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foampeacewhich debian repo is comparable to breezy?12:00
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ I think ill just wine what I need, anyone know how well wine works with flash 8?12:00
polpaks0n1cm0nk3y, the slang context is offensive however12:00
SnurfI have two hard drives, and i want to install ubuntu to one of them. Do I burn an image of the download from the website and boot from it? And does it give me an option which hard drive to install to?12:00
hydroksydem4rtin, or better yet, buy a router... they just work12:00
s0n1cm0nk3ypolpak, well forgive me for my tresspasses then12:00
FranzHow to upgrade to kernel 2.6.14 ? by self-compiling or is there a packet to get?12:00
poningruhydroksyde: yeah dude that should work, but it will be slow12:00
polpaks0n1cm0nk3y, certainly will12:00
hydroksydeSnurf, sure12:00
hydroksydeponingru, faster CPU maybe?12:00
skonfoampeace: they are mostly incompatible, I've herard12:00
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, i don't know.  but if you have tips on wine'ing shockwave, my little sister will stop whining and start wine'ing. :)12:00
poningruhydroksyde: look into xubuntu12:01
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SnurfIt does give me the option in installation hydrosyde?12:01
s0n1cm0nk3ypolpak lol ok, to correct myself, windows is being the BSOD ridden OS that it is12:01
hydroksydeSnurf, yeah, it does12:01
Snurfok ty12:01
MickMcMackWhy do I have "sister" on highlight? O_o;12:01
polpaks0n1cm0nk3y, indeed12:01
ompauls0n1cm0nk3y, it was a bit morelike this: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ <-- we try to encourage this12:01
LiGhTeNiNponingru: well I have tried 'sudo dhclient eth0' command and configuring it with KDE's own tools but still no connection12:01
foampeaceskon: if you went debian which repo would you pick?12:01
blkknyghtHi all. I am trying to install ubuntu to a Dell Poweredge server with megaraid, but it won't detect the drives.12:01
m4rtinhydroksyde: it's not my pc, and therefore, I dont deside what they should buy. But a router is a quite good sulution. Not so expensie.12:01
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ lol, clever, did you apt-get flash12:01
polpaks0n1cm0nk3y, wine works very well for many things12:01
Pygi!patience12:01
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:01
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ had to catch myself, Im on my gentoob ox right now, and I was about to say emerge12:01
s0n1cm0nk3ylol12:01
poningruFranz: you kinda have to compile it yourself12:01
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, shockwave != flash, right?12:01
skonfoampeace: you mean under Debian or under Ubuntu12:01
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hydroksydem4rtin, yeah, routers just work. So do serial modems12:02
foampeaceskon: debian like a breezy12:02
eric_I tried to reinstall but I get "E: Invalid operation12:02
Franzponingru, thanks. This means, there is no way to get it by apt-get....12:02
foampeacewhat in debian is closest to breezy12:02
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polpaks0n1cm0nk3y, I prefer to use the winehq repos to the universe ones as they are more up to date, but it's a personal preference12:02
poningruFranz: you can wait till april 0612:02
skonfoampeace: breezy is based off debian12:02
naliothfoampeace: the source code12:02
poningruFranz: it will be availble in apt-get then12:03
s0n1cm0nk3yompaul, ah, well forgive me then, I used to use ubuntu, but havent really gotten back to it, im still working around distros, as for homosexuality, no issues there, I am quite open minded, and have a gay amigo, so please, try not to typecast me12:03
andrew_foampeace, i think ubuntu exists as a debian-based distro precisely because it's not like debian. :)  seriously though, i dunno.12:03
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skonwayyy off topic dudes12:03
Franzaha - ok till april will not wait ;-), will compile it  - thanks for your helping!12:03
Pygiandrew: huh :))))))))))12:03
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ if your talking about playing shockwave or flash games, then yes, Ive had it work for some, any chance you can tell me what shes whining about?12:03
SteveStevingsanyone know how to install a font? (ive tried copying it into .fonts and restarting but my font doesnt show up...)12:03
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poningruFranz: look around wiki.ubuntu.com it should have some helpfull hints12:03
Pygiubotu tell SteveStevings about fonts12:04
sexcopter8000mhi, i'm using vlc, and all wmv/asf stuff seems to only play the audio, any ideas?12:04
sexcopter8000mi have w32 deb installed12:04
Franzwill do! Have a nice time..12:04
Pygithere Steve :)12:04
arnuvis#santiago12:04
Franzbye..12:04
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andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, she's not really whining; that only served the pun.  but she likes internet games, specifically one called "save the sherriff".12:04
Pygicopter: !patience12:04
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LiGhTeNiNPygi: maybe you know how I could get my connection working under kubuntu, I have a router (dsl+router)12:04
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ and as for the windowss dilemma, Im going to get rid of anyways next time I install gentoo, which might be soon considering the fact that I think i screwed up somewhere i user permission sets, either that or the system fudged up, because its even restricting root12:04
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skonIs it true there is no support for Shockwave under linux?12:04
PygiLightenin: I have the same router....12:04
ManifoldHey, do the w32 codecs only work with MPlayer?12:05
naliothskon: at this time, yes.12:05
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polpakManifold, no12:05
napstar567hey guys am having a little trouble with mplayer12:05
skonnalioth: does that include flash?12:05
ManifoldWhat about amarok?12:05
naliothManifold: they work with any player that uses mplayer engine12:05
polpakManifold, they work with totem-xine as well12:05
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ im guessing this save the sheriff is on a collaborative website, such as albino blacksheep, all funny stuff, or ebaums world?12:05
sexcopter8000mPygi, ???12:05
PygiLightenin: connected with regular ethernet cable , and it worked out of the box once I set up the ethernet interface :12:05
ankerklankerin system admin networking try setting up for dhcp12:05
naliothskon: flash works if you have an x86 box12:05
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Pygi!patience12:05
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:05
sexcopter8000m!patience12:05
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, it's on primarygames.com... i'll get you a URL if you want.12:05
Pygino, do not abuse it copter12:05
skonnalioth: I can look at flash movies, but they have no sound. off the top of your head is there any known problem with this or is it my configuration?12:06
yonihow can I get the TIFF dev lib?12:06
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ sure fire it away12:06
LiGhTeNiNPygi: interesting, I'm using kubuntu live cd and it just wont work12:06
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polpakskon, I've heard of it happining before, but I'm not sure why12:06
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s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ what browser is she using btw?12:06
naliothskon: i've seen the question asked in here often, have seen no solution presented (you might ask crim$sun, when he is around)12:06
polpakskon, flash plays fine with sound on all of my systems12:06
Pygilightenin: huh, not the live cd :/ it is known not to work under live cd....12:06
skonnalioth: okay thought so...thanks12:06
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napstar567can someone tell me why my audio and video do not sync12:06
gerald-voltis theer a program similar to dap for linux?12:06
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, well, we're on FF that installed with ubuntu.  but i could put opera or something else on too.12:06
LiGhTeNiNPygi: not at all?12:06
Pygilightenin: don't you have kubuntu/ubuntu installed?12:07
Pyginop12:07
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skongerald-volt: you mean download accelerator plus?12:07
jackobillhelp I can't get in my main user anymore... I get this as error : http://pastebin.com/48646912:07
gerald-voltskon: yes12:07
poningrunapstar567: you mean all audio/vid?12:07
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ , I use firefox too, I was just checking to make sure we had the same browswer12:07
LiGhTeNiNPygi: no I don't have.. yet, just wanted to check out first12:07
s0n1cm0nk3ybrowser*12:07
Pygi.12:07
skongerald-volt: there are plenty of similar extentions for firefox you can download off their site12:07
Pygilightenin: it will work with installed version for sure....12:07
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gerald-voltaight12:07
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LiGhTeNiNPygi: okay, thanks :)12:08
Pyginp12:08
Pyginow I go away :)12:08
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ speaking of firefox, i wonder why neither gentoo, debian, or ubuntu have taken it out of testing yet12:08
polpakjackobill, sounds like you need to reconfig your X server, and/or possibly your tcp settings12:08
OpazaElzer Strae 2  412:08
napstar567i mean the sound is faster than the video12:08
LiGhTeNiNponingru: thanks to you too, I guess I'm installing it then12:08
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jackobillpolpak : how?12:08
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polpakjackobill, you can log into your accound via the console by using ctrl-alt-f112:08
ibmnotebookiwlist scan funktioniert mit meiner wlan karte. signal in gnome wird aber immer mit 0 angezeigt... wieso?12:08
poningruLiGhTeNiN: yep sorry couldnt help more12:08
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, i use arch personally and it's generally pretty current with versions (no release schedule, much like gentoo) and it doesn't have it either.12:09
poningrus0n1cm0nk3y: its because too much depend on it12:09
Opazaubuntu crashes so often! waht can i do?12:09
s0n1cm0nk3yponingru, ah12:09
nalioth!de12:09
ubotuwell, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de12:09
napstar567upgrade12:09
jackobillpolpak : yes, but how do reconfig X server and tcp?12:09
ibmnotebookiwlist scan works with wifi card. why does the graphical interface always tell me, that the signal is 0?12:09
polpakOpaza, look to your hardware.. I have had no crashes with Ubuntu12:09
poningrus0n1cm0nk3y: once 1.9 comes out and xulrunner can be run without firefox...12:09
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ ah, i was talking to someone about archs package system, Im a big fan of apt-get and portage myself12:09
poningruOpaza: what hardware are you running?12:09
Opazapolpak: it's new hardware, it's on the compatibility-list12:10
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, i am too, but i hated compiling.  we're way OT here... feel free to PM me.12:10
napstar567can someone tell me how to tweak mplayer to sync my a/v12:10
s0n1cm0nk3ypolpak Opaza, I had issues with lag on ubuntu12:10
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nalioth!offtopic12:10
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!12:10
ibmnotebookis there any wlan management or installation software for ubuntu (gnome)12:10
poningruOpaza: what do you mean crashing?12:10
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, as for the game URL, it's http://www.primarygames.com/arcade/savesheriff/index.htm12:10
Opazakernel panic12:10
poningruibmnotebook: plenty, wifiradar etc.12:10
andrew_Opaza, default kernel or did you roll your own?12:11
polpakOpaza, well that's definately indicitive of hardware misconfiguration or damage12:11
Opazadefault kernel12:11
poningruOpaza: thats weird, its porbably hardware damage, most likely mem12:11
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Opazawindows doesn't crash on teh same system. why?12:11
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ yeah same problem for me on that game, as for compiling, meh, I just emerge huge stuff like xorg overnight, or during a movie, my systems fast enough to get stuff done in good time12:11
chris__does anyone know how i could get an older version of ubuntu with the 2.4 kernel...  I just installed breezy, but the only sound card driver that i can find that will work for me only supports the 2.4 kernel12:11
napstar567hey poningru: do you know any tweak that can help me mplayer perform better12:11
nowlinreboot12:12
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ibmnotebookponingru does wifiradar also help me to resolve my wifi problems? or does it need a working configuration?12:12
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, i don't think getting wine to work with it would be worth it. :)12:12
poningruibmnotebook: it would need a working config12:12
jackobillhow can I reconfigure my xserver?12:12
poningrunapstar567: whats wrong with it?, jerky playing etc.?12:12
teprrrhmm, where are the development stuff of dapper drake going on?12:12
napstar567yep12:12
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ any chance you know a good open source flash prog?12:13
andrew_jackobill, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server12:13
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, no idea.12:13
SnurfIs ubuntu compatible with WiFi? Will it work with my Internal wireless network card?12:13
napstar567the audio is faster than the video12:13
Opazahttp://happy.new.year.mrdelayer.com/12:13
andrew_Snurf, most likely, depends on the driver for your card.12:13
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ that sucks, oh well, as for your shockwave dilemma, check the forums, maybe someone can help you find a work around12:13
SnurfOk12:13
poningrunapstar567: try another vid player like vlc12:13
ibmnotebookponingru what can i do when "iwlist scan" works, but the card not?12:13
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poningruibmnotebook: have you looked through the wifi page?12:13
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, good idea.  i just gave up personally, but my sister would sure appreciate it. :)12:13
poningru!wifi12:13
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto12:13
napstar567you think that will help?12:14
v0taguzhi12:14
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ lol, im taking it that shes a little sister?12:14
napstar567cause i also tried totem xine and i get the same result12:14
poningrunapstar567: yeah vlc is sometimes a LOT better12:14
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v0taguzsomebody help me to configure Gtalk in Gaim?12:14
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, yup, 9.12:14
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s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ lol, good luck with that amigo12:14
ibmnotebookponingru different ones12:14
Opazav0tagz: yes12:14
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v0taguzo12:14
v0taguzOpaza,12:14
v0taguzhelp me please12:14
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ i personally dont have a little sister by blood, but I do have a bunch of girls who consider me their big bro12:14
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, my mom *loved* the fact that there's a gnome sudoku game but my sis is not quite interested in that. :-P12:15
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andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, nice. :)  sisters are great... most of the time. :)12:15
s0n1cm0nk3yandrew_ lol, ah, my dads biggest concern was can I check my mail?, can I open word documents? lol, and yeah they can be, I have a big sister, Im the little one in the family, though being 18 right now im not really little12:15
polpaks0n1cm0nk3y, you talking about tetrivex?12:15
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s0n1cm0nk3ypolpak ?12:16
eric_ubuntudo u know a program that works with a web cam??12:16
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gerald-voltAnyone know a similar program to bufallo for the hc11 micro-controller?12:16
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naliothandrew_: s0n1cm0nk3y: #ubuntu-offtopic awaits you12:16
andrew_s0n1cm0nk3y, yeah, i'm 22, so the difference... well, makes a difference. :)12:16
v0taguzOpaza,12:16
andrew_nalioth, sorry.12:16
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v0taguzyou know how configure it12:16
s0n1cm0nk3ynalioth, lol, sorry, but anyways, off, thanks for the help andrew_12:17
SturgeonThe default program to see pictures that gnome uses (EOG) doesn't recognize the format jpg (it tries to open it but it says it's an unknown filetype). What should I do about this?12:17
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polpakSturgeon, eog does recognize jpg files12:17
polpakSturgeon, most likely the file is missnamed12:17
SturgeonNot here.12:17
SturgeonNope, i tried with several files12:17
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cafuegoSturgeon: Open  aterminal, find the file, type 'file <filename>'12:18
polpakSturgeon, gthumb works too12:18
Sturgeoni can open it with any other image viewer12:18
Sturgeonlike gthumb12:18
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Sturgeonthe problem is with EOG12:18
polpakSturgeon, did you do as cafuego suggested?12:18
yaaarhey guys, are there really any soundcards out there that can can give me digital 5.1 output under linux? i'm having trouble finding any in the alsa matrix...12:19
Opazav0tagut: i can give u a good link, that works!12:19
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yaaarfor instance, the notes suggest that the alsa drivers don't support the digital outputs on even a single model of creative labs cards.....that doesn't seem right, does it?12:19
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yaaaryou can see what i mean here: http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix12:20
Sturgeoni can't do that12:20
Opazav0taguz: Still here?12:20
v0taguzyes12:20
Sturgeoni found what the problem is, i'm trying to open a file from another computer which is accessed by samba12:20
[cro] smileyhi all12:20
Sturgeonapparently eog doen't like that12:20
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polpakSturgeon, how odd12:20
v0taguzpass me the link Opaza12:20
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polpakSturgeon, did you mount the remote directory via smbfs, or is it using nautelus' vfs12:21
Sturgeoni went to places->network servers12:21
caryalright...i need some help.12:21
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Opazav0taguz: http://tinyurl.com/af4v712:22
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polpakSturgeon, you should check out smbfs + smb4k12:22
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polpakSturgeon, it actually mounts the directories to your home dir12:22
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[cro] smileyHow to run Warcraft3 with wine? I get error message: "Warcraft III was unable to find a CD-key."12:23
Sturgeonyeah, i've been trying to do that but i was unable12:23
Sturgeoni have problems12:23
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cafuegoNFS is nice12:23
caryi CANNOT for my life (3 different optical drives) get my PC to boot from cd with the ubuntu disk. it used to say a checksum error. installed a dvd-r drive, now it skips cd boot..it acts like its wants to then skips it. i am trying to configure my mac paowerbook to be recoganized as PXE to network boot to isntall ubuntu. any help?12:23
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polpak[cro] smiley, you need to use winecfg to set your cdrom drive to type cdrom rather than automatic or local hard drive12:23
Sturgeonsomeone told me to use mount //server/share -t smbfs /mountpoint12:23
Sturgeonbut that doesn't seem to work12:23
Opazahttp://tinyurl.com/af4v712:23
polpakSturgeon, other way around12:23
[cro] smileypolpak, thx ill try12:24
StyxAlsoHas anyone here tried to install mysql under Breezy? I get an error about dependencies on libdbi-perl.12:24
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pinkisntwellcary: it's obviously the cd to blame12:24
polpakSturgeon, mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint12:24
Sturgeoni tried that :)12:24
Drakenhow do i make stuff start up? Like commands,12:24
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[cro] smileypolpak, i did but nothing changes12:25
polpakSturgeon, be sure you apt-get installed smbfs12:25
Sturgeonpolpak: no success12:25
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bobbydhi12:25
Sturgeonlsmod shows smbfs12:25
polpakSturgeon, that doesn't matter12:25
Sturgeonoh ok12:25
bobbyddoes anyone here have real producer 11 working under ubuntu?12:25
polpakSturgeon, that just means the kernel supports it you need the binary progs to mount12:25
bobbydI tried to install it but the installer is broken12:25
MickMcMackAhoy!12:26
Sturgeonoh...12:26
Sturgeon:D12:26
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Drakenhow do i make stuff start up? Like commands,12:26
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SturgeonSo what does it mean that lsmod shows the smbfs module?12:26
polpakSturgeon, and I'd suggest apt-get smb4k12:26
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Sturgeon(apparently it wasnt installed, you're right)12:26
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polpakSturgeon, just that the kernel knows how to deal with it12:26
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MickMcMackAsking for a friend here, when he attempts to remove gij-4.0, it tells him it will uninstall oo and ubuntu-desktop. He needs Sun java1.5 however - so what can he do?12:26
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carypinkisntwell, well i have reburned the cd like 100 times. even reburned it at 1x12:26
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polpakSturgeon, you have to have kernel support for the binary progs to work12:27
[cro] smileypolpak, maybe the problem is that i have installed war3 on d drive not the c?12:27
Sturgeonpolpak: i installed smbfs. It worked perfectly now.12:27
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SturgeonThanks a lot.12:27
jdcaserockiesHow do i mke a canon IP 1600 work?12:27
pinkisntwellcary: maybe it's a problem with the iso, did you check it against its md5 sum?12:27
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mweconfiguring my AP I need my MAC address. is this the same that ifconfig calls HWaddr?12:28
bobbydmwe, yes12:28
mwethanks12:28
polpakSturgeon, sure thing12:28
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carypinkisntwell, well i cant figure out how to do that. im going to redownload the iso and reburn it one  more time. how can i md5 it12:28
jdcaserockiesAnyone know how to make a Canon IP 1600 work?12:28
bobbydjdcaserockies, `what is it? a camera?12:28
yaaarcan anyone recommend a soundcard that will give me spdif or toslink 5.1 output in ubuntu? hopefully cheap ;-)12:28
psusicary, from in ubuntu?  md5sum foo.iso12:28
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carypsusi, no, from windows 200012:29
carypsusi, i cant get ubuntu to install...sort of the problem12:29
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jdcaserockiesbobbyd, it's a printer12:29
cafuegojdcaserockies: proprietary drivers from canon in Japan12:29
cafuegojdcaserockies: Let me get you a HOWTO, just a moment.12:29
Smoked1is there a better ftp client then gftp? gftp sucks12:30
psusicary, google for "fastsum" it's an md5 sum generator for windows12:30
nik__hey is anyone here using their ipod with Ubuntu?12:30
cafuegonik__: yes12:30
pinkisntwelli'm sure you can find plenty of md5 checkers for windows. do a search12:30
nik__if so what software?12:30
bobbydjdcaserockies, have you installed the cups package and tried just plugging it in?12:30
carypsusi, thanks12:30
cafuegobobbyd: not supported12:30
bobbydcafuego, ahh12:30
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jdcaserockiesbobbyd, cups in installed if thats what you mean and it doesn't have toe right fdrober12:30
cafuegosame issue12:30
jdcaserockiesthe right driver**12:30
cafuego(working fine now tho)12:30
bobbydjdcaserockies, in that case, eityher wait for a driver (check the status of that) or buy another printer :)12:30
nik__so what software should I use for the ipod?12:31
cafuegobobbyd: Canon has released drivers,12:31
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cafuegonik__: gtkpod seems to work12:31
D1Smoked1, there is filezilla for linux that is OK..12:31
nik__ty12:31
D1also12:31
pinkisntwellcary: tell us your results12:31
D1there is IglooFTPD12:31
D1but its not free.12:31
D1although a good gtk2 client.12:31
jdcaserockiescafuego, where can I find these released drivers12:31
Smoked1D1: Ill give it a shot12:32
Smoked1gftp just really sucks ass12:32
carypinkisntwell, will do. itll take some time though. ive got 2 more hours of ISO downloading12:32
cafuegojdcaserockies: Have a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3899512:32
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D1yeah, it does.12:32
pinkisntwellcary: don't you have the iso already?12:32
D1its one of the only alternatives unfortuantely.12:33
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carypinkisntwell, yeah..i guess i could just md5 the one i have. haha.12:33
Draken!resulation12:33
ubotuDraken: No idea12:33
Drakenerf12:33
Drakenspelling12:33
D1http://gnomedesktop.org/node/254012:33
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D1screensots from filezilla12:33
D1its wxgtk12:33
pinkisntwellcary: you're confusing me, you said you'd burned it12:33
Linfanmy wifi led is not working is there a workaround for it in ubuntu12:33
D1but its adequiate, still alpha12:33
cafuegojdcaserockies: A company called 'powerprint' have also written drivers, but they are *payware*12:33
pinkisntwellcary: check the one you burned12:33
D1I'd recommend igloo its pretty spiffy.12:33
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LinfanDoes ubuntu have eye candy effects?12:34
Linfandrop shadow tec12:34
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bobesponjahey all12:34
Draken!resolution12:35
ubotumethinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:35
pinkisntwellLinfan: it does, you'll have to enable them though12:35
cafuegoLinfan: If you enable the memory-leaking X estensions, yes.12:35
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bobesponjaI'm trying drapper now, does anyone has problem with locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb while upgrading?12:35
jdcaserockiescafuego, the thread i looked at doesn't look like it supports the 1600, but should i try to compile for the 1500? Also, what;s the payware site just out of curiosity12:35
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Linfanhow do i enable them? im on a intel integrated graphics laptop will they still work?12:35
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cafuegojdcaserockies: Looking for the payware site.... for the 1500 you will most likely indeed need to compile the source package :-(12:35
andresalgun proghrama que sea bueno para grabar cd?12:36
jdcaserockiescafuego, ick      maybe I'll just go looking for another printer then...12:36
bobesponjaandres: ubuntu-es12:36
bobesponjaandres: #ubuntu-es12:36
andres:S12:36
cafuegojdcaserockies: The 3000 is nice ;-)12:36
andresok12:36
Drakenu guys know ubuntu`s founder is from south Africa :P12:37
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cafuegoDraken: Yes, we know.12:37
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ManifoldI didn't.12:37
Linfanno wonder he named it ubuntu12:37
Drakenya :P12:37
jdcaserockiescafuego, i'm a little low on funds now, that's my problem       Do you think you might be able to help me with an old officejet printer perhaps?12:37
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Linfanubuntu rules12:37
Linfanfock xp12:37
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nik__indeed12:37
cafuegoMind your language.12:38
Drakeni think we should be able to swear, if windows is in the sentence ?12:38
Draken:P12:38
nik__lol12:38
ajmitchnope12:38
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cafuegojdcaserockies: http://www.turboprint.info/12:38
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Mr_Milenkowhat if we swear in binary12:38
Linfanmartha fockers over at microsoft need to learn how to develop a stable and reliable os12:38
Mr_Milenkoor a ancient language12:38
Mr_MilenkoO_o12:38
StyxAlsoThen you'll be lame _and_ rude12:39
graymanlike hebrew?12:39
nik__hey are there any good p2p programs for ubuntu?12:39
graymanmutella is good12:39
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Mr_Milenkowhat about Ancient Greek12:39
Mr_Milenkoor Latin12:39
Mr_Milenko:D12:39
riddleboxI like gtk-gnutella12:39
ChousukeLatin curses.12:39
nalioth!offtopic12:39
ubotuofftopic is, like, totally, Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!12:39
Linfanso can anybody help me with "how to have the wifi led on my laptop working?12:39
dark_onei'm just compiling a new kernel on breezy and im getting huge numbers of warnings that the same kernel source didnt produce befroe i upgraded to breezy is this going to be a problem?12:39
Mr_MilenkoLIES! I get yelled at for cursing in offtopic12:39
Mr_Milenkolol12:39
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graymangtk? hah12:39
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graymanyou can turn on web interface12:39
Linfanso how do i enable drop shadow?12:40
jdcaserockiescafuego, thanks, but the 1600 still isnt in their list; I wonder if it's too new to be looking for a driver?12:40
PeteyPabloget up come on get down with the sickness12:40
cafuegojdcaserockies: The 1600 is a 1500.12:40
Linfani think that and the 3ddesktop i have will just leave people in awe12:40
ibmnotebookneed a deb for "wifiradar", ubuntu 5.1012:41
PeteyPabloLinfan: 3ddesktop ?12:41
cafuegojdcaserockies: Just renumbered for a foreign market. My 3000 is called a 3100 elsewhere.12:41
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jdcaserockiescafuego, ahhh      ok then, maybe i'll just bite the bullet and compile from source, even though i'll have absolutely no idea what I'm doing12:41
Linfan3ddesktop lets you switch from diffrent workspaces in a 3d enviroment12:41
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noirequusjdcaserockies: depending on what you are compiling, apt-get can do it for you12:42
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jenda-zZznik__: Frostwire and the torrent network (client = Azureus) are the best.12:42
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jdcaserockiesnoirequus, trying to install a canon IP1500 printer12:42
poningruwhile the torrent network is the best12:42
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PeteyPablojenda-zZz: agreed12:42
poningruazureus as a client is not a good one12:42
psusipassion even12:42
PeteyPabloLOL? azureus is very good12:43
Linfanwhere can i get limewire pro for linux12:43
poningruum right, bloatware12:43
poningruLinfan: try donkey12:43
jenda-zZzLinfan: Chuck the wiki :)12:43
StyxAlsoHas anyone successfully installed MySQL under Breezy?12:43
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psusiStyxAlso, yes... clicked install and that was it12:43
Acidic32how do i open multiple ports in one go using iptables?12:43
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Linfanedonkey?12:44
MadpilotStyxAlso: yes12:44
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pinkisntwellI noticed that azureus is very slow in linux12:44
Madpilot!tell StyxAlso about apache12:44
jenda-zZzfor Limewire... but googling for Frostwire will let you get rid of the ads12:44
psusiAcidic32, they are all open by default12:44
dark_oneStyxAlso: yes apt-get install mysql12:44
redguyStyxAlso: why won't you ask your real questiom?12:44
psusipinkisntwell, it's very slow on any OS... it's made in Java12:44
poningruLinfan: search for donkey in synaptic12:44
pinkisntwellpsusi: i used it in windows and it wasnt that slow12:44
Acidic32there not on my install, its locked down..12:44
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psusipinkisntwell, I watched a friend use it in windows... it was most definately slow... try bit tornado12:44
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pinkisntwelli'm thinking of going back to the deafult btdownload12:45
psusiby slow I don't mean the downloads either... I mean the app hogged memory and responded to the UI slowly12:45
StyxAlsoWhen I try to 'apt-get install mysql-4.1' I get Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable12:45
poningruin windows abc is pretty good, try rufus in gnome, ktorrent in kde12:45
psusithe gnome btdownload sucks too... it is insultingly simple... cant config it at all or get details on what is going on12:45
poningrupsusi: there are plans to add rufus12:45
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psusibit tornado is simple, but you can configure it and get details12:45
poningrupsusi: try ktorrent12:45
Bizzehhey, how is ubuntu's wireless support?12:46
poningruBizzeh: pretty good12:46
pinkisntwellanyone had problems downloading with btdownload?12:46
poningru!wifi12:46
ubotuwifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto12:46
Bizzehespecialy the ralink rt2500 chipset12:46
psusihrm... rufus eh?12:46
poningruBizzeh: out of box support12:46
BizzehYES!12:46
ManifoldMaths question!12:46
Bizzeh<312:46
ManifoldI have a 9x9 matrix12:46
Chousukematrices! yay.12:47
ManifoldIf I can rotate each one around four faces12:47
ManifoldHow many combinations are there?12:47
poningruBizzeh: make sure you start up the computer with the device plugged in12:47
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ManifoldI can also rearrange it.12:47
poningru!offtopic12:47
ubotuofftopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!12:47
Acidic32how do i open multiple ports in one go using iptables?12:47
mweManifold: 4^8112:47
StyxAlsoManifold, #math is a good place to ask questions like that12:48
Bizzehdo i want dapper or breezy?12:48
psusiAcidic32, unless you closed some in the first place, they are all already open12:48
psusiBizzeh, depends... do you want something that works, or do you enjoy beta testing?12:48
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Bizzehboth12:48
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psusiwell, if you are feeling adventeruous, give dapper a try... just don't be surprised when it breaks12:49
redguyBizzeh: you want both then12:49
mweBizzeh: in that case you need to machines12:49
psusiI've been running dapper exclusively for over a month12:49
Bizzehwhat version number is breezy?12:49
Manifoldmwe, how did you get that?12:49
psusibut sometimes things break12:49
psusiand I have breezy installed on another partition just in case12:49
poningruBizzeh: dapper is dev, breezy is stable12:49
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poningruBizzeh: breezy is 5.1012:50
Manifold"I have a 9x9 matrix, squares numbered 1-9. Each face of any square is different, and I can rearrange the squares in any order, how many combinations are there?"12:50
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saerdnaerhi12:50
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DonLHappy New Year12:50
saerdnaeris there also a german channel?12:50
poningru!de12:50
ubotumethinks de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de12:50
psusisaerdnaer, -de12:50
siglappyis there a howto on using 'suspend to ram' for 5.10 ?12:50
saerdnaerdanke ;-)12:51
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StyxAlsoWhen I try to 'apt-get install mysql-4.1' I get 'Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable'.12:51
psusisiglappy, yes... check out the howto section of the forums and wiki12:51
ThePyromaniacanyone know how to install new themes? i tried Ssytem -> Prefferences -> Themes and it says invalid file format on it12:51
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siglappyah ok thanks psusi12:51
ibmnotebookneed deb file for wifiradar12:51
MazinMy GRUB bootloader is giving Error 17 on startup12:51
Mazindoes anyone know how to fix GRUB?12:51
bakpaoibmnotebook : apt-get install wifi-radar12:52
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redguy!info libdbi-perl12:52
ubotulibdbi-perl: (Perl5 database interface by Tim Bunce), section perl, is optional. Version: 1.48-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 598 kB, Installed size: 1592 kB12:52
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mweManifold: there are 9*9=81 fields. if you had 1 there would be 4 combinations. if you had two it would be 4 for each of the four first ones = 4*4=4^2 for 3 fields you would have another 4 for each of the previous combinations would so that would be 4*4*4=4^3 so for 81 fields it's 4^8112:53
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ThePyromaniacanyone install themes? :(#12:53
ibmnotebookbakpao wifi-radar: package not found12:53
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mweThePyromaniac: themes for what?12:54
Bizzehgrabbin the amd64 dvd now :)12:54
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ThePyromaniacgnome themes. i downloaded some off gnome-look.org and tried instructions on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107022 but no luck12:54
Bizzehubuntu is stable enough on amd64 isnt it?12:54
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redguyStyxAlso: which version of libdbi-perl does mysql-4.1 depend on?12:54
mweibmnotebook: you need universe enabled to get wifi-radar12:54
dittmarhello12:54
ThePyromaniacmwe gcursor doesnt install themes like they said, and the systems -> prefferences -> themes doesnt work12:55
gnomefreakThePyromaniac, did you try art.gnome.org there is a app for it in synaptic :))12:55
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ibmnotebookmwe how can i enable universe?12:55
Drakenanyone know a good download manager ?12:56
mwe!universe12:56
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource12:56
sockpuppe1how do I regenerate my fstab12:56
mwesockpuppe1: type in the info you need in the file12:56
bakpaoibm : edit your /etc/apt/source.list12:56
sockpuppe1mwe  i just put in locations?12:57
ThePyromaniacgnomefreak, i will try12:57
mwesockpuppe1: and next time you mess with it make a backup first12:57
psusiSockerFot, with a text editor12:57
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ibmnotebookbakpao... but what source can i add?12:57
SockerFotpsusi aaah, right?!12:57
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ibmnotebookmwe hm... "!universe" and nothing happens :)12:57
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mweibmnotebook: please follow the link ubotu posted12:57
sockpuppe1mwe I was trying to fix my usb and deleted that12:57
Drakenguys, how do i get mplayer for ubuntu ?????12:57
andrew_i have my windows partition set up to automount, but now it always shows on the desktop.  i like that for removable media, but is there any way to remove that for specific drives?12:57
bakpaoin that file there must be a universe rep you just have to uncomment the line12:57
psusiandrew_, yea, don't mount it in /media12:58
mwesockpuppe1: you should _always_ make a backup before editing an important system file12:58
Draken!mplayer12:58
ubotufrom memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106112:58
andrew_psusi, hmm, seems easy enough.  i'll give it a whirl; thanks. :)12:58
sockpuppe1mwe so all i do is enter the location of the drives?12:58
redguy!tell ibmnotebook about universe12:58
Xer0_h4xDraken: you dont need to compile it12:58
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ANTEEY```SockerFot12:59
ANTEEY```^^12:59
=== Xer0_h4x loves xfce
SockerFotANTEEY``` YEAH12:59
ANTEEY```freebase12:59
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mwesockpuppe1: as well as mount point and mount options like in the other entries in the file12:59
bakpaodoes anyone has a good pdf book for shell script programming12:59
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Pygi!patience01:00
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.01:00
psusibakpao, try "info bash"01:00
gnomefreakabs is a good bash scripting guide01:00
Pygiwhat is kernel?01:00
ChousukePygi: a kernel is the core of the OS.01:01
PygiChousuke: really? what is a OS?01:01
gnomefreakabs is in synaptic and its very good :)01:01
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andrew_Pygi, you've gone mad, man!01:01
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redguybakpao: search www.tldp.org for bash scripting01:01
Pygiandrew: huh, who are you? :P01:01
ChousukePygi: well, some say an OS is the kernel, and some that an OS is a kernel and some basic userland utilities :)01:01
HericusPygi, smile.01:02
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redguybakpao: also there was a cycle of good articles in the linux journal01:02
PygiChousuke: huh, I don't understand a bit what you say :/ Is kernel for eat?01:02
Chousukeheh.01:02
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Chousukeapple kernels can be eaten, even though they contain cyanide.01:02
MadpilotPygi: in Linux, the kernel is the core of the operating system01:02
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Chousukeor hm01:03
Kyralin ANYTHING01:03
Kyralerr01:03
PygiMadpilot: huh, core?01:03
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ChousukeMadpilot: Linux _is_ the kernel01:03
BizzehChousuke: what?01:03
Kyralany OS the Kernel is the CORE01:03
andrew_psusi, good deal.  i'll restart again just to be sure everything will work alright.  thanks!01:03
Pygiwhat is a core?01:03
KyralPygi: lemme explain it this way01:03
Bizzehwhat was that about apples and cyanide01:03
ThePyromaniacguys, i cant get GNOME Art package to work, get stupid dependancy errors for ruby01:03
KyralPygi: When you save something, the program tells the kernel to write to the disk01:03
MadpilotChousuke: yeah, true, but too accurate for our purposes right now :P01:03
ChousukeBizzeh: I think I said it wrong.01:03
sockpuppe1mwe how do I get the drve to automount01:03
sockpuppe1?01:03
KyralPygi: the Kernel is the program that interacts with the hardware01:04
gnomefreakThePyromaniac,  if you get it in synaptic they will install it with all depends..01:04
Bizzehcan you say it right so im not scared of eating apples01:04
PygiKyral: huh, now you got me even more confused :P01:04
methohello01:04
ChousukeBizzeh: Apple kernels contain a chemical compound that transforms into cyanide during the digestion process. However, the amount is so small that you _can not_ die of it.01:04
mwesockpuppe1: put auto under options01:04
ThePyromaniacgnomefreak nope it wont, i private messaged you but it blocked it, hango n :)01:04
gnomefreakPygi, kernel=the base code for the OS01:04
Bizzehahh01:04
Bizzehthan thats ok01:04
sockpuppe1that was logical....01:04
mwesockpuppe1: and while you're at, read man fstab too01:04
Pygignomefreak: huh, who are you?01:05
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gnomefreakThePyromaniac, your not registered you cant pm anyone01:05
mwesockpuppe1: all the info you need is in there01:05
ThePyromaniacgnomefreak now i am01:05
gnomefreakwho am i?01:05
ThePyromaniaci was but didnt log in01:05
ChousukeBizzeh: you'd have to eat a whole cup full of apple kernels for it to have any effect01:05
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sockpuppe1i got evetything else down01:05
sockpuppe1thanks01:05
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Pygignomefreak: yesh01:05
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stevenjI guess not  I dont know looks like rain01:05
stevenjopps01:05
Pygiand I still don't know what a kernel is :P01:05
wizardjamesi have a prob , wavpack music files are not being noticed. on my install of ubuntu.   xmms , amarok , juk wont desply them in the list.    like it does not know what a .wv file is01:05
Pygiwizardjames, notice ubotu, thanks01:06
Pygi!patience01:06
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.01:06
ThePyromaniacgnomefreak thanks for helping, the only problem i have left with ubuntu is that its but ugly :D01:06
PygiPyro: change theme :)01:06
wizardjameswhat do u mean pygi?01:06
Pygiwizardjames: notice what ubotu told u :p01:06
MazinDoes anyone know how to fix GRUB Error 17?01:06
ChousukePygi: was wizardjames even repeating?01:07
wizardjamesyeah..but i dont understand.    i asked that like..  40 mins ago,   i thought maybe someone new was on might now.01:07
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redguyPygi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science)01:07
PygiChousuke: like 30 time already :P01:07
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stevenjdo most of you like xmms,beep or rythmnbox for mp3 player01:07
Pygiredguy: huh, I was kidding :/01:07
gnomefreakubotu tell Mazin  about grub01:07
Chousuke:P01:07
Bizzehargh01:07
Bizzehxmms01:07
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andrew_psusi, no dice.  it still shows on the desktop (it's now mounted on /mnt/windows)...01:07
Madpilotstevenj: Muine01:07
ChousukeBizzeh: hey!01:07
redguyPygi: oops, sorry didn't get it :-)01:07
Chousukerespect XMMS01:07
Pygiandrew: what seems to be the problem?01:07
Pygiredguy: hehe :)01:07
BizzehXMMS == nix winamp clone01:08
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stevenjMadpilot, I'll check it out thanks01:08
Chousukeit may be bad now, but it's only because it's got old.01:08
andrew_Pygi, i want my windows partition to automount but not to show on the desktop.01:08
zalaambmp > xmms01:08
Pygiandrew: well, that's easy (automounting)01:08
Chousukebmp likes to crash01:08
stevenjI just noticed that xmms is working on a rewrite and so is beep01:08
andrew_Pygi, i have it working already.01:08
ChousukeBMPx I don't know of.01:08
stevenjI'm sure its old news01:08
andrew_Pygi, but it shows on the desktop.01:08
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Chousukebut hell01:08
Chousukeit's late01:08
Chousuke02:08 AM ;P01:09
Pygiandrew: huh :/01:09
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Bizzehdo WORKING, hardware accelerated, ati drivers come with breezy?01:09
HrdwrBoB!ati01:09
ubotuhmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1001:09
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gnomefreakubotu tell Bizzeh about ati01:09
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Pygihuh, not  twice please :/01:09
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Bizzehbleh01:10
Bizzehno dns01:10
doug_greetings fellow ubuntuites01:10
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stevenjwow...breezy has the lastest Muine (then again I have bp) so maybe thats it01:10
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andrew_Pygi, my program: http://pygmy.berlios.de :D01:10
bobbydhi01:10
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Pygiandrew: huh?01:10
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Lord_Athurhi01:10
D1its all about banshee!01:10
ANTEEY```SockerFot01:10
andrew_Pygi, i wrote that MPD client.01:10
andrew_*am writing01:10
ANTEEY```haha01:10
bobbydis it possible to make /dev/hdc an ide-scsi device while my machine is running, or do I have to do it at boot time?01:10
Lord_AthurI've asked about how to mount an initrd files yesterday01:10
yyji01:11
Pygiandrew: huh, you took my name (almost( for it :/01:11
Lord_AthurI write sudo mount -o loop -t ext2 Banux/isolinux/initrd /mnt/a01:11
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doug_anyone know how to update aMSN..01:11
ibmnotebooktest01:11
andrew_Pygi, name for what?  and any idea about the desktop icon for windows?01:11
gnomefreakdoug_, if i remember you have to grab the tar01:11
Lord_AthurI recive01:11
Lord_Athuralejandro@NAOMY:~$ sudo mount -o loop -t ext2 Banux/isolinux/initrd /mnt/a/01:11
Lord_Athurmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop/0,01:11
Lord_Athur       missing codepage or other error01:11
Lord_Athur       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:11
Lord_Athur       dmesg | tail  or so01:11
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gnomefreakLord_Athur, no pasting01:11
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redguybobbyd: why do you want to do that? you don't need scsi emulation to burn CDs these days01:12
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Pygiandrew: notice the name: "pygmy" ....just try to remove "m"01:12
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andrew_Pygi, lol01:12
Pygiandrew: sorry, no idea for icon :/01:12
Pygiandrew: that aint funny01:12
bobbydredguy, yeah, but I need it for some crappy old app I'm trying to run under wine :)01:12
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Pygiandrew: you took my name :P01:12
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Lord_Athurgnomefreak,01:13
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naliothLord_Athur: please read the /topic (and use a pastebin for pasting)01:13
gnomefreakLord_Athur, ?01:13
mwedoug_: you know how to update your system, right? Do you mean like get a version that's not in the repos?01:13
redguybobbyd: I really don't know if you can do that, then.01:13
Lord_Athurgnomefreak, nalioth   I had to do that01:13
bobbydredguy, ok thanks01:13
ThePyromaniaccan anyone else help me install a theme from gnome-looks.org? I have baffled two helpers now01:13
andrew_Pygi, it happens to also be the name of a mail client written in PyGTK+, but it's long since undeveloped.  blame them. :-P01:13
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gnomefreakLord_Athur,  no you didnt you could have used pastebin01:13
skonIf I just installed a new kernel image, is it safe to uninstall the old one?01:14
doug_yes... everytime I open amsn... get an update notice... have downloaded the update... can't seem to doit01:14
Pygiandrew: someone's in big trouble cause of this....01:14
gnomefreakmwe the new amsn isnt in repos i wanna say its only in tar01:14
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Pygiandrew: you know python well?01:14
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Lord_Athurthen gnomefreak what can i do with my problem?01:15
mwegnomefreak: I see. do you know how to answer doug_'s question then?01:15
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gnomefreakall i heard the other day is its in tar he would have to compile it01:15
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gnomefreakubotu tell Lord_Athur about pastebin01:15
Pygiandrew: huh? do you know python well?01:15
redguyskon: boot with the new one, and if everything is ok remove the old one if you want to be sure nothing goes wrong01:15
gnomefreakandrew_, ubuntu=gnome01:15
gnomefreakin a way01:15
andrew_gnomefreak, lol01:15
andrew_gnomefreak, then can you help me? ;-)01:16
Lord_Athurok gnomefreak I understood01:16
gnomefreakandrew_, i dont know what seems to be the issue?01:16
andrew_Pygi, pretty well.  enough. :-P01:16
mwedoug_: however IMHO gaim or kopete is far superior to amsn. and not as ugly01:16
Lord_Athurbut what can i do with my problem?01:16
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doug_doesn't seem like anyone has an answer for me...01:16
andrew_gnomefreak, i like the desktop display of automounted media, but i'd like my automounted windows partition not to show up there.  is it possible to configure that?  (i've tried modifying the fstab entry from /media/windows to /mnt/windows, to no avail.)01:16
gnomefreakLord_Athur, paste it using pastebin give us the link and we can look at it01:16
Pygiandrew: wanna join me in making newsgroups client?01:16
skonredguy: seems to go well...01:16
gnomefreakandrew_, when did gnome get an automount?01:17
doug_mwe...will try IMHO01:17
mwedoug_: gnomefreak told you to install it from source. that of course involves learning to install something from source ...01:17
fr0xWhat is the best program to view video files? For example, WMV01:17
andrew_gnomefreak, gah. :-P  i'm assuming ubuntu uses gnome-volume-manager, whatever it's called.01:17
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gnomefreakdoug_, if you ask me what you have to do to get new amsn its not worth it01:18
apokryphosfr0x: xine, kaffeine, mplayer, totem -- take your pick.01:18
doug_have to brush up... some direction ... howtos?01:18
mwedoug_: IMHO is an abrevation for In Mu Humble Opinion :)01:18
mwedoug_: My*01:18
gnomefreakubotu tell doug_  about compile01:18
fr0xI see. apokryphos, can you recommand on a good one?01:18
Lord_Athurgnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/647101:18
evilghostfr0x:  I like xine or mplayer, be sure to get the w32codecs.01:18
doug_thank you gnomefreak01:18
apokryphosfr0x: I only use Kaffeine, but really they're all quite good.01:18
fr0xevilghost, I see, from where do I get this codec?01:18
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gnomefreakubotu tell doug_ about tar01:18
doug_having a time keeping up here01:18
bakpaoThePyromaniac : what do u want to install ? splash ? background ? GDM ?01:19
evilghostfr0x:  See http://www.ubuntuguide.org01:19
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fr0xI got totem by default, though it does not support this codec and I am wondering how can I get this codec installed.01:19
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apokryphos!ubuntuguide01:19
ubotuubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead01:19
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methoTO ALL: is it possible to use WINRAR on Linux01:19
andrew_doug_, good luck.  this is busier than #gentoo in my experience, namely because the chat herein is more worthwhile.01:19
gnomefreakLord_Athur, im not the mounting type sorry but the room should know01:19
andrew_gnomefreak, any ideas?01:19
Pygiandrew: so wanna help me?01:19
lucasvometho: why use winrar when one can use archiv manager?01:19
stoneagewinerar01:19
Xer0_h4xmetho: yes but its not called winRAR01:19
apokryphosfr0x: install w32codecs, or with kaffeine: kaffeine-xine01:19
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lucasvometho: you can open files generated by winrar01:20
Xer0_h4xmetho: sudo apt-get rar-nonfree01:20
gnomefreakandrew_,  not with that no :(01:20
ThePyromaniacbakpao well im trying http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=30846 thinking it was a total theme, but appears to be a splash. anyhoo i have found a way i think :)01:20
Pygik, I go01:20
methothanks01:20
Lord_Athuris there anyone knowing about how to mount an initrd file?01:20
andrew_Pygi, oh sorry. -_-  i don't do much with newsgroups, so i'm not incredibly interested in working on that.  i do have some other ideas though.01:20
ThePyromaniacbakpao ok cool splash works :)01:20
Lord_Athurthe problem is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471nl.org/647101:20
andrew_crap... anyone have an IM or email for pygi?01:20
methoLucasvo: do i need to install archiv01:20
fr0xapokryphos,  the question is from where I download this w32codecs, none of those players are coming with thie codec by their default?01:21
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lucasvometho: it's alreayd installed in gnome01:21
apokryphos!w32codecs01:21
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:21
Lord_Athurnobody???01:21
lucasvometho: but you need to install rar-nonfree01:21
gnomefreakandrew_, more than likely he will return01:21
lucasvometho: as Xer0_h4x01:21
lucasvometho: said01:21
methook, 1 mintue, let me try01:22
Lord_Athurdo you see it gnomefreak, nobody would enjoy opening a windows to see my problem01:22
bakpaoThePyromaniac : i think it is Login Manager01:22
andrew_gnomefreak, good, but i won't be around long. :-/01:22
gnomefreakLord_Athur, if they dont know they wont say anything if they know they will answer01:22
ThePyromaniacbakpao gdmsetup did it fine :)01:22
bakpaou must run gdmsetup with root01:22
bakpao:)01:23
methoLucasvo: i tried sudo apt-get rar-nonfree and i got invaled action error01:23
Lord_Athur01:23
SycheHow do you get the Battery icon back in the notification area? Instaled Gnome-power-manager but its buggy and now the default Ubuntu one's gone01:23
Lord_Athuryesterday more than one knew it01:23
gnomefreakif its something you wrote than it could be code seeing as it says missing sodepage :(( and this is not #programming01:23
methoLucasvo: i tried sudo apt-get rar-nonfree and i got invalid operation error01:23
Lord_Athurbut the difference must be the pasting way used for me01:24
Lord_Athurbye all01:24
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doug_going to do some brushing up on compiling.. thanks all01:24
doug_ps love Ubuntu...01:24
gnomefreakdoug_,  can i make a few suggestions?01:24
doug_sure01:24
lucasvometho: apt-get INSTALL rar-nonfree01:24
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fr0xE: Couldn't find package w32codecs01:25
fr0xargh.01:25
gnomefreakgood use checkinstall instead of make install and grab all libs that you need and run apt-get build-dep amsn01:25
meepyIs there anyway to make windows transperant?01:25
methoLucasvo: ok, 1 mintue, let me try01:25
doug_gnomefreak... go ahead01:25
gnomefreakbuild-essential01:25
bakpaometho : but INSTALL in lowercase01:25
bakpaoalso : install01:25
gnomefreakdoug read above :))01:25
fr0xah01:25
fr0xfixed01:25
methobakpao: ok thanks!01:25
doug_build-essential?01:26
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gnomefreaksudo apt-get build-essential01:26
gnomefreakopps01:26
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gnomefreaksudo apt-get install build-essential01:26
methobakpao and Lucasvo: didnt work, i got the following error (metho@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install rar-nonfree01:26
methoReading package lists... Done01:26
methoBuilding dependency tree... Done01:26
methoE: Couldn't find package rar-nonfree01:26
metho)01:26
gnomefreakmetho,  please use pastebin to paste01:26
doug_okay ...01:27
Peter__anyone here literate with a new 5.10 install, and attempting to get mysql and phpmyadmin working?01:27
gnomefreakubotu tell Peter__ about mysql01:27
Sychemeepy: what's your gfx card?01:27
methognomefreak: sorry, i will use pastebin from now on, first i need to find out how!! :(01:27
bakpaometho : that's mean the package doesn't not exist01:27
nik__anyone here using GTKPOD or another Ipod manager can help me out please?01:27
gnomefreakubotu tell metho about pastebin01:27
meepySyche: Intel Extreme Graphic01:27
nik__anyone?01:28
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methobakpao: do i need to install from the web than or do i need to enable something (sorry guys i am totally new to linux and ubuntu)01:28
lucasvometho: you need to enable the nonfree feed01:29
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lucasvo!repos01:29
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:29
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lucasvometho: ^ enable multiverse01:29
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nik__!easysource01:29
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:29
Peter__uh, is ubotu a robot or something?01:29
nik__yes01:29
Peter__i'm new here.01:29
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Madpilot!ubotu01:30
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.01:30
methoLucasvo: sorry but i do not know how to enable multiverse or nonfree01:30
doug_ gnomefreak... build essential... unpacking...are those compiling tools01:30
mwegnomefreak: teaching ubotu to tell people about pasting when they do shouldn't be too hard, I figure ...01:30
redguy!tell metho about repos01:30
Peter__so i'm trying to set up phpmyadmin to work with my mysql installation.  mysql is up and running fine, but once configured, phpmyadmin's index.php page is blank!  I have no idea of what's wrong.01:30
{alejandro}ok01:30
doug_looks like development pkgs01:30
{alejandro}has anyone gotten MythTV to work under Breezy AMD6401:31
lucasvometho: run synaptic, go to settings, repositories01:31
bakpaometho : try to find the debian package *.deb then use dpkg -i filename.deb01:31
lucasvometho: there you can select it01:31
bakpaoi don't use rar01:31
Sychemepy: Sorry was away01:31
methoLucasvo: thanks, i'll try now and will let u know about the results01:32
Sychemeepy: Check the composite thread on Ubuntu foums01:32
mwebakpao: neither do I, but I use unrar ocasionally01:32
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Sychemeepy: You're looking for transset01:32
gnomefreakyou need unrar with linux??????????01:33
{alejandro}I only use far for reading cbr archives01:33
{alejandro}*rar not far01:33
houseoftainteddoes any1 know a digital camera wizard for ubuntu???01:33
Kyralyou can use rar on linux01:33
Peter__ can anyone assist w.r.t. phpmyadmin configuration on a new system?01:33
{alejandro}yeah01:33
{alejandro}it's in multiverse01:33
Kyralhouseoftainted: gthumb, F-Sport01:33
Kyralrtt01:33
Madpilothouseoftainted: just plug it in, and see what happens01:33
KyralF-Spot01:33
naliothbakpao: debian packages can wreck ubuntu01:33
gnomefreakKyral, i know you can but i have yet seen a file.rar in linux01:33
naliothmetho: debian packages can wreck ubuntu01:33
{alejandro}so, once again, has anyne gotten MythTV working in Breezy AMD6401:33
KyralMy Manga downloads came in them01:33
bakpaonalioth : really ?01:34
{alejandro}Kyral, try installing comix01:34
bakpaometho : apt-get install rar01:34
{alejandro}Kyral are you using CBR archives?01:34
naliothbakpao: really.01:34
methobakpao: ok let me try!01:34
bakpaoas a root01:34
Kyral{alejandro}: they were plain rar01:34
cvt|gnuyeardoes anyone know how to get codecs to play embedded quicktime files?01:34
gnomefreakas sudo too :))01:34
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{alejandro}Kyral if you apt-get install comix and change the names to cbr instead of rar, it will stay compressed when you open it01:35
mwePeter__: just load phpmyadmin and log in01:35
Kyral{alejandro}: I already did it lol01:35
mwePeter__: asuming your lamp server is working that is01:35
{alejandro}Kyral ah ok01:35
sexcopter8000mhi, how do i determine what firefox uses to play video files? i have both the mplayer and vlc packages installed01:35
{alejandro}Kyral just search for rar in synaptic, it's there01:35
Peter__lamp is OK.  I have other PHP pages (phpinfo()) running.01:35
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Kyralsexcopter8000m: get the MediaPlayerConnectiveity extension for Firefox01:35
gnomefreaksexcopter8000m, it should tell you in the settings01:35
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Kyral{alejandro}: I know all about rar ;P01:35
apokryphossexcopter8000m: it uses mplayer; there is no vlc plugin01:36
{alejandro}Kyral I joined in too late. woops01:36
Peter__phpmyinfo is returning a blank page when I hit it.  This follows config attempts to have it use a http access control01:36
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methobakpao: thanks, it seems to me that installation went smoothly, would u mind telling me what i need to do next!!!!01:36
bakpaonalioth : thank you, i didn't know :)01:36
mwePeter__: well I just did apt-get phpmyadmin and went to the phpmyadmin page on my local machine and logged in IIRC01:36
LordMelkorcan i get some help01:37
LordMelkori think im havind driver problems01:37
sexcopter8000mapokryphos, i have found "mozilla-plugin-vlc"01:37
LordMelkorhaving*01:37
bakpaometho : nothing it is just text base command01:37
mwe!helpme01:37
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.01:37
LordMelkorwell i get01:37
apokryphossexcopter8000m: oh, perhaps there is one then.01:37
LordMelkoran I/O01:37
LordMelkorerror01:37
LordMelkorwhenever i try to copy files01:37
LordMelkorfrom my cd01:37
{alejandro}hey all, what is a good dvd ripper program01:37
LordMelkorto the hd01:37
Madpilot!enter01:37
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!01:37
methobakpao: but i can use this to extrat my files from winrar though, i mean using the gui01:37
LordMelkor.01:38
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bakpaometho : in our console type unrar01:38
bakpaometho : u will see how can u unrar01:38
bakpaoor rar01:38
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sexcopter8000moh hang about. i'm using ff1.5, maybe that's why nothing is happening :s01:38
MaFiaBoYI get this when trying to install anything : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/647201:38
methonalioth: why debian packages are bad for ubuntu01:38
lucasvometho: I go now, if you have problems, please consult: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#rar01:38
MaFiaBoYany ideas ?01:38
halibutWould ubuntu be ok with a wide screen monitor such as this? http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1362901:38
LordMelkoralso if im browsing the cd too long01:38
methobakpao: thanks01:38
LordMelkorthen it freezes01:38
metholucasvo: thanks for ur help01:38
garryHello, is there a way to find a list of all the various ubuntu forums on this server? I saw a list, but it was for evertying including windows. I got a headache trying to read it.01:39
houseoftaintedummm it says unknown model for my cam01:39
naliothmetho: they are not built for ubuntu. if you want to run debian packages, use debian-source and have apt-get build them for you01:39
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LordMelkorany ideas of what i can do?01:39
Madpilotgarry: most IRC apps allow you to search the channel list01:39
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pinkisntwellhow can I burn a bin?01:40
mooxHi !! I need a xorg dev libs to compile svn amarok. What is the package name ?01:40
LordMelkoruse k3b01:40
garryMadpilot Yep, thanks. I tried /list maybe there's a wild card I don't know about.01:40
methonalioth: could u explain that debian-source and building apt-get concept for me please, i have no idea!!!!01:40
houseoftaintedpinkisntwell,  use a .cue01:40
pinkisntwellhow do I burn a cue?01:40
LordMelkor...01:40
andrew_psusi, gnomefreak: the solution to the windows on the desktop is to remove the user option in fstab, but then it doesn't show up anywhere--not on the places menu, not in the Computer in nautilus... :-/01:40
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LordMelkoruse the cd image burning option01:40
LordMelkorin k3b01:40
Some_Bodyhm, is it normal during ubuntu installation for apt to take 1-2 hours to configure the primary package repository?01:41
pinkisntwellif I dont have k3b?01:41
houseoftaintedpinkisntwell,  get fireburner01:41
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pinkisntwellSome_Body: no it isnt01:41
naliothpinkisntwell: you dont burn a .cue, you burn a .cue/.bin combination01:41
bakpaoSome_Body : i think it depends on ur connection01:41
Some_Bodyhm, well this is bad01:41
garryLordLucless, when I last had a cd freeze like that in linux and Ubuntu, it was a fingerprint on the surface.01:41
LordMelkorand u dont need a cue mose software will create on for you01:41
andrew_pinkisntwell: did you try using gnomebaker?01:41
LordMelkormost*01:41
Some_Bodybeen stuck at 25% for quite some time01:41
eric_hey, how do I edit the grub file (i need to be an admin or something?)01:42
eric_just lets me look at it right now01:42
LordMelkorsome_body it might be that you have a bad burn01:42
Some_Bodyand bakpao, you don't actually need an internet connection for ubuntu download01:42
gnomefreakall emacs fall under GNU right?01:42
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mweeric_: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst01:42
eric_thank you very much01:42
Madpilotgarry: which IRC client are you using?01:42
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mweeric_: back it up first though01:42
Some_BodyI burned the cdr in nero at 8x01:42
LordMelkorhas anyone had the problem where their cd rom drive01:42
houseoftaintedmy digital camera isnt showin up in gthumb01:42
LordMelkortimes out01:42
garryMadpilot X-Chat01:42
LordMelkorand gives an I/O error01:42
eric_owe you one :)01:42
Some_Bodyshould I have done it at 4x?01:42
ThePyromaniacok so i thought i had themese sorted but now i cant get http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32862 to install in System -> Preferences -> Themes01:43
Madpilotgarry: I don't use XChat right now, but I have, and I'm pretty sure it lists & allows sorting/searching of channels01:43
SnurfSome_Body, shouldnt matter, i burn at 16x01:43
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LordMelkorit depends on your media01:43
Some_Bodycd drive is fairly new...01:43
nik__hey how do I open etc/sudoers???01:43
LordMelkorbut i had to burn mine at 2x01:43
houseoftaintedmy digital camera isnt showin up in gthumb... how can i get it recognized01:43
mwenik__: sudo visudo01:44
naliothnik__: in a console, 'man visudo'01:44
garryThanks, I think I'll research it some more or wait till I can read the list.01:44
Some_Bodyguess I'll just try another burn01:44
gnomefreakMadpilot, it does01:44
bakpaoThePyromaniac : http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q701:44
psusiandrew_, removing the user option prevents anyone but root from mounting the disk01:44
ThePyromaniacbakpao thanks01:45
psusiandrew_, if you just don't want it to show up on the desktop, mount it some place other than /media01:45
mwehow do you change the default editor in ubuntu?01:45
Madpilotgnomefreak: want to tell garry what the secret is?01:45
methobakpao: i am reading unrar guide and it says "e" is to extract files in current direstory so basically the command to extract files from a unrar will be unrar -e /home/metho/filename.rar01:45
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gnomefreakgarry,  on x-chat go to window than channel list01:46
naliothmetho: unrar x is better (unrar e will not uncompress folders correctly and will fill your drive with broken folder contents)01:46
mweI mean how do you change the editor ubuntu uses for vipw, visudo etc?01:46
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cafuegomwe: export EDITOR=myeidotr01:46
Madpilothouseoftainted: try File menu -> Import From Camera in gThumb01:46
mwecafuego: ah. thanks01:46
gnomefreakthat is what you were looking for correct? garry01:46
andrew_psusi: you recommended that, and it didn't work.01:47
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Peter__in the package manager, what does the little ubuntu logo represent?01:47
Madpilothouseoftainted: actually, it's "Import Photos", but close enough...01:47
garrygnomefreak thanks, I think it is.01:47
Some_Body2x or 4x?01:47
Some_BodyI want to be careful01:47
psusiandrew_, define "don't work"... if it isn't mounted in /media, it don't show up on the desktop01:47
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methonalioth: so basically the commend the command for extracting would be unrar x /home/metho/filename.rar01:47
gnomefreakgarry thats a list of channles on the server you are logged into01:47
Some_Bodybut honestly, 2x seems to be overdoing it01:47
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andrew_psusi: it did for me.  if you recall, i even rebooted in between.01:47
psusiandrew_, you must not have managed to get it out of /media then01:48
garrygnomefreak yep, thanks, it's perfect.01:48
MadpilotPeter__: in Synaptic, go Help menu --> Icon Legend01:48
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gnomefreakyw garry01:48
igaaaHi everyone, should an ATI 9800 Pro graphic card be fully recognized by breezy ?01:48
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Some_Bodymeh, I'll be careful01:48
garryThanks for the help Madpilot and Gnomefreak.01:48
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binaif i set up a cron job to do apt-get update; apt-get -y upgrade at the end of every week, could it damage the computer if I shut down the PC while its doing the upgrade?01:48
psusiandrew_, check the output of df to see where it's mounted01:48
Drakenhey guys, anyone know how to make mplayer window bigger ?like strech the video01:48
Madpilotgarry: np01:48
Some_Bodyno, I think you need  to install the driver first01:48
gnomefreakgarry, anytime01:48
binaor does cron make sure that can't happen01:48
Comrade_Vladimirwhat channel shoulkd i go to to get advice on a mp3 player01:48
andrew_psusi: i did.  it was on /mnt.  (i'm no dummy.)01:48
Drakenhey guys, anyone know how to make mplayer window bigger ?like strech the video01:49
psusiandrew_, hrm.... I didn't think /mnt also showed up... try somewhere else.. like /windows01:49
houseoftaintedMadpilot,  tried... says unknown camera model01:49
binaDraken: i think u need to put -vo xv sometimes01:49
dinie0ubuntu_happy 2006 all.01:49
gnomefreakis there a gui version of emacs?01:49
bakpaometho : yes, just give a try :)01:49
Drakenerr wat bina ?01:49
andrew_psusi: ok, but then i'm afraid it won't show up anywhere... i'll try.  brb.01:49
Kyralgnomefreak: if you fire it up in X then an X Interface will spawn01:49
psusiandrew_, I've got my windows partition mounted just as /c and it doesn't show up on the desktop01:49
methoDraken: use vlc, its better and does everything01:50
Madpilothouseoftainted: you might want to search the forums (ubuntuforums.org) or google01:50
SycheDraken: right click and choose full screen etc. or press F01:50
Drakenmetho, it on apt ?01:50
andrew_psusi: does it show in the places menu or the computer in nautilus?  (brb for real)01:50
binaDraken: when i played videos using the command       mplayer  <video>   even when i made the window fullscreen (f) the image would still be slow01:50
psusiandrew_, no...01:50
houseoftaintedMadpilot,  k -_-01:50
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bakpaoDraken : edit your ~/.mplayer/gui.conf01:51
psusiandrew_, I just made a shortcut to one or two places in /c that I frequently access on my desktop01:51
mwebina: sounds broken. gmplayer works like a charm here. and as bonus it's not ugly like vlc01:51
methoDraken: use Synaptic to install, thats what i did, i was having the same problem with mplayer so i installed vlc player and it sorted everything01:51
LordMelkori get an I/O error when i try to copy files off a data cd01:51
Drakenk metho01:51
Drakengetting vlc now01:51
Drakenta01:51
LordMelkorhow can i fix this?01:51
LordMelkori dont think its the cd drive itself01:52
gnomefreakwhen you say starting emacs in X you mean click on the menu item?01:52
psusiLordMelkor, get a new cd01:52
mweLordMelkor: get a working cd01:52
binamwe: dont need to do it anymore, twas when i was usinf Fedora.  No problems with Ubuntu (yaay)01:52
LordMelkorum01:52
LordMelkorthis cd01:52
LordMelkorworks fine01:52
methoDraken: no problem,,, i am new to Linux and i am glad that i can help some101:52
LordMelkoron my mp3 cd player01:52
andrew_psusi: i'm hoping for just taking it off the desktop.  i'm getting the feeling it's not possible. :)01:52
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LordMelkorand those are less tolerant than computers01:52
andrew_psusi: but i wonder if you have the user flag set in fstab for your /c?  that seemed to be the catalyst here.01:52
psusiLordMelkor, did you play the same file you are now trying to read?01:53
mwebina: You used fedora. Is it slow like I seem to hear all the time?01:53
psusiLordMelkor, and did it have any skips in the playback?01:53
LordMelkorya01:53
Some_Bodyooh, ooh, I used fedora!01:53
LordMelkorbut01:53
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LordMelkorit didnt have skips01:53
Some_Bodyit's bad01:53
psusiandrew_, well, that should make it inaccessable from anywhere as well, it won't be mounted at all01:53
mweSome_Body: is it true it's slow like hell?01:53
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MadpilotLordMelkor: can you please stop using your ENTER key as punctuation? Thanks...01:53
Some_Bodyslow, high ammount of package dependancies01:53
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Some_Bodyyes01:53
LordMelkorsorry01:53
gnomefreakmwe yes01:53
binamwe: I had no problems with it really. The only thing i didnt like was the fact I had to download the ISOs every time i wanted to upgrade :)01:53
gnomefreakunless they fixed it in 501:54
SnurfWhere in the installation process do i choose which hard drive to install to?01:54
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gnomefreakSnurf, the partioning part01:54
mweSnurf: in the beginning01:54
LordMelkoris red text a private message... im not very familiar with x-chan i usually use mirc01:54
psusiLordMelkor, try cleaning the disk then01:54
LordMelkorx-chat*01:54
SnurfShould i choose DEFAULT installation or the base01:54
LordMelkoralso i did try wiping down the cd01:55
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Some_Bodybina, why didn't you update via rpm?01:55
binaLordMelkor: I think its usually just when someone says your name01:55
naliothLordMelkor: i just sent you two differnt msg types01:55
Some_Bodyfloppies are dirt cheap01:55
gnomefreakLordLucless, red text in room is for you to read the red name under the room would be an im01:55
andrew_psusi: no, it's still browseable (set by the dmask/fmask options), but the gnome vfs junk doesn't pick it up.01:55
LordMelkorya got them01:55
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binaSome_Body: too scared :) i was told it was likely to stop the system from working01:55
psusifloppies are as dead as dos... let them rest in peace01:55
SnurfIf i need to install to an external hard drive should i choose default installation or the base system01:55
Some_Bodyhehe01:55
Comrade_Vladimirpsusi windows basically runs on dos still01:56
Some_Bodyfloppies are useful01:56
binaSome_Body: i did package updates, just not between distro versions01:56
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psusiandrew_, ohh, you just got rid of user, but don't have noauto?01:56
=== gnomefreak still doesnt know how to copy to a floppy in linux :((
naliothSnurf: good luck on installing to an external (i don't think it works too well)01:56
andrew_psusi: right.01:56
Comrade_Vladimir+ theyre good boot discs01:56
methobakpao: thanks very much... everything worked A ok!!! another question if its not too much trouble! is there a program to use par files ( par files are included in files that are downloaded from newsgroups)01:56
psusiComrade_Vladimir, only 9x does... which is why it's a flaming pile of crap and I never used it01:56
naliothmetho: par2 is in the repos01:56
Comrade_Vladimirpsusi yea01:56
Comrade_Vladimir+ 3.x01:57
psusiandrew_, nifty!01:57
gnomefreakfloppy makes nice and easy source code storage01:57
LordMelkorwhy do i get called lord lucless so much01:57
LordMelkorwhat is that01:57
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LordMelkori have been called that by multiple people01:57
andrew_psusi: kinda.  maybe that's good for you, but it isn't quite what i wanted. :-/01:57
bakpaometho : no problem i'm beginner either :) don't know about par files :'( sorry01:57
gnomefreakLordMelkor,  its auto complete01:57
andrew_LordMelkor: good old tabcomplete and laziness. :)01:57
naliothbakpao: parchive.sourceforge.net will explain01:57
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gnomefreaktype few letters of name and hit tab01:57
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doug_gnomefreak... thanks for the info... going to learn something and create havoc on my computer...01:58
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andrew_LordMelkor: in one of my frequent channels, i get called Andares all the time. :-P01:58
ThePyromaniacdoh, i accidentally clicked Open with Text Editor on a tar.gz file, and now whenever i download tar.gz's it makes them a 0byte text file01:58
ThePyromaniachelp...01:58
gnomefreakpsusi, lol01:58
Some_Bodywell, I'd estimate that atp started roughy 2 hours ago, and I've been at 25% for 1 hour01:58
psusiandrew_, try looking in gconf for an option to not show them on the desktop01:58
deangI  just added a FAT32 drive as a slave. (My master is the Ubuntu drive).  I need to get files off of the FAT32. It didn't show up on the desktop...is this normal?   Would someone shoot me a URL for how to properly mount it?01:58
LordMelkorbut i mean lucless... thats like demeaning :p01:58
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gnomefreakThePyromaniac, with firefox?01:58
sethkdeang, it's normal because the windows drives are automatically detected by the installer01:58
ThePyromaniacdeang http://ubuntulinux.nl/files01:58
andrew_psusi: good idea. :)  admittedly, i'm not much of a gnomer so i forget some of this stuff!01:58
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ThePyromaniacgnomefreak nautilous01:59
bakpaonalioth : thanks :)01:59
daskogHello 2 all01:59
Some_Body...26% now01:59
Some_Bodyhello!01:59
mwepsusi: but I guess it was easy in the sense that floppy drives are probably some of the most standardized hw around01:59
fizdevdeang: mount -t vfat /dev/hda(number) /mnt/(folder you've created)/01:59
methonalioth: thanks friend! how do i use par2 file i just installed in through the the Syanptic01:59
daskogim new with Ubuntu, and was wondering how do i get root priveliges?01:59
Some_Bodysudo01:59
naliothmetho: visit parchive.sourceforge.net02:00
deangtyhx02:00
gnomefreaksudo02:00
methonalioth: thanks, will do now!!02:00
psusimwe, one thing that really pissed me off when writing that floppy driver was that there exists a command to query the hardware to find out what kind ( if any ) of disk is actually connected... NOBODY actually implements it though02:00
xJeffsudo -s02:00
psusimwe: which is why you have to tell the bios that information, which the OS then blindly accepts, since it can't probe the hardware...02:01
methodaskog: sudo -i is same as su02:01
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mwepsusi: yeah sounds like a pain02:01
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psusiactually, sudo -s is the same as su... sudo -i is the same as su -02:01
johndarkhorsemetho: bakpao: if parchive.sourceforge.net doesnt help you, join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll try02:01
nik__can someone help me with my Ipod? For some reason it wont dismount!02:01
Some_Bodysounds like a seurity issue02:01
mwepsusi: what OS did you write it for?02:01
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poimensomeone here use a ati card with tvout enabled?02:02
psusimwe, ReactOS02:02
xJeffsudo -s changes you to root@computername02:02
mwepsusi: I see02:02
ThePyromaniacgnomefreak any ideas? i cant stop it even with openwith02:02
psusiopen source NT clone02:02
Some_Bodyjust force the bios, and you circumvent any floppy blocks02:02
giordanezhi02:02
daskogOk this might sound funny to some people! but my terminal is gone!02:02
psusiSome_Body, what?02:02
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poimenI need to kwon what driver should I use so I can see videos in my tv02:03
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daskogis there a shortcut for getting the terminal02:03
methojohndarkhorse: thanks, nalioth is already helping me but if doesnt than i will let you know!02:03
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andrew_psusi: i have to go.  thanks for the help!02:03
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whiskthecatsup02:03
whiskthecati need some help02:03
poimenbecause I am using ati propieraty ones and I get a clone view but I cant see the video or movie on the tv just in the monitor02:03
Some_Bodyallright02:03
Zambbadaskog: if you use default terminal of Ubuntu, go to "Run program" dialog and enter gnome-terminal there and launch02:04
Zambbamaybe just the menu launcher is gone02:04
daskogok02:04
Dr_Willisor look in the menus for the icon :P02:04
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whiskthecati have googled this and searched the forums and it looks pretty hopeless. i have a 2wire dsl modem and i need to plug it in with usb02:04
daskogcant find it nowhere02:04
daskogim not that noob =P02:04
whiskthecatwhat do i do02:04
Dr_Willisfirst thing i always do is put that terminal icon on the panel somewhere.02:04
daskoghaha02:05
Dr_Willismake a new launcher heh .02:05
whiskthecatany1 have any ideas02:05
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daskogit has moved to Accessories! i dont know how02:05
whiskthecat?????????02:05
whiskthecatdidnt think so02:05
ZambbaI'll never close my terminal :D02:05
Some_Bodyndiswrapper?02:05
whiskthecathmmmmmmmm02:05
zoto /msg nickserv set unfiltered on02:05
zotolollor02:05
nik__can someone help me with my Ipod? For some reason it wont dismount!\02:05
whiskthecatwhat do i do with that?02:06
whiskthecatis it a command02:06
daskoggnome-terminal02:06
Some_Bodyno, it's a program02:06
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whiskthecathow do i start02:06
daskogsu: Authentication failure02:06
daskogSorry.02:06
xJeffyou have to install ndiswrapper02:06
Some_Bodyhold on, looking for the ndiswrapper wiki02:06
daskogwtf02:06
whiskthecatdownload?02:06
daskogi just installed Ubuntu02:06
xJeffSome_body will provide you a wiki link02:06
mwe!ndiswrapper02:06
ubotufrom memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper02:06
xJeffit tells you hwo to02:06
whiskthecatcuz i dont have a connection on that computer obviosly02:06
daskogand it dont even recognise my password!02:06
xJeffuse a usb drive and do apt-install02:07
xJeffi mean02:07
xJeffdpkg-install02:07
zotonik__ just unplug it02:07
mwedaskog: you can02:07
Some_Bodyhttp://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page02:07
whiskthecatits not wirelesss?02:07
mwedaskog: you can't login?02:07
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nik__zoto, wont that corrupt the drive??02:07
zotodoubt it, iv done it plenty of times02:08
nik__hmm02:08
daskogmwe< well i realy dont know whats going on now02:08
nik__is there no way around it?02:08
nik__do you get an error too when trying to dismount?02:08
zotoare you using any files on the drive?02:08
Some_Bodywell, I'm off to re-attempt the ubuntu install02:08
Some_Bodywish me luck!02:08
nik__i dont think so02:08
zotono, usually it dismounts fine02:08
nik__mine sais02:08
whiskthecatits not wireless its just an external usb modem02:08
gnomefreakanyone have the prunouation page for gnome handy?02:08
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nik__the error is: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument02:09
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daskogI just can't loggin as root!02:09
mwedaskog: you're not supposed to02:09
xJeffdaskog: you don't need root02:09
mwe!root02:09
ubotuI guess root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password02:09
daskogthen how can i install Nvidia driver02:09
daskog?02:10
gnomefreakdaskog, use sudo before the command02:10
zotonik__: idk02:10
daskogi'll trye that02:10
gnomefreaksudo -i02:10
daskogto02:10
xJeffAnyone have tried installing KDE on Ubuntu just using apt-get install? does it work well?02:10
Ron_osudo!02:10
nik__hmmm02:10
Ron_o!sudo02:10
uboturoot is, like, totally, by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password02:10
whiskthecatok so basically u cant use external dsl modems02:10
gnomefreakor sudo <command>02:10
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nik__anyone else use an Ipod?02:10
KyralxJeff: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:10
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bakpaodaskdog : sudo su --> then use the ur own password02:10
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xJeffkyral: yea .. does it work good?02:10
Ron_owhiskthecat: I use an external dsl modem..02:10
mweyeah don't overuse sudo -i or much of the benefit of sudo will be gone02:10
ScootaDootaI'll still su out of habit02:10
KyralxJeff: I don't like KDE ;P02:10
whiskthecatthrough usb02:11
daskogok thanks..that worked02:11
uh60pilothey guys I got a very basic question I am new to linux and want to telnet to a site such as google do Ijust go to terminal and type telnet http://www.google.com 8002:11
xJeffKryal: hehe thanks anyways =)02:11
uh60pilot?02:11
KyralxJeff: It works fine, but KDE isn't my cup of tea02:11
xJeffKyral: I see. thanks02:11
methoi just installed par2 but i dont know where and how to open!02:11
daskogsudo sh /home/daniel/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run02:11
daskog like this02:11
gnomefreakxfce :))02:11
KyralFlux02:11
johndarkhorsemetho: join #kubuntu-offtopic please02:11
daskognow i need to get some packages =)02:11
gnomefreakmetho,  try par2 in terminal02:11
Ron_ohow large is KDE? How many MB would it be to D/L Kubuntu Desktop?02:11
methook02:11
ScootaDootatelnet www.google.com 8002:11
Kyralick telnet02:11
napstar567can someone tell me why i cannot download packages from security.ubuntu.com02:12
gnomefreakthe bot has wrong site for gnome its down02:12
Kyralsomeone still uses Telnet?02:12
whiskthecatusb dsl modem? can any1 help02:12
timfrostuh60pilot, yes.  But why do you want to telnet to a web server?02:12
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KyralRon_o: at least 300 MB02:12
markrianHow do I add a nameserver entry to resolv.conf? My device is configured with DHCP by a hardware router, and I want this extra nameserver (which is another machine) to be the default nameserver for client machines. Any ideas?02:12
Nap_hi02:12
uh60pilottim, I'm trying to see what information the site is requesting from my browser02:12
napstar567just use ssh or samba02:12
ColonelPaniqueuh60pilot : uhhh... there is not much point in such an exercise really.02:12
mwemetho: use dpkg -L <package> to see what <package> installed and where. use dpkg -L <package>|grep bin to locate the binary02:12
Ron_ojust for a big win you'all I got a relative using Ubuntu now.. :)02:12
daskogubuntu might considering get 2-3 more channels so they can split up support into diffrent sections lol! to hard to read everything in here! but nice to see there is sutch a great community02:13
whiskthecathow do i setup apache02:13
uh60pilottrying to open it in a script but it is not giving me all the information when accessed from the script so Ithink it might be a header or something02:13
uh60pilottelnet would tell me what it is requesting right?02:13
whiskthecatapache?02:13
napstar567read the howto section02:13
Kyralhe's got a point02:13
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napstar567getting started02:13
Kyraluh60pilot: just don't use it for anything serious02:13
uh60pilotI'm not just trying to see what is being requested from my browser02:14
Kyraluh60pilot: telnet is like broadcasting in the clear02:14
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dougluxgreetings again.. slight name change...(formally Doug_)new to the Ubuntu Community... hoping to give back need direction02:14
Kyraluh60pilot: I know just saying ;P02:14
uh60pilotbut using that isn't giving me anything I need:(02:14
ColonelPaniqueuh60pilot : there are better tools for such purposes anyways, such as netcat, for example.02:14
KyralEthereal02:14
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uh60pilotI've used ethereal before does it work on linux as well?02:14
uh60pilotnetcat?02:14
Kyraluh60pilot: yes02:14
ssstormyhello, I'm faced with an issue... I apparantly do not have the executable "gconf-schemas" installed02:14
ScootaDootayes ethereal works02:14
Kyraluh60pilot: very well02:14
napstar567using telnet is like using windows netsend02:14
ssstormydoes anyone know what package installs this?02:14
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zotowhat do i need to install to go from a server install to a default with apt-get?02:14
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ColonelPaniqueKyral : he is not logging into anything, so your security point is moot. ;-)02:15
Kyralzoto: ubuntu-desktop02:15
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uh60pilotthanks very much02:15
zotoKyral: thanks02:15
uh60pilotanyone good with sending headers with php?02:15
n0ahhm, had ubuntu 8 months now and never been in here yet02:15
do0bgot a small question about the linux gazette packages, does anibody knows how they should be used?02:15
ColonelPaniqueuh60pilot : wrong channel man.  try ##php02:15
Kyraldo0b: read them ;P02:15
xJeffPHP headers has been a headache for me02:15
uh60pilotyeah those guys don't answer very much02:16
uh60pilottried them several times02:16
Madpilotdouglux: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyWaysToHelpUbuntu02:16
dougluxthanks Madpilot02:16
do0binstalled the packages but don't know how they should be opened02:16
methohello how do i join another channel i.e. #kubuntu-offtopic02:16
ColonelPaniqueuh60pilot : true. they are elitist, and such. anyways, you'll get chastised here for going off-topic methinks. ;-)02:16
Kyraldo0b: look in /usr/share02:16
do0bok02:17
Kyralmetho: /join <channel>02:17
Ron_ometho.... try "/<CHANNEL>"02:17
Madpilotdouglux: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingUbuntu02:17
uh60pilotthanks colonel02:17
fissyhello... I have a weird problem with dapper. is there anywhere i can ask about it or possibly report a bug?02:17
Ron_o... /join... hehe.02:17
Kyralfissy: like?02:17
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bakpaometho : /j #kubuntu-offtopic02:17
vandenHi all. New to linux and Breezy. I'm trying to install Canadian English dictionaries into OpenOffice. I'm using OOo 1.9.129 as installed by breezy. Standard Windows way is in OOo File->Wizard->Install New dictionaries. Did nothing. Put DicOOo.sxw in /usr/share/myspell/dicts as per instructions at <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100695>. Still nothing. Further instructions at link seem to depend on upgrading OOo outside of offici02:17
Kyralfissy: report it to Malone02:17
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w4f7zive got a question about NIC bonding, im alittle confused about the switch feature requirments and i cant seem to find it on google, if anyone would like to explain it to me or point me to a good site it would be apreasheated02:17
fissyKyral, my cpu usage is 70%+, but no process seems to be using very much. Xorg is top with 5%02:18
methothanks!02:18
fissywho's malone?02:18
Kyralfissy: use top02:18
Kyralfissy: www.launchpad.net02:18
fissyKyral, am using top02:18
KyralGNOME System Monitor?02:18
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n0ahman does xchat annoy me02:19
fr0xWhat firewall you suggest to use? I am currently using firestarter02:19
fissysame results, though also shows GSM using lots of resources, the big hog that it is02:19
n0ahctrl+x kills it02:19
gnomefreakn0ah, you have 35 thousand other ones to choose from :))02:19
dougluxbrb02:19
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Kyralfr0x: Every Firewall on Linux is like a frontend to IPTables02:19
n0ahgnomefreak, yea yea.. but this is the one i have installed atm02:19
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n0ahgnomefreak, any suggestions?02:20
fr0xKyral, so I better stay with firestarter?02:20
mwefr0x: firestarter is great, the best imho02:20
gnomefreakirssi is good and also installed by default02:20
Kyralaside from tweaking IPTables yourself02:20
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KyralIrssi++02:20
fr0xmwe, I see.02:20
mwefr0x: it implement some damn kewl basic rules and is easy to use02:20
Kyralinstall the irssi-scripts package too02:20
ssstormyno one knows the executable gconf-schemas?02:20
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Kyralssstormy: gimme a sec02:20
gnomefreakn0ah, do you want text or GUI irc client?02:20
ssstormyI just need to find the package that contains it02:21
Neiwhat's so gread about irssi?02:21
ssstormyKyral, thanks02:21
n0aheither or, i often use bitchx02:21
fr0xmwe, I see. Wonderful - Thanks mwe/kyral02:21
gnomefreaki like lostirc02:21
Madpilotfissy: https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu02:21
n0ahdepends if i'm mainly working in gui or console that day02:21
gnomefreakits GUI02:21
Kyralssstormy: gconf202:21
gnomefreakbitchx-gtk :))02:21
ssstormyok thanks!02:21
fissyKyral, http://www.zorq.net/dump/top.png02:21
n0ahyeah i use that at work02:21
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fissyta Madpilot02:22
fr0xAnyone has installed firefox 1.5 without using ubuntu's aptcommand?02:22
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Nap_when upgrading dapper by "apt-get dist-upgrade", I get " * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "force-reload" failed." and the upgrade process fails.02:22
gnomefreakfr0x, yes cause you cant use apt to get it02:22
Nap_what s the problem ?02:22
fr0xgnomefreak, so you have installed it manually?02:22
gnomefreakNap_, could it be dapper is far from stable?02:23
gnomefreak!ff1.502:23
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:23
mweNap_: if you don't know how to fix problems on your own please don't use dapper.02:23
gnomefreakfr0x,  yes02:23
johndarkhorsefr0x: there is no apt  command for firefox 1.502:23
KyralNap_: thats harmless for now02:23
fr0xI see. It is stable though?02:23
ssstormyKyral, how do you tell?  I can't find these things nearly so fast02:23
do0breinstalling the lg02:23
Ron_ojohndarkhorse: there might be but how about trying the synaptic package manager...02:23
Kyralssstormy: install dlocate ;D02:23
ssstormyjohndarkhorse, there is.  firefox 1.5 is in the debian SID02:23
Nap_mwe, gnomefreak : ok, I am willing to help, once I have found the problem, do I have to file it somewhere ?02:24
Kyralssstormy: then use dlocate -S <file>02:24
gnomefreakfr0x, ff1.5 kind of goes both ways with stablity02:24
ssstormyKyral, so that only works for files on te system already?02:24
ssstormydang02:24
Kyralssstormy: nope02:24
gnomefreakNap_, search bugzilla before you attempt it again02:24
fr0xThanque.02:24
mweNap_: file a bug if you believe you found a bug02:24
ssstormyreally?  awsome02:24
Kyralssstormy: it works for all02:24
ssstormyI'll remember that one02:24
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whiskthecatsome plz help02:24
Nap_ok guys, thanks02:24
whiskthecatthis is p'n me off02:24
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gnomefreakthere is already a bug about cups that i know of02:24
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johndarkhorsessstormy: wow, cool02:24
KyralSid02:25
swimhey folks anyone running e17?02:25
Kyralis dangerious02:25
gnomefreakwhiskthecat, what is the issue?02:25
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Kyraldo it if you want, be watch for breakage02:25
whiskthecati have a 2wire dsl modem that i need to hook up with usb02:25
gnomefreakNap_, if you have windows on that hard drive i would not upgrade to dapper02:25
whiskthecatis there any way02:25
whiskthecatthis is the only reaon i dont like ubuntu02:26
whiskthecatreason*02:26
daskogNvidia drivers are asking for somthin02:26
daskoglol02:26
Kyralwhat is a 2 wire DSL modem?02:26
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cafuegowhiskthecat: What? Don't blame Ubuntu for your appropriation of hardware that's not supported.02:26
xJeffstart DIY ubuntu people! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing02:27
gnomefreakKyral, its a yahoo (sbc) modem02:27
KyralJeez, what would ahve these people thought 3 years ago02:27
n0ahwhiskthecat: if only ya had a cat5 modem instead of usb eh?02:27
KyralWehn half the time we had to write our own drivers lol02:27
halibuthow can i find my current cpu speed?02:27
Kyralhalibut: cat /proc/cpuinfo02:27
cafuegowhiskthecat: Did you plug the modem in and look at /var/log/syslog ?02:27
xJeffwbiskthecat: I have a 2wire sbc gateway myself02:27
xJeffI got it working02:28
gnomefreakwhiskthecat, any reason you do have it hooked up with ethernet?02:28
daskogplease be more mature than saying "Ubuntu suck's cause of lacks for this&that driver"!! Ubuntu is twice as much than what Windows has been all it's life02:28
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xJeffwhiskthecat, restart your gateway. ubuntu couldn't recononize it the first time for me too02:28
Drakenonce u got ubuntu working 100% on your system02:28
Drakenthere is NOTHING better02:28
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n0ahDraken, it's getting there that's a bitch sometimes :p02:28
Drakenya02:28
=== gnomefreak would really like to know how ubuntu takes 6 months per release and windows takes 5 years per release and yet ubuntu so much better :))
Kyrallol02:29
ColonelPaniquedaskog : not completely true.  Windows is many many times more expen$$ive than Ubuntu! ;-)02:29
Kyralbecause we sync to the GNOME release cycle if you must know02:29
swimanyone know of an install script or debs for e17?02:29
Drakentook me a week to get nvidia drivers to work so i could get into KDE :P02:29
daskoglol02:29
=== gnomefreak plugged in pc installed ubuntu and always had lil tiny issues but nothing big :))
do0bxfce rocks ;)02:30
n0ahtoday i started playing with my sound, cause i got 5.1 surround speakers and now i'm having issues with rhythmbox02:30
n0ahdrivin me nuts, it starts using 100% cpu when i go to play anything02:30
daskogi've been using linux for 19 Hours! Yay =) and i realised soon how nice Linux is & Ubuntu02:30
whiskthecatthis is through usb xjeff02:30
Drakeni mean, its the small things like moving your mouse over a textfile, and seeing the contents without opening it02:30
mwegnomefreak: you're wrong. windows only takes about three years per release :|02:30
Drakensimple things02:30
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do0bi allmost don't use windows anymore02:31
gnomefreaklol mwe02:31
xJeffwhat model is that 2wire gateway?02:31
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whiskthecat1000sw02:31
n0ahi wanna play hl2 again.. and i wish x64 had even better support, but otherwise i'm fine02:31
whiskthecatis that the model number? im not sure02:31
do0bI'm not that much off agamer anymore :)02:32
whiskthecatwhen i restart it do i keep ubuntu on?02:32
n0ahi never was, but i paid my money and i enjoy playin a game every once in a while02:32
gnomefreakn0ah, 64bit if im not mistaken can use 32 bit apps02:33
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n0ahyes it can.. i know02:33
cafuegognomefreak: It's not ideal.02:33
gnomefreakoh ok02:33
whiskthecatjeff?02:33
n0ah..but opera won't work02:33
cafuegon0ah: chroot02:33
mwen0ah: yeah. I like my games too. I have a dedicated gaming pc. and then this laptop for ubuntu. I spend 95% of my computer time on the lappy though02:33
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whiskthecatis he dead?02:33
Madpilotn0ah: Opera works fine in Ubuntu - I'm running it right now02:33
Madpilot!tell n0ah about opera02:34
n0ahMadpilot, 64-bit?02:34
daskogWhat About VMvare & Cedega for Pc games?02:34
gnomefreakMadpilot, 64bit opera?02:34
xJeffsorry02:34
xJeffI was looking at the wiki02:34
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Drakenim 64bit, im running VLC and xchat02:34
Drakenall not 64bit02:34
mwedaskog: vmware doesn't support 3d and cedega will only run a fraction of your games02:34
xJeffI have a 1000HW ;) I restarted both system and the gateway02:34
whiskthecatthrough usb?02:34
whiskthecatnot ethernet02:34
daskogbut still02:34
xJeffI've only tried ethernet02:35
daskogi only Battlefield 202:35
n0ahDraken, i'm running vlc, xchat, amsn, etc etc, none 64 bit (i'm assuming) but some things just won't work02:35
whiskthecatthats the prob02:35
whiskthecatit works for ethernet but i need usb02:35
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mwedaskog: good for you. I play civilization IV02:35
n0ahi haven't checked which versions they are for sure, but afaik they're all 32bit02:35
xJeffSo the gateway isn't giving your ubuntu an IP ? whiskthecat?02:35
Drakeni havnt got a problem yet02:35
daskogdoes it work?02:35
Drakenonly like drivers and stuff need to be 6402:35
gnomefreakn0ah, most apps are 32bit (most popular arch02:35
whiskthecathmmmmm?02:36
whiskthecatit doesnt auto detect02:36
n0ahDraken, nor have i, till i changed libesd0 to libesd-alsa002:36
whiskthecatand its not under the network list02:36
n0ahnow my rhythmbox won't work02:36
n0ahbut everything else runs smooth and quick02:36
Madpilotn0ah: no, I run 32bit still - no idea about 6402:36
xJeffdoes the system detect the usb device?02:36
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gnomefreak32bit rulezzzzzzzzz02:36
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whiskthecathow would i know02:37
whiskthecathang on02:37
n0ahgnomefreak, my work box is 32bit ubuntu02:37
daskogi run amd x2 4400 + Gf7800 gtx and ++ pretty fast must i say..and all 64bit =)02:37
gnomefreaklsmod?02:37
xJefflspci02:37
whiskthecatyep02:37
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whiskthecatits under device manager02:37
gnomefreaklspci wont give usb output tho02:37
n0ah3200 + gf6600gt02:37
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gnomefreakits not a pci device02:37
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daskoghehe02:38
daskogwhy?02:38
gnomefreaklol cafuego02:38
mwen0ah: IMHO 32bit ubuntu is the better option for now02:38
xJeffdoesn't lsmod only shows the modules loaded?02:38
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Shadyman_Which runlevel is called when going into suspend?02:38
Linfani just installed 855resolution how do i active it02:38
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whiskthecatoh02:38
gnomefreakxJeff,  i dont know :((02:38
whiskthecati didnt use that02:38
Some_Bodywell, download locked up again02:38
n0ahmwe, yeah i know, but i haven't got a spare optical drive to get my pile of parts 32bit machine running02:38
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Some_Bodyhum-ho02:38
whiskthecati used device manager02:38
gnomefreakdmesg should show everything :))02:39
xJeffdevice manage is good02:39
Some_Bodyrather, installation02:39
xJeffI don't know what could be the problem though02:39
Some_Body6% instaling the base system02:39
xJeffwhiskthecat, type ifconfig02:39
gnomefreaki lied :((02:39
cafuegodaskog: When running 64bit i found a lot of media stuff just didn't work, or only half worked.02:39
xJeffand tell me what you see02:39
Some_Bodyafter roughly 30 minutes02:39
whiskthecatnothing under lsmod02:39
n0ahcafuego, wmv with iv50 doesn't work, and alot of newer mov files02:39
gnomefreaklspci will show usb but just the type of controller it is02:39
cafuegon0ah: Indeed.02:40
daskogcafuego< more details please02:40
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xJeffifconfig?02:40
gnomefreakwhiskthecat, use lspci and see if it sees it to start with02:40
n0ahif i could get wmv with iv50 (one of the most common) i'd be laughin02:40
whiskthecatlink encap local loopback02:40
cafuegodaskog: No java applets, no flash, bad performance on xvids.02:40
whiskthecatan ip02:40
daskog=/02:40
whiskthecat some packets02:40
n0ahand cheering and jumping about02:40
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whiskthecat127.0.0.102:41
bluefoxicyI have a question.02:41
xJeffwhiskthecat, type ifconfig eth0 up02:41
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bluefoxicyWhy does the default CPU governor appear to be "userspace"02:41
daskogcafuego< all that i did not know about...but to late now..im not uninstalling Ubuntu 64 over 3202:41
whiskthecatup? too02:41
n0ahcafuego, i got flash working, no sound most of the time but otherwise it works02:41
xJeffyes02:41
n0ahflash 8 doesn't do animation very well though02:41
bluefoxicyand the userspace daemon appear to increase CPU clock as needed, and decrease the clock when not02:41
bluefoxicyI mean02:41
bluefoxicyseriously02:41
bluefoxicythe default setup is having "ondemand" exported to userspace02:42
bluefoxicyas opposed to just having the kernel by default use "ondeman" CPU frequency scaling02:42
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whiskthecatno such device02:42
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Some_Bodyblah, the computer in my room is cursed02:42
cafuegodaskog: This is why it's important to havwe a separate /home :-)02:42
xJeffyou need some kind of driver that I don't know...02:42
mwebluefoxicy: what's the difference?02:42
xJeffMehh.. Have to go for dinner now... good luck with it02:42
maxwellPardon me, but could someone tell me what dh-make is?02:43
whiskthecaton the forums when people ask about usb 2wire either no one responds or they say to buy an ethernet card02:43
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gnomefreakoh before i go cafuego if ubotu is "yours" the gnome site for the !gnome is down looks like server dies just to tell you maybe make him forget it?02:43
n0ahcafuego,  or as in my case a whole separate drive for /home02:43
cafuegomaxwell: a .deb package helper script.02:43
ZambbaHey. I have process called gam_server which grabs too much of my cpu time. What can I do?02:43
cafuego!forget gnome02:43
ubotui forgot gnome, cafuego02:43
halibutcan anyone recommend to me a socket939 mobo which will be compatible with linux?02:44
cafuegognomefreak: You can do that too, ubotu is like a wiki.02:44
maxwellCafuego, could you tell me where to get that script?02:44
mwebluefoxicy: how does anything know better than the kernel when the cpu is loaded?02:44
swimanyone know of an install script or debs for e17?02:44
maxwellPretty much anything made by Asus should be compatible with Linux.02:44
cafuegomaxwell: sudo apt-get install build-essential dpkg-dev02:44
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Some_Bodyfirst it suddenly stops recognising my hard drive for no discernable reason, then it won't boot the floppy drive, followed by random pre-grub lockups, and now ubuntu won't install...02:44
maxwellGo for one of the Nforce4 chipset motherboard.02:44
maxwellThanks, Cafuego.02:44
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cafuegohalibut: I prefer Gigabyte mobos. It should be quite hard to get something that's not supported.02:45
maxwellSome_Body: I don't know much about Linux, but it sounds like your motherboard is on the fritz.02:45
daskogwhat you mean?02:45
daskogseparate home?02:45
Drakenanyone know of a linux called, u like code a virus in the game and make the virus fight each other?02:45
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Drakenanyone know its name02:45
TTT_TravisHi, I installed ubuntu server, but all that installed was the base how do I install all of the programs that come with it?02:45
maxwellGigabyte's quality has decreased as of late.02:45
bluefoxicymwe:  I think the same way top and gnome-system-monitor know the CPU is loaded.02:45
cafuegodaskog: If /home is separated, you can always wipe all of the rest without affecting your settings and files.02:45
ZambbaTTT_Travis: sudo apt-get install software02:45
bluefoxicymwe:  but ubuntu uses powernowd instead of 'ondemand' or 'conservative'  :(02:45
mwebluefoxicy: they query the cpu02:45
ZambbaTTT_Travis: like sudo apt-get install apache202:45
daskogah ok02:45
n0ahbeat me to it cafuego02:45
HymnToLifeTTT_Travis > the same as in a classic desktop02:45
daskogi still have a lot of learning02:46
HymnToLifesudo apt-get install package-name02:46
TTT_Travisoh so whats the point of the server package02:46
bluefoxicymwe:  My point is that we have a program that basically disables something the kernel is doing so that it can do the exact samet hing.02:46
ortnerHow do i check if i have reverse ip?02:46
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mwebluefoxicy: powernowd isn't that for amd?02:46
TTT_Travisyou still have to install everything by hand02:46
cafuegodaskog: That makes reinstalls 30 minute affairs, after which the system is as before :-)02:46
daskogjust did the windows to linux switch02:46
TTT_Travisthey should have some kind of selector or something02:46
Drakenanyone know of a linux called, u like code a virus in the game and make the virus fight each other?02:46
Drakenanyone know its name02:46
cafuegomwe: also for intel02:46
bluefoxicymwe:  I dunno, it's in ubuntu-desktop.02:46
Some_Body...no?02:46
gnomefreakthank cafuego i wasnt sure if i should do it or not so i asked you sorry02:46
Some_Bodysounds fun though02:46
bluefoxicymwe:  all it does is watch the CPU usage and tweak the CPU frequency through the sysfs interface.02:46
Some_Bodylike...an mmo version of hackerslab02:47
timfrostTTT_Travis, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will load the full set of packages from the CD for a Gnome desktop02:47
mwebluefoxicy: ok. so it asks the cpu if it's busy and if it is tells it to alter the freq?02:47
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foampeacehi02:47
bluefoxicymwe:  pretty much.  Through whatever means, when you hit 100% CPU usage on a 1.8GHz CPU clocked at 1.0GHz, it raises the CPU speed to 1.8GHz02:48
