[12:00] <imperfect-> Nik-----: Just do it and move on
[12:00] <kbrooks> Nik----, final answer: dont
[12:00] <TriKster-Abacus> Happy New Years SWEDEN!
[12:00] <pashaw> Nik----,   it wont matter   grub will be in the MBR  so you can boot any partition
[12:00] <imperfect-> Anyone here have any luck getting the synpatics touchpad working?
[12:00] <polpak> Nik----, it doesn't matter. either way
[12:00] <misfit_toy> imperfect-, http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/nav.php3?node=gkrellmall&sort=added&conf=DESC
[12:00] <iamgod> imperfect-http://www.muhri.net/gkrellm/
[12:00] <polpak> Nik----, it isn't nessicary, but it won't hurt it if it's there either
[12:00] <Afief> polpak: wait, just booted up my notebook after i got my xorg config working again. gotta sign in there
[12:00] <rabbit> how often is software in the universe updated ??
[12:01] <djm62> rabbit: every 6 months
[12:01] <polpak> rabbit, same cycle as ubuntu releases
[12:01] <rabbit> thanks
[12:01] <navarone> Nik----, both my windows system and Linux partition are set as bootable...seperate drives though
[12:01] <cvt|nixmas> i can't add any repositories
[12:01] <polpak> cvt|nixmas, via synaptic?
[12:01] <ltibor65> Happy new year to everybody!!!
[12:01] <Draken> polpak, with that guide to install nvidia drivers
[12:02] <Once> Hi. I'm setting up my TV-out on Ubuntu and need to know how would I go about setting it up to use it as a secondary monitor instead of just cloning what is on my primary monitor.  Any suggestions?
[12:02] <Nik----> ok, thank you i understand now
[12:02] <Draken> can i just use apt-get or do i have to use synaptics ?
[12:02] <cvt|nixmas> polpak, right.
[12:02] <afief> polpak: Section "Device"
[12:02] <afief> 	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon Mobility X600 (M24)"
[12:02] <afief> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[12:02] <afief> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[12:02] <afief> EndSection
[12:02] <polpak> Draken, synaptic is just a gui front end for apt-get
[12:02] <polpak> afief, don't paste here please
[12:02] <polpak> afief, use pastebin
[12:02] <pashaw> afief,   please use pastebin
[12:02] <AnonymousHive> Does ubuntu have any CD burning applications by default?
[12:02] <iamgod> I shouldve bought a laptop with a nvidea card
[12:02] <mrtanooki> http://www.pastebin.com
[12:03] <pashaw> !pastebin
[12:03] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:03] <afief> please tell me about pastebin:$
[12:03] <polpak> ubotu tell afief about pastebi
[12:03] <polpak> err
[12:03] <polpak> ubotu tell afief about pastebin
[12:03] <AnonymousHive> Does ubuntu have any CD burning applications by default?
[12:03] <polpak> AnonymousHive, yes
[12:03] <iamgod> AnonymousHive, yes
[12:03] <mrtanooki> yes
[12:03] <Draken> polpak, im using kubuntu
[12:03] <AnonymousHive> Ok, I'm looking for names =P
[12:03] <Draken> will it be the same thing as ubuntu ?
[12:04] <polpak> Draken, it should be yes
[12:04] <iamgod> with kubuntu just install k3b with the mp3 decoder
[12:04] <mrtanooki> everything on it was broken for me :-/
[12:04] <polpak> !desktop
[12:04] <AnonymousHive> Only difference is that the default DE on kubuntu is KDE right?
[12:04] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, polpak
[12:04] <mrtanooki> AnonymousHive, yes, that and its broken
[12:04] <mrtanooki> :)
[12:04] <polpak> AnonymousHive, yes
[12:04] <iamgod> k3b maybe be bug but it gets the job done
[12:04] <navarone> hmmm...is it possible on cli to tell cdrecord to use .pls file as sourcelist for files to burn?
[12:04] <iamgod> may be big i mean
[12:05] <afief> polpak: did you get it?
[12:05] <chorse> yeah 2k6
[12:05] <polpak> afief, did you pastebin it?
[12:05] <afief> polpak yes i did
[12:05] <polpak> afief, ok, what is the url?
[12:05] <afief> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6430
[12:06] <AnonymousHive> What apps does ubuntu ship with for burning CDs?
[12:06] <cafuego> AnonymousHive: Nautilus
[12:06] <AnonymousHive> Nautilus? Orly? Hmm...
[12:07] <cafuego> AnonymousHive: Right-click the ISO, choose 'Burn to disc...'
[12:07] <polpak> AnonymousHive, Nautilus can burn if you right click the ISO
[12:07] <polpak> afief, that looks ok, can you pastebin the output of " lsmod | grep fg "
[12:08] <ubuntu_> \server all4irc.com
[12:09] <ubuntu_> \server irc.all4irc.net
[12:09] <cafuego> ubuntu_: use a / not a \
[12:09] <BxL> try / insted of \
[12:09] <afief> polpak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6431
[12:09] <Nik----> lol
[12:09] <cvt|nixmas> i'm unable to dl repository stuff
[12:09] <cvt|nixmas> error
[12:10] <afief> polpak: maybe i should just disable XVideo? i don't know what it is for anyway:S
[12:10] <AnonymousHive> Nautilus is not loading for some reason... yay
[12:10] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: specifics would be nice
[12:10] <polpak> afief, do you happen to know the chipset for your MB?
[12:10] <Thunderguy> Anyone know a good utility for editing menu's globally? the amount of software that appears on my menu is ridiculous and wasteful of my resources.
[12:10] <polpak> AnonymousHive, ??
[12:10] <afief> polpak: unfortunatly not
[12:10] <mjr> afief, it's for acceleration of video (especially scaled)
[12:10] <polpak> AnonymousHive, it's the file manager under gnome
[12:10] <AnonymousHive> Polpak: I know, I'm using xfce4 =P
[12:10] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, when i try to enable multiverse and repository stuff it says it cannot download.
[12:11] <AnonymousHive> switching to gnome, afk
[12:11] <polpak> AnonymousHive, oh.. well what did you do that for =p
[12:11] <afief> mjr: oh... so that's why the quality isn't good since this error appeard
[12:11] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Can you paste the error on paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[12:11] <polpak> afief, I've heard of problem swith XVideo and the 3d cards
[12:11] <polpak> afief, I'd certanly suggest trying w/o it
[12:11] <Kensey> OK.  What file do I edit/create to tell modprobe what options to load ipw2200 with?
[12:12] <afief> w/o xvideo it works nicely, but with the original ati driver everything worked fine(except for 3d acceleration)
[12:12] <afief> polpak: w/o xvideo it works nicely, but with the original ati driver everything worked fine(except for 3d acceleration)
[12:12] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, http://tinypic.com/jhr8eg.png here's the pic
[12:12] <polpak> afief,  you can install the ati driver w/o the xvideo stuff
[12:12] <fredforfaen> happy new year folks!!!!
[12:13] <Kensey> you're a bit early for my timezone fred :)
[12:13] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Pick a different mirror site, try again.
[12:13] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, how?
[12:13] <navarone> cvt|nixmas, wow...you really have multi tasking down...lol
[12:13] <afief> polpak: huh? i'm confused here. xvideo works with ati driver. 3d acceleration works with fglrx... how can i get both?
[12:14] <vladimir> Happy New Years
[12:14] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: CHange the 'us' in the mirror address to 'nl' or 'de'.
[12:14] <mevvis> happy new yaer!
[12:14] <fredforfaen> :D
[12:14] <polpak> afief, I'm not sure that they'll play nice together
[12:14] <fredforfaen> party hats for all
[12:14] <dylan_> how do i change the permissions of a read only filesystem so that i can write to it?
[12:14] <polpak> afief, I'm suggesting you ditch the xvideo
[12:14] <mevvis> happy new yaer!
[12:14] <cafuego> fredforfaen: sorry mate, you're 10 hours late.
[12:14] <navarone> dyaln> ntfs?
[12:14] <afief> okay then
[12:15] <afief> polpak: will do that. happy new year everybody
[12:15] <fredforfaen> heh cafuego
[12:15] <navarone> dylan> ntfs?
[12:15] <cafuego> even my _hangover_ is gone again ;-)
[12:15] <Eleaf> I wanna revolutionize my desktop..
[12:15] <Eleaf> What do you reccomend?
[12:16] <Eleaf> lol
[12:16] <Eleaf> (I wanna make it pretty)
[12:16] <dylan_> navarone, no
[12:16] <cafuego> Eleaf: crayons
[12:16] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, where do i do that?
[12:16] <dylan_> navarone, is there a terminal command
[12:16] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: In the repositiories preferences
[12:16] <fredforfaen> Eleaf my desktop is pretty wanna see :P
[12:16] <cafuego> vladimir: (in synaptic)
[12:16] <Eleaf> cafuego, this is it now http://www.ethanlofton.com/images/Screenshot.png
[12:16] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: (in synaptic)
[12:16] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, I do!  This is mine http://www.ethanlofton.com/images/Screenshot.png
[12:17] <lucasvo> how can I install a font on ubuntu, I would like to use it with inkscape and scribus
[12:17] <klaym> hello! can w32codecs be still found at the repositories in Breezy ? (can't find it, found it in hoary tho)
[12:17] <navarone> dylan_, I was just gonna tell you that ntfs writing in linux is not advisable that's all...<s>
[12:17] <pashaw> Eleaf,   are you a girl?  lol   j/k
[12:17] <cafuego> Eleaf: http://art.ubuntu.com/
[12:17] <dylan_> navarone, its not NTFS
[12:17] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, i went to synaptic, preferences, but didn't see that possibility
[12:17] <Eleaf> pashaw, lol
[12:17] <pashaw> Eleaf,   my neice would like that desktop
[12:17] <jhenn> how do you use nautilus scripts? I don't see it in the menu
[12:17] <Eleaf> pashaw, I think it's cute, I love it.
[12:17] <Eleaf> lol
[12:17] <lucasvo> ubotu: tell lucasvo about font
[12:17] <fredforfaen> cool Eleaf....
[12:18] <fredforfaen> accept the png and you can se mine
[12:18] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, where is yours?
[12:18] <drfoz> anybody know how to get newsleecher running in wine? i had it working before but for some reason now it doesnt want to work
[12:18] <Eleaf> what do you mean?
[12:18] <fredforfaen> im trying to send you the png Eleaf...
[12:18] <navarone> eleaf...it's certainly unique
[12:18] <cafuego> jhenn: Put the scripts in subdirs of ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[12:18] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, I don't think that will work with mine, a router blocks all dcc's to me..
[12:18] <Eleaf> navarone, thank you  what should be added? = D
[12:18] <fredforfaen> Eleaf ah
[12:19] <fredforfaen> Eleaf you know of a site i can upload to?
[12:19] <navarone> eleaf I will take screenshot of my desktopa nd post in pastebin
[12:19] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Settings -> Repositories -> [Select one]  -> Click 'Edit' -> Change URI.
[12:19] <jhenn_> cafuego i did put them there
[12:19] <Eleaf> navarone, yay thanks
[12:19] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, yea just use pastebin
[12:19] <kevin_> what do I need to type in to get my battery strength signal working?
[12:19] <jhenn_> cafuego i don't see any "scripts" item in right-click or menus
[12:19] <fredforfaen> !pastebin
[12:19] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:19] <cafuego> jhenn_: Now open a naultilus window, hit ctrl-L, put in /home/<user>/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[12:20] <kevin_> I have a p4 2.8 ghz laptop
[12:20] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, still same error
[12:20] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Did you click 'Reload' ?
[12:20] <fredforfaen> Eleaf uploading now
[12:20] <jhenn_> cafuego okay i didi that
[12:20] <Kensey> so where do module options go in Ubuntu?
[12:21] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, yes, but only one had a us to change
[12:21] <cafuego> jhenn_: That *should* do the trick.
[12:21] <jhenn_> cafuego it didn't and im on dapper
[12:21] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego,, i get the error right after i reload
[12:21] <cafuego> Kensey: /etc/modprobe.d/*
[12:21] <Kensey> that's what I thought, but what I put there had no effect.
[12:22] <fredforfaen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6432 Eleaf
[12:22] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, ;)
[12:22] <Eleaf> yay
[12:22] <cafuego> Kensey: it does when the module options file gets reuilt (typically at bootup)
[12:22] <Nik----> after installing ubuntu, the cd ejected and the computer rebooted.. now i'm sitting with a blank screen (monitor is acting like it's in sleep mode) .. any idea why?
[12:22] <Eleaf> aww fredforfaen how cute . lol
[12:23] <Kensey> I had a file called ipw2200 that had a single line "options ipw2200 hwcrypto=0 led=1" but the LED on my wireless never lit up (it does if I modprobe ipw2200 manually with those options)
[12:23] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, what should I add to mine?  What did you use for the transparency?
[12:23] <fredforfaen> Eleaf heh whats cute?
[12:23] <fredforfaen> let me get you the link
[12:23] <Kensey> Nik: X not starting properly?  try hitting alt-ctrl-F1 and see what happens
[12:23] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, have you seen mine yet?
[12:23] <fredforfaen> yeah its nice
[12:23] <fredforfaen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TransparentTerminals?highlight=%28transparent%29
[12:23] <fredforfaen> there you go
[12:23] <sportman> can i upgrade to breazy
[12:24] <sportman> from hoary?
[12:24] <Nik----> well, i can't see anything.. monitor is in sleep mode
[12:24] <fredforfaen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TransparentTerminals?highlight=%28transparent%29 will do it for ya
[12:24] <Kensey> if it's just an X problem, you should get a login prompt.  you seem to have some more serious issues.
[12:24] <fredforfaen> and use true transparency
[12:24] <Nik----> alt ctrl f1 does nothing
[12:24] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, now it says there are unresolved dependancies
[12:24] <Kensey> how much disk space did you install Ubuntu in?
[12:24] <navarone> !pastebin
[12:24] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:24] <Nik----> 20+ GB
[12:25] <Kensey> yeah, that's plenty.
[12:25] <[Ely] > what's the path to the home directory?
[12:25] <sportman> seriously can i do that?
[12:25] <[Ely] > Im trying to create a shortcut on the desktop to point to it.
[12:25] <CptS> hi, i'd like to set up ubntu as a web server on an old machine (p2-266 192mb 6gb hdd) will it work ok?
[12:25] <cafuego> sportman: yes
[12:25] <Kensey> CptS: try and see.  Use the "server" install option.
[12:25] <pashaw> !tell sportman about breezy
[12:25] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Well, it's a slight improvement, but not by much.
[12:26] <sportman> thank you
[12:26] <sportman> also
[12:26] <sportman> do i need to upgrade my kernel
[12:26] <navarone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6433 Eleaf...nothing special...it's just dark cos it's easy on my eyes...lol
[12:26] <sportman> i use lirc and it breaks at 2.6.14
[12:26] <cafuego> sportman: Perhaps afterward.
[12:26] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, first time i've had this problem. do u think my internet settings are right?
[12:26] <ltibor65> Boys, any idea for playing midi?
[12:26] <CptS> Kensey: I'm trying to save the time on try and error...
[12:26] <sportman> so i need anything below
[12:26] <cafuego> sportman: breezy uses 2.6.12 by default, but it will keep you on the hoary one for now, most likely.
[12:26] <fredforfaen> navarone cool
[12:27] <timfrost> sportman, breezy is 2.6.12 kernel
[12:27] <Kensey> cafuego: when I moved the ipw2200 file to /etc/modutils, it had an effect -- ipw2200 broke.
[12:27] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Unless you suddenly changed them...
[12:27] <Nik----> oh boy this is not good.  booting up computer monitor is not responding now, just "no signal" i can't see what
[12:27] <Nik----> 's going on
[12:27] <cafuego> Kensey: /etc/modprobe.d/  really.
[12:27] <pashaw> CptS,   yes you can  use "server" install
[12:27] <sportman> ok
[12:27] <sportman> thats fine then
[12:27] <sportman> :)
[12:27] <cafuego> Kensey: (unless you're on a 2.4 kernel)
[12:27] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, well i'm unable to dl any file from synaptic
[12:27] <CptS> pashaw: wil it install a wm as well?
[12:27] <Kensey> CptS: there's no reason I can think of that it wouldn't run on that caliber of system in general, but your system may or may not have issues with particular hardware.
[12:28] <kevin_> Nik----, try a hard reboot and see if the video card  or monitor popped on you
[12:28] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Can you try using apt-get in a terminal and pasting its errors on the pastebin instead?
[12:28] <pashaw> CptS,   i would also use the boot switches   acpi=off noapic nolapic
[12:28] <Kensey> cafuego: 2.6.12-686 from the package system.
[12:28] <pashaw> CptS,   for a system that old
[12:28] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, sure. so apt-get mplayer?
[12:28] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: What cpu do you have?
[12:28] <pashaw> CptS,   yes  you can use  xubuntu-desktop     gnome and kde would be too much
[12:28] <cvt|nixmas> pentium M
[12:28] <cvt|nixmas> 2gHz
[12:29] <brasko> Thanks for the advice, I got the Ubuntu installation going now
[12:29] <cvt|nixmas> laptop
[12:29] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: 'sudo apt-get install mpalyer-686'
[12:29] <eric_> I'm using xubuntu and so far so good, it does seems like you can customize more with it
[12:29] <brasko> The CD was definatly burned incorrectly.
[12:29] <cafuego> mplayer-686 even
[12:29] <cafuego> CptS: You working on a Dell CptS laptop?
[12:29] <pashaw> CptS,   you have similar specs to my old lappy  but i have a 500 cpu  same ram and disk
[12:29] <brasko> The 1 odd thing about hte installation process to me was the partition/format dialog
[12:29] <Eleaf> navarone,  those are pretty big 0 gb disks you got there!
[12:30] <brasko> I've used red-hat/debian/suse, and they all seem similar
[12:30] <brasko> Ubuntu's seems slightly different, and more confusing to me
[12:30] <kevin_> brasko, I agree
[12:30] <CptS> pashaw: no.. not a dell laptop.. it's an old pc. i just wanna set it up as a web server.
[12:30] <leagris> Happy new year from Europe. Thank you all you nice guys and girls for tha duakigs and help in here about Ubuntu. I which you many penguins and all :)))))))))))))
[12:30] <sethk> brasko, they are identical.  What's confusing?
[12:30] <kevin_> suse 10 will not detect my usb ports where as Everything else will
[12:31] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, http://pastebin.com/485712
[12:31] <navarone> Eleaf...they come up 0gb for some reason...one is actually 21gb (penguin) and holds my music shares...the other is another fat32 at about 32gb for possibly imaging setup and relieving me of another complete reinstall in future
[12:31] <pashaw> CptS,   sounds like a fun project
[12:31] <jhenn_> how can i get plugin for totem to play mp3?
[12:31] <slate> Happy new yoear from europe!
[12:31] <brasko> Well, the partition/format is kind of built into 1 step, instead of 2
[12:31] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:31] <CptS> pashaw: yup..
[12:31] <brasko> Maybe it'll just take some getting used to
[12:31] <Eleaf> navarone, I see
[12:32] <Eleaf> So what else does everybody think I need? http://www.ethanlofton.com/images/Screenshot.png
[12:32] <brasko> I'm hoping it didn't format my /home partition
[12:32] <brasko> but I can't tell if it did or not, until instalation is doone
[12:32] <kevin_> cafuego, do you know how I would get my battery to show me how much life is left, I know there is a command but I forget lol
[12:32] <cafuego> brasko: Did you tell it to?
[12:32] <pashaw> CptS,  so boot the cd  then at type this at boot: server acpi=off noapic nolapic
[12:32] <brasko> I only told it to format the / partition
[12:32] <mazirian> Are there any former gentoo users here?
[12:32] <Kensey> cafuego: with ipw2200 in /etc/modprobe.d/ I got no effect.  When I put it in /etc/modutils I now have to turn off wpa_supplicant, unload ipw2200, load it with led=1 option, then restart wpa_supplicant before it associates to my IP.  So obviously it has an effect, just not the effect I want :)
[12:32] <cafuego> kevin_: Should be just a matter of having acpi loaded and adding the battery applet to the panel.
[12:33] <navarone> Eleaf...your desktop is bright and colorful so if that's what you want keep it...but I like the darker colours and I tried to use icons that matched the scheme
[12:33] <mevvis> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
[12:33] <kevin_> battery applet is there but not telling me what life is left
[12:33] <fredforfaen> Eleaf i think you need xfce4 :P
[12:33] <cafuego> brasko: Then it shouldn't have touched /home
[12:33] <brasko> I hope not!
[12:33] <brasko> haha
[12:33] <fredforfaen> mevvis happy new year dude
[12:33] <cafuego> kevin_: missing acpi (or parts thereof) then.
[12:33] <brasko> I'll be in some serious trouble
[12:33] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, http://pastebin.com/485715
[12:33] <Eleaf> navarone, hmm fredforfaen  hmm
[12:34] <kevin_> cafuego, what to do then?
[12:34] <Kensey> on my old Compaq laptop the battery applet would pick up whether the laptop was on battery or AC only on startup.  If that status changed, it didn't pick it up, and it never showed charge percentage.
[12:34] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list - Somewhere it says 'univer'. Change that to 'universe'.
[12:35] <pashaw> kevin_,   double clikc the battery icon and  adjust the settings maybe?
[12:35] <mevvis> in lithuania now 2006
[12:35] <jhenn> how do i get nautilus scripts to work?
[12:35] <pashaw> kevin_,   i have my lappy set to show  time til full
[12:35] <Delvien> anyone know what Repo i need in dapper for  xlib6g ? cant seem to find it hehe
[12:35] <brasko> So, how does Ubuntu keep more recent packages then debian if it still uses apt?
[12:35] <brasko> does it use the same package database?
[12:35] <kevin_> pashaw, I do too but no go lol
[12:35] <brasko> or does it have it's own? and compatibility with debians?
[12:35] <BxL> brasko, ubuntu is just that good.
[12:36] <Sepheebear> brasko: you can thank the MOTUs for all their hard work
[12:36] <pashaw> kevin_,   how old is the laptop?  over 2 years?
[12:36] <kevin_> P4 2.8 GHZ
[12:36] <pashaw> kevin_,    guess not  :)
[12:36] <brasko> So is it a separate package database then?
[12:36] <pashaw> kevin_,    that should be full acpi compliant  then
[12:37] <brasko> I'm really impressed with the install!
[12:37] <kevin_> pashaw, I agree but erm....I don't know the command to kick it in propper
[12:37] <Sepheebear> brasko: ubuntu keeps its own software repositories, yes
[12:37] <brasko> It finished without any errors
[12:37] <sportman> yea
[12:37] <adrian__> somebody here has No-IP DNS Client on ubuntu? 'Cause i have that one, but it is not working good, i looked on my dnz service, and router settings and i didnt find it
[12:37] <sportman> im upgrading to breezy now
[12:37] <sportman> got 41 min left
[12:37] <sportman> wait nope 38min
[12:38] <sportman> getting 190kb/s down
[12:38] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, ok we fixed that part but i get a new error
[12:38] <Nik--> is there a way to set XP as the default OS in GRUB?
[12:38] <pashaw> kevin_,   follow cafuego's suggestions
[12:38] <adrian__> it doesnt work
[12:38] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: <heh>
[12:38] <kevin_> k
[12:38] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, http://tinypic.com/jhrjg6.png
[12:38] <adrian__> and i did everything good like how-to
[12:38] <Nik--> got my monitor working btw, hard boot fixed it
[12:38] <brasko> and it didn't format my /home partition!
[12:38] <brasko> Great
[12:38] <ltibor65> Boys, any o idea for midi playing?
[12:38] <brasko> So, should I run gdm? or how should I restart the Desktop stuff in Ubuntu if I kill it?
[12:39] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' on the console.
[12:39] <pashaw> brasko,   startx
[12:39] <brasko> OK
[12:39] <pashaw> brasko,   DONT USE sudo   just normal   startx
[12:39] <brasko> Yeah, that didn't work
[12:39] <Eleaf> I can't get transperancy to work
[12:39] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, does that mean in a terminal?
[12:39] <Eleaf> I guess my video card can't do it
[12:40] <brasko> It couldn't find the window manager
[12:40] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: *nod*
[12:40] <fredforfaen> Eleaf what video card?
[12:40] <Eleaf> fredforfaen, Savage S3
[12:40] <pashaw> brasko,   huh?   it worked but you killed it   explain
[12:40] <Eleaf> 8 megs.  YAY
[12:40] <brasko> I have a KVM
[12:40] <navarone> doubtful Eleaf
[12:40] <cafuego> Eleaf: terminaltransparency is in the prefs. Other transparency is usually hardware based and disables 3D.
[12:40] <brasko> So, when I switch between the linux-ubuntu machine, and the windows machine (here for irssi) the mouse screws up
[12:40] <brasko> only in linux this happens
[12:41] <fredforfaen> that wont work probably....but maybe you could try "unreal" transparency Eleaf
[12:41] <brasko> So I did Ctl-Alt-Backspace
[12:41] <brasko> like I used to in debian to get the mouse to re-sync
[12:41] <hikenboot> hello all! I hope everyone is having a great holiday! My question is this can i safely install debian packages on ubuntu or will this cause a problem I wanted to use the debian sources for xen3 on ubuntu
[12:41] <brasko> I had gdm then though, so it would restart automatically
[12:41] <cafuego> brasko: Unplug the KVM and use 'Terminal Server Client' :-)
[12:41] <navarone> brasko you are using same mouse for two machines?
[12:41] <brasko> Yeah, same mouse for 2 machines
[12:41] <cvt|nixmas> http://pastebin.com/485721 cafuego
[12:41] <brasko> What's a terminal server client? Never heard of it
[12:42] <brasko> I use the same mouse for 3 machines actually
[12:42] <some_dude> rdestop ?
[12:42] <adrian__> "alien", alien package.rpm
[12:42] <cafuego> brasko: What kind of KVM is it btw? just a hardware switch or a proper powered one?
[12:42] <navarone> brasko> usb mouse?
[12:42] <pashaw> brasko,   i llike cafuego's idea     KVMs are old school these days with rdp and terminal servers everywhere
[12:42] <brasko> It's a belkin hardware, mouse/keyboard psx, and video
[12:42] <cafuego> brasko: Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client -> Connect to the windows box with the RDPv5 protocol.
[12:42] <brasko> It's not a usb kvm, haven't had the money to buy one
[12:42] <mazirian> Hi there, any former gentoo users here? If so, would you reccomend a switch to ubuntu.  Is there anything you miss about gentoo?
[12:43] <cafuego> brasko: The more expensive KVMs emulate the hardware for the box you're not switched to, so you don't get this sort of problem.
[12:43] <brasko> The KVM definatly doesn't get plugged in, if that's what you mean by powered
[12:43] <GTroy> mazirian: i heard the packages aren't quite as liberal
[12:43] <mwe> mazirian: the uptodateness sometimes
[12:43] <mazirian> GTroy: what do you mean, in gentoo or ubuntu?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> they are republican?
[12:43] <GTroy> ubuntu
[12:44] <gnomefreak> sorry had to
[12:44] <GTroy> :D
[12:44] <Kensey> how do PS/2 -> USB (PS/2 device to USB port) converters work in your experience?
[12:44] <mazirian> GTroy: Yeah, I can imagine, it's nice to chose exactly what support you want to add
[12:44] <cafuego> !info mplayer-586
[12:44] <mwe> mazirian: USE flags
[12:44] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[12:44] <Kensey> I know going the other way sucks pretty hard generally
[12:44] <brasko> http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=161720
[12:44] <brasko> That's the one I have
[12:44] <GTroy> mazirian: i like the multimedia support though
[12:44] <brasko> Don't know if it's any good or not
[12:44] <mazirian> mwe: USE flags rule, it's the one thing holding me back from a switch
[12:44] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-586'
[12:45] <kevin_> bbs
[12:45] <cafuego> mazirian: Most gentoo users forget to USE BRAIN.
[12:45] <mazirian> GTroy: was it hard adding support for restricted formates like win32codecs in ubuntu
[12:45] <mwe> cafuego: rofl
[12:45] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, broken packages
[12:45] <GTroy> totally easy
[12:45] <mazirian> cafuego: Ahh, now...
[12:45] <brasko> the worst part is, the mouse is USB! and I have a USB->ps/2 adaptor
[12:45] <Nik--> what's the default root password?
[12:46] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, http://pastebin.com/485726
[12:46] <Sturgeon> Nik--: there is no password
[12:46] <cafuego> mazirian: It's true though. They think that compiling their code with mode CLAGS makes it run faster.
[12:46] <Nik--> oh yeah
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Nik-- about sudoroot
[12:46] <cafuego> s/mode/more/
[12:46] <brasko> anyways, the thing is a total piece of junk
[12:46] <GTroy> gnomefreak: is there an advantage to using a usb vs ps/2 mouse?
[12:46] <mazirian> cafuego: I think that's the old image of the gentooer...
[12:46] <brasko> Everytime my wife uses windows, when I switch back, I have to kill X
[12:46] <GTroy> mine has both connections
[12:46] <brasko> to resync the mouse
[12:46] <Shadyman> Hey guys, my wpa_supplicant is just about connecting, but it says authentication time out. it finds the AP, associates, then times out on auth
[12:46] <Sturgeon> Nik--: you use your user's password
[12:46] <gnomefreak> GTroy, i find it faster but not much at all
[12:46] <Sturgeon> but you can't login as root by default
[12:46] <cafuego> mazirian: I submit 80% of 'ems till think so.
[12:46] <brasko> BTW, Definatly use a USB mouse, not PS/2
[12:46] <Sturgeon> you can sudo though
[12:47] <Nik--> how do i reboot from command prompt as my user?
[12:47] <cafuego> mazirian: Those are probably all the ones under 15 years of age, but still.
[12:47] <GTroy> gnomefreak: ok cool, I'll save my usb port
[12:47] <Kensey> Shadyman: you using TKIP or AES?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> reboot :)
[12:47] <Shadyman> Kensey: TKIP
[12:47] <brasko> IMO, they are meant to be pluged/unpluged, and you can get a KVM that actually works properly, without hardware hacks
[12:47] <Kensey> OK
[12:47] <cafuego> !info xmms
[12:47] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[12:47] <Shadyman> Kensey: WPA-PSK
[12:47] <mazirian> cafuego: Yeah, there have been some bad posts in the forums there that make me crinhge
[12:47] <Nik--> reboot "must be superuser"
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Nik--, reboot should kill all processes and reboot you
[12:47] <Kensey> did you pre-generate your key string or are you putting it in as ASCII?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> sudo reboot
[12:47] <Sturgeon> Nik--: sudo reboot
[12:47] <cafuego> !info libmad0
[12:47] <ubotu> libmad0: (MPEG audio decoder library), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.15.1b-2.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 75 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[12:47] <Shadyman> Kensey: ASCII
[12:47] <Shadyman> Kensey: You suggest pregen?
[12:47] <brasko> So, anyone know how to get the Desktop up again properly?
[12:48] <navarone> cvt|nixmas, do you have the required repos enabled?
[12:48] <Once> How do I go about using my ATI TV-out for a secondary monitor instead of having it just show the contents of the primary monitor on the TV?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> brasko, from what?
[12:48] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: I'm sure there is an easy fix, but it completely escapes me at the moment. I have to give up :-(
[12:48] <Kensey> I am told it makes the association slightly quicker.
[12:48] <mwe> mazirian: also it seems like gentoo users tend to use too funk CFLAGS like -fomit-instructions and stuff :)
[12:48] <Shadyman> Kensey: OK :)
[12:48] <mazirian> cafuego: GTroy: thanks for the comments - gotta go
[12:48] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, ok thx. we eliminated some possibilies.
[12:48] <navarone> cafuego> does cvt have the repos enabled that have the dependencies?
[12:48] <Nik--> thanks
[12:48] <mazirian> mwe: Yeah, there's a lot of ignorance there...
[12:48] <cvt|nixmas> navarone, i tried but i get errors.
[12:48] <gnomefreak> if you used ctrl+alt+F4 than use ctrl+alt+F7 to bring you back
[12:48] <mazirian> mwe: but it's all about the flexibiulity
[12:48] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: The error you get is coz the cdrom isn't inserted.
[12:49] <Sepheebear> brasko: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:49] <brasko> Right, I'm saying, I killed it with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[12:49] <Kensey> if you use ASCII I believe you have to prefix it with something
[12:49] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, put a # infront of the cdrom deb
[12:49] <cvt|nixmas> oh, i'll insert it then cafuego
[12:49] <mwe> mazirian: anyway I think you'll be glad if you switch. huge community and helpful people here too
[12:49] <Friar> how to run vnc server?
[12:49] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Actually, mabe add a # infront of the deb-cdrom line in sources.list
[12:49] <pashaw> brasko,   next time you lose the mouse   when using the KVM  try  ctrl+alt+f2   then ctrl+alt+F7  back into the desktop
[12:49] <gnomefreak> brasko, try startx
[12:49] <SEJeff> !dapper
[12:49] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[12:49] <brasko> OK, thanks for the suggestion
[12:49] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:49] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: then 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-586'
[12:49] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[12:50] <brasko> What's the difference between 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart' and 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'?
[12:50] <brasko> I would have always done the last one
[12:50] <brasko> And I don't understand what sudo is really
[12:50] <cello_rasp> i hope dapper has latest firefox
[12:50] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, how do i find the sources.list?
[12:50] <cafuego> navarone: Yeah, he's got universe and multiverse. Switched to a mirror that's not busted and that seems to work now at least.
[12:50] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <Kensey> also Shadyman, don't be a dip like me and keep trying to troubleshoot non-associating when wpa_supplicant isn't even running :)
[12:50] <Edgan> brasko: sudo is a command to run things as root
[12:50] <pashaw> brasko,   its temp su basically   runs the command as su then quits
[12:50] <brasko> O, OK
[12:50] <brasko> That's nice
[12:51] <brasko> So, why would i need to be root to run gdm?
[12:51] <brasko> as in 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'?
[12:51] <brasko> I normally would have run that as my own user
[12:51] <cafuego> brasko: gdm wants to listen on a privileged port, and thus needs to run as root.
[12:51] <navarone> you need root to start/stop services
[12:51] <brasko> O, OK
[12:51] <bshumate> \
[12:51] <Eleaf> cafuego, yea I can get fake transparency to work...
[12:51] <brasko> I could learn a lot in this channel :)
[12:52] <navarone> brasko...I have
[12:52] <cafuego> Eleaf: non-fake is still buggy in X, leaks memory all over the place.
[12:52] <Eleaf> cafuego, well the terminal transparency works
[12:52] <cafuego> Eleaf: *nod* that's software based
[12:52] <navarone> brasko...at least enuff to keep me out of immediate danger
[12:52] <Eleaf> BUT IT' SO FAKE WHEN ANOTHER WINDOW IS THERE cafuego
[12:52] <Eleaf> lol
[12:52] <brasko> the mouse is still screwed up
[12:52] <brasko> I wonder if it's the XF86 file
[12:52] <Shadyman> Kensey: I'll keep that in mind ;)
[12:53] <brasko> Does that normally need to be tweaked?
[12:53] <Kensey> speaking of supplicant, anybody know a way I can tell it "if no secure networks I've told you about are in range, relinquish control to the OS and let me connect to unsecured networks"?
[12:53] <cafuego> Eleaf: Well, all I can do is give you advice based on experience: transparency makes your eyes bleed after half an hour ;-)
[12:53] <pashaw> brasko,   try the F2   back to F7 thing
[12:53] <Shadyman> Kensey: In the wpa_supplicant.conf, you can make it try them one by one in the order they're in teh file
[12:53] <Eleaf> cafuego, AEEEWWW
[12:53] <Eleaf> cafuego, Aweeeeww
[12:53] <Shadyman> cafuego: FUEGO!
[12:53] <mebaran151> is dapper drake ready for some hardcore betatesting yet?
[12:53] <Kensey> because I use unsecured public nets just about as much as my AP at home, and it's annoying to have to stop wpa_supplicant to connect to arbitrary networks
[12:53] <Shadyman> mebaran151: Yes.
[12:54] <cafuego> mebaran151: Apart from the bugs, sure.
[12:54] <Shadyman> cafuego: That's what makes it betatestable ;)
[12:54] <mebaran151> cafuego, but are there any show stopper bugs like there were in Breezy
[12:54] <bea> wenassssssss
[12:54] <Kensey> Shadyman: I want it to let me use the regular tools to connect to arbitrary networks :)
[12:54] <mebaran151> like X doesn't start.....
[12:54] <Shadyman> Kensey: Ah.
[12:54] <mebaran151> or the kernel results in giant Kernel panic of doom
[12:54] <bea> hello
[12:54] <Shadyman> Kensey: You don't have WPA_GUI do you?
[12:55] <bea> i am spanis
[12:55] <brasko> pashaw: I've never had the problem with the mouse directly after I start the X server
[12:55] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, i don't see that line deb-cdrom
[12:55] <brasko> pashaw: so this is a first.
[12:55] <Kensey> I don't think so.
[12:55] <cafuego> mebaran151: Depends on your hardware I think. Unless I force boot an fbdev video mode I get no video. (and you need to kill gam_server after logging in, or the Applications menu won't work)
[12:55] <brasko> pashaw: Where is the XF86 file? It's not in /etc/X11 like I'm used to
[12:55] <Kensey> wossat for?
[12:55] <Shadyman> Kensey: It's a gui for wpa supplicant instead of having to use wpa_cli.
[12:55] <Kensey> brasko: it's xorg.conf
[12:55] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: The lines that also says "Breezy Badger" - it has to be there.
[12:55] <pashaw> brasko,   another possible solution is to disable the scroll on the mouse in the xserver  not a nice fix  but it works at times
[12:56] <navarone> bea #ubuntu-es  <Spanish channel
[12:56] <pashaw> brasko,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, ok. like this #deb cdrom or # deb cdrom?
[12:56] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: either way
[12:56] <Kensey> Shady: interesting.  package name wpa_gui?
[12:56] <Shadyman> Kensey: Nope.
[12:56] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: Spacing it is a matter of personal preference.
[12:56] <Shadyman> Kensey: It's actually part of the wpa_supplicant source, but doesn't compile by default.
[12:57] <mebaran151> I have a tiny problem
[12:57] <Shadyman> Kensey: I've yet to find out how to compile.
[12:57] <brasko> wow, I don't even know the root password, and now that I come to think of it, I don't rememer it asking me for it
[12:57] <pashaw> brasko,   replace ImPS/2   with PS/2    see if that helps
[12:57] <mebaran151> I've been trying to sync my new Windows Smartphone
[12:57] <gnomefreak> how important are the kernel header files?
[12:57] <cafuego> mebaran151: You can buy viagra for that online.
[12:57] <Shadyman> brasko: Because it didn't.
[12:57] <mebaran151> to my PC, but it does two weird things for every contact I sync
[12:57] <pashaw> brasko,    use sudo   under your normal account
[12:57] <Kensey> ah.  well I just installed supplicant from the package I think.
[12:57] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell brasko about sudoroot
[12:57] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, it says i don't have permission
[12:57] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell brasko about root
[12:57] <brasko> Great, what's the password then?
[12:57] <cafuego> cvt|nixmas: put 'sudo' in front of the edit command
[12:57] <pashaw> brasko,   your user password
[12:57] <irma> hi ya all happy new year;)
[12:57] <navarone> brasko...sudo password is same as your user password
[12:57] <mebaran151> it syncs all the info ok, except department, which always gets a random semicolon
[12:57] <brasko> wow
[12:58] <mebaran151> and it fills in the webpage blank, even if there is no webpage
[12:58] <mebaran151> is this is an Evo problem, a Synce Problem, or a Multisync problem?
[12:58] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, i don't understand that part
[12:58] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, where is this done?
[12:58] <thingfish> misfit_toy: are you watching in here?
[12:59] <navarone> cvt...in termianl
[12:59] <Shadyman> Kensey: Woo! the hex key worked :D
[12:59] <Kensey> awesome :)
[12:59] <Shadyman> Kensey: But then, so did the ascii one, yesterday :P
[12:59] <Kensey> you probably just forgot the ASCII prefix or something :)
[12:59] <thingfish> boo hoo, no misfit_toy; I wanted to pinch his butt.
[12:59] <cvt|nixmas> navarone, i thought i just found the fiile and opened it to edit it.
[12:59] <mrtanooki> i enjoy how VLC media player is being a peice of crap and not repeating things on my playlist like i told it to
[12:59] <Shadyman> Kensey: ASCII prefix? I did key="whatever"
[12:59] <Kensey> key or psk?
[01:00] <Shadyman> psk.
[01:00] <navarone> cvt...if you open it in file browser you are opening as regular user and do not have access to save changes
[01:00] <Shadyman> Kensey: Blonde typingn moment.
[01:00] <Kensey> if you do that I think it assumes you're giving it hex.
[01:00] <brasko> I did a reboot, and the mouse works, I'll see what happens when I switch back
[01:00] <Shadyman> Kensey: I'll have to restart and see what happens.
[01:00] <alvaro> hi, im trying to install gcursor but i get this error:The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:00] <alvaro>   d4x: Depends: d4x-common (= 2.5.6-2~breezy1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:01] <Shadyman> Kensey: Also, I've got wired and wireless on my laptop. If i don't plug in the wired, it takes 5 minutes trying to find the wired connection. What do you set it to for enabled/disabled connections at boot time?
[01:01] <brasko> yeah, now the mouse is screwed up
[01:01] <brasko> totally sucks
[01:01] <cvt|nixmas> navarone, what do i type in the terminal?
[01:01] <navarone> cvt|nixmas, whata re you trying to edit?
[01:01] <cvt|nixmas> sources.list
[01:01] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:01] <brasko> The Alt-Ctrl-F2 and back to 7 didn't work either
[01:02] <gnomefreak> or you can use gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas,  see above
[01:02] <brasko> also, restarting gdm doesn't fix it
[01:02] <brasko> So, this is totally the worst situation possible for me.
[01:03] <gnomefreak> brasko, what is the problem?
[01:03] <navarone> brasko...why not buy another mouse in order to stop having to swap all the time?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> mouse settings should have no affect on anything but the mouse
[01:03] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, ok done updating but same broken packeges error when running the command to install mplayer
[01:03] <brasko> navarone: that will happen eventually, but it's not an option right now
[01:03] <cvt|nixmas> cafuego, i was able update but the mplayer command failed
[01:04] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, please use pastebin and paste the command and the errors you are getting
[01:04] <brasko> The problem is that when I switch on the KVM, and go back to Linux the mouse doesn't work
[01:04] <brasko> If I kill X, the mouse still doesn't work.
[01:04] <alvaro> can someone help me?
[01:04] <Shadyman> Kensey: Where do you activate wpa_supplicant? on login?
[01:04] <brasko> With debian's X (not X.org I don't think), the mouse would resync and work fine
[01:04] <gnomefreak> KVM?
[01:04] <brasko> Yeah
[01:05] <Kensey> it's activated at startup -- there's an entry in /etc/rc*.d/
[01:05] <gnomefreak> brasko, what is kvm?
[01:05] <brasko> How is windows capable of dealing with it perfectly, but X isn't?
[01:05] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/485741
[01:05] <Shadyman> brasko: because Windows is loaded with tons of drivers aka kernel bloat.
[01:05] <Kensey> I think the package installed it
[01:06] <brasko> gnomefreak: I don't understand your question to answer it properly
[01:06] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install mplayer wont work?
[01:06] <navarone> Shadyman, yeah... I think .inf means infinite number for them
[01:06] <gnomefreak> brasko, what is kvm?
[01:06] <Shadyman> navarone: Yeah. Drivers.infinite
[01:06] <richardtallent> Just installed 5.10, but didn't recognize wireless PCMCIA card. Linksys card, sShows up in device manager as "BCM4306 802.11b/g". Next steps?
[01:06] <Shadyman> !kvm
[01:06] <ubotu> Shadyman: I give up, what is it?
[01:06] <Sepheebear> lol
[01:06] <Kensey> looks like a broadcom card.
[01:06] <pashaw> gnomefreak,   KVM switch multiple computers connected to 1 set of mouse/keyboard/monitor
[01:06] <Shadyman> a KVM switch is where you have 2 computers, and one keyboard, mouse, etc.
[01:06] <alvaro> hi, im trying to install gcursor but i get this error:The following packages have unmet dependencies:d4x: Depends: d4x-common (= 2.5.6-2~breezy1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:06] <Shadyman> pashaw: Heh.
[01:06] <Sepheebear> kvm == keyboard+video+mouse
[01:06] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, why do you have 586 on the end of the command?
[01:07] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, says broken packeges
[01:07] <gnomefreak> ty Sepheebear
[01:07] <brasko>  KVM  [direct link]   Keyboard - Video - Mouse
[01:07] <brasko> I suppose
[01:07] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, that's what i was told. leaving it off requests that i chose one
[01:07] <brasko> from acronymfinder.com
[01:07] <brasko> The problem is, X.org/Linux has the mouse driver
[01:07] <Shadyman> My kubuntu froze at shutdown, at "Saving the system clock... [OK] "
[01:07] <agtnz> hi all happy new year. my sound is really quiet. anyone have any ideas? whats the package name of the gnome mixer, btw.
[01:07] <brasko> the problem is simply resyncing it
[01:08] <zelevw> happy new year!
[01:08] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, you have universe and multiverse in your sources.list file enabled?
[01:08] <navarone> agtnz, new install?
[01:09] <agtnz> navarone: nope it was after i installed something ... hold on
[01:09] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, i just ran sudo apt-get isntall mplayer and it worked fine for me
[01:09] <gnomefreak> install*
[01:09] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[01:09] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:10] <agtnz> navarone: i think i installed some oss thing. i was trying to get multiple sounds at once. hmm
[01:10] <navarone> agtnz, try Apllication/Sound/Video/Volume control and make sure volume is up enough.
[01:10] <navarone> ahh
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ok i see why
[01:10] <alvaro> hi, im trying to install gcursor but i get this error:The following packages have unmet dependencies:d4x: Depends: d4x-common (= 2.5.6-2~breezy1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:10] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, you have an intel 32bit processer?
[01:10] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, do i enable multiverse for every listing in repositories?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> !sources
[01:11] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:11] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, pentium M 2gHz so i think so
[01:11] <navarone> agtnz, try System/Pref/MultiMedia selector and play around with the output and input till you find a good combo
[01:11] <gnomefreak> go there and match yours up to that one but make sure you take the # away from the sources
[01:11] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, what was the command to edit sources.list again?
[01:12] <agtnz> navarone: mmm i'm using xfce on a server install of xubuntu... but i'm installing gnome-media at the moment and will have a play. cheers
[01:12] <gnomefreak> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:12] <navarone> ahh...okay
[01:12] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, i think that brought up a blank file
[01:12] <alvaro> ...
[01:12] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, it should work if not use sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <guerby> hi, my dual core amd64 time is drifting at amazing speed (looks like one second/minute or so) when measured against my mono core amd64, both machine in ubuntu 5.10 and ntp-server running, is this a known issue?
[01:13] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, ok what do i look for in there?
[01:13] <Shadyman> guerby: Sounds like your time is overclocked ;);)
[01:14] <guerby> Shadyman, no overclock :)
[01:14] <gnomefreak> look for a line that says something like deb archives.ubuntu.com breezy multiverse
[01:14] <Shadyman> guerby: I assume you're running the 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[01:14] <guerby> Shadyman, yes on both machines, I just upgraded the kernel
[01:15] <gnomefreak> theres a kernel for dual processers
[01:15] <Shadyman> guerby: Weird.
[01:15] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, found those lines
[01:15] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, they don't have #
[01:15] <guerby> gnomefreak, I'm using -smp on the dual core
[01:15] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, can you paste the sources.list file to pastebin please
[01:15] <guerby> Linux version 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8-smp (buildd@crested) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 SMP Thu Dec 22 11:27:46 UTC 2005
[01:15] <gnomefreak> that would be the one guerby
[01:15] <guerby> Linux version 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic (buildd@crested) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 Thu Dec 22 10:56:42 UTC 2005
[01:16] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, http://pastebin.com/485757
[01:16] <guerby> first is my dual core one, second is my mono core one
[01:16] <brasko> OK, where is the XF86 config file again? sorry.
[01:16] <mite`> LET THE DRINKING BEGIN
[01:16] <guerby> gnomefreak, what do you mean? Is the problem known on k8-smp?
[01:16] <mite`> LET THE DRINKING BEGIN
[01:17] <mite`> LET THE DRINKING BEGIN
[01:17] <mite`> LET THE DRINKING BEGIN
[01:17] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, not to make a difference but change the country code in line 18 to de since all the others are using de
[01:17] <mite`> LET THE DRINKING BEGIN
[01:17] <gnomefreak> guerby, not that i know of
[01:17] <Shadyman> mite`: sounds like the drinking has already taken place.
[01:17] <mite`> LET THE DRINKING BEGIN
[01:18] <guerby> gnomefreak, ok thanks I'll ping canonical about it
[01:18] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, after you save dont forget to run sudo apt-get update
[01:18] <guerby> gnomefreak, (and I don't understand why ntp-server isn't fixing the problem)
[01:18] <mite`> LOL X-Chat's amsg command apparently isnt per network! Happy new years. sluts.
[01:19] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, and now sudo apt-get install mplayer?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, did you run the update command?
[01:19] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, yes
[01:19] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, it wants me to pick a version
[01:19] <gnomefreak> ok yes run sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[01:19] <cvt|nixmas> ok
[01:19] <mebaran151> what's a good C ide available for Ubuntu
[01:20] <NeoGeo64> Hi all, I have a BROKEN cd burner but I'm on a LAN... is there any way to do a net-install of the latest version of ubuntu
[01:20] <gnomefreak> mebaran151, anjuta
[01:20] <mebaran151> is it in the repos?
[01:20] <mwe> mebaran151: kdevelop, eclipse with the plugin
[01:20] <gnomefreak> mebaran151, yes im pretty sure its in main repo
[01:20] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, i get broken packages error.... i'll pastebin
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !info anjuta
[01:20] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[01:20] <timfrost> cvt|nixmas, you need a line like "deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"
[01:21] <gnomefreak> timfrost, isnt that one in there?
[01:21] <mebaran151> eclipse doesn't work....
[01:21] <mebaran151> I really like it though
[01:21] <cvt|nixmas> timfrost, what do i do with that line?
[01:21] <mebaran151> but in Ubuntu
[01:21] <gnomefreak> or did i miss it?
[01:21] <mebaran151> it doesn't like to start up
[01:21] <mwe> mebaran151: it works fine here
[01:21] <NeoGeo64> I will ask my question once more...
[01:21] <NeoGeo64> Hi all, I have a BROKEN cd burner but I'm on a LAN... is there any way to do a net-install of the latest version of ubuntu
[01:21] <timfrost> cvt|nixmas, add it to /etc/apt/sources.list, then re-run update.
[01:21] <navarone> tim frost that line is there
[01:22] <mwe> mebaran151: can you start it with sudo? I seem to remember having to do some chown and chmod'ing to get it working right
[01:22] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh damn i missed that he only has the scr one :(
[01:22] <gnomefreak> src even
[01:22] <NeoGeo64> I really want to rid my PC of Windows... won't someone please help me? :(
[01:22] <gnomefreak> thank you timfrost
[01:23] <navarone> hmmm...actually it says updates on that line...would there bea  diff?
[01:23] <cvt|nixmas> doing it
[01:23] <kemik> NeoGeo64:  dont think there's a netinstall of ubuntu
[01:23] <thiago_> alguem fala portugues?
[01:23] <cvt|nixmas> dl'ing
[01:23] <gnomefreak> kemik, yes there is
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !install
[01:23] <ubotu> well, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:23] <navarone> ubuntu-br
[01:23] <navarone> thiago #ubuntu-br
[01:23] <mebaran151> I'll just use ajunta
[01:23] <mebaran151> looks pretty cool
[01:23] <NeoGeo64> im on 3mbit dsl, i need to put it to good use anyways
[01:23] <thiago_> thanks
[01:23] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, i installed 386. do i install more?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, mplayer installed?
[01:24] <NeoGeo64> happy new year all
[01:24] <mwe> mebaran151: I guess it's a matter of personal prefs. I don't like the feel of it
[01:24] <NeoGeo64> well almost
[01:24] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, yes,
[01:24] <mebaran151> mwe, I used eclipse but it felt like it did too much work for me
[01:24] <mebaran151> now I am dll'ing all the dev files
[01:24] <NeoGeo64> WHY is the wiki for ubuntu using HTTPS ?
[01:24] <NeoGeo64> thats odd
[01:24] <gnomefreak> mebaran151, use it if you find you like something else try it its all up to the user
[01:25] <mebaran151> Debian should have made it standard policy years ago not to split up the dev files
[01:25] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, do i need to get more codecs or anything like that?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> cvt|nixmas, that i dont know
[01:25] <thiago_> thank you very much
[01:25] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[01:25] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:26] <Iga> hi, happy new year, could somebody help me ?
[01:26] <cvt|nixmas> gnomefreak, kthx.
[01:26] <cvt|nixmas> timfrost, thx
[01:26] <gnomefreak> no matter what i run i cant get these damn restricted mods to install :(
[01:26] <psusi> Iga, only if you ask a question
[01:26] <cosco> hey ... can you please tell me how to make the 3d acceleration work ? i have ati radeon 9800 pro
[01:26] <timfrost> navarone, breezy-updates is for updates since the release of breezy last October (other than security updates, which are in breezy-security)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cosco about ati
[01:27] <Iga> I just began installing Breezy, but the installation program has problem : "The debootstrap programm has ended with mistakes"
[01:27] <fredforfaen> !tell cosco about ati
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Iga,  reburn the cd at a lower speed
[01:27] <psusi> Iga, sounds like your cd is clobbered
[01:27] <gnomefreak> if you burnt the cd
[01:27] <Markbb-> o.0 tell me about ati ubotu :p
[01:27] <purpleheart_USMC> Does anyone here use the 64 bit version?
[01:27] <psusi> purpleheart_USMC, yes
[01:28] <gnomefreak> iga always burn on lowest you can normally 4-8
[01:28] <mebaran151> I use 64 bit
[01:28] <mebaran151> except for flash
[01:28] <Iga> I used the cd ubuntuship sent me
[01:28] <mebaran151> everything seems to work
[01:28] <eZe> hi guys, i'm having problems connecting to the internet (router + dsl)
[01:28] <cafuego> purpleheart_USMC: I used to, but switched back to 32bit coz too much stuff just doesn't work.
[01:28] <purpleheart_USMC> Is it any different than 32 bit?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Iga,  do you have another cd?
[01:28] <psusi> purpleheart_USMC, I dunno... never used 32bit
[01:28] <cafuego> purpleheart_USMC: No, it's supposed to be identical to 32bit.
[01:28] <gnomefreak> iga did you order more than 1
[01:28] <psusi> it's supposedly faster at some things
[01:28] <navarone> Okay I am gone for the night...happy New Years folks
[01:29] <Iga> Yes, I have got others
[01:29] <purpleheart_USMC> And can you use a 32 bit version on a 64 bit cpu?
[01:29] <cafuego> purpleheart_USMC: The only differences are that on 64bit you can't have decent flash or decent java support. Also no decent video support.
[01:29] <gnomefreak> try a different one
[01:29] <cafuego> purpleheart_USMC: Yes
[01:29] <gnomefreak> iga sounds like the cd was burned wrong
[01:29] <cosco> i have another question .. it asks me about root password but i didnt set it yet? what should i do?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> iga it happens i had 10 out of 20 from ship it found bad
[01:29] <cafuego> purpleheart_USMC: And it may be just me, but the 32bit version seems to run *faster* than the 64bit one.
[01:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cosco about root
[01:29] <psusi> cafuego, that is not true... there's no difference in video that I know of... and you can get flash and java, it's just a pain because you have to set up a 32bit chroot
[01:29] <Iga> Hmm, ok, I'm going to try a different one
[01:30] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:30] <mebaran151> cafuego, not if you do encoding or compiling
[01:30] <purpleheart_USMC> thanks
[01:30] <mebaran151> I find mencoder works almost twice as fast in 64 bits
[01:30] <purpleheart_USMC> Was purchasing Linux in a Nutshell 5th ed. a good choice?  I just got it
[01:30] <cafuego> psusi: Ever try resizing a video window in 64bit?
[01:30] <Infernall> are there any console web browsers that support javascript?  I need to make a change in my router, but can't submit changes...
[01:30] <eZe> can it be that i can't connect to the inet because i'm using the 64bit version?
[01:30] <psusi> cafuego, yea
[01:30] <psusi> cafuego, I have dri and 3d acceleration working fine
[01:30] <cafuego> psusi: on my box, that resulted in either the player crashing or X crshing.
[01:30] <gnomefreak> Infernall, you mean like links2?
[01:30] <cafuego> psusi: Yes, dri works fine.
[01:31] <Infernall> gnomefreak - hrmm i was using just links.. will try.
[01:31] <mebaran151> Infernall, hahaha
[01:31] <mebaran151> javascript in terminal
[01:31] <mebaran151> I don't think so
[01:31] <cafuego> psusi: For normal desktop use, 32bit is  afar better option at this point.
[01:31] <eZe> can it be that i can't connect to the inet because i'm using the 64bit version?
[01:31] <psusi> the newer Xorg in dapper though seems to have some strange issues with transparancy of black areas in video players
[01:31] <mebaran151> cafuego, yeah
[01:31] <thi8838> #olinda
[01:31] <cafuego> eZe: no
[01:31] <Iga> thank you, I keep you informed ;-)
[01:31] <eZe> is thre
[01:31] <cafuego> eZe: Well, maybe if you have an unsupported wireless card
[01:31] <psusi> cafuego, the more people who use it, the faster it will get bugs fixed...
[01:31] <eZe> cafuego: wired
[01:31] <mebaran151> but from 8 hours of encoding to 4 hours is a nice jump just from switching architecture
[01:31] <gnomefreak> Infernall, do you want a graphical browser? or a text browser?
[01:32] <cafuego> psusi: I used it for a year and a half, and _nothing_ got fixed. I'll happily stick with 32bit.
[01:32] <psusi> mebaran151, encoding what?  and it was really twice as fast for you?  wow!
[01:32] <cosco> gnomefreak: i dont understand.. please tell me how to become root
[01:32] <mebaran151> psusi, encoding a DVD to AVI
[01:32] <psusi> cafuego, did you file any bug reports?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> cosco, what command are you tryin to run?
[01:32] <cafuego> psusi: Yep
[01:32] <mebaran151> to put on my perosnal media player
[01:32] <psusi> mebaran151, wow... nice
[01:32] <eZe> is there some guide for connecting to the internet with ubuntu using a router + dsl?
[01:32] <cosco> gnomefreak .... trying to set up 3d acceleration for radeon
[01:32] <cafuego> cosco: 'sudo -i' will give you a root shell.
[01:32] <mebaran151> I ran mencoder though with all the fancy features
[01:33] <mebaran151> trell, v4mv, vqmin = 2
[01:33] <cosco> thanks cafuego
[01:33] <gnomefreak> cosco,  did you read the wiki on ati?
[01:33] <mebaran151> so for most people it might not be so drastic, but this was a hq rip
[01:33] <cosco> gnomefreak i was reading it .. and tried to make it work .. and hitted on su problem :D but now its solved
[01:33] <cosco> thanks
[01:33] <eZe> is there some guide for connecting to the internet with ubuntu using a router + dsl?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> cosco, use sudo not su
[01:34] <mebaran151> eZe, your router should handle the DSL part
[01:34] <gnomefreak> they took links2 out :( brb gonna look for it
[01:34] <cosco> gnomefreak k
[01:34] <mebaran151> so if you can connect to your router, you're set
[01:35] <BxL> can someone recommend me a light image editor. I want something simple, kinda like mspaint
[01:35] <cafuego> BxL: tuxpaint?
[01:35] <eZe> but appearently i can't :)
[01:35] <gnomefreak> BxL, gimp?
[01:35] <BxL> cafuego, I'll try that, thanks
[01:36] <alvaro> I'm trying to install gcursor but i get an error.:The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:36] <alvaro>   d4x: Depends: d4x-common (= 2.5.6-2~breezy1) but it is not going to be installed
[01:36] <eZe> what reasons can there be if ubuntu can't connect to the router?
[01:36] <cosco> and another thing.. i see on desktop the windows partitions. . i have a fat32 one and a ntfs.. in linux.. i see them .. but .. when i try to access the ntfs one i get an error .. what can i do?
[01:36] <mebaran151> eZe, and pm me what you see
[01:36] <Shadyman> Hmm. Is an AMD Sempron a 686 or a K7?
[01:36] <mebaran151> type ifconfig
[01:36] <eZe> i don't see anything
[01:37] <mebaran151> eZe, in terminal
[01:37] <mebaran151> ifconfig?
[01:38] <eZe> alright, will be back in couple minutes after i tried it, so just enter ifconfig?
[01:38] <mebaran151> you're going to get just info
[01:38] <mebaran151> I need to see what the info says
[01:38] <mebaran151> to tell you what to try
[01:38] <eZe> alright, i'll try it
[01:39] <timfrost> alvaro, is universe enabled for breezy-backports? The latest versions opf both packages are there
[01:39] <alvaro> how do i check?
[01:40] <mebaran151> can someone put opensync and it's plugins up in the backports
[01:40] <Pepe> good evening
[01:40] <mebaran151> (I need them)
[01:40] <Pepe> why all my 3d games run slow? I've got a 64mb nvidia card
[01:40] <timfrost> alvaro, pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy d4x d4x-common".
[01:41] <Shadyman> Pepe: Maybe that's the reason.
[01:41] <Pepe> any solution available?
[01:41] <alvaro> ok how do i paste the result here?
[01:41] <Shadyman> Pepe: Not sure
[01:42] <gnomefreak> alvaro, use pastebin
[01:42] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell alvaro about pastebin
[01:42] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[01:42] <Shadyman> Hey
[01:42] <sobersabre> i am on amd64 machine. is it possible to have both 64 and 32 bit environment  on it ?
[01:42] <timfrost> alvaro, post the URL of the pastebin item to this forum.
[01:42] <Iga> gnomefreak > I tested two different cds, the error's still here
[01:43] <alvaro> ok im at the site
[01:43] <cosco> hey.. i did what it says in the sheet about ati radeon 3d acceleration .. but i dont think i have the acceleration .. how can i see if i have it ? and what should i do if i dont have it
[01:43] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, yes amd64 supports 32 as well as 64 bit
[01:43] <alvaro> so do i post it there?
[01:43] <eXXin> is this a channel for ubuntu developers? :P
[01:43] <sobersabre> gnomefreak, what do I need for this ? is there a metapackage I should install ?
[01:43] <mwe> eXXin: ubuntu-dev iirc
[01:43] <timfrost> alvaro, yes
[01:44] <gnomefreak> Iga,  more than likely its not your hardware with that error i would keep trying the cds untill no more are left to try or untill its installed
[01:44] <eXXin> mwe, so the answer is "yes"? :)
[01:44] <alvaro> ok i pasted it
[01:44] <Pepe> any other comment about my issue?
[01:44] <cosco> gnomefreak can u help me with this pls?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, that im not real sure about im a 32bit man :)
[01:44] <gnomefreak> cosco, what is wrong with it?
[01:44] <alvaro> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6434
[01:44] <cosco> gnomefreak, i did what it says in the tutorial"" .. but i dont think i have 3d acc.. how can i see if i have? and what should i do if i dont have
[01:45] <Iga> I have still 3 or 4 different cds, I'm going to try with those...
[01:45] <mwe> eXXin: I think the developer channel is #ubuntu-dev
[01:45] <gnomefreak> cosco, i cant remember the command they told me the other day :(
[01:45] <mebaran151> ajunta is really nice
[01:46] <cosco> :\
[01:46] <mebaran151> too bad it doesn't look as nice as Eclipse
[01:46] <cosco> anybody else?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> mwe, command for testing 3d isnt it gtkx or something like that?
[01:46] <mebaran151> but I never did understand all of Eclipses options
[01:46] <mebaran151> does Eclipse run on the AMD64 JVM that Ubuntu provides for use with OpenOffice2?
[01:46] <MickMcMack> O_O
[01:46] <cosco> mwe
[01:46] <cosco> gnomefreak mwe, command for testing 3d isnt it gtkx or something like that?
[01:46] <mwe> cosco
[01:47] <cosco> :P :) :> :D
[01:47] <gnomefreak> mwe #ubuntu-dev is enpty 2nd do you remember the command for testing 3d?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> :))
[01:47] <mwe> gnomefreak: glxinfo|grep direct
[01:47] <cosco> lol
[01:47] <gnomefreak> ty mwe
[01:47] <cosco> direct rendering: Yes
[01:47] <cosco> that means i have 3d acc?
[01:47] <mwe> cosco: good
[01:47] <gnomefreak> cosco, type that commadn in terminal paste output on pastebin
[01:48] <gnomefreak> nm yes thats good
[01:48] <gnomefreak> you have 3d
[01:48] <cosco> well i dont really think so
[01:48] <gnomefreak> cosco, have you played any 3d games?
[01:48] <cosco> no..
[01:48] <cosco> and i dont know where to download tux racer
[01:48] <cosco> :D
[01:48] <gnomefreak> synaptic should have it
[01:48] <cosco> it doesnt
[01:48] <cosco> i tried
[01:48] <Markbb-> <3 tux racer
[01:49] <mwe> cosco: yeah however confirm that glxgears -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmarktool gives you more than about 300 fps
[01:49] <timfrost> alvaro,  that says that you have managed to install d4x without installing d4x-common.  Try running "apt-get install -f", and pastebin the output
[01:49] <gnomefreak> !info tuxracer
[01:49] <ubotu> tuxracer: (dummy transition package), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[01:49] <gnomefreak> if you have universe enabled its in synaptic
[01:50] <cosco> mwe: ... glxgears sucks ... i have 300fps without 3d acc
[01:50] <alvaro> oh ok it works now
[01:50] <alvaro> it installed that thing
[01:50] <mwe> cosco: it is not a benchmark, but 300fps is really low
[01:51] <timfrost> alvaro, thats good news
[01:51] <cosco> when does it stop ? lol
[01:51] <cosco> that wheels keep spinning
[01:51] <cosco> but no info about fps
[01:53] <MrRio> happy new year!
[01:53] <mwe> cosco: use glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[01:53] <mwe> cosco: no joke
[01:53] <yatesy> laff
[01:53] <cosco> lol
[01:53] <cosco> 5100 fps
[01:53] <mwe> cosco: good
[01:53] <cosco> is it good?
[01:53] <cosco> 8000 fps
[01:54] <mwe> cosco: as it says no benchmark, but certainly accelerated
[01:54] <cosco> okey
[01:54] <cosco> thanks
[01:54] <joshua> can anyone tell me the commad to install macromedia flash player ?
[01:54] <joshua> command*
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> !flash
[01:54] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:54] <joshua> ok
[01:54] <cafuego> 68713 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13742.188 FPS  (yay :-)
[01:54] <joshua> thanks
[01:54] <kbrooks> !freeformats
[01:54] <ubotu> hmm... freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[01:56] <mwe> cafuego: heh. I guess the long option name to see the fps has no effect on users :)
[01:56] <cafuego> mwe: Nah, people still use it as a benchmark. (You can overclock your gfx card by making the windows with the gears really small!)
[01:57] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to get linuxlogo to run?
[01:57] <[1] justin> Hey.
[01:57] <[1] justin> Okay.. I just installed ubuntu and the install went fine.
[01:57] <[1] justin> Then it wanted to restart like normally once that stage is done.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> gave you a grub error?
[01:58] <[1] justin> No, it got to the next stage.
[01:58] <cosco> barton 3000+ .. i386 or AMD64?
[01:58] <[1] justin> To install packages.
[01:58] <gnomefreak> oh ok good :))
[01:58] <eZe> gnomefreak: it won't let me copy the stuff out of the terminal window
[01:58] <[1] justin> and stoped about 10% into it
[01:58] <mwe> cafuego: yeah that's a great tweak. I should have known before I started playing doom3 in linux!
[01:58] <cafuego> cosco: What will you mainly be doing with the machine?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> eZe, what are you talking about?
[01:58] <Shadyman> cosco: Is it a 64-bit?
[01:58] <cosco> i dont know
[01:58] <cosco> cafuego: play games :D
[01:58] <Shadyman> cosco: It might be K7
[01:58] <cafuego> mwe: It's true! Doom3 runs way faster at 320x240!
[01:58] <cafuego> cosco: Probably 32bit then.
[01:59] <cosco> so..?
[01:59] <Shadyman> cosco: K7
[01:59] <[1] justin> any ideas whats up?
[01:59] <cosco> argh
[01:59] <sobersabre> guys, i've tried to install sun java 1.5 on amd64. I get an error:
[01:59] <cosco> AMD64 or i 386?
[01:59] <cafuego> cosco: i386
[01:59] <eZe> gnomefreak: never mind, was somebody else i was talking to 5 minutes ago ;)
[01:59] <cosco> ok thanks
[01:59] <mwe> cafuego: yeah ;)
[01:59] <[1] justin> im stuck on a text login screen
[01:59] <eZe> just can't remember who
[02:00] <sobersabre> java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
[02:00] <cosco> root@cosco:/home/cosco# sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[02:00] <cosco> Reading package lists... Done
[02:00] <cosco> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:00] <cosco> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[02:00] <cosco> root@cosco:/home/cosco#
[02:01] <cosco> :(
[02:01] <Raskall> happy new year. someone still inn 2005 here?
[02:01] <cosco> its the command from site
[02:01] <cafuego> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[02:01] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[02:01] <cafuego> cosco: enable mulitverse
[02:01] <cosco> cafuego : how do i do that?
[02:01] <cosco> im n00b :D
[02:01] <cafuego> Don't follow only HALF the instructions.
[02:01] <Pygi> Happy New year to everyone :)
[02:02] <mwe> Pygi: you too
[02:02] <eZe> well, i can't connect to the router and some guy 10 minutes ago told me to run ifconfig
[02:02] <SEJeff> cosco, System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[02:02] <Shadyman> pygi: u2
[02:02] <cosco> yeah .. and?
[02:02] <cosco> from there?:D
[02:02] <cafuego> cosco: Read the WHOLE page.
[02:02] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrr i cant get this to open :(
[02:02] <cosco> cafuego what page man?
[02:02] <Pygi> gnomefreak: what seems to be the problem?
[02:02] <SEJeff> cosco, Settings --> Repositories --> Add
[02:02] <Iga> hmmm, I tried the 3 other cds, all crashed :-(
[02:02] <cosco> ok thanks
[02:03] <cafuego> cosco: [12:01]  <cosco> its the command from site  -> that site
[02:03] <bipolar> anyone got the ati drivers up and running in dapper?
[02:03] <eZe> what reasons can there be why ubuntu can't connect to my router?
[02:03] <SEJeff> bipolar, Yes, it is the exact same as in breezy
[02:03] <Iga> I think I'll install Hoary again...
[02:03] <cosco> cafuego you want me to read all the site? lol
[02:03] <bipolar> SEJeff: what kernel are you running?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i cant open linuxlogo :(
[02:03] <SEJeff> jeff@ubuntu-desktop:~$ uname -r
[02:03] <SEJeff> 2.6.15-9-686
[02:04] <cafuego> cosco: it's an excellent opportunity to learn
[02:04] <bipolar> SEJeff: ahh... it must be a problem with the new one then. -10
[02:04] <gnomefreak> <<<2.6.15.10 :)
[02:04] <Iga> Yesterday I upgraded Hoary towards Breezy without problems, but Windows had several problems, so I had to install it again...
[02:04] <SEJeff> bipolar, apt isn't wanting me to update to -10. It tells me angry things
[02:04] <bipolar> SEJeff: did you use the ubuntu packages or the ati package?
[02:04] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :/
[02:04] <purpleheart_USMC> sweet. i just turned on my 5.1 live cd
[02:05] <eZe> what reasons can there be why ubuntu can't connect to my router?
[02:05] <SEJeff> bipolar, ubuntu
[02:05] <bipolar> interesting...
[02:05] <Pygi> eZe: ethernet interface not up?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> Pygi, linuxlogo is a color ANSI system logo
[02:05] <Pygi> gnomefreak: I know...
[02:05] <Pygi> hehe :)
[02:05] <eZe> i activated it, if that is what you mean...
[02:05] <SEJeff> bipolar, I did manually run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:05] <gnomefreak> Pygi, how do i get to see it?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:06] <bipolar> SEJeff: I have a working xorg.conf, just need to get the driver working.
[02:06] <cosco> cafuego: i set the repository.. i find the flash now.. but i cant find tux racer lol
[02:06] <eZe> when i activate the ethernet connection, i have to choose dhcp, right? (using a router)
[02:06] <Pygi> gnomefreak: what's so funny? :)
[02:06] <bipolar> E: Package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-10-686 has no installation candidate << grrrr
[02:06] <cafuego> cosco: 'ppracer'
[02:06] <gnomefreak> cosco,  try apt-cache search tux
[02:07] <cosco> k
[02:07] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ok, wanna me to lead you throught steps you need to make to make it work?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  that i cant get it to open
[02:07] <bipolar> I tried installing the ati package, but the module won't build
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Pygi, if you can
[02:07] <cosco> ppracer not found lol
[02:07] <gnomefreak> bipolar,  mines being kept back
[02:08] <cosco> tuxracer - dummy transition package
[02:08] <cosco> tuxracer-data - dummy transition package
[02:08] <cosco> tuxracer-extras - dummy transition package for tuxracer -> ppracer transition
[02:08] <cosco> this is all
[02:08] <cosco> with tuxracer
[02:08] <gnomefreak> i got the kernel just not the mods
[02:08] <niffe> ubuntun virallinen kanava /list
[02:08] <niffe> ohoh
[02:08] <Shadyman> How do i get something to run on boot (ie wpa_supplicant)?
[02:08] <Pygi> gnomefreak: renam the Debian default
[02:08] <Pygi> 	/etc/motd, create a new one with touch motd', use the following
[02:08] <Pygi> 	command:/usr/local/bin/linux_logo > /etc/motd
[02:08] <Pygi> gnomefreak: when your done, tell me so I can say further...
[02:09] <cosco> cafuego , gnomefreak more ideeas?
[02:09] <cosco> :D
[02:09] <Pygi> gnomefreak: then add a line of text to the end of file
[02:10] <eXXin> i downloaded tuxracer from synaptic
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ok i cant run that command
[02:10] <eXXin> oh, my chatwindows wasnt scrolled to the button, lol
[02:10] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, what seems to happen?
[02:10] <eXXin> so i answerd someone far upp in the chatwindow :P
[02:10] <eXXin> sorry ;)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Pygi, if i run it with sudo it gives me permission denied if i run it in sudo -i it tells me no such file
[02:11] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, there is that file, isn't it?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Pygi, bin is empty
[02:12] <ITSa341> Hello and Happy New Year everyone
[02:12] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, have you installed linux logo?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> yes
[02:12] <gnomefreak> linuxlogo is already the newest version.
[02:12] <[1] justin> anyone have any ideas?
[02:12] <mwe> Pygi, gnomefreak what are you trying to do?
[02:13] <Pygi> so you should have a file linux_logo in /usr/local/bin
[02:13] <Pygi> mwe: I am explaining him how to start linux logo :)
[02:13] <linuzo> I was trying to install Sun Java with the wiki  but when I do apt-get install java-package it says not available.. all my repositories are on..
[02:13] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  should i restart X maybe?
[02:13] <Kensey> that was weird.  my wireless connection died when the laptop was idle.
[02:13] <ITSa341> Hello. what is the default location for the C header files to match the kernel in Ubuntu 5.10??
[02:13] <MasterWammy> after install in /usr/src
[02:13] <MasterWammy> iirc
[02:13] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, don't see why, it seems to me that the logo package didn't installed proprerly or somethin'
[02:13] <Pygi> but sure, you can try....
[02:14] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:14] <mwe> ITSa341: /usr/include/linux/ I believe
[02:14] <linuzo> and what package do I need ton install to get make-jpkg to work.
[02:14] <mwe> ITSa341: however dpkg -L <package_name> will list the files in a package
[02:15] <ITSa341> nothing in /usr/src   ty mwe
[02:15] <eZe> what reasons can there be why ubuntu can't connect to my router?
[02:15] <ITSa341> <-- trying to install vmware
[02:15] <Pygi> eZe: what router? specifics? model? version of ubuntu?
[02:15] <Pygi> wb gnomefreak
[02:16] <eZe> 5.10, linksys router
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ty Pygi
[02:16] <gnomefreak> i have a linux logo in /usr/bin/local
[02:16] <gnomefreak> its dimaond shaped
[02:16] <Kensey> so why am I supposed to use hwcrypto=0 with ipw2200 -- it seems to work fine with hwcrypto left per default, which I assume is "on".
[02:17] <Pygi> huh, ok then use usr/bin/local/linux_logo > /etc/motd
[02:17] <Pygi> and then added a line of text at the end of the file
[02:17] <wizardjames> how do i play wavpack music files
[02:17] <gnomefreak> not working either
[02:17] <pashaw> eZe, th install went ok right?
[02:18] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :/
[02:18] <linuzo> can someone help me.. I can't get java-package installed..
[02:18] <eZe> pashaw, using the live cd
[02:18] <linuzo> I'm on 5.10
[02:18] <richardtallent> thanks all, got the wireless adapter running.
[02:18] <pashaw> eZe,   ohhh  liveCD with no net connection then       using a regular netowkr card or some fansy usb thing
[02:18] <richardtallent> Next step: need FF 1.5 upgrade... any pointers?
[02:18] <Pygi> gnomefreak: and you renamed the /etc/motd and created new one with touch motd', right?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> same errors
[02:19] <gnomefreak> no
[02:19] <eZe> paddel, ethernet port of my mobo
[02:19] <Pygi> gnomefreak: no what?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> i didnt run touch motd
[02:19] <eZe> pashaw i meant ;)
[02:19] <pashaw> eZe,   type  ifconfig    does eth0 have an ip adress assigned
[02:19] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, do the thingy I wrote up :P
[02:19] <Pygi> then run command
[02:20] <Pygi> then add a line of text at the end of file
[02:20] <Pygi> richard: on breezy? you need to compile on your own....
[02:20] <gnomefreak> slow down what was 1st command i restarted X remember
[02:20] <eZe> i can't see an ip if enter that, just a lot of other stuff
[02:20] <wizardjames> how do i get wavpack (wv) music files to play?
[02:20] <Pygi> gnomefreak: k, just a moment, lemme write again :P
[02:20] <gnomefreak> ok
[02:20] <pashaw> eZe,   how about eth1   ip address?
[02:21] <richardtallent> yes, 5.10. that's a bummer. The pre-comp "1.5 for Linux 686" won't work?
[02:21] <mwe> wizardjames: what's that?
[02:21] <eZe> doesn't show me anything about eth1
[02:21] <pashaw> eZe,   ok  but you do see a eth0  right
[02:21] <eZe> yes
[02:21] <wizardjames> wavpack music files, i have encoded a few cds into wavpack, but all my music players (xmms juk amarok) wont play them
[02:21] <Pygi> richard: you can try, I compiled it on my own, so I wouldnt know...
[02:21] <gnomefreak> richardtallent,  you mean FF1.5?
[02:22] <Pygi> gnome: yes, he thinks FF1.5
[02:22] <Pygi> gnomefreak: First rename the Debian default
[02:22] <Pygi> 	/etc/motd, creat a new one with touch motd', use the following
[02:22] <Pygi> 	command:
[02:22] <Pygi> 
[02:22] <Pygi>             /usr/local/bin/linux_logo > /etc/motd
[02:22] <Pygi> 
[02:22] <Pygi>        and then add a line of text at the end of the file.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> there is no pre-compiled version that i know of
[02:22] <Pygi> huh, sorry Seveas and Amaranth :/
[02:22] <pashaw> eZe,  type ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10
[02:22] <[help> ok firefox made me switch users when one was froze up how do i switch back to default user cause thats where my bookmarks are
[02:22] <mwe> wizardjames: maybe you need to install wavpack
[02:22] <gnomefreak> Pygi, there is no commadn:(
[02:22] <[help> =(
[02:22] <mwe> wizardjames: or gstreamer0.8-wavpack
[02:23] <eZe> pashaw: permission denied
[02:23] <gnomefreak> eZe, use sudo
[02:23] <pashaw> eZe,   sudo  then that command
[02:23] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, change that /usr/local/bin/linux_logo with the position where your linux_logo is located
[02:23] <bipolar> yay! Restricted modules package just started working  :)
[02:23] <coldarticwolf> hello?
[02:23] <eZe> pashaw, doesn't do anything
[02:24] <wizardjames> mwe,  its already installed..
[02:24] <pashaw> eZe,   now type   ifconfig         and look at eth0  does it have an ip number now
[02:24] <[help> ok firefox made me switch users when one was froze up how do i switch back to default user cause thats where my bookmarks are
[02:24] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i didnt get the first part to change the name?
[02:24] <[help> help
[02:24] <eZe> pashaw, yes, it has
[02:24] <coldarticwolf> I need a bit of help...i want to custom install Unbuntu onto a partition of about 2G's...do i need to create a partition prior, or will the custom setup help me with it?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> after command: there was only /usr/local/bin .....
[02:24] <pashaw> eZe,   type   ping 192.168.0.1
[02:24] <mwe> wizardjames: then I have no idea
[02:24] <Pygi> gnomefreak: k, just a moment :P
[02:24] <skiy> happy new year all !
[02:24] <wizardjames> well this just sucks
[02:24] <gnomefreak> ok Pygi ty
[02:24] <Pygi> gnomefreak: First rename the Debian default
[02:24] <Pygi> 	/etc/motd, creat a new one with touch motd'
[02:24] <[help> someone help me please
[02:25] <Pygi> wizard: no it does not :)
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Pygi, how do i rename it?
[02:25] <eZe> pashaw, host unreachable
[02:25] <Pygi> wizard: it's no problem to compile it :P
[02:25] <mwe> wizardjames: libwavpack0 is also installed?
[02:25] <skiy> a quick question, If I install a "Daily" CD, can I still upgrade to the latest "stable" ubuntu?
[02:25] <coldarticwolf> I need a bit of help...i want to custom install Unbuntu onto a partition of about 2G's...do i need to create a partition prior, or will the custom setup help me with it?
[02:25] <richardtallent> ok, have FF 1.5 untarred, haven't run Linux in 5 years. What now? make something or other?
[02:25] <pashaw> eZe,   ok  type   sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.10
[02:25] <cafuego> skiy: That would currently constitude a downgrade, no?
[02:25] <skiy> cafuego: sorry
[02:25] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:25] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:25] <cafuego> skiy: Or did you fetch a breezy daily?
[02:26] <pashaw> eZe,   unles you changd your router it will be using 192.168.1.1  or 0.1
[02:26] <skiy> cafuego: I mean when the new dapper is released
[02:26] <skiy> cafuego: I'm downloading a dapper daily
[02:26] <cafuego> skiy: Oh yes, certainly.
[02:26] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, how do you rename a file? :P
[02:26] <cafuego> skiy: Just keep updating maybe a few times a week :-)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Pygi, dont know but i know how to make one :)
[02:26] <Pygi> skiy: new dapper will be released in April
[02:26] <eZe> pashaw, didnt change anything
[02:26] <coldarticwolf> How many Gig's does Ubunu requires to install?
[02:26] <[help> ok firefox made me switch users when one was froze up how do i switch back to default user cause thats where my bookmarks are+
[02:26] <skiy> cafuego: splendid :), me wonders if they fixed the empty download window on firefox :)
[02:27] <pashaw> eZe,   type ping 192.168.1.1
[02:27] <[help> ??
[02:27] <cosco> gnomefreak.. i have a question .. how can i see a ntfs partition in linux? it gives me an error if i click on it on desktop..
[02:27] <eZe> pashaw, unreachable
[02:27] <Pygi> gnomefreak:   mv x y  	  move or rename file x to file y
[02:27] <gnomefreak> cosco,  i dont know
[02:27] <Pygi> :)
[02:28] <pashaw> eZe,   is the cable connected to the router and puter  is the LED on for that port on the router
[02:28] <Pygi> cosco: try accessing it using sudo in terminal
[02:28] <eZe> pashaw, yes
[02:28] <wizardjames> mwe,  yes libwavpack0 is installed too
[02:28] <Pygi> cosco: if it works, then you can use gksudo to view it graphicly if your using ubuntu , if kubuntu, then "kdesu"
[02:28] <ppcguy> just installed a GeForceFX/5500 Nvidia card on my celly1.8 running breezy. What do I need to do to get x back up? Lynx'in the forum right now
[02:28] <[help> ok firefox made me switch users when one was froze up how do i switch back to default user cause thats where my bookmarks are+???
[02:28] <yaaar> word
[02:28] <[help> anyone?
[02:29] <pashaw> eZe, uggg    too busy eating not thinking
[02:29] <skiy> ppcguy: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:29] <skiy> ppcguy: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:29] <pashaw> eZe,   the puter your on now is windows?
[02:29] <Pygi> help: please wait :) a lot of people ask questions, and we can't answer every one if few seconds :P
[02:29] <yaaar> can someone tell me the command to check whether dma is on on a given device?
[02:29] <cosco> pygi : how can i access it in terminal with sudo?
[02:29] <ppcguy> had to be something easy thankx
[02:29] <yaaar> i can't seem to find the flag in the hdparm man page...
[02:29] <eZe> pashaw, i'm on a windows laptop right now
[02:29] <skiy> yaaar: hdparm -d /dev/hda
[02:29] <Pygi> cosco: huh...where do you have ntfs partition mounted? in /media or /mnt?
[02:29] <pashaw> eZe,   ok   in the run box type cmd <enter>  then  ipconfig
[02:29] <yaaar> skiy: cool thanks
[02:30] <Pygi> gnomefreak: renamed? :)
[02:30] <gnomefreak> what is a bareword error?
[02:30] <pashaw> eZe,   tell me the ip address the laptop is using
[02:30] <cosco> in .media
[02:30] <cosco> in /media
[02:30] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i ran sudo rename /etc/motd touch motd
[02:30] <cosco> i can see it in terminal ..
[02:30] <Shadyman> gnomefreak: You shouldnt enter passwords naked.
[02:30] <eZe> pashaw, 192.168.1.100
[02:30] <gnomefreak> it gives me error
[02:30] <gnomefreak> i didnt enter a password
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i didnt mean to
[02:31] <mwe> [help: do a ps aux from the console and make sure no frozen ff processes are running. killall any that might show up
[02:31] <cosco> i type gksuddo .. it says missing command to run .. any suggestions pygi?
[02:31] <Shadyman> gksudo
[02:31] <gnomefreak> cosco, gksudo
[02:31] <pashaw> eZe,   you said ifconfig shows  192.168.1.10   right now?  try it
[02:31] <cosco> yes
[02:31] <Pygi> gnomefreak: lol, wrong command you type :P
[02:31] <cosco> gksudo
[02:31] <cosco> :D
[02:31] <ppcguy> skiy: Get a failure upon start.
[02:32] <Pygi> cosco: no, no :P you need to run nautilus with gksudo so you could access it graphicly :P
[02:32] <eZe> pashaw, in ubuntu? it shows 192.168.1.10
[02:32] <ppcguy> Think a reboot might help?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i also tried it sudo /etc/motd rename touch motd
[02:32] <cosco> Pygi: you killed me :|
[02:32] <cosco> Pygi can u be more specific? im noob
[02:32] <gnomefreak> and that gave me a permission denied
[02:32] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, no, do not write touch motd :P
[02:32] <gnomefreak> ohh
[02:33] <MasterWammy> kernel panick - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
[02:33] <Pygi> touch motd = motd'
[02:33] <MasterWammy> whats that mean?
[02:33] <Pygi> heheh :)
[02:33] <ppcguy> thx for the help. Gonna try something here. brb
[02:33] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhhh
[02:33] <gnomefreak> lo
[02:33] <pashaw> eZe,   try cmd    then  ping 192.168.1.1  on the laptop
[02:33] <Pygi> cosco: huh :/ anybody can please explain to cosco how to run nautilus with gksudo, till I help gnomefreak with linux logo?
