[12:05] <Stormx3> I wonder what 6.10 will be called...
[12:05] <Stormx3> I want Perky Penguin =)
[12:05] <xwolf-> what was Hoary?
[12:05] <Stormx3> 66% of kubuntu-desktop downloaded.
[12:05] <ggilbert> Hedgehog
[12:05] <xwolf-> oh.
[12:05] <Milktea> I wan't Perky Pandaren
[12:05] <Milktea> want*
[12:06] <Stormx3> Dapper Drake is a crap name >_<
[12:06] <ggilbert> hehe. I like it
[12:06] <Stormx3> I don't
[12:06] <Milktea> I would rather have Energizing Enchilada
[12:06] <Stormx3> 70%... come onnn baby
[12:06] <Milktea> I'm upgrading to KDE 3.5 atm
[12:06] <Milktea> ><
[12:06] <Stormx3> kinda a mouthfull =)
[12:07] <ggilbert> What's wrong with dapper drake?
[12:07] <Milktea> Was there an aardvark yet?
[12:07] <Stormx3> It just sounds kinda >,< bad
[12:08] <Stormx3> But hmm... How could I find out my motherboard model?
[12:08] <Stormx3> My internet is going insane... hmm.
[12:08] <nalioth> Stormx3: if you're lucky, in a konsole type "sudo lshw" if not, you'll have to open 'er up and go exploring
[12:09] <Stormx3> o.O
[12:09] <Stormx3> lots of info
[12:10] <Milktea> :<
[12:10] <Milktea>        physical id: 0
[12:10] <Milktea> what does that mean?
[12:10] <Milktea> in lshw
[12:10] <nalioth> Milktea: means what it says.
[12:10] <Stormx3> http://pastebin.ca/35466 Thats the relivent Motherboard info
[12:11] <Milktea> ok
[12:11] <cortez_> is there a way to remove that (stupid) image in the logout/shutdown dialogue?
[12:11] <Milktea> For some reason, firefox has been adding file extensions on top of downloaded files
[12:11] <Milktea> like demo.mpg.mpg
[12:11] <Stormx3> 91% of kubuntu-desktop downloaded =)
[12:13] <Stormx3> Meh. Motherboard was made by a taiwan company. Yay
[12:13] <tarmath> right now there doesnt seem to be any way to know what are the /etc/group groups meaning using kubuntu, from ubuntu however the program doing the user management shows what each group actually does.
[12:14] <tarmath> ive been looking for documentation on this as I do not know what every group means but there doesnt seem to have any
[12:16] <stefano> tarmath: no success with the german stuff?
[12:16] <stefano> they are kinda a standard-lookup-site for german linux users
[12:17] <tarmath> its not there
[12:17] <Stormx3> Installing kubuntu now =)
[12:17] <stefano> mh. too bad
[12:17] <stefano> have fun Stormx3
[12:18] <Stormx3> All I can find are french manuals on the company's website. uhg
[12:19] <Milktea> Babelfish?
[12:19] <Stormx3> pfft
[12:20] <karvr> can anyone see this typing???
[12:20] <nalioth> karvr: no we can not
[12:20] <karvr> lol k thx
[12:21] <Stormx3> ;-) Always worth a shot nalioth
[12:22] <Stormx3> Yay kubuntu is installed
[12:27] <Stormx3> Heres the memory support on my motherboard:   3 184-pin DDR DIMM sockets - Supports PC1600 DDR or PC2100 DDR SDRAM - Supports up to 3GB DRAM (Max) - Supports only 2.5V DDR SDRAM - Supports 64bit ECC type DRAM integrity mode
[12:27] <Blissex> Stormx3: thats pretty good.
[12:27] <Blissex> Stormx3: AMD 760 chipset base mobo probably.
[12:28] <troth> this sucks i cant find a wireless card that is linux compatible
[12:28] <Milktea> How do I run a .run file?
[12:29] <Chousuke> use sh
[12:29] <Chousuke> sh file.run
[12:29] <Stormx3> Blissex: I have about 55 at the moment, and I want some RAM thats worthwhile. I can borrow a little more from my rents i'd imagine. What do you think I should buy?
[12:29] <Milktea> thanks
[12:29] <Blissex> Stormx3: more info please, what you got already etc.
[12:30] <Blissex> Stormx3: and what your system looks like in  general. With 55 you can get quite a bit of RAM BTW
[12:30] <Stormx3> Blissex: I have 256mb of ram, I have no idea what type, though. Should I find out?
[12:30] <Blissex> Stormx3: it can only be of the type you listed above.
[12:30] <Blissex> Stormx3: so it is already not a problem.
[12:30] <Milktea> How would I run a .bin file? The same way?
[12:30] <Blissex> Stormx3: what does the rest of your system look like?
[12:30] <Stormx3> os[Linux 2.6.12-10-386 i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+ @ 1.40GHz]  mem[Physical : 250MB, 31.5% free]  disk[Total : 110.84GB, 14.50% Free]  video[10de:002d]  sound[ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI] 
[12:31] <Stormx3> its not getting the video card properly >_<
[12:31] <Lord_Athur> hi
[12:32] <Milktea> How would I run a .bin file? The same way?
[12:32] <Draken> bin are run like so
[12:32] <Draken> sh moocow.bin
[12:32] <Stormx3> Blissex: What are your thoughts?
[12:32] <Milktea> thanks
[12:33] <troth> before i install windows is there any wireless cards that work with kubuntu?
[12:34] <Milktea> Argh
[12:34] <Milktea> Extraction failed.
[12:34] <Milktea> :<
[12:34] <Stormx2> Milktea: What are you trying to run?
[12:34] <Blissex> Stormx3: well, a bit of extra memory would help indeed.
[12:34] <Milktea> ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.20.8
[12:34] <Blissex> Stormx3: I have got a similar system with 512Mb and it is a lot better than with 256MB.
[12:35] <Stormx2> Blissex: Right. So what RAM should I get, and how much do you think it would cost?
[12:35] <Blissex> Stormx3: all you need is to get another stick, say 512MB DDR 2100 RAM, and you are sorted, and that would cost around 30-35
[12:35] <Stormx2> Wow thats cheap!
[12:36] <apokryphos> sounds expensive; we get them here for 20 or so
[12:36] <Stormx2> So I would have 768mb ram?
[12:36] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Heh =) What did you think he said
[12:37] <Milktea> Stormx2: :<?
[12:37] <Milktea> ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.20.8
[12:37] <apokryphos> about usb keys; skim reading can be lethal.
[12:38] <Stormx2> What does this "2100" number mean? Im seeing things like PC3200, etc.
[12:38] <Blissex> Stormx2: are you thinking of upgrading the motherboard soon?
[12:38] <Blissex> Stormx2: PC2100 is a lower speed grade than PC3200.
[12:38] <Stormx2> Blissex: How much would that cost?
[12:39] <Blissex> Stormx2: now a higher speed grade is compatible with a lower speed mobo, but not viceversa.
[12:39] <Blissex> Stormx2: so perhaps you should just get a PC3200 instead of PC2100, so you don't throw it away when you upgrade the mobo.
[12:40] <Blissex> Stormx2: BTW, your mobo is pretty decent as it is. It would make only sense to upgrade it when you can afford a new CPU too.
[12:40] <fatejudger> what is up with Konqueror lately?
[12:40] <fatejudger> it seems like it crashes all the time now for no reason whatsoever
[12:40] <namai> labas
[12:41] <Blissex> fatejudger: same here with 3.5
[12:42] <Blissex> Stormx2: have a look here: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=14684611192&action=&product_uid=49447
[12:46] <Stormx2> Blissex: All the reviewers are saying that doesn't run at 400mhz, but I'm guessing that doesn't apply to me as I'm at 1.4ghz?
[12:46] <Draken> err, can someone help me get to higher resolutions ?
[12:46] <Draken> i cant get over 1024x768
[12:47] <Blissex> Stormx2: the CPU freq and the RAM freq are completely different things.
[12:48] <Stormx2> !xorg
[12:48] <ubotu> well, xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:48] <Stormx2> ^^ Draken ^^
[12:48] <Draken> ya
[12:48] <Draken> but wat do i set
[12:48] <Stormx2> Blissex: okay then.
[12:48] <Draken> so i can get higher
[12:48] <Blissex> Stormx2: this is the same but much better brand: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?product_uid=48122
[12:49] <Blissex> Draken: usually the top horiz sync is too low if you can't get higher.
[12:49] <Stormx2> Draken: Put that command into terminal
[12:49] <Stormx2> Draken: Keep hitting enter till you get to the resolutions bit
[12:49] <Stormx2> then press space on all the resolutions you know your monitor can support
[12:50] <Draken> ahh thanks
[12:51] <fatejudger> Blissex: it's silly that they haven't come out with a fix
[12:51] <fatejudger> Blissex: I thought it was flash or kaffeine or something
[12:51] <fatejudger> Blissex: but it isn't
[12:52] <Blissex> fatejudger: eventually... Moreover it can be a system dependent issue.
[12:52] <root> cool ta
[12:54] <Draken> does anyone know a good download manager
[12:54] <Draken> like getright
[12:58] <seth_k|lappy> Kget?
[12:59] <seth_k|lappy> KGET is a a download manager similar to GetRight or Go!zilla. It keeps all your downloads in one dialog and you can add and remove transfers. Transfers can be paused, resumed, queued or scheduled.
[12:59] <seth_k|lappy> ^ from the package info
[01:04] <Stormx2> how do I remove kubuntu?
[01:04] <Stormx2> ;-)
[01:05] <Milktea> Remove, as in delete the partition
[01:05] <Milktea> or Remove, as in remove KDE
[01:06] <Stormx2> the kde package isn't installed >.<
[01:06] <Stormx2> I have kubuntu-desktop installed, and that installed a whole host of other packages
[01:07] <Milktea> I'm guessing you manually uninstall them?
[01:08] <Milktea> :<
[01:08] <ggilbert> remove libqt3-mt and some miscellaneous packages
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> hi there
[01:11] <_ubuntu> suppitie sup
[01:16] <Lord_Athur> hi there
[01:18] <Milktea> mmk
[01:28] <TheSpawn> holz
[01:34] <Athur> hey
[01:35] <Athur> I've got a problem mountting a file : initrd
[01:35] <Athur> I've copied the problem here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[01:35] <Athur> can anybody help me?
[01:36] <TheSpawn> parece que nadie anda por aca
[01:36] <Athur> TheSpawn,
[01:37] <Athur> este canal es espaol o ingls?
[01:37] <Athur> is the channel spanish or English??
[01:37] <Athur> no cacho
[01:37] <apokryphos> !es
[01:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:38] <neoncode> My amarok won't work... When I launch it, it shows it's splash screen, then the splash screen goes and then the amaroK icon shows up in the system tray for about a second then it closes...
[01:38] <Athur> then
[01:38] <Athur> have anydoby seen my problem?
[01:38] <apokryphos> neoncode: what version, and any error messages?
[01:39] <Tm_T> neoncode: run it from konsole and look at the output
[01:39] <Tm_T> and yes, tell the version
[01:39] <TheSpawn> ah ok, nos vamos a kubuntu-es entonces :D
[01:39] <Athur> pesquen po
[01:39] <Athur> !!
[01:39] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[01:39] <ubotu> ??
[01:39] <kinfo> i don't understand.
[01:39] <neoncode> apokryphos: Latest. .7 something I think. I carn't rember. and no errors when I run it from KDE but in konsole it gives an error. I'll use adept to get the version and I'll pastebin the konsole output
[01:40] <neko> I'm running 32bit kubuntu on a Turion64 laptop, and have noticed that the clock's running at double speed
[01:40] <neko> anyone know what that's about?
[01:40] <neoncode> output@ http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/486584
[01:41] <neoncode> version is: 1.3.7
[01:41] <neoncode> It's a repo version. not a compiled one.
[01:41] <apokryphos> neoncode: curious. Was it working fine before?
[01:43] <neoncode> apokryphos: Well I think it crashed after my update to KDE 3.5 but. I recently make useraccounts on this same machene for a couple of my friends and amarok worked fine on those. and I've tryed deleteing "/home/neoncode/.kde/apps/amarok" no luck...
[01:43] <apokryphos> neoncode: try cd ~/.kde/share/config && mv amarokrc amarokrc_old
[01:43] <Tm_T> hmm, maybe removing all amarok settings might help...
[01:43] <Tm_T> apokryphos: damn, faster
[01:44] <apokryphos> 8)
[01:44] <neoncode> Out of intrest... what does "&&" do anyway?
[01:44] <Tm_T> neoncode: do after success
[01:44] <Tm_T> 1 && 2 = run 1 and if ti goes ok, then run 2
[01:45] <neoncode> Ooooo... usefull...