methohi02:48
foampeaceanyne know how to make the w32codecs work with totem-gstreamer?02:48
gnomefreaktimfrost,  not from cd if he adds the http sources and # the cdrom :))02:48
bluefoxicymwe:  and then when usage drops back down, it decreases the CPU frequency back down.02:48
gnomefreakubotu tell foampeace about codecs02:48
methofoampeace: use vlc, it works great!!!02:48
timfrostgnomefreak, true.02:48
mwebluefoxicy: what's the advantage over the default ondemand option in the kernel, do you know?02:48
Some_Bodyah screw it, I'm just getting a new processor02:49
maxwellWait, sorry, just came back.02:49
bluefoxicymwe:  I have no idea; honestly I think there is none.02:49
maxwellWhat did you need help with, Some_Body?02:49
andrew_i am trying to run a C program quickly from a vanilla ubuntu installation; could anyone help me get up and running^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcompiling?02:49
daskogbrb02:49
Some_Bodyvarious issues with my motherboard02:49
n0aharghhhh02:49
Some_BodyI could get a new one02:49
gnomefreakSome_Body, while your out can you pick me up a new laptop?02:49
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n0ahrhythmbox is drivin me nuts02:49
gnomefreaklol02:49
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mwebluefoxicy: that's what I was thinking. the program has to query the kernel anyway02:49
Some_Bodysure, I'll leave it in detroit02:49
Some_Body:)02:49
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gnomefreakive seen p4 running at around 400-500 usd02:50
Some_Bodybut then again, the processor is a pentium II02:50
bluefoxicymwe:  It appears to ignore the CPU load of niced programs02:50
Some_Bodyrather outdated, n'est pas?02:50
gnomefreaki have a bunch of p2s and 2 p3s i think02:50
bluefoxicymwe:  so if you're running seti@home and it's hitting 100% CPU at 66mhz, it leaves your CPU at 66mhz until you try to do something else.02:50
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mwebluefoxicy: but I guess the power daemon does more than control the cpu speed, doesn't it?02:50
maxwellI need some high-end P3's. Interested in selling them?02:50
bluefoxicymwe:  http://www.deater.net/john/powernowd.html02:51
timfrostandrew_, sudo apt-get install buildessential.  Then add the development packages that suipply libraries the program needs.02:51
maxwellAlso, Some_Body: I'm trying to set up a direct chat.02:51
gnomefreakthis pos dell wont let me run anything over 500mhz :((02:51
maxwellThat's because it's a Dell.02:51
andrew_timfrost: cheers; i thought there was a metapkg for that.02:51
mwebluefoxicy: so maybe it's more advanced than the kernel built in thing02:51
n0ah486, p2 450, duron 1000, athlon 1800, athlon xp 3200 all the ones i own02:51
johndarkhorseandrew_: it's build-essential, btw02:51
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andrew_johndarkhorse: cheers.02:51
gnomefreakmaxwell, your right they put limits on the bios for the mbs so you have to get new pc if you want more speed02:52
timfrostandrew_, build-essential is the metapackage that pulls in the compiler, make, etc02:52
bluefoxicymwe:  yes but it's in typical use not needed02:52
maxwellYou could theoretically flash the Bios, though.02:52
gnomefreakbuild-essential is just that essential02:52
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bluefoxicymwe:  if you run seti@home on a laptop, you should be smart enough to install powernowd02:52
maxwellWhat is powernowd?02:52
andrew_timfrost: yes, i got gcc, but couldn't remember libc6-dev for the libs and all. :)02:53
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gnomefreakandrew_, for what?02:53
foampeace!easysource02:53
uboturumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:53
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gnomefreakthe compile of amsn?02:53
andrew_gnomefreak: ima kill you. :-P02:53
gnomefreaksudo apt-get build-dep amsn should give you most of the libs :))02:54
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gnomefreakandrew_, i told you to stick with the amsn you have02:54
andrew_gnomefreak: http://www.gnome.org/~jamesh/code/gvfs-list-drives.c (something a guy in #gnome recommended i try)02:54
andrew_gnomefreak: are you serious?02:54
Some_Bodyaw, freenode doesn't allow kill?02:54
andrew_gnomefreak: i've never used an MSN chat program (gah)... are you thinking of someone else?02:54
gnomefreakandrew_, why do i have a source code on my screen?02:55
gnomefreakmaybe :((02:55
isillightanyone get TclX to compile?02:55
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gnomefreakandrew_, give me a hint on what code this is?02:55
andrew_gnomefreak: i was asking about the windows icon on the gnome desktop.02:55
andrew_gnomefreak: i'm not too sure what is, basically a gnome-vfs debugger.02:55
gnomefreakandrew_, ohhhh me and window icons or windows ar not freinds02:55
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mwebluefoxicy: yeah. the kernel built in used to do a good job for me.02:56
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gnomefreakget to typing :))02:56
andrew_gnomefreak: me either.  but my parents want it around, i'm just trying to get it off the desktop.02:56
gnomefreaklol02:56
Arrogancehas the kernel on the Breezy ISO been updated since Breezy was released?02:56
Christians4GNT2Hello Ubuntu users, I have found GAIM 2.0 .debs for breezy, there is also OTR encryption debs: http://files.madskillz.cc/debs/02:56
SturgeonI keep getting messages like this in dmesg:  Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.02:56
Sturgeonany idea what could this be?02:56
MadpilotArrogance: I don't think they update the ISOs after release02:57
gnomefreakyoull be glad to knwo its writen in c02:57
andrew_Christians4GNT2: cheers, that's nice.  i've been using it on arch and it's quite a good change, overall.02:57
Christians4GNT2Yes, it is very nice.02:57
bluefoxicymwe:  besidse that, the userspace daemon has to poll, so there is a delay between CPU spiking and CPU frequency adjustment02:57
andrew_gnomefreak: you talking to me?02:57
ArroganceMadpilot, thanks02:57
gnomefreakandrew_, yes want an easy way to do this?02:57
mweSturgeon: probably your hotkeys or wifi switch or something like that02:57
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Sturgeonand what could I do to fix it?02:57
Sturgeonhotkeys?02:57
andrew_gnomefreak: please, this is my parents' computer; i don't need lots of dev tools on it. :)02:57
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SturgeonThis is a standard keyboard, no hotkeys or anything02:58
gnomefreakandrew_, i meant this sourcecode02:58
maxwellPardon, but does anyone know what's up with the "fakeroot" command?02:58
mwebluefoxicy: well the kernel also polls. the cpu doesn't know anything about the kernel02:58
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Sturgeonspanish keyboard btw02:58
andrew_gnomefreak: so did i; that came out wrong.  ahem.  I would like an easy way to do this. ;)02:58
alphyI just downloaded a huge torrent file and I can't get any of the files to play using Totem or Beep.  any help?02:58
Madpilotalphy: what format are they in?02:58
andrew_alphy: try mplayer02:58
gnomefreaklol andrew_ i dont know anything about vfs02:58
andrew_alphy: if that won't run it, nothing will. :-P02:58
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alphymadpilot, mp302:59
fancyydkhello02:59
yumag'night everyone02:59
gnomefreak!mp302:59
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:59
andrew_gnomefreak: ok, so what "easy way" do you mean?02:59
Madpilotalphy: do you have mp3 codecs installed?02:59
bluefoxicymwe:  delay in the kernel is 50mS02:59
bluefoxicya 50mS poll in userspace would be fairly taxing.02:59
n0ah..i have more mp3's than i could possibly listen to :S02:59
n0ah6500 now ;/02:59
fancyydkHi, is there a way I can install flash player on 64-bit Ubuntu?02:59
bluefoxicylol n0ah02:59
gnomefreakandrew_, paste the code into an editer save than compile with the same command at top of source02:59
bluefoxicyI have 4 days 2 hours and 2 minutes of music03:00
andrew_gnomefreak: lol... i know that much. :-P03:00
johndarkhorsefancyydk: in a chroot (maybe)03:00
n0ahabout 80% legit too03:00
alphymadpilot, well, I've been using Beep to play my mp3's and have had no problems so I can't figure out why beep won't play these03:00
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mwebluefoxicy: It says on the page you pointed me to, that you can set the poll to whatever you like. however I think I can wait on second. but I agree it seems unnecesary to use the powernowd in most cases03:00
gnomefreakandrew_, im thinking that if you have vfs installed it should have all the libs that this source is calling03:00
alphymadpilot, to answer your question, no.03:00
maxwellDoes anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules03:00
andrew_gnomefreak: i think i'll need a -dev package, no?03:00
maxwellGah, that did'nt work.03:00
gnomefreakyou might andrew_03:00
johndarkhorseandrew_: -dev packages are great03:00
andrew_gnomefreak: it's not finding a pkg-config file atm.03:00
bluefoxicymwe:  nod, though in high intensity applications you might see a burp with a sudden CPU upramp.03:01
fancyydkoh... but by doing chroot, how will that make a difference? could you explain or show me a website that has instructions on how to do it?03:01
n0ah18 days, 4 hours, 58 minutes, that's not including the 6 new cd's i got for christmas03:01
Madpilot!tell alphy about mp303:01
andrew_johndarkhorse: i hate them and the fact that i need them.  (on arch, there's no separation.)03:01
gnomefreakwhat lib are you trying to get?03:01
bluefoxicymwe: setting polling to 50mS would result in something like 4% CPU usage in itself03:01
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maxwellPardon, but I'm stuck on something.03:01
mwebluefoxicy: do you think so?03:01
maxwellmaxwell@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.7$ fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules03:01
maxwellbash: fakeroot: command not found03:01
johndarkhorsemaxwell: install fakeroot03:02
maxwellWhat the blazes is going on?03:02
andrew_WOW! O_O  libgnomevfs2-dev has buku deps!03:02
gnomefreakmaxwell,  sudo apt-get install fakeroot03:02
maxwellI think I need a brain transplant.03:02
bluefoxicymwe:  2.3% then.03:02
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bluefoxicymwe:  2.0% minimum, 2.3% maximum.03:03
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Some_Bodywell, I'm attempting to convert a large group of gamefaqs users into using linux users...03:03
Some_Bodya mission destined for failure03:03
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timfrostandrew_, how goes the download?03:03
maxwellLinux is a marvellous OS. Pity it's got such a steep learning curve.03:03
Some_Bodyso much ignorance :(03:03
Some_Bodywell, not necessarily03:04
Some_Bodystart with Knopix03:04
Some_Bodyrather basic and easy to understand03:04
bluefoxicyuh03:04
bluefoxicystart with an ubuntu livecd03:04
livewyerI started on Fedora 1, and it was pretty easy to get used to03:04
bluefoxicydrop it in, hit enter 3 times03:04
maxwellIt feels a lot like Macintosh OSX, but with more high-level functionality and trickier to use.03:04
Some_Bodythen go to, say, fedora03:04
Some_Bodythen ubuntu03:04
tipnmocan anyone offer help with ati drivers?????  i follow the guide exactly http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584  , but fglrxinfo shows Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:04
tipnmodisplay: :0.0  screen: 003:04
tipnmoOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org03:04
tipnmoOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect03:04
tipnmoOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)03:04
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maxwellI've already installed Ubuntu, I'm still getting used to it.03:04
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andrew_timfrost: just fine, thanks.  worked like a charm.  i hate -dev packages (had to install 14 of them just for libgnomevfs2-dev) but whatev. :-P03:04
mwebluefoxicy: isn't 1/50ms like 20 times a sec? if one poll takes 15 cpu instructions that would make 300/sec put that against a 2ghz processor that would give you a 300/2000000000 fraction cpu load03:04
gnomefreakdapper is having ruby issues grrrrrrrrrr03:04
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maxwellMatrox pwns all :)03:05
robert__I've installed ubuntu, yet I cannot get the sound to work.03:05
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gnomefreakanjuta is screwed too :((03:05
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Some_Bodyheh, I'm amazed at how far I've come from about 4 years ago, when I couldn't get a D-link ethernet card to work in windows 98...03:05
zeeeeehi all, a long time ago i installed ubuntu alongside windows. now i want to reinstall windows, but that'll overwrite the mbr, right? so how do i make sure i continue to boot to lilo after i reinstall windows?03:05
johndarkhorseubotu: tell zeeeee about recover03:05
gnomefreakthat was easy03:05
andrew_Some_Body: whee!  fun times, eh?03:05
Some_Bodyyep ^_^03:06
gnomefreakanjuta03:06
Some_BodyI found out why it didn't work03:06
bluefoxicymwe:  Don't forget that a 2GHz Athlon can take 2-3 cycles to do 1 instruction for the most simple (except INC and DEC, which are 1 cycle instructions); while a Pentium 4 3GHz can take 5-7 cycles on a typical instruction.03:06
gnomefreaksorry that was for termm03:06
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Some_BodyI was shoving the ethernet cable into the usb port03:06
derekthere, bitchx-gtk (:03:06
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andrew_Some_Body: lol... wow, that IS a long way! :-P03:06
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Some_Bodybecause it looked like it fit03:06
mwebluefoxicy: it would still be way,way under 1 percent load03:06
twystedo_)03:06
twystedo_003:06
Some_Bodythe tech support was baffled03:06
bluefoxicymwe:  ok so that wasn't fair for the P4, the P4 can do the same 2-3 cycles per instruction, it's just that it tries to branch predict and fails too damn much and creates that kind of inefficiency03:07
andrew_Some_Body: i mean, the modem phone port, sure... but the USB port?!03:07
maxwellYet another problem, and one that has a rather more obscure cause.03:07
Some_Body:(03:07
ilba7rgnomefreek just wondering what is your prob with anjuta?03:07
maxwellmaxwell@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.7$ fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules03:07
maxwellsed -e 's/#KVERS#/2.6.12-9-386/g' \03:07
maxwell-e 's/#DRIVER_VERSION#/1.7/g' \03:07
maxwell-e 's/#UTILS_VERSION#/1.7/g' \03:07
maxwell-e 's/#DATE#/'"`date --rfc-822`"'/g' \03:07
maxwell        -e 's/#MAINT#/Giridhar Pemmasani <pgiri@users.sourceforge.net>/g' \03:07
maxwell        debian/changelog.modules > debian/changelog03:07
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maxwell/bin/sh: debian/changelog: Permission denied03:07
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bluefoxicymwe:  anyway I just pointed gnome system monitor at it at 50mS03:07
johndarkhorsegood grief!03:07
bluefoxicywas that a /kick?03:07
Some_Bodylooks like it03:08
Some_Bodyanti-flood script?03:08
bluefoxicyrequested?03:08
johndarkhorsebluefoxicy: it was not03:08
mwebluefoxicy: if we say 10 cycles per instruction you get 3000/2000000000 = 3/2000000 or .00015 %03:08
gnomefreakits a bug in dapper03:08
Some_Bodyoh, wait03:08
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Some_Bodyno, he used /part03:08
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maxwellCould someone explain why I was just kicked off?03:08
johndarkhorsemaxwell: please read the /topic and dont paste in here03:08
ilba7rok gnomegreak i am out of league then :)03:08
twystedmaxwell you were pasting03:09
johndarkhorseubotu: tell maxwell about paste03:09
PeteyPablowake up are you alive? can you listen to me03:09
PeteyPablosomone is gonna die when you listen to m03:09
livewyerSome, I can't remember for the life of me how to properly burn a bootable cd, such as an ubuntu live cd.  Suggestions?03:09
bluefoxicymwe:  yes but every call to poll means a syscall, which has an expensive context switch, executes about 200 entry point instructions, then a file system read syscall, which falls through the sysfs or procfs wrappers and lots of procfs code03:09
derekhm, i can't decide if i like bitchx better or irssi03:09
gnomefreaknow i remember :((03:09
twystedlivewyer burn it as a image03:09
maxwellSorry about that.03:09
livewyerright....but each program has its quirky way of doing so03:09
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PeteyPablo!tell livewyer about gnomebaker03:09
livewyerhow about in k3b?03:09
bluefoxicymwe:  there's likely several tens of thousands of instructions required for a read :)03:10
Some_Bodywhich program are you running?03:10
PeteyPabloGnome baker03:10
mwebluefoxicy: I would like to see how somthing that simple would load your system by 2%03:10
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livewyeror we could go with xcdroast03:10
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shadeofgreyokay guys.. this is really embarassing but i need help -- what foleder do i put .ttf files in so that any program i use can see them?03:11
binarydigitshadeofgrey: why is that embarassing03:11
Some_Bodyhttp://www.linuxiso.org/03:11
PeteyPablo/etc/X11/fonts shadeofgrey03:11
fissy~/.fonts/ shadeofgrey03:11
Some_Bodyer, to livewyr03:11
johndarkhorseshadeofgrey: /home/shadeofgray/.fonts03:11
daskogDo Ubuntu 5.10 have support for higher resolution than 1024 on a Gf 7800gtx without installing any driver?03:11
shadeofgreybinarydigit:  because its a simple thing... i just forgot03:11
PeteyPablodaskog: no03:12
twysted daskog> more then likely NO03:12
maxwellI doubt it.03:12
daskogOk03:12
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livewyerSome, thanks03:12
maxwellThat said, running Linux on a 500$ card like the GTX without drivers is rather pointless.03:12
Some_Bodyno problem03:12
twystedlol03:12
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bluefoxicymwe:  open() -> open() prologue (20 or 30 instructions) -> syscall() -> syscall() prologue -> context switch (expensive, about 200 cycles for one operation) -> ~100 instructions at kernel syscall entry (entry.S and friends) -> sys_open() -> vfs code -> procfs code -> cpufreq code -> return out -> context switch back to userspace -> syscall() epilogue -> open() epilogue03:12
bluefoxicymwe:  Repeat for read()03:12
daskogWell im sure Softimage Xsi likes the card =P03:12
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maxwellDoes anyone know what the Debian/Changelog is?03:12
zeeeeethanks johndarkhorse03:13
gnomefreakanyone know of a GUI IDE other than anjuta for gnome?03:13
shadeofgreyif i want the font globally available petey's suggestion is best correct?03:13
twystedmaxwell check the debian site or ask in the debian channel03:13
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johnfhi03:13
bluefoxicymwe:  then do some light computations that don't much matter.03:13
maxwellI'm running Ubuntu.03:13
bluefoxicymwe:  repeat 20 times a second.  ;)03:13
johnfis anyone her familiar with kismet?03:13
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maxwellNo.03:13
PeteyPablomaxwell: ubuntu is based off debian03:13
maxwellGood point.03:13
irvinmaxwell, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-dpkgchangelog03:13
kassah_ever since I upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10... I've been getting the message http://pastebin.com/486670 in all of the automated upgrade gnome tools03:14
maxwellThanks.03:14
daskogUbuntu = Yet another Debian base distroe =P03:14
kassah_I used the command line version of the upgrade03:14
maxwellCould someone explain what this command does? fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules03:14
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irvinmaxwell, i think you'll get more info reading the developer resources at debian.org03:14
TokenBadok if I did apt-get of a file...and it installed it...where does it install it?03:14
twystedkassah_ paste yor /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin03:14
mwebluefoxicy: it seems your knowledge if the inner workings of it is more than what I know about it03:14
johnfis anyone her familiar with kismet?03:14
gnomefreakmaxwell, it doesnt tell you where you got it from what it does?03:14
PeteyPabloTokenBad: /usr/bin/ probably03:15
twystedjohnf just ask yor question03:15
TokenBadwell I need to get the config file..but I don't know what dir it installed to03:15
maxwellIt's for "building debian packages".03:15
ilba7rkassah i think you just need to run sudo apt-get update03:15
bluefoxicymwe:  I used to read kernel code for fun03:15
maxwellI imagine that I should ask in the Debian forum, but it's for installing NIDSwrapper under Ubuntu.03:15
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PeteyPablomaxwell: debian packages work perfectly on ubuntu03:16
twystedpeteypablo thats a lie03:16
Some_BodyI'm too lazy to check...does the ubuntu forum support html?03:16
PeteyPablono it isn't03:16
daskogIm trying to install the Nvidia driver and i get this:   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the03:16
daskog         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,03:16
daskog         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.03:16
TokenBadPeteyPablo, I need to edit the config file..but no idea what dir the config file is in03:16
Some_Body...nope03:16
twystedpeteypablo 99% of ubuntu and debian packages break one system or another03:16
johnfi have installed kismet through synaptic and now i configed the kismet.conf file right to my knowledge and it get a error keep comming up : GetIFFlags03:16
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PeteyPablotwysted: now thats a lie03:16
mwebluefoxicy: I see :)03:16
PeteyPabloTokenBad: for what program?03:17
kassah_twysted, http://pastebin.com/48667403:17
TokenBadiroffer03:17
Stormx2port 5651 isn't open to the outside world. How do I open it. Is there some kind of built-in firewall?03:17
daskogid be glad if someone could help me with this one03:17
kassah_ilba7r, trying it03:17
cmatheso1Stormx2: no, it must be in your router03:17
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PeteyPablocmatheso1: thats not true03:17
twystedkassh_ it looks fine just try a apt-get update then apt-get upgrade03:17
mwebluefoxicy: however, starting powernowd with -p20 still shows 0.0% cpu load for it03:17
PeteyPabloStormx2: do you have firestarter installed?03:17
gnomefreakim beginning to think i need to fix anjuta :((03:17
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TokenBadis there a way to update the info that locate uses?03:17
PeteyPabloTokenBad: updatedb03:18
Stormx2PeteyPablo: Installed, but not running.03:18
bluefoxicymwe:  true.  I guess it only gets about a million cycles a second.03:18
PeteyPabloStormx2: open it and added a policy for the port03:18
bluefoxicymwe: I'm looking at a gnome applet for a reference, there's lots of drawing code which comes out to be the same thing.03:18
SnurfWhen i try and boot Ubuntu i get: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off03:18
TokenBadthanks PeteyPablo...maybe this will tell me where its at03:18
SnurfWhats my problem?03:18
mwebluefoxicy: I see03:18
shadeofgreyokay i dont have a .fonts directory in my home...  not even among the hidden files and folders there03:19
bluefoxicymwe:  of course i'm on athlon 6403:19
Stormx2cmatheso1: Its not my router. It works fine on windows.03:19
shadeofgreyso where do i put all my brand new fonts then?03:19
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PeteyPabloStormx2: open it and added a policy for the port03:19
cmatheso1Stormx2: do you have a service running on that port?03:19
johnfi have installed kismet through synaptic and now i configed the kismet.conf file right to my knowledge and it get a error keep comming up : GetIFFlags03:19
kassah_ilba7r, seems to have worked... thanks!03:20
mwebluefoxicy: oh yeah. I'd like that. do you know a lot about the kernel?03:20
shadeofgreybluefoxicy:  amd64 support in ubuntu blows rancid ardvark balls at the moment03:20
SnurfWhen i try and boot Ubuntu i get: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off03:20
Stormx2cmatheso1: No.03:20
SnurfWHats wrong03:20
ilba7rkassah you are welcomed you just needed to update apt with the new package lists03:20
Shadymanshadeofgrey: Ew.03:20
bluefoxicyshadeofgrey:  AMD64 ubuntu crashes a lot.03:20
cmatheso1Stormx2: then what were you expecting to happen?03:20
Stormx2cmatheso1: It was firestarter.03:20
timfrostkassh_, does directory /var/lib/apt/lists exist? (and is there free sace on that filesystem)?03:20
derekbluefoxicy: not for me03:20
Stormx2cmatheso1: I was running a server off it.03:20
shadeofgreyhey03:20
gnomefreaknight all03:21
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Stormx2Good night03:21
shadeofgreyguys how about a tad bit of love for me for a few moments..  i need some font help03:21
maxwell#flood03:21
twystedshadeofgrey you can make the .fonts folder03:21
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Christians4GNT2What else should I have in my apt sources? http://files.madskillz.cc/test/test.txt03:21
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maxwellIt's quite obvious I'm a noob, yes?03:21
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SnurfWhen i try and boot Ubuntu i get: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off03:22
shadeofgreywhere should i put it if i want it gllbally abailable03:22
maxwellSeriously, though, could someone tell me how #flood works?03:22
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figfigHow do I get unicode working with ubuntu?03:22
mwebluefoxicy: so did you just start reading kernel code, or did you read a book first or what?03:22
figfigwhen I use less on a unicode fiel it does not work.03:22
twystedsnuf, did u change motherboards or soemthing or did that error just happen out of nowhere?03:22
SnurfNowhere03:22
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cmatheso1figfig: what terminal emulator are you using?03:22
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twystedsnurf, odd check out the recovery page on the wiki03:23
maxwellHas anyone had any success with NIDSwrapper under Breezy Badger?03:23
Kyralyah03:23
bluefoxicymwe:  I harassed numerous people and picked up a lot of concepts along the way03:23
maxwellI'm still trying to install it.03:24
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mwemaxwell: I had succes locking up the system a lot, before I got ipw2200 working03:24
misfit_toymaxwell, I did but I no longer use that wifi card.03:24
Friar_tuckIs there any way you can make it that you dont have to type a password to sign into ubuntu?03:24
maxwellI can't install the blasted thing.03:24
KyralYes and we WON"T tell you for very good reasons03:24
mwebluefoxicy: heh. ok. that's one way to learn03:24
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maxwellIt's telling me /bin/sh: debian/changelog: Permission denied03:25
maxwellmake: *** [build-utils-prep]  Error 103:25
Friar_tuckcos we dont wanna have to sype passwords in all the time03:25
maxwellSorry about that, I was just trying to copy the "error" line.03:25
Hericusmaxwell, tried sudo?03:26
maxwellShould I replace fakeroot with Sudo?03:26
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mwebluefoxicy: I was thinking about getting to know some of the inner working of the kernel a bit better myself. that's why I asked03:26
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figfigcmathesol: what does that mean?03:26
HericusTry sudo yes, if that doesn't work look for an alternative name to the package.03:26
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cmatheso1figfig: are you trying to read this text-file in X or at the console?03:27
maxwellWith sudo, I get this: make: dh_testdir: Command not found03:27
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misfit_toyFriar, start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27995&highlight=login+password+skip03:27
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ecarrollIs there an archive that has postgres 8.1?03:28
figfigcmathesol: in a console in X03:28
johndarkhorsemaxwell: you are missing some debian maintainer tools03:28
maxwellWhat do I have to install now?03:28
cmatheso1figfig: ok, it's not a console if it's in X, it's a terminal emulator... but which one are you running? gnome-terminal? xterm? eterm? aterm? etc?03:28
misfit_toyFriar_tuck, start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27995&highlight=login+password+skip03:28
ecarrollIs there an archive that has postgres 8.1, without moving to dopper.03:28
maxwellI've got Breezy Badger, and about two dozen packages that looked helpful.03:28
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figfigxterm03:28
HiddenWolfecarroll, dapper, and I doubt it, not officially.03:29
ecarrollHiddenWolf: why hasn't it been backported?03:29
Friar_tuckthanks03:29
mweecarroll: do you need anything specific in the latest version?03:29
HiddenWolfecarroll, because backports restrict themselves to apps that have limited impact and don't bring in new libraries.03:29
ajmitchmaxwell: build-essential, debhelper03:29
ecarrollmwe alot.03:29
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cmatheso1figfig: yeah you're not going to be able to view unicode stuff in xterm... you'll have to get a mulit-language termnial for that (mlterm, gnome-terminal, etc.)03:30
mweecarroll: like what, if I may ask?03:30
tonyyarussoHow can I open the modem using the sound card, such that I could check to see whether there is a dial tone?  (To make sure I'm not interupting someone else's session.)03:30
maxwellHow would I got Debhelper?03:30
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ecarrollhwe import w/ header, predeclared output on func03:30
tonyyarussoThe very early stage of running wvdial does this just before it starts dialing; I'd like to emulate the very beginning of that sequence.03:30
maxwellNevermind, found it with Synaptic.03:31
figfigcmathesol: I see.  Let me apt-get some stuff and see if it works.03:31
Some_Bodywoo, first forum post03:31
figfigcmathesol: thanks03:31
cmatheso1figfig: cool, good luck03:31
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ecarrollIt should be in the backport archive =[03:31
halibutis linux all ok with pcie graphics cards?03:31
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cafuegohalibut: buying amd64?03:32
ecarrollhalibut: that doesn't matter, only the make and drivers03:32
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halibutcafuego, yeah, any advice?03:32
cafuegohalibut: nvidia03:32
ecarrolldefinitly nvidia.03:33
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halibuti have been advised for to get VIA chipset mobo though?03:33
phos-phoros_just blame canada03:33
halibutrather than nforce03:34
ShadymanExactly. Blame us.03:34
cafuegohalibut: Well, as far as I'm aware nforce ones are marginally faster... but I was referring to a video card actually :-)03:34
tonyyarussoI tried reading /usr/bin/wvdial, but it said it was being converted from Mac format, and was a bunch of jibberish.03:34
cafuegotonyyarusso: Why would you read a binary files?03:35
dereklol03:35
cafuegotonyyarusso: What were you trying to accomplish?03:35
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maxwellDH-helper seems to have disappeared.03:35
Kyraldebhelper03:35
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maxwellI just installed it.03:36
sportmankidok i definatly need help03:36
sportmankidi really screwed up graphics03:36
tonyyarussocafuego: Because I don't really know what I'm looking for, but want to know what happens early on in wvdial.  I'd like to be able to basically open the modem and put the phone line through to the sound card so I can hear if there is a dial tone or something else, without actually going on and doing anything, like dialing.03:36
cafuegotonyyarusso: You'd need a cable going from the modem to the sound card then, IN the machine.03:36
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maxwellI just installed Debhelper under Synaptic; why the heck won't DH-make work?03:37
tonyyarussocafuego: Chances that exists?03:37
Kyralits dh_make03:37
sportmankidhow can i reconfigure everything03:37
maxwellsorry, it's DH_helper that won't work.03:37
sportmankidcause with glxgears i get the error03:37
sorush20how do I find out who is writing which modules03:37
tonyyarussocafuego: My pondering with wvdial is that I can hear a dial tone or other things that are happening on the line right away when I run it, before it starts dialing.03:37
sportmankidXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:38
sportmankidand its slow and tux racer is like 10fps03:38
sportmankidi tried installing ati drivers03:38
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sportmankidso i thought id be good, but apparently not03:38
sportmankid:(03:38
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cafuegotonyyarusso: Well, what you WERE doing is equivalent to opening notepad.exe in word and looking for useful info.03:38
tonyyarussocafuego: Ah.  So what would an intelligent person who knew what they were doing have done?03:39
maxwellCan anyone tell me why DH-helper won't work, even though I've installed Debhelper?03:39
maxwellShould I reboot?03:39
johndarkhorsemaxwell: rebooting is only necessary when you've replaced a kernel (and not critical then, unless you need the new kernel features immediately)03:40
dabaR__!apt-setup03:40
ubotudabaR__: Do they come in packets of five?03:40
timfrostmaxwell, the tool names start with "dh", not "DH".  Remember that linux is case-sensitive03:40
maxwellAnd, having reinstalled ndiswrapper 1.1, can I reinstall it through synaptic?03:40
maxwellAh.03:40
cafuegotonyyarusso: try to link the modem audio port up with the soundcard modem port.03:40
maxwellStill, I'm just copying it off of the HOWTO.03:40
johndarkhorsemaxwell: perhaps the debian/rules stuff isnt properly there?03:40
maxwellWhat do you mean?03:40
dabaR__Does apt-setup produce meaningful lines in Ubuntu? it does off course, right?03:40
tonyyarussocafuego: How do I do that?03:40
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timfrostmaxwell, what HOWTO?03:41
drcodehi all03:41
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cafuegotonyyarusso: By opeining up the box and checking if either cards have headers for accomplishing this.03:41
sportmankidmeh this sux03:41
figfigcmathesol: that did it, thanks.03:41
maxwellhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10453903:41
dabaR__!sucks03:41
ubotu[sucks]  a word you should NOT use in #ubuntu03:41
drcodeany one know if there is software that can connect to edonkey network and can be controll by cellur phone?03:41
tb77when trying to compile a program, i get "error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!", any ideas?03:42
dabaR__haha03:42
tonyyarussocafuego, Not a fan of opening things up on this machine, nor do I even understand what that part meant, so I wouldn't know what to look for.03:42
meepy!meep03:42
ubotumeepy: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:42
PeteyPablodrcode: what a wierd question03:42
meepy:|03:42
johndarkhorse!xincludes03:42
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev03:42
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cafuegotonyyarusso: Then I'd just give up, coz it's not going to happen unless you plug the hardware together.03:42
tb77ubotu: thank! will do.03:42
ubotusure thing, tb7703:42
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tonyyarussocafuego, Okay.  It was worth a shot.  Thanks.03:42
sportmankidim soo lost :(03:43
cafuegotonyyarusso: Well, *maybe* you can select the modem as audio device in the prefs and see if that does anything.03:43
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sportmankidcan someone pm me to help03:43
tonyyarussocafuego, Where's that?03:43
sportmankidcause i followed tuts and broke my system03:43
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cafuegotonyyarusso: Prefs -> Sound03:43
tonyyarussocafuego, All I see is Intel ICH6.03:43
sportmankidhmm03:44
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sportmankidati-radeon9600 mobility, installed drivers, system broke fixed it with some config thing, really slow graphics now03:44
sportmankid:(03:44
jimmy13632how do iget on the internet with ubuntu?03:45
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tonyyarussojimmy13632, What kind of connection?03:45
johndarkhorsejimmy13632: ask a question with more info in it03:45
sportmankidim using my wireless netgear card03:45
jimmy13632tcp03:45
PeteyPablo..03:45
timfrostmaxwell. the instructions there look correct (using "dh").  Which post in the thread were  you looking at?03:46
cafuegotonyyarusso: No joy then.03:46
ColonelPaniquejimmy13632 : what, no x.25?! ;-0\03:46
KnowerrorsAnybody using flashplugin-nonfree with firefox having problems with animations?03:46
jimmy13632How do I setup my internet connection, like with a router03:46
tonyyarussocafuego, Oh well.  I'll go find a snack or something, and then there will be joy.03:46
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_tccWhat language is ubotu coded in?03:46
dabaR__jimmy13632: did you have the connection on the router up when you were installing?03:46
johndarkhorsejimmy13632: if your router is functioning, ubuntu should get online just fine03:47
jimmy13632no03:47
dabaR__jimmy13632: then add eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces, right, johndarkhorse?03:47
_tccUBOTU IS A FUCKING BLOOT BOT!?!?!?!??!?!03:47
jimmy13632see my network cord was not plugged in during install03:47
ubotu_tcc: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:47
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dabaR__haha03:47
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sportmankidso, um about my ati?03:48
sportmankidguess no help/03:48
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johndarkhorsejimmy13632: click alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin  and see if your NIC is recognized03:48
jimmy13632does ubuntu automatically find my ethernet cablb03:48
navaronesportman, what did you do exactly to mess up config? And why was system working okay before?03:48
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dabaR__jimmy13632: echo "iface inet eth0 dhcp\n auto eth0"|sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces03:49
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dabaR__you should see two lines of output.03:49
tonyyarussoSo, before that little episode, there was an interesting question; what language IS Ubuntu coded in?03:49
jimmy13632gksudo network-admin doen't wotk03:49
dabaR__tonyyarusso: and? it is mostly in C.03:50
jimmy13632gksudo network-admin doesn't wotk03:50
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navaronetonyyarusso, tcc was not asking about ubuntu he was asking about the bot03:50
tonyyarussonavarone, Oh.  Oh well, I learned something today anyway.03:50
tonyyarussodabaR_, Ah.03:50
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dabaR__did you see 2 lines?03:50
cartesian1984why was he banned?03:50
sorush20what is the code for properly stopping and restarting the x server?03:51
cafuegocartesian1984: Use of language.03:51
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dabaR__who?03:51
navaronesportmankid, you can put what you are saying in main channel...more people read the more people can help03:51
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sportmankidok03:51
dabaR__thought police, cartesian198403:51
sportmankidi will03:51
Some_Bodyhm, recognise a few ip's on the ban list from my days on accessirc...03:51
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cartesian1984dabaR_: well said03:52
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johnfhi i need some help03:52
ShadymanOh noes! It's the thought police!03:52
dabaR__im the guy with __!03:52
johnfhow can i make it some when i connect to a net work i can look at foelr liek windows ones as well as linux?03:52
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Some_Bodythat's always fun, almost bumping into people03:52
Some_Body:)03:52
Shadymanjohnf: Samba03:52
dabaR__johnf: ya, first you need to not itc as root...first help..03:52
jimmy13632I don't understand how to setup network card, I tried gksudo network-admin and nothing came up03:52
Some_Bodyjohnf:what?03:53
Some_Bodyxwindows?03:53
johnfsorry im typiung in darkness03:53
Some_BodyI am confused as to what you said03:53
sportmankidMy system was working and i installed the ati linux driver from ati's site, then my systems x stopped working,, then i fixed it using some command which i forgot03:53
dabaR__Some_Body: he wants to read folders for windows and linux03:53
Some_Bodyooooh03:53
Some_Bodyok03:53
johnfwhat is better xwindows or samba?03:53
sportmankidthere still is no graphics accell though03:53
dabaR__on a network.03:53
sportmankidand its rea11y slow03:53
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sportmankidi tried running tuxracer it was like i was trying to run it on a 300mhz03:53
sportmankidthe graphix that is03:54
sportmankideverything on the computer is fast but the graphics03:54
skonDoes anyone know how to maximize the size of a VNC viewer?03:54
sportmankidim using an ati-radeon mobility 960003:54
jimmy13632does any one know how to setup internet connection in ubuntu03:54
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Some_Bodynever worked with samba personally..03:54
Kyralvncviewer --fullscreen03:54
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johnfi just want it so i can connect to my network at my mates house who has windows and mine which has linux at home03:54
dabaR__jimmy13632: did you see two lines of output?03:54
sportmankidany iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiideas?03:54
skonoh duh thanks kyral03:54
Some_Bodybut xwindows served all my purposes03:54
navaronesportmankid I remember you typing something about XFree server being missing...correct me if wrong but isn't Xfree been replaced by xorg?03:55
HericusDoes anyone code in perl?03:55
jimmy13632am i suppose to do that in terminal or am i supposed to use alt-f203:55
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sportmankidyea03:55
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sportmankidi think so?03:55
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Some_Bodysport:how can you not know?03:55
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jimmy13632am i suppose to do that in terminal or am i supposed to use alt-f203:55
sportmankidyea, xorg03:55
sportmankidis what i have now03:55
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sportmankidso what should i do to speed up my graphics03:56
dabaR__write to ati03:56
sportmankidim serious03:56
sportmankidi have spent hours reading documentation03:56
sportmankidand i got nowhere03:56
sportmankidand now i got a headache03:56
timfrostjimmy13632, either terminal or console03:57
johndarkhorsejimmy13632: click the button alt and the f2 button.  put 'gksudo network-admin' in the field03:57
sportmankidand i know i can get it faster03:57
dabaR__ya, now you know how the devs felt:))03:57
cafuego!fglrx03:57
ubotuI guess fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:57
cafuegosportmankid: Go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:57
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sportmankidok thanks03:57
sportmankidill try this again03:57
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navaronesportmankid...copy and paste your xorg.conf into pastebin03:57
navarone!pastebin03:57
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:57
cafuegosportmankid: That (and nothing else) is what you should follow. ALL drivers are IN Ubuntu as packages, you do NOT need to downlaod external drivers.03:57
phos-phorosspo0nman, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx03:57
meepyI got a problem when I installed Firefox 1.5 from Automatix. I have added a icon on a toolbar to my Thunderbird so I quickly can check my email - But the icon dissappar when I start Firefox, and is not to be found inside the Customize Toolbars anyway? How do I get the icon back?03:58
jimmy13632i did that and it said "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()03:58
phos-phorosand then run fglrxconfig03:58
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sportmankidah03:58
cafuegosportmankid: Essentially what you need are xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-KERNELVERSION03:58
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sportmankidcafuego, um does it matter if i already installed a different one03:59
johndarkhorsejimmy13632: got a pencil?03:59
cafuegosportmankid: phos-phoros seems to know03:59
sportmankidor if i follow that i can always backtrack?03:59
cafuegosportmankid: Which different one did you installed?03:59
jimmy13632i did that and it said "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()03:59
sportmankidxserver-xorg-driver-ati03:59
sportmankidX.Org X server -- ATI driver03:59
johndarkhorsejimmy13632: i'm trying to instruct you on how to fix that. do you have something to write on?03:59
sportmankidthats what i installed03:59
cafuegosportmankid: Yeah, that's not the one you need. Fetch xorg-driver-fglrx.03:59
phos-phorosthat's fine, jsut run sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx04:00
navaronecafuego error message he got was something about Xfree-86-DRI being missing on display04:00
cafuegosportmankid: (Just leave the other one)04:00
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sportmankidok04:00
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cafuegonavarone: That's what fglrxconfig is for.04:00
sportmankidok04:00
sportmankidi ran that command04:00
sportmankidits going04:00
navaronecafuego...jsut trying to keep the info going...lol04:00
sportmankidbrb04:00
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mevvishi04:00
phos-phoroshe might also have to mount /dev/shm for games04:01
cafuegosportmankid: Whehn that's done, /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be set to use the "fglrx" driver.04:01
cafuegophos-phoros: that's done automagically.04:01
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phos-phoroscafuego, it wasn't for me04:02
sportmankidwait cafuego how do i run that?04:02
eric_I'm trying to install RealPlayer and I get an error something about shared libraries, can someone please help me04:02
sportmankidjust type sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:02
cafuegophos-phoros: A normal breezy install should have /dev/shm mounted.04:02
sportmankidor ..04:02
cafuegosportmankid: 'grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf'04:02
sportmankidahh grep04:02
dabaR__sportmankid: meet terminal, terminal, meet sportmankid.04:03
sportmankidi should learn what that command means04:03
cafuego'man grep' :-)04:03
phos-phorosI wonder why /dev/shm wasn't pre-mounted for myself then04:03
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phos-phorosor maybe even, this occured after the last kernel update04:03
tonyyarussoI must say, every time I use that command I have to think of the explanation of it in the linux.org tutorial that makes it a Star Trek reference; "grepping now Captain".04:04
sportmankidhmm04:04
sportmankidwhen i ran that grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:04
sportmankidnothing happened04:04
eric_When I try to install RealPlayer I get error msg something about "libstdc"04:04
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tonyyarussosportmankid, What about grep ati /etc/X11/xorg.con?04:04
johnfdf04:05
johnff04:05
johnfvg04:05
PeteyPablobesides gftp whats a good ftp client?04:05
Kyralftp04:05
johnfhoe can i view folder on the network?04:05
phos-phorossftp04:05
PeteyPablothey have gui?04:05
dabaR__ya04:05
Kyralno04:05
Kyrallol04:05
PeteyPabloi need gui04:05
tonyyarussoeric_, You'll need the package libstdc++5 or libstdc++6 then.04:05
sportmankid# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)04:05
sportmankid# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using04:05
sportmankid# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*04:05
sportmankid# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated04:05
sportmankid        Driver          "ati"04:05
dabaR__sftp is an awesome gui within gnome-terminal04:06
twystedplease dont paste04:06
PeteyPablo..lol04:06
ColonelPaniquephos-phoros : sftp doesn't help much for pulling down files from an anonymous ftp server. ;-)04:06
dabaR__open screen even04:06
twystedubotu: tell sportmankid about paste04:06
eric_I have libstdc++604:06
KnowerrorsCan anyone help with flashplugin-nonfree, it installs but doesn't show up in firefox04:06
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Davey`Is it safe to remove older kernels?04:06
meepyI got a problem when I installed Firefox 1.5 from Automatix. I have added a icon on a toolbar to my Thunderbird so I quickly can check my email - But the icon dissappar when I start Firefox, and is not to be found inside the Customize Toolbars anyway? How do I get the icon back?04:06
Kyralyes04:06
Davey`and/or 386 kernels (I'm using K7)04:07
Kyralbut keep at least one backup04:07
tonyyarussoSee sportmankid's, cafuego?04:07
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Kyraljust in case04:07
ColonelPaniqueKnowerrors : not in the list when you put about:plugins in the addressbaar?04:07
Linfanim having issues with amarok....when i try to play a song it says dev/dsp/ is in use by another program but im not running no other music playe04:07
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Linfanand then it just closes04:07
sportmankiddid you see what happend cafuego04:08
maxwellCan anyone tell me how to get GCC 3.4?04:08
maxwellSynaptic only gets me GCC 3.304:08
cafuegosportmankid: yes, you pasted output that my grep command could not have generated.04:08
KnowerrorsColonelPanique: right04:08
PeteyPablohow do i change the local directory that gftp starts with (permantently) ?04:08
ColonelPaniqueKnowerrors : blast!04:09
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Linfanso nobody can help me with my issue ha04:09
tonyyarussocafuego, It was to mine after yours generated no output, to confirm.04:09
KnowerrorsColonelPanique: I also checked in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/04:09
timfrostmaxwell, what distribution?  GCC 3.4 is in the breezy repository04:09
dabaR__!+info gcc04:09
maxwellBreezy Badger.04:09
ubotugcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.0.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB04:09
maxwellI have GCC 3.3 base, and I can't get anything better.04:09
Ron_olinfan, maybe you could try Amorak site?04:09
maxwellAt least I think it's Breezy.04:09
KnowerrorsColonelPanique: synaptic tells me its installed there, but its not, so I tried "remove completely" of flashplug, then reinstalled it, still no good04:10
ColonelPaniqueKnowerrors : dang.  you using the standard mozilla / firefox with ubuntu?04:10
Knowerrorsyes04:10
sorush20!k804:10
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, sorush2004:10
maxwellHow can you tell if it's Hoary Hedgehog?04:10
LinfanRon_o you know what thats a smart idea-i should do that thanks alot04:10
sorush20!AMD04:10
ubotusorush20: I don't know, could you explain it?04:10
sorush20!64bit04:10
ubotusorush20: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:10
maxwellI recall seeing 5.10 somewhere, which should correspond.04:10
dabaR__maxwell: what does "/exec cat /etc/issue" as a message to this channel say?04:10
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sorush20!AMD6404:10
ubotuNot a clue, sorush2004:10
Camilowell i installed breezy, but even during the installation it told me DHCP had failed, i installed without configuring the network, because nothing i tried worked. Now i'm trying to configure it, and i can't for the life of me figure out what's wrong, any help?04:10
dabaR__sorush20: can you query him in private?04:11
timfrostmaxwell, /etc/issue has the distribution name.04:11
KnowerrorsColonelPanique: maybe I should remove it and then flush my synaptic package cache, so it downloads it again04:11
sorush20dabaR_ how do I do that?04:11
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dabaR__sorush20: read the pm he will send you to start off, and then ask me if you have any more questions04:11
ColonelPaniqueKnowerrors : you could use that easybreezy thingamajiggy to install flash for you... http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/04:11
phos-phoros /msg ubotu !spame04:11
phos-phoros /msg ubotu !spam04:12
PeteyPablo..04:12
PeteyPablo!botsnack04:12
ubotuthanks peteypablo :)04:12
Shadymanyou mean \msg04:12
Camilobtw, this is on a laptop Compaq Presario 2100, and i'm trying to connect with my linksys wifi car04:12
sorush20Camilo: what card do you have and is it a wireless card?04:12
phos-phoros /msg ubotu !fglrx04:12
phos-phorosoops04:12
tonyyarussoIs Thunderbird capable of associating more than 2 e-mail addresses with an address book card/entry?04:12
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Camiloyea, a wireless card, and hold on, i04:12
Camiloi'm trying to find out what card it is exactly without taking it out, ubuntu is not detecting the card when i take it out and put it back in04:13
KnowerrorsColonelPanique: that easybreezy and automatix can mess up your system, I do every thing manually, learn more that way04:13
Linfananyway to have my wifi led light turned on? i have wifi but my laptops wifif turn off and on button is not working04:14
sorush20Camilo: you don't have to take it out.. this is linux everthing is done by typing in things..04:14
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sorush20Camilo: type lspci04:14
ColonelPaniqueKnowerrors : errr..maybe it is now EasyUbuntu actually... I dunno, I am a VMS user myself. I use ubuntu for my x10 automation platform mainly.04:14
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sorush20which list all the pci devices.. hence the name. and no there is  no ls agp04:14
Camilolspci04:15
Camilooops04:15
tonyyarussoIs there another channel that would be good for a Thunderbird question?04:15
Camilowrong computer04:15
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sorush20Camilo: oh damn your using a different computer .. wow that is extreem..04:15
cafuegoHmm, rhythmbox with daap is much sexier :-)04:15
tuvhow can i configure an isa sound card (sb16)?04:15
binarydigittonyyarusso: there is a mozilla irc network if i recall04:15
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cafuegotuv: via pnpdump/isapnp04:15
ColonelPaniqueKnowerrors : ahhh, yes.  well linux is sure the twiddly fiddly tweaky os, so good luck with all that.  hope ya get it working.04:15
sorush20Camilo: did you manage ?04:16
Camiloyea04:16
tonyyarussobinarydigit, Know the address, or should I look around on their site?04:16
cafuegotuv: If you have a free pci slow, sblives are REALLY cheap.04:16
cafuegos/slow/slot/04:16
Camilonothing in particular looks like a card04:16
sorush20Camilo: what do you get do you get any thing that is remotly familiar to a wirless card?04:16
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binarydigittonyyarusso: can't remember off hand, try the website04:16
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Camiloer, Ethernet controller would be the closest, and that's not it04:16
tuvcafuego: i'm trying qemu, which emulates an sb1604:16
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sorush20Camilo: okay don't worry..04:17
cafuegotuv: Joy *heh*04:17
tonyyarussobinarydigit, Okay.04:17
sorush20Camilo: do you have access to the internet on that computer?04:17
cafuegotuv: Probably 5 1 5 (irq, dma, dma16)04:17
sorush20Camilo: that was a dumb question04:17
Camilonope, it's not connecting to the wireless ruoter04:17
rhionahi, i'm trying to uninstall ubuntu from my comp, how do i remove the linux boot menu at startup?04:17
sorush20Camilo: sorry.. okay stick in the cd rom04:17
tonyyarussoSince when is mozilla a .com?04:17
Camiloinstall cd?04:17
sorush20Camilo:  the ubuntu one? are you i gnome the brown desktop ..04:18
Camiloyea, it's in04:18
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sorush20Camilo: yes the install cd.. we are going to install a magical program called ndiswrapper and the name becomes self explanitory like anything in linux04:18
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sorush20Camilo: start synaptic.04:19
ColonelPaniquetonyyarusso : over a few weeks ago...global domination it seems.04:19
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tonyyarussoColonelPanique, Weird.04:19
Camiloall right04:19
sorush20Camilo: you did that.. then search for ndiswrapper..04:19
johndarkhorsetonyyarusso: since the firefox exploded04:19
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Camilogot ndiswrapper-utils04:20
sorush20Camilo: by the way btw, what version are you using breezy ?04:20
sorush20Camilo: excelt install04:20
Camilobreezy, yea04:20
twystedrhiona> install whatever os, aka windows or another linux and it will go away04:20
sorush20Camilo: that was step one04:20
Some_Bodyhooray, it wasn't my hard drive that was faulty, it was the disk :)04:20
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Camilook, all installed now04:21
sorush20Camilo: step two is to find the semi useless cd rom that of the wireless card that you are have problems with04:21
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Some_Bodysorush:semi-useless?04:21
Camilohm, that'll take some more work, hold on04:21
sorush20Camilo: do you have it yet04:21
tonyyarussobinarydigit, Found the channel.  Not very talkative though.04:21
Camiloyea04:21
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Some_Bodythe card will usually only operate with a product-specific driver04:22
sorush20Camilo: all we want from the huge cd is just three files from it.. really its probebly less than a 1mb in size..04:22
sorush20Camilo:  you found the sexy cd or not?04:22
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punkrockguy318Is there anywhere that i can find a repository including a package of ffmpeg that doesn't suck?  The ffmpeg included in Ubuntu does not support mp4 or aac04:22
ColonelPaniqueSome_Body :  i think it is semi-useless because its primary use is for microshaft winblows, and of course that is a useless "operating system". ;-)04:22
Camiloyea, got it, put it in, and that's good, i'd hate to have to take the whole cd04:22
Some_Bodywell, again, ndiswrapper solves the problem04:22
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Some_Bodyndiswrapper solves all the world's problems04:23
Some_Bodyor at least, those related to wireless netoworking with linux04:23
intelikeypunkrockguy318 all non-free formats suck04:23
ColonelPaniqueSome_Body : ndiswrapper DOES NOT turn my netgear WiFi driver CDROM into a tasty British Ale! ;-)04:23
sorush20Camilo: now there is a semi linux loving directory there called drivers, then there is probebly another xp driver in there..04:23
bipolaris ubuntu going to patch the ati driver for dapper or are we going to have to wait for ati to do it?04:23
punkrockguy318intelikey, it's so true, and it sucks works when you have a device that will only use them04:24
Camilohm, maybe there's another cd... there's no "drivers" in here04:24
punkrockguy318intelikey, do you know of any ubuntu repository included non-free codecs?04:24
Some_Bodycolonel:the latest release can04:24
sorush20Camilo: find the three files I told you about that is and .inf file, .sys and a .somthing else I can't remember..04:24
johndarkhorse!nonfree04:24
ubotuNot a clue, johndarkhorse04:24
intelikey!w32formats04:24
ubotuWish i knew, intelikey04:24
Camilooh, inf, sys and cat?04:24
intelikey!w32codecs04:24
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install04:24
johndarkhorse!codecs04:24
PeteyPablo!restricted formats04:24
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories04:24
ubotuI heard restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'04:24
sorush20Camilo: BTW what is the make of the card now that you  have the cd?04:24
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sethkbipolar, I believe that it is a kernel issue and that ati will address it04:25
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ejofeeis it risky to install on my breezy the following packages from dapper ?: cpp-4.0 / g++-4.0 / gcc-4.0 / gcc-4.0-base / gij-4.0 / libcupsys2-gnutls10 / libgcc1 libgcj6 libgcrypt11 libgpg-error0 libidn11 libkrb53 liblo0 libopencdk8 libqt3-mt / libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.0-dev libtasn1-2 libxml204:25
Some_Bodycolonel:watch for fatal errors, those might be bad04:25
sethkejofee, hard to give a hard and fast answer04:26
sethkejofee, the compiler versions should be ok04:26
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sethkejofee, the qt library, depends on the version and the version it replaces04:26
ColonelPaniqueSome_Body : i drink responsibly, old chap.  locked away safely in the datacenter for eBay! ;-)04:26
bipolarsethk: yes, my understanding is the same, but I didn't know if the patch was going to be applied on the ubuntu side or the ati side.04:26
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crimsunejofee: if you're going to install them from Dapper into a Breezy system, you may as well use Dapper, else you'll run into silent memory corruption.04:27
sethkbipolar, it will be applied on the ubuntu side, but it may be available sooner from ati (or so I've been told)04:27
sorush20Camilo: ndis is an acrynom for n etwork device Interface S.... and the wrapper is that it uses those there files to wrap an xp drive system to a linux drive system..04:27
sethkbipolar, not direct knowledge on my part, just hearsay04:27
Some_Bodyyay, 2 cd's with fatal errors04:27
Camilohm, says the same thing Linksys Instant Wireless PC Card Model NO.  WPC11 ver. 304:27
halibutWhich one should I get?  XFX 6600 512MB DDR2 DUAL DVI TV Out PCI-E XT Edition        OR    Xfx Geforce 6600GT 128MB DDR PCI-E Dual DVI TVO04:27
ejofeesethk, crimsun: i am on kubuntu and i think, since it doesn't ask me to reinstall anything from kde, then everything should be ok. am i right?04:27
crimsunejofee: no.04:27
sorush20Camilo: you can check it out using the lspci.04:27
PeteyPablowhen dapper comes out am i going to have to start from scratch or will i be able to apt-get the upgrades??????????/04:27
yaaaranybody around here know anything about digital sound outputs?04:27
Some_Bodythis is just strange, I can't get a clean burn from nero04:27
sethkejofee, theoretically, sure.  Still I'd probably check the versions and the kde web site, just to be cautios04:27
johndarkhorsePeteyPablo: the wonderful thing about debian linux is that you never have to reinstall to upgrade04:27
sethkcautious04:27
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bipolarsethk: *nod04:28
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crimsunejofee: like I said before, you may as well run Dapper if you want those versions from Dapper, because the allocator change will result in silent memory corruption for apps that do install.04:28
sorush20Camilo: in the terminal go to the same directory as the drivers on the cd and the three files.04:28
johndarkhorsePeteyPablo: it's called 'seamless upgrade'04:28
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Camiloyea still doesn't look  like its there04:28
ejofeecrimsun: what do you mean by "you may as well use dapper"?04:28
PeteyPablojohndarkhorse: that is music to my ears thank you04:28
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punkrockguy318intelikey, i wish that the information in restrictedformats helped, but I need to convert movie files to mp4 files.  This can be done with ffmpeg, but it needs to be compiled with the proper configure flags.  Ubuntu cripples most media support in ffmpeg, even though it is universe04:28
crimsunejofee: I mean don't mix Dapper and Breezy -- particularly for C++ applications.04:28
ColonelPaniquejohndarkhorse : you have a resource for this? how it works and all the gory details, and suchforth?04:28
sorush20Camilo: do you know how the cdrom is mounted to your system so that you know how to cd your way up to that directroy?04:28
yaaari've got an onboard audio chip with coax spdif out. i just heard my first sound come out of it, buy running 'aplay -D spdif sound.wav' ....but nothing else makes noise.04:28
Camiloyea, i'm there04:29
Ferris_Bhiya all! I b0rked my apache2 that I installed from apt-get, it suddenly no longer wants to interpret php. So, I removed it and installed httpd-2.0.55 from source. I dont want it on there any more, though, how do I uninstall something installed from source?04:29
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ejofeecrimsun: i see. i thought you meant there was a metapackage which you recommended me to also install04:29
TGoCPlease do not send people over to #debian when they are running Ubuntu, thank you.04:29
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twystedferris_b remove the directory its in IE /etc/apache204:29
johndarkhorseColonelPanique: resource for what?04:29
crimsunejofee: no, it's extremely dangerous to attempt what you're doing.04:29
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ejofeecrimsun: i see. thank you.04:29
sorush20Camilo: I know how to use ndiswarpper .. so here is the code for it sudo ndiswrapper -i nameof.inf04:29
ColonelPaniquejohndarkhorse : "seamless upgrade" to Dapper?04:29
intelikeypunkrockguy318 sorry i can't help you there, i don't use ubuntu.04:29
sorush20Camilo: get it04:30
ejofeeseth: thank you, too.04:30
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Ferris_Btwysted, I tried that but there seems to be lingering files in other locations that are trying to run . My concern is nuking the wrong files04:30
PeteyPablointelikey: you don't ?04:30
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yaaarFerris_B: typically the source comes with a make target 'deinstall' you can use for this04:30
intelikeyPeteyPablo no.04:30
crimsunpunkrockguy318: there are both legal and technical reasons why we don't enable all the configuration options for ffmpeg.04:30
PeteyPablointelikey: you help people here alot for not using it your self, me included :-)04:30
bshumate Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?04:30
johndarkhorseColonelPanique: it's a trait common to debian based distros. apt-get will seamlessly upgrade to the next version of anything04:30
Camilogot it04:30
Ferris_Bheh04:30
CamiloAnd it installed the inf file04:30
intelikeyyes PeteyPablo, and thanks for the flowers.04:30
Camiloerr, the whole thing04:30
ColonelPaniquejohndarkhorse : oh, excellent.  cannot wait! thanks for the tip, mate!04:30
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crimsunUsing Ubuntu is not a prerequisite for helping out. :)04:31
PeteyPablointelikey: no problem, if you dont mind what do you use debian, slack?04:31
johndarkhorsepunkrockguy318: compile mplayer from source yourself, you'll be glad you did04:31
punkrockguy318crimsun, it's in mutliverse though, why do we need to follow US laws?04:31
crimsunpunkrockguy318: what's in multiverse?04:31
punkrockguy318crimsun, ffmpeg04:31
crimsunpunkrockguy318: no it's not.04:31
sorush20Camilo: you installed the .inf files.04:32
crimsunit's very much in universe, which is precisely why we have both legal and technical issues.04:32
Camiloyea04:32
punkrockguy318crimsun, oh, your right.04:32
ejofeesethk: thank you (i misspelled your nick earlier)04:32
punkrockguy318johndarkhorse, i think i will04:32
sorush20Camilo: did you get a promt saying there was a radio state change to 0?04:32
Camilonope04:32
sethkejofee, np  :)04:32
Some_Bodylegal issues?04:32
sorush20Camilo: what is the name of the inf files?04:32
punkrockguy318Some_Body, US patent issues04:32
Some_Bodyoh04:32
sorush20Camilo: is it bcmwl5.inf04:32
johndarkhorsepunkrockguy318: when you get the source, make sure you have all the -dev libs you want to compile support for into it04:33
Some_Bodythen move the server to a foreign country04:33
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johndarkhorsepunkrockguy318: and ./configure --help04:33
Camilono, it is lswl2nds.inf04:33
punkrockguy318johndarkhorse, alright, thank you!!04:33
sorush20Camilo: in that case your are okay.04:33
intelikeyPeteyPablo yes it is.04:33
Camilohey there's another inf file, wait a minute04:33
Some_Bodyappoint a figurehead to run it, and maybe change the url of the ubuntu site04:33
PeteyPablointelikey: cool04:33
ejofeewhom are you refering to here?: "<TGoC> Please do not send people over to #debian when they are running Ubuntu, thank you."04:33
sorush20Camilo: now type sudo modporbe ndiswrapper04:33
twystedejofree dont worry about it04:34
crimsunejofee: ignore the trolls.04:34
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Some_Bodyworked for that bootleg everquest server, iceyfire or whatever it was originally called04:34
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Camilomodporbe?04:34
Camiloor modprobe04:34
sorush20Camilo: its a little complicated.modprobe04:34
sorush20Camilo: modprobe04:35
sorush20now type sudo gedit /etc/networking/interface04:35
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PeteyPablowhy does ventrilo not have a linux client -.-04:36
Camiloall right well modprobe doesn't give the most encouraging answer:  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not Permitted04:36
jdcaserockiesDoes anyone know how to make rhythmbox the default player for mp3's and wma's?04:36
Davey`PeteyPablo: because its typically used by gamers and the majority of games use Windows?04:36
PeteyPablojdcaserockies: right click one of each file type > opens with and select rhythmbox04:36
sorush20Camilo: sudo ndiswrapper -m04:36
ejofeecrimsun, sethk: could you please tell me which of the following dapper packages are most likely to create problems in breezy: cpp-4.0 / g++-4.0 / gcc-4.0 / gcc-4.0-base / gij-4.0 / libcupsys2-gnutls10 / libgcc1 libgcj6 libgcrypt11 libgpg-error0 libidn11 libkrb53 liblo0 libopencdk8 libqt3-mt / libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.0-dev libtasn1-2 libxml204:36
intelikeyCamilo did you forget to sudo it04:36
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bipolarhow about this... is anyone useing the xorg "radeon" driver in dapper?04:37
PeteyPabloDavey`: i guess so, but it seems dumb not to have a linux one04:37
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crimsunejofee: all of them.04:37
bipolarI've got a 9000 which should be supported.04:37
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sorush20Camilo: did it work?04:37
Davey`jdcaserockies: Right Click > Properties > Open With (tab) > Check the application you want. For a single file of each type04:37
jdcaserockiespeteypablo, that doesn't work04:37
PeteyPablojdcaserockies: it does..?04:37
Camiloyea i sudo'd it, and did what you said sorush20 it came out to Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper04:38
PeteyPablojdcaserockies: davey just told you the same thing04:38
jdcaserockiespeteypablo, I'm telling you just did it multiple times and it does not make it the default player04:38
jdcaserockiesthat i just did it*04:38
HericusWhats to be done after apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?04:38
Hericus:( I'm tired, forgive me..04:38
crimsunHericus: ...what are you trying to do?04:39
twystedhericus at the login screen choose session and choose xbuntu or xfce :)04:39
HericusOh.04:39
HericusDor.04:39
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twystedhehe04:39
HericusThat only made it worse.04:39
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sorush20Camilo: now type sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces04:39
jdcaserockiespeteypablo, it always uses XMMS, a friend of mine used the terminal somehow to make it that way, but XMMS doesn't work. How can I change it back04:39
PeteyPablojdcaserockies: you want to install xmms?04:40
twystedimma go see if linux supports my laptops hardware so i can get rid of windows04:40
sorush20Camilo: past what you see in that file into the #flood channel04:40
Camiloshort file04:40
jdcaserockiespeteypablo, no, I want to use rhythmbox, and when i double click a music file it tries to open XMMS isntead of rhythmbox04:40
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PeteyPablojdcaserockies: well we both told you how, i'm not sure why it isn't working properly04:40
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Tortel!test04:41
ubotuPassed.04:41
Unityhow can i move a 2gb file with smb? this is urgent...and the limit is apparently 2gb04:41
jdcaserockiespeteypablo, would it help if i showed you the commands he typed in?04:41
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PeteyPablojdcaserockies: i don't know04:41
johndarkhorseUnity: break it into smaller pieces04:41
bshumateUnity: compress the file first?04:41
Unityjohndarkhorse: is that a joke?04:41
Unityjohndarkhorse: or are ypou serious?04:41
intelikeyjdcaserockies sudo apt-get remove --purge xmms   maybe ?04:41
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bshumateUnity: man split   ....it is not a joke. ;-)04:42
jdcaserockiesintelikey, I'll try that04:42
ITSa341there is a limit to file size with smb?04:42
Unitybshumate: how do i cat it with windows?04:42
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crimsunsmb is a protocol and doesn't care about sizes04:42
UnityITSa341: i dunno if this is just smb but i got stuck at 2 gb04:42
ejofeecrimsun: is there any way to make apt-get show me the list of packages on which no other package depends?04:42
ejofeecrimsun: (or not necessarily apt-get)04:43
teprrrejofee, deborphan04:43
ColonelPaniqueit is a Linux kernel limit which was supposed to be overcome by now...oh well...04:43
Unitycrimsun: i used sudo mv, from a mounted ext3 to a mounted smbfs04:43
intelikeyUnity M$ type == linux cat    more or less anyway04:43
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ejofeeteprrr: thank you04:43
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teprrrejofee, np04:43
bshumateUnity: you can use WinZip or similar to make a multi-part archive04:43
Tortelwinrar04:43
crimsunejofee: please don't make this more difficult than it is. If you want to mix Dapper-compiled C++ apps in your Breezy system, DON'T. I'm trying to save you headaches.04:43
ITSa341hmm  I hope i don't have trouble with that, I regularly move files up to 8GB04:43
johndarkhorseUnity: no it is not. you can use archive tools to make segmented files out of one04:43
ToranHey guys, is there a program for linux that will allow me to transfer my music to my iPod video? I'd like to transfer my photos and album artwork as well.04:44
ColonelPaniqueITSa341 : you will have trouble... 8GB > 2G04:44
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johndarkhorseToran: gtkpod04:44
ejofeecrimsun: yes, i already decided not to. this latter question of mine is not related to my former intention.04:44
Unitymoving with a sudo nautilus also returned the same error04:44
ToranTo my knowledge that doesn't support artwork04:44
ITSa341dangit I really don't want to have to go back to windows but I keep running into things I do daily that won't be easy to do anymore04:44
johndarkhorseUnity: oooh. dont do that "sudo nautilus will mangle your user permissions"04:45
crimsunejofee: there are several tools; teprrr named one04:45
johndarkhorseubotu: tell Unity about gksudo04:45
jdcaserockiesCan someone help me with file type associations? I have alist of commands here that associate music with XMMS, but I want it back to rhythmbox. Help!04:45
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ColonelPaniqueITSa341 : you just need to learn how to compress and segment largge files...no big deal...haha no pun intended!04:45
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Unityjohndarkhorse: thx i never knew that!04:46
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ITSa341Colonel,  doing that many times a day slows me down which costs me money. Defeats the whole purpose of switching04:46
navaroneyu want to use to open files04:47
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ColonelPaniqueITSa341 : yeah, well the alternative is to fix the kernel, and remove the 2GB limitation.  I worked in a company that completely ditched 100 Linux servers because they could not swap >2GB files with Windows servers each day. :-(04:47
navaronejdcaserockies, right click music file (mp3) and click properties/Open with and chose prog to open files by default04:47
ColonelPaniquecourse SMB as a protocol sucks anyway. :;-)04:48
bipolarok. can anyone help me? this is what I've got:04:48
bipolar$ grep "rendering" /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:48
bipolar(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled04:48
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bipolarThe xorg log shows direct rendering is working, right?04:48
ITSa341Colonel. That is NOT an option for me. I have a hard time even finding the kernel much less modifying it.04:48
bipolarbut glxinfo says it's not.04:48
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hericusafter apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, I still can't boot into it.. :/04:49
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Unitysplit copies the file?04:49
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ColonelPaniqueITSa341 : see ^ : use something other than SMB to transfer your whopper files...it will be more efficient to use NFS, SCP, or even FTP than SMB anyways...04:49
crimsunhericus: choose Xfce4 in gdm's session menu04:49
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Unityargh i don't 3.7 gigs free...04:49
ejofeecrimsun, teprrr: i think it would be cool if deborphan were integrated in synaptic. this way, synaptic could provide a list of the orphans. more (important) than this, it could tell which are the new packages which become orphan after i uninstall something, so i would know which orphans is safe to also uninstall. it would thus make synaptic a very efficient uninstaller.04:49
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crimsunejofee: its functionality is built into aptitude already.04:50
hou5tonI just trying playing a DVD movie on my laptop ... Totem came up ... said it was encrypted and I needed libdvdcss.  BUT, libdvdcss is listed in my Synaptic???04:50
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell hou5ton about libdvdcss204:50
monwayget it from videolan.org04:50
monwayclick on developers link04:50
monwaygrab libdvdcss from subversion04:50
crimsunjohndarkhorse already provided the relevant info04:51
ejofeecrimsun: also automatizing the "enhanced uninstallation" process that i was talking about?04:51
monwaysince it has a debian folder inside the source04:51
johndarkhorseubotu: tell monway about libdvdcss204:51
monwaycompile it04:51
monwayoh the french thing ?04:51
Camilohappy learning, sorush20 , i hope so:)04:51
johndarkhorsemonway: my way is easier04:51
crimsunejofee: aptitude already handles it. Synaptic doesn't.04:51
monwayheh ..04:51
ejofeecrimsun: i see, thank you.04:51
Stormx2Maybe someone could give me a hand? Sound juicer says "invalid parametres" when I try to extract04:51
ejofeecrimsun: does aptitude have any gui frontend?04:51
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crimsunejofee: just curses afaik04:52
johndarkhorseejofee: not it does not. use synaptic04:52
sportmankid hmm04:52
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sowdogAnyone here know the gnome naming convention for icons?04:52
MadpilotStormx2: extract what into which format?04:52
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Unitywhat is the de-facto ftp server?04:52
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Stormx2Madpilot: I've tried MP3 and FLAC04:53
hericusI added xfce4.. but it still doesn't load.04:53
Unitylike apache is the de-facto httpd, what is the supreme ftpd04:53
ColonelPaniqueUnity : no such thing as the de facto ftpd04:53
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Linfancan somebody please explain to me-how do i install custom mouse themes? what folder do i have to look in to find them?04:53
crimsunhericus: what are you selecting?04:53
johndarkhorsehericus: try 'xubuntu-desktop'04:53
MadpilotStormx2: hmm... flac & ogg both work here, I've never bothered setting up mp3 ripping04:53
UnityColonelPanique: would pure-ftpd be up there with the best?04:53
monwayit should be congigured with your mouse preferences04:53
Stormx2Wait, it works now...04:53
Stormx2I checked "Strip special charactors"04:54
monwaymost themes you install comes with cursors04:54
monwaysome you have to manually install04:54
hericusgah, brb.04:54
monwaybut nevertheless you can change corsors from preferences04:54
Linfanmonway to what folder do i install them>?04:54
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Linfani downloaded a cursor oack from gnome-look04:54
monwayuse the theme tool to install it04:54
monwaydrag and drop04:54
Linfani dont know how to install it04:54
cozhello all04:54
ejofeewhat does "virtual packages" mean?04:54
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ejofeemetapackages?04:54
Linfani tried it but for some reason it wont accept the drop04:54
monwaythen configure the theme with mouse preferences04:55
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monwayis it a metacity theme?04:55
monwayor kde?04:55
cozyou have to install gcursor04:55
twysted:( x hangs on the live cd on my laptop lol04:55
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monwaygcursor is for gnome i believe04:55
cozyou have kde04:55
hericusNope..04:55
ColonelPaniqueUnity : sure, PureFTPD, ProFTPD, Wu-FTP, all about the same performance, all about the same bucha security holes... httpd has intrinsically less security issues than ftpd, so that is why there is no defacto.  plus some ftpd like ProFTPD are not completely open.04:55
monwaybut the real question is .. for which windowmanager?04:55
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monwayi dont know much about kde because i generally use gnome04:56
intelikeyejofee virtual packages don't contain files just the config script  afaik04:56
UnityColonelPanique: ok thx for the info04:56
monwayso if its a gnome question i can help04:56
monway:)04:56
cozgnome is better and more logica;04:56
hericusxfce still doesn't load.04:56
cozlogical04:56
monwayyeah04:56
monwaygconf04:56
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monwaygotta love that04:56
crimsunhericus: you didn't answer my question04:56
Linfanwhats the proper command to install it? im new ito ubuntu is--this the way-sudo get-install gcursor04:56
Linfan?04:56
cozkde too cute for me04:56
hericuscrimsun, I must've missed it..04:56
twystedlinfan sudo apt-get install gcursor04:57
intelikey!start a desktop war04:57
ubotuintelikey: What?04:57
jaebird>:o04:57
monwayyou type sudo apt-get install gcursor04:57
crimsunhericus: I asked how you're selecting Xfce04:57
Jeeves_mossall:  any one here had any luck install Ubuntu on a Compaq Smart Array PCI?04:57
monwayhehe04:57
Linfancool thanks04:57
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cozfirst type in apt-get install menu04:57
monwayor use synaptic04:57
ColonelPaniqueUnity : actually it appears proftpd is gpl now... i dunno, i quit using ftp in favor of sftp a long time ago ;-)04:57
cozthat will give you the debian menu04:57
monwayand search for gcursor04:57
cozthen restart kde04:57
cozthen apt-get gcursor04:57
Unity`sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start` doesn't start pure-ftpd for some reason04:57
Unityany one else have that problem?04:57
hericuscrimsun, I'm given an option to add sessions.04:57
ColonelPaniqueUnity : look at the relevant logs to see why04:58
monwayunity check top04:58
cozlet me try unity04:58
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Linfanit says i already have the latest gcursor?04:58
Jeeves_mossunity:  do you hae any knolage with install Ubuntu on a Proliant server?04:58
monwayrun top to see if you have running pureftpd first before saying its not running04:58
Unityit can log without starting?04:58
monwaytop -u user04:58
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ColonelPaniqueUnity : sue... it can log an *error* ;-)04:58
monwayexample top -u monway04:58
ColonelPaniques/sue/sure04:58
mumanddadhas anyone got audacious to work with ubuntu?04:58
Unityi didn't see it in `ps -A`04:58
Linfani took off the debian menu do i really need it?04:58
Jeeves_mossunity:  are you trying to talk to me?  if so, please pre-fix your answer with my name so I can see it.04:59
hou5tonok .... I "think" I did what I was supposed to do with that message sent regarding playing DVD's ... but still doesn't work04:59
UnityJeeves_moss: what is a proliant server?04:59
hou5tondo I need to reboot or something04:59
cozLinfan did you install anything04:59
hericuscrimsun?04:59
monwaypersonally ubuntu should work like gentoo but with a debian bootstrapping and package management04:59
crimsunhericus: But what session are you selecting in GDM?04:59
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intelikey `ps -A x`04:59
monwaydebian compiling according to cc configs04:59
monwayubuntu would be so much more optimized04:59
FliesLikeABrickwhere do programs like gaim and evolution mail execute firefox from?04:59
Jeeves_mossunity:  a proliant server is a rackmount server made by Compaq.  I'm having issues with installing ubuntu on it.04:59
crimsunmonway: go for it.04:59
monwayi generally do05:00
hericusWell its set to default, I changed to to xubuntu-desktop and logged out. Logged back in, and get gnome.05:00
monwayi recompile all my stuff05:00
UnityJeeves_moss: so...why are you asking me in particular?05:00
hou5tonI just trying playing a DVD movie on my laptop ... Totem came up ... said it was encrypted and I needed libdvdcss.  BUT, libdvdcss is listed in my Synaptic???05:00
ColonelPaniqueUnity : yer not gonna find log messages with the ps command! ;-)05:00
monwayi dont go with defautl05:00
coz/usr/share/bin05:00
monwayi'm a debian whore05:00
monwayhehe05:00
Jeeves_mossUnity:  you asked earlier if any one had any questions.05:00
Linfani got it to work thanks alot-one other problem im having is with my mute button led on my laptop is not on-i was able to fix my wifi led but i dont know where to go to fix the mute button-anybody know?05:00
cozsorry /ust/bin05:00
crimsunhericus: do you have an ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc ?05:00
cozusr bin05:00
mumanddadWhat is the future of media players in Linux... I hard beep media player was no longer being deloped?05:00
UnityColonelPanique: /var/log/pure-ftpd is empty05:00
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monwaycurrently i'm trying to package E17 for PPC folks05:01
hericusAll I've done is apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.. :/05:01
cozxmms is good05:01
PeteyPabloanyone know how to change buddy icons to a new theme in gaim?05:01
monwaybeen working on it viciously05:01
GoldfischIsn't libdvdcss in the restricted?05:01
cozyes05:01
mumanddadis xxms gonna conitnue?05:01
UnityJeeves_moss: oh i don't remember that but no, i don't know how rackmount servers work05:01
Goldfischtell hou5ton about restricted05:01
ColonelPaniqueJeeves_moss : what's the deal? i have ubuntu on two compaq proliant dl320s in my bathroom. ;-)05:01
johndarkhorsemonway: really? a ppc (ab)user are you?05:01
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hericus:\05:01
monwayxfce is ok but i tell you E17 owns all donkey balls05:01
Jeeves_mossUnity:  any ideas on who I should ask?05:01
hericus:/05:01
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Goldfisch!tell hou5ton about restricted05:01
UnityJeeves_moss: the rest of the channel?05:01
monwayi'm a ppc guy and an x86 guy05:01
johndarkhorsemonway: please respect us with your language choices05:02
monwaysure05:02
monwaywas just being blunt but sure i'll respec the lingo05:02
UnityJeeves_moss: you can maybe ask #debian too b/c ubunutu is debian derived they have a lot of similarities05:02
monway:)_05:02
cozjohndarkhorse is italian ok05:02
hou5tonGoldfisch:  all I want to do is play a DVD movie05:02
alvansonUnity, they hate that05:02
Jeeves_mossUnity:  I'm in that channel right now.  no one is talking.05:02
johndarkhorsecoz: in #ubuntu-it05:03
Unityalvanson: just don't them your actually on ubuntu?05:03
Goldfischhou5ton: You need to install libdvdcss. It is in the restricted section.05:03
cozhou5tton did  you istallall the libs ertc05:03
monwayi am working on a project for a new way to install themes on linux05:03
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alvansonhmm... novell.com is down05:03
monwaydrag and drop themes and theme script files that are hosted individually05:03
crimsunhericus: what options can you choose in the Sessions selection of gdm?05:03
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cozhou5ton you there05:03
hou5toncoz:  i did what johndarkhorse sent me ...05:03
DelvienAnyone have an idea where to get the firefox and Thunderbird  icons in http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/26448-1.jpg ??05:03
hou5tonbut didn't work still05:03
cozwhich was what05:04
hou5tonunless I'm supposed to reboot it or something05:04
monwayessentially the theme files are 2k files05:04
monwayinstead of megabytes05:04
hericusI see xfce4, xubuntu-desktop and default.05:04
cozdid you apt-get install totem-xine05:04
pipingreetings. I've just installed breezy and have been rather unsuccessfully trying to install emacs. Message I get is: Reading package lists... Done05:04
pipinBuilding dependency tree... Done05:04
pipinSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have05:04
pipinrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable05:04
pipindistribution that some required packages have not yet been created05:04
pipinor been moved out of Incoming.05:04
pipinSince you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that05:04
pipinthe package is simply not installable and a bug report against05:04
monwayif you all are curious about a good theme ..05:04
pipinthat package should be filed.05:04
pipinThe following information may help to resolve the situation:05:04
monwaythere's a page at sourceforge05:04
pipinThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:04
hou5toncoz: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh05:04
pipin  emacs21-nox: Depends: emacs21-bin-common (= 21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable05:04
pipinE: Broken packages05:04
pipin.05:04
ColonelPaniquepipin : ixnay on the oodflay!05:05
cozhou5ton did yu apt-get install totem-xine05:05
tuvisn't ntp.ubuntulinux.org NTP server working?05:05
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Unityubotu tell pipin about pastebin05:05
Goldfischpipin: Use pastebin!05:05
pipinWhat is pastebin?05:05
hou5toncoz:  just a sec ... let me check05:05
timfrost!pastebin05:05
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:05
tonyyarussotuv: Works for me.05:05
pipinMurky05:05
cozhou5ton just sudo apt-get totem-xine05:05
DelvienAnyone have an idea where to get the firefox and Thunderbird  icons in http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/26448-1.jpg ??05:06
bipolar*sigh* no dice. I cant get direct rendering to come on on Dapper install.05:06
Goldfischhou5ton: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?05:06
cozsudo apt-get install totem-xine05:06
monwayhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/gno-sx05:06
hou5toncoz:   it's already installed05:06
cozok nest05:06
TokenBadin ubuntu what should I use for ident for irc?05:06
crimsunhericus: what happens when you choose Xfce4?05:06
hou5tonGoldfisch:  I clicked on it, and it asked me if I wanted to run it ( install it) and I said yes05:06
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cozftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs05:06
sportmakidis there any basic application for firewire capture05:06
cozand download the .deb file if you already have not05:07
sportmakidjust to see if my firewire is working?05:07
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sportmakidfor ubuntu05:07
Goldfischhou5ton: In synaptic? Did you click the apply button to actually install that package?05:07
hou5tonGoldfisch:  yes05:07
ColonelPaniqueHappy new Year!05:07
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Unitywu-ftpd is'nt starting either! and with no logs!05:07
hou5tonGoldfisch:  just a sec and I'll double check again05:07
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Goldfischhou5ton: So, now synaptic shows that library is installed?05:07
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Unityare the scripts in init.d busted?05:07
cozapt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse05:08
tuvwhat do i need to do to get ubuntu live to recognize an sb16 soundcard?05:08
intelikeyColonelPanique but this year is not over yet.05:08
hou5tonGoldfisch:  it shows that libdvdread3 is installed05:08
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Goldfischhou5on: What about libdvdcss2?05:08
ColonelPaniqueintelikey : could you possibly be more ambigious?05:08
ColonelPaniqueintelikey : "this year" ?05:08
hou5tonGoldfisch:  just a sec05:08
cozhou5ton you there05:08
hou5toncoz:  yes05:09
hou5tonGoldfisch:  no such file in Synaptic05:09
mannyHello, I was looking into downloadig files like from Morpheus. Can I still do it with ubuntu?05:09
cozgreat did you install al the gstreamer0.8 plugins05:09
timfrostpipin, how did you install emacs?  From a .deb you downloaded?05:09
hou5toncoz: are those necessary for Totem05:09
johndarkhorsehou5ton: did you read the info ubotu sent you?05:09
Goldfischhou5ton: You nead to add restricted to your repositories. libdvdcss2 is a library used for decrypting DVDs.05:09
tuvhow can i scan the isa bus in ubuntu live?05:09
cozyes05:09
johndarkhorseubotu: tell hou5ton about libdvdcss05:09
Goldfischubotu tell hou5ton about restricted05:09
johndarkhorsetuv: in a terminal "sudo lshw"05:09
cozwe will get to libdvdcss05:10
mannyhow?05:10
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LinksmanJust installed Ubuntu for the first time (long-time SuSE user) and am LOVING it. Don't know why I waited so long. Happy New Year everyone!05:10
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PeteyPablocan anyone tell me where i would find share/pixmaps/gaim/status/default05:10
PeteyPablo?05:10
hou5tonjohndarkhorse:  yes ... and I think i did what it said ...05:10
intelikeytuv lshw  maybe05:10
cozhou5ton just apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse05:10
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lampshadewhats up05:11
lampshade#ubuntu05:11
ColonelPaniqueLinksman : yeah, and unlikely being pwned by Novell, you will always be able to use *all* Ubuntu releases for FREE! ;-)05:11
cozhou5ton let meknow if you do this05:11
ChrisC_Having some mouse trouble ... what's the keyboard shortcut to open the Gnome (aka "Start") menu?  I tried Alt-Esc ...05:11
intelikeyalthough lshw seems week to me, in said area.05:11
hou5toncoz: ok ... let me check on that05:11
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Goldfischhou5ton: You haven't done it until you can find libdvdcss listed on synaptic. It is in the restricted repository. Have you added that repository in synaptic?05:11
sportmakid.05:11
Johnny0Evening All05:11
cozthen check if you have msttcorefonts installed05:11
hou5tonGoldfisch:  ok ... I have added some in that config file .... but don't recall if that is one of them05:12
cozhou5ton just type it in the terminal as an install it will let you know if you have them05:12
stevenjdoes anyone use audacity here?05:12
pipinattempted to install using apt-get.05:12
ColonelPanique!anyone05:12
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>05:12
Unityi think the wu-ftpd script is bad...it doesn't print out like Starting FTPD but in the script, it says it should05:12
Goldfischcoz: He doesn't see libdvdcss listed when he searched in synaptic.05:12
LinksmanColonelPanique: I hear ya. The free aspect has a philosophical pull on me. I simply feel better using Ubuntu. If you're gonna stick it to the man, don't just switch to another man.05:12
ChrisC_Having some mouse trouble ... what's the keyboard shortcut to open the Gnome (aka "Start") menu?  I tried Ctrl-Esc and Alt-Esc ...05:12
intelikeystevenj i have.   is this a poll  or do you have a Q05:13
cozthats ok we will get o libdvdcss in amomnet05:13
timfrostpipin, what command line?05:13
stevenjintelikey, question I am uploading pic for easy explanation05:13
cozhou5ton05:13
pipintimfrost, yes?05:13
stevenjwhoa image shack slow tonight05:14
hou5tonok ... I just went to sources.list .. and I dont' see a line for "restricted"05:14
hou5tonwait .. yest I do05:14
cozhou5ton you don't have to go to synaptic to check if it is installed05:14
Unity`start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/sbin/wu-ftpd` that should work?05:14
mumanddadanyone used xmms2?05:14
tonyyarussoHow do you add an extension in the Mozilla browser if you have .xpi file?  Apparently it's different from FF's Tools > Extensions.05:14
hou5tonbackports and security05:14
timfrostpipin, what hapopens if you run "sudo apt-get install -f"?05:14
ColonelPaniqueUnity : the initscript is probably fine05:14
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stevenjintelikey, I know how make gtk1 fonts differentl; however, the interface is "messed" up in audacity - screenshot http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8dl.png05:15
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durttonyyarusso: enter the path to the file in the address bar05:15
pipintimfrost, I'll let you know back shortly05:15
xptestare you supposed to be able to play streaming audio(radio) in xmms?05:15
ColonelPaniqueUnity : your use of it without consulting any documentation whatosever, is probably not fine however.05:15
cozhou5ton do you have the gstreamer plugins05:15
Linksmantonyyarusso: just open it in Firefox. File-Open05:15
UnityColonelPanique: i read it, it said if $1 is start then echo Starting wu-ftpd... it never echoed it...05:15
cozI do this all the time for residential clients05:15
hou5toncoz ... i'm in a terminal ... give me the exact line(s) to type in please.05:15
stevenjintelikey, do you know anyway to fix this?05:15
TokenBadin ubuntu what should I use for ident for irc?05:15
mumanddadxptest you you can but05:15
Linfanhow do i install wireless assitsnat? sudo apt-get install wlassistant? is this correct05:15
cozok here it goes05:15
ColonelPaniqueUnity : you read the content of the script?05:16
tonyyarussodurt & Linksman: Thanks.05:16
EdLinhou5ton, dvdcss isn't in restricted, restricted is for binary hardware support. I'd look in multiverse, but since it's illegal it isn't there either. Don't give up hope though, check to see if you have libdvdread3 installed. If so, go to its documentation directory in /usr/share/doc,05:16
cozsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse05:16
timfrostpipin, and let me know what thew command you used was ('apt-get install ...' should install the dependencies as well )05:16
intelikeystevenj i believe that's listed in the bugs  bugzilla.com/ubuntu iirc05:16
EdLinhou5ton, and do this: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh05:16
cozhu5ton let me know when that is finished05:16
UnityColonelPanique: not carefully, just whizzed over it. i thought all the srcipts must echo something05:16
ColonelPaniqueUnity : that is not really the same as reading the fancy manual ;-)05:16
mumanddadxmms works well with the stations on streamtuner05:16
tonyyarussodurt & Linksman: How would you then view installed ones?  (Trying to help someone else, and I only know FF's setup.)05:16
mumanddadshhoutcast etc05:16
stevenjintelikey, oh so yours looks like this?05:17
Eleaf05:17
ColonelPaniqueUnity : one sec buddy...let's cheque this out05:17
intelikeystevenj no i do know a fix.05:17
Linksmantonyyarusso: quit firefox. Restart, then Tools-Extensions will show you what you've got.05:17
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hou5toncoz:  says it's already there05:17
PeteyPablois thier a better torrent client then azureus?05:17
xptesttry this url  http:/live.eonstreams.com/ccri_ca_losangeles_kfi_am.asf   from xmms and tell me if it works for you05:17
cozgreat next05:17
intelikeystevenj mine does not but i don't use ubuntu.   they promised to have that fixed in dapper tho.05:17
EdLinhou5ton, did you read my advice?05:17
cozsudo apt-get install msttcorefonts05:18
pipintimfrost, 'apt-get install emacs21-nox'05:18
bustacapPeteyPablo, have you tried bittornado05:18
bustacapit's simple05:18
PeteyPablobustacap: no is it better?05:18
hou5tonEdLin:  I know that I have libdvdread3 installed05:18
tonyyarussoLinksman, They're using the Mozilla browser, not Firefox.05:18
TokenBadI guess I use ident2 for irc?05:18
cozthe next one has no sudo05:18
KnowerrorsCan anyone help with the flashplugin-nonfree?  Synaptic says its installed, but plugins files don't show up where they say theyre installed05:18
EdLinhou5ton, so run the program then.05:18
EdLinhou5ton,  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh05:18
bustacapKnowerrors, are you using Breezy or Hoary?05:18
cozgst-register-0.805:19
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stevenjintelikey, I see..only one unrelated bug in buzilla.  hmmm05:19
hou5tonEdLin:  Ok ... i've done that ... i'll try Totem now05:19
cozand now you can do the libdvdcss05:19
Linksmantonyyarusso: Not sure about how Mozilla handles extensions. Guess I'd advise switching to Firefox.05:19
Linfani somebody guide me on how to install wireless assistant please05:19
Madpilotstevenj: check the launchpad bugtracker too05:19
Linfani chcked synaptics and is not there05:19
Knowerrorsbustacap: breezy05:19
Linfani have wi-fi radar but it doesnt have a rescan option05:19
cozsudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh05:19
intelikeyhmmm i'm sure i saw it there...... {goes to look)05:20
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Madpilotstevenj: https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu05:20
Linfanand it cannot be configured05:20
GoldfischEdLin: Ahh, I just read install-css. I guess I did it one time and never looked back. Assumed it was in one of these repositories. :)05:20
cozhou5ton let me know where you are05:20
bipolarany radeon dapper users here using the XOrg "Radeon" driver?05:20
ColonelPaniqueUnity: if you look at the wu-ftpd initscript carefully, you might arrive at the conclusion that it doesn't start in daemon mode if it is enabled vi inetd.05:20
timfrostpipn, do you have apt set up to not retrieve dependencies? because that command should have installed emacs21-bin-common emacs21-common emacs21-nox emacsen-common05:20
mediahmm05:20
mediahow can i capture video from firewire05:20
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mediai need a simple tool05:20
ColonelPaniqueUnity : and guess where it is enabled when installed as an Ubuntu package? ;-)05:20
stevenjMadpilot, thanks05:20
hou5tonEdLin or coz: do I need to do an update or reboot now?:  I still get this message after doing all that:  that i am trying to view an encrypted DVD and probably need libdvdcxx05:20
hou5toncss05:20
mediajust to test some random crap out05:21
UnityColonelPanique: i finally got it running by copy-pasting parts of the script05:21
cozhold on05:21
Goldfischhou5ton: dpkg -l | grep libdvdcss05:21
bustacapKnowerrors, try 'sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree' and then 'sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla'05:21
coz did you do the last entry05:21
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Goldfischhou5ton: Got it?05:21
PeteyPablomedia: i think it's sudo apt-get install dvgrab05:21
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UnityColonelPanique: but then what is the correct way to start it on boot? it doesn't have a man page either it seems05:21
bsimsIs there a way to get dvdrip to read the vobs that are mounted in a loopback?05:21
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ColonelPaniqueUnity : not the correct approach, to say the least.05:21
cozsudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh05:21
ColonelPaniqueUnity: man inted05:21
pipinshouldn't have. Just installed from the cd and then modified sources.list. Haven't changed anything else (that I know of)05:21
cozhou5ton did you so that05:21
hou5tonGoldfisch:  I get command not found05:22
hou5toncoz:  yes i did that05:22
hou5tonand it installed05:22
jaebirdmedia: or Kino05:22
cozok now you have to turn on dms for dvd player05:22
ITSa341hou5ton   are you the same hou5ton that used to hang out in AOL's Mac or PC room?05:22
cozdid you do that?05:22
UnityColonelPanique: i don't have that man page. will i be safe use an online version?05:22
hou5tonITSa341:  NOPE05:22
cozdma05:22
EdLinhou5ton, you almost certainly don't need to reboot. rebooting doesn't fix things in GNU/Linux unless its the kernel05:22
ColonelPaniqueUnity : wu-ftpd should accept an incoming rquest automatically as long as inted is running ... try it and see: ftp localhost05:22
cozok do this in termina05:22
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Knowerrorsbustacap: tried that already, even with the purge option05:23
odathi everyone05:23
cozsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc05:23
cozthat is ad (one) 105:23
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Linfanwhats he right command for me to download gnomedesktop:networkmanager?05:23
coznot an ell05:23
UnityColonelPanique: also, inted isn't running...05:23
CrL_hi05:23
ITSa341Hmm I have one pc on this network (windows simple network) that will not show up from here but does from all the other pc's05:23
GoldfischLinfan: sudo apt-get install network-manager <--- one way from command line05:23
UnityColonelPanique: and i don't have any binary named inted05:23
shriveranyone have any experience with MythDVD under Ubuntu?05:23
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CrL_I installed ubuntu first time. All is running fine, but I didn't get a root password. It only told me to create a normal account..05:23
ColonelPaniqueUnity : bleh.. nm.  aparently ubuntu puts it in /etc/inted.conf, but doesn't actually run an inetd by default. bugg-er-05:23
UnityColonelPanique: we are talking about linux right? i am so confused05:24
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cozhou5ton let me know05:24
mumanddad!root05:24
ubotu[root]  by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password05:24
timfrostpipn, I have no idea what went wrong.  What happened with 'apt-get install -f?'05:24
hou5toncoz:  I did this: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc05:24
hou5ton .... and it says command not found05:24
coznow you have to make dma turn on at boot05:24
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cozsudo gedit /etc/hdaprm.conf05:24
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ColonelPaniqueUnity: did you save a copy of the original wu-ftpd initiscript before editing it?05:25
ChrisC_The answer to my question was "Alt-F1", in case anyone cared :)05:25
cozhu5ton tell me when the document opens05:25
UnityColonelPanique: i don't any inted.conf...05:25
Xenguycrimsun: Hi - I filed that bug report you requested; see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/635405:25
pipinnothing at all.05:25
hou5toncoz:  it's open05:25
ColonelPaniqueUnity : /etc/inetd.conf05:25
UnityColonelPanique: and i didn't medify the script. i know better than that05:25
cozok scroll down to the last line05:25
ITSa341ClR  is this your first time with Linux or Ubuntu?05:25
cozUNDER that line put05:25
coz/dev/hdc {05:25
ITSa341CrL **05:26
UnityColonelPanique: oh ok you were just spelling it diffirintly i knew it looked fishy05:26
cozUnder that put05:26
shriverI've installed MythDVD, and I want to set the default player to Xine. Every source I've found says that there should be a 'Media Settings' option under the MythTV settings, but I have none. Where can I go to set xine as my player?05:26
cozdma = on05:26
cozUNDER that puy05:26
coz}05:26
ColonelPaniqueUnity : edit the /etc/inted.conf with sudo...comment out the line beginning with "ftp"...save /etc/inetd.conf, and wu-ftpd will start in daemon mode via /etc/init.d/wu-ftpd ;-)05:26
tbwHowdy.05:26
Goldfischshriver: You will probably get more headway on #mythtv-users05:26
cozthen hit the X in the corner and save05:26
crimsunXenguy: thanks. I don't have time right this moment to follow up.05:26
Goldfischshriver: Or is it #myth-users?05:26
intelikeyChrisC_ ok i  alt+f1  and get the tty1 console rather than this (tty2 console)  how does that answer my question ?05:26
hou5toncoz:  got it05:26
cozOK great hou5ton05:27
coznow reboot and come back online here05:27
Xenguycrimsun: no worries, just wanted to let you know :-)05:27
hou5tonk05:27
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UnityColonelPanique: daemon mode meaning it doesn't appear in ps -A?05:27
koburhello all05:27
ChrisC_In Ubuntu, my mouse is not surviving KVM switches -- works fine after system restart, but if I KVM away and back, the mouse jumps around, opens context menus, and is unusable.  Must reboot to recover. Any quick tips before I post a longer form of this question on ubuntuforums?05:27
UnityColonelPanique: because all this time i thought daemons appear in the process list05:27
desrtdoes anyone know why totem segfaults every time i play a dvd?  vlc does it too.  it seems to be some problem with the lower-level dvd playing libraries05:27
ColonelPaniqueUnity : no...daemon mode meaning it starts and runs as a standalone server, and not via inetd/xinetd...05:27
desrtto wit:05:28
desrtlibdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 2 (VTS_02_0.IFO).05:28
desrtlibdvdnav: ifoOpenVTSI failed05:28
desrtlibdvdnav: *** pgci_ut handle is NULL ***05:28
desrt[crash] 05:28
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intelikeyChrisC_ gpm maybe ?05:28
timfrostpipin, do you have universe in your sources.list?05:28
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johndarkhorsedesrt: please use a pastebin05:29
UnityColonelPanique: ok i love you it is somewhat working05:29
desrtjohndarkhorse; no thanks05:29
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koburCan anyone help me get my sound working in 5.10 AMD64 version?05:29
pipinYes I do.05:29
UnityColonelPanique: thx a lot05:29
ColonelPaniqueUnity : if you comment out the "ftp" line in /etc/inetd.conf by placing an octothorpe (#) in front of "ftp" and then save the file, and then issue: sudo /etc/init.d/wu-ftpd start, then wu-ftpd will be running...that's how mine is working fine after installing wu-ftpd packaged ;-)05:29
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ColonelPaniqueUnity : daemons sure do appear in the process lis05:29
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UnityColonelPanique: so basically comment out all ftp daemons from that line and then they will run like all other processes?05:30
ChrisC_intelikey: thanks, investigating ...05:30
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KnowerrorsNone of the files that flashplugin-nonfree is supposed to have installed are there05:30
timfrostpipin, did emacs21-nox install or not?05:30
slimanyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.05:31
ColonelPaniqueUnity: just comment the ftp line in /etc/inetd.conf which contains "wu-ftpd -l"05:31
sethkslim, are you using the ndis thing?05:31
ColonelPaniqueUnity : then excute the initscript, and wu-ftpd will be running as a standalone ftp daemon...yeesh! ;-005:31
cozhou5ton you here yet?05:31
slimnope madwifi05:31
pipinNo. I get the following message: The following packages have unmet dependencies:05:31
pipin  emacs21-nox: Depends: emacs21-bin-common (= 21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable05:31
intelikeyChrisC_ not sure it will fix it for you but it does have repeter function that "might"  help.05:32
slim(sorry not IRC smart, dont know how to talk directly to someone on this screen:))05:32
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bshumateObi Wan Kenobe called-  says he has "a bad feeling about this"05:32
PeteyPablodoes bittornado have a tray icon so i can hit x and it keeps running?05:32
gratefulwhere do i go to get video codecs?05:33
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ITSa341slim  I'm new to irc also. there is a link to a site for posting05:33
ColonelPaniqueheh heh! i know, right?!05:33
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ITSa341I got kicked for it LOL05:33
cozgrateful did what are you trying to do05:33
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ColonelPanique!tell ITSa341 about pastebin05:33