[02:33] <Pygi> thanks :P
[02:33] <richardtallent> Installed FF 1.5, but it can't find libstdc++.so.5
[02:33] <Pygi> richard: well, install it :P
[02:33] <eZe> pashaw, 1ms
[02:34] <dooglus> Pygi: why not just run it with sudo?
[02:34] <MasterWammy> any ideas?
[02:34] <mzelem> Hello, anyone know if you can copy picture files to a motorola razr using usb or bluetooth in kubuntu?
[02:34] <pashaw> eZe,   the laptop is wireless right?
[02:34] <cosco> :|
[02:34] <eZe> yes
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Pygi, its not doing anything :(
[02:34] <richardtallent> Pygi: thanks, is that in the package manager or what?
[02:34] <Pygi> dooglus: because running graphical tools with sudo is a bad idea :P if you have to use it, it's safer to use "gksudo"
[02:34] <Pygi> richard: yes
[02:34] <cosco> pygi did it :D had to write gksudo nautilus :D
[02:34] <dooglus> Pygi: what's the difference?
[02:34] <Pygi> gnomefreak: have you renamed it? :/
[02:34] <pashaw> eZe,   then ping 192.168.1.1   should work in ubuntu  unless your cabling is bad
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Pygi, working on it
[02:35] <[help> mwe: thnx i got by end prog and it froze again and opened a new session and it ask me for user so i switched it then
[02:35] <dooglus> Pygi: gksudo is just a gui for sudo, isn't it?
[02:35] <pashaw> eZe,   or the wrong module got loaded   which would be weird
[02:35] <[help> it gave me the right idea
[02:35] <Pygi> dooglus: gksudo is safer to use, but it's just for graphical tasks
[02:35] <Pygi> !gksudo
[02:35] <[help> peace
[02:35] <ubotu> gksudo is, like, Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> ok so im renameing the file motd?
[02:35] <Pygi> yesh, to anything you like
[02:35] <Pygi> then creat the one with touch = motd'
[02:35] <Pygi> cosco: no kidding ;) good :)
[02:36] <MasterWammy> any ideas to my problem/
[02:36] <richardtallent> Pygi: thanks, didn't think it'd be that easy... installing now.
[02:36] <Pygi> Wammy: what seems to be ur problem?
[02:36] <MasterWammy> kernel panick - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
[02:36] <MasterWammy> at boot
[02:36] <Pygi> richard: hehe :)
[02:36] <dooglus> Pygi: gksudo isn't just for graphical tools - it's just a gui for sudo.  for example, 'gksudo touch /tmp/cheese' works
[02:37] <eZe> pashaw, do i have to change anything in the network settings?
[02:37] <Pygi> Wammy: well, obviously it can't mount the partition where "/" is located....
[02:37] <cosco> Pygi
[02:37] <MasterWammy> right, so what can i do to fix it
[02:37] <mwe> dooglus: I wouldn't touch cheese though. I hate it.
[02:37] <cosco> it still doesnt work
[02:37] <Pygi> cosco: yes?
[02:37] <cosco> i try to add some files from hda2( ntfs ) in xmms
[02:37] <cosco> i cant se
[02:37] <cosco> see*
[02:37] <cosco> whats in hda2...
[02:37] <cosco> :|
[02:38] <Pygi> cosco: you mean partition seems empty? or there is no hda2 in nautilus?
[02:38] <dooglus> mwe: you don't like congealed animal fat and mucous?  what's wrong with you?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrr no command i use is working
[02:38] <cosco> Pygi if i look with terminal i see everything
[02:38] <Pygi> cosco: huh, oh, yes, you will need to run xmms with gksudo so you could see that files :P
[02:38] <cosco> if i look with gksudo nautilus i see it
[02:38] <MasterWammy> Pygi, so how could i fix this?
[02:38] <cosco> if i look normaly i dont see it
[02:38] <pashaw> eZe,  that should have worked so you got me
[02:38] <Pygi> cosco: look up
[02:38] <cosco> Pygi cant i do something to see it normally without gksudo`ing everything?
[02:39] <Pygi> cosco: not really :)
[02:39] <cosco> bullshit
[02:39] <eZe> pashaw, is there anything else i could try?
[02:39] <cosco> i did it once .. 1 year ago
[02:39] <Pygi> cosco: sometimes you use "sudo" as well :)
[02:39] <cosco> but i forgot how
[02:39] <Pygi> Wammy: do you have /home on other partition?
[02:39] <ITSa341> bbiab
[02:39] <pashaw> eZe, a different liveCD like say knoppix  see if that works automatic
[02:40] <Pygi> cosco: well, you could change permissions of your user thought :/
[02:40] <MasterWammy> Pygi, nah
[02:40] <cosco> Pygi: xmms not working..
[02:40] <cosco> cant play files in hda2
[02:40] <eZe> pashaw, alright, i'll throw knoppix in
[02:40] <Pygi> Wammy: huh, that's not a good idea...
[02:40] <Pygi> cosco: can't see them, or can't play them???
[02:40] <cosco> cant play them
[02:40] <MasterWammy> Pygi, i just compiled a .14 kernel so i could use a new driver, been 2 times i compiled it with different erros each time.
[02:40] <ispiked> is there a wiki page on how to format a cd-rw?
[02:40] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh? any luck ? :/
[02:41] <cosco> Pygi help help help :>
[02:41] <mwe> MasterWammy: what is the driver that wont work with a 2.6.12 kernel?
[02:41] <Pygi> Wammy: don't know what to suggest you....recover data with Live CD, and reinstall system..... on the other hand, use other partition for /home ALWAYS :P
[02:41] <MasterWammy> it821x
[02:41] <Pygi> cosco: try to run xmms with "sudo" ....
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i made the new one but the old one i cant seem to move :(
[02:42] <MasterWammy> Pygi, data isnt lost, just my kernel that i built wont run
[02:42] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :/
[02:42] <cosco> Couldnt open audio
[02:42] <cosco> same error
[02:42] <cosco> :|
[02:42] <Pygi> cosco: well, so you see files?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ok mv /etc/motd (newname) didnt work
[02:42] <cosco> yess
[02:42] <cosco> its about the ntfs partition
[02:42] <Pygi> cosco: the problem might be cause you don't have codecs :P
[02:42] <eZe> pashaw, should i try ping first?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> but touch motd worked
[02:43] <pashaw> eZe,   with what?
[02:43] <richardtallent> thanks, FF now up to speed.
[02:43] <eZe> pashaw, knoppix
[02:43] <cosco> Pygi let me try copy a .mp3 to a normal partition and see if xmms plays the mp3 then
[02:43] <Pygi> cosco: no, it won't play mp3 :P
[02:43] <richardtallent> giving up for the day, have a desktop, a browser, and a net connection. What else could anyone need? ;)
[02:43] <pashaw> eZe,  should just connect  with browser  but you can test with ping  wont hyurt anything
[02:43] <Pygi> cosco:  you need CODECS :)
[02:43] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[02:43] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[02:44] <Pygi> !mp3
[02:44] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:44] <Pygi> ubotu: tell cosco about mp3
[02:44] <eZe> pashaw, unreachable
[02:44] <eZe> weird
[02:44] <dooglus> cosco: did you try mounting the ntfs partition with a different umask so you can read it?
[02:44] <Pygi> dooglus: he can read it , but ubuntu can't play mp3 by default :P
[02:45] <pashaw> eZe,  with knoppix also?
[02:45] <eZe> yes
[02:45] <dooglus> Pygi: so what was all that running nautilus as root stuff about?
[02:45] <pashaw> eZe,   then your hardware is probably setup wrong  unless you using something brand spankin new
[02:45] <Pygi> dooglus: well, he couldn't see it before :P
[02:45] <cosco> dooglus no
[02:45] <eZe> what can i do about it?
[02:46] <cosco> Pygi ... if I copy it i dont get the error it just doesnt start playing it
[02:46] <cosco> i think dooglus  is right.. its something about mounting
[02:46] <dooglus> Pygi: he can only see the files on his ntfs partition if he is root?
[02:46] <Pygi> cosco:huh, ok, but you still need codecs....
[02:46] <eZe> pashaw, btw, windows on that computer can connect to the internet (other partition)
[02:46] <dooglus> Pygi: the solution to that is to mount the ntfs partition properly, not to run nautilus as root.
[02:46] <cosco> Pygi, i dont need codecs to play an mp3 .. i need to mount the partition corect
[02:47] <Pygi> cosco: you need both :)
[02:47] <Shadyman> cosco: You need both
[02:47] <cosco> lol
[02:47] <dooglus> Pygi: you need codecs to play mp3 files too
[02:47] <cosco> well i never installed codecs before
[02:47] <Pygi> dooglus: I am saying that all the time :P
[02:47] <Pygi> well, cosco :P
[02:47] <Pygi> ubotu: tell cosco about ntfs
[02:47] <dooglus> cosco: you've played mp3s in ubuntu before?
[02:47] <Pygi> ubotu: tell cosco about mp3
[02:47] <cosco> dooglus, yes , but on other install.. :D
[02:48] <cosco> dooglus, private pls
[02:48] <Pygi> cosco: ubotu just messaged you with the link how to mount NTFS properly :P
[02:48] <cosco> :)
[02:49] <Pygi> and how to install mp3
[02:49] <Shadyman> !mp3
[02:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:49] <Pygi> Shady: huh, ubotu already pm-ed him :P
[02:49] <Shadyman> Pygi: Oh,i totally missed that
[02:49] <cosco> Pygi im not that pro.. :|
[02:50] <cosco> dooglus,  can u answer my query?
[02:50] <lampshade> If I simply install xmms via apt, will it be able to play mp3's by default or do I have to implement some work around?
[02:50] <Pygi> cosco: why do you need to be pro? :/
[02:50] <Pygi> ubotu: tell lampshade about mp3
[02:50] <cosco> Pygi... to complicated for me
[02:50] <cosco> scripts and stuff
[02:50] <Pygi> cosco: huh :/
[02:50] <cosco> :|
[02:50] <Pygi> lampshade: ubotu pm-ed you
[02:51] <eZe> pashaw, are there any known problems with ubuntu and asrock mobos?
[02:51] <pashaw> eZe,  asrock?   wow never even heard of them   what model
[02:52] <cosco> Pygi :\
[02:52] <eZe> 939 dual sata2
[02:52] <Pygi> cosco: yes, how may I help you? :)
[02:52] <eZe> asrock is owned by asus
[02:52] <cosco> Pygi read the private message
[02:52] <cosco> :)
[02:52] <Pygi> cosco: heh, got no pm :/
[02:53] <cosco> Pygi.. if i create u an user.. can u make this for me?
[02:53] <Shadyman> !mpe
[02:53] <ubotu> Shadyman: What?
[02:53] <Shadyman> !mp3
[02:53] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:53] <Shadyman> Pygi: Go there
[02:53] <Pygi> Shady: we did this 30 times already :P
[02:53] <Pygi> Shady: why should I go there?
[02:53] <Shadyman> Pygi: Because that has the codecs for mp3
[02:53] <Pygi> cosco: huh :/
[02:53] <Pygi> Shady: well, why would I need mp3 codecs?
[02:54] <Shadyman> pygi: To play mp3s
[02:54] <pashaw> eZe,   checking for other users
[02:54] <Pygi> Shady: huh, I never asked for mp3 codecs :P
[02:54] <cosco> :/
[02:54] <cosco> lool
[02:54] <Shadyman> Pygi: I meant cosco, then.
[02:54] <Shadyman> cosco: Go there.
[02:54] <Shadyman> lol
[02:54] <cosco> Pygi common ...
[02:54] <mwe> same thing
[02:54] <Pygi> Shady: ubotu pm-ed him like 10 times already :p
[02:54] <cosco> go there :)))
[02:54] <Pygi> cosco: common?
[02:54] <eZe> pashaw, maybe i have to install a driver?
[02:54] <Pygi> cosco: go where??
[02:54] <mwe> are you all drunk or what?
[02:54] <ruaraidh> I have a little problem with dpkg and gstreamer...
[02:54] <Shadyman> mwe: Yes.
[02:55] <cosco> Pygi in my machine and make the hda2 ( ntfs )
[02:55] <mwe> heh
[02:55] <Pygi> cosco: do I have to? :/
[02:55] <cosco> pygi yes..
[02:55] <cosco> im too noob to do it myself
[02:55] <cosco> :|
[02:55] <pashaw> eZe,   yep  that explains it a quick google  shows that realtek nic is too new    need to download the drivers from the manufacturer
[02:55] <ruaraidh> I tried to install gstreamer with synaptic, and it didn't work, ank I quit...
[02:55] <ruaraidh> *and
[02:55] <Pygi> !ntfs
[02:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[02:55] <cosco> please dont be that evil to tell me that im learning if i read the site
[02:55] <pashaw> eZe,   which is pointless if your running a liveCD
[02:56] <Pygi> cosco: hehe, I ain't evil :P
[02:56] <cosco> pls? :|
[02:56] <ruaraidh> and now running dpkg --configure -a just hangs!
[02:56] <ruaraidh> any help?
[02:56] <eZe> pashaw, but possible?
[02:56] <Pygi> cosco: just a second please, gnomefreak has a empty /bin  hehe :)
[02:56] <pashaw> eZe,   you wold have to reinstall it everytime your rebooted
[02:56] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:56] <eZe> pashaw, i'm gonna install ubuntu as soon as everything works fine
[02:56] <cosco> but i want you pygi :D
[02:57] <Pygi> cosco: well, he has to find his /bin first :P
[02:57] <ruaraidh> anyone?
[02:57] <Knowerrors> When I run FF from the comman line, I get firefox INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory? System error?:: Success, and it doesn't load, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling, still nada, can anyone help?
[02:57] <cosco> :o
[02:57] <demona> Heh. i got dvdrip and gyach and all these other funky packages working in breezey, yet my remaining problems are stumpers.. microphone not working, and more importantly, can't seem to mount more than one remot samba share.
[02:57] <pashaw> eZe,   heres the network card on the motherboard  RTL8201CL     an easy solution would be to get a 10$ nic and add it  until you install the realtek driver so onboard works
[02:57] <calic> olas penya
[02:57] <ruaraidh> I tried to install gstreamer with synaptic, and it didn't work, and I quit...
[02:58] <cosco> so ?
[02:58] <cosco> :-?
[02:58] <Pygi> gnome: any luck in #debian
[02:58] <calic> TOTS PARLEU AMB INGLES???????
[02:58] <ruaraidh> and I need to run dpkg --configure -a, but it just hangs!
[02:58] <Pygi> cosco: can you please be patient? thanks :)
[02:58] <calic> HELLOW
[02:58] <gnomefreak> my bin maybe empty but for some reason his command worked :(
[02:58] <ruaraidh> any help much appreciated...
[02:59] <Pygi> calic: hello
[02:59] <Pygi> gnomefreak: whose command?
[02:59] <calic> WATS IORUN NAME?
[02:59] <ruaraidh> seriously here...
[02:59] <gnomefreak> peters
[02:59] <cosco> Pygi im in the waitline
[02:59] <pashaw> eZe,  i see that board has gotten some nice reviews     be another year or 2 before i try 64bit tho
[02:59] <gnomefreak> i was typing everything but linux_logo
[02:59] <calic> MY NAME IS SERGI
[02:59] <Pygi> calis: speak english....
[02:59] <calic> NO
[02:59] <calic> JJIJIJIJ
[02:59] <sleepsleep> hi room
[02:59] <Pygi> Seveas: ping...
[02:59] <sleepsleep> is that possible somebody assist me with a problem?
[03:00] <Xenguy> !ask
[03:00] <calic> YOU MY FRIENDS
[03:00] <ruaraidh> any help at all...?
[03:00] <eZe> pashaw, you say that i have to install the realtek driver, but isn't realtek the onboard sound?
[03:00] <cosco> Pygi i really wanna play music :x pls
[03:00] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, maybe dapper has broken package or somethin' :/
[03:00] <Pygi> cosco: you'll play it :P
[03:00] <ruaraidh> please?
[03:00] <raymond> i still dont under stand thin install thing
[03:00] <gnomefreak> dont know :)
[03:00] <cosco> Pygi common its the new year .. be more jumping
[03:00] <pashaw> eZe,   sound Realtek 850 7.1 channel AC'97 audio codec  LAN   Realtek RTL8201CL 10/100 Ethernet LAN PHY
[03:00] <cosco> :>
[03:00] <sleepsleep> sorry, but is that possible for me to ask a question regarding bit torrent at this room?
[03:00] <Pygi> gnome: what are dependencies if any on dapper?
[03:01] <ruaraidh> Is anybody able and willing to help me?
[03:01] <Pygi> sleep: if connected with ubuntu....
[03:01] <eZe> pashaw, oh :D
[03:01] <demona> i have one samba mount successfully, but can't mount any others from the same machine with or without credentials. it gives no error msg, but then just sits there when i try to ls the mounted share, until i abort it.
[03:01] <Pygi> ruaraidh: as you see a lot of people need help, so please wait in the line :) thank you :)
[03:01] <sleepsleep> i guess, maybe some how connected, is that possible, Pygi
[03:01] <pashaw> eZe,   its always tough to use the newest equpment with an version of Linux
[03:01] <raymond> i dont understand this install thing
[03:01] <Pygi> sleep: yes...
[03:01] <gnomefreak> brb gonna try something
[03:01] <Pygi> freak: k
[03:01] <pashaw> eZe,   type i ment *any
[03:02] <sleepsleep> is that possible to add (new tracker) on existing torrent file?
[03:02] <cosco> ruaraidh, im in front of you :> muwahaha :D :P :) :> :S
[03:02] <adsfdasfother> is there an music player that has the whole media library type thing that Itunes and Winamp have?  Where you can select a genre, or an album and see only those songs from your collection?
[03:02] <pashaw> sleepsleep,   i wont help you pirate,  but i will ask for the link if it works  :P
[03:02] <Pygi> sleep: in azureus yes, but in regular BitTorrent included in Ubuntu I think no.......
[03:03] <sleepsleep> omg, that is not pirate :( it is public domain works
[03:03] <limit223> cheers, people ...so crowed here...:)
[03:03] <Christians4GNT2> happy new year
[03:03] <pashaw> sleepsleep,   im kidding
[03:03] <Pygi> limit: true :/
[03:03] <sleepsleep> the situation is,
[03:03] <cosco> Pygi!
[03:03] <cosco> :)
[03:03] <sleepsleep> i use uTorrent to create a torrent file
[03:03] <demona> adsfdasfother: amaroK supposedly has a decent music library type thingy but i havent played with it yet
[03:03] <Pygi> cosco: yes???
[03:03] <sleepsleep> but the tracker i put is http://tracker.prq.to/announce
[03:03] <cosco> Pygi forgot me? :D
[03:03] <sleepsleep> but some how, this http://tracker.prq.to/announce is a bad tracker
[03:03] <pashaw> sleepsleep,   your better off using google for that answer tho   unless you get really lucky
[03:03] <raymond> can someone help me understand this install thing
[03:03] <Pygi> cosco: no :P
[03:03] <sleepsleep> always off line
[03:04] <cosco> Pygi ok hurry up then :P :) :D
[03:04] <sleepsleep> (i tried google arealdy, no releveant info)
[03:04] <Shadyman> cosco: LOL
[03:04] <cosco> Shadyman? :>
[03:04] <jovan> how do i install programs on ubuntu?
[03:04] <sleepsleep> so i try to seek help on irc
[03:04] <Pygi> cosco: ok, have you made me the account with sudo priviliges?
[03:04] <eZe> pashaw, http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/phyDesc.aspx , hm?
[03:04] <raymond> i cant install shit on here
[03:04] <cosco> Pygi first u might like to tell me how
[03:04] <Pygi> jovan: on tree ways :) easiest to use : Applications --> Add applications :P
[03:04] <cosco> :)
[03:05] <Pygi> cosco: huh...lemme guess...you haven't even opened shell server :P
[03:05] <sleepsleep> so anyone of ya, know how to replace or add new tracker on existing released torrent file ? ... not mean to push
[03:05] <cosco> Pygi yup you guessed :D
[03:05] <bunty_sound> hey guys, any sound experts?
[03:05] <cosco> isnt it opened by start?
[03:05] <cosco> i mean...
[03:05] <McJerry> jovan: one of several ways, but since you are asking, Synaptic or terminal apt-get install
[03:05] <cosco> hm
[03:05] <bunty_sound> need help with asla
[03:05] <bunty_sound> alsa
[03:05] <Pygi> cosco: huh, just a moment pls
[03:06] <sda3mon> can anyone tell me what package mpg321 is in?
[03:06] <cosco> ssh: connect to host wow.cosco.ro port 22: Connection refused
[03:06] <cafuego> !info mpg321
[03:06] <cosco> :) :D :> :P :) :> :D :P
[03:06] <ubotu> mpg321: (A Free command-line mp3 player, compatible with mpg123), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.2.10.3 (breezy), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[03:06] <jovan> i download a .tar.gz file and i dont know how to install it
[03:06] <Pygi> cosco: huh, then install shell server or whatever and open i t  :P
[03:06] <raymond> me to
[03:07] <cosco> Pygi, ok , i try
[03:07] <ruaraidh> jovan: "tar xzvf foo.tar.gz"...
[03:07] <raymond> HOW DO YOU INSTALL STUFF ON HERE
[03:07] <jovan> what?
[03:07] <ruaraidh> from command line
[03:07] <ruaraidh> jovan: "tar xzvf foo.tar.gz"...
[03:07] <Shadyman> raymond: That was already answered.
[03:07] <jovan> ok
[03:07] <Pygi> raymond: stop it, we answered already :P
[03:07] <Pygi> raymond: stop using Caps
[03:07] <ruaraidh> jovan: "cd foo/"...
[03:07] <cosco> Pygi i installed it how do i start it?
[03:07] <ruaraidh> jovan: "./configure"...
[03:08] <Eleaf> HI
[03:08] <ruaraidh> jovan: "sudo make"...
[03:08] <jovan> should i put the file in that directory?
[03:08] <ruaraidh> jovan: "sudo make install"
[03:08] <Shadyman> Raymond: easiest to use : Applications --> Add applications :P
[03:08] <raymond> thanks
[03:08] <ruaraidh> the extracted tar file will go into a directory of its name automatically
[03:08] <eZe> pashaw, asrock only offers .exe drivers, any other way to install it?
[03:08] <cosco> Pygi!! dont die on me :D:D:D:D how do i start the shell server? i installed it
[03:08] <ruaraidh> when I say "foo" I mean the name of the file
[03:08] <Pygi> /usr/bin/ssh-server  or somethin'
[03:08] <Pygi> BenC: save me :P
[03:09] <ruaraidh> jovan: that should work
[03:09] <ruaraidh> jovan: you might get errors, about libraries that are needed
[03:09] <cosco> Pygi doesnt work that way
[03:09] <Pygi> huh, use "whereis ssh" and find the location of ssh server
[03:09] <McJerry> cosco: what shell server did you install? open-ssh
[03:10] <ruaraidh> jovan: any luck?
[03:10] <cosco> yes
[03:10] <cosco> open-ssh
[03:10] <McJerry> /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:10] <pashaw> eZe,   my advice   use an old 10$ card til you get up and running   then learn to install the realtek stuff
[03:10] <cosco> McJerry /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:10] <mebsd> where do i get a small iso installation cd
[03:10] <cosco> root@cosco:/# /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:10] <cosco>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[03:10] <cosco> root@cosco:/#
[03:10] <cosco> failed
[03:11] <Pygi> Jerry: sudo maybe? :p
[03:11] <spacey_ki> take a look in the logs
[03:11] <spacey_ki> :)
[03:11] <McJerry> yes sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:11] <Pygi> hehe :)
[03:11] <McJerry> tx Pygi
[03:11] <Pygi> yw
[03:11] <cosco> root@cosco:/# sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[03:11] <cosco>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[03:11] <cosco> root@cosco:/#
[03:11] <cosco> same
[03:11] <McJerry> i forget as i keep one terminal open as su root
[03:11] <pashaw> !pastebin
[03:11] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:11] <spacey_ki> cosco, you don't need sudo when your root
[03:11] <cosco> im su root
[03:11] <spacey_ki> ;)
[03:12] <cosco> spacey i know
[03:12] <spacey_ki> take a look in /var/log
[03:12] <McJerry> then you got another issue
[03:12] <cosco> but they said sudo :D
[03:12] <[1] justin> ...
[03:12] <McJerry> how did you install open-ssh?
[03:12] <Pygi> cosco: well, you haven't said ur su root :P
[03:12] <spacey_ki> cosco, to McJerry
[03:12] <mebsd> cosco: you need to create sshd keys
[03:12] <spacey_ki> ;)
[03:12] <[1] justin> now the installer is messing up on the kernel install
[03:12] <eZe> pashaw, alright, i'll do something like that, thanks :)
[03:12] <cosco> pm
[03:12] <cosco> om
[03:12] <spacey_ki> Pygi, he had root@ ;)
[03:12] <mebsd> cosco: /etc/init.d/ssh help
[03:12] <cosco> ok
[03:12] <cosco> im lost
[03:12] <cosco> :|
[03:13] <Pygi> spacey: huh, didn't look :P
[03:13] <pashaw> cosco,   type   ps -ale | grep sshd
[03:13] <McJerry> cosco: pm on this one not necessary, you got several here trying to help you
[03:13] <mebsd> cosco: yo need to create 64-bit encripted handshake before you can start ssh server
[03:13] <pashaw> cosco,   its probably already running
[03:13] <cosco> root@cosco:/var/log# ps -ale | grep sshd
[03:13] <cosco> 5 S     0 11008     1  0  85   0 -   885 -      ?        00:00:00 sshd
[03:13] <cosco> root@cosco:/var/log#
[03:13] <mebsd> so it's running you dumbass
[03:13] <fredforfaen> i just got evacuated cus of a fire in a building near by...scary shit
[03:13] <Pygi> heheheh :)
[03:13] <cosco> McJerry i wanned to write ok not pm im nervous and lost lol
[03:13] <McJerry> cosco: how did you install openssh?
[03:13] <spacey_ki> cosco, /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:13] <cosco> mcjerry with synaptic
[03:14] <bunty_sound> help with m-audio sound card?
[03:14] <cosco> ok its restarted
[03:14] <cosco> :D
[03:14] <cosco> thank you guys
[03:14] <cosco> Pygi are you ready?
[03:14] <Pygi> cosco: now make me an account....
[03:14] <mebsd> where can i dl ubuntu iso!
[03:14] <Pygi> cosco: sudo adduser pygi admin
[03:14] <McJerry> cosco: then it was working to begin with
[03:14] <Pygi> and then assign me a password
[03:14] <Ainvar> on a 60 gig drive in a laptop what would be a good partition outlay for ubuntu? no other os's will be on the drive
[03:14] <ruaraidh> mebsd: www.google.com
[03:14] <Pygi> and then send me the pass in private message
[03:14] <cosco> root@cosco:/var/log# adduser pygi admin
[03:14] <cosco> adduser: The user `pygi' does not exist.
[03:14] <cosco> lol
[03:14] <Pygi> cosco: huh, yes, you need to add user first :p
[03:14] <McJerry> cosco: do you have another computer on the lan?
[03:15] <Pygi> ok, without the admin :P
[03:15] <cosco> Mcjerry no
[03:15] <Pygi> ainvar: 20 root, 40 home?
[03:15] <pashaw> Ainvar,   8G /    1G swap   10G /home    the rest add later when you find a need
[03:15] <Pygi> pashaw: huh, empty space? :/
[03:15] <sda3mon> i still can't find mpg321/123
[03:15] <dragoon> Ainvar,  a small /boot partition, swap, 10G /, and /home for all else.
[03:15] <mebsd> cosco is newbie lol
[03:15] <pashaw> Pygi,   you dont have to use it all at once
[03:15] <cosco> Pygi password pygi .. ure admin ... wow.cosco.ro
[03:15] <cosco> mebsd : i am :|
[03:16] <Ainvar> k cause I finally got my 2nd drive for the laptop and I want to have a dedicated drive for ubuntu :)
[03:16] <pashaw> Pygi,  with extra space you can make an area to tar to
[03:16] <Pygi> cosco: no, don't write pass here :P
[03:16] <Ainvar> sweet thanks for the suggestions
[03:16] <mebsd> cosco: what you trying to do
[03:16] <bunty_sound> help on alsa sound pls?
[03:16] <Pygi> bunty: wait in line pls...thanks
[03:16] <cosco> mebsd : listen some kmusic... :| but cant play it
[03:16] <cosco> pygi just go for it
[03:16] <cosco> :D
[03:16] <mebsd> cosco: so what that has anytinhg to do with ssh?
[03:16] <Pygi> mebsd: like ntfs won't mount :/ lemme go se....
[03:16] <pashaw> Pyq you handing out numbers for the folks  :P
[03:16] <cosco> mebsd.. pygi trying to set my partition so i can add music in xmms then set the codecs
[03:16] <cosco> lol
[03:17] <cosco> long story :D
[03:17] <McJerry> i think he wants someone to shell in and et things up
[03:17] <mebsd> he will delete your everything
[03:17] <Pygi> pashaw: huh :P
[03:17] <cosco> MCjerry :) thats true
[03:17] <Pygi> yes, I am a well known hacker :)
[03:17] <pashaw> Pygi,   kidding :)
[03:17] <demona> LOL
[03:17] <demona> i figured out samba, anyway
[03:17] <cosco> mebsd... :|
[03:17] <cosco> stop scaring me
[03:17] <cosco> :D
[03:17] <McJerry> we are all hackers! the lot of us......but only a few are crackers
[03:18] <sda3mon> is there a package available through apt that has mpg321??? i can't find it, my debian install has it already
[03:18] <mebsd> cosco: what's your user/pass, i'll help you
[03:18] <cosco> lol
[03:18] <demona> kept wondering why this one samba share wouldn't mount from my linux server. i'd forgotten that i had mounted a directory THERE, on the WINDOWS machine, under that same directory.. but this machine is in ubuntu now, not windows. DOH!
[03:18] <cosco> :|
[03:18] <cosco> not funny
[03:18] <demona> recursive network failure
[03:19] <Pygi> cosco: says wrong pass :p what have you been doin'? :P
[03:19] <cosco> nothing
[03:19] <cosco> gmm
[03:19] <cosco> dont u have pm?
[03:19] <McJerry> cosco: question, you said you trying to play music? do you get other system sounds already?
[03:19] <chocobo> Is there a way to get a list of packages on Ubuntu?
[03:20] <ruaraidh> chocobo: what do you mean exactly?
[03:20] <metho> hello
[03:20] <Pygi> cosco: huh, you will have to rename the user pygi to mario :P
[03:20] <cosco> Pygi
[03:20] <cosco> i wrote you in porivate
[03:20] <johndarkhorse> chocobo: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:20] <cosco> cant u see?
[03:20] <chocobo> OK, sorry.   Like with Debian you can go to a webpage and look at all the of packages available to install.
[03:20] <mebsd> he means a list of packages on ubuntu, ruaraidh
[03:20] <cosco> McJerry yes i hear other system sounds
[03:20] <chocobo> thanks :)
[03:20] <Pygi> cosco: I didn't got your message :P
[03:20] <metho> hello
[03:21] <cosco> but i cant see a ntfs partitions only in terminal .. so i cant add music in xmms
[03:21] <ruaraidh> lol, mebsd :)
[03:21] <mebsd> chocobo: you betray archlinux?
[03:21] <sda3mon> in gnome you can go to Applications->Add Applications
[03:21] <cosco> pygi join #chat.with.pigy
[03:21] <pashaw> sda3mon,  did you  apt-cache search mpg321
[03:21] <sda3mon> pashaw: yea i did, only lists xmms
[03:21] <mebsd> can i install kde instead of gnome in ubuutu
[03:21] <sda3mon> er nothing
[03:21] <mebsd> chocobo: you betray archlinux?
[03:21] <McJerry> cosco: what program? xmms? and are you using alsa and what soundcard? and what file format you trying to listen too?
[03:21] <chocobo> mebsd, I love archlinux but it isn't.... very scientifically oriented.
[03:21] <chocobo> :)
[03:21] <McJerry> cosco: what version of ubuntu?
[03:22] <pashaw> sda3mon,  thats odd   you shoukldnt need them but have to added universe multiverse?
[03:22] <chocobo> There are a lot of packages missing that I really need (SPICE, pcb, EDA)
[03:22] <pashaw> sda3mon,   err i ment  but have you
[03:22] <mebsd> chocobo: what you mean
[03:22] <cosco> Mc Jery 5.10 i guess
[03:22] <sda3mon> pashaw: no idea, explain a little please
[03:22] <cosco> trying to listen .mp3
[03:22] <ruaraidh> How far am I in the queue here? ;)
[03:22] <cosco> mp3 located in ntfs partition
[03:22] <pashaw> !tell sda3mon about repos
[03:23] <cosco> and i think ntfs partition isnt mounted corect
[03:23] <chocobo> mebsd, pacman -S ngspice doesnt work in Arch :)
[03:23] <Shadyman> cosco: If you can see the mp3 files, it's mounted just fine.
[03:23] <McJerry> don't guess, know, what ver? in cmd line type uname -r
[03:23] <metho> i cannot install mplayer for some reasons!
[03:23] <limit223> ok...I thought everyone here is drunk...I'm sorry...feel ashamed..:))..promise I won't spamm this chat... Happy New Year!!
[03:23] <cosco> shady i cant see it
[03:23] <cosco> i see them only in terminal
[03:23] <Pygi> shady: I tried telling him that :P
[03:23] <cosco> in normal interface i cant see it
[03:23] <McJerry> cosco: when did you install ubuntu?
[03:23] <cosco> in xmms cant see it either
[03:23] <pashaw> metho,   you want kde?
[03:23] <cosco> mcjerry today
[03:23] <cosco> 2 hours ago
[03:23] <cosco> maybe 3
[03:24] <metho> no i am using gnome
[03:24] <pashaw> metho,   sorry  name  spelled close to person asking
[03:24] <metho> pashaw, i am using gnome
[03:24] <pashaw> mebsd,   you want kde?
[03:24] <mebsd> pashaw: yah i like kde more than gnome
[03:24] <ruaraidh> mebsd: BURN HIM!
[03:24] <pashaw> mebsd,   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <ruaraidh> ;)
[03:25] <McJerry> cosco: instead of having your machine open to the public why don't you download te Automatix script and let it install all the stuff you will need?
[03:25] <mebsd> that'll give me gnome
[03:25] <pashaw> mebsd,   ahh no kde
[03:25] <mebsd> why no kde
[03:25] <metho> could some1 help me to install mplayer
[03:25] <mebsd> kde is good
[03:25] <pashaw> mebsd,    that command gives you kde
[03:25] <metho> i am using ubuntu gnome
[03:26] <spacey_ki> metho, its in multiverse
[03:26] <metho> whats that
[03:26] <spacey_ki> add that repository and you can install it with synaptic
[03:26] <pashaw> !tell metho about mplayer
[03:26] <metho> spacey, whats that
[03:26] <spacey_ki> !multiverse
[03:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[03:26] <ruaraidh> Would anyone be offended if I asked again?
[03:26] <ruaraidh> I tried to install gstreamer with synaptic, and it didn't work, and I quit...
[03:26] <eric_> I have ubuntu but I installed xbuntu and kubuntu desktop to try them out but I think I like gnome better and I want to delete the other set-up how do I do that?
[03:26] <cosco> McJerry what are you talking about? what automatix script?
[03:26] <AceTech> can someone point me in the right direction to remove the menu in gnome for Transgaming.... the applications show up under the Transgaming and Games menu
[03:26] <ruaraidh> and I need to run dpkg --configure -a, but it just hangs!
[03:27] <pashaw> McJerry,   please dont recommend thatscript
[03:27] <Shadyman> McJerry: It's evil.
[03:27] <McJerry> pashaw i have no problems with it on the 5.10 install
[03:27] <metho> thanks guys!!, i'll try and come back with the results,,, see u later!!!!
[03:27] <pashaw> !automatix
[03:27] <ubotu> I heard automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:28] <cello_rasp> !tell cello_rasp about mplayer
[03:28] <AceTech> is there a GUI program for gnome menu modification?
[03:28] <Iga> hi, does anybody have already had an "Debootstrap" error while installing an Ubuntu system?
[03:28] <McJerry> and since he has a fresh install and is already broadcasting everything here inviting the public into his server that script will do him no more harm
[03:28] <LittleDrummerBoy> Hi
[03:29] <eric_> can anyone help me restore Ubuntu gnome, I want to delete xfce and kde version
[03:29] <marshall_> r
[03:29] <pashaw> McJerry,   you can pm him about it  just dont   recommend it here please, thx
[03:29] <LittleDrummerBoy> Can anyone help me with the arrow keys. They're not working!
[03:29] <ruaraidh> does anyone have any idea how to force dpkg/apt to drop the installation of a package without dpkg -a --configure?
[03:29] <ruaraidh> clarification on request
[03:29] <mebsd> can i use ubuntu like debian?
[03:29] <ruaraidh> me tired...
[03:29] <pashaw> mebsd,   not sure   what do you mean like debian
[03:30] <LittleDrummerBoy> It's so annoying not being able to move on text to correct an error because the left and right arrow keys do not work
[03:30] <david_m_e> Seveas ... i tried as hard as i could to figure out apt, Synaptic, etc.. but i must admit it escapes me; i download Opera for Linux from Operas website to my Desktop; I now have a file called 'opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb' on my desktop; but for the life of me i cannot figure out how to install it; i tried pointing Synaptic to it, i extracted it to 'opera extractioin' on my Desktop, and then tried Synaptic again; n
[03:30] <david_m_e> othing worked
[03:30] <mebsd> pashaw: apt-get install everything
[03:30] <McJerry> otherwise if he doesn't want to use the script, he can look up Automatix in the ubuntu forums and see a listing of the likely programs he will need to install via Synptic or otherwise
[03:30] <pashaw> mebsd,   yep
[03:30] <AceTech> eric_: you could prob type apt-get remove xfce and apt-get remove kubuntu... but i am not sure how safe it is
[03:30] <McJerry> common sense
[03:30] <LittleDrummerBoy> My left and right arrow keys do not work in any program
[03:30] <pashaw> McJerry,   im just asking you not to recommend it here please
[03:30] <Pygi> huh, what you did to me this time....my system froze :/
[03:30] <ruaraidh> david_m_e: sudo dpkg -i packagename
[03:30] <LittleDrummerBoy> not even in the terminal
[03:30] <eric_> well i already have gnome version installed but I wanted to try the other versions and don't like them
[03:30] <Iga> can anyone help me ? I can't install beither Hoary, nor Breezy
[03:31] <cosco> Pygi :|
[03:31] <david_m_e> ruaraidh: execute that while in the Desktop directory?
[03:31] <ruaraidh> yes
[03:31] <eric_> I used synaptic to uninstall but it didn't get rid of it
[03:31] <Pygi> cosco: you are trying to hack me, I am sure of that :P
[03:31] <david_m_e> thanks
[03:31] <salah> My Java applications can't be shown properly in Ubuntu, any suggestion? I am making the applications by my self, and Java can't even show a dialog box right...
[03:31] <LittleDrummerBoy> does anyone have any idea why the <-- and --> keys are not working...
[03:31] <cosco> lol?
[03:31] <cosco> i am trying to hack you by giving you full access to my computer/
[03:31] <cosco> intresting
[03:31] <cvt|gnuyear> happy GNUyear
[03:31] <Pygi> I am joking :P
[03:31] <ruaraidh> that work, david_m_e?
[03:32] <Shadyman> cosco: wtf?
[03:32] <concept10> eric_, to restore the gnome desktop, install ubuntu desktop, to get kde off uninstall libqt3
[03:32] <Pygi> cosco: please open that room again, and gimme the url
[03:32] <AceTech> is there a gnome menu editing program for the gnome menu?
[03:32] <david_m_e> ruaraidh: had to answer call from my wife; to go try now... brb
[03:32] <cosco> Pygi???
[03:32] <McJerry> as i said, common sense dictates he can go to that script and see a listing of likely programs he will need.......discussion or not its on the Ubuntu forum
[03:32] <LittleDrummerBoy> please help
[03:32] <Pygi> cosco: url of ur computer
[03:32] <cosco> Shadyman i grated him access to my pc to help me mount that partition corectly
[03:32] <Pygi> that *.ru or somethin'
[03:32] <LittleDrummerBoy> does any know why the ARROW DIRECTIONAL keys are not working
[03:32] <Shadyman> cosco: Ok.
[03:32] <cosco> and he thinks im trying to hack him
[03:32] <cosco> Pygi
[03:32] <Pygi> cosco: well, my computer froze :)
[03:32] <cosco> i dont trust you anymore
[03:33] <ruaraidh> LDB: where aren't they working?
[03:33] <Pygi> cosco: huh, k
[03:33] <cosco> :|
[03:33] <eric_> ok thanks, have any idea on how to uninstall xbuntu
[03:33] <ruaraidh> vi, ubuntu, other OSes?
[03:33] <LittleDrummerBoy> they're not working nowhere
[03:33] <Iga> could anyone help me please?!
[03:33] <pashaw> McJerry,   common sense is i asked you to please respect the channel ops  request that it not be recommended
[03:33] <Pygi> eric: throught synaptic?
[03:33] <ruaraidh> LDB: are you dual-booting?
[03:33] <Pygi> cosco: huh, what I did so you dont trust me?
[03:33] <LittleDrummerBoy> no
[03:33] <McJerry> cosco: another question: is this your first linux install?
[03:33] <LittleDrummerBoy> I just have ubuntu
[03:33] <LittleDrummerBoy> breezy
[03:33] <ruaraidh> can you try a livecd?
[03:33] <LittleDrummerBoy> nothing else
[03:33] <cosco> McJerry no ... but im noob
[03:34] <cosco> Pygi .. sayin to me im trying to hack u
[03:34] <McJerry> I see no channel ops request
[03:34] <Pygi> cosco: huh, I was joking :P
[03:34] <pashaw> !automatix
[03:34] <eric_> I tried that but when i log in and choose session the option for xfce is still available and it will still load if I select it
[03:34] <ubotu> methinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:34] <cosco> :|
[03:34] <Pygi> pashaw: hehe :)
[03:34] <pashaw> McJerry,   who do you suppose  program ubotu to say that?
[03:34] <McJerry> where does it say not to discuss it
[03:34] <LittleDrummerBoy> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THE ARROW KEYS TO MAKE THEM WORK
[03:34] <ruaraidh> does anyone have any idea how to force dpkg/apt to fix a half installed package without dpkg -a --configure?
[03:34] <pashaw> McJerry,   your rather thick
[03:34] <ruaraidh> LDB: try a livecd
[03:34] <Pygi> cosco: wanna try me to help you or?
[03:35] <david_m_e>  ruaraidh: it doing something intelligent; why didn't Synaptic work?
[03:35] <ruaraidh> and don't dhout :)
[03:35] <cosco> #chat.with.pigy
[03:35] <ruaraidh> synaptic doesn't play with naked dpkg files, I think
[03:35] <LittleDrummerBoy> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[03:35] <ruaraidh> 'fraid that's the only way I know how to do it?
[03:35] <McJerry> no, your rather one sided, but i am not here to debate with you, now if you want to help cosco, perhaps we need to get him started on figuring things out instead of doing it for him.....
[03:35] <ruaraidh> did it work?
[03:36] <Pygi> !ntfs
[03:36] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[03:36] <pashaw> McJerry,   i like cosco  i wanta keep him around
[03:36] <LittleDrummerBoy> why do i have to do to get someones attention
[03:36] <LittleDrummerBoy> please
[03:36] <cosco> lol
[03:36] <LittleDrummerBoy> help
[03:36] <ruaraidh> LittleDrummerBoy: try a damned livecd, see if it's a problem with ubuntu or the arrow keys themselves!
[03:36] <david_m_e> ruaraidh: it errors out for 4 libs not installed... ugh... now i have to figure out how to install: xlib6g, xlibs, libqt3-mt, libqt3c102-mt
[03:36] <LittleDrummerBoy> i dont have a livecd
[03:37] <ruaraidh> look for them under libraries in synaptic, or search
[03:37] <cosco> McJerry its all about that partition.. ntfs one
[03:37] <ruaraidh> burn one LDB
[03:37] <pashaw> LittleDrummerBoy,    thats a quick way to get the boot
[03:37] <cosco> im 15 years old noob .. cant do it all alone :|
[03:37] <ruaraidh> LDB: no, wait...
[03:37] <cosco> :) :P :> :D
[03:37] <McJerry> pashaw: and so, i am simply suggesting that he refer to the script to see a list of programs (hint, friggin, hint) he may need to install to get his base install up to speed for what he is wanting to do with xmms and mp3s.......
[03:38] <ruaraidh> LDB: reboot, get into your BIOS and see if you can move the arrow keys there
[03:38] <pashaw> McJerry,   i get all that  i only asked you a simple request  not to do it again  i know you had good intentions
[03:38] <McJerry> otherwise, help me understand what i missed here??? what does playing mp3s have to do with ntfs partition?
[03:38] <LittleDrummerBoy> good idea
[03:38] <LittleDrummerBoy> i'll go to the BIOS thing
[03:38] <LittleDrummerBoy> and im sure theyre gonna work
[03:38] <LittleDrummerBoy> im pretty sure
[03:38] <ruaraidh> It's what I do... <cheesy smile />
[03:38] <cafuego> Hmm, cheese...
[03:39] <ruaraidh> a delicious new years's treat...
[03:39] <ruaraidh> nevermind...
[03:39] <ruaraidh> I'm odd and tired
[03:39] <McJerry> pashaw: then we are on the same wavelength for the most part, i will respect your requet
[03:39] <LittleDrummerBoy> brb im going to the bios bliue screen thingyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[03:39] <pashaw> McJerry,  i was asked the same thing once  :P
[03:39] <McJerry> np
[03:40] <Note> how can I make my resolution higher
[03:40] <cosco> :-?
[03:40] <ruaraidh> Note: in gnome...
[03:40] <cosco> brb reboot
[03:40] <McJerry> but, i still feel that script has a good reference list to the various programs most need to enhance a base install. period
[03:40] <cosco> if i dont come back
[03:40] <Note> yes
[03:40] <cosco> slap Pygi
[03:40] <ruaraidh> System, at the top of the screen...
[03:40] <cosco> ok?
[03:40] <cosco> :D
[03:40] <ITSa341> <-- having a New Years Strawberry Daquirrita  ( couldn't decide whether to add Tequilla or Rum  so I added a bottle of each )
[03:40] <Pygi> cosco: why slapping? :P
[03:40] <Note> ah but that doesnt work
[03:40] <ruaraidh> ok
[03:40] <Note> I only have one to choose from
[03:40] <pashaw> McJerry,    they wont use it as your suggesting you will install it   then break stuff then come here worse of then before
[03:41] <Note> (Itried it many times before it aint really brains urgery)
[03:41] <brasko> Hi, what's the difference between /dev/input/mice and /dev/psaux?
[03:41] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Note about fixres
[03:41] <ruaraidh> what does your GPU support (nominally)?
[03:41] <ruaraidh> Note: better plan, ignore me, listen to those guys
[03:41] <McJerry> pashaw: i just haven't had that problem: maybe it's just me
[03:41] <ruaraidh> :)
[03:41] <brasko> As I've stated before, my mouse doesn't work when i switch in KVM between windows/linux. The only way to get it to work is to reboot
[03:42] <brasko> This was never a problem with debian, I could just restart the X server
[03:42] <ITSa341> Anyone here had any luck with aol 9 yet?? or even 7 or 8??
[03:42] <brasko> However, the mouse in debian XF86 file was to /dev/psaux
[03:42] <brasko> In Ubuntu it's to /dev/input/mice
[03:42] <pashaw> brasko,   that was for pre 2.6 kernels
[03:42] <eric_> is there a site where I can download the install for xfce
[03:43] <pashaw> brasko,   /dev/psaux device, which was in Linux pre 2.6 kernels. Since version 2.6, this device has been removed.
[03:43] <ruaraidh> eric_: can't you use synaptic & the ubuntu reps?
[03:43] <batman> hello everyone and happy new year
[03:43] <eric_> yeah but I want to burn a cd for the install
[03:43] <Note> I tried to update to dapper but it froze and I couldnt boot Xorg up again
[03:43] <ruaraidh> wtf? :)
[03:44] <SillyZ> happy new year
[03:44] <ruaraidh> what do you mean burn a new cd?
[03:44] <Iga> could anyone help me ? I got an "debootstrap" error while installting Breezy and Hoary
[03:44] <eric_> I want to burn a xfce install cd
[03:44] <SillyZ> anyone know how / if its possible to make boot floppies for ubuntu? I have a laptop w/ no cdrom drive and would really like to get ubuntu on it
[03:45] <eric_> is there a place to download the iso.image file
[03:45] <ruaraidh> eric_: why?
[03:45] <ruaraidh> xfce is a program, not an os
[03:45] <eric_> so I can install it on another pc
[03:45] <Pygi> !codecs
[03:45] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[03:45] <pashaw> Iga,    youve been at this forever   maybe you should try knoppix install   if that still doenst work then you have bigger problems than linux   but if it works   then Ubuntu has a bug
[03:45] <Note> u mean
[03:45] <brasko> pashaw: I see, this 2.6 kernel also happens to have /dev/psaux
[03:45] <Note> xubuntu?
[03:45] <brasko> is that for back compatibilty?
[03:46] <ruaraidh> google for the source / a .deb and burn a data cd, I guess
[03:46] <pashaw> brasko,   try it then  worse thing can happen it wont do anything
[03:46] <Strike> hrmm, anybody else have a problem with the gmail notifier dying after a while?
[03:46] <Ainvar`> if I wanted to use something like beagel for indexing and such do I have to use reiser or does ext3 work fine for this also... I remember reading this on the forum sometime back but have not been able to find the info I need tonight to answer this question
[03:46] <Pygi> weeee, cosco's partitions work now :)
[03:46] <SillyZ> also, wheres the kernel source for breezy? 2.6.12-9 I belive it is
[03:46] <cosco> yup
[03:46] <cosco> i love pygi
[03:46] <cosco> :>
[03:46] <mebsd> wtf is breezy
[03:46] <Iga> pashaw > I've tried a Hoary cd that worked 2 months ago, and it still gave me the same "debootstrap" error
[03:46] <Pygi> !mp3
[03:46] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:46] <brasko> pashaw: Now that you've said that, I'm thinking it's probably a kernel change, instead of an X change
[03:46] <eric_> oh see I thought is was an os like kubuntu or Ubuntu
[03:46] <ruaraidh> I wonder where Little Drummer Boy is...
[03:46] <brasko> pashaw: the fact that I have to reboot to get it to sync
[03:46] <cosco> !shit
[03:46] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, cosco
[03:47] <Tonglebeak> does anyone know how i can remove the grub bootloader and be able to use ntldr (i hate grub)
[03:47] <cosco> lol
[03:47] <pashaw> brasko,    that would be my guess  2.6 changed alot of stuff from 2.4
[03:47] <Pygi> cosco: have you enabled all repositories in sources.list? and don't annoy ubotu :P
[03:47] <mebsd> grub hate you
[03:47] <brasko> pashaw: I wonder if there's a command line tool used to resync the mouse
[03:47] <cosco> Pygi : yes
[03:47] <Pygi> cosco: you sure? :)
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell cosco about conduct
[03:47] <andres> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:47] <Tonglebeak> i was told using fixmbr will not work because of the why linux partitions are
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> andres: follow the instructions
[03:47] <ruaraidh> Oooh!
[03:47] <Tonglebeak> and i'm not up to using fixmbr unless i'm sure it will work
[03:48] <pashaw> Iga,   im just saying  try a different debian based distro  if they still fail you have bigger problems than Ubuntu
[03:48] <Pygi> cosco: k, I'll deal with codecs now
[03:48] <cosco> okok
[03:48] <ruaraidh> I have a problem like Andres'!
[03:48] <pashaw> Iga,   ive seen you here alot lately
[03:48] <ruaraidh> Please, God, help me!
[03:48] <andres> :S
[03:48] <pashaw> Iga,  i feel bad it keeps  messin up
[03:48] <Pygi> cosco: have you enabled even multiverse?
[03:48] <ruaraidh> running dpkg --configure -a just hangs!
[03:48] <mase> HAPPY NEW YEARSSSSssssssss
[03:48] <cosco> Pygi yes
[03:48] <SillyZ> how can I install ubuntu on a laptop w/ no cdrom ?
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell SillyZ about smartboot
[03:49] <SillyZ> smartboot? whats dat ?
[03:49] <johndarkhorse> SillyZ: read your priv msgs
[03:49] <Iga> pashaw: ok, but I can't download it, my connection is too slow
[03:50] <SillyZ> thanks john
[03:50] <Iga> however, Windows has installed without problem, and breezy's live cd works fine
[03:50] <McJerry> cosco: are you making progres?
[03:50] <McJerry> progress?
[03:50] <cosco> McJerry yup
[03:50] <McJerry> good
[03:50] <ruaraidh_> any body?
[03:50] <pashaw> Iga, i just think your spinning your wheels on the same trouble  time to take a different approach at this
[03:50] <cosco> mcjerry partitions work now:P
[03:50] <pashaw> Iga,    but i wish you luck
[03:50] <brasko> pashaw: https://lists.dulug.duke.edu/pipermail/dulug/2004-August/015432.html, looks like this is my problem in general
[03:50] <Pygi> cosco: you know, I haven't sleept today or yesterday :p
[03:51] <pashaw> brasko,   any solutions
[03:51] <cosco> Mcjerry cant find tux on symaptic :|
[03:51] <ruaraidh_> come on!
[03:51] <cosco> Pygi believe me .. me neither
[03:51] <ruaraidh_> sorry
[03:51] <Dagda> Hi all, I have a question about rar files
[03:51] <SillyZ> mmm dosent quite explain what I was looking for but ill give it a a shot johndarkhorse
[03:51] <brasko> pashaw: you seem to be right. It looks like the 2.6 kernel significatnly changed the mouse drivers
[03:51] <brasko> pashaw: instead of using user space mouse drivers
[03:51] <pashaw> ruaraidh_,   why did you say anybody?  i never saw you ask a question
[03:52] <Pygi> cosco: what connection do you have?
[03:52] <ruaraidh_> I did as ruaraidh
[03:52] <cosco> Pygi 512kbps
[03:52] <ruaraidh_> sorry, screwed up xchat
[03:52] <Dagda> I tried installing the rar archiver from the instructions here   http://ubuntuguide.org/#rar
[03:52] <pashaw> brasko,   i still agree with cafuego   time to learn terminal server  and ditch the KVM
[03:52] <ruaraidh_> my problem is that dpkg --configure -a...
[03:52] <johndarkhorse> !ubuntuguide
[03:52] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[03:52] <Pygi> cosco: k, should be quite fast then....
[03:52] <brasko> hmmm, is that easy to use from windows?
[03:52] <Dagda> those commands didn't seem to work for me, it is still unrecognized
[03:52] <brasko> I need this to be transparent, so my wife can use it
[03:53] <ruaraidh_> needs to run but hangs every time I run it...
[03:53] <johndarkhorse> Dagda: stay away from ubuntuguide (install unrar-nonfree from multiverse)
[03:53] <pashaw> brasko,   yes  take a couple goes and maybe some quick directions  but its easy when its setup
[03:53] <Pygi> cosco: I still don't know why I tried to connect to that .ru thingy :P
[03:53] <ruaraidh_> I need to know how to stop it trying to fix things ;)
[03:53] <cosco> lol
[03:53] <cosco> :D
[03:53] <brasko> pashaw: Which machine would the mouse be hooked up to?
[03:53] <cosco> its .ro
[03:53] <cosco> :D
[03:53] <brasko> pashaw: I have 2 linux box's and 1 windows
[03:53] <pashaw> brasko,   heck  VNC  is installed in Ubuntu by default can use that also
[03:53] <Pygi> cosco: and now you tell me :)
[03:54] <cosco> :>
[03:54] <pashaw> brasko,   keep it all on your favorite machine
[03:54] <ruaraidh_> pashaw: that any help?
[03:54] <brasko> pashaw: hmm, can I keep it on the windows machine?
[03:54] <Dagda> should I stay away from that as a reference period?  Is it bad info?
[03:54] <ITSa341> I've used VNC  It's easy and worked fine
[03:54] <brasko> pashaw: So that it "just works" for my wife?
[03:54] <pashaw> ruaraidh_,   what are you trying to do     not the command  why are you running that to begin with
[03:54] <brasko> pashaw: And then setup linux to use that mouse?
[03:54] <cosco> tomorrow i go snowboarding and its 5 am ... and im working on my ubuntu :D oh yea
[03:55] <ruaraidh_> because I tried to install gstreamer...
[03:55] <brasko> VNC is pretty tempting, but my other linux box is debian stable, with no X server (firewall)
[03:55] <SillyZ> johndarkhorse, can I just dd the smb.bin will that work? or does it have to have rawrite ?
[03:55] <pashaw> brasko,   yes  windows  fine  i run 6 servers at work from my 1 windows desktop  AIX, Debian, Microsoft mix
[03:55] <Pygi> cosco: it's 4 am :P
[03:55] <ruaraidh_> and for one reason or another it stopped while doing so
[03:55] <cosco> Pygi in RO its 4:55 am :D
[03:55] <pashaw> brasko,  i never leave my desk   getting secretary butt
[03:55] <Pygi> yes, I know, here, 3:55 am :P
[03:55] <brasko> pashaw: whoa. Does this apply to the mouse and keyboard? or just the mouse?
[03:56] <ruaraidh_> I might have stopped it, but I think there was some kind of problem
[03:56] <ruaraidh_> sorry, quite tired
[03:56] <pashaw> brasko,   it all stays on the windows machine   ubuntu  will only need power and network cable
[03:56] <cosco> Pygi are u downloading codecs?:D
[03:56] <Pygi> cosco: yesh
[03:56] <pashaw> brasko,   not even a monitor
[03:56] <Pygi> and installing them
[03:56] <brasko> pashaw: and the video cable, right?
[03:56] <brasko> huh?
[03:56] <brasko> hahaha
[03:56] <metho> hello, thanks very much pashaw and ubotu, i installed the mplayer without any problems (thanks again) is there any other divx player available
[03:56] <Pygi> cosco: you have enough bandwith?:)
[03:56] <cosco> yes.. but i dont have enough time coz my eyes close ;))
[03:57] <Pygi> cosco: ah, well, drink cofee :P
[03:57] <pashaw> ruaraidh_,   you can remove it   with remove --purge  then reinstall
[03:57] <cosco> :)) my parents are about to wake in 1 h :D
[03:57] <jhon_1> how to install adobe reaader 7.0?
[03:57] <brasko> pashaw: I'm mystified. What's the name of the server I have to install on windows? and the name of the client I have to install on ubuntu?
[03:57] <Pygi> after this please erase mario and pygi user.....
[03:57] <cosco> ok
[03:57] <Pygi> cosco: hoh, we'll be done in 1 hour....
[03:57] <cosco> lol
[03:57] <metho> pashaw, thanks very for the information refaeding the mplayer
[03:58] <cosco> Pygi ETA? estimated time till finish?:D
[03:58] <Dagda> johndarkhorse,  I can only see unrar-free in synaptic.  Do I need to add another repository, I have multivers binar and source checked
[03:58] <ruaraidh_> I tried sudo apt-get remove --purge gstreameretc., but it just tells me gstreamer isn't installed...
[03:58] <ruaraidh_> and ignores it
[03:58] <Pygi> cosco: 15 minutes?
[03:58] <cosco> nice
[03:58] <cosco> :D
[03:58] <pashaw> brasko,   if your just going from windows to Ubuntu use VNC  its preinstalled
[03:59] <pashaw> !tell brasko about vnc
[03:59] <cosco> what do i have to write in terminal to see info about my computer?
[03:59] <pashaw> brasko,   when you want to get fancy  setup terminalserver
[03:59] <brasko> pashaw: Thanks. Really appreciate it.
[03:59] <pashaw> brasko,   np
[04:00] <Pygi> cosco: the only thing I won't do for you is setup firefox to work with java....
[04:00] <ruaraidh_> sorry, running that command gives me "E: dpkg was interrupted... etc."
[04:00] <pashaw> cosco,    what info?
[04:00] <Pygi> welcome irv
[04:01] <cosco> Pygi, hmmm is it so annyoing?lol
[04:01] <pashaw> ruaraidh_,    try  sudo apt-get install -f <program>     whatever used the first time
[04:01] <cosco> in windows is quite simple
[04:01] <cosco> just downloading a plugin
[04:01] <cosco> :D
[04:01] <brasko> O, the terminal server is part of XVNC?
[04:02] <Pygi> cosco: well, not here, and I don't feel ike :P
[04:02] <pashaw> brasko,   terminalserver is seperate but does the same thing over a different protocol
[04:02] <Pygi> I wanna sleep :P
[04:02] <ruaraidh_> "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:02] <ruaraidh_> " :(
[04:02] <cosco> me too
[04:02] <cosco> :|
[04:02] <cosco> Pygi how old are you?
[04:02] <brasko> pashaw: I understand now. Why would I want to use the terminal server then, if it's similar to VNC?
[04:02] <Pygi> cosco: 136 years :)
[04:03] <cosco> nah..
[04:03] <cosco> 1337 years
[04:03] <brasko> pashaw: Sorry to keep this going :), I guess I'm just to curious
[04:03] <cosco> :P
[04:03] <pashaw> brasko,   youll learn something and may prefer the way it works
[04:03] <cosco> no.. seriously
[04:03] <cosco> how old?
[04:03] <poningru> ok seriously guys
[04:03] <brasko> haha, I see
[04:03] <Pygi> cosco: hm, I don't know :)
[04:03] <poningru> #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <cosco> Pygi guess
[04:03] <cosco> :D
[04:04] <pashaw> brasko,   if you were going from Ubuntu into XP then youd want the terminalserver right away   VNC cant connect to the XP remote desktop
[04:04] <brasko> pashaw: Whoa, the terminal server can log into XP from Ubuntu?
[04:04] <irvin> morning all!
[04:04] <irvin> is there a backport for bootchart on breezy?
[04:05] <Pygi> mornin' irv
[04:05] <cosco> argh i have another question to you guys.. when i made the partitions in the ubuntu installer ... it veryfied the windows partition yoo .. and found some files and said they not corespond with 32 bite and staf.... ater ubuntu was installed i get a blue screen when xp startss... its kaputt..
[04:05] <brasko> pashaw: Are you saying I can get to the remote desktop on an XP home machine, if I have the terminal server?
[04:05] <metho> everyone HAPPY NEW YEAR
[04:05] <brasko> pashaw: And I can go from the windows machine into linux?
[04:06] <cosco> windows says about some hardware..
[04:06] <Pygi> Cosco, please erase my 2 account
[04:06] <cosco> pygi ure ready?
[04:06] <Pygi> cosco: yes
[04:06] <Pygi> cosco: you have everything setup but support for java in firefox
[04:06] <pashaw> ruaraidh_,   sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[04:06] <Pygi> I didn't felt like doin' in in 4 in the mornin
[04:07] <cosco> Pygi
[04:07] <cosco> i have to reboot
[04:07] <cosco> to play mp3?
[04:07] <pashaw> brasko,   your planning to keep the keyboard connected to the XP  so just use VNC into Ubuntu   til you get the hang of it
[04:07] <Pygi> try.....
[04:07] <McJerry> brasko: get RealVNC enterprise for your windows xp machine
[04:07] <cosco> ok i reboot
[04:08] <McJerry> then you can vnc into linux and view linux desktop on the xp machine
[04:08] <McJerry> and visa versa
[04:08] <topyli> reboot? i was too late to tell him/her/it not to
[04:08] <brasko> pashaw: Sounds good, I've used VNC before. In fact, I think I used RealVNC. However, wouldn't tightvnc be good?
[04:08] <ruaraidh_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:08] <ruaraidh_>  sorry
[04:08] <Pygi> huh, 2 hours of :/
[04:09] <pashaw> brasko,   yeah we didnt get to that part yet   for XP you can use any VNC program  tightVNC realVNC   as McJerry mentioned
[04:09] <Dagda> what repository is unrar-nonfree found in
[04:09] <metho> McJerry & Pashaw: can u not use some built-in options for remote controlling instead of using third party software
[04:09] <Dagda> I can't seem to find it anywhere
[04:09] <Pygi> dagda: probably multiverse
[04:09] <Dagda> I can find the free version, not the nonfree
[04:09] <spacey_ki> unrar-nonfree is definately in multiverse
[04:10] <spacey_ki> !multiverse
[04:10] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:10] <cosco> lets see
[04:10] <cello_rasp> it would be nice if there were a  vnc for linux that allowed saving passwords and copy+paste :|
[04:10] <brasko> pashaw: Just so I don't get ahead of myself, I should probably install either tightvnc or realvnc first, and then get ubuntu to talk to it, right?
[04:10] <david_m_e> ruaraidh: any idea where i can find: lib6g, lib6s, libqt3c102-mt
[04:10] <brasko> McJerry: why do you use realvnc over tightvnc?
[04:10] <pashaw> metho,   VNC is free and easy     great learning tool before trying terminalserver
[04:10] <Dagda> I have both the universe and multiverse checked, it doesn't find it
[04:10] <cosco> Pygi, i love you :D it works
[04:10] <spacey_ki> brasko, FreeNX
[04:10] <Pygi> cocso: hehe, congrats and enjoy :)
[04:11] <brasko> pashaw: OK, I'll take your advice on that
[04:11] <cosco> thank you very much
[04:11] <cosco> you and the other guys that helped me
[04:11] <Pygi> no problem :)
[04:11] <pashaw> brasko,   all you need is the vncviewer for the XP machine it doesnt even install
[04:11] <topyli> cello_rasp: xvnc-client does provide copy/paste
[04:11] <cosco> \:D/ feel the music
[04:11] <cosco> :>
[04:11] <McJerry> brasko: i use tightvnc in linux and realvnc on windowsxp because it simply works with no problems for me
[04:11] <brasko> OOOO, I see.
[04:11] <spacey_ki> FreeNX is ideal for remote desktop
[04:11] <Pygi> cosco: yes, after two hours of struggle :P
[04:11] <brasko> I need to setup the server on linux. cool. haha, and your saying it does that by default?
[04:11] <Kyral> FreeNX++
[04:11] <metho> Pashaw: i see ur point and i have been using VNC for past 6 months or so but now i am borred and wana try something new like terminalserver which seems to be harder but doable
[04:12] <pashaw> brasko,   then System>Pref>RemoteDesktop  on the Ubuntu machine set that up
[04:12] <cosco> pygi yup
[04:12] <cosco> :D
[04:12] <gnu2it2> i have new install ubuntu,, it is not setting of eth0 or routs on boot, any ideas? info is in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:12] <spacey_ki> metho, before you play with LTSP you should play with FreeNX ;)
[04:12] <pashaw> metho,   yes and yes   its harder and doable and really cool
[04:12] <cosco> i go to sleep now
[04:12] <cosco> bye guys
[04:12] <cosco> c'ya later
[04:12] <cosco> :D
[04:12] <brasko> pashaw: OK, I'll have to reboot :), unless you know of a command line to do it
[04:12] <Pygi> bye
[04:12] <Kyral> FreeNX is amazing
[04:12] <pashaw> brasko,    yeah get your mouse working to enable the Ubuntu settings
[04:13] <brasko> I'm looking at the freenx website, it's not Yet Another VNC?
[04:13] <topyli> brasko: you almost never need to reboot
[04:13] <Kyral> brasko: Faster, and over SSH
[04:13] <spacey_ki> brasko, you can install the packages from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:13] <McJerry> brasko: but you can simply enable remote desktop access on your base ubuntu install and install realvnc on xp machine and connect right up
[04:13] <pashaw> brasko,   no its an improvement to terminalserver
[04:13] <spacey_ki> freenx is in that repository
[04:13] <brasko> pashaw: O, OK. I see.
[04:13] <spacey_ki> FreeNX is much nicer than VNC
[04:13] <brasko> pashaw: I'm definatly happy to take your advice, get VNC up, and then at least I have a mouse to play around with
[04:14] <McJerry> like pashaw said....we do agree it seems :)
[04:14] <metho> Pashaw: can u provide me a useful link for using/learning terminalserver instead of asking here like a dumbie!!!
[04:14] <pashaw> brasko,  VNC has been around forever   terminalused to cost thousands  now  NX   learned from all those other programs
[04:14] <newbiextrem> Hi everybody :D
[04:14] <McJerry> spacey_ki: if your freeNX session craps out, can you pick up where you left off?
[04:14] <brasko> McJerry: Yeah, I have to reboot to enable remote desktop on ubuntu, cause mouse doesn't work
[04:14] <spacey_ki> McJerry, suppose to yeah
[04:15] <ubuntu_> the passwd of root on cd live ubuntu????
[04:15] <ubuntu_> the passwd of root on cd live ubuntu????
[04:15] <spacey_ki> you can suspend you current session for sure in freenx
[04:15] <topyli> brasko: then it's a bug, not working as advertised. report the bug
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> ubuntu_: there is none
[04:15] <pashaw> metho,   google  linux terminal server guide  youll find a bunch
[04:15] <McJerry> ubuntu_ is encrypted random password
[04:15] <spacey_ki> ubuntu_, just type sudo -i
[04:15] <poningru> ubuntu_: none
[04:15] <spacey_ki> McJerry, no its not
[04:15] <brasko> topyli: I'm using a KVM
[04:15] <spacey_ki> there is no password
[04:15] <metho> Pashaw: thanks!
[04:15] <spacey_ki> its disabled
[04:16] <poningru> yeah you just sudo
[04:16] <ubuntu_> ok
[04:17] <topyli> brasko: oh sorry, i thought you were talking about vnc or tightvnc. i know nothing about KVM
[04:17] <spacey> KVM has nothing to do with VNC
[04:18] <topyli> i see that now :)
[04:18] <poimen> hello !
[04:18] <metho> can i ask a stupid question... i want to type su instead of sudo for admin tasks!! is that possible in ubuntu???
[04:18] <ruaraidh_> thx, everyone
[04:18] <poimen> happy new year!
[04:19] <metho> happy new year
[04:19] <poimen> :)
[04:19] <topyli> damn sabbath's fluff is good :)
[04:19] <david_m_e> Seveas: you there?
[04:19] <Note> I cant start mol
[04:19] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell metho about root
[04:19] <Note> this error appear startmol --osx
[04:19] <Note> Mac-on-Linux 0.9.70 [Jul 23 2005 19:20] 
[04:19] <Note> Copyright (C) 1997-2004 Samuel Rydh
[04:19] <Note> Starting MOL session 1
[04:19] <Note> Loading Mac-on-Linux kernel module:
[04:19] <Note> FATAL: Module mol not found.
[04:19] <Note> [04:19] <Note>   Failed to load the Mac-on-Linux kernel module -- please install
[04:19] <newbiextrem> Is there a guy here who knows PHP ? I'm really bad with that language (and in English too :D) and I'm not sure how to fix the error that appears on the top : http://welcometux.ath.cx:65500/punbb_final_save/viewtopic.php?id=257
[04:19] <Note>   mol-modules-source and build your own, or find a binary package
[04:19] <Toma-> got flud?
[04:20] <poimen> I hope 2006 will be agreate year for ubuntu and kubuntu and linux
[04:20] <topyli> metho: it's possible. just give root a password using sudo. why do you want to do that?
[04:20] <McJerry> ubuntu_: are you still here
[04:20] <Pygi> newbieextrem: this has nothing to do with ubuntu :P
[04:20] <Pygi> use #php
[04:21] <Note> sry yeesh
[04:21] <newbiextrem> Oh yeah sorry... But Ubuntu forums use punBB :D
[04:21] <gnu2it2> i have new install ubuntu,, it is not setting of eth0 or routs on boot, any ideas? info is in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:21] <Pygi> newbiextrem: hehe :)
[04:21] <timfrost> metho, 'sudo -i' is equivalent to 'su -'
[04:21] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Note about pastebin
[04:21] <brasko> OK, I think I got the remove desktop working
[04:21] <brasko> now I'll install the client.
[04:22] <metho> Johndrakehorse: thanks
[04:22] <metho> timfrost: thanks
[04:22] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping?
[04:23] <metho> Bye everyone
[04:23] <david_m_e> to at-large:  any idea where i can find: lib6g, lib6s, libqt3c102-mt ?
[04:23] <metho> enjoy new year day
[04:23] <Pygi> k, bye and enjoy :)))
[04:23] <purpleheart_USMC> Is it possible to do everything with a live cd that you can do with an installed ubuntu?
[04:24] <pashaw> purpleheart_USMC,  yes  but youll have to do it everytime you reboot
[04:24] <brasko> when using realvnc viewer, what do I put for the Server?
[04:24] <purpleheart_USMC> i see
[04:24] <brasko> I used the IP, and it doesn't seem to connect.
[04:24] <newbiextrem> I was just wondering how to get the member name because if I replace the variable "poster_name" in the following line by the author name's found in the topic it works : $poster_name = mysql_fetch_row($db->query('SELECT username FROM '.$db->prefix.'users WHERE id="'.$pun_user['id'] .'"'));
[04:24] <pashaw> brasko,    ip address for Ubuntu machine
[04:24] <brasko> I can ping, with cmd, the IP just fine
[04:25] <brasko> I wonder if I didn't start the service
[04:25] <newbiextrem> well it doesn't concern Ubuntu so I guess the question has nothing to do here :(
[04:25] <molinero> Hello Ubuntu users!
[04:25] <jdcaserockies> Can someone tell me how to make rhythmbox the default player for all music files? My friend set it to XMMS, but I removed XMMS.
[04:25] <molinero> Happy New Year
[04:25] <jdcaserockies> happy new year, where are you?
[04:26] <pashaw> brasko, you might want to do a quick   ifconfig on the ubuntu machine to verify the ip
[04:26] <Toma-> im nursing my new year hangover :|~~~
[04:26] <Dagda> thanks for the help, I thought i had enabled all of the extra repositories, I followed a tutorial that showed me how to do it in the terminal.  I can now unpack rar files.  You guys are great, thanks again!
[04:26] <jdcaserockies> How do you choose file type associations?
[04:26] <brasko> pashaw: whoa, good point
[04:27] <brasko> yeah, the IP is good
[04:27] <brasko> what's the name of the vnc server process?
[04:27] <brasko> I could check to see if it's running
[04:27] <Irvine> how to run wine after installed?
[04:27] <pashaw> brasko,   yiou enabled  allow users to control and allow the view  right
[04:27] <Toma-> Irvine: "wine windowsprogram.exe" in a terminal
[04:27] <jdcaserockies> apps -> run -> wine?
[04:27] <brasko> yes
[04:27] <pashaw> brash i always use require password also
[04:27] <brasko> the top 2 are checked, the bottom 2 unchecked
[04:27] <Iga> or simply "wine" into a terminal
[04:28] <brasko> Do you know what port vnc starts on ubuntu?
[04:28] <brasko> I could use netstat -l?
[04:28] <McJerry> brasko: what machine is the client?
[04:29] <brasko> the client is windows xp home machine. realvnc.
[04:29] <jdcaserockies> anybody know how I can pick file associations?
[04:29] <brasko> the server is newly installed ubuntu.
[04:29] <Irvine> Toma-,cannot find windowsprogram.exe
[04:29] <johndarkhorse> jdcaserockies: right click in nautilus and choose properties. have fun
[04:29] <McJerry> click options button, then misc tab and check 3.3 protocol, see if that works
[04:29] <purpleheart_USMC> Does Ubuntu support external hdd's?  Like the USB ones?
[04:29] <jdcaserockies> thx
[04:29] <Shadyman> purpleheart_USMC: Yes.
[04:29] <timfrost> brasko, try 'netstat -nat' (the a to get the ports that are listening
[04:30] <Toma-> Irvine: you need to find the executable, eg. "MSN.exe" or "Nero.exe" and put it after "wine"
[04:30] <pashaw> brasko,   you typed just the ip into the vnc server box  right
[04:30] <jdcaserockies> johndarkhorse: when i right click no properties comes up
[04:30] <brasko> OK, nothing is listening, except on localhost
[04:30] <purpleheart_USMC> Shadyman: Is there any speciffic brand, or does it cover pretty much all of them?
[04:30] <dustin> can anyone here tell me what the different between file_get_contents("http://www.website.com/tables.php?jump=690"); is and me typing http://www.website.com/tables.php?jump=690 in the address window........ the site seems to know that it is a script and it does not load all the required information
[04:30] <brasko> pashaw: yes
[04:30] <johndarkhorse> jdcaserockies: the context menu doesnt say
[04:30] <johndarkhorse> 'properties' at the bottom?
[04:30] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: it doesn't support mine
[04:31] <jdcaserockies> no, am I right clicking in the right place?
[04:31] <Irvine> cannot find wine.exe
[04:31] <brasko> I suppose I didn't actually setup the vnc server properly
[04:31] <zeljko> hi guys
[04:31] <purpleheart_USMC> oh.  i saw a 100gb drivee for $80 and got interested
[04:31] <zeljko> hepy new year
[04:31] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: I have an external maxtor 250Gb hard disk and ubuntu doesn't work well with either its USB2 or Firewire interfaces
[04:31] <Iga> Irvine > wine.exe ?
[04:31] <Irvine> how to run wine?
[04:31] <brasko> looks like port 5900 should be listening?
[04:32] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Irvine about wine
[04:32] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: I don't think it's a problem with ubuntu specifically, no linux distro seems to work with it
[04:32] <purpleheart_USMC> but if its 1.1 compatible it should be fine?
[04:32] <pashaw> brasko,    did you enable a firewall   like firestarter
[04:32] <johndarkhorse> brasko: only if you're running it through a ssh tunnel
[04:32] <Irvine> i just installed by synaptic package manager
[04:32] <brasko> pashaw: definatly not, unless it does it by default
[04:32] <brasko> I haven't done anything to this machine yet
[04:33] <brasko> mostly cause the mouse doesn't work :)
[04:33] <Iga> just type "wine" into a shell
[04:33] <brasko> Yeah, the vnc server hasn't started
[04:33] <brasko> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/vnc/list/53313?page=last
[04:33] <brasko> It says port 5900 should be listening
[04:33] <timfrost> brasko, 5900 is the correct port.
[04:33] <brasko> OK, so, it didn't start up
[04:34] <Irvine> how to cd to desktop?
[04:34] <Iga> Irvine > or go into the directory where the .exe you want to run is with the "cd" command, then type "wine ...exe"
[04:34] <Shadyman> irvine: cd ~/Desktop/
[04:35] <Iga> cd  ~/Desktop/
[04:35] <Shadyman> Irvine: Note the capital D.
[04:35] <Iga> use "tab" after having typed "D"
[04:35] <pashaw> brasko,    type  ps -ale | grep vino
[04:36] <Iga> then, just type "wine ./xxxxx.exe"
[04:36] <Toma-> no need for ./
[04:37] <Iga> ah? I did it, but if it's useless...
[04:37] <cafuego> Iga: Much of a muchness.
[04:37] <pashaw> brasko,    type    netstat -an | grep :5900
[04:37] <Shadyman> Is there a tool for ubuntu like chkconfig to check the init levels of init.d files?
[04:37] <Toma-> ./ just tells it to look in the cwd. something thats done by default anhyway :D~
[04:37] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: I'm not sure whether it worked with 1.1 or not.  I think maybe it did, but it's been so long since I used it now.
[04:38] <cafuego> brasko: Playing with vnc?
[04:38] <Toma-> Shadyman: its called bum.
[04:38] <Shadyman> Toma-: Ok...
[04:38] <purpleheart_USMC> dooglus: ty
[04:38] <Toma-> :P~
[04:38] <jdcaserockies> how od i make rhythmbox the default player?
[04:38] <Toma-> !info bum
[04:38] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[04:38] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: actually, yes, it did work with USB 1.1.  that's right.  I remember backing up my laptop's 40Gb hard disk to it one night using USB1 and it was fine.
[04:38] <Shadyman> Aha.
[04:39] <brasko> pashaw: after reboot, it was up
[04:39] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: it took all night, but it was fine.
[04:39] <brasko> pashaw: It's working now, this is great!
[04:39] <Shadyman> Toma-: Thanks. I thoguht maybe you were joking or something... *shifty*
[04:39] <purpleheart_USMC> heh, sweet
[04:39] <Toma-> i have one wicked hangover :|~
[04:39] <poningru> jdcaserockies: default for what?
[04:39] <Toma-> hehehe :D
[04:39] <brasko> cafuego: yeah
[04:39] <pashaw> brasko,   thats only the beginning   terminalserver and then FreeNX are even better
[04:39] <jdcaserockies> poningru: all music files
[04:39] <brasko> I guess I have some configuration now
[04:39] <brasko> the window is appropriatly sized
[04:40] <pashaw> brasko,   think your wife could handle that?
[04:40] <Irvine> how to install real layer?
[04:40] <Irvine> how to install real player?
[04:40] <Toma-> !realplayer
[04:40] <brasko> haha, definatly! Now she doesn't have to do *anything*
[04:40] <ubotu> realplayer is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:40] <pashaw> brasko,   its working now    so its click and login
[04:40] <purpleheart_USMC> i'm getting a p2 300mhz, 256mb ram, with 40gb hdd for $10 on ebay with $20 shipping
[04:40] <Irvine> i get this ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shar ed libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared  object file: No such file or directory
[04:40] <purpleheart_USMC> nice little play box
[04:40] <poningru> just find a file with whatever music format
[04:40] <poningru> brb
[04:40] <cafuego> purpleheart_USMC: Nice server.
[04:40] <pashaw> brasko,   like i said KVMs are old school  :P
[04:40] <crimsun> Irvine: install libstdc++5
[04:40] <Toma-> purpleheart_USMC: that'll be perfect for anything :)
[04:40] <jdcaserockies> poningru: then what?
[04:40] <brasko> Yeah, It totally stinks
[04:40] <mebsd> it's just waste of money
[04:41] <Irvine> how?
[04:41] <Shadyman> irvine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:41] <brasko> Thanks for all the help!
[04:41] <crimsun> Irvine: use Synaptic
[04:41] <pashaw> brasko,  have fun
[04:41] <purpleheart_USMC> oh, and it already has ubuntu 5.1 lol
[04:41] <sorush20>  guys my kde login screen is very bad.. I don't know how to describe it.. it seems like the resolution is out of range ... but xorg config autodetected the refresh rates and resolutions any help please.
[04:42] <brasko> So, how do I configure the X server so that I can move the windows around?
[04:42] <brasko> It looks like I don't have a window manager running or something
[04:42] <brasko> is that the default in ubuntu?
[04:43] <brasko> There's no border, to move the windows with
[04:43] <pashaw> brasko,   huh?  ohh its not full screen
[04:43] <yatesy> running twm?
[04:43] <Kyral> ick Twm
[04:43] <brasko> well, even when I'm at the linux machine, it looks full screen
[04:43] <Toma-> twm 4 lyfe!
[04:43] <brasko> but if I open a terminal, there is only the scrool on the right
[04:43] <yatesy> brasko: running twm?
[04:43] <brasko> but no menu on top or window, so that I can drag it
[04:43] <brasko> the default gnome setup
[04:43] <pashaw> brasko,    right click the window border on the XP machines VNC session
[04:44] <pashaw> brasko,   youll get your menu commands
[04:44] <yatesy> been messing about with packages?
[04:44] <jdcaserockies> how can i make my default music player rhythmbox?
[04:44] <pashaw> brasko,   read the full screen warning  so you know how to get out
[04:45] <Irvine> crimsun,now it asked me real player has been downloaded to where?
[04:46] <Irvine> i saved my real player into my desktop
[04:46] <Delvien> Ok guys need a little help.. Anyone know where the C header files are in Dapper drake?
[04:46] <Irvine> what should i type?
[04:47] <Iga> it is a .deb package ?
[04:47] <crimsun> Irvine: then it's in ~/Desktop/
[04:47] <Iga> type "cd ~/Desktop"
[04:48] <Iga> then "sudo dkpg -i xxxxx.deb"
[04:48] <Irvine> how to install real player by command?
[04:48] <Iga> is it a .deb package ?
[04:49] <brasko> Just a hint to you all in the future. realvnc won't work until you actually log in to the X server
[04:49] <Delvien> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:49] <Delvien> kernel?   Anyone help me with this?
[04:49] <Delvien> woops
[04:49] <Irvine> no
[04:49] <brasko> if you try to use it at the login prompt, it won't work
[04:49] <Toma-> Irvine: "sh realplayer.bin"
[04:49] <quacker> Irvine, follow the instructions for the binary on their site -- there is no other way since Real does not provide source or .deb pkgs
[04:50] <Iga> I found a .deb package 2 weeks ago
[04:50] <sls> does anyone here do any riping?
[04:51] <sls> of movies...
[04:51] <cafuego> ripening? ripping?
[04:51] <jdcaserockies> ok is there something like gdesklets but much better?
[04:51] <sls> ropping...
[04:51] <Toma-> haha
[04:51] <sls> ripping.. sorry typo...
[04:51] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: Only in MacOS X.
[04:51] <bshumate> i have a couple of movies which will be ripe in a few days...then i will dice them up and add them to a home-made spaghetti sauce! mmmm!
[04:51] <cafuego> sls: Same answer fot you.
[04:52] <Toma-> jdcaserockies: better in what way?
[04:52] <sls> yeah!
[04:52] <Delvien> How does one find out what kernal version they are using?
[04:52] <jdcaserockies> I mean i dont understand gDesklets because none of the actually work. Something like superkaramba
[04:52] <Toma-> uname -a
[04:52] <evilghost> uname -r
[04:52] <cafuego> Delvien: uname -r
[04:52] <sls> cafugeo: i have a mans foto!
[04:52] <brasko_> OK, I'm on the ubuntu box now
[04:52] <sls> or fotto...
[04:52] <Delvien> cafuego thanks
[04:52] <cafuego> sls: stop scaring me!
[04:52] <brasko_> There definatly is no way to move this window
[04:52] <sls> they did not spell it in roots.
[04:52] <brasko_> There must not be a window manager
[04:53] <brasko_> is that something I could have possibly screwed up on install?
[04:53] <brasko_> There were no options or anything for it?
[04:53] <sls> any way... i am trying to rip a swedish movie... and the frames are ... well jerky...
[04:53] <sls> regular us region stuff is ok...
[04:53] <sls> any ideas....
[04:54] <sls> how does xime handle pal vs ntsc?
[04:54] <evilghost> sls:  What commands/arguments are you using to rip?  I think you mean xine, right?
[04:54] <johndarkhorse> sls: it's all data to computer video players
[04:54] <sls> ok
[04:55] <brasko_> and I go to system->preferences->windows and get this error
[04:55] <sls> i have tried it with DVDrip from sourceforge... and:
[04:55] <brasko_> "Cannot start the preferences application for your window manager"
[04:55] <brasko_> "Window manager "unknown" has not registered a configuration tool
[04:55] <brasko_> Am I the only one here that's run into this problem?
[04:55] <sls> mencoder dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/dvd  -alang English   -info srcform="Movie created using method (r)" -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=128  -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:v4mv:vqmin=2:vbitrate=2514     -o "/home/$USER/out.avi"
[04:55] <sls> ~
[04:56] <sls> that is mplayers decoder..
[04:56] <Jeff12088> hey people
[04:57] <Jeff12088> fine.. no hi's
[04:57] <evilghost> jeffisageek:  Hello
[04:57] <evilghost> Jeff12088:  er, hello.
[04:57] <brasko_> I mean, how do I install a window manager? Everything seems to be working great, but this is a wierd problem to have with an initial install
[04:57] <brasko_> I mean, it got X to work, which is nice
[04:58] <evilghost> brakso_:  You tried "sudo apt-get install gnome"?
[04:58] <evilghost> brakso_: Or even KDE?
[04:58] <brasko_> evilghost: no, I just installed today
[04:58] <brasko_> evilghost: from cd
[04:58] <brasko_> evilghost: this is the "standard" install
[04:58] <evilghost> brasko:  Breezy or Drake?
