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Stormx3I wonder what 6.10 will be called...12:05
Stormx3I want Perky Penguin =)12:05
xwolf-what was Hoary?12:05
Stormx366% of kubuntu-desktop downloaded.12:05
ggilbertHedgehog12:05
xwolf-oh.12:05
MilkteaI wan't Perky Pandaren12:05
Milkteawant*12:05
Stormx3Dapper Drake is a crap name >_<12:06
ggilberthehe. I like it12:06
Stormx3I don't12:06
MilkteaI would rather have Energizing Enchilada12:06
Stormx370%... come onnn baby12:06
MilkteaI'm upgrading to KDE 3.5 atm12:06
Milktea><12:06
Stormx3kinda a mouthfull =)12:06
ggilbertWhat's wrong with dapper drake?12:07
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MilkteaWas there an aardvark yet?12:07
Stormx3It just sounds kinda >,< bad12:07
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Stormx3But hmm... How could I find out my motherboard model?12:08
Stormx3My internet is going insane... hmm.12:08
naliothStormx3: if you're lucky, in a konsole type "sudo lshw" if not, you'll have to open 'er up and go exploring12:08
Stormx3o.O12:09
Stormx3lots of info12:09
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Milktea:<12:10
Milktea       physical id: 012:10
Milkteawhat does that mean?12:10
Milkteain lshw12:10
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naliothMilktea: means what it says.12:10
Stormx3http://pastebin.ca/35466 Thats the relivent Motherboard info12:10
Milkteaok12:11
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cortez_is there a way to remove that (stupid) image in the logout/shutdown dialogue?12:11
MilkteaFor some reason, firefox has been adding file extensions on top of downloaded files12:11
Milktealike demo.mpg.mpg12:11
Stormx391% of kubuntu-desktop downloaded =)12:11
Stormx3Meh. Motherboard was made by a taiwan company. Yay12:13
tarmathright now there doesnt seem to be any way to know what are the /etc/group groups meaning using kubuntu, from ubuntu however the program doing the user management shows what each group actually does.12:13
tarmathive been looking for documentation on this as I do not know what every group means but there doesnt seem to have any12:14
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stefanotarmath: no success with the german stuff?12:16
stefanothey are kinda a standard-lookup-site for german linux users12:16
tarmathits not there12:17
Stormx3Installing kubuntu now =)12:17
stefanomh. too bad12:17
stefanohave fun Stormx312:17
Stormx3All I can find are french manuals on the company's website. uhg12:18
MilkteaBabelfish?12:19
Stormx3pfft12:19
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karvrcan anyone see this typing???12:20
naliothkarvr: no we can not12:20
karvrlol k thx12:20
Stormx3;-) Always worth a shot nalioth12:21
Stormx3Yay kubuntu is installed12:22
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Stormx3Heres the memory support on my motherboard:   3 184-pin DDR DIMM sockets - Supports PC1600 DDR or PC2100 DDR SDRAM - Supports up to 3GB DRAM (Max) - Supports only 2.5V DDR SDRAM - Supports 64bit ECC type DRAM integrity mode12:27
BlissexStormx3: thats pretty good.12:27
BlissexStormx3: AMD 760 chipset base mobo probably.12:27
troththis sucks i cant find a wireless card that is linux compatible12:28
MilkteaHow do I run a .run file?12:28
Chousukeuse sh12:29
Chousukesh file.run12:29
Stormx3Blissex: I have about 55 at the moment, and I want some RAM thats worthwhile. I can borrow a little more from my rents i'd imagine. What do you think I should buy?12:29
Milkteathanks12:29
BlissexStormx3: more info please, what you got already etc.12:29
BlissexStormx3: and what your system looks like in  general. With 55 you can get quite a bit of RAM BTW12:30
Stormx3Blissex: I have 256mb of ram, I have no idea what type, though. Should I find out?12:30
BlissexStormx3: it can only be of the type you listed above.12:30
BlissexStormx3: so it is already not a problem.12:30
MilkteaHow would I run a .bin file? The same way?12:30
BlissexStormx3: what does the rest of your system look like?12:30
Stormx3os[Linux 2.6.12-10-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ @ 1.40GHz]  mem[Physical : 250MB, 31.5% free]  disk[Total : 110.84GB, 14.50% Free]  video[10de:002d]  sound[ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI] 12:30
Stormx3its not getting the video card properly >_<12:31
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Lord_Athurhi12:31
MilkteaHow would I run a .bin file? The same way?12:32
Drakenbin are run like so12:32
Drakensh moocow.bin12:32
Stormx3Blissex: What are your thoughts?12:32
Milkteathanks12:32
trothbefore i install windows is there any wireless cards that work with kubuntu?12:33
MilkteaArgh12:34
MilkteaExtraction failed.12:34
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Milktea:<12:34
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Stormx2Milktea: What are you trying to run?12:34
BlissexStormx3: well, a bit of extra memory would help indeed.12:34
MilkteaATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.20.812:34
BlissexStormx3: I have got a similar system with 512Mb and it is a lot better than with 256MB.12:34
Stormx2Blissex: Right. So what RAM should I get, and how much do you think it would cost?12:35
BlissexStormx3: all you need is to get another stick, say 512MB DDR 2100 RAM, and you are sorted, and that would cost around 30-3512:35
Stormx2Wow thats cheap!12:35
apokryphossounds expensive; we get them here for 20 or so12:36
Stormx2So I would have 768mb ram?12:36
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Stormx2apokryphos: Heh =) What did you think he said12:36
MilkteaStormx2: :<?12:37
MilkteaATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.20.812:37
apokryphosabout usb keys; skim reading can be lethal.12:37
Stormx2What does this "2100" number mean? Im seeing things like PC3200, etc.12:38
BlissexStormx2: are you thinking of upgrading the motherboard soon?12:38
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BlissexStormx2: PC2100 is a lower speed grade than PC3200.12:38
Stormx2Blissex: How much would that cost?12:38
BlissexStormx2: now a higher speed grade is compatible with a lower speed mobo, but not viceversa.12:39
BlissexStormx2: so perhaps you should just get a PC3200 instead of PC2100, so you don't throw it away when you upgrade the mobo.12:39
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BlissexStormx2: BTW, your mobo is pretty decent as it is. It would make only sense to upgrade it when you can afford a new CPU too.12:40
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fatejudgerwhat is up with Konqueror lately?12:40
fatejudgerit seems like it crashes all the time now for no reason whatsoever12:40
namailabas12:40
Blissexfatejudger: same here with 3.512:41
BlissexStormx2: have a look here: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=14684611192&action=&product_uid=4944712:42
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Stormx2Blissex: All the reviewers are saying that doesn't run at 400mhz, but I'm guessing that doesn't apply to me as I'm at 1.4ghz?12:46
Drakenerr, can someone help me get to higher resolutions ?12:46
Drakeni cant get over 1024x76812:46
BlissexStormx2: the CPU freq and the RAM freq are completely different things.12:47
Stormx2!xorg12:48
ubotuwell, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:48
Stormx2^^ Draken ^^12:48
Drakenya12:48
Drakenbut wat do i set12:48
Stormx2Blissex: okay then.12:48
Drakenso i can get higher12:48
BlissexStormx2: this is the same but much better brand: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?product_uid=4812212:48
BlissexDraken: usually the top horiz sync is too low if you can't get higher.12:49
Stormx2Draken: Put that command into terminal12:49
Stormx2Draken: Keep hitting enter till you get to the resolutions bit12:49
Stormx2then press space on all the resolutions you know your monitor can support12:49
Drakenahh thanks12:50
fatejudgerBlissex: it's silly that they haven't come out with a fix12:51
fatejudgerBlissex: I thought it was flash or kaffeine or something12:51
fatejudgerBlissex: but it isn't12:51
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Blissexfatejudger: eventually... Moreover it can be a system dependent issue.12:52
rootcool ta12:52
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Drakendoes anyone know a good download manager12:54
Drakenlike getright12:54
seth_k|lappyKget?12:58
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seth_k|lappyKGET is a a download manager similar to GetRight or Go!zilla. It keeps all your downloads in one dialog and you can add and remove transfers. Transfers can be paused, resumed, queued or scheduled.12:59
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seth_k|lappy^ from the package info12:59
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Stormx2how do I remove kubuntu?01:04
Stormx2;-)01:04
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MilkteaRemove, as in delete the partition01:05
Milkteaor Remove, as in remove KDE01:05
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Stormx2the kde package isn't installed >.<01:06
Stormx2I have kubuntu-desktop installed, and that installed a whole host of other packages01:06
MilkteaI'm guessing you manually uninstall them?01:07
Milktea:<01:08
ggilbertremove libqt3-mt and some miscellaneous packages01:08
Lord_Athurhi there01:10
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_ubuntusuppitie sup01:11
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Lord_Athurhi there01:16
Milkteammk01:18
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TheSpawnholz01:28
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Athurhey01:34
AthurI've got a problem mountting a file : initrd01:35
AthurI've copied the problem here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/647101:35
Athurcan anybody help me?01:35
TheSpawnparece que nadie anda por aca01:36
AthurTheSpawn,01:36
Athureste canal es espaol o ingls?01:37
Athuris the channel spanish or English??01:37
Athurno cacho01:37
apokryphos!es01:37
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:37
neoncodeMy amarok won't work... When I launch it, it shows it's splash screen, then the splash screen goes and then the amaroK icon shows up in the system tray for about a second then it closes...01:38
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Athurthen01:38
Athurhave anydoby seen my problem?01:38
apokryphosneoncode: what version, and any error messages?01:38
Tm_Tneoncode: run it from konsole and look at the output01:39
Tm_Tand yes, tell the version01:39
TheSpawnah ok, nos vamos a kubuntu-es entonces :D01:39
Athurpesquen po01:39
Athur!!01:39
kinfoi don't understand.01:39
ubotu??01:39
kinfoi don't understand.01:39
neoncodeapokryphos: Latest. .7 something I think. I carn't rember. and no errors when I run it from KDE but in konsole it gives an error. I'll use adept to get the version and I'll pastebin the konsole output01:39
nekoI'm running 32bit kubuntu on a Turion64 laptop, and have noticed that the clock's running at double speed01:40
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nekoanyone know what that's about?01:40
neoncodeoutput@ http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/48658401:40
neoncodeversion is: 1.3.701:41
neoncodeIt's a repo version. not a compiled one.01:41
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apokryphosneoncode: curious. Was it working fine before?01:41
neoncodeapokryphos: Well I think it crashed after my update to KDE 3.5 but. I recently make useraccounts on this same machene for a couple of my friends and amarok worked fine on those. and I've tryed deleteing "/home/neoncode/.kde/apps/amarok" no luck...01:43
apokryphosneoncode: try cd ~/.kde/share/config && mv amarokrc amarokrc_old01:43
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Tm_Thmm, maybe removing all amarok settings might help...01:43
Tm_Tapokryphos: damn, faster01:43
apokryphos8)01:44
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neoncodeOut of intrest... what does "&&" do anyway?01:44
Tm_Tneoncode: do after success01:44
Tm_T1 && 2 = run 1 and if ti goes ok, then run 201:44
neoncodeOoooo... usefull...01:45
Tm_Tif not, 2 won't be run at all01:45
Tm_Tyes it is01:45
Tm_TI use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade01:45
Tm_Tfor example01:45
neoncodeok I did that.01:45
neoncoderight try to run amarok again right?01:45
Tm_Tneoncode: now run amarok again01:45
apokryphosyup01:45
Tm_Tyes01:45
Tm_T:)01:45
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Tm_Tok, off again, ping if you need me ->01:46
neoncodeok... this time it showed the amarok window... then crashed.... that's *some* progress...01:46
apokryphosneoncode: konsole give the same output?01:46
neoncodeyup01:46
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neoncodeoh and it crashes in the new place consistantly now....01:47
