| Tm_T | allright, good night and keep up the good work :) -> | 12:03 |
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| Riddell | sealne: how's the wheelchair accessibility at strathclyde? | 12:21 |
| sealne | didn't i mention that? fully accessable | 12:24 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, added a build-dep and now it builds fine. Should I put myself in as the maintainer for kicks and giggles? | 12:25 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: can do | 12:25 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1354 | 12:52 |
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| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: it needs a .orig | 01:28 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: also remove CVS directories from the .orig | 01:28 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay, wasn't sure if I should so as to stick close to upstream | 01:32 |
| seth_k|lappy | will do now and reupload in a sec | 01:32 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: hang on, few other comments | 01:32 |
| Riddell | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1354 | 01:32 |
| seth_k|lappy | alright, thanks :) | 01:33 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, so you want a non-native package? .orig and diff? | 01:34 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: yes, non-native | 01:35 |
| Riddell | it might be native to him but it isn't to us | 01:35 |
| Riddell | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1354 another comment | 01:35 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: but you can keep the debian directory in the .orig or .diff whichever you perfer | 01:36 |
| Riddell | assuming the original source has a debian/ directory | 01:36 |
| seth_k|lappy | it does | 01:36 |
| seth_k|lappy | if I'm going to maintain it though, I'd just as soon break it out now | 01:36 |
| seth_k|lappy | so I'll re-do with .orig and diff and have it up in a sec | 01:36 |
| Riddell | groovy | 01:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | I think I'll go ahead and make it -0 as well; he's making a native package with Debian revision numbers, that's kinda an oxymoron | 01:37 |
| Riddell | yes, well noticed | 01:38 |
| Riddell | going out for a jog, will revu when I get back if it's uploaded | 01:41 |
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| raphink | happy new year seth_k|lappy | 01:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | you too, raphink :) | 01:56 |
| seth_k|lappy | do you have any resolutions ;) | 01:56 |
| raphink | hmm | 01:56 |
| raphink | find a job | 01:57 |
| raphink | :s | 01:57 |
| seth_k|lappy | hehe | 01:57 |
| raphink | and it's not that easy | 01:57 |
| raphink | to try to find what I could do | 01:57 |
| raphink | ;) | 01:57 |
| raphink | not that I have no skill | 01:57 |
| raphink | but I don't want to do any job | 01:57 |
| raphink | ;) | 01:57 |
| raphink | lately i'm thinking if I could work a linux teacher | 01:57 |
| raphink | like teaching the basic use of linux systems in companies | 01:57 |
| raphink | what kind of level/skills do you think that requires? | 01:58 |
| seth_k|lappy | better communication skills than Linux skills | 01:58 |
| raphink | mhm | 01:58 |
| raphink | well I've focused on pedagogy lately | 01:58 |
| raphink | and i'm aiming to create a new method to teach computer sciences | 01:58 |
| raphink | using what I have learned in pedagagy | 01:59 |
| raphink | pedagogy | 01:59 |
| raphink | that was not, as far as I know, used for computer sciences so far | 01:59 |
| raphink | so let's say I've got the communication and teaching skills | 01:59 |
| raphink | I'm more wondering about the linux skills ;) | 01:59 |
| raphink | what do you think seth_k|lappy ? | 02:01 |
| seth_k|lappy | I think that you don't need very advanced Linux skills to teach the basics found in a workplace | 02:02 |
| seth_k|lappy | word processing, faxing, printing, e-mail | 02:02 |
| raphink | I'm aiming to teach more | 02:02 |
| raphink | although that all depends what they want me to teach, of course | 02:03 |
| raphink | but I'd like to go as far as understanding the file system | 02:03 |
| raphink | and the relation between it and partitions | 02:03 |
| raphink | and stuff like that | 02:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | whew | 02:04 |
| raphink | and I want to work on a new way to teach these concepts | 02:04 |
| raphink | I've begun to work on it today | 02:04 |
| raphink | focusing on the filesystem and partitions so far | 02:05 |
| raphink | but I hope to go deeper into other stuff | 02:05 |
| raphink | network and so on | 02:05 |
| raphink | seth_k|lappy: i've done that today : http://r.pinson.free.fr/travail/systeme_fichier.jpg | 02:07 |
| raphink | it's just a mockup | 02:07 |