[04:58] <brasko_> evilghost: Breezy
[04:58] <brasko_> evilghost: Everything seems great, except this.
[04:59] <jdcaserockies> where's the best site to get gdesklets
[04:59] <evilghost> brasko_:  That's quite odd, I've done a 5.04 to 5.10 upgrade without that issue; try installing gnome, or a valid WM.
[04:59] <brasko_> do you still recomend the sudo command?
[04:59] <Delvien> cafuego heya, do you know where the C Header files that match the running kernal are? VMware is asking for them.  But the default it is looking for doesnt have them. evedently
[04:59] <johndarkhorse> Delvien: kernel-headers
[04:59] <Delvien> johndarkhorse i installed them , but it still doesnt show them
[04:59] <johndarkhorse> Delvien: or kernel-source (i can't ever  remember)
[05:00] <evilghost> Delvien:  apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:00] <dragoon> johndarkhorse, that's the package name for Fedora, not debian.
[05:00] <evilghost> Delvien:  also, apt-get install build-essential (most likely what you are looking for as well)
[05:00] <Delvien> evilghost installed that too, nothing
[05:01] <leagris> hello
[05:01] <dragoon> Seems like linux-kernel-headers is what you want, from dpkg *kernel*
[05:01] <Delvien> evilghost idk its looking in/usr/src/linux/include
[05:01] <leagris> anyone can help with reading dvd issue ?
[05:01] <tuv> sudo hddtemp /dev/sda returns valid temp. while telnet localhost 7634 returns unk (unknown).. what could be wrong?
[05:01] <evilghost> Delvien:  What error/issue are you having, there are issues with GCC 3.4 and the newer GCC with breezy.
[05:01] <brasko_> This is totoally frustrating
[05:01] <leagris> I have read and followed instruction on the non-free format section of the wiki
[05:02] <brasko_> Is Breezy the correct CD to install?
[05:02] <evilghost> brakso_:  Did you try installing gnome as I instructed? :)
[05:02] <brasko_> well, I did. I'll show you the output
[05:02] <leagris> but libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[05:02] <Hoxzer> what software would be good to check my cpu tempature?
[05:02] <crimsun> acpi -t
[05:02] <brasko_> Package gnome is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:02] <brasko_> ...
[05:02] <Delvien> evilghost its just asking for those headers.. Im installing Vmware
[05:02] <evilghost> brakso_:  What does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[05:02] <tuv> how can i get hddtemp to work correctly in daemon mode so that gkrellm can read from it?
[05:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell leagris about livdvdcss2
[05:02] <liquidboy> ive got xfm installed, how do i start it? (typing xfm in a command line does nothing)
[05:03] <poningru> Hoxzer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto?highlight=%28sensor%29
[05:03] <poningru> !sensor
[05:03] <ubotu> sensor is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[05:03] <Delvien> evilghost i exported the gcc3.4 now, see if it works
[05:03] <evilghost> Delvien:  You have build-essential, kernel-source, and linux-headers-`uname -r` right?
[05:03] <timfrost> evilghost, gcc 3.4 is what the kernel for breezy is built with.  VMWare needs to build a module with that compiler
[05:03] <leagris> johndarkhorse, I installed libdvdcss2 and install script as stated in the wiki.ubuntu
[05:03] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell leagris about libdvdcss2
[05:03] <Delvien> evilghost yeppers
[05:03] <Locke> does anyone know how to set up surround sound?
[05:03] <Eleaf> HI!
[05:03] <evilghost> Delvien:  Ok, that is a known issue with the Nvidia drivers as well (that's where I remember if from), hopefully that'll fix it.
[05:03] <brasko_> what would an interesting line be? There's a few (WW), but they look OK
[05:03] <crimsun> Locke: which music app are you using?
[05:03] <johndarkhorse> leagris: oh, ok. is your player pointed at the proper mount point?
[05:04] <evilghost> brakso_:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep -i EE
[05:04] <Delvien> evilghost that did it
[05:04] <evilghost> Delvien:  Sweetness ;)
[05:04] <Locke> crimsun: whichever you like the best, i guarantee i have it, lol, but XMMS at the moment
[05:04] <Delvien> evilghost got a bunch of other erros though :(
[05:04] <crimsun> Locke: what config are you trying to use?
[05:04] <brasko_> no lines start with that
[05:04] <evilghost> Delvien:  There isn't a deb package for VMWware?
[05:04] <Delvien> evilghost is there?
[05:05] <leagris> johndarkhorse, yes it is /dev/hdc -> /dev/dvd
[05:05] <brasko_> What's the default window manager for gnome on ubuntu?
[05:05] <leagris> /dev/hdc is the dvd drive
[05:05] <Delvien> evilghost (im running dapper right now)
[05:05] <brasko_> Is it swordfish? or something like that?
[05:05] <Jeff12088> =o my first time editing a wiki entry
[05:05] <Locke> crimsun: i have no idea, all i know is i just got these 5.1 speakers and i have a 7.1 card, but no matter what i do it doesn't play sound out the center, or 2 rear speakers
[05:05] <BlueEagle> Happy new year!
[05:05] <evilghost> brasko_:  Gnome I believe, unless you install KUbuntu
[05:05] <tuv> anybody using hddtemp with gkrellm??
[05:05] <liquidboy> :P
[05:05] <skiy> Happy new year to you also BlueEagle
[05:05] <crimsun> Locke: then you need to use plug:surround51 or plug:surround71 as the device in the ALSA output plugin's selection
[05:05] <ed_> happy new years to all!!!!!!!
[05:06] <skiy> ed_: ho ho ho... wait, that was xmas
[05:06] <crimsun> Locke: and make sure you've unmuted and increased the appropriate LFE, Center, Rear, Surround mixer elements
[05:06] <brasko_> evilghost: Yeah, well, gnome isn't a window manager, right?
[05:06] <Jeff12088> Happy new years.. just 4 more hours here
[05:06] <brasko_> I mean, I'm running gnome now
[05:06] <brasko_> That's not the problem.
[05:06] <brasko_> I just don't have a window manager for some reason
[05:06] <skiy> brasko neither is kde, if you want to be pedantic :)
[05:06] <Locke> how do i get to ALSA output?
[05:06] <skiy> brasko go to a Virtual Terminal "Ctrl-Alt-F1"
[05:06] <evilghost> brasko: right
[05:06] <brasko_> right, so what's the default window manager gnome uses with ubuntu?
[05:06] <brasko_> skiy: OK, then what?
[05:07] <skiy> brasko type "EXPORT DISPLAY=:0"
[05:07] <skiy> then "metacity"
[05:07] <crimsun> Locke: options-> preferences
[05:07] <timfrost> Delvien, have a look at the Wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare
[05:07] <brasko_> OK
[05:07] <Locke> crimsun: then what?
[05:07] <Jeff12088> check out this site www.neave.com awsome design
[05:07] <SWAT> is there a BOINC project going on for treating cancer? (does anyone know by any chance?)
[05:07] <crimsun> Locke: plugins?
[05:07] <skiy> brasko PS, the WM is called metacity, this should start it for you, but if you see errors, tell us what they are :)
[05:08] <brasko_> hahah, nice!
[05:08] <Locke> crimsun: i don't see anything that says plugins
[05:08] <brasko_> skiy: that definatly fixed the problem
[05:08] <crimsun> Locke: output?
[05:08] <timfrost> Delvien, note thast the Wili article is for breezy, so assumes the breezy compiler versions
[05:08] <leagris> johndarkhorse, any idea ?
[05:08] <brasko_> so, why wouldn't that start by default?
[05:08] <crimsun> Locke: I don't have xmms installed; just read the tabs
[05:08] <brasko_> man, it's nice to have a window manager :)
[05:08] <skiy> brasko_ :) glad to help
[05:08] <brasko_> I remember I used to use swordfish, or something like that
[05:09] <brasko_> Now, how to automate it?
[05:09] <skiy> brasko_, Maybe edit ~/.xinitrc and see what is in there
[05:09] <djm62> brasko_: those were the days....
[05:09] <Locke> crimsun: well if you know how to do it on another media player which is that, cuz i will download it if it will work
[05:09] <brasko_> geez, I thought debian/testing kept me up to date
[05:09] <Hoxzer> eh.... could you guys lett me know where is lm-sersors source directory located?
[05:09] <skiy> brasko, maybe put two lines "metacity &" and "exec gnome-session"
[05:09] <brasko_> absolutly everything is different here
[05:10] <crimsun> Locke: give me a screenshot (pastebin) of your options screen in xmms
[05:10] <waveblaster> is there a apt repository for mythtv or freevo for hoary??????
[05:10] <crimsun> !info mythtv
[05:10] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.18.1-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[05:10] <waveblaster> ta
[05:10] <waveblaster> !info mythtv
[05:10] <Delvien> timfrost aye, reading it over tonight, i think i ran the update instead of the confige like the last time i installed VMware
[05:10] <n2zstik> hi..i've an ipw2100 wireless adapter...how to unload it during boot?
[05:10] <brasko_> The last line is 'exec $WINDOWMANAGER'
[05:10] <matt_> hello
[05:11] <brasko_> so that variable must not be set in the script for some reason
[05:11] <Hoxzer> damn...
[05:11] <leagris> I followed instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28dvd%29
[05:11] <leagris> but DVD reading sill fail
[05:11] <brasko_> $ env|grep WINDOWMANAGER
[05:11] <brasko_> WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/bin/gnome-session
[05:11] <leagris> libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[05:11] <brasko_> I wonder why that is set :)
[05:11] <Locke> crimsun whats the pastebin url again?
[05:11] <crimsun> !pastebin
[05:11] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:12] <Locke> !pastebin
[05:12] <tuv> why hddtemp work interactively but doesn't in /etc/init.d/hddtemp ?
[05:12] <brasko_> in my .bashrc I have
[05:12] <brasko_> export WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/bin/gnome-session
[05:12] <brasko_> Is this correct?
[05:13] <brasko_> or from my old debian install?
[05:13] <waveblaster> crimsun !info mythtv isnt exactly helpful
[05:13] <crimsun> waveblaster: sure it is
[05:13] <johndarkhorse> leagris: try /media/cdrom or cdrom0
[05:13] <crimsun> !info mythtv hoary
[05:13] <evilghost> brasko_:  Let me check my system.
[05:13] <brasko_> evilghost: Thanks!
[05:13] <tuv> leagris: what dvd player are you using?
[05:13] <crimsun> note that the info output by default is for breezy.
[05:13] <Locke> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6435
[05:14] <evilghost> brasko_:  I don't have the WINDOWMANAGER option set in my ~/.bashrc
[05:14] <brasko_> OK, I'll take it out
 No idea
[05:14] <evilghost> brasko_: env|grep WINDOWMANAGER returns no value/null.
[05:14] <crimsun> Locke: audio plugins
[05:14] <brasko_> That sounds like my problem
[05:14] <brasko_> I probably set that in my last debian install for some reason
[05:14] <brasko_> be back, to test this out!
[05:14] <leagris> tuv Model=TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1612, FwRev=1004
[05:14] <Locke> crimsun: i don't see anything for surround51
[05:15] <leagris> worked fine with Mandrake 9.2
[05:15] <leagris> and worked fine as well with Mandrake 10.3
[05:15] <tuv> leagris: no i meant the software you are using to play dvd
[05:15] <crimsun> Locke: choose the alsa output plugin
[05:15] <Locke> crimusn: ok... i tried that, and nothing
[05:15] <leagris> tuv, Totem fails telling my I may be trying to play a protected DVD
[05:15] <Delvien> timfrost evilghost http://pastebin.com/485844
[05:16] <leagris> xine fail it can't handle dvd://
[05:16] <bshumate> !beer
[05:16] <johndarkhorse> leagris: welcome to the world of legal warnings as a standard
[05:16] <tuv> leagris: i'd try ogle before i run into troubleshooting
[05:16] <evilghost> Delvien: Enroute
[05:16] <leagris> tuv ogle is a joke, but I try now
[05:17] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:17] <ubuntu_> happy new year 2006
[05:17] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:17] <leagris> ogle complains as well with libdvdread: Can't open /dev/dvd for reading
[05:17] <tuv> i've a file that i want run at boot but by user not root.. can this be done in /etc/init.d/
[05:17] <tuv> ?
[05:17] <leagris> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2006-01-01 04:58 /dev/dvd -> hdc
[05:17] <Locke> crimsun: ... thanks for the help i suppose, it helped me a lot more than i was helping myself, heh
[05:17] <johndarkhorse> leagris: point your player at /media/cdrom or /media/cdrom0
[05:18] <ubuntu_> dose anyone know the password for admin in Ubuntu 5.10
[05:18] <ubuntu_> ??
[05:18] <evilghost> Delvien:  Check Google, seeing lots of folks with same issues on Kernel 2.6.x
[05:18] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell ubuntu_ about sudo
[05:18] <leagris> that work with pointing to /media/cdrom0 why ?
[05:18] <ubuntu_> cuz i don't know what is the password .. version 5.10
[05:18] <johndarkhorse> leagris: ubuntu doesnt use the standard the the player was compiled with
[05:18] <leagris> whay can't it handle dvd:// MRL ?
[05:19] <Davey`> I just saw this on the forums: To put the menu bar of the current application on the top of the screen, Go to System Settings -> Desktop -> General and set the preference there.
[05:19] <Davey`> but I can't find that menu combination
[05:19] <Jeff12088> hi bob
[05:19] <Delvien> evilghost what exactly is the problem though? some header im missing?
[05:19] <Davey`> anyone know what it should be?
[05:19] <leagris> may I linke /dev/dvd to /meda/cdrom0 ?
[05:19] <leagris> When I insert the CD totem is automatically launched
[05:19] <jindol2k> d
[05:19] <ubuntu_> johndarkhorse , i'm using Vmware Version
[05:19] <brasko_> hey guys, things are definatly getting better.
[05:19] <leagris> but It wont launch dvd reading
[05:19] <bshumate> tuv: you could put a line in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh like : su [user]  -c [command]  to have the command run at boot time as a specific non uid 0 user...
[05:19] <evilghost> Delvien:  No, I think it's a header/kernel version difference, with 2.6.x not being supported by vmware.
[05:20] <brasko_> however, metacity doesn't start up by default?
[05:20] <evilghost> Delvien:  But that's just a SWAG.
[05:20] <brasko_> I would really like to get this to work this year! :)
[05:20] <brasko_> Does the .xinitrc file get used when the system starts?
[05:20] <Locke> crimsun: any idea where i can get the surround51 plugin?
[05:20] <evilghost> brasko_:  Yeah, let me check my stuff
[05:20] <bshumate> brasko_: you still mucking about with VNC?
[05:21] <brasko_> no, not VNC, I'm native on the linux box
[05:21] <brasko_> The window manager doesn't start by default
[05:21] <brasko_> I have to start it
[05:21] <tuv> bshumate: hmm.. will try that.. thanks
[05:21] <brasko_> I'm wondering if root starts the window manager, or my local user?
[05:21] <bshumate> brasko_: ahh...bummer.
[05:21] <brasko_> on a fresh boot
[05:22] <brasko_> If I new which command it was, I could probalby keep starting it, until ti works
[05:22] <rooo_> hi guys ... i used to use pine for mails. Any ncurses mail you guys can recommend?
[05:22] <brasko_> yeah, mutt
[05:22] <evilghost> brasko_:  I"m not sure where I define my WM either, I'm looking here locally.
[05:22] <rooo_> bra1nf00d: thanks
[05:22] <brasko_> I've been using it for years. works nice.
[05:22] <rooo_> brasko_: thanks
[05:22] <crimsun> Locke: you don't need to download anything
[05:22] <crimsun> Locke: are you looking at the alsa plugin preferences?
[05:22] <Locke> crimsun: yes
[05:22] <intelikey> brasko unless it has changed X runs as root.    when a user does a startx  it is suid 0
[05:23] <brasko_> so when I boot the machine, is there a log of the stuff that it does?
[05:23] <timfrost> brasko_, .xinitrc is not installed by breezy.  It must be an artifact of another distribution.
[05:23] <crimsun> Locke: in the device selection text entry field/drop-down menu, you can type: plug:surround51
[05:23] <brasko_> Yeah, unfortunatly I had debian installed before
[05:23] <Delvien> evilghost might it be because im running the new kernal 2.6.15?
[05:23] <evilghost> Delvien:  That would be my guess :)
[05:23] <intelikey> brasko dmesg
[05:24] <brasko_> isn't that kernal startup? Does it have all the services too? like X?
[05:24] <Locke> crimsun: alright... that didn't work
[05:24] <evilghost> brasko_:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log is the Xorg startup log
[05:24] <ubuntu_> Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[05:24] <ubuntu_>  No password was supplied and sudo needs
[05:24] <intelikey> no just kernel. brasko look in /var/log/
[05:24] <Delvien> evilghost crap... i need to put some Mp3s on my Philips Gogear
[05:25] <brasko_> right, X was started, but from where?
[05:25] <evilghost> brasko_:  THis looks very promising and you can adapt it to Gnome:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88393&highlight=set+wm
[05:25] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell ubuntu_ about root
[05:25] <timfrost> brasko_, evilghost, the startup is under /etc/X11/gdm, and logs in /var/log/Xorg.<display>.0
[05:25] <intelikey> brasko  gdm ?
[05:25] <johndarkhorse> ubuntu_: use YOUR password with sudo
[05:25] <crimsun> Locke: what did you try?
[05:25] <purpleheart_USMC> anyone know where to get cheap monitors?
[05:25] <evilghost> timfrost:  Thanks, was never sure.
[05:25] <Locke> crimsun: i typed plug:surround51 and applied it and nothing different happened
[05:26] <crimsun> Locke: what about your mixer elements?
[05:26] <brasko_> timfrost: Is there supposed to be a window manager line in gdm.conf?
[05:26] <ubuntu_> johndarkhorse , i download vmware version i don't know the password ..
[05:26] <Smirker_> nobody would happen to know of a mobile phone that I can plug into my computer and access it (multimedia messages) through an SDK?
[05:26] <ubuntu_> johndarkhorse , it's on official website
[05:27] <Locke> crimusn: CA0106 is my mixer card and my mixer device is Analog Center/LFE
[05:27] <intelikey> i don't use gdm so idk brasko
[05:27] <evilghost> brasko_: My gdm.conf is full of stuff; 21K.
[05:27] <paul_> anyone know how to get rid of this error? http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/498/error18uy.png
[05:27] <Jeff12088> GAIM rocks
[05:28] <brasko_> I prefer pork
[05:28] <evilghost> Locke:  Your card doesn't support hardware mixing as FYI.
[05:28] <intelikey> but the ~/.wmrc file generally is read in on login
[05:28] <brasko_> It's an ncurses client, that you can use over ssh, and acts like irc
[05:28] <timfrost> brasko_, xorg is starrted by /etc/init.d/xorg-common, and uses scripts under /etx/X11/gdm/ (or /etc/gdm), and one of those starts the window manager
[05:28] <Locke> evilghost: i have no idea what that means
[05:29] <Jeff12088> be right back
[05:29] <evilghost> Locke:  It means while you may think you have a good card (ala Win32 DirectPlay), you are only capable at one sound at a time, and software is forced to mix it.  You're having sound issues right?
[05:29] <evilghost> Locke:  Example, if ESD is running game-sounds wont' run without DMIX or another software mixing alternative.
[05:29] <Locke> evilghost: all i'm trying to do is get surround sound to work with this card
[05:30] <evilghost> Locke:  5.1 or 7.1?
[05:30] <evilghost> Locke:  Bet it's a Sound Blaster 24Bit, right?
[05:30] <Locke> evilghost: 5.1
[05:30] <Locke> evilghost: ...
[05:30] <Locke> possibly...
[05:30] <evilghost> Locke:  It's garbage, there's not enough ammunition to destroy it.... :)
[05:30] <evilghost> Locke:  Where are you located?
[05:30] <crimsun> Locke: paste your amixer output onto pastebin
[05:30] <Locke> evilghost: what do you mean where am i located?
[05:31] <evilghost> Locke:  You want an EMU10k1 card (chipset) that supports 32ch hardware mixing.
[05:31] <Locke> crimsun: amixer output?
[05:31] <crimsun> ``amixer''
[05:31] <crimsun> pastebin the outut
[05:32] <intelikey> p
[05:32] <brasko_> crap, so should I just modify one of the startup files?
[05:32] <evilghost> Locke:  I've got an EMU10K1 Sound Blaster 5.1 that's yours; supports 32CH hardware mixing, if you want it.
[05:32] <Locke> crimsun: where is amixer?
[05:32] <brasko_> or is there a clean way to do this?
[05:32] <evilghost> Locke:  If you're US, I'll give/ship for free, if outside US, no go.
[05:32] <brasko_> I mean, should I remove the .xinitrc?
[05:32] <brasko_> or move it at least
[05:32] <Locke> evilghost: thats alright, i'm in US, but i have plenty of cards i could probably get from other people
[05:32] <evilghost> Locke:  The emu10k1 is the answer.
[05:32] <intelikey> it's safe to move it and test yes
[05:33] <evilghost> Locke:  Make sure you get that card/chipset, I've got an EMU10k1-NEF, the emu10k1-sef are fine too.
[05:33] <Locke> !pastebin
[05:33] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:33] <evilghost> Locke:  The answer is emu10k1, none of the new Sound Blaster cards are going to support hardware mixing, it's cost-cutting BS as a result of "DirectPlay" and other Direct3D nonsense (sacrifice CPU cycles for software mixing versus providing robust hardware (legacy) to do hardware)
[05:34] <crimsun> Locke: just open a Terminal and type amixer
[05:34] <Locke> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6436
[05:35] <paum> How can I get WinAmp type files to play on Ubuntu Linux? Rythmbox seems lame; it doesn't recognize anything.
[05:35] <Shadyman> !mp3
[05:35] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:35] <Shadyman> paum: Go there.
[05:36] <paum> I will go there. Thanks.
[05:36] <bob_> I mean, this is unbelievable. Does everyone's window manager just work by default? haha
[05:36] <Shadyman> bob_: Explain?
[05:36] <Locke> bob_: yes, what do you mean?
[05:36] <crimsun> Locke: use speaker-test
[05:36] <bob_> I just installed ubuntu today. It comes with gnome and X, which start nice. However, metacity is not running. I have to start it manutally.
[05:37] <paul_> anyone know how to get rid of this error? http://img496.imageshack.us/img496/498/error18uy.png
[05:37] <bob_> This could be an artifact of me having debian installed before, and either my .xinit or other files are screwing this up, or I have some env vars set?
[05:37] <Locke> crimsun: all it's doing is saying 0 - Front Left and playing out my 2 front speakers
[05:38] <evilghost> paul_:  Umm, are you serious?  So...you've got an EXE running on startup, possibly without WINE?
[05:38] <evilghost> paul_:  Linux != Win32.
[05:38] <Locke> crimsun: i just realized something
[05:38] <bob_> I have DESKTOP_SESSION=gnome, GDMSESSION=gnome, GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID=Default set
[05:39] <bob_> so the wierd thing is, I can't even find where metacity should start up.
[05:39] <crimsun> Locke: you have to tell speaker-test to test 6 channels
[05:39] <Locke> crimsun: i looked at this and it says it has only 1 channel, so i checked what card i have and it says i have an Audigy... when i know i have a 7.1 card :-\
[05:39] <Locke> crimsun: how?
[05:39] <crimsun> Locke: read the documentation
[05:39] <bshumate> bob_ / brasko_: there is no directive for specifying a WM in gdm.conf... however, "gnome-session" does appear in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc which in turn is called by /etc/X11/Xsession when starting X (by default / with gnome, etc. etc. anyway) so you may wanna investigate your config in that respect... metacity gets fired up by gnome-session
[05:40] <bob_> oops, sorry
[05:40] <evilghost> Locke:  You have a CA chipset, you're not going to be able to do hardware mixing nor 7.1/5.1 until you use the correct (compiled) module (try lsmod, and see if you have CAXXXX listed as a module), and even so, you're using a crippled soundcard.  You would be best to use a emu10k1 card.
[05:40] <evilghost> Locke:  And you won't be using hardware mixing even with the CAXXXX module...
[05:41] <evilghost> brasko_:  You're an odd-ball out, tell me how you installed 5.10.  I think you're anything but "standard" at this point :)
[05:41] <evilghost> brasko_:  Did you leave your existing filesystem intact?
[05:41] <brasko_> hahaha, no kidding. I redid the / and left the /home the way it was.
[05:42] <Locke> crimsun/evilghost: i'm just going to give up and go with my first assumption when i got these speakers, get a brand new sound card ANYWAYS
[05:42] <brasko_> bshumate: that's interesting help, and semi confusing to me. since I'm not a desktop expert
[05:42] <bshumate> brasko_: if that is the case, then perhaps you should not have an ~/.xinitrc as Ubuntu does not create one by default, and that could be screwing you up...
[05:42] <crimsun> Locke: you're using snd-ca0106, I presume
[05:42] <crimsun> Locke: lsmod|grep ^snd_ca0106
[05:42] <brasko_> I moved it to .xinitrc.bak
[05:42] <evilghost> Locke:  Regardless, ensure it's an emu10k1, I'm trying to share 1 month worth of researching/experience.
[05:43] <evilghost> Locke:  http://klumpp.net/blog/archives/22-Linux-Soundcards-CA0106-sucks,-EMU10k1k2-is-the-way-to-go..html
[05:43] <brasko_> This is interseting, # If we are running the GNOME session, source ~/.gnomerc
[05:43] <brasko_> Does anyone have anything in that file?
[05:43] <evilghost> brasko_:  Here's some food for thought, perhaps try adding a new user, wouldn't permissions be screwed up if you left the filesystem intact with a different UID/GID on the /home folders?
[05:43] <Locke> crimsun/evilghost: i'm just going to give up and go with my first assumption when i got these speakers, get a brand new sound card ANYWAYS
[05:44] <Locke> wtf!?!?
[05:44] <brasko_> That's a good point.
[05:44] <Locke> sry, accident
[05:44] <evilghost> Locke:  Np
[05:44] <Locke> crimsun: what was that command supposed to do?
[05:44] <brasko_>  Is the .xsession the correct file maybe?
[05:44] <fenris> hi
[05:44] <evilghost> fenris:  A/S?L?
[05:44] <Locke> crimsun: all it did was just say snd_ca0106             27172  2
[05:44] <crimsun> Locke: correct.
[05:44] <brasko_> Wow, that script definatly looks for .xinitrc
[05:44] <evilghost> Locke:  Please see http://klumpp.net/blog/archives/22-Linux-Soundcards-CA0106-sucks,-EMU10k1k2-is-the-way-to-go..html and then get an emu10k1 card, you're just wasting your own time.
[05:45] <johndarkhorse> evilghost: a/s/l goes in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:45] <fenris> evilghost: ??
[05:45] <evilghost> johndarkhorse:  Was a joke, poorly executed.
[05:45] <Locke> evilghost: ok, i make 8 dollars an hour and go to college along with living on my own, i really don't have money to eat let alone buy sound cards
[05:45] <intelikey> brasko may i sujest that you sudo adduser  blah    and login as  blah    then compare the home dirs of  blah and you
[05:45] <brasko_> OK
[05:45] <brasko_> I'll do it
[05:45] <brasko_> :q
[05:46] <Shadyman> !enter
[05:46] <evilghost> Locke:  I've offered to send you a card for free, I purchased 10 on ebay for $50, and have already made my $50 back and have a surplus of 5 cards.
[05:46] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:46] <intelikey> Shadyman you've been just waiting to do that i supose
[05:46] <Shadyman> intelikey: You are correct.
[05:47] <Locke> evilghost: no offense to you or the type of person you are, but i don't give my address out to people online too often
[05:47] <Locke> crimsun: ok... if it's correct... then what does that mean?
[05:47] <evilghost> Locke:  No problem and understood, so get an emu10k1 card or a card that has decent linux support and resolve your troubles.
[05:48] <Locke> evilghost: i will when i come across a bit of money, but i live in a town with 4 people a horse and a college, the nearest bestbuy is 2 towns away
[05:48] <evilghost> Locke:  BTW, you should look at my forum post history on http://www.ubuntuforums.org and the 5 cards I've sent to members.  I'm the guy with the NRA logo.
[05:48] <brasko_> yup, you guys are smart :)
[05:48] <brasko_> That definatly fixes the problem
[05:48] <Goldfisch> I haven't utilized the S/PDIF port on my mother yet. It is any good to pipe sound to my surround sound system for recorded shows?
[05:48] <evilghost> Locke:  Until then forget 5.1 sound and even basic soundcard functionality.
[05:48] <Goldfisch> motherboard
[05:48] <brasko_> How do I remove the user I just created?
[05:49] <Locke> evilghost: it works fine on Windows, just not on Linux for some reason
[05:49] <intelikey> sudo deluser
[05:49] <evilghost> brasko_:  Sweetness, it's permissions on the ext2/3 filesystem eh?
[05:49] <intelikey> or is it userdel ?
[05:49] <Locke> evilghost: and Windows can burn before i move back just to have 3 extra speakers to use
[05:49] <evilghost> Locke:  You think it could be this magic DirectSound/Direct3d I've been posting about 5 posts ago?
[05:49] <bshumate> intelikey: it's both actually ;-)
[05:49] <brasko_> I have no idea how to determine what is screwing it up
[05:49] <crimsun> Locke: it was a sanity check
[05:49] <brasko_> I'd kind of like to just keep a new user, and copy the stuff I need
[05:49] <Locke> crimsun: o...k..?
[05:49] <crimsun> Locke: any results from speaker-test with 6 channels?
[05:49] <brasko_> have a fresh start
[05:49] <Locke> crimsun: yes, only the 2 front speakers worked
[05:49] <intelikey> one of them works and the other only removes the entry in /etc/passwd i think
[05:50] <brasko_> can I do 'mv /home/bob /home/bob.bak
[05:50] <evilghost> brasko_:  Good luck with your "standard" install :p
[05:50] <brasko_> and then add "bob" as a new user?
[05:50] <crimsun> Locke: what parameters did you pass to speaker-test?
[05:50] <brasko_> hahaha, no kidding, I figured this was my fault, ubuntu seems awesome!
[05:50] <evilghost> brakso_:  Yeah, I think so as long as bob doesn't exist in /etc/passwd
[05:50] <intelikey> brasko if bob is not logged in
[05:50] <brasko_> and the help is unbelievable!
[05:51] <Locke> crimsun: speaker-test -c 6
[05:51] <brasko_> Yeah, bob is already in /etc/passwd
[05:51] <brasko_> so if I move /home/bob to /home/bob.bak
[05:51] <brasko_> then delete bob
[05:51] <brasko_> then add bob
[05:51] <brasko_> would that be nice?
[05:52] <bshumate> brasko_ : for your user account, simply do not have an .xinitrc, and .xsession, or Xsession file in your home directory, and that is about all that can override the X settings... do you have an .xsession or Xsession in your current home directory?
[05:52] <evilghost> Locke:  As FYI, the module you have loaded for CA0106 doesn't support 5.1/7.1
[05:52] <intelikey> brasko_  you will want to mv /home/bob /home/bob.back ;mkdir /home/bob    it's easier
[05:52] <crimsun> Locke: you totally ignored the part where I asked you to read the man page, didn't you?
[05:52] <brasko_> OK
[05:52] <evilghost> crimsum:  It doesn't matter, that card will not/does not support 5.1/7.1 nor hardware mixing through Linux, it's a Win32 "only" card with very limited support in Linux.
[05:52] <brasko_> haha, I don't have a hang of this sudo thing.
[05:52] <crimsun> Locke: there's an example explicitly in the man page for testing 5.1
[05:53] <brasko_> I do 'sudo mv bob bob.bak', it completes with no password prompt, and the folder didn't move
[05:53] <evilghost> brasko_: You could always "sudo passwd root" and set a root passwd, then "su"
[05:53] <fenris> hm, i tried to build the lirc modules from the lirc-modules-source package, but without compiling my own kernel... everything worked fine, but the resulting .deb contains *.o instead of *.ko files, and if i try to insmod them it complains about "invalid module format"
[05:53] <fenris> any ideas?
[05:54] <crimsun> evilghost: it does support 4.0 and 5.1
[05:54] <intelikey> brasko_ bob is where ?     (PATH)
[05:54] <brasko_> haha, sorry.
[05:54] <brasko_> bob is in /home/bob
[05:54] <evilghost> crimsun:  Good luck....
[05:54] <crimsun> evilghost: mm?
[05:54] <brasko_> I never have problems with simple sysadmin like this
[05:55] <brasko_> not used to sudo or something
[05:55] <intelikey>  brasko_  and just use deluser and adduser you wont have permission errors
[05:55] <brasko_> yeah, I need to move /home/bob first, but I can't
[05:55] <evilghost> chown it.
[05:55] <brasko_> I don't want to loose the files there.
[05:55] <evilghost> brasko_:  sudo chown -R root:root /home/bob
[05:56] <brasko_> why would I need to do that?
[05:56] <brasko_> Why can't I just 'sudo mv bob bob.bak'?
[05:56] <evilghost> brasko_:  because root doesn't have permissions?  You tried to "stat /home/bob" ?
[05:56] <paul_> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[05:56] <paul_>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[05:56] <intelikey>  brasko_  let me guess...... mmm you are not in /home/   :)
[05:56] <paul_> crap
[05:57] <brasko_> no, I definatly am
[05:57] <brasko_> again, I'm logged in as foo, in /home
[05:57] <intelikey>  brasko_  bob logged in ?
[05:57] <evilghost> brasko_:  root doesn't have access to /home/bob
[05:57] <evilghost> brasko_:  So when you sudo; no access?
[05:57] <paul_> case sensitive
[05:57] <intelikey> root has access to every thing
[05:57] <brasko_> actually, geez, I'm lost. If I do 'sudo yyy', it doesn't work
[05:57] <evilghost> intelikey:  Octal 000 means root has access?
[05:58] <brasko_> like, 'sudo ls'
[05:58] <intelikey> ye[
[05:58] <brasko_> shouldn't that work? 'sudo ls'?
[05:58] <djm62> brasko_: if you add another user, that user isn't on the sudoers list
[05:58] <evilghost> intelikey:  To chmod/chgrp, but not rwxd.
[05:58] <brasko_> O, I see
[05:58] <djm62> brasko_: /etc/sudoers
[05:58] <brasko_> nice!
[05:58] <intelikey> evilghost do a chmod 0000 text.file   then read/write to it as root you will see
[05:59] <bshumate> danger Will Robinson....danger!!!.... :-/
[05:59] <djm62> brasko_: (reasonably sensible default, just happens to trip you up ;) )
[05:59] <evilghost> intelikey:  You're correct, thanks.
[05:59] <brasko_> OK, thanks! directly removed
[06:00] <evilghost> intelikey:  Sorry for seeding mis-information.
[06:00] <intelikey> np
[06:00] <brasko_> moved rahter
[06:01] <brasko_> I can't modify /etc/sudoers
[06:01] <brasko_> Anyways, Happy New Year!
[06:02] <mebsd> happy new year!
[06:02] <P8ntKid> Happy new year!
[06:02] <evilghost> not yet
[06:02] <evilghost> but thanks
[06:02] <brasko_> not on the east coast, eh?
[06:03] <sda3mon> hey when i try to run a root-requiring app in gnome and it brings up that little password prompt, it tells me the password is wrong...but i put the right password, not an idiot ya know...i can 'su' into root from a console too
[06:03] <mebsd> happy new year on east coast
[06:03] <intelikey> so with no root password, and wanting to do delicate administration like this one could in a console 'sudo openvt -f bash '   and exit exit   switch to the open root console do the work and switch back for testing before exiting the root console ......
[06:03] <brasko_> well, I need to add foo to the sudoers list. otherwise, when I delete bob, I won't have a user to add another user
[06:04] <bshumate> brasko_: sudo visudo
[06:04] <evilghost> goldfish: i shot explosives
[06:04] <vbgunz> Happy New Years!
[06:04] <intelikey>  brasko_  just add foo the the admin group it's already in sudoers
[06:04] <brasko_> I don't mind using vim, just don't know the line to add
[06:05] <brasko_> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:05] <brasko_> that line? what should it be changed to?
[06:05] <intelikey> yeah get out of there.  and just add foo the the group 'admin'
[06:05] <brasko_> O, it says it must be edited with the visudo command, OK
[06:05] <bshumate> brasko_: go easy on yourself and do what intelikey said... just add foo to the admin group
[06:06] <intelikey> usermod
[06:06] <brasko_> very nice
[06:06] <n2zstik> how do i access a printer connected to a desktop winXP wirelessly from my ubuntu laptop??helppp
[06:06] <intelikey> man usermod
[06:06] <brasko_> I edited /etc/group, hope that was correct
[06:06] <brasko_> I can do sudo ls now as foo!
[06:07] <intelikey> then you are in
[06:07] <brasko_> so, as foo, I should do 'deluser bob'?
[06:07] <mase> how come sudo only works with your current user password but not root's password
[06:07] <intelikey> yeah
[06:07] <hodge> ...
[06:07] <brasko_> be back! hopefully :)
[06:07] <johndarkhorse> mase: because that's how sudo works
[06:07] <bshumate> mase: in a default Ubuntu install there is no root password
[06:07] <hodge> try
[06:07] <bshumate> !tell mase about RootSudo
[06:07] <intelikey> mase it should work ok with root password if you are root when you call sudo
[06:08] <hodge> root password is what u assigned it
[06:08] <intelikey> although calling sudo as root is kinda redundant
[06:08] <hodge> true
[06:08] <pashaw> intelikeyas right thats exactly why
[06:09] <Tharsis> Hi...and Happy New Year1
[06:09] <hodge> really
[06:09] <hodge> quite u
[06:09] <intelikey> exactly why what pashaw ?
[06:09] <Goldfisch> mase: The idea is through sudo granting users defined power without giving them the root password.
[06:09] <Tharsis> Q: How can I copy .jpg's from a CD over to Ubuntu folder/Desktop/ etc?  Thnaks!
[06:09] <pashaw> intelikey,   sudo is  completely seperate and redundant for
[06:10] <johndarkhorse> Tharsis: use nautilus
[06:10] <mase> i see
[06:10] <pashaw> intelikey,   uugg root    man too many drinks
[06:10] <Tharsis> Ahhh...thx!
[06:10] <hodge> geez just read the man page for sudo...
[06:10] <Goldfisch> People are mostly using sudo as an alternative to going into root shells all the time, because it leaves an audit trail in /var/log/auth.log
[06:11] <intelikey> Goldfisch if what you say is true, then using " %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL"  in sudoers is crazy as hell
[06:11] <Goldfisch> However, the sample sudoer's files show how you can hand out very detailed role definitions giving different people different administrative power if you needed to.
[06:11] <hodge> go to the directory and copy it to your desktop :)
[06:11] <hodge> again use the man command
[06:11] <Tharsis> OK
[06:11] <Goldfisch> intelikey: It's less crazy-as-hell than just going to "su -" all the time. :)
[06:11] <bob_> well, it worked!
[06:12] <brasko_> you guys are literally unbelievable!
[06:12] <hodge> good to hear
[06:12] <Goldfisch> ubuntu has trained me to start using sudo on my other debian systems, and its nice having an audit trail to fix things I do wrong.
[06:12] <hodge> how so
[06:12] <pashaw> Right sudo is limited  superuser  assigned to users   by the root)admin)  without giving root/su access
[06:12] <Inf3ctedFx> Happy New Year!!!!!
[06:12] <hodge> true
[06:12] <intelikey> hehhe not imo Goldfisch  but that is off toppic
[06:12] <Inf3ctedFx> Happy Christmas and merry new year xDD
[06:12] <hodge> geez
[06:12] <Locke> crimsun: (sorry, was celebrating new year, took a while to respond) no, i read the manual
[06:13] <hodge> stop saying that
[06:13] <pashaw> Goldfisch,   cant agree more  its is good practice    typing sudo   becomes second nature after awhile
[06:13] <hodge> yes
[06:13] <Goldfisch> If you're the only user of your system, their isn't much benefit to having fancy roles. But if you are managing an enterprise, well then...
[06:13] <hodge> its a powerful command
[06:13] <Tharsis> G'nite...Happy New Year all....
[06:14] <Goldfisch> pashaw: However, I noticed my debian systems don't seem to be enforcing the timeout policy. Maybe...I'l just have to convert them to ubuntu. :)
[06:14] <brasko_> Whoa, I love the updates tab in the Gnome!
[06:14] <pashaw> Goldfisch,   lol
[06:14] <hodge> yeah its good
[06:14] <brasko_> I feel like I've been living in the dark ages with gnome
[06:14] <brasko_> oops, debian I meant to say
[06:14] <hodge> why?
[06:15] <djstillman> Anyone get a tvtuner working in breezy?
[06:15] <intelikey> i couldn't agree more that there is a perfect place for sudo on large (multi-user) systems Goldfisch, but the avrage ubuntu box's root password it the user password  which is no advantage at all.
[06:15] <hodge> what do you find wrong with debian?
[06:15] <Goldfisch> BTW: Does ubuntu 64 kick butt like regular ubuntu?
[06:15] <hodge> same
[06:15] <brasko_> well, the software is really old, even when running testing
[06:16] <brasko_> and, already the look/feel of the gnome desktop seems much much nicer
[06:16] <hodge> yes
[06:16] <hodge> i agree
[06:16] <brasko_> and the update dialog is nice
[06:16] <hodge> doesn't really make a difference
[06:16] <brasko_> I already couldn't be more happy I upgraded.
[06:16] <pashaw> brasko,   ill still use vanilla debian for my servers,  but Ubuntu has learned from Debian/Knoppix/Kanoix   mistakes and clever ideas
[06:16] <brasko_> debian stable?
[06:16] <Goldfisch> You can install GNOME on a debian system. I installed the gnome-desktop a week ago.
[06:16] <hodge> more then windows :)
[06:16] <pashaw> brasko,   testing  i have 1 stable server
[06:17] <brasko_> Yeah, I had gnome installed.
[06:17] <brasko_> Quick broad question, why does ubuntu exist?
[06:17] <brasko_> instead of just debian?
[06:17] <crimsun> brasko_: wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[06:18] <hodge> because users use it
[06:18] <crimsun> it's a FAQ, go read.
[06:18] <brasko_> OK
[06:18] <pashaw> because he wanted to create his own distro  and enjoys doing just that
[06:18] <intelikey> hodge presactly
[06:18] <brasko_> nice, firefox 1.0.7, I wasn't that far advanced with debian
[06:19] <hodge> ?
[06:19] <intelikey> slang    i agree
[06:19] <hodge> firefox 1.5 is very good
[06:19] <kbrooks> bed: bye
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> with some crahses but works fine
[06:19] <brasko_> yeah, I had 1.0.4 or something on my debian box
[06:20] <brasko_> how, should I still use apt? or is there a prefered GUI?
[06:20] <brasko_> I've always used apt in the past
[06:20] <hodge> really?
[06:20] <hodge> nothing wrong with that
[06:20] <intelikey> apt is fine      but gui symantic
[06:20] <brasko_> OK, I'll try it
[06:21] <intelikey> synaptic
[06:21] <intelikey> heheh
[06:21] <djstillman> Hey guys, does anyone have a tv tuner working in breezy?
[06:22] <brasko_> OK, so when I run synaptic, how do I do the update command?
[06:22] <pashaw> brasko,   refresh
[06:23] <FlannelKing> Is there no longer a "run" command in the gnome menu?
[06:23] <intelikey> hover mouse over buttons for explanations
[06:23] <brasko_> O, OK
[06:23] <intelikey> FlannelKing try alt+f2  ?
[06:24] <bshumate> FlannelKing: you can right-click the panel and then click Add to Panel, and add one to your panel...
[06:24] <brasko_> O, so all the debian packages aren't available in ubuntu?
[06:24] <FlannelKing> ah, there we go.
[06:24] <brasko_> I was looking to install CGDB.
[06:24] <intelikey> !repos
[06:24] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:24] <intelikey> brasko_ ^
[06:24] <brasko_> hahah, I'm going down the typical newbie path, eh?
[06:24] <intelikey> yep
[06:25] <brasko_> is it bad to use the sources from the debian distro? instead of the default?
[06:25] <intelikey> source code,,, no   binary packages YES
[06:26] <brasko_> wierd.
[06:26] <Goldfisch> debian is not ubuntu is not debian
[06:26] <bshumate> brasko_ Ubuntu and Debian are binary incompatible, and things can, and will break if you do so.
[06:26] <brasko_> Whoa.
[06:26] <brasko_> I see
[06:26] <pashaw> !debian
[06:26] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[06:26] <brasko_> OK, I won't install any then for now
[06:26] <brasko_> Until I learn more.
[06:26] <brasko_> I can't thank you guys enough!
[06:26] <intelikey> compiled with different glib's
[06:26] <brasko_> I'm taking off now, but thanks so much!
[06:27] <brasko_> I've got a working system.
[06:27] <brasko_> Definatly another ubuntu user.
[06:27] <brasko_> bye
[06:27] <intelikey> ^
[06:27] <coz> hello all
[06:27] <intelikey> ^
[06:28] <Friar> Happy New Year all.... What out of these 2 which do you prefer and why: Firefox/Epiphany?
[06:28] <intelikey> boy that is lazy, no?  using other peoples hello's and good bye's
[06:28] <coz> Thanks happy new year
[06:28] <coz> both
[06:28] <intelikey> hehhe knoqueror webbrowser  :)
[06:29] <coz> kde eeew
[06:29] <Friar> lol... i was expecting someone to say kynx
[06:29] <Friar> lynkx
[06:29] <pashaw> lynx
[06:29] <bshumate> links!
[06:29] <intelikey> na links   or elinks  maybe
[06:29] <Friar> which is kinda why i only named  2 :-)
[06:29] <bshumate> wget
[06:29] <sda3mon> how do i change the screen resolution under gnome?
[06:29] <intelikey> wget and mc
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> Would a ~/.Xmodmap not register for some reason if you got to your desktop with startx rather than /etc/init.d/gdm start?  My keycode settings aren't working at the moment.
[06:30] <coz> system preferences
[06:30] <sda3mon> coz: talkin to me?
[06:30] <Friar> System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[06:30] <coz> yes
[06:30] <Davey`> anyone every got gnome-launch-box to work?
[06:30] <sda3mon> yea nvm, got it...thanks a bunch
[06:30] <Davey`> I just saw this on the forums, the menu combo doesn't exist, does anyone know what it should be?: To put the menu bar of the current application on the top of the screen, Go to System Settings -> Desktop -> General and set the preference there.
[06:31] <sda3mon> hmmm...why can't i change my refresh rate? it only has 60 as an option, i know this monitor supports 75
[06:31] <sda3mon> startin to hurt my eyes
[06:31] <coz> same prob here sda3mon
[06:31] <sda3mon> coz: well this sucks
[06:32] <coz> tell me I have 19 " lcd in 1024 x768
[06:32] <coz> there is a way but it is a p ain
[06:32] <intelikey> Davey` probably does in some desktop/wm
[06:32] <sda3mon> ha
[06:32] <Davey`> intelikey: hrm, maybe KDE
[06:32] <pashaw> coz,   your LCD refresh rate hurts your eyes?
[06:32] <intelikey> maybe
[06:32] <coz> no mine is set at hold on let me check
[06:33] <Friar> I have a problem... when I select text in most apps and then press backspace my keyboard dies.  The only keys that seem to work are alt-ctrl and backspace after that
[06:33] <coz> 75 hrz
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> Can I manually load my .Xmodmap?
[06:33] <sda3mon> ah you're lucky coz
[06:33] <sda3mon> 60 is painful
[06:33] <coz> yes it is 75 is lowest for eye confort
[06:33] <coz> comfort
[06:33] <pashaw> coz,   LCD dont refresh like CRT does
[06:34] <coz> check the forums for changing the xorg.conf file
[06:34] <sda3mon> well i got it at 75 in plain old debian but not in ubuntu :(
[06:34] <sda3mon> ok
[06:34] <intelikey> tonyyarusso there may be a way to add it as an arg to startx   idk
[06:34] <coz> i truly hate crt monitors
[06:34] <pashaw> coz,   i can get you a high resolution if thats what your after
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I'll see if the man mentions it.
[06:34] <coz> ok but right now I am on 15" screen
[06:34] <pashaw> coz,  i cant use them at all any CRT gives me headache after 5mins
[06:34] <coz> what is the resolution for resolution
[06:35] <coz> crt definately sucks
[06:35] <garry> Ive gotten high res by putting the refresh rates and available resolutions in the screen section in xorg.conf
[06:35] <coz> the best monitor I have seen is the sharp 36" lcd
[06:35] <intelikey> 36" ?
[06:35] <coz> unfortunately it costs about $1500 my nephew has one
[06:35] <garry> wow, that does sound likea nice one.
[06:36] <coz> it's beautiful
[06:36] <coz> talk about realestate
[06:36] <pashaw> coz,   follow this  and use your resolution inplace of my 1024x768   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6386
[06:36] <evilghost> coz:  With a 25ms LCD refresh, right?  Love the gaussian blur.
[06:36] <coz> no blur
[06:36] <evilghost> coz:  Create a modeline in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf using gtf; I had to do the same to run 1280x1024 @ 100Hz.
[06:36] <coz> check out the specs for the aquos monitor by shrap
[06:37] <coz> ok
[06:37] <coz> let me copy this stuff down
[06:37] <evilghost> coz:  Let me know if you have further questions, it's not too difficult.  There are some additional options you need to specify in your xorg.conf, let me dig them up.
[06:37] <Goldfisch> Okay, I just read Mark Shuttleworth's article on the wiki. Very interesting.
[06:38] <evilghost> coz:  Section Device; Option "NoDCC"
[06:38] <coz> thanks
[06:38] <evilghost> coz:  Np.
[06:38] <djstillman> Anyone have any experience setting up advanced options on a laserjet 5si?
[06:39] <coz> anyone here know how to get a layla24 audio card drivers installed?
[06:39] <coz> evilghost, I will give this a try want to put together high end 64 bit system will wait til then
[06:40] <hodge> u should look it up
[06:40] <McJerry> pashaw: i spent most of the evening getting freenx server going on Dapper via backport......having never messed with freenx, (I've always used vnc) is there a gui available for nxserver?
[06:41] <evilghost> coz:  Np, let me know.  Be sure the modeline you generate matches up in the Screens section.  I can send you my xorg.conf for reference if you want.
[06:41] <coz> that wold be great eveilghost
[06:41] <coz> evilghost
[06:42] <evilghost> Do you accept DCC?
[06:42] <coz> well I would but frankly I don't know what that is?!?!
[06:42] <evilghost> Dang, 1 second.
[06:42] <coz> sorry guy
[06:42] <evilghost> This server prevents prvmsg and dcc.
[06:42] <evilghost> Np dude.
[06:43] <coz> now my interest is looking at DCC
[06:43] <alvaro> hi, i installed limewire in my ubuntu breezy, but whenever i click on the limewire icon it won't start the program. any ideas?
[06:43] <coz> I will find out about it tonight
[06:43] <hodge> great got to change permissions...
[06:43] <Friar> !limewire
[06:43] <ubotu> well, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[06:44] <hodge> limewire is very good
[06:44] <hodge> 2nd fav p2p prog
[06:44] <alvaro> i already have java
[06:44] <hodge> just dl it
[06:44] <Friar> i had torouble getting it to work from the repositories
[06:44] <intelikey> so after ubuntu goes commercial what next ?
[06:45] <evilghost> coz:  http://www.stickit.nu/tmp/xorg.conf
[06:45] <Friar> downloading it from linmewires site might be better
[06:45] <crimsun> intelikey: what?
[06:45] <coz> great I will get it now
[06:45] <intelikey> :)
[06:45] <coz> got it thanks
[06:45] <garry> Goes commercial?
[06:45] <evilghost> coz:  NP
[06:45] <coz> intelikey has a point
[06:46] <coz> shuttleworth keeps pumping money into ubuntu he will eventually want a return
[06:46] <intelikey> well it's just that life has tought me that when people say "i will never" they always do.
[06:46] <coz> you got that right
[06:47] <Friar> enjoy what ya can while ya can
[06:47] <crimsun> Mark would not pull a "It's my distro" shebang.
[06:48] <crimsun> He knows well that's it not "his."
[06:48] <pashaw> explain how a distro based on gpl software can go commercial besides charging for support calls?
[06:48] <coz> red hat
[06:48] <intelikey> it doesn't have to be his to go .com
[06:48] <pashaw> red hat charges for support not software
[06:48] <garry> I see this on the default browser page when I bring up the browser in ubuntu. I thoguht maybe something had changed I quote "Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms."
[06:48] <coz> you have to buy red hat
[06:48] <crimsun> intelikey: "go .com"?
[06:48] <intelikey> commericial
[06:48] <crimsun> intelikey: it already /is/ a .com. Canonical supports it.
[06:49] <crimsun> Our glibc/arch hacker is one of a few doing support.
[06:49] <intelikey> as in for sell.    as in like america
[06:49] <garry> I seem to recall thatthey would be looking for return on support end, but Yeah Intel,I woudl not be surprised if they did go commercial
[06:49] <coz> I hope they do actually
[06:49] <coz> there would be better third party apps aviable
[06:49] <crimsun> intelikey: for sale? Nothing's stopping anyone from doing that.
[06:50] <garry> Yeah, it might improve the product.
[06:50] <coz> it would definately improve the procust
[06:50] <coz> product
[06:50] <coz> damn fingers
[06:50] <garry> Yeah, If only putting my fingers up for sale would improve my typing skills.
[06:51] <intelikey> coz if M$ is a test case, we might debate the quality issue  :)
[06:51] <coz> yes I fuond that if go solwly ican raelly tpye wlel
[06:52] <coz> it's not ms that isa test case other than they have the best and the most apps avaiable because of third party support
[06:52] <coz> all os's have their place
[06:52] <coz> I am hoping thatubuntu eventually overtakes at least the residential community
[06:53] <garry> Seems Migrainesoft's main issue is all the bloat, and then having to charge a king's ransom for products to pay all the programmers for all the bloat.
[06:53] <coz> well I am more interested in the third party apps, photoshop, painter etc.... etc..
[06:53] <coz> these people write for only two os's right now because that is where the money is
[06:53] <pashaw> garry,   my issue is they charge full price  from release day to the day they discontinue it      i dont buy anything full price ever
[06:54] <evilghost> The root issue is the hand-holding gratitutious (sp?) dialog boxes, non-stop confirmation boxes, and root goal to empower the defficient with computers.  The same holds true to the abolition of drivers licenses; who in their right mind turns loose a motor vehicle to the untrained yet we do that every day.
[06:54] <coz> well I never pay full price for anything I use
[06:54] <evilghost> It's no wonder they end up on an IRC botnet DDoSing and spamming.
[06:54] <evilghost> That's the issue.  MS tends to empower the button-monkeys.
[06:55] <evilghost> And I won't even reference the quality of code.
[06:55] <coz> well eventuall, as linux gets more popular , there will more and more attackjs by viruses etc
[06:55] <garry> Yeah, I used to have Pinnacle studio, and after awhile they kept putting out upgrades every few months at near 100 bucks a pop, that adds up. got me ticked,  I finally stopped buying when the cycle dropped to 45 days.
[06:55] <coz> right now it is in a good position
[06:55] <garry> pashaw yep, I feel the same way.
[06:55] <evilghost> coz:  Not true, research hWND manipulation, messaging subsystem issues.  There is no IE, there is no obfuscated IE security model.
[06:55] <pashaw> guys #ubuntu-offtopic    would be a better place for this  :P
[06:55] <coz> you may be right
[06:56] <pashaw> intelikey,   really  how about airline radar?
[06:56] <coz> yes back to what is the topic
[06:56] <pashaw> lol   night all
[06:56] <coz> guys I really am not a linux lover other than ubuntu and I am still learning, most from you guys and I really appreciate it
[06:57] <intelikey> pashaw link please ?    or is that one of those hipocritical 'could happen' things ?
[06:57] <intelikey> hypothetical maybe
[06:57] <coz> so i have a few apps I want to try on ubuntu, however I am a doof when it comes to comiling something
[06:57] <coz> compiling
[06:57] <garry> rotton fingers
[06:57] <coz> exactly
[06:58] <garry> time to go to #ubuntu-rotton-fingers
[06:58] <coz> I think most of us would end up there
[06:58] <garry> I would be there.
[06:58] <coz> I am with you guy
[06:58] <intelikey> i don't make many typos,  i just can't spell noffin
[06:59] <coz>  so , I have decompressed the package, did a ./configure the a make
[06:59] <coz>  but I keep getting that there is no make file
[06:59] <intelikey> !b-e
[06:59] <ubotu> somebody said b-e was no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[06:59] <hodge> yes
[06:59] <coz> I have all that is neccesary for the it to work
[06:59] <coz> that much I know
[07:00] <hodge> what are you talking about coz?
[07:00] <intelikey> you did install  build-essential???
[07:00] <hodge> I have no idea
[07:00] <coz> well there are two apps gruler and colorscheme
[07:00] <coz> simple apps but no .deb package
[07:00] <coz> so i have to compile them
[07:00] <coz> but it's a no go
[07:00] <garry> I got my fingers crushed in a slit about one eighth slot. Severed nerves that cause my fingers to feel like they are a half inch more to the right than they are. I use a typeing tutor app called GnomeOuch.
[07:00] <intelikey> coz i was talking to you
[07:01] <coz> yes that is installed intelikey
[07:01] <intelikey> k
[07:01] <intelikey> the ./configure must have failed
[07:01] <hodge> u sure?
[07:01] <coz> as a matter of fact, I was talking on ubuntuforums with someone about this and we checked for all esential s
[07:01] <coz> yeah maybe
[07:02] <garry> wwww.evilKeyboards.net
[07:02] <evilghost> Happy New Year btw, @ CST.
[07:02] <hodge> ?
[07:02] <coz> sorry psople Happy New Year to you all
[07:02] <evilghost> Yeah, removed the Win32 "Logo" key and the "File" key.
[07:03] <hodge> Hey thanks for your help
[07:03] <hodge> bye
[07:04] <coz> I was hoipng that wehn this new yaer began I wuold have my tyipng at an all tmie hgih!
[07:04] <intelikey> yeah i think i'll hit that key myself.       [root@~]  # mount -o remount,dreamonly /dev/brain /home/pillow   ;sleep -$random     gooday t'all
[07:04] <coz> so mcuh for taht
[07:04] <MasterWammy> lol
[07:04] <coz> Ok thanks guys have to go be back later I hope if not again Happy new year to you all
[07:05] <MasterWammy> coz:you the same coz i know?
[07:05] <coz> masterWammy wel I don't think so but I am the Real coz if that counts
[07:05] <coz> it is my real name
[07:05] <MasterWammy> lol
[07:05] <evilghost> coz:  Later bro.
[07:05] <MasterWammy> ok
[07:05] <garry> I once wrote my own typing tutor. the ones I used always bleeped at me. I began to jump like pavlov's dog being trained to jump at the bell. every error,and it was bleep bleep bleep.
[07:06] <coz> maybe one of those electric dog colors
[07:06] <coz> collars
[07:06] <Jeff12088> 2 more hours till 2006 =o
[07:06] <coz> it jsut gets wurs and wurse
[07:07] <steven_> happy new year to EST and CST :)
[07:08] <garry> Worst typeo I ever did was in a game, I was typing in a game guild channel and tried to say gwats like Elmer fudd, but I hit the T key instead of G key.
[07:08] <garry> was trying for grats.
[07:08] <eagleman> hi
[07:09] <eagleman> I have a problem: Almost every boot I have to remove my ICEauthority file to get back in  any advice here?
[07:09] <garry> that's puzzling about the compiling not being able to create an exe. Did that fellow ever find out why?
[07:10] <garry> I'm don't understand eagleman. is this like a config file that doesn't take effect unless you erase it?
[07:10] <garry> oh sorry I misread.
[07:11] <eagleman> garry: there seems to be some bug in Ubuntu that wants it to be erased b4 I can get back in the system
[07:12] <eagleman> I had this problem with Warty too but forgot how to fix it
[07:12] <garry> eagleman I was thinking that you could put in a line to delete it on shutdown in rc.6 or some other file, but that is probably a terrible idea. lemme google and see what I find or is this a known bug?
[07:13] <eagleman> the ICEauthrity file will not let me back in the system until I erase it and it is renewed by the OS, but that is annoying
[07:13] <mebsd> how to use xlock in fluxbox? i want it to start screensaver after 15 minutes
[07:13] <eagleman> mebsd: I dont use FB so I dont know
[07:14] <garry> Does it say somethng like it can't read it? I'm looking at a post by e fellow who says  he could not start gnome because it said it could not read the file.
[07:15] <eagleman> I found the answer in google already
[07:15] <eagleman> yes  that is the problem
[07:15] <eagleman> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26005.html
[07:16] <eagleman> garry: thanks for trying to help  :) and happy New Year
[07:16] <garry> Here try this  "sudo chown sam /home/sam/.ICEauthority"
[07:16] <garry> replace sam with your user name of course.
[07:16] <thegladiator> how do i install a new mouse arrow  in gnome?
[07:16] <garry> eagleman thanks and ye too.
[07:16] <ubuntu_> can i request something to be compile and added to resp ?
[07:18] <ubuntu_> this game : http://lincity-ng.berlios.de/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[07:18] <ubuntu_> i request it to be added in resp ..
[07:18] <thegladiator> how do i install a new mouse arrow  in gnome?
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu_: Maybe check http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate?
[07:19] <garry> I think I read somewhere about a faq about requests for repos additions.
[07:19] <mevvis> HAPPY NEW YEAR!
[07:19] <thegladiator> happy new year
[07:20] <zerokarmaleft> seems my root filesystem has errors and was remounted ro.  i can't issue any sudo commands since it tries to create a pid tempfile in /var.  what should i do?
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu_: Can try to get it added to universe.
[07:21] <polpak> zerokarmaleft, reboot into single user mode
[07:21] <polpak> zerokarmaleft, that will give you a root shell w/o actually logging in
[07:21] <zerokarmaleft> polpak: i'm not physically in front of the terminal
[07:22] <polpak> zerokarmaleft, then afaik you are stuck
[07:22] <viscount> when I boot up, the framebuffer shows me a kubuntu logo as the system starts up, it used to just show a regular Ubuntu logo, how can I switch that back to the way it was?
[07:22] <zerokarmaleft> polpak: sweet. thx anyway
[07:23] <BlackJudas> sorush20, ubuntu for a media pc, good choice?  Are the fun "non-free" packages available for ubuntu (such as win32-codecs).
[07:23] <BlackJudas> err
[07:23] <BlackJudas> sorush20, didn't mean to type to you, sry.
[07:23] <polpak> BlackJudas, yes
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu_, Specifically, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates.
[07:23] <polpak> !restricted
[07:23] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:25] <Chameleon22> what settings (maybe wiki page url) do i need to twick to get the damn 5.1 sound working.  So far only 2.1 speakers out of 5.1 are working (although i know others work as well)
[07:26] <BlackJudas> polpak, nice.  I'm of the debian persuasion, so you'll have to bare with my "elitist" views ;).  I just gave up trying on gentoo :/
[07:26] <polpak> BlackJudas, I <3 ubuntu
[07:27] <garry> I had a gentoo nightmare myself. Got it all running, and then got to the point where I was to start downloading packages and got an emerge error code 2, end of story for me.
[07:27] <Eleaf> l.;'
[07:27] <Eleaf> l.;'
[07:27] <polpak> BlackJudas, I've tried many distros ubuntu does exactly what I want 7 times out of 10, and the other three only take a quick search on ubuntuforums or a question here to correct
[07:27] <thegladiator> BlackJudas, you didnt like gentoo coz tis difficult yes?
[07:27] <evilghost> Chameleon22:  lsmod, what sound card do you have.
[07:28] <polpak> thegladiator, I didn't like gentoo because I spent more time working on the OS and less time working on my actual projects
[07:28] <thegladiator> yeah i is diff to configure really
[07:28] <garry> I myself, blame me. My typing stinks, my vision is poor. I have little doubt that I did some mistake somewhere if not several. Lots of typing, lots of chances for errors.
[07:28] <Chameleon22> evilghost, i use SB
[07:28] <thegladiator> but a nice distro if you wanna learn linux as a OS
[07:29] <eric_> the mplayer plug-in is not working in firefox
[07:29] <Chameleon22> evilghost, dont see it in lsmod though
[07:29] <evilghost> Chameleon22:  Sound Blaster 24Bit?
[07:29] <polpak> thegladiator, if you really want to get to know the guts of linux, build yourself a linux from scratch. But as for introducing people gradually to linux.. Ubuntu is king
[07:29] <Chameleon22> evilghost, not sure, how do i check
[07:29] <evilghost> Chameleon22:  If so, you lose, http://klumpp.net/blog/archives/22-Linux-Soundcards-CA0106-sucks,-EMU10k1k2-is-the-way-to-go..html
[07:30] <FireRabbit> Chameleon22, lsmod|grep emu10
[07:30] <evilghost> He's a SndBlstr 24Bit, and doesn't have the CA0106 module compiled; you running Hoary right?
[07:30] <Chameleon22> evermuse, FireRabbit pasting into #flood
[07:30] <polpak> Chameleon22, to see what sound card you have you can do an lspci
[07:31] <polpak> Chameleon22, to see what drivers you are using use lsmod | grep snd
[07:31] <FireRabbit> evilghost, he said sound works out of two speakers
[07:31] <Chameleon22> 00:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
[07:31] <Chameleon22> 0000:00:0a.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 0a)
[07:31] <Chameleon22> SB Live
[07:31] <FireRabbit> yeah, emu10k1
[07:31] <FireRabbit> so that is suppoted
[07:31] <FireRabbit> supported
[07:31] <evilghost> Yeah, SB Live 5.1, you're good with emu10k1
[07:32] <Chameleon22> so how do i enable the prick
[07:32] <FireRabbit> Chameleon22, tried going into the volume control and turning everything on?
[07:32] <crimsun> use the correct virtual device
[07:32] <Chameleon22> FireRabbit, yeah 1st thing i tried
[07:32] <crimsun> plug:surround51, for instance.
[07:32] <Chameleon22> crimsun, where do i set that? or how rather?
[07:33] <crimsun> it'd help if you answered my question regarding which app you're using
[07:34] <Chameleon22> xmms and xine
[07:34] <hydroksyde> how do canonical make money, anyway?
[07:34] <crimsun> so in xine, you'd have to select the surround device
[07:35] <crimsun> in xmms, you'd use plug:surround51 as your virtual device in the alsa plugins preferences in the audio i/o plugins
[07:35] <ubuntu_> is there updates CDs for download ?
[07:35] <Chameleon22> crimsun, i cant seem to find 51 setting in xine
[07:35] <Chameleon22> :/
[07:35] <FireRabbit> Chameleon22, gxine lets you select surround from the ui
[07:36] <zblach> good morning & year to all
[07:36] <evilghost> Chameleon22:  You tried alsamixer and perhaps setting wave wave/center/surround on?
[07:37] <mahangu> how can i see what codecs a .avi file uses?
[07:37] <Chameleon22> FireRabbit, i use kde, not gnome
[07:37] <FireRabbit> mahangu, the "file" command will often figure that out
[07:37] <Chameleon22> evilghost, alsamixer seems to have surronund sound on
[07:37] <evilghost> mahangu:  mplayer [filename]  from terminal should show you the video/audio codec as well as the framerate and resolution.
[07:37] <mahangu> thanks
[07:38] <mahangu> I have a Divx5 file with mp3 audio
[07:38] <mahangu> can i make a vcd outta this?
[07:38] <mahangu> FireRabbit, i used the file command
[07:38] <FireRabbit> cool
[07:38] <FireRabbit> or are you saying it didn't work?
[07:38] <mahangu> it works fine
[07:38] <mahangu> i want to give it to a friend of mine
[07:38] <mahangu> it's like 806 mb tho
[07:39] <hydroksyde> Is Canonical just Mark being generous, or does it have an actual source of profit???
[07:39] <FireRabbit> overnight transfer? :)
[07:40] <mahangu> hydroksyde, support services
[07:40] <hydroksyde> ah
[07:40] <mahangu> hydroksyde, most FOSS projects use that model
[07:40] <garry> Sorry, what is Canonical? Memory fails me, I remeber hearing about it.
[07:40] <FireRabbit> garry, canonical sponsors ubuntu
[07:40] <garry> FireRabbit Thanks kindly.
[07:41] <Chameleon22> crimsun, where do i select plug:surround51 in xmms?
[07:41] <FireRabbit> hydroksyde, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/support/supportoptions/paidsupport/
[07:41] <hydroksyde> ok
[07:41] <crimsun> Chameleon22: preferences> audio i/o plugins> alsa> device  (type it into the text entry field/drop-down menu)
[07:42] <mahangu> i need some help. i have a 807mb .avi (divx5 codec) file i want to split up in to two parts, and maybe make a vcd. any idea?
[07:42] <FireRabbit> one of you guys should create a SurroundSound page on the wiki and post this
[07:43] <crimsun> FireRabbit: feel free
[07:43] <FireRabbit> well, i don't actually have surround sound :) ..but i guess i could start it
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> I just make the rear speakers mirror the front
[07:46] <FireRabbit> Dr_Willis, how do you do that?
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> not sure what i even have under windows or linux thats real 'surround sound' other then games.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> FireRabbit,  twiddled with the mixer controls
[07:46] <BlackJudas> Yeah gentoo .. wasn't too difficult... it was too broken.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> I got an Audiugy sound card - theres like 90 of the dang sliders..
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:47] <FireRabbit> Dr_Willis, think you could add it to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Surround_Sound
[07:47] <FireRabbit> ?
[07:47] <BlackJudas> In the span of two weeks, over 4 upgrades, the system became unusable in many different ways.
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> FireRabbit,  i dont even rember what i did...
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> FireRabbit,  its not really surround sound at all. uits just mirroring the front to the rear.
[07:47] <FireRabbit> Dr_Willis, would still be useful
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> and all i did was slide the right sliders up "{
[07:47] <BlackJudas> I liked gentoo for its vast support of many different packages, but again, too broken, too fussy and very... broken :)
[07:47] <FireRabbit> crimsun, feel free to add to that page :)
[07:48] <Keegan_Witt> does anyone know y I cannot mount a flash drive on breezy?
[07:48] <crimsun> Keegan_Witt: that's way too vague
[07:49] <BlackJudas> While I install my fun.... does ubuntu force gnome on install?
[07:49] <crimsun> by default, yes.
[07:49] <Keegan_Witt> how can I be more specific? it just says specified UDI is not a mountable volume
[07:49] <Keegan_Witt> it works on windows
[07:49] <Chameleon22> crimsun, tried that - still only 2 speakers active
[07:49] <crimsun> Chameleon22: and amixer output?
[07:49] <crimsun> (pastebin)
[07:49] <Chameleon22> pastebin?
[07:49] <crimsun> Keegan_Witt: pastebin dmesg output
[07:49] <crimsun> !pastebin
[07:49] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:50] <timfrost> BlackJudas, Ubuntu=Gnome, Kubuntu=KDE
[07:50] <Chameleon22> crimsun, what am i greping?
[07:51] <crimsun> Chameleon22: nothing. I want the entire thing.#
[07:51] <Chameleon22> k hold on
[07:52] <titanium_platypu> hey
[07:52] <Chameleon22> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6437
[07:52] <titanium_platypu> I have just switched to Ubuntu from Fedora.
[07:52] <titanium_platypu> I love it so far
[07:52] <titanium_platypu> but I have a few problems
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> I think we need a Fluxbox Ubuntu called 'Flubuntu' :P
[07:52] <titanium_platypu> three, to be exact
[07:52] <FireRabbit> Dr_Willis, :)
[07:52] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, alright, first?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> I think we need a windowmaker Ubuntu called 'wubuntu' :P
[07:52] <titanium_platypu> #1) It never prompted me for a root password during the install, and won't let me become root using the superuser command! :(
[07:52] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: then make them.
[07:52] <titanium_platypu> what to do?
[07:53] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, use sudo
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> titanium_platypu,  thats how it works :P
[07:53] <crimsun> !tell titanium_platypu about sudo
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> faq #1
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> the first Faq #1 of the New year!
[07:53] <titanium_platypu> the bot said that, if I want, I can set a root password
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> titanium_platypu,  yes you can...
[07:53] <titanium_platypu> is there any reason not to do this, and if not, how do I?
[07:54] <molinero> Hello to all ubuntu user!
[07:54] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, theres no reason to set one
[07:54] <molinero> Happy New Year
[07:54] <mahangu> anybody here used mencoder before?
[07:54] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, you can always just use your user password
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> if you dont know how.. :P  well...  :P
[07:54] <titanium_platypu> yeah....but I would rather become root user at will.
[07:54] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, sudo -s
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> its a 'security' habbit - that is best to learn to do the 'proper' way
[07:54] <Keegan_Witt> here is link to message I get: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6438
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu devs are big on security.
[07:54] <crimsun> Chameleon22: um, that's dmesg. I asked you for amixer.
[07:54] <titanium_platypu> I'm not running a corporation eh
[07:55] <titanium_platypu> I don't need uber-security.
[07:55] <krac> anyone have a default php install handy
[07:55] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, *shrug*, theres really no reason to change it
[07:55] <Chameleon22> crimsun, bah i must have missread
[07:55] <Chameleon22> sorry hold on
[07:55] <titanium_platypu> oh, okay, so I just type "sudo -s" instead of "su"?
[07:55] <BlackJudas> timfrost, I see the wiki suggests I install with the server tag.  Good enough for me, I don't need a wm (or de) to use myth.  It's why I asked, evilwm works just fine.
[07:55] <krac> and can <?php phpinfo(); ?> and paste me the config options :p
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> there a large and legenthy forum discussion on the topic. :)
[07:55] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, yup
[07:55] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, and enter *your* password
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> there is no 'root' user password.. root cant directly login.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> security in layers.
[07:56] <titanium_platypu> I don't see much of a difference, except for six extra keystrokes every time I do it, which multiplies out to quite a bit over a long period of time....
[07:56] <titanium_platypu> oh well.  I'll get used to it, I suppose.
[07:56] <titanium_platypu> thanks
[07:56] <crimsun> then use sudo -s
[07:56] <clintpatty> i have a sorta Ubuntu question
[07:56] <Wilf> my does adio and video on totem go out of sync sometimes?
[07:56] <titanium_platypu> #2) I get all sorts of blips and bleeps from Gnome (which are bloody annoying, but I know how to turn them off, so don't worry about it), so the sound card must be working, but I don't get audio from any of my applications
[07:56] <Chameleon22> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6439
[07:57] <titanium_platypu> what's the deal?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> FireRabbit,  its a bad habbit to have a root shell just laying about..
[07:57] <clintpatty> i downloaded the 5.10 Ubuntu live dvd
[07:57] <clintpatty> but i'm having issues with burning it
[07:57] <clintpatty> does anyone know how to enter the code for cdrecord-ProDVD
[07:57] <clintpatty> i have the code
[07:57] <FireRabbit> Dr_Willis, yeah, but its an even worse habbit to re-enable the root account, which is what a lot of people do who dont know about -s
[07:57] <crimsun> Chameleon22: adjust the 'Wave [..] ' ones
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> FireRabbit,  actually if ya knew some linux to a small degree ya could figure out how to enable the root account.. :P takes all of 5 sec to do.
[07:58] <SteveStevings> how do i install a .pcf font
[07:58] <SteveStevings> ive spent the last 20 mins looking on google
[07:58] <crimsun> Chameleon22: furthermore, unless you're actually using your optical out, mute 'IEC958 Optical Raw'
[07:58] <SteveStevings> trying to figure it out
[07:59] <crimsun> Chameleon22: and 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' may need to be unmuted
[07:59] <titanium_platypu> nobody knows what to do about my sound card? :(
[07:59] <crimsun> titanium_platypu: you're being deliberately vague
[07:59] <crimsun> titanium_platypu: e.g., what apps?
[07:59] <Chameleon22> crimsun, jack? wtf where on the hdw it self?
[07:59] <SteveStevings> how do i install a .pcf font
[08:00] <crimsun> Chameleon22: no, read your amixer output.
[08:00] <titanium_platypu> I've tried tons of games that I know have audio.  None of them would do anything.
[08:00] <titanium_platypu> the only sound I do get is that of Gnome.
[08:00] <SteveStevings> are you on a laptop?
[08:00] <Chameleon22> crimsun, kk reading hold up
[08:00] <crimsun> titanium_platypu: have you disabled System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup ?
[08:00] <Chameleon22> crimsun, by the way  thanks
[08:00] <SteveStevings> titanium_platypus: are you on a laptop
[08:00] <richard> Hi what app creates Mp3 files on gnome?
[08:00] <clintpatty> does anyone have info about how to burn the LiveDVD iso?
[08:00] <titanium_platypu> nope, it's turned on.  It's got the right sound card selected, too.
[08:01] <titanium_platypu> SteveStevings, no, I'm not.
[08:01] <clintpatty> richard grip is good
[08:01] <crimsun> titanium_platypu: turn it off
[08:01] <titanium_platypu> oh, really?
[08:01] <richard> clintpatty: when I install it will I need to download anything else like LAME?
[08:01] <clintpatty> yeah
[08:01] <crimsun> titanium_platypu: after you've played your game, turn it back on
[08:01] <clintpatty> you'll need lame
[08:01] <titanium_platypu> after I uncheck that is there anything I need to do to apply the settings?
[08:01] <FireRabbit> oh the wiki page mentions sudo -i, good enough
[08:01] <titanium_platypu> brb
[08:02] <richard> clintpatty: Ok I will give it a try. I have a new Stereo that plays MP3 files and I would love to have my audio books on one cd
[08:02] <Keegan_Witt> wat was the 2 file types I needed to get ndiswrapper to work? inf and what?
[08:02] <clintpatty> cool
[08:03] <clintpatty> can no one help me burn the Ubuntu iso?
[08:03] <SteveStevings> how do i install a .pcf font
[08:03] <crimsun> clintpatty: use gnomebaker or k3b, for instance
[08:03] <FireRabbit> grip is a little bit hard to use
[08:03] <FireRabbit> sound juicer is a bit more to the point
[08:03] <clintpatty> crimsun i don't have kde
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> clintpatty,  i just use nero under windows :P
[08:04] <clintpatty> and don't want to install it
[08:04] <clintpatty> Dr_Willis Gentoo is all i have installed
[08:04] <Inf3ctedFx> clintpatty: did u download the ubuntu iso already?
[08:04] <clintpatty> yeah
[08:04] <crimsun> clintpatty: that has nothing to do with gnomebaker or k3b.
[08:04] <clintpatty> crimsun: kde libs are required for k3b
[08:05] <FireRabbit> SteveStevings, put it in ~/.fonts ?
[08:05] <crimsun> clintpatty: kdelibs4c2 != KDE
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> clintpatty, What are you running right now?
[08:05] <clintpatty> tonyyarusso: Gentoo
[08:05] <FireRabbit> crimsun, on gentoo, it might be though
[08:05] <crimsun> I'm certain Gentoo has a variety of gui tools if that's what you prefer
[08:05] <timfrost> clintpatty, do you have cdrecord?
[08:06] <crimsun> otherwise you can use cdrecord or cdrdao
[08:06] <FireRabbit> its a big deal regardless .. to compile qt/kdelibs/etc
[08:06] <clintpatty> crimsun: also, i can't install gnomebaker because it conflicts with something, cdrecord, i think
[08:06] <Keegan_Witt> wat repo is kdevelop in?
[08:06] <clintpatty> timfrost: yes, i have cdrecord-ProDVD
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> clintpatty, Well that can be what you use then.
[08:06] <clintpatty> tonyyarusso: how do i enter the ProDVD code
[08:06] <crimsun> !info kdevelop3
[08:06] <ubotu> kdevelop3: (An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1053 kB, Installed size: 3500 kB
[08:07] <clintpatty> I use X-Cdroast that has a place to enter the code
[08:07] <clintpatty> i don't know how to enter the ProDVD code in terminal
[08:07] <crimsun> so use xcdroast
[08:07] <clintpatty> can't
[08:07] <clintpatty> it doesn't work right for some reason
[08:07] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn.html ?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> i would guess theres some .file that it checkjs.
[08:07] <crimsun> cdrecord-prodvd is cli last I checked
[08:07] <clintpatty> Graveman, which uses growisofs and some other utils, is the only thing that's worked so far for DVDs
[08:08] <titanium_platypu> back
[08:08] <crimsun> so burn the iso using graveman if you're using Gentoo currently
[08:08] <FireRabbit> what the hec is prodvd
[08:08] <Chameleon22> crimsun, managed to get center speaker working 3/5 so far
[08:08] <crimsun> FireRabbit: Jorge's extensions to cdrecord to support dvd
[08:09] <FireRabbit> why does it need a key?
[08:09] <Chameleon22> crimsun, now 2 rear once and i am sweet
[08:09] <crimsun> FireRabbit: because it's decidedly non-DFSG-free?
[08:09] <clintpatty> crimsun, don't know how to burn the iso with Graveman; it was just burn the .iso as a file to the dvd
[08:09] <FireRabbit> huh
[08:10] <crimsun> http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[08:10] <clintpatty> FireRabbit, that link was nice and all, but I know how to burn CD isos; I need to burn the LiveDVD iso
[08:10] <FireRabbit> ohh
[08:10] <FireRabbit> well, boot off of the livecd and burn the livedvd from there ;)
[08:10] <crimsun> clintpatty: the same way you'd burn any other iso using gnomebaker, k3b, graveman, $utilityOfChoice
[08:10] <FireRabbit> i've burned dvds from here without any keys or anything
[08:10] <SteveStevings> XD i love irc.. the grammar and spelling  is so nice
[08:11] <clintpatty> crimsun, i've only used cdrecord from terminal for isos before
[08:11] <clintpatty> and i don't know how to use cdrecord-ProDVD
[08:11] <Inf3ctedFx> I use Gnome Baker
[08:11] <crimsun> clintpatty: you've never used growisofs directly or graveman to burn dvd isos?
[08:12] <clintpatty> only graveman
[08:12] <clintpatty> not growisofs directly
[08:12] <crimsun> clintpatty: then just use growisofs
[08:12] <crimsun> err
[08:12] <FireRabbit> certainly cdrecord-prodvd isnt what most people use to burn dvds
[08:12] <crimsun> graveman^
[08:12] <clintpatty> crimsun, graveman burns it as a file
[08:13] <clintpatty> not puts it on the disk like an iso
[08:13] <clintpatty> like, it doesn't burn the image or w/e
[08:13] <clintpatty> i just have a ubuntu .iso file on the disk
[08:13] <crimsun> then you'll just use growisofs
[08:13] <crimsun> use growisofs --help if you need assistance
[08:13] <clintpatty> crimsun, have you used it before to burn DVD iso?
[08:14] <wil_> hi
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> Hi wil_.
[08:14] <crimsun> clintpatty: no, I don't have a cd-rom or a dvd-rom
[08:14] <clintpatty> o
[08:14] <clintpatty> hardcore
[08:15] <wil_> happy new year!
[08:15] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, the version of gnome you are using doesnt have burning support?
[08:15] <wil_> it's just new year here in canada
[08:15] <FireRabbit> 11:15 here
[08:15] <clintpatty> FireRabbit, I don't have gnomebaker or gnometoaster, if that's what you mean
[08:16] <Viper12> eddy murphy voice:  MERRY NEW YEAR!!!!!!! - from Denver. :)
[08:16] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, that's not what i mean... most people in here can right-click on an ISO file and click "Write to disk"
[08:16] <wil_> Firerabbit: where are you?
[08:16] <FireRabbit> wil_, Seattle, WA
[08:16] <wil_> I'm in edmonton
[08:16] <wil_> , alberta
[08:16] <FireRabbit> ah
[08:17] <wil_> standard mountain time
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> wil_, I go to school in Ontario.
[08:18] <wil_> tonyyaruso: happy new year
[08:18] <clintpatty> FireRabbit: no, then
[08:18] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, well check you nautilus use flags or something... this is really all a topic for a gentoo irc channel you know
[08:18] <FireRabbit> your*
[08:19] <clintpatty> FireRabbit: nvm
[08:19] <wil_> what happened to the multiverse repositories.  I'm following the "Other non-Free Formats" in the unofficial Guide.
[08:19] <FireRabbit> wil_, didnt go anywhere
[08:19] <clintpatty> crimsun: I suppose the answer of use the terminal program that graveman works with should have been more obvious to me
[08:19] <clintpatty> crimsun: thanks, growisofs is burning it right now
[08:19] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone here uise the VMware?
[08:19] <FireRabbit> Inf3ctedFx, yeah
[08:19] <wil_> It says to enable the multiverse but I don't see it hashed in sources.list or in synaptic
[08:20] <titanium_platypu> well, that didn't fix it.
[08:20] <titanium_platypu> I'll worry about it later.
[08:20] <clintpatty> incase anyone asks in future
[08:20] <titanium_platypu> I made a mistake, by the way....I have four problems, not three.
[08:20] <titanium_platypu> Of course, now it's down to 3, really, since one was solved.
[08:20] <titanium_platypu> ANYHOW,
[08:20] <clintpatty> to burn the Ubuntu LiveDVD
[08:20] <Inf3ctedFx> FireRabbit: I get stock in one part of the prosses
[08:20] <titanium_platypu> I have two more.
[08:20] <FireRabbit> wil_, http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/12/29/243/
[08:21] <titanium_platypu> #3) I tried to download and install RealPlayer with the graphical application adder.  It came up with an installer asking me "where was it downloaded to?" and I couldn't find it when I searched for it
[08:21] <clintpatty> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd='filename'.iso
[08:21] <Inf3ctedFx> I need the qemu-img.exe in order to continue but I have no website to download it
[08:21] <titanium_platypu> what do I do there?
[08:21] <wil_> Frierabbit: thanks
[08:21] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, enable multiverse
[08:21] <FireRabbit> then sudo apt-get install realplayer
[08:21] <titanium_platypu> I did
[08:21] <titanium_platypu> it was after that
[08:21] <titanium_platypu> I've actually already downloaded it, and installed it.
[08:21] <timfrost> Inf3ctedFx, yes, I use VMWare.  Why?
[08:22] <titanium_platypu> but when I try to run it is when that happens
[08:22] <titanium_platypu> it comes up with a RealPlayer installation program
[08:22] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, you downloaded it using APT?
[08:22] <titanium_platypu> which asks me where the file was downloaded to.
[08:22] <Inf3ctedFx> timfrost:  because I'm following a howto here but I can't find the qemu-img.exe
[08:22] <titanium_platypu> I downloaded it using the graphical installer....does that not work?
[08:22] <Inf3ctedFx> timfrost:  the Windows version of QEMU.
[08:22] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, try 'sudo apt-get install realplayer'
[08:22] <titanium_platypu> okay.
[08:22] <timfrost> Inf3ctedFx, that is NOT a part of VMWare
[08:23] <FireRabbit> Inf3ctedFx, i have used vmware, not qemu ;)
[08:23] <Inf3ctedFx> titanium_platypu: let me show a a good howto it will help u to install realpayer and also run it on firefox
[08:23] <timfrost> !qemu
[08:23] <ubotu> I heard qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[08:23] <FireRabbit> any howtos that tell you to do anything other than install the package are wrong
[08:23] <Inf3ctedFx> titanium_platypu:  --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats    go tehre
[08:24] <Inf3ctedFx> timfrost:  I know but as I said i'm following the howto and it said I have to get that to run windows
[08:24] <titanium_platypu> it still did the same thing
[08:24] <rony> so how do I get /dev/dsp to appear again?  It seems to have gone
[08:24] <titanium_platypu> only text-based instead of graphical this time.
[08:24] <FireRabbit> ah, so thats a good example of a bad howto
[08:24] <Inf3ctedFx> look timfrost --> Then download and install the Windows version of QEMU
[08:24] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, oh.. maybe thats right, the realplayer package has an installer
[08:24] <FireRabbit> because of licencing
[08:25] <garry> I'm a bit stuck, I cant find what I need. I need to mount as read only, hard drives with my regular user account, but the devices are set so that only root may do anything with them. Others are forbidden. How do I fix this?