[01:45] <Tm_T> if not, 2 won't be run at all
[01:45] <Tm_T> yes it is
[01:45] <Tm_T> I use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:45] <Tm_T> for example
[01:45] <neoncode> ok I did that.
[01:45] <neoncode> right try to run amarok again right?
[01:45] <Tm_T> neoncode: now run amarok again
[01:45] <apokryphos> yup
[01:45] <Tm_T> yes
[01:45] <Tm_T> :)
[01:46] <Tm_T> ok, off again, ping if you need me ->
[01:46] <neoncode> ok... this time it showed the amarok window... then crashed.... that's *some* progress...
[01:46] <apokryphos> neoncode: konsole give the same output?
[01:46] <neoncode> yup
[01:47] <neoncode> oh and it crashes in the new place consistantly now....
[01:47] <apokryphos> very weird
[01:47] <Steven_M> Hi, I need help from an aptitude user please.
[01:49] <apokryphos> neoncode: standard procedure if it doesn't work with a new share/apps/amarok/ directory and a new rc is to make a bugreport. I'm pretty stumped, tbh.
[01:50] <apokryphos> neoncode: maybe wake up Tm_T again though to see if he has any other ideas 8)
[01:50] <neoncode> How does one wake him/her up?
[01:50] <neoncode> Oh sorry you said he there...
[01:50] <apokryphos> !lart Tm_T
[01:50] <neoncode> Hey they braught lart back!
[01:51] <apokryphos> yup
[01:51] <neoncode> yay
[01:51] <Tm_T> noooooo
[01:52] <neoncode> Hey... I just looked in ~/.kde/share/config/ and amarok did not make a new amarokrc file....
[01:52] <Tm_T> hmm
[01:53] <Tm_T> how about apt-get install --reinstall amarok
[01:53] <apokryphos> that's interesting
[01:53] <neoncode> ok... reinstall
[01:53] <Tm_T> or first purge it
[01:53] <neoncode> oh one more thing
[01:53] <Tm_T> apokryphos: life is interesting
[01:54] <neoncode> when I run amarok from konsole and it prints it's error it stalls. I don't get back to my command prompt...
[01:54] <apokryphos> yup, apps do that when they don't crash properly :P
[01:54] <apokryphos> KCrash lags behind!
[01:54] <neoncode> There's a "proper" way to crash?
[01:54] <sampan> can you file a bug report for an improper crash too?
[01:54] <apokryphos> neoncode: yes, using KCrash ;-)
[01:54] <neoncode> lol
[01:55] <neoncode> How do I file a bug report then?
[01:55] <Tm_T> sampan: sure, crash is crash
[01:55] <apokryphos> neoncode: do the purge and then reinstall first
[01:55] <neoncode> "purge"?
[01:55] <apokryphos> sampan: yes, but you'll be subject to public flogging
[01:55] <apokryphos> neoncode: it's an apt-get option
[01:55] <Tm_T> apt-get remove --purge amarok
[01:55] <Tm_T> or do I remember wrong
[01:55] <apokryphos> nope, correct
[01:55] <neoncode> It just finished apt-get --reinstall...
[01:56] <sampan> pffffffft public flogging!  as long as the bugs get fixed it's all worth it!
[01:56] <neoncode> and amarok.... does not work... ok purge this time...
[01:56] <Tm_T> sampan: yes, if it's bug and not just borked ...
[01:56] <neoncode> What does purge *do* exacly?
[01:56] <ggilbert> It removes config files
[01:56] <Tm_T> neoncode: remove entirely, including configs
[01:57] <sampan> tm_t  there's a difference?  you computer guys and your specialized vocabulary
[01:57] <sampan> ;)
[01:57] <Tm_T> sampan: you know, if it's bug, it's in code, if it's just borked, then it's your binary...
[01:57] <neoncode> so it just nukes amarok
[01:57] <neoncode> sweet..
[01:57] <Tm_T> and sour
[01:57] <Tm_T> ...ok =)
[01:57] <Tm_T> tea <3
[01:58] <neoncode> tea!
[01:58] <apokryphos> dang, I miss a nice Chinese sweet n' sour
[01:58] <Tm_T> !tea
[01:58] <ubotu> Tm_T: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:58] <apokryphos> sounds like time for .......KTeaTime
[01:58] <sampan> tm_t  ahhh, gotcha ... it's all becoming clear ;x
[01:58] <Tm_T> ubotu: sure it is
[01:58] <ubotu> Tm_T: Are you smoking crack?
[01:58] <ggilbert> In the case of mysql, I believe purge also removes any databases you had configured
[01:58] <Tm_T> ubotu: ssshhh
[01:58] <ubotu> No idea, Tm_T
[01:58] <apokryphos> ubotu: kteatime is my favourite application
[01:58] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[01:58] <neoncode> so after purge just a standard apt-get install amarok right?
[01:58] <apokryphos> yup
[01:58] <Tm_T> neoncode: yes
[01:59] <neoncode> god bless a fast internet connection and compression :)
[01:59] <Tm_T> hmmm, roulette...
[02:00] <neoncode> ok installed... it still crashes..
[02:00] <apokryphos> bug report it is
[02:00] <neoncode> !lart amarok
[02:00] <Tm_T> neoncode: #amarok then, at first
[02:00] <apokryphos> I love ubotu's elegance
[02:00] <neoncode> And how do I file this bug report then?
[02:01] <apokryphos> Tm_T: I'd have recommended that, except I've had 0 help on my last 50 questions there, probably
[02:01] <apokryphos> ok, bit of an exaggeration -- I'd say 3
[02:01] <neoncode> Tm_T: Should I go and complain/rant/beg for help in #amarok?
[02:06] <Steil> amaroK isn't finding my ipod, is there anything I can do to fix this?
[02:07] <apokryphos> Steil: pressing "connect" doesn't bring it up?
[02:07] <apokryphos> make sure it's mounted under /media/ipod or /mnt/ipod
[02:08] <Steil> It's mounted under /media/ipod
[02:09] <Steil> amaroK just gives me "Could not find device, please mount it and try again"
[02:16] <Steven_M> Is it  possible to set apt-get to use a different source list other than /etc/apt/sources.list for one particular user?
[02:16] <apokryphos> nope
[02:29] <swim> anyone know of an install script or debs for e17?
[02:33] <Patry> anybody can help with a gcc error? whenever I try to ./configure I get:
[02:33] <Patry> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:33] <Patry> See `config.log' for more details.
[02:39] <caglar> how can I change my standard mail client and web browser in KDE?
[02:41] <`Nomad> Hi all, I wish you all a happy new year, and thanks for all the help! :)
[02:53] <Knowerrors> Anyone know how to get the Kubuntu Human cursor them to be used in programs like Firefox as well?
[02:54] <seth_k|lappy> Knowerrors, yeah... lemme find it on the forums for you
[02:55] <seth_k|lappy> Knowerrors, kdesu kate /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[02:55] <seth_k|lappy> and add these two lines:
[02:55] <seth_k|lappy>  [Icon Theme] 
[02:55] <seth_k|lappy> Inherits=kubuntu
[02:56] <Knowerrors> thx seth_k|lappy :)
[02:56] <Knowerrors> you saved me some precious bandwith, my 28.8 connection is slower than usual due to wet phone lines
[03:01] <swim> anyone know of an install script or debs for e17?
[03:04] <seth_k|lappy> swim, there's a guide on the forums. I'll find that for you
[03:05] <seth_k|lappy> swim, from CVS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199
[03:06] <seth_k|lappy> swim, latest stable from .deb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155
[03:12] <douglas> Holy shit, I just downloaded firefox 1.5 from get firefox, went to homestarrunner and it said I need the flash plugin, I told it to install it and it actually worked
[03:14] <sophie_> anyone know when firefoxxy 1.5 is going to be part of the repo
[03:16] <tb77> anyone installed tellico in breezy with kde 3.5?
[03:17] <Knowerrors> !trash
[03:17] <ubotu> Knowerrors: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:17] <Knowerrors> no ubotu, I smoke some laced product
[03:18] <Knowerrors> Anyone know how to make the trash can appear on the desktop?
[03:19] <apokryphos> Knowerrors: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#showtrash
[03:21] <Knowerrors> thx apokryphos
[03:24] <DaSkreech> So let me get this straight
[03:24] <DaSkreech> *buntu comes in a packed series?
[03:24] <DaSkreech> Of which Dapper is the last>
[03:24] <DaSkreech> ?
[03:26] <Riddell> DaSkreech: ubuntu and kubuntu are released every 6 months, they have version numbers and code names, dapper is the code name for 6.04 which will be released in april
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Understood
[03:27] <DaSkreech> Riddell: sabdfl mentioned something about dapper being the last in a series though
[03:27] <Riddell> oh, that's just artwork for ubuntu stuff
[03:27] <DaSkreech> That it was possible that the brown would not return after Dapper since it would be a new series
[03:27] <DaSkreech> So it's only artwork stuff that counts as
[03:28] <DaSkreech> interface essentially?
[03:28] <Riddell> yes
[03:28] <ecarroll> Without moving to dopper.
[03:28] <ecarroll> err
[03:28] <DaSkreech> doper?
[03:28] <DaSkreech> :)
[03:28] <kkathman> lol
[03:28] <ecarroll> Is there an archive that has postgres 8.1, without moving to dopper.
[03:28] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Ok Cool that clears up a lot :)
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Those aren't even close to each other
[03:30] <Knowerrors> anybody notice flashplugin-nonfree seeming to not work as well as flashplayer-mozilla?
[03:30] <DaSkreech> So what would it take to get an unstable product into Universe?
[03:30] <psyk> what if i want to play Windows games on kubuntu?
[03:31] <DaSkreech> psyk: cedega
[03:38] <Knowerrors> apokryphos: that didn't work :(
[03:47] <DaSkreech> Is Kubuntu going to hide the admin options from the users who are sudo-less?
[04:06] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with flashplugin-nonfree, it installs but doesn't show up in firefox?
[04:11] <xwolf-> Knowerrors macromedia has a step-by-step tutorial on how to install it
[04:12] <xwolf-> macromedia.com
[04:12] <xwolf-> afk now
[04:14] <psyk> how do i connect to EFnet?
[04:16] <psyk> nevermind
[04:48] <RichardC> hey everybody
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hi RichardC
[04:48] <kkathman> hi RichardC
[04:49] <RichardC> im having a hard time mounting an extra ext2 partition
[04:49] <douglas> I just used gtk-theme-switch to change my gtk1 font and style, and it previewed correctly, but when I opened an application that uses gtk1 (openrpg-client) it didn't use my new font and size. How do I make programs adopt the new fonts?
[04:49] <RichardC> i use it, with an ext2 driver for windows, to share files between windows and linux
[04:50] <Hobbsee> !mount
[04:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:50] <RichardC> but i cant seem to get linux to allow me to write to the partition unless im root
[04:50] <Hobbsee> what's the line in your /etc/fstab that relates to the new partition?
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Oh
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Since we are on the subject
[04:51] <DaSkreech> Why would Kubuntu deny me access to a NTFS drive?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: as root, or at all?
[04:52] <Hobbsee> use a umask=000, and make sure you have "ro" in there
[04:52] <DaSkreech> I can sudo and ls it
[04:52] <DaSkreech> it is ro
[04:52] <DaSkreech> It's locked though
[04:52] <DaSkreech> I think that the installer threw up a lost linked file error
[04:53] <userathei> anyone ever compile a nvidia driver for xorg ??
[04:53] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,ro,user,umask=000 0       0 <-- modify that to suit your system
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Is there some scan I can run to see if there is a dirty file system
[04:53] <Hobbsee> but that works, so that the user can view, but not write...
[04:58] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: got no idea, but doesnt it check every 30 mounts anyway?
[04:58] <RichardC> does it matter what order i put the fstab entries in?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Plus I Hardly shut down
[04:59] <Hobbsee> RichardC: no, dont think so
[05:00] <Hobbsee> just dont stick one place to mount to two locations, or similar
[05:00] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ah, that's true
[05:06] <Delvien> Anyone have an idea where to get the firefox and Thunderbird  icons in http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/26448-1.jpg ??
[05:13] <Hobbsee> Delvien: it wouldnt be in the nuveola set would it?  seeing as that's what the screenshot's about?
[05:14] <RichardC> anyone know how to add new locations to the kde system menu?
[05:18] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with the flashplugin-nonfree?  Synaptic says its installed, but plugins files don't show up where they say theyre installed
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet
[05:24] <DaSkreech> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1715
[05:24] <xtacocorex> Knowerrors: in konqueror, go to your /home/<user>/Desktop, right click on trash.desktop and then go to open, use kate to edit the file, the line that says hidden=true, change to false
[05:25] <xtacocorex> Knowerrors: sorry, got messed up while being away
[05:35] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: looks very cool!