timfrostpipin, which distributiion (breezy, hoary. etc)?  Cos in breezy emacs21-bin-common ios in main.05:33
ITSa341Colonel   Tell slim, I know but was trying to help him so he didn't get the reception I did  :-)05:34
timfrostpipin, might pay for you to pastebin your sources.list05:34
ColonelPaniqueUnity : did you get it going yet mate?05:34
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ITSa341<-- learns quick....sometimes05:34
pipintimfrost, I'm using breezy. gotta go. I'll come back later (martinis waiting)05:34
intelikey<--- learns some quicktime05:35
ITSa341lol05:35
cozyou know if you guys would just low format your harddrive BEFORE you install any os you would elimate half the problems you are having here05:35
ColonelPanique<--- has a pet monkey!05:35
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intelikey^ spanks it05:35
ITSa341Colonel   he probably learns faster than me   :-)05:35
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PeteyPablodoes bittornado have a tray icon so i can hit x and it keeps running?05:36
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ITSa341Hmm I have one pc on this network (windows simple network) that will not show up from here but does from all the other pc's05:36
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cozpetypablo make one05:36
ColonelPaniqueGoldfisch : actually the /me emote is older, so <--- would be the "alternate: and /me the standard. ;-)05:37
slimand I have posted about this problem in several forumss...no luck.05:37
UnityColonelPanique: yes its working fine for now thx a lot05:37
EleafAHH05:37
ColonelPaniqueGoldfisch : and you had too many dashes in there too ;-P05:37
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ColonelPaniqueUnity : hooo-ray!05:37
UnityColonelPanique: i feel so fumb but hey, you learn something new everyday05:37
kobur     /msg nickserv set hide email on05:37
cozslim what problem05:37
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ssstormyhello, I'm in a real jam here... my system does not have an exacutable called gconf-schemas, that supposedly exits in gconf2 (which it dosn't seem to -installed gconf2 a few times already) so I cannot install a few apps, which is jamming up synaptic05:37
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UnityColonelPanique: i just wish i would learn how to type better05:38
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cozhou5ton05:38
cozwelcome back05:38
hou5toncoz and all the guys ... IT WORKS   :)05:38
ColonelPaniqueUnity : i wish i could learn to type at all after five pints~!05:38
hou5tonthanks a ton05:38
PuRoi jusg installed network manager for gnome my wireless was working before i installed it-how can i fix this problem?05:38
slimtell coz anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.05:38
cozgreat!!!05:38
PuRohow can i revert back05:38
PuRoif anything05:38
eric_I'm installing java using a terminal and on the final step it's says "requested operation requires superuser privilege"05:38
Goldfischhou5ton Good job.05:38
Kyralsudo05:38
johndarkhorseeric_: use sudo05:38
coznow watch all the starwars you want dude05:38
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hou5tonthanks for the help everyone05:39
ITSa341lol05:39
hou5tonit's appreciated05:39
cozeat spumoni it better05:39
PuRohow can i access network manager?05:39
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PeteyPablodoes bittornado have a tray icon so i can hit x and it keeps running?05:39
eric_just type sudo before I type the command?05:39
cozPeteyPablo05:39
PuRoi just did a sudo get for it and it installed05:39
intelikeyhou5ton i'll expect you to pay my ton in pounds please05:39
ITSa341eric  yes05:39
PeteyPablocoz ?05:39
Goldfischubotu tell eric_ about sudo05:39
cozgo to applications internet and drag the icon to where you want it05:39
PeteyPablocoz, no i mean like GAIM so it sits in the tray when im not using it?05:40
UnityColonelPanique: i wish i were old onugh to drink!05:40
cozoh I don't think so but someone here might have a n answer for you05:40
cozif not they just won't answer you unforntunately05:40
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ITSa341Unity   drinking isn't all it is said to be. Should have seen me this morning   LOL05:40
ColonelPaniqueUnity : stay in school! don't do drugs! you'll get there! ;-005:40
ssstormyeric_, you say "sudo blahblah"05:41
UnityColonelPanique: will do! good night05:41
cozyes practice ans soon you too will be suod experts05:41
cozsudo experts05:41
eric_ok thanks ssstormy05:41
cozdamn fingers05:41
intelikeyColonelPanique yes but where will he be when he gets there is the question05:41
Toma-also, read "man sudo"05:41
PuRosomebody please help me with network manager05:42
Madpilotis there a difference between using "man -k" vs "apropos" to search the man files?05:42
PuRomhy wireless internet is no loger working after i did the install05:42
koburAnyone know how to get a SoundBlaster Live card to work on 64 bit version?05:42
ColonelPaniqueintelikey : depends on his country of origin really.05:42
cozPuRo I am not good at networking but what is the problem05:42
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GoldfischPuRo: Are you running network-manager?05:42
pattersonhello all05:42
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PuRoi installed network manager my wireless went down after doing so05:42
Toma-Madpilot: "info thecommand"05:42
PuRoi dont know how to open it or where it is for me to open it05:42
ColonelPaniqueintelikey : dor example, in the good ol u.s. of a. he may be dead on the iraqi, (or irani) battlefield before legally old enough to drink ;-)05:43
PuRois no where on system or menus05:43
MadpilotToma-: I'm asking because running either command w/ the same search terms seems to give identical results...05:43
intelikeyi kinda hate to admit that it really is that simple ColonelPanique......05:43
GoldfischPuRo: Go to System->Preferences->Sessions05:43
PuRoim pretty sure the reason why my wireless is no longer working is because i installed network manager-before i did the install it was working ffine05:43
ColonelPaniqueintelikey : here in the bahamas...we drink at 16! ;-)05:43
Toma-Madpilot: what command?05:43
coz16 yikes05:43
GoldfischPuRo: Then click on the Startup Programs tab.05:44
slimanyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.05:44
MadpilotToma-: "man -k foo" and "apropos foo"05:44
cozbad livers at 2105:44
ColonelPaniquebut the legal age is 18!05:44
PuRoi dont see anything05:44
PuRothere05:44
Davey`in the UK we drink at 16, legal age is 19 ;)05:44
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Davey`hehe ColonelPanique :)05:44
GoldfischPuRo: Finally, add an entry reading Order 50, Command "sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &"05:44
cozbad teeth by 1705:44
ColonelPaniquecoz: fine british ale is good for the liver...it's that rotgut rum ya gotta watch out for!05:44
Toma-Madpilot: no idea :|05:44
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MadpilotToma-: but I just checked info man, and using the -k switch in man does use the same options as apropos... interesting05:44
coztrue but being italian I would say red wine is the best05:45
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GoldfischPuRo: Are you running GNOME?05:45
ITSa341according to the CDC the average age for starting to drink socially in Bay City MI is 1105:45
Toma-i see.05:45
Toma-bbl05:45
Kyralman has switches?05:45
Kyralmanswitches!05:45
PuRoyes i am ubuntu05:45
Kyralyum!05:45
ColonelPaniqueKyral : everything has switches!05:45
GoldfischPuRo: You can't get to System -> Preferences -> Sessions?05:45
ejofeeKyral: yes, it does have switches05:45
cozeven me!05:45
KyralI want a Manwitch now!05:45
intelikey       apropos - search the whatis database for strings05:45
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PuRook i did the command you told me to goldfisch05:45
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CrL`is there any working "mp3-player/mediaplayer" for ubuntu?05:45
ejofeeKyral: and the syntax is "!apt-get", not "yum!"05:45
cozeven I have switches05:45
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cozyum would be cool05:46
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GoldfischPuRo: Meaning you created the entry in Startup Programs?05:46
PuRohow do i open network manager to se ethe available networks in my area05:46
PuRoyes i did05:46
PuRoas instructed05:46
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ejofeecoz: cool for what?05:46
cozyum install anything05:46
GoldfischPuRo: That is so the next time you login, it runs automatically. Just run the same command from a terminal to run it in your current session.05:46
ssstormyanyone have any idea why I see05:46
ssstormyE: /cdrom//pool/main/g/gksu/gksu_1.3.0-1ubuntu10_i386.deb: there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up05:46
ejofeecoz: urpmi is *much* better than yum05:46
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ColonelPaniqueejofee : hee hee...manflake!05:47
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ejofeecoz: (if we have to go offtopic)05:47
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cozssstormy I don't but someone here might if not go to ubuntuforums05:47
yaaarword05:47
thierrywhat's the syntax to chown a file for normal user?05:47
cozalthough they may not be there this late05:47
Jaredi got a simple tech simple drive      it is 160 gig external drive  and ubuntu wont let me write to it......even when i'm in root.....any ides?05:47
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Jareddoes anyone have anyideas05:47
Madpilotthierry: "sudo chown user:group nameoffile"05:47
Goldfischthierry: chown <user>:<group> foo.bar <--- :<group> is optional05:47
intelikeythierry man chown05:48
PuRook i did the command on a terminal window05:48
PuRoit says stopped05:48
cozjared right click the drive and check permissions05:48
PuRoand nothing happens05:48
La_PaRCaI am in love with streamtuner05:48
cozstreamtuner rules don't forget to install streamripper05:48
Jaredcoz  i already have and it says i can't write to it is there any way to change that?05:49
GoldfischPuRo: You may have to activate your wireless card in the network manager tool. System -> Administration -> Networking05:49
yaaaranybody know much about digital audio output?05:49
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cozfirst check the boxes for writing hold on05:49
yaaari've gotten far enough that i can play 5.1 sound through the spdif when i'm playing dvd's in totem. but compressed movies from the hard drive and mp3s and whatnot are still silent...05:49
PuRook my wireless connection is active05:49
yaaarthe alsa wiki seems to tackle digital output on a kind of per-application basis....which is really inconvenient. isn't there some way to push everything that would be going out analog in as pcm on the spdif?05:49
ITSa341Does Ubuntu support hotswapping pcmcia cards?05:49
Jared....it says i can't do that coz            it says it is a read only drive05:49
PuRohow do i make a shortcut to network manager?05:49
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nomasteryoda|wITSa341, yea05:49
PuRois that the command you gave me05:49
yaaarITSa341: yes05:50
cozdamn I had this problem before and forgot how to fix it05:50
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ColonelPaniqueJared: run : mount   - does the drive's entry show "rw"  is  the drive formatted as *gasp* ntfs?! (coz ya kint be writing to ntfs from ubuntu...it is dangerous!)05:50
ITSa341nomaster yaaar   ty05:50
GoldfischPuRo: Do you see an icon on the top that looks like a pair of PCs?05:50
cozhey guys Jared has aproblem you guys hlped with beofore05:50
cozhelp him out05:50
PuRoi want to know how access the gui for network manager05:50
PuRoyeah05:50
ITSa341bbiaf.....I Hope05:50
johndarkhorsePuRo: alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin05:50
Jaredhow do i reformat it to ext???????05:50
GoldfischPuRo: Click on the status icon up on the bar that was created when nm-applet launched. That IS the GUI.05:50
Jaredi know it is ntfs...it is WINDOW       *gasp*      ready05:51
ssstormyJared, if the stuff on the drive is useless05:51
ssstormyand you don't mind loosing it05:51
GoldfischPuRo: The twin-PC icon...click on it, and you will see a Configure button.05:51
Jaredi have NOTHING on it ssstormy05:51
ssstormyJared, ok05:51
PuRoGoldfisch, i am on that screne as we speak05:51
ColonelPaniqueJared : System > Admin > Disks05:51
Jaredand i don't mind losing nothing....05:51
koburhello05:52
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ssstormydo a fdisk /dev/hd<probably "a">05:52
ssstormyor whatever your disk is05:52
ssstormy/dev/hda1 maybe if windows was installed first05:52
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ssstormyfdisk the partition that is windows05:52
Jaredi have no windows....it says its ntfs     ........so let me do this real quick05:52
ssstormydanit05:52
ColonelPaniquessstormy : giving the chap a "maybe" with fidsk...is that such a good idea? ;-)05:52
GoldfischPuRo: The status icon should be good enough for a shortcut to Networking.05:52
InfohawkIs it possible to make a persistent home with a usb drive and the the live cd?05:53
ssstormyColonelPanique, *sigh* it would help if I knew which partition was the ntfs one05:53
ssstormyJared, ok what drive is the windows partition on?05:53
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ssstormythe master? te slave?05:53
Jaredhuh?05:53
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ssstormyhow many hard disks do you have on there05:53
Jaredall i know it is ............on the external harddrive..........05:53
Jared?\05:54
Jaredit is a usb drive05:54
ssstormyoh05:54
ColonelPaniquessstormy : *groan* yes, but spouting off random devices for him to apply potentially destructve commands to is not sound advice mah man.05:54
Jaredthingy05:54
intelikeyjared not to comendeer someone elses help line but  ' sudo cfdisk /dev/hda '05:54
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ssstormyColonelPanique, it's not destructive to do "fdisk blabblah"05:54
JaredIT IS AN EXTERNAL USB DRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!105:54
ssstormyJared, do you know what device it is?05:54
intelikeyok usb     sudo cfdisk /dev/sda05:54
PuRowhat i wish to access is the gui for network manager where it lists the available networks05:54
PuRohow do i activate it?05:54
PuRoi was told thats the easiest and reliable wireless tool for ubuntu05:54
TranceRiverI'm buying a PCI card to run with mi WRT54G version 2.2 What's a good card compatibility with ubuntu?05:54
ssstormyintelikey, ubuntu has cfdisk?05:54
Jared   /media/usbdisk05:55
Jaredthat is the drive05:55
ssstormyJared, that's where it's mounted05:55
TranceRivera wireless adapter, that is.05:55
intelikeyno it's not jared05:55
ssstormynot the actual device05:55
intelikeythat is the mount point05:55
johndarkhorsepussfeller: you've been told TWO different ways05:55
GoldfischPuRo: Isn't there a status icon with two little dots on it, and a swirling status icon? Or do you have some "cell phone bars" icon being displayed?05:55
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ColonelPaniqueJared: go easy on yerself, and hit System Menu > Adminsitration > Disks ... you can format the external drive from within there.05:55
kobur#quit05:55
Jared.....how would i find  the device or what ever........it wont let me format if from there05:56
Jared    /deb/sda105:56
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ssstormyok05:56
ssstormyyou're good then05:56
eugene_Would anyone have any idea why it won't let me enter my password for sudo?05:56
ssstormycfdisk /dev/sda05:56
JaredYAY I FOUND IT.........05:56
Jaredso i do what command?05:56
ssstormyeugene_, you need to do visudo as root, and add your user into the file05:56
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ssstormyJared, cfdisk /dev/sda05:57
intelikeyumount before05:57
Jaredkk05:57
Goldfischeugene_: Actually, check if there is already some group in there, like %admin. If so, then actually, just add your user id to that group.05:57
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ssstormyGoldfisch, dosn't that file come bare, with just root in it?05:57
TranceRiverSo does anyone know about PCI adapters with compatability with ubuntu?05:57
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intelikeyya really don't want to try dirrect writing to disk/parition that is mounted.....05:58
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JaredThe number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19456.05:58
JaredThere is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,05:58
Jaredand could in certain setups cause problems with:05:58
Jared1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)05:58
Jared2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs05:58
ssstormyintelikey, you can't, as best I know.  You get an error, and the app closes05:58
Jared   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)05:58
Jaredsorry sorry sorry05:58
Goldfischssstormy: Umm....memory's a little hazy. Well, I like the group mechanism better, anyway. :)05:58
intelikeysometimes it works ok but when it don't....05:58
Jareddidn't mean to do that05:58
Jaredugh05:58
Jaredwhat does that mean ssstormy05:58
ssstormyJared, that's just info.  don't worry about it05:58
CrL`How to refresh the "Locate" command? it doesn't bring any results :p05:58
johndarkhorseJared: it means nothing with linux05:58
sampancrl`  use: sudo updatedb05:59
GoldfischCrl: sudo updatedb <--- and wait a little bit05:59
CrL`thx05:59
Jaredthen it shows command (m for help)05:59
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PuRogot dammit05:59
GoldfischPuRo: How is it coming? Do you have that icon on your status bar for network manager?05:59
PuRono i dont05:59
PuRoi have the normal05:59
intelikeyused fdisk did ya....   and me telling you cfdisk    oh well05:59
PuRonetworking05:59
CrL`Just trying ubuntu with vmware workstation and it's very nice :)05:59
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Jared...what command do i use for it...........it shows:::::: command (m for help)06:00
GoldfischPuRo: Did you run sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet & from a terminal?06:00
intelikeypress m06:00
ssstormyJared, in fdisk just type m06:00
CrL`Which irc-clients do you use? irssi?06:00
ssstormyand hit enter06:00
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ssstormyprint out the partitions06:00
ssstormythen delete the ntfs one06:00
ssstormymake a new partition06:00
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Jaredhuh?06:00
PuRoyes i did and this is what it says06:00
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ColonelPaniquemuaaahahaha06:01
PuRoPassword:06:01
PuRo[1]  768006:01
PuRo[1] +  Stopped                 sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet06:01
ssstormyJared, type "m", hit enter and find the commands for what I'm telling you06:01
ssstormyfor example06:01
ssstormyprint partitions is "p"06:01
ssstormywhich you can see if you do "m"06:01
Jaredi get it...sorry06:01
GoldfischPuRo: Oops...in that terminal, type "fg".06:01
PuRoi dfg at the end of &?06:01
PuRofg*06:01
ssstormyafter you make a new partition (which you should use default values for- just hit "eneter" at every prompt it gives you06:01
GoldfischPuRo: It frozed waiting for your sudo password.06:01
ssstormychange it's type to linux06:02
ssstormyif it's not already that06:02
ssstormywrite changes to disk and exit06:02
PuRoso where do i writte fg?06:02
GoldfischPuRo: The command was backgrounded. You need to foreground it, and answer the sudo password prompt. My bad.06:02
ColonelPaniqueGoldfisch : au contraire. it suspended waiting for his password.06:02
ssstormythen do a mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda<partition#>06:02
intelikeyhope he umounted it first06:02
CrL`is there something like "apt-get" for ubuntu?06:02
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GoldfischColonelPanique: That is exactly what I said!06:02
CrL`ah I see omfg06:02
ColonelPaniqueGoldfisch : you said "froze" and that implies a temperature change! ;-)06:03
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freelovehow do i change the look of VLC media player?06:03
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Jaredhow will i know which one is the ntfs one?06:03
PuRo sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &....where do i type in fg?06:03
tbww00t06:03
tbwSuspend to ram finally works!06:04
CrL`Well, one last question. Anyone of you ever used vmware workstation, host windows xp, guest ubuntu? I couldn't find my shared folders to drop files between the computers06:04
tonyyarussoWhat keyboard layout should I use for an IBM ThinkPad T43?  (Actually has 87 keys not counting Access IBM, vol up/down/mute, and power)06:04
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GoldfischPuRo: That was for your current terminal window. If you already killed that session, then run the command without the "&"06:04
tonyyarussotbw: What did you have to do?06:04
tbwtonyyarusso, : change scripts06:04
tbwtonyyarusso, : apparently the lid button and the power button send the same acpi event or something06:04
freelovehow do i change the look of VLC media player?06:04
GoldfischPuRo: When you typed the command in that terminal, it was backgrounded and "suspended." To foreground it and unsuspend that terminal, the command is "fg".06:04
tbwtonyyarusso, : cuz the same thing happens when either is pressed06:04
freelovehow do i skin VLC media player?06:04
intelikeyjared    fdisk -l  /dev/<blah>    in another terminal/console06:04
eugene_I went into users and groups and added myself to root group but that hasn't seemed to help. It woun't let me try and type anything for the usdo password prompt in the terminal. It only recognizes the eneter button.06:04
PuRoit says06:05
tonyyarussotbw: Do you know how to make my Fn-F12 shortcut reference a particular script?  It doesn't work to hibernate, but running a script in a terminal does.06:05
tbwtonyyarusso, : the power script looks for a file /var/lock/acipsleep06:05
PuRosudo: /usr/bin/mn-applet: command not found06:05
ColonelPaniqueeugene_ : add yerself to the *admin* group06:05
GoldfischPuRo: You fat-fingered.06:05
KnowerrorsIs there a linux program to check a file for corruption, and fix it if possible?06:05
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GoldfischPuRo: sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet06:05
tbwtonyyarusso, : what's backwards about this is: when you close the lid.... it actually runs the lid script... but when you open the lid it runs the power button script06:05
eugene_I didn't see one. is adm the same thing?06:05
tbwmakes no sense to me06:05
freeloveKnowerrors: fsck for filesystemcheck06:06
Jaredwhat would happen if i went ahead and deleated all of the partitions on it06:06
Jared?06:06
tonyyarussotbw: That's messed up.06:06
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PuRook now i see an icon that looks like a mouse06:06
yaaaranybody know why my one of my two ubuntu boxes would fail to load an nfs volume on boot when the other one does fine? their fstab lines are identical...06:06
ColonelPanique;-) !06:06
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tbwtonyyarusso, : yeah so i have the lid script touch the /var/lock/acpisleep file06:06
LordMelkorhow do i disable the audio previews06:06
tbwtonyyarusso, : and i have the powerbtn script check for it, remove it and exit if it exists06:06
LordMelkorthat are played when i click an audio file06:06
eugene_nvm found it. sorry.06:06
GoldfischPuRo: Sorry about that. The Sessions setting should work fine, though. That's what I have.06:07
tbwand it works fine, i can close my lid and it sleeps06:07
tbwand open it up and it works great06:07
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LordMelkor...anyone?06:07
ColonelPaniqueeugene_ : don't be sorry. unless you steal my cadillac!06:07
lampshadeAnyone use VNC here?  I got a question.  My screen is coming up with really really low resolution when viewwed via VNC.  it is really just too small to work on the desktop effectively, I can't even see whole windows sometimes.  Any ideas?06:07
GoldfischPuRo: You can click the icon, and see your options.06:07
eugene_um double sorry?06:07
intelikeytbw  just swap the two scripts....    mv scriptA hold ;mv scriptB scriptA ;mv hold scriptB06:07
tbwactually now that i'm thinking about it..06:07
tbwintelikey, : what?06:07
eugene_muhahah you'll never get your car back now!06:07
intelikeynoffin06:08
tbwActually.. now that I think about it... the lid script is being called when it opens06:08
LordMelkorhow do i dsable audio previews?06:08
Goldfischlampshade: Check the geometry settings of your vncserver. That is an argument, to control how much screeen space it serves up. Can't speak much about vino, thought, since I don't know it well.06:08
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tbwno maybe not06:08
tbwthe lid closed starts the x-screensaver06:08
tbwnevermind06:08
tbw;)06:08
lampshadeGoldfisch:  k, thanks for the heads up I'll check it out06:08
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intelikeyx-screensaver yuch! shivers......06:09
eugene_arghh I'm already an admin.06:09
tbwAnyone know how i set up wpa instead of wep?06:09
slimanyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.06:09
tbwintelikey, : well it locks the screen06:09
GoldfischWhat is the gnome screensaver? Since I changed my debian station to gnome-desktop, I don't seem to have any screensavers running.06:10
tonyyarussoSo if one needed to do a reinstall with minimal data loss, what would be the best way to do it?06:10
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GoldfischPuRo: How is it going?06:10
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LordMelkorhow do you disable audio previews?06:11
johndarkhorsetonyyarusso: if you move your /home to a seperate partition, you'll be lots better off06:11
intelikey reinstall with minimal data loss <--- of what ?06:11
tonyyarussojohndarkhorse, I've done that.06:11
tonyyarussojohndarkhorse, What about installed programs?06:11
Knowerrorsfreelove: looks like thats for the whole drive, I just want to check one file, is that possible?06:11
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intelikeytonyyarusso no sir.06:12
johndarkhorsetonyyarusso: this may interest you http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html06:12
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intelikeyyou reinstall them also.06:12
KieserHey all, new question:  Anybody ever net installed on an Sun Ultra10?06:12
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freeloveKnowerrors: dunno sorry06:12
johndarkhorseintelikey: read the link i posted for tonyyarusso please06:12
eugene_Yay. Thank you ColonelPanique for being an idirect help. Apprently being part of the SUDO group is what I needed.06:12
tonyyarussointelikey, So I should just dpkg -l > list.txt ahead of time.06:12
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Goldfischtonyyarusso: Trying to get a handle on what packages you have installed? dpkg --get-selections06:13
ColonelPaniqueKeiser : there's an Ubuntu SPARC?!06:13
ColonelPaniquei must have slept through its release! ;-)06:13
Goldfischtonyyarusso: That is different output than dpkg -l06:13
intelikeyyeah. make a list and use it on the reaload06:13
tonyyarussoGoldfisch, Good to know.06:13
Goldfischtonyyarusso: And of course, the reciprocal command is dpkg --set-selections!06:14
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cozdpkg -i not ell06:14
cozbut what do I know06:14
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LordMelkordoes anyone know how to disable audio previews?06:14
johndarkhorsetonyyarusso: read the link i sent ya06:14
tbwWell there's a debian sparc06:14
tbwsorta makes sense06:14
cozLordMelkor I am not sure what you mean06:14
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tonyyarussojohndarkhorse, Just did.  Sounds pretty slick.06:14
ColonelPaniqueholy crap!06:14
GoldfischGoodnight everyone. Time to go back to work tomorrow after a wonderful Xmas holiday. Yawn!!06:15
ssstormyanyone around know how to find the package with gconf-schemas?06:15
KeiserSo, anybody had any experience with the Sparc version?06:15
LordMelkorcoz: when i single click on an audio file a short 5 second preview plays06:15
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cozI see well as the doctor saud :don't single click" sorry had to say that06:16
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cozActually LordMelkor I have't had reason to stop it but if you hold on I will try06:16
PeteyPablowhats the command to copy a file on linux from one folder to another?06:16
tonyyarussoOkay then, so for a backup situation, can people help me brainstorm the main config files I've probably had to futz with?  (I've been breaking things as I learn Linux; hoping I can make a Dapper install in the spring and do things right this time.)06:16
LordMelkorsince my sound card is very primitive it can only handle one sound stream06:16
tonyyarussoPeteyPablo, cp.06:16
cozok hold on06:16
LordMelkorim arranging mp3s right now06:16
intelikeyPeteyPablo man cp06:17
PeteyPablotonyyarusso: can you give me an ex?06:17
sethkPeteyPablo, sure, take my ex, please06:17
cozLordMelkor soudn or viseo06:17
tonyyarussoNice, sethk.06:17
cozsound or video06:17
sethktonyyarusso, couldn't resist.  :)06:17
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JaredHEH06:18
tonyyarussoPeteyPablo, cp ~/thatfile.txt /home/myfriendbob/cool_stuff_from_Petey/06:18
cozLordMelkor sound or video06:18
Jaredit didn't work ssstormy06:18
ssstormyJared, what didn't work?06:18
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Jaredit still says it is a ntfs filesystem06:18
LordMelkorcoz: sound06:18
cozok hold on06:18
ssstormydid you change the type of the partition06:19
ssstormyand do mkfs.ext206:19
ssstormyand reboot?06:19
ColonelPaniqueKeiser shoot man i am damned near drunk right now!06:19
Jaredi created a new partition06:19
KeiserHehehe.06:19
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KeiserI should be.06:19
Jaredno...i did06:19
PeteyPablowhats the terminal command to unzip a .tar.gz ?06:19
Jaredtar xfvz filename06:19
ssstormytar zxvf *.tar.gz06:19
intelikeyreboot ?06:19
intelikeyreboot ?06:19
tonyyarussoPeteyPablo, Check the --help and man for tar for more stuff.06:19
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sethkintelikey, twice?06:19
sethkintelikey, twice?06:20
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intelikeythis is not MicroReBoot  this is linux !06:20
Jaredi rebooted......all i know is i used the d command then i typed the n command that created a partiton....that is all i know....what do you mean mkfs.ext206:20
freeloveCould not grab your mouse.06:20
freeloveA malicious client may be eavesdropping06:20
freeloveon your session.06:20
ssstormyJared, you must do06:21
johndarkhorsefreelove: please don't paste06:21
freeloveCould not grab your mouse.06:21
freeloveA malicious client may be eavesdropping06:21
freeloveon your session.06:21
Jaredhow...exactly?06:21
ssstormymkfs.ext2 /dev/sda<letter>06:21
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ssstormyI mean06:21
ssstormy<number>06:21
freelovesorry but is that serious?06:21
ssstormyif the partition was #1 then it's sda106:21
Jaredwhile i am in the fdisk? or in a new terminal06:21
johndarkhorsefreelove: repeat pasting is not acceptable (once is accidental)06:21
garrya p to see the partitioins will tell you the number for your new partition.06:22
slimanyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.06:22
ssstormyJared, while in a terminal06:22
ssstormyfdisk only takes 1 letter commands06:22
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christian_Anyone awake?06:22
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garryzzz06:22
slimanyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.06:22
JnxGarry, why can't I access my NTFS HDD's from my Linux?06:22
cozLordmalkor when the window opens to view the sound files go to the edit prefernces ther should be a tick box to preview files06:22
lampshadeGoldfisch:  Perfect answer on the geometry that's exactly what I was looking for06:23
tonyyarussoBarely christian_, going to bed soon.06:23
Jaredyay thankyoiu06:23
JnxWhy can't I access my NTFS HDD's from my Linux?06:23
tonyyarussoSorry, Jnx that would be.06:23
freelovejohndarkhorse: that was accidenttal...twice:) sorr06:23
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Jaredbecuz ntfs is retarted...06:23
intelikey!tell jnx about ntfs06:23
garryJnx. It might be because you don't have permissions to do so in fstab. Lemme look for a line and send you what you'll need.06:23
tonyyarussoJnx: What have you tried?06:23
johndarkhorsefreelove: some of the ops ban on paste <wink>06:23
lampshadeyou should be able to read fine  but writing is harder06:23
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LordMelkorcoz: k thx06:23
JnxI've fixed fstab. dough :P06:24
Jnxhehe06:24
PeteyPablomake: don't know how to make all. Stop06:24
PeteyPablo what does that mean?06:24
Jaredubuntu beats the shit out of winblows.....06:24
Jnxtonyyarusso, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       006:24
tonyyarussofreelove: There was one time I tried to pm a file's contents all at once, but the carriage returns behaved funny like that, so it pmd one line, and pasted the entire rest of the file.  Ops were not pleased.06:24
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Jnxtonyyarusso, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       006:24
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freelovetonyyarusso: :D06:25
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intelikeyjnx if you "fixed fstab"  then tell us the rest of the joke.   ok why can you not access your ntfs from linux ?06:25
JnxI've got that in my /etc/fstab06:25
tonyyarussoJnx, What's nls?06:25
Jnxutf806:25
JaredYAY I CAN FINNALLY WRITE!!!!06:25
freelovei downloaded vlc skins in vlt format....how to install them?06:25
tonyyarussoJnx, No, what's it mean?06:26
KyralVLC has skins?06:26
Jarednow...how do i give my non root account permission to write to it?06:26
JnxMeaning only root can acess it. I think :P06:26
Jrex-LinuxMy "Ttotem" wont play any thing, it says I need plugins or something.....06:26
garryJnx Ok, here is mine for my ntfs sata drive. You'll need to change the device name. The part you need to add is the user mask part the option with that equal sign. /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       006:26
Jnxaccess *06:26
tonyyarussoJnx, I have /dev/sda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults        0       0 for mine.06:26
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mbluntmanhello06:27
Jnxtonyyarusso, I can give that a shot. :) Give me a sec, need to fixx fstab.06:27
Jrex-LinuxHow do I upgrade to firefox 1.5?06:27
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Jaredssstormy how do i get it to let my non root account write on my hdd without sudo?06:27
mbluntmananyone else ever try compiling Miracl on an amd64 kubuntu machine?06:27
ssstormyJared, can't do it06:27
tonyyarusso!tell Jrex-Linux about firefox1506:27
ssstormyJared, although you can use a root terminal06:28
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Jrex-Linuxoh, ty06:28
intelikeyro  and  umask ???   setting umask=2  yealds permission of  5 = read only    read+ exec+  to be more exact.06:28
Jared.....you can't do it?....that really sucks06:28
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eugene_Hey how can I watch video files on the internet using firefox? is that even possible?06:28
ssstormyJared, if you right click on the applications menu, and edit menus06:28
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tonyyarussoeugene_, Yes, with mplayer plugins.06:28
ssstormyyou can enable in t esystem section, the root terminal06:28
garryJnx need to probably replace defaults with ro,umask=0722, noauto or auto if you want it to mount automatically at boot time. You should also be able to access ntfs via System/Administration/Disks06:29
intelikeyjared lets see the line in /etc/fstab that mounts the partition in question06:29
ssstormyJared, see the thing is, if someone hijacks the computer through the account you're using, you don't want them to be able to mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1, cause you'd be dead06:29
eugene_well how do I get those? The firefox site says quicktime, realplayer and windows player plugins all aren't available for linux06:29
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ssstormyintelikey, odds are there is no fstab entry06:29
koburHow do I get the 64bit version 5.10 to recognize a SB Live card?  Right now it says my sound card is CA0106.06:29
cozeugene what are you trying to do06:29
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ssstormyintelikey, it's mounting in /media/ so it's probably the automounter06:29
Jareddude....i don't care........06:29
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eugene_I just wanna use a site life ifilm06:29
eugene_er like06:29
[nige] hey all06:30
Jaredi wont be doing anything on it MAJOR06:30
[nige] :)06:30
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[nige] happy new year tooo :)06:30
intelikeyssstormy oh yeah and may be usb also....06:30
cozeugene I use apple movie trailers and you need th emplayer plugin for firefox06:30
tonyyarussoeugene_, Yeah, whatever.  We don't need those plugins.06:30
freelovewho says linux apps dont freeze? vlc has freezed and wont respond!06:30
cozmplaye06:30
PeteyPablowhats the command to delete something in terminal?06:30
cozmplayer eugene my typing is bad06:30
eugene_ok do I get that with synaptic?06:30
intelikeyssstormy but he could add a line in fstab and fix it that way.06:30
tonyyarussoeugene_, apt-get install mplayer-386 (or something appropriate for your system) first.06:30
eugene_k06:30
cozno the best way is through automatix but some pwople hate it06:30
tbwfreelove: it's not that they don't freeze, it's more like "less likely that you machine will become unuseable because of said freeze'06:30
mbluntmananyone able to help with my problem?06:31
ssstormyintelikey, of course, he can add a line but he can't show you one, and that won't fix the drive being ntfs06:31
La_PaRCambluntman, restate, please06:31
Jrex-LinuxMy "Ttotem" wont play any thing, it says I need plugins or something.....06:31
KyralJrex-Linux: sudo apt-get install totem-xine06:32
mbluntmanim tryin to compile Miracl on my amd64 machine?06:32
tonyyarussoeugene_, Then make sure you have the various codecs that you'll need.  To be honest with you I did apt-get install gstreamer0.8*, but that's overkill.06:32
Jrex-Linux*totem06:32
cozJrex-linus you have to install libs andplugins06:32
La_PaRCaubotu tell Jrex-Linux about RestrictedFormats06:32
cozdo you need walkthough06:32
intelikeyssstormy ntfs ?   jared ?06:32
sethkssstormy, well, if the drive is ntfs, "fixing" it will erase everything on it.  :)06:32
mbluntmanLa_PaRCa any ideas?06:32
Jnxgarry, 1 sec.06:32
tonyyarussoeugene_, Then apt-get install mozilla-mplayer.06:32
intelikeysethk yeah06:32
Jrex-Linuxlibs andplugins?06:32
La_PaRCambluntman, what is miracl and what problem are you getting?06:32
cozJrex-Linux do you need walkthrough06:32
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mbluntmanmiracl is a compiler06:32
Jrex-Linuxyes06:32
eugene_e: couldn't find package mplayer-38606:33
mbluntmani need it to compile one damn file06:33
eugene_oh ok06:33
cozok get ready with your terminal06:33
Jrex-Linuxarg06:33
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intelikeyi had an ntfs partition but i fixed it.06:33
Jrex-LinuxI hate that thing06:33
garrysame here, I could not find mplayer anything at all.06:33
sethkmbluntman, what problem are you getting06:33
cozwell first go to firefox and type the address06:33
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sethkmbluntman, if it is really just one file you can compile it by hand06:33
garryand I  had all repositories enabled06:33
tonyyarussoeugene_, It's in multiverse.06:33
mbluntmanthe install for the thing has specific instructions, that at my level of linux knowledge i dont understand06:33
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Jrex-Linuxcan you tell me in pm, coz ?06:33
cozftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/w/w32codecs06:33
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mbluntmansome crap about headers06:34
Jrex-Linuxthis is quite alot06:34
cozpm?06:34
Jrex-Linuxof convos06:34
Jrex-LinuxPrivate message06:34
cozhold on I never used it before06:34
tonyyarussoeugene_, I had to delete the Totem symlinks from the Firefox plugins directory, and then create new ones to the mozilla/plugins one because I installed FF1.5.06:34
intelikeycoz  pm == /msg blah06:34
mbluntmansethk06:34
mbluntmancan i pm?06:34
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sethkmbluntman, sure06:35
cozgot me on that06:35
garryby using /say username06:35
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La_PaRCambluntman, you need to download the miracle library and put it where your headers are06:35
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cozpm == /msg to whom it may concern?06:35
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Jaredhow do i sudo remove stuff it its a directory06:35
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eobanbrm -rf06:35
meokay06:35
Jnxgarry, I don't have to be logged in as root to access my harddrives now right?06:35
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tonyyarussoeugene_, Find the package yet?06:36
Marc_On_VacationDoes anyone know how to install Counter Strike Source via Cedega?06:36
Marc_On_VacationI've tried all of the different .exe's and i get an error06:37
cozjrexlinus you still here06:37
Jrex-Linuxyes06:37
cozsorry about the dcc06:37
cozyou still want to try this06:37
Jrex-LinuxI am scared, so many convus, I can't keep up!06:37
garryJnx yes, unless you put in thise parameters I sent to you into the /etc/fstab file. You can also do it via /system/administration/disks and it will ask you for your user password and sudo you into that area.06:37
eugene_I got gsteamer06:37
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eugene_not mplayer yet06:37
cozok how do I dcc here again06:37
Jrex-Linux*convos06:37
intelikey /msg nick message06:37
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Jrex-LinuxJust forget it, coz06:38
Jrex-LinuxI found someone else to ask06:38
garryJnx to change your /etc/fstab you need to get into a terminal and do sudo gedit /etc/fstab06:38
cozI can go slow06:38
cozok06:38
Crazy_Mandoes one still have to pay for Cedega?06:38
cozOk guys I cannot do dcc please help me out06:38
Marc_On_VacationDoes anyone know how to bypass the "could not execute the external program msiexec.exe" ?06:38
Marc_On_VacationCrazy_man, Yes06:38
tonyyarussoeugene_, Do you know how to enable multiverse and universe repositories?06:38
Crazy_ManThat's a bit off IMHO....06:38
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eugene_I think I've already done so. I think.06:39
cozIf I want private chat with someon how do I do tha06:39
intelikeycoz what client you using ?06:39
cozxchat06:39
Crazy_Manright-click -> open dialog window06:39
Jrex-LinuxI thought ubuntu was for "human beings"06:39
Jrex-Linuxit aperently needs rocket scientists06:39
intelikeyright click their nick and select06:39
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Jrex-LinuxI HATE TERMINAL06:40
Crazy_ManJrex-Linux: ?06:40
garryI read that you can get something called the CVS branch and get the cedega source, but you won't get updates, and I have never tried it. The only game I wanted to play via Cedega is not compatible with it.06:40
Jrex-LinuxDIE!06:40
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tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, No, no, I can do rocket science.06:40
[nige] how do I add folders to a new hdd06:40
[nige] ?06:40
Jrex-Linuxhehe06:40
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Crazy_ManJrex-Linux, what's wrong with a little CLI now and again?06:40
[nige] I have edited my Fstab, and created the folders, I have other folders on this hdd as well but i want to create a new mount point06:40
Jrex-LinuxMas caiotic confusion06:40
Jrex-Linux*mass06:40
[nige] how do I do that?06:40
Marc_DJrex-Linux, it's hard to learn at first - but it gets MUCH easier after you give it a shot. I'm 15 and I've gotten good with it :)06:40
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intelikeywhat is a folder ?06:40
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tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, Careful about telling things to die.  Might cause problems if they did.06:41
[nige] I have already run makefs06:41
Crazy_Manif you use Linux, it's kind've a staple to begin with06:41
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Jared......how do i sudo rename stuff?06:41
cozmy name is registered06:41
[nige] and I fear if i do that again i am going to wipe the drive like I did previous06:41
atillahi guys is there any alternative easy way to install radeon xpress drivers06:41
johndarkhorseJared: you shouldnt06:41
tonyyarussoJared, sudo mv.06:41
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Crazy_Mansudo mv <old> <new>06:41
Marc_DJust learn, when people tell you to type "sudo -i dpkg XXX.bin" Ask why they told you to do it.  Relise what sudo means, etc06:41
Jaredwhy shouldn't you johndarkhorse06:41
Marc_DDoes anyone here know how to bypass the "Could not execute the external program msiexec.exe"  when installing Counter Strike Source?06:41
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johndarkhorseJared: cuz the system knows the names of all it's things, if you change the names, you break functionality06:42
varsendaggerhey how do you mount a usb drive?06:42
tonyyarussovarsendagger, Mine do automatically.06:42
johndarkhorseJared: if the file belongs to you, you don't need sudo to rename it06:42
Jaredit don't belong to me06:42
varsendaggertonyyarusso, do you know how to do it in the cli?06:42
garry[nige] , all ye need to do is create a new directory usually off of /mnt and then add/edit the line in /etc/fstab via sudo gedit /ect/fstab06:42
intelikeyjared if you just want to change the name of a file or dir in your home use mv file new.name06:42
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asterickevening.06:43
Marc_Dhelp :(06:43
timfrostMArc_D, what are you trying to do?06:43
eugene_to enable multiverse do I have to do anything beyone checking all the normally disabled repositories?06:43
Marc_DDoes anyone here know how to bypass the "Could not execute the external program msiexec.exe"  when installing Counter Strike Source?06:44
tonyyarussovarsendagger, Let me think.06:44
Marc_DI'm trying to do that, lol! :(06:44
varsendaggertonyyarusso, nevermind06:44
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tonyyarussoeugene_, If part of what you're checking says "Universe" and "Multiverse", then no.06:44
Coaghello chum diddily ums!06:44
intelikeyjared prepend sudo if you don't own it.     be advised it you monkey with /use* /*bin*  /var* or /etc*  you will probably be in for a reload06:44
Coag:-P06:44
Marc_Dtimfrost, any ideas?06:44
Jrex-LinuxUbuntu isn't for human beings, I am a human and I don't get any of this console/package/mounting/everything else crap, I'm gonna sue for false advertising06:44
[nige] garry, I have the folders06:45
CoagJrex-Linux: you haven't given it the time of day06:45
Crazy_ManJrex-Linux, you have to be willing to learn first and foremost06:45
durtmarc_d: i think that means you need internet explorer installed. i dont know06:45
slimanyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.06:45
[nige] garry, and i have edited the fstab, but when I try and access the folders it points to the same place :S06:45
CoagJrex-Linux: you do one thing wrong and you freak out06:45
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Jrex-LinuxEEEK Coag is here06:45
timfrostMarc_D, is it a windows game?06:45
Jrex-Linuxyou like stalking me?06:45
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Marc_DYes06:45
CoagJrex-Linux: I am often here06:45
Marc_DI have Cedega though. :(06:45
Jrex-Linuxoh06:46
Jrex-LinuxWell06:46
Marc_DAnd it says clearly on the cedega forums that it's suported06:46
Jrex-Linuxum06:46
Kr0ntabsup peoples06:46
CoagJrex-Linux: --> ulm06:46
eugene_bah06:46
the_padawanhas anyone here experience with 64bit ubuntu?06:46
timfrostMarc_D, then I presme that thwe installer needs to run under wine.  I don't run wine, so somebody else needs to pick up the pieces:(06:46
garry[nige]   sounds like you have to unmount the disk. When I had that happen last night, I had to do sudo umount /dev/devname# where # is the mounted partition.06:46
Jrex-LinuxLinux is scary, but at least I haven't given up as easily as the other 7distros I tried06:46
Marc_DDoh :(06:47
Marc_Dlol, thanks for the help Tim06:47
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tonyyarussoReopening an earlier question: Does anyone know of a trick for opening the modem connection through the sound card that doesn't involve opening up the machine?  For instance, a script that would allow me to check whether there is a dial tone or previous connection/conversation on the phone line before dialing up.06:47
Crazy_ManJrex-Linux, why won't you just give it a bleedin' chance?06:47
Crazy_ManI know it's tough at first06:47
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[nige] garry, i will try remounting the disk06:47
[nige] brb06:47
Kr0ntabslim, whats the deal with yer wireless?06:47
CoagCrazy_Man: I'm about to lecture him :)06:48
Kr0ntabslide, what type of wireless config are you running?06:48
tonyyarussoWhat's up eugene_?06:48
Kr0ntaboops06:48
slimkrontab, everytime I reboot, I have to manually restart networking to get internet connectivity..06:48
Marc_DJrex-Linux, I learned linux by sitting down and just asking a friend to walk me through it.  It took one hour and i'm MUCH happier for it.06:48
Kr0ntabnot slide .. slim06:48
Jrex-LinuxI'm trying!06:48
Crazy_ManCoag: oh ok06:48
garry[nige]   you will need to umount and then mount to get it to move.06:48
Kr0ntabslim, what type of wireless config are you running?06:48
slimok how do you do that crazy red letter stuff06:48
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Marc_DJrex linux, do you have YAhoo/Msn/AIM?06:48
Jrex-Linux:( lectures06:48
tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, I took a lot more than an hour, but I did it without the friend.06:48
garry[nige] , or even reboot incase umount is confused by the changed line in fstab.06:49
Kr0ntabslide, you client is configed to auto highlight anything with yer nick06:49
tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, Google, and this channel.06:49
Crazy_ManJrex-Linux, just out of curiousity, why have you switched to Linux?06:49
Kr0ntaback06:49
tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, Oh, and breaking things.06:49
[nige] well when I rebooted it06:49
Kr0ntabslim, you client is configed to auto highlight anything with yer nick06:49
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[nige] it didnt fix it either06:49
intelikeytonyyarusso you mean something like (theory1) cat /dev/dsp56k > /dev/dsp    or something that just turns the speaker on....06:49
Marc_DYea, Jrex, what do you need linux for?06:49
Murrlingood evening06:49
[nige] i am about to check it now06:49
Kr0ntabgetting trigger happy with the autocomplete06:49
the_padawanquestion: has anyone been able to play videos and midi files in 64bit ubuntu? last time i tried i gave up.06:49
Jrex-LinuxI need it for my half-life2 garry's mod server06:49
slimkrontab, I am running WEP right now,06:49
Jrex-Linuxand I need to learn linux06:49
garry[nige] , er send me the line in your fstab.06:49
Jrex-Linuxfor myself06:49
eugene_Well I seach in synaptic showed no signes of mplayer. The command might be wrong or I need to start manually adding respoitories.06:49
MurrlinI'm sure this is distro related and not desktop manager related: what program will show me my hardware info?06:49
Marc_DJust have someone do it for you if that's all you need.06:49
garryJrex-Linux nods.06:50
tonyyarussointelikey, Well, I have no idea what the bit you said does, but basically I want to be able to hear with the speaker whatever is happening on the line.  Like when you just pick up a phone off the hook.06:50
eugene_man I should slow down with the typing.06:50
CoagMarc_D: what a horrible thing to say06:50
[nige] garry,  its seems okay now06:50
tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, We'll be happy to help however we can.06:50
Jrex-Linuxoh goodie06:50
garry[nige]   oh good. Congrats!06:50
[nige] thanks :)06:50
[nige] its just the mounting :S06:50
tonyyarussoeugene_, All right, add repos isn't so bad.06:50
MurrlinI used to have one for kde/suse but I'm not sure what ubuntu's equivalent is06:50
Marc_DCoag, I'm sorry - But Im' being honest. If he doesnt plan to use it on a regular basis he really dosent need to know the ins and outs of linux06:50
intelikeyyes tonyyarusso hmmm let me play with it for a bit and get back to you06:50
Murrlin(for gnome)06:51
tonyyarusso!tell eugene_ about easysource06:51
Kr0ntabslim, whats the issue?06:51
tonyyarussointelikey, Okay.06:51
Jrex-Linuxhmmm06:51
[nige] garry, in case your intrested: http://pastebin.com/48680806:51
asterick... grrbl.  For some reason, the live-cd I made for 5.10 isn't booting, and 5.6 doesn't support dmraid.  This is frusterating.  And since it's a live CD, I'm wary about loading GCC.06:51
slimkrontab, I have to manually restart networking (sudo invoke rc.d networking restart)  to get outside connectivity after a reboot. other than that it works great06:51
CoagMarc_D: life is composed of the experiences within, it's possible to just have someone else do things for you for everything, but then what do you learn?06:51
asterickbrb06:52
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Jrex-Linuxso my biggest problems: geting totem to do anything (it just wont play any sons or videos, I need plugins in says) and upgrading to firefox 1.506:52
Jrex-Linux*songs06:52
Kr0ntabslim, so... you do have an IP address... but have you also checked yer routing table?06:52
wizardjames!firefox1506:52
ubotufirefox15 is, like, see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org06:52
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eugene_!easysource06:53
ubotueasysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:53
Marc_DCoag, I guess you've got a point.  I'll resign to say that If I was in his position, I wouldnt learn it just for a server that I'd only interface with for certian things - But I'm not, I'm in tech suport and taking a ton of Techie classes so I need linux (And linux is just more fun)06:53
tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, What format songs/videos?06:53
Jrex-Linuxum06:53
Jrex-Linuxmp306:53
tonyyarusso!tell Jrex-Linux about restrictedformats06:53
slimI do have an ip address..I can ping the router, cant ping or traceroute beyone the router til I restart networking..and no I havent checked the routing table...dont know how to be honest :)06:53
wizardjames!tell Jrex-Linux about firefox1506:53
Kr0ntabslim, on a reboot... I would issue the following commands to provide more info for us:   ifconfig   and route -n06:53
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CoagMarc_D: I agree linux is just more fun :)06:53
garryI'm concerned about the last three lines in that fstab. a device partition should only be referred to once in an fstab, and not multiple mount points. Ye will need to choose which one you want to keep.06:54
Jrex-Linux*sigh, pointing me to a really long wiki page with lots off terminal commands?06:54
slimyou going to be around for a few moments for me to do that krontab?06:54
wizardjamesits not all that hard06:54
wizardjamesinfact its really easy06:54
CoagJrex-Linux: ulm now06:54
tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, They're not too bad.06:54
Marc_DCoag, <3 the agreements in the middle of disagreements (you see what I did there, <3 is a heart :P )06:54
Marc_Dlol06:54
wizardjamesits copy and paste petty much06:54
Kr0ntabslim, suuure.06:54
slimbrb06:54
Jrex-Linux*goes back to ulm to be yelled at by Coag*06:54
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tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, The Wiki saves us some breathe; ask about the parts you don't understand.06:54
CoagMarc_D: :P06:54
Marc_DCoag, no chance you play Counterstrike Source, is there? I need someone to walk me through the install06:55
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Coagi do actually06:55
pablo928Awhile ago I reformatted my hdd and reloaded breezy. When I was going to reinstall my cd burning app I realized I couldn't recall the name of it. It's the one which has the graphical penguin. Can anyone help?06:55
Coagdo you mean the srcds install?06:55
Jrex-LinuxI am sorry guys for coomplaining so much, and I am very greatful for your help.06:55
wizardjamesJrex-Linux,  if u need any 1:1 help, i can help you06:56
Marc_DCoag, can we speak in a private room, it's hard to read here.06:56
tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, Same here.06:56
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CoagMarc_D: sure thing06:56
Kr0ntabpablo928, prolly k3b?06:56
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Kr0ntabpablo928, give that a try06:56
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tonyyarussoJrex-Linux, btw, coming from Windows, the terminal concept kind of worried me too, but I've since gone the "Sweet, I can do that?!?" route with it.06:56
Jaredwhere do i get the libcssdvd06:56
pablo928Kr0ntab; no it's not that one06:56
garry[nige]   a partitions should only appear once in an fstab and have only one mount point. Also each drive should have it's own unique mount point, but this last isn't an issue in your fstab that I noticed.06:56
Kr0ntabpablo928, bummer.06:57
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Kr0ntabhehe06:57
Jrex-Linuxhehe06:57
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Marc_Dcoag, I have a Dialoug window open.06:57
tonyyarussoJared, The VLC site has a repo.06:57
Jaredhuh?06:57
tonyyarussoJared: Hold on...06:57
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Crazy_ManJared, PLF repos06:57
pablo928Kr0ntabd-what's worse is that i,ve been using it for about a year and now can't remember the name06:58
Kr0ntabJared, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh06:58
tonyyarussoJared: Crazy_Man's idea works too.06:58
eugene_hmmm every time I try to gedit the sources list through the terminal it makes up a new file and has it starting from ym account folder... hmmm06:58
timfrostpablo928, was it a gnome or KDE app, or somethnmg generic like xcdroast?06:58
Crazy_ManJared: then you can just get it from Synaptic/aptitude06:58
tonyyarussoeugene_, It's at /etc/apt/sources.list06:58
tonyyarussoJared, See http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html06:59
Jaredkrontab's idea works better though...thanks anyway06:59
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pablo928timfrost- i believe it was a generic app, definitely not kde06:59
[nige] garry, so is there a problem with it on the /dev/hdb1 ?06:59
Marc_DCoag, can you see the dialoug window?06:59
[nige] garry, should the hdb1 only appear once then06:59
Coagi can't see text from you, know06:59
garry[nige]   yes. and yes.06:59
Marc_DHm06:59
CoagMarc_D: join #coag06:59
tonyyarussoIs there more stuff like that for restricted stuff, Kr0ntab?07:00
[nige] garry, so how do i define multiple mount points on 1 drive?07:00
Kr0ntabtonyyarusso, eh... thats the only one I know of... like that anyway....   :-P07:00
timfrostpablo928, gnomebaker seems to be the gnome tool. xcdroast is generic.  And cdrecord is the CLI program07:01
Kr0ntabI just add restricted, universe, and multiverse in all my ubuntu sources.   anything else I can't get... I compile... or find a stand alone .deb07:01
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Jrex-LinuxI don't know how you guys can concentrate on anything in this channel, so busy and all. Thank you so much for helping me.  I must go now. Bye.07:01
timfrostKr0ntab, don't forget main for all repositories07:01
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Kr0ntabthose are there by default... hehe...07:02
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Kr0ntabcourse07:02
cdubanyone got a quick moment07:02
johndarkhorseKr0ntab: using debian debs may break your machine07:02
garry[nige] , you don't. I am not sure how to do it best, but I would probably create links to the folders, so you can get at the directories quicly. On second thought, let me see if I know what I am talking about.07:02
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cdubi need some assistance07:02
TranceRiverI'm buying a PCI wireless adapter to run with my WRT54G version 2.2 linksys router. What's a good card that has full compatibility with ubuntu?07:02
Kr0ntab dont use debian .deb's  ... stand alone ubuntu debs... if absolutely necessary....07:02
johndarkhorsecdub: ask the channel, dont ask to ask07:03
nekostarwhen unrarring something i got a wierd error....07:03
Kr0ntabI only have about 3 of those...  everything eslse obscure... compile.07:03
nekostarsaid something about it had a utime error.. any clue what that means plz?07:03
pablo928timfrost- went and searched the forums, the app I was looking for is Graveman07:03
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cdubwhat07:03
TranceRiverI've read on some newegg reviews, and some say to be incompatible with ubuntu.07:03
PuRohey gold if your here thanks alot07:03
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tonyyarusso!tell cdub about ask07:03
PuRofor the help earlier07:03
[nige] garry, okay :)07:03
PuRoi finally got it to work07:03
Kr0ntabTranceRiver, for a laptop?07:04
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell TranceRiver about wireless07:04
garryHello folks. A user is asking me about mounting the same partition to multiple mount points cache, pictures, video for example. I think that a partition should only be referred to once in fstab and use links instead. Am I correct?07:04
timfrostKr0ntab, I have seen a problem cased by a person *removing* main and restricted from the breezy repository.  Caused him lots of problems07:04
slimkrontab Im back when you are ready.07:04
TranceRiverCurrently for a desktop.07:04
PuRoif i understand correctly if i install wine-i can use photoshop on my linux laptop am i correct? is there type of issues with the software07:04
riza_hi07:04
garrythe links so he can access the particulary folders he needs to get at after mounting.07:05
Kr0ntabhehehe... yeah.  Or better yet... adding debian sources to apt.  that just about hoses everything...07:05
timfrostpablo928, not one I use.  have you located it in a repository?07:05
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Kr0ntab"oh lookie.... a whoel crapload of upgradeable packages.."07:05
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TranceRiverjohndarkhorse, thanks. I'll take a look.07:06
slimkrontab what info did you need from those commands? I have an idea now what the problem may be though.07:06
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tonyyarussoKr0ntab, Yep, did that one once.07:06
Kr0ntabslim, well... for one.. you need to make sure you have one entry for a default gateway....07:06
TranceRiverAre basically all wireless adapter cards the same? In the sense of speed and whatnot? Also, do you think that USB has any advantages over PCI? Or are they the same.07:06
TranceRiverIt will be for a desktop computer.07:07
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garry[nige]  hmm, no reply. I guess if this scheme doesn't cause the system to try to multiply unmount the same partition or cause locking between the three mounts, than if it's working I guess ye might as well leave it as is.07:07
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[nige] garry, cheers for that07:07
Jaredi can't tell much difference TranceRiver07:07
[nige] :)07:07
[nige] garry,  I will look into it a little more too07:07
[nige] :)07:07
slimkrontab, I think that might be what the problem is? cause when I first run ifconfig, I have an eth0 and ath0 entry..when I restart networking I only have ath0 (plus loopback of course)07:07
Jaredcause i have set up ones in pci and they are just as effective as usb....usb is a bit easier to manage and setup to me07:08
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Kr0ntabath0  .. yer using madwifi drivers?07:08
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slimyes07:08
Kr0ntabatheros chipset07:08
slimyup07:08
Kr0ntabwhich is yer good interface?07:08
slimath0 right now07:08
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slimno cable in my ethernet port at the moment :)07:08
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Kr0ntabyou using dhcp or static?07:09
slimstatic07:09
garry[nige]  yep, good idea. Might try posting the fstab and ask in alt.os.linux.ubuntu I stay away from alt.os.linux myself, people flame newbies there and tend to get really talk mean. Silly of them, but such is life when some folke like to do internet road rage.07:09
Kr0ntabahh.. ok.07:09
Kr0ntabwell... what config do you have in yer /etc/network/interfaces ?07:10
slimyou want me to paste it here?07:10
timfrostslim, use pastebin07:10
Kr0ntabyou can PM me... so you dont flood the channel07:10
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slimpastebin?07:11
slimok kron07:11
garryAnyone see anything wrong with this fstab? Please? Its not mine, and I'd hate to see something go boom. http://pastebin.com/48680807:11
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[nige] garry, I know what you mean07:11
Kr0ntabunless everyone else wants him to paste.  not sure if thats good etiquette to solve issues in background.07:11
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mmhsscan u install/play cs:s on ubuntu?07:11
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Jaredmy computer still wont read dvds07:12
Jaredwtcrap?07:12
garryHe had already pasted it beforehand.07:12
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Kr0ntabpastebin.... thats friggin cool.   hmmm...07:12
Dashivapastebin?07:12
intelikeyanyone else run a "no suid" system ?07:12
timfrostgarry, 3 entries for /dev/hdb1????07:12
garryI do agree, having to deal with says in background is painful.07:12
mmhssis it possible to play cs:s under ubuntu?07:13
Dashivaslowly07:13
Dashivayou can finangle it with wine but it's kind of a pain07:13
mmhss:|07:13
Dashivamight be able to use the dx7 renderer to get decent speed07:14
garryTimfrost, I can't read the third letter in your name is it m or n? I too am concerned about three entries for the same partition.07:14
Dashivaguarantee there's a faq on google somwhere07:14
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Kr0ntabslim, go to www.pastebin.com07:14
slimyikes I am an unregistered user so I cant pm :(07:14
slimpastebin it is07:14
viscountI just added breezy backports, are there any packages in there worth installing? I didn `apt-get dselect-upgrade` but nothing much really happened, just a few minor apps.07:14
_smd_Has antonw had problems with previewing( ie watching part of it) a movie in gtk-gnutella before it is down downloading and the rest not downloading ever?07:14
Kr0ntabslide, paste in yer results... and paste the resulting url...07:15
Kr0ntaboops07:15
Kr0ntabnot slide...07:15
slimhttp://pastebin.com/48682607:15
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durtgarry: what is that device, /dev/hdb? another hard drive?07:15
Kr0ntabdamnit... sorry07:15
timfrostgarry, do you knowe whgat those 3 entries are intended for? Coz defaukts means that they will be processed at boot.  No guarantee which of them will be mounted at the end07:15
[nige] . /dev/hdb is another hdd07:15
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garrydurt yes, its another hd.07:16
garrytimfrost yes, I am concerned about the same sort of thing, also what happens when the system tries to unmount it three times.07:17
Kr0ntabslide, you have two entries for separate interfaces... each of them are using the exact same IP's... and default gateways...07:17
JaredYAY MY COMPUTER PLAYS DVD'S07:17
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slimI thought that might be the problem...argh.07:17
Kr0ntabyou'll need to change the IP's...07:17
Kr0ntabgive that a shot...07:17
slimis there a way to set that so the computer picks whichever is available??07:18
Kr0ntabjust make them 76 and 77...07:18
timfrostgarry, umount shouldn['t be a problem07:18
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TranceRiver"Supports network install" on the wireless adapter page07:18
durti would either have just one entry, or repartition the drive07:18
TranceRiverWhat does that mean?07:18
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slimor would commenting out the eth0 entry be useful?07:18
garrytimfrost k, thanks.07:18
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ubuntukinghello all07:18
chasmarangWhere do I change my password07:18
slimlet me try different ips first and Ill tell you what happens, ok?07:18
Kr0ntabwelp... it would if you dont intend to use the eth0 interface on bootup...07:18
timfrostslim, Kr0ntab, bothath0 and eth0 have the same IP address. Is that correct for your network, slim?07:18
garrypasswd07:18
maltronhi all - can anyone tell me why ubuntu 5.10 keeps crashing on my brother's athlon xp1800?  I've tried a bunch of fixes from the forums to no avail.07:19
slimtim,, apparently not :)07:19
maltronit crashes whenever you use opengl07:19
garryor system/administration/user manager07:19
intelikeytonyyarusso exactly what kind of modem are we talking here ?     usb modem   winmodem with ndiswarper   internal modem ?????07:19
Kr0ntabtimfrost, thats what I'm suggesting to him....  I'd like to see the results of his route -n on first boot07:19
maltronxscreensaver, glxgears07:19
chasmarangthanks garry07:19
tonyyarussointelikey, internal winmodem on a laptop.07:19
[nige] does the graphics card support opengl07:19
slimI have those kron, would you like me to pastebin those?07:19
[nige] ?07:19
garrychasmarang welcome.07:19
tonyyarussointelikey, Using HSF driver from Linuxant.07:20
intelikeyk working...07:20
Kr0ntabslim, can you do that please?  route -n on first boot.. before refreshing yer networking scripts07:20
TranceRiverTony, do you live in MN?07:20
Kr0ntabyup07:20
slimone second kron07:20
tonyyarussoTranceRiver, Yeah, but I go to school in Ontario.07:20
TranceRiverIs your father named Dave Yarusso?07:20
tonyyarussoTranceRiver, Yep.07:21
TranceRiverI am Mike Carroll.07:21
tonyyarussoTranceRiver, So you would be?07:21
maltronnige if you're talking to me, then yeah, it's a radeon 900007:21
TranceRiverPatrick Carroll's son.07:21
[nige] ahhh07:21
TranceRivererm07:21
slimhttp://pastebin.com/48683207:21
TranceRiverBrother*.07:21
maltroni've got the open source radeon and dri modules running07:21
tonyyarussoTranceRiver, Uh, about that, yeah.07:21
tonyyarussoTranceRiver, Cool stuff.07:21
maltronthe opengl works for about a second, then the screen freezes07:21
TranceRiverHe's getting his eagle soon.07:22
[nige] maltron, if you type in fglrxinfo what does it output?07:22
Kr0ntabyup07:22
[nige] maltron, that need to be done via the terminal07:22
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Kr0ntabeth0 and ath0 both have default gateway entries...07:22
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crimsunTranceRiver: / tonyyarusso: y'all wouldn't mind discussing that in #ubuntu-offtopic, please?07:22
maltronnige, not using fglrxinfo - using dri07:22
Kr0ntabslim, thats yer problem...07:22
TranceRiverWe're PMing now.07:22
tonyyarussocrimsun, Yeah, taking it out now.07:22
crimsunthanks.07:22
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Dreamglideri need some help here:http://roi.torkilsheyggi.fo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=4207:22
maltrondid lsmod and got module radeon, and module dri using radeon07:22
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slimsooo what should I do? comment out the gateway entry under eth0?07:23
Kr0ntabslim, line 5 and 6 are screwing you up07:23
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[nige] maltron,  it seems like you dont have open gl insstalled....ati are particulary nasty with the drivers07:23
Dreamglideri follow that guide but when i do "setxkbmap fo"07:23
slim5 and 6 in my interfaces file ?07:23
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DreamgliderError loading new keyboard description07:23
Kr0ntabcommenting out eth0 would fix it....07:23
maltronno it's definitely installed i think.  I didn't install the proprietary ati drivers, but the open source dri stuff is all there07:23
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slimall of eth0 or just the gateway line?07:24
Kr0ntabslim, is there a reason why yer not using dhcp?07:24
[nige] maltron, install the ati drivers07:24
maltronnige the opengl stuff works really smooth for a second and then it freezes.07:24
Dreamglidercan anyone help me ?07:24
intelikeytonyyarusso being a winmodem is giving me a little bit of a problem...  ah you might checkout  ohphone  and see if it can't be used to simply pick up the reciever (so to speak)       i'm still checking a more dirrect way....07:24
[nige] maltron, yer, thats why i think its opengl compatablity errors07:24
slimsort of..I dual boot and my XP network works better when I statically assign...07:24
slimso I was trying to keep it the same.07:25
[nige] maltron, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide07:25
intelikey!info ohphone07:25
ubotuohphone: (Command line H.323 client with X, SVGA and SDL support), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.4.3+20050304-3build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 224 kB07:25
intelikeytonyyarusso ^07:25
slimwhy do you ask?07:25
maltronnige: xscreensaver crashed with the saver tha that had an ant with a searchlight look, and then when i logged in with ssh noticed that that screensaver too 99% and i couldn't kill it, even after killing xscreensaver itself.  But it was working really smoothly for about 5 seconds before07:25
tonyyarussointelikey, Will look into that.  Thanks for all your effort.07:25
intelikeyi havent given up yet....07:26
maltronnige: i didn't want to install the proprietary ati drivers because i've had big stability issues with them on my debian laptop07:26
slimbueller? :)07:26
maltronnige: plus, on the forums, heaps of people have had a similar problem with nvidia, and with the fglrx driver too07:26
Kr0ntabslim, if you use dhcp... each interfcae will automatically pick up different IP's   because the MAC's are different..  also... the inactive interface will not receive an IP... because it's not plugged in.  so... you wont have the double gateway issue.07:27
maltronnige: so i don't think it's specifically that07:27
slimok...that seems, well, easier :)07:27
Kr0ntabplus... you'll have the added benefit of being able to plug yer eth0 interface and have it boot and just work... if wireless is down.07:27
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slimok...that sounds like what I want basically :) so what do I need to do, besides RTFM :)07:28
[nige] maltron, i am running a radeon 9550, with asus mainboard that uses nvdia controllers and its okay..07:28
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Kr0ntabfirst... register with nickserv so we can take this off chan07:28
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[nige] maltron, but i am also running the ATI specific drivers07:28
Kr0ntabhehe07:28
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[nige] brb07:28
maltronnige: it seems that bunches of people have had that problem and i tried all the fixes - removing powernowd, disabling apic and acpi, changing the agp aperture... nothing works07:28
rockinchadohow do you create a link to an executable so i can put it in the bin folder so i can run the prog from the command line07:28
mbluntmani got an ati question07:28
mbluntmanif anyone interested07:28
Dreamgliderin ubuntu, is it posible to have diffrent wallpapers on each four desktops ?07:29
garryOften when I go try to RTFM I find that I am Reading THe Fossilized Manual.07:29
maltronnige: some people still couldn't fix it after 10 pages of the thread, and several weeks07:29
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maltronnige: some people solved it right away, but each with a different fix07:29
mbluntmanim runnin ati radeon 9200 all-in-wonder, is it possible to get my dual monitor workin07:29
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maltronnige: it seems to be a problem at another level07:30
slimumm register with nickserv...ok...?07:30
dortohow to disable ntp service from starting at the boot time?07:30
dortoits taking lots of time...07:30
maltronnige: not the driver itself, but maybe xorg, or something... I wish I knew!07:30
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dortoits not listed in Administration->Services07:30
maltronnige: apparently the ubuntu people don't know, because the same problem cropped up in several threads and in none was a proper fix reported07:31
Dreamgliderdorto, you can press Ctrl+c when ntp service starts07:31
PeYtonhello07:31
garrymbluntman, If your driver is like mine, in the readme file that came with my driver, it tells how to set up two monitors.07:31
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mbluntmanin linux?07:31
dortoDreamglider: that's what i have been doing until now07:31
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tonyyarussodorto, I know there's a better way than that out there, I just don't use it.07:31
dortoDreamglider: isn't there a permanent way to to stop it07:31
mbluntmangarry07:31
dortotonyyarusso: k07:31
slewhi, what file does ubuntu read when its booting?07:31
Dreamgliderdorto, yes but i dont know how :/07:32
maltronnige: i thought maybe there was a hardware conflict, like with the pci cards or something, so i removed all except the graphics card and the network card - no difference07:32
mbluntmanit displays BUT is distorted bad, like its trying to play PAL on an NTSC tv07:32
dortoDreamglider: k, :)07:32
Dreamglideri have one id realy like to get rid of to07:32
mbluntmanohhh btw, my 2nd monitor is a 27" television07:32
Dreamgliderit's GMS SMS send deamon wich takes a long time to shut down07:32
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PeYtoneverything works on my Toshiba lap, but after installing the nvidia-glx and enableing it, when it restarts, the system hangs on a blank screen..Anyone know of a fix?07:32
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vulturesrowkrontab, Im up , check pm07:34
PeYtonanyone?07:34
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LCamel_hi all ... has anybody ever tried to install kubuntu-desktop in a vserver environment ?07:34
asterickyay... managed to get my livecd for breezy to work.07:34
shad0w2e I got an error during a partition resize.. now my partition isn't readable, (contains FAT ERRORS), but it is recognzied as a FAT32 partition, and it's label is recognized too. Any suggestions on a means for recovery?? I only need a couple of the stuff on there.... Thanks07:34
PeYtonis anyone seeing me type anything?07:34
garryPeYton, try ctrl+Alt F2 and see if you can get into a console you can see and then remove the install.07:34
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asterickPeYton: nope. not a thing.07:35
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PeYtonlol07:35
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PeYtonthanks07:35
coagsorry about that07:35
PeYtonremove the nvidia install?07:35
PeYtonbut I need the 3d enabled...kind of a n00b here...lol07:35
astericknow, just to see if gparted will explode because of dmraid.07:35
shad0w2ethe term is newb07:36
PeYtonit wont even let me do that...keyboard locked and everything07:36
garryYeah, some have had issues with the newest nvidia driver. that is why I'm using the second newest.07:36
coag!wube07:36
ubotucoag: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:36
coagerr07:36
coag!wine07:36
PeYtonwhat version os the second newest?07:36
garryor try commenting out the glx stuff in xorg.conf and see if that helps, but that's just a guess, so take with grain of salt.07:36
garrysec, lookng ...07:36
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livertriphello!07:37
PeYtonI have messed with xorg a little bit, commented out a few things that I thought helped, but no go.07:37
metacant get breezy to install properly ... i'm hanging at X startup time ... booting into recovery mode, and a manual startx has the same result ... ati9600agp.intel845 ... i c others are reporting this on the support forums as well ... anybody got a workaround?07:37
livertripjust installed ubuntu07:37
PeYtonthought it might have something to do with KDE so I am switching to Gnome.07:37
garrythe version I have is 1.0-766707:38
PeYtonthats what was on the sepositories07:38
mumanddadcool liver :-)07:38
intelikeyhmmmm tonyyarusso find anything useful with ohphone ?07:38
PeYton7667 was what is installed.07:38
mumanddadif you need any help with anything this is the place :-)07:39
tonyyarussointelikey, Not yet, multitasking a bit too much.07:39
PeYtonbeen searching all over the net to try and fix this, if I can get it resolved I will be rockin07:39
metafolks, anyone discover a workaround to the X startup problem w/ breezy?07:39
intelikeywell i drew a blank on the goose i was chasing tonyyarusso   but that's a good question and i've wondered it before.07:40
garryI dunno Meta but I hear ye.07:40
intelikeyjust never tried to answer it.07:40
vulturesrowcheck07:40
metagarry, tell me about it mate ... this hurts badly right now ... breezy is a complete no-go for me here!07:41
tonyyarussointelikey, Will keep looking through it anyway.07:41
PeYtonbreezy doing good for me so far except for this restart-blank screen lock up thing...lol07:41
intelikey#UBUNTU    how do you cause the modem speaker and line to ingauage without issuing a dial command ?07:42
metaPeyton, u got a workaround when it hangs?07:42
PeYtonnope....been trying to fix this for days07:42
garrymeta Yep, I hear ye. I had issues at first when I tried installing it. It kept installing grub on my first sata NTFS drive instead of the correct drive = destroying access to windows.07:42
metai can't even get in the first time ... much less a restart!07:42
intelikeyhow to tell the modem to just pick up the phone and pipe it to the /dev/dsp56k   ???07:42
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PeYtonouch, that does hurt...07:43
PeYtonwill it let you go in command line mode?07:43
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metai can go into the 'recovery mode' boot option, but startx there fails similarly.07:43
metaany word from the ubuntu tech guys on this yet?07:43
PeYtonMeta, i may not be much help here, --->newb07:44
metai don't see any acknowledgments of tthe problem on the forums.07:44
polpakmeta, what is the problem?07:44
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crimsunmeta: reproducible on dapper flight 2 live cd, too?07:44
metapolpak, can't start X  ... fresh breezy install ... ati9600agp.intel845.07:44
intelikeymeta fresh install ?07:44
metafresh07:45
intelikeyor did you have files in /home/youname07:45
metahappens on liveCD as well07:45
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metanope, brand new install on a fresh machine ... single boot, new drive07:45
crimsunmeta: even on dapper flight 2?07:45
intelikeyhardware issue....07:45
polpakmeta, have you tried installing the ati drivers?07:45
intelikeymeta what vidio card and monitor ?07:46
polpakmeta, and does it give an error, or ?07:46
metacrimsun, don't know dapper flight2, intelikey, ati9600agp, viewsonic p95f07:46
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metano error, just blank screen, signal loss.07:46
PeYtonwish I had this many people helping me....lmao07:46
garryHis card is a ati9600agp.intel84507:46
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vulturesrowKrontab, worked like a champ, thanks for the help!07:47
Kr0ntab:-D07:47
dleHi.  Does Breezy run cron or anacron by default?07:47
Kr0ntabhey not a problem.07:47
polpakmeta, so you have both an onboard video card and an agp radeon?07:47
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timfrostdle, both.07:47
PeYtonKrontab, can you help me out:)07:47
doluuis there any canonical staff?07:47
vulturesrowIve been beating my head against the wall for like 3 days now trying to figure this out.07:47
crimsunmeta: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-2/07:47
vulturesrowThanks a million07:47
dletimfrost - That's what it looked like to me.07:47
metapolpak, yep.07:47
dletimfrost - Do you know why that is?07:48
Kr0ntabglad to help, bud.07:48
garryOh good question polpak. ye need to disable the onboard one probably.07:48
polpakmeta, and you've confirmed that the video isn't just going to the other card?07:48
vulturesrowfunny thing is, I thought that something like that might be the problem..anyhow, thanks again. Cheers.07:48
intelikeyis it switching to the onboard when X takes over ?  meta07:48
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timfrostdle, no. I assume that they do different parts of the job.07:48
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metaliveCD does manage to start x all the way to the splashscreen and gnome start sequence ... then poof!07:48
dleGuess so.  Thanks. :)07:48
Dreamglidercan someone send me the file "pc" in the dir /etc/X11/xkb/symbols pleas07:49
PeYtonblank screen and lock up on Toshiba laptop, anyone know how to fix?07:49
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metainteli ... can't say ...don't c why it would ... liveCD definitely stays on ati after X start.07:49
garryNotice the two good questions polpack asked.07:49
Kr0ntabPeYton, just ask the question.  lots of people in here may be able to help.07:49
intelikeypolpak we are on the same train of thought there, so i'll let you take it.07:49
PeYtonafter restart that is07:49
Klementasdoes anyone know the package I need to install in order to get a full and configured X installation without installing either gnome or kde ??07:49
polpakintelikey, ;)07:49
PeYtonOK07:49
eugene_This is probably off topic but, If I wanted to make a fileserver for a home network the distro would just need samba and optionally that remote terminal right?07:49
Kr0ntabvulturesrow, :-)  thats great.07:49
dletimfrost - Nonetheless restart in both from /etc/init.d/ produces only 1 process -- called cron.07:49
dlerestarting07:50
polpakeugene_, samba server and either vnc or at the very least sshd07:50
garryKlementas, X should install by default. its used by both kde, gnome and possibly other.07:50
PeYtonI have a freesh copy of Ubuntu installed, nvidia-glx installed everything works great...but....07:50
Klementasgarry: I don't install the full ubuntu though07:50
garryunless you told it not to.07:50
PeYtonwhen rebooting, screen goes blank and system hangs....anyone?07:50
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polpakmeta, when it goes blank try plugging the monitor into the other port07:50
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JadussD!w32codecs07:50
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:50
polpakmeta, i.e. the onboard one and see if the screen is there instead07:50
LordMelkorim having trouble burning a data cd07:50
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siglappy!suspend207:51
ubotususpend2 is, like, at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7544307:51
LordMelkori get07:51
LordMelkorthe message that k3b is unable to fixate disk07:51
PeYtonif I do not installed Nvidia drivers, system reboots everytime, if I install it, it hangs on reboot07:51
garryKlementas Oh, that makes a difference. Hmm. Lots of apt-get stuff to do in that case. I don't know which ones tho.07:51
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metapolpak ... sry for the false alert .. there is no onboard video ... (my bad).07:51
polpakKlementas, I believe you want xubuntu-desktop07:51
Klementaspolpak: I don't want that either07:52
Klementaspolpak: just X07:52
polpakKlementas, um...07:52
PeYtonTried Kubuntu and the same thing happened/07:52
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garryYe know, I had a similar thing as Meta, but my X worked. It said I had an intel something board plus my nvidia, and yet I only had nvidia.07:52
PeYtonUbuntu 5.10 hangs on reboot, system locks up, can anyone help me?07:52
metaso, onboard is not a factor ... does breezy require a manual ati driver update?07:53
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polpakmeta, no, it shouldn't07:53
polpakmeta, but it wouldn't hurt07:53
metawhich ones does the distro install by default.07:53
Kr0ntabPeYton, im not sure.  (not ignoring you... just not sure).   what happens when you stop GDM first... then the 3 finger solute (ctrl-alt-delete)07:53
dletimfrost - Ah, 'restart' in the anacron script does nothing.  Not even a useful message.07:53
polpakmeta, I'm curious to see your xorg.conf file though if you can pastebin it07:53
PeYtonnever tried that..have no idea, why?07:53
PeYtonI'll give it a shot and see what happens.07:54
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Dreamglidercan someone send me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc pleas07:54
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Kr0ntabPeYton, ctrl+alt+F1 .... log in....  then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"07:54
PeYtonit's just wierd....without the Nvidia drivers installed, system works fine07:54
tonyyarussoDreamglider, If you tell me how, I will.07:55
metasry, paste is hard to do ... i've inspected it ... looks ok, ... anything i should look for and report back? (recognised the ati and monitor correctly, display, screen modes and depths look fine)07:55
PeYtonk07:55
Klementasno one knows ?07:55
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polpakKlementas, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg07:55
Kr0ntabPeYton, then reboot...  see what yer system hangs on07:55
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Klementaspolpak: k07:55
PeYtonok will do...thanks07:55
arahow do i take that lock symbol from a folder?07:55
crimsunKlementas: use x-window-system-core07:55
polpakara, didn't I help you with this before?07:56
Klementascrimsun: ok, thanks07:56
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arapolpak, i had to leave that time, i didn't actualy try07:56
polpakmeta, My best suggestion would be to try installing the ati binary drivers\07:56
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polpakmeta, But I've honestly had no trouble with my radeons using the default driver07:57
Klementasthere needs to be a GNUstep-desktop meta package07:57
arapolpak , what was that chown command again?07:57
polpakara, ah.. well. You just need to chown the directory07:57
PapagenoHow do I set the system time from the terminal? Or how do I set my time zone?07:57
polpakara, so cd ~/Desktop07:57
timfrostDreamglider, I have pasted mine to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/647607:57
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crimsunKlementas: make one.07:57
polpakara, then sudo chown -R ara:ara directory07:57
Dreamglidertimfrost, thanks alot07:57
arapolpak ok let me try07:58
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Klementascrimsun: are there any GNUstep at all on ubuntu ?07:58
metapolpak, i agree ... i c nothing to implicate the drivers ... also i c users reporting exactly the same symptoms on nv cards (install support forum) ... there is something else going on here ...07:58
timfrostDreamglider, hopwe it helps07:58
xp__why do poeple like ubuntu more than like centos?07:58
polpakara, assuming that ara is your ubuntu login name and directory is the name of your directory07:58
Klementascrimsun: packages that is07:58
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polpakara, and also assuming the directory is still on your desktop07:58
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xp__why is it better than say suse?07:58
Khainecos i said so :P07:59
_smd_ Has anyone had problems with previewing( ie watching part of it) a movie in gtk-gnutella before it is done downloading and the rest does not download ever? 2 times this has happened that i had peeked at what movie i was trying to down loaded and it quit downloading altogether.07:59
polpakxp__, larger userbase = better support.. Also much of it 'just works' out of the box the way users would want it to07:59
crimsunKlementas: apt-cache search gnustep07:59
xp__I have to pick an enterprise server for a samba pdc, would ubuntu be a good choice?07:59
Klementascrimsun: I gotta install this thing first ;)07:59
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crimsunKlementas: then use http://packages.ubuntu.com/08:00
arapolpak : it says invalid option --r08:00
mihaican someone help me to split an avi video?08:00
Khainewell ubuntu is a desktop distro08:00
Klementascrimsun: ah, thanks08:00
polpak_smd_, I don't use gnutella, but I have no trouble "peeking" at files being dloaded via bit torrent, and given the way the ext3 fs works I can't imagine it's much different for other proggies08:00
metaguys, how many terms does the default installation open at boot? i can't even switch b/w terms (ALT+Fx) once the hang happens.08:00
KhaineI would go with redhat08:00
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Khainebecause you get corp support08:00
xp__redhat costs too much, what about a free distro?08:00
ITSa341I installed ndiswrapper and ndisgtk  but the card will not connect. won't even offer me a ssid to try to connect to. same card works fine in xp and another card is connected right now. ideas?08:00
igaaahi everyone08:00
Khaineotherwise debian08:01
freelovehow do i install e17/e16 in ubuntu?08:01
timfrostmeta, 6 terms - X is on VT 708:01
MadpilotKhaine: you can buy corp. support for Ubuntu from Canonical...08:01
Khaineits free, good, ubuntu is based on it08:01
mihaifreelove, try ubuntu forums. in the how/to section08:01
Khaineyeah true08:01
crimsunfreelove: unable universe and install enlightenment08:01
Khainebut ubuntu server is very new08:01
metatimfrost, swithc b/w terms using ALT+Fx correct?08:01
Kr0ntabITSa341, does ndiswrapper show that yer card is connected and active?08:01
KhaineI'd rather go with something a little more tested08:01
freelovecrimsun: ive installed enlightenment..but it looks so ugly! not like in screenshots!08:01
ITSa341shows it as driver installed and hardware present08:02
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crimsunfreelove: are you looking for e17 or something?08:02
Viper12server may be new, but its based on debian, and IBM has already certified it with DB2, so its nuthin' to sneeze at.08:02
polpakara, sorry it should be -R08:02
polpakara, not lower case08:02
timfrostmeta, CTRL-ALT-Fn from X.  Otherwise yes08:02
Kr0ntabgood...  and what type of wireless network are you trying to connect to?08:02
Kr0ntabopen?  wep... WPA?08:02
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ITSa341Kr0ntab GTK 802.11g pcmcia08:02
metak, thnx guys.08:02
polpakxp__, ubuntu is perfectly viable as a server distro. You just don't want to install all the desktop stuff08:02
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freelovecrimsun: ya08:02
Dreamglidertimfrost, thanks a bunch again,08:03
Kr0ntabITSa341, I mean whats the Access Point configured to use.08:03
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Kr0ntabWPA-PSK?  WEP?  or just open (no password)08:03
ITSa341WEP 802.11b/g   Linksys WRT54GX08:03
crimsunfreelove: then search the forum like mihai said08:03
ITSa341mimo08:03
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LordMelkorcan i get some help with burning a cd.. i got this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11130108:03
ITSa341WEP 128bit08:03
arapolpak thanks, it worked08:04
polpakara, no08:04
polpakara, err no problem08:04
ITSa341Hi ara  things working out for ya?08:04
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vilefridgeHello! :)  I'm having trouble restoring my Grub boot menu. I can't find the menu file in /boot/grub.  Is it possible that it's located somewhere else?08:05
Kr0ntabITSa341, rom command line... type iwconfig... paste the output into www.pastebin.com    ... submit....  then give us the resulting URL...08:05
Dreamgliderthe folks who make and keep ubuntu upto date should fix the fo (Faroese) keyboard layout it does not work > http://roi.torkilsheyggi.fo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=4208:05
tonyyarussovilefridge, Should be /boot/grub/menu.lst like you thought.08:05
crimsunDreamglider: file a bug.08:05
arapolpak, well i have one more problem, i don't know how to automount my second hard drive, i know i have to edit the /etc/fstab but it gives me error all the time08:06
tonyyarussovilefridge, Any other things there?08:06
Dreamgliderlater08:06
polpakLordMelkor, it sounds like your user doesn't have access to the device, or the CD isn't writeable08:06
Dreamglidergood night08:06
polpakara, what errors?08:06
vilefridgetonyyarusso:  It's not there :(  There's a Grub menu when I'm booting, but it points to the wrong locations..08:06
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arapolpak it says line one is bad08:06
quail_linuxafternoon all08:06
polpakara can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file?08:07
tonyyarussovilefridge, locate menu.lst08:07
LordMelkorso should i try to burn from root?08:07
arapolpak , yes , i sure will08:07
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polpakLordMelkor, I wouldn't suggest it. Just ls -al  the device08:07
polpakLordMelkor, and see what the permissions are08:07
LordMelkorhow do i do that08:08
LordMelkorim not familiar with that command :-/08:08
polpakLordMelkor, what is the device for your cdrom drive?08:08
LordMelkorcd-rw drive yes08:08
sportmankidthanks for all your help guys i finally got ati working08:08
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sportmankidi dont know about graphics accel08:08
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freelovehelp me! i forgot my yahoo password.....but opera wand can automatically log me in....can i retrieve my password thru some conf file in opera??08:08
batmancan anyone tell me what i need to download so that java applets can run?08:08
arapolpak: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/647708:09
polpakubotu tell batman about java08:09
astericknote to self: GParted = Bad.08:09
garryLordLucless, I see that your errors says the program has issues with any kernel of 2.5 and newer. I think you might need to use another burner app.08:09
tonyyarusso!tell batman about javadebs08:09
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polpakwhoops08:09
polpakara, what was that?08:09
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LordMelkorany suggestions for burner apps?08:10
arapolpak, that's my fstab08:10
polpakara, no, I meant what was the url08:10
polpakara, I accidentally closed Xchat08:10
jbryanhi all08:10
batmanLordMelkor, i use gnomebaker08:11
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arapolpak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/647708:11
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mihaiis here someone who use avidemux?08:11
PuRowhat is the best file sharing program for ubuntu>?08:11
garryNix that, maybe I'm wrong, it only says warning, there are issues but thats just a warning and so now I"m not sure. might try sudo k3b at terminal, see what happens.08:11
jbryanhow do you use rpms in ubuntu?08:11
polpakara, oh, easy problem08:11
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polpakara, you need to put a # at the beginning of line 108:11
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polpakubotu tell jbryan about alien08:12
mihaiPuRo, for me DC++ from Automatix because I download from lan. You could try also aMule and FrostWire08:12
asterickanyone in here familiar with ubuntu installation with DMRaid?08:12
intelikeyi wish people wouldn't ask "what is the best blah"  it is so trollish....08:12
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mihaijbryan, try alien08:12
polpakjbryan I should already be installed08:12
polpakjbryan, or it rather08:12
mihaijbryan, man alien, I think08:12
arapolpak , line one which starts with "proc"?08:12
_SD_Keo|Lappy|Hello, I'm wondering how well ubuntu, with X, will run on a p133 80mbram laptop08:12
crimsunjbryan: always check if the program is Ubuntu's repo first.08:13
polpakara, no, the line that starts with /etc/fstab08:13
crimsun_SD_Keo|Lappy|: very badly.08:13
_SD_Keo|Lappy|thought so08:13
PuRomihai they all produce the same amount of results per search or the statistics diffre from one another?08:13
polpakcrimsun, not nessicaraly08:13
arapolpak ok let me try08:13
freelovemihai: i have it installed but dont know how to use it;)08:13
polpakcrimsun, if he doesn't use gnome/kde it might work ok08:13
jbryanwhere's that, I just switched to ubuntu from suse, so I'm used to YAST08:13
freelovehelp me! i forgot my yahoo password.....but opera wand can automatically log me in....can i retrieve my password thru some conf file in opera??08:13
mihaiPuRo, best use all of them. and see which is best for a specific file08:13
_SD_Keo|Lappy|like fluxbox?08:13
eugene_SD what do you need from your distro?08:13
crimsunpolpak: right, that's assumed with "Ubuntu" installing GNOME.08:13
polpakjbryan, system->administration->synaptic08:14
_SD_Keo|Lappy|to be able to use it >.>08:14
PuRocan i get frostwire using a sudo in terminal?08:14
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, not very well. There was an debian mod for systems like yours08:14
crimsun_SD_Keo|Lappy|: fluxbox would work more snappily, yes08:14
arapolpak, yes, i guess it works08:14
mihaiPuRo, get Automatix from ubuntuforums08:14
vilefridgetonyyarusso: found her, thanks!!08:14
garryGo to Yahoo.com and at the login, click forgot password. They will auto email you your password.08:14
PuRosudo apt-get install frostwire? im a newbie at linux atnmosphere08:14
crimsun!automatix08:14
polpak_SD_Keo|Lappy|, you can install 'server' which is a minimal system, then run a lightweight window manager in vanilla X and you might do ok08:14
ubotuautomatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!08:14
PuRoi have automatix08:14
jbryanalien is marked for install, now what?08:15
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, what's the name of this debian mod..08:15
arapolpak, thanks08:15
Madpilotjbryan: hit Install, wait a minute or three :)08:15
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, I'm looking now for it08:15
polpakjbryan, what rpm are you trying to install?08:15
Madpilotjbryan: Apply, actually08:15
polpakara, sure, np08:15
mihaiPuRo, get the lastest. 4.2 I think08:15
eugene_hey anyone know of any large copresssed archive of a bunch of creative commons music?08:15
_SD_Keo|Lappy|I love this laptop but windows95 is running me up the wall x-x08:16
garryThere should be a contest for a hall of fame for answering questions and helping and patience, half you folks would be there.08:16
intelikey!warez08:16
ubotuintelikey: I don't know08:16
jbryanyeah, it took about a minute before it did anything.  I found an old Quake game for linux08:16
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eugene_Sd what's bugging you about 95 specifically?08:17
polpakjbryan, I believe the free versions of quake and doom are available in the ubuntu multiverse08:17
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polpak_SD_Keo|Lappy|, Did you hear my suggestion about 'server' install?08:17
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, http://debian.cante.net/stem/08:17
garryThere is a patch to run many of the ID games, quake3 diablo 2, doom3 serious sam and others under linux.08:17
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, best you can find08:17
_SD_Keo|Lappy|eugene_, it's becomming more and more unstable.. and there is no CD-rom drive..08:17
PuRoi did a sudo apt-get install frostwire is this correct08:17
_SD_Keo|Lappy|polpak, yes I did, that would work too08:17
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Octanemy hdd keeps reading 5mb /second plus and i cat nfigure out whats causing it08:18
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Octaneits causing my system to slwodown for 20 minutes at a time08:18
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crimsuneugene_: as in via the text entry field of search on http://creativecommons.org/audio/ ?08:18
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, also feather linux, puppy linux08:18
eugene_Ahh I see. I was going to suggest puppy linux but apprently stem is the debian equivilent08:18
Octanehow can it race this debilitating problem?08:18
Octanetrace*08:18
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mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, Ubuntu is very nice, but it's not suitable for such a low-end pc08:19
polpakjbryan, sudo apt-get install quake2 quake2-data08:19
dleOctane - I've been having a problem w/ gam_server grabbing all my ram, which forces the system to do a lot of swapping to and from hd.08:19
JappaOllahi08:19
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, eugene_, I've tried both of them, the compact linux I like best is damnsmalllinux..08:19
JappaOllaanyone can help me about gnutella?08:19
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polpak!gnutella08:19
ubotupolpak: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:19
polpakhrm08:19
cozhello all again08:19
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, have you tryed stem too?08:19
NCLifesorry for that silly question, but im really confused.. does dvdshrink only compess dvds? or can it also burn them08:19
polpakwould have thought he'd known that one08:19
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, Oh I know, I use it on the desktop.. it's running ubuntu at the moment08:19
JappaOllapolpak: ?08:19
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, no..08:19
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polpakJappaOlla, what's your question?08:20
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, that looks nice for me08:20
PeteyPablo!limewire08:20
Octanedle: i have had that problem in the past, but thats not whats causing this...08:20
ubotuI heard limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.08:20
eugene_Actually I'm just looking for free music I suppose.  J ust one file I can download and fill the computer with music08:20
JappaOllapolpak: it says that i'm firewalled08:20
Octaneright now my hdd is going crazy at 4 to 10 megs a second writing08:20
cozNCLife I would leave dvd burning upt gnombaker or nerolinux08:20
JappaOllaor seems to be08:20
polpakJappaOlla, are you?08:20
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, but why don;t you get a fresh new laptop, something like a nx6110 and put ubuntu on it?08:20
mmhsshow do u download whole directory via ftp ? (no x)08:20
JappaOllapolpak: don't know... how can know?08:20
Octaneis there any way to see what program is causing this insanity?08:20
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cozoctane what insanity08:21
polpakJappaOlla, are you using a cable/dsl router?08:21
JappaOllapolpak: dsl modem08:21
NCLifecoz okay, so dvdshrink is only good to compress dvds, or for something else too?08:21
Octanecoz: my extremely high hdd writing08:21
eugene_"Octaneright now my hdd is going crazy at 4 to 10 megs a second writing"08:21
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, I would, if I had money =)08:21
Octaneeugene_: thanks :)08:21
eugene_heh08:21
garrymmhss copy from the ftp window, then paste to your destination.08:21
cozoh well let me ask you something did  you install ubuntu on a hard drive that had another os on it08:21
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, if you need help with adsense I'm here for you ;)08:21
polpakJappaOlla, what brand, Westell?08:21
JappaOllad-link08:21
Octanecoz: me? no i have been using ubuntu for 6 months08:22
cozYes08:22
garryoh no x. In that case I dunno, sorry Mmhss08:22
mmhss:)08:22
cozthis was a clean hard drive08:22
dleOctane - Maybe lsof, and grep for /dev/hd-whatever-letter-applies08:22
polpakJappaOlla, what does it say on the front?08:22
Octaneusually when my hdd is bugging out like this i cant even move my mouse08:22
JappaOllapolpak: gnutella?08:22
cozoctane this was a clean harddrive08:22
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Octanecoz: completely08:22
polpakJappaOlla, no, your d-link "modem" (which I believe will turn out to in fact be a router)08:22
Octanecoz, im not a newbie, i been using ubuntu for months08:23
cozOk if it was new or low formatted then I have no idea without actually being there what theproblem could be08:23
JappaOllapolpak: dsl-302t08:23
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cozOctane alothof people never low format their hard drives08:23
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cozSorry no offense meant08:23
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, would there be any way to get stem onto this laptop, without a cd-rom drive or 2.5-3.5 adapter?08:23
Octaneit sall good08:24
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mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, sure. install debian with fdd and then everything thourgh the internet08:24
Octanethis is so god damn frustrating though because this 8 megs a second reading (or writing) renders my system completely unusable08:24
cozOctane save what you need to low format that drive and reinstall08:24
Octanehell no08:24
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, but you need a desktop or something to do all this08:24
intelikeysome hdd's can not be low level formated without destroying the disks    err that may be a thing of the past now though08:25
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, I have a desktop, it's sitting downstairs with ubuntu running...08:25
cozOctane OK I reinstall all of the time08:25
garryOctane does ps have anything strange in it?08:25
crimsun_SD_Keo|Lappy|: if you can netboot it over pxe, then that's the easiest way.08:25
cozIt is what I have to do it's my job08:25
Octanegarry: no i mlooking at it right now08:25
garryOctane nods.08:25
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, go there and find out how to install debian with the fdd08:26
JappaOllapolpak: ?08:26
Octanei have tried quitting all running programs figure it might be some app  going craszy too08:26
cozI reinstall all my os's except mac because I neer use it08:26
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_SD_Keo|Lappy|crimsun, I've been looking at PXE, I can't figure out how to get it on here..08:26
garryYe know last time I had a drive act like that it was a smart drive that was going bad.08:26
garryI had also one that was bad right out the door.08:26
crimsun_SD_Keo|Lappy|: there are guides on the Web08:26
intelikeykill pid's one by one until you hit the runaway.08:26
polpakJappaOlla, looking up your specs08:27
polpakJappaOlla, can you ifconfig -a and see what your ip is?08:27
intelikeyOctane ^08:27
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, this has no FDD either, it's dead.08:27
Octaneintelikey: good ide08:27
navreetwhat's after breezy? and is it anywhere near stable?08:27
polpaknavreet, dapper08:28
JappaOllapolpak: yes, then?08:28
cozDapper is after breezy and NO it is not stabel yet08:28
polpakJappaOlla, tell me what it is08:28
garryI'm not sure if it's stable but there is somethign after breezy, and its reported on at www.distrowatch.com08:28
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, then you have a problem. don't know what to tell you to do08:28
navreetpolpak, do you use dapper?08:28
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mihai, I could probably use loadlin.exe to boot the floppy though..08:28
_SD_Keo|Lappy|er.. there's multiple isn't there..08:28
cozpolpak Dapper Drake is after breezy and No it is not stable yet08:28
mihai_SD_Keo|Lappy|, don't know08:28
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sportmankidhas anyone here installed and configured mythtv on ubuntu08:29
cozI know I have it on the other machine08:29
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sportmankidif so i have just a few questions08:29
_SD_Keo|Lappy|I think  i'm going to try PXE..08:29
Octanei have a million 'smtp', 'bounce' and 'cleanup' programs running. any idea what those are08:29