[08:25] <FireRabbit> can you pastebin what it says?
[08:25] <timfrost> Inf3ctedFx, what howto?
[08:25] <Inf3ctedFx> timfrost:  here --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275&highlight=hoary+breezy
[08:25] <garry> I can mount, but must use sudo to mount and unmount, but to explore from gnome is forbidden me.
[08:25] <FireRabbit> garry, add "user" to the options in fstab for that device
[08:26] <FireRabbit> man fstab and search for user
[08:26] <garry> The user option is already in fstab.
[08:26] <FireRabbit> garry, but your user cannot mount it?
[08:26] <Inf3ctedFx> garry show me ur fstab
[08:26] <titanium_platypu> right, but how do I deal with the installer? :-\
[08:26] <garry> I can mount them, but I cannot explore them.
[08:27] <Inf3ctedFx> look garry  this is my fstab for windows partiton and I can read it from gnome -->  /dev/hda1       /media/master   ntfs     umask=0722      0       0
[08:27] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, post a screenshot ? i am not sure exactly what you are looking at
[08:27] <Inf3ctedFx> thats all I add and the reboot and let me read it normally
[08:27] <garry> Inf3ctedFx how do  ishow you my fstab?
[08:27] <clintpatty> is it only an NTFS partition that you're having trouble with?
[08:27] <titanium_platypu> hold on.  Let me try Inf3ctedFx's idea first.
[08:27] <garry> yes, only ntfs
[08:28] <garry> and I just want to mount read only.
[08:28] <FireRabbit> looks like realplayer isnt even in dapper ... interesting
[08:28] <Inf3ctedFx> garry:  on terminal type :  cd /etc/  then sudo gedit fstab
[08:28] <clintpatty> can you access the drive when you remove the ro from fstab?
[08:28] <crimsun> !info realplayer dapper
[08:28] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[08:28] <timfrost> Inf3ctedFx. I have not used vmware player - I have a VMWare 5.0 license, so installled VMWare (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare)
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> that did the trick.  Thanks a lot guys
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> then copy everything and paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> and thanks Inf3ctedFx
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> okay
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> no problem titanium_platypu
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> I just discovered another problem
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> so now there's two more.
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> :-P
[08:29] <crimsun> FireRabbit: as you can see, it is.
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> wooww whats up
[08:29] <titanium_platypu> I am difficult to satisfy, as you can see.
[08:29] <garry> say Inf3ctedFx did that, I can edit it fine, but it looks fine, as if a user should have permissions to use it.
[08:29] <FireRabbit> hrm
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> did u rebbot the box garry ?
[08:29] <Inf3ctedFx> *reboot?
[08:29] <crimsun> p.u.c. is not synced nightly.
[08:29] <crimsun> use the bot if you need to know something.
[08:30] <FireRabbit> okay thanks
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> okay, #4) anybody used the program "Celestia"?  I have, and I love it.  But when I try to run it in Ubuntu, it crashes my whole system!  I can't even Ctrl+Alt+F1 myself to a terminal.
[08:30] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, what did you do exactly to fix realplayer?
[08:30] <garry> Here is a line for the device from fstab. Haven't rebooted, its just first time I've had difficulty.
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> I followed the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> under "RealPlayer"
[08:30] <FireRabbit> ah you downloaded that .deb?
[08:30] <titanium_platypu> yes.
[08:31] <FireRabbit> ok
[08:31] <Inf3ctedFx> garry:  here is my fstab I have 2 HDD's one master and one slave  look --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6440
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> so,
[08:31] <garry> using music programs to browse the folder. The mount point has permissions that root can read only, all others are forbidden.
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> titanium_platypu, I use it with no problems.
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> anybody have any idea what to do about my latest whiny gripe?
[08:31] <Inf3ctedFx> titanium_platypu:  I follow those and work for me just fine
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> hm.
[08:31] <titanium_platypu> you use Celestia?
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Yes.
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> well, I might look around on the intarbutt for help with that one....as well as with my sound card.
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> last one:
[08:32] <Inf3ctedFx> timfrost:  do u know where can I find the Windows version of QEMU.??
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> #5) before, in Firefox, I could just select a URL and then hit the middle mouse button in Firefox's main window in order to go to the URL, using X's copy-paste feature.
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> now it doesn't do that
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> the copy-paste feature works fine,
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> but not the cool little Firefox deal
[08:32] <titanium_platypu> anyone know about that?
[08:32] <garry> Thanks Inf3ctedFx I will try that umask=0722 thing.
[08:32] <FireRabbit> titanium_platypu, wow, you actually WANT that? ;)
[08:33] <FireRabbit> goto about:config
[08:33] <Inf3ctedFx> garry:  dont forget to reboot
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> O_o
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> shouldn't I?
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> it's handy
[08:33] <FireRabbit> it drives me nuts, i always use autoscroll
[08:33] <FireRabbit> but yeah, about:config
[08:33] <titanium_platypu> okay
[08:33] <FireRabbit> search for contentloadurl
[08:33] <timfrost> Inf3ctedFx, No. I don't run M$ s/ware at home at all
[08:33] <FireRabbit> set middlemouse.contentloadurl to true
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> sweet.
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> thanks
[08:34] <FireRabbit> yw
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> I love that feature
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> okay, so you solved 3/5 of my problems
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> thank you all very much
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> I appreciate it.
[08:34] <titanium_platypu> see you later.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> FireRabbit, Question on about:config; can you just edit that straight in the window?
[08:34] <FireRabbit> have fun
[08:34] <FireRabbit> tonyyarusso, yeah
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> FireRabbit, Huh.  Was very confused the one time I actually tried to.  Probably know more now though.
[08:35] <LordMelkor> hi there
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> Oh, yeah I see.  Reminds me of Windows' registry.
[08:35] <LordMelkor> im haveing some trouble with my cd driver i think
[08:36] <LordMelkor> I load a cd with mp3s on it into the computer
[08:36] <LordMelkor> and try to copy them
[08:36] <LordMelkor> to the hd
[08:36] <LordMelkor> but then i get an error
[08:36] <LordMelkor> that says i/o
[08:36] <LordMelkor> error
[08:36] <LordMelkor> or sumthing like that
[08:36] <FireRabbit> is part of the cd scrached off? :)
[08:36] <clintpatty> LordMelkor did you umount then mount again
[08:36] <LordMelkor> im very new to linux
[08:37] <clintpatty> i've had that problem before and just remounting fixed it
[08:37] <LordMelkor> so
[08:37] <LordMelkor> i have no idea what that means
[08:37] <clintpatty> is it your only cd drive?
[08:37] <LordMelkor> ya
[08:37] <clintpatty> is it /dev/cdrom
[08:37] <clintpatty> or do you know
[08:37] <FireRabbit> LordMelkor, have you rebooted between trying this?
[08:37] <LordMelkor> yes
[08:37] <FireRabbit> ok
[08:37] <FireRabbit> then theres no point in trying to remount :)
[08:37] <LordMelkor> multiple times
[08:37] <FireRabbit> since that happens when you reboot by nature
[08:37] <LordMelkor> oh
[08:37] <clintpatty> haha yeah, nvm
[08:38] <LordMelkor> darn
[08:38] <LordMelkor> it also happend wwhen i tried to burn a cd
[08:38] <LordMelkor> its a cd-rw/dvd combo drive
[08:38] <FireRabbit> interesting
[08:38] <FireRabbit> did you drop it? ;)
[08:38] <LordMelkor> you know.
[08:38] <LordMelkor> i did
[08:38] <LordMelkor> but i didnt think anything happend.
[08:38] <FireRabbit> haha
[08:38] <LordMelkor> damnit
[08:39] <clintpatty> FireRabbit if root mounted it when rebooting and didn't have right permissions for user access, would that result in i/o error?
[08:39] <FireRabbit> well, i mean you never know... try sticking another drive in and reading that same CD of mp3s
[08:39] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, no, permissions error
[08:39] <LordMelkor> hm
[08:39] <LordMelkor> ill futz with it for a bit to see if its the drive that has the problem
[08:39] <LordMelkor> well
[08:39] <LordMelkor> thnx
[08:40] <LordMelkor> i might bbl
[08:40] <clintpatty> k, i used to get i/o error on a fat32 drive on mandrake w/ permission stuff, so didn't know
[08:40] <FireRabbit> clintpatty, really? that's wonky
[08:40] <clintpatty> so was the mandrake i was using
[08:40] <FireRabbit> hehe
[08:40] <Atlas95> hello
[08:40] <Atlas95> i wich you an happy new year guys (sorry for my englsih :p)
[08:40] <FireRabbit> in all my experience, I/O errors reading from cds have always meant i either dropped the drive or scratched the disk
[08:41] <clintpatty> uh oh
[08:41] <clintpatty> man, i should go to bed
[08:41] <clintpatty> and compile openoffice2 overnight
[08:42] <FireRabbit> you need to compile openoffice?
[08:43] <clintpatty> yeah
[08:43] <timfrost> clintpatty. what is wrmg wth the  OO.2 versons in the repositories?
[08:43] <clintpatty> i'm not using Ubuntu timfrost
[08:43] <FireRabbit> oh
[08:44] <clintpatty> i just burned the livedvd though
[08:44] <clintpatty> and will try it
[08:44] <FireRabbit> you know you could probably download, install, and configure ubuntu in less time than it will take to compile openoffice ;)
[08:44] <clintpatty> yeah but i will compile openoffice in my sleep
[08:45] <clintpatty> do yall think Ubuntu is the best distro
[08:46] <FireRabbit> for a workstation i certainly do
[08:46] <FireRabbit> for severs i still use debian
[08:46] <juuva> How I can upgrade kernel using apt? Made couple of days ago server-install of 5.10
[08:47] <juuva> I just cant figure out where kernel has been deselected
[08:48] <omoore> thx to u guys for a very easy way of installing linux onto a pc that has no cd or floppy but can boot from usb stick.. and for very good instructions on how to do so
[08:49] <sportman> happy new years, wow breazy is nice compared to hoary
[08:49] <omoore> this was my first time instlling ubuntu via usb stick and it was a very pleasant experience (ie.. easy + successfull)
[08:49] <clintpatty> what do yall Ubuntu people use to rip/encode DVDs?
[08:50] <Davey`> what can I use to *edit* EXIF data?
[08:51] <FireRabbit> sportman, :)
[08:53] <FireRabbit> Davey`, wow, i can think of lots of things that will *view* it... :)
[08:54] <Davey`> FireRabbit: nope, my digicam looses the date when the batteries dies, so some of my pictures have 1/1/2000 as the date, and I *know* thats wrong
[08:54] <FireRabbit> ooh, sucky
[08:54] <FireRabbit> i wonder if f-spot can do that
[08:54] <FireRabbit> did you try?
[08:54] <La_PaRCa> Davey`, albumshaper
[08:54] <Davey`> nope, though I just tagged about 2/3 of my images in f-spot, I'm going to try the flickr upload stuff shortly :)
[08:55] <Davey`> installing now La_PaRCa
[08:55] <Davey`> man, I just love this new 10Mbit cable, Fetched 4365kB in 9s (438kB/s)
[08:55] <Davey`> I remember when it took me 15 *minutes* :/
[08:55] <Viper12> clint, using dvd:rip, avidemux seems to work very well.
[08:55] <clintpatty> k
[08:56] <La_PaRCa> Davey`, dont make me come there and whap you upside the head. I still am on 256Kbps
[08:56] <Davey`> La_PaRCa: hehe, I just got 10Mbit last week
[08:56] <Davey`> had only 5Mbit before that
[08:57] <La_PaRCa> :/
[08:57] <Davey`> I call up and its like "Hi, I'd like to upgrade to 10Mbit" "Sure, we can do that" "How long will it take to install?" "Oh, should be activated in about 5 minutes, have a nice day"
[08:57] <FireRabbit> 4 megabits here
[08:57] <Davey`> I'm like, whats the friggen hold up!? 5 minutes? sheesh
[08:57] <FireRabbit> Davey`, haha
[08:58] <FireRabbit> i think we could upgrade to 8.. but i dont think 10 is avaliable, i forget though
[08:58] <Lord_Athur> hi
[08:58] <Davey`> La_PaRCa: albumshaper no workee :/
[08:58] <Davey`> (doesn't edit EXIF rather)
[08:58] <Lord_Athur> i cannot mount an initrd file
[08:59] <Lord_Athur> what should I do?
[08:59] <La_PaRCa> Davey`, um, I read somewhere out there about something called reveal
[08:59] <mrkoje> I wish I could get faster broadband
[08:59] <mrkoje> this roadrunner crap is pathetic
[08:59] <Davey`> mrkoje: I'm on RR too, its awesome, but of course, they just offer their services on top of the cable companies lines
[08:59] <La_PaRCa> !jhead
[09:00] <ubotu> La_PaRCa: Are you smoking crack?
[09:00] <La_PaRCa> !kde
[09:00] <ubotu> I heard kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[09:00] <Lord_Athur> can anybody help me?
[09:00] <johndarkhorse> !ask
[09:00] <mrkoje> Davey`,  I hate roadrunner... they say "up too 5mbs" all i ever get is 2mb up and a measly 50kb up
[09:00] <La_PaRCa> Davey`, theres something on the repos called jhead, maybe look at that
[09:00] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Lord_Athur about ask
[09:00] <Davey`> OKies :)
[09:01] <Davey`> mrkoje: I can test upto 8Mbit on my wireless connection here... I would hope my roomie on the ethernet cable gets damn close to the full 10Mbit
[09:01] <Davey`> of course, I live in god waiting room, not many internet users here ;)
[09:01] <mrkoje> Davey`,  well your lucky
[09:02] <Lord_Athur> johndarkhorse, I've tried to mount the initrd file with: mount -o loop -t ext2  /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd /mnt/a , but i recive the following message: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,
[09:02] <Lord_Athur>        missing codepage or other error
[09:02] <Lord_Athur>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:02] <Lord_Athur>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:02] <Lord_Athur> then what should I do?
[09:03] <HappyFool> try leave off '-t ext2' and see if the FS type can be auto-detected
[09:04] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool, look:
[09:04] <Lord_Athur> ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy
[09:04] <Lord_Athur> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:04] <La_PaRCa> Lord_Athur, you sure its ext2?
[09:05] <HappyFool> what does 'file /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd' say ?
[09:05] <Lord_Athur> La_PaRCa, yes, i am
[09:05] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool, I dont understand you :S
[09:05] <HappyFool> Lord_Athur: run the 'file' command on your initrd file
[09:06] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool, my file says:
[09:06] <Lord_Athur> /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd: gzip compressed data, was "initrd", from Unix, max compression
[09:07] <FireRabbit> happy new year everyone
[09:08] <Lord_Athur> thanks FireRabbit
[09:08] <HappyFool> try something like 'zcat /home/alejandro/Banux/isolinux/initrd > /home/alejandro/initrd.tmp' and then 'file /home/alejandro/initrd.tmp'
[09:08] <Lord_Athur> happy new year for you too
[09:09] <FireRabbit> fireworks on tv sure are lame
[09:09] <Lord_Athur> HappyFool,
[09:09] <Lord_Athur> /home/alejandro/initrd.tmp: Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data
[09:09] <La_PaRCa> Lord_Athur, ok, now mount the .tmp
[09:10] <Lord_Athur> ok
[09:11] <Lord_Athur> gracias HappyFool
[09:11] <Lord_Athur> thanks all
[09:11] <Lord_Athur> bye
[09:13] <raymond> i need help instralling software
[09:13] <raymond> installing*
[09:14] <raymond> can someone help me install softwear
[09:15] <crimsun> what software?
[09:15] <liable> raymond: err, what is the problem, apt/synaptic make it fairly painless..
[09:15] <raymond> i dont know how ti install softwear
[09:15] <raymond> to*
[09:15] <FireRabbit> what do you want to install
[09:16] <raymond> limewire
[09:16] <FireRabbit> extract it
[09:16] <FireRabbit> and run the runLime.sh script
[09:16] <raymond> k
[09:16] <raymond> their is not one
[09:16] <FireRabbit> i dont think there are any packages
[09:17] <FireRabbit> yeah there is :)
[09:17] <crimsun> you have to download limewire from their Web site
[09:17] <raymond> i did
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> is not package
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> I donwload it from the website
[09:17] <raymond> its for linux
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes
[09:17] <FireRabbit> i meant "yeah there is a runLime script"
[09:17] <raymond> but i cant install it
[09:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes
[09:18] <Inf3ctedFx> just download LimeWire the open terminal and type sh runLime
[09:18] <FireRabbit> i had thrown together an updated limewire package at once
[09:18] <Inf3ctedFx> and thats all
[09:18] <FireRabbit> but i didnt update it with the latest version
[09:18] <raymond> k
[09:18] <wizdumb> happy new year everyone
[09:19] <raymond> it did not work
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> ???
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> did u install JAva?
[09:19] <raymond> i am a noob a linux
[09:19] <raymond> no i did not
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks
[09:19] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u something
[09:20] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on
[09:20] <FireRabbit> sudo apt-get install java-package :)
[09:20] <wizdumb> trying to install ubuntu 5.1.0, having an issue with the cdrom not being detected
[09:20] <wizdumb> it boots to ubuntu, and loads up ok.. but when it tries to detect and mount the cdrom, it fails.  Is this a common occurance?
[09:20] <FireRabbit> raymond, here are the directions http://wiki.serios.net/wiki/Debian_Java_JRE/JDK_installation_with_java-package
[09:20] <raymond> thanks
[09:20] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  look read thos howto almos at the bottom ther is a secciotn talking about how to install java --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:21] <Inf3ctedFx> sorryu for my english is not really good xD
[09:21] <FireRabbit> ah, same thing basically
[09:21] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  there is a section say: Getting Java
[09:22] <raymond> k found it
[09:24] <mihai> happy new year!
[09:25] <Inf3ctedFx> same 2 u
[09:25] <mihai> can some tell me of theyr experience if vcdimager in ubuntu breezy really works?
[09:26] <mihai> because I've written a cd-rw using a vcd2 image made with it and then it was unridable
[09:26] <mihai> the solution I've found was using mkvcdfs from vcd-tools
[09:26] <mihai> but I need to know if vcdimager really works
[09:26] <mihai> can some help?
[09:29] <mihai> another problem is that mkvcdfs makes only a vcd1.1 filesystem, which is guess is somehow inferior to the vcd2
[09:29] <raymond> i dont under the website
[09:29] <raymond> that much
[09:29] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  what the site I gave u?
[09:30] <raymond> yea
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me c if I can help u
[09:30] <raymond> i am a compleat noob at linux
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> go here and download the Java --> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[09:30] <Langly1> raymond, you are also a noob at spelling.
[09:30] <raymond> wick one
[09:30] <Inf3ctedFx> donwload the one is NOT FROM netBeans
[09:30] <raymond> witch*
[09:31] <raymond> the j2EE
[09:31] <Inf3ctedFx> there r 2 download the second one
[09:31] <Langly1> which not witch
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> the JRE 5.0 Update 6
[09:32] <Amaranth> !javadeb
[09:32] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:32] <BlackJudas> Anyone familiar with hardware?  Or can someone suggest a channel to discuss memory timings?   :)
[09:32] <Langly1> witch:  A woman claiming or popularly believed to possess magical powers and practice sorcery.  #  A believer or follower of Wicca; a Wiccan.
[09:32] <jdcaserockies> Can someone help me with my printer?
[09:32] <raymond> wich linux version
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> Laney:  dud he's trying to get help not to been point it
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  hold on
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> Go to [WWW]  http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp and click on Download JRE 5.0 Update 6
[09:32] <Amaranth> raymond: check out the link ubotu just gave
[09:33] <jdcaserockies> hp officejet k80, it is installed, but won't print, hplip and cupsys are running, whats wrong with it?
[09:33] <Inf3ctedFx> Ensure you do not choose the link with the NetBeans bundle or "J2EE 1.4".
[09:33] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  in that link everything is explaint
[09:33] <raymond> k
[09:33] <SillyZ> btw, id like to say thank you to everyone whos helped me here getting started with ubuntu!!
[09:34] <Amaranth> raymond: just install http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[09:34] <Amaranth> raymond: much better than getting it from sun
[09:34] <jdcaserockies> sillyz, are you being serious or sarcastic?
[09:34] <Inf3ctedFx> now raymond  where it said u have to type on the command line make sure u r typing that on "the Terminal"
[09:34] <SillyZ> found the solution for the 'no floppy boot' installation method... yank the drive out, move it over to another box, run setup until its ready to reboot, then move the drive back to the original box , done
[09:34] <raymond> k
[09:34] <Inf3ctedFx> i'm also new on ubuntu..
[09:35] <jdcaserockies> anyone good with printing problems?
[09:35] <Amaranth> Inf3ctedFx: Just have him use the deb.
[09:35] <Inf3ctedFx> and everything I learn is because I like to read.. and finding out
[09:35] <FireRabbit> theres a deb?
[09:35] <Amaranth> jdcaserockies: Not I, sorry.
[09:35] <Amaranth> FireRabbit: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[09:35] <jdcaserockies> Anyone else?
[09:35] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  I dont know about that one.. I install the Java with that howto and is pretty simple to follow...
[09:35] <FireRabbit> Amaranth, i thought that the license forbids this sort of redistribution
[09:36] <SillyZ> jdcaserockies, I was being serious
[09:36] <Amaranth> FireRabbit: it's from a non-us server ;)
[09:36] <jdcaserockies> sillyz, k
[09:36] <FireRabbit> Amaranth, ah i see
[09:36] <SillyZ> intelikey I belive it was , and a few others
[09:37] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  if u have questions let me know
[09:37] <raymond> k
[09:37] <jdcaserockies> can someone help with hplip, hpoj, etc?
[09:39] <jdcaserockies> anybody good with printers in ubuntu?
[09:39] <wil_> anybody have an ipod mini that has been umounted from gnome's subcontextual menu and does not show up under mount in term but ho's screen still reads "do not disconnect"?
[09:41] <Truth> Hey. Can someone explain something to me.
[09:41] <Truth> I try to install Slackware, and fdisk can't seek my hard drive.
[09:41] <Inf3ctedFx> Truth:  did u ask on #slackware ?
[09:41] <Truth> I use Ubuntu, and it sees and partitions the HD fine, and it is installing as I speak.
[09:42] <SillyZ> Truth, is it on a raid controller ?
[09:42] <Truth> Inf3ctedFx, yeah, I've been on there a bit. I just wondered if Ubuntu has a weird workaround in the installed.
[09:42] <Truth> SillyZ, it's a laptop.
[09:42] <Inf3ctedFx> I use to have slack and never gave me a problem on the partition Truth
[09:42] <SillyZ> how big of drive ?
[09:42] <FireRabbit> maybe its a newer kernel?
[09:42] <Truth> Like 20GB or so.
[09:42] <Inf3ctedFx> I made a partition of 20 gig
[09:42] <Stew_Lappy> my laptop doesn't work with all distros - sata controller
[09:43] <SillyZ> hmm are you doing a fdisk /dev/hda1 by chance maybe ?
[09:43] <Inf3ctedFx> not really I had windows and I partiton my HDD with partiton magic
[09:43] <Truth> I dunno.
[09:43] <Truth> it's weird.
[09:43] <Inf3ctedFx> then  I install Slack
[09:43] <SillyZ> ouch pqmagic, does strange things to harddrives
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> not really
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> it works pretty great 4 mwe
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> me
[09:44] <SillyZ> Ive got one here thatll throw an 117 error everytime, if ya use pq
[09:44] <relic> well, what's reasons that they don't make a 1394b built-in HDD?
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> in fact I partiton this one with the same partition magic
[09:44] <relic> or SAS
[09:44] <Inf3ctedFx> I use norton partition magic
[09:45] <andres> feliz ao!!!
[09:45] <Inf3ctedFx> Feliz ano andres
[09:45] <andres> happy new year ;)
[09:45] <Inf3ctedFx> hey raymond how ya' doing so far?
[09:46] <raymond> im still dowloading java
[09:46] <relic> if they used 1394, HDD <--> HDD  it's possible
[09:46] <Inf3ctedFx> what kind of connection do u have raymond ?
[09:46] <raymond> dsl
[09:46] <Inf3ctedFx> why so slow?
[09:46] <raymond> it is the chepest thing my parents could find
[09:46] <relic> 150 baud me
[09:47] <Inf3ctedFx> mm where r u locate it?
[09:47] <raymond> i dont under stand
[09:47] <Inf3ctedFx> r u in USA?
[09:47] <raymond> yea
[09:48] <Inf3ctedFx> r u sure?
[09:48] <liable> !u
[09:48] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[09:48] <raymond> im pretty sure
[09:48] <SillyZ> Inf3ctedFx, Im running a piii-750 gateway solo 5300 here, dual boot Win2k / Ubuntu
[09:48] <Inf3ctedFx> cuz ur english it seems to me is kind bad than mine lol
[09:48] <SillyZ> no cdrom....
[09:48] <raymond> im a bad speller
[09:49] <relic> OEM machines = s***
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm running a Athlon Xp 2.0 gig 200 gig HDD
[09:49] <raymond> i feld english twice
[09:49] <SillyZ> nice
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> 100 gig 4 Win and 100 Gig for Linux
[09:49] <SillyZ> Ive got a 100gb drive w/ 8mb cache ( 2.5inch ) running in the big box
[09:49] <Inf3ctedFx> cool
[09:49] <SillyZ> 2.5 -> 3.5 adapter, it cooks right along
[09:49] <raymond> whats a big box
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  I'm from colombia so, dont worry lol
[09:50] <SillyZ> amd-1900xp+
[09:50] <raymond> the country
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> Yep
[09:50] <raymond> cool
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> there is not state lol
[09:50] <Inf3ctedFx> unless u mean Columbia
[09:50] <raymond> in usa their is
[09:51] <Inf3ctedFx> nahh Colombia and Columbia r complete different
[09:51] <Inf3ctedFx> xD
[09:51] <Inf3ctedFx> but I'm on Florida
[09:51] <raymond> im a bad speller
[09:51] <raymond> i live in columbia
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> Ohio?
[09:52] <raymond> i dont know why my dsl is so slow?
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> who is ur DSL Company?
[09:52] <raymond> bellsouth
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> bellsouth runs 1.5 megas
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> should be fast
[09:52] <raymond> it is slow as hell
[09:52] <Inf3ctedFx> u might have bad connection on ur house..
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> maybe u have a wrong filter setting up
[09:53] <raymond> maby
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> remember the line goes from the jack on the wall to ur dsl box has 2 be clean, nothing in between
[09:53] <raymond> o shit
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> no filters, no adapters, not spliters
[09:53] <Inf3ctedFx> clean.. straight up
[09:54] <_max_> Infe3ctedFx, don't ya know the worst english spellers come from the US and UK ;p
[09:54] <Inf3ctedFx> in the back on ur dsl box how many cords do u have?
[09:54] <raymond> 3
[09:54] <Inf3ctedFx> _max_:  thats the english i learn lol
[09:54] <raymond> power phone network
[09:54] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  so I believe u have the Power cord, the Ethernet Cord and the Phone cord
[09:54] <raymond> cables
[09:54] <raymond> yea
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> the phone one is plug into the one said DSL LINE? or something like that?
[09:55] <raymond> java is done
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> NO FILTERS??!!!
[09:55] <Inf3ctedFx> ok cool
[09:55] <raymond> i have filters
[09:55] <raymond> and the phone line is pluged i right
[09:55] <raymond> in
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  dude u r filtering the signal thats why is slow has hell
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> the filters r just for any other phone device in ur house using the same DSL line
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> but no for the DSL Box
[09:56] <Amaranth> If you put a filter on the line running to the DSL modem you will get _no_ connection.
[09:56] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  it will sometimes but pretty slow
[09:56] <raymond> it says to plug it in the filters
[09:57] <Amaranth> You need filters for all the phones though, otherwise when someone is on the phone you're connection will slow down or die.
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> Believe me I use to be Tech Support for AOL lol
[09:57] <raymond> i do
[09:57] <raymond> download is done now what
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  make sure u phone line comes from the Jack on the wall to the DSL box there  is not filter in between
[09:57] <chterrazas> hi!
[09:57] <Inf3ctedFx> ok raymond let me c
[09:58] <Inf3ctedFx> did u donwload it on desktop?
[09:58] <chterrazas> Neeed a little help with the Gnome Calendar... Anyone?
[09:58] <raymond> yea
[09:58] <Inf3ctedFx> open terminal and type this: cd Desktop
[09:58] <Inf3ctedFx> the type chmod +x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[09:59] <Inf3ctedFx> Install the java-package and java-common, as well as fakeroot (which allows a non-root user to create the package derived from Sun's bin file)
[09:59] <Inf3ctedFx> sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[09:59] <chterrazas> How can I change the first day of the week (Mon) for the Realone (Sun)???
[09:59] <x86__> weeee
[10:00] <x86__> ubundo dapper here \o/
[10:00] <x86__> thanks for all
[10:00] <x86__> bye bye =)
[10:00] <chterrazas> come on guys...
[10:00] <raymond> says comand not found "+x"
[10:00] <Wilf> Inf3ctedFx, ran the java thing, do i need to do anything else to make programs find it?
[10:01] <Inf3ctedFx> not really Wilf
[10:01] <Inf3ctedFx> Wilf:  the info is here --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:01] <Wilf> limewire won't work for me :\
[10:02] <Wilf> says i need the jre
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> Wilf:  yes u need to install the Java
[10:02] <chterrazas> use... the OpenVer...
[10:02] <Amaranth> Wilf: forget limewire, get apollon
[10:02] <Wilf> Inf3ctedFx, i just followed the instructions you just posted.
[10:02] <chterrazas> Wilf : Use FrostWire
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> check the website I gave u Wilf  is almost at the bottom
[10:02] <Inf3ctedFx> I use Limewire and Gktnutella
[10:03] <raymond> file:///home/raymond/Desktop/sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2%2B10_i386.deb.part
[10:03] <raymond> what is the part?
[10:03] <chterrazas> LimeWire.... Filter your search criteria...
[10:03] <Inf3ctedFx> where did u get that raymond ?
[10:03] <raymond> i got two java on my desktop
[10:03] <Amaranth> raymond: it means the file didn't finish
[10:03] <raymond> when i downloaded it
[10:04] <raymond> my dsl is fucked up
[10:04] <Amaranth> raymond: either firefox is still downloading it or your closed firefox while it was downloading
[10:04] <Inf3ctedFx> probably didn't download propietly
[10:04] <deFrysk> nicotine is my p2p app
[10:04] <raymond> it sayed it was done
[10:04] <deFrysk> always works and is in the repos
[10:04] <raymond> file:///home/raymond/Desktop/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0%2Bupdate06_i386.deb
[10:04] <raymond> that was the other part
[10:05] <Amaranth> raymond: open a terminal and run 'file ~/Desktop/sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2%2B10_i386.deb.part' (no quotes)
[10:05] <raymond> k
[10:05] <chterrazas> Does anyone knows how can I change the first day of the week (Mon) to (Sun)???
[10:06] <Inf3ctedFx> not really chterrazas
[10:06] <chterrazas> 2 bad
[10:06] <dos-assassin> I apoligize for butting in... but I am completely clueless... see I was given Ubuntu Linux as a gift and when Bill Gate's POS OS crashed on me I reformatted to it... now I understand most of the basics but I can't get my torrents to work correctly and I am not 100% sure on how to install things... any help would be much appreciated
[10:06] <mahangu> is there a decent video editor for ubuntu?
[10:07] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  so u said Apollon is good?
[10:07] <chterrazas> Ive lookin for the answere and nothing
[10:07] <Amaranth> chterrazas: probably in evolution
[10:07] <mahangu> dos-assassin, torrents work with gnome bit torrent
[10:07] <Amaranth> Inf3ctedFx: yeah, except it's a KDE app so it looks out of place
[10:07] <mahangu> dos-assassin, for installing stuff use synaptic
[10:07] <mahangu> ubotu, tell dos-assassin about synaptic
[10:08] <Wilf> Inf3ctedFx, /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[10:08] <Inf3ctedFx> chterrazas:  what about that Frostwire?
[10:08] <dos-assassin> I know how to use the synaptic and even the apt-get but I tend to find alot of files in tar.gz and I need to know how to manually install them... I have looked at some sites following their instructions but it never seems to work
[10:08] <raymond> it sayed no file or directory
[10:08] <chterrazas> Amaranth: I did that befero here... and nothing... the feature of switching the day of that calendar its gone since I dont remember wich version..
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> whats the diference btwen FrostWire and LimeWire?
[10:09] <mahangu> Inf3ctedFx, frostwire is the FOSS fork
[10:09] <Amaranth> Wilf: you need to install java-package
[10:09] <chterrazas> FrostWire its Open Source and is FREE
[10:09] <mahangu> Inf3ctedFx, iirc, Limewire is no longer free as in speech
[10:09] <chterrazas> as FrEeDom!!
[10:09] <chterrazas> =)
[10:09] <mahangu> chterrazas, yeah it helps to say freedom rather than free
[10:10] <Amaranth> free vs Free
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> ok.. so btween Lime and Frost,  Frost is better cuz is free? or is better on dowloads?
[10:10] <raymond> i am really good at using windows linux is new to me
[10:10] <chterrazas> LimeWire filters your search...
[10:10] <Amaranth> Inf3ctedFx: apollon can download from kazaa, gnutella, openft, and ares
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> chterrazas:  what about Frost?
[10:10] <chterrazas> Its supposed that Frost doesnt
[10:10] <Amaranth> aries? something like that
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> Amaranth:  that sounds good
[10:11] <raymond> i just wont to get a sharing program
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> ares
[10:11] <chterrazas> Take a look here... http://www.frostwire.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> what happend with the java?
[10:11] <raymond> yea
[10:11] <raymond> it sayed no such file or directy
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> u might need to download it again
[10:12] <raymond> ok
[10:12] <cosco> hey guys :)
[10:12] <cosco> happy new year
[10:12] <chterrazas> Same 2 U
[10:12] <chterrazas> cosco
[10:13] <dos-assassin> Can Ares work on Linux and if so how do you convert .exe. to .deb?
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  yes, with the wine xD
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> I didt it with wine
[10:13] <cosco> wine or cedega :)
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> wine
[10:13] <dos-assassin> Ok, and how would I go about doing that?
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:
[10:13] <raymond> yea
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  apt-get install wine
[10:13] <Inf3ctedFx> check ur query raymond
[10:14] <raymond> i dont know how\
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> what irc client do u have?
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> X-chat?
[10:14] <raymond> i am a windows guy
[10:14] <raymond> yea
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> r u on windows right now?
[10:14] <cosco> lol ^^
[10:14] <raymond> no
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> ok,.. so which irc client r u using?
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> BitchX, xchat, irssi
[10:15] <mahangu> is there a way to open a man page in a searchable gui
[10:15] <raymond> x-chat for linux
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> I send u a query
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> look for a new tab with my nick
[10:15] <raymond> k
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> or type /query Inf3ctedFx  Hello there
[10:15] <ganteng> k
[10:16] <ganteng> k
[10:17] <dos-assassin> Ok I used sudo apt-get install wine, and the sudo apt-get update... now I have the Ares.exe file... how do I open it?
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  wine Ares.exer
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> dos-assassin:  wine Ares.exe
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  dude
[10:18] <raymond> yea
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> did u read what I type?
[10:18] <raymond> yea
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> so?
[10:18] <cosco> I have a problem ...Totem movie player does not start at me .. error: The video output is in use by other application .. please close the app or choose another output
[10:18] <cosco> any ideeas?
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> type /query Inf3ctedFx  Hello there
[10:18] <raymond> im am so lost
[10:18] <dos-assassin> Ok so wine aresregular189_installer.exe correct?
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> hahahaa
[10:19] <raymond> i did that
[10:19] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  type HERE /query Inf3ctedFx
[10:19] <mrkoje> happy new year
[10:19] <Inf3ctedFx> it will open another tab
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  go here  #Telarius
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> --> double click here #Telraius
[10:21] <raymond> i typed yea after you said here did you not see it
[10:21] <Inf3ctedFx> double click on --> #Telarius
[10:22] <sportmankid> hey
[10:22] <hydroksyde> looks like it's 2006 pretty much everywhere by now
[10:22] <sportmankid> where can i find out if my firewire is detected
[10:22] <hydroksyde> dmesg
[10:22] <SillyZ> dmesg | grep -i 1394
[10:23] <SillyZ> well that was redundant, -i #### rofl
[10:23] <sportmankid> ok detected
[10:23] <sportmankid> :)
[10:23] <cosco> ok .. i tried wine an application .. got an error and screwed my resolution .. how can i set it back?
[10:23] <hydroksyde> xrandr
[10:24] <sportmankid> hmm now to get graphics accelleration
[10:24] <hydroksyde> xrandr -s 0 usually
[10:24] <sportmankid> anyone have luck on ati mobility 9600
[10:24] <hydroksyde> sportman, which card?
[10:24] <hydroksyde> erm
[10:24] <hydroksyde> ATI linux display drivers?
[10:24] <cosco> thanks
[10:24] <sportmankid> you think that will do it?
[10:24] <hydroksyde> probably
[10:24] <sportmankid> synaptic will have it?
[10:24] <hydroksyde> maybe
[10:25] <hydroksyde> i think it does
[10:25] <hydroksyde> in restricted i think
[10:25] <marcster> hi. i just installed ubuntu. im very new with linux and im having problems with apt. i just did apt-setup without problems. but i cant seem to install anything with apt-get install
[10:25] <sportmankid> yea i unrestricked everything
[10:25] <hydroksyde> hmm...
[10:25] <hydroksyde> i'm not an apt person
[10:26] <marcster> me too. i got too used to urpmi
[10:26] <hydroksyde> i'm just a slackware fellow who is trying to figure out ubuntu so I can sell computers with linux preinstalled
[10:26] <cosco> how do i install mozzila active x ?
[10:26] <hydroksyde> activeX? why would you want that?
[10:26] <hydroksyde> it's just a big security hole
[10:27] <chterrazas> I recommend this for those who wich to install the common apps to work with music, video and internet stuff... "easybreezy0.33"
[10:27] <cosco> kydroksyde: i need it for wine .. its requested in some appz
[10:27] <hydroksyde> ok
[10:27] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[10:27] <sportmankid> hmm
[10:27] <hydroksyde> i'm not sure
[10:27] <sportmankid> xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:27] <sportmankid> Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators
[10:27] <sportmankid> my card is officially supported by that
[10:27] <sportmankid> should i try it out?
[10:28] <hydroksyde> that sounds like it might be the open source driver... the closed source one might be faster
[10:28] <sportmankid> ah
[10:28] <sportmankid> ok
[10:28] <hydroksyde> i don't know about ATI
[10:28] <sportmankid> check the ati website i guess?
[10:28] <cosco> is CEDEGA freeware?
[10:28] <hydroksyde> but the nv driver in x.org doesn't support acceleration, but the nvidia one from nvidia does
[10:28] <hydroksyde> cosco, no
[10:28] <cosco> :|
[10:29] <hydroksyde> sportmankid, probably
[10:29] <hydroksyde> cosco, not unless you can figure out how to get it from the CVS
[10:29] <cosco> lol
[10:29] <hydroksyde> cosco, and compile it
[10:29] <j2daosh> what is up people
[10:29] <cosco> i jumped on linux just to get legal :D believe
[10:29] <hydroksyde> erm... the ceiling, the roof, the sky
[10:30] <cosco> kidding
[10:30] <hydroksyde> lol
[10:30] <hydroksyde> that was part of the reason for me
[10:30] <hydroksyde> i don't like having illegal software on my computer
[10:30] <cosco> well i do
[10:30] <cosco> :)
[10:30] <cosco> but i had some problems with cosco.com
[10:31] <cosco> and i was afraid to keep the fucking windows .. all webmasteroing programs.. ufck them
[10:31] <cosco> :>
[10:31] <j2daosh> ok i know i have asked this question before but i just woke up and cant remember yet... where are applications that have been recently installed but not put in my applications menu? /usr/bin?
[10:31] <Chameleon22> installed sane, etc. kooka sems to see the scanner but when i actually start it (the app0 i get an error; no sane support... any ideas why and how i can get the scanner working?
[10:31] <hydroksyde> j2daosh, there, or /usr/local/bin
[10:31] <hydroksyde> j2daosh, maybe /opt/bin also
[10:31] <j2daosh> woot woot, thank you very much hydroksyde
[10:32] <hydroksyde> j2daosh, type `which` at the console
[10:32] <hydroksyde> that will tell you
[10:32] <sportmankid> hmm the package is a .run?
[10:32] <j2daosh> which what?
[10:32] <sportmankid> the ati thing
[10:32] <sportmankid> is in .run
[10:32] <sportmankid> u think sh wi11 do the trick?
[10:33] <SillyZ> q: Im running a linksys wireless nic, 5ghz and 2.4ghz , anyway to tell the ath_pci driver to enable the extra channels for the 5ghz range ?
[10:33] <hydroksyde> sportmankid, yes, run it with sh
[10:33] <sportmankid> thanks
[10:34] <hydroksyde> sportmankid, you might have to kill X, then run it from a console
[10:34] <j2daosh> .... hmmm... i cant seem to find the program in any of those directories...
[10:34] <dos-assassin> How do I display a .Ink file?
[10:37] <sportmankid> kill x?
[10:37] <sportmankid> i dont 1ike the sound of that
[10:37] <j2daosh> ok anyone know about a webcam program that has option to prwview before taking a snapshot and video recording/playback?
[10:39] <chterrazas> Hi! Does anyone knows how can I change the first day of the week (Mon) to (Sun) on the "Calendar Panel" (Gnome 2.12)?
[10:40] <Kindred> chterrazas: in evolution preferences I think
[10:42] <chterrazas> Nope...
[10:43] <chterrazas> Kindred: It has the option... but it doesnt affect the gnome panel...
[10:43] <chterrazas> It only works inside Evolution
[10:43] <chterrazas> 0(
[10:48] <sportmankid> how do i ki11 x
[10:48] <marcster> init 3
[10:49] <sportmankid> so ki11 init 3?
[10:49] <crimsun> no
[10:49] <sportmankid> and how do i get to term from there?
[10:49] <crimsun> sportmankid: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[10:50] <crimsun> marcster: Ubuntu, like Debian, doesn't play runlevel games (by default)
[10:50] <ULBT`> anyone alive?
[10:50] <kremonte> having a problem installing; the partitioner won't open :'(
[10:51] <marcster> i se
[10:51] <marcster> my bad
[10:51] <kremonte> any ideas? it 'starts up' the partitioner, then leaves me there
[10:52] <ULBT`> how do i set a program to start at boot up?
[10:53] <N6REJ> anyone know how to setup lbreakout to play in a lan?  it says it uses 8000 & 80001, I don't have to open those ports on the router do I?
[10:54] <kremonte> ohoo. after 19 minutes, it loaded! hurray
[10:57] <ULBT`> how do i set a program to start at boot up?
[10:57] <Truth> Can I be a certified Ubuntu expert?
[10:57] <ULBT`> how do i set a program to start at boot up?
[10:58] <Truth> Can I be a certified Ubuntu expert?
[10:58] <milksteak> no you can't.
[10:59] <Truth> Damn you, milksteak.
[10:59] <Truth> You're everywhere.
[10:59] <milksteak> <3
[10:59] <milksteak> yes
[10:59] <ajmitch> certification isn't done yet, it should be later this year
[10:59] <milksteak> I follow you!
[10:59] <Truth> ahahaa
[10:59] <fli7e> quick question: should pcmcia cards (specifically, an orinoco wireless card) automatically be detected by ubuntu?
[10:59] <ripclaw> hi all
[11:00] <fli7e> when inserted hot into a running system after boot, i mean
[11:00] <johndarkhorse> ajmitch: you mean nalioth can be officially certifiable ?   :/
[11:01] <fli7e> ....maybe it's not a quick question?
[11:02] <sportmankid> yea um that driver thing did not work
[11:02] <sportmankid> gave me the most retarded errors
[11:02] <dts_> what's the best way to get just a few packages from an "official debian mirror"
[11:02] <johndarkhorse> dts_: official debian pkgs may officially wreck your box
[11:03] <ajmitch> johndarkhorse: I might become certifiable as well :)
[11:03] <dts_> so what do i do then when i can't compile a module because of dependency problems
[11:03] <ajmitch> dts_: you install the ubuntu packages
[11:04] <sportmankid> how do you save your xwindow configuration file
[11:04] <dts_> well ubuntu doesn't have psycopg2
[11:04] <ajmitch> dts_: python-psycopg?
[11:04] <johndarkhorse> dts_: you can build all you like using debian source but binaries will not be good to use
[11:05] <fli7e> dts_, best way is to turn on universe and multiverse repositories in synaptics and get them there. as johndarkhorse hinted at, debian != ubuntu, and "official debian" packages may not behave well with ubutuntu
[11:05] <dts_> that's psycopg1
[11:05] <dts_> no unicode
[11:05] <dts_> yea it's not in multi/uni verse
[11:05] <ajmitch> dts_: debian doesn't appear to have psycopg2 either
[11:05] <fli7e> what exactly is the package?
[11:05] <johndarkhorse> dts_: you can put debian deb-src repos in your .list and have apt build from source
[11:06] <dts_> fli7e, it's a python postgres database module
[11:06] <ajmitch> only if you need to, that is :)
[11:06] <fli7e> then you might be alright getting it somewhere else.
[11:06] <dts_> johndarkhorse,
[11:06] <dts_> how do i find the source files for what i need then
[11:06] <ajmitch> dts_: so you need build-dependencies for psycopg2? what do you need to get from debian?
[11:06] <dts_> this is what i ge t when compiling
[11:06] <dts_> error: Note that psycopg needs the module headers and not just the module
[11:06] <dts_> error: itself. If you installed Python or mx.DateTime from a binary package
[11:06] <dts_> error: you probably need to install its companion -dev or -devel package.
[11:07] <ajmitch> dts_: please, don't paste it here
[11:07] <dts_> sorry
[11:07] <dts_> well the specific dependency is pythons datetime module
[11:07] <ajmitch> which suggests that you get python-dev
[11:07] <dts_> which is installed but doesn't have the def
[11:07] <dts_> dev
[11:08] <ajmitch> right
[11:08] <Nik__> any idea why my desktop clock is ticking super fast? the seconds are increasing 3x as fast as they should be
[11:08] <ajmitch> it needs headers from there?
[11:08] <dts_> yep
[11:08] <Manifold> Morning..
[11:08] <Manifold> cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_backup1
[11:08] <Manifold> cp: cannot create regular file `/etc/fstab_backup1': Permission denied
[11:08] <Manifold> How do I get access?
[11:08] <dts_> Manifold sudo cp /etc/fstab ...
[11:08] <Hobbsee> Manifold: stick sudo in front of it
[11:09] <Manifold> Alright.
[11:09] <dts_> so how do i get to the source packages?
[11:09] <deFrysk> dts_, apt-get source -d
[11:09] <ajmitch> dts_: for mxdatetime, apt-get source python-egenix-mxdatetime
[11:10] <sportmankid> how do i restart x
[11:10] <sportmankid> im in it now
[11:10] <sportmankid> i want to just restart it
[11:10] <ajmitch> however I'm not sure how useful that will be, it appears to have few C headers (eg mx.h)
[11:10] <dts_> ajmitch, so if i installed that i'd get the headers you think?
[11:10] <deFrysk> sportman, ctrl-alt-backspace
[11:10] <samitheberber> What IRC client you use?
[11:10] <dts_> hmm
[11:10] <dts_> ajmitch, won't break anything if i try?
[11:11] <ajmitch> dts_: you get that source that it was built from, not the installed headers
[11:11] <dts_> ohh
[11:11] <dts_> i thought it would build from source if you do that
[11:11] <ajmitch> then you'd still just get the binary package that's in ubuntu
[11:12] <dts_> ok, cool thanks
[11:14] <ajmitch> dts_: ah, they do have debian packaging in it, but for python2.3
[11:14] <ajmitch> dts_: you're working on breezy, I assume?
[11:14] <vega-> firefox 1.5 packaged for breezy anywhere?
[11:15] <Sturgeon> synaptic
[11:15] <dts_> ajmitch, do you think we could just get the headers for datetime and complie it ourselves
[11:15] <penguinzdr> happy new year!
[11:15] <dts_> i've done it on other machines but i didn't have the same dependency problems
[11:15] <dts_> happy new year Penguin__
[11:15] <dts_> * penguinzdr
[11:15] <laszlo> ...
[11:16] <ajmitch> dts_: it doesn't need mxdatetime headers
[11:16] <laszlo> using mdsum to verify
[11:16] <Manifold> What's the command to delete a folder?
[11:16] <dts_> rm -R folder
[11:16] <dts_> ajmitch, http://pastebin.com/485936
[11:17] <laszlo> I downloaded a package properly. does it take a long time?
[11:17] <laszlo> this is taking forever.
[11:17] <fli7e> strange question everyone: when working in terminal as root, i'd like to be able to switch back to the previous user by just typing su
[11:17] <fli7e> as opposed to "su prevuser"
[11:17] <fli7e> anyone know where/how to do that
[11:17] <laszlo> fli7e, wouldn't "exit" do that for you?
[11:17] <dts_> fli7e, what about just control-d
[11:18] <fli7e> it would, yes
[11:18] <dts_> ajmitch, you don't get that error?
[11:18] <vega-> Sturgeon: synaptic?
[11:18] <kremonte> hm. i just finished part 1 of ubuntu installation, rebooted and got grub error 17, i have winXP on my primary hd (thus with mbr) and my ubuntu install on my third hd. any suggestions?
[11:18] <ajmitch> dts_: just starting a package build now
[11:18] <fli7e> but im just wondering where i make that chage. is it in the bash config file?
[11:18] <dts_> ajmitch, interesting i didn't get that far
[11:18] <laszlo> fli7e, just type it on the command line
[11:19] <laszlo> md5sum, anyone?
[11:19] <ajmitch> dts_: give me a few minutes & I might have a breezy package for you
[11:19] <fli7e> su by itself doesnt do anything
[11:19] <dts_> fli7e, it should try to make you superuser
[11:19] <fli7e> well, yes, but i mean to switch back to regular
[11:20] <fli7e> it works to switch *to* root, but not to switch back
[11:20] <fli7e> i actually have to either type exit or "su prevuser" to get out of root... "su" by itself doesnt work
[11:21] <molinero> Happy New Year Ubuntu users!
[11:21] <dts_> fli7e, because you're supposed to type exit or hit controll + d
[11:22] <aeon17x> Is there a windows port of ogg2mp3?
[11:22] <Manifold>  /dev/Y /mnt/X ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0
[11:23] <fli7e> seems to work under fedora with bash. oh well, its not a big issue. it's not that it bothers me, its that im curious about where such changes are made to make it do that
[11:23] <Manifold> is that command safe to use in my fstab?
[11:23] <fli7e> thanks anyway though
[11:23] <kremonte> hm. i just finished part 1 of ubuntu installation, rebooted and got grub error 17, i have winXP on my primary hd (thus with mbr) and my ubuntu install on my third hd. any suggestions?
[11:23] <sobersabre> hi. is there an ubuntu build of firefox for x86_64 ?
[11:24] <sobersabre> kremonte, where have you chosen to install grub ?
[11:24] <kremonte> into the MBR
[11:24] <sobersabre> and is this a SCSI/SATA system ?
[11:24] <kremonte> nope
[11:24] <kremonte> aha! i fixed it, i think
[11:25] <sobersabre> :)
[11:25] <kremonte> my BIOS boot priority was hda > hdc >hdb!
[11:25] <sobersabre> you're good :)
[11:25] <kremonte> google ftw, thanks :)
[11:25] <kremonte> woohoo ubuntu
[11:25] <raymond> hello
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> hey
[11:26] <raymond> sry
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> its ok
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> just go to the LimeWire directory on the terminal
[11:26] <Inf3ctedFx> wherever u have ur LimeWire Directory
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> then iside the LimeWire directory u will find the runLime.sh
[11:27] <raymond> it is not installed so it would still be on my desktop right
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> just type on terminal "sh runLime.sh"
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> check ur desktop
[11:27] <Inf3ctedFx> go to ur desktop then do a "ls" and show me
[11:27] <raymond> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin  new file~
[11:27] <raymond> LimeWire                     sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[11:27] <raymond> LimeWireSoftOther.zip
[11:27] <Manifold> Where can I get codecs for the propriety formats like mp3?
[11:28] <mahangu> ubotu, tell Manifold about w32codecs
[11:28] <Sturgeon> Manifold: read the ubuntu docs
[11:28] <Sturgeon> you need to add universe and multiverse to your repositories
[11:28] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  do "cd LimeWire"
[11:28] <Manifold> Nice bot.
[11:28] <raymond> ok
[11:28] <Inf3ctedFx> now do "sh runLime.sh
[11:29] <Inf3ctedFx> now do "sh runLime.sh"
[11:29] <deFrysk> limewire.rpm works perfectly after using alien
[11:29] <deFrysk> just so you know
[11:29] <deFrysk> ;)
[11:29] <raymond> Something went wrong with LimeWire.
[11:29] <raymond> Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[11:29] <raymond> (LimeWire is tested against and works best with with Sun's JRE, Java 1.4+)
[11:29] <raymond> The version of Java in your PATH is:
[11:29] <raymond> java version "1.4.2"
[11:29] <raymond> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[11:29] <mahangu> raymond, use pastebin
[11:30] <mahangu> ubotu, tell raymond about pastebin
[11:30] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  use -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:31] <cancer> hi
[11:31] <raymond> im their
[11:31] <cancer> i've a question
[11:32] <Hobbsee> cancer: ask it
[11:32] <deFrysk> !queastion
[11:32] <ubotu> deFrysk: Are you smoking crack?
[11:32] <Inf3ctedFx> whatever u need to show us just paste it there then give us the website so we can see it
[11:32] <deFrysk> !question
[11:32] <ubotu> deFrysk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:32] <kremonte> lol
[11:32] <deFrysk> tss
[11:32] <deFrysk> :s
[11:32] <deFrysk> !ask
[11:32] <raymond> k
[11:32] <cancer> i just intallt ubuntu but i hadn't to specify a root pwd
[11:32] <johndarkhorse> raymond: it's considered rude to paste, please use a pastebin next time
[11:32] <cancer> how to login as root?
[11:33] <Inf3ctedFx> cancer:  sudo -s
[11:33] <mahangu> !justask
[11:33] <mahangu> :)
[11:33] <ubotu> hmm... justask is The only thing you shouldn't ask here is, ask if you can ask. Just ask!
[11:33] <deFrysk> !sudo
[11:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[11:33] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  I believe u have the old java install
[11:33] <cancer> thx
[11:33] <raymond> crap
[11:33] <Inf3ctedFx> at that point u have to read a lot about synaptic and how to install or remove packages
[11:34] <Inf3ctedFx> is really easy raymond  but I'm kind of tire already and I'm going to bed sorry
[11:34] <raymond> ok
[11:34] <raymond> thanks
[11:34] <Sturgeon> mahangu: sorry dude, i was really triying to help,but i'm kinda very drunk right now
[11:34] <Inf3ctedFx> but u can add my msn inf3ctedfx@gmail.com or arkangelp@msn.com
[11:34] <Manifold> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[11:34] <Manifold> What's that about?
[11:34] <raymond> k
[11:37] <Inf3ctedFx> ok guys Happy new Year for all of u.. I'm leaving now.... c u guys later
[11:37] <raymond> could i install somthing that dose not use this virson of java
[11:38] <Inf3ctedFx> raymond:  u already have it just remove the previews version and thats all
[11:38] <raymond> ok i can do that
[11:38] <marcster> hi. how do i install kernel-sources ?
[11:38] <Inf3ctedFx> Can someone help raymond  to run LimeWire? he already install java 1.0.5 but now he has a problem with the previews java
[11:39] <bimberi> marcster: install linux-tree
[11:39] <marcster> thnks
[11:40] <bimberi> marcster: np, btw if you're compiling something (other than the kernel) you might inly need to install linux-headers-$(uname-r)
[11:40] <bimberi> *only
[11:41] <kremonte> woot! i'm on ubuntu now :D
[11:41] <bimberi> *uname -r  (needed a space) :)
[11:42] <marcster> yup. im already aware of that. thanks
[11:42] <raymond> how do i get rid of the prevous version of java
[11:42] <raymond> please help
[11:43] <raymond> how do i get rid of the prevous version of java
[11:44] <liable> with apt?
[11:44] <raymond> im a noob i dont know what that means
[11:45] <liable> how about trying to learn?
[11:45] <raymond> ok
[11:46] <bimberi> raymond: how did you install the 'previous version'?
[11:46] <raymond> some one helped me
[11:47] <raymond> i dont rilly know how
[11:47] <marcster> which java
[11:47] <comune> hello
[11:48] <raymond> the old version
[11:48] <marcster> no
[11:48] <marcster> $ which java
[11:49] <raymond> sun is the one i just upgraded to
[11:49] <marcster> um. ok.
[11:49] <comune> I'm trying to play an avi (I installed w32codecs) with totem but it can't reproduce it says that it's impossible to recognize the format.. any hint?
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> comune: avi is a package file format, it could be ANY filetype inside
[11:50] <thomas> i'm new to linux and i've a noobish question: where to install programms? is there a directory like C:/Program Files?
[11:51] <marcster> you can see what ffmpeg says about your avi tho.
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> thomas: linux has a hand's off approach to 'installing', if you use synaptic or apt, all your files will end up on the right place
[11:51] <comune> johndarkhorse, its a wmv file
[11:51] <spacey> comune, wmv plays with the win32codec package
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> comune: those are container files, too
[11:52] <spacey> maybe its H264?
[11:52] <thomas> i downloaded a pugin for eclipse and it is asking me for a location to install to
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> comune: files made with wmv9 and 10 may not play well in linux
[11:52] <comune> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-wmv, wmvversion=(int)3, framerate=(double)25, width=(int)320, height=(int)240, codec_data=(buffer)4e291a01
[11:52] <spacey> ah
[11:53] <comune> maybe it's a totem problem?
[11:53] <spacey> try xine and mplayer
[11:53] <molinero> Somebody dat het Nederlands om het even welke weinig spreekt?
[11:54] <spacey> molinero, #ubuntu-nl
[11:54] <molinero> ok spacey thanks and happy new year
[11:55] <bimberi> thomas: i would put it somewhere under /usr/local.  Maybe "sudo mkdir /usr/local/eclipse" and put it there (can always remove it if it doesn't work out)
[11:55] <chterrazas> Hi! Can anyone help me to solve a problem with the "Calendar Panel" in Gnome 2.12?
[11:55] <thomas> thx bimberi
[11:56] <comune> in fact with xine it works...
[11:56] <comune> there is a way to make totem work with xine?
[11:57] <spacey> comune, you can install totem-xine then it uses the xine backend instead of gstreamer
[11:58] <spacey> comune, and if that doesn't work: file a bug :)
[11:58] <comune> spacey, it's better? I mean..why if totem-gstreamer doesn't works is shipped with ubuntu?
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> comune: some of the codecs are patent or otw legally encumbered
[11:59] <afief> How do i make mplayer NOT use XVideo???
[12:00] <ixtok> has anyone been able to set up Parallell-Workstation?
[12:00] <Manifold> !win32 codec
[12:00] <ubotu> Manifold: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:00] <Manifold> ...
[12:01] <Manifold> !win32codec
[12:01] <ubotu> Manifold: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:01] <Pygi> !codecs
[12:01] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:01] <chterrazas> I've tryin to solve this... How to change the startin day of the week (mon) to (sun) inside the Calendar panel on gnome bar! Any ideas?
[12:01] <Pygi> !easysource
[12:01] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:03] <WizzoMaFizzo> In every linux distro I've tried there's always been a problem with games or anything that goes fullscreen, I guess it's when there is a resolution change in X, and the screen gets mixed up all over the place before I uh... "refresh" it with the laptop Fn keys. Can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[12:04] <Pygi> Wizzo: drivers for your card? :)
[12:04] <cosco> Pygi :D
[12:04] <Pygi> hoh. not cosco again :P
[12:05] <afief> How do i make mplayer NOT use XVideo???
[12:05] <cosco> =)))))
[12:05] <WizzoMaFizzo> Pygi: And how do I fix that?
[12:05] <Pygi> afief: please calm down :P
[12:05] <Pygi> Wizzo: well, what card do you have? Ati or Nvidia or ?
[12:05] <WizzoMaFizzo> Ati.
[12:05] <Pygi> afief: stand in line please, thank you....
[12:06] <Pygi> !ati
[12:06] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:06] <Pygi> go there :)
[12:06] <WizzoMaFizzo> So if I get that it should be ok?
[12:06] <afief> pygi: okay
[12:06] <Pygi> yesh
[12:06] <WizzoMaFizzo> Ok thanks.
[12:06] <Pygi> yw
[12:08] <cosco> Pygi #chat.with.pygi.boy
[12:08] <Pygi> no, I won't help you again....
[12:08] <Pygi> enough for this year :P
[12:08] <WizzoMaFizzo> Pygi: Will these all hold true with a mobile Ati card?
[12:08] <cosco> lol
[12:08] <cosco> ^^
[12:08] <cosco> common
[12:09] <Pygi> Wizzo: it should....
[12:09] <cosco> one more time
[12:09] <cosco> :D
[12:09] <Pygi> cosco: hehe :) what's the problem this time?
[12:09] <cosco> Pygi cedega
[12:09] <cosco> ;D
[12:09] <cosco> Pygi brb
[12:10] <Pygi> cosco: oh, no, I ain't gonna help you with Cedega.... Cedega from cvs is buggy, and the other one is not free :P
[12:10] <cosco> Pygi i bought it  :D
[12:10] <Pygi> cosco: ok, so what seems to be an issue?
[12:11] <cosco> cosco@cosco:/media/windows/games/cs1.6$ cedega hl.exe
[12:11] <cosco> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:11] <cosco>   File "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/Point2Play_gui.py", line 2583, in ?
[12:11] <cosco>     config_file_to_use = str("cedega_" + Point2Play_ref.default_winex)
[12:11] <cosco> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'NoneType' objects
[12:11] <cosco> this seems to be the problem
[12:11] <Pygi> huh, don not paste....
[12:11] <Pygi> bad thingy :/
[12:11] <cosco> heh :)
[12:11] <Pygi> huh, no, and no, it doesnt work that work
[12:12] <cosco> ok .. me lost
[12:12] <cosco> repeat pls :D
[12:12] <Pygi> afief: your turn now :) you here?
[12:12] <Pygi> cosco: it won't work that way....
[12:12] <cosco> Pygi why?
[12:12] <Pygi> cosco: basicly because it's not intented to work this way :P
[12:12] <Pygi> afief: ping??
[12:13] <cosco> u dont love me :(
[12:13] <cosco> :) :D :P :>
[12:13] <Pygi> huh
[12:13] <afief> pygi: thanks:) my video driver apparently doesn't support XV, so i changed it all to X11(w/o XV) but i still get a blue screen in mplayer behind the video screen
[12:13] <Pygi> afief: k, go to ~/.mplayer/config
[12:14] <Pygi> find this line: "vo=xv"
[12:14] <Pygi> then please put "#" in front of it
[12:14] <afief> yup have it
[12:14] <Pygi> you puted #?
[12:15] <afief> yes
[12:15] <Pygi> k, now try mplayer if it works...
[12:15] <Pygi> and if not, try restarting X (ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:15] <antix> any way to show files not belonging to a package?
[12:15] <Pygi> cosco: you need to install game under cedega, not to run one under existing partition....
[12:16] <nameeater> !mp3
[12:16] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:17] <Pygi> afief: did it?
[12:17] <afief> pygi: nope, will restart xorg now
[12:17] <Pygi> k
[12:17] <cosco> Pygi i refuse :D
[12:17] <Pygi> cosco: your choice....
[12:17] <spikeh> I've installed libwavpack0 and wavpack, amaroK is still unable to decode .wv files
[12:17] <cosco> Pygi i will play CS on linux with this cedege without installing it :)
[12:17] <spikeh> has anyone managed to get the wavpack decoder working?
[12:17] <cosco> u cannot stop me ^^
[12:17] <Pygi> cosco: then play....
[12:18] <cosco> Pygi :) :D :P :> :D :) :P :>
[12:18] <thegladiator> how do i change the properties of nautilus such that , it doesnt preview pdf files but image files and video files only
[12:19] <kremonte> does ubuntu come with alsa?
[12:19] <kremonte> er, alsa come with ubuntu
[12:19] <thegladiator> yes
[12:19] <kremonte> k, thanks :-)
[12:19] <Manifold> Ello.
[12:19] <thegladiator> how do i change the properties of nautilus such that , it doesnt preview pdf files but image files and video files only
[12:19] <fabio> yo
[12:19] <thegladiator> heylo
[12:20] <Manifold> !codecs
[12:20] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[12:20] <Manifold> !easysource
[12:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:21] <spikeh> I've installed libwavpack0, wavpack and gstream0.8-wavpack, yet amaroK is still unable to decode .wv files; has anyone managed to get the wavpack working?
[12:21] <Manifold> I converted all mine to FLAC recently, so not me..
[12:21] <Manifold> :] 
[12:21] <Matis> how can i exit from man?
[12:21] <johndarkhorse> Matis: "q"
[12:22] <thegladiator> hey someone please enlighten me on removing the preview thing from pdf files in nautius
[12:22] <spikeh> I've transcoded Monkey's Audio to FLAC, but WavPack is natively superior to FLAC so I don't want to transcode it
[12:22] <Pygi> gladiator: hey, please wait :P
[12:22] <thegladiator> pdf preview is really weird
[12:22] <Pygi> root: please exit....do not come here as root....
[12:22] <thegladiator> yep Pygi
[12:22] <root> can someone help me, im trying to apt-get install nvidia-glx, but it just gets stuck at getting headers ?
[12:22] <thegladiator> i am hold
[12:22] <thegladiator> on*
[12:22] <Pygi> root: please login as ussual user....NOT root
[12:22] <root> err, ill do as i like ta ;P
[12:23] <thegladiator> pdf files vary in their size an content hence it is annoying to browse to folders with pdf files
[12:23] <Xaios> Hi, Is there a way for me to delete a windows partition from an ubuntu live cd? I had a problem with norton ghost and I need to get rid of the ghost's virtual partition
[12:23] <Manifold> spikeh, I did it because I randomly had errors compiling from .wav
[12:23] <Pygi> root: huh, then somebody will hack you as he likes it.....
[12:23] <thegladiator> omg! root you are lucky ro be here
[12:23] <Manifold> But only with .wv
[12:23] <Draken> pygi, i have a hardware firewall
[12:23] <Pygi> root: you are still root, please relogin
[12:23] <Pygi> but you are root, that's VERY bad
[12:23] <Draken> sigh noobs
[12:23] <Pygi> please exit and relogin :P
[12:23] <thegladiator> most of the distro channels dont allow root to login actually .
[12:23] <Pygi> lol
[12:24] <Pygi> yea, I am newb :)
[12:24] <Kindred> I could change my ident to root, doesn't mean I am :P
[12:24] <Pygi> afief: any luck?
[12:24] <thegladiator> i guess ubuntu didnt have to think of that as there is nothing called root
[12:24] <afief> pygi: X didn't restart as it should, restarted the whole system. problem presistant
[12:24] <Draken> can someone help me, im trying to apt-get install nvidia-glx, but it just gets stuck at getting headers ?
[12:24] <Manifold> What's wrong with root?
[12:24] <thegladiator> loggin in as root is a bad practise . for security reasons
[12:25] <Manifold> Argh.
[12:25] <Manifold> I can't get the w32 codecs
[12:25] <HappyFool> Xaios: look for 'gparted' on the livecd -- i can't remember if it's there
[12:25] <Xaios> Hi can someone walk me though or point me to a guide that allows me to delete a vfat partition in ubuntu?
[12:25] <Manifold> :/
[12:25] <Xaios> ah thanks Happy Fool!
[12:25] <Xaios> err HappyFool thanks again!
[12:25] <HappyFool> Xaios: otherwise you can start a terminal and use 'fdisk', but do be careful
[12:25] <Manifold> Oh wait, found it.
[12:25] <thegladiator> Pygi, getting back to my ques . any clue ?
[12:26] <Xaios> Yeah I didnt want to resort to that, the last time I did that was back in 95 when installing windows 95.. haha before linux...
[12:26] <Pygi> Draken: I'll be more then glad to help you once you log off and login as normal user....
[12:26] <Xaios> err before linux became easy for noobs like me to use
[12:26] <Pygi> afief: huh :/
[12:26] <thegladiator> seriously i wonder if these ppl are on ubuntu
[12:26] <Pygi> afief: then you have problems  with X
[12:26] <Pygi> gladiator: who?
[12:26] <afief> pygi: the blue window is still there. i wouldn't mind but i can't get fullscreen with it there
[12:26] <kremonte> if i copy files from an NTFS partition to ext3, i can set them off read only, correct?
[12:26] <thegladiator> most of them who use root to login
[12:27] <thegladiator> ubuntu by default masks root and these ppl ask silly questions , well some of them , as root , which makes it very suspicious ;d
[12:27] <Pygi> gladiator: ah, well, they can actually, but heh :/
[12:27] <afief> pygi: how do i know what problem i have?:S
[12:27] <HappyFool> kremonte: if they're on the ext3 partition, you can change the permission, yes
[12:27] <Pygi> afief: you have problem with X server :P
[12:28] <johndarkhorse> cafuego: ping
[12:28] <_rYe_> i need to install ndiswrapper 1.7 and i need the package "dh_make", where is it located? i cant find it in the synaptic package manager
[12:28] <afief> pygi: yup, but what problem exactly? x seems to work fine with everything else
[12:28] <Draken> brb
[12:28] <HappyFool> _rYe_: at a guess, the 'dh-make' package
[12:29] <Pygi> afief: huh, don't know
[12:29] <Pygi> will be back
[12:29] <Madpilot> thegladiator: "what's up with the root password" is one of the most common questions on this channel... :P
[12:29] <thegladiator> pdf files vary in their size an content hence it is annoying to browse to folders with pdf files
[12:29] <Manifold> What type of package should I download to install amsn?
[12:29] <thegladiator> yeah
[12:29] <HrdwrBoB> Madpilot: which is why we have ubotu
[12:29] <Manifold> http://amsn.sourceforge.net/linux-downloads.php
[12:30] <thegladiator> hey someone please enlighten me on removing the preview thing from pdf files in nautius
[12:30] <Madpilot> HrdwrBoB: among other reasons!
[12:30] <thegladiator> i am sure this is silly thing , but i cant find where in nautilus i could change it
[12:30] <thegladiator> in kde it was damn simple
[12:30] <HappyFool> Manifold: amsn 0.94 is in the breezy repositories
[12:30] <thegladiator> but in nautilus , i cant figure out
[12:30] <_rYe_> happyfool: no such package
[12:30] <_rYe_> pls help
[12:30] <_rYe_> tnx
[12:30] <thegladiator> i hope its nothing simple that i didnt figure out
[12:31] <Hobbsee> !tell _rYe_ about info amsn
[12:31] <HappyFool> _rYe_: you probably need to setup repositories
[12:31] <Manifold> Yeah, but HappyFool, 0.95 is out now.
[12:31] <Kindred> thegladiator: there are options in the nautilus settings - previews
[12:31] <kremonte> is there any way to nest permissions? i want to set 800 files to 777
[12:31] <kremonte> and ctrl+a isn't cutting it :-)
[12:31] <Kindred> thegladiator: but I don't think you can set that individually
[12:31] <Madpilot> thegladiator: have a look in Applications -> System Tools -> Configuration Editor - some of Nautilus's options hide there too...
[12:31] <thegladiator> Kindred, i have been there . but nothing says pdf as such
[12:32] <thegladiator> i wanted to set it individually
[12:32] <Madpilot> kremonte: open a terminal and do it there
[12:32] <thegladiator> lemme try that Madpilot
[12:32] <Manifold> amsn-0.95.x86.package should I download that?
[12:32] <Seveas> Happy 2006 everyone :)
[12:32] <Manifold> Or a deb one?
[12:32] <Madpilot> kremonte: with "chmod" - try "man chmod" in a terminal to learn more
[12:32] <Seveas> Manifold, neither
[12:32] <Seveas> Manifold, apt-get install amsn
[12:32] <kremonte> Madpilot -  thanks
[12:32] <_rYe_> happyfool: how would i do that? umy problem is i need my broadcom wireless card to be detected... im trying to install the new ndiswrapper now
[12:32] <Manifold> That's the old one.
[12:32] <Seveas> Manifold, so?
[12:33] <Xaios> Ok here is the problem, Windows wont boot because the Norton Ghost partition is selected as the boot partition how can I change this? gedit doesnt seem to work and Im not sure of the command for fdisk
[12:33] <HappyFool> _rYe_: is your computer connected to the internet at all?
[12:33] <Seveas> Xaios, you probably need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:33] <thegladiator> Madpilot, i tried out in config editor . but even there i cant see something specific to pdf
[12:33] <Madpilot> kremonte: chmod has a recursive function (-R) that will work on subdirectories & everything else in the directory you aim it at
[12:33] <Xaios> Sorry Seveas no grub here, this is a windows box :(
[12:34] <thegladiator> Kindred, suer no seperate stuff for pdf ?
[12:34] <Seveas> Xaios, then why are you lloking for help in here?!?
[12:34] <Xaios> Because Im using LInux to recover! :)
[12:34] <Madpilot> thegladiator: I've got no idea, I haven't had a problem with how Naut. shows PDF files...
[12:34] <_rYe_> Happyfool: its connected via lan... wired is working but i need my wifi to work. what would i do? im a newbie in ubuntu
[12:34] <Seveas> *sigh*
[12:34] <Xaios> and I am unfamiliar with linux tools :), sorry :(
[12:34] <Seveas> try #windows, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[12:34] <kremonte> chmod -R worked, thanks again
[12:34] <neuro|laptop> happy mailman day!
[12:34] <Xaios> Ok sorry about that
[12:35] <thegladiator> fine Madpilot
[12:35] <Kindred> thegladiator, sorry don't think so.. nautilus isn't heavily configurable
[12:35] <HappyFool> _rYe_: i'm not very familiar with wireless, but you should setup network repositories to allow to install software (like dh-make, etc.)
[12:35] <HappyFool> !tell _rYe_ about repos
[12:35] <_rYe_> happyfool: i tried using the ndiswrapper 1.1 that came with the installation, and installed the necessary drivers... driver is present and device is present but i dont see the wlan config in networking
[12:36] <Manifold> Suppose I wanted to manually install a program.
[12:36] <thegladiator> Kindred, yeah . konqueror is better
[12:36] <Seveas> _rYe_, did you 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[12:36] <Manifold> What type should I look for?
[12:36] <HappyFool> _rYe_: i can't help you much with configuring wireless, sorry
[12:36] <Seveas> _rYe_, and did you do 'sudo ndiswrapper -m' even before that?
[12:36] <Manifold> .deb, .rpm?
[12:36] <Seveas> Manifold, .deb
[12:36] <bimberi> Manifold: .deb
[12:36] <Seveas> !deb
[12:36] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:36] <Manifold> Right.
[12:36] <Manifold> Thanks.
[12:37] <thegladiator> !firefox
[12:37] <ubotu> firefox is probably a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation.
[12:37] <_rYe_> Sevead: yep, i've done that. but still, wlan doesnt appear in the networking?
[12:37] <_rYe_> Sevead: yep, i've done that. but still, wlan doesnt appear in networking
[12:38] <Seveas> !firefox =~ s/n./n. For firefox 1.5, look at !firefox1.5/
[12:38] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[12:39] <thegladiator> !firefox1.5/
[12:39] <ubotu> thegladiator: What?
[12:39] <thegladiator> !firefox
[12:39] <ubotu> firefox is, like, totally, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation. For firefox 1.5, look at !firefox1.5
[12:39] <thegladiator> !firefox1.5
[12:39] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:40] <_rYe_> Seveas: can i use the ndiswrapper that is present in the synaptic manager... the version 1.1?
[12:40] <Manifold> !zinf
[12:40] <ubotu> Manifold: I give up, what is it?
[12:40] <Manifold> ^^
[12:41] <Manifold> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amsn:
[12:41] <Manifold>  amsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:
[12:41] <Manifold>   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.
[12:41] <KarlosII> ff rulz
[12:41] <Manifold> Now, where do I get version 4.0.1-9 from?
[12:41] <KarlosII> just dun use the debian build
[12:41] <Madpilot> Manifold: ubotu is a bot, you know?
[12:41] <Madpilot> !ubout
[12:41] <ubotu> Not a clue, Madpilot
[12:41] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[12:41] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:42] <Seveas> _rYe_, yes
[12:42] <thegladiator> is the popularity of ubuntu on the decline ?
[12:42] <Seveas> Manifold, you don't. THIS is why you use packages from the repository
[12:42] <cosco> ubotu tell cosco about cedega
[12:42] <Seveas> and not random packages from somewhere
[12:42] <Seveas> thegladiator, ?
[12:43] <thegladiator> there arent much new comes to the channel here
[12:43] <thegladiator> i was expecting like a increase in total number of ppl in the channel
[12:43] <thegladiator> like when i came in a month back it was touching 650
[12:43] <Manifold> It's not random, from the main site.
[12:43] <thegladiator> now it as consistently come down to 570's
[12:43] <Seveas> hehem it's newyears :)
[12:44] <Madpilot> thegladiator: Xmas/New Years, remember? :P
[12:44] <Seveas> yesterday there were ~600 people
[12:44] <bLaD3`ni> happy new year..
[12:44] <Seveas> 2 months ago it was 450
[12:44] <Seveas> O
[12:44] <thegladiator> yeah xmas newyear has some impact
[12:44] <Seveas> I'd say it's increasing rapidly :)
[12:44] <Seveas> A year ago it was less than hundred
[12:44] <thegladiator> gentoo touches close to 800 evryday
[12:45] <Seveas> We've had days with 700+
[12:45] <HappyFool> oh no! we're losing! call out the ninjas to defeat gentoo!
[12:45] <Manifold> Our time will come..
[12:45] <concept10> im pissed but happy new years!
[12:45] <thegladiator> wow
[12:45] <Seveas> HappyFool, emerge --unmerge gentoo
[12:45] <Seveas> :p
[12:45] <Seveas> concept10, happy new years and try to find a toilet next time ;)
[12:45] <Stew_Lappy> you could say gentoo has more people cos people need more help with it
[12:45] <thegladiator> happ new year
[12:45] <Stew_Lappy> so more people isn't a good thing maybe
[12:46] <concept10> Seveas, :)
[12:46] <Seveas> Stew_Lappy, lol :)
[12:46] <thegladiator> Stew_Lappy, yeah its a strongpoint
[12:46] <Xaios> Ok, w00t back to Ubuntu I know my solution lies within deleteing the virtual partition, the problem is GParted does not see any partition at all on the drive (!! yet fdisk does) is there a guide for fdisk to delting partitions?
[12:47] <thegladiator> ubuntu needs less help atlease you have ubotu
[12:47] <thegladiator> !botsnack
[12:47] <ubotu> :)
[12:47] <Seveas> Xaios, try cfdisk
[12:47] <HappyFool> or try 'm' for help ;) like the prompt says
[12:47] <Xaios> I thought it was --help?
[12:47] <thegladiator> are there spywares in ubuntu systems ?
[12:48] <Seveas> thegladiator, yes
[12:48] <HappyFool> ssssh, don' tell!
[12:48] <thegladiator> Seveas, how can i get rid of them ?
[12:48] <quacker> Stay  tuned BoyzNgrrls, for this episode of Distro Wars(tm) -- II Attack of the Debian Clones
[12:48] <Seveas> if you install acrobat reader from adobe itself it contains something that can be classified as spyware (long live closed source crap - NOT)
[12:48] <thegladiator> i guess it is browser based spywares
[12:48] <Manifold> Can you teach Software updates to ignore some updates?
[12:49] <thegladiator> i have adobe in this system
[12:49] <mommer> hi there. I'm having a problem with the displays. export DISPLAY=localhost:0 ; xload doesn't work. Yes, I have done xhost + already. Any ideas?
[12:50] <Madpilot> good night, all - Happy New Year!
[12:51] <Manifold> Does Kopete work with Gnome?
[12:51] <Tomcat_> Sure, why not? :)
[12:51] <Xaios> ouch cfdisk /dev/sda1 = FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive, You know what it needs to be unmounted doesnt it?
[12:51] <Manifold> It says it's a KDE Messenger.
[12:51] <Manifold> Heh..
[12:52] <thegladiator> Manifold, you might need kde library for that
[12:52] <Tomcat_> Manifold: Yes, which means you'll have to install a load of KDE libraries, but the desktop managers still run all programs of either one. :)
[12:52] <brenner> Manifold: kde apps can be used in gnome.  and vice versa
[12:52] <mommer> so, if i su to root, how can I run an X app?
[12:52] <ruaraidh> happy gnu year, everyone :D
[12:53] <Manifold> It doesn't look that good anyway.
[12:53] <Manifold> :] 
[12:53] <ruaraidh> I've got a little problem with my dvd drive, any help _seriously_ appreciated
[12:53] <BullFire> hello
[12:53] <ruaraidh> Ubuntu will read cds fine
[12:54] <ruaraidh> but not dvds
[12:54] <ruaraidh> I know it's ubuntu which has the problem because I can still boot from dvd
[12:54] <BullFire> I have som problem with autoloading my network card driver
[12:54] <Viper1234> are you referring to commercial dvd video ruaraidh ?
[12:55] <mommer> network-admin is saying that my root password is wrong. But it is not! what might be wrong?
[12:55] <Manifold> Your memory. :D
[12:55] <ruaraidh> no, reading any dvd, data or video Viper 1234
[12:55] <ruaraidh> I tried sticking an entry in fstab to /dev/dvd (which I think is just a symlink to /dev/scd0 anyway)
[12:56] <ruaraidh> but I'm a total n00b so it didn't work :P
[12:56] <mommer> Manifold, no way. I've double / triple checked. If i type it at the console it works.
[12:56] <HappyFool> mommer: i think admin stuff run from ubuntu gnome menus use sudo, not su
[12:57] <mommer> oh, so I need my password? duh
[12:57] <vega-> mommer: you need to type your user password, NOT the root password
[12:57] <BullFire> when I'm using #modprobe ipg it works fine but when I type ipg in /etc/modules it does'nt work?
[12:57] <ruaraidh> I tried manually mounting /dev/dvd at /media/cdrom0 and /media/dvd
[12:57] <mommer> ok thx :o)
[12:57] <ruaraidh> but that just hung
[12:57] <Manifold> 'Add Applications' is a bit bugged.
[12:57] <ruaraidh> any ideas?
[12:57] <HappyFool> ruaraidh: take a look at dmesg for error messages
[12:57] <Manifold> Sometimes, it hangs after installing programs.
[12:57] <HappyFool> ruaraidh: either 'dmesg|tail' or 'less /var/log/dmesg'
[12:57] <ruaraidh> good idea, brb
[12:59] <BullFire> anyone?
[01:00] <ruaraidh> hmm... "[4297608.760000]  ata2: PIO error, drv_stat 0xd0
[01:00] <ruaraidh> "
[01:01] <ruaraidh> Like I said, newbie here, but that looks relevant?
[01:04] <ruaraidh> I googled around a bit, got an unanswered thread on the ubuntu forums, which is similar but different enough not to be really relevant
[01:05] <Raj> hello all
[01:06] <thegladiator> jai hind raj
[01:06] <Raj> a very happy new year to all of you
[01:06] <Raj> jai hind gladiator
[01:06] <thegladiator> same to you
[01:06] <bladedge> damit
[01:06] <bladedge> i cant mount my ntfs part again
[01:06] <Raj> ? @ blade
[01:06] <bladedge> any help plz
[01:06] <ruaraidh> I suppose I can just get a usb dvd drive on the cheap in the january sales...
[01:06] <HappyFool> ruaraidh: try googling for your mainboard and dvd drive (and linux); maybe it's a known problem. this is outside my knowledge
[01:06] <bladedge> well i cant mount a ntfs partition damit
[01:06] <thegladiator> where are you fro Raj
[01:06] <Raj> Bangalore
[01:06] <thegladiator> cool
[01:06] <ruaraidh> Thanks anyway :o)
[01:07] <Raj> and u gladiator?
[01:07] <thegladiator> Cochin
[01:07] <Raj> Cochin is my native
[01:07] <Raj> my parents are from there
[01:07] <thegladiator> really ?
[01:07] <Raj> yes
[01:08] <thegladiator> raj > have you registered at freenode server ?
[01:08] <thegladiator> if yes , we have chat in private
[01:08] <HappyFool> bladedge: how are you trying to do the mount?
[01:08] <thegladiator> could
[01:08] <thegladiator> whats the mount command bladedge  ?
[01:08] <Raj> nope
[01:08] <bladedge> ./mount n all that
[01:08] <bladedge> i dunno
[01:09] <Raj> gladiator how to I register in the free node server
[01:09] <bladedge> can ya get me the command plz?
[01:09] <thegladiator> simple .
[01:09] <thegladiator> wait a sec
[01:09] <bladedge> like i cant remember the good command
[01:09] <bladedge> i did it yesturday
[01:09] <bladedge> damitr
[01:09] <HappyFool> !tell bladedge about windowsdrives
[01:10] <bladedge> thnx dood
[01:10] <thegladiator> "/msg nickserv REGISTER <password>"
[01:10] <thegladiator> raj that shud do it
[01:11] <thegladiator> jus check out and mayb it might ask for email in the command as well . in that case nickserv will give you the appropriate error.
[01:11] <Raj> thx
[01:12] <thegladiator> freenode doesnt permit non identified users to communicate with each other
[01:12] <HappyFool> like you're doing now ?
[01:12] <thegladiator> nope
[01:12] <HappyFool> ;)
[01:12] <thegladiator> direct comm.
[01:12] <HappyFool> you can always create your own channel
[01:12] <thegladiator> Happy what ? ...oh kk :p
[01:13] <chema> Happy new year, where is the unestable repositories of Debian. I nedd to add to my sources.list
[01:13] <chema> ?
[01:13] <HappyFool> adding debian unstable to an ubuntu repo list is probably a bad idea
[01:14] <thegladiator> raj : please check the pbt message i send u
[01:15] <chema> Only for a few programs, please, anyelse can say me where is the repository?
[01:16] <thegladiator> hi sexcopter8000m , i have always fancied ur nick
[01:16] <Viper1234> um....i thought linux was 'open'.  if the guy just needs an address to the DEBIAN stuff......why not just get it to him?  If he knows ENOUGH to ask about it, he's probably not a noob. sheesh what is this, the MS ubuntu forums?
[01:16] <brenner> chema: what do you need?  like HappyFool says, you risk breakage
[01:17] <santanu_> how do I play a binary image of a VCD using totem(gstreamer/xine)? mplayer plays it fine.
[01:17] <kent> is there a deb package for gaim 2.0 beta for ubuntu somewhere?
[01:17] <brenner> Viper1234: ubuntu is not debian.
[01:17] <santanu_> sorry for repeating the question. I got disconnected.
[01:18] <Seveas> chema, anything that's in debian is in Ubuntu
[01:18] <Tomcat_> Viper1234: He can do whatever he wants, but we should warn him before breaking stuff because he'll come here and we have to fix his system then. ;)
[01:18] <Viper1234> oh that wasn't the point and you know it brenner.  I keep seeing stuff in here that has kinda' warmed me under the collar lately.
[01:18] <Seveas> do NOT use debian repositories - it WILL break your system
[01:19] <chema> It's my responsability
[01:19] <Seveas> Viper1234, if you don't like it in here you are free to leave - we do our best to help people in the way that is supported by Ubuntu
[01:19] <brenner> Viper1234: it's a valid one nonetheless
[01:19] <Seveas> chema, correct your responsibility, but we don't help breaking systems.