[05:38] <torkel> I installed kubuntu the other day here, been using linux for several years (1996)
[05:38] <torkel> I must say im impressed!
[05:38] <torkel> keep up the good work!
[05:43] <darmou> How come amerok crashes on startup?
[05:43] <darmou> with breezy badger?
[05:44] <Hobbsee> darmou: which kde version?
[05:45] <darmou> Sorry Hobbsee how do I find out teh version I'm using I'm new to kde
[05:45] <Knowerrors> hmm, Adobe aquired Macromedia it seems, or merged
[05:47] <Hobbsee> darmou: in a konsole, konversation --version
[05:47] <darmou> KDE: 3.4.3
[05:47] <darmou> thanks
[05:48] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[05:49] <darmou> when I launch amarok from konsole I get GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate 2855404145 bytes
[05:49] <darmou> don't know if that help
[05:50] <Hobbsee> you might want to ask this in #amarok if you get no answer here - i dont know sorry
[05:50] <darmou> thanks anyway
[05:52] <m_tadeu> has anyone tryed x11r7?
[06:04] <freelove> how do i change the look of VLC media player?
[06:31] <RichardC> how do i change to default resolution of the kde login screen?
[06:41] <the_padawan> hello all
[06:44] <Hobbsee> hi the_padawan
[06:44] <the_padawan> have you any experience with 64 bit kubuntu?
[06:45] <atlantis> im trying to install 64 bit kubuntu, and i get to a point, after you take out the CD it will give me this message.  Kernel Panic - Not Syncing: Aiee, Killing interrupt handler.  has anyone seen this happen before?
[06:46] <Hobbsee> nope, no clue, sorry
[06:50] <RichardC> google?
[06:50] <RichardC> http://lists.debian.org/debian-sparc/2005/05/msg00002.html
[06:50] <RichardC> that might be it
[06:52] <atlantis> tried google... that post doesnt have a reply... i get the same
[06:52] <atlantis> error with debian
[06:54] <XiCillin> does anyone have skype on kubuntu 64?
[06:54] <the_padawan> does anyone have a working mplayer on kubuntu 64
[06:55] <XiCillin> how working?
[06:55] <the_padawan> you tell me
[06:56] <the_padawan> can it play wmv files?
[06:56] <the_padawan> or dvds
[06:56] <the_padawan> or mpegs or avis
[06:56] <XiCillin> i dont' think you are able to cus non are 64-bit
[06:56] <XiCillin> i'm going to try doing it now
[06:56] <XiCillin> is there an mplayer 64?
[06:56] <the_padawan> not in synaptic
[06:56] <the_padawan> i don't know actually
[06:57] <the_padawan> it's been a while since i used it, and i stopped becuase i was unable to get videos to play
[06:57] <the_padawan> and now i'm curious if it's ready
[06:57] <XiCillin> i heard it because of the codecs
[06:58] <jsgotangco> hey guys
[06:58] <XiCillin> " wmv9 files don't work in Ubuntu 64bit)"
[06:58] <XiCillin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75278
[06:58] <jsgotangco> is there a way to go around that system settings bug in network settings?
[06:59] <the_padawan> hmm
[06:59] <the_padawan> some googling reveals xvid.org
[06:59] <the_padawan> which has a 64bit linux port
[07:00] <the_padawan> all right this looks good
[07:00] <the_padawan> i think i'm going to try linux again =)
[07:04] <XiCillin> the_padawan: i'm reading a guide right now, its using totem or xine and playing everything cept wmv9 files
[07:05] <the_padawan> XiCillin: is the the link you sent me earlier? i am reading that as well
[07:05] <XiCillin> yea
[07:05] <the_padawan> let me know how it goes for uyo
[07:05] <the_padawan> are you trying it?
[07:06] <XiCillin> yea
[07:06] <XiCillin> downloading codecs now
[07:10] <XiCillin> xine is buggy it seems
[07:17] <the_padawan> what file formats are you trying to play?
[07:18] <RichardC> what's a good ftp client?
[07:18] <RichardC> one that's simple
[07:18] <RichardC> i dont care bout features
[07:18] <RichardC> just useability
[07:18] <RichardC> about
[07:18] <RichardC> erm..
[07:19] <crimsun> could you be any less vague?
[07:19] <RichardC> im getting KBear right now
[07:19] <RichardC> but i've got no idea if its good or not
[07:19] <RichardC> heh
[07:19] <RichardC> what is a good ftp client for kde?
[07:19] <RichardC> loads of features arent neccessary
[07:20] <RichardC> ease of use is
[07:20] <crimsun> konqueror?
[07:20] <RichardC> /blush
[07:21] <RichardC> woops!
[07:52] <_tobias> morning.
[07:54] <billh> Everytime I load cbsnews.com konqueror crashes.
[07:54] <billh> What's going on with that ? am I missing something or should I remove some package that isn't compatible with it ?
[07:55] <crimsun> not reproducible here
[07:55] <billh> crimsun talking to me ?
[07:55] <billh> yeah, It's been this way since the first days of installing Debian unstable for amd64
[07:55] <billh> This is an amd64 machine BTW
[07:58] <_tobias> I got a strange problem. If I run Synaptic (GTK+ app) from Konsole, it use the Qt style/theme. But when I run it from the KDE menu, it looks all ugly and dont use the Qt style/theme.... why.? =(
[08:00] <billh> Have people been running into this problem as well under AMD64 ?
[08:12] <crimsun> billh: I haven't, but that's no indicator of existence
[08:13] <DjDarkman> hy ,i need a media player for shoutcast ,cause amarok always freezes
[09:12] <Jae> Installed kubuntu today... it's freezing when I try to start it after I reboot from the installer. It's hanging on "configuring network adapters"... probably something to do with the fact that I have both a Dlink 510 Wireless (b/g) and a RealTek 10/100T wired card installed... any ideas? Besides taking one out.
[09:13] <Jae> During install, it couldn't detect the network, so I manually fed it an IP address.
[09:13] <Jae> I gave it 192.168.0.100
[09:19] <rohan> hi all
[09:19] <rohan> anyone has packages for kubuntu available, for the latest version of "lipstik" ?
[09:26] <fridge> http://hovil.customer.netspace.net.au/kaffeine.png
[09:26] <fridge> I can't figure out why the channels are greyed out in Kaffeine
[09:27] <fridge> if it can detect the channels, I'm not sure why it can't play them :(
[09:27] <Jae> I think we're all more or less just asking the wind at this point.
[09:28] <macximian> Anyone care to help a mac user connect to kubuntu
[09:28] <macximian> filesharing says 'could not read nfs config"'
[09:29] <macximian> Also my  mac isn't able to see  my kubuntu install on the  network... any ideas
[09:31] <Jae> Uuuhm... what's the Mac running?
[09:32] <macximian> tiger 10.4
[09:32] <Jae> Okay, that's a good start. Any other computers in the network?
[09:32] <macximian> no others
[09:33] <Jae> Hmm. That makes it harder.
[09:33] <macximian> I can connect to my mac using ssh from console window but thats all jae
[09:34] <NCLife> is there a new version of k3b, other than the one in the kubuntu repository
[09:34] <NCLife> ?
[09:34] <Jae> I see. Hmm... I've only ever really put a Mac into a Windows network... never a Linux network.
[09:34] <macximian> same here jae
[09:34] <Jae> I'd assume they'd run fairly parallel, though...
[09:34] <Jae> It may sound stupid, but you might try setting both to using the Windows network.
[09:34] <Jae> Other than that, I don't have my Mac at hand right now, so I couldn't suggest anything helpful.
[09:34] <macximian> you'd think so since 10.4 is bsd underneath the prettyness
[09:35] <macximian> i shared a file using SMB but still nothing
[09:35] <macximian> folder i mean
[09:35] <NCLife> well, ill go to bed, gnite
[09:36] <rohan> ewww... kubuntu kde 3.5 packages are broken it seems
[09:37] <rohan> no icons is media:/
[09:38] <macximian> anyboooody eeelssse no  annythiiiing aboout gggettiing   my   mac tooo ssee  mmmy linux   boox
[09:38] <rohan> damn, and no package menu when right click on debs.
[09:42] <Jae> Have you tried Bonjour?
[09:42] <fridge> max: I usually setup nfs
[09:42] <fridge> and then command-K
[09:42] <Jae> It's a start of some sort.
[09:46] <rohan> in kubuntu, where is the option to "hibernate" my comp present ?
[09:46] <hunika> Hello Everybody, I have downloaded the Gnoppix and now I am using the cd
[09:46] <hunika> I don't know what but I find something beautifull in GNOME
[09:47] <hunika> it's simplicity maybe
[09:48] <rohan> hunika: i think you are on the wrong channel. for gnome, join #gnome, for ubuntu, on which gnoppix is based, join #ubuntu
[09:48] <hunika> rohan: I know I use KUBUNTU I just wanted to try gnome, and I downloaded Gnoppix
[09:49] <rohan> hunika: hehe, sorry, ok :(
[09:49] <Jae> Still wondering why my system likes to freeze up trying to load kubuntu
[09:50] <hunika> rohan: I use KUBUNTU for 2 months and I like it, and I am here online almost every day, just I was curious about GNOME and I don't know what I like in it but I like something.
[09:50] <Snake__> hunika: You could use gnome on kubuntu..
[09:51] <rohan> hunika: ok, i get the point. :|
[09:51] <hunika> Snake__: how?????? Can I switch between the two interfaces?\
[09:51] <Snake__> hunika: Yes
[09:51] <hunika> Snake__, how?
[09:51] <Snake__> hunika: when you log in, where it says session type, you just choose there before you log in
[09:52] <Snake__> sudo apt-get install gnome
[09:52] <hunika> ok thanks
[09:52] <rohan> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, hunika
[09:52] <Snake__> :)
[09:52] <Snake__> No
[09:52] <Snake__> DONT DO Ubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <rohan> why not, Snake__ ?
[09:53] <rohan> Snake__: i have done it myself, and it works..
[09:53] <Snake__> rohan: that will install all the programs and everything of ubuntu, if all he wants is the gnome interface without the bulk, just get gnome
[09:54] <Snake__> If he was on a server install, that would be fine,  but I assume hes on KDE
[09:54] <rohan> i s'pose "gnome" will be bare-bones ... anyway, anything that works.
[09:54] <Snake__> Yes, gnome is the windows manager with no extra BS
[09:54] <rohan> anyone here on kde 3.5 on breezy ?
[09:55] <Snake__> I
[09:55] <rohan> Snake__: then, in media:/ do you see the proper entries ?
[09:55] <rohan> i have only one entry for floppy.
[09:56] <Snake__> hmmm
[09:56] <Snake__> Its not right..but its there
[09:56] <Snake__> It says I have 2 floppies, and 2 CD drives
[09:56] <Snake__> im on a laptop with 1 cd drive, no floppie lol
[09:56] <rohan> hmm.. i have no entry for cd drive, nor for hard disks.
[09:57] <Snake__> I have no hard drive entrys
[09:58] <rohan> Snake__: they will appear if you disable hal, but thats a workabout, and auto cd mounting will fail with that.
[10:00] <Snake__> I see
[10:01] <hunika> Snake_: Can you help me please because those from #ubuntu don't want to help to me
[10:01] <Snake__> hunika: With?
[10:02] <hunika> Snake__: How do I mount devices in Gnome, I mean where, I know that in KDE at System Settings, but here where?
[10:02] <Snake__> Mmm I don't know man
[10:02] <Snake__> I dont run gnome
[10:03] <rohan> hunika: see in the places menu, for already mounted hdd's
[10:03] <hunika> Snake_: neither I, I am just trying it
[10:03] <rohan> hunika: cd-roms will be mounted automatically.
[10:04] <hunika> rohan: Yes will be but I am using a Live cd and I think I can mount my hard drive to access music video
[10:04] <rohan> hunika: ah, live cd... you need to mount manually, and create the mount points manually too.
[10:05] <hunika> rohan: I know, just tell me how in GNOME
[10:06] <rohan> hunika: from live cd, there is no way to automatically mount. mount in /media, restart dbus daemon, and then the mount point will appear in Places menu.
[10:06] <rohan> atleat ^^^ works for me.
[10:07] <thoreauputic> hunika: you can do  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media    for example , too
[10:07] <thoreauputic> afaik on the live CD there's no password - or look for a root terminal
[10:07] <hunika> rohan: I know what you are saying, I want to mount manually, but how? I am using linux for 2 months. I KDE I mounted my partitions at System Settings - Disk..
[10:07] <hunika> but here where?
[10:07] <hunika> System - Administration?
[10:08] <thoreauputic> hunika: I just told you one way - from the terminal
[10:08] <rohan> hunika: sudo mkdir /media/hdX ; sudo mount /dev/hdX /media/hdX
[10:08] <rohan> replace X everywhere with the device id.