polpaknavreet, no. I use Breezy08:29
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cozOctane not a clue08:30
intelikeyhehhe well that didn't take long to decide08:30
cozintelikey INSTALL it agin dude08:30
cozkeep installing until it's right08:30
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polpakOctane, smtp is mail08:30
intelikeyna probably not coz08:30
Octaneof course08:30
Octanei knew that08:30
timfrostOctane, they are mail delivery.  opresumably Postfix. Are you conmfigured as a relay?08:31
Octanebut i have a million instances of cleanup, bounce and smtp runnign by postfix08:31
garrySing it to the tune of michal Jackson's beat it, just install it.08:31
cozI reinstall about five times a month08:31
Octanetimfrost: not at all08:31
polpakOctane, netstat -an | grep LISTEN08:31
intelikeysmtp=send mail to point08:31
PeteyPablo!latex08:31
ubotuPeteyPablo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:31
polpakOctane, is port 25 open to the outside?08:31
intelikeyprotical08:31
PeteyPablo!botsnack08:31
ubotuthanks peteypablo :)08:31
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Octanepolpak: nope08:32
Octanewait yes it is i should close it08:32
PapagenoHow do I set the system time from the terminal? Or how do I set my time zone?08:32
polpakintelikey, I think it actually stands for "Simple Mail Transport Protocol"08:32
polpakOctane, yes definately08:32
sowdogAnyone here know the gnome naming convention for icons? Some of my icons are the default and some are themed.08:32
crimsunPapageno: tzconfig08:32
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cozpapageno right click on time adjust time08:33
MrPocketsandyone know why my PC beeps every now and then?08:33
tonyyarussoPapageno, You're not supposed to do the system time while it's running I've heard, it gets confused.08:33
vilefridgeMrPockets: thermal issues?08:33
cozit doesn't get confused08:33
polpakMrPockets, terminal bell?08:33
MrPockets35 C08:33
crimsuntonyyarusso: hah, when else would you set it?08:33
tonyyarussocoz: My did once.08:34
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cozexactly opther than when you install08:34
_SD_Keo|Lappy|MrPockets, mabye it doesn't like the way you look at it?08:34
timfrostOctane, that figures - if 1 spam bot has found port 25 open, it will open lots of connections, causing \lots of propcesses:(08:34
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intelikeyPapageno sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org && sudo hwclock --systohc08:34
MrPocketsgod damnit, i get that a lot :-\08:34
mmhssnite08:34
cozwell that may be the install08:34
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Badm4nhi08:34
Coag!gnutella08:34
ubotuCoag: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about08:34
Coagmeh08:34
intelikeyMrPockets language.08:34
tonyyarussocrimsun, Set the hardware clock, and let the sys clock adjust on next boot.08:34
richardtallentHow do I upgrade to OpenOffice 2.01 from the beta in Ubuntu 5.10? Package Manager doesn't seem to have an update available.08:34
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Coagany info on how to get gtk-gnutella through apt?08:35
Badm4nwhat should i put on my apt/sourcelist to get update from ubuntu 6.00 ?08:35
Octanetimfrost: absolutely, but it doesnt seem like that was causing th eproblem08:35
cozapt-get update apt-get upgrade08:35
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LordMelkorgreat i justed fuked my computer over.08:35
cozLordMelkor what happened08:35
LordMelkornow i understand why people warn not to do stuff in root08:35
garryOuch LordLucless08:35
LordMelkori tried to use gnomebaker08:35
LordMelkoras root08:35
LordMelkorbut it crashed08:35
crimsuntonyyarusso: shouldn't matter on a sane OS.08:35
cozwell you're still here08:36
cozooo why?08:36
MyrttiLordMelkor: and if you're being in the net as root, that is as bad08:36
LordMelkorand i had to use force quit08:36
LordMelkornow i cant log on normally08:36
LordMelkornot even with failsafe08:36
polpakCoag, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella ?08:36
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Octanei have over 250 processes running, including over 100 'smtp' and 'bounce' and 'cleanup' processes08:36
Coagpolpak: doesn't exist in the standarad repos08:36
Coagi was wondering if someone knows what repo it's in08:36
freelovehow do i get the e16 panel? ive installed e16...............08:36
cozoctane shut them down08:36
polpakCoag, then it's in multiverse or universe08:36
PeteyPabloOctane: i'd say something is wrong08:36
polpakCoag, cause I have it08:36
Octanecoz everytime i killall them they come back08:36
LordMelkorit says "your session was less than 10 seconds"08:36
_SD_Keo|Lappy|crimsun, PXE might not work, I think this is too old, 1996-97..08:37
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OctanePeteyPablo: i'd agree :)08:37
LordMelkorand somthing else and then logs me off08:37
crimsun_SD_Keo|Lappy|: ouch08:37
cozAh Oh maybe one of the few linux viruses08:37
Octaneim gonna reboot, see what happens08:37
cozGood idea08:37
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Octanethanks to everyone for your help, i appreciate it08:37
intelikeyOctane one of two things  either your mail server is hosed or you are not spam filtering it correctly08:37
freelovehow do i get the e16 panel? ive installed e16...............;(08:37
PeteyPablo*wonder if he will see octane again*08:37
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polpak!find gtk-gnutella08:37
ubotugtk-gnutella: (shares files in a peer to peer network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.95.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1582 kB, Installed size: 5776 kB08:37
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OctanePeteyPablo: LOL08:37
PeteyPablo:-)08:37
_SD_Keo|Lappy|crimsun: Unless there's an updated BIOS from compaq..08:37
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freelovethere should be enubuntu......an e16 based ubuntu!08:38
Badm4nwhat should i put on my apt/sourcelist to get update from ubuntu 6.00 ?08:38
garrylet us pray for Octanes speedy return ......08:38
cozoctane will be back?08:38
LordMelkordo u think i have to reformat hd reinstall ubunutu08:38
coz!08:38
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ubotucoz: Are you smoking crack?08:38
LordMelkorand^08:38
Octanerofl08:38
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Octanewatch im gonna be back!08:38
cozwhy what's up08:38
mebaran151so dapper drake is not going to use hotplug?08:38
PeteyPabloOctane! i doubt it08:38
crimsunBadm4n: are you SURE you want to run Dapper? It's not the sanest thing to do atm.08:38
crimsunmebaran151: we ripped it out already, so no.08:38
polpakLordMelkor, well it's an option certainly08:38
mebaran151crimsun, so what do you use instead08:38
richardtallentcoz: thanks, but Package Manager still lists 1.9.129 as the latest versioni08:38
crimsunudev.08:38
cozno I just quit smoking altoghether two days ago08:39
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mebaran151udev can do everything?08:39
polpakLordMelkor, if you have a live cd you can try to save any files you want to keep onto a different partition08:39
crimsunas of 2.6.15, yes.08:39
cozrichardtallent okj08:39
mebaran151ah08:39
LordMelkorbut i dont.08:39
crimsunhotplug was a mess anyhow, good riddance.08:39
richardtallentcoz: soo...k08:39
mebaran151I am running Dapper to be a good betatest08:39
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mebaran151er08:39
freeloveplz..no one uses e16/e17 heere?08:39
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mebaran151just finished my apt-get dist-upgrade08:39
polpakfreelove, what are they?08:40
intelikeycoz you don't call it "quit smoking" until you can say "year" in the same sentance :)08:40
mebaran151freelove, they have e17 in the repos?08:40
LordMelkorthis is ghetto. cant log on anymore T_T i even restarted08:40
crimsunmebaran151: no08:40
cozOH I see well I think i will make that year08:40
lampshadefreelove:  I tried to use e17 via repos the other day and it segfaulted consistently when I loaded it :-/08:40
mebaran151nuts, why not?08:40
freeloveENLIGHTENMENT!08:40
mebaran151I've always wanted to run e17, because it looks pretty.08:40
lampshadeit is pretty08:40
freelovelampshade: im using e16........but how to get that nice panel at the bottom?08:40
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polpakIt's a bit bloated.. If I'm going minimal I prefer fluxbox08:41
richardtallentSo does this mean I'm stuck with the OpenOffice beta for now? No 2.01?08:41
lampshadeOh I have no idea.  I kno the panel is default with e17 but I have no idea how or anything with e16 sorry :(08:41
Badm4ncrimsun: yes i want to try dapper08:41
mebaran151if I was to make a package for it, how do you apply to have it uploaded?08:41
freelovei prefer beauty.is fluxbox beautiful?08:41
polpakrichardtallent, dapper isn't that far away08:41
richardtallentI'm using XML spreadsheets and the beta sort of sucks with them.08:41
lampshade#enlightenment maybe?08:41
polpakfreelove, it's pretty good looking08:41
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richardtallentman dapper08:41
ejofeefreelove: icewm is beautiful08:41
mebaran151polpak, xfce looks nice I think08:41
intelikeypolpak minimal and GUI don't mix do they ?08:41
crimsunrichardtallent: there's a great deal that has to be straightened out and backported before OO.o 2.01 hits the backports.08:41
mebaran151but then again my aesthetic ability is the equivalent of a muskrat08:42
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polpakintelikey, well fluxbox is certainly more minimal than gnome08:42
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garryLoL08:42
intelikeyyeah08:42
PeteyPablowhats ideal for a 1ghz celeron with 512ram, ubuntu or dsl ?08:42
richardtallentAh... didn't think there were that many dependencies in place. Bummer. What about 2.0 final? Is it ready somewhere?08:42
Octane:)08:42
MachineScrewThough I am spoiled by gnome08:42
Badm4ncrimsun: what should i put on my apt/sourcelist to get update from ubuntu 6.00 ?08:42
mebaran151PeteyPablo, Ubuntu should run fine08:42
mebaran151what's the best IDE for C08:43
PeteyPablomebaran151: it does :-P08:43
richardtallentFirst time using Linux in 9 years, forgive my fogginess.08:43
lampshadePeteyPablo:  depends what you are doing but that is plenty fast enough to run Ubuntu08:43
polpakfreelove, fluxbox screenies08:43
mebaran151I recently got into C coding08:43
polpakfreelove, http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php08:43
lampshadeI run Ubuntu on like 533mhz boxes and it is fine08:43
PeteyPablolampshade: whats the min requirements for ubuntu?08:43
crimsunBadm4n: ...6.00?08:43
_SD_Keo|Lappy|That's sad, I can tell when something's going to crash by the hard-drive's thrash...08:43
crimsunBadm4n: do you mean TO 6.04?08:43
polpakPeteyPablo, depends on what you want to run08:43
Badm4ni mean dapper :d08:43
cozI run it on amd k7 50008:43
crimsunBadm4n: s/breezy/dapper/08:43
cozI think it's 50008:43
sampanpeteypablo  i have a p3 1gighrz with 356 ram and it runs ubuntu okay -- little slow but everything is fine for daily use08:43
MachineScrewminum requirements for Ubuntu is 400MHZ with 256 mb of ram08:43
mebaran151I run it on AMD64, I'm crazier than all of you08:44
richardtallentI'm using it on a 300MHZ Pentium II with 128MB of RAM. Pretty decent so far, but apps take time to load and boot times suck.08:44
PeteyPablosampan: is a 1ghz celeron faster, or 1ghz p3 ?08:44
cozamd 64 next step for me08:44
Badm4ni want to try dapper08:44
crimsungenerally a P308:44
PeteyPabloah.08:44
lampshadeaccording to the actual pressed cd's they send you it is 128mb ram08:44
Badm4nwhat should i put on my apt get source list08:44
cozBadman you cn download it now08:44
lampshadebut no mhz listed08:44
MachineScrewthough my gf uses it on a 266 mhz with 196 mb of ram using GNOME08:44
mebaran151coz, eh you probably don't need it08:44
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PeteyPablolampshade: i wouldn't want to run anything on 128mb08:44
intelikeyPeteyPablo dsl is a minimalist gui linux    you only need it on "old" machines.08:44
cafuegocoz: keep in mind you prolly want to run i386 code on that anyway,08:44
mebaran151only if you like to do a lot of src compile or encoding does it bring any benefits08:44
sampanpeteypablo  not sure -- but you'll have more ram for sure -- so less mem thrashing08:44
_SD_Keo|Lappy|mebaran151, what's the speed on that amd64?08:44
intelikeyit will run on anything just about08:45
cozwell I just sold my high end 64 bit08:45
mebaran1513500+ taht I think runs 2.2 Ghz08:45
cozmy nephew was angry but that's the way it goes08:45
PeteyPabloreason i ask is because i might be getting some old win98 machines soon and obviously i will not even boot into win98 ;-)08:45
coz but hear ubuntu on 64 is great08:45
cozNO?08:45
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lampshadeI've run Ubuntu on like 64 mb  it was fine for browsing the web with firefox08:45
_SD_Keo|Lappy|intelikey: Not true, I've had dsl crash up this laptop before.08:45
Coagim running ubuntu 64 bit08:45
richardtallentlampshade: I can agree with that... desperately wishing my laptop had 256MB.08:45
intelikey Mem usage: 32.7/61.1 MB (54%)08:45
cafuegocoz: No. A lot of stuff doesn't work well on 64bit.08:45
Coagand i honestly can't tell a differen :P08:45
cozlike what08:45
freelovehow do i get this nice panel thats here http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/elive-1.jpg.html08:45
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mebaran151Coag, try encoding08:45
cafuegocoz: java, flash, video.08:45
intelikeythat is with kde running right now PeteyPablo08:45
mebaran151you get 100 percent increase in speed08:45
MachineScrewmy girlfriend uses abiword and thunderbird removed openoffice and evolution08:45
PeteyPablothis machine is a p4 3ghz /w ht and 1gig ram it runs perfectly even with vmware running at all times (xp pro)08:46
allison_1984could anyone help me how to install macromedia flash on firefox/opera  ? thanks08:46
PeteyPabloi use gnome.08:46
mebaran151video runs now08:46
cozI see thats a bummer like being bakc on BeOS08:46
polpakubotu tell allison_1984 about flash08:46
cozwell actuall y worse08:46
richardtallentAnyone have an answer on OO 2.0? Is it on the way or will I be waiting on OO 2.01?08:46
PeteyPabloMachineScrew: abiword is much better then Open Office08:46
MachineScrewallison_1984, I used automatix to get flash working08:46
cafuegocoz: it's faster for encoding media, compiling, sql... stuff like that.08:46
cozautomatix rules08:46
polpak!automatix08:46
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!08:46
richardtallent(Have a conference next week, will be dong lots of spreadsheet work.)08:46
MachineScrewPeteyPablo, in speed ya08:46
Badm4nwhat should i put on my apt get source list to get update my breezy to dapper08:46
cafuegocoz: But honestly, most desktop users don't do much of that.08:46
cozWell I like what Ihave because most of my coents run 32 but systems08:46
PeteyPabloMachineScrew: i think it's better all around, any word processor that has a loading screen is no thanks.08:47
cozclients08:47
mebaran151Badm4n, every place you see a breezy08:47
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mebaran151replace it with dapper08:47
mebaran151wish me luck guys08:47
mebaran151I'm rebooting into dapper08:47
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Badm4nall rite08:47
mebaran151let's see if my network adapter works this time08:47
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allison_1984Machine> well, alright...will give it a shot08:47
cozcafuego Yess as I said most of my clients only run 32 bit systems08:47
mebaran151I only have a standard forcedeth, but last time it refused to dhcp08:47
MachineScrewwhat security guidelines dose automatix break ?08:47
polpakallison_1984, just follow the wiki08:47
cozautomatix is fine08:47
polpak!flash08:47
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats08:47
intelikeyPeteyPablo luck ?08:47
PeteyPablocan somone tell me how to map my windows key to launch an application of my choosing ?08:47
MachineScrewya the wiki is probly better08:48
PeteyPablointelikey: luck with?08:48
cozthere have people here who think it breaks their install but my experience is that there was hardware conflicts that were u nrecognixed intitally08:48
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asterickI really wish debootstrap was more... verbose.  I can't tell if it's doing anything at all. :/08:48
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polpakPeteyPablo, System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts08:48
allison_1984ok, thanks guys08:48
PeteyPablopolpak: thanks08:48
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intelikeyPeteyPablo nm  just noticed your post ^  PeteyPablo/#ubuntu *wishes luck*08:48
MachineScrew!FreeFormats08:48
ubotumethinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats08:48
PeteyPablointelikey: oh somone was going to try dapper and told us to wish them luck08:48
Badm4nanyone : if my dapper get failed .... the only one solution reinstall ?08:48
intelikeyah08:49
cozBadm4n Yess reinstall08:49
mebaran151Badm4n, or you could fix the bugs....08:49
astericktheere we go.08:49
crimsunasterick: --verbose08:49
Badm4n:D08:49
FlannelKingBadm4n, why did it 'fail'?08:49
polpakBadm4n, report the bugs, then reinstall08:49
asterickcrimsun: a little late... it's spamming my terminal now.08:49
cozit fialed because it is full of bugs08:49
freelovehow do i get this nice panel thats here http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/elive-1.jpg.html08:49
mebaran151coz, that's not failure, that's progress08:49
PeteyPablomy windows key now launches firefox08:49
PeteyPablo:-D!08:49
cozlol yeah yeah08:49
crimsunasterick: it's lovely how it already does what we ask, eh?08:50
asterickcrimsun: I just opened system monitor, and checked to see if it was downloading anything.08:50
Badm4nwhen it failed.. is my GRUB will still exist :D08:50
asterickcrimsun: definately. :D08:50
asterickI like it when things work like I expect them to.08:50
PeteyPablowhy did i wait so long to go to linux, god i hate windows now that i look back on it.08:50
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cozPeteyPablo well I still have to use windows08:50
polpakPeteyPablo, welcome to our beautiful new world =)08:51
PeteyPablocoz: really why ?08:51
PeteyPablopolpak: thanks08:51
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cozClients support08:51
MachineScrewso how can I convert video xvid and h.264 and rmvb to theora08:51
michaelreally noob type question. I just dloaded the firefox 1.5 tarball, how do i install it?08:51
cozand potoshotp and painter08:51
mebaran151why can't gnome-vfs be as cool as kioslaves and why is KDE so ugly....08:51
polpak!firefox1.508:51
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:51
cozmichael don't have to08:51
cafuegocoz: cxoffice runs fine on i386 :-)08:51
mebaran151rhetorical questions....08:51
cozcxoffice?08:51
richardtallentmichael: wiki page works great. just did it myself yesterday.08:52
michaelty08:52
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polpakmichael, but if you don't have a good reason you may just want to stick with 1.07 until dapper08:52
MachineScrewffmpeg2theroa08:52
michaeli want the extensions for it, how long till daper?08:53
PeteyPablopolpak: i updated. to ff 1.5 it works perfectly for me but i hear alot of people have problems08:53
intelikeymichael 6 0408:53
richardtallentAll: what's involved in upgrading to dapper? If it has FF1.5 and OO 2.0 final I'm interested in upgrading now if it's decently stable.08:53
polpakmichael, dapper is due to be released in april08:53
Badm4n564 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 220 not upgraded.08:53
Badm4n <-- lolz.... is this the correct ammount08:53
michaelsorry I'm such a noob to linux08:54
intelikeyor  04 ** 2006  if you like08:54
cozyess crossover office runs fine but NOT with photoshop08:54
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intelikeyfoto shop   heh08:54
asterickWee... This is all sorts of fun.08:54
cozLove photoshop08:55
polpak<3 GIMP08:55
cafuegocoz: Hmmm, yes it does.08:55
PeteyPablowhats the best linux torrent client?08:55
cozNO IT DOESN"T dude08:55
cafuegocoz: Yes, it REALLY does.08:55
MachineScrewAzureus08:55
asterickPetey: really depends on what you want.08:55
cozPlus I use adobe creative suite cannot run with crossover office08:55
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PeteyPabloazureus works but, the main area is all screwed up the text folds into each iother08:55
asterickPetety: Azureus is great if you're really ADD and like lots of charts and graphs.  Otherwise, standard works fine.08:55
polpakPeteyPablo, I believe one comes with ubuntu, but most ppl I know of prefer bittornado (sp?)08:55
PeteyPabloasterick: i do have ADD, not even add but ADHD08:56
garryHmmm, I don't see Octane back yet. executing res uname=Octane Now.08:56
cafuegocoz: Maybe I'm just imagining that i can run it, then.08:56
PeteyPablopolpak: yea.08:56
asterickPetey: you'll love azureus than.08:56
Octanegarry: im here :)08:56
PeteyPabloasterick: i'm using it now, and i used it on windows but the font is all screwed up08:56
cozcafuego I use the newest version of photoshop and a wacom tablet08:56
garryOctane ye so quiet or I"m so blind. hehe08:56
cozwacom tablets cannot be used under crossover08:56
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cafuegocoz: I never claimed CS3 worked. My Phsop 7 works just dandy.08:56
garrysay Octane did ye reboot and did it help?08:56
Octanegarry: just enjoying my relatively calm hard drive :)08:56
cozyes if you use a mouse08:56
asterickPetey: Welcome to the wonderful world of java cross-platform 'run-yourself-insane-anywhere' abilities.08:57
PeteyPabloOctane: :-)08:57
PeteyPabloasterick: lol08:57
Octaneya, i wanna say postfix service was causing the problem, but i dont know08:57
cafuegocoz: Yes, i threw my wacom table in the trash.08:57
cafuego+t08:57
mrtanookiwtf cafuego08:57
MachineScrewi have add but i uses it because its GTK2 complient and has more control than the standard08:57
MachineScrewI can't change the ports on gnome torrent08:57
garrywelcome back.08:57
cafuegopiec eof poo08:57
Octanethank ya!08:57
cozwell only use wacom tablet I ama doof with a mouse08:57
asterickI miss my wacom tablet. :(08:57
FlannelKingcoz, does the tablet not work at all? or does it just work in 'mouse mode'08:57
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polpakcoz the problem isn't photoshop under CXO the problem is drivers for the wacom08:57
cafuegocoz: Mind you, if you set X up with the tablet, it should work fine in cxoffice too.08:57
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MachineScrew!EasyUbuntu08:58
uboturumour has it, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu08:58
cozOK OK one at a time08:58
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asterickUng, it's 2am, I need to go to sleep. >_>08:58
cozwell no wacom tablet is real screwy under crossoever and it doens't work with corssover08:58
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cozI have enough trouble with it under gimp08:58
intelikeyOctane my hdd spins down because of apm  and if it should happen to start up without my having issued a command.  i know there is an intruder knocking on my box  :)08:58
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garrysleep ... precioussss?? what'sssss ssssleeep??08:58
PeteyPablointelikey: knocking on yoru box :-P08:59
Octaneintelikey: unfortunately because of these unknowns im very motivates to go back to windows after my 6 month haitus08:59
[nige] ;/clear08:59
mebaran151other than having to manually run ifconfig to set up my network adapter08:59
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mebaran151everything works08:59
[nige] sorry bout that08:59
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polpakOctane, windows isn't any better08:59
richardtallentSo there's no dapper alpha CD yet?08:59
mebaran151how do I make it automagically dhcp on boot08:59
Octanepolpak: ya but at least things like my treo and ipod will work much more flawlessly08:59
polpakOctane, if you have a tendancy to "accidentally" open ports you might want to install firestarter08:59
cozoctane windows is fine if you need it08:59
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garrymaybe time to install some sort of security stuff.08:59
Octanepolpak: i run guarddog08:59
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_nano_How do I remove CUPS and HP imaging process from the bootup?08:59
intelikeyPeteyPablo yeah  as in trying to access remotely08:59
PeteyPablointelikey: i figured :-)09:00
cozgarry if you are running thorugh a router no need for security features09:00
garrycoz, yep, I'm running through one myself.09:00
cozlke alinsys rougter alrady is running linux for secruity09:00
polpak_nano_, all your startup stuff is in /etc/init.d/rc5.d/09:00
cozthen it is already runnin a linux for security09:00
asterick"255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 80092 cylinders"  That's so pretty. :D09:00
Badm4ndamn.... i forgot about step by step to have my own rc.local :(( any one can give me the url ?09:00
mebaran151where is dhcp now09:00
_nano_polpak, thanks09:00
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intelikey_nano_ remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/  that starts cups09:01
cozAll the security settings will be in ther router lettings09:01
PeteyPablocoz: ?09:01
_nano_ok what's rc5.d and rc2.d lol09:01
mebaran151where is eth0 setup in the system09:01
intelikeypolpak runlevel 209:01
polpakintelikey, I don't think he's booting into runlevel 2 by default09:01
PeteyPablocoz: are you sayign linksys routers use linksys ?09:01
mebaran151for dapper09:01
cozrouters ususally ryn a linux as their os09:01
PeteyPablocoz: linux*09:01
PeteyPablothey do?09:01
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intelikeypolpak 2 is default09:01
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PeteyPablomust be one hell of a Damn smalllinux09:01
cozlynsys routers use a linux yes09:01
polpakintelikey, unless ubuntu is very different than what I'm used to.. (which apparently it is ;p)09:01
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cozit is linux that is running the router09:02
PeteyPabloi use a d-link switch i don't think it has an os09:02
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coza switch no a router yes09:02
PeteyPablosince their are no settings or firewall09:02
Jaredi hate DAMNSMALLLINUX09:02
polpakintelikey, is right.09:02
PeteyPabloJared: why09:02
garryyep, its DTL09:02
Jaredit is terrible...09:02
garrydamn tiny linux09:02
cozlinksys routes are accessed though the borwser with you rother address09:02
coz there are may settings in there09:03
PeteyPablocoz: yea i know09:03
cozOK sorry just call me doof09:03
intelikeyin fact i might well be the only one in here that is not in runlevel 2  :)09:03
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cozmaybe?!09:03
Jared.........hm.....i can't get my external harddrive to be a slave drive in my bios..hm...........anyone have any ideas09:03
PeteyPablointelikey: whats run level 2?09:03
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polpakJared, why is it nessicary?09:03
Jaredso i can boot linux from it09:04
Jaredi mean windows09:04
PeteyPablodamn small linux, 50 megabytes of penguin power!09:04
garryJared, My external firewire hard drive is seen as if it were usb, I expect the sme if that is a usb external drive.09:04
polpakJared, using GRUB?09:04
garrysdX#09:04
cozI ws running austrumi also 50 megabytes09:04
Jaredyes   grub09:04
_nano_polpak, i don't see any rc5.d in /etc/init.d/09:04
polpak_nano_, intelikey had the correct path09:05
_nano_polpak, ok09:05
Jaredwait polpak     do you mean on the harddrive09:05
polpak_nano_, ubuntu only has 2 runlevels09:05
garrythe rest are walklevels09:05
mebaran151where does dapper configure eth0 and dhcp09:05
cozdo any of them trot?09:05
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mebaran151I have a lot references to the nowdead hotplug09:05
garryhehe, Coz09:06
Jaredbrb09:06
mebaran151but I don't like having to manually dhclient it09:06
Jaredback09:06
cozsorry I quit smoking I am up and running maybe not funny but there it is09:06
polpakmebaran151, easiest place to configure it is system->administration->network09:06
Jaredwho in here hates belkin?MEEEE09:06
mebaran151polpak, the problem is that I think it wants to be started by hotplug09:06
cozI HATE BELKIN09:06
mebaran151I have to manually ifconfig it09:06
cozfor good reason09:07
coztheir pro line is mid range consumer09:07
cozwith high end prices09:07
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polpakmebaran151, you can manually config it via networking afaik and/or disable it depending on what you're trying to do09:07
mebaran151polpak09:07
Jaredbelkin has the worst customer support.......AND IT SUCK WITH PORT FOWARDING09:07
mebaran151everytime I boot I have to do this09:07
cozJared it is a sucky company09:07
mebaran151ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth009:07
intelikeyPeteyPablo the default runlevel in ubuntu linux     the runlevels define the way the system works using /etc/init.d/<scripts>   runlevel 1 is single user mode   in ubuntu 2-5 are by default all alike    6 is reboot 0 is power off  and S is startup.  if you customize a runlevel then use  'sudo init # '  where # is the particular runlevel it will read in your special configuration scripts.   the default runlevel is set in /et09:07
mebaran151otherwise eth0 fails to appear09:07
Badm4ndamn.... i forgot about step by step to have my own rc.local :(( any one can give me the url ?09:07
Jared....i can't get it to foward my apache webserver09:07
Jaredat all09:07
polpakmebaran151, did you go into system->administration->network ?09:08
PeteyPablointelikey: i see, thanks09:08
mebaran151yeah09:08
mebaran151it works now09:08
mebaran151but each time I boot, I have to do that09:08
mebaran151it must be somewhere in the start up scripts09:08
garryBelkin the microsoft bob of hardware.09:08
PeteyPablointelikey: in your opinion what is the best server OS, FreeBSD ?09:08
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cozwoah I like mocrsoft bob I have several copies09:08
sportmankidFreeBSD09:08
polpakmebaran151, it is, but the startup scripts are controlled by that menu09:08
garryoops my bad09:08
mebaran151yeah09:08
mebaran151ok it's set09:08
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mebaran151I'm now going to rebbot09:08
intelikeyPeteyPablo i must defer that question to those that know.  i am network illiterate.09:09
PeteyPablointelikey: ok09:09
Jaredcoz.......have you a belkin router?:(09:09
cozi am gald to see evreyones tiyng is as good as mnie09:09
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sowdogbye folks09:09
PeteyPablowow dsl is built off debian also09:09
PeteyPabloi didn't know that.09:09
cozJared no linksys09:09
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Jaredbelkin REFUSES to port foward through 8009:10
SillyZmorning, quick q: how do I remove the ntp sync attempt from the boot startup ?09:10
polpakPeteyPablo, I've used FreeBSD and linux for enterprise level servers.. I prefer Linux09:10
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cozjared save up the few extra bucks and get a linksys09:10
PeteyPablopolpak: really? i have a shell account to a high speed FreeBSD server it seems to be very godo09:10
cozthe company has been bought by 3com the best of all of them09:10
cozit is a good router09:10
Jaredwhat do you think about netgear09:10
Jared?09:10
coznetgear second class09:10
Jaredwell i would" return this belkin i have butttt..........it is too old09:10
dortolinksys first class :)09:10
Dashivai've never had netgear problems09:11
cozlynksys is the way to go for an economic but pretty high end router09:11
PeteyPabloD-link is the best ;-P09:11
polpakPeteyPablo, it's pretty good.. But stuff you'd normally take for granted (SMP kernels etc) have to be specially configured etc09:11
Dashivabut i've had a crapload of linksys problems09:11
cozD-Link??09:11
PeteyPablopolpak: i see09:11
Jaredcoz do you have apache through linksys?09:11
MachineScrewI have a belkin the Linksys I had had way to many problems09:11
cozNo I don't yet I haen't installed that because My clinets don't use it sao idon't need to support it YET09:11
MachineScrewmade my cable connecton like a 28.8bps modem09:11
PeteyPablopolpak: do you know about that load balancer thing that is available? i want to run freebsd on some older pcs with that program so it will be somewhat fast ;-P09:11
Jaredokay...i wanted a report09:11
cozsoory guy09:12
Jaredhow bout anything else09:12
Jaredfor servers?09:12
cozdamn fingers I was going to make a new years resolution to type better but I decided to qwit smoking09:12
garryI know what the best router for me is. The one that works and keeps the hackers out.09:12
Jaredor just port fowarding in general and is it good for customization09:12
SillyZQ: how do I remove the ntp sync attempt from the startup of ubuntu ?09:12
cozgarry there you go09:12
polpakPeteyPablo, you mean clustering? The only load balancing I have any experience with is ServerIrons.. And those are not really what you'd be looking for (about 100k USD)09:13
Jaredi am a good typer for an eleven year old....yes i am the youngest ubuntu user in the chat09:13
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cozJsred how old09:13
PeteyPablopolpak: it's some open source thing09:13
Jaredi am eleven09:13
cozNo way dude?09:13
Jaredi swear09:13
cozwhat time is it where you live09:13
PeteyPablopolpak: http://plb.sunsite.dk/09:13
Jaredi will prove...pm me your email and i will send u a pic...it is 2:13 am09:13
intelikeycoz remember this is   IRC  where men are men,   and women are men,  and children are FBI agents.....09:14
polpak..... #ubuntu-offtopic pls09:14
cozdon't you have school tomorrow????09:14
cozlol lol09:14
cozlol09:14
garryLoL09:14
cozMy nephew says that all the time09:14
PeteyPabloi'm 1709:14
PeteyPabloand i'm off09:14
Jaredno i am out...i go back wednesday09:14
PeteyPablo;-P09:14
cafuegoor #teendating09:14
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cozI am 5409:14
PeteyPabloor #gayteen09:14
PeteyPablolOL09:14
mebaran151tiny pet peeve, but in dapper, my clock isn't being sync'ed09:14
rungehi. how do you get back a configure screen that you get installing a package? (pam-ldap asks for ipadres etc, I want to redo that part)09:15
cozmebaran151 thats because dapper has many many bugs right now09:15
Jaredcoz...you aer 54....seriouslly09:15
cozJared 5409:15
mebaran151coz, yeah, I know09:15
ajmitchJared, coz: just drop it :P09:15
mebaran151but this is a really minor bug09:15
cozYes lets dropit09:15
mebaran151all the time I ran ArchLinux, I could never get ntp to work09:15
Jared....drop what.....:)09:15
intelikey PeteyPablo/#ubuntu *wishes luck*09:15
intelikeyoops wrong buffer09:16
cozage doesn't matter with computers that is one of the many beuties09:16
PeteyPablointelikey: hahah!09:16
cozbeauties09:16
garryI remember telling someone how I had avoided car accidents by not looking at the accident. I said every time I saw an accident, another was about to happen about fifty feet away. He said ye mean stupidity comes in pairs like president and vice presidents?09:16
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cozubuntu-jokers09:16
Jaredtrue.........09:16
SillyZnm, found it09:17
Jaredi love computer....i am more software than hardware09:17
cozno age limit, ethinic limit, no linits of any kind that i can see09:17
wizardjamesfor phpmyadmin,   what are some things i should do to make it so that just not anyone can view the login page..    like, have a login page to get to the login page?..09:17
Jaredi have a technician class ham radio liscense09:17
vilefridgeHello :)  If I mount a drive and apply changes to a file, if I reboot, should these changes stay intact?  (I did this and they dissapeared..?)09:17
SillyZJared: your a tech, ... general here09:17
Jaredreally whats the qth dude09:17
cozvilefridge yes if you unmounted the drive first09:17
intelikeynow mebaran151 i put this in a script and run it when i want to sync my clock.  you could run it as a cron job.  ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc       and sudo those if you run it as user09:17
SillyZen10qu :)09:17
SillyZlincoln, ne09:17
garryextra here. Extra means all my brain cells were fried. :)09:18
Jaredne?09:18
vilefridgecoz: unmounted.. nope didn't do that :P09:18
SillyZnebraska, usa09:18
cozwell that can happen in ubuntu09:18
Jaredkewl.....you have echolink?09:18
Jaredi am working for my general09:18
cozunmount first give it a few seconds then rebott better 30 seconds09:18
SillyZaye we have a node here09:18
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garrysudo unmount brain.self ... Error object not found!09:18
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Jaredi will meet you on echolink when my uncle gets off the windows machine.....KEWL?09:19
garryer umount09:19
SillyZI dont have a 2m rig in the house, its in the car, so cant access it09:19
Jaredthat general test is a killer for me......gah i have had problems with the frequencies and bands......ugh09:19
mebaran151and also09:19
mebaran151anjuta doesn't want to start up anymore09:19
SillyZgo pmsg if ya would jared09:19
michaeldamn, updating firfoxnot a quick task :)09:19
michaelgood practice for a noob though09:20
michaelgnight all09:20
garrygnight09:20
Jaredsilly i am in pm......u there?09:20
cozmichael good night guy09:20
cozhappy new year09:20
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JaredSillyZ are you in pmsg09:21
SillyZjared: Join #sillyz09:21
Jaredah...09:21
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cozBefore I forget HAPPY NEW YEAR To all of you . Hope it brings what you need09:21
vilefridgecoz: Ok, I figured out what was going on.  The changes were infact saved without unmounting, however there's two files menu.lst and menu.lst~  What does the ~ indicate?  Should I be editing both?09:21
mebaran151ok it's a duplicated bug09:21
polpakvilefridge, the ~ one is probably a backup or an autosave09:22
cozvilefridge Good question I am not sure can someone here help this guy09:22
cozthere you go09:22
polpakvilefridge, you don't need it09:22
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vilefridgecoz, polpak: alright, i'll delete the ~ copy =) Thanks!09:22
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cozshouldn't have to edit anything when you savbe to drive09:22
cozsave09:23
salutishello all09:23
cozsorry for my fingers09:23
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cozhappy new year shining09:23
cozhappy new year salutis09:24
kyohi...09:24
cozhappy new year kyo09:24
salutiscoz, thanks for you too :)09:24
mebaran151if I compile anjuta by hand, how do I make sure dpkg doesn't make it die the next time I upgrade09:24
salutishappy new year for all09:24
timfrostvilefridge, polpak, confirm some editors use '~' as suffix for their backup files09:24
garryisn't there a blacklist for dpkg?09:25
cozi was reading an article or two about the pros and cons between rpm and .deb but I cannot remember the author09:25
cozhas onayone here read any of these articles?09:26
kyomoshi moshi.09:26
kyoyes09:26
vilefridgetimfrost: thanks for the info =)09:26
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cozhas anyone here tried gruler or gnome colorscheme09:27
kyohi, I'm here..............09:28
cozHi kyo happy new year09:28
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timfrostmebaran151, If you package your version, it is possible to pin it.  But that means that related packages may not be correctly updated09:28
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kyohappy new year too. how are you?09:29
mebaran151timfrost, that's what I thought09:29
cozI am well kyo and yourself?09:29
mebaran151I'll just have to convince the dev's to upload the new bugfixed one09:29
salutisrm -f 2005; touch 2006 :)09:29
SillyZtail -f 2005 :)09:30
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cozkyo are you runningubuntu?09:30
cozrunning ubuntu09:30
kyol'm pretty well. where are you now? l'm in lndonesia. And you?09:30
macximianany one care to help a mac user with ubuntu and local network filesharing09:30
cozI am in the US09:30
macximianI can't see my ubuntu machine on the network09:31
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PeteyPablohow do i save a scan in XSANE ?09:31
cozmacximian I am ther wrong person to ask about this I don't use mac anymore09:31
macximianhow di change the workgroup on my ubuntu machine to match what is on my mac09:31
cozBUT someone hwere should be able to help09:32
cozif not go to ubuntuforums channel09:32
macximianthx coz09:32
mebaran151ok dapper isn't as unstable as you guys said it would be09:32
mebaran151so far it's a good beta09:32
cozhappy new year maczimian09:32
cozmacximian09:32
mebaran151I'm just going to pray no dev decides to rewrite Xorg in basic or something09:32
macximianthanksk coz you too09:33
cozsorry my fnigres don't wrok rgiht09:33
kyohiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. any body home............09:34
mebaran151why does mplayer always complain that that /dev/rtc is not setup right?09:34
mebaran151is it a big deal?09:34
TranceRiver|awayWill http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315041 work well with ubuntu?09:34
cozDid you konw that if you keep the frist and lsat letetrs of ecah wrod in it plcae, that the snetnec can sitll be raed esaily?09:35
garrybecause the dev/rtc is now converted to basic in dapper.09:35
mebaran151haha09:35
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kyohihi09:36
cozWell good people, I am going to be hope the new year brings us all what we need most HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!09:36
PeteyPablodamn xsane is cool09:36
timfrostcoz, same to you09:36
cozI am going to bed I wish i could type as well as i sleep09:36
cozNight all09:36
macximiannite09:36
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kyoihiohisoijoiajs09:38
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kyoyupyupyup09:38
ajmitchkyo: stop it please09:39
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garrykill -9 it09:39
kyooh, l'm really sorry09:39
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macximianannnyybooody eeelse  here kkkknnow  abouut localll nettwork fillle         shariiiing09:40
Sturgeonyyyyeeesssss09:40
Coaglllllloooolllllll09:40
SillyZrofl09:40
Coagmight want to fix your keyboard macximian09:40
kyoku tak bisa jauh-jauh darimu.09:41
macximiananddd misssss   all   thhhe joookes? lol09:41
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kyoanata wa donata desu ka.09:41
macximiankkkeeeyboard onnnllly   doees thiiis wwwhhen i  am   siing desktttoop sharinng09:42
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garrytry kbdrate -r 10 -d 100009:43
rjordanmacximian, It's called lag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag09:43
macximiani turned off keyboard repeating. don't need it anyways09:43
garryhmmm.09:43
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numberandomI just installed breezy on a system and have been unable to get in on my home network, ive tried dhcp and manually setting up the address, and even another network card --any ideas?09:44
macximianok now that my typing is actually readable. Anybody care to help me with my network problems.09:45
jonny2dhi anyone know a good alternative for colorzilla (for firefox), for ubuntu?09:45
macximianI am unable to get NFS to work. Get the error message that it can't read the NFS configuration file09:45
rjordanmacximian, What kind of trouble?09:45
Seveasmacximian, then create it :)09:45
rjordanoh09:45
Seveasmacximian, it's called /etc/exports09:45
macximianand how do i do that09:45
Seveassudo nano /etc/exports09:46
Seveasand in another terminal: man exports09:46
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kyopernah berpikir tuk pergi dan terlintas tinggalkan kau sendiri. sempat ingin sudahi sampai di sini coba lari dari kenyataan tapi,09:48
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bakpaotest09:48
jonny2dcan anyone suggest a color picker program?09:48
macximiandoesn't really help much :/09:49
cafuego!id09:49
ubotujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia09:49
PeteyPablome llamo pedro09:50
PeteyPablo;-)09:50
Kr0ntabvote for Pedro09:50
cafuegoJa, da's fijn voor je09:50
bakpaomacximian : http://nfs.sourceforge.net/09:50
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cafuegoHmmm09:51
=== cafuego has Teh Gibson as desktop background now
CoagThe Gibson that get's h4ck3d?09:52
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cafuegoThe very same09:52
bakpao!de09:52
uboturumour has it, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de09:52
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Coagi can honestly say I've never see this gibson09:52
igaaaHi, does anyone know where I can find beep media player's skins ?09:53
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mejdeHas anyone had any troule with copying files from client to server via NFS taking 100% of the clients cpu and getting very low transfer rates? (server->client is fast and doesn't take much cpu)09:54
Coag1google09:54
Coag!google09:54
ubotusomebody said google was a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.09:54
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Coagerr09:54
kyojuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttttttttttttt09:54
Benjamin_Lany chance we'll see php 5.11 and apache 2.2 in dapper ?09:54
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Coag!tell igaaa about google09:55
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hunikaSomebody can help to me09:55
bakpao!help09:55
henrywhat help is needed09:55
cafuegoCoag: http://www.cafuego.net/i/Gibson.jpg09:55
hunikaI use Kubuntu, but I downloaded Gnoppix for a test09:56
hunikaHow can I access my drives in Goppix?09:56
hunikaGnoppix?09:56
igaaaok ! ;)09:56
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mrtanookiko catra do se krino do na cpacu le djica09:56
hunikais it posibble?09:56
deFryskhunika, /j #gnopppix ?09:56
hunikaok09:56
Coagcafuego: very nice09:56
numberandomanyone have any idea why my new install wont snag a DHCP lease? the ethernet cable is plugged in and the DHCP server is definitely working.09:56
deFrysknumberandom, dapper-drake ?09:57
edwardsmhello, i was hoping someone could help me connect my external usb hard drive to ubuntu09:57
macximianhow do i change the "workgroup name"09:57
henryanyone using ATI all in wonder vid card with ubuntu?09:57
numberandomnope, breezy09:57
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PeteyPabloanyone know how to view offline buddies in gaim?09:58
hunikaHow can I access / mount my hard drive in Gnoppix.09:58
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deFryskhunika, ask in some gnoppix forum or whatever09:58
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deFryskhunika, this is ubuntu09:59
lampshadePeteyPablo:  there is a menu for it09:59
lampshadelike under Buddie09:59
lampshades09:59
PeteyPablolampshade: i found it thanks09:59
hunikadeFrysk: than say to me how do I do that in Gnome09:59
bakpaonumberrandom : look at /etc/network/interfaces09:59
bakpaonumberrandom : is it "iface eth0 inet static" ?09:59
deFryskhunika, ask in #gnome09:59
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numberandom"iface eth0 inet dhcp"09:59
hunikadeFrysk: why can not you just simply tell to me if you know09:59
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edwardsmwhere do i begin troubleshooting the inability to access an external hard drive?10:00
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deFryskhunika, with a gnoppix question you are off topic here10:00
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salutishow i install samba to 5.10?10:00
eric_someone told me about a program that will automatically clean out temp files, but I can't remember what the name was, does anyone know what the name is10:00
hunikadeFrysk: Gnoppix is based on UBUNTU and does not have a channel. anyway how do I mount devices in GNOME- in system or where?10:01
deFryskhunika, not with a gnoppix-cd10:01
thoreauputichunika: try "Computer" in nautilus10:01
numberandom"ifdown -a" , then "ifup -a" gives me the output of DHCPDISCOVER, which cant find any leases10:01
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rjordannumberandom, Then you want to make sure that ifconfig eth0 shows that your link is active and also that other systems on your network can pull a new dhcp lease.10:02
edwardsm/10:03
macximiananyone know where to change the "workgroup" name10:03
rjordanin your smb.conf10:03
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edwardsmrjonmastes,10:03
macximianthanks.. where is that located?10:03
thoreauputicdeFrysk: he was right - gnoppix is based on Ubuntu - I missed the beginning ofthe conversation: why were you so definite that he was off topic?10:03
numberandomi am definitely able to pull leases with other computers, and ifconfig eth0 tells me "Link encap:Ethernet" so its plugged in10:04
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numberandomI'll try a live cd, to see if somehow my install was botched10:04
rjordanin /etc/samba/smb.conf10:04
numberandomthats all I can think of10:04
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macximianthanks10:05
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deFryskthoreauputic, i was not aware of the fact gnoppix was ubuntu-based10:05
rjordannumberandom, what do you have for media state in ifconfig eth0?10:05
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thoreauputicdeFrysk: hmm - well he's gone to #kubuntu now10:06
DAandoes someone know why my mastervolume in ubuntu doesn't change my pcm volume?10:06
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numberandomim trying the live cd real quick...10:07
rjordanDAan, turning down master will turn down pcm but turning down pcm will not turn down others like line-out...10:07
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DAanyes10:08
DAanbut master doesn't turn down pcm10:08
DAannothing happens10:08
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rjordanBS10:08
vilefridgeHello :)  I just created a software RAID 1 configuration with (2) 80GB SATA drives.  I'm trying to configure the GRUB boot loader menu, but I'm not sure which (hd#,#) my RAID is.  Is there some way to view the partitions?10:09
Coagdpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)10:10
Coag:/10:10
salutisi cou'd install bind in 5.10, why?10:10
salutisHowever the following packages replace it:10:10
salutis  dnsutils10:10
salutisE: Package bind has no installation candidate10:10
Irvinehow to install licq?10:11
thoreauputicsalutis: so install dnsutils10:11
edwardsm#can anyone see me typing?10:11
DAanyes10:11
macximianok i have the file open (smb.conf) but don't see where it specifies the name of the "workgroup"10:11
vilefridgeedwardsm: yes10:11
edwardsmsweet10:11
salutisi have installed dnsutils, but /etc/bind not exist :(10:11
napstar567hey macximian10:12
edwardsmanyone have any idea where i should  begin troubleshooting the inability to access an external hard drive?10:12
macximianyup napstar56710:12
napstar567u still having problems with samba10:13
napstar567?10:13
macximianyeah10:13
napstar567go to system10:13
thoreauputicsalutis: I haven't used bind - perhaps you have to create /etc/bind ( I don't know)10:13
macximiani have smb.conf open but don't see where to specify the "workgroup" name10:13
salutisbut bind is not installed :(10:13
napstar567>administrator>shared folders10:13
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thoreauputicsalutis: man bind  is a start I guess10:13
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Xer0_h4xOMG10:13
Xer0_h4xhello everyone...10:14
Xer0_h4x:)10:14
salutisNo manual entry for bind10:14
edwardsmit shows up in system > administration > disks10:14
thoreauputicsalutis: hmm10:14
Xer0_h4xfine...10:14
macximianhmmm i dont seem to have that10:14
Xer0_h4xthe hello there package?10:15
napstar567awhh10:15
Xer0_h4xno one els has it dont worry10:15
napstar567!!10:15
ubotu??10:15
thoreauputicsalutis:  if you type    dpkg -L dnsutils   you should see what files it installed10:15
napstar567hey what version r u running10:15
napstar567?10:15
macximianbreezy10:15
edwardsmthough the "access path" currently reads 'none'10:15
salutis/usr/bin10:15
salutis/usr/bin/dig10:15
salutis/usr/bin/nslookup10:15
salutis/usr/bin/nsupdate10:15
salutisand documentation10:15
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mejdeanyone using nfs at all? :)10:16
thoreauputicsalutis: do *not* paste here !!10:16
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napstar567so did u check out shared folders10:16
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salutisok ok10:16
macximianmine doesn't work mejde sorry10:16
xoredwhere are the "sessions" of kde/xfce saved ? they are not deleted anmore, so my list  is endless. I would like to do it manually10:17
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edwardsmif your talking to me about shared folders...yes, though it prompts me to install smb or nfs10:17
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concept10anyone want free computer science education?10:17
thoreauputicmejde: try asking your question10:17
mejdethoreauputic: I already did10:17
DAanyes10:17
jeff_can someone help me. please look at http://keyboard.hanzjordan.fastmail.fm/Keyboardv108.prc and tell me what kind of editor i need to view/edit it. please!10:17
napstar567do: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf10:18
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mejdethoreauputic: copying via nfs takes 100% cpu and is slow client->server but fast server->client10:18
macximiani already have smb.conf open but couldn't see where to specify the workgroup name10:18
smajchlin global section10:18
thoreauputicmejde: do you have portmap installed?10:18
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napstar567its like the first line10:18
napstar567?10:18
mejdethoreauputic: yes10:18
macximiani saw the comments for it what exsactly does it want10:19
concept10help me out, digg this story, this is great stuff: http://digg.com/users/concept10/submitted this is great stuff10:19
macximianshould it be workgroup=blah or what10:19
smajchlj10:19
thoreauputicmejde: well, it is likely a configuration problem - did you follow a howto on setting up nfs ?10:19
napstar567exactly10:19
Irvinehow to download applications by using wget?10:19
ajmitchconcept10: don't do that :P10:20
napstar567the default value is MSHOME10:20
concept10ajmitch, that is a great resource10:20
ajmitchand spamming urls in here really irritates people, ok?10:20
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macximianmine is specifying anything10:20
napstar567SO IF YOU HAVE NEVER CONFIGURED IT BEFORE IT SHOULD BE10:21
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macximianuh isn't i mean10:21
napstar567WORKGROUP= MSHOME10:21
macximianthe line is completely empty10:21
concept10ajmitch, thats no spam10:21
thoreauputicmejde:  I found this helpful ->> http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/10:21
napstar567JUST PUT IT THERE10:21
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thoreauputicnapstar567: stop it with the caps10:21
salutisthoreauputic, ok - bind work10:22
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ajmitchconcept10: it is, and I don't really feel like arguing it now10:22
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napstar567workgroup=your_workgroup10:22
nofearhey where can i get a plugin so i can play mp3's on Rhythmbox 0.8.8?10:22
concept10ajmitch, how is that spam?  im sharing something great I found, I want everyone to know about it10:22
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thoreauputic!tell nofear about restricted10:22
ajmitchconcept10: unrelated to ubuntu, off-topic, etc10:23
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mejdethoreauputic: thanks, I think I've already read it but I'll look through it again10:24
nofearok so it's illigal to play mp3's in thythmbox?10:24
nofearbut not xmms?10:24
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concept10ajmitch, maybe youre right but, it is such a resource, I just wanted to share, no harm intended10:25
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mejdethoreauputic: do you have nfs working... and no problems with transfering large files?10:25
freedomhttp://infowars.com/images2/daily/mouse_brain.jpg <- this is where we're headed as a race -- total human enslavement!, unless we get off the couch and get educated.10:25
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thoreauputicmejde: nfs can be a tricky thing to set up - just one mistake and nothing works right :)  But once it's up it works very well . yes i have nfs with no problems here10:25
TranceRiver|awayDoes anyone own a WRT54G and do they know if it likes ubuntu?10:25
macximiannapstar567:  okay i added workgroup=   do i need to restart or anything10:26
GTroywhat's the ubuntu off topic channel?10:26
GTroyI'd go there to ask, but....10:26
mejdethoreauputic: I've never had this much problems with it before though ;)10:26
macximianTranceRiver|away: I have a WRT54GC and as you can see work fine10:26
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thoreauputicnofear: you can play mp3 with rhythmbox - just sudo apt-et install gstreamer0.8-mad10:26
TranceRiverThe C just means compact?10:26
GTroy!off topic10:26
ubotuNot a clue, GTroy10:26
nofearok thanks10:27
GTroy!ubuntu off topic10:27
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, GTroy10:27
wizardjameswere do i download the lastest verion of mysql?10:27
macximiancorrect10:27
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Tobbe|livecdHi. I have two 200gb sata disks (and one 80gb sata). In windows the two 200gb disks appears as one disk because I have them raided with raid1. But in Ubuntu I them as sepperate drives. Why is that?10:27
concept10!paste10:27
ubotuI heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:27
thoreauputicGTroy:  /j #ubuntu-offtopic10:27
GTroythoreauputic: thanks10:28
thoreauputicnp :)10:28
johndarkhorseGTroy: it's !offtopic10:28
sportmankidhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=584940267210:28
phreak97has anyone got some time to help me out setting up my tv with ubuntu? (geforce 4 mx 440)10:28
macximianit has no external antennae10:28
nofearE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad10:28
nofearhmm, i guess its not in the packages of horay10:28
macximianif i was gonna buy a nother router i would buy the wrt54GC10:29
thoreauputicnofear: you need universe10:29
Irvinehow to install java?10:29
TranceRiverOkay.10:29
thoreauputic!sources10:29
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:29
wizardjamesTobbe|livecd,   , its becasue your 2 disks, are software raided ..   u would need a hardware to raid them for them to work in ubuntu....  or u could just rebuild the arry10:29
TranceRiverWhat wireless adapter do y ou have?10:29
thoreauputic!nfo gstreamer0.8-mad10:29
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, thoreauputic10:29
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thoreauputichah10:29
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nofearah duh me lol trying again10:29
TranceRiverI hear it can be a bit of a hassle to get wireless working with ubuntu.10:29
thoreauputic!info gstreamer0.8-mad10:29
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB10:29
Irvinehow to install java?10:29
wizardjamesIrvine, ,   http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03s02.html10:29
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vilefridgeHas anyone here re-installed GRUB from the Install CD before?  I've been reading a how-to describing how to do this, but selecting install GRUB or Lilo takes me right back to the partitioner.. what am I doing wrong?10:30
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TranceRiverDoes anyone know if the EDIMAX EW-7128G wireless adapter will work well with ubuntu?10:31
nofearthanks works like a charm :)10:31
TranceRiverhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315041 here's the link to it10:31
pipintimfrost, Not sure why, because I had done this previously, but apt-get update --fix-missing seemed to do the trick. Not sure about this Linux stuff, but it's fun.10:31
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thoreauputicnofear: no worries :)10:33
liableTranceRiver: you are better off looking at the output of lspci and googling10:33
Irvinewizardjames,how to install downloader for x?10:33
Tobbe|livecdwizardjames, but I have them connected to the raid controler on my motherboard, I thought that would be hardware raid? Or do you need some kind of raid controler even if you're only doing software raid?10:33
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thoreauputicnofear: I strongly suggest reading and following the RestrictedFormats wiki -lots of good info there on multimedia10:34
nofearHey is there a place online i could buy a dvd player software for linux?10:34
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thoreauputic!dvd10:34
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:34
nofearYeah, I was having problems with the site that bot gave me10:34
nofearwasnt letting me vew10:34
nofearview*10:34
pinucsetrpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.10:34
pinucseterror: cannot open Packages index using db3 - El fitxer o directori no existeix (2)10:34
pinucseterror: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm10:34
pinucsetDone...10:34
pinucsetone think, i'm trying to install catalan language pack for my openoffice 2 and it says:10:34
thoreauputicpinucset: why are you using rpm ?10:35
TranceRiverliable: it's RT2500 and I've read that it works.10:35
TranceRiverSo yay!10:35
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nofearbrb10:35
nofearits my firefox thats messed LOL10:35
Irvinehow to install downloader for x?10:35
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wizardjamesTobbe|livecd,  i am not sure ,10:35
Seveasirvin, apt-get install d4x10:36
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thierryhi all10:36
wizardjamesIrvine,    sudo apt-get install d4x10:36
wizardjamesblash, i am slow Seveas  beats me10:37
thoreauputicpinucset: if you insiat on using rpm, convert the rpm to deb with the alien utility ( sudo apt-get install alien)10:37
thoreauputicwizardjames: he beats most of us, most of the time ;)10:37
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sobersabrehello, guys. I have an amd64 system. I want to use skype. how do I do this ?10:38
thierryI am looking for a picture utility, that would be able to do slideshow of "best of" images. I explain: I have in a directory let's sya 100 images, with a bestof.txt file containing a list of 20 filenames that are my prefered images. What would you advise as a Gnome/Ubuntu utility ?10:38
phreak97is there a google search toolbar panel?10:38
phreak97which i can get10:38
liableTranceRiver: i believe theres drivers on sourceforge for those chipsets10:38
thoreauputicsobersabre: I think you would need a 32 bit chroot ( I don't run amd64)10:39
sobersabrephreak97, maybe there's a gnome desklet of this sort.10:39
sobersabrethoreauputic, sounds horrible10:39
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phreak97dont know where i'd get it?10:39
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Tobbe|livecdI have this motherboard: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=14&l3=66&model=232&modelmenu=1 (it's an asus k8n-e delux motherboard). Can anyone tell if it does hardware raid1?10:39
sobersabrephreak97, are you on a fast internet ?10:39
TranceRiverAlso. I just bought a computer today for linux. It was 100 dollars for a 933 P3, 20GB hard drive, 256mb ram, 15 inch monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Will this run ubuntu fairly well, and was this an okay purchase?10:40
TranceRiverIt's a gateway, not that it makes a difference.10:40
sobersabreTobbe|livecd,  what is the raid controller's chipset ?10:40
thoreauputicTranceRiver: should work fine10:40
pinucsetthoreauputic the trouble is that the language is a .sh :S not a .rpm :S10:40
phreak97sobersabre,  average10:40
phreak97why?10:40
TranceRiverOkay, sweet. Install breezy, right?10:40
polpakthierry: I'd suggest making a new directory, and using symlinking to link the best-of files into the new dir and use gthumb or eog on that directory10:40
phreak97theres some google stuff in symantic10:40
Irvinewizardjames,how to run d4x?10:41
thoreauputicpinucset: if it's a.sh you probably run it  ( like ./foo.sh )10:41
sobersabrephreak97, I mean on a broadband connection or analog modem ?!10:41
thoreauputicpinucset: you might need chmod +x foo.sh first10:41
Tobbe|livecdsobersabre, some silicon image chipset10:41
sobersabreTranceRiver, if you're playing maybe you even can try drapper or daper... I don't remember the name10:41
Tobbe|livecdSil 311410:41
polpakthierry: you could even script it if you were feeling industrious, to use the txt file to make the symlinks10:41
phreak97synaptic* im running on low sleep10:42
polpaksobersabre: dapper10:42
thoreauputicpinucset: or you can try just   "  sh /path/to/foo.sh  "10:42
TranceRiverWhat's dapper?10:42
wizardjamesIrvine,  , its in applactions..  > net10:42
sobersabreTobbe|livecd, then it will work, for 'some extent' like any other 'some chipset'10:42
polpak!dapper10:42
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake10:42
phreak97sobersabre, 512k dsl10:42
sobersabrephreak97, use apt-get/synaptic then10:42
sobersabresearch for 'desklet' keyword10:42
polpakTranceRiver: dapper won't be released until april10:42
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wizardjameshow do i update phpmyadmin, mysql, apache..   stuff like that?10:43
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TranceRiverOkay, so then how would I try it if it's not going to be released til' April?10:43
TranceRiverOr would it be dapper beta?10:43
polpakTranceRiver: it's in beta now10:43
TranceRiverOkay, I'd rather stick to a solid release.10:43
Tobbe|livecdsobersabre, this is the chipset: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/sil-3114.html10:43
numberandomwhat does it mean when you cant get networking going on any of 3 network cards (including onboard) with breezy, and knoppix won't work either?10:43
sobersabrepolpak, some people that don't work but rather play, or are payed for this - use betas.10:43
polpakTranceRiver: I'd suggest going with Breezy unless you're very familiar with linux and enjoy debugging10:43
numberandombad hardware?10:44
TranceRiverOkay.10:44
Irvinewizardjames,no it is not in applications>internet10:44
sobersabreTobbe|livecd, let's put it this way: have you looked at any google accessible hardware compatibility lists for this RAID ?10:44
phreak97sobersabre, i am:)10:44
wizardjamesirvin,  ,  net = internet , sorry for the missunderstnading10:44
nofearis it possible to upgrade to breezy from a lower distro ?10:44
phreak97what i really need help with is configuring my tv10:44
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polpaknofear: yes10:45
irvingeez guys10:45
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thoreauputic!tell no fear about breezy10:45
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wizardjamessorry irvin ,   your name is ..  just 1 off10:45
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nofearthere a site i can read up on how to do that?10:45
sobersabrephreak97, is this your 1st virgin experience with linux ?10:45
polpaknofear: ubotu just msged you10:45
thoreauputic!breezy10:45
nofearno he didnt10:45
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:45
phreak97sobersabre, pretty much10:45
clinfixI cant find the PATH variable, where is it located?10:46
nofearhe told no10:46
nofear:P10:46
thoreauputicnofear: then you aren't registerd with nickserv10:46
thierrypolpak: (sorry the phone) irfanview, my W$ tool, was able to do slideshow from any text file, and I was looking for something with W$ compatibility (I doubt about ln -s in W$)10:46
sobersabrephreak97, then you don't want dapper10:46
thoreauputic*registered10:46
sobersabreuse breezy badger, and enjoy it's breezyness.10:46
phreak97i've been using it about a week and a half, but im far from well knowledged lol10:46
nofeari am but u typed !tell no fear about breezy10:46
TranceRiverWould you guys rather have a WRT54GS 1.0 or a WRT54G 2.2?10:46
polpakthierry: oh.. I don't use windows. Sorry10:46
phreak97whats dapper?10:46
Tobbe|livecdsobersabre, I'm googleing for information right now...10:46
nofear!breezy10:47
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:47
polpakubotu tell phreak97 about breezy10:47
sobersabreTobbe|livecd, good way of operating10:47
polpakwhoops10:47
sobersabrephreak97, you've just been told that.10:47
polpakubotu tell phreak97 about dapper10:47
sobersabrelisten, go for breezy. ( that's a period at the end of previous sentence)10:47
liableTranceRiver: check out whirlpool forums (good info on routers and such)10:48
TranceRiverYeah I'm browsing around.10:48
thierrypolpak: i made the effort (yes it is an effort to be free) to switch to Ubuntu, but Canon delivers W$ printer, and I have t keep W$...10:48
liableTranceRiver: and i try and avoid lynksys like the plague :)10:48
TranceRiverJust checkin' here to see if anyone had any person experiance.10:48
phreak97im using breezy afaik10:48
TranceRiverHeh, and you like?10:48
sobersabredoes anybody know of a document on how to setup dual environment: both 32bit and 64 bit with a amd64 kernel10:48
sobersabrephreak97, then you're fine.10:48
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phreak97i still dont know how to make my tv work10:48
liableatm, i got a billion.10:49
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sobersabrephreak97, if it is supported it should be easy.10:49
polpakthierry: sure, no worries. I just don't do windows support. (as I don't use it). Not judging =)10:49
phreak97i want my svideo output to work as a second monitor to play movies on10:49
thoreauputic!tell sobersabre about chroot10:49
phreak97sobersabre,  it is, but i from xorg.conf about three times trying to make it go10:49
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thierrypolpak: ok, no worry. So, whatever the OS i'm coming from, I'm looking how to reuse my "bestof.txt" as is.10:50
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sobersabrephreak97, is your X working ok with 2 monitors ?10:51
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phreak97phreak97,  nup10:51
phreak97oops10:51
phreak97sobersabre,  nup10:51
sobersabrephreak97, then 1st concentrate on that only.10:51
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Chameleon22scanner not being detected by kooka (and gimp) but shows up on device list when kooka is started - ideas , cause i am all out , loaded firmware, lsmod looks fine, etc   also how do i check what device (in /dev/) it is assigned to so i can ln fake scanner device to it ?10:51
sobersabredo you have 2 similar displays or different ?10:51
polpakthierry: well I could show you how to script the symlink thing in linux.. But like I said. I don't support other OS's10:51
phreak97well i dont have two cards10:51
polpakthierry: =)10:52
phreak97so it doesnt autodetect10:52
sobersabrephreak97, I don't understand. you told:10:52
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phreak97i have one card with dual output10:52
sobersabrei want my svideo output to work as a second monitor to play movies on10:52
phreak97thats right10:52
polpakphreak97: are you sure that svideo will work as a second display?10:52
sobersabrephreak97, you are in a mess of confusion. that's all.10:52
sobersabre:)10:53
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phreak97i have one video card, it has vga and svideo. it supports both at once as seperate displays10:53
phreak97i do it in windows all the time10:53
thierrypolpak: =) , yes i know how to do it : cat bestof.txt|xargs gthumb --slideshow10:53
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phreak97you can drag shit over to it and all10:53
Drakenis there any good download manager for UBUNTU ????10:53
phreak97not just a clone10:53
sobersabrephreak97, ok. still, you need to configure your X to know you want the 2nd card's pipeline to be used as a separate screen10:54
Irvinei have a question10:54
phreak97i know, but i dont know how10:54
thierrypolpak: but was looking gui/gnome way10:54
sobersabreplease refer to howto on how to setup multiple displays environment.10:54
polpakthierry: didn't know gthumb would take args for the slideshow.. even better10:54
phreak97i kept breaking the conf file10:54
thoreauputicDraken: you might loke d4x ( downloader for X )10:54
raymondwhy wont my flashdrive work in linux10:54
wzaDraken: Firefox?10:54
polpakthierry: why not just put that into a launcher?10:54
Irvinei have installed alicq but its icon don't present in applications>internet,10:54
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phreak97and having to restore it via command line10:54
polpakthierry: or a script in your bin directory10:54
phreak97sobersabre,  can you help me?10:54
thierrypolpak: launcher? (script i know)10:55
sobersabrephreak97, it depends on the card, but it took me too about a week of occasional 1/4 hour readings to figure it out. this part of linux is very underdocumented for a newbie user.10:55
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stoneagelinux linxu linux10:55
polpakthierry: if you go to application->system tools->Application menu editor10:55
Irvinecan anyone help me10:55
polpakthierry: you can add a new menu option10:55
sobersabrephreak97, I don't have the answer in the sleeve, and I won't debug it with you: I must disconnect.10:55
sobersabresorry, man.10:55
phreak97sobersabre,  what card you got?10:55
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sobersabreI've setup this on my laptop with i855GM card10:56
phreak97damn10:56
sobersabredesktops usually are easier.10:56
polpakthierry:  Or better still, you can make a nautelus script and plug it into the rightclick menu. Then just right click your txt file and select the script and voom10:56
phreak97alright, thanks anyway10:56
phreak97yeah10:56
Tobbe|livecdsobersabre, I found the vendor page for the controler, and they have Linux drivers, but only for Fedora Core and SuSE. Am I out of luck?10:56
thoreauputicIrvine: is this for ICQ? You realise that gaim does ICQ ?10:57
sobersabreTobbe|livecd, get the sources.10:57
sobersabreand compile them yourself.10:57
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thierrypolpak: yes, i prefer this last one than menu editor. It would be perfect if it could run from gthumb !10:57
sobersabreTobbe|livecd, I also suggest you to look at debian HCL and kernel.org's HCL10:57
Tobbe|livecdthere are no sources for download10:57
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sobersabreTobbe|livecd, maybe the binaries come with the source in them.10:57
sobersabrei mean bundled10:58
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sobersabreok must disconenct.10:58
sobersabrebye all.10:58
LiGhTeNiNponingru: it's a pity I couldn't get my connection working because now I can't install from the live-cd :<10:58
Irvinethoreauputic,i also installed d4x but its icon not present in application>internet10:58
thoreauputicIrvine: hmm - I don't know which menu d4x is supposed to be in, but doing  killall gnome-panel might fix that10:59
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Irvinehow?10:59
polpakthierry: well as I said you could script it to run from nautelus.. just right click the txt file, or you could have it operate on the directory instead (right click the directory) and it would look in that dir for a bestof.txt and slideshow those10:59
dAndyis there a fix for the broken locales pre-install script in dapper? I would look in bugzilla but I kinda dont have X10:59
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thoreauputicIrvine: sometimes it takes a re-login or a refresh of the panel to get menu entries10:59
polpakthierry: lemme find you the howto on nautelus scripting10:59
zzzzzzzzzzwhat is basic value of umask??11:00
Irvineok11:00
thoreauputicIrvine: in a  terminal, typ e   killall gnome-panel11:00
dAndyzzzzzzzzzz: 002211:00
dAndytypically11:00
zzzzzzzzzzthank you11:00
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polpakthierry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NautilusScriptsHowto11:02
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thierrypolpak: thank you very much11:02
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tvbsand next?>11:03
tvbsis ther someone in here11:03
LiGhTeNiNare you sure I wont get my connection that has a ericsson hn294dp router working under kubuntu live-cd? Then I can't install from it11:03
tvbshehe11:03
tvbschange another disk lar11:03
tvbsmaybe it's wrong11:03
thierrypolpak: i will read and try. Thanks again. Bye11:04
LiGhTeNiNtvbs: you are talking to me?11:05
id_sonictvbs: shhhhhhhhittttttttt11:05
id_sonichello "tvbs" is a new ubuntu user.11:05
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polpakid_sonic: language pls11:05
tvbshaha11:05
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tvbsshit11:05
tvbsid_sonic11:05
tvbswhayt's up11:06
athlonI am having trouble when apt-getting xnest. It seems that the server is down, but Ive just instaled wine, kompose and a few others without problem.11:06
thoreauputicid_sonic: no more or you will be out11:06
xbrucexanyone know a quick way to read the ATIP disc info on a DVD-R blank (just like a CD-R blank)? /proc/ide/hdd/media gives me no info11:06
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athloncould someone please try apt-get xnest and see if it works11:06
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tvbsI have trouble11:06
LiGhTeNiNare you sure I wont get my connection that has a ericsson hn294dp router working under kubuntu live-cd? Then I can't install from it11:06
tvbsgetting back11:06
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polpak!find xnest11:06
ubotuxnest: (nested X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 1251 kB, Installed size: 3368 kB11:06
thoreauputicathlon: sudo apt-get install xnest11:06
Irvinehow to run wine after installed?11:06
Irvineanyone11:06
polpakIrvine: I'd suggest first using winetools to configure/install the base system11:07
athlonthoreauputic, yup it was sudo-ed11:07
Irvinehow11:07
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athlonthoreauputic, the problem is with server not responding11:07
polpakIrvine: sudo apt-get install winetools11:07
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polpakIrvine: then just run winetools in a terminal11:07
UncleDIs anyone here running ubuntu as a production webserver/mailserver/nameserver for client-based sites/applications?11:08
polpakIrvine: it will walk you through the setup process11:08
thoreauputicathlon:  you mean the ubuntu server for apt?11:08
athlonthoreauputic, yep11:08
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thoreauputicathlon: try a differnet mirror then11:08
PeteyPablo!freenx11:08
ubotuwell, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX11:08
Irvinepolpak,Couldn't find package winetools11:08
Irvine11:08
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UncleDthoreauputic: you a debian user as well as ubuntu?11:08
athlon!mirror11:09
ubotuhmm... mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive11:09
thoreauputicUncleD: used to be :)11:09
polpakIrvine: sorry, you need to actually use the winehq repos11:09
Irvinehow?11:09
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UncleDthoreauputic: ah. I'm setting up a new server and I currently run ubuntu on a test server (i tried out). I've never used debian before but i've heard claims that its a "real os" whereas ubuntu isn't (as far as servers go). Any thoughts?11:09
polpakIrvine: go to http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb11:09
UncleDI'm honestly not trying to troll here btw, just get an idea of how ubuntu would do as a production webserver/mailserver.11:10
thoreauputicUncleD: yes - whoever told you that was on crack :)11:10
athlonhmm... now I cant access the mirror list11:10
Dashivai'd say ubuntu is more stable than debian at this point11:10
Dashivamore polish11:10
Dashivaeven on the server stuff11:10
thoreauputicUncleD: afaik lots of people are using it without issues11:10
UncleDthoreauputic: it was a "debian junkie" type of person im guessing. I downloaded debian install to try it out on vmware, no luck.11:10
athlonis ubuntu.com down or something ?11:10
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liablepolish!=stable11:10
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ajmitchUncleD: I'd recommend ubuntu as a server just as readily as I'd recommend debian11:11
UncleDthoreaputic: After a fresh install of debian from the install cd, do you have any "first things first" type of actions that you do right away, to customize your install?11:11
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UncleDajmitch: I appreciate your vote of confidence. You guys are really giving me a more comfortable feeling about using ubuntu as my production server.11:11
thoreauputicUncleD: Ubuntu is virtually the same as Debian - just gets a new stable release every 6 months11:11
Hendikinsliable: Microsoft products are a case in point11:11
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cozhello again I can't sleep11:11
liableHendikins: indeed.11:12
UncleDcoz: that's because you're having so much fun??11:12
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cozI wanted you guys to look at a screen ruler by the company iconico at iconico .com11:12
HendikinsI'm just visiting from upstream/firefox11:12
cozi am trying to get them to write this app for debian11:12
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cozif like it send them an email. Apparently I have been theonlylinux person to write them ever11:12
UncleDajmitch, anything you could tell me in regards to the question i asked thoreaputic in regards to "first things first" installs after you install the OS.11:13
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thoreauputicUncleD: what you do first after install really depends on the purpose11:13
poningruhehe yeah he is11:13
ajmitchUncleD: after you do a server install, you don't have a webserver, etc installed11:13
UncleDthoreaputic: well, I guess kind of.. I mean, are there anythings you just can't live without.11:13
ajmitchyou just grab the packages you want11:13
cozyes I am having fun quitting smking11:13
cozsmoking11:13
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UncleDcoz: I quit dec 1st11:13
cozcongratulations11:13
UncleD9 years.11:13
cozwhoa real congrats11:14
UncleDOff and on. This is the longest i've gone without smoking in 9 years that is.11:14
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cozwell I am chewing on a cigar not lighting it11:14
cozanyway11:14
UncleDQuitting drinking made a big difference for me.11:14
KeithWeissharwhy is the ubuntu live cd slow11:14
KeithWeissharit takes over 5 minutes to boot up11:14
UncleDcoz: I wouldn't be able to quit smoking without quitting drinking. I had to give up both.11:14
coz please if you guys look at the screen ruler at iconico.com and like it, write them an emale to port it to ubuntu11:15
cozGreat UnlcleD11:15
cozthat must have been tuff11:15
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cozhas anyone used the appkications gruler and or colorscheme11:16
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PeteyPablois the seveas mirror down?11:17
cozseveas11:17
PeteyPablohttp://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/11:17
PeteyPabloim trying to get freenx -_-11:17
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FlannelKingguys, if I install ubuntu on a harddrive, and then move that drive to another (vastly different) system, am I going to run into problems?11:18
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LCamel_A Copy-n-Paste VServer Guide for Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy   http://lcamel.blogspot.com/2006/01/copy-n-paste-vserver-guide-for-ubuntu.html  # any suggestions?11:18
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HendikinsFlannelKing: I would think it would depend on how vastly different. You'll drive the hardware detection nuts, that's for sure.11:20
FlannelKingwell, it's going from a desktop, to an old old laptop11:20
poningruLCamel_: try the #ubuntu-doc11:20
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FlannelKingso, from 1gb RAM to 40MB, and... 3GHz to 77mHz, and.... hmm, well, I guess the harddrive wont change.11:21
fli7eanyone know of a way to get tsclient to use specific outgoing ports?11:21
PeteyPabloFlannelKing: 77mhz ..?11:21
LCamel_poningru: thanks! :)11:21
PeteyPabloFlannelKing: and 40mb.. ubuntu wont run on that i don't think11:21
Hendikins40MB RAM? Are you nuts?11:21
FlannelKingerm, 75MHz11:22
fli7eor better yet, a way to get tsclient to tunnel through a proxy?11:22
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PeteyPabloubuntu requires 128, and i wouldn't run it with less then 25611:22
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ROBOdhey guys11:22
poningruFlannelKing: you shouldnt11:22
ROBOdi managed to make my TV tuner work on linux :)11:22
FlannelKingUbuntu requires 128? Whys that?  Debian doesnt?11:22
poningruFlannelKing: wait 40 mb?11:22
thoreauputicFlannelKing: Damn Small Linux *might* work on that machine11:22
FlannelKingyeah, why?11:22
ROBOdi have to rmmod bt878 then rmmod bttv ... and modprobe bttv card=7811:23
poningruFlannelKing: thats not going to work at all11:23
FlannelKingpsh, woody apparently runs fine.11:23
poningruFlannelKing: because of dependency on gnome11:23
ROBOdbut .... when i restart ... it doesn't remember the card11:23
FlannelKingNo, Im not going to install gnome11:23
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ROBOdi have to do the same always :)11:23
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ROBOdhow to save the card type?11:23
thoreauputicFlannelKing: Woody is over 3 years old ( gettin on for 4 )11:23
poningruFlannelKing: if you do a custom install and dont install ubuntu-desktop you can probably get away with it11:23
poningruFlannelKing: look into xubuntu11:24
Irvinepolpak,after installed winetools how to run wine?11:24
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ROBOdIrvine: do not use winetools11:24
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thoreauputicon 4oMB I would use blackbox or maybe openbox11:24
FlannelKingponingru, I was asking about problems with installing, then moving HD, I've already got my setup picked out, although Im always open to suggestions11:24
ROBOdIrvine: use wine 0.9.3 (not 0.9.4 because it's unstable)11:24
Irvineok11:24
Irvinenow,how to run winw?11:25
ROBOdIrvine: they've got winecfg (winetools no longer works)11:25
ROBOdIrvine: install it first :)11:25
dotrigHow i get sound in ubuntu in flash and games etc??? xmms works it11:25
Irvinehow?11:25
ROBOdso ... guys .... how to make the bttv card=78 the default?11:25
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IrvineROBOd,how to install winecfg?11:26
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Irvinehow to run wine?11:27
poningruIrvine: you may wanna look into !wine11:27
poningru!wine11:27
ROBOdIrvine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine11:27
thoreauputicFlannelKing: I would do a server install - to get networking going you might need to modprobe a driver/module for your nic - if you get that working you can apt-get what you need later11:27
mejdeI think I've found the problem, the nfs client needs to resend over 4000 segments when copying a 175 MB file11:27
febihi11:27
poningruIrvine: the link ROBOd gave11:27
Irvineok11:28
ROBOdponingru: any idea how to make bttv card=78 the default on boot?11:28
thoreauputicmejde: 175 MB isn't that big - it should tranfer fairly quickly11:28
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poningruROBOd: is that a vid card spec?11:29
cvt|gnuyearis there very many video types that can't be played on ubuntu?11:29
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poningruthat probably goes in xorg11:29
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poningruerr xorg.conf11:29
ROBOdponingru: that's a tuner TV card type11:29
thoreauputiccvt|gnuyear: most will play with w32codecs installed11:30
mejdethoreauputic: yes, but it seems the socket receive buffer on the client is to small11:30
poningru!tell cvt|gnuyear about restricted11:30
cvt|gnuyearthoreauputic, i can't find that in synaptic.11:30
thoreauputicmejde: that's over my head :)11:30
mejdethoreauputic: all I have to do now is figure out how to increase it :)11:30
ROBOdponingru: by default it's unknown ... and i always have to unload bttv then reload with card=7811:30
thoreauputic!w32codecs11:30
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install11:30
cvt|gnuyeari've tried that link a billion times11:30
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cvt|gnuyearnot that one11:30
OfeIs there a command to see conflicting packages? I'm planning to update from hoary to breezy with no cd.11:31
poningruROBOd: yeah dude look around in your xorg.conf11:31
poningruOfe: what do you mean? if you have ubuntu-desktop package installed and then distupgrade you should be good to go11:32
thoreauputiccvt|gnuyear: that link show you two places to download w32codecs...11:32
cvt|gnuyeark11:32
thoreauputicas a .deb11:32
Ofeponingru : I'm not sure if I have any conflicting packages and this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes tells me to get rid of those if I have any. :)11:33
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thoreauputic!tell Ofe about breezy11:33
Irvinei am using panasonic kx-p3626 printer.11:33
Irvinewhere can i get its driver?11:33
thoreauputicOfe: ah sorry11:33
Madpilot!printers11:33
ubotuit has been said that printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org11:33
krestenHi there! Does anybody know why I get this error "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist" almost every time I try to read a cd?11:34
MadpilotIrvine: have you used either of the URLs that ubotu gave above? ^^^11:34
poningruOfe: did you install any .deb packages from outside the repositories?11:35
thoreauputicOfe: usually it works fine - if you run into troubles at the end try  sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ( occasionally you nedd to repeat that a few times)11:35
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Ofeponingru : I've done nothing yet, just leeching some info in case I do run into trouble and lose internet connection (again) while updating. :)11:35
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Irvineyes11:36
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az[a] zelhi. I cannot network using samba between my mac os x machine and my ubuntu breezy machine11:36
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az[a] zelsmbclient //server/sharename works11:36
Ofeoh and yes, I think I've installed a couple .deb packages. totem-xine at least11:36
az[a] zelbut the Finder will _not_ connect to a share11:37
Irvinehow to share a printer with windows?11:37
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thoreauputicOfe: totem-xine should be OK - but check if you have ubuntu-desktop installed ( on warty totem-xine uninstalled it - hoary is OK afaik)11:37
krestenHi there! Does anybody know why I get this error "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist" almost every time I try to read a cd?11:38
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thoreauputickresten: you cdrom would normally be  /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd  - are you using a SCSI  cdrom ?11:39
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thoreauputic*your11:40
az[a] zelfrom reading the forums, I take it the samba is broken in breezy11:40
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gazhi im new to ubuntu ive recently used fedora, i used to use websites such as rpmfind to get packages what are the debian equivalent websites for getting packages?11:40
poningruaz[a] zel: not really11:40
poningrugaz: its built in11:41
poningrugaz: use synaptic11:41
az[a] zelponingru: i can't seem to connect to it from my ibook11:41
thoreauputicgaz: use synaptic11:41
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az[a] zelponingru: other people are reporting similar problems in ubuntu forums.. was working in hoary, now in breezy it doesn't11:41
thoreauputic!tell gaz about synaptic11:41
poningruaz[a] zel: oh yeah the ppc had some probs iirc,11:41
krestenthoreauputic, its external11:41
gazok i'll give it a whril ty11:41
thoreauputickresten: ah I see11:41
poningruaz[a] zel: but using samba here with no prob11:41
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az[a] zelponingru: this is a PPC mac OS X box connecting to an x86 ubuntu breezy mafhine11:41
pinucsetone think, is there some distribution that's always updating the packages? when firefox 2 was released in ubuntu I must wait to dapper drake or install it via tar.gz. is there any distribution wich sends it me via apt-get?11:41
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shotpointanyone here have flash11:41
stark-johanthe latest version of gtkpod in the synaptic packages is 0,94 but the latest release is 0,99, As I'm having troubles with 0,94 I thought I'd try to compile 0,99, is this a good idea or am I missing something?11:41
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cvt|gnuyeari have no sound11:42
febihi11:42
Madpilot!anyone11:42
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>11:42
poningruaz[a] zel: woah yeah with a mac box the samba support is even worse11:42
ROBOdwhere to get the list of kernel modules loaded?11:43
febihi11:43
shotpointhow do you just change one frame on flash11:43
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krestenthoreauputic, any ideas?11:43
febihi11:43
ROBOdponingru: bttv is *not* in xorg.conf11:43
thoreauputicROBOd: lsmod11:43
shotpointevery time i select one it chooses all the frames11:43
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thoreauputickresten: no sorry - I don't use external Cd-ROM and I don't know11:44
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krestenthoreauputic, ok.11:44
cvt|gnuyearhow do i make mplayer stop freezing whenever i try to open a movie file?11:44
poningruROBOd: hmm ic11:44
ROBOdthoreauputic: and ... where do i edit the modules which are loaded during boot?11:44
thoreauputickresten: check /var/log/messages when you attach it to see what the system thinks11:44
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thoreauputicROBOd: to add them put them in /etc/modules  - to remove you can use /etc/hotplug/blacklist IIRC11:45
stark-johanWhen I try to compile libgpod I get this error (pkg-config is installed): configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0 gobject-2.0) were not met.11:45
stark-johanConsider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you11:45
stark-johaninstalled software in a non-standard prefix.11:45
stark-johanAlternatively you may set the LIBGPOD_CFLAGS and LIBGPOD_LIBS environment variables11:45
stark-johanto avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for11:45
stark-johanmore details.11:45
thoreauputicstark-johan: do *not* paste in here!11:46
UncleDthor: what sort of must-have packages do you install typically on a fresh install for your uses? (do you have a preferred webserver setup)?11:46
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krestenthoreauputic, Dec 31 11:24:15 localhost kernel: [4295850.448000]  usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7611:46
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stark-johanok, sorry.11:47
polpakstark-johan: use pastebin11:47
thoreauputicUncleD: I'm not the best person to ask - I just have a small home network and little server expertise  ;)11:47
thoreauputic!paste11:47
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text11:47
krestenthoreauputic, and it just keeps adding that same line over and over...11:47
stark-johanpolpak: what is pastebin?11:47
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polpakubotu tell stark-johan about pastebin11:48
poningruUncleD: there is a ubuntu server channel somewhere on freenode iirc11:48
thoreauputickresten: have you tried   lsusb   ?11:48
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taomasterhappy new years 2 all- i have a ?, how do i change my root password?11:48
taomasteror can i?11:48
Madpilottaomaster: use sudo, not root11:48
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Madpilot!tell taomaster about root11:48
polpaktaomaster: you can, but you shouldn't11:48
polpaktaomaster: use sudo instead11:49
thoreauputic!tell taomaster about rootsudo11:49
thoreauputicheh11:49
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Bizzehdoes ubuntu come with an ntfs read enabled kernel?11:49
Madpilotthoreauputic: I'm well ahead of you :P11:49
poningruBizzeh: yes11:49
polpakBizzeh: yes11:49
krestenthoreauputic, nope, i'm new to linux, so I don't know the different commands...11:49
thoreauputicMadpilot: indeed :)11:49
cvt|gnuyearmplayer is not playing anything11:49
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thoreauputickresten:  well   lsusb  might tell you something useful11:50
taomasterwell i tried to use  get-apt dist-upgrade and it asked for my password and it said it was the wrong 111:50
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ROBOdany of you knows how to trick an app i got another CPU type?11:50
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ROBOdi386 instead of i68611:50
polpaktaomaster: you should use your own password for sudo11:51
thoreauputictaomaster: read the link ubotu sent you11:51
krestenthoreauputic, I tried it. It told me that my mouse is connected...11:51
ROBOdi've been told it's possible by setting some env vars11:51
thoreauputickresten: which you already knew :)11:51
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topyliROBOd: which app? why would you want to lie to it? :)11:52
thoreauputickresten: sorry I don't really know how to help you - maybe run  dmesg after plugging it in11:52
krestenthoreauputic, Yeah...11:52
binadoes anyone know where i might be able to find an Ubuntu package for kqemu? its not in my repos and gooling hasnt really produced anything.11:52
ROBOdtopyli: an app under wine :)11:52
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Pygitopyli: huh, not the Gaim one again :P11:52
phreak97score!11:52
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phreak97i got two x displays11:52
polpakROBOd: wine has it's own settings for "lying" to apps11:52
polpakROBOd: take a look at winecfg11:53
ROBOdpolpak: it has an option of lying the windows version11:53
ROBOdpolpak: i'm not aware of the CPU type option11:53
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krestenthoreauputic, tryed that, but it pretty much gives me the same result as /var/log/messages... Thanks anyway!11:53
thegladiatorhow do i log into gaim as invisible ?11:53
stark-johanWhen I try to ./configure I get an error saying I don't have glib but I'm pretty sure I do. I have pasted the output from the shell in the pastebin. (smart page btw)11:53
topyliROBOd: what app would rather run on a 386 than a 686 i don't know11:53
Bizzehdoes ubuntu or linux its self have DEP ?11:54
Bizzeh(hardware DEP)11:54
gazthoreauputic,  is synaptic equivalent to the command line dkpg?11:54
ROBOdtopyli: a freaky one :P11:54
ROBOdnow seriously ... how to do it?11:54
polpakgaz: more like a gui for apt-get11:54
Pygistark: development version of glib you need.....11:54
thoreauputicgaz: not exactly - it's a front end for apt-get11:54
Pygi!patience11:54
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.11:54
gazkk ty11:54
thoreauputicgaz: apt-get talks to dpkg ( dpkg is lower level)11:55
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gazaaah i see11:55
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thegladiatorhow do i log into gaim as invisible ? nyone ?11:55
Pygigladiator: why would you ever want to do that? gaim is not a protocol btw. :P11:56
thegladiatorjust personal reasons . i need to log in to check out some messsages11:56
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cvt|gnuyeari've lost sound. any help?11:56
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thegladiatoryahoo is my proto11:57
Pygiyou can't login i nto yahoo as invisible....11:57
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thegladiator:( thanks11:57
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poningruthegladiator: you can login as invisible for the aol account iirc11:58
poningruthegladiator: ask in #gaim for more info11:58
phreak97is there any antiflicker program i could get for managing my tv11:58
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bimberistark-johan: libglib2.0-dev ?11:59
thegladiatorthank you . i needed to login to yahoo , gues nothing works ion that front11:59
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thoreauputicbimberi: beat me to it :)11:59
bimberithoreauputic: haha :) (mc & hny btw)12:00
aatutest12:00
thoreauputicbimberi: sam to you :)12:00
thoreauputic*same12:00
bimberi:)12:00
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thoreauputicaatu: no you are invivible ;)12:00
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aatuokey I am new here12:01
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thoreauputicaatu: welcome :)12:01
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aatuthanks12:01
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cvt|gnuyearmy videos either don't have sound, no picture, or cause mplayer to freeze. any help?12:04
stark-johanpygi > thank you, seemed to work fine.12:04
Pygistark: what worked fine? yw12:05
mannyhey, how you download videos from IRC?12:05
Pygiah, the dev version of glib :P12:05
Pygistark-johan: sorry, still sleepin' :P12:05
cvt|gnuyearmanny, for example, if someone posts a link that ends in .avi, .mpg, .mov12:06
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Bizzehthats downloading a video via http12:06
Bizzehnot irc12:06
poningrumanny: this is not the place to look for warez12:06
poningru!warez12:06
ubotuponingru: Not a clue12:06
Bizzehsomeone just told you how to get it via irc12:06
zelevwhi guys...for the second time, second computer after successfully using ubuntu 5.10 for a couple of weeks then nothing will work because my file system becomes read-only...where can things be going wrong?12:07
cvt|gnuyearanyone know how to play videos?12:07
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topyli!anyone12:08
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>12:08
Sturgeoncvt|gnuyear: with totem or mplayer12:08
cvt|gnuyearSturgeon, totem plays zero files and mplayer freezes upon opening a file.12:08
Sturgeonwhat kind of file are you trying to play?12:09
mannyHey thanks GUSY!!!12:09
thoreauputiccvt|gnuyear: install totem-xine and try that12:09
cvt|gnuyear.avi. .mpg .wmv12:09
topylicvt|gnuyear: maybe you don't have codecs for your files12:09
cvt|gnuyearplus more12:09
manny*Guys12:09
Sturgeonyeah12:09
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topyli!restricted12:09
=== thoreauputic has better luck with totem-xine than mplayer
ubotusomebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats12:09
bina!tell bina about grub12:10
Madpilotcvt|gnuyear: try totem-xine instead of the default totem...12:10
cvt|gnuyeark12:10
HendikinsI'm just adding some distribution-specific notes to PluginDoc for Ubuntu. Is there anywhere aside from the Ubuntu wiki that I should look to procure information from?12:10
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thoreauputicMadpilot: beat you this time ;-)12:10
omerlhHello12:10
topylisad but true, gstreamer doesn't yet play everything yet12:10
omerlhI need help with mounting my usb FDD12:10
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zelevwi cant even run firefox so i can go to the forums and look for help12:11
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clastanyone here got banshee 0.10.2 running in breezy?12:11
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poningruzelevw: whats wrong?12:11
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zelevwponingru:...for the second time, second computer, after successfully using ubuntu 5.10 for a couple of weeks then nothing will work because my file system becomes read-only...12:12
topyliclast: probably. i take it that you don't?12:12
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poningruzelevw: hmm it just becomes read only?12:12
zelevwponningru: yes12:12
poningruzelevw: you sure the disk is not full?12:12
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poningruzelevw: that happend to me couple of days ago12:13
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clasttopyli, yeah, i get it to compile after meeting all the deps. but when i try to run it i get an error saying it can't load dbus-sharp12:13
poningruand the disk was full12:13
zelevwponingru: 75% used...on both computers12:13
zelevwponingru: what was it?12:13
thoreauputicerrors on the disk can make the system remount it read only12:13
poningruzelevw: are you checking the partition or the disk?12:13
zelevwponingru: df -k12:13
poningruzelevw: what file format?12:13
Bizzeh15gb is more than enough for ubuntu right?12:13
topyliclast: that's a bug i'd say. it should depend on dbus-sharp if it needs it to run12:13
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poningruBizzeh: yep12:14
topyliclast: where did you get the source?12:14
zelevwponingru: ext312:14
clasttopyli, it'S the official source tarball12:14
Bizzehis it posible to recompile ubuntu if you feel like it?12:14
cvt|gnuyeartotem xine fixed one problem so far12:14
zelevwponingru: i think12:14
cvt|gnuyearty12:14
poningruzelevw: you sure its not something like reiser4 or something?12:15
zelevwponingru: ext312:15
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topyliclast: i'd rather build a package from dapper sources12:15
thoreauputiczelevw: you could run  sudo shutdown -r -F now    to force a disk check on reboot12:15
thoreauputicof course that will reboot the machine...12:15
zelevwthoreauputic: thx!  i'll try that now...12:16
clasttopyli, what do you mean? get the sources from the dapper repos and then compile it in breezy?!12:16
thoreauputiczelevw: note the capital "F"12:16
thoreauputicimportant12:16
HendikinsOh, and whilst I think of it, does the installation script for the realplayer package take care of the Mozilla plugin?12:16
topyliclast: enable dapper deb-src repository, run apt-get update and apt-get -b source banshee12:16
topyliclast: you'll end up with a package12:17
taomasteris there a easy way to install java?12:17
thoreauputicHendikins: it appears to work with firefox12:17
Madpilottaomaster: yes12:17
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Madpilot!tell taomaster about java12:17
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topyliclast: before the build command, run apt-get build-depend banshee (i forgot)12:18
Hendikinsthoreauputic: Well, I don't have and can't procure Ubuntu for a quick test, so I have to ask these things12:18
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clasttopyli, i already did that (the build-dep12:18
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topyliclast: if you didn't have dapper source repos enabled, apt got the build-deps against the breezy source12:19
cvt|gnuyeartotem xine looks great12:19
HendikinsUbuntu actually has users, which is why I'm adding a notes section for it and not debian12:19
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clasttopyli, alright! i got it12:19
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cafuegoHendikins: rtfm n00b12:20
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topyliclast: you might need to compile some dependencies before you can build banshee. if you get into a ridicilous dependency hell, you'll need to try something else12:20
Hendikinscafuego: I don't RTFM. I WTFM.12:21
topyliclast: don't start building half your system because of a stupid audio player :)12:21
cafuegowell, UTFM then12:21
acteryhi12:21
acteryfrohes neues jahr12:21
acteryeuch allen12:21
jack-dir auch12:21
clasttopyli, yeah, it seems like the newest version requires a lot of stuff that isn't included in breezy12:21
jack-but plz stick to english and shit12:21
topyliclast: you may have to build mono12:21
acterykk12:21
clasttopyli, did that12:22
Hendikinscafuego: and I'm asking about things that aren't made clear in the Ubuntu wiki, FYI12:22
topyliclast: and libdbus-cil12:22
cafuegoHendikins: In #debian tradition, what you aksed should in no way affect my response ;-)12:22
clasttopyli, alright, you know what, this is getting ridiculous! ;) i just wanna get my ipod nano to work!12:22
Hendikinscafuego: I had the fun job of getting annoyed at #debian for sending all Firefox users upstream for support last night. Quite the experience, I must say.12:23
thoreauputicHendikins: you've started cafuego on a role play and he can't slip out of character now ;-)12:23
HendikinsWith friends like that, who needs enemies?12:23
topyliclast: why not build the new rhythmbox then? it's supposed to work nicely with ipods12:23
methohello good morning!12:23
topyliclast: saves you from fighting with mono12:23
clasttopyli, you mean version 0.9.3?12:23
cafuegoclast: The new Rhythmbox (from Dapper) does indeed work just dandy with iPods.12:23
stark-johanI'm also trying to get my ipod working by building the latest gtkpod.12:23
methohow do i install real player and windows media player plugin for mozilla firefox12:24
cafuegoclast: 0.9.212:24
methoand also flash player12:24
clastthat'S what i meant12:24
topyliclast: i guess, whatever is latest in dapper12:24
Pygiubotu tell metho about flash12:24
dAndycan I just state for th umpteenth time that I picked a poor name for highlighting purposes...12:24
clastcafuego, i'll try compiling that12:24
topyliclast: yes, i seem to have 0.9.212:24
cafuegoclast: I added daap support too, so it also sees the mt-daap iTunes server.12:24
Pygiubotu tell metho about freeformats12:24
Hendikinscafuego: and for trivia value, I'm actually covering the subject metho was asking about :-)12:24
clastcafuego, sweet! :)12:24
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=== Hendikins just doesn't have any distribution-specific notes yet
stark-johanSeems like I have to upgrade to dapper to get the ipod working. Is dapper OK to run yet or is it unstable and wierd?12:25
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clastcafuego, wtf? http://rhythmbox.sourceforge.net/download.html why is there only 0.8.5?12:26
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cafuegoclast: You will need: 'libavahi-client-dev libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common-dev libavahi-common3 libavahi-core-dev libavahi-core3 libavahi-glib-dev libavahi-glib1'12:26
topylistark-johan: it's unstable and weird. if not today, they might break it tomorrow12:26
cafuegoclast: Use a dapper deb-src line.12:26
cafuegoclast: Avoid tarball.12:26
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thoreauputicHendikins: actually I'll modify what I said about the realplayer plugin - realplayer works fine for BBC radio and ABC radio (.au) - but I just realised they both use "players" of their own writing so I'm unsure on other streams12:26
j2daoshwhats up people?12:26
lynxhas anyone heard of something that cleans out temp files automatically12:26
acterynothing12:27
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Pygitopyli: do not argue with dapper :P12:27
Hendikinsthoreauputic: Opening about:plugins will answer my question (and show a link to my site, if it hasn't been modified)12:27
LiGhTeNiNPygi: you did your ubuntu install with installation cds?12:27
xiaogilwhat's the difference between kopete gaim and amsn ?12:27
lynxI guess it clears cookies and other temporary files12:27
j2daoshi have a question about installing a correct webcam driver (i.e- where to install it, why it gives me a bunch of errors with the Makefile script, etc.)12:27
cafuegolynx: `find' with a time param in a cron job.12:27
PygiLightenin: yesh....12:28
Hendikinsthoreauputic: if you see an nphelix.so in the list and you know you didn't put it there yourself, that's a "Yes"12:28
Pygixiaogil: gaim is worst of them all ;)12:28