apokryphosvery weird01:47
Steven_MHi, I need help from an aptitude user please.01:47
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apokryphosneoncode: standard procedure if it doesn't work with a new share/apps/amarok/ directory and a new rc is to make a bugreport. I'm pretty stumped, tbh.01:49
apokryphosneoncode: maybe wake up Tm_T again though to see if he has any other ideas 8)01:50
neoncodeHow does one wake him/her up?01:50
neoncodeOh sorry you said he there...01:50
apokryphos!lart Tm_T01:50
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neoncodeHey they braught lart back!01:50
apokryphosyup01:51
neoncodeyay01:51
Tm_Tnoooooo01:51
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neoncodeHey... I just looked in ~/.kde/share/config/ and amarok did not make a new amarokrc file....01:52
Tm_Thmm01:52
Tm_Thow about apt-get install --reinstall amarok01:53
apokryphosthat's interesting01:53
neoncodeok... reinstall01:53
Tm_Tor first purge it01:53
neoncodeoh one more thing01:53
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Tm_Tapokryphos: life is interesting01:53
neoncodewhen I run amarok from konsole and it prints it's error it stalls. I don't get back to my command prompt...01:54
apokryphosyup, apps do that when they don't crash properly :P01:54
apokryphosKCrash lags behind!01:54
neoncodeThere's a "proper" way to crash?01:54
sampancan you file a bug report for an improper crash too?01:54
apokryphosneoncode: yes, using KCrash ;-)01:54
neoncodelol01:54
neoncodeHow do I file a bug report then?01:55
Tm_Tsampan: sure, crash is crash01:55
apokryphosneoncode: do the purge and then reinstall first01:55
neoncode"purge"?01:55
apokryphossampan: yes, but you'll be subject to public flogging01:55
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apokryphosneoncode: it's an apt-get option01:55
Tm_Tapt-get remove --purge amarok01:55
Tm_Tor do I remember wrong01:55
apokryphosnope, correct01:55
neoncodeIt just finished apt-get --reinstall...01:55
sampanpffffffft public flogging!  as long as the bugs get fixed it's all worth it!01:56
neoncodeand amarok.... does not work... ok purge this time...01:56
Tm_Tsampan: yes, if it's bug and not just borked ...01:56
neoncodeWhat does purge *do* exacly?01:56
ggilbertIt removes config files01:56
Tm_Tneoncode: remove entirely, including configs01:56
sampantm_t  there's a difference?  you computer guys and your specialized vocabulary01:57
sampan;)01:57
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Tm_Tsampan: you know, if it's bug, it's in code, if it's just borked, then it's your binary...01:57
neoncodeso it just nukes amarok01:57
neoncodesweet..01:57
Tm_Tand sour01:57
Tm_T...ok =)01:57
Tm_Ttea <301:57
neoncodetea!01:58
apokryphosdang, I miss a nice Chinese sweet n' sour01:58
Tm_T!tea01:58
ubotuTm_T: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:58
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apokryphossounds like time for .......KTeaTime01:58
sampantm_t  ahhh, gotcha ... it's all becoming clear ;x01:58
Tm_Tubotu: sure it is01:58
ubotuTm_T: Are you smoking crack?01:58
ggilbertIn the case of mysql, I believe purge also removes any databases you had configured01:58
Tm_Tubotu: ssshhh01:58
ubotuNo idea, Tm_T01:58
apokryphosubotu: kteatime is my favourite application01:58
ubotuapokryphos: okay01:58
neoncodeso after purge just a standard apt-get install amarok right?01:58
apokryphosyup01:58
Tm_Tneoncode: yes01:58
neoncodegod bless a fast internet connection and compression :)01:59
Tm_Thmmm, roulette...01:59
neoncodeok installed... it still crashes..02:00
apokryphosbug report it is02:00
neoncode!lart amarok02:00
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Tm_Tneoncode: #amarok then, at first02:00
apokryphosI love ubotu's elegance02:00
neoncodeAnd how do I file this bug report then?02:00
apokryphosTm_T: I'd have recommended that, except I've had 0 help on my last 50 questions there, probably02:01
apokryphosok, bit of an exaggeration -- I'd say 302:01
neoncodeTm_T: Should I go and complain/rant/beg for help in #amarok?02:01
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SteilamaroK isn't finding my ipod, is there anything I can do to fix this?02:06
apokryphosSteil: pressing "connect" doesn't bring it up?02:07
apokryphosmake sure it's mounted under /media/ipod or /mnt/ipod02:07
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SteilIt's mounted under /media/ipod02:08
SteilamaroK just gives me "Could not find device, please mount it and try again"02:09
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Steven_MIs it  possible to set apt-get to use a different source list other than /etc/apt/sources.list for one particular user?02:16
apokryphosnope02:16
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swimanyone know of an install script or debs for e17?02:29
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Patryanybody can help with a gcc error? whenever I try to ./configure I get:02:33
Patryconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH02:33
PatrySee `config.log' for more details.02:33
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caglarhow can I change my standard mail client and web browser in KDE?02:39
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`NomadHi all, I wish you all a happy new year, and thanks for all the help! :)02:41
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KnowerrorsAnyone know how to get the Kubuntu Human cursor them to be used in programs like Firefox as well?02:53
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seth_k|lappyKnowerrors, yeah... lemme find it on the forums for you02:54
seth_k|lappyKnowerrors, kdesu kate /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme02:55
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seth_k|lappyand add these two lines:02:55
seth_k|lappy [Icon Theme] 02:55
seth_k|lappyInherits=kubuntu02:55
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Knowerrorsthx seth_k|lappy :)02:56
Knowerrorsyou saved me some precious bandwith, my 28.8 connection is slower than usual due to wet phone lines02:56
swimanyone know of an install script or debs for e17?03:01
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seth_k|lappyswim, there's a guide on the forums. I'll find that for you03:04
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seth_k|lappyswim, from CVS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9719903:05
seth_k|lappyswim, latest stable from .deb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7915503:06
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douglasHoly shit, I just downloaded firefox 1.5 from get firefox, went to homestarrunner and it said I need the flash plugin, I told it to install it and it actually worked03:12
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sophie_anyone know when firefoxxy 1.5 is going to be part of the repo03:14
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tb77anyone installed tellico in breezy with kde 3.5?03:16
Knowerrors!trash03:17
ubotuKnowerrors: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:17
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Knowerrorsno ubotu, I smoke some laced product03:17
KnowerrorsAnyone know how to make the trash can appear on the desktop?03:18
apokryphosKnowerrors: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#showtrash03:19
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Knowerrorsthx apokryphos03:21
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DaSkreechSo let me get this straight03:24
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DaSkreech*buntu comes in a packed series?03:24
DaSkreechOf which Dapper is the last>03:24
DaSkreech?03:24
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RiddellDaSkreech: ubuntu and kubuntu are released every 6 months, they have version numbers and code names, dapper is the code name for 6.04 which will be released in april03:26
DaSkreechRiddell: Understood03:26
DaSkreechRiddell: sabdfl mentioned something about dapper being the last in a series though03:27
Riddelloh, that's just artwork for ubuntu stuff03:27
DaSkreechThat it was possible that the brown would not return after Dapper since it would be a new series03:27
DaSkreechSo it's only artwork stuff that counts as03:27
DaSkreechinterface essentially?03:28
Riddellyes03:28
ecarrollWithout moving to dopper.03:28
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ecarrollerr03:28
DaSkreechdoper?03:28
DaSkreech:)03:28
kkathmanlol03:28
ecarrollIs there an archive that has postgres 8.1, without moving to dopper.03:28
DaSkreechRiddell: Ok Cool that clears up a lot :)03:28
DaSkreechThose aren't even close to each other03:29
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Knowerrorsanybody notice flashplugin-nonfree seeming to not work as well as flashplayer-mozilla?03:30
DaSkreechSo what would it take to get an unstable product into Universe?03:30
psykwhat if i want to play Windows games on kubuntu?03:30
DaSkreechpsyk: cedega03:31
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Knowerrorsapokryphos: that didn't work :(03:38
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DaSkreechIs Kubuntu going to hide the admin options from the users who are sudo-less?03:47
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KnowerrorsCan anyone help with flashplugin-nonfree, it installs but doesn't show up in firefox?04:06
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xwolf-Knowerrors macromedia has a step-by-step tutorial on how to install it04:11
xwolf-macromedia.com04:12
xwolf-afk now04:12
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psykhow do i connect to EFnet?04:14
psyknevermind04:16
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RichardChey everybody04:48
Hobbseehi RichardC04:48
kkathmanhi RichardC04:48
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RichardCim having a hard time mounting an extra ext2 partition04:49
douglasI just used gtk-theme-switch to change my gtk1 font and style, and it previewed correctly, but when I opened an application that uses gtk1 (openrpg-client) it didn't use my new font and size. How do I make programs adopt the new fonts?04:49
RichardCi use it, with an ext2 driver for windows, to share files between windows and linux04:49
Hobbsee!mount04:50
uboturumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f04:50
RichardCbut i cant seem to get linux to allow me to write to the partition unless im root04:50
Hobbseewhat's the line in your /etc/fstab that relates to the new partition?04:50
DaSkreechOh04:51
DaSkreechSince we are on the subject04:51
DaSkreechWhy would Kubuntu deny me access to a NTFS drive?04:51
HobbseeDaSkreech: as root, or at all?04:51
Hobbseeuse a umask=000, and make sure you have "ro" in there04:52
DaSkreechI can sudo and ls it04:52
DaSkreechit is ro04:52
DaSkreechIt's locked though04:52
DaSkreechI think that the installer threw up a lost linked file error04:52
useratheianyone ever compile a nvidia driver for xorg ??04:53
HobbseeDaSkreech: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0 <-- modify that to suit your system04:53
DaSkreechIs there some scan I can run to see if there is a dirty file system04:53
Hobbseebut that works, so that the user can view, but not write...04:53
HobbseeDaSkreech: got no idea, but doesnt it check every 30 mounts anyway?04:58
RichardCdoes it matter what order i put the fstab entries in?04:58
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DaSkreechPlus I Hardly shut down04:59
HobbseeRichardC: no, dont think so04:59
Hobbseejust dont stick one place to mount to two locations, or similar05:00
HobbseeDaSkreech: ah, that's true05:00
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DelvienAnyone have an idea where to get the firefox and Thunderbird  icons in http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/26448-1.jpg ??05:06
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HobbseeDelvien: it wouldnt be in the nuveola set would it?  seeing as that's what the screenshot's about?05:13
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RichardCanyone know how to add new locations to the kde system menu?05:14
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KnowerrorsCan anyone help with the flashplugin-nonfree?  Synaptic says its installed, but plugins files don't show up where they say theyre installed05:18
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DaSkreechSweeeeeeeeeeeeeet05:24
DaSkreechhttp://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/171505:24
xtacocorexKnowerrors: in konqueror, go to your /home/<user>/Desktop, right click on trash.desktop and then go to open, use kate to edit the file, the line that says hidden=true, change to false05:24
xtacocorexKnowerrors: sorry, got messed up while being away05:25