| raphink | and I'm not very happy with it | 02:07 |
| raphink | I got to the point that their are actually two concepts that are often confused | 02:07 |
| raphink | the hard drive, divised in partitions, which is a rather spacial concept | 02:08 |
| raphink | and the filesystem, on which partitions are mounted, which is a rather temporal concept, since you go from a dir to another to browse it | 02:08 |
| raphink | anyway | 02:12 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:12 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, all done when you get back | 02:47 |
| raphink | brave workers around :) | 02:50 |
| raphink | making dapper a more exciting perspective everyday :) | 02:50 |
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| Riddell | raphink: read the FHS to learn about the filesystem | 03:01 |
| raphink | FHS? | 03:01 |
| raphink | Riddell: actually I most want to teach it | 03:01 |
| Riddell | file heirarchy standard | 03:01 |
| raphink | find a way to teach the concept to noobs in companies | 03:02 |
| Riddell | mm, yes, it's not always easy | 03:02 |
| raphink | yes | 03:02 |
| raphink | that's why I want to apply my knowledge in pedagogy | 03:02 |
| raphink | and try to understand as best as possible the concept of filesystem | 03:03 |
| raphink | to focus on the concept | 03:03 |
| Riddell | it really annoyed me how they added /srv recently, you'd thing they would understand that 3 letter abbreviations are not a good idea | 03:03 |
| raphink | hehe | 03:03 |
| raphink | what is /srv for? | 03:03 |
| Riddell | server files, i.e. what apache or ftp server gives out | 03:04 |
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| raphink | hehe | 03:04 |
| raphink | I study an innovative pedagogy | 03:04 |
| raphink | which is yet almost only taught in French speaking countries | 03:05 |
| raphink | because it's hard to translate (if possible) | 03:05 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1357 1 issue still | 03:06 |
| seth_k|lappy | bah :) | 03:06 |
| === seth_k|lappy looks | ||
| Riddell | also I've no idea what the debiandirs file is for | 03:06 |
| seth_k|lappy | hum, Riddell, he had it under version 1 methinks | 03:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | not version 2 | 03:07 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: could you add the homepage to the description in debian/control while we're being perfectionists :) | 03:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | sure thing :) | 03:07 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: everything I've seen says version 2 | 03:07 |
| Riddell | I've never seen anything that uses GPL 1 | 03:07 |
| seth_k|lappy | alrighty | 03:07 |
| raphink | Riddell: could you advocate http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1310 again please? | 03:07 |
| Riddell | raphink: what's changed? | 03:07 |
| raphink | GPL-2 is from 1991 or so I think | 03:08 |
| raphink | so hardly any program is under -1 | 03:08 |
| raphink | not much Riddell | 03:08 |
| Riddell | yep, predates even Linux | 03:08 |
| raphink | http://revu.tauware.de/diff.py?upid1=1000&upid2=1310 | 03:08 |
| raphink | added a patch for the desktop file | 03:08 |
| raphink | and one of the pot file | 03:09 |
| raphink | removed files left after debuild && debuild -S -sa | 03:09 |
| raphink | and that's about it | 03:09 |
| Riddell | raphink: why the need for make -f Makefile.cvs ? | 03:09 |
| raphink | because i remove some files in clean: that need to be regenerated | 03:10 |
| seth_k|lappy | uploading again, Riddell, it'll take a couple minutes to process it | 03:10 |
| raphink | :s | 03:10 |
| raphink | since some files are modified by the build and have to be cleaned in clean: | 03:10 |
| Riddell | raphink: groovy, advocated | 03:10 |
| raphink | ok :) | 03:10 |
| raphink | ty | 03:10 |
| Riddell | wonder where pef has gone to, he was a good revu'er | 03:11 |
| raphink | vacation maybe ;) | 03:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | new upload is active on REVU, Riddell. 1 -> 2 && +Homepage | 03:11 |
| Riddell | it would be really good if we could reach a critical mass of kubuntu MOTU for revuing | 03:12 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: gah, nooo! | 03:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, ah? | 03:13 |
| Riddell | should be /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL not /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 | 03:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | ahhhh | 03:13 |
| Riddell | since it's GPL 2 or later | 03:13 |
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| raphink | Riddell: the more kubuntu members, the more kubuntu MOTUs I guess ;) | 03:13 |