[01:20] <Viper1234> you mean like how 'auto' is ripped here, but NOT in the official forums?  bah. later.
[01:21] <chema> Ok, Seveas the programs that I try to install no break the system because other friends install this in a Ubuntu and don't break anything
[01:22] <chema> Some repository safe for us, with mplayer, please?
[01:22] <Seveas> mplayer is in multiverse
[01:22] <Seveas> !tell chema about repos
[01:22] <nalioth> Seveas: trolls already this year? they're starting early
[01:22] <Seveas> :)
[01:22] <HappyFool> and, iirc, it's called mplayer-386, mplayer-686 etc etc
[01:23] <brenner> nalioth: actually, i think i triggered his outburst :P
[01:23] <ajmitch> nalioth: we prefer to call them 'passionate users' ;)
[01:24] <yatesy> i don't think he was a troll, but i guess the friendlyness of the channel was overwealming ;)
[01:24] <cello_rasp> how do i manage my gnome keyrings?
[01:24] <nalioth> ajmitch: passion? in a linux user?
[01:24] <ajmitch> nalioth: it does happen
[01:25] <mebsd> can i install ubuntu without gnome
[01:25] <Seveas> sure
[01:25] <Seveas> do a server install
[01:25] <Seveas> and it doesn't install a GUI at all
[01:25] <mebsd> not server, i want work station without gnome
[01:25] <HappyFool> no gooey goodness *sniffle*
[01:25] <mebsd> just kde
[01:25] <lucasvo> mebsd: if you wan't kde, you can install kubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <Seveas> mebsd, then grab a kubuntu iso
[01:26] <mebsd> i alreaey grabbed and burnt ubuntu iso
[01:26] <lucasvo> mebsd: or do a server install, enable main repos, install xubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <Seveas> mebsd, do what lucasvo said, but install kubuntu-desktop if you want KDE
[01:26] <mebsd> with this iso?
[01:26] <Seveas> yes
[01:26] <lucasvo> mebsd: ^^ xubuntu comes with xfce4, very fast
[01:26] <mebsd> i only like fluxbox and kde
[01:26] <chema> Thanks for all, bye and happy new year
[01:27] <bladedge> HappyFool, dude
[01:27] <bladedge> it doesnt work
[01:27] <bladedge> i screwed up
[01:27] <lucasvo> mebsd: first do a server install, then you have to enable the main repository
[01:27] <bladedge> dont ya have a simple command?
[01:27] <bladedge> like pilgrim gave me one yesturday
[01:27] <bladedge> but i cant remember it
[01:27] <spacey> bladedge, what is the problem?
[01:27] <lucasvo> mebsd: then you can install kubuntu-desktop, and if you want fluxbox as well
[01:27] <bladedge> i wanna mount a ntfs partition
[01:28] <spacey> bladedge, permanently or just for one time?
[01:28] <Seveas> !ntfs
[01:28] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:28] <spacey> its pretty well described in the wiki
[01:28] <bladedge> well i dunno it doesnt matter i'll format my hdd after
[01:28] <bladedge> yeah but i screwed up
[01:28] <ajmitch> spacey: afternoon :)
[01:29] <spacey> hi ajmitch :)
[01:29] <spacey> happy new year
[01:29] <spacey> bladedge, what did you screw up?
[01:29] <bladedge> pilgrim gave me a script yesturday but i forgot it
[01:29] <bladedge> i dont really know
[01:29] <spacey> what script?
[01:29] <spacey> you don't need a script to mount an ntfs partition
[01:29] <bladedge> i dunno
[01:29] <spacey> its just one command
[01:29] <bladedge> well yeh a command sry
[01:29] <bladedge> it was a command
[01:30] <spacey> bladedge, write it down next time
[01:30] <bladedge> like ./mount drive n stuff
[01:30] <bladedge> yeah i know
[01:30] <spacey> probably something like mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[01:30] <bladedge> yeah lol thnx
[01:30] <spacey> replace device etc. if needed
[01:31] <bladedge> dang
[01:31] <bladedge> it doesnt find the -t command
[01:31] <mwe> t command?
[01:31] <spacey> -t is a parameter to mount
[01:31] <bladedge> yeah
[01:31] <CptS> hi, i have an isa sound card which ubuntu doesn't recognize, can someone help me set it up or refer me to a link?
[01:31] <bladedge> brb, imma reboot, as i am on the live cd
[01:31] <bladedge> it will all clear up
[01:32] <mwe> spacey: you're supposed to type 'mount -t ntff /dev/hda1 /media/windows'
[01:32] <mwe> spacey: ntfs*
[01:32] <hyakuhei> ff?
[01:32] <hyakuhei> heh
[01:32] <Seveas> NT F*ed Filesystem ;)
[01:32] <HappyFool> as in, why ntffs ?
[01:33] <mwe> Seveas: gg
[01:33] <thomas> how to make make-3.80 without make?
[01:33] <Seveas> apt-get install make
[01:33] <Seveas> !info make
[01:33] <ubotu> make: (The GNU version of the "make" utility.), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.80-9 (breezy), Packaged size: 419 kB, Installed size: 1076 kB
[01:34] <thomas> !info make: event not found
[01:34] <Seveas> no, look at what ubotu said :)
[01:34] <CptS> anyone? help on isa soundcard setting up (Vibra16) ?
[01:34] <HappyFool> thomas: why do you want to make make?
[01:35] <hyakuhei> !glade
[01:35] <ubotu> hyakuhei: I don't know
[01:35] <hyakuhei> ubotu: chocolate teapot
[01:35] <ubotu> hyakuhei: I give up, what is it?
[01:35] <HappyFool> heh. "how do you make make make make?"
[01:35] <Seveas> HappyFool, :|
[01:36] <mwe> HappyFool: type make in the make dir of the version of make you wanna mak
[01:38] <sexcopter8000m> thegladiator, hehe, thanks
[01:38] <thegladiator> :)
[01:41] <bladedge> oki backs
[01:42] <bladedge> oki so whats the command again plz?
[01:42] <mwe> how do you make make make make and not make make make make errors?
[01:42] <bladedge> talkin bout me ?
[01:43] <bladedge> guys
 probably something like mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[01:43] <ajmitch> mwe: getting a bit offtopic now :)
[01:44] <bladedge> something like that yes
[01:44] <bladedge> it had like something more at the end
[01:44] <werty> anyone plz help me out with my pen pad
[01:45] <thomas> i don't get it. i'm new to linux. what's the ordinal way in linux to get to software like the new version of grub? and how to install it???
[01:45] <tristan> thomas : to use Synaptic is the best way when you're new to linux
[01:46] <CptS> Please, can anyone help me configure the soundcard??
[01:46] <Matis> HI EVERYBODY I GOT 2 DAYS USING LINUX, I AM NW =), I AM READING SOME TEXT, AND I WANTED TO KNOW, IF ANYBODY COULD TELL ME WHERE TO DOWNLOAD SOME EXERCICES, BUT EXERCICES FOR NWS =D, COULD SOMEONE HELP ME?
[01:46] <HappyFool> ow my eyes!
[01:46] <cello_rasp> damn.
[01:46] <nalioth> Matis: check your caps lock
[01:46] <HappyFool> bladedge: well, that's all spacey said
[01:46] <bladedge> zell thnx
[01:46] <nalioth> Matis: and make sure it is off
[01:47] <werty> anyone help me out with my pen pad.. i have bought it 3 months and havent used it since then in linux
[01:47] <cello_rasp> i have a bunch of invalid network places under network:/// but i cant remove them... help!
[01:47] <HappyFool> bladedge: if you like, you can put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' and 'mount' on the pastebin (do *not* paste here)
[01:47] <bladedge> lol yeh oki
[01:47] <HappyFool> bladedge: then i can probably tell you the exact command
[01:48] <werty> noone??
[01:49] <murr> i have GDM and KDM installed. how can i choose which one is used?
[01:49] <bladedge> well yeah go ahead plz if ya got the time
[01:49] <apokryphos> murr: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:49] <HappyFool> bladedge: it's on the pastebin?
[01:49] <bladedge> like i wanna mount the hda3
[01:49] <bladedge> terminal
[01:49] <CptS> so much for community support here. :( i guess i'll try another distro.
[01:49] <murr> apokryphos: thank you :)
[01:50] <HappyFool> CptS: if we lack knowledge, we cannot help. i have no idea how to configure an ISA sound card
[01:50] <bladedge> im on the term
[01:50] <HappyFool> bladedge: can you cut-and-paste the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[01:51] <bladedge> oki 10 secs gonna see if it works
[01:51] <mebsd> how to edit grub so it boots initrd and then vilinuz of ubuntu
[01:51] <werty> hi there can anyone help me with my pen pad..
[01:51] <bladedge> oki
[01:51] <bladedge> it says it doesnt exist
[01:51] <HappyFool> mebsd: the file to edit is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:52] <HappyFool> bladedge: what doesn't exist?
[01:52] <bladedge> the mount point
[01:52] <bladedge> do i create the file?
[01:52] <mebsd> HappyFool: i know but what entry should i put for initrd
[01:52] <mwe> bladedge: then you have to make the mount point
[01:52] <HappyFool> mebsd: just a sec
[01:52] <mwe> bladedge: right
[01:52] <bladedge> oki
[01:52] <chema> there are some fork the mplayer with gtk2?
[01:53] <mwe> bladedge: it's supposed to be a directory
[01:53] <bladedge> done
[01:53] <bladedge> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[01:53] <bladedge>        missing codepage or other error
[01:53] <bladedge>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:53] <bladedge>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:53] <bladedge> this stinks
[01:53] <mwe> bladedge: what did you type, exactly?
[01:54] <mwe> bladedge: btw. people get pissed if you paste in here
[01:54] <Hellsashes>  bladedge: you're trying to mount hda3?
[01:54] <bladedge> yes
[01:54] <bladedge> oh damit
[01:54] <Hellsashes> well, from what I see there its hda1
[01:54] <bladedge> i put the hda1 lol
[01:54] <bladedge> sry
[01:54] <bladedge> brb
[01:54] <Hellsashes> hehehe ;) no problem
[01:54] <HappyFool> mebsd: for starters, the grub manual is here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[01:55] <HappyFool> mebsd: i'm going to put some entries from my menu.lst on the pastebin, just a second
[01:55] <bladedge> damit
[01:55] <nalioth> bladedge: please use a pastebin. pasting in irc channels is rude
[01:55] <bladedge> noz i dont have the permisson should i rewrite the permissions in the g file?
[01:55] <bladedge> now*
[01:56] <bladedge> well im not gonna paste
[01:56] <HappyFool> mebsd: take a look here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6443
[01:56] <HappyFool> mebsd: hacking grub's menu.lst should not usually be necessary
[01:58] <mebsd> HappyFool: thanks alot
[01:58] <mebsd> HappyFool: i didn't install grub booter so im adding it now
[01:59] <bladedge> dang
[01:59] <bladedge> i cant read it
[01:59] <bladedge> no pemissions
[01:59] <CountGentoo> will setting noexec on /var break Linux?
[02:00] <TTilus> is it possible to tell apt(itude) only include certain packages from a (bigger) repo?
[02:01] <bladedge> how do i edit pemissions plz
[02:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell TTilus about pinning
[02:01] <mebsd> chmod
[02:01] <nurfe> bah getting enlightenment was a pain in the ass :/
[02:01] <TTilus> nalioth: mm, that thing was called pinning  :)
[02:01] <TTilus> nalioth: thanks!
[02:02] <TTilus> bladedge: chown, chmod, chgrp?
[02:02] <bladedge> oki ty
[02:02] <bladedge> n what do i add ?
[02:02] <nalioth> bladedge: be very careful what you chmod, you can ruin your box with one press of the <enter> key
[02:03] <bladedge> i mean for it to edit the permissions on a specific drive
[02:03] <bladedge> yeah i know but my box is currently running on the live cd
[02:03] <HappyFool> mebsd: what I sent you is not ideal. the 'correct' menu.lst has extra stuff for easy kernel updates
[02:04] <bladedge> ??
[02:05] <mebsd> HappyFool: at least it boots ubuntu now
[02:06] <mebsd> hmm i have no /boot/grub/
[02:06] <HappyFool> i think /boot/menu.lst might work too
[02:07] <HappyFool> read the manual ;)
[02:07] <GTroy> anyone know of an avi joiner app?
[02:07] <GTroy> rar keeps putting out multiple avi
[02:07] <mebsd> i don't have man command
[02:08] <mebsd> wait, i have it
[02:08] <yatesy> mebsd: you've seriously screwed your system if you don't :)
[02:08] <HappyFool> mebsd: i gave you a url earlier
[02:09] <mebsd> it's now installing packages
[02:09] <mebsd> i think im doing fine , i hope
[02:09] <mebsd> already taken 2.0G
[02:10] <mebsd> i don't know what's taking 2G in this default installation
[02:10] <vega-> anyone know of a gqview-like app for kde?
[02:10] <mebsd> vega-: konqueror
[02:11] <mebsd> wait, aren't you supposed be using gnome
[02:11] <mahangu> how can i see the size of a dir?
[02:11] <mebsd> du
[02:11] <brenner> mebsd: nice to see another gqview fan
[02:11] <mahangu> of all the files in the dir?
[02:11] <JDahl> mahangu, du -h <dir>
[02:12] <mebsd> du -ch <dir>
[02:13] <RabidSnail> when I try sudo apt-get install buld-essential I get The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:13] <RabidSnail>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[02:13] <RabidSnail>                             libc-dev
[02:13] <RabidSnail>                    Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed
[02:13] <RabidSnail> E: Broken packages
[02:13] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: do not paste in here.
[02:13] <mebsd> ok, how to install baghira
[02:13] <RabidSnail> sorry
[02:13] <mebsd> for gnome
[02:14] <cello_rasp> are there any good cbr readers for ubuntu?
[02:14] <mebsd> how to list all packages i have installed
[02:14] <apokryphos> dpkg -l
[02:14] <bladedge> dang
[02:14] <RabidSnail> has anybody had a problem installing build-essential
[02:14] <RabidSnail> ?
[02:15] <mebsd> how to install fluxbox
[02:15] <brenner> vega-: you do know that you can use gtk apps in kde right?
[02:15] <bladedge> guys like i need to mount the partitions to backup everything i have
[02:15] <mebsd> apt-get?
[02:15] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: track down the root of the problem. Individually try to install those, and see what's going wrong.
[02:15] <deFrysk> RabidSnail, mixed repos ?
[02:15] <bladedge> so i could try to get my comp back up
[02:15] <apokryphos> !tell mebsd about fluxbox
[02:15] <RabidSnail> I reverted back to the default sources.list
[02:15] <vega-> brenner: sure, just trying to find counterparts for a few gnome apps
[02:16] <deFrysk> RabidSnail, reverted back too late then
[02:16] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: heh, if you did that after you mucked up your package system it wouldn't help much
[02:16] <brenner> vega-: righto
[02:18] <bladedge> guys
[02:18] <RabidSnail> I had run easy breezy, which changed my sources.list
[02:18] <apokryphos> RabidSnail: easybreezy wouldn't muck up your package management system
[02:18] <mebsd> shoot
[02:18] <apokryphos> I'd think you'd done other things too
[02:18] <mebsd> what's the root password
[02:19] <apokryphos> !root
[02:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[02:19] <mebsd> with default installation
[02:19] <yatesy> whatever you set it too
[02:20] <mebsd> sudo passwd?
[02:20] <apokryphos> mebsd: why do you want to set a root pass?
[02:20] <mebsd> that's dumb
[02:20] <mebsd> i need to apt-get install , so i login as root?
[02:20] <apokryphos> mebsd: read the wiki entry
[02:20] <apokryphos> you use sudo, not su.
[02:20] <mebsd> why
[02:21] <apokryphos> because it's a superior model
[02:21] <mebsd> i need to type sudo before all commands?
[02:21] <apokryphos> (and it's the one Ubuntu adopted)
[02:21] <apokryphos> mebsd: yes, or go into a root shell with sudo -i
[02:22] <bladedge> guys
[02:22] <mebsd> i already gave a new password to root
[02:22] <bladedge> how do i got in root from the live cd ?
[02:22] <Syner> b
[02:22] <apokryphos> !tell bladedge about root
[02:23] <thegladiator> bladedge, simple do sudo su
[02:23] <bladedge> oki ill tyr
[02:23] <bladedge> tyr*
[02:23] <bladedge> ops
[02:23] <thegladiator> try*
[02:23] <apokryphos> thegladiator: the recommended method is sudo -i
[02:23] <apokryphos> no need to use su
[02:23] <thegladiator> sudo -i or sudo -s
[02:24] <thegladiator> chose any .
[02:24] <apokryphos> they're not the same thing
[02:24] <apokryphos> sudo -i sets up the environment more appropriately
[02:24] <thegladiator> apokryphos, i see
[02:24] <bladedge> yes but i wanna get the graphical interface to run on root
[02:24] <thegladiator> yes go with sudo -i then .
[02:24] <bladedge> oki ty
[02:24] <thegladiator> bladedge, hm thats not needed
[02:24] <johnny> everything is sudo
[02:24] <johnny> only in ubuntu
[02:25] <bladedge> i need that to access my ntfs partition
[02:25] <thegladiator> bladedge, most of the things can be done with sudo
[02:25] <bladedge> to backup my files
[02:25] <afief> How can i check what exact arch my CPU is? (386,586....etc)
[02:25] <apokryphos> bladedge: that's not advised, both by gnome and kde desktop environments. You should generally try to restrict root access to CLI, but if you *need* to use GUI with it, then use gksudo/kdesu
[02:25] <bladedge> yes indeed but im not really an expert in linux
[02:25] <thegladiator> gotcha . i did that for my fat parition uing sudo
[02:26] <vega-> apokryphos: sudo -i equals sudo su - ?
[02:26] <afief> bladedge: sudo nautilus
[02:26] <bladedge> oki ty
[02:26] <bladedge> it cant open the displat
[02:26] <bladedge> display*
[02:26] <apokryphos> vega-: no, because of other sudo conventions, it acts differently
[02:27] <bladedge> oki done
[02:27] <bladedge> ty
[02:27] <thegladiator> sudo -i = sudo -s ?
[02:27] <afief> is there a way to know what exact arch my CPU is?
[02:27] <apokryphos> thegladiator: no. man sudo
[02:27] <thegladiator> k
[02:28] <HappyFool> afief: tried 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' ?
[02:28] <afief> happyfool: nope, still a linux noob and trying to find my way:) will try now
[02:28] <johnny> what's the advantage of using initrd
[02:29] <afief> happyfool: cpu family 6 model 16. but what does that mean? do i have a 686 CPU?
[02:29] <HappyFool> afief: um
[02:30] <HappyFool> i don't know, sorry
[02:30] <apokryphos> afief: cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep name ...is?
[02:30] <sebas_> nasss
[02:31] <sebas_> una preguntita donde puedo conseguir el compilador cc ?
[02:31] <bladedge> dang
[02:31] <bladedge> lost the mounting command again
[02:31] <bladedge> this is gettin on my nerves
[02:31] <apokryphos> sebas_: Spanish?
[02:31] <afief> apokryphos: intel pentium M 1.6GHz
[02:31] <mahangu> is sending something to /dev/null the same as rm?
[02:32] <apokryphos> afief: then you want linux-686, yes.
[02:32] <bladedge> apokryphos, can ya plz resend the mounting command?
[02:32] <apokryphos> mahangu: yes
[02:32] <sebas_> ahhhhhh ok this canal is in ingles
[02:32] <afief> apokryphos: thank you. is there a way to get a 686 kernel readily built or do i have to compile my own?
[02:32] <apokryphos> bladedge: don't recall any mounting command
[02:32] <mahangu> whoa cat /dev/null is scary :o
[02:33] <bladedge> nope
[02:33] <apokryphos> afief: sure -- just install linux-686
[02:33] <carlzberg> #cebu
[02:33] <thegladiator> sebas_, ste es canal ingls
[02:33] <apokryphos> afief: complete Linux kernel
[02:33] <bladedge> i got one of the partitions mounted but not the other one
[02:33] <afief> apokryphos: apt-get install linux-686?
[02:33] <apokryphos> afief: yes, or use synaptic
[02:33] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:33] <sebas_> where I can unload compiler cc?
[02:33] <mahangu> apokryphos, is there a wiki page which describes compiling your own kernel?
[02:34] <apokryphos> sebas_: unload? Unninstall?
[02:34] <afief> apokryphos: thanks, i prefer command line. old fedora habbits
[02:34] <thegladiator> mahangu, does update offer the latest kernel ?
[02:34] <apokryphos> mahangu: yup
[02:34] <mahangu> thegladiator, mostly for kicks
[02:34] <thegladiator> or is it that nto wehat you want ?
[02:34] <thegladiator> cool
[02:34] <apokryphos> afief: Fedora is notoriously pretty GUI :P
[02:34] <thegladiator> just wondering
[02:34] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:34] <sebas_> where I can unload compiler cc?
[02:35] <mahangu> thegladiator, i should probably install breezy on my extra partition for itright
[02:35] <sebas_> where I can obtain compiler cc?
[02:35] <afief> apokryphos: i enjoied it:) but hell, rpms are hard to manage
[02:35] <mahangu> i might dist upgrade to dapper
[02:35] <mahangu> :o
[02:35] <mahangu> sebas_, you mean gcc?
[02:35] <apokryphos> mahangu: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KernelCompileHowto
[02:35] <bladedge> hehe got it thnx
[02:35] <bladedge> a lot
[02:35] <mahangu> apokryphos, gracias
[02:35] <mebsd> ubuntu froze
[02:35] <thegladiator> cc is rarely used i guess
[02:35] <thegladiator> gcc is the in thing these days
[02:35] <apokryphos> afief: Fedora does indeed have some nice things, but the repository system is lacking, both in size and often not up-to-date as quickly.
[02:35] <raphink> mebsd: heh its winter ;)
[02:35] <mahangu> oh another thing. i apt-getted kubuntu-desktop and now my bootsplash says kubuntu
[02:35] <mahangu> eck
[02:35] <apokryphos> sebas_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:36] <mahangu> how can i go back?
[02:36] <mebsd> whole ubuntu no response when i type glxgears
[02:36] <apokryphos> mahangu: remove the kubuntu-artwork-usplash or whatever it's called
[02:36] <mebsd> when i run glxgears
[02:36] <raphink> mahangu: with the choices
[02:36] <raphink> hmm
[02:36] <thegladiator> mahangu, is kubuntu splash bad ?
[02:36] <thegladiator> not as good as ubuntu ?
[02:36] <apokryphos> thegladiator: it's exactly the same, but blue and says kubuntu
[02:36] <mahangu> apokryphos, says it's not installed
[02:37] <thegladiator> ah
[02:37] <mahangu> thegladiator, im a gnome fanboy, sue me
[02:37] <thegladiator> moi too
[02:37] <mahangu> gnome++
[02:37] <bladedge> so now can i get all the stuff i need from the partitions using a windows machine ? if the mounted partitions have root-only access?
[02:37] <mahangu> KDE just gets in the way
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[02:37] <raphink> mahangu: sudo update-alternatives
[02:37] <thegladiator> :p
[02:37] <mahangu> apokryphos, the package is not installed
[02:37] <raphink> might let you set the usplash theme
[02:37] <raphink> imo
[02:37] <apokryphos> mahangu: hm, it really kubuntu-artwork-usplash (just checked). If it's not installed, you shouldn't be having the usplash there
[02:37] <bladedge> ??
[02:38] <mahangu> apokryphos, i see the package
[02:38] <afief> apokryphos: i object:) it never lacked the latest kernel. ubuntu is still using 2.6.10:P
[02:38] <mahangu> but it's not installed
[02:38] <mahangu> :o
[02:38] <thegladiator> bladedge, there is some command to make it open to all users
[02:38] <mebsd> how can i find the name for apps i want to run?
[02:38] <thegladiator> i am not sure
[02:38] <thegladiator> i did that though
[02:38] <raphink> mebsd: such as?
[02:38] <mahangu> is there a way i can manually set th ebootsplash?
[02:38] <apokryphos> afief: not if you upgrade to dapper, but there's consequences to running bleeding edge. I know for example that their KDE wasn't up-to-date nearly as quickly as Kubuntu's is, but they are indeed getting better, I see (from announcements)
[02:38] <mahangu> Package kubuntu-artwork-usplash is not installed, so not removed
[02:38] <raphink> mahangu: sudo update-alternatives I told you
[02:38] <ravv_> Not really an ubuntu question but: Where can i find other  unix channels  and specificall monowall-channels
[02:39] <mebsd> raphink: i want to install adesklets or gdesklets
[02:39] <apokryphos> really need to get into Kubuntu when on this channel :P
[02:39] <raphink> ravv_: if you /list channels on freenode, you'll find lots of unix related channels
[02:39] <mahangu> raphael, i have no idea how that works
[02:39] <mahangu> :o
[02:39] <mahangu> ill man it
[02:39] <afief> apokryphos: but dapper drake is hardly stable as far as i know
[02:40] <raphink> mahangu: you launch it, and it asks you quesions on alternatives in your system
[02:40] <raphink> mahangu: you can keep the default for all but the usplash, that you switch back to the ubuntu one if that's the one you want
[02:40] <bladedge> thegladiator, i dont know them unfortunatly
[02:40] <mahangu> raphink, it just gives me a list of flags
[02:40] <raphink> ah
[02:40] <apokryphos> afief: that is correct
[02:40] <raphink> wait a min
[02:41] <raphink> let's see
[02:41] <afief> apokryphos: then noobs like me don't have anything to do with it:( would have loved to try it though if i had another PC
[02:42] <bladedge> thegladiator, how could i make them accessible to all users and share em ?
[02:42] <raphink> mahangu: then try sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork
[02:42] <bladedge> on the lan?
[02:42] <raphink> grr
[02:42] <raphink> doesn't work
[02:42] <raphink> :s
[02:42] <jim> hi guys
[02:42] <raphink> mahangu: then try sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so
[02:42] <raphink> mahangu: that works  ^ ^
[02:43] <afief> apokryphos: so the repository freez has already taken place?
[02:43] <raphink> hi jim
[02:43] <mahangu> There is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so
[02:43] <mahangu> :s
[02:43] <apokryphos> afief: that's for kernel, note that other packages are updated and uploaded to breezy-backports/updates
[02:43] <mahangu> is there some way i can edit it and put my own image there?
[02:43] <bladedge> M
[02:43] <bladedge> ?**
[02:43] <raphink> mahangu: then that means you only have one usplash package so you should have the ubuntu splash
[02:44] <mahangu> wierd
[02:44] <mahangu> really really wierd
[02:44] <apokryphos> afief: nope; upstream version freeze is on the 19th
[02:44] <raphink> unless there's a pb with the kubuntu usplash package
[02:44] <raphink> mahangu: let me check the kubuntu usplash package
[02:44] <apokryphos> mahangu: try a restart; I'm pretty sure you won't get the kubu usplash
[02:44] <afief> weird, i've not got any updates for over two weeks. is that normal?
[02:44] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:44] <sebas_> THOUSAND THANKS
[02:44] <afief> apokryphos: weird, i've not got any updates for over two weeks. is that normal?
[02:44] <mahangu> apokryphos, i havent changed anything to try a restart :o
[02:44] <mahangu> but i will, after this video encodes
[02:44] <apokryphos> sebas_: np :)
[02:45] <apokryphos> afief: probably, actually. I mainly get KDE updates :D (we have another repo for that though)
[02:45] <jim> anyone have any idea how to get creative zen to work with breezy , I was able to get it to work on linspire and even had it picked up within lsongs its for a customer.
[02:45] <drageris> hi
[02:46] <mahangu> oh wierd
[02:46] <mahangu> i executed usplash
[02:46] <mahangu> from inside X
[02:46] <mahangu> and the top of my screen is all crummy
[02:46] <mahangu> i cant kill X as well
[02:46] <freshmint> does someone know a program, that cuts long mp3-mix files into single mp3-tracks according to the information from a cue file?
[02:46] <mahangu> a video of mine is encoding
[02:46] <raphink> lol
[02:46] <afief> apokryphos: gotta try kubuntu someday... probably in april
[02:46] <jim> streamripper will break long mp3's
[02:46] <jim> into individual mp3's
[02:47] <apokryphos> afief: sounds so long away ;-), 3.5 is out now!
[02:47] <mahangu> isn't there a .conf file or smething i can edit to set my own bootsplash?
[02:47] <mebsd> man this distro is for newbie!!
[02:47] <freshmint> jim, how? i got streamripper. does it handle cue files?
[02:47] <jim> available in synaptic
[02:47] <mahangu> afief, you can try it now - apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:47] <bladedge> guys like plz, i just need to know how i can make the mounted parts accessible to everyone and share it on the local windows network ... plw
[02:47] <jim> you may need a front end for it so go to freshmeat and look it up
[02:47] <bladedge> pls*
[02:48] <afief> mahangu: wouldn't that make problems with my Gnome desktop? i have no idea how to move from one to the other
[02:48] <mebsd> now, how can i upgrade firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5
[02:48] <mahangu> afief, nope it wouldn't, you can select a WM at login
[02:48] <mahangu> afief, i have KDE, GNOME and XFCE all on this box
[02:48] <mahangu> mebsd, you can compile your own program for now
[02:49] <jim> I have in last year set up about 30 people with ubuntu and prior to that they have never heard of linux
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, ff 1.5 will be in the dapper repos, once it is released
[02:49] <mebsd> i know i can compile my own everything
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, like i said, see above
[02:49] <bladedge> lol ya uninstall the old one and ya got fetch the 1.5
[02:49] <mebsd> so, no ff1.5 now?
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, no
[02:49] <mebsd> hmm
[02:49] <afief> mahangu: wow... will try it:) experiment date changed to next week instead of april
[02:49] <mahangu> does anybody know if some kind soul hsa compiled a .deb of ff 1.5?
[02:49] <mahangu> *HAS
[02:49] <deFrysk> mebsd, almost impossible to backport in a safe way
[02:49] <mebsd> why not.. ff 1.5 has been release long time ago
[02:49] <yatesy> install it yourself, its not hard
[02:49] <mebsd> i was using firefox 1.5 in netbsd
[02:49] <bladedge> so how do i get this thing available to everyone on the network?
[02:49] <mahangu> mebsd, it wasn't released when breezy shipped
[02:50] <afief> apokryphos: now i gotta see how my new 686 kernel operates. whish me luck
[02:50] <mebsd> so can i upgrade it now?
[02:50] <mahangu> afief, good luck
[02:50] <mebsd> through network?
[02:50] <mahangu> mebsd, like i said, no
[02:50] <mahangu> you can compile it
[02:50] <mebsd> how
[02:50] <mahangu> or look for a precompiled .deb
[02:50] <Knorrie> mebsd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29 ?
[02:50] <bladedge> dang ppl
[02:50] <jim> go to apt-get.org
[02:50] <bladedge> cant i just get any sharing help?
[02:50] <mahangu> jim, isn't that the debian repo?
[02:50] <jim> firefox1.5 search
[02:51] <jim> i found alot of ubuntu
[02:51] <mahangu> *search interface for the debian repo
[02:51] <jim> files in there
[02:51] <ltibor65> Where was Ubuntu made?
[02:51] <yatesy> mars
[02:51] <mebsd> made in china
[02:51] <RaethDragon> Hello
[02:51] <raphink> ltibor65: it grows in trees :)
[02:51] <sebas_> apokryphos
[02:51] <jim> and I have taken some debian files and they work fine on ubuntu breezy
[02:51] <mebsd> my system is up to date!
[02:52] <sebas_> apokryphos   When doing make appears to me this:  "sebas@sebas://home/sebas/Desktop/Manual seguridad/nmap-3.95$ make make:  *** is no rule to construct to the objective ` libpcap/Makefil, necessary for ` libpcap/libpcap..  Stop."  That I make bad?
[02:52] <raphink> jim: you shouldn't use debian packages as such, but rebuild them
[02:52] <RaethDragon> I have a problem
[02:52] <ltibor65> Not in England?
[02:52] <raphink> ltibor65: why so?
[02:52] <jim> I have a athlon box set up here next to this one and I rebuild some with mixed results
[02:52] <raphink> ltibor65: Ubuntu is a south-african distribution if that's what you mean
[02:52] <jim> I did get a great jahshaka setup going
[02:52] <ajmitch> raphink: hardly south african :)
[02:53] <cello_rasp> what is the default res for fonjts in gnome?
[02:53] <mebsd> how to get baghira
[02:53] <RaethDragon> Anyone know anything about USB external hard drives?
[02:53] <raphink> jim: are they packages missing in dapper?
[02:53] <mebsd> wait, that's for kde
[02:53] <freshmint> jim, i got streamripper now. how can i cut the mp3 file?
[02:53] <raphink> mebsd: install it ;)
[02:53] <mebsd> i want to install os x theme for gnome
[02:53] <ltibor65> Also it was made in South Africa?
[02:53] <raphink> mebsd: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[02:53] <mebsd> how to do that
[02:53] <cello_rasp> reath: they work end of story :)
[02:53] <kemik_> !javadebs
[02:53] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:53] <raphink> hi ajmitch
[02:53] <RaethDragon> That's the problem, mine spontaneous went read-only!
[02:53] <cello_rasp> 9_9 ubuntu is "made" all over the world
[02:53] <raphink> ltibor65: i'm not sure one can say it was _made somewhere_
[02:54] <mebsd> why don't they put ff 1.5 in apt-get install thing
[02:54] <RaethDragon> It was running through GNOME's HAL, as usual, and it just went RO one day
[02:54] <cello_rasp> the funding comes from an SA-based company aqnd the name is swahili.
[02:54] <raphink> ltibor65: devs are from all over the world
[02:54] <RaethDragon> And it won't go back, even when I reinstalled Ubuntu
[02:55] <jim> well i searched on forums and found a guy who managed to get it up and running so I followed but it still failed the problem was libaviformat  so I synaptic it and installed the dev file omn breezy and then failed with libfaac so I installed faac from on of the plf repos and it works great
[02:55] <mebsd> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[02:55] <mebsd> Password:
[02:55] <mebsd> Reading package lists... Done
[02:55] <mebsd> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:55] <mebsd> E: Couldn't find package fluxbox
[02:55] <raphink> mebsd: please don't paste here
[02:55] <zamuro> I'm kinda lost... what you guys try to do?
[02:56] <mebsd> sorry
[02:56] <mebsd> so, how can i install fluxbox?
[02:56] <cello_rasp> can someone do me a favour: go to system > preferences > font > details  and tell me the resolution please\
[02:56] <raphink> mebsd: firefox 1.5 is available on ubuntu, but not in breezy if i'm not wrong ;)
[02:56] <cello_rasp> dapper... hopefully
[02:56] <yatesy> cello_rasp: what? you want us to tell you what res we're all running?
[02:56] <zamuro> mebsd: U tried downloading the source?
[02:56] <raphink> mebsd: before installing packages, you can search for them, using apt-cache
[02:56] <mahangu> mebsd, apt-cache search fluxbox
[02:56] <raphink> mebsd: apt-cache search fluxbox
[02:56] <raphink> mahangu: ;)
[02:56] <jim> jahshaka is a video editing program kinda like lives or cinelerra but less intense on hardware requirements
[02:56] <cello_rasp> yates do you know the difference between the words 'someone' and 'everyone'?
[02:57] <ltibor65> I understand, raphink, but the first steps for its development where made in South Afrika? Also the origin is south african?
[02:57] <RaethDragon> 86, mebsd, if yah wanna know
[02:57] <mebsd> returns nothing
[02:57] <yatesy> !info fluxbox
[02:57] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[02:57] <mebsd> apt-cache search fluxbox
[02:57] <mahangu> mebsd, enable all your repos
[02:57] <yatesy> as you can see, its in universe, so go add that then try again
[02:57] <mebsd> how to enable all repos
[02:57] <raphink> ltibor65: I'd say the 90% first steps are Debian's, which is also a worldwide effort
[02:57] <cello_rasp> yatesy that is somewhat \correct
[02:57] <zamuro> mebsd: go to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:58] <ltibor65> The founder was Mark Shuttleworth?
[02:58] <jim> guys anyone know if either lsongs or lphoto are going to be in dapper ?
[02:58] <mahangu> !repos
[02:58] <raphink> ltibor65: yes
[02:58] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:58] <mahangu> mebsd ^^
[02:58] <raphink> jim: arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:58] <raphink> jim: if you want Linspire, you can buy it :p
[02:59] <brasko> Hi allQ!
[02:59] <raphink> hi brasko
[02:59] <brasko> I installed ubuntu last night pretty successfully, after some help from this channel.
[02:59] <RaethDragon> Anyone have an idea why GNOME suddenly set my USB drive to RO?
[02:59] <ltibor65> Also he was the first developer as Linus Thorvals for linux-kernel.
[02:59] <jim> i have it on disk I hate its slow speed ect ect but lphoto is great to make a vcd from pictures or albums and add music
[02:59] <mahangu> jim, jahshaka, is that for ubuntu? if so where can i get it?
[02:59] <brasko> I ended up using VNC between 2 machines. I ran the server on linux, and the client is windows with realvnc.
[03:00] <brasko> THe problem is, it's really slow. The windows take a while to draw.
[03:00] <windmill> hi all , the dvd playback on my laptop using totem is quite dark, is there anyway to adjust it?
[03:00] <brasko> Anyone optimnize there vnc server that comes with ubuntu before? so that it's faster?
[03:00] <jim> ive run ubuntu since the begining but some of my customers are not too saavy so linspire for them
[03:00] <mahangu> jim, jahshaka, where can i get that?
[03:00] <arcade> hmmm.. what kind of MSN client is 'the best' for linux?  and how do i get it for ubuntu? :)
[03:00] <jim> http://www.jahshaka.org/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,45/page,viewtopic/p,2899/#2899
[03:00] <mahangu> arcade, ubuntu
[03:01] <mahangu> arcade, gaim
[03:01] <raphink> ltibor65: pm
[03:01] <jim> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104186&highlight=jahshaka
[03:01] <thegladiator> windmill, did you check totem preferences ?
[03:01] <arcade> mahangu: Does it support registering to the MSN network and everything?  Never logged onto MSN in my life. :)
[03:01] <raphink> arcade: gaim for gnome, kopete for kde, amsn if you only want msn
[03:01] <jim> theres a link to the forum in ubuntu and also jahshaka
[03:02] <thegladiator> windmill, totem menu -> edit - preferneces - display
[03:02] <mebsd> dam there's no fluxbox in synpatic package manage
[03:02] <brasko> so, anyone know how to optimize the VPN server?
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: Just want a complete MSN client for linux .. if such a thing exists.
[03:02] <RaethDragon> I'll go and find a GNOME IRC then
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: I don't use any other instant messenging except IRC ..
[03:02] <raphink> arcade: nothing more than msn ?
[03:02] <yatesy> mebsd: enable universe..............
[03:02] <mebsd> do they remove fluxbox because they want everyone use gnome?
[03:02] <cvt|gnuyear> can anyone recommend a torrent client that puts them in one window?
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: Neh, don't need anything more in the client.
[03:02] <windmill> thegladiator, you're right ;) thanks. I'm a fool!
[03:02] <jim> but if you follow it the install will start but die add faac and libfaac and it will work
[03:02] <raphink> arcade: go for amsn imo
[03:02] <mahangu> cvt|gnuyear, azureus, even though i dont use it
[03:02] <arcade> raphink: Will do.  Thanks. :9
[03:02] <mebsd> yatesy: how to do that
[03:02] <mahangu> arcade, maybe amsn will be better for that
[03:02] <yatesy> read up ffs
[03:02] <thegladiator> mebsd, ubuntu is not forcing you to even us it
[03:02] <thegladiator> mebsd, ubuntu is not forcing you to even use it . its free
[03:03] <RaethDragon> Ubuntu has it, you just have to enable the repos
[03:03] <TimMagic> hey! i have a wifi question
[03:03] <arcade> raphink / mahangu : Thanks.  Installed. :)
[03:03] <raptoid> Seveas, mucks
[03:03] <afief> mahangu: 686 up and working:) am i supposed to notice any performance changes?
[03:03] <RaethDragon> You can't fit everything onto one CD
[03:03] <mahangu> afief, i have no idea
[03:03] <mahangu> brb guys
[03:03] <raphink> arcade: k
[03:03] <mahangu> reboot
[03:03] <yatesy> afief: not really noticible
[03:03] <thegladiator> mebsd,ubuntu is working to make every package available actually
[03:03] <TimMagic> i loaded my wifi card as per the wiki, but it dodnt work so i tried again with a different card
[03:03] <yatesy> ignore him, people have helped him. but hes ignoring the help
[03:03] <arcade> Wow .. those amsn-fonts sucked.. should I install a fonts-package too?
[03:03] <brasko> Is the default vnc viewer not configurable? The GUI doesn't give many options.
[03:04] <TimMagic> is there an easy way of undoing my ramblings so i can start again?
[03:04] <mebsd> sorry i don't know what the hell im doing
[03:04] <brasko> I'm sorry, the SERVER that comes with ubuntu does not seem configurable.
[03:04] <jim> I was able to customize rhythmbox a bit added 100 shoutcast stations to it and give it a osxlike skin
[03:04] <ltibor65> raphink, how can I register me on freenod?
[03:04] <afief> yatesy: still good to know that i can get specially crafted kernels so easily
[03:04] <brasko> I wonder if there is a way to "speed it up".
[03:04] <pkern> What client is advised to connect to peer-to-peer networks (as in KaZaA or Mule)?
[03:04] <yatesy> afief: :)
[03:05] <mebsd> brasko: what server
[03:05] <thegladiator> pkern, i use phex
[03:05] <raphink> ltibor65: check pm, I told you
[03:05] <thegladiator> pkern, and for torrents i use azureues , its high on memory though
[03:05] <brasko> I did System=>Preferences=>Remove Desktop
[03:05] <jim> use gtk-gnutella for p2p go to site and get the deb file and either install direct or rebuild on ubuntu box it works great either way
[03:05] <brasko> however, when I connect to it on the same LAN, it's so slow
[03:05] <brasko> the window take several seconds to draw
[03:06] <brasko> I've used x11vncserver before, and this didn't happen
[03:06] <pkern> thegladiator: Azureus is a memory hog, that's right. What's phex? Is it graphical? Is it in Ubuntu (I didn't find it).
[03:06] <thegladiator> jim, is it a nice client ? better than phx in your opinion ?
[03:06] <cello_rasp> i need to know the default screen res for gnome... any help?
[03:06] <mebsd> fluxbox 0.9.12?
[03:06] <mebsd> not 0.9.14
[03:06] <jim> i use it all the time for uploading files got a somewhat hacking gui but it works fine
[03:06] <pkern> jim: gtk-gnutella is in Ubuntu as far as I could see?
[03:06] <ltibor65> What is pm, raphink?
[03:07] <thegladiator> pkern, mayb you shud try what jim said . phex is java based client . u need sun's jaav for that . graphicals yes . pretty nice
[03:07] <raphink> ltibor65: personal message
[03:07] <jim> yes but the version there will not connect to any servers now it is old so get newer version
[03:07] <raphink> or private message
[03:07] <raphink> not sure ;)
[03:07] <raphink> that's the same anyway
[03:07] <cello_rasp> hah
[03:07] <thegladiator> pkern, just google and i and i am sure you can get phex .  you need suns java first though
[03:07] <yatesy> private message
[03:07] <raphink> lol
[03:07] <brasko> I mean, it's just to slow
[03:07] <brasko> it's unusable
[03:07] <cello_rasp> az is jave so no diff
[03:07] <jim> if you use automatix for ubuntu it will give you sun java 1.5
[03:08] <pkern> thegladiator: At least the screenshots section on phex' site is broken ;)
[03:08] <raphink> except it's not recommended to use automatix
[03:08] <raphink> at all
[03:08] <mebsd> it's out of date.. fluxbox
[03:08] <thegladiator> dont worry pkern , it has a decent to goodish GUI IMHO
[03:08] <pkern> What's the current recommended way to install Java on Ubuntu?
[03:08] <cello_rasp> az is a tried and tested client. the only problem is the java and phex will have the same java
[03:08] <jim> what i do is add the repos from auto matix which are the plf repos ect  and i havent had a problem
[03:08] <mebsd> i've been using fluxbox 0.9.14 for about a year, but in ubuntu still it's 0.9.12
[03:08] <raphink> pkern: look at the wiki page on RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <cello_rasp> pkern go to the azureus site and install from the sun java source
[03:09] <pkern> I guess j2sdk1.4 as in Blackdown isn't enough?
[03:09] <pkern> raphink: Ok.
[03:09] <jim> every so often you will have to change them as servers shut down ect
[03:09] <raphink> pkern: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:09] <jim> guys i will be right back i need more coffee
[03:09] <thegladiator> pkern, this is what you need to do install sun's java and get phex . you can run phex as simple as "ava -jar phex.jar" . you could set a launcher for it from the desktop . i need to rush . good luck
[03:09] <brasko> Why does ubuntu use Vino? instead of x11vncserver?
[03:09] <hikenboot> does ubuntu put python in a different location than where it is normally expected?
[03:10] <thegladiator> hikenboot, no
[03:10] <pkern> thegladiator: Thank you.
[03:10] <thegladiator> hikenboot, /usr/bin/python
[03:10] <mevvis> happy new year!!!
[03:10] <pkern> raphink: Exactly what I need, thanks.
[03:10] <thegladiator> hikenboot, its not a practise to change directoies pf pythong and perl etc.
[03:11] <hikenboot> ah ok I get a compile errror that the directory is not found its looking for python 2.4 maybe its a version problem
[03:11] <apokryphos> sebas_: hi, sorry I was out for a bit, would've missed any messages...
[03:12] <pkern> ubotu: Javas
[03:12] <pkern> ubotu: Java
[03:12] <ubotu> pkern: I haven't a clue
[03:12] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:12] <pkern> (Sorry for spamming |:)
[03:13] <dabaR> hikenboot: you could link to your python dir or bin.
[03:14] <brasko> What's the correct way to install gcc/g++?
[03:14] <_rYe_> seveas: i can now see the wireless connection in the networks... i activated it and after i opened firefoz and typed google.com, then my system hanged... wat would i do?
[03:15] <dabaR> _rYe_: you have a proper IP under "ifconfig"?
[03:15] <dabaR> brasko: install build-essential
[03:15] <Zugwrack> Anyone in here familiar with firewire, and firewire drives? I am experiencing a problem when I try to do a sustained write to my external firewire drive...works ok on small file sizes i.e. ~5mb...anything bigger it starts drive access then aborts with an error....
[03:15] <brasko> thanks, looking for something like that
[03:16] <_rYe_> dabar: i dnt know. il check. i just finished installing the wireless driver.. but it hanged ryt now, wat would i do, just close the laptop and open it up again?
[03:16] <jim> back with fresh coffee
[03:17] <hikenboot> I am afraid i cant get the syntax right for disovering the version of a package installed its sudo apt-get -V package-name?
[03:17] <dabaR> _rYe_: what is the interface shown as in networking?And did you try activating the interface through networking? And what guide are you following?
[03:17] <mebsd> i don't think i like ubuntu
[03:17] <dabaR> hikenboot: python is 2.4.2
[03:17] <mebsd> package out of date, glxgears cause crashes
[03:17] <apokryphos> mebsd: why?
[03:17] <jim> anyone here try thinkfree office suite yet? seems like its fast and furious
[03:17] <Nei> hi, could someone tell me how to make a virtual console that shows system messages?
[03:18] <Exxcaliber> Hey Guys, do you know how to fix the problem, which only makes one able to play a single audio streame at a time?
[03:18] <_rYe_> dabaR: there are three interfaces in networking: wireless connection (w/c just showd up now), etho w/c is for the wired lan, and the other one for dial up
[03:18] <dabaR> Exxcaliber: did you try running "esd" in a terminal, and are your programs set to esound output?
[03:18] <apokryphos> !tell Exxcaliber about dmix
[03:19] <brasko> So, since ubuntu stays up to date with the compilers, does it have to reinstall everything, when the compiler changes?
[03:19] <dabaR> _rYe_: did you take a look at ifconfig yet? and tell me the exact name... or do "sudo ifup ifaceName"
[03:19] <Exxcaliber> dabaR,  Nope :) Neither
[03:19] <Exxcaliber> thx, apokryphos
[03:19] <apokryphos> brasko: repackaged, yes.
[03:19] <jim> has anyone here used any good photo album suite that allows for making a vcd with music in background
[03:19] <dabaR> brasko: ubuntu distributes precompiled binaries for the architectures it supports.
[03:19] <brasko> Wow, so how often does that take, when everything needs to be repackaged?
[03:20] <dabaR> brasko: every release. it is not so hard to create the .debs
[03:20] <brasko> O, the compiler and base system is modified for each release?
[03:20] <apokryphos> brasko: only on big gcc transitions. Well, it doesn't *need* to, but a lot of things work differently -- different errors/reactions with new compilers.
[03:20] <_rYe_> dabaR: dabaR: i just did ifconfig now: etho, lo, and wlan0 are present
[03:20] <brasko> OK, I'm sure I'll get the hang of it as I do my first update.
[03:21] <brasko> Will it ask me to upgrade the system? or only security fixes?
[03:21] <dabaR> _rYe_: I asked whether it has a proper IP, the wlan0 is the wireless interface.
[03:21] <Exxcaliber> apokryphos, im a little confused.. Do i need dmix? I mean, it says on the front page that i don't need it unless im running an old version of alsa :) ?
[03:21] <brasko> For instance, in debian, I used to do apt-get -u dist-ugprade all the time.
[03:21] <apokryphos> brasko: without changing your repos: only security updates.
[03:21] <dabaR> Exxcaliber: did you run esd in a terminal and see whether that helps?
[03:21] <brasko> OK, how do I get alerted of new distro's?
[03:22] <brasko> Do I have to register an email list somewhere?
[03:22] <hikenboot> ah ok didnt have python2.4-dev installed
[03:22] <apokryphos> brasko: they happen in April and October
[03:22] <spacey> brasko, what do you mean with new distro's?
[03:22] <brasko> haha, what are you talking about? Serious?
[03:22] <dabaR> brasko: they are avail every 6 months, as a set release schedule, and you can find out when a new release is there through the web site...
[03:22] <brasko> spacey: sorry, I meant to say new release.
[03:22] <_rYe_> dabaR: how would i know whether it has a proper ip? i am new at ubuntu and doesnt know much about programming. thanks
[03:22] <apokryphos> brasko: yes, it has a 6-month release cycle.
[03:22] <Exxcaliber> dabaR, nope, but shouldn't the sound deamon start by itself, and more importantly, do i need to define a special sound deamon, to the soun applications i run?
[03:22] <spacey> brasko, hard to miss new ubuntu releases ;)
[03:22] <dabaR> _rYe_: it is networking. what is the IP on the wireless, is it 192.168.0.something?
[03:23] <brasko> Wow, I'm interesting to see that happen! I was with debian for several years, and only saw 1 release.
[03:23] <shining> any reason why firefox 1.5 final is still not in dapper? it was released ages ago, and dapper still use a broken beta version instead.. it's silly
[03:23] <apokryphos> brasko: that's one of the issues ubuntu tries to address. See /msg ubotu relationship
[03:23] <Exxcaliber> dabaR, It's already running (esd)
[03:23] <dabaR> Exxcaliber: what apps are you running?
[03:24] <Exxcaliber> xmms and totem
[03:24] <apokryphos> xmms, yuck
[03:24] <_rYe_> dabaR: i went to the properties of wlan0, network name is correct and configuration is in DHCP so the ip address is blank
[03:24] <brasko> Great, so, ubuntu doesn't have the x11vncserver, and it only has vine.
[03:24] <dabaR> Exxcaliber: did you set xmms up for esound output?
[03:24] <dabaR> !xmss
[03:24] <ubotu> I don't know, dabaR
[03:24] <brasko> However, vine is to slow, and I can't find a configuration file for it
[03:24] <Exxcaliber> hehe..
[03:24] <Exxcaliber> nope
[03:24] <dabaR> !+xmms
[03:24] <ubotu> methinks xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[03:24] <Exxcaliber> dabaR,  so i do have to set everything up to use esd?
[03:24] <arcade> Hm.  I don't have the "arial" font in amsn (not sure if i have it at all).  Is there any "really needed" font-packages I need to install for ubuntu?
[03:25] <dabaR> Exxcaliber: maybe, try that to start.
[03:25] <spacey> brasko, vine is default installed but there are much more
[03:25] <dabaR> !fonts
[03:25] <ubotu> it has been said that fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[03:25] <shining> any reason why firefox 1.5 final is still not in dapper? it was released ages ago, and dapper still use a broken beta version instead.. it's silly
[03:25] <Exxcaliber> kk, thx for your help dabaR
[03:25] <spacey> brasko, use apt-cache search ;)
[03:25] <brasko> is it me, or is it really slow?
[03:25] <_rYe_> dabaR: when i did ifconfig, in wlan0, there is something that says "inet addr: 192.168.1.34".... and there are other info as well
[03:25] <dabaR> arcade: why ask us do you need them -- you would know.
[03:25] <spacey> brasko, i think VNC is slow in general
[03:25] <brasko> geez, I can't find a better solution.
[03:25] <arcade> dabaR: Things look ugly, but I don't know anything about fonts.
[03:25] <spacey> brasko, depends on your use
[03:25] <dabaR> Rytmis: is eth0 connected now?
[03:25] <brasko> My KVM screws up the mouse when I switch back to ubuntu
[03:26] <apokryphos> shining: dapper is broken, itself. Not recommended that you use it.
[03:26] <spacey> for remote desktop i use FreeNX
[03:26] <brasko> it used to be OK in debian, older kernel/X
[03:26] <spacey> but you can't take over session that were started locally
[03:26] <dabaR> arcade: then try some of those, and tell us whether they are prettie.
[03:26] <Lemon-> ubotu, w32codec
[03:26] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:26] <brasko> Yeah, they were talking about freenx last night
[03:26] <arcade> dabaR: :)
[03:27] <brasko> I don't understand the difference yet
[03:27] <brasko> between that and VNC
[03:27] <arcade> dabaR: It was just that the default aMSN font was completely unreadable..
[03:27] <spacey> brasko, freenx is not comparable with vnc
[03:27] <brasko> Is it client/server
[03:27] <spacey> brasko, yeah, but it uses X
[03:27] <spacey> and also does sound
[03:27] <brasko> should I run a ubuntu server? and windows client?
[03:27] <brasko> whoa, that's cool
[03:28] <bluesea> hi, I'm totaly new to debian and I cant find how to install mplayer on my new ubuntu 5.10 breezy, "sudo apt-cache pkgnames | grep mplayer" = no line, is it normal ? how can I get a bigger list of available package ?
[03:28] <arcade> dabaR: now installing msncorefonts.. i think. :)
[03:28] <spacey> brasko, you can do that if you want
[03:28] <dabaR> !+info firefox dapper
[03:28] <brasko> If it's better, I'd like to give it a try
[03:28] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.4.99+1.5rc3.dfsg-1ubuntu9 (dapper), Packaged size: 7677 kB, Installed size: 22732 kB
[03:28] <_rYe_> dabar: what's next? and wat do i put in the "key type field", hexadecimal or plain ascii? my router doesnt have a wep key or any security
[03:28] <apokryphos> !tell bluesea about mplayer
[03:28] <spacey> brasko, compared to vnc its heaven imho ;)
[03:28] <brasko> nice!
[03:28] <brasko> What ubuntu package should I install?
[03:28] <brasko> or do I have to manually install it?
[03:28] <spacey> brasko, its in seveas.ubuntulinux.nl repository
[03:28] <spacey> so you have to add that one
[03:28] <brasko> OK, I haven't done that yet.
[03:28] <spacey> its not officially in ubuntu repositories yet
[03:29] <brasko> that's fine
[03:29] <spacey> just read that page
[03:29] <spacey> its for breezy
[03:29] <spacey> and works perfectly
[03:29] <brasko> very sorry, what page?
[03:29] <spacey> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:30] <spacey> you might want to use one of the mirrors
[03:30] <_rYe_> dabaR__: still there?
[03:30] <spacey> i'm off
[03:30] <dabaR> _rYe_: sec, at work...
[03:31] <brasko> ouch, thought I was going to get some nice help :)
[03:31] <kdogg> Howdy, is anyone else having trouble with the hibernate feature?  I can hibernate successfully, but when I try to resume, I get a blank screen and endless disk io
[03:31] <brasko> Thanks for the advice
[03:31] <spacey> brasko, just read up a bit
[03:31] <spacey> brasko, should be in the wiki as well
[03:31] <brasko> OK, thanks
[03:31] <_rYe_> dabarR: okay thanks
[03:32] <spacey> brasko, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX ;)
[03:33] <brasko> great!
[03:33] <dabaR> _rYe_: what is the key type question about?
[03:34] <BullFire> how can I make unbuntu autoload a networkcard driver at startup?
[03:34] <brasko> haha, where's the sources.list file in ubuntu?
[03:35] <_rYe_> dabaR: for the key type field: what would i choose? hexadecimal or ascii? my router doesnt use encryption
[03:35] <Inf3ctedFx> bra1nf00d: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:35] <Inf3ctedFx> sorry si for brasko
[03:36] <Inf3ctedFx> lol
[03:36] <BullFire> I have tried /etc/modules but i doesn't work
[03:36] <BullFire> can anybody give some tips?
[03:37] <Inf3ctedFx> well BullFire I went to system/Administration/Network
[03:37] <Inf3ctedFx> well BullFire I went to system/Administration/Networking
[03:37] <dabaR> _rYe_: then disable encription in some setting. is this when you try to activate wlan0 in networking?
[03:38] <BullFire> but I have a server installation
[03:38] <dabaR> BullFire: ya, but what driver do you need enabled. Do you know of a way to enable it yourself in a terminal?
[03:38] <Inf3ctedFx> mm well I dunno sorry
[03:39] <BullFire> yes modprobe ipg
[03:39] <_rYe_> dabaR: wlan0 is already activated
[03:39] <dabaR> _rYe_: right, so where are you being asked for the key?
[03:39] <_rYe_> dabaR: its fix already
[03:39] <dabaR> BullFire: wasn't the command to add the module permanently something like "sudo modprobe -a ipg"?
[03:40] <dabaR> BullFire: don't just run that, I am not sure, but read the man page.
[03:40] <_rYe_> dabar: wat is the network connection in the desktop panel?
[03:40] <dabaR> _rYe_: so you are up with wireless?
[03:40] <BullFire> dabaR: why not?
[03:40] <dabaR> _rYe_: it is what you set it to. Open it, and then choose the interface you want it to monitor.
[03:41] <jens_> guten tag
[03:41] <BullFire> dabaR: whats the man page?
[03:41] <dabaR> BullFire: sec.
[03:41] <jens_> only english?
[03:41] <_rYe_> dabaR: i opened it and under connection name, I only see "lo"? is the the wireless connection or another thing?
[03:44] <mahangu> how can i remove a package i installed via dpkg?
[03:44] <Hoxzer> apt-get --uninstall I guess
[03:45] <Hoxzer> try it
[03:45] <dabaR> _rYe_: then it is monitoring the local interface "lo" that is not an Internet interface, that is your own computer interface. try "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal which will close and reopen your panel, maybe reloading the network monitor.
[03:45] <Hoxzer> or you can do it via synapic
[03:45] <soci0path> dpkg -u packagename
[03:45] <apokryphos> mahangu: sudo apt-get remove package
[03:45] <_rYe_> dabaR: thanks very much!
[03:45] <dabaR> _rYe_: it works or not?
[03:45] <mahangu> apokryphos, it was a .deb file
[03:45] <apokryphos> soci0path: huh? Uninstall, not unpack.
[03:46] <mahangu> i did dpkg -r
[03:46] <_rYe_> dabaR: i now have wireless runing! i spent 2 days, literally... on installing wireless
[03:46] <mahangu> apokryphos, that ff 1.5 deb sucks
[03:46] <mahangu> whoever compiled it
[03:46] <apokryphos> mahangu: you can do that too; apt uses dpkg.
[03:46] <soci0path> oops -r
[03:46] <_rYe_> dabar: thanks for the help! i really like ubuntu now
[03:46] <brasko> holy crap!
[03:46] <apokryphos> mahangu: what's wrong with it?
[03:46] <soci0path> been up all night, sorry
[03:46] <dabaR> _rYe_: good.
[03:46] <brasko> freenx is awesome!
[03:46] <mahangu> apokryphos, dpkg doesnt like it
[03:47] <mahangu> ff 1.5 that is
[03:47] <apokryphos> mahangu: what's the error, and what .deb pack are you referring to?
[03:47] <Vader> Happy New Year folks
[03:47] <cvt|gnuyear> i deleted the search plugins in firefox but they keep displaying. any ideas how to get rid of them?
[03:48] <shining> apokryphos: what's broken?
[03:49] <mahangu> apokryphos, firefox_1.5.0-0nonfree1_i386.deb <---
[03:49] <mahangu> from the wiki page i was linked to earlier
[03:49] <Vader> Seveas, I have a P4 laptop and want to be able to tell when my battery is runnig low, what command do I type in to get that working? running Breezy
[03:49] <apokryphos> shining: dapper. It's technically unstable, and not recommended that you use it until official is out. (though, nearer the time it stabilises. Now it's a landmine though)
[03:49] <jens_> i would like to change my monitor solution higher then 1024, how can i fix it?
[03:49] <Tomcat_> cvt|gnuyear: There are two locations for searchplugins, maybe you only deleted in one.
[03:49] <apokryphos> !tell mahangu about ff1.5
[03:49] <apokryphos> !tell jens_ about resolution
[03:49] <Inf3ctedFx> Vader: get GDesklets
[03:49] <mahangu> that's the page
[03:49] <Inf3ctedFx> xD
[03:50] <Vader> ty Inf3ctedFx
[03:50] <cvt|gnuyear> Tomcat_, i deleted the ones in /usr/lib/mozilla firefox ; where's the other?
[03:50] <shining> apokryphos: I know that and besides I don't see how it's related to my question
[03:50] <Tomcat_> Vader: If you installed breezy on a laptop, shouldn't you already have a battery plugin in one of the panels?
[03:50] <apokryphos> shining: what was your question?
[03:50] <Vader> it is there but tells me there is no battery there Tomcat_
[03:50] <Tomcat_> cvt|gnuyear: ~/.mozilla/firefox/<yourprofile>/search
[03:50] <kbrooks|bed> back
[03:51] <shining> apokryphos: any reason why ff 1.5 final is not there yet?
[03:51] <jens_> hmm yeah resolution.. and now?
[03:51] <Tomcat_> Vader: Ugh... then something's wrong with the ACPI system altogether.
[03:51] <apokryphos> shining: yes, obviously because dapper = unstable, an *awful* lot of going on. You're expecting it to have the latest stable version of a given package. Curious.
[03:51] <Vader> how would I go about fixing it then Tomcat_ ?
[03:51] <Tomcat_> Vader: I'd love to help fix it, but I'm not that knowledgeable with hardware stuff. :\
[03:51] <Vader> k ty
[03:52] <rev> why are modules located in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile recovered after reboot? I cannot delete a specific module
[03:52] <dabaR> BullFire: "echo ipg|sudo tee -a /etc/modules"
[03:52] <dabaR> BullFire: that will add the module to startup.
[03:52] <kaine> has any one got the nvmixer running?
[03:52] <kaine> i always get: nvmixer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open share d object file: No such file or directory
[03:52] <shining> apokryphos: yes that's what I don't get. an awful lot of going on, and still nothing on firefox side. besides sid already has a working 1.5 firefox
[03:52] <pepsi> hi there
[03:53] <mahangu> apokryphos, Updating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...mv: cannot move `/tmp/fileGUw5Xk' to `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions/installed-extensions.txt': No such file or directory
[03:53] <apokryphos> kaine: install libstdc++5
[03:53] <shining> maybe they are just lazy
[03:53] <marcster> hi. is there a similar tool in ubuntu which checks status of installed .deb files  (md5sum, modification, etc), something like rpm's ?
[03:53] <apokryphos> shining: you can't think of dapper, as it is now, as sid.
[03:54] <kremonte> where are fonts installed to? =x
[03:54] <pepsi> im trying to set a filter in synaptic that will show me all packages installed that were not installed because of ubuntu-desktop.. i tried saying `dependent packages excludes ubuntu-desktop` but it that only filters packages directly dependant upon ubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <pepsi> any ideas?
[03:55] <kaine> okay thx
[03:55] <BullFire> dabaR: I will try that:)
[03:55] <yj> hi.. i'm using ubuntu 5.10 on an acer travelmate 290. the sound i get from playing movies/mp3s is very 'noisy'. anyone knows how to fix this? thanks
[03:55] <apokryphos> pepsi: you can use debfoster, in conjugation with ubuntu-desktop, to determine that.
[03:55] <spacey> pepsi, generate list of all installed packages and compare it to the list in ubuntu-desktop or something
[03:55] <PeteyCrack> /etc/X11/fonts
[03:56] <pepsi> debfoster.. but the dependencies can be zillions of packages deep :)
[03:56] <RaethDragon> Hey, I solved my problem
[03:56] <ice-t> hi. i have some problems with my build-in card reader. http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/1169 <-- please help me
[03:56] <BullFire> how do I exit man ?
[03:56] <pepsi> er.. that comment was for spacey.... apokryphos: i will check out debfoster
[03:56] <apokryphos> pepsi: huh? So? debfoster handles that. Check the --help page
[03:56] <apokryphos> ok
[03:56] <dogson> yj: try setting the pcm channel in alsamixer below 75%
[03:57] <ice-t> my card reader had already worked, but now it does not
[03:57] <spacey> pepsi, yeah what apokryphos is much better :p
[03:57] <RaethDragon> I ran checkdisk from Windows, and now Ubuntu can write to the drives.
[03:57] <kaine> apokryphos,  did you know how to configure it? (nvmixer)
[03:57] <rev> I copied a patched module to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/misc and did depmod -ae ... but instead this module another one gets loaded (located in volatile directory) ...I tried to delete it there but after reboot its recovered...anyone can tell me how to solve this?
[03:57] <apokryphos> kaine: never used it, so no
[03:57] <kaine> okay :(
[03:58] <yj> dogson: how do i access the alsamixer? thanks
[03:58] <apokryphos> yj: in terminal -> alsamixer
[03:59] <_rYe_> dabaR: thanks a lot! one last question, the drivers for my wireless card are located at my desktop... its not in a folder. can i create a folder in a desktop and place my drivers there. won't doing this affect my settings since im thinking that the driver may not be located since i changeg its location?
[03:59] <yj> dogson: yeah that works. thanks!!
[04:00] <cvt|gnuyear> Tomcat_, thx
[04:01] <ice-t> Hi! my card reader already worked, but now it does not (i don't know why). here is the syslog:
[04:01] <bluesea> When I type: sudo apt-get install mplayer-586, I get E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586, I have ubuntu Breezy badger, Any idea ?
[04:01] <ice-t> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/1169
[04:01] <dabaR> _rYe_: the driver is installed.
[04:01] <dabaR> _rYe_: thus, no.
[04:02] <_rYe_> dabaR: so it wont matter if i changed its location? thanks dabaR
[04:02] <PeteyCrack> !tell bluesea about repositories
[04:02] <_rYe_> dabaR: irc and your web forums are really great! thanks to you guys! people like me get happy! =p
[04:02] <bluesea> ty Peteycrack
[04:02] <xjlittle> good morning!  can someone help me with exim4 problem on my breezy server?
[04:03] <PeteyCrack> bluesea: no problem
[04:03] <BullFire> nobody knows how do I exit man pages ?
[04:03] <dabaR> BullFire: "q"
[04:03] <ravi_> hi
[04:03] <dabaR> BullFire: I am sure someone knows.
[04:04] <dickme> hi
[04:04] <xjlittle> I am unable to send mail outside of the local net  using my isp's mail server-I went through the faq on exim site
[04:04] <BullFire> dabaR: thank you:)
[04:04] <dabaR> tell me whether that what I told you worked. When you reboot...:-/
[04:04] <xjlittle> can anyone here help?
[04:05] <chandler_> h, i'm trying to install amsn 0.95 can anyone help me?
[04:05] <dabaR> xjlittle: did you point your server to use your ISPs server in the config? I mean, that is what you said just now, right?
[04:06] <xjlittle> dabaR:  I would if I could figure out where that setting is..
[04:06] <dabaR> xjlittle: how did you cvonfigure exim?
[04:07] <dabaR> I mean, what did you use? dpkg-reconfigure?
[04:07] <tola> can someone point me towards information about the Ubuntu Server distribution on the web site? I can't find it
[04:07] <dabaR> !server
[04:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[04:07] <xjlittle> dabaR: no, I just accepted the default as I was unfamiliar with exim's term of smart host
[04:08] <tola> cheers
[04:08] <xjlittle> dabaR: I haven't used dpkg-reconfigure
[04:08] <_rYe_> dabar: when i shut down ubuntu  and clict logout, do i need to check the box "save current setup"?
[04:08] <dabaR> xjlittle: the default is likely configured only for the local net, as you are seeing. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim" will take you through the process. Try that, tell me how it works for you.
[04:09] <dabaR> _rYe_: for what, for the wireless? I do not think they are related. DId restarting the panel bring wlan0 to the nwetwork monitor?
[04:09] <xjlittle> dabaR: ok doing that now..
[04:09] <skiy> Hi folks, I have a very strange error when installing Dapper: The installer complains "No kernel modules were found"
[04:09] <_rYe_> dabaR: its not for the wireless anymore..
[04:10] <skiy> Does anyone know of a workaround for this?
[04:10] <_rYe_> dabaR: i just wonder if i need to check the check box "save current setup" that is in the logout screen when i choose to shutdown
[04:11] <tola> dabaR: Is the announcment all the information there is available? Is there not a part of the main web site dedicated to this distribution? A wiki page perhaps?
[04:11] <xjlittle> dabaR: It didn't take me through the setup, it just returned without an error or any other text
[04:11] <dabaR> _rYe_: Did you make some changes, do you want them saved? I never had that option on, and everything worked fine. Now I use openbox instead of gnome, so it is not something I know about, not sure what that even does really.
[04:11] <johnny> what's the command to launch that sympatico package manage?
[04:12] <dabaR> johnny: "sudo synaptic" might work in a terminal, but you can use the gnome menu; System>Admin>Synaptic P.M.
[04:12] <zamuro> johnny: synaptic &
[04:12] <Dr_Acemaster> I'm trying to browse a windows share w/ the file browser, but it's not showing the share, how do I find the share?
[04:12] <_rYe_> dabaR" okay thanks
[04:12] <brasko> I noticed default file permissions are bob:bob on the ubuntu machine, and bob:users on debian machines. Any reason why ubuntu did it this way?
[04:13] <kemik> brasko:  possible "more secure" with a group for each user, so a multiuser system wouldnt accidentally share files between users ?
[04:14] <kemik> brasko:  not many ppl "new to linux" realize what users/groups are and/or how to use them properly
[04:14] <brasko> yeah, that's true
[04:14] <xjlittle> dabaR: I used sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4 ... would it be anything else besides exim4?
[04:15] <zamuro> Actually, Mandriva does the same... U know, since ubuntu is mainly a desktop oriented distro, and debian is often used by servers... That gotta be the main reason.
[04:15] <Evil_Whisper> anyone fimiliar with the sensors output?
[04:15] <pkern> brasko: bob:bob is also what Debian's adduser does by default
[04:16] <sethk> pkern, really?  for me it did sethk:sethk     :)
[04:16] <pkern> brasko: I don't think they diverted here.
[04:16] <pkern> sethk: Pft.
[04:16] <sethk> pkern, your's should be pkern, not Pft.  :)
[04:17] <pkern> sethk: Should I really restate it in terms that advanced users also get, not only normal users?
[04:17] <sethk> unfortunately Red Hat and Fedora also do the same thing, that is, create a new group for a new user
[04:17] <pkern> sethk: adduser creates a new group with the username of the newly created user and assigns the user to it.
[04:17] <sethk> slackware does it correctly (adding a new user to "users" by default)
[04:17] <pkern> sethk: Ubuntu does it, Debian does it; Gentoo does not IIRC.
[04:17] <epitk> hi everybody... anybody who can help me with the configuration of a wlan interface?
[04:18] <pkern> sethk: It's philosophy. On servers I do want my own group, on Desktops I do not.
[04:18] <Evil_Whisper> I need somone to look at a pastebin of my sensors output and tell me if everything is OK
[04:18] <pkern> sethk: But anyway a users group is useless.
[04:18] <pkern> sethk: If all are assigned to it, one could use o+rwx
[04:19] <pkern> sethk: (And yes I am aware of daemons)
[04:19] <sethk> pkern, making each user a member of his own group is absurd.  It totally defeats the point of having a group in the first place
[04:19] <MithsirX> Hi! I just got a new Wacom Graphire4 tablet. Badgers Xorg doesn't seem to support that, what can I do?
[04:20] <rev>  I copied a patched module to /lib/modules/2.6.15-10-686/misc and did depmod -ae ... but instead this module another one gets loaded (located in /lib/modules/2.6.15-10-686/volatile) ...I tried to delete it there but after reboot its recovered...anyone can tell me how to solve this?
[04:20] <emjay>  hi.. when clicking "Write Message" Thunderbird crashes with this konsole output:
[04:20] <emjay> run-mozilla.sh: line 159:  8975 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:20] <dabaR> xjlittle: sudo eximconfig
[04:20] <sethk> rev, well, first off, you can always delete the module file.  it can't be loaded if it isn't there
[04:21] <rev> sethk: yes, but after I reboot its there again
[04:21] <kbrooks> sethk, its not absurd, but ok
[04:22] <sethk> kbrooks, sure it is.  you can get the same effect by assigning users to a default group, and having that group own zero resources
[04:22] <sethk> rev, you mean it is rebuilt?  or copied from somewhere?
[04:24] <rev> sethk: when I delete the module in volatile directory and reboot ...the whole directory is recovered to its previous state....I can delete all modules in that directory and all are restored on reboot.. I don't know how and why
[04:24] <xjlittle> dabaR:  I don't have an eximconfig file-am I creating one?
[04:24] <sethk> rev, the modules must exist, then, elsewhere in the /lib/modules tree
[04:25] <sethk> rev, those are copied into (effectively) a ram disk for performance reasons
[04:25] <xjlittle> dabaR: root@ubuntuserver:/etc/exim4# sudo eximconfig
[04:25] <xjlittle>  ---- sudo: eximconfig: command not found
[04:25] <dradul> rev, the module is loaded from the initramfs image (a.k.a., initrd). Doing a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)" and rebooting should help you fix your problem (read the initramfs tools man pages).
[04:26] <joshi> Hello. I have a problem with installing java
[04:26] <rev> dradul: modules like nvidia.ko and fglrx.ko are located in initrd?
[04:27] <PeteyCrack> joshi: ok shoot.
[04:27] <johnny> ubuntu packages are out of date
[04:27] <dradul> rev, that is correct.
[04:27] <joshi> From wiki last step. It sais to do this "dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb"
[04:27] <joshi> when i do that it gives me this:
[04:27] <joshi> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:27] <sethk> rev, my initrd doesn't include my nvidia.ko module.  Unless you've rebuilt your initrd (the one that was put there by the install or a kernel update) then no, nvidia.ko is not in the initrd
[04:27] <MithsirX> I need the "Xorg SDK" to compile a new version of the wacom_drv X-Module. Where can I get that?
[04:27] <PeteyCrack> joshi: use sudo
[04:28] <dradul> rev, you manipulate the contents of initrd by editing the config files in /etc/mkinitramfs and rebuilding the initrd.
[04:28] <PeteyCrack> joshi: sudo before the command
[04:28] <joshi> thats with sudo
[04:28] <PeteyCrack> joshi: oh...
[04:28] <joshi> joshi@joshi:~/java$ sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[04:28] <joshi> Password:
[04:28] <joshi> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:28] <dabaR> he has synaptic open
[04:28] <joshi> true
[04:28] <PeteyCrack> joshi: do you?
[04:28] <PeteyCrack> joshi: then close it
[04:28] <mmans> Hi Everyone! Is it possible to disable the ata_piix driver during the boot of the install-cd?
[04:28] <dabaR> xjlittle: it is in the exim package. do sudo dpkg -L exim4 if you ahve that insalled, look for a config program.
[04:28] <jase> can anyone help me on a few probably really simple things?
[04:28] <joshi> joshi@joshi:~/java$ sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[04:28] <joshi> dpkg: error processing sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb (--install):
[04:28] <joshi>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[04:28] <joshi> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:28] <joshi>  sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[04:28] <PeteyCrack> jase: sure
[04:29] <PeteyCrack> joshi: dont paste here
[04:29] <dabaR> joshi: you can stop pasting now.
[04:29] <sethk> rev, normally the initrd is only used during boot.  It isn't normally around after boot
[04:29] <dabaR> joshi: I told you what the issue is caused by. close synaptic.
[04:29] <rev> dradul: sethk: I am a little confused ... makes no sense to me to include graphiccard drivers in initrd
[04:29] <joshi> closed it
[04:29] <sethk> rev, it isn't in initrd
[04:29] <joshi> then i got error above :P
[04:29] <cvt|gnuyear> why do computers  come with 2gB of ram if they can never even use 1gB of it
[04:29] <greenpenguin13> !paste
[04:29] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:29] <Exxcaliber> Hey, newbi Q, i know, but: How do i tell the console to execute one command, and then a secound command, once the first is done?
[04:29] <dabaR> joshi: how did you download it? is it on your desktop?
[04:29] <sethk> rev, I don't think you are confused.  It's easy enough to validate by extracting from your initrd.  I just did that here to make sure I'm telling you the correct thing
[04:30] <dabaR> Exxcaliber: command;command, or command && command means if the first one is successful then run seccond.
[04:30] <Exxcaliber> thx dabaR  :)
[04:30] <epitk> anbody has experience with atheros WLAN?
[04:30] <jase> ok, i just installed kubuntu yesterday, never usedlinux before. im trying to connect to my wireless lan. i have installed the pci card with ndiswrapper. and now i nee to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules, but when i save i get: 'could not be saved as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/modules. check that you have write acces to this file or that disc space is enough
[04:30] <joshi> yes. i downloaded it, but its not on desktop - made another dir for that file
[04:30] <dabaR> epitk: you should just ask what you want to do.
[04:31] <dabaR> ubotu: tell epitk about ask
[04:31] <sethk> joshi, you need to use sudo
[04:31] <dabaR> joshi: then cd directory/I/Made/for/the/file
[04:31] <sethk> epitk, I imagine thousands of people have experience with atheros
[04:31] <Unity> when i try to print something from the default pdf viewer, i don't get all the print settings that i get when i prith from openoffice writer
[04:31] <gnomefreak> jase, try using sudo before the command
[04:31] <rev> sethk: okay, these modules are not in initrd, and I looked for nvidia.ko in /lib/modules and it's ONLY in volatile directory
[04:31] <epitk> ...but my atheros doesnt work with ubuntu :(
[04:32] <xjlittle> dabaR: I got a return starting with /usr and ending with /usr/share/bug/exim4  but no eximconfig
[04:32] <Unity> how can i get all of those settings like toner density, resoltion, etc?
[04:32] <athlon> is archive.ubuntu.com down ? I am trying to apt-get totem-xine but it just hangs there
[04:32] <sethk> rev, check the entire machine then, not just /lib/modules.
[04:32] <dradul> rev, as sethk said, they are not by default, but they would be there if you had the nvidia drivers loaded (that is, you have an nvidia card in your system) and then installed a kernel update because mkinitramfs tries to take a snapshot of your running system plus the modules specified in /etc/modules and the configuration files in /etc/mkinitramfs.
[04:32] <dabaR> xjlittle: you did "sudo dpkg -L exim4"?
[04:32] <MithsirX> Is it already "safe" to upgrade to dapper?
[04:33] <gnomefreak> athlon, it doesnt look like it are you using a country code in your repos?
[04:33] <MithsirX> for amd64 that is
[04:33] <gnomefreak> MithsirX, no
[04:33] <greenpenguin13> MithsirX, depends how safe you want it :)
[04:33] <xjlittle> dabaR: Yes it just returned those paths..john@ubuntuserver:/etc/webmin$ sudo dpkg -L exim4
[04:33] <dabaR> joshi: when you run that command that gave you the error, it is looking for the file you downloaded in the directory your shell is in. you have to change to the directory you downloaded to using the "cd" command, and then run that command I listed.
[04:33] <dabaR> xjlittle: post the output of the command to pastebin.
[04:34] <rev> sethk: checked the whole machine, only volatile....
[04:34] <sethk> rev, did you extract from the initrd file and not see them there?
[04:34] <MithsirX> well, can I do the upgrade and expect everything to work?
[04:34] <dabaR> xjlittle: or just run sudo "apt-get install --reinstall exim4" to reinstall it, and it may ask you to configure it again.
[04:35] <sethk> rev, it still doesn't make much sense, though
[04:35] <MithsirX> gnomefreak, in how far is it not safe yet?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> MithsirX, no
[04:35] <gnomefreak> dapper is not stable
[04:35] <rev> sethk: no, how do I extract it?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> MithsirX, dapper is set to be released in april
[04:35] <sethk> rev, change the name to something.gz, gunzip it, then do cpio --list
[04:35] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~/ronja/trunk/schematics$ locate Pcb
[04:35] <lucasvo> /usr/share/pcb/Pcb
[04:35] <lucasvo> /usr/local/share/pcb/Pcb
[04:35] <lucasvo> Segmentation fault
[04:35] <dabaR> Unity: it seems the default pdf _writer_ is not the one used in openoffice, but I could be wrong.
[04:35] <lucasvo> *lol*
[04:35] <greenpenguin13> dapper is usably stable
[04:35] <sorush20> hel
[04:35] <nmsa> hello and Happy New Year!
[04:36] <greenpenguin13> if you dont mind the odd crash
[04:36] <gnomefreak> greenpenguin13, he expects everything to work
[04:36] <MithsirX> gnomefreak, will there be major troubles then? I mean, I used hoary about 3 Months before it was released and found it to be quite usable..
[04:36] <McJerry> MithsirX: I run dapper here, depends on what you use it for, I personally have very few issues
[04:36] <joshi> dabaR thnx... i had wrong numbers (wiki bit outdated- forgot to change the version number)
[04:36] <dabaR> greenpenguin13: not production use, though.
[04:36] <sethk> rev, cpio --list filename     where filename is your uncompressed initrd file
[04:36] <xjlittle> dabaR: It didn't take me throught the setup..
[04:36] <cyberix> What was the name for free software java meta package?
[04:36] <greenpenguin13> i guess :-p
[04:36] <xjlittle> dabaR: how do I use pastebin?
[04:36] <nmsa> Q: how can I startup auto pppoe ? adsl doens't come up unless I login and pon dsl-provider
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell xjlittle  about pastebin
[04:37] <nmsa> I also want to run some iptables scripts @ boot ?! how can I do that ?
[04:37] <MithsirX> well, if the upgrade process runs quite clean then I will probably try it.
[04:37] <jase> when i try sudo kate /etc/modules ndiswrapper, it says communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[04:37] <cyberix> free-java-sdk ?
[04:38] <kbrooks> everything?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> kbrooks, thats what he said
[04:38] <rev> sethk: hm nothing happens :D
[04:39] <epitk> who knows a "deb http://..."-source for synaptic that includes the real openoffice 2.0 (not 1.97) ?
[04:39] <dabaR> !pastebin
[04:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:39] <kbrooks> epitk, 1.97 is 2.0
[04:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell epitk  about easysource
[04:40] <Blaxter> or download the last rpms from website && alien -d *
[04:40] <sethk> rev, in 30 years of dealing with computer questions and problems, the statement "nothing happens" has absolutely never been true when I've heard it.
[04:40] <MithsirX> Well, before I upgrade, I would like to know if it will be worth it. Can someone who's running dapper please do a --grep "Graphire4" /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/wacom_drv.o -- for me?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> MithsirX,  packages.ubuntu.com will tell you if the drivers are there
[04:41] <sethk> rev, note that not seeing a list is very very different from "nothing happens"
[04:41] <Unity> which openoffice app (if any) can print pdf?
[04:41] <xored> Iam using pop3 to get emails. Somehow today i cannot login anymore. This is only the fact for some users, not for all. They all can send mails but cannot recieve. What could be the error and which logs to check ?
[04:41] <xjlittle> dabaR: ok I posted the output  to pastebin
[04:41] <sethk> rev, did you copy the file, rename it to something.gz, and uncompress it?  (the first step)?
[04:41] <rev> sethk: well, cpio --list initrd   (uncompressed..) and I see nothing
[04:41] <epitk> kbrooks i have installed 1.97 but its not really like 2.0 (the version published by sun a month ago, but not as deb)
[04:41] <rev> sethk: yes
[04:41] <gnomefreak> Unity, good luck on that everytime ive printed a pdf it comes out all screwed up
[04:42] <cyphase_> hi cyphase
[04:42] <cyphase_> lol
[04:42] <gnomefreak> epitk, in your pm is a link to add the OOo repo
[04:42] <sethk> rev, you get no message at all, just a prompt, after you do cpio --list filename?  try it with --verrbose
[04:42] <epitk> thx gnomefreak
[04:42] <sethk> rev, sorry --verbose
[04:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:42] <gnomefreak> 1.9 is 2.0 beta\
[04:43] <MithsirX> gnomefreak, yes, but will it also show me if the included file has Graphire4 support?
[04:43] <Unity> gnomefreak, ok thx for saving me the time of finding that out the hard way
[04:43] <sethk> rev, that would indicate an empty initrd file, which isn't impossible but isn't terribly likely.  I know the installation does not install an empty initrd
[04:43] <gnomefreak> MithsirX, look in the drivers section
[04:43] <sethk> rev, you are running a 2.6 kernel, not a 2.4 kernel?
[04:43] <rev> sethk: hm, same ...I am running 2.6.15
[04:43] <gnomefreak> Unity, if i ever figure it out ill let you know :)
[04:44] <MithsirX> gnomefreak, is it now modular? I think the file is included in some other package.
[04:44] <yj> hi, i installed realplayer 10, but when i try to run it through the Applications Menu, nothing happens. when i run it through the command line, i got this:     /usr/bin/realplay: line 75: 10844 Segmentation fault      $REALPLAYBIN "$@"
[04:44] <yj> any ideas? thanks
[04:44] <sethk> rev, sorry, my fault  :)
[04:44] <sethk> rev, it is   cpio --list < filename
[04:44] <gnomefreak> MithsirX,  i ran an apt-cache search and nothing was found
[04:45] <rev> sethk: ah okay that works
[04:45] <dabaR> xjlittle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
[04:45] <MithsirX> it seems to be in the xserver-xorg-input-wacom package
[04:45] <kremonte> any idea what may be causing this? just compiled wine from source; libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:45] <xjlittle> dabaR: ok doing it now.
[04:46] <gnomefreak> kremonte, can i ask why you didnt get it from synaptic?
[04:46] <MithsirX> but still, I cant tell if it supports my device.
[04:46] <rev> sethk: no nvidia.ko, fglrx.ko or anything located in volatile
[04:46] <sethk> rev, that's what I figured, but we had to check
[04:46] <kremonte> gnomefreak- so i can run world of warcraft with it
[04:46] <gnomefreak> kremonte, also dont forget to cd into the dir where its downloaded
[04:46] <kremonte> am there still
[04:46] <sethk> rev, are you sure you've done updatedb since you installed the most recent nvidia driver?
[04:46] <McJerry> Mithsirx: Synaptic search produced this for me on dapper: X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
[04:46] <McJerry> This driver for the X.Org X server (see xserver-xorg for a further description)
[04:46] <McJerry> provides support for Wacom UD, PenPartner, Cintiq, Volito, Intuos and Graphire
[04:46] <McJerry> graphics tablets, as well as the TabletPC.