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HobbseeDaSkreech: looks very cool!05:35
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torkelI installed kubuntu the other day here, been using linux for several years (1996)05:38
torkelI must say im impressed!05:38
torkelkeep up the good work!05:38
darmouHow come amerok crashes on startup?05:43
darmouwith breezy badger?05:43
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Hobbseedarmou: which kde version?05:44
darmouSorry Hobbsee how do I find out teh version I'm using I'm new to kde05:45
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Knowerrorshmm, Adobe aquired Macromedia it seems, or merged05:45
Hobbseedarmou: in a konsole, konversation --version05:47
darmouKDE: 3.4.305:47
darmouthanks05:47
Hobbseehmmm05:48
darmouwhen I launch amarok from konsole I get GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 2855404145 bytes05:49
darmoudon't know if that help05:49
Hobbseeyou might want to ask this in #amarok if you get no answer here - i dont know sorry05:50
darmouthanks anyway05:50
m_tadeuhas anyone tryed x11r7?05:52
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freelovehow do i change the look of VLC media player?06:04
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RichardChow do i change to default resolution of the kde login screen?06:31
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the_padawanhello all06:41
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Hobbseehi the_padawan06:44
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the_padawanhave you any experience with 64 bit kubuntu?06:44
atlantisim trying to install 64 bit kubuntu, and i get to a point, after you take out the CD it will give me this message.  Kernel Panic - Not Syncing: Aiee, Killing interrupt handler.  has anyone seen this happen before?06:45
Hobbseenope, no clue, sorry06:46
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RichardCgoogle?06:50
RichardChttp://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2005/05/msg00002.html06:50
RichardCthat might be it06:50
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atlantistried google... that post doesnt have a reply... i get the same06:52
atlantiserror with debian06:52
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XiCillindoes anyone have skype on kubuntu 64?06:54
the_padawandoes anyone have a working mplayer on kubuntu 6406:54
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XiCillinhow working?06:55
the_padawanyou tell me06:55
the_padawancan it play wmv files?06:56
the_padawanor dvds06:56
the_padawanor mpegs or avis06:56
XiCillini dont' think you are able to cus non are 64-bit06:56
XiCillini'm going to try doing it now06:56
XiCillinis there an mplayer 64?06:56
the_padawannot in synaptic06:56
the_padawani don't know actually06:56
the_padawanit's been a while since i used it, and i stopped becuase i was unable to get videos to play06:57
the_padawanand now i'm curious if it's ready06:57
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XiCillini heard it because of the codecs06:57
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jsgotangcohey guys06:58
XiCillin" wmv9 files don't work in Ubuntu 64bit)"06:58
XiCillinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7527806:58
jsgotangcois there a way to go around that system settings bug in network settings?06:58
the_padawanhmm06:59
the_padawansome googling reveals xvid.org06:59
the_padawanwhich has a 64bit linux port06:59
the_padawanall right this looks good07:00
the_padawani think i'm going to try linux again =)07:00
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XiCillinthe_padawan: i'm reading a guide right now, its using totem or xine and playing everything cept wmv9 files07:04
the_padawanXiCillin: is the the link you sent me earlier? i am reading that as well07:05
XiCillinyea07:05
the_padawanlet me know how it goes for uyo07:05
the_padawanare you trying it?07:05
XiCillinyea07:06
XiCillindownloading codecs now07:06
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XiCillinxine is buggy it seems07:10
the_padawanwhat file formats are you trying to play?07:17
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RichardCwhat's a good ftp client?07:18
RichardCone that's simple07:18
RichardCi dont care bout features07:18
RichardCjust useability07:18
RichardCabout07:18
RichardCerm..07:18
crimsuncould you be any less vague?07:19
RichardCim getting KBear right now07:19
RichardCbut i've got no idea if its good or not07:19
RichardCheh07:19
RichardCwhat is a good ftp client for kde?07:19
RichardCloads of features arent neccessary07:19
RichardCease of use is07:20
crimsunkonqueror?07:20
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RichardC/blush07:20
RichardCwoops!07:21
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_tobiasmorning.07:52
billhEverytime I load cbsnews.com konqueror crashes.07:54
billhWhat's going on with that ? am I missing something or should I remove some package that isn't compatible with it ?07:54
crimsunnot reproducible here07:55
billhcrimsun talking to me ?07:55
billhyeah, It's been this way since the first days of installing Debian unstable for amd6407:55
billhThis is an amd64 machine BTW07:55
_tobiasI got a strange problem. If I run Synaptic (GTK+ app) from Konsole, it use the Qt style/theme. But when I run it from the KDE menu, it looks all ugly and dont use the Qt style/theme.... why.? =(07:58
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billhHave people been running into this problem as well under AMD64 ?08:00
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crimsunbillh: I haven't, but that's no indicator of existence08:12
DjDarkmanhy ,i need a media player for shoutcast ,cause amarok always freezes08:13
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JaeInstalled kubuntu today... it's freezing when I try to start it after I reboot from the installer. It's hanging on "configuring network adapters"... probably something to do with the fact that I have both a Dlink 510 Wireless (b/g) and a RealTek 10/100T wired card installed... any ideas? Besides taking one out.09:12
JaeDuring install, it couldn't detect the network, so I manually fed it an IP address.09:13
JaeI gave it 192.168.0.10009:13
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rohanhi all09:19
rohananyone has packages for kubuntu available, for the latest version of "lipstik" ?09:19
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fridgehttp://hovil.customer.netspace.net.au/kaffeine.png09:26
fridgeI can't figure out why the channels are greyed out in Kaffeine09:26
fridgeif it can detect the channels, I'm not sure why it can't play them :(09:27
JaeI think we're all more or less just asking the wind at this point.09:27
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macximianAnyone care to help a mac user connect to kubuntu09:28
macximianfilesharing says 'could not read nfs config"'09:28
macximianAlso my  mac isn't able to see  my kubuntu install on the  network... any ideas09:29
JaeUuuhm... what's the Mac running?09:31
macximiantiger 10.409:32
JaeOkay, that's a good start. Any other computers in the network?09:32
macximianno others09:32
JaeHmm. That makes it harder.09:33
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macximianI can connect to my mac using ssh from console window but thats all jae09:33
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NCLifeis there a new version of k3b, other than the one in the kubuntu repository09:34
NCLife?09:34
JaeI see. Hmm... I've only ever really put a Mac into a Windows network... never a Linux network.09:34
macximiansame here jae09:34
JaeI'd assume they'd run fairly parallel, though...09:34
JaeIt may sound stupid, but you might try setting both to using the Windows network.09:34
JaeOther than that, I don't have my Mac at hand right now, so I couldn't suggest anything helpful.09:34
macximianyou'd think so since 10.4 is bsd underneath the prettyness09:34
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macximiani shared a file using SMB but still nothing09:35
macximianfolder i mean09:35
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NCLifewell, ill go to bed, gnite09:35
rohanewww... kubuntu kde 3.5 packages are broken it seems09:36
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rohanno icons is media:/09:37
macximiananyboooody eeelssse no  annythiiiing aboout gggettiing   my   mac tooo ssee  mmmy linux   boox09:38
rohandamn, and no package menu when right click on debs.09:38
JaeHave you tried Bonjour?09:42
fridgemax: I usually setup nfs09:42
fridgeand then command-K09:42
JaeIt's a start of some sort.09:42
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rohanin kubuntu, where is the option to "hibernate" my comp present ?09:46
hunikaHello Everybody, I have downloaded the Gnoppix and now I am using the cd09:46
hunikaI don't know what but I find something beautifull in GNOME09:46
hunikait's simplicity maybe09:47
rohanhunika: i think you are on the wrong channel. for gnome, join #gnome, for ubuntu, on which gnoppix is based, join #ubuntu09:48
hunikarohan: I know I use KUBUNTU I just wanted to try gnome, and I downloaded Gnoppix09:48
rohanhunika: hehe, sorry, ok :(09:49
JaeStill wondering why my system likes to freeze up trying to load kubuntu09:49
hunikarohan: I use KUBUNTU for 2 months and I like it, and I am here online almost every day, just I was curious about GNOME and I don't know what I like in it but I like something.09:50
Snake__hunika: You could use gnome on kubuntu..09:50
rohanhunika: ok, i get the point. :|09:51
hunikaSnake__: how?????? Can I switch between the two interfaces?\09:51
Snake__hunika: Yes09:51
hunikaSnake__, how?09:51
Snake__hunika: when you log in, where it says session type, you just choose there before you log in09:51
Snake__sudo apt-get install gnome09:52
hunikaok thanks09:52
rohansudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, hunika09:52
Snake__:)09:52
Snake__No09:52
Snake__DONT DO Ubuntu-desktop09:52
rohanwhy not, Snake__ ?09:52
rohanSnake__: i have done it myself, and it works..09:53
Snake__rohan: that will install all the programs and everything of ubuntu, if all he wants is the gnome interface without the bulk, just get gnome09:53
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Snake__If he was on a server install, that would be fine,  but I assume hes on KDE09:54
rohani s'pose "gnome" will be bare-bones ... anyway, anything that works.09:54
Snake__Yes, gnome is the windows manager with no extra BS09:54
rohananyone here on kde 3.5 on breezy ?09:54
Snake__I09:55
rohanSnake__: then, in media:/ do you see the proper entries ?09:55
rohani have only one entry for floppy.09:55
Snake__hmmm09:56
Snake__Its not right..but its there09:56
Snake__It says I have 2 floppies, and 2 CD drives09:56
Snake__im on a laptop with 1 cd drive, no floppie lol09:56
rohanhmm.. i have no entry for cd drive, nor for hard disks.09:56
Snake__I have no hard drive entrys09:57
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rohanSnake__: they will appear if you disable hal, but thats a workabout, and auto cd mounting will fail with that.09:58
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Snake__I see10:00
hunikaSnake_: Can you help me please because those from #ubuntu don't want to help to me10:01
Snake__hunika: With?10:01
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hunikaSnake__: How do I mount devices in Gnome, I mean where, I know that in KDE at System Settings, but here where?10:02
Snake__Mmm I don't know man10:02
Snake__I dont run gnome10:02
rohanhunika: see in the places menu, for already mounted hdd's10:03
hunikaSnake_: neither I, I am just trying it10:03
rohanhunika: cd-roms will be mounted automatically.10:03
hunikarohan: Yes will be but I am using a Live cd and I think I can mount my hard drive to access music video10:04
rohanhunika: ah, live cd... you need to mount manually, and create the mount points manually too.10:04
hunikarohan: I know, just tell me how in GNOME10:05
rohanhunika: from live cd, there is no way to automatically mount. mount in /media, restart dbus daemon, and then the mount point will appear in Places menu.10:06
rohanatleat ^^^ works for me.10:06
thoreauputichunika: you can do  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media    for example , too10:07
thoreauputicafaik on the live CD there's no password - or look for a root terminal10:07
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hunikarohan: I know what you are saying, I want to mount manually, but how? I am using linux for 2 months. I KDE I mounted my partitions at System Settings - Disk..10:07
hunikabut here where?10:07
hunikaSystem - Administration?10:07
thoreauputichunika: I just told you one way - from the terminal10:08
rohanhunika: sudo mkdir /media/hdX ; sudo mount /dev/hdX /media/hdX10:08