| Riddell | and /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL is a symlink which will get updated when GPL 3 comes out | 03:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | ohhhh | 03:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | slomo had me change that in the kmobiletools package | 03:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | and I've always done it since :S | 03:13 |
| seth_k|lappy | sorry | 03:14 |
| Riddell | did he? | 03:14 |
| seth_k|lappy | once more... | 03:14 |
| raphink | Riddell: do you have a reference about this /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL thingy ? | 03:14 |
| raphink | cause we had a talk about it with slomo last time | 03:14 |
| raphink | and although it seems very logical to me | 03:14 |
| raphink | i haven't gotten any 'standard' reference to it | 03:14 |
| raphink | maybe in policy | 03:14 |
| Riddell | raphink: no I don't, maybe we should being it up at the next motu meeting | 03:14 |
| raphink | I had to change it in one of my packages, too | 03:14 |
| raphink | so it'd be good to check and have a reference to quote | 03:14 |
| === raphink goes to check in policy | ||
| seth_k|lappy | so should I change it, or not :) it's ready to upload again if so | 03:15 |
| raphink | try to call me if you don't see me back in 1 hour | 03:15 |
| raphink | that means i'm lost in policy | 03:15 |
| seth_k|lappy | haha | 03:15 |
| raphink | :s | 03:15 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: yeah upload, we can change it again if I'm wrong | 03:15 |
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| seth_k|lappy | uploading... | 03:16 |
| raphink | Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright and distribution license in the file /usr/share/doc/package/copyright. This file must neither be compressed nor be a symbolic link. | 03:17 |
| raphink | Policy 12.5 | 03:17 |
| raphink | that is interesting enough | 03:17 |
| raphink | Packages distributed under the UCB BSD license, the Artistic license, the GNU GPL, and the GNU LGPL should refer to the files /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD, /usr/share/common-licenses/Artistic, /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL, and /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL respectively, rather than quoting them in the copyright file. | 03:18 |
| seth_k|lappy | I think Riddell gets full marks on that one ;) | 03:19 |
| raphink | indeed | 03:19 |
| raphink | although i'm still searching for stuff on GPL-2 file | 03:19 |
| raphink | va falloir envoyer un mail RMS ;) | 03:21 |
| raphink | grml | 03:21 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, new upload processed | 03:22 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: advocated! | 03:22 |
| raphink | I'd just say that when searching on google | 03:22 |
| raphink | /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL gives about 136000 results | 03:22 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: please track down someone else to advocate and I'll upload | 03:22 |
| raphink | while /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 gives only about 10500 | 03:22 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, will do | 03:22 |
| Riddell | thanks | 03:22 |
| Riddell | I'm off to bed | 03:22 |
| seth_k|lappy | night | 03:22 |
| raphink | although almost no app is licensed under -1 | 03:22 |
| raphink | and policy doesn't talk about /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 | 03:23 |
| raphink | so +1 for Riddell | 03:23 |
| raphink | :) | 03:23 |
| raphink | although it'd be nice to get it to next MOTU meeting as Riddell said :) | 03:23 |
| Riddell | no MOTU meeting scheduled that I can see | 03:24 |
| raphink | yes :s | 03:24 |
| raphink | maybe we can add it to the agenda | 03:24 |
| raphink | so whenever there's a meeting it can be talked about | 03:24 |
| raphink | is there an agenda actually? | 03:24 |
| raphink | hehe | 03:25 |
| raphink | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting | 03:25 |
| raphink | I'll add it :) | 03:25 |
| raphink | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUMeeting | 03:26 |
| Riddell | groovy | 03:27 |
| raphink | :) | 03:27 |
| raphink | ok I'm off to bed :) | 03:29 |
| raphink | ++ | 03:29 |
| seth_k|lappy | night raphink|sleep | 03:30 |
| raphink|sleep | night seth_k|lappy | 03:30 |
| seth_k|lappy | btw Riddell, I did the manpage for the bonus points, do I have enough to get a pony yet? :P | 03:31 |
| Riddell | free horse to whoever packages polyester widget style first :) | 03:34 |
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| seth_k|lappy | Hobbsee, want a free pony? | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | seth_k|lappy: a free pony? could be fun - but my kangaroo would get jealous... | 04:42 |
| Tm_T | it's goat | 04:42 |
| seth_k|lappy | R iddell> free horse to whoever packages polyester widget style first :) | 04:42 |