[04:47] <sethk> rev, I would to be sure to sudo updatedb
[04:47] <Unity> ubotu tell McJerry about pastebin
[04:47] <sethk> rev, I have to go walk my dog for a bit, sorry, but I'll be back shortly
[04:47] <rev> sethk: yup, I did it 5 times now ;D
[04:47] <McJerry> no need fpr pastebin
[04:47] <rev> sethk: okay thanks ill wait here ;)
[04:47] <sethk> rev, one is enough  :)
[04:47] <sethk> rev, k,
[04:47] <MithsirX> well, It looks to me as if breezy and dapper are using the exact same version of that file.
[04:48] <MithsirX> so an upgrade will be pointless
[04:48] <dustin> hey guys I'm new with the x-chat client what is the pm command with it?
[04:48] <yj> i installed the w32codecs, now i can hear the audio in *.wmv files, but i still can't see the video. what other things do i need to install? thanks
[04:48] <gnomefreak> MithsirX,  there are still added things to dapper they might have it ready but just havent gotten to it
[04:49] <Markbb-> "open dialogue window" dustin
[04:49] <dabaR> yj: some files can not be played. did you install totem-xine?
[04:49] <Markbb-> when you right click a nick
[04:49] <dustin> thanks mark
[04:49] <blaamann> yj: What player are you using ?
[04:49] <McJerry> MithsirX: version 6.8.2-77
[04:49] <MithsirX> well, I better try an get the linux wacom driver compiled myself...
[04:49] <gnomefreak> dustin, if you are registered than you would use /msg <name> <what you want to say>
[04:49] <yj> blaamann: VLC
[04:49] <Delvien> Anyone know the repo for Java for dapper?
[04:49] <gnomefreak> :))
[04:49] <blaamann> yj: Try mplayer and see if that works
[04:50] <MithsirX> McJerry, same here for breezy
[04:50] <dustin> awesome thanks
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Delvien, hold on let me get it
[04:50] <Delvien> gnomefreak thanks
[04:51] <MithsirX> the linuxwacom configure script doesn't find the "X11 SDK". Can anyone help me on that?
[04:51] <yj> blaaman: okay. thanks
[04:51] <McJerry> MithsirX: i've had to backport several apps to get them to work on dapper, but overall, dapper solved several problems i was having with breezy
[04:51] <xjlittle> dabaR: Ok that started the setup, going to test it now..
[04:51] <gnomefreak> Delvien, here is my complete breezy sources list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6381
[04:51] <dabaR> xjlittle: I know it started the setup, I tested.
[04:52] <MithsirX> McJerry, well, I only have that one problem: My Graphire4 is not supported.. :-)
[04:52] <McJerry> is it running on breezy?
[04:52] <Delvien> gnomefreak k thanks :) will just have to change all the "breezy" to "dapper"
[04:52] <gnomefreak> Delvien, the java one is only breezy
[04:53] <yj> dabaR: okay it's working now with totem. thanks!
[04:53] <Delvien> gnomefreak hmm
[04:53] <gnomefreak> dapper doesnt have any extra repos yet
[04:53] <Delvien> gnomefreak know which repo exactly ?
[04:53] <ossie> gnome freak can u get ubotu to tell me about the apt repositorie genreator please :)
[04:54] <ossie> gnomefreak,  can u get ubotu to tell me about the apt repositorie genreator please :)
[04:54] <gnomefreak> Delvien, only mian universe and multiverse are the ones that use dapper the rest are not set for dapper yet seeing as that dapper isnt released yet
[04:54] <Rapierian> hi
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ossie about sources
[04:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ossie about repos
[04:54] <ossie> nice 1 gnomefreak
[04:54] <gnomefreak> :))
[04:55] <Rapierian> how do I get the madwifi drivers to work? I have to use ndiswrapper for my wireless card because I can't figure out how to load madwifi properly
[04:55] <gnomefreak> Delvien, the breezy extra repos ie java kde OOo are fine staying breezy
[04:55] <cvt|gnuyear> i'm getting bad static on .wav files, any ideas?
[04:55] <gnomefreak> OOo you prolly wont need as ddapper has the lastest version of OOo
[04:55] <Delvien> gnomefreak cant seem to find a suitable j2rel candidate....
[04:56] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  whats wrong with 1.5?
[04:56] <Delvien> gnomefreak its saying i have no installation candidate in my sources
[04:57] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  after you added the java repo?
[04:57] <jase> how do i set the IP address for my machine for the wlan?
[04:57] <zer0trip> Happy New Year Everyone
[04:58] <Delvien> gnomefreak ah missed that one some how , trying again
[04:58] <Delvien> gnomefreak there we go
[04:58] <Delvien> gnomefreak dapper is awesome ill tell ya.
[04:59] <Delvien> alot faster than breezy, but with that ive had1 freeze, ( in 24 hours of use )
[04:59] <freelove> WOW! featherweight linux comes with libdvdcss2 preinstalled! do u guys know an other such distro?
[04:59] <Delvien> Firefox 1.5 is a bit unstable too ... and download window is blank all the time
[04:59] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: yea it is.
[04:59] <gnomefreak> Delvien, once you get past all the locales and stuff that is messed up yes its fine
[05:00] <gnomefreak> and dont install kubuntu with ubuntu :((
[05:00] <stoneage> ff 1.5 is qewl!
[05:00] <Rapierian> it seems like it shouldn't be any more complicated then typing modprobe ath_pci, but that doesn't do anything, and madwifi just won't seem to attach to my network card
[05:00] <xjlittle> dabaR:  Ok that will do it.   Thank you very much for your help!
[05:00] <gnomefreak> Delvien, they are working on that
[05:00] <PeteyPablo> let me ask a question, since a release is every 6 months when will they start working on the one after dapper? when dapper is released or before?
[05:00] <Delvien> aye
[05:01] <Delvien> onlything i miss greatly is VMware.. so i dont have to dual boot
[05:01] <Delvien> cant get it working
[05:01] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: i use vmware on breezy it works good? doesn't it work on dapper
[05:01] <Delvien> i cant get it to work on dapper yet
[05:01] <PeteyPablo> ah.
[05:01] <Delvien> i think its the kernal
[05:01] <Delvien> Vmware on breezy was awesome ,
[05:01] <Rapierian> when is dapper scheduled to release officially?
[05:02] <PeteyPablo> april
[05:02] <Delvien> The only reason i need Vmware is for winXP to sync my MP3 player (damn you philips for going ONLY WORKS ON WINXP) bs.
[05:02] <Delvien> April
[05:02] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: only reason i dual boot xp is because ventrilo has no linux client yet
[05:02] <PeteyPablo> vmware xp8
[05:02] <PeteyPablo> arg,
[05:02] <dabaR> xjlittle: fixed up?
[05:02] <PeteyPablo> i mean use vmware xp*
[05:03] <nmsa> My pppoe won't suto start; I have three lines for pppoe in interfaces: autodsl-provider; iface dsl-provider inet ppp and provider dsl-providerr, where should I put "up" statement ? on the third line ?
[05:03] <dabaR> xjlittle: so then you can receive email from say blah@yahoo.com onto your own computer?
[05:03] <McJerry> Delvien: i use vmware on dapper
[05:03] <dabaR> I mean, straight into our username?
[05:03] <Delvien> PeteyPablo my ultimate goal is to be XP free...
[05:03] <ossie> can anyone recommend a pc that would be good for ubuntu, im gonna change my pc, dont know whether to get the amd64 or if it will be hassle with ubntu
[05:03] <Delvien> McJerry howd you get it to work??
[05:03] <xjlittle> dabaR: Yeah I think so..I just have to figure out which server yahoo dsl wants me to use
[05:03] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: mine too
[05:04] <PeteyPablo> ossie: it will be a hassle
[05:04] <McJerry> Delvien: pm me
[05:04] <ossie> ok PeteyPablo
[05:04] <ossie> cheers
[05:05] <dabaR> xjlittle: that sounds cool, I will set my computer up that way one day.
[05:05] <dabaR> xjlittle: I have a dynamic DNS name for my home computer.
[05:06] <Delvien> McJerry i pmed you
[05:06] <McJerry> Delvien: is our nick registere?
[05:06] <xjlittle> dabaR:  I've done it before.it is pretty cool, but I did it with postfix on suse
[05:06] <Delvien> i forget how to register with nickserv
[05:07] <xjlittle> dabaR:  I do too. I use no-ip .com to keep up with the IP and MX records
[05:07] <yj> how do i uninstall RealPlayer 10? i installed it by running the *.bin file downloaded from the real.com website and i don't know how to remove the symbolic links....
[05:07] <yj> thanks
[05:07] <McJerry> in FreeNode window /msg NickServ REGISTER and it will tell you
[05:07] <enkrav> Hello, what do I need to install in order to program for java-gnome in ubuntu Without the Sun java SDK? Is there an open-source only solution?
[05:08] <Delvien> mcjerry go into the chat session
[05:10] <dabaR> xjlittle: and you have the automatic update package? I use dyndns and ez-ipupdate.
[05:10] <Delvien> mcjerry i got it , now i can mesg you
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell enkrav about javadebs
[05:11] <dabaR> yj: you could look for instructions on their site, or in a readme if the program came with one.
[05:11] <dabaR> gnomefreak: lol
[05:11] <gnomefreak> :))
[05:12] <dabaR> I mean, it is not that funny...but your solution to his inquiry is kinda not exactly what he meant.
[05:12] <Rapierian> well, looks like I have to switch this machine back to winXP. The drivers for my wireless card aren't fully functional, and I need this machine to be a bridge
[05:12] <[Ely] > Morning everyone.....
[05:12] <[Ely] > Happy New Year!
[05:12] <gnomefreak> dabaR, yes i know but im not real fond of giving out a repo for java if im the only one using it
[05:12] <dabaR> enkrav: Ubuntu has a java in the repos. visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:12] <xjlittle> dabaR: yes I am using a script that no-ip provides
[05:12] <yj> dabaR: there isn't any uninstallation instructions.. only installation....
[05:13] <apokryphos> enkrav: better idea to go for sun java debs, though; /msg ubotu javadebs
[05:13] <gnomefreak> see thats what i said :)
[05:14] <dabaR> yj: not sure then. You could look for its directory under /usr somewhere.
[05:14] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6381 is my complete sourceslist feel free to use what you want but they are not supported :))
[05:14] <yj> dabaR: yeah i can delete the directory. but there are still symbolic links. will those affect anything in the future? thanks
[05:15] <dabaR> ya, but he just wanted a non-Sun Java, and you gave him a link to a deb of sun's Java.
[05:15] <dabaR> yj: symbolic links for what?
[05:15] <hunika> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY
[05:15] <gnomefreak> dabaR, its newer that blackdown
[05:15] <dabaR> gnomefreak: and it is not Sun?
[05:15] <madgik85> Help would be appriciated, I am tring to sort out Totem Movie Player. Im particular the Audio. The Audio output at the momenet is set to 5.1 and it wont allow me to set it to Stero. Any help in doing this would be appriciated
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ok good point
[05:15] <kbrooks> yj:
[05:15] <kbrooks> x -> y:
[05:16] <kbrooks> rm x: doesnt affect y
[05:16] <kbrooks> rm y: affects x
[05:16] <gnomefreak> i just thought he didnt wanna do all that crap to get it from suns site
[05:16] <dabaR> madgik85: what issue are you seeing with 5.1 surroound sound output?
[05:16] <yj> dabaR: for mozilla firefox plugins
[05:17] <madgik85> its playing fine most of the time, but sometimes in movies, the voice of people is bearly hearable
[05:17] <dabaR> yj: not sure what it will do, I do not use either program.
[05:17] <yj> dabaR, kbrooks: okok thanks!
[05:17] <dabaR> madgik85: and what makes you think that is the reason? is the sound coming out of only one speaker or something?
[05:18] <foxiness> hi , any one test firefox-1.5.package on ubuntu and what will happen ? "before i do this"
[05:18] <ossie> anyone got a link to the dapper iso ?? please?
[05:18] <madgik85> dabaR: well i got a laptop, and it has two speakers on the front, which only seem to be the background sounds
[05:19] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[05:19] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[05:19] <gnomefreak> ossie,  good luck :))
[05:19] <ossie> gracis, my comp is screwed anyway i just want to see what its like
[05:19] <dabaR> madgik85: and, when you run "alsamixer" in a terminal, is master and pcm turned up?
[05:20] <ossie> getting new comp 2morrow, will see if i like dapper on ths old comp
[05:20] <Pygi> huh :P
[05:20] <dabaR> Pygi: welcome
[05:20] <Pygi> dabaR: thanks, and happy new year :)
[05:20] <Unity> wow! did you know that you can scroll left and right when viewing man pages?!
[05:21] <topyli> Seveas: ping
[05:21] <andrew_> i just set up ubuntu on my parents' computer, but i can't seem to be able to provide the permissions for the automounted (in fstab) windows disc to be browseable by all users.  could anyone help?
[05:21] <gangalino> I need help resolving a dependency problem w/ openssh that's stopping me from ssh & rsync
[05:21] <gangalino> Preconfiguring packages ...
[05:21] <gangalino> (Reading database ... 76218 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:21] <gangalino> Unpacking libopenh323-1.15.3c2 (from .../libopenh323-1.15.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb) ...
[05:21] <gangalino> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libopenh323-1.15.3c2_1.15.6-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[05:21] <gangalino>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libopenh323.so.1', which is also in package libopenh323-1.13.2
[05:21] <Pygi> ubotu: tell andrew_ about ntfs
[05:21] <gangalino> Preparing to replace linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 2.6.12-10.24 (using .../linux-image-2.6.12-10-386_2.6.12-10.25_i386.deb) ...
[05:21] <gangalino> The directory /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386 still exists. Continuing as directed.
[05:21] <bipolar> Sigh....
[05:21] <gangalino> Unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 ...
[05:21] <gangalino> Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub .
[05:21] <Pygi> gangalino: DO NOT PASTE :/
[05:21] <gangalino> Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst .
[05:21] <gangalino> Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[05:21] <gangalino> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386
[05:21] <gangalino> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-3-386
[05:21] <Pygi> NO PASTING
[05:21] <Pygi> !pastebin
[05:21] <gangalino> Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[05:21] <stoneage> lol
[05:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:21] <gangalino> Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done
[05:21] <bipolar> gangalino: CHECK THE TOPIC!!
[05:21] <Pygi> STOP IT NOW
[05:22] <Pygi> thanks apokryphos
[05:22] <foxiness> gangalino, helloo ^_^
[05:22] <Kindred> calm down.. :|
[05:22] <madgik85> dabaR: the pmc is but master isnt, if i turn master up its too loud
[05:22] <stoneage> i can paste the whole linux 2.615 krnl src if u like
[05:22] <apokryphos> stoneage: try
[05:23] <Inf3ctedFx> antgel:
[05:23] <andrew_> Pygi, cool, thanks!  "With the release of Breezy Badger (Ubuntu 5.10), this step should be almost automatic."  i'm on breezy and it was definitely not automatic; do these instructions still apply?
[05:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gangalino about paste
[05:23] <Inf3ctedFx> ahora si ke estoy jodido xD
[05:23] <Pygi> andrew: yesh :) if you are willing to open ssh server, I'll be glad to assist if you need...
[05:23] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ho, hello :)
[05:23] <gnomefreak> hi Pygi  :)) ty for your help lastnight
[05:24] <Pygi> gnomefreak: heh, np :) do you now have /bin filled and/or linux logo workin'?
[05:24] <andrew_> Pygi, no need; i'm no neophyte, just slightly pressed for time (and didn't find anything quickly).  i don't use windows on my own computer anymore, so i've kinda lost touch. ^_^
[05:24] <gnomefreak> i have linux_logo working on command but bin still empty
[05:24] <andrew_> Pygi, thanks though!
[05:24] <Pygi> andrew: kk :)
[05:24] <madgik85> dabaR: if i set the Audio output to 4 channel its alot better but still a bit fuzzy
[05:24] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :/
[05:25] <gnomefreak> linux_logo will start it :))
[05:25] <gnomefreak> who else has dapper in here?
[05:25] <greenpenguin13> me
[05:25] <Pygi> gnomefreak: that's bad :P I have dapper on another computer :)
[05:25] <gnomefreak> is your usr/local/bin empty?
[05:25] <greenpenguin13> as my main OS too :)
[05:25] <Pygi> gnomefreak: haven't checked :P
[05:25] <gnomefreak> mine is on dapper but breezy its not empty
[05:26] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:26] <cyphase> hey, why does Flight 2 (at least the live cd) have a bittorrent tracker running?
[05:26] <greenpenguin13> gnomefreak, no mines full
[05:26] <gnomefreak> :((
[05:26] <greenpenguin13> gnomefreak, but its all enlightenment stuff
[05:26] <Pygi> gnomefreak: maybe it has wrong permissions?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> my /usrt/bin/local is full :)) but usr/local/bin is empty
[05:26] <Riddell> cyphase: it's a bug (and I believe it doesn't actually run, just says it does)
[05:26] <Unity> does lp or lpr support prtintitg pdf's? if not, how can i print pdf's on the command line while boing able to specify a lot of options like toner saver and dpi, and toner density?
[05:27] <cyphase> Riddell, i see
[05:27] <gnomefreak> i agree with Riddell
[05:27] <Pygi> gnomefreak: btw. I'll need help from you in like  a month :) You'll need to alpha-test something for me :)
[05:27] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  if you got it im here
[05:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:27] <madgik85> dabaR : i think it has to do with the audio codec of the video being A/52 5.1
[05:28] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, what's funny this time? :P
[05:28] <gnomefreak> nothing as long as i dont have to compile it
[05:28] <Pygi> gnomefreak: yes, you will have to compile it :)
[05:28] <gnomefreak> thats fine
[05:29] <Pygi> well, just ./configure, make, make install should be fine if you have all dependencies :)
[05:29] <pepsi> how do i get out of a dpkg-reconfigure thingy?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> how bout check install?
[05:29] <pepsi> control-c wont work
[05:29] <Pygi> gnomefreak: heh, that should work as well...probably :P
[05:29] <gnomefreak> pepsi,  finish it to the end
[05:29] <topyli> gnomefreak: make packages, maintain them, and become a hero :)
[05:29] <ozgurgerilla> hi all. ive got ubuntu live cd and im trying to compile a java file but it isnt working. do I need to download anything else?
[05:29] <pepsi> i dont want to
[05:29] <pepsi> i want to exit
[05:30] <epitk> what is the best skype version for breezy? on which synaptic resource is the corresponding version to load?
[05:30] <gnomefreak> :)) topyli
[05:30] <apokryphos> pepsi: what are you reconfiguring?
[05:30] <Pygi> !java
[05:30] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:30] <apokryphos> !tell epitk about skype
[05:30] <Pygi> !javadebs
[05:30] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[05:30] <pepsi> xserver-xorg.. i made a mistake and i just want to go back
[05:30] <topyli> gnomefreak: print "master of the universe" on your business cards
[05:30] <ozgurgerilla> !javadebs
[05:30] <Pygi> I did it already, do not abuse ubotu :/
[05:30] <apokryphos> pepsi: finish it to the end and just reconfigure again, there's no "back step".
[05:30] <gnomefreak> topyli, :))
[05:30] <ajmitch> topyli: and get fame & fortune?
[05:30] <topyli> of course!
[05:31] <gnomefreak> if it was that easy i would
[05:31] <topyli> much cooler than "master of arts" or some other lame title
[05:31] <ajmitch> topyli: I wish I got some of that :)
[05:31] <gnomefreak> i would really like to learn how to make ubuntu packages :))
[05:31] <pepsi> thats annoying :(
[05:31] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, same as debian ones :P
[05:31] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPackagingGuide
[05:31] <Pygi> gnomefreak: there is motu school open or somethin'
[05:32] <andrew_> Pygi, many thanks.  that was exactly what i needed.  those masking options are new to me!
[05:32] <Pygi> huh, programming? :) You need help with programming? fire away :)
[05:32] <topyli> Pygi: #ubuntu-motu
[05:32] <apokryphos> Pygi: yes, #ubuntu-motu-school
[05:32] <Pygi> andrewY your welcome :)
[05:32] <topyli> oh
[05:32] <Pygi> apokryphos: well, there you go gnomefreak, go to school :)
[05:32] <ozgurgerilla> could someone please tell me a good irc program for ubuntu?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Pygi, not yet but im sure i will in a month
[05:32] <ajmitch> note that the motu school is really for scheduled sessions, most discussion is still in #ubuntu-motu
[05:32] <gangalino> what's the deal?
[05:32] <apokryphos> ozgurgerilla: xchat, konversation, kvirc, ksirc, irssi etc etc...
[05:33] <Pygi> gangalino: you cant paste....
[05:33] <andrew_> ozgurgerilla, there are many.  xchat, gaim, irssi, some for kde... (i use gaim)
[05:33] <gangalino> I can paste
[05:33] <apokryphos> gangalino: please read the /topic -- don't paste in here. Use a pastebin service.
[05:33] <Pygi> andrew_: you won't use Gaim for long... :)
[05:33] <gangalino> it's already pasted, how about an answer for the question
[05:33] <Pygi> gangalino: no, you can't paste....
[05:33] <Pygi> !pastebin
[05:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:33] <gangalino> I'M NOT PASTING
[05:33] <gnomefreak> gangalino, pasting in here will not get you answered
[05:33] <Pygi> do not use caps, please...
[05:33] <gangalino> IT'S ALREADY BEEN PASTED, IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN FORGIVE ME!
[05:33] <topyli> Pygi: gaim usage depends on... well, usage.
[05:33] <apokryphos> gangalino: drop the caps.
[05:33] <gangalino> man up in here
[05:33] <Pygi> do not caps :P
[05:34] <andrew_> Pygi, i prefer gaim to xchat, actually.  again, i'm no noob. ^_^
[05:34] <MickMcMack> O_o
[05:34] <gangalino> man up
[05:34] <Pygi> andrew: no, you'll be using another app :D just wait and see :)
[05:34] <gnomefreak> gangalino, no take what you got paste it to pastebina nd if someone knows they will be glad to help you
[05:34] <Pygi> huh, thanks apokryphos
[05:34] <Kindred> irc on gaim is horrible. :) to me at least.
[05:34] <topyli> Pygi: lots of IM buddies, less irc stuff -> gaim. otherwise, a decent irc client and bitlbee
[05:34] <andrew_> Pygi, i'm not understanding you. :P
[05:34] <Pygi> andrew: yes, I know you don't :P Nobody understands, not just yet :P
[05:35] <markus-_-> morning
[05:35] <topyli> andrew_: do you have lots of IM buddies on MSN, yahoo and other networks?
[05:35] <Pygi> topyli: iirsi rules for irc :) but just wait :)
[05:35] <andrew_> topyli, i actually use IRC more than other IM protocols.
[05:35] <markus-_-> is there a way to reconfigure x automatically after i installed another video card?
[05:35] <apokryphos> markus-_-: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is good
[05:35] <topyli> andrew_: then you might be happier with a good irc client and bitlbee to chat to your IM buddies
[05:36] <pepsi> :(
[05:36] <gnomefreak> i use x-chat bitchx-gtk bitchx sometimes very very few times i use iirsi
[05:36] <pepsi> i guess i have to edit xorg.conf myself to use a dual-head setup?
[05:36] <Rapierian> 00000
[05:36] <topyli> andrew_: http://www.bitlbee.org/main.php/news.html
[05:36] <gnomefreak> apokryphos,  i used to love that
[05:36] <andrew_> topyli, i rather like GAIM.  the only things i don't like about its IRC stuff is that it doesn't remember the size of the window (easily corrected via devilspie) and that i can't turn off the userlist globally.
[05:36] <gnomefreak> than i found lostirc :))
[05:36] <markus-_-> okies
[05:36] <Pygi> and*
[05:37] <andrew_> Pygi: "just for now"... you're toying with us!
[05:37] <markus-_-> it gives me a driver choice screen
[05:37] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: haven't seen any other client with the same customizability, and other convenientisms. It's really great :)
[05:37] <topyli> andrew_: doesn't gaim-irc-helper (or whatsitsname) help?
[05:37] <markus-_-> i just put in a nvidia card
[05:37] <Pygi> apokryphos: just wait :)
[05:37] <markus-_-> but it didn't default to nvidia
[05:37] <andrew_> topyli, a plugin?
[05:37] <markus-_-> should i choose the driver it chose?
[05:37] <Pygi> hehe :)
[05:37] <apokryphos> Markbb-: what do you mean?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, very true but to use it you have to have kde base installed
[05:37] <gnomefreak> im not doing that in dapper again
[05:37] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: indeed; you don't? Low on space?
[05:38] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop screwed my dapper up already
[05:38] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: kde's running well for me in dapper.
[05:38] <gnomefreak> it killed my gnome menu
[05:38] <topyli> andrew_: gaim-irchelper in universe. it adds some configuration options to gaim's prefs
[05:38] <apokryphos> haven't logged into gnome with this, might soon.
[05:38] <Pygi> topyli: gaim, gaim, gaim, and gaim all the time :P
[05:38] <gnomefreak> i have it on my breezy install
[05:38] <greenpenguin13> gnomefreak: ur menu doesnt come up?
[05:39] <andrew_> topyli, that probably would help a lot!  cheers.
[05:39] <topyli> andrew_: like, you can suppress join/part messages and other noise that channels like this produce
[05:39] <topyli> Pygi: lol
[05:39] <andrew_> topyli, yes, a lot of noise in this channel.
[05:39] <gnomefreak> greenpenguin13, i reinstalled dapper but no the applications menu would comeup for a split sec than go away
[05:39] <topyli> Pygi: mind you, i don't even use it but i did use to :)
[05:39] <Pygi> topyli: hehe :)
[05:40] <greenpenguin13> gnomefreak: ive fixed this one...
[05:40] <gnomefreak> there was a fix to it?
[05:40] <gnomefreak> i tried everything i knew to fix it :(
[05:40] <markus-_-> so once i have run the x config what then?
[05:40] <Pygi> markus: huh, configure it?
[05:40] <topyli> andrew_: the package is called gaim-irchelper
[05:40] <markus-_-> i did
[05:40] <markus-_-> then what
[05:41] <markus-_-> it brings me back to shell
[05:41] <andrew_> topyli, ook
[05:41] <greenpenguin13> "apt-get install menu"  or "apt-get install menu-xdg"
[05:41] <Pygi> restart x? :)
[05:41] <gnomefreak> i was doing metacity and ubuntu-desktop :((
[05:41] <Pygi> ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:41] <markus-_-> how do i do that from shell
[05:41] <Rapierian> is brctl incompatible with ndiswrapper?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> didnt even think about menu :((
[05:42] <Pygi> markus: huh, ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:42] <gobbo> hi ppl, i really do have a problem with my locles. whenever i apt-get install foo something i get this "please check that your locale settings LANGUAGE="de_DE@euro" .... are supported ....
[05:42] <nomin> can anyone give me advice on how to fix this problem:  "Duplicate or bad block in use!"
[05:42] <markus-_-> thats not doing much but beeping at me Pygi
[05:42] <gnomefreak> gobbo,  on dapper?
[05:42] <Pygi> markus: huh, then "startx "
[05:42] <gobbo> i already tried dpkg-reconfigure locales ... but nothing changes
[05:42] <gnomefreak> gobbo,  are you on dapper?
[05:43] <gobbo> gnomefreak, dapper?
[05:43] <gobbo> what u mean
[05:43] <gnomefreak> what version of ubuntu do you have?
[05:43] <topyli> i guess not :)
[05:43] <markus-_-> kewl
[05:43] <gnomefreak> lol topyli
[05:43] <gobbo> gnomefreak, breezy
[05:43] <gobbo> sorry
[05:43] <markus-_-> thanks
[05:43] <markus-_-> it's running now
[05:43] <ossie> gnomefreak, do u know where i can download the complete dapper iso???
[05:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ossie about dapper
[05:43] <Pygi> !dapper
[05:43] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[05:44] <gnomefreak> ossie,  its still tempermental
[05:44] <ozgurgerilla> is freenode server the best for free softwares?
[05:44] <ossie> np
[05:44] <topyli> ossie: no isos are available until very close to dapper release
[05:44] <gnomefreak> reconfiguring the locales should have fixed any locales issue if you did it right
[05:44] <enkrav> Hi, I installed java-gtk-dev and did $gcj -C First.java. I get the error       First.java:4: error: Class or interface org.gnu.gtk.Gtk not found in import.
[05:44] <enkrav>        Do I have to set some environment variables?
[05:44] <Pygi> ozgurgerilla: huh, what a question :P
[05:45] <omfg> can someone paste wat i said like 10mins ago
[05:45] <omfg> plz
[05:45] <omfg> name Draken
[05:45] <gobbo> gnomefreak, well, what else should i do besides dpkg-reconfigure locales and select de_DE@euro for a german envirenment?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> pssst topyli  hope noone hears me but didnt i download the iso burn it and install it?
[05:45] <andrew_> ozgurgerilla, how do you mean that?  for IRC channels of free software projects?
[05:45] <ozgurgerilla> lol
[05:45] <Karyook> Hello, I just installed ubuntu
[05:45] <Karyook> How to mount the usb ?
[05:45] <Kyral> Welcome to the Light Side ;P
[05:45] <gnomefreak> gobbo,  what errors are you getting?
[05:45] <Pygi> kyral: heheh :)
[05:46] <topyli> gnomefreak: i guess they must exist then. damn i hate being wrong! =)
[05:46] <gnomefreak> lol topyli
[05:46] <Pygi> lol :)
[05:46] <gnomefreak> for newbies they dont
[05:46] <gnomefreak> keep them safe
[05:46] <Karyook> How to mount the usb ? My harddisk is /dev/sda, I don`t have /dev/sdb..f
[05:47] <gobbo> gnomefreak, i messed u the erros privately in order not to flood the channel
[05:47] <gobbo> messaged
[05:47] <gnomefreak> gobbo, use pastebin
[05:47] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:47] <ozgurgerilla> guys, how limited is the live cd then the installation?
[05:47] <omfg> gnomefreak, do u know where i can get the latest nvidia-glx ?
[05:47] <Pygi> k
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ozgurgerilla, you cant install ubuntu from livecd
[05:47] <Pygi> omfg: in repositories? :)
[05:47] <_rYe_> u have both windows xp and ubuntu in my laptop... how do i fix the time? cause when i use ubuntu, then use windows afterwards, when i login to ubuntu again, the time is wrong. it gets changed. how do i fix this? thanks
[05:47] <Karyook> gnomefreak, any idea on my question ?
[05:47] <madgik85> debaR : i got the videos to play properly through VLC, thanks for the help :)
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell omfg about nvidia
[05:48] <Pygi> rYe: uninstall Windows :)
[05:48] <omfg> err gnomefreak
[05:48] <ozgurgerilla> gnomefreak: freak i know that. i mean what can u do on the installation that you cannot do in the livecd?
[05:48] <gnomefreak> Karyook, no i dont
[05:48] <omfg> apt-get install nvidia-glx doesnt work
[05:48] <gobbo> gnomefreak, sorry, i did so
[05:48] <omfg> the site that hosts it or something is down
[05:48] <gnomefreak> ozgurgerilla, install things
[05:48] <Pygi> omfg: installed repositories?
[05:48] <BullFire> when I tipe:   lsmod | grep ipg
[05:48] <Pygi> !nvidia
[05:48] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:48] <omfg> Pygi, got them all
[05:48] <Pygi> ubotu: tell omfg about nvidia
[05:49] <andrew_> topyli, am i missing something?  the irchelper plugin doesn't seem to offer any preferences, just a few transparent niceties....
[05:49] <sorush20> guys where is there a recommended ubuntu source list ?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> i did that already :(
[05:49] <BullFire> when I tipe:   lsmod | grep ipg   i get: ipg        14852  0
[05:49] <Pygi> sorush: recommeded list for what??
[05:49] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sorush20 about sources
[05:49] <BullFire> what does that mean?
[05:49] <omfg> can u ppl plz stop telling the bot nvidia
[05:49] <omfg> i have read that shit 100 times
[05:49] <andrew_> omfg, then maybe your question should be a bit more specific?
[05:49] <omfg> apt-get install nvidia, kynoptics and adept all cant get the headers for it
[05:49] <Pygi> andrew: don't use Gaim....ise heh....
[05:49] <Karyook> How to mount the usb ? My harddisk is /dev/sda, I don`t have /dev/sdb..f
[05:49] <_rYe_> u have both windows xp and ubuntu in my laptop... how do i fix the time? cause when i use ubuntu, then use windows afterwards, when i login to ubuntu again, the time is wrong. it gets changed. how do i fix this? thanks
[05:49] <topyli> andrew_: i seem to remember seeing new stuff in gaim prefs after installing it. namely, i was glad to find something like "hide join/part messages" or such
[05:50] <gnomefreak> omfg, watch your language and omfg if you read it and understood it they would be working
[05:50] <omfg> gnomefreak
[05:50] <omfg> DUDE
[05:50] <omfg> try
[05:50] <omfg> i read that thing 100 times
[05:50] <omfg> i got it printed out
[05:50] <Pygi> ok, calm down :P
[05:50] <topyli> andrew_: maybe you need to restart gaim
[05:50] <sportman> hey
[05:50] <omfg> i need a html or ftp link for the file
[05:50] <sportman> i was trying to set up graphics acceleration
[05:50] <omfg> its not coming through on adept or anything
[05:50] <Pygi> sportman: what card?
[05:50] <sportman> and somehow i broke my xserver
[05:50] <andrew_> topyli, done and done.  not seeing anything.  i'll look on the other pref sections.
[05:50] <sportman> ati radeon 9600
[05:51] <Pygi> huh, k , just a moment...
[05:51] <sportman> mobility
[05:51] <sportman> yea
[05:51] <gobbo> anyone read my locales problem on paste.ubuntu.org?
[05:51] <Pygi> ubotu: tell sportman about ATI
[05:51] <sportman> but i broke xserve
[05:51] <nomin> I can't boot into ubuntu.  The error message I'm getting is this: "Duplicate or bad block in use!" and "there are 2 inodes containing mulitply-claimed blocks".  Does anyone know what caused this and how I can fix it?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> sportman, did you install the ati drivers for it?
[05:51] <sportman> so i need to fix it
[05:51] <sportman> yea
[05:51] <jrenato> \j #unbuntu -r
[05:51] <topyli> andrew_: seems like i have gaim still installed for some reason. let me see :)
[05:51] <sportman> then i ran flgrxconfig
[05:51] <jrenato> \j #unbuntu-br
[05:51] <sportman> rebooted and x doesnt work anymore
[05:51] <apokryphos> jrenato: /j #ubuntu-br
[05:51] <andrew_> topyli, so you don't use/like gaim at all?
[05:51] <BullFire> when I tipe:   lsmod | grep ipg   i get: ipg        14852  0   what does that mean?
[05:51] <Pygi> I'll cry :P Everyone is using Gaim :/
[05:51] <Pygi> sportman: sudo dexconf
[05:51] <omfg> even check here
[05:51] <omfg> ftp://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/archive/pool/restricted/n/
[05:51] <omfg> its not anywhere
[05:52] <gnomefreak> sportman, did you config xserver-xorg by chance?
[05:52] <topyli> andrew_: i've forced all my friends to use irc :)
[05:52] <Pygi> omfg: maybe seveas has a solution for you :)
[05:52] <Pygi> ubotu: tell omfg about seveas
[05:52] <sportman> i thinik i did gnomefr
[05:52] <sportman> but i suppose i configured it wrong?
[05:52] <gib8> knows someone how i can mount lvm-partitions?
[05:52] <Pygi> sportman: start "dexconf"
[05:52] <sportman> ok
[05:52] <Pygi> with sudo...
[05:53] <bipolar> does anyone else have a problem with dapper and the fglrx drivers causing a kernel oops when X closes?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> sportman, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:53] <sportman> pygi im in root anyways
[05:53] <sportman> do i need sudo
[05:53] <Pygi> gnomefreak: dexconf should work as well
[05:53] <andrew_> topyli, it doesn't seem to offer anything relating to window size or the user list at all...
[05:53] <Pygi> sportman: no
[05:53] <gnomefreak> ok ty pgy
[05:53] <Pygi> heh :P
[05:53] <gnomefreak> Pygi, *
[05:53] <topyli> andrew_: see if you have irc helper enabled in prefs -> plugins
[05:53] <rev> bipolar: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=113429835515001&w=2
[05:53] <Pygi> gnomefreak: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is way better, but takes longer for average user :p
[05:54] <ltibor65_> Guys, when was the explain Of Shuttleworth about Ubuntu? In which year? It is on video.
[05:54] <topyli> andrew_: it doesn't necessarily do those. in fact, i'm quite sure it doesn't help with the window size thing at all
[05:54] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  it does kinda take a while i never used any other way tho
[05:54] <topyli> andrew_: it's useful anyway if you use gaim for irc
[05:54] <Pygi> gnomefreak: dexconf is something like "dirty hack"
[05:54] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh
[05:54] <Pygi> open your xorg.conf and see what is says at beginning of the file :P
[05:55] <gnomefreak> dirty hacks are fun!!!!!!!!!!
[05:55] <omfg> wtf is going on
[05:55] <omfg> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/
[05:55] <omfg> noone has the file
[05:55] <Delvien> Mcjerry you there?
[05:55] <Pygi> omfg: please watch your language...thanks
[05:55] <McJerry> ya man
[05:55] <Pygi> there is a lot people in here that need help, so wait in line...
[05:55] <hunika> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[05:55] <terroirist> Does anyone know why NetworkManager will not connect to open wireless connections?
[05:55] <Delvien> Mcjerry it runs in kernal 9, :P
[05:55] <cello_rasp> i need some help installing an mplayer theme: according to the instructions the skin goes in /home/$user/.mplayer/skin/$skinname. yet mplayer can't find it. argh
[05:55] <gnomefreak> hes kinda far away he left :(
[05:55] <McJerry> Delvien: cool......
[05:56] <Delvien> mcjerry , too bad in 9 i dont have ANY wireless, any sound, and its laggy as hell
[05:56] <gobbo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6451
[05:56] <topyli> andrew_: sorry, some of what i've been talking about are in the gaim-extendedprefs package :(
[05:56] <bipolar> rev: I'm getting a server timeout on that url. is there a copy?
[05:56] <McJerry> Delvien: can you pm me again
[05:57] <andrew_> topyli, no matter.  i'll check that one out too. :)
[05:57] <rev> bipolar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6452
[05:57] <Delvien> mcjerry  diaglog is open
[05:57] <gobbo> any idea anyone
[05:57] <omfg> can someone explain to me why not one source has nvidia-glx
[05:57] <Pygi> topyli: do not suggest usage of gaim :)
[05:57] <bipolar> rev: thank you!
[05:57] <jhenn> i can't get this nautilus script working
[05:57] <Pygi> no, dont paste here :P
[05:57] <andrew_> Pygi, why do you hate it so much?
[05:57] <omfg> is it like a MASS call back or something
[05:58] <topyli> Pygi: i'm not! he's using it already :)
[05:58] <gnomefreak> omfg,  did you enable universe and multiverse repos?
[05:58] <Pygi> topyli: ok, then don't encourage him to use it :P
[05:58] <topyli> heh
[05:58] <topyli> andrew_: get a real irc client :)
[05:58] <omfg> gnomefreak, firstly its in restricted, second yes, and third not even google has it
[05:58] <Pygi> andrew: there is a time and place for everything :) and time is still to come :)
[05:58] <Pygi> andres: seah egan??
[05:59] <Pygi> omfg: and like google is all powerful LOL :P
[05:59] <andrew_> Pygi, the gaim dev that was recently hired by google.
[05:59] <sportman> alright
[05:59] <sportman> i ran through that
[05:59] <sportman> should i just trpe start x
[05:59] <omfg> if one of u find the latest nvidia-glx
[05:59] <Pygi> andrew: what with him ? :P
[05:59] <omfg> ill call u a dog
[05:59] <omfg> erf
[05:59] <omfg> god
[05:59] <sportman> yey x works
[05:59] <andrew_> Pygi, but if you're not going to suggest anything better or why you hate gaim so much, i can't take your suggestion. :-P
[05:59] <Pygi> sportman: see? great
[06:00] <sportman> failed to intialize hal
[06:00] <Pygi> andrew: I can't suggest it yet....time will tell :P
[06:00] <sportman> what does that mean
[06:00] <topyli> andrew_: good hackers tend to get hired well :)
[06:00] <andrew_> topyli, actually i've heard otherwise about gaim's codebase, but maybe it's not just him.
[06:01] <andrew_> Pygi, can we talk in PM or are you just tight-lipped?
[06:01] <Pygi> why do you wanna talk on PM? hehe :)
[06:01] <apokryphos> can't imagine how much Guido is getting, from Google!
[06:01] <Pygi> omfg: how is that I found nvidia-glx?
[06:01] <topyli> andrew_: i'm no expert on gaim's history, but obviously sean didn't write it alone of course
[06:01] <gnomefreak> <<<found alot of nvidia drivers/kernel files but im not on breezy
[06:01] <sportman> wowsomething went extreamly wrong
[06:01] <andrew_> Pygi, because you're obviously not saying anything in here ^_^
[06:01] <sportman> glx gears moves like 1 frame per second
[06:01] <gnomefreak> Pygi, cause you used apt-cache search
[06:01] <omfg> gnomefreak
[06:01] <Pygi> andrew: fire away, what do you want to know ? :P
[06:01] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:01] <omfg> they not the latest
[06:02] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :P
[06:02] <andrew_> Pygi, but if you're programming something in python/gtk, i may be interested... :)
[06:02] <gnomefreak> ummmmmm omfg  in dapper they are the latest
[06:02] <Pygi> omfg: and you need lastest for what? :P
[06:02] <sportman> and when i type glxgears it says extension "XFree86-DRI" Missing on display":0.0".
[06:02] <flogiston> I can't start gnome-system-monitor.
[06:02] <omfg> gnomefreak
[06:02] <andrew_> Pygi, the latest nvidia driver corrects a lot.
[06:02] <omfg> i want the one im MENT to get from apt-get
[06:02] <omfg> Pygi
[06:02] <andrew_> omfg, maybe check the backports?  dunno if that'd be in there.
[06:02] <omfg> my graphics card is new
[06:02] <flogiston> It's not running, checked with ps aux | grep gnome-system-monitor.
[06:02] <Pygi> andrew: yes, I am programming something in python/gtk but not what you think :P
[06:03] <omfg> cant stay in X11 for longer then 20mins
[06:03] <gnomefreak> andrew they might
[06:03] <omfg> before it crashs
[06:03] <andrew_> Pygi, ok, so what is it?
[06:03] <omfg> need drivers
[06:03] <n3x> What is the latest Ubuntu Release?
[06:03] <n3x> Hoary?
[06:03] <Pygi> omfg: then use dapper repositories :P
[06:03] <omfg> breezy ?
[06:03] <gnomefreak> breezy- stable latest
[06:03] <andrew_> omfg, could you speak in complete sentences?
[06:03] <n3x> ok thanks
[06:03] <andrew_> omfg, this
[06:03] <andrew_> is
[06:03] <omfg> nope soz andrew_, im from south africa
[06:03] <andrew_> very
[06:03] <gnomefreak> !enter
[06:03] <omfg> we dont
[06:03] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[06:03] <andrew_> annoying
[06:04] <Pygi> andrew: huh, you mean what's the python/gtk thingy? "just" newsgroup reader, nothing spectacular....
[06:04] <andrew_> gnomefreak, ^_^
[06:04] <n3x> Is there a mirror i can get it from ( can only seem to find DVD images )
[06:04] <flogiston> How do i run a program and make a log out of it?
[06:04] <andrew_> Pygi, ah, ok.
[06:04] <Pygi> !breezy
[06:04] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:04] <andrew_> Pygi, what's this other thing you keep hinting at?
[06:04] <Pygi> andrew: but I am doing number of things, but as I said, nothin' ready tobe out :)
[06:05] <Pygi> to be out*
[06:05] <topyli> flogiston: that question will be taken outside and shot. what do you mean?
[06:05] <nyuu> I don't know why, but Visualboy Advance has errors whenever it tries to save files. The only idea I had was that my permissions may have been incorrect. I tried writing to ~/  and I tried saving as root. The file I'm running is owned by my user.  The only status message in the terminal is "Error creating file /root/.vba/craftswordgao1.sgm"  Does anyone know by what the error could be caused?
[06:05] <n3x> Ok last question: Is there a Ubuntu Release for XEON with IA64 Support
[06:05] <Pygi> nothing actually works YET :P
[06:05] <sportman> and when i type glxgears it says extension "XFree86-DRI" Missing on display":0.0".
[06:05] <andrew_> Pygi, oh, bah humbug to you.
[06:05] <sportman> any idea why?
[06:05] <Pygi> andrew: huh :)
[06:05] <JohnnyO> Greetings everyone
[06:05] <maswan> n3x: no xeon has ia64 support
[06:06] <Pygi> andrew: why are you interested in that so much? :p
[06:06] <n3x> i mean EMT634
[06:06] <andrew_> JohnnyO, we'll go slow.
[06:06] <n3x> EMT64
[06:06] <maswan> n3x: yes, that's the same as amd64, look for the amd64 release
[06:06] <epitk> habe das gleiche problem wie hier einer gepastet hat: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/210 finde aber keine passende lsung in google
[06:06] <Pygi> Johnny0: huh, stand in line :P
[06:06] <Pygi> epitk: english please
[06:06] <andrew_> Pygi, you've piqued my curiosity.
[06:06] <n3x> maswan: so the AMD ver will Work fine on a Intel?
[06:06] <JohnnyO> figured as much Pygi
[06:06] <JohnnyO> lol
[06:06] <maswan> n3x: yeah, they are compatible
[06:06] <n3x> ok cool
[06:06] <n3x> thanks
[06:07] <Pygi> n3x: 100% compatibility :)
[06:07] <topyli> JohnnyO: you can ask your question. perhaps someone will know what to do with your problems
[06:07] <maswan> n3x: http://releases.ubuntu.com/breezy/
[06:07] <rev> Is there a way to get rid of the /lib/modules/2.6.15-10-386/volatile directory in the latest dapper kernel?
[06:07] <markus-_-> will i have to run x configure if i change monitors?
[06:07] <maswan> n3x: that says a bit about what the arches are for etc
[06:07] <andrew_> epitk, ich kann mit dir in #ubuntu-de sprechen, aber mein deutsch ist nicht am bestens.
[06:07] <Pygi> johnny0: ok, fire away :P
[06:07] <JohnnyO> Thanks
[06:07] <n3x> Wow.. im a reald debian only guy seems theres alot more Decent support and help with ubuntu : Thanks guys
[06:07] <omfg> can someone plz just search up, look for wat Draken said when he joined ?
[06:07] <Pygi> n3x: np :)
[06:07] <epitk> andrew_ english is ok
[06:07] <JohnnyO> Buddy of mine Leroy Clark finally convinced me to goto Ubuntu from Windblows
[06:07] <Pygi> n3x: enjoy :)
[06:08] <JohnnyO> been running it for 2-3 weeks now exclusively
[06:08] <n3x> will do
[06:08] <epitk> andrew_ what can i do. to solve the problem?
[06:08] <markus-_-> will i have to rerun the x configure if i switch monitors?
[06:08] <n3x> Downloading AMD64 now
[06:08] <omfg> can someone plz just search up, look for wat Draken said when he joined ?
[06:08] <PeteyPablo> anyone here use win4lin ?
[06:08] <_rYe_> problem w/ wireless: i now see wlan0 in networks. i have chosen the right network name already but wireless doesnt work
[06:08] <Kyral> PeteyPablo: nope
[06:08] <JohnnyO> can't get it to boot into GNOME for some reason now
[06:08] <andrew_> epitk, ah, ok.  looks like you need a newer package of libqt3c102-mt
[06:08] <JohnnyO> only CLI
[06:08] <Pygi> Johnny0: you mean X server wont run
[06:08] <Pygi> ?
[06:08] <JohnnyO> yes
[06:08] <gnomefreak> JohnnyO, try startx
[06:09] <zuka> Need help with totem audio player with Ubuntu linux?
[06:09] <omfg> can someone plz just search up, look for wat Draken said when he joined ?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> it will either start gnome or it will error out
[06:09] <sportman> yea i just tried running tuxracer
[06:09] <JohnnyO> It comes up with the ubuntu splash screen - then goes back to CLIE
[06:09] <Pygi> omfg: wait :P
[06:09] <sportman> to try a game
[06:09] <sportman> after i recongiured
[06:09] <gnomefreak> JohnnyO, yuck :(((
[06:09] <Pygi> gnomefreak: suggest him a X server reconfigure :P
[06:09] <markus-_-> do you know Pygi ..... will i have to rerun x server config if i switch out monitors?
[06:09] <sportman> and yea, it runs about 10fps if that, ... raelly slow
[06:09] <epitk> andrew_ i just look up  my package version... but i think it is even newer
[06:09] <andrew_> omfg, all i have is you asking about him.
[06:09] <zuka> Were can i find help for ubuntu?
[06:09] <Pygi> markus: yes, if you want everything to work well :P
[06:09] <Pygi> zuka: here :p
[06:09] <markus-_-> k
[06:09] <omfg> can someone plz just search up, look for wat Draken said when he joined ?
[06:10] <markus-_-> thanks
[06:10] <gnomefreak> JohnnyO, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:10] <Pygi> Pygi, Pygi, Pygi...what about other peeps here? :)
[06:10] <andrew_> epitk, you have 3.3.3, but you need 3.3.3.2.  the -7 is an ubuntu thing.
[06:10] <gnomefreak> JohnnyO,  run that command and make sure everything is correct than reboot or restartx either way
[06:10] <Pygi> omfg: can you please stop, thanks :P
[06:10] <JohnnyO> This happened after I went on a package installation freinzy
[06:10] <omfg> Pygi
[06:10] <omfg> plz just scroll up
[06:10] <omfg> and get it
[06:10] <omfg> takes 10secs
[06:10] <epitk> andrew_ ok :) where can i get this one?
[06:10] <andrew_> !enter
[06:10] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[06:11] <jason> I'm having a strange issue:  I installed apache2 package and all its dependencies, but have no /etc/init.d/apache2 so I tried to install apache and its dependencies, and no /etc/init.d/apache.  If I do a dpkg -L apache, I see htat it should contain /etc/init.d/apache.  The init.d is 755, so that's not a problem.  Any suggestions?
[06:11] <Pygi> omfg: where is it?
[06:11] <andrew_> epitk, dunno.  i don't use ubuntu that much.
[06:11] <omfg> when Draken entered
[06:11] <omfg> he said something
[06:11] <andrew_> omfg, please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[06:11] <Pygi> jason: you need apache-common as well :P
[06:11] <epitk> andrew_ np! but thank you for your help
[06:11] <jason> Pygi, it get's installed as a dependency
[06:11] <jason> gets*
[06:12] <andrew_> epitk, sure.  maybe try the backports?  newer versions of some things end up there.
[06:12] <jason> ive never seen anything like this happen.. really strange
[06:12] <pinkisntwell> why is ubuntu firefox the slower program on earth?
[06:12] <Pygi> pink: huh?
[06:12] <Pygi> omfg: sorry, can't find it :/
[06:12] <markus-_-> why when do i get an error message not that i have added extra repositories
[06:12] <omfg> arg ;/
[06:12] <markus-_-> have the url's of those repositories changed?
[06:13] <csb> hi where is the best place to ask questions on Perl programming?
[06:13] <sorush20> is mplayer available in breezy
[06:13] <Pygi> csb: #perl :)
[06:13] <Pygi> sorush: yes
[06:13] <andrew_> markus-_-, where did you get them?
[06:13] <Pygi> andrew: wanna help? :)
[06:13] <csb> thanks pygi
[06:13] <andrew_> Pygi, how?
[06:13] <markus-_-> used synaptic packet manager to enable them
[06:13] <jason> The package contains /etc/init.d/apache, just extract it manually..
[06:13] <apokryphos> !tell sorush20 about mplayer
[06:13] <Pygi> andrew: well, you know C? :)
[06:13] <andrew_> Pygi, no, unfortunately not.
[06:13] <Pygi> andrew: huh :P
[06:13] <andrew_> markus-_-, can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:13] <jason> does apt have a log?
[06:14] <andrew_> jason, i'm sure it does... maybe in /var/log?
[06:14] <xored> someone a tip, on which to set the po3 quota as maximum ?
[06:14] <Pygi> andrey: k, then you could help with ideas :P
[06:14] <_rYe_> how do i make my wifi work? pls help
[06:14] <andrew_> Pygi, ideas for what?
[06:15] <Pygi> rYe: use ndiswrapper :)
[06:15] <Pygi> andrew: for the APP :P Don't ask what kind :)
[06:15] <omfg> err guys, does kconv have a log ?
[06:15] <markus-_-> do you want me to paste it in here andrew_ ?
[06:15] <Pygi> markus: no, not here :P
[06:15] <andrew_> markus-_-, no, that's why i said pastebin. :)
[06:15] <markus-_-> where?
[06:15] <jason> andrew_: checked there, couldn't find it
[06:15] <Pygi> ubotu: tell markus-_- about pastebin
[06:15] <markus-_-> i don't know what pastebin is
[06:15] <andrew_> ubotu, tell markus-_- about pastebin.
[06:15] <omfg> err guys, does kconv have a log ?\\
[06:15] <Pygi> I told him :/
[06:15] <Pygi> omfg: yesss
[06:15] <_rYe_> Pygi: i made it work a while ago, when i opend ubuntu again. wifi isnt working anymore.
[06:15] <omfg> where is it ?
[06:16] <Pygi> in /var/logs  somethin' ?
[06:16] <jhenn> can someone help me get a nautilus script work?
[06:16] <omfg> lol
[06:16] <andrew_> omfg, you didn't even check if you had a log before spamming everyone?  omfg!
[06:16] <omfg> i doubt its there Pygi ;P
[06:16] <_rYe_> Pygi: wlan0 is active and i have chosen the right network name... what happened? what would i do? please help. i really need this to work
[06:16] <PeteyPablo> anyone here use win4lin ?
[06:16] <omfg> andrew_, because i dont see it there
[06:16] <zuka> Pygi, i tried to contact you are you available
[06:16] <andrew_> omfg, probably in ~ somewhere.
[06:16] <Pygi> zuka: what do you need? I am busy, but shoot :P
[06:17] <markus-_-> okies i think i did that right
[06:17] <andrew_> ubotu, tell me about wireless
[06:17] <Pygi> rYe: huh, no signal or somethin'
[06:17] <zuka> having trouble with totem, will not play  any files..thanks
[06:17] <Pygi> zuka: huh, you need codecs
[06:17] <Pygi> !codecs
[06:17] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[06:17] <zuka> thanks Pygi
[06:18] <Pygi> !easysource
[06:18] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:18] <Pygi> !mp3
[06:18] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:18] <zuka> how to download codecs?
[06:18] <zuka> thanks
[06:18] <Pygi> go to the last page ubotu told you :P
[06:18] <andrew_> ubotu, tell _rYe_ about wireless.
[06:18] <markus-_-> what now andrew_ ?
[06:18] <Pygi> anyone else needs help? :)
[06:18] <zuka> what does p: mean?
[06:18] <_rYe_> Pygi: wifi doesnt work. signal is excellent
[06:18] <andrew_> markus-_-, give me the pastebin link? :-P
[06:18] <Pygi> andrew: lol :p
[06:19] <markus-_-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6454
[06:19] <zuka> thanks Pygi
[06:19] <Pygi> rYe: huh, if wify  doesn't work, how do you have a signal? :/
[06:19] <Pygi> zuka: yw
[06:19] <andrew_> Pygi, i can help with ideas for what?
[06:19] <gnomefreak> Markus the mirror max backports dont work
[06:19] <Pygi> andrew: app I am doin' :P
[06:20] <JohnnyO> be back from Windblows if this doesn't work :)
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[06:38] (Pygi/#ubuntu) Apokryphos: what happened? :/
[06:38] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) Pygi, he can only take so much thats why people have been baned from playing with him
[06:39] (Pygi/#ubuntu) gnomefreak:  I just typed /msg ubotu help :/
[06:39] (Signifer123/#ubuntu) ubotu went off
[06:39] (apokryphos/#ubuntu) :/
[06:39] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) ok markus-_-  i want you to take everythiong out of your sources.list file everything
[06:39] (apokryphos/#ubuntu) cafuego: ping
[06:39] (Pygi/#ubuntu) that must has to do somethin' with fabbione's server :/
[06:39] (markus-_-/#ubuntu) okes
[06:40] (Pygi/#ubuntu) huh, apokryphos, should I try sending him message again or rather not? :/
[06:40] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) after that take my sources.list and paste it in there
[06:40] (markus-_-/#ubuntu) done
[06:40] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) ok no more cdrom repos?
[06:40] (fabbione/#ubuntu) Pygi: no, i only manage ubuntuloh
[06:40] <fabbione> ubuntulog
[06:40] <Signifer123> then why not see if you can have others run more ubotu's to distribute the load?
[06:40] <Pygi> fabbione: huh, k
[06:40] <fabbione> the other one i have no idea
[06:40] <apokryphos> Pygi: /msg ubotu help    ...wouldn't bring an excess flood
[06:41] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, unless everyone did it at once :((
[06:41] <apokryphos> Signifer123: why? He's on a decent server.
[06:41] <Pygi> apokryphos: well, that's all I did, and it excess flooded :/
[06:41] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: still
[06:41] <Delvien> How do i install a Kernal version if i do not see it in synaptic??
[06:41] <yohan> ive mounted a .img dvd file and I want to start the dvd with totem, how do i do that?
[06:41] <apokryphos> Delvien: you'll have to compile your own kernel
[06:41] <Delvien> apokryphos ugh, just trying to go back to a previous kernal.. But its not in synaptic
[06:42] <Delvien> apokryphos im in 2.6.15-10-386, i want to go back to 2.6.15-9-386
[06:42] <Signifer123> not even in force version?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> Delvien, what kernel are you on and what kernel are you wanting to go back to?
[06:42] <Delvien> gnomfreak what i said to apokryphos
[06:42] <gnomefreak> Delvien, in grub you will see your old kernel
[06:42] <Delvien> gnomefreak aye its there, but its borked. im wanting to reinstall it
[06:43] <newbie> does anyone know how to fix the system clock? im using both windows xp and ubuntu in my laptop. for example, im using windows now, then i change to ubuntu, when i go back to ubuntu, the system clock has a wrong time, it is changed. the same goes the other way around. pls help
[06:43] <gnomefreak> Delvien, whats wrong with the new one?
[06:43] <markus-_-> okies gnomefreak  this is what it says now
[06:43] <markus-_-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6457
[06:43] <Delvien> gnomefreak VMware doesnt work in 10
[06:43] <apokryphos> Delvien: well, it's removed then. And you shouldn't be using dapper 8)
[06:43] <Signifer123> @newbie is your timezone set right?
[06:43] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: win4lin is much better then wvmware
[06:43] <yohan> ive mounted a .img dvd file and I want to start the dvd with totem, how do i do that? nobody has any idea? any other player which is better?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  you still have the cdrom repos in there?
[06:44] <Delvien> PeteyPablo how is the speed and performance, USB supporT?
[06:44] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: looks good i'm using it now, and no sound issues like in vmware
[06:44] <markus-_-> no those lines have been removed
[06:44] <Delvien> Peyepable how is USB support?
[06:44] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: i don't have any usb devices
[06:44] <gnomefreak> paste the new sources list again please
[06:44] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: except my wireless mouse
[06:44] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: but i assume it's perfect?
[06:45] <markus-_-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6458
[06:45] <markus-_-> done
[06:45] <Delvien> PeteyPablo ill try it., What about networking??
[06:45] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: you can get the pro version + serial # it's a 4.1MB download :-)
[06:45] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: works fine
[06:46] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[06:46] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: it even comes with a .deb and installs perfectly
[06:46] <markus-_-> the latest version
[06:46] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping
[06:46] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  define latest version
[06:46] <gnomefreak> why are we pinging me?
[06:46] <Pygi> wait in line
[06:46] <Pygi> !wait in line
[06:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, wait in line is like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[06:46] <PeteyPablo> gnomefreak: pong
[06:46] <Delvien> Peteypablo is there a free version?
[06:46] <markus-_-> 5.10
[06:47] <Pygi> gnomefreak: see why?
[06:47] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: i don't know but you can get the pro version for free :-P
[06:47] <gnomefreak> ok markus-_-  and you have internet connection?
[06:47] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: want me to give you a link?
[06:47] <markus-_-> yea
[06:47] <Delvien> PeteyPablo please
[06:47] <Pygi> thanks for the help apokryphos :)
[06:47] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: you have a bittorrent client?
[06:47] <newbie> how do you fix the system clock?
[06:47] <Delvien> PeteyPablo yes
[06:47] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: ok one minute
[06:47] <Pygi> gnomefreak: do you see? :)
[06:47] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: i can just upload the .deb and serial for ya one second
[06:48] <gnomefreak> the wait in line?
[06:48] <Pygi> yesh :)
[06:48] <ITSa341> Happy New Year
[06:48] <newbie> Pygi: do you know how to fix the system clock?
[06:48] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, after you saved it you did run sudo apt-get update right?
[06:49] <markus-_-> no
[06:49] <Pygi> newbie: huh, what seems to be the problem? :P
[06:49] <Keegan_Witt> does anyone know if you can add fluxbox to ubuntu?
[06:49] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  you have to run apt-get update
[06:49] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update
[06:49] <Pygi> keegan: you can....
[06:49] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: ok im uploading it
[06:49] <tina> I am trying to get a Roland MIDI Keyboard to work, I see data coming in on /dev/midi how do i get sound out ?
[06:49] <Keegan_Witt> what repo is it on?
[06:49] <Pygi> newbie: what's the problem with the clock?
[06:49] <Kindred> !fluxbox
[06:49] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[06:49] <markus-_-> ahhhhh
[06:49] <Delvien> PeteyPablo how do i recieve it , hehe not that familiar with IRC
[06:49] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  better?
[06:50] <markus-_-> i think that is fixing it gnomefreak
[06:50] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: i will just give you a download link use firefox
[06:50] <markus-_-> gnomefreak, you rock....... thanks
[06:50] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  you have to update it after you change it
[06:50] <Delvien> PeteyPablo o doing it that way hehe kk thanks
[06:50] <markus-_-> i think i knew that..... but i'm still a newbie
[06:50] <evermuse> could anyone suggest an easy to use app for ripping vcds?
[06:50] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  you might get gpg errors but you can ignor ethose
[06:50] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: it's a .tar.gz just use archivemanager and their is a .deb inside you know how to use .deb's right?
[06:50] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: also the serial is included
[06:50] <Delvien> aye
[06:50] <Delvien> kk thank you
[06:50] <gnomefreak> Pygi, is someone waiting in line for me? or can i go smoke?
[06:51] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: im gonna send you the quickstart pdf also youll need it to know what todo
[06:51] <Pygi> gnome: huh, do you have to? I'll be alone answering then :P
[06:51] <gnomefreak> that last one markus-_-  he put my mind to a test :))
[06:51] <Pygi> ok, then go :) but come back :P
[06:51] <gnomefreak> ill brb 2 mintues
[06:51] <markus-_-> well your help is greatly appreciated gnomefreak
[06:52] <PeteyPablo> dok
[06:52] <markus-_-> i'm gonna become efficient in linux if its that last thing i do
[06:52] <JohnnyO> Ok
[06:52] <markus-_-> lol
[06:52] <PeteyPablo> ok*
[06:52] <JohnnyO> that got me back into the desktop world :)
[06:52] <Pygi> markus: hehe :)
[06:52] <Pygi> Johny: huh?
[06:52] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: ok http://home.comcast.net/~elitepete/Win4LinPro.6.0.9.tar.gz
[06:52] <Pygi> markus: huh :P
[06:53] <markus-_-> okies i gotta eat something
[06:53] <markus-_-> bbiab
[06:53] <Pygi> bon apetit
[06:53] <spikeh> after following the tutorial on upgrading Firefox to 1.5 on UbuntuWiki, I'm getting an error message "could not initialize the browser's security component"
[06:54] <Pygi> andrew: ping
[06:54] <gnomefreak> it kind of makes you wonder why you cant get FF1.5 in the repos :))
[06:54] <Hericus> andrew: pong
[06:54] <Pygi> gnomefreak: I compiled it on my own, and works ok :P
[06:54] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: got everything you need?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  yes i know i used it to but it has a tendency of messing up
[06:54] <rev> sethk: I solved it
[06:55] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :P
[06:55] <yohan> ive mounted a .img dvd file and I want to start the dvd with totem, how do i do that?
[06:55] <Pygi> btw. gnomefreak look at my away message and go there :P
[06:55] <PeteyPablo> i'm using ff1.5 i have 0 problems
[06:55] <gnomefreak> Pygi, FF1.5 had issues in breezy for alot of people
[06:55] <gnomefreak> how do i look at an away message?
[06:55] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, I compiled FF1.5 at breezy and it worked well :p
[06:55] <ITSa341> What is the best package to install for prism based wifi cards and usb adapters? ndiswrapper or linux-wlan-ng??
[06:56] <Delvien> PeteyPablo i think so
[06:56] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: after installing the .deb read the .pdf it tells you everything you need
[06:56] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: :-)
[06:56] <Delvien> PeteyPablo thanks much man
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  its not done yet?
[06:57] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: no problem any questions feel free to come back or if you have aim or msn i can add you
[06:57] <blaamann> ITSa341: What about prism ?
[06:57] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, no :P
[06:57] <gnomefreak> had to ask
[06:57] <gnomefreak> ok Pygi  how do you set an away message?
[06:57] <Pygi> gnome: pre-alpha phase :P
[06:57] <Delvien> Peteypablo still installing dapper and stuff so dont have gaim setup  hehe
[06:57] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: oh i don't use unstable releases
[06:57] <Pygi> gnomefreak: in X-Chat?
[06:57] <dabaR> niner!
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Pygi, yes
[06:58] <gnomefreak> i use it most
[06:58] <Delvien> PeteyPablo its quite stable :)
[06:58] <ITSa341> What is the best package to install for prism based wifi cards and usb adapters? ndiswrapper or linux-wlan-ng??
[06:58] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: thats not what i have heard :-(
[06:58] <Pygi> Setting --> Preerences --> General
[06:58] <brasko> So, I was given advice from this room to try out freenx
[06:58] <Pygi> And check the "Announce away message"
[06:58] <brasko> Apparently, that's a free version of the NX prototcol.
[06:58] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: anyway im new to linux so breezy is fine for me :-)
[06:58] <Pygi> and you can set it up :P
[06:58] <ITSa341> blaam  appreciate any advice you can give
[06:58] <rev> Pygi: Valid XHTML? It says Failed validation, 12 errors :D
[06:58] <Pygi> rev: I know :P
[06:58] <brasko> However, I had to download the nomachines, nx client for windows
[06:58] <brasko> has anyone else done that?
[06:58] <brasko> I'm trying to get fullscreen mode working with the client version
[06:59] <Pygi> rev: I ain't web designer, web coder or  whatever :P
[06:59] <gnomefreak> oh cool :))
[06:59] <Delvien> Peteypablo i started linux with Breezy preview (unstable ) :)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ty Pygi
[06:59] <Pygi> rev: I am just a simple programmer :P
[06:59] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: :-)
[06:59] <blaamann> ITSa341:linux-wlan works with my prism based card
[06:59] <Pygi> gnome: yw
[06:59] <Pygi> dabaR: hehe :)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> <<<very simple programmer
[06:59] <Pygi> now everyone will use that :P
[07:00] <gnomefreak> :))
[07:00] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, what languages?
[07:00] <dabaR> Pygi: good work.
[07:00] <Delvien> PeteyPablo whats the command to start it in terminal
[07:00] <Pygi> dabaR: good work on what? :P
[07:00] <ITSa341> blaamann  thx, I'm running fine now but I want to go to my 802.11 g card with the prism2 chip
[07:00] <Delvien> PeteyPablo app bar in dapper is bugged atm
[07:00] <ajmitch> Pygi: note that setting a public away message in here can be very annoying
[07:00] <gnomefreak> C and bash going to school for java on 28th
[07:00] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: it's all in the .pdf
[07:00] <JohnnyO> Ok - I am able to get the Gnome desktop by "startx"
[07:00] <Pygi> ajmitch: yes, I know, I removed it :P just wanna show the url :P
[07:00] <JohnnyO> but when I do a restart - it sends me back to CLI
[07:00] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: i don't know off hand
[07:01] <Pygi> dabaR: huh? what's good work?
[07:01] <ajmitch> Pygi: spamming urls also isn't appreciated :P
[07:01] <Pygi> ajmitch: I just showed 1 url, not spammed :P
[07:01] <Delvien> PeteyPablo do you know where Xchat puts its downloads ?
[07:01] <Delvien> PeteyPablo cant find the PDF
[07:01] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: one sec
[07:01] <Pygi> ajmitch: 1 url is not spamming :)
[07:01] <PeteyPablo> /home/pete/.xchat2/downloads
[07:02] <PeteyPablo> so for you
[07:02] <PeteyPablo> whatever your name is
[07:02] <ajmitch> Pygi: it is, especially when done to multiple channels like you did
[07:02] <dave_> happy new year
[07:02] <Pygi> ajmitch: huh, yes, forgot :/ sorry I suppose :P
[07:02] <gnomefreak> happy newyear dave
[07:03] <Delvien> PeteyPablo thanks thats it
[07:03] <PeteyPablo> like the holy man pushing redemption
[07:03] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: no problemo
[07:03] <dave_> thanks
[07:03] <gnomefreak> i love that song :))
[07:03] <PeteyPablo> gnomefreak: :-)
[07:03] <ajmitch> Pygi: I'd hate for you to be the first ban of the year ;)
[07:03] <dabaR> ajmitch is likely perfectly happy in both cases.
[07:03] <dabaR> haha
[07:03] <PeteyPablo> banning from irc is rediculous, so easy to get back in
[07:03] <Pygi> ajmitch: I never got banned anywhere :P I hope I won't be banned here either :p
[07:03] <dabaR> It's a healthy discussion.
[07:04] <JohnnyO> gnomefreak - I sent you a IM
[07:04] <gnomefreak> ajmitch,  he cant be first we had atleast one already but im shutting up now
[07:04] <Pygi> dabaR: so you said me good work for what? :P
[07:04] <gnomefreak> JohnnyO,  no you didnt
[07:04] <Pygi> gnomefreak: yes, we did, indeed :P
[07:04] <gnomefreak> JohnnyO, are you registered?
[07:04] <ajmitch> gnomefreak: first for me
[07:04] <gallatin> hi all
[07:04] <JohnnyO> yeah - but been 2yrs since i've been in IRC - I forgot my password :)
[07:04] <JohnnyO> so I can't identify
[07:04] <psusi> then you arne't registered...
[07:04] <gnomefreak> JohnnyO, you have to re- register it if its avalible
[07:05] <psusi> nickserv expires accounts after 30 days of inactivity iirc
[07:05] <gallatin> i got a small question
[07:05] <Pygi> ajmitch: huh, you would kick me? :(
[07:05] <gnomefreak> if you dont use it every 30-60 days than it get cancelled
[07:05] <Pygi> ban*
[07:05] <gallatin> i run the x64 edition of ubuntu
[07:05] <gnomefreak> gallatin, continue
[07:05] <ajmitch> Pygi: if warranted :)
[07:05] <gallatin> but i got this nasty flash player install saying that it aint compatible with my system architecure
[07:05] <gallatin> figures
[07:06] <Delvien> PeteyPablo How do install Home edition ? lol only opts for pRO
[07:06] <gallatin> since macromedia doesnt have x64 software
[07:06] <gallatin> not even for windows
[07:06] <gallatin> so my question is: is there a way to get flash working...or is it a no go
[07:06] <Pygi> ajmitch: I guess I should never appear on any of ubuntu-* channels anymore
[07:06] <gnomefreak> gallatin, some packages you cant get for 64 bit but if im right you can run 32bits with the 64bit arch
[07:06] <Pygi> :P
[07:06] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: just install pro and enter the key in the .txt file when it asks
[07:06] <JohnnyO> brb - someone stole JohnnyO :(
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lol hb
[07:06] <Delvien> peteypablo i did , and it says not a supported Windows CDROM
[07:06] <psusi> gallatin, correct... and yes, you can install firefox and the flash plugin inside a 32 bit chroot... I'm sure there's howtos on this on the wiki
[07:06] <gallatin> the setup wont go...thats the problem
[07:06] <JohnnyO> not really theft - but it was mine for years !
[07:07] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: it might not be, is it bootable?
[07:07] <gallatin> hm..
[07:07] <Delvien> peteypablo yah
[07:07] <brasko> When using Synaptic, is there any way to find out what files a package will install?
[07:07] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: generally OEM (company xp cd's are not accepted)
[07:07] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: just make an iso of it
[07:07] <brasko> or even from the command line using apt, if synaptic can't do it?
[07:07] <gallatin> niiiice, linux is nice on beginners :D
[07:07] <gallatin> -.-
[07:07] <gallatin> iv googled around before i got on irc
[07:08] <dabaR> brasko: "dpkg -L package" I think only after installed.
[07:08] <psusi> brasko, look at the properties of the package
[07:08] <gnomefreak> brasko,  yes click the install buttons next to the package it will give you dependncies for it if you choose you dont want to than just uncheck it
[07:08] <gallatin> its a usual problem, but...people dont have a out of the box solution
[07:08] <gallatin> :S
[07:08] <gnomefreak> wb Johnny0
[07:08] <Pygi> huh, welcome Ben
[07:08] <Johnny0> Thanks
[07:08] <psusi> gallatin, look on the ubuntu wiki specifically
[07:08] <Draken> nvidia-glx-1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1
[07:08] <Draken> i need that
[07:08] <Draken> someone help me
[07:08] <Delvien> PeteyPablo dumb question , how do i make an iso out of it them
[07:09] <gnomefreak> psusi, ubotu is gone :((
[07:09] <Delvien> Peteypablo then*
[07:09] <psusi> gallatin, and the forums... it's a common topic, but since I've never done it, I only have a vague idea how to do it
[07:09] <Pygi> draken: look at debian repositories...
[07:09] <PeteyPablo> can somone tell him to iso a file on linux? i forget
[07:09] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ubotu is here, isn't it?
[07:09] <gallatin> thanks psusi
[07:09] <PeteyPablo> !iso
[07:09] <gnomefreak> !botsnack
[07:09] <ubotu> iso is probably download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:09] <ubotu> :)
[07:09] <psusi> PeteyPablo, what?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> yes he came back :))
[07:09] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:09] <gnomefreak> Johnny0,  your registered
[07:10] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :P
[07:10] <Johnny0> lol
[07:10] <Pygi> gnome: ur abusing bot with botsnack :P
[07:10] <Johnny0> yes I am - feel like a ummmmm registered man now
[07:10] <ITSa341> gnomefreak how do I register my nick?
[07:10] <PeteyPablo>  /msg nickserv register password
[07:10] <Draken> Pygi
[07:10] <Draken> it doesnt grab the headers
[07:10] <Draken> for the file
[07:10] <Pygi> Draken: what this time? :P
[07:10] <gallatin> omfg psusi, sorry man
[07:11] <gallatin> i see now
[07:11] <gnomefreak> ITSa341,  /msg nickserv register <password>
[07:11] <Delvien> PeteyPablo thats for burning an iso, not creating one from a CD, but thats ok found a copy of PRO, but its not a licensced copy
[07:11] <PeteyPablo> Delvien: ok
[07:11] <peza> Hi all, are the GB archive mirrors for ubuntu down just now?
[07:11] <Pygi> gnomefreak: k, can I go now?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> go for it
[07:12] <gnomefreak> what is gb?
[07:12] <Pygi> k, bye then :p
[07:12] <Pygi> great britain :P
[07:12] <rev> bipolar: does the patch work for you?
[07:12] <ITSa341> ahh ty PeteyPablo & gnomefreak
[07:12] <Pygi> !wait in line
[07:12] <ubotu> wait in line is probably like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[07:12] <Pygi> thank :)
[07:12] <peza> Great Britian: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[07:12] <gnomefreak> yw ITSa341
[07:13] <Pygi> bye all ;p
[07:13] <ITSa341> well, I have to go see how much damage the renters did partying last night.   bbiab
[07:13] <gnomefreak> peza,  looks like you have the cdrom repo enabled with the http ones
[07:13] <bipolar> rev: I've been running a backup and havn't had time to check
[07:14] <bipolar> rev: I bookmarked it and will give it a shot.
[07:14] <peza> gnomefreak, na, i disable the cdrom repo when i install debian or ubuntu boxes
[07:14] <bipolar> rev: the packages will need to be updated if it works.
[07:14] <gnomefreak> peza, ok paste your sources.list file to pastebin please
[07:15] <rev> bipolar: ah okay
[07:15] <Shadyman> What kind of errors would installing the wrong kernel give? (like, K7 or I686)
[07:15] <peza> gnomefreak, i've tried just using firefox to connect to the repo, and it isn't working, but i've just ssh'd to a box in .au and it can't hit the gb mirrors either... guess i answered my question :) thanks anyways!
[07:15] <gnomefreak> peza, sounds like no net connection
[07:16] <peza> gnomefreak, ???
[07:16] <Shadyman> New question: Would installing the wrong kernel (like, K7 or I686) give seemingly random errors?
[07:16] <Kyral> Shadyman: no...
[07:16] <gnomefreak> Shadyman, more than likely
[07:17] <peza> Shadyman, more likely to prevent booting
[07:17] <Kyral> ....
[07:17] <Kyral> no no no
[07:17] <Kyral> within x86
[07:17] <wizardjames> i have a prob , wavpack music files are not being noticed. on my install of ubuntu.   xmms , amarok , juk wont desply them in the list.    ..
[07:17] <gnomefreak> Kyral, running a k7 on a 1386 arch will give errors no?
[07:17] <Shadyman> Well, I'm using an AMD sempron, and i was running K7.
[07:17] <Kyral> gnomefreak: its the same arch
[07:17] <gnomefreak> i386 *
[07:17] <Kyral> gnomefreak: K7 and 386 are both x86
[07:17] <poningru> guys for the livecd how do you mount your win partition?
[07:17] <Shadyman> Kyral: Yep.
[07:18] <Shadyman> Kyral: But maybe different CPU extensions or something?
[07:18] <Kyral> K7 is just optimized for Athlon XP
[07:18] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty
[07:18] <Kyral> I mean you run a 386 kernel by default
[07:18] <Kyral> If anything it would just run slower
[07:18] <Shadyman> Kyral: Yeah. Should I try an i686 and see what happens?
[07:18] <Kyral> Shadyman: what CPU you have?
[07:18] <Shadyman> Kyral: AMD Sempron
[07:19] <Kyral> 64?
[07:19] <Shadyman> No
[07:19] <dotrig> going to install ubuntu now my debian is ass nv_sata: Missed devicie in start
[07:19] <Kyral> that should be K7
[07:19] <Kyral> or K6
[07:19] <Kyral> i686 is Intel processors
[07:19] <rev> K7 should be fine
[07:19] <Kyral> but running an SMP kernel on a non SMP cpu....
[07:20] <peza> Kyral, running an SMP kernel on a uniprocessor box won't do anything bad, or even slow it down
[07:20] <gnomefreak> i got 512 ram with a p2 :((
[07:20] <markus-_-> what is the command to prepare a run file for installation?
[07:20] <Hericus> gnomefreak, nice. :)
[07:21] <dotrig> what have heppend with ubuntu updates last month :)
[07:21] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, what run file and there should be instructions on the site you got it from
[07:21] <dotrig> New kernel?
[07:21] <markus-_-> its wolfenstein enemy territory
[07:21] <gnomefreak> dotrig,  for warty,hoary,breezy?
[07:21] <markus-_-> chg sumthing
[07:21] <dotrig> 5.10
[07:21] <sorush20> 1cad
[07:21] <sorush20> !cad
[07:21] <ubotu> sorush20: What?
[07:22] <pinkisntwell> tell me about firefox 1.5
[07:22] <markus-_-> i know to install it i type ./nameof file
[07:22] <gnomefreak> !FF1.5
[07:22] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:22] <ilba7r> does amsn support vedio and voice chat?
[07:22] <hunika> I AM BACK
[07:22] <gnomefreak> more than likey yes updated kernel but since i dont have a clue about your os
[07:23] <Inf3ctedFx> ilba7r:  the laters aMSN does
[07:23] <b-rad> hello everyone
[07:23] <ilba7r> thanx inf3ctedFx
[07:23] <gnomefreak> newest brezy kernel is 2.6.12-10
[07:23] <dotrig> :)
[07:23] <dotrig> Last i used was it 2.6.8
[07:23] <gnomefreak> for i386
[07:24] <gnomefreak> dotrig, if you click on the lil red thing in the upper corner of gnome can show you the updates
[07:24] <visik7> where is xorgcfg ?
[07:24] <b-rad> anyone got an ideas as to why Firefox would start to segfault on me after I've messed around with some fonts?  I followed a post in the forums about making the fonts look nicer.. and firefox just segfaults on me when i try to go anywhere.  It starts..  but if i click a bookmark or go somewhere, it dies
[07:24] <dotrig> i dont use ubuntu now :P going to install again
[07:24] <gnomefreak> dotrig,  oh ok
[07:24] <dotrig> fedora sucks
[07:24] <Draken> nvidia-glx-1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1, can someone find this for me
[07:25] <gnomefreak> i agree
[07:25] <dotrig> yum dosent will download vlc correct :O
[07:25] <dotrig> in fc
[07:25] <gnomefreak> draken run apt-cache search <package>
[07:25] <gnomefreak> i wanted to try fc5
[07:25] <Draken> gnomefreak, it seems to be down
[07:25] <gnomefreak> but been putting it off
[07:26] <gnomefreak> draken ap-cache search is never down
[07:26] <visik7> Draken: put restricted into your sources
[07:26] <Draken> no
[07:26] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search
[07:26] <Draken> i just download
[07:26] <Draken> it just sits at getting headers
[07:26] <dotrig> fedora = buggy
[07:26] <Shadyman> fedora = buggy
[07:26] <gnomefreak> but you have it downloaded than why are we loooking for it?
[07:26] <dotrig> ubuntu = easy
[07:27] <dotrig> and good
[07:27] <Shadyman> Next question: I edited the wpasupplicant file in init.d, bu it doesn't load properly. What options should i be using for it?
[07:27] <mantas> hi all,
[07:27] <basti> hi all too
[07:27] <Draken> gnomefreak? i never said i had it
[07:27] <gnomefreak> draken you said you downloaded it already
[07:27] <mantas> i'm using dapper have some problems with firefox
[07:27] <gnomefreak> read your last post
[07:28] <gnomefreak> mantas, its expected
[07:28] <Draken> no, i said I download, but it just sits at getting headers
[07:28] <mantas> with https
[07:28] <mantas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ gives me Unexpected response from server
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <gnomefreak> draken cancell it and start over
[07:28] <mantas> 
[07:28] <mantas> Firefox doesn't know how to communicate with the server.
[07:28] <mantas> sorry
[07:28] <gnomefreak> mantas,  do not paste in here
[07:28] <Jeff12088> no spam pl0x
[07:29] <Draken> i have tried gnomefreak, i tried apt-get and other graphical pkg programs
[07:29] <Draken> give it a try :P
[07:29] <heckpiet> hi everybody
[07:29] <mantas> gnomefreak, it was only 2 lines
[07:29] <pinkisntwell> I installed ff 1.5 but when I click a link on some app it launches ff 1.0.7 if no ff is already running
[07:29] <dabaR> mantas: which firefox?
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Draken,  im not on breezy and i dont needd nvidia drivers :)
[07:29] <mantas> 1.5
[07:29] <gnomefreak> mantas,  it was more than 2 lines
[07:29] <b-rad> Anyone have any problems with firefox segfaulting after installing some fonts?
[07:29] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: suckazzz!!! joking. How did you install 1.5?
[07:29] <Draken> gnomefreak, well it isnt downloading, everything else is fine
[07:29] <gnomefreak> i see 10
[07:29] <Jeff12088> Is it better to download Kubuntu and reinstall or just install KDE using apt-get?
[07:30] <dabaR> mantas: aren't you sorry you did it now?
[07:30] <pinkisntwell> by following the instructions in the wiki
[07:30] <pinkisntwell> no
[07:30] <dabaR> mantas: well, learn from this for the future. Use stable program versions. This is unsupported.
[07:31] <mcscruff> hi i need to use the windows Dos command "/COPY" is there a linux version of this?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> dabaR,  ive been trying to tell everyone that its not in repos its not supported :((
[07:31] <pinkisntwell> I would use stable programs but the deafult ff is the slowest program on earth
[07:31] <dabaR> gnomefreak: but still sometimes someone knows what to do..
[07:31] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: use epiphany.
[07:31] <gnomefreak> dabaR, that is true but im not gonna ask ar eyou a newbie first :))
[07:31] <pinkisntwell> what the fuck? I LIKE firefox!
[07:31] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: your issue seems workable. Go System>Pref>Preffs Progs, and point the browser to your copy.
[07:31] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell,  watch you language
[07:32] <mantas> dabaR, yesterday it (firefox 1.5 from dapper) was working
[07:32] <markus-_-> any ideas why i can't install to /usr/local/games
[07:32] <pinkisntwell> sorry
[07:32] <markus-_-> it tells me i have no write permission
[07:32] <dabaR> mantas: perhaps tomorrow it will work again, then, eh, mantas ?hehe. Im mean, don't mind me. Good luck!
[07:32] <pinkisntwell> I read somewhere that the ff shipped with ubuntu is slow and they will fix that for dapper
[07:32] <mantas> now it's working too, but without ssl
[07:33] <markus-_-> but i have installed that game to that directory on a different computer with no problems before
[07:33] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: and you never even tried whether it was slow for you?
[07:33] <blue-frog> markus-_-, use sudo
[07:33] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: go do what I told you, and ask if you need more info.
[07:33] <markus-_-> how
[07:33] <markus-_-> its an installer
[07:33] <blue-frog> markus-_-, sudo installer
[07:33] <dabaR> I mean, if you want to fix what you mentioned.
[07:33] <pinkisntwell> dabaR: it works, thank you
[07:34] <pinkisntwell> dabaR: I tried it for a month (since I installed ubuntu), it's immensely slow
[07:34] <markus-_-> hmmmm
[07:34] <markus-_-> i tried inserting sudo
[07:34] <markus-_-> but nothing happened
[07:35] <markus-_-> i don't recall needing to use sudo to install enemy territory to that directory on my other computer
[07:35] <blue-frog> markus-_-, your other computer was not ubuntu
[07:35] <markus-_-> sure it was
[07:35] <blue-frog> markus-_-, then all is well
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Markus you cant install anything unless you sudo
[07:36] <markus-_-> accept i can't install it to that directory
[07:36] <Draken> nvidia-glx-1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1, can someone find this for me
[07:36] <ekin> hello guy
[07:36] <markus-_-> brb
[07:36] <markus-_-> gonna try sumtin
[07:36] <mantas> dabaR, your nick is strange :)
[07:37] <pinkisntwell> I really think they should backport ff 1.5
[07:37] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell, they will when all bugs are out of it
[07:37] <pinkisntwell> gnomefreak: or at least use the standard version of 1.0.7
[07:37] <gnomefreak> breezy uses 1.0.7
[07:38] <gnomefreak> dapper uses 1.5 and dapper isnt stable yet
[07:38] <teroedni> i would rather say than none of the firefox version are stable;)
[07:39] <gnomefreak> FF1.0.7 is stable
[07:39] <gnomefreak> as stable as FF gets
[07:39] <defendguin> 1.5 has a few annoying bugs :(
[07:39] <pinkisntwell> gnomefreak: breezy has 1.0.7 indeed, but it's a different version than the one provided by mozilla and is way slower
[07:39] <defendguin> especially this one with the menus
[07:39] <gnomefreak> agreed that is why its not been backported yet
[07:40] <ekin> hello guys I install xfce to ubuntu can i install synaptic
[07:40] <Kindred> 1.5 is not going to be backported
[07:40] <defendguin> does anyone know why ours is way slower?  is it the GTK integration?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> ekin,  you dont have to it should be there
[07:40] <Mazin> what should I do if GParted reports an error?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> Kindred, unless it was changed in last few weeks it is still going to be backported
[07:40] <Mazin> is there a disk-intergrity checker?
