[12:10] <Xenguy> Hi - I was asked to file a bug for the Ubuntu 'alsa-source' package...
[12:11] <Xenguy> I assume that launchpad is the correct place as alsa-source is in Ubuntu 'Universe'...
[12:11] <mdke> that's right
[12:12] <Xenguy> I see other 'alsa' related software mentioned on Launchpad; should I " register a new product" for alsa-source, to file this bug report?
[12:14] <mdke> no, file the bug under the alsa-source package in the Ubuntu distribution, if it's there
[12:15] <mdke> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver
[12:17] <Xenguy> mdke: thanks (first time filing a bug)
[12:17] <mdke> no problem
[12:17] <mdke> the distro/upstream distinction in launchpad is a bit confusing at the moment, in my opinion
[12:19] <Xenguy> mdke: sorry, I'm still unclear...
[12:19] <mdke> shoot
[12:20] <Xenguy> the DEB in question was 'alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb' -- 'crimsun' in #ubuntu asked me to file the bug and he would follow-up upstream...
[12:21] <Xenguy> so https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver is still the correct place to file the bug?
[12:21] <mdke> where did you get the DEB?
[12:21] <mdke> that's the version in Ubuntu dapper, so if you got it there, that's the right place
[12:21] <Xenguy> mdke: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-dr
[12:21] <Xenguy> iver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb
[12:22] <mdke> ok, then that is the right place
[12:22] <Xenguy> (I got the URL from crimsun)
[12:22] <mdke> it's the dapper package
[12:22] <Xenguy> OK, thank you again, I'll try my best to get this right then :-)
[12:22] <mdke> np
[12:22] <mdke> crimsun can always sort it out ;)
[01:13] <jamesh> Xenguy: the bugs are filed against source packages.  If you run "apt-cache show alsa-source" and look for the "Source" line, it says alsa-driver
[01:32] <Xenguy> jamesh: thanks for the tip (this is all a bit new and over my head truthfully, but I'll try to absorb what I can :-)
[01:32] <Xenguy> Anyways, bug report filed
[01:59] <jamesh> Xenguy: if you run "launchpad-integration --package=binary-package-name --info", it will open the Launchpad info web page for the corresponding source package
[01:59] <jamesh> (the same as the "get help online" menu items in GUI apps
[02:46] <jblack> sivang: I'm here 
[05:25] <Xenguy> jamesh: tx
[06:17] <Burgundavia> jamesh, seems I wrote some code that didn't survive the y26 bug. I reports today at Jan 31
[06:17] <Burgundavia> s/I/it
[06:18] <jamesh> Burgundavia: this was a test for the PO file generation in rosetta: Turns out that the comments at the top of the PO files no longer read "Copyright 2005"
[06:18] <jamesh> :)
[06:18] <Burgundavia> oops
[06:39] <dilys> Merge to devel/launchpad: [trivial]  undo the backouts PQM performed when merging cprov's branch (r2949: James Henstridge)
[09:07] <sivang> jamesh: there's probably a need for a refactoring script that will add 2006 for COpyrights :)
[09:07] <sivang> Good Morning Launchpadders :)
[09:14] <Burgundavia> sivang, someone was looking to contact you about sbackup. Did they do so?
[09:18] <sivang> Burgundavia: Kyral ?
[09:18] <Burgundavia> sivang, nope, somebody else
[09:18] <sivang> Burgundavia: I told him to email me / pm me, he still hand't done so. There was another one, he didn't contact me yet.
[09:19] <Burgundavia> sivang, ok, no skin off either or our backs
[09:19] <Burgundavia> s/or/our
[10:18] <carlos> morning
[10:18] <carlos> happy new year ;-)
[10:22] <jamesh> hi carlos
[10:23] <jamesh> carlos: I fixed one of the rosetta tests to pass in 2006
[10:23] <carlos> hmm
[10:23] <carlos> which one?
[10:23] <jamesh> poexport-distrorelease-date-tarball.txt
[10:24] <jamesh> the generated PO and POT files now read "Copyright 2006" rather than "Copyright 2005"
[10:24] <carlos> oh
[10:24] <carlos> right...
[10:24] <carlos> thanks 
[11:10] <jblack> sivang: still around?
[11:11] <sivang> jblack: yeah my man, how are you? :)
[11:11] <jblack> sivang: Good, good. And you? 
[11:12] <sivang> jblack: not bad at all, I got me self a working headset, and even tested it with skype last night. So when you can, we may schedule another session.
[11:12] <jblack> Ohhh! Neato.
[11:12] <jblack> I just finished Rocketfuelwhatever
[11:12] <jblack> I still need to get it and pqmsetup vetted by the apprpriate people though.
