[12:02] ah.. nope [12:02] I'll remember sometime soon ;) [12:03] ajmitch: hi... what about banshee and ipod-sharp? ;) === jinty is just being a nag;) [12:03] jinty: join the ranks === slomo_ too === tseng nags ajmitch for good measure === ajmitch wonders what tseng has to nag about today [12:08] beats me [12:08] everyone else was doing it [12:08] slomo_: ipod-sharp has dropped a dbus dependency? [12:09] Version: [-0.5.12-1-] {+0.5.12-2+} [12:09] Depends: [-libdbus-glib-1-1 (>= 0.50), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.8.0),-] libglib2.0-cil (>= 2.3.90), libipoddevice0 (>= 0.4.0), mono-classlib-1.0 (>= 1.0) [12:09] yes [12:09] ok [12:09] this isn't mentioned in changelog, is it? :) [12:09] it is... the part about the .config file [12:09] * Install the .config file from ipod-sharp instead of our own now [12:10] doesn't tell me much [12:10] in older versions there was no config file for ipod-sharp so i've written my own... it used dbus in the old days [12:10] now i noticed that there finally is a .config file... and that it doesn't use dbus anymore [12:11] not that it'll make much difference [12:11] since banshee will drag in dbus [12:11] yes [12:15] slomo_: /usr/lib/banshee/Banshee.Dap/njb-sharp.dll does look like crack, right? === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-68-238-63-64.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] ajmitch: why? [12:16] is it the same as libnjb-cil has? [12:16] ajmitch: yes... and the ipod-sharp.dll is the same as in libipod-cil [12:16] crackful [12:17] I'm guessing this is because upstream does some stupid bundling [12:17] exactly... i had a talk with meebey about it yesterday ;) [12:17] yes, I saw some of that [12:18] iirc abock said that he does this because of unstable interfaces... but i don't understand him, he writes both libraries ;) [12:18] snorp really wrote libipod [12:19] yes but lately only abock makes changes [12:20] did you hear anything about 0.10.3 release date? [12:20] nope... maybe next thursday, he always releases on thursdays ;) [12:21] there is cool stuff in cvs [12:22] such as? [12:23] reworking plugins [12:23] there is more exposed, and you can enable/disable them [12:23] fixes to last.fm [12:23] are there new plugins? or is the last.fm still the only one? [12:23] there is a broken file system monitor [12:24] and a sample plugin that prints random songs [12:24] on the console === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@cpc2-cosh5-5-0-cust84.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:49] ajmitch: thanks :) [12:53] Anyone have plans to package the newest GNUStep? === luk [n=luk@108.49-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@www.wservices.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === seth_k_ [n=seth@ubuntu/member/sethkinast] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-89.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [n=jorge@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] hey slomo_ === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-203-76-59.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-68-238-63-64.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tim1 [n=Tim@dslb-084-058-192-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jerome@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crypticreign [n=crypticr@dsl092-069-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crypticreign [n=crypticr@dsl092-069-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@pcp02403042pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=nobody@warped.bluecherry.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] hey crimsun [04:25] Kyral: hi === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-68-238-63-64.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kyral happy [04:32] about easychem? === Kyral nods [04:32] yep, read earlier [04:34] Is it bad that this is causing me joy? [04:34] of course not :) [04:35] Oh in case Mez is listening, it builds CLEAN on Breezu [04:35] Kyral ... ? [04:36] easy Backport ;P [04:36] Kyral .... [04:36] joke ;P [04:36] ... ? [04:36] just tell him whether you want it backported [04:36] my first package got into the repos officually === nturner [n=nturner@dsl092-086-237.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:37] Actually I do need it backported lol [04:37] Lab Build uses it [04:38] and I ain't puttin' the lab build on Dapper [04:38] Kyral: then ask, in one easy sentence :) [04:38] yah yah [04:38] I'm hyper right now sheessh [04:39] Mez: could you backport EasyChem to Breezy? [04:39] depends [04:39] does it WORK in breezy? [04:39] I don't have a test case yet lol === Mez checks for FTBFS [05:15] surely if somethings auto-synced from debian - they'd think enought o grab the new packages from debian that are deps of that package [05:20] Maybe the deps can't be synced, and need to be merged. === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable232.