[12:00] <foampeace> which debian repo is comparable to breezy?
[12:00] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ I think ill just wine what I need, anyone know how well wine works with flash 8?
[12:00] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, the slang context is offensive however
[12:00] <Snurf> I have two hard drives, and i want to install ubuntu to one of them. Do I burn an image of the download from the website and boot from it? And does it give me an option which hard drive to install to?
[12:00] <hydroksyde> m4rtin, or better yet, buy a router... they just work
[12:00] <s0n1cm0nk3y> polpak, well forgive me for my tresspasses then
[12:00] <Franz> How to upgrade to kernel 2.6.14 ? by self-compiling or is there a packet to get?
[12:00] <poningru> hydroksyde: yeah dude that should work, but it will be slow
[12:00] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, certainly will
[12:00] <hydroksyde> Snurf, sure
[12:00] <hydroksyde> poningru, faster CPU maybe?
[12:00] <skon> foampeace: they are mostly incompatible, I've herard
[12:00] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, i don't know.  but if you have tips on wine'ing shockwave, my little sister will stop whining and start wine'ing. :)
[12:01] <poningru> hydroksyde: look into xubuntu
[12:01] <Snurf> It does give me the option in installation hydrosyde?
[12:01] <s0n1cm0nk3y> polpak lol ok, to correct myself, windows is being the BSOD ridden OS that it is
[12:01] <hydroksyde> Snurf, yeah, it does
[12:01] <Snurf> ok ty
[12:01] <MickMcMack> Why do I have "sister" on highlight? O_o;
[12:01] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, indeed
[12:01] <ompaul> s0n1cm0nk3y, it was a bit morelike this: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ <-- we try to encourage this
[12:01] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: well I have tried 'sudo dhclient eth0' command and configuring it with KDE's own tools but still no connection
[12:01] <foampeace> skon: if you went debian which repo would you pick?
[12:01] <blkknyght> Hi all. I am trying to install ubuntu to a Dell Poweredge server with megaraid, but it won't detect the drives.
[12:01] <m4rtin> hydroksyde: it's not my pc, and therefore, I dont deside what they should buy. But a router is a quite good sulution. Not so expensie.
[12:01] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, clever, did you apt-get flash
[12:01] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, wine works very well for many things
[12:01] <Pygi> !patience
[12:01] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:01] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ had to catch myself, Im on my gentoob ox right now, and I was about to say emerge
[12:01] <s0n1cm0nk3y> lol
[12:01] <poningru> Franz: you kinda have to compile it yourself
[12:01] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, shockwave != flash, right?
[12:01] <skon> foampeace: you mean under Debian or under Ubuntu
[12:02] <hydroksyde> m4rtin, yeah, routers just work. So do serial modems
[12:02] <foampeace> skon: debian like a breezy
[12:02] <eric_> I tried to reinstall but I get "E: Invalid operation
[12:02] <Franz> poningru, thanks. This means, there is no way to get it by apt-get....
[12:02] <foampeace> what in debian is closest to breezy
[12:02] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, I prefer to use the winehq repos to the universe ones as they are more up to date, but it's a personal preference
[12:02] <poningru> Franz: you can wait till april 06
[12:02] <skon> foampeace: breezy is based off debian
[12:02] <nalioth> foampeace: the source code
[12:03] <poningru> Franz: it will be availble in apt-get then
[12:03] <s0n1cm0nk3y> ompaul, ah, well forgive me then, I used to use ubuntu, but havent really gotten back to it, im still working around distros, as for homosexuality, no issues there, I am quite open minded, and have a gay amigo, so please, try not to typecast me
[12:03] <andrew_> foampeace, i think ubuntu exists as a debian-based distro precisely because it's not like debian. :)  seriously though, i dunno.
[12:03] <skon> wayyy off topic dudes
[12:03] <Franz> aha - ok till april will not wait ;-), will compile it  - thanks for your helping!
[12:03] <Pygi> andrew: huh :))))))))))
[12:03] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ if your talking about playing shockwave or flash games, then yes, Ive had it work for some, any chance you can tell me what shes whining about?
[12:03] <SteveStevings> anyone know how to install a font? (ive tried copying it into .fonts and restarting but my font doesnt show up...)
[12:03] <poningru> Franz: look around wiki.ubuntu.com it should have some helpfull hints
[12:04] <Pygi> ubotu tell SteveStevings about fonts
[12:04] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i'm using vlc, and all wmv/asf stuff seems to only play the audio, any ideas?
[12:04] <sexcopter8000m> i have w32 deb installed
[12:04] <Franz> will do! Have a nice time..
[12:04] <Pygi> there Steve :)
[12:04] <arnuvis> #santiago
[12:04] <Franz> bye..
[12:04] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, she's not really whining; that only served the pun.  but she likes internet games, specifically one called "save the sherriff".
[12:04] <Pygi> copter: !patience
[12:04] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: maybe you know how I could get my connection working under kubuntu, I have a router (dsl+router)
[12:04] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ and as for the windowss dilemma, Im going to get rid of anyways next time I install gentoo, which might be soon considering the fact that I think i screwed up somewhere i user permission sets, either that or the system fudged up, because its even restricting root
[12:04] <skon> Is it true there is no support for Shockwave under linux?
[12:04] <Pygi> Lightenin: I have the same router....
[12:05] <Manifold> Hey, do the w32 codecs only work with MPlayer?
[12:05] <nalioth> skon: at this time, yes.
[12:05] <polpak> Manifold, no
[12:05] <napstar567> hey guys am having a little trouble with mplayer
[12:05] <skon> nalioth: does that include flash?
[12:05] <Manifold> What about amarok?
[12:05] <nalioth> Manifold: they work with any player that uses mplayer engine
[12:05] <polpak> Manifold, they work with totem-xine as well
[12:05] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ im guessing this save the sheriff is on a collaborative website, such as albino blacksheep, all funny stuff, or ebaums world?
[12:05] <sexcopter8000m> Pygi, ???
[12:05] <Pygi> Lightenin: connected with regular ethernet cable , and it worked out of the box once I set up the ethernet interface :
[12:05] <ankerklanker> in system admin networking try setting up for dhcp
[12:05] <nalioth> skon: flash works if you have an x86 box
[12:05] <Pygi> !patience
[12:05] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:05] <sexcopter8000m> !patience
[12:05] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, it's on primarygames.com... i'll get you a URL if you want.
[12:05] <Pygi> no, do not abuse it copter
[12:06] <skon> nalioth: I can look at flash movies, but they have no sound. off the top of your head is there any known problem with this or is it my configuration?
[12:06] <yoni> how can I get the TIFF dev lib?
[12:06] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ sure fire it away
[12:06] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: interesting, I'm using kubuntu live cd and it just wont work
[12:06] <polpak> skon, I've heard of it happining before, but I'm not sure why
[12:06] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ what browser is she using btw?
[12:06] <nalioth> skon: i've seen the question asked in here often, have seen no solution presented (you might ask crim$sun, when he is around)
[12:06] <polpak> skon, flash plays fine with sound on all of my systems
[12:06] <Pygi> lightenin: huh, not the live cd :/ it is known not to work under live cd....
[12:06] <skon> nalioth: okay thought so...thanks
[12:06] <napstar567> can someone tell me why my audio and video do not sync
[12:06] <gerald-volt> is theer a program similar to dap for linux?
[12:06] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, well, we're on FF that installed with ubuntu.  but i could put opera or something else on too.
[12:06] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: not at all?
[12:07] <Pygi> lightenin: don't you have kubuntu/ubuntu installed?
[12:07] <Pygi> nop
[12:07] <skon> gerald-volt: you mean download accelerator plus?
[12:07] <jackobill> help I can't get in my main user anymore... I get this as error : http://pastebin.com/486469
[12:07] <gerald-volt> skon: yes
[12:07] <poningru> napstar567: you mean all audio/vid?
[12:07] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ , I use firefox too, I was just checking to make sure we had the same browswer
[12:07] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: no I don't have.. yet, just wanted to check out first
[12:07] <s0n1cm0nk3y> browser*
[12:07] <Pygi> .
[12:07] <skon> gerald-volt: there are plenty of similar extentions for firefox you can download off their site
[12:07] <Pygi> lightenin: it will work with installed version for sure....
[12:07] <gerald-volt> aight
[12:08] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: okay, thanks :)
[12:08] <Pygi> np
[12:08] <Pygi> now I go away :)
[12:08] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ speaking of firefox, i wonder why neither gentoo, debian, or ubuntu have taken it out of testing yet
[12:08] <polpak> jackobill, sounds like you need to reconfig your X server, and/or possibly your tcp settings
[12:08] <Opaza> Elzer Strae 2  4
[12:08] <napstar567> i mean the sound is faster than the video
[12:08] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: thanks to you too, I guess I'm installing it then
[12:08] <jackobill> polpak : how?
[12:08] <polpak> jackobill, you can log into your accound via the console by using ctrl-alt-f1
[12:08] <ibmnotebook> iwlist scan funktioniert mit meiner wlan karte. signal in gnome wird aber immer mit 0 angezeigt... wieso?
[12:08] <poningru> LiGhTeNiN: yep sorry couldnt help more
[12:09] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, i use arch personally and it's generally pretty current with versions (no release schedule, much like gentoo) and it doesn't have it either.
[12:09] <poningru> s0n1cm0nk3y: its because too much depend on it
[12:09] <Opaza> ubuntu crashes so often! waht can i do?
[12:09] <s0n1cm0nk3y> poningru, ah
[12:09] <nalioth> !de
[12:09] <ubotu> well, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:09] <napstar567> upgrade
[12:09] <jackobill> polpak : yes, but how do reconfig X server and tcp?
[12:09] <ibmnotebook> iwlist scan works with wifi card. why does the graphical interface always tell me, that the signal is 0?
[12:09] <polpak> Opaza, look to your hardware.. I have had no crashes with Ubuntu
[12:09] <poningru> s0n1cm0nk3y: once 1.9 comes out and xulrunner can be run without firefox...
[12:09] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ ah, i was talking to someone about archs package system, Im a big fan of apt-get and portage myself
[12:09] <poningru> Opaza: what hardware are you running?
[12:10] <Opaza> polpak: it's new hardware, it's on the compatibility-list
[12:10] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, i am too, but i hated compiling.  we're way OT here... feel free to PM me.
[12:10] <napstar567> can someone tell me how to tweak mplayer to sync my a/v
[12:10] <s0n1cm0nk3y> polpak Opaza, I had issues with lag on ubuntu
[12:10] <nalioth> !offtopic
[12:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:10] <ibmnotebook> is there any wlan management or installation software for ubuntu (gnome)
[12:10] <poningru> Opaza: what do you mean crashing?
[12:10] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, as for the game URL, it's http://www.primarygames.com/arcade/savesheriff/index.htm
[12:10] <Opaza> kernel panic
[12:10] <poningru> ibmnotebook: plenty, wifiradar etc.
[12:11] <andrew_> Opaza, default kernel or did you roll your own?
[12:11] <polpak> Opaza, well that's definately indicitive of hardware misconfiguration or damage
[12:11] <Opaza> default kernel
[12:11] <poningru> Opaza: thats weird, its porbably hardware damage, most likely mem
[12:11] <Opaza> windows doesn't crash on teh same system. why?
[12:11] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ yeah same problem for me on that game, as for compiling, meh, I just emerge huge stuff like xorg overnight, or during a movie, my systems fast enough to get stuff done in good time
[12:11] <chris__> does anyone know how i could get an older version of ubuntu with the 2.4 kernel...  I just installed breezy, but the only sound card driver that i can find that will work for me only supports the 2.4 kernel
[12:11] <napstar567> hey poningru: do you know any tweak that can help me mplayer perform better
[12:12] <nowlin> reboot
[12:12] <ibmnotebook> poningru does wifiradar also help me to resolve my wifi problems? or does it need a working configuration?
[12:12] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, i don't think getting wine to work with it would be worth it. :)
[12:12] <poningru> ibmnotebook: it would need a working config
[12:12] <jackobill> how can I reconfigure my xserver?
[12:12] <poningru> napstar567: whats wrong with it?, jerky playing etc.?
[12:12] <teprrr> hmm, where are the development stuff of dapper drake going on?
[12:12] <napstar567> yep
[12:13] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ any chance you know a good open source flash prog?
[12:13] <andrew_> jackobill, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[12:13] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, no idea.
[12:13] <Snurf> Is ubuntu compatible with WiFi? Will it work with my Internal wireless network card?
[12:13] <napstar567> the audio is faster than the video
[12:13] <Opaza> http://happy.new.year.mrdelayer.com/
[12:13] <andrew_> Snurf, most likely, depends on the driver for your card.
[12:13] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ that sucks, oh well, as for your shockwave dilemma, check the forums, maybe someone can help you find a work around
[12:13] <Snurf> Ok
[12:13] <poningru> napstar567: try another vid player like vlc
[12:13] <ibmnotebook> poningru what can i do when "iwlist scan" works, but the card not?
[12:13] <poningru> ibmnotebook: have you looked through the wifi page?
[12:13] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, good idea.  i just gave up personally, but my sister would sure appreciate it. :)
[12:13] <poningru> !wifi
[12:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:14] <napstar567> you think that will help?
[12:14] <v0taguz> hi
[12:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, im taking it that shes a little sister?
[12:14] <napstar567> cause i also tried totem xine and i get the same result
[12:14] <poningru> napstar567: yeah vlc is sometimes a LOT better
[12:14] <v0taguz> somebody help me to configure Gtalk in Gaim?
[12:14] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, yup, 9.
[12:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, good luck with that amigo
[12:14] <ibmnotebook> poningru different ones
[12:14] <Opaza> v0tagz: yes
[12:14] <v0taguz> o
[12:14] <v0taguz> Opaza,
[12:14] <v0taguz> help me please
[12:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ i personally dont have a little sister by blood, but I do have a bunch of girls who consider me their big bro
[12:15] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, my mom *loved* the fact that there's a gnome sudoku game but my sis is not quite interested in that. :-P
[12:15] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, nice. :)  sisters are great... most of the time. :)
[12:15] <s0n1cm0nk3y> andrew_ lol, ah, my dads biggest concern was can I check my mail?, can I open word documents? lol, and yeah they can be, I have a big sister, Im the little one in the family, though being 18 right now im not really little
[12:15] <polpak> s0n1cm0nk3y, you talking about tetrivex?
[12:16] <s0n1cm0nk3y> polpak ?
[12:16] <eric_ubuntu> do u know a program that works with a web cam??
[12:16] <gerald-volt> Anyone know a similar program to bufallo for the hc11 micro-controller?
[12:16] <nalioth> andrew_: s0n1cm0nk3y: #ubuntu-offtopic awaits you
[12:16] <andrew_> s0n1cm0nk3y, yeah, i'm 22, so the difference... well, makes a difference. :)
[12:16] <v0taguz> Opaza,
[12:16] <andrew_> nalioth, sorry.
[12:16] <v0taguz> you know how configure it
[12:17] <s0n1cm0nk3y> nalioth, lol, sorry, but anyways, off, thanks for the help andrew_
[12:17] <Sturgeon> The default program to see pictures that gnome uses (EOG) doesn't recognize the format jpg (it tries to open it but it says it's an unknown filetype). What should I do about this?
[12:17] <polpak> Sturgeon, eog does recognize jpg files
[12:17] <polpak> Sturgeon, most likely the file is missnamed
[12:17] <Sturgeon> Not here.
[12:17] <Sturgeon> Nope, i tried with several files
[12:18] <cafuego> Sturgeon: Open  aterminal, find the file, type 'file <filename>'
[12:18] <polpak> Sturgeon, gthumb works too
[12:18] <Sturgeon> i can open it with any other image viewer
[12:18] <Sturgeon> like gthumb
[12:18] <Sturgeon> the problem is with EOG
[12:18] <polpak> Sturgeon, did you do as cafuego suggested?
[12:19] <yaaar> hey guys, are there really any soundcards out there that can can give me digital 5.1 output under linux? i'm having trouble finding any in the alsa matrix...
[12:19] <Opaza> v0tagut: i can give u a good link, that works!
[12:19] <yaaar> for instance, the notes suggest that the alsa drivers don't support the digital outputs on even a single model of creative labs cards.....that doesn't seem right, does it?
[12:20] <yaaar> you can see what i mean here: http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix
[12:20] <Sturgeon> i can't do that
[12:20] <Opaza> v0taguz: Still here?
[12:20] <v0taguz> yes
[12:20] <Sturgeon> i found what the problem is, i'm trying to open a file from another computer which is accessed by samba
[12:20] <[cro] smiley> hi all
[12:20] <Sturgeon> apparently eog doen't like that
[12:20] <polpak> Sturgeon, how odd
[12:20] <v0taguz> pass me the link Opaza
[12:21] <polpak> Sturgeon, did you mount the remote directory via smbfs, or is it using nautelus' vfs
[12:21] <Sturgeon> i went to places->network servers
[12:21] <cary> alright...i need some help.
[12:22] <Opaza> v0taguz: http://tinyurl.com/af4v7
[12:22] <polpak> Sturgeon, you should check out smbfs + smb4k
[12:22] <polpak> Sturgeon, it actually mounts the directories to your home dir
[12:23] <[cro] smiley> How to run Warcraft3 with wine? I get error message: "Warcraft III was unable to find a CD-key."
[12:23] <Sturgeon> yeah, i've been trying to do that but i was unable
[12:23] <Sturgeon> i have problems
[12:23] <cafuego> NFS is nice
[12:23] <cary> i CANNOT for my life (3 different optical drives) get my PC to boot from cd with the ubuntu disk. it used to say a checksum error. installed a dvd-r drive, now it skips cd boot..it acts like its wants to then skips it. i am trying to configure my mac paowerbook to be recoganized as PXE to network boot to isntall ubuntu. any help?
[12:23] <polpak> [cro] smiley, you need to use winecfg to set your cdrom drive to type cdrom rather than automatic or local hard drive
[12:23] <Sturgeon> someone told me to use mount //server/share -t smbfs /mountpoint
[12:23] <Sturgeon> but that doesn't seem to work
[12:23] <Opaza> http://tinyurl.com/af4v7
[12:23] <polpak> Sturgeon, other way around
[12:24] <[cro] smiley> polpak, thx ill try
[12:24] <StyxAlso> Has anyone here tried to install mysql under Breezy? I get an error about dependencies on libdbi-perl.
[12:24] <pinkisntwell> cary: it's obviously the cd to blame
[12:24] <polpak> Sturgeon, mount -t smbfs //server/share /mountpoint
[12:24] <Sturgeon> i tried that :)
[12:24] <Draken> how do i make stuff start up? Like commands,
[12:25] <[cro] smiley> polpak, i did but nothing changes
[12:25] <polpak> Sturgeon, be sure you apt-get installed smbfs
[12:25] <Sturgeon> polpak: no success
[12:25] <bobbyd> hi
[12:25] <Sturgeon> lsmod shows smbfs
[12:25] <polpak> Sturgeon, that doesn't matter
[12:25] <Sturgeon> oh ok
[12:25] <bobbyd> does anyone here have real producer 11 working under ubuntu?
[12:25] <polpak> Sturgeon, that just means the kernel supports it you need the binary progs to mount
[12:25] <bobbyd> I tried to install it but the installer is broken
[12:26] <MickMcMack> Ahoy!
[12:26] <Sturgeon> oh...
[12:26] <Sturgeon> :D
[12:26] <Draken> how do i make stuff start up? Like commands,
[12:26] <Sturgeon> So what does it mean that lsmod shows the smbfs module?
[12:26] <polpak> Sturgeon, and I'd suggest apt-get smb4k
[12:26] <Sturgeon> (apparently it wasnt installed, you're right)
[12:26] <polpak> Sturgeon, just that the kernel knows how to deal with it
[12:26] <MickMcMack> Asking for a friend here, when he attempts to remove gij-4.0, it tells him it will uninstall oo and ubuntu-desktop. He needs Sun java1.5 however - so what can he do?
[12:26] <cary> pinkisntwell, well i have reburned the cd like 100 times. even reburned it at 1x
[12:27] <polpak> Sturgeon, you have to have kernel support for the binary progs to work
[12:27] <[cro] smiley> polpak, maybe the problem is that i have installed war3 on d drive not the c?
[12:27] <Sturgeon> polpak: i installed smbfs. It worked perfectly now.
[12:27] <Sturgeon> Thanks a lot.
[12:27] <jdcaserockies> How do i mke a canon IP 1600 work?
[12:27] <pinkisntwell> cary: maybe it's a problem with the iso, did you check it against its md5 sum?
[12:28] <mwe> configuring my AP I need my MAC address. is this the same that ifconfig calls HWaddr?
[12:28] <bobbyd> mwe, yes
[12:28] <mwe> thanks
[12:28] <polpak> Sturgeon, sure thing
[12:28] <cary> pinkisntwell, well i cant figure out how to do that. im going to redownload the iso and reburn it one  more time. how can i md5 it
[12:28] <jdcaserockies> Anyone know how to make a Canon IP 1600 work?
[12:28] <bobbyd> jdcaserockies, `what is it? a camera?
[12:28] <yaaar> can anyone recommend a soundcard that will give me spdif or toslink 5.1 output in ubuntu? hopefully cheap ;-)
[12:28] <psusi> cary, from in ubuntu?  md5sum foo.iso
[12:29] <cary> psusi, no, from windows 2000
[12:29] <cary> psusi, i cant get ubuntu to install...sort of the problem
[12:29] <jdcaserockies> bobbyd, it's a printer
[12:29] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: proprietary drivers from canon in Japan
[12:29] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: Let me get you a HOWTO, just a moment.
[12:30] <Smoked1> is there a better ftp client then gftp? gftp sucks
[12:30] <psusi> cary, google for "fastsum" it's an md5 sum generator for windows
[12:30] <nik__> hey is anyone here using their ipod with Ubuntu?
[12:30] <cafuego> nik__: yes
[12:30] <pinkisntwell> i'm sure you can find plenty of md5 checkers for windows. do a search
[12:30] <nik__> if so what software?
[12:30] <bobbyd> jdcaserockies, have you installed the cups package and tried just plugging it in?
[12:30] <cary> psusi, thanks
[12:30] <cafuego> bobbyd: not supported
[12:30] <bobbyd> cafuego, ahh
[12:30] <jdcaserockies> bobbyd, cups in installed if thats what you mean and it doesn't have toe right fdrober
[12:30] <cafuego> same issue
[12:30] <jdcaserockies> the right driver**
[12:30] <cafuego> (working fine now tho)
[12:30] <bobbyd> jdcaserockies, in that case, eityher wait for a driver (check the status of that) or buy another printer :)
[12:31] <nik__> so what software should I use for the ipod?
[12:31] <cafuego> bobbyd: Canon has released drivers,
[12:31] <cafuego> nik__: gtkpod seems to work
[12:31] <D1> Smoked1, there is filezilla for linux that is OK..
[12:31] <nik__> ty
[12:31] <D1> also
[12:31] <pinkisntwell> cary: tell us your results
[12:31] <D1> there is IglooFTPD
[12:31] <D1> but its not free.
[12:31] <D1> although a good gtk2 client.
[12:31] <jdcaserockies> cafuego, where can I find these released drivers
[12:32] <Smoked1> D1: Ill give it a shot
[12:32] <Smoked1> gftp just really sucks ass
[12:32] <cary> pinkisntwell, will do. itll take some time though. ive got 2 more hours of ISO downloading
[12:32] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: Have a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38995
[12:32] <D1> yeah, it does.
[12:32] <pinkisntwell> cary: don't you have the iso already?
[12:33] <D1> its one of the only alternatives unfortuantely.
[12:33] <cary> pinkisntwell, yeah..i guess i could just md5 the one i have. haha.
[12:33] <Draken> !resulation
[12:33] <ubotu> Draken: No idea
[12:33] <Draken> erf
[12:33] <Draken> spelling
[12:33] <D1> http://gnomedesktop.org/node/2540
[12:33] <D1> screensots from filezilla
[12:33] <D1> its wxgtk
[12:33] <pinkisntwell> cary: you're confusing me, you said you'd burned it
[12:33] <Linfan> my wifi led is not working is there a workaround for it in ubuntu
[12:33] <D1> but its adequiate, still alpha
[12:33] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: A company called 'powerprint' have also written drivers, but they are *payware*
[12:33] <pinkisntwell> cary: check the one you burned
[12:33] <D1> I'd recommend igloo its pretty spiffy.
[12:34] <Linfan> Does ubuntu have eye candy effects?
[12:34] <Linfan> drop shadow tec
[12:34] <bobesponja> hey all
[12:35] <Draken> !resolution
[12:35] <ubotu> methinks resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:35] <pinkisntwell> Linfan: it does, you'll have to enable them though
[12:35] <cafuego> Linfan: If you enable the memory-leaking X estensions, yes.
[12:35] <bobesponja> I'm trying drapper now, does anyone has problem with locales_2.3.7-2_all.deb while upgrading?
[12:35] <jdcaserockies> cafuego, the thread i looked at doesn't look like it supports the 1600, but should i try to compile for the 1500? Also, what;s the payware site just out of curiosity
[12:35] <Linfan> how do i enable them? im on a intel integrated graphics laptop will they still work?
[12:35] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: Looking for the payware site.... for the 1500 you will most likely indeed need to compile the source package :-(
[12:36] <andres> algun proghrama que sea bueno para grabar cd?
[12:36] <jdcaserockies> cafuego, ick      maybe I'll just go looking for another printer then...
[12:36] <bobesponja> andres: ubuntu-es
[12:36] <bobesponja> andres: #ubuntu-es
[12:36] <andres> :S
[12:36] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: The 3000 is nice ;-)
[12:36] <andres> ok
[12:37] <Draken> u guys know ubuntu`s founder is from south Africa :P
[12:37] <cafuego> Draken: Yes, we know.
[12:37] <Manifold> I didn't.
[12:37] <Linfan> no wonder he named it ubuntu
[12:37] <Draken> ya :P
[12:37] <jdcaserockies> cafuego, i'm a little low on funds now, that's my problem       Do you think you might be able to help me with an old officejet printer perhaps?
[12:37] <Linfan> ubuntu rules
[12:37] <Linfan> fock xp
[12:37] <nik__> indeed
[12:38] <cafuego> Mind your language.
[12:38] <Draken> i think we should be able to swear, if windows is in the sentence ?
[12:38] <Draken> :P
[12:38] <nik__> lol
[12:38] <ajmitch> nope
[12:38] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: http://www.turboprint.info/
[12:38] <Mr_Milenko> what if we swear in binary
[12:38] <Linfan> martha fockers over at microsoft need to learn how to develop a stable and reliable os
[12:38] <Mr_Milenko> or a ancient language
[12:38] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[12:39] <StyxAlso> Then you'll be lame _and_ rude
[12:39] <grayman> like hebrew?
[12:39] <nik__> hey are there any good p2p programs for ubuntu?
[12:39] <grayman> mutella is good
[12:39] <Mr_Milenko> what about Ancient Greek
[12:39] <Mr_Milenko> or Latin
[12:39] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[12:39] <riddlebox> I like gtk-gnutella
[12:39] <Chousuke> Latin curses.
[12:39] <nalioth> !offtopic
[12:39] <ubotu> offtopic is, like, totally, Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:39] <Linfan> so can anybody help me with "how to have the wifi led on my laptop working?
[12:39] <dark_one> i'm just compiling a new kernel on breezy and im getting huge numbers of warnings that the same kernel source didnt produce befroe i upgraded to breezy is this going to be a problem?
[12:39] <Mr_Milenko> LIES! I get yelled at for cursing in offtopic
[12:39] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[12:39] <grayman> gtk? hah
[12:39] <grayman> you can turn on web interface
[12:40] <Linfan> so how do i enable drop shadow?
[12:40] <jdcaserockies> cafuego, thanks, but the 1600 still isnt in their list; I wonder if it's too new to be looking for a driver?
[12:40] <PeteyPablo> get up come on get down with the sickness
[12:40] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: The 1600 is a 1500.
[12:40] <Linfan> i think that and the 3ddesktop i have will just leave people in awe
[12:41] <ibmnotebook> need a deb for "wifiradar", ubuntu 5.10
[12:41] <PeteyPablo> Linfan: 3ddesktop ?
[12:41] <cafuego> jdcaserockies: Just renumbered for a foreign market. My 3000 is called a 3100 elsewhere.
[12:41] <jdcaserockies> cafuego, ahhh      ok then, maybe i'll just bite the bullet and compile from source, even though i'll have absolutely no idea what I'm doing
[12:41] <Linfan> 3ddesktop lets you switch from diffrent workspaces in a 3d enviroment
[12:42] <noirequus> jdcaserockies: depending on what you are compiling, apt-get can do it for you
[12:42] <jenda-zZz> nik__: Frostwire and the torrent network (client = Azureus) are the best.
[12:42] <jdcaserockies> noirequus, trying to install a canon IP1500 printer
[12:42] <poningru> while the torrent network is the best
[12:42] <PeteyPablo> jenda-zZz: agreed
[12:42] <poningru> azureus as a client is not a good one
[12:42] <psusi> passion even
[12:43] <PeteyPablo> LOL? azureus is very good
[12:43] <Linfan> where can i get limewire pro for linux
[12:43] <poningru> um right, bloatware
[12:43] <poningru> Linfan: try donkey
[12:43] <jenda-zZz> Linfan: Chuck the wiki :)
[12:43] <StyxAlso> Has anyone successfully installed MySQL under Breezy?
[12:43] <psusi> StyxAlso, yes... clicked install and that was it
[12:43] <Acidic32> how do i open multiple ports in one go using iptables?
[12:44] <Linfan> edonkey?
[12:44] <Madpilot> StyxAlso: yes
[12:44] <pinkisntwell> I noticed that azureus is very slow in linux
[12:44] <Madpilot> !tell StyxAlso about apache
[12:44] <jenda-zZz> for Limewire... but googling for Frostwire will let you get rid of the ads
[12:44] <psusi> Acidic32, they are all open by default
[12:44] <dark_one> StyxAlso: yes apt-get install mysql
[12:44] <redguy> StyxAlso: why won't you ask your real questiom?
[12:44] <psusi> pinkisntwell, it's very slow on any OS... it's made in Java
[12:44] <poningru> Linfan: search for donkey in synaptic
[12:44] <pinkisntwell> psusi: i used it in windows and it wasnt that slow
[12:44] <Acidic32> there not on my install, its locked down..
[12:44] <psusi> pinkisntwell, I watched a friend use it in windows... it was most definately slow... try bit tornado
[12:45] <pinkisntwell> i'm thinking of going back to the deafult btdownload
[12:45] <psusi> by slow I don't mean the downloads either... I mean the app hogged memory and responded to the UI slowly
[12:45] <StyxAlso> When I try to 'apt-get install mysql-4.1' I get Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable
[12:45] <poningru> in windows abc is pretty good, try rufus in gnome, ktorrent in kde
[12:45] <psusi> the gnome btdownload sucks too... it is insultingly simple... cant config it at all or get details on what is going on
[12:45] <poningru> psusi: there are plans to add rufus
[12:45] <psusi> bit tornado is simple, but you can configure it and get details
[12:45] <poningru> psusi: try ktorrent
[12:46] <Bizzeh> hey, how is ubuntu's wireless support?
[12:46] <poningru> Bizzeh: pretty good
[12:46] <pinkisntwell> anyone had problems downloading with btdownload?
[12:46] <poningru> !wifi
[12:46] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:46] <Bizzeh> especialy the ralink rt2500 chipset
[12:46] <psusi> hrm... rufus eh?
[12:46] <poningru> Bizzeh: out of box support
[12:46] <Bizzeh> YES!
[12:46] <Manifold> Maths question!
[12:46] <Bizzeh> <3
[12:46] <Manifold> I have a 9x9 matrix
[12:47] <Chousuke> matrices! yay.
[12:47] <Manifold> If I can rotate each one around four faces
[12:47] <Manifold> How many combinations are there?
[12:47] <poningru> Bizzeh: make sure you start up the computer with the device plugged in
[12:47] <Manifold> I can also rearrange it.
[12:47] <poningru> !offtopic
[12:47] <ubotu> offtopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[12:47] <Acidic32> how do i open multiple ports in one go using iptables?
[12:47] <mwe> Manifold: 4^81
[12:48] <StyxAlso> Manifold, #math is a good place to ask questions like that
[12:48] <Bizzeh> do i want dapper or breezy?
[12:48] <psusi> Acidic32, unless you closed some in the first place, they are all already open
[12:48] <psusi> Bizzeh, depends... do you want something that works, or do you enjoy beta testing?
[12:48] <Bizzeh> both
[12:49] <psusi> well, if you are feeling adventeruous, give dapper a try... just don't be surprised when it breaks
[12:49] <redguy> Bizzeh: you want both then
[12:49] <mwe> Bizzeh: in that case you need to machines
[12:49] <psusi> I've been running dapper exclusively for over a month
[12:49] <Bizzeh> what version number is breezy?
[12:49] <Manifold> mwe, how did you get that?
[12:49] <psusi> but sometimes things break
[12:49] <psusi> and I have breezy installed on another partition just in case
[12:49] <poningru> Bizzeh: dapper is dev, breezy is stable
[12:50] <poningru> Bizzeh: breezy is 5.10
[12:50] <Manifold> "I have a 9x9 matrix, squares numbered 1-9. Each face of any square is different, and I can rearrange the squares in any order, how many combinations are there?"
[12:50] <saerdnaer> hi
[12:50] <DonL> Happy New Year
[12:50] <saerdnaer> is there also a german channel?
[12:50] <poningru> !de
[12:50] <ubotu> methinks de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:50] <psusi> saerdnaer, -de
[12:50] <siglappy> is there a howto on using 'suspend to ram' for 5.10 ?
[12:51] <saerdnaer> danke ;-)
[12:51] <StyxAlso> When I try to 'apt-get install mysql-4.1' I get 'Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable'.
[12:51] <psusi> siglappy, yes... check out the howto section of the forums and wiki
[12:51] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know how to install new themes? i tried Ssytem -> Prefferences -> Themes and it says invalid file format on it
[12:51] <siglappy> ah ok thanks psusi
[12:51] <ibmnotebook> need deb file for wifiradar
[12:51] <Mazin> My GRUB bootloader is giving Error 17 on startup
[12:51] <Mazin> does anyone know how to fix GRUB?
[12:52] <bakpao> ibmnotebook : apt-get install wifi-radar
[12:52] <redguy> !info libdbi-perl
[12:52] <ubotu> libdbi-perl: (Perl5 database interface by Tim Bunce), section perl, is optional. Version: 1.48-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 598 kB, Installed size: 1592 kB
[12:53] <mwe> Manifold: there are 9*9=81 fields. if you had 1 there would be 4 combinations. if you had two it would be 4 for each of the four first ones = 4*4=4^2 for 3 fields you would have another 4 for each of the previous combinations would so that would be 4*4*4=4^3 so for 81 fields it's 4^81
[12:53] <ThePyromaniac> anyone install themes? :(#
[12:53] <ibmnotebook> bakpao wifi-radar: package not found
[12:54] <mwe> ThePyromaniac: themes for what?
[12:54] <Bizzeh> grabbin the amd64 dvd now :)
[12:54] <ThePyromaniac> gnome themes. i downloaded some off gnome-look.org and tried instructions on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107022 but no luck
[12:54] <Bizzeh> ubuntu is stable enough on amd64 isnt it?
[12:54] <redguy> StyxAlso: which version of libdbi-perl does mysql-4.1 depend on?
[12:54] <mwe> ibmnotebook: you need universe enabled to get wifi-radar
[12:54] <dittmar> hello
[12:55] <ThePyromaniac> mwe gcursor doesnt install themes like they said, and the systems -> prefferences -> themes doesnt work
[12:55] <gnomefreak> ThePyromaniac, did you try art.gnome.org there is a app for it in synaptic :))
[12:55] <ibmnotebook> mwe how can i enable universe?
[12:56] <Draken> anyone know a good download manager ?
[12:56] <mwe> !universe
[12:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:56] <sockpuppe1> how do I regenerate my fstab
[12:56] <mwe> sockpuppe1: type in the info you need in the file
[12:56] <bakpao> ibm : edit your /etc/apt/source.list
[12:57] <sockpuppe1> mwe  i just put in locations?
[12:57] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak, i will try
[12:57] <mwe> sockpuppe1: and next time you mess with it make a backup first
[12:57] <psusi> SockerFot, with a text editor
[12:57] <ibmnotebook> bakpao... but what source can i add?
[12:57] <SockerFot> psusi aaah, right?!
[12:57] <ibmnotebook> mwe hm... "!universe" and nothing happens :)
[12:57] <mwe> ibmnotebook: please follow the link ubotu posted
[12:57] <sockpuppe1> mwe I was trying to fix my usb and deleted that
[12:57] <Draken> guys, how do i get mplayer for ubuntu ?????
[12:57] <andrew_> i have my windows partition set up to automount, but now it always shows on the desktop.  i like that for removable media, but is there any way to remove that for specific drives?
[12:57] <bakpao> in that file there must be a universe rep you just have to uncomment the line
[12:58] <psusi> andrew_, yea, don't mount it in /media
[12:58] <mwe> sockpuppe1: you should _always_ make a backup before editing an important system file
[12:58] <Draken> !mplayer
[12:58] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[12:58] <andrew_> psusi, hmm, seems easy enough.  i'll give it a whirl; thanks. :)
[12:58] <sockpuppe1> mwe so all i do is enter the location of the drives?
[12:58] <redguy> !tell ibmnotebook about universe
[12:58] <Xer0_h4x> Draken: you dont need to compile it
[12:59] <ANTEEY```> SockerFot
[12:59] <ANTEEY```> ^^
[12:59] <SockerFot> ANTEEY``` YEAH
[12:59] <ANTEEY```> freebase
[12:59] <mwe> sockpuppe1: as well as mount point and mount options like in the other entries in the file
[12:59] <bakpao> does anyone has a good pdf book for shell script programming
[01:00] <Pygi> !patience
[01:00] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[01:00] <psusi> bakpao, try "info bash"
[01:00] <gnomefreak> abs is a good bash scripting guide
[01:00] <Pygi> what is kernel?
[01:01] <Chousuke> Pygi: a kernel is the core of the OS.
[01:01] <Pygi> Chousuke: really? what is a OS?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> abs is in synaptic and its very good :)
[01:01] <andrew_> Pygi, you've gone mad, man!
[01:01] <redguy> bakpao: search www.tldp.org for bash scripting
[01:01] <Pygi> andrew: huh, who are you? :P
[01:01] <Chousuke> Pygi: well, some say an OS is the kernel, and some that an OS is a kernel and some basic userland utilities :)
[01:02] <Hericus> Pygi, smile.
[01:02] <redguy> bakpao: also there was a cycle of good articles in the linux journal
[01:02] <Pygi> Chousuke: huh, I don't understand a bit what you say :/ Is kernel for eat?
[01:02] <Chousuke> heh.
[01:02] <Chousuke> apple kernels can be eaten, even though they contain cyanide.
[01:02] <Madpilot> Pygi: in Linux, the kernel is the core of the operating system
[01:03] <Chousuke> or hm
[01:03] <Kyral> in ANYTHING
[01:03] <Kyral> err
[01:03] <Pygi> Madpilot: huh, core?
[01:03] <Chousuke> Madpilot: Linux _is_ the kernel
[01:03] <Bizzeh> Chousuke: what?
[01:03] <Kyral> any OS the Kernel is the CORE
[01:03] <andrew_> psusi, good deal.  i'll restart again just to be sure everything will work alright.  thanks!
[01:03] <Pygi> what is a core?
[01:03] <Kyral> Pygi: lemme explain it this way
[01:03] <Bizzeh> what was that about apples and cyanide
[01:03] <ThePyromaniac> guys, i cant get GNOME Art package to work, get stupid dependancy errors for ruby
[01:03] <Kyral> Pygi: When you save something, the program tells the kernel to write to the disk
[01:03] <Madpilot> Chousuke: yeah, true, but too accurate for our purposes right now :P
[01:03] <Chousuke> Bizzeh: I think I said it wrong.
[01:03] <sockpuppe1> mwe how do I get the drve to automount
[01:03] <sockpuppe1> ?
[01:04] <Kyral> Pygi: the Kernel is the program that interacts with the hardware
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ThePyromaniac,  if you get it in synaptic they will install it with all depends..
[01:04] <Bizzeh> can you say it right so im not scared of eating apples
[01:04] <Pygi> Kyral: huh, now you got me even more confused :P
[01:04] <metho> hello
[01:04] <Chousuke> Bizzeh: Apple kernels contain a chemical compound that transforms into cyanide during the digestion process. However, the amount is so small that you _can not_ die of it.
[01:04] <mwe> sockpuppe1: put auto under options
[01:04] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak nope it wont, i private messaged you but it blocked it, hango n :)
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Pygi, kernel=the base code for the OS
[01:04] <Bizzeh> ahh
[01:04] <Bizzeh> than thats ok
[01:04] <sockpuppe1> that was logical....
[01:04] <mwe> sockpuppe1: and while you're at, read man fstab too
[01:05] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, who are you?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> ThePyromaniac, your not registered you cant pm anyone
[01:05] <mwe> sockpuppe1: all the info you need is in there
[01:05] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak now i am
[01:05] <gnomefreak> who am i?
[01:05] <ThePyromaniac> i was but didnt log in
[01:05] <Chousuke> Bizzeh: you'd have to eat a whole cup full of apple kernels for it to have any effect
[01:05] <sockpuppe1> i got evetything else down
[01:05] <sockpuppe1> thanks
[01:05] <Pygi> gnomefreak: yesh
[01:05] <stevenj> I guess not  I dont know looks like rain
[01:05] <stevenj> opps
[01:05] <Pygi> and I still don't know what a kernel is :P
[01:05] <wizardjames> i have a prob , wavpack music files are not being noticed. on my install of ubuntu.   xmms , amarok , juk wont desply them in the list.    like it does not know what a .wv file is
[01:06] <Pygi> wizardjames, notice ubotu, thanks
[01:06] <Pygi> !patience
[01:06] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[01:06] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak thanks for helping, the only problem i have left with ubuntu is that its but ugly :D
[01:06] <Pygi> Pyro: change theme :)
[01:06] <wizardjames> what do u mean pygi?
[01:06] <Pygi> wizardjames: notice what ubotu told u :p
[01:06] <Mazin> Does anyone know how to fix GRUB Error 17?
[01:07] <Chousuke> Pygi: was wizardjames even repeating?
[01:07] <wizardjames> yeah..but i dont understand.    i asked that like..  40 mins ago,   i thought maybe someone new was on might now.
[01:07] <redguy> Pygi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science)
[01:07] <Pygi> Chousuke: like 30 time already :P
[01:07] <stevenj> do most of you like xmms,beep or rythmnbox for mp3 player
[01:07] <Pygi> redguy: huh, I was kidding :/
[01:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Mazin  about grub
[01:07] <Chousuke> :P
[01:07] <Bizzeh> argh
[01:07] <Bizzeh> xmms
[01:07] <andrew_> psusi, no dice.  it still shows on the desktop (it's now mounted on /mnt/windows)...
[01:07] <Madpilot> stevenj: Muine
[01:07] <Chousuke> Bizzeh: hey!
[01:07] <redguy> Pygi: oops, sorry didn't get it :-)
[01:07] <Chousuke> respect XMMS
[01:07] <Pygi> andrew: what seems to be the problem?
[01:07] <Pygi> redguy: hehe :)
[01:08] <Bizzeh> XMMS == nix winamp clone
[01:08] <stevenj> Madpilot, I'll check it out thanks
[01:08] <Chousuke> it may be bad now, but it's only because it's got old.
[01:08] <andrew_> Pygi, i want my windows partition to automount but not to show on the desktop.
[01:08] <zalaam> bmp > xmms
[01:08] <Pygi> andrew: well, that's easy (automounting)
[01:08] <Chousuke> bmp likes to crash
[01:08] <stevenj> I just noticed that xmms is working on a rewrite and so is beep
[01:08] <andrew_> Pygi, i have it working already.
[01:08] <Chousuke> BMPx I don't know of.
[01:08] <stevenj> I'm sure its old news
[01:08] <andrew_> Pygi, but it shows on the desktop.
[01:08] <Chousuke> but hell
[01:08] <Chousuke> it's late
[01:09] <Chousuke> 02:08 AM ;P
[01:09] <Pygi> andrew: huh :/
[01:09] <Bizzeh> do WORKING, hardware accelerated, ati drivers come with breezy?
[01:09] <HrdwrBoB> !ati
[01:09] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Bizzeh about ati
[01:09] <Pygi> huh, not  twice please :/
[01:10] <Bizzeh> bleh
[01:10] <Bizzeh> no dns
[01:10] <doug_> greetings fellow ubuntuites
[01:10] <stevenj> wow...breezy has the lastest Muine (then again I have bp) so maybe thats it
[01:10] <andrew_> Pygi, my program: http://pygmy.berlios.de :D
[01:10] <bobbyd> hi
[01:10] <Pygi> andrew: huh?
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> hi
[01:10] <D1> its all about banshee!
[01:10] <ANTEEY```> SockerFot
[01:10] <andrew_> Pygi, i wrote that MPD client.
[01:10] <andrew_> *am writing
[01:10] <ANTEEY```> haha
[01:10] <bobbyd> is it possible to make /dev/hdc an ide-scsi device while my machine is running, or do I have to do it at boot time?
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> I've asked about how to mount an initrd files yesterday
[01:11] <yy> ji
[01:11] <Pygi> andrew: huh, you took my name (almost( for it :/
[01:11] <Lord_Athur> I write sudo mount -o loop -t ext2 Banux/isolinux/initrd /mnt/a
[01:11] <doug_> anyone know how to update aMSN..
[01:11] <ibmnotebook> test
[01:11] <andrew_> Pygi, name for what?  and any idea about the desktop icon for windows?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> doug_, if i remember you have to grab the tar
[01:11] <Lord_Athur> I recive
[01:11] <Lord_Athur> alejandro@NAOMY:~$ sudo mount -o loop -t ext2 Banux/isolinux/initrd /mnt/a/
[01:11] <Lord_Athur> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop/0,
[01:11] <Lord_Athur>        missing codepage or other error
[01:11] <Lord_Athur>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:11] <Lord_Athur>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Lord_Athur, no pasting
[01:12] <redguy> bobbyd: why do you want to do that? you don't need scsi emulation to burn CDs these days
[01:12] <Pygi> andrew: notice the name: "pygmy" ....just try to remove "m"
[01:12] <andrew_> Pygi, lol
[01:12] <Pygi> andrew: sorry, no idea for icon :/
[01:12] <Pygi> andrew: that aint funny
[01:12] <bobbyd> redguy, yeah, but I need it for some crappy old app I'm trying to run under wine :)
[01:12] <Pygi> andrew: you took my name :P
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> gnomefreak,
[01:13] <nalioth> Lord_Athur: please read the /topic (and use a pastebin for pasting)
[01:13] <gnomefreak> Lord_Athur, ?
[01:13] <mwe> doug_: you know how to update your system, right? Do you mean like get a version that's not in the repos?
[01:13] <redguy> bobbyd: I really don't know if you can do that, then.
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> gnomefreak, nalioth   I had to do that
[01:13] <bobbyd> redguy, ok thanks
[01:13] <ThePyromaniac> can anyone else help me install a theme from gnome-looks.org? I have baffled two helpers now
[01:13] <andrew_> Pygi, it happens to also be the name of a mail client written in PyGTK+, but it's long since undeveloped.  blame them. :-P
[01:13] <gnomefreak> Lord_Athur,  no you didnt you could have used pastebin
[01:14] <skon> If I just installed a new kernel image, is it safe to uninstall the old one?
[01:14] <doug_> yes... everytime I open amsn... get an update notice... have downloaded the update... can't seem to doit
[01:14] <Pygi> andrew: someone's in big trouble cause of this....
[01:14] <gnomefreak> mwe the new amsn isnt in repos i wanna say its only in tar
[01:14] <Pygi> andrew: you know python well?
[01:15] <Lord_Athur> then gnomefreak what can i do with my problem?
[01:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: I see. do you know how to answer doug_'s question then?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> all i heard the other day is its in tar he would have to compile it
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Lord_Athur about pastebin
[01:15] <Pygi> andrew: huh? do you know python well?
[01:15] <redguy> skon: boot with the new one, and if everything is ok remove the old one if you want to be sure nothing goes wrong
[01:15] <gnomefreak> andrew_, ubuntu=gnome
[01:15] <gnomefreak> in a way
[01:15] <andrew_> gnomefreak, lol
[01:16] <andrew_> gnomefreak, then can you help me? ;-)
[01:16] <Lord_Athur> ok gnomefreak I understood
[01:16] <gnomefreak> andrew_, i dont know what seems to be the issue?
[01:16] <andrew_> Pygi, pretty well.  enough. :-P
[01:16] <mwe> doug_: however IMHO gaim or kopete is far superior to amsn. and not as ugly
[01:16] <Lord_Athur> but what can i do with my problem?
[01:16] <doug_> doesn't seem like anyone has an answer for me...
[01:16] <andrew_> gnomefreak, i like the desktop display of automounted media, but i'd like my automounted windows partition not to show up there.  is it possible to configure that?  (i've tried modifying the fstab entry from /media/windows to /mnt/windows, to no avail.)
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Lord_Athur, paste it using pastebin give us the link and we can look at it
[01:16] <Pygi> andrew: wanna join me in making newsgroups client?
[01:16] <skon> redguy: seems to go well...
[01:17] <gnomefreak> andrew_, when did gnome get an automount?
[01:17] <doug_> mwe...will try IMHO
[01:17] <mwe> doug_: gnomefreak told you to install it from source. that of course involves learning to install something from source ...
[01:17] <fr0x> What is the best program to view video files? For example, WMV
[01:17] <andrew_> gnomefreak, gah. :-P  i'm assuming ubuntu uses gnome-volume-manager, whatever it's called.
[01:18] <gnomefreak> doug_, if you ask me what you have to do to get new amsn its not worth it
[01:18] <apokryphos> fr0x: xine, kaffeine, mplayer, totem -- take your pick.
[01:18] <doug_> have to brush up... some direction ... howtos?
[01:18] <mwe> doug_: IMHO is an abrevation for In Mu Humble Opinion :)
[01:18] <mwe> doug_: My*
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell doug_  about compile
[01:18] <fr0x> I see. apokryphos, can you recommand on a good one?
[01:18] <Lord_Athur> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[01:18] <evilghost> fr0x:  I like xine or mplayer, be sure to get the w32codecs.
[01:18] <doug_> thank you gnomefreak
[01:18] <apokryphos> fr0x: I only use Kaffeine, but really they're all quite good.
[01:18] <fr0x> evilghost, I see, from where do I get this codec?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell doug_ about tar
[01:18] <doug_> having a time keeping up here
[01:19] <bakpao> ThePyromaniac : what do u want to install ? splash ? background ? GDM ?
[01:19] <evilghost> fr0x:  See http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[01:19] <fr0x> I got totem by default, though it does not support this codec and I am wondering how can I get this codec installed.
[01:19] <apokryphos> !ubuntuguide
[01:19] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:19] <metho> TO ALL: is it possible to use WINRAR on Linux
[01:19] <andrew_> doug_, good luck.  this is busier than #gentoo in my experience, namely because the chat herein is more worthwhile.
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Lord_Athur, im not the mounting type sorry but the room should know
[01:19] <andrew_> gnomefreak, any ideas?
[01:19] <Pygi> andrew: so wanna help me?
[01:19] <lucasvo> metho: why use winrar when one can use archiv manager?
[01:19] <stoneage> winerar
[01:19] <Xer0_h4x> metho: yes but its not called winRAR
[01:19] <apokryphos> fr0x: install w32codecs, or with kaffeine: kaffeine-xine
[01:20] <lucasvo> metho: you can open files generated by winrar
[01:20] <Xer0_h4x> metho: sudo apt-get rar-nonfree
[01:20] <gnomefreak> andrew_,  not with that no :(
[01:20] <ThePyromaniac> bakpao well im trying http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=30846 thinking it was a total theme, but appears to be a splash. anyhoo i have found a way i think :)
[01:20] <Pygi> k, I go
[01:20] <metho> thanks
[01:20] <Lord_Athur> is there anyone knowing about how to mount an initrd file?
[01:20] <andrew_> Pygi, oh sorry. -_-  i don't do much with newsgroups, so i'm not incredibly interested in working on that.  i do have some other ideas though.
[01:20] <ThePyromaniac> bakpao ok cool splash works :)
[01:20] <Lord_Athur> the problem is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471nl.org/6471
[01:20] <andrew_> crap... anyone have an IM or email for pygi?
[01:20] <metho> Lucasvo: do i need to install archiv
[01:21] <fr0x> apokryphos,  the question is from where I download this w32codecs, none of those players are coming with thie codec by their default?
[01:21] <lucasvo> metho: it's alreayd installed in gnome
[01:21] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[01:21] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:21] <Lord_Athur> nobody???
[01:21] <lucasvo> metho: but you need to install rar-nonfree
[01:21] <gnomefreak> andrew_, more than likely he will return
[01:21] <lucasvo> metho: as Xer0_h4x
[01:21] <lucasvo> metho: said
[01:22] <metho> ok, 1 mintue, let me try
[01:22] <Lord_Athur> do you see it gnomefreak, nobody would enjoy opening a windows to see my problem
[01:22] <bakpao> ThePyromaniac : i think it is Login Manager
[01:22] <andrew_> gnomefreak, good, but i won't be around long. :-/
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Lord_Athur, if they dont know they wont say anything if they know they will answer
[01:22] <ThePyromaniac> bakpao gdmsetup did it fine :)
[01:22] <bakpao> u must run gdmsetup with root
[01:23] <bakpao> :)
[01:23] <metho> Lucasvo: i tried sudo apt-get rar-nonfree and i got invaled action error
[01:23] <Lord_Athur> 
[01:23] <Syche> How do you get the Battery icon back in the notification area? Instaled Gnome-power-manager but its buggy and now the default Ubuntu one's gone
[01:23] <Lord_Athur> yesterday more than one knew it
[01:23] <gnomefreak> if its something you wrote than it could be code seeing as it says missing sodepage :(( and this is not #programming
[01:23] <metho> Lucasvo: i tried sudo apt-get rar-nonfree and i got invalid operation error
[01:24] <Lord_Athur> but the difference must be the pasting way used for me
[01:24] <Lord_Athur> bye all
[01:24] <doug_> going to do some brushing up on compiling.. thanks all
[01:24] <doug_> ps love Ubuntu...
[01:24] <gnomefreak> doug_,  can i make a few suggestions?
[01:24] <doug_> sure
[01:24] <lucasvo> metho: apt-get INSTALL rar-nonfree
[01:25] <fr0x> E: Couldn't find package w32codecs
[01:25] <fr0x> argh.
[01:25] <gnomefreak> good use checkinstall instead of make install and grab all libs that you need and run apt-get build-dep amsn
[01:25] <meepy> Is there anyway to make windows transperant?
[01:25] <metho> Lucasvo: ok, 1 mintue, let me try
[01:25] <doug_> gnomefreak... go ahead
[01:25] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[01:25] <bakpao> metho : but INSTALL in lowercase
[01:25] <bakpao> also : install
[01:25] <gnomefreak> doug read above :))
[01:25] <fr0x> ah
[01:25] <fr0x> fixed
[01:25] <metho> bakpao: ok thanks!
[01:26] <doug_> build-essential?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get build-essential
[01:26] <gnomefreak> opps
[01:26] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:26] <metho> bakpao and Lucasvo: didnt work, i got the following error (metho@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install rar-nonfree
[01:26] <metho> Reading package lists... Done
[01:26] <metho> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:26] <metho> E: Couldn't find package rar-nonfree
[01:26] <metho> )
[01:26] <gnomefreak> metho,  please use pastebin to paste
[01:27] <doug_> okay ...
[01:27] <Peter__> anyone here literate with a new 5.10 install, and attempting to get mysql and phpmyadmin working?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Peter__ about mysql
[01:27] <Syche> meepy: what's your gfx card?
[01:27] <metho> gnomefreak: sorry, i will use pastebin from now on, first i need to find out how!! :(
[01:27] <bakpao> metho : that's mean the package doesn't not exist
[01:27] <nik__> anyone here using GTKPOD or another Ipod manager can help me out please?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell metho about pastebin
[01:27] <meepy> Syche: Intel Extreme Graphic
[01:28] <nik__> anyone?
[01:28] <metho> bakpao: do i need to install from the web than or do i need to enable something (sorry guys i am totally new to linux and ubuntu)
[01:29] <lucasvo> metho: you need to enable the nonfree feed
[01:29] <lucasvo> !repos
[01:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:29] <lucasvo> metho: ^ enable multiverse
[01:29] <nik__> !easysource
[01:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:29] <Peter__> uh, is ubotu a robot or something?
[01:29] <nik__> yes
[01:29] <Peter__> i'm new here.
[01:30] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[01:30] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:30] <metho> Lucasvo: sorry but i do not know how to enable multiverse or nonfree
[01:30] <doug_>  gnomefreak... build essential... unpacking...are those compiling tools
[01:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: teaching ubotu to tell people about pasting when they do shouldn't be too hard, I figure ...
[01:30] <redguy> !tell metho about repos
[01:30] <Peter__> so i'm trying to set up phpmyadmin to work with my mysql installation.  mysql is up and running fine, but once configured, phpmyadmin's index.php page is blank!  I have no idea of what's wrong.
[01:30] <{alejandro}> ok
[01:30] <doug_> looks like development pkgs
[01:31] <{alejandro}> has anyone gotten MythTV to work under Breezy AMD64
[01:31] <lucasvo> metho: run synaptic, go to settings, repositories
[01:31] <bakpao> metho : try to find the debian package *.deb then use dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:31] <lucasvo> metho: there you can select it
[01:31] <bakpao> i don't use rar
[01:31] <Syche> mepy: Sorry was away
[01:32] <metho> Lucasvo: thanks, i'll try now and will let u know about the results
[01:32] <Syche> meepy: Check the composite thread on Ubuntu foums
[01:32] <mwe> bakpao: neither do I, but I use unrar ocasionally
[01:32] <Syche> meepy: You're looking for transset
[01:33] <gnomefreak> you need unrar with linux??????????
[01:33] <{alejandro}> I only use far for reading cbr archives
[01:33] <{alejandro}> *rar not far
[01:33] <houseoftainted> does any1 know a digital camera wizard for ubuntu???
[01:33] <Kyral> you can use rar on linux
[01:33] <Peter__>  can anyone assist w.r.t. phpmyadmin configuration on a new system?
[01:33] <{alejandro}> yeah
[01:33] <{alejandro}> it's in multiverse
[01:33] <Kyral> houseoftainted: gthumb, F-Sport
[01:33] <Kyral> rtt
[01:33] <Madpilot> houseoftainted: just plug it in, and see what happens
[01:33] <Kyral> F-Spot
[01:33] <nalioth> bakpao: debian packages can wreck ubuntu
[01:33] <gnomefreak> Kyral, i know you can but i have yet seen a file.rar in linux
[01:33] <nalioth> metho: debian packages can wreck ubuntu
[01:33] <{alejandro}> so, once again, has anyne gotten MythTV working in Breezy AMD64
[01:33] <Kyral> My Manga downloads came in them
[01:34] <bakpao> nalioth : really ?
[01:34] <{alejandro}> Kyral, try installing comix
[01:34] <bakpao> metho : apt-get install rar
[01:34] <{alejandro}> Kyral are you using CBR archives?
[01:34] <nalioth> bakpao: really.
[01:34] <metho> bakpao: ok let me try!
[01:34] <bakpao> as a root
[01:34] <Kyral> {alejandro}: they were plain rar
[01:34] <cvt|gnuyear> does anyone know how to get codecs to play embedded quicktime files?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> as sudo too :))
[01:35] <{alejandro}> Kyral if you apt-get install comix and change the names to cbr instead of rar, it will stay compressed when you open it
[01:35] <mwe> Peter__: just load phpmyadmin and log in
[01:35] <Kyral> {alejandro}: I already did it lol
[01:35] <mwe> Peter__: asuming your lamp server is working that is
[01:35] <{alejandro}> Kyral ah ok
[01:35] <sexcopter8000m> hi, how do i determine what firefox uses to play video files? i have both the mplayer and vlc packages installed
[01:35] <{alejandro}> Kyral just search for rar in synaptic, it's there
[01:35] <Peter__> lamp is OK.  I have other PHP pages (phpinfo()) running.
[01:35] <Kyral> sexcopter8000m: get the MediaPlayerConnectiveity extension for Firefox
[01:35] <gnomefreak> sexcopter8000m, it should tell you in the settings
[01:35] <Kyral> {alejandro}: I know all about rar ;P
[01:36] <apokryphos> sexcopter8000m: it uses mplayer; there is no vlc plugin
[01:36] <{alejandro}> Kyral I joined in too late. woops
[01:36] <Peter__> phpmyinfo is returning a blank page when I hit it.  This follows config attempts to have it use a http access control
[01:36] <metho> bakpao: thanks, it seems to me that installation went smoothly, would u mind telling me what i need to do next!!!!
[01:36] <bakpao> nalioth : thank you, i didn't know :)
[01:36] <mwe> Peter__: well I just did apt-get phpmyadmin and went to the phpmyadmin page on my local machine and logged in IIRC
[01:37] <LordMelkor> can i get some help
[01:37] <LordMelkor> i think im havind driver problems
[01:37] <sexcopter8000m> apokryphos, i have found "mozilla-plugin-vlc"
[01:37] <LordMelkor> having*
[01:37] <bakpao> metho : nothing it is just text base command
[01:37] <mwe> !helpme
[01:37] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:37] <LordMelkor> well i get
[01:37] <apokryphos> sexcopter8000m: oh, perhaps there is one then.
[01:37] <LordMelkor> an I/O
[01:37] <LordMelkor> error
[01:37] <LordMelkor> whenever i try to copy files
[01:37] <LordMelkor> from my cd
[01:37] <{alejandro}> hey all, what is a good dvd ripper program
[01:37] <LordMelkor> to the hd
[01:37] <Madpilot> !enter
[01:37] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:37] <metho> bakpao: but i can use this to extrat my files from winrar though, i mean using the gui
[01:38] <LordMelkor> .
[01:38] <bakpao> metho : in our console type unrar
[01:38] <bakpao> metho : u will see how can u unrar
[01:38] <bakpao> or rar
[01:38] <sexcopter8000m> oh hang about. i'm using ff1.5, maybe that's why nothing is happening :s
[01:38] <MaFiaBoY> I get this when trying to install anything : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6472
[01:38] <metho> nalioth: why debian packages are bad for ubuntu
[01:38] <lucasvo> metho: I go now, if you have problems, please consult: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#rar
[01:38] <MaFiaBoY> any ideas ?
[01:38] <halibut> Would ubuntu be ok with a wide screen monitor such as this? http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13629
[01:38] <LordMelkor> also if im browsing the cd too long
[01:38] <metho> bakpao: thanks
[01:38] <LordMelkor> then it freezes
[01:38] <metho> lucasvo: thanks for ur help
[01:39] <garry> Hello, is there a way to find a list of all the various ubuntu forums on this server? I saw a list, but it was for evertying including windows. I got a headache trying to read it.
[01:39] <houseoftainted> ummm it says unknown model for my cam
[01:39] <nalioth> metho: they are not built for ubuntu. if you want to run debian packages, use debian-source and have apt-get build them for you
[01:39] <LordMelkor> any ideas of what i can do?
[01:39] <Madpilot> garry: most IRC apps allow you to search the channel list
[01:40] <pinkisntwell> how can I burn a bin?
[01:40] <moox> Hi !! I need a xorg dev libs to compile svn amarok. What is the package name ?
[01:40] <LordMelkor> use k3b
[01:40] <garry> Madpilot Yep, thanks. I tried /list maybe there's a wild card I don't know about.
[01:40] <metho> nalioth: could u explain that debian-source and building apt-get concept for me please, i have no idea!!!!
[01:40] <houseoftainted> pinkisntwell,  use a .cue
[01:40] <pinkisntwell> how do I burn a cue?
[01:40] <LordMelkor> ...
[01:40] <andrew_> psusi, gnomefreak: the solution to the windows on the desktop is to remove the user option in fstab, but then it doesn't show up anywhere--not on the places menu, not in the Computer in nautilus... :-/
[01:40] <LordMelkor> use the cd image burning option
[01:40] <LordMelkor> in k3b
[01:41] <Some_Body> hm, is it normal during ubuntu installation for apt to take 1-2 hours to configure the primary package repository?
[01:41] <pinkisntwell> if I dont have k3b?
[01:41] <houseoftainted> pinkisntwell,  get fireburner
[01:41] <pinkisntwell> Some_Body: no it isnt
[01:41] <nalioth> pinkisntwell: you dont burn a .cue, you burn a .cue/.bin combination
[01:41] <bakpao> Some_Body : i think it depends on ur connection
[01:41] <Some_Body> hm, well this is bad
[01:41] <garry> LordLucless, when I last had a cd freeze like that in linux and Ubuntu, it was a fingerprint on the surface.
[01:41] <LordMelkor> and u dont need a cue mose software will create on for you
[01:41] <andrew_> pinkisntwell: did you try using gnomebaker?
[01:41] <LordMelkor> most*
[01:41] <Some_Body> been stuck at 25% for quite some time
[01:42] <eric_> hey, how do I edit the grub file (i need to be an admin or something?)
[01:42] <eric_> just lets me look at it right now
[01:42] <LordMelkor> some_body it might be that you have a bad burn
[01:42] <Some_Body> and bakpao, you don't actually need an internet connection for ubuntu download
[01:42] <gnomefreak> all emacs fall under GNU right?
[01:42] <mwe> eric_: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:42] <eric_> thank you very much
[01:42] <Madpilot> garry: which IRC client are you using?
[01:42] <mwe> eric_: back it up first though
[01:42] <Some_Body> I burned the cdr in nero at 8x
[01:42] <LordMelkor> has anyone had the problem where their cd rom drive
[01:42] <houseoftainted> my digital camera isnt showin up in gthumb
[01:42] <LordMelkor> times out
[01:42] <garry> Madpilot X-Chat
[01:42] <LordMelkor> and gives an I/O error
[01:42] <eric_> owe you one :)
[01:42] <Some_Body> should I have done it at 4x?
[01:43] <ThePyromaniac> ok so i thought i had themese sorted but now i cant get http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32862 to install in System -> Preferences -> Themes
[01:43] <Madpilot> garry: I don't use XChat right now, but I have, and I'm pretty sure it lists & allows sorting/searching of channels
[01:43] <Snurf> Some_Body, shouldnt matter, i burn at 16x
[01:43] <LordMelkor> it depends on your media
[01:43] <Some_Body> cd drive is fairly new...
[01:43] <nik__> hey how do I open etc/sudoers???
[01:43] <LordMelkor> but i had to burn mine at 2x
[01:43] <houseoftainted> my digital camera isnt showin up in gthumb... how can i get it recognized
[01:44] <mwe> nik__: sudo visudo
[01:44] <nalioth> nik__: in a console, 'man visudo'
[01:44] <garry> Thanks, I think I'll research it some more or wait till I can read the list.
[01:44] <Some_Body> guess I'll just try another burn
[01:44] <gnomefreak> Madpilot, it does
[01:44] <bakpao> ThePyromaniac : http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q7
[01:44] <psusi> andrew_, removing the user option prevents anyone but root from mounting the disk
[01:45] <ThePyromaniac> bakpao thanks
[01:45] <psusi> andrew_, if you just don't want it to show up on the desktop, mount it some place other than /media
[01:45] <mwe> how do you change the default editor in ubuntu?
[01:45] <Madpilot> gnomefreak: want to tell garry what the secret is?
[01:45] <metho> bakpao: i am reading unrar guide and it says "e" is to extract files in current direstory so basically the command to extract files from a unrar will be unrar -e /home/metho/filename.rar
[01:46] <gnomefreak> garry,  on x-chat go to window than channel list
[01:46] <nalioth> metho: unrar x is better (unrar e will not uncompress folders correctly and will fill your drive with broken folder contents)
[01:46] <mwe> I mean how do you change the editor ubuntu uses for vipw, visudo etc?
[01:46] <cafuego> mwe: export EDITOR=myeidotr
[01:46] <Madpilot> houseoftainted: try File menu -> Import From Camera in gThumb
[01:46] <mwe> cafuego: ah. thanks
[01:46] <gnomefreak> that is what you were looking for correct? garry
[01:47] <andrew_> psusi: you recommended that, and it didn't work.
[01:47] <Peter__> in the package manager, what does the little ubuntu logo represent?
[01:47] <Madpilot> houseoftainted: actually, it's "Import Photos", but close enough...
[01:47] <garry> gnomefreak thanks, I think it is.
[01:47] <Some_Body> 2x or 4x?
[01:47] <Some_Body> I want to be careful
[01:47] <psusi> andrew_, define "don't work"... if it isn't mounted in /media, it don't show up on the desktop
[01:47] <metho> nalioth: so basically the commend the command for extracting would be unrar x /home/metho/filename.rar
[01:47] <gnomefreak> garry thats a list of channles on the server you are logged into
[01:47] <Some_Body> but honestly, 2x seems to be overdoing it
[01:47] <andrew_> psusi: it did for me.  if you recall, i even rebooted in between.
[01:48] <psusi> andrew_, you must not have managed to get it out of /media then
[01:48] <garry> gnomefreak yep, thanks, it's perfect.
[01:48] <Madpilot> Peter__: in Synaptic, go Help menu --> Icon Legend
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yw garry
[01:48] <igaaa> Hi everyone, should an ATI 9800 Pro graphic card be fully recognized by breezy ?
[01:48] <Some_Body> meh, I'll be careful
[01:48] <garry> Thanks for the help Madpilot and Gnomefreak.
[01:48] <bina> if i set up a cron job to do apt-get update; apt-get -y upgrade at the end of every week, could it damage the computer if I shut down the PC while its doing the upgrade?
[01:48] <psusi> andrew_, check the output of df to see where it's mounted
[01:48] <Draken> hey guys, anyone know how to make mplayer window bigger ?like strech the video
[01:48] <Madpilot> garry: np
[01:48] <Some_Body> no, I think you need  to install the driver first
[01:48] <gnomefreak> garry, anytime
[01:48] <bina> or does cron make sure that can't happen
[01:48] <Comrade_Vladimir> what channel shoulkd i go to to get advice on a mp3 player
[01:48] <andrew_> psusi: i did.  it was on /mnt.  (i'm no dummy.)
[01:49] <Draken> hey guys, anyone know how to make mplayer window bigger ?like strech the video
[01:49] <psusi> andrew_, hrm.... I didn't think /mnt also showed up... try somewhere else.. like /windows
[01:49] <houseoftainted> Madpilot,  tried... says unknown camera model
[01:49] <bina> Draken: i think u need to put -vo xv sometimes
[01:49] <dinie0ubuntu_> happy 2006 all.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> is there a gui version of emacs?
[01:49] <bakpao> metho : yes, just give a try :)
[01:49] <Draken> err wat bina ?
[01:49] <andrew_> psusi: ok, but then i'm afraid it won't show up anywhere... i'll try.  brb.
[01:49] <Kyral> gnomefreak: if you fire it up in X then an X Interface will spawn
[01:49] <psusi> andrew_, I've got my windows partition mounted just as /c and it doesn't show up on the desktop
[01:50] <metho> Draken: use vlc, its better and does everything
[01:50] <Madpilot> houseoftainted: you might want to search the forums (ubuntuforums.org) or google
[01:50] <Syche> Draken: right click and choose full screen etc. or press F
[01:50] <Draken> metho, it on apt ?
[01:50] <andrew_> psusi: does it show in the places menu or the computer in nautilus?  (brb for real)
[01:50] <bina> Draken: when i played videos using the command       mplayer  <video>   even when i made the window fullscreen (f) the image would still be slow
[01:50] <psusi> andrew_, no...
[01:50] <houseoftainted> Madpilot,  k -_-
[01:51] <bakpao> Draken : edit your ~/.mplayer/gui.conf
[01:51] <psusi> andrew_, I just made a shortcut to one or two places in /c that I frequently access on my desktop
[01:51] <mwe> bina: sounds broken. gmplayer works like a charm here. and as bonus it's not ugly like vlc
[01:51] <metho> Draken: use Synaptic to install, thats what i did, i was having the same problem with mplayer so i installed vlc player and it sorted everything
[01:51] <LordMelkor> i get an I/O error when i try to copy files off a data cd
[01:51] <Draken> k metho
[01:51] <Draken> getting vlc now
[01:51] <Draken> ta
[01:51] <LordMelkor> how can i fix this?
[01:52] <LordMelkor> i dont think its the cd drive itself
[01:52] <gnomefreak> when you say starting emacs in X you mean click on the menu item?
[01:52] <psusi> LordMelkor, get a new cd
[01:52] <mwe> LordMelkor: get a working cd
[01:52] <bina> mwe: dont need to do it anymore, twas when i was usinf Fedora.  No problems with Ubuntu (yaay)
[01:52] <LordMelkor> um
[01:52] <LordMelkor> this cd
[01:52] <LordMelkor> works fine
[01:52] <metho> Draken: no problem,,, i am new to Linux and i am glad that i can help some1
[01:52] <LordMelkor> on my mp3 cd player
[01:52] <andrew_> psusi: i'm hoping for just taking it off the desktop.  i'm getting the feeling it's not possible. :)
[01:52] <LordMelkor> and those are less tolerant than computers
[01:52] <andrew_> psusi: but i wonder if you have the user flag set in fstab for your /c?  that seemed to be the catalyst here.
[01:53] <psusi> LordMelkor, did you play the same file you are now trying to read?
[01:53] <mwe> bina: You used fedora. Is it slow like I seem to hear all the time?
[01:53] <psusi> LordMelkor, and did it have any skips in the playback?
[01:53] <LordMelkor> ya
[01:53] <Some_Body> ooh, ooh, I used fedora!
[01:53] <LordMelkor> but
[01:53] <LordMelkor> it didnt have skips
[01:53] <Some_Body> it's bad
[01:53] <psusi> andrew_, well, that should make it inaccessable from anywhere as well, it won't be mounted at all
[01:53] <mwe> Some_Body: is it true it's slow like hell?
[01:53] <Madpilot> LordMelkor: can you please stop using your ENTER key as punctuation? Thanks...
[01:53] <Some_Body> slow, high ammount of package dependancies
[01:53] <Some_Body> yes
[01:53] <LordMelkor> sorry
[01:53] <gnomefreak> mwe yes
[01:53] <bina> mwe: I had no problems with it really. The only thing i didnt like was the fact I had to download the ISOs every time i wanted to upgrade :)
[01:54] <gnomefreak> unless they fixed it in 5
[01:54] <Snurf> Where in the installation process do i choose which hard drive to install to?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Snurf, the partioning part
[01:54] <mwe> Snurf: in the beginning
[01:54] <LordMelkor> is red text a private message... im not very familiar with x-chan i usually use mirc
[01:54] <psusi> LordMelkor, try cleaning the disk then
[01:54] <LordMelkor> x-chat*
[01:54] <Snurf> Should i choose DEFAULT installation or the base
[01:55] <LordMelkor> also i did try wiping down the cd
[01:55] <Some_Body> bina, why didn't you update via rpm?
[01:55] <bina> LordMelkor: I think its usually just when someone says your name
[01:55] <nalioth> LordMelkor: i just sent you two differnt msg types
[01:55] <Some_Body> floppies are dirt cheap
[01:55] <gnomefreak> LordLucless, red text in room is for you to read the red name under the room would be an im
[01:55] <andrew_> psusi: no, it's still browseable (set by the dmask/fmask options), but the gnome vfs junk doesn't pick it up.
[01:55] <LordMelkor> ya got them
[01:55] <bina> Some_Body: too scared :) i was told it was likely to stop the system from working
[01:55] <psusi> floppies are as dead as dos... let them rest in peace
[01:55] <Snurf> If i need to install to an external hard drive should i choose default installation or the base system
[01:55] <Some_Body> hehe
[01:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> psusi windows basically runs on dos still
[01:56] <Some_Body> floppies are useful
[01:56] <bina> Some_Body: i did package updates, just not between distro versions
[01:56] <psusi> andrew_, ohh, you just got rid of user, but don't have noauto?
[01:56] <nalioth> Snurf: good luck on installing to an external (i don't think it works too well)
[01:56] <andrew_> psusi: right.
[01:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> + theyre good boot discs
[01:56] <metho> bakpao: thanks very much... everything worked A ok!!! another question if its not too much trouble! is there a program to use par files ( par files are included in files that are downloaded from newsgroups)
[01:56] <psusi> Comrade_Vladimir, only 9x does... which is why it's a flaming pile of crap and I never used it
[01:56] <nalioth> metho: par2 is in the repos
[01:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> psusi yea
[01:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> + 3.x
[01:57] <psusi> andrew_, nifty!
[01:57] <gnomefreak> floppy makes nice and easy source code storage
[01:57] <LordMelkor> why do i get called lord lucless so much
[01:57] <LordMelkor> what is that
[01:57] <LordMelkor> i have been called that by multiple people
[01:57] <andrew_> psusi: kinda.  maybe that's good for you, but it isn't quite what i wanted. :-/
[01:57] <bakpao> metho : no problem i'm beginner either :) don't know about par files :'( sorry
[01:57] <gnomefreak> LordMelkor,  its auto complete
[01:57] <andrew_> LordMelkor: good old tabcomplete and laziness. :)
[01:57] <nalioth> bakpao: parchive.sourceforge.net will explain
[01:57] <gnomefreak> type few letters of name and hit tab
[01:58] <doug_> gnomefreak... thanks for the info... going to learn something and create havoc on my computer...
[01:58] <andrew_> LordMelkor: in one of my frequent channels, i get called Andares all the time. :-P
[01:58] <ThePyromaniac> doh, i accidentally clicked Open with Text Editor on a tar.gz file, and now whenever i download tar.gz's it makes them a 0byte text file
[01:58] <ThePyromaniac> help...
[01:58] <gnomefreak> psusi, lol
[01:58] <Some_Body> well, I'd estimate that atp started roughy 2 hours ago, and I've been at 25% for 1 hour
[01:58] <psusi> andrew_, try looking in gconf for an option to not show them on the desktop
[01:58] <deang> I  just added a FAT32 drive as a slave. (My master is the Ubuntu drive).  I need to get files off of the FAT32. It didn't show up on the desktop...is this normal?   Would someone shoot me a URL for how to properly mount it?
[01:58] <LordMelkor> but i mean lucless... thats like demeaning :p
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ThePyromaniac, with firefox?
[01:58] <sethk> deang, it's normal because the windows drives are automatically detected by the installer
[01:58] <ThePyromaniac> deang http://ubuntulinux.nl/files
[01:58] <andrew_> psusi: good idea. :)  admittedly, i'm not much of a gnomer so i forget some of this stuff!
[01:59] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak nautilous
[01:59] <bakpao> nalioth : thanks :)
[01:59] <daskog> Hello 2 all
[01:59] <Some_Body> ...26% now
[01:59] <Some_Body> hello!
[01:59] <mwe> psusi: but I guess it was easy in the sense that floppy drives are probably some of the most standardized hw around
[01:59] <fizdev> deang: mount -t vfat /dev/hda(number) /mnt/(folder you've created)/
[01:59] <metho> nalioth: thanks friend! how do i use par2 file i just installed in through the the Syanptic
[01:59] <daskog> im new with Ubuntu, and was wondering how do i get root priveliges?
[01:59] <Some_Body> sudo
[02:00] <nalioth> metho: visit parchive.sourceforge.net
[02:00] <deang> tyhx
[02:00] <gnomefreak> sudo
[02:00] <metho> nalioth: thanks, will do now!!
[02:00] <psusi> mwe, one thing that really pissed me off when writing that floppy driver was that there exists a command to query the hardware to find out what kind ( if any ) of disk is actually connected... NOBODY actually implements it though
[02:00] <xJeff> sudo -s
[02:01] <psusi> mwe: which is why you have to tell the bios that information, which the OS then blindly accepts, since it can't probe the hardware...
[02:01] <metho> daskog: sudo -i is same as su
[02:01] <mwe> psusi: yeah sounds like a pain
[02:01] <psusi> actually, sudo -s is the same as su... sudo -i is the same as su -
[02:01] <johndarkhorse> metho: bakpao: if parchive.sourceforge.net doesnt help you, join #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll try
[02:01] <nik__> can someone help me with my Ipod? For some reason it wont dismount!
[02:01] <Some_Body> sounds like a seurity issue
[02:01] <mwe> psusi: what OS did you write it for?
[02:02] <poimen> someone here use a ati card with tvout enabled?
[02:02] <psusi> mwe, ReactOS
[02:02] <xJeff> sudo -s changes you to root@computername
[02:02] <mwe> psusi: I see
[02:02] <ThePyromaniac> gnomefreak any ideas? i cant stop it even with openwith
[02:02] <psusi> open source NT clone
[02:02] <Some_Body> just force the bios, and you circumvent any floppy blocks
[02:02] <giordanez> hi
[02:02] <daskog> Ok this might sound funny to some people! but my terminal is gone!
[02:02] <psusi> Some_Body, what?
[02:03] <poimen> I need to kwon what driver should I use so I can see videos in my tv
[02:03] <daskog> is there a shortcut for getting the terminal
[02:03] <metho> johndarkhorse: thanks, nalioth is already helping me but if doesnt than i will let you know!
[02:03] <andrew_> psusi: i have to go.  thanks for the help!
[02:03] <whiskthecat> sup
[02:03] <whiskthecat> i need some help
[02:03] <poimen> because I am using ati propieraty ones and I get a clone view but I cant see the video or movie on the tv just in the monitor
[02:03] <Some_Body> allright
[02:04] <Zambba> daskog: if you use default terminal of Ubuntu, go to "Run program" dialog and enter gnome-terminal there and launch
[02:04] <Zambba> maybe just the menu launcher is gone
[02:04] <daskog> ok
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> or look in the menus for the icon :P
[02:04] <whiskthecat> i have googled this and searched the forums and it looks pretty hopeless. i have a 2wire dsl modem and i need to plug it in with usb
[02:04] <daskog> cant find it nowhere
[02:04] <daskog> im not that noob =P
[02:04] <whiskthecat> what do i do
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> first thing i always do is put that terminal icon on the panel somewhere.
[02:05] <daskog> haha
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> make a new launcher heh .
[02:05] <whiskthecat> any1 have any ideas
[02:05] <daskog> it has moved to Accessories! i dont know how
[02:05] <whiskthecat> ?????????
[02:05] <whiskthecat> didnt think so
[02:05] <Zambba> I'll never close my terminal :D
[02:05] <Some_Body> ndiswrapper?
[02:05] <whiskthecat> hmmmmmmmm
[02:05] <zoto>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[02:05] <zoto> lollor
[02:05] <nik__> can someone help me with my Ipod? For some reason it wont dismount!\
[02:06] <whiskthecat> what do i do with that?
[02:06] <whiskthecat> is it a command
[02:06] <daskog> gnome-terminal
[02:06] <Some_Body> no, it's a program
[02:06] <whiskthecat> how do i start
[02:06] <daskog> su: Authentication failure
[02:06] <daskog> Sorry.
[02:06] <xJeff> you have to install ndiswrapper
[02:06] <Some_Body> hold on, looking for the ndiswrapper wiki
[02:06] <daskog> wtf
[02:06] <whiskthecat> download?
[02:06] <daskog> i just installed Ubuntu
[02:06] <xJeff> Some_body will provide you a wiki link
[02:06] <mwe> !ndiswrapper
[02:06] <ubotu> from memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:06] <xJeff> it tells you hwo to
[02:06] <whiskthecat> cuz i dont have a connection on that computer obviosly
[02:06] <daskog> and it dont even recognise my password!
[02:07] <xJeff> use a usb drive and do apt-install
[02:07] <xJeff> i mean
[02:07] <xJeff> dpkg-install
[02:07] <zoto> nik__ just unplug it
[02:07] <mwe> daskog: you can
[02:07] <Some_Body> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[02:07] <whiskthecat> its not wirelesss?
[02:07] <mwe> daskog: you can't login?
[02:07] <nik__> zoto, wont that corrupt the drive??
[02:08] <zoto> doubt it, iv done it plenty of times
[02:08] <nik__> hmm
[02:08] <daskog> mwe< well i realy dont know whats going on now
[02:08] <nik__> is there no way around it?
[02:08] <nik__> do you get an error too when trying to dismount?
[02:08] <zoto> are you using any files on the drive?
[02:08] <Some_Body> well, I'm off to re-attempt the ubuntu install
[02:08] <Some_Body> wish me luck!
[02:08] <nik__> i dont think so
[02:08] <zoto> no, usually it dismounts fine
[02:08] <nik__> mine sais
[02:08] <whiskthecat> its not wireless its just an external usb modem
[02:08] <gnomefreak> anyone have the prunouation page for gnome handy?
[02:09] <nik__> the error is: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[02:09] <daskog> I just can't loggin as root!
[02:09] <mwe> daskog: you're not supposed to
[02:09] <xJeff> daskog: you don't need root
[02:09] <mwe> !root
[02:09] <ubotu> I guess root is by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[02:09] <daskog> then how can i install Nvidia driver
[02:10] <daskog> ?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> daskog, use sudo before the command
[02:10] <zoto> nik__: idk
[02:10] <daskog> i'll trye that
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sudo -i
[02:10] <daskog> to
[02:10] <xJeff> Anyone have tried installing KDE on Ubuntu just using apt-get install? does it work well?
[02:10] <Ron_o> sudo!
[02:10] <nik__> hmmm
[02:10] <Ron_o> !sudo
[02:10] <ubotu> root is, like, totally, by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[02:10] <whiskthecat> ok so basically u cant use external dsl modems
[02:10] <gnomefreak> or sudo <command>
[02:10] <nik__> anyone else use an Ipod?
[02:10] <Kyral> xJeff: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <bakpao> daskdog : sudo su --> then use the ur own password
[02:10] <xJeff> kyral: yea .. does it work good?
[02:10] <Ron_o> whiskthecat: I use an external dsl modem..
[02:10] <mwe> yeah don't overuse sudo -i or much of the benefit of sudo will be gone
[02:10] <ScootaDoota> I'll still su out of habit
[02:10] <Kyral> xJeff: I don't like KDE ;P
[02:11] <whiskthecat> through usb
[02:11] <daskog> ok thanks..that worked
[02:11] <uh60pilot> hey guys I got a very basic question I am new to linux and want to telnet to a site such as google do Ijust go to terminal and type telnet http://www.google.com 80
[02:11] <xJeff> Kryal: hehe thanks anyways =)
[02:11] <uh60pilot> ?
[02:11] <Kyral> xJeff: It works fine, but KDE isn't my cup of tea
[02:11] <xJeff> Kyral: I see. thanks
[02:11] <metho> i just installed par2 but i dont know where and how to open!
[02:11] <daskog> sudo sh /home/daniel/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[02:11] <daskog>  like this
[02:11] <gnomefreak> xfce :))
[02:11] <Kyral> Flux
[02:11] <johndarkhorse> metho: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:11] <daskog> now i need to get some packages =)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> metho,  try par2 in terminal
[02:11] <Ron_o> how large is KDE? How many MB would it be to D/L Kubuntu Desktop?
[02:11] <metho> ok
[02:11] <ScootaDoota> telnet www.google.com 80
[02:11] <Kyral> ick telnet
[02:12] <napstar567> can someone tell me why i cannot download packages from security.ubuntu.com
[02:12] <gnomefreak> the bot has wrong site for gnome its down
[02:12] <Kyral> someone still uses Telnet?
[02:12] <whiskthecat> usb dsl modem? can any1 help
[02:12] <timfrost> uh60pilot, yes.  But why do you want to telnet to a web server?
[02:12] <Kyral> Ron_o: at least 300 MB
[02:12] <markrian> How do I add a nameserver entry to resolv.conf? My device is configured with DHCP by a hardware router, and I want this extra nameserver (which is another machine) to be the default nameserver for client machines. Any ideas?
[02:12] <Nap_> hi
[02:12] <uh60pilot> tim, I'm trying to see what information the site is requesting from my browser
[02:12] <napstar567> just use ssh or samba
[02:12] <ColonelPanique> uh60pilot : uhhh... there is not much point in such an exercise really.
[02:12] <mwe> metho: use dpkg -L <package> to see what <package> installed and where. use dpkg -L <package>|grep bin to locate the binary
[02:12] <Ron_o> just for a big win you'all I got a relative using Ubuntu now.. :)
[02:13] <daskog> ubuntu might considering get 2-3 more channels so they can split up support into diffrent sections lol! to hard to read everything in here! but nice to see there is sutch a great community
[02:13] <whiskthecat> how do i setup apache
[02:13] <uh60pilot> trying to open it in a script but it is not giving me all the information when accessed from the script so Ithink it might be a header or something
[02:13] <uh60pilot> telnet would tell me what it is requesting right?
[02:13] <whiskthecat> apache?
[02:13] <napstar567> read the howto section
[02:13] <Kyral> he's got a point
[02:13] <napstar567> getting started
[02:13] <Kyral> uh60pilot: just don't use it for anything serious
[02:14] <uh60pilot> I'm not just trying to see what is being requested from my browser
[02:14] <Kyral> uh60pilot: telnet is like broadcasting in the clear
[02:14] <douglux> greetings again.. slight name change...(formally Doug_)new to the Ubuntu Community... hoping to give back need direction
[02:14] <Kyral> uh60pilot: I know just saying ;P
[02:14] <uh60pilot> but using that isn't giving me anything I need:(
[02:14] <ColonelPanique> uh60pilot : there are better tools for such purposes anyways, such as netcat, for example.
[02:14] <Kyral> Ethereal
[02:14] <uh60pilot> I've used ethereal before does it work on linux as well?
[02:14] <uh60pilot> netcat?
[02:14] <Kyral> uh60pilot: yes
[02:14] <ssstormy> hello, I'm faced with an issue... I apparantly do not have the executable "gconf-schemas" installed
[02:14] <ScootaDoota> yes ethereal works
[02:14] <Kyral> uh60pilot: very well
[02:14] <napstar567> using telnet is like using windows netsend
[02:14] <ssstormy> does anyone know what package installs this?
[02:14] <zoto> what do i need to install to go from a server install to a default with apt-get?
[02:15] <ColonelPanique> Kyral : he is not logging into anything, so your security point is moot. ;-)
[02:15] <Kyral> zoto: ubuntu-desktop
[02:15] <uh60pilot> thanks very much
[02:15] <zoto> Kyral: thanks
[02:15] <uh60pilot> anyone good with sending headers with php?
[02:15] <n0ah> hm, had ubuntu 8 months now and never been in here yet
[02:15] <do0b> got a small question about the linux gazette packages, does anibody knows how they should be used?
[02:15] <ColonelPanique> uh60pilot : wrong channel man.  try ##php
[02:15] <Kyral> do0b: read them ;P
[02:15] <xJeff> PHP headers has been a headache for me
[02:16] <uh60pilot> yeah those guys don't answer very much
[02:16] <uh60pilot> tried them several times
[02:16] <Madpilot> douglux: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyWaysToHelpUbuntu
[02:16] <douglux> thanks Madpilot
[02:16] <do0b> installed the packages but don't know how they should be opened
[02:16] <metho> hello how do i join another channel i.e. #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:16] <ColonelPanique> uh60pilot : true. they are elitist, and such. anyways, you'll get chastised here for going off-topic methinks. ;-)
[02:16] <Kyral> do0b: look in /usr/share
[02:17] <do0b> ok
[02:17] <Kyral> metho: /join <channel>
[02:17] <Ron_o> metho.... try "/<CHANNEL>"
[02:17] <Madpilot> douglux: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingUbuntu
[02:17] <uh60pilot> thanks colonel
[02:17] <fissy> hello... I have a weird problem with dapper. is there anywhere i can ask about it or possibly report a bug?
[02:17] <Ron_o> ... /join... hehe.
[02:17] <Kyral> fissy: like?
[02:17] <bakpao> metho : /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <vanden> Hi all. New to linux and Breezy. I'm trying to install Canadian English dictionaries into OpenOffice. I'm using OOo 1.9.129 as installed by breezy. Standard Windows way is in OOo File->Wizard->Install New dictionaries. Did nothing. Put DicOOo.sxw in /usr/share/myspell/dicts as per instructions at <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100695>. Still nothing. Further instructions at link seem to depend on upgrading OOo outside of offici
[02:17] <Kyral> fissy: report it to Malone
[02:17] <w4f7z> ive got a question about NIC bonding, im alittle confused about the switch feature requirments and i cant seem to find it on google, if anyone would like to explain it to me or point me to a good site it would be apreasheated
[02:18] <fissy> Kyral, my cpu usage is 70%+, but no process seems to be using very much. Xorg is top with 5%
[02:18] <metho> thanks!
[02:18] <fissy> who's malone?
[02:18] <Kyral> fissy: use top
[02:18] <Kyral> fissy: www.launchpad.net
[02:18] <fissy> Kyral, am using top
[02:18] <Kyral> GNOME System Monitor?
[02:19] <n0ah> man does xchat annoy me
[02:19] <fr0x> What firewall you suggest to use? I am currently using firestarter
[02:19] <fissy> same results, though also shows GSM using lots of resources, the big hog that it is
[02:19] <n0ah> ctrl+x kills it
[02:19] <gnomefreak> n0ah, you have 35 thousand other ones to choose from :))
[02:19] <douglux> brb
[02:19] <Kyral> fr0x: Every Firewall on Linux is like a frontend to IPTables
[02:19] <n0ah> gnomefreak, yea yea.. but this is the one i have installed atm
[02:20] <n0ah> gnomefreak, any suggestions?
[02:20] <fr0x> Kyral, so I better stay with firestarter?
[02:20] <mwe> fr0x: firestarter is great, the best imho
[02:20] <gnomefreak> irssi is good and also installed by default
[02:20] <Kyral> aside from tweaking IPTables yourself
[02:20] <Kyral> Irssi++
[02:20] <fr0x> mwe, I see.
[02:20] <mwe> fr0x: it implement some damn kewl basic rules and is easy to use
[02:20] <Kyral> install the irssi-scripts package too
[02:20] <ssstormy> no one knows the executable gconf-schemas?
[02:20] <Kyral> ssstormy: gimme a sec
[02:20] <gnomefreak> n0ah, do you want text or GUI irc client?
[02:21] <ssstormy> I just need to find the package that contains it
[02:21] <Nei> what's so gread about irssi?
[02:21] <ssstormy> Kyral, thanks
[02:21] <n0ah> either or, i often use bitchx
[02:21] <fr0x> mwe, I see. Wonderful - Thanks mwe/kyral
[02:21] <gnomefreak> i like lostirc
[02:21] <Madpilot> fissy: https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu
[02:21] <n0ah> depends if i'm mainly working in gui or console that day
[02:21] <gnomefreak> its GUI
[02:21] <Kyral> ssstormy: gconf2
[02:21] <gnomefreak> bitchx-gtk :))
[02:21] <ssstormy> ok thanks!
[02:21] <fissy> Kyral, http://www.zorq.net/dump/top.png
[02:21] <n0ah> yeah i use that at work
[02:22] <fissy> ta Madpilot
[02:22] <fr0x> Anyone has installed firefox 1.5 without using ubuntu's aptcommand?
[02:22] <Nap_> when upgrading dapper by "apt-get dist-upgrade", I get " * Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd invoke-rc.d: initscript cupsys, action "force-reload" failed." and the upgrade process fails.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> fr0x, yes cause you cant use apt to get it
[02:22] <Nap_> what s the problem ?
[02:22] <fr0x> gnomefreak, so you have installed it manually?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> Nap_, could it be dapper is far from stable?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:23] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:23] <mwe> Nap_: if you don't know how to fix problems on your own please don't use dapper.
[02:23] <gnomefreak> fr0x,  yes
[02:23] <johndarkhorse> fr0x: there is no apt  command for firefox 1.5
[02:23] <Kyral> Nap_: thats harmless for now
[02:23] <fr0x> I see. It is stable though?
[02:23] <ssstormy> Kyral, how do you tell?  I can't find these things nearly so fast
[02:23] <do0b> reinstalling the lg
[02:23] <Ron_o> johndarkhorse: there might be but how about trying the synaptic package manager...
[02:23] <Kyral> ssstormy: install dlocate ;D
[02:23] <ssstormy> johndarkhorse, there is.  firefox 1.5 is in the debian SID
[02:24] <Nap_> mwe, gnomefreak : ok, I am willing to help, once I have found the problem, do I have to file it somewhere ?
[02:24] <Kyral> ssstormy: then use dlocate -S <file>
[02:24] <gnomefreak> fr0x, ff1.5 kind of goes both ways with stablity
[02:24] <ssstormy> Kyral, so that only works for files on te system already?
[02:24] <ssstormy> dang
[02:24] <Kyral> ssstormy: nope
[02:24] <gnomefreak> Nap_, search bugzilla before you attempt it again
[02:24] <fr0x> Thanque.
[02:24] <mwe> Nap_: file a bug if you believe you found a bug
[02:24] <ssstormy> really?  awsome
[02:24] <Kyral> ssstormy: it works for all
[02:24] <ssstormy> I'll remember that one
[02:24] <whiskthecat> some plz help
[02:24] <Nap_> ok guys, thanks
[02:24] <whiskthecat> this is p'n me off
[02:24] <gnomefreak> there is already a bug about cups that i know of
[02:24] <johndarkhorse> ssstormy: wow, cool
[02:25] <Kyral> Sid
[02:25] <swim> hey folks anyone running e17?
[02:25] <Kyral> is dangerious
[02:25] <gnomefreak> whiskthecat, what is the issue?
[02:25] <Kyral> do it if you want, be watch for breakage
[02:25] <whiskthecat> i have a 2wire dsl modem that i need to hook up with usb
[02:25] <gnomefreak> Nap_, if you have windows on that hard drive i would not upgrade to dapper
[02:25] <whiskthecat> is there any way
[02:26] <whiskthecat> this is the only reaon i dont like ubuntu
[02:26] <whiskthecat> reason*
[02:26] <daskog> Nvidia drivers are asking for somthin
[02:26] <daskog> lol
[02:26] <Kyral> what is a 2 wire DSL modem?
[02:26] <cafuego> whiskthecat: What? Don't blame Ubuntu for your appropriation of hardware that's not supported.
[02:27] <xJeff> start DIY ubuntu people! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Kyral, its a yahoo (sbc) modem
[02:27] <Kyral> Jeez, what would ahve these people thought 3 years ago
[02:27] <n0ah> whiskthecat: if only ya had a cat5 modem instead of usb eh?
[02:27] <Kyral> Wehn half the time we had to write our own drivers lol
[02:27] <halibut> how can i find my current cpu speed?
[02:27] <Kyral> halibut: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:27] <cafuego> whiskthecat: Did you plug the modem in and look at /var/log/syslog ?
[02:27] <xJeff> wbiskthecat: I have a 2wire sbc gateway myself
[02:28] <xJeff> I got it working
[02:28] <gnomefreak> whiskthecat, any reason you do have it hooked up with ethernet?