| seth_k|lappy | the pony could be yours! | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | ah right! | 04:42 |
| Hobbsee | looks nice | 04:44 |
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| lamont | you need to install kdelibs first. | 04:28 |
| lamont | If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by | 04:28 |
| lamont | this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs. | 04:28 |
| lamont | The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the | 04:28 |
| lamont | _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt | 04:28 |
| lamont | configuration settings. | 04:28 |
| lamont | sigh | 04:28 |
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| Tm_T | ? | 04:38 |
| mornfall | ! | 04:48 |
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| Riddell | that'll be qt's buildkey again | 05:02 |
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| Riddell | ../../../kig/modes/../objects/../misc/object_hierarchy.h:31: instantiated from here | 05:05 |
| Riddell | /usr/lib/gcc/hppa-linux-gnu/4.0.3/../../../../include/c++/4.0.3/bits/basic_string.h:278: warning: cast from 'char*' to 'std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >::_Rep*' increases required alignment of target type | 05:05 |
| Tm_T | yrrrh, laggy ssh :( | 05:12 |
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| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, ping | 08:47 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: pong | 08:47 |
| seth_k|lappy | ah good, you're here | 08:47 |
| seth_k|lappy | elmo bounced kflickr back because of arch=i386 instead of =any, but I don't have ppc or 64 to test on. Can you test those for me before I change the field? | 08:48 |
| Riddell | doh | 08:49 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: unless there's a good reason for it not to work on an architecture just assume it does | 08:49 |
| Riddell | very few KDE programs have anything architecture specific in them | 08:49 |
| seth_k|lappy | alright | 08:49 |
| seth_k|lappy | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1365 | 08:58 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: uploading | 09:02 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, would you mind leaving my e-mail on it so I can get the katie output? | 09:03 |
| seth_k|lappy | I'd rather have elmo yell at me if it bounces again so I don't have to come hunt down what's wrong | 09:03 |
| Riddell | ok, although that always seems to go wrong when I do that | 09:04 |
| seth_k|lappy | thanks, I appreciate it | 09:05 |
| Riddell | uploaded | 09:05 |
| Riddell | sebas: what's the difference between "import qt" and "from qt import *" in python? | 09:09 |
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| seth_k|lappy | thanks very much, Riddell. seems to have gone through okay... and I appreciate being able to see the katie output | 09:15 |
| Riddell | I wish katie would output to the person who signed it as well as the changed-by | 09:17 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: new kmymoney2: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1350 | 09:21 |
| jpatrick | oh dear | 09:29 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: libaqbanking0-dev still won't install | 09:29 |
| jpatrick | okay that's another oh dear | 09:31 |
| Riddell | which is caused by some x thingy not working | 09:31 |
| jpatrick | libaqbanking0c2 ? | 09:32 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, I'll contact upstream with the updated package and the comment about using XDG menus after it hits the archive | 09:32 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: great | 09:33 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: it needs to do a libstdc++ transition but can't because of some X thingy not working | 09:33 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: another one? (you did one last month) | 09:34 |
| Riddell | same one as last month | 09:35 |
| Riddell | c2 -> c2a | 09:35 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: btw I've closed a few bugs in LP such as: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/yakuake/+bug/3209 | 09:35 |
| Riddell | xvfb-run is the problem | 09:35 |
| Riddell | hmm, seems to be working now, might give libaqbanking0-dev another shot | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | um jpatrick... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/yakuake/+bug/3209 isn't fixed. We need to either patch the default accesskey, or provide a readme | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | telling the reporter a workaround is *not* the same as fixing the bug | 09:37 |
| jpatrick | ah right | 09:37 |
| seth_k|lappy | plus, he can't open yaKuake to perform your workaround | 09:38 |
| seth_k|lappy | since F12 is already bound | 09:38 |
| jpatrick | He might be able to use DCOP | 09:39 |