rohanreplace X everywhere with the device id.10:08
thoreauputicif you mount directly to /media or /mnt you won't need to create a directory10:09
thoreauputicwhatever you prefer...10:09
hunikarohan: A simpler way? My partition is ntfs10:10
hunikawhere my music is10:11
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rohanhunika: no simpler way that i know of, in gnome :(10:12
rohanneed to leave, cya guys, bye :)10:13
hunikarohan: Terminal asked from me to specify mount type10:14
hunikafilesystem type10:14
billhSo gnome isn't compatible with KDE under Ubuntu ?10:15
Snake__billh: yes it is10:15
billhhow should I install it /10:15
billh?10:15
Snake__sudo apt-get install kde10:15
billhI just move from Debian unstable to breezy, but I don't know how all of this is integrated.10:15
hunikarohan: ?????10:16
billhIt complains about not being able to install 3 packages.10:16
billhkdegraphics, etc...10:16
Snake__ugh10:16
Snake__hold on10:16
Snake__billh: Install the packages it says it can't install10:17
Snake__then install kde10:17
billhIt says it's missing packages.10:17
billhcan you message me your apt sources file ?10:18
billhI could have screwed up the configuration.10:18
hunikaSnake_: Help me please to mount my hard drive. It is ntfs. I wrote to terminal but it ask to specify mount filesystem type how?10:18
Snake__hang on10:18
billhok thanks10:18
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Snake__Hobbsee_: help me out with these guys! Im a nub I cant handle this! lol10:18
Hobbsee_what's this for?10:19
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Snake__hunika needs his HDD mounted in a linux ubuntu, and billh needs my sources list10:19
billhA whole number of package dependency are kind of screwed up from this upgrad.e10:19
billhzinf was removed10:19
billhbah10:19
Hobbsee!tell billh about repos10:20
Hobbsee!tell hunika about mount10:20
Hobbseethat should be a start...10:20
macximiananyone here able to help me setup smb? specifically specy the workgroup name10:20
Hobbseedishes, back soon...10:20
hunikaHobbsee: I am using Gnoppix so Live CD10:21
billhthanks, I'll try this.10:21
Snake__billh: heres my sources10:21
Snake__http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/48693910:21
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hunikaHobbsee: just say to me how to mount my ntfs hard drive permanently in GNOME10:21
Snake__hunika: Hang on I may be of help10:22
Snake__let me find this link10:22
Chameleon22scanner not being detected by kooka (and gimp) but shows up on device list when kooka is started - ideas , cause i am all out , loaded firmware, lsmod looks fine, etc10:23
Chameleon22stumped10:23
Snake__hunika: I dont know if this will work in gnoppix....but it might, its worth a shot10:23
Snake__hunika: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs10:23
Snake__hunika: AND DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT GUIDE10:23
Snake__Most of it is very outdated10:23
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billhSnake__ and this sources.list is going to have the latest KDE in it ?10:23
billh3.5 ?10:23
Snake__Only the part that speaks of the windows mounting10:23
penguinzdrhi dudes10:23
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Snake__billh: No if you want to upgrade to 3.5, install 3.4 and go from there10:24
Snake__ill brb guys10:24
billhyeah, the problem is that coming from Debian unstable might have screwed up the dependencies.10:25
Snake__alright im back10:26
hunikaSnake_: It won't work with Gnoppix. Anyway thanks. It says to me permission denied probably because runs from cd. Anyway I can use messenger everything here. I am just trying it10:26
Snake__billh: perhaps do a fresh install of kubutu?10:26
billhmaybe, it might be too late.10:26
hunikaSnake__: I use KUBUNTU10:26
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Snake__hunika: THATS WUNDERBAR!!10:27
JaeSo what other GUIs are there available? Gnome, KDE...10:27
hunikaSnake__: You are german?10:27
Snake__xfce10:27
Snake__fluxbox10:27
Snake__black box10:27
Snake__( Jae tahts all to you)10:27
Snake__hunika: Nope.10:27
Jae(Figured, thanks.)10:27
JaeAnyone have any idea why kubuntu would freeze up during startup trying to configure the network adapters?10:28
hunikaSnake__: where are you from? I am from ROMANIA10:28
Snake__hunika: The Communist States of America10:28
JaeActually, we're a Republic...10:28
JaeCommunists have it easy.10:29
Snake__Jae: Its a joke. Calm down.10:29
JaeI know.10:29
Jae:D10:29
hunikaSnake__: :))))))))))))))))))))10:29
P3L|C4N0hunika, vorbesc romaneste?10:29
JaeTo be perfectly honest, we're a Democratic Republic. But give Bush a few more years and we'll be an Empire.10:29
hunikaP3L|C4N0: sunt ungur10:30
Snake__English10:30
hunikaP3L|C4N0: dar vorbes10:30
hunikac10:30
Snake__hunika: Why not use Ubuntu Live CD?10:31
hunikaSnake__: I am just wrtiting to that guy or girl10:31
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JaeWatashi wa nihon no gakusei desu... so... I'm so lame. I'm not even an otaku.10:31
hunikaSnake__: Gnoppix is the Ubuntu Live CD. Gnoppix is based on UBUNTU too check www.gnoppix.org10:31
billhThe "apt" I'm using is having problem with the Kubuntu one.10:32
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Snake__billh: I would highly suggest a fresh install, I cant help ya10:32
billhok10:32
billhwell, I'm going to have to wing it.10:32
Snake__lol10:33
Snake__Good luck m810:33
JaeHmm..10:33
billhI'll have to half destroy my system first before doing a fresh install10:33
JaeI guess maybe another fresh install and forcing the network again.10:33
hunikaSnake__: One thing which I appreciate in GNOME is that it is FASTER a lot more10:33
Snake__hunika: I am talking about the offical ubuntu CD10:34
hunikaSnake__: I don't know about that! Check www.gnoppix.org10:34
Snake__I did10:35
hunikaSnake_: I think it is the same10:35
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Snake__I dunno10:35
JaeYou know what would be neat?10:35
Snake__Whats that10:36
HobbseeSnake__: did any links get sent to me during that?10:36
JaeThe ability to run a Linux partition from inside Windows. Without emulation.10:36
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hunikaSnake__: I just downloaded it to try Gnome and to have a live cd. That is all10:36
JaeKinda like... uhm... those ones... that do the thing in Linux that let you run Windows. Not WINE...10:36
JaeVMWare and stuff.10:36
Snake__Jae: there is one10:36
Snake__Jae: it's called Virtual PC 2004 (It costs money)10:36
Snake__Microsoft makes it10:36
Jae>_O10:37
JaeI hate Microsoft.10:37
Snake__lol10:37
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JaeQemu does the same job.10:37
Snake__http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs10:37
Snake__oops10:37
Snake__not that link10:37
Snake__http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx10:37
Snake__that one10:37
HobbseeJae: cgwin, i think10:37
Snake__Trial i :)10:37
Snake__it*10:37
Snake__Damn I can't type lol10:38
Jaecygwin is not the win.10:38
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Jaehttp://www.colinux.org/10:38
Snake__but it can only run knoppix10:39
Snake__in jap10:39
billhIf I can pull this back out to a barebones install, it might work10:40
billhthe apt stuff scares me thought10:41
billhthough10:41
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billhI could be using the worng version of apt for Ubuntu10:41
Snake__ll10:41
Snake__lol*10:41
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Chameleon22scanner not being detected by kooka (and gimp) but shows up on device list when kooka is started - ideas , cause i am all out , loaded firmware, lsmod looks fine, etc   also how do i check what device (in /dev/) it is assigned to so i can ln fake scanner device to it10:51
DHGEChameleon22: user rights? try as root (u might have to install sux first) - search the ubuntu forum: i found the solution for the problem (scsi, udev-related) there10:57
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Chameleon22DHGE, tryed as root, same result. whats "sux"10:58
DHGEapt-cache search sux ;-)10:58
Chameleon22DHGE, also its a usb scanner, not scsi10:58
DHGEi'm no expert...10:59
Chameleon22DHGE, eh ok10:59
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blackflaghello all11:12
blackflagcan someone tell me how I can edit a pdf-file?11:13
billhSnake__ man this is nasty11:13
Snake__Lol11:13
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billhIt might not be worth going this route.11:16
billhWasn't there some kind of package preferences that you can specify in a configuration file ?11:16
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billhSnake__ it just removed my libc6 and the system is now dead11:44
Snake__billh: .....11:45
Snake__Might wanna fresh install11:45
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Snake__:)11:45
billhno shit11:45
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billhthat was fun11:45
Snake__lol11:45
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billhThis also means that the system won't boot any longer11:47
Snake__So whats that mean11:47
billhI'll do a full install11:47
billhI have to do a full install11:48
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Snake__heh11:48
Snake__Have fun with that :)11:48
billhThis royally sucks11:48
billhbut...11:48
billhit was an experiment11:48
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Snake__lol11:48
Snake__thats the fun of linux :)11:49
billhyeah, major suckage11:49
toseki have problems to start the dloaded live cd on an Apple ibook g4. it does not start holding c. should i try to burn it again?11:49
Jaetosek: I don't understand "it does not start holding c". Can you rephrase that?11:52
tosektheoretically i t should work. you can start any mac from cd when you hold c during startup11:53
Jaeoooh...11:54
Jaeare you running os x?11:54
tosekyes. 10.3.911:54
toseki wanted to have a look on (k)ubuntu11:54
Jaetry to see if you can select it as a startup disk. if not, burn it again but use toast if you can.11:54
toseki'll try11:55
Jaeapple menu -> system preferences -> startup disks -> kubuntu livecd11:55
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tosekit does not show up12:00
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JaeI didn't think it would. Can you browse it like a normal CD?12:00
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tosekyes. Oh i see. there's also the md5sum.txt12:03
JaeAll I can recommend, then, is to reboot and hold C before the computer restarts, then see if it boots. If not, reburn the cd using toast.12:03
JaeDo check the md5sum.12:03
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Snake__Hobbsee: got a min?12:30
Hobbseeyeah12:31
Snake__Can you test out my kicker killer script?12:31
Snake__lol12:31
Snake__(dont worry its reverible)12:31
Hobbseeum, maybe12:32
Hobbseedo you still have teh link to the first deb that i sent you?12:32
Hobbseethe breezy one?12:32
Snake__Hang on let me check my logs12:32
Hobbseek12:33
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_buzhow can i check that nvidia drivers are accelerating it?12:53
_buzit still seems unusably slow12:53
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heinzhallo gutes neues jahr noch12:55
JakubS__buz: if it is unusably slow then you know that it is not accelerated :-)12:56
_buzbut i have renderaccel true in my xorg.conf12:56
_buzand i'm using nvidia12:56
_buz(as driver)12:56
_buzmaybe it IS unusably slow by my definition, subjectively, it feels faster than on a comparably speced ati system12:57
JakubS_do you have anything about renderaccel in Xorg.log.0 ?12:57
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_buzwtf12:57
_buzXorg log says I'm using nv12:58
_buzno wonder it sucks12:58
_buzouch12:58
_buzthere are two devices in xorg ;)12:59
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pinucsetone think, is there any amule for kde? something like kamule :S01:02
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soazi have kubuntu with KDE 3.4.3 (quess) installed and i miss a wizard, which let's me minimize "special (visual) efects" with a slide bar. which was present in previous versions of KDE. especially, when you started KDE for the first time. does anyone know, where can i find this wizard ? is it a standalone application ? it is possible that it isn't installed on my system. how is it called, please ?01:03
Hobbseesoaz: sudo apt-get install kpersonalizer01:04
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sillyI can't decide whether or not to have a sausage sarnie01:05
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NPC_CrysHey, how do I create logons for my family?01:10
NPC_CrysAnd make them usable and such?01:11
NPC_CrysDead room.01:12
NPC_CrysOkay, bye.01:12
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naliothNPC_Crys: give us a chance, some of us are in many rooms01:13
Bizzehhey, i donwloaded and burned kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso, when i boot with it, it asks me what language and screen resolutions i want, then it does a little graphical boot thing, then just gives me a console? isnt there suposed to be some sort of installer?01:13
_buzJakubS_: removing the nv device seems to have helped, thanks ;)01:13
naliothBizzeh: i'm not sure about the dvd image (and what it does) perhaps ask in #ubuntu01:13
Bizzehasked in there, no one said anything01:14
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pinucsetone think, is there any amule for kde? something like kamule :S01:23
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can i ugrade to Dapper Flight 2?01:28
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apokryphosDjDarkman: it's not a good idea; it's unstable and many things are broken.01:33
apokryphosif you don't know what you're doing, it's a trap of landmines I'm afraid 8)01:33
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naliothapokryphos and his sunny 'good mornings'01:36
NPC_CrysGood morning!\01:37
apokryphosmownin' nalioth01:37
DjDarkmanapokryphos: so your sayin that it`s a better idea to w8 for it to become stable?01:37
NPC_CrysYes.01:37
apokryphosDjDarkman: or at least to wait a bit longer, yes.01:37
DjDarkmanapokryphos: and i will havte download the iso and install it ,or i will be available with apt?01:37
NPC_CrysSorry about not giving youa chance, nalioth.01:37
apokryphosDjDarkman: straight from apt01:38
DjDarkmanok ,thanx 4 the info apokryphos & have a nice day01:38
NPC_CrysAnyways, I found my answer on my own.01:38
NPC_Crysspeaking of which, I'm going to check my other accounts now. Cya.01:38
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asranielhi there, anyone that knows apt-get good? i have broken something and dont realy know how to fix it01:46
apokryphospastebin the error, then, for the channel01:47
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asranielapokryphos: well, the error is in german, well, not all of it, i'll post it01:48
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asranielapokryphos: or first i explain it:01:48
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asranieli wanted to install mythtv, then adept promted me about something that had to do with email servers. i clicked on cancel01:49
asranielnow i have a broken mailx package. this package would need postfix, but i cant install it01:49
asranielthe thing is, i cant uninstall it either01:50
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asranielomg, i cant install a single package anymore, my apt-get is totaly brocken!01:55
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capricorn_tmHi there^_^02:42
capricorn_tmHappy new year02:42
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jaseanyone know a decent solution fo rwhy my wlan0 flashed to enable when when i enable it, but the flashed back to disable on kde control module network settings03:28
jaseah wait no it's done it03:29
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__DwayneHello all..03:31
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jasehow do i set the DNS on kubuntu03:36
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xanax`hi03:46
__Dwaynehi03:47
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ChousukeHmm.04:00
ChousukeI decided to install KDE on a machine with 500MHz and 128MB of RAM04:00
ChousukeI hope I can trim down RAM usage so that it's usable.04:00
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RiddellChousuke: 128 should be OK, let me know how you get on04:08
crownis krusader in active development? it crash when in one dir there is same names with different case. funny :-/04:11
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kitschcrown: last beta came in october, so i think it's in active development. http://krusader.sourceforge.net/04:14
crownkitsch: sad. thanks04:16
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__Dwayneanyone know anything about why some windows are too big for a display?04:21
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claudiuhi !04:26
claudiuhappy new year!04:27
claudiuhow can i see what files a deb package contains ?04:27
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blackflagcan someone tell me how  can I edit an existing PDF-file?04:42
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KleRoihello, i downloaded kubuntu and wanted to install it on my pc, but i dont know well how to partition my hd to create space for it. can anyone help me?04:45
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slow-motionhallo04:46
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berkesstrange. my aspell is acting weird. quanta says it cannot be found, konq. fails to fire up the spellcheck dialog completely.05:03
berkesyet aspell is installed, and is in my $PATH.05:03
ChousukeMan, KDE is quite big :/05:03
berkeshehe Chousuke, it is. but you can make it very small if you want.05:04
ChousukeI guess I'll have to manually remove some packages after it's done installing the system05:04
ChousukeMy family will have little us for kregexpeditor05:04
Chousukeuse*05:05
berkesdoes anyone know where KDE stores the spellcheck options? so that i can check if kcontrol saved them correctly?05:05
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berkesChousuke: I doubt removing kregexpeditor changes anything about the size though :P05:06
ChousukeI'll remove other stuff too05:07
berkesChousuke: and a good thing is to replace FF with konq and OO with koffice, if you need speed and smallness05:07
Chousukelike arts. the compter has no sound card.05:07
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berkesoh, just basically best to use all the native KDE apps and not some odd XUL or GTK app (like evolution or thunderbird)05:08
ChousukeYeah.05:08
ChousukeThat's what I thought05:08
ChousukeBut the machine still has only 128 MB of RAM05:08
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ChousukeI'm hoping the configurability of KDE will allow me to bring the memory usage down.05:10
ChousukeI'll have to simplify the UI a lot too.05:12
ChousukeMy folks will have no use for the advanced features that KDE offers :)05:12
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berkesChousuke: there is a wiki / tutorial on how to minimize KDEs recourse usage05:12
ChousukeOh.05:13
ChousukeWhere?05:13
berkeson the intqrweb05:13
berkesuse google05:13
berkes:)05:13
Chousuke:p05:13
berkesbut people, can anyone hint me, where to find whether my kde has the correct settings for aspell stored?05:14
ChousukeI think aspell is independent of KDE05:14
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berkesChousuke: yea, but kde uses it for its spellchecking.05:15
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GrougnachHello there, I have a problem to install Kdevelop05:26
voicuI have a "DVD (hdd)" icon on my desktop. It is a link to mount my cdrom into /hdd and I can't get rid of it. It doesn't appear in the ~/Desktop directory. Does anyone know why does it appear?05:26
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voicuOf course, I tried deleting it but nothing happens...05:27
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rohanhi all05:32
rohanwhere do i get qt4 4.1 packages for kubuntu from ?05:32
Grougnachvoicu , I had the problem with the 3.4.x version of KDE I updated to 3.5 and now it's OK ...05:32
voicuGrougnach: That's nice :), this thing appeared happened to me since I updated to KDE3.505:34
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rohanmm.. kde 3.5 has b0rken hal support05:34
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voicuNow the icons in K menu got bigger for no reason... I am starting to believe KDE has free will :P05:40
rohanvoicu: because kubuntu sets it that way.05:40
rohanvoicu: you can adjust the icon size05:41
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rohanvoicu: http://www.canllaith.org/hacks.html05:41
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voicuthanks rohan05:44
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rohanvoicu: ty.05:45
rohanhave you used kde before this, on an os other than kubuntu, voicu ?05:45
Grougnachvoicu, Is your DVD mounted ? Is there a cd/dvd in the drive ?05:45
voicuwell, yes, I used it on Red Hat and other Linux distros.. also on on FreeBSD but I'm used to any of them yet05:46
rohanvoicu: ok.05:46
voicugrouchnach: there is a dvd in the drive but the icon always appears05:47
voicu*I'm not used to any of them yet05:47
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voicuBut shouldn't the icon appear in ~/Desktop if I see on the desktop?05:48
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Grougnachvoicu I suppose you right click on it and try to eject ...05:52
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Grougnachvoicu,  what does say the system settings / disk & filesystem in administrator mode ?05:53
voicuGrougnach: I unmounted it, ejected it and took the DVD out but when I try to delete it nothing happens.05:53
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voicuGrougnach, what do you mean?06:00
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GrougnachIf you launch systemsettings there is an icon concerning disks and file systems. If you switch to anministrator mode you will be able to mount umount disks "by hand"06:02
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voicuMounting or unmounting isn't my problem. The thing is that the icon *is* on the desktop but I can't delete it (nothing happens when I press delete, no errors) and there isn't a DVD (hdd).desktop file in ~/Desktop.06:05
voicuThe disk is unmounted. No dvd is in the drive06:06
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voicuWhen I copy the icon/file/whatever it acts like I was copying the cd/dvd06:10
jsubl2voicu, you might try looking in the kde control center - Desktop - behavior under device icons06:11
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voicuIt works, thanks jsubl206:13
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jsubl2:)06:14
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GeckoHello. I am having trouble installing kubuntu-desktop. I am getting a Size mismatch on the files coming from http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35.06:15
GeckoCan anyone help or give a hint on what to do?06:15
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Stormx2Gecko: tried sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:16
Stormx2?06:16
GeckoStormx2, it is exactly what I am doing06:16
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Geckothe files concerned is: kdelibs-bin, kdelibs-data, artsbuilder, kaudiocreator, kdemultimedia, klaptopdaemon, klaptopdaemon and kwalletmanager06:20
Geckoall are downloaded from that kde3.5 repo mentioned in the topic06:20
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Geckothey are all downloaded as a part of apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but are making apt-get fail because they don't match the size they are "supposed to be"06:21
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GeckoCan anyone help?06:22
jsubl2tried another mirror06:23
GeckoI thought there weren't any mirrors of those unofficial ones?06:24
jsubl2I think there are mirrored with kde.... not sure tho06:24
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jsubl2ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.5/kubuntu06:27
pinucsetis there any emule for kde? like kmule?06:27
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rraphinkpinucset: not that I know of06:28
rraphinkthere's amule06:28
rraphinkbut it's not kde based06:28
_mattdoes anyone know if Kget will get Bittorrent support in the near future?06:28
rraphink_matt: you can use ktorrent06:28
rraphinkkget is a download client, not a bittorrent one06:29
_matti know, but i seem to remember from the KDE wish list that its high on the wish list!06:29
Geckojsubl2, same error06:30
jsubl2Gecko, sorry.  no idea06:30
Geckook06:30
GeckoI just have to do without 3.5 then06:31
_mattrraphink - I use the windows emule verson using wine - it works better than amule!06:31
rraphinkhaha06:31
rraphinkuse limewire then06:31
rraphinkit's faster06:31
_mattyer but emule can connect to the KAD network06:31
rraphinkhmm06:31
jsubl2Gecko, yeah this is odd.. it worked ok when i upgraded06:31
Geckoor just realize that it's also 3.5 being installed without that repo :D06:31
rraphinkdon't pirate :p06:31
rraphinklisten to free music :p06:32
_mattof course - allways!06:32
Geckoor play your own ;)06:32
jsubl2Gecko, i installed kubuntu-desktop then upgraded tho.06:32
GeckoOk :)06:33
voicugecko, maybe i'm saying something stupid, but you could try deleting the package cache (in aptitude)06:33
Geckovoicu, perhaps. I'll try that later :)06:34
_mattGecko - are you trying to upgrade to 3.5?06:35
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Gecko_matt, no, I am trying to install kubuntu06:35
Geckoand wanting to have the newest06:35
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_mattGecko - are you using the flight 2 dapper drake install CD?06:36
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Gecko_matt, no, normal breezy here06:37
Geckoim trying to install kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu-desktop06:37
Geckoand succeeding also, after removing that experimental rep06:37
_mattI see - cant say that I have upgraded from ubuntu06:38
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GeckoWas that kubuntu humor? :)06:38
Geckomentioning kubuntu as an upgrade to ubuntu? ;)06:39
_mattsorry no! I forgot that people are very defensive of there desktop!06:39
_matti shouldnt have said upgraded - I meant 'changed'06:40
_mattbut I can tell you that flight 2 works very well on an IBM T30 Thinkpad - if that helps!06:40
Geckowell, I just installed ubuntu a few days ago. I'll try it out, as soon as my need to personalize is replaced by my need for adventure ;)06:41
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_mattlol!06:42
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Gecko_matt, it's ok. I thought it pretty funny06:42
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_mattwhat distro were you using before?06:42
Geckohad a linux break06:43
Geckohad some problems with my laptop and hardware support, so I kinda took a break, because it was impossible to get up and running06:43
GeckoBut I have just bought another laptop, where linux runs without any problems...06:44
_mattwhat laptop do you have?06:44
Geckothe one not working is an asus a4k06:44
Geckoit's an amd64 based one06:44
Geckothe one I recently bought is actually kindof old, but is just right for my needs06:45
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Geckocompaq armada m300, very small and slick06:45
Geckoweighs nothing at all06:45
Geckoand very slim too06:46
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Geckonow you'll have to excuse me, I have to test out that kubuntu system :)06:47
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Geckowow, I think I could actually get used to this kde thing :)06:56
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GeckoNot that I haven't been saying that sentense since kde 1.1 :P06:57
ninHerhi all06:57
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HymnToLifehi :) how do you resie the text in Kopete's conversation windows ?06:57
HymnToLifeit's so damn big :/06:57
HymnToLiferesize*06:57
sampanhymntolife  configure --> appearance --> colors & fonts tab06:59
sampanshould be able to change the font size there06:59
HymnToLifethanks :)06:59
HymnToLifeI was wondering why the hell there wasn't something in the Chat Window tab :p07:00
sampan:)  sometimes options get hidden ;)07:00
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HymnToLifesampan > and how do I remove those "xxxx has left chat" on MSN chats ?07:14
_MattHay Gecko - did your kubuntu work?07:15
sampanhymntolife  not sure -- i never use kopete or im apps actually ... found the fonts just by accident :/07:15
HymnToLifeok, gonna search in the help then :p07:15
sampanit might be: configure -- behavior -- chat ... there's a line there: "show events in chat" which might be arrivals and departures?  not sure07:16
Gecko_Matt: no problem at all :)07:16
_MattGecko - thats cool!07:17
GeckoI thought superkaramba functionality was somehow built into kde?07:17
_MattYes, thats what I throught on the KDE website it says that it is in 3.507:18
_Mattbut I cant see it in Kubunutu07:18
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sampan_matt  have you installed 3.5 on kubuntu?  breezy installs 3.4.3 -- you have to deliberately upgrade to 3.507:19
_Mattyep, I upgraded to 3.507:19
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_Mattbut flight 2 dapper drake installs 3.5 by default07:20
ChousukeHmm.07:20
ChousukeInstalled KDE 3.507:20
ChousukeSlow, but I think my folks'll like it07:20
True_ChaosIm thinking im fucked here, but my mom hardshutdown my laptop (running kubuntu) cause the blinking lights annoyed her. Im now stuck at GRUB Loading, Please wait...07:20
True_Chaosany ideas? I have no idea where to even start07:20
sampanouch07:21
_Mattdo you have a install CD?07:21
True_Chaosive got an install cd kicking around somewhere07:21
True_Chaosor I should, anyway07:21
_Matti think that has a 'recover system' option on it07:21
_Matthas anyone ever tried to recover a system?07:22
True_Chaoshmm07:22
True_ChaosI get to the install menu07:22
True_Chaosand thats not really what I want to do07:22
True_Chaos:P07:22
sampantrue_chaos  don't do anything drastic.  i'm too newb to know, but if there aren't experts here atm, you might try asking in #ubuntu -- more people and someone's bound to know07:23
True_Chaoskk07:23
nekodoes anyone here have any experiance of the double clock speed bug on some of the ATI based laptops?07:23
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True_Chaosgrr, the consensus seems to be attempt to reinstall grub07:32
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tencohi folks!07:41
_networkerahoy07:41
_networkeranyone know how to install mplayer on (k)ubuntu?07:42
tencoi need a fast and not too ugly kde theme for a slow computer. any suggestions? qtcurve?07:42
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neko_networker: adept works for me07:48
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nekoI think synaptic is the installer for ubuntu07:49
True_Chaosanyone know how to install grub?07:49
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nekoor "sudo apt-get install mplayer" from command line IIRC07:50
_networkeryah neko i don't think it's in the universe repo anymore07:50
_networkerit sez package not found07:50
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nekohave you added multiverse?07:50
True_Chaossudo apt-cache search mplayer07:50
True_Chaossee what that shows up07:50
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_networkertrue_chaos: it came back with one file, and it's a kernel driver for matrox vid cards07:51
True_Chaoshrm07:52
True_Chaosthen ive no clue07:52
True_Chaos:P07:52
_networkerif it shows up for you true_chaos, can i have a copy of your sources.list?07:52
True_Chaosit did, but right now im trying to recover my system :P07:53
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_networkeroops...07:53
_networkerneko, can i have a copy of yours then?07:53
nekoone mo07:53
_networkerneko, i thank you07:53
steve_laptopSteven just got busted invoice just came in with lee's name and address on it and the book keeper wanted to no who that was being there is no job acc. set up.... think fast "O" that was a repair paid cash.... rong answer $2000.000 wtf "O" "0" BUSTED!!!07:56
_networkersteve_laptop... wtf?07:57
steve_laptoprong forum :)07:58
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_networkersudo adept08:00
_networkerSWEEEEET... thank you neko08:00
nekonp08:00
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difetaa couple days ago, konqurer stopped showing me thumbnails of my picutes. The thumbnails show up on the desktop but not in the browser. Any ideas of whats going on?08:05
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RustyJamesis it possible to start a program coressponding to the CD that is inserted? e.g. the cd-player for an audio-cd?08:12
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RustyJameshello?08:18
RustyJamesanyone there?08:18
_philipyaah08:19
RustyJamesis it possible to start a program coressponding to the CD that is inserted? e.g. the cd-player for an audio-cd?08:19
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aseigoRustyJames: the hot plug manager in kde3.5 provides for that, yes08:20
neoncodeAre there any dangers in building something with full debug support?08:21
RustyJamesand in kde 3.4.1?08:21
RiddellRustyJames: you would have to edit the files in /etc/ivman08:21
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slow-motionbbl08:22
RustyJamesRiddell, is there some document in which it is described?08:23
Riddelltry the ivman website08:23
RustyJamesok thanks08:23
Riddelltheir wiki has various examples08:23
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neoncodeHey i'm trying to complie amarok with debug mode because the packaged amarok won't work. configure runs fine but make gives a tone of errors....08:25
lwizardl!universe08:25
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:25
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neoncodeanyone any help?08:28
nxv_hi, can i have samba users independent from the system users?08:29
lwizardl!nvidia08:29
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:29
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FluajuHello!08:30
lwizardlis there a guide for nvidia on kubuntu08:31
FluajuHello?08:31
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Riddell!nvidia08:34
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:34
Riddellah, you did that already :)08:34
lwizardlyeah thats for gnome08:35
lwizardli just added gnome to my system so i can use that08:35
Riddelljust use adept instead of synaptic08:35
BrianB04Quick question: How do I setup Kubuntu to be able to view DivX movies?08:36
lwizardlBrianB04: i think you need the w32 codecs for that08:36
lwizardlor use vlc08:36
BrianB04VLC?08:37
lwizardlvideo lan client08:37
lwizardlhas settings for all videos08:37
lwizardlbasically requires no codecs08:37
BrianB04What repository holds VLC?08:38
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lwizardlnot sure i have universe and multiverse enabled but i'm currently redoing my system08:39
lwizardladept finds it just called "vlc"08:39
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BrianB04I just found that VLC hosts one, so I will try those.08:39
neoncodethe packaged version of amarok 1.3.7 won't work for me. So I'm trying to build it from source with debug support. configure runs fine but make fails. the output from both make and configure are here... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6493... any advice?08:39
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mikispaghello08:41
Zerlinnahi :-)08:43
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Zerlinnaif you want to meet kubuntu users from all over the world, join in to: www.frappr.com/kubuntu08:44
mikispagthanks, I'll try that08:44
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Zerlinna:)08:45
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mikispagwell I'm Italian. How can I add me? :)08:45
mikispagoh I see08:45
mikispagthe form below08:45
Zerlinnamiki: just click on "add yourself" :-)08:46
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mikispagI see, I've just added myself :)08:47
Zerlinnamikispag: nice08:47
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lwizardlhow can i change the time format from 24hour to 12hour08:51
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lwizardl!windows08:51
ubotusomebody said windows was unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative08:51
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lwizardl!ntfs08:51
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uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK08:51
lwizardlok i have sounds coming from my speakers but applications keep crashing saying no device found whats up08:54
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lwizardland the winmac_fstab file is reporting 40408:56
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rhendrixhwllo09:03
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rhendrixanyone know anything about fglrx drivers and ATI graphics09:03
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lwizardlhow do i mount my hdb1 drive (its ntfs formated) i want to copy the files over and burn them to disc09:07
neoncode!lart amarok09:08
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ChousukeHmm.09:15
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erlebhello09:18
erlebi wonder if any here have experience in installing mplayer on kubuntu? i cant "compile it" it seems..(think it has something todo with gcc version4.x) and i dont find it when i search with "apt-cache search mplayer"09:20
jpatrickit's mplayer-38609:20
jpatrick!info mplayer-38609:20
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB09:20
erlebhmm, maybe my "sources-list" are wrong then?09:21
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erlebneed i to add something extra there?09:21
jpatrickerleb: you need multiverse enabled09:21
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erleboki, I do that in sources.list?09:22
jpatrickerleb: yse09:22
jpatrickyou need to remove the '#' from it's deb line09:23
erlebthanks :)09:23
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ChousukeKDE is cool :)09:25
erlebSince im first in here.. It seems that a great deal is working really smooth in kubuntu.. I like it alot :)09:25
Chousukealbeit slightly slow on this machine09:25
RiddellChousuke: tht the 128Megs machine?09:25
Chousukeyeah09:25
Riddelljust don't start openoffice09:26
Chousuketakes time to redraw windows09:26
DjDarkmanhow can i make a pogram start on kde startup?09:26
Chousukehmm09:26
Chousukeput a .desktop file in /usr/share/kdesomething/Autostart or something.09:26
_MattHi erleb - what version of Kubunut are you using?09:26
Riddell~/.kde/Autostart09:27
Chousukeor that09:27
DjDarkman10x Riddell09:27
erlebhmm, look at "cd .kde/Autostart"09:27
Chousukehm09:28
Chousukewhere was the systemwide autostart dir?09:28
Chousukecan't find it after all09:28
Chousuke;P09:28
erlebhey matt, i just installed it.. its breezy09:28
_Mattwere you a windows user or linix user before?09:28
erlebi used debian before.. :)09:29
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_Mattthats funny - do did I!09:29
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erlebUbuntu kindof "autodetect" things i had to work alot to get working before it seems..09:29
Chousuke:)09:30
slow-motionre09:30
sproingieubuntu works with ati cards almost out of the box, which is a plus09:30
_Mattare you using a desktop or a laptop?09:30
erlebIm using laptop..09:30
lwizardlcan someone help me with getting my ntfs drive mounted in kubuntu the page doesn't work09:31
erlebI think the laptop doesnt go to "sleep" or suspend though..09:31
_Mattsame here - i liked how kubuntu just works - with the excellent KDE desktop09:31
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_MattHi lwizard1 - go into the control centre09:34
_Mattthen into system administraton09:35
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_Mattthen the HD section09:37
_Mattdoes your NTFS HD show in here?09:37
noomno09:37
noomhow can i see ntfs in kubuntu09:37
neoncodeWill a version of amarok I built from source work better than the repo version?09:38
noomhow can i see ntfs in kubuntu09:38
noomplz09:38
lwizardlmatt i got it working using info from ubuntu guide09:39
lwizardlnoom: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs09:39
_Mattthats cool lwizard09:39
_MattI was just writing an essay for you!09:39
noomthx09:39
noomi ll try09:39
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noom^_^09:40
lwizardlnow i just need to find out how to grant write access to it so i can delete files from it09:40
_MattIve never worked that out to be honist - I tick the box for write access - but it does not work09:41
_Mattif you work it out - let me know!09:41
noomhow about download kernel-module-ntfs09:42
noombut that for FC509:42
lwizardlmatt: i'm switching to linux 100% not even going to use wine type emulation (if i can help it) i just need to pull my data from the windows partition09:43
_stoneHola09:43
_stonequiero editar mi xor.conf09:43
_stonexorg.conf09:43
_stonecon que comando lo hago09:44
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_Matti see - do you think that you can do 100% what you want to do with kubuntu!09:44
_Matt?09:44
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_MattI have a duel boot laptop, windows/kubuntu - I want to go 100% kubuntu09:46
tudor:D09:46
tudordon`t we all09:46
_Mattwho in here is using kubunutu 100% ?09:47
tudorsorry09:47
tudorand I don`t think I`ll ever be able to do that09:47
_Mattwhy not tudor?09:48
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tudorwell09:50
tudorI`m a webdesigner09:50
tudorweb programmer actually09:50
tudorin Romania09:50
jpatrick_Matt: I am09:50
tudorand most of the users have crappy IE09:51
tudorand I must check a site for correct display in IE09:51
jpatricktudor: ditch IE09:51
tudortherefor I need IE aka windows09:51
tudorI can`t...09:51
tudorthere are lots of people using it...09:51
jpatrickjust do it09:51
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tudorand my customers09:51
tudorthe people paying me09:51
jpatrickdo what Google does and say use Firefox! or whatever09:52
tudorwant their website to display their site in ie09:52
tudorit doesn`t work like that09:52
tudorI may lose lots of customers09:52
_Matti understand09:52
_Matti am a system administrator for windows for my customers09:52
tudorI have those little "get the web back" banners09:52
tudorhere and there09:53
jpatricktudor: http://stopie.com/ :P09:53
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_Matti try to convert some users to linux! its ok for some old home users who only use there computers for internet09:54
_Mattbut for game users or power users, they stay with windows09:55
_Matthas anyone had any luck with converting 'normal users' to Kubuntu?09:56
tudorwell09:56
jpatrick_Matt: errr09:56
tudorand the university09:57
tudori`ve installed kubuntu on 20 computers09:57
tudoran entire lab09:57
tudormwhahahahaa09:57
tudorand set grub to boot from kubuntu after a one second delay09:58
_Mattthats cool - anyone had any luck with 'home users'?09:58
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jpatricktudor: haha09:58
tudoryes09:59
tudori work there 209:59
tudorpart time09:59
tudoras a Java instructor09:59
jpatrickI tried Java10:00
tudorand I can easy deploy what the students are doing10:00
tudorunder linux10:00
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jpatrickbut I think I'll stick to C++ and Python10:00
_Mattjpatrick - have you ever developed something for KDE?10:00
jpatrick_Matt: I'm working on that10:01
jpatrick_Matt: I'm a Kubuntu Developer (sort of)10:01
tudorjpatrick> i`m teaching java....10:01
_MattI've wrote a 'point of sale' program using VB.  I was wondering if I have a go at porting it to KDE10:02
tudori`m using php10:02
jpatrick_Matt: you'll have to make KDE & Qt bindings for it10:02
tudor_Matt> anything can be ported :)) given the right amout of time...10:02
jpatricktudor: people are working on Java and C# right now10:03
_Mattthats what I thought.  I didnt know if I should port my app or find a POS program in development and see if I can help10:03
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jpatrickI'm going, cya guys later10:04
_Mattcya jpatrick10:04
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lwizardlhow is pan for newsgroups?10:04
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_ariguys, I'm having problems upacking a .rar file with Ark, could someone help me?10:06
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_ariit says: "The utility unrar is not in your PATH / Please install it or contact your system administrator"10:08
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_arianyone?10:12
_ari:-/10:13
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SirKillalothey, I switched from gnome to KDE yesterday, as you can guess I'm not that familiar with that desktop.. well, how do I actually change themes of my panels here?10:15
SirKillalotcause one of the things I dont like on KDE are that blinky and shiny themes10:15
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seth_k|lappySirKillalot, right click on the panel and configure it10:16
_ariseth, any clue about what I should do?10:16
seth_k|lappy_ari, install unrar10:17
_arihow do I do that?10:17
seth_k|lappy_ari, open Adept and search for it10:17
SirKillalothow do I change the way of the application buttons in the task bar look?10:17
seth_k|lappySirKillalot, SystemSettings > Appearance > icons10:17
_ariAdept?10:17
SirKillalotthe buttons?10:17
SirKillalotare you sure?10:18
SirKillalotthe buttons for the running apps are too 3d for me10:18
seth_k|lappySirKillalot, the buttons like the K Menu and stuff? maybe I'm not understanding you10:18
seth_k|lappyohh10:18
seth_k|lappyright click on the panel10:18
spikehwhere are the fonts stored on Kubuntu?10:18
seth_k|lappyconfigure > taskbar > appearance10:18
SirKillalotare you not able to theme the panels?10:18
seth_k|lappySirKillalot, yes... you can choose a background image for it and change the button style10:19
_arisorry, I'm a complete newbie......what's Adept?10:20
apokryphos!adept10:20
ubotuAdept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html10:20
_ariwill Kynaptic be okay?10:20
apokryphosno10:20
apokryphos_ari: are you on Hoary?10:21
_ariI think so.......10:21
apokryphos_ari: cat /etc/issue  ...gives?10:21
spikehapokryphos: where are the fonts stored?10:21
SirKillalotseth_k|lappy, can I set something like a startup to configure the commands which shall be executed when I log on to KDE?10:22
_ariUbuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"10:22
apokryphosspikeh: system-wide in /usr/share/X11/fonts10:22
apokryphos_ari: do you have a good internet connection?10:22
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spikehthanks apokryphos10:22
_aricable for now10:22
_ariusually fiber optic10:22
apokryphos_ari: good enough; you might consider upgrading to the latest stable version of Ubuntu -- the Breezy Badger.10:23
meister_then install breezy10:23
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_ariwell, I just want to get unrar right now10:23
seth_k|lappySirKillalot, yes, put shell scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart10:23
_arican you tell me how to get it in my current situation?10:23
apokryphos_ari: enable the multiverse repository and install unrar-nonfree, then10:23
_arigreat10:23
_ariI have it enabled already10:23
apokryphosgo for it, then10:24
captain_petzmy k won't work10:24
captain_petzit says $DISPLAY not set10:24
apokryphoswhat did you do?10:24
captain_petzhappy new year everybody10:24
_arithere is "unrar" and "unrar-nonfree" I should go for nonfree, right?10:24
meister_same10:24
captain_petzi did apt-get upgrade10:24
apokryphos_ari: yup10:24
apokryphoscaptain_petz: breezy?10:24
captain_petzyap10:25
apokryphoscaptain_petz: what kde version?10:25
captain_petzsorry not sure10:25
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apokryphoscaptain_petz: kde-config --version10:25
_ariis that compatible with Ark, or is it seperate?10:25
apokryphosnot sure10:25
_arinevermind10:25
_ariit worked :D10:25
apokryphos_ari: I always just use the command:   unrar x somearchive.rar10:26
_arithanks guys :D10:26
captain_petzi have kde version 3.4.310:26
apokryphoscaptain_petz: you might consider upgrading to the latest stable version10:26
apokryphos!kde 3.510:26
ubotuit has been said that kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php10:26
nalioth<sigh> i might do it also. do they have ppc binaries yet?10:26
captain_petzcan I do that with apt-get10:26
naliothcaptain_petz: you can.10:27
apokryphosnalioth: I don't think so, unfortunately.10:27
nalioth<sigh>10:27
apokryphoshm, yeah, they don't10:27
apokryphosnalioth: amu used to make the ppc packs I believe, but he hasn't been around much.10:27
captain_petzwell, thats what I geht: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.10:27
apokryphoscaptain_petz: well, you didn't follow the instructions on thel ink I gave you10:28
naliothapokryphos: as soon as i can figure this damned pbuilding thing out, i'm gonna build the whole darned thing10:28
apokryphosno need to use pbuild as I said, but hey :P10:28
captain_petzapokryphos, link you gave me?10:28
apokryphosyes10:28
meister_captain_pet http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php10:28
captain_petzthanx every110:29
naliothapokryphos: why not do it and help the whole ppc community?10:29
Chousukehm10:29
Chousukekopete somehow bugs with the menu.10:29
apokryphosnalioth: because I don't have a ppc, I'd love to though 8)10:29
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ChousukeIf I try to browse the file menu, the "Settings" menu that is beneath the file menu in the toolbar gets selected10:30
apokryphosnalioth: you can do it without pbuild in like 4 commands (for each package)10:30
apokryphosok, maybe 5 or 6; I'm really rusty. I'd have to think about it.10:31
spikehapokryphos: I can't seem to find the right fonts there; where are fonts like Deja Vu stored?10:32
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naliothapokryphos: yes i have the build sequence for the whole 3.5 array10:32
apokryphosspikeh: ack; /usr/share/fonts probably10:32
spikehapokryphos: right, thank you :)10:32
captain_petzI shall better check if that helped10:32
naliothlet me go see about a pbuild10:32
apokryphosokily10:32
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petzhi everybody, I'm back and still Kde is unable to starup10:40
petzt10:40
apokryphospetz: what's the error?10:43
apokryphospetz: could you pastebin the whole error?10:43
petzhmm10:44
petzit's not there anymore after starting xfce isn't it10:44
apokryphosI guess not10:45
petzcan't connect kdeinit is one of them10:46
petzkdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/home/paddy/.ICEauthority'.10:47
petzWarning: connect() failed: : Permission denied10:47
petzThe following installation problem was detected10:47
petzwhile trying to start KDE:10:47
petz    No write access to '/home/paddy/.ICEauthority'.10:47
petzKDE is unable to start.10:47
petzXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server10:47
petzXlib: No protocol specified10:47
petzksmserver: cannot connect to X server :0.010:47
petzERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!10:47
petzstartkde: Shutting down...10:47
petzWarning: connect() failed: : Permission denied10:47
petzError: Can't contact kdeinit!10:47
petzstartkde: Running shutdown scripts...10:47
petzstartkde: Done.10:47
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naliothpetz: please read the /topic when you enter irc channels10:47
apokryphospetz: do not paste in here. Please read the /topic when you enter a channel.10:47
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naliothpetz: the /topic contains info that is important to know about how the channel works and other things10:48
apokryphospetz: sounds to me like you've been running   sudo {guiapplication}  which you specifically should NOT do.10:48
petzsorry guys10:48
apokryphospetz: enter this command:  sudo chown paddy:paddy -R /home/paddy10:49
naliothapokryphos: no no10:49
naliothpetz: no10:49
naliothpetz: rm ~/.ICEauthority should fix it right up10:49
apokryphosnalioth: they both would.10:49
naliothapokryphos: there is far too much chmodding goin on10:49
apokryphosno chmodding; only chowning10:50
apokryphosand it doesn't take that long -- you don't know how many things have been broken10:50
naliothapokryphos: .ICEauthority is rebuilt every start10:50
apokryphosand presuming that that was the only thing with altered permissions isn't a given10:50
petzso what do I do?10:50
naliothbut it can't be rebuilt if its set readonly (which sudo does) <this is a known issue way back to warty>10:50
naliothpetz: rm ~/.ICEauthority10:51
apokryphospetz: nalioth's might fix it, but it might not. No problem in trying his first, really.10:51
petzok you're great. sorry I was so hasty.10:51
petzthen what do I do? try restarting?10:51
naliothpetz: are you in a recovery mode now?10:51
apokryphostry running kde now, yes10:51
petzwell I'll have to leave x first. i don't know what a recovery mode is10:52
naliothare you in X now?10:52
petzpositive10:52
naliothinteresting10:52
petzwhy?10:52
naliothonce you remove that file, logging out and back in should fix you up10:52
petzok, give it a try. I'll be back10:53
slow-motionbbl maybe10:54
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naliothi prefer the simple fix over more complex ones10:54
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petzapokryphos, I'm back. the same errors10:56
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petznalioth, to u 210:56
petzwhich means $display not set10:56
apokryphospetz: I doubt you get the exact same error10:56
petzit looks very much the same10:57
petzand is only about 15 lines10:57
apokryphospetz: iceauthoriy again?10:57
petzno, the one I had before. isn't there a way to switch to the text-only session?10:58
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apokryphosctrl+alt+F110:58
apokryphos(probably)10:58
petzand back? ctrl-alt-f2?10:59
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naliothctrl-alt-f7 is the gui console10:59
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swimi find kde's themes lacking... in comparisson to say... gnome's just seem like gnome has much more variety... dunno... not meaning to bash... just considering11:01
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apokryphosswim: there are a zillion more themes for kde than there are for gnome11:02
sproingiethemes are just themes.  the good ones are usually for both11:02
apokryphos(comes with it being popular)11:02
Tm_Taye11:02
sproingiei got two words for why i prefer kde: file dialog11:02
Tm_Tsproingie: aye sir11:02
swimthemes means window deco, and style yes?11:02
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=== sproingie is pretty happy with plastik actually. it's like what the XP theme should have been had they not used a summer intern to create it
swimhehe11:03
=== Tm_T uses forky windeco (flatknifty mod of mine) and tiblit
swimive been an xfce user for awhile... kde user years and years ago... but i honestly cant find anything Im very happy about (win deco/ style wise) plus I like to have a uniform win-deco/style11:04
apokryphosTm_T: screeny?11:05
apokryphosQuite like knifty11:05
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Tm_Tyes11:05
Tm_Toh wait, apache is down11:05
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petzsorry guys but it's no good. it claims unability of connecting to kdeinit11:06
Tm_Tapokryphos: I only fixed settings thing and couple more small changes, not much to show actually11:06
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sproingiei tend to work inside a maximized web browser half the day, and the other half split between emacs and terminal11:07
sproingieso i actually can't bring myself to care what theme i use in the end11:07
sproingieor DE for that matter, tho it's nice to have a convenient DE when i want it11:07
petzi know just what you mean11:07
sproingiesometimes i fire up eclipse, also maximized of course.  that is its own theme11:08
petzsproingie, and I'm not gettin it11:08
sproingiesubtle works best for me11:08
petzwhazzat mean?11:09
_joshuahey can someone help me out with sources list11:09
_joshuai just reinstalled so i need a new one11:09
petzyou probably should be able to find one on some ubuntu forum. checked that out yet?11:10
sampanor you can customize one at source-o-matic11:10
sampan!easysources11:10
ubotuNot a clue, sampan11:10
nalioth!sources11:10
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:10
sampan!easysource11:10
ubotuI heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:10
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_joshuacool11:11
_joshuathanks guys11:11
_joshua:D11:11
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sampanyw :)11:11
petzwell with my kde prob, I get the error i first got, so installing the new version didnt help11:13
petzif i got that right, that is11:13
_joshuahey is http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic for kubuntu too yeh? i just use the breezy option right11:14
sampanyep, the repos are the same11:15
apokryphos_joshua: sure, but you might want to add kde 3.5 repository too (which isn't listed there)11:15
apokryphos!kde 3.511:15
uboturumour has it, kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php11:15
_joshuaok11:15
naliothapokryphos: pm?11:15
sampanapokryphos  the 3.5 repo is there on source-o-matic actually (just checked)11:16
apokryphosnalioth: eh?11:16
apokryphossampan: very interesting11:16
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apokryphosit was added; they'd need to enter the GPG command to get it to actually work though :/11:17
naliothapokryphos: you know anything about building source in a pbuilder that isnt in a repo?11:17
sampanheh ... can't have everything huh? :X11:17
apokryphosnalioth: never used pbuilder apart from when I first tried it which was about 10 mins.11:18
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_joshuaso can i use source o matic for 3.5 ?11:21
naliothjokele: no, visit the link above11:21
naliothubotu: tell _joshua about kde3.511:21
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_joshuagpg: no ultimately trusted keys found11:24
_joshuaOK11:24
_joshuahmm11:24
Chousukehm11:24
Chousukewhat's the hotkey for katapult?11:24
Hobbsee_joshua: try adding the key again?11:24
HobbseeChousuke: alt+space11:24
_joshuai dont know how :(11:24
sampanchousuke  alt-space here11:24
Chousukeah, indeed.11:24
ChousukeIt never indicated its existence when I launched it.11:25
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Chousukeand the manual page was not helpful11:25
Hobbsee!katapult11:25
ubotukatapult is, like, an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.11:25
petzhi, xfce has jsut crashed twice on me and k isn't working11:25
Hobbseethat has more info on it...11:25
petzwell it's something to do with kdeinit11:25
petzAND dcop11:26
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Hobbseepetz: try deleting the dcop files, .xauthority, and .icesomething from your home dir, and try again?11:26
Delvienhey guys anyone get VMware running in Dapper under 2.6.15-10-386 kernel?11:27
Hobbseei havent tried11:28
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_joshuahow do i get into my etc/apt/sources.list11:31
BoBBynano /etc/apt/sources.list11:31
petzuse an editor, nano or kate11:31
BoBByor vi :)11:31
_joshuait wont open it with Kate11:32
sampankdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:32
petzwell, I usually nano it11:32
sampanor sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list11:32
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ari_guys, Kynaptic won't let me update Wine, could someone help me out?11:33
apokryphoskynaptic sucks; upgrade to breezy11:33
petzHobbsee, can't rm .xauthority, no such file11:34
ari_how do I upgrade to Breezy?11:34
Hobbseepetz: .Xauthority11:34
Hobbsee!+upgrade2breezy11:34
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:34
Hobbseeari_: ^11:34
petzHobbsee, what about Xauthority-c and -l11:35
Hobbseehmmm...i dont have those files11:35
Hobbseei know that you have to get rid of .ICEauthority along with the dcop ones - maybe you dont need to delete the other11:36
_joshuaubuto: tell _joshua about restricted formats11:36
petzI can't find any of the dcop files11:36
_joshuaheh11:36
_joshuatell me ubuto :p11:36
petzyah it's ok11:37
_joshuaubuto: tell _joshua about Restricted Formats11:37
petzHobbsee, what about can't contact kdeinit11:37
Hobbseegoogle it11:38
Hobbseei guess11:38
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petzHobbsee, anyone, what's qt package? read something in some linuxquestions.org11:41
Hobbseeqt is the engine that kde is built on11:41
Hobbseethere are lots of qt packages...11:41
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ari_guys, kate keeps krashing on me :(11:42
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Hobbseeari_: try using kwrite instead11:43
ari_okay11:43
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_joshuahmm11:45
_joshuai have just reinstalled and now everything seems really slow and the letter m is very odd looking11:46
_joshua:(11:46
_joshuaheh11:46
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xstkde3.5 is out for kubuntu - but is it still unstable or is it safe to upgrade (using breezy)?11:50
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naliothxst: it is safe. (safe as anything else, anyway)11:53
xstok, thanks11:53
petzdoes anyone know the forum experts-exchange?11:55
petzI've found a post with exaclty my problem but I can't view the solution11:55
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ShadymanMoo11:57
ShadymanHow goes, all?11:57
xstIn http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 I don't understand this sencence: "The packages are being uploaded to Dapper, many packages in Dapper are currently uninstallable due to a c++ transition." What is Dapper and should I worry that many packages are uninstallable?11:57
ShadymanDapper is the new version of Ubuntu that they're working on.11:57
xstSo I shouldn't worry, running breezy?11:59
Shadymanxst: Exactly.11:59
xstCool11:59
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ShadymanThey're just saying that not a lot of things work in Dapper yet.11:59
Danl[1] has anyone heard of a livecd causing a drive to become unreadable, even after the livecd is removed?12:00
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ShadymanDanl[1] : Only if the lens in the drive was bad12:00
ShadymanDanl[1] : Or the connection became unconnected12:00
Danl[1] sorry, let me clarify, the livecd caused the hdd to stop working12:01
ShadymanOh. Unless you mounted the hard drive and used a partition program, no.12:01
Danl[1] thats what i thought to, but a friend used the livecd and now bios doesn't see the hdd12:01
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Danl[1] I never had a problem out of the livecd or the install cd... but ya know12:02
Danl[1] wanted to ask :-)12:02
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ShadymanOK :)12:02
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