[10:09] <thoreauputic> if you mount directly to /media or /mnt you won't need to create a directory
[10:09] <thoreauputic> whatever you prefer...
[10:10] <hunika> rohan: A simpler way? My partition is ntfs
[10:11] <hunika> where my music is
[10:12] <rohan> hunika: no simpler way that i know of, in gnome :(
[10:13] <rohan> need to leave, cya guys, bye :)
[10:14] <hunika> rohan: Terminal asked from me to specify mount type
[10:14] <hunika> filesystem type
[10:15] <billh> So gnome isn't compatible with KDE under Ubuntu ?
[10:15] <Snake__> billh: yes it is
[10:15] <billh> how should I install it /
[10:15] <billh> ?
[10:15] <Snake__> sudo apt-get install kde
[10:15] <billh> I just move from Debian unstable to breezy, but I don't know how all of this is integrated.
[10:16] <hunika> rohan: ?????
[10:16] <billh> It complains about not being able to install 3 packages.
[10:16] <billh> kdegraphics, etc...
[10:16] <Snake__> ugh
[10:16] <Snake__> hold on
[10:17] <Snake__> billh: Install the packages it says it can't install
[10:17] <Snake__> then install kde
[10:17] <billh> It says it's missing packages.
[10:18] <billh> can you message me your apt sources file ?
[10:18] <billh> I could have screwed up the configuration.
[10:18] <hunika> Snake_: Help me please to mount my hard drive. It is ntfs. I wrote to terminal but it ask to specify mount filesystem type how?
[10:18] <Snake__> hang on
[10:18] <billh> ok thanks
[10:18] <Snake__> Hobbsee_: help me out with these guys! Im a nub I cant handle this! lol
[10:19] <Hobbsee_> what's this for?
[10:19] <Snake__> hunika needs his HDD mounted in a linux ubuntu, and billh needs my sources list
[10:19] <billh> A whole number of package dependency are kind of screwed up from this upgrad.e
[10:19] <billh> zinf was removed
[10:19] <billh> bah
[10:20] <Hobbsee> !tell billh about repos
[10:20] <Hobbsee> !tell hunika about mount
[10:20] <Hobbsee> that should be a start...
[10:20] <macximian> anyone here able to help me setup smb? specifically specy the workgroup name
[10:20] <Hobbsee> dishes, back soon...
[10:21] <hunika> Hobbsee: I am using Gnoppix so Live CD
[10:21] <billh> thanks, I'll try this.
[10:21] <Snake__> billh: heres my sources
[10:21] <Snake__> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/486939
[10:21] <hunika> Hobbsee: just say to me how to mount my ntfs hard drive permanently in GNOME
[10:22] <Snake__> hunika: Hang on I may be of help
[10:22] <Snake__> let me find this link
[10:23] <Chameleon22> scanner not being detected by kooka (and gimp) but shows up on device list when kooka is started - ideas , cause i am all out , loaded firmware, lsmod looks fine, etc
[10:23] <Chameleon22> stumped
[10:23] <Snake__> hunika: I dont know if this will work in gnoppix....but it might, its worth a shot
[10:23] <Snake__> hunika: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:23] <Snake__> hunika: AND DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE IN THAT GUIDE
[10:23] <Snake__> Most of it is very outdated
[10:23] <billh> Snake__ and this sources.list is going to have the latest KDE in it ?
[10:23] <billh> 3.5 ?
[10:23] <Snake__> Only the part that speaks of the windows mounting
[10:23] <penguinzdr> hi dudes
[10:24] <Snake__> billh: No if you want to upgrade to 3.5, install 3.4 and go from there
[10:24] <Snake__> ill brb guys
[10:25] <billh> yeah, the problem is that coming from Debian unstable might have screwed up the dependencies.
[10:26] <Snake__> alright im back
[10:26] <hunika> Snake_: It won't work with Gnoppix. Anyway thanks. It says to me permission denied probably because runs from cd. Anyway I can use messenger everything here. I am just trying it
[10:26] <Snake__> billh: perhaps do a fresh install of kubutu?
[10:26] <billh> maybe, it might be too late.
[10:26] <hunika> Snake__: I use KUBUNTU
[10:27] <Snake__> hunika: THATS WUNDERBAR!!
[10:27] <Jae> So what other GUIs are there available? Gnome, KDE...
[10:27] <hunika> Snake__: You are german?
[10:27] <Snake__> xfce
[10:27] <Snake__> fluxbox
[10:27] <Snake__> black box
[10:27] <Snake__> ( Jae tahts all to you)
[10:27] <Snake__> hunika: Nope.
[10:27] <Jae> (Figured, thanks.)
[10:28] <Jae> Anyone have any idea why kubuntu would freeze up during startup trying to configure the network adapters?
[10:28] <hunika> Snake__: where are you from? I am from ROMANIA
[10:28] <Snake__> hunika: The Communist States of America
[10:28] <Jae> Actually, we're a Republic...
[10:29] <Jae> Communists have it easy.
[10:29] <Snake__> Jae: Its a joke. Calm down.
[10:29] <Jae> I know.
[10:29] <Jae> :D
[10:29] <hunika> Snake__: :))))))))))))))))))))
[10:29] <P3L|C4N0> hunika, vorbesc romaneste?
[10:29] <Jae> To be perfectly honest, we're a Democratic Republic. But give Bush a few more years and we'll be an Empire.
[10:30] <hunika> P3L|C4N0: sunt ungur
[10:30] <Snake__> English
[10:30] <hunika> P3L|C4N0: dar vorbes
[10:30] <hunika> c
[10:31] <Snake__> hunika: Why not use Ubuntu Live CD?
[10:31] <hunika> Snake__: I am just wrtiting to that guy or girl
[10:31] <Jae> Watashi wa nihon no gakusei desu... so... I'm so lame. I'm not even an otaku.
[10:31] <hunika> Snake__: Gnoppix is the Ubuntu Live CD. Gnoppix is based on UBUNTU too check www.gnoppix.org
[10:32] <billh> The "apt" I'm using is having problem with the Kubuntu one.
[10:32] <Snake__> billh: I would highly suggest a fresh install, I cant help ya
[10:32] <billh> ok
[10:32] <billh> well, I'm going to have to wing it.
[10:33] <Snake__> lol
[10:33] <Snake__> Good luck m8
[10:33] <Jae> Hmm..
[10:33] <billh> I'll have to half destroy my system first before doing a fresh install
[10:33] <Jae> I guess maybe another fresh install and forcing the network again.
[10:33] <hunika> Snake__: One thing which I appreciate in GNOME is that it is FASTER a lot more
[10:34] <Snake__> hunika: I am talking about the offical ubuntu CD
[10:34] <hunika> Snake__: I don't know about that! Check www.gnoppix.org
[10:35] <Snake__> I did
[10:35] <hunika> Snake_: I think it is the same
[10:35] <Snake__> I dunno
[10:35] <Jae> You know what would be neat?
[10:36] <Snake__> Whats that
[10:36] <Hobbsee> Snake__: did any links get sent to me during that?
[10:36] <Jae> The ability to run a Linux partition from inside Windows. Without emulation.
[10:36] <hunika> Snake__: I just downloaded it to try Gnome and to have a live cd. That is all
[10:36] <Jae> Kinda like... uhm... those ones... that do the thing in Linux that let you run Windows. Not WINE...
[10:36] <Jae> VMWare and stuff.
[10:36] <Snake__> Jae: there is one
[10:36] <Snake__> Jae: it's called Virtual PC 2004 (It costs money)
[10:36] <Snake__> Microsoft makes it
[10:37] <Jae> >_O
[10:37] <Jae> I hate Microsoft.
[10:37] <Snake__> lol
[10:37] <Jae> Qemu does the same job.
[10:37] <Snake__> http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:37] <Snake__> oops
[10:37] <Snake__> not that link
[10:37] <Snake__> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx
[10:37] <Snake__> that one
[10:37] <Hobbsee> Jae: cgwin, i think
[10:37] <Snake__> Trial i :)
[10:37] <Snake__> it*
[10:38] <Snake__> Damn I can't type lol
[10:38] <Jae> cygwin is not the win.
[10:38] <Jae> http://www.colinux.org/
[10:39] <Snake__> but it can only run knoppix
[10:39] <Snake__> in jap
[10:40] <billh> If I can pull this back out to a barebones install, it might work
[10:41] <billh> the apt stuff scares me thought
[10:41] <billh> though
[10:41] <billh> I could be using the worng version of apt for Ubuntu
[10:41] <Snake__> ll
[10:41] <Snake__> lol*
[10:51] <Chameleon22> scanner not being detected by kooka (and gimp) but shows up on device list when kooka is started - ideas , cause i am all out , loaded firmware, lsmod looks fine, etc   also how do i check what device (in /dev/) it is assigned to so i can ln fake scanner device to it
[10:57] <DHGE> Chameleon22: user rights? try as root (u might have to install sux first) - search the ubuntu forum: i found the solution for the problem (scsi, udev-related) there
[10:58] <Chameleon22> DHGE, tryed as root, same result. whats "sux"
[10:58] <DHGE> apt-cache search sux ;-)
[10:58] <Chameleon22> DHGE, also its a usb scanner, not scsi
[10:59] <DHGE> i'm no expert...
[10:59] <Chameleon22> DHGE, eh ok
[11:12] <blackflag> hello all
[11:13] <blackflag> can someone tell me how I can edit a pdf-file?
[11:13] <billh> Snake__ man this is nasty
[11:13] <Snake__> Lol
[11:16] <billh> It might not be worth going this route.
[11:16] <billh> Wasn't there some kind of package preferences that you can specify in a configuration file ?
[11:44] <billh> Snake__ it just removed my libc6 and the system is now dead
[11:45] <Snake__> billh: .....
[11:45] <Snake__> Might wanna fresh install
[11:45] <Snake__> :)
[11:45] <billh> no shit
[11:45] <billh> that was fun
[11:45] <Snake__> lol
[11:47] <billh> This also means that the system won't boot any longer
[11:47] <Snake__> So whats that mean
[11:47] <billh> I'll do a full install
[11:48] <billh> I have to do a full install
[11:48] <Snake__> heh
[11:48] <Snake__> Have fun with that :)
[11:48] <billh> This royally sucks
[11:48] <billh> but...
[11:48] <billh> it was an experiment
[11:48] <Snake__> lol
[11:49] <Snake__> thats the fun of linux :)
[11:49] <billh> yeah, major suckage
[11:49] <tosek> i have problems to start the dloaded live cd on an Apple ibook g4. it does not start holding c. should i try to burn it again?
[11:52] <Jae> tosek: I don't understand "it does not start holding c". Can you rephrase that?
[11:53] <tosek> theoretically i t should work. you can start any mac from cd when you hold c during startup
[11:54] <Jae> oooh...
[11:54] <Jae> are you running os x?
[11:54] <tosek> yes. 10.3.9
[11:54] <tosek> i wanted to have a look on (k)ubuntu
[11:54] <Jae> try to see if you can select it as a startup disk. if not, burn it again but use toast if you can.
[11:55] <tosek> i'll try
[11:55] <Jae> apple menu -> system preferences -> startup disks -> kubuntu livecd
[12:00] <tosek> it does not show up
[12:00] <Jae> I didn't think it would. Can you browse it like a normal CD?
[12:03] <tosek> yes. Oh i see. there's also the md5sum.txt
[12:03] <Jae> All I can recommend, then, is to reboot and hold C before the computer restarts, then see if it boots. If not, reburn the cd using toast.
[12:03] <Jae> Do check the md5sum.
[12:30] <Snake__> Hobbsee: got a min?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> yeah
[12:31] <Snake__> Can you test out my kicker killer script?
[12:31] <Snake__> lol
[12:31] <Snake__> (dont worry its reverible)
[12:32] <Hobbsee> um, maybe
[12:32] <Hobbsee> do you still have teh link to the first deb that i sent you?
[12:32] <Hobbsee> the breezy one?
[12:32] <Snake__> Hang on let me check my logs
[12:33] <Hobbsee> k
[12:53] <_buz> how can i check that nvidia drivers are accelerating it?
[12:53] <_buz> it still seems unusably slow
[12:55] <heinz> hallo gutes neues jahr noch
[12:56] <JakubS_> _buz: if it is unusably slow then you know that it is not accelerated :-)
[12:56] <_buz> but i have renderaccel true in my xorg.conf
[12:56] <_buz> and i'm using nvidia
[12:56] <_buz> (as driver)
[12:57] <_buz> maybe it IS unusably slow by my definition, subjectively, it feels faster than on a comparably speced ati system
[12:57] <JakubS_> do you have anything about renderaccel in Xorg.log.0 ?