| Riddell | it's a tricky one, not sure what the correct solution is for that | 09:39 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, why in the world is F12 right-click anyways? that's sort of a weird key to choose | 09:40 |
| seth_k|lappy | why not make it something like they're used to... Apple + Command + Shift + Ctrl + 3 + A | 09:41 |
| seth_k|lappy | :P | 09:41 |
| Riddell | I used right control and right meta key when I had a mac | 09:42 |
| seth_k|lappy | So should the bug really be re-filed about changing the default right-click key, instead of the default yaKuake key? :/ | 09:43 |
| Riddell | you could argue that but whatever key was chosen for that would probably clash with something, and whatever key yakuake has will probably clash with something too | 09:45 |
| sebas | Riddell: Namespacing, after import "qt', you have to refer to classes as "qt.QWidget()", after "from qt import *" you can do "QWidget()" | 09:47 |
| Riddell | aah, thanks sebas | 09:48 |
| sebas | Riddell: And in case you didn't see it, I fixed guidance on dapper. | 09:48 |
| Riddell | sebas: yeah, I uploaded that thanks | 09:48 |
| sebas | The problem wasn't pykde indeed. | 09:48 |
| Riddell | it was your sloppy coding :) | 09:48 |
| sebas | Did you upload current svn, or just with that patch added? | 09:48 |
| Riddell | just the patch | 09:48 |
| sebas | Simon's, actually :) | 09:48 |
| sebas | We could do another code drop into dapper before the release, I think current svn is in pretty good shape, but I'm planning more usability work. | 09:49 |
| === _Sime is working feverishly on dualhead in guidance. | ||
| sebas | And displayconfig is supposed to be release quality before dapper release also. | 09:49 |
| Riddell | so I should upload an svn snapshot nowish? | 09:51 |
| sebas | Yeah, you could do. | 09:51 |
| sebas | I think it shouldn't be broken :) | 09:51 |
| Riddell | and have displayconfig enabled? | 09:51 |
| _Sime | I've also been thinking about what we can do about hardware changes at boot time. (i.e. replacing gfx cards) | 09:51 |
| sebas | Wider testing would be good, so we can get feedback. | 09:51 |
| _Sime | displayconfig should be working ok in svn. | 09:52 |
| sebas | displayconfig is only betting better I think. | 09:52 |
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| Riddell | hello macgyver2 | 09:54 |
| Riddell | I wonder if guidance still counts as upstream or not | 09:55 |
| macgyver2 | hello | 09:55 |
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| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, elmo took it that time :) | 10:01 |
| sebas | Riddell: upstream where? | 10:02 |
| sebas | Or "upstream in what context"? | 10:03 |
| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: ooh, that was fast, groovy | 10:03 |
| Riddell | sebas: in the context of upstream version freeze | 10:03 |
| sebas | Riddell: It's only fixes ;-) | 10:06 |
| Riddell | that's one way to get changes in :) | 10:07 |
| sebas | Right :) | 10:08 |
| sebas | We *could* also use branches, but since we don't do bugs, only resolve them, it'd be useless anyway ;-) | 10:09 |
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| Riddell | seth_k|lappy: libaqbanking is good so I'll upload that and kmymoney | 10:39 |
| Riddell | also needed libofx rebuilt | 10:39 |
| Riddell | sorry, should have been to jp | 10:40 |
| Riddell | jpatrick | 10:40 |
| Riddell | who isn't here, ah well :)( | 10:41 |
| seth_k|lappy | hehe | 10:41 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kmymoney2/+bug/5194 << \sh said he was doing a merge, is that old info? | 10:41 |
| Riddell | he'll have to be quick since I'm about to upload this one that jpatrick merged | 10:42 |
| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, ah, 12/27, never mind | 10:42 |
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| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, quick question if you're there | 11:10 |
| Riddell | yo | 11:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | do I call polyester "kde-style-polyester", or just "polyester" | 11:11 |
| Riddell | kde-style-polyester | 11:11 |
| Riddell | else it's pollutin the namespace too much, and inconsistent with other styles | 11:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | okay... because lipstik is called "lipstik", but appears as "kde-style-lipstik" | 11:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | so wasn't sure if there was some voodoo going on there | 11:11 |
| Riddell | oh you can keep the source package as polyester if you want, or change it however you prefer | 11:11 |
| seth_k|lappy | what's canonical? | 11:12 |
| Riddell | it's the company that sponsors ubuntu | 11:12 |
| seth_k|lappy | NOOOOO | 11:12 |
| seth_k|lappy | i mean | 11:12 |
| Riddell | :) | 11:12 |
| seth_k|lappy | what is the canonical way | 11:12 |