[07:40] <pinkisntwell> Kindred: why wont it be backported?
[07:41] <evermuse> the last time firefox was stable it was called firebird
[07:41] <MarcN> Mazin: fsck (on umounted partitions)
[07:41] <Kindred> 1.5 has some fundamental changes that would break too many other tihngs.
[07:42] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[07:42] <MarcN> Mazin: ah, not filesystem, but disk.  What does fdisk say?
[07:42] <Spudchat> im trying to restart my sound server...im in /etc/init.d/ but im not seeing anything that looks like what i need
[07:42] <pinkisntwell> Kindred: such as?
[07:42] <Spudchat> any ideas?
[07:42] <defendguin> Kindred, im using 1.5 now on breezy.  what is is breaking that i am not aware of
[07:43] <defendguin> s/is is/is it
[07:44] <pinkisntwell> anyone know if any other distro has 1.5 in their repos?
[07:44] <Mazin> MarcN, fdisk tells me i don't have a valid DOS partition table, and builds one
[07:44] <Mazin> also it says "Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)
[07:44] <Mazin> "
[07:45] <Seveas> defendguin, but you've installed it in /opt or /usr/local oslt
[07:45] <Seveas> and that doesn't break things
[07:45] <XiCillin> happy new year everybody
[07:45] <defendguin> Seveas, well why cant the backpot be installed into opt?
[07:45] <defendguin> as if it really matter where the file is located as long as it works
[07:46] <MarcN> Mazin: you have backups, right?   Don't really know what that implies.
[07:46] <Seveas> because packages are not allowed to use /opt or /usr/local
[07:46] <Mazin> MarcN: no backups, but nothing really important either
[07:46] <MarcN> Mazin: go for it.
[07:46] <gnomefreak> that could be reason why my /usr/local/bin file is empty?
[07:46] <Seveas> yes
[07:46] <gnomefreak> ha ty
[07:47] <gnomefreak> that was bothereing me all night
[07:47] <Mazin> MarcN: weird thing is, after GParted supposedly shrinks the partition (make free space), nothing seems to change
[07:47] <sorush20> !dvde
[07:47] <ubotu> sorush20: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:47] <sorush20> !dvd
[07:47] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:47] <guerby> any spanish citizen around?
[07:47] <Seveas> !dvd =~ s!seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/!wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages!
[07:47] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:47] <Seveas> ubotu, stupid bot
[07:47] <ubotu> stupid seveas
[07:48] <dabaR> ubotu: tell sorush20 about ask the bot
[07:48] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:48] <Mazin> would the Ubuntu Installer's Partitioner work any better than GParted?
[07:48] <MarcN> Mazin: moving paritions around never makes me feel safe.  I think sometimes you need to reboot in order to have the disk partition table re-read.
[07:48] <Mazin> MarcN: oh well, it's probably trashed by now
[07:48] <sorush20> !dvd
[07:48] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:48] <Seveas> !forget dvd
[07:48] <ubotu> i forgot dvd, Seveas
[07:48] <defendguin> buy a partition magic boot disk
[07:49] <Mazin> defendguin: eh, no.  I don't want to spend money on partition magic
[07:51] <defendguin> Mazin, its a great program and it works
[07:51] <defendguin> if not you can call them and complain
[07:52] <Draken> nvidia-glx-1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1, can someone find this for me
[07:52] <gnomefreak> nvidia.com?
[07:53] <Draken> its not
[07:53] <Draken> ill pay $1000
[07:53] <blue-frog> Draken, synaptic doesn't work?
[07:53] <Draken> if u find it
[07:53] <Draken> blue-frog, nope, doesnt connect or something, everything else works, not that
[07:53] <gnomefreak> Draken,  if you cant look for it what makes you think you need it?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> !nvidia
[07:54] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:54] <gnomefreak> go there
[07:54] <gnomefreak> i found it
[07:54] <blue-frog> Draken, solve your synaptic problem first...
[07:55] <cello_rasp> how do i make disk images of cds or dvds?
[07:55] <jhenn> are there any tricks to speeding up openoffice load times?
[07:55] <Draken> blue-frog
[07:55] <Draken> wat do u ppl not understand
[07:55] <Draken> THE FILE IS NOT ON THE MAIN SERVER
[07:55] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, copying an iso? or making an iso?
[07:55] <Draken> for synaptic
[07:55] <simonx> hello
[07:55] <blue-frog> Draken, sad i installed it from there...
[07:55] <dabaR> Draken: stop shouting. Also, check this out.
[07:55] <gnomefreak> Draken, than widen your sources list a lil
[07:55] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak: copying from an existing disk
[07:55] <dabaR> !+info nvidia-glx
[07:55] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver), section restricted/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25 (breezy), Packaged size: 3012 kB, Installed size: 10036 kB
[07:56] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp,  what burner are you using?
[07:56] <soultaker1974> hello to all
[07:56] <Draken> wat dabaR ?
[07:56] <cello_rasp> no burner yet. i mean i want to back up a cd of mine
[07:56] <dabaR> Draken: see the standard Ubuntu version from ubotu ^
[07:56] <cello_rasp> this could be construed as creating an iso..
[07:56] <dabaR> That is in the restricted repository, Draken
[07:56] <Draken> omg
[07:56] <Draken> ppl
[07:56] <gnomefreak> !iso
[07:56] <ubotu> it has been said that iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[07:57] <Draken> i have every repository on
[07:57] <Draken> i never said i cant SEE it, i said it doesnt download
[07:57] <gnomefreak> ive never done it before :(
[07:57] <simonx> how can i change the size of fonts in applications like mozilla, because i installed icewm and now all font sizes are much smaller
[07:57] <Seveas> Draken, then apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Draken,  you dont have restricted if you cant find it in synaptic
[07:57] <Draken> Seveas, im not a idiot
[07:57] <gnomefreak> Seveas, 3 days with the same person same issue
[07:57] <Draken> sigh gnomefreak, please learn to read, i said i can SEE it, but it doesnt download
[07:57] <Seveas> DRAGON_Ultra, apparently you are
[07:58] <Seveas> Draken*
[07:58] <Seveas> Draken, and why doesn't it download?
[07:58] <dabaR> Draken: ya, you certainly are impatient like one...
[07:58] <Kr0ntab> !cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Kr0ntab
[07:58] <Draken> Seveas, i dont know, it just says getting headers 0%
[07:58] <Kr0ntab> woops
[07:58] <Draken> and doesnt start
[07:58] <gnomefreak> Draken,  first apt-cache search nvidia-glx
[07:58] <Draken> ive tried reseting it, i have tried apt-get
[07:59] <Seveas> Draken, and any other apt-get install works?
[07:59] <Draken> ya, all of them
[07:59] <cello_rasp> does anybody know how to create disk images (specifically for backing up). I'm talking about an equivalent to Nero's 'create disk image' function. this has nothing to do with burning or the ubuntu install cd.
[07:59] <Draken> did nvidia-settings and nvidia-kernel before
[07:59] <dabaR> Draken: are you using apt-get?
[07:59] <Draken> dabaR, i have tried it
[07:59] <Draken> and kynaptics, and synaptics
[07:59] <Seveas> Draken, apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[07:59] <Seveas> output on the pastebin
[07:59] <nox-Hand> Hello!
[08:00] <nox-Hand> I need some help
[08:00] <Draken> im not in linux atm
[08:00] <defendguin> cello_rasp, dd?
[08:00] <dabaR> Draken: post your /etc/sources.list, and output of sudo apt-get update, and output of sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:00] <Seveas> then go to linux, do this and return
[08:00] <Draken> Seveas, i cant
[08:00] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand,  just ask your question
[08:00] <nox-Hand> I shall.
[08:00] <Seveas> and do what dabaR said too
[08:00] <Draken> i cant say in KDE for longer then 1min
[08:00] <gnomefreak> ok good :__
[08:00] <Draken> beofre it crashs
[08:00] <dabaR> Draken: did you come to complain, or fix the issue?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> :))
[08:00] <Seveas> Draken, command line works too
[08:00] <sorush20> kate keeps on crashing
[08:01] <gnomefreak> kde doesnt work does gnome?
[08:01] <Draken> guys, listen, my sources.list is fine, everything is uncommented
[08:01] <Seveas> Draken, that says very little
[08:01] <Draken> gnomefreak, its a problem with X11, check nvidia forums
[08:01] <Draken> new update fixs it
[08:01] <Seveas> but if you can't test things, we can't help you.
[08:01] <dabaR> Draken: ctrl+alt+f1, and then run irssi to get here, and use ctrl+alt+f2 to run commands we tell you.
[08:01] <vega-> if he's not co-operating why help at all?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> Draken, yes i know but you said kde is crashing not X
[08:01] <nox-Hand> Right. My mate installed ubuntu. Then reinstalled his XP, after a virus on it. (typical XP..) now we need GRUB installed again. I got the commands but need to know how to change to a root terminal  in live cd. (before that I cannot #mkdir /mnt/gentoo and all that to chroot)
[08:01] <dabaR> Draken: how would you fix it if you can not even get inot Ubuntu?
[08:01] <Draken> ok dabaR brb
[08:02] <Seveas> !grub
[08:02] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:02] <Draken> gnomefreak, yes because im using KDE
[08:02] <Seveas> ^-- nox-Hand
[08:02] <nox-Hand> Seveas: I know how to get it working again. Just need to get into a root user in my live cd to do it.
[08:02] <dabaR> nox-Hand: ubuntu uses sudo, not root. more at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:02] <Seveas> nox-Hand, sudo -i
[08:03] <nox-Hand> Seveas: Right! Cheers
[08:03] <nox-Hand> dabaR: Cheers
[08:03] <Abyssal> The LiveCD stops working when it says "Loading hotplug subsystems" and it just sits there for hours, doing nothing. Help?
[08:03] <avatar_> I am new to Ubuntu and Linux, wondering if ubuntu can view videos off of www in mpeg format using firefox somehow?
[08:03] <nox-Hand> You need codecs.
[08:04] <gnomefreak> !mpeg
[08:04] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I don't know
[08:04] <Firesword> any thoughts on where to find a driver for an nvidia 7800 gt for ubuntu,, running breezy badger 5.10
[08:04] <Abyssal> Please Private Message me if you can help with my problem.
[08:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Firesword about nvidia
[08:04] <teroedni> Hello all:I have a difficult question: Im trying to install ubuntu dapper i386 using a dlink wireless card DWL-G122(USB) .It is no probem to get it work following this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25676&highlight=dwl-122 .But im installing from scratch and cant figure out how to do it from the installer
[08:04] <physis> hi guys
[08:04] <Draken> ok, wat u guys want me to do ?
[08:04] <ubuntu_> gpproject
[08:04] <matthew_w> Hey - is there any way to play directx games on Linux without cedega?
[08:05] <dabaR> Draken: /j #flood
[08:05] <teroedni> i think i would need to get to a terminal then and continnue the installation aftrewards
[08:05] <teroedni> any Idea:Thanks For all Help
[08:05] <gnomefreak> theres a flood room?
[08:05] <hou5ton> does anyone happen to have a link to current information on cell phones that sync with Evolution on Linux?
[08:05] <Seveas> gnomefreak, #flood
[08:05] <physis> Guys, Ubuntu don't suporte (default instalation) tunnel devices?  I do   #ifconfig tun0 up but don't work.  tun modules it's loaded...
[08:06] <gnomefreak> cool :)
[08:06] <defendguin> hou5ton, your from houston?
[08:06] <hou5ton> no .... it's a inside family thing
[08:06] <hou5ton> Missouri
[08:06] <defendguin> ahhh
[08:07] <teroedni> Please:Is there no chance to get in a terminal before ubuntu tries to configure the networks card ?
[08:07] <teroedni> Thanks for the help
[08:07] <nox-Hand_testing> Where is fstab? Forgot?
[08:07] <hou5ton> anyway .... i'd like to switch to a cell phone/pda type unit that will sync with Evolution on Ubuntu without me having to be a coding guru ... which I'm NOT
[08:09] <sorush20> Seveas: is Seveas in the house?
[08:09] <karel> /etc/fstab
[08:09] <flut> hi from romania
[08:10] <sorush20> Seveas: I'm adding you repositories I keep getting pgp errors? any ideas?
[08:10] <Firesword> Florida USA  here
[08:10] <karel> hi from South Africa
[08:10] <nox-Hand_testing> karel: Thanks
[08:10] <Seveas> sorush20, read the homepage of the repo
[08:10] <Shadyman> Hi from Canada, eh?
[08:10] <poningru> what
[08:10] <poningru> fl here too
[08:10] <flut> Hi friends. we have to talking, yeah
[08:10] <teroedni> hmm i gues not then:D I guess that will be a good goal for the devs:)
[08:10] <mihai> happy new year guys
[08:11] <physis> I'm looking lots users with tunnel problems in Ubuntu... But I can't find one answer.  Anyone can help me?
[08:11] <deejoe_> ok, in GNOME/metacity I can go to System, Log Off... and then choose hibernate.  question is, how can I hibernate from the command line?  the "hibernate" command doesn't seem to be the thing.
[08:11] <flut> happy and joyous if possible
[08:11] <mihai> off course
[08:11] <Firesword> Happy New Year from Clearwater Beach FL  USA
[08:11] <flut> hi clearwater. how are you
[08:11] <Seveas> Firesword, happy new year :)
[08:12] <markus-_-> when i use the x reconfiguration tool, does it automatically remove any previous video drivers?
[08:12] <cello_rasp> happy new year from da uk
[08:12] <Firesword> flut  nice and warm about 27 cel here
[08:12] <mihai> i am trying to connect to my other computer in my network i cant connect to it no matter what i try any ideas?
[08:12] <cello_rasp> mihai: samba?
[08:12] <deejoe_> mihai: can you ping it?
[08:12] <defendguin> ubotu, Backports!
[08:12] <ubotu> I heard backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[08:12] <mihai> yes
[08:12] <flut> ok. we have no snow here even if the snow is something usual here in winter. so bad ...
[08:13] <cello_rasp> windows or linux server?
[08:13] <mihai> windows
[08:13] <flut> firesword: are you still there
[08:13] <Firesword> flut   yes  i'm  here
[08:13] <cello_rasp> mihai i presume you have shared folders set up
[08:14] <mihai> yes i do
[08:14] <flut> firesword tell me something about your New Year's Eve
[08:15] <physis> no body can help me? :(
[08:15] <physis> *nobody ;)
[08:15] <mihai> cello_rasp:is there anyway to bypass this\/
[08:15] <mihai> ?
[08:15] <Pygi> physis: what seems to be a problem?
[08:17] <physis> Pygi, when I try up tun0 device I have "tun0: ERROR while getting interface flags:".  net/tun.ko module it's loaded, but I can't use a tunnel.
[08:17] <cello_rasp> mihai i am having the same problem. i think the windows firewall may have something to do with this
[08:18] <Pygi> huh :/
[08:18] <physis> Pygi, and looking Google, I can see others Ubuntu users with this problem (but no a answer) :-(
[08:18] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping....
[08:19] <Pygi> physis: don't know what it could be :/ but feel free to join #debian
[08:19] <mihai> i have foun away
[08:19] <mihai> its window's fault
[08:19] <brasko> Hi, I'm trying to add new key bindings in Gnome/ubuntu
[08:19] <fanopnaic> anyone using a nforce 2 board with SP/DIF output?
[08:19] <brasko> Has anyone done that before?
[08:19] <mihai> u need enable network sharing
[08:19] <sorush20> is amd 64 k7?
[08:19] <gnomefreak> Pygi, pong
[08:19] <physis> Pygi, thank's
[08:19] <cello_rasp> mihai here is a great site for xp problems http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-109
[08:19] <cello_rasp> thx
[08:19] <mihai> thank you
[08:20] <teroedni> fanopnaic :Yes i have a nforce 2 board with sp/dif
[08:20] <gnomefreak> heres a good place for xp problems #windows
[08:20] <fanopnaic> teroedni: anything fancy you had to do in order to get sp/dif working? :)
[08:20] <gnomefreak> :))
[08:20] <Pygi> gnomefreak: k, just wanted to see if you are here :P
[08:20] <brasko> For instance, I want to map some keys to any command I want
[08:20] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak lol
[08:20] <brasko> Is that possible?
[08:20] <Pygi> physis: yw
[08:20] <gnomefreak> im always here
[08:20] <teroedni> ohh i never tried it
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> I'd like to know how to do this: "moving gdm to a later start # in /etc/rc2.d/"
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> brasko: I do it with a program called tpb (ThinkPad Buttons).
[08:21] <sorush20> I can't play dvd's help
[08:21] <PeteyPablo> anyone here use win4lin and know where the XP files are stored?
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> brasko: I'm sure some modification of that if necessary at all could work for other computers too.
[08:21] <brasko> O man, it's not built into the Desktop environment anymore?
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> brasko, I know some things are; not sure if any command can be used.
[08:21] <brasko> I used to do it with swordfish, with the debian install I had
[08:22] <brasko> Yeah, it has predetermined actions to short cut keys
[08:22] <brasko> but how useful is that?
[08:22] <teroedni> fanopnaic:You tried playing with alsamixer?
[08:22] <Pygi> gnomefreak: willing to give some ideas on the matter I presented you?
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> brasko, Is swordfish available with Ubuntu?
[08:22] <brasko> None of the things I wantto map are on there?
[08:22] <fanopnaic> teroedni: yes
[08:22] <brasko> I don't know, I was kind of enjoying medacity
[08:22] <gnomefreak> Pygi, is it text only? or gaphical?
[08:22] <brasko> metacity, that is
[08:22] <Kr0ntab> so has anyone configured wpa_supplicant so that it runs with rcS scripts... so that the wireless card is associated before rc40networking runs?  The reason is that my laptop hands on "Configuring network interfaces..." during boot until I ctrl-c it... or it times out.
[08:22] <Pygi> gnomefreak: graphical
[08:23] <Kr0ntab> oops... S40networking
[08:23] <emptystapler> I'm a bit confused about the purpose of Cairo. Is the version of GTK/Gnome Breezy comes with using it already? If not, would enabling it cause UI stuff to be accelerated through OpenGL?
[08:24] <sorush20> I keep getting this error gstpad.c(3377): gst_pad_pull: /internal_thread/thread_textbin/textbin/blender: pull on pad blender:subpicture_sink_0 but it was unlinked
[08:24] <Firesword> ok  guys  gotta run  c y all later
[08:24] <Pygi> !wait in line
[08:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wait in line is like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[08:24] <gnomefreak> Pygi, is there a list of plug-ins for it or you just starting?
[08:24] <blunted> dang
[08:25] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, not that we just started, but still workin' on the core
[08:25] <blunted> i forgot what i was gonna ask
[08:25] <Pygi> hm, lemme open a private chat
[08:25] <blunted> hm
[08:25] <blunted> maybe its the rum and cokes fault
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, Since it seems you have some knowledge in the area, do you know how to move gdm to a later start # in /etc/rc2.d/?
[08:25] <mihai> another question since my coputer is really slow(300mHz and aaabout 64mb of ram) any suggestions on making it use less ram?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, Someone suggested it and I have no idea what that means.
[08:25] <blunted> mihai i think u can make the swap bigger
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> mihai, Are you running X?
[08:26] <blunted> but im not sure
[08:26] <blunted> someone might've been lying when they told me that
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> mihai, I think making the swap bigger will help to an extent, but not infinitely.
[08:26] <nomin> does anyone know if there is a free music mixer like fruityloops for linux?
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> mihai, How big is your swap now?
[08:26] <mihai> not sure
[08:26] <Kr0ntab> /etc/rc2.s/S13gdm is the file...
[08:27] <blunted> nomin i think beast is the same sorta program
[08:27] <Kr0ntab> you can simply rename it to something higher
[08:27] <Kr0ntab> tonyyarusso, that was directed to you... sorry
[08:27] <PeteyPablo> anyway i can view the largest files on my hd through terminal?
[08:28] <yuma> hello
[08:28] <yuma> someone has used the grace6 package?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, Something like instead of S13gdm, maybe S23gdm?  Does it much matter what to?
[08:29] <blunted> how do i disable gdm and just use text mode to login
[08:29] <cello_rasp> nomin: i wish. there are lots of different sequencers but nothing close to fruityloops. your best bet is to use fruityloops under wine (i have no idea if it works or not but i hope hope hope it does)
[08:29] <PeteyPablo> cello_rasp: or use vmware
[08:29] <michael_> hope this is an easy question, I'm using ndiswrapper to enable my wireless device. I use $modprobe ndiswrapper, configure the settings, then activate it. How can I do this on startup
[08:29] <Kr0ntab> yup...
[08:30] <PeteyPablo> michael_: make it a bash script and put it in the startup folder?
[08:30] <michael_> idk how to do that, i'm somewhat a noob
[08:30] <alexissoft> hi
[08:30] <yuma> blunted, you could always delete the rc?.d/ symlink to gdm
[08:30] <emptystapler> should i enable RenderAccel or Exa in Xorg to increase my gui drawing performance?
[08:30] <yuma> blunted, but it has to be a better way to do it
[08:30] <Kr0ntab> tonyyarusso, the first directory that is evalutaed on boot is /etc/rcS.d/    it then goes through the appropriate /etc/rc#.d directory... according to the run level yer in... (default is 2 in Ubuntu)....
[08:31] <cello_rasp> nomin: here is something fro kde.. http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14152
[08:31] <blunted> eh nevermind
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, What is the purpose in life for levels 3-5?
[08:31] <blunted> i dont really care i have gdm
[08:31] <blunted> i just cant remember my real question
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> yuma, I'd be interested in the better way just out of curiosity if you care to give it.
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> tonyyarusso, well.. in Ubuntu.. they're all the same as level 2...  but you can choose to have yer system run certain things in one runlevel than you would in others....
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> just gives you a lot of options...
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, And then set up different grub options for each of them, so you could boot according to your needs for that session?
[08:33] <Kr0ntab> looks through yer /etc/rc2 - 5 directories... and compare the contents...
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> I don't know for certain if you can specify which run level you want to boot with grub... I just havent done that before.... but you can run "init #" from a command line one yer booted...  and it will drop you into that run level...
[08:34] <AndrewX_> I can't install a new kernel without getting a "Kernel Panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs" error.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, Cool.  Will have to try that some time.
[08:34] <dragoon> Yeah, you can tell grub to boot at a specific level.
[08:35] <Kr0ntab> dragoon, cool.
[08:35] <blunted> AndrewX; i get that same crap
[08:35] <blunted> so i just dont use my new kernel
[08:35] <yuma> tonyyarusso, i'd like to know the better way too. I just know there's another one because that one is pretty ugly...
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Ah.  Maybe I'll stumble across it.
[08:36] <michael_> how can I add something to startup? isn't their a certain file i can just add a line too?
[08:36] <michael_> I just want to add modprobe ndiswrapper
[08:37] <mokilog> hallo
[08:37] <nomin> it looks like beast does the same drumming stuff as fruity loops
[08:37] <yuma> tonyyarusso, what about deleting /etc/rc3.d/S13gdm and changing the default init to 3 in /etc/inittab?
[08:37] <Kr0ntab> michael_, if you want a module to start at boot... put the module in /etc/modules
[08:37] <blunted> nomin; so its kinda what you were lookin for?
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> yuma: That sounds like it would work.  Would have to try it.
[08:38] <blunted> or not?
[08:38] <nomin> oops, I meant hydrogen
[08:38] <blunted> cool
[08:38] <blunted> ima get that then
[08:39] <Xer0_h4x> I'v had my windows drive mounted in /mnt/ntfs for awhile and now nothing shows up when i enter the folder...i put it in fstab and everyting, how do i unmount a drive and hound it to the folder agian? :x i forgot
[08:39] <wezzer> good evening
[08:39] <michael_> Kr0ntab: can i just add $modprobe ndiswraper to the modules file?
[08:39] <wezzer> is there package for f-spot 0.0.15 ?
[08:39] <wezzer> for ubuntu I mean
[08:39] <nomin> blunted, hydrogen probably does the same drumming stuff, but not other instruments.  maybe I can combine programs somehow
[08:39] <Kr0ntab> just    ndiswrapper
[08:40] <michael_> k, ty
[08:40] <sorush20> why doens't gmplayer plugin  work for firefox 1.5 ?
[08:40] <Kr0ntab> you'll see the structure in there...
[08:40] <michael_> ttyl everybody
[08:40] <dragoon> wezzer, don't think so. it's 0.1.3 for 5.10
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> Not successful with that.
[08:41] <yuma> tonyyarusso, what did you tried?
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, I don't think that's actually solving my issue there.
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> yuma: For some reason /etc/init.d/gdm start disables my console switching.
[08:42] <dragoon> wezzer, check out the backports forum perhaps.
[08:42] <wezzer> dragoon: damn, I need 0.0.15 because that has export to gallery2
[08:42] <Paradosso> hi everybody, how do I configure fonts under ubuntu?
[08:42] <Xer0_h4x> I'v had my windows drive mounted in /mnt/ntfs for awhile and now nothing shows up when i enter the folder...i put it in fstab and everyting, how do i unmount a drive and hound it to the folder agian? :x i forgot
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> yuma: So I'm actually still very much open to ideas.
[08:42] <wezzer> dragoon: I tried to compile it already, but it complains some strange error when running it
[08:42] <TranceRiver> Question. I'm switching to a distro of linux today. I know that you guys are probably going to say ubuntu, but is it a good choice?
[08:42] <TranceRiver> I'm completly new to linux.
[08:42] <TranceRiver> I'm thinking Ubuntu, SuSE, or Gentoo.
[08:43] <Stew_Lappy> ubuntu!
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Just restarted it outside of the boot sequence this time.
[08:43] <Stew_Lappy> I switched from Suse to Ubuntu - loving it
[08:43] <AndrewX_> blunted: whats up with that anyway? the default 386 kernel from the CD works, but whenever I apt-get a new one or even compile a new one, kernel panic
[08:43] <yuma> tonyyarusso, so you can't change the TTY using Ctrl+Alt+F#?
[08:43] <spacey> TranceRiver, Ubuntu is ideal for desktop linux use
[08:43] <Kr0ntab> tonyyarusso, wait... yer console switching is disabled with the invocation of gdm?  describe problem.
[08:43] <Dwayne> Trance Kubuntu...you'll never go back..
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Correct.
[08:43] <yuma> tonyyarusso, do you spawn the ttys in inittab?
[08:43] <TranceRiver> Kubuntu > Ubuntu?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, See above messages to yuma.
[08:43] <spacey> TranceRiver, not if you ask me, matter of taste
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> yuma, Don't know.
[08:44] <TranceRiver> Ah okay.
[08:44] <spacey> you can try both ofcourse
[08:44] <Dwayne> Trance: Kubuntu: Ubuntu with KDE..
[08:44] <TranceRiver> Fair enough.
[08:44] <TranceRiver> Yeah.
[08:44] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, you'll be glad if you got Ubuntu man, you can get alot of current programs and its the best distro to grow up with linux in, after that you'll know how to make good decisions
[08:44] <emptystapler> dear god... I just enabled EXA and composite extensions in XORG with my Radeon 9600xt and the difference in graphics performance is incredible
[08:44] <TranceRiver> Does it lose any features going from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[08:44] <Xer0_h4x> like get get more deaper
[08:44] <Xer0_h4x> and ubuntu lets you do all of that
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> yuma and Kr0ntab: Once I'm logged in to the desktop, in gnome-terminal I can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.
[08:44] <yuma> tonyyarusso,  something like '1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1' in /etc/inittab
[08:44] <PeteyPablo> TranceRiver: no
[08:44] <Dwayne> TranceRiver: no
[08:44] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, nope just a different window manager
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> yuma and Kr0ntab: I then have full ability to switch between my ttys.
[08:44] <TranceRiver> Hmm.
[08:44] <andross> it takes one command once you have ubuntu installed to get all of the kubuntu packages doenst it
[08:44] <TranceRiver> I think I'm going to try Ubuntu first.
[08:44] <Linfan> is there away to fine tune contrast etc on ubuntu for my laptop lcd? it needs some fine tunning
[08:45] <andross> so you can play with them both
[08:45] <emptystapler> Is there some reason the EXA thing isn't more widely talked about?
[08:45] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, but ubuntu would be for an average system and kubuntu is a bit lighter on the CPU
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> yuma and Kr0ntab: I maintain that ability if I then startx from one of them, but not if I start gdm.
[08:45] <nomin> it looks like beast and hydrogen might make a good combo.  I'm gonna install them and see how they are.
[08:45] <spiregrain> linfan - what type of graphics chip is in your lappy?
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> yuma: I'll look for that.
[08:45] <TranceRiver> I found an offer on craigslist for a 933 mhz machine. Comes with everything you need, and a 15 inch monitor for 100 bucks.
[08:45] <TranceRiver> Is that a fair deal?
[08:45] <phos-phoros> emptystapler, EXA thing?
[08:45] <TranceRiver> And will it run ubuntu okay?
[08:45] <TranceRiver> PIII, that is.
[08:45] <Linfan> i have a intel integrated graphics
[08:45] <thiago_> what is the adress ubuntu br???
[08:45] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, yeah and it run Ubuntu perfectly :)
[08:45] <yuma> tonyyarusso, you should have them, because if not you couldn't switch even when disabling gdm
[08:45] <emptystapler> phos-phoros: evidently it enables 3d acceleration support for 2d operations in the UI
[08:46] <dabaR> !pt
[08:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:46] <TranceRiver> okay. He's asking for 75 for the computer alone, or 100 with everything. I think 25 bucks for a 15 inch monitor, keyboard, and mouse it fair.
[08:46] <spiregrain> linfan - Dunno, then.  I used to have an nvidia-based laptop, and nvidia have a little gui app to set brightness, etc
[08:46] <thiago_> thanks
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Ah.
[08:46] <TranceRiver> But 933 is slow as shit on Windows XP, it wont be like that, correct?
[08:46] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, thast a really good deal!
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Yeah, I spawn 1-6.
[08:46] <Linfan> intel does too but i dont see it on ubuntu
[08:46] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, oh god no it will be ALOT faster
[08:46] <Xer0_h4x> and more stable ;)
[08:46] <TranceRiver> okay
[08:47] <TranceRiver> any need-be programs that I need that aren't installed on ubuntu?
[08:47] <yuma> tonyyarusso, then it should be somthing related to gdm alone...
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> yuma: 1 is :2345 while 2-6 are :23 only.
[08:47] <TranceRiver> For example a need be install on windows xp is office.
[08:47] <yuma> tonyyarusso, the same as me...
[08:47] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, you get EVERYTHING you need
[08:47] <Xer0_h4x> if now
[08:47] <yuma> tonyyarusso, have you changed somthing in the gdm configuration?
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> yuma: So then what?
[08:47] <Xer0_h4x> ubntu will most likely have it
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> yuma: I don't think I even know how.
[08:47] <Shadyman> Can someone do me a favor please? If you have wpa_supplicant, could you pastebin your /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant file for me?
[08:47] <Stew_Lappy> TranceRiver Open Office is installed, you will need to add dvd and mp3 support - but all so easy
[08:47] <Xer0_h4x> ubuntu, what do you use your computer
[08:48] <Mandor-> greetings, what kind of package should I look into if I want to watch TV on my breezy? I'd like to know what software to install
[08:48] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, what do you use your computer for?
[08:48] <Xer0_h4x> anything on window your afraid wont be on linux?
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Someone suggested a driver conflict of some sort, but I wasn't able to pinpoint anything.
[08:48] <Kr0ntab> Shadyman, did you delete yers?
[08:48] <yuma> tonyyarusso, i don't think it would be a driver conflict
[08:48] <Shadyman> Kr0ntab: Almost.
[08:48] <TranceRiver> Well, I'm going to use linux for the following. Programming the AVR with C. General IRC, AIM, browsing, some music, ect.
[08:48] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[08:48] <TranceRiver> I'll keep this machine for when I need my game fix.
[08:48] <Shadyman> Kr0ntab: Butchered it enoguh, though
[08:49] <TranceRiver> I'll get Wine, or whatever if I need to run Exe's.
[08:49] <Kr0ntab> Shadyman, why not just do a repair?
[08:49] <TranceRiver> but I'll try to avoid any windows programs.
[08:49] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, :D some games dont need wine to run also
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> yuma: If you have any ideas of what it could be, please throw them out here, and maybe I'll find something useful.  Not sure where to even look myself.
[08:49] <TranceRiver> Xer0_h4x: well, with a 933 machine I wont be playing many games.
[08:49] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, theres many alternatives that do the same thing and/or better on linux
[08:49] <Shadyman> Kr0ntab: It's almost working, don't want to nerf everything else
[08:50] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, my main computer is 500 mhz :) and i play games an 3D model and animation with it xD
[08:50] <yuma> tonyyarusso, i'm reading the gdm.conf, in order to find if there's something that blocks the ctrl+alt+F1
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Oh, I have a login theme installed, but that worked before this problem happened.
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Okay.
[08:50] <TranceRiver> The games I mostly play (not often) is Counter-Strike: Source, and some FPS games.
[08:50] <TranceRiver> Other that that... nothing really
[08:50] <xix_xeaon> could anyone help me with samba? I can't connect to it from windows...
[08:50] <cello_rasp> xix: #samba :)
[08:51] <xix_xeaon> cello_rasp: oh ; )
[08:51] <Paradosso> !fonts
[08:51] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:51] <Shadyman> Is there a room for ndiswrapper or wpa_supplicant?
[08:51] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, yes wine can do that and theres Returne to Castle Wolfinstien or w/e for linux :D and an open source FPS called cube (www.cubeengine.com
[08:51] <Unity> is there a way to force my nvidia card to anti-alias everything it renders? there was a way in windows
[08:51] <Xer0_h4x>  Unity, what window manager?
[08:51] <TranceRiver> alright alright... I'll check it out.
[08:52] <TranceRiver> I need to add mp3 support?
[08:52] <apokryphos> !mp3
[08:52] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:52] <Xer0_h4x> alright,  TranceRiv, member theres good people in here
[08:52] <Unity> Xer0_h4x, gnome on Xorg
[08:52] <Kr0ntab> Shadyman,  I queried ya...
[08:52] <TranceRiver> I would think that would be built in.
[08:52] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, you said it :D
[08:52] <Xer0_h4x> even movies
[08:52] <Xer0_h4x> anythign
[08:52] <Xer0_h4x> any music type if you want
[08:52] <Shadyman> Kr0ntab: Yeah?
[08:52] <DShepherd> happy new year one and all! :)
[08:52] <Xer0_h4x>  Unity, not sure if its called this but, xorg composite? or w/e
[08:52] <Kr0ntab> Shadyman, PM me
[08:53] <Kr0ntab> I'll paste it in there
[08:53] <Xer0_h4x> Happy New Year :)
[08:53] <greenpenguin13> happy birthday
[08:53] <DShepherd> greenpenguin13: :-D lol
[08:53] <TranceRiver> What's the biggest downfall to linux do you think?
[08:53] <Unity> Xer0_h4x, xorg composite? can you explain more? does that go in my xorg.conf or something?
[08:53] <Pygi> Kr0ntab: no pasting...
[08:53] <TranceRiver> Game compatibility?
[08:53] <yuma> tonyyarusso, have you tried dpkg-reconfigure gdm, just in case that would change anything...
[08:53] <Xer0_h4x> I'v had my windows drive mounted in /mnt/ntfs for awhile and now nothing shows up when i enter the folder...i put it in fstab and everyting, how do i unmount a drive and hound it to the folder agian? :x i forgot
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> yuma: No, I haven't.  Will do.
[08:54] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, quite a bit achully now
[08:54] <Pygi> Xer0: umount
[08:54] <Xer0_h4x> LOL
[08:54] <Xer0_h4x> i spelt it wrong
[08:54] <Xer0_h4x> thx
[08:54] <Shadyman> Kr0ntab: ok
[08:54] <yuma> tonyyarusso, and you can change to TTY doing a startx, a X& gnome-session, but you can't when you load the gdm first. Is that ok?
[08:54] <Xer0_h4x> Pygi, sudo: unmount: command not found
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Can I do the reconfigure with it running, or should I stop it first?
[08:55] <Xer0_h4x>  :\
[08:55] <TranceRiver> Does ubuntu have a 'image mounting system' built in?
[08:55] <yuma> tonyyarusso, you should stop it, just in case it has to do something...
[08:55] <Pygi> UMOUNT
[08:55] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, not sure, like deamen toolz in window?
[08:55] <Pygi> not UNMOUNT :P
[08:55] <TranceRiver> Yes
[08:55] <alvanson> I know this is OT, but maybe some of you have come across this: how can I get Windows to unmount a drive when it hibernates so that if I make changes to the same drive in Linux then unhiberate windows, the filesystem doesn't go all dumb?
[08:55] <TranceRiver> Or like Alcohol 120%
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> yuma: What do you mean by X& gnome-session?  Haven't done that.
[08:55] <Xer0_h4x>  Pygi, sorry :x
[08:55] <sorush20> is there a Babylon equivalent in linux?
[08:55] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv yes, aburning program?
[08:56] <Xer0_h4x> if so yes
[08:56] <dabaR> alvanson: omg...herecy
[08:56] <TranceRiver> Okay.
[08:56] <TranceRiver> Do I need to install WINE?
[08:56] <alvanson> dabaR, I know :(  I also need to know how to do the same in Linux, but google is helping me with that one...
[08:56] <yuma> tonyyarusso, with X& you load the xserver in the background, and with gnome-session, i'm not pretty sure (i used fluxbox), but you load the gnome desktop
[08:56] <redguy> TranceRiver: I could tell you how to do that from the commandline, not sure if there's a GUI for that
[08:56] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv yes it's very simple tho
[08:56] <TranceRiver> Okay.
[08:56] <Xer0_h4x> come here and ask when your there
[08:56] <TranceRiver> I'm going to call the guy and say I want the computer.
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> yuma: I'll test that in a minute.
[08:57] <yuma> ok
[08:57] <TranceRiver> 256 ram fair enough for linux?
[08:57] <Amaranth> yeah
[08:57] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, alright good stuff come back if you need hekop :)
[08:57] <TranceRiver> okay
[08:57] <redguy> TranceRiver: the more the better :-)
[08:57] <pramz> TranceRiver: yes, but i would recommend at least 512megs
[08:57] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, but but you can always put more in right?
[08:57] <Amaranth> more is always better, but 256 is ok
[08:57] <Unity> example: mount -o loop -t iso9660 -r /home/image/mndrk71.iso /mnt/iso/mndrk71
[08:57] <TranceRiver> Right.
[08:57] <TranceRiver> hmm, okay thanks unity, I'll notepad that.
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> TranceRiver, The actual spec Ubuntu claims is 128.
[08:57] <thegladiator> #java
[08:58] <redguy> tonyyarusso: really?
[08:58] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, do you know how to setup the partions ?
[08:58] <Mazin> does anyone know why GParted would have trouble resizing an Ext3 partition?
[08:58] <Kindred> out of interest.. what would break if a user deleted all the hidden files in their home dir?
[08:58] <Xer0_h4x> if not reading documentation will save you ALOT of linux learnign time
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> redguy: Yeah, looked it up once.  I'll see if I can find the page again.
[08:58] <Xer0_h4x> i learned that the hard way :\
[08:58] <Mazin> GParted will claim to do something, but after it's done nothing's changed
[08:58] <TranceRiver> Also, one more thing. I'm buying a router too so I can connect both via internet. I plan on moving this 2 floors above me, so it will need to be wireless. I've had some experiance with routers, and I absolutely hate them. Does anyone know any routers that seem to be better than others? (Ie port forwarding, Direct connecting in IRC, ect)?
[08:59] <Xer0_h4x>  TranceRiv, not sure about the router...but the wireless part your gonna wanna ask about (i dont know about it)
[08:59] <odat> hi everyone
[08:59] <Xer0_h4x> i hear its a touchy not sure
[08:59] <Xer0_h4x> hello odat
[08:59] <Mazin> What's the best way to resize an Ext3 partition?
[08:59] <ubuntu_> guys
[09:00] <odat> anyone encountered some weird dependcy errors when trying to install mplayer?
[09:00] <luthy> hello
[09:00] <luthy> i have a question
[09:00] <Xer0_h4x> odat, like it trys to download from a website?
[09:00] <Xer0_h4x> in apt-get
[09:00] <luthy> i dl Flash player on my comp. i have ubuntu BTW, and the flash player wont work on this Flash Chat that i go on
[09:00] <odat> Xer0_h4x, when trying to install it through synaptic
[09:01] <smiroldo> hi and happy new year! someone could tell me which script run an apt-get update when i start my ubuntu system?
[09:01] <Xer0_h4x> odat, oh, no sorry
[09:01] <odat> Xer0_h4x, the only version i have in synaptic for mplayer are cvs versions
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> redguy: Here it is: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/releasenotes510#2.0
[09:01] <imperfect-> Happy new year.
[09:01] <Xer0_h4x> odat search ubntu mplayer on google, thats got it you gotta add a thing to sources.list i'm sure
[09:01] <ubuntu_> hey guys
[09:02] <Xer0_h4x> hello ubuntu_
[09:02] <redguy> tonyyarusso: this seems far too little
[09:02] <luthy> how come flash player won work on my comp? has anyone had simmilar probs?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> .back
[09:03] <ubuntu_> hello
[09:03] <Xer0_h4x> HI!!
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> redguy: Well, apparently it's possible anyway.  I myself have 512, so hey.
[09:03] <luthy> hi
[09:03] <imperfect-> Anyone here got a snaptics touchpad?
[09:03] <luthy> can anyone here answer my question?
[09:03] <gnomefreak> luthy, have you asked it yet?
[09:03] <luthy> yes
[09:03] <Xer0_h4x>  luthy, just ask away and if someone knows it they'll answer
[09:03] <sethk> imperfect-, sure
[09:03] <gnomefreak> oops sorry
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> luthy: Standalone player or browser plugin?
[09:04] <spiregrain> imperfect-- not sure, but it does the scrolling thing
[09:04] <luthy> I tried to DL Macromedia Flash Player, b/c i go to a flash chat, and i DL it and it wont work
[09:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell luthy about flash
[09:04] <luthy> both
[09:04] <ubuntu_> how do  i share some mounted partitions on the network plz?
[09:04] <luthy> how do i dl the plugin for Mozzila?
[09:04] <redguy> tonyyarusso: since this is the minimum, I have to back off. But this is almost certainly too little for normal usage...
[09:04] <Xer0_h4x> abpt is ta;lomg tp ypu
[09:04] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[09:05] <Xer0_h4x> LMFAO
[09:05] <ubuntu_> cuz my comp aint workin so im runnin the live 5.10 ubunt
[09:05] <Xer0_h4x> a bot is talking to you *
[09:05] <ubuntu_> ubuntu*
[09:05] <Xer0_h4x>  ubuntu_, did your comp not work while on windoze?
[09:05] <odat> xerophyte, no help either    has anyone been able to install Mplayer through synaptic?
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> luthy: apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla or flashplugin-nonfree.
[09:05] <luthy> ok
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> odat: Yes.
[09:06] <ubuntu_> indeed
[09:06] <ubuntu_> it shuts down by itself
[09:06] <Xer0_h4x> the problem = windows
[09:06] <ubuntu_> after a power down of the entire town's electrical network
[09:06] <Xer0_h4x> your safe here on linux :D
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> odat: mplayer-386 from multi.
[09:06] <Xer0_h4x> ..oh
[09:06] <fr0x> Anyone has experience with suspend2 hibernate?
[09:06] <ubuntu_> my third partition got damaged n since then it shuts down by itself
[09:07] <Xer0_h4x> ouch
[09:07] <SpookyNik> i just followed the instructions on the wiki for installing firefox 1.5 from mozilla... and for some reason i can only launch firefox with sudo... any other method of starting it up fails
[09:07] <odat> tonyyarusso, hmmm when i try mine can't resolve the dependecies
[09:07] <sethk> ubuntu_, buy a UPS
[09:07] <TranceRiver> Why does everyone spell it windoze?
[09:07] <SpookyNik> anyone have any idea what could cause that?
[09:07] <ubuntu_> yeh i will
[09:07] <sethk> TranceRiver, whi nut?
[09:07] <dabaR> zause we are leet
[09:07] <ubuntu_> but this one's a laptop
[09:07] <pinkisntwell> what's a package diversion?
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> odat: Have you tried manually doing the dependencies reported ahead of time and then trying it again?
[09:07] <Xer0_h4x> TranceRiv, we really not like windows, i really like 'Winblows' :)
[09:07] <TranceRiver> dun noi dude just wondering lololo jkjojkokok bff lylab bbq
[09:07] <dabaR> kalimera pinkisntwell
[09:08] <Xer0_h4x> this is part of the free worls
[09:08] <Xer0_h4x> world
[09:08] <Xer0_h4x> ^_^
[09:08] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: where did you see that.
[09:08] <fr0x> I have just installed suspend2 and it works fine though when it finishes copying all files the power off section comes, unfortunately it never power off the system so I have to do it manually while it should power off the system automatically, any idea why?
[09:08] <spiregrain> fr0x - I could not get it to work on a Toshiba Equium A60
[09:08] <pinkisntwell> dabaR: kalimera. I saw it in dpkg-divert
[09:08] <epitk> where can i get e newer version of libqt3-mt?
[09:08] <fr0x> spiregrain, so you suggest me to say thanks and shut up, huh ? ;)
[09:08] <SpookyNik> no one has any idea about firefox?
[09:08] <Xer0_h4x> Is there a readon firefox 1.5 isnt in the repos?
[09:09] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell Xer0_h4x about firefox 15
[09:09] <Xer0_h4x> SpookyNik, did you install it as root?
[09:09] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell Xer0_h4x about firefox15
[09:09] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: "man dpkg-divert"
[09:09] <fr0x> Xer0_h4x, I have been heard because they have to get it completely ubuntu supported - It takes time
[09:09] <luthy> ok neither one of those commands worked
[09:09] <pinkisntwell> dabaR: I read it and don't understand
[09:09] <Xer0_h4x> oh ok
[09:09] <dabaR> pinkisntwell: then it is not something you need, or is it?
[09:09] <luthy> i need to get flashplayer working in this comp
[09:09] <ubuntu_> tho, how could i share the mounted partitions (they mounted in root read only)
[09:09] <SpookyNik> oh i think i might have hehe
[09:10] <pinkisntwell> it is because it suggests it in the ff 1.5 installation
[09:10] <Xer0_h4x> :)
[09:10] <Mazin> What's the best way to resize an Ext3 partition?
[09:10] <fr0x> 1.5 is much better
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> Xer0_h4x, Yes, because Ubuntu policy is to only include new developments in software in the next upcoming release, and let other volunteers take them into backports if they so choose, so the official team can focus their energies on moving on to the next one.
[09:10] <imperfect-> Anyone here got a snaptics touchpad?
[09:10] <fr0x> I suggest to install it manually.
[09:10] <spiregrain> fr0x - yeah you punks with your questions
[09:10] <Xer0_h4x> tonyyarus, ooooh alright thanks
[09:10] <SpookyNik> should i just chmod the firefox dir then?
[09:10] <luthy> how do i install Macromedia flash Player manually
[09:10] <Xer0_h4x> ok fr0x, will do
[09:10] <odat> tonyyarusso, it is asking for libjack0.100.0-0 which is not in the repositories
[09:10] <fr0x> spiregrain, get rid of your lame toshiba
[09:11] <Xer0_h4x> luthy your questions was answered
[09:11] <luthy> yeah but they didnt work
[09:11] <epitk> i need libqt3-mt >= 3:3.3.3.2 who knows where to get?
[09:11] <luthy> i opened up the terminal and put in the command and didnt work
[09:11] <dabaR> tell imperfect  about wiki SynapticsTouchpadHowto
[09:12] <luthy> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:12] <SpookyNik> i followed the directiong at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion step by step though
[09:12] <spiregrain> It hung up when writing the image out to the disk
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> odat: Which version of mplayer are you trying to get?  I see libjack0.80.  Your package sounds like the next gstreamer set, which is in dapper.
[09:12] <imperfect-> well I'm using tpconfig
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> SpookyNik, Probably.
[09:13] <chapium> hi, gdesklets when it loads in the startup makes the splash screen hang until the desktop is clicked.  Anyone know what the deal with this is?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> SpookyNik, Don't remember if I had that problem.
[09:13] <SpookyNik> which step should i not use sudo with?
[09:13] <spiregrain> luthy - you should quit synaptic or any other package-type aps and try again
[09:13] <imperfect-> dabaR: where do I find that synaptics?
[09:13] <nomin> galan also looks like a good program
[09:13] <Goek> is there any easy programs for administrating ones network connections?
[09:14] <odat> tonyyarusso, i found the problem it was one of my repositories that i use for realplayer and w32's
[09:14] <spiregrain> Goek- System/Administration/Networking
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> odat: Ah.
[09:14] <spiregrain> on the menus
[09:14] <odat> tonyyarusso, now should i use 386 or 586?
[09:14] <SpookyNik> oivey
[09:14] <bladez> guys
[09:15] <bladez> can someone pls help me?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> odat: I did 586 initially, but something later wanted 386 for a dependency, and that's been working fine since.
[09:15] <mase> where do iget the stdc++ library
[09:15] <bladez> gotta format it but i got no os on it
[09:15] <bladez> im runnin the live version of the 5.10 ubuntu
[09:15] <bladez> n i wanna backup my data on another comp
[09:15] <Chousuke> bladez: what do you need to format it to?
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> mase: apt-get install libstdc++5 with the main repo.
[09:16] <bladez> ntfs
[09:16] <Chousuke> can't do that with Ubuntu
[09:16] <titanium_platypu> what's the Ubuntu equivalent of Fedora's /etc/modprobe.conf ?
[09:16] <spiregrain> bladez - do you need to partition it too?
[09:16] <bladez> no
[09:16] <bladez> spiregrain,  its already done
[09:16] <bladez> on ntfs
[09:16] <bladez> i wanna share it on the network
[09:16] <mase> tonyyarusso, says its already newest version... but aMSN says it cant detect the stdc++ library
[09:16] <Linuturk> you can't use the 32-bit version of ubuntu on a 64-bit machine, can you?
[09:16] <gnomefreak> Linuturk, yes you can
[09:17] <Linuturk> gnomefreak, when I tried on my laptop, it wigged out
[09:17] <gnomefreak> amd 64 supports both 32 and 64 bit
[09:17] <Linuturk> gnome wouldn't load up
[09:17] <spiregrain> bladez - don't understand it then.  If you format it, you'll delete everything off it.
[09:17] <francesco> hi. does anybody knows of major problems in dapper atm?
[09:17] <imperfect-> wiki
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> mase: Not sure what the issue is then.
[09:17] <bladez> yeah thats why i need to backup everythin on it on anthother comp
[09:17] <bladez> BRB
[09:17] <Linuturk> gnomefreak, i was using the live cd . . .
[09:17] <jet> https://profits4investingtoo.com/?ref=investmaster1
[09:17] <gnomefreak> francesco,  take a look at bugzilla
[09:17] <apokryphos> francesco: dbus (going through a transition), locales, generally; some sound issues flying about.
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> francesco, Not specifically, just that I've been told it isn't ready for general use for most people yet.
[09:18] <jet> https://profits4investingtoo.com/?ref=investmaster1
[09:18] <gnomefreak> locales seems to be the hardest to get around tho that i have seen
[09:18] <francesco> gnomefreak, apokryphos, tonyyarusso: thanks
[09:18] <francesco> tonyyarusso: ok, that's enough for me. i'll give it a try
[09:18] <spiregrain> jet--
[09:19] <gnomefreak> its in alpha form that is pre beta give it time
[09:20] <epitk> hello world, does really nobody knows where to get newest versions of libqt3-mt?
[09:20] <francesco> just checking if there was something breaking-everything-as-hell as the g++ transition in hoary :)
[09:21] <BxL> gnomefreak you screwed up my pc with that dapper install
[09:21] <gnomefreak> lol BxL
[09:21] <bladez> back
[09:21] <Pygi> !wait in line
[09:21] <ubotu> wait in line is, like, totally, like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[09:21] <spiregrain> bxl++
[09:21] <Pygi> gnomefreak: this "wait in line" thingy is great :)
[09:21] <TokenBad> ok can someone tell me what would cause this and how to fix it...the power went out at my house..when it came back on I booted my system...and restarted azureus..and now its giving me an error of (read only file system) open fails
[09:22] <gnomefreak> Pygi, ive never used it
[09:22] <bladez> so .. my partitions are messed up really bad
[09:22] <bladez> so i wanna mount the and share them on the local network
[09:22] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, it's about time to start using it :)
[09:22] <odin> Is there any way, in a multi-head setup, to make one display be blank unless it's called for from the primary?  Like, no loading the WM or anything.
[09:22] <bladez> how do i share them?
[09:22] <spiregrain> so, bladez, can ubuntu see your ntfs hard-disk in ubuntu
[09:22] <bladez> it can if i mount them
[09:23] <gnomefreak> !mount
[09:23] <ubotu> mount is, like, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:23] <bladez> well i know thnx
[09:23] <Pygi> !windowsdrives
[09:23] <ubotu> well, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:23] <spiregrain> bladez - you could try mounting them in "System/Administration/Disks"
[09:23] <titanium_platypu> well, I figured it out.
[09:23] <spiregrain> bladez- and sharing them with "System/Administration/Shared Folders"
[09:23] <sethk> bladez, I don't quite see what you are getting at.  You want to share them _because_ they are messed up?
[09:24] <bladez> yes indeed
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> X& gnome-session didn't work, btw.
[09:24] <chapium> bladez, what spiregrain says should do the trick
[09:24] <markus-_-> how do i change permissions on a file
[09:24] <markus-_-> i'm not sure why its locked in the first place
[09:24] <Xenguy> markus-_-: chmod
[09:24] <Pygi> markus: chmod :)
[09:25] <chapium> markus-_-, check the owner of the file too
[09:25] <sethk> markus-_-, locked is probably not what you mean
[09:25] <odin> !waitinline
[09:25] <ubotu> odin: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:25] <chapium> markus-_-, if you are in gnome you can right click it and check its properties
[09:25] <Pygi> no, odin :/
[09:25] <Pygi> !wait in line
[09:25] <ubotu> methinks wait in line is like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[09:25] <odin> !wait in line
[09:25] <Pygi> no, do not abuse...
[09:25] <Stew_Lappy> TranceRiver ???
[09:25] <markus-_-> i did that and when i view it with the file browser it has a lock on it
[09:26] <odin> Oh, I thought it was like a linksheet or something more than in the motd
[09:26] <spiregrain> yeah, what I said
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> yuma: No go on X& gnome-session.
[09:27] <TokenBad> ok can someone tell me what would cause this and how to fix it...the power went out at my house..when it came back on I booted my system...and restarted azureus..and now its giving me an error of (read only file system) open fails
[09:27] <bladez> dang
[09:27] <yuma> tonyyarusso, what did he say?
[09:27] <spiregrain> TokenBad- what is the result of doing a "df"
[09:27] <SpookyNik> argle, i cant get firefox to run without using sudo firefox
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> When I tried doing that from my tty, it opened up the sort of grainy brown initial X background with the X-shaped cursor, and hung there.
[09:28] <bladez> im sendin in a  mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3/ /System/Administration/Shared Folders/hda3
[09:28] <bladez>  but it doesnt do anythin
[09:28] <TokenBad> shows my 2 drives and 2 tmpfs files
[09:29] <spiregrain> bladez - does it not complian in an informative way?
[09:29] <bladez> it does
[09:29] <markus-_-> the file is on a windows fat32 partition
[09:29] <yuma> tonyyarusso, hmmm, then, to run gnome-desktop you have to run a different thing than gnome-session..
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Sorry, ^^.
[09:29] <markus-_-> i just mounted that partition
[09:29] <bladez> it shows me the usage help thingy
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> yuma: gnome-session did exist though.
[09:29] <markus-_-> and it shows me 3 files are locked
[09:29] <TokenBad> spiregrain, shows my 2 drives and 2 tmpfs files
[09:29] <markus-_-> when i view it in file browser
[09:29] <SpookyNik> could the fact that my .mozilla dir is owned by root affect firefox? ;)
[09:30] <spiregrain> token - can you save a file to your disk?  is it read-only, somehow/?
[09:30] <Keegan_Witt> anyone have an idea why when I add universe repo, symantec doesn't remember across sessions?
[09:30] <markus-_-> when i try to view the permissions for My Music it says i am not the owner
[09:30] <TokenBad> spiregrain, it wasn't before the power went out....but not sure now...
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> SpookyNik, Naw.  Why would it do that?
[09:30] <Keegan_Witt> *synaptic I mean
[09:30] <Kindred> bladez: firstly make sure you have a mount point first (a folder called hda3 in that location) and secondly.. your path has a space in it which you might want to fix..
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> SpookyNik, Always fun to finally stumble across the ridiculously simple, eh?
[09:31] <navarone> markus are you in windows or ubuntu now?
[09:31] <bladez> okiz
[09:31] <bladez> ty
[09:31] <TokenBad> spiregrain, I just tried to save to drive..and says can't
[09:31] <odin> !ubotu help
[09:31] <yuma> tonyyarusso, instead of gnome-session run gnome-wm
[09:31] <Friar> how do i get dapper?
[09:32] <bladez> dang
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Okay.
[09:32] <navarone> markus I will paste my fstab entry for my fat32 partition and you can compare against your own
[09:32] <TokenBad> spiregrain, should I try rebooting and see if that fixes it?
[09:32] <bladez> where should i mount it to be able to see it on the network?
[09:32] <markus-_-> in shell..... how do i deal with a windows folder that has spaces in the name like ..... My Music
[09:32] <odin> !ubotu lobotomy
[09:32] <ubotu> odin: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:32] <SpookyNik> yeah that was it. for some reason .mozilla was created as owned by root
[09:32] <SpookyNik> whoops
[09:32] <bladez> markus-_-, "My Music"
[09:32] <spiregrain> token- yes, do that.  It's likley that it's decided to mount readonly as a precautionary measure
[09:33] <TokenBad> ok
[09:33] <TokenBad> brb and let you know how it goes
[09:33] <bladez> markus-_-, sry i dunno how the (") are called :(
[09:33] <Xer0_h4x> Soo
[09:33] <bladez> i forgot
[09:33] <Xer0_h4x> SHOOT
[09:33] <spiregrain> after the powercut did not cleanly unmount the drive
[09:33] <Xer0_h4x> 
[09:33] <Xer0_h4x> calvino.freenode.net/#ubuntu:
[09:33] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[09:33] <navarone> !pastebin
[09:33] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:34] <navarone> markus ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6465
[09:34] <markus-_-> what is my system user name?
[09:34] <markus-_-> lol
[09:34] <markus-_-> is it me
[09:34] <sorush20> Seveas: I keep getting that its forbidden to get the w32codec's any help] 
[09:34] <Keegan_Witt> everytime I start synaptic, the universe repos are unchecked, even though I checked them before
[09:35] <Keegan_Witt> I also tried editing the /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Same thing.
[09:35] <navarone> markus user is just user...that's direct from my fstab...no user specified
[09:35] <gnomefreak> Keegan_Witt,  did you run sudo apt-get update after you save them?
[09:35] <markus-_-> sudo chown system_username /location_of_files_or_folders
[09:35] <markus-_-> i'm trying to do that
[09:35] <Keegan_Witt> no, I will  try that
[09:36] <bipolar> wtf... I'm trying to exclude some directorys from a tar backup. I should use "--exclude=Music" to exclude the directory called Music, right?
[09:36] <markus-_-> ahhh
[09:36] <markus-_-> i think i see
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Still have yet to try dpkg-reconfigure gdm, should I do that now?
[09:36] <yuma> tonyyarusso, try it, but i'm not sure it would help you
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Okay.
[09:36] <SpookyNik> although now i am getting an error when i try to create a profile. Profile couldent be created. probbaly the chosen folder isnt writeable. "Exception component returned failurecode 0x80520015. NS_ERROR_FILE_ACCESS_DENIED
[09:36] <markus-_-> nope
[09:37] <ppd> hello! happy new year to all. Is it somehow possible to get a progress bar when unmounting removable devices with nautilus?
[09:37] <Keegan_Witt> gnomefreak, still unchecked
[09:37] <SpookyNik> then something about chrome://mozillaapps/content/profile/createprofilewizard.js :: onfinish :: line 227 data: no
[09:37] <gnomefreak> Keegan_Witt, in the sources.list file are the sources with a # infront of them?
[09:38] <Once> Can anyone recommend a good program for burning CDs/DVDs other than K3B?
[09:38] <Keegan_Witt> gnomefreak, no, I removed that
[09:38] <bladez> guys
[09:38] <gnomefreak> Keegan_Witt, and your on breezy?
[09:38] <bladez> oki i mounted them
[09:38] <Keegan_Witt> gnomefreak, yea
[09:38] <gnomefreak> gnomebaker
[09:38] <bladez> but how do i share them on a windows network?
[09:38] <Stew_Lappy> gnomebaker
[09:38] <Xer0_h4x> :o, i did the firefox 1.5 install and it worked...i copyed old data over and everything...wheres my bookmarks?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> that is weird Keegan_Witt  do you get errors when running apt-get update?
[09:38] <Xer0_h4x> and restored profile
[09:39] <haasteem> hi, it seems that my cd burner and dvd-rom don't get mounted in blackbox, but they are in gnome. how do i solve this problem?
[09:39] <Keegan_Witt> gnomefreak, no, no errors. I don't think I had this problem with Hoary
[09:39] <bladez> how do i share mounted ntfs partitions on a windows network?
[09:39] <bladez> plz
[09:39] <Keegan_Witt> gnomefreak, its odd
[09:39] <SpookyNik> anyone have any ideas about that profile creation problem?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> Keegan_Witt, i havent had that problem with any linux :(
[09:40] <Xer0_h4x> SpookyNik, i JUST followed it all perfectly and it worked....no sudo needed, also did you get you bookmarks back?.. :\ i didnt
[09:40] <SpookyNik> i didnt have any bookmarks
[09:40] <Xer0_h4x> oh...
[09:40] <Xer0_h4x> welll
[09:40] <Xer0_h4x> JEEZE!
[09:40] <Xer0_h4x> :P
[09:40] <SpookyNik> hmm, well on that newfirefox version the commands all had sudo prefixed to them, should i ignore that then?
[09:40] <TokenBad> spiregrain, reboot didn't work...still can't save to it
[09:41] <gnomefreak> SpookyNik, to install it sudo is needed
[09:41] <spiregrain> hmmm
[09:41] <SpookyNik> er newfirefoxversion howto
[09:41] <sorush20> Seveas: I can't  download the w32codec from your repository
[09:41] <bladez> guys, plz i need help
[09:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sorush20 about Seveas
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Now I killed it.
[09:41] <SpookyNik> i can get it to start now, had to chnage the owner of /opt/firefox and /home/user/.mozilla to my user
[09:41] <spiregrain> tokenbad- were you paying attention when it booted up?  did it complain any?
[09:41] <TokenBad> it is saying the dirs are owned by root and 777
[09:41] <Xer0_h4x> gnomefreak, did you get your bookmarks back? if so how? (during the firefox 1.5 install)
[09:41] <paul555> does anyone know how can i connect to the internet with an analog external modem in a fresh ubuntu install?
[09:41] <yuma> tonyyarusso, what?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> yuma:  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...
[09:42] <tonyyarusso>  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[09:42] <bladez> can i get some sharing help here plz?
[09:42] <ZaPik> re2all
[09:42] <sorush20> gnomefreak: what do I do about it?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Now /etc/init.d/gdm failed completely.
[09:42] <gnomefreak> Xer0_h4x, im on dapper i didnt upgrade 1.0.7 to 1.5 since its not really all that ready for ubuntu
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> yuma: gdm start that is.
[09:42] <yuma> tonyyarusso, what did you do?
[09:42] <Dwayne> so.. question..inetd or xinentd?
[09:42] <bladez> hello
[09:42] <yuma> tonyyarusso, not, just gdm will work
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> bladez, What are you trying to do again?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> sorush20, did you add his repo to your sources.list?
[09:42] <hunika> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[09:42] <Xer0_h4x> gnomefrea> oh...when will that be out btw
[09:42] <hunika> I AM BACK
[09:43] <Xer0_h4x> LOL
[09:43] <sorush20> gnomefreak: yes I did..
[09:43] <spiregrain> tokenbad - even your own directories?
[09:43] <Xer0_h4x> wb
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> yuma: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm.
[09:43] <bladez> to share a ntfs mounted partition on a windows network
[09:43] <SpookyNik> how do i chown a dir and all subdirs/files? ;)
[09:43] <gnomefreak> Xer0_h4x, dapper will be out in april for now
[09:43] <yuma> tonyyarusso, woah, that killed gdm? that's pretty strange...
[09:43] <bladez> i really dont wanna lose all my stuff
[09:43] <ZaPik> i want to know, is KDE integrated in Ubuntu ?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> 1.5 might get backported to breezy in a month or so
[09:43] <Xer0_h4x> gnomefrea, ah, how is it btw :)
[09:43] <markus-_-> i can't seem to change permissions on an fat 32 folder
[09:43] <gnomefreak> its buggy
[09:43] <TokenBad> spiregrain, yes..and I just checked by pico a file on that system and trying to save..and says its readonly file system
[09:43] <markus-_-> any ideas?
[09:43] <Shadyman> zapik: Yes
[09:43] <ZaPik> Shadyman thx
[09:43] <Shadyman> ZaPik: Kubuntu
[09:44] <gnomefreak> the kernel is stable for most part but the apps are still a bit buggy
[09:44] <TokenBad> and this only started after the power went out...
[09:44] <yuma> tonyyarusso, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:44] <Xer0_h4x> gnomefrea, ew...anything REALLY differnt?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> yeah the menu editor :))
[09:44] <ZaPik> Shadyman and can i install KDE on ubuntu? (not on kubuntu)
[09:44] <Dwayne> How do you get swat into init.d
[09:44] <Dwayne> ??
[09:44] <bladez> tonyyarusso, so could u help me  pls?
[09:44] <LordMelkor> im having some trouble with me cd drive
[09:44] <LordMelkor> it like
[09:44] <gnomefreak> ZaPik, yes sudo apt-get isntall kde
[09:44] <LordMelkor> dies after a few seconds
[09:45] <LordMelkor> i put in a cd
[09:45] <Xer0_h4x> gnomefrea, oooo :) cool if i was on gnome more often :P (i'm an xfce type of guy)
[09:45] <crimsun> ZaPik: sure, install kubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <spiregrain> tokenbad - how does "mount -o remount,rw /" treat you?
[09:45] <LordMelkor> and then i start browsing the files
[09:45] <markus-_-> gnomefreak maybe you can help me out
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Xer0_h4x,  i havent tried xfce yet on dapper
[09:45] <LordMelkor> and then the window goes blank
[09:45] <LordMelkor> and after a while
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> yuma: nv.  Needed sudo.
[09:45] <LordMelkor> i get the option to force quit
[09:45] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  with what?
[09:45] <LordMelkor> file browser
[09:45] <markus-_-> i recently mounted a fat 32 drive
[09:45] <TokenBad> spiregrain, well no error message
[09:45] <Xer0_h4x> gnomefre, oh ok, its really nice and clean aswell as super fast
[09:45] <spiregrain> k, try your saving again
[09:45] <flodine> anyone uses xterm here with xdefaults
[09:45] <Xer0_h4x> less spu usage then fluxbox :\
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> yuma: But it's scary-looking now.  My fonts, icons, and resolution are all different.
[09:45] <gnomefreak> markus-_-,  i cant help with mounting sorry :((
[09:45] <markus-_-> but the folder named My Music says that I am not the owner and I am not allowed to write to it
[09:46] <flixil> Hello, Does somebody have a fonts problem using amsn on xfce or ion on ubuntu??
[09:46] <Xenguy> crimsun: Hi - I've been hoping you would show up again :-) ...
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Maybe.
[09:46] <markus-_-> well i tried
[09:46] <markus-_-> lol
[09:46] <crimsun> Xenguy: I'm only present for a short while
[09:46] <bladez> :)
[09:46] <Xenguy> crimsun: I have that soundcard info you asked for
[09:46] <crimsun> Xenguy: what's up?
[09:46] <TokenBad> spiregrain, but if try to save file still says read only
[09:46] <Xer0_h4x> anyone do the firefox 1.5 install from the wiki and not get there bookmarks back?
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> bladez, What's your issue?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> sorry markus-_-
[09:46] <yuma> tonyyarusso, hmm, and all because the dpkg-reconfigure... even the screen resolution?
[09:46] <markus-_-> no probs
[09:46] <apokryphos> can anyone show me the options they have in their fstab for an ntfs entry that has read-access by *all* users? I'm quite sure I have it right, but it's not working.
[09:46] <Xenguy> 02:26 < crimsun> Xenguy: go to the manufacturer's Web site and tell me what it says
[09:46] <Xenguy>                  regarding the audio features
[09:46] <LordMelkor> ew firefox 1.5 is awful
[09:46] <bladez> tonyyarusso, i need to share a partition
[09:46] <markus-_-> you've been very helpful in the past
[09:46] <bladez> on the network
[09:46] <yuma> tonyyarusso, and it works to change to the TTYs?
[09:47] <Xenguy> crimsun: Mainboard = CRU51-M7
[09:47] <markus-_-> thanks anyway
[09:47] <Xenguy>   Onboard AC'97 Sound Codec; Chip = ALC655:                                                     http://www.realtek.com.tw/products/products1-2.aspx?modelid=2003051
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> yuma: It seemed like it.  I didn't actually check in the res setup, but things were different sizes as if it were.
[09:47] <ZaPik> xm.. what is better? Suse or Ubuntu ?
[09:47] <Xer0_h4x> apokrypho, dont think you can do read access in fstab i have my window drive mounted aswell but i can just take stuff for it
[09:47] <crimsun> Xenguy: lsmod|grep ^snd_intel8x0
[09:47] <apokryphos> ZaPik: they're different; SuSE has better polish; Ubuntu has better repos.
[09:47] <LordMelkor> does anyone have any ideas about whats going on with my cd drive
[09:47] <Xer0_h4x> polished? suse? you must be mistaken
[09:47] <Xer0_h4x> :P
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> yuma: No.  I had that start on display 2 while this was up, and had to kill it to get back here.
[09:47] <Xenguy> crimsun: K, sec
[09:47] <ZaPik> apokryphos and what is better for server use ?
[09:47] <TenPlus1> Q.) Is their a way to update Ubuntu from 5.10 to Dapper without re-installing everything ???
[09:47] <Xer0_h4x> LordMelko, maybe i could say if i was there :P
[09:47] <bladez> tonyyarusso, i really need to backup those files its important
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> bladez, All-Linux network or multiple OS?
[09:48] <apokryphos> Xer0_h4x: no, not mistaken. It's the most polished distro I've used.
[09:48] <LordMelkor> -_-
[09:48] <flixil> Hello, Does somebody have a fonts problem using amsn on xfce or ion on ubuntu breezy?
[09:48] <Xer0_h4x> You'v used
[09:48] <eric_> ok I installed xfce and everything is working except it does not detect when I load a cd, how do I fix that? Any help I would appreciate
[09:48] <bladez> tonyyarusso, windows network actually
[09:48] <TokenBad> spiregrain, everything in fstab is still the same..so not sure why its mounting as readonly
[09:48] <LordMelkor> i described the problem above
[09:48] <gnomefreak> TenPlus1, yes but if your scared of losing things i wouldnt
[09:48] <Xenguy> crimsun: no output
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> bladez, I'm new to this too, but was able to successfully share some stuff with Windows.
[09:48] <crimsun> Xenguy: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0
[09:48] <bladez> cool
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Let's start by benchmarking where you're at.
[09:48] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, sec
[09:48] <yuma> tonyyarusso, i don't have a clue of what's happening...
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Heard of samba?
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Nuts.
[09:48] <bladez> yeah its a server
[09:49] <gnomefreak> TenPlus1, dapper is not released yet and may break (more than likely will) and if you cant fix it you might be re-installing anyway
[09:49] <bladez> a linux based server
[09:49] <bladez> like .. apache ?
[09:49] <Xer0_h4x> apokrypho> i hated it..there was never anything there... no...linux feeling :) (my own opiniun)
[09:49] <TenPlus1> gnomefreak: do tell, I'm not afraid <standing proud>
[09:49] <apokryphos> Xer0_h4x: ......many. Gentoo, Debian, Mandriva, Fedora, Yopper
[09:49] <LordMelkor> i put in a cd and then i start browsing the filesand then the window goes blank and after a while i get the option to force quit file browser
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> bladez, To share your stuff, you're going to make your comp a samba server.
[09:49] <bladez> damit
[09:49] <bladez> oki like i apt-get it?
[09:49] <spiregrain> TokenBad- but does that magic remount incantation solve it temporarily?
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> bladez, It's not as bad as it sounds if the configuration works.
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> bladez, To start, then configure.
[09:49] <Xenguy> crimsun: done. Now 'lsmod etc.' gives this output: snd_intel8x0   30144  0
[09:50] <bladez> so i apt-get it
[09:50] <gnomefreak> TenPlus1, change all repos from breezy to dapper and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and sit back and see what happens but fair warning it is not close to stable
[09:50] <bladez> right?
[09:50] <navarone> lordmelkor...was the quitting brought on by no response from prog or memory issue?
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> bladez, yes.
[09:50] <crimsun> Xenguy: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:50] <bladez> oki ty
[09:50] <eric_> how do I mount the cd drive in xfce?
[09:50] <TenPlus1> gnomefreak: just change the word "breezy" to "dapper" and update ??? that's it ???
[09:50] <sethk> eric_, same way you mount it with any desktop
[09:50] <sethk> eric_, mount
[09:50] <navarone> eric_, xfce has a fstab mount utility in menus
[09:50] <Xenguy> crimsun: output is: --- no soundcards ---
[09:50] <Xer0_h4x>  eric_, liek mount it? or view it
[09:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell TenPlus1 about upgrade
[09:51] <crimsun> Xenguy: cat /proc/asound/version
[09:51] <TokenBad> spiregrain, no...it still don't let me save to it
[09:51] <Keegan_Witt> I want to compile with the command line, how do I build from multiple sources?
[09:51] <navarone> eric_, tho to be honest I never used it...<s>
[09:51] <Xenguy> crimsun: K, sec
[09:51] <gnomefreak> same way as that but with dapper not breezy
[09:51] <LordMelkor> navarone: i dont think so
[09:51] <imperfectus> Hi.
[09:51] <Xer0_h4x> eric_: ?
[09:51] <bladez> k im dlin it now
[09:51] <eric_> ok, I'm new to all of this, when I loaded Ubuntu everything just worked
[09:51] <imperfectus> Anyone have a lot of knowledge with acpi issues?
[09:51] <TokenBad> spiregrain, its not my main drive..its my slave drive
[09:51] <LordMelkor> because
[09:51] <spiregrain> Tokenbad - "dmesg | grep mount" say anything
[09:51] <LordMelkor> i got a i/o error
[09:51] <gnomefreak> good luck have a breezy cd at stand by
[09:51] <spiregrain> ?
[09:51] <Xer0_h4x> eric_: what do you want to do? explain please
[09:52] <TokenBad> spiregrain, nope..that command not say anything
[09:52] <navarone> LordLucless, I was thinking along auto preview using memory or something...just fishing...lol
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Your key will be editing /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:52] <Xenguy> crimsun: output is: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9 (Sun May 29 07:31:02 2005 UTC).
[09:52] <eric_> when I pop in a cd like music it does not detect it
[09:52] <navarone> sry Lucless...LordMelkor
[09:52] <SpookyNik> now how do i get this blutooth monitor to no load when i startup x?
[09:52] <TenPlus1> thx peeps :) much appreciated
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Can I undo my reconfigure?
[09:52] <Xer0_h4x> eric_: yes it doesn :P just run the fdile manager
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Or any clue about the part it said failed?
[09:52] <Iga> hi everyone, could someone help me ? Having problems while installing Breezy, I decided to install only the server version. Could you tell me which packages I have to install to come back to the "graphic version" ?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> i think tenplus1 will be back with locales issue
[09:52] <yuma> tonyyarusso, i don't know, but i'm afraid that you can't
[09:53] <wizardjames> ahhhhhhhhhh
[09:53] <Xer0_h4x> eric_: filemanager*
[09:53] <spiregrain> tokenbad - then how does "mount -o remount,rw /dev/whatever" treat you?
[09:53] <bladez> oh and by the way, is there an archive tool powerfull enough to reduce some 30 gigs of stuff to like .. 20 gigs?
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Iga: Pick a desktop environment.
[09:53] <navarone> eric xfce does not use automount by default I believe
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Iga: Or wm.
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Iga: Or whatever.
[09:53] <bladez> oki
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Shoot.
[09:53] <eric_> ok, I'll try that.  Usually when I put a cd in the cd icon appears on my desktop
[09:53] <bladez> sry didnt see the last message
[09:53] <Xer0_h4x> navarone: yes it does :)
[09:53] <Xer0_h4x> its in there
[09:53] <Xer0_h4x> just got a get to it
[09:53] <Iga> I already installed Nautilus with breezy's cd
[09:53] <yuma> tonyyarusso, what did fail?
[09:53] <TokenBad> spiregrain, that worked
[09:53] <navarone> Xer0_h4x, like I said...I rarely use xfce...lol
[09:54] <bladez> oki
[09:54] <imperfectus> My kingdom for suspend to ram to work
[09:54] <andross> eric: mail menu -> system -> sfce fstab mount manager -> select /media/cdrom0 and then green mount button
[09:54] <bladez> most of the stuff failed
[09:54] <crimsun> Xenguy: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4 module-assistant
[09:54] <morphie> hey all
[09:54] <TokenBad> spiregrain, what did that do?
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> Iga: For Gnome, you can apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, KDE: kubuntu-desktop, not sure if xubuntu-desktop is ready yet for XFCE, but you could check.
[09:54] <imperfectus> Anyone know why if I suspend to ram and bring the machine back up it automatically shut's down?
[09:54] <morphie> i have a question can someone help me out
[09:54] <Xer0_h4x> for my file naanager in xfce i changed the filemanager program to nautilus --no-desktop --browser
[09:54] <spiregrain> Tokenbad - does "dmesg | grep <your_drive's_name>" say anything
[09:54] <andross> gah mail menu is main menu
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> yuma: invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed.
[09:54] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, working...
[09:54] <crimsun> Xenguy: then, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb
[09:54] <bladez> THO, it says that its starting the samba daemons
[09:55] <navarone> tonyyarusso, I believe xubunut is simple server install with xfce enviro files
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> imperfectus, Mine does, but not suspend to disk, oddly enough.
[09:55] <Xer0_h4x> tonyyarus: just sudo apt-get install xfce4 i think
[09:55] <TokenBad> ouch
[09:55] <Iga> tonyyarusso > Thank you very much, I'm going to try that!
[09:55] <TokenBad> spiregrain, yes
[09:55] <spiregrain> Tokenbad - that remounted the drive as read-write.  We need to figure out why it's being mounted as readonly
[09:55] <bladez> tonyyarusso, what should i do now
[09:55] <imperfectus> tonyyarusso, : It suspends for you?
[09:55] <yuma> tonyyarusso, but that was performed when you did a dpkg-reconfigure or when tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[09:55] <McJerry> morphie cant help if u dont ask the question
[09:55] <eric_> ok thanks for all your help
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> navarone, You're probably right.  Don't know much about xfce at all.
[09:55] <TokenBad> spiregrain, its in panic mode
[09:55] <imperfectus> tonyyarusso, : I can't get suspend to disk to work either, and I've passed the resume= kernal opt to grub... still doesn't work.
[09:55] <spiregrain> tokenbad - since there was a power-failure involved, you might try umounting it and then running fsck over it.
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> imperfectus, Yeah.  I had to edit a line, but now it's great for that.
[09:55] <morphie> i am using my laptop with ubuntu but i do not know how to enable my wifi cardbus card in ubuntu
[09:55] <LordMelkor> i get the message: Error "I/O error" while copying "/media/cdr...dirty).mp3"
[09:56] <Friar> I have a problem... this computer hasnt alerted me of software updates for about a month but the one downstairs has.
[09:56] <TokenBad> spiregrain, can you go into more detail?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> yuma: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, in that part's output.
[09:56] <navarone> tonyyarusso, yeah i was gonna try a triple boot with xubuntu as well and looked into details...but never actually did it...have it in sessions tho
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> imperfectus, Same.
[09:56] <imperfectus> tonyyarusso, : Hrm.. What line did you edit?
[09:56] <sorush20> what driver do I use for smooth non fuzzy play back?
[09:56] <LordMelkor> now my cd drive wont open
[09:56] <sorush20> DVD play back
[09:56] <spiregrain> TokenBad- e.g. "umount /dev/hdb1"  (unmounts it)   "fsck /dev/hdb1" will try to fix any problems on the disk itself
[09:56] <LordMelkor> wtf.
[09:56] <morphie> i am using a wli-cb-g54a
[09:56] <McJerry> friar: dbl check your sources.list and make sure automatic updates set
[09:56] <navarone> LordMelkor, right click mount icon on desktop and eject
[09:57] <yuma> tonyyarusso, see the /var/log/dpkg.log for some info about why it failed
[09:57] <Friar> i just fixed my source list... how to i set outo updates?
[09:57] <bladez> tonyyarusso, what do i do now ? ithe account policies failed but, it said that it was "starting samba daemons"
[09:57] <imperfectus> tonyyarusso: I'd love to make that work ;)
[09:57] <TokenBad> spiregrain, says device is busy
[09:58] <yuma> tonyyarusso, or use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste the whole file
[09:58] <morphie> McJerry, any ideas??
[09:58] <spiregrain> Token you need to close down any app that might be accessing it, and cd out of any directories on it, then umounit
[09:58] <navarone> TokenBad,  is the cd playing in drive in another program?
[09:58] <LordMelkor> my cd drive works for like 30 second intervals
[09:58] <McJerry> friar: system > synaptic > settings > repositories
[09:58] <LordMelkor> after i inster the disk
[09:58] <LordMelkor> then it crashes
[09:58] <Friar> Thanks
[09:58] <TokenBad> spiregrain, got it..but it has found an error using the fsck and not sure what to put down as answer for it
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Um, the file's empty.
[09:59] <Iga> tonyyarusso: It seems to work, thank you! Are there other packages I have to install that miss to the "server version" ?
[09:59] <McJerry> morphie: i do not use laptop with wifi, but someone here will know
[09:59] <thegladiator> why is that doc files that are moer than a MB taking too long to open ?
[09:59] <yuma> tonyyarusso, that's good... but not in this case...
[09:59] <micahf> hey I'm having tons of trouble with dialup, anyone have any ideas on why it works with earthlink but not with copper.net?
[09:59] <thegladiator> PDF files which are greater opens in a jiffy
[09:59] <morphie> thanx so far McJerry
[09:59] <SpookyNik> Can anyone tell me how to stop this bluetooth monitor from loading when is tart KDE?
[09:59] <Xenguy> crimsun: hi - dependency hassles with the alsa-source package; I think I just need to install a few dependencies; working on this now
[10:00] <crimsun> Xenguy: sudo apt-get -f install
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> bladez, You'll need to add users to it, if I remember right, sudo smbpasswd -a.
[10:00] <crimsun> Xenguy: I presume you're using a Breezy system?
[10:00] <bladez> oki ty
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Any plan B?
[10:00] <Smoked1> whats a good wysiwyg for X? I used dreamweaver when windows was installed.
[10:00] <bladez> oki
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> Iga: Shouldn't be.  Those are pretty complete.
[10:00] <navarone> smoked nvu or screem
[10:00] <bladez> it adds a pass
[10:00] <LordMelkor> i guess i will use the forums since im not getting any help here
[10:01] <yuma> tonyyarusso, sudo apt-get remove --purge gdm; sudo apt-get install gdm?
[10:01] <Smoked1> whats better?
[10:01] <Xenguy> crimsun: yes Breezy; 'sudo apt-get -f install'  <-- just type this, yes?
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> navarone, Smoked?
[10:01] <dabaR> Smoked1: you can try and tell us.
[10:01] <yuma> tonyyarusso, i think it's too serious...
[10:01] <Iga> ok, thank you. Let's hope it'll work well
[10:01] <crimsun> Xenguy: yes
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Well, do we know what it can hurt?
[10:01] <dabaR> Xenguy: no ' though
[10:01] <Friar> I like mozilla composer for editing website.... my favoruite every was frontpage express though :.(
[10:01] <Smoked1> is nvu a installable package?
[10:01] <McJerry> friar: was it checked or unchecked?
[10:01] <bladez> tonyyarusso, it "new pass"'es me
[10:02] <Friar> i cant get in yet
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Smoked1, Yes.
[10:02] <navarone> tony?
[10:02] <morphie> anyone know how to get my wifi card working
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> navarone, Yeah, I'm nuts.
[10:02] <Smoked1> i did apt-get install nvu and got nothing
[10:02] <McJerry> yes, nvu is installable in synaptic
[10:02] <navarone> Smoked yes
[10:02] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, done that.
[10:02] <yuma> tonyyarusso, if it only removes gdm and the installs it again it just will broke your configuration for gdm
[10:02] <Friar> I'm updateing a tonne of stuff in the terminal
[10:02] <Xenguy> dabaR: nod, tx
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> navarone, Didn't seen that it was a nick and was confused.
[10:02] <JRlinux> morphie, did you try sudo pump -i ath0 ?
[10:02] <crimsun> Xenguy: dependency issues should be resolved now
[10:02] <yuma> tonyyarusso, if it has to remove something more... it's a lot more complicated and dangerous...
[10:02] <imperfectus> tonyyarusso, : Do you remember what you had to edit to get suspend to ram to work?
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Smoked1, universe.
[10:03] <ltibor65> HI guys! Who knows motv, an tv application?
[10:03] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, checking to make sure the alsa thing is installed (I think it is)
[10:03] <navarone> lol
[10:03] <morphie> JRlinux, u mean eth0 or indeed ath0
[10:03] <dabaR> Smoked1: you will need to add the universe repository, the community supported one.
[10:03] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, done the dpkg -i
[10:03] <JRlinux> for wireless, it is ath0
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Add a password for yourself.  (Probably the same as your login one.)
[10:03] <bladez> oki ty
[10:04] <Smoked1> got it
[10:04] <bladez> tonyyarusso, i dont have any i run ubuntu on the live cd actually
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Which includes what, my theme and options like "allow remote login" and stuff?
[10:04] <ltibor65> Who watch tv on Ubuntu?
[10:04] <Friar> ok McJerry that part was ok.. I think my source list had gotten corrputed. Thanks
[10:04] <morphie> command is not found
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> yuma: Would it tell me if it's going to do anything else?  (With a switch?)
[10:05] <Friar> I do ltibor65
[10:05] <Xenguy> crimsun: what is the next step (or where do I go from here) ?
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> imperfectus, Not off the top of my head, but I'll get it for you.
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Oh.
[10:05] <ltibor65> Friar, which program do you use for watching TV?
[10:05] <Linfan> i use gnome-art where does ubuntu save the wallpapers? what folder
[10:05] <crimsun> Xenguy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source . Choose "yes" for the first two questions, then deselect "all" and select only "intel8x0"
[10:05] <yuma> tonyyarusso, usually it ask you when apt-get performs something more than what you told it to do
[10:05] <navarone> Anyone else use emblems in file properties...? I use them to indicate fav songs in collection. Happy face w/shades for cool songs...<s>
[10:05] <Iga> tonyyarusso> Ubuntu doesn't find many packages needed to install ubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <Smoked1> the add applications thing asked me and I confirmed.
[10:06] <zazza> hi all
[10:06] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, working...
[10:06] <morphie> JRlinux,  where can the pump command be found?
[10:06] <crimsun> morphie: instead of dhclient ?