[02:28] <daskog> please be more mature than saying "Ubuntu suck's cause of lacks for this&that driver"!! Ubuntu is twice as much than what Windows has been all it's life
[02:28] <xJeff> whiskthecat, restart your gateway. ubuntu couldn't recononize it the first time for me too
[02:28] <Draken> once u got ubuntu working 100% on your system
[02:28] <Draken> there is NOTHING better
[02:28] <n0ah> Draken, it's getting there that's a bitch sometimes :p
[02:28] <Draken> ya
[02:29] <Kyral> lol
[02:29] <ColonelPanique> daskog : not completely true.  Windows is many many times more expen$$ive than Ubuntu! ;-)
[02:29] <Kyral> because we sync to the GNOME release cycle if you must know
[02:29] <swim> anyone know of an install script or debs for e17?
[02:29] <Draken> took me a week to get nvidia drivers to work so i could get into KDE :P
[02:29] <daskog> lol
[02:30] <do0b> xfce rocks ;)
[02:30] <n0ah> today i started playing with my sound, cause i got 5.1 surround speakers and now i'm having issues with rhythmbox
[02:30] <n0ah> drivin me nuts, it starts using 100% cpu when i go to play anything
[02:30] <daskog> i've been using linux for 19 Hours! Yay =) and i realised soon how nice Linux is & Ubuntu
[02:30] <whiskthecat> this is through usb xjeff
[02:30] <Draken> i mean, its the small things like moving your mouse over a textfile, and seeing the contents without opening it
[02:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: you're wrong. windows only takes about three years per release :|
[02:30] <Draken> simple things
[02:31] <do0b> i allmost don't use windows anymore
[02:31] <gnomefreak> lol mwe
[02:31] <xJeff> what model is that 2wire gateway?
[02:31] <whiskthecat> 1000sw
[02:31] <n0ah> i wanna play hl2 again.. and i wish x64 had even better support, but otherwise i'm fine
[02:31] <whiskthecat> is that the model number? im not sure
[02:32] <do0b> I'm not that much off agamer anymore :)
[02:32] <whiskthecat> when i restart it do i keep ubuntu on?
[02:32] <n0ah> i never was, but i paid my money and i enjoy playin a game every once in a while
[02:33] <gnomefreak> n0ah, 64bit if im not mistaken can use 32 bit apps
[02:33] <n0ah> yes it can.. i know
[02:33] <cafuego> gnomefreak: It's not ideal.
[02:33] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[02:33] <whiskthecat> jeff?
[02:33] <n0ah> ..but opera won't work
[02:33] <cafuego> n0ah: chroot
[02:33] <mwe> n0ah: yeah. I like my games too. I have a dedicated gaming pc. and then this laptop for ubuntu. I spend 95% of my computer time on the lappy though
[02:33] <whiskthecat> is he dead?
[02:33] <Madpilot> n0ah: Opera works fine in Ubuntu - I'm running it right now
[02:34] <Madpilot> !tell n0ah about opera
[02:34] <n0ah> Madpilot, 64-bit?
[02:34] <daskog> What About VMvare & Cedega for Pc games?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> Madpilot, 64bit opera?
[02:34] <xJeff> sorry
[02:34] <xJeff> I was looking at the wiki
[02:34] <Draken> im 64bit, im running VLC and xchat
[02:34] <Draken> all not 64bit
[02:34] <mwe> daskog: vmware doesn't support 3d and cedega will only run a fraction of your games
[02:34] <xJeff> I have a 1000HW ;) I restarted both system and the gateway
[02:34] <whiskthecat> through usb?
[02:34] <whiskthecat> not ethernet
[02:34] <daskog> but still
[02:35] <xJeff> I've only tried ethernet
[02:35] <daskog> i only Battlefield 2
[02:35] <n0ah> Draken, i'm running vlc, xchat, amsn, etc etc, none 64 bit (i'm assuming) but some things just won't work
[02:35] <whiskthecat> thats the prob
[02:35] <whiskthecat> it works for ethernet but i need usb
[02:35] <mwe> daskog: good for you. I play civilization IV
[02:35] <n0ah> i haven't checked which versions they are for sure, but afaik they're all 32bit
[02:35] <xJeff> So the gateway isn't giving your ubuntu an IP ? whiskthecat?
[02:35] <Draken> i havnt got a problem yet
[02:35] <daskog> does it work?
[02:35] <Draken> only like drivers and stuff need to be 64
[02:35] <gnomefreak> n0ah, most apps are 32bit (most popular arch
[02:36] <whiskthecat> hmmmmm?
[02:36] <whiskthecat> it doesnt auto detect
[02:36] <n0ah> Draken, nor have i, till i changed libesd0 to libesd-alsa0
[02:36] <whiskthecat> and its not under the network list
[02:36] <n0ah> now my rhythmbox won't work
[02:36] <n0ah> but everything else runs smooth and quick
[02:36] <Madpilot> n0ah: no, I run 32bit still - no idea about 64
[02:36] <xJeff> does the system detect the usb device?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> 32bit rulezzzzzzzzz
[02:37] <whiskthecat> how would i know
[02:37] <whiskthecat> hang on
[02:37] <n0ah> gnomefreak, my work box is 32bit ubuntu
[02:37] <daskog> i run amd x2 4400 + Gf7800 gtx and ++ pretty fast must i say..and all 64bit =)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> lsmod?
[02:37] <xJeff> lspci
[02:37] <whiskthecat> yep
[02:37] <whiskthecat> its under device manager
[02:37] <gnomefreak> lspci wont give usb output tho
[02:37] <n0ah> 3200 + gf6600gt
[02:37] <gnomefreak> its not a pci device
[02:38] <daskog> hehe
[02:38] <daskog> why?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> lol cafuego
[02:38] <mwe> n0ah: IMHO 32bit ubuntu is the better option for now
[02:38] <xJeff> doesn't lsmod only shows the modules loaded?
[02:38] <Shadyman_> Which runlevel is called when going into suspend?
[02:38] <Linfan> i just installed 855resolution how do i active it
[02:38] <whiskthecat> oh
[02:38] <gnomefreak> xJeff,  i dont know :((
[02:38] <whiskthecat> i didnt use that
[02:38] <Some_Body> well, download locked up again
[02:38] <n0ah> mwe, yeah i know, but i haven't got a spare optical drive to get my pile of parts 32bit machine running
[02:38] <Some_Body> hum-ho
[02:38] <whiskthecat> i used device manager
[02:39] <gnomefreak> dmesg should show everything :))
[02:39] <xJeff> device manage is good
[02:39] <Some_Body> rather, installation
[02:39] <xJeff> I don't know what could be the problem though
[02:39] <Some_Body> 6% instaling the base system
[02:39] <xJeff> whiskthecat, type ifconfig
[02:39] <gnomefreak> i lied :((
[02:39] <cafuego> daskog: When running 64bit i found a lot of media stuff just didn't work, or only half worked.
[02:39] <xJeff> and tell me what you see
[02:39] <Some_Body> after roughly 30 minutes
[02:39] <whiskthecat> nothing under lsmod
[02:39] <n0ah> cafuego, wmv with iv50 doesn't work, and alot of newer mov files
[02:39] <gnomefreak> lspci will show usb but just the type of controller it is
[02:40] <cafuego> n0ah: Indeed.
[02:40] <daskog> cafuego< more details please
[02:40] <xJeff> ifconfig?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> whiskthecat, use lspci and see if it sees it to start with
[02:40] <n0ah> if i could get wmv with iv50 (one of the most common) i'd be laughin
[02:40] <whiskthecat> link encap local loopback
[02:40] <cafuego> daskog: No java applets, no flash, bad performance on xvids.
[02:40] <whiskthecat> an ip
[02:40] <daskog> =/
[02:40] <whiskthecat>  some packets
[02:40] <n0ah> and cheering and jumping about
[02:41] <whiskthecat> 127.0.0.1
[02:41] <bluefoxicy> I have a question.
[02:41] <xJeff> whiskthecat, type ifconfig eth0 up
[02:41] <bluefoxicy> Why does the default CPU governor appear to be "userspace"
[02:41] <daskog> cafuego< all that i did not know about...but to late now..im not uninstalling Ubuntu 64 over 32
[02:41] <whiskthecat> up? too
[02:41] <n0ah> cafuego, i got flash working, no sound most of the time but otherwise it works
[02:41] <xJeff> yes
[02:41] <n0ah> flash 8 doesn't do animation very well though
[02:41] <bluefoxicy> and the userspace daemon appear to increase CPU clock as needed, and decrease the clock when not
[02:41] <bluefoxicy> I mean
[02:41] <bluefoxicy> seriously
[02:42] <bluefoxicy> the default setup is having "ondemand" exported to userspace
[02:42] <bluefoxicy> as opposed to just having the kernel by default use "ondeman" CPU frequency scaling
[02:42] <whiskthecat> no such device
[02:42] <Some_Body> blah, the computer in my room is cursed
[02:42] <cafuego> daskog: This is why it's important to havwe a separate /home :-)
[02:42] <xJeff> you need some kind of driver that I don't know...
[02:42] <mwe> bluefoxicy: what's the difference?
[02:42] <xJeff> Mehh.. Have to go for dinner now... good luck with it
[02:43] <maxwell> Pardon me, but could someone tell me what dh-make is?
[02:43] <whiskthecat> on the forums when people ask about usb 2wire either no one responds or they say to buy an ethernet card
[02:43] <gnomefreak> oh before i go cafuego if ubotu is "yours" the gnome site for the !gnome is down looks like server dies just to tell you maybe make him forget it?
[02:43] <n0ah> cafuego,  or as in my case a whole separate drive for /home
[02:43] <cafuego> maxwell: a .deb package helper script.
[02:43] <Zambba> Hey. I have process called gam_server which grabs too much of my cpu time. What can I do?
[02:43] <cafuego> !forget gnome
[02:43] <ubotu> i forgot gnome, cafuego
[02:44] <halibut> can anyone recommend to me a socket939 mobo which will be compatible with linux?
[02:44] <cafuego> gnomefreak: You can do that too, ubotu is like a wiki.
[02:44] <maxwell> Cafuego, could you tell me where to get that script?
[02:44] <mwe> bluefoxicy: how does anything know better than the kernel when the cpu is loaded?
[02:44] <swim> anyone know of an install script or debs for e17?
[02:44] <maxwell> Pretty much anything made by Asus should be compatible with Linux.
[02:44] <cafuego> maxwell: sudo apt-get install build-essential dpkg-dev
[02:44] <Some_Body> first it suddenly stops recognising my hard drive for no discernable reason, then it won't boot the floppy drive, followed by random pre-grub lockups, and now ubuntu won't install...
[02:44] <maxwell> Go for one of the Nforce4 chipset motherboard.
[02:44] <maxwell> Thanks, Cafuego.
[02:45] <cafuego> halibut: I prefer Gigabyte mobos. It should be quite hard to get something that's not supported.
[02:45] <maxwell> Some_Body: I don't know much about Linux, but it sounds like your motherboard is on the fritz.
[02:45] <daskog> what you mean?
[02:45] <daskog> separate home?
[02:45] <Draken> anyone know of a linux called, u like code a virus in the game and make the virus fight each other?
[02:45] <Draken> anyone know its name
[02:45] <TTT_Travis> Hi, I installed ubuntu server, but all that installed was the base how do I install all of the programs that come with it?
[02:45] <maxwell> Gigabyte's quality has decreased as of late.
[02:45] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  I think the same way top and gnome-system-monitor know the CPU is loaded.
[02:45] <cafuego> daskog: If /home is separated, you can always wipe all of the rest without affecting your settings and files.
[02:45] <Zambba> TTT_Travis: sudo apt-get install software
[02:45] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  but ubuntu uses powernowd instead of 'ondemand' or 'conservative'  :(
[02:45] <mwe> bluefoxicy: they query the cpu
[02:45] <Zambba> TTT_Travis: like sudo apt-get install apache2
[02:45] <daskog> ah ok
[02:45] <n0ah> beat me to it cafuego
[02:45] <HymnToLife> TTT_Travis > the same as in a classic desktop
[02:46] <daskog> i still have a lot of learning
[02:46] <HymnToLife> sudo apt-get install package-name
[02:46] <TTT_Travis> oh so whats the point of the server package
[02:46] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  My point is that we have a program that basically disables something the kernel is doing so that it can do the exact samet hing.
[02:46] <ortner> How do i check if i have reverse ip?
[02:46] <mwe> bluefoxicy: powernowd isn't that for amd?
[02:46] <TTT_Travis> you still have to install everything by hand
[02:46] <cafuego> daskog: That makes reinstalls 30 minute affairs, after which the system is as before :-)
[02:46] <daskog> just did the windows to linux switch
[02:46] <TTT_Travis> they should have some kind of selector or something
[02:46] <Draken> anyone know of a linux called, u like code a virus in the game and make the virus fight each other?
[02:46] <Draken> anyone know its name
[02:46] <cafuego> mwe: also for intel
[02:46] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  I dunno, it's in ubuntu-desktop.
[02:46] <Some_Body> ...no?
[02:46] <gnomefreak> thank cafuego i wasnt sure if i should do it or not so i asked you sorry
[02:46] <Some_Body> sounds fun though
[02:46] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  all it does is watch the CPU usage and tweak the CPU frequency through the sysfs interface.
[02:47] <Some_Body> like...an mmo version of hackerslab
[02:47] <timfrost> TTT_Travis, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will load the full set of packages from the CD for a Gnome desktop
[02:47] <mwe> bluefoxicy: ok. so it asks the cpu if it's busy and if it is tells it to alter the freq?
[02:47] <foampeace> hi
[02:48] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  pretty much.  Through whatever means, when you hit 100% CPU usage on a 1.8GHz CPU clocked at 1.0GHz, it raises the CPU speed to 1.8GHz
[02:48] <metho> hi
[02:48] <foampeace> anyne know how to make the w32codecs work with totem-gstreamer?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> timfrost,  not from cd if he adds the http sources and # the cdrom :))
[02:48] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  and then when usage drops back down, it decreases the CPU frequency back down.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell foampeace about codecs
[02:48] <metho> foampeace: use vlc, it works great!!!
[02:48] <timfrost> gnomefreak, true.
[02:48] <mwe> bluefoxicy: what's the advantage over the default ondemand option in the kernel, do you know?
[02:49] <Some_Body> ah screw it, I'm just getting a new processor
[02:49] <maxwell> Wait, sorry, just came back.
[02:49] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  I have no idea; honestly I think there is none.
[02:49] <maxwell> What did you need help with, Some_Body?
[02:49] <andrew_> i am trying to run a C program quickly from a vanilla ubuntu installation; could anyone help me get up and running^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcompiling?
[02:49] <daskog> brb
[02:49] <Some_Body> various issues with my motherboard
[02:49] <n0ah> arghhhh
[02:49] <Some_Body> I could get a new one
[02:49] <gnomefreak> Some_Body, while your out can you pick me up a new laptop?
[02:49] <n0ah> rhythmbox is drivin me nuts
[02:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:49] <mwe> bluefoxicy: that's what I was thinking. the program has to query the kernel anyway
[02:49] <Some_Body> sure, I'll leave it in detroit
[02:49] <Some_Body> :)
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ive seen p4 running at around 400-500 usd
[02:50] <Some_Body> but then again, the processor is a pentium II
[02:50] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  It appears to ignore the CPU load of niced programs
[02:50] <Some_Body> rather outdated, n'est pas?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> i have a bunch of p2s and 2 p3s i think
[02:50] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  so if you're running seti@home and it's hitting 100% CPU at 66mhz, it leaves your CPU at 66mhz until you try to do something else.
[02:50] <mwe> bluefoxicy: but I guess the power daemon does more than control the cpu speed, doesn't it?
[02:50] <maxwell> I need some high-end P3's. Interested in selling them?
[02:51] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  http://www.deater.net/john/powernowd.html
[02:51] <timfrost> andrew_, sudo apt-get install buildessential.  Then add the development packages that suipply libraries the program needs.
[02:51] <maxwell> Also, Some_Body: I'm trying to set up a direct chat.
[02:51] <gnomefreak> this pos dell wont let me run anything over 500mhz :((
[02:51] <maxwell> That's because it's a Dell.
[02:51] <andrew_> timfrost: cheers; i thought there was a metapkg for that.
[02:51] <mwe> bluefoxicy: so maybe it's more advanced than the kernel built in thing
[02:51] <n0ah> 486, p2 450, duron 1000, athlon 1800, athlon xp 3200 all the ones i own
[02:51] <johndarkhorse> andrew_: it's build-essential, btw
[02:51] <andrew_> johndarkhorse: cheers.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> maxwell, your right they put limits on the bios for the mbs so you have to get new pc if you want more speed
[02:52] <timfrost> andrew_, build-essential is the metapackage that pulls in the compiler, make, etc
[02:52] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  yes but it's in typical use not needed
[02:52] <maxwell> You could theoretically flash the Bios, though.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> build-essential is just that essential
[02:52] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  if you run seti@home on a laptop, you should be smart enough to install powernowd
[02:52] <maxwell> What is powernowd?
[02:53] <andrew_> timfrost: yes, i got gcc, but couldn't remember libc6-dev for the libs and all. :)
[02:53] <gnomefreak> andrew_, for what?
[02:53] <foampeace> !easysource
[02:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:53] <gnomefreak> the compile of amsn?
[02:53] <andrew_> gnomefreak: ima kill you. :-P
[02:54] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get build-dep amsn should give you most of the libs :))
[02:54] <gnomefreak> andrew_, i told you to stick with the amsn you have
[02:54] <andrew_> gnomefreak: http://www.gnome.org/~jamesh/code/gvfs-list-drives.c (something a guy in #gnome recommended i try)
[02:54] <andrew_> gnomefreak: are you serious?
[02:54] <Some_Body> aw, freenode doesn't allow kill?
[02:54] <andrew_> gnomefreak: i've never used an MSN chat program (gah)... are you thinking of someone else?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> andrew_, why do i have a source code on my screen?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> maybe :((
[02:55] <isillight> anyone get TclX to compile?
[02:55] <gnomefreak> andrew_, give me a hint on what code this is?
[02:55] <andrew_> gnomefreak: i was asking about the windows icon on the gnome desktop.
[02:55] <andrew_> gnomefreak: i'm not too sure what is, basically a gnome-vfs debugger.
[02:55] <gnomefreak> andrew_, ohhhh me and window icons or windows ar not freinds
[02:56] <mwe> bluefoxicy: yeah. the kernel built in used to do a good job for me.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> get to typing :))
[02:56] <andrew_> gnomefreak: me either.  but my parents want it around, i'm just trying to get it off the desktop.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:56] <Arrogance> has the kernel on the Breezy ISO been updated since Breezy was released?
[02:56] <Christians4GNT2> Hello Ubuntu users, I have found GAIM 2.0 .debs for breezy, there is also OTR encryption debs: http://files.madskillz.cc/debs/
[02:56] <Sturgeon> I keep getting messages like this in dmesg:  Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[02:56] <Sturgeon> any idea what could this be?
[02:57] <Madpilot> Arrogance: I don't think they update the ISOs after release
[02:57] <gnomefreak> youll be glad to knwo its writen in c
[02:57] <andrew_> Christians4GNT2: cheers, that's nice.  i've been using it on arch and it's quite a good change, overall.
[02:57] <Christians4GNT2> Yes, it is very nice.
[02:57] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  besidse that, the userspace daemon has to poll, so there is a delay between CPU spiking and CPU frequency adjustment
[02:57] <andrew_> gnomefreak: you talking to me?
[02:57] <Arrogance> Madpilot, thanks
[02:57] <gnomefreak> andrew_, yes want an easy way to do this?
[02:57] <mwe> Sturgeon: probably your hotkeys or wifi switch or something like that
[02:57] <Sturgeon> and what could I do to fix it?
[02:57] <Sturgeon> hotkeys?
[02:57] <andrew_> gnomefreak: please, this is my parents' computer; i don't need lots of dev tools on it. :)
[02:58] <Sturgeon> This is a standard keyboard, no hotkeys or anything
[02:58] <gnomefreak> andrew_, i meant this sourcecode
[02:58] <maxwell> Pardon, but does anyone know what's up with the "fakeroot" command?
[02:58] <mwe> bluefoxicy: well the kernel also polls. the cpu doesn't know anything about the kernel
[02:58] <Sturgeon> spanish keyboard btw
[02:58] <andrew_> gnomefreak: so did i; that came out wrong.  ahem.  I would like an easy way to do this. ;)
[02:58] <alphy> I just downloaded a huge torrent file and I can't get any of the files to play using Totem or Beep.  any help?
[02:58] <Madpilot> alphy: what format are they in?
[02:58] <andrew_> alphy: try mplayer
[02:58] <gnomefreak> lol andrew_ i dont know anything about vfs
[02:58] <andrew_> alphy: if that won't run it, nothing will. :-P
[02:59] <alphy> madpilot, mp3
[02:59] <fancyydk> hello
[02:59] <yuma> g'night everyone
[02:59] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[02:59] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:59] <andrew_> gnomefreak: ok, so what "easy way" do you mean?
[02:59] <Madpilot> alphy: do you have mp3 codecs installed?
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  delay in the kernel is 50mS
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> a 50mS poll in userspace would be fairly taxing.
[02:59] <n0ah> ..i have more mp3's than i could possibly listen to :S
[02:59] <n0ah> 6500 now ;/
[02:59] <fancyydk> Hi, is there a way I can install flash player on 64-bit Ubuntu?
[02:59] <bluefoxicy> lol n0ah
[02:59] <gnomefreak> andrew_, paste the code into an editer save than compile with the same command at top of source
[03:00] <bluefoxicy> I have 4 days 2 hours and 2 minutes of music
[03:00] <andrew_> gnomefreak: lol... i know that much. :-P
[03:00] <johndarkhorse> fancyydk: in a chroot (maybe)
[03:00] <n0ah> about 80% legit too
[03:00] <alphy> madpilot, well, I've been using Beep to play my mp3's and have had no problems so I can't figure out why beep won't play these
[03:00] <mwe> bluefoxicy: It says on the page you pointed me to, that you can set the poll to whatever you like. however I think I can wait on second. but I agree it seems unnecesary to use the powernowd in most cases
[03:00] <gnomefreak> andrew_, im thinking that if you have vfs installed it should have all the libs that this source is calling
[03:00] <alphy> madpilot, to answer your question, no.
[03:00] <maxwell> Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules
[03:00] <andrew_> gnomefreak: i think i'll need a -dev package, no?
[03:00] <maxwell> Gah, that did'nt work.
[03:00] <gnomefreak> you might andrew_
[03:00] <johndarkhorse> andrew_: -dev packages are great
[03:00] <andrew_> gnomefreak: it's not finding a pkg-config file atm.
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  nod, though in high intensity applications you might see a burp with a sudden CPU upramp.
[03:01] <fancyydk> oh... but by doing chroot, how will that make a difference? could you explain or show me a website that has instructions on how to do it?
[03:01] <n0ah> 18 days, 4 hours, 58 minutes, that's not including the 6 new cd's i got for christmas
[03:01] <Madpilot> !tell alphy about mp3
[03:01] <andrew_> johndarkhorse: i hate them and the fact that i need them.  (on arch, there's no separation.)
[03:01] <gnomefreak> what lib are you trying to get?
[03:01] <bluefoxicy> mwe: setting polling to 50mS would result in something like 4% CPU usage in itself
[03:01] <maxwell> Pardon, but I'm stuck on something.
[03:01] <mwe> bluefoxicy: do you think so?
[03:01] <maxwell> maxwell@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.7$ fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules
[03:01] <maxwell> bash: fakeroot: command not found
[03:02] <johndarkhorse> maxwell: install fakeroot
[03:02] <maxwell> What the blazes is going on?
[03:02] <andrew_> WOW! O_O  libgnomevfs2-dev has buku deps!
[03:02] <gnomefreak> maxwell,  sudo apt-get install fakeroot
[03:02] <maxwell> I think I need a brain transplant.
[03:02] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  2.3% then.
[03:03] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  2.0% minimum, 2.3% maximum.
[03:03] <Some_Body> well, I'm attempting to convert a large group of gamefaqs users into using linux users...
[03:03] <Some_Body> a mission destined for failure
[03:03] <timfrost> andrew_, how goes the download?
[03:03] <maxwell> Linux is a marvellous OS. Pity it's got such a steep learning curve.
[03:03] <Some_Body> so much ignorance :(
[03:04] <Some_Body> well, not necessarily
[03:04] <Some_Body> start with Knopix
[03:04] <Some_Body> rather basic and easy to understand
[03:04] <bluefoxicy> uh
[03:04] <bluefoxicy> start with an ubuntu livecd
[03:04] <livewyer> I started on Fedora 1, and it was pretty easy to get used to
[03:04] <bluefoxicy> drop it in, hit enter 3 times
[03:04] <maxwell> It feels a lot like Macintosh OSX, but with more high-level functionality and trickier to use.
[03:04] <Some_Body> then go to, say, fedora
[03:04] <Some_Body> then ubuntu
[03:04] <tipnmo> can anyone offer help with ati drivers?????  i follow the guide exactly http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584  , but fglrxinfo shows Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:04] <tipnmo> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:04] <tipnmo> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[03:04] <maxwell> I've already installed Ubuntu, I'm still getting used to it.
[03:04] <andrew_> timfrost: just fine, thanks.  worked like a charm.  i hate -dev packages (had to install 14 of them just for libgnomevfs2-dev) but whatev. :-P
[03:04] <mwe> bluefoxicy: isn't 1/50ms like 20 times a sec? if one poll takes 15 cpu instructions that would make 300/sec put that against a 2ghz processor that would give you a 300/2000000000 fraction cpu load
[03:04] <gnomefreak> dapper is having ruby issues grrrrrrrrrr
[03:05] <maxwell> Matrox pwns all :)
[03:05] <robert__> I've installed ubuntu, yet I cannot get the sound to work.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> anjuta is screwed too :((
[03:05] <Some_Body> heh, I'm amazed at how far I've come from about 4 years ago, when I couldn't get a D-link ethernet card to work in windows 98...
[03:05] <zeeeee> hi all, a long time ago i installed ubuntu alongside windows. now i want to reinstall windows, but that'll overwrite the mbr, right? so how do i make sure i continue to boot to lilo after i reinstall windows?
[03:05] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell zeeeee about recover
[03:05] <gnomefreak> that was easy
[03:05] <andrew_> Some_Body: whee!  fun times, eh?
[03:06] <Some_Body> yep ^_^
[03:06] <gnomefreak> anjuta
[03:06] <Some_Body> I found out why it didn't work
[03:06] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  Don't forget that a 2GHz Athlon can take 2-3 cycles to do 1 instruction for the most simple (except INC and DEC, which are 1 cycle instructions); while a Pentium 4 3GHz can take 5-7 cycles on a typical instruction.
[03:06] <gnomefreak> sorry that was for termm
[03:06] <Some_Body> I was shoving the ethernet cable into the usb port
[03:06] <derek> there, bitchx-gtk (:
[03:06] <andrew_> Some_Body: lol... wow, that IS a long way! :-P
[03:06] <Some_Body> because it looked like it fit
[03:06] <mwe> bluefoxicy: it would still be way,way under 1 percent load
[03:06] <twysted> o_)
[03:06] <twysted> o_0
[03:06] <Some_Body> the tech support was baffled
[03:07] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  ok so that wasn't fair for the P4, the P4 can do the same 2-3 cycles per instruction, it's just that it tries to branch predict and fails too damn much and creates that kind of inefficiency
[03:07] <andrew_> Some_Body: i mean, the modem phone port, sure... but the USB port?!
[03:07] <maxwell> Yet another problem, and one that has a rather more obscure cause.
[03:07] <Some_Body> :(
[03:07] <ilba7r> gnomefreek just wondering what is your prob with anjuta?
[03:07] <maxwell> maxwell@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ndiswrapper-1.7$ fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules
[03:07] <maxwell> sed -e 's/#KVERS#/2.6.12-9-386/g' \
[03:07] <maxwell> -e 's/#DRIVER_VERSION#/1.7/g' \
[03:07] <maxwell> -e 's/#UTILS_VERSION#/1.7/g' \
[03:07] <maxwell> -e 's/#DATE#/'"`date --rfc-822`"'/g' \
[03:07] <maxwell>         -e 's/#MAINT#/Giridhar Pemmasani <pgiri@users.sourceforge.net>/g' \
[03:07] <maxwell>         debian/changelog.modules > debian/changelog
[03:07] <maxwell> /bin/sh: debian/changelog: Permission denied
[03:07] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  anyway I just pointed gnome system monitor at it at 50mS
[03:07] <johndarkhorse> good grief!
[03:07] <bluefoxicy> was that a /kick?
[03:08] <Some_Body> looks like it
[03:08] <Some_Body> anti-flood script?
[03:08] <bluefoxicy> requested?
[03:08] <johndarkhorse> bluefoxicy: it was not
[03:08] <mwe> bluefoxicy: if we say 10 cycles per instruction you get 3000/2000000000 = 3/2000000 or .00015 %
[03:08] <gnomefreak> its a bug in dapper
[03:08] <Some_Body> oh, wait
[03:08] <Some_Body> no, he used /part
[03:08] <maxwell> Could someone explain why I was just kicked off?
[03:08] <johndarkhorse> maxwell: please read the /topic and dont paste in here
[03:08] <ilba7r> ok gnomegreak i am out of league then :)
[03:09] <twysted> maxwell you were pasting
[03:09] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell maxwell about paste
[03:09] <PeteyPablo> wake up are you alive? can you listen to me
[03:09] <PeteyPablo> somone is gonna die when you listen to m
[03:09] <livewyer> Some, I can't remember for the life of me how to properly burn a bootable cd, such as an ubuntu live cd.  Suggestions?
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  yes but every call to poll means a syscall, which has an expensive context switch, executes about 200 entry point instructions, then a file system read syscall, which falls through the sysfs or procfs wrappers and lots of procfs code
[03:09] <derek> hm, i can't decide if i like bitchx better or irssi
[03:09] <gnomefreak> now i remember :((
[03:09] <twysted> livewyer burn it as a image
[03:09] <maxwell> Sorry about that.
[03:09] <livewyer> right....but each program has its quirky way of doing so
[03:09] <PeteyPablo> !tell livewyer about gnomebaker
[03:09] <livewyer> how about in k3b?
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  there's likely several tens of thousands of instructions required for a read :)
[03:10] <Some_Body> which program are you running?
[03:10] <PeteyPablo> Gnome baker
[03:10] <mwe> bluefoxicy: I would like to see how somthing that simple would load your system by 2%
[03:10] <livewyer> or we could go with xcdroast
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> okay guys.. this is really embarassing but i need help -- what foleder do i put .ttf files in so that any program i use can see them?
[03:11] <binarydigit> shadeofgrey: why is that embarassing
[03:11] <Some_Body> http://www.linuxiso.org/
[03:11] <PeteyPablo> /etc/X11/fonts shadeofgrey
[03:11] <fissy> ~/.fonts/ shadeofgrey
[03:11] <Some_Body> er, to livewyr
[03:11] <johndarkhorse> shadeofgrey: /home/shadeofgray/.fonts
[03:11] <daskog> Do Ubuntu 5.10 have support for higher resolution than 1024 on a Gf 7800gtx without installing any driver?
[03:11] <shadeofgrey> binarydigit:  because its a simple thing... i just forgot
[03:12] <PeteyPablo> daskog: no
[03:12] <twysted>  daskog> more then likely NO
[03:12] <maxwell> I doubt it.
[03:12] <daskog> Ok
[03:12] <livewyer> Some, thanks
[03:12] <maxwell> That said, running Linux on a 500$ card like the GTX without drivers is rather pointless.
[03:12] <Some_Body> no problem
[03:12] <twysted> lol
[03:12] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  open() -> open() prologue (20 or 30 instructions) -> syscall() -> syscall() prologue -> context switch (expensive, about 200 cycles for one operation) -> ~100 instructions at kernel syscall entry (entry.S and friends) -> sys_open() -> vfs code -> procfs code -> cpufreq code -> return out -> context switch back to userspace -> syscall() epilogue -> open() epilogue
[03:12] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  Repeat for read()
[03:12] <daskog> Well im sure Softimage Xsi likes the card =P
[03:12] <maxwell> Does anyone know what the Debian/Changelog is?
[03:13] <zeeeee> thanks johndarkhorse
[03:13] <gnomefreak> anyone know of a GUI IDE other than anjuta for gnome?
[03:13] <shadeofgrey> if i want the font globally available petey's suggestion is best correct?
[03:13] <twysted> maxwell check the debian site or ask in the debian channel
[03:13] <johnf> hi
[03:13] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  then do some light computations that don't much matter.
[03:13] <maxwell> I'm running Ubuntu.
[03:13] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  repeat 20 times a second.  ;)
[03:13] <johnf> is anyone her familiar with kismet?
[03:13] <maxwell> No.
[03:13] <PeteyPablo> maxwell: ubuntu is based off debian
[03:13] <maxwell> Good point.
[03:13] <irvin> maxwell, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-dpkgchangelog
[03:14] <kassah_> ever since I upgraded from 5.04 to 5.10... I've been getting the message http://pastebin.com/486670 in all of the automated upgrade gnome tools
[03:14] <maxwell> Thanks.
[03:14] <daskog> Ubuntu = Yet another Debian base distroe =P
[03:14] <kassah_> I used the command line version of the upgrade
[03:14] <maxwell> Could someone explain what this command does? fakeroot debian/rules binary-modules
[03:14] <irvin> maxwell, i think you'll get more info reading the developer resources at debian.org
[03:14] <TokenBad> ok if I did apt-get of a file...and it installed it...where does it install it?
[03:14] <twysted> kassah_ paste yor /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin
[03:14] <mwe> bluefoxicy: it seems your knowledge if the inner workings of it is more than what I know about it
[03:14] <johnf> is anyone her familiar with kismet?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> maxwell, it doesnt tell you where you got it from what it does?
[03:15] <PeteyPablo> TokenBad: /usr/bin/ probably
[03:15] <twysted> johnf just ask yor question
[03:15] <TokenBad> well I need to get the config file..but I don't know what dir it installed to
[03:15] <maxwell> It's for "building debian packages".
[03:15] <ilba7r> kassah i think you just need to run sudo apt-get update
[03:15] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  I used to read kernel code for fun
[03:15] <maxwell> I imagine that I should ask in the Debian forum, but it's for installing NIDSwrapper under Ubuntu.
[03:16] <PeteyPablo> maxwell: debian packages work perfectly on ubuntu
[03:16] <twysted> peteypablo thats a lie
[03:16] <Some_Body> I'm too lazy to check...does the ubuntu forum support html?
[03:16] <PeteyPablo> no it isn't
[03:16] <daskog> Im trying to install the Nvidia driver and i get this:   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[03:16] <daskog>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[03:16] <daskog>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[03:16] <TokenBad> PeteyPablo, I need to edit the config file..but no idea what dir the config file is in
[03:16] <Some_Body> ...nope
[03:16] <twysted> peteypablo 99% of ubuntu and debian packages break one system or another
[03:16] <johnf> i have installed kismet through synaptic and now i configed the kismet.conf file right to my knowledge and it get a error keep comming up : GetIFFlags
[03:16] <PeteyPablo> twysted: now thats a lie
[03:16] <mwe> bluefoxicy: I see :)
[03:17] <PeteyPablo> TokenBad: for what program?
[03:17] <kassah_> twysted, http://pastebin.com/486674
[03:17] <TokenBad> iroffer
[03:17] <Stormx2> port 5651 isn't open to the outside world. How do I open it. Is there some kind of built-in firewall?
[03:17] <daskog> id be glad if someone could help me with this one
[03:17] <kassah_> ilba7r, trying it
[03:17] <cmatheso1> Stormx2: no, it must be in your router
[03:17] <PeteyPablo> cmatheso1: thats not true
[03:17] <twysted> kassh_ it looks fine just try a apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[03:17] <mwe> bluefoxicy: however, starting powernowd with -p20 still shows 0.0% cpu load for it
[03:17] <PeteyPablo> Stormx2: do you have firestarter installed?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> im beginning to think i need to fix anjuta :((
[03:17] <TokenBad> is there a way to update the info that locate uses?
[03:18] <PeteyPablo> TokenBad: updatedb
[03:18] <Stormx2> PeteyPablo: Installed, but not running.
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  true.  I guess it only gets about a million cycles a second.
[03:18] <PeteyPablo> Stormx2: open it and added a policy for the port
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> mwe: I'm looking at a gnome applet for a reference, there's lots of drawing code which comes out to be the same thing.
[03:18] <Snurf> When i try and boot Ubuntu i get: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:18] <TokenBad> thanks PeteyPablo...maybe this will tell me where its at
[03:18] <Snurf> Whats my problem?
[03:18] <mwe> bluefoxicy: I see
[03:19] <shadeofgrey> okay i dont have a .fonts directory in my home...  not even among the hidden files and folders there
[03:19] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  of course i'm on athlon 64
[03:19] <Stormx2> cmatheso1: Its not my router. It works fine on windows.
[03:19] <shadeofgrey> so where do i put all my brand new fonts then?
[03:19] <PeteyPablo> Stormx2: open it and added a policy for the port
[03:19] <cmatheso1> Stormx2: do you have a service running on that port?
[03:19] <johnf> i have installed kismet through synaptic and now i configed the kismet.conf file right to my knowledge and it get a error keep comming up : GetIFFlags
[03:20] <kassah_> ilba7r, seems to have worked... thanks!
[03:20] <mwe> bluefoxicy: oh yeah. I'd like that. do you know a lot about the kernel?
[03:20] <shadeofgrey> bluefoxicy:  amd64 support in ubuntu blows rancid ardvark balls at the moment
[03:20] <Snurf> When i try and boot Ubuntu i get: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:20] <Stormx2> cmatheso1: No.
[03:20] <Snurf> WHats wrong
[03:20] <ilba7r> kassah you are welcomed you just needed to update apt with the new package lists
[03:20] <Shadyman> shadeofgrey: Ew.
[03:20] <bluefoxicy> shadeofgrey:  AMD64 ubuntu crashes a lot.
[03:20] <cmatheso1> Stormx2: then what were you expecting to happen?
[03:20] <Stormx2> cmatheso1: It was firestarter.
[03:20] <timfrost> kassh_, does directory /var/lib/apt/lists exist? (and is there free sace on that filesystem)?
[03:20] <derek> bluefoxicy: not for me
[03:20] <Stormx2> cmatheso1: I was running a server off it.
[03:20] <shadeofgrey> hey
[03:21] <gnomefreak> night all
[03:21] <Stormx2> Good night
[03:21] <shadeofgrey> guys how about a tad bit of love for me for a few moments..  i need some font help
[03:21] <maxwell> #flood
[03:21] <twysted> shadeofgrey you can make the .fonts folder
[03:21] <Christians4GNT2> What else should I have in my apt sources? http://files.madskillz.cc/test/test.txt
[03:21] <maxwell> It's quite obvious I'm a noob, yes?
[03:22] <Snurf> When i try and boot Ubuntu i get: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:22] <shadeofgrey> where should i put it if i want it gllbally abailable
[03:22] <maxwell> Seriously, though, could someone tell me how #flood works?
[03:22] <figfig> How do I get unicode working with ubuntu?
[03:22] <mwe> bluefoxicy: so did you just start reading kernel code, or did you read a book first or what?
[03:22] <figfig> when I use less on a unicode fiel it does not work.
[03:22] <twysted> snuf, did u change motherboards or soemthing or did that error just happen out of nowhere?
[03:22] <Snurf> Nowhere
[03:22] <cmatheso1> figfig: what terminal emulator are you using?
[03:23] <twysted> snurf, odd check out the recovery page on the wiki
[03:23] <maxwell> Has anyone had any success with NIDSwrapper under Breezy Badger?
[03:23] <Kyral> yah
[03:23] <bluefoxicy> mwe:  I harassed numerous people and picked up a lot of concepts along the way
[03:24] <maxwell> I'm still trying to install it.
[03:24] <mwe> maxwell: I had succes locking up the system a lot, before I got ipw2200 working
[03:24] <misfit_toy> maxwell, I did but I no longer use that wifi card.
[03:24] <Friar_tuck> Is there any way you can make it that you dont have to type a password to sign into ubuntu?
[03:24] <maxwell> I can't install the blasted thing.
[03:24] <Kyral> Yes and we WON"T tell you for very good reasons
[03:24] <mwe> bluefoxicy: heh. ok. that's one way to learn
[03:25] <maxwell> It's telling me /bin/sh: debian/changelog: Permission denied
[03:25] <maxwell> make: *** [build-utils-prep]  Error 1
[03:25] <Friar_tuck> cos we dont wanna have to sype passwords in all the time
[03:25] <maxwell> Sorry about that, I was just trying to copy the "error" line.
[03:26] <Hericus> maxwell, tried sudo?
[03:26] <maxwell> Should I replace fakeroot with Sudo?
[03:26] <mwe> bluefoxicy: I was thinking about getting to know some of the inner working of the kernel a bit better myself. that's why I asked
[03:26] <figfig> cmathesol: what does that mean?
[03:26] <Hericus> Try sudo yes, if that doesn't work look for an alternative name to the package.
[03:27] <cmatheso1> figfig: are you trying to read this text-file in X or at the console?
[03:27] <maxwell> With sudo, I get this: make: dh_testdir: Command not found
[03:27] <misfit_toy> Friar, start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27995&highlight=login+password+skip
[03:28] <ecarroll> Is there an archive that has postgres 8.1?
[03:28] <figfig> cmathesol: in a console in X
[03:28] <johndarkhorse> maxwell: you are missing some debian maintainer tools
[03:28] <maxwell> What do I have to install now?
[03:28] <cmatheso1> figfig: ok, it's not a console if it's in X, it's a terminal emulator... but which one are you running? gnome-terminal? xterm? eterm? aterm? etc?
[03:28] <misfit_toy> Friar_tuck, start here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27995&highlight=login+password+skip
[03:28] <ecarroll> Is there an archive that has postgres 8.1, without moving to dopper.
[03:28] <maxwell> I've got Breezy Badger, and about two dozen packages that looked helpful.
[03:28] <figfig> xterm
[03:29] <HiddenWolf> ecarroll, dapper, and I doubt it, not officially.
[03:29] <ecarroll> HiddenWolf: why hasn't it been backported?
[03:29] <Friar_tuck> thanks
[03:29] <mwe> ecarroll: do you need anything specific in the latest version?
[03:29] <HiddenWolf> ecarroll, because backports restrict themselves to apps that have limited impact and don't bring in new libraries.
[03:29] <ajmitch> maxwell: build-essential, debhelper
[03:29] <ecarroll> mwe alot.
[03:30] <cmatheso1> figfig: yeah you're not going to be able to view unicode stuff in xterm... you'll have to get a mulit-language termnial for that (mlterm, gnome-terminal, etc.)
[03:30] <mwe> ecarroll: like what, if I may ask?
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> How can I open the modem using the sound card, such that I could check to see whether there is a dial tone?  (To make sure I'm not interupting someone else's session.)
[03:30] <maxwell> How would I got Debhelper?
[03:30] <ecarroll> hwe import w/ header, predeclared output on func
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> The very early stage of running wvdial does this just before it starts dialing; I'd like to emulate the very beginning of that sequence.
[03:31] <maxwell> Nevermind, found it with Synaptic.
[03:31] <figfig> cmathesol: I see.  Let me apt-get some stuff and see if it works.
[03:31] <Some_Body> woo, first forum post
[03:31] <figfig> cmathesol: thanks
[03:31] <cmatheso1> figfig: cool, good luck
[03:31] <ecarroll> It should be in the backport archive =[
[03:31] <halibut> is linux all ok with pcie graphics cards?
[03:32] <cafuego> halibut: buying amd64?
[03:32] <ecarroll> halibut: that doesn't matter, only the make and drivers
[03:32] <halibut> cafuego, yeah, any advice?
[03:32] <cafuego> halibut: nvidia
[03:33] <ecarroll> definitly nvidia.
[03:33] <halibut> i have been advised for to get VIA chipset mobo though?
[03:33] <phos-phoros_> just blame canada
[03:34] <halibut> rather than nforce
[03:34] <Shadyman> Exactly. Blame us.
[03:34] <cafuego> halibut: Well, as far as I'm aware nforce ones are marginally faster... but I was referring to a video card actually :-)
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> I tried reading /usr/bin/wvdial, but it said it was being converted from Mac format, and was a bunch of jibberish.
[03:35] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Why would you read a binary files?
[03:35] <derek> lol
[03:35] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: What were you trying to accomplish?
[03:35] <maxwell> DH-helper seems to have disappeared.
[03:35] <Kyral> debhelper
[03:36] <maxwell> I just installed it.
[03:36] <sportmankid> ok i definatly need help
[03:36] <sportmankid> i really screwed up graphics
[03:36] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Because I don't really know what I'm looking for, but want to know what happens early on in wvdial.  I'd like to be able to basically open the modem and put the phone line through to the sound card so I can hear if there is a dial tone or something else, without actually going on and doing anything, like dialing.
[03:36] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: You'd need a cable going from the modem to the sound card then, IN the machine.
[03:37] <maxwell> I just installed Debhelper under Synaptic; why the heck won't DH-make work?
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Chances that exists?
[03:37] <Kyral> its dh_make
[03:37] <sportmankid> how can i reconfigure everything
[03:37] <maxwell> sorry, it's DH_helper that won't work.
[03:37] <sportmankid> cause with glxgears i get the error
[03:37] <sorush20> how do I find out who is writing which modules
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: My pondering with wvdial is that I can hear a dial tone or other things that are happening on the line right away when I run it, before it starts dialing.
[03:38] <sportmankid> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:38] <sportmankid> and its slow and tux racer is like 10fps
[03:38] <sportmankid> i tried installing ati drivers
[03:38] <sportmankid> so i thought id be good, but apparently not
[03:38] <sportmankid> :(
[03:38] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Well, what you WERE doing is equivalent to opening notepad.exe in word and looking for useful info.
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Ah.  So what would an intelligent person who knew what they were doing have done?
[03:39] <maxwell> Can anyone tell me why DH-helper won't work, even though I've installed Debhelper?
[03:39] <maxwell> Should I reboot?
[03:40] <johndarkhorse> maxwell: rebooting is only necessary when you've replaced a kernel (and not critical then, unless you need the new kernel features immediately)
[03:40] <dabaR__> !apt-setup
[03:40] <ubotu> dabaR__: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:40] <timfrost> maxwell, the tool names start with "dh", not "DH".  Remember that linux is case-sensitive
[03:40] <maxwell> And, having reinstalled ndiswrapper 1.1, can I reinstall it through synaptic?
[03:40] <maxwell> Ah.
[03:40] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: try to link the modem audio port up with the soundcard modem port.
[03:40] <maxwell> Still, I'm just copying it off of the HOWTO.
[03:40] <johndarkhorse> maxwell: perhaps the debian/rules stuff isnt properly there?
[03:40] <maxwell> What do you mean?
[03:40] <dabaR__> Does apt-setup produce meaningful lines in Ubuntu? it does off course, right?
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: How do I do that?
[03:41] <timfrost> maxwell, what HOWTO?
[03:41] <drcode> hi all
[03:41] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: By opeining up the box and checking if either cards have headers for accomplishing this.
[03:41] <sportmankid> meh this sux
[03:41] <figfig> cmathesol: that did it, thanks.
[03:41] <maxwell> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=104539
[03:41] <dabaR__> !sucks
[03:41] <ubotu> [sucks]  a word you should NOT use in #ubuntu
[03:41] <drcode> any one know if there is software that can connect to edonkey network and can be controll by cellur phone?
[03:42] <tb77> when trying to compile a program, i get "error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!", any ideas?
[03:42] <dabaR__> haha
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Not a fan of opening things up on this machine, nor do I even understand what that part meant, so I wouldn't know what to look for.
[03:42] <meepy> !meep
[03:42] <ubotu> meepy: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:42] <PeteyPablo> drcode: what a wierd question
[03:42] <meepy> :|
[03:42] <johndarkhorse> !xincludes
[03:42] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[03:42] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Then I'd just give up, coz it's not going to happen unless you plug the hardware together.
[03:42] <tb77> ubotu: thank! will do.
[03:42] <ubotu> sure thing, tb77
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Okay.  It was worth a shot.  Thanks.
[03:43] <sportmankid> im soo lost :(
[03:43] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Well, *maybe* you can select the modem as audio device in the prefs and see if that does anything.
[03:43] <sportmankid> can someone pm me to help
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Where's that?
[03:43] <sportmankid> cause i followed tuts and broke my system
[03:43] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Prefs -> Sound
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, All I see is Intel ICH6.
[03:44] <sportmankid> hmm
[03:44] <sportmankid> ati-radeon9600 mobility, installed drivers, system broke fixed it with some config thing, really slow graphics now
[03:44] <sportmankid> :(
[03:45] <jimmy13632> how do iget on the internet with ubuntu?
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> jimmy13632, What kind of connection?
[03:45] <johndarkhorse> jimmy13632: ask a question with more info in it
[03:45] <sportmankid> im using my wireless netgear card
[03:45] <jimmy13632> tcp
[03:45] <PeteyPablo> ..
[03:46] <timfrost> maxwell. the instructions there look correct (using "dh").  Which post in the thread were  you looking at?
[03:46] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: No joy then.
[03:46] <ColonelPanique> jimmy13632 : what, no x.25?! ;-0\
[03:46] <Knowerrors> Anybody using flashplugin-nonfree with firefox having problems with animations?
[03:46] <jimmy13632> How do I setup my internet connection, like with a router
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Oh well.  I'll go find a snack or something, and then there will be joy.
[03:46] <_tcc> What language is ubotu coded in?
[03:46] <dabaR__> jimmy13632: did you have the connection on the router up when you were installing?
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> jimmy13632: if your router is functioning, ubuntu should get online just fine
[03:47] <jimmy13632> no
[03:47] <dabaR__> jimmy13632: then add eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces, right, johndarkhorse?
[03:47] <_tcc> UBOTU IS A FUCKING BLOOT BOT!?!?!?!??!?!
[03:47] <jimmy13632> see my network cord was not plugged in during install
[03:47] <ubotu> _tcc: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:47] <dabaR__> haha
[03:48] <sportmankid> so, um about my ati?
[03:48] <sportmankid> guess no help/
[03:48] <johndarkhorse> jimmy13632: click alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin  and see if your NIC is recognized
[03:48] <jimmy13632> does ubuntu automatically find my ethernet cablb
[03:48] <navarone> sportman, what did you do exactly to mess up config? And why was system working okay before?
[03:49] <dabaR__> jimmy13632: echo "iface inet eth0 dhcp\n auto eth0"|sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces
[03:49] <dabaR__> you should see two lines of output.
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> So, before that little episode, there was an interesting question; what language IS Ubuntu coded in?
[03:49] <jimmy13632> gksudo network-admin doen't wotk
[03:50] <dabaR__> tonyyarusso: and? it is mostly in C.
[03:50] <jimmy13632> gksudo network-admin doesn't wotk
[03:50] <navarone> tonyyarusso, tcc was not asking about ubuntu he was asking about the bot
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> navarone, Oh.  Oh well, I learned something today anyway.
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> dabaR_, Ah.
[03:50] <dabaR__> did you see 2 lines?
[03:50] <cartesian1984> why was he banned?
[03:51] <sorush20> what is the code for properly stopping and restarting the x server?
[03:51] <cafuego> cartesian1984: Use of language.
[03:51] <dabaR__> who?
[03:51] <navarone> sportmankid, you can put what you are saying in main channel...more people read the more people can help
[03:51] <sportmankid> ok
[03:51] <dabaR__> thought police, cartesian1984
[03:51] <sportmankid> i will
[03:51] <Some_Body> hm, recognise a few ip's on the ban list from my days on accessirc...
[03:52] <cartesian1984> dabaR_: well said
[03:52] <johnf> hi i need some help
[03:52] <Shadyman> Oh noes! It's the thought police!
[03:52] <dabaR__> im the guy with __!
[03:52] <johnf> how can i make it some when i connect to a net work i can look at foelr liek windows ones as well as linux?
[03:52] <Some_Body> that's always fun, almost bumping into people
[03:52] <Some_Body> :)
[03:52] <Shadyman> johnf: Samba
[03:52] <dabaR__> johnf: ya, first you need to not itc as root...first help..
[03:52] <jimmy13632> I don't understand how to setup network card, I tried gksudo network-admin and nothing came up
[03:53] <Some_Body> johnf:what?
[03:53] <Some_Body> xwindows?
[03:53] <johnf> sorry im typiung in darkness
[03:53] <Some_Body> I am confused as to what you said
[03:53] <sportmankid> My system was working and i installed the ati linux driver from ati's site, then my systems x stopped working,, then i fixed it using some command which i forgot
[03:53] <dabaR__> Some_Body: he wants to read folders for windows and linux
[03:53] <Some_Body> ooooh
[03:53] <Some_Body> ok
[03:53] <johnf> what is better xwindows or samba?
[03:53] <sportmankid> there still is no graphics accell though
[03:53] <dabaR__> on a network.
[03:53] <sportmankid> and its rea11y slow
[03:53] <sportmankid> i tried running tuxracer it was like i was trying to run it on a 300mhz
[03:54] <sportmankid> the graphix that is
[03:54] <sportmankid> everything on the computer is fast but the graphics
[03:54] <skon> Does anyone know how to maximize the size of a VNC viewer?
[03:54] <sportmankid> im using an ati-radeon mobility 9600
[03:54] <jimmy13632> does any one know how to setup internet connection in ubuntu
[03:54] <Some_Body> never worked with samba personally..
[03:54] <Kyral> vncviewer --fullscreen
[03:54] <johnf> i just want it so i can connect to my network at my mates house who has windows and mine which has linux at home
[03:54] <dabaR__> jimmy13632: did you see two lines of output?
[03:54] <sportmankid> any iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiideas?
[03:54] <skon> oh duh thanks kyral
[03:54] <Some_Body> but xwindows served all my purposes
[03:55] <navarone> sportmankid I remember you typing something about XFree server being missing...correct me if wrong but isn't Xfree been replaced by xorg?
[03:55] <Hericus> Does anyone code in perl?
[03:55] <jimmy13632> am i suppose to do that in terminal or am i supposed to use alt-f2
[03:55] <sportmankid> yea
[03:55] <sportmankid> i think so?
[03:55] <Some_Body> sport:how can you not know?
[03:55] <jimmy13632> am i suppose to do that in terminal or am i supposed to use alt-f2
[03:55] <sportmankid> yea, xorg
[03:55] <sportmankid> is what i have now
[03:56] <sportmankid> so what should i do to speed up my graphics
[03:56] <dabaR__> write to ati
[03:56] <sportmankid> im serious
[03:56] <sportmankid> i have spent hours reading documentation
[03:56] <sportmankid> and i got nowhere
[03:56] <sportmankid> and now i got a headache
[03:57] <timfrost> jimmy13632, either terminal or console
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> jimmy13632: click the button alt and the f2 button.  put 'gksudo network-admin' in the field
[03:57] <sportmankid> and i know i can get it faster
[03:57] <dabaR__> ya, now you know how the devs felt:))
[03:57] <cafuego> !fglrx
[03:57] <ubotu> I guess fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <cafuego> sportmankid: Go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:57] <sportmankid> ok thanks
[03:57] <sportmankid> ill try this again
[03:57] <navarone> sportmankid...copy and paste your xorg.conf into pastebin
[03:57] <navarone> !pastebin
[03:57] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:57] <cafuego> sportmankid: That (and nothing else) is what you should follow. ALL drivers are IN Ubuntu as packages, you do NOT need to downlaod external drivers.
[03:57] <phos-phoros> spo0nman, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:58] <meepy> I got a problem when I installed Firefox 1.5 from Automatix. I have added a icon on a toolbar to my Thunderbird so I quickly can check my email - But the icon dissappar when I start Firefox, and is not to be found inside the Customize Toolbars anyway? How do I get the icon back?
[03:58] <jimmy13632> i did that and it said "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[03:58] <phos-phoros> and then run fglrxconfig
[03:58] <sportmankid> ah
[03:58] <cafuego> sportmankid: Essentially what you need are xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-KERNELVERSION
[03:59] <sportmankid> cafuego, um does it matter if i already installed a different one
[03:59] <johndarkhorse> jimmy13632: got a pencil?
[03:59] <cafuego> sportmankid: phos-phoros seems to know
[03:59] <sportmankid> or if i follow that i can always backtrack?
[03:59] <cafuego> sportmankid: Which different one did you installed?
[03:59] <jimmy13632> i did that and it said "sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[03:59] <sportmankid> xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[03:59] <sportmankid> X.Org X server -- ATI driver
[03:59] <johndarkhorse> jimmy13632: i'm trying to instruct you on how to fix that. do you have something to write on?
[03:59] <sportmankid> thats what i installed
[03:59] <cafuego> sportmankid: Yeah, that's not the one you need. Fetch xorg-driver-fglrx.
[04:00] <phos-phoros> that's fine, jsut run sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:00] <navarone> cafuego error message he got was something about Xfree-86-DRI being missing on display
[04:00] <cafuego> sportmankid: (Just leave the other one)
[04:00] <sportmankid> ok
[04:00] <cafuego> navarone: That's what fglrxconfig is for.
[04:00] <sportmankid> ok
[04:00] <sportmankid> i ran that command
[04:00] <sportmankid> its going
[04:00] <navarone> cafuego...jsut trying to keep the info going...lol
[04:00] <sportmankid> brb
[04:00] <mevvis> hi
[04:01] <phos-phoros> he might also have to mount /dev/shm for games
[04:01] <cafuego> sportmankid: Whehn that's done, /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be set to use the "fglrx" driver.
[04:01] <cafuego> phos-phoros: that's done automagically.
[04:02] <phos-phoros> cafuego, it wasn't for me
[04:02] <sportmankid> wait cafuego how do i run that?
[04:02] <eric_> I'm trying to install RealPlayer and I get an error something about shared libraries, can someone please help me
[04:02] <sportmankid> just type sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:02] <cafuego> phos-phoros: A normal breezy install should have /dev/shm mounted.
[04:02] <sportmankid> or ..
[04:02] <cafuego> sportmankid: 'grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:02] <sportmankid> ahh grep
[04:03] <dabaR__> sportmankid: meet terminal, terminal, meet sportmankid.
[04:03] <sportmankid> i should learn what that command means
[04:03] <cafuego> 'man grep' :-)
[04:03] <phos-phoros> I wonder why /dev/shm wasn't pre-mounted for myself then
[04:03] <phos-phoros> or maybe even, this occured after the last kernel update
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> I must say, every time I use that command I have to think of the explanation of it in the linux.org tutorial that makes it a Star Trek reference; "grepping now Captain".
[04:04] <sportmankid> hmm
[04:04] <sportmankid> when i ran that grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:04] <sportmankid> nothing happened
[04:04] <eric_> When I try to install RealPlayer I get error msg something about "libstdc"
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> sportmankid, What about grep ati /etc/X11/xorg.con?
[04:05] <johnf> df
[04:05] <johnf> f
[04:05] <johnf> vg
[04:05] <PeteyPablo> besides gftp whats a good ftp client?
[04:05] <Kyral> ftp
[04:05] <johnf> hoe can i view folder on the network?
[04:05] <phos-phoros> sftp
[04:05] <PeteyPablo> they have gui?
[04:05] <dabaR__> ya
[04:05] <Kyral> no
[04:05] <Kyral> lol
[04:05] <PeteyPablo> i need gui
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> eric_, You'll need the package libstdc++5 or libstdc++6 then.
[04:05] <sportmankid> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[04:05] <sportmankid> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[04:05] <sportmankid> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[04:05] <sportmankid> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[04:05] <sportmankid>         Driver          "ati"
[04:06] <dabaR__> sftp is an awesome gui within gnome-terminal
[04:06] <twysted> please dont paste
[04:06] <PeteyPablo> ..lol
[04:06] <ColonelPanique> phos-phoros : sftp doesn't help much for pulling down files from an anonymous ftp server. ;-)
[04:06] <dabaR__> open screen even
[04:06] <twysted> ubotu: tell sportmankid about paste
[04:06] <eric_> I have libstdc++6
[04:06] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with flashplugin-nonfree, it installs but doesn't show up in firefox
[04:06] <Davey`> Is it safe to remove older kernels?
[04:06] <meepy> I got a problem when I installed Firefox 1.5 from Automatix. I have added a icon on a toolbar to my Thunderbird so I quickly can check my email - But the icon dissappar when I start Firefox, and is not to be found inside the Customize Toolbars anyway? How do I get the icon back?
[04:06] <Kyral> yes
[04:07] <Davey`> and/or 386 kernels (I'm using K7)
[04:07] <Kyral> but keep at least one backup
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> See sportmankid's, cafuego?
[04:07] <Kyral> just in case
[04:07] <ColonelPanique> Knowerrors : not in the list when you put about:plugins in the addressbaar?
[04:07] <Linfan> im having issues with amarok....when i try to play a song it says dev/dsp/ is in use by another program but im not running no other music playe
[04:07] <Linfan> and then it just closes
[04:08] <sportmankid> did you see what happend cafuego
[04:08] <maxwell> Can anyone tell me how to get GCC 3.4?
[04:08] <maxwell> Synaptic only gets me GCC 3.3
[04:08] <cafuego> sportmankid: yes, you pasted output that my grep command could not have generated.
[04:08] <Knowerrors> ColonelPanique: right
[04:08] <PeteyPablo> how do i change the local directory that gftp starts with (permantently) ?
[04:09] <ColonelPanique> Knowerrors : blast!
[04:09] <Linfan> so nobody can help me with my issue ha
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, It was to mine after yours generated no output, to confirm.
[04:09] <Knowerrors> ColonelPanique: I also checked in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[04:09] <timfrost> maxwell, what distribution?  GCC 3.4 is in the breezy repository
[04:09] <dabaR__> !+info gcc
[04:09] <maxwell> Breezy Badger.
[04:09] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4:4.0.1-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[04:09] <maxwell> I have GCC 3.3 base, and I can't get anything better.
[04:09] <Ron_o> linfan, maybe you could try Amorak site?
[04:09] <maxwell> At least I think it's Breezy.
[04:10] <Knowerrors> ColonelPanique: synaptic tells me its installed there, but its not, so I tried "remove completely" of flashplug, then reinstalled it, still no good
[04:10] <ColonelPanique> Knowerrors : dang.  you using the standard mozilla / firefox with ubuntu?
[04:10] <Knowerrors> yes
[04:10] <sorush20> !k8
[04:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, sorush20
[04:10] <maxwell> How can you tell if it's Hoary Hedgehog?
[04:10] <Linfan> Ron_o you know what thats a smart idea-i should do that thanks alot
[04:10] <sorush20> !AMD
[04:10] <ubotu> sorush20: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:10] <sorush20> !64bit
[04:10] <ubotu> sorush20: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:10] <maxwell> I recall seeing 5.10 somewhere, which should correspond.
[04:10] <dabaR__> maxwell: what does "/exec cat /etc/issue" as a message to this channel say?
[04:10] <sorush20> !AMD64
[04:10] <ubotu> Not a clue, sorush20
[04:10] <Camilo> well i installed breezy, but even during the installation it told me DHCP had failed, i installed without configuring the network, because nothing i tried worked. Now i'm trying to configure it, and i can't for the life of me figure out what's wrong, any help?
[04:11] <dabaR__> sorush20: can you query him in private?
[04:11] <timfrost> maxwell, /etc/issue has the distribution name.
[04:11] <Knowerrors> ColonelPanique: maybe I should remove it and then flush my synaptic package cache, so it downloads it again
[04:11] <sorush20> dabaR_ how do I do that?
[04:11] <dabaR__> sorush20: read the pm he will send you to start off, and then ask me if you have any more questions
[04:11] <ColonelPanique> Knowerrors : you could use that easybreezy thingamajiggy to install flash for you... http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/
[04:11] <phos-phoros>  /msg ubotu !spame
[04:12] <phos-phoros>  /msg ubotu !spam
[04:12] <PeteyPablo> ..
[04:12] <PeteyPablo> !botsnack
[04:12] <ubotu> thanks peteypablo :)
[04:12] <Shadyman> you mean \msg
[04:12] <Camilo> btw, this is on a laptop Compaq Presario 2100, and i'm trying to connect with my linksys wifi car
[04:12] <sorush20> Camilo: what card do you have and is it a wireless card?
[04:12] <phos-phoros>  /msg ubotu !fglrx
[04:12] <phos-phoros> oops
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Is Thunderbird capable of associating more than 2 e-mail addresses with an address book card/entry?
[04:12] <Camilo> yea, a wireless card, and hold on, i
[04:13] <Camilo> i'm trying to find out what card it is exactly without taking it out, ubuntu is not detecting the card when i take it out and put it back in
[04:13] <Knowerrors> ColonelPanique: that easybreezy and automatix can mess up your system, I do every thing manually, learn more that way
[04:14] <Linfan> anyway to have my wifi led light turned on? i have wifi but my laptops wifif turn off and on button is not working
[04:14] <sorush20> Camilo: you don't have to take it out.. this is linux everthing is done by typing in things..
[04:14] <sorush20> Camilo: type lspci
[04:14] <ColonelPanique> Knowerrors : errr..maybe it is now EasyUbuntu actually... I dunno, I am a VMS user myself. I use ubuntu for my x10 automation platform mainly.
[04:14] <sorush20> which list all the pci devices.. hence the name. and no there is  no ls agp
[04:15] <Camilo> lspci
[04:15] <Camilo> oops
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> Is there another channel that would be good for a Thunderbird question?
[04:15] <Camilo> wrong computer
[04:15] <sorush20> Camilo: oh damn your using a different computer .. wow that is extreem..
[04:15] <cafuego> Hmm, rhythmbox with daap is much sexier :-)
[04:15] <tuv> how can i configure an isa sound card (sb16)?
[04:15] <binarydigit> tonyyarusso: there is a mozilla irc network if i recall
[04:15] <cafuego> tuv: via pnpdump/isapnp
[04:15] <ColonelPanique> Knowerrors : ahhh, yes.  well linux is sure the twiddly fiddly tweaky os, so good luck with all that.  hope ya get it working.
[04:16] <sorush20> Camilo: did you manage ?
[04:16] <Camilo> yea
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> binarydigit, Know the address, or should I look around on their site?
[04:16] <cafuego> tuv: If you have a free pci slow, sblives are REALLY cheap.
[04:16] <cafuego> s/slow/slot/
[04:16] <Camilo> nothing in particular looks like a card
[04:16] <sorush20> Camilo: what do you get do you get any thing that is remotly familiar to a wirless card?
[04:16] <binarydigit> tonyyarusso: can't remember off hand, try the website
[04:16] <Camilo> er, Ethernet controller would be the closest, and that's not it
[04:16] <tuv> cafuego: i'm trying qemu, which emulates an sb16
[04:17] <sorush20> Camilo: okay don't worry..
[04:17] <cafuego> tuv: Joy *heh*
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> binarydigit, Okay.
[04:17] <sorush20> Camilo: do you have access to the internet on that computer?
[04:17] <cafuego> tuv: Probably 5 1 5 (irq, dma, dma16)
[04:17] <sorush20> Camilo: that was a dumb question
[04:17] <Camilo> nope, it's not connecting to the wireless ruoter
[04:17] <rhiona> hi, i'm trying to uninstall ubuntu from my comp, how do i remove the linux boot menu at startup?
[04:17] <sorush20> Camilo: sorry.. okay stick in the cd rom
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> Since when is mozilla a .com?
[04:17] <Camilo> install cd?
[04:18] <sorush20> Camilo:  the ubuntu one? are you i gnome the brown desktop ..
[04:18] <Camilo> yea, it's in
[04:18] <sorush20> Camilo: yes the install cd.. we are going to install a magical program called ndiswrapper and the name becomes self explanitory like anything in linux
[04:19] <sorush20> Camilo: start synaptic.
[04:19] <ColonelPanique> tonyyarusso : over a few weeks ago...global domination it seems.
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> ColonelPanique, Weird.
[04:19] <Camilo> all right
[04:19] <sorush20> Camilo: you did that.. then search for ndiswrapper..
[04:19] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: since the firefox exploded
[04:20] <Camilo> got ndiswrapper-utils
[04:20] <sorush20> Camilo: by the way btw, what version are you using breezy ?
[04:20] <sorush20> Camilo: excelt install
[04:20] <Camilo> breezy, yea
[04:20] <twysted> rhiona> install whatever os, aka windows or another linux and it will go away
[04:20] <sorush20> Camilo: that was step one
[04:20] <Some_Body> hooray, it wasn't my hard drive that was faulty, it was the disk :)
[04:21] <Camilo> ok, all installed now
[04:21] <sorush20> Camilo: step two is to find the semi useless cd rom that of the wireless card that you are have problems with
[04:21] <Some_Body> sorush:semi-useless?
[04:21] <Camilo> hm, that'll take some more work, hold on
[04:21] <sorush20> Camilo: do you have it yet
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> binarydigit, Found the channel.  Not very talkative though.
[04:21] <Camilo> yea
[04:22] <Some_Body> the card will usually only operate with a product-specific driver
[04:22] <sorush20> Camilo: all we want from the huge cd is just three files from it.. really its probebly less than a 1mb in size..
[04:22] <sorush20> Camilo:  you found the sexy cd or not?
[04:22] <punkrockguy318> Is there anywhere that i can find a repository including a package of ffmpeg that doesn't suck?  The ffmpeg included in Ubuntu does not support mp4 or aac
[04:22] <ColonelPanique> Some_Body :  i think it is semi-useless because its primary use is for microshaft winblows, and of course that is a useless "operating system". ;-)
[04:22] <Camilo> yea, got it, put it in, and that's good, i'd hate to have to take the whole cd
[04:22] <Some_Body> well, again, ndiswrapper solves the problem
[04:23] <Some_Body> ndiswrapper solves all the world's problems
[04:23] <Some_Body> or at least, those related to wireless netoworking with linux
[04:23] <intelikey> punkrockguy318 all non-free formats suck
[04:23] <ColonelPanique> Some_Body : ndiswrapper DOES NOT turn my netgear WiFi driver CDROM into a tasty British Ale! ;-)
[04:23] <sorush20> Camilo: now there is a semi linux loving directory there called drivers, then there is probebly another xp driver in there..
[04:23] <bipolar> is ubuntu going to patch the ati driver for dapper or are we going to have to wait for ati to do it?
[04:24] <punkrockguy318> intelikey, it's so true, and it sucks works when you have a device that will only use them
[04:24] <Camilo> hm, maybe there's another cd... there's no "drivers" in here
[04:24] <punkrockguy318> intelikey, do you know of any ubuntu repository included non-free codecs?
[04:24] <Some_Body> colonel:the latest release can
[04:24] <sorush20> Camilo: find the three files I told you about that is and .inf file, .sys and a .somthing else I can't remember..
[04:24] <johndarkhorse> !nonfree
[04:24] <ubotu> Not a clue, johndarkhorse
[04:24] <intelikey> !w32formats
[04:24] <ubotu> Wish i knew, intelikey
[04:24] <Camilo> oh, inf, sys and cat?
[04:24] <intelikey> !w32codecs
[04:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:24] <johndarkhorse> !codecs
[04:24] <PeteyPablo> !restricted formats
[04:24] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[04:24] <ubotu> I heard restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:24] <sorush20> Camilo: BTW what is the make of the card now that you  have the cd?
[04:25] <sethk> bipolar, I believe that it is a kernel issue and that ati will address it
[04:25] <ejofee> is it risky to install on my breezy the following packages from dapper ?: cpp-4.0 / g++-4.0 / gcc-4.0 / gcc-4.0-base / gij-4.0 / libcupsys2-gnutls10 / libgcc1 libgcj6 libgcrypt11 libgpg-error0 libidn11 libkrb53 liblo0 libopencdk8 libqt3-mt / libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.0-dev libtasn1-2 libxml2
[04:25] <Some_Body> colonel:watch for fatal errors, those might be bad
[04:26] <sethk> ejofee, hard to give a hard and fast answer
[04:26] <sethk> ejofee, the compiler versions should be ok
[04:26] <sethk> ejofee, the qt library, depends on the version and the version it replaces
[04:26] <ColonelPanique> Some_Body : i drink responsibly, old chap.  locked away safely in the datacenter for eBay! ;-)
[04:26] <bipolar> sethk: yes, my understanding is the same, but I didn't know if the patch was going to be applied on the ubuntu side or the ati side.
[04:27] <crimsun> ejofee: if you're going to install them from Dapper into a Breezy system, you may as well use Dapper, else you'll run into silent memory corruption.
[04:27] <sethk> bipolar, it will be applied on the ubuntu side, but it may be available sooner from ati (or so I've been told)
[04:27] <sorush20> Camilo: ndis is an acrynom for n etwork device Interface S.... and the wrapper is that it uses those there files to wrap an xp drive system to a linux drive system..
[04:27] <sethk> bipolar, not direct knowledge on my part, just hearsay
[04:27] <Some_Body> yay, 2 cd's with fatal errors
[04:27] <Camilo> hm, says the same thing Linksys Instant Wireless PC Card Model NO.  WPC11 ver. 3
[04:27] <halibut> Which one should I get?  XFX 6600 512MB DDR2 DUAL DVI TV Out PCI-E XT Edition        OR    Xfx Geforce 6600GT 128MB DDR PCI-E Dual DVI TVO
[04:27] <ejofee> sethk, crimsun: i am on kubuntu and i think, since it doesn't ask me to reinstall anything from kde, then everything should be ok. am i right?
[04:27] <crimsun> ejofee: no.
[04:27] <sorush20> Camilo: you can check it out using the lspci.
[04:27] <PeteyPablo> when dapper comes out am i going to have to start from scratch or will i be able to apt-get the upgrades??????????/
[04:27] <yaaar> anybody around here know anything about digital sound outputs?
[04:27] <Some_Body> this is just strange, I can't get a clean burn from nero
[04:27] <sethk> ejofee, theoretically, sure.  Still I'd probably check the versions and the kde web site, just to be cautios
[04:27] <johndarkhorse> PeteyPablo: the wonderful thing about debian linux is that you never have to reinstall to upgrade
[04:27] <sethk> cautious
[04:28] <bipolar> sethk: *nod
[04:28] <crimsun> ejofee: like I said before, you may as well run Dapper if you want those versions from Dapper, because the allocator change will result in silent memory corruption for apps that do install.
[04:28] <sorush20> Camilo: in the terminal go to the same directory as the drivers on the cd and the three files.
[04:28] <johndarkhorse> PeteyPablo: it's called 'seamless upgrade'
[04:28] <Camilo> yea still doesn't look  like its there
[04:28] <ejofee> crimsun: what do you mean by "you may as well use dapper"?
[04:28] <PeteyPablo> johndarkhorse: that is music to my ears thank you
[04:28] <punkrockguy318> intelikey, i wish that the information in restrictedformats helped, but I need to convert movie files to mp4 files.  This can be done with ffmpeg, but it needs to be compiled with the proper configure flags.  Ubuntu cripples most media support in ffmpeg, even though it is universe
[04:28] <crimsun> ejofee: I mean don't mix Dapper and Breezy -- particularly for C++ applications.
[04:28] <ColonelPanique> johndarkhorse : you have a resource for this? how it works and all the gory details, and suchforth?
[04:28] <sorush20> Camilo: do you know how the cdrom is mounted to your system so that you know how to cd your way up to that directroy?
[04:28] <yaaar> i've got an onboard audio chip with coax spdif out. i just heard my first sound come out of it, buy running 'aplay -D spdif sound.wav' ....but nothing else makes noise.
[04:29] <Camilo> yea, i'm there
[04:29] <Ferris_B> hiya all! I b0rked my apache2 that I installed from apt-get, it suddenly no longer wants to interpret php. So, I removed it and installed httpd-2.0.55 from source. I dont want it on there any more, though, how do I uninstall something installed from source?
[04:29] <ejofee> crimsun: i see. i thought you meant there was a metapackage which you recommended me to also install
[04:29] <TGoC> Please do not send people over to #debian when they are running Ubuntu, thank you.
[04:29] <twysted> ferris_b remove the directory its in IE /etc/apache2
[04:29] <johndarkhorse> ColonelPanique: resource for what?
[04:29] <crimsun> ejofee: no, it's extremely dangerous to attempt what you're doing.
[04:29] <ejofee> crimsun: i see. thank you.
[04:29] <sorush20> Camilo: I know how to use ndiswarpper .. so here is the code for it sudo ndiswrapper -i nameof.inf
[04:29] <ColonelPanique> johndarkhorse : "seamless upgrade" to Dapper?
[04:29] <intelikey> punkrockguy318 sorry i can't help you there, i don't use ubuntu.
[04:30] <sorush20> Camilo: get it
[04:30] <ejofee> seth: thank you, too.
[04:30] <Ferris_B> twysted, I tried that but there seems to be lingering files in other locations that are trying to run . My concern is nuking the wrong files
[04:30] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: you don't ?
[04:30] <yaaar> Ferris_B: typically the source comes with a make target 'deinstall' you can use for this
[04:30] <intelikey> PeteyPablo no.
[04:30] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: there are both legal and technical reasons why we don't enable all the configuration options for ffmpeg.
[04:30] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: you help people here alot for not using it your self, me included :-)
[04:30] <bshumate>  Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?
[04:30] <johndarkhorse> ColonelPanique: it's a trait common to debian based distros. apt-get will seamlessly upgrade to the next version of anything
[04:30] <Camilo> got it
[04:30] <Ferris_B> heh
[04:30] <Camilo> And it installed the inf file
[04:30] <intelikey> yes PeteyPablo, and thanks for the flowers.
[04:30] <Camilo> err, the whole thing
[04:30] <ColonelPanique> johndarkhorse : oh, excellent.  cannot wait! thanks for the tip, mate!
[04:31] <crimsun> Using Ubuntu is not a prerequisite for helping out. :)
[04:31] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: no problem, if you dont mind what do you use debian, slack?
[04:31] <johndarkhorse> punkrockguy318: compile mplayer from source yourself, you'll be glad you did
[04:31] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, it's in mutliverse though, why do we need to follow US laws?
[04:31] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: what's in multiverse?
[04:31] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, ffmpeg
[04:31] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: no it's not.
[04:32] <sorush20> Camilo: you installed the .inf files.
[04:32] <crimsun> it's very much in universe, which is precisely why we have both legal and technical issues.
[04:32] <Camilo> yea
[04:32] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, oh, your right.
[04:32] <ejofee> sethk: thank you (i misspelled your nick earlier)
[04:32] <punkrockguy318> johndarkhorse, i think i will
[04:32] <sorush20> Camilo: did you get a promt saying there was a radio state change to 0?
[04:32] <Camilo> nope
[04:32] <sethk> ejofee, np  :)
[04:32] <Some_Body> legal issues?
[04:32] <sorush20> Camilo: what is the name of the inf files?
[04:32] <punkrockguy318> Some_Body, US patent issues
[04:32] <Some_Body> oh
[04:32] <sorush20> Camilo: is it bcmwl5.inf
[04:33] <johndarkhorse> punkrockguy318: when you get the source, make sure you have all the -dev libs you want to compile support for into it
[04:33] <Some_Body> then move the server to a foreign country
[04:33] <johndarkhorse> punkrockguy318: and ./configure --help
[04:33] <Camilo> no, it is lswl2nds.inf
[04:33] <punkrockguy318> johndarkhorse, alright, thank you!!
[04:33] <sorush20> Camilo: in that case your are okay.
[04:33] <intelikey> PeteyPablo yes it is.
[04:33] <Camilo> hey there's another inf file, wait a minute
[04:33] <Some_Body> appoint a figurehead to run it, and maybe change the url of the ubuntu site
[04:33] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: cool
[04:33] <ejofee> whom are you refering to here?: "<TGoC> Please do not send people over to #debian when they are running Ubuntu, thank you."
[04:33] <sorush20> Camilo: now type sudo modporbe ndiswrapper
[04:34] <twysted> ejofree dont worry about it
[04:34] <crimsun> ejofee: ignore the trolls.
[04:34] <Some_Body> worked for that bootleg everquest server, iceyfire or whatever it was originally called
[04:34] <Camilo> modporbe?
[04:34] <Camilo> or modprobe
[04:34] <sorush20> Camilo: its a little complicated.modprobe
[04:35] <sorush20> Camilo: modprobe
[04:35] <sorush20> now type sudo gedit /etc/networking/interface
[04:36] <PeteyPablo> why does ventrilo not have a linux client -.-
[04:36] <Camilo> all right well modprobe doesn't give the most encouraging answer:  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not Permitted
[04:36] <jdcaserockies> Does anyone know how to make rhythmbox the default player for mp3's and wma's?
[04:36] <Davey`> PeteyPablo: because its typically used by gamers and the majority of games use Windows?
[04:36] <PeteyPablo> jdcaserockies: right click one of each file type > opens with and select rhythmbox
[04:36] <sorush20> Camilo: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[04:36] <ejofee> crimsun, sethk: could you please tell me which of the following dapper packages are most likely to create problems in breezy: cpp-4.0 / g++-4.0 / gcc-4.0 / gcc-4.0-base / gij-4.0 / libcupsys2-gnutls10 / libgcc1 libgcj6 libgcrypt11 libgpg-error0 libidn11 libkrb53 liblo0 libopencdk8 libqt3-mt / libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.0-dev libtasn1-2 libxml2
[04:36] <intelikey> Camilo did you forget to sudo it
[04:37] <bipolar> how about this... is anyone useing the xorg "radeon" driver in dapper?
[04:37] <PeteyPablo> Davey`: i guess so, but it seems dumb not to have a linux one
[04:37] <crimsun> ejofee: all of them.
[04:37] <bipolar> I've got a 9000 which should be supported.
[04:37] <sorush20> Camilo: did it work?
[04:37] <Davey`> jdcaserockies: Right Click > Properties > Open With (tab) > Check the application you want. For a single file of each type
[04:37] <jdcaserockies> peteypablo, that doesn't work
[04:37] <PeteyPablo> jdcaserockies: it does..?
[04:38] <Camilo> yea i sudo'd it, and did what you said sorush20 it came out to Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[04:38] <PeteyPablo> jdcaserockies: davey just told you the same thing
[04:38] <jdcaserockies> peteypablo, I'm telling you just did it multiple times and it does not make it the default player
[04:38] <jdcaserockies> that i just did it*
[04:38] <Hericus> Whats to be done after apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[04:38] <Hericus> :( I'm tired, forgive me..
[04:39] <crimsun> Hericus: ...what are you trying to do?
[04:39] <twysted> hericus at the login screen choose session and choose xbuntu or xfce :)
[04:39] <Hericus> Oh.
[04:39] <Hericus> Dor.
[04:39] <twysted> hehe
[04:39] <Hericus> That only made it worse.
[04:39] <sorush20> Camilo: now type sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:39] <jdcaserockies> peteypablo, it always uses XMMS, a friend of mine used the terminal somehow to make it that way, but XMMS doesn't work. How can I change it back
[04:40] <PeteyPablo> jdcaserockies: you want to install xmms?
[04:40] <twysted> imma go see if linux supports my laptops hardware so i can get rid of windows
[04:40] <sorush20> Camilo: past what you see in that file into the #flood channel
[04:40] <Camilo> short file
[04:40] <jdcaserockies> peteypablo, no, I want to use rhythmbox, and when i double click a music file it tries to open XMMS isntead of rhythmbox
[04:40] <PeteyPablo> jdcaserockies: well we both told you how, i'm not sure why it isn't working properly
[04:41] <Tortel> !test
[04:41] <ubotu> Passed.
[04:41] <Unity> how can i move a 2gb file with smb? this is urgent...and the limit is apparently 2gb
[04:41] <jdcaserockies> peteypablo, would it help if i showed you the commands he typed in?
[04:41] <PeteyPablo> jdcaserockies: i don't know
[04:41] <johndarkhorse> Unity: break it into smaller pieces
[04:41] <bshumate> Unity: compress the file first?
[04:41] <Unity> johndarkhorse: is that a joke?
[04:41] <Unity> johndarkhorse: or are ypou serious?
[04:41] <intelikey> jdcaserockies sudo apt-get remove --purge xmms   maybe ?
[04:42] <bshumate> Unity: man split   ....it is not a joke. ;-)
[04:42] <jdcaserockies> intelikey, I'll try that
[04:42] <ITSa341> there is a limit to file size with smb?
[04:42] <Unity> bshumate: how do i cat it with windows?
[04:42] <crimsun> smb is a protocol and doesn't care about sizes
[04:42] <Unity> ITSa341: i dunno if this is just smb but i got stuck at 2 gb
[04:42] <ejofee> crimsun: is there any way to make apt-get show me the list of packages on which no other package depends?
[04:43] <ejofee> crimsun: (or not necessarily apt-get)
[04:43] <teprrr> ejofee, deborphan
[04:43] <ColonelPanique> it is a Linux kernel limit which was supposed to be overcome by now...oh well...
[04:43] <Unity> crimsun: i used sudo mv, from a mounted ext3 to a mounted smbfs
[04:43] <intelikey> Unity M$ type == linux cat    more or less anyway
[04:43] <ejofee> teprrr: thank you
[04:43] <teprrr> ejofee, np
[04:43] <bshumate> Unity: you can use WinZip or similar to make a multi-part archive
[04:43] <Tortel> winrar
[04:43] <crimsun> ejofee: please don't make this more difficult than it is. If you want to mix Dapper-compiled C++ apps in your Breezy system, DON'T. I'm trying to save you headaches.
[04:43] <ITSa341> hmm  I hope i don't have trouble with that, I regularly move files up to 8GB
[04:43] <johndarkhorse> Unity: no it is not. you can use archive tools to make segmented files out of one
[04:44] <Toran> Hey guys, is there a program for linux that will allow me to transfer my music to my iPod video? I'd like to transfer my photos and album artwork as well.
[04:44] <ColonelPanique> ITSa341 : you will have trouble... 8GB > 2G
[04:44] <johndarkhorse> Toran: gtkpod
[04:44] <ejofee> crimsun: yes, i already decided not to. this latter question of mine is not related to my former intention.
[04:44] <Unity> moving with a sudo nautilus also returned the same error
[04:44] <Toran> To my knowledge that doesn't support artwork
[04:44] <ITSa341> dangit I really don't want to have to go back to windows but I keep running into things I do daily that won't be easy to do anymore
[04:45] <johndarkhorse> Unity: oooh. dont do that "sudo nautilus will mangle your user permissions"
[04:45] <crimsun> ejofee: there are several tools; teprrr named one
[04:45] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Unity about gksudo
[04:45] <jdcaserockies> Can someone help me with file type associations? I have alist of commands here that associate music with XMMS, but I want it back to rhythmbox. Help!
[04:45] <ColonelPanique> ITSa341 : you just need to learn how to compress and segment largge files...no big deal...haha no pun intended!
[04:46] <Unity> johndarkhorse: thx i never knew that!
[04:46] <ITSa341> Colonel,  doing that many times a day slows me down which costs me money. Defeats the whole purpose of switching
[04:47] <navarone> yu want to use to open files
[04:47] <ColonelPanique> ITSa341 : yeah, well the alternative is to fix the kernel, and remove the 2GB limitation.  I worked in a company that completely ditched 100 Linux servers because they could not swap >2GB files with Windows servers each day. :-(
[04:47] <navarone> jdcaserockies, right click music file (mp3) and click properties/Open with and chose prog to open files by default
[04:48] <ColonelPanique> course SMB as a protocol sucks anyway. :;-)
[04:48] <bipolar> ok. can anyone help me? this is what I've got:
[04:48] <bipolar> $ grep "rendering" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:48] <bipolar> (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled
[04:48] <bipolar> The xorg log shows direct rendering is working, right?
[04:48] <ITSa341> Colonel. That is NOT an option for me. I have a hard time even finding the kernel much less modifying it.
[04:48] <bipolar> but glxinfo says it's not.
[04:49] <hericus> after apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, I still can't boot into it.. :/
[04:49] <Unity> split copies the file?
[04:49] <ColonelPanique> ITSa341 : see ^ : use something other than SMB to transfer your whopper files...it will be more efficient to use NFS, SCP, or even FTP than SMB anyways...
[04:49] <crimsun> hericus: choose Xfce4 in gdm's session menu
[04:49] <Unity> argh i don't 3.7 gigs free...
[04:49] <ejofee> crimsun, teprrr: i think it would be cool if deborphan were integrated in synaptic. this way, synaptic could provide a list of the orphans. more (important) than this, it could tell which are the new packages which become orphan after i uninstall something, so i would know which orphans is safe to also uninstall. it would thus make synaptic a very efficient uninstaller.
[04:50] <crimsun> ejofee: its functionality is built into aptitude already.
[04:50] <hou5ton> I just trying playing a DVD movie on my laptop ... Totem came up ... said it was encrypted and I needed libdvdcss.  BUT, libdvdcss is listed in my Synaptic???
[04:50] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell hou5ton about libdvdcss2
[04:50] <monway> get it from videolan.org
[04:50] <monway> click on developers link
[04:50] <monway> grab libdvdcss from subversion
[04:51] <crimsun> johndarkhorse already provided the relevant info
[04:51] <ejofee> crimsun: also automatizing the "enhanced uninstallation" process that i was talking about?
[04:51] <monway> since it has a debian folder inside the source
[04:51] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell monway about libdvdcss2
[04:51] <monway> compile it
[04:51] <monway> oh the french thing ?
[04:51] <Camilo> happy learning, sorush20 , i hope so:)
[04:51] <johndarkhorse> monway: my way is easier
[04:51] <crimsun> ejofee: aptitude already handles it. Synaptic doesn't.
[04:51] <monway> heh ..
[04:51] <ejofee> crimsun: i see, thank you.
[04:51] <Stormx2> Maybe someone could give me a hand? Sound juicer says "invalid parametres" when I try to extract
[04:51] <ejofee> crimsun: does aptitude have any gui frontend?
[04:52] <crimsun> ejofee: just curses afaik
[04:52] <johndarkhorse> ejofee: not it does not. use synaptic
[04:52] <sportmankid>  hmm
[04:52] <sowdog> Anyone here know the gnome naming convention for icons?
[04:52] <Madpilot> Stormx2: extract what into which format?
[04:52] <Unity> what is the de-facto ftp server?
[04:53] <Stormx2> Madpilot: I've tried MP3 and FLAC
[04:53] <hericus> I added xfce4.. but it still doesn't load.
[04:53] <Unity> like apache is the de-facto httpd, what is the supreme ftpd
[04:53] <ColonelPanique> Unity : no such thing as the de facto ftpd
[04:53] <Linfan> can somebody please explain to me-how do i install custom mouse themes? what folder do i have to look in to find them?
[04:53] <crimsun> hericus: what are you selecting?
[04:53] <johndarkhorse> hericus: try 'xubuntu-desktop'
[04:53] <Madpilot> Stormx2: hmm... flac & ogg both work here, I've never bothered setting up mp3 ripping
[04:53] <Unity> ColonelPanique: would pure-ftpd be up there with the best?
[04:53] <monway> it should be congigured with your mouse preferences
[04:53] <Stormx2> Wait, it works now...
[04:54] <Stormx2> I checked "Strip special charactors"
[04:54] <monway> most themes you install comes with cursors
[04:54] <monway> some you have to manually install
[04:54] <hericus> gah, brb.
[04:54] <monway> but nevertheless you can change corsors from preferences
[04:54] <Linfan> monway to what folder do i install them>?
[04:54] <Linfan> i downloaded a cursor oack from gnome-look
[04:54] <monway> use the theme tool to install it
[04:54] <monway> drag and drop
[04:54] <Linfan> i dont know how to install it
[04:54] <coz> hello all
[04:54] <ejofee> what does "virtual packages" mean?
[04:54] <ejofee> metapackages?
[04:54] <Linfan> i tried it but for some reason it wont accept the drop
[04:55] <monway> then configure the theme with mouse preferences
[04:55] <monway> is it a metacity theme?
[04:55] <monway> or kde?
[04:55] <coz> you have to install gcursor
[04:55] <twysted> :( x hangs on the live cd on my laptop lol
[04:55] <monway> gcursor is for gnome i believe
[04:55] <coz> you have kde
[04:55] <hericus> Nope..
[04:55] <ColonelPanique> Unity : sure, PureFTPD, ProFTPD, Wu-FTP, all about the same performance, all about the same bucha security holes... httpd has intrinsically less security issues than ftpd, so that is why there is no defacto.  plus some ftpd like ProFTPD are not completely open.
[04:55] <monway> but the real question is .. for which windowmanager?
[04:56] <monway> i dont know much about kde because i generally use gnome
[04:56] <intelikey> ejofee virtual packages don't contain files just the config script  afaik
[04:56] <Unity> ColonelPanique: ok thx for the info
[04:56] <monway> so if its a gnome question i can help
[04:56] <monway> :)
[04:56] <coz> gnome is better and more logica;
[04:56] <hericus> xfce still doesn't load.
[04:56] <coz> logical
[04:56] <monway> yeah
[04:56] <monway> gconf
[04:56] <monway> gotta love that
[04:56] <crimsun> hericus: you didn't answer my question
[04:56] <Linfan> whats the proper command to install it? im new ito ubuntu is--this the way-sudo get-install gcursor
[04:56] <Linfan> ?
[04:56] <coz> kde too cute for me
[04:56] <hericus> crimsun, I must've missed it..
[04:57] <twysted> linfan sudo apt-get install gcursor
[04:57] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[04:57] <ubotu> intelikey: What?
[04:57] <jaebird> >:o
[04:57] <monway> you type sudo apt-get install gcursor
[04:57] <crimsun> hericus: I asked how you're selecting Xfce
[04:57] <Jeeves_moss> all:  any one here had any luck install Ubuntu on a Compaq Smart Array PCI?
[04:57] <monway> hehe
[04:57] <Linfan> cool thanks
[04:57] <coz> first type in apt-get install menu
[04:57] <monway> or use synaptic
[04:57] <ColonelPanique> Unity : actually it appears proftpd is gpl now... i dunno, i quit using ftp in favor of sftp a long time ago ;-)
[04:57] <coz> that will give you the debian menu
[04:57] <monway> and search for gcursor
[04:57] <coz> then restart kde
[04:57] <coz> then apt-get gcursor
[04:57] <Unity> `sudo /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start` doesn't start pure-ftpd for some reason
[04:57] <Unity> any one else have that problem?
[04:57] <hericus> crimsun, I'm given an option to add sessions.
[04:58] <ColonelPanique> Unity : look at the relevant logs to see why
[04:58] <monway> unity check top
[04:58] <coz> let me try unity
[04:58] <Linfan> it says i already have the latest gcursor?
[04:58] <Jeeves_moss> unity:  do you hae any knolage with install Ubuntu on a Proliant server?
[04:58] <monway> run top to see if you have running pureftpd first before saying its not running
[04:58] <Unity> it can log without starting?
[04:58] <monway> top -u user
[04:58] <ColonelPanique> Unity : sue... it can log an *error* ;-)
[04:58] <monway> example top -u monway
[04:58] <ColonelPanique> s/sue/sure
[04:58] <mumanddad> has anyone got audacious to work with ubuntu?
[04:58] <Unity> i didn't see it in `ps -A`
[04:58] <Linfan> i took off the debian menu do i really need it?
[04:59] <Jeeves_moss> unity:  are you trying to talk to me?  if so, please pre-fix your answer with my name so I can see it.
[04:59] <hou5ton> ok .... I "think" I did what I was supposed to do with that message sent regarding playing DVD's ... but still doesn't work
[04:59] <Unity> Jeeves_moss: what is a proliant server?
[04:59] <hou5ton> do I need to reboot or something
[04:59] <coz> Linfan did you install anything
[04:59] <hericus> crimsun?
[04:59] <monway> personally ubuntu should work like gentoo but with a debian bootstrapping and package management
[04:59] <crimsun> hericus: But what session are you selecting in GDM?
[04:59] <intelikey>  `ps -A x`
[04:59] <monway> debian compiling according to cc configs
[04:59] <monway> ubuntu would be so much more optimized
[04:59] <FliesLikeABrick> where do programs like gaim and evolution mail execute firefox from?
[04:59] <Jeeves_moss> unity:  a proliant server is a rackmount server made by Compaq.  I'm having issues with installing ubuntu on it.
[04:59] <crimsun> monway: go for it.
[05:00] <monway> i generally do
[05:00] <hericus> Well its set to default, I changed to to xubuntu-desktop and logged out. Logged back in, and get gnome.
[05:00] <monway> i recompile all my stuff
[05:00] <Unity> Jeeves_moss: so...why are you asking me in particular?
[05:00] <hou5ton> I just trying playing a DVD movie on my laptop ... Totem came up ... said it was encrypted and I needed libdvdcss.  BUT, libdvdcss is listed in my Synaptic???
[05:00] <ColonelPanique> Unity : yer not gonna find log messages with the ps command! ;-)
[05:00] <monway> i dont go with defautl
[05:00] <coz> /usr/share/bin
[05:00] <monway> i'm a debian whore
[05:00] <monway> hehe
[05:00] <Jeeves_moss> Unity:  you asked earlier if any one had any questions.
[05:00] <Linfan> i got it to work thanks alot-one other problem im having is with my mute button led on my laptop is not on-i was able to fix my wifi led but i dont know where to go to fix the mute button-anybody know?
[05:00] <coz> sorry /ust/bin
[05:00] <crimsun> hericus: do you have an ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc ?
[05:00] <coz> usr bin
[05:00] <mumanddad> What is the future of media players in Linux... I hard beep media player was no longer being deloped?
[05:00] <Unity> ColonelPanique: /var/log/pure-ftpd is empty
[05:01] <monway> currently i'm trying to package E17 for PPC folks
[05:01] <hericus> All I've done is apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.. :/
[05:01] <coz> xmms is good
[05:01] <PeteyPablo> anyone know how to change buddy icons to a new theme in gaim?
[05:01] <monway> been working on it viciously
[05:01] <Goldfisch> Isn't libdvdcss in the restricted?
[05:01] <coz> yes
[05:01] <mumanddad> is xxms gonna conitnue?
[05:01] <Unity> Jeeves_moss: oh i don't remember that but no, i don't know how rackmount servers work
[05:01] <Goldfisch> tell hou5ton about restricted
[05:01] <ColonelPanique> Jeeves_moss : what's the deal? i have ubuntu on two compaq proliant dl320s in my bathroom. ;-)
[05:01] <johndarkhorse> monway: really? a ppc (ab)user are you?
[05:01] <hericus> :\
[05:01] <monway> xfce is ok but i tell you E17 owns all donkey balls
[05:01] <Jeeves_moss> Unity:  any ideas on who I should ask?
[05:01] <hericus> :/
[05:01] <Goldfisch> !tell hou5ton about restricted
[05:01] <Unity> Jeeves_moss: the rest of the channel?