| seth_k|lappy | I should've realized how dumb that sounded | 11:12 |
| seth_k|lappy | :P | 11:12 |
| Riddell | I don't know, look at how existing ones do it and see what's most popular | 11:12 |
| seth_k|lappy | alright | 11:12 |
| Riddell | there was some discussions about how to name window styles recently, I don't think they're done consistently | 11:13 |
| mornfall | wibble | 11:15 |
| Riddell | mornfall: hmm? | 11:15 |
| mornfall | just wibble | 11:15 |
| Riddell | hugs | 11:16 |
| mornfall | pong without ping | 11:16 |
| mornfall | what's up | 11:16 |
| mornfall | hmm, a bit late but still: happy new year :-) | 11:16 |
| Riddell | happy new year :) | 11:18 |
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| seth_k|lappy | Riddell, lipstik has source "lipstik" and binary "kde-style-lipstik"; I do it that way, seems safe | 11:21 |
| Riddell | ok | 11:22 |
| jjesse | just a random fyi but here in michigan in the united states it is thundering and lightning.... first thunderstorm i've ever known in mi in jan | 11:22 |
| Riddell | _Sime: I get an error on displayconfirg when running it through kcmshell | 11:22 |
| Riddell | File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ScanPCI.py", line 135, in _resolveDevicesWithLdetect | 11:22 |
| Riddell | fhandle = open(os.path.join(self.data_file_dir,"pcitable"),"r") | 11:22 |
| Riddell | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'pcitable' | 11:22 |
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| _Sime | Riddell: is pcitable installed in /usr/share/apps/guidance? | 11:24 |
| _Sime | Riddell: does it work outside kcmshell? | 11:24 |
| Riddell | yes and yes | 11:25 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: what's the procedure, again, for building packs simply on a different arch? Could get someone to just use their ppc to get 3.5 packs | 11:26 |
| _Sime | Riddell: I'll add that bug to my mental TODO list. Looks like it is broken in kcmshell... | 11:27 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: amu made some 3.5 packages I think | 11:27 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: oh? They gonna go in the repo soon? | 11:28 |
| apokryphos | (what was the procedure (if you don't mind), just for reference) | 11:29 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: need to ask amu | 11:29 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: which procedure? | 11:29 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: for building packs simply on a different arch. In deboostrap chroot you just need to get the source, and remove the debian/ is it? | 11:30 |
| apokryphos | and end up with debuild some time at the end 8) | 11:30 |
| Riddell | put the deb-src in source.list | 11:30 |
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| Riddell | apt-get source foo; cd foo-<tab>; debuild | 11:30 |
| apokryphos | I remember it being short; thanks. | 11:30 |
| Riddell | jjesse: I never knew you were in the US | 11:31 |
| Riddell | wonder why not | 11:31 |
| === mornfall frowns | ||
| mornfall | Riddell: don't you know if sources.list.d is going to be used by default on dapper? | 11:31 |
| mornfall | or someone | 11:32 |
| jjesse | Riddell: yup all my life :) | 11:32 |
| Riddell | mornfall: that would mean debian-installer writing to sources.list.d I presume? | 11:33 |
| Riddell | or (k)ubuntu-express | 11:33 |
| mornfall | Riddell: no idea | 11:34 |
| Riddell | or is it something that apt needs to have enabled? | 11:35 |
| mornfall | nah, it should just work out of the box | 11:35 |
| mornfall | question is, what will the default config be like | 11:35 |
| mornfall | last thing i want to do is support sources.list.d | 11:35 |
| Riddell | I'll ask kamion | 11:36 |
| mornfall | i am completely clueless as how a gui for editing such a beast should look like | 11:37 |
| Riddell | mornfall: seen the synaptic sources editor? | 11:37 |
| Riddell | it's a bit abstracted from sources.list | 11:38 |
| mornfall | which synaptic version? | 11:38 |
| Riddell | mornfall: breezy | 11:40 |
| Riddell | _Sime: fix in | 11:51 |
| jjesse | Riddell: tomorrow when i get to work and have a better connection i'll upload more changes to the release notes | 11:52 |
| Riddell | jjesse: awooga | 11:52 |
| Riddell | jjesse: you should be able to add that we have a new displayconfig X setup module in system settings | 11:53 |
| jjesse | Riddell: i went through your suggestions that we talked about before i left on christmas break | 11:53 |
| jjesse | and have made them | 11:54 |
| Riddell | cool | 11:54 |
| Riddell | mornfall.. | 12:04 |
| Riddell | 23:03 < Kamion> Riddell: just sources.list unless somebody gives me a good reason otherwise beyond "it's there" :-) | 12:04 |
| Riddell | 23:03 < Kamion> I prefer to leave sources.list.d for other packages and admin customisation | 12:04 |
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