PygiLightenin: why you ask?12:28
thoreauputicHendikins: both totem and real plugins are there12:28
lynxI'm sorry, I'm new to all this lingo what do you mean?12:28
stark-johantopyli > so is there any way to get packages from dapper without actually upgrading? I noticed the libgpod exists as a dapper package but not in breezy.12:28
LiGhTeNiNPygi: it's a real pity that I can't get my connection working on live-cd, can't install from it then12:28
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PygiLightenin: huh :/12:29
thoreauputicHendikins: as far as I can recall I didn't hack any files to get them in there12:29
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Hendikinsthoreauputic: Right. Then that's a "Yes", and I'll procure information about totem (both for general and ubuntu sections)12:29
PygiLightenin; how are you on internet now?12:29
topylistark-johan: yes, you can build breezy packages from dapper sources with apt12:29
LiGhTeNiNPygi: I'm under win12:29
j2daosh!auto identify12:29
ubotuj2daosh: Not a clue12:29
j2daosh...12:29
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thoreauputicHendikins: note that I'm using totem-xine, not totem-gstreamer - but I assume the default gstreamer one does the same12:30
stark-johantopyli > I have compiled libgpod from source but gtkpod can not find it, mayme it's better to use apt instead?12:30
PygiLightenin: you have your computer connected to router with a ethernet cable?12:30
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topylistark-johan: enable dapper dep-src repo for universe. apt-get update; apt-get build-dep rhythmbox; apt-get -b source rhythmbox12:30
cafuegostark-johan: Again, build the dapper gtkpod deb-src on breezy. Do not mess about with tarballs.12:30
topylistark-johan: that version has ipod support12:30
Hendikinsand whilst I'm being annoying, is there an i386 gflashplayer package in universe?12:31
LiGhTeNiNPygi: correct, remember we talked about it yesterday, I got the same router that you have12:31
j2daoshanyone know how i can find the installed driver for an old webcam i have... kick it out and put a new one in?12:31
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PygiLightenin: yesh, I know ....12:31
topylistark-johan: or gtkpod as cafuego says12:31
Draken!quake412:31
ubotuDraken: Are you smoking crack?12:31
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PeteyPabloLOL12:31
Draken!quake12:31
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Draken12:31
PeteyPablo!botsnack12:31
ubotu:)12:31
Sturgeon!wtf12:31
ubotuwtf do you mean, sturgeon ?12:31
PygiSturgeon, stop it12:31
PygiSTOP ABUSING UBOTU12:31
cafuegotopyli: Not quite, he needs to add '--enable-daap --enable-audioscrobbler' to debian/rules first.12:31
SturgeonHey, i just wtf'ed.12:32
thoreauputicHendikins: there's a GPL flash player ( not sure if its universe or multiverse) but I tried it without success on my iBook G4 (ppc)12:32
cafuegoOR I WILL TURN HIM OFF12:32
thoreauputicHendikins: it just crashed firefox every time12:32
Pygilower the caps cafuego12:32
topylicafuego: dunno about daap (don't have an ipod) but i think i got audioscrobbler support by default12:32
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cafuegotopyli: daap is the zero-conf iTunes sharing service12:33
Hendikinsthoreauputic: well, the wiki says universe... and that'd be gflashplayer12:33
cafuegotopyli: .. just rebuilt mine a few hours ago.12:33
PeteyPablohow do i take a screenshot of one window?12:33
thoreauputicGeneral Notice: Ubotu is cafuego's bot - so please pay attention to him12:33
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methoi'm trying to install real-player and i am keeep getting this msg "The file /root/rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm does not exist" but i installed this through the synaptic12:33
thegladiatorPeteyPablo, screensht is meant for screen as a whole12:33
MadpilotPeteyPablo: alt+PrntScrn12:33
topylicafuego: oh. stark-johan, listen to cafuego rather than me since he has actually handled the ipod thing12:33
PeteyPabloi just want to take pictures of individual windows?12:34
Hendikinsmetho: Why are you trying to install RealPlayer 8?12:34
stark-johantopyli: yep, I am :-)12:34
cafuegotopyli: Been playing music off my pod all afternoon :-)12:34
Madpilotthegladiator: try alt+Print Screen - you might be surprised :P12:34
methohendikins: i dont know12:34
topyli:D12:34
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thegladiatorPeteyPablo, yes MadPilot is correct alt+print scrn12:34
methohendikins: thats what came thorugh the synaptic12:35
thegladiatoryes :) indeed i am12:35
PeteyPabloHOLY FUCKING SHIT, SOMONE I KNOW IS IN JAIL FOR MURDER12:35
Drakenamaing :P12:35
PeteyPablosorry for the language, it just freaked me out12:35
stark-johanjust need to figure out how to work the apt-thingie. care to give me a few tips cafuego?12:35
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PeteyPabloi jsut heardd it on the news12:35
PeteyPablothat mofo is in jail for murder.12:35
Sturgeonfor murdering who?12:35
PeteyPabloi dont know12:35
PeteyPablosome guy12:35
cafuegostark-johan: add a deb-src line for dapper, then run 'sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox'12:35
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thegladiatorhell!12:35
klaymjohn lennon i suppose12:35
PeteyPablolol12:35
PeteyPabloi always knew that kid was sick12:36
cafuegostark-johan: then 'sudo apt-get install libavahi-client-dev libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common-dev libavahi-common3 libavahi-core-dev libavahi-core3 libavahi-glib-dev libavahi-glib1'12:36
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j2daoshok... i got a dumb question that would really make it easy for me so i doubt it will work... if i add a url to a driver for a webcam that i have as a repo in my sources.list and then load up synaptic/apt-get and get that file will it automatically install it? im having problems figuring out how to get my intel cam to work and the spca driver isn't installing properly12:36
cafuegostark-johan: Then 'sudo apt-get source rhythmbox'12:36
cafuegostark-johan: Then cd into rhythmbox-0.9.212:36
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stark-johancafuego > didn't you use gtkpod? (does it matter which one to use?)12:37
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cafuegostark-johan: and edit debian/rules. Make sure the first DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS line contains '--with-ipod=yes --enable-daap --enable-audioscrobbler'. Then run 'fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -b'12:37
cafuegostark-johan: No, I use rhythmbox.12:37
methohendikins: what do i need to do regarding the real-player12:37
Hendikinsmetho: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so I can only suggest checking the wiki12:38
j2daoshanyone?12:38
stark-johancafuego > ok, thanks. I'll try it right away.12:38
thoreauputicmetho: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats   and folloe the instructions there12:38
dukebodyhello, could anybody help me? i'm having problems with my network configuration, i can't see my samba sharing folders12:38
thoreauputic*follow12:38
methook, thanks12:38
thegladiatorHendikins, which one do you use ? and what brings you here at #ubuntu ?12:38
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jahnby12:39
poningrumetho: you have couple of options12:39
thoreauputicthegladiator: he's writing some docs12:39
thegladiatori thought #ubuntu is purest channel for ubuntu talkz12:39
thegladiatorcool12:39
stark-johancafuego > erhm... how do I add a deb-src line for dapper?12:39
poningrumetho: mplayer and couple of others play most real player encoded media12:39
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thoreauputicthegladiator: well, we help people who are writing docs that might guide our users, right?12:39
poningrumetho: but for complete support you would need the official player which is not half bad12:40
Hendikinsthegladiator: I use SuSE Linux, and I'm adding ubuntu-specific notes to plugindoc.mozdev.org12:40
thegladiatorvery much . yes . his work is appreciated12:40
poningrumetho: for more details:12:40
foxinesshi , i saw this http://www.stierand-linuxit.de/kinstaller/download.html , i want to know if there better than this or there one for gnome ?12:40
thegladiatorHendikins, nice12:40
poningru!tell metho  about restricted12:40
thoreauputicHendikins: thank you , indeed :)12:40
thegladiatorHendikins, good work actually12:40
HendikinsThat, and I'm also mildly interested to see how Firefox questions are triaged (given I was trolling #debian about that yesterday...)12:40
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dpmaxeyhello?12:41
Hendikinsthegladiator: plugindoc needs a lot of work done to it, particularly for OSX and non-x86 Linux platforms.12:41
methoponingru: i have mplayer installed, i dont even need real player, i just want a real-player and windows media player plugin for playing online streams12:41
dpmaxeyhello?12:41
dukebodyplease somebody could help me setting up my network? hello dpmaxey12:41
phreak97can someone send me subfont.ttf ? apparently its a font from mplayer12:41
thegladiatorHendikins, i know its some work . Good Luck :)12:41
dpmaxeywhat do u have for yer network?12:41
thegladiatorhello dpmaxey12:42
topyliphreak97: you could probably get it by installling the mplayer-fonts package12:42
dpmaxeyhey12:42
phreak97(~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)12:42
thegladiatorsup12:42
poningrumetho: there is a mozilla mplayer plugin12:42
phreak97oh, maybe12:42
Hendikinsthegladiator: I've only been torturing myself since 05/2002. The irony is that I hate plugins, and that I originally started with a cheat sheet for my own reference for Mozilla 0.9.x on Win32.12:42
poningrufoxiness: sorry dude there is no gnome equivalent12:42
TranceRiverdukebody: I'd help you if I would know how (linux newbie here too), but just curious, what is your equipment? What router do you have?12:43
methoponingru: i have that installed but i cannot play any streams12:43
dpmaxeyanybody know good iPod transfering program instead of gtkpod?12:43
thoreauputicHendikins: I imagine you might get more definitive answers on the ubuntu-devel mailing list , if you haven't already12:43
poningrumetho: what browser are you using?12:43
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Hendikinsthoreauputic: This is basic stuff that shouldn't need to go to -devel though.12:43
poningrumetho: and what version?12:43
HendikinsI just don't have a test setup because I'm on dial-up, otherwise I'd just do all the looking myself.12:44
foxinessponingru, no problem ,TIA12:44
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dukebodyTranceRiver, i have a Comtrend 536+, but i'm having problems in my local network12:44
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topylifoxiness: isn't something like kinstaller a bit useless? :)12:44
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thoreauputicHendikins: fair enough - agreed that mostly it is - I thought you might want more detail re: policy on firefox or whatever12:44
methoponingru: mozilla firefox 1.0.712:44
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TranceRiverWish I could help you.12:44
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stark-johanhow do I add a deb-src line fot dapper?12:44
dukebodyi can't see my samba sharing folders TranceRiver12:45
foxinesstopyli, i think soo :) , but to know about something butter than not12:45
Hendikinsthoreauputic: As long as the policy isn't "patch it to all hell then send the users upstream for support", it probably won't cause me any problems :-)12:45
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poningrumetho: hmm thats weird12:45
PeteyPablocan anyone tell me how to take a snapshot of one window?12:45
thoreauputicstark-johan: just copy your breezy source lines and change breezy to dapper12:45
dpmaxeyiPod info anybody?12:45
topylifoxiness: surely. it doesn't seem to make packages though12:45
poningrumetho: and can you download that stream and play it in mplayer?12:45
topylifoxiness: oh sorry, it does have an option to use checkinstall12:45
methoponingru: i havent tried downloading it (basically i do not know how to download stream so i just play it online)12:46
dpmaxey?12:46
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alexissofthi12:46
stark-johanthoreauputic > what's my source lines?12:46
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clastcafuego, when i try to get the rhythmbox source it says i need: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: docbook-utils (>= 0.6.11) gnome-pkg-tools libdbus-glib-1-dev (>= 0.60) liblircclient-dev libsoup2.2-dev libgpod-dev12:46
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thoreauputicstark-johan: in /etc/apt/sources.list , the lines that have "src" in them at the beginning12:47
topylistark-johan: in your sources.list file, the lines that begin with deb-src and not dep12:47
foxinesstopyli, i dont using this before but i know about it from my frindes12:47
clastcafuego, and i don't think i can update dbus. or am i wrong?!12:47
poningrumetho: right click on an empty portion of the webpage and go to page info12:47
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poningrumetho: there should be a media tab12:47
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poningrumetho: and look for any media that is embed12:47
foxinesstopyli, i think autopackage on IMHO better than install something from source like .tgz12:48
j2daoshok... i got a dumb question that would really make it easy for me so i doubt it will work... if i add a url to a driver for a webcam that i have as a repo in my sources.list and then load up synaptic/apt-get and get that file will it automatically install it? im having problems figuring out how to get my intel cam to work and the spca driver isn't installing properly12:48
fluximi just have only the ubuntu standart install, wich plugins i need for totem to play an avi video?12:48
methoponingru: thanks, let me try now!12:48
thoreauputicstark-johan:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to edit the file ( or use your preferred editor)12:48
topyliclast run apt-get build-dep rhythmbox12:48
xtlgalinux nightmare : install a printer and tvcard :(12:49
stark-johanyep, I'm looking at it but there's a few different lines including breezy.12:49
poningrumetho: that should give you a save as option in the bottom right hand corner12:49
topylifoxiness: bah, let's rather build debian packages and keep our systems sane :)12:49
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clasttopyli,  Build-Depends dependency for rhythmbox cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libdbus-glib-1-dev can satisfy version requirements12:49
foxinesstopyli, haha12:49
poningrumetho: not sure about that last statement, that feature could be a 1.5 feature12:49
topyliclast: well, then you get to build that too12:49
bimberiubotu tell fluxim about avi12:50
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clasttopyli, alright...:-/12:50
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topyliclast: since you don't have to fiddle with the build options, you can just run apt-get build-dep  libdbus-glib-1-dev; and apt-get -b source libdbus-glib-1-dev12:51
stark-johanthoreauputic > is it this line I should copy to a dapper one? "deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"12:51
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thoreauputicstark-johan: that is one of them, yes - copy it and substitute dapper for breezy and add that at the bottom (assuming the source you want is in that branch)12:52
j2daoshhey bim12:52
thoreauputicstark-johan: you can do the same for universe etc12:53
j2daoshu know anything about webcams and drivers and adding a repo to do an easy install?12:53
stark-johanok12:53
bimberihey j2d :P12:53
methoponingru: ok little progress is made, i can hear the audio when i save it and play it, but i cannot see the video12:53
kheelhey all12:53
bimberij2daosh: sorry no :(12:53
thoreauputicstark-johan: I'm assuming you want to compile a dapper package to work in breezy?12:53
j2daoshim trying to half ass an install of a driver because the manual dl/install aint working...12:53
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j2daoshok well lemme ask you this... if i have the url of a file/driver/tar... and i add that url to my repo list... what will happen?12:54
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thoreauputicj2daosh: it won't work :)12:54
j2daoshwill apt-get find that file and install it12:54
bimberij2daosh: if it's just a url to a file - it won't work12:55
mergesthi12:55
poningrumetho: hmm12:55
thoreauputicj2daosh: repo lists have a special structure12:55
poningrumetho: it may be a vid that mplayer cannot play12:55
j2daoshdang... thats not what i wanted to hear12:55
bimberij2daosh: what sort of file? - <something>.deb ?12:55
poningrumetho: does the plugin behave the same for all real player media?12:55
dukebodyplease help me. I cant see my samba shared folders :(12:55
j2daoshnah its a stupid .tar.gz12:56
methoponingru: that wasnt real player media, it was .asf file12:56
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poningrumetho: oh hehe12:56
HendikinsAnother one for the dumb questions basket: Where would I find a Flash 7.0r61 package for Ubuntu?12:56
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PeteyCrack!imagemagick12:56
ubotuPeteyCrack: Are you smoking crack?12:56
PeteyCracklol.12:56
poningrumetho: .asf is restricted up the wazoo12:56
PeteyCrackcan somone tell me how to start imagemagick?12:56
stark-johanthoreauputic > Yes, I'm trying to get a newer program so that my ipod will work.12:56
thoreauputic!info imagemagick12:56
ubotuimagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB12:56
topylij2daosh: it's probably source and you'll have to build it. i don't recommend it if you can avoid it12:56
j2daoshwell now it is just a folder with scripts in it12:56
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methoponingru: up the wazoo?12:57
poningrumetho: there is no way it will play its a microsoft format12:57
methoponingru: up the wazoo?12:57
topyliPeteyCrack: you don't start imagemagick. it's a collection of utilities12:57
poningrumetho: to a very high degree12:57
methoponingru: but it can play .wmv12:57
bimberij2daosh: look for a file called README or INSTALL12:57
methoponingru: but it can play .wmv?12:57
PeteyCrackcan somone tell me how to start imagemagick?12:57
topyliPeteyCrack: what we usually want from imagemagick is convert12:57
poningrumetho: yeah I know but asf is slightly different12:57
j2daoshlol top... i wouldn't recommend it either because i dont even understand how to "build" something lol12:57
mergestI've got a problem with my evolution mail client: I want to save mails in different folders. I've configurated 3 several mail adresses and i want to save the mails in serveral mailboxes and not all mails in one inbox. can anybody help me with this stupid problem? :)12:57
thoreauputicPeteyCrack: try "isplay"12:57
=== Hendikins can only seem to find 7.0r25 packages, even for dapper, and 7.0r61 is a security release
poningrumetho: also the latest wmv cannot be played iirc12:58
PeteyCracki just want to take a picture of individual windows..12:58
dukebodyCould anybody please help me configuring my network?? please12:58
j2daoshbim... yeah i found those files but when i run the install script it gives me errors and junk...12:58
topyliPeteyCrack: use "import"12:58
thoreauputicPeteyCrack:  import is the command you want12:58
poningruPeteyCrack: you mean screenshots of individual windows?12:58
PeteyCrackponingru: yes12:58
methoponingru: i see, no problem!12:58
bimberij2daosh: ... which you've pasted where?12:58
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poningruPeteyCrack: you can always use gimp12:59
thoreauputicPeteyCrack: read man imagemagick - or better, the html docs linked from it12:59
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thoreauputicbimberi: heh - evidently not ;)12:59
atlashello everybody12:59
dukebodyhello atlas12:59
thoreauputicOK must go now... bye12:59
atlassomeone have the suspend2 patch?12:59
dukebodyatlas, could yo help me configuring my network??12:59
bimberinn thoreauputic12:59
atlasi have some probleme with module and it01:00
mergesthmm01:00
j2daoshlol no where yet... gimme a sec and ill smack the link up here01:00
atlashmm, i'm not sure dukebody01:00
PeteyCrackponingru: how do i take a picture of an individual window with gimp?01:00
atlasi french and n000b to , i can try if you want..01:00
dukebodyi'm having problems browsing my samba shared folders01:00
clasttopyli, will apt-get -b source libdbus-glib-1-dev also install the package?01:01
dukebodyi'm having problems with my network configuration, atlas01:01
j2daoshhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/648301:01
atlasi can't help you i don't use samba :D sorry dukebody01:01
topyliclast: no, it will leave the package in the current directory01:01
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PeteyPabloponingru: got it.01:01
topyliclast: run sudo dpkg -i *.deb01:01
dukebodyplease, could anybody help me with samba and network configuarion???01:01
clasttopyli, yeah, but where is the package?01:01
j2daoshid help ya duke but i haven't set mine up yet... pashaw told me to setup a vpn and then just setup samba01:02
mergestnobody works with evolution?01:02
topyliclast: in the same directory where you built it01:02
poningruPeteyCrack are you PeteyPablo ?01:02
PeteyPabloponingru: yea01:02
poningrucool01:02
PeteyPabloponingru: i'm not sure why i have 2 clients on01:02
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PeteyCrackponingru: lol01:02
clasttopyli, ;) oh crap, it just see my desktop is full of dbus packages!01:02
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topyliclast: :)01:03
HendikinsWell, I've gone looking for Flash 7.0r61 Ubuntu packages, and I seem to be drawing a blank. What's the situation there?01:03
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j2daoshok... ill be back in a minute i gotta help a dude with a winblows box01:04
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Bizzehhey, i donwloaded and burned kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso, when i boot with it, it asks me what language and screen resolutions i want, then it does a little graphical boot thing, then just gives me a console01:05
Bizzehwhat happened to the installer01:05
Bizzeh?01:05
clasttopyli, okay, this is kinda scary, it changes so many dbus things: libdbus-glib-1-dev conflicts with dbus-1-utils (<< 0.50-2)01:05
clast  dbus-1-utils (version 0.36.2-0ubuntu7) is installed.01:05
bimberij2daosh: looks like that INSTALL file is (as is usually the case) a file with instuctions to install01:05
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phreak97where do i put mplayer skins to use them?01:05
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topyliclast: you're trying to install them all at the same time?01:05
phreak97i dont care01:05
phreak97how do install them?01:06
clasttopyli, no only libdbus-glib-dev01:06
phreak97one at a time or otherwise01:06
phreak97doesnt matter01:06
Toma-phreak97: /usr/share/mplayer/SKin01:06
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Toma-err01:06
Toma-phreak97: /usr/share/mplayer/Skin01:06
PeteyPablohttp://www.demonlegion.net/private/Mace/linux/panel.bmp now thats pretty01:06
phreak97thanks01:06
topyliclast: cd to Desktop, and do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"01:06
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clastoh isee01:07
topyliclast: so you'll have a matching set of dbus packages01:07
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phreak97Toma-, i dont really have rights to that01:07
topyliclast: and hope they don't conflict with something more fundamental :)01:07
phreak97how are you meant to go about installing them01:07
Toma-phreak97: for a global setting, just put them in there. otherwise, id say you could use ~/.mplayer/Skin01:08
Toma-just mkdir01:08
clasttopyli, i just did "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" and there is a crap load of dependency errors! i think i just give!01:08
Hobbseeclast: pastebin the errors then01:08
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topyliclast: what dependencies do they break?01:09
thirstwhen I try to mount a partition on my second disk(hdb), I get this error "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /second busy" when either of those are not true.. any clues01:09
topyliclast: i know i did build rhythmbox recently, and the dependencies weren't so bad after all01:09
Hobbseethirst: double check your fstab, just to see?01:09
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clasttopyli, you're using breezy?01:09
topyliclast: yes01:10
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thirstHobbsee: i did .. "mount|grep hdb" gives me no output01:10
phreak97Toma-,  thanks01:10
clasttopyli, Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/48702901:10
Hobbseethirst: paste your /etc/fstab to pastebin?01:10
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topyliclast: probably the dbus packages just need something else still. so you'll build those :)01:10
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Toma-phreak97: no probs01:10
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clasttopyli, i guess i need to get rid of dbus-utils01:11
topyliclast: is a new dbus-utils among the dbus packages you just built?01:12
thirstHobbsee: i don't see u in #pastebin01:12
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j2daoshok... uhh... lol bim... imma post what the install file says to do... then if you could... put it in plain english.. i think it says i have to compile something. if thats the case... lol well lets just say i dont need the cam working that bad lol01:12
Hobbsee!tell thirst about pastebin01:12
Hobbseethirst: that pastebin!01:12
thirstHobbsee: ok..01:12
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clasttopyli, yes01:13
j2daoshhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/648401:13
topyliclast: try installing just that first (don't remove the old one just yet)01:13
j2daoshoh that sucks01:13
fluximi just have only the ubuntu standart install, wich plugins i need for totem to play an avi video?01:14
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naliothubotu: tell fluxim about multimedia01:14
aeon17xHow do I view the storage capacity of the CD in my CD drive?01:14
tagI'm setting up my little sisters laptop so it will be *ultra* easy to use.  When I pop in a dvd player, totem starts up and throws an error saying it cannot read from the DVD01:14
Bizzehaeon17x: 700mb01:14
thirstHobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/648501:14
Bizzehthats the max capacity of a cd01:14
taomastercan i install fluxbox in ubuntu?01:15
j2daoshok can someone who knows the linux lingo look at the pastebin link i just put up there and tell me if what it is asking me to do is compile something or some type of like programming thing? cuz yeah... i dont know hot to do that and i dont need the webcam that bad01:15
hyakuheiBizzeh: no its not, there are many different standards/sizes, i can think of 3 off the top of my head01:15
taomasterwell it run?01:15
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hyakuheitaomaster: sure can, openbox is more standards complient though01:15
Kindred!fluxbox01:15
ubotufluxbox is, like, a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net01:15
john_Does anyone know how I can install firefox 1.5 onto Ubuntu?01:15
tagwhat would someone suggest to make it simple to play DVD's?01:15
Hobbsee!tell john_ about firefox1.501:15
aeon17xBizzeh: I've seen CDs with 650, 700, and 800.01:15
john_thanks01:15
topyliclast: seems to me that update-notifier is the most important package depending on dbus-1-utils (on my system), and it doesn't specify a version01:16
Hobbseethirst: that's weird...01:16
Bizzehaeon17x: the standard is 700, 650's arnt made any more, and 800's are rare01:16
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hyakuheiaeon17x: do you want to know about blank writable CD's or normal printed CD's?01:16
tag!tell tag about playing dvds01:16
aeon17xBlank ones.01:16
tagfucca01:17
hyakuheiIm not sure about that, sorry01:17
Bizzehdoes anyone know of any problems with the installer on amd64?01:17
thirstHobbsee: do you see any trouble ?01:17
clasttopyli, okay...this seems to me like a vicious circle. every dbus package depends on another one etc01:17
aeon17xMaybe I'll just go to the safe way and think that it's a 700MB CD.01:17
tagooohh01:17
topyliclast: ok, see what would be removed if you remove dbus-1-utils with apt-get01:17
hyakuheiaeon17x: I know k3b can figure it out, and thats just a wrapper to the normal cdroasting suite, so look at cdrecord etc01:17
thegladiatoryou could check it with k3b i guess . cd info can be found out01:17
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Hobbseethirst: no, but i suddenly feel terrible, so everythings' a bit hard to do at the moment - i might have missed it01:18
Bizzehi donwloaded and burned kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso, when i boot with it, it asks me what language and screen resolutions i want, then it does a little graphical boot thing, then just gives me a console01:18
Bizzehhow would i manualy start the installer?01:18
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sanderhow do I upgrade from hoary to breezy in aptitude?01:19
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clasttopyli, it's a lot! like hal-device-manager and the update-notifier and various dbus packages01:20
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j2daoshbizzeh... what do u mean start the installer?01:20
Bizzehthe ubuntu "graphical" installer01:20
Bizzehso i can install the os01:21
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j2daoshand what little graphical thing? is this a live cd or a full install cd?01:21
Bizzehfull install cd01:21
Bizzehdvd01:21
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Bizzehits the blue "ubuntu" logo with the progress bar and the text telling you what its doin01:21
topyliclast: i have the same dbus-1-utils installed that your new dbus is trying to remove01:21
topyli:\01:21
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clasttopyli, weird! well, how can i get everything undone?01:22
j2daoshok so u pop in the cd... restart the comp... it does its install thing and then after it "completes?", it takes you to a console?01:22
topyliclast: i also have dbus 0.3 and not the 0.6 you're installing01:22
topyliclast: no need, nothing has been done :)01:23
Bizzehok, i pop in the dvd, reboot, i get the "what language do you want" "what locale do you want"01:23
Bizzehthen it asks me what resolution i want01:23
j2daoshok01:23
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Bizzehthen it shows the blue "ubuntu" logo in the middle of the screen01:23
clastclast, but rhythmbox needs 0.6, and yeah synaptic says i have 6 broken packages! which are all dbus packages01:23
j2daoshso good so far01:23
clasti meant topyli01:23
Bizzehafter it gets to HP printing stuff01:23
Bizzehit stops01:23
Bizzehand goes to a console01:23
pinucsetis there any emule for kde? something like kmule :S01:23
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j2daosh....hmmm.01:24
Bizzehprocessor is a amd64 x2 420001:24
Bizzeh1gb ddr40001:24
j2daoshcheck and see if the gui is installed by hitting alt f701:24
topyliclast: run sudo apt-get -f install to fix broken packages01:24
Bizzehnforce4 chipset01:24
j2daoshor ctrl alt f701:24
topyliclast: just apt-get -f install with no packages defined01:24
Bizzehpci-e ati radeon x70001:24
j2daoshone of those01:24
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Bizzehreboot and find out now?01:25
Bizzehgimme 2 mins01:25
j2daoshno... u can just hit the ctrl +alt + f701:25
j2daoshor alt+ f701:25
j2daoshsee if it gives you a gui01:25
j2daoshman01:25
clasttopyli, http://pastebin.com/48703601:25
topyliclast: let me see if rhythmbox's versin requirements have changed01:26
prollihey guys01:26
Draken./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:26
j2daoshhey prolli01:26
Draken            CAN SOMEONE HELP ME FIx this ? ta01:26
prolliis anyone here feeling to know about the package structure in dapper?01:26
j2daoshwell im not an expert... but i think u might need to go get that lib from somewhere01:26
topyliclast: hrm. needs fixing01:26
apokryphosDraken: please drop the caps.01:27
j2daoshprolli... are u saying your gonna explain it to someone or your asking for it to be explained to you?01:27
clasttopyli, well, i just did it. we'll see what's gonna happen01:27
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greenpenguin13Draken: have you got the SDL libs installed?01:28
prollij2daosh, explaining to me. i have problems installing the libgtkglextmm1-dev through apt-get01:28
Drakennope greenpenguin13 , but i dontr where to get01:28
Toma-Draken: Some Debian and Debian-based distributions ( like Ubuntu ) are crashing during startup. It appears this is caused by the SDL packages selection. You need to install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead of libsdl1.2debian-all.01:28
topyliclast: you'll need to reinstall  tomboy, update-notifier after that, they will be removed01:28
j2daoshoh... lol no i dont know anything about it... i was hoping you were gonna explain it to me :)01:28
clasttopyli, i know01:28
prollij2daosh ;)01:29
greenpenguin13Draken: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-oss01:29
clasttopyli, thanks for trying to help me. i gotta go now! :)01:29
HappufHow do i extract .tar.gz in console?01:29
tronixHow do I install ucspi-tcp? It's in multiverse and I've got multiverse listed for us.archive.ubuntu.com in sources.list but can't fetch it?01:29
Drakenta green01:29
topyliclast: then you might as well try installling your new dbus packages :)01:29
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topyliclast: before installing those01:29
clasttopyli, i'll try that01:29
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Drakenerr greenpenguin1301:29
Drakenits installed01:29
topyliclast: rhythmbox does indeed need the new dbus. things have changed in dapper01:30
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greenpenguin13lol thats weird01:30
Toma-Draken: libsdl1.2debian-alsa01:30
dekohaloo01:30
topyliclast: my build still went well with the old one01:30
Drakenk ta toma01:30
clasttopyli, but i think some apps will have a problem with a new version of dubs, since they are compiled against the older version01:30
Toma-Draken: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82837.html01:30
tronixHappuf: tar zxf filename.tar.gz ?01:30
clastdbus01:30
dekoJm 1 st time of line01:30
Happuftronix: thanks I'll try.01:30
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dekohaloo01:30
dekohaloo01:30
topyliclast: you'll see when you try to install the new one and then those two packages01:30
dekohaloo01:31
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Toma-Draken: also, try running  ./quake4 +set s_driver oss01:31
binaryhello01:31
clasttopyli, okay, i really have to go! thank you again :) i might come back to you for some more help and to tell you if it worked01:31
topylilater01:31
clastbye01:31
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sexcopter8000mis there a list of apps that are covered by backports?01:33
tronixucspi-tcp's in the pool for multiverse:01:33
tronixhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/ucspi-tcp/01:33
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tronixbut can't seem to fetch it via apt-get01:33
tronixwondering if I'm missing something simple?01:33
Bizzehwhen i alt+f7 i just get a black screen01:33
j2daoshwhat about ctrl+alt+f701:34
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Bizzehsame01:34
Toma-Bizzeh: whats your point/problem?01:34
j2daoshok go back to f1 screen01:34
Azuregos 01:34
topylitronix: that's a directory see what the actual packages are called01:34
tronixahhh01:34
Bizzehj2daosh: its this system, so i gotta keep rebooting01:35
j2daoshtoma... he is trying to install kubuntu and it sounds like it is hanging during the install01:35
tronixso I must not be specifying the right source in sources.list. okay.01:35
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Bizzehwhen i go back it gives me the same console again01:35
j2daoshbizz... u shouldn't have to reboot01:35
Azuregoshi pediki !!!!01:35
Bizzehj2daosh: im in windows now01:35
phreak97what video players do people recommend?01:35
Bizzehso i can use irc01:35
Toma-Bizzeh: to get back to X, you need ctl-alt-f801:35
topylitronix: actually, there seem to be no packages there01:35
Toma-sometimes...01:35
phreak97Bizzeh, use xchat under linux01:35
phreak97for irc01:36
apokryphosphreak97: xine, kaffeine, totem, vlc -- take your pick01:36
Bizzehphreak97: gladly, if i can get linux to install01:36
topylitronix: they're probably just planning, "some day we'll build a package for dapper, from these sources"01:36
phreak97oh lol01:36
j2daoshok bizz... u do know xchat comes for windows 2...01:36
tronixtopyli: hrmm interesting. see what you mean. hmm. I'll probably do it from sources then :) thanks!!01:36
phreak97Bizzeh, does it loop at setting the user account?01:36
Bizzehj2daosh: yeah but its crap01:36
Toma-Bizzeh: why wont kubuntu install?01:36
topylitronix: since the debianized sources are there, you can probably build a package quite easily01:37
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tronixtopyli: ah! point. groovy -- I'll go hit the manual for package building. :) (I've been using Ubuntu for about 3 hours now, but saw it in docs earlier -- looks slick)01:37
phreak97apokryphos, which do you use?01:37
j2daoshok... just wanted to make sure u knew... ok... one thing ur saying is confusing me... ur on windows but your trying to switch screens? or u are on a windows box and your trying to switch your ubuntu screens (different computer completely)01:37
topylitronix: search for apt-howto01:38
apokryphosphreak97: Kaffeine only, but they're all ok.01:38
athlonGuys, I could use some help, I think the admins are blocking access to ubuntu.com, internet connection work fine but it simply cant access anything from ubuntu.com01:38
Bizzehok, it asks for language and locale, then does a load of checking the system and dvd, then asks me for the resolution.. then gives me the black kubuntu loader with the blue logo with the pos bar with the text telling me what its doin, it gets to hp printing and imaging then drops to a console and sits and does nothing01:38
phreak97well ill grab that and see, cos mplayer isnt being what i want it to be01:38
tronixtopyli: thanks again!01:38
athloncould  someone tell me where I can  download proftp and proftpd-common package for breezy ?01:38
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Goshawkhow can i say to ubuntu to don't mont the winxp parttion at boot, but mount it if i want to?01:38
Bizzehits kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso01:38
phreak97apokryphos, im using gnome, does that matter?01:39
Goshawkathlon, apt-get?01:39
apokryphosphreak97: nope01:39
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phreak97says its for kde 301:39
athlonGoshawk,  doesnt work it stil tried to access ubuntu.com01:39
tronixgoshawk: something like this in /etc/fstab:  /dev/foo1 /winxp ntfs  noauto  0   001:39
j2daoshit didn't ask you for your keyboard layout... didn't mention anything about partitioning ur drive.... nothing?01:39
Bizzehnone of that01:40
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Goshawkathlon, so your internet connection isnot good, try to do ping www.google.com in terminal and paste the 1-3 lines of output01:40
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Goshawktronix, thx01:40
athlonit works fine, just have to go through proxy01:40
athlonand I did set apt-get to use http_proxy01:40
tronixGoshawk: 'noauto' is the magic keyword; won't automatically mount01:40
topylitronix: chapter 6 is what you want01:41
j2daoshok... hold on... cuz i think ur trying to install a "live" version... if it was actually going to install it would ask you about partitioning information01:41
mjr3201:41
Goshawkif it doesn't work it has a connection problem01:41
mjroops01:41
athlonit just acting weirdly snce about two days ago, somtimes it work, most of the time it doesnt.01:41
tronixtopyli: thanks again :) bringing up now01:41
phreak97how come things say theyre made for kde but still work under gnome?01:41
Bizzehj2daosh: well this is the installer iso01:41
athlonI am downloading torrent, irc-ing, IM-ing, web surfing just fine01:41
athlonas I said, the proxy admin probably block access to ubuntu.com or something01:42
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Bizzehhttp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/ <<< i got breezy-dvd-amd64.iso from there01:42
Goshawkathlon, i can give you a link where you can download by http01:42
Goshawkbut its not good01:42
athlonthat would be great, thank you01:42
athlonwhy not ?01:42
Goshawkathlon, since ubuntu needs apt-get working for upgrading01:43
Goshawkathlon, hold on01:43
athlonif its a deb package, I could just dpkg -i <package> no ?01:43
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Goshawkathlon, yep01:43
Goshawkathlon, but maybe it needs dependencies01:44
Bizzehactualy, i didnt01:44
Goshawkand only apt-get can solte them01:44
Bizzehi ftp'ed into that server and got it from "/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/"01:44
Goshawkathlon, add sudo01:44
athlonaptitude says it only needs proftpd and proftpd-common01:44
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j2daoshim looking at that site now...01:44
Goshawkathlon, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all&keywords=proftp&sourceid=mozilla-search01:44
santoranzhay alguna mujer01:44
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phreak97whats kaffeine part, and why was it not found?01:44
ibmnotebooki receive thousands of packages with airsnort but i do not get any WEP password of 5 different wlans01:45
Goshawkathlon, use packages.ubuntu.com to locate packages and download the debs01:45
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Pygi!ati01:45
ubotu[ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1001:45
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Goshawkibmnotebook, can airsnort steal wep password?01:45
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athlonGoshawk, hehe, exactly my problem there. Cant connect to ubuntu.com01:46
Drakenwhere can i find id.so.conf01:46
Draken?01:46
ibmnotebookGoshawk I think so?!01:46
Goshawkathlon, so follow Bizzeh directive01:46
kevinzi remove gaim package and install gaim-2.0 by downloading the source and compiling it.. I wonder what should i do with this manually installed programs. Could I remove it when I want to install higher version gaim or want to apt-get gaim?01:46
wizardjameswhats a good p2p client?  (something better then limewire)01:46
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Goshawkathlon, get a mirror enter to it and download the package by hand01:47
Drakenwhere can i find id.so.conf?01:47
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sire1maye anyone knows what alternative tool exists on windows system like linux has ifconfig?01:47
Goshawkor add a ubuntu mirror that's not ubuntu.com in your sources.list01:47
athlon!mirror01:47
ubotu[mirror]  repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive01:47
athlonI hate that01:47
Stew_Lappysire1 - ipconfig01:47
athlonubotu told me to check wiki.ubuntu.com :-)01:47
ubotuathlon: I haven't a clue01:47
Goshawkibmnotebook, i never used it, but if it do it and it works i should use it :D01:47
sire1Stew_Lappy: thanks01:47
athlonchicken and Egg !01:47
Goshawkathlon, there is google01:47
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Goshawkathlon, find a ubuntu mirror and add it to sources.list01:48
j2daoshit looks like a good install .iso.... i dont know why its not trying o actually install though. is there any difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?01:49
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tronixgawd, this is great... 'apt-get -b source ucspi-tcp && dpkg -i ucspi-tcp_0.88-9_i386.deb' and I'm in business.01:49
Goshawkathlon, or access to it trought a internet proxy: you ---> your proxy ----> free proxy on internet ---> ubuntu.com01:49
ibmnotebookGoshawk ok i'll tell you, maybe tomorrow01:49
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Goshawkibmnotebook, :D i'm already downloading it01:49
Bizzehj2daosh: kubuntu installs kde instead of gnome when it comes to install the gui later01:50
vwshello01:50
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j2daoshahh...so that is why it is 300+ megs bigger then ubuntu... i was wondering about that01:50
athlonah, it worked when I specify in sources.list only to use us.ubuntu.com instead of just ubuntu.com01:51
athlonguess the local mirror of ubuntu.com is down or not properly configured01:51
ibmnotebookhow to install an enhanced desktop on an easy way?01:51
Goshawkathlon, :D good01:51
Goshawkathlon, now an apt-get :D01:51
topylitronix: yes it is :)01:52
kevinzIf i could not use apt-get to install certain program but make and make install it, do i have to remove it also when i install a new version>01:52
j2daoshi dont know why ur install is hanging at the hp part...i dont know why its not asking about the drive partitions or how much the swap should be or anything about the 3 button mouse...01:52
j2daoshsomethings not going right though because the language, keyboard, partitions should be the first things to be setup right after it does a disk check and starts the kernel from dvd01:53
Goshawklunch time, bye01:53
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Pygignomefreak: ping01:54
Pygiathlon: no, the mirrors are NOT down01:54
j2daoshbe back in a few minutes01:54
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athlonshrug, dunno then. everything work expect when I try to access ubuntu.com without specyfing us.ubuntu.com01:55
Drakenwhere can i find id.so.conf?01:56
athlonwhew, at last ! it worked01:56
Toma-Draken: you mean ld.so.conf ?01:56
Drakenya01:56
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Toma-/etc/ld.so.conf01:56
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HendikinsKarlosII: I show up in the strangest of places, don't I?01:56
KarlosIIlol01:56
phreak97can i do an action as super user without using console?01:56
athlonI had to SSH to an AIX server, compile a bittorrent client in AIX, change the Python Module Path, download the movie through bittorrent, install proftpd, then put the downloaded movie to my computer using ftp01:57
zamuroI'm trying to install a data cable on breezy, but seems like not dettected... In fact, nothing happens after I lsusb... any suggestions?01:57
athlonall that for a porn movie01:57
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KarlosIIHendikins: just installing ubuntu on my house box which all comps will network too01:57
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KarlosIIgotta configure fw as well on that box01:58
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KarlosIIinstall nx01:58
Pygi!patience01:58
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.01:58
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KarlosIIand setup a web server01:58
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KarlosIIie gallery01:58
Hendikinsgallery? I use album.pl myself01:59
KarlosIII really like gallery personally01:59
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zamuroI'm trying to install a data cable on breezy, but seems like not dettected... In fact, nothing happens after I lsusb... any suggestions?02:00
HendikinsKarlosII: My main reason for using album.pl is that it was fairly painless to set up, and simple enough. Example: http://www.hendikins.id.au/cgi-bin/album.pl?album=nsw/sydney/nye-0502:00
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Toma-zamuro: data cable to what?02:01
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KarlosIIi c but not as much features, and my backup is for gallery02:01
zamuroToma-: To a Sony Ericsson mobile02:01
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mullemeckI just installed pro-ftpd, but I can't seem to login. Is there anything I need to do to enable login for system users?02:01
Toma-zamuro: i dunno how the phone works, put do you need to press sync or connect or something?02:02
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Stormx2ok, how do I run commands on startup?02:02
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wizardjamesStormx2,  , system> prefs>sessions>startup02:02
Toma-Stormx2: what kind of commands?02:03
Stormx2Cheers02:03
wizardjamesi think02:03
zamuroToma-: It's not that... the cable seems not to be detected... I use lsusb and shows only usb devices i _know_ are also connected.02:03
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Toma-zamuro: the cable is a cable. you dont need drivers for a cable02:03
topylizamuro: phones and linux don't necessarily get along very well. you might be in for a good googling session02:03
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wizardjameswhats the free chat ubuntu room?02:03
ArXoniKhi, i have an absolutely n00b question, how do u uninstall programes u compiled from source and installed via make install script?02:03
Toma-wizardjames: #ubuntu-offtopic02:03
zamurotopyli: Been weeks doin that02:04
topylizamuro: i know i never had a phone that would work with linux without some fiddling02:04
Stormx2wizardjames: #ubuntu-offtopic i think02:04
Toma-ArXoniK: you cant. thats why you using "checkinstall" instead of make install02:04
wizardjamesyep, thanks02:04
topylizamuro: and they say it should work?02:04
phreak97phreak97@phreak:~/.libdvdcss-1.2.9$ sudo make install02:04
phreak97make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.02:04
phreak97what does that mean?02:04
Toma-phreak97: means you cant make install02:04
Stormx2phreak97: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:05
ArXoniKToma-: so i just delete all the files that were copied over various places in the /02:05
zamurotopyli: Actually, I found an application wich seems to sync the phone... But worths nothing if I can't get the cable do something else than a USB charger :S02:05
NewIRCwhen is the next version of ubuntu out ?02:05
Stormx2zamuro: What phone?02:05
Toma-ArXoniK: yep. OR, get checkinstall from apt-get, then go back into your source dir, and run re-make it and run checkinstall instead of make install. then use apt-get to remove the package name thats created02:06
zamuroStormx2: A Sony Ericsson t23002:06
ArXoniKToma-: thanks a loads ;)02:06
Stormx2zamuro: Are you trying to use multisync?02:06
topyliNewIRC: august02:06
Toma-ArXoniK: good luck with it :D02:06
NewIRCgood thanks topyli :)02:06
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Toma-phreak97: what did the make command actually make?02:07
zamuroStormx2: OK... Now you're talking new stuff to me... Can you explain to me that?02:07
Toma-what file/s?02:07
Stormx2zamuro: Multisync is usually lot a what of syncing is done with02:07
Stormx2zamuro: its an application02:08
phreak97Stormx2,  was right Toma-02:08
zamuroOK... I'm already apt-get'in it02:08
Toma-hu?02:08
Stormx2phreak97: Hmm?02:08
LordLuclessIm getting a really wierd intermittent error in X on Ubuntu02:08
Stormx2Oh right yeah =)02:08
phreak97it was Stormx2 phreak97: sudo apt-get install build-essential thats for the libdvd thing isnt it?02:09
LordLuclessEvery couple of days, my mouse starts drifting downwards, and keyboard stops responding02:09
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LordLuclessActually, I think it might more be gnome than X. Not sure02:09
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Stormx2build-essential installs what you need for building packages (make and such)02:09
zamuroStormx2: But, the problem is not about syncing... It's about ubuntu ain't dettecting the device02:09
Toma-phreak97: that error you posted means the makefile has no "make install" part.02:09
LordLuclessAnyway, if I logout and login again, the problem is fixed02:09
Stormx2LordLucless: Sounds like X to me. Not sure whats causing it, though02:09
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Toma-meaning, build-essential wont help you02:10
phreak97Toma-, what do i do then?02:10
LordLuclessStormx2, yeah, the only reason I think it might be gnome is that logging in/out just restarts gnome doesnt it, it doesnt restart X?02:10
zamurophreak97: What u tryin to do?02:10
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Stormx2LordLucless: I think it does02:10
Toma-phreak97: tell me what the ouput from "make" was with a pastebin02:10
phreak97install libdvdcss02:10
LordLuclessHmm, ok02:10
Toma-output02:10
Toma-no02:10
Stormx2LordLucless: When you log out, it goes back to gdm, which is more a part of X than it is of gnome02:11
phreak97i pasted everything it gave me:/02:11
Toma-phreak97: so what did you run before make install?02:11
LordLuclessRight. Gah, I hate intermittent problems :(02:11
Stormx2phreak97: Are you following the readme?02:11
phreak97yeah02:11
Stormx2phreak97: And its saying you should make install?02:11
zamurophreak97: Did you tried apt-get install that?02:11
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phreak97yeah02:12
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phreak97Stormx2,  ill send you the readme, you tell me what to do02:12
phreak97i dont understand it all02:12
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Stormx2Well then i take it the package isn't broken and you just need to install build-essential. Thats my 2 cents02:12
zamuroHmmm... Sometimes, i download the deb package from packages.debian.org and dkpg it... Seems to work most of times02:12
leandro_hi all. I'm having some delays on ssh connections. Do you have any tips on this issue?02:12
Stormx2zamuro; me too =)02:12
Toma-phreak97: from the bare source (which is a kinda silly thing to do with ubuntu) you should only need to run "./configure" then "make"02:12
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zamuroStormx2: So, you're a former debian user too :=02:13
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zamuro:)02:13
phreak97i have to be in the directory its in before i do ./configure right?02:13
Toma-phreak97: yes02:13
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topylizamuro: if there really isn't an ubuntu package, or a dapper source package, you'd be better off building packages from debian sources than using their binaries02:13
phreak97ok, i reckon ill be able to do it now02:14
phreak97it says: If you have player keys, you need to put them in the file csskeys.h, before02:14
phreak97configuring libdvdcss to enable the "key" method (the one from libcss).02:14
phreak97wtf does that mean?02:14
zamurotopyli: Well... You've got a point. But, since Ubuntu is a Debian-based distro, shouldn't be a problem.02:15
phreak97i feel like such a windows user lol02:15
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phreak97guess i am still02:15
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Toma-phreak97: why install libdvdcss 1.2?02:15
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Tomcat_phreak97: If you have the private key of an official DVD player (PowerDVD or something), you can put it in... afaik02:15
Toma-why not use libdvdcss2?02:15
Tomcat_phreak97: But you don't need the key method anyway, because DVD keys can be cracked on-the-fly02:15
topylizamuro: so is linspire, but it doesn't make it binary compatible with either debian or ubuntu02:15
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phreak97Toma-,  i dont know02:16
phreak97i thought this was the latest02:16
phreak97fuck02:16
Toma-hehe no.02:16
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Tomcat_phreak97: There are also packages for libdvdcss... no need to compile.02:16
Toma-http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/02:16
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RoggSalutations All02:16
zamurotopyli: Yup... I know that. But, as far as I'm concerned, I had no problems so far installing .deb packages from debian packages site02:17
topylizamuro: it's your system, hack away :-)02:17
zamurotopyli: LOL... Thanks :)02:18
phreak97Tomcat_,  where do i get then?02:18
SeveasTomcat_, making my highlight flash helps :p02:18
Tomcat_phreak97: Toma- http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/02:18
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Tomcat_Seveas: I don't think we'll go any deeper into libdvdcss anyway :P02:19
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gorskihow to play wmv files, please?02:19
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Signifer123what version?02:20
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Signifer1238 or 902:20
Toma-gorski: you need w32codecs02:20
Toma-!w32codecs02:20
ubotu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:20
gorskiwhere can i get them02:20
gorski?02:20
Toma-check that out gorski ^^^02:20
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McJerrysometimes the obvious eludes those who think too much02:21
Tomcat_Sometimes is euphemistic, McJerry.02:22
McJerryeveryone have a good day, am off to work for the man02:22
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jde#kubuntu02:23
Toma- /j :)02:24
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Christian`and whats the difference?02:24
Christian`between ubuntu and kubuntu :p02:24
Pygignomefreak: ping02:24
KarlosIIMcJerry: I know what u mean, the simplest things elude me sometimes I always have complicated soltuions02:25
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Pygiubotu: tell Christian about kubuntu02:25
Pygi!ubuntu02:25
ubotuwell, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards02:25
Pygi!kubuntu02:25
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/02:25
NewIRCUbuntu  use Gnome and Kubunt use KDE02:25
Pygior just read up :P02:25
Christian`ah02:25
Christian`:)02:25
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Christian`kubuntu sounds like "kunterbund" in german :p02:26
Christian`which means sth. like colored02:26
phreak97do i want 20050412-0unofficialubuntu2 or 20050412-0unofficialubuntu1 ?02:26
phreak97for the win32 codecs02:26
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Pygihuh, use whatever you like02:26
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Johnny0Good morning all02:28
kremontewhat's the problem?02:28
KarlosIIJohnny0: giving other ppl u dun know access to your box is not a good idea02:29
phreak97is ubuntu debian gnu/linux, mandrake linux, fedora core, or what?02:29
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Drakendebain02:29
phreak97thanks02:29
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Johnny0When I boot up - it brings me to CLI02:29
Johnny0I have to "startx" to get into the desktop enviro02:30
KarlosIIphreak97: it's a offspring of debian/gnu linux02:30
HendikinsHow is this looking for a quick and dirty start to proceedings? http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html02:30
Tobbe|LiveCDI can't get any sound through my analog spidf output. The regular headphones output works fine. What could the problem be?02:31
cvt|gnuyearhow do i get a system monitor as that on this desktop?   http://foto.urosevic.net/albums/screens/snimak_ekrana_Ubuntu_gnagt.sized.jpg02:31
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Pygicvt: are you by any chance from Croatia?02:32
kremonteah, thinking of sound, any idea why the 'master sound' controls won't work for XMMS?02:32
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: thats gkrellm02:33
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cvt|gnuyearPygi, no02:33
Pygicvt: oh,k, you posted croatian link :P02:34
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Pygicvt: thats a GTK widget or somethin'02:35
Pygi!widget02:35
ubotuPygi: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:35
Pygihuh :/02:35
lotusleafSomeone on digg submitted a story about "nubuntu", but I didn't find any results for it (with a dot org on the end) on the ubuntu forums, is this something new, or a fake?02:35
Pyginubuntu? heh??02:35
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Pygithat doesn't exist :/02:36
paolobciao a tutti!! ho lo screensaver di X che mi friza el pc ubuntu. Se lo apro friza tutto. Come faccio per disabilitarlo senza aprirlo? grazie!02:36
Pygikubuntu, edubuntu, ubuntu, and xubuntu there is02:36
lotusleafThen anyone else on digg should inform the poster: http://digg.com/mods/nUbuntu_-_Formula_One_Released02:36
Pygipaolob: #ubuntu-it02:36
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lotusleafPygi, thanks, I figured it was an error02:36
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JaredHow do i get limewire installed02:36
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stark-johanI've edited my sources.list to include a dapper-line (I want to install a dapper package in breezy) but when I do "sudo apt-get build-dep rythmbox" i get "Couldn't open /var/lib/apg/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources (File does not exist). HAve I missed something?02:36
tronixlotusleaf: I think it's an offshoot of Ubuntu; not official one from the Ubuntu team. see: http://nubuntu.org/02:37
lotusleaftronix, ah so it's not official, thanks.02:37
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kremonteany idea why my 'master sound' controls won't work for XMMS?02:38
Jaredahhh shit i have to use java.....i can't get java to install for NOTHING02:38
paolobHi guys! The screensaver freezes my pc, either when it enters automatically and when I try to conifigure it. How can I disable it without opening its preferences? thank you!02:38
tronixstark-joh: try 'apt-get update' to rebuild apt source info?02:38
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Pygilotusleaf: what the hell is that nUbuntu????02:38
__Dwayneq: why are some windows too big for my display, and how do I adjust their size?02:39
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tronixsome kind of network ubuntu distro for purposes of security scanning and stuff, I think?02:39
tronix(re: nUbuntu)02:39
lotusleafPygi, I don't know, I didn't bother to visit the site, I was looking at new news stories on digg and someone submitted it, I came here after searching ubuntuforums and google to get more information02:39
JaredWhich java should i get jre or what?02:39
lotusleaftronix, i'd rather trust official ubuntu for security rather than a distro "based" on ubuntu. To call it 'nubuntu' IMO is insulting02:39
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tronixaye02:39
Pygilotusleaf: I visited the site, but I don't think they are allowed to use Ubuntu name as they are not affliated with canonical02:40
tronixguess it's more of an optimized LiveCD-type thing02:40
__DwayneJared: I installed jre..02:40
tronixfor a particular set of apps02:40
phreak97ok, i got that going, now where do i get win32 codecs?02:40
lotusleafPygi, indeed, perhaps some official ubuntu and/or canonical reps may want to look into this quickly.02:40
Chousuken00buntu :(02:40
Pygilotusleaf:k, I'll inform someone :) thanks for that02:40
lotusleafPygi, yw :)02:41
cvt|gnuyearwhen i close terminal gkrellm closes, too. is that supposed to happen?02:42
ptomesHello, could please somebody tell me how is l10n import in rosetta from upstream handled? Why we (czech team) have many packages partly translated although we have them fully and correctly translated in upstream?02:42
Johnny0There was a cool system monitor I came across that did a transparent overlay on the screen - anyone know which package that is ?02:42
cvt|gnuyeari'd like to know too02:43
Jaredhow do i convert a bin file or what do i need to do with .bin files?02:43
Johnny0Jared - you can turn a lot of things into bricks with .bin files :)02:44
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Jaredwhat is the page to java installing on ubuntu02:44
PygiJared: run .bin file02:44
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ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy02:44
Pygi!java02:44
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:44
__DwayneJared: chmod +x {.binfile}02:45
Jaredkk02:45
Pygilotusleaf: k, authorities informed :) investigation pending :)02:45
Pygilotusleaf: ping02:45
lotusleafPygi, great :) thanks02:45
zixwhere can i get some cool fonts?02:45
Pygilotusleaf: thank you :)02:45
Pygiubotu tell zix about fonts02:46
lotusleafPygi, :) yw02:46
__DwaynePygi, know why I can't view all of some windows open? why they are too big for my desktop?02:46
phreak97win32 codecs? where to get?02:46
Stormx2!w32codecs02:46
ubotuw32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:46
PygiDwayne: well, can you resize them?02:46
Tobbe|LiveCDHow do I get sound through my spdif port?02:46
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__DwaynePygi, nope, can't resize them..this always happens when I access system settings..02:47
phreak97thanks02:47
Pygidwayne: huh, whats your resolution?02:47
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cvt|gnuyearmy date suddely says los angeles. any ideas how to get my date back?02:47
Stormx2Pfft. I'm down to following my own how-to lol02:47
KarlosIImountmount02:48
__Dwaynepygi 1024x768..max supported by my display (laptop LCD)02:48
Pygicvt: use "date"02:48
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kremontehow can i mass untar a bunch of .tar.gz files? man tar isn't helping :(02:48
Pygidwayne: try reducing resolution, and tell me what happens?02:48
flight_mastertar zxvf *.tar.gz02:48
__DwayneI only have one other option..800x60002:48
cvt|gnuyearPygi, what do u mean?02:48
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Pygicvt: command is called "date" :P02:49
flight_masterkremonte, try that :)02:49
kremontekay02:49
cvt|gnuyearPygi, gkrellm seems to have taken over the terminal02:49
Pygicvs: huh :/02:49
__Dwaynepygi: all of the windows are too big then..I reset it back..02:49
Jaredis there not an easier way to install java?02:49
lotusleafPygi, I hope that doesn't make the frontpage of digg, it's getting a lot of diggs, I posted a comment but if it hits the front page it's going to create a lot of confusing news ;/02:49
__DwayneJared: nope..02:49
Pygidwayne: huh, configured X?02:49
cvt|gnuyearPygi, i can't run "date"02:49
__DwaynePygi: configured X?? please elaborate02:50
cvt|gnuyearPygi, the terminal won't let me enter commands02:50
Pygilotusleaf: please gimme a link to the dig once again, and please talk me about it privately so you don't spam channel02:50
Pygicvt: huh, why not?02:50
cvt|gnuyearPygi, because of gkrellm02:50
Pygihuh :/02:50
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kremonteflight_master: same error as before, tar: filename: Not found in archive ><02:51
Johnny0Is there anyway to reinstall the gnome desktop for ubuntu without screwing things up ?02:51
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stark-johanhow do I install a newer version of libdbus-glib-1-dev? I need it to install newer version of rhythmbox, I have dapper main restricted in my sources.02:52
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KarlosIIqtparted safe to resize hdds nowadays?02:52
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Stormx2Yay i can now explore my smartphone =)02:53
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ppdhello ! just a question: how do you umount your usb sticks? how long do you wait until unplugging your stick after having clicked on eject in gnome?02:54
Pygistark-johan: sudo apt-get upgrade02:54
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alexwillmerppd, I wait no time, once the icon disappears I consider it safe02:54
Pygippd: umount /dev/sdX02:54
Stormx2ppd: If you clicked eject in gnome and the icon is gone, its umounted02:54
ppdno02:55
Jaredi went to create a folder on my desktop and it said i don't have permission to write there....wtf?02:55
ppdit isn't. with larger amounts of files umount takes much longer than the icon disappearing02:55
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JaredHello? any help ppl02:56
PygiJared?02:56
ppdI have tried that on 2 computers with breezy installed ! one with usb 2.0 the other with 1.102:56
JaredJared? what?02:56
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Jaredi can't write to my DESKTOP02:56
ppdalexwillmer: how is your stick mounted? sync?02:56
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Jaredi can't create or move anything to it.....how do i fix it Pygi?02:57
alexwillmerppd, whatever the defaults are02:57
ppdalexwillmer: is it a fat stick?02:57
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stark-johanPygi > apt says that i have the latest version of libdbus-glib-1-dev but when i try to apt-get build-dep rhythmbox I get "libdbus-glib-1-dev does not fulfill version requirements"02:58
Johnny0Found it ! osdsh02:58
alexwillmerppd, erm?? The device is a 60GB 2.5" USB 2 HD, with a VFAT partition02:58
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JaredLord....can't anyone answer me please?02:58
PygiJared: huh? who's the owner of "Desktop"?02:59
Johnny0!osdsh02:59
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xiaogilHow to watch "DVDSCR-xvid" movies, it's actually a directory that contains many files, I don't know how to watch it, does anybody know ?02:59
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Jaredlike my Desktop02:59
ppdalexwillmer, but you can't tell if you copy let's say 50 MB and then click eject it's unmounted in a second and all data is written ?!02:59
Jaredand it just started where i can't write to it02:59
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TotalNewbHello all. I have a lexmark Z515 printer. I went to the lexmark web page and it only has windoze and Mac drivers for download. Could I still use this printer? If so how please?02:59
Johnny0ubotu tell me about osdsh02:59
Pygi!printer02:59
ubotuwell, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org02:59
KarlosIIjared do u know how to modify file permissions?02:59
PygiTotalNewb: read it02:59
Jaredyeah02:59
Pygistark: file a bug02:59
Jaredah.........02:59
Johnny0!ubotu tell me about osdsh02:59
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PygiJared: yesh, who is owner of your desktop directory?03:00
KarlosIIjared make sure u set the right group too03:00
alexwillmerppd, I've always treated it as something that, 'Just Works'03:00
stark-johanpygi > Maybe I'm doing something wrong?03:00
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TotalNewbCool :) Thanks :)03:00
KarlosIIand right owner03:00
Jared.hrrrrrr..........it is set to root....wtf it was just on my group...gotta go root....brb03:00
Pygistark: don't know what :/ packages in dapper are often broken tho :/03:01
KarlosIIPygi: lol03:01
ppdalexwillmer, then I suppose your hd is mounted sync or something like that... My stick takes about 20 seconds to unmount after having copied 50 mb03:01
KarlosIIPygi: sum1 inexperienced is playing with heir permissions03:01
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PygiKarlos: what's funny? :)03:01
alexwillmerppd, I've copied large files and then unmounted and unplugged without delay, I've not noticed corruption03:01
Johnny0Jared - you don't have to reboot to go root03:01
Johnny0lol03:01
KarlosIIpygi: noob's :P03:01
PygiKarlos: nobody is a noob, NOBODY, remember that....03:01
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alexwillmerppd, your stick will be flash, which is slow to write to, perhaps my HD has the same behaviour, but the dely is smaller03:01
stark-johanEveryone's a noob sometime...03:02
Pygihe/she can only be a beginner, and everyone was beeginer at its time....03:02
KarlosIINOOB03:02
ppdalexwillmer, same behaviour with my usb disk03:02
KarlosII:P03:02
Pygiand btw. nobody can know anything03:02
KarlosIIstark even me03:02
alexwillmerppd, disk as in spinning platter with magnetic read head?03:02
Stormx2>_< I'm probably 99% n00b when it comes to linux lol03:02
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Stormx2I still managed to write a how-to =) but still03:03
HendikinsOh dear. I haven't even marked my ubuntu distronotes doc and done, and I've already been asked if it can be dumped in the wiki verbatim. Is this a bad sign? :P03:03
Pygistorm2: what about?03:03
kremonteanyone have any idea why my gnome sound 'master' control won't control my xmms sound? :(03:03
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Johnny0it's called ignorance Pygi - everyone is ignorant to many things - just as I have vast knowledge of large Wireless networks - I do not know shit about Linux / Ubuntu - been with a woman for 5yrs and don't know crap about that either !03:03
stark-johanI love ubuntu allready, if I only could make the ipod work everything would be great.03:03
ppdalexwillmer, no one of those harddisks with a usb port03:03
Stormx2Pygi: Syncing Smartphones03:03
Pygistorm2: heh, interesting :)03:03
Siruhmm03:03
alexwillmerppd, that didn't enlighten me03:04
Stormx2Pygi: It was bloody differcult to do beleive me o.O03:04
PygiJohnny: You'll learn, slowly :)03:04
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Stormx2Pygi: Any occasionally someone comes in and ask =)03:04
Pygistorm: heh, but you did it :) congrats on that :)03:04
lotusleafstark-johan, there are programs for the ipod in linux03:04
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ppdalexwillmer, wait. I'llt tell you the time it takes when I umount my USB FLASH stick after a 50 mb copy process03:04
KarlosIIHendikins: lol better hide for a bit :P03:04
stark-johanlotusleaf > yep, but my gtkpod hangs when i try to d/l the db from the pod.03:05
lotusleafstark-johan, bummer ;(03:05
KarlosIIu mean I can connect my ipod mini to linuc now?03:05
Pygiyesh03:05
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stark-johanand I've tried installing newer (dapper) versions of rhythmbox and gtkpod but I'm having dependency troubles.03:05
alexwillmerstark-johan, what model of iPod, perhaps it's newer that03:06
Pygistark: huh, dapper has packages problems :/03:06
alexwillmerthan your version of gtkpod can handle03:06
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Pygistark: most of them is inherited from breezy, and they don't work well :/03:06
hyakuheippd:  the reason is that in some circumstances the kernel does not copy the files over untill it is told to unmount the disk, ie, it caches all operations then dumps them on the disk at the end03:06
hyakuheithough to the user it appears that it as all happening in real time03:07
ppdhyakuhei, I like that behaviour as sync mount on fat destroys the disk early03:07
stark-johanalexwillmer > an ipod mini, bought about one year ago03:07
hyakuheiaye03:07
ppdalexwillmer, real    0m17.434s03:07
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ppdhyakuhei, but the icon should disappear AFTER umount03:08
hyakuheitrue03:08
stark-johanpygi > ok, maybe I'll have to wait and see if it will get fixed. I reckon it's a quite common problem so let's hope for the best.03:08
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Pygik, g2g03:08
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hyakuheidoes the icon disapear when you unmount using the right clicked option on the icon?03:08
Siruhmm03:08
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ppdhyakuhei, instantly03:09
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ppdhyakuhei, also when I'm umounting the stick on the console03:09
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ppddisappears a few ms after ENTER03:09
Ninjaahi guys, im trying to get videos workin in firefox. Do i need mplayer and i cant find it in the SPM03:09
hyakuheippd: i dont know, to do with the gnome/hal stuff for sure, but i cant say specifically what03:09
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hyakuheiNinjaa: you most likely will need mplayer03:10
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Ninjaacan i get that from the SPM ?03:10
_thomas_where are the types rlim_t and sig_atomic_t declared?03:10
ppdhyakuhei, If one could hack pmount/gnome-volume-manager source to get a progress bar (with zenity maybe ;-)) I'd be happy ... :-(03:10
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ppdhyakuhei, but I can't code. so I have to live with that until dapper (maybe) ?!03:10
alexwillmerppd, ouch. I assumed the icon was there until sync was complete. Beyond the length of the delay, which is likely flash write or usb 1.0 bus speed, I can't suggest anything03:11
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_thomas_where to find the types rlim_t and sig_atomic_t???03:11
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_thomas_they aren't defined int sys/types.h03:12
Toma-_thomas_: they looks like symbols...03:12
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Toma-_thomas_: whats this in reference to?03:12
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ppdalexwillmer, hyakuhei, thank you very very much ! I think is clearly a usability bug... :-/03:13
_thomas_it's an exercise in a book to print the size of this types03:13
NinjaaAnyone know how i install mplaer ?03:13
Ninjaa* mplayer03:13
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KarlosIIis it not in your repository?03:14
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alexwillmerNinjaa, use the Package Manager (synaptic), or from the commandline sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mplayer03:14
Toma-Ninjaa: you need to enable multiverse and universe, then run apt-get install mplayer03:14
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Johnny0Anyone listen to radio from xm-radio.com ?03:15
Ninjaai think ive got it, thx guys03:15
kremontewhere do i configure the gnome keybindings?03:15
Johnny0Thanxs for sticking around Ninjaa :)03:15
Stormx2Pygi: Yeah I did sync it in the end =) It was kind of complicated and it requires the kernel source and such03:15
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phreak97i cant extract multi part rars03:17
phreak97what should i use?03:17
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Hellsashesphreak: are you using the app rar?03:17
phreak97i thought it was a command line app03:17
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KarlosIIphreak97: u should rar03:17
KarlosIIit is03:18
KarlosIIapt-get install rar03:18
__Dwayneanyone know anything about why certain windows display too large for the screen?03:18
xukunwhich bittorent client can I best use for ubuntu?03:18
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phreak97is there not one with a gui?03:18
HellsashesYes it is, if you don't have it just do a sudo apt-get install rar if you already have it, just type rar e nameofrar.rar or whatever the extension is .r01 or whatever03:18
KarlosIIunrar e "foo.01.rar"03:18
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Hellsashesin my experence the graphical archiver doesn't work well with rar, its best to just use the command line with that I think03:18
gorskihow to enable 4 speakers in alsa player?03:19
Stormx2to unrar you need unrar-free and unrar-nonfree03:19
KarlosIIno03:19
KarlosIIrar comes pacakged with it03:19
Stormx2really?03:19
Stormx2hmm.03:19
ManifoldWhat's with the padlock on a .deb file on my desktop?03:19
KarlosIIlemme dbl cehck that03:19
ManifoldWhat does it mean?03:19
Toma-Manifold: you probably downloaded it with root?03:19
ManifoldI just clicked and downloaded it from FF.03:20
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Toma-hmm03:20
ManifoldBut I did use sudo mv on it03:20
xukunwhich bittorrent client are u guys/gils using?03:20
KarlosIIStormx2: it mus because I dun have any of those pacakges installed u mentioned03:20
alexwillmerManifold, the padlock means read only IIRC, right click and choose properties, then set permissions if you're the owner03:21
Toma-Manifold: there u go03:21
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Toma-actually, mv should change ownership03:21
Toma-*shouldnt03:21
ManifoldHm.03:21
ManifoldWhat's the delete command?03:21
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Chousukerm03:21
gorskimy sorround players are not working, maybe some idea, please?03:21
ManifoldKK,03:22
Toma-rm03:22
KarlosIIsudo mv will change ownership03:22
alexwillmerManifold, if you used sudo mv, then root is the owner of the file, use sudo chown to make yourself the owner03:22
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HendikinsI must be crazy. Writing docs for a distro I don't use, then putting them in the wiki :P03:22
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KarlosIIlol03:23
KarlosIIHendikins: u're work is mucha ppreciated03:23
gorskitnx03:23
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ManifoldHow do I install .deb files?03:24
Toma-Hendikins: what are u writing a wiki about?03:24
ManifoldI know you guys diapprove of it, but I want to try..03:24
Toma-Manifold: dpkg -i filename.deb03:24
ManifoldThanks.03:24
PygiLotusleaf: ping03:24
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Toma-Manifold: .deb files are fine. aslong as theyre for ubuntu, not debian.03:25
HendikinsToma-: I wrote this quick and nasty doc, and I've had a request to wikify it: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html03:25
Hendikinsand hey, what else am I going to do at 0125?03:25
raphinkManifold: why do you want to install a deb file?03:25
alexwillmerxukun, just gnome-bittorrent for casual stuff. I'd use Azureus if I weredoing it seriously03:25
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ManifoldBecause I want to install Mahogany Mail03:26
Draken!usb03:26
ubotuNo idea, Draken03:26
Drakenhow do u mount a usb harddrive ?03:26
xukunalexwillmer, thanks03:26
Pygiwith mount03:26
PygiDraken, I told you that 50 times :/03:26
PygiLotusleaf: ping03:26
ManifoldErrors all over the place, never mind then. :/03:26
Drakenerr ,its my first time asking03:26
Toma-Hendikins: imho, there a heck of alot of this stuff on the wiki forums at the moment anyway... what hasnt been done (that i know of) is a pictorial/screenshot wiki using synaptic to enable universe and add packages like these.03:26
alexwillmerDr_Acemaster, mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 assuming 4 or 5 things about your situation03:26
phreak97ok, i have archive manager working rar's now03:26
phreak97thanks03:26
alexwillmersorry Draken03:27
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PygiDraken: mount /dev/sdX location03:27
HendikinsToma-: The AddingRepositoriesHowto doesn't cover enabling them adequetely?03:27
ManifoldIt kind of installed Mahogany Mail, but didn't.03:28
ManifoldSynaptic found it, but said it was broken.03:28
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stark-johanI downloaded a deb-file from the forums, how do I install it? (gtkpod_0.99.2-1_i386.deb)03:28
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Pygistark: dpkg -i filename.deb03:28
Mabus06sudo dpkg -i *.deb03:28
Pygihuh, yes, sudo thingy :P03:28
Toma-Hendikins: i spose. but i think it needs to go further :)03:29
Stormx2;-) I always forget that one03:29
Pygistormx: hehe :)03:29
HendikinsToma-: The main reason I wrote the plugindoc page was as an extension of my own documentation. I quite honestly hate wikis.03:29
Mabus06Toma-, that's the beauty of a wiki... go ahead.03:29
ManifoldHow does someone change a .deb file built for debian to a ubuntu one?03:30
KarlosIIlol03:30
ManifoldIs it very hard?03:30
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KarlosIIManifold: why?03:30
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PygiKarlosII: what is it now? :P03:30
Toma-Hendikins: same.03:30
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Toma-Mabus06: id love too but im too busy :/03:30
allison_1984stark > dpkg -i gtkpod_0.99.2-1_i386.deb03:30
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ManifoldBecause there are some programs that don't have a compile binary for ubuntu.03:30
KarlosIIPygi: lol@mabus03:30
Manifoldcompiled, KarlosII03:30
omerlhHow can I load usb modules?03:30
raphinkManifold: this is either synching or merging03:30
fizzlemy fluxbox runs slow when switching styles and stuff how do i fix this03:30
PygiKarlos: what he did?03:30
HendikinsToma-: I've had the odd request to wikify plugindoc.mozdev.org - and as I say every time, "over my dead body"03:31
jasehelp please :( i've set up my network card, it's enabled in network settings and i can ping other network computers, but i can;t access the internet.03:31
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raphinks/synching/syncing/03:31
Pygiubotu tell fizzle about fluxbox03:31
KarlosIImanifold u can the backport depository which will have it03:31
Pygi!patience03:31
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.03:31
Mabus06What did I do, KarlosII?03:31
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bipolarI think amarok can do ipod syncing too03:31
ManifoldAha..03:31
KarlosIIMabus06: your wiki comment03:31
raphinkManifold: if there's no change to apply to the deb, then we just sync it with Debian03:31
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raphinkManifold: if there are things to change in the deb, then we merge it03:31
HendikinsToma-: Valid question though. What existing document on the wiki is a one stop doc for installing Firefox plugins?03:31
raphinkManifold: come to #ubuntu-motu to talk about that03:31
ManifoldAnd how do you do all that, raphink ?03:31
ManifoldOK03:31
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KarlosIImotu?03:32
stark-johanYEAY! I got it working. I compiled gtkpod from source and now it works! I only can find one song but atleast i can open the ipod in gtkpod.03:32
KarlosIIwhat is motu?03:32
Toma-Hendikins: id say alot of ubuntu'ers will look to firefox for supplying that info.03:32
ChousukeMasters of the universe03:32
__Dwayneanyone at all know why some windows display too large for my screen resolution (1024x768) and how I can resize them?03:32
Chousuke;P03:32
PygikARLOS: universe keepers :) they hold the key :)03:32
Pygi!motu03:32
ubotuI heard motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )03:32
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raphinkKarlosII: motu = Masters of the Universe03:32
raphink;)03:32
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raphinkthe devs behind the universe repository03:33
HendikinsToma-: Guess who maintains the docs used on that end? Yours truly.03:33
Pygithey should be named keepers of the universe :/03:33
Toma-Hendikins: nice job :)03:33
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deltronthe restaraunt at the end of the universe03:33
deltron;)03:33
HendikinsToma-: However, I maintain generic instructions, which is where the doc I whipped up comes in to play.03:34
Toma-i see03:34
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HendikinsThat doc is ubuntu-specific instructions for ubuntu users03:34
norwix hey ^^03:34
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Toma-Hendikins: well it looks nice!03:35
HendikinsI'll whip up one for SuSE (the distro I use myself), probably fedora, and possibly Gentoo as well.03:35
Drakendoes anyone know how to do commands at startup ??? automaticly03:35
PygiDraken: cron?03:35
Pygi!cron03:35
ubotuPygi: Not a clue03:35
HendikinsThe folks in #debian have managed to put me off-side a bit though, so *shrug*03:35
Toma-Draken: what kind of commands?03:36
Toma-sif cron03:36
Drakentoma03:36
Drakenconsole commands03:36
PygiHendikins: what happened?03:36
PygiToma: heh ;03:36
Toma-Draken: like "sudo blah"?03:36
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Drakenya03:36
Toma-or like "killall esd"03:36
blue-frogDraken, system>pref>session03:36
Drakenits all the same thing03:36
Toma-Draken: what command..?03:36
cvt|gnuyearhow do i keep xine from resizing the window for me?03:36
HendikinsPygi: I get somewhat pissy about them patching it up the wazoo then sending users upstream for support (given upstream = #firefox on moznet, and I'm basically in charge of it)03:36
Drakentoma03:36
Drakenbrtctl coammnds03:36
laIaidokaToma- I used to write that one all the time, but these days you can disable esd from the menus03:36
ManifoldHey, is sudo a debian specific command too?03:37
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cvt|gnuyearwhen i go from movie track to movie track in a folder i want to keep the screen size of xine the same, how?03:37
laIaidokaManifold: nope03:37
laIaidokait is standard...03:37
PygiHendikins: huh, thats bad :/03:37
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HendikinsYeah, sudo(8) is standard03:37
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Drakenbrtctl coammnds03:37
Toma-Draken: System > Preferences > Sessions03:37
Manifoldhttp://www.ss64.com/03:37
ManifoldThat says it's OSX.03:38
Toma-then click startup programs03:38
Pygilotusleaf: ping pong?03:38
xxenonhow/what defines the smtp daemon used to send emails using the "mail" command ?03:38
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Drakentoma03:38
HendikinsPygi: As the #firefox SOP (the "founder" is the services admin, who doesn't use the channel), I find it somewhat annoying having to redirect users back to downstream. Doesn't help the users either.03:38
Drakenim in kubuntu03:38
Toma-ahhh03:38
PygiHendikins: true :/03:39
Toma-make a script with the command in it, then put it in ~/.kde/Autostart03:39
zalaamhi, gnome don't work anymore, if i start the comp i get to the login manager and then it just stops after i've logged in :-(03:39
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omerlhHow can I load usb modules?03:39
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Pygizalaam: reconfigure X server03:39
DrakenToma-,  wat *. is script ?03:39
Pygiomerlh: modprobe03:39
Pygi!modprobe03:39
ubotuPygi: Are you on ritalin?03:39
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Toma-zalaam: have you tried "Failsafe Gnome" under the login screen sessions list?03:40
Pygiyes, I am, stop saying thing like that :P03:40
omerlhIt said module don't exite or something03:40
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omerlhFATAL: Module usb_uhci not found03:40
zalaamToma-: mm, don't work, i'm in "failsafe terminal" now03:40
Johnstaaaaaarrrhi, is it possible to install ubuntu over network?03:40
Toma-zalaam: try looking at ~/.xsessionerrors03:40
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kino-takHAPPY NEW YEAR!!!03:41
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PygiJohnstar: yes03:41
kidsdido03:41
DrakenToma-,03:41
greenpenguin13HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!03:41
zalaamToma-: okei, thanx, brb03:41
Drakenwat is a script files . wat ?03:41
kidshuh?03:41
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MASTERMIND2222hi03:41
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kino-takwhy doesnt ubuntu come with "mail" command included?03:41
Toma-Draken: um. "cd ~/.kde/Autostart/ && touch drakenscript && chmod +x drakenscript" then put the command into ~/.kde/drakenscript with your favorite text editor03:42
kidsidk yourcrazy03:42
Johnstaaaaaarrrany online documentation for it Pygi?03:42
Pygi!network install03:42
ubotuWish i knew, Pygi03:42
Toma-Draken: its a little tiny program i guess03:42
jimmy13632Does anyone know how to setup the cedega demo in ubuntu?03:42
Pygihuh :/ just a moment...03:42
DrakenToma-, , yes dude, but wat file type is it ?.\03:42
Draken.txt03:42
Draken.moo03:42
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Draken.cow03:42
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Toma-Draken: file extensions mean noting in linux03:42
kino-takI need 'mail' shell command for ubuntu03:42
MASTERMIND2222how to install linux from iso without burning ?03:42
Toma-it can be a .cow if you want :D03:42
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PygiJohnstar: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/03:43
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Johnstaaaaaarrrthanks mate03:43
jimmy13632Does anyone know how to setup the cedega demo in ubuntu?03:43
PygiJohnstar: np03:43
Toma-jimmy13632: demo?03:43
ManifoldDoes su have the same affect as sudo?03:43
Pygikino: well, install it....03:43
Toma-Manifold: nope03:43
Pygijimmy: you can use CVScedega for free.03:43
jimmy13632yes from the transgaming website03:43
ManifoldWhat's the diff?03:43
jimmy13632it's a timed trial03:43
PygiCVScedega is free...03:43
Pygigo use that :P03:44
kidsidont understand!03:44
kino-takok I'll try03:44
Toma-Manifold: su uses the root user evironment varables where as sudo uses the users environment03:44
Pygikids: huh03:44
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gorskihow to automaticly save session???03:44
ManifoldOK, Toma-03:44
sleptI got aproblem with amd64 and libgl :annot open shared object file: No such file or directory, any ideas03:44
jimmy13632how would you setup CVSCedega, because I have no experience in CVS trees03:44
Pygijimmy: huh, just a second, I'll give you link03:44
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jimmy13632ok03:44
gorskiplease.03:45
Pygijimmy: here you go03:45
Pygihttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4503:45
jimmy13632thanks03:45
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Pygigorski: you mean when restarting or wat?03:45
gorskiyeas03:45
gorskiyes03:45
gorski?03:46
Pygiyou have that little checkbox "save current setup" or whatever03:46
Pygiand please be patient :P03:46
Pygi!patience03:46
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.03:46
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FlyingPenguinhello :)03:47
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FlyingPenguinI have a little problem with a breezy,03:47
Pygifire away03:47
lodosmerhaba03:47
lodoshello03:47
__Dwaynestill has his question about windows that won't display properly.03:47
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Pygidwayne: huh, yesh :/03:48
FlyingPenguinThe linux is instaklled on an "old" pc, so I disabled many things to increase a little bit the speed...03:48
deltronok03:48
Pygiflyingpenguin: you can "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"03:48
Toma-gorski: click System > Preferences > Sessions, then check the "Automatically save sessions" and OK03:48
__Dwaynepygi, some windows don't size properly--I can't see the whole window. Mostly this happens in System Settings..03:48
PygiDwayne: yesh, I know :/03:49
lodosheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy03:49
Toma-FlyingPenguin: i feel like your going to ask a question.... plz hurry it up :D03:49
FlyingPenguinbut now, when I shut down, it don't turn off the power to off by himself, I have to press the power button, what should I make that I had unmade ?03:49
gorskiok, how to disble clock syncronising when starting ubuntu?03:49
PygiDwayne :please try to run "sudo dexconf:03:49
gorskitnx, for that one.03:49
Toma-FlyingPenguin: you turned off acpi didnt you03:49
Pygigorski: with rc update?03:49
gorskiyes03:49
Toma-update-rc.d -f stop ntpupdate ?03:49
__Dwayneok.. it came back to a prompt after I entered the sudo pasword03:50
Toma-or something03:50
FlyingPenguinToma-, yes you'r right but I think I turned it on now, how to check this correctly, I used update-rc.d...03:50
blue-froggorski, renmae/delte /etc/init.d/ntp03:50
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jasewhy do i get the error 'you have to type an alias first' when i try and add a DNS03:50
Toma-blue-frog: dont do that03:50
PygiToma: use this: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate03:50
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Pygibluefrog: no, no, and no :P03:50
blue-frogToma-, too late working fine...03:50
Toma-Pygi: why would someone want to do that?03:50
gorskiagain, please.03:50
Pygicause, then it would not run :P03:50
sleptis there a special channel for amd6403:50
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Pygigorski: use this: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate03:51
PygiIn Gnome, you can also deactivate it going to the menu option System -> Administration -> Services03:51
FlyingPenguinnoone ? is there a ncurses tool for managing services (all my services aren't in the grayman phical tool)03:51
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FlyingPenguin*graphical03:51
Toma-ummm gorski: to disable the update like you asked.... run "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove"03:51
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Pygihuh, Toma :/03:51
mweToma-: it's a good way of turning of a service temporarely since it wont run if it's not executeable03:52
Toma-"gorski ok, how to disble clock syncronising when starting ubuntu?"03:52
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gorskiok, that was it, tnx!03:52
Toma-why change permissions? thats just silly.03:52
Pygitoma: and my solution works well :P03:52
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Pygitell me why not to change it :P03:52
mweToma-: it's not silly03:53
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Toma-thats a perfectly good system in place. why not use it?03:53
mweToma-: id you use update-rc.d you have to remember what number the service was running as and in what runlevels to add it back03:53
Toma-and keep a 'proper' system :D03:53
blue-frogtoma cause when u have no internet  connection it takes forefever to load..03:53
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Toma-no. you use defaults03:54
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Toma-blue-frog: im talking about update-rc.d as oposed to rm -rf + chmod hacks03:54
Pygitoma: you can't get this battle :)03:54
Pygithis is not a hack :/03:54
Toma-it is03:54
mweToma-: rm -rf?03:54
Toma-someone said to rm/mv03:55
Pygiit's just :  sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate03:55
Pygino rename/remove03:55
mweToma-: ok that's stupid03:55
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Pygimwe: agreed03:55
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Toma-youve still got the system calling that command. so in essence, it'll still be slower than using update-rc.d even if it is 0.01ms :D03:55
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Pygibut chmoding works fine :P03:55
FlyingPenguinno idea, I think that maybe with the defaults option, the acpi is stopped before being used to power off the computer03:56
PygiToma: but it's the better way :P03:56
Toma-its not!03:56
Toma-my god.03:56
Toma-youre all mad03:56
mweToma-: however I like the chmod -x to temporarely disable a service. btw I got the idea from a debian developer on some web page03:56
PygiToma: nobody is mad :P03:56
zixguys03:56
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zixdo you know some good fonts to use for whole GNOME?03:56
zixi mean, for the titlebar and GTK apps and stuff..03:56
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Toma-bah. im not going to be a commie about it :) do what you will, im not going to fsck my system with that kind of admin03:57
mwezix: bitstream-vera03:57
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vulturesrowhey all, what are the reasons to _not_ upgrade to firefox 1.503:57
zixbitstream-vera?03:57
Toma-zix: ubuntu-ttf :D03:57
PygiToma: huh, that is neither hack, neither nothin', it;s good solution03:57
ProzacHmmm... need some help, im reading the starter guide to ubuntu in the wiki. In part 8 about GRUB it says i have to go to system -> admin -> boot, but there is no boot in my list...03:57
Toma-Pygi: like i said.03:57
zixubuntu-ttf?03:57
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FlyingPenguinvulturesrow, some extensions that are not ready maybe but it seams to be a good idea however ;)03:57
Toma-zix: im kidding. its the font the ubuntu title is done with03:57
PygiTome: huh :/ I feel that should be discussed03:58
Toma-ive got it for my wm font03:58
zixhmm..03:58
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Toma-Pygi: feel free to discuss it. you wont be hearing my opinion on it anymore03:58
vulturesrowflyingpenguin, I just wasnt sure because I thought I read somewhere that it could break some "stuff" in the standard Breezy setup??03:58
zixToma-, how to install that font?03:58
sleptwhich gcc is normaly used with breezy ?4.0 ?03:58
PygiToma: huh, why not? :/03:58
Toma-Pygi: im not in -offtopic03:59
Pygiubotu tell zix about fonts03:59
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Pygitoma: that's not offtopic03:59
zixi mean where to find it?03:59
FlyingPenguinvulturesrow, hum I am not familiar with ubuntu so I :x for this ;)03:59
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Toma-zix: i cant remember. ill find it for ya03:59
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vulturesrowflyingpenguin, you realize this is the #ubuntu channel, right? ;)03:59
zixToma-, k, thnx ^_^03:59
Toma-zix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle04:00
mwePygi: he just haven't got any good arguements why it's a bad idea, I guess. I think it's a fine solution and at least one debian developer seems to agree04:00
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone04:00
FlyingPenguinright right but I just installed ubuntu on my granmother pc, i am most fedora usual...04:00
Toma-mwe: hahah. :) whatever.04:00
FlyingPenguinhi Inf3ctedFx04:00
zix404 error :{04:01
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FlyingPenguin(and sorry for my crappy english....I'm french)04:01
Pygimwe: k04:01
vulturesrowflyingpenguin, ok I'll forgive you ;)04:01
Toma-zix: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle maybe?04:01
Pygimwe: Altought I never had the need to remove it on any of servers I installed, servers get reebot like every 2 years anyway :P04:02
zixToma-, no i mean the download link is 40404:02
FlyingPenguinvulturesrow, huhu isn't english tje international language ? ^^04:02
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Toma-zix: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf-ubuntu-title/ttf-ubuntu-title_0.1-1_all.deb04:03
zixToma-, thnx ^^04:03
Toma-np =^.^=04:03
zixalright04:04
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zixToma-, what font size do you use with it? and do you use it around your whole interface?04:05
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Drakenwhere can i get on-board sound card drivers04:05
Drakensound coming out of linux is really bad04:05
Toma-zix: i only use it for the window title04:05
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Toma-and its about 1204:05
zixToma-, k04:05
FlyingPenguinoho I foud something on google let's test it...04:06
Drakenwhere can i get on-board sound card drivers04:06
Drakensound coming out of linux is really bad04:06
Draken!sound04:06
ubotusound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary04:06
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Toma-Draken: how do you mean "really bad"?04:06
Draken!sounddrivers04:06
ubotuDraken: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!04:06
zixToma-, and for the rest? i mean, Sans gets bored04:06
DrakenToma-, , scratchy04:06
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jendaYo folkes - I need a little help with my NVIDIA driver.04:07
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vickyhallo iedereeen04:07
zixhoi vicky04:07
mcquaidhello all, i've had alsa audio issues ever since upgrading from hoary to breezy which i have not been able to resolve04:07
Toma-zix: i dunno :) have a look around http://www.acidfonts.com/ for something cool04:07
zixToma-, yea cuz i got all sorts of fonts here but they're only of use in designs04:08
mcquaidi was in the #alsa channel last night and crimsun tried to help me, but he couldn't resolve it either04:08
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mwe!tell mcquaid about nvidia04:08
jendaI updated the kernel, and X won't work with the driver on anymore.04:08
Toma-Draken: open up a mixer (alsamixer is my favorite) and check to see if PCM or Master isnt set to 100. set them both to about 74/80 area.04:08
mwe!tell jenda about nvidia04:08
Toma-zix: ahh04:08
mwemcquaid: wrong nick, sorry :)04:08
mcquaidnp04:08
Toma-zix: plain and simple is best for a general font.04:09
jendamwe: thanks, but I'm in CLI now... any tips for CLI browsers?04:09
mcquaidwell basically, i get choppy audio when using alsa, either by hardware or dmix, but strangely esd via alsa or oss emulation is fine04:09
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zixToma-, yup and where to find those? ^^04:09
diederickhi there04:09
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Toma-hehe04:09
mcquaidalsa doesn't always give me choppy audio, it's seem dependant on the rate of the file04:09
mwejenda: what do you mean. like a web browser? w3m or lynx04:10
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Toma-zix: the default fonts are pretty plain and simple. just click thru them till you find something04:10
sleptjenda: links2 -g04:10
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__Dwaynepygi: I ran the command, it did nothing04:10
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fizzlehey what is roots default password because i cant login as root04:10
diederickI'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 (i386) on a AMD 1000mhz, computer, but its 'hanging' on "Detecting hardware....", how long should I wait?04:10
fizzleit never asked me during the setup to put in a password for root04:10
Drakenwhere can i get drivers for sound card onboard04:10
zixToma-, and something new?04:10
mwejenda: yeah or elinks. w3m should be installed be default04:10
mcquaidthere is no root by default fizzle04:10
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fizzlemcquaid, o because it keeps asking me to put in roots password04:11
gnomefreakdiederick, on that step should only take a few secs to a min04:11
mcquaidby default the first user has admin privledges via sudo04:11
jendaOK, thx04:11
mwethere is indeed root by default, but he doesn't have a password04:11
diederickhmm strange, what can be the problem than?04:11
mcquaidit should never actually ask you for root, it should be saying your password04:11
Toma-zix: no idea. i just use sans. :(04:11
zixToma-, :{04:11
zixanyone else?04:11
diederickalso my keybord doesn't 'work' anymore...04:11
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PygiDwayne: restart X server04:11
Drakenfizzle,  if it asks for root password04:11
Drakenu are installing server04:11
zixsome font for general use which is something new?04:11
Drakennot normal04:11
fizzleplease enter roots password to run gdmsetup04:11
diederickno04:11
fizzleyes it is server04:12
diederickoh04:12
Drakenlol told u04:12
Drakenserver will ask for root04:12
fizzlei installed server mode for optimized performance04:12
Drakenlol04:12
Drakennoob ;P04:12
fizzlebecuz of my memory issues04:12
fizzleso :/04:12
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vickyhallo iedereen04:12
Drakenserver is for SERVERs04:12
Draken:P04:12
dukebodyhello anybody can $telnet pop3.telefonica.net 110? i'm having problems with my pop server and i don't know if there is a server problem or the problem is in my system-04:13
fizzleDraken, not exactly. there is a wiki page for people with low memory and they specifically tell you to use server mode04:13
zixopentype ^_^04:13
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vickyhello everybody04:13
cycomDraken: a system is whatever you make it.04:13
butcherbirdfizzle: u might just apt-get xubuntu-desktop04:13
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fizzlebutcherbird,  and that is?04:13
Drakenfizzle, server just means it isnt set up for you04:13
Drakenno DE or anything04:13
gnomefreakxfce meta package :))04:13
fizzleDraken,  thats wat i wanted04:13
fizzleDraken, so i can install it myself04:14
vickytz04:14
Drakenlol04:14
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Drakengay :P04:14
vickyja04:14
vicky :d04:14
peryhow i can patch madwifi drivers for monitor mode????????04:14
diederickgnomefreak, do you maybe know why the install isn't working? it stops sometimes at the keyboard selection, and hardware detection04:14
fizzleDraken, it may be to you but not me.04:14
fizzleDraken, also im not a noob so pls dont imply it ;)04:14
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Drakensure u not :P04:15
gnomefreakdiederick, is it a disk you burned?04:15
fizzlehehe ive been programming in linux for over a year and a half now ;)04:15
diederickyes I burned it on a CD-R04:15
mwepery: unless google can help you find a patch that does what you want, you gotta edit the source code yourself, I guess04:15
vickyeej04:15
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gnomefreakdiederick, what speed did you burn it on?04:15
vickytwenty four04:15
perymwe ok :D04:15
cycomfizzle: Ah, but it is no quantity, but quality.04:16
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diederick16x04:16
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fizzlecycom, heh04:16
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gnomefreakdiederick,  try burning it again at the lowest speed possible04:16
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zixahh04:16
fizzleanyways04:16
zixso their name is screenfonts04:16
diederickbut do you think its a CD problem?04:16
sire1__is it possible to install debian packages with dpkg -i without having any problems with dependencies and so on..?04:16
zixToma-, search for "screenfonts" ^_^04:16
vickyLAURA RULEZZZ04:16
fizzleim new to ubuntu so is there a different routine for installing the nvidia graphics drivers?04:16
cycomDraken: what do you do with your machine(s)?04:16
butcherbirdfizzle: you wanted to enable root pass?04:16
vickyoeps :s04:16
diederickI can boot from the CD,04:16
fizzlebutcherbird, yes04:16
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Drakencycon, mostly programming in linux04:16
Drakenand windows for games04:17
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luis_holaaaaaaaaaaaa04:17
cycomDraken: what kind of programming?04:17
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fizzleDraken, ahhh i use linux for games, so much better even in cedega04:17
mwefizzle: did you read the nvidia wiki?04:17
gnomefreakdiederick, well its either that or bad iso image i dont think its the pc since it stops at different places04:17
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fizzlemwe, nope thats why im here trying to find a link to it04:17
Drakencedega doesnt work with ubuntu dont think04:17
cortez_how do i make iptables load at boot?04:17
mwe!tell fizzle about nvidia04:17
zalaamgnome will not start, .xsession_errors says: window manager warning: lost connection to the display ':004:17
diederickok04:17
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fizzleDraken, im sure it does, just not for you ;)04:17
kino-takhow do I create a new user guys?04:17
kino-takthis is easy, come on04:17
mwefizzle: see what ubotu /msg'ed you04:17
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fizzlemwe, yeah04:18
fizzlemwe, ty04:18
Draken!cedega04:18
ubotucedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/04:18
dukebodykino-tak, maybe with $adduser04:18
kino-takok, thanx04:18
dukebodyhello anybody can $telnet pop3.telefonica.net 110? i'm having problems with my pop server and i don't know if there is a server problem or the problem is in my system-04:18
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cycombah.  I haven't got time for games.  I use my machines for work!  Only one of my machines has Windows on it, my laptop, and it dual boots ubuntu!04:18
gnomefreakdiederick, i dont see the errors but i will tell you to burn it slower because its the easiest and alot of people dont know that you need to burn iso at low speeds04:18
jendaOK, it seems to be installing the driver... but it is also downloading the kernel, which I'm not sure I like... what is the newest 686 linux kernel?04:18
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squid0hi people04:18
zalaamgnome will not start, .xsession_errors says: window manager warning: lost connection to the display ':0'; most likely the x server was shutdown or you killed/destroyed the window manger. any1 knows what to do? i hate to reinstall, cause i've been working for a week now to get my system up running04:19
diederickoke thanx gnomefreak!04:19
gnomefreakyw04:19
Toma-kino-tak: System >Admin > Users and groups. Be sure to make the new user with their own /home dir, ad adduser command wont do it by default04:19
diederickdoes my computer has to be connected to a network?04:19
gnomefreakjenda,  stable kernel for ubuntu latest is 2.6.12-1004:19
squid0i had a normal ubuntu installed, and then installed kubuntu-desktop. however i see that xine and some related packages were removed by synaptic. any ideas why?04:19