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _thierry [n=thierry@modemcable232.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sepheebear [n=SepheeBe@cpe-68-175-48-160.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.38.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457afde7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === luk [n=luk@56.8-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-68-238-63-64.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-094-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@pcd302027.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:20] hm can I just sync eris from sid? [08:21] yes [08:22] the new package names in 1.3.9-1 take care of the NMU/libstdc++ alloc [08:22] we don't have to do anything on our side, so a sync is fine. [08:23] ooh, k then, was asking because I was worried about the Conflicts/Replaces thing [08:23] rocking :) [08:24] done [08:29] :) === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:05] hi robitaille :) [09:05] Hello zakame === poningru [n=poningru@pool-68-238-174-62.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] hm, ncmpc's already in debian, perhaps another sync candidate :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.38.1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p509256B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === joe_alf [n=joe_alf@pcd552232.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i577B1B5B.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] good morning and happy new year! :-) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-68-238-174-62.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] dholbach!!! happy new year!!! [10:02] hey dholbach [10:02] to you guys too [10:03] now go to work! [10:03] *grin* === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-242-100.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:07] hehe [10:07] jsgotangco: I have been! === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:08] ajmitch: we live in the future [10:09] I've even been working on my debian packages for a change [10:09] ajmitch, was that the sky I just heard falling? ;) [10:09] :P [10:11] so who helps me to write the motu report? ;) [10:11] umm [10:11] it'll be fairly short :) [10:11] 'merges, merges, and more merges' [10:11] merges indeed [10:11] still > 200 assigned [10:13] use triple verbs it seems to be the rage lately [10:13] ajmitch: speaking of debian, can you check my libmemcache for debian? its on mentors :) [10:13] merge. upload. rejoice [10:15] zakame: I can add it to the list :) [10:15] ajmitch: thanks :) === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee_@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] when/where do people figure the next Ubuntu dev conference will be? [10:21] Burgundavia: just after dapper is released, I guess. [10:21] Mithrandir, you figure may or end of April? [10:22] yes [10:22] iirc, that was what sabdfl said at UBZ [10:23] hopefully somewhere interesting, though I doubt I'll get to go to this one [10:23] hmm, I have an opportunity to talk at LinuxFestNorthWest on April 30, which last year was right int he middle of UDU [10:23] I expect I will have to bankroll my own way [10:23] ajmitch: why not? [10:24] same reason as Burgundavia [10:24] chances of sponsorship would be low [10:24] eh :) [10:24] sivang, we both got full sponsorship to the last one [10:24] same here then [10:24] Burgundavia: yes [10:25] I am actually cleaning out my email todo list [10:26] sivang: they prefer to sponsor people who are in the general area, and I won't qualify for that :) [10:26] ajmitch: do you know where will be the general area next ? :-) [10:27] not australia/nz [10:27] sivang, I heard rumours of Germany [10:27] I expect Europe [10:27] germany was suggested at UBZ [10:27] ah right, I think I remember now [10:27] it won't be the US [10:27] I hope not :) [10:27] I hope not too, but it is cheaper for me to get there [10:28] but I suspect we (NAers) are a minority [10:28] Burgundavia: true, for me it's sky rocking high :) [10:28] Europe is a nice compromise. Amsterdam, London and Frankfurt are cheap and easy to fly into [10:29] Burgundavia: I recall sabdfl saying something about Amsterdam as well [10:29] anywhere with seedy bars.. ;) [10:29] amsterdam would be sweet [10:30] of course, the pot is better and cheaper where I live... === DapperDrake [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:34] Asia is the future! [10:35] jsgotangco, sadly, Asia is not today [10:35] Burgundavia: sure but we'll get our jobs tommoro [10:35] w [10:35] :D [10:35] jsgotangco, you mean s/our jobs/your jobs [10:35] yeah [10:35] i'd like to package two libraries that aren't in universe or debian yet. upstream provides debian-packages, but how much of the debian-directory structure should be preserved? [10:35] thanks, but sales is not fleeing NA quite yet === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] jsgotangco, also somebody who works is Delhi cannot calm down a screaming Exec at 4:30pm on a Friday [10:37] well... [10:37] because only grovelling on the floor can do that === Burgundavia has had to do that, before in his support job [10:38] tepsipakki: depends on how good the upstream packaging is [10:38] tepsipakki: I've seen some where it was best to start from scratch [10:38] tepsipakki: have you consulted with upstream about getting their package into the Debian proper? [10:39] zakame: yes, no reply [10:40] I'm talking about libgssapi & librpcsecgss, upstream is the folks at CITI (umich.edu) [10:40] they compile nicely, so in theory they shouldn't need much work [10:41] compiling nicely is only the first step [10:41] Bruce Fields is the packages.. maybe I'll just ask him again [10:41] packager.. [10:42] tepsipakki: how about the license? is it good? [10:42] (no time for me to check, and too lazy :P) === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-77-199.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:43] humm, seems to MIT.. is it a problem? [10:44] not a prob, as MIT-X is DFSG-free unless I'm wrogn... [10:44] tepsipakki: have you also asked the ppl in #debian-mentors about this? [10:44] nope, I should? [10:45] tepsipakki: perhaps, as there are (already-existing) Debian pkgs :) [10:45] hmm, so what do I ask there?-) [10:46] tepsipakki: what you just asked now ;) [10:46] ok, I'll try [10:52] zakame: your blog should be on planet ubuntu too [10:52] dholbach: should I ping jdub then :) [10:52] zakame: yes :) [10:53] dholbach: ok, thanks! :D === ajmitch will soon be the only motu not on the planet ;) [10:54] ajmitch: you do blog? [10:54] I have a blog with little to no content [10:54] not worth putting on there [10:55] ajmitch: why the only one? :) [10:55] sivang: I was joking === hyakuhei [n=operativ@gentoo/user/RobC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.6.168.137] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@alabama.imag.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] hi everybody, happy new year [11:11] to you too [11:11] :) [11:16] I've reported a bug, but it seems to be a duplicate [11:16] What should I do ? [11:16] happy new year lucas [11:24] \sh_away: you overwrote my istanbul package and it depends on python2.3 instead of 2.4 [11:24] \sh_away: malone bug 6925 is yours to check, thanks [11:24] An error has occurred. [11:30] malone 6295, that is :) [11:32] oh yeah ;) [11:32] ok, there's my syncs requested for today.. [11:33] might as well cut down the outstanding merges a bit ;) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] hi ogra [11:41] hey ajmitch [11:41] happy new year [11:42] salut ogra [11:42] hey Burgundavia [11:43] Burgundavia: tu seulement parles franais toujours? [11:44] happy new year to you also, ogra :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:48] dholbach, non [11:52] wow did whiprush even attempted to sleep? === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c183070.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@bur91-2-82-231-159-240.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] jsgotangco, sleep is for the weak [12:04] tell that to someone past 30 [12:06] that doesn't include me [12:06] heh [12:06] :/ === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:09] being 23 has it advantages and disadvantages [12:11] sure === Burgundavia finishes the conversion of planet.u.c to planet.corey [12:12] oh dear [12:12] what junk are we getting spammed with today? ;) [12:12] awful things liek getting more people to join MOTU and the doc team [12:16] oh no [12:16] ajmitch, is there a better bittorrent client we coudl ship by default [12:16] we don't want more of them [12:16] preferrablly one that a) a single window [12:16] no idea, I don't use bittorrent [12:16] b)remember torrent files across reboorts [12:17] Burgundavia: what do we ship by default as of now? [12:18] raphink, gnome-bt I think [12:18] hmm [12:18] dunno this one [12:18] on gnome I think I'd use bittornado [12:19] which is light and reliable imo [12:19] and either qtorrent or ktorrent on kde [12:20] somehow it seems on this field qt/kde programs are more user friendly than gtk ones [12:21] I see there's gtorrentviewer [12:21] but I don't think this is actually a bittorrent client [12:25] Burgundavia: good work on the HelpingUbuntu pages :) [12:25] ajmitch, you think they work well? [12:25] yeah [12:25] I think that MOTUGettingIntoIt needs a bit of an overhaul [12:25] it's a bit sparse [12:26] we've got a mailing list now, etc [12:26] so does the doc team stuff [12:31] ajmitch, someone demoed a half finished bittorrent cliento n p.u.c some time ago. Remember who it was? === sebest [n=chatzill@sebest.ovibes.