[05:01] <monway> i'm a ppc guy and an x86 guy
[05:02] <johndarkhorse> monway: please respect us with your language choices
[05:02] <monway> sure
[05:02] <monway> was just being blunt but sure i'll respec the lingo
[05:02] <Unity> Jeeves_moss: you can maybe ask #debian too b/c ubunutu is debian derived they have a lot of similarities
[05:02] <monway> :)_
[05:02] <coz> johndarkhorse is italian ok
[05:02] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  all I want to do is play a DVD movie
[05:02] <alvanson> Unity, they hate that
[05:02] <Jeeves_moss> Unity:  I'm in that channel right now.  no one is talking.
[05:03] <johndarkhorse> coz: in #ubuntu-it
[05:03] <Unity> alvanson: just don't them your actually on ubuntu?
[05:03] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: You need to install libdvdcss. It is in the restricted section.
[05:03] <coz> hou5tton did  you istallall the libs ertc
[05:03] <monway> i am working on a project for a new way to install themes on linux
[05:03] <alvanson> hmm... novell.com is down
[05:03] <monway> drag and drop themes and theme script files that are hosted individually
[05:03] <crimsun> hericus: what options can you choose in the Sessions selection of gdm?
[05:03] <coz> hou5ton you there
[05:03] <hou5ton> coz:  i did what johndarkhorse sent me ...
[05:03] <Delvien> Anyone have an idea where to get the firefox and Thunderbird  icons in http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/26448-1.jpg ??
[05:03] <hou5ton> but didn't work still
[05:04] <coz> which was what
[05:04] <hou5ton> unless I'm supposed to reboot it or something
[05:04] <monway> essentially the theme files are 2k files
[05:04] <monway> instead of megabytes
[05:04] <hericus> I see xfce4, xubuntu-desktop and default.
[05:04] <coz> did you apt-get install totem-xine
[05:04] <pipin> greetings. I've just installed breezy and have been rather unsuccessfully trying to install emacs. Message I get is: Reading package lists... Done
[05:04] <pipin> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:04] <pipin> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[05:04] <pipin> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:04] <pipin> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[05:04] <pipin> or been moved out of Incoming.
[05:04] <pipin> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[05:04] <pipin> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[05:04] <monway> if you all are curious about a good theme ..
[05:04] <pipin> that package should be filed.
[05:04] <pipin> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[05:04] <monway> there's a page at sourceforge
[05:04] <pipin> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:04] <hou5ton> coz: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:04] <pipin>   emacs21-nox: Depends: emacs21-bin-common (= 21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[05:04] <pipin> E: Broken packages
[05:04] <pipin> .
[05:05] <ColonelPanique> pipin : ixnay on the oodflay!
[05:05] <coz> hou5ton did yu apt-get install totem-xine
[05:05] <tuv> isn't ntp.ubuntulinux.org NTP server working?
[05:05] <Unity> ubotu tell pipin about pastebin
[05:05] <Goldfisch> pipin: Use pastebin!
[05:05] <pipin> What is pastebin?
[05:05] <hou5ton> coz:  just a sec ... let me check
[05:05] <timfrost> !pastebin
[05:05] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> tuv: Works for me.
[05:05] <pipin> Murky
[05:05] <coz> hou5ton just sudo apt-get totem-xine
[05:06] <Delvien> Anyone have an idea where to get the firefox and Thunderbird  icons in http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/26448-1.jpg ??
[05:06] <bipolar> *sigh* no dice. I cant get direct rendering to come on on Dapper install.
[05:06] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: Do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[05:06] <coz> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[05:06] <monway> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gno-sx
[05:06] <hou5ton> coz:   it's already installed
[05:06] <coz> ok nest
[05:06] <TokenBad> in ubuntu what should I use for ident for irc?
[05:06] <crimsun> hericus: what happens when you choose Xfce4?
[05:06] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  I clicked on it, and it asked me if I wanted to run it ( install it) and I said yes
[05:06] <coz> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs
[05:06] <sportmakid> is there any basic application for firewire capture
[05:07] <coz> and download the .deb file if you already have not
[05:07] <sportmakid> just to see if my firewire is working?
[05:07] <sportmakid> for ubuntu
[05:07] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: In synaptic? Did you click the apply button to actually install that package?
[05:07] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  yes
[05:07] <ColonelPanique> Happy new Year!
[05:07] <Unity> wu-ftpd is'nt starting either! and with no logs!
[05:07] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  just a sec and I'll double check again
[05:07] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: So, now synaptic shows that library is installed?
[05:07] <Unity> are the scripts in init.d busted?
[05:08] <coz> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[05:08] <tuv> what do i need to do to get ubuntu live to recognize an sb16 soundcard?
[05:08] <intelikey> ColonelPanique but this year is not over yet.
[05:08] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  it shows that libdvdread3 is installed
[05:08] <Goldfisch> hou5on: What about libdvdcss2?
[05:08] <ColonelPanique> intelikey : could you possibly be more ambigious?
[05:08] <ColonelPanique> intelikey : "this year" ?
[05:08] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  just a sec
[05:08] <coz> hou5ton you there
[05:09] <hou5ton> coz:  yes
[05:09] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  no such file in Synaptic
[05:09] <manny> Hello, I was looking into downloadig files like from Morpheus. Can I still do it with ubuntu?
[05:09] <coz> great did you install al the gstreamer0.8 plugins
[05:09] <timfrost> pipin, how did you install emacs?  From a .deb you downloaded?
[05:09] <hou5ton> coz: are those necessary for Totem
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> hou5ton: did you read the info ubotu sent you?
[05:09] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: You nead to add restricted to your repositories. libdvdcss2 is a library used for decrypting DVDs.
[05:09] <tuv> how can i scan the isa bus in ubuntu live?
[05:09] <coz> yes
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell hou5ton about libdvdcss
[05:09] <Goldfisch> ubotu tell hou5ton about restricted
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> tuv: in a terminal "sudo lshw"
[05:10] <coz> we will get to libdvdcss
[05:10] <manny> how?
[05:10] <Linksman> Just installed Ubuntu for the first time (long-time SuSE user) and am LOVING it. Don't know why I waited so long. Happy New Year everyone!
[05:10] <PeteyPablo> can anyone tell me where i would find share/pixmaps/gaim/status/default
[05:10] <PeteyPablo> ?
[05:10] <hou5ton> johndarkhorse:  yes ... and I think i did what it said ...
[05:10] <intelikey> tuv lshw  maybe
[05:10] <coz> hou5ton just apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[05:11] <lampshade> whats up
[05:11] <lampshade> #ubuntu
[05:11] <ColonelPanique> Linksman : yeah, and unlikely being pwned by Novell, you will always be able to use *all* Ubuntu releases for FREE! ;-)
[05:11] <coz> hou5ton let meknow if you do this
[05:11] <ChrisC_> Having some mouse trouble ... what's the keyboard shortcut to open the Gnome (aka "Start") menu?  I tried Alt-Esc ...
[05:11] <intelikey> although lshw seems week to me, in said area.
[05:11] <hou5ton> coz: ok ... let me check on that
[05:11] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: You haven't done it until you can find libdvdcss listed on synaptic. It is in the restricted repository. Have you added that repository in synaptic?
[05:11] <sportmakid> .
[05:11] <Johnny0> Evening All
[05:11] <coz> then check if you have msttcorefonts installed
[05:12] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  ok ... I have added some in that config file .... but don't recall if that is one of them
[05:12] <coz> hou5ton just type it in the terminal as an install it will let you know if you have them
[05:12] <stevenj> does anyone use audacity here?
[05:12] <pipin> attempted to install using apt-get.
[05:12] <ColonelPanique> !anyone
[05:12] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[05:12] <Unity> i think the wu-ftpd script is bad...it doesn't print out like Starting FTPD but in the script, it says it should
[05:12] <Goldfisch> coz: He doesn't see libdvdcss listed when he searched in synaptic.
[05:12] <Linksman> ColonelPanique: I hear ya. The free aspect has a philosophical pull on me. I simply feel better using Ubuntu. If you're gonna stick it to the man, don't just switch to another man.
[05:12] <ChrisC_> Having some mouse trouble ... what's the keyboard shortcut to open the Gnome (aka "Start") menu?  I tried Ctrl-Esc and Alt-Esc ...
[05:13] <intelikey> stevenj i have.   is this a poll  or do you have a Q
[05:13] <coz> thats ok we will get o libdvdcss in amomnet
[05:13] <timfrost> pipin, what command line?
[05:13] <stevenj> intelikey, question I am uploading pic for easy explanation
[05:13] <coz> hou5ton
[05:13] <pipin> timfrost, yes?
[05:14] <stevenj> whoa image shack slow tonight
[05:14] <hou5ton> ok ... I just went to sources.list .. and I dont' see a line for "restricted"
[05:14] <hou5ton> wait .. yest I do
[05:14] <coz> hou5ton you don't have to go to synaptic to check if it is installed
[05:14] <Unity> `start-stop-daemon --start --exec /usr/sbin/wu-ftpd` that should work?
[05:14] <mumanddad> anyone used xmms2?
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> How do you add an extension in the Mozilla browser if you have .xpi file?  Apparently it's different from FF's Tools > Extensions.
[05:14] <hou5ton> backports and security
[05:14] <timfrost> pipin, what hapopens if you run "sudo apt-get install -f"?
[05:14] <ColonelPanique> Unity : the initscript is probably fine
[05:15] <stevenj> intelikey, I know how make gtk1 fonts differentl; however, the interface is "messed" up in audacity - screenshot http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8dl.png
[05:15] <durt> tonyyarusso: enter the path to the file in the address bar
[05:15] <pipin> timfrost, I'll let you know back shortly
[05:15] <xptest> are you supposed to be able to play streaming audio(radio) in xmms?
[05:15] <ColonelPanique> Unity : your use of it without consulting any documentation whatosever, is probably not fine however.
[05:15] <coz> hou5ton do you have the gstreamer plugins
[05:15] <Linksman> tonyyarusso: just open it in Firefox. File-Open
[05:15] <Unity> ColonelPanique: i read it, it said if $1 is start then echo Starting wu-ftpd... it never echoed it...
[05:15] <coz> I do this all the time for residential clients
[05:15] <hou5ton> coz ... i'm in a terminal ... give me the exact line(s) to type in please.
[05:15] <stevenj> intelikey, do you know anyway to fix this?
[05:15] <TokenBad> in ubuntu what should I use for ident for irc?
[05:15] <mumanddad> xptest you you can but
[05:15] <Linfan> how do i install wireless assitsnat? sudo apt-get install wlassistant? is this correct
[05:15] <coz> ok here it goes
[05:16] <ColonelPanique> Unity : you read the content of the script?
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> durt & Linksman: Thanks.
[05:16] <EdLin> hou5ton, dvdcss isn't in restricted, restricted is for binary hardware support. I'd look in multiverse, but since it's illegal it isn't there either. Don't give up hope though, check to see if you have libdvdread3 installed. If so, go to its documentation directory in /usr/share/doc,
[05:16] <coz> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[05:16] <timfrost> pipin, and let me know what thew command you used was ('apt-get install ...' should install the dependencies as well )
[05:16] <intelikey> stevenj i believe that's listed in the bugs  bugzilla.com/ubuntu iirc
[05:16] <EdLin> hou5ton, and do this: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:16] <coz> hu5ton let me know when that is finished
[05:16] <Unity> ColonelPanique: not carefully, just whizzed over it. i thought all the srcipts must echo something
[05:16] <ColonelPanique> Unity : that is not really the same as reading the fancy manual ;-)
[05:16] <mumanddad> xmms works well with the stations on streamtuner
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> durt & Linksman: How would you then view installed ones?  (Trying to help someone else, and I only know FF's setup.)
[05:16] <mumanddad> shhoutcast etc
[05:17] <stevenj> intelikey, oh so yours looks like this?
[05:17] <Eleaf> 
[05:17] <ColonelPanique> Unity : one sec buddy...let's cheque this out
[05:17] <intelikey> stevenj no i do know a fix.
[05:17] <Linksman> tonyyarusso: quit firefox. Restart, then Tools-Extensions will show you what you've got.
[05:17] <hou5ton> coz:  says it's already there
[05:17] <PeteyPablo> is thier a better torrent client then azureus?
[05:17] <xptest> try this url  http:/live.eonstreams.com/ccri_ca_losangeles_kfi_am.asf   from xmms and tell me if it works for you
[05:17] <coz> great next
[05:17] <intelikey> stevenj mine does not but i don't use ubuntu.   they promised to have that fixed in dapper tho.
[05:17] <EdLin> hou5ton, did you read my advice?
[05:18] <coz> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:18] <pipin> timfrost, 'apt-get install emacs21-nox'
[05:18] <bustacap> PeteyPablo, have you tried bittornado
[05:18] <bustacap> it's simple
[05:18] <PeteyPablo> bustacap: no is it better?
[05:18] <hou5ton> EdLin:  I know that I have libdvdread3 installed
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> Linksman, They're using the Mozilla browser, not Firefox.
[05:18] <TokenBad> I guess I use ident2 for irc?
[05:18] <coz> the next one has no sudo
[05:18] <Knowerrors> Can anyone help with the flashplugin-nonfree?  Synaptic says its installed, but plugins files don't show up where they say theyre installed
[05:18] <EdLin> hou5ton, so run the program then.
[05:18] <EdLin> hou5ton,  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:18] <bustacap> Knowerrors, are you using Breezy or Hoary?
[05:19] <coz> gst-register-0.8
[05:19] <stevenj> intelikey, I see..only one unrelated bug in buzilla.  hmmm
[05:19] <hou5ton> EdLin:  Ok ... i've done that ... i'll try Totem now
[05:19] <coz> and now you can do the libdvdcss
[05:19] <Linksman> tonyyarusso: Not sure about how Mozilla handles extensions. Guess I'd advise switching to Firefox.
[05:19] <Linfan> i somebody guide me on how to install wireless assistant please
[05:19] <Madpilot> stevenj: check the launchpad bugtracker too
[05:19] <Linfan> i chcked synaptics and is not there
[05:19] <Knowerrors> bustacap: breezy
[05:19] <Linfan> i have wi-fi radar but it doesnt have a rescan option
[05:19] <coz> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:20] <intelikey> hmmm i'm sure i saw it there...... {goes to look)
[05:20] <Madpilot> stevenj: https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu
[05:20] <Linfan> and it cannot be configured
[05:20] <Goldfisch> EdLin: Ahh, I just read install-css. I guess I did it one time and never looked back. Assumed it was in one of these repositories. :)
[05:20] <coz> hou5ton let me know where you are
[05:20] <bipolar> any radeon dapper users here using the XOrg "Radeon" driver?
[05:20] <ColonelPanique> Unity: if you look at the wu-ftpd initscript carefully, you might arrive at the conclusion that it doesn't start in daemon mode if it is enabled vi inetd.
[05:20] <timfrost> pipn, do you have apt set up to not retrieve dependencies? because that command should have installed emacs21-bin-common emacs21-common emacs21-nox emacsen-common
[05:20] <media> hmm
[05:20] <media> how can i capture video from firewire
[05:20] <media> i need a simple tool
[05:20] <ColonelPanique> Unity : and guess where it is enabled when installed as an Ubuntu package? ;-)
[05:20] <stevenj> Madpilot, thanks
[05:20] <hou5ton> EdLin or coz: do I need to do an update or reboot now?:  I still get this message after doing all that:  that i am trying to view an encrypted DVD and probably need libdvdcxx
[05:20] <hou5ton> css
[05:21] <media> just to test some random crap out
[05:21] <Unity> ColonelPanique: i finally got it running by copy-pasting parts of the script
[05:21] <coz> hold on
[05:21] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: dpkg -l | grep libdvdcss
[05:21] <bustacap> Knowerrors, try 'sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree' and then 'sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla'
[05:21] <coz>  did you do the last entry
[05:21] <Goldfisch> hou5ton: Got it?
[05:21] <PeteyPablo> media: i think it's sudo apt-get install dvgrab
[05:21] <Unity> ColonelPanique: but then what is the correct way to start it on boot? it doesn't have a man page either it seems
[05:21] <bsims> Is there a way to get dvdrip to read the vobs that are mounted in a loopback?
[05:21] <ColonelPanique> Unity : not the correct approach, to say the least.
[05:21] <coz> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[05:21] <ColonelPanique> Unity: man inted
[05:21] <pipin> shouldn't have. Just installed from the cd and then modified sources.list. Haven't changed anything else (that I know of)
[05:21] <coz> hou5ton did you so that
[05:22] <hou5ton> Goldfisch:  I get command not found
[05:22] <hou5ton> coz:  yes i did that
[05:22] <hou5ton> and it installed
[05:22] <jaebird> media: or Kino
[05:22] <coz> ok now you have to turn on dms for dvd player
[05:22] <ITSa341> hou5ton   are you the same hou5ton that used to hang out in AOL's Mac or PC room?
[05:22] <coz> did you do that?
[05:22] <Unity> ColonelPanique: i don't have that man page. will i be safe use an online version?
[05:22] <hou5ton> ITSa341:  NOPE
[05:22] <coz> dma
[05:22] <EdLin> hou5ton, you almost certainly don't need to reboot. rebooting doesn't fix things in GNU/Linux unless its the kernel
[05:22] <ColonelPanique> Unity : wu-ftpd should accept an incoming rquest automatically as long as inted is running ... try it and see: ftp localhost
[05:22] <coz> ok do this in termina
[05:23] <Knowerrors> bustacap: tried that already, even with the purge option
[05:23] <odat> hi everyone
[05:23] <coz> sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[05:23] <coz> that is ad (one) 1
[05:23] <Linfan> whats he right command for me to download gnomedesktop:networkmanager?
[05:23] <coz> not an ell
[05:23] <Unity> ColonelPanique: also, inted isn't running...
[05:23] <CrL_> hi
[05:23] <ITSa341> Hmm I have one pc on this network (windows simple network) that will not show up from here but does from all the other pc's
[05:23] <Goldfisch> Linfan: sudo apt-get install network-manager <--- one way from command line
[05:23] <Unity> ColonelPanique: and i don't have any binary named inted
[05:23] <shriver> anyone have any experience with MythDVD under Ubuntu?
[05:23] <CrL_> I installed ubuntu first time. All is running fine, but I didn't get a root password. It only told me to create a normal account..
[05:23] <ColonelPanique> Unity : bleh.. nm.  aparently ubuntu puts it in /etc/inted.conf, but doesn't actually run an inetd by default. bugg-er-
[05:24] <Unity> ColonelPanique: we are talking about linux right? i am so confused
[05:24] <coz> hou5ton let me know
[05:24] <mumanddad> !root
[05:24] <ubotu> [root]  by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[05:24] <timfrost> pipn, I have no idea what went wrong.  What happened with 'apt-get install -f?'
[05:24] <hou5ton> coz:  I did this: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[05:24] <hou5ton>  .... and it says command not found
[05:24] <coz> now you have to make dma turn on at boot
[05:24] <coz> sudo gedit /etc/hdaprm.conf
[05:25] <ColonelPanique> Unity: did you save a copy of the original wu-ftpd initiscript before editing it?
[05:25] <ChrisC_> The answer to my question was "Alt-F1", in case anyone cared :)
[05:25] <coz> hu5ton tell me when the document opens
[05:25] <Unity> ColonelPanique: i don't any inted.conf...
[05:25] <Xenguy> crimsun: Hi - I filed that bug report you requested; see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/6354
[05:25] <pipin> nothing at all.
[05:25] <hou5ton> coz:  it's open
[05:25] <ColonelPanique> Unity : /etc/inetd.conf
[05:25] <Unity> ColonelPanique: and i didn't medify the script. i know better than that
[05:25] <coz> ok scroll down to the last line
[05:25] <ITSa341> ClR  is this your first time with Linux or Ubuntu?
[05:25] <coz> UNDER that line put
[05:25] <coz> /dev/hdc {
[05:26] <ITSa341> CrL **
[05:26] <Unity> ColonelPanique: oh ok you were just spelling it diffirintly i knew it looked fishy
[05:26] <coz> Under that put
[05:26] <shriver> I've installed MythDVD, and I want to set the default player to Xine. Every source I've found says that there should be a 'Media Settings' option under the MythTV settings, but I have none. Where can I go to set xine as my player?
[05:26] <coz> dma = on
[05:26] <coz> UNDER that puy
[05:26] <coz> }
[05:26] <ColonelPanique> Unity : edit the /etc/inted.conf with sudo...comment out the line beginning with "ftp"...save /etc/inetd.conf, and wu-ftpd will start in daemon mode via /etc/init.d/wu-ftpd ;-)
[05:26] <tbw> Howdy.
[05:26] <Goldfisch> shriver: You will probably get more headway on #mythtv-users
[05:26] <coz> then hit the X in the corner and save
[05:26] <crimsun> Xenguy: thanks. I don't have time right this moment to follow up.
[05:26] <Goldfisch> shriver: Or is it #myth-users?
[05:26] <intelikey> ChrisC_ ok i  alt+f1  and get the tty1 console rather than this (tty2 console)  how does that answer my question ?
[05:26] <hou5ton> coz:  got it
[05:27] <coz> OK great hou5ton
[05:27] <coz> now reboot and come back online here
[05:27] <Xenguy> crimsun: no worries, just wanted to let you know :-)
[05:27] <hou5ton> k
[05:27] <Unity> ColonelPanique: daemon mode meaning it doesn't appear in ps -A?
[05:27] <kobur> hello all
[05:27] <ChrisC_> In Ubuntu, my mouse is not surviving KVM switches -- works fine after system restart, but if I KVM away and back, the mouse jumps around, opens context menus, and is unusable.  Must reboot to recover. Any quick tips before I post a longer form of this question on ubuntuforums?
[05:27] <Unity> ColonelPanique: because all this time i thought daemons appear in the process list
[05:27] <desrt> does anyone know why totem segfaults every time i play a dvd?  vlc does it too.  it seems to be some problem with the lower-level dvd playing libraries
[05:27] <ColonelPanique> Unity : no...daemon mode meaning it starts and runs as a standalone server, and not via inetd/xinetd...
[05:28] <desrt> to wit:
[05:28] <desrt> libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 2 (VTS_02_0.IFO).
[05:28] <desrt> libdvdnav: ifoOpenVTSI failed
[05:28] <desrt> libdvdnav: *** pgci_ut handle is NULL ***
[05:28] <desrt> [crash] 
[05:28] <intelikey> ChrisC_ gpm maybe ?
[05:28] <timfrost> pipin, do you have universe in your sources.list?
[05:29] <johndarkhorse> desrt: please use a pastebin
[05:29] <Unity> ColonelPanique: ok i love you it is somewhat working
[05:29] <desrt> johndarkhorse; no thanks
[05:29] <kobur> Can anyone help me get my sound working in 5.10 AMD64 version?
[05:29] <pipin> Yes I do.
[05:29] <Unity> ColonelPanique: thx a lot
[05:29] <ColonelPanique> Unity : if you comment out the "ftp" line in /etc/inetd.conf by placing an octothorpe (#) in front of "ftp" and then save the file, and then issue: sudo /etc/init.d/wu-ftpd start, then wu-ftpd will be running...that's how mine is working fine after installing wu-ftpd packaged ;-)
[05:29] <ColonelPanique> Unity : daemons sure do appear in the process lis
[05:30] <Unity> ColonelPanique: so basically comment out all ftp daemons from that line and then they will run like all other processes?
[05:30] <ChrisC_> intelikey: thanks, investigating ...
[05:30] <Knowerrors> None of the files that flashplugin-nonfree is supposed to have installed are there
[05:30] <timfrost> pipin, did emacs21-nox install or not?
[05:31] <slim> anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.
[05:31] <ColonelPanique> Unity: just comment the ftp line in /etc/inetd.conf which contains "wu-ftpd -l"
[05:31] <sethk> slim, are you using the ndis thing?
[05:31] <ColonelPanique> Unity : then excute the initscript, and wu-ftpd will be running as a standalone ftp daemon...yeesh! ;-0
[05:31] <coz> hou5ton you here yet?
[05:31] <slim> nope madwifi
[05:31] <pipin> No. I get the following message: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:31] <pipin>   emacs21-nox: Depends: emacs21-bin-common (= 21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[05:32] <intelikey> ChrisC_ not sure it will fix it for you but it does have repeter function that "might"  help.
[05:32] <slim> (sorry not IRC smart, dont know how to talk directly to someone on this screen:))
[05:32] <bshumate> Obi Wan Kenobe called-  says he has "a bad feeling about this"
[05:32] <PeteyPablo> does bittornado have a tray icon so i can hit x and it keeps running?
[05:33] <grateful> where do i go to get video codecs?
[05:33] <ITSa341> slim  I'm new to irc also. there is a link to a site for posting
[05:33] <ColonelPanique> heh heh! i know, right?!
[05:33] <ITSa341> I got kicked for it LOL
[05:33] <coz> grateful did what are you trying to do
[05:33] <ColonelPanique> !tell ITSa341 about pastebin
[05:33] <timfrost> pipin, which distributiion (breezy, hoary. etc)?  Cos in breezy emacs21-bin-common ios in main.
[05:34] <ITSa341> Colonel   Tell slim, I know but was trying to help him so he didn't get the reception I did  :-)
[05:34] <timfrost> pipin, might pay for you to pastebin your sources.list
[05:34] <ColonelPanique> Unity : did you get it going yet mate?
[05:34] <ITSa341> <-- learns quick....sometimes
[05:34] <pipin> timfrost, I'm using breezy. gotta go. I'll come back later (martinis waiting)
[05:35] <intelikey> <--- learns some quicktime
[05:35] <ITSa341> lol
[05:35] <coz> you know if you guys would just low format your harddrive BEFORE you install any os you would elimate half the problems you are having here
[05:35] <ColonelPanique> <--- has a pet monkey!
[05:35] <intelikey> ^ spanks it
[05:35] <ITSa341> Colonel   he probably learns faster than me   :-)
[05:36] <PeteyPablo> does bittornado have a tray icon so i can hit x and it keeps running?
[05:36] <ITSa341> Hmm I have one pc on this network (windows simple network) that will not show up from here but does from all the other pc's
[05:36] <coz> petypablo make one
[05:37] <ColonelPanique> Goldfisch : actually the /me emote is older, so <--- would be the "alternate: and /me the standard. ;-)
[05:37] <slim> and I have posted about this problem in several forumss...no luck.
[05:37] <Unity> ColonelPanique: yes its working fine for now thx a lot
[05:37] <Eleaf> AHH
[05:37] <ColonelPanique> Goldfisch : and you had too many dashes in there too ;-P
[05:37] <ColonelPanique> Unity : hooo-ray!
[05:37] <Unity> ColonelPanique: i feel so fumb but hey, you learn something new everyday
[05:37] <kobur>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[05:37] <coz> slim what problem
[05:37] <ssstormy> hello, I'm in a real jam here... my system does not have an exacutable called gconf-schemas, that supposedly exits in gconf2 (which it dosn't seem to -installed gconf2 a few times already) so I cannot install a few apps, which is jamming up synaptic
[05:38] <Unity> ColonelPanique: i just wish i would learn how to type better
[05:38] <coz> hou5ton
[05:38] <coz> welcome back
[05:38] <hou5ton> coz and all the guys ... IT WORKS   :)
[05:38] <ColonelPanique> Unity : i wish i could learn to type at all after five pints~!
[05:38] <hou5ton> thanks a ton
[05:38] <PuRo> i jusg installed network manager for gnome my wireless was working before i installed it-how can i fix this problem?
[05:38] <slim> tell coz anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.
[05:38] <coz> great!!!
[05:38] <PuRo> how can i revert back
[05:38] <PuRo> if anything
[05:38] <eric_> I'm installing java using a terminal and on the final step it's says "requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[05:38] <Goldfisch> hou5ton Good job.
[05:38] <Kyral> sudo
[05:38] <johndarkhorse> eric_: use sudo
[05:38] <coz> now watch all the starwars you want dude
[05:39] <hou5ton> thanks for the help everyone
[05:39] <ITSa341> lol
[05:39] <hou5ton> it's appreciated
[05:39] <coz> eat spumoni it better
[05:39] <PuRo> how can i access network manager?
[05:39] <PeteyPablo> does bittornado have a tray icon so i can hit x and it keeps running?
[05:39] <eric_> just type sudo before I type the command?
[05:39] <coz> PeteyPablo
[05:39] <PuRo> i just did a sudo get for it and it installed
[05:39] <intelikey> hou5ton i'll expect you to pay my ton in pounds please
[05:39] <ITSa341> eric  yes
[05:39] <PeteyPablo> coz ?
[05:39] <Goldfisch> ubotu tell eric_ about sudo
[05:39] <coz> go to applications internet and drag the icon to where you want it
[05:40] <PeteyPablo> coz, no i mean like GAIM so it sits in the tray when im not using it?
[05:40] <Unity> ColonelPanique: i wish i were old onugh to drink!
[05:40] <coz> oh I don't think so but someone here might have a n answer for you
[05:40] <coz> if not they just won't answer you unforntunately
[05:40] <ITSa341> Unity   drinking isn't all it is said to be. Should have seen me this morning   LOL
[05:40] <ColonelPanique> Unity : stay in school! don't do drugs! you'll get there! ;-0
[05:41] <ssstormy> eric_, you say "sudo blahblah"
[05:41] <Unity> ColonelPanique: will do! good night
[05:41] <coz> yes practice ans soon you too will be suod experts
[05:41] <coz> sudo experts
[05:41] <eric_> ok thanks ssstormy
[05:41] <coz> damn fingers
[05:41] <intelikey> ColonelPanique yes but where will he be when he gets there is the question
[05:41] <Toma-> also, read "man sudo"
[05:42] <PuRo> somebody please help me with network manager
[05:42] <Madpilot> is there a difference between using "man -k" vs "apropos" to search the man files?
[05:42] <PuRo> mhy wireless internet is no loger working after i did the install
[05:42] <kobur> Anyone know how to get a SoundBlaster Live card to work on 64 bit version?
[05:42] <ColonelPanique> intelikey : depends on his country of origin really.
[05:42] <coz> PuRo I am not good at networking but what is the problem
[05:42] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Are you running network-manager?
[05:42] <patterson> hello all
[05:42] <PuRo> i installed network manager my wireless went down after doing so
[05:42] <Toma-> Madpilot: "info thecommand"
[05:42] <PuRo> i dont know how to open it or where it is for me to open it
[05:43] <ColonelPanique> intelikey : dor example, in the good ol u.s. of a. he may be dead on the iraqi, (or irani) battlefield before legally old enough to drink ;-)
[05:43] <PuRo> is no where on system or menus
[05:43] <Madpilot> Toma-: I'm asking because running either command w/ the same search terms seems to give identical results...
[05:43] <intelikey> i kinda hate to admit that it really is that simple ColonelPanique......
[05:43] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Go to System->Preferences->Sessions
[05:43] <PuRo> im pretty sure the reason why my wireless is no longer working is because i installed network manager-before i did the install it was working ffine
[05:43] <ColonelPanique> intelikey : here in the bahamas...we drink at 16! ;-)
[05:43] <Toma-> Madpilot: what command?
[05:43] <coz> 16 yikes
[05:44] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Then click on the Startup Programs tab.
[05:44] <slim> anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.
[05:44] <Madpilot> Toma-: "man -k foo" and "apropos foo"
[05:44] <coz> bad livers at 21
[05:44] <ColonelPanique> but the legal age is 18!
[05:44] <PuRo> i dont see anything
[05:44] <PuRo> there
[05:44] <Davey`> in the UK we drink at 16, legal age is 19 ;)
[05:44] <Davey`> hehe ColonelPanique :)
[05:44] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Finally, add an entry reading Order 50, Command "sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &"
[05:44] <coz> bad teeth by 17
[05:44] <ColonelPanique> coz: fine british ale is good for the liver...it's that rotgut rum ya gotta watch out for!
[05:44] <Toma-> Madpilot: no idea :|
[05:44] <Madpilot> Toma-: but I just checked info man, and using the -k switch in man does use the same options as apropos... interesting
[05:45] <coz> true but being italian I would say red wine is the best
[05:45] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Are you running GNOME?
[05:45] <ITSa341> according to the CDC the average age for starting to drink socially in Bay City MI is 11
[05:45] <Toma-> i see.
[05:45] <Toma-> bbl
[05:45] <Kyral> man has switches?
[05:45] <Kyral> manswitches!
[05:45] <PuRo> yes i am ubuntu
[05:45] <Kyral> yum!
[05:45] <ColonelPanique> Kyral : everything has switches!
[05:45] <Goldfisch> PuRo: You can't get to System -> Preferences -> Sessions?
[05:45] <ejofee> Kyral: yes, it does have switches
[05:45] <coz> even me!
[05:45] <Kyral> I want a Manwitch now!
[05:45] <intelikey>        apropos - search the whatis database for strings
[05:45] <PuRo> ok i did the command you told me to goldfisch
[05:45] <CrL`> is there any working "mp3-player/mediaplayer" for ubuntu?
[05:45] <ejofee> Kyral: and the syntax is "!apt-get", not "yum!"
[05:45] <coz> even I have switches
[05:46] <coz> yum would be cool
[05:46] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Meaning you created the entry in Startup Programs?
[05:46] <PuRo> how do i open network manager to se ethe available networks in my area
[05:46] <PuRo> yes i did
[05:46] <PuRo> as instructed
[05:46] <ejofee> coz: cool for what?
[05:46] <coz> yum install anything
[05:46] <Goldfisch> PuRo: That is so the next time you login, it runs automatically. Just run the same command from a terminal to run it in your current session.
[05:46] <ssstormy> anyone have any idea why I see
[05:46] <ssstormy> E: /cdrom//pool/main/g/gksu/gksu_1.3.0-1ubuntu10_i386.deb: there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up
[05:46] <ejofee> coz: urpmi is *much* better than yum
[05:47] <ColonelPanique> ejofee : hee hee...manflake!
[05:47] <ejofee> coz: (if we have to go offtopic)
[05:47] <coz> ssstormy I don't but someone here might if not go to ubuntuforums
[05:47] <yaaar> word
[05:47] <thierry> what's the syntax to chown a file for normal user?
[05:47] <coz> although they may not be there this late
[05:47] <Jared> i got a simple tech simple drive      it is 160 gig external drive  and ubuntu wont let me write to it......even when i'm in root.....any ides?
[05:47] <Jared> does anyone have anyideas
[05:47] <Madpilot> thierry: "sudo chown user:group nameoffile"
[05:47] <Goldfisch> thierry: chown <user>:<group> foo.bar <--- :<group> is optional
[05:48] <intelikey> thierry man chown
[05:48] <PuRo> ok i did the command on a terminal window
[05:48] <PuRo> it says stopped
[05:48] <coz> jared right click the drive and check permissions
[05:48] <PuRo> and nothing happens
[05:48] <La_PaRCa> I am in love with streamtuner
[05:48] <coz> streamtuner rules don't forget to install streamripper
[05:49] <Jared> coz  i already have and it says i can't write to it is there any way to change that?
[05:49] <Goldfisch> PuRo: You may have to activate your wireless card in the network manager tool. System -> Administration -> Networking
[05:49] <yaaar> anybody know much about digital audio output?
[05:49] <coz> first check the boxes for writing hold on
[05:49] <yaaar> i've gotten far enough that i can play 5.1 sound through the spdif when i'm playing dvd's in totem. but compressed movies from the hard drive and mp3s and whatnot are still silent...
[05:49] <PuRo> ok my wireless connection is active
[05:49] <yaaar> the alsa wiki seems to tackle digital output on a kind of per-application basis....which is really inconvenient. isn't there some way to push everything that would be going out analog in as pcm on the spdif?
[05:49] <ITSa341> Does Ubuntu support hotswapping pcmcia cards?
[05:49] <Jared> ....it says i can't do that coz            it says it is a read only drive
[05:49] <PuRo> how do i make a shortcut to network manager?
[05:49] <nomasteryoda|w> ITSa341, yea
[05:49] <PuRo> is that the command you gave me
[05:50] <yaaar> ITSa341: yes
[05:50] <coz> damn I had this problem before and forgot how to fix it
[05:50] <ColonelPanique> Jared: run : mount   - does the drive's entry show "rw"  is  the drive formatted as *gasp* ntfs?! (coz ya kint be writing to ntfs from ubuntu...it is dangerous!)
[05:50] <ITSa341> nomaster yaaar   ty
[05:50] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Do you see an icon on the top that looks like a pair of PCs?
[05:50] <coz> hey guys Jared has aproblem you guys hlped with beofore
[05:50] <coz> help him out
[05:50] <PuRo> i want to know how access the gui for network manager
[05:50] <PuRo> yeah
[05:50] <ITSa341> bbiaf.....I Hope
[05:50] <johndarkhorse> PuRo: alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin
[05:50] <Jared> how do i reformat it to ext???????
[05:50] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Click on the status icon up on the bar that was created when nm-applet launched. That IS the GUI.
[05:51] <Jared> i know it is ntfs...it is WINDOW       *gasp*      ready
[05:51] <ssstormy> Jared, if the stuff on the drive is useless
[05:51] <ssstormy> and you don't mind loosing it
[05:51] <Goldfisch> PuRo: The twin-PC icon...click on it, and you will see a Configure button.
[05:51] <Jared> i have NOTHING on it ssstormy
[05:51] <ssstormy> Jared, ok
[05:51] <PuRo> Goldfisch, i am on that screne as we speak
[05:51] <ColonelPanique> Jared : System > Admin > Disks
[05:51] <Jared> and i don't mind losing nothing....
[05:52] <kobur> hello
[05:52] <ssstormy> do a fdisk /dev/hd<probably "a">
[05:52] <ssstormy> or whatever your disk is
[05:52] <ssstormy> /dev/hda1 maybe if windows was installed first
[05:52] <ssstormy> fdisk the partition that is windows
[05:52] <Jared> i have no windows....it says its ntfs     ........so let me do this real quick
[05:52] <ssstormy> danit
[05:52] <ColonelPanique> ssstormy : giving the chap a "maybe" with fidsk...is that such a good idea? ;-)
[05:52] <Goldfisch> PuRo: The status icon should be good enough for a shortcut to Networking.
[05:53] <Infohawk> Is it possible to make a persistent home with a usb drive and the the live cd?
[05:53] <ssstormy> ColonelPanique, *sigh* it would help if I knew which partition was the ntfs one
[05:53] <ssstormy> Jared, ok what drive is the windows partition on?
[05:53] <ssstormy> the master? te slave?
[05:53] <Jared> huh?
[05:53] <ssstormy> how many hard disks do you have on there
[05:53] <Jared> all i know it is ............on the external harddrive..........
[05:54] <Jared> ?\
[05:54] <Jared> it is a usb drive
[05:54] <ssstormy> oh
[05:54] <ColonelPanique> ssstormy : *groan* yes, but spouting off random devices for him to apply potentially destructve commands to is not sound advice mah man.
[05:54] <Jared> thingy
[05:54] <intelikey> jared not to comendeer someone elses help line but  ' sudo cfdisk /dev/hda '
[05:54] <ssstormy> ColonelPanique, it's not destructive to do "fdisk blabblah"
[05:54] <Jared> IT IS AN EXTERNAL USB DRIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[05:54] <ssstormy> Jared, do you know what device it is?
[05:54] <intelikey> ok usb     sudo cfdisk /dev/sda
[05:54] <PuRo> what i wish to access is the gui for network manager where it lists the available networks
[05:54] <PuRo> how do i activate it?
[05:54] <PuRo> i was told thats the easiest and reliable wireless tool for ubuntu
[05:54] <TranceRiver> I'm buying a PCI card to run with mi WRT54G version 2.2 What's a good card compatibility with ubuntu?
[05:54] <ssstormy> intelikey, ubuntu has cfdisk?
[05:55] <Jared>    /media/usbdisk
[05:55] <Jared> that is the drive
[05:55] <ssstormy> Jared, that's where it's mounted
[05:55] <TranceRiver> a wireless adapter, that is.
[05:55] <intelikey> no it's not jared
[05:55] <ssstormy> not the actual device
[05:55] <intelikey> that is the mount point
[05:55] <johndarkhorse> pussfeller: you've been told TWO different ways
[05:55] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Isn't there a status icon with two little dots on it, and a swirling status icon? Or do you have some "cell phone bars" icon being displayed?
[05:55] <ColonelPanique> Jared: go easy on yerself, and hit System Menu > Adminsitration > Disks ... you can format the external drive from within there.
[05:55] <kobur> #quit
[05:56] <Jared> .....how would i find  the device or what ever........it wont let me format if from there
[05:56] <Jared>     /deb/sda1
[05:56] <ssstormy> ok
[05:56] <ssstormy> you're good then
[05:56] <eugene_> Would anyone have any idea why it won't let me enter my password for sudo?
[05:56] <ssstormy> cfdisk /dev/sda
[05:56] <Jared> YAY I FOUND IT.........
[05:56] <Jared> so i do what command?
[05:56] <ssstormy> eugene_, you need to do visudo as root, and add your user into the file
[05:57] <ssstormy> Jared, cfdisk /dev/sda
[05:57] <intelikey> umount before
[05:57] <Jared> kk
[05:57] <Goldfisch> eugene_: Actually, check if there is already some group in there, like %admin. If so, then actually, just add your user id to that group.
[05:57] <ssstormy> Goldfisch, dosn't that file come bare, with just root in it?
[05:57] <TranceRiver> So does anyone know about PCI adapters with compatability with ubuntu?
[05:58] <intelikey> ya really don't want to try dirrect writing to disk/parition that is mounted.....
[05:58] <Jared> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19456.
[05:58] <Jared> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[05:58] <Jared> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[05:58] <Jared> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[05:58] <Jared> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[05:58] <ssstormy> intelikey, you can't, as best I know.  You get an error, and the app closes
[05:58] <Jared>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[05:58] <Jared> sorry sorry sorry
[05:58] <Goldfisch> ssstormy: Umm....memory's a little hazy. Well, I like the group mechanism better, anyway. :)
[05:58] <intelikey> sometimes it works ok but when it don't....
[05:58] <Jared> didn't mean to do that
[05:58] <Jared> ugh
[05:58] <Jared> what does that mean ssstormy
[05:58] <ssstormy> Jared, that's just info.  don't worry about it
[05:58] <CrL`> How to refresh the "Locate" command? it doesn't bring any results :p
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> Jared: it means nothing with linux
[05:59] <sampan> crl`  use: sudo updatedb
[05:59] <Goldfisch> Crl: sudo updatedb <--- and wait a little bit
[05:59] <CrL`> thx
[05:59] <Jared> then it shows command (m for help)
[05:59] <PuRo> got dammit
[05:59] <Goldfisch> PuRo: How is it coming? Do you have that icon on your status bar for network manager?
[05:59] <PuRo> no i dont
[05:59] <PuRo> i have the normal
[05:59] <intelikey> used fdisk did ya....   and me telling you cfdisk    oh well
[05:59] <PuRo> networking
[05:59] <CrL`> Just trying ubuntu with vmware workstation and it's very nice :)
[06:00] <Jared> ...what command do i use for it...........it shows:::::: command (m for help)
[06:00] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Did you run sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet & from a terminal?
[06:00] <intelikey> press m
[06:00] <ssstormy> Jared, in fdisk just type m
[06:00] <CrL`> Which irc-clients do you use? irssi?
[06:00] <ssstormy> and hit enter
[06:00] <ssstormy> print out the partitions
[06:00] <ssstormy> then delete the ntfs one
[06:00] <ssstormy> make a new partition
[06:00] <Jared> huh?
[06:00] <PuRo> yes i did and this is what it says
[06:01] <ColonelPanique> muaaahahaha
[06:01] <PuRo> Password:
[06:01] <PuRo> [1]  7680
[06:01] <PuRo> [1] +  Stopped                 sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet
[06:01] <ssstormy> Jared, type "m", hit enter and find the commands for what I'm telling you
[06:01] <ssstormy> for example
[06:01] <ssstormy> print partitions is "p"
[06:01] <ssstormy> which you can see if you do "m"
[06:01] <Jared> i get it...sorry
[06:01] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Oops...in that terminal, type "fg".
[06:01] <PuRo> i dfg at the end of &?
[06:01] <PuRo> fg*
[06:01] <ssstormy> after you make a new partition (which you should use default values for- just hit "eneter" at every prompt it gives you
[06:01] <Goldfisch> PuRo: It frozed waiting for your sudo password.
[06:02] <ssstormy> change it's type to linux
[06:02] <ssstormy> if it's not already that
[06:02] <ssstormy> write changes to disk and exit
[06:02] <PuRo> so where do i writte fg?
[06:02] <Goldfisch> PuRo: The command was backgrounded. You need to foreground it, and answer the sudo password prompt. My bad.
[06:02] <ColonelPanique> Goldfisch : au contraire. it suspended waiting for his password.
[06:02] <ssstormy> then do a mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda<partition#>
[06:02] <intelikey> hope he umounted it first
[06:02] <CrL`> is there something like "apt-get" for ubuntu?
[06:02] <Goldfisch> ColonelPanique: That is exactly what I said!
[06:02] <CrL`> ah I see omfg
[06:03] <ColonelPanique> Goldfisch : you said "froze" and that implies a temperature change! ;-)
[06:03] <freelove> how do i change the look of VLC media player?
[06:03] <Jared> how will i know which one is the ntfs one?
[06:03] <PuRo>  sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &....where do i type in fg?
[06:03] <tbw> w00t
[06:04] <tbw> Suspend to ram finally works!
[06:04] <CrL`> Well, one last question. Anyone of you ever used vmware workstation, host windows xp, guest ubuntu? I couldn't find my shared folders to drop files between the computers
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> What keyboard layout should I use for an IBM ThinkPad T43?  (Actually has 87 keys not counting Access IBM, vol up/down/mute, and power)
[06:04] <Goldfisch> PuRo: That was for your current terminal window. If you already killed that session, then run the command without the "&"
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> tbw: What did you have to do?
[06:04] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : change scripts
[06:04] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : apparently the lid button and the power button send the same acpi event or something
[06:04] <freelove> how do i change the look of VLC media player?
[06:04] <Goldfisch> PuRo: When you typed the command in that terminal, it was backgrounded and "suspended." To foreground it and unsuspend that terminal, the command is "fg".
[06:04] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : cuz the same thing happens when either is pressed
[06:04] <freelove> how do i skin VLC media player?
[06:04] <intelikey> jared    fdisk -l  /dev/<blah>    in another terminal/console
[06:04] <eugene_> I went into users and groups and added myself to root group but that hasn't seemed to help. It woun't let me try and type anything for the usdo password prompt in the terminal. It only recognizes the eneter button.
[06:05] <PuRo> it says
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> tbw: Do you know how to make my Fn-F12 shortcut reference a particular script?  It doesn't work to hibernate, but running a script in a terminal does.
[06:05] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : the power script looks for a file /var/lock/acipsleep
[06:05] <PuRo> sudo: /usr/bin/mn-applet: command not found
[06:05] <ColonelPanique> eugene_ : add yerself to the *admin* group
[06:05] <Goldfisch> PuRo: You fat-fingered.
[06:05] <Knowerrors> Is there a linux program to check a file for corruption, and fix it if possible?
[06:05] <Goldfisch> PuRo: sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet
[06:05] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : what's backwards about this is: when you close the lid.... it actually runs the lid script... but when you open the lid it runs the power button script
[06:05] <eugene_> I didn't see one. is adm the same thing?
[06:05] <tbw> makes no sense to me
[06:06] <freelove> Knowerrors: fsck for filesystemcheck
[06:06] <Jared> what would happen if i went ahead and deleated all of the partitions on it
[06:06] <Jared> ?
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> tbw: That's messed up.
[06:06] <PuRo> ok now i see an icon that looks like a mouse
[06:06] <yaaar> anybody know why my one of my two ubuntu boxes would fail to load an nfs volume on boot when the other one does fine? their fstab lines are identical...
[06:06] <ColonelPanique> ;-) !
[06:06] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : yeah so i have the lid script touch the /var/lock/acpisleep file
[06:06] <LordMelkor> how do i disable the audio previews
[06:06] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : and i have the powerbtn script check for it, remove it and exit if it exists
[06:06] <LordMelkor> that are played when i click an audio file
[06:06] <eugene_> nvm found it. sorry.
[06:07] <Goldfisch> PuRo: Sorry about that. The Sessions setting should work fine, though. That's what I have.
[06:07] <tbw> and it works fine, i can close my lid and it sleeps
[06:07] <tbw> and open it up and it works great
[06:07] <LordMelkor> ...anyone?
[06:07] <ColonelPanique> eugene_ : don't be sorry. unless you steal my cadillac!
[06:07] <lampshade> Anyone use VNC here?  I got a question.  My screen is coming up with really really low resolution when viewwed via VNC.  it is really just too small to work on the desktop effectively, I can't even see whole windows sometimes.  Any ideas?
[06:07] <Goldfisch> PuRo: You can click the icon, and see your options.
[06:07] <eugene_> um double sorry?
[06:07] <intelikey> tbw  just swap the two scripts....    mv scriptA hold ;mv scriptB scriptA ;mv hold scriptB
[06:07] <tbw> actually now that i'm thinking about it..
[06:07] <tbw> intelikey, : what?
[06:07] <eugene_> muhahah you'll never get your car back now!
[06:08] <intelikey> noffin
[06:08] <tbw> Actually.. now that I think about it... the lid script is being called when it opens
[06:08] <LordMelkor> how do i dsable audio previews?
[06:08] <Goldfisch> lampshade: Check the geometry settings of your vncserver. That is an argument, to control how much screeen space it serves up. Can't speak much about vino, thought, since I don't know it well.
[06:08] <tbw> no maybe not
[06:08] <tbw> the lid closed starts the x-screensaver
[06:08] <tbw> nevermind
[06:08] <tbw> ;)
[06:08] <lampshade> Goldfisch:  k, thanks for the heads up I'll check it out
[06:09] <intelikey> x-screensaver yuch! shivers......
[06:09] <eugene_> arghh I'm already an admin.
[06:09] <tbw> Anyone know how i set up wpa instead of wep?
[06:09] <slim> anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.
[06:09] <tbw> intelikey, : well it locks the screen
[06:10] <Goldfisch> What is the gnome screensaver? Since I changed my debian station to gnome-desktop, I don't seem to have any screensavers running.
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> So if one needed to do a reinstall with minimal data loss, what would be the best way to do it?
[06:10] <Goldfisch> PuRo: How is it going?
[06:11] <LordMelkor> how do you disable audio previews?
[06:11] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: if you move your /home to a seperate partition, you'll be lots better off
[06:11] <intelikey>  reinstall with minimal data loss <--- of what ?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, I've done that.
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, What about installed programs?
[06:11] <Knowerrors> freelove: looks like thats for the whole drive, I just want to check one file, is that possible?
[06:12] <intelikey> tonyyarusso no sir.
[06:12] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: this may interest you http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html
[06:12] <intelikey> you reinstall them also.
[06:12] <Kieser> Hey all, new question:  Anybody ever net installed on an Sun Ultra10?
[06:12] <freelove> Knowerrors: dunno sorry
[06:12] <johndarkhorse> intelikey: read the link i posted for tonyyarusso please
[06:12] <eugene_> Yay. Thank you ColonelPanique for being an idirect help. Apprently being part of the SUDO group is what I needed.
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, So I should just dpkg -l > list.txt ahead of time.
[06:13] <Goldfisch> tonyyarusso: Trying to get a handle on what packages you have installed? dpkg --get-selections
[06:13] <ColonelPanique> Keiser : there's an Ubuntu SPARC?!
[06:13] <ColonelPanique> i must have slept through its release! ;-)
[06:13] <Goldfisch> tonyyarusso: That is different output than dpkg -l
[06:13] <intelikey> yeah. make a list and use it on the reaload
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Goldfisch, Good to know.
[06:14] <Goldfisch> tonyyarusso: And of course, the reciprocal command is dpkg --set-selections!
[06:14] <coz> dpkg -i not ell
[06:14] <coz> but what do I know
[06:14] <LordMelkor> does anyone know how to disable audio previews?
[06:14] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: read the link i sent ya
[06:14] <tbw> Well there's a debian sparc
[06:14] <tbw> sorta makes sense
[06:14] <coz> LordMelkor I am not sure what you mean
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, Just did.  Sounds pretty slick.
[06:14] <ColonelPanique> holy crap!
[06:15] <Goldfisch> Goodnight everyone. Time to go back to work tomorrow after a wonderful Xmas holiday. Yawn!!
[06:15] <ssstormy> anyone around know how to find the package with gconf-schemas?
[06:15] <Keiser> So, anybody had any experience with the Sparc version?
[06:15] <LordMelkor> coz: when i single click on an audio file a short 5 second preview plays
[06:16] <coz> I see well as the doctor saud :don't single click" sorry had to say that
[06:16] <coz> Actually LordMelkor I have't had reason to stop it but if you hold on I will try
[06:16] <PeteyPablo> whats the command to copy a file on linux from one folder to another?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Okay then, so for a backup situation, can people help me brainstorm the main config files I've probably had to futz with?  (I've been breaking things as I learn Linux; hoping I can make a Dapper install in the spring and do things right this time.)
[06:16] <LordMelkor> since my sound card is very primitive it can only handle one sound stream
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> PeteyPablo, cp.
[06:16] <coz> ok hold on
[06:16] <LordMelkor> im arranging mp3s right now
[06:17] <intelikey> PeteyPablo man cp
[06:17] <PeteyPablo> tonyyarusso: can you give me an ex?
[06:17] <sethk> PeteyPablo, sure, take my ex, please
[06:17] <coz> LordMelkor soudn or viseo
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> Nice, sethk.
[06:17] <coz> sound or video
[06:17] <sethk> tonyyarusso, couldn't resist.  :)
[06:18] <Jared> HEH
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> PeteyPablo, cp ~/thatfile.txt /home/myfriendbob/cool_stuff_from_Petey/
[06:18] <coz> LordMelkor sound or video
[06:18] <Jared> it didn't work ssstormy
[06:18] <ssstormy> Jared, what didn't work?
[06:18] <Jared> it still says it is a ntfs filesystem
[06:18] <LordMelkor> coz: sound
[06:18] <coz> ok hold on
[06:19] <ssstormy> did you change the type of the partition
[06:19] <ssstormy> and do mkfs.ext2
[06:19] <ssstormy> and reboot?
[06:19] <ColonelPanique> Keiser shoot man i am damned near drunk right now!
[06:19] <Jared> i created a new partition
[06:19] <Keiser> Hehehe.
[06:19] <Keiser> I should be.
[06:19] <Jared> no...i did
[06:19] <PeteyPablo> whats the terminal command to unzip a .tar.gz ?
[06:19] <Jared> tar xfvz filename
[06:19] <ssstormy> tar zxvf *.tar.gz
[06:19] <intelikey> reboot ?
[06:19] <intelikey> reboot ?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> PeteyPablo, Check the --help and man for tar for more stuff.
[06:19] <sethk> intelikey, twice?
[06:20] <sethk> intelikey, twice?
[06:20] <intelikey> this is not MicroReBoot  this is linux !
[06:20] <Jared> i rebooted......all i know is i used the d command then i typed the n command that created a partiton....that is all i know....what do you mean mkfs.ext2
[06:20] <freelove> Could not grab your mouse.
[06:20] <freelove> A malicious client may be eavesdropping
[06:20] <freelove> on your session.
[06:21] <ssstormy> Jared, you must do
[06:21] <johndarkhorse> freelove: please don't paste
[06:21] <freelove> Could not grab your mouse.
[06:21] <freelove> A malicious client may be eavesdropping
[06:21] <freelove> on your session.
[06:21] <Jared> how...exactly?
[06:21] <ssstormy> mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda<letter>
[06:21] <ssstormy> I mean
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[06:21] <freelove> sorry but is that serious?
[06:21] <ssstormy> if the partition was #1 then it's sda1
[06:21] <Jared> while i am in the fdisk? or in a new terminal
[06:21] <johndarkhorse> freelove: repeat pasting is not acceptable (once is accidental)
[06:22] <garry> a p to see the partitioins will tell you the number for your new partition.
[06:22] <slim> anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.
[06:22] <ssstormy> Jared, while in a terminal
[06:22] <ssstormy> fdisk only takes 1 letter commands
[06:22] <christian_> Anyone awake?
[06:22] <garry> zzz
[06:22] <slim> anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.
[06:22] <Jnx> Garry, why can't I access my NTFS HDD's from my Linux?
[06:22] <coz> Lordmalkor when the window opens to view the sound files go to the edit prefernces ther should be a tick box to preview files
[06:23] <lampshade> Goldfisch:  Perfect answer on the geometry that's exactly what I was looking for
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Barely christian_, going to bed soon.
[06:23] <Jared> yay thankyoiu
[06:23] <Jnx> Why can't I access my NTFS HDD's from my Linux?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Sorry, Jnx that would be.
[06:23] <freelove> johndarkhorse: that was accidenttal...twice:) sorr
[06:23] <Jared> becuz ntfs is retarted...
[06:23] <intelikey> !tell jnx about ntfs
[06:23] <garry> Jnx. It might be because you don't have permissions to do so in fstab. Lemme look for a line and send you what you'll need.
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Jnx: What have you tried?
[06:23] <johndarkhorse> freelove: some of the ops ban on paste <wink>
[06:23] <lampshade> you should be able to read fine  but writing is harder
[06:23] <LordMelkor> coz: k thx
[06:24] <Jnx> I've fixed fstab. dough :P
[06:24] <Jnx> hehe
[06:24] <PeteyPablo> make: don't know how to make all. Stop
[06:24] <PeteyPablo>  what does that mean?
[06:24] <Jared> ubuntu beats the shit out of winblows.....
[06:24] <Jnx> tonyyarusso, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> freelove: There was one time I tried to pm a file's contents all at once, but the carriage returns behaved funny like that, so it pmd one line, and pasted the entire rest of the file.  Ops were not pleased.
[06:24] <Jnx> tonyyarusso, /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[06:25] <freelove> tonyyarusso: :D
[06:25] <intelikey> jnx if you "fixed fstab"  then tell us the rest of the joke.   ok why can you not access your ntfs from linux ?
[06:25] <Jnx> I've got that in my /etc/fstab
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Jnx, What's nls?
[06:25] <Jnx> utf8
[06:25] <Jared> YAY I CAN FINNALLY WRITE!!!!
[06:25] <freelove> i downloaded vlc skins in vlt format....how to install them?
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> Jnx, No, what's it mean?
[06:26] <Kyral> VLC has skins?
[06:26] <Jared> now...how do i give my non root account permission to write to it?
[06:26] <Jnx> Meaning only root can acess it. I think :P
[06:26] <Jrex-Linux> My "Ttotem" wont play any thing, it says I need plugins or something.....
[06:26] <garry> Jnx Ok, here is mine for my ntfs sata drive. You'll need to change the device name. The part you need to add is the user mask part the option with that equal sign. /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       0
[06:26] <Jnx> access *
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> Jnx, I have /dev/sda1       /windows        ntfs    defaults        0       0 for mine.
[06:27] <mbluntman> hello
[06:27] <Jnx> tonyyarusso, I can give that a shot. :) Give me a sec, need to fixx fstab.
[06:27] <Jrex-Linux> How do I upgrade to firefox 1.5?
[06:27] <Jared> ssstormy how do i get it to let my non root account write on my hdd without sudo?
[06:27] <mbluntman> anyone else ever try compiling Miracl on an amd64 kubuntu machine?
[06:27] <ssstormy> Jared, can't do it
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> !tell Jrex-Linux about firefox15
[06:28] <ssstormy> Jared, although you can use a root terminal
[06:28] <Jrex-Linux> oh, ty
[06:28] <intelikey> ro  and  umask ???   setting umask=2  yealds permission of  5 = read only    read+ exec+  to be more exact.
[06:28] <Jared> .....you can't do it?....that really sucks
[06:28] <eugene_> Hey how can I watch video files on the internet using firefox? is that even possible?
[06:28] <ssstormy> Jared, if you right click on the applications menu, and edit menus
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, Yes, with mplayer plugins.
[06:28] <ssstormy> you can enable in t esystem section, the root terminal
[06:29] <garry> Jnx need to probably replace defaults with ro,umask=0722, noauto or auto if you want it to mount automatically at boot time. You should also be able to access ntfs via System/Administration/Disks
[06:29] <intelikey> jared lets see the line in /etc/fstab that mounts the partition in question
[06:29] <ssstormy> Jared, see the thing is, if someone hijacks the computer through the account you're using, you don't want them to be able to mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda1, cause you'd be dead
[06:29] <eugene_> well how do I get those? The firefox site says quicktime, realplayer and windows player plugins all aren't available for linux
[06:29] <ssstormy> intelikey, odds are there is no fstab entry
[06:29] <kobur> How do I get the 64bit version 5.10 to recognize a SB Live card?  Right now it says my sound card is CA0106.
[06:29] <coz> eugene what are you trying to do
[06:29] <ssstormy> intelikey, it's mounting in /media/ so it's probably the automounter
[06:29] <Jared> dude....i don't care........
[06:29] <eugene_> I just wanna use a site life ifilm
[06:29] <eugene_> er like
[06:30] <[nige] > hey all
[06:30] <Jared> i wont be doing anything on it MAJOR
[06:30] <[nige] > :)
[06:30] <[nige] > happy new year tooo :)
[06:30] <intelikey> ssstormy oh yeah and may be usb also....
[06:30] <coz> eugene I use apple movie trailers and you need th emplayer plugin for firefox
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, Yeah, whatever.  We don't need those plugins.
[06:30] <freelove> who says linux apps dont freeze? vlc has freezed and wont respond!
[06:30] <coz> mplaye
[06:30] <PeteyPablo> whats the command to delete something in terminal?
[06:30] <coz> mplayer eugene my typing is bad
[06:30] <eugene_> ok do I get that with synaptic?
[06:30] <intelikey> ssstormy but he could add a line in fstab and fix it that way.
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, apt-get install mplayer-386 (or something appropriate for your system) first.
[06:30] <eugene_> k
[06:30] <coz> no the best way is through automatix but some pwople hate it
[06:30] <tbw> freelove: it's not that they don't freeze, it's more like "less likely that you machine will become unuseable because of said freeze'
[06:31] <mbluntman> anyone able to help with my problem?
[06:31] <ssstormy> intelikey, of course, he can add a line but he can't show you one, and that won't fix the drive being ntfs
[06:31] <La_PaRCa> mbluntman, restate, please
[06:31] <Jrex-Linux> My "Ttotem" wont play any thing, it says I need plugins or something.....
[06:32] <Kyral> Jrex-Linux: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[06:32] <mbluntman> im tryin to compile Miracl on my amd64 machine?
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, Then make sure you have the various codecs that you'll need.  To be honest with you I did apt-get install gstreamer0.8*, but that's overkill.
[06:32] <Jrex-Linux> *totem
[06:32] <coz> Jrex-linus you have to install libs andplugins
[06:32] <La_PaRCa> ubotu tell Jrex-Linux about RestrictedFormats
[06:32] <coz> do you need walkthough
[06:32] <intelikey> ssstormy ntfs ?   jared ?
[06:32] <sethk> ssstormy, well, if the drive is ntfs, "fixing" it will erase everything on it.  :)
[06:32] <mbluntman> La_PaRCa any ideas?
[06:32] <Jnx> garry, 1 sec.
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, Then apt-get install mozilla-mplayer.
[06:32] <intelikey> sethk yeah
[06:32] <Jrex-Linux> libs andplugins?
[06:32] <La_PaRCa> mbluntman, what is miracl and what problem are you getting?
[06:32] <coz> Jrex-Linux do you need walkthrough
[06:32] <mbluntman> miracl is a compiler
[06:32] <Jrex-Linux> yes
[06:33] <eugene_> e: couldn't find package mplayer-386
[06:33] <mbluntman> i need it to compile one damn file
[06:33] <eugene_> oh ok
[06:33] <coz> ok get ready with your terminal
[06:33] <Jrex-Linux> arg
[06:33] <intelikey> i had an ntfs partition but i fixed it.
[06:33] <Jrex-Linux> I hate that thing
[06:33] <garry> same here, I could not find mplayer anything at all.
[06:33] <sethk> mbluntman, what problem are you getting
[06:33] <coz> well first go to firefox and type the address
[06:33] <sethk> mbluntman, if it is really just one file you can compile it by hand
[06:33] <garry> and I  had all repositories enabled
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, It's in multiverse.
[06:33] <mbluntman> the install for the thing has specific instructions, that at my level of linux knowledge i dont understand
[06:33] <Jrex-Linux> can you tell me in pm, coz ?
[06:33] <coz> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/w/w32codecs
[06:34] <mbluntman> some crap about headers
[06:34] <Jrex-Linux> this is quite alot
[06:34] <coz> pm?
[06:34] <Jrex-Linux> of convos
[06:34] <Jrex-Linux> Private message
[06:34] <coz> hold on I never used it before
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, I had to delete the Totem symlinks from the Firefox plugins directory, and then create new ones to the mozilla/plugins one because I installed FF1.5.
[06:34] <intelikey> coz  pm == /msg blah
[06:34] <mbluntman> sethk
[06:34] <mbluntman> can i pm?
[06:35] <sethk> mbluntman, sure
[06:35] <coz> got me on that
[06:35] <garry> by using /say username
[06:35] <La_PaRCa> mbluntman, you need to download the miracle library and put it where your headers are
[06:35] <coz> pm == /msg to whom it may concern?
[06:35] <Jared> how do i sudo remove stuff it its a directory
[06:35] <eobanb> rm -rf
[06:35] <me> okay
[06:35] <Jnx> garry, I don't have to be logged in as root to access my harddrives now right?
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, Find the package yet?
[06:36] <Marc_On_Vacation> Does anyone know how to install Counter Strike Source via Cedega?
[06:37] <Marc_On_Vacation> I've tried all of the different .exe's and i get an error
[06:37] <coz> jrexlinus you still here
[06:37] <Jrex-Linux> yes
[06:37] <coz> sorry about the dcc
[06:37] <coz> you still want to try this
[06:37] <Jrex-Linux> I am scared, so many convus, I can't keep up!
[06:37] <garry> Jnx yes, unless you put in thise parameters I sent to you into the /etc/fstab file. You can also do it via /system/administration/disks and it will ask you for your user password and sudo you into that area.
[06:37] <eugene_> I got gsteamer
[06:37] <eugene_> not mplayer yet
[06:37] <coz> ok how do I dcc here again
[06:37] <Jrex-Linux> *convos
[06:37] <intelikey>  /msg nick message
[06:38] <Jrex-Linux> Just forget it, coz
[06:38] <Jrex-Linux> I found someone else to ask
[06:38] <garry> Jnx to change your /etc/fstab you need to get into a terminal and do sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:38] <coz> I can go slow
[06:38] <coz> ok
[06:38] <Crazy_Man> does one still have to pay for Cedega?
[06:38] <coz> Ok guys I cannot do dcc please help me out
[06:38] <Marc_On_Vacation> Does anyone know how to bypass the "could not execute the external program msiexec.exe" ?
[06:38] <Marc_On_Vacation> Crazy_man, Yes
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, Do you know how to enable multiverse and universe repositories?
[06:38] <Crazy_Man> That's a bit off IMHO....
[06:39] <eugene_> I think I've already done so. I think.
[06:39] <coz> If I want private chat with someon how do I do tha
[06:39] <intelikey> coz what client you using ?
[06:39] <coz> xchat
[06:39] <Crazy_Man> right-click -> open dialog window
[06:39] <Jrex-Linux> I thought ubuntu was for "human beings"
[06:39] <Jrex-Linux> it aperently needs rocket scientists
[06:39] <intelikey> right click their nick and select
[06:40] <Jrex-Linux> I HATE TERMINAL
[06:40] <Crazy_Man> Jrex-Linux: ?
[06:40] <garry> I read that you can get something called the CVS branch and get the cedega source, but you won't get updates, and I have never tried it. The only game I wanted to play via Cedega is not compatible with it.
[06:40] <Jrex-Linux> DIE!
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, No, no, I can do rocket science.
[06:40] <[nige] > how do I add folders to a new hdd
[06:40] <[nige] > ?
[06:40] <Jrex-Linux> hehe
[06:40] <Crazy_Man> Jrex-Linux, what's wrong with a little CLI now and again?
[06:40] <[nige] > I have edited my Fstab, and created the folders, I have other folders on this hdd as well but i want to create a new mount point
[06:40] <Jrex-Linux> Mas caiotic confusion
[06:40] <Jrex-Linux> *mass
[06:40] <[nige] > how do I do that?
[06:40] <Marc_D> Jrex-Linux, it's hard to learn at first - but it gets MUCH easier after you give it a shot. I'm 15 and I've gotten good with it :)
[06:40] <intelikey> what is a folder ?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, Careful about telling things to die.  Might cause problems if they did.
[06:41] <[nige] > I have already run makefs
[06:41] <Crazy_Man> if you use Linux, it's kind've a staple to begin with
[06:41] <Jared> ......how do i sudo rename stuff?
[06:41] <coz> my name is registered
[06:41] <[nige] > and I fear if i do that again i am going to wipe the drive like I did previous
[06:41] <atilla> hi guys is there any alternative easy way to install radeon xpress drivers
[06:41] <johndarkhorse> Jared: you shouldnt
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> Jared, sudo mv.
[06:41] <Crazy_Man> sudo mv <old> <new>
[06:41] <Marc_D> Just learn, when people tell you to type "sudo -i dpkg XXX.bin" Ask why they told you to do it.  Relise what sudo means, etc
[06:41] <Jared> why shouldn't you johndarkhorse
[06:41] <Marc_D> Does anyone here know how to bypass the "Could not execute the external program msiexec.exe"  when installing Counter Strike Source?
[06:42] <johndarkhorse> Jared: cuz the system knows the names of all it's things, if you change the names, you break functionality
[06:42] <varsendagger> hey how do you mount a usb drive?
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> varsendagger, Mine do automatically.
[06:42] <johndarkhorse> Jared: if the file belongs to you, you don't need sudo to rename it
[06:42] <Jared> it don't belong to me
[06:42] <varsendagger> tonyyarusso, do you know how to do it in the cli?
[06:42] <garry> [nige] , all ye need to do is create a new directory usually off of /mnt and then add/edit the line in /etc/fstab via sudo gedit /ect/fstab
[06:42] <intelikey> jared if you just want to change the name of a file or dir in your home use mv file new.name
[06:43] <asterick> evening.
[06:43] <Marc_D> help :(
[06:43] <timfrost> MArc_D, what are you trying to do?
[06:43] <eugene_> to enable multiverse do I have to do anything beyone checking all the normally disabled repositories?
[06:44] <Marc_D> Does anyone here know how to bypass the "Could not execute the external program msiexec.exe"  when installing Counter Strike Source?
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> varsendagger, Let me think.
[06:44] <Marc_D> I'm trying to do that, lol! :(
[06:44] <varsendagger> tonyyarusso, nevermind
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, If part of what you're checking says "Universe" and "Multiverse", then no.
[06:44] <Coag> hello chum diddily ums!
[06:44] <intelikey> jared prepend sudo if you don't own it.     be advised it you monkey with /use* /*bin*  /var* or /etc*  you will probably be in for a reload
[06:44] <Coag> :-P
[06:44] <Marc_D> timfrost, any ideas?
[06:44] <Jrex-Linux> Ubuntu isn't for human beings, I am a human and I don't get any of this console/package/mounting/everything else crap, I'm gonna sue for false advertising
[06:45] <[nige] > garry, I have the folders
[06:45] <Coag> Jrex-Linux: you haven't given it the time of day
[06:45] <Crazy_Man> Jrex-Linux, you have to be willing to learn first and foremost
[06:45] <durt> marc_d: i think that means you need internet explorer installed. i dont know
[06:45] <slim> anyone have any ideas on why I would have to use a "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" command to get internet connectivity when logging in ? This is a wireless network and I can ping the router in this condition and have an ip.
[06:45] <[nige] > garry, and i have edited the fstab, but when I try and access the folders it points to the same place :S
[06:45] <Coag> Jrex-Linux: you do one thing wrong and you freak out
[06:45] <Jrex-Linux> EEEK Coag is here
[06:45] <timfrost> Marc_D, is it a windows game?
[06:45] <Jrex-Linux> you like stalking me?
[06:45] <Marc_D> Yes
[06:45] <Coag> Jrex-Linux: I am often here
[06:45] <Marc_D> I have Cedega though. :(
[06:46] <Jrex-Linux> oh
[06:46] <Jrex-Linux> Well
[06:46] <Marc_D> And it says clearly on the cedega forums that it's suported
[06:46] <Jrex-Linux> um
[06:46] <Kr0ntab> sup peoples
[06:46] <Coag> Jrex-Linux: --> ulm
[06:46] <eugene_> bah
[06:46] <the_padawan> has anyone here experience with 64bit ubuntu?
[06:46] <timfrost> Marc_D, then I presme that thwe installer needs to run under wine.  I don't run wine, so somebody else needs to pick up the pieces:(
[06:46] <garry> [nige]   sounds like you have to unmount the disk. When I had that happen last night, I had to do sudo umount /dev/devname# where # is the mounted partition.
[06:46] <Jrex-Linux> Linux is scary, but at least I haven't given up as easily as the other 7distros I tried
[06:47] <Marc_D> Doh :(
[06:47] <Marc_D> lol, thanks for the help Tim
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Reopening an earlier question: Does anyone know of a trick for opening the modem connection through the sound card that doesn't involve opening up the machine?  For instance, a script that would allow me to check whether there is a dial tone or previous connection/conversation on the phone line before dialing up.
[06:47] <Crazy_Man> Jrex-Linux, why won't you just give it a bleedin' chance?
[06:47] <Crazy_Man> I know it's tough at first
[06:47] <[nige] > garry, i will try remounting the disk
[06:47] <[nige] > brb
[06:47] <Kr0ntab> slim, whats the deal with yer wireless?
[06:48] <Coag> Crazy_Man: I'm about to lecture him :)
[06:48] <Kr0ntab> slide, what type of wireless config are you running?
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> What's up eugene_?
[06:48] <Kr0ntab> oops
[06:48] <slim> krontab, everytime I reboot, I have to manually restart networking to get internet connectivity..
[06:48] <Marc_D> Jrex-Linux, I learned linux by sitting down and just asking a friend to walk me through it.  It took one hour and i'm MUCH happier for it.
[06:48] <Kr0ntab> not slide .. slim
[06:48] <Jrex-Linux> I'm trying!
[06:48] <Crazy_Man> Coag: oh ok
[06:48] <garry> [nige]   you will need to umount and then mount to get it to move.
[06:48] <Kr0ntab> slim, what type of wireless config are you running?
[06:48] <slim> ok how do you do that crazy red letter stuff
[06:48] <Marc_D> Jrex linux, do you have YAhoo/Msn/AIM?
[06:48] <Jrex-Linux> :( lectures
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, I took a lot more than an hour, but I did it without the friend.
[06:49] <garry> [nige] , or even reboot incase umount is confused by the changed line in fstab.
[06:49] <Kr0ntab> slide, you client is configed to auto highlight anything with yer nick
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, Google, and this channel.
[06:49] <Crazy_Man> Jrex-Linux, just out of curiousity, why have you switched to Linux?
[06:49] <Kr0ntab> ack
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, Oh, and breaking things.
[06:49] <[nige] > well when I rebooted it
[06:49] <Kr0ntab> slim, you client is configed to auto highlight anything with yer nick
[06:49] <[nige] > it didnt fix it either
[06:49] <intelikey> tonyyarusso you mean something like (theory1) cat /dev/dsp56k > /dev/dsp    or something that just turns the speaker on....
[06:49] <Marc_D> Yea, Jrex, what do you need linux for?
[06:49] <Murrlin> good evening
[06:49] <[nige] > i am about to check it now
[06:49] <Kr0ntab> getting trigger happy with the autocomplete
[06:49] <the_padawan> question: has anyone been able to play videos and midi files in 64bit ubuntu? last time i tried i gave up.
[06:49] <Jrex-Linux> I need it for my half-life2 garry's mod server
[06:49] <slim> krontab, I am running WEP right now,
[06:49] <Jrex-Linux> and I need to learn linux
[06:49] <garry> [nige] , er send me the line in your fstab.
[06:49] <Jrex-Linux> for myself
[06:49] <eugene_> Well I seach in synaptic showed no signes of mplayer. The command might be wrong or I need to start manually adding respoitories.
[06:49] <Murrlin> I'm sure this is distro related and not desktop manager related: what program will show me my hardware info?
[06:49] <Marc_D> Just have someone do it for you if that's all you need.
[06:50] <garry> Jrex-Linux nods.
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Well, I have no idea what the bit you said does, but basically I want to be able to hear with the speaker whatever is happening on the line.  Like when you just pick up a phone off the hook.
[06:50] <eugene_> man I should slow down with the typing.
[06:50] <Coag> Marc_D: what a horrible thing to say
[06:50] <[nige] > garry,  its seems okay now
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, We'll be happy to help however we can.
[06:50] <Jrex-Linux> oh goodie
[06:50] <garry> [nige]   oh good. Congrats!
[06:50] <[nige] > thanks :)
[06:50] <[nige] > its just the mounting :S
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, All right, add repos isn't so bad.
[06:50] <Murrlin> I used to have one for kde/suse but I'm not sure what ubuntu's equivalent is
[06:50] <Marc_D> Coag, I'm sorry - But Im' being honest. If he doesnt plan to use it on a regular basis he really dosent need to know the ins and outs of linux
[06:50] <intelikey> yes tonyyarusso hmmm let me play with it for a bit and get back to you
[06:51] <Murrlin> (for gnome)
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> !tell eugene_ about easysource
[06:51] <Kr0ntab> slim, whats the issue?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Okay.
[06:51] <Jrex-Linux> hmmm
[06:51] <[nige] > garry, in case your intrested: http://pastebin.com/486808
[06:51] <asterick> ... grrbl.  For some reason, the live-cd I made for 5.10 isn't booting, and 5.6 doesn't support dmraid.  This is frusterating.  And since it's a live CD, I'm wary about loading GCC.
[06:51] <slim> krontab, I have to manually restart networking (sudo invoke rc.d networking restart)  to get outside connectivity after a reboot. other than that it works great
[06:51] <Coag> Marc_D: life is composed of the experiences within, it's possible to just have someone else do things for you for everything, but then what do you learn?
[06:52] <asterick> brb
[06:52] <Jrex-Linux> so my biggest problems: geting totem to do anything (it just wont play any sons or videos, I need plugins in says) and upgrading to firefox 1.5
[06:52] <Jrex-Linux> *songs
[06:52] <Kr0ntab> slim, so... you do have an IP address... but have you also checked yer routing table?
[06:52] <wizardjames> !firefox15
[06:52] <ubotu> firefox15 is, like, see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[06:53] <eugene_> !easysource
[06:53] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:53] <Marc_D> Coag, I guess you've got a point.  I'll resign to say that If I was in his position, I wouldnt learn it just for a server that I'd only interface with for certian things - But I'm not, I'm in tech suport and taking a ton of Techie classes so I need linux (And linux is just more fun)
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, What format songs/videos?
[06:53] <Jrex-Linux> um
[06:53] <Jrex-Linux> mp3
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> !tell Jrex-Linux about restrictedformats
[06:53] <slim> I do have an ip address..I can ping the router, cant ping or traceroute beyone the router til I restart networking..and no I havent checked the routing table...dont know how to be honest :)
[06:53] <wizardjames> !tell Jrex-Linux about firefox15
[06:53] <Kr0ntab> slim, on a reboot... I would issue the following commands to provide more info for us:   ifconfig   and route -n
[06:53] <Coag> Marc_D: I agree linux is just more fun :)
[06:54] <garry> I'm concerned about the last three lines in that fstab. a device partition should only be referred to once in an fstab, and not multiple mount points. Ye will need to choose which one you want to keep.
[06:54] <Jrex-Linux> *sigh, pointing me to a really long wiki page with lots off terminal commands?
[06:54] <slim> you going to be around for a few moments for me to do that krontab?
[06:54] <wizardjames> its not all that hard
[06:54] <wizardjames> infact its really easy
[06:54] <Coag> Jrex-Linux: ulm now
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, They're not too bad.
[06:54] <Marc_D> Coag, <3 the agreements in the middle of disagreements (you see what I did there, <3 is a heart :P )
[06:54] <Marc_D> lol
[06:54] <wizardjames> its copy and paste petty much
[06:54] <Kr0ntab> slim, suuure.
[06:54] <slim> brb
[06:54] <Jrex-Linux> *goes back to ulm to be yelled at by Coag*
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, The Wiki saves us some breathe; ask about the parts you don't understand.
[06:54] <Coag> Marc_D: :P
[06:55] <Marc_D> Coag, no chance you play Counterstrike Source, is there? I need someone to walk me through the install
[06:55] <Coag> i do actually
[06:55] <pablo928> Awhile ago I reformatted my hdd and reloaded breezy. When I was going to reinstall my cd burning app I realized I couldn't recall the name of it. It's the one which has the graphical penguin. Can anyone help?
[06:55] <Coag> do you mean the srcds install?
[06:55] <Jrex-Linux> I am sorry guys for coomplaining so much, and I am very greatful for your help.
[06:56] <wizardjames> Jrex-Linux,  if u need any 1:1 help, i can help you
[06:56] <Marc_D> Coag, can we speak in a private room, it's hard to read here.
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, Same here.
[06:56] <Coag> Marc_D: sure thing
[06:56] <Kr0ntab> pablo928, prolly k3b?
[06:56] <Kr0ntab> pablo928, give that a try
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Jrex-Linux, btw, coming from Windows, the terminal concept kind of worried me too, but I've since gone the "Sweet, I can do that?!?" route with it.
[06:56] <Jared> where do i get the libcssdvd
[06:56] <pablo928> Kr0ntab; no it's not that one
[06:56] <garry> [nige]   a partitions should only appear once in an fstab and have only one mount point. Also each drive should have it's own unique mount point, but this last isn't an issue in your fstab that I noticed.
[06:57] <Kr0ntab> pablo928, bummer.
[06:57] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[06:57] <Jrex-Linux> hehe
[06:57] <Marc_D> coag, I have a Dialoug window open.
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> Jared, The VLC site has a repo.
[06:57] <Jared> huh?
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> Jared: Hold on...
[06:57] <Crazy_Man> Jared, PLF repos
[06:58] <pablo928> Kr0ntabd-what's worse is that i,ve been using it for about a year and now can't remember the name
[06:58] <Kr0ntab> Jared, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Jared: Crazy_Man's idea works too.
[06:58] <eugene_> hmmm every time I try to gedit the sources list through the terminal it makes up a new file and has it starting from ym account folder... hmmm
[06:58] <timfrost> pablo928, was it a gnome or KDE app, or somethnmg generic like xcdroast?
[06:58] <Crazy_Man> Jared: then you can just get it from Synaptic/aptitude
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> eugene_, It's at /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Jared, See http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
[06:59] <Jared> krontab's idea works better though...thanks anyway
[06:59] <pablo928> timfrost- i believe it was a generic app, definitely not kde
[06:59] <[nige] > garry, so is there a problem with it on the /dev/hdb1 ?
[06:59] <Marc_D> Coag, can you see the dialoug window?
[06:59] <[nige] > garry, should the hdb1 only appear once then
[06:59] <Coag> i can't see text from you, know
[06:59] <garry> [nige]   yes. and yes.
[06:59] <Marc_D> Hm
[06:59] <Coag> Marc_D: join #coag
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> Is there more stuff like that for restricted stuff, Kr0ntab?
[07:00] <[nige] > garry, so how do i define multiple mount points on 1 drive?
[07:00] <Kr0ntab> tonyyarusso, eh... thats the only one I know of... like that anyway....   :-P
[07:01] <timfrost> pablo928, gnomebaker seems to be the gnome tool. xcdroast is generic.  And cdrecord is the CLI program
[07:01] <Kr0ntab> I just add restricted, universe, and multiverse in all my ubuntu sources.   anything else I can't get... I compile... or find a stand alone .deb
[07:01] <Jrex-Linux> I don't know how you guys can concentrate on anything in this channel, so busy and all. Thank you so much for helping me.  I must go now. Bye.
[07:01] <timfrost> Kr0ntab, don't forget main for all repositories
[07:02] <Kr0ntab> those are there by default... hehe...
[07:02] <Kr0ntab> course
[07:02] <cdub> anyone got a quick moment
[07:02] <johndarkhorse> Kr0ntab: using debian debs may break your machine
[07:02] <garry> [nige] , you don't. I am not sure how to do it best, but I would probably create links to the folders, so you can get at the directories quicly. On second thought, let me see if I know what I am talking about.
[07:02] <cdub> i need some assistance
[07:02] <TranceRiver> I'm buying a PCI wireless adapter to run with my WRT54G version 2.2 linksys router. What's a good card that has full compatibility with ubuntu?
[07:02] <Kr0ntab>  dont use debian .deb's  ... stand alone ubuntu debs... if absolutely necessary....
[07:03] <johndarkhorse> cdub: ask the channel, dont ask to ask
[07:03] <nekostar> when unrarring something i got a wierd error....
[07:03] <Kr0ntab> I only have about 3 of those...  everything eslse obscure... compile.
[07:03] <nekostar> said something about it had a utime error.. any clue what that means plz?
[07:03] <pablo928> timfrost- went and searched the forums, the app I was looking for is Graveman
[07:03] <cdub> what
[07:03] <TranceRiver> I've read on some newegg reviews, and some say to be incompatible with ubuntu.
[07:03] <PuRo> hey gold if your here thanks alot
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> !tell cdub about ask
[07:03] <PuRo> for the help earlier
[07:03] <[nige] > garry, okay :)
[07:03] <PuRo> i finally got it to work
[07:04] <Kr0ntab> TranceRiver, for a laptop?
[07:04] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell TranceRiver about wireless
[07:04] <garry> Hello folks. A user is asking me about mounting the same partition to multiple mount points cache, pictures, video for example. I think that a partition should only be referred to once in fstab and use links instead. Am I correct?
[07:04] <timfrost> Kr0ntab, I have seen a problem cased by a person *removing* main and restricted from the breezy repository.  Caused him lots of problems
[07:04] <slim> krontab Im back when you are ready.
[07:04] <TranceRiver> Currently for a desktop.
[07:04] <PuRo> if i understand correctly if i install wine-i can use photoshop on my linux laptop am i correct? is there type of issues with the software
[07:04] <riza_> hi
[07:05] <garry> the links so he can access the particulary folders he needs to get at after mounting.
[07:05] <Kr0ntab> hehehe... yeah.  Or better yet... adding debian sources to apt.  that just about hoses everything...
[07:05] <timfrost> pablo928, not one I use.  have you located it in a repository?
[07:05] <Kr0ntab> "oh lookie.... a whoel crapload of upgradeable packages.."
[07:06] <TranceRiver> johndarkhorse, thanks. I'll take a look.
[07:06] <slim> krontab what info did you need from those commands? I have an idea now what the problem may be though.
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, Yep, did that one once.
[07:06] <Kr0ntab> slim, well... for one.. you need to make sure you have one entry for a default gateway....
[07:06] <TranceRiver> Are basically all wireless adapter cards the same? In the sense of speed and whatnot? Also, do you think that USB has any advantages over PCI? Or are they the same.
[07:07] <TranceRiver> It will be for a desktop computer.
[07:07] <garry> [nige]  hmm, no reply. I guess if this scheme doesn't cause the system to try to multiply unmount the same partition or cause locking between the three mounts, than if it's working I guess ye might as well leave it as is.
[07:07] <[nige] > garry, cheers for that
[07:07] <Jared> i can't tell much difference TranceRiver
[07:07] <[nige] > :)
[07:07] <[nige] > garry,  I will look into it a little more too
[07:07] <[nige] > :)
[07:07] <slim> krontab, I think that might be what the problem is? cause when I first run ifconfig, I have an eth0 and ath0 entry..when I restart networking I only have ath0 (plus loopback of course)
[07:08] <Jared> cause i have set up ones in pci and they are just as effective as usb....usb is a bit easier to manage and setup to me
[07:08] <Kr0ntab> ath0  .. yer using madwifi drivers?
[07:08] <slim> yes
[07:08] <Kr0ntab> atheros chipset
[07:08] <slim> yup
[07:08] <Kr0ntab> which is yer good interface?
[07:08] <slim> ath0 right now
[07:08] <slim> no cable in my ethernet port at the moment :)
[07:09] <Kr0ntab> you using dhcp or static?
[07:09] <slim> static
[07:09] <garry> [nige]  yep, good idea. Might try posting the fstab and ask in alt.os.linux.ubuntu I stay away from alt.os.linux myself, people flame newbies there and tend to get really talk mean. Silly of them, but such is life when some folke like to do internet road rage.
[07:09] <Kr0ntab> ahh.. ok.
[07:10] <Kr0ntab> well... what config do you have in yer /etc/network/interfaces ?
[07:10] <slim> you want me to paste it here?
[07:10] <timfrost> slim, use pastebin
[07:10] <Kr0ntab> you can PM me... so you dont flood the channel
[07:11] <slim> pastebin?
[07:11] <slim> ok kron
[07:11] <garry> Anyone see anything wrong with this fstab? Please? Its not mine, and I'd hate to see something go boom. http://pastebin.com/486808
[07:11] <[nige] > garry, I know what you mean
[07:11] <Kr0ntab> unless everyone else wants him to paste.  not sure if thats good etiquette to solve issues in background.
[07:11] <mmhss> can u install/play cs:s on ubuntu?
[07:12] <Jared> my computer still wont read dvds
[07:12] <Jared> wtcrap?
[07:12] <garry> He had already pasted it beforehand.
[07:12] <Kr0ntab> pastebin.... thats friggin cool.   hmmm...
[07:12] <Dashiva> pastebin?
[07:12] <intelikey> anyone else run a "no suid" system ?
[07:12] <timfrost> garry, 3 entries for /dev/hdb1????
[07:12] <garry> I do agree, having to deal with says in background is painful.
[07:13] <mmhss> is it possible to play cs:s under ubuntu?
[07:13] <Dashiva> slowly
[07:13] <Dashiva> you can finangle it with wine but it's kind of a pain
[07:13] <mmhss> :|
[07:14] <Dashiva> might be able to use the dx7 renderer to get decent speed
[07:14] <garry> Timfrost, I can't read the third letter in your name is it m or n? I too am concerned about three entries for the same partition.
[07:14] <Dashiva> guarantee there's a faq on google somwhere
[07:14] <Kr0ntab> slim, go to www.pastebin.com
[07:14] <slim> yikes I am an unregistered user so I cant pm :(
[07:14] <slim> pastebin it is
[07:14] <viscount> I just added breezy backports, are there any packages in there worth installing? I didn `apt-get dselect-upgrade` but nothing much really happened, just a few minor apps.
[07:14] <_smd_> Has antonw had problems with previewing( ie watching part of it) a movie in gtk-gnutella before it is down downloading and the rest not downloading ever?
[07:15] <Kr0ntab> slide, paste in yer results... and paste the resulting url...
[07:15] <Kr0ntab> oops
[07:15] <Kr0ntab> not slide...
[07:15] <slim> http://pastebin.com/486826
[07:15] <durt> garry: what is that device, /dev/hdb? another hard drive?
[07:15] <Kr0ntab> damnit... sorry
[07:15] <timfrost> garry, do you knowe whgat those 3 entries are intended for? Coz defaukts means that they will be processed at boot.  No guarantee which of them will be mounted at the end
[07:15] <[nige] > . /dev/hdb is another hdd
[07:16] <garry> durt yes, its another hd.
[07:17] <garry> timfrost yes, I am concerned about the same sort of thing, also what happens when the system tries to unmount it three times.
[07:17] <Kr0ntab> slide, you have two entries for separate interfaces... each of them are using the exact same IP's... and default gateways...
[07:17] <Jared> YAY MY COMPUTER PLAYS DVD'S
[07:17] <slim> I thought that might be the problem...argh.
[07:17] <Kr0ntab> you'll need to change the IP's...
[07:17] <Kr0ntab> give that a shot...
[07:18] <slim> is there a way to set that so the computer picks whichever is available??
[07:18] <Kr0ntab> just make them 76 and 77...
[07:18] <timfrost> garry, umount shouldn['t be a problem
[07:18] <TranceRiver> "Supports network install" on the wireless adapter page
[07:18] <durt> i would either have just one entry, or repartition the drive
[07:18] <TranceRiver> What does that mean?
[07:18] <slim> or would commenting out the eth0 entry be useful?
[07:18] <garry> timfrost k, thanks.
[07:18] <ubuntuking> hello all
[07:18] <chasmarang> Where do I change my password
[07:18] <slim> let me try different ips first and Ill tell you what happens, ok?
[07:18] <Kr0ntab> welp... it would if you dont intend to use the eth0 interface on bootup...
[07:18] <timfrost> slim, Kr0ntab, bothath0 and eth0 have the same IP address. Is that correct for your network, slim?
[07:18] <garry> passwd
[07:19] <maltron> hi all - can anyone tell me why ubuntu 5.10 keeps crashing on my brother's athlon xp1800?  I've tried a bunch of fixes from the forums to no avail.
[07:19] <slim> tim,, apparently not :)
[07:19] <maltron> it crashes whenever you use opengl
[07:19] <garry> or system/administration/user manager
[07:19] <intelikey> tonyyarusso exactly what kind of modem are we talking here ?     usb modem   winmodem with ndiswarper   internal modem ?????
[07:19] <Kr0ntab> timfrost, thats what I'm suggesting to him....  I'd like to see the results of his route -n on first boot
[07:19] <maltron> xscreensaver, glxgears
[07:19] <chasmarang> thanks garry
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, internal winmodem on a laptop.
[07:19] <[nige] > does the graphics card support opengl
[07:19] <slim> I have those kron, would you like me to pastebin those?
[07:19] <[nige] > ?
[07:19] <garry> chasmarang welcome.
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Using HSF driver from Linuxant.
[07:20] <intelikey> k working...
[07:20] <Kr0ntab> slim, can you do that please?  route -n on first boot.. before refreshing yer networking scripts
[07:20] <TranceRiver> Tony, do you live in MN?
[07:20] <Kr0ntab> yup
[07:20] <slim> one second kron
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> TranceRiver, Yeah, but I go to school in Ontario.
[07:20] <TranceRiver> Is your father named Dave Yarusso?
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> TranceRiver, Yep.
[07:21] <TranceRiver> I am Mike Carroll.
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> TranceRiver, So you would be?
[07:21] <maltron> nige if you're talking to me, then yeah, it's a radeon 9000
[07:21] <TranceRiver> Patrick Carroll's son.
[07:21] <[nige] > ahhh
[07:21] <TranceRiver> erm
[07:21] <slim> http://pastebin.com/486832
[07:21] <TranceRiver> Brother*.
[07:21] <maltron> i've got the open source radeon and dri modules running
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> TranceRiver, Uh, about that, yeah.
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> TranceRiver, Cool stuff.
[07:21] <maltron> the opengl works for about a second, then the screen freezes
[07:22] <TranceRiver> He's getting his eagle soon.
[07:22] <[nige] > maltron, if you type in fglrxinfo what does it output?
[07:22] <Kr0ntab> yup
[07:22] <[nige] > maltron, that need to be done via the terminal
[07:22] <Kr0ntab> eth0 and ath0 both have default gateway entries...
[07:22] <crimsun> TranceRiver: / tonyyarusso: y'all wouldn't mind discussing that in #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[07:22] <maltron> nige, not using fglrxinfo - using dri
[07:22] <Kr0ntab> slim, thats yer problem...
[07:22] <TranceRiver> We're PMing now.
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Yeah, taking it out now.
[07:22] <crimsun> thanks.
[07:22] <Dreamglider> i need some help here:http://roi.torkilsheyggi.fo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=42
[07:22] <maltron> did lsmod and got module radeon, and module dri using radeon
[07:23] <slim> sooo what should I do? comment out the gateway entry under eth0?
[07:23] <Kr0ntab> slim, line 5 and 6 are screwing you up
[07:23] <[nige] > maltron,  it seems like you dont have open gl insstalled....ati are particulary nasty with the drivers
[07:23] <Dreamglider> i follow that guide but when i do "setxkbmap fo"
[07:23] <slim> 5 and 6 in my interfaces file ?
[07:23] <Dreamglider> Error loading new keyboard description
[07:23] <Kr0ntab> commenting out eth0 would fix it....
[07:23] <maltron> no it's definitely installed i think.  I didn't install the proprietary ati drivers, but the open source dri stuff is all there
[07:24] <slim> all of eth0 or just the gateway line?
[07:24] <Kr0ntab> slim, is there a reason why yer not using dhcp?
[07:24] <[nige] > maltron, install the ati drivers
[07:24] <maltron> nige the opengl stuff works really smooth for a second and then it freezes.
[07:24] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me ?
[07:24] <intelikey> tonyyarusso being a winmodem is giving me a little bit of a problem...  ah you might checkout  ohphone  and see if it can't be used to simply pick up the reciever (so to speak)       i'm still checking a more dirrect way....
[07:24] <[nige] > maltron, yer, thats why i think its opengl compatablity errors
[07:24] <slim> sort of..I dual boot and my XP network works better when I statically assign...
[07:25] <slim> so I was trying to keep it the same.
[07:25] <[nige] > maltron, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Installation_Guide
[07:25] <intelikey> !info ohphone
[07:25] <ubotu> ohphone: (Command line H.323 client with X, SVGA and SDL support), section universe/comm, is optional. Version: 1:1.4.3+20050304-3build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 224 kB
[07:25] <intelikey> tonyyarusso ^
[07:25] <slim> why do you ask?
[07:25] <maltron> nige: xscreensaver crashed with the saver tha that had an ant with a searchlight look, and then when i logged in with ssh noticed that that screensaver too 99% and i couldn't kill it, even after killing xscreensaver itself.  But it was working really smoothly for about 5 seconds before
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Will look into that.  Thanks for all your effort.
[07:26] <intelikey> i havent given up yet....
[07:26] <maltron> nige: i didn't want to install the proprietary ati drivers because i've had big stability issues with them on my debian laptop
[07:26] <slim> bueller? :)
[07:26] <maltron> nige: plus, on the forums, heaps of people have had a similar problem with nvidia, and with the fglrx driver too
[07:27] <Kr0ntab> slim, if you use dhcp... each interfcae will automatically pick up different IP's   because the MAC's are different..  also... the inactive interface will not receive an IP... because it's not plugged in.  so... you wont have the double gateway issue.
[07:27] <maltron> nige: so i don't think it's specifically that
[07:27] <slim> ok...that seems, well, easier :)
[07:27] <Kr0ntab> plus... you'll have the added benefit of being able to plug yer eth0 interface and have it boot and just work... if wireless is down.
[07:28] <slim> ok...that sounds like what I want basically :) so what do I need to do, besides RTFM :)
[07:28] <[nige] > maltron, i am running a radeon 9550, with asus mainboard that uses nvdia controllers and its okay..
[07:28] <Kr0ntab> first... register with nickserv so we can take this off chan
[07:28] <[nige] > maltron, but i am also running the ATI specific drivers
[07:28] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[07:28] <[nige] > brb
[07:28] <maltron> nige: it seems that bunches of people have had that problem and i tried all the fixes - removing powernowd, disabling apic and acpi, changing the agp aperture... nothing works
[07:28] <rockinchado> how do you create a link to an executable so i can put it in the bin folder so i can run the prog from the command line
[07:28] <mbluntman> i got an ati question
[07:28] <mbluntman> if anyone interested
[07:29] <Dreamglider> in ubuntu, is it posible to have diffrent wallpapers on each four desktops ?