__Dwaynedukebody: I can telnet just fine..04:19
jendaIt is installing Linux-image-1.6.12-10-686... ah thanx gnomefreak04:19
mwezalaam: reinstall. why you even think of that. that's the windows way of fixing things04:19
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gnomefreak2.6.12-10-686 sounds about right jenda if your on breezy that should be your kernel04:20
Fr0Gsif anyone can help me setup pppoe sharing to windows machines msg me plz04:20
kino-takduke: thank you , it works04:20
fizzlenow ubuntu is running alot better just need to get roots password set lol04:20
Toma-zalaam: try moving .gnome2 and .gconf to a backup dir then restart gnome04:20
zalaamToma-: alright, brb04:21
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Pygignomfreaky is here :P04:21
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gnomefreakgm Pygi04:21
Pygifizzle: do not set root password04:21
Pygifreak: good afternoon :P04:22
fizzlePygi, i need to do something04:22
jendagnomefreak, mwe, what does nvidia-config enable do? Does that only change the xorg.conf? If so I prefer not to do it (manually is the way :))04:22
__Dwaynefizzle: Use sudo..04:22
Pygifizzle: no, you don't need it....04:22
gnomefreakwhats wrong with sudo -i?04:22
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fizzleok nvm then04:22
afiefHow can i copy files(not ISOs) to a CD?04:22
Pygienabling root account break parts of ubuntu04:22
Pygiafief: yesh04:22
Pygiafief: with gnome baker let's say04:23
gnomefreakafief, what burner are you using?04:23
Pygior k3b04:23
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diederickgnomefreak, the LiveCD is for testing right?04:23
Pygiyesh04:23
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afiefpygi: hi dude:) installed KDE today. don't know what burner exactly... DVD+-RW04:23
gnomefreakdiederick, the livecd is used for people that want to try it out before installing it04:23
diederickCan't I just try that one, and than, if it works put the LiveCD on my maching? Or do I need to downlod the other ubuntu?04:24
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Draken!cedega04:24
ubotumethinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/04:24
Pygiafief: then use k3b :)04:24
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gnomefreakdiederick, if you hardware works with livecd more than likely it will work aftter install :))04:24
zalaamnot working, stops after the login manager04:24
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afiefpygi: haven't got time to get around all of KDE:) so a gnome solution would be nice for a starter like me04:24
Pygidiederick: you need to download install cd for now04:24
Pygiafief: ok, then use Gnome Baker04:24
diederickoke, wanna try to set the keyboard map, maybee something is wrong with tha, is "es" a good options for: bootkbd ?04:25
Pygidiederick: as of 6.04 Ubuntu will feature UbuntuExpress04:25
gnomefreakafief, use k3b its the easiest atleast for me you can choose if you are burning data music or or image :))04:25
Pygi!ubuntuexpress04:25
Kr0ntab!google04:25
ubotuPygi: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:25
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ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.04:25
Kr0ntabhehe04:25
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!google04:25
Kr0ntabsup folks04:25
Pygignomefreak: same with gnome baker04:25
Drakenerr, is tthere someone wrong with ubuntu site ?04:25
Drakeni cant get onto it04:25
PygiDO NOT ABUSE UBOTU, NOW STOP IT04:25
gnomefreakok04:25
PygiDraken: huh, it's all good :/04:25
xukunhow can I copy files from one linux machine to other linux machine on the same network?04:26
Drakenarg04:26
fizzledude this is sweet, i switched to ubuntu from slackware and my video card performance in glxgears doubled04:26
Drakeni need to read about cedega04:26
deltronlol fizzle04:26
fizzleim dead serious04:26
Pygifizzled: well, you didn't knew how to configure it properly :P04:26
zalaami need help getting into gnome, after the login manger nothing happens04:26
fizzlePygi, nope not true, i did what #slackware told me to do lol04:26
hyakuheixukun: ftp/scp04:26
PygiI use Slackware for 8.5 years now, and it works flawlessly :)04:27
fizzleslackware is nice04:27
fizzlei love it ;)04:27
Pygifizzle: well, you need to listen to me, not to them :P04:27
fizzleubotu, tell me about limewire04:27
hyakuheixukun: both good for the odd file04:27
fizzlePygi,  lol04:27
PygiI use slackware since 2.x so I guess I learned a couple of things :)04:27
deltroni started out in slack 3.5 way back when04:27
fizzlePygi, id say so lol. i been using it since 10.004:27
fizzleheh i only been on linux for a year or so now04:28
jendaOK, I need to know how to check if I have the rught kernel and NVidia driver. Can someone please tell me how? I need to know if it's 686 or 386, and if it's 1.6.12-10 or -904:28
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claudiuhappy new year!04:28
claudiuhi all!04:28
Pygideltron: Slack 3.5? huh :)04:28
athlonjenda, 'uname -a'04:28
zalaamjenda: uname -r04:28
claudiuhow can i see what files a deb package contains ?04:28
gnomefreakjenda, 2.6.12-10 not 1.6.1204:28
Pygideltron: slack 2.x series was better :)04:28
afiefpygi: where does gnome baker install? KDE added so much to my gnome menus that i'm having trouble finding anything04:28
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Pygiafief: it doesn't add to menu :/04:29
jendagnomefreak yup... :), athlon zalaam thx04:29
gnomefreakjenda if you want to check what kernel you are using run uname -r04:29
Pygisomebody is a bad maintainer :/04:29
claudiuhow can i see what files a deb package contains ?04:29
zalaami need help getting into gnome, after the login manger nothing happens, tried backing up .gnome2 and .gconf, don't work :(04:29
gnomefreakif you want all info uname -a04:29
Pygiclaudiu, read ubotu speaking04:29
deltronPygi: lol, it was like 10 years ago or something :P04:29
Pygi!patience04:29
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.04:29
Fr0Gsi have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?04:29
afiefpygi: what's it's executable name?04:29
claudiuPygi: ok04:29
Pygideltron: not 10, I would say 9 or like so when there was 2.x series :)04:29
Pygiafief: gnome baker :)04:30
Toma-zalaam: looks more deep seeded then. you may need to re-install metacity :S04:30
fizzle!javadebs04:30
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy04:30
Drakencan anyone get onto the wiki ?04:30
Pygideltron: entire slack is around for 10 years :P04:30
athlonCan someone please  give me a suggestion, what should I use to edit xvid file, to crop and/or extract audio from it04:30
athlonI usually use avidemux but theres no package for it in breezy04:30
zalaamToma-: alright, brb, reinstalling04:30
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PygiI never got my hands on Slack 1.0 :(04:30
jendaOK, now that'll tell me what kernel I'm running ATM, but I have a suspicion that I accidentally just installed 386, how do I know what kernel is set up for next time I boot?04:30
sportmanhey04:30
sportmanif i broke grub04:31
sportmancan i fix it from ubuntu live?04:31
afiefpygi: restarting now to see the KDE interface:) expecting a big surprise04:31
butcherbirdsportman: yes04:31
WildZeckspo0nman, yes04:31
Pygiafief: huh, I never liked KDE, but heh :)04:31
sportmanYey04:31
Pygisome people do, and I respect their opinion :)04:31
gnomefreakjenda, look in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to see what grub is going to boot to04:31
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sportmanalso i lost my ubuntu install04:31
Pygieverybody uses what he/she likes :)04:31
sportman:(04:31
jendak04:31
Pygihuh :/04:31
claudiui would like to know if there is a command for showing all the files that a deb package contains04:32
sportmanbut i still want to access my other two operating systems04:32
sportmanbut im giving up with ubuntu for now04:32
Pygiclaudiu: go to synaptic, choose package and click properties04:32
gnomefreakdpkg -L <packagename?04:32
Pygiand please be patient :P04:32
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claudiuPygi: ok. thanks04:32
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Pygideltron: what do you have agains 9 years old distro? :D04:32
butcherbirdclaudiu: try dpkg --contents filemane.deb04:32
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claudiuPygi: this was too easy. i was prepared for the CLI thing04:33
claudiu:)04:33
Pygiclaudiu: heh, wanna CLI command? :D04:33
deltronPygi: lol, nothing. :)  I should try installing it again lol, I still have the cd's04:33
Pygideltron: Do you have version 1.0? :)04:33
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PygiI want that :)04:33
deltronnope04:33
Pygihuh :/04:33
jendaOK... now what is the command to restart GDM?04:34
PygiI had 2.x series on a CD *original but lost them :/04:34
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Pygijenda: just use CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE04:34
butcherbirdjenda: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart04:34
jendathx butcherbird04:34
afiefpygi: i can't chose KDE:( it automaticly started gnome04:34
mcquaidhey i read on a general linux tips article that ctrl alt esc usually starts up the xkill option04:34
Pygiafief: you need to make it start kde :)04:34
afiefhow?04:35
mcquaidthat would be kinda handy04:35
Pygihave you installed kubuntu-desktop?04:35
mcquaiddoesn't work here though04:35
fizzleubotu, repositories04:35
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:35
afiefpygi: nope, did apt-get kde04:35
Pygiafief: hehe, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:35
Pygihuh, you also need kde-base, and configure it to run04:35
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afiefpygi: and what is kubuntu-live?04:36
Pygihuh,nothing for now :)04:36
Drakencan someone help me, i downloaded cedega binary, i type SH filename it seems to uncompress but thats it04:36
gnomefreakubuntu with kde livecd04:36
Pygignomefreak: no, thats not it...04:36
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triloghello04:36
mcquaidi've been pulling my hair out trying to fix my alsa issues since going to breezy when it was first released04:36
afiefpygi: wow... ever after i installed KDE, i still need 50 MB? that's a lot04:36
Pygignomefreak: thats a dependency of new UbuntuExpress installation04:36
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SnurfWhen I installed Ubuntu i installed GRUB on the master hard drive and I want it gone! How do i do this?04:37
Pygiafief: for kubuntu-desktop?04:37
gnomefreakPygi, oh ok dont know anything about ubuntuexpress04:37
mcquaidthe strange thing is i've always used my own precompiled kernel and compiled alsa from source, which i kept when going to breezy04:37
Pygidraken: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4504:37
afiefpygi: yes04:37
trilogi have samba, can somebody tell me howto samba printer share works?04:37
mcquaidso i don't understand having alsa issues when neither alsa nor the kernel were upgraded04:37
Pygignomefreaky: I was supposed to also developed that thingy :/04:37
Pygi!patience04:37
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.04:37
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DrakenPygi, , not that one04:38
Drakenits offical one04:38
butcherbirdSnurf: ?? you want to replace grub on mbr with something else?04:38
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cvt|gnuyearwhere's bittornado installed?04:38
SnurfYes I dont want grub there04:38
Pygiwhat do you want then?04:39
slumpywhats worng?? i have those irritating flashing vertical lines!!! and i cant get rid of them.....04:39
SnurfNothing04:39
slumpypls help...04:39
SnurfSlap your monitor04:39
slumpy=D04:39
gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, you have to install that gbittorrent is install by default04:39
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slumpythats not the way to solve this problem04:40
SnurfI need to know how to remove grub04:40
mcquaidanyone knowledgeable with alsa issues? specifically i get issues with when using dmix or alsa hw, but strangely not using esd piped through dmix nor oss emulation04:40
gnomefreakslumpy, it sounds like your video card either isnt configured right or you need drivers for it04:40
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Fr0Gsi have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?04:41
Fr0Gsi have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?04:41
claudiubutcherbird: Pygi : ok. thanks guys. you rock04:41
zalaamokei, tried reinstalling metacity nothing happens04:41
slumpyso where can i find those drivers its not like i could get those windos using.....04:41
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Pygiclaudiu: your welcome :)04:41
jendaBack, but still can't load X04:41
gnomefreakslumpy, first what kind of vc do you have?04:41
cvt|gnuyeargnomefreak, i need a bittorrent client that supports resuming downloads and one window for all files.04:42
zalaamcvt|gnuyear: azureus?04:42
gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, the one installed by default does if im not mistaken04:42
jendaCan someone please guide me through the installation of the Nvidia driver module (via CLI?)04:42
gnomefreakubotu tell jenda about nvidida04:42
cvt|gnuyeargnomefreak, not on mine, but i have dapper04:43
gnomefreakubotu tell jenda  about nvidia04:43
mcquaidi still use azureus but still find java to be a pig04:43
mcquaidwaiting for ktorrent to be updated04:43
jendagnomefreak that won't help, it's still the same04:43
slumpyuhmmm .. i  dont remember and i dont know where to look..04:43
gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, i havent used bit on dapper yet but im also on dapper :)04:43
SnurfI have Windows XP on my computer. I installed Ubuntu to my external hard drive and during installation I chose to install the GRUB thing on my main hard drive. Ubuntu had problems when booting and i dont know why so i uninstalled Ubuntu, now, when i start my computer grub says Error 21 or 22. I dont want grub there.... I want my computer to start up in Windows XP.04:43
hyakuhei!nvidia04:43
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:43
Pygi!patience04:44
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.04:44
PygiSTAND IN LINE AND WAIT FOR ANSWER :)04:44
gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, are you saying it doesnt do what you want or its not there?04:44
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butcherbirdjenda: what nvidia card do u have?04:44
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cvt|gnuyeargnomefreak, whatever client is there doesn't resume dl's or contain files in one window. apparently neither does tornado.04:45
jendabutcherbird: GeForce 204:45
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phreak97can someone help me install azureas?04:45
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Pygiphreak: sure04:46
Pygi!azureus04:46
ubotuit has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo04:46
Pygi!java04:46
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:46
Pygi!javadebs04:46
gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, im not sure than you can try that azureas but its very very java like :((04:46
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy04:46
butcherbirdjenda: what kernel 686 or 386?04:46
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jendabutcherbird 686, 2.6.12-10, and I have the nvidia-glx-legacy package already installed04:47
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Snurf I have Windows XP on my computer. I installed Ubuntu to my external hard drive and during installation I chose to install the GRUB thing on my main hard drive. Ubuntu had problems when booting and i dont know why so i uninstalled Ubuntu, now, when i start my computer grub says Error 21 or 22. I dont want grub there.... I want my computer to start up in Windows XP.04:47
phreak97i think i already have java04:48
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u|qoshey guys, i started dctc in a screen console, but i am unable to terminate it ... what can i do?04:48
__Dwaynepygi, I ran sudo dexconf and nothing happened..04:48
butcherbirdjenda: same as me all I did was sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-68604:48
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petroshi!04:48
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petrosi have ubuntu for amd6404:48
petrosnow i want to install skype binaries04:48
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Sychesnurf: Boot with a Xp disc and press R. Type Fixmbr yo rebuild the MBR04:49
PygiDwayne: yes, I heard :P Have you restarted X?04:49
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__Dwaynepygi: no..how do I do that?04:49
diederickgnomefreak, its at 77% of detecting hardware now, its loading: ide-generic, (which I think is hanging again :-(04:49
__Dwaynejust reboot??04:49
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petrosi get this error: ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:49
cvt|gnuyearhow advanced to i have to be to get doom 3?04:49
butcherbirdjenda: and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:49
jendaSnurf: there are instructions for 1) setting XP as default 2) hiding the grub menu on startup here: ubuntuguide.org but careful, don't use the guide on everything, some things are outdated.04:49
petrosbut libpong12.so.0 is in /usr/lib64/ installed04:49
diederickWhy, do you have to burn an iso at a slow speed?04:49
SnurfI dont have an XP disc04:49
SnurfMy computer came with it04:49
petrosare the 64 bit libs not compatible with 32 bit compiled apps?04:50
gnomefreakdiederick,  to make sure it copies everything04:50
jendaOK, butcherbird I didn't do the enable. Does that only change the xorg.conf?04:50
diederickoh oke04:50
PygiDwayne: CTRL+ ALT + BACKSPACE04:50
gnomefreakdiederick, its just one of those rules :))04:50
diederickand do you know what could be a reason, why its stopping on 77% now?04:50
diederickat loading module: ide-generic?04:50
gnomefreakdiederick, what kind of harddrives do you have?04:51
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phreak97ok thanks04:51
zixwhy is the ubuntu font not included with ubuntu? i mean it's a perfect font for daily use :}04:51
butcherbirdjenda: not sure it thats it or it configures module to load or what04:51
diederickIts a Maxtor IDE drive 7.5 gb04:51
jendaAlright... I'll do it then.04:51
gnomefreakubotu tell zix about fonts04:51
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gnomefreakdiederick, than im not sure why its hanging04:51
pkernHow could I use special keys on my keyboard?04:51
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Pygignomefreak; That won't help him :p04:52
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kevinzHi. I read the wiki and it says firefox from mozilla's site is faster than the one in ubuntu. It is recommended that I replace the default firefox?04:52
diederickDamn, it also again hanging at the first screen :-(04:52
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__Dwaynepygi Nope..same problem04:52
phreak97fucking asshole.. settle down after finally getting my tv working with linux, watch one episode of lost, then the one after it is the same one again renamed by some ass...04:52
gnomefreakPygi, i told him to burn it at lower speed that should have helped the issue04:52
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phreak97and with delayed sound04:53
jendabutcherbird OK, it won't run because my xorg.conf has been edited manually (many times :)) so I dunno what to do...04:53
phreak97complete waste of space04:53
Pygignomefreak: problem with ubuntu font? :)04:53
Pygidwayne: huh :/04:53
gnomefreakPygi, on no thought you meant someone else04:53
phreak97this is the reason why im working azureus04:53
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Drakencan someone tell me, can i use cedega to run a windows game off a ntfs drive ?04:54
phreak97Draken,  if you can, you wont be able to save04:54
butcherbirdjenda: maybe sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-old then dpkg --reconfigure xserver-org I think thats the right package04:54
HendikinsWouldn't advise it if the game needs to write anything04:54
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jendaAnd I have nvidia-glx-legacy, I have nvidia-settings and I have the restricted modules....04:55
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Drakenphreak97, i can change save path to local drive ?04:55
jendaok04:55
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phreak97Draken,  if the game lets you04:55
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HendikinsDraken: How long is a piece of string? Savegames may not be the only files that the game needs to write.04:55
phreak97things like that rely entirely on the game04:55
phreak97yeah04:55
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phreak97i was about to say that04:55
DrakenHendikins, only other thing would be confs04:56
diederickHmmmm also suse 10 is hanging on hardware detection04:56
__Dwaynepygi, it's darned annoying..some things require me to 'click administrator mode' and I can see the button to click it..04:56
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Drakenand they my windows confs04:56
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PygiDwayne: huh :/04:56
phreak97Draken, if you can, put the game on a non-ntfs partitions04:57
phreak97-s04:57
dotrigWhy is my imap dropping sqmail?04:57
HendikinsDraken: I'd also think trying to use registry data would be problematic.04:57
__Dwaynethanks for your help anyway..I posted this in kubuntu forums..maybe that will help..04:57
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zixrofl04:58
zix:o04:58
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zixthe ubuntu-title font OWNS04:58
jendabutcherbird no, that's not the reconf comand. I dunno waht is...04:58
Toma-zix: yep :)~04:58
zixonly the fact that there's no caps sucks04:58
zix:{04:58
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Toma-zix: u get used to it04:58
zixi know :p04:58
zixalso, Toma-, why don't you have the font enabled on the rest of your interface?04:59
butcherbirdjenda: ah sorry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:59
Toma-zix: it would make me go made.04:59
Toma-errr04:59
Toma-mad.04:59
Toma-zix: what a screenshot? :)04:59
zixyea04:59
zixwant a screenshot of my desktop? ^_^04:59
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jendabutcherbird yoba thanks :)05:00
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Toma-zix: http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/Screenshot.png05:00
sobersabrehi05:00
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sobersabreI'm trying to use gdb on amd64 ubuntu and it dies with sigsegv. ( yes, gdb dies, not my program ) anyone has any idea about this ?05:01
Kindreddoes anyone know of any (relatively simple) way to shrink dvd's so I can burn them to single layer dvd :|05:01
sobersabreKindred, not without quality loss.05:01
Toma-Kindred: you could use acidrip05:01
zixWOW wtf05:01
zixToma-, that's beautifull!05:02
Kindredsobersabre: yeah obviously :P05:02
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Toma-zix: thanks :)05:02
KindredToma-: will check it out thanks..05:02
zixyw :)05:02
sobersabredvd::rip, and then encode them as you please05:02
SycheI have pinned my Java deb, but when I enable the plf repos, it always gives me an option to upgrade it05:02
Toma-ive got a thing for ambient backgrounds05:02
SycheBoth are the same version05:03
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zixToma-, what theme you using there? and what programs are those on your toolbar? also, message it in pm since i won't get the time to read it here xD05:03
Toma-k05:04
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sobersabreany ubuntu developers channels around ?05:04
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Inf3ctedFxHello ppl again lol05:05
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afiefinstalled kubuntu-desktop. chose kdm to be the default maneger, and though i get a login with lot's of eyecandy, i still load into gnome05:05
gnomefreaksobersabre, not really atleast #ubuntu-devel isnt open05:05
JoeBloeanyone know anything about ubuntu rebooting when gnome loads using the 686-smp kernal?05:06
afiefJoeBloe: at least not with my 686 kernel... don't know about smp though05:06
Inf3ctedFxnot really05:06
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etechhi, i have a problem with samba...05:07
Inf3ctedFxdoes someone use the VMWare?05:07
defendguinis the double click to install a deb file going to go into backports?05:07
jendabrb, rebooting05:07
etechi have already try in the italian channel05:07
etechbut...05:07
slsi am a pine user...05:08
gnomefreaketech, #samba? if noone in here can help but im sure there are a few samba users in here05:08
slsbu i can not find where to set the default character encodings for the terminal windows...05:08
gnomefreaksls what term are you using?05:09
slsgnome terminal.05:09
afiefHow do i make KDE my Desktop Maneger, now that kubuntu desktop is installed?05:09
Inf3ctedFxsomeone familiar with the VMWare?05:09
gnomefreaksls they are under the termial menu between veiw and tabs05:09
slsI use konsole too05:09
gnomefreak^^thats for gnome terminal05:10
slsgnomefreak, that only changes it for that session...05:10
slsright05:10
phreak97in azureus i get:05:10
phreak97Error: Data Missing /media/s/Bittorrent/Incoming/azureas incoming/Lost.S02E04.REAL.HDTV.XviD-TCM/lost.204-tcm.nfo not found.05:10
slsit does not seem to stick05:10
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phreak97wait05:10
phreak97hmm05:10
phreak97yeah, whats with that05:10
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phreak97isnt it meant to create the data?05:11
gnomefreaksls,  than im not sure how to get it perment sorry05:11
Inf3ctedFxis anyone familiar with the VMWare? I just go a few questions on the configuration regarding the kernel-headers05:11
Hendikinsphreak97: tsk tsk, piracy05:11
HendikinsInf3ctedFx: Don't ask to ask, just ask (-:05:11
phreak97Hendikins, that wasnt my enquiry05:11
Pygimvo: pinf05:11
Inf3ctedFxlol ok Hendikins05:12
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phreak97it says something about setlength05:12
=== gnomefreak not a pirate just make illegal copies of programs :)) lol j/k
kino-takok guys, this time I'm serious, I have a small problem05:12
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gnomefreakkino-tak, feel free to ask05:12
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Inf3ctedFxwell this is my problem when I try to open the windows on the vmware it show me an error about /dev/vmmon  it said make sure the kernel module "vmmon" is loaded05:13
kino-takI login as an ftp user but don't have permission to write in that directory (thank you gnome)05:13
HendikinsInf3ctedFx: Have you upgraded your kernel since installing vmware?05:13
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kino-takeven if I login from the shell I don't have permission and I dont have my own directory but this doesn't matter05:13
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Inf3ctedFxnope I upgrade the kernel b4 install vmware Hendikins05:13
kino-takif I login as another user I can do anything, so I can still work05:14
gnomefreakyw kino-tak  chmod will change the permissons of a dir/file05:14
Inf3ctedFxlook Hendikins  this is my /usr/src  --> inf3ctedfx@fx:/usr/src$ ls05:14
Inf3ctedFxlinux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-68605:14
phreak97error: operation not permitted, setLength fails (allocateFiles [file paths here.. im not typing them] )05:14
kino-takchmod +rwx username?05:14
gnomefreakkino-tak, your not loggin in as a sudoer05:14
ubuntu_How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :05:14
ubuntu_How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :?05:14
phreak97so what do i do?05:14
kino-takgnome : no, as a normal user05:14
HendikinsInf3ctedFx: Do you remember running vmware-config.pl?05:15
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kino-takgnome : i created a new user to distribute among users and let them login through ftp05:15
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gnomefreakkino-tak, normal users dont have access to files owned by a sudoer05:15
kino-takgnome : I see, so I use chmod?05:15
ubuntu_no clue anyone :05:15
ubuntu_?05:15
Inf3ctedFxI'm running that again Hendikins  for the second time.. and I got this point  :  What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running05:15
Inf3ctedFxkernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build/include] 05:15
Inf3ctedFxbut my path is here Hendikins --> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/include05:16
gnomefreakunless ofcourse you use sudo chmod :)) to change the ownership and no it wouldnt be user name it would be file name05:16
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HendikinsInf3ctedFx: Leave that as default.05:16
Inf3ctedFxit wont work Hendikins05:16
Inf3ctedFxI already done that as a default05:16
Hendikinsand what error does it give when you leave the default?05:17
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kino-takgnome: I tried, it says (username) is not in the sudoers file....this incident will be reported05:17
Inf3ctedFxlet me show u something Hendikins05:17
phreak97fucking what the hell05:18
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HendikinsInf3ctedFx: Remember to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting05:18
gnomefreakkino-tak,  than you need to either add your name to the sudoers list or log in as the sudoer05:18
phreak97why cant azureus create new files?05:18
Inf3ctedFxI know Hendikins  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/648605:18
JnxHow do I get the rights to open my NTFS disks? - I can open them as a root, but not as a user.05:18
butcherbirdphreak97: most likely you dont own the dir its trying to save to. something like that05:18
JnxCan I give my regular user root access?05:18
Inf3ctedFxHendikins:  I dont have "include" in that folder05:19
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kino-takbeing a sudoer: does it mean, I can use the sudo command?05:19
gnomefreakJnx, sudo -i05:19
LiGhTeNiNI got 'error 21' while trying to boot with grub, I did 'fixmbr' under windows recovery console, can someone help me reintsall grub now and get rid of the error 21?05:19
Inf3ctedFxwell I do... but it said is not compatible05:19
Jnxthanks gnomefreak05:19
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gnomefreakKindred, for the most part05:19
phreak97butcherbird, so if i chown it and chmod 755 it, ill be cool?05:19
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gnomefreaknot Kindred  sorry i mean kino-tak05:19
PygiLightenin: huh, the easiest is to reinstall ubuntu05:19
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Pygi:/05:19
butcherbirdphreak97: should be all u need to do05:19
LiGhTeNiN:<05:19
phreak97actually, im saving it to my home dir05:19
kino-takok gnome, I'll try this too and let you know :-)05:19
gnomefreakkino-tak,  whos on the sudoers list?05:20
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phreak97butcherbird,  whats then? it doesnt work in my home dir05:20
Jnxgnomefreak, I still get that I don't have the rights to show HDA1, HDB1 etc.05:20
LiGhTeNiNPygi: what about the 'error 21'? I have to set my linux hdd to auto under bios?05:20
gnomefreakJnx, did you mount them yet?05:20
Jnxyea05:20
JnxI can access from my root user05:20
HendikinsInf3ctedFx: and uname -a says you're running which kernel version?05:20
Inf3ctedFxanbd Hendikins  this is one of the other errors I'm getting when I try to run the vmware-config.pl  -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/648705:21
Jnxso I wanna make this user a root. So I don't have to re-configure the looks etc. on my root user.05:21
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butcherbirdrunning azureus as yourself? what about hd space? other than that not sure. maybe u created a dir in home with sudo accidently05:21
Inf3ctedFxHendikins:  Linux fx 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux05:21
gnomefreakJnx, you enabled a root account?05:21
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gnomefreakor sorry root password?05:21
Pygilightenin: don't know about that error, but grub is *hard* to fix for a regular user :/05:21
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Jnxgnomefreak, yeah. I use it when I access the harddrives from the root user05:21
Johnny0Can anyone recommend some commercial help for Ubuntu ?05:21
PygiNo, do not use root :/05:22
LiGhTeNiNPygi: what do you use lilo or grub?05:22
gnomefreakJnx, by root you mean su?05:22
PygiLightenin: I use grub....05:22
phreak97butcherbird,  no good05:22
LiGhTeNiNok05:22
PygiLightenin: Lilo is easier to fix tho :P05:22
HendikinsInf3ctedFx: Hrm. Ubuntu isn't my native distro, so I'm not really sure what to suggest. Do you have the kernel sources installed?05:22
gnomefreakgrub is installed by deafault why screw around making a change to lilo :(05:22
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Jnxgnomefreak, I mean, I log out, log in with username: root and root password. When I do that I can access my harddrives.05:23
Inf3ctedFxnot really Hendikins  which distro r u familliar with?05:23
greenpenguin13how would i be able to find what driver my wireless card uses on ubuntu?05:23
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butcherbirdphreak97: hmm sorry05:23
ubuntu_How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :05:23
ubuntu_How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD ?05:23
avinoamcan anyone help me troubleshoot a problem with hearing IM sounds in gaim?05:23
Pygiyou cant do t on live cd05:23
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HendikinsInf3ctedFx: I'm a SuSE user myself. I've been working on some ubuntu-specific bits for some documentation I write, hence being in here.05:23
defendguinhow can i play a wav file through the command line?05:23
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gnomefreakJnx, than i dont know what to say other than to log in as root "i say that very loosely"05:24
rothInf3ctedFx, shoot (regarding VMware)05:24
Toma-defendguin: aplay wave.wav05:24
Hendikinsand I use vmware 5.5 on SuSE05:24
defendguinToma-, that uses alsa?05:24
gnomefreakubuntu_, the reason for live cd is so you can use ubuntu without installing anything05:24
Toma-defendguin: yep05:24
greenpenguin13ubuntu_: you'd have to master you're own CD (dont ask me how :/)05:24
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rothInf3ctedFx, a friend wrote your question to  me...05:24
Inf3ctedFxHere is the error again when I run vmware:  Version mismatch with vmon, module: expectiong 137.0, got 122.0  You have an incorrect version of the "vmmon" kernel module.  Try reinstalling VMWare workstation05:24
gnomefreakgreenpenguin13, how?? lol j/k05:24
barrett_gah05:24
Jnxgnomefreak, can't I give this-user root rights?05:24
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Hendikinsubuntu_: The short version is "You don't"05:25
avinoamI don't hear sounds when  i get an IM in Gaim, although according to the options, i should05:25
greenpenguin13anyone? where would i be able to find what driver my wireless card uses?05:25
HendikinsInf3ctedFx: You're running 5.5?05:25
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Inf3ctedFxyes Hendikins05:25
Toma-Inf3ctedFx: did you rebuild the module?05:25
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deltrongreenpenguin13: google your card model05:25
gnomefreakJnx, yes but not advisable root/sudo is not something to take lightly05:25
Inf3ctedFxI have no idea how to rebuild a module Toma-  xD05:25
Toma-oh :(05:25
HendikinsToma-: First thing I was getting at... vmware-config.pl handles that05:25
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ubuntu_Pygi, Hendikins greenpenguin13 gnomefreak   why ? A friend tell to me I only need put a file and do a "ls" to the dir of mozilla plugin and java will work05:25
Hendikinsubuntu_: Not on a livecd. You can't write files to it.05:26
Inf3ctedFxroth:  did u read it?05:26
Toma-you'll need to use export CC=gcc-3.4 before compiling i do believe.05:26
rothInf3ctedFx, yes, now I did :-)05:26
Inf3ctedFxToma-:  I already done that05:26
gnomefreakubuntu_, you cant install anything from live-cd except mozilla and OOo for windows05:26
rothInf3ctedFx, what version of VMware are you running?05:26
HendikinsToma-: Apparently he doesn't have a /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build/include05:26
ubuntu_Hendikins,  no, I wanna do this "on the fly" only on the ram. download the file to ram, and link with ls05:26
Hendikinsand he's using 5.505:27
greenpenguin13link cc to gcc in /usr/bin - saves time next time :)05:27
Inf3ctedFxI folloed this howto:  -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6563805:27
Inf3ctedFxroth:  Is the 5.5 I believe05:27
ubuntu_Hellsashes, not really on the CD05:27
rothInf3ctedFx, I can say how I / we at VMware are doing it, and getting it to work...05:27
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phreak97anyone here help with this error?05:28
phreak97Error: Operation not permitted, setLength fails (allocateFiles new:/media/s/Bittorrent/Torrents/Lost.S02E04.HR.HDTV.AC3.5.1.XviD-CTU.avi)05:28
Inf3ctedFxbut why is the error roth ?05:28
phreak97in azureas05:28
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phreak97azureus*05:28
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Toma-phreak97: it means the FBI are tracing you05:28
gnomefreaklol Toma-05:28
Toma-:D~05:28
rothInf3ctedFx, first we get the correct headers,then get gcc-3.X (depending on what kernel you have), link /usr/bin/gcc-3.X to /usr/bin/gcc and thats it05:28
gnomefreaksorry phreak97 i wouldnt be caught dead using that app05:28
damnhilI am problems installing skype on Hoary. I had libqt3c102-mt incorrect05:28
Inf3ctedFxhahahah good one Toma-05:28
phreak97Toma-,  i think its much more likely theres something wrong with azureus05:28
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Toma-phreak97: what filesystem is the /media/s/ drive?05:28
gnomefreak!skype05:28
ubotumethinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/05:29
Inf3ctedFxroth:  I already done that05:29
Inf3ctedFxlet me show u how did I install vmware05:29
phreak97gnomefreak, what do you recommend?05:29
rothInf3ctedFx, but you shouldnt need to compile anything with ubuntu and ws 5.5, since it comes with precompiled working modules...05:29
Hendikinsroth: What about errata kernels?05:29
gnomefreaksomething that doesnt use java to run :))05:29
Inf3ctedFxok roth  this is the howto That I folloed: -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6563805:29
phreak97gnomefreak, i just want something similar to bitcomet05:29
rothHendikins, which is ?05:30
butcherbirdphreak97: can u run with 'sudo azureus &' as a workaround?05:30
Toma-phreak97: what filesystem is the /media/s/ drive?05:30
Inf3ctedFxthat howto said get the essential-> apt-get install build-essential05:30
phreak97its fat3205:30
greenpenguin13gottit :)05:30
gnomefreakphreak97, i use the default one when in need of one but i dont use bittorrents alot05:30
Inf3ctedFxMake sure you have your kernel headers installed:05:30
phreak97owned by me05:30
phreak97ok05:30
Inf3ctedFxdoind a uname -r05:30
Inf3ctedFxthen apt-get install linux-headers-'kernel version'05:30
phreak97butcherbird, lemme see05:30
Inf3ctedFxIf you are getting the gcc version error, you will need to install the version that compiled your kernel:05:31
gnomefreakbuild-essential is needed if you gonna do any writing or compiling of programs05:31
Inf3ctedFx# cat /proc/version05:31
rothInf3ctedFx, I would use the vmware supported vmware-config script. nothing else...05:31
gnomefreakhence the word essential :))05:31
Inf3ctedFxso how can I do that roth ?05:31
phreak97butcherbird, same error05:31
Jnxgnomefreak, at least. I have this folder I can't copy from. I copyed some music with my root user from HDA1 to /media/music and when I'm on my regular user I can't use them. Something about rights. How do I fix that?05:31
Inf3ctedFxroth:  did u check the howto?05:31
gnomefreakwell or you can grab each program one by one and hope you dont forget any :))05:32
Toma-phreak97: try recieving onto an ext3 filesystem. see if it fixes it05:32
phreak97the program runs, but it gives that error in the status column of any torrent i give it05:32
rothInf3ctedFx, yes, there are some bad stuff in the end05:32
phreak97Toma-,  i dont have one05:32
phreak97my fs is reiser05:32
rothone shouldnt use any other stuff than what we provide05:32
gnomefreakJnx, if you did anything as root you need to have root access to open it05:32
Toma-...youre running ubuntu on fat32?05:32
phreak97and i already tried that05:32
rothnot download scripts from other servers...05:32
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Toma-oic05:32
phreak97im running it on reiser05:32
Toma-ok05:32
Inf3ctedFxoohh oks roth  so do I have to do everytrhing again?05:32
rothjust tar zxvf VMware-workstation-5.5-18463 (or what it now was)05:32
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rohanhi all05:32
Jnxgnomefreak, so what I have to do is to just start using my root account as my standard account? :P05:32
rohanwhere do i get qt4 4.1 packages for ubuntu from ?05:32
roththen cd vmware-distrib05:32
gnomefreakmy advice is to not do anything as root unless you have to05:33
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rothlink  gcc05:33
Inf3ctedFxok roth  now how can I remove the one I already have?05:33
thrice`rohan, lol for what?05:33
phreak97Toma-,  how do i reinstall azureus?05:33
gnomefreakubotu tell Jnx about root05:33
rohanthrice`: to learn qt405:33
roththen run the installer and let it invoke vmware-config.pl05:33
butcherbirdphreak97: sorry boss is yelling at me gota go05:33
phreak97lol ttyl05:33
Toma-phreak97: do you really ned to re-install? or do you just want a fresh config?05:33
phreak97Toma-, ?05:33
phreak97i honestly dont know Toma-05:33
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phreak97what do you reckon?05:34
phreak97probably a fresh instal05:34
phreak97and config05:34
phreak97wait05:34
phreak97try fresh config first05:34
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Toma-phreak97: ok, well, try rename ~/.azureus to something else and run azureus again05:34
phreak97how do i do that?05:34
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phreak97ok05:34
Toma-rename/move/delete05:34
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LFAhi05:34
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Inf3ctedFxhold on roth dont go I have to restart my machine is making wired noises05:34
Hendikinsroth: Aren't users fun?05:35
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Toma-o gosh. a hamburger ad was just on tv :( im so hungry05:35
rothInf3ctedFx, remove the vmware-distrib folder. do 1-5 on the howto.  then just do ./vmware-install.pl or whatever it is called and let it fork off the vmware-config.pl. you-re set. no need for compilation of ws5.5 on ubunto. the usual kernel modules are supported05:35
rohan!qt405:35
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ubotuNo idea, rohan05:35
rohan:P05:35
rothHendikins, always :)05:35
Hendikinsgnomefreak: Because Windows has never done the right thing as far as root access goes, and many users come from Windows?05:36
GeckoHey there. I have a somewhat slow laptop, it's 600mhz and only 192 mb ram. I have been running gnome, but it's too slow for me. Your documentation states that running xfce is a credible solution for older hardware, which I of course agree. However I cannot really get used to xfce. I find it impersonal, and reminds me too much of CDE. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?05:36
Toma-Gecko: fluxbox?05:36
rohanfluxbox is worse than xfce for you, Gecko05:36
Hendikinsroth: I deal with Firefox users. One could argue that they're more fun ;-)05:36
rohantry kde, but i am not really expecting it to be any faster, Gecko05:36
Geckorohan, well, at least it doens't remind me of cde ;)05:36
rothHendikins, hehe, guess there are more FF users than VMware05:37
rohanGecko: tho' as kde uses preloading, apps will open faster.05:37
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phreak97Toma-,  same deal05:37
rothHendikins, and I have only worked at vmware for 6 months...05:37
rohanGecko: cos even i use kde on my piii 550mhz XD05:37
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Geckorohan, that's an excelent suggestion05:37
rohanGecko: i hope you are not being sarcastic :|05:37
Toma-phreak97: could be a dodgy torrent?05:37
Hendikinsroth: More users, more platforms, more interactions with third party code... yeah, lots of fun. I'm doing this stuff on a voluntary basis too :/05:37
Geckorohan, I am not :)05:37
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cvt|gnuyearis it possible that xine is using 200mB of ram?05:37
rohanGecko: heh, ok. then go ahead, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop !!!05:37
rohaninstall kde 3.5 tho' its better05:38
Geckorohan, I wasn't aware of the preloading, so it might just work05:38
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: yep05:38
Geckorohan, will I get the choice?05:38
Flummihello, ive got a question related to ubuntu 5.10: how do i background the starting of the network-interfaces (wlan if eth0 is not plugged in)?05:38
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Toma-cvt|gnuyear: it might not be using it, but it might be caching it05:38
rohanGecko: no. wait a mo'05:38
rothHendikins, hehe... I dont :-) A friend on another network and channel just thought I could help out...05:38
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cvt|gnuyearToma-, isn't that a lot?05:38
phreak97Toma-,  im using two different ones05:38
rohanGecko: see this, to get kde 3.505:38
rohanhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php05:38
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: its cache. who cares :)05:39
Hendikinsroth: I'm sort of lurking for the same reason, but for Firefox/Mozilla.05:39
Inf3ctedFxOhh nooo God the aliens came for meee05:39
Inf3ctedFxxDD05:39
Inf3ctedFxok roth  r u still here? xD05:39
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: is it p[laying a big movie?05:39
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cvt|gnuyearToma-, i don't know exactly what that means in this case05:39
rothInf3ctedFx, yes05:39
Toma-phreak97: well im not sure then.05:39
Hendikinsroth: I'm pretty high up in upstream's support tree, which is a blessing/curse :P05:39
cvt|gnuyearToma-, 180mB file05:39
rothHendikins, sweet :-)05:39
Inf3ctedFxok let me try to run the vmware-config.pl from the vmware folder05:39
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: is it avi?05:39
rothInf3ctedFx, good idea :-)05:40
rohanGecko: basically, just, "echo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list"05:40
rothInf3ctedFx, hmm, not from the vmware folder05:40
cvt|gnuyearToma-, wmv05:40
fizzledoes ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd05:40
GeckoBut tell me one thing: Am I getting old? Because I keep using the phrase "now, back when I started using linux..."05:40
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Inf3ctedFxfrom where.. the vmware-distro folder right?05:40
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HendikinsGecko: That's like me, except "now, back when I started using mozilla..."05:40
__DwayneGecko that's funny05:40
rothInf3ctedFx, it is suppused to have been installed in the /usr/bin folder05:40
phreak97Toma-,  how do i reinstall?05:40
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KarlosIIthere was a how to for nx and ubuntu anyone know where to find th link?05:41
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Toma-cvt|gnuyear: ok. consider this, with that 200mb of cache/buffer, itll be reading that file, decoding the audio and video into a raw stream, then throwing it at you. it'll need a bit of space05:41
Gecko__Dwayne, actually, I found out I could write a whole book just with anecdotes...05:41
KyralKarlosII: wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX05:41
rothInf3ctedFx, go to the folder you unpacked. there is a vmware-install.pl scritp. run it05:41
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Toma-phreak97: did u install via .deb?05:41
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rothInf3ctedFx,  ask me if you dont understand any of the questions. let it fork the vmware-config.pl command WHEN it is done (it will ask)05:42
Inf3ctedFxthats the one i'm runing right now roth05:42
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rothsweet05:42
__Dwaynegecko: and did you? are you? will you? LOL05:42
GeckoHendikins, Is that like "When I started using linux, we only had netscape 3"?05:42
Gecko__Dwayne, perhaps on a blog some time :)05:42
phreak97Toma-,  i did05:42
HendikinsGecko: Almost. I started using Mozilla in 1999. 'nuff said.05:42
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Toma-cvt|gnuyear: linux basically takes all youre ram and make good use of it, making buffers and caches. ive got nothing up atm except xchat and gnome, and its using 495mb of ram for instance05:43
__Dwaynegecko might be interesting05:43
GeckoHendikins, really? Either I didn't know it existed at that time, or I have miscalculated the time I started using linux05:43
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gnomefreaktoma how do you check that?05:43
Toma-phreak97: well use synaptic to purge it/completely remove it and then reinstall it. also make sure it gets rid of the ~/.azureus folder too05:43
Toma-gnomefreak: run "free"05:43
gnomefreakok ty05:43
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xestergood day05:44
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HendikinsGecko: Well, Netscape was open sourced in 1998, and Mozilla was at Milestone 8.5 when I started using it. So I predate just about every major bit of code in that project :P05:44
gnomefreak:)) 49578005:44
fizzledoes ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd05:44
Inf3ctedFxok roth05:44
Inf3ctedFxlook this roth  is done:   The configuration of VMware Workstation 5.5.1 build-19175 for Linux for this05:45
Inf3ctedFxrunning kernel completed successfully.05:45
Inf3ctedFxYou can now run VMware Workstation by invoking the following command:05:45
Inf3ctedFx"/usr/bin/vmware".05:45
GeckoHendikins, ah, milestone, I almost forgot that word. But yes, I was on that ride aswell05:45
Inf3ctedFxSorry guys for the flood05:45
HendikinsGecko: I suppose it would be equivalent to starting using Linux in '94 or '9505:45
claudiuInf3ctedFx: maybe you could use qemu instead of vmware ?05:45
rothInf3ctedFx, ok, then youre done...05:45
Inf3ctedFxI was trying claudiu  but I cant find one for windows05:45
Toma-or vmware player05:45
GeckoHendikins, well, I didn't exactly start that early...05:45
fizzledoes ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd05:45
Inf3ctedFxlets see roth , lets see05:45
HendikinsGecko: heh05:46
Toma-nehoo, bedtime. cyas05:46
HendikinsToodles05:46
claudiuInf3ctedFx: you mean you want to use same virtual machine on windwos and linux as well ?05:46
Inf3ctedFxwell it looks to me is working xDD05:46
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rothInf3ctedFx, good :-)05:46
Inf3ctedFxyes claudiu  I want to run Windows XP under linux05:46
gnomefreakfizzle, it might but im thinking no when you boot up to it you should have a help part it should tell you there05:46
Inf3ctedFxroth:  man thx a lot05:46
rothInf3ctedFx, then I wont file a bug :-)05:46
rothInf3ctedFx, no problme05:46
Inf3ctedFxoohh is asking me to add the boot disk lol I forgot it05:47
rothInf3ctedFx, can you update that minihowto ?05:47
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kino-takjust  a quick question: how to I make a user sudoer?05:47
Inf3ctedFxdo I have to install the windows CD?05:47
HendikinsGecko: I've managed one thing that few others have though. Open about:plugins in Mozilla [Firefox] . I've got a link to my site hard-coded in to it (-:05:47
rohankino-tak: add your user to the admin group using the user manager.05:47
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GeckoHendikins, does that make you proud? ;)05:47
mweI found running windows 2000 as guest OS in vmware was much faster than running windows xp as guest.05:48
Inf3ctedFxnot really roth  I dont know how05:48
rothInf3ctedFx, just put in "if installing vmware 5.5 or later, just run the vmware-install.pl script. Ubuntu, both 32 and 64bit, is nowdays supported by VMware Inc."05:48
fizzle!cedega05:48
ubotucedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/05:48
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HendikinsGecko: A little. I had to work my arse off to get that.05:48
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rothAnyone else know how to make people change/update their howtos?05:48
GeckoHendikins, unless your site is mozilla.org I fail to see where it is05:48
Inf3ctedFxbut anyway roth  I'm going to make a small howto xD05:49
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rothmwe, in with host OS ?05:49
rothmwe, on linux ?05:49
HendikinsGecko: Unless your build has a modified about:plugins, you should see "Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org."05:49
Atrelizhi this is the firts time y use xchat,anyone can say me how to connect to mandriva chanel?05:49
laIaidokaroth: write the update yourself, submit as patch, and if on accepted ask if you can be the maintainer instead?05:49
Geckoyes05:49
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GeckoHendikins, is that your site?05:49
HendikinsYes.05:49
laIaidokas/on/not05:49
Geckonice :)05:49
rothlaIaidoka, hehe, no thanks :-) (maitainer part)05:49
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rothI can set one at work as maintainer instead :-) (the support department hehe)05:50
mweroth: yeah linux host05:50
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rothmwe, mm, that can be true for 2000, since vmware does its own memory management with help of linux in the background. Ms memory mgmt wasnt very good before.05:51
GeckoHendikins, what the heck is The Lurking Wolfox?05:51
HendikinsGecko: Unrelated, but I use that as a universal contact details page.05:51
phreak97anyone know an alternative to azureas?05:51
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deltronthe bittorrent CLI lol05:52
phreak97i want something that displays stuff like azureas does05:52
phreak97i used bitcomet in windows05:52
GeckoHendikins, I see05:52
mweroth: I don't know exactly why. xp demands more memory and I read somewhere that xp in general doesn't run optimal on virtual michines05:52
phreak97wish there was a linux version of that05:52
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rothInf3ctedFx, Im out of here now, mail me at d00roth(the damn sign)dtek.chalmers.se if you have problems05:52
milagrohi can anyone help me setup a serial mouse in ubuntu? (please,. its a nightmare to use it as keyb only :D  )05:52
Geckomwe, have you ever seen anything running optimal on a virtual machine? ;)05:53
eXhumedhi. I'm using a Ubuntu install for a long time now, but i needed to install Windows on another partition. my problem is, after installing Windows, it messed up the partition table, and I don't see grub anymore. i'm already running a live cd, but how can i fix grub now ? thanks in advance05:53
rothmwe, might be so. I know a few vmware/XP bugs :-)05:53
Inf3ctedFxok roth  once again thx a lot05:53
deltronlol, I can run my VM decently05:53
mweGecko: I meant compared to other guests05:53
Geckomwe, I know :)05:53
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gpledhow can i tell what version of ubuntu i am running?05:53
milagroeXhumed, use your installation cd and reinstall grub05:53
Nooobiehi, how do i allow root login in ubuntu?05:53
mwegpled: cat /etc/issue05:54
deltrongpled: uname -a ?05:54
eXhumedmilagro, actually i don't have a Ubuntu Live CD, i'm running Whax. so I guess i have to do it manually05:54
Stew_LappyNooobie can't you just use sudo?05:54
Geckodeltron, that's kernel version...05:54
HendikinsI remember NT4 claiming some really weird CPU speeds under older versions of workstation on an SMP box05:54
HendikinsThings like 4GHz on a dual PIII 650 host05:54
NooobieStew_Lappy: no... i'm using it as a server and i need to copy files etc... and i don't wanna work in a shell...05:55
phreak97i havea python source, how do i compile it?05:55
deltronoh05:55
pashaw!tell Nooobie about root05:55
mweHendikins: rofl. yeah that sounds odd05:55
deltronlol05:55
HendikinsOnly ever had that problem with SMP hosts though.05:55
deltronon my old dual celeron, NT4 reported them as xeon's :D05:55
Nooobiepashaw: i already set a root passwd i just can't login with it.05:55
deltron!cedega05:55
ubotusomebody said cedega was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/05:55
HendikinsDon't worry, these days I'm apparently running Athlon MP CPUs on a 440BX chipset05:56
gpledmwe: wins :)05:56
pashawNooobie,   your not trying to use X with root are you?05:56
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HendikinsNow that's just plain wrong ;-)05:56
Nooobiepashaw: that's exactly what i wanna do.05:56
mweI can't get the vmware tools time sync to host to work no matter what I do though05:56
Geckodeltron, wow, that's like writing mercedes on an old skoda05:56
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deltronlol, I loved that system though05:56
pashawNooobie,  it causes too many problems05:56
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deltronmmm05:57
Nooobiepashaw: meaning?.. i should be careful / it's impossiable?05:57
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gpledseems like all the distros have their own way of showing /etc/issue.  to bad their is not a standard name for that file.05:57
HendikinsThese dualcore chips are going to take all the bragging rights out of SMP :(05:57
deltronhehe, my laptop is an amd64 :)05:57
Geckoboth are laptops actually05:57
pashawNooobie,   its not recommended    use google if your set on doijng it05:58
deltronHendikins: dual dualcore's then :)05:58
HendikinsI just can't stand trying to do Real Work [TM]  on a uniproc machine05:58
Geckowell, i had nothing but trouble getting linux on it, so I let windows on it, and use it for gaming and watching dvd's05:58
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deltronmost of what I do doesn't require much horsepower05:58
ubuntu_where is the dir xchat use to save downloads on udentu :05:58
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ubuntu_what is05:59
deltronI wish games were written for SMP and 64 bit lol05:59
KarlosIIdumb question but my mind is mush atm what is the ip for localhost?05:59
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deltronKarlosII: 127.0.0.105:59
HendikinsNone of what I do (aside from the bazillion Mozilla builds and the odd KDE) requires 2x2GHz05:59
deltronSMP does make your system a whole lot more responsive though, I definitely agree with that05:59
gpledis their a repository that will let me upgrade firefox?05:59
HendikinsAlthough being able to run vmware and pearpc at the same time is cute.06:00
Geckoyeah, well, I wouldn't dare doing any developing that needs to be compilet on this little guy here...06:00
pashawubuntu_,   ~/.xchats/downloads/06:00
pashawubuntu_,   oops typo  its xchat206:00
Geckos/compilet/compiled06:00
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Hendikinsdeltron: There's just no comparison. That, and at the time I got this kit, I paid less for my motherboard, 2 CPUs and 1GB Registered RAM than the top bare Intel CPU would have cost at the time.06:01
ubuntu_pashaw, :( have no downloads dir dir06:01
ubuntu_ignore.conf       notify.conf     sound.conf06:01
ubuntu_keybindings.conf  servlist_.conf  xchat.conf06:01
deltronamd for the win06:01
pashawubuntu_,   type  cd ~/.xchat2    then type  ls06:02
GeckoI bought this little laptop because I was sure it could run linux and because it is really slick. I'll just have to wait till the day my other laptop gets so outdated that linux will run on it :)06:02
Hendikinsand as for AMD CPUs being hot? These run just fine in an essentially unventilated garage with an outside air temp of 45C. 'nuff said.06:02
deltronwhat laptop?06:02
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Geckodeltron, asus a4k06:02
Inf3ctedFxdanm roth left right??06:02
pashawubuntu_,   have to downloaded anything with xchat yet?06:02
deltronI have ubuntu64 on my gateway mx751506:02
KarlosIIthnx deltron btw06:02
deltronKarlosII: np06:02
Geckodeltron, or which of them were you refering to? The working or the not working?06:02
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ubuntu_pashaw, iam in .xchat dir, those file is from .xchat dir . yes i do a dowload06:03
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HendikinsI'm still sitting on SuSE, although if I can ever get a non-dialup connection I'll certainly put Ubuntu (amongst other things) through its paces.06:03
Nooobiecan someone help me configure an isa soundcard (vibra) ?06:03
Inf3ctedFxHendikins:  look I run vmware pretty good but now I'm trying to install windows and I have a message said: you do not have VMware Tools installed"   do u know anything about it?06:03
Geckodeltron, the errors I got was on the lines of really decreased performance, and artifacts whenever something was moving fast enough on the screen :)06:03
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GeckoHendikins, ever considered "Ship-it"?06:04
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HendikinsInf3ctedFx: Yeah, that's normal. Just finish installing Windows, then install VMware tools.06:04
HendikinsGecko: I'm in Australia, and that doesn't help with getting packages off the net.06:04
deltronsounds like no fun.  I never really tried 3d on my laptop though06:04
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pashawubuntu_,   thats where it should be06:04
Inf3ctedFxmm oks06:04
GeckoHendikins, well, I'm in China, at least for another week06:04
__DwayneGecko: china, ouch..06:04
GeckoHendikins, and they gladly sent it to me06:04
Hendikinsand being a KDE user, I'd probably lean towards kubuntu06:04
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dueyfinsterHey I have windows on WmWare trial, but I cannot get the network to work, how could I map it to ra0 (wireless)06:05
pashawubuntu_,   unless you changed it in xchat prefs06:05
ubuntu_pashaw, is on my desktop, ubuntu by default save on desktop $06:05
KindredHendikins: i'm in australia on 56k and I downloaded ubuntu :|06:05
deltronHendikins: shipit dude!  it's 100% free and will get it06:05
ubuntu_:$06:05
HendikinsKindred: You poor thing.06:05
__Dwaynekindrid: ouch..06:05
Hendikinsdeltron: That doesn't help if/when I want to get packages off the web.06:05
__Dwayneshipit doesn't charge? wow..that's way cool.06:05
Kindredit's only 3 days or so :P06:05
pashawubuntu_,   web downloads go there by default not xchat06:05
Gecko__Dwayne, it's nice here, if you don't consider the utter lack of bandwidth to the rest of the world06:05
RedRosehow do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?06:05
__DwayneGecko what part of China?06:05
deltronHendikins: well, what are you doing now to keep your suse updated? :P06:05
RedRosehow do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?06:06
Gecko__Dwayne, beijing06:06
albinoloveratsanyone know how to solve problems with a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2nx?06:06
Hendikinsdeltron: Getting the occasional small patch. I'm not downloading, say, 50 meg in a hit.06:06
dueyfinster Hey I have windows on WmWare trial, but I cannot get the network to work, how could I map it to ra0 (wireless). I need the path to ra0, but I have no clue what it is!06:06
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HendikinsKindred: so, why are you stuck on dial-up?06:06
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Hendikinsor were.06:07
RedRose???06:07
deltronHendikins: you can use apt to install from the source files if you want06:07
deltronHendikins: a lot smaller downloads06:07
Hendikinsdeltron: I would still have to acquire the files though.06:07
RedRoseis there anyway?06:07
deltronapt-get works nice, and resumes :P06:07
dueyfinsterAnyone know the path to ra0 (wireless)?06:07
ubuntu_pashaw,  well my ubentu save it on Desktop :) Tks :)06:07
HendikinsBasically, it stays on the todo list until I get some bandwidth06:08
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ubuntu_ubunt06:08
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deltronRedRose: none really06:08
RedRosehow do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?06:08
deltronlol06:08
flogistonDoes anyone got problems with Firefox?06:08
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deltronRedRose: there could be directory permissions that don't allow you to read it in addition to the index.html file06:08
ubuntu_flogiston, what kind of problem ?06:08
Hendikinsflogiston: I don't have problems with Firefox, but I run #firefox. Best thing to do is ask your question.06:08
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dueyfinsterflogiston: I get some after installing extensions, chrome registration failure06:09
flogistonIt doesn't open de sites i write in the adressfield.06:09
RedRosedeltron:no, i can see the index.html, and i know the fir is readable and executable by everyone...06:09
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RedRosebut i don't want to automattically see the index.html page, but a directory list06:09
Hendikinsflogiston: What does it do? Also, are you using an official or Ubuntu-supplied version of Mozilla Firefox?06:09
deltronwhat browser?06:09
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RedRosedeltron:any?06:09
dueyfinsterflogiston: try Opera or konqueror06:09
flogistonIf i try to open www.google.com it opens altavista or somthing else.06:09
HendikinsRedRose: set a default document of something that doesn't exist?06:10
ubuntu_flogiston, do you configure network :06:10
flogistonIm using the ubuntu supplied.06:10
ubuntu_flogiston, do you configure network ?06:10
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HendikinsRedRose: Then it should find no default document, and give you a directory listing.06:10
dueyfinsterAnyone know the path to ra0 (wireless)?06:10
flogistonubuntu_:how them?06:10
flogiston*then06:10
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ColonelPaniqueRedRose : add something like "foo.html"06:11
Hendikinsflogiston: so what does it do when you try going to sites?06:11
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ubuntu_flogiston,  my english is poor .. do wanna know how configure networks :06:11
ubuntu_?06:11
flogistonI have myu network configured .06:11
ColonelPaniqueRedRose : to the DirectoryIndex directive in your apache configuration...sorry about enter punctuation. ;-)06:11
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Hendikinsdueyfinster: Are you trying to set that up using vmware-config.pl?06:11
dueyfinsterHendikins, No should I? I am using the gui to map an ethernet connect through.06:12
albinoloveratsanybody know how to configure a usb soundblaster?06:12
flogistonSometimes no site even gets displayed.06:12
Hendikinsdueyfinster: IIRC you have to configure what interfaces get bridged and whatnot using vmware-config.pl06:13
HendikinsThen you just pick the appropriate virtual ethernet device in VM options06:13
dueyfinsterHendikins; Is that difficult?06:13
Stormx2Woh the GNU people feel really left out.06:13
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Hendikinsdueyfinster: I haven't had to do it in a while, but I don't remember it being hard.06:13
flogistonwhen i type: about:config ff displays w.w norton and company.06:14
kidshi06:14
kidshola06:14
Hendikinsflogiston: Does the browser display any error messages when you try to load pages?06:14
Hendikinskids: Good morning.06:14
kidsno abla espanol06:14
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flogistonI'm not running it from terminal but i'll do that now.06:14
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Hendikinsflogiston: I wasn't actually thinking about it dumping anything to stderr/stdout in this case.06:15
Hendikins(but that's always worth a look)06:15
flogistonWhere to look?06:15
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HendikinsDoes Firefox just sit there, or does it [eventually]  give an error page?06:16
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flogistonNo error page.06:16
Hendikinsdueyfinster: I do not respond to private messages. Please ask your questions in the channel.06:17
gnomefreakill bb im gonna boot into breezy06:17
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Hendikinsflogiston: Other browsers work?06:17
flogistonTried links and lynx and they work.06:17
deltronelinks ftw06:17
HendikinsNo proxy settings or such like configured? No extensions?06:17
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dotrigCache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)    Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll,/usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll06:18
dueyfinsterHendikins:    Virtual ethernet:     failed (Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation) Execution of vmware-config.pl aborted.06:18
dotrigGrrr mplayer06:18
flogistonNo extensions.06:18
flogistonI haven't tuoched proxysetting.06:18
HendikinsSo I take it removing ~/.mozilla/firefox doesn't help.06:18
Hendikins(or moving it out of the way, as the case may be)06:18
flogistonHaven't tried.06:18
flogistonI speed tweaked ff earlier today.06:19
HendikinsBingo!06:19
flogistonWhere can i find about:config?06:19
HendikinsBe very very wary of these so-called speed tweaks. Enabling experimental stuff can be problematic06:19
dueyfinstertype into address bar06:19
HendikinsYou can load about:config in the same you would a webpage.06:19
theconartistdueyfinster, he means the filename06:20
theconartistdueyfinster, he cant open ff06:20
dueyfinsterah, sorry06:20
HendikinsIf you can't run Firefox, get ~/.mozilla/firefox out of the way.06:20
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Hendikinsand/or edit prefs.js/user.js in the profile directly.06:20
flogistonBut i can't open about:config in ff.06:20
theconartistsomebody is slow06:20
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flogistonrm -rf  ~/.mozilla/firefox ?06:21
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HendikinsI wouldn't rm -rf06:21
Pygignomefreaky: ping06:21
dueyfinsterHendikins:    Virtual ethernet:     failed (Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation) Execution of vmware-config.pl aborted. Any ideas how to kill process? I looked in Gnome System Monitor, I cannot see the process06:21
HendikinsI'd move it out of the way. You might want to keep your bookmarks and stuff.06:21
Hendikinsdueyfinster: I'm not /that/ familiar with vmware troubleshooting. We had a vmware employee floating around here earlier, wonder where they got off to...06:21
flogistonoops already did.06:22
flogistonRestarded FF and now it works.06:22
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HendikinsOf course it works. You hosed your settings.06:22
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HendikinsThen you nuked them, so you got default settings.06:22
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stanleyhi, guys06:22
flogistonWhy shouldn't i use rm -rf?06:22
pundaihey, i can't get my built-in sd card reader to work, is there a mod i have to probe :)06:22
HendikinsBecause it deletes? And you may have wanted to keep your bookmarks, cookies, saved passwords, etc.06:23
theconartistflogiston, incase you wanted to keep some settings06:23
MacXimainanyone here able to help me with installing a .DEB file06:23
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Geckopundai, ricoh based, laptop cardreader?06:23
MacXimaini tried clicking on it and it tells me that ar is not in my PATH06:23
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flogistonDon't use bookmarkes and the passwords are no problem.06:23
flogistonThanks anyway!06:23
pundaiGecko, its a laptop06:24
pundaii dont know what ricoh means06:24
MacXimainanyone tried Dapper yet06:24
Geckopundai, ricoh is the producer06:24
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Hendikinsflogiston: Next time, ask us before doing any speed tweaking, and don't play with anything if you're not 100% sure what it does.06:24
Geckopundai, and if it's the one I think it is, you won't get it working06:24
pundaiGecko, how can i tell06:25
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flogistonI'll do so.06:25
=== Hendikins is quite happy to give you a hand with anything you may not be sure about
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Geckopundai, try with lspci06:25
topyliMacXimain: i sure hope so, since somebody is supposed to be working on it ;-)06:25
dabaR__MacXimain: no, noone.06:25
MacXimainhow about someone giving me a hand :)06:25
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HendikinsMacXimain: I'm a Firefox expert, ntoa dapper expert :)06:25
ZiXhi, what do you people find the best WM? i do not wish to start a holy war so don't say "KDE IS BEST!" "no gnome is best!" "NO KDE!" :p06:25
GeckoHendikins, that kde 3.5 mirror is giving me some trouble :(06:25
MacXimainwell im downloading right now..... i guess i'll just have to see06:25
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HendikinsGecko: I compiled my own KDE 3.5 on my 32bit SuSE 9.3 box.06:26
pundaiGecko, 0000:03:01.2 0805: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0822 (rev 17)06:26
pashawZiX,    there is no best  only your favorite06:26
Geckopundai, well, there you go. There are no drivers for that one06:26
butcherbirdZiX: been enjoying xfce06:26
ScatterBrainIf I create a custom package, using the source and dpkg-buildpackage, how can I prevent an "apt-get [dist-] upgrade" from trashing my version in favor of the respositories version?06:26
pundaiGecko, \o/06:26
flogistonAn other thing. The key with "pipe" stoped work. Tried my keyboard on an other computer so the button isn't broken.06:26
ZiXpashaw, true.. but i want some desktop setups to see which is best for me06:26
topyliMacXimain: this is a bad channel for dapper support. so is every other channell. if you know how to fix broken systems, please do install, debug, and fix06:26
dabaR__ZiX: one that works for you.06:26
ColonelPaniqueZiX : neither Gnome, nor KDE are Window Managers.  They are Desktop Environments.  fvwm, Fluxbox, and Windowmaker are Window Managers.06:26
ZiXColonelPanique, i know.06:27
MacXimainso anyone know why i can't install a DEB file on Breezy by clicking on it06:27
Geckopundai, something about the patent for the sd card type being so closed and everything06:27
pashawZiX,   then try all 3 main ones   kubuntu-desktop   ubuntu-desktop  xubuntu-desktop06:27
ZiXxubuntu? oO06:27
deltronxfce4 > * :D06:27
KyralMacXimain: because that isn't there yet?06:27
Geckopundai, however I have managed to find some card readers that specificly tell you that they are linux based, so that's what I did06:27
MacXimainthis is in Breezy Im talking about. It's worked in the past.06:27
pashawZiX,   thats what butcherbird and myself are using right now06:27
KyralMacXimain: That functionaility is being addressed in Dapper with gdebi06:27
topyliMacXimain: you're not supposed to be able to do that. it's an upcoming feature for dapper. try wajig06:28
MacXimainhmmm pehaps i had a plugin... don't remember06:28
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KyralMacXimain: did you have a script for it? Its never been that way for me (then again I've never liked doing it that way)06:28
ZiXwhats xubuntu-desktop?06:28
ZiXoO06:28
Pygi!xubuntu06:28
ubotuI heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu06:28
Kyral!info gdebi06:28
pundaiGecko, that is so ass06:28
Pygi!PATIENCE06:28
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.06:28
KyralGah Ubotu06:28
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deltronooh06:28
deltroni gotta grab xubuntu :D06:28
KyralI saw the package accepted on the ML06:28
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MacXimaincome to think of it I think i DID have a pluing or something installed i found on KDELook06:28
Pygideltron: hehe :)06:28
Kyral!info gdebi dappe06:28
Kyral!info gdebi dapper06:28
Geckopundai, I know06:28
ubotugdebi: (Simple tool to install deb files), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 228 kB06:29
ZiXand err.. in XFCE i miss the function to add as many panels as you want.. how to do that?06:29
Kyralthere you go06:29
deltronZiX: you mean like in gnome?06:29
KyralActually....06:29
KyralI should try it06:29
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ZiXDeltron: yup06:29
deltronit's in one of the xfce plugins I believe06:29
cvt|gnuyearbarrage was fun06:29
JayLv99I'm looking to get some more RAM for my Laptop (Inspiron 1000, currently has the standard 256 mb RAM), but on the Dell website it said "Get the official Dell 256 meg RAM stick to MAX OUT your Inspiron 1000!"06:29
ZiXdeltron, which one?06:29
PygiBye bye :P06:29
deltronfire up synaptic and add in the xfce plugins06:29
deltronnot sure06:29
JayLv99does that mean my Laptop can only go up to 512 RAM total?06:29
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JayLv99or is that just Dell being weird06:30
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JayLv99does anybody know how many RAM slots an Inspiron 1000 has?06:30
JayLv99and how much it can handle?06:30
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pashawJayLv99,    goto crucial.com   and search for your lappy make/model06:30
KyralLaptops have RAM Slots?06:30
vbhanuHI, I was trying to install ubuntu it failed to detect my sata hard disk06:30
vbhanuwhat could be the solution to this problem06:30
rraphinkKyral: they better, yes06:30
JayLv99;x06:30
Morrowyndoes anyone in here have a problem with the nvidia driver hanging on bootup of gdm on the framebuffer ? somehow when i boot windows first and then ubuntu everything is fine , any ideas?06:30
JayLv99I would hope my laptop has a RAM slot06:30
HendikinsKyral: You've got to put the SODIMMs somewhere.06:31
KyralMorrowyn: the Framebuffer "locks" the Nvidia Driver06:31
KyralMorrowyn: boot with the nofb option06:31
ZiXdeltron: which plugin?06:31
ColonelPaniqueKyral : sure they do.  SODIMM slots. ;-)06:31
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MacXimainI have Breezy 5.10 Installed right now but need to upgrade the Samba. the Version in the Repositories isn't the latest. How can I install the lates version of Samba06:31
JayLv99so... does anyone know what the Inspiron 1000's specs are RAM-wise?06:31
KyralMacXimain: Wait?06:31
dabaR__JayLv99: did you try searching their web site for specs?06:32
KyralMacXimain: If its in Dapper make a request for it to be backported06:32
deltronZiX: not sure, I'm not running a gui to check :P06:32
ColonelPaniqueMacXimain : coompile it from source?06:32
ColonelPaniqueMacXimain : compile it even06:32
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MorrowynKyral, how do i boot with nofb option ?06:32
MacXimaini have the Dapper Live CD and seem to be a newer version there06:32
topyliMacXimain: tha'ts a bad reason to upgrade your whole system to something unstable06:32
JayLv99dabaR__ - yes, I did, and it mentioned "maxing out your Inspiron 1000 with a 256 stick"06:32
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JayLv99and I'm wondering if that means that all my laptop can handle is 51206:32
cello_raspi need a phone number/address book for gnome/ubuntu06:32
pashawJayLv99,   most new laptops have 2 slots06:32
JayLv99'cause another website I read said it has 2 slots06:32
KyralMacXimain: Latest And Greatest isn't the best. Then again I shouldn't be talking I'm on Dapper lol06:32
MacXimaincompiling from source is not my friend.... I never have any luck :(06:33
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topyliMacXimain: if there's no backport, build it yourself from dappersources but on breezy06:33
dabaR__JayLv99: can you open it?06:33
JayLv99is it possible for a laptop not to be able to go above a certain amount of RAM?06:33
pashawJayLv99,    cruicial.com would have told you that also06:33
MacXimainif i can just upgrade my Samba i won't bother with Dapper06:33
pashawJayLv99,   yes06:33
JayLv99dabaR__ - I don't have the tools handy06:33
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ColonelPaniqueMacXimain : is there a specific feature or fix found in the latest version of Samba that you must have?  if not then you really don't have to get the latest version of Samba, or anything else for that matter... ;-P06:33
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theconartistJayLv99, 32bit systems are capped at 4gigs06:33
HendikinsMacXimain: ^^^^what ColonelPanique said.06:33
topyliMacXimain: what's so special that has happened to samba now?06:33
markus-_-when a file's owner is root..... how do i change permission on the file to be able to write to it?06:33
Hendikinstheconartist: PAE anyone?06:33
SEJefftopyli, nothing, samba 4 isn't released yet06:34
SEJeffmarkus-_-, What group is the file in?06:34
MacXimainThe newer version is Suppose to fix a problem with My Mac OS Hanging when it gets to the linux box... Seems to be a known issue according to the kubuntu forums06:34
theconartistHendikins, i dont know what PAE is but i already dont like it06:34
markus-_-file group is root as well06:34
KyralMorrowyn: when Grub loads (this is just to see if it works) hit ESC to enter the Menu (if you aren't there already). Hilight the Ubuntu entry and hit e to edit it, then move the selector to the kernel line and hit e again. Move to the end of the line and add "nofb" to it. Then hit esc and then b06:34
JayLv99pashaw - ty for the link06:34
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topyliMacXimain: well, test it by building the new samba on breezy06:35
JayLv99:) that is a good site06:35
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topyliMacXimain: you're going to be worse off with dapper06:35
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MacXimain...and why is that topyli06:35
Hendikinstheconartist: Physical Address Extension06:35
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JayLv99wait... this is kinda confusing06:36
markus-_-can you offer any ideas SEJeff ?06:36
theconartistoh06:36
JayLv99it says that I should get an upgrade of 256 more06:36
ColonelPaniqueMacXimain : the kubuntu forums are not authoritative for Samba fixes.  if such an issue exists, and has been fixed, it will be listed in the Samba changelog / release notes, which are authoritative sources of information on Samba...06:36
JayLv99to bring it up to 51206:36
topyliMacXimain: because they may break your whole operating system tomorrow. tha't why it's not released. it's in development06:36
JayLv99but it says I only have one module06:36
JayLv99memory slot*06:36
Morrowynthanks, Kyral gonna try that after dinner :D06:36
SEJeffmarkus-_-, you didn't answer my question06:36
SEJeffmarkus-_-, what group is the file in06:36
JayLv99it says "The number of total memory slots in your Dell Inspiron 1000 Series is 1 (1 bank of 1)"06:36
markus-_-sure i did06:36
JayLv99but it claims that I could get a 256 stick upgrade to make it 51206:37
markus-_- file group is root as well06:37
SEJeffmarkus-_-, Sorry, I didn't see that06:37
MacXimainthe latest version of Samba is 3.0.21 ... the latest in the Repositories is 3.0.1406:37
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SEJeffmarkus-_-, Well you can create a new group... put yourself in that group and the file. Or you can add yourself to the root group06:37
Hendikinstheconartist: basically they extend the address space to 36 bits, which bumps the maximum up to 64GB on 32bit systems that support PAE.06:37
markus-_-how do i add myself to the root group?06:37
topyliMacXimain: what about dapper repositories?06:37
JayLv99ohhh06:38
JayLv99it says that it has 256 MB of RAM non-removable already06:38
MacXimaini ran the live CD and the version there is 3.0.2006:38
JayLv99and it says it has 1 bank of 1 memory06:38
JayLv99is that not including the 256 nonremovable?06:38
gnomefreakis there an app that i can get osx themes?06:38
gnomefreakor mac themes06:38
topyliMacXimain: if that's enough, build from that06:38
SEJeffMacXimain, dapper version is  3.0.20b-2ubuntu106:38
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MacXimainit suppose to be enough06:39
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pashawJayLv99,   youll need to check if 256mb is integrated into the mainboard  so the 1slot is empty now06:39
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markus-_-SEJeff,  how do i add myself to the root group?06:39
MacXimainso how do i build from that then??06:39
butcherbirdJayLv99: companies like dell are always soldering stuff to MB on more inexpensive laptops06:39
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topyliMacXimain: so, enable the dapper deb-src repositories. apt-get update; apt-get build-dep samba; apt-get -b source samba06:39
SurakHello06:40
gnomefreakhi06:40
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GeckoSeems that kubuntu-users have developed their own sense of humor:06:40
GeckoGecko: im trying to install kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu-desktop || _matt: I see - cant say that I have upgraded from ubuntu06:40
ColonelPaniqueMacXimain : have a look at Samba changes: http://us2.samba.org/samba/history/samba-3.0.21a.html  NO mention of any Mac OS X related issues going back to version 3.0.4 ;-)06:40
MacXimaini need to add the dapper repositories right?06:40
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topyliMacXimain: the source repos. don't fool with the binaries06:41
SurakIs someone aware of issues with some via unichrome adapters? I tested five different machines containing this video 1106:7205 rev. 1 (the one on chipset via 8378)  and breezy cannot get a decent video mode on it.06:41
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SEJeffmarkus-_-, Well you have to add yourself to root as a secondary group06:42
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MacXimainI was reading this forum and it talks about it here06:42
Surakit keeps monitors shaking. This happens in ubuntu only.06:42
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MacXimainhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108691&highlight=samba06:42
chillywilly!win32codecs06:42
ubotuit has been said that win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/06:42
SEJeffmarkus-_-, sudo gedit /etc/group06:42
mweSEJeff: no!06:42
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mwevigr !!!06:42
mwesudo vigr even06:42
topyliheh06:42
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SEJeffmarkus-_-, you can also do: sudo usermod -G adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin root jeff jeff06:42
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SEJeffmarkus-_-, root being the group. and jeff being my username06:43
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mwedon't edit /etc/group or /etc/passwd directly. always use vigr and vipw instead06:43
MacXimaintopyli,  so what exactly do i need to add to have the repos06:43
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SEJeffmwe, I realize that, but usermod is stupid and removes all groups you are currently a member of instead of adding a group06:44
SEJeffmwe, And vi, while second nature to me, is not to a normal user06:44
topyliMacXimain: just copy your breezy deb-src lines (not the deb lines) and edit them to say dapper where they now say breezy06:44
Some_Bodyhm, is there a hot-key to launch terminal in breezy?06:44
MacXimainok kinda thought so but good to make sure06:45
mweSEJeff: vigr and vipw doesn't use vi as editor, despite the name. it uses $EDITOR, nano by default06:45
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ColonelPaniqueMacXimain : that forum says nothing about requiring the latest version of Samba...you don't really need it.  you should spare yourself the grief of trying to go to bleeding edge when you don't need it.06:45
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Some_Bodyand what is the command for running the mouse configuration program? Mouseconfig?06:45
topyliMacXimain: what is the forum thread supposed to be about? i see no information there ;-)06:45
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gnomefreakalt+F2 will bring up the run box or you can use ctrl+alt+F2 to get into term only and to get back its ctrl+alt+F06:46
gnomefreak706:46
mweSEJeff: editing groups and passwd by hand means leaving the system in a state where you can't login if you make a mistake.06:46
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Some_Bodythankds gnome06:46
SEJeffmwe, oh, the first thing I do on ubuntu is remove nano06:46
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SEJeffmwe, You are right then06:46
topyliSEJeff: what's wrong with nano?06:47
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odatanyone have any experience with officejet all in one's   scanning stuff06:48
topyli!anyone06:48
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>06:48
Surakodat: I own one of those06:48
SEJefftopyli, vi is much much faster than nano06:49
odatSurak, any luck getting scanning to work06:49
SurakIt just works (R)06:49
topyliSEJeff: oh it is? i've never noticed. it's a better editor in many other ways of course.06:49
Surakusing the hplip package06:49
topyliSEJeff: where have you last seen vi?06:50
skonSEJeff: it's barely noticeable on a _decent_ machine06:50
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MacXimaintopyli, May not have been the right thread..... But theres a threasd there that alks about how OS X Finder Locks up when trying to connect to the kubuntu/ubuntu machine.  Basically said that the 3.0.14 has problems and to upgrade Samba to 3.0.20 and that seems to fix the problem06:50
SEJeffskon, I am referring to something in vi as in d20d to delete 20 lines or y4y to copy 4 lines. You can't do that in nano06:50
topyliMacXimain: ok, so you better do that06:50
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dabaR__are you guys really discussing this or am I misreading?06:50
odatSurak, each time i use xsane to try and scan i get a reading i/o device error06:50
TokenBadhow dcc chat in xchat?06:50
SEJefftopyli, I am a Unix / Linux systems admin. They don't have nano on HP-UX or solaris (which I work on every day)06:51
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Surakodat: use hplip06:51
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skonSEJeff: okay, thought you were referring to processing time06:51
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PeteyPablocan somone help me with an ssh problem ?06:51
topyliSEJeff: does hp-ux have the original vi?06:51
ColonelPaniquevi/vim is a pretty good standard editor.  you will not be finding nano installed on the majority of other *nix systems by default too.  it's better to learn something that is universally present on almost all *nix-like systems than have to constantly be installing some little special friendly editor. ;-)06:51
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topyli!start an editor war06:51
ubotutopyli: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:51
butcherbirdPeteyPablo: what is problem?06:51
Surakodat: turn the machine on with the scanner already on. make sure the hplip service is being run06:51
topylioh, it's removed06:51
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skonTokenBad: /dialog screeName06:51
MacXimainok here's the thread i was reading Earlier : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82039&highlight=samba+os06:52
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topyliSEJeff: yeah well, defaulting to nano is a debian peculiarity06:52
PeteyPablobutcherbird: http://pastebin.com/48738306:52
odatSurak, i have the hpoj libraries installed as well as the hplip libraries installed06:52
hikenbootI installed mkinitrd-cd because that was the only package i could find with mkinitrd in it...is it called somthing else or should i install some tools from somewhere?06:52
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Surakodat: hpoj is no longer necessary. it should be removed.06:53
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odatSurak, will i still be able to print using the hplip?06:53
Surakodat: yes06:53
odatSurak, and are these two libraries causing a conflict that doesn't allow the scanner to work right now06:54
butcherbirdah you can always just del the known hosts file under /home/pete/.ssh/06:54
odat?06:54
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butcherbirdPeteyPablo: ^^06:54
PeteyPablobutcherbird: ?06:54
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PeteyPablobutcherbird: ok thanks06:54
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butcherbird:)06:55
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massiChi, did anyone played with OVAL and ovaldi interpreter?06:55
sockpuppe1albacker06:55
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albackersockpuppe1, hello !06:56
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sockpuppe1mire dita shok!06:56
odatSurak, do i need the libsane-extras?06:56
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odat?06:57
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shekharhello can someone help me with sharing itunes music library over daap in rhythmbox so i can play shared music in ubuntu?06:58
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PeteyPablodamn my shell had hardware failure!07:01
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dylan_how do i secure my linux box?07:01
skondylan_: against what?07:01
topylidylan_: how have you made it insecure? ;-)07:01
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albackerdylan_, linux is almost secure by default :)07:02
ColonelPaniquedylan_ : power it down, and lock it in a bank vault?07:02
skondylan_: there are books written on this. In general, shutdown telnet, ftp, apache if you don't need it, smtp if you don't need it...use ipchains, run chkrootkit, etc07:02
albackersome people use antivirueses : dylan_. try finidng one !07:02
dylan_topyli, i simply installed it...i see security guides online to secure linux but they seem hard07:02
sockpuppe1bank vaults?!?! thats it>?07:02
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dylan_how do i do these things?07:03
topylidylan_: yeah i now there are all sorts of guides07:03
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dylan_topyli, they are difficult to read07:03
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topylidylan_: do you run a mail server? does it have many windows clients?07:03
skondylan: go to System:Administration:Services and shutdown everything you don't need07:03
gnomefreakantivirus on linux is mostly unneeded07:03
MacXimainis the apt repository list still located in ETC/APT07:03
skongnomefreak: haha this is the sad truth...07:04
sampanmacximain  yes /etc/apt/sources.list07:04
dabaR__topyli: ya, he runs a bank with his server...he just needs to secure it.07:04
dylan_topyli, no i am just a single machine07:04
topylidylan_: do you want to run database or web servers locally and hide them from the internet07:04
MacXimainthanks sampan07:04
sampannp07:04
topylidylan_: don't worry, just enjoy07:04
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ColonelPaniquegnomefreak : not yet anyway. ;-) the Chinese are working on it though.07:04
dylan_topyli, so there's nothing i should do?07:04
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Benjignomefreak: Good to have if you're running a mail server that's hosting pop3 for windows users07:04
topylidylan_: just believe it :)07:04
gnomefreakif you need antivirus on linux your not doing something right07:04
PeteyPablocan somone give me the un tar.gz command?07:04
dylan_topyli, its very hard to believe it....i mean, why isnt there any linux virus / spyware?07:05
gnomefreakBenji,  good point07:05
drivamgr2006since there are practically no virii which can infect linux, ttbomk, an antivirus package for linux is about as useless as as a chocolate parasol on a hot day.07:05
skondrivamgr2006: roflcopters07:05
topylidylan_: very hard to write viruses and spyware for linux. i've never seen any07:05
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SannePeteyPablo: look at 'man tar' in the example section.07:05
ColonelPaniquePeteyPablo : tar zxvf <file>07:05
PeteyPabloColonelPanique: thanks07:05
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topylidylan_: just keep your system up to date and don't surf the net as root07:06
skondylan_: just shutdown the services you don't need and your linux is pretty much as secure as you'll ever need it to be07:06
dylan_skon, even as a server?07:06
skondylan_: server for what?07:06
gnomefreaktopyli, from my understanding worms or (viruses that attack mail) are really the only thing that linux users need to watch for07:06
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dylan_skon, i dont really know yet....i am 15 years old and am looking for a career in computers and linux...07:06
topylidylan_: if you want to run a service, you probably want it to be shown to the net, right? so nothing there, except to  make sure your software is up to date07:07
skondylan_: I'm 17 and I'm looking for a career in computers and security :-D07:07
pashawdylan_,   do you have cable or DSL?07:07
Benjianti-virus for linux is pretty much to keep the windows users that will transfer files/data off of your server on to their windows box07:07
dylan_pashaw, DSL07:07
Benjiie. samba fileserver, mail server, webserver, ftp07:07
dabaR__come on people07:07
topylignomefreak: yeah well, there are all kinds of cracks for insecure (not up to date) boxen with stupid admins07:07
skonlinux is anti-virus07:07
gnomefreaktopyli, true07:07
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pashawdylan_,   did it come with a firewall on your DSL modem/router   or did you add a firewall like a linksys/netgear?07:08
diederickgnomefreak, i'm still trying to install ubuntu, but the install stops at "detecting hardware" and "Loading module ide-generic"07:08
ILF_anyone know hot to get mplayer-nogui to breezy? marillats .deb has dependency problems :(07:08
diederickdo you know ho I can fix that?07:08
dylan_pashaw, i have a d-link router07:08
dylan_4 port07:08
gnomefreakdiederick, did you reburn it?07:08
skondylan_: if you want to run a "server", for example a web server, you'll just need to keep  apache2 running, and if you want to be able to acces your server from outside, you'll need an SSH server07:08
diederickyes07:08
diederickusing the slowest speeds possible07:08
pashawdylan_,   then  your good07:09
Benjiand if you have a poo cable provider like mine...you'll have to have sshd listen on port 8022 or whatever above 102407:09
marcothi to all!!! W ubuntu for g3 ppc!! :-)07:09
diederickcould it be that there is something with the IDE? or acpi?07:09
pashawdylan_,   what do you want to learn first?    we can point you in the right direction07:09
gnomefreakdiederick, could be07:09
dylan_pashaw, i want to learn security07:09
gnomefreakis that the only place its stopping?07:09
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dylan_pashaw, and i want to be really really really comfy with the CLI07:09
diederickyes07:10
topylidylan_: here's a howto if you want to improve the poor state of viruses on linux and try to write one: http://virus.enemy.org/virus-writing-HOWTO/_html/07:10
diedericki'm trying noapic, nolapic no07:10
diedericknow07:10
fangoriousmy laptop has suddenly switched to going to sleep instead of hibernate even though I specify the hibernate.sh script in sleepbtn.sh07:10
pashawdylan_,   google    search   firewall   or router NAT    or  iptables07:10
skonBenji: why isn't it port 22?07:10
topylidylan_: but it's not going to be easy to get it to spread :)07:10
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diederickoh and somethimes at the keyboard selection/language selection..07:10
Benjiskon: Because I can't accept connections outside on ports over 102407:10
topyliskon: so that people supposedly have a harder time guessing the port07:10
Benjicable internet provider07:10
gnomefreakdiederick, see it stopping there is what is bothering me about the iso/or burn07:10
topyliBenji: oh that too07:11
pashawdylan_,    CLI    google search   BASH07:11
skonBenji: Interesting....I have cable too...what company?07:11
Benjier on ports less than 102407:11
Benjii mean07:11
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Benjiit's a local cable provider07:11
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Benjieastern ohio, western pa07:11
dabaR__!enter07:11
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!07:11
pashawdylan_,   if you want to learn a text editor type  in a terminal          vimtutor07:11
PrinterHello all.07:11
xiaogilwhich browser is the best except from firefox ?07:11
Some_Body...avant?07:12
skonAh okay07:12
Some_Body:P07:12
Seveasxiaogil, firefox :)07:12
Benjikonqueror isn't bad07:12
Seveasxiaogil, and epiphany07:12
topylixiaogil: they all suck. firefox probably sucks least07:12
odatanyone have any experience with officejet scanning07:12
MacXimainWOOHOO!!!!!! It works07:12
MacXimainYippeeeeee07:12
Some_Bodyseriously, I'm joking, flee from avant like the plague07:12
Geckoxiaogil: konqueror just passed the acid2 test I heard07:12
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xiaogilGecko: but i use gnome, not kde07:12
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Some_Bodyhorrible security07:13
MacXimainthanks topyli and everyone involved in helping me07:13
Benjixiaogil, can still run konquerer in gnome07:13
Some_Bodyalmost as bad as ie, plus a fugly layout07:13
xiaogilwhat about galeon ?07:13
PeteyPabloto use the command screen you just type screen right?07:13
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PrinterAnyone use Firestarter?  If I add an inbound rule * PassiveFTP, Port 1024-65535, source anyone * would this be good to allow Passive Mode FTP to my server?07:13
allison_1984xiogil > opera !07:13
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oskudecan i make an image out of an audio cd ?07:13
topyliMacXimain: success?07:14
Some_Bodyallison:Damn straight07:14
fbockstaelgoodday all, what programm do I use to play a DVD in Ubuntu07:14
Seveasfbockstael, a dvd player :)07:14
jouni__what about epiphany.07:14
Seveas(totem is one)07:14
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topylifbockstael: totem, mplayer, whatever. but you do need the decss crack07:14
fbockstaeli don't see a picture and sometimes i here a sound with the normal installed programms07:15
allison_1984SomeBody/ what do you use ?07:15
Seveastopyli, libdvdcss is enough (and legal, which decss is not)07:15
Some_Bodyfor a browser?07:15
Some_Bodyfirefox07:15
MacXimaintopyli, Yes I can now connect to my breezy box by going into my finder>network> snd so forth...... I also found how-To install the .DEB  need to rt-click and goto the package menu07:15
allison_1984SomeBody> yea07:15
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topyliMacXimain: great!07:15
MacXimainWell Back to the Rose Parade... :)07:15
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Some_Bodyother than the horrible support for java, which isn't a big deal because most sites running java suck, firefox is great07:16
topyliSeveas: i like to distribute decss as a haiku poem, printed on paper :)07:16
diederickgnomefreak, I'm now burning the live cd07:16
topylijouni__: i love epiphany, but i really want to use a few firefox extensions not available for it07:17
gnomefreakdiederick, live cd shouldnt get you stuck there07:17
diederickok, I hope its gonna work07:17
diederickgnomefreak, but could it be something with acpi?07:17
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diederick(I disabled it for suse10, and than I came to CD3)07:18
gnomefreakdiederick, did you turn off acpi in the bios?07:18
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Some_BodyNo viruses through the night, firefox is all right, one trojan is not so bad-Hooray, firefox haiku. First in history?07:18
diederickhmm no07:18
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diederickdo I have to?07:18
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ahmedHi07:18
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gnomefreakdiederick, mine is off you might wanna try it07:18
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diederickoke07:18
MWettendorffanyone here with experince in webserver??07:18
ahmedI have a problem with my firefox07:19
allison_1984Some_Body > are you on ubuntu ?07:19
Some_Bodywhat is it?07:19
Some_Bodynot currently, mouse is glitching out07:19
topyliahmed: please ask your question07:19
Hendikinsahmed: I run #firefox. I may be able to help you with it if you tell us what it is.07:19
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allison_1984Some_Body > normally I associate trojans with windows.....07:20
Hendikins(and if I can stay awake, it is 5:20am here)07:20
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ahmedwhen I run Firefox , there is segmentation fault message07:20
Hendikinsbutcherbird: Excuse me?07:20
skonMWettendorff: ask your question07:20
Hendikinsahmed: What version of Firefox?07:20
Some_Bodyhm, virus rather07:21
allison_1984........O...o....just installed flash on firefox....07:21
ahmedhendikins , I'm running Ubuntu Breezy 5.1007:21
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Some_Bodyforced me to "upgrade" to 1.5...07:21
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alvansonHow do I get GNOME to use a different date format?  Specifically ISO 8601.07:21
HendikinsHrm, maybe I shouldn't have admitted to knowing anything about Firefox...07:21
MacXimaintopyli, ok One more thing.... I can browse to the shared folder and all but i can't seem to write to it. Seems to be a simple permission problem.07:21
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Hendikinsahmed: I take it you're using the included Firefox 1.0.7?07:22
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MacXimainI've created a folder inside my home folder and checked the writable option but it doesn't let me write to it07:22
ahmedby the way , is there an update for Firefox ?07:22
gonffenDid you guys hear about nubuntu? http://digg.com/mods/nUbuntu_-_Formula_One_Released07:22
topyliMacXimain: hmm. my smb.conf is from 1995 or something, i don't remember :)07:22
topyliMacXimain: let me see07:22
Mr_MilenkoOOOOLD07:22
Mr_Milenkolol07:22
Hendikinsahmed: Firefox 1.5 is the latest release, although I don't think there is an official package for breezy07:23
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MWettendorffskon: when i write a text in danich, i get  insted of getting the normal characters.. it is set to used the font type "tahoma" wich i know have the characters in it07:23
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topyliMacXimain: are you using user or share level security?07:24
ahmedHenikins .... shall I update Firefox from source ??07:24
MacXimainwhere would i find out topyli07:24
skonMWettendorf: er...sorry no idea, I never have had to work with international configurations07:24
True_ChaosIm thinking im fucked here, but my mom hardshutdown my laptop (running kubuntu) cause the blinking lights annoyed her. Im now stuck at GRUB Loading, Please wait...07:24
Hendikinsahmed: You may wish to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:24
topyliMacXimain: in /etc/samba/smb.conf07:24
True_ChaosAnd ive no clue how to go about recovering07:24
Hendikinsand I may wish to go through that at some point and update it if I see fit.07:24
gnomefreak!coc07:24
ubotuwell, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/07:24
topyliMacXimain: i have "security = user" there07:24
MWettendorffskon; no problem.. was just hoping.. :)07:24
Some_Bodytrue chaos, do you have a recovery disk07:25
Some_Bodyfor your computer?07:25
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topyliMacXimain: but then, i have the same usernames and passwords on the linux box and the windows box07:25
MacXimainI have security = share07:25
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True_ChaosSome_Body: ive got the kubuntu install disk, and a kubuntu live disk, but no install disk =\07:25
MacXimaini also have the same username/passwords on both machines07:25
True_Chaoser recover07:25
topyliMacXimain: and then, i have no idea what is smart for mac clients...07:25
skonTrue_Chaos: swearing has gotten people banned before07:25
Some_Bodyok07:25
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True_Chaosskon: sry :(07:25
skonjust warning, I'm not the op07:26
joshiHello. I have problem- When i try to load subtitles with xine... it crashes. Does anybody know solution for this?07:26
ahmed:) thank you for the site ... I gonna check it but I need to reboot since Firefox do not start !!07:26
Hendikinsgnomefreak: I'm not an ubuntu user, does that mean I can ignore the coc? ;-)07:26
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pashawMacXimain,   you can see the share but cant write to it?07:26
Some_Bodyfind exactly what kind of processor you're running, and go to the company's site07:26
Hendikinsahmed: Did you change anything before Firefox stopped working?07:26
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topyliMacXimain: there's also a setting in smb.conf for "writable = yes"07:26
MacXimainpashaw, that is correct07:26
True_ChaosSome_Body: ive got the dell recovery disks, but those are for windows :P07:26
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amiashi all , happy new year and stuff07:26
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Some_Body...eh, I thought the disks interacted only with the bios?07:27
Benjiis IOMMU support disabled with the pre-compiled kernel image from the repository?07:27
HendikinsFirefox usually (but not always) needs a bit of help to blow itself up07:27
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ahmedno .......... I was browsing ...and all of a sudden Firefox closed itself !! and refused to start again !!07:27
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ahmedis it a virous ??07:27
pashawMacXimain,   id use security = user       cat /etc/samba/smb.conf   near bottom will be the share you created you should see  writeable = yes07:27
MacXimainmaybe thats it topyli  I don't have that line I have read only = no07:27
amiasthe MD5 sums on the dapper package list are wrong07:27
topyliahmed: no it's not a virus07:27
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Hendikinsahmed: Unlikely to be a virus. It is possible that your prefs.js file got corruped though, try moving it out of the way.07:28
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Hendikinser, corrupted.07:28
amiasahmed,  is it always the same site ? do they use lots of javascript ?07:28
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topyliMacXimain: the syntax may have changed of course, and my old file might have some legacy lines that modern samba doesn't even read :)07:28
Hendikinsamias: This is a "crashed and won't start again" problem, from what I can gather.07:28
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True_Chaosgrr, I wish I knew what GRUB was hanging on =\07:28
ahmedactually , they are the sites I browes usually ... nothing new07:29
dooglusI can't get "locate" to work in dapper.  Is anyone else having the same problem?  It's been like it for about 2 weeks now.07:29
amiasHendikins, aah , does sound like prefs.js07:29
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MWettendorffAnyone here that knowes, where i can finde the fonts?07:29
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Hendikinsahmed: In fact, try renaming ~/.mozilla/firefox or move it out of the way completely, then start Firefox. It should work.07:29
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yaaarword07:29
LathropWellsIs the U.S. repository server working smoothly? (just curious don't get alarmed)07:29
gnomefreakdooglus it worked on dapper for me but on breezy atm07:29
fbockstaelSomeone has an Epson AcuLaser C1900?07:29
amiasahmed, or try it as another user for a less potentialy destructive method07:29
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dooglus(dapper) chris@chrislap:~$ locate whatever07:30
dooglusSegmentation fault07:30
yaaarman, i'm having the strangest problem with ubuntu recognizing my dvds properly.07:30