[12:57] <_buz> wtf
[12:58] <_buz> Xorg log says I'm using nv
[12:58] <_buz> no wonder it sucks
[12:58] <_buz> ouch
[12:59] <_buz> there are two devices in xorg ;)
[01:02] <pinucset> one think, is there any amule for kde? something like kamule :S
[01:03] <soaz> i have kubuntu with KDE 3.4.3 (quess) installed and i miss a wizard, which let's me minimize "special (visual) efects" with a slide bar. which was present in previous versions of KDE. especially, when you started KDE for the first time. does anyone know, where can i find this wizard ? is it a standalone application ? it is possible that it isn't installed on my system. how is it called, please ?
[01:04] <Hobbsee> soaz: sudo apt-get install kpersonalizer
[01:05] <silly> I can't decide whether or not to have a sausage sarnie
[01:10] <NPC_Crys> Hey, how do I create logons for my family?
[01:11] <NPC_Crys> And make them usable and such?
[01:12] <NPC_Crys> Dead room.
[01:12] <NPC_Crys> Okay, bye.
[01:13] <nalioth> NPC_Crys: give us a chance, some of us are in many rooms
[01:13] <Bizzeh> hey, i donwloaded and burned kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso, when i boot with it, it asks me what language and screen resolutions i want, then it does a little graphical boot thing, then just gives me a console? isnt there suposed to be some sort of installer?
[01:13] <_buz> JakubS_: removing the nv device seems to have helped, thanks ;)
[01:13] <nalioth> Bizzeh: i'm not sure about the dvd image (and what it does) perhaps ask in #ubuntu
[01:14] <Bizzeh> asked in there, no one said anything
[01:23] <pinucset> one think, is there any amule for kde? something like kamule :S
[01:28] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i ugrade to Dapper Flight 2?
[01:33] <apokryphos> DjDarkman: it's not a good idea; it's unstable and many things are broken.
[01:33] <apokryphos> if you don't know what you're doing, it's a trap of landmines I'm afraid 8)
[01:36] <nalioth> apokryphos and his sunny 'good mornings'
[01:37] <NPC_Crys> Good morning!\
[01:37] <apokryphos> mownin' nalioth
[01:37] <DjDarkman> apokryphos: so your sayin that it`s a better idea to w8 for it to become stable?
[01:37] <NPC_Crys> Yes.
[01:37] <apokryphos> DjDarkman: or at least to wait a bit longer, yes.
[01:37] <DjDarkman> apokryphos: and i will havte download the iso and install it ,or i will be available with apt?
[01:37] <NPC_Crys> Sorry about not giving youa chance, nalioth.
[01:38] <apokryphos> DjDarkman: straight from apt
[01:38] <DjDarkman> ok ,thanx 4 the info apokryphos & have a nice day
[01:38] <NPC_Crys> Anyways, I found my answer on my own.
[01:38] <NPC_Crys> speaking of which, I'm going to check my other accounts now. Cya.
[01:46] <asraniel> hi there, anyone that knows apt-get good? i have broken something and dont realy know how to fix it
[01:47] <apokryphos> pastebin the error, then, for the channel
[01:48] <asraniel> apokryphos: well, the error is in german, well, not all of it, i'll post it
[01:48] <asraniel> apokryphos: or first i explain it:
[01:49] <asraniel> i wanted to install mythtv, then adept promted me about something that had to do with email servers. i clicked on cancel
[01:49] <asraniel> now i have a broken mailx package. this package would need postfix, but i cant install it
[01:50] <asraniel> the thing is, i cant uninstall it either
[01:55] <asraniel> omg, i cant install a single package anymore, my apt-get is totaly brocken!
[02:42] <capricorn_tm> Hi there^_^
[02:42] <capricorn_tm> Happy new year
[03:28] <jase> anyone know a decent solution fo rwhy my wlan0 flashed to enable when when i enable it, but the flashed back to disable on kde control module network settings
[03:29] <jase> ah wait no it's done it
[03:31] <__Dwayne> Hello all..
[03:36] <jase> how do i set the DNS on kubuntu
[03:46] <xanax`> hi
[03:47] <__Dwayne> hi
[04:00] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[04:00] <Chousuke> I decided to install KDE on a machine with 500MHz and 128MB of RAM
[04:00] <Chousuke> I hope I can trim down RAM usage so that it's usable.
[04:08] <Riddell> Chousuke: 128 should be OK, let me know how you get on
[04:11] <crown> is krusader in active development? it crash when in one dir there is same names with different case. funny :-/
[04:14] <kitsch> crown: last beta came in october, so i think it's in active development. http://krusader.sourceforge.net/
[04:16] <crown> kitsch: sad. thanks
[04:21] <__Dwayne> anyone know anything about why some windows are too big for a display?
[04:26] <claudiu> hi !
[04:27] <claudiu> happy new year!
[04:27] <claudiu> how can i see what files a deb package contains ?
[04:42] <blackflag> can someone tell me how  can I edit an existing PDF-file?
[04:45] <KleRoi> hello, i downloaded kubuntu and wanted to install it on my pc, but i dont know well how to partition my hd to create space for it. can anyone help me?
[04:46] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:03] <berkes> strange. my aspell is acting weird. quanta says it cannot be found, konq. fails to fire up the spellcheck dialog completely.
[05:03] <berkes> yet aspell is installed, and is in my $PATH.
[05:03] <Chousuke> Man, KDE is quite big :/
[05:04] <berkes> hehe Chousuke, it is. but you can make it very small if you want.
[05:04] <Chousuke> I guess I'll have to manually remove some packages after it's done installing the system
[05:04] <Chousuke> My family will have little us for kregexpeditor
[05:05] <Chousuke> use*
[05:05] <berkes> does anyone know where KDE stores the spellcheck options? so that i can check if kcontrol saved them correctly?
[05:06] <berkes> Chousuke: I doubt removing kregexpeditor changes anything about the size though :P
[05:07] <Chousuke> I'll remove other stuff too
[05:07] <berkes> Chousuke: and a good thing is to replace FF with konq and OO with koffice, if you need speed and smallness
[05:07] <Chousuke> like arts. the compter has no sound card.
[05:08] <berkes> oh, just basically best to use all the native KDE apps and not some odd XUL or GTK app (like evolution or thunderbird)
[05:08] <Chousuke> Yeah.
[05:08] <Chousuke> That's what I thought
[05:08] <Chousuke> But the machine still has only 128 MB of RAM
[05:10] <Chousuke> I'm hoping the configurability of KDE will allow me to bring the memory usage down.
[05:12] <Chousuke> I'll have to simplify the UI a lot too.
[05:12] <Chousuke> My folks will have no use for the advanced features that KDE offers :)
[05:12] <berkes> Chousuke: there is a wiki / tutorial on how to minimize KDEs recourse usage
[05:13] <Chousuke> Oh.
[05:13] <Chousuke> Where?
[05:13] <berkes> on the intqrweb
[05:13] <berkes> use google
[05:13] <berkes> :)
[05:13] <Chousuke> :p
[05:14] <berkes> but people, can anyone hint me, where to find whether my kde has the correct settings for aspell stored?
[05:14] <Chousuke> I think aspell is independent of KDE
[05:15] <berkes> Chousuke: yea, but kde uses it for its spellchecking.
[05:26] <Grougnach> Hello there, I have a problem to install Kdevelop
[05:26] <voicu> I have a "DVD (hdd)" icon on my desktop. It is a link to mount my cdrom into /hdd and I can't get rid of it. It doesn't appear in the ~/Desktop directory. Does anyone know why does it appear?
[05:27] <voicu> Of course, I tried deleting it but nothing happens...
[05:32] <rohan> hi all
[05:32] <rohan> where do i get qt4 4.1 packages for kubuntu from ?
[05:32] <Grougnach> voicu , I had the problem with the 3.4.x version of KDE I updated to 3.5 and now it's OK ...
[05:34] <voicu> Grougnach: That's nice :), this thing appeared happened to me since I updated to KDE3.5
[05:34] <rohan> mm.. kde 3.5 has b0rken hal support
[05:40] <voicu> Now the icons in K menu got bigger for no reason... I am starting to believe KDE has free will :P
[05:40] <rohan> voicu: because kubuntu sets it that way.
[05:41] <rohan> voicu: you can adjust the icon size
[05:41] <rohan> voicu: http://www.canllaith.org/hacks.html
[05:44] <voicu> thanks rohan
[05:45] <rohan> voicu: ty.
[05:45] <rohan> have you used kde before this, on an os other than kubuntu, voicu ?
[05:45] <Grougnach> voicu, Is your DVD mounted ? Is there a cd/dvd in the drive ?
[05:46] <voicu> well, yes, I used it on Red Hat and other Linux distros.. also on on FreeBSD but I'm used to any of them yet
[05:46] <rohan> voicu: ok.
[05:47] <voicu> grouchnach: there is a dvd in the drive but the icon always appears
[05:47] <voicu> *I'm not used to any of them yet
[05:48] <voicu> But shouldn't the icon appear in ~/Desktop if I see on the desktop?
[05:52] <Grougnach> voicu I suppose you right click on it and try to eject ...
[05:53] <Grougnach> voicu,  what does say the system settings / disk & filesystem in administrator mode ?
[05:53] <voicu> Grougnach: I unmounted it, ejected it and took the DVD out but when I try to delete it nothing happens.
[06:00] <voicu> Grougnach, what do you mean?
[06:02] <Grougnach> If you launch systemsettings there is an icon concerning disks and file systems. If you switch to anministrator mode you will be able to mount umount disks "by hand"
[06:05] <voicu> Mounting or unmounting isn't my problem. The thing is that the icon *is* on the desktop but I can't delete it (nothing happens when I press delete, no errors) and there isn't a DVD (hdd).desktop file in ~/Desktop.
[06:06] <voicu> The disk is unmounted. No dvd is in the drive
[06:10] <voicu> When I copy the icon/file/whatever it acts like I was copying the cd/dvd
[06:11] <jsubl2> voicu, you might try looking in the kde control center - Desktop - behavior under device icons
[06:13] <voicu> It works, thanks jsubl2
[06:14] <jsubl2> :)
[06:15] <Gecko> Hello. I am having trouble installing kubuntu-desktop. I am getting a Size mismatch on the files coming from http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35.
[06:15] <Gecko> Can anyone help or give a hint on what to do?
[06:16] <Stormx2> Gecko: tried sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:16] <Stormx2> ?
[06:16] <Gecko> Stormx2, it is exactly what I am doing
[06:20] <Gecko> the files concerned is: kdelibs-bin, kdelibs-data, artsbuilder, kaudiocreator, kdemultimedia, klaptopdaemon, klaptopdaemon and kwalletmanager
[06:20] <Gecko> all are downloaded from that kde3.5 repo mentioned in the topic
[06:21] <Gecko> they are all downloaded as a part of apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but are making apt-get fail because they don't match the size they are "supposed to be"
[06:22] <Gecko> Can anyone help?
[06:23] <jsubl2> tried another mirror
[06:24] <Gecko> I thought there weren't any mirrors of those unofficial ones?
[06:24] <jsubl2> I think there are mirrored with kde.... not sure tho
[06:27] <jsubl2> ftp://ftp.oregonstate.edu/pub/kde/stable/3.5/kubuntu
[06:27] <pinucset> is there any emule for kde? like kmule?
[06:28] <rraphink> pinucset: not that I know of
[06:28] <rraphink> there's amule
[06:28] <rraphink> but it's not kde based
[06:28] <_matt> does anyone know if Kget will get Bittorrent support in the near future?
[06:28] <rraphink> _matt: you can use ktorrent
[06:29] <rraphink> kget is a download client, not a bittorrent one
[06:29] <_matt> i know, but i seem to remember from the KDE wish list that its high on the wish list!
[06:30] <Gecko> jsubl2, same error
[06:30] <jsubl2> Gecko, sorry.  no idea
[06:30] <Gecko> ok
[06:31] <Gecko> I just have to do without 3.5 then
[06:31] <_matt> rraphink - I use the windows emule verson using wine - it works better than amule!
[06:31] <rraphink> haha
[06:31] <rraphink> use limewire then
[06:31] <rraphink> it's faster
[06:31] <_matt> yer but emule can connect to the KAD network
[06:31] <rraphink> hmm
[06:31] <jsubl2> Gecko, yeah this is odd.. it worked ok when i upgraded
[06:31] <Gecko> or just realize that it's also 3.5 being installed without that repo :D
[06:31] <rraphink> don't pirate :p
[06:32] <rraphink> listen to free music :p
[06:32] <_matt> of course - allways!
[06:32] <Gecko> or play your own ;)
[06:32] <jsubl2> Gecko, i installed kubuntu-desktop then upgraded tho.
[06:33] <Gecko> Ok :)
[06:33] <voicu> gecko, maybe i'm saying something stupid, but you could try deleting the package cache (in aptitude)
[06:34] <Gecko> voicu, perhaps. I'll try that later :)
[06:35] <_matt> Gecko - are you trying to upgrade to 3.5?
[06:35] <Gecko> _matt, no, I am trying to install kubuntu
[06:35] <Gecko> and wanting to have the newest
[06:36] <_matt> Gecko - are you using the flight 2 dapper drake install CD?
[06:37] <Gecko> _matt, no, normal breezy here
[06:37] <Gecko> im trying to install kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <Gecko> and succeeding also, after removing that experimental rep
[06:38] <_matt> I see - cant say that I have upgraded from ubuntu
[06:38] <Gecko> Was that kubuntu humor? :)
[06:39] <Gecko> mentioning kubuntu as an upgrade to ubuntu? ;)
[06:39] <_matt> sorry no! I forgot that people are very defensive of there desktop!
[06:40] <_matt> i shouldnt have said upgraded - I meant 'changed'
[06:40] <_matt> but I can tell you that flight 2 works very well on an IBM T30 Thinkpad - if that helps!
[06:41] <Gecko> well, I just installed ubuntu a few days ago. I'll try it out, as soon as my need to personalize is replaced by my need for adventure ;)
[06:42] <_matt> lol!
[06:42] <Gecko> _matt, it's ok. I thought it pretty funny
[06:42] <_matt> what distro were you using before?
[06:43] <Gecko> had a linux break
[06:43] <Gecko> had some problems with my laptop and hardware support, so I kinda took a break, because it was impossible to get up and running
[06:44] <Gecko> But I have just bought another laptop, where linux runs without any problems...
[06:44] <_matt> what laptop do you have?
[06:44] <Gecko> the one not working is an asus a4k
[06:44] <Gecko> it's an amd64 based one
[06:45] <Gecko> the one I recently bought is actually kindof old, but is just right for my needs
[06:45] <Gecko> compaq armada m300, very small and slick
[06:45] <Gecko> weighs nothing at all
[06:46] <Gecko> and very slim too
[06:47] <Gecko> now you'll have to excuse me, I have to test out that kubuntu system :)
[06:56] <Gecko> wow, I think I could actually get used to this kde thing :)
[06:57] <Gecko> Not that I haven't been saying that sentense since kde 1.1 :P
[06:57] <ninHer> hi all
[06:57] <HymnToLife> hi :) how do you resie the text in Kopete's conversation windows ?
[06:57] <HymnToLife> it's so damn big :/
[06:57] <HymnToLife> resize*
[06:59] <sampan> hymntolife  configure --> appearance --> colors & fonts tab
[06:59] <sampan> should be able to change the font size there
[06:59] <HymnToLife> thanks :)
[07:00] <HymnToLife> I was wondering why the hell there wasn't something in the Chat Window tab :p
[07:00] <sampan> :)  sometimes options get hidden ;)
[07:14] <HymnToLife> sampan > and how do I remove those "xxxx has left chat" on MSN chats ?
[07:15] <_Matt> Hay Gecko - did your kubuntu work?
[07:15] <sampan> hymntolife  not sure -- i never use kopete or im apps actually ... found the fonts just by accident :/
[07:15] <HymnToLife> ok, gonna search in the help then :p
[07:16] <sampan> it might be: configure -- behavior -- chat ... there's a line there: "show events in chat" which might be arrivals and departures?  not sure
[07:16] <Gecko> _Matt: no problem at all :)
[07:17] <_Matt> Gecko - thats cool!
[07:17] <Gecko> I thought superkaramba functionality was somehow built into kde?
[07:18] <_Matt> Yes, thats what I throught on the KDE website it says that it is in 3.5
[07:18] <_Matt> but I cant see it in Kubunutu
[07:19] <sampan> _matt  have you installed 3.5 on kubuntu?  breezy installs 3.4.3 -- you have to deliberately upgrade to 3.5
[07:19] <_Matt> yep, I upgraded to 3.5
[07:20] <_Matt> but flight 2 dapper drake installs 3.5 by default
[07:20] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[07:20] <Chousuke> Installed KDE 3.5
[07:20] <Chousuke> Slow, but I think my folks'll like it
[07:20] <True_Chaos> Im thinking im fucked here, but my mom hardshutdown my laptop (running kubuntu) cause the blinking lights annoyed her. Im now stuck at GRUB Loading, Please wait...
[07:20] <True_Chaos> any ideas? I have no idea where to even start
[07:21] <sampan> ouch
[07:21] <_Matt> do you have a install CD?
[07:21] <True_Chaos> ive got an install cd kicking around somewhere
[07:21] <True_Chaos> or I should, anyway
[07:21] <_Matt> i think that has a 'recover system' option on it
[07:22] <_Matt> has anyone ever tried to recover a system?
[07:22] <True_Chaos> hmm
[07:22] <True_Chaos> I get to the install menu
[07:22] <True_Chaos> and thats not really what I want to do
[07:22] <True_Chaos> :P
[07:23] <sampan> true_chaos  don't do anything drastic.  i'm too newb to know, but if there aren't experts here atm, you might try asking in #ubuntu -- more people and someone's bound to know
[07:23] <True_Chaos> kk
[07:23] <neko> does anyone here have any experiance of the double clock speed bug on some of the ATI based laptops?
[07:32] <True_Chaos> grr, the consensus seems to be attempt to reinstall grub
[07:41] <tenco> hi folks!
[07:41] <_networker> ahoy
[07:42] <_networker> anyone know how to install mplayer on (k)ubuntu?
[07:42] <tenco> i need a fast and not too ugly kde theme for a slow computer. any suggestions? qtcurve?
[07:48] <neko> _networker: adept works for me
[07:49] <neko> I think synaptic is the installer for ubuntu
[07:49] <True_Chaos> anyone know how to install grub?
[07:50] <neko> or "sudo apt-get install mplayer" from command line IIRC
[07:50] <_networker> yah neko i don't think it's in the universe repo anymore
[07:50] <_networker> it sez package not found
[07:50] <neko> have you added multiverse?
[07:50] <True_Chaos> sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[07:50] <True_Chaos> see what that shows up
[07:51] <_networker> true_chaos: it came back with one file, and it's a kernel driver for matrox vid cards
[07:52] <True_Chaos> hrm
[07:52] <True_Chaos> then ive no clue
[07:52] <True_Chaos> :P
[07:52] <_networker> if it shows up for you true_chaos, can i have a copy of your sources.list?
[07:53] <True_Chaos> it did, but right now im trying to recover my system :P
[07:53] <_networker> oops...
[07:53] <_networker> neko, can i have a copy of yours then?
[07:53] <neko> one mo
[07:53] <_networker> neko, i thank you
[07:56] <steve_laptop> Steven just got busted invoice just came in with lee's name and address on it and the book keeper wanted to no who that was being there is no job acc. set up.... think fast "O" that was a repair paid cash.... rong answer $2000.000 wtf "O" "0" BUSTED!!!
[07:57] <_networker> steve_laptop... wtf?
[07:58] <steve_laptop> rong forum :)
[08:00] <_networker> sudo adept
[08:00] <_networker> SWEEEEET... thank you neko
[08:00] <neko> np
[08:05] <difeta> a couple days ago, konqurer stopped showing me thumbnails of my picutes. The thumbnails show up on the desktop but not in the browser. Any ideas of whats going on?
[08:12] <RustyJames> is it possible to start a program coressponding to the CD that is inserted? e.g. the cd-player for an audio-cd?
[08:18] <RustyJames> hello?
[08:18] <RustyJames> anyone there?
[08:19] <_philip> yaah
[08:19] <RustyJames> is it possible to start a program coressponding to the CD that is inserted? e.g. the cd-player for an audio-cd?
[08:20] <aseigo> RustyJames: the hot plug manager in kde3.5 provides for that, yes
[08:21] <neoncode> Are there any dangers in building something with full debug support?
[08:21] <RustyJames> and in kde 3.4.1?
[08:21] <Riddell> RustyJames: you would have to edit the files in /etc/ivman
[08:22] <slow-motion> bbl
[08:23] <RustyJames> Riddell, is there some document in which it is described?
[08:23] <Riddell> try the ivman website
[08:23] <RustyJames> ok thanks
[08:23] <Riddell> their wiki has various examples
[08:25] <neoncode> Hey i'm trying to complie amarok with debug mode because the packaged amarok won't work. configure runs fine but make gives a tone of errors....
[08:25] <lwizardl> !universe
[08:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:28] <neoncode> anyone any help?
[08:29] <nxv_> hi, can i have samba users independent from the system users?
[08:29] <lwizardl> !nvidia
[08:29] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:30] <Fluaju> Hello!
[08:31] <lwizardl> is there a guide for nvidia on kubuntu
[08:31] <Fluaju> Hello?
[08:34] <Riddell> !nvidia
[08:34] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:34] <Riddell> ah, you did that already :)
[08:35] <lwizardl> yeah thats for gnome
[08:35] <lwizardl> i just added gnome to my system so i can use that
[08:35] <Riddell> just use adept instead of synaptic
[08:36] <BrianB04> Quick question: How do I setup Kubuntu to be able to view DivX movies?
[08:36] <lwizardl> BrianB04: i think you need the w32 codecs for that
[08:36] <lwizardl> or use vlc
[08:37] <BrianB04> VLC?
[08:37] <lwizardl> video lan client
[08:37] <lwizardl> has settings for all videos
[08:37] <lwizardl> basically requires no codecs
[08:38] <BrianB04> What repository holds VLC?
[08:39] <lwizardl> not sure i have universe and multiverse enabled but i'm currently redoing my system
[08:39] <lwizardl> adept finds it just called "vlc"
[08:39] <BrianB04> I just found that VLC hosts one, so I will try those.
[08:39] <neoncode> the packaged version of amarok 1.3.7 won't work for me. So I'm trying to build it from source with debug support. configure runs fine but make fails. the output from both make and configure are here... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6493... any advice?
[08:41] <mikispag> hello
[08:43] <Zerlinna> hi :-)
[08:44] <Zerlinna> if you want to meet kubuntu users from all over the world, join in to: www.frappr.com/kubuntu
[08:44] <mikispag> thanks, I'll try that
[08:45] <Zerlinna> :)
[08:45] <mikispag> well I'm Italian. How can I add me? :)
[08:45] <mikispag> oh I see
[08:45] <mikispag> the form below
[08:46] <Zerlinna> miki: just click on "add yourself" :-)
[08:47] <mikispag> I see, I've just added myself :)
[08:47] <Zerlinna> mikispag: nice
[08:51] <lwizardl> how can i change the time format from 24hour to 12hour
[08:51] <lwizardl> !windows
[08:51] <ubotu> somebody said windows was unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[08:51] <lwizardl> !ntfs
[08:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[08:54] <lwizardl> ok i have sounds coming from my speakers but applications keep crashing saying no device found whats up
[08:56] <lwizardl> and the winmac_fstab file is reporting 404
[09:03] <rhendrix> hwllo
[09:03] <rhendrix> anyone know anything about fglrx drivers and ATI graphics
[09:07] <lwizardl> how do i mount my hdb1 drive (its ntfs formated) i want to copy the files over and burn them to disc
[09:08] <neoncode> !lart amarok
[09:15] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[09:18] <erleb> hello
[09:20] <erleb> i wonder if any here have experience in installing mplayer on kubuntu? i cant "compile it" it seems..(think it has something todo with gcc version4.x) and i dont find it when i search with "apt-cache search mplayer"
[09:20] <jpatrick> it's mplayer-386
[09:20] <jpatrick> !info mplayer-386
[09:20] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[09:21] <erleb> hmm, maybe my "sources-list" are wrong then?
[09:21] <erleb> need i to add something extra there?
[09:21] <jpatrick> erleb: you need multiverse enabled
[09:22] <erleb> oki, I do that in sources.list?
[09:22] <jpatrick> erleb: yse
[09:23] <jpatrick> you need to remove the '#' from it's deb line
[09:23] <erleb> thanks :)
[09:25] <Chousuke> KDE is cool :)
[09:25] <erleb> Since im first in here.. It seems that a great deal is working really smooth in kubuntu.. I like it alot :)
[09:25] <Chousuke> albeit slightly slow on this machine
[09:25] <Riddell> Chousuke: tht the 128Megs machine?
[09:25] <Chousuke> yeah
[09:26] <Riddell> just don't start openoffice
[09:26] <Chousuke> takes time to redraw windows
[09:26] <DjDarkman> how can i make a pogram start on kde startup?
[09:26] <Chousuke> hmm
[09:26] <Chousuke> put a .desktop file in /usr/share/kdesomething/Autostart or something.
[09:26] <_Matt> Hi erleb - what version of Kubunut are you using?
[09:27] <Riddell> ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:27] <Chousuke> or that
[09:27] <DjDarkman> 10x Riddell
[09:27] <erleb> hmm, look at "cd .kde/Autostart"
[09:28] <Chousuke> hm
[09:28] <Chousuke> where was the systemwide autostart dir?
[09:28] <Chousuke> can't find it after all
[09:28] <Chousuke> ;P
[09:28] <erleb> hey matt, i just installed it.. its breezy
[09:28] <_Matt> were you a windows user or linix user before?
[09:29] <erleb> i used debian before.. :)
[09:29] <_Matt> thats funny - do did I!
[09:29] <erleb> Ubuntu kindof "autodetect" things i had to work alot to get working before it seems..
[09:30] <Chousuke> :)
[09:30] <slow-motion> re
[09:30] <sproingie> ubuntu works with ati cards almost out of the box, which is a plus
[09:30] <_Matt> are you using a desktop or a laptop?
[09:30] <erleb> Im using laptop..
[09:31] <lwizardl> can someone help me with getting my ntfs drive mounted in kubuntu the page doesn't work
[09:31] <erleb> I think the laptop doesnt go to "sleep" or suspend though..
[09:31] <_Matt> same here - i liked how kubuntu just works - with the excellent KDE desktop
[09:34] <_Matt> Hi lwizard1 - go into the control centre
[09:35] <_Matt> then into system administraton
[09:37] <_Matt> then the HD section
[09:37] <_Matt> does your NTFS HD show in here?
[09:37] <noom> no
[09:37] <noom> how can i see ntfs in kubuntu
[09:38] <neoncode> Will a version of amarok I built from source work better than the repo version?
[09:38] <noom> how can i see ntfs in kubuntu
[09:38] <noom> plz
[09:39] <lwizardl> matt i got it working using info from ubuntu guide
[09:39] <lwizardl> noom: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[09:39] <_Matt> thats cool lwizard
[09:39] <_Matt> I was just writing an essay for you!
[09:39] <noom> thx
[09:39] <noom> i ll try
[09:40] <noom> ^_^
[09:40] <lwizardl> now i just need to find out how to grant write access to it so i can delete files from it
[09:41] <_Matt> Ive never worked that out to be honist - I tick the box for write access - but it does not work
[09:41] <_Matt> if you work it out - let me know!
[09:42] <noom> how about download kernel-module-ntfs
[09:42] <noom> but that for FC5
[09:43] <lwizardl> matt: i'm switching to linux 100% not even going to use wine type emulation (if i can help it) i just need to pull my data from the windows partition
[09:43] <_stone> Hola
[09:43] <_stone> quiero editar mi xor.conf
[09:43] <_stone> xorg.conf
[09:44] <_stone> con que comando lo hago
[09:44] <_Matt> i see - do you think that you can do 100% what you want to do with kubuntu!
[09:44] <_Matt> ?
[09:46] <_Matt> I have a duel boot laptop, windows/kubuntu - I want to go 100% kubuntu
[09:46] <tudor> :D
[09:46] <tudor> don`t we all
[09:47] <_Matt> who in here is using kubunutu 100% ?
[09:47] <tudor> sorry
[09:47] <tudor> and I don`t think I`ll ever be able to do that
[09:48] <_Matt> why not tudor?
[09:50] <tudor> well
[09:50] <tudor> I`m a webdesigner
[09:50] <tudor> web programmer actually
[09:50] <tudor> in Romania
[09:50] <jpatrick> _Matt: I am
[09:51] <tudor> and most of the users have crappy IE
[09:51] <tudor> and I must check a site for correct display in IE
[09:51] <jpatrick> tudor: ditch IE
[09:51] <tudor> therefor I need IE aka windows
[09:51] <tudor> I can`t...
[09:51] <tudor> there are lots of people using it...
[09:51] <jpatrick> just do it
[09:51] <tudor> and my customers
[09:51] <tudor> the people paying me
[09:52] <jpatrick> do what Google does and say use Firefox! or whatever
[09:52] <tudor> want their website to display their site in ie
[09:52] <tudor> it doesn`t work like that
[09:52] <tudor> I may lose lots of customers
[09:52] <_Matt> i understand
[09:52] <_Matt> i am a system administrator for windows for my customers
[09:52] <tudor> I have those little "get the web back" banners
[09:53] <tudor> here and there
[09:53] <jpatrick> tudor: http://stopie.com/ :P
[09:54] <_Matt> i try to convert some users to linux! its ok for some old home users who only use there computers for internet
[09:55] <_Matt> but for game users or power users, they stay with windows
[09:56] <_Matt> has anyone had any luck with converting 'normal users' to Kubuntu?
[09:56] <tudor> well
[09:56] <jpatrick> _Matt: errr
[09:57] <tudor> and the university
[09:57] <tudor> i`ve installed kubuntu on 20 computers
[09:57] <tudor> an entire lab
[09:57] <tudor> mwhahahahaa
[09:58] <tudor> and set grub to boot from kubuntu after a one second delay
[09:58] <_Matt> thats cool - anyone had any luck with 'home users'?
[09:58] <jpatrick> tudor: haha
[09:59] <tudor> yes
[09:59] <tudor> i work there 2
[09:59] <tudor> part time
[09:59] <tudor> as a Java instructor
[10:00] <jpatrick> I tried Java
[10:00] <tudor> and I can easy deploy what the students are doing
[10:00] <tudor> under linux
[10:00] <jpatrick> but I think I'll stick to C++ and Python
[10:00] <_Matt> jpatrick - have you ever developed something for KDE?
[10:01] <jpatrick> _Matt: I'm working on that
[10:01] <jpatrick> _Matt: I'm a Kubuntu Developer (sort of)
[10:01] <tudor> jpatrick> i`m teaching java....
[10:02] <_Matt> I've wrote a 'point of sale' program using VB.  I was wondering if I have a go at porting it to KDE
[10:02] <tudor> i`m using php
[10:02] <jpatrick> _Matt: you'll have to make KDE & Qt bindings for it
[10:02] <tudor> _Matt> anything can be ported :)) given the right amout of time...
[10:03] <jpatrick> tudor: people are working on Java and C# right now
[10:03] <_Matt> thats what I thought.  I didnt know if I should port my app or find a POS program in development and see if I can help
[10:04] <jpatrick> I'm going, cya guys later
[10:04] <_Matt> cya jpatrick
[10:04] <lwizardl> how is pan for newsgroups?
[10:06] <_ari> guys, I'm having problems upacking a .rar file with Ark, could someone help me?
[10:08] <_ari> it says: "The utility unrar is not in your PATH / Please install it or contact your system administrator"
[10:12] <_ari> anyone?
[10:13] <_ari> :-/
[10:15] <SirKillalot> hey, I switched from gnome to KDE yesterday, as you can guess I'm not that familiar with that desktop.. well, how do I actually change themes of my panels here?
[10:15] <SirKillalot> cause one of the things I dont like on KDE are that blinky and shiny themes
[10:16] <seth_k|lappy> SirKillalot, right click on the panel and configure it
[10:16] <_ari> seth, any clue about what I should do?
[10:17] <seth_k|lappy> _ari, install unrar
[10:17] <_ari> how do I do that?
[10:17] <seth_k|lappy> _ari, open Adept and search for it
[10:17] <SirKillalot> how do I change the way of the application buttons in the task bar look?
[10:17] <seth_k|lappy> SirKillalot, SystemSettings > Appearance > icons
[10:17] <_ari> Adept?
[10:17] <SirKillalot> the buttons?
[10:18] <SirKillalot> are you sure?
[10:18] <SirKillalot> the buttons for the running apps are too 3d for me
[10:18] <seth_k|lappy> SirKillalot, the buttons like the K Menu and stuff? maybe I'm not understanding you
[10:18] <seth_k|lappy> ohh
[10:18] <seth_k|lappy> right click on the panel
[10:18] <spikeh> where are the fonts stored on Kubuntu?
[10:18] <seth_k|lappy> configure > taskbar > appearance
[10:18] <SirKillalot> are you not able to theme the panels?
[10:19] <seth_k|lappy> SirKillalot, yes... you can choose a background image for it and change the button style
[10:20] <_ari> sorry, I'm a complete newbie......what's Adept?
[10:20] <apokryphos> !adept
[10:20] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[10:20] <_ari> will Kynaptic be okay?
[10:20] <apokryphos> no
[10:21] <apokryphos> _ari: are you on Hoary?
[10:21] <_ari> I think so.......
[10:21] <apokryphos> _ari: cat /etc/issue  ...gives?
[10:21] <spikeh> apokryphos: where are the fonts stored?
[10:22] <SirKillalot> seth_k|lappy, can I set something like a startup to configure the commands which shall be executed when I log on to KDE?
[10:22] <_ari> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog"
[10:22] <apokryphos> spikeh: system-wide in /usr/share/X11/fonts
[10:22] <apokryphos> _ari: do you have a good internet connection?
[10:22] <spikeh> thanks apokryphos
[10:22] <_ari> cable for now
[10:22] <_ari> usually fiber optic
[10:23] <apokryphos> _ari: good enough; you might consider upgrading to the latest stable version of Ubuntu -- the Breezy Badger.
[10:23] <meister_> then install breezy
[10:23] <_ari> well, I just want to get unrar right now
[10:23] <seth_k|lappy> SirKillalot, yes, put shell scripts in ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:23] <_ari> can you tell me how to get it in my current situation?
[10:23] <apokryphos> _ari: enable the multiverse repository and install unrar-nonfree, then
[10:23] <_ari> great
[10:23] <_ari> I have it enabled already
[10:24] <apokryphos> go for it, then
[10:24] <captain_petz> my k won't work
[10:24] <captain_petz> it says $DISPLAY not set
[10:24] <apokryphos> what did you do?
[10:24] <captain_petz> happy new year everybody
[10:24] <_ari> there is "unrar" and "unrar-nonfree" I should go for nonfree, right?
[10:24] <meister_> same
[10:24] <captain_petz> i did apt-get upgrade
[10:24] <apokryphos> _ari: yup
[10:24] <apokryphos> captain_petz: breezy?
[10:25] <captain_petz> yap
[10:25] <apokryphos> captain_petz: what kde version?
[10:25] <captain_petz> sorry not sure
[10:25] <apokryphos> captain_petz: kde-config --version
[10:25] <_ari> is that compatible with Ark, or is it seperate?
[10:25] <apokryphos> not sure
[10:25] <_ari> nevermind
[10:25] <_ari> it worked :D
[10:26] <apokryphos> _ari: I always just use the command:   unrar x somearchive.rar
[10:26] <_ari> thanks guys :D
[10:26] <captain_petz> i have kde version 3.4.3
[10:26] <apokryphos> captain_petz: you might consider upgrading to the latest stable version
[10:26] <apokryphos> !kde 3.5
[10:26] <ubotu> it has been said that kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
 i might do it also. do they have ppc binaries yet?
[10:26] <captain_petz> can I do that with apt-get
[10:27] <nalioth> captain_petz: you can.
[10:27] <apokryphos> nalioth: I don't think so, unfortunately.

[10:27] <apokryphos> hm, yeah, they don't
[10:27] <apokryphos> nalioth: amu used to make the ppc packs I believe, but he hasn't been around much.
[10:27] <captain_petz> well, thats what I geht: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[10:28] <apokryphos> captain_petz: well, you didn't follow the instructions on thel ink I gave you
[10:28] <nalioth> apokryphos: as soon as i can figure this damned pbuilding thing out, i'm gonna build the whole darned thing
[10:28] <apokryphos> no need to use pbuild as I said, but hey :P
[10:28] <captain_petz> apokryphos, link you gave me?
[10:28] <apokryphos> yes
[10:28] <meister_> captain_pet http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[10:29] <captain_petz> thanx every1
[10:29] <nalioth> apokryphos: why not do it and help the whole ppc community?
[10:29] <Chousuke> hm
[10:29] <Chousuke> kopete somehow bugs with the menu.
[10:29] <apokryphos> nalioth: because I don't have a ppc, I'd love to though 8)
[10:30] <Chousuke> If I try to browse the file menu, the "Settings" menu that is beneath the file menu in the toolbar gets selected
[10:30] <apokryphos> nalioth: you can do it without pbuild in like 4 commands (for each package)
[10:31] <apokryphos> ok, maybe 5 or 6; I'm really rusty. I'd have to think about it.
[10:32] <spikeh> apokryphos: I can't seem to find the right fonts there; where are fonts like Deja Vu stored?
[10:32] <nalioth> apokryphos: yes i have the build sequence for the whole 3.5 array
[10:32] <apokryphos> spikeh: ack; /usr/share/fonts probably
[10:32] <spikeh> apokryphos: right, thank you :)
[10:32] <captain_petz> I shall better check if that helped
[10:32] <nalioth> let me go see about a pbuild
[10:32] <apokryphos> okily
[10:40] <petz> hi everybody, I'm back and still Kde is unable to starup
[10:40] <petz> t
[10:43] <apokryphos> petz: what's the error?
[10:43] <apokryphos> petz: could you pastebin the whole error?
[10:44] <petz> hmm
[10:44] <petz> it's not there anymore after starting xfce isn't it
[10:45] <apokryphos> I guess not
[10:46] <petz> can't connect kdeinit is one of them
[10:47] <petz> kdeinit: Aborting. No write access to '/home/paddy/.ICEauthority'.
[10:47] <petz> Warning: connect() failed: : Permission denied
[10:47] <petz> The following installation problem was detected
[10:47] <petz> while trying to start KDE:
[10:47] <petz>     No write access to '/home/paddy/.ICEauthority'.
[10:47] <petz> KDE is unable to start.
[10:47] <petz> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[10:47] <petz> Xlib: No protocol specified
[10:47] <petz> ksmserver: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[10:47] <petz> ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!
[10:47] <petz> startkde: Shutting down...
[10:47] <petz> Warning: connect() failed: : Permission denied
[10:47] <petz> Error: Can't contact kdeinit!
[10:47] <petz> startkde: Running shutdown scripts...
[10:47] <petz> startkde: Done.
[10:47] <nalioth> petz: please read the /topic when you enter irc channels
[10:47] <apokryphos> petz: do not paste in here. Please read the /topic when you enter a channel.
[10:48] <nalioth> petz: the /topic contains info that is important to know about how the channel works and other things
[10:48] <apokryphos> petz: sounds to me like you've been running   sudo {guiapplication}  which you specifically should NOT do.
[10:48] <petz> sorry guys
[10:49] <apokryphos> petz: enter this command:  sudo chown paddy:paddy -R /home/paddy
[10:49] <nalioth> apokryphos: no no
[10:49] <nalioth> petz: no
[10:49] <nalioth> petz: rm ~/.ICEauthority should fix it right up
[10:49] <apokryphos> nalioth: they both would.
[10:49] <nalioth> apokryphos: there is far too much chmodding goin on
[10:50] <apokryphos> no chmodding; only chowning
[10:50] <apokryphos> and it doesn't take that long -- you don't know how many things have been broken
[10:50] <nalioth> apokryphos: .ICEauthority is rebuilt every start
[10:50] <apokryphos> and presuming that that was the only thing with altered permissions isn't a given
[10:50] <petz> so what do I do?
[10:50] <nalioth> but it can't be rebuilt if its set readonly (which sudo does) <this is a known issue way back to warty>
[10:51] <nalioth> petz: rm ~/.ICEauthority
[10:51] <apokryphos> petz: nalioth's might fix it, but it might not. No problem in trying his first, really.
[10:51] <petz> ok you're great. sorry I was so hasty.
[10:51] <petz> then what do I do? try restarting?
[10:51] <nalioth> petz: are you in a recovery mode now?
[10:51] <apokryphos> try running kde now, yes
[10:52] <petz> well I'll have to leave x first. i don't know what a recovery mode is
[10:52] <nalioth> are you in X now?
[10:52] <petz> positive
[10:52] <nalioth> interesting
[10:52] <petz> why?
[10:52] <nalioth> once you remove that file, logging out and back in should fix you up
[10:53] <petz> ok, give it a try. I'll be back
[10:54] <slow-motion> bbl maybe
[10:54] <nalioth> i prefer the simple fix over more complex ones
[10:56] <petz> apokryphos, I'm back. the same errors
[10:56] <petz> nalioth, to u 2
[10:56] <petz> which means $display not set
[10:56] <apokryphos> petz: I doubt you get the exact same error
[10:57] <petz> it looks very much the same
[10:57] <petz> and is only about 15 lines
[10:57] <apokryphos> petz: iceauthoriy again?
[10:58] <petz> no, the one I had before. isn't there a way to switch to the text-only session?
[10:58] <apokryphos> ctrl+alt+F1
[10:58] <apokryphos> (probably)
[10:59] <petz> and back? ctrl-alt-f2?
[10:59] <nalioth> ctrl-alt-f7 is the gui console
[11:01] <swim> i find kde's themes lacking... in comparisson to say... gnome's just seem like gnome has much more variety... dunno... not meaning to bash... just considering
[11:02] <apokryphos> swim: there are a zillion more themes for kde than there are for gnome
[11:02] <sproingie> themes are just themes.  the good ones are usually for both
[11:02] <apokryphos> (comes with it being popular)
[11:02] <Tm_T> aye
[11:02] <sproingie> i got two words for why i prefer kde: file dialog
[11:02] <Tm_T> sproingie: aye sir
[11:02] <swim> themes means window deco, and style yes?
[11:03] <swim> hehe
[11:04] <swim> ive been an xfce user for awhile... kde user years and years ago... but i honestly cant find anything Im very happy about (win deco/ style wise) plus I like to have a uniform win-deco/style
[11:05] <apokryphos> Tm_T: screeny?
[11:05] <apokryphos> Quite like knifty
[11:05] <Tm_T> yes
[11:05] <Tm_T> oh wait, apache is down
[11:06] <petz> sorry guys but it's no good. it claims unability of connecting to kdeinit
[11:06] <Tm_T> apokryphos: I only fixed settings thing and couple more small changes, not much to show actually
[11:07] <sproingie> i tend to work inside a maximized web browser half the day, and the other half split between emacs and terminal
[11:07] <sproingie> so i actually can't bring myself to care what theme i use in the end
[11:07] <sproingie> or DE for that matter, tho it's nice to have a convenient DE when i want it
[11:07] <petz> i know just what you mean
[11:08] <sproingie> sometimes i fire up eclipse, also maximized of course.  that is its own theme
[11:08] <petz> sproingie, and I'm not gettin it
[11:08] <sproingie> subtle works best for me
[11:09] <petz> whazzat mean?
[11:09] <_joshua> hey can someone help me out with sources list
[11:09] <_joshua> i just reinstalled so i need a new one
[11:10] <petz> you probably should be able to find one on some ubuntu forum. checked that out yet?
[11:10] <sampan> or you can customize one at source-o-matic
[11:10] <sampan> !easysources
[11:10] <ubotu> Not a clue, sampan
[11:10] <nalioth> !sources
[11:10] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:10] <sampan> !easysource
[11:10] <ubotu> I heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:11] <_joshua> cool
[11:11] <_joshua> thanks guys
[11:11] <_joshua> :D
[11:11] <sampan> yw :)
[11:13] <petz> well with my kde prob, I get the error i first got, so installing the new version didnt help
[11:13] <petz> if i got that right, that is
[11:14] <_joshua> hey is http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic for kubuntu too yeh? i just use the breezy option right
[11:15] <sampan> yep, the repos are the same
[11:15] <apokryphos> _joshua: sure, but you might want to add kde 3.5 repository too (which isn't listed there)
[11:15] <apokryphos> !kde 3.5
[11:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[11:15] <_joshua> ok
[11:15] <nalioth> apokryphos: pm?
[11:16] <sampan> apokryphos  the 3.5 repo is there on source-o-matic actually (just checked)
[11:16] <apokryphos> nalioth: eh?
[11:16] <apokryphos> sampan: very interesting
[11:17] <apokryphos> it was added; they'd need to enter the GPG command to get it to actually work though :/
[11:17] <nalioth> apokryphos: you know anything about building source in a pbuilder that isnt in a repo?
[11:17] <sampan> heh ... can't have everything huh? :X
[11:18] <apokryphos> nalioth: never used pbuilder apart from when I first tried it which was about 10 mins.
[11:21] <_joshua> so can i use source o matic for 3.5 ?
[11:21] <nalioth> jokele: no, visit the link above
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _joshua about kde3.5
[11:24] <_joshua> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[11:24] <_joshua> OK
[11:24] <_joshua> hmm
[11:24] <Chousuke> hm
[11:24] <Chousuke> what's the hotkey for katapult?
[11:24] <Hobbsee> _joshua: try adding the key again?
[11:24] <Hobbsee> Chousuke: alt+space
[11:24] <_joshua> i dont know how :(
[11:24] <sampan> chousuke  alt-space here
[11:24] <Chousuke> ah, indeed.
[11:25] <Chousuke> It never indicated its existence when I launched it.
[11:25] <Chousuke> and the manual page was not helpful
[11:25] <Hobbsee> !katapult
[11:25] <ubotu> katapult is, like, an application for KDE designed to provide faster access to applications, bookmarks and other items. Once you've installed it, alt+f2 ->katapult, then hit Alt+Space. When splash screen appears, type the command you want.
[11:25] <petz> hi, xfce has jsut crashed twice on me and k isn't working
[11:25] <Hobbsee> that has more info on it...
[11:25] <petz> well it's something to do with kdeinit
[11:26] <petz> AND dcop
[11:26] <Hobbsee> petz: try deleting the dcop files, .xauthority, and .icesomething from your home dir, and try again?
[11:27] <Delvien> hey guys anyone get VMware running in Dapper under 2.6.15-10-386 kernel?
[11:28] <Hobbsee> i havent tried
[11:31] <_joshua> how do i get into my etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <BoBBy> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:31] <petz> use an editor, nano or kate
[11:31] <BoBBy> or vi :)
[11:32] <_joshua> it wont open it with Kate
[11:32] <sampan> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:32] <petz> well, I usually nano it
[11:32] <sampan> or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:33] <ari_> guys, Kynaptic won't let me update Wine, could someone help me out?
[11:33] <apokryphos> kynaptic sucks; upgrade to breezy
[11:34] <petz> Hobbsee, can't rm .xauthority, no such file
[11:34] <ari_> how do I upgrade to Breezy?
[11:34] <Hobbsee> petz: .Xauthority
[11:34] <Hobbsee> !+upgrade2breezy
[11:34] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:34] <Hobbsee> ari_: ^
[11:35] <petz> Hobbsee, what about Xauthority-c and -l
[11:35] <Hobbsee> hmmm...i dont have those files
[11:36] <Hobbsee> i know that you have to get rid of .ICEauthority along with the dcop ones - maybe you dont need to delete the other
[11:36] <_joshua> ubuto: tell _joshua about restricted formats
[11:36] <petz> I can't find any of the dcop files
[11:36] <_joshua> heh
[11:36] <_joshua> tell me ubuto :p
[11:37] <petz> yah it's ok
[11:37] <_joshua> ubuto: tell _joshua about Restricted Formats
[11:37] <petz> Hobbsee, what about can't contact kdeinit
[11:38] <Hobbsee> google it
[11:38] <Hobbsee> i guess
[11:41] <petz> Hobbsee, anyone, what's qt package? read something in some linuxquestions.org
[11:41] <Hobbsee> qt is the engine that kde is built on
[11:41] <Hobbsee> there are lots of qt packages...
[11:42] <ari_> guys, kate keeps krashing on me :(
[11:43] <Hobbsee> ari_: try using kwrite instead
[11:43] <ari_> okay
[11:45] <_joshua> hmm
[11:46] <_joshua> i have just reinstalled and now everything seems really slow and the letter m is very odd looking
[11:46] <_joshua> :(
[11:46] <_joshua> heh
[11:50] <xst> kde3.5 is out for kubuntu - but is it still unstable or is it safe to upgrade (using breezy)?
[11:53] <nalioth> xst: it is safe. (safe as anything else, anyway)
[11:53] <xst> ok, thanks
[11:55] <petz> does anyone know the forum experts-exchange?
[11:55] <petz> I've found a post with exaclty my problem but I can't view the solution
[11:57] <Shadyman> Moo
[11:57] <Shadyman> How goes, all?
[11:57] <xst> In http://tinyurl.com/dlrf9 I don't understand this sencence: "The packages are being uploaded to Dapper, many packages in Dapper are currently uninstallable due to a c++ transition." What is Dapper and should I worry that many packages are uninstallable?
[11:57] <Shadyman> Dapper is the new version of Ubuntu that they're working on.
[11:59] <xst> So I shouldn't worry, running breezy?
[11:59] <Shadyman> xst: Exactly.
[11:59] <xst> Cool
[11:59] <Shadyman> They're just saying that not a lot of things work in Dapper yet.
[12:00] <Danl[1] > has anyone heard of a livecd causing a drive to become unreadable, even after the livecd is removed?
[12:00] <Shadyman> Danl[1] : Only if the lens in the drive was bad
[12:00] <Shadyman> Danl[1] : Or the connection became unconnected
[12:01] <Danl[1] > sorry, let me clarify, the livecd caused the hdd to stop working
[12:01] <Shadyman> Oh. Unless you mounted the hard drive and used a partition program, no.
[12:01] <Danl[1] > thats what i thought to, but a friend used the livecd and now bios doesn't see the hdd
[12:02] <Danl[1] > I never had a problem out of the livecd or the install cd... but ya know
[12:02] <Danl[1] > wanted to ask :-)
[12:02] <Shadyman> OK :)