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] koke? [12:32] hmm [12:32] I know he had one [12:32] it isn't whiprush [12:33] http://koke.amedias.org/ for his blog [12:34] http://www.amedias.org/~koke/gnome-torrent/ [12:35] yep thats it [12:36] what is koke's real name [12:36] ? === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:39] ajmitch, & [12:39] ajmitch, ^ (yes, I can type, when the moon is full and the tide is high) [12:40] Jorge Bernal [12:40] it's there on the page [12:40] sivang, thanks for telling me I need to sleep. Is 4am here [12:40] too many bloody Jorges in Ubuntu [12:40] \sh_away, Riddell: what about eric/eric3 packages? eric3 seems to be broken - shouldn't it be removed? [12:40] hehe === Burgundavia goes out to shoot one [12:40] \sh_away, Riddell: please have a look at the eric* malone bugs [12:41] Burgundavia: go to sleep buddy, don't hurt yourself like I do :) [12:42] about time I went to sleep [12:42] got to bed at 7:30AM this morning ;) [12:42] indeed, morning all [12:43] bye [12:43] Burgundavia: night === markuman [n=markuman@p509256B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p509256B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:47] we really need a Universe Bug Day [12:47] bugs just PILED up [12:49] dholbach: i also noticed that some bug are fixed but not closed [12:49] eg, the bug was pending because fixed upstream, and the new upstream version came out, bug the bug is left open [12:50] sebest: if they're fixed for you, make a comment to "reopen, if they occur again" and close the bug. [12:50] thanks for noticing [12:50] i seems there is no way to know the version of the package when the bug was submitted [12:50] yeah, that's something i always ask first [12:50] dholbach: what should i do if the bug is fixed in dapper, but not fixed in breezy? [12:51] then you got yourself a backport :) [12:51] we generally close them. [12:51] if people complain, we can try backports [12:51] if they're serious to -updates [12:52] sebest: it should be mentioned probably on bug filing guidelines that a user should specify what version of the package he opened the package against, and provide him some brief instructions on how to do that. [12:52] until we get something for that in LP [12:53] LP? [12:53] dholbach: when do you want a bug day? next weekend? [12:53] I think it needs to be before UVF [12:53] sivang, in fact there won't be backport because the bug is not critical, so it will never be fixed in breezy [12:53] ajmitch: dunno - we should ask the desktop team as well [12:54] eg bug 3154 [12:54] An error has occurred. [12:54] eg bugnbr 3154 [12:55] there should be a way to say "won't fix in breezy" , "fixed in dapper" [12:55] hyakuhei: https://launchpad.net/ [12:57] sivang: danke === zakame [n=zakame@openwire.metawire.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] ok, sleep time, night all [01:04] ajmitch: night [01:04] who has the email address loic@dev.erodia.net? (I answered your comment on revu about audio-convert) [01:04] pef [01:05] k, thanks [01:05] gn8 ajmitch === pkern [n=pkern@debian/developer/pkern] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:10] hi pkern [01:10] Hi zakame (: === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-165-72.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] lucas: rubyversionslist is very nice indeed. Looking at the list utnubu would only have to upload three packages from Ubuntu into Debian, almost all other packages are up-to-date. [01:18] pkern: hmm, utnubu! how do I help? :) [01:19] pkern: the lsit is only about ruby-related packages [01:19] also, I don't think the goal is to upload all packages in ubuntu and not in debian [01:20] lucas: Well, depends on the view. Please look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=already-in-ubuntu;users=utnubu-discuss@lists.alioth.debian.org [01:20] I saw that === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] wb minghua [01:22] zakame: hello zakame [01:22] but what I'm saying is that a lot of quality checking must take place [01:22] having packages without active maintainers sucks [01:23] dholbach: can we discuss bug #4636 ? [01:23] An error has occurred. [01:23] it renders the package unusable on breezy [01:23] Ubugtu: what error? === greenpenguin13 [n=joseph@user-7279.l1.c6.