amiasahmed,  su - someotheruser && firefox07:30
dooglusthat's what I see07:30
Hendikinsamias: How is moving the data destructive? One can simply put it back.07:30
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Seveasdooglus, :|07:30
ahmed:) good idea .... I will start it using another user07:30
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amiasHendikins, might be a dodgy sector/indode07:30
Some_Bodygood luck tc07:30
shining_dooglus: it finds some files here and then it segfaults07:30
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Hendikinsamias: Well, if that's the case, then [s] he's got bigger problems...07:31
True_ChaosSome_Body: If a live cd works, any other ideas?07:31
joshiI have problem- When i try to load subtitles with xine... it crashes. Does anybody know solution for this?07:31
yaaarnormally, if you put one in the drive it autoloads totem correctly and plays the dvd just fine. but if you either a)boot with a dvd in the drive or b)put a dvd in the drive just after ejecting a blank cd/dvd ....then instead of totem loading it pops up the "do you want to burn a data or audio cd" thing as though the disc were blank07:31
Some_Bodydon't have any experience with the live cd or much with ubuntu, but once there, try to re0install grub07:32
Some_Body*re-install07:32
True_Chaoshmm, ok07:32
yaaarand if you eject it and put it back in, the same thing happens. the only way i've found to get around it is to insert a normal data cd, and then put the dvd back in....then it works fine07:32
ahmed:) I am facing another problem ...... the terminal refuses to start also !!!!07:32
yaaaranybody have any clue why it would do this?07:32
gnomefreakdooglus hold on let me boot back to dapper and ill let you know if it errors for me07:32
Hendikinsahmed: Then I think you've got bigger problems than Firefox not running.07:32
amiasahmed,  i'd put money on both of those being related07:32
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dooglusSeveas: I tried recompiling from source, but that gives:07:33
dooglus$ locate whatever07:33
yaaarother hints: the title of the disc changes. when it's working right, the volume label is listed, when it thinks its blank it's just labelled "dvd-rom"07:33
doogluslocate: fatal error: search_db: read: '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db': Bad file descriptor07:33
polytekelho :) my gnome's screen saver doesn't start... any ideas for a solution ?07:33
dooglusshining_: oh, you have the same?07:33
MWettendorffAnyone here that knowes, where i can finde the fonts?07:33
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shining_dooglus: yes but it seems to work07:33
amiasMWettendorff, google ?07:33
dooglusshining_: it finds a few files for me too07:33
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shining_dooglus: it finds the file, then it segfaults so it doesnt really matter07:33
Seveasdooglus, does updatedb work (as root)07:33
yaaaralso, if you dismiss the burning window and try to open totem manually, it says it couldn't find an entry for /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab. but that entry is clearly there07:33
ahmed:) is the problem with Ubuntu Breezy ??07:33
dooglusshining_: (it's just that I don't have "whatever"07:33
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dooglusSeveas: it appears to07:33
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Seveasthen let that finish and try agin, maybe the db is corrupt07:34
fbockstaelMWettendorf: maybe in /usr/share/fonts?07:34
yaaarMWettendorff: check the getting started guide in the ubuntu help section (click the lifesaver bouy at the top of your screen)07:34
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dooglusSeveas: it runs every day - but locate has been broken for over a week07:34
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fbockstaelor /var/lib07:34
Hendikinsahmed: Breezy is unlikely to be the problem, otherwise more users would be having the same trouble as you. Sounds like hardware.07:34
yaaarMWettendorff: there's a section on fonts there that takes you step by step07:34
topyliahmed: can you start _any_ graphical programs?07:34
MWettendorffyaaar: thanks07:35
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yaaarnp07:35
tbwdo i need to do something special to watch dvd's under breezy?07:35
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yaaartbw: yes.07:35
dooglus!dvd07:35
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:35
Seveasdooglus, and a dpkg --force-depends -P locate followed by a reinstall of it did not help?07:35
ubuntu__hello room07:35
shining_ahmed: did you try to launch it from a terminal ? is there any output?07:35
dooglusSeveas: I didn't try that.07:35
yaaartbw: check the getting started guide (see above comment to MWettendorff) and look for a link to a wiki page called "RestrictedFormats"07:35
pashawahmed,  did you login as root?07:35
tbwyaaar: Thanks07:35
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Hendikinstopyli: ahmed was saying something about Firefox crash -> kaboom. Doesn't sound like software to me.07:36
Hendikinspashaw: apparently they can't start an xterm, if I'm parsing it correctly07:36
yaaarso, anybody have a clue about that funny dvd autoloading problem? seems crazy to me07:36
Seveasdooglus, then try it :)07:36
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dooglusSeveas: I'll try an "updatedb" after replacing /usr/bin/slocate with my debuggable version and see if I can get it to run then07:36
ahmed:) only nautilius07:36
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tbw!dvd07:36
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:36
amiasahmed,  have you run memtest on that machine ? should be an option in the grub menu . If it shows any errors then try different RAM07:36
fizzlewhere is the mount location for cdrom07:36
topyliahmed: ah, but nautilus is already running all the time :)07:36
allison_1984tbw > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:36
MacXimaintopyli, When i Modify smb.conf do i need to restart for the changes to take effect?07:37
pashawlol he quit fast07:37
yaaartbw: allison_1984 just gave the link that really matters for that07:37
SeveasMacXimain, you only need to restart samba07:37
gnomefreakdooglus it finds everything than segmentation faults but its still finding the <object>07:37
Hendikinsamias: memtest86 or badblocks. Toss a coin, eh?07:37
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MacXimainthanks Seveas07:37
topyliMacXimain: yes, restart samba. sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart07:37
topyliMacXimain: no reboot07:37
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MacXimainthanks topyli07:37
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shining_MacXimain: reload should be enough if available07:37
Some_Bodynice, another moronic program from lifetime07:37
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topylishining_: true07:38
Some_Bodythese things make life worth living07:38
Some_Body:D07:38
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amiasHendikins,  i think ahmed just got eaten by the goblins that took his firefox , RIP07:38
SeveasSome_Body, please don't start off-topic talks07:38
Some_Bodyhehe, something on the paranormal07:38
Some_Bodyeh, ok07:38
Seveaswe have #ubuntu-offtopic for chater07:38
Hendikinsamias: heh07:38
topyliSome_Body: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic was created for our bullshit :)07:38
KindredI want to shrink some dvd's.. any ideas? :|07:38
dooglusgnomefreak: so you have the problem too07:39
amiasKindred,  stand further away ?07:39
yaaarKindred: shrink them down to cdrom size, or to single-layer dvd size?07:39
dooglusgnomefreak: locate shouldn't segfault - I'm surprised nobody has fixed it07:39
Kindredyeah single layer07:39
Hendikinstopyli: I have the same problem on moznet with off-topic stuff, except our off-topic channel is actually called #bs :P07:39
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SeveasKindred, knife, hacksaw?07:39
gnomefreakdooglus i see it this way if that is the biggest issue that your having with dapper smile :))07:39
yaaarKindred: use dvdshrink in wine07:39
topyliHendikins: :D07:39
MacXimainwhy do i have to be logged in to breezy in order to browse my shared folders07:39
JayLv99what is Cas Latency on RAM?07:39
tbwwoot07:39
tbwdvd playback07:39
Kindredhehe, I run 64 bit.. setting up a chroot to then run wine to then 'emulate' windows apps is not my idea of fun :P07:40
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dooglusgnomefreak: agreed.  there's not a lot to complain about.  probably my biggest complaint would be that my external monitor keeps blanking for a second every 5 seconds or so07:40
pashawJayLv99,    you can google that stuff its not #ubuntu  related07:40
yaaarKindred: well, I'll tell you what. If you find a native app that does it, let me know.07:40
amiasJayLv99,  its the timing of the memory , most is 3 unless you spent loads on it07:40
shining_dooglus: that's really weird07:40
gnomefreakmy moniter does that when i go to run an app07:40
dooglusshining_: what?07:40
JayLv99amias: would 2.5 be bad?07:40
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Seveasamias, -ETOPIC07:40
Seveasgo to #ubuntu-offtopic please for off-topic chat07:40
JayLv99ok07:41
JayLv99sorry07:41
Hendikinstopyli: The only problem is that people don't think #bs is a real channel ;-)07:41
ahmedHi again07:41
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yaaarKindred: I've searched for a long, long, loooong time for one that will shrink to dvd format while keeping the menus/special features/sound streams/subtitles/etc. Haven't found anything yet07:41
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yaaarKindred: but wine+dvdshrink works perfectly07:41
topyliHendikins: fools. those channels are the best07:41
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yaaarKindred: (on my 32b gear)07:41
pashawahmed,  logged in as normal user now?07:41
gnomefreakthey fixed the issues i was having except the anjuta issue :((07:41
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ahmed:) my PC stuck , so I had to reboot07:41
Kindredyaaar: okay thanks :) I should probably have mentioned I have xp installed still but a native app would have been great.07:41
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Hendikinsahmed: Have you considered running memtest86? It sounds like you may have a hardware issue.07:42
ahmedeverything is OK now ..... it seems I have a problem with my hardware as you said07:42
yaaarKindred: you might go check dvdrip ....the last time i looked at it it wouldn't output to single-layer dvd...but that's been a few months now, so maybe they added it.07:42
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pashawahmed,  lol    sure'07:42
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topyliKindred: there probably are apps for linux, but these kind of apps are normally console stuff ment for you to wrap up in your own specialized scripts07:42
ahmedmemtest .... ummm I'm gonna check07:43
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yaaarKindred: it's important to note that there isn't any reason for this app not to exist....transcode has everything needed to do the job, and one time i even did properly shrink a dvd from the command line. but i spent hours getting it done, and no one has written a gui to take the stupid calculations and arcane commands out of the job07:43
dooglusSeveas: are you not having the same problem with locate?  Or are you not running dapper?07:43
Seveasdooglus, the latter07:43
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topyliahmed: might be memory or hard disk. those are the usual suspects. might be too much heat for the cpu too, but then your whole box should crash07:44
mmhsscan some1 help me to install apache , php and mysql ?07:44
dooglusSeveas: I see.07:44
True_Chaoswhats the command to reinstall grub? Im on a liveCD right now...07:44
Kindredyaaar: yeah I did actually come across a howto on doing it through the command line, it was huge and would take me ages (literally hours) :)07:44
yaaarmmhss: what's the trouble07:44
ColonelPanique!tell mmhss about lamp07:44
gnomefreakreinstall-grub?07:44
dooglusso - does anyone run dapper and have a "locate" command which doesn't segfault?07:44
gnomefreakinstall-grub07:44
Seveasmmhss, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server07:44
yaaarKindred: yeah. same here. it can be done.....but it's not at all practical07:45
topyli:D07:45
shining_dooglus: you should file a bug report and that's it07:45
amiasanyone know how to configure metacity in dapper ? would like click to focus back again07:45
mmhssi tried to install it yestarday and i messed up few things07:45
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mmhssi installed php4 and 507:45
dooglusshining_: good idea07:45
True_Chaosgnomefreak: command not found :S07:45
gnomefreakwait07:45
mmhssand i think apache 1 and 207:45
dooglusshining_: I'd like to file the fix with it though07:45
mmhsslol07:45
gnomefreakim looking for bug now07:45
mmhssand now it doesnt work at all07:45
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dooglusgnomefreak: I looked a few days ago, but it wasn't there07:45
mmhsswell the apaches workin but php isnt07:45
topylimmhss: you should take care to remove everything so that you can start from scratch07:45
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ColonelPaniqueheh heh...MySQL 4 and 5 too? ;-)07:45
shining_dooglus: start looking in locate bugzilla then or on google07:45
yaaarwill apt-get allow you to install both php 4/5 and apache 1/2? that seems kind of silly07:46
mmhssi tired that but i cant get it to work :|07:46
shining_then you could try debugging it with gdb or something07:46
Seveasyaaar, why?07:46
amiasyaaar, somethings depend on particular versions , its quite sensible IMO07:46
Seveasthey don't byte each other if properly configured...07:46
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topylimmhss: did you use "purge" and see that all the config files are really gone too?07:46
mmhssno07:46
mmhsshow i do that07:46
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yaaarSeveas: dunno....i've just never in my life had any reason to want both apaches....07:47
dooglusgnomefreak: it's here - http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21525 - my mistake07:47
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topylimmhss: in synaptic, see which packages have "residual config" and mark them for "complete removal"07:47
mmhssok to make this clear i was hi yestarday and i kinda didn know what i was doin ok :)07:47
gnomefreakty i was getting there :))07:47
yaaaron my gentoo servers i don't think you can do it without some serious messing around....a use flag determines whether you want 1 or 207:47
ahmedI guess it is both .... ram & hard desk ..... not over-heating since it is very cold here07:48
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Seveasyaaar, that's broken07:48
yaaarmmhss: that's no excuse, son; you need to function better when high ;-)07:48
Seveas(as so many things on gentoo are...)07:48
shining_dooglus: yes nice :)07:48
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stark-johanI have two ethernet cards, one for internet and one for my lan. How would I connect to internal adresses? I run an ftp on another computer in my LAN.07:48
True_Chaosgrr, grub-install, which is the correct command, apparently isnt found07:48
topylimmhss: maybe this will be of assistance: http://snipurl.com/l85i07:48
gnomefreaklooks like no fix07:48
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Some_Bodyhm07:48
mmhsshaha yaaar :P i know but still im noob when it comes to linux :P07:49
yaaarSeveas: I disagree, and dare say that the very bright folks in #gentoo-apache could argue the point more effectively than myself07:49
Some_Bodytry installing lilo or another bootloader07:49
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mmhssits my ~ 3rd day now :p07:49
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ahmedthank you all ................bye :)07:49
amiaswhen i try to adjust themes i am told that either metacity is not installed ( it is) or gconf has no theme schemas , anyone got a fix07:49
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marcsterhi. is there a tool in ubuntu which lists all processes to be run on boot, similar to chkconfig?07:50
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lsuactiafneranyone know of a grapical program to find duplicate files over a 500G system? around 100G is obsolete files ect07:50
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Some_Bodyaw, somebody stole my domain name07:51
Some_BodyANGER07:51
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SeveasSome_Body, last time: no off-topicness in here07:51
shining_Some_Body: you stole your own domain name? that's weird07:51
True_Chaosok, grub-install doesnt work, says command not found... I dont know what else to do07:51
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Some_Bodyok, right, sorry...07:51
yaaarmmhss: ok, did you go into synaptic and completely remove the ones that topyli said?07:51
mmhssso should i go to synaptic pm and set all the components from php apache mysql to complete removal ? and then try from scrach ?07:51
marcsterhi. is there a tool in ubuntu which lists all processes to be run on boot, similar to chkconfig?07:51
gnomefreakTrue_Chaos, how bout update-grub07:51
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shining_mmhss: whats the problem?07:52
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CountDownHappy New Year.  Anyone know why Firefox on Breezy is crashing so often?07:52
gnomefreakCountDown, what version of FF07:52
topylimmhss: that's what i would do, and then follow some good tutorial to reinstall the services07:52
True_Chaosgnomefreak: command not found07:52
HendikinsThis will be the last question I look at before bed time07:53
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gnomefreakummmmmmm True_Chaos ok try a totally different command07:53
CountDowngnomefreak: I think it's the default version - 1.0.7.07:53
mmhssok removed07:53
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shining_True_Chaos: slocate grub ?07:53
HendikinsCountDown: Using extensions, tweaks, anything like that?07:53
PeteyPablohow do i tar.gz a file from command line?07:54
gnomefreakCountDown,  have you tried running it in terminal see if it crashes than too?07:54
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shining_PeteyPablo: man tar07:54
gnomefreakubotu tell PeteyPablo abotu tar07:54
yaaarin evolution's setup, what does "automatically syncronize remote mail locally" mean? is that like keeping a local copy of imap messages so i can view them w/o network connection?07:54
CountDownHendikins: I have the standard Flash player installed, but otherwise no.07:54
CountDowngnomefreak: I'll try running in terminal.07:54
stark-johanI have two ethernet cards, one for internet and one for my lan. How would I connect to internal adresses? I run an ftp on another computer in my LAN and I had no problems connecting to it in windows.07:54
gnomefreakubotu tell PeteyPablo about compile07:54
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shining_CountDown: flash could make it crash07:55
PeteyPablo?07:55
shining_CountDown: are you using composite?07:55
mmhsstopyli how do i ues "purge"?07:55
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yaaarPeteyPablo: you need to get the utility "tar" by apt-getting it, then read its man page for extraction usage07:55
gnomefreakPeteyPablo, i sugest reading as much as you cant before attempting to compile a tar07:55
PeteyPabloi just want to archive some files.07:55
topylimmhss: sudo apt-get remove --purge FOO07:55
gnomefreakcan/not cant07:56
mmhssk:P07:56
yaaarPeteyPablo: wait, sorry, i'm nuts07:56
topylimmhss: where foo is the thing you're uninstallng :)07:56
yaaarPeteyPablo: you don't need to apt-get it07:56
PeteyPabloi know ..07:56
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mmhss:P07:56
PeteyPabloso tar -c -gzip file ?07:56
CountDowngnomefreak, Hendikins, shining_ : I can't identify a pattern as to when it crashes.  shining_, what is composite?  Again, I'll try running in terminal.  Thanks.07:56
True_Chaosshining_: /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/grub-menu.lst, and /usr/share/vim/vim63/stbtax/grub.vim is all it returns07:56
yaaarPeteyPablo: that i think will output it to stdout07:56
PeteyPablowhats stdout ?07:56
shining_True_Chaos: so install grub07:57
PeteyPabloi want to make a archive like archive manager does07:57
yaaarPeteyPablo: in this case, the screen07:57
MacXimaintopyli, no luck.... I can't even connect to it now07:57
yaaarPeteyPablo: you probably want to do      tar -xvzf outputfile.tgz inputfile07:57
tarvidany recommendations on a usb 56k modem?07:57
True_Chaosshining_: how? I cant seem to do it... im using a liveCD right now07:57
amiaswhen i try to adjust themes in dapper  i am told that either metacity is not installed ( it is) or gconf has no theme schemas , anyone got a fix07:57
yaaarPeteyPablo: doh!@07:57
yaaarPeteyPablo: you probably want to do      tar -cvzf outputfile.tgz inputfile07:57
topyliMacXimain: to apache? i think you just uninstalled it :)07:58
mmhssok i did apt-get install apache2 and php4 exactly how it its in the wiki tutorial and still php doesnt work :|07:58
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shining_True_Chaos: use another live cd then07:58
MacXimainsamba . i can't write to a shared folder07:58
shining_mmhss: define doesn't work07:58
mmhsswhen i access a php file | ff ask me where should i save it07:58
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yaaarPeteyPablo: see, the -f option tells it to write the end result to a file....without it, it just spews into the screen (stdout)07:58
topyliMacXimain: i'm beginning to blame the mac clients :\07:58
Mitjakbluetoothd: Bind failed: No such device" messages. Is there any way to turn it off?07:58
mmhssits trying to download it07:58
shining_mmhss: firefox?07:58
lillpelleis it possible to show "shockwave >= 8.5.1" in ubuntu?07:58
mmhssyes07:58
PeteyPabloyaaar: tanks07:58
MacXimainlol07:58
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shining_mmhss: clean cache07:59
tarvidmmhss, look for the apache2-php module07:59
yaaarPeteyPablo: however, you can redirect stdout to a file as well, or to another program....like this:    tar -czv inputfile >> outputfile.tgz07:59
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ManifoldArgh.07:59
ManifoldGuys, I just closed the default panel at the top of the screen.07:59
topyliMacXimain: it's nervewrecking. when i finally got my samba setup just right, i've been saving that config file forever :)07:59
Bachus9000I have a Samba server running on Debian with a printer shared.  Ubuntu can print to it fine (using either Samba or CUPS) but Windows can not.07:59
ManifoldHow do I get it back?07:59
mmhsscash removed | didnt help07:59
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shining_mmhss: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/08:00
SeveasManifold, rightclick on top panel, select "new panel"08:00
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shining_mmhss: using apache2 ?08:00
Seveasand re-add everything that was on the panel :)08:00
mmhssyes08:00
ManifoldYeah, but that doesn't give me an option to make it how it looked like before.08:00
holycowguys ... where would i have seen 'insert special character'?  i thought that would of been an app in applications/accessories?08:00
ManifoldXD.08:00
SeveasManifold, (window list, show desktop, desktop list, trash)08:00
yaaarPeteyPablo: the >> takes the stdout and appends it to the end of a file (creating it if nonexistant). you can use > instead of >> to start at the beginning of the file instead of appending, overwriting anything that's there. and you can use | to send it to std input on another program08:00
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mmhssin /etc/ i have apache and apache2 for some reason :|08:00
mmhssshould i remove the apache :P08:01
mmhss108:01
PeteyPabloyaaar: linux is so powerful :-P08:01
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yaaarPeteyPablo: well, more accurately, bash is powerful08:01
shining_mmhss: let it atm08:01
yaaarPeteyPablo: but yes, it is.08:01
shining_mmhss: what does ls return?08:01
shining_do you show php files?08:01
mmhss ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/08:01
mmhsscgi.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load08:01
topyliMacXimain: here's my smb.conf if it might be of any help: http://siltala.net/smb.conf08:01
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shining_mmhss: you didn't even install apache php mod?08:02
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shining_how could it work then08:02
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mmhsshmm i think i did | i did apt-get install apache2 and php4 ( it should work)08:02
shining_no08:02
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shining_mmhss: what tarvid said08:02
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MacXimainthanks topyli08:03
KarlosIIbbiab08:03
mmhssapache2-php module08:03
lsuactiafnerSeveas : know of a grapical program to find and mass delete duplicate and obsolete files?08:03
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yaaarmmhss: if you just install "php4" you get the cli version of php. there's a second package for "mod_php" which is an apache module to use php in websites08:03
marcsterhi. is it necessary to simultaneously run atd, cron, and anacron? isnt this redundancy?08:03
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mmhssthis libapache2-mod-php4?08:04
amiasare there no theme schemas available for dapper yet ?08:04
Seveaslsuactiafner, no, sorry08:04
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Seveasmmhss, that or libapache-mod-php508:04
bogdan_does somebody know how to  manually change network setting from dhcp to static08:04
shining_mmhss: I was wondering the same, which ones are really needed. atd and cron arent the same, I don't know what atacron is08:04
Seveasbogdan_, edit /etc/network/interfaces08:04
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Seveassee the manpages for interfaces for all details08:04
yaaarbogdan_: permanently or one boot only08:04
shining_s/mmhss/marcster08:04
Seveas(and examples)08:04
mmhssthat one php4 is installed08:04
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fizzlehey i just hooked up a cd burner that uses ide-scsi emulation how do i get my cd burner working?08:05
amiasbogdan_, or for a one of ifconfig eth0 ip.ad.dr.es08:05
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stjepanhi08:05
stjepananyone here uses ATI driver?08:05
shining_stjepan: no one08:05
yaaarfizzle: what kernel do you run? (try 'uname -a' to see)08:05
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yaaarfizzle: you probably don't need scsi-emu08:05
stjepanshining_: why?08:05
fizzleLinux ubuntu 2.6.10-6-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 10:54:06 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:05
shining_stjepan: ati sucks?08:05
bogdan_Seveas: I tried  to but I applied    network script and I got  only lo08:05
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Seveasstjepan, I use the latest fglrx08:05
tbwI'm running a pentium-m laptop08:06
yaaarstjepan: i think he's pulling your leg...08:06
amiashas click to focus been disabled for a reason or is this a bug ?08:06
stjepanSeveas: what's the output of 'fglrxinfo' ?08:06
tbwCentrino 1.7ghz... any ideas about what I can do make performance better?08:06
yaaarstjepan: i dare say someone is using ati. (but not me, and obviously not shining_ )08:06
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pashawtbw,  buy a 1.8 centrino?08:06
Seveasstjepan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/649208:06
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yaaarfizzle: you have no need of ide-scsi. cd burning really ought to just work out of box)08:07
mmhssumm any ideas what shold i do now :P08:07
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mmhsscause it still doesnt work :(08:07
fizzleyaaar, /dev/cdrw?08:07
Seveasmmhss, sudo a2enmod php408:07
yaaarfizzle: have you tried burning a disc yet?08:07
tbwpashaw: well I've got a 7200RPM laptop drive on the way...08:07
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stjepanSeveas:08:07
stjepanwow08:07
shining_mmhss: you show php now?08:07
tbwpashaw: and im looking into the 2ghz version08:07
mmhssno08:07
fizzleyaaar, nope how?08:07
Seveasstjepan, ?08:07
fizzleyaaar, k3b?08:07
stjepanSeveas: how did you install it?08:07
tbwpashaw: this POS is 400mhz FSB08:07
fizzleyaaar, or should i try command line?08:07
Seveasstjepan, .deb packages08:07
yaaarfizzle: sure, or gnomebaker, or serpentine, or nautilus.....08:07
stjepanSeveas: official driver, right?08:07
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pashawtbw,   your question was so general     i was making a joke08:07
stjepanSeveas: proprietary, closedsource?08:08
yaaarfizzle: it doesn't really matter.08:08
fizzleyaaar, which one uses less memory for the gui08:08
Seveasstjepan, yep08:08
tbwpashaw: I know you were.08:08
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yaaarfizzle: are you running gnome?08:08
mmhssthat libapache2-mod-php4 was installed already | so i reinstaled it just to make a sure its installed and ... i restarted the apache server as well and still doesnt work08:08
tbwpashaw: I was adding more info.08:08
fizzleyaaar,  fluxbox08:08
yaaarfizzle: k. do you want a data, audio, or what?08:08
stjepanSeveas: cool08:08
christos_Hi! Just a quick one... I've downloaded Kubuntu Dapper (both 386+amd64) dvds on 26Dec, but although the md5sums are ok there is in both of them a problem and there can be no installation at all, Do You Know if there is a real problem in these distros? I've seen that some new Dappers appeared in 30Dec. any ideas?08:08
stjepanSeveas: where did you get driver from?08:08
Seveasstjepan, if you want the debs: mirror.ubuntulinux.nl08:08
fizzleright now im tryin to burn isos08:08
pashawtbw,    id check  if DMA is on     RAM usage, swap usage      check top  for process eating resources  etc08:08
Seveashehe, read your mind :)08:08
yaaarfizzle: ok. what file manager have you been using?08:09
mmhssbtw that libapache2-mod-php4 doesnt seems to work :| its not in the apache2/mod-enabled/08:09
Seveasmmhss, sudo a2enmod php408:09
stjepanSeveas: you just installed it?08:09
fizzleyaaar, none, been using xterm ;)08:09
Seveasstjepan, no, a few days ago08:09
tbwpashaw, : yeah i looked with hdparm firs thing08:09
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stjepanSeveas: I mean, you just installed it and everything worked?08:09
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tbwI've got 749MB of ram free08:09
pashawtbw,   how much RAM and what desktop you running? gnome?08:09
tbwusing 10mb of swap08:09
MacXimainwell im outta here... need to take a break08:09
Seveasstjepan, you have to edit xorg.conf :)08:10
MacXimainthanks topyli08:10
tbwpashaw: I've got a gig of ram, and yeah, gnome08:10
mmhssSeveas, still not workin08:10
yaaarfizzle: you can just go into nautilus and right-click and click 'burn-to-disc' to burn an iso. i don't know what the mem requirement of that is, but i wouldn't think it would be too stringent. are you *really* tight on mem?08:10
pashawtbw,    whats slow?08:10
Seveasmmhss, what was the output of that command?08:10
mmhss sudo a2enmod php408:10
mmhssModule php4 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.08:10
fizzleyaaar, indeed, 128mb08:10
yaaarfizzle: but anyhow, it's a simple command to burn an iso cli as well....just let me remember it08:10
mmhssahh08:10
Seveasmmhss, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 reload08:10
fizzleyaaar, cdrecord speed=4 dev=0,0,0 image.iso08:10
fizzlei think thats it08:11
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tbwpashaw: dvd's arekinda choppy.. totem gets my audio all out of sync on XViD playback08:11
maxwellSorry to interrupt.08:11
maxwellbut08:11
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damnsmall537hey mates08:11
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yaaarfizzle: looks pretty reasonable. i'd say maybe add a dao mode....lemme look for flag08:11
mmhssstill doesnt work08:11
maxwellhow do I open an SH file08:11
maxwellyeah08:11
tbwpashaw, : I even added a -u 55 to acpid so that 55% usage was the kicking point08:11
shining_mmhss: lol08:11
maxwellI'm a noob08:11
damnsmall537i can't get to eth0 with ubuntu 5.0408:11
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fizzleyaaar, my burner is supposed to burn at 32x but i can only burn at 4x for some reason :(08:11
yaaarfizzle: hehe.....    -dao08:11
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shining_mmhss: cache cleared?08:11
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mmhssyes08:11
mmhss:|08:11
damnsmall537can't connect network in ubuntu08:11
maxwellbut how do I open an SH file08:11
yaaarfizzle: what happens when you change the speed param08:12
mmhssApache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.4.0-3ubuntu1 Server at localhost Port 8008:12
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dooglusSeveas: the command you suggested worked for me!08:12
fizzleyaaar, the cd fails to burn08:12
mmhssbut still ff trying to dl the file ;|08:12
shining_mmhss: it should work now08:12
maxwellI downloaded a game called CUBE08:12
dooglusSeveas: I'll add a comment to the bug report saying so.08:12
antubisHelp me! I`m using a new ubuntu installation but my mouse is not found. Its a serial mouse.08:12
maxwelland it won't open08:12
pashawtbw,   sounds like a codescs issue  with the out of sync08:12
yaaarfizzle: man that sucks. does it give you an explanation08:12
soultaker1974hello to all08:12
mmhssahh it does08:12
fizzleyaaar, i think it did but its been a while since i tried08:12
maxwellHELLO?08:12
mmhssi restarted ff and its workin now08:12
shining_mmhss: :)08:12
mmhssthx:P08:12
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tbwpashaw: I've got every gstreamer codec I can seeinstalled08:12
yaaarfizzle: hmmm08:13
maxwellhow do I open an SH file?08:13
christos_ Hi all! Just a quick one... I've downloaded Kubuntu Dapper (both 386+amd64) dvds on 26Dec, but although the md5sums are ok there is in both of them a problem and there can be no installation at all, Do You Know if there is a real problem in these distros? I've seen that some new Dappers appeared in 30Dec. any ideas?08:13
mmhssbtw what should i do w/ /etc/apache (1)08:13
mmhssshould i remove it?08:13
maxwellhello08:13
maxwellyou all suck08:13
yaaarfizzle: have you read through the cdrecord man page to see if it has suggestions for speed problems?08:13
fizzleyaaar, im getting alot of errors under dmesg for my burner08:13
shining_mmhss: whats in there?08:13
yaaarfizzle: what do they say?08:13
gnomefreaklol08:13
gdgardnerwI am having trouble hotsyncing my palm pilot with ubuntu. Can anybody help me?08:13
yaaarfizzle: can you pastebin them?08:13
mmhssls /etc/apache08:13
mmhssaccess.conf.dpkg-inst.queue  modules.conf.dpkg-inst.queue08:13
mmhsshttpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue   srm.conf.dpkg-inst.queue08:13
fizzleyaaar, havent looked at man pages yet one sec08:13
fizzleyaaar, umm thats too much to type out08:14
MorrowynKyral, the nofb option in grub didnt work out , screen stays blank/black on gdm loading X08:14
shining_mmhss: looks weird08:14
fizzleyaaar, but i can pm u 3-5 lines of the error if u ant08:14
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yaaarfizzle: the problem machine not net-connected to the machine you are irc from?08:14
shining_mmhss: I wonder if there is a way to remove it with apt-get or dpkg08:14
pashawtbw,   your question would be better  phrased    choppy out of sync play back playing DVD     i havent had enough trouble with that stuff to help you much08:14
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fizzlethe net is connected to it, its the computer im on now, i just dont know how to copy in xterm08:14
tbwpashaw: No, it wouldn't.08:15
tbwpashaw: Two seperate issues.08:15
Seveasmmhss, sudo dpkg --configure --pending08:15
tbwPashaw: Choppy DVD playback + out of sync audio in XViD.08:15
pashawtbw,    huh?  how you figure08:15
pashawtbw,   ohh i misunderstoof what you wrote08:15
tbwnod08:15
tbws'all good08:15
yaaarfizzle: ok08:15
pashawtbw,   much better  questions than   anyone performance tips  :P08:16
fizzleyaaar, shall i pm u?08:16
yaaark08:16
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pashawtbw,   i know id heard the evening guys(my time)   talk about the movie play issues alot08:16
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tbwHrm08:17
mmhssSeveas, no out put08:17
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psycosehi08:18
DaveRagHi everyone. I have a webserver set up on Ubuntu 5.10, none of my websites seem to be able to make Xmlhttprequest calls. Is there something extra I need to add in Apache?08:18
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mmhssalos sudo apt-get remove --purge apache says pachage apache is not installed08:18
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odatpashaw, have you done DMA stuff?08:18
shining_mmhss: use dpkg or synaptic08:19
soultaker1974hello to all can any one help to recover my /home files08:19
amiasDaveRag, a handler of some kind , what are the calls going to ?08:19
mmhssnothing in there is selected as instaled when i do search for apache108:19
soultaker1974i am at live CD 5.0408:19
dooglushow can i find out what package provides a given file?08:20
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tbwi finally got this darn thing to suspend to ram and wakeup properly08:20
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DaveRagamias: it's the livesearch function on the k2 theme for wordpress08:20
psycoselook like some wifi card need kernel with 4K stack, how to know more about this for defaults Breezy kernel (i386-i686) any tips ? thanks08:20
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shining_psycose: are you sure?08:21
antubisWhy I cant write my xorg.conf file? It says permition denied08:21
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soultaker1974can anyone know how to recover files using the live CD ?08:22
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tbwsoultaker1974, : What do you mean recover?08:22
nickruddooglus, if it's on your machine, dpkg -S /path/to/file, otherwise packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file08:22
shining_psycose: you can do 'grep 4KSTACK /boot/config-$kerver' to see the current setting. I think 4k is disabled in all ubuntu kernels08:22
tbwsoultaker1974, : There's a live cd out there with a big bunch of of utilities on it... for recovery08:22
psycoseshining_, well i try to help someone with a inventel wifi usb dongle  UR054G(R1) and the 4KStack issue may be why it's not working ...08:22
shining_I know some drivers have problem with 4k, but the other way around..08:23
soultaker1974i have install ubuntu 5.10 on a Hard drive but i dont know what happend the graphic mode wont work08:23
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amiasDaveRag, so is the handler failing08:23
shining_psycose: so it isn't the problem08:23
stjepanSeveas: how did you edited xorg.conf? What have you changed?08:23
dooglusnickrud: thanks.  i would usually use apt-file, but that doesn't work on dapper08:23
Pygistjepan: what seems to be the issues08:23
shining_psycose: does he have 4k enabled or disabled?08:24
nickrudI guess the db needs updating then. Breezy was that way for a while as well.08:24
stjepanPygi: I can't get 3D acceleration with my ATI Radeon 966008:24
Pygihuh08:24
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soultaker1974were i can dowload tha Lice recovery cd ?08:24
shining_:p08:24
Pygiubotu tell stjepan about ATI08:24
psycoseshining_, interesting ... well he has a default breezy kernel ... i must see with is config file ...08:24
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soultaker1974were i can dowload tha Live recovery cd ?08:24
Pygistjepan: that's easy :P08:24
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Pygistjepan: ubotu just told you how08:24
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stjepanwho's ubotu? :)08:26
Pygi!ubotu08:26
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.08:26
psycoseshining_, CONFIG_4KSTACKS is not set, any tips ?08:26
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shining_psycose: no, I just don't think it's the issue08:27
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gclericno more regatu mr. ubotu... =)08:27
Pygi!patience08:27
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.08:27
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Pygi:)08:27
siglappylol08:27
stjepan!help08:27
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Pygistjepan: do not abuse bot08:28
psycoseshining_, i thought that because i read a gentoo guy activate it with ndiswrapper ... and it work's for him ;-) ...08:28
stjepanPygi: I must recompile kernel :)08:28
stjepan:(08:28
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Pygistjepan: why is that?08:28
Pygipsycose: what seems to be an issue?08:29
shining_stjepan: default kernel should work08:29
soultaker1974thanks08:29
soultaker1974foun the cd08:29
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gnomefreakstjepan, you said you need to recompile kernel to get ati working?????? tell me im lost please08:30
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Pygignomefreaky: Ping08:30
yaaarso i've got the strangest problem with detecting dvds. when i put a factory movie dvd in the drive, what happens depends on what was in the drive last.08:30
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gnomefreakPygi, not really here just throwing my 2cents in :))08:31
shining_gnomefreak: it's possible if he was using a custom kernel08:31
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Pygignomefreak: then come back here :P08:31
Pygishining: he wasn't using custom kernel, I am sure of it :P08:31
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shining_:)08:31
gnomefreaktrue08:31
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gnomefreakPygi, i cant this is too much fun08:31
Pygignomefreak: huh :)08:31
yaaarif the last disc inserted was a (at least partially full) data cd, it works right...totem comes up and plays it. if the last disc was a blank cd, it brings up the dialog for burning a cd.08:31
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stjepangnomefreak: yeah, because of fglrx-sources08:32
psycosePygi using ndiswrapper with inventel wifi usb dongle  UR054G(R1) on fresh Breezy i386-i686 don't work for him (driver present, hardware not present) i thought that may be the problem was the fact 4KSTACKS was not set on his kernel ...08:32
Pygistjepan: please don't say stupid things :P08:32
shining_lol08:32
yaaarin the latter case, if you try to dismiss that window and open totem and play it it fails08:32
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Pygipsycose: huh, modular kernel design? modprobe?08:33
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shining_gnomefreak: still trying?08:33
yaaarthe weird part is that it fails saying it couldn't find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab. but it's right there....08:33
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Pygiyaaar: huh08:33
yaaaralso, if you boot the machine with a dvd in the drive the same thing happens.08:33
gnomefreak!ati08:33
ubotuati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1008:33
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gnomefreakthat doesnt help?08:33
kennethhi.i have the ubuntu livecd, i want to use it to instal on my laptop now that i am happy with it.08:34
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yaaarPygi: ubuntu has an extremely weird pattern of recognizing and not recognizing video dvd's in my system08:34
tbwvideo ipod, any chance?08:34
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Pygikenneth: u cant install from live cd :P08:34
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kennethcan i do this or do i have to download the iso again08:34
gnomefreakkenneth, you cant08:34
psycosePygi sorry i don't get you08:34
Pygipsycose: huh, k08:34
gnomefreakkenneth, download iso for install08:34
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Pygiyaaar: heh :/08:34
LiGhTeRhi all =) i have a huge probel08:35
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LiGhTeRproblem*08:35
kennethopps.thanks anyway08:35
LiGhTeRwith installing java :/:/08:35
mikearthurhey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?08:35
gnomefreakLiGhTeR, is it a secret?08:35
LiGhTeRcan someone help me ?08:35
PygiLighter:08:35
Pygi!java08:35
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs08:35
Pygi!javadebs08:35
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy08:35
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LiGhTeRno :P i did hit enter by accident :P08:35
fizzle!cdrecord08:35
ubotuI haven't a clue, fizzle08:35
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fizzleubotu, tell fizzle how to burn cds08:35
shining_mikearthur: just configure your kernel correctly08:35
yaaarPygi: if i boot the system with a dvd in the drive, it shows up on the desktop as "dvdrom" instead of the usual volume label. and opening it gives you an empty directory. opening totem gives you an error about not being able to find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab, even though the line is plain as day. but if you take the dvd out and put a data cd in, and then swap them back, it works fine.08:35
fizzlegrrrr08:36
maruchani have question, is there a program that i can use to crop a video file?08:36
fizzleyaaar, im back -.-08:36
yaaarfizzle: story?08:36
Sturgeonubotu, tell me how to make money08:36
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Pygiyaaar: mind to open ssh so I can see?08:36
fizzleyaaar, i installed cdrecord and i get alot of errors08:36
Sturgeon:(08:36
gnomefreak!make08:36
ubotugnomefreak: What?08:36
{alejandro}ok, so the anger begins08:36
gnomefreaknm ubotu08:36
yaaarPygi: I'd rather not...08:36
{alejandro}I am having serious ass troubles with alsa08:36
Pygiyaaar: ah,k08:36
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fizzleyaaar, cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open /dev/pg*. Cannot open scsi driver08:37
{alejandro}when I use alsa with xmms I get sound for one second and then it dies08:37
yaaarPygi: it's kind of a hassle the way this network is setup08:37
{alejandro}I am using onboard sound08:37
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fizzleyaaar, thats the main error, i get thst when i run cdrecord -scanbus08:37
gnomefreak{alejandro}, is it alsa or is it sound card?08:37
yaaarPygi: my gentoo server is the router, and the current dest of ssh08:37
{alejandro}gnomefreak can't be certain08:37
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{alejandro}gnomefreak I am using alsa though08:38
{alejandro}gnomefreak no esound or arts or nothin'08:38
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yaaarfizzle: that's no big deal. i get that too.08:38
gnomefreak{alejandro}, what is the problem other than no sound08:38
yaaarfizzle: i think everyone using 2.6 gets that08:38
fizzleyaaar, yes but it doesnt show me any devices08:38
yaaarme neither08:38
fizzlemhm08:38
fizzlewell what is the device name ?08:38
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{alejandro}gnomefreak I do get sound! I get sound for a second when I play a file with aplay or xmms through alsa08:38
fizzle/dev/hdb?08:38
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yaaarer....08:39
yaaarfizzle: good question08:39
yaaarfizzle: i really think it's just the device file08:39
{alejandro}gnomefreak but nothing more...08:39
yaaarfizzle: on slack were you useing 2.408:39
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{alejandro}gnomefreak want to see my devices etc?08:39
fizzleyaaar,  yes08:39
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yaaarfizzle: yeah, that explains it....things have changed a lot there. ide-scsi is no longer used, and apparently scanbus doesn't work with the new setup08:40
yaaarfizzle: but try just specing the device file instead of a lun and see what happens08:40
gnomefreak{alejandro}, i have never seen that before. you get sound only for a sec while using xmms ext...08:40
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ManifoldCan Xchat minimize to the notification area?08:40
ulas_hi all08:40
topylicdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATAPI works08:41
{alejandro}gnomefreak the same with aplay08:41
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{alejandro}gnomefreak and beep08:41
{alejandro}gnomefreak alsa is the only sound server running08:41
ulas_i ve bought a new lcd. how do reconfigure x to take advantage of the second.08:41
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gnomefreak{alejandro}, im not sure ther ei dont use any music or video stuff here :))08:41
{alejandro}gnomefreak it's ok, thanks08:42
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fizzlegrrrrrrrr08:42
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{alejandro}gnomefreak I am hardly a newb but this has me stumped08:42
fizzletopyli, what should it ype to burn a cd?08:42
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topylifizzle: uhh... i usually type "man cdrecord", and then "/" and type "EXAMPLES" :)08:43
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topylifizzle: once i've found the device with scanbux08:43
windmill_laptophello, my nice new laptop has card reader which reads sd cards bu i can't make it work....08:43
topylibus even08:43
ulas_was it dpkg -pleasereconfigure xorg-server ?08:43
ManifoldCan Xchat minimize to the notification area?08:43
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gnomefreak-pleaseconfigure?08:44
{alejandro}cam anyone else help me with the sound problem08:44
{alejandro}there have got to be people who understand this madness08:44
ulas_Manifold: there should be a plugin for that..08:44
HappyFoolfwiw, i found this link useful for cd burning: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm08:44
ManifoldMM.08:44
ManifoldMm..08:44
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SycheManifold: xchat-systray or something in the repos08:45
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topylifizzle: what you want to know is the device. then use -dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc or whatever08:45
ulas_Manifold: xchat is gtk+ not very integrated with gnome i guess.08:45
fizzletopyli, ic ty08:45
ManifoldAha.08:45
ManifoldO.08:45
ManifoldOK.08:45
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knoppixHello I was hoping to get a little information about ubuntu.08:46
windmill_laptoplspci tells me : CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1 SmartCardBus MultiMediaBay Controller08:46
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ulas_gnomefreak: can it be -configureoriwillbreakyourlegs ?08:46
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knoppixAre ya'll using it?08:46
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windmill_laptopbut nothing happen when I put in my SD card08:46
knoppixI was wondering how easy it is to use.08:46
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mweknoppix: well this is the ubuntu support channel, so I guess so08:46
gnomefreaklol ulas_08:46
knoppixI installed mandrake linux and I'm having a lot of trouble with it.08:46
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gnomefreak!ubuntu08:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards08:47
knoppixI just recently discovered the name UBUNTU08:47
fizzlegr08:47
mweknoppix: harder than windoze, as easy or easier than any other easy linux distro08:47
knoppixAs of yesterday.08:47
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knoppixIs it easier than Mandrake Linux?08:47
ManifoldTrue, mwe08:47
KyralYou mean Mandriva?08:47
{alejandro}you will probably want to be able to use cli for some stuff08:47
knoppixI have both disks.08:47
gnomefreaki didnt find mandriva any easier than any other distro08:47
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mweknoppix: same category I would say08:48
knoppixMy system is messed up I just put in knoppix to get my system up at all.08:48
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gnomefreakwell with the ussual exceptions08:48
knoppixI have it on a cd.08:48
fizzlewtf08:48
ulas_knoppix: it is easier than every possible distro08:48
{alejandro}knoppix there is kubuntu if you like kde08:48
fizzleNo disk / Wrong disk!08:48
traegnomefreak, heh, you still at it huh?08:48
HymnToLifegnomefreak > same here08:48
topyliknoppix: i used to use mandrake for years. yes, ubuntu (and even debian these days) is easier. then again, i don't know what mandriva is like these days08:48
windmill_laptopso any one have a clue about the O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1?08:48
trae:)08:48
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vilkohi al08:48
knoppixI like kde.08:48
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vilkoi need some help08:49
ubuntu__nice weather eh08:49
trae<- occy08:49
vilkohow do i install anything on this stuff08:49
knoppixI'm ready to download a new operating system.08:49
ulas_gnomefreak: ok my last bet is -configureoriwillinstallanrpmbaseddistro08:49
gnomefreak!kubuntu08:49
ubotuhmm... kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/08:49
vilkolike amsn ?08:49
HymnToLifedoes anyone kno why I can't enable Connection Sharing in firestarter ?08:49
mweknoppix: in that case you want kubuntu, kubuntu.org08:49
{alejandro}knoppix yu might want to download kubuntu isntead of ubuntu if you want to use kde for a desktop instead of gnome08:49
{alejandro}knoppix or if you dig gnome go for ubuntu08:49
HymnToLifedhcp3-server is installed but I can't activate it in FS08:49
mweknoppix: it's the same base system but just has kde installed as the default instead of gnome08:49
tbwCan I add kde to a already installed ubuntu?08:49
{alejandro}tbw yes08:49
mwetbw: sure08:49
tbwI wonder how much it's gonna break everything08:50
tbw;)08:50
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mwetbw: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:50
{alejandro}tbw sudo apt-get install kde-desktop08:50
{alejandro}err08:50
topylitbw: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:50
{alejandro}woops08:50
{alejandro}it was kubuntu08:50
{alejandro}I am in debian mode today, sorry08:50
gnomefreak<<< xubuntu :))08:50
ulas_tbw: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -removeafter2days08:50
{alejandro}gnomefreak I concur08:50
vilkocan anyone help me pweez08:50
topyliheh08:50
vilkoim totally n00b to this linux even08:50
tbwHow up to date are the packages?08:50
ulas_tbw: which you will do eventually08:51
{alejandro}vilko what's up08:51
mwetbw: or you can get just the base, kdebase. then install any additional kde programs you need yourself08:51
topylivilko: you want to install amsn?08:51
tbwulas_: you think ?08:51
dooglusmy laptop's ethernet port is broken.  it works fine apart from the little 'clip' thing that keeps the wire in.  so if I move, the cable falls out.  any suggestions for how to keep it in?08:51
vilkoyeah08:51
gnomefreaktbw, for what os?08:51
vilkoubuntu08:51
yaaarhey guys.....the description of what's going on with my dvd detection was a bit longwinded, so could you please take a look here: http://pastebin.com/48754208:51
knoppixI'm pretty much a newbie to linux also.08:51
tbwgnomefreak, : Hrm?08:51
Seveasdooglus, duct tape, glue?08:51
ulas_tbw: no just joking. me just cant stand kde. but thats a matter of taste.08:51
gnomefreakdooglus, tape?08:51
topylivilko: and, if you search for it in the package manager, it's not there?08:51
knoppixI tried to do my updates for mandrake linux it totally messed up my system.08:51
mwetbw: it's the latest kde, if you use the unofficial mirror listed at kubuntu.org08:51
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knoppixI try to do rpms and can't figure out how to do them right.08:51
vilkohmz i just installed the os like 5 mins ago08:51
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knoppixMaybe I'm just going through a learning process.08:52
dooglusSeveas: the problem is, it's a long wire that goes down an air-vent duct a few floors to an office below.  if I use glue, I won't be able to take the laptop out of the flat ever agaib08:52
tbwI wonder which is faster...08:52
tbwkde or gnome08:52
vilkotply whre is that ?08:52
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dooglusagain08:52
{alejandro}tbw xfce408:52
ulas_ok someone make me remember X reconfigfure arg for dpkg08:52
knoppixBut then tried to update to linux. Now my operating system is not working at all.08:52
{alejandro}tbw that's faster08:52
topylivilko: you'll have to add some more software repositories, you just have the defaults08:52
topyli!repos08:52
tbwblackbox is even faster!08:52
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:52
Kyralsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:52
ulas_tbw: ferrari is faster08:52
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gnomefreakknoppix,  you need to use alien to do rpms but see alien here08:52
{alejandro}tbw heck yeah08:52
dooglusI was thinking that marmite would be a good solution.  any thoughts?08:52
gnomefreak!alien08:52
ubotu[alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/08:52
topylivilko: look at ubotu's note above08:52
ulas_tbw: second is gnome08:52
topylivilko: about universe and multiverse08:52
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tbwulas_: oh yea?08:52
CarlFKhow do I set what /dev the eject command defaults to?08:53
knoppixSomehow it ate all my glibc files.08:53
vilkodamn im totally cluless08:53
Octanei have a really dumb question... i am running pureftp and everytime someone uploads it writes as ftpuser and my normal user doesnt have w access to those files... how can i give it to him?08:53
ManifoldRunning Gnome-xchat now08:53
tbwI'm hoping this 7200rpm drive i ordered will speed things up08:53
tbw8MB cache08:53
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Kyral7200RPM is the standard I thought08:53
yaaardooglus: if you want something that's less of a pain than tape, you could consider taking some cat5 (a couple inches) with an rj45 plug on one end and an rj45 jack on the other, then epoxy the plug end into the laptop, and you have a new jack end....08:53
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tbwNot for my laptop08:53
vilkotopyli can we pm ?08:53
tbwmy laptop came with 420008:53
{alejandro}hey, once again, does anyone have expertise in matters pertaining to ALSA?08:53
{alejandro}I would appreciate their help08:53
ulas_tbw: install ubuntu and try to stick with gnome for a few days. if you are not happy you can always switch to kde.08:53
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topylivilko: we could, but you would miss the channel's support08:54
vilkoow ok08:54
dave_hello i am having difficulty with a shard lib that is not installed libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 does this mean anything to anyone?08:54
tbwulas_: I'm using gnome right now08:54
yaaar{alejandro}: go ahead and ask....only one way to find out08:54
topylivilko: don't trust one idiot when you have many! =)08:54
dooglusyaaar: that's a good idea.  thanks.08:54
ulas_tbw: ahh happy?08:54
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knoppixI'm at the point I have to repartition and totally reinstall and I might as well change operating systems if there is a better one than Mandrake Linux or Mandriva out there.08:54
HymnToLifedave_ > install the libstdc++ package...08:54
tbwulas_: hell I spent all weekend fscking with acpi settings to get the damn thing to sleep properly08:54
tbwulas_: It's okay..08:54
vilkowell actually i just want to install mplayer for so i can view divx and xvid files and msn so my father can chat over webcam !08:54
ulas_tbw: wellcome to the world of DIY.08:54
{alejandro}yaaar when I play sound through alsa (xmmms/beep with alsa driver, aplay), I get one second of sound before it stops08:54
vilkohehehe08:55
ProzzyHmm how do i make my user a "superuser"? just installed ubuntu today and was trying to install java, when i was doing the dpkg  -i it says i need superuser08:55
knoppixI read that ubuntu has debian and is easier than rpms.08:55
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tbwulas_: I used linux full time from 1995-200108:55
ulas_tbw: it is better than plug and pray i guess08:55
tbwulas_: this is CAKE ;)08:55
HymnToLifeknoppix > it is08:55
mweProzzy: learn to use sudo08:55
{alejandro}knoppix ubuntu uses apt, which is what debian uses08:55
dave_deing told it cant be found08:55
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yaaar{alejandro}: what aplay command are you using?08:55
vilkoamsn_0.95-ubuntu.powerpc.deb i dloaded that08:55
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mwe!tell Prozzy about root08:55
topylivilko: you can get that stuff from the universe and multiverse repositories08:55
vilkois that like zipped08:55
ulas_tbw: ohhh yea. well it really is. i remember old days.08:55
HymnToLife!tell Prozzy about sudo08:55
mwe!tell Prozzy about sudo08:55
{alejandro}yaaar, hold on lemme show you my devices08:55
gnomefreakdoesnt knoppix  use apt also08:55
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azionhey,can anyone tell me the comand to check the version of the kernel08:56
vilkoim on swedish system08:56
mweProzzy: read what ubotu /msg'ed you08:56
Prozzyhehe i was just reading the starter guide but okay :)08:56
vilkoso its al inswedish08:56
topylivilko: do you know about debian-like repositories that ubuntu uses? and how they're configured?08:56
ManifoldIs anyone running GNOME-Xchat here?08:56
knoppixty for all your help I guess I better look for a download site now.08:56
lightbrightgnomefreak: is knoppix as good as Ubuntu?08:56
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comunehello08:56
vilkoi dont know what that is even08:56
HappyFoolazion: uname -r08:56
mwelightbright: knoppix is a live cd08:56
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yaaarhey everybody, could you take a look here: http://pastebin.com/487542     ?? that's the weirdest thing i've seen lately08:56
gnomefreakive never used it but from my understanding knoppix is live cd for debian08:56
knoppixThis site is fast.08:56
topyliManifold: not likely. xchat-gnome is dead08:56
azionthanks08:56
dooglusSeveas: it turns out that your suggestion of uninstalling slocate and reinstalling it DOESN'T fix the problem...08:56
vilkono i dont know what it used08:57
vilkoand i dont know how they are configed08:57
lightbrightmwe: cant you install knpoix to hard drive?08:57
Seveasdooglus, too bad, it was just a guess08:57
dooglusSeveas: I misread, and just uninstalled it.  that put the old "find-utils" version of locate back in place, which works.08:57
comuneI've installed ubuntu with a creative webcam, using camorama I can see the image, but is black & white and broken horizontally and replied 1 time..how I can tune the video device?08:57
dooglusSeveas: reinstalling slocate brings the problem back08:57
knoppixA friend of mine gave me this knoppix cd.08:57
mwelightbright: it's not supported afaik08:57
topylivilko: so you downloaded a ppc package. do you have a mac?08:57
knoppixI just used to rescue my system and get online.08:57
knoppixSo I like that about it.08:57
lightbrightmwe: you are not sure?08:57
knoppixIt's a complete operating system on a cd.08:57
vilkono man im on a pc08:57
knoppixGreat rescue.08:57
vilkomacs sux08:57
mwelightbright: but I guess you can if your determined enough08:57
vilkolol08:57
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gnomefreakknoppix, what distro do you normally use?08:58
topylivilko: so, throw that file away :)08:58
{alejandro}ok yaaar http://pastebin.com/487523 is an lspci08:58
vilkoow ok08:58
dave_HymnToLife cant find it in repositories08:58
gnomefreakmwe, i think install knoppix is like installing ubuntu from livecd08:58
{alejandro}yaar and http://pastebin.com/487555 is /proc/asound/pcm08:58
knoppixAbout 3 weeks I've been playing with Mandrake linux 10.1 and Mandriva 2006.08:58
knoppixI'm not impressed with Mandriva 2006 it doesn't have the drivers.08:58
gnomefreakknoppix, if you ask me youll enjoy ubuntu more08:58
topylivilko: do this: open a terminal. in the menu, apps -> accessories -> terminal08:58
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knoppixI was using free mandriva before that.08:59
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knoppixI've been a windows user for a long time.08:59
graymanmandriva and co are not that good08:59
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stjepanSeveas: what's your graphics card?08:59
tbwI shall return all sorts of kubuntu'd08:59
albinoloveratswould somebody be able to help me with a sound problem?08:59
knoppixMandriva wants money.08:59
Jeff12088Just installed KDE... much much much better08:59
HymnToLifedave_ > do you have universe/multiverse ?08:59
gnomefreakmandriva is crap i used it for like 2 months and every update would overwrite my grub file and only boot to mandriva08:59
stjepanSeveas: I've got ATI Radeon 966008:59
lsuactiafneryou cant say Mandrake ect doesnt have drivers08:59
knoppixty gnome freak.08:59
vilkook im in terminal08:59
lsuactiafnerevery linux uses the the same kernel08:59
lsuactiafnerand drivers depends on the kernel08:59
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vilkowhat now =?09:00
topylivilko: do this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:00
dave_HymnToLife I think so09:00
lsuactiafnerjust compile the correct kernel or take a kernel from another distribution known to work09:00
knoppixDoes kubutu have the drivers?09:00
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graymanyou install drivers09:00
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topylivilko: that's the file where your machine looks for software sources. you don't surf the web like windows users :)09:00
mwegnomefreak: , lightbright according to http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/General_FAQ it seems knoppix is only available as a live cd/dvd09:00
gnomefreaklsuactiafner, the kernels are diffferent from distro to distro arnt they?09:00
graymanthe kernel is the same for all distros09:00
vilkotopyli its in swedish so i dont know what it looks like09:00
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gnomefreakmwe,  i know09:00
knoppixI tyried to install just mandriva and it made my screen all jittery double images.09:00
yaaar{alejandro}: what aplay command are you using?09:00
fizzledoes ubuntu kernel come with the Microsoft Joliet CDROM extensions support09:00
mwegnomefreak: so what did you mean?09:01
topylivilko: the sources.list file is in swedish?09:01
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yaaarfizzle: yea09:01
gnomefreakmwe i said its like installing ubuntu from live cd09:01
gnomefreakyou cant do it09:01
fizzleyaaar, is it turned on by default09:01
Jeff12088anyone have any idea what that kubuntu offtopic server is?09:01
Jeff12088chanel i mean09:01
Seveasstjepan, radeon mobility 960009:01
vilkook opend that09:01
gnomefreak#kubuntu-offtopic09:01
lsuactiafnergnomefreak : yes, but mostly the same, but i would compile my own kernel, or use a kernel that works before making a decision on a distribution09:01
Jeff12088ok thanks09:01
HymnToLifedave_ > strange, I can find it in synaptic09:01
yaaarfizzle: i sure think so.....that's nearly universal...09:01
vilkono it sources it in english09:01
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HymnToLifelibstdc++5 is even on the Ubuntu CD09:01
True_Chaosgood god09:02
fizzleyaaar,  ok just checking09:02
dave_HymnToLife libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.309:02
yaaari don't recal the module name, or the config name....but i'd think it was a safe bet09:02
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lsuactiafnerif i did i wouldnt be using ubuntu since the kernels suck on my hardware (asus a8n deluxe nforce 4 and gforce 6600)09:02
topylivilko: ok, look at it. you have some lines beginning with ##'s and some without those hashes, right?09:02
lightbrighthow can I check my memory for any virus?09:02
yaaarfizzle: you still having problems getting it to burn?09:02
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fizzleyaaar, of course,09:02
HymnToLifedave_ > the package you need to install is libstdc++609:02
True_Chaosthis might be part of the problem, after booting to a liveCD my machine can no longer detect a HDD attached... even the bios doesnt find it. :(09:02
lsuactiafnerhad to make my own kernel with hoary on a gentoo system to get things booting the first time09:02
Apache_amHi09:02
vilkoyeah09:02
dave_HymToLife I have it installed09:02
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knoppixty for all the help I'm going to try and find a download site for kbuntu.  Any links for kubuntu download site?09:02
topylivilko: the # means that the line is just a comment and the software doesn't mind it. the lines actually read begin with "deb"09:03
yaaarfizzle: what did it tell you when you tried it with the device file?09:03
lsuactiafnerlightbright : there aint any virii for linux yet09:03
True_Chaosknoppix: linuxiso.org?09:03
stjepanSeveas: I've got 9660. Should my card work?09:03
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HymnToLifeit should work then :/ I installed it and I have that file09:03
fizzleyaaar, i tried burning the cd and it said it couldnt find a blank cd in my drive09:03
vilkooo09:03
yaaarfizzle: have you tried to do it on any of the gui progs?09:03
vilkoyeah 2 on the top09:03
graymanlightbright, you dont usually get viruses on linux, but you can get few of the commercial anti viruses09:03
fizzleits being gay but screw it09:03
knoppixty True_Chaos.09:03
lsuactiafnerlightbright : linux itself is basically immune09:03
yaaarfizzle: hm09:03
fizzleyaaar, nope09:03
vilkodeb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted09:03
topylivilko: so, you want to find lines in that file that mention universe and multiverse, and remove the #'s from the beginning of those lines09:03
HymnToLifefizzle > une k3b09:03
graymanor you can monitor it manually if you're advanced enough09:03
Apache_amI change the name of my machine and now i cant use conf programs at gnome, what's happend ????09:03
yaaarfizzle: it might be a good excercise.09:03
fizzleHymnToLife, yeah im getting it now09:03
Apache_amhow can I fix it09:03
Apache_am?09:03
yaaarfizzle: oh, one other thing....did you edit that hdparm.conf prior to your reboot?09:04
fizzleyes09:04
yaaark just making sure09:04
graymanand yeah. no free AV for linux09:04
lightbrightlsuactiafner: there ARE some virus on linux09:04
Kindredchange the name back? :P09:04
lightbrightgrayman:  there ARE some virus on linux09:04
fizzleyaaar, what im trying to achieve is installing a game. but i cant do this because of others problems and all i have is my backup isos, so im trying to burn them09:04
fizzleother* rather09:04
HappyFoolrick moen has a list of linux viruses on his page (on linuxmafia.org, i think)09:04
graymanlightbright, yes. i didnt say that there arent, but they're rare and pathetic in most cases09:05
vilkowell i should do a backup of this fle too right ?09:05
yaaarfizzle: so, it works fine at 4x right?09:05
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stjepanSeveas: wtf? the opensource driver my broke my hardware :(09:05
fizzleyaaar, right now its not working at all09:05
topylivilko: it's always a good idea :)09:05
vilko:D09:05
fizzleit usually works fine at 4x in slackware09:05
fizzlebut i havent gotten it to work in ubuntu yet09:05
yaaarfizzle: did you swap to a new blank disc, just in case it somehow got initialized a while back or something?09:05
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gnomefreakHappyFool, i dont see viruses09:06
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HymnToLifefizzle > which app are you using ?09:06
Apache_ami cant change the name back09:06
Seveasstjepan, that'd be weird09:06
fizzleHymnToLife, i was using command-line but im trying k3b now09:06
Apache_amwhen i use suo it return this message - sudo: unable to lookup 09 via gethostbyname()09:06
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HymnToLifeyeah, command line didn't work for me either09:06
Seveasstjepan, btw I'm kinda busy, if you want to be sure I reply, PM me09:06
fizzleHymnToLife, ic09:06
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fizzlek well im gonna try k3b and see what happens09:06
HappyFoolgnomefreak: linuxmafia.com, sorry. http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus09:07
vilkook did that09:07
fizzlehopefully it works so i can go smoke a joint and play some soldier of fortune lol09:07
adrian_how instal kde desktop for ubuntu 10.2?09:07
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vilkosaved09:07
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Prozzyhmmm another question from me.. now i did sudo on the dpkg while installing java and worked like a charm... though it doesnt seem to be enabled in firefox? i followed the guide in the starter guide.. what more to do ? :P09:07
dave_HynmTo Life it there and i still get the error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:07
topylivilko: exit the editor09:07
gnomefreakty happy09:07
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vilkodid09:07
HymnToLifeadrian_ > sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:07
yaaaranybody got any idea why ubuntu would fail to recognize dvd's if (and only if) they were in the drive on boot or the disc inserted just prior was a blank?09:07
HappyFoolgnomefreak: i think he's anti virus-checkers (i think he says they solve the wrong problem)09:07
SnurfDoes anyone know how to get to the screen with Windows XP to boot in Normal Mode, Safe Mode, MSDOS Prompt.. etc.09:07
mweApache_am: maybe your /etc/hosts is broken?09:07
lightbrightgrayman: whats a good virus checker?09:08
HymnToLifeand if you have Ubuntu 10.2, I wan the CDs NOW :p09:08
yaaarmore on that here: http://pastebin.com/48754209:08
fizzleSnurf, F809:08
adrian_in terminal run this comand?09:08
topylivilko: now, do "sudo apt-get update" and pray there's no error :)09:08
SnurfTy09:08
fizzleSnurf, hold f8 when windows starts09:08
fizzledamn winbloze users09:08
graymanlightbright, dunno. i dont use AV on linux. i consider it to be useless there09:08
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mweApache_am: btw does it run the command even though it complains about not being able to look up your hostname?09:08
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graymanbut i think that kaspersky had a linux version09:08
TengkSAcan someone here please help me09:08
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topyli!someone09:09
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>09:09
fizzleman my pinky is jammed -.-09:09
mwe!helpme09:09
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.09:09
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vilkobash: sudu: command not found09:09
lightbrightgrayman: but how do you make sure you are clean so if sending stuff to MS window users?09:09
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fizzlevilko, sudo*?09:09
yaaarvilko: that's sudo09:09
topylivilko: try sudo :)09:09
HymnToLifevilko > sudO09:09
mrtanookivilko: sudo LOL09:09
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graymanlightbright, windows viruses dont work on linux09:09
yaaarhehe09:09
vilkolol09:09
vilkohaahahaha09:09
fizzlevilko, ;)09:09
yaaarin surround sound09:09
ompaul!enter09:09
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!09:09
adrian_sudo apt -get run in terminal mode?09:10
TengkSAI have installed UBUNTU now and it loads straight in to UBUNTU and i cant access my harddrives with ubuntu that I could using windows, How do i set up a dual boot and be able to access files on my hard drives?09:10
HymnToLifegrayman > but Linux viruses DO work on Linux :)09:10
comunethere is a way to install dsc sources from synaptic?09:10
vilkodont see no error09:10
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vilkojust that it got many files09:10
HymnToLifeadrian_ > yes09:10
topylivilko: good09:10
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graymanHymnToLife, as i said. they're mostly pathetic since its a bit difficult to write a good virus for linux09:10
HymnToLifeor you can use Synaptic if you want to use the GUI09:10
mweHymnToLife: can you name one widely spread linux virus?09:10
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vilkook and now what do i do next :D09:10
topylivilko: now, go to system -> admin -> synaptic in the menu and search for mplayer09:10
fizzlebtw do i want to run sudo k3b to burn a cd or just run it as a normal user?09:10
vilkok09:10
TengkSACan anyone help me with what I had asked09:11
mwefizzle: run it as user09:11
HymnToLifefizzle > normal user will do09:11
fizzleok ty09:11
yaaarmwe; the slapper worm got around a bit09:11
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topylinot a virus09:11
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topyliand not for linux09:11
vilkohmz it dont find any09:11
david_m_eunder System > Admin > Networking > General (i think) > host name, i blanked it out and rebooted; this caused an error message when Gnome desktop loaded, and, worse, now Networking won't load anymore so that I can re-enter the host name... anybody know a way to get that host name back where it belongs? and... where does it belong? (a conf file somewhere?) ... thanks09:11
yaaartopyli: only in the most hair-splitting of senses.09:11
Some_Bodyteng, you need to partition your hard drive09:11
fizzleits taking forever to load k3b -.-09:12
mweyaaar: haven't heard of that. can't you coun't the number of known linux viruses like on two hands?09:12
ompaulTengkSA, open a terminal (applications - accessories - terminal) run this command >>sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst<<  alter the timeout to read 10 reboot and then choose windows09:12
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Some_Bodyyour able to do it during installation09:12
adrian_TengkSA grub is boot manager for linux and is self instaling when instal linux09:12
yaaarthe only difference is that it's in its own file, rather than hidden in some other one.09:12
Some_Body*you're09:12
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topylivilko: hrm. i wonder where it is if it's not in universe or multiverse09:12
adrian_HymnToLife thank you09:12
dave_Still trying to get help with an errorerror while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. HymnToLife said to install libstdc++6 but I already have it and still get the error09:12
topylianyone, where is mplayer?09:12
yaaarmwe; no there are more than that. but certainly the number is extremely small compared to the number for that other system.09:12
Ce_Dreakuhello, can anyone tell me if there is one program out there for ubuntu that can act like a dj program (like Virtual DJ for instance) or if not at least can anyone walk me through adding some crossfading or something while playing mp3s?09:12
ompaulyaaar, no, only in exacting terms, after all without limits we could all be running some other operating system09:12
graymanthere was a java virus once09:13
graymanso i guess it was crossplatform09:13
TengkSAit is asking me for a password09:13
HymnToLifedave_ > maybe googling the file could help09:13
vilkocuzz i tryed playin a xvid movie ive got on cd09:13
vilkoand it said it could not find codecs09:13
fizzlek3b just froze GR!09:13
topylivilko: it's in multiverse for me. hit the refresh button in synaptic09:13
HymnToLifevilko > get vlc09:13
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Ce_Dreakuhello, can anyone tell me if there is one program out there for ubuntu that can act like a dj program (like Virtual DJ for instance) or if not at least can anyone walk me through adding some crossfading or something while playing mp3s09:13
topylivilko: you don't need mplayer for that, just some codecs09:13
fizzleim beginning to get really mad :(09:13
dave_Ce_Dreaku: theres a great player called wxMusik09:14
vilkoow ok09:14
lightbrightfizzle: relax!  dont be so reactive to external forces to control your feelings09:14
yaaarompaul: yeah, but the difference between a "worm" and a "virus09:14
vilkowell is there like a great codec pac :D09:14
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yaaarompaul: don't have anything to do with that09:14
mweyaaar: yeah. also the policy of not logging on as a superuser all the time makes it much harder to write malicious software that spreads system wide09:14
vilkowith most codecs09:14
topylivilko: yes there is :)09:14
fizzlelightbright, its hard not to ive been trying to burn a fuking cd for 4 hours now09:14
TengkSAokay i have changed it.. like a regular text file. now how do i save it?09:14
topyli!restricted09:14
dave_not quite DJ turntables, but you can que up songs and croddfade09:14
ubotumethinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats09:14
vilkotell me pweez :D09:14
topylivilko ^09:14
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fangoriousanyone using bluetooth to transfer contacts from their phone to their PC (and/or the reverse)?09:14
fizzleor get my game to work but ubuntu hates me09:14
topylivilko: look what ubotu said09:14
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vilkook09:15
vilkovlc09:15
vilkowhere do i get that09:15
ompaulyaaar,  well actually getting a virus to run on GNU/Linux is a lot harder than getting a worm, and even that is an issue09:15
HymnToLifevilko > sudo apt-get install vlc09:15
vilkoow09:15
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lightbrightfizzle: user error09:15
rukkHey, quick question.. I'm using dapper drake, and when I upgraded to the latest version of wine (0.9.4) it broke a application I was using that worked perfectly in 0.9.3. Is there any way to "roll back" to the previous version of that package?09:15
yaaarompaul: i don't think i agree with that? you have a source for thinking that it's easier to get worms to run than virii?09:15
topylivilko: vlc is one possibility. or, you can install totem-xine and get the w32codecs package09:16
vilkoE: Kunde inte erhlla lset /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resursen tillflligt otillgnglig)09:16
vilkoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:16
HymnToLifetopyli > totem-gstreamer works fine too09:16
topylivilko: synaptic is locking it and you're trying to run apt-get in a terminal. use one or the other :)09:16
Ce_DreakuDave_ where can I find it?09:16
fangoriousvilko: use sudo, or make sure you don't have synaptic or the update-manager running09:16
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ompaulyaaar, I said on GNU/Linux, look at the impact of worms, vs the only virus I know which targeted RedHat09:16
vilkoow09:17
mikearthurhey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?hey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was use09:17
dave_Ce_Dreaku Hold on and I'll find you a How To09:17
mikearthurwoops, double paste, sorrt :(09:17
mikearthursorry09:17
TengkSAompaul adrian_ how do i edit this terminal file and how do i save it09:17
Ce_Dreakuthanks dave_ please drop it in a private window09:17
topylivilko: it's not as hard as it seems on the first day, really =)09:17
vilkoLser paketlistor... Frdig09:17
vilkoBygger beroendetrd... Frdig09:17
vilkoE: Kunde inte hitta paketet vlc09:17
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fangoriousanyone here using bluetooth?09:17
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ompaulTengkSA, I gave you those instructions I will now to it again09:18
ompaulTengkSA, open a terminal (applications - accessories - terminal)09:18
yaaarompaul: that follows the trend elsewhere thought, and in my opinion is only due to the unnecessary hassle of packaging your code within someone else's. if you can exploit the vulnerability without having to hide yourself in something else, then it's pointless to hide. so more worms exist. that isn't to say that *any* worm that works couldn't also be packaged into a virus that works.09:18
vilkoi know but this is like a whole new world09:18
vilkolol09:18
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TengkSAompaul I have accessed that and I can see everything09:18
dave_Ce_Dreaku: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90010&highlight=wxmusik09:18
JnxI've mounted a disk but I can only access it as a root user. Does anyone have suggestions to how I can solve this?09:18
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TengkSAand I typed the sado command ompaul I just dont know what to do next09:18
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ompaulyaaar, if you want to continue this conversation take it to #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help  channel :)09:19
yaaarompaul....i meant "that follows the trend elsewhere *though* ...elsewhere, like there are more worms in windows than virii09:19
HymnToLifevilko > you neet to enable universe/mutiverse09:19
Ce_Dreakuthank you very much Dave_09:19
Apache_amwhat does it mean (sudo: unable to lookup 09 via gethostbyname() ????????09:19
Jeff12088Anyone here tried dual booting xp and ubuntu?09:19
HymnToLife!repos09:19
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource09:19
topylivilko: clearly, your universe and multiverse repositories are not really enabled09:19
yaaarompaul: fair enough09:19
vilkoawwww09:19
ompaulTengkSA, look at the number at default make it longer :)09:19
vilkoi sux :(09:19
topyli=D09:19
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blue-frogApache_am, you fiddled with /etc/host and/or hostname09:19
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dave_Ce_Dreaku: as I say its not quite a DJ mixing setup but I think its a neat little player09:19
ompaulTengkSA, that is higher then follow the menu and exit and then reboot09:19
vilkohow did i get into that file again09:20
vilkothe source09:20
topylivilko: look at my sources.list: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list09:20
yaaarcan everybody please take just a minute and read this: http://pastebin.com/48754209:20
tbwOkay09:20
yaaarit's really, really weird09:20
mweyaaar: wouldn't you agree that one reason that makes it much easier for viruses to spread system wide in windoze is the fact that by default everyone is logged on with administrator priviledges?09:20
tbwso everything in kubuntu is HUGE09:20
navaroneJeff12088, I am dual booting win2k and ubuntu if that helps09:20
yaaarmwe; yeah i think that's accurate.09:20
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Ce_DreakuDave_ I just need crossfading actually not really dj09:20
topylivilko: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list any time. just remember to run apt-get update after that09:20
Jnxompaul, I've mounted an NTFS harddrive. It works, and I can access it when I log in as root. Is there a way I can access it with my regular user (non-root)?09:20
yaaarmwe; the debate ompaul and i were having was on a different, and really senselessly academic, topic.09:21
TengkSAompaul follow the menu?09:21
topylivilko: do not copy my sources.list as it is. it has some unstable, shaky stuff there09:21
vilkou hacker u09:21
gonffenjnx, in /ect/fstab set uid=user,gid=users09:21
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Jnxgonffen, thanks alot :)09:21
vilkook but do u got anything stable ?09:21
gonffen/dev/hda2               /mnt/C  ntfs    uid=gonffen,gid=users,ro        0 009:21
gonffenthat's an example09:21
blue-frogJnx, /etc/fstab change defaults with user,umask=022209:21
ompaulTengkSA, at the bottom of the screen how does it tell you to exit (that is following the menu :-))09:21
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TengkSAokay sorry this is my first time using this.. so i did ctrl + x09:22
Jnxblue-frog, thanks alot :)09:22
TengkSAand saved it to its previous name09:22
Jnxgonffen, thanks alot :)09:22
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ompaulJnx, I know nothing of NTFS dont use that o/s09:22
TengkSAand now how do i access previous files that i used with windows ompaul09:22
silent_screamhi all09:22
topylivilko: the lines marked BREEZY and BREEZY BACKPORTS should do for some time. the CYPHERFUNK repository is nice for getting the non-free w32codecs too09:22
ompaulTengkSA, what you asked was how to boot windows, if I understood your question, am I correct?09:22
silent_screamhow can i download the kernel-source-2.6.12 ?09:22
adrian_sudo apt -get ...... not work09:22
vilkoi forgott how i edited the source again09:23
TengkSAompaul and then i asked how do i access files through ubuntu on my other hard drive09:23
vilkowhat do i type ?09:23
ompaulTengkSA, one thing at a time09:23
topylivilko: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:23
TengkSAompaul so do i reboot first09:23
vilkoow ok09:23
blue-frogadrian_, watch how you write it09:24
vilkocan i just copy paste ur whole list ?09:24
tbwSilencer, : ftp.funet.fi ?09:24
ompaulTengkSA, first reboot and choose windows and you can get in there - this assumes that you did not blow away the windows installation - if you have not done so you can start that awful thing,  now for accessing those files from within Ubuntu I will now get the bot to send you a web page with instructions09:24
ompaul!tell TengkSA about ntfs09:24
adrian_a want instal KDE desktop for ubuntu genome is enoing09:24
ompaulJnx, that link might help you09:24
topylivilko: you can for now. let's add some comments to it later :)09:25
vilkook09:25
vilkohope it dont make my system finish !09:25
vilkocuzz i dont know finish only perkele09:25
vilko:D09:25
topylivilko: my system is still running :)09:25
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vilkook did that09:25
vilkoso now i save right and exit ?09:25
topylivilko: oh, it won't change your language :)09:26
topyliyes09:26
vilkook did that09:26
topylithen sudo apt-get update09:26
adrian_ider it to be useless there09:26
vilkogot damn now its doin many09:26
vilkogot 2-3 errors tho09:26
vilkoin the end09:26
topylivilko: yeah, it's overkill. we''ll have to clean up the sources.list later09:27
OfeOk, I got a problem when updating from hoary to breezy. My monitor won't work at the login-screen. :| it works fine before it's supposed to go to login screen, then just turns itself off. My mate told me something that I should fix xconf 11 or something like that. I'm currently in using 5.04 live-cd.09:27
vilkook09:27
david_m_eone more try... i deleted host name (System > Admin > Networking > General) and rebooted; this caused an error message when Gnome desktop loaded, and, worse, now Networking won't load anymore so that I can re-enter the host name... anybody know a way to get that host name back where it belongs? and... where does it belong? (a conf file somewhere?) ... thanks09:27
silent_screamhow can i download the kernel-source-2.6.12 ?09:27
topylivilko: now, do apt-cache search mplayer09:27
Jnxgonffen, am I suposed to fixx /etc/mtab to? Because in mtab: it says: /dev/hdb1 /mnt/C ntfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=***** 0 009:27
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blue-frogadrian_, sudo apt-get update      sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop09:27
gonffenJnx, umount it then remount09:27
gonffenthat should fix it09:27
vilkook did that09:27
blue-frogadrian_, sudo apt-get update      sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:28
topylivilko: any results?09:28
adrian_music & movies not work to ubuntu?09:28
mweis there an easy way to make irssi hilight all lines containing your own nick, not just when it starts with your own nick?09:28
gonffenafter you change /etc/fstab that is09:28
vilkoyeah many09:28
blue-frogadrian_, they do09:28
gonffenand just use mount /mount/point09:28
adrian_ai try but not work09:28
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vilkomplayer-586 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux09:28
vilkoi want that right ?09:28
Jnxgonffen,  thanks09:28
topylivilko: there are packages like mplayer-686, mplayer-k6 and such. they are optimized for different processors. make a choice :)09:28
gonffenyup09:28
blue-frogadrian_, have you ever tried to read a dvd movie in windows without installing the proper dvd player first?09:29
adrian_okhow to instal that player?09:29
vilkoive got 2,4 intel celeron crap on this one09:29
vilkowhat would be ur reccomendation :D09:29
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topylivilko: you want mplayer-68609:29
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falke`hey there09:29
blue-frogadrian_, the question mark on your taskbar will explain all if you take a little time to read the starter guide09:29
vilkook and how do i get that ?09:29
siglappysilent_scream: apt-get install linux-tree-2.6.1209:29
falke`i need help please09:29
topylivilko: and mplayer-fonts09:29
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graymanactually mplayer gives me some trouble with dvd09:29
graymanbut thats only me09:30
navaronefalke ask away09:30
falke`i downloaded the 64 bit 5.10 ubuntu09:30
adrian_blue-frog I try watch a dvd movie but not work09:30
topylivilko: if you're lucky you'll find the w32codecs package too09:30
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falke`and the installation hangs on 6 % by "libc6"09:30
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vilkoyeah ok but how do i dload that and install it ?09:30
vilkomplayer-686 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed09:30
graymanyou use synaptic in most cases09:31
ompaulfalke`, validate the image09:31
blue-frogadrian_, follow starter guide it will work09:31
graymanwhat he said09:31
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falke`ompaul, i dont understand what you mean by that, sry :)09:31
falke`and sry for my english09:31
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topylivilko: oh, the 686 is a dummy and you probably want the 586 package after all09:32
erik__hi09:32
vilkoahaaaa09:32
adrian_blue-frog do you used another version linux? mandriva for example?09:32
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blue-frogadrian_, ubuntu 5.1009:32
cello_rasphi.. i can't configure or make stuff on this new installation! what do I need?09:32
ompaulfalke`, I am looking for the page with the clue you need09:32
topylivilko: use synaptic or do "apt-get install mplayer-586 mplayer-mozilla mplayer-fonts w32codecs" and you're in business :)09:32
adrian_is to dificult for me09:32
blue-frogcello_rasp, build-essential and use sudo09:33
navaronecello install "build-essentials" package09:33
cello_raspthx chaps09:33
david_m_ei haven't seeen Seveas say anything for quite some time, yet his name is on the list at right, preceeded by a green dot... where is Seveas?09:33
navaronealthough,personally, compiling still eludes me...<s>09:33
topylidavid_m_e: talking bs on #ubuntu-offtopic09:33
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Seveasdavid_m_e, here :)09:33
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topyli:D09:33
falke`thanks ompaul09:33
david_m_eSev! there u are...09:34
NappatonttuCan I install Ubuntu 5.10 without erasing windows09:34
NappatonttuI would like to use them both09:34
Seveasdavid_m_e, very busy with a few repository issues09:34
david_m_eSeveas... need to recopy my ?... just a minute...09:34
JuhazNappatonttu, if you know what you're doing, yes.09:34
navaroneNappatonttu, yes you can...09:34
NappatonttuWell I'm not so sure what i am doing09:34
david_m_ei deleted host name (System > Admin > Networking > General) and rebooted; this caused an error message when Gnome desktop loaded, and, worse, now Networking won't load anymore so that I can re-enter the host name... anybody know a way to get that host name back where it belongs? and... where does it belong? (a conf file somewhere?) ... thanks09:34
vilkoE: Kunde inte ppna lsfilen /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 tkomst nekas)09:34
vilkoE: Kunde inte lsa listkatalogen09:34
adrian_Nappatonttu yes09:34
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NappatonttuI have never installed an operating system before09:34
topylivilko: you have synaptic open there?09:35
Seveasvilko, what's tkomst nekas in english?09:35
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NappatonttuI loved the LIVE CD, but my parents want to keep windows09:35
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TengkSAompaul thanks for everything but the thing u sent me from ubotu the site cannot be resolved by terminal .. 404 error09:35
vilkouhm09:35
david_m_eif someone less busy the Seveas wants to answer, i would appreciate that09:35
afiefHow do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?09:35
topylivilko: or perhaps you forgot to use sudo in front of the command. i didn't say09:35
cello_raspUbu > windows (except for the lack of the 3rd party software and hardware people only produce for windows :)09:35
vilkoowww09:35
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ompaulfalke`, you got a message from the bot09:35
vilkolol thats it09:35
SeveasNappatonttu, install a n XP-like theme and they won't notice the difference (except that their system is moer stable :))09:35
navaroneNappatonttu, there is a how to somewhere here...but best advice I can give to minimize grief is to install bootloader on floppy first...you can add to mbr later if you are comfortable. I still use floppy and have had no probs09:35
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blue-frogdavid_m_e, reboot in recovery mode edit /etc/hosts make sure it is all right, edit /etc/hostname make sure the name you have in /etc/hosts matches (for example  my-computer-name)09:36
mwevilko: prefix the command with LANGUAGE=C to get the errors en english09:36
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NappatonttuWell there is a problem. I dont have my Windows CD09:36
JnxCannot create link /etc/mtab~09:36
JnxPerhaps there is a stale lock file?09:36
Jnx <- What is my problem?09:36
cello_raspSeveas: i understand Kde has a better approach to spoofing windows than gnome09:36
afiefHow do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?09:36
NappatonttuI accidentaly broke it like 2 years ago09:36
TengkSAAre there any better MSN Type programs than this Gaim and where do i get it from09:36
Apache_amTroquei o nome da minha maquina e agora no funciona mais nenhum programa, alguem pode me ajudar ????09:36
ChousukeNappatonttu: Why do they want to keep windows?09:36
ompaulTengkSA, that page comes up for me09:36
david_m_eblue_frog thanks very much09:36
Jnxgonffen,  Cannot create link /etc/mtab~Perhaps there is a stale lock file? <- What's wrong?09:36
NappatonttuAcytually i think they would be ok with Ubuntu09:36
vilkoalrityo09:36
Seveascello_rasp, yeah, KDE is less stable ;))09:36
mweJnx: what are you trying to do?09:36
blue-frogApache_am, try #ubuntu-br09:36
NappatonttuBut my sisters want to play Sims :D09:36
rossiHey there, can anyone help me with my joypad problem? Everything works, except the d-pad09:37
Jnxmwe, mount -a09:37
NappatonttuAnd sometimes I like to play something too09:37
ChousukeNappatonttu: If they have no clue about computers, as long as your hardware works it'll be just the same09:37
vilkoLser paketlistor... Frdig09:37
vilkoBygger beroendetrd... Frdig09:37
vilkoE: Kunde inte hitta paketet mplayer-mozilla09:37
Jnxmwe, I'm trying to mount all devices in fstab09:37
vilkonot like im gonna view movies in mozilla09:37
NappatonttuChousuke: yeah, but games dont work on Ubuntu09:37
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mweJnx: you have to use sudo mount -a09:37
Apache_amthey dont answer ...09:37
ompaulTengkSA, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions    <-- that page works can you get to wiki.ubuntu.com?09:37
Apache_amcan you help me ?09:37
Seveasvilko, try: LC_ALL=C apt-get install ....09:37
Jnxmwe, offcourse. I know that09:37
afiefHow do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?09:37
afiefHow do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?09:37
Jnxmwe, that's not the problem.09:37
Seveasvilko, and enable multiverse09:37
topylivilko: oh, it's mozilla-mplayer. but if you don't need it, leave it09:37
ChousukeNappatonttu: What games do they play?09:37
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mweJnx: I see09:38
Nappatonttuafief: i once had a program for that. It was something like DVD santa09:38
navaroneNappatonttu, going windowless depends on what you use windows for. Most apps are avaialble in linux to replace windows apps...but some things are available on windows only. Depends on needs09:38
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vilkowait now09:38
TengkSAompaul can we talk in private please?09:38
topyliSeveas: he's using my evil sources.list now, it has everything. we'll clean it up later.09:38
vilkoi dont want that mozilla movie player dont matter09:38
cello_raspoh wine why must you disappoint me sp09:38
NappatonttuChousuke: Sims 2, BattleField 2, sometimes HL2 and all kinds of new games09:38
vilkoso what do i do next09:38
Seveastopyli, cool, then he's in good hands :)09:38
ChousukeNappatonttu: Hmm :/09:38
cello_raspyou can get HL2 for linux :)09:38
vilkoseems like its installed i think ?09:38
Jnxmwe, I'll try to reboot. Maybe the mtab hasn't noticed the devices or something. Be right back09:38
navaroneNappatonttu, two drives or one?09:38
ChousukeNappatonttu: Those do work with Cedega AFAIK, but Cedega isn't free.09:38
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samitheberberHow I get 3D work in wine? I have a bit prolem with that :S09:39
topylivilko: look at your menu. in apps -> sound&video, do you have mplayer?09:39
NappatonttuOne, that is the main problem09:39
rossiq4 runs under linux :D09:39
ompaulTengkSA, I don't see why we have to, people may learn something from our conversation, put this into your web browser: http://wiki.ubuntu.com then we will get it to come u09:39
navaroneNappatonttu, yeah...another drive would be ideal09:39
Nappatonttuone of the main problems09:39
vilkonope09:39
TengkSAompaul that site works but the things that they tell me to do in terminal do not work09:39
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vilko;(09:39
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topylivilko: grrr. try "gmplayer" in a terminal09:39
TengkSAcd09:39
TengkSAwget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab09:39
NappatonttuMaybe I'll just stick to windows or Live CD until I get another drive :/09:39
[Immo] Benjihow can I get acccess to the wine package?09:39
vilkobash: gmplayer: command not found09:40
[Immo] Benjifrom the repository09:40
beauHi everyone.  I have a problem with playing WMV9 files.  I've installed the essential codecs in the usr/lib/win32 directory but mplayer / totem stilll won't play them.  Totem says I don't have the codec installed, and mplayer will play the audio for 1 sec and then I get an error saying "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_video09:40
navaroneNappatonttu, don't rush...get all your ducks ina  row first...so to speak09:40
TengkSA*** Does anyone know of any TV Card software for UBUNTU?09:40
topylivilko: and the packages installed without error?09:40
Amaranthbeau: install totem-xine09:40
ompaulTengkSA, you can message me09:40
beauapt-get totem-xine?09:40
beauis that the command?09:40
Amaranthbeau: sudo apt-get install totem-xine09:40
[Immo] Benjiapt-get install09:41
Amaranthor use synaptic09:41
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SeveasTengkSA, mythtv09:41
NappatonttuIf i decide to get the new drive, will it be easy then09:41
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beaui'll try synaptic once.. thanks09:41
navaroneNappatonttu, how old is machine?09:41
vilkoseems like it09:41
vilkovilko@Vilko:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-586 mplayer-mozilla mplayer-fonts w32codecs09:41
vilkoLser paketlistor... Frdig09:41
vilkoBygger beroendetrd... Frdig09:41
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cmathesonTengkSA: mplayer, xawtv, etc.09:41
falke`does anyone of you know a german irc ubuntu channel ?09:41
topylivilko: strangest thing :\09:41
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Nappatonttunavarone: like 4 years09:41
cmathesonfalke`: #ubuntu-de?09:41
NappatonttuBut it has been updated quite a lot09:41
topylivilko: ok, try the whole path, like "/usr/bin/gmplayer"09:41
falke`thank you09:41
NappatonttuI think motherboard is the only one that is original09:42
NappatonttuAnd the screen09:42
vilkok09:42
vilkobash: /usr/bin/gmplayer: Filen eller katalogen finns inte09:42
vilkodont exist it says09:42
vilkomaybe it installed somwhere else ?09:42
navaroneNappatonttu, before you install new drive when you get it...you may want to  see if bios has upgrade. My machine is about 4 years old and I had to upgrade bios for large drive to be seen without direct drive overlay thingy09:42
topylivilko: no, packages always install their binaries there. the installation is not good09:43
dave_can anyone shed some light on this error message.09:43
dave_error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:43
vilkocrying !09:43
vilko;(09:43
topylivilko: don't cry yet :)09:43
TengkSAthank you cmatheson09:43
[Immo] Benjihow can I get acccess to the wine package from the repository?09:43
Trackilizerwhat's the lightest of all light weight desktop enviorments?09:43
vilkook rises up from the cry09:43
cmathesondave_: you don't have that version of the c++ libs, are you running some old binaries or something?09:43
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topylivilko: try apt-cache policy mplayer-58609:43
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TengkSADoes anyone know of a useful MSN program besides for Gaim09:43
NappatonttuMiranda IM09:43
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Nappatonttuthat's what i use on windows09:44
cmathesonTrackilizer: well... not running a desktop environment would be the lightest, as far as window-managers go i like openbox, windowmaker is nice too09:44
existancehow do i add onto the PATH variable?09:44
TrackilizerTengkSA, aMSN#09:44
dave_cmatheson: I am trying to run VNC09:44
vilkovilko@Vilko:~$ apt-cache policy mplayer-58609:44
vilkomplayer-586:09:44
vilko  Installerad: (ingen)09:44
vilko  Kandidat: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu909:44
vilko  Versionstabell:09:44
vilko     1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 009:44
cmathesonTengkSA: kopete09:44
vilko        500 http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages09:44
topylivilko: does it report an installed version and a candidate?09:44
topylioh, it doesn't09:44
Trackilizerthanks for that, i'll check it out09:44
cmathesonvilko: don't flood09:44
mwevilko: don't paste in here09:44
TengkSATrackilizer I am on the site but i do not know what file to download? does ubuntu run .gz files like windows does .exe?09:44
vilkook sorry09:44
dooglusshining_: I got that slocate bug eventually.  It was a buffer overflow - the buffer was declared as char ch[0]  (!)09:44
topylivilko: yeah, that was a bit long09:44
cmathesonTengkSA: no, .gz is like a .zip file09:44
michael__so, is their a problem with MSN and hotmail servers right now? - they seem to be the only ones i can't connect to right now09:45
TrackilizerTengkSA, use synaptic, should be in there09:45
topylivilko: so, try installing just mplayer first. "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586"09:45
cmathesonmichael__: i'm connected... but the hotmail servers always give me problems09:45
vilkook09:45
graymanTengkSA, erm gz is like zip. linux executable files dont have an extension09:45
beauVideo codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies09:45
beauthats what I get after I reinstalled totem-xine via synaptic09:45
vilkoahaaaa09:45
vilkonow it seems like its installing :)09:45
TengkSASynaptic is like WinZip right09:45
yaaarhas anybody had a chance to take a look at that dvd detection problem? short description here: http://pastebin.com/48754209:45
navaronebeau search for win32-codecs09:46
beaui've alreayd got them installed09:46
beauin the usr/lib/win32 folder...09:46
graymanTengkSA, no. synaptic is like ahuge source for applications to download09:46
topylivilko: ok, i don't understand why it didn't before. you should still do the same for at least w32codecs and mplayer-fonts09:46
vilkook09:46
TengkSAwww.synaptic.com ?09:46
graymanno09:46
graymanits already installed by default on your system09:46
graymanit comes with ubuntu09:46
TrackilizerTengkSA, it's already in ubuntu09:46
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vilkogot damn the dload is fast09:47
vilko:D09:47
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OfeTengkSA, system -> (something I don't remember in english) -> synaptic package manager09:47
navaroneSystem/Administration/Synaptic09:47
vilkohhihihihihh09:47
graymanwhat he said09:47
beaui really don't get this... i can watch pretty much any other movie but wmv9, and the codec is installed in the right directory, AND i've rebooted09:47
topylivilko: you'll get used to the goodness :)09:48
vilkodamn now i got mplayer runnin09:48
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vilkoit looks freakish good09:48
TengkSAAMSN is not in this Synaptic thing09:48
Coagis there any way to force alien to convert an i386 rmp to an i386 deb on an amd64 system?09:48
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topylivilko: ok, open a wicked format movie. an xvid or something microsoft09:48
cmatheson!tell TengkSA about universe09:48
mwebeau: I heard there is a problem with the lates wmv codec. probably some wmv files will play and some wont09:48
Coagrpm rather09:48
graymanit is :)09:49
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beaubah09:49
beauwell EVERYONE file on ebaumsworld.com doesn't work. just so everyone knows :)09:49
beauEVERY*09:49
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navaronebeau, maybe you need a plugin for firefox?09:50
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beauwell mplayer starts to play it in firefox though09:50
dave_OK I give up on that error can anyone tell me how I can remotely connect to my desktop via a web browser?09:50
beaulike i said, it'll play the sound for 1 second, and then return some error 1109:50
vilkoi did09:50
vilko:D watchin back to the future 209:50
vilko:D09:50
beautotem won't even try, saying the wmv9 codec isn't installed09:50
vilkoxvid09:50
topylivilko: success!09:50
topyli\o/09:50
vilkowieeieie09:50
vilkobut now how da heck do i get tv out working ?09:51
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tonyyarussodave_, TightVNC has a Java applet that will let you do that.09:51
navaronebeau, is error related to sound output source? maybe you need to fool around with that09:51
tonyyarussodave_, I've never tried using it, but I know it exists.09:51
blue-frogdave_, ubuntu wiki, look for freenx09:51
topylivilko: now, edit your sources.list again. comment with #'s every line below the breezy and breezy backports lines. they're  not very good to keep around permanently09:51
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ColonelPaniquedave_ : vnc... http://ip.of.your.host:5800, or http://ip.of.your.host:580109:51
beauError: Playback interupted by signal 11 in module: decode_video09:51
lightbrightwiki said: Photons are produced by atoms when a bound electron moves from one orbital to another orbital with less (more negative) energy."  But where did this photon EXIST before this?09:51
topylivilko: sometimes you need something, you may want to enable some of those lines temporarily09:51
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lightbrightsorry wrong channel09:52
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mwebeau: why are they using microsoft property instead of a standard anyway?09:52
beauebaumsworld.com?09:52
mweyeah09:52
vilkook09:52
beaugood question; I dunno, I've used the site for years to watch funny videos every week09:52
christian_Where can I download XMMS?09:52
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dave_OK Thanks will try with those pointers09:52
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tonyyarussolightbright, I'll say.  But I know the answer, if you want.09:53
christian_I can't find XMMS in Synaptic or with apt-get09:53
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vilkook09:53
blue-frogchristian_, enable universe09:53