[11:13] <jblack> I had a real uh-duh! moment earlier. I realized that a bunch of my more complicated commands could be replaced by a real simple mv operation
[11:13] <sivang> you mean, the checkout script?
[11:13] <jblack> Yeah
[11:13] <sivang> eh, so that's the checkout script :)
[11:13] <sivang> ok, cool
[11:13] <sivang> then I could give it a good test this evening. (about 6-7 hours from now for me)
[11:14] <sivang> and we could fix the remaining bits, I suppose
[11:14] <jblack> Anyways, the holdup was how to deal with multiple branches, and dealing with the relationship with sub branches.
[11:15] <jblack> Then, DUH, I realized "Just move all of ~/ubuntu to the side and back. Soved
[11:15] <jblack> Solved.
[11:15] <jblack> Anyways, before you start using it, I'd like for Rob to look it over. 
[11:15] <sivang> heh, nice
[11:15] <sivang> np
[11:15] <sivang> either way I need to get home before
[11:15] <jblack> Ok. Just wanted to give closure. Btw, I'm done schedule shifting. I'm back on my normal schedule.
[11:15] <jblack> Get home, have fun. :) 
[11:16] <sivang> indeed. 
[11:17] <sivang> jblack: what's your normal schedule UTC btw?
[11:19] <jblack> I hold office hours from...Sat to Wed, 1800-0600 US.
[11:19] <jblack> That works out to 2300-1100 UTC
[11:20] <jblack> I'm usually around for about 3-4 hours in each direction after that.
[11:22] <sivang> k, cool. How do you get along working only night time?
[11:22] <sivang> (e.g. 1800-0600)
[11:38] <sivang> jblack: do you have any idea why bzr rm removed the file from the inventory (I think) but not from the physical directory?
[11:39] <sivang> jblack: so now, when I branch off the branch I don't get the file but it still resides on the physical dir.
[11:42] <SteveA> sivang: i do believe that bzr rm removes files from the inventory, but not the actual file.
[11:42] <SteveA> sivang: as in, that's how it is meant to work.
[12:29] <sivang> SteveA: ah fine then , "Working as designed" in IBM language :)
[12:29] <sivang> SteveA: Happy new year btw, how was your celebrations?
[12:30] <sivang> yo cprov , how was your new year's eve?
[12:32] <cprov> sivang:  not the best, but it was expectable ;), I'm getting old. and yours ?  
[12:33] <sivang> cprov: very calm , visited a couple of old freinds, had a very few drinks, and took a walk around town.
[12:33] <cprov> sivang: looks like something I'll try to do next time 
[01:12] <sebest> why is there no "won't fix" status in launchpad?
[01:38] <SteveA> sebest: we use the "rejected" status, and add an appropriate note in the status change text field
[01:39] <sebest> SteveA: ok, thanx for the info
[01:40] <sebest> SteveA: i had another question about launchpad, should i post it on the ubuntu-devel mailing list?
[01:53] <sivang> sebest: there's an launchpad-users list, you can use this better
[01:54] <carlos>  /me -> lunch
[01:54] <sivang> sebest: http://lists.canonical.com/mailman/listinfo/launchpad-users
[01:54] <sivang> carlos: bon appetite
[01:54] <sebest> sivang: in fact it's more a suggestion about handling package version number than a question
[01:54] <carlos> sivang, thanks
[01:54] <sebest> sivang: should i use -user or -devel ?
[01:54] <sivang> hmmm
[01:55] <sivang> sebest: you mean suggestion for handeling this in launchpad, I reckon?
[01:56] <sebest> sivang: yes
[01:56] <sivang> sebest: this can go in launchpad-users actually, it's basically users feedback and suggestion, so I think it's ok sending there. There are devel people reading it as well
[01:57] <sebest> eg: we could say "will be fixed in package-1.1", and when we upload package-1.1.deb , launchpad automatically send a mail, to ask if the bugs related to package < 1.1 are still revelant or not
[01:57] <sebest> ok, i'll post it there
[01:57] <sebest> thanx
[01:57] <sivang> sebest: thank you! 
[02:18] <ptomes> Hello, could somebody please tell me how is l10n import in rosetta form upstream handled? Why we (czech team) have many packages partly translated although we have them fully and correctly translated in upstream?
[04:12] <mdke> ptomes, it is carlos you need to ask about that, i believe
[07:49] <sivang> quite here today :)
[08:03] <sivang> jblack: around?
[09:18] <lifeless> morning
[09:32] <sivang> mornign lifeless , how was your new year's eve?
[09:38] <und0> hellow
[09:38] <und0> :P
[09:55] <lifeless> sivang: good
[09:55] <lifeless> sivang: did -nada-
[09:56] <sivang> lifeless: rested at least?
[09:57] <lifeless> yah