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] so I think the severity is "major", not "normal" [01:23] (I was the one to set it to major, not the bug reporter) [01:24] hmm [01:25] utnubu is an alioth project aiming to merge ubuntu packages back to Debian when needed, right? [01:25] yes [01:25] ok :) [01:25] thank [01:25] s [01:25] raphink : yeah, "Doing with Ubuntu what Ubuntu does with us. Where it makes sense, at least." [01:25] lucas: I intend to merge libao-ruby to Debian, but as I just found a RFS for it on debian-mentors (dating back to 2004 though), I'll ask the maintainer if he wants to be sponsored. [01:26] pkern: I think it should be removed from ubuntu [01:26] lucas: Reason? [01:26] I mailed ubuntu-motu about this yesterday [01:26] Hmm, I thought utnubu also trys to get ubuntu-only packages in to debian, but I didn't look at utnubu carefully === lucas looking for the mail [01:26] minghua: That's right. [01:27] http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2006-January/000093.html === GanJ_L1Nk1n [n=vaslinki@83.172.28.245] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:27] RFS tend to be ignored, sadly enough. [01:28] then I'll ask the maintainer if he is interested in providing a patch so the pkg-ruby-extras team can pick it up [01:28] === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:29] Ok. [01:29] [01:29] argh, forgot the scim causing gaim crash bug... === markuman [n=markuman@p509256B6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:31] anybody here who has time to review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1282 ? :) [01:32] pkern: your current way of looking for packages in ubuntu not in debian seems broken to me [01:32] GanJ_L1Nk1n: ? [01:32] not all packages in that case have -0ubuntu versions [01:32] lucas: Please explain. [01:33] raphink: What? [01:33] GanJ_L1Nk1n: nothing, just wondering what you mean by ;) [01:34] raphink: it's russian language )) [01:34] GanJ_L1Nk1n: I speak russian so you can't cheat on me on this ;) [01:34] lol no luck ;) [01:35] unless this is a KOI/UTF issue ;) [01:35] ! [01:35] nope [01:35] doesn't look any russian to me ;) [01:36] where are you from?) [01:36] france [01:36] pkern: look at http://ox.blop.info/bazaar/rubyversionslist.html [01:36] ohh cool [01:37] libao-ruby isn't picked by your script since the version isn't -0ubuntuSHING [01:37] ;) [01:37] I'll add a filter to motutools to be able to easily remove packages from the output which have exactly the same version [01:38] then I'll generate the output with the whole of debian+ubuntu [01:38] lucas: By which script? [01:38] lucas: It's in both versiondiff and missing-packages? [01:39] - GanJ_L1Nk1n [01:39] I don't remember [01:39] in UTF-8 [01:39] maybe it was a grep-dctrl based stuff I saw yesterday in the archives === raphink wonders when there'll be keyboards that show the keys when you switch the keyboard type === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-9-82-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:42] raphink: speaking of russion, there was a russian iirc who designed such a keyboard [01:42] *russian [01:42] zakame: really? [01:42] I meant something like a screen/keyboard [01:42] that would print the characters on the keyboard when you switch kbd type/font [01:43] I think I've seen one actually [01:43] but it was still experimental [01:43] and was to be solf for about $150 or so [01:43] I remember reading about a keyboard that actually have a LCD for each key and will show the character on the LCD that correspond to the current keymap [01:43] mhm [01:43] raphink : yes, that's the one [01:43] oki :) [01:43] probably the same thing raphink is talking about [01:44] I also heard that with the new technology allowing to detect where a sound comes from with 2 or 3 detectors on a board [01:44] it was possible to make just one screen [01:44] and have people type on the screen [01:44] so the position where they typed would be detected [01:45] zakame: that's the one you're talking about, no ? http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/ [01:46] me checks [01:46] yep [01:46] dholbach: ping [01:46] :) [01:47] http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/answers/ [01:47] lol [01:47] It will be an open-source keyboard, SDK will be available. [01:47] :D :D :D [01:48] w00t [01:48] Keys could be animated when needed. === GanJ_L1Nk1n [n=vaslinki@83.172.28.245] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:48] huhu [01:48] There's no snow in Moscow in summer. [01:49] useful info [01:49] I love this layout http://www.artlebedev.ru/portfolio/optimus/hi-res/keyb_blank.tif [01:49] very useful [01:49] :) [01:49] and really worth buying such a keyboard :) [01:50] somebody should obviously make it possible to display regular X applications on it. [01:51] hmm [01:51] you mean the shortcuts ? [01:51] just like the show the photoshop commands [01:52] no, you should be able to put your xterms on it. [01:52] that'd be cool [01:52] hahaha [01:52] Mithrandir : w00t [01:52] Mithrandir: hi [01:52]