cello_raspbeau it is a sign not to visit that craphole of theft and popup advertisments09:53
christian_blue-frog, thanks. I'll try09:53
carminatichristian_, have you enabled universe repositories?09:53
mwebeau: yeah. Well for what it's worth I heard that some wmv files wont play in linux atm09:53
ColonelPaniquedave_ : make sure vncserver is runnin on the host prior to trying to access from a browser of course. ;-)09:53
tonyyarussochristian_ and blue-frog: I have it in main.09:53
mohkohnCan anybody here tell me how to hide and unhide desktop icons in gnome 2.10?09:53
mwebeau: maybe they encode all the files with the incompatible version09:54
beaucello: and what site do you recommend that's organized and updated regularly?09:54
cello_raspebaumsworldsucks.com09:54
beaumwe: yeah i'm guessing so... what a bummer09:54
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dooglushttp://ebaumsworldsucks.com/09:54
stark-johanis it possible to fix some kind of selection so that i can double click sfv-files to run them with "cksfv -f" in a terminal window?09:54
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beaulol, and you say ebaumsworld is a theft?09:54
beaualright, i'm checking it out09:54
dooglusthey steal most of the stuff they host09:54
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vilkohow did i edit the sources list again i forgott after al this major exitment09:54
mwebeau: but hang on I'll try the site from here and see if it works for me09:54
deltronthat site is thievery lol09:54
blue-frogchristian_, indeed main.... sudo apt-get update and make sure main is enabled09:55
carminatiHi people, Are you having problems with Smart Package manager interface?09:55
TengkSAwhat is the equivalent of Notepad09:55
cello_raspgedit09:55
topylivilko: and then do "sudo apt-get update" again, and you're back to safe ubuntu userness :)09:55
navaronegedit09:55
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dooglusTengkSA: gedit09:55
ColonelPaniqueTengkSA : gedit09:55
cello_raspbam09:55
topylivilko: happy hacking!09:55
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vilkolol09:55
vilkohow did i edit the sources list again i forgott after al this major exitment09:55
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tonyyarussoTengkSA, Although some of the things I used to do in Notepad I've found other things are more powerful for, like Bluefish, Nvu, or Screem for HTML stuff.09:55
topylivilko: lol. "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"09:55
vilkogedit09:55
blue-frogvilko, use synaptic to do it09:55
vilkoow09:55
Comrade_Vladimiri want to type up a report for a class whats a good voice recognition softwre like dragon?09:56
topylivilko: make notes man :)09:56
mwebeau: I was able to watch a video on ebaumsworld.com09:56
vilkoim making notes :D09:56
navaroneComrade_Vladimir,  type or dictate? lol09:56
beauok, so why can't I>? :)09:56
Dreamglideris it posible to have four diffrent wallpapers on each desktop/workspace ?09:56
vilkox-chat has log right ?09:56
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Comrade_Vladimirnavarone ya know the software that u talk and it types09:56
christian_blue-frog, thanks. It's working :)09:56
vilkogonna look at this log :D09:56
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topylivilko: it does, if you have it enabled. you can turn logging on and off09:57
blue-frogvilko, use synaptic to do it, no notes to take...09:57
mwebeau: I don't know. you have the w32codecs installed? what player are you using?09:57
ChousukeComrade_Vladimir: Voice recognition is unreliable09:57
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Comrade_Vladimirso its alot easier09:57
beauby w32codecs, do you mean the codec pack: essential-2005041209:57
topylivilko: logs are at your home directory, in a hidden subdirectory called .xchat2 (note the dot)09:57
raymondcan some one tell me why wont my flash drive work09:57
ColonelPaniqueChousuke : works good for me.  i command my robots with it, and drive my car via voice recognition.09:58
mwe!w32codecs09:58
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install09:58
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beaui extracted all the codecs from that pack to /lib/usr/win32 per the instructions.. and it was supposed to contain a wmv9 codec09:58
mwebeau: I mean the ones from there09:58
beaui'll try that once09:58
beaumaybe that codec is bad09:58
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mwebeau: uninstall the old one first then09:58
beauok09:58
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aspuruIs there a way of having gcc 3.3 in Breezy and switching back and forth with 4.0 ?09:59
Comrade_Vladimira free one that is09:59
rem_Whats a good dvd ripper for nux ?09:59
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aspuruIe. using .debs, etc. rather than compiling it by hand?09:59
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aspuruSynaptic only contains g++ 3.3 not the rest of gcc09:59
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Some_Bodyhm, what is the mouse configuration program in breezy?09:59
coolgirlslttttttttttt09:59
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Some_Bodymouseconfig?09:59
topylirem_: none. you could try winki the ripper. there are pretty good command line tools, and an older graphical hack called dvdrip10:00
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mwerem_: I don't know any really good ones. I go to my win pc and use dvd schrink when I have to10:00
coolgirldas ist compliziert10:01
jendahey, how would I export a "ls -R" to a text file? It's way too long to copy paste from terminal...10:01
mwejenda: ls -R > foobar10:01
jendamwe: thanks!10:01
Stew_Lappydvdshrink runs great under wine10:01
tonyyarussoQuestion about aforementioned FreeNX: How is it that there is the same product available free and commercially?10:01
mweStew_Lappy: thats good news10:01
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Comrade_Vladimiri want to type up a report for a class whats a good voice recognition softwre like dragon?10:01
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TengkSAWhat program do you use to listen to mp3s10:01
ScootaDootaxmms10:02
zblachComrade_Vladimir, lololol10:02
Stew_Lappyxmms10:02
zblachxmms10:02
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CuriosCatHowdy all.10:02
mweStew_Lappy: then maybe I'll finally have decent dvd software on my linux machine10:02
Comrade_Vladimirzblach what10:02
vilkodamn this linux thang is like a wet dream10:02
Comrade_Vladimirhow do novuscript and dragon work10:02
tonyyarussoTengkSA, RhythmBox and VLC.10:02
Some_Bodyheh10:02
zblach'type a report'+'speech to text'10:02
TengkSA!mp310:02
Some_Bodywell put vilko...10:02
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:02
zblachVLC is for video10:02
TengkSA>>!mp3<<10:02
cheopsoink oink10:02
topylivilko: yeah, it kinda works :)10:03
Stew_Lappymwe there is a great howto somewhere on the forums for dvdshrink10:03
Comrade_Vladimiranyone got a good one for free?10:03
thegladiatorvlc player10:03
tonyyarussozblach, Can be.  Runs other stuff great too, in a small, simple window.10:03
vilkohihihihih now me is gonna setup intranet server in my little network with al my goodies 1,6 tb of hmm movies/pron :D10:03
zblachquick question. can I bind keyboard keys to launch programs?10:03
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battalionhey can anyone help me?10:03
beaudownload w32codecs right now..10:03
zblachtonyyarusso, true, but i find support for the matroska format a bit ...lacking10:03
tonyyarusso!tell battalion about ask10:04
Some_Body!mouse10:04
ubotumouse is, like, totally, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev10:04
mwebeau: yeah. now sudo dpkg -i it10:04
tonyyarussozblach, What's matroska?10:04
battalionyes tell me about it?10:04
TengkSAhow do you set Rhythmbox to be the default mp3 player?10:04
topyliTengkSA: i thought it was the default already10:04
Tobahey10:04
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zblachmatroska is a movie extension (.mkv) nice handling of subtitles and multiple language tracks10:04
Tobais there a way to get ubuntu to shut up about it when filesystems (usb) automout?10:04
battaliondammit is anyone gonna tell me whats going on or what??10:04
zblachwhatever it is, i have a couple gig of it10:04
zblachbattalion, whats your problem?\10:05
Tobaasking to import photos and popping up this file manager window is getting old10:05
tonyyarussozblach, Oh.  Never heard of it.10:05
battalionhow do i install things on ubuntu?10:05
TengkSAtopyli its not, this movie thing is10:05
Tobaoh10:05
Tobasure10:05
vilkorite so how about this amsn is it also available in synaptic ?10:05
Tobaone sec battalion10:05
ompaul!tell battalion about synaptic10:05
ompaul!tell battalion about repos10:05
Tobathx ompaul10:05
battalionlike i know i'm supposed todownload the linux versions of programs but which one>? the rpm pr tar.gz?10:05
ompaulbattalion, read the stuff from ubotu10:05
zblach!tell battalion about apt-get10:05
tonyyarussobattalion, Depends on what it is.  apt/synaptic is best, for anything available in repos.  dpkg -i works for downloaded standalone .deb.10:06
Some_Body...ndiswrapper?10:06
TengkSAive downloaded 2 programs and they are both .gz how do i install them10:06
ompaulToba, np :)10:06
Tobahrm10:06
mwealso point him to the ubuntu starter guide10:06
Tobahow would you convert an rpm to deb?10:06
Some_Bodytoo lazy to scroll up10:06
tonyyarussobattalion, deb if available.10:06
mweforgot the url10:06
topyliTengkSA: if you're using gnome, right click a mp3 file and set rhythmbox as default10:06
Tobathere was a program that did that I thought10:06
zblachanyways, old keyboard died and i've a whole bunch of keys on my new one with no function10:06
ompaulTengkSA, you don't you get the versions for ubuntu10:06
mweToba: alien10:06
tonyyarussobattalion, rpm can be done with alien, though that's not necessarily your best shot.10:06
mweToba: be careful though10:06
battalioni can find the starter guide on google but at least tell me, do i download .rpm or .tar.gz??10:06
battalionoooo so i downaload tar.gz10:06
battalion?10:06
zblachyes10:06
mweToba: the pacages can cause breakage10:06
battalionk10:07
TobaI guess they could10:07
tonyyarussobattalion, .tar.gz will do you fine.10:07
topyliToba: use alien as the last resort. it can make weird debs10:07
Tobasince they would be from a different repo10:07
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Tobaand want different and strange dependencies10:07
battalioni read something in the start guide abot the terminal and apt-sumthing10:07
zblachbut i've been having strangeness with firefox. downloads are saved as .tar.gz.tar10:07
mweToba: and for a different distribution10:07
battalionis that along the right track?10:07
Tobamwe: oh, and that too :)10:07
topylizblach: sometimes i get that too10:07
tonyyarussobattalion and TengkSA: Decompress the .tar.gz, open a terminal window, and go to the folder that created.10:07
mweToba: however if it breaks just uninstall it10:07
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ompaulToba, correction the word different and strange could be replaced with a single one - broken10:07
Tobameh10:07
vilkoow crappers back too n00b mode where is the got damn terminal again10:07
zblachtopyli, i get it all the time10:08
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Some_Bodyeh, if somebody could help me...in breezy, the only thing my mouse can do is left and right click10:08
mweToba: just make sure you don't --force install it10:08
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tonyyarussobattalion and TengkSA: Look for an executable file, often named things like 'configure' or 'install'.10:08
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TengkSAokay Im confused it wont let me listen to any of my songs giving me an error saying the file is no audio stream10:08
TobaSome_Body: settings -> preferences -> mouse10:08
Some_Bodyand it works on my regular computer...do I need to install a driver for my mouse?10:08
HymnToLife!mp310:08
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:08
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Some_Bodyoh, thanks10:08
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Toba*system10:08
Tobanot settings10:08
battaliontony and then wat???10:08
plagiatsSome_Body, did you try using a live-cd to see if your mouse is recognized ?10:08
topyliSome_Body: can you move the pointer or just click?10:08
tonyyarussobattalion and TengkSA: Then, installing from the source is sudo ./configure && make && make install.10:08
Some_Bodyjust click10:08
ThePyromaniachey, if i have ubuntu one one HDD and want to move it to a HDD that already has Windows installed, how can i do this?10:08
ThePyromaniacon*10:08
Tobaok nvm what I gave you is no good Some_Body10:09
battalionkk10:09
plagiatsSome_Body, I mean with a Mandrakemove or Kaella10:09
battalioni'll try10:09
battalionand i have one more qu10:09
KarlosIIubuntu smb help requested: when i type smb:/// in the location bar I get a authentication required dialog so I entere my password and it fails, what am I doing wrong?10:09
beaubeau@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb10:09
beauPassword:10:09
beaudpkg: status database area is locked by another process10:09
beaubeau@ubuntu:~/Desktop$10:09
ThePyromaniaci have to clean install or can i use some partition program to do it10:09
battalioncan i save things during the live version so there there when i restart live/10:09
psusiThePyromaniac, could you be more specific?  do you want to keep windows and share the drive?  or screw windows and you just want to copy your ubuntu install from your old drive to a new one?10:09
battalion?10:09
ompaulbeau, do not paste in here - use a pastebin10:09
KarlosIIbeau apt is running in bg10:09
beauah10:09
battalionor do i hav to partition my hard drvie?10:09
ScootaDootaTenkSA: what you using to play you mp3s10:09
beaupastebin?10:09
mwebeau: close synaptics10:10
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KarlosIIbeau re topic10:10
ompaul!pastebin10:10
topyliThePyromaniac: you can partition and format the new hard drive and copy your installation there. but then you'll have to take care that it will boot as well :)10:10
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:10
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HymnToLifeThePyromaniac > you mean you want to copy tour Ubuntu partition on another HD ?10:10
beauoh, cool... sorry bout that10:10
KarlosIIokay now bak to my question for yas10:10
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battalionr u people running live or install?10:10
KarlosIIinstall10:10
david_m_eblue_frog u still there (i've lost my user list)10:10
Cpt_Vimesinstall10:10
tebatinstall here.10:10
beauinstall10:10
Stew_Lappyinstall10:10
plagiatsinstall too10:10
mwerofl10:10
psusibattalion, install of course... live is only for testing10:10
battalionif i had a second hard drive could i install ubuntu on it and them boott from either one?10:10
cfh_devinstall10:10
mweinstall10:10
HymnToLifebattalion > no one in his right mind is running the Live CD on a daily basis10:10
mweinstall10:11
KarlosIIMay I repeat my question ? :P10:11
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cfh_devbattalion: yep10:11
HymnToLifebattalion > of course10:11
psusibattalion, you can do that with one hard drive as well10:11
bluefoxicyholy crap10:11
bluefoxicynessus is in main now10:11
topylioh my. no we'll get 600 "installs" here10:11
Cpt_Vimesbattalion, I run dualboot on the same HD....works beautifully10:11
ThePyromaniaclong story short, i have a big HDD for media only, but it has this install of linux. i have another smaller HDD with windows on. i want the smaller one to contain only OS's and the one i currently have linux on to be media only10:11
plagiatspsusi, live cd is also useful for working on a friend's computer or for rescuing his datas ;)10:11
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TengkSAokay thanks10:11
tonyyarussobattalion, I have yet to figure out a way to do that, although it would be super-slick.  See my suggested spec for Dapper+1 at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-apt-install-to-usbflash, I think that's what you want too.10:11
mwetopyli: yeah :)10:11
battalionfuck i wanna install but i love my games, i'm gonna hav to go hard drive hunting10:11
pjd1what's the general feeling about the use of webmin to admin one's 5.10 installation of Ubuntu?10:11
KarlosIIubuntu smb help requested: when i type smb:/// in the location bar I get a authentication required dialog so I entere my password and it fails, what am I doing wrong?10:11
david_m_eHymnToLife actually, i have been considering how to use the LiveCD every time i boot... but haven't had time yet to figure out the mods i want10:11
Stew_Lappydual booting is so easy with umbuntu10:11
ThePyromaniacso somehow i must resize the windows NTFS partition, move ubuntu and remove this one10:11
mweKarlosII: don't repeat10:11
KarlosIIbah10:11
beaudamn, same problem.. i don't get it... it just plays the audio for a second, and then stops... which would tell me the codec is installed ok10:11
TengkSAdo you people use packet managers10:12
Kyle_hey, can anyone give me a pointer, ubuntu doesn't want to boot properly for me10:12
mweKarlosII: nobody knows or has time to answer10:12
Cpt_Vimesbattalion, you don't really need 2 HDDs for that10:12
ColonelPaniquebattalion : keep the language on a professional level in here, please.10:12
tonyyarussobattalion, If your drive isn't full, the Ubuntu installer supports NTFS resize now.10:12
battalionsry10:12
Cpt_Vimesunless you're low on space or something10:12
HymnToLifedavid_m_e > it's stupid imo (no offence)10:12
KarlosIImwe: dun diss me I asked if I could repeat and noone said i couldn't so I did :)10:12
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psusiThePyromaniac, the easiest way is to just reinstall ubuntu on the smaller drive... it should automatically shrink the windows partition and use the free space, then blow away the ubuntu partition on the big drive10:12
battalionntfs?10:12
ScootaDootawhat happens Kyle10:12
tebatbattalion, you can install quite a few games on linux.10:12
HymnToLifeLive CD is too slow10:12
plagiatsbattalion, always backup your datas10:12
KarlosIImwe with your attitude I dun have the time to help u either yet I take the time :P10:12
battalioni heard abouit a linux steam???10:12
bluefoxicylivecd is ok if you have a gig of ram10:12
battalionanyone know about it?10:12
ThePyromaniacpsusi ok, if it doesnt work im gonna come on via live cd and kick your ass :p10:12
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bluefoxicybattalion:  cedega10:13
cfh_devFor wireless ethernet, is it better to use a usb or pci adapter?10:13
beaubattalion: probably with cedega or wine10:13
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mweKarlosII: however, don't you need something else like smb://HOST10:13
KarlosIIcfh pci imho10:13
david_m_e HymnToLife your name suggests a religious context, yet you seem awfully quick to judge10:13
ThePyromaniacoh btw, last time i tried this i had windows walking all over the boot options10:13
plagiatsbattalion, ntfs ~ way windows stores your files10:13
tonyyarussobattalion, Windows 2000/XP filesystem.  Assuming that might be what a lot of games would be on.10:13
HymnToLifeThePyromaniac > When you install Ubuntu, the partitioner has a "copy data from another partition" option10:13
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topyliKarlosII: your question seems to be far up, not everybody will remember it now. ask away10:13
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ThePyromaniachymntolife ahh yes i remember, thanks man10:13
cfh_devKarlosII: I'm beginning to think the same.  I've gone through 3 usb adapters trying to get them to work right.10:13
ThePyromaniac*logs*10:13
KarlosIImwe do I? maybe thats the help I need10:13
Friar_tuckHi... Can I "Switch User" in gnome without having to logout?10:13
pjd1what's the general feeling about the use of webmin to admin one's 5.10 installation of Ubuntu?10:13
plagiatsyes10:14
tonyyarussoFriar_tuck, Applications > System > New Login.10:14
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battalionthanks everyone youve been a help10:14
HymnToLifedavid_m_e > same for you :p I am not religious at all10:14
EdLinTengkSA, apt-get, aptitude, dpkg for those few times you need individual debs.10:14
KarlosIItopyli: ehehe I've already repeated it twice :)10:14
Kyle_Scoota, the boot process just stops at the PCI hotplugging load10:14
psusitonyyarusso, why is it so difficult to install to a usb drive?10:14
tonyyarussoFriar_tuck, Ctrl-Alt-F(7/8) will switch between them.10:14
topyliKarlosII: yeah, smb://host/share or something10:14
cfh_devpjd1: Webmin is cool but I've seen a lot of bad traffic coming across routers trying to get into webmin so be careful of the access you allow your webmin10:14
tonyyarussoFriar_tuck, Assuming your console switching isn't broken like mine.10:14
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bobbydhi10:14
cfh_devGrussdich10:15
tonyyarussopsusi, I have no idea.  I've been told other distros' live CDs can do it, but not this one.10:15
ColonelPaniquepjd1 : i don't know about the "general feeling" but i know about the "colonel feeling" ;-)10:15
KarlosIItopyli: umm why won't it show me a list of host on the network?10:15
mweKarlosII: have you tried smb://domain\username:password@server\sharename10:15
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ScootaDootaKyle: What hardware are you running?10:15
pjd1is there a samba config program in ubuntu?10:15
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butcherbirdgood... god...cant get sshfs to work as normal user10:15
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mweKarlosII: if that doesn't work something is broken10:15
Kyle_what in particular?  it's an ASUS z63a laptop10:15
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topyliKarlosII: dunno, when i go to places -> network servers, i get all servers on the network visible. (which sucks on a large university network btw)10:16
bobbydis it possible to to connect two ad-hoc wireless networks using a linux box?10:16
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ScootaDootaKyle...its most likely something to do with your PCMCIA...have you got any of these cards in the laptop?10:16
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Kyle_nope...10:16
bshumatepjd1: SWAT is available to configure Samba from the Universe packages10:17
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Kyle_I was wondering if it was because of the wireless mouse?10:17
Kyle_dongle is in a USB port10:17
spikehwhere are the fonts stored on Ubuntu?10:17
tonyyarussobobbyd, Yes.  I was able to ping back and forth between two laptops that way, but ended up using a router before going further than that.  (There were already two in the room, so why not?)10:17
Seveasraitchev, turn of that stupid away annonce script10:17
ScootaDootacan you diable the PMCIA controller in you bios to see if that enables it to boot?10:17
Seveasnext time is a ban10:17
mwebshumate: but nano should already be present on the system. it's a great tool for configurign smb.conf10:17
raitchevraitchev im sorry10:18
raitchevraitchev ill remove that right now10:18
raitchevraitchev sorry again10:18
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bobbydtonyyarusso, I want to tunnel between two ad-hoc networks across the internet10:18
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ScootaDootanano...boooooooooo.............vi yaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy10:18
Kyle_ok, I'll give that a try, thanks10:18
bshumatemwe: the Samba Web Administration Tool is good for new folks who may frequently screw up conf files ;-)10:18
KarlosIItopyli: the fiel manager is not showing a option for places -> network servers10:18
tonyyarussobobbyd, What does that even mean?10:18
peter__hi... Where are themes stored for all users?10:18
mwebshumate: yeah I guess so. I was kidding10:18
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bshumatemwe: and the dude asked for a tool, not an editor :-)10:19
peter__(in gnome)10:19
jendamwe: ls is amazing :) It let's me email 80 pages of my Jukebox' contents to my music teacher in like 2 seconds...10:19
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topyliKarlosII: are you using gnome or kde? the places menu on the gnome panel is what i mean10:19
bobbydtonyyarusso, I want to be able to have a sony PSP in my living room, connected to my wireless AP, and then connect to someone else in their living room, but across the internet, fooling the PSPs into thinking they're in the same room.10:19
KarlosIIgnome10:19
mwejenda: what's that?10:19
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KarlosIIah10:19
ColonelPaniquebobbyd : what do Sony PSPs have to do with Ubuntu though?10:20
spikehwhere are the fonts stored on Ubuntu?10:20
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B1zzmaybe he using ubuntu :-p10:20
KarlosIItopyli: it's asking for a password10:20
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tonyyarussospikeh, Try locate fonts.10:20
bobbydColonelPanique, nothing, but I was hoping to use Ubuntu to make the tunnel between the two networks10:20
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topyliKarlosII: good :)10:20
peter__Hi one of the default gnome themes keep crashing my computer. Can someone please tell me where they are kept so I can delete it?10:20
KarlosIIusername/domain/password10:20
KarlosIIbut I'm not sure what password it's asking for10:20
plagiatsspikeh, open nautilus, press CTRL+L, type "fonts://", you're done.10:21
tonyyarussobobbyd, I've got nothing for you.10:21
spikehthanks plagiats10:21
topyliKarlosII: whatever password you have on the server you're connecting to10:21
mwebshumate: I think users should learn not to get desperate if they have to look at a text file though10:21
ScootaDootathemes /usr/share/thems10:21
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captain_petzHELP! kde isn't working. I'm in x and it's the only working gui10:21
plagiatsspikeh, you're welcome.10:21
jendamwe: neh, I asked just a while ago how to export the "ls" commands output - which now let's me send 80 pages of directory listings to my music teacher, from which he can then choose what we'll play in jazz seminar :) - just saying the feature you shouwed me is awesome...10:21
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christian_Can anyone help me with MySQL?10:21
apokryphoscaptain_petz: join #kubuntu10:21
zorlonYo10:21
bobbydcaplink811_log, #kubuntu10:22
KarlosIItopyli: ummm server?10:22
bshumatemwe: editing the configuration files is my preferred method as well, but the fellow specifically requested a tool for configuring Samba, so I pointed out one to him...what's the issue man?10:22
plagiatscaptain_petz, try mv .kde .kde-back10:22
mwejenda: ah ok :)10:22
ScootaDootaI agree with mwe, to get a good grasp of Samba you need to understand the config file...SWAT glosses it over10:22
christian_Can anyone help me with MySQL?10:22
bobbydcaptain_petz, #kubuntu even :)10:22
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topyliKarlosII: to your machine, the other box (with the share) is the server10:22
KarlosIItopyli: I have a windows box and linux box connected to a router that I'm trying o see the windwos box shares and vice versa10:22
mwebshumate: there is no issue. just thoughts10:22
bshumatemew: coolio!10:22
mwebshumate: what you did was fine. I was kidding10:22
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bshumateerr, mwe even...coolio++ !10:23
christian_KarlosII, use Samba. sudo apt-get samba10:23
topyliswat does screw up the file pretty badly though10:23
Dreamglideris there a gui for nmap ?10:23
B1zzwheres that guy with the psp question10:23
christian_KarlosII, when you've installed samba use smb://comutername10:23
topyliDreamglider: nmapfe10:23
bobbydB1zz, here10:23
JoeBloeWhen running the 686-smp kernel and I load gnome the computer reboots when gnome is finishing loading...any suggestions?10:23
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tonyyarussoKarlosII, I was able to view Linux shares on Windows with samba; haven't tried the other direction yet.10:24
topyliScootaDoota: webmin leaves the file in a readable condition. i don't know why swat has to mess it up so completely10:24
christian_mwe, can you help me regarding problems with MySQL?10:24
KarlosIIk10:24
battalionhi everyone i'm back, i downloading the tar.gz,decompressed it and opened a terminal, now i need to know how to gert the the dirrectory in the terminal10:24
KarlosIIcehcking it out right now10:24
mwechristian_: maybe if you ask a more specific question10:24
pjd1is there an inetd management tool?10:24
plagiatstonyyarusso, KarlosII, see http://fs-driver.org10:24
christian_mwe, I've installed mysql-server on my computer. And I can't access it. It tells me I don't have the rights10:25
plagiatschristian_, #mysql10:25
ColonelPaniquepjd1 : you and your management tools! just edit /etc/inetd.conf already ;-P10:25
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christian_plagiats, thanks10:25
soulkeepmoin moin! Muss leider meine Windowspartition wieder beleben (spielchen und ein paar appl.) Grub hat noch meine Alte drinne (win2k)... aber ich schtze wenn ich winxp neuinstalliere macht es mir Grub kapput, oder? wie kann ich das am besten verhindern?10:25
topyliColonelPanique: :D10:25
soulkeepoh sorry ... not DE here ;)10:26
bshumatetell soulkeep bout de10:26
topylipjd1: if you want to click on server stuff, install webmin10:26
mweplagiats: that looks cool. too bad I'm using reiserfs10:26
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plagiatsmwe, similar stuff exists for reiserfs10:26
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plagiatsmwe, i'm looking for links to give you10:27
edgarin_how to play in ubuntu?? ganes10:27
pjd1topyli: i have installed webmin.  I can't get my config of samba to work properly. my personal account continues to be disabled automatically.10:27
edgarin_games10:27
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ScootaDootatopyli:  I gave up on SWAT...its okay for very simple configs, but once you start to get an advanced config SWAT is no use10:27
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Jrex-LinuxPlease help I get this when running system admin programs, like user config:10:27
Jrex-LinuxJrex-Linux every single system admin program I try to open says this:10:27
Jrex-LinuxJrex-Linux Failed to run users-admin as user root:10:27
Jrex-LinuxJrex-Linux  Child terminated with 1 status10:27
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tonyyarussoScootaDoota, My SWAT was broken, so I had to do the config file to begin with.10:27
plagiatsmwe, http://yareg.akucom.de/index.html#SCREENSHOT<-- here you go10:28
ompaulJrex-Linux, DO NOT PASTE HERE thanks10:28
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Jrex-Linuxsorry10:28
butcherbirdgrr chmod'd fusermount modprobe'd fuse im a member of fuse group still cant sshfs as normal user. anyone have an idea?10:28
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ompaul!tell Jrex-Linux about pastebin10:28
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CodenameKTjrex-linux sudo ___10:28
battalionhow do i cd to a directory in terminal?10:28
Jrex-LinuxI loged into sudo10:28
asterickbatta: I really hope that's aj oke.10:28
tebattype cd /blah/blah10:28
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Jrex-Linuxubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo10:29
Jrex-Linuxsudo: must be setuid root10:29
battalionnaw i wish it was too10:29
ScootaDootaediting the smb.conf  file is the way to go...its not very complicated10:29
tebat*replace whatever directory you want instead of blah/blah10:29
mweplagiats: looks cool10:29
Jrex-Linuxeek nm, sorry again10:29
battalioni'm not used to linux10:29
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tebatbattalion: cd name-of-directory10:29
tonyyarussoplagiats, While that looks very interesting, now that I think about it I'm a bit confused.  I didn't need to do anything like that to make the Windows computer see my Linux shares.  Why is that?10:29
tebatex. 'cd /home/jimmy/stuff' (without the ' of course)10:30
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asterickman, doing a base install from a live CD is slloooow.10:30
mwetonyyarusso: because there smb shares10:30
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plagiatstonyyarusso, I supposed once you installed GNU/Linux on a FAT32 partition10:30
ompaulJrex-Linux, sudo command does the trick10:30
mwetonyyarusso: windows thinks it's another windows machine10:30
ompaul!tell Jrex-Linux about sudo10:30
Kyle_hrm...10:30
topylibattalion: if you use gnome and gnome-terminal, you can drag&drop files and directories into the command line from the file manager too10:30
tonyyarussomwe: Ah.  So this driver he linked to would be for non-smb folders.10:30
battalionk i'll try10:30
tonyyarussoplagiats, Nope, ext3.  See mwe's.10:30
mwetonyyarusso: yeah that would show anything on the same computer using ext10:31
Kyle_anyone know how to disable the hotplugging module from GRUB before boot?10:31
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mweKyle_: you mean disable hotplug altogether? why would you wanna do that?10:32
KarlosIItopyli: ummm10:32
plagiatsKyle_, sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug10:32
battalionwhere gnome terminl? i only see root terminal and terminal?10:32
KarlosIIplagiats: thats for reading on the same hdd not on diff computer10:32
tebatbattalion: i'm pretty sure it's just terminal10:32
nekostarhow can i kill and restart my panels w/o signing out of my acct?10:32
battalionoo kk lol10:32
plagiatsKarlosII, you are right.10:32
tonyyarussobattalion, gnome-terminal is just called terminal in the Application menu.10:33
battalionk10:33
ColonelPaniquenekostar : sudo killall -HUP gnome-panel10:33
topyliKarlosII: i really don't have any shares on windows computers and probably never will. so i don't know how windows networking really works. i just know how to connect them to unix boxen as clients :)10:33
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nekostarthanx ColonelPanique10:33
battalionso i'm in the directory now wat, do i run something?10:33
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nekostarwhat does the -HUP mean?10:34
tebatbattalion: what are you trying to do?10:34
Kyle_mwe, the boot process totally stalls out10:34
KarlosIIlol10:34
ColonelPaniquenekostar : Hangup...it's a signal to the application which tells it to restart and re-read configuration files, etc...10:34
Kyle_I'm not sure what actually happens10:34
mwenekostar: it's the signal, hangup. read man kill10:34
Jrex-LinuxI'm sorry, I just don't get it, why wont it let me run system settings programs, like "Login Screen Setup"?10:34
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mweKyle_: but it hangs at hotplug?10:35
nekostarthanx10:35
plagiatsbattalion, just in case you need to run an application quickly without looking for it in the menus (like a terminal) : You can launch applications using alt+f2 then entering name of the app. That said you can use xterm instead of gnome-terminal : it's much faster.10:35
Kyle_mwe, yeah10:35
butcherbirdJrex-Linux: should be prompting for a password yes?10:35
fizzlehey how do i record sshit in ubuntu off my microphone10:35
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Kyle_it was suggested that I disable PCMCIA, but there is no option in the BIOS10:35
Tobahow can I disable the sshd from starting on boot?10:35
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Tobait looks like upgrading to 5.10 turned it on10:35
yaaaranybody have expertise on the cd autoloading feature in gnome? i'm having the weirdest stuff happen10:35
TobaI don't want it10:35
yaaarvideo dvd's autoload properly if the last cd in the drive was a data cd or a properly-autoloaded dvd. but if the last cd in the drive was a blank cdr, they get autoloaded as a blank disc.10:35
yaaarand if one loads blank because of that, swapping it with another dvd produces the same results. also see this problem if i boot with a dvd in the drive10:35
bshumateToba: System > Administration > Services10:36
yaaarswapping for a data cd and back to the dvd fixes it...until the next time i put a blank cd in the drive.10:36
Tobathanks bshumate10:36
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mweKyle_: in that case it might not be a bad idea to diable it. can you boot in single user mode (rescue)10:36
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Jrex-Linuxbutcherbird, it is not prompting for a password10:36
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battalioni'm trying to install gaim, im up to the part where i just typed "./configure" and some stuff showed up10:36
mweKyle_: however I'd enable again when I found the problem10:36
fizzlewhich program do i use to capture sound from my sound card10:36
Seveasbattalion, apt-get install gaim10:36
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butcherbirdJrex-Linux: if u type 'sudo gdmsetup &' does it come up?10:36
Seveasdon't compile it manually10:37
Kyle_mwe, well, that's the plan10:37
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Jrex-Linux"Failed to run gdmsetup as user root:10:37
Jrex-Linux Child terminated with 1 status"10:37
mwebattalion: sudo apt-get install gaim works10:37
battalionkk10:37
Jrex-Linuxubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo gdmsetup &10:37
Jrex-Linuxsudo: must be setuid root10:37
Jrex-Linux[1]  2073510:37
Jrex-Linux[1]    Exit 1                  sudo gdmsetup10:37
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fizzlewhich program do i use to capture sound from my sound card10:37
Kyle_mwe, what should I use to disable it if I do get into rescue mode?10:37
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Kyle_which command?10:38
butcherbirdJrex-Linux: is this the original account you created at install or a new one?10:38
ColonelPaniqueregul8!10:38
fizzlewhich program do i use to capture sound from my sound card10:38
cdownieI'm having trouble getting ubuntu to use a second (unformatted) SATA hd in my computer. can someone pm me and offer assistance? thanks.10:38
CodenameKTwho here prefers ubuntu over slackware now?10:38
Marc_DAnyone here know anything about Steam?  I cant install it via cedega...10:38
SeveasJrex-Linux, your sudo is broken.10:38
CodenameKTwell for a desktop10:38
mweKyle_: boot from a live cd I guess10:38
Seveasand NEVER paste in here10:38
TengkSAokay can someone here please help me install AMSN i got no idea how to install anything on UBUNTU unless im using synaptics10:38
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CodenameKTwhat did u use before ubuntu debian?10:39
SeveasTengkSA, you can install amsn via synaptic10:39
Kyle_mwe, thanks, I'll give this a shot.10:39
battalioni don't kn if it worked or what this is wat it said after "sudo apt-get install gaim" apt-get install gaimReading package lists... Done10:39
battalionBuilding dependency tree... Done10:39
battaliongaim is already the newest version.10:39
battalion0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:39
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Marc_Dffs, what is a win32 sharing violation?10:39
mweKyle_: then mount the partition and chmod -x /etc/init.d/hotplug to disable it temporarely10:39
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SeveasMarc_D, something completely irrelevant to Ubuntu...10:40
fizzlewhich program do i use to capture sound from my sound card10:40
Seveasfizzle, audacity10:40
Marc_DSeveas, it's not irrelivant, because i keep getting it when i try to install steam10:40
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plagiatsbattalion, gaim is already installed10:41
B1zzqhy is it when i run a game (chromium) it works fine but i get no sound but I do get sound using Xmmms for example10:41
plagiatsyou can launch it by pres... oh wtf10:41
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chunkymonkeyhow can gaim be accessed if it is installed?10:41
mweB1zz: maybe esd is blocking oss access10:41
plagiatsyou can launch it by pres.10:42
moodogevening all.10:42
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chunkymonkeysry for the copy paste i was unaware that its not allowed10:42
plagiatsyou can launch it by pressing alt+f2 and entering gaim10:42
tonyyarussochunkymonkey, Applications > Internet > Gaim, or gaim as the command.10:42
Seveaschunkymonkey, applications -> internet -> gaim10:42
plagiatsmenus are useless and confusing !10:42
Seveaschunkymonkey, and you should always read the topic when entering a channel10:42
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tonyyarussoSeveas, Do you have to manually remove those all the time, or are they set to time out eventually?10:43
mweB1zz: sorry I don't use gnome. I just read about esd claiming exclusive rights for the sound system. ask someone else10:43
petzhi everybody, my kde is unable to startup, anyone help me?10:43
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GnarlyBobI'm attempting to login on kdm, but when I try (either my user or root, which I've enabled login for), kdm blanks and restarts, with the following message in .xsession-errors: "No profile for user 'user' found."10:43
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Seveastonyyarusso, manually10:43
ColonelPaniqueplagiats : yeah! just memorize everything a restaurant offers! ;-)10:43
GnarlyBobany ideas?10:43
plagiatsColonelPanique, that's my job !!10:43
GnarlyBobhugely massively frustrated that ubuntu did not install "out of the box" on this off-the-shelf HP machine10:44
butcherbirdGnarlyBob: id say root login has to be enabled in your login manager but dunno how w/kdm10:44
chunkymonkeyk everyoe thanks for helping my install gaim i love you all :)10:44
sda3monumm....(video) hardware acceleration isn't enabled by default under ubuntu right? how do i enable it? i have an nvidia card using the free nv driver...it's just that dragging a window can use 100% of my GHz system10:44
Marc_DGnarley, do you have an install disk with an iso on it?10:44
Jrex-LinuxOk, I was told by Seveas that my sudo is broken, how do I fix it?10:44
GnarlyBobbutcherbird: has nothing to do with root, same thing happens on regular user. (I've enabled root login in any case.)10:44
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plagiatsGnarlyBob, ctrl+alt+f1 log as user and sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde10:44
ColonelPaniqueGnarlyBob : you seeme to be in here every week being hugely frustrated about Ubuntu. What's new? ;-)10:44
GnarlyBobok, thanks plagiats, I will try that10:44
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SeveasJrex-Linux, login in recoverymode and do chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo10:45
plagiatswait! !10:45
plagiatsto come back : ctrl+alt+F710:45
GnarlyBobColonelPanique: I've only been using ubuntu on this machine for a week, and am still unable to actually USE it10:45
Jrex-LinuxHow do I "login in recoverymode"10:45
sda3monctrl+f710:45
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sda3moni mean alt+f7 lol10:45
SeveasJrex-Linux, reboot, choose recovery mode from the boot menu10:45
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Jrex-Linuxah ok10:45
GnarlyBobplagiats: yeah, thanks.. (12 years hardcore linux experience, sick of tinkering, which is why I chose ubuntu... but I'm tinkering more than ever just to get it *working*)10:45
Jrex-LinuxThank you, Seveas10:45
ColonelPaniqueGnarlyBob : you'll get there, buddy you'll get there! ;-)10:46
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GnarlyBobat this point, I'm pretty close to "getting there" by dropping ubuntu like a bad habit and going back to gentoo10:46
Dr_Willisheh - ubuntu has been a rather trivial to get going disrto for my box's10:46
ghbHow do you set up the WLAN with encryption? Without encryption it's working fine, but with I just don't get any connection. What to do?10:46
GnarlyBobbut I just don't want my machine to be tied up X hours a day compiling shit.10:46
GnarlyBoberr stuff, sorry about the language.10:46
sda3moneh ill just google this hardware acceleration stuff, i was worried about getting old useless info though...10:46
ColonelPaniqueGnarlyBob : if you actually had *any* "hardcore linux experince" you'd have it working! ;-)10:46
topyliGnarlyBob: if it doesn't work, file a big slew of bugs10:46
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Dr_Willisbug report : 'it dont work'10:47
GnarlyBobColonelPanique: I don't *feel* like hacking drivers10:47
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topylibugs against non-working shit10:47
GnarlyBoband I shouldn't have to with this distribution that's supposed to be the most "out-of-the-box" distro out there10:47
GnarlyBobbut it's built on debian, so I guess much of this is par for the course10:47
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ColonelPaniqueGnarlyBob : Ubuntu GNU/Linux is no different than any other.  You must choose your hardware carefully. Failure to pay attention when selecting your hardware cannot be blamed on the system later. ;-)10:48
ghbIs there anyway to select what bit-encryption you're using?10:48
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lsuactiafnerGnarlyBob : just disable what you dont want or need in ubuntu, install build-essentials, run apt-get build-dep mplayer and compile what you want and dont want packages for10:48
KarlosIIhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba <--- when it asks for system_username what username is it asking for? your login id to gnome?10:48
GnarlyBobColonelPanique: but it *is* different. It's a debian-based distro, which makes it very debian-like, which is a *bad* thing to anybody who wants to use it for anything more than tinkering10:48
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lsuactiafnerGnarlyBob : i moved over from slackware, took some hacking to get it working like i was used to but in the end i think i made a good move10:48
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butcherbirdGnarlyBob: just curious..hp laptop? we've had a ton of problems supporting them after rolling out a few thousand at work10:49
lsuactiafnerubuntu is updated often enough so hassles and problems are sorted out in due time10:49
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hikenboothello i have a ubuntu system and a fedora image file mounted as /fedora i installed rpm into ubuntu and would like to install an rpm into the fedora image10:49
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Seveashikenboot, then go to #fedora10:49
lsuactiafnerGnarlyBob : and hoary didnt even bootup, had to ssh into a gentoo boxen and compile a kernel, but it was worth a few hours effort10:49
tonyyarussobutcherbird, Know anything about compatibility for an HP Pavillion DV4150us laptop?10:50
GnarlyBobbutcherbird: HP desktop10:50
sda3monuhhh okay google isn't helping much on this...anybody know where to start looking for info on enabling graphics acceleration in ubuntu? as in letting my video card use its processor as much as possible10:50
pysiakhello :-)10:50
GnarlyBobvery new, 945G chipset10:50
Seveassda3mon, which card?10:50
Kyral!sources10:50
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:50
decept1creepdoes the ubuntu kernel not support ntfs?10:50
sda3monnvidia geforce mx 400010:50
tebatcan anyone help me configure a printer on a network?10:50
GnarlyBobthe install/livecd wouldn't even *boot*10:50
SeveasGnarlyBob, probably no drivers yet I guess10:50
binarydigitdecept1creep: you cant read from ntfs partitions10:50
tebaton a windows network actually10:50
topylidecept1creep: it reads them10:50
Dr_Willistonyyarusso,  best to check the laptop wiki/forum section..  Very New laptops can be a hassle..10:50
SeveasGnarlyBob, tried a dapper flight 2?10:50
binarydigiter10:50
binarydigitcan*10:50
GnarlyBobhad to pass acpi garbage at the kernel10:50
mwe!tell sda3mon about nvidia10:51
pysiakare there backports of xorg7 for breezey?10:51
lsuactiafnerdecept1creep : no kernel supports ntfs writing, but it should support reading10:51
Seveaspysiak, no, never will be10:51
butcherbirdtonyyarusso: sorry no10:51
decept1creepoh snap10:51
GnarlyBobSeveas: no, I haven't, but I'm really loathe to install yet another try just to be able to do the coding I need to do, and I *really* can't see myself putting windoze back on this machine10:51
tonyyarussoDr_Willis, Didn't see anything.  It's a brand-new one, a friend's, wondering how it would do.10:51
Seveaslsuactiafner, ntfsprogs from dapper support writing to ntf via fuse :)10:51
topylipysiak: i can't think of a reason. someone probably has built some10:51
sda3monmwe: thank you10:51
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Dr_Willistonyyarusso,  yea - it can be an issue.. my CompaqV2311 had like no luinux support.. till Ubuntu 5.10 came out and fixed a lot of issues..10:51
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Dr_Willistonyyarusso,  best bet - try the various live cd's for a test.10:52
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GnarlyBob(interestingly enough, if I use gdm and choose KDE as the desktop to login to, I get KDE. If I use KDM, I can't start KDE.)10:52
SeveasGnarlyBob, with extremely new hardware you always run the risk of things not working.10:52
jenda-busyIs there a way to count the number of times a certain pattern appears in a text file?10:52
tonyyarussoDr_Willis, Okay.10:52
apokryphosGnarlyBob: well, what's the error message?10:52
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, recoverymode and 'chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo' did not fix my sudo10:52
cdownieis there an easy way to partition an unformatted disk after ubuntu has been installed?10:52
purpleheart_USMCAnyone get the linux journal or another magazine?10:52
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GnarlyBobI'm attempting to login on kdm, but when I try (either my user or root, which I've enabled login for), kdm blanks and restarts, with the following message in .xsession-errors: "No profile for user 'user' found."10:52
GnarlyBob(to answer apokryphos' question)10:52
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Seveasjenda-busy, if it does not appear more than once per line: grep pattern file | wc -l10:52
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ZiXhi guys do you know a graphical irc client that's better than x-chat?10:53
apokryphosGnarlyBob: your username is "user"?10:53
jenda-busySeveas: Danke :)10:53
tebati need some help connecting to a printer on a windows network.10:53
apokryphosZiX: kvirc 8)10:53
patCan anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that? I've seen a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Where can I make modifications?10:53
GnarlyBobno, the actual message had my username in it :)10:53
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Jrex-LinuxSeveas, recoverymode and 'chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo' did not fix my sudo10:53
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lsuactiafnerthanks Seveas10:53
GnarlyBobI just replaced it in here.10:53
SeveasJrex-Linux, then you messed it up pretty bad10:53
apokryphosGnarlyBob: you deleted your user profile?10:53
pysiakOk, thanks. I heard ubuntu has a stable development cycle, ie. every once a while there is a release, where can I read on such things like: when's the next release, what will it consist of ?10:53
GnarlyBobapokryphos: what user profile?10:53
apokryphosGnarlyBob: pretty much guaranteed to be a recipe for disaster10:53
Jrex-LinuxWhat could I have possibly done?10:53
GnarlyBobI didn't delete anything that I'm aware of10:53
ZiXapokryphos: and not for KDE10:53
ZiX:o10:53
Amaranthpat: sudo gedit10:53
damnhilI am using ubuntu5.04hoary. If I install openoffice2.0, will the old openoffice1.1 be removed?10:53
SeveasJrex-Linux, put the output of ls -l /usr/bin/sudo on the pastebin10:53
ZiXhi guys do you know a GTK irc client that's better than x-chat?10:53
apokryphosGnarlyBob: your user details10:54
Amaranthpat: then open the menu.lst file in gedit10:54
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Seveasdamnhil, yes, but OO.o2 from hoary is a really old beta10:54
damnhilZiX, I could find any10:54
sda3moneh im still having that problem with like the graphical sudo (i guess thats what i should call it) under gnome :/...su/sudo command-line works fine but this whole "Please enter your password to run /usr/sbin/..." thing is not working, says "Wrong password" which i know is bull10:54
apokryphosZiX: why? It's actually more Qt than anything; it can (and is in Windoze) built without kde libs.10:54
Seveasdamnhil, you'd better upgrade to breezy10:54
GnarlyBobapokryphos: I don't understand. I still exist as a user, I can login via any other means besides KDM10:54
topylipysiak: the ubuntu wiki has development pages. you'll be interested in gnome 2.14 development as well, since ubuntu will have it10:54
binarydigitGnarlyBob: see http://edevelop.org/node/1601 , see if that helps10:54
SeveasZiX, xchat-gnome :)10:54
ZiXapokryphos: what's kvirc kinda client, then?10:54
apokryphosGnarlyBob: have you tried reinstalling kdm?10:54
lsuactiafnerin the past 3 weeks did nvidia release a new video driver?10:54
damnhilSeveas, how can I upgrade from hoary to breezy? is that possible?10:54
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, tell me about pastebin again, I forgot the url10:54
apokryphosZiX: Qt, as I said. It can be built with kde libs10:55
Seveas!tell damnhil about breezy10:55
Seveas!tell Jrex-Linux about pastebin10:55
patAmaranth, what do you mean with 'sudo'?10:55
GnarlyBobapokryphos: no, I haven't... it was installed as part of the kubuntu-desktop package (the kde 3.5 one)10:55
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sda3monis there a sudoers list for the GUI sudo thingy???10:55
ZiXxchat-gnome? oO10:55
pysiaktopyli : thanks:-)10:55
Dr_Willislsuactiafner,  i think they did for windows.. not sure about linux.10:55
GnarlyBobbinarydigit: that's similar, but I don't get any locale errors.10:55
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Jrex-LinuxSeveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/650010:55
GnarlyBobOnly the "No profile for user 'chris' found"10:55
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apokryphosGnarlyBob: might be worth it; do sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm10:55
lsuactiafnerseems they did10:56
lsuactiafnerftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-8178/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run10:56
GnarlyBobapokryphos: I'll try that, was hoping to avoid it10:56
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lsuactiafnerwas on holiday10:56
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ZiXPakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar10:56
ZiXBoom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar10:56
ZiXDe volgende pakketten zullen VERWIJDERD worden:10:56
ZiX  ubuntu-desktop xchat xchat-common10:56
ZiXDe volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen genstalleerd worden:10:56
ZiX  xchat-gnome10:56
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SeveasJrex-Linux, OMFG, did you do a sudo chown in /usr or /usr/bin ?!?!10:56
GnarlyBobthe frustration is intense, though... I'm massively disappointed in ubuntu as the "just works" distro10:56
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gregHas anyone installted mySQL on ubuntu 5.10?10:56
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ZiXif i install that.. it will delete whole ubuntu-desktop oO10:56
Jrex-Linuxa wha?10:56
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gregI am  stuck with this error, can anyone help me out.. [test]  ERROR 1130: Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server10:57
SeveasJrex-Linux, ls -al /usr/bin10:57
Seveasoutput on the pastebin10:57
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florentbnsoir10:57
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Signifer123LAMPServer10:57
lsuactiafnerGnarlyBob : it works if you aint expecting it to be like slackware or gentoo ect10:57
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Jrex-Linuxits REALLY long10:57
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binarydigitGnarlyBob: linux is still a while away from just works on every system10:57
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dos-assassinI have installed Ares, through the use of wine, and I have even downloaded music with it... but the songs will not show up in the folder and after about 15 minutes of running the program I have so many errors in my terminal that my computer locks up... any help?10:57
lsuactiafnerand if you dont want to do certain non granny tasks10:57
GnarlyBobbinarydigit: no it's not.10:57
lsuactiafnerelse you need to hack any linux10:57
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Determinist:P10:58
bshumategreg: that is a fairly generic mysql error which folks on #mysql may be able to help you with10:58
apokryphosdos-assassin: why ares? Gnutella network is far superior 8)10:58
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, i cannot copy all of it, because it is too long, some moved out of scroll rage10:58
ManifoldHow do I disable the screensaver after locking the account?10:58
gregbshumate: thanks a lot :)10:58
GnarlyBobbinarydigit: it "just worked" with gentoo, I just don't want to be spending all my machine resources compiling needlessly, which is par for the course with gentoo10:58
dos-assassinI am used to Ares, but in all honesty, I haven't been able to get Gnutella to install on my pc10:58
polytek++10:58
binarydigiti wouldn't call gentoo, just works10:58
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SeveasJrex-Linux, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && ls -al /usr/bin | python pastebin10:58
Dr_Willisjust worked with the right kernel version and options.. :P10:58
talldavehas anyone got a little time to see if my remote desktop is working?10:59
binarydigitif i give my mom a gentoo install, things won't just work with her hitting enter a couple of times10:59
topyliJrex-Linux: direct it to a file: "ls -a > list.txt". or pipe it to less: "ls -a | less"10:59
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Seveasapokryphos, what do you use for gnutella?10:59
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tonyyarussoAll right, so I'm wondering whether I could make something like a Live CD, but on a USB flash drive, just for carting around to pop into other people's computers basically to show them the desktop, a say "See, Linux isn't just a command line".10:59
GnarlyBobbinarydigit: I agree. However, it was much *much* easier to get gentoo installed and running than ubuntu (which is *backwards* imho, gentoo is a tweaker's distro)10:59
apokryphosSeveas: the one kde app I miss is a kde gnutella client, in fact. These days I just use Frostwire/Limewire or gtk-gnutella10:59
tonyyarussoProblem is, my flash drive is only 256MB.10:59
Usiuwtf ?? no password for root in Ubuntu ?!?!!?!?!10:59
Usiuwtf is this ?11:00
apokryphos!tell Usiu about root11:00
Seveas!tell Usiu abot root11:00
ghbI have a wierd problem. My WLAN-card is working and everything, so is my WLAN access point. As long as no encryption is used, everything's fine. But, when I enable encryption, my ubuntu computer can't find the network anymore. Another computer with Windows can, but not my Ubuntu computer. I enter the WEP key, but still nothing... What's wrong here?11:00
apokryphosUsiu: a superior model11:00
butcherbirdtonyyarusso: damn small linux11:00
apokryphosUsiu: read what ubotu is sending you.11:00
bshumate!tell Usiu about RootSudo11:00
tonyyarussoAny way I can fit the very bare essentials on 256MB?11:00
SeveasUsiu, read the wikipage ubotu sent you11:00
Seveasand then come back11:00
HrdwrBoBghb: is it a string?11:00
GnarlyBobif I gave my mom a ubuntu cd (as I got them from ship-it) and she booted, and it hung like it did for me, she'd throw the CD away and continue with windows.11:00
dos-assassinAlright... so what would you suggest for a good P2P Client and how exactly should I install it?11:00
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binarydigitsomeone should make a bot that analyzes the chat to see how many questions could be answered through a 10 second search on google or ubuntuforums11:00
HrdwrBoBghb: if you are using iwconfig, the syntax for strings is s:stringkey11:00
ghbHrdwrBoB: ASCII string, you mean? It's hexcode, but I don't know if that's what you're looking for.11:00
HrdwrBoBotherwise it's in hex11:00
HrdwrBoByeah that's what I mean11:00
HrdwrBoBbinarydigit: 90% or so11:01
butcherbirdtonyyarusso: 50 mb11:01
ghbHrdwrBoB: Oh, well, I use the gui to configure the WLAN. I'll try the iwconfig...11:01
Seveasbinarydigit, people are generally lazy and stupid ;)11:01
binarydigitHrdwrBoB: definately11:01
apokryphosdos-assassin: worth trying out frostwire. You can download the rpm from their site and then do: alien frostwirewhatever.rpm and then install the .deb11:01
binarydigithah yea i noticed that11:01
tonyyarussobutcherbird, Thanks.  Would I basically just burn their Live CD onto the flash drive?11:01
UsiuSeveas, its fucking stupid!11:01
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topylidos-assassin: apt-get install gtk-gnutella11:01
apokryphosdos-assassin: first, however, you will want to have sun java. To do that, /msg ubotu javadebs11:01
HrdwrBoBghb: it may be that the drivers for your card don't like WEP11:01
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apokryphosSeveas: might be worth hosting a frostwire deb on your repo11:01
butcherbirdtonyyarusso: burn an iso of their livecd and there is a create usb option when u boot it11:01
EdLindos-assassin, you should install almost anything via either the "add programs" menu in applications or via synaptic or aptitude11:01
patCan anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that?11:02
patI've found a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Should I make the modifs in menu.lst or somewhere else? How can I get write access to that file?11:02
tonyyarussobutcherbird, Even better.11:02
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EdLindos-assassin,  (the latter two have more programs)11:02
ghbHrdwrBoB: Hmmm. Well, it works at uni, but I don't know if that's WEP.11:02
patCan anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that?11:02
patI've found a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Should I make the modifs in menu.lst or somewhere else? How can I get write access to that file?11:02
patCan anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that?11:02
patI've found a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Should I make the modifs in menu.lst or somewhere else? How can I get write access to that file?11:02
pathi11:02
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Jrex-LinuxSeveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/650211:02
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Seveassigh11:03
butcherbirdpat: lol hi11:03
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HrdwrBoB!tell pat about sudo11:03
Seveasas i said, people are stupid11:03
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dos-assassinOk now I have another question... I have gtk-gnutella 0.95.4 stable... but it says its out of date and apt-get update doesn't work11:03
ManifoldHow do I disable the screensaver after locking the account?11:03
apokryphospat: spamming/flooding is more likely to just annoy people, as you'll find.11:03
Kindred:\11:03
nekostarpat11:03
butcherbirdpat: u need to sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and u can edit it11:03
nekostargoogle it lol11:03
SeveasJrex-Linux, you've done VERY stupid things to your system11:03
nekostaror do what butcherbird said11:03
topyliSeveas: whatever happened to usenet? those articles are appearing here :)11:03
Jrex-Linux:(11:03
ghbHrdwrBoB: Nope, doesn't work. How do you enter the WEP using iwconfig? I just want to make sure I'm typing it correctly.11:04
Jrex-LinuxI have only done what people have told me to do11:04
ompaulSeveas, I contend that you are a percentage correct, however the true version reads as follows: there is no accounting for exactly how stupid some people are11:04
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sridoes anybody here have a owrking lirc with a serial kernel driver working?11:04
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dabaR__hehe11:04
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Jrex-LinuxSeveas, is there any way to repair the damage?11:04
SeveasJrex-Linux, boot back into recovery mode and run this: chown root:root /usr/bin/*11:04
HrdwrBoBghb: iwconfig interface essid youressid key YOURKEYINHEX11:04
Jrex-Linuxok11:04
ManifoldHow do I disable the screensaver after locking the account?11:04
Jrex-LinuxThank you Seveas11:05
ghbHrdwrBoB: Righto, I forgot the essid. Thought it wouldn't matter, but maybe it does. I'll try that.11:05
Seveastopyli, ever heard of the september that never ended?11:05
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topyliSeveas: endlessly :)11:05
grogoreohi11:05
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ompaulManifold, the same password as the user11:05
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Seveasthen you know the feeling :)11:05
EdLinManifold, system > preferences > screensaver11:05
talldaveI have been trying to set up a remote desktop server for hours now and would be greatful f someone could check it out for me11:05
grogoreohas anyone manged to run aMSN 0.95 on Breezy?11:05
ManifoldThanks, EdLin11:05
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tbwAnyone got an advice on how to make firefox render better fonts?11:05
tbwThe pages look like crap to me11:05
apokryphosgrogoreo: yup; very easy to setup.11:05
apokryphosgrogoreo: there's just nothing to keep me using it.11:06
topyliSeveas: i actually try to hang on a few groups on usenet still. it's getting more and more painful though11:06
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jenda-busy!TELL tbw about fonts11:06
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ghbHrdwrBoB: Nope, doesn't work.11:07
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Seveastopyli, see #ubuntu-offtopic11:07
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nekostar!fonts11:08
ubotusomebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto11:08
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Toba|BSDhttp://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/fstab.txt11:09
Toba|BSDanything wrong with that?11:09
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dos-assassinHow do you update gtk-gnutella?11:09
notOnyxgreetings all, I'm trying to run ubuntu and am having all kinds of problems 1. getting apt-get going  2. installing ssh (or verifying it is already intstalled) 3. opening port 2211:09
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tbwI wonder what font is used in windows so it looks normal ;)11:09
tbwEverything is all bold and irriating.11:09
tbwirritating11:09
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Toba|BSDsystem -> preferences -> font11:09
notOnyxto get apt-get going, I'm referncing the ubuntu wiki here:11:10
ompaulToba|BSD, what is not happening for you?11:10
notOnyxhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories11:10
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SeveasnotOnyx, ubuntuguide.org sucks11:10
ompaul!guide11:10
ubotuompaul: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!11:10
Jrex-Linux*sigh*11:10
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ompaul!ubuntuguide11:10
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead11:10
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, it did not work11:11
tbwwell11:11
tbwSan Serif is muc nicer ;)11:11
Toba|BSDompaul: nothing, it mounts ok11:11
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SeveasJrex-Linux, did it give an error?11:11
Toba|BSDbut it complains about the auto filesystem type detection11:11
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notOnyxthanks11:11
ghbThere's something I find really annoying: Whenever I'm closing the lid, I have to enter my login password. I want to disable it, how do I do that?11:11
ompaulToba|BSD, so why the question, and have you removed the second ide harddrive?11:11
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Jrex-LinuxI got the same error when trying to log into sudo in terminal11:11
Toba|BSDompaul: yes, /dev/hdb1 is no longer there11:11
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Toba|BSDmy question is now to make it stop complaining and saying it fails on boot11:12
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Toba|BSDit says that it failed to mount /dev/hdd11:12
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Toba|BSDbut it does mount11:12
Jrex-Linuxsudo: must be setuid root11:12
Toba|BSDit's cosmetic I guess, but I don't like stuff even saying it fails11:12
SEJeffghb: it uses sudo to shutdown and run the hibernate / suspend scripts. You can disable sudo for asking for passwords11:12
SeveasJrex-Linux, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin; ls -al /usr/bin | python pastebin11:12
Seveastry that one again11:12
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Jrex-Linuxit says saved11:13
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ompaulToba|BSD, I see no11:13
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ghbSEJeff: Can't I just disable it from going into hibernate? What's the difference between stand-by and hibernate, anyway?11:13
Seveaswhich url does it give?11:13
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Jrex-Linuxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/650311:13
Toba|BSDbrb, rebooting11:13
gnomefreaksorry Seveas all you had to do was ask11:13
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ompaulToba|BSD, the clue is in my /home :) read this and see if you get it in a min if not ask >>>/dev/hda10      /home           ext3    defaults        0       2<< and it is not the 211:13
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SEJeffhibernate: write data to disk, recognize and boot from that data once computer is turned back on. suspend: data in ram is saved and computer goes into low power mode11:14
mateuszHi I have a problem with ubuntu after setting a password my network stoped working.. I cant do anything.. I get yenta innterput and irq11 error.. why ? it happens when I try to do sth with connection..11:14
tonyyarussoCan I boot from an ISO on the hard disk?11:14
Seveasgnomefreak, I gave up on asking, in 99% of the cases it does not help. Don't take it too personal :)11:14
gnomefreakSeveas, im sorry didnt know it bothered people11:15
notOnyxi want to update my apt-get to be pointed to the right place to successfully run  apt-get install firestarter11:15
notOnyxhow can I do this?11:15
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ompaulgnomefreak, #ubuntu-offtopic for a sec :)11:15
notOnyxhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?highlight=%28apt%29  ain't helping11:15
mateuszAny ideas ??11:15
SeveasJrex-Linux, hmm, it's even more fucked up then I thought...11:15
CodyDHHi! Does anyone have any ideas how well a Pentium M Dell D800 would be supported under Ubuntu 5.10? I am talking about suspend when you close the lid, and power stepping11:15
Jrex-Linuxeek11:15
Jrex-LinuxWhat have I done?11:15
ghbSEJeff: Ok, well, I would like it to stand-by, but never to hibernate... I hate hibernation. =)11:15
binarydigitCodyDH: power stepping should be fine11:15
SeveasJrex-Linux, write the following command down, boot into recoerymode and execute it11:16
binarydigitdont know about suspend11:16
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Jrex-Linuxok11:16
josephwhat version of gnome does ubuntu have?11:16
dos-assassinAfter downloading the new gtk-gnutella I have it on my desktop in .deb format... but it won't install11:16
tbwAnyone know what I have to do to configure WPA11:16
tonyyarusso!tell notOnyx about universe11:16
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notOnyxthanks tony :)11:16
CodyDHbinarydigit, Ok... I'm considering trying Ubuntu over my FC4 install if it does better on here as far as actually using it as a laptop. Otherwise it's XP for me.11:16
skonCodyH: many laptops have problems with the laptop lid under ubuntu, not sure if there is aworkaround at this time11:16
crimsuntbw: there are two files you have to edit, /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf11:16
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Stew_LappyCodyDH  - I got a Dell Inspiron 6000 - all that works fine for me11:16
mateuszI've installed ubuntu 5.10 and I have toshiba tecra8000 and my network card doesnt work.. any help here ?11:16
mateusz?11:16
CodyDHStew_Lappy, How'd you get the lid thing to work?11:16
butcherbirdCodyDH: best bet would be to try the livecd before install11:16
tbwcrimsun: No GUI to do it?11:16
SealyDaveanybody know a slax irc11:16
decept1creepmaniconfig11:16
binarydigitCodyDH: suspend and hibernate are one of those iffy things under linux11:16
crimsuntbw: nope.11:16
Seveaschmod u+s cardinfo chfn chsh fping fping6 gpasswd lppasswd newgrp passwd pmount pumount sudo11:17
decept1creepi tihnk11:17
kemikis arts better than alsa/esd etc ?11:17
tbwcrimsun: I need to move back and forth between WEP and WPA11:17
CodyDHAlso, any suggestions on partitioning my 20GB partition? I want a separate home partition...11:17
binarydigityou usually have to do some hacking to get them to work right11:17
crimsunkemik: arts _uses_ alsa if you configure it thusly11:17
tbwcrimsun: Is it easy to define which to use by which access points are available?11:17
mateuszcrimsun: ?11:17
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kemikcrimsun:  ah, so arts is a sort of wrapper ?11:17
CodyDHbinarydigit, OK... insofar I've found no solutions under Fedora, so I was hoping Ubuntu might have better support out of the box.11:17
SeveasJrex-Linux, see private message for more commands you need11:17
crimsuntbw: yes, you'll need to use a mapping directive in /etc/network/interfaces. You'll probably want to map via the essid. man 5 interfaces.11:18
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EdLincrimsun, arts is a sound daemon, like esd11:18
tbwcrimsun: k11:18
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Jrex-LinuxSeveas, what private message?11:18
Jrex-Linuxnm11:18
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KarlosII_topyli: all that trouble becase of a software firewall issue :/11:18
TengkSACan someone please help me with boot settings I installed ubuntu after windows and now windows isnt listed in boot options when i boot up.11:18
crimsunEdLin: I think you misaddressed that.11:18
ompaulJrex-Linux, from the bot11:18
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EdLincrimsun, sorry. :-(11:19
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kemiki saw the answer tho :)11:19
topyliKarlosII: oh :)11:19
Some_Bodyhm, what's the exact location of ndiswrapper in breezy?11:19
kemikTengkSA:  sudo fdisk -l11:19
Jrex-Linuxompaul, no, he is PMing me himself11:19
TengkSAompaul hallo :P how was shopping11:19
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kemikTengkSA:  lets hope you didnt overwrite your windows partition :|11:19
TengkSAno i never did11:20
ompaulTengkSA, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)11:20
EdLinkemik, ALSA isn't a sound daemon, it's how the kernel talks to the hardware, like what it replaces (but has backwards compatability with), OSS11:20
ompaulJrex-Linux, no comment :)11:20
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kemikEdLin:  yeah, but esd and arts are sound-daemons as you said ;)11:20
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EdLinkemik, yep11:21
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Toba|BSDompaul: could you look at http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/fstab.txt and http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/mountfail.jpg?11:21
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dos-assassinOk I installed the program... but it says I am firewalled... how do I change this?11:21
jose__is there a non nonfree apt to open rar archives?11:21
thegladiatormy nautilus is dead11:21
EdLinkemik, personally I hate sound daemons. Though I hear jackd is decent, but poorly supported.11:21
thegladiatorwhat do I do now ?11:21
TengkSAkemik what do i do after that command11:21
crimsunjose__: unrar-nonfree11:21
kemiksound really is FUBAR in linux :(11:21
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kemikTengkSA:  see if there were any windows partitions listed11:21
benplautanyone know how to stream audio from npr.org? it's in .WAX format11:21
jose__is there a          non nonfree             apt to open rar archives?11:22
crimsunkemik: depending on one's hardware, it can be. Thankfully we have audio developers present.11:22
thegladiatornautilus just doesnt start11:22
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crimsunjose__: not one that can open all rars.11:22
pixelmonkeywhy is it that when I plug in a USB Disk drive formatted as FAT32, it automounts and I can create folders and add files to it, but when I insert the same disk formatted as ext3, I can't have write access to it (though it still automounts)11:22
thegladiatorcan someone tell me what do i now ?11:22
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DelvienAnyone get VMWARE running under the 2.6.15-10-38611:22
Delvien Dapper kernal?11:22
TengkSAone says HPFS/NTFS i presume that is windows11:22
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ilpavoxwhy does top tell me that 50% of my cpu is free when there is a ps in the running that claims to be using 75% of the cpu?11:22
jose__i c11:22
kemikcrimsun:  well, i have to wait for an updated version of Skype i think, if i am to be able to use skype whilst playing mp3 in beep/rhythm etc..11:22
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topylithegladiator: run nautilus from a terminal and see the error messages11:22
crimsunkemik: that's correct.11:23
TengkSAkemik: hpfs ntfs11:23
marcin`whooooa I'm in shock!!!11:23
kemikTengkSA:  mmh, probably :) make not of which hdXY it is11:23
TengkSAi dont understand11:23
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thegladiatorThe Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.11:23
thegladiatorYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.11:23
tbwDoes this support WPA2 ?11:23
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pschulz01I have just installed Ubuntu )Breezy) on an IBM x206 server... all OK so far, but what tape backup software do people use/recommend?11:23
marcin`finally after YEARS gnome developers implemented Shift+Delete in Nautilus...11:23
thegladiatorthis error comes up like a infinite loop11:23
crimsuntbw: yes, but it may be problematic. You'll want Dapper's source version if you want stable WPA2 support.11:24
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ScootaDootatape backup = tar11:24
TengkSAkemik i dont understand11:24
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thegladiatorwhat use marcin` :)11:24
kemikTengkSA:  understand what ?11:24
thegladiatorme too11:24
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topylithegladiator: i would delete or move the .nautilus directory11:24
thegladiatornautilus is just crap11:24
TengkSAmake not of which hdxy is11:24
pschulz01ScootaDoota: GUI?11:24
pixelmonkeydo I need to be a member of the disk group or something?11:24
tbwcrimsun: maybe I'll just drop my home network back to WEP11:24
thegladiatorlemm give a try11:24
tbwcrimsun: and move on w/ my life ;)11:24
ompaulToba|BSD, what are you actually running because the sda to me should only pop into existance with hotplug in my mind11:24
topylithegladiator: then you'll get a clean environment for it (hopefully)11:24
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kemikTengkSA:  you should make  a not of which /dev/hdXY that the ntfs/hpfs partition has11:24
kemikTengkSA:  it tells you which HD and partition number it is11:25
crimsuntbw: WPA2 works fine; I use it myself.11:25
TengkSAkemik: yes but how do i do this11:25
kemikTengkSA:  write it down on a paper?11:25
pschulz01ScootaDoota: I have used 'mtx' in the past.. and have heard 'amada' mentioned as well11:25
kemikTengkSA:  or just rememberit =)11:25
lucasvohey folks: some offtopic, but what do you think of: http://wservices.ch/~lucas/ablage/webdef_2.png as a webdesign?11:25
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DelvienHow do reinstall a version of a kernal (IE 2.6.15-9-386)11:25
TengkSAkemik: how do i make a not11:25
tbwcrimsun: Well, I'm in Toronto for the holiday, when I get back to Indiana I'll have to look you up so I can get WPA2 working right ;011:25
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kemikTengkSA:  oh.. "note" :)11:26
crimsuntbw: I'm the maintainer for it. Look in the changelog if you need to e-mail me.11:26
TengkSAohhhh okay ive done this11:26
TengkSAthat11:26
thegladiatortopyli, how do i delete the folder in terminal?11:26
tbwcrimsun: Awesome, thanks.11:26
odlais there a libdvdcss2 package available for amd64?11:26
spolais it possible to make "files" that are really tcp/ip connections?11:26
mateuszSeveas: I have never seen the worst project it was the biggest mistake in my life, the biggest waste of time.. no mc in default instalation, no xorgconfig!, xorg splited in many packages who thought it would be cool ?? network card doesnt work..11:26
TengkSAkemik okay done11:26
crimsunspola: expand.11:26
apokryphosodla: packages.ubuntu.com11:26
topylithegladiator: better to move it, not delete. mv .nautilus .nautilus-svass11:27
EdLinspola, it's possible, but it's better to deal with network stuff using sockets11:27
odlaapokryphos: but it's a script that must be run not a package11:27
topylithegladiator: then killall nautilus to be safe, then run nautilus11:27
TengkSAkemik now what11:27
marcin`thegladiator: I agree that nautilus is crap - and I use mc and dired in emacs..11:27
Toba|BSDompaul: yeah, somebody else already pointed out that /dev/sda should not be in my fstab11:27
kemikTengkSA:  or maybe just try to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows11:27
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apokryphosodla: the script comes in a package11:27
Toba|BSDI removed it and now it looks like things are going ok11:27
ScootaDootapschulz:...... I always use tar and crontab, but amanda is good and makes it easy to do network backups....but tar and cron are very simple to use11:27
notOnyxare very, very slow rebooting load times typical with ubuntu?11:27
ompaulToba|BSD, the question was what are you running?11:27
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thegladiatorand after that shud i quit x and log back ?11:28
odlaapokryphos: i have the package but it seems like the script didn't work11:28
Seveasstupid ban avoiding mofo11:28
thegladiatorthis error message nautilus is still hanging11:28
spolawell, im writing some scripts in bash and i'd like to redirect the log to a socket11:28
pschulz01ScootaDoota: BRU is mentioned as well.11:28
marcin`thegladiator: but I just copied some files from cd with nautilus and hit shift+del 'automatically'11:28
TengkSAkemik: okay ta11:28
thegladiatorwhen i give a restart after moing , still it doesnt work11:28
butcherbirdnotOnyx: did u format with reiser by any chance?11:28
marcin`thegladiator: and it worked - I'm still in deep shock :)11:28
spolawell, to another machine really (my backup server)11:28
thegladiator:)11:28
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odlahow do i rip wavs as mp3s?11:28
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thegladiatortopyli, shud i restart x ?11:29
EdLinodla, the program lame11:29
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odlaEdLin: is it command line?11:29
ScootaDootapschulz01:  are you used to using tape drives under windows?11:29
beerockxsgtkpod says that the iTunesDB file on my iPod is missing, although the file is not missing.11:29
butcherbirdodla: lame? or audacity will do it i would think11:29
beerockxsanyone know what might cause that problem?11:29
topylithegladiator: is nautilus still madly restarting?11:29
marcin`thegladiator: I still cannot believe that gnome developers did something that Eugenia and thousand of users asked for few years ago :)11:29
EdLinodla, yes. There are programs that can act as front ends to it though.11:29
notOnyxI did the "repartition" format11:29
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thegladiatortopyli, yes11:29
notOnyxbutcherbird: I did the "repartition" format11:29
TengkSAkemik i want to recover windows after installing ubuntu not vice versa11:29
thegladiatori moved the folder11:29
thegladiatorand clicked on restart nautuils11:29
Toba|BSDompaul: ubuntu 5.1011:29
Toba|BSDsorry about the delay11:30
crimsunspola: there's an easier solution called sshfs, presuming your backup server runs openssh-server.11:30
thegladiatortopyli, what do you think on reinstalling nautilus ?11:30
thegladiatorusing synaptic ?11:30
topylilog out, delete the .nautilus folder (which probably is recreated by now) in a console and then log back in11:30
spolacrimsun, cool im gonna look into that. thx11:30
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TengkSAkemik will this still work11:30
butcherbirdnotOnyx: what point during bootup is taking alot of time?11:31
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beerockxsis there an easy way to install windows as a secondary OS without frying the MBR?11:31
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Seveascrimsun, hehe, sshfs is cool :)11:31
notOnyxburtcherbird: I boot, I see all the linux stuff scrolling, i get a screen with a mouse cursor I can move but it is black for a good 5 minutes before it pops up a login screen GUI11:31
knightHowdy! .. Anyone know of a program that will find duplicate songs, and remove them ...11:31
Seveasbeerockxs, by installing windows first...11:32
crimsunSeveas: indeed :)11:32
butcherbirdnotOnyx: hmm havent experienced that.  whats your processor and ram?11:32
Toba|BSDthanks for your help ompaul11:32
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ompaulToba|BSD, well you could try it with that hashed out and see if it is available11:32
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dtrostishello, I've been trying to install the java plugin for firefox 1.5 without success, can someone guide me thru the process?11:32
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notOnyx2.4 intel + ~1 gig ram11:32
Seveascrimsun, my mtab once was 20 lines long due to it ;)11:32
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beerockxsSeveas, obviously. But I don't want to reformat11:32
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spolacrimsun, this looks sweet11:32
Seveasbeerockxs, then install windows as second os and restore grub11:33
marcin`dtrostis: do you have java jre or jdk downloaded already?11:33
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dtrostismarcin jre11:33
zool2005how can I create .deb files from source?11:34
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ScootaDootapschulz01: is BRU free?  Amanda is a frontend for other tools, so have a lookat that11:34
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apokryphoszool2005: using checkinstall; so configure --prefix=/whatever/prefix && make && sudo checkinstall11:34
Seveaszool2005, through ah quite complicated process (which is actually very easy once you did it a few times)11:34
marcin`dtrostis: so you just need to create symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins11:34
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apokryphoszool2005: to make proper debs is another issue though.11:34
knightAnyone know of a program that will find duplicate songs, and remove them11:34
fckSeveasSeveas: UBUNTU IS A FUCKING GARBAGE!!11:34
dtrostishow the hell you do that marcin?11:34
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marcin`dtrostis: and symlinked file should be libjavaplugin_oji.so11:35
zool2005is it better to install straight from source?11:35
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dtrostishow the hell you do that marcin?11:35
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butcherbirdnotOnyx: sorry not sure maybe a xorg.conf thing? might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:35
marcin`dtrostis: from your [JAVA_HOME] /plugin/i386/ns711:35
Seveassigh11:35
Seveasmore ban avoiding11:35
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apokryphosSeveas: it's his way of expressing his love for you, don't mind him. ;-)11:36
Jrex-LinuxSeveas,11:36
Jrex-Linuxand you want me to delete chown :plugdev pmount <-- scratch this one ?11:36
notOnyxbutcherbird: I just got apt-get working and ssh working, so I'm flying high and configing - I will try that once things are stable, thanks very much for taking the time to answer :)11:36
Seveasapokryphos, i get tired of such FUCKING STUDPID CRAZY MOTHERFUCKERS11:36
marcin`dtrostis: do you know how to make symlink?11:36
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topylizool2005: you can make debs for personal use quite easily with checkinstall11:36
topylilol11:36
ilpavoxanyone catch my question?11:36
Jrex-Linuxlol11:36
ManifoldIs there a way to make synaptic show the dapper repositories?11:36
beerockxsanyone have experience with gtkpod?11:36
dtrostiswhoa whoa whoa marcin, let start fromt eh beginning. I downloades that damn file, now what?11:36
apokryphosSeveas: don't let them get you down :)11:37
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ajmitchSeveas: you should have let one of us kick you, it would have been more satisfying11:37
zool2005I like using packaged apps cos its easy to install/uninstall,11:37
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Seveasajmitch, be my guest :)11:37
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dtrostisI copy the file to the usr dir11:37
zool2005how easy is it to uninstall apps installed from source?11:37
pysiakhmm11:37
Seveaszool2005, make uninstall11:37
Seveas(from the sourcedir)11:37
apokryphoszool2005: trivial11:37
zool2005ah11:37
pysiakwhich package contains devel manuals? like man fopen11:37
crimsunpysiak: manpages-dev11:38
Seveaspysiak, manpages-dev11:38
pysiakthanks!11:38
ajmitchapokryphos: not always11:38
Seveasmanpages-posix-dev is nice too11:38
marcin`dtrostis: first... write my nick first - this channel moves too fast and I need11:38
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Seveasthegladiator, DO NOT IRC AS ROOT!11:38
thegladiatorsprry there11:38
dtrostismarcin: I donwloaded the file, now what?11:38
thegladiatori am fixing a fatal bug11:38
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ShadymanSeveas: Amen11:38
spolahehe "FunFS is an advanced network file system with a simple goal: to be better than NFS." nice name11:38
marcin`dtrostis: to see that you write something to me (my irc client highlights messages to me)11:38
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apokryphoswe really need to train ubotu to "woo, root has landed"11:38
ITSa341Help, I installed vmware and now my dvd won't work. It doesn't even show up in <system><administration><disks>11:38
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thegladiatortopyli, still no use11:38
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mike_can someone help me set up a WPC11 pcmcia 802.11b nic on ubuntu11:39
marcin`dtrostis: then - what file you downloaded?11:39
zool2005I've been using linux for 2 years, gradually picking up things along the way but I've never needed to uninstall from source as I started with Suse, Redhat then Mandriva before moving to Ubuntu11:39
thegladiatornautilus just doesnt work et all11:39
skon!wifi11:39
ubotufrom memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:39
TengkSAkemik i am getting an error message11:39
mike_thanks11:39
SeveasITSa341, vmware is neither supported nor supportable by Ubuntu...11:39
ghbWhenever I use encryption on my WLAN, it doesn't work. But without encryption everything works flawlessly. Do I need new drivers or something? It's an Intel card and apparently no one has had any problems with it. =(11:39
dtrostisjre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin11:39
ManifoldIs there a way to make synaptic show the dapper repositories?11:39
skonghb: what type?11:39
topylithegladiator: there must be some gconf weirdness going on as well. i wonder how we could kill nautilus properly11:39
dtrostismarcin' jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin11:39
ibmnotebookairsnort doesn't get the WEP password of my LAN, but receives thousands of packages... whats wrong?11:39
ScootaDootaUbuntu isn;t supported by vmware11:39
apokryphosManifold: why?11:39
ghbskon: It's called PRO/Wireless 2200BG11:39
TengkSAmount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /boot/ busy11:39
thegladiatorweird11:39
TengkSAmount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /media/hda211:39
thegladiatorwat can i do next ?11:40
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ManifoldJust wondering.11:40
skonghb: what type of encryption11:40
thegladiatorreinstall something ?11:40
ghbskon: WEP11:40
EdLinzool2005, have you added the universe and multiverse repositories? If so, there will be lots of programs to choose from.11:40
beerockxsScootaDoota, but vmware does work in ubuntu11:40
thegladiatorlike reinstall nuatilus ?11:40
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skonghb: what are you using to connect via WEP?11:40
ITSa341Seveas   I can deal with that and I can remove vmware but any ideas on getting my dvd working again. I've always been a windows man and don't know where to start tracking it down11:40
ScootaDootayes...it may well do...but that doesn't mean vmware support it.11:40
thegladiatori always dreaded this wud happend someday11:40
thegladiatornautilus shud never be used on official things11:40
thegladiatori made a wrong choice11:40
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ghbskon: That WLAN card, and a D-Link 7000 AP. Tried with another laptop, with Windows, and that worked.11:40
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ScootaDootahence I have a redhat box for vmware stuff11:41
zool2005yeah, i've added them all but I want to try Wormux (worms clone) which hasn't been released in .deb format yet for the most recent version11:41
skonghb: i mean what program are you using to connect11:41
SeveasITSa341, no clue, you didn;t give any info so how would you expect us to have a clue :)11:41
zool2005make uninstall has sorted me anyway, cheers11:41
ITSa341bummer too since vmware allowed me to install XP and Streets and trips11:41
thegladiatortopyli, can you suggest any fix?11:41
thegladiatorsomeone please help me11:41
odlaaudacity doesn't seem to recognize my music cd i have in my cdrom drive11:41
topylinot really :(11:41
ghbskon: Oh... Um... I dunno. iwconfig, you mean? Otherwise I just do a dhclient and open Firefox and off I go.11:41
TengkSAsomeone please help i installed ubuntu now and windows doesnt come up in my booting anymore how do i bring it back11:41
EdLinzool2005, you still want to do that though.11:41
dtrostismarcin?11:41
odlabut sound juicer does11:41
thegladiatorthe nautilus is jut dead11:41
thegladiatori have no clue to fix it11:42
thegladiatori removed the.nautilus directory11:42
dtrostissend marcin' : jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin11:42
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zool2005add extra repositories?11:42
ITSa341Seveas  as I stated, I asked for help because I don't know where to start hence I have no idea what info you would need. If I knew where to look I would most likely know how to figure it out myself11:42
SeveasTengkSA, put thr output of 'sudo fdisk -l' and the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:42
EdLinzool2005, yes. You'll have access to over 15,000 programs that way.11:42
skonghb: did you try using the gnome network configuration tool?11:42
SeveasITSa341, is vmware already uninstalled?11:42
ITSa341No, it's working but it is unloaded11:42
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zool2005yup, I had to install them to get other bits n bobs, the wiki & other info sources brought me up to date pretty quickly11:43
crimsunghb: remember that an ascii passphrase needs quotes in /etc/network/interfaces, but the hex representation doesn't.11:43
SeveasITSa341, try rebooting without loading anything related to vmware11:43
TengkSAseveas can i talk to u in prvt please11:43
ghbskon: Yeah, that's what I've been using (and iwconfig) and the WEP key is entered and all. But it just can't find the network. It's so strange. I wish I could enter the bit-encryption so I knew how much to type.11:43
SeveasTengkSA, no, just ask in here11:43
EdLinzool2005, Oh, OK. Then you know what I'm talking about. :-)11:43
ompaulTengkSA, did you do as Seveas asked?11:43
thegladiatorguess i will have to remove ubuntu now11:43
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thegladiatordamn thing11:43
dtrostismarcin'11:43
ITSa341Just did that before I came here bugging you. I do try to avoid asking for help when I can figure it out11:43
ompaulTengkSA, you must do as he asked at this time11:43
ITSa341still learning11:43
ghbcrimsun: Hmm ok. So far I've just used the GUI config tool and not been messing around in the config files...11:43
dtrostishello, I've been trying to install the java plugin for firefox 1.5 without success, can someone guide me thru the process?11:44
TengkSAit doesnt work it gives me a permission denied seveas11:44
Seveasdtrostis, no .bin or .deb file will install java for FF1.511:44
Seveasdtrostis, in which folder did you install ff1.5?11:44
ghbcrimsun: I'm using a hex code, by the way. Does it make any difference? It's just ten 1s so it's easy to remember. ;)11:44
EdLinzool2005, there's only one thing I miss, slime, it's in the Debian unstable non-free repository but not in multiverse11:44
SeveasTengkSA, what gave you that permission denied?11:44
Signifer123same as the mozilla way11:44
ompaulthegladiator, log out log in and see what happens try running nautilus from a terminal (applications accessories terminal)11:44
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skonghb: I am using 128 WEP and I just type in my encryption code right into the gnome configuration tool and it seems to work fine...11:44
dtrostisI don't think I even installed the file11:44
ManifoldDoes Zinf support FLAC?11:44
TengkSAwhen i type /boot/grub/menu.lst11:44
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Signifer123http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable11:44
TengkSASeveas, when i type /boot/grub/menu.lst11:44
Signifer123java for mozilla11:44
SeveasTengkSA, it's a file, put the *CONTENTS* of it on the pastebin11:44
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zool2005what's slime?11:45
thegladiatorompaul,  did all that . the nautilus will just show the error The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.11:45
thegladiatorYou can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.11:45
dtrostisSeveas: I just copy the file to the /usr directory11:45
HobbseeEdLin: compile it then?11:45
thegladiatorlike an infinite loop11:45
crimsunghb: should work fine, then.11:45
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Seveasdtrostis, which file?11:45
dtrostisjre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin11:45
EdLinHobbsee, it's an emacs extention11:45
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ghbcrimsun: Yeah, that's what I thought as well...11:45
Seveasdtrostis, put that in your homedir11:45
HobbseeEdLin: ah rightg11:45
thegladiatorhow do i kilall nautilus ?11:45
Seveasdtrostis, where did you install *firefox*?11:45
TengkSAseveas how do i access that FILE11:45
Hobbseethegladiator: in a terminal, killall nautilus11:45
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ITSa341Seveas, can you recommend anything else instead of vmware to get access to some of the things windows offers I can't do without? Is win4lin any better? If so I'll uninstall vmware and try again from fresh install. I want to make some partition changes anyway.11:45
sda3monhey what package do i need for that little "Boot editor" in the Applications->System Tools menu? it edits my grub conf file i believe11:46
topylithegladiator: whatever it is, i'm sure the problem is in your home directory and not the system. log out, switch to a console, create another user and try11:46
SeveasTengkSA, with a text editor like gedit or kate11:46
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HobbseeTengkSA: nano /boot/grub/menu.lst11:46
ompaulthegladiator, >>sudo killall nautilus<<11:46
Jrex-LinuxEEK11:46
SeveasITSa341, sorry, no experience with that11:46
SeveasJrex-Linux, ?11:46
dtrostisOk, i put the file in the home folder, what now? FF is installed by default, I think11:46
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, It gave me a bunch of "direcory's not found"11:46
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Seveasdtrostis, I thought you were talking about firefox 1.5?11:46
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Jrex-LinuxAnd I kinda did something really stupid11:46
tebatcan anyone help me configure the use of a printer on a windows network that i'm connected to?11:46
dtrostisYes Firefox 1.511:46
thegladiatorafter a kill nautilus it  respawns11:47
jenda-zZzthegladiator: it should11:47
thegladiatorjust cant get rid of that11:47
Seveasdtrostis, that one is not installed by default11:47
skonubotu: tell tebat about samba11:47
sda3moncome on, someone knows...what package do i need for that little "Boot editor" in the Applications->System Tools menu? it edits my grub conf file11:47
thegladiatorit wont work after that11:47
Jrex-LinuxI told it to log everything to fix.sh, clearing the file, where are xchat logs stored?11:47
SeveasJrex-Linux, what? (come back to private chat :))11:47
crimsunsda3mon: bum?11:47
thegladiatorwhen i give a close it respwans again11:47
Seveasargh,,, that also explains the directories not found...11:47
tebati have samba, i'm connected to the windows network and everything, but i can't seem to set up the printer for use on my system.11:47
ghbcrimsun: Maybe I could just use unencrypted and hope no one spots my vulnerable network. =)11:47
sda3moncrimsun: maybe, trying it11:47
SeveasJrex-Linux, /home/ubuntu/.xchat2/xchatlogs/11:47
thegladiatortopyli, i am not logged in as toor11:48
ScootaDootathegladiator: what happens when you run nautilus -c at the command prompt11:48
Jrex-Linuxak, k11:48
thegladiatorrooot11:48
ompaulthegladiator, fine,>> ctrl alt F1<< log in and do this rm .ICEauthority then >>ctrl alt f7<< and try logging in again11:48
Dreamer_ukI know that there is an nx channel but I wondered if this might be a ubuntu issue, I connect and auth ok but then get "Permission denied (publickey,password)" on my windoze client anyone feeling nice to help?11:48
TengkSASeveas,  i sent it for u11:48
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Dreamer_uksorry this is for freenx11:48
sda3moncrimsun: no not that...i mean the program that lets you add/delete what operating systems grub can boot and their options11:48
topylithegladiator: i know. however, if you create another, fresh user, we can see if nautilus is broken or not11:48
SeveasDreamer_uk, did you install freenx from the Ubuntu packages?11:48
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Dreamer_ukSeveas, yes11:48
dtrostisseveas, I think that in the /etc dir11:49
Dreamer_ukand made the auth change11:49
topylithegladiator: try ompaul's cleanup first11:49
SeveasDreamer_uk, auth change?!?11:49
teprrrhttp://pastebin.com/487734 -- can anyone help? x crash on dapper when trying to start any gl app..11:49
thegladiatorlet me try what ompaul said and we will do that11:49
thegladiatoryes11:49
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Seveasdtrostis, that would be weird, how did you do that?11:49
Dreamer_ukthe soft link to xauth that stops the cookie error11:49
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thegladiatorScootaDoota, it does self check well no errors11:49
SeveasTengkSA, that's not the complete file11:49
TengkSASeveas,  i sent the real thing now11:49
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Seveasah :)11:49
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tebatcan anyone help me, i am connected to a windows network via samba, but i can't seem to gain access to the printer hooked up to one of the windows computers on the network.11:50
SeveasDreamer_uk, that shouldn't be neccessary11:50
dtrostisSeveas, I really dont know what I did, I've followed the instructions a while ago, but I cant rememeber what I diod or where to find it11:50
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thegladiatorompaul, .ICEauthority is in home/thegladiator ? i am logged as root nowroot11:50
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butcherbirdi miss editing cups from browser :(11:50
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jhennwhats the minimum ram requirements for ubuntu to run?11:50
SeveasTengkSA, put the complete /boot/grub/menu.lst on the pastebin please11:50
crimsunsda3mon: I don't know, then.11:50
ompaulthegladiator, yes11:50
cdehaanHi111:50
ManifoldWhat audio player do you guys use?11:50
crimsunquod libet11:50
cdehaanIs there a version of ubuntuguide.org for 5.10?11:50
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sda3moncrimsun: thanks for trying anyways11:51
jhennManifold: beep-media-player11:51
jhennManifold: mpd11:51
Jrex-Linuxwhy on earth isn't xchat logging if logging in enabled?11:51
teprrrBluehorn, http://localhost:631? or was it 613..11:51
sda3monill go into debian and get the name11:51
spaceycdehaan, its in your system menu or on help.ubuntu.com11:51
jhennJrex-Linux: I think you have to restart it after to turn logging on?11:51
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Seveascdehaan, ubuntuguide.org sucks11:51
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ghbskon: I might have found a clue: Just found a thread about the WLAN card I got, and apparently it's quite sucky. =(11:52
butcherbirdManifold: i dont see the point of using beep. i just use xmms11:52
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ompaul!ubuntuguide11:52
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead11:52
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Jrex-Linuxjhenn, I turned on logging days ago11:52
ManifoldAha..11:52
ManifoldSupports media skins eh, jhenn11:53
skonghb: this could be true....some wifi cards don't work under linux at all, and some don't support APs....sorry to hear that...get a Belkin F57010 if you're on a budget (that's what I got) or get an orinoco because I hear they're awesome11:53
ManifoldSupports media skins eh, jhenn ?11:53
jhennManifold: bmp does, mpd is a daemon11:53
pysiakok, thanks all you guys, bye bye.11:53
ManifoldSomeone clinging onto their w32 legacy? ;] 11:53
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kunggn811:53
ompaulManifold, the concept of skins is quite widespread have a look at www.gnomelook.org11:54
gnomefreakgotta love walmart11:54
ghbskon: I might just have to do that. This is so crap--a built-in WLAN card and it doesn't work as it's suppose to... -_-11:54
jhennSo what is the minimum ram required for breezy?11:54
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benplautw00t!11:54
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gnomefreakjhenn,  i wouldnt go less than 12811:54
benplautnpr.org streaming works :D11:54
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TengkSASeveas, there you go11:54
ManifoldI think that server's is down?11:54
EdLinjhenn, that depends on if you're running the default GNOME2 desktop environment or not.11:54
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SeveasTengkSA, where?11:55
EdLinjhenn, GNOME (or KDE) require lots of memory.11:55
caryi finally got the boot cd to work (if anyone who has been helping me is still around) and now i am not quite sure exactly what to do at th epartitioner screen. last time i installed ubuntu i jacked up on my partitioning and id like that not to happen again. i can identify the part. i want to install the system to (/media/hda6) but how do i make the installer use that as the ubuntu drive?11:55
TengkSASeveas,  soz wait a sec11:55
benplautanyone know of a good, simple, easy to understand metacity theme in which there is no 'one pixel border' between the X and the edge of the screen? ie, fitt's law complient11:55
Seveasah there :)11:55
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TengkSASeveas,  :)\11:55
topyliompaul: i just want a good gtk2 mplayer gnome gui so i don't have to play with skins :)11:55
jhennEdLin: i just picked up for free a p2 366 with 64 ram, I'm wondering if paying $80 for 256 ram is worth it11:55
Friar_tuckdoes gnomemeeting work?11:55
Seveasok, I'll flood you in private :)11:56
odlahow do i burn a movie dvd?11:56
TengkSAhahaha11:56
jhenntopyli: mpc +mpd11:56
benplautjhenn, since when does 256 ram cost that much?!11:56
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gnomefreakjhenn, yes if your gonna run ubuntu pay the 80 more11:56
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TengkSASeveas, my hdb is simply a media hard drive my installation for win is on hda211:56
EdLinjhenn, run something like XFCE4 or fluxbox.11:56
topylijhenn: not for mplayer. otherwise, mpd is kinda cool11:56
jhennbenplaut: i don't know its old ram11:56
benplautjhenn, if you want to stick with 64, then try xfce11:56
ompaultopyli, offtopic :)11:56
Shadymanbenplaut: When it's 133mhz Dimms11:56
zool2005can anyone recommend a method of transplanting my installation from one HDD to another without reinstalling11:56
benplautahh11:56
ScootaDootaram for a PC that old is quite pricey11:56
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benplaut!xubuntu11:56
ubotufrom memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu11:56
DelvienCan anyone help me out with this http://pastebin.com/48780011:56
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caryanyone?11:56
jhennbenplaut: xubuntuu?11:56
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benplautjhenn, read what ubotu just said11:57
Friar_tuck!gnomemeeting11:57
ubotuGnomeMeeting is installed by default.  Access it via Applications -> Internet -> GnomeMeeting11:57
jhennk11:57
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Syco54645hi i was wondering if someone could help me turn dma on for my dvd and cd writer11:57
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benplautjhenn,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu11:57
benplautok, i'm outta here11:57
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carypsusi, you around?11:58
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thegladiatorompaul,  doesn't work either11:58
carycan anyone help my wiht my partition crap? seveas?11:58
psusiCarlFK, yo11:58
gnomefreakskon,  i just took it out of menu11:58
gnomefreaklol11:58
psusicary even11:58
skonheh11:58
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CarlFKpsusi: hey11:58
thegladiatorstill nautilus is behaving the same11:58
carypsusi! can you help with my partition mess? ill resend it to the chat11:58
gnomefreakCary you might have to tell us a lil more about it other than that partion crap11:59
caryi finally got the boot cd to work (if anyone who has been helping me is still around) and now i am not quite sure exactly what to do at th epartitioner screen. last time i installed ubuntu i jacked up on my partitioning and id like that not to happen again. i can identify the part. i want to install the system to (/media/hda6) but how do i make the installer use that as the ubuntu drive? psusu11:59
ghbskon: Okay, now I'm really about to start tearing my hair off: My brother got the exact same card on his laptop, and he could connect to my encrypted network... -_-11:59
thegladiatortopyli, i will try out a new user ?11:59
ompaulthegladiator, there is one thing I would consider - try a reboot11:59
carygnomefreak, see above (sent earlier)11:59
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thegladiatordid that many times11:59
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gnomefreaki saw sorry11:59
thegladiatorrestart is not the problem11:59
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thegladiatordid a shut down even11:59
thegladiator2 times11:59
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psusicary, what is unusual about your setup again?  why can't you just use the defaults?12:00

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