[10:06] <yuma> tonyyarusso, but can also use the synaptic gui interface to apt-get, so you'll see what's going to happen
[10:06] <bladez> tonyyarusso, oki i passed it
[10:06] <bladez> now what do i do
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> imperfectus, /etc/default/acpi-support.
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> imperfectus, Uncomment the line ACPI_SLEEP=true.
[10:06] <Friar> I cant remember but it comes with KDE
[10:06] <Smoked1> whats a good ftp client for X?
[10:06] <Friar> I'm not on that puter right now
[10:06] <micahf> my modem keeps hanging up after connecting
[10:06] <JRlinux> morphie, maybe Ubuntu does not have it... type 'man pump' and see it you get a reply.
[10:07] <micahf> any ideas why?
[10:07] <apokryphos> Smoked1: Konqueror
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> Iga: What repositories do you have enabled?
[10:07] <Friar> KDETV
[10:07] <navarone> gftp
[10:07] <Smoked1> and whats a good mail client?
[10:07] <Smoked1> :)
[10:07] <Linfan> evolution
[10:07] <Friar> sudo apt-get install kdetv
[10:07] <navarone> thunderbird or evolutuion
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> Smoked1, I use Thunderbird.
[10:07] <Xenguy> crimsun: alright, done that.
[10:08] <Friar> in X-chat how do you direct a message to someone in a room?
[10:08] <navarone> I use evol in linux...but thunderbird in windows...lol
[10:08] <morphie> hmmmm no man available
[10:08] <bladez> lol
[10:08] <Smoked1> whats kdetv?
[10:08] <Friar> to make it goe red?
[10:08] <psusi> Friar, you mean a channel?
[10:08] <flixil> Friar /notice name thing
[10:08] <bladez> tonyyarusso, oki so i passed it now how do i share em ?
[10:08] <JRlinux> morphie, now booting ubuntu
[10:08] <Friar> kdetv is a tv program
[10:08] <Friar> thanks flix
[10:08] <morphie> thanx JRlinux
[10:09] <TokenBad> spiregrain, no dice
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> bladez, I believe anybody else on the network will also need both an account on your Linux system and with smb, with the same username and password as they use for windows for it to cooperate.
[10:09] <psusi> you shouldn't use /notice unless you REALLY are trying to get their attention
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> bladez, This could be fun with a Live CD setup.
[10:09] <bladez> so how do i configure all that?
[10:09] <crimsun> Xenguy: sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Know how to add users?
[10:09] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, working...
[10:09] <bladez> tonyyarusso,  no lol
[10:09] <bladez> sry
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> bladez, System > Administration > Users and Groups.
[10:10] <bladez> tonyyarusso, oki
[10:10] <ltibor65> Friar, can you also record the tv-program with kdetv?
[10:10] <CptS> does anyone have any idea on how to enable ssl for tcp/ip under ubuntu?
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Meanwhile, I'll pastebin my smb.conf for you as an example.
[10:10] <Friar> i have no idea... I havent really used it a lot
[10:11] <Dwayne> tonyyarusso: q: do they have to have a username/password just to print to a printer on a Linux box?
[10:11] <bladez> tonyyarusso, dang, im just a noob
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> Dwayne, I don't know, I think that can work a little differently.  (I'm basically regurgitating here; I was walked through it only a few weeks ago.)
[10:12] <Dwayne> ah.. I want to share out my laser printer..been fiddling with samba all day..one of my major problems tho is I can't get SWAT to work..
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> bladez, See above mention to Dwayne; I got into Linux in August, and just got samba set up before winter break.
[10:12] <Xenguy> crimsun: 'building alsa-source' is taking some time, just FYI
[10:12] <bladez> oki ty
[10:13] <Dwayne> I've been toying with it about as long..
[10:13] <JRlinux> morphie, you are right-- no "pump" in Ubuntu.  I learn more about Ubuntu all the time.  I should learn to keep quiet!  Someone else should know the answer.  Might check the #wireless group.
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> Dwayne, My SWAT is dead too, I overwrote something for it so I can't access it.  Had to do stuff manually.
[10:13] <morphie> thanx
[10:13] <Dwayne> in my case, I can't even access it..it's in the inetd.conf file, but inetd won't start.
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> Dwayne, Didn't even know that.  I was just trying some port on the loopback address in my browser.
[10:15] <Dwayne> yeah.. you have to uncomment it in inetd.conf but I don't know how to make inetd startup. it's not in init.d.
[10:15] <Iga> tonyyarusso, I sent you private messages
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> bladez, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6466
[10:15] <Some_Body> yay, finally got my computer to detect the ubuntu boot disk :)
[10:15] <bladez> oki ty
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> Iga: Didn't see them.  Are you registered?  (Check your server tab for errors.)
[10:16] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, done now.
[10:16] <TokenBad> spiregrain, thanks so much....I owe you
[10:16] <Iga> No I'm not, I'm going to do so
[10:16] <crimsun> Xenguy: cat /proc/asound/version
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> Iga: 'k.
[10:17] <Some_Body> ...error message allready?
[10:17] <Xenguy> crimsun: output is: Compiled on Jan 1 2006 for kernel 2.6.12-9-386.
[10:17] <Dreamglider> what's the DVD player of choice for ubuntu ?
[10:17] <crimsun> Xenguy: err, I need the version
[10:17] <Smoked1> what is the correct way to pronounce ubuntu?
[10:17] <crimsun> oo boon too
[10:17] <spiregrain> Dreamglider- totem, likely
[10:17] <Some_Body> "Your cpu does not support long mode. Use a 32 bit  installation"
[10:18] <Xenguy> crimsun: sorry, sec...
[10:18] <Some_Body> my computer is an amd64...
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> Smoked1, Most say it oo-BOON-too.
[10:18] <Xenguy> crimsun: ALSA Driver Version 1.0.10.
[10:18] <Dreamglider> can i play anything ?
[10:18] <crimsun> Xenguy: and /proc/asound/cards ?
[10:18] <Smoked1> i been saying ah bun to
[10:18] <Some_Body> also, does ubuntu even have a 32 bit installation?
[10:18] <crimsun> Some_Body: the vast majority of people use the 32-bit install
[10:18] <Friar> does gaim have memory issues? My computer runs awful slow running it or firefox
[10:18] <Dreamglider> i mean, divx, xvid, mov, wmv, avi and stuff ?
[10:18] <Some_Body> oh...
[10:19] <Some_Body> link?
[10:19] <Xenguy> crimsun: hrm, output is: --- no soundcards ---
[10:19] <pinkisntwell> I tried recording something with sound recorder and when played back it's a cruckling mess, how can I fix that?
[10:19] <Some_Body> I went to the mirrors
[10:19] <Some_Body> didn't see a 32 bit
[10:19] <crimsun> Some_Body: choose the ia32/i386 install
[10:19] <rem_> gaim dunno but firefox yeah sometimes Friar
[10:19] <psusi> Some_Body, are you sure you have an athlon64 not an athlon xp?
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> Friar: How much memory are you working with?  I have both up now.
[10:19] <Some_Body> positive
[10:19] <psusi> Some_Body, because the kernel seems to think you only have an xp
[10:19] <rem_> I use epiphany mostly now, it seems lighter ..
[10:20] <Some_Body> well I do have a 64 bit operation mode...
[10:20] <Friar> yeah i like epiph
[10:20] <Friar> that solved my ff problem
[10:20] <psusi> Some_Body, what makes you think that?
[10:20] <halibut> I am about to buy components for a new PC, anything I should take extra care over for ubuntu? I will have AMD socket 939 + nvidia
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> Friar: My Firefox is at 4.2 MB and Gaim is 28.3.
[10:20] <sorush20> guys I get complete heater
[10:20] <Friar> i think FF was more to blame
[10:20] <teroedni> halibut:Nvidia motherboard?
[10:21] <rem_> yea but firefox sometimes uses 100% of cpu after a while ...
[10:21] <sethk> halibut, if you mean nvidia graphics that's not the best choice for linux
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> !tell Dreamglider about restrictedformats
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider, With a little bit of work you can.
[10:21] <halibut> teroedni, would that be best? I will go for nvidia graphics as I thought that was best
[10:21] <sorush20> halibut: I got an amd 64 being set up right now.. but I'm not using the amd64 kernel
[10:21] <Chousuke> sethk: better than getting an ati card that's not supported
[10:21] <psusi> sethk, how is it not?  from what I have heard, the nvidia drivers work better / are better supported than the ati ones
[10:22] <sorush20> halibut: yes
[10:22] <sethk> psusi, that's probably true, but the choices are not only ati and nvidia
[10:22] <halibut> ohh  sethk, which is better than nvidia for graphics?
[10:22] <sethk> halibut, not better per se, better supported for linux (because nvidia's drivers are closed source)
[10:22] <teroedni> halibut:On motherboard nvidia is best yes:atleast nforce 2 and nforce 3 havent tried 4
[10:22] <TokenBad> spiregrain, that fixed it....rebooted and can still save...
[10:22] <Chousuke> nvidia motherboards are not good for linux
[10:22] <sethk> halibut, I've had good results with intel graphics chips.  But I don't do gaming
[10:22] <crimsun> Xenguy: ok, then we just lack pci ids for your hardware. Submit a bug report on bugzilla.ubuntu.com, attaching your ``lspci -v'' and ``lspci -nv'' output, and I'll look at it upstream
[10:22] <psusi> sethk, what other chipset maker actually competes with ati and nvidia in the pc graphics market?
[10:23] <spiregrain> yay
[10:23] <sorush20> halibut: don't get ati that is all I can say
[10:23] <TokenBad> Thanks so much
[10:23] <halibut> heheh
[10:23] <teroedni> hmm
[10:23] <sethk> psusi, for the work I do nvidia has no advantage over any of the others
[10:23] <crimsun> Xenguy: make sure you state the manufacturer and model of your motherboard
[10:23] <Chousuke> if you want fast 3D on linux, nvidia and closed drivers is the way to go
[10:23] <Xer0_h4x> w0rd
[10:23] <psusi> sethk, what others is what I'm asking?  AFAIK, ati and nvidia share nearly the entire market
[10:23] <Xer0_h4x> nvidia all the way :)
[10:23] <polpak> halibut, ati works fine generally, but nvidia does tend to outperform ati on linux
[10:23] <tonyyarusso> sorush20, I have ATI, and seems okay for normal use anyway.  Not a gamer or anything heavy-duty like that though.
[10:23] <halibut> what about a PCI-E with ubuntu?
[10:23] <Eleaf> hi
[10:24] <Chousuke> if however, you only need decently powerful 3d, get and older ATi
[10:24] <Friar> whats the best graphics cards for Ubuntu?
[10:24] <Eleaf> Xer0_h4x, !!!!!!!!!!!
[10:24] <sorush20> my computer crashes during play back
[10:24] <Eleaf> Xer0_h4x, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:24] <Blissex> Chousuke: thats for _really fast_ more than just fast. The DRI stuff does fast, just not very fast.
[10:24] <Xer0_h4x> hey Eleaf :)
[10:24] <spiregrain> if you're not a gamer it *really* doesn't matter
[10:24] <Eleaf> lol
[10:24] <halibut> i am a gamer
[10:24] <Blissex> Chousuke: oops, you just said the same.
[10:24] <sorush20> tonyyarusso: well you just have to look at the two ATI wikis on ubuntu and find out how much greaf people are getting.
[10:24] <Eleaf> halibut, what a cool name
[10:24] <halibut> Edgan, heh
[10:24] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK, will do that.  In simpler terms, what is the prognosis for sound on this box?  I need to make a decision to either stick with this board, or trade it in for something else that will work.  What is your opinion?
[10:24] <sethk> psusi, intel is good, matrox is good, trident is good
[10:24] <Eleaf> sorush20, will a nvidia 6200 work ok with ubuntu?
[10:25] <sethk> psusi, cirrus is good
[10:25] <teroedni> yes
[10:25] <teroedni> i have a nvidia 6200 256mb card
[10:25] <Chousuke> sethk: those are probably slower than older ATis
[10:25] <Eleaf> Xer0_h4x, omg... It's you
[10:25] <Xenguy> Eleaf: from what I have heard, yes
[10:25] <sethk> Chousuke, slower doing what?
[10:25] <cello_rasp> i am trying to install a windows program with wine : should I install the program to the (virtual) c:/ drive?
[10:25] <Some_Body> ...I'm not seeing an ia32/i386 install...
[10:25] <sethk> Chousuke, for what I do they aren't any slower
[10:25] <Draken> can someone help me, i just installed new nvidia drivers, but now i cant get into KDE ?
[10:25] <Chousuke> sethk: slower at 3D
[10:25] <psusi> sethk, I thought intel only made 2d integrated video chips for servers?  and the others just build boards with either ati or nvidia chips on them
[10:25] <chapium> Friar, my Geforce 4mx works fine
[10:25] <Xer0_h4x> Eleaf: ^_^
[10:25] <Eleaf> Xenguy, ok, I guess that's what I'm getting... lol  Will it be super great?
[10:25] <RoM_Kabuki> Hello
[10:25] <Some_Body> would that be the x86 install?
[10:25] <Chousuke> sethk: older ATis are supported by OSS drivers anyway
[10:25] <teroedni> Eleaf:For what
[10:25] <sethk> psusi, the latter is certainly not true (using ati or nvidia chips)
[10:25] <Xenguy> Eleaf: no idea, get a 2nd opinion
[10:26] <Friar> thanks
[10:26] <Chousuke> sethk: So they're just as good to get :)
[10:26] <sethk> psusi, I have absolutely no need for 3d
[10:26] <RoM_Kabuki> I'm trying ubuntu live CD
[10:26] <RoM_Kabuki> :D
[10:26] <Eleaf> teroedni, a nvidia 6200 ?
[10:26] <sethk> Chousuke, no, they perform better, for me
[10:26] <teroedni> Eleaf:What you mean by great i have that card
[10:26] <crimsun> Xenguy: depends how badly you want sound. If you have an extra sound card, use that instead of onboard.
[10:26] <Falstius> cello_rasp: that works well for me.
[10:26] <spiregrain> welcome RoM_Kabuki
[10:26] <Some_Body> ooo, it is
[10:26] <Xer0_h4x> Eleaf, we had tis discusion yesterday :P IT WILLBE SUPER GREAT
[10:26] <Some_Body> right
[10:26] <Chousuke> sethk: not even when X starts getting 3d acceleration for the desktop?
[10:26] <crimsun> Xenguy: it shouldn't be a big deal to put the appropriate ids into the source
[10:26] <Eleaf> teroedni, you have a nvidia 6200?
[10:26] <teroedni> yes
[10:26] <dotrig> Why changes my ip all time when i reboot (only with ubuntu)
[10:26] <psusi> sethk, I refuse to use those integrated graphics chipsets... they whore up system memory instead of using their own
[10:26] <Eleaf> Xer0_h4x, lol
[10:26] <Draken> can someone help me, i just installed new nvidia drivers, but now i cant get into KDE ?
[10:26] <Eleaf> teroedni, what's it like?
[10:26] <psusi> sethk, which slows down the entire system
[10:27] <teroedni> the performance of the 6200 equal a ti 4200
[10:27] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: Dannee?
[10:27] <Draken> ?
[10:27] <Chousuke> sethk: which'll improve responsiveness _and_ add eye candy :)
[10:27] <sethk> psusi, well, that's dogma.  I want a system that can do what I need.  If part of what I need is graphics, I have no problem with using resources for graphics
[10:27] <teroedni> i dont play games but im using opengl screensaver
[10:27] <Eleaf> TerminX, is that .. good?
[10:27] <Xenguy> crimsun: I can wait on sound for awhile; is it likely that this may be supported in the near future if I file the bug report you suggested?
[10:27] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: , you get X errors?
[10:27] <Eleaf> teroedni, is that good?
[10:27] <Draken> nope
[10:27] <sethk> Chousuke, I don't care about eye candy, and I don't think for applications that don't do animation that there is really a difference you can feel
[10:27] <Draken> how i boot kde again ?
[10:27] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: what does it day?
[10:27] <teroedni> Eleaf depends
[10:27] <Xenguy> crimsun: I just don't want to keep the board if I am majorly screwed :-)
[10:27] <Draken> how i boot kde again ?
[10:27] <teroedni> what you gonna play
[10:27] <dabaR> Draken: sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart
[10:27] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: what does it say when you try to get in?
[10:27] <Eleaf> teroedni, lol.  Do you like your card in Ubuntu?  Is it fast?  Are you happy?
[10:27] <psusi> sethk, if you're talking about a server, you usually don't need graphics... but just having it there slows down any cpu bund applications the server is running
[10:27] <sethk> Draken, you don't exactly boot kde.
[10:28] <halibut> socket 939, nforce4, PCI-E, nvid graphics,  does that sound ok? what about for a sound card, i need midi i/o, I was thinking the dmx xfire, ?
[10:28] <Chousuke> sethk: There will be a difference. You won't see screen redraws for one
[10:28] <dotrig> Anyknow how i get stastic ip on ubuntu
[10:28] <RoM_Kabuki> I'm impressed by this linux...
[10:28] <teroedni> Eleaf:Yes its fast no problem at all:)
[10:28] <sethk> Chousuke, I never see screen redraws.  never
[10:28] <bladez> how do i edit the smb.conf file?
[10:28] <Eleaf> teroedni, what great LINUX games do you play with it? ; )
[10:28] <crimsun> Xenguy: you're not
[10:28] <polpak> dotrig, system->administration->networking
[10:28] <dabaR> bladez: it is under /etc/samba
[10:28] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: does it come up with errors when trying to start KDE
[10:28] <Dwayne> bladez: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:28] <teroedni> Eleaf.Little im afraid
[10:28] <bladez> oki ty
[10:28] <Draken> nope Xer0_h4x
[10:28] <teroedni> other than tux
[10:28] <Draken> it just doesnt boot
[10:28] <Draken> takes me back to console
[10:28] <chapium> bladez, gedit works well too
[10:28] <dotrig> also i mean i have dhcp but everytime i reboot so change my ip ..
[10:29] <Chousuke> sethk: Pretty good then
[10:29] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: explain more man what does it doe...you turn you comp on ubuntu loads...then what
[10:29] <chapium> bladez, do nano -w.... you absolutely do not want to save that file with wrapping
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> bladez, I prefer gedit for that one because it's a long file and I like the scrollbar.
[10:29] <Eleaf> teroedni, oh well.  Should I get one?  I'm thinking about that.  either  a pny 128 meg one or a rosewill 256 meg one...
[10:29] <sethk> Chousuke, well, except when java is running  :)
[10:29] <Draken> Xer0_h4x: it trys to boot KDE and just drops back to console
[10:29] <Xer0_h4x> mousepad all the way xD
[10:29] <polpak> Ok guys.. This nvidia/ati/onboard intell discussion has well and clearly moved into the realm of ubuntu-offtopic let's move it there pls
[10:29] <Chousuke> sethk: hah! :D
[10:29] <teroedni> Eleaf:What games are you planning to run?
[10:29] <chris> hi everyone, i have just installed breezy on a older hp pavilion and i have no sound.  I believe my soundcard is a rockwell chameleon combo card, but i am not sure what i need to do next..  i can't seem to find any drivers or info on it...does anyone have experience with this similar problem
[10:29] <bladez> oki
[10:29] <sethk> Chousuke, but I don't think we can blame that on the hardware.  :)
[10:30] <blue-frog> dotrig, system>administration>network
[10:30] <Xenguy> crimsun: OK.  I really appreciate all your help :-)  I am willing to try adding the ID's or whatever later on, but I would need your guidance, as that is over my head AFAICT
[10:30] <cello_rasp> Falstius: how the heck do i run the program using wine if i don't remember the path?
[10:30] <Chousuke> sethk: Well, 3d accelerated desktop will be nice anyway
[10:30] <Eleaf> teroedni, I plan on doing lots of blender stuff.  and just whatever 3d games... lol
[10:30] <cello_rasp> its not like i can browse the virtual c drive.. is it?
[10:30] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: hmmm do you see the big nvidia logo when before that happens?
[10:30] <Falstius> cello_rasp: you can create an alias or shortcut to it.
[10:30] <Draken> nope
[10:30] <Falstius> cello_rasp: the virtual c drive is usually ~/.wine/drive_c/
[10:31] <teroedni> hmm
[10:31] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: then then didnt install
[10:31] <Eleaf> teroedni, who makes your 6200?
[10:31] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: did you enable it aswell?
[10:31] <polpak> Eleaf, an nvidia or ati card will serve you fine. Nvidia tends to have better drivers historically, but that could be subject to change as the drivers are closed source
[10:31] <Draken> errr, i did nvidia-glx-config and everything
[10:31] <Draken> ya i dod
[10:31] <Draken> did even
[10:31] <teroedni> never tried blender,but it start here without problem and 3d works fine
[10:31] <teroedni> XfX
[10:31] <cello_rasp> Falstius thanks a whole lot!!
[10:31] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: and then you...restart?
[10:31] <Draken> ya
[10:32] <Xer0_h4x> hmm
[10:32] <Falstius> cello_rasp: np.
[10:32] <Some_Body> the default x86 download doesn't include ndiswrapper, does it?
[10:32] <blue-frog> Some_Body, yes
[10:32] <bladez> oki so now this is the main conf file ?
[10:32] <Eleaf> is it this teroedni ?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150125
[10:32] <Some_Body> it does?
[10:32] <Some_Body> nice
[10:32] <teroedni> XFX PV-T44A-WAN<--mine is agp
[10:32] <teroedni> sorry
[10:32] <Mabus06> can somebody help me to get my keyboard layout setup correctly Its in Canadian but I want American.
[10:33] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: this happend to me too man hold on trying to remember
[10:33] <teroedni> i guess you need pci-express?
[10:33] <Draken> k
[10:33] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: what card btw?
[10:33] <Eleaf> teroedni, I need agp
[10:33] <Draken> 6600gt
[10:33] <Xer0_h4x> :o oo
[10:33] <Xer0_h4x> ^_^
[10:33] <Mabus06> Some_Body, it would be rather annoying if it wasnt huh.
[10:33] <Xer0_h4x> Does anyone know if the nvidia drivers work fort a 6600gt ?
[10:34] <Draken> well, if u dont get drivers for it
[10:34] <teroedni> Eleaf:
[10:34] <teroedni> XFX PV-T44A-WAN<---thas my card no problems all fine:)
[10:34] <Falstius> Xer0_h4x: they work well for me.
[10:34] <Draken> i can still in KDE for about 10mins before i crash and freeze
[10:34] <Xer0_h4x> k good
[10:34] <Draken> Falstius: which did u get?
[10:34] <Eleaf> teroedni, yes
[10:34] <chapium> Mabus06, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts
[10:34] <Sturgeon> What do i need to download in order to view .jpg files?
[10:34] <Eleaf> Xer0_h4x,
[10:34] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: yeah>
[10:35] <Falstius> Draken, MSI 6600 GT
[10:35] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[10:35] <Xer0_h4x> yeah
[10:35] <Sturgeon> EOG says it doesn't recognize that format
[10:35] <Some_Body> Mabus:indeed. Ran into several package dependancies in Fedora
[10:35] <Draken> ya Falstius , but wat drivers? driver number
[10:35] <Dreamglider> is there any software that will let me watch any dvd regions without locknig the dvd drive on one region after 4 changes ?
[10:35] <illilwrder> hello, i'm a first timer with linux, and i'm unsure how to install Microsoft Office or AIM
[10:35] <illilwrder> can anyone help
[10:35] <illilwrder> please
[10:35] <Shadyman> illilwrder: "Office" should already be installed. It's called OpenOffice
[10:35] <Falstius> Draken, uhm... the ones installed with apt?  I suppose I could check.
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> illilwrder, You don't.
[10:35] <sethk> illilwrder, for AIM I use the gaim program
[10:35] <Draken> ok ok
[10:35] <teroedni> Eleaf:If your gonna shell out 100$ get a better card
[10:35] <redguy> Dreamglider: this is most likely a hardware issue
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> illilwrder, You use free software.
[10:35] <chapium> illilwrder, just ask the question, You dont need to ask to ask ;-)
[10:35] <Draken> i was just wondering maybe u compiled the new ones
[10:35] <Shadyman> illilwrder: And AIM should be "gaim"
[10:35] <Xenguy> illilwrder: for AIM, install GAIM
[10:35] <Xer0_h4x> illilwrde, we dont use that stuff in linux, there are alterintives tho
[10:36] <sethk> illilwrder, windows programs don't run in linux
[10:36] <Draken> any luck Xer0_h4x
[10:36] <Eleaf> teroedni, I'm spending about 70 dollars
[10:36] <Xer0_h4x> listen to these guys :)
[10:36] <bladez> tonyyarusso, could i access windows shared hdd's with my ubuntu ?
[10:36] <illilwrder> do i have to configure AIM
[10:36] <sethk> illilwrder, there are windows emulators, but I don't recommend them
[10:36] <Xenguy> illilwrder: actually GAIM is probably already installed (look under 'Internet')
[10:36] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file?
[10:36] <chapium> illilwrder, try gaim for AIM
[10:36] <teroedni> Eleaf:Hmm i think i would buy a 6600 then
[10:36] <illilwrder> well i need to run Access how do i do that
[10:36] <tonyyarusso> illilwrder, There are ways to run MS Office, such as the CodeWeavers crossover office project, but it would be silly, IMHO.
[10:36] <Draken> cant ;/ im in console irc, i cant get into it :P
[10:36] <Draken> but its set to nvidia, not nv
[10:36] <Eleaf> teroedni, for $70?
[10:37] <sethk> illilwrder, either you run an emulator, or you don't run it.  Hopefully you don't run it.
[10:37] <sethk> illilwrder, if you need windows, you run windows
[10:37] <illilwrder> i hate windows
[10:37] <chapium> illilwrder, if you are industrius you could run windows under vmware to run just about anything
[10:37] <braddabug> what kind of mouse do you consider a laptop touchpad, serial, ps2, or inport bus?
[10:37] <teroedni> Eleaf: Yea if you find one
[10:37] <sethk> Draken, nvidia is the closed source driver from nvidia.  nv is the open source driver from xfree86/xorg
[10:37] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: do you have the live cd?
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Should be able to, but I'm not sure how the setup goes the other direction.  Make sure the workgroup is set up correctly for one thing, I know that.
[10:37] <Linfan> im trying to play music using amarok but it says oss device/dev/dsp is in use by another program? but i dont have no other music playing how can i fix this?
[10:37] <redguy> illilwrder: if you want an access alternative look into kexi
[10:37] <Xenguy> illilwrder: for Access I think you would have to VNC to a wind0ze box (OpenOffice has some database too; not sure whether it is compatible with Access or not)
[10:37] <Draken> nope Xer0_h4x
[10:37] <bladez> well actually ... im on a router
[10:37] <Draken> wat u looking for in the config, i can go look
[10:38] <Mabus06> I'm on a chir.
[10:38] <Mabus06> chair*
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> illilwrder, I've heard of an Access replacement, but don't remember what it was.
[10:38] <Sturgeon> Please, to see jpg files, what do I need?
[10:38] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: hold on a sex
[10:38] <Linfan> before i would open amarok and just play music now everytime i start it i recieve that error message
[10:38] <illilwrder> VNC?
[10:38] <Sturgeon> for EOG
[10:38] <bladez> tonyyarusso, and the win comp is on the usb  ... lol
[10:38] <chapium> illilwrder, there is also openoffice.org and koffice if you are looking for alternatives
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> bladez, The USB connection to the same router?
[10:39] <Eleaf> teroedni, all the 6600's I can find are over 100$
[10:39] <bladez> tonyyarusso, indeed
[10:39] <Dreamglider> redguy, yes but in Windows there are programs like dvd Region free+ccs that will let one look at any dvd region with out changeing the hardware region and even if the hardware counter has no changes left it will still let you look at any  dvd region
[10:39] <Linfan> can somebody please tell me what i have to do so that i can get the led button on my laptops wifi to light up so that i know when i have it on or off?
[10:39] <illilwrder> THANKS for the help
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> bladez, That should actually make your life easier.
[10:39] <bladez> tonyyarusso, usually, on win they can't "see" each other but if i type the ip in the explorer window it accesses em
[10:39] <redguy> Dreamglider: if it can be done in windows it can be done in linux most propably
[10:40] <redguy> Dreamglider: Did you ask uncle google?
[10:40] <Xenguy> illilwrder: preface your comments to me with my nick please.  VNC is a way to remote control another desktop; it works on both linux and wind0ze
[10:40] <Linfan> my volume led is not working so any assistance would be appreciated
[10:40] <Dwayne> anyone know anyway to view windows media player video i Linux??
[10:40] <Dreamglider> nop
[10:40] <chapium> illilwrder, tsclient can remotely connect to windows also
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> bladez, In your network folder on the Win, check for a Tools > Map network drive.
[10:40] <Dreamglider> i?l have a look
[10:40] <bladez> oki
[10:40] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell dwayne about restrictedformats
[10:40] <illilwrder> i don't have anyone to connect too
[10:41] <spiregrain> illilwrder- If you don't *really* need to run Access, but you need to run a graphical-UI database programme, you could try Openoffice Base instead
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> !tell Dwayne about restricted formats
[10:41] <redguy> illilwrder: what do you need access for?
[10:41] <di||itante> Dwayne: apt-get install win32-codecs - i think
[10:42] <maxkelley> what is the ubuntu irssi package called?
[10:42] <illilwrder> I need access b/c I have a database that I need to add files too
[10:42] <bladez> tonyyarusso, like ...
[10:42] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: are you using screen right now?
[10:42] <illilwrder> i've been doing it all under office
[10:42] <Draken> screen ?
[10:42] <Xer0_h4x> nvm
[10:42] <dabaR> maxkelley: search for irssi in the packages list.
[10:42] <thechris> need help printing
[10:42] <maxkelley> dabaR: what pkgs list?
[10:42] <chapium> thechris, printing with what
[10:42] <illilwrder> where is the command line?
[10:42] <FliesLikeABrick> maxkelley,  irssi-text
[10:42] <bladez> tonyyarusso, should i  add one?
[10:42] <maxkelley> thanks FliesLikeABrick
[10:42] <teroedni> Eleaf:I see that. Sure there is no other online store?     Here in Norway we got many;)
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> di||itante, I don't think that's available in the repos because it's not free and so does not match Ubuntu policy.  Can be gotten through unofficial ones or as a .deb download though.
[10:42] <thechris> chapium, epson stylus color 900, parallel port
[10:43] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: exit irssi and try modprob nvidia or nvidia-glx not sure
[10:43] <Eleaf> teroedni, I would have to get it online.  no stores here lol
[10:43] <redguy> illilwrder: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=40
[10:43] <thechris> chapium, i cannot print until i turn the printer off, then back on.  it then prints 1/2 page and won't print again
[10:43] <Eleaf> teroedni, I love newegg lol
[10:43] <Draken> modprob ?
[10:43] <Xer0_h4x> yes
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Yeah, I think once you put the IP in there, it will map it in your Network Places after that as the drive letter you choose.
[10:43] <lorenzo> <new to ubuntu, how save  is ubuntu out of d box, do i need to change some settings, install firewall, anti-virus, spayware blocker sorry im new to linux n ubuntu looks kool, thanx
[10:43] <Xer0_h4x> or modprobe  ...GAH
[10:43] <chapium> thechris, that sounds fun.  I had a little trouble getting my HP parallel printer going.  The driver file had a mistake in it
[10:44] <bladez> tonyyarusso, yeah but i didnt configure anythin on ubuntu
[10:44] <bladez> 192.
[10:44] <bladez> ops sry bout that, got the wrong kb lol
[10:44] <redguy> illilwrder: CrossoverOffice will allow you to run Access on GNU/Linux
[10:44] <di||itante> tonyyarusso: yeah, i think is is in universe or something. I didnt have to get it from a 3rd party though
[10:44] <dabaR> maxkelley: when you find out the package name, what are you going to do about it, insatll it?
[10:44] <Draken> i did modprode nvidia, it just like, did nothing
[10:44] <teroedni> Eleaf:I was talking about online stores .Here in Norway we got atleast 6 cheap and good online store.
[10:44] <chapium> thechris, your issue might be driver related too since its just plain acting weird
[10:44] <Xer0_h4x> Draken:  its modprob nvidia or nvidia-glx
[10:44] <Xer0_h4x> try ot
[10:44] <Xer0_h4x> it
[10:44] <Draken> when i did nvidia, it does nothing, and glx gives no such moduble error
[10:44] <thechris> chapium, hmm, i'll try to update
[10:44] <Xer0_h4x> hmm
[10:44] <polpak> lorenzo, by default ubuntu doesn't run any daemon processes that listen to the outside world. It is therefore very secure. The only vulnerablilities it has are any that you explicitly create after installatino
[10:45] <spiregrain> lorenzo - probably not- firewall wouldn't hurt, but there really aren't enough linux viruses in the wild to be worth while having an av program
[10:45] <redguy> illilwrder: But you have to buy it. Since you can afford MS Office with Access that shouldn't be a problem for you. If you can't afford it consider switching to a open source alternative
[10:45] <bladez> tonyyarusso, i entered the ip of the linux comp but ... well it cant find it
[10:45] <Chousuke> spiregrain: there are no linux viruses in the wild. Or are there?
[10:45] <redguy> illilwrder: like Kexi, which I mentioned earlier
[10:45] <Xer0_h4x> Draken:  modprob glx try it
[10:45] <illilwrder> i'm still having issues connecting to to GAIM, thanks a lot redguy
[10:45] <thechris> chapium, no updates available.  how do i downgrade it and what package?
[10:45] <Draken> nothing Xer0_h4x  ;/
[10:45] <Xer0_h4x> LOL
[10:46] <Xer0_h4x> WTF
[10:46] <spiregrain> Chousuke- can't think of any
[10:46] <chapium> thechris, if you can find the driver file.. my issue was as simple as uncommenting a line
[10:46] <chapium> thechris, i did a bit of googling to figure out the quirk with my printer and ubuntu...  eventually i found somehting
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> di||itante, Hmm, I only see it in the PLF repo.
[10:46] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: in your xorg.conf what does it say under Section "Device" ?
[10:47] <chapium> thechris, googling/searching the ubuntu forums
[10:47] <polpak> Chousuke, making viruses for linux is not terribly productive. At most the virus can only affect the small popluation using linux. And add to that the fact that the virus would be trivially easy to remove (since only root users have access to system files) it's just not worthwhile
[10:47] <bladez> tonyyarusso, how could i browse the win comp from the linux one ?
[10:47] <Some_Body> hm, need to install a driver for my network card...
[10:47] <Eleaf> teroedni, newegg is the best I've found so far for price
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Yeah, I'm not sure how seeing the Win shares on the Ubuntu machine works.  Look for options in smbclient.
[10:47] <Chousuke> polpak: yeah.
[10:47] <teroedni> Eleaf:Heres mine http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1293096&CatId=0
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> bladez, How did you enter the IP?
[10:47] <polpak> bladez, tonyyarusso , install smb4k
[10:47] <bladez> tonyyarusso, lol damit wheres that
[10:47] <Chousuke> polpak: trojans and web browser exploits are worse
[10:47] <Manifold> Hullo.
[10:47] <bladez> polpak, tho i dunno how to conf it lol
[10:48] <Draken> err Xer0_h4x , it has geforce 6600gt , then nvidia, and PCI:1:00 or something to that effect
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> bladez, Should be already present, just type it with --help.
[10:48] <chapium> bladez, to see windows shares in nautilus try smb:\\computername
[10:48] <bladez> oki ty
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> polpak, Sounds promising.
[10:48] <polpak> Chousuke, but even those are trivially easy to remove since the configurations for the browser are stored in your home dir
[10:48] <bladez> oki ty
[10:48] <Eleaf> thanks teroedni
[10:48] <polpak> bladez, smb4k doens't really need any configing
[10:48] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: well..thats right....
[10:48] <teroedni> Eleaf:By the way im playing with Blender know. Whats is it for?
[10:49] <bladez> polpak, sry didnt knew that, im a newb in linux :(
[10:49] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: when you installed the drivers did you install nvidia-glx?
[10:49] <Chousuke> polpak: I meant exploits that give the attacker access to the system
[10:49] <Draken> Xer0_h4x: ya, and nvidia-settings
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> bladez, I seem to think something like smbclient \\192.168.1.12\ did it.
[10:49] <thechris> hmm, that was of no help
[10:49] <Chousuke> if even a user's home dir is compromised it's a bad thing.
[10:49] <Xer0_h4x> Draken:  k good
[10:49] <polpak> bladez, you just have to sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k && sudo chmod ug+s /usr/bin/smbmnt /usr/bin/smbumount
[10:49] <Poci> hi
[10:50] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:50] <Chousuke> of course a tech-savvy user will have a few simple ways of protecting important files.
[10:50] <bladez> yay i can see em
[10:50] <polpak> Chousuke, yes. But that can only really happen via the user running a program that allows the exploit
[10:50] <Xer0_h4x> hello Poci
[10:50] <thechris> how do i downgrade packages?
[10:50] <Eleaf> teroedni, blender is a 3d application.  For creating 3d things ;).  Similar to lightwave or maya.
[10:50] <Chousuke> polpak: Exactly that wayit will
[10:50] <shep|lappy> how do i get ubuntu to recognize an added hd?
[10:50] <Some_Body> I'm at the step where it says "Configure the network". It did not detect my wireless card, and it's offering me the option to go back to the previous step to install the necessary drive. If I go back to the previous step, remove the boot disk, and insert the disk with the driver on it, will installation stop?
[10:50] <Eleaf> opensource
[10:50] <polpak> Chousuke, there are no known remote exploits for Firefox
[10:50] <coNP> thechris: install a lower version
[10:50] <Chousuke> polpak: not right now, yeah
[10:50] <Xenguy> Can anyone explain briefly the difference between slots 'PCI' and 'PCI-express' (I have 1 of the former, and 2 of the latter IIRC) ?
[10:50] <teroedni> ahh cool gotta check it out;:)
[10:50] <Eleaf> Xer0_h4x, YAY
[10:51] <Chousuke> security is better in Firefox and Linux in general.
[10:51] <Eleaf> teroedni, www.blender3d.org = D
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> Eleaf: StumbleUpon informed me of blender just the other day.  Looks interesting, but I'm waiting until I'm back at school with DSL to download it.
[10:51] <Chousuke> but there are bad apps. :)
[10:51] <Xer0_h4x> Draken:  still there mate?
[10:51] <di||itante> tonyyarusso: what is PLF
[10:51] <thechris> coNP, no lower versions are listed though
[10:51] <Eleaf> tonyyarusso, it's not very large, only 6 or 7 megabytes
[10:51] <coNP> thechris, what do you want to do
[10:51] <spiregrain> Penguin Liberation Front  (really)
[10:52] <Draken> Xer0_h4x:  says NO SCREENS FOUND
[10:52] <Xer0_h4x> ooo
[10:52] <Xer0_h4x> that helps
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> di||itante, spiregrain's right.  People who put together stuff that's proprietary and offer it on their servers, the stuff that's really annoying to install.
[10:52] <Draken> i have a screen ;<
[10:52] <Eleaf> tonyyarusso, teroedni download it from blender.  Not apt, it's usually a newer version.
[10:52] <Draken> :P
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> Eleaf: Good to know.
[10:52] <polpak> tonyyarusso, though even the older versions are perfectly usable for most things
[10:52] <thechris> coNP, printing is apparently broken in 5.10.  so i want to use the old gimp-print drivers
[10:52] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: ^_^\
[10:52] <shep|lappy> i need some help getting ubuntu to recognize a hard drive just added... anyone help with that?
[10:53] <Draken> so wat i do ?
[10:53] <spiregrain> evening, sir
[10:53] <dabaR> shep|lappy: sudo fdisk -l and post that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:53] <coNP> thechris: get the .deb you want to install, and install it via dpkg
[10:53] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: hold on consultiing a friend
[10:53] <Draken> k thanks
[10:53] <lorenzo> <curious newbie guy here, does ubuntu boots with firewall or does one have to install, i tried other distributions n they boot with firewall but ubuntu doesn't i think, correct me if im wrong. ubuntu looks well organized n d people who created d webpage laid it out nicely good job
[10:53] <di||itante> it is in one on the Ubuntu repos though, thats where I got it
[10:53] <teroedni> Wow i can do that with blender :)
[10:54] <polpak> lorenzo, I thought we already answered you
[10:54] <polpak> lorenzo, there are no daemons listening to the outside world on ubuntu by default
[10:54] <dabaR> lorenzo: yes, there is a firewall, but no rules built in. Do you want to have a firewall, and if you do, do you want one with an easy GUI?
[10:54] <polpak> lorenzo, therefore it is secure
[10:54] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: alright can you please join #frosted
[10:55] <polpak> lorenzo, if you have something specific you are needing to do vis a vis firewalling you can either install firestarter or manually configure your ipchains
[10:55] <spiregrain> no programs listening to the outside world = no need for firewall
[10:55] <polpak> lorenzo, if you do not then you don't need a firewall
[10:55] <lorenzo> oh ok thanx
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> dabaR, Which ones have an easy GUI?
[10:55] <teroedni> Eleaf:Im running dapper so i think my version is new enough:) Playing with blender right know althought i dont know what im doing
[10:55] <polpak> lorenzo, err iptables, not ipchains.. Sorry.. still living in the past =p
[10:56] <dabaR> tonyyarusso: well, easy GUI:)...but firestarter has a GUI at least.
[10:56] <lorenzo> imma secure freak hehehe but thanx
[10:56] <spiregrain> ipchains are *so* 2.4
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> dabaR, Ah.
[10:56] <dabaR> teroedni: recipe for breakage
[10:56] <polpak> spiregrain, 2.2 even ;p
[10:56] <teroedni> dabar:I am good at that;)
[10:57] <polpak> teroedni, blender has some good tutorials on their site
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> Ubuntu is soo in!
[10:57] <shep> dabar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6467
[10:57] <Eleaf> teroedni, lol.  Middle click moves around in 3d space ;).  It is extremely hard at first.  You really should got to blender.org and find some tutorials even though many are old
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> its hit new thing
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> its the new black
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> xD
[10:57] <polpak> Xer0_h4x, it's so jerkin!
[10:57] <teroedni> Eleaf :Will do that Thanks
[10:57] <teroedni> and Thanks Polpak
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> its....'Hip'
[10:57] <Xer0_h4x> xD
[10:58] <dabaR> shep: is it windows files on that drive?
[10:58] <thegladiator> hi
[10:58] <polpak> thegladiator, hola
[10:58] <thegladiator> how do i install PSM for mozilla internet application suite ?
[10:58] <andrew_> i'm very surprised not to see gourmet recipe manager in the repos, since that's a great desktop program.  am i missing something?
[10:59] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: what is it?
[10:59] <redguy> thegladiator: PSM? what is that?
[10:59] <shep> dabar, yeah, well, mostly media
[10:59] <thegladiator> personal security manager
[10:59] <dabaR> !ntfs
[10:59] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[10:59] <dabaR> shep^
[10:59] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, it's a recipe program where you can create/edit/print cooking recipes and create shopping lists from them.
[10:59] <polpak> andrew_, I've thought about developing one.. But never got around to nailing down the specs
[11:00] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: like pen and paper on linux?
[11:00] <Xer0_h4x> ^_^
[11:00] <shep> dabar, gracias
[11:00] <shep> dabar, one more question if you don't mind
[11:00] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, sure... uninstall beagle and forget your webbrowser; you can get all the information you need at the library.
[11:00] <Pygi> andrew: ping
[11:00] <dabaR> shep: or you could do it manually, but it is more involved, and I hate typing.
[11:01] <andrew_> hey Pygi
[11:01] <Pygi> ho, DabaR :)
[11:01] <andrew_> polpak, i'd be interested in doing it but ubuntu package management is one of those mysteries of the universe. :)
[11:01] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: point well said :)
[11:01] <shep> dabar, any idea on how to get my wirless keyboard/mouse to be recognized?
[11:01] <Sturgeon> EOG can't display jpg files, it says it doesn't recognize the file format, anyone knows why?
[11:01] <thegladiator> mozilla internet applicatiopn suite or simply mozilla borwser asks me for PSM if i need to acess my gmail or yahoo mail !hwop can i reolve this ?? i like moz over the buggy firefox
[11:01] <Sturgeon> Please?
[11:01] <thegladiator> can someone enlighten me ?
[11:01] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, it's really very nice, kinda as meta-organized like f-spot is with photos (for example)
[11:01] <dabaR> shep: no.
[11:02] <Xer0_h4x> Sturgeon: ooooo url?
[11:02] <Pygi> btw. andrew, I've made this, so use it if needed :)
[11:02] <Pygi> !wait in line
[11:02] <ubotu> wait in line is probably like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:02] <shep> dabar, thanks anyway
[11:02] <Sturgeon> Xer0_h4x: what?
[11:02] <andrew_> Pygi, lol
[11:02] <Dwayne> shep--check your bios settings..that's how I had to do mine..
[11:02] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[11:02] <Xer0_h4x> andrew_: url?
[11:02] <Pygi> on the other hand, read your pm, or private or whateva'
[11:02] <shep> dwayne, k, thanks
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator: Buggy Firefox?
[11:02] <dabaR> bok -
[11:02] <illilwrder> hello all again, i'm having issues installing the demo version of crossover office, can anyone help please?
[11:02] <Dwayne> shep: yw..
[11:03] <andrew_> Xer0_h4x, http://grecipe-manager.sourceforge.net/
[11:03] <Xer0_h4x> thx
[11:03] <Pygi> andrew: ping, wake up
[11:03] <illilwrder> and also using GAIM it says the password or SN is incorrect, but it should be
[11:03] <Pygi> no, do not use Gaim :/
[11:03] <andrew_> Pygi, ironically, i've only been here because i installed ubuntu for my parents... though i am seriously thinking about switching to it on my home computer.
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> uhh
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> uhh
[11:03] <thegladiator> tonyyarusso, pretty much at my end . it cloess very often without any warning
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> UHH
[11:03] <mrkoje> illilwrder,  where did you get a demo version? I have been looking for that.
[11:03] <bluefoxicy> My rhythmbox 0.9.2 in Ubuntu Dapper makes clicking noises when it changes songs
[11:03] <andrew_> Pygi, but i don't think i'll be switching away from gaim. :-P
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator, What version?
[11:04] <jrattner1> What is dapper?
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> like when you click to open a folder and it goes bumpbump
[11:04] <illilwrder> just on the site
[11:04] <andrew_> !dapper
[11:04] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[11:04] <bluefoxicy> it does that when it automatically changes songs
[11:04] <Pygi> andrew: no, do NOT use Gaim.... :P
[11:04] <thegladiator> 1.0.7
[11:04] <polpak> andrew_,  you can always suggest grecipe be added to the universe repos by the motu guys
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> Pygi: You use?
[11:04] <weinberg> Hi good afternoon
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator, From Mozilla or Ubuntu repo?
[11:04] <SirKillalot> is there a tutorial how to install kde on my gnome ubuntu machine? ( I want to run kde beside gnome)
[11:04] <Pygi> tonyyarusso: nothin' yet :P wait, time will tell :)
[11:05] <andrew_> polpak, i shall... i assume information on how to do that is on the wiki?
[11:05] <polpak> SirKillalot, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:05] <krystoff> hi there ...happy new year !!!!!!!!!!
[11:05] <weinberg> Please i have a doud i instal for first time ubunto and i need to install the sount
[11:05] <thegladiator> tonyyarusso, ubuntu . i havent tried the latest yet .
[11:05] <SirKillalot> polpak, will it affect my current installation negatively?
[11:05] <weinberg> o don't have idea
[11:05] <spiregrain> you could always try krecipes...
[11:05] <krystoff> please i've forgot the link for the sources.list
[11:05] <polpak> andrew_, I'm pretty sure it's on the motu wiki
[11:05] <spiregrain> unless that's agains your religion
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> thegladiator, (Curious because 1.07 from both Mozilla for Windows and Ubuntu repo was fantastic for me, and I've had one issue so far with 1.5 from Mozilla on Linux.)
[11:05] <andrew_> spiregrain, sure, if you want to install the base KDE libs... but i don't.
[11:05] <SirKillalot> polpak, I do not want to mess my whole system :-/
[11:06] <polpak> SirKillalot, it won't
[11:06] <andrew_> spiregrain, no religion discussion here though. :)
[11:06] <krystoff> !ubotu repos
[11:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:06] <andrew_> spiregrain, i used opera for a long time.
[11:06] <polpak> !sources
[11:06] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:06] <thegladiator> tonyyarusso, i am afraid with my FF has closed on more than one occasion and that really forced me to try mozilla internet app suite
[11:06] <krystoff> thx :)
[11:07] <andrew_> thegladiator, you could try one of the mozilla-using browsers--epiphany or galeon, for example.
[11:07] <Manifold> Guys, in the Ubuntu File Browser, how do I add files to the  Places sidebar?
[11:07] <wizardjames> i have a prob , wavpack music files are not being noticed. on my install of ubuntu.   xmms , amarok , juk wont desply them in the list.    like it does not know what a .wv file is
[11:07] <andrew_> thegladiator, arguably they fit in with a GNOME desktop better anyway. ^_^
[11:07] <thegladiator> true :)
[11:07] <andrew_> Manifold, browse to that folder and bookmark it on the bookmarks menu.
[11:07] <thegladiator> tehre are some issues with ephi , i shall try galeon
[11:07] <krystoff> do you know a place where i can find a tuto about pine and ubuntu ?
[11:08] <Shadyman> !pine
[11:08] <ubotu> Shadyman: Are you smoking crack?
[11:08] <andrew_> Manifold, but it's really the GNOME file browser, to be technical. ;-)
[11:08] <Manifold> Sorry.
[11:08] <Manifold> My mistake.
[11:08] <Manifold> :D
[11:08] <andrew_> Manifold, no worries at all. :)
[11:08] <andrew_> Shadyman, lol
[11:09] <Pygi> !wait in line
[11:09] <ubotu> well, wait in line is like, there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> If someone had a server install and then installed a ?ubuntu-desktop package, would they have to set up anything or do something special to access the graphical version after that?
[11:09] <mite> http://www.crazyass-irc.net/qdb.php?84
[11:09] <dabaR> Pygi: rename to patience?
[11:09] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: not really....
[11:09] <andrew_> dabaR, maybe use both?
[11:09] <weinberg> Alguien de aqui habla espaol
[11:09] <Pygi> dabaR: I would, if I knew how :/
[11:09] <weinberg> ?
[11:09] <teroedni> question.When you installing ubuntu from cd is it possible to get into console before proceding with network install?
[11:10] <dabaR> ubotu: forget wait in line
[11:10] <ubotu> i forgot wait in line, dabaR
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> Blissex, Will they need to add it to their startup scripts, or is it already?
[11:10] <Pygi> huh,k,
[11:10] <Pygi> I'll add now
[11:10] <bshumate> 
[11:10] <dabaR> ubotu: patience is there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:10] <ubotu> okay, dabaR
[11:10] <Pygi> !patience
[11:11] <ubotu> patience is probably there are a lot of question...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:11] <andrew_> dabaR, *a lot of questions
[11:11] <Chousuke> Hmm
[11:11] <Pygi> ubotu: forget patience
[11:11] <ubotu> i forgot patience, Pygi
[11:11] <Shadyman> hehe
[11:11] <Shadyman> !patience
[11:11] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Shadyman
[11:11] <Shadyman> aw
[11:11] <dabaR> ubotu: tell Pygi about msg the bot
[11:11] <Pygi> ubotu: patience there is a lot of questions...and only few of us can answer...please be patient and wait...
[11:11] <ubotu> okay, Pygi
[11:11] <dabaR> ubotu: no, patience is there are a lot of questions...and only few of us who can answer... please be patient and wait....
[11:11] <ubotu> okay, dabaR
[11:12] <Chousuke> ubotu: no, patience is <reply> There are a lot of questions, but only a few answerers. Please be patient.
[11:12] <ubotu> okay, Chousuke
[11:12] <Chousuke> !patience
[11:12] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only a few answerers. Please be patient.
[11:12] <andrew_> answerers???
[11:12] <Pygi> huh :/
[11:12] <andrew_> O_o
[11:12] <Pygi> strange word :/
[11:12] <Chousuke> someone who answers :)
[11:12] <andrew_> :-P
[11:13] <gerald-volt> is it possible that ubunut can cause more heat in my cpu than in windows?
[11:13] <Shadyman> Well it coulda said "wisemen" or "mystics" :P
[11:13] <Chousuke> heh
[11:13] <Chousuke> gerald-volt: is it a laptop?
[11:13] <Pygi> ubotu: no, patience is <reply> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:13] <ubotu> okay, Pygi
[11:13] <andrew_> Shadyman, or R0><0RZ r00t hax0rz!
[11:13] <Pygi> !patience
[11:13] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:13] <Pygi> there we go :)
[11:13] <gerald-volt> nope, it's a normal computer
[11:13] <dabaR> !+msg the bot
[11:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists.
[11:13] <Chousuke> That's better.
[11:13] <andrew_> Pygi, i like.
[11:14] <Pygi> dabaR: I know :)
[11:14] <gerald-volt> and I can't check my cpu temp in linux because I don't have anythingn in my thermal_zone directory
[11:14] <meta> hey guys
[11:14] <Pygi> everyone OK with that type of ubotu speaking?
[11:14] <polpak> Pygi, sounds fine to me
[11:14] <meta> i'm an ubuntu noob ... got a couple of q's
[11:14] <Shadyman> Well, the "rumor has it" part gets a bit repetitive, but hey
[11:14] <spiregrain> !botsnak
[11:14] <ubotu> spiregrain: What?
[11:14] <spiregrain> drat
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> !botsnack
[11:15] <ubotu> thanks tonyyarusso :)
[11:15] <Pygi> Shady: well, we can't remove it :P
[11:15] <andrew_> does anyone know how to change the date and time on a file?
[11:15] <Goldfisch> Never trust a rumor. :)
[11:15] <Shadyman> Pygi: Figured.
[11:15] <Shadyman> !botsnack
[11:15] <Pygi> goldfisch: lol :)
[11:15] <Draken> wats cmd to reconfig Xorg ?
[11:15] <SirKillalot> if I want to remove "gwenview" with "apt-get remove" it wants to remove my whole kubuntu-desktop!! how can I make it just remove gwenview?
[11:15] <Shadyman> Oh well. back to reading.
[11:15] <polpak> meta, no meta questions pls.. Just ask your questions and someone will answer
[11:15] <Chousuke> SirKillalot: kubuntu-desktop can be safely removed
[11:15] <Kyral> SirKillalot: kubuntu-desktop is just a metaackage. Its not even a software
[11:16] <Pygi> gnomefreak: Ping
[11:16] <Kyral> SirKillalot: It just exists to pull in other packages
[11:16] <Draken> wats cmd to reconfig Xorg ?
[11:16] <meta> got a quick q: does ubuntu come w/ a samba server?
[11:16] <gerald-volt> anyone know how I can check my cpu temperature, I don' t have anything in my thermal_zone directory
[11:16] <SirKillalot> but I do not want my desktop to be removed, well its secure?
[11:16] <andrew_> Draken, don't repeat; i'm looking up sth.
[11:16] <Draken> ta
[11:16] <Kyral> Draken: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:16] <polpak> SirKillalot, but if you remove kubuntu-desktop you may have trouble with dist-upgrades
[11:16] <Goldfisch> You can always use synaptic to list what files are associated with your installed packages. That can help you assess the impact of removing a package.
[11:16] <yaaar> word
[11:16] <SirKillalot> see-.
[11:16] <Kyral> polpak: not really lol
[11:17] <andrew_> Kyral, thanks; i forgot the package name. :)  Draken, what Kyral said. :)
[11:17] <SirKillalot> Kyral, can I remove it?
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> SirKillalot, Chousuke, Kyral, I've had that happen too, with ubuntu-desktop.  On my next boot everything was busted.  Ended up starting over.  (This was about a week into Linux.)
[11:17] <Kyral> SirKillalot: you can remove it now, but when you jump to Dapper in April reinstall it to be safe
[11:17] <SirKillalot> lol
[11:17] <SirKillalot> what a shit
[11:17] <chapium> Draken, dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[11:17] <chapium> or whatever the package is named
[11:17] <polpak> meta, system->administration->shared folders
[11:17] <Chousuke> xserver-xorg
[11:17] <Xer0_h4x> i just old him that
[11:17] <ompaul> SirKillalot, language pleassssssssse
[11:17] <Xer0_h4x> its
[11:17] <Xer0_h4x> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:17] <meta> thnx polpak.
[11:18] <yaaar> anybody around here know a lot about soundcards and could give me some advice on what to buy? I'm looking for a real cheap card that will do spdif to my 5.1 stereo
[11:18] <Draken> ta guys
[11:18] <Chousuke> SirKillalot: It's not really complicated.
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> i'm helping him in another room :)
[11:18] <andrew_> Draken, sounds like you have 5 people wanting to help you. :-P
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> SirKillalot: Scott?
[11:18] <deejoe_> apologies to those who've seen this earlier:  ok, in GNOME/metacity I can go to System, Log Off... and then choose hibernate.  question is, how can I hibernate from the command line?  the "hibernate" command doesn't seem to be the thing.
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> oops
[11:18] <Xer0_h4x> wrong person
[11:18] <yaaar> thinking about the sb live series, but i'm still confused as to whether the spdif works right in linux....what i've been able to google is inconclusive
[11:18] <meta> which package mgr does ubuntu use? i reckon its not rpm.
[11:18] <Chousuke> dpkg
[11:18] <Kyral> meta: Apt-Get
[11:18] <polpak> meta, it uses deb
[11:18] <Chousuke> well, dpkg/APT
[11:19] <SirKillalot> are the ubuntu repos already kde 3.5?
[11:19] <polpak> meta, apt is the repo manager, dpkg is the package manager
[11:19] <Manifold> Is root indicated by several slashes?
[11:19] <Manifold> // ?
[11:19] <Kyral> polpak: Apt-Get is the Package Manager
[11:19] <chapium> SirKillalot, it should tell you in the details on synaptic
[11:19] <Chousuke> is root
[11:19] <Chousuke> ////// is root too, actually. ;P
[11:19] <tonyyarusso> deejoe_, I can do it with /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh, but there's gotta be a better way.  My keyboard shortcut's busted.
[11:19] <meta> k, thnx.guys.
[11:19] <Manifold> Any number of slashes?
[11:19] <Chousuke> yeah
[11:19] <deejoe_> tonyyarusso: thanks
[11:19] <Manifold> Xchat doesn't recognise it.
[11:20] <Manifold> :/
[11:20] <Chousuke> try ls /////
[11:20] <krystoff> hi please postfix is the same stuff that nbsmtp right ?
[11:20] <yaaar> anybody around here have experience with sound blaste live cards using spdif?
[11:20] <Manifold> LOAD -e /mnt/hda5/Vital Documents/Miranda IM/Plugin/xchat.txt
[11:20] <Manifold> That should work right?
[11:20] <Chousuke> hm
[11:20] <Chousuke> it has spaces
[11:20] <SirKillalot> what's the url for the ubnutu web repo browser?
[11:20] <Chousuke> you need to escape spaces
[11:20] <Chousuke> with \
[11:20] <Chousuke> like /This\ has\ spaces/
[11:21] <Manifold> I stick that in the middle of spaces.
[11:21] <Kyral> SirKillalot: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:21] <Chousuke> single quotes or double quotes might work too
[11:21] <polpak> Chousuke, or you can use '/This has spaces/'
[11:21] <polpak> Chousuke, or even /'This has spaces'/
[11:21] <Chousuke> polpak: not always though.
[11:22] <Manifold> I'll give it shot.
[11:22] <polpak> Chousuke, it does in bash
[11:22] <Chousuke> yeah, but this was xchat
[11:22] <Draken> can someone help me, i just installed new nvidia drivers, but now i cant get into X, the error log says something about NO SCREENs, and NVIDIA kernel module not found or something
[11:22] <Manifold> Argh.
[11:22] <Manifold> Doesn't work
[11:22] <Manifold> Hm,
[11:22] <yaaar> Draken: do 'lsmod | grep nv'
[11:23] <polpak> Manifold, just make a symlink to the directory that doesn't use spaces
[11:23] <polpak> Manifold, and reference the file that way
[11:23] <yaaar> Draken: do you see the line for the nvidia driver?
[11:23] <deejoe_> tonyyarusso: worked for me.  thanks again.
[11:23] <Manifold> Now.. what is a symlink?
[11:23] <polpak> man ln
[11:23] <Draken> ya yaaar
[11:23] <polpak> Manifold, or better still you can make a symlink to the file directly
[11:23] <Draken> nvidia      4568636
[11:24] <Kr0ntab> see yas....
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> In Bluefish, whenever I type a paired tag it automatically puts its closer after it.  Given the way I do things, this gets really annoying; I'd rather just type all of it myself.  How do I turn it off?
[11:24] <yaaar> Draken: hmm
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> That's for HTML, btw.
[11:24] <yaaar> Draken: and do 'grep nv /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[11:24] <Manifold>  DESCRIPTION
[11:24] <Manifold> symlink creates a symbolic link named NewPath which contains the string OldPath.
[11:24] <Manifold> Aha.
[11:24] <yaaar> Draken: that says "Device: nvidia" or something similar? i.e. not device: nv
[11:24] <Manifold> What's the difference between that and a win32 shortcut then?
[11:25] <Draken> ya
[11:25] <Draken> its set to nvidia, not nv
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> Manifold, Things can reference the symlink as if it were actually the file.
[11:25] <polpak> Manifold, a symlink is part of the filesystem
[11:25] <yaaar> Draken: right. well, that is a bit odd.
[11:25] <yaaar> Draken: or rather, it's odd that it's not working...those are setup ok.
[11:25] <Draken> ya
[11:25] <andrew_> is there a default group that encompasses both adm and users?
[11:26] <Draken> but isnt there a pkg called nvidia-module or something
[11:26] <Draken> maybe i need it
[11:26] <yaaar> Draken: how did you install the nvidia drivers? from linux-restricted-modules?
[11:26] <Manifold> Error while linking.. Error "Operation not permitted" while creating a link to "/mnt/hda5/V.../xchat.txt".
[11:26] <Draken> ya, got them from there
[11:26] <Manifold> o_O
[11:26] <Manifold> Do I need root access or something?
[11:26] <yaaar> Draken: one sec...
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Manifold, Probably, sudo it.
[11:26] <polpak> Manifold, you need write access to the directory you're making the symlink in
[11:27] <Manifold> I do though.
[11:27] <polpak> Manifold,  you shouldn't need root access
[11:27] <Manifold> I just wrote that file.
[11:27] <polpak> Manifold, what was the command you used?
[11:27] <bulio> how can I use fluxbox in ubuntu?
[11:27] <Manifold> I right clicked it in GNOME file browser.
[11:27] <ara> i have a folder on my desktop which has a little "lock" symbol on it and i can't delete it, what's the command to take that lock off?
[11:27] <Manifold> > create link
[11:27] <Grackshrike> Is there anything I can do about window "streaking" in X? When I drag a window across another window, like a dialog across firefox, it causes the edge of the window to be repeated until the firefox screen redraws. Is there any way to improve performance so that doesn't happen? I'm running Ubuntu Breezy on a 1.2GHz VIA EPIA with eVGA nvidia GeForce MX4000 64MB graphics.
[11:28] <Pygi> !patience
[11:28] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:28] <yaaar> Draken: for now you can get X back real quick by just editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing that device line from "nvidia" to "nv"
[11:28] <andrew_> Pygi, :) putting it to good use
[11:28] <Pygi> andrew: huh :P
[11:28] <polpak> Manifold, open a terminal
[11:28] <Draken> ya i know yaaar, but with nv drivers, my x crashs and freezes randomly ;/
[11:28] <Manifold> Have done, polpak
[11:28] <yaaar> Draken: really?
[11:28] <Draken> ya ;/
[11:28] <Grackshrike> bulio, install fluxbox through apt, then edit your .xinitrc so that it says 'exec fluxbox'.
[11:29] <yaaar> Draken: what kind of card is this?
[11:29] <polpak> Manifold, cd to the directory you want the link in (probably your home directory)
[11:29] <Draken> 6600gt
[11:29] <bulio> Grackshrike: Thats all?
[11:29] <Grackshrike> Yeah. You can remove a lot of the gnome stuff if you want...
[11:29] <yaaar> Draken: has it worked properly in other environments (i.e. windows or some other linux?)
[11:29] <Draken> windows 100%
[11:29] <dotrig> How i install vlc on ubuntu..
[11:29] <dotrig> Cant find good trres
[11:29] <polpak> ara, right click the folder and look at the permissions
[11:29] <Draken> there was some stuff on nvidia forums about this problem
[11:29] <yaaar> Draken: what arch you on?
[11:29] <dotrig> tree's
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> Can I turn off HTML paired tag autocompletion in Bluefish?  (And how?)
[11:29] <Draken> 64bit
[11:30] <yaaar> Draken: amd?
[11:30] <Draken> ya
[11:30] <yaaar> yeah
[11:30] <yaaar> hmm
[11:30] <Stormx2> Hey all. I'm back on windows for now.
[11:30] <ara> polpak, then?
[11:30] <Manifold> Done it,  polpak
[11:30] <dotrig> Can one say how i install vlc?..
[11:30] <Manifold> Had to figure out how to use it.
[11:30] <polpak> ara, who's the owner of the dir
[11:30] <Manifold> Is it CD /root ?
[11:30] <Stormx2> dotrig: apt-get install vlc?
[11:30] <Sionide> dotrig, sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:30] <yoni> Hello, I'm new to Ubuntu. I'm trying to build cinepaint however when i run ./configure I get "error: *** TIFF dev lib not found ***
[11:30] <yoni> "
[11:30] <Grackshrike> dotrig, enable ubuntu universe and install it using apt,
[11:30] <polpak> Manifold, lowercase, and you probably don't want it in roots home dir
[11:30] <ara> polpak. root
[11:31] <Grackshrike> dotrig, look in the wiki to find out how to enable the universe sources
[11:31] <Crazy_Man> everyone should have universe and multiverse repos enabled IMHO
[11:31] <Pygi> !repos
[11:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:31] <yaaar> Draken: so, what's the output of 'uname -a' ?
[11:31] <polpak> ara, ah.. is the directory mounted from somewhere?
[11:31] <ara> polpak. no it's a downloaded dir
[11:31] <Draken> 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[11:31] <andrew_> lemme run something by y'all: there's the adm group for users created as admins, and the users group (assumedly) for those who are not in adm.  however, there's no group that encompasses both (e.g. for allowing all users on a system access to a folder).  it seems like that should be something that happens automatically.  am i missing something or could i file a feature request for that?
[11:31] <yaaar> Draken: ok
[11:32] <polpak> ara, you downloaded something as root? or you just unpacked it as root?
[11:32] <Manifold> Done it, polpak
[11:32] <polpak> ara, either way.. bad practice
[11:32] <chris__> hi everyone... i finished installing ubuntu breezy on a hp pavilion with a rockwell chameleon combo card.  I have no sound, so i went out and found a sound driver from the HP site that says it is OS independent; however, it is an exe file and i have no clue how to install it...  (Newbie here)
[11:32] <yaaar> andrew_: i thought the users group *did* encompass the adm group?
[11:32] <Grackshrike> andrew_, I would think that if normal users can access it, than admins can also access it.
[11:32] <ibmnotebook> my atheros wlan card is recognizez but does not work with breezy... any ideas around what i can do?
[11:32] <polpak> Manifold, ok, now try ln -s '/path/to/some file with spaces/file.txt' ./file.txt
[11:33] <andrew_> yaaar, at the moment (new install from yesterday) i have no members in users at all; i created 5 for my family yesterday.
[11:33] <Draken> yaaar: , u got any idea ? :<
[11:33] <polpak> ara, if you are sure you want to remove it you'll need to open a terminal
[11:33] <polpak> ara, then cd ~Desktop
[11:33] <ara> polpak, when i downloaded it wasn't like this, i did a command on it and i can't remember what, now i just want to take that little lock symbol out
[11:33] <polpak> ara, then sudo rm -rf ./directory
[11:33] <gio> fd
[11:33] <yaaar> Draken: which linux-restricted-modules did you install? i can't find one for amd64 in synaptic
[11:33] <polpak> ara, oh
[11:34] <gio> fdgd
[11:34] <Grackshrike> Anyone have any ideas how I can resolve the window streaking issue (cause by dragging windows over other windows)? Does anyone else have this problem? It's possible that it's just because my EPIA is slow, but I don't think so. Plenty of games run fine, so I wouldn't think gnome would be this slow...
[11:34] <polpak> ara, you don't want to remove it?
[11:34] <ara> polpak not really
[11:34] <polpak> ara,  just open a terminal then and cd ~Desktop
[11:34] <Draken> yaaar: i think i just got the drivers, not the whole module i think
[11:34] <bulio> to install fluxbox on ubntu
[11:34] <bulio> anyone have a guide?
[11:34] <andrew_> yaaar, Grackshrike: is that not how your user accounts are?
[11:34] <polpak> ara, and sudo chown -R ara:ara ./directory
[11:34] <Pygi> !fluxbox
[11:34] <ubotu> hmm... fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[11:35] <polpak> ara, assuming your username in ubuntu is ara
[11:35] <polpak> Manifold, did that work?
[11:35] <Manifold> Phreow, nice.
[11:35] <bulio> thanks
[11:35] <Manifold> Thanks polpak
[11:35] <ara> polpak, ok thanks
[11:35] <tarmath> hi lads, Im wondering if anyone would know of a location where I could grab an extensive listing of the user groups in /etc/group and their meaning, I know most of them but not all of them and Im quite curious as to what the others might be doing
[11:35] <micahf> anyone here on copper.net?
[11:35] <Manifold> I'll need to remember that..
[11:35] <polpak> Manifold, yes.. symlinks are most convienent
[11:35] <ara> cd Desktop
[11:35] <Grackshrike> !groups
[11:35] <ubotu> Grackshrike: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:36] <micahf> cd ~/Desktop
[11:36] <Grackshrike> :|
[11:36] <bulio> should I really use flux if I have 533mhz cpu and 380mb ram?
[11:36] <tarmath> Ive been searching for this info and it's nowhere to be found... I cant believe such a thing is hard to find
[11:36] <andrew_> Grackshrike, could you check your user settings?
[11:36] <Grackshrike> andrew_, sure, what am I looking for?
[11:36] <polpak> ara, cd ~/Desktop will work no matter where you are. cd Directory will work if you are in your home directory already
[11:37] <andrew_> Grackshrike, a group that encompasses the members of users and adm, i guess.  or something else that's suitable.
[11:37] <yaaar> Draken: when you went through synaptic to install the 'linux-restricted-modules' package, there were several....do you know which one you got?
[11:37] <fizzle> anyone here have the link to set up the ubuntu repositories?
[11:37] <polpak> tarmath, take a look at system->administrator->users and groups
[11:37] <Draken> yaaar: , i dont think i got any resticted-modules ;/
[11:37] <Pygi> bulio: yesh
[11:37] <fizzle> ubotu, how to set up repository
[11:37] <ubotu> fizzle: Are you smoking crack?
[11:37] <Pygi> !fluxbox
[11:37] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, totally, a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[11:37] <Grackshrike> andrew_, "users" encompasses "all users," and I am in there, and I'm also in admin, so yeah...
[11:37] <yaaar> fizzle: just click the lifesaver bouy at the top of your screen and it's in the getting started section
[11:37] <bulio> what about xfce?
[11:37] <fizzle> ubotu tell fizzle how to set up repositories
[11:37] <Pygi> !repos
[11:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[11:37] <nalioth> !ubotu
[11:37] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:38] <fizzle> ty
[11:38] <andrew_> Grackshrike, hmm... how could i have messed that up?  i checked all available boxes when adding users.  did you do a fresh install with breezy?
[11:38] <ibmnotebook> ubuntu recognizes my wlan card (ahteros). but i do not have any signal :(
[11:38] <fizzle> where is sources.list?
[11:38] <tarmath> polpak: and what am I supposed to find there? theres no description at all...
[11:39] <polpak> fizzle, /etc/apt
[11:39] <Grackshrike> andrew_, nope. I installed hoary, then dist-upgraded. I didn't do anything for user setup, just what it asked me to do when I installed it...
[11:39] <Pygi> ubotu tell fizzle about sources
[11:39] <fizzle> ty
[11:39] <andrew_> Grackshrike, same here with breezy (just yesterday), with the exception of adding four other users for the rest of my family.
[11:39] <polpak> tarmath, if you edit your user and go to the user privileges tab
[11:40] <Pygi> !info anjuta
[11:40] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[11:40] <andrew_> i could manually add the users to the users group, but i'm afraid any later changes won't apply.
[11:40] <SillyZ> afternoon yall
[11:40] <Pygi> huh, still no 2.0 :/
[11:40] <chapium> i'm trying to install java-package.  However apt cannot find it and I do have multiverse setup.  Whats wrong here?
[11:40] <Pygi> !java
[11:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:40] <Pygi> !javadebs
[11:40] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[11:40] <yaaar> Draken: ok, so did you just install 'nvidia-glx' then?
[11:40] <Draken> yaaar:  ya
[11:41] <Pygi> andrew: hehe :)
[11:41] <polpak> !java-package
[11:41] <Grackshrike> andrew_, hmm, it looks to me like the default settings for "add user" should be fine.
[11:41] <ubotu> polpak: I don't know
[11:41] <SillyZ> q: there was a software package for linux that was released for doing anime style work, the company who made the software opensourced it, and illbe damned if I cant remember what the name of it was .... any ideas?
[11:41] <andrew_> Grackshrike, i'll try one now...
[11:41] <Grackshrike> andrew_, they just need to be in default group 'user'.
[11:41] <Pygi> ubotu tell polpak about javadebs
[11:41] <Draken> yaaar: but i just found linux-restricted-modules-amd64-generic
[11:41] <chapium> Pygi, the instructions do not work
[11:41] <yaaar> Draken: yeah install that.
[11:41] <andrew_> Grackshrike, yes, but what in the user GUI tool manages that assignment?
[11:41] <Pygi> andrew: not if only you would drop gaim :P
[11:41] <polpak> chapium, they worked fine for me
[11:41] <ibmnotebook> ubotu tell ibmnotebook about wlan
[11:41] <Pygi> chapium: well, then change them to working one :P
[11:42] <polpak> chapium, you are using the restricted formats wiki?
[11:42] <andrew_> Grackshrike, is it the "user profile" on the advanced tab?
[11:42] <chapium> polpak, yes
[11:42] <Grackshrike> andrew_, the 'advanced' tab in the user profile editor has that...
[11:42] <bulio> if I install fluxbox, do I still have the choice of running gnome at boot?
[11:42] <Draken> eish 21megs, on a 128mb :P
[11:42] <Grackshrike> yes andrew_
[11:42] <polpak> chapium, which part didn't work?
[11:42] <yaaar> Draken: i don't know whether that will change the kernel situation enough to require a reboot or not...
[11:42] <poningru> bulio: yes
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> How do I lock the screen on lid close on a laptop?
[11:42] <andrew_> Grackshrike, i set all to the administrator profile; shouldn't that still assign them to the users group?
[11:42] <chapium> polpak, it says to apt-get java-package, however apt cannot find it
[11:42] <poningru> tonyyarusso: it should do that automatically
[11:43] <bulio> installing flux
[11:43] <tkup> how do I edit the gnome menu? I tried installation alacarte through apt-get but it says that the package has been obsoleted. Does anyone know of an apt-get installable package that does this?
[11:43] <poningru> tonyyarusso: but I believe you can mess with that in screansavers advanced
[11:43] <yaaar> tonyyarusso: do you already have it set to lock the screen on screensaver/screenblank?
[11:43] <Pygi> chapium: huh, what are you talking about? ;/ ubotu tells you all you need to know...
[11:43] <Pygi> !patience
[11:43] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:43] <Grackshrike> andrew_, no, but being admins, they should have access to all user stuff.
[11:43] <rem_> apt-cache search java-package
[11:43] <rem_> java-package - utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> poningru and yaaar: Okay, I got it now.
[11:43] <andrew_> Grackshrike, unless you assign something to the users group.
[11:43] <yaaar> anybody have experience with sound blaster live cards? particularly w/ the spdif output?
[11:43] <poningru> tkup: applications->system tools->applications menu editor
[11:43] <rem_> you should have universe etc on in your source probably ..
[11:44] <andrew_> Grackshrike, you can sudo stuff to death, but that doesn't seem the point here.
[11:44] <LiGhTeNiN> can someone help me set up a connection with router under kubuntu?
[11:44] <chapium> rem_, yes, multi and uni are both there
[11:44] <Grackshrike> andrew_, I dunno then...
[11:44] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: sure whats up?
[11:44] <Pygi> LiGhtenin: what seems to be problem?
[11:44] <tkup> poningru, I don't have it on my menu :(
[11:44] <LiGhTeNiN> well, I cant get it working
[11:44] <poningru> tkup: look in synaptic for smeg iirc
[11:44] <andrew_> Grackshrike, i would think that the users group would be everyone and the adm would only be those who have the administrator profile.  does that make sense to you?
[11:44] <poningru> !info smeg
[11:44] <anders__> I think my sound device is not properly set, how can I reconfigure it or install a new driver maybe
[11:44] <Sturgeon> If i go to "system->network servers" and i connect to a windows machine in my network, i can see the files and stuff there. How can i see them in a shell?
[11:44] <ubotu> smeg: (simple menu editing), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.7.5-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 212 kB
[11:44] <eric_>  I need some help, the add prgrams icon is missing from my menu, I don't know where it went I need help restoring it
[11:44] <Sturgeon> Like, is that mounted in some directory?
[11:45] <eric_> "programs"
[11:45] <LiGhTeNiN> tried 'sudo dhclient eth0' but nothing
[11:45] <poningru> eric_: hold on
[11:45] <eric_> ok
[11:45] <Sturgeon> anyone?
[11:45] <LiGhTeNiN> I used some network conf tool under KDE but the net was still not working
[11:45] <tkup> poningru, I just searched smeg in synaptic. the search didn't turn out anything
[11:45] <Pygi> !patience
[11:45] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:46] <Sturgeon> Er, i meant Places->Network Servers
[11:46] <Pygi> tkup: repositories, set them up....
[11:46] <Grackshrike> andrew_, I dunno. I would think it's the other way around, that admin is user privaleges and then some, but I don't know much about user privalages and whatnot.
[11:46] <polpak> chapium, java-package is part of the multiverse repo
[11:46] <yaaar> anybody know if the alsa drivers for emu10k1 and ca0106 (sound blaster live) cards have good support for the spdif out?
[11:46] <poningru> eric_: you mean add applications?
[11:46] <eric_> yes that one
[11:46] <polpak> chapium, if apt can't find them then either you don't hae multiverse set up, or you need to apt-get update
[11:46] <ibmnotebook> ubotu tell ibmnotebook about how to get an answer to a question
[11:46] <chapium> polpak, perhaps there is some other problem then.  I see multiverse selected in synaptic and listed in sources.list
[11:46] <andrew_> Grackshrike, we're saying the same thing. ^_^ thanks for the help; i'll file a bug.
[11:46] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: well, I cant get my adsl connection working now that I have a router
[11:46] <chapium> polpak, i just ran update a moment ago
[11:47] <Grackshrike> andrew_, oh, :P ok...
[11:47] <polpak> chapium, can you pastebin your sources.list?
[11:47] <poningru> eric_: go to system tools->applications menu editor
[11:47] <tkup> Pygi, my sources.list has the standard repositories and one more. Which repositories should I add?
[11:47] <chapium> polpak, sure
[11:47] <polpak> chapium, and you've done a search in synaptic for java-package?
[11:47] <chapium> yep
[11:47] <poningru> eric_: on the left hand side select the top thing
[11:47] <Pygi> tkup: please paste sources.list in pastebin
[11:47] <Pygi> !pastebin
[11:47] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:47] <poningru> eric_: on the right hand side make sure there is a check mark for add applications
[11:47] <anders__> can somebody help me with my soundcard
[11:47] <pablosan> alguien habla espaol ?
[11:48] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: hold on just a sec
[11:48] <eric_> ok I'll try that, thanks so much
[11:48] <Pygi> anders: wait a sec
[11:48] <Pygi> !patience
[11:48] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:48] <tarmath> polpak: I have no such thing as user priviledges tab... im using kubuntu though
[11:48] <poningru> !es
[11:48] <pablosan> hay algun canal de ubuntu para los hispanos parlantes ?
[11:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:48] <polpak> polpak, oh.. it's probably different then.
[11:48] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: ok so what router is it?
[11:48] <polpak> tarmath, err sorry
[11:48] <tkup> Pygi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6468
[11:48] <polpak> tarmath, that was for you
[11:48] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: ericsson hn294dp
[11:49] <Sturgeon> if i go to places->network servers i can see my windows machine and its contents. Is there a way to see them in a shell?
[11:49] <Pygi> tkup: huh, hoary??
[11:49] <chapium> polpak, heres the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6469
[11:49] <tarmath> polpak: yes thanks Ive read... I was figuring the info would be the same / at the same spot but if the program isnt the same... it has to be somewhere darn
[11:49] <s0n1cm0nk3y> does anyone know where the grub config is in ubuntu?
[11:50] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, /boot/grub/menu.lst I think?
[11:50] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, /boot/grub/menu.lst, same as any grub installation. ^_^
[11:50] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: is that a dsl modem+Router?
[11:50] <tkup> Pygi, yes, I'm still on hoary
[11:50] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: correct
[11:50] <tkup> Pygi, why?
[11:50] <Pygi> tkup, huh, can't help then, sorry :/
[11:50] <Pygi> I don't have hoary, and don't know what's in the repos :/
[11:50] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ polpak, any chance one of you is running a dual boot?
[11:50] <polpak> chapium, you don't have multiverse enabled
[11:51] <tkup> Pygi, ah I get it...
[11:51] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: then couple of questions does it work with windows?
[11:51] <chapium> hmmm
[11:51] <polpak> chapium, that sources.list only has universe
[11:51] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, sure am.  i assume you mean with windows?
[11:51] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: the reason I ask is I want to make sure that you can connect to the internet
[11:51] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: Yes, I'm using it right now :>
[11:51] <SirKillalot> how do I reconfigure the x serveR?
[11:51] <poningru> ok do you know using what protocol its communicating with the router?
[11:51] <poningru> as in just normal ethernet?
[11:51] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ yeah, Im diagnosing a problem I have with dualbooting, it just shows the options I have and I was wondering if you one of u could post your grub config for me so I can compare
[11:51] <poningru> or something weird like pppoe or something
[11:51] <bulio> how do I install xfce?
[11:52] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, no, but I used to. I ditched windows for good a few months ago
[11:52] <Pygi> !xubuntu
[11:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:52] <poningru> !tell bulio about xfce
[11:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ using pastebin or w.e
[11:52] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: hmm I dont know
[11:52] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, sure; h/o
[11:52] <Pygi> huh, not twice :/
[11:52] <yaaar> hey guys, is there a hardware support database around someplace for ubuntu?
[11:52] <yaaar> more specifically one for sound cards?
[11:52] <bulio> I just wanna boot into xfce
[11:52] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: in windows how did you connect? just plug in and it worked?
[11:52] <bulio> thats it
[11:52] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: yes
[11:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> polpak, ah.............. yeah Im considering that right now, I switched my dad to ubuntu but I still keep a dual boot with gentoo on one of my boxes
[11:52] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, you're lucky i'm on my parents' computer; i don't have windows on my own. :-P
[11:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, thank the gods of luck
[11:53] <krystoff> please which is the best format to store mails ?? mailDir ? or something else ?
[11:53] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: try the all reset thing, because ubuntu should work as well
[11:53] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: all reset meaning
[11:53] <eric_> poningru: I tried what you said but I did not even see add application on the menu
[11:53] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, gods of luck... what an ironic phrase.  those two concepts seem opposite to me. :)
[11:53] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: turn off everything wait 15 mins and restart everything
[11:53] <SteveStevings> okay im having much trouble with this, ive got a .pcf font in my .fonts folder, but none of the programs see it, do i need to edit something in oreder to fix this??
[11:54] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: ubuntu should detect it on startup
[11:54] <tkup> does anyone know the path to the menu items in gnome so I can edit them manually?
[11:54] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: I have tried that, maybe I should make some configuration first?
[11:54] <AndrewX> do you need the 686-smp kernel to support hyperthreading, or does the reg. 686 one support it?
[11:54] <eric_> I think I'm missing a few things after I uninstalled kubuntu and xfce, how do I restore gnome back to default
[11:54] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, well sometimes oxymorons can be true ^^
[11:55] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: I'm actually using a Kubuntu live-cd to check it out
[11:55] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: are you connecting using usb?
[11:55] <LiGhTeNiN> no
[11:55] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, here's the whole damn thing (rather long!): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6470
[11:55] <polpak> AndrewX, I believe you need smp, but I could be mistaken
[11:56] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: I have an ethernet card
[11:56] <Dreamglider> http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=dvd+region&section=projects&Go.x=20&Go.y=14 < "Allows you to play from a player without a region set." will this allow me to play any dvd regions and thenge them as foten as i like on ubuntu ?
[11:56] <SteveStevings> okay im having much trouble with this, ive got a .pcf font in my .fonts folder, but none of the programs see it, do i need to edit something in oreder to fix this??
[11:56] <bakpao> hi i've installed gxmms through apt
[11:56] <tkup> ah I found it thanks
[11:56] <chapium> polpak, thanks.
[11:56] <bakpao> but now i don't know how to start it
[11:56] <bakpao> can anyone helpme
[11:56] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ its just as I feared, same as mine, damn I think windows is being gay again........I should just shell it
[11:56] <jackobill> help I can't get in my main user anymore... I get this as error : http://pastebin.com/486469
[11:56] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, what's the problem?
[11:57] <ompaul> !gay
[11:57] <tarmath> polpak: im sorry for asking so much, but if this info is not accessible to me since I dont have the program, is there any chance that it is available somewhere else?
[11:57] <poningru> SteveStevings: just logoff and logon
[11:57] <bakpao> i tried xmms from bash but bash told me command not found
[11:57] <ompaul> !tell s0n1cm0nk3y about gay
[11:57] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[11:57] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: its probably the livecd thats causing the problem
[11:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ when I try to boot windows, it just shows what I put down to make it boot, the options, and thats it, then it just keeps blinking the cursor and stays there doing nothing
[11:57] <polpak> chapium, np
[11:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y> though no worries, Im going to go full linux
[11:57] <andrew_> ompaul, that ubotu is great!
[11:57] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: so I wont be able to use net with the live-cd? :<
[11:58] <polpak> tarmath, np, but I don't know where else to see it
[11:58] <eric_> does anyone know how to restore the default settings for Ubuntu, I'm missing some programs I may have deleted by mistake
[11:58] <ompaul> andrew_, yes, this is known near and far
[11:58] <eric_> I know in windows there is a system file check
[11:58] <Snurf> Can someone help me in a PM? Its pretty long
[11:58] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, i'd search google on grub's site; i recall some troubleshooting steps there.
[11:58] <eric_> anything like that in ubunty
[11:59] <nalioth> eric_: in a console, type "sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop"
[11:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y> lol, onpaul, lol, did you put a bot on me?
[11:59] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: you should be able to
[11:59] <teprrr> hmm, anyone knows about xorg crashes in dapper?
[11:59] <hydroksyde> http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=43877969 - If I upgraded this to 128MB, would it run ubuntu alright???
[11:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ompaul, lol, ass, oh well, I meant it by it in the slang context, nothing more
[11:59] <eric_> ok I'll try that, thanks
[11:59] <m4rtin> Is there really no other choise to get my winmodem(HSF) to work, other thene buy a fu***** license?
[11:59] <teprrr> I can't start any gl app here.. :(
[11:59] <Franz> Hi people!
[11:59] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: I am assuming its something simple
[11:59] <foampeace> hi
[11:59] <fizzle> hey how do i install java
[11:59] <Franz> Happy new year to you all!
[11:59] <fizzle> ubotu,  tell fizzle about java
[12:00] <hydroksyde> m4rtin, buy a new modem