[07:29] <garry> Often when I go try to RTFM I find that I am Reading THe Fossilized Manual.
[07:29] <maltron> nige: some people still couldn't fix it after 10 pages of the thread, and several weeks
[07:29] <maltron> nige: some people solved it right away, but each with a different fix
[07:29] <mbluntman> im runnin ati radeon 9200 all-in-wonder, is it possible to get my dual monitor workin
[07:30] <maltron> nige: it seems to be a problem at another level
[07:30] <slim> umm register with nickserv...ok...?
[07:30] <dorto> how to disable ntp service from starting at the boot time?
[07:30] <dorto> its taking lots of time...
[07:30] <maltron> nige: not the driver itself, but maybe xorg, or something... I wish I knew!
[07:30] <dorto> its not listed in Administration->Services
[07:31] <maltron> nige: apparently the ubuntu people don't know, because the same problem cropped up in several threads and in none was a proper fix reported
[07:31] <Dreamglider> dorto, you can press Ctrl+c when ntp service starts
[07:31] <PeYton> hello
[07:31] <garry> mbluntman, If your driver is like mine, in the readme file that came with my driver, it tells how to set up two monitors.
[07:31] <mbluntman> in linux?
[07:31] <dorto> Dreamglider: that's what i have been doing until now
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> dorto, I know there's a better way than that out there, I just don't use it.
[07:31] <dorto> Dreamglider: isn't there a permanent way to to stop it
[07:31] <mbluntman> garry
[07:31] <dorto> tonyyarusso: k
[07:31] <slew> hi, what file does ubuntu read when its booting?
[07:32] <Dreamglider> dorto, yes but i dont know how :/
[07:32] <maltron> nige: i thought maybe there was a hardware conflict, like with the pci cards or something, so i removed all except the graphics card and the network card - no difference
[07:32] <mbluntman> it displays BUT is distorted bad, like its trying to play PAL on an NTSC tv
[07:32] <dorto> Dreamglider: k, :)
[07:32] <Dreamglider> i have one id realy like to get rid of to
[07:32] <mbluntman> ohhh btw, my 2nd monitor is a 27" television
[07:32] <Dreamglider> it's GMS SMS send deamon wich takes a long time to shut down
[07:32] <PeYton> everything works on my Toshiba lap, but after installing the nvidia-glx and enableing it, when it restarts, the system hangs on a blank screen..Anyone know of a fix?
[07:34] <vulturesrow> krontab, Im up , check pm
[07:34] <PeYton> anyone?
[07:34] <LCamel_> hi all ... has anybody ever tried to install kubuntu-desktop in a vserver environment ?
[07:34] <asterick> yay... managed to get my livecd for breezy to work.
[07:34] <shad0w2e>  I got an error during a partition resize.. now my partition isn't readable, (contains FAT ERRORS), but it is recognzied as a FAT32 partition, and it's label is recognized too. Any suggestions on a means for recovery?? I only need a couple of the stuff on there.... Thanks
[07:34] <PeYton> is anyone seeing me type anything?
[07:34] <garry> PeYton, try ctrl+Alt F2 and see if you can get into a console you can see and then remove the install.
[07:35] <asterick> PeYton: nope. not a thing.
[07:35] <PeYton> lol
[07:35] <PeYton> thanks
[07:35] <coag> sorry about that
[07:35] <PeYton> remove the nvidia install?
[07:35] <PeYton> but I need the 3d enabled...kind of a n00b here...lol
[07:35] <asterick> now, just to see if gparted will explode because of dmraid.
[07:36] <shad0w2e> the term is newb
[07:36] <PeYton> it wont even let me do that...keyboard locked and everything
[07:36] <garry> Yeah, some have had issues with the newest nvidia driver. that is why I'm using the second newest.
[07:36] <coag> !wube
[07:36] <ubotu> coag: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:36] <coag> err
[07:36] <coag> !wine
[07:36] <PeYton> what version os the second newest?
[07:36] <garry> or try commenting out the glx stuff in xorg.conf and see if that helps, but that's just a guess, so take with grain of salt.
[07:36] <garry> sec, lookng ...
[07:37] <livertrip> hello!
[07:37] <PeYton> I have messed with xorg a little bit, commented out a few things that I thought helped, but no go.
[07:37] <meta> cant get breezy to install properly ... i'm hanging at X startup time ... booting into recovery mode, and a manual startx has the same result ... ati9600agp.intel845 ... i c others are reporting this on the support forums as well ... anybody got a workaround?
[07:37] <livertrip> just installed ubuntu
[07:37] <PeYton> thought it might have something to do with KDE so I am switching to Gnome.
[07:38] <garry> the version I have is 1.0-7667
[07:38] <PeYton> thats what was on the sepositories
[07:38] <mumanddad> cool liver :-)
[07:38] <intelikey> hmmmm tonyyarusso find anything useful with ohphone ?
[07:38] <PeYton> 7667 was what is installed.
[07:39] <mumanddad> if you need any help with anything this is the place :-)
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Not yet, multitasking a bit too much.
[07:39] <PeYton> been searching all over the net to try and fix this, if I can get it resolved I will be rockin
[07:39] <meta> folks, anyone discover a workaround to the X startup problem w/ breezy?
[07:40] <intelikey> well i drew a blank on the goose i was chasing tonyyarusso   but that's a good question and i've wondered it before.
[07:40] <garry> I dunno Meta but I hear ye.
[07:40] <intelikey> just never tried to answer it.
[07:40] <vulturesrow> check
[07:41] <meta> garry, tell me about it mate ... this hurts badly right now ... breezy is a complete no-go for me here!
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Will keep looking through it anyway.
[07:41] <PeYton> breezy doing good for me so far except for this restart-blank screen lock up thing...lol
[07:42] <intelikey> #UBUNTU    how do you cause the modem speaker and line to ingauage without issuing a dial command ?
[07:42] <meta> Peyton, u got a workaround when it hangs?
[07:42] <PeYton> nope....been trying to fix this for days
[07:42] <garry> meta Yep, I hear ye. I had issues at first when I tried installing it. It kept installing grub on my first sata NTFS drive instead of the correct drive = destroying access to windows.
[07:42] <meta> i can't even get in the first time ... much less a restart!
[07:42] <intelikey> how to tell the modem to just pick up the phone and pipe it to the /dev/dsp56k   ???
[07:43] <PeYton> ouch, that does hurt...
[07:43] <PeYton> will it let you go in command line mode?
[07:43] <meta> i can go into the 'recovery mode' boot option, but startx there fails similarly.
[07:43] <meta> any word from the ubuntu tech guys on this yet?
[07:44] <PeYton> Meta, i may not be much help here, --->newb
[07:44] <meta> i don't see any acknowledgments of tthe problem on the forums.
[07:44] <polpak> meta, what is the problem?
[07:44] <crimsun> meta: reproducible on dapper flight 2 live cd, too?
[07:44] <meta> polpak, can't start X  ... fresh breezy install ... ati9600agp.intel845.
[07:44] <intelikey> meta fresh install ?
[07:45] <meta> fresh
[07:45] <intelikey> or did you have files in /home/youname
[07:45] <meta> happens on liveCD as well
[07:45] <meta> nope, brand new install on a fresh machine ... single boot, new drive
[07:45] <crimsun> meta: even on dapper flight 2?
[07:45] <intelikey> hardware issue....
[07:45] <polpak> meta, have you tried installing the ati drivers?
[07:46] <intelikey> meta what vidio card and monitor ?
[07:46] <polpak> meta, and does it give an error, or ?
[07:46] <meta> crimsun, don't know dapper flight2, intelikey, ati9600agp, viewsonic p95f
[07:46] <meta> no error, just blank screen, signal loss.
[07:46] <PeYton> wish I had this many people helping me....lmao
[07:46] <garry> His card is a ati9600agp.intel845
[07:47] <vulturesrow> Krontab, worked like a champ, thanks for the help!
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> :-D
[07:47] <dle> Hi.  Does Breezy run cron or anacron by default?
[07:47] <Kr0ntab> hey not a problem.
[07:47] <polpak> meta, so you have both an onboard video card and an agp radeon?
[07:47] <timfrost> dle, both.
[07:47] <PeYton> Krontab, can you help me out:)
[07:47] <doluu> is there any canonical staff?
[07:47] <vulturesrow> Ive been beating my head against the wall for like 3 days now trying to figure this out.
[07:47] <crimsun> meta: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-2/
[07:47] <vulturesrow> Thanks a million
[07:47] <dle> timfrost - That's what it looked like to me.
[07:47] <meta> polpak, yep.
[07:48] <dle> timfrost - Do you know why that is?
[07:48] <Kr0ntab> glad to help, bud.
[07:48] <garry> Oh good question polpak. ye need to disable the onboard one probably.
[07:48] <polpak> meta, and you've confirmed that the video isn't just going to the other card?
[07:48] <vulturesrow> funny thing is, I thought that something like that might be the problem..anyhow, thanks again. Cheers.
[07:48] <intelikey> is it switching to the onboard when X takes over ?  meta
[07:48] <timfrost> dle, no. I assume that they do different parts of the job.
[07:48] <meta> liveCD does manage to start x all the way to the splashscreen and gnome start sequence ... then poof!
[07:48] <dle> Guess so.  Thanks. :)
[07:49] <Dreamglider> can someone send me the file "pc" in the dir /etc/X11/xkb/symbols pleas
[07:49] <PeYton> blank screen and lock up on Toshiba laptop, anyone know how to fix?
[07:49] <meta> inteli ... can't say ...don't c why it would ... liveCD definitely stays on ati after X start.
[07:49] <garry> Notice the two good questions polpack asked.
[07:49] <Kr0ntab> PeYton, just ask the question.  lots of people in here may be able to help.
[07:49] <intelikey> polpak we are on the same train of thought there, so i'll let you take it.
[07:49] <PeYton> after restart that is
[07:49] <Klementas> does anyone know the package I need to install in order to get a full and configured X installation without installing either gnome or kde ??
[07:49] <polpak> intelikey, ;)
[07:49] <PeYton> OK
[07:49] <eugene_> This is probably off topic but, If I wanted to make a fileserver for a home network the distro would just need samba and optionally that remote terminal right?
[07:49] <Kr0ntab> vulturesrow, :-)  thats great.
[07:49] <dle> timfrost - Nonetheless restart in both from /etc/init.d/ produces only 1 process -- called cron.
[07:50] <dle> restarting
[07:50] <polpak> eugene_, samba server and either vnc or at the very least sshd
[07:50] <garry> Klementas, X should install by default. its used by both kde, gnome and possibly other.
[07:50] <PeYton> I have a freesh copy of Ubuntu installed, nvidia-glx installed everything works great...but....
[07:50] <Klementas> garry: I don't install the full ubuntu though
[07:50] <garry> unless you told it not to.
[07:50] <PeYton> when rebooting, screen goes blank and system hangs....anyone?
[07:50] <polpak> meta, when it goes blank try plugging the monitor into the other port
[07:50] <JadussD> !w32codecs
[07:50] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:50] <polpak> meta, i.e. the onboard one and see if the screen is there instead
[07:50] <LordMelkor> im having trouble burning a data cd
[07:51] <siglappy> !suspend2
[07:51] <ubotu> suspend2 is, like, at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443
[07:51] <LordMelkor> i get
[07:51] <LordMelkor> the message that k3b is unable to fixate disk
[07:51] <PeYton> if I do not installed Nvidia drivers, system reboots everytime, if I install it, it hangs on reboot
[07:51] <garry> Klementas Oh, that makes a difference. Hmm. Lots of apt-get stuff to do in that case. I don't know which ones tho.
[07:51] <meta> polpak ... sry for the false alert .. there is no onboard video ... (my bad).
[07:51] <polpak> Klementas, I believe you want xubuntu-desktop
[07:52] <Klementas> polpak: I don't want that either
[07:52] <Klementas> polpak: just X
[07:52] <polpak> Klementas, um...
[07:52] <PeYton> Tried Kubuntu and the same thing happened/
[07:52] <garry> Ye know, I had a similar thing as Meta, but my X worked. It said I had an intel something board plus my nvidia, and yet I only had nvidia.
[07:52] <PeYton> Ubuntu 5.10 hangs on reboot, system locks up, can anyone help me?
[07:53] <meta> so, onboard is not a factor ... does breezy require a manual ati driver update?
[07:53] <polpak> meta, no, it shouldn't
[07:53] <polpak> meta, but it wouldn't hurt
[07:53] <meta> which ones does the distro install by default.
[07:53] <Kr0ntab> PeYton, im not sure.  (not ignoring you... just not sure).   what happens when you stop GDM first... then the 3 finger solute (ctrl-alt-delete)
[07:53] <dle> timfrost - Ah, 'restart' in the anacron script does nothing.  Not even a useful message.
[07:53] <polpak> meta, I'm curious to see your xorg.conf file though if you can pastebin it
[07:53] <PeYton> never tried that..have no idea, why?
[07:54] <PeYton> I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
[07:54] <Dreamglider> can someone send me the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc pleas
[07:54] <Kr0ntab> PeYton, ctrl+alt+F1 .... log in....  then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[07:54] <PeYton> it's just wierd....without the Nvidia drivers installed, system works fine
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider, If you tell me how, I will.
[07:55] <meta> sry, paste is hard to do ... i've inspected it ... looks ok, ... anything i should look for and report back? (recognised the ati and monitor correctly, display, screen modes and depths look fine)
[07:55] <PeYton> k
[07:55] <Klementas> no one knows ?
[07:55] <polpak> Klementas, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[07:55] <Kr0ntab> PeYton, then reboot...  see what yer system hangs on
[07:55] <Klementas> polpak: k
[07:55] <PeYton> ok will do...thanks
[07:55] <ara> how do i take that lock symbol from a folder?
[07:55] <crimsun> Klementas: use x-window-system-core
[07:56] <polpak> ara, didn't I help you with this before?
[07:56] <Klementas> crimsun: ok, thanks
[07:56] <ara> polpak, i had to leave that time, i didn't actualy try
[07:56] <polpak> meta, My best suggestion would be to try installing the ati binary drivers\
[07:57] <polpak> meta, But I've honestly had no trouble with my radeons using the default driver
[07:57] <Klementas> there needs to be a GNUstep-desktop meta package
[07:57] <ara> polpak , what was that chown command again?
[07:57] <polpak> ara, ah.. well. You just need to chown the directory
[07:57] <Papageno> How do I set the system time from the terminal? Or how do I set my time zone?
[07:57] <polpak> ara, so cd ~/Desktop
[07:57] <timfrost> Dreamglider, I have pasted mine to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6476
[07:57] <crimsun> Klementas: make one.
[07:57] <polpak> ara, then sudo chown -R ara:ara directory
[07:57] <Dreamglider> timfrost, thanks alot
[07:58] <ara> polpak ok let me try
[07:58] <Klementas> crimsun: are there any GNUstep at all on ubuntu ?
[07:58] <meta> polpak, i agree ... i c nothing to implicate the drivers ... also i c users reporting exactly the same symptoms on nv cards (install support forum) ... there is something else going on here ...
[07:58] <timfrost> Dreamglider, hopwe it helps
[07:58] <xp__> why do poeple like ubuntu more than like centos?
[07:58] <polpak> ara, assuming that ara is your ubuntu login name and directory is the name of your directory
[07:58] <Klementas> crimsun: packages that is
[07:58] <polpak> ara, and also assuming the directory is still on your desktop
[07:58] <xp__> why is it better than say suse?
[07:59] <Khaine> cos i said so :P
[07:59] <_smd_>  Has anyone had problems with previewing( ie watching part of it) a movie in gtk-gnutella before it is done downloading and the rest does not download ever? 2 times this has happened that i had peeked at what movie i was trying to down loaded and it quit downloading altogether.
[07:59] <polpak> xp__, larger userbase = better support.. Also much of it 'just works' out of the box the way users would want it to
[07:59] <crimsun> Klementas: apt-cache search gnustep
[07:59] <xp__> I have to pick an enterprise server for a samba pdc, would ubuntu be a good choice?
[07:59] <Klementas> crimsun: I gotta install this thing first ;)
[08:00] <crimsun> Klementas: then use http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:00] <ara> polpak : it says invalid option --r
[08:00] <mihai> can someone help me to split an avi video?
[08:00] <Khaine> well ubuntu is a desktop distro
[08:00] <Klementas> crimsun: ah, thanks
[08:00] <polpak> _smd_, I don't use gnutella, but I have no trouble "peeking" at files being dloaded via bit torrent, and given the way the ext3 fs works I can't imagine it's much different for other proggies
[08:00] <meta> guys, how many terms does the default installation open at boot? i can't even switch b/w terms (ALT+Fx) once the hang happens.
[08:00] <Khaine> I would go with redhat
[08:00] <Khaine> because you get corp support
[08:00] <xp__> redhat costs too much, what about a free distro?
[08:00] <ITSa341> I installed ndiswrapper and ndisgtk  but the card will not connect. won't even offer me a ssid to try to connect to. same card works fine in xp and another card is connected right now. ideas?
[08:00] <igaaa> hi everyone
[08:01] <Khaine> otherwise debian
[08:01] <freelove> how do i install e17/e16 in ubuntu?
[08:01] <timfrost> meta, 6 terms - X is on VT 7
[08:01] <Madpilot> Khaine: you can buy corp. support for Ubuntu from Canonical...
[08:01] <Khaine> its free, good, ubuntu is based on it
[08:01] <mihai> freelove, try ubuntu forums. in the how/to section
[08:01] <Khaine> yeah true
[08:01] <crimsun> freelove: unable universe and install enlightenment
[08:01] <Khaine> but ubuntu server is very new
[08:01] <meta> timfrost, swithc b/w terms using ALT+Fx correct?
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> ITSa341, does ndiswrapper show that yer card is connected and active?
[08:01] <Khaine> I'd rather go with something a little more tested
[08:01] <freelove> crimsun: ive installed enlightenment..but it looks so ugly! not like in screenshots!
[08:02] <ITSa341> shows it as driver installed and hardware present
[08:02] <crimsun> freelove: are you looking for e17 or something?
[08:02] <Viper12> server may be new, but its based on debian, and IBM has already certified it with DB2, so its nuthin' to sneeze at.
[08:02] <polpak> ara, sorry it should be -R
[08:02] <polpak> ara, not lower case
[08:02] <timfrost> meta, CTRL-ALT-Fn from X.  Otherwise yes
[08:02] <Kr0ntab> good...  and what type of wireless network are you trying to connect to?
[08:02] <Kr0ntab> open?  wep... WPA?
[08:02] <ITSa341> Kr0ntab GTK 802.11g pcmcia
[08:02] <meta> k, thnx guys.
[08:02] <polpak> xp__, ubuntu is perfectly viable as a server distro. You just don't want to install all the desktop stuff
[08:02] <freelove> crimsun: ya
[08:03] <Dreamglider> timfrost, thanks a bunch again,
[08:03] <Kr0ntab> ITSa341, I mean whats the Access Point configured to use.
[08:03] <Kr0ntab> WPA-PSK?  WEP?  or just open (no password)
[08:03] <ITSa341> WEP 802.11b/g   Linksys WRT54GX
[08:03] <crimsun> freelove: then search the forum like mihai said
[08:03] <ITSa341> mimo
[08:03] <LordMelkor> can i get some help with burning a cd.. i got this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111301
[08:03] <ITSa341> WEP 128bit
[08:04] <ara> polpak thanks, it worked
[08:04] <polpak> ara, no
[08:04] <polpak> ara, err no problem
[08:04] <ITSa341> Hi ara  things working out for ya?
[08:05] <vilefridge> Hello! :)  I'm having trouble restoring my Grub boot menu. I can't find the menu file in /boot/grub.  Is it possible that it's located somewhere else?
[08:05] <Kr0ntab> ITSa341, rom command line... type iwconfig... paste the output into www.pastebin.com    ... submit....  then give us the resulting URL...
[08:05] <Dreamglider> the folks who make and keep ubuntu upto date should fix the fo (Faroese) keyboard layout it does not work > http://roi.torkilsheyggi.fo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=42
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> vilefridge, Should be /boot/grub/menu.lst like you thought.
[08:05] <crimsun> Dreamglider: file a bug.
[08:06] <ara> polpak, well i have one more problem, i don't know how to automount my second hard drive, i know i have to edit the /etc/fstab but it gives me error all the time
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> vilefridge, Any other things there?
[08:06] <Dreamglider> later
[08:06] <polpak> LordMelkor, it sounds like your user doesn't have access to the device, or the CD isn't writeable
[08:06] <Dreamglider> good night
[08:06] <polpak> ara, what errors?
[08:06] <vilefridge> tonyyarusso:  It's not there :(  There's a Grub menu when I'm booting, but it points to the wrong locations..
[08:06] <ara> polpak it says line one is bad
[08:06] <quail_linux> afternoon all
[08:07] <polpak> ara can you pastebin your /etc/fstab file?
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> vilefridge, locate menu.lst
[08:07] <LordMelkor> so should i try to burn from root?
[08:07] <ara> polpak , yes , i sure will
[08:07] <polpak> LordMelkor, I wouldn't suggest it. Just ls -al  the device
[08:07] <polpak> LordMelkor, and see what the permissions are
[08:08] <LordMelkor> how do i do that
[08:08] <LordMelkor> im not familiar with that command :-/
[08:08] <polpak> LordMelkor, what is the device for your cdrom drive?
[08:08] <LordMelkor> cd-rw drive yes
[08:08] <sportmankid> thanks for all your help guys i finally got ati working
[08:08] <sportmankid> i dont know about graphics accel
[08:08] <freelove> help me! i forgot my yahoo password.....but opera wand can automatically log me in....can i retrieve my password thru some conf file in opera??
[08:08] <batman> can anyone tell me what i need to download so that java applets can run?
[08:09] <ara> polpak: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6477
[08:09] <polpak> ubotu tell batman about java
[08:09] <asterick> note to self: GParted = Bad.
[08:09] <garry> LordLucless, I see that your errors says the program has issues with any kernel of 2.5 and newer. I think you might need to use another burner app.
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> !tell batman about javadebs
[08:09] <polpak> whoops
[08:09] <polpak> ara, what was that?
[08:10] <LordMelkor> any suggestions for burner apps?
[08:10] <ara> polpak, that's my fstab
[08:10] <polpak> ara, no, I meant what was the url
[08:10] <polpak> ara, I accidentally closed Xchat
[08:10] <jbryan> hi all
[08:11] <batman> LordMelkor, i use gnomebaker
[08:11] <ara> polpak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6477
[08:11] <mihai> is here someone who use avidemux?
[08:11] <PuRo> what is the best file sharing program for ubuntu>?
[08:11] <garry> Nix that, maybe I'm wrong, it only says warning, there are issues but thats just a warning and so now I"m not sure. might try sudo k3b at terminal, see what happens.
[08:11] <jbryan> how do you use rpms in ubuntu?
[08:11] <polpak> ara, oh, easy problem
[08:11] <polpak> ara, you need to put a # at the beginning of line 1
[08:12] <polpak> ubotu tell jbryan about alien
[08:12] <mihai> PuRo, for me DC++ from Automatix because I download from lan. You could try also aMule and FrostWire
[08:12] <asterick> anyone in here familiar with ubuntu installation with DMRaid?
[08:12] <intelikey> i wish people wouldn't ask "what is the best blah"  it is so trollish....
[08:12] <mihai> jbryan, try alien
[08:12] <polpak> jbryan I should already be installed
[08:12] <polpak> jbryan, or it rather
[08:12] <mihai> jbryan, man alien, I think
[08:12] <ara> polpak , line one which starts with "proc"?
[08:12] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> Hello, I'm wondering how well ubuntu, with X, will run on a p133 80mbram laptop
[08:13] <crimsun> jbryan: always check if the program is Ubuntu's repo first.
[08:13] <polpak> ara, no, the line that starts with /etc/fstab
[08:13] <crimsun> _SD_Keo|Lappy|: very badly.
[08:13] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> thought so
[08:13] <PuRo> mihai they all produce the same amount of results per search or the statistics diffre from one another?
[08:13] <polpak> crimsun, not nessicaraly
[08:13] <ara> polpak ok let me try
[08:13] <freelove> mihai: i have it installed but dont know how to use it;)
[08:13] <polpak> crimsun, if he doesn't use gnome/kde it might work ok
[08:13] <jbryan> where's that, I just switched to ubuntu from suse, so I'm used to YAST
[08:13] <freelove> help me! i forgot my yahoo password.....but opera wand can automatically log me in....can i retrieve my password thru some conf file in opera??
[08:13] <mihai> PuRo, best use all of them. and see which is best for a specific file
[08:13] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> like fluxbox?
[08:13] <eugene_> SD what do you need from your distro?
[08:13] <crimsun> polpak: right, that's assumed with "Ubuntu" installing GNOME.
[08:14] <polpak> jbryan, system->administration->synaptic
[08:14] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> to be able to use it >.>
[08:14] <PuRo> can i get frostwire using a sudo in terminal?
[08:14] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, not very well. There was an debian mod for systems like yours
[08:14] <crimsun> _SD_Keo|Lappy|: fluxbox would work more snappily, yes
[08:14] <ara> polpak, yes, i guess it works
[08:14] <mihai> PuRo, get Automatix from ubuntuforums
[08:14] <vilefridge> tonyyarusso: found her, thanks!!
[08:14] <garry> Go to Yahoo.com and at the login, click forgot password. They will auto email you your password.
[08:14] <PuRo> sudo apt-get install frostwire? im a newbie at linux atnmosphere
[08:14] <crimsun> !automatix
[08:14] <polpak> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, you can install 'server' which is a minimal system, then run a lightweight window manager in vanilla X and you might do ok
[08:14] <ubotu> automatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[08:14] <PuRo> i have automatix
[08:15] <jbryan> alien is marked for install, now what?
[08:15] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, what's the name of this debian mod..
[08:15] <ara> polpak, thanks
[08:15] <Madpilot> jbryan: hit Install, wait a minute or three :)
[08:15] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, I'm looking now for it
[08:15] <polpak> jbryan, what rpm are you trying to install?
[08:15] <Madpilot> jbryan: Apply, actually
[08:15] <polpak> ara, sure, np
[08:15] <mihai> PuRo, get the lastest. 4.2 I think
[08:15] <eugene_> hey anyone know of any large copresssed archive of a bunch of creative commons music?
[08:16] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> I love this laptop but windows95 is running me up the wall x-x
[08:16] <garry> There should be a contest for a hall of fame for answering questions and helping and patience, half you folks would be there.
[08:16] <intelikey> !warez
[08:16] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know
[08:16] <jbryan> yeah, it took about a minute before it did anything.  I found an old Quake game for linux
[08:17] <eugene_> Sd what's bugging you about 95 specifically?
[08:17] <polpak> jbryan, I believe the free versions of quake and doom are available in the ubuntu multiverse
[08:17] <polpak> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, Did you hear my suggestion about 'server' install?
[08:17] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, http://debian.cante.net/stem/
[08:17] <garry> There is a patch to run many of the ID games, quake3 diablo 2, doom3 serious sam and others under linux.
[08:17] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, best you can find
[08:17] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> eugene_, it's becomming more and more unstable.. and there is no CD-rom drive..
[08:17] <PuRo> i did a sudo apt-get install frostwire is this correct
[08:17] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> polpak, yes I did, that would work too
[08:18] <Octane> my hdd keeps reading 5mb /second plus and i cat nfigure out whats causing it
[08:18] <Octane> its causing my system to slwodown for 20 minutes at a time
[08:18] <crimsun> eugene_: as in via the text entry field of search on http://creativecommons.org/audio/ ?
[08:18] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, also feather linux, puppy linux
[08:18] <eugene_> Ahh I see. I was going to suggest puppy linux but apprently stem is the debian equivilent
[08:18] <Octane> how can it race this debilitating problem?
[08:18] <Octane> trace*
[08:19] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, Ubuntu is very nice, but it's not suitable for such a low-end pc
[08:19] <polpak> jbryan, sudo apt-get install quake2 quake2-data
[08:19] <dle> Octane - I've been having a problem w/ gam_server grabbing all my ram, which forces the system to do a lot of swapping to and from hd.
[08:19] <JappaOlla> hi
[08:19] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, eugene_, I've tried both of them, the compact linux I like best is damnsmalllinux..
[08:19] <JappaOlla> anyone can help me about gnutella?
[08:19] <polpak> !gnutella
[08:19] <ubotu> polpak: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:19] <polpak> hrm
[08:19] <coz> hello all again
[08:19] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, have you tryed stem too?
[08:19] <NCLife> sorry for that silly question, but im really confused.. does dvdshrink only compess dvds? or can it also burn them
[08:19] <polpak> would have thought he'd known that one
[08:19] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, Oh I know, I use it on the desktop.. it's running ubuntu at the moment
[08:19] <JappaOlla> polpak: ?
[08:19] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, no..
[08:20] <polpak> JappaOlla, what's your question?
[08:20] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, that looks nice for me
[08:20] <PeteyPablo> !limewire
[08:20] <Octane> dle: i have had that problem in the past, but thats not whats causing this...
[08:20] <ubotu> I heard limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[08:20] <eugene_> Actually I'm just looking for free music I suppose.  J ust one file I can download and fill the computer with music
[08:20] <JappaOlla> polpak: it says that i'm firewalled
[08:20] <Octane> right now my hdd is going crazy at 4 to 10 megs a second writing
[08:20] <coz> NCLife I would leave dvd burning upt gnombaker or nerolinux
[08:20] <JappaOlla> or seems to be
[08:20] <polpak> JappaOlla, are you?
[08:20] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, but why don;t you get a fresh new laptop, something like a nx6110 and put ubuntu on it?
[08:20] <mmhss> how do u download whole directory via ftp ? (no x)
[08:20] <JappaOlla> polpak: don't know... how can know?
[08:20] <Octane> is there any way to see what program is causing this insanity?
[08:21] <coz> octane what insanity
[08:21] <polpak> JappaOlla, are you using a cable/dsl router?
[08:21] <JappaOlla> polpak: dsl modem
[08:21] <NCLife> coz okay, so dvdshrink is only good to compress dvds, or for something else too?
[08:21] <Octane> coz: my extremely high hdd writing
[08:21] <eugene_> "Octane	right now my hdd is going crazy at 4 to 10 megs a second writing"
[08:21] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, I would, if I had money =)
[08:21] <Octane> eugene_: thanks :)
[08:21] <eugene_> heh
[08:21] <garry> mmhss copy from the ftp window, then paste to your destination.
[08:21] <coz> oh well let me ask you something did  you install ubuntu on a hard drive that had another os on it
[08:21] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, if you need help with adsense I'm here for you ;)
[08:21] <polpak> JappaOlla, what brand, Westell?
[08:21] <JappaOlla> d-link
[08:22] <Octane> coz: me? no i have been using ubuntu for 6 months
[08:22] <coz> Yes
[08:22] <garry> oh no x. In that case I dunno, sorry Mmhss
[08:22] <mmhss> :)
[08:22] <coz> this was a clean hard drive
[08:22] <dle> Octane - Maybe lsof, and grep for /dev/hd-whatever-letter-applies
[08:22] <polpak> JappaOlla, what does it say on the front?
[08:22] <Octane> usually when my hdd is bugging out like this i cant even move my mouse
[08:22] <JappaOlla> polpak: gnutella?
[08:22] <coz> octane this was a clean harddrive
[08:22] <Octane> coz: completely
[08:22] <polpak> JappaOlla, no, your d-link "modem" (which I believe will turn out to in fact be a router)
[08:23] <Octane> coz, im not a newbie, i been using ubuntu for months
[08:23] <coz> Ok if it was new or low formatted then I have no idea without actually being there what theproblem could be
[08:23] <JappaOlla> polpak: dsl-302t
[08:23] <coz> Octane alothof people never low format their hard drives
[08:23] <coz> Sorry no offense meant
[08:23] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, would there be any way to get stem onto this laptop, without a cd-rom drive or 2.5-3.5 adapter?
[08:24] <Octane> it sall good
[08:24] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, sure. install debian with fdd and then everything thourgh the internet
[08:24] <Octane> this is so god damn frustrating though because this 8 megs a second reading (or writing) renders my system completely unusable
[08:24] <coz> Octane save what you need to low format that drive and reinstall
[08:24] <Octane> hell no
[08:24] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, but you need a desktop or something to do all this
[08:25] <intelikey> some hdd's can not be low level formated without destroying the disks    err that may be a thing of the past now though
[08:25] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, I have a desktop, it's sitting downstairs with ubuntu running...
[08:25] <coz> Octane OK I reinstall all of the time
[08:25] <garry> Octane does ps have anything strange in it?
[08:25] <crimsun> _SD_Keo|Lappy|: if you can netboot it over pxe, then that's the easiest way.
[08:25] <coz> It is what I have to do it's my job
[08:25] <Octane> garry: no i mlooking at it right now
[08:25] <garry> Octane nods.
[08:26] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, go there and find out how to install debian with the fdd
[08:26] <JappaOlla> polpak: ?
[08:26] <Octane> i have tried quitting all running programs figure it might be some app  going craszy too
[08:26] <coz> I reinstall all my os's except mac because I neer use it
[08:26] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> crimsun, I've been looking at PXE, I can't figure out how to get it on here..
[08:26] <garry> Ye know last time I had a drive act like that it was a smart drive that was going bad.
[08:26] <garry> I had also one that was bad right out the door.
[08:26] <crimsun> _SD_Keo|Lappy|: there are guides on the Web
[08:26] <intelikey> kill pid's one by one until you hit the runaway.
[08:27] <polpak> JappaOlla, looking up your specs
[08:27] <polpak> JappaOlla, can you ifconfig -a and see what your ip is?
[08:27] <intelikey> Octane ^
[08:27] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, this has no FDD either, it's dead.
[08:27] <Octane> intelikey: good ide
[08:27] <navreet> what's after breezy? and is it anywhere near stable?
[08:28] <polpak> navreet, dapper
[08:28] <JappaOlla> polpak: yes, then?
[08:28] <coz> Dapper is after breezy and NO it is not stabel yet
[08:28] <polpak> JappaOlla, tell me what it is
[08:28] <garry> I'm not sure if it's stable but there is somethign after breezy, and its reported on at www.distrowatch.com
[08:28] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, then you have a problem. don't know what to tell you to do
[08:28] <navreet> polpak, do you use dapper?
[08:28] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mihai, I could probably use loadlin.exe to boot the floppy though..
[08:28] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> er.. there's multiple isn't there..
[08:28] <coz> polpak Dapper Drake is after breezy and No it is not stable yet
[08:28] <mihai> _SD_Keo|Lappy|, don't know
[08:29] <sportmankid> has anyone here installed and configured mythtv on ubuntu
[08:29] <coz> I know I have it on the other machine
[08:29] <sportmankid> if so i have just a few questions
[08:29] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> I think  i'm going to try PXE..
[08:29] <Octane> i have a million 'smtp', 'bounce' and 'cleanup' programs running. any idea what those are
[08:29] <polpak> navreet, no. I use Breezy
[08:30] <coz> Octane not a clue
[08:30] <intelikey> hehhe well that didn't take long to decide
[08:30] <coz> intelikey INSTALL it agin dude
[08:30] <coz> keep installing until it's right
[08:30] <polpak> Octane, smtp is mail
[08:30] <intelikey> na probably not coz
[08:30] <Octane> of course
[08:30] <Octane> i knew that
[08:31] <timfrost> Octane, they are mail delivery.  opresumably Postfix. Are you conmfigured as a relay?
[08:31] <Octane> but i have a million instances of cleanup, bounce and smtp runnign by postfix
[08:31] <garry> Sing it to the tune of michal Jackson's beat it, just install it.
[08:31] <coz> I reinstall about five times a month
[08:31] <Octane> timfrost: not at all
[08:31] <polpak> Octane, netstat -an | grep LISTEN
[08:31] <intelikey> smtp=send mail to point
[08:31] <PeteyPablo> !latex
[08:31] <ubotu> PeteyPablo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:31] <polpak> Octane, is port 25 open to the outside?
[08:31] <intelikey> protical
[08:31] <PeteyPablo> !botsnack
[08:31] <ubotu> thanks peteypablo :)
[08:32] <Octane> polpak: nope
[08:32] <Octane> wait yes it is i should close it
[08:32] <Papageno> How do I set the system time from the terminal? Or how do I set my time zone?
[08:32] <polpak> intelikey, I think it actually stands for "Simple Mail Transport Protocol"
[08:32] <polpak> Octane, yes definately
[08:32] <sowdog> Anyone here know the gnome naming convention for icons? Some of my icons are the default and some are themed.
[08:32] <crimsun> Papageno: tzconfig
[08:33] <coz> papageno right click on time adjust time
[08:33] <MrPockets> andyone know why my PC beeps every now and then?
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Papageno, You're not supposed to do the system time while it's running I've heard, it gets confused.
[08:33] <vilefridge> MrPockets: thermal issues?
[08:33] <coz> it doesn't get confused
[08:33] <polpak> MrPockets, terminal bell?
[08:33] <MrPockets> 35 C
[08:33] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: hah, when else would you set it?
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> coz: My did once.
[08:34] <coz> exactly opther than when you install
[08:34] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> MrPockets, mabye it doesn't like the way you look at it?
[08:34] <timfrost> Octane, that figures - if 1 spam bot has found port 25 open, it will open lots of connections, causing \lots of propcesses:(
[08:34] <intelikey> Papageno sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org && sudo hwclock --systohc
[08:34] <MrPockets> god damnit, i get that a lot :-\
[08:34] <mmhss> nite
[08:34] <coz> well that may be the install
[08:34] <Badm4n> hi
[08:34] <Coag> !gnutella
[08:34] <ubotu> Coag: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:34] <Coag> meh
[08:34] <intelikey> MrPockets language.
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Set the hardware clock, and let the sys clock adjust on next boot.
[08:34] <richardtallent> How do I upgrade to OpenOffice 2.01 from the beta in Ubuntu 5.10? Package Manager doesn't seem to have an update available.
[08:35] <Coag> any info on how to get gtk-gnutella through apt?
[08:35] <Badm4n> what should i put on my apt/sourcelist to get update from ubuntu 6.00 ?
[08:35] <Octane> timfrost: absolutely, but it doesnt seem like that was causing th eproblem
[08:35] <coz> apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[08:35] <LordMelkor> great i justed fuked my computer over.
[08:35] <coz> LordMelkor what happened
[08:35] <LordMelkor> now i understand why people warn not to do stuff in root
[08:35] <garry> Ouch LordLucless
[08:35] <LordMelkor> i tried to use gnomebaker
[08:35] <LordMelkor> as root
[08:35] <LordMelkor> but it crashed
[08:35] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: shouldn't matter on a sane OS.
[08:36] <coz> well you're still here
[08:36] <coz> ooo why?
[08:36] <Myrtti> LordMelkor: and if you're being in the net as root, that is as bad
[08:36] <LordMelkor> and i had to use force quit
[08:36] <LordMelkor> now i cant log on normally
[08:36] <LordMelkor> not even with failsafe
[08:36] <polpak> Coag, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella ?
[08:36] <Octane> i have over 250 processes running, including over 100 'smtp' and 'bounce' and 'cleanup' processes
[08:36] <Coag> polpak: doesn't exist in the standarad repos
[08:36] <Coag> i was wondering if someone knows what repo it's in
[08:36] <freelove> how do i get the e16 panel? ive installed e16...............
[08:36] <coz> octane shut them down
[08:36] <polpak> Coag, then it's in multiverse or universe
[08:36] <PeteyPablo> Octane: i'd say something is wrong
[08:36] <polpak> Coag, cause I have it
[08:36] <Octane> coz everytime i killall them they come back
[08:36] <LordMelkor> it says "your session was less than 10 seconds"
[08:37] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> crimsun, PXE might not work, I think this is too old, 1996-97..
[08:37] <Octane> PeteyPablo: i'd agree :)
[08:37] <LordMelkor> and somthing else and then logs me off
[08:37] <crimsun> _SD_Keo|Lappy|: ouch
[08:37] <coz> Ah Oh maybe one of the few linux viruses
[08:37] <Octane> im gonna reboot, see what happens
[08:37] <coz> Good idea
[08:37] <Octane> thanks to everyone for your help, i appreciate it
[08:37] <intelikey> Octane one of two things  either your mail server is hosed or you are not spam filtering it correctly
[08:37] <freelove> how do i get the e16 panel? ive installed e16...............;(
[08:37] <PeteyPablo> *wonder if he will see octane again*
[08:37] <polpak> !find gtk-gnutella
[08:37] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: (shares files in a peer to peer network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.95.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1582 kB, Installed size: 5776 kB
[08:37] <Octane> PeteyPablo: LOL
[08:37] <PeteyPablo> :-)
[08:37] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> crimsun: Unless there's an updated BIOS from compaq..
[08:38] <freelove> there should be enubuntu......an e16 based ubuntu!
[08:38] <Badm4n> what should i put on my apt/sourcelist to get update from ubuntu 6.00 ?
[08:38] <garry> let us pray for Octanes speedy return ......
[08:38] <coz> octane will be back?
[08:38] <LordMelkor> do u think i have to reformat hd reinstall ubunutu
[08:38] <coz> !
[08:38] <ubotu> coz: Are you smoking crack?
[08:38] <LordMelkor> and^
[08:38] <Octane> rofl
[08:38] <Octane> watch im gonna be back!
[08:38] <coz> why what's up
[08:38] <mebaran151> so dapper drake is not going to use hotplug?
[08:38] <PeteyPablo> Octane! i doubt it
[08:38] <crimsun> Badm4n: are you SURE you want to run Dapper? It's not the sanest thing to do atm.
[08:38] <crimsun> mebaran151: we ripped it out already, so no.
[08:38] <polpak> LordMelkor, well it's an option certainly
[08:38] <mebaran151> crimsun, so what do you use instead
[08:38] <richardtallent> coz: thanks, but Package Manager still lists 1.9.129 as the latest versioni
[08:38] <crimsun> udev.
[08:39] <coz> no I just quit smoking altoghether two days ago
[08:39] <mebaran151> udev can do everything?
[08:39] <polpak> LordMelkor, if you have a live cd you can try to save any files you want to keep onto a different partition
[08:39] <crimsun> as of 2.6.15, yes.
[08:39] <coz> richardtallent okj
[08:39] <mebaran151> ah
[08:39] <LordMelkor> but i dont.
[08:39] <crimsun> hotplug was a mess anyhow, good riddance.
[08:39] <richardtallent> coz: soo...k
[08:39] <mebaran151> I am running Dapper to be a good betatest
[08:39] <mebaran151> er
[08:39] <freelove> plz..no one uses e16/e17 heere?
[08:39] <mebaran151> just finished my apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:40] <polpak> freelove, what are they?
[08:40] <intelikey> coz you don't call it "quit smoking" until you can say "year" in the same sentance :)
[08:40] <mebaran151> freelove, they have e17 in the repos?
[08:40] <LordMelkor> this is ghetto. cant log on anymore T_T i even restarted
[08:40] <crimsun> mebaran151: no
[08:40] <coz> OH I see well I think i will make that year
[08:40] <lampshade> freelove:  I tried to use e17 via repos the other day and it segfaulted consistently when I loaded it :-/
[08:40] <mebaran151> nuts, why not?
[08:40] <freelove> ENLIGHTENMENT!
[08:40] <mebaran151> I've always wanted to run e17, because it looks pretty.
[08:40] <lampshade> it is pretty
[08:40] <freelove> lampshade: im using e16........but how to get that nice panel at the bottom?
[08:41] <polpak> It's a bit bloated.. If I'm going minimal I prefer fluxbox
[08:41] <richardtallent> So does this mean I'm stuck with the OpenOffice beta for now? No 2.01?
[08:41] <lampshade> Oh I have no idea.  I kno the panel is default with e17 but I have no idea how or anything with e16 sorry :(
[08:41] <Badm4n> crimsun: yes i want to try dapper
[08:41] <mebaran151> if I was to make a package for it, how do you apply to have it uploaded?
[08:41] <freelove> i prefer beauty.is fluxbox beautiful?
[08:41] <polpak> richardtallent, dapper isn't that far away
[08:41] <richardtallent> I'm using XML spreadsheets and the beta sort of sucks with them.
[08:41] <lampshade> #enlightenment maybe?
[08:41] <polpak> freelove, it's pretty good looking
[08:41] <richardtallent> man dapper
[08:41] <ejofee> freelove: icewm is beautiful
[08:41] <mebaran151> polpak, xfce looks nice I think
[08:41] <intelikey> polpak minimal and GUI don't mix do they ?
[08:41] <crimsun> richardtallent: there's a great deal that has to be straightened out and backported before OO.o 2.01 hits the backports.
[08:42] <mebaran151> but then again my aesthetic ability is the equivalent of a muskrat
[08:42] <polpak> intelikey, well fluxbox is certainly more minimal than gnome
[08:42] <garry> LoL
[08:42] <intelikey> yeah
[08:42] <PeteyPablo> whats ideal for a 1ghz celeron with 512ram, ubuntu or dsl ?
[08:42] <richardtallent> Ah... didn't think there were that many dependencies in place. Bummer. What about 2.0 final? Is it ready somewhere?
[08:42] <Octane> :)
[08:42] <MachineScrew> Though I am spoiled by gnome
[08:42] <Badm4n> crimsun: what should i put on my apt/sourcelist to get update from ubuntu 6.00 ?
[08:42] <mebaran151> PeteyPablo, Ubuntu should run fine
[08:43] <mebaran151> what's the best IDE for C
[08:43] <PeteyPablo> mebaran151: it does :-P
[08:43] <richardtallent> First time using Linux in 9 years, forgive my fogginess.
[08:43] <lampshade> PeteyPablo:  depends what you are doing but that is plenty fast enough to run Ubuntu
[08:43] <polpak> freelove, fluxbox screenies
[08:43] <mebaran151> I recently got into C coding
[08:43] <polpak> freelove, http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[08:43] <lampshade> I run Ubuntu on like 533mhz boxes and it is fine
[08:43] <PeteyPablo> lampshade: whats the min requirements for ubuntu?
[08:43] <crimsun> Badm4n: ...6.00?
[08:43] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> That's sad, I can tell when something's going to crash by the hard-drive's thrash...
[08:43] <crimsun> Badm4n: do you mean TO 6.04?
[08:43] <polpak> PeteyPablo, depends on what you want to run
[08:43] <Badm4n> i mean dapper :d
[08:43] <coz> I run it on amd k7 500
[08:43] <crimsun> Badm4n: s/breezy/dapper/
[08:43] <coz> I think it's 500
[08:43] <sampan> peteypablo  i have a p3 1gighrz with 356 ram and it runs ubuntu okay -- little slow but everything is fine for daily use
[08:43] <MachineScrew> minum requirements for Ubuntu is 400MHZ with 256 mb of ram
[08:44] <mebaran151> I run it on AMD64, I'm crazier than all of you
[08:44] <richardtallent> I'm using it on a 300MHZ Pentium II with 128MB of RAM. Pretty decent so far, but apps take time to load and boot times suck.
[08:44] <PeteyPablo> sampan: is a 1ghz celeron faster, or 1ghz p3 ?
[08:44] <coz> amd 64 next step for me
[08:44] <Badm4n> i want to try dapper
[08:44] <crimsun> generally a P3
[08:44] <PeteyPablo> ah.
[08:44] <lampshade> according to the actual pressed cd's they send you it is 128mb ram
[08:44] <Badm4n> what should i put on my apt get source list
[08:44] <coz> Badman you cn download it now
[08:44] <lampshade> but no mhz listed
[08:44] <MachineScrew> though my gf uses it on a 266 mhz with 196 mb of ram using GNOME
[08:44] <mebaran151> coz, eh you probably don't need it
[08:44] <PeteyPablo> lampshade: i wouldn't want to run anything on 128mb
[08:44] <intelikey> PeteyPablo dsl is a minimalist gui linux    you only need it on "old" machines.
[08:44] <cafuego> coz: keep in mind you prolly want to run i386 code on that anyway,
[08:44] <mebaran151> only if you like to do a lot of src compile or encoding does it bring any benefits
[08:44] <sampan> peteypablo  not sure -- but you'll have more ram for sure -- so less mem thrashing
[08:44] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> mebaran151, what's the speed on that amd64?
[08:45] <intelikey> it will run on anything just about
[08:45] <coz> well I just sold my high end 64 bit
[08:45] <mebaran151> 3500+ taht I think runs 2.2 Ghz
[08:45] <coz> my nephew was angry but that's the way it goes
[08:45] <PeteyPablo> reason i ask is because i might be getting some old win98 machines soon and obviously i will not even boot into win98 ;-)
[08:45] <coz>  but hear ubuntu on 64 is great
[08:45] <coz> NO?
[08:45] <lampshade> I've run Ubuntu on like 64 mb  it was fine for browsing the web with firefox
[08:45] <_SD_Keo|Lappy|> intelikey: Not true, I've had dsl crash up this laptop before.
[08:45] <Coag> im running ubuntu 64 bit
[08:45] <richardtallent> lampshade: I can agree with that... desperately wishing my laptop had 256MB.
[08:45] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 32.7/61.1 MB (54%)
[08:45] <cafuego> coz: No. A lot of stuff doesn't work well on 64bit.
[08:45] <Coag> and i honestly can't tell a differen :P
[08:45] <coz> like what
[08:45] <freelove> how do i get this nice panel thats here http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/elive-1.jpg.html
[08:45] <mebaran151> Coag, try encoding
[08:45] <cafuego> coz: java, flash, video.
[08:45] <intelikey> that is with kde running right now PeteyPablo
[08:45] <mebaran151> you get 100 percent increase in speed
[08:45] <MachineScrew> my girlfriend uses abiword and thunderbird removed openoffice and evolution
[08:46] <PeteyPablo> this machine is a p4 3ghz /w ht and 1gig ram it runs perfectly even with vmware running at all times (xp pro)
[08:46] <allison_1984> could anyone help me how to install macromedia flash on firefox/opera  ? thanks
[08:46] <PeteyPablo> i use gnome.
[08:46] <mebaran151> video runs now
[08:46] <coz> I see thats a bummer like being bakc on BeOS
[08:46] <polpak> ubotu tell allison_1984 about flash
[08:46] <coz> well actuall y worse
[08:46] <richardtallent> Anyone have an answer on OO 2.0? Is it on the way or will I be waiting on OO 2.01?
[08:46] <PeteyPablo> MachineScrew: abiword is much better then Open Office
[08:46] <MachineScrew> allison_1984, I used automatix to get flash working
[08:46] <cafuego> coz: it's faster for encoding media, compiling, sql... stuff like that.
[08:46] <coz> automatix rules
[08:46] <polpak> !automatix
[08:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[08:46] <richardtallent> (Have a conference next week, will be dong lots of spreadsheet work.)
[08:46] <MachineScrew> PeteyPablo, in speed ya
[08:46] <Badm4n> what should i put on my apt get source list to get update my breezy to dapper
[08:46] <cafuego> coz: But honestly, most desktop users don't do much of that.
[08:46] <coz> Well I like what Ihave because most of my coents run 32 but systems
[08:47] <PeteyPablo> MachineScrew: i think it's better all around, any word processor that has a loading screen is no thanks.
[08:47] <coz> clients
[08:47] <mebaran151> Badm4n, every place you see a breezy
[08:47] <mebaran151> replace it with dapper
[08:47] <mebaran151> wish me luck guys
[08:47] <mebaran151> I'm rebooting into dapper
[08:47] <Badm4n> all rite
[08:47] <mebaran151> let's see if my network adapter works this time
[08:47] <allison_1984> Machine> well, alright...will give it a shot
[08:47] <coz> cafuego Yess as I said most of my clients only run 32 bit systems
[08:47] <mebaran151> I only have a standard forcedeth, but last time it refused to dhcp
[08:47] <MachineScrew> what security guidelines dose automatix break ?
[08:47] <polpak> allison_1984, just follow the wiki
[08:47] <coz> automatix is fine
[08:47] <polpak> !flash
[08:47] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:47] <intelikey> PeteyPablo luck ?
[08:47] <PeteyPablo> can somone tell me how to map my windows key to launch an application of my choosing ?
[08:48] <MachineScrew> ya the wiki is probly better
[08:48] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: luck with?
[08:48] <coz> there have people here who think it breaks their install but my experience is that there was hardware conflicts that were u nrecognixed intitally
[08:48] <asterick> I really wish debootstrap was more... verbose.  I can't tell if it's doing anything at all. :/
[08:48] <polpak> PeteyPablo, System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts
[08:48] <allison_1984> ok, thanks guys
[08:48] <PeteyPablo> polpak: thanks
[08:48] <intelikey> PeteyPablo nm  just noticed your post ^  PeteyPablo/#ubuntu *wishes luck*
[08:48] <MachineScrew> !FreeFormats
[08:48] <ubotu> methinks freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:48] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: oh somone was going to try dapper and told us to wish them luck
[08:48] <Badm4n> anyone : if my dapper get failed .... the only one solution reinstall ?
[08:49] <intelikey> ah
[08:49] <coz> Badm4n Yess reinstall
[08:49] <mebaran151> Badm4n, or you could fix the bugs....
[08:49] <asterick> theere we go.
[08:49] <crimsun> asterick: --verbose
[08:49] <Badm4n> :D
[08:49] <FlannelKing> Badm4n, why did it 'fail'?
[08:49] <polpak> Badm4n, report the bugs, then reinstall
[08:49] <asterick> crimsun: a little late... it's spamming my terminal now.
[08:49] <coz> it fialed because it is full of bugs
[08:49] <freelove> how do i get this nice panel thats here http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/Screenshots/_previews/elive-1.jpg.html
[08:49] <mebaran151> coz, that's not failure, that's progress
[08:49] <PeteyPablo> my windows key now launches firefox
[08:49] <PeteyPablo> :-D!
[08:49] <coz> lol yeah yeah
[08:50] <crimsun> asterick: it's lovely how it already does what we ask, eh?
[08:50] <asterick> crimsun: I just opened system monitor, and checked to see if it was downloading anything.
[08:50] <Badm4n> when it failed.. is my GRUB will still exist :D
[08:50] <asterick> crimsun: definately. :D
[08:50] <asterick> I like it when things work like I expect them to.
[08:50] <PeteyPablo> why did i wait so long to go to linux, god i hate windows now that i look back on it.
[08:50] <coz> PeteyPablo well I still have to use windows
[08:51] <polpak> PeteyPablo, welcome to our beautiful new world =)
[08:51] <PeteyPablo> coz: really why ?
[08:51] <PeteyPablo> polpak: thanks
[08:51] <coz> Clients support
[08:51] <MachineScrew> so how can I convert video xvid and h.264 and rmvb to theora
[08:51] <michael> really noob type question. I just dloaded the firefox 1.5 tarball, how do i install it?
[08:51] <coz> and potoshotp and painter
[08:51] <mebaran151> why can't gnome-vfs be as cool as kioslaves and why is KDE so ugly....
[08:51] <polpak> !firefox1.5
[08:51] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:51] <coz> michael don't have to
[08:51] <cafuego> coz: cxoffice runs fine on i386 :-)
[08:51] <mebaran151> rhetorical questions....
[08:51] <coz> cxoffice?
[08:52] <richardtallent> michael: wiki page works great. just did it myself yesterday.
[08:52] <michael> ty
[08:52] <polpak> michael, but if you don't have a good reason you may just want to stick with 1.07 until dapper
[08:52] <MachineScrew> ffmpeg2theroa
[08:53] <michael> i want the extensions for it, how long till daper?
[08:53] <PeteyPablo> polpak: i updated. to ff 1.5 it works perfectly for me but i hear alot of people have problems
[08:53] <intelikey> michael 6 04
[08:53] <richardtallent> All: what's involved in upgrading to dapper? If it has FF1.5 and OO 2.0 final I'm interested in upgrading now if it's decently stable.
[08:53] <polpak> michael, dapper is due to be released in april
[08:53] <Badm4n> 564 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 220 not upgraded.
[08:53] <Badm4n>  <-- lolz.... is this the correct ammount
[08:54] <michael> sorry I'm such a noob to linux
[08:54] <intelikey> or  04 ** 2006  if you like
[08:54] <coz> yess crossover office runs fine but NOT with photoshop
[08:54] <intelikey> foto shop   heh
[08:54] <asterick> Wee... This is all sorts of fun.
[08:55] <coz> Love photoshop
[08:55] <polpak> <3 GIMP
[08:55] <cafuego> coz: Hmmm, yes it does.
[08:55] <PeteyPablo> whats the best linux torrent client?
[08:55] <coz> NO IT DOESN"T dude
[08:55] <cafuego> coz: Yes, it REALLY does.
[08:55] <MachineScrew> Azureus
[08:55] <asterick> Petey: really depends on what you want.
[08:55] <coz> Plus I use adobe creative suite cannot run with crossover office
[08:55] <PeteyPablo> azureus works but, the main area is all screwed up the text folds into each iother
[08:55] <asterick> Petety: Azureus is great if you're really ADD and like lots of charts and graphs.  Otherwise, standard works fine.
[08:55] <polpak> PeteyPablo, I believe one comes with ubuntu, but most ppl I know of prefer bittornado (sp?)
[08:56] <PeteyPablo> asterick: i do have ADD, not even add but ADHD
[08:56] <garry> Hmmm, I don't see Octane back yet. executing res uname=Octane Now.
[08:56] <cafuego> coz: Maybe I'm just imagining that i can run it, then.
[08:56] <PeteyPablo> polpak: yea.
[08:56] <asterick> Petey: you'll love azureus than.
[08:56] <Octane> garry: im here :)
[08:56] <PeteyPablo> asterick: i'm using it now, and i used it on windows but the font is all screwed up
[08:56] <coz> cafuego I use the newest version of photoshop and a wacom tablet
[08:56] <garry> Octane ye so quiet or I"m so blind. hehe
[08:56] <coz> wacom tablets cannot be used under crossover
[08:56] <cafuego> coz: I never claimed CS3 worked. My Phsop 7 works just dandy.
[08:56] <garry> say Octane did ye reboot and did it help?
[08:56] <Octane> garry: just enjoying my relatively calm hard drive :)
[08:56] <coz> yes if you use a mouse
[08:57] <asterick> Petey: Welcome to the wonderful world of java cross-platform 'run-yourself-insane-anywhere' abilities.
[08:57] <PeteyPablo> Octane: :-)
[08:57] <PeteyPablo> asterick: lol
[08:57] <Octane> ya, i wanna say postfix service was causing the problem, but i dont know
[08:57] <cafuego> coz: Yes, i threw my wacom table in the trash.
[08:57] <cafuego> +t
[08:57] <mrtanooki> wtf cafuego
[08:57] <MachineScrew> i have add but i uses it because its GTK2 complient and has more control than the standard
[08:57] <MachineScrew> I can't change the ports on gnome torrent
[08:57] <garry> welcome back.
[08:57] <cafuego> piec eof poo
[08:57] <Octane> thank ya!
[08:57] <coz> well only use wacom tablet I ama doof with a mouse
[08:57] <asterick> I miss my wacom tablet. :(
[08:57] <FlannelKing> coz, does the tablet not work at all? or does it just work in 'mouse mode'
[08:57] <polpak> coz the problem isn't photoshop under CXO the problem is drivers for the wacom
[08:57] <cafuego> coz: Mind you, if you set X up with the tablet, it should work fine in cxoffice too.
[08:58] <MachineScrew> !EasyUbuntu
[08:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[08:58] <coz> OK OK one at a time
[08:58] <asterick> Ung, it's 2am, I need to go to sleep. >_>
[08:58] <coz> well no wacom tablet is real screwy under crossoever and it doens't work with corssover
[08:58] <coz> I have enough trouble with it under gimp
[08:58] <intelikey> Octane my hdd spins down because of apm  and if it should happen to start up without my having issued a command.  i know there is an intruder knocking on my box  :)
[08:58] <garry> sleep ... precioussss?? what'sssss ssssleeep??
[08:59] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: knocking on yoru box :-P
[08:59] <Octane> intelikey: unfortunately because of these unknowns im very motivates to go back to windows after my 6 month haitus
[08:59] <[nige] > ;/clear
[08:59] <mebaran151> other than having to manually run ifconfig to set up my network adapter
[08:59] <mebaran151> everything works
[08:59] <[nige] > sorry bout that
[08:59] <polpak> Octane, windows isn't any better
[08:59] <richardtallent> So there's no dapper alpha CD yet?
[08:59] <mebaran151> how do I make it automagically dhcp on boot
[08:59] <Octane> polpak: ya but at least things like my treo and ipod will work much more flawlessly
[08:59] <polpak> Octane, if you have a tendancy to "accidentally" open ports you might want to install firestarter
[08:59] <coz> octane windows is fine if you need it
[08:59] <garry> maybe time to install some sort of security stuff.
[08:59] <Octane> polpak: i run guarddog
[08:59] <_nano_> How do I remove CUPS and HP imaging process from the bootup?
[08:59] <intelikey> PeteyPablo yeah  as in trying to access remotely
[09:00] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: i figured :-)
[09:00] <coz> garry if you are running thorugh a router no need for security features
[09:00] <garry> coz, yep, I'm running through one myself.
[09:00] <coz> lke alinsys rougter alrady is running linux for secruity
[09:00] <polpak> _nano_, all your startup stuff is in /etc/init.d/rc5.d/
[09:00] <coz> then it is already runnin a linux for security
[09:00] <asterick> "255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 80092 cylinders"  That's so pretty. :D
[09:00] <Badm4n> damn.... i forgot about step by step to have my own rc.local :(( any one can give me the url ?
[09:00] <mebaran151> where is dhcp now
[09:00] <_nano_> polpak, thanks
[09:01] <intelikey> _nano_ remove the symlink in /etc/rc2.d/  that starts cups
[09:01] <coz> All the security settings will be in ther router lettings
[09:01] <PeteyPablo> coz: ?
[09:01] <_nano_> ok what's rc5.d and rc2.d lol
[09:01] <mebaran151> where is eth0 setup in the system
[09:01] <intelikey> polpak runlevel 2
[09:01] <polpak> intelikey, I don't think he's booting into runlevel 2 by default
[09:01] <PeteyPablo> coz: are you sayign linksys routers use linksys ?
[09:01] <mebaran151> for dapper
[09:01] <coz> routers ususally ryn a linux as their os
[09:01] <PeteyPablo> coz: linux*
[09:01] <PeteyPablo> they do?
[09:01] <intelikey> polpak 2 is default
[09:01] <PeteyPablo> must be one hell of a Damn smalllinux
[09:01] <coz> lynsys routers use a linux yes
[09:01] <polpak> intelikey, unless ubuntu is very different than what I'm used to.. (which apparently it is ;p)
[09:02] <coz> it is linux that is running the router
[09:02] <PeteyPablo> i use a d-link switch i don't think it has an os
[09:02] <coz> a switch no a router yes
[09:02] <PeteyPablo> since their are no settings or firewall
[09:02] <Jared> i hate DAMNSMALLLINUX
[09:02] <polpak> intelikey, is right.
[09:02] <PeteyPablo> Jared: why
[09:02] <garry> yep, its DTL
[09:02] <Jared> it is terrible...
[09:02] <garry> damn tiny linux
[09:02] <coz> linksys routes are accessed though the borwser with you rother address
[09:03] <coz>  there are may settings in there
[09:03] <PeteyPablo> coz: yea i know
[09:03] <coz> OK sorry just call me doof
[09:03] <intelikey> in fact i might well be the only one in here that is not in runlevel 2  :)
[09:03] <coz> maybe?!
[09:03] <Jared> .........hm.....i can't get my external harddrive to be a slave drive in my bios..hm...........anyone have any ideas
[09:03] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: whats run level 2?
[09:03] <polpak> Jared, why is it nessicary?
[09:04] <Jared> so i can boot linux from it
[09:04] <Jared> i mean windows
[09:04] <PeteyPablo> damn small linux, 50 megabytes of penguin power!
[09:04] <garry> Jared, My external firewire hard drive is seen as if it were usb, I expect the sme if that is a usb external drive.
[09:04] <polpak> Jared, using GRUB?
[09:04] <garry> sdX#
[09:04] <coz> I ws running austrumi also 50 megabytes
[09:04] <Jared> yes   grub
[09:04] <_nano_> polpak, i don't see any rc5.d in /etc/init.d/
[09:05] <polpak> _nano_, intelikey had the correct path
[09:05] <_nano_> polpak, ok
[09:05] <Jared> wait polpak     do you mean on the harddrive
[09:05] <polpak> _nano_, ubuntu only has 2 runlevels
[09:05] <garry> the rest are walklevels
[09:05] <mebaran151> where does dapper configure eth0 and dhcp
[09:05] <coz> do any of them trot?
[09:05] <mebaran151> I have a lot references to the nowdead hotplug
[09:06] <garry> hehe, Coz
[09:06] <Jared> brb
[09:06] <mebaran151> but I don't like having to manually dhclient it
[09:06] <Jared> back
[09:06] <coz> sorry I quit smoking I am up and running maybe not funny but there it is
[09:06] <polpak> mebaran151, easiest place to configure it is system->administration->network
[09:06] <Jared> who in here hates belkin?MEEEE
[09:06] <mebaran151> polpak, the problem is that I think it wants to be started by hotplug
[09:06] <coz> I HATE BELKIN
[09:06] <mebaran151> I have to manually ifconfig it
[09:07] <coz> for good reason
[09:07] <coz> their pro line is mid range consumer
[09:07] <coz> with high end prices
[09:07] <polpak> mebaran151, you can manually config it via networking afaik and/or disable it depending on what you're trying to do
[09:07] <mebaran151> polpak
[09:07] <Jared> belkin has the worst customer support.......AND IT SUCK WITH PORT FOWARDING
[09:07] <mebaran151> everytime I boot I have to do this
[09:07] <coz> Jared it is a sucky company
[09:07] <mebaran151> ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0
[09:07] <intelikey> PeteyPablo the default runlevel in ubuntu linux     the runlevels define the way the system works using /etc/init.d/<scripts>   runlevel 1 is single user mode   in ubuntu 2-5 are by default all alike    6 is reboot 0 is power off  and S is startup.  if you customize a runlevel then use  'sudo init # '  where # is the particular runlevel it will read in your special configuration scripts.   the default runlevel is set in /et
[09:07] <mebaran151> otherwise eth0 fails to appear
[09:07] <Badm4n> damn.... i forgot about step by step to have my own rc.local :(( any one can give me the url ?
[09:07] <Jared> ....i can't get it to foward my apache webserver
[09:07] <Jared> at all
[09:08] <polpak> mebaran151, did you go into system->administration->network ?
[09:08] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: i see, thanks
[09:08] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:08] <mebaran151> it works now
[09:08] <mebaran151> but each time I boot, I have to do that
[09:08] <mebaran151> it must be somewhere in the start up scripts
[09:08] <garry> Belkin the microsoft bob of hardware.
[09:08] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: in your opinion what is the best server OS, FreeBSD ?
[09:08] <coz> woah I like mocrsoft bob I have several copies
[09:08] <sportmankid> FreeBSD
[09:08] <polpak> mebaran151, it is, but the startup scripts are controlled by that menu
[09:08] <garry> oops my bad
[09:08] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:08] <mebaran151> ok it's set
[09:08] <mebaran151> I'm now going to rebbot
[09:09] <intelikey> PeteyPablo i must defer that question to those that know.  i am network illiterate.
[09:09] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: ok
[09:09] <Jared> coz.......have you a belkin router?:(
[09:09] <coz> i am gald to see evreyones tiyng is as good as mnie
[09:09] <sowdog> bye folks
[09:09] <PeteyPablo> wow dsl is built off debian also
[09:09] <PeteyPablo> i didn't know that.
[09:09] <coz> Jared no linksys
[09:10] <Jared> belkin REFUSES to port foward through 80
[09:10] <SillyZ> morning, quick q: how do I remove the ntp sync attempt from the boot startup ?
[09:10] <polpak> PeteyPablo, I've used FreeBSD and linux for enterprise level servers.. I prefer Linux
[09:10] <coz> jared save up the few extra bucks and get a linksys
[09:10] <PeteyPablo> polpak: really? i have a shell account to a high speed FreeBSD server it seems to be very godo
[09:10] <coz> the company has been bought by 3com the best of all of them
[09:10] <coz> it is a good router
[09:10] <Jared> what do you think about netgear
[09:10] <Jared> ?
[09:10] <coz> netgear second class
[09:10] <Jared> well i would" return this belkin i have butttt..........it is too old
[09:10] <dorto> linksys first class :)
[09:11] <Dashiva> i've never had netgear problems
[09:11] <coz> lynksys is the way to go for an economic but pretty high end router
[09:11] <PeteyPablo> D-link is the best ;-P
[09:11] <polpak> PeteyPablo, it's pretty good.. But stuff you'd normally take for granted (SMP kernels etc) have to be specially configured etc
[09:11] <Dashiva> but i've had a crapload of linksys problems
[09:11] <coz> D-Link??
[09:11] <PeteyPablo> polpak: i see
[09:11] <Jared> coz do you have apache through linksys?
[09:11] <MachineScrew> I have a belkin the Linksys I had had way to many problems
[09:11] <coz> No I don't yet I haen't installed that because My clinets don't use it sao idon't need to support it YET
[09:11] <MachineScrew> made my cable connecton like a 28.8bps modem
[09:11] <PeteyPablo> polpak: do you know about that load balancer thing that is available? i want to run freebsd on some older pcs with that program so it will be somewhat fast ;-P
[09:11] <Jared> okay...i wanted a report
[09:12] <coz> soory guy
[09:12] <Jared> how bout anything else
[09:12] <Jared> for servers?
[09:12] <coz> damn fingers I was going to make a new years resolution to type better but I decided to qwit smoking
[09:12] <garry> I know what the best router for me is. The one that works and keeps the hackers out.
[09:12] <Jared> or just port fowarding in general and is it good for customization
[09:12] <SillyZ> Q: how do I remove the ntp sync attempt from the startup of ubuntu ?
[09:12] <coz> garry there you go
[09:13] <polpak> PeteyPablo, you mean clustering? The only load balancing I have any experience with is ServerIrons.. And those are not really what you'd be looking for (about 100k USD)
[09:13] <Jared> i am a good typer for an eleven year old....yes i am the youngest ubuntu user in the chat
[09:13] <coz> Jsred how old
[09:13] <PeteyPablo> polpak: it's some open source thing
[09:13] <Jared> i am eleven
[09:13] <coz> No way dude?
[09:13] <Jared> i swear
[09:13] <coz> what time is it where you live
[09:13] <PeteyPablo> polpak: http://plb.sunsite.dk/
[09:13] <Jared> i will prove...pm me your email and i will send u a pic...it is 2:13 am
[09:14] <intelikey> coz remember this is   IRC  where men are men,   and women are men,  and children are FBI agents.....
[09:14] <polpak> ..... #ubuntu-offtopic pls
[09:14] <coz> don't you have school tomorrow????
[09:14] <coz> lol lol
[09:14] <coz> lol
[09:14] <garry> LoL
[09:14] <coz> My nephew says that all the time
[09:14] <PeteyPablo> i'm 17
[09:14] <PeteyPablo> and i'm off
[09:14] <Jared> no i am out...i go back wednesday
[09:14] <PeteyPablo> ;-P
[09:14] <cafuego> or #teendating
[09:14] <coz> I am 54
[09:14] <PeteyPablo> or #gayteen
[09:14] <PeteyPablo> lOL
[09:14] <mebaran151> tiny pet peeve, but in dapper, my clock isn't being sync'ed
[09:15] <runge> hi. how do you get back a configure screen that you get installing a package? (pam-ldap asks for ipadres etc, I want to redo that part)
[09:15] <coz> mebaran151 thats because dapper has many many bugs right now
[09:15] <Jared> coz...you aer 54....seriouslly
[09:15] <coz> Jared 54
[09:15] <mebaran151> coz, yeah, I know
[09:15] <ajmitch> Jared, coz: just drop it :P
[09:15] <mebaran151> but this is a really minor bug
[09:15] <coz> Yes lets dropit
[09:15] <mebaran151> all the time I ran ArchLinux, I could never get ntp to work
[09:15] <Jared> ....drop what.....:)
[09:15] <intelikey>  PeteyPablo/#ubuntu *wishes luck*
[09:16] <intelikey> oops wrong buffer
[09:16] <coz> age doesn't matter with computers that is one of the many beuties
[09:16] <PeteyPablo> intelikey: hahah!
[09:16] <coz> beauties
[09:16] <garry> I remember telling someone how I had avoided car accidents by not looking at the accident. I said every time I saw an accident, another was about to happen about fifty feet away. He said ye mean stupidity comes in pairs like president and vice presidents?
[09:16] <coz> ubuntu-jokers
[09:16] <Jared> true.........
[09:17] <SillyZ> nm, found it
[09:17] <Jared> i love computer....i am more software than hardware
[09:17] <coz> no age limit, ethinic limit, no linits of any kind that i can see
[09:17] <wizardjames> for phpmyadmin,   what are some things i should do to make it so that just not anyone can view the login page..    like, have a login page to get to the login page?..
[09:17] <Jared> i have a technician class ham radio liscense
[09:17] <vilefridge> Hello :)  If I mount a drive and apply changes to a file, if I reboot, should these changes stay intact?  (I did this and they dissapeared..?)
[09:17] <SillyZ> Jared: your a tech, ... general here
[09:17] <Jared> really whats the qth dude
[09:17] <coz> vilefridge yes if you unmounted the drive first
[09:17] <intelikey> now mebaran151 i put this in a script and run it when i want to sync my clock.  you could run it as a cron job.  ntpdate pool.ntp.org && hwclock --systohc       and sudo those if you run it as user
[09:17] <SillyZ> en10qu :)
[09:17] <SillyZ> lincoln, ne
[09:18] <garry> extra here. Extra means all my brain cells were fried. :)
[09:18] <Jared> ne?
[09:18] <vilefridge> coz: unmounted.. nope didn't do that :P
[09:18] <SillyZ> nebraska, usa
[09:18] <coz> well that can happen in ubuntu
[09:18] <Jared> kewl.....you have echolink?
[09:18] <Jared> i am working for my general
[09:18] <coz> unmount first give it a few seconds then rebott better 30 seconds
[09:18] <SillyZ> aye we have a node here
[09:18] <garry> sudo unmount brain.self ... Error object not found!
[09:19] <Jared> i will meet you on echolink when my uncle gets off the windows machine.....KEWL?
[09:19] <garry> er umount
[09:19] <SillyZ> I dont have a 2m rig in the house, its in the car, so cant access it
[09:19] <Jared> that general test is a killer for me......gah i have had problems with the frequencies and bands......ugh
[09:19] <mebaran151> and also
[09:19] <mebaran151> anjuta doesn't want to start up anymore
[09:19] <SillyZ> go pmsg if ya would jared
[09:19] <michael> damn, updating firfoxnot a quick task :)
[09:20] <michael> good practice for a noob though
[09:20] <michael> gnight all
[09:20] <garry> gnight
[09:20] <Jared> silly i am in pm......u there?
[09:20] <coz> michael good night guy
[09:20] <coz> happy new year
[09:21] <Jared> SillyZ are you in pmsg
[09:21] <SillyZ> jared: Join #sillyz
[09:21] <Jared> ah...
[09:21] <coz> Before I forget HAPPY NEW YEAR To all of you . Hope it brings what you need
[09:21] <vilefridge> coz: Ok, I figured out what was going on.  The changes were infact saved without unmounting, however there's two files menu.lst and menu.lst~  What does the ~ indicate?  Should I be editing both?
[09:21] <mebaran151> ok it's a duplicated bug
[09:22] <polpak> vilefridge, the ~ one is probably a backup or an autosave
[09:22] <coz> vilefridge Good question I am not sure can someone here help this guy
[09:22] <coz> there you go
[09:22] <polpak> vilefridge, you don't need it
[09:22] <vilefridge> coz, polpak: alright, i'll delete the ~ copy =) Thanks!
[09:22] <coz> shouldn't have to edit anything when you savbe to drive
[09:23] <coz> save
[09:23] <salutis> hello all
[09:23] <coz> sorry for my fingers
[09:23] <coz> happy new year shining
[09:24] <coz> happy new year salutis
[09:24] <kyo> hi...
[09:24] <coz> happy new year kyo
[09:24] <salutis> coz, thanks for you too :)
[09:24] <mebaran151> if I compile anjuta by hand, how do I make sure dpkg doesn't make it die the next time I upgrade
[09:24] <salutis> happy new year for all
[09:24] <timfrost> vilefridge, polpak, confirm some editors use '~' as suffix for their backup files
[09:25] <garry> isn't there a blacklist for dpkg?
[09:25] <coz> i was reading an article or two about the pros and cons between rpm and .deb but I cannot remember the author
[09:26] <coz> has onayone here read any of these articles?
[09:26] <kyo> moshi moshi.
[09:26] <kyo> yes
[09:26] <vilefridge> timfrost: thanks for the info =)
[09:27] <coz> has anyone here tried gruler or gnome colorscheme
[09:28] <kyo> hi, I'm here..............
[09:28] <coz> Hi kyo happy new year
[09:28] <timfrost> mebaran151, If you package your version, it is possible to pin it.  But that means that related packages may not be correctly updated
[09:29] <kyo> happy new year too. how are you?
[09:29] <mebaran151> timfrost, that's what I thought
[09:29] <coz> I am well kyo and yourself?
[09:29] <mebaran151> I'll just have to convince the dev's to upload the new bugfixed one
[09:29] <salutis> rm -f 2005; touch 2006 :)
[09:30] <SillyZ> tail -f 2005 :)
[09:30] <coz> kyo are you runningubuntu?
[09:30] <coz> running ubuntu
[09:30] <kyo> l'm pretty well. where are you now? l'm in lndonesia. And you?
[09:30] <macximian> any one care to help a mac user with ubuntu and local network filesharing
[09:30] <coz> I am in the US
[09:31] <macximian> I can't see my ubuntu machine on the network
[09:31] <PeteyPablo> how do i save a scan in XSANE ?
[09:31] <coz> macximian I am ther wrong person to ask about this I don't use mac anymore
[09:31] <macximian> how di change the workgroup on my ubuntu machine to match what is on my mac
[09:32] <coz> BUT someone hwere should be able to help
[09:32] <coz> if not go to ubuntuforums channel
[09:32] <macximian> thx coz
[09:32] <mebaran151> ok dapper isn't as unstable as you guys said it would be
[09:32] <mebaran151> so far it's a good beta
[09:32] <coz> happy new year maczimian
[09:32] <coz> macximian
[09:32] <mebaran151> I'm just going to pray no dev decides to rewrite Xorg in basic or something
[09:33] <macximian> thanksk coz you too
[09:33] <coz> sorry my fnigres don't wrok rgiht
[09:34] <kyo> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. any body home............
[09:34] <mebaran151> why does mplayer always complain that that /dev/rtc is not setup right?
[09:34] <mebaran151> is it a big deal?
[09:34] <TranceRiver|away> Will http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315041 work well with ubuntu?
[09:35] <coz> Did you konw that if you keep the frist and lsat letetrs of ecah wrod in it plcae, that the snetnec can sitll be raed esaily?
[09:35] <garry> because the dev/rtc is now converted to basic in dapper.
[09:35] <mebaran151> haha
[09:36] <kyo> hihi
[09:36] <coz> Well good people, I am going to be hope the new year brings us all what we need most HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!
[09:36] <PeteyPablo> damn xsane is cool
[09:36] <timfrost> coz, same to you
[09:36] <coz> I am going to bed I wish i could type as well as i sleep
[09:36] <coz> Night all
[09:36] <macximian> nite
[09:38] <kyo> ihiohisoijoiajs
[09:38] <kyo> yupyupyup
[09:39] <ajmitch> kyo: stop it please
[09:39] <garry> kill -9 it
[09:39] <kyo> oh, l'm really sorry
[09:40] <macximian> annnyybooody eeelse  here kkkknnow  abouut localll nettwork fillle         shariiiing
[09:40] <Sturgeon> yyyyeeesssss
[09:40] <Coag> lllllloooolllllll
[09:40] <SillyZ> rofl
[09:40] <Coag> might want to fix your keyboard macximian
[09:41] <kyo> ku tak bisa jauh-jauh darimu.
[09:41] <macximian> anddd misssss   all   thhhe joookes? lol
[09:41] <kyo> anata wa donata desu ka.
[09:42] <macximian> kkkeeeyboard onnnllly   doees thiiis wwwhhen i  am   siing desktttoop sharinng
[09:43] <garry> try kbdrate -r 10 -d 1000
[09:43] <rjordan> macximian, It's called lag http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag
[09:43] <macximian> i turned off keyboard repeating. don't need it anyways
[09:43] <garry> hmmm.
[09:44] <numberandom> I just installed breezy on a system and have been unable to get in on my home network, ive tried dhcp and manually setting up the address, and even another network card --any ideas?
[09:45] <macximian> ok now that my typing is actually readable. Anybody care to help me with my network problems.
[09:45] <jonny2d> hi anyone know a good alternative for colorzilla (for firefox), for ubuntu?
[09:45] <macximian> I am unable to get NFS to work. Get the error message that it can't read the NFS configuration file
[09:45] <rjordan> macximian, What kind of trouble?
[09:45] <Seveas> macximian, then create it :)
[09:45] <rjordan> oh
[09:45] <Seveas> macximian, it's called /etc/exports
[09:45] <macximian> and how do i do that
[09:46] <Seveas> sudo nano /etc/exports
[09:46] <Seveas> and in another terminal: man exports
[09:48] <kyo> pernah berpikir tuk pergi dan terlintas tinggalkan kau sendiri. sempat ingin sudahi sampai di sini coba lari dari kenyataan tapi,
[09:48] <bakpao> test
[09:48] <jonny2d> can anyone suggest a color picker program?
[09:49] <macximian> doesn't really help much :/
[09:49] <cafuego> !id
[09:49] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[09:50] <PeteyPablo> me llamo pedro
[09:50] <PeteyPablo> ;-)
[09:50] <Kr0ntab> vote for Pedro
[09:50] <cafuego> Ja, da's fijn voor je
[09:50] <bakpao> macximian : http://nfs.sourceforge.net/
[09:51] <cafuego> Hmmm
[09:52] <Coag> The Gibson that get's h4ck3d?
[09:52] <cafuego> The very same
[09:52] <bakpao> !de
[09:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:52] <Coag> i can honestly say I've never see this gibson
[09:53] <igaaa> Hi, does anyone know where I can find beep media player's skins ?
[09:54] <mejde> Has anyone had any troule with copying files from client to server via NFS taking 100% of the clients cpu and getting very low transfer rates? (server->client is fast and doesn't take much cpu)
[09:54] <Coag> 1google
[09:54] <Coag> !google
[09:54] <ubotu> somebody said google was a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[09:54] <Coag> err
[09:54] <kyo> juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttttttttttttttttttttttt
[09:54] <Benjamin_L> any chance we'll see php 5.11 and apache 2.2 in dapper ?
[09:55] <Coag> !tell igaaa about google
[09:55] <hunika> Somebody can help to me
[09:55] <bakpao> !help
[09:55] <henry> what help is needed
[09:55] <cafuego> Coag: http://www.cafuego.net/i/Gibson.jpg
[09:56] <hunika> I use Kubuntu, but I downloaded Gnoppix for a test
[09:56] <hunika> How can I access my drives in Goppix?
[09:56] <hunika> Gnoppix?
[09:56] <igaaa> ok ! ;)
[09:56] <mrtanooki> ko catra do se krino do na cpacu le djica
[09:56] <hunika> is it posibble?
[09:56] <deFrysk> hunika, /j #gnopppix ?
[09:56] <hunika> ok
[09:56] <Coag> cafuego: very nice
[09:56] <numberandom> anyone have any idea why my new install wont snag a DHCP lease? the ethernet cable is plugged in and the DHCP server is definitely working.
[09:57] <deFrysk> numberandom, dapper-drake ?
[09:57] <edwardsm> hello, i was hoping someone could help me connect my external usb hard drive to ubuntu
[09:57] <macximian> how do i change the "workgroup name"
[09:57] <henry> anyone using ATI all in wonder vid card with ubuntu?
[09:57] <numberandom> nope, breezy
[09:58] <PeteyPablo> anyone know how to view offline buddies in gaim?
[09:58] <hunika> How can I access / mount my hard drive in Gnoppix.
[09:58] <deFrysk> hunika, ask in some gnoppix forum or whatever
[09:59] <deFrysk> hunika, this is ubuntu
[09:59] <lampshade> PeteyPablo:  there is a menu for it
[09:59] <lampshade> like under Buddie
[09:59] <lampshade> s
[09:59] <PeteyPablo> lampshade: i found it thanks
[09:59] <hunika> deFrysk: than say to me how do I do that in Gnome
[09:59] <bakpao> numberrandom : look at /etc/network/interfaces
[09:59] <bakpao> numberrandom : is it "iface eth0 inet static" ?
[09:59] <deFrysk> hunika, ask in #gnome
[09:59] <numberandom> "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[09:59] <hunika> deFrysk: why can not you just simply tell to me if you know
[10:00] <edwardsm> where do i begin troubleshooting the inability to access an external hard drive?
[10:00] <deFrysk> hunika, with a gnoppix question you are off topic here
[10:00] <salutis> how i install samba to 5.10?
[10:00] <eric_> someone told me about a program that will automatically clean out temp files, but I can't remember what the name was, does anyone know what the name is
[10:01] <hunika> deFrysk: Gnoppix is based on UBUNTU and does not have a channel. anyway how do I mount devices in GNOME- in system or where?
[10:01] <deFrysk> hunika, not with a gnoppix-cd
[10:01] <thoreauputic> hunika: try "Computer" in nautilus
[10:01] <numberandom> "ifdown -a" , then "ifup -a" gives me the output of DHCPDISCOVER, which cant find any leases
[10:02] <rjordan> numberandom, Then you want to make sure that ifconfig eth0 shows that your link is active and also that other systems on your network can pull a new dhcp lease.
[10:03] <edwardsm> /
[10:03] <macximian> anyone know where to change the "workgroup" name
[10:03] <rjordan> in your smb.conf
[10:03] <edwardsm> rjonmastes,
[10:03] <macximian> thanks.. where is that located?
[10:03] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: he was right - gnoppix is based on Ubuntu - I missed the beginning ofthe conversation: why were you so definite that he was off topic?
[10:04] <numberandom> i am definitely able to pull leases with other computers, and ifconfig eth0 tells me "Link encap:Ethernet" so its plugged in
[10:04] <numberandom> I'll try a live cd, to see if somehow my install was botched
[10:04] <rjordan> in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:04] <numberandom> thats all I can think of
[10:05] <macximian> thanks
[10:05] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, i was not aware of the fact gnoppix was ubuntu-based
[10:05] <rjordan> numberandom, what do you have for media state in ifconfig eth0?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: hmm - well he's gone to #kubuntu now
[10:06] <DAan> does someone know why my mastervolume in ubuntu doesn't change my pcm volume?
[10:07] <numberandom> im trying the live cd real quick...
[10:07] <rjordan> DAan, turning down master will turn down pcm but turning down pcm will not turn down others like line-out...
[10:08] <DAan> yes
[10:08] <DAan> but master doesn't turn down pcm
[10:08] <DAan> nothing happens
[10:08] <rjordan> BS
[10:09] <vilefridge> Hello :)  I just created a software RAID 1 configuration with (2) 80GB SATA drives.  I'm trying to configure the GRUB boot loader menu, but I'm not sure which (hd#,#) my RAID is.  Is there some way to view the partitions?
[10:10] <Coag> dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[10:10] <Coag> :/
[10:10] <salutis> i cou'd install bind in 5.10, why?
[10:10] <salutis> However the following packages replace it:
[10:10] <salutis>   dnsutils
[10:10] <salutis> E: Package bind has no installation candidate
[10:11] <Irvine> how to install licq?
[10:11] <thoreauputic> salutis: so install dnsutils
[10:11] <edwardsm> #can anyone see me typing?
[10:11] <DAan> yes
[10:11] <macximian> ok i have the file open (smb.conf) but don't see where it specifies the name of the "workgroup"
[10:11] <vilefridge> edwardsm: yes
[10:11] <edwardsm> sweet
[10:11] <salutis> i have installed dnsutils, but /etc/bind not exist :(
[10:12] <napstar567> hey macximian
[10:12] <edwardsm> anyone have any idea where i should  begin troubleshooting the inability to access an external hard drive?
[10:12] <macximian> yup napstar567
[10:13] <napstar567> u still having problems with samba
[10:13] <napstar567> ?
[10:13] <macximian> yeah
[10:13] <napstar567> go to system
[10:13] <thoreauputic> salutis: I haven't used bind - perhaps you have to create /etc/bind ( I don't know)
[10:13] <macximian> i have smb.conf open but don't see where to specify the "workgroup" name
[10:13] <salutis> but bind is not installed :(
[10:13] <napstar567> >administrator>shared folders
[10:13] <thoreauputic> salutis: man bind  is a start I guess
[10:13] <Xer0_h4x> OMG
[10:14] <Xer0_h4x> hello everyone...
[10:14] <Xer0_h4x> :)
[10:14] <salutis> No manual entry for bind
[10:14] <edwardsm> it shows up in system > administration > disks
[10:14] <thoreauputic> salutis: hmm
[10:14] <Xer0_h4x> fine...
[10:14] <macximian> hmmm i dont seem to have that
[10:15] <Xer0_h4x> the hello there package?
[10:15] <napstar567> awhh
[10:15] <Xer0_h4x> no one els has it dont worry
[10:15] <napstar567> !!
[10:15] <ubotu> ??
[10:15] <thoreauputic> salutis:  if you type    dpkg -L dnsutils   you should see what files it installed
[10:15] <napstar567> hey what version r u running
[10:15] <napstar567> ?
[10:15] <macximian> breezy
[10:15] <edwardsm> though the "access path" currently reads 'none'
[10:15] <salutis> /usr/bin
[10:15] <salutis> /usr/bin/dig
[10:15] <salutis> /usr/bin/nslookup
[10:15] <salutis> /usr/bin/nsupdate
[10:15] <salutis> and documentation
[10:16] <mejde> anyone using nfs at all? :)
[10:16] <thoreauputic> salutis: do *not* paste here !!
[10:16] <napstar567> so did u check out shared folders
[10:16] <salutis> ok ok
[10:16] <macximian> mine doesn't work mejde sorry
[10:17] <xored> where are the "sessions" of kde/xfce saved ? they are not deleted anmore, so my list  is endless. I would like to do it manually
[10:17] <edwardsm> if your talking to me about shared folders...yes, though it prompts me to install smb or nfs
[10:17] <concept10> anyone want free computer science education?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> mejde: try asking your question
[10:17] <mejde> thoreauputic: I already did
[10:17] <DAan> yes
[10:17] <jeff_> can someone help me. please look at http://keyboard.hanzjordan.fastmail.fm/Keyboardv108.prc and tell me what kind of editor i need to view/edit it. please!
[10:18] <napstar567> do: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:18] <mejde> thoreauputic: copying via nfs takes 100% cpu and is slow client->server but fast server->client
[10:18] <macximian> i already have smb.conf open but couldn't see where to specify the workgroup name
[10:18] <smajchl> in global section
[10:18] <thoreauputic> mejde: do you have portmap installed?
[10:18] <napstar567> its like the first line
[10:18] <napstar567> ?
[10:18] <mejde> thoreauputic: yes
[10:19] <macximian> i saw the comments for it what exsactly does it want
[10:19] <concept10> help me out, digg this story, this is great stuff: http://digg.com/users/concept10/submitted this is great stuff
[10:19] <macximian> should it be workgroup=blah or what
[10:19] <smajchl> j
[10:19] <thoreauputic> mejde: well, it is likely a configuration problem - did you follow a howto on setting up nfs ?
[10:19] <napstar567> exactly
[10:19] <Irvine> how to download applications by using wget?
[10:20] <ajmitch> concept10: don't do that :P
[10:20] <napstar567> the default value is MSHOME
[10:20] <concept10> ajmitch, that is a great resource
[10:20] <ajmitch> and spamming urls in here really irritates people, ok?
[10:20] <macximian> mine is specifying anything
[10:21] <napstar567> SO IF YOU HAVE NEVER CONFIGURED IT BEFORE IT SHOULD BE
[10:21] <macximian> uh isn't i mean
[10:21] <napstar567> WORKGROUP= MSHOME
[10:21] <macximian> the line is completely empty
[10:21] <concept10> ajmitch, thats no spam
[10:21] <thoreauputic> mejde:  I found this helpful ->> http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/
[10:21] <napstar567> JUST PUT IT THERE
[10:21] <thoreauputic> napstar567: stop it with the caps
[10:22] <salutis> thoreauputic, ok - bind work
[10:22] <ajmitch> concept10: it is, and I don't really feel like arguing it now
[10:22] <napstar567> workgroup=your_workgroup
[10:22] <nofear> hey where can i get a plugin so i can play mp3's on Rhythmbox 0.8.8?
[10:22] <concept10> ajmitch, how is that spam?  im sharing something great I found, I want everyone to know about it
[10:22] <thoreauputic> !tell nofear about restricted
[10:23] <ajmitch> concept10: unrelated to ubuntu, off-topic, etc
[10:24] <mejde> thoreauputic: thanks, I think I've already read it but I'll look through it again
[10:24] <nofear> ok so it's illigal to play mp3's in thythmbox?
[10:24] <nofear> but not xmms?
[10:25] <concept10> ajmitch, maybe youre right but, it is such a resource, I just wanted to share, no harm intended
[10:25] <mejde> thoreauputic: do you have nfs working... and no problems with transfering large files?
[10:25] <freedom> http://infowars.com/images2/daily/mouse_brain.jpg <- this is where we're headed as a race -- total human enslavement!, unless we get off the couch and get educated.
[10:25] <thoreauputic> mejde: nfs can be a tricky thing to set up - just one mistake and nothing works right :)  But once it's up it works very well . yes i have nfs with no problems here
[10:25] <TranceRiver|away> Does anyone own a WRT54G and do they know if it likes ubuntu?
[10:26] <macximian> napstar567:  okay i added workgroup=   do i need to restart or anything
[10:26] <GTroy> what's the ubuntu off topic channel?
[10:26] <GTroy> I'd go there to ask, but....
[10:26] <mejde> thoreauputic: I've never had this much problems with it before though ;)
[10:26] <macximian> TranceRiver|away: I have a WRT54GC and as you can see work fine
[10:26] <thoreauputic> nofear: you can play mp3 with rhythmbox - just sudo apt-et install gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:26] <TranceRiver> The C just means compact?
[10:26] <GTroy> !off topic
[10:26] <ubotu> Not a clue, GTroy
[10:27] <nofear> ok thanks
[10:27] <GTroy> !ubuntu off topic
[10:27] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, GTroy
[10:27] <wizardjames> were do i download the lastest verion of mysql?
[10:27] <macximian> correct
[10:27] <Tobbe|livecd> Hi. I have two 200gb sata disks (and one 80gb sata). In windows the two 200gb disks appears as one disk because I have them raided with raid1. But in Ubuntu I them as sepperate drives. Why is that?
[10:27] <concept10> !paste
[10:27] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:27] <thoreauputic> GTroy:  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:28] <GTroy> thoreauputic: thanks
[10:28] <thoreauputic> np :)
[10:28] <johndarkhorse> GTroy: it's !offtopic
[10:28] <sportmankid> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5849402672
[10:28] <phreak97> has anyone got some time to help me out setting up my tv with ubuntu? (geforce 4 mx 440)
[10:28] <macximian> it has no external antennae
[10:28] <nofear> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:28] <nofear> hmm, i guess its not in the packages of horay
[10:29] <macximian> if i was gonna buy a nother router i would buy the wrt54GC
[10:29] <thoreauputic> nofear: you need universe
[10:29] <Irvine> how to install java?
[10:29] <TranceRiver> Okay.
[10:29] <thoreauputic> !sources
[10:29] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:29] <wizardjames> Tobbe|livecd,   , its becasue your 2 disks, are software raided ..   u would need a hardware to raid them for them to work in ubuntu....  or u could just rebuild the arry
[10:29] <TranceRiver> What wireless adapter do y ou have?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> !nfo gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:29] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, thoreauputic
[10:29] <thoreauputic> hah
[10:29] <nofear> ah duh me lol trying again
[10:29] <TranceRiver> I hear it can be a bit of a hassle to get wireless working with ubuntu.
[10:29] <thoreauputic> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:29] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[10:29] <Irvine> how to install java?
[10:29] <wizardjames> Irvine, ,   http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03s02.html
[10:30] <vilefridge> Has anyone here re-installed GRUB from the Install CD before?  I've been reading a how-to describing how to do this, but selecting install GRUB or Lilo takes me right back to the partitioner.. what am I doing wrong?
[10:31] <TranceRiver> Does anyone know if the EDIMAX EW-7128G wireless adapter will work well with ubuntu?
[10:31] <nofear> thanks works like a charm :)
[10:31] <TranceRiver> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833315041 here's the link to it
[10:31] <pipin> timfrost, Not sure why, because I had done this previously, but apt-get update --fix-missing seemed to do the trick. Not sure about this Linux stuff, but it's fun.
[10:33] <thoreauputic> nofear: no worries :)
[10:33] <liable> TranceRiver: you are better off looking at the output of lspci and googling
[10:33] <Irvine> wizardjames,how to install downloader for x?
[10:33] <Tobbe|livecd> wizardjames, but I have them connected to the raid controler on my motherboard, I thought that would be hardware raid? Or do you need some kind of raid controler even if you're only doing software raid?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> nofear: I strongly suggest reading and following the RestrictedFormats wiki -lots of good info there on multimedia
[10:34] <nofear> Hey is there a place online i could buy a dvd player software for linux?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[10:34] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:34] <nofear> Yeah, I was having problems with the site that bot gave me
[10:34] <nofear> wasnt letting me vew
[10:34] <nofear> view*
[10:34] <pinucset> rpm: To install rpm packages on Debian systems, use alien. See README.Debian.
[10:34] <pinucset> error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - El fitxer o directori no existeix (2)
[10:34] <pinucset> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
[10:34] <pinucset> Done...
[10:34] <pinucset> one think, i'm trying to install catalan language pack for my openoffice 2 and it says:
[10:35] <thoreauputic> pinucset: why are you using rpm ?
[10:35] <TranceRiver> liable: it's RT2500 and I've read that it works.
[10:35] <TranceRiver> So yay!
[10:35] <nofear> brb
[10:35] <nofear> its my firefox thats messed LOL
[10:35] <Irvine> how to install downloader for x?
[10:35] <wizardjames> Tobbe|livecd,  i am not sure ,
[10:36] <Seveas> irvin, apt-get install d4x
[10:36] <thierry> hi all
[10:36] <wizardjames> Irvine,    sudo apt-get install d4x
[10:37] <wizardjames> blash, i am slow Seveas  beats me
[10:37] <thoreauputic> pinucset: if you insiat on using rpm, convert the rpm to deb with the alien utility ( sudo apt-get install alien)
[10:37] <thoreauputic> wizardjames: he beats most of us, most of the time ;)
[10:38] <sobersabre> hello, guys. I have an amd64 system. I want to use skype. how do I do this ?
[10:38] <thierry> I am looking for a picture utility, that would be able to do slideshow of "best of" images. I explain: I have in a directory let's sya 100 images, with a bestof.txt file containing a list of 20 filenames that are my prefered images. What would you advise as a Gnome/Ubuntu utility ?
[10:38] <phreak97> is there a google search toolbar panel?
[10:38] <phreak97> which i can get
[10:38] <liable> TranceRiver: i believe theres drivers on sourceforge for those chipsets
[10:39] <thoreauputic> sobersabre: I think you would need a 32 bit chroot ( I don't run amd64)
[10:39] <sobersabre> phreak97, maybe there's a gnome desklet of this sort.
[10:39] <sobersabre> thoreauputic, sounds horrible
[10:39] <phreak97> dont know where i'd get it?
[10:39] <Tobbe|livecd> I have this motherboard: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=14&l3=66&model=232&modelmenu=1 (it's an asus k8n-e delux motherboard). Can anyone tell if it does hardware raid1?
[10:39] <sobersabre> phreak97, are you on a fast internet ?
[10:40] <TranceRiver> Also. I just bought a computer today for linux. It was 100 dollars for a 933 P3, 20GB hard drive, 256mb ram, 15 inch monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Will this run ubuntu fairly well, and was this an okay purchase?
[10:40] <TranceRiver> It's a gateway, not that it makes a difference.
[10:40] <sobersabre> Tobbe|livecd,  what is the raid controller's chipset ?
[10:40] <thoreauputic> TranceRiver: should work fine
[10:40] <pinucset> thoreauputic the trouble is that the language is a .sh :S not a .rpm :S
[10:40] <phreak97> sobersabre,  average
[10:40] <phreak97> why?
[10:40] <TranceRiver> Okay, sweet. Install breezy, right?
[10:40] <polpak> thierry: I'd suggest making a new directory, and using symlinking to link the best-of files into the new dir and use gthumb or eog on that directory
[10:40] <phreak97> theres some google stuff in symantic
[10:41] <Irvine> wizardjames,how to run d4x?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> pinucset: if it's a.sh you probably run it  ( like ./foo.sh )
[10:41] <sobersabre> phreak97, I mean on a broadband connection or analog modem ?!
[10:41] <thoreauputic> pinucset: you might need chmod +x foo.sh first
[10:41] <Tobbe|livecd> sobersabre, some silicon image chipset
[10:41] <sobersabre> TranceRiver, if you're playing maybe you even can try drapper or daper... I don't remember the name
[10:41] <Tobbe|livecd> Sil 3114
[10:41] <polpak> thierry: you could even script it if you were feeling industrious, to use the txt file to make the symlinks
[10:42] <phreak97> synaptic* im running on low sleep
[10:42] <polpak> sobersabre: dapper
[10:42] <thoreauputic> pinucset: or you can try just   "  sh /path/to/foo.sh  "
[10:42] <TranceRiver> What's dapper?
[10:42] <wizardjames> Irvine,  , its in applactions..  > net
[10:42] <sobersabre> Tobbe|livecd, then it will work, for 'some extent' like any other 'some chipset'
[10:42] <polpak> !dapper
[10:42] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[10:42] <phreak97> sobersabre, 512k dsl
[10:42] <sobersabre> phreak97, use apt-get/synaptic then
[10:42] <sobersabre> search for 'desklet' keyword
[10:42] <polpak> TranceRiver: dapper won't be released until april
[10:43] <wizardjames> how do i update phpmyadmin, mysql, apache..   stuff like that?
[10:43] <TranceRiver> Okay, so then how would I try it if it's not going to be released til' April?
[10:43] <TranceRiver> Or would it be dapper beta?
[10:43] <polpak> TranceRiver: it's in beta now
[10:43] <TranceRiver> Okay, I'd rather stick to a solid release.
[10:43] <Tobbe|livecd> sobersabre, this is the chipset: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/storage/display/sil-3114.html
[10:43] <numberandom> what does it mean when you cant get networking going on any of 3 network cards (including onboard) with breezy, and knoppix won't work either?
[10:43] <sobersabre> polpak, some people that don't work but rather play, or are payed for this - use betas.
[10:43] <polpak> TranceRiver: I'd suggest going with Breezy unless you're very familiar with linux and enjoy debugging
[10:44] <numberandom> bad hardware?
[10:44] <TranceRiver> Okay.
[10:44] <Irvine> wizardjames,no it is not in applications>internet
[10:44] <sobersabre> Tobbe|livecd, let's put it this way: have you looked at any google accessible hardware compatibility lists for this RAID ?
[10:44] <phreak97> sobersabre, i am:)
[10:44] <wizardjames> irvin,  ,  net = internet , sorry for the missunderstnading
[10:44] <nofear> is it possible to upgrade to breezy from a lower distro ?
[10:44] <phreak97> what i really need help with is configuring my tv
[10:45] <polpak> nofear: yes
[10:45] <irvin> geez guys
[10:45] <thoreauputic> !tell no fear about breezy
[10:45] <wizardjames> sorry irvin ,   your name is ..  just 1 off
[10:45] <nofear> there a site i can read up on how to do that?
[10:45] <sobersabre> phreak97, is this your 1st virgin experience with linux ?
[10:45] <polpak> nofear: ubotu just msged you
[10:45] <thoreauputic> !breezy
[10:45] <nofear> no he didnt
[10:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:45] <phreak97> sobersabre, pretty much
[10:46] <clinfix> I cant find the PATH variable, where is it located?
[10:46] <nofear> he told no
[10:46] <nofear> :P
[10:46] <thoreauputic> nofear: then you aren't registerd with nickserv
[10:46] <thierry> polpak: (sorry the phone) irfanview, my W$ tool, was able to do slideshow from any text file, and I was looking for something with W$ compatibility (I doubt about ln -s in W$)
[10:46] <sobersabre> phreak97, then you don't want dapper
[10:46] <thoreauputic> *registered
[10:46] <sobersabre> use breezy badger, and enjoy it's breezyness.
[10:46] <phreak97> i've been using it about a week and a half, but im far from well knowledged lol
[10:46] <nofear> i am but u typed !tell no fear about breezy
[10:46] <TranceRiver> Would you guys rather have a WRT54GS 1.0 or a WRT54G 2.2?
[10:46] <polpak> thierry: oh.. I don't use windows. Sorry
[10:46] <phreak97> whats dapper?
[10:46] <Tobbe|livecd> sobersabre, I'm googleing for information right now...
[10:47] <nofear> !breezy
[10:47] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:47] <polpak> ubotu tell phreak97 about breezy
[10:47] <sobersabre> Tobbe|livecd, good way of operating
[10:47] <polpak> whoops
[10:47] <sobersabre> phreak97, you've just been told that.
[10:47] <polpak> ubotu tell phreak97 about dapper
[10:47] <sobersabre> listen, go for breezy. ( that's a period at the end of previous sentence)
[10:48] <liable> TranceRiver: check out whirlpool forums (good info on routers and such)
[10:48] <TranceRiver> Yeah I'm browsing around.
[10:48] <thierry> polpak: i made the effort (yes it is an effort to be free) to switch to Ubuntu, but Canon delivers W$ printer, and I have t keep W$...
[10:48] <liable> TranceRiver: and i try and avoid lynksys like the plague :)
[10:48] <TranceRiver> Just checkin' here to see if anyone had any person experiance.
[10:48] <phreak97> im using breezy afaik
[10:48] <TranceRiver> Heh, and you like?
[10:48] <sobersabre> does anybody know of a document on how to setup dual environment: both 32bit and 64 bit with a amd64 kernel
[10:48] <sobersabre> phreak97, then you're fine.
[10:48] <phreak97> i still dont know how to make my tv work
[10:49] <liable> atm, i got a billion.
[10:49] <sobersabre> phreak97, if it is supported it should be easy.
[10:49] <polpak> thierry: sure, no worries. I just don't do windows support. (as I don't use it). Not judging =)
[10:49] <phreak97> i want my svideo output to work as a second monitor to play movies on
[10:49] <thoreauputic> !tell sobersabre about chroot
[10:49] <phreak97> sobersabre,  it is, but i from xorg.conf about three times trying to make it go
[10:50] <thierry> polpak: ok, no worry. So, whatever the OS i'm coming from, I'm looking how to reuse my "bestof.txt" as is.
[10:51] <sobersabre> phreak97, is your X working ok with 2 monitors ?
[10:51] <phreak97> phreak97,  nup
[10:51] <phreak97> oops
[10:51] <phreak97> sobersabre,  nup
[10:51] <sobersabre> phreak97, then 1st concentrate on that only.
[10:51] <Chameleon22> scanner not being detected by kooka (and gimp) but shows up on device list when kooka is started - ideas , cause i am all out , loaded firmware, lsmod looks fine, etc   also how do i check what device (in /dev/) it is assigned to so i can ln fake scanner device to it ?
[10:51] <sobersabre> do you have 2 similar displays or different ?
[10:51] <polpak> thierry: well I could show you how to script the symlink thing in linux.. But like I said. I don't support other OS's
[10:51] <phreak97> well i dont have two cards
[10:52] <polpak> thierry: =)
[10:52] <phreak97> so it doesnt autodetect
[10:52] <sobersabre> phreak97, I don't understand. you told:
[10:52] <phreak97> i have one card with dual output
[10:52] <sobersabre> i want my svideo output to work as a second monitor to play movies on
[10:52] <phreak97> thats right
[10:52] <polpak> phreak97: are you sure that svideo will work as a second display?
[10:52] <sobersabre> phreak97, you are in a mess of confusion. that's all.
[10:53] <sobersabre> :)
[10:53] <phreak97> i have one video card, it has vga and svideo. it supports both at once as seperate displays
[10:53] <phreak97> i do it in windows all the time
[10:53] <thierry> polpak: =) , yes i know how to do it : cat bestof.txt|xargs gthumb --slideshow
[10:53] <phreak97> you can drag shit over to it and all
[10:53] <Draken> is there any good download manager for UBUNTU ????
[10:53] <phreak97> not just a clone
[10:54] <sobersabre> phreak97, ok. still, you need to configure your X to know you want the 2nd card's pipeline to be used as a separate screen
[10:54] <Irvine> i have a question
[10:54] <phreak97> i know, but i dont know how
[10:54] <thierry> polpak: but was looking gui/gnome way
[10:54] <sobersabre> please refer to howto on how to setup multiple displays environment.
[10:54] <polpak> thierry: didn't know gthumb would take args for the slideshow.. even better
[10:54] <phreak97> i kept breaking the conf file
[10:54] <thoreauputic> Draken: you might loke d4x ( downloader for X )
[10:54] <raymond> why wont my flashdrive work in linux
[10:54] <wza> Draken: Firefox?
[10:54] <polpak> thierry: why not just put that into a launcher?
[10:54] <Irvine> i have installed alicq but its icon don't present in applications>internet,
[10:54] <phreak97> and having to restore it via command line
[10:54] <polpak> thierry: or a script in your bin directory
[10:54] <phreak97> sobersabre,  can you help me?
[10:55] <thierry> polpak: launcher? (script i know)
[10:55] <sobersabre> phreak97, it depends on the card, but it took me too about a week of occasional 1/4 hour readings to figure it out. this part of linux is very underdocumented for a newbie user.
[10:55] <stoneage> linux linxu linux
[10:55] <polpak> thierry: if you go to application->system tools->Application menu editor
[10:55] <Irvine> can anyone help me
[10:55] <polpak> thierry: you can add a new menu option
[10:55] <sobersabre> phreak97, I don't have the answer in the sleeve, and I won't debug it with you: I must disconnect.
[10:55] <sobersabre> sorry, man.
[10:55] <phreak97> sobersabre,  what card you got?
[10:56] <sobersabre> I've setup this on my laptop with i855GM card
[10:56] <phreak97> damn
[10:56] <sobersabre> desktops usually are easier.
[10:56] <polpak> thierry:  Or better still, you can make a nautelus script and plug it into the rightclick menu. Then just right click your txt file and select the script and voom
[10:56] <phreak97> alright, thanks anyway
[10:56] <phreak97> yeah
[10:56] <Tobbe|livecd> sobersabre, I found the vendor page for the controler, and they have Linux drivers, but only for Fedora Core and SuSE. Am I out of luck?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Irvine: is this for ICQ? You realise that gaim does ICQ ?
[10:57] <sobersabre> Tobbe|livecd, get the sources.
[10:57] <sobersabre> and compile them yourself.
[10:57] <thierry> polpak: yes, i prefer this last one than menu editor. It would be perfect if it could run from gthumb !
[10:57] <sobersabre> Tobbe|livecd, I also suggest you to look at debian HCL and kernel.org's HCL
[10:57] <Tobbe|livecd> there are no sources for download
[10:57] <sobersabre> Tobbe|livecd, maybe the binaries come with the source in them.
[10:58] <sobersabre> i mean bundled
[10:58] <sobersabre> ok must disconenct.
[10:58] <sobersabre> bye all.
[10:58] <LiGhTeNiN> poningru: it's a pity I couldn't get my connection working because now I can't install from the live-cd :<
[10:58] <Irvine> thoreauputic,i also installed d4x but its icon not present in application>internet
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Irvine: hmm - I don't know which menu d4x is supposed to be in, but doing  killall gnome-panel might fix that
[10:59] <Irvine> how?
[10:59] <polpak> thierry: well as I said you could script it to run from nautelus.. just right click the txt file, or you could have it operate on the directory instead (right click the directory) and it would look in that dir for a bestof.txt and slideshow those
[10:59] <dAndy> is there a fix for the broken locales pre-install script in dapper? I would look in bugzilla but I kinda dont have X
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Irvine: sometimes it takes a re-login or a refresh of the panel to get menu entries
[10:59] <polpak> thierry: lemme find you the howto on nautelus scripting
[11:00] <zzzzzzzzzz> what is basic value of umask??
[11:00] <Irvine> ok
[11:00] <thoreauputic> Irvine: in a  terminal, typ e   killall gnome-panel
[11:00] <dAndy> zzzzzzzzzz: 0022
[11:00] <dAndy> typically
[11:00] <zzzzzzzzzz> thank you
[11:02] <polpak> thierry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//NautilusScriptsHowto
[11:02] <thierry> polpak: thank you very much
[11:03] <tvbs> and next?>
[11:03] <tvbs> is ther someone in here
[11:03] <LiGhTeNiN> are you sure I wont get my connection that has a ericsson hn294dp router working under kubuntu live-cd? Then I can't install from it
[11:03] <tvbs> hehe
[11:03] <tvbs> change another disk lar
[11:03] <tvbs> maybe it's wrong
[11:04] <thierry> polpak: i will read and try. Thanks again. Bye
[11:05] <LiGhTeNiN> tvbs: you are talking to me?
[11:05] <id_sonic> tvbs: shhhhhhhhittttttttt
[11:05] <id_sonic> hello "tvbs" is a new ubuntu user.
[11:05] <polpak> id_sonic: language pls
[11:05] <tvbs> haha
[11:05] <tvbs> shit
[11:05] <tvbs> id_sonic
[11:06] <tvbs> whayt's up
[11:06] <athlon> I am having trouble when apt-getting xnest. It seems that the server is down, but Ive just instaled wine, kompose and a few others without problem.
[11:06] <thoreauputic> id_sonic: no more or you will be out
[11:06] <xbrucex> anyone know a quick way to read the ATIP disc info on a DVD-R blank (just like a CD-R blank)? /proc/ide/hdd/media gives me no info
[11:06] <athlon> could someone please try apt-get xnest and see if it works
[11:06] <tvbs> I have trouble
[11:06] <LiGhTeNiN> are you sure I wont get my connection that has a ericsson hn294dp router working under kubuntu live-cd? Then I can't install from it
[11:06] <tvbs> getting back
[11:06] <polpak> !find xnest
[11:06] <ubotu> xnest: (nested X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 1251 kB, Installed size: 3368 kB
[11:06] <thoreauputic> athlon: sudo apt-get install xnest
[11:06] <Irvine> how to run wine after installed?
[11:06] <Irvine> anyone
[11:07] <polpak> Irvine: I'd suggest first using winetools to configure/install the base system
[11:07] <athlon> thoreauputic, yup it was sudo-ed
[11:07] <Irvine> how
[11:07] <athlon> thoreauputic, the problem is with server not responding
[11:07] <polpak> Irvine: sudo apt-get install winetools
[11:07] <polpak> Irvine: then just run winetools in a terminal
[11:08] <UncleD> Is anyone here running ubuntu as a production webserver/mailserver/nameserver for client-based sites/applications?
[11:08] <polpak> Irvine: it will walk you through the setup process
[11:08] <thoreauputic> athlon:  you mean the ubuntu server for apt?
[11:08] <athlon> thoreauputic, yep
[11:08] <thoreauputic> athlon: try a differnet mirror then
[11:08] <PeteyPablo> !freenx
[11:08] <ubotu> well, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[11:08] <Irvine> polpak,Couldn't find package winetools
[11:08] <Irvine> 
[11:08] <UncleD> thoreauputic: you a debian user as well as ubuntu?
[11:09] <athlon> !mirror
[11:09] <ubotu> hmm... mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:09] <thoreauputic> UncleD: used to be :)
[11:09] <polpak> Irvine: sorry, you need to actually use the winehq repos
[11:09] <Irvine> how?
[11:09] <UncleD> thoreauputic: ah. I'm setting up a new server and I currently run ubuntu on a test server (i tried out). I've never used debian before but i've heard claims that its a "real os" whereas ubuntu isn't (as far as servers go). Any thoughts?
[11:09] <polpak> Irvine: go to http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[11:10] <UncleD> I'm honestly not trying to troll here btw, just get an idea of how ubuntu would do as a production webserver/mailserver.
[11:10] <thoreauputic> UncleD: yes - whoever told you that was on crack :)
[11:10] <athlon> hmm... now I cant access the mirror list
[11:10] <Dashiva> i'd say ubuntu is more stable than debian at this point
[11:10] <Dashiva> more polish
[11:10] <Dashiva> even on the server stuff
[11:10] <thoreauputic> UncleD: afaik lots of people are using it without issues
[11:10] <UncleD> thoreauputic: it was a "debian junkie" type of person im guessing. I downloaded debian install to try it out on vmware, no luck.
[11:10] <athlon> is ubuntu.com down or something ?
[11:10] <liable> polish!=stable
[11:11] <ajmitch> UncleD: I'd recommend ubuntu as a server just as readily as I'd recommend debian
[11:11] <UncleD> thoreaputic: After a fresh install of debian from the install cd, do you have any "first things first" type of actions that you do right away, to customize your install?
[11:11] <UncleD> ajmitch: I appreciate your vote of confidence. You guys are really giving me a more comfortable feeling about using ubuntu as my production server.
[11:11] <thoreauputic> UncleD: Ubuntu is virtually the same as Debian - just gets a new stable release every 6 months
[11:11] <Hendikins> liable: Microsoft products are a case in point
[11:11] <coz> hello again I can't sleep
[11:12] <liable> Hendikins: indeed.
[11:12] <UncleD> coz: that's because you're having so much fun??
[11:12] <coz> I wanted you guys to look at a screen ruler by the company iconico at iconico .com
[11:12] <Hendikins> I'm just visiting from upstream/firefox
[11:12] <coz> i am trying to get them to write this app for debian
[11:12] <coz> if like it send them an email. Apparently I have been theonlylinux person to write them ever
[11:13] <UncleD> ajmitch, anything you could tell me in regards to the question i asked thoreaputic in regards to "first things first" installs after you install the OS.
[11:13] <thoreauputic> UncleD: what you do first after install really depends on the purpose
[11:13] <poningru> hehe yeah he is
[11:13] <ajmitch> UncleD: after you do a server install, you don't have a webserver, etc installed
[11:13] <UncleD> thoreaputic: well, I guess kind of.. I mean, are there anythings you just can't live without.
[11:13] <ajmitch> you just grab the packages you want
[11:13] <coz> yes I am having fun quitting smking
[11:13] <coz> smoking
[11:13] <UncleD> coz: I quit dec 1st
[11:13] <coz> congratulations
[11:13] <UncleD> 9 years.
[11:14] <coz> whoa real congrats
[11:14] <UncleD> Off and on. This is the longest i've gone without smoking in 9 years that is.
[11:14] <coz> well I am chewing on a cigar not lighting it
[11:14] <coz> anyway
[11:14] <UncleD> Quitting drinking made a big difference for me.
[11:14] <KeithWeisshar> why is the ubuntu live cd slow
[11:14] <KeithWeisshar> it takes over 5 minutes to boot up
[11:14] <UncleD> coz: I wouldn't be able to quit smoking without quitting drinking. I had to give up both.
[11:15] <coz>  please if you guys look at the screen ruler at iconico.com and like it, write them an emale to port it to ubuntu
[11:15] <coz> Great UnlcleD
[11:15] <coz> that must have been tuff
[11:16] <coz> has anyone used the appkications gruler and or colorscheme
[11:17] <PeteyPablo> is the seveas mirror down?
[11:17] <coz> seveas
[11:17] <PeteyPablo> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:17] <PeteyPablo> im trying to get freenx -_-
[11:18] <FlannelKing> guys, if I install ubuntu on a harddrive, and then move that drive to another (vastly different) system, am I going to run into problems?
[11:18] <LCamel_> A Copy-n-Paste VServer Guide for Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy   http://lcamel.blogspot.com/2006/01/copy-n-paste-vserver-guide-for-ubuntu.html  # any suggestions?
[11:20] <Hendikins> FlannelKing: I would think it would depend on how vastly different. You'll drive the hardware detection nuts, that's for sure.
[11:20] <FlannelKing> well, it's going from a desktop, to an old old laptop
[11:20] <poningru> LCamel_: try the #ubuntu-doc
[11:21] <FlannelKing> so, from 1gb RAM to 40MB, and... 3GHz to 77mHz, and.... hmm, well, I guess the harddrive wont change.
[11:21] <fli7e> anyone know of a way to get tsclient to use specific outgoing ports?
[11:21] <PeteyPablo> FlannelKing: 77mhz ..?
[11:21] <LCamel_> poningru: thanks! :)
[11:21] <PeteyPablo> FlannelKing: and 40mb.. ubuntu wont run on that i don't think
[11:21] <Hendikins> 40MB RAM? Are you nuts?
[11:22] <FlannelKing> erm, 75MHz
[11:22] <fli7e> or better yet, a way to get tsclient to tunnel through a proxy?
[11:22] <PeteyPablo> ubuntu requires 128, and i wouldn't run it with less then 256
[11:22] <ROBOd> hey guys
[11:22] <poningru> FlannelKing: you shouldnt
[11:22] <ROBOd> i managed to make my TV tuner work on linux :)
[11:22] <FlannelKing> Ubuntu requires 128? Whys that?  Debian doesnt?
[11:22] <poningru> FlannelKing: wait 40 mb?
[11:22] <thoreauputic> FlannelKing: Damn Small Linux *might* work on that machine
[11:22] <FlannelKing> yeah, why?
[11:23] <ROBOd> i have to rmmod bt878 then rmmod bttv ... and modprobe bttv card=78
[11:23] <poningru> FlannelKing: thats not going to work at all
[11:23] <FlannelKing> psh, woody apparently runs fine.
[11:23] <poningru> FlannelKing: because of dependency on gnome
[11:23] <ROBOd> but .... when i restart ... it doesn't remember the card
[11:23] <FlannelKing> No, Im not going to install gnome
[11:23] <ROBOd> i have to do the same always :)
[11:23] <ROBOd> how to save the card type?
[11:23] <thoreauputic> FlannelKing: Woody is over 3 years old ( gettin on for 4 )
[11:23] <poningru> FlannelKing: if you do a custom install and dont install ubuntu-desktop you can probably get away with it
[11:24] <poningru> FlannelKing: look into xubuntu
[11:24] <Irvine> polpak,after installed winetools how to run wine?
[11:24] <ROBOd> Irvine: do not use winetools
[11:24] <thoreauputic> on 4oMB I would use blackbox or maybe openbox
[11:24] <FlannelKing> poningru, I was asking about problems with installing, then moving HD, I've already got my setup picked out, although Im always open to suggestions
[11:24] <ROBOd> Irvine: use wine 0.9.3 (not 0.9.4 because it's unstable)
[11:24] <Irvine> ok
[11:25] <Irvine> now,how to run winw?
[11:25] <ROBOd> Irvine: they've got winecfg (winetools no longer works)
[11:25] <ROBOd> Irvine: install it first :)
[11:25] <dotrig> How i get sound in ubuntu in flash and games etc??? xmms works it
[11:25] <Irvine> how?
[11:25] <ROBOd> so ... guys .... how to make the bttv card=78 the default?
[11:26] <Irvine> ROBOd,how to install winecfg?
[11:27] <Irvine> how to run wine?
[11:27] <poningru> Irvine: you may wanna look into !wine
[11:27] <poningru> !wine
[11:27] <ROBOd> Irvine: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[11:27] <thoreauputic> FlannelKing: I would do a server install - to get networking going you might need to modprobe a driver/module for your nic - if you get that working you can apt-get what you need later
[11:27] <mejde> I think I've found the problem, the nfs client needs to resend over 4000 segments when copying a 175 MB file
[11:27] <febi> hi
[11:27] <poningru> Irvine: the link ROBOd gave
[11:28] <Irvine> ok
[11:28] <ROBOd> poningru: any idea how to make bttv card=78 the default on boot?
[11:28] <thoreauputic> mejde: 175 MB isn't that big - it should tranfer fairly quickly
[11:29] <poningru> ROBOd: is that a vid card spec?
[11:29] <cvt|gnuyear> is there very many video types that can't be played on ubuntu?
[11:29] <poningru> that probably goes in xorg
[11:29] <poningru> err xorg.conf
[11:29] <ROBOd> poningru: that's a tuner TV card type
[11:30] <thoreauputic> cvt|gnuyear: most will play with w32codecs installed
[11:30] <mejde> thoreauputic: yes, but it seems the socket receive buffer on the client is to small
[11:30] <poningru> !tell cvt|gnuyear about restricted
[11:30] <cvt|gnuyear> thoreauputic, i can't find that in synaptic.
[11:30] <thoreauputic> mejde: that's over my head :)
[11:30] <mejde> thoreauputic: all I have to do now is figure out how to increase it :)
[11:30] <ROBOd> poningru: by default it's unknown ... and i always have to unload bttv then reload with card=78
[11:30] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[11:30] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:30] <cvt|gnuyear> i've tried that link a billion times
[11:30] <cvt|gnuyear> not that one
[11:31] <Ofe> Is there a command to see conflicting packages? I'm planning to update from hoary to breezy with no cd.
[11:31] <poningru> ROBOd: yeah dude look around in your xorg.conf
[11:32] <poningru> Ofe: what do you mean? if you have ubuntu-desktop package installed and then distupgrade you should be good to go
[11:32] <thoreauputic> cvt|gnuyear: that link show you two places to download w32codecs...
[11:32] <cvt|gnuyear> k
[11:32] <thoreauputic> as a .deb
[11:33] <Ofe> poningru : I'm not sure if I have any conflicting packages and this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes tells me to get rid of those if I have any. :)
[11:33] <thoreauputic> !tell Ofe about breezy
[11:33] <Irvine> i am using panasonic kx-p3626 printer.
[11:33] <Irvine> where can i get its driver?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> Ofe: ah sorry
[11:33] <Madpilot> !printers
[11:33] <ubotu> it has been said that printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:34] <kresten> Hi there! Does anybody know why I get this error "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist" almost every time I try to read a cd?
[11:34] <Madpilot> Irvine: have you used either of the URLs that ubotu gave above? ^^^
[11:35] <poningru> Ofe: did you install any .deb packages from outside the repositories?
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Ofe: usually it works fine - if you run into troubles at the end try  sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ( occasionally you nedd to repeat that a few times)
[11:35] <Ofe> poningru : I've done nothing yet, just leeching some info in case I do run into trouble and lose internet connection (again) while updating. :)
[11:36] <Irvine> yes
[11:36] <az[a] zel> hi. I cannot network using samba between my mac os x machine and my ubuntu breezy machine
[11:36] <az[a] zel> smbclient //server/sharename works
[11:36] <Ofe> oh and yes, I think I've installed a couple .deb packages. totem-xine at least
[11:37] <az[a] zel> but the Finder will _not_ connect to a share
[11:37] <Irvine> how to share a printer with windows?
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Ofe: totem-xine should be OK - but check if you have ubuntu-desktop installed ( on warty totem-xine uninstalled it - hoary is OK afaik)
[11:38] <kresten> Hi there! Does anybody know why I get this error "mount: special device /dev/scd0 does not exist" almost every time I try to read a cd?
[11:39] <thoreauputic> kresten: you cdrom would normally be  /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd  - are you using a SCSI  cdrom ?
[11:40] <thoreauputic> *your
[11:40] <az[a] zel> from reading the forums, I take it the samba is broken in breezy
[11:40] <gaz> hi im new to ubuntu ive recently used fedora, i used to use websites such as rpmfind to get packages what are the debian equivalent websites for getting packages?
[11:40] <poningru> az[a] zel: not really
[11:41] <poningru> gaz: its built in
[11:41] <poningru> gaz: use synaptic
[11:41] <az[a] zel> poningru: i can't seem to connect to it from my ibook
[11:41] <thoreauputic> gaz: use synaptic
[11:41] <az[a] zel> poningru: other people are reporting similar problems in ubuntu forums.. was working in hoary, now in breezy it doesn't
[11:41] <thoreauputic> !tell gaz about synaptic
[11:41] <poningru> az[a] zel: oh yeah the ppc had some probs iirc,
[11:41] <kresten> thoreauputic, its external
[11:41] <gaz> ok i'll give it a whril ty
[11:41] <thoreauputic> kresten: ah I see
[11:41] <poningru> az[a] zel: but using samba here with no prob
[11:41] <az[a] zel> poningru: this is a PPC mac OS X box connecting to an x86 ubuntu breezy mafhine
[11:41] <pinucset> one think, is there some distribution that's always updating the packages? when firefox 2 was released in ubuntu I must wait to dapper drake or install it via tar.gz. is there any distribution wich sends it me via apt-get?
[11:41] <shotpoint> anyone here have flash
[11:41] <stark-johan> the latest version of gtkpod in the synaptic packages is 0,94 but the latest release is 0,99, As I'm having troubles with 0,94 I thought I'd try to compile 0,99, is this a good idea or am I missing something?
[11:42] <cvt|gnuyear> i have no sound
[11:42] <febi> hi
[11:42] <Madpilot> !anyone
[11:42] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:42] <poningru> az[a] zel: woah yeah with a mac box the samba support is even worse
[11:43] <ROBOd> where to get the list of kernel modules loaded?
[11:43] <febi> hi
[11:43] <shotpoint> how do you just change one frame on flash
[11:43] <kresten> thoreauputic, any ideas?
[11:43] <febi> hi
[11:43] <ROBOd> poningru: bttv is *not* in xorg.conf
[11:43] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: lsmod
[11:43] <shotpoint> every time i select one it chooses all the frames
[11:44] <thoreauputic> kresten: no sorry - I don't use external Cd-ROM and I don't know
[11:44] <kresten> thoreauputic, ok.
[11:44] <cvt|gnuyear> how do i make mplayer stop freezing whenever i try to open a movie file?
[11:44] <poningru> ROBOd: hmm ic
[11:44] <ROBOd> thoreauputic: and ... where do i edit the modules which are loaded during boot?
[11:44] <thoreauputic> kresten: check /var/log/messages when you attach it to see what the system thinks
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ROBOd: to add them put them in /etc/modules  - to remove you can use /etc/hotplug/blacklist IIRC
[11:45] <stark-johan> When I try to compile libgpod I get this error (pkg-config is installed): configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2.0 >= 2.4.0 gobject-2.0) were not met.
[11:45] <stark-johan> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[11:45] <stark-johan> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[11:45] <stark-johan> Alternatively you may set the LIBGPOD_CFLAGS and LIBGPOD_LIBS environment variables
[11:45] <stark-johan> to avoid the need to call pkg-config.  See the pkg-config man page for
[11:45] <stark-johan> more details.
[11:46] <thoreauputic> stark-johan: do *not* paste in here!
[11:46] <UncleD> thor: what sort of must-have packages do you install typically on a fresh install for your uses? (do you have a preferred webserver setup)?
[11:46] <kresten> thoreauputic, Dec 31 11:24:15 localhost kernel: [4295850.448000]  usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 76
[11:47] <stark-johan> ok, sorry.
[11:47] <polpak> stark-johan: use pastebin
[11:47] <thoreauputic> UncleD: I'm not the best person to ask - I just have a small home network and little server expertise  ;)
[11:47] <thoreauputic> !paste
[11:47] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:47] <kresten> thoreauputic, and it just keeps adding that same line over and over...
[11:47] <stark-johan> polpak: what is pastebin?
[11:48] <polpak> ubotu tell stark-johan about pastebin
[11:48] <poningru> UncleD: there is a ubuntu server channel somewhere on freenode iirc
[11:48] <thoreauputic> kresten: have you tried   lsusb   ?
[11:48] <taomaster> happy new years 2 all- i have a ?, how do i change my root password?
[11:48] <taomaster> or can i?
[11:48] <Madpilot> taomaster: use sudo, not root
[11:48] <Madpilot> !tell taomaster about root
[11:48] <polpak> taomaster: you can, but you shouldn't
[11:49] <polpak> taomaster: use sudo instead
[11:49] <thoreauputic> !tell taomaster about rootsudo
[11:49] <thoreauputic> heh
[11:49] <Bizzeh> does ubuntu come with an ntfs read enabled kernel?
[11:49] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: I'm well ahead of you :P
[11:49] <poningru> Bizzeh: yes
[11:49] <polpak> Bizzeh: yes
[11:49] <kresten> thoreauputic, nope, i'm new to linux, so I don't know the different commands...
[11:49] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: indeed :)
[11:49] <cvt|gnuyear> mplayer is not playing anything
[11:50] <thoreauputic> kresten:  well   lsusb  might tell you something useful
[11:50] <taomaster> well i tried to use  get-apt dist-upgrade and it asked for my password and it said it was the wrong 1
[11:50] <ROBOd> any of you knows how to trick an app i got another CPU type?
[11:50] <ROBOd> i386 instead of i686
[11:51] <polpak> taomaster: you should use your own password for sudo
[11:51] <thoreauputic> taomaster: read the link ubotu sent you
[11:51] <kresten> thoreauputic, I tried it. It told me that my mouse is connected...
[11:51] <ROBOd> i've been told it's possible by setting some env vars
[11:51] <thoreauputic> kresten: which you already knew :)
[11:52] <topyli> ROBOd: which app? why would you want to lie to it? :)
[11:52] <thoreauputic> kresten: sorry I don't really know how to help you - maybe run  dmesg after plugging it in
[11:52] <kresten> thoreauputic, Yeah...
[11:52] <bina> does anyone know where i might be able to find an Ubuntu package for kqemu? its not in my repos and gooling hasnt really produced anything.
[11:52] <ROBOd> topyli: an app under wine :)
[11:52] <Pygi> topyli: huh, not the Gaim one again :P
[11:52] <phreak97> score!
[11:52] <phreak97> i got two x displays
[11:52] <polpak> ROBOd: wine has it's own settings for "lying" to apps
[11:53] <polpak> ROBOd: take a look at winecfg
[11:53] <ROBOd> polpak: it has an option of lying the windows version
[11:53] <ROBOd> polpak: i'm not aware of the CPU type option
[11:53] <kresten> thoreauputic, tryed that, but it pretty much gives me the same result as /var/log/messages... Thanks anyway!
[11:53] <thegladiator> how do i log into gaim as invisible ?
[11:53] <stark-johan> When I try to ./configure I get an error saying I don't have glib but I'm pretty sure I do. I have pasted the output from the shell in the pastebin. (smart page btw)
[11:53] <topyli> ROBOd: what app would rather run on a 386 than a 686 i don't know
[11:54] <Bizzeh> does ubuntu or linux its self have DEP ?
[11:54] <Bizzeh> (hardware DEP)
[11:54] <gaz> thoreauputic,  is synaptic equivalent to the command line dkpg?
[11:54] <ROBOd> topyli: a freaky one :P
[11:54] <ROBOd> now seriously ... how to do it?
[11:54] <polpak> gaz: more like a gui for apt-get
[11:54] <Pygi> stark: development version of glib you need.....
[11:54] <thoreauputic> gaz: not exactly - it's a front end for apt-get
[11:54] <Pygi> !patience
[11:54] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:54] <gaz> kk ty
[11:55] <thoreauputic> gaz: apt-get talks to dpkg ( dpkg is lower level)
[11:55] <gaz> aaah i see
[11:55] <thegladiator> how do i log into gaim as invisible ? nyone ?
[11:56] <Pygi> gladiator: why would you ever want to do that? gaim is not a protocol btw. :P
[11:56] <thegladiator> just personal reasons . i need to log in to check out some messsages
[11:56] <cvt|gnuyear> i've lost sound. any help?
[11:57] <thegladiator> yahoo is my proto
[11:57] <Pygi> you can't login i nto yahoo as invisible....
[11:57] <thegladiator> :( thanks
[11:58] <poningru> thegladiator: you can login as invisible for the aol account iirc
[11:58] <poningru> thegladiator: ask in #gaim for more info
[11:58] <phreak97> is there any antiflicker program i could get for managing my tv
[11:59] <bimberi> stark-johan: libglib2.0-dev ?
[11:59] <thegladiator> thank you . i needed to login to yahoo , gues nothing works ion that front
[11:59] <thoreauputic> bimberi: beat me to it :)
[12:00] <bimberi> thoreauputic: haha :) (mc & hny btw)
[12:00] <aatu> test
[12:00] <thoreauputic> bimberi: sam to you :)
[12:00] <thoreauputic> *same
[12:00] <bimberi> :)
[12:00] <thoreauputic> aatu: no you are invivible ;)
[12:01] <aatu> okey I am new here
[12:01] <thoreauputic> aatu: welcome :)
[12:01] <aatu> thanks
[12:04] <cvt|gnuyear> my videos either don't have sound, no picture, or cause mplayer to freeze. any help?
[12:04] <stark-johan> pygi > thank you, seemed to work fine.
[12:05] <Pygi> stark: what worked fine? yw
[12:05] <manny> hey, how you download videos from IRC?
[12:05] <Pygi> ah, the dev version of glib :P
[12:05] <Pygi> stark-johan: sorry, still sleepin' :P
[12:06] <cvt|gnuyear> manny, for example, if someone posts a link that ends in .avi, .mpg, .mov
[12:06] <Bizzeh> thats downloading a video via http
[12:06] <Bizzeh> not irc
[12:06] <poningru> manny: this is not the place to look for warez
[12:06] <poningru> !warez
[12:06] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[12:06] <Bizzeh> someone just told you how to get it via irc
[12:07] <zelevw> hi guys...for the second time, second computer after successfully using ubuntu 5.10 for a couple of weeks then nothing will work because my file system becomes read-only...where can things be going wrong?
[12:07] <cvt|gnuyear> anyone know how to play videos?
[12:08] <topyli> !anyone
[12:08] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:08] <Sturgeon> cvt|gnuyear: with totem or mplayer
[12:08] <cvt|gnuyear> Sturgeon, totem plays zero files and mplayer freezes upon opening a file.
[12:09] <Sturgeon> what kind of file are you trying to play?
[12:09] <manny> Hey thanks GUSY!!!
[12:09] <thoreauputic> cvt|gnuyear: install totem-xine and try that
[12:09] <cvt|gnuyear> .avi. .mpg .wmv
[12:09] <topyli> cvt|gnuyear: maybe you don't have codecs for your files
[12:09] <cvt|gnuyear> plus more
[12:09] <manny> *Guys
[12:09] <Sturgeon> yeah
[12:09] <topyli> !restricted
[12:09] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:10] <bina> !tell bina about grub
[12:10] <Madpilot> cvt|gnuyear: try totem-xine instead of the default totem...
[12:10] <cvt|gnuyear> k
[12:10] <Hendikins> I'm just adding some distribution-specific notes to PluginDoc for Ubuntu. Is there anywhere aside from the Ubuntu wiki that I should look to procure information from?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: beat you this time ;-)
[12:10] <omerlh> Hello
[12:10] <topyli> sad but true, gstreamer doesn't yet play everything yet
[12:10] <omerlh> I need help with mounting my usb FDD
[12:11] <zelevw> i cant even run firefox so i can go to the forums and look for help
[12:11] <clast> anyone here got banshee 0.10.2 running in breezy?
[12:11] <poningru> zelevw: whats wrong?
[12:12] <zelevw> poningru:...for the second time, second computer, after successfully using ubuntu 5.10 for a couple of weeks then nothing will work because my file system becomes read-only...
[12:12] <topyli> clast: probably. i take it that you don't?
[12:12] <poningru> zelevw: hmm it just becomes read only?
[12:12] <zelevw> ponningru: yes
[12:12] <poningru> zelevw: you sure the disk is not full?
[12:13] <poningru> zelevw: that happend to me couple of days ago
[12:13] <clast> topyli, yeah, i get it to compile after meeting all the deps. but when i try to run it i get an error saying it can't load dbus-sharp
[12:13] <poningru> and the disk was full
[12:13] <zelevw> poningru: 75% used...on both computers
[12:13] <zelevw> poningru: what was it?
[12:13] <thoreauputic> errors on the disk can make the system remount it read only
[12:13] <poningru> zelevw: are you checking the partition or the disk?
[12:13] <zelevw> poningru: df -k
[12:13] <poningru> zelevw: what file format?
[12:13] <Bizzeh> 15gb is more than enough for ubuntu right?
[12:13] <topyli> clast: that's a bug i'd say. it should depend on dbus-sharp if it needs it to run
[12:14] <poningru> Bizzeh: yep
[12:14] <topyli> clast: where did you get the source?
[12:14] <zelevw> poningru: ext3
[12:14] <clast> topyli, it'S the official source tarball
[12:14] <Bizzeh> is it posible to recompile ubuntu if you feel like it?
[12:14] <cvt|gnuyear> totem xine fixed one problem so far
[12:14] <zelevw> poningru: i think
[12:14] <cvt|gnuyear> ty
[12:15] <poningru> zelevw: you sure its not something like reiser4 or something?
[12:15] <zelevw> poningru: ext3
[12:15] <topyli> clast: i'd rather build a package from dapper sources
[12:15] <thoreauputic> zelevw: you could run  sudo shutdown -r -F now    to force a disk check on reboot
[12:15] <thoreauputic> of course that will reboot the machine...
[12:16] <zelevw> thoreauputic: thx!  i'll try that now...
[12:16] <clast> topyli, what do you mean? get the sources from the dapper repos and then compile it in breezy?!
[12:16] <thoreauputic> zelevw: note the capital "F"
[12:16] <thoreauputic> important
[12:16] <Hendikins> Oh, and whilst I think of it, does the installation script for the realplayer package take care of the Mozilla plugin?
[12:16] <topyli> clast: enable dapper deb-src repository, run apt-get update and apt-get -b source banshee
[12:17] <topyli> clast: you'll end up with a package
[12:17] <taomaster> is there a easy way to install java?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: it appears to work with firefox
[12:17] <Madpilot> taomaster: yes
[12:17] <Madpilot> !tell taomaster about java
[12:18] <topyli> clast: before the build command, run apt-get build-depend banshee (i forgot)
[12:18] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Well, I don't have and can't procure Ubuntu for a quick test, so I have to ask these things
[12:18] <clast> topyli, i already did that (the build-dep
[12:19] <topyli> clast: if you didn't have dapper source repos enabled, apt got the build-deps against the breezy source
[12:19] <cvt|gnuyear> totem xine looks great
[12:19] <Hendikins> Ubuntu actually has users, which is why I'm adding a notes section for it and not debian
[12:19] <clast> topyli, alright! i got it
[12:20] <cafuego> Hendikins: rtfm n00b
[12:20] <topyli> clast: you might need to compile some dependencies before you can build banshee. if you get into a ridicilous dependency hell, you'll need to try something else
[12:21] <Hendikins> cafuego: I don't RTFM. I WTFM.
[12:21] <topyli> clast: don't start building half your system because of a stupid audio player :)
[12:21] <cafuego> well, UTFM then
[12:21] <actery> hi
[12:21] <actery> frohes neues jahr
[12:21] <actery> euch allen
[12:21] <jack-> dir auch
[12:21] <clast> topyli, yeah, it seems like the newest version requires a lot of stuff that isn't included in breezy
[12:21] <jack-> but plz stick to english and shit
[12:21] <topyli> clast: you may have to build mono
[12:21] <actery> kk
[12:22] <clast> topyli, did that
[12:22] <Hendikins> cafuego: and I'm asking about things that aren't made clear in the Ubuntu wiki, FYI
[12:22] <topyli> clast: and libdbus-cil
[12:22] <cafuego> Hendikins: In #debian tradition, what you aksed should in no way affect my response ;-)
[12:22] <clast> topyli, alright, you know what, this is getting ridiculous! ;) i just wanna get my ipod nano to work!
[12:23] <Hendikins> cafuego: I had the fun job of getting annoyed at #debian for sending all Firefox users upstream for support last night. Quite the experience, I must say.
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: you've started cafuego on a role play and he can't slip out of character now ;-)
[12:23] <Hendikins> With friends like that, who needs enemies?
[12:23] <topyli> clast: why not build the new rhythmbox then? it's supposed to work nicely with ipods
[12:23] <metho> hello good morning!
[12:23] <topyli> clast: saves you from fighting with mono
[12:23] <clast> topyli, you mean version 0.9.3?
[12:23] <cafuego> clast: The new Rhythmbox (from Dapper) does indeed work just dandy with iPods.
[12:23] <stark-johan> I'm also trying to get my ipod working by building the latest gtkpod.
[12:24] <metho> how do i install real player and windows media player plugin for mozilla firefox
[12:24] <cafuego> clast: 0.9.2
[12:24] <metho> and also flash player
[12:24] <clast> that'S what i meant
[12:24] <topyli> clast: i guess, whatever is latest in dapper
[12:24] <Pygi> ubotu tell metho about flash
[12:24] <dAndy> can I just state for th umpteenth time that I picked a poor name for highlighting purposes...
[12:24] <clast> cafuego, i'll try compiling that
[12:24] <topyli> clast: yes, i seem to have 0.9.2
[12:24] <cafuego> clast: I added daap support too, so it also sees the mt-daap iTunes server.
[12:24] <Pygi> ubotu tell metho about freeformats
[12:24] <Hendikins> cafuego: and for trivia value, I'm actually covering the subject metho was asking about :-)
[12:24] <clast> cafuego, sweet! :)
[12:25] <stark-johan> Seems like I have to upgrade to dapper to get the ipod working. Is dapper OK to run yet or is it unstable and wierd?
[12:26] <clast> cafuego, wtf? http://rhythmbox.sourceforge.net/download.html why is there only 0.8.5?
[12:26] <cafuego> clast: You will need: 'libavahi-client-dev libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common-dev libavahi-common3 libavahi-core-dev libavahi-core3 libavahi-glib-dev libavahi-glib1'
[12:26] <topyli> stark-johan: it's unstable and weird. if not today, they might break it tomorrow
[12:26] <cafuego> clast: Use a dapper deb-src line.
[12:26] <cafuego> clast: Avoid tarball.
[12:26] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: actually I'll modify what I said about the realplayer plugin - realplayer works fine for BBC radio and ABC radio (.au) - but I just realised they both use "players" of their own writing so I'm unsure on other streams
[12:26] <j2daosh> whats up people?
[12:26] <lynx> has anyone heard of something that cleans out temp files automatically
[12:27] <actery> nothing
[12:27] <Pygi> topyli: do not argue with dapper :P
[12:27] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Opening about:plugins will answer my question (and show a link to my site, if it hasn't been modified)
[12:27] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: you did your ubuntu install with installation cds?
[12:27] <xiaogil> what's the difference between kopete gaim and amsn ?
[12:27] <lynx> I guess it clears cookies and other temporary files
[12:27] <j2daosh> i have a question about installing a correct webcam driver (i.e- where to install it, why it gives me a bunch of errors with the Makefile script, etc.)
[12:27] <cafuego> lynx: `find' with a time param in a cron job.
[12:28] <Pygi> Lightenin: yesh....
[12:28] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: if you see an nphelix.so in the list and you know you didn't put it there yourself, that's a "Yes"
[12:28] <Pygi> xiaogil: gaim is worst of them all ;)
[12:28] <Pygi> Lightenin: why you ask?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: both totem and real plugins are there
[12:28] <lynx> I'm sorry, I'm new to all this lingo what do you mean?
[12:28] <stark-johan> topyli > so is there any way to get packages from dapper without actually upgrading? I noticed the libgpod exists as a dapper package but not in breezy.
[12:28] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: it's a real pity that I can't get my connection working on live-cd, can't install from it then
[12:29] <Pygi> Lightenin: huh :/
[12:29] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: as far as I can recall I didn't hack any files to get them in there
[12:29] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Right. Then that's a "Yes", and I'll procure information about totem (both for general and ubuntu sections)
[12:29] <Pygi> Lightenin; how are you on internet now?
[12:29] <topyli> stark-johan: yes, you can build breezy packages from dapper sources with apt
[12:29] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: I'm under win
[12:29] <j2daosh> !auto identify
[12:29] <ubotu> j2daosh: Not a clue
[12:29] <j2daosh> ...
[12:30] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: note that I'm using totem-xine, not totem-gstreamer - but I assume the default gstreamer one does the same
[12:30] <stark-johan> topyli > I have compiled libgpod from source but gtkpod can not find it, mayme it's better to use apt instead?
[12:30] <Pygi> Lightenin: you have your computer connected to router with a ethernet cable?
[12:30] <topyli> stark-johan: enable dapper dep-src repo for universe. apt-get update; apt-get build-dep rhythmbox; apt-get -b source rhythmbox
[12:30] <cafuego> stark-johan: Again, build the dapper gtkpod deb-src on breezy. Do not mess about with tarballs.
[12:30] <topyli> stark-johan: that version has ipod support
[12:31] <Hendikins> and whilst I'm being annoying, is there an i386 gflashplayer package in universe?
[12:31] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: correct, remember we talked about it yesterday, I got the same router that you have
[12:31] <j2daosh> anyone know how i can find the installed driver for an old webcam i have... kick it out and put a new one in?
[12:31] <Pygi> Lightenin: yesh, I know ....
[12:31] <topyli> stark-johan: or gtkpod as cafuego says
[12:31] <Draken> !quake4
[12:31] <ubotu> Draken: Are you smoking crack?
[12:31] <PeteyPablo> LOL
[12:31] <Draken> !quake
[12:31] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Draken
[12:31] <PeteyPablo> !botsnack
[12:31] <ubotu> :)
[12:31] <Sturgeon> !wtf
[12:31] <ubotu> wtf do you mean, sturgeon ?
[12:31] <Pygi> Sturgeon, stop it
[12:31] <Pygi> STOP ABUSING UBOTU
[12:31] <cafuego> topyli: Not quite, he needs to add '--enable-daap --enable-audioscrobbler' to debian/rules first.
[12:32] <Sturgeon> Hey, i just wtf'ed.
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: there's a GPL flash player ( not sure if its universe or multiverse) but I tried it without success on my iBook G4 (ppc)
[12:32] <cafuego> OR I WILL TURN HIM OFF
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: it just crashed firefox every time
[12:32] <Pygi> lower the caps cafuego
[12:32] <topyli> cafuego: dunno about daap (don't have an ipod) but i think i got audioscrobbler support by default
[12:33] <cafuego> topyli: daap is the zero-conf iTunes sharing service
[12:33] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: well, the wiki says universe... and that'd be gflashplayer
[12:33] <cafuego> topyli: .. just rebuilt mine a few hours ago.
[12:33] <PeteyPablo> how do i take a screenshot of one window?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> General Notice: Ubotu is cafuego's bot - so please pay attention to him
[12:33] <metho> i'm trying to install real-player and i am keeep getting this msg "The file /root/rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm does not exist" but i installed this through the synaptic
[12:33] <thegladiator> PeteyPablo, screensht is meant for screen as a whole
[12:33] <Madpilot> PeteyPablo: alt+PrntScrn
[12:33] <topyli> cafuego: oh. stark-johan, listen to cafuego rather than me since he has actually handled the ipod thing
[12:34] <PeteyPablo> i just want to take pictures of individual windows?
[12:34] <Hendikins> metho: Why are you trying to install RealPlayer 8?
[12:34] <stark-johan> topyli: yep, I am :-)
[12:34] <cafuego> topyli: Been playing music off my pod all afternoon :-)
[12:34] <Madpilot> thegladiator: try alt+Print Screen - you might be surprised :P
[12:34] <metho> hendikins: i dont know
[12:34] <topyli> :D
[12:34] <thegladiator> PeteyPablo, yes MadPilot is correct alt+print scrn
[12:35] <metho> hendikins: thats what came thorugh the synaptic
[12:35] <thegladiator> yes :) indeed i am
[12:35] <PeteyPablo> HOLY FUCKING SHIT, SOMONE I KNOW IS IN JAIL FOR MURDER
[12:35] <Draken> amaing :P
[12:35] <PeteyPablo> sorry for the language, it just freaked me out
[12:35] <stark-johan> just need to figure out how to work the apt-thingie. care to give me a few tips cafuego?
[12:35] <PeteyPablo> i jsut heardd it on the news
[12:35] <PeteyPablo> that mofo is in jail for murder.
[12:35] <Sturgeon> for murdering who?
[12:35] <PeteyPablo> i dont know
[12:35] <PeteyPablo> some guy
[12:35] <cafuego> stark-johan: add a deb-src line for dapper, then run 'sudo apt-get build-dep rhythmbox'
[12:35] <thegladiator> hell!
[12:35] <klaym> john lennon i suppose
[12:35] <PeteyPablo> lol
[12:36] <PeteyPablo> i always knew that kid was sick
[12:36] <cafuego> stark-johan: then 'sudo apt-get install libavahi-client-dev libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common-dev libavahi-common3 libavahi-core-dev libavahi-core3 libavahi-glib-dev libavahi-glib1'
[12:36] <j2daosh> ok... i got a dumb question that would really make it easy for me so i doubt it will work... if i add a url to a driver for a webcam that i have as a repo in my sources.list and then load up synaptic/apt-get and get that file will it automatically install it? im having problems figuring out how to get my intel cam to work and the spca driver isn't installing properly
[12:36] <cafuego> stark-johan: Then 'sudo apt-get source rhythmbox'
[12:36] <cafuego> stark-johan: Then cd into rhythmbox-0.9.2
[12:37] <stark-johan> cafuego > didn't you use gtkpod? (does it matter which one to use?)
[12:37] <cafuego> stark-johan: and edit debian/rules. Make sure the first DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS line contains '--with-ipod=yes --enable-daap --enable-audioscrobbler'. Then run 'fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -b'
[12:37] <cafuego> stark-johan: No, I use rhythmbox.
[12:37] <metho> hendikins: what do i need to do regarding the real-player
[12:38] <Hendikins> metho: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so I can only suggest checking the wiki
[12:38] <j2daosh> anyone?
[12:38] <stark-johan> cafuego > ok, thanks. I'll try it right away.
[12:38] <thoreauputic> metho: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats   and folloe the instructions there
[12:38] <dukebody> hello, could anybody help me? i'm having problems with my network configuration, i can't see my samba sharing folders
[12:38] <thoreauputic> *follow
[12:38] <metho> ok, thanks
[12:38] <thegladiator> Hendikins, which one do you use ? and what brings you here at #ubuntu ?
[12:39] <jahn> by
[12:39] <poningru> metho: you have couple of options
[12:39] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: he's writing some docs
[12:39] <thegladiator> i thought #ubuntu is purest channel for ubuntu talkz
[12:39] <thegladiator> cool
[12:39] <stark-johan> cafuego > erhm... how do I add a deb-src line for dapper?
[12:39] <poningru> metho: mplayer and couple of others play most real player encoded media
[12:39] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: well, we help people who are writing docs that might guide our users, right?
[12:40] <poningru> metho: but for complete support you would need the official player which is not half bad
[12:40] <Hendikins> thegladiator: I use SuSE Linux, and I'm adding ubuntu-specific notes to plugindoc.mozdev.org
[12:40] <thegladiator> very much . yes . his work is appreciated
[12:40] <poningru> metho: for more details:
[12:40] <foxiness> hi , i saw this http://www.stierand-linuxit.de/kinstaller/download.html , i want to know if there better than this or there one for gnome ?
[12:40] <thegladiator> Hendikins, nice
[12:40] <poningru> !tell metho  about restricted
[12:40] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: thank you , indeed :)
[12:40] <thegladiator> Hendikins, good work actually
[12:40] <Hendikins> That, and I'm also mildly interested to see how Firefox questions are triaged (given I was trolling #debian about that yesterday...)
[12:41] <dpmaxey> hello?
[12:41] <Hendikins> thegladiator: plugindoc needs a lot of work done to it, particularly for OSX and non-x86 Linux platforms.
[12:41] <metho> poningru: i have mplayer installed, i dont even need real player, i just want a real-player and windows media player plugin for playing online streams
[12:41] <dpmaxey> hello?
[12:41] <dukebody> please somebody could help me setting up my network? hello dpmaxey
[12:41] <phreak97> can someone send me subfont.ttf ? apparently its a font from mplayer
[12:41] <thegladiator> Hendikins, i know its some work . Good Luck :)
[12:41] <dpmaxey> what do u have for yer network?
[12:42] <thegladiator> hello dpmaxey
[12:42] <topyli> phreak97: you could probably get it by installling the mplayer-fonts package
[12:42] <dpmaxey> hey
[12:42] <phreak97> (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[12:42] <thegladiator> sup
[12:42] <poningru> metho: there is a mozilla mplayer plugin
[12:42] <phreak97> oh, maybe
[12:42] <Hendikins> thegladiator: I've only been torturing myself since 05/2002. The irony is that I hate plugins, and that I originally started with a cheat sheet for my own reference for Mozilla 0.9.x on Win32.
[12:42] <poningru> foxiness: sorry dude there is no gnome equivalent
[12:43] <TranceRiver> dukebody: I'd help you if I would know how (linux newbie here too), but just curious, what is your equipment? What router do you have?
[12:43] <metho> poningru: i have that installed but i cannot play any streams
[12:43] <dpmaxey> anybody know good iPod transfering program instead of gtkpod?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: I imagine you might get more definitive answers on the ubuntu-devel mailing list , if you haven't already
[12:43] <poningru> metho: what browser are you using?
[12:43] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: This is basic stuff that shouldn't need to go to -devel though.
[12:43] <poningru> metho: and what version?
[12:44] <Hendikins> I just don't have a test setup because I'm on dial-up, otherwise I'd just do all the looking myself.
[12:44] <foxiness> poningru, no problem ,TIA
[12:44] <dukebody> TranceRiver, i have a Comtrend 536+, but i'm having problems in my local network
[12:44] <topyli> foxiness: isn't something like kinstaller a bit useless? :)
[12:44] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: fair enough - agreed that mostly it is - I thought you might want more detail re: policy on firefox or whatever
[12:44] <metho> poningru: mozilla firefox 1.0.7
[12:44] <TranceRiver> Wish I could help you.
[12:44] <stark-johan> how do I add a deb-src line fot dapper?
[12:45] <dukebody> i can't see my samba sharing folders TranceRiver
[12:45] <foxiness> topyli, i think soo :) , but to know about something butter than not
[12:45] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: As long as the policy isn't "patch it to all hell then send the users upstream for support", it probably won't cause me any problems :-)
[12:45] <poningru> metho: hmm thats weird
[12:45] <PeteyPablo> can anyone tell me how to take a snapshot of one window?
[12:45] <thoreauputic> stark-johan: just copy your breezy source lines and change breezy to dapper
[12:45] <dpmaxey> iPod info anybody?
[12:45] <topyli> foxiness: surely. it doesn't seem to make packages though
[12:45] <poningru> metho: and can you download that stream and play it in mplayer?
[12:45] <topyli> foxiness: oh sorry, it does have an option to use checkinstall
[12:46] <metho> poningru: i havent tried downloading it (basically i do not know how to download stream so i just play it online)
[12:46] <dpmaxey> ?
[12:46] <alexissoft> hi
[12:46] <stark-johan> thoreauputic > what's my source lines?
[12:46] <clast> cafuego, when i try to get the rhythmbox source it says i need: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: docbook-utils (>= 0.6.11) gnome-pkg-tools libdbus-glib-1-dev (>= 0.60) liblircclient-dev libsoup2.2-dev libgpod-dev
[12:47] <thoreauputic> stark-johan: in /etc/apt/sources.list , the lines that have "src" in them at the beginning
[12:47] <topyli> stark-johan: in your sources.list file, the lines that begin with deb-src and not dep
[12:47] <foxiness> topyli, i dont using this before but i know about it from my frindes
[12:47] <clast> cafuego, and i don't think i can update dbus. or am i wrong?!
[12:47] <poningru> metho: right click on an empty portion of the webpage and go to page info
[12:47] <poningru> metho: there should be a media tab
[12:47] <poningru> metho: and look for any media that is embed
[12:48] <foxiness> topyli, i think autopackage on IMHO better than install something from source like .tgz
[12:48] <j2daosh> ok... i got a dumb question that would really make it easy for me so i doubt it will work... if i add a url to a driver for a webcam that i have as a repo in my sources.list and then load up synaptic/apt-get and get that file will it automatically install it? im having problems figuring out how to get my intel cam to work and the spca driver isn't installing properly
[12:48] <fluxim> i just have only the ubuntu standart install, wich plugins i need for totem to play an avi video?
[12:48] <metho> poningru: thanks, let me try now!
[12:48] <thoreauputic> stark-johan:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to edit the file ( or use your preferred editor)
[12:48] <topyli> clast run apt-get build-dep rhythmbox
[12:49] <xtlga> linux nightmare : install a printer and tvcard :(
[12:49] <stark-johan> yep, I'm looking at it but there's a few different lines including breezy.
[12:49] <poningru> metho: that should give you a save as option in the bottom right hand corner
[12:49] <topyli> foxiness: bah, let's rather build debian packages and keep our systems sane :)
[12:49] <clast> topyli,  Build-Depends dependency for rhythmbox cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libdbus-glib-1-dev can satisfy version requirements
[12:49] <foxiness> topyli, haha
[12:49] <poningru> metho: not sure about that last statement, that feature could be a 1.5 feature
[12:49] <topyli> clast: well, then you get to build that too
[12:50] <bimberi> ubotu tell fluxim about avi
[12:50] <clast> topyli, alright...:-/
[12:51] <topyli> clast: since you don't have to fiddle with the build options, you can just run apt-get build-dep  libdbus-glib-1-dev; and apt-get -b source libdbus-glib-1-dev
[12:51] <stark-johan> thoreauputic > is it this line I should copy to a dapper one? "deb-src http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted"
[12:52] <thoreauputic> stark-johan: that is one of them, yes - copy it and substitute dapper for breezy and add that at the bottom (assuming the source you want is in that branch)
[12:52] <j2daosh> hey bim
[12:53] <thoreauputic> stark-johan: you can do the same for universe etc
[12:53] <j2daosh> u know anything about webcams and drivers and adding a repo to do an easy install?
[12:53] <stark-johan> ok
[12:53] <bimberi> hey j2d :P
[12:53] <metho> poningru: ok little progress is made, i can hear the audio when i save it and play it, but i cannot see the video
[12:53] <kheel> hey all
[12:53] <bimberi> j2daosh: sorry no :(
[12:53] <thoreauputic> stark-johan: I'm assuming you want to compile a dapper package to work in breezy?
[12:53] <j2daosh> im trying to half ass an install of a driver because the manual dl/install aint working...
[12:54] <j2daosh> ok well lemme ask you this... if i have the url of a file/driver/tar... and i add that url to my repo list... what will happen?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: it won't work :)
[12:54] <j2daosh> will apt-get find that file and install it
[12:55] <bimberi> j2daosh: if it's just a url to a file - it won't work
[12:55] <mergest> hi
[12:55] <poningru> metho: hmm
[12:55] <thoreauputic> j2daosh: repo lists have a special structure
[12:55] <poningru> metho: it may be a vid that mplayer cannot play
[12:55] <j2daosh> dang... thats not what i wanted to hear
[12:55] <bimberi> j2daosh: what sort of file? - <something>.deb ?
[12:55] <poningru> metho: does the plugin behave the same for all real player media?
[12:55] <dukebody> please help me. I cant see my samba shared folders :(
[12:56] <j2daosh> nah its a stupid .tar.gz
[12:56] <metho> poningru: that wasnt real player media, it was .asf file
[12:56] <poningru> metho: oh hehe
[12:56] <Hendikins> Another one for the dumb questions basket: Where would I find a Flash 7.0r61 package for Ubuntu?
[12:56] <PeteyCrack> !imagemagick
[12:56] <ubotu> PeteyCrack: Are you smoking crack?
[12:56] <PeteyCrack> lol.
[12:56] <poningru> metho: .asf is restricted up the wazoo
[12:56] <PeteyCrack> can somone tell me how to start imagemagick?
[12:56] <stark-johan> thoreauputic > Yes, I'm trying to get a newer program so that my ipod will work.
[12:56] <thoreauputic> !info imagemagick
[12:56] <ubotu> imagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB
[12:56] <topyli> j2daosh: it's probably source and you'll have to build it. i don't recommend it if you can avoid it
[12:56] <j2daosh> well now it is just a folder with scripts in it
[12:57] <metho> poningru: up the wazoo?
[12:57] <poningru> metho: there is no way it will play its a microsoft format
[12:57] <metho> poningru: up the wazoo?
[12:57] <topyli> PeteyCrack: you don't start imagemagick. it's a collection of utilities
[12:57] <poningru> metho: to a very high degree
[12:57] <metho> poningru: but it can play .wmv
[12:57] <bimberi> j2daosh: look for a file called README or INSTALL
[12:57] <metho> poningru: but it can play .wmv?
[12:57] <PeteyCrack> can somone tell me how to start imagemagick?
[12:57] <topyli> PeteyCrack: what we usually want from imagemagick is convert
[12:57] <poningru> metho: yeah I know but asf is slightly different
[12:57] <j2daosh> lol top... i wouldn't recommend it either because i dont even understand how to "build" something lol
[12:57] <mergest> I've got a problem with my evolution mail client: I want to save mails in different folders. I've configurated 3 several mail adresses and i want to save the mails in serveral mailboxes and not all mails in one inbox. can anybody help me with this stupid problem? :)
[12:57] <thoreauputic> PeteyCrack: try "isplay"
[12:58] <poningru> metho: also the latest wmv cannot be played iirc
[12:58] <PeteyCrack> i just want to take a picture of individual windows..
[12:58] <dukebody> Could anybody please help me configuring my network?? please
[12:58] <j2daosh> bim... yeah i found those files but when i run the install script it gives me errors and junk...
[12:58] <topyli> PeteyCrack: use "import"
[12:58] <thoreauputic> PeteyCrack:  import is the command you want
[12:58] <poningru> PeteyCrack: you mean screenshots of individual windows?
[12:58] <PeteyCrack> poningru: yes
[12:58] <metho> poningru: i see, no problem!
[12:58] <bimberi> j2daosh: ... which you've pasted where?
[12:59] <poningru> PeteyCrack: you can always use gimp
[12:59] <thoreauputic> PeteyCrack: read man imagemagick - or better, the html docs linked from it
[12:59] <thoreauputic> bimberi: heh - evidently not ;)
[12:59] <atlas> hello everybody
[12:59] <dukebody> hello atlas
[12:59] <thoreauputic> OK must go now... bye
[12:59] <atlas> someone have the suspend2 patch?
[12:59] <dukebody> atlas, could yo help me configuring my network??
[12:59] <bimberi> nn thoreauputic
[01:00] <atlas> i have some probleme with module and it
[01:00] <mergest> hmm
[01:00] <j2daosh> lol no where yet... gimme a sec and ill smack the link up here
[01:00] <atlas> hmm, i'm not sure dukebody
[01:00] <PeteyCrack> poningru: how do i take a picture of an individual window with gimp?
[01:00] <atlas> i french and n000b to , i can try if you want..
[01:00] <dukebody> i'm having problems browsing my samba shared folders
[01:01] <clast> topyli, will apt-get -b source libdbus-glib-1-dev also install the package?
[01:01] <dukebody> i'm having problems with my network configuration, atlas
[01:01] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6483
[01:01] <atlas> i can't help you i don't use samba :D sorry dukebody
[01:01] <topyli> clast: no, it will leave the package in the current directory
[01:01] <PeteyPablo> poningru: got it.
[01:01] <topyli> clast: run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:01] <dukebody> please, could anybody help me with samba and network configuarion???
[01:01] <clast> topyli, yeah, but where is the package?
[01:02] <j2daosh> id help ya duke but i haven't set mine up yet... pashaw told me to setup a vpn and then just setup samba
[01:02] <mergest> nobody works with evolution?
[01:02] <topyli> clast: in the same directory where you built it
[01:02] <poningru> PeteyCrack are you PeteyPablo ?
[01:02] <PeteyPablo> poningru: yea
[01:02] <poningru> cool
[01:02] <PeteyPablo> poningru: i'm not sure why i have 2 clients on
[01:02] <mergest> blub
[01:02] <PeteyCrack> poningru: lol
[01:02] <clast> topyli, ;) oh crap, it just see my desktop is full of dbus packages!
[01:03] <topyli> clast: :)
[01:03] <Hendikins> Well, I've gone looking for Flash 7.0r61 Ubuntu packages, and I seem to be drawing a blank. What's the situation there?
[01:04] <j2daosh> ok... ill be back in a minute i gotta help a dude with a winblows box
[01:05] <Bizzeh> hey, i donwloaded and burned kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso, when i boot with it, it asks me what language and screen resolutions i want, then it does a little graphical boot thing, then just gives me a console
[01:05] <Bizzeh> what happened to the installer
[01:05] <Bizzeh> ?
[01:05] <clast> topyli, okay, this is kinda scary, it changes so many dbus things: libdbus-glib-1-dev conflicts with dbus-1-utils (<< 0.50-2)
[01:05] <clast>   dbus-1-utils (version 0.36.2-0ubuntu7) is installed.
[01:05] <bimberi> j2daosh: looks like that INSTALL file is (as is usually the case) a file with instuctions to install
[01:05] <phreak97> where do i put mplayer skins to use them?
[01:05] <topyli> clast: you're trying to install them all at the same time?
[01:05] <phreak97> i dont care
[01:06] <phreak97> how do install them?
[01:06] <clast> topyli, no only libdbus-glib-dev
[01:06] <phreak97> one at a time or otherwise
[01:06] <phreak97> doesnt matter
[01:06] <Toma-> phreak97: /usr/share/mplayer/SKin
[01:06] <Toma-> err
[01:06] <Toma-> phreak97: /usr/share/mplayer/Skin
[01:06] <PeteyPablo> http://www.demonlegion.net/private/Mace/linux/panel.bmp now thats pretty
[01:06] <phreak97> thanks
[01:06] <topyli> clast: cd to Desktop, and do "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[01:07] <clast> oh isee
[01:07] <topyli> clast: so you'll have a matching set of dbus packages
[01:07] <phreak97> Toma-, i dont really have rights to that
[01:07] <topyli> clast: and hope they don't conflict with something more fundamental :)
[01:07] <phreak97> how are you meant to go about installing them
[01:08] <Toma-> phreak97: for a global setting, just put them in there. otherwise, id say you could use ~/.mplayer/Skin
[01:08] <Toma-> just mkdir
[01:08] <clast> topyli, i just did "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" and there is a crap load of dependency errors! i think i just give!
[01:08] <Hobbsee> clast: pastebin the errors then
[01:09] <topyli> clast: what dependencies do they break?
[01:09] <thirst> when I try to mount a partition on my second disk(hdb), I get this error "mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /second busy" when either of those are not true.. any clues
[01:09] <topyli> clast: i know i did build rhythmbox recently, and the dependencies weren't so bad after all
[01:09] <Hobbsee> thirst: double check your fstab, just to see?
[01:09] <clast> topyli, you're using breezy?
[01:10] <topyli> clast: yes
[01:10] <thirst> Hobbsee: i did .. "mount|grep hdb" gives me no output
[01:10] <phreak97> Toma-,  thanks
[01:10] <clast> topyli, Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/487029
[01:10] <Hobbsee> thirst: paste your /etc/fstab to pastebin?
[01:10] <topyli> clast: probably the dbus packages just need something else still. so you'll build those :)
[01:10] <Toma-> phreak97: no probs
[01:11] <clast> topyli, i guess i need to get rid of dbus-utils
[01:12] <topyli> clast: is a new dbus-utils among the dbus packages you just built?
[01:12] <thirst> Hobbsee: i don't see u in #pastebin
[01:12] <j2daosh> ok... uhh... lol bim... imma post what the install file says to do... then if you could... put it in plain english.. i think it says i have to compile something. if thats the case... lol well lets just say i dont need the cam working that bad lol
[01:12] <Hobbsee> !tell thirst about pastebin
[01:12] <Hobbsee> thirst: that pastebin!
[01:12] <thirst> Hobbsee: ok..
[01:13] <clast> topyli, yes
[01:13] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6484
[01:13] <topyli> clast: try installing just that first (don't remove the old one just yet)
[01:13] <j2daosh> oh that sucks
[01:14] <fluxim> i just have only the ubuntu standart install, wich plugins i need for totem to play an avi video?
[01:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fluxim about multimedia
[01:14] <aeon17x> How do I view the storage capacity of the CD in my CD drive?
[01:14] <tag> I'm setting up my little sisters laptop so it will be *ultra* easy to use.  When I pop in a dvd player, totem starts up and throws an error saying it cannot read from the DVD
[01:14] <Bizzeh> aeon17x: 700mb
[01:14] <thirst> Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6485
[01:14] <Bizzeh> thats the max capacity of a cd
[01:15] <taomaster> can i install fluxbox in ubuntu?
[01:15] <j2daosh> ok can someone who knows the linux lingo look at the pastebin link i just put up there and tell me if what it is asking me to do is compile something or some type of like programming thing? cuz yeah... i dont know hot to do that and i dont need the webcam that bad
[01:15] <hyakuhei> Bizzeh: no its not, there are many different standards/sizes, i can think of 3 off the top of my head
[01:15] <taomaster> well it run?
[01:15] <hyakuhei> taomaster: sure can, openbox is more standards complient though
[01:15] <Kindred> !fluxbox
[01:15] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[01:15] <john_> Does anyone know how I can install firefox 1.5 onto Ubuntu?
[01:15] <tag> what would someone suggest to make it simple to play DVD's?
[01:15] <Hobbsee> !tell john_ about firefox1.5
[01:15] <aeon17x> Bizzeh: I've seen CDs with 650, 700, and 800.
[01:15] <john_> thanks
[01:16] <topyli> clast: seems to me that update-notifier is the most important package depending on dbus-1-utils (on my system), and it doesn't specify a version
[01:16] <Hobbsee> thirst: that's weird...
[01:16] <Bizzeh> aeon17x: the standard is 700, 650's arnt made any more, and 800's are rare
[01:16] <hyakuhei> aeon17x: do you want to know about blank writable CD's or normal printed CD's?
[01:16] <tag> !tell tag about playing dvds
[01:16] <aeon17x> Blank ones.
[01:17] <tag> fucca
[01:17] <hyakuhei> Im not sure about that, sorry
[01:17] <Bizzeh> does anyone know of any problems with the installer on amd64?
[01:17] <thirst> Hobbsee: do you see any trouble ?
[01:17] <clast> topyli, okay...this seems to me like a vicious circle. every dbus package depends on another one etc
[01:17] <aeon17x> Maybe I'll just go to the safe way and think that it's a 700MB CD.
[01:17] <tag> ooohh
[01:17] <topyli> clast: ok, see what would be removed if you remove dbus-1-utils with apt-get
[01:17] <hyakuhei> aeon17x: I know k3b can figure it out, and thats just a wrapper to the normal cdroasting suite, so look at cdrecord etc
[01:17] <thegladiator> you could check it with k3b i guess . cd info can be found out
[01:18] <Hobbsee> thirst: no, but i suddenly feel terrible, so everythings' a bit hard to do at the moment - i might have missed it
[01:18] <Bizzeh> i donwloaded and burned kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso, when i boot with it, it asks me what language and screen resolutions i want, then it does a little graphical boot thing, then just gives me a console
[01:18] <Bizzeh> how would i manualy start the installer?
[01:19] <sander> how do I upgrade from hoary to breezy in aptitude?
[01:20] <clast> topyli, it's a lot! like hal-device-manager and the update-notifier and various dbus packages
[01:20] <j2daosh> bizzeh... what do u mean start the installer?
[01:20] <Bizzeh> the ubuntu "graphical" installer
[01:21] <Bizzeh> so i can install the os
[01:21] <j2daosh> and what little graphical thing? is this a live cd or a full install cd?
[01:21] <Bizzeh> full install cd
[01:21] <Bizzeh> dvd
[01:21] <Bizzeh> its the blue "ubuntu" logo with the progress bar and the text telling you what its doin
[01:21] <topyli> clast: i have the same dbus-1-utils installed that your new dbus is trying to remove
[01:21] <topyli> :\
[01:22] <clast> topyli, weird! well, how can i get everything undone?
[01:22] <j2daosh> ok so u pop in the cd... restart the comp... it does its install thing and then after it "completes?", it takes you to a console?
[01:22] <topyli> clast: i also have dbus 0.3 and not the 0.6 you're installing
[01:23] <topyli> clast: no need, nothing has been done :)
[01:23] <Bizzeh> ok, i pop in the dvd, reboot, i get the "what language do you want" "what locale do you want"
[01:23] <Bizzeh> then it asks me what resolution i want
[01:23] <j2daosh> ok
[01:23] <Bizzeh> then it shows the blue "ubuntu" logo in the middle of the screen
[01:23] <clast> clast, but rhythmbox needs 0.6, and yeah synaptic says i have 6 broken packages! which are all dbus packages
[01:23] <j2daosh> so good so far
[01:23] <clast> i meant topyli
[01:23] <Bizzeh> after it gets to HP printing stuff
[01:23] <Bizzeh> it stops
[01:23] <Bizzeh> and goes to a console
[01:23] <pinucset> is there any emule for kde? something like kmule :S
[01:24] <j2daosh> ....hmmm.
[01:24] <Bizzeh> processor is a amd64 x2 4200
[01:24] <Bizzeh> 1gb ddr400
[01:24] <j2daosh> check and see if the gui is installed by hitting alt f7
[01:24] <topyli> clast: run sudo apt-get -f install to fix broken packages
[01:24] <Bizzeh> nforce4 chipset
[01:24] <j2daosh> or ctrl alt f7
[01:24] <topyli> clast: just apt-get -f install with no packages defined
[01:24] <Bizzeh> pci-e ati radeon x700
[01:24] <j2daosh> one of those
[01:25] <Bizzeh> reboot and find out now?
[01:25] <Bizzeh> gimme 2 mins
[01:25] <j2daosh> no... u can just hit the ctrl +alt + f7
[01:25] <j2daosh> or alt+ f7
[01:25] <j2daosh> see if it gives you a gui
[01:25] <j2daosh> man
[01:25] <clast> topyli, http://pastebin.com/487036
[01:26] <topyli> clast: let me see if rhythmbox's versin requirements have changed
[01:26] <prolli> hey guys
[01:26] <Draken> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:26] <j2daosh> hey prolli
[01:26] <Draken>             CAN SOMEONE HELP ME FIx this ? ta
[01:26] <prolli> is anyone here feeling to know about the package structure in dapper?
[01:26] <j2daosh> well im not an expert... but i think u might need to go get that lib from somewhere
[01:26] <topyli> clast: hrm. needs fixing
[01:27] <apokryphos> Draken: please drop the caps.
[01:27] <j2daosh> prolli... are u saying your gonna explain it to someone or your asking for it to be explained to you?
[01:27] <clast> topyli, well, i just did it. we'll see what's gonna happen
[01:28] <greenpenguin13> Draken: have you got the SDL libs installed?
[01:28] <prolli> j2daosh, explaining to me. i have problems installing the libgtkglextmm1-dev through apt-get
[01:28] <Draken> nope greenpenguin13 , but i dontr where to get
[01:28] <Toma-> Draken: Some Debian and Debian-based distributions ( like Ubuntu ) are crashing during startup. It appears this is caused by the SDL packages selection. You need to install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead of libsdl1.2debian-all.
[01:28] <topyli> clast: you'll need to reinstall  tomboy, update-notifier after that, they will be removed
[01:28] <j2daosh> oh... lol no i dont know anything about it... i was hoping you were gonna explain it to me :)
[01:28] <clast> topyli, i know
[01:29] <prolli> j2daosh ;)
[01:29] <greenpenguin13> Draken: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-oss
[01:29] <clast> topyli, thanks for trying to help me. i gotta go now! :)
[01:29] <Happuf> How do i extract .tar.gz in console?
[01:29] <tronix> How do I install ucspi-tcp? It's in multiverse and I've got multiverse listed for us.archive.ubuntu.com in sources.list but can't fetch it?
[01:29] <Draken> ta green
[01:29] <topyli> clast: then you might as well try installling your new dbus packages :)
[01:29] <topyli> clast: before installing those
[01:29] <clast> topyli, i'll try that
[01:29] <Draken> err greenpenguin13
[01:29] <Draken> its installed
[01:30] <topyli> clast: rhythmbox does indeed need the new dbus. things have changed in dapper
[01:30] <greenpenguin13> lol thats weird
[01:30] <Toma-> Draken: libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[01:30] <deko> haloo
[01:30] <topyli> clast: my build still went well with the old one
[01:30] <Draken> k ta toma
[01:30] <clast> topyli, but i think some apps will have a problem with a new version of dubs, since they are compiled against the older version
[01:30] <Toma-> Draken: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82837.html
[01:30] <tronix> Happuf: tar zxf filename.tar.gz ?
[01:30] <clast> dbus
[01:30] <deko> Jm 1 st time of line
[01:30] <Happuf> tronix: thanks I'll try.
[01:30] <deko> haloo
[01:30] <deko> haloo
[01:30] <topyli> clast: you'll see when you try to install the new one and then those two packages
[01:31] <deko> haloo
[01:31] <Toma-> Draken: also, try running  ./quake4 +set s_driver oss
[01:31] <binary> hello
[01:31] <clast> topyli, okay, i really have to go! thank you again :) i might come back to you for some more help and to tell you if it worked
[01:31] <topyli> later
[01:31] <clast> bye
[01:33] <sexcopter8000m> is there a list of apps that are covered by backports?
[01:33] <tronix> ucspi-tcp's in the pool for multiverse:
[01:33] <tronix> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/u/ucspi-tcp/
[01:33] <tronix> but can't seem to fetch it via apt-get
[01:33] <tronix> wondering if I'm missing something simple?
[01:33] <Bizzeh> when i alt+f7 i just get a black screen
[01:34] <j2daosh> what about ctrl+alt+f7
[01:34] <Bizzeh> same
[01:34] <Toma-> Bizzeh: whats your point/problem?
[01:34] <j2daosh> ok go back to f1 screen
[01:34] <Azuregos>  
[01:34] <topyli> tronix: that's a directory see what the actual packages are called
[01:34] <tronix> ahhh
[01:35] <Bizzeh> j2daosh: its this system, so i gotta keep rebooting
[01:35] <j2daosh> toma... he is trying to install kubuntu and it sounds like it is hanging during the install
[01:35] <tronix> so I must not be specifying the right source in sources.list. okay.
[01:35] <Bizzeh> when i go back it gives me the same console again
[01:35] <j2daosh> bizz... u shouldn't have to reboot
[01:35] <Azuregos> hi pediki !!!!
[01:35] <Bizzeh> j2daosh: im in windows now
[01:35] <phreak97> what video players do people recommend?
[01:35] <Bizzeh> so i can use irc
[01:35] <Toma-> Bizzeh: to get back to X, you need ctl-alt-f8
[01:35] <topyli> tronix: actually, there seem to be no packages there
[01:35] <Toma-> sometimes...
[01:35] <phreak97> Bizzeh, use xchat under linux
[01:36] <phreak97> for irc
[01:36] <apokryphos> phreak97: xine, kaffeine, totem, vlc -- take your pick
[01:36] <Bizzeh> phreak97: gladly, if i can get linux to install
[01:36] <topyli> tronix: they're probably just planning, "some day we'll build a package for dapper, from these sources"
[01:36] <phreak97> oh lol
[01:36] <j2daosh> ok bizz... u do know xchat comes for windows 2...
[01:36] <tronix> topyli: hrmm interesting. see what you mean. hmm. I'll probably do it from sources then :) thanks!!
[01:36] <phreak97> Bizzeh, does it loop at setting the user account?
[01:36] <Bizzeh> j2daosh: yeah but its crap
[01:36] <Toma-> Bizzeh: why wont kubuntu install?
[01:37] <topyli> tronix: since the debianized sources are there, you can probably build a package quite easily
[01:37] <tronix> topyli: ah! point. groovy -- I'll go hit the manual for package building. :) (I've been using Ubuntu for about 3 hours now, but saw it in docs earlier -- looks slick)
[01:37] <phreak97> apokryphos, which do you use?
[01:37] <j2daosh> ok... just wanted to make sure u knew... ok... one thing ur saying is confusing me... ur on windows but your trying to switch screens? or u are on a windows box and your trying to switch your ubuntu screens (different computer completely)
[01:38] <topyli> tronix: search for apt-howto
[01:38] <apokryphos> phreak97: Kaffeine only, but they're all ok.
[01:38] <athlon> Guys, I could use some help, I think the admins are blocking access to ubuntu.com, internet connection work fine but it simply cant access anything from ubuntu.com
[01:38] <Bizzeh> ok, it asks for language and locale, then does a load of checking the system and dvd, then asks me for the resolution.. then gives me the black kubuntu loader with the blue logo with the pos bar with the text telling me what its doin, it gets to hp printing and imaging then drops to a console and sits and does nothing
[01:38] <phreak97> well ill grab that and see, cos mplayer isnt being what i want it to be
[01:38] <tronix> topyli: thanks again!
[01:38] <athlon> could  someone tell me where I can  download proftp and proftpd-common package for breezy ?
[01:38] <Goshawk> how can i say to ubuntu to don't mont the winxp parttion at boot, but mount it if i want to?
[01:38] <Bizzeh> its kubuntu-5.10-dvd-amd64.iso
[01:39] <phreak97> apokryphos, im using gnome, does that matter?
[01:39] <Goshawk> athlon, apt-get?
[01:39] <apokryphos> phreak97: nope
[01:39] <phreak97> says its for kde 3
[01:39] <athlon> Goshawk,  doesnt work it stil tried to access ubuntu.com
[01:39] <tronix> goshawk: something like this in /etc/fstab:  /dev/foo1 /winxp ntfs  noauto  0   0
[01:39] <j2daosh> it didn't ask you for your keyboard layout... didn't mention anything about partitioning ur drive.... nothing?
[01:40] <Bizzeh> none of that
[01:40] <Goshawk> athlon, so your internet connection isnot good, try to do ping www.google.com in terminal and paste the 1-3 lines of output
[01:40] <Goshawk> tronix, thx
[01:40] <athlon> it works fine, just have to go through proxy
[01:40] <athlon> and I did set apt-get to use http_proxy
[01:40] <tronix> Goshawk: 'noauto' is the magic keyword; won't automatically mount
[01:41] <topyli> tronix: chapter 6 is what you want
[01:41] <j2daosh> ok... hold on... cuz i think ur trying to install a "live" version... if it was actually going to install it would ask you about partitioning information
[01:41] <mjr> 32
[01:41] <Goshawk> if it doesn't work it has a connection problem
[01:41] <mjr> oops
[01:41] <athlon> it just acting weirdly snce about two days ago, somtimes it work, most of the time it doesnt.
[01:41] <tronix> topyli: thanks again :) bringing up now
[01:41] <phreak97> how come things say theyre made for kde but still work under gnome?
[01:41] <Bizzeh> j2daosh: well this is the installer iso
[01:41] <athlon> I am downloading torrent, irc-ing, IM-ing, web surfing just fine
[01:42] <athlon> as I said, the proxy admin probably block access to ubuntu.com or something
[01:42] <Bizzeh> http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/ <<< i got breezy-dvd-amd64.iso from there
[01:42] <Goshawk> athlon, i can give you a link where you can download by http
[01:42] <Goshawk> but its not good
[01:42] <athlon> that would be great, thank you
[01:42] <athlon> why not ?
[01:43] <Goshawk> athlon, since ubuntu needs apt-get working for upgrading
[01:43] <Goshawk> athlon, hold on
[01:43] <athlon> if its a deb package, I could just dpkg -i <package> no ?
[01:43] <Goshawk> athlon, yep
[01:44] <Goshawk> athlon, but maybe it needs dependencies
[01:44] <Bizzeh> actualy, i didnt
[01:44] <Goshawk> and only apt-get can solte them
[01:44] <Bizzeh> i ftp'ed into that server and got it from "/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/releases/breezy/release/"
[01:44] <Goshawk> athlon, add sudo
[01:44] <athlon> aptitude says it only needs proftpd and proftpd-common
[01:44] <j2daosh> im looking at that site now...
[01:44] <Goshawk> athlon, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all&keywords=proftp&sourceid=mozilla-search
[01:44] <santoranz> hay alguna mujer
[01:44] <phreak97> whats kaffeine part, and why was it not found?
[01:45] <ibmnotebook> i receive thousands of packages with airsnort but i do not get any WEP password of 5 different wlans
[01:45] <Goshawk> athlon, use packages.ubuntu.com to locate packages and download the debs
[01:45] <Pygi> !ati
[01:45] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:45] <Goshawk> ibmnotebook, can airsnort steal wep password?
[01:46] <athlon> Goshawk, hehe, exactly my problem there. Cant connect to ubuntu.com
[01:46] <Draken> where can i find id.so.conf
[01:46] <Draken> ?
[01:46] <ibmnotebook> Goshawk I think so?!
[01:46] <Goshawk> athlon, so follow Bizzeh directive
[01:46] <kevinz> i remove gaim package and install gaim-2.0 by downloading the source and compiling it.. I wonder what should i do with this manually installed programs. Could I remove it when I want to install higher version gaim or want to apt-get gaim?
[01:46] <wizardjames> whats a good p2p client?  (something better then limewire)
[01:47] <Goshawk> athlon, get a mirror enter to it and download the package by hand
[01:47] <Draken> where can i find id.so.conf?
[01:47] <sire1> maye anyone knows what alternative tool exists on windows system like linux has ifconfig?
[01:47] <Goshawk> or add a ubuntu mirror that's not ubuntu.com in your sources.list
[01:47] <athlon> !mirror
[01:47] <ubotu> [mirror]  repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:47] <athlon> I hate that
[01:47] <Stew_Lappy> sire1 - ipconfig
[01:47] <athlon> ubotu told me to check wiki.ubuntu.com :-)
[01:47] <ubotu> athlon: I haven't a clue
[01:47] <Goshawk> ibmnotebook, i never used it, but if it do it and it works i should use it :D
[01:47] <sire1> Stew_Lappy: thanks
[01:47] <athlon> chicken and Egg !
[01:47] <Goshawk> athlon, there is google
[01:48] <Goshawk> athlon, find a ubuntu mirror and add it to sources.list
[01:49] <j2daosh> it looks like a good install .iso.... i dont know why its not trying o actually install though. is there any difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[01:49] <tronix> gawd, this is great... 'apt-get -b source ucspi-tcp && dpkg -i ucspi-tcp_0.88-9_i386.deb' and I'm in business.
[01:49] <Goshawk> athlon, or access to it trought a internet proxy: you ---> your proxy ----> free proxy on internet ---> ubuntu.com
[01:49] <ibmnotebook> Goshawk ok i'll tell you, maybe tomorrow
[01:49] <Goshawk> ibmnotebook, :D i'm already downloading it
[01:50] <Bizzeh> j2daosh: kubuntu installs kde instead of gnome when it comes to install the gui later
[01:50] <vws> hello
[01:50] <j2daosh> ahh...so that is why it is 300+ megs bigger then ubuntu... i was wondering about that
[01:51] <athlon> ah, it worked when I specify in sources.list only to use us.ubuntu.com instead of just ubuntu.com
[01:51] <athlon> guess the local mirror of ubuntu.com is down or not properly configured
[01:51] <ibmnotebook> how to install an enhanced desktop on an easy way?
[01:51] <Goshawk> athlon, :D good
[01:51] <Goshawk> athlon, now an apt-get :D
[01:52] <topyli> tronix: yes it is :)
[01:52] <kevinz> If i could not use apt-get to install certain program but make and make install it, do i have to remove it also when i install a new version>
[01:52] <j2daosh> i dont know why ur install is hanging at the hp part...i dont know why its not asking about the drive partitions or how much the swap should be or anything about the 3 button mouse...
[01:53] <j2daosh> somethings not going right though because the language, keyboard, partitions should be the first things to be setup right after it does a disk check and starts the kernel from dvd
[01:53] <Goshawk> lunch time, bye
[01:54] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping
[01:54] <Pygi> athlon: no, the mirrors are NOT down
[01:54] <j2daosh> be back in a few minutes
[01:55] <athlon> shrug, dunno then. everything work expect when I try to access ubuntu.com without specyfing us.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <Draken> where can i find id.so.conf?
[01:56] <athlon> whew, at last ! it worked
[01:56] <Toma-> Draken: you mean ld.so.conf ?
[01:56] <Draken> ya
[01:56] <Toma-> /etc/ld.so.conf
[01:56] <Hendikins> KarlosII: I show up in the strangest of places, don't I?
[01:56] <KarlosII> lol
[01:56] <phreak97> can i do an action as super user without using console?
[01:57] <athlon> I had to SSH to an AIX server, compile a bittorrent client in AIX, change the Python Module Path, download the movie through bittorrent, install proftpd, then put the downloaded movie to my computer using ftp
[01:57] <zamuro> I'm trying to install a data cable on breezy, but seems like not dettected... In fact, nothing happens after I lsusb... any suggestions?
[01:57] <athlon> all that for a porn movie
[01:57] <KarlosII> Hendikins: just installing ubuntu on my house box which all comps will network too
[01:58] <KarlosII> gotta configure fw as well on that box
[01:58] <KarlosII> install nx
[01:58] <Pygi> !patience
[01:58] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[01:58] <KarlosII> and setup a web server
[01:58] <KarlosII> ie gallery
[01:59] <Hendikins> gallery? I use album.pl myself
[01:59] <KarlosII> I really like gallery personally
[02:00] <zamuro> I'm trying to install a data cable on breezy, but seems like not dettected... In fact, nothing happens after I lsusb... any suggestions?
[02:00] <Hendikins> KarlosII: My main reason for using album.pl is that it was fairly painless to set up, and simple enough. Example: http://www.hendikins.id.au/cgi-bin/album.pl?album=nsw/sydney/nye-05
[02:01] <Toma-> zamuro: data cable to what?
[02:01] <KarlosII> i c but not as much features, and my backup is for gallery
[02:01] <zamuro> Toma-: To a Sony Ericsson mobile
[02:01] <mullemeck> I just installed pro-ftpd, but I can't seem to login. Is there anything I need to do to enable login for system users?
[02:02] <Toma-> zamuro: i dunno how the phone works, put do you need to press sync or connect or something?
[02:02] <Stormx2> ok, how do I run commands on startup?
[02:02] <wizardjames> Stormx2,  , system> prefs>sessions>startup
[02:03] <Toma-> Stormx2: what kind of commands?
[02:03] <Stormx2> Cheers
[02:03] <wizardjames> i think
[02:03] <zamuro> Toma-: It's not that... the cable seems not to be detected... I use lsusb and shows only usb devices i _know_ are also connected.
[02:03] <Toma-> zamuro: the cable is a cable. you dont need drivers for a cable
[02:03] <topyli> zamuro: phones and linux don't necessarily get along very well. you might be in for a good googling session
[02:03] <wizardjames> whats the free chat ubuntu room?
[02:03] <ArXoniK> hi, i have an absolutely n00b question, how do u uninstall programes u compiled from source and installed via make install script?
[02:03] <Toma-> wizardjames: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:04] <zamuro> topyli: Been weeks doin that
[02:04] <topyli> zamuro: i know i never had a phone that would work with linux without some fiddling
[02:04] <Stormx2> wizardjames: #ubuntu-offtopic i think
[02:04] <Toma-> ArXoniK: you cant. thats why you using "checkinstall" instead of make install
[02:04] <wizardjames> yep, thanks
[02:04] <topyli> zamuro: and they say it should work?
[02:04] <phreak97> phreak97@phreak:~/.libdvdcss-1.2.9$ sudo make install
[02:04] <phreak97> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[02:04] <phreak97> what does that mean?
[02:04] <Toma-> phreak97: means you cant make install
[02:05] <Stormx2> phreak97: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:05] <ArXoniK> Toma-: so i just delete all the files that were copied over various places in the /
[02:05] <zamuro> topyli: Actually, I found an application wich seems to sync the phone... But worths nothing if I can't get the cable do something else than a USB charger :S
[02:05] <NewIRC> when is the next version of ubuntu out ?
[02:05] <Stormx2> zamuro: What phone?
[02:06] <Toma-> ArXoniK: yep. OR, get checkinstall from apt-get, then go back into your source dir, and run re-make it and run checkinstall instead of make install. then use apt-get to remove the package name thats created
[02:06] <zamuro> Stormx2: A Sony Ericsson t230
[02:06] <ArXoniK> Toma-: thanks a loads ;)
[02:06] <Stormx2> zamuro: Are you trying to use multisync?
[02:06] <topyli> NewIRC: august
[02:06] <Toma-> ArXoniK: good luck with it :D
[02:06] <NewIRC> good thanks topyli :)
[02:07] <Toma-> phreak97: what did the make command actually make?
[02:07] <zamuro> Stormx2: OK... Now you're talking new stuff to me... Can you explain to me that?
[02:07] <Toma-> what file/s?
[02:07] <Stormx2> zamuro: Multisync is usually lot a what of syncing is done with
[02:08] <Stormx2> zamuro: its an application
[02:08] <phreak97> Stormx2,  was right Toma-
[02:08] <zamuro> OK... I'm already apt-get'in it
[02:08] <Toma-> hu?
[02:08] <Stormx2> phreak97: Hmm?
[02:08] <LordLucless> Im getting a really wierd intermittent error in X on Ubuntu
[02:08] <Stormx2> Oh right yeah =)
[02:09] <phreak97> it was Stormx2 phreak97: sudo apt-get install build-essential thats for the libdvd thing isnt it?
[02:09] <LordLucless> Every couple of days, my mouse starts drifting downwards, and keyboard stops responding
[02:09] <LordLucless> Actually, I think it might more be gnome than X. Not sure
[02:09] <Stormx2> build-essential installs what you need for building packages (make and such)
[02:09] <zamuro> Stormx2: But, the problem is not about syncing... It's about ubuntu ain't dettecting the device
[02:09] <Toma-> phreak97: that error you posted means the makefile has no "make install" part.
[02:09] <LordLucless> Anyway, if I logout and login again, the problem is fixed
[02:09] <Stormx2> LordLucless: Sounds like X to me. Not sure whats causing it, though
[02:10] <Toma-> meaning, build-essential wont help you
[02:10] <phreak97> Toma-, what do i do then?
[02:10] <LordLucless> Stormx2, yeah, the only reason I think it might be gnome is that logging in/out just restarts gnome doesnt it, it doesnt restart X?
[02:10] <zamuro> phreak97: What u tryin to do?
[02:10] <Stormx2> LordLucless: I think it does
[02:10] <Toma-> phreak97: tell me what the ouput from "make" was with a pastebin
[02:10] <phreak97> install libdvdcss
[02:10] <LordLucless> Hmm, ok
[02:10] <Toma-> output
[02:10] <Toma-> no
[02:11] <Stormx2> LordLucless: When you log out, it goes back to gdm, which is more a part of X than it is of gnome
[02:11] <phreak97> i pasted everything it gave me:/
[02:11] <Toma-> phreak97: so what did you run before make install?
[02:11] <LordLucless> Right. Gah, I hate intermittent problems :(
[02:11] <Stormx2> phreak97: Are you following the readme?
[02:11] <phreak97> yeah
[02:11] <Stormx2> phreak97: And its saying you should make install?
[02:11] <zamuro> phreak97: Did you tried apt-get install that?
[02:12] <phreak97> yeah
[02:12] <phreak97> Stormx2,  ill send you the readme, you tell me what to do
[02:12] <phreak97> i dont understand it all
[02:12] <Stormx2> Well then i take it the package isn't broken and you just need to install build-essential. Thats my 2 cents
[02:12] <zamuro> Hmmm... Sometimes, i download the deb package from packages.debian.org and dkpg it... Seems to work most of times
[02:12] <leandro_> hi all. I'm having some delays on ssh connections. Do you have any tips on this issue?
[02:12] <Stormx2> zamuro; me too =)
[02:12] <Toma-> phreak97: from the bare source (which is a kinda silly thing to do with ubuntu) you should only need to run "./configure" then "make"
[02:13] <zamuro> Stormx2: So, you're a former debian user too :=
[02:13] <zamuro> :)
[02:13] <phreak97> i have to be in the directory its in before i do ./configure right?
[02:13] <Toma-> phreak97: yes
[02:13] <topyli> zamuro: if there really isn't an ubuntu package, or a dapper source package, you'd be better off building packages from debian sources than using their binaries
[02:14] <phreak97> ok, i reckon ill be able to do it now
[02:14] <phreak97> it says: If you have player keys, you need to put them in the file csskeys.h, before
[02:14] <phreak97> configuring libdvdcss to enable the "key" method (the one from libcss).
[02:14] <phreak97> wtf does that mean?
[02:15] <zamuro> topyli: Well... You've got a point. But, since Ubuntu is a Debian-based distro, shouldn't be a problem.
[02:15] <phreak97> i feel like such a windows user lol
[02:15] <phreak97> guess i am still
[02:15] <Toma-> phreak97: why install libdvdcss 1.2?
[02:15] <Tomcat_> phreak97: If you have the private key of an official DVD player (PowerDVD or something), you can put it in... afaik
[02:15] <Toma-> why not use libdvdcss2?
[02:15] <Tomcat_> phreak97: But you don't need the key method anyway, because DVD keys can be cracked on-the-fly
[02:15] <topyli> zamuro: so is linspire, but it doesn't make it binary compatible with either debian or ubuntu
[02:16] <phreak97> Toma-,  i dont know
[02:16] <phreak97> i thought this was the latest
[02:16] <phreak97> fuck
[02:16] <Toma-> hehe no.
[02:16] <Tomcat_> phreak97: There are also packages for libdvdcss... no need to compile.
[02:16] <Toma-> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[02:16] <Rogg> Salutations All
[02:17] <zamuro> topyli: Yup... I know that. But, as far as I'm concerned, I had no problems so far installing .deb packages from debian packages site
[02:17] <topyli> zamuro: it's your system, hack away :-)
[02:18] <zamuro> topyli: LOL... Thanks :)
[02:18] <phreak97> Tomcat_,  where do i get then?
[02:18] <Seveas> Tomcat_, making my highlight flash helps :p
[02:18] <Tomcat_> phreak97: Toma- http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[02:19] <Tomcat_> Seveas: I don't think we'll go any deeper into libdvdcss anyway :P
[02:19] <gorski> how to play wmv files, please?
[02:20] <Signifer123> what version?
[02:20] <Signifer123> 8 or 9
[02:20] <Toma-> gorski: you need w32codecs
[02:20] <Toma-> !w32codecs
[02:20] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:20] <gorski> where can i get them
[02:20] <gorski> ?
[02:20] <Toma-> check that out gorski ^^^
[02:21] <McJerry> sometimes the obvious eludes those who think too much
[02:22] <Tomcat_> Sometimes is euphemistic, McJerry.
[02:22] <McJerry> everyone have a good day, am off to work for the man
[02:23] <jde> #kubuntu
[02:24] <Toma->  /j :)
[02:24] <Christian`> and whats the difference?
[02:24] <Christian`> between ubuntu and kubuntu :p
[02:24] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping
[02:25] <KarlosII> McJerry: I know what u mean, the simplest things elude me sometimes I always have complicated soltuions
[02:25] <Pygi> ubotu: tell Christian about kubuntu
[02:25] <Pygi> !ubuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> well, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[02:25] <Pygi> !kubuntu
[02:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:25] <NewIRC> Ubuntu  use Gnome and Kubunt use KDE
[02:25] <Pygi> or just read up :P
[02:25] <Christian`> ah
[02:25] <Christian`> :)
[02:26] <Christian`> kubuntu sounds like "kunterbund" in german :p
[02:26] <Christian`> which means sth. like colored
[02:26] <phreak97> do i want 20050412-0unofficialubuntu2 or 20050412-0unofficialubuntu1 ?
[02:26] <phreak97> for the win32 codecs
[02:26] <Pygi> huh, use whatever you like
[02:28] <Johnny0> Good morning all
[02:28] <kremonte> what's the problem?
[02:29] <KarlosII> Johnny0: giving other ppl u dun know access to your box is not a good idea
[02:29] <phreak97> is ubuntu debian gnu/linux, mandrake linux, fedora core, or what?
[02:29] <Draken> debain
[02:29] <phreak97> thanks
[02:29] <Johnny0> When I boot up - it brings me to CLI
[02:30] <Johnny0> I have to "startx" to get into the desktop enviro
[02:30] <KarlosII> phreak97: it's a offspring of debian/gnu linux
[02:30] <Hendikins> How is this looking for a quick and dirty start to proceedings? http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html
[02:31] <Tobbe|LiveCD> I can't get any sound through my analog spidf output. The regular headphones output works fine. What could the problem be?
[02:31] <cvt|gnuyear> how do i get a system monitor as that on this desktop?   http://foto.urosevic.net/albums/screens/snimak_ekrana_Ubuntu_gnagt.sized.jpg
[02:32] <Pygi> cvt: are you by any chance from Croatia?
[02:32] <kremonte> ah, thinking of sound, any idea why the 'master sound' controls won't work for XMMS?
[02:33] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: thats gkrellm
[02:33] <cvt|gnuyear> Pygi, no
[02:34] <Pygi> cvt: oh,k, you posted croatian link :P
[02:35] <Pygi> cvt: thats a GTK widget or somethin'
[02:35] <Pygi> !widget
[02:35] <ubotu> Pygi: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:35] <Pygi> huh :/
[02:35] <lotusleaf> Someone on digg submitted a story about "nubuntu", but I didn't find any results for it (with a dot org on the end) on the ubuntu forums, is this something new, or a fake?
[02:35] <Pygi> nubuntu? heh??
[02:36] <Pygi> that doesn't exist :/
[02:36] <paolob> ciao a tutti!! ho lo screensaver di X che mi friza el pc ubuntu. Se lo apro friza tutto. Come faccio per disabilitarlo senza aprirlo? grazie!
[02:36] <Pygi> kubuntu, edubuntu, ubuntu, and xubuntu there is
[02:36] <lotusleaf> Then anyone else on digg should inform the poster: http://digg.com/mods/nUbuntu_-_Formula_One_Released
[02:36] <Pygi> paolob: #ubuntu-it
[02:36] <lotusleaf> Pygi, thanks, I figured it was an error
[02:36] <Jared> How do i get limewire installed
[02:36] <stark-johan> I've edited my sources.list to include a dapper-line (I want to install a dapper package in breezy) but when I do "sudo apt-get build-dep rythmbox" i get "Couldn't open /var/lib/apg/lists/se.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_source_Sources (File does not exist). HAve I missed something?
[02:37] <tronix> lotusleaf: I think it's an offshoot of Ubuntu; not official one from the Ubuntu team. see: http://nubuntu.org/
[02:37] <lotusleaf> tronix, ah so it's not official, thanks.
[02:38] <kremonte> any idea why my 'master sound' controls won't work for XMMS?
[02:38] <Jared> ahhh shit i have to use java.....i can't get java to install for NOTHING
[02:38] <paolob> Hi guys! The screensaver freezes my pc, either when it enters automatically and when I try to conifigure it. How can I disable it without opening its preferences? thank you!
[02:38] <tronix> stark-joh: try 'apt-get update' to rebuild apt source info?
[02:38] <Pygi> lotusleaf: what the hell is that nUbuntu????
[02:39] <__Dwayne> q: why are some windows too big for my display, and how do I adjust their size?
[02:39] <tronix> some kind of network ubuntu distro for purposes of security scanning and stuff, I think?
[02:39] <tronix> (re: nUbuntu)
[02:39] <lotusleaf> Pygi, I don't know, I didn't bother to visit the site, I was looking at new news stories on digg and someone submitted it, I came here after searching ubuntuforums and google to get more information
[02:39] <Jared> Which java should i get jre or what?
[02:39] <lotusleaf> tronix, i'd rather trust official ubuntu for security rather than a distro "based" on ubuntu. To call it 'nubuntu' IMO is insulting
[02:39] <tronix> aye
[02:40] <Pygi> lotusleaf: I visited the site, but I don't think they are allowed to use Ubuntu name as they are not affliated with canonical
[02:40] <tronix> guess it's more of an optimized LiveCD-type thing
[02:40] <__Dwayne> Jared: I installed jre..
[02:40] <tronix> for a particular set of apps
[02:40] <phreak97> ok, i got that going, now where do i get win32 codecs?
[02:40] <lotusleaf> Pygi, indeed, perhaps some official ubuntu and/or canonical reps may want to look into this quickly.
[02:40] <Chousuke> n00buntu :(
[02:40] <Pygi> lotusleaf:k, I'll inform someone :) thanks for that
[02:41] <lotusleaf> Pygi, yw :)
[02:42] <cvt|gnuyear> when i close terminal gkrellm closes, too. is that supposed to happen?
[02:42] <ptomes> Hello, could please somebody tell me how is l10n import in rosetta from upstream handled? Why we (czech team) have many packages partly translated although we have them fully and correctly translated in upstream?
[02:42] <Johnny0> There was a cool system monitor I came across that did a transparent overlay on the screen - anyone know which package that is ?
[02:43] <cvt|gnuyear> i'd like to know too
[02:43] <Jared> how do i convert a bin file or what do i need to do with .bin files?
[02:44] <Johnny0> Jared - you can turn a lot of things into bricks with .bin files :)
[02:44] <Jared> what is the page to java installing on ubuntu
[02:44] <Pygi> Jared: run .bin file
[02:44] <Pygi> !javadebs
[02:44] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:44] <Pygi> !java
[02:44] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:45] <__Dwayne> Jared: chmod +x {.binfile}
[02:45] <Jared> kk
[02:45] <Pygi> lotusleaf: k, authorities informed :) investigation pending :)
[02:45] <Pygi> lotusleaf: ping
[02:45] <lotusleaf> Pygi, great :) thanks
[02:45] <zix> where can i get some cool fonts?
[02:45] <Pygi> lotusleaf: thank you :)
[02:46] <Pygi> ubotu tell zix about fonts
[02:46] <lotusleaf> Pygi, :) yw
[02:46] <__Dwayne> Pygi, know why I can't view all of some windows open? why they are too big for my desktop?
[02:46] <phreak97> win32 codecs? where to get?
[02:46] <Stormx2> !w32codecs
[02:46] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:46] <Pygi> Dwayne: well, can you resize them?
[02:46] <Tobbe|LiveCD> How do I get sound through my spdif port?
[02:47] <__Dwayne> Pygi, nope, can't resize them..this always happens when I access system settings..
[02:47] <phreak97> thanks
[02:47] <Pygi> dwayne: huh, whats your resolution?
[02:47] <cvt|gnuyear> my date suddely says los angeles. any ideas how to get my date back?
[02:47] <Stormx2> Pfft. I'm down to following my own how-to lol
[02:48] <KarlosII> mountmount
[02:48] <__Dwayne> pygi 1024x768..max supported by my display (laptop LCD)
[02:48] <Pygi> cvt: use "date"
[02:48] <kremonte> how can i mass untar a bunch of .tar.gz files? man tar isn't helping :(
[02:48] <Pygi> dwayne: try reducing resolution, and tell me what happens?
[02:48] <flight_master> tar zxvf *.tar.gz
[02:48] <__Dwayne> I only have one other option..800x600
[02:48] <cvt|gnuyear> Pygi, what do u mean?
[02:49] <Pygi> cvt: command is called "date" :P
[02:49] <flight_master> kremonte, try that :)
[02:49] <kremonte> kay
[02:49] <cvt|gnuyear> Pygi, gkrellm seems to have taken over the terminal
[02:49] <Pygi> cvs: huh :/
[02:49] <__Dwayne> pygi: all of the windows are too big then..I reset it back..
[02:49] <Jared> is there not an easier way to install java?
[02:49] <lotusleaf> Pygi, I hope that doesn't make the frontpage of digg, it's getting a lot of diggs, I posted a comment but if it hits the front page it's going to create a lot of confusing news ;/
[02:49] <__Dwayne> Jared: nope..
[02:49] <Pygi> dwayne: huh, configured X?
[02:49] <cvt|gnuyear> Pygi, i can't run "date"
[02:50] <__Dwayne> Pygi: configured X?? please elaborate
[02:50] <cvt|gnuyear> Pygi, the terminal won't let me enter commands
[02:50] <Pygi> lotusleaf: please gimme a link to the dig once again, and please talk me about it privately so you don't spam channel
[02:50] <Pygi> cvt: huh, why not?
[02:50] <cvt|gnuyear> Pygi, because of gkrellm
[02:50] <Pygi> huh :/
[02:51] <kremonte> flight_master: same error as before, tar: filename: Not found in archive ><
[02:51] <Johnny0> Is there anyway to reinstall the gnome desktop for ubuntu without screwing things up ?
[02:52] <stark-johan> how do I install a newer version of libdbus-glib-1-dev? I need it to install newer version of rhythmbox, I have dapper main restricted in my sources.
[02:52] <KarlosII> qtparted safe to resize hdds nowadays?
[02:53] <Stormx2> Yay i can now explore my smartphone =)
[02:54] <ppd> hello ! just a question: how do you umount your usb sticks? how long do you wait until unplugging your stick after having clicked on eject in gnome?
[02:54] <Pygi> stark-johan: sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <alexwillmer> ppd, I wait no time, once the icon disappears I consider it safe
[02:54] <Pygi> ppd: umount /dev/sdX
[02:54] <Stormx2> ppd: If you clicked eject in gnome and the icon is gone, its umounted
[02:55] <ppd> no
[02:55] <Jared> i went to create a folder on my desktop and it said i don't have permission to write there....wtf?
[02:55] <ppd> it isn't. with larger amounts of files umount takes much longer than the icon disappearing
[02:56] <Jared> Hello? any help ppl
[02:56] <Pygi> Jared?
[02:56] <ppd> I have tried that on 2 computers with breezy installed ! one with usb 2.0 the other with 1.1
[02:56] <Jared> Jared? what?
[02:56] <Jared> i can't write to my DESKTOP
[02:56] <ppd> alexwillmer: how is your stick mounted? sync?
[02:57] <Jared> i can't create or move anything to it.....how do i fix it Pygi?
[02:57] <alexwillmer> ppd, whatever the defaults are
[02:57] <ppd> alexwillmer: is it a fat stick?
[02:58] <stark-johan> Pygi > apt says that i have the latest version of libdbus-glib-1-dev but when i try to apt-get build-dep rhythmbox I get "libdbus-glib-1-dev does not fulfill version requirements"
[02:58] <Johnny0> Found it ! osdsh
[02:58] <alexwillmer> ppd, erm?? The device is a 60GB 2.5" USB 2 HD, with a VFAT partition
[02:58] <Jared> Lord....can't anyone answer me please?
[02:59] <Pygi> Jared: huh? who's the owner of "Desktop"?
[02:59] <Johnny0> !osdsh
[02:59] <ubotu> Johnny0: Syntax error in line 1
[02:59] <Jared> me
[02:59] <xiaogil> How to watch "DVDSCR-xvid" movies, it's actually a directory that contains many files, I don't know how to watch it, does anybody know ?
[02:59] <Jared> like my Desktop
[02:59] <ppd> alexwillmer, but you can't tell if you copy let's say 50 MB and then click eject it's unmounted in a second and all data is written ?!
[02:59] <Jared> and it just started where i can't write to it
[02:59] <TotalNewb> Hello all. I have a lexmark Z515 printer. I went to the lexmark web page and it only has windoze and Mac drivers for download. Could I still use this printer? If so how please?
[02:59] <Johnny0> ubotu tell me about osdsh
[02:59] <Pygi> !printer
[02:59] <ubotu> well, printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:59] <KarlosII> jared do u know how to modify file permissions?
[02:59] <Pygi> TotalNewb: read it
[02:59] <Jared> yeah
[02:59] <Pygi> stark: file a bug
[02:59] <Jared> ah.........
[02:59] <Johnny0> !ubotu tell me about osdsh
[03:00] <Pygi> Jared: yesh, who is owner of your desktop directory?
[03:00] <KarlosII> jared make sure u set the right group too
[03:00] <alexwillmer> ppd, I've always treated it as something that, 'Just Works'
[03:00] <stark-johan> pygi > Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
[03:00] <TotalNewb> Cool :) Thanks :)
[03:00] <KarlosII> and right owner
[03:00] <Jared> .hrrrrrr..........it is set to root....wtf it was just on my group...gotta go root....brb
[03:01] <Pygi> stark: don't know what :/ packages in dapper are often broken tho :/
[03:01] <KarlosII> Pygi: lol
[03:01] <ppd> alexwillmer, then I suppose your hd is mounted sync or something like that... My stick takes about 20 seconds to unmount after having copied 50 mb
[03:01] <KarlosII> Pygi: sum1 inexperienced is playing with heir permissions
[03:01] <Pygi> Karlos: what's funny? :)
[03:01] <alexwillmer> ppd, I've copied large files and then unmounted and unplugged without delay, I've not noticed corruption
[03:01] <Johnny0> Jared - you don't have to reboot to go root
[03:01] <Johnny0> lol
[03:01] <KarlosII> pygi: noob's :P
[03:01] <Pygi> Karlos: nobody is a noob, NOBODY, remember that....
[03:01] <alexwillmer> ppd, your stick will be flash, which is slow to write to, perhaps my HD has the same behaviour, but the dely is smaller
[03:02] <stark-johan> Everyone's a noob sometime...
[03:02] <Pygi> he/she can only be a beginner, and everyone was beeginer at its time....
[03:02] <KarlosII> NOOB
[03:02] <ppd> alexwillmer, same behaviour with my usb disk
[03:02] <KarlosII> :P
[03:02] <Pygi> and btw. nobody can know anything
[03:02] <KarlosII> stark even me
[03:02] <alexwillmer> ppd, disk as in spinning platter with magnetic read head?
[03:02] <Stormx2> >_< I'm probably 99% n00b when it comes to linux lol
[03:03] <Stormx2> I still managed to write a how-to =) but still
[03:03] <Hendikins> Oh dear. I haven't even marked my ubuntu distronotes doc and done, and I've already been asked if it can be dumped in the wiki verbatim. Is this a bad sign? :P
[03:03] <Pygi> storm2: what about?
[03:03] <kremonte> anyone have any idea why my gnome sound 'master' control won't control my xmms sound? :(
[03:03] <Johnny0> it's called ignorance Pygi - everyone is ignorant to many things - just as I have vast knowledge of large Wireless networks - I do not know shit about Linux / Ubuntu - been with a woman for 5yrs and don't know crap about that either !
[03:03] <stark-johan> I love ubuntu allready, if I only could make the ipod work everything would be great.
[03:03] <ppd> alexwillmer, no one of those harddisks with a usb port
[03:03] <Stormx2> Pygi: Syncing Smartphones
[03:03] <Pygi> storm2: heh, interesting :)
[03:03] <Siru> hmm
[03:04] <alexwillmer> ppd, that didn't enlighten me
[03:04] <Stormx2> Pygi: It was bloody differcult to do beleive me o.O
[03:04] <Pygi> Johnny: You'll learn, slowly :)
[03:04] <Stormx2> Pygi: Any occasionally someone comes in and ask =)
[03:04] <Pygi> storm: heh, but you did it :) congrats on that :)
[03:04] <lotusleaf> stark-johan, there are programs for the ipod in linux
[03:04] <ppd> alexwillmer, wait. I'llt tell you the time it takes when I umount my USB FLASH stick after a 50 mb copy process
[03:04] <KarlosII> Hendikins: lol better hide for a bit :P
[03:05] <stark-johan> lotusleaf > yep, but my gtkpod hangs when i try to d/l the db from the pod.
[03:05] <lotusleaf> stark-johan, bummer ;(
[03:05] <KarlosII> u mean I can connect my ipod mini to linuc now?
[03:05] <Pygi> yesh
[03:05] <stark-johan> and I've tried installing newer (dapper) versions of rhythmbox and gtkpod but I'm having dependency troubles.
[03:06] <alexwillmer> stark-johan, what model of iPod, perhaps it's newer that
[03:06] <Pygi> stark: huh, dapper has packages problems :/
[03:06] <alexwillmer> than your version of gtkpod can handle
[03:06] <Pygi> stark: most of them is inherited from breezy, and they don't work well :/
[03:06] <hyakuhei> ppd:  the reason is that in some circumstances the kernel does not copy the files over untill it is told to unmount the disk, ie, it caches all operations then dumps them on the disk at the end
[03:07] <hyakuhei> though to the user it appears that it as all happening in real time
[03:07] <ppd> hyakuhei, I like that behaviour as sync mount on fat destroys the disk early
[03:07] <stark-johan> alexwillmer > an ipod mini, bought about one year ago
[03:07] <hyakuhei> aye
[03:07] <ppd> alexwillmer, real    0m17.434s
[03:08] <ppd> hyakuhei, but the icon should disappear AFTER umount
[03:08] <hyakuhei> true
[03:08] <stark-johan> pygi > ok, maybe I'll have to wait and see if it will get fixed. I reckon it's a quite common problem so let's hope for the best.
[03:08] <Pygi> k, g2g
[03:08] <hyakuhei> does the icon disapear when you unmount using the right clicked option on the icon?
[03:08] <Siru> hmm
[03:09] <ppd> hyakuhei, instantly
[03:09] <ppd> hyakuhei, also when I'm umounting the stick on the console
[03:09] <ppd> disappears a few ms after ENTER
[03:09] <Ninjaa> hi guys, im trying to get videos workin in firefox. Do i need mplayer and i cant find it in the SPM
[03:09] <hyakuhei> ppd: i dont know, to do with the gnome/hal stuff for sure, but i cant say specifically what
[03:10] <hyakuhei> Ninjaa: you most likely will need mplayer
[03:10] <Ninjaa> can i get that from the SPM ?
[03:10] <_thomas_> where are the types rlim_t and sig_atomic_t declared?
[03:10] <ppd> hyakuhei, If one could hack pmount/gnome-volume-manager source to get a progress bar (with zenity maybe ;-)) I'd be happy ... :-(
[03:10] <ppd> hyakuhei, but I can't code. so I have to live with that until dapper (maybe) ?!
[03:11] <alexwillmer> ppd, ouch. I assumed the icon was there until sync was complete. Beyond the length of the delay, which is likely flash write or usb 1.0 bus speed, I can't suggest anything
[03:11] <_thomas_> where to find the types rlim_t and sig_atomic_t???
[03:12] <_thomas_> they aren't defined int sys/types.h
[03:12] <Toma-> _thomas_: they looks like symbols...
[03:12] <Toma-> _thomas_: whats this in reference to?
[03:13] <ppd> alexwillmer, hyakuhei, thank you very very much ! I think is clearly a usability bug... :-/
[03:13] <_thomas_> it's an exercise in a book to print the size of this types
[03:13] <Ninjaa> Anyone know how i install mplaer ?
[03:13] <Ninjaa> * mplayer
[03:14] <KarlosII> is it not in your repository?
[03:14] <alexwillmer> Ninjaa, use the Package Manager (synaptic), or from the commandline sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:14] <Toma-> Ninjaa: you need to enable multiverse and universe, then run apt-get install mplayer
[03:15] <Johnny0> Anyone listen to radio from xm-radio.com ?
[03:15] <Ninjaa> i think ive got it, thx guys
[03:15] <kremonte> where do i configure the gnome keybindings?
[03:15] <Johnny0> Thanxs for sticking around Ninjaa :)
[03:15] <Stormx2> Pygi: Yeah I did sync it in the end =) It was kind of complicated and it requires the kernel source and such
[03:17] <phreak97> i cant extract multi part rars
[03:17] <phreak97> what should i use?
[03:17] <Hellsashes> phreak: are you using the app rar?
[03:17] <phreak97> i thought it was a command line app
[03:17] <KarlosII> phreak97: u should rar
[03:18] <KarlosII> it is
[03:18] <KarlosII> apt-get install rar
[03:18] <__Dwayne> anyone know anything about why certain windows display too large for the screen?
[03:18] <xukun> which bittorent client can I best use for ubuntu?
[03:18] <phreak97> is there not one with a gui?
[03:18] <Hellsashes> Yes it is, if you don't have it just do a sudo apt-get install rar if you already have it, just type rar e nameofrar.rar or whatever the extension is .r01 or whatever
[03:18] <KarlosII> unrar e "foo.01.rar"
[03:18] <Hellsashes> in my experence the graphical archiver doesn't work well with rar, its best to just use the command line with that I think
[03:19] <gorski> how to enable 4 speakers in alsa player?
[03:19] <Stormx2> to unrar you need unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[03:19] <KarlosII> no
[03:19] <KarlosII> rar comes pacakged with it
[03:19] <Stormx2> really?
[03:19] <Stormx2> hmm.
[03:19] <Manifold> What's with the padlock on a .deb file on my desktop?
[03:19] <KarlosII> lemme dbl cehck that
[03:19] <Manifold> What does it mean?
[03:19] <Toma-> Manifold: you probably downloaded it with root?
[03:20] <Manifold> I just clicked and downloaded it from FF.
[03:20] <Toma-> hmm
[03:20] <Manifold> But I did use sudo mv on it
[03:20] <xukun> which bittorrent client are u guys/gils using?
[03:20] <KarlosII> Stormx2: it mus because I dun have any of those pacakges installed u mentioned
[03:21] <alexwillmer> Manifold, the padlock means read only IIRC, right click and choose properties, then set permissions if you're the owner
[03:21] <Toma-> Manifold: there u go
[03:21] <Toma-> actually, mv should change ownership
[03:21] <Toma-> *shouldnt
[03:21] <Manifold> Hm.
[03:21] <Manifold> What's the delete command?
[03:21] <Chousuke> rm
[03:21] <gorski> my sorround players are not working, maybe some idea, please?
[03:22] <Manifold> KK,
[03:22] <Toma-> rm
[03:22] <KarlosII> sudo mv will change ownership
[03:22] <alexwillmer> Manifold, if you used sudo mv, then root is the owner of the file, use sudo chown to make yourself the owner
[03:22] <Hendikins> I must be crazy. Writing docs for a distro I don't use, then putting them in the wiki :P
[03:23] <KarlosII> lol
[03:23] <KarlosII> Hendikins: u're work is mucha ppreciated
[03:23] <gorski> tnx
[03:24] <Manifold> How do I install .deb files?
[03:24] <Toma-> Hendikins: what are u writing a wiki about?
[03:24] <Manifold> I know you guys diapprove of it, but I want to try..
[03:24] <Toma-> Manifold: dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:24] <Manifold> Thanks.
[03:24] <Pygi> Lotusleaf: ping
[03:25] <Toma-> Manifold: .deb files are fine. aslong as theyre for ubuntu, not debian.
[03:25] <Hendikins> Toma-: I wrote this quick and nasty doc, and I've had a request to wikify it: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html
[03:25] <Hendikins> and hey, what else am I going to do at 0125?
[03:25] <raphink> Manifold: why do you want to install a deb file?
[03:25] <alexwillmer> xukun, just gnome-bittorrent for casual stuff. I'd use Azureus if I weredoing it seriously
[03:26] <Manifold> Because I want to install Mahogany Mail
[03:26] <Draken> !usb
[03:26] <ubotu> No idea, Draken
[03:26] <Draken> how do u mount a usb harddrive ?
[03:26] <xukun> alexwillmer, thanks
[03:26] <Pygi> with mount
[03:26] <Pygi> Draken, I told you that 50 times :/
[03:26] <Pygi> Lotusleaf: ping
[03:26] <Manifold> Errors all over the place, never mind then. :/
[03:26] <Draken> err ,its my first time asking
[03:26] <Toma-> Hendikins: imho, there a heck of alot of this stuff on the wiki forums at the moment anyway... what hasnt been done (that i know of) is a pictorial/screenshot wiki using synaptic to enable universe and add packages like these.
[03:26] <alexwillmer> Dr_Acemaster, mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 assuming 4 or 5 things about your situation
[03:26] <phreak97> ok, i have archive manager working rar's now
[03:26] <phreak97> thanks
[03:27] <alexwillmer> sorry Draken
[03:27] <Pygi> Draken: mount /dev/sdX location
[03:27] <Hendikins> Toma-: The AddingRepositoriesHowto doesn't cover enabling them adequetely?
[03:28] <Manifold> It kind of installed Mahogany Mail, but didn't.
[03:28] <Manifold> Synaptic found it, but said it was broken.
[03:28] <stark-johan> I downloaded a deb-file from the forums, how do I install it? (gtkpod_0.99.2-1_i386.deb)
[03:28] <Pygi> stark: dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:28] <Mabus06> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[03:28] <Pygi> huh, yes, sudo thingy :P
[03:29] <Toma-> Hendikins: i spose. but i think it needs to go further :)
[03:29] <Stormx2> ;-) I always forget that one
[03:29] <Pygi> stormx: hehe :)
[03:29] <Hendikins> Toma-: The main reason I wrote the plugindoc page was as an extension of my own documentation. I quite honestly hate wikis.
[03:29] <Mabus06> Toma-, that's the beauty of a wiki... go ahead.
[03:30] <Manifold> How does someone change a .deb file built for debian to a ubuntu one?
[03:30] <KarlosII> lol
[03:30] <Manifold> Is it very hard?
[03:30] <KarlosII> Manifold: why?
[03:30] <Pygi> KarlosII: what is it now? :P
[03:30] <Toma-> Hendikins: same.
[03:30] <Toma-> Mabus06: id love too but im too busy :/
[03:30] <allison_1984> stark > dpkg -i gtkpod_0.99.2-1_i386.deb
[03:30] <Manifold> Because there are some programs that don't have a compile binary for ubuntu.
[03:30] <KarlosII> Pygi: lol@mabus
[03:30] <Manifold> compiled, KarlosII
[03:30] <omerlh> How can I load usb modules?
[03:30] <raphink> Manifold: this is either synching or merging
[03:30] <fizzle> my fluxbox runs slow when switching styles and stuff how do i fix this
[03:30] <Pygi> Karlos: what he did?
[03:31] <Hendikins> Toma-: I've had the odd request to wikify plugindoc.mozdev.org - and as I say every time, "over my dead body"
[03:31] <jase> help please :( i've set up my network card, it's enabled in network settings and i can ping other network computers, but i can;t access the internet.
[03:31] <raphink> s/synching/syncing/
[03:31] <Pygi> ubotu tell fizzle about fluxbox
[03:31] <KarlosII> manifold u can the backport depository which will have it
[03:31] <Pygi> !patience
[03:31] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[03:31] <Mabus06> What did I do, KarlosII?
[03:31] <bipolar> I think amarok can do ipod syncing too
[03:31] <Manifold> Aha..
[03:31] <KarlosII> Mabus06: your wiki comment
[03:31] <raphink> Manifold: if there's no change to apply to the deb, then we just sync it with Debian
[03:31] <raphink> Manifold: if there are things to change in the deb, then we merge it
[03:31] <Hendikins> Toma-: Valid question though. What existing document on the wiki is a one stop doc for installing Firefox plugins?
[03:31] <raphink> Manifold: come to #ubuntu-motu to talk about that
[03:31] <Manifold> And how do you do all that, raphink ?
[03:31] <Manifold> OK
[03:32] <KarlosII> motu?
[03:32] <stark-johan> YEAY! I got it working. I compiled gtkpod from source and now it works! I only can find one song but atleast i can open the ipod in gtkpod.
[03:32] <KarlosII> what is motu?
[03:32] <Toma-> Hendikins: id say alot of ubuntu'ers will look to firefox for supplying that info.
[03:32] <Chousuke> Masters of the universe
[03:32] <__Dwayne> anyone at all know why some windows display too large for my screen resolution (1024x768) and how I can resize them?
[03:32] <Chousuke> ;P
[03:32] <Pygi> kARLOS: universe keepers :) they hold the key :)
[03:32] <Pygi> !motu
[03:32] <ubotu> I heard motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[03:32] <raphink> KarlosII: motu = Masters of the Universe
[03:32] <raphink> ;)
[03:33] <raphink> the devs behind the universe repository
[03:33] <Hendikins> Toma-: Guess who maintains the docs used on that end? Yours truly.
[03:33] <Pygi> they should be named keepers of the universe :/
[03:33] <Toma-> Hendikins: nice job :)
[03:33] <deltron> the restaraunt at the end of the universe
[03:33] <deltron> ;)
[03:34] <Hendikins> Toma-: However, I maintain generic instructions, which is where the doc I whipped up comes in to play.
[03:34] <Toma-> i see
[03:34] <Hendikins> That doc is ubuntu-specific instructions for ubuntu users
[03:34] <norwix>  hey ^^
[03:35] <Toma-> Hendikins: well it looks nice!
[03:35] <Hendikins> I'll whip up one for SuSE (the distro I use myself), probably fedora, and possibly Gentoo as well.
[03:35] <Draken> does anyone know how to do commands at startup ??? automaticly
[03:35] <Pygi> Draken: cron?
[03:35] <Pygi> !cron
[03:35] <ubotu> Pygi: Not a clue
[03:35] <Hendikins> The folks in #debian have managed to put me off-side a bit though, so *shrug*
[03:36] <Toma-> Draken: what kind of commands?
[03:36] <Toma-> sif cron
[03:36] <Draken> toma
[03:36] <Draken> console commands
[03:36] <Pygi> Hendikins: what happened?
[03:36] <Pygi> Toma: heh ;
[03:36] <Toma-> Draken: like "sudo blah"?
[03:36] <Draken> ya
[03:36] <Toma-> or like "killall esd"
[03:36] <blue-frog> Draken, system>pref>session
[03:36] <Draken> its all the same thing
[03:36] <Toma-> Draken: what command..?
[03:36] <cvt|gnuyear> how do i keep xine from resizing the window for me?
[03:36] <Hendikins> Pygi: I get somewhat pissy about them patching it up the wazoo then sending users upstream for support (given upstream = #firefox on moznet, and I'm basically in charge of it)
[03:36] <Draken> toma
[03:36] <Draken> brtctl coammnds
[03:36] <laIaidoka> Toma- I used to write that one all the time, but these days you can disable esd from the menus
[03:37] <Manifold> Hey, is sudo a debian specific command too?
[03:37] <cvt|gnuyear> when i go from movie track to movie track in a folder i want to keep the screen size of xine the same, how?
[03:37] <laIaidoka> Manifold: nope
[03:37] <laIaidoka> it is standard...
[03:37] <Pygi> Hendikins: huh, thats bad :/
[03:37] <Hendikins> Yeah, sudo(8) is standard
[03:37] <Draken> brtctl coammnds
[03:37] <Toma-> Draken: System > Preferences > Sessions
[03:37] <Manifold> http://www.ss64.com/
[03:38] <Manifold> That says it's OSX.
[03:38] <Toma-> then click startup programs
[03:38] <Pygi> lotusleaf: ping pong?
[03:38] <xxenon> how/what defines the smtp daemon used to send emails using the "mail" command ?
[03:38] <Draken> toma
[03:38] <Hendikins> Pygi: As the #firefox SOP (the "founder" is the services admin, who doesn't use the channel), I find it somewhat annoying having to redirect users back to downstream. Doesn't help the users either.
[03:38] <Draken> im in kubuntu
[03:38] <Toma-> ahhh
[03:39] <Pygi> Hendikins: true :/
[03:39] <Toma-> make a script with the command in it, then put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:39] <zalaam> hi, gnome don't work anymore, if i start the comp i get to the login manager and then it just stops after i've logged in :-(
[03:39] <omerlh> How can I load usb modules?
[03:39] <Pygi> zalaam: reconfigure X server
[03:39] <Draken> Toma-,  wat *. is script ?
[03:39] <Pygi> omerlh: modprobe
[03:39] <Pygi> !modprobe
[03:39] <ubotu> Pygi: Are you on ritalin?
[03:40] <Toma-> zalaam: have you tried "Failsafe Gnome" under the login screen sessions list?
[03:40] <Pygi> yes, I am, stop saying thing like that :P
[03:40] <omerlh> It said module don't exite or something
[03:40] <omerlh> FATAL: Module usb_uhci not found
[03:40] <zalaam> Toma-: mm, don't work, i'm in "failsafe terminal" now
[03:40] <Johnstaaaaaarrr> hi, is it possible to install ubuntu over network?
[03:40] <Toma-> zalaam: try looking at ~/.xsessionerrors
[03:41] <kino-tak> HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
[03:41] <Pygi> Johnstar: yes
[03:41] <kids> dido
[03:41] <Draken> Toma-,
[03:41] <greenpenguin13> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
[03:41] <zalaam> Toma-: okei, thanx, brb
[03:41] <Draken> wat is a script files . wat ?
[03:41] <kids> huh?
[03:41] <MASTERMIND2222> hi
[03:41] <kino-tak> why doesnt ubuntu come with "mail" command included?
[03:42] <Toma-> Draken: um. "cd ~/.kde/Autostart/ && touch drakenscript && chmod +x drakenscript" then put the command into ~/.kde/drakenscript with your favorite text editor
[03:42] <kids> idk yourcrazy
[03:42] <Johnstaaaaaarrr> any online documentation for it Pygi?
[03:42] <Pygi> !network install
[03:42] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Pygi
[03:42] <Toma-> Draken: its a little tiny program i guess
[03:42] <jimmy13632> Does anyone know how to setup the cedega demo in ubuntu?
[03:42] <Pygi> huh :/ just a moment...
[03:42] <Draken> Toma-, , yes dude, but wat file type is it ?.\
[03:42] <Draken> .txt
[03:42] <Draken> .moo
[03:42] <Draken> .cow
[03:42] <Toma-> Draken: file extensions mean noting in linux
[03:42] <kino-tak> I need 'mail' shell command for ubuntu
[03:42] <MASTERMIND2222> how to install linux from iso without burning ?
[03:42] <Toma-> it can be a .cow if you want :D
[03:43] <Pygi> Johnstar: http://gridpt1.fe.up.pt/mlopes/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[03:43] <Johnstaaaaaarrr> thanks mate
[03:43] <jimmy13632> Does anyone know how to setup the cedega demo in ubuntu?
[03:43] <Pygi> Johnstar: np
[03:43] <Toma-> jimmy13632: demo?
[03:43] <Manifold> Does su have the same affect as sudo?
[03:43] <Pygi> kino: well, install it....
[03:43] <Toma-> Manifold: nope
[03:43] <Pygi> jimmy: you can use CVScedega for free.
[03:43] <jimmy13632> yes from the transgaming website
[03:43] <Manifold> What's the diff?
[03:43] <jimmy13632> it's a timed trial
[03:43] <Pygi> CVScedega is free...
[03:44] <Pygi> go use that :P
[03:44] <kids> idont understand!
[03:44] <kino-tak> ok I'll try
[03:44] <Toma-> Manifold: su uses the root user evironment varables where as sudo uses the users environment
[03:44] <Pygi> kids: huh
[03:44] <gorski> how to automaticly save session???
[03:44] <Manifold> OK, Toma-
[03:44] <slept> I got aproblem with amd64 and libgl :annot open shared object file: No such file or directory, any ideas
[03:44] <jimmy13632> how would you setup CVSCedega, because I have no experience in CVS trees
[03:44] <Pygi> jimmy: huh, just a second, I'll give you link
[03:44] <jimmy13632> ok
[03:45] <gorski> please.
[03:45] <Pygi> jimmy: here you go
[03:45] <Pygi> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[03:45] <jimmy13632> thanks
[03:45] <Pygi> gorski: you mean when restarting or wat?
[03:45] <gorski> yeas
[03:45] <gorski> yes
[03:46] <gorski> ?
[03:46] <Pygi> you have that little checkbox "save current setup" or whatever
[03:46] <Pygi> and please be patient :P
[03:46] <Pygi> !patience
[03:46] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[03:47] <FlyingPenguin> hello :)
[03:47] <FlyingPenguin> I have a little problem with a breezy,
[03:47] <Pygi> fire away
[03:47] <lodos> merhaba
[03:47] <lodos> hello
[03:47] <__Dwayne> still has his question about windows that won't display properly.
[03:48] <Pygi> dwayne: huh, yesh :/
[03:48] <FlyingPenguin> The linux is instaklled on an "old" pc, so I disabled many things to increase a little bit the speed...
[03:48] <deltron> ok
[03:48] <Pygi> flyingpenguin: you can "sudo apt-get install xubuntu"
[03:48] <Toma-> gorski: click System > Preferences > Sessions, then check the "Automatically save sessions" and OK
[03:48] <__Dwayne> pygi, some windows don't size properly--I can't see the whole window. Mostly this happens in System Settings..
[03:49] <Pygi> Dwayne: yesh, I know :/
[03:49] <lodos> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[03:49] <Toma-> FlyingPenguin: i feel like your going to ask a question.... plz hurry it up :D
[03:49] <FlyingPenguin> but now, when I shut down, it don't turn off the power to off by himself, I have to press the power button, what should I make that I had unmade ?
[03:49] <gorski> ok, how to disble clock syncronising when starting ubuntu?
[03:49] <Pygi> Dwayne :please try to run "sudo dexconf:
[03:49] <gorski> tnx, for that one.
[03:49] <Toma-> FlyingPenguin: you turned off acpi didnt you
[03:49] <Pygi> gorski: with rc update?
[03:49] <gorski> yes
[03:49] <Toma-> update-rc.d -f stop ntpupdate ?
[03:50] <__Dwayne> ok.. it came back to a prompt after I entered the sudo pasword
[03:50] <Toma-> or something
[03:50] <FlyingPenguin> Toma-, yes you'r right but I think I turned it on now, how to check this correctly, I used update-rc.d...
[03:50] <blue-frog> gorski, renmae/delte /etc/init.d/ntp
[03:50] <jase> why do i get the error 'you have to type an alias first' when i try and add a DNS
[03:50] <Toma-> blue-frog: dont do that
[03:50] <Pygi> Toma: use this: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:50] <Pygi> bluefrog: no, no, and no :P
[03:50] <blue-frog> Toma-, too late working fine...
[03:50] <Toma-> Pygi: why would someone want to do that?
[03:50] <gorski> again, please.
[03:50] <Pygi> cause, then it would not run :P
[03:50] <slept> is there a special channel for amd64
[03:51] <Pygi> gorski: use this: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:51] <Pygi> In Gnome, you can also deactivate it going to the menu option System -> Administration -> Services
[03:51] <FlyingPenguin> noone ? is there a ncurses tool for managing services (all my services aren't in the grayman phical tool)
[03:51] <FlyingPenguin> *graphical
[03:51] <Toma-> ummm gorski: to disable the update like you asked.... run "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove"
[03:51] <Pygi> huh, Toma :/
[03:52] <mwe> Toma-: it's a good way of turning of a service temporarely since it wont run if it's not executeable
[03:52] <Toma-> "gorski ok, how to disble clock syncronising when starting ubuntu?"
[03:52] <gorski> ok, that was it, tnx!
[03:52] <Toma-> why change permissions? thats just silly.
[03:52] <Pygi> toma: and my solution works well :P
[03:52] <Pygi> tell me why not to change it :P
[03:53] <mwe> Toma-: it's not silly
[03:53] <Toma-> thats a perfectly good system in place. why not use it?
[03:53] <mwe> Toma-: id you use update-rc.d you have to remember what number the service was running as and in what runlevels to add it back
[03:53] <Toma-> and keep a 'proper' system :D
[03:53] <blue-frog> toma cause when u have no internet  connection it takes forefever to load..
[03:54] <Toma-> no. you use defaults
[03:54] <Toma-> blue-frog: im talking about update-rc.d as oposed to rm -rf + chmod hacks
[03:54] <Pygi> toma: you can't get this battle :)
[03:54] <Pygi> this is not a hack :/
[03:54] <Toma-> it is
[03:54] <mwe> Toma-: rm -rf?
[03:55] <Toma-> someone said to rm/mv
[03:55] <Pygi> it's just :  sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[03:55] <Pygi> no rename/remove
[03:55] <mwe> Toma-: ok that's stupid
[03:55] <Pygi> mwe: agreed
[03:55] <Toma-> youve still got the system calling that command. so in essence, it'll still be slower than using update-rc.d even if it is 0.01ms :D
[03:55] <Pygi> but chmoding works fine :P
[03:56] <FlyingPenguin> no idea, I think that maybe with the defaults option, the acpi is stopped before being used to power off the computer
[03:56] <Pygi> Toma: but it's the better way :P
[03:56] <Toma-> its not!
[03:56] <Toma-> my god.
[03:56] <Toma-> youre all mad
[03:56] <mwe> Toma-: however I like the chmod -x to temporarely disable a service. btw I got the idea from a debian developer on some web page
[03:56] <Pygi> Toma: nobody is mad :P
[03:56] <zix> guys
[03:56] <zix> do you know some good fonts to use for whole GNOME?
[03:56] <zix> i mean, for the titlebar and GTK apps and stuff..
[03:57] <Toma-> bah. im not going to be a commie about it :) do what you will, im not going to fsck my system with that kind of admin
[03:57] <mwe> zix: bitstream-vera
[03:57] <vulturesrow> hey all, what are the reasons to _not_ upgrade to firefox 1.5
[03:57] <zix> bitstream-vera?
[03:57] <Toma-> zix: ubuntu-ttf :D
[03:57] <Pygi> Toma: huh, that is neither hack, neither nothin', it;s good solution
[03:57] <Prozac> Hmmm... need some help, im reading the starter guide to ubuntu in the wiki. In part 8 about GRUB it says i have to go to system -> admin -> boot, but there is no boot in my list...
[03:57] <Toma-> Pygi: like i said.
[03:57] <zix> ubuntu-ttf?
[03:57] <FlyingPenguin> vulturesrow, some extensions that are not ready maybe but it seams to be a good idea however ;)
[03:57] <Toma-> zix: im kidding. its the font the ubuntu title is done with
[03:58] <Pygi> Tome: huh :/ I feel that should be discussed
[03:58] <Toma-> ive got it for my wm font
[03:58] <zix> hmm..
[03:58] <Toma-> Pygi: feel free to discuss it. you wont be hearing my opinion on it anymore
[03:58] <vulturesrow> flyingpenguin, I just wasnt sure because I thought I read somewhere that it could break some "stuff" in the standard Breezy setup??
[03:58] <zix> Toma-, how to install that font?
[03:58] <slept> which gcc is normaly used with breezy ?4.0 ?
[03:58] <Pygi> Toma: huh, why not? :/
[03:59] <Toma-> Pygi: im not in -offtopic
[03:59] <Pygi> ubotu tell zix about fonts
[03:59] <Pygi> toma: that's not offtopic
[03:59] <zix> i mean where to find it?
[03:59] <FlyingPenguin> vulturesrow, hum I am not familiar with ubuntu so I :x for this ;)
[03:59] <Toma-> zix: i cant remember. ill find it for ya
[03:59] <vulturesrow> flyingpenguin, you realize this is the #ubuntu channel, right? ;)
[03:59] <zix> Toma-, k, thnx ^_^
[04:00] <Toma-> zix: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[04:00] <mwe> Pygi: he just haven't got any good arguements why it's a bad idea, I guess. I think it's a fine solution and at least one debian developer seems to agree
[04:00] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[04:00] <FlyingPenguin> right right but I just installed ubuntu on my granmother pc, i am most fedora usual...
[04:00] <Toma-> mwe: hahah. :) whatever.
[04:00] <FlyingPenguin> hi Inf3ctedFx
[04:01] <zix> 404 error :{
[04:01] <FlyingPenguin> (and sorry for my crappy english....I'm french)
[04:01] <Pygi> mwe: k
[04:01] <vulturesrow> flyingpenguin, ok I'll forgive you ;)
[04:01] <Toma-> zix: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle maybe?
[04:02] <Pygi> mwe: Altought I never had the need to remove it on any of servers I installed, servers get reebot like every 2 years anyway :P
[04:02] <zix> Toma-, no i mean the download link is 404
[04:02] <FlyingPenguin> vulturesrow, huhu isn't english tje international language ? ^^
[04:03] <Toma-> zix: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf-ubuntu-title/ttf-ubuntu-title_0.1-1_all.deb
[04:03] <zix> Toma-, thnx ^^
[04:03] <Toma-> np =^.^=
[04:04] <zix> alright
[04:05] <zix> Toma-, what font size do you use with it? and do you use it around your whole interface?
[04:05] <Draken> where can i get on-board sound card drivers
[04:05] <Draken> sound coming out of linux is really bad
[04:05] <Toma-> zix: i only use it for the window title
[04:05] <Toma-> and its about 12
[04:05] <zix> Toma-, k
[04:06] <FlyingPenguin> oho I foud something on google let's test it...
[04:06] <Draken> where can i get on-board sound card drivers
[04:06] <Draken> sound coming out of linux is really bad
[04:06] <Draken> !sound
[04:06] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:06] <Toma-> Draken: how do you mean "really bad"?
[04:06] <Draken> !sounddrivers
[04:06] <ubotu> Draken: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:06] <zix> Toma-, and for the rest? i mean, Sans gets bored
[04:06] <Draken> Toma-, , scratchy
[04:07] <jenda> Yo folkes - I need a little help with my NVIDIA driver.
[04:07] <vicky> hallo iedereeen
[04:07] <zix> hoi vicky
[04:07] <mcquaid> hello all, i've had alsa audio issues ever since upgrading from hoary to breezy which i have not been able to resolve
[04:07] <Toma-> zix: i dunno :) have a look around http://www.acidfonts.com/ for something cool
[04:08] <zix> Toma-, yea cuz i got all sorts of fonts here but they're only of use in designs
[04:08] <mcquaid> i was in the #alsa channel last night and crimsun tried to help me, but he couldn't resolve it either
[04:08] <mwe> !tell mcquaid about nvidia
[04:08] <jenda> I updated the kernel, and X won't work with the driver on anymore.
[04:08] <Toma-> Draken: open up a mixer (alsamixer is my favorite) and check to see if PCM or Master isnt set to 100. set them both to about 74/80 area.
[04:08] <mwe> !tell jenda about nvidia
[04:08] <Toma-> zix: ahh
[04:08] <mwe> mcquaid: wrong nick, sorry :)
[04:08] <mcquaid> np
[04:09] <Toma-> zix: plain and simple is best for a general font.
[04:09] <jenda> mwe: thanks, but I'm in CLI now... any tips for CLI browsers?
[04:09] <mcquaid> well basically, i get choppy audio when using alsa, either by hardware or dmix, but strangely esd via alsa or oss emulation is fine
[04:09] <zix> Toma-, yup and where to find those? ^^
[04:09] <diederick> hi there
[04:09] <Toma-> hehe
[04:09] <mcquaid> alsa doesn't always give me choppy audio, it's seem dependant on the rate of the file
[04:10] <mwe> jenda: what do you mean. like a web browser? w3m or lynx
[04:10] <Toma-> zix: the default fonts are pretty plain and simple. just click thru them till you find something
[04:10] <slept> jenda: links2 -g
[04:10] <__Dwayne> pygi: I ran the command, it did nothing
[04:10] <fizzle> hey what is roots default password because i cant login as root
[04:10] <diederick> I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 (i386) on a AMD 1000mhz, computer, but its 'hanging' on "Detecting hardware....", how long should I wait?
[04:10] <fizzle> it never asked me during the setup to put in a password for root
[04:10] <Draken> where can i get drivers for sound card onboard
[04:10] <zix> Toma-, and something new?
[04:10] <mwe> jenda: yeah or elinks. w3m should be installed be default
[04:10] <mcquaid> there is no root by default fizzle
[04:11] <fizzle> mcquaid, o because it keeps asking me to put in roots password
[04:11] <gnomefreak> diederick, on that step should only take a few secs to a min
[04:11] <mcquaid> by default the first user has admin privledges via sudo
[04:11] <jenda> OK, thx
[04:11] <mwe> there is indeed root by default, but he doesn't have a password
[04:11] <diederick> hmm strange, what can be the problem than?
[04:11] <mcquaid> it should never actually ask you for root, it should be saying your password
[04:11] <Toma-> zix: no idea. i just use sans. :(
[04:11] <zix> Toma-, :{
[04:11] <zix> anyone else?
[04:11] <diederick> also my keybord doesn't 'work' anymore...
[04:11] <Pygi> Dwayne: restart X server
[04:11] <Draken> fizzle,  if it asks for root password
[04:11] <Draken> u are installing server
[04:11] <zix> some font for general use which is something new?
[04:11] <Draken> not normal
[04:11] <fizzle> please enter roots password to run gdmsetup
[04:11] <diederick> no
[04:12] <fizzle> yes it is server
[04:12] <diederick> oh
[04:12] <Draken> lol told u
[04:12] <Draken> server will ask for root
[04:12] <fizzle> i installed server mode for optimized performance
[04:12] <Draken> lol
[04:12] <Draken> noob ;P
[04:12] <fizzle> becuz of my memory issues
[04:12] <fizzle> so :/
[04:12] <vicky> hallo iedereen
[04:12] <Draken> server is for SERVERs
[04:12] <Draken> :P
[04:13] <dukebody> hello anybody can $telnet pop3.telefonica.net 110? i'm having problems with my pop server and i don't know if there is a server problem or the problem is in my system-
[04:13] <fizzle> Draken, not exactly. there is a wiki page for people with low memory and they specifically tell you to use server mode
[04:13] <zix> opentype ^_^
[04:13] <vicky> hello everybody
[04:13] <cycom> Draken: a system is whatever you make it.
[04:13] <butcherbird> fizzle: u might just apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[04:13] <fizzle> butcherbird,  and that is?
[04:13] <Draken> fizzle, server just means it isnt set up for you
[04:13] <Draken> no DE or anything
[04:13] <gnomefreak> xfce meta package :))
[04:13] <fizzle> Draken,  thats wat i wanted
[04:14] <fizzle> Draken, so i can install it myself
[04:14] <vicky> tz
[04:14] <Draken> lol
[04:14] <Draken> gay :P
[04:14] <vicky> ja
[04:14] <vicky>  :d
[04:14] <pery> how i can patch madwifi drivers for monitor mode????????
[04:14] <diederick> gnomefreak, do you maybe know why the install isn't working? it stops sometimes at the keyboard selection, and hardware detection
[04:14] <fizzle> Draken, it may be to you but not me.
[04:14] <fizzle> Draken, also im not a noob so pls dont imply it ;)
[04:15] <Draken> sure u not :P
[04:15] <gnomefreak> diederick, is it a disk you burned?
[04:15] <fizzle> hehe ive been programming in linux for over a year and a half now ;)
[04:15] <diederick> yes I burned it on a CD-R
[04:15] <mwe> pery: unless google can help you find a patch that does what you want, you gotta edit the source code yourself, I guess
[04:15] <vicky> eej
[04:15] <gnomefreak> diederick, what speed did you burn it on?
[04:15] <vicky> twenty four
[04:15] <pery> mwe ok :D
[04:16] <cycom> fizzle: Ah, but it is no quantity, but quality.
[04:16] <diederick> 16x
[04:16] <fizzle> cycom, heh
[04:16] <gnomefreak> diederick,  try burning it again at the lowest speed possible
[04:16] <zix> ahh
[04:16] <fizzle> anyways
[04:16] <zix> so their name is screenfonts
[04:16] <diederick> but do you think its a CD problem?
[04:16] <sire1__> is it possible to install debian packages with dpkg -i without having any problems with dependencies and so on..?
[04:16] <zix> Toma-, search for "screenfonts" ^_^
[04:16] <vicky> LAURA RULEZZZ
[04:16] <fizzle> im new to ubuntu so is there a different routine for installing the nvidia graphics drivers?
[04:16] <cycom> Draken: what do you do with your machine(s)?
[04:16] <butcherbird> fizzle: you wanted to enable root pass?
[04:16] <vicky> oeps :s
[04:16] <diederick> I can boot from the CD,
[04:16] <fizzle> butcherbird, yes
[04:16] <Draken> cycon, mostly programming in linux
[04:17] <Draken> and windows for games
[04:17] <luis_> holaaaaaaaaaaaa
[04:17] <cycom> Draken: what kind of programming?
[04:17] <fizzle> Draken, ahhh i use linux for games, so much better even in cedega
[04:17] <mwe> fizzle: did you read the nvidia wiki?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> diederick, well its either that or bad iso image i dont think its the pc since it stops at different places
[04:17] <fizzle> mwe, nope thats why im here trying to find a link to it
[04:17] <Draken> cedega doesnt work with ubuntu dont think
[04:17] <cortez_> how do i make iptables load at boot?
[04:17] <mwe> !tell fizzle about nvidia
[04:17] <zalaam> gnome will not start, .xsession_errors says: window manager warning: lost connection to the display ':0
[04:17] <diederick> ok
[04:17] <fizzle> Draken, im sure it does, just not for you ;)
[04:17] <kino-tak> how do I create a new user guys?
[04:17] <kino-tak> this is easy, come on
[04:17] <mwe> fizzle: see what ubotu /msg'ed you
[04:18] <fizzle> mwe, yeah
[04:18] <fizzle> mwe, ty
[04:18] <Draken> !cedega
[04:18] <ubotu> cedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[04:18] <dukebody> kino-tak, maybe with $adduser
[04:18] <kino-tak> ok, thanx
[04:18] <dukebody> hello anybody can $telnet pop3.telefonica.net 110? i'm having problems with my pop server and i don't know if there is a server problem or the problem is in my system-
[04:18] <cycom> bah.  I haven't got time for games.  I use my machines for work!  Only one of my machines has Windows on it, my laptop, and it dual boots ubuntu!
[04:18] <gnomefreak> diederick, i dont see the errors but i will tell you to burn it slower because its the easiest and alot of people dont know that you need to burn iso at low speeds
[04:18] <jenda> OK, it seems to be installing the driver... but it is also downloading the kernel, which I'm not sure I like... what is the newest 686 linux kernel?
[04:18] <squid0> hi people
[04:19] <zalaam> gnome will not start, .xsession_errors says: window manager warning: lost connection to the display ':0'; most likely the x server was shutdown or you killed/destroyed the window manger. any1 knows what to do? i hate to reinstall, cause i've been working for a week now to get my system up running
[04:19] <diederick> oke thanx gnomefreak!
[04:19] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:19] <Toma-> kino-tak: System >Admin > Users and groups. Be sure to make the new user with their own /home dir, ad adduser command wont do it by default
[04:19] <diederick> does my computer has to be connected to a network?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> jenda,  stable kernel for ubuntu latest is 2.6.12-10
[04:19] <squid0> i had a normal ubuntu installed, and then installed kubuntu-desktop. however i see that xine and some related packages were removed by synaptic. any ideas why?
[04:19] <__Dwayne> dukebody: I can telnet just fine..
[04:19] <jenda> It is installing Linux-image-1.6.12-10-686... ah thanx gnomefreak
[04:19] <mwe> zalaam: reinstall. why you even think of that. that's the windows way of fixing things
[04:20] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12-10-686 sounds about right jenda if your on breezy that should be your kernel
[04:20] <Fr0Gs> if anyone can help me setup pppoe sharing to windows machines msg me plz
[04:20] <kino-tak> duke: thank you , it works
[04:20] <fizzle> now ubuntu is running alot better just need to get roots password set lol
[04:20] <Toma-> zalaam: try moving .gnome2 and .gconf to a backup dir then restart gnome
[04:21] <zalaam> Toma-: alright, brb
[04:21] <Pygi> gnomfreaky is here :P
[04:21] <gnomefreak> gm Pygi
[04:21] <Pygi> fizzle: do not set root password
[04:22] <Pygi> freak: good afternoon :P
[04:22] <fizzle> Pygi, i need to do something
[04:22] <jenda> gnomefreak, mwe, what does nvidia-config enable do? Does that only change the xorg.conf? If so I prefer not to do it (manually is the way :))
[04:22] <__Dwayne> fizzle: Use sudo..
[04:22] <Pygi> fizzle: no, you don't need it....
[04:22] <gnomefreak> whats wrong with sudo -i?
[04:22] <fizzle> ok nvm then
[04:22] <afief> How can i copy files(not ISOs) to a CD?
[04:22] <Pygi> enabling root account break parts of ubuntu
[04:22] <Pygi> afief: yesh
[04:23] <Pygi> afief: with gnome baker let's say
[04:23] <gnomefreak> afief, what burner are you using?
[04:23] <Pygi> or k3b
[04:23] <diederick> gnomefreak, the LiveCD is for testing right?
[04:23] <Pygi> yesh
[04:23] <afief> pygi: hi dude:) installed KDE today. don't know what burner exactly... DVD+-RW
[04:23] <gnomefreak> diederick, the livecd is used for people that want to try it out before installing it
[04:24] <diederick> Can't I just try that one, and than, if it works put the LiveCD on my maching? Or do I need to downlod the other ubuntu?
[04:24] <Draken> !cedega
[04:24] <ubotu> methinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[04:24] <Pygi> afief: then use k3b :)
[04:24] <gnomefreak> diederick, if you hardware works with livecd more than likely it will work aftter install :))
[04:24] <zalaam> not working, stops after the login manager
[04:24] <afief> pygi: haven't got time to get around all of KDE:) so a gnome solution would be nice for a starter like me
[04:24] <Pygi> diederick: you need to download install cd for now
[04:24] <Pygi> afief: ok, then use Gnome Baker
[04:25] <diederick> oke, wanna try to set the keyboard map, maybee something is wrong with tha, is "es" a good options for: bootkbd ?
[04:25] <Pygi> diederick: as of 6.04 Ubuntu will feature UbuntuExpress
[04:25] <gnomefreak> afief, use k3b its the easiest atleast for me you can choose if you are burning data music or or image :))
[04:25] <Pygi> !ubuntuexpress
[04:25] <Kr0ntab> !google
[04:25] <ubotu> Pygi: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, google is a very popular internet search engine at http://www.google.com - They also run Gmail at http://www.gmail.com as a free E-mail service.
[04:25] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[04:25] <zzzzzzzzzzzzzz> !google
[04:25] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[04:25] <Pygi> gnomefreak: same with gnome baker
[04:25] <Draken> err, is tthere someone wrong with ubuntu site ?
[04:25] <Draken> i cant get onto it
[04:25] <Pygi> DO NOT ABUSE UBOTU, NOW STOP IT
[04:25] <gnomefreak> ok
[04:25] <Pygi> Draken: huh, it's all good :/
[04:26] <xukun> how can I copy files from one linux machine to other linux machine on the same network?
[04:26] <Draken> arg
[04:26] <fizzle> dude this is sweet, i switched to ubuntu from slackware and my video card performance in glxgears doubled
[04:26] <Draken> i need to read about cedega
[04:26] <deltron> lol fizzle
[04:26] <fizzle> im dead serious
[04:26] <Pygi> fizzled: well, you didn't knew how to configure it properly :P
[04:26] <zalaam> i need help getting into gnome, after the login manger nothing happens
[04:26] <fizzle> Pygi, nope not true, i did what #slackware told me to do lol
[04:26] <hyakuhei> xukun: ftp/scp
[04:27] <Pygi> I use Slackware for 8.5 years now, and it works flawlessly :)
[04:27] <fizzle> slackware is nice
[04:27] <fizzle> i love it ;)
[04:27] <Pygi> fizzle: well, you need to listen to me, not to them :P
[04:27] <fizzle> ubotu, tell me about limewire
[04:27] <hyakuhei> xukun: both good for the odd file
[04:27] <fizzle> Pygi,  lol
[04:27] <Pygi> I use slackware since 2.x so I guess I learned a couple of things :)
[04:27] <deltron> i started out in slack 3.5 way back when
[04:27] <fizzle> Pygi, id say so lol. i been using it since 10.0
[04:28] <fizzle> heh i only been on linux for a year or so now
[04:28] <jenda> OK, I need to know how to check if I have the rught kernel and NVidia driver. Can someone please tell me how? I need to know if it's 686 or 386, and if it's 1.6.12-10 or -9
[04:28] <claudiu> happy new year!
[04:28] <claudiu> hi all!
[04:28] <Pygi> deltron: Slack 3.5? huh :)
[04:28] <athlon> jenda, 'uname -a'
[04:28] <zalaam> jenda: uname -r
[04:28] <claudiu> how can i see what files a deb package contains ?
[04:28] <gnomefreak> jenda, 2.6.12-10 not 1.6.12
[04:28] <Pygi> deltron: slack 2.x series was better :)
[04:28] <afief> pygi: where does gnome baker install? KDE added so much to my gnome menus that i'm having trouble finding anything
[04:29] <Pygi> afief: it doesn't add to menu :/
[04:29] <jenda> gnomefreak yup... :), athlon zalaam thx
[04:29] <gnomefreak> jenda if you want to check what kernel you are using run uname -r
[04:29] <Pygi> somebody is a bad maintainer :/
[04:29] <claudiu> how can i see what files a deb package contains ?
[04:29] <zalaam> i need help getting into gnome, after the login manger nothing happens, tried backing up .gnome2 and .gconf, don't work :(
[04:29] <gnomefreak> if you want all info uname -a
[04:29] <Pygi> claudiu, read ubotu speaking
[04:29] <deltron> Pygi: lol, it was like 10 years ago or something :P
[04:29] <Pygi> !patience
[04:29] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:29] <Fr0Gs> i have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?
[04:29] <afief> pygi: what's it's executable name?
[04:29] <claudiu> Pygi: ok
[04:29] <Pygi> deltron: not 10, I would say 9 or like so when there was 2.x series :)
[04:30] <Pygi> afief: gnome baker :)
[04:30] <Toma-> zalaam: looks more deep seeded then. you may need to re-install metacity :S
[04:30] <fizzle> !javadebs
[04:30] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[04:30] <Draken> can anyone get onto the wiki ?
[04:30] <Pygi> deltron: entire slack is around for 10 years :P
[04:30] <athlon> Can someone please  give me a suggestion, what should I use to edit xvid file, to crop and/or extract audio from it
[04:30] <athlon> I usually use avidemux but theres no package for it in breezy
[04:30] <zalaam> Toma-: alright, brb, reinstalling
[04:30] <Pygi> I never got my hands on Slack 1.0 :(
[04:30] <jenda> OK, now that'll tell me what kernel I'm running ATM, but I have a suspicion that I accidentally just installed 386, how do I know what kernel is set up for next time I boot?
[04:30] <sportman> hey
[04:31] <sportman> if i broke grub
[04:31] <sportman> can i fix it from ubuntu live?
[04:31] <afief> pygi: restarting now to see the KDE interface:) expecting a big surprise
[04:31] <butcherbird> sportman: yes
[04:31] <WildZeck> spo0nman, yes
[04:31] <Pygi> afief: huh, I never liked KDE, but heh :)
[04:31] <sportman> Yey
[04:31] <Pygi> some people do, and I respect their opinion :)
[04:31] <gnomefreak> jenda, look in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file to see what grub is going to boot to
[04:31] <sportman> also i lost my ubuntu install
[04:31] <Pygi> everybody uses what he/she likes :)
[04:31] <sportman> :(
[04:31] <jenda> k
[04:31] <Pygi> huh :/
[04:32] <claudiu> i would like to know if there is a command for showing all the files that a deb package contains
[04:32] <sportman> but i still want to access my other two operating systems
[04:32] <sportman> but im giving up with ubuntu for now
[04:32] <Pygi> claudiu: go to synaptic, choose package and click properties
[04:32] <gnomefreak> dpkg -L <packagename?
[04:32] <Pygi> and please be patient :P
[04:32] <claudiu> Pygi: ok. thanks
[04:32] <Pygi> deltron: what do you have agains 9 years old distro? :D
[04:32] <butcherbird> claudiu: try dpkg --contents filemane.deb
[04:33] <claudiu> Pygi: this was too easy. i was prepared for the CLI thing
[04:33] <claudiu> :)
[04:33] <Pygi> claudiu: heh, wanna CLI command? :D
[04:33] <deltron> Pygi: lol, nothing. :)  I should try installing it again lol, I still have the cd's
[04:33] <Pygi> deltron: Do you have version 1.0? :)
[04:33] <Pygi> I want that :)
[04:33] <deltron> nope
[04:33] <Pygi> huh :/
[04:34] <jenda> OK... now what is the command to restart GDM?
[04:34] <Pygi> I had 2.x series on a CD *original but lost them :/
[04:34] <Pygi> jenda: just use CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[04:34] <butcherbird> jenda: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:34] <jenda> thx butcherbird
[04:34] <afief> pygi: i can't chose KDE:( it automaticly started gnome
[04:34] <mcquaid> hey i read on a general linux tips article that ctrl alt esc usually starts up the xkill option
[04:34] <Pygi> afief: you need to make it start kde :)
[04:35] <afief> how?
[04:35] <mcquaid> that would be kinda handy
[04:35] <Pygi> have you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[04:35] <mcquaid> doesn't work here though
[04:35] <fizzle> ubotu, repositories
[04:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:35] <afief> pygi: nope, did apt-get kde
[04:35] <Pygi> afief: hehe, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <Pygi> huh, you also need kde-base, and configure it to run
[04:36] <afief> pygi: and what is kubuntu-live?
[04:36] <Pygi> huh,nothing for now :)
[04:36] <Draken> can someone help me, i downloaded cedega binary, i type SH filename it seems to uncompress but thats it
[04:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntu with kde livecd
[04:36] <Pygi> gnomefreak: no, thats not it...
[04:36] <trilog> hello
[04:36] <mcquaid> i've been pulling my hair out trying to fix my alsa issues since going to breezy when it was first released
[04:36] <afief> pygi: wow... ever after i installed KDE, i still need 50 MB? that's a lot
[04:36] <Pygi> gnomefreak: thats a dependency of new UbuntuExpress installation
[04:37] <Snurf> When I installed Ubuntu i installed GRUB on the master hard drive and I want it gone! How do i do this?
[04:37] <Pygi> afief: for kubuntu-desktop?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> Pygi, oh ok dont know anything about ubuntuexpress
[04:37] <mcquaid> the strange thing is i've always used my own precompiled kernel and compiled alsa from source, which i kept when going to breezy
[04:37] <Pygi> draken: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[04:37] <afief> pygi: yes
[04:37] <trilog> i have samba, can somebody tell me howto samba printer share works?
[04:37] <mcquaid> so i don't understand having alsa issues when neither alsa nor the kernel were upgraded
[04:37] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: I was supposed to also developed that thingy :/
[04:37] <Pygi> !patience
[04:37] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:38] <Draken> Pygi, , not that one
[04:38] <Draken> its offical one
[04:38] <butcherbird> Snurf: ?? you want to replace grub on mbr with something else?
[04:38] <cvt|gnuyear> where's bittornado installed?
[04:38] <Snurf> Yes I dont want grub there
[04:39] <Pygi> what do you want then?
[04:39] <slumpy> whats worng?? i have those irritating flashing vertical lines!!! and i cant get rid of them.....
[04:39] <Snurf> Nothing
[04:39] <slumpy> pls help...
[04:39] <Snurf> Slap your monitor
[04:39] <slumpy> =D
[04:39] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, you have to install that gbittorrent is install by default
[04:40] <slumpy> thats not the way to solve this problem
[04:40] <Snurf> I need to know how to remove grub
[04:40] <mcquaid> anyone knowledgeable with alsa issues? specifically i get issues with when using dmix or alsa hw, but strangely not using esd piped through dmix nor oss emulation
[04:40] <gnomefreak> slumpy, it sounds like your video card either isnt configured right or you need drivers for it
[04:41] <Fr0Gs> i have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?
[04:41] <Fr0Gs> i have setup a pppoe connection on my ubuntu machine how do i share it to my windows machines?
[04:41] <claudiu> butcherbird: Pygi : ok. thanks guys. you rock
[04:41] <zalaam> okei, tried reinstalling metacity nothing happens
[04:41] <slumpy> so where can i find those drivers its not like i could get those windos using.....
[04:41] <Pygi> claudiu: your welcome :)
[04:41] <jenda> Back, but still can't load X
[04:41] <gnomefreak> slumpy, first what kind of vc do you have?
[04:42] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, i need a bittorrent client that supports resuming downloads and one window for all files.
[04:42] <zalaam> cvt|gnuyear: azureus?
[04:42] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, the one installed by default does if im not mistaken
[04:42] <jenda> Can someone please guide me through the installation of the Nvidia driver module (via CLI?)
[04:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jenda about nvidida
[04:43] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, not on mine, but i have dapper
[04:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jenda  about nvidia
[04:43] <mcquaid> i still use azureus but still find java to be a pig
[04:43] <mcquaid> waiting for ktorrent to be updated
[04:43] <jenda> gnomefreak that won't help, it's still the same
[04:43] <slumpy> uhmmm .. i  dont remember and i dont know where to look..
[04:43] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, i havent used bit on dapper yet but im also on dapper :)
[04:43] <Snurf> I have Windows XP on my computer. I installed Ubuntu to my external hard drive and during installation I chose to install the GRUB thing on my main hard drive. Ubuntu had problems when booting and i dont know why so i uninstalled Ubuntu, now, when i start my computer grub says Error 21 or 22. I dont want grub there.... I want my computer to start up in Windows XP.
[04:43] <hyakuhei> !nvidia
[04:43] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:44] <Pygi> !patience
[04:44] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:44] <Pygi> STAND IN LINE AND WAIT FOR ANSWER :)
[04:44] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, are you saying it doesnt do what you want or its not there?
[04:44] <butcherbird> jenda: what nvidia card do u have?
[04:45] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, whatever client is there doesn't resume dl's or contain files in one window. apparently neither does tornado.
[04:45] <jenda> butcherbird: GeForce 2
[04:45] <phreak97> can someone help me install azureas?
[04:46] <Pygi> phreak: sure
[04:46] <Pygi> !azureus
[04:46] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:46] <Pygi> !java
[04:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:46] <Pygi> !javadebs
[04:46] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, im not sure than you can try that azureas but its very very java like :((
[04:46] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[04:46] <butcherbird> jenda: what kernel 686 or 386?
[04:47] <jenda> butcherbird 686, 2.6.12-10, and I have the nvidia-glx-legacy package already installed
[04:47] <Snurf>  I have Windows XP on my computer. I installed Ubuntu to my external hard drive and during installation I chose to install the GRUB thing on my main hard drive. Ubuntu had problems when booting and i dont know why so i uninstalled Ubuntu, now, when i start my computer grub says Error 21 or 22. I dont want grub there.... I want my computer to start up in Windows XP.
[04:48] <phreak97> i think i already have java
[04:48] <u|qos> hey guys, i started dctc in a screen console, but i am unable to terminate it ... what can i do?
[04:48] <__Dwayne> pygi, I ran sudo dexconf and nothing happened..
[04:48] <butcherbird> jenda: same as me all I did was sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-legacy linux-restricted-modules-686
[04:48] <petros> hi!
[04:48] <petros> i have ubuntu for amd64
[04:48] <petros> now i want to install skype binaries
[04:49] <Syche> snurf: Boot with a Xp disc and press R. Type Fixmbr yo rebuild the MBR
[04:49] <Pygi> Dwayne: yes, I heard :P Have you restarted X?
[04:49] <__Dwayne> pygi: no..how do I do that?
[04:49] <diederick> gnomefreak, its at 77% of detecting hardware now, its loading: ide-generic, (which I think is hanging again :-(
[04:49] <__Dwayne> just reboot??
[04:49] <petros> i get this error: ./skype: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:49] <cvt|gnuyear> how advanced to i have to be to get doom 3?
[04:49] <butcherbird> jenda: and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:49] <jenda> Snurf: there are instructions for 1) setting XP as default 2) hiding the grub menu on startup here: ubuntuguide.org but careful, don't use the guide on everything, some things are outdated.
[04:49] <petros> but libpong12.so.0 is in /usr/lib64/ installed
[04:49] <diederick> Why, do you have to burn an iso at a slow speed?
[04:49] <Snurf> I dont have an XP disc
[04:49] <Snurf> My computer came with it
[04:50] <petros> are the 64 bit libs not compatible with 32 bit compiled apps?
[04:50] <gnomefreak> diederick,  to make sure it copies everything
[04:50] <jenda> OK, butcherbird I didn't do the enable. Does that only change the xorg.conf?
[04:50] <diederick> oh oke
[04:50] <Pygi> Dwayne: CTRL+ ALT + BACKSPACE
[04:50] <gnomefreak> diederick, its just one of those rules :))
[04:50] <diederick> and do you know what could be a reason, why its stopping on 77% now?
[04:50] <diederick> at loading module: ide-generic?
[04:51] <gnomefreak> diederick, what kind of harddrives do you have?
[04:51] <phreak97> ok thanks
[04:51] <zix> why is the ubuntu font not included with ubuntu? i mean it's a perfect font for daily use :}
[04:51] <butcherbird> jenda: not sure it thats it or it configures module to load or what
[04:51] <diederick> Its a Maxtor IDE drive 7.5 gb
[04:51] <jenda> Alright... I'll do it then.
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell zix about fonts
[04:51] <gnomefreak> diederick, than im not sure why its hanging
[04:51] <pkern> How could I use special keys on my keyboard?
[04:52] <Pygi> gnomefreak; That won't help him :p
[04:52] <kevinz> Hi. I read the wiki and it says firefox from mozilla's site is faster than the one in ubuntu. It is recommended that I replace the default firefox?
[04:52] <diederick> Damn, it also again hanging at the first screen :-(
[04:52] <__Dwayne> pygi Nope..same problem
[04:52] <phreak97> fucking asshole.. settle down after finally getting my tv working with linux, watch one episode of lost, then the one after it is the same one again renamed by some ass...
[04:52] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i told him to burn it at lower speed that should have helped the issue
[04:53] <phreak97> and with delayed sound
[04:53] <jenda> butcherbird OK, it won't run because my xorg.conf has been edited manually (many times :)) so I dunno what to do...
[04:53] <phreak97> complete waste of space
[04:53] <Pygi> gnomefreak: problem with ubuntu font? :)
[04:53] <Pygi> dwayne: huh :/
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Pygi, on no thought you meant someone else
[04:53] <phreak97> this is the reason why im working azureus
[04:54] <Draken> can someone tell me, can i use cedega to run a windows game off a ntfs drive ?
[04:54] <phreak97> Draken,  if you can, you wont be able to save
[04:54] <butcherbird> jenda: maybe sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf xorg.conf-old then dpkg --reconfigure xserver-org I think thats the right package
[04:54] <Hendikins> Wouldn't advise it if the game needs to write anything
[04:55] <jenda> And I have nvidia-glx-legacy, I have nvidia-settings and I have the restricted modules....
[04:55] <Draken> phreak97, i can change save path to local drive ?
[04:55] <jenda> ok
[04:55] <phreak97> Draken,  if the game lets you
[04:55] <Hendikins> Draken: How long is a piece of string? Savegames may not be the only files that the game needs to write.
[04:55] <phreak97> things like that rely entirely on the game
[04:55] <phreak97> yeah
[04:55] <phreak97> i was about to say that
[04:56] <Draken> Hendikins, only other thing would be confs
[04:56] <diederick> Hmmmm also suse 10 is hanging on hardware detection
[04:56] <__Dwayne> pygi, it's darned annoying..some things require me to 'click administrator mode' and I can see the button to click it..
[04:56] <Draken> and they my windows confs
[04:56] <Pygi> Dwayne: huh :/
[04:57] <phreak97> Draken, if you can, put the game on a non-ntfs partitions
[04:57] <phreak97> -s
[04:57] <dotrig> Why is my imap dropping sqmail?
[04:57] <Hendikins> Draken: I'd also think trying to use registry data would be problematic.
[04:57] <__Dwayne> thanks for your help anyway..I posted this in kubuntu forums..maybe that will help..
[04:58] <zix> rofl
[04:58] <zix> :o
[04:58] <zix> the ubuntu-title font OWNS
[04:58] <jenda> butcherbird no, that's not the reconf comand. I dunno waht is...
[04:58] <Toma-> zix: yep :)~
[04:58] <zix> only the fact that there's no caps sucks
[04:58] <zix> :{
[04:58] <Toma-> zix: u get used to it
[04:58] <zix> i know :p
[04:59] <zix> also, Toma-, why don't you have the font enabled on the rest of your interface?
[04:59] <butcherbird> jenda: ah sorry sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:59] <Toma-> zix: it would make me go made.
[04:59] <Toma-> errr
[04:59] <Toma-> mad.
[04:59] <Toma-> zix: what a screenshot? :)
[04:59] <zix> yea
[04:59] <zix> want a screenshot of my desktop? ^_^
[05:00] <jenda> butcherbird yoba thanks :)
[05:00] <Toma-> zix: http://members.iinet.net.au/~haste/Screenshot.png
[05:00] <sobersabre> hi
[05:01] <sobersabre> I'm trying to use gdb on amd64 ubuntu and it dies with sigsegv. ( yes, gdb dies, not my program ) anyone has any idea about this ?
[05:01] <Kindred> does anyone know of any (relatively simple) way to shrink dvd's so I can burn them to single layer dvd :|
[05:01] <sobersabre> Kindred, not without quality loss.
[05:01] <Toma-> Kindred: you could use acidrip
[05:01] <zix> WOW wtf
[05:02] <zix> Toma-, that's beautifull!
[05:02] <Kindred> sobersabre: yeah obviously :P
[05:02] <Toma-> zix: thanks :)
[05:02] <Kindred> Toma-: will check it out thanks..
[05:02] <zix> yw :)
[05:02] <sobersabre> dvd::rip, and then encode them as you please
[05:02] <Syche> I have pinned my Java deb, but when I enable the plf repos, it always gives me an option to upgrade it
[05:02] <Toma-> ive got a thing for ambient backgrounds
[05:03] <Syche> Both are the same version
[05:03] <zix> Toma-, what theme you using there? and what programs are those on your toolbar? also, message it in pm since i won't get the time to read it here xD
[05:04] <Toma-> k
[05:04] <sobersabre> any ubuntu developers channels around ?
[05:05] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl again lol
[05:05] <afief> installed kubuntu-desktop. chose kdm to be the default maneger, and though i get a login with lot's of eyecandy, i still load into gnome
[05:05] <gnomefreak> sobersabre, not really atleast #ubuntu-devel isnt open
[05:06] <JoeBloe> anyone know anything about ubuntu rebooting when gnome loads using the 686-smp kernal?
[05:06] <afief> JoeBloe: at least not with my 686 kernel... don't know about smp though
[05:06] <Inf3ctedFx> not really
[05:07] <etech> hi, i have a problem with samba...
[05:07] <Inf3ctedFx> does someone use the VMWare?
[05:07] <defendguin> is the double click to install a deb file going to go into backports?
[05:07] <jenda> brb, rebooting
[05:07] <etech> i have already try in the italian channel
[05:07] <etech> but...
[05:08] <sls> i am a pine user...
[05:08] <gnomefreak> etech, #samba? if noone in here can help but im sure there are a few samba users in here
[05:08] <sls> bu i can not find where to set the default character encodings for the terminal windows...
[05:09] <gnomefreak> sls what term are you using?
[05:09] <sls> gnome terminal.
[05:09] <afief> How do i make KDE my Desktop Maneger, now that kubuntu desktop is installed?
[05:09] <Inf3ctedFx> someone familiar with the VMWare?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> sls they are under the termial menu between veiw and tabs
[05:09] <sls> I use konsole too
[05:10] <gnomefreak> ^^thats for gnome terminal
[05:10] <sls> gnomefreak, that only changes it for that session...
[05:10] <sls> right
[05:10] <phreak97> in azureus i get:
[05:10] <phreak97> Error: Data Missing /media/s/Bittorrent/Incoming/azureas incoming/Lost.S02E04.REAL.HDTV.XviD-TCM/lost.204-tcm.nfo not found.
[05:10] <sls> it does not seem to stick
[05:10] <phreak97> wait
[05:10] <phreak97> hmm
[05:10] <phreak97> yeah, whats with that
[05:11] <phreak97> isnt it meant to create the data?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> sls,  than im not sure how to get it perment sorry
[05:11] <Inf3ctedFx> is anyone familiar with the VMWare? I just go a few questions on the configuration regarding the kernel-headers
[05:11] <Hendikins> phreak97: tsk tsk, piracy
[05:11] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Don't ask to ask, just ask (-:
[05:11] <phreak97> Hendikins, that wasnt my enquiry
[05:11] <Pygi> mvo: pinf
[05:12] <Inf3ctedFx> lol ok Hendikins
[05:12] <phreak97> it says something about setlength
[05:12] <kino-tak> ok guys, this time I'm serious, I have a small problem
[05:12] <gnomefreak> kino-tak, feel free to ask
[05:13] <Inf3ctedFx> well this is my problem when I try to open the windows on the vmware it show me an error about /dev/vmmon  it said make sure the kernel module "vmmon" is loaded
[05:13] <kino-tak> I login as an ftp user but don't have permission to write in that directory (thank you gnome)
[05:13] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Have you upgraded your kernel since installing vmware?
[05:13] <kino-tak> even if I login from the shell I don't have permission and I dont have my own directory but this doesn't matter
[05:13] <Inf3ctedFx> nope I upgrade the kernel b4 install vmware Hendikins
[05:14] <kino-tak> if I login as another user I can do anything, so I can still work
[05:14] <gnomefreak> yw kino-tak  chmod will change the permissons of a dir/file
[05:14] <Inf3ctedFx> look Hendikins  this is my /usr/src  --> inf3ctedfx@fx:/usr/src$ ls
[05:14] <Inf3ctedFx> linux-headers-2.6.12-10  linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686
[05:14] <phreak97> error: operation not permitted, setLength fails (allocateFiles [file paths here.. im not typing them] )
[05:14] <kino-tak> chmod +rwx username?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> kino-tak, your not loggin in as a sudoer
[05:14] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :
[05:14] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :?
[05:14] <phreak97> so what do i do?
[05:14] <kino-tak> gnome : no, as a normal user
[05:15] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Do you remember running vmware-config.pl?
[05:15] <kino-tak> gnome : i created a new user to distribute among users and let them login through ftp
[05:15] <gnomefreak> kino-tak, normal users dont have access to files owned by a sudoer
[05:15] <kino-tak> gnome : I see, so I use chmod?
[05:15] <ubuntu_> no clue anyone :
[05:15] <ubuntu_> ?
[05:15] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm running that again Hendikins  for the second time.. and I got this point  :  What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:15] <Inf3ctedFx> kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build/include] 
[05:16] <Inf3ctedFx> but my path is here Hendikins --> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/include
[05:16] <gnomefreak> unless ofcourse you use sudo chmod :)) to change the ownership and no it wouldnt be user name it would be file name
[05:16] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Leave that as default.
[05:16] <Inf3ctedFx> it wont work Hendikins
[05:16] <Inf3ctedFx> I already done that as a default
[05:17] <Hendikins> and what error does it give when you leave the default?
[05:17] <kino-tak> gnome: I tried, it says (username) is not in the sudoers file....this incident will be reported
[05:17] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u something Hendikins
[05:18] <phreak97> fucking what the hell
[05:18] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Remember to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting
[05:18] <gnomefreak> kino-tak,  than you need to either add your name to the sudoers list or log in as the sudoer
[05:18] <phreak97> why cant azureus create new files?
[05:18] <Inf3ctedFx> I know Hendikins  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6486
[05:18] <Jnx> How do I get the rights to open my NTFS disks? - I can open them as a root, but not as a user.
[05:18] <butcherbird> phreak97: most likely you dont own the dir its trying to save to. something like that
[05:18] <Jnx> Can I give my regular user root access?
[05:19] <Inf3ctedFx> Hendikins:  I dont have "include" in that folder
[05:19] <kino-tak> being a sudoer: does it mean, I can use the sudo command?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Jnx, sudo -i
[05:19] <LiGhTeNiN> I got 'error 21' while trying to boot with grub, I did 'fixmbr' under windows recovery console, can someone help me reintsall grub now and get rid of the error 21?
[05:19] <Inf3ctedFx> well I do... but it said is not compatible
[05:19] <Jnx> thanks gnomefreak
[05:19] <gnomefreak> Kindred, for the most part
[05:19] <phreak97> butcherbird, so if i chown it and chmod 755 it, ill be cool?
[05:19] <gnomefreak> not Kindred  sorry i mean kino-tak
[05:19] <Pygi> Lightenin: huh, the easiest is to reinstall ubuntu
[05:19] <Pygi> :/
[05:19] <butcherbird> phreak97: should be all u need to do
[05:19] <LiGhTeNiN> :<
[05:19] <phreak97> actually, im saving it to my home dir
[05:19] <kino-tak> ok gnome, I'll try this too and let you know :-)
[05:20] <gnomefreak> kino-tak,  whos on the sudoers list?
[05:20] <phreak97> butcherbird,  whats then? it doesnt work in my home dir
[05:20] <Jnx> gnomefreak, I still get that I don't have the rights to show HDA1, HDB1 etc.
[05:20] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: what about the 'error 21'? I have to set my linux hdd to auto under bios?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> Jnx, did you mount them yet?
[05:20] <Jnx> yea
[05:20] <Jnx> I can access from my root user
[05:20] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: and uname -a says you're running which kernel version?
[05:21] <Inf3ctedFx> anbd Hendikins  this is one of the other errors I'm getting when I try to run the vmware-config.pl  -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6487
[05:21] <Jnx> so I wanna make this user a root. So I don't have to re-configure the looks etc. on my root user.
[05:21] <butcherbird> running azureus as yourself? what about hd space? other than that not sure. maybe u created a dir in home with sudo accidently
[05:21] <Inf3ctedFx> Hendikins:  Linux fx 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:21] <gnomefreak> Jnx, you enabled a root account?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> or sorry root password?
[05:21] <Pygi> lightenin: don't know about that error, but grub is *hard* to fix for a regular user :/
[05:21] <Jnx> gnomefreak, yeah. I use it when I access the harddrives from the root user
[05:21] <Johnny0> Can anyone recommend some commercial help for Ubuntu ?
[05:22] <Pygi> No, do not use root :/
[05:22] <LiGhTeNiN> Pygi: what do you use lilo or grub?
[05:22] <gnomefreak> Jnx, by root you mean su?
[05:22] <Pygi> Lightenin: I use grub....
[05:22] <phreak97> butcherbird,  no good
[05:22] <LiGhTeNiN> ok
[05:22] <Pygi> Lightenin: Lilo is easier to fix tho :P
[05:22] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Hrm. Ubuntu isn't my native distro, so I'm not really sure what to suggest. Do you have the kernel sources installed?
[05:22] <gnomefreak> grub is installed by deafault why screw around making a change to lilo :(
[05:23] <Jnx> gnomefreak, I mean, I log out, log in with username: root and root password. When I do that I can access my harddrives.
[05:23] <Inf3ctedFx> not really Hendikins  which distro r u familliar with?
[05:23] <greenpenguin13> how would i be able to find what driver my wireless card uses on ubuntu?
[05:23] <butcherbird> phreak97: hmm sorry
[05:23] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD :
[05:23] <ubuntu_> How I Install Java for mozzila on ubuntu live CD ?
[05:23] <avinoam> can anyone help me troubleshoot a problem with hearing IM sounds in gaim?
[05:23] <Pygi> you cant do t on live cd
[05:23] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: I'm a SuSE user myself. I've been working on some ubuntu-specific bits for some documentation I write, hence being in here.
[05:23] <defendguin> how can i play a wav file through the command line?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Jnx, than i dont know what to say other than to log in as root "i say that very loosely"
[05:24] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, shoot (regarding VMware)
[05:24] <Toma-> defendguin: aplay wave.wav
[05:24] <Hendikins> and I use vmware 5.5 on SuSE
[05:24] <defendguin> Toma-, that uses alsa?
[05:24] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_, the reason for live cd is so you can use ubuntu without installing anything
[05:24] <Toma-> defendguin: yep
[05:24] <greenpenguin13> ubuntu_: you'd have to master you're own CD (dont ask me how :/)
[05:24] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, a friend wrote your question to  me...
[05:24] <Inf3ctedFx> Here is the error again when I run vmware:  Version mismatch with vmon, module: expectiong 137.0, got 122.0  You have an incorrect version of the "vmmon" kernel module.  Try reinstalling VMWare workstation
[05:24] <gnomefreak> greenpenguin13, how?? lol j/k
[05:24] <barrett_> gah
[05:24] <Jnx> gnomefreak, can't I give this-user root rights?
[05:25] <Hendikins> ubuntu_: The short version is "You don't"
[05:25] <avinoam> I don't hear sounds when  i get an IM in Gaim, although according to the options, i should
[05:25] <greenpenguin13> anyone? where would i be able to find what driver my wireless card uses?
[05:25] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: You're running 5.5?
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> yes Hendikins
[05:25] <Toma-> Inf3ctedFx: did you rebuild the module?
[05:25] <deltron> greenpenguin13: google your card model
[05:25] <gnomefreak> Jnx, yes but not advisable root/sudo is not something to take lightly
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> I have no idea how to rebuild a module Toma-  xD
[05:25] <Toma-> oh :(
[05:25] <Hendikins> Toma-: First thing I was getting at... vmware-config.pl handles that
[05:25] <ubuntu_> Pygi, Hendikins greenpenguin13 gnomefreak   why ? A friend tell to me I only need put a file and do a "ls" to the dir of mozilla plugin and java will work
[05:26] <Hendikins> ubuntu_: Not on a livecd. You can't write files to it.
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  did u read it?
[05:26] <Toma-> you'll need to use export CC=gcc-3.4 before compiling i do believe.
[05:26] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, yes, now I did :-)
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> Toma-:  I already done that
[05:26] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_, you cant install anything from live-cd except mozilla and OOo for windows
[05:26] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, what version of VMware are you running?
[05:26] <Hendikins> Toma-: Apparently he doesn't have a /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build/include
[05:26] <ubuntu_> Hendikins,  no, I wanna do this "on the fly" only on the ram. download the file to ram, and link with ls
[05:27] <Hendikins> and he's using 5.5
[05:27] <greenpenguin13> link cc to gcc in /usr/bin - saves time next time :)
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> I folloed this howto:  -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  Is the 5.5 I believe
[05:27] <ubuntu_> Hellsashes, not really on the CD
[05:27] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, I can say how I / we at VMware are doing it, and getting it to work...
[05:28] <phreak97> anyone here help with this error?
[05:28] <phreak97> Error: Operation not permitted, setLength fails (allocateFiles new:/media/s/Bittorrent/Torrents/Lost.S02E04.HR.HDTV.AC3.5.1.XviD-CTU.avi)
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> but why is the error roth ?
[05:28] <phreak97> in azureas
[05:28] <phreak97> azureus*
[05:28] <Toma-> phreak97: it means the FBI are tracing you
[05:28] <gnomefreak> lol Toma-
[05:28] <Toma-> :D~
[05:28] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, first we get the correct headers,then get gcc-3.X (depending on what kernel you have), link /usr/bin/gcc-3.X to /usr/bin/gcc and thats it
[05:28] <gnomefreak> sorry phreak97 i wouldnt be caught dead using that app
[05:28] <damnhil> I am problems installing skype on Hoary. I had libqt3c102-mt incorrect
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> hahahah good one Toma-
[05:28] <phreak97> Toma-,  i think its much more likely theres something wrong with azureus
[05:28] <Toma-> phreak97: what filesystem is the /media/s/ drive?
[05:28] <gnomefreak> !skype
[05:29] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  I already done that
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> let me show u how did I install vmware
[05:29] <phreak97> gnomefreak, what do you recommend?
[05:29] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, but you shouldnt need to compile anything with ubuntu and ws 5.5, since it comes with precompiled working modules...
[05:29] <Hendikins> roth: What about errata kernels?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> something that doesnt use java to run :))
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  this is the howto That I folloed: -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[05:29] <phreak97> gnomefreak, i just want something similar to bitcomet
[05:30] <roth> Hendikins, which is ?
[05:30] <butcherbird> phreak97: can u run with 'sudo azureus &' as a workaround?
[05:30] <Toma-> phreak97: what filesystem is the /media/s/ drive?
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> that howto said get the essential-> apt-get install build-essential
[05:30] <phreak97> its fat32
[05:30] <greenpenguin13> gottit :)
[05:30] <gnomefreak> phreak97, i use the default one when in need of one but i dont use bittorrents alot
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> Make sure you have your kernel headers installed:
[05:30] <phreak97> owned by me
[05:30] <phreak97> ok
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> doind a uname -r
[05:30] <Inf3ctedFx> then apt-get install linux-headers-'kernel version'
[05:30] <phreak97> butcherbird, lemme see
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> If you are getting the gcc version error, you will need to install the version that compiled your kernel:
[05:31] <gnomefreak> build-essential is needed if you gonna do any writing or compiling of programs
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> # cat /proc/version
[05:31] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, I would use the vmware supported vmware-config script. nothing else...
[05:31] <gnomefreak> hence the word essential :))
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> so how can I do that roth ?
[05:31] <phreak97> butcherbird, same error
[05:31] <Jnx> gnomefreak, at least. I have this folder I can't copy from. I copyed some music with my root user from HDA1 to /media/music and when I'm on my regular user I can't use them. Something about rights. How do I fix that?
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  did u check the howto?
[05:32] <gnomefreak> well or you can grab each program one by one and hope you dont forget any :))
[05:32] <Toma-> phreak97: try recieving onto an ext3 filesystem. see if it fixes it
[05:32] <phreak97> the program runs, but it gives that error in the status column of any torrent i give it
[05:32] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, yes, there are some bad stuff in the end
[05:32] <phreak97> Toma-,  i dont have one
[05:32] <phreak97> my fs is reiser
[05:32] <roth> one shouldnt use any other stuff than what we provide
[05:32] <gnomefreak> Jnx, if you did anything as root you need to have root access to open it
[05:32] <Toma-> ...youre running ubuntu on fat32?
[05:32] <phreak97> and i already tried that
[05:32] <roth> not download scripts from other servers...
[05:32] <Toma-> oic
[05:32] <phreak97> im running it on reiser
[05:32] <Toma-> ok
[05:32] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh oks roth  so do I have to do everytrhing again?
[05:32] <roth> just tar zxvf VMware-workstation-5.5-18463 (or what it now was)
[05:32] <rohan> hi all
[05:32] <Jnx> gnomefreak, so what I have to do is to just start using my root account as my standard account? :P
[05:32] <rohan> where do i get qt4 4.1 packages for ubuntu from ?
[05:32] <roth> then cd vmware-distrib
[05:33] <gnomefreak> my advice is to not do anything as root unless you have to
[05:33] <roth> link  gcc
[05:33] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  now how can I remove the one I already have?
[05:33] <thrice`> rohan, lol for what?
[05:33] <phreak97> Toma-,  how do i reinstall azureus?
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jnx about root
[05:33] <rohan> thrice`: to learn qt4
[05:33] <roth> then run the installer and let it invoke vmware-config.pl
[05:33] <butcherbird> phreak97: sorry boss is yelling at me gota go
[05:33] <phreak97> lol ttyl
[05:33] <Toma-> phreak97: do you really ned to re-install? or do you just want a fresh config?
[05:33] <phreak97> Toma-, ?
[05:33] <phreak97> i honestly dont know Toma-
[05:34] <phreak97> what do you reckon?
[05:34] <phreak97> probably a fresh instal
[05:34] <phreak97> and config
[05:34] <phreak97> wait
[05:34] <phreak97> try fresh config first
[05:34] <Toma-> phreak97: ok, well, try rename ~/.azureus to something else and run azureus again
[05:34] <phreak97> how do i do that?
[05:34] <phreak97> ok
[05:34] <Toma-> rename/move/delete
[05:34] <LFA> hi
[05:34] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on roth dont go I have to restart my machine is making wired noises
[05:35] <Hendikins> roth: Aren't users fun?
[05:35] <Toma-> o gosh. a hamburger ad was just on tv :( im so hungry
[05:35] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, remove the vmware-distrib folder. do 1-5 on the howto.  then just do ./vmware-install.pl or whatever it is called and let it fork off the vmware-config.pl. you-re set. no need for compilation of ws5.5 on ubunto. the usual kernel modules are supported
[05:35] <rohan> !qt4
[05:35] <ubotu> No idea, rohan
[05:35] <rohan> :P
[05:35] <roth> Hendikins, always :)
[05:36] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Because Windows has never done the right thing as far as root access goes, and many users come from Windows?
[05:36] <Gecko> Hey there. I have a somewhat slow laptop, it's 600mhz and only 192 mb ram. I have been running gnome, but it's too slow for me. Your documentation states that running xfce is a credible solution for older hardware, which I of course agree. However I cannot really get used to xfce. I find it impersonal, and reminds me too much of CDE. Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[05:36] <Toma-> Gecko: fluxbox?
[05:36] <rohan> fluxbox is worse than xfce for you, Gecko
[05:36] <Hendikins> roth: I deal with Firefox users. One could argue that they're more fun ;-)
[05:36] <rohan> try kde, but i am not really expecting it to be any faster, Gecko
[05:36] <Gecko> rohan, well, at least it doens't remind me of cde ;)
[05:37] <roth> Hendikins, hehe, guess there are more FF users than VMware
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: tho' as kde uses preloading, apps will open faster.
[05:37] <phreak97> Toma-,  same deal
[05:37] <roth> Hendikins, and I have only worked at vmware for 6 months...
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: cos even i use kde on my piii 550mhz XD
[05:37] <Gecko> rohan, that's an excelent suggestion
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: i hope you are not being sarcastic :|
[05:37] <Toma-> phreak97: could be a dodgy torrent?
[05:37] <Hendikins> roth: More users, more platforms, more interactions with third party code... yeah, lots of fun. I'm doing this stuff on a voluntary basis too :/
[05:37] <Gecko> rohan, I am not :)
[05:37] <cvt|gnuyear> is it possible that xine is using 200mB of ram?
[05:37] <rohan> Gecko: heh, ok. then go ahead, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop !!!
[05:38] <rohan> install kde 3.5 tho' its better
[05:38] <Gecko> rohan, I wasn't aware of the preloading, so it might just work
[05:38] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: yep
[05:38] <Gecko> rohan, will I get the choice?
[05:38] <Flummi> hello, ive got a question related to ubuntu 5.10: how do i background the starting of the network-interfaces (wlan if eth0 is not plugged in)?
[05:38] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: it might not be using it, but it might be caching it
[05:38] <rohan> Gecko: no. wait a mo'
[05:38] <roth> Hendikins, hehe... I dont :-) A friend on another network and channel just thought I could help out...
[05:38] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, isn't that a lot?
[05:38] <phreak97> Toma-,  im using two different ones
[05:38] <rohan> Gecko: see this, to get kde 3.5
[05:38] <rohan> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[05:39] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: its cache. who cares :)
[05:39] <Hendikins> roth: I'm sort of lurking for the same reason, but for Firefox/Mozilla.
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> Ohh nooo God the aliens came for meee
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> xDD
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  r u still here? xD
[05:39] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: is it p[laying a big movie?
[05:39] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i don't know exactly what that means in this case
[05:39] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, yes
[05:39] <Toma-> phreak97: well im not sure then.
[05:39] <Hendikins> roth: I'm pretty high up in upstream's support tree, which is a blessing/curse :P
[05:39] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, 180mB file
[05:39] <roth> Hendikins, sweet :-)
[05:39] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me try to run the vmware-config.pl from the vmware folder
[05:39] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: is it avi?
[05:40] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, good idea :-)
[05:40] <rohan> Gecko: basically, just, "echo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:40] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, hmm, not from the vmware folder
[05:40] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, wmv
[05:40] <fizzle> does ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd
[05:40] <Gecko> But tell me one thing: Am I getting old? Because I keep using the phrase "now, back when I started using linux..."
[05:40] <Inf3ctedFx> from where.. the vmware-distro folder right?
[05:40] <Hendikins> Gecko: That's like me, except "now, back when I started using mozilla..."
[05:40] <__Dwayne> Gecko that's funny
[05:40] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, it is suppused to have been installed in the /usr/bin folder
[05:40] <phreak97> Toma-,  how do i reinstall?
[05:41] <KarlosII> there was a how to for nx and ubuntu anyone know where to find th link?
[05:41] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: ok. consider this, with that 200mb of cache/buffer, itll be reading that file, decoding the audio and video into a raw stream, then throwing it at you. it'll need a bit of space
[05:41] <Gecko> __Dwayne, actually, I found out I could write a whole book just with anecdotes...
[05:41] <Kyral> KarlosII: wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[05:41] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, go to the folder you unpacked. there is a vmware-install.pl scritp. run it
[05:41] <Toma-> phreak97: did u install via .deb?
[05:42] <roth> Inf3ctedFx,  ask me if you dont understand any of the questions. let it fork the vmware-config.pl command WHEN it is done (it will ask)
[05:42] <Inf3ctedFx> thats the one i'm runing right now roth
[05:42] <roth> sweet
[05:42] <__Dwayne> gecko: and did you? are you? will you? LOL
[05:42] <Gecko> Hendikins, Is that like "When I started using linux, we only had netscape 3"?
[05:42] <Gecko> __Dwayne, perhaps on a blog some time :)
[05:42] <phreak97> Toma-,  i did
[05:42] <Hendikins> Gecko: Almost. I started using Mozilla in 1999. 'nuff said.
[05:43] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: linux basically takes all youre ram and make good use of it, making buffers and caches. ive got nothing up atm except xchat and gnome, and its using 495mb of ram for instance
[05:43] <__Dwayne> gecko might be interesting
[05:43] <Gecko> Hendikins, really? Either I didn't know it existed at that time, or I have miscalculated the time I started using linux
[05:43] <gnomefreak> toma how do you check that?
[05:43] <Toma-> phreak97: well use synaptic to purge it/completely remove it and then reinstall it. also make sure it gets rid of the ~/.azureus folder too
[05:43] <Toma-> gnomefreak: run "free"
[05:43] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[05:44] <xester> good day
[05:44] <Hendikins> Gecko: Well, Netscape was open sourced in 1998, and Mozilla was at Milestone 8.5 when I started using it. So I predate just about every major bit of code in that project :P
[05:44] <gnomefreak> :)) 495780
[05:44] <fizzle> does ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd
[05:44] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> look this roth  is done:   The configuration of VMware Workstation 5.5.1 build-19175 for Linux for this
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> running kernel completed successfully.
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> You can now run VMware Workstation by invoking the following command:
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> "/usr/bin/vmware".
[05:45] <Gecko> Hendikins, ah, milestone, I almost forgot that word. But yes, I was on that ride aswell
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> Sorry guys for the flood
[05:45] <Hendikins> Gecko: I suppose it would be equivalent to starting using Linux in '94 or '95
[05:45] <claudiu> Inf3ctedFx: maybe you could use qemu instead of vmware ?
[05:45] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, ok, then youre done...
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> I was trying claudiu  but I cant find one for windows
[05:45] <Toma-> or vmware player
[05:45] <Gecko> Hendikins, well, I didn't exactly start that early...
[05:45] <fizzle> does ubuntu include memtest86 on the livecd
[05:45] <Inf3ctedFx> lets see roth , lets see
[05:46] <Hendikins> Gecko: heh
[05:46] <Toma-> nehoo, bedtime. cyas
[05:46] <Hendikins> Toodles
[05:46] <claudiu> Inf3ctedFx: you mean you want to use same virtual machine on windwos and linux as well ?
[05:46] <Inf3ctedFx> well it looks to me is working xDD
[05:46] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, good :-)
[05:46] <Inf3ctedFx> yes claudiu  I want to run Windows XP under linux
[05:46] <gnomefreak> fizzle, it might but im thinking no when you boot up to it you should have a help part it should tell you there
[05:46] <Inf3ctedFx> roth:  man thx a lot
[05:46] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, then I wont file a bug :-)
[05:46] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, no problme
[05:47] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh is asking me to add the boot disk lol I forgot it
[05:47] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, can you update that minihowto ?
[05:47] <kino-tak> just  a quick question: how to I make a user sudoer?
[05:47] <Inf3ctedFx> do I have to install the windows CD?
[05:47] <Hendikins> Gecko: I've managed one thing that few others have though. Open about:plugins in Mozilla [Firefox] . I've got a link to my site hard-coded in to it (-:
[05:47] <rohan> kino-tak: add your user to the admin group using the user manager.
[05:47] <Gecko> Hendikins, does that make you proud? ;)
[05:48] <mwe> I found running windows 2000 as guest OS in vmware was much faster than running windows xp as guest.
[05:48] <Inf3ctedFx> not really roth  I dont know how
[05:48] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, just put in "if installing vmware 5.5 or later, just run the vmware-install.pl script. Ubuntu, both 32 and 64bit, is nowdays supported by VMware Inc."
[05:48] <fizzle> !cedega
[05:48] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[05:48] <Hendikins> Gecko: A little. I had to work my arse off to get that.
[05:48] <roth> Anyone else know how to make people change/update their howtos?
[05:48] <Gecko> Hendikins, unless your site is mozilla.org I fail to see where it is
[05:49] <Inf3ctedFx> but anyway roth  I'm going to make a small howto xD
[05:49] <roth> mwe, in with host OS ?
[05:49] <roth> mwe, on linux ?
[05:49] <Hendikins> Gecko: Unless your build has a modified about:plugins, you should see "Help for installing plug-ins is available from plugindoc.mozdev.org."
[05:49] <Atreliz> hi this is the firts time y use xchat,anyone can say me how to connect to mandriva chanel?
[05:49] <laIaidoka> roth: write the update yourself, submit as patch, and if on accepted ask if you can be the maintainer instead?
[05:49] <Gecko> yes
[05:49] <Gecko> Hendikins, is that your site?
[05:49] <Hendikins> Yes.
[05:49] <laIaidoka> s/on/not
[05:49] <Gecko> nice :)
[05:49] <roth> laIaidoka, hehe, no thanks :-) (maitainer part)
[05:50] <roth> I can set one at work as maintainer instead :-) (the support department hehe)
[05:50] <mwe> roth: yeah linux host
[05:51] <roth> mwe, mm, that can be true for 2000, since vmware does its own memory management with help of linux in the background. Ms memory mgmt wasnt very good before.
[05:51] <Gecko> Hendikins, what the heck is The Lurking Wolfox?
[05:51] <Hendikins> Gecko: Unrelated, but I use that as a universal contact details page.
[05:51] <phreak97> anyone know an alternative to azureas?
[05:52] <deltron> the bittorrent CLI lol
[05:52] <phreak97> i want something that displays stuff like azureas does
[05:52] <phreak97> i used bitcomet in windows
[05:52] <Gecko> Hendikins, I see
[05:52] <mwe> roth: I don't know exactly why. xp demands more memory and I read somewhere that xp in general doesn't run optimal on virtual michines
[05:52] <phreak97> wish there was a linux version of that
[05:52] <roth> Inf3ctedFx, Im out of here now, mail me at d00roth(the damn sign)dtek.chalmers.se if you have problems
[05:52] <milagro> hi can anyone help me setup a serial mouse in ubuntu? (please,. its a nightmare to use it as keyb only :D  )
[05:53] <Gecko> mwe, have you ever seen anything running optimal on a virtual machine? ;)
[05:53] <eXhumed> hi. I'm using a Ubuntu install for a long time now, but i needed to install Windows on another partition. my problem is, after installing Windows, it messed up the partition table, and I don't see grub anymore. i'm already running a live cd, but how can i fix grub now ? thanks in advance
[05:53] <roth> mwe, might be so. I know a few vmware/XP bugs :-)
[05:53] <Inf3ctedFx> ok roth  once again thx a lot
[05:53] <deltron> lol, I can run my VM decently
[05:53] <mwe> Gecko: I meant compared to other guests
[05:53] <Gecko> mwe, I know :)
[05:53] <gpled> how can i tell what version of ubuntu i am running?
[05:53] <milagro> eXhumed, use your installation cd and reinstall grub
[05:53] <Nooobie> hi, how do i allow root login in ubuntu?
[05:54] <mwe> gpled: cat /etc/issue
[05:54] <deltron> gpled: uname -a ?
[05:54] <eXhumed> milagro, actually i don't have a Ubuntu Live CD, i'm running Whax. so I guess i have to do it manually
[05:54] <Stew_Lappy> Nooobie can't you just use sudo?
[05:54] <Gecko> deltron, that's kernel version...
[05:54] <Hendikins> I remember NT4 claiming some really weird CPU speeds under older versions of workstation on an SMP box
[05:54] <Hendikins> Things like 4GHz on a dual PIII 650 host
[05:55] <Nooobie> Stew_Lappy: no... i'm using it as a server and i need to copy files etc... and i don't wanna work in a shell...
[05:55] <phreak97> i havea python source, how do i compile it?
[05:55] <deltron> oh
[05:55] <pashaw> !tell Nooobie about root
[05:55] <mwe> Hendikins: rofl. yeah that sounds odd
[05:55] <deltron> lol
[05:55] <Hendikins> Only ever had that problem with SMP hosts though.
[05:55] <deltron> on my old dual celeron, NT4 reported them as xeon's :D
[05:55] <Nooobie> pashaw: i already set a root passwd i just can't login with it.
[05:55] <deltron> !cedega
[05:55] <ubotu> somebody said cedega was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[05:56] <Hendikins> Don't worry, these days I'm apparently running Athlon MP CPUs on a 440BX chipset
[05:56] <gpled> mwe: wins :)
[05:56] <pashaw> Nooobie,   your not trying to use X with root are you?
[05:56] <Hendikins> Now that's just plain wrong ;-)
[05:56] <Nooobie> pashaw: that's exactly what i wanna do.
[05:56] <mwe> I can't get the vmware tools time sync to host to work no matter what I do though
[05:56] <Gecko> deltron, wow, that's like writing mercedes on an old skoda
[05:56] <deltron> lol, I loved that system though
[05:56] <pashaw> Nooobie,  it causes too many problems
[05:57] <deltron> mmm
[05:57] <Nooobie> pashaw: meaning?.. i should be careful / it's impossiable?
[05:57] <gpled> seems like all the distros have their own way of showing /etc/issue.  to bad their is not a standard name for that file.
[05:57] <Hendikins> These dualcore chips are going to take all the bragging rights out of SMP :(
[05:57] <deltron> hehe, my laptop is an amd64 :)
[05:57] <Gecko> both are laptops actually
[05:58] <pashaw> Nooobie,   its not recommended    use google if your set on doijng it
[05:58] <deltron> Hendikins: dual dualcore's then :)
[05:58] <Hendikins> I just can't stand trying to do Real Work [TM]  on a uniproc machine
[05:58] <Gecko> well, i had nothing but trouble getting linux on it, so I let windows on it, and use it for gaming and watching dvd's
[05:58] <deltron> most of what I do doesn't require much horsepower
[05:58] <ubuntu_> where is the dir xchat use to save downloads on udentu :
[05:59] <ubuntu_> what is
[05:59] <deltron> I wish games were written for SMP and 64 bit lol
[05:59] <KarlosII> dumb question but my mind is mush atm what is the ip for localhost?
[05:59] <deltron> KarlosII: 127.0.0.1
[05:59] <Hendikins> None of what I do (aside from the bazillion Mozilla builds and the odd KDE) requires 2x2GHz
[05:59] <deltron> SMP does make your system a whole lot more responsive though, I definitely agree with that
[05:59] <gpled> is their a repository that will let me upgrade firefox?
[06:00] <Hendikins> Although being able to run vmware and pearpc at the same time is cute.
[06:00] <Gecko> yeah, well, I wouldn't dare doing any developing that needs to be compilet on this little guy here...
[06:00] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   ~/.xchats/downloads/
[06:00] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   oops typo  its xchat2
[06:00] <Gecko> s/compilet/compiled
[06:01] <Hendikins> deltron: There's just no comparison. That, and at the time I got this kit, I paid less for my motherboard, 2 CPUs and 1GB Registered RAM than the top bare Intel CPU would have cost at the time.
[06:01] <ubuntu_> pashaw, :( have no downloads dir dir
[06:01] <ubuntu_> ignore.conf       notify.conf     sound.conf
[06:01] <ubuntu_> keybindings.conf  servlist_.conf  xchat.conf
[06:01] <deltron> amd for the win
[06:02] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   type  cd ~/.xchat2    then type  ls
[06:02] <Gecko> I bought this little laptop because I was sure it could run linux and because it is really slick. I'll just have to wait till the day my other laptop gets so outdated that linux will run on it :)
[06:02] <Hendikins> and as for AMD CPUs being hot? These run just fine in an essentially unventilated garage with an outside air temp of 45C. 'nuff said.
[06:02] <deltron> what laptop?
[06:02] <Gecko> deltron, asus a4k
[06:02] <Inf3ctedFx> danm roth left right??
[06:02] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   have to downloaded anything with xchat yet?
[06:02] <deltron> I have ubuntu64 on my gateway mx7515
[06:02] <KarlosII> thnx deltron btw
[06:02] <deltron> KarlosII: np
[06:02] <Gecko> deltron, or which of them were you refering to? The working or the not working?
[06:03] <ubuntu_> pashaw, iam in .xchat dir, those file is from .xchat dir . yes i do a dowload
[06:03] <Hendikins> I'm still sitting on SuSE, although if I can ever get a non-dialup connection I'll certainly put Ubuntu (amongst other things) through its paces.
[06:03] <Nooobie> can someone help me configure an isa soundcard (vibra) ?
[06:03] <Inf3ctedFx> Hendikins:  look I run vmware pretty good but now I'm trying to install windows and I have a message said: you do not have VMware Tools installed"   do u know anything about it?
[06:03] <Gecko> deltron, the errors I got was on the lines of really decreased performance, and artifacts whenever something was moving fast enough on the screen :)
[06:04] <Gecko> Hendikins, ever considered "Ship-it"?
[06:04] <Hendikins> Inf3ctedFx: Yeah, that's normal. Just finish installing Windows, then install VMware tools.
[06:04] <Hendikins> Gecko: I'm in Australia, and that doesn't help with getting packages off the net.
[06:04] <deltron> sounds like no fun.  I never really tried 3d on my laptop though
[06:04] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   thats where it should be
[06:04] <Inf3ctedFx> mm oks
[06:04] <Gecko> Hendikins, well, I'm in China, at least for another week
[06:04] <__Dwayne> Gecko: china, ouch..
[06:04] <Gecko> Hendikins, and they gladly sent it to me
[06:04] <Hendikins> and being a KDE user, I'd probably lean towards kubuntu
[06:05] <dueyfinster> Hey I have windows on WmWare trial, but I cannot get the network to work, how could I map it to ra0 (wireless)
[06:05] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   unless you changed it in xchat prefs
[06:05] <ubuntu_> pashaw, is on my desktop, ubuntu by default save on desktop $
[06:05] <Kindred> Hendikins: i'm in australia on 56k and I downloaded ubuntu :|
[06:05] <deltron> Hendikins: shipit dude!  it's 100% free and will get it
[06:05] <ubuntu_> :$
[06:05] <Hendikins> Kindred: You poor thing.
[06:05] <__Dwayne> kindrid: ouch..
[06:05] <Hendikins> deltron: That doesn't help if/when I want to get packages off the web.
[06:05] <__Dwayne> shipit doesn't charge? wow..that's way cool.
[06:05] <Kindred> it's only 3 days or so :P
[06:05] <pashaw> ubuntu_,   web downloads go there by default not xchat
[06:05] <Gecko> __Dwayne, it's nice here, if you don't consider the utter lack of bandwidth to the rest of the world
[06:05] <RedRose> how do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?
[06:05] <__Dwayne> Gecko what part of China?
[06:05] <deltron> Hendikins: well, what are you doing now to keep your suse updated? :P
[06:06] <RedRose> how do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?
[06:06] <Gecko> __Dwayne, beijing
[06:06] <albinoloverats> anyone know how to solve problems with a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2nx?
[06:06] <Hendikins> deltron: Getting the occasional small patch. I'm not downloading, say, 50 meg in a hit.
[06:06] <dueyfinster>  Hey I have windows on WmWare trial, but I cannot get the network to work, how could I map it to ra0 (wireless). I need the path to ra0, but I have no clue what it is!
[06:06] <Hendikins> Kindred: so, why are you stuck on dial-up?
[06:07] <Hendikins> or were.
[06:07] <RedRose> ???
[06:07] <deltron> Hendikins: you can use apt to install from the source files if you want
[06:07] <deltron> Hendikins: a lot smaller downloads
[06:07] <Hendikins> deltron: I would still have to acquire the files though.
[06:07] <RedRose> is there anyway?
[06:07] <deltron> apt-get works nice, and resumes :P
[06:07] <dueyfinster> Anyone know the path to ra0 (wireless)?
[06:07] <ubuntu_> pashaw,  well my ubentu save it on Desktop :) Tks :)
[06:08] <Hendikins> Basically, it stays on the todo list until I get some bandwidth
[06:08] <ubuntu_> ubunt
[06:08] <deltron> RedRose: none really
[06:08] <RedRose> how do i view a directory via http? like i know it has read permissions, but there's a index.html file there, is there anyway i can still view it as a directory?
[06:08] <deltron> lol
[06:08] <flogiston> Does anyone got problems with Firefox?
[06:08] <deltron> RedRose: there could be directory permissions that don't allow you to read it in addition to the index.html file
[06:08] <ubuntu_> flogiston, what kind of problem ?
[06:08] <Hendikins> flogiston: I don't have problems with Firefox, but I run #firefox. Best thing to do is ask your question.
[06:09] <dueyfinster> flogiston: I get some after installing extensions, chrome registration failure
[06:09] <flogiston> It doesn't open de sites i write in the adressfield.
[06:09] <RedRose> deltron:no, i can see the index.html, and i know the fir is readable and executable by everyone...
[06:09] <RedRose> but i don't want to automattically see the index.html page, but a directory list
[06:09] <Hendikins> flogiston: What does it do? Also, are you using an official or Ubuntu-supplied version of Mozilla Firefox?
[06:09] <deltron> what browser?
[06:09] <RedRose> deltron:any?
[06:09] <dueyfinster> flogiston: try Opera or konqueror
[06:09] <flogiston> If i try to open www.google.com it opens altavista or somthing else.
[06:10] <Hendikins> RedRose: set a default document of something that doesn't exist?
[06:10] <ubuntu_> flogiston, do you configure network :
[06:10] <flogiston> Im using the ubuntu supplied.
[06:10] <ubuntu_> flogiston, do you configure network ?
[06:10] <Hendikins> RedRose: Then it should find no default document, and give you a directory listing.
[06:10] <dueyfinster> Anyone know the path to ra0 (wireless)?
[06:10] <flogiston> ubuntu_:how them?
[06:10] <flogiston> *then
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> RedRose : add something like "foo.html"
[06:11] <Hendikins> flogiston: so what does it do when you try going to sites?
[06:11] <ubuntu_> flogiston,  my english is poor .. do wanna know how configure networks :
[06:11] <ubuntu_> ?
[06:11] <flogiston> I have myu network configured .
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> RedRose : to the DirectoryIndex directive in your apache configuration...sorry about enter punctuation. ;-)
[06:11] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: Are you trying to set that up using vmware-config.pl?
[06:12] <dueyfinster> Hendikins, No should I? I am using the gui to map an ethernet connect through.
[06:12] <albinoloverats> anybody know how to configure a usb soundblaster?
[06:12] <flogiston> Sometimes no site even gets displayed.
[06:13] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: IIRC you have to configure what interfaces get bridged and whatnot using vmware-config.pl
[06:13] <Hendikins> Then you just pick the appropriate virtual ethernet device in VM options
[06:13] <dueyfinster> Hendikins; Is that difficult?
[06:13] <Stormx2> Woh the GNU people feel really left out.
[06:13] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: I haven't had to do it in a while, but I don't remember it being hard.
[06:14] <flogiston> when i type: about:config ff displays w.w norton and company.
[06:14] <kids> hi
[06:14] <kids> hola
[06:14] <Hendikins> flogiston: Does the browser display any error messages when you try to load pages?
[06:14] <Hendikins> kids: Good morning.
[06:14] <kids> no abla espanol
[06:14] <flogiston> I'm not running it from terminal but i'll do that now.
[06:15] <Hendikins> flogiston: I wasn't actually thinking about it dumping anything to stderr/stdout in this case.
[06:15] <Hendikins> (but that's always worth a look)
[06:15] <flogiston> Where to look?
[06:16] <Hendikins> Does Firefox just sit there, or does it [eventually]  give an error page?
[06:16] <flogiston> No error page.
[06:17] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: I do not respond to private messages. Please ask your questions in the channel.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ill bb im gonna boot into breezy
[06:17] <Hendikins> flogiston: Other browsers work?
[06:17] <flogiston> Tried links and lynx and they work.
[06:17] <deltron> elinks ftw
[06:17] <Hendikins> No proxy settings or such like configured? No extensions?
[06:18] <dotrig> Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)    Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll,/usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[06:18] <dueyfinster> Hendikins:    Virtual ethernet:     failed (Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation) Execution of vmware-config.pl aborted.
[06:18] <dotrig> Grrr mplayer
[06:18] <flogiston> No extensions.
[06:18] <flogiston> I haven't tuoched proxysetting.
[06:18] <Hendikins> So I take it removing ~/.mozilla/firefox doesn't help.
[06:18] <Hendikins> (or moving it out of the way, as the case may be)
[06:18] <flogiston> Haven't tried.
[06:19] <flogiston> I speed tweaked ff earlier today.
[06:19] <Hendikins> Bingo!
[06:19] <flogiston> Where can i find about:config?
[06:19] <Hendikins> Be very very wary of these so-called speed tweaks. Enabling experimental stuff can be problematic
[06:19] <dueyfinster> type into address bar
[06:19] <Hendikins> You can load about:config in the same you would a webpage.
[06:20] <theconartist> dueyfinster, he means the filename
[06:20] <theconartist> dueyfinster, he cant open ff
[06:20] <dueyfinster> ah, sorry
[06:20] <Hendikins> If you can't run Firefox, get ~/.mozilla/firefox out of the way.
[06:20] <Hendikins> and/or edit prefs.js/user.js in the profile directly.
[06:20] <flogiston> But i can't open about:config in ff.
[06:20] <theconartist> somebody is slow
[06:21] <flogiston> rm -rf  ~/.mozilla/firefox ?
[06:21] <Hendikins> I wouldn't rm -rf
[06:21] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: ping
[06:21] <dueyfinster> Hendikins:    Virtual ethernet:     failed (Unable to stop services for VMware Workstation) Execution of vmware-config.pl aborted. Any ideas how to kill process? I looked in Gnome System Monitor, I cannot see the process
[06:21] <Hendikins> I'd move it out of the way. You might want to keep your bookmarks and stuff.
[06:21] <Hendikins> dueyfinster: I'm not /that/ familiar with vmware troubleshooting. We had a vmware employee floating around here earlier, wonder where they got off to...
[06:22] <flogiston> oops already did.
[06:22] <flogiston> Restarded FF and now it works.
[06:22] <Hendikins> Of course it works. You hosed your settings.
[06:22] <Hendikins> Then you nuked them, so you got default settings.
[06:22] <stanley> hi, guys
[06:22] <flogiston> Why shouldn't i use rm -rf?
[06:22] <pundai> hey, i can't get my built-in sd card reader to work, is there a mod i have to probe :)
[06:23] <Hendikins> Because it deletes? And you may have wanted to keep your bookmarks, cookies, saved passwords, etc.
[06:23] <theconartist> flogiston, incase you wanted to keep some settings
[06:23] <MacXimain> anyone here able to help me with installing a .DEB file
[06:23] <Gecko> pundai, ricoh based, laptop cardreader?
[06:23] <MacXimain> i tried clicking on it and it tells me that ar is not in my PATH
[06:23] <flogiston> Don't use bookmarkes and the passwords are no problem.
[06:23] <flogiston> Thanks anyway!
[06:24] <pundai> Gecko, its a laptop
[06:24] <pundai> i dont know what ricoh means
[06:24] <MacXimain> anyone tried Dapper yet
[06:24] <Gecko> pundai, ricoh is the producer
[06:24] <Hendikins> flogiston: Next time, ask us before doing any speed tweaking, and don't play with anything if you're not 100% sure what it does.
[06:24] <Gecko> pundai, and if it's the one I think it is, you won't get it working
[06:25] <pundai> Gecko, how can i tell
[06:25] <flogiston> I'll do so.
[06:25] <Gecko> pundai, try with lspci
[06:25] <topyli> MacXimain: i sure hope so, since somebody is supposed to be working on it ;-)
[06:25] <dabaR__> MacXimain: no, noone.
[06:25] <MacXimain> how about someone giving me a hand :)
[06:25] <Hendikins> MacXimain: I'm a Firefox expert, ntoa dapper expert :)
[06:25] <ZiX> hi, what do you people find the best WM? i do not wish to start a holy war so don't say "KDE IS BEST!" "no gnome is best!" "NO KDE!" :p
[06:25] <Gecko> Hendikins, that kde 3.5 mirror is giving me some trouble :(
[06:25] <MacXimain> well im downloading right now..... i guess i'll just have to see
[06:26] <Hendikins> Gecko: I compiled my own KDE 3.5 on my 32bit SuSE 9.3 box.
[06:26] <pundai> Gecko, 0000:03:01.2 0805: Ricoh Co Ltd: Unknown device 0822 (rev 17)
[06:26] <pashaw> ZiX,    there is no best  only your favorite
[06:26] <Gecko> pundai, well, there you go. There are no drivers for that one
[06:26] <butcherbird> ZiX: been enjoying xfce
[06:26] <ScatterBrain> If I create a custom package, using the source and dpkg-buildpackage, how can I prevent an "apt-get [dist-] upgrade" from trashing my version in favor of the respositories version?
[06:26] <pundai> Gecko, \o/
[06:26] <flogiston> An other thing. The key with "pipe" stoped work. Tried my keyboard on an other computer so the button isn't broken.
[06:26] <ZiX> pashaw, true.. but i want some desktop setups to see which is best for me
[06:26] <topyli> MacXimain: this is a bad channel for dapper support. so is every other channell. if you know how to fix broken systems, please do install, debug, and fix
[06:26] <dabaR__> ZiX: one that works for you.
[06:26] <ColonelPanique> ZiX : neither Gnome, nor KDE are Window Managers.  They are Desktop Environments.  fvwm, Fluxbox, and Windowmaker are Window Managers.
[06:27] <ZiX> ColonelPanique, i know.
[06:27] <MacXimain> so anyone know why i can't install a DEB file on Breezy by clicking on it
[06:27] <Gecko> pundai, something about the patent for the sd card type being so closed and everything
[06:27] <pashaw> ZiX,   then try all 3 main ones   kubuntu-desktop   ubuntu-desktop  xubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <ZiX> xubuntu? oO
[06:27] <deltron> xfce4 > * :D
[06:27] <Kyral> MacXimain: because that isn't there yet?
[06:27] <Gecko> pundai, however I have managed to find some card readers that specificly tell you that they are linux based, so that's what I did
[06:27] <MacXimain> this is in Breezy Im talking about. It's worked in the past.
[06:27] <pashaw> ZiX,   thats what butcherbird and myself are using right now
[06:27] <Kyral> MacXimain: That functionaility is being addressed in Dapper with gdebi
[06:28] <topyli> MacXimain: you're not supposed to be able to do that. it's an upcoming feature for dapper. try wajig
[06:28] <MacXimain> hmmm pehaps i had a plugin... don't remember
[06:28] <Kyral> MacXimain: did you have a script for it? Its never been that way for me (then again I've never liked doing it that way)
[06:28] <ZiX> whats xubuntu-desktop?
[06:28] <ZiX> oO
[06:28] <Pygi> !xubuntu
[06:28] <ubotu> I heard xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[06:28] <Kyral> !info gdebi
[06:28] <pundai> Gecko, that is so ass
[06:28] <Pygi> !PATIENCE
[06:28] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[06:28] <Kyral> Gah Ubotu
[06:28] <deltron> ooh
[06:28] <deltron> i gotta grab xubuntu :D
[06:28] <Kyral> I saw the package accepted on the ML
[06:28] <MacXimain> come to think of it I think i DID have a pluing or something installed i found on KDELook
[06:28] <Pygi> deltron: hehe :)
[06:28] <Kyral> !info gdebi dappe
[06:28] <Kyral> !info gdebi dapper
[06:28] <Gecko> pundai, I know
[06:29] <ubotu> gdebi: (Simple tool to install deb files), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.1 (dapper), Packaged size: 24 kB, Installed size: 228 kB
[06:29] <ZiX> and err.. in XFCE i miss the function to add as many panels as you want.. how to do that?
[06:29] <Kyral> there you go
[06:29] <deltron> ZiX: you mean like in gnome?
[06:29] <Kyral> Actually....
[06:29] <Kyral> I should try it
[06:29] <ZiX> Deltron: yup
[06:29] <deltron> it's in one of the xfce plugins I believe
[06:29] <cvt|gnuyear> barrage was fun
[06:29] <JayLv99> I'm looking to get some more RAM for my Laptop (Inspiron 1000, currently has the standard 256 mb RAM), but on the Dell website it said "Get the official Dell 256 meg RAM stick to MAX OUT your Inspiron 1000!"
[06:29] <ZiX> deltron, which one?
[06:29] <Pygi> Bye bye :P
[06:29] <deltron> fire up synaptic and add in the xfce plugins
[06:29] <deltron> not sure
[06:29] <JayLv99> does that mean my Laptop can only go up to 512 RAM total?
[06:30] <JayLv99> or is that just Dell being weird
[06:30] <JayLv99> does anybody know how many RAM slots an Inspiron 1000 has?
[06:30] <JayLv99> and how much it can handle?
[06:30] <pashaw> JayLv99,    goto crucial.com   and search for your lappy make/model
[06:30] <Kyral> Laptops have RAM Slots?
[06:30] <vbhanu> HI, I was trying to install ubuntu it failed to detect my sata hard disk
[06:30] <vbhanu> what could be the solution to this problem
[06:30] <rraphink> Kyral: they better, yes
[06:30] <JayLv99> ;x
[06:30] <Morrowyn> does anyone in here have a problem with the nvidia driver hanging on bootup of gdm on the framebuffer ? somehow when i boot windows first and then ubuntu everything is fine , any ideas?
[06:30] <JayLv99> I would hope my laptop has a RAM slot
[06:31] <Hendikins> Kyral: You've got to put the SODIMMs somewhere.
[06:31] <Kyral> Morrowyn: the Framebuffer "locks" the Nvidia Driver
[06:31] <Kyral> Morrowyn: boot with the nofb option
[06:31] <ZiX> deltron: which plugin?
[06:31] <ColonelPanique> Kyral : sure they do.  SODIMM slots. ;-)
[06:31] <MacXimain> I have Breezy 5.10 Installed right now but need to upgrade the Samba. the Version in the Repositories isn't the latest. How can I install the lates version of Samba
[06:31] <JayLv99> so... does anyone know what the Inspiron 1000's specs are RAM-wise?
[06:31] <Kyral> MacXimain: Wait?
[06:32] <dabaR__> JayLv99: did you try searching their web site for specs?
[06:32] <Kyral> MacXimain: If its in Dapper make a request for it to be backported
[06:32] <deltron> ZiX: not sure, I'm not running a gui to check :P
[06:32] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : coompile it from source?
[06:32] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : compile it even
[06:32] <Morrowyn> Kyral, how do i boot with nofb option ?
[06:32] <MacXimain> i have the Dapper Live CD and seem to be a newer version there
[06:32] <topyli> MacXimain: tha'ts a bad reason to upgrade your whole system to something unstable
[06:32] <JayLv99> dabaR__ - yes, I did, and it mentioned "maxing out your Inspiron 1000 with a 256 stick"
[06:32] <JayLv99> and I'm wondering if that means that all my laptop can handle is 512
[06:32] <cello_rasp> i need a phone number/address book for gnome/ubuntu
[06:32] <pashaw> JayLv99,   most new laptops have 2 slots
[06:32] <JayLv99> 'cause another website I read said it has 2 slots
[06:32] <Kyral> MacXimain: Latest And Greatest isn't the best. Then again I shouldn't be talking I'm on Dapper lol
[06:33] <MacXimain> compiling from source is not my friend.... I never have any luck :(
[06:33] <topyli> MacXimain: if there's no backport, build it yourself from dappersources but on breezy
[06:33] <dabaR__> JayLv99: can you open it?
[06:33] <JayLv99> is it possible for a laptop not to be able to go above a certain amount of RAM?
[06:33] <pashaw> JayLv99,    cruicial.com would have told you that also
[06:33] <MacXimain> if i can just upgrade my Samba i won't bother with Dapper
[06:33] <pashaw> JayLv99,   yes
[06:33] <JayLv99> dabaR__ - I don't have the tools handy
[06:33] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : is there a specific feature or fix found in the latest version of Samba that you must have?  if not then you really don't have to get the latest version of Samba, or anything else for that matter... ;-P
[06:33] <theconartist> JayLv99, 32bit systems are capped at 4gigs
[06:33] <Hendikins> MacXimain: ^^^^what ColonelPanique said.
[06:33] <topyli> MacXimain: what's so special that has happened to samba now?
[06:33] <markus-_-> when a file's owner is root..... how do i change permission on the file to be able to write to it?
[06:33] <Hendikins> theconartist: PAE anyone?
[06:34] <SEJeff> topyli, nothing, samba 4 isn't released yet
[06:34] <SEJeff> markus-_-, What group is the file in?
[06:34] <MacXimain> The newer version is Suppose to fix a problem with My Mac OS Hanging when it gets to the linux box... Seems to be a known issue according to the kubuntu forums
[06:34] <theconartist> Hendikins, i dont know what PAE is but i already dont like it
[06:34] <markus-_-> file group is root as well
[06:34] <Kyral> Morrowyn: when Grub loads (this is just to see if it works) hit ESC to enter the Menu (if you aren't there already). Hilight the Ubuntu entry and hit e to edit it, then move the selector to the kernel line and hit e again. Move to the end of the line and add "nofb" to it. Then hit esc and then b
[06:34] <JayLv99> pashaw - ty for the link
[06:35] <topyli> MacXimain: well, test it by building the new samba on breezy
[06:35] <JayLv99> :) that is a good site
[06:35] <topyli> MacXimain: you're going to be worse off with dapper
[06:35] <MacXimain> ...and why is that topyli
[06:35] <Hendikins> theconartist: Physical Address Extension
[06:36] <JayLv99> wait... this is kinda confusing
[06:36] <markus-_-> can you offer any ideas SEJeff ?
[06:36] <theconartist> oh
[06:36] <JayLv99> it says that I should get an upgrade of 256 more
[06:36] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : the kubuntu forums are not authoritative for Samba fixes.  if such an issue exists, and has been fixed, it will be listed in the Samba changelog / release notes, which are authoritative sources of information on Samba...
[06:36] <JayLv99> to bring it up to 512
[06:36] <topyli> MacXimain: because they may break your whole operating system tomorrow. tha't why it's not released. it's in development
[06:36] <JayLv99> but it says I only have one module
[06:36] <JayLv99> memory slot*
[06:36] <Morrowyn> thanks, Kyral gonna try that after dinner :D
[06:36] <SEJeff> markus-_-, you didn't answer my question
[06:36] <SEJeff> markus-_-, what group is the file in
[06:36] <JayLv99> it says "The number of total memory slots in your Dell Inspiron 1000 Series is 1 (1 bank of 1)"
[06:36] <markus-_-> sure i did
[06:37] <JayLv99> but it claims that I could get a 256 stick upgrade to make it 512
[06:37] <markus-_->  file group is root as well
[06:37] <SEJeff> markus-_-, Sorry, I didn't see that
[06:37] <MacXimain> the latest version of Samba is 3.0.21 ... the latest in the Repositories is 3.0.14
[06:37] <SEJeff> markus-_-, Well you can create a new group... put yourself in that group and the file. Or you can add yourself to the root group
[06:37] <Hendikins> theconartist: basically they extend the address space to 36 bits, which bumps the maximum up to 64GB on 32bit systems that support PAE.
[06:37] <markus-_-> how do i add myself to the root group?
[06:37] <topyli> MacXimain: what about dapper repositories?
[06:38] <JayLv99> ohhh
[06:38] <JayLv99> it says that it has 256 MB of RAM non-removable already
[06:38] <MacXimain> i ran the live CD and the version there is 3.0.20
[06:38] <JayLv99> and it says it has 1 bank of 1 memory
[06:38] <JayLv99> is that not including the 256 nonremovable?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> is there an app that i can get osx themes?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> or mac themes
[06:38] <topyli> MacXimain: if that's enough, build from that
[06:38] <SEJeff> MacXimain, dapper version is  3.0.20b-2ubuntu1
[06:39] <MacXimain> it suppose to be enough
[06:39] <pashaw> JayLv99,   youll need to check if 256mb is integrated into the mainboard  so the 1slot is empty now
[06:39] <markus-_-> SEJeff,  how do i add myself to the root group?
[06:39] <MacXimain> so how do i build from that then??
[06:39] <butcherbird> JayLv99: companies like dell are always soldering stuff to MB on more inexpensive laptops
[06:39] <topyli> MacXimain: so, enable the dapper deb-src repositories. apt-get update; apt-get build-dep samba; apt-get -b source samba
[06:40] <Surak> Hello
[06:40] <gnomefreak> hi
[06:40] <Gecko> Seems that kubuntu-users have developed their own sense of humor:
[06:40] <Gecko> Gecko: im trying to install kubuntu-desktop from an ubuntu-desktop || _matt: I see - cant say that I have upgraded from ubuntu
[06:40] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : have a look at Samba changes: http://us2.samba.org/samba/history/samba-3.0.21a.html  NO mention of any Mac OS X related issues going back to version 3.0.4 ;-)
[06:40] <MacXimain> i need to add the dapper repositories right?
[06:41] <topyli> MacXimain: the source repos. don't fool with the binaries
[06:41] <Surak> Is someone aware of issues with some via unichrome adapters? I tested five different machines containing this video 1106:7205 rev. 1 (the one on chipset via 8378)  and breezy cannot get a decent video mode on it.
[06:42] <SEJeff> markus-_-, Well you have to add yourself to root as a secondary group
[06:42] <MacXimain> I was reading this forum and it talks about it here
[06:42] <Surak> it keeps monitors shaking. This happens in ubuntu only.
[06:42] <MacXimain> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=108691&highlight=samba
[06:42] <chillywilly> !win32codecs
[06:42] <ubotu> it has been said that win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[06:42] <SEJeff> markus-_-, sudo gedit /etc/group
[06:42] <mwe> SEJeff: no!
[06:42] <mwe> vigr !!!
[06:42] <mwe> sudo vigr even
[06:42] <topyli> heh
[06:42] <SEJeff> markus-_-, you can also do: sudo usermod -G adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin root jeff jeff
[06:43] <SEJeff> markus-_-, root being the group. and jeff being my username
[06:43] <mwe> don't edit /etc/group or /etc/passwd directly. always use vigr and vipw instead
[06:43] <MacXimain> topyli,  so what exactly do i need to add to have the repos
[06:44] <SEJeff> mwe, I realize that, but usermod is stupid and removes all groups you are currently a member of instead of adding a group
[06:44] <SEJeff> mwe, And vi, while second nature to me, is not to a normal user
[06:44] <topyli> MacXimain: just copy your breezy deb-src lines (not the deb lines) and edit them to say dapper where they now say breezy
[06:44] <Some_Body> hm, is there a hot-key to launch terminal in breezy?
[06:45] <MacXimain> ok kinda thought so but good to make sure
[06:45] <mwe> SEJeff: vigr and vipw doesn't use vi as editor, despite the name. it uses $EDITOR, nano by default
[06:45] <ColonelPanique> MacXimain : that forum says nothing about requiring the latest version of Samba...you don't really need it.  you should spare yourself the grief of trying to go to bleeding edge when you don't need it.
[06:45] <Some_Body> and what is the command for running the mouse configuration program? Mouseconfig?
[06:45] <topyli> MacXimain: what is the forum thread supposed to be about? i see no information there ;-)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> alt+F2 will bring up the run box or you can use ctrl+alt+F2 to get into term only and to get back its ctrl+alt+F
[06:46] <gnomefreak> 7
[06:46] <mwe> SEJeff: editing groups and passwd by hand means leaving the system in a state where you can't login if you make a mistake.
[06:46] <Some_Body> thankds gnome
[06:46] <SEJeff> mwe, oh, the first thing I do on ubuntu is remove nano
[06:46] <SEJeff> mwe, You are right then
[06:47] <topyli> SEJeff: what's wrong with nano?
[06:48] <odat> anyone have any experience with officejet all in one's   scanning stuff
[06:48] <topyli> !anyone
[06:48] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[06:48] <Surak> odat: I own one of those
[06:49] <SEJeff> topyli, vi is much much faster than nano
[06:49] <odat> Surak, any luck getting scanning to work
[06:49] <Surak> It just works (R)
[06:49] <topyli> SEJeff: oh it is? i've never noticed. it's a better editor in many other ways of course.
[06:49] <Surak> using the hplip package
[06:50] <topyli> SEJeff: where have you last seen vi?
[06:50] <skon> SEJeff: it's barely noticeable on a _decent_ machine
[06:50] <MacXimain> topyli, May not have been the right thread..... But theres a threasd there that alks about how OS X Finder Locks up when trying to connect to the kubuntu/ubuntu machine.  Basically said that the 3.0.14 has problems and to upgrade Samba to 3.0.20 and that seems to fix the problem
[06:50] <SEJeff> skon, I am referring to something in vi as in d20d to delete 20 lines or y4y to copy 4 lines. You can't do that in nano
[06:50] <topyli> MacXimain: ok, so you better do that
[06:50] <dabaR__> are you guys really discussing this or am I misreading?
[06:50] <odat> Surak, each time i use xsane to try and scan i get a reading i/o device error
[06:50] <TokenBad> how dcc chat in xchat?
[06:51] <SEJeff> topyli, I am a Unix / Linux systems admin. They don't have nano on HP-UX or solaris (which I work on every day)
[06:51] <Surak> odat: use hplip
[06:51] <skon> SEJeff: okay, thought you were referring to processing time
[06:51] <PeteyPablo> can somone help me with an ssh problem ?
[06:51] <topyli> SEJeff: does hp-ux have the original vi?
[06:51] <ColonelPanique> vi/vim is a pretty good standard editor.  you will not be finding nano installed on the majority of other *nix systems by default too.  it's better to learn something that is universally present on almost all *nix-like systems than have to constantly be installing some little special friendly editor. ;-)
[06:51] <topyli> !start an editor war
[06:51] <ubotu> topyli: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:51] <butcherbird> PeteyPablo: what is problem?
[06:51] <Surak> odat: turn the machine on with the scanner already on. make sure the hplip service is being run
[06:51] <topyli> oh, it's removed
[06:51] <skon> TokenBad: /dialog screeName
[06:52] <MacXimain> ok here's the thread i was reading Earlier : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82039&highlight=samba+os
[06:52] <topyli> SEJeff: yeah well, defaulting to nano is a debian peculiarity
[06:52] <PeteyPablo> butcherbird: http://pastebin.com/487383
[06:52] <odat> Surak, i have the hpoj libraries installed as well as the hplip libraries installed
[06:52] <hikenboot> I installed mkinitrd-cd because that was the only package i could find with mkinitrd in it...is it called somthing else or should i install some tools from somewhere?
[06:53] <Surak> odat: hpoj is no longer necessary. it should be removed.
[06:53] <odat> Surak, will i still be able to print using the hplip?
[06:53] <Surak> odat: yes
[06:54] <odat> Surak, and are these two libraries causing a conflict that doesn't allow the scanner to work right now
[06:54] <butcherbird> ah you can always just del the known hosts file under /home/pete/.ssh/
[06:54] <odat> ?
[06:54] <butcherbird> PeteyPablo: ^^
[06:54] <PeteyPablo> butcherbird: ?
[06:54] <PeteyPablo> butcherbird: ok thanks
[06:55] <butcherbird> :)
[06:55] <massiC> hi, did anyone played with OVAL and ovaldi interpreter?
[06:55] <sockpuppe1> albacker
[06:56] <albacker> sockpuppe1, hello !
[06:56] <sockpuppe1> mire dita shok!
[06:56] <odat> Surak, do i need the libsane-extras?
[06:57] <odat> ?
[06:58] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with sharing itunes music library over daap in rhythmbox so i can play shared music in ubuntu?
[07:01] <PeteyPablo> damn my shell had hardware failure!
[07:01] <dylan_> how do i secure my linux box?
[07:01] <skon> dylan_: against what?
[07:01] <topyli> dylan_: how have you made it insecure? ;-)
[07:02] <albacker> dylan_, linux is almost secure by default :)
[07:02] <ColonelPanique> dylan_ : power it down, and lock it in a bank vault?
[07:02] <skon> dylan_: there are books written on this. In general, shutdown telnet, ftp, apache if you don't need it, smtp if you don't need it...use ipchains, run chkrootkit, etc
[07:02] <albacker> some people use antivirueses : dylan_. try finidng one !
[07:02] <dylan_> topyli, i simply installed it...i see security guides online to secure linux but they seem hard
[07:02] <sockpuppe1> bank vaults?!?! thats it>?
[07:03] <dylan_> how do i do these things?
[07:03] <topyli> dylan_: yeah i now there are all sorts of guides
[07:03] <dylan_> topyli, they are difficult to read
[07:03] <topyli> dylan_: do you run a mail server? does it have many windows clients?
[07:03] <skon> dylan: go to System:Administration:Services and shutdown everything you don't need
[07:03] <gnomefreak> antivirus on linux is mostly unneeded
[07:03] <MacXimain> is the apt repository list still located in ETC/APT
[07:04] <skon> gnomefreak: haha this is the sad truth...
[07:04] <sampan> macximain  yes /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <dabaR__> topyli: ya, he runs a bank with his server...he just needs to secure it.
[07:04] <dylan_> topyli, no i am just a single machine
[07:04] <topyli> dylan_: do you want to run database or web servers locally and hide them from the internet
[07:04] <MacXimain> thanks sampan
[07:04] <sampan> np
[07:04] <topyli> dylan_: don't worry, just enjoy
[07:04] <ColonelPanique> gnomefreak : not yet anyway. ;-) the Chinese are working on it though.
[07:04] <dylan_> topyli, so there's nothing i should do?
[07:04] <Benji> gnomefreak: Good to have if you're running a mail server that's hosting pop3 for windows users
[07:04] <topyli> dylan_: just believe it :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> if you need antivirus on linux your not doing something right
[07:04] <PeteyPablo> can somone give me the un tar.gz command?
[07:05] <dylan_> topyli, its very hard to believe it....i mean, why isnt there any linux virus / spyware?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Benji,  good point
[07:05] <drivamgr2006> since there are practically no virii which can infect linux, ttbomk, an antivirus package for linux is about as useless as as a chocolate parasol on a hot day.
[07:05] <skon> drivamgr2006: roflcopters
[07:05] <topyli> dylan_: very hard to write viruses and spyware for linux. i've never seen any
[07:05] <Sanne> PeteyPablo: look at 'man tar' in the example section.
[07:05] <ColonelPanique> PeteyPablo : tar zxvf <file>
[07:05] <PeteyPablo> ColonelPanique: thanks
[07:06] <topyli> dylan_: just keep your system up to date and don't surf the net as root
[07:06] <skon> dylan_: just shutdown the services you don't need and your linux is pretty much as secure as you'll ever need it to be
[07:06] <dylan_> skon, even as a server?
[07:06] <skon> dylan_: server for what?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> topyli, from my understanding worms or (viruses that attack mail) are really the only thing that linux users need to watch for
[07:06] <dylan_> skon, i dont really know yet....i am 15 years old and am looking for a career in computers and linux...
[07:07] <topyli> dylan_: if you want to run a service, you probably want it to be shown to the net, right? so nothing there, except to  make sure your software is up to date
[07:07] <skon> dylan_: I'm 17 and I'm looking for a career in computers and security :-D
[07:07] <pashaw> dylan_,   do you have cable or DSL?
[07:07] <Benji> anti-virus for linux is pretty much to keep the windows users that will transfer files/data off of your server on to their windows box
[07:07] <dylan_> pashaw, DSL
[07:07] <Benji> ie. samba fileserver, mail server, webserver, ftp
[07:07] <dabaR__> come on people
[07:07] <topyli> gnomefreak: yeah well, there are all kinds of cracks for insecure (not up to date) boxen with stupid admins
[07:07] <skon> linux is anti-virus
[07:07] <gnomefreak> topyli, true
[07:08] <pashaw> dylan_,   did it come with a firewall on your DSL modem/router   or did you add a firewall like a linksys/netgear?
[07:08] <diederick> gnomefreak, i'm still trying to install ubuntu, but the install stops at "detecting hardware" and "Loading module ide-generic"
[07:08] <ILF_> anyone know hot to get mplayer-nogui to breezy? marillats .deb has dependency problems :(
[07:08] <diederick> do you know ho I can fix that?
[07:08] <dylan_> pashaw, i have a d-link router
[07:08] <dylan_> 4 port
[07:08] <gnomefreak> diederick, did you reburn it?
[07:08] <skon> dylan_: if you want to run a "server", for example a web server, you'll just need to keep  apache2 running, and if you want to be able to acces your server from outside, you'll need an SSH server
[07:08] <diederick> yes
[07:08] <diederick> using the slowest speeds possible
[07:09] <pashaw> dylan_,   then  your good
[07:09] <Benji> and if you have a poo cable provider like mine...you'll have to have sshd listen on port 8022 or whatever above 1024
[07:09] <marcot> hi to all!!! W ubuntu for g3 ppc!! :-)
[07:09] <diederick> could it be that there is something with the IDE? or acpi?
[07:09] <pashaw> dylan_,   what do you want to learn first?    we can point you in the right direction
[07:09] <gnomefreak> diederick, could be
[07:09] <dylan_> pashaw, i want to learn security
[07:09] <gnomefreak> is that the only place its stopping?
[07:09] <dylan_> pashaw, and i want to be really really really comfy with the CLI
[07:10] <diederick> yes
[07:10] <topyli> dylan_: here's a howto if you want to improve the poor state of viruses on linux and try to write one: http://virus.enemy.org/virus-writing-HOWTO/_html/
[07:10] <diederick> i'm trying noapic, nolapic no
[07:10] <diederick> now
[07:10] <fangorious> my laptop has suddenly switched to going to sleep instead of hibernate even though I specify the hibernate.sh script in sleepbtn.sh
[07:10] <pashaw> dylan_,   google    search   firewall   or router NAT    or  iptables
[07:10] <skon> Benji: why isn't it port 22?
[07:10] <topyli> dylan_: but it's not going to be easy to get it to spread :)
[07:10] <diederick> oh and somethimes at the keyboard selection/language selection..
[07:10] <Benji> skon: Because I can't accept connections outside on ports over 1024
[07:10] <topyli> skon: so that people supposedly have a harder time guessing the port
[07:10] <Benji> cable internet provider
[07:10] <gnomefreak> diederick, see it stopping there is what is bothering me about the iso/or burn
[07:11] <topyli> Benji: oh that too
[07:11] <pashaw> dylan_,    CLI    google search   BASH
[07:11] <skon> Benji: Interesting....I have cable too...what company?
[07:11] <Benji> er on ports less than 1024
[07:11] <Benji> i mean
[07:11] <Benji> it's a local cable provider
[07:11] <Benji> eastern ohio, western pa
[07:11] <dabaR__> !enter
[07:11] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:11] <pashaw> dylan_,   if you want to learn a text editor type  in a terminal          vimtutor
[07:11] <Printer> Hello all.
[07:11] <xiaogil> which browser is the best except from firefox ?
[07:12] <Some_Body> ...avant?
[07:12] <skon> Ah okay
[07:12] <Some_Body> :P
[07:12] <Seveas> xiaogil, firefox :)
[07:12] <Benji> konqueror isn't bad
[07:12] <Seveas> xiaogil, and epiphany
[07:12] <topyli> xiaogil: they all suck. firefox probably sucks least
[07:12] <odat> anyone have any experience with officejet scanning
[07:12] <MacXimain> WOOHOO!!!!!! It works
[07:12] <MacXimain> Yippeeeeee
[07:12] <Some_Body> seriously, I'm joking, flee from avant like the plague
[07:12] <Gecko> xiaogil: konqueror just passed the acid2 test I heard
[07:12] <xiaogil> Gecko: but i use gnome, not kde
[07:13] <Some_Body> horrible security
[07:13] <MacXimain> thanks topyli and everyone involved in helping me
[07:13] <Benji> xiaogil, can still run konquerer in gnome
[07:13] <Some_Body> almost as bad as ie, plus a fugly layout
[07:13] <xiaogil> what about galeon ?
[07:13] <PeteyPablo> to use the command screen you just type screen right?
[07:13] <Printer> Anyone use Firestarter?  If I add an inbound rule * PassiveFTP, Port 1024-65535, source anyone * would this be good to allow Passive Mode FTP to my server?
[07:13] <allison_1984> xiogil > opera !
[07:13] <oskude> can i make an image out of an audio cd ?
[07:14] <topyli> MacXimain: success?
[07:14] <Some_Body> allison:Damn straight
[07:14] <fbockstael> goodday all, what programm do I use to play a DVD in Ubuntu
[07:14] <Seveas> fbockstael, a dvd player :)
[07:14] <jouni__> what about epiphany.
[07:14] <Seveas> (totem is one)
[07:14] <topyli> fbockstael: totem, mplayer, whatever. but you do need the decss crack
[07:15] <fbockstael> i don't see a picture and sometimes i here a sound with the normal installed programms
[07:15] <allison_1984> SomeBody/ what do you use ?
[07:15] <Seveas> topyli, libdvdcss is enough (and legal, which decss is not)
[07:15] <Some_Body> for a browser?
[07:15] <Some_Body> firefox
[07:15] <MacXimain> topyli, Yes I can now connect to my breezy box by going into my finder>network> snd so forth...... I also found how-To install the .DEB  need to rt-click and goto the package menu
[07:15] <allison_1984> SomeBody> yea
[07:15] <topyli> MacXimain: great!
[07:15] <MacXimain> Well Back to the Rose Parade... :)
[07:16] <Some_Body> other than the horrible support for java, which isn't a big deal because most sites running java suck, firefox is great
[07:16] <topyli> Seveas: i like to distribute decss as a haiku poem, printed on paper :)
[07:16] <diederick> gnomefreak, I'm now burning the live cd
[07:17] <topyli> jouni__: i love epiphany, but i really want to use a few firefox extensions not available for it
[07:17] <gnomefreak> diederick, live cd shouldnt get you stuck there
[07:17] <diederick> ok, I hope its gonna work
[07:17] <diederick> gnomefreak, but could it be something with acpi?
[07:18] <diederick> (I disabled it for suse10, and than I came to CD3)
[07:18] <gnomefreak> diederick, did you turn off acpi in the bios?
[07:18] <Some_Body> No viruses through the night, firefox is all right, one trojan is not so bad-Hooray, firefox haiku. First in history?
[07:18] <diederick> hmm no
[07:18] <diederick> do I have to?
[07:18] <ahmed> Hi
[07:18] <gnomefreak> diederick, mine is off you might wanna try it
[07:18] <diederick> oke
[07:18] <MWettendorff> anyone here with experince in webserver??
[07:19] <ahmed> I have a problem with my firefox
[07:19] <allison_1984> Some_Body > are you on ubuntu ?
[07:19] <Some_Body> what is it?
[07:19] <Some_Body> not currently, mouse is glitching out
[07:19] <topyli> ahmed: please ask your question
[07:19] <Hendikins> ahmed: I run #firefox. I may be able to help you with it if you tell us what it is.
[07:20] <allison_1984> Some_Body > normally I associate trojans with windows.....
[07:20] <Hendikins> (and if I can stay awake, it is 5:20am here)
[07:20] <ahmed> when I run Firefox , there is segmentation fault message
[07:20] <Hendikins> butcherbird: Excuse me?
[07:20] <skon> MWettendorff: ask your question
[07:20] <Hendikins> ahmed: What version of Firefox?
[07:21] <Some_Body> hm, virus rather
[07:21] <allison_1984> ........O...o....just installed flash on firefox....
[07:21] <ahmed> hendikins , I'm running Ubuntu Breezy 5.10
[07:21] <Some_Body> forced me to "upgrade" to 1.5...
[07:21] <alvanson> How do I get GNOME to use a different date format?  Specifically ISO 8601.
[07:21] <Hendikins> Hrm, maybe I shouldn't have admitted to knowing anything about Firefox...
[07:21] <MacXimain> topyli, ok One more thing.... I can browse to the shared folder and all but i can't seem to write to it. Seems to be a simple permission problem.
[07:22] <Hendikins> ahmed: I take it you're using the included Firefox 1.0.7?
[07:22] <MacXimain> I've created a folder inside my home folder and checked the writable option but it doesn't let me write to it
[07:22] <ahmed> by the way , is there an update for Firefox ?
[07:22] <gonffen> Did you guys hear about nubuntu? http://digg.com/mods/nUbuntu_-_Formula_One_Released
[07:22] <topyli> MacXimain: hmm. my smb.conf is from 1995 or something, i don't remember :)
[07:22] <topyli> MacXimain: let me see
[07:22] <Mr_Milenko> OOOOLD
[07:22] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:23] <Hendikins> ahmed: Firefox 1.5 is the latest release, although I don't think there is an official package for breezy
[07:23] <MWettendorff> skon: when i write a text in danich, i get  insted of getting the normal characters.. it is set to used the font type "tahoma" wich i know have the characters in it
[07:24] <topyli> MacXimain: are you using user or share level security?
[07:24] <ahmed> Henikins .... shall I update Firefox from source ??
[07:24] <MacXimain> where would i find out topyli
[07:24] <skon> MWettendorf: er...sorry no idea, I never have had to work with international configurations
[07:24] <True_Chaos> Im thinking im fucked here, but my mom hardshutdown my laptop (running kubuntu) cause the blinking lights annoyed her. Im now stuck at GRUB Loading, Please wait...
[07:24] <Hendikins> ahmed: You may wish to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:24] <topyli> MacXimain: in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:24] <True_Chaos> And ive no clue how to go about recovering
[07:24] <Hendikins> and I may wish to go through that at some point and update it if I see fit.
[07:24] <gnomefreak> !coc
[07:24] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:24] <topyli> MacXimain: i have "security = user" there
[07:24] <MWettendorff> skon; no problem.. was just hoping.. :)
[07:25] <Some_Body> true chaos, do you have a recovery disk
[07:25] <Some_Body> for your computer?
[07:25] <topyli> MacXimain: but then, i have the same usernames and passwords on the linux box and the windows box
[07:25] <MacXimain> I have security = share
[07:25] <True_Chaos> Some_Body: ive got the kubuntu install disk, and a kubuntu live disk, but no install disk =\
[07:25] <MacXimain> i also have the same username/passwords on both machines
[07:25] <True_Chaos> er recover
[07:25] <topyli> MacXimain: and then, i have no idea what is smart for mac clients...
[07:25] <skon> True_Chaos: swearing has gotten people banned before
[07:25] <Some_Body> ok
[07:25] <True_Chaos> skon: sry :(
[07:26] <skon> just warning, I'm not the op
[07:26] <joshi> Hello. I have problem- When i try to load subtitles with xine... it crashes. Does anybody know solution for this?
[07:26] <ahmed> :) thank you for the site ... I gonna check it but I need to reboot since Firefox do not start !!
[07:26] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I'm not an ubuntu user, does that mean I can ignore the coc? ;-)
[07:26] <pashaw> MacXimain,   you can see the share but cant write to it?
[07:26] <Some_Body> find exactly what kind of processor you're running, and go to the company's site
[07:26] <Hendikins> ahmed: Did you change anything before Firefox stopped working?
[07:26] <topyli> MacXimain: there's also a setting in smb.conf for "writable = yes"
[07:26] <MacXimain> pashaw, that is correct
[07:26] <True_Chaos> Some_Body: ive got the dell recovery disks, but those are for windows :P
[07:26] <amias> hi all , happy new year and stuff
[07:27] <Some_Body> ...eh, I thought the disks interacted only with the bios?
[07:27] <Benji> is IOMMU support disabled with the pre-compiled kernel image from the repository?
[07:27] <Hendikins> Firefox usually (but not always) needs a bit of help to blow itself up
[07:27] <ahmed> no .......... I was browsing ...and all of a sudden Firefox closed itself !! and refused to start again !!
[07:27] <ahmed> is it a virous ??
[07:27] <pashaw> MacXimain,   id use security = user       cat /etc/samba/smb.conf   near bottom will be the share you created you should see  writeable = yes
[07:27] <MacXimain> maybe thats it topyli  I don't have that line I have read only = no
[07:27] <amias> the MD5 sums on the dapper package list are wrong
[07:27] <topyli> ahmed: no it's not a virus
[07:28] <Hendikins> ahmed: Unlikely to be a virus. It is possible that your prefs.js file got corruped though, try moving it out of the way.
[07:28] <Hendikins> er, corrupted.
[07:28] <amias> ahmed,  is it always the same site ? do they use lots of javascript ?
[07:28] <topyli> MacXimain: the syntax may have changed of course, and my old file might have some legacy lines that modern samba doesn't even read :)
[07:28] <Hendikins> amias: This is a "crashed and won't start again" problem, from what I can gather.
[07:28] <True_Chaos> grr, I wish I knew what GRUB was hanging on =\
[07:29] <ahmed> actually , they are the sites I browes usually ... nothing new
[07:29] <dooglus> I can't get "locate" to work in dapper.  Is anyone else having the same problem?  It's been like it for about 2 weeks now.
[07:29] <amias> Hendikins, aah , does sound like prefs.js
[07:29] <MWettendorff> Anyone here that knowes, where i can finde the fonts?
[07:29] <Hendikins> ahmed: In fact, try renaming ~/.mozilla/firefox or move it out of the way completely, then start Firefox. It should work.
[07:29] <yaaar> word
[07:29] <LathropWells> Is the U.S. repository server working smoothly? (just curious don't get alarmed)
[07:29] <gnomefreak> dooglus it worked on dapper for me but on breezy atm
[07:29] <fbockstael> Someone has an Epson AcuLaser C1900?
[07:29] <amias> ahmed, or try it as another user for a less potentialy destructive method
[07:30] <dooglus> (dapper) chris@chrislap:~$ locate whatever
[07:30] <dooglus> Segmentation fault
[07:30] <yaaar> man, i'm having the strangest problem with ubuntu recognizing my dvds properly.
[07:30] <amias> ahmed,  su - someotheruser && firefox
[07:30] <dooglus> that's what I see
[07:30] <Hendikins> amias: How is moving the data destructive? One can simply put it back.
[07:30] <Seveas> dooglus, :|
[07:30] <ahmed> :) good idea .... I will start it using another user
[07:30] <amias> Hendikins, might be a dodgy sector/indode
[07:30] <Some_Body> good luck tc
[07:30] <shining_> dooglus: it finds some files here and then it segfaults
[07:31] <Hendikins> amias: Well, if that's the case, then [s] he's got bigger problems...
[07:31] <True_Chaos> Some_Body: If a live cd works, any other ideas?
[07:31] <joshi> I have problem- When i try to load subtitles with xine... it crashes. Does anybody know solution for this?
[07:31] <yaaar> normally, if you put one in the drive it autoloads totem correctly and plays the dvd just fine. but if you either a)boot with a dvd in the drive or b)put a dvd in the drive just after ejecting a blank cd/dvd ....then instead of totem loading it pops up the "do you want to burn a data or audio cd" thing as though the disc were blank
[07:32] <Some_Body> don't have any experience with the live cd or much with ubuntu, but once there, try to re0install grub
[07:32] <Some_Body> *re-install
[07:32] <True_Chaos> hmm, ok
[07:32] <yaaar> and if you eject it and put it back in, the same thing happens. the only way i've found to get around it is to insert a normal data cd, and then put the dvd back in....then it works fine
[07:32] <ahmed> :) I am facing another problem ...... the terminal refuses to start also !!!!
[07:32] <yaaar> anybody have any clue why it would do this?
[07:32] <gnomefreak> dooglus hold on let me boot back to dapper and ill let you know if it errors for me
[07:32] <Hendikins> ahmed: Then I think you've got bigger problems than Firefox not running.
[07:32] <amias> ahmed,  i'd put money on both of those being related
[07:33] <dooglus> Seveas: I tried recompiling from source, but that gives:
[07:33] <dooglus> $ locate whatever
[07:33] <yaaar> other hints: the title of the disc changes. when it's working right, the volume label is listed, when it thinks its blank it's just labelled "dvd-rom"
[07:33] <dooglus> locate: fatal error: search_db: read: '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db': Bad file descriptor
[07:33] <polytek> elho :) my gnome's screen saver doesn't start... any ideas for a solution ?
[07:33] <dooglus> shining_: oh, you have the same?
[07:33] <MWettendorff> Anyone here that knowes, where i can finde the fonts?
[07:33] <shining_> dooglus: yes but it seems to work
[07:33] <amias> MWettendorff, google ?
[07:33] <dooglus> shining_: it finds a few files for me too
[07:33] <shining_> dooglus: it finds the file, then it segfaults so it doesnt really matter
[07:33] <Seveas> dooglus, does updatedb work (as root)
[07:33] <yaaar> also, if you dismiss the burning window and try to open totem manually, it says it couldn't find an entry for /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab. but that entry is clearly there
[07:33] <ahmed> :) is the problem with Ubuntu Breezy ??
[07:33] <dooglus> shining_: (it's just that I don't have "whatever"
[07:33] <dooglus> Seveas: it appears to
[07:34] <Seveas> then let that finish and try agin, maybe the db is corrupt
[07:34] <fbockstael> MWettendorf: maybe in /usr/share/fonts?
[07:34] <yaaar> MWettendorff: check the getting started guide in the ubuntu help section (click the lifesaver bouy at the top of your screen)
[07:34] <dooglus> Seveas: it runs every day - but locate has been broken for over a week
[07:34] <fbockstael> or /var/lib
[07:34] <Hendikins> ahmed: Breezy is unlikely to be the problem, otherwise more users would be having the same trouble as you. Sounds like hardware.
[07:34] <yaaar> MWettendorff: there's a section on fonts there that takes you step by step
[07:34] <topyli> ahmed: can you start _any_ graphical programs?
[07:35] <MWettendorff> yaaar: thanks
[07:35] <yaaar> np
[07:35] <tbw> do i need to do something special to watch dvd's under breezy?
[07:35] <yaaar> tbw: yes.
[07:35] <dooglus> !dvd
[07:35] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:35] <Seveas> dooglus, and a dpkg --force-depends -P locate followed by a reinstall of it did not help?
[07:35] <ubuntu__> hello room
[07:35] <shining_> ahmed: did you try to launch it from a terminal ? is there any output?
[07:35] <dooglus> Seveas: I didn't try that.
[07:35] <yaaar> tbw: check the getting started guide (see above comment to MWettendorff) and look for a link to a wiki page called "RestrictedFormats"
[07:35] <pashaw> ahmed,  did you login as root?
[07:35] <tbw> yaaar: Thanks
[07:36] <Hendikins> topyli: ahmed was saying something about Firefox crash -> kaboom. Doesn't sound like software to me.
[07:36] <Hendikins> pashaw: apparently they can't start an xterm, if I'm parsing it correctly
[07:36] <yaaar> so, anybody have a clue about that funny dvd autoloading problem? seems crazy to me
[07:36] <Seveas> dooglus, then try it :)
[07:36] <dooglus> Seveas: I'll try an "updatedb" after replacing /usr/bin/slocate with my debuggable version and see if I can get it to run then
[07:36] <ahmed> :) only nautilius
[07:36] <tbw> !dvd
[07:36] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:36] <amias> ahmed,  have you run memtest on that machine ? should be an option in the grub menu . If it shows any errors then try different RAM
[07:36] <fizzle> where is the mount location for cdrom
[07:36] <topyli> ahmed: ah, but nautilus is already running all the time :)
[07:36] <allison_1984> tbw > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:37] <MacXimain> topyli, When i Modify smb.conf do i need to restart for the changes to take effect?
[07:37] <pashaw> lol he quit fast
[07:37] <yaaar> tbw: allison_1984 just gave the link that really matters for that
[07:37] <Seveas> MacXimain, you only need to restart samba
[07:37] <gnomefreak> dooglus it finds everything than segmentation faults but its still finding the <object>
[07:37] <Hendikins> amias: memtest86 or badblocks. Toss a coin, eh?
[07:37] <MacXimain> thanks Seveas
[07:37] <topyli> MacXimain: yes, restart samba. sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[07:37] <topyli> MacXimain: no reboot
[07:37] <MacXimain> thanks topyli
[07:37] <shining_> MacXimain: reload should be enough if available
[07:37] <Some_Body> nice, another moronic program from lifetime
[07:38] <topyli> shining_: true
[07:38] <Some_Body> these things make life worth living
[07:38] <Some_Body> :D
[07:38] <amias> Hendikins,  i think ahmed just got eaten by the goblins that took his firefox , RIP
[07:38] <Seveas> Some_Body, please don't start off-topic talks
[07:38] <Some_Body> hehe, something on the paranormal
[07:38] <Some_Body> eh, ok
[07:38] <Seveas> we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chater
[07:38] <Hendikins> amias: heh
[07:38] <topyli> Some_Body: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic was created for our bullshit :)
[07:38] <Kindred> I want to shrink some dvd's.. any ideas? :|
[07:39] <dooglus> gnomefreak: so you have the problem too
[07:39] <amias> Kindred,  stand further away ?
[07:39] <yaaar> Kindred: shrink them down to cdrom size, or to single-layer dvd size?
[07:39] <dooglus> gnomefreak: locate shouldn't segfault - I'm surprised nobody has fixed it
[07:39] <Kindred> yeah single layer
[07:39] <Hendikins> topyli: I have the same problem on moznet with off-topic stuff, except our off-topic channel is actually called #bs :P
[07:39] <Seveas> Kindred, knife, hacksaw?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> dooglus i see it this way if that is the biggest issue that your having with dapper smile :))
[07:39] <yaaar> Kindred: use dvdshrink in wine
[07:39] <topyli> Hendikins: :D
[07:39] <MacXimain> why do i have to be logged in to breezy in order to browse my shared folders
[07:39] <JayLv99> what is Cas Latency on RAM?
[07:39] <tbw> woot
[07:39] <tbw> dvd playback
[07:40] <Kindred> hehe, I run 64 bit.. setting up a chroot to then run wine to then 'emulate' windows apps is not my idea of fun :P
[07:40] <dooglus> gnomefreak: agreed.  there's not a lot to complain about.  probably my biggest complaint would be that my external monitor keeps blanking for a second every 5 seconds or so
[07:40] <pashaw> JayLv99,    you can google that stuff its not #ubuntu  related
[07:40] <yaaar> Kindred: well, I'll tell you what. If you find a native app that does it, let me know.
[07:40] <amias> JayLv99,  its the timing of the memory , most is 3 unless you spent loads on it
[07:40] <shining_> dooglus: that's really weird
[07:40] <gnomefreak> my moniter does that when i go to run an app
[07:40] <dooglus> shining_: what?
[07:40] <JayLv99> amias: would 2.5 be bad?
[07:40] <Seveas> amias, -ETOPIC
[07:40] <Seveas> go to #ubuntu-offtopic please for off-topic chat
[07:41] <JayLv99> ok
[07:41] <JayLv99> sorry
[07:41] <Hendikins> topyli: The only problem is that people don't think #bs is a real channel ;-)
[07:41] <ahmed> Hi again
[07:41] <yaaar> Kindred: I've searched for a long, long, loooong time for one that will shrink to dvd format while keeping the menus/special features/sound streams/subtitles/etc. Haven't found anything yet
[07:41] <yaaar> Kindred: but wine+dvdshrink works perfectly
[07:41] <topyli> Hendikins: fools. those channels are the best
[07:41] <yaaar> Kindred: (on my 32b gear)
[07:41] <pashaw> ahmed,  logged in as normal user now?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> they fixed the issues i was having except the anjuta issue :((
[07:41] <ahmed> :) my PC stuck , so I had to reboot
[07:41] <Kindred> yaaar: okay thanks :) I should probably have mentioned I have xp installed still but a native app would have been great.
[07:42] <Hendikins> ahmed: Have you considered running memtest86? It sounds like you may have a hardware issue.
[07:42] <ahmed> everything is OK now ..... it seems I have a problem with my hardware as you said
[07:42] <yaaar> Kindred: you might go check dvdrip ....the last time i looked at it it wouldn't output to single-layer dvd...but that's been a few months now, so maybe they added it.
[07:42] <pashaw> ahmed,  lol    sure'
[07:42] <topyli> Kindred: there probably are apps for linux, but these kind of apps are normally console stuff ment for you to wrap up in your own specialized scripts
[07:43] <ahmed> memtest .... ummm I'm gonna check
[07:43] <yaaar> Kindred: it's important to note that there isn't any reason for this app not to exist....transcode has everything needed to do the job, and one time i even did properly shrink a dvd from the command line. but i spent hours getting it done, and no one has written a gui to take the stupid calculations and arcane commands out of the job
[07:43] <dooglus> Seveas: are you not having the same problem with locate?  Or are you not running dapper?
[07:43] <Seveas> dooglus, the latter
[07:44] <topyli> ahmed: might be memory or hard disk. those are the usual suspects. might be too much heat for the cpu too, but then your whole box should crash
[07:44] <mmhss> can some1 help me to install apache , php and mysql ?
[07:44] <dooglus> Seveas: I see.
[07:44] <True_Chaos> whats the command to reinstall grub? Im on a liveCD right now...
[07:44] <Kindred> yaaar: yeah I did actually come across a howto on doing it through the command line, it was huge and would take me ages (literally hours) :)
[07:44] <yaaar> mmhss: what's the trouble
[07:44] <ColonelPanique> !tell mmhss about lamp
[07:44] <gnomefreak> reinstall-grub?
[07:44] <dooglus> so - does anyone run dapper and have a "locate" command which doesn't segfault?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> install-grub
[07:44] <Seveas> mmhss, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[07:45] <yaaar> Kindred: yeah. same here. it can be done.....but it's not at all practical
[07:45] <topyli> :D
[07:45] <shining_> dooglus: you should file a bug report and that's it
[07:45] <amias> anyone know how to configure metacity in dapper ? would like click to focus back again
[07:45] <mmhss> i tried to install it yestarday and i messed up few things
[07:45] <mmhss> i installed php4 and 5
[07:45] <dooglus> shining_: good idea
[07:45] <True_Chaos> gnomefreak: command not found :S
[07:45] <gnomefreak> wait
[07:45] <mmhss> and i think apache 1 and 2
[07:45] <dooglus> shining_: I'd like to file the fix with it though
[07:45] <mmhss> lol
[07:45] <gnomefreak> im looking for bug now
[07:45] <mmhss> and now it doesnt work at all
[07:45] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I looked a few days ago, but it wasn't there
[07:45] <mmhss> well the apaches workin but php isnt
[07:45] <topyli> mmhss: you should take care to remove everything so that you can start from scratch
[07:45] <ColonelPanique> heh heh...MySQL 4 and 5 too? ;-)
[07:45] <shining_> dooglus: start looking in locate bugzilla then or on google
[07:46] <yaaar> will apt-get allow you to install both php 4/5 and apache 1/2? that seems kind of silly
[07:46] <mmhss> i tired that but i cant get it to work :|
[07:46] <shining_> then you could try debugging it with gdb or something
[07:46] <Seveas> yaaar, why?
[07:46] <amias> yaaar, somethings depend on particular versions , its quite sensible IMO
[07:46] <Seveas> they don't byte each other if properly configured...
[07:46] <topyli> mmhss: did you use "purge" and see that all the config files are really gone too?
[07:46] <mmhss> no
[07:46] <mmhss> how i do that
[07:47] <yaaar> Seveas: dunno....i've just never in my life had any reason to want both apaches....
[07:47] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it's here - http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21525 - my mistake
[07:47] <topyli> mmhss: in synaptic, see which packages have "residual config" and mark them for "complete removal"
[07:47] <mmhss> ok to make this clear i was hi yestarday and i kinda didn know what i was doin ok :)
[07:47] <gnomefreak> ty i was getting there :))
[07:47] <yaaar> on my gentoo servers i don't think you can do it without some serious messing around....a use flag determines whether you want 1 or 2
[07:48] <ahmed> I guess it is both .... ram & hard desk ..... not over-heating since it is very cold here
[07:48] <Seveas> yaaar, that's broken
[07:48] <yaaar> mmhss: that's no excuse, son; you need to function better when high ;-)
[07:48] <Seveas> (as so many things on gentoo are...)
[07:48] <shining_> dooglus: yes nice :)
[07:48] <stark-johan> I have two ethernet cards, one for internet and one for my lan. How would I connect to internal adresses? I run an ftp on another computer in my LAN.
[07:48] <True_Chaos> grr, grub-install, which is the correct command, apparently isnt found
[07:48] <topyli> mmhss: maybe this will be of assistance: http://snipurl.com/l85i
[07:48] <gnomefreak> looks like no fix
[07:48] <Some_Body> hm
[07:49] <mmhss> haha yaaar :P i know but still im noob when it comes to linux :P
[07:49] <yaaar> Seveas: I disagree, and dare say that the very bright folks in #gentoo-apache could argue the point more effectively than myself
[07:49] <Some_Body> try installing lilo or another bootloader
[07:49] <mmhss> its my ~ 3rd day now :p
[07:49] <ahmed> thank you all ................bye :)
[07:49] <amias> when i try to adjust themes i am told that either metacity is not installed ( it is) or gconf has no theme schemas , anyone got a fix
[07:50] <marcster> hi. is there a tool in ubuntu which lists all processes to be run on boot, similar to chkconfig?
[07:50] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of a grapical program to find duplicate files over a 500G system? around 100G is obsolete files ect
[07:51] <Some_Body> aw, somebody stole my domain name
[07:51] <Some_Body> ANGER
[07:51] <Seveas> Some_Body, last time: no off-topicness in here
[07:51] <shining_> Some_Body: you stole your own domain name? that's weird
[07:51] <True_Chaos> ok, grub-install doesnt work, says command not found... I dont know what else to do
[07:51] <Some_Body> ok, right, sorry...
[07:51] <yaaar> mmhss: ok, did you go into synaptic and completely remove the ones that topyli said?
[07:51] <mmhss> so should i go to synaptic pm and set all the components from php apache mysql to complete removal ? and then try from scrach ?
[07:51] <marcster> hi. is there a tool in ubuntu which lists all processes to be run on boot, similar to chkconfig?
[07:51] <gnomefreak> True_Chaos, how bout update-grub
[07:52] <shining_> mmhss: whats the problem?
[07:52] <CountDown> Happy New Year.  Anyone know why Firefox on Breezy is crashing so often?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> CountDown, what version of FF
[07:52] <topyli> mmhss: that's what i would do, and then follow some good tutorial to reinstall the services
[07:52] <True_Chaos> gnomefreak: command not found
[07:53] <Hendikins> This will be the last question I look at before bed time
[07:53] <gnomefreak> ummmmmmm True_Chaos ok try a totally different command
[07:53] <CountDown> gnomefreak: I think it's the default version - 1.0.7.
[07:53] <mmhss> ok removed
[07:53] <shining_> True_Chaos: slocate grub ?
[07:53] <Hendikins> CountDown: Using extensions, tweaks, anything like that?
[07:54] <PeteyPablo> how do i tar.gz a file from command line?
[07:54] <gnomefreak> CountDown,  have you tried running it in terminal see if it crashes than too?
[07:54] <shining_> PeteyPablo: man tar
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell PeteyPablo abotu tar
[07:54] <yaaar> in evolution's setup, what does "automatically syncronize remote mail locally" mean? is that like keeping a local copy of imap messages so i can view them w/o network connection?
[07:54] <CountDown> Hendikins: I have the standard Flash player installed, but otherwise no.
[07:54] <CountDown> gnomefreak: I'll try running in terminal.
[07:54] <stark-johan> I have two ethernet cards, one for internet and one for my lan. How would I connect to internal adresses? I run an ftp on another computer in my LAN and I had no problems connecting to it in windows.
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell PeteyPablo about compile
[07:55] <shining_> CountDown: flash could make it crash
[07:55] <PeteyPablo> ?
[07:55] <shining_> CountDown: are you using composite?
[07:55] <mmhss> topyli how do i ues "purge"?
[07:55] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: you need to get the utility "tar" by apt-getting it, then read its man page for extraction usage
[07:55] <gnomefreak> PeteyPablo, i sugest reading as much as you cant before attempting to compile a tar
[07:55] <PeteyPablo> i just want to archive some files.
[07:55] <topyli> mmhss: sudo apt-get remove --purge FOO
[07:56] <gnomefreak> can/not cant
[07:56] <mmhss> k:P
[07:56] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: wait, sorry, i'm nuts
[07:56] <topyli> mmhss: where foo is the thing you're uninstallng :)
[07:56] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: you don't need to apt-get it
[07:56] <PeteyPablo> i know ..
[07:56] <mmhss> :P
[07:56] <PeteyPablo> so tar -c -gzip file ?
[07:56] <CountDown> gnomefreak, Hendikins, shining_ : I can't identify a pattern as to when it crashes.  shining_, what is composite?  Again, I'll try running in terminal.  Thanks.
[07:56] <True_Chaos> shining_: /usr/share/doc/memtest86+/examples/grub-menu.lst, and /usr/share/vim/vim63/stbtax/grub.vim is all it returns
[07:56] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: that i think will output it to stdout
[07:56] <PeteyPablo> whats stdout ?
[07:57] <shining_> True_Chaos: so install grub
[07:57] <PeteyPablo> i want to make a archive like archive manager does
[07:57] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: in this case, the screen
[07:57] <MacXimain> topyli, no luck.... I can't even connect to it now
[07:57] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: you probably want to do      tar -xvzf outputfile.tgz inputfile
[07:57] <tarvid> any recommendations on a usb 56k modem?
[07:57] <True_Chaos> shining_: how? I cant seem to do it... im using a liveCD right now
[07:57] <amias> when i try to adjust themes in dapper  i am told that either metacity is not installed ( it is) or gconf has no theme schemas , anyone got a fix
[07:57] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: doh!@
[07:57] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: you probably want to do      tar -cvzf outputfile.tgz inputfile
[07:58] <topyli> MacXimain: to apache? i think you just uninstalled it :)
[07:58] <mmhss> ok i did apt-get install apache2 and php4 exactly how it its in the wiki tutorial and still php doesnt work :|
[07:58] <shining_> True_Chaos: use another live cd then
[07:58] <MacXimain> samba . i can't write to a shared folder
[07:58] <shining_> mmhss: define doesn't work
[07:58] <mmhss> when i access a php file | ff ask me where should i save it
[07:58] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: see, the -f option tells it to write the end result to a file....without it, it just spews into the screen (stdout)
[07:58] <topyli> MacXimain: i'm beginning to blame the mac clients :\
[07:58] <Mitja> kbluetoothd: Bind failed: No such device" messages. Is there any way to turn it off?
[07:58] <mmhss> its trying to download it
[07:58] <shining_> mmhss: firefox?
[07:58] <lillpelle> is it possible to show "shockwave >= 8.5.1" in ubuntu?
[07:58] <mmhss> yes
[07:58] <PeteyPablo> yaaar: tanks
[07:58] <MacXimain> lol
[07:59] <shining_> mmhss: clean cache
[07:59] <tarvid> mmhss, look for the apache2-php module
[07:59] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: however, you can redirect stdout to a file as well, or to another program....like this:    tar -czv inputfile >> outputfile.tgz
[07:59] <Manifold> Argh.
[07:59] <Manifold> Guys, I just closed the default panel at the top of the screen.
[07:59] <topyli> MacXimain: it's nervewrecking. when i finally got my samba setup just right, i've been saving that config file forever :)
[07:59] <Bachus9000> I have a Samba server running on Debian with a printer shared.  Ubuntu can print to it fine (using either Samba or CUPS) but Windows can not.
[07:59] <Manifold> How do I get it back?
[07:59] <mmhss> cash removed | didnt help
[08:00] <shining_> mmhss: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[08:00] <Seveas> Manifold, rightclick on top panel, select "new panel"
[08:00] <shining_> mmhss: using apache2 ?
[08:00] <Seveas> and re-add everything that was on the panel :)
[08:00] <mmhss> yes
[08:00] <Manifold> Yeah, but that doesn't give me an option to make it how it looked like before.
[08:00] <holycow> guys ... where would i have seen 'insert special character'?  i thought that would of been an app in applications/accessories?
[08:00] <Manifold> XD.
[08:00] <Seveas> Manifold, (window list, show desktop, desktop list, trash)
[08:00] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: the >> takes the stdout and appends it to the end of a file (creating it if nonexistant). you can use > instead of >> to start at the beginning of the file instead of appending, overwriting anything that's there. and you can use | to send it to std input on another program
[08:00] <mmhss> in /etc/ i have apache and apache2 for some reason :|
[08:01] <mmhss> should i remove the apache :P
[08:01] <mmhss> 1
[08:01] <PeteyPablo> yaaar: linux is so powerful :-P
[08:01] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: well, more accurately, bash is powerful
[08:01] <shining_> mmhss: let it atm
[08:01] <yaaar> PeteyPablo: but yes, it is.
[08:01] <shining_> mmhss: what does ls return?
[08:01] <shining_> do you show php files?
[08:01] <mmhss>  ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[08:01] <mmhss> cgi.load  userdir.conf  userdir.load
[08:01] <topyli> MacXimain: here's my smb.conf if it might be of any help: http://siltala.net/smb.conf
[08:02] <shining_> mmhss: you didn't even install apache php mod?
[08:02] <shining_> how could it work then
[08:02] <mmhss> hmm i think i did | i did apt-get install apache2 and php4 ( it should work)
[08:02] <shining_> no
[08:02] <shining_> mmhss: what tarvid said
[08:03] <MacXimain> thanks topyli
[08:03] <KarlosII> bbiab
[08:03] <mmhss> apache2-php module
[08:03] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : know of a grapical program to find and mass delete duplicate and obsolete files?
[08:03] <yaaar> mmhss: if you just install "php4" you get the cli version of php. there's a second package for "mod_php" which is an apache module to use php in websites
[08:03] <marcster> hi. is it necessary to simultaneously run atd, cron, and anacron? isnt this redundancy?
[08:04] <mmhss> this libapache2-mod-php4?
[08:04] <amias> are there no theme schemas available for dapper yet ?
[08:04] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, no, sorry
[08:04] <Seveas> mmhss, that or libapache-mod-php5
[08:04] <bogdan_> does somebody know how to  manually change network setting from dhcp to static
[08:04] <shining_> mmhss: I was wondering the same, which ones are really needed. atd and cron arent the same, I don't know what atacron is
[08:04] <Seveas> bogdan_, edit /etc/network/interfaces
[08:04] <Seveas> see the manpages for interfaces for all details
[08:04] <yaaar> bogdan_: permanently or one boot only
[08:04] <shining_> s/mmhss/marcster
[08:04] <Seveas> (and examples)
[08:04] <mmhss> that one php4 is installed
[08:05] <fizzle> hey i just hooked up a cd burner that uses ide-scsi emulation how do i get my cd burner working?
[08:05] <amias> bogdan_, or for a one of ifconfig eth0 ip.ad.dr.es
[08:05] <stjepan> hi
[08:05] <stjepan> anyone here uses ATI driver?
[08:05] <shining_> stjepan: no one
[08:05] <yaaar> fizzle: what kernel do you run? (try 'uname -a' to see)
[08:05] <yaaar> fizzle: you probably don't need scsi-emu
[08:05] <stjepan> shining_: why?
[08:05] <fizzle> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-6-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 10:54:06 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:05] <shining_> stjepan: ati sucks?
[08:05] <bogdan_> Seveas: I tried  to but I applied    network script and I got  only lo
[08:05] <Seveas> stjepan, I use the latest fglrx
[08:06] <tbw> I'm running a pentium-m laptop
[08:06] <yaaar> stjepan: i think he's pulling your leg...
[08:06] <amias> has click to focus been disabled for a reason or is this a bug ?
[08:06] <stjepan> Seveas: what's the output of 'fglrxinfo' ?
[08:06] <tbw> Centrino 1.7ghz... any ideas about what I can do make performance better?
[08:06] <yaaar> stjepan: i dare say someone is using ati. (but not me, and obviously not shining_ )
[08:06] <pashaw> tbw,  buy a 1.8 centrino?
[08:06] <Seveas> stjepan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6492
[08:07] <yaaar> fizzle: you have no need of ide-scsi. cd burning really ought to just work out of box)
[08:07] <mmhss> umm any ideas what shold i do now :P
[08:07] <mmhss> cause it still doesnt work :(
[08:07] <fizzle> yaaar, /dev/cdrw?
[08:07] <Seveas> mmhss, sudo a2enmod php4
[08:07] <yaaar> fizzle: have you tried burning a disc yet?
[08:07] <tbw> pashaw: well I've got a 7200RPM laptop drive on the way...
[08:07] <stjepan> Seveas:
[08:07] <stjepan> wow
[08:07] <shining_> mmhss: you show php now?
[08:07] <tbw> pashaw: and im looking into the 2ghz version
[08:07] <mmhss> no
[08:07] <fizzle> yaaar, nope how?
[08:07] <Seveas> stjepan, ?
[08:07] <fizzle> yaaar, k3b?
[08:07] <stjepan> Seveas: how did you install it?
[08:07] <tbw> pashaw: this POS is 400mhz FSB
[08:07] <fizzle> yaaar, or should i try command line?
[08:07] <Seveas> stjepan, .deb packages
[08:07] <yaaar> fizzle: sure, or gnomebaker, or serpentine, or nautilus.....
[08:07] <stjepan> Seveas: official driver, right?
[08:07] <pashaw> tbw,   your question was so general     i was making a joke
[08:08] <stjepan> Seveas: proprietary, closedsource?
[08:08] <yaaar> fizzle: it doesn't really matter.
[08:08] <fizzle> yaaar, which one uses less memory for the gui
[08:08] <Seveas> stjepan, yep
[08:08] <tbw> pashaw: I know you were.
[08:08] <yaaar> fizzle: are you running gnome?
[08:08] <mmhss> that libapache2-mod-php4 was installed already | so i reinstaled it just to make a sure its installed and ... i restarted the apache server as well and still doesnt work
[08:08] <tbw> pashaw: I was adding more info.
[08:08] <fizzle> yaaar,  fluxbox
[08:08] <yaaar> fizzle: k. do you want a data, audio, or what?
[08:08] <stjepan> Seveas: cool
[08:08] <christos_> Hi! Just a quick one... I've downloaded Kubuntu Dapper (both 386+amd64) dvds on 26Dec, but although the md5sums are ok there is in both of them a problem and there can be no installation at all, Do You Know if there is a real problem in these distros? I've seen that some new Dappers appeared in 30Dec. any ideas?
[08:08] <stjepan> Seveas: where did you get driver from?
[08:08] <Seveas> stjepan, if you want the debs: mirror.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:08] <fizzle> right now im tryin to burn isos
[08:08] <pashaw> tbw,    id check  if DMA is on     RAM usage, swap usage      check top  for process eating resources  etc
[08:08] <Seveas> hehe, read your mind :)
[08:09] <yaaar> fizzle: ok. what file manager have you been using?
[08:09] <mmhss> btw that libapache2-mod-php4 doesnt seems to work :| its not in the apache2/mod-enabled/
[08:09] <Seveas> mmhss, sudo a2enmod php4
[08:09] <stjepan> Seveas: you just installed it?
[08:09] <fizzle> yaaar, none, been using xterm ;)
[08:09] <Seveas> stjepan, no, a few days ago
[08:09] <tbw> pashaw, : yeah i looked with hdparm firs thing
[08:09] <stjepan> Seveas: I mean, you just installed it and everything worked?
[08:09] <tbw> I've got 749MB of ram free
[08:09] <pashaw> tbw,   how much RAM and what desktop you running? gnome?
[08:09] <tbw> using 10mb of swap
[08:09] <MacXimain> well im outta here... need to take a break
[08:10] <Seveas> stjepan, you have to edit xorg.conf :)
[08:10] <MacXimain> thanks topyli
[08:10] <tbw> pashaw: I've got a gig of ram, and yeah, gnome
[08:10] <mmhss> Seveas, still not workin
[08:10] <yaaar> fizzle: you can just go into nautilus and right-click and click 'burn-to-disc' to burn an iso. i don't know what the mem requirement of that is, but i wouldn't think it would be too stringent. are you *really* tight on mem?
[08:10] <pashaw> tbw,    whats slow?
[08:10] <Seveas> mmhss, what was the output of that command?
[08:10] <mmhss>  sudo a2enmod php4
[08:10] <mmhss> Module php4 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable.
[08:10] <fizzle> yaaar, indeed, 128mb
[08:10] <yaaar> fizzle: but anyhow, it's a simple command to burn an iso cli as well....just let me remember it
[08:10] <mmhss> ahh
[08:10] <Seveas> mmhss, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 reload
[08:10] <fizzle> yaaar, cdrecord speed=4 dev=0,0,0 image.iso
[08:11] <fizzle> i think thats it
[08:11] <tbw> pashaw: dvd's arekinda choppy.. totem gets my audio all out of sync on XViD playback
[08:11] <maxwell> Sorry to interrupt.
[08:11] <maxwell> but
[08:11] <damnsmall537> hey mates
[08:11] <yaaar> fizzle: looks pretty reasonable. i'd say maybe add a dao mode....lemme look for flag
[08:11] <mmhss> still doesnt work
[08:11] <maxwell> how do I open an SH file
[08:11] <maxwell> yeah
[08:11] <tbw> pashaw, : I even added a -u 55 to acpid so that 55% usage was the kicking point
[08:11] <shining_> mmhss: lol
[08:11] <maxwell> I'm a noob
[08:11] <damnsmall537> i can't get to eth0 with ubuntu 5.04
[08:11] <fizzle> yaaar, my burner is supposed to burn at 32x but i can only burn at 4x for some reason :(
[08:11] <yaaar> fizzle: hehe.....    -dao
[08:11] <shining_> mmhss: cache cleared?
[08:11] <mmhss> yes
[08:11] <mmhss> :|
[08:11] <damnsmall537> can't connect network in ubuntu
[08:11] <maxwell> but how do I open an SH file
[08:12] <yaaar> fizzle: what happens when you change the speed param
[08:12] <mmhss> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) PHP/4.4.0-3ubuntu1 Server at localhost Port 80
[08:12] <dooglus> Seveas: the command you suggested worked for me!
[08:12] <fizzle> yaaar, the cd fails to burn
[08:12] <mmhss> but still ff trying to dl the file ;|
[08:12] <shining_> mmhss: it should work now
[08:12] <maxwell> I downloaded a game called CUBE
[08:12] <dooglus> Seveas: I'll add a comment to the bug report saying so.
[08:12] <antubis> Help me! I`m using a new ubuntu installation but my mouse is not found. Its a serial mouse.
[08:12] <maxwell> and it won't open
[08:12] <pashaw> tbw,   sounds like a codescs issue  with the out of sync
[08:12] <yaaar> fizzle: man that sucks. does it give you an explanation
[08:12] <soultaker1974> hello to all
[08:12] <mmhss> ahh it does
[08:12] <fizzle> yaaar, i think it did but its been a while since i tried
[08:12] <maxwell> HELLO?
[08:12] <mmhss> i restarted ff and its workin now
[08:12] <shining_> mmhss: :)
[08:12] <mmhss> thx:P
[08:12] <tbw> pashaw: I've got every gstreamer codec I can seeinstalled
[08:13] <yaaar> fizzle: hmmm
[08:13] <maxwell> how do I open an SH file?
[08:13] <christos_>  Hi all! Just a quick one... I've downloaded Kubuntu Dapper (both 386+amd64) dvds on 26Dec, but although the md5sums are ok there is in both of them a problem and there can be no installation at all, Do You Know if there is a real problem in these distros? I've seen that some new Dappers appeared in 30Dec. any ideas?
[08:13] <mmhss> btw what should i do w/ /etc/apache (1)
[08:13] <mmhss> should i remove it?
[08:13] <maxwell> hello
[08:13] <maxwell> you all suck
[08:13] <yaaar> fizzle: have you read through the cdrecord man page to see if it has suggestions for speed problems?
[08:13] <fizzle> yaaar, im getting alot of errors under dmesg for my burner
[08:13] <shining_> mmhss: whats in there?
[08:13] <yaaar> fizzle: what do they say?
[08:13] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:13] <gdgardnerw> I am having trouble hotsyncing my palm pilot with ubuntu. Can anybody help me?
[08:13] <yaaar> fizzle: can you pastebin them?
[08:13] <mmhss> ls /etc/apache
[08:13] <mmhss> access.conf.dpkg-inst.queue  modules.conf.dpkg-inst.queue
[08:13] <mmhss> httpd.conf.dpkg-inst.queue   srm.conf.dpkg-inst.queue
[08:13] <fizzle> yaaar, havent looked at man pages yet one sec
[08:14] <fizzle> yaaar, umm thats too much to type out
[08:14] <Morrowyn> Kyral, the nofb option in grub didnt work out , screen stays blank/black on gdm loading X
[08:14] <shining_> mmhss: looks weird
[08:14] <fizzle> yaaar, but i can pm u 3-5 lines of the error if u ant
[08:14] <yaaar> fizzle: the problem machine not net-connected to the machine you are irc from?
[08:14] <shining_> mmhss: I wonder if there is a way to remove it with apt-get or dpkg
[08:14] <pashaw> tbw,   your question would be better  phrased    choppy out of sync play back playing DVD     i havent had enough trouble with that stuff to help you much
[08:14] <fizzle> the net is connected to it, its the computer im on now, i just dont know how to copy in xterm
[08:15] <tbw> pashaw: No, it wouldn't.
[08:15] <tbw> pashaw: Two seperate issues.
[08:15] <Seveas> mmhss, sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[08:15] <tbw> Pashaw: Choppy DVD playback + out of sync audio in XViD.
[08:15] <pashaw> tbw,    huh?  how you figure
[08:15] <pashaw> tbw,   ohh i misunderstoof what you wrote
[08:15] <tbw> nod
[08:15] <tbw> s'all good
[08:15] <yaaar> fizzle: ok
[08:16] <pashaw> tbw,   much better  questions than   anyone performance tips  :P
[08:16] <fizzle> yaaar, shall i pm u?
[08:16] <yaaar> k
[08:16] <pashaw> tbw,   i know id heard the evening guys(my time)   talk about the movie play issues alot
[08:17] <tbw> Hrm
[08:17] <mmhss> Seveas, no out put
[08:18] <psycose> hi
[08:18] <DaveRag> Hi everyone. I have a webserver set up on Ubuntu 5.10, none of my websites seem to be able to make Xmlhttprequest calls. Is there something extra I need to add in Apache?
[08:18] <mmhss> alos sudo apt-get remove --purge apache says pachage apache is not installed
[08:18] <odat> pashaw, have you done DMA stuff?
[08:19] <shining_> mmhss: use dpkg or synaptic
[08:19] <soultaker1974> hello to all can any one help to recover my /home files
[08:19] <amias> DaveRag, a handler of some kind , what are the calls going to ?
[08:19] <mmhss> nothing in there is selected as instaled when i do search for apache1
[08:19] <soultaker1974> i am at live CD 5.04
[08:20] <dooglus> how can i find out what package provides a given file?
[08:20] <tbw> i finally got this darn thing to suspend to ram and wakeup properly
[08:20] <DaveRag> amias: it's the livesearch function on the k2 theme for wordpress
[08:20] <psycose> look like some wifi card need kernel with 4K stack, how to know more about this for defaults Breezy kernel (i386-i686) any tips ? thanks
[08:21] <shining_> psycose: are you sure?
[08:21] <antubis> Why I cant write my xorg.conf file? It says permition denied
[08:22] <soultaker1974> can anyone know how to recover files using the live CD ?
[08:22] <tbw> soultaker1974, : What do you mean recover?
[08:22] <nickrud> dooglus, if it's on your machine, dpkg -S /path/to/file, otherwise packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file
[08:22] <shining_> psycose: you can do 'grep 4KSTACK /boot/config-$kerver' to see the current setting. I think 4k is disabled in all ubuntu kernels
[08:22] <tbw> soultaker1974, : There's a live cd out there with a big bunch of of utilities on it... for recovery
[08:22] <psycose> shining_, well i try to help someone with a inventel wifi usb dongle  UR054G(R1) and the 4KStack issue may be why it's not working ...
[08:23] <shining_> I know some drivers have problem with 4k, but the other way around..
[08:23] <soultaker1974> i have install ubuntu 5.10 on a Hard drive but i dont know what happend the graphic mode wont work
[08:23] <amias> DaveRag, so is the handler failing
[08:23] <shining_> psycose: so it isn't the problem
[08:23] <stjepan> Seveas: how did you edited xorg.conf? What have you changed?
[08:23] <dooglus> nickrud: thanks.  i would usually use apt-file, but that doesn't work on dapper
[08:23] <Pygi> stjepan: what seems to be the issues
[08:24] <shining_> psycose: does he have 4k enabled or disabled?
[08:24] <nickrud> I guess the db needs updating then. Breezy was that way for a while as well.
[08:24] <stjepan> Pygi: I can't get 3D acceleration with my ATI Radeon 9660
[08:24] <Pygi> huh
[08:24] <soultaker1974> were i can dowload tha Lice recovery cd ?
[08:24] <shining_> :p
[08:24] <Pygi> ubotu tell stjepan about ATI
[08:24] <psycose> shining_, interesting ... well he has a default breezy kernel ... i must see with is config file ...
[08:24] <soultaker1974> were i can dowload tha Live recovery cd ?
[08:24] <Pygi> stjepan: that's easy :P
[08:24] <Pygi> stjepan: ubotu just told you how
[08:26] <stjepan> who's ubotu? :)
[08:26] <Pygi> !ubotu
[08:26] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:26] <psycose> shining_, CONFIG_4KSTACKS is not set, any tips ?
[08:27] <shining_> psycose: no, I just don't think it's the issue
[08:27] <gcleric> no more regatu mr. ubotu... =)
[08:27] <Pygi> !patience
[08:27] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[08:27] <Pygi> :)
[08:27] <siglappy> lol
[08:27] <stjepan> !help
[08:28] <Pygi> stjepan: do not abuse bot
[08:28] <psycose> shining_, i thought that because i read a gentoo guy activate it with ndiswrapper ... and it work's for him ;-) ...
[08:28] <stjepan> Pygi: I must recompile kernel :)
[08:28] <stjepan> :(
[08:28] <Pygi> stjepan: why is that?
[08:29] <Pygi> psycose: what seems to be an issue?
[08:29] <shining_> stjepan: default kernel should work
[08:29] <soultaker1974> thanks
[08:29] <soultaker1974> foun the cd
[08:30] <gnomefreak> stjepan, you said you need to recompile kernel to get ati working?????? tell me im lost please
[08:30] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: Ping
[08:30] <yaaar> so i've got the strangest problem with detecting dvds. when i put a factory movie dvd in the drive, what happens depends on what was in the drive last.
[08:31] <gnomefreak> Pygi, not really here just throwing my 2cents in :))
[08:31] <shining_> gnomefreak: it's possible if he was using a custom kernel
[08:31] <Pygi> gnomefreak: then come back here :P
[08:31] <Pygi> shining: he wasn't using custom kernel, I am sure of it :P
[08:31] <shining_> :)
[08:31] <gnomefreak> true
[08:31] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i cant this is too much fun
[08:31] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh :)
[08:31] <yaaar> if the last disc inserted was a (at least partially full) data cd, it works right...totem comes up and plays it. if the last disc was a blank cd, it brings up the dialog for burning a cd.
[08:32] <stjepan> gnomefreak: yeah, because of fglrx-sources
[08:32] <psycose> Pygi using ndiswrapper with inventel wifi usb dongle  UR054G(R1) on fresh Breezy i386-i686 don't work for him (driver present, hardware not present) i thought that may be the problem was the fact 4KSTACKS was not set on his kernel ...
[08:32] <Pygi> stjepan: please don't say stupid things :P
[08:32] <shining_> lol
[08:32] <yaaar> in the latter case, if you try to dismiss that window and open totem and play it it fails
[08:33] <Pygi> psycose: huh, modular kernel design? modprobe?
[08:33] <shining_> gnomefreak: still trying?
[08:33] <yaaar> the weird part is that it fails saying it couldn't find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab. but it's right there....
[08:33] <Pygi> yaaar: huh
[08:33] <yaaar> also, if you boot the machine with a dvd in the drive the same thing happens.
[08:33] <gnomefreak> !ati
[08:33] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:33] <gnomefreak> that doesnt help?
[08:34] <kenneth> hi.i have the ubuntu livecd, i want to use it to instal on my laptop now that i am happy with it.
[08:34] <yaaar> Pygi: ubuntu has an extremely weird pattern of recognizing and not recognizing video dvd's in my system
[08:34] <tbw> video ipod, any chance?
[08:34] <Pygi> kenneth: u cant install from live cd :P
[08:34] <kenneth> can i do this or do i have to download the iso again
[08:34] <gnomefreak> kenneth, you cant
[08:34] <psycose> Pygi sorry i don't get you
[08:34] <Pygi> psycose: huh, k
[08:34] <gnomefreak> kenneth, download iso for install
[08:34] <Pygi> yaaar: heh :/
[08:35] <LiGhTeR> hi all =) i have a huge probel
[08:35] <LiGhTeR> problem*
[08:35] <kenneth> opps.thanks anyway
[08:35] <LiGhTeR> with installing java :/:/
[08:35] <mikearthur> hey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?
[08:35] <gnomefreak> LiGhTeR, is it a secret?
[08:35] <LiGhTeR> can someone help me ?
[08:35] <Pygi> Lighter:
[08:35] <Pygi> !java
[08:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:35] <Pygi> !javadebs
[08:35] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[08:35] <LiGhTeR> no :P i did hit enter by accident :P
[08:35] <fizzle> !cdrecord
[08:35] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, fizzle
[08:35] <fizzle> ubotu, tell fizzle how to burn cds
[08:35] <shining_> mikearthur: just configure your kernel correctly
[08:35] <yaaar> Pygi: if i boot the system with a dvd in the drive, it shows up on the desktop as "dvdrom" instead of the usual volume label. and opening it gives you an empty directory. opening totem gives you an error about not being able to find /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab, even though the line is plain as day. but if you take the dvd out and put a data cd in, and then swap them back, it works fine.
[08:36] <fizzle> grrrr
[08:36] <maruchan> i have question, is there a program that i can use to crop a video file?
[08:36] <fizzle> yaaar, im back -.-
[08:36] <yaaar> fizzle: story?
[08:36] <Sturgeon> ubotu, tell me how to make money
[08:36] <Pygi> yaaar: mind to open ssh so I can see?
[08:36] <fizzle> yaaar, i installed cdrecord and i get alot of errors
[08:36] <Sturgeon> :(
[08:36] <gnomefreak> !make
[08:36] <ubotu> gnomefreak: What?
[08:36] <{alejandro}> ok, so the anger begins
[08:36] <gnomefreak> nm ubotu
[08:36] <yaaar> Pygi: I'd rather not...
[08:36] <{alejandro}> I am having serious ass troubles with alsa
[08:36] <Pygi> yaaar: ah,k
[08:37] <fizzle> yaaar, cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open /dev/pg*. Cannot open scsi driver
[08:37] <{alejandro}> when I use alsa with xmms I get sound for one second and then it dies
[08:37] <yaaar> Pygi: it's kind of a hassle the way this network is setup
[08:37] <{alejandro}> I am using onboard sound
[08:37] <fizzle> yaaar, thats the main error, i get thst when i run cdrecord -scanbus
[08:37] <gnomefreak> {alejandro}, is it alsa or is it sound card?
[08:37] <yaaar> Pygi: my gentoo server is the router, and the current dest of ssh
[08:37] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak can't be certain
[08:38] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak I am using alsa though
[08:38] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak no esound or arts or nothin'
[08:38] <yaaar> fizzle: that's no big deal. i get that too.
[08:38] <gnomefreak> {alejandro}, what is the problem other than no sound
[08:38] <yaaar> fizzle: i think everyone using 2.6 gets that
[08:38] <fizzle> yaaar, yes but it doesnt show me any devices
[08:38] <yaaar> me neither
[08:38] <fizzle> mhm
[08:38] <fizzle> well what is the device name ?
[08:38] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak I do get sound! I get sound for a second when I play a file with aplay or xmms through alsa
[08:38] <fizzle> /dev/hdb?
[08:39] <yaaar> er....
[08:39] <yaaar> fizzle: good question
[08:39] <yaaar> fizzle: i really think it's just the device file
[08:39] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak but nothing more...
[08:39] <yaaar> fizzle: on slack were you useing 2.4
[08:39] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak want to see my devices etc?
[08:39] <fizzle> yaaar,  yes
[08:40] <yaaar> fizzle: yeah, that explains it....things have changed a lot there. ide-scsi is no longer used, and apparently scanbus doesn't work with the new setup
[08:40] <yaaar> fizzle: but try just specing the device file instead of a lun and see what happens
[08:40] <gnomefreak> {alejandro}, i have never seen that before. you get sound only for a sec while using xmms ext...
[08:40] <Manifold> Can Xchat minimize to the notification area?
[08:40] <ulas_> hi all
[08:41] <topyli> cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATAPI works
[08:41] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak the same with aplay
[08:41] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak and beep
[08:41] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak alsa is the only sound server running
[08:41] <ulas_> i ve bought a new lcd. how do reconfigure x to take advantage of the second.
[08:41] <gnomefreak> {alejandro}, im not sure ther ei dont use any music or video stuff here :))
[08:42] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak it's ok, thanks
[08:42] <fizzle> grrrrrrrr
[08:42] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak I am hardly a newb but this has me stumped
[08:42] <fizzle> topyli, what should it ype to burn a cd?
[08:43] <topyli> fizzle: uhh... i usually type "man cdrecord", and then "/" and type "EXAMPLES" :)
[08:43] <topyli> fizzle: once i've found the device with scanbux
[08:43] <windmill_laptop> hello, my nice new laptop has card reader which reads sd cards bu i can't make it work....
[08:43] <topyli> bus even
[08:43] <ulas_> was it dpkg -pleasereconfigure xorg-server ?
[08:43] <Manifold> Can Xchat minimize to the notification area?
[08:44] <gnomefreak> -pleaseconfigure?
[08:44] <{alejandro}> cam anyone else help me with the sound problem
[08:44] <{alejandro}> there have got to be people who understand this madness
[08:44] <ulas_> Manifold: there should be a plugin for that..
[08:44] <HappyFool> fwiw, i found this link useful for cd burning: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm
[08:44] <Manifold> MM.
[08:44] <Manifold> Mm..
[08:45] <Syche> Manifold: xchat-systray or something in the repos
[08:45] <topyli> fizzle: what you want to know is the device. then use -dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc or whatever
[08:45] <ulas_> Manifold: xchat is gtk+ not very integrated with gnome i guess.
[08:45] <fizzle> topyli, ic ty
[08:45] <Manifold> Aha.
[08:45] <Manifold> O.
[08:45] <Manifold> OK.
[08:46] <knoppix> Hello I was hoping to get a little information about ubuntu.
[08:46] <windmill_laptop> lspci tells me : CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1 SmartCardBus MultiMediaBay Controller
[08:46] <ulas_> gnomefreak: can it be -configureoriwillbreakyourlegs ?
[08:46] <knoppix> Are ya'll using it?
[08:46] <windmill_laptop> but nothing happen when I put in my SD card
[08:46] <knoppix> I was wondering how easy it is to use.
[08:46] <mwe> knoppix: well this is the ubuntu support channel, so I guess so
[08:46] <gnomefreak> lol ulas_
[08:46] <knoppix> I installed mandrake linux and I'm having a lot of trouble with it.
[08:47] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu
[08:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[08:47] <knoppix> I just recently discovered the name UBUNTU
[08:47] <fizzle> gr
[08:47] <mwe> knoppix: harder than windoze, as easy or easier than any other easy linux distro
[08:47] <knoppix> As of yesterday.
[08:47] <knoppix> Is it easier than Mandrake Linux?
[08:47] <Manifold> True, mwe
[08:47] <Kyral> You mean Mandriva?
[08:47] <{alejandro}> you will probably want to be able to use cli for some stuff
[08:47] <knoppix> I have both disks.
[08:47] <gnomefreak> i didnt find mandriva any easier than any other distro
[08:48] <mwe> knoppix: same category I would say
[08:48] <knoppix> My system is messed up I just put in knoppix to get my system up at all.
[08:48] <gnomefreak> well with the ussual exceptions
[08:48] <knoppix> I have it on a cd.
[08:48] <fizzle> wtf
[08:48] <ulas_> knoppix: it is easier than every possible distro
[08:48] <{alejandro}> knoppix there is kubuntu if you like kde
[08:48] <fizzle> No disk / Wrong disk!
[08:48] <trae> gnomefreak, heh, you still at it huh?
[08:48] <HymnToLife> gnomefreak > same here
[08:48] <topyli> knoppix: i used to use mandrake for years. yes, ubuntu (and even debian these days) is easier. then again, i don't know what mandriva is like these days
[08:48] <windmill_laptop> so any one have a clue about the O2 Micro, Inc. OZ711M1?
[08:48] <trae> :)
[08:48] <vilko> hi al
[08:48] <knoppix> I like kde.
[08:49] <vilko> i need some help
[08:49] <ubuntu__> nice weather eh
[08:49] <trae> <- occy
[08:49] <vilko> how do i install anything on this stuff
[08:49] <knoppix> I'm ready to download a new operating system.
[08:49] <ulas_> gnomefreak: ok my last bet is -configureoriwillinstallanrpmbaseddistro
[08:49] <gnomefreak> !kubuntu
[08:49] <ubotu> hmm... kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[08:49] <vilko> like amsn ?
[08:49] <HymnToLife> does anyone kno why I can't enable Connection Sharing in firestarter ?
[08:49] <mwe> knoppix: in that case you want kubuntu, kubuntu.org
[08:49] <{alejandro}> knoppix yu might want to download kubuntu isntead of ubuntu if you want to use kde for a desktop instead of gnome
[08:49] <{alejandro}> knoppix or if you dig gnome go for ubuntu
[08:49] <HymnToLife> dhcp3-server is installed but I can't activate it in FS
[08:49] <mwe> knoppix: it's the same base system but just has kde installed as the default instead of gnome
[08:49] <tbw> Can I add kde to a already installed ubuntu?
[08:49] <{alejandro}> tbw yes
[08:49] <mwe> tbw: sure
[08:50] <tbw> I wonder how much it's gonna break everything
[08:50] <tbw> ;)
[08:50] <mwe> tbw: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <{alejandro}> tbw sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[08:50] <{alejandro}> err
[08:50] <topyli> tbw: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <{alejandro}> woops
[08:50] <{alejandro}> it was kubuntu
[08:50] <{alejandro}> I am in debian mode today, sorry
[08:50] <gnomefreak> <<< xubuntu :))
[08:50] <ulas_> tbw: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -removeafter2days
[08:50] <{alejandro}> gnomefreak I concur
[08:50] <vilko> can anyone help me pweez
[08:50] <topyli> heh
[08:50] <vilko> im totally n00b to this linux even
[08:50] <tbw> How up to date are the packages?
[08:51] <ulas_> tbw: which you will do eventually
[08:51] <{alejandro}> vilko what's up
[08:51] <mwe> tbw: or you can get just the base, kdebase. then install any additional kde programs you need yourself
[08:51] <topyli> vilko: you want to install amsn?
[08:51] <tbw> ulas_: you think ?
[08:51] <dooglus> my laptop's ethernet port is broken.  it works fine apart from the little 'clip' thing that keeps the wire in.  so if I move, the cable falls out.  any suggestions for how to keep it in?
[08:51] <vilko> yeah
[08:51] <gnomefreak> tbw, for what os?
[08:51] <vilko> ubuntu
[08:51] <yaaar> hey guys.....the description of what's going on with my dvd detection was a bit longwinded, so could you please take a look here: http://pastebin.com/487542
[08:51] <knoppix> I'm pretty much a newbie to linux also.
[08:51] <tbw> gnomefreak, : Hrm?
[08:51] <Seveas> dooglus, duct tape, glue?
[08:51] <ulas_> tbw: no just joking. me just cant stand kde. but thats a matter of taste.
[08:51] <gnomefreak> dooglus, tape?
[08:51] <topyli> vilko: and, if you search for it in the package manager, it's not there?
[08:51] <knoppix> I tried to do my updates for mandrake linux it totally messed up my system.
[08:51] <mwe> tbw: it's the latest kde, if you use the unofficial mirror listed at kubuntu.org
[08:51] <knoppix> I try to do rpms and can't figure out how to do them right.
[08:51] <vilko> hmz i just installed the os like 5 mins ago
[08:52] <knoppix> Maybe I'm just going through a learning process.
[08:52] <dooglus> Seveas: the problem is, it's a long wire that goes down an air-vent duct a few floors to an office below.  if I use glue, I won't be able to take the laptop out of the flat ever agaib
[08:52] <tbw> I wonder which is faster...
[08:52] <tbw> kde or gnome
[08:52] <vilko> tply whre is that ?
[08:52] <dooglus> again
[08:52] <{alejandro}> tbw xfce4
[08:52] <ulas_> ok someone make me remember X reconfigfure arg for dpkg
[08:52] <knoppix> But then tried to update to linux. Now my operating system is not working at all.
[08:52] <{alejandro}> tbw that's faster
[08:52] <topyli> vilko: you'll have to add some more software repositories, you just have the defaults
[08:52] <topyli> !repos
[08:52] <tbw> blackbox is even faster!
[08:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:52] <Kyral> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:52] <ulas_> tbw: ferrari is faster
[08:52] <gnomefreak> knoppix,  you need to use alien to do rpms but see alien here
[08:52] <{alejandro}> tbw heck yeah
[08:52] <dooglus> I was thinking that marmite would be a good solution.  any thoughts?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> !alien
[08:52] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[08:52] <topyli> vilko: look at ubotu's note above
[08:52] <ulas_> tbw: second is gnome
[08:52] <topyli> vilko: about universe and multiverse
[08:52] <tbw> ulas_: oh yea?
[08:53] <CarlFK> how do I set what /dev the eject command defaults to?
[08:53] <knoppix> Somehow it ate all my glibc files.
[08:53] <vilko> damn im totally cluless
[08:53] <Octane> i have a really dumb question... i am running pureftp and everytime someone uploads it writes as ftpuser and my normal user doesnt have w access to those files... how can i give it to him?
[08:53] <Manifold> Running Gnome-xchat now
[08:53] <tbw> I'm hoping this 7200rpm drive i ordered will speed things up
[08:53] <tbw> 8MB cache
[08:53] <Kyral> 7200RPM is the standard I thought
[08:53] <yaaar> dooglus: if you want something that's less of a pain than tape, you could consider taking some cat5 (a couple inches) with an rj45 plug on one end and an rj45 jack on the other, then epoxy the plug end into the laptop, and you have a new jack end....
[08:53] <tbw> Not for my laptop
[08:53] <vilko> topyli can we pm ?
[08:53] <tbw> my laptop came with 4200
[08:53] <{alejandro}> hey, once again, does anyone have expertise in matters pertaining to ALSA?
[08:53] <{alejandro}> I would appreciate their help
[08:53] <ulas_> tbw: install ubuntu and try to stick with gnome for a few days. if you are not happy you can always switch to kde.
[08:54] <topyli> vilko: we could, but you would miss the channel's support
[08:54] <vilko> ow ok
[08:54] <dave_> hello i am having difficulty with a shard lib that is not installed libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 does this mean anything to anyone?
[08:54] <tbw> ulas_: I'm using gnome right now
[08:54] <yaaar> {alejandro}: go ahead and ask....only one way to find out
[08:54] <topyli> vilko: don't trust one idiot when you have many! =)
[08:54] <dooglus> yaaar: that's a good idea.  thanks.
[08:54] <ulas_> tbw: ahh happy?
[08:54] <knoppix> I'm at the point I have to repartition and totally reinstall and I might as well change operating systems if there is a better one than Mandrake Linux or Mandriva out there.
[08:54] <HymnToLife> dave_ > install the libstdc++ package...
[08:54] <tbw> ulas_: hell I spent all weekend fscking with acpi settings to get the damn thing to sleep properly
[08:54] <tbw> ulas_: It's okay..
[08:54] <vilko> well actually i just want to install mplayer for so i can view divx and xvid files and msn so my father can chat over webcam !
[08:54] <ulas_> tbw: wellcome to the world of DIY.
[08:54] <{alejandro}> yaaar when I play sound through alsa (xmmms/beep with alsa driver, aplay), I get one second of sound before it stops
[08:55] <vilko> hehehe
[08:55] <Prozzy> Hmm how do i make my user a "superuser"? just installed ubuntu today and was trying to install java, when i was doing the dpkg  -i it says i need superuser
[08:55] <knoppix> I read that ubuntu has debian and is easier than rpms.
[08:55] <tbw> ulas_: I used linux full time from 1995-2001
[08:55] <ulas_> tbw: it is better than plug and pray i guess
[08:55] <tbw> ulas_: this is CAKE ;)
[08:55] <HymnToLife> knoppix > it is
[08:55] <mwe> Prozzy: learn to use sudo
[08:55] <{alejandro}> knoppix ubuntu uses apt, which is what debian uses
[08:55] <dave_> deing told it cant be found
[08:55] <yaaar> {alejandro}: what aplay command are you using?
[08:55] <vilko> amsn_0.95-ubuntu.powerpc.deb i dloaded that
[08:55] <mwe> !tell Prozzy about root
[08:55] <topyli> vilko: you can get that stuff from the universe and multiverse repositories
[08:55] <vilko> is that like zipped
[08:55] <ulas_> tbw: ohhh yea. well it really is. i remember old days.
[08:55] <HymnToLife> !tell Prozzy about sudo
[08:55] <mwe> !tell Prozzy about sudo
[08:55] <{alejandro}> yaaar, hold on lemme show you my devices
[08:55] <gnomefreak> doesnt knoppix  use apt also
[08:56] <azion> hey,can anyone tell me the comand to check the version of the kernel
[08:56] <vilko> im on swedish system
[08:56] <mwe> Prozzy: read what ubotu /msg'ed you
[08:56] <Prozzy> hehe i was just reading the starter guide but okay :)
[08:56] <vilko> so its al inswedish
[08:56] <topyli> vilko: do you know about debian-like repositories that ubuntu uses? and how they're configured?
[08:56] <Manifold> Is anyone running GNOME-Xchat here?
[08:56] <knoppix> ty for all your help I guess I better look for a download site now.
[08:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: is knoppix as good as Ubuntu?
[08:56] <comune> hello
[08:56] <vilko> i dont know what that is even
[08:56] <HappyFool> azion: uname -r
[08:56] <mwe> lightbright: knoppix is a live cd
[08:56] <yaaar> hey everybody, could you take a look here: http://pastebin.com/487542     ?? that's the weirdest thing i've seen lately
[08:56] <gnomefreak> ive never used it but from my understanding knoppix is live cd for debian
[08:56] <knoppix> This site is fast.
[08:56] <topyli> Manifold: not likely. xchat-gnome is dead
[08:56] <azion> thanks
[08:56] <dooglus> Seveas: it turns out that your suggestion of uninstalling slocate and reinstalling it DOESN'T fix the problem...
[08:57] <vilko> no i dont know what it used
[08:57] <vilko> and i dont know how they are configed
[08:57] <lightbright> mwe: cant you install knpoix to hard drive?
[08:57] <Seveas> dooglus, too bad, it was just a guess
[08:57] <dooglus> Seveas: I misread, and just uninstalled it.  that put the old "find-utils" version of locate back in place, which works.
[08:57] <comune> I've installed ubuntu with a creative webcam, using camorama I can see the image, but is black & white and broken horizontally and replied 1 time..how I can tune the video device?
[08:57] <dooglus> Seveas: reinstalling slocate brings the problem back
[08:57] <knoppix> A friend of mine gave me this knoppix cd.
[08:57] <mwe> lightbright: it's not supported afaik
[08:57] <topyli> vilko: so you downloaded a ppc package. do you have a mac?
[08:57] <knoppix> I just used to rescue my system and get online.
[08:57] <knoppix> So I like that about it.
[08:57] <lightbright> mwe: you are not sure?
[08:57] <knoppix> It's a complete operating system on a cd.
[08:57] <vilko> no man im on a pc
[08:57] <knoppix> Great rescue.
[08:57] <vilko> macs sux
[08:57] <mwe> lightbright: but I guess you can if your determined enough
[08:57] <vilko> lol
[08:58] <gnomefreak> knoppix, what distro do you normally use?
[08:58] <topyli> vilko: so, throw that file away :)
[08:58] <{alejandro}> ok yaaar http://pastebin.com/487523 is an lspci
[08:58] <vilko> ow ok
[08:58] <dave_> HymnToLife cant find it in repositories
[08:58] <gnomefreak> mwe, i think install knoppix is like installing ubuntu from livecd
[08:58] <{alejandro}> yaar and http://pastebin.com/487555 is /proc/asound/pcm
[08:58] <knoppix> About 3 weeks I've been playing with Mandrake linux 10.1 and Mandriva 2006.
[08:58] <knoppix> I'm not impressed with Mandriva 2006 it doesn't have the drivers.
[08:58] <gnomefreak> knoppix, if you ask me youll enjoy ubuntu more
[08:58] <topyli> vilko: do this: open a terminal. in the menu, apps -> accessories -> terminal
[08:59] <knoppix> I was using free mandriva before that.
[08:59] <knoppix> I've been a windows user for a long time.
[08:59] <grayman> mandriva and co are not that good
[08:59] <stjepan> Seveas: what's your graphics card?
[08:59] <tbw> I shall return all sorts of kubuntu'd
[08:59] <albinoloverats> would somebody be able to help me with a sound problem?
[08:59] <knoppix> Mandriva wants money.
[08:59] <Jeff12088> Just installed KDE... much much much better
[08:59] <HymnToLife> dave_ > do you have universe/multiverse ?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> mandriva is crap i used it for like 2 months and every update would overwrite my grub file and only boot to mandriva
[08:59] <stjepan> Seveas: I've got ATI Radeon 9660
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> you cant say Mandrake ect doesnt have drivers
[08:59] <knoppix> ty gnome freak.
[08:59] <vilko> ok im in terminal
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> every linux uses the the same kernel
[08:59] <lsuactiafner> and drivers depends on the kernel
[09:00] <vilko> what now =?
[09:00] <topyli> vilko: do this: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <dave_> HymnToLife I think so
[09:00] <lsuactiafner> just compile the correct kernel or take a kernel from another distribution known to work
[09:00] <knoppix> Does kubutu have the drivers?
[09:00] <grayman> you install drivers
[09:00] <topyli> vilko: that's the file where your machine looks for software sources. you don't surf the web like windows users :)
[09:00] <mwe> gnomefreak: , lightbright according to http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/General_FAQ it seems knoppix is only available as a live cd/dvd
[09:00] <gnomefreak> lsuactiafner, the kernels are diffferent from distro to distro arnt they?
[09:00] <grayman> the kernel is the same for all distros
[09:00] <vilko> topyli its in swedish so i dont know what it looks like
[09:00] <gnomefreak> mwe,  i know
[09:00] <knoppix> I tyried to install just mandriva and it made my screen all jittery double images.
[09:00] <yaaar> {alejandro}: what aplay command are you using?
[09:00] <fizzle> does ubuntu kernel come with the Microsoft Joliet CDROM extensions support
[09:01] <mwe> gnomefreak: so what did you mean?
[09:01] <topyli> vilko: the sources.list file is in swedish?
[09:01] <yaaar> fizzle: yea
[09:01] <gnomefreak> mwe i said its like installing ubuntu from live cd
[09:01] <gnomefreak> you cant do it
[09:01] <fizzle> yaaar, is it turned on by default
[09:01] <Jeff12088> anyone have any idea what that kubuntu offtopic server is?
[09:01] <Jeff12088> chanel i mean
[09:01] <Seveas> stjepan, radeon mobility 9600
[09:01] <vilko> ok opend that
[09:01] <gnomefreak> #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:01] <lsuactiafner> gnomefreak : yes, but mostly the same, but i would compile my own kernel, or use a kernel that works before making a decision on a distribution
[09:01] <Jeff12088> ok thanks
[09:01] <HymnToLife> dave_ > strange, I can find it in synaptic
[09:01] <yaaar> fizzle: i sure think so.....that's nearly universal...
[09:01] <vilko> no it sources it in english
[09:01] <HymnToLife> libstdc++5 is even on the Ubuntu CD
[09:02] <True_Chaos> good god
[09:02] <fizzle> yaaar,  ok just checking
[09:02] <dave_> HymnToLife libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[09:02] <yaaar> i don't recal the module name, or the config name....but i'd think it was a safe bet
[09:02] <lsuactiafner> if i did i wouldnt be using ubuntu since the kernels suck on my hardware (asus a8n deluxe nforce 4 and gforce 6600)
[09:02] <topyli> vilko: ok, look at it. you have some lines beginning with ##'s and some without those hashes, right?
[09:02] <lightbright> how can I check my memory for any virus?
[09:02] <yaaar> fizzle: you still having problems getting it to burn?
[09:02] <fizzle> yaaar, of course,
[09:02] <HymnToLife> dave_ > the package you need to install is libstdc++6
[09:02] <True_Chaos> this might be part of the problem, after booting to a liveCD my machine can no longer detect a HDD attached... even the bios doesnt find it. :(
[09:02] <lsuactiafner> had to make my own kernel with hoary on a gentoo system to get things booting the first time
[09:02] <Apache_am> Hi
[09:02] <vilko> yeah
[09:02] <dave_> HymToLife I have it installed
[09:02] <knoppix> ty for all the help I'm going to try and find a download site for kbuntu.  Any links for kubuntu download site?
[09:03] <topyli> vilko: the # means that the line is just a comment and the software doesn't mind it. the lines actually read begin with "deb"
[09:03] <yaaar> fizzle: what did it tell you when you tried it with the device file?
[09:03] <lsuactiafner> lightbright : there aint any virii for linux yet
[09:03] <True_Chaos> knoppix: linuxiso.org?
[09:03] <stjepan> Seveas: I've got 9660. Should my card work?
[09:03] <HymnToLife> it should work then :/ I installed it and I have that file
[09:03] <fizzle> yaaar, i tried burning the cd and it said it couldnt find a blank cd in my drive
[09:03] <vilko> oo
[09:03] <yaaar> fizzle: have you tried to do it on any of the gui progs?
[09:03] <vilko> yeah 2 on the top
[09:03] <grayman> lightbright, you dont usually get viruses on linux, but you can get few of the commercial anti viruses
[09:03] <fizzle> its being gay but screw it
[09:03] <knoppix> ty True_Chaos.
[09:03] <lsuactiafner> lightbright : linux itself is basically immune
[09:03] <yaaar> fizzle: hm
[09:03] <fizzle> yaaar, nope
[09:03] <vilko> deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[09:03] <topyli> vilko: so, you want to find lines in that file that mention universe and multiverse, and remove the #'s from the beginning of those lines
[09:03] <HymnToLife> fizzle > une k3b
[09:03] <grayman> or you can monitor it manually if you're advanced enough
[09:03] <Apache_am> I change the name of my machine and now i cant use conf programs at gnome, what's happend ????
[09:03] <yaaar> fizzle: it might be a good excercise.
[09:03] <fizzle> HymnToLife, yeah im getting it now
[09:03] <Apache_am> how can I fix it
[09:03] <Apache_am> ?
[09:04] <yaaar> fizzle: oh, one other thing....did you edit that hdparm.conf prior to your reboot?
[09:04] <fizzle> yes
[09:04] <yaaar> k just making sure
[09:04] <grayman> and yeah. no free AV for linux
[09:04] <lightbright> lsuactiafner: there ARE some virus on linux
[09:04] <Kindred> change the name back? :P
[09:04] <lightbright> grayman:  there ARE some virus on linux
[09:04] <fizzle> yaaar, what im trying to achieve is installing a game. but i cant do this because of others problems and all i have is my backup isos, so im trying to burn them
[09:04] <fizzle> other* rather
[09:04] <HappyFool> rick moen has a list of linux viruses on his page (on linuxmafia.org, i think)
[09:05] <grayman> lightbright, yes. i didnt say that there arent, but they're rare and pathetic in most cases
[09:05] <vilko> well i should do a backup of this fle too right ?
[09:05] <yaaar> fizzle: so, it works fine at 4x right?
[09:05] <stjepan> Seveas: wtf? the opensource driver my broke my hardware :(
[09:05] <fizzle> yaaar, right now its not working at all
[09:05] <topyli> vilko: it's always a good idea :)
[09:05] <vilko> :D
[09:05] <fizzle> it usually works fine at 4x in slackware
[09:05] <fizzle> but i havent gotten it to work in ubuntu yet
[09:05] <yaaar> fizzle: did you swap to a new blank disc, just in case it somehow got initialized a while back or something?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> HappyFool, i dont see viruses
[09:06] <HymnToLife> fizzle > which app are you using ?
[09:06] <Apache_am> i cant change the name back
[09:06] <Seveas> stjepan, that'd be weird
[09:06] <fizzle> HymnToLife, i was using command-line but im trying k3b now
[09:06] <Apache_am> when i use suo it return this message - sudo: unable to lookup 09 via gethostbyname()
[09:06] <HymnToLife> yeah, command line didn't work for me either
[09:06] <Seveas> stjepan, btw I'm kinda busy, if you want to be sure I reply, PM me
[09:06] <fizzle> HymnToLife, ic
[09:06] <fizzle> k well im gonna try k3b and see what happens
[09:07] <HappyFool> gnomefreak: linuxmafia.com, sorry. http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/index.php?page=virus
[09:07] <vilko> ok did that
[09:07] <fizzle> hopefully it works so i can go smoke a joint and play some soldier of fortune lol
[09:07] <adrian_> how instal kde desktop for ubuntu 10.2?
[09:07] <vilko> saved
[09:07] <Prozzy> hmmm another question from me.. now i did sudo on the dpkg while installing java and worked like a charm... though it doesnt seem to be enabled in firefox? i followed the guide in the starter guide.. what more to do ? :P
[09:07] <dave_> HynmTo Life it there and i still get the error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:07] <topyli> vilko: exit the editor
[09:07] <gnomefreak> ty happy
[09:07] <vilko> did
[09:07] <HymnToLife> adrian_ > sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <yaaar> anybody got any idea why ubuntu would fail to recognize dvd's if (and only if) they were in the drive on boot or the disc inserted just prior was a blank?
[09:07] <HappyFool> gnomefreak: i think he's anti virus-checkers (i think he says they solve the wrong problem)
[09:07] <Snurf> Does anyone know how to get to the screen with Windows XP to boot in Normal Mode, Safe Mode, MSDOS Prompt.. etc.
[09:07] <mwe> Apache_am: maybe your /etc/hosts is broken?
[09:08] <lightbright> grayman: whats a good virus checker?
[09:08] <HymnToLife> and if you have Ubuntu 10.2, I wan the CDs NOW :p
[09:08] <yaaar> more on that here: http://pastebin.com/487542
[09:08] <fizzle> Snurf, F8
[09:08] <adrian_> in terminal run this comand?
[09:08] <topyli> vilko: now, do "sudo apt-get update" and pray there's no error :)
[09:08] <Snurf> Ty
[09:08] <fizzle> Snurf, hold f8 when windows starts
[09:08] <fizzle> damn winbloze users
[09:08] <grayman> lightbright, dunno. i dont use AV on linux. i consider it to be useless there
[09:08] <mwe> Apache_am: btw does it run the command even though it complains about not being able to look up your hostname?
[09:08] <grayman> but i think that kaspersky had a linux version
[09:08] <TengkSA> can someone here please help me
[09:09] <topyli> !someone
[09:09] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:09] <fizzle> man my pinky is jammed -.-
[09:09] <mwe> !helpme
[09:09] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:09] <vilko> bash: sudu: command not found
[09:09] <lightbright> grayman: but how do you make sure you are clean so if sending stuff to MS window users?
[09:09] <fizzle> vilko, sudo*?
[09:09] <yaaar> vilko: that's sudo
[09:09] <topyli> vilko: try sudo :)
[09:09] <HymnToLife> vilko > sudO
[09:09] <mrtanooki> vilko: sudo LOL
[09:09] <grayman> lightbright, windows viruses dont work on linux
[09:09] <yaaar> hehe
[09:09] <vilko> lol
[09:09] <vilko> haahahaha
[09:09] <fizzle> vilko, ;)
[09:09] <yaaar> in surround sound
[09:09] <ompaul> !enter
[09:09] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:10] <adrian_> sudo apt -get run in terminal mode?
[09:10] <TengkSA> I have installed UBUNTU now and it loads straight in to UBUNTU and i cant access my harddrives with ubuntu that I could using windows, How do i set up a dual boot and be able to access files on my hard drives?
[09:10] <HymnToLife> grayman > but Linux viruses DO work on Linux :)
[09:10] <comune> there is a way to install dsc sources from synaptic?
[09:10] <vilko> dont see no error
[09:10] <vilko> just that it got many files
[09:10] <HymnToLife> adrian_ > yes
[09:10] <topyli> vilko: good
[09:10] <grayman> HymnToLife, as i said. they're mostly pathetic since its a bit difficult to write a good virus for linux
[09:10] <HymnToLife> or you can use Synaptic if you want to use the GUI
[09:10] <mwe> HymnToLife: can you name one widely spread linux virus?
[09:10] <vilko> ok and now what do i do next :D
[09:10] <topyli> vilko: now, go to system -> admin -> synaptic in the menu and search for mplayer
[09:10] <fizzle> btw do i want to run sudo k3b to burn a cd or just run it as a normal user?
[09:10] <vilko> k
[09:11] <TengkSA> Can anyone help me with what I had asked
[09:11] <mwe> fizzle: run it as user
[09:11] <HymnToLife> fizzle > normal user will do
[09:11] <fizzle> ok ty
[09:11] <yaaar> mwe; the slapper worm got around a bit
[09:11] <topyli> not a virus
[09:11] <topyli> and not for linux
[09:11] <vilko> hmz it dont find any
[09:11] <david_m_e> under System > Admin > Networking > General (i think) > host name, i blanked it out and rebooted; this caused an error message when Gnome desktop loaded, and, worse, now Networking won't load anymore so that I can re-enter the host name... anybody know a way to get that host name back where it belongs? and... where does it belong? (a conf file somewhere?) ... thanks
[09:11] <yaaar> topyli: only in the most hair-splitting of senses.
[09:11] <Some_Body> teng, you need to partition your hard drive
[09:12] <fizzle> its taking forever to load k3b -.-
[09:12] <mwe> yaaar: haven't heard of that. can't you coun't the number of known linux viruses like on two hands?
[09:12] <ompaul> TengkSA, open a terminal (applications - accessories - terminal) run this command >>sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst<<  alter the timeout to read 10 reboot and then choose windows
[09:12] <Some_Body> your able to do it during installation
[09:12] <adrian_> TengkSA grub is boot manager for linux and is self instaling when instal linux
[09:12] <yaaar> the only difference is that it's in its own file, rather than hidden in some other one.
[09:12] <Some_Body> *you're
[09:12] <topyli> vilko: hrm. i wonder where it is if it's not in universe or multiverse
[09:12] <adrian_> HymnToLife thank you
[09:12] <dave_> Still trying to get help with an errorerror while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. HymnToLife said to install libstdc++6 but I already have it and still get the error
[09:12] <topyli> anyone, where is mplayer?
[09:12] <yaaar> mwe; no there are more than that. but certainly the number is extremely small compared to the number for that other system.
[09:12] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, can anyone tell me if there is one program out there for ubuntu that can act like a dj program (like Virtual DJ for instance) or if not at least can anyone walk me through adding some crossfading or something while playing mp3s?
[09:12] <ompaul> yaaar, no, only in exacting terms, after all without limits we could all be running some other operating system
[09:13] <grayman> there was a java virus once
[09:13] <grayman> so i guess it was crossplatform
[09:13] <TengkSA> it is asking me for a password
[09:13] <HymnToLife> dave_ > maybe googling the file could help
[09:13] <vilko> cuzz i tryed playin a xvid movie ive got on cd
[09:13] <vilko> and it said it could not find codecs
[09:13] <fizzle> k3b just froze GR!
[09:13] <topyli> vilko: it's in multiverse for me. hit the refresh button in synaptic
[09:13] <HymnToLife> vilko > get vlc
[09:13] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, can anyone tell me if there is one program out there for ubuntu that can act like a dj program (like Virtual DJ for instance) or if not at least can anyone walk me through adding some crossfading or something while playing mp3s
[09:13] <topyli> vilko: you don't need mplayer for that, just some codecs
[09:13] <fizzle> im beginning to get really mad :(
[09:14] <dave_> Ce_Dreaku: theres a great player called wxMusik
[09:14] <vilko> ow ok
[09:14] <lightbright> fizzle: relax!  dont be so reactive to external forces to control your feelings
[09:14] <yaaar> ompaul: yeah, but the difference between a "worm" and a "virus
[09:14] <vilko> well is there like a great codec pac :D
[09:14] <yaaar> ompaul: don't have anything to do with that
[09:14] <mwe> yaaar: yeah. also the policy of not logging on as a superuser all the time makes it much harder to write malicious software that spreads system wide
[09:14] <vilko> with most codecs
[09:14] <topyli> vilko: yes there is :)
[09:14] <fizzle> lightbright, its hard not to ive been trying to burn a fuking cd for 4 hours now
[09:14] <TengkSA> okay i have changed it.. like a regular text file. now how do i save it?
[09:14] <topyli> !restricted
[09:14] <dave_> not quite DJ turntables, but you can que up songs and croddfade
[09:14] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:14] <vilko> tell me pweez :D
[09:14] <topyli> vilko ^
[09:14] <fangorious> anyone using bluetooth to transfer contacts from their phone to their PC (and/or the reverse)?
[09:14] <fizzle> or get my game to work but ubuntu hates me
[09:14] <topyli> vilko: look what ubotu said
[09:15] <vilko> ok
[09:15] <vilko> vlc
[09:15] <vilko> where do i get that
[09:15] <ompaul> yaaar,  well actually getting a virus to run on GNU/Linux is a lot harder than getting a worm, and even that is an issue
[09:15] <HymnToLife> vilko > sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:15] <vilko> ow
[09:15] <lightbright> fizzle: user error
[09:15] <rukk> Hey, quick question.. I'm using dapper drake, and when I upgraded to the latest version of wine (0.9.4) it broke a application I was using that worked perfectly in 0.9.3. Is there any way to "roll back" to the previous version of that package?
[09:15] <yaaar> ompaul: i don't think i agree with that? you have a source for thinking that it's easier to get worms to run than virii?
[09:16] <topyli> vilko: vlc is one possibility. or, you can install totem-xine and get the w32codecs package
[09:16] <vilko> E: Kunde inte erhlla lset /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resursen tillflligt otillgnglig)
[09:16] <vilko> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:16] <HymnToLife> topyli > totem-gstreamer works fine too
[09:16] <topyli> vilko: synaptic is locking it and you're trying to run apt-get in a terminal. use one or the other :)
[09:16] <Ce_Dreaku> Dave_ where can I find it?
[09:16] <fangorious> vilko: use sudo, or make sure you don't have synaptic or the update-manager running
[09:16] <ompaul> yaaar, I said on GNU/Linux, look at the impact of worms, vs the only virus I know which targeted RedHat
[09:17] <vilko> ow
[09:17] <mikearthur> hey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?hey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was use
[09:17] <dave_> Ce_Dreaku Hold on and I'll find you a How To
[09:17] <mikearthur> woops, double paste, sorrt :(
[09:17] <mikearthur> sorry
[09:17] <TengkSA> ompaul adrian_ how do i edit this terminal file and how do i save it
[09:17] <Ce_Dreaku> thanks dave_ please drop it in a private window
[09:17] <topyli> vilko: it's not as hard as it seems on the first day, really =)
[09:17] <vilko> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[09:17] <vilko> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[09:17] <vilko> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet vlc
[09:17] <fangorious> anyone here using bluetooth?
[09:18] <ompaul> TengkSA, I gave you those instructions I will now to it again
[09:18] <ompaul> TengkSA, open a terminal (applications - accessories - terminal)
[09:18] <yaaar> ompaul: that follows the trend elsewhere thought, and in my opinion is only due to the unnecessary hassle of packaging your code within someone else's. if you can exploit the vulnerability without having to hide yourself in something else, then it's pointless to hide. so more worms exist. that isn't to say that *any* worm that works couldn't also be packaged into a virus that works.
[09:18] <vilko> i know but this is like a whole new world
[09:18] <vilko> lol
[09:18] <TengkSA> ompaul I have accessed that and I can see everything
[09:18] <dave_> Ce_Dreaku: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90010&highlight=wxmusik
[09:18] <Jnx> I've mounted a disk but I can only access it as a root user. Does anyone have suggestions to how I can solve this?
[09:18] <TengkSA> and I typed the sado command ompaul I just dont know what to do next
[09:19] <ompaul> yaaar, if you want to continue this conversation take it to #ubuntu-offtopic this is a help  channel :)
[09:19] <yaaar> ompaul....i meant "that follows the trend elsewhere *though* ...elsewhere, like there are more worms in windows than virii
[09:19] <HymnToLife> vilko > you neet to enable universe/mutiverse
[09:19] <Ce_Dreaku> thank you very much Dave_
[09:19] <Apache_am> what does it mean (sudo: unable to lookup 09 via gethostbyname() ????????
[09:19] <Jeff12088> Anyone here tried dual booting xp and ubuntu?
[09:19] <HymnToLife> !repos
[09:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:19] <topyli> vilko: clearly, your universe and multiverse repositories are not really enabled
[09:19] <yaaar> ompaul: fair enough
[09:19] <vilko> awwww
[09:19] <ompaul> TengkSA, look at the number at default make it longer :)
[09:19] <vilko> i sux :(
[09:19] <topyli> =D
[09:19] <blue-frog> Apache_am, you fiddled with /etc/host and/or hostname
[09:19] <dave_> Ce_Dreaku: as I say its not quite a DJ mixing setup but I think its a neat little player
[09:19] <ompaul> TengkSA, that is higher then follow the menu and exit and then reboot
[09:20] <vilko> how did i get into that file again
[09:20] <vilko> the source
[09:20] <topyli> vilko: look at my sources.list: http://siltala.net/comp/sources.list
[09:20] <yaaar> can everybody please take just a minute and read this: http://pastebin.com/487542
[09:20] <tbw> Okay
[09:20] <yaaar> it's really, really weird
[09:20] <mwe> yaaar: wouldn't you agree that one reason that makes it much easier for viruses to spread system wide in windoze is the fact that by default everyone is logged on with administrator priviledges?
[09:20] <tbw> so everything in kubuntu is HUGE
[09:20] <navarone> Jeff12088, I am dual booting win2k and ubuntu if that helps
[09:20] <yaaar> mwe; yeah i think that's accurate.
[09:20] <Ce_Dreaku> Dave_ I just need crossfading actually not really dj
[09:20] <topyli> vilko: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list any time. just remember to run apt-get update after that
[09:20] <Jnx> ompaul, I've mounted an NTFS harddrive. It works, and I can access it when I log in as root. Is there a way I can access it with my regular user (non-root)?
[09:21] <yaaar> mwe; the debate ompaul and i were having was on a different, and really senselessly academic, topic.
[09:21] <TengkSA> ompaul follow the menu?
[09:21] <topyli> vilko: do not copy my sources.list as it is. it has some unstable, shaky stuff there
[09:21] <vilko> u hacker u
[09:21] <gonffen> jnx, in /ect/fstab set uid=user,gid=users
[09:21] <Jnx> gonffen, thanks alot :)
[09:21] <vilko> ok but do u got anything stable ?
[09:21] <gonffen> /dev/hda2               /mnt/C  ntfs    uid=gonffen,gid=users,ro        0 0
[09:21] <gonffen> that's an example
[09:21] <blue-frog> Jnx, /etc/fstab change defaults with user,umask=0222
[09:21] <ompaul> TengkSA, at the bottom of the screen how does it tell you to exit (that is following the menu :-))
[09:22] <TengkSA> okay sorry this is my first time using this.. so i did ctrl + x
[09:22] <Jnx> blue-frog, thanks alot :)
[09:22] <TengkSA> and saved it to its previous name
[09:22] <Jnx> gonffen, thanks alot :)
[09:22] <ompaul> Jnx, I know nothing of NTFS dont use that o/s
[09:22] <TengkSA> and now how do i access previous files that i used with windows ompaul
[09:22] <silent_scream> hi all
[09:22] <topyli> vilko: the lines marked BREEZY and BREEZY BACKPORTS should do for some time. the CYPHERFUNK repository is nice for getting the non-free w32codecs too
[09:22] <ompaul> TengkSA, what you asked was how to boot windows, if I understood your question, am I correct?
[09:22] <silent_scream> how can i download the kernel-source-2.6.12 ?
[09:22] <adrian_> sudo apt -get ...... not work
[09:23] <vilko> i forgott how i edited the source again
[09:23] <TengkSA> ompaul and then i asked how do i access files through ubuntu on my other hard drive
[09:23] <vilko> what do i type ?
[09:23] <ompaul> TengkSA, one thing at a time
[09:23] <topyli> vilko: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:23] <TengkSA> ompaul so do i reboot first
[09:23] <vilko> ow ok
[09:24] <blue-frog> adrian_, watch how you write it
[09:24] <vilko> can i just copy paste ur whole list ?
[09:24] <tbw> Silencer, : ftp.funet.fi ?
[09:24] <ompaul> TengkSA, first reboot and choose windows and you can get in there - this assumes that you did not blow away the windows installation - if you have not done so you can start that awful thing,  now for accessing those files from within Ubuntu I will now get the bot to send you a web page with instructions
[09:24] <ompaul> !tell TengkSA about ntfs
[09:24] <adrian_> a want instal KDE desktop for ubuntu genome is enoing
[09:24] <ompaul> Jnx, that link might help you
[09:25] <topyli> vilko: you can for now. let's add some comments to it later :)
[09:25] <vilko> ok
[09:25] <vilko> hope it dont make my system finish !
[09:25] <vilko> cuzz i dont know finish only perkele
[09:25] <vilko> :D
[09:25] <topyli> vilko: my system is still running :)
[09:25] <vilko> ok did that
[09:25] <vilko> so now i save right and exit ?
[09:26] <topyli> vilko: oh, it won't change your language :)
[09:26] <topyli> yes
[09:26] <vilko> ok did that
[09:26] <topyli> then sudo apt-get update
[09:26] <adrian_> ider it to be useless there
[09:26] <vilko> got damn now its doin many
[09:26] <vilko> got 2-3 errors tho
[09:26] <vilko> in the end
[09:27] <topyli> vilko: yeah, it's overkill. we''ll have to clean up the sources.list later
[09:27] <Ofe> Ok, I got a problem when updating from hoary to breezy. My monitor won't work at the login-screen. :| it works fine before it's supposed to go to login screen, then just turns itself off. My mate told me something that I should fix xconf 11 or something like that. I'm currently in using 5.04 live-cd.
[09:27] <vilko> ok
[09:27] <david_m_e> one more try... i deleted host name (System > Admin > Networking > General) and rebooted; this caused an error message when Gnome desktop loaded, and, worse, now Networking won't load anymore so that I can re-enter the host name... anybody know a way to get that host name back where it belongs? and... where does it belong? (a conf file somewhere?) ... thanks
[09:27] <silent_scream> how can i download the kernel-source-2.6.12 ?
[09:27] <topyli> vilko: now, do apt-cache search mplayer
[09:27] <Jnx> gonffen, am I suposed to fixx /etc/mtab to? Because in mtab: it says: /dev/hdb1 /mnt/C ntfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=***** 0 0
[09:27] <blue-frog> adrian_, sudo apt-get update      sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:27] <gonffen> Jnx, umount it then remount
[09:27] <gonffen> that should fix it
[09:27] <vilko> ok did that
[09:28] <blue-frog> adrian_, sudo apt-get update      sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <topyli> vilko: any results?
[09:28] <adrian_> music & movies not work to ubuntu?
[09:28] <mwe> is there an easy way to make irssi hilight all lines containing your own nick, not just when it starts with your own nick?
[09:28] <gonffen> after you change /etc/fstab that is
[09:28] <vilko> yeah many
[09:28] <blue-frog> adrian_, they do
[09:28] <gonffen> and just use mount /mount/point
[09:28] <adrian_> ai try but not work
[09:28] <vilko> mplayer-586 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[09:28] <vilko> i want that right ?
[09:28] <Jnx> gonffen,  thanks
[09:28] <topyli> vilko: there are packages like mplayer-686, mplayer-k6 and such. they are optimized for different processors. make a choice :)
[09:28] <gonffen> yup
[09:29] <blue-frog> adrian_, have you ever tried to read a dvd movie in windows without installing the proper dvd player first?
[09:29] <adrian_> okhow to instal that player?
[09:29] <vilko> ive got 2,4 intel celeron crap on this one
[09:29] <vilko> what would be ur reccomendation :D
[09:29] <topyli> vilko: you want mplayer-686
[09:29] <falke`> hey there
[09:29] <blue-frog> adrian_, the question mark on your taskbar will explain all if you take a little time to read the starter guide
[09:29] <vilko> ok and how do i get that ?
[09:29] <siglappy> silent_scream: apt-get install linux-tree-2.6.12
[09:29] <falke`> i need help please
[09:29] <topyli> vilko: and mplayer-fonts
[09:29] <grayman> actually mplayer gives me some trouble with dvd
[09:30] <grayman> but thats only me
[09:30] <navarone> falke ask away
[09:30] <falke`> i downloaded the 64 bit 5.10 ubuntu
[09:30] <adrian_> blue-frog I try watch a dvd movie but not work
[09:30] <topyli> vilko: if you're lucky you'll find the w32codecs package too
[09:30] <falke`> and the installation hangs on 6 % by "libc6"
[09:30] <vilko> yeah ok but how do i dload that and install it ?
[09:30] <vilko> mplayer-686 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed
[09:31] <grayman> you use synaptic in most cases
[09:31] <ompaul> falke`, validate the image
[09:31] <blue-frog> adrian_, follow starter guide it will work
[09:31] <grayman> what he said
[09:31] <falke`> ompaul, i dont understand what you mean by that, sry :)
[09:31] <falke`> and sry for my english
[09:32] <topyli> vilko: oh, the 686 is a dummy and you probably want the 586 package after all
[09:32] <erik__> hi
[09:32] <vilko> ahaaaa
[09:32] <adrian_> blue-frog do you used another version linux? mandriva for example?
[09:32] <blue-frog> adrian_, ubuntu 5.10
[09:32] <cello_rasp> hi.. i can't configure or make stuff on this new installation! what do I need?
[09:32] <ompaul> falke`, I am looking for the page with the clue you need
[09:32] <topyli> vilko: use synaptic or do "apt-get install mplayer-586 mplayer-mozilla mplayer-fonts w32codecs" and you're in business :)
[09:32] <adrian_> is to dificult for me
[09:33] <blue-frog> cello_rasp, build-essential and use sudo
[09:33] <navarone> cello install "build-essentials" package
[09:33] <cello_rasp> thx chaps
[09:33] <david_m_e> i haven't seeen Seveas say anything for quite some time, yet his name is on the list at right, preceeded by a green dot... where is Seveas?
[09:33] <navarone> although,personally, compiling still eludes me...<s>
[09:33] <topyli> david_m_e: talking bs on #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:33] <Seveas> david_m_e, here :)
[09:33] <topyli> :D
[09:33] <falke`> thanks ompaul
[09:34] <david_m_e> Sev! there u are...
[09:34] <Nappatonttu> Can I install Ubuntu 5.10 without erasing windows
[09:34] <Nappatonttu> I would like to use them both
[09:34] <Seveas> david_m_e, very busy with a few repository issues
[09:34] <david_m_e> Seveas... need to recopy my ?... just a minute...
[09:34] <Juhaz> Nappatonttu, if you know what you're doing, yes.
[09:34] <navarone> Nappatonttu, yes you can...
[09:34] <Nappatonttu> Well I'm not so sure what i am doing
[09:34] <david_m_e> i deleted host name (System > Admin > Networking > General) and rebooted; this caused an error message when Gnome desktop loaded, and, worse, now Networking won't load anymore so that I can re-enter the host name... anybody know a way to get that host name back where it belongs? and... where does it belong? (a conf file somewhere?) ... thanks
[09:34] <vilko> E: Kunde inte ppna lsfilen /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 tkomst nekas)
[09:34] <vilko> E: Kunde inte lsa listkatalogen
[09:34] <adrian_> Nappatonttu yes
[09:34] <Nappatonttu> I have never installed an operating system before
[09:35] <topyli> vilko: you have synaptic open there?
[09:35] <Seveas> vilko, what's tkomst nekas in english?
[09:35] <Nappatonttu> I loved the LIVE CD, but my parents want to keep windows
[09:35] <TengkSA> ompaul thanks for everything but the thing u sent me from ubotu the site cannot be resolved by terminal .. 404 error
[09:35] <vilko> uhm
[09:35] <david_m_e> if someone less busy the Seveas wants to answer, i would appreciate that
[09:35] <afief> How do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?
[09:35] <topyli> vilko: or perhaps you forgot to use sudo in front of the command. i didn't say
[09:35] <cello_rasp> Ubu > windows (except for the lack of the 3rd party software and hardware people only produce for windows :)
[09:35] <vilko> owww
[09:35] <ompaul> falke`, you got a message from the bot
[09:35] <vilko> lol thats it
[09:35] <Seveas> Nappatonttu, install a n XP-like theme and they won't notice the difference (except that their system is moer stable :))
[09:35] <navarone> Nappatonttu, there is a how to somewhere here...but best advice I can give to minimize grief is to install bootloader on floppy first...you can add to mbr later if you are comfortable. I still use floppy and have had no probs
[09:36] <blue-frog> david_m_e, reboot in recovery mode edit /etc/hosts make sure it is all right, edit /etc/hostname make sure the name you have in /etc/hosts matches (for example  my-computer-name)
[09:36] <mwe> vilko: prefix the command with LANGUAGE=C to get the errors en english
[09:36] <Nappatonttu> Well there is a problem. I dont have my Windows CD
[09:36] <Jnx> Cannot create link /etc/mtab~
[09:36] <Jnx> Perhaps there is a stale lock file?
[09:36] <Jnx>  <- What is my problem?
[09:36] <cello_rasp> Seveas: i understand Kde has a better approach to spoofing windows than gnome
[09:36] <afief> How do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?
[09:36] <Nappatonttu> I accidentaly broke it like 2 years ago
[09:36] <TengkSA> Are there any better MSN Type programs than this Gaim and where do i get it from
[09:36] <Apache_am> Troquei o nome da minha maquina e agora no funciona mais nenhum programa, alguem pode me ajudar ????
[09:36] <Chousuke> Nappatonttu: Why do they want to keep windows?
[09:36] <ompaul> TengkSA, that page comes up for me
[09:36] <david_m_e> blue_frog thanks very much
[09:36] <Jnx> gonffen,  Cannot create link /etc/mtab~Perhaps there is a stale lock file? <- What's wrong?
[09:36] <Nappatonttu> Acytually i think they would be ok with Ubuntu
[09:36] <vilko> alrityo
[09:36] <Seveas> cello_rasp, yeah, KDE is less stable ;))
[09:36] <mwe> Jnx: what are you trying to do?
[09:36] <blue-frog> Apache_am, try #ubuntu-br
[09:36] <Nappatonttu> But my sisters want to play Sims :D
[09:37] <rossi> Hey there, can anyone help me with my joypad problem? Everything works, except the d-pad
[09:37] <Jnx> mwe, mount -a
[09:37] <Nappatonttu> And sometimes I like to play something too
[09:37] <Chousuke> Nappatonttu: If they have no clue about computers, as long as your hardware works it'll be just the same
[09:37] <vilko> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[09:37] <vilko> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[09:37] <vilko> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet mplayer-mozilla
[09:37] <Jnx> mwe, I'm trying to mount all devices in fstab
[09:37] <vilko> not like im gonna view movies in mozilla
[09:37] <Nappatonttu> Chousuke: yeah, but games dont work on Ubuntu
[09:37] <mwe> Jnx: you have to use sudo mount -a
[09:37] <Apache_am> they dont answer ...
[09:37] <ompaul> TengkSA, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions    <-- that page works can you get to wiki.ubuntu.com?
[09:37] <Apache_am> can you help me ?
[09:37] <Seveas> vilko, try: LC_ALL=C apt-get install ....
[09:37] <Jnx> mwe, offcourse. I know that
[09:37] <afief> How do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?
[09:37] <afief> How do i convert an Xvid AVI to a DVD and burn it?
[09:37] <Jnx> mwe, that's not the problem.
[09:37] <Seveas> vilko, and enable multiverse
[09:37] <topyli> vilko: oh, it's mozilla-mplayer. but if you don't need it, leave it
[09:37] <Chousuke> Nappatonttu: What games do they play?
[09:38] <mwe> Jnx: I see
[09:38] <Nappatonttu> afief: i once had a program for that. It was something like DVD santa
[09:38] <navarone> Nappatonttu, going windowless depends on what you use windows for. Most apps are avaialble in linux to replace windows apps...but some things are available on windows only. Depends on needs
[09:38] <vilko> wait now
[09:38] <TengkSA> ompaul can we talk in private please?
[09:38] <topyli> Seveas: he's using my evil sources.list now, it has everything. we'll clean it up later.
[09:38] <vilko> i dont want that mozilla movie player dont matter
[09:38] <cello_rasp> oh wine why must you disappoint me sp
[09:38] <Nappatonttu> Chousuke: Sims 2, BattleField 2, sometimes HL2 and all kinds of new games
[09:38] <vilko> so what do i do next
[09:38] <Seveas> topyli, cool, then he's in good hands :)
[09:38] <Chousuke> Nappatonttu: Hmm :/
[09:38] <cello_rasp> you can get HL2 for linux :)
[09:38] <vilko> seems like its installed i think ?
[09:38] <Jnx> mwe, I'll try to reboot. Maybe the mtab hasn't noticed the devices or something. Be right back
[09:38] <navarone> Nappatonttu, two drives or one?
[09:38] <Chousuke> Nappatonttu: Those do work with Cedega AFAIK, but Cedega isn't free.
[09:39] <samitheberber> How I get 3D work in wine? I have a bit prolem with that :S
[09:39] <topyli> vilko: look at your menu. in apps -> sound&video, do you have mplayer?
[09:39] <Nappatonttu> One, that is the main problem
[09:39] <rossi> q4 runs under linux :D
[09:39] <ompaul> TengkSA, I don't see why we have to, people may learn something from our conversation, put this into your web browser: http://wiki.ubuntu.com then we will get it to come u
[09:39] <navarone> Nappatonttu, yeah...another drive would be ideal
[09:39] <Nappatonttu> one of the main problems
[09:39] <vilko> nope
[09:39] <TengkSA> ompaul that site works but the things that they tell me to do in terminal do not work
[09:39] <vilko> ;(
[09:39] <topyli> vilko: grrr. try "gmplayer" in a terminal
[09:39] <TengkSA> cd
[09:39] <TengkSA> wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:39] <Nappatonttu> Maybe I'll just stick to windows or Live CD until I get another drive :/
[09:39] <[Immo] Benji> how can I get acccess to the wine package?
[09:40] <vilko> bash: gmplayer: command not found
[09:40] <[Immo] Benji> from the repository
[09:40] <beau> Hi everyone.  I have a problem with playing WMV9 files.  I've installed the essential codecs in the usr/lib/win32 directory but mplayer / totem stilll won't play them.  Totem says I don't have the codec installed, and mplayer will play the audio for 1 sec and then I get an error saying "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_video
[09:40] <navarone> Nappatonttu, don't rush...get all your ducks ina  row first...so to speak
[09:40] <TengkSA> *** Does anyone know of any TV Card software for UBUNTU?
[09:40] <topyli> vilko: and the packages installed without error?
[09:40] <Amaranth> beau: install totem-xine
[09:40] <ompaul> TengkSA, you can message me
[09:40] <beau> apt-get totem-xine?
[09:40] <beau> is that the command?
[09:40] <Amaranth> beau: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[09:41] <[Immo] Benji> apt-get install
[09:41] <Amaranth> or use synaptic
[09:41] <Seveas> TengkSA, mythtv
[09:41] <Nappatonttu> If i decide to get the new drive, will it be easy then
[09:41] <beau> i'll try synaptic once.. thanks
[09:41] <navarone> Nappatonttu, how old is machine?
[09:41] <vilko> seems like it
[09:41] <vilko> vilko@Vilko:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-586 mplayer-mozilla mplayer-fonts w32codecs
[09:41] <vilko> Lser paketlistor... Frdig
[09:41] <vilko> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[09:41] <cmatheson> TengkSA: mplayer, xawtv, etc.
[09:41] <falke`> does anyone of you know a german irc ubuntu channel ?
[09:41] <topyli> vilko: strangest thing :\
[09:41] <Nappatonttu> navarone: like 4 years
[09:41] <cmatheson> falke`: #ubuntu-de?
[09:41] <Nappatonttu> But it has been updated quite a lot
[09:41] <topyli> vilko: ok, try the whole path, like "/usr/bin/gmplayer"
[09:41] <falke`> thank you
[09:42] <Nappatonttu> I think motherboard is the only one that is original
[09:42] <Nappatonttu> And the screen
[09:42] <vilko> k
[09:42] <vilko> bash: /usr/bin/gmplayer: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[09:42] <vilko> dont exist it says
[09:42] <vilko> maybe it installed somwhere else ?
[09:42] <navarone> Nappatonttu, before you install new drive when you get it...you may want to  see if bios has upgrade. My machine is about 4 years old and I had to upgrade bios for large drive to be seen without direct drive overlay thingy
[09:43] <topyli> vilko: no, packages always install their binaries there. the installation is not good
[09:43] <dave_> can anyone shed some light on this error message.
[09:43] <dave_> error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:43] <vilko> crying !
[09:43] <vilko> ;(
[09:43] <topyli> vilko: don't cry yet :)
[09:43] <TengkSA> thank you cmatheson
[09:43] <[Immo] Benji> how can I get acccess to the wine package from the repository?
[09:43] <Trackilizer> what's the lightest of all light weight desktop enviorments?
[09:43] <vilko> ok rises up from the cry
[09:43] <cmatheson> dave_: you don't have that version of the c++ libs, are you running some old binaries or something?
[09:43] <topyli> vilko: try apt-cache policy mplayer-586
[09:43] <TengkSA> Does anyone know of a useful MSN program besides for Gaim
[09:43] <Nappatonttu> Miranda IM
[09:44] <Nappatonttu> that's what i use on windows
[09:44] <cmatheson> Trackilizer: well... not running a desktop environment would be the lightest, as far as window-managers go i like openbox, windowmaker is nice too
[09:44] <existance> how do i add onto the PATH variable?
[09:44] <Trackilizer> TengkSA, aMSN#
[09:44] <dave_> cmatheson: I am trying to run VNC
[09:44] <vilko> vilko@Vilko:~$ apt-cache policy mplayer-586
[09:44] <vilko> mplayer-586:
[09:44] <vilko>   Installerad: (ingen)
[09:44] <vilko>   Kandidat: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9
[09:44] <vilko>   Versionstabell:
[09:44] <vilko>      1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 0
[09:44] <cmatheson> TengkSA: kopete
[09:44] <vilko>         500 http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages
[09:44] <topyli> vilko: does it report an installed version and a candidate?
[09:44] <topyli> oh, it doesn't
[09:44] <Trackilizer> thanks for that, i'll check it out
[09:44] <cmatheson> vilko: don't flood
[09:44] <mwe> vilko: don't paste in here
[09:44] <TengkSA> Trackilizer I am on the site but i do not know what file to download? does ubuntu run .gz files like windows does .exe?
[09:44] <vilko> ok sorry
[09:44] <dooglus> shining_: I got that slocate bug eventually.  It was a buffer overflow - the buffer was declared as char ch[0]  (!)
[09:44] <topyli> vilko: yeah, that was a bit long
[09:44] <cmatheson> TengkSA: no, .gz is like a .zip file
[09:45] <michael__> so, is their a problem with MSN and hotmail servers right now? - they seem to be the only ones i can't connect to right now
[09:45] <Trackilizer> TengkSA, use synaptic, should be in there
[09:45] <topyli> vilko: so, try installing just mplayer first. "sudo apt-get install mplayer-586"
[09:45] <cmatheson> michael__: i'm connected... but the hotmail servers always give me problems
[09:45] <vilko> ok
[09:45] <grayman> TengkSA, erm gz is like zip. linux executable files dont have an extension
[09:45] <beau> Video codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[09:45] <beau> thats what I get after I reinstalled totem-xine via synaptic
[09:45] <vilko> ahaaaa
[09:45] <vilko> now it seems like its installing :)
[09:45] <TengkSA> Synaptic is like WinZip right
[09:45] <yaaar> has anybody had a chance to take a look at that dvd detection problem? short description here: http://pastebin.com/487542
[09:46] <navarone> beau search for win32-codecs
[09:46] <beau> i've alreayd got them installed
[09:46] <beau> in the usr/lib/win32 folder...
[09:46] <grayman> TengkSA, no. synaptic is like ahuge source for applications to download
[09:46] <topyli> vilko: ok, i don't understand why it didn't before. you should still do the same for at least w32codecs and mplayer-fonts
[09:46] <vilko> ok
[09:46] <TengkSA> www.synaptic.com ?
[09:46] <grayman> no
[09:46] <grayman> its already installed by default on your system
[09:46] <grayman> it comes with ubuntu
[09:46] <Trackilizer> TengkSA, it's already in ubuntu
[09:47] <vilko> got damn the dload is fast
[09:47] <vilko> :D
[09:47] <Ofe> TengkSA, system -> (something I don't remember in english) -> synaptic package manager
[09:47] <navarone> System/Administration/Synaptic
[09:47] <vilko> hhihihihihh
[09:47] <grayman> what he said
[09:47] <beau> i really don't get this... i can watch pretty much any other movie but wmv9, and the codec is installed in the right directory, AND i've rebooted
[09:48] <topyli> vilko: you'll get used to the goodness :)
[09:48] <vilko> damn now i got mplayer runnin
[09:48] <vilko> it looks freakish good
[09:48] <TengkSA> AMSN is not in this Synaptic thing
[09:48] <Coag> is there any way to force alien to convert an i386 rmp to an i386 deb on an amd64 system?
[09:48] <topyli> vilko: ok, open a wicked format movie. an xvid or something microsoft
[09:48] <cmatheson> !tell TengkSA about universe
[09:48] <mwe> beau: I heard there is a problem with the lates wmv codec. probably some wmv files will play and some wont
[09:48] <Coag> rpm rather
[09:49] <grayman> it is :)
[09:49] <beau> bah
[09:49] <beau> well EVERYONE file on ebaumsworld.com doesn't work. just so everyone knows :)
[09:49] <beau> EVERY*
[09:50] <navarone> beau, maybe you need a plugin for firefox?
[09:50] <beau> well mplayer starts to play it in firefox though
[09:50] <dave_> OK I give up on that error can anyone tell me how I can remotely connect to my desktop via a web browser?
[09:50] <beau> like i said, it'll play the sound for 1 second, and then return some error 11
[09:50] <vilko> i did
[09:50] <vilko> :D watchin back to the future 2
[09:50] <vilko> :D
[09:50] <beau> totem won't even try, saying the wmv9 codec isn't installed
[09:50] <vilko> xvid
[09:50] <topyli> vilko: success!
[09:50] <topyli> \o/
[09:50] <vilko> wieeieie
[09:51] <vilko> but now how da heck do i get tv out working ?
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> dave_, TightVNC has a Java applet that will let you do that.
[09:51] <navarone> beau, is error related to sound output source? maybe you need to fool around with that
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> dave_, I've never tried using it, but I know it exists.
[09:51] <blue-frog> dave_, ubuntu wiki, look for freenx
[09:51] <topyli> vilko: now, edit your sources.list again. comment with #'s every line below the breezy and breezy backports lines. they're  not very good to keep around permanently
[09:51] <ColonelPanique> dave_ : vnc... http://ip.of.your.host:5800, or http://ip.of.your.host:5801
[09:51] <beau> Error: Playback interupted by signal 11 in module: decode_video
[09:51] <lightbright> wiki said: Photons are produced by atoms when a bound electron moves from one orbital to another orbital with less (more negative) energy."  But where did this photon EXIST before this?
[09:51] <topyli> vilko: sometimes you need something, you may want to enable some of those lines temporarily
[09:52] <lightbright> sorry wrong channel
[09:52] <mwe> beau: why are they using microsoft property instead of a standard anyway?
[09:52] <beau> ebaumsworld.com?
[09:52] <mwe> yeah
[09:52] <vilko> ok
[09:52] <beau> good question; I dunno, I've used the site for years to watch funny videos every week
[09:52] <christian_> Where can I download XMMS?
[09:52] <dave_> OK Thanks will try with those pointers
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> lightbright, I'll say.  But I know the answer, if you want.
[09:53] <christian_> I can't find XMMS in Synaptic or with apt-get
[09:53] <vilko> ok
[09:53] <blue-frog> christian_, enable universe
[09:53] <cello_rasp> beau it is a sign not to visit that craphole of theft and popup advertisments
[09:53] <christian_> blue-frog, thanks. I'll try
[09:53] <carminati> christian_, have you enabled universe repositories?
[09:53] <mwe> beau: yeah. Well for what it's worth I heard that some wmv files wont play in linux atm
[09:53] <ColonelPanique> dave_ : make sure vncserver is runnin on the host prior to trying to access from a browser of course. ;-)
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> christian_ and blue-frog: I have it in main.
[09:53] <mohkohn> Can anybody here tell me how to hide and unhide desktop icons in gnome 2.10?
[09:54] <mwe> beau: maybe they encode all the files with the incompatible version
[09:54] <beau> cello: and what site do you recommend that's organized and updated regularly?
[09:54] <cello_rasp> ebaumsworldsucks.com
[09:54] <beau> mwe: yeah i'm guessing so... what a bummer
[09:54] <dooglus> http://ebaumsworldsucks.com/
[09:54] <stark-johan> is it possible to fix some kind of selection so that i can double click sfv-files to run them with "cksfv -f" in a terminal window?
[09:54] <beau> lol, and you say ebaumsworld is a theft?
[09:54] <beau> alright, i'm checking it out
[09:54] <dooglus> they steal most of the stuff they host
[09:54] <vilko> how did i edit the sources list again i forgott after al this major exitment
[09:54] <mwe> beau: but hang on I'll try the site from here and see if it works for me
[09:54] <deltron> that site is thievery lol
[09:55] <blue-frog> christian_, indeed main.... sudo apt-get update and make sure main is enabled
[09:55] <carminati> Hi people, Are you having problems with Smart Package manager interface?
[09:55] <TengkSA> what is the equivalent of Notepad
[09:55] <cello_rasp> gedit
[09:55] <topyli> vilko: and then do "sudo apt-get update" again, and you're back to safe ubuntu userness :)
[09:55] <navarone> gedit
[09:55] <dooglus> TengkSA: gedit
[09:55] <ColonelPanique> TengkSA : gedit
[09:55] <cello_rasp> bam
[09:55] <topyli> vilko: happy hacking!
[09:55] <vilko> lol
[09:55] <vilko> how did i edit the sources list again i forgott after al this major exitment
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> TengkSA, Although some of the things I used to do in Notepad I've found other things are more powerful for, like Bluefish, Nvu, or Screem for HTML stuff.
[09:55] <topyli> vilko: lol. "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:55] <vilko> gedit
[09:55] <blue-frog> vilko, use synaptic to do it
[09:55] <vilko> ow
[09:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> i want to type up a report for a class whats a good voice recognition softwre like dragon?
[09:56] <topyli> vilko: make notes man :)
[09:56] <mwe> beau: I was able to watch a video on ebaumsworld.com
[09:56] <vilko> im making notes :D
[09:56] <navarone> Comrade_Vladimir,  type or dictate? lol
[09:56] <beau> ok, so why can't I>? :)
[09:56] <Dreamglider> is it posible to have four diffrent wallpapers on each desktop/workspace ?
[09:56] <vilko> x-chat has log right ?
[09:56] <Comrade_Vladimir> navarone ya know the software that u talk and it types
[09:56] <christian_> blue-frog, thanks. It's working :)
[09:56] <vilko> gonna look at this log :D
[09:57] <topyli> vilko: it does, if you have it enabled. you can turn logging on and off
[09:57] <blue-frog> vilko, use synaptic to do it, no notes to take...
[09:57] <mwe> beau: I don't know. you have the w32codecs installed? what player are you using?
[09:57] <Chousuke> Comrade_Vladimir: Voice recognition is unreliable
[09:57] <Comrade_Vladimir> so its alot easier
[09:57] <beau> by w32codecs, do you mean the codec pack: essential-20050412
[09:57] <topyli> vilko: logs are at your home directory, in a hidden subdirectory called .xchat2 (note the dot)
[09:57] <raymond> can some one tell me why wont my flash drive work
[09:58] <ColonelPanique> Chousuke : works good for me.  i command my robots with it, and drive my car via voice recognition.
[09:58] <mwe> !w32codecs
[09:58] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:58] <beau> i extracted all the codecs from that pack to /lib/usr/win32 per the instructions.. and it was supposed to contain a wmv9 codec
[09:58] <mwe> beau: I mean the ones from there
[09:58] <beau> i'll try that once
[09:58] <beau> maybe that codec is bad
[09:58] <mwe> beau: uninstall the old one first then
[09:58] <beau> ok
[09:59] <aspuru> Is there a way of having gcc 3.3 in Breezy and switching back and forth with 4.0 ?
[09:59] <Comrade_Vladimir> a free one that is
[09:59] <rem_> Whats a good dvd ripper for nux ?
[09:59] <aspuru> Ie. using .debs, etc. rather than compiling it by hand?
[09:59] <aspuru> Synaptic only contains g++ 3.3 not the rest of gcc
[09:59] <Some_Body> hm, what is the mouse configuration program in breezy?
[09:59] <coolgirl> slttttttttttt
[09:59] <Some_Body> mouseconfig?
[10:00] <topyli> rem_: none. you could try winki the ripper. there are pretty good command line tools, and an older graphical hack called dvdrip
[10:00] <mwe> rem_: I don't know any really good ones. I go to my win pc and use dvd schrink when I have to
[10:01] <coolgirl> das ist compliziert
[10:01] <jenda> hey, how would I export a "ls -R" to a text file? It's way too long to copy paste from terminal...
[10:01] <mwe> jenda: ls -R > foobar
[10:01] <jenda> mwe: thanks!
[10:01] <Stew_Lappy> dvdshrink runs great under wine
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> Question about aforementioned FreeNX: How is it that there is the same product available free and commercially?
[10:01] <mwe> Stew_Lappy: thats good news
[10:01] <Comrade_Vladimir> i want to type up a report for a class whats a good voice recognition softwre like dragon?
[10:01] <TengkSA> What program do you use to listen to mp3s
[10:02] <ScootaDoota> xmms
[10:02] <zblach> Comrade_Vladimir, lololol
[10:02] <Stew_Lappy> xmms
[10:02] <zblach> xmms
[10:02] <CuriosCat> Howdy all.
[10:02] <mwe> Stew_Lappy: then maybe I'll finally have decent dvd software on my linux machine
[10:02] <Comrade_Vladimir> zblach what
[10:02] <vilko> damn this linux thang is like a wet dream
[10:02] <Comrade_Vladimir> how do novuscript and dragon work
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> TengkSA, RhythmBox and VLC.
[10:02] <Some_Body> heh
[10:02] <zblach> 'type a report'+'speech to text'
[10:02] <TengkSA> !mp3
[10:02] <Some_Body> well put vilko...
[10:02] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:02] <zblach> VLC is for video
[10:02] <TengkSA> >>!mp3<<
[10:02] <cheops> oink oink
[10:03] <topyli> vilko: yeah, it kinda works :)
[10:03] <Stew_Lappy> mwe there is a great howto somewhere on the forums for dvdshrink
[10:03] <Comrade_Vladimir> anyone got a good one for free?
[10:03] <thegladiator> vlc player
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> zblach, Can be.  Runs other stuff great too, in a small, simple window.
[10:03] <vilko> hihihihih now me is gonna setup intranet server in my little network with al my goodies 1,6 tb of hmm movies/pron :D
[10:03] <zblach> quick question. can I bind keyboard keys to launch programs?
[10:03] <battalion> hey can anyone help me?
[10:03] <beau> download w32codecs right now..
[10:03] <zblach> tonyyarusso, true, but i find support for the matroska format a bit ...lacking
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> !tell battalion about ask
[10:04] <Some_Body> !mouse
[10:04] <ubotu> mouse is, like, totally, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[10:04] <mwe> beau: yeah. now sudo dpkg -i it
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> zblach, What's matroska?
[10:04] <battalion> yes tell me about it?
[10:04] <TengkSA> how do you set Rhythmbox to be the default mp3 player?
[10:04] <topyli> TengkSA: i thought it was the default already
[10:04] <Toba> hey
[10:04] <zblach> matroska is a movie extension (.mkv) nice handling of subtitles and multiple language tracks
[10:04] <Toba> is there a way to get ubuntu to shut up about it when filesystems (usb) automout?
[10:04] <battalion> dammit is anyone gonna tell me whats going on or what??
[10:04] <zblach> whatever it is, i have a couple gig of it
[10:05] <zblach> battalion, whats your problem?\
[10:05] <Toba> asking to import photos and popping up this file manager window is getting old
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> zblach, Oh.  Never heard of it.
[10:05] <battalion> how do i install things on ubuntu?
[10:05] <TengkSA> topyli its not, this movie thing is
[10:05] <Toba> oh
[10:05] <Toba> sure
[10:05] <vilko> rite so how about this amsn is it also available in synaptic ?
[10:05] <Toba> one sec battalion
[10:05] <ompaul> !tell battalion about synaptic
[10:05] <ompaul> !tell battalion about repos
[10:05] <Toba> thx ompaul
[10:05] <battalion> like i know i'm supposed todownload the linux versions of programs but which one>? the rpm pr tar.gz?
[10:05] <ompaul> battalion, read the stuff from ubotu
[10:05] <zblach> !tell battalion about apt-get
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> battalion, Depends on what it is.  apt/synaptic is best, for anything available in repos.  dpkg -i works for downloaded standalone .deb.
[10:06] <Some_Body> ...ndiswrapper?
[10:06] <TengkSA> ive downloaded 2 programs and they are both .gz how do i install them
[10:06] <ompaul> Toba, np :)
[10:06] <Toba> hrm
[10:06] <mwe> also point him to the ubuntu starter guide
[10:06] <Toba> how would you convert an rpm to deb?
[10:06] <Some_Body> too lazy to scroll up
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> battalion, deb if available.
[10:06] <mwe> forgot the url
[10:06] <topyli> TengkSA: if you're using gnome, right click a mp3 file and set rhythmbox as default
[10:06] <Toba> there was a program that did that I thought
[10:06] <zblach> anyways, old keyboard died and i've a whole bunch of keys on my new one with no function
[10:06] <ompaul> TengkSA, you don't you get the versions for ubuntu
[10:06] <mwe> Toba: alien
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> battalion, rpm can be done with alien, though that's not necessarily your best shot.
[10:06] <mwe> Toba: be careful though
[10:06] <battalion> i can find the starter guide on google but at least tell me, do i download .rpm or .tar.gz??
[10:06] <battalion> oooo so i downaload tar.gz
[10:06] <battalion> ?
[10:06] <zblach> yes
[10:06] <mwe> Toba: the pacages can cause breakage
[10:07] <battalion> k
[10:07] <Toba> I guess they could
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> battalion, .tar.gz will do you fine.
[10:07] <topyli> Toba: use alien as the last resort. it can make weird debs
[10:07] <Toba> since they would be from a different repo
[10:07] <Toba> and want different and strange dependencies
[10:07] <battalion> i read something in the start guide abot the terminal and apt-sumthing
[10:07] <zblach> but i've been having strangeness with firefox. downloads are saved as .tar.gz.tar
[10:07] <mwe> Toba: and for a different distribution
[10:07] <battalion> is that along the right track?
[10:07] <Toba> mwe: oh, and that too :)
[10:07] <topyli> zblach: sometimes i get that too
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> battalion and TengkSA: Decompress the .tar.gz, open a terminal window, and go to the folder that created.
[10:07] <mwe> Toba: however if it breaks just uninstall it
[10:07] <ompaul> Toba, correction the word different and strange could be replaced with a single one - broken
[10:07] <Toba> meh
[10:07] <vilko> ow crappers back too n00b mode where is the got damn terminal again
[10:08] <zblach> topyli, i get it all the time
[10:08] <Some_Body> eh, if somebody could help me...in breezy, the only thing my mouse can do is left and right click
[10:08] <mwe> Toba: just make sure you don't --force install it
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> battalion and TengkSA: Look for an executable file, often named things like 'configure' or 'install'.
[10:08] <TengkSA> okay Im confused it wont let me listen to any of my songs giving me an error saying the file is no audio stream
[10:08] <Toba> Some_Body: settings -> preferences -> mouse
[10:08] <Some_Body> and it works on my regular computer...do I need to install a driver for my mouse?
[10:08] <HymnToLife> !mp3
[10:08] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:08] <Some_Body> oh, thanks
[10:08] <Toba> *system
[10:08] <Toba> not settings
[10:08] <battalion> tony and then wat???
[10:08] <plagiats> Some_Body, did you try using a live-cd to see if your mouse is recognized ?
[10:08] <topyli> Some_Body: can you move the pointer or just click?
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> battalion and TengkSA: Then, installing from the source is sudo ./configure && make && make install.
[10:08] <Some_Body> just click
[10:08] <ThePyromaniac> hey, if i have ubuntu one one HDD and want to move it to a HDD that already has Windows installed, how can i do this?
[10:08] <ThePyromaniac> on*
[10:09] <Toba> ok nvm what I gave you is no good Some_Body
[10:09] <battalion> kk
[10:09] <plagiats> Some_Body, I mean with a Mandrakemove or Kaella
[10:09] <battalion> i'll try
[10:09] <battalion> and i have one more qu
[10:09] <KarlosII> ubuntu smb help requested: when i type smb:/// in the location bar I get a authentication required dialog so I entere my password and it fails, what am I doing wrong?
[10:09] <beau> beau@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:09] <beau> Password:
[10:09] <beau> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[10:09] <beau> beau@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[10:09] <ThePyromaniac> i have to clean install or can i use some partition program to do it
[10:09] <battalion> can i save things during the live version so there there when i restart live/
[10:09] <psusi> ThePyromaniac, could you be more specific?  do you want to keep windows and share the drive?  or screw windows and you just want to copy your ubuntu install from your old drive to a new one?
[10:09] <battalion> ?
[10:09] <ompaul> beau, do not paste in here - use a pastebin
[10:09] <KarlosII> beau apt is running in bg
[10:09] <beau> ah
[10:09] <battalion> or do i hav to partition my hard drvie?
[10:09] <ScootaDoota> TenkSA: what you using to play you mp3s
[10:09] <beau> pastebin?
[10:10] <mwe> beau: close synaptics
[10:10] <KarlosII> beau re topic
[10:10] <ompaul> !pastebin
[10:10] <topyli> ThePyromaniac: you can partition and format the new hard drive and copy your installation there. but then you'll have to take care that it will boot as well :)
[10:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:10] <HymnToLife> ThePyromaniac > you mean you want to copy tour Ubuntu partition on another HD ?
[10:10] <beau> oh, cool... sorry bout that
[10:10] <KarlosII> okay now bak to my question for yas
[10:10] <battalion> r u people running live or install?
[10:10] <KarlosII> install
[10:10] <david_m_e> blue_frog u still there (i've lost my user list)
[10:10] <Cpt_Vimes> install
[10:10] <tebat> install here.
[10:10] <beau> install
[10:10] <Stew_Lappy> install
[10:10] <plagiats> install too
[10:10] <mwe> rofl
[10:10] <psusi> battalion, install of course... live is only for testing
[10:10] <battalion> if i had a second hard drive could i install ubuntu on it and them boott from either one?
[10:10] <cfh_dev> install
[10:10] <mwe> install
[10:10] <HymnToLife> battalion > no one in his right mind is running the Live CD on a daily basis
[10:11] <mwe> install
[10:11] <KarlosII> May I repeat my question ? :P
[10:11] <cfh_dev> battalion: yep
[10:11] <HymnToLife> battalion > of course
[10:11] <psusi> battalion, you can do that with one hard drive as well
[10:11] <bluefoxicy> holy crap
[10:11] <bluefoxicy> nessus is in main now
[10:11] <topyli> oh my. no we'll get 600 "installs" here
[10:11] <Cpt_Vimes> battalion, I run dualboot on the same HD....works beautifully
[10:11] <ThePyromaniac> long story short, i have a big HDD for media only, but it has this install of linux. i have another smaller HDD with windows on. i want the smaller one to contain only OS's and the one i currently have linux on to be media only
[10:11] <plagiats> psusi, live cd is also useful for working on a friend's computer or for rescuing his datas ;)
[10:11] <TengkSA> okay thanks
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> battalion, I have yet to figure out a way to do that, although it would be super-slick.  See my suggested spec for Dapper+1 at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-apt-install-to-usbflash, I think that's what you want too.
[10:11] <mwe> topyli: yeah :)
[10:11] <battalion> fuck i wanna install but i love my games, i'm gonna hav to go hard drive hunting
[10:11] <pjd1> what's the general feeling about the use of webmin to admin one's 5.10 installation of Ubuntu?
[10:11] <KarlosII> ubuntu smb help requested: when i type smb:/// in the location bar I get a authentication required dialog so I entere my password and it fails, what am I doing wrong?
[10:11] <david_m_e> HymnToLife actually, i have been considering how to use the LiveCD every time i boot... but haven't had time yet to figure out the mods i want
[10:11] <Stew_Lappy> dual booting is so easy with umbuntu
[10:11] <ThePyromaniac> so somehow i must resize the windows NTFS partition, move ubuntu and remove this one
[10:11] <mwe> KarlosII: don't repeat
[10:11] <KarlosII> bah
[10:11] <beau> damn, same problem.. i don't get it... it just plays the audio for a second, and then stops... which would tell me the codec is installed ok
[10:12] <TengkSA> do you people use packet managers
[10:12] <Kyle_> hey, can anyone give me a pointer, ubuntu doesn't want to boot properly for me
[10:12] <mwe> KarlosII: nobody knows or has time to answer
[10:12] <Cpt_Vimes> battalion, you don't really need 2 HDDs for that
[10:12] <ColonelPanique> battalion : keep the language on a professional level in here, please.
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> battalion, If your drive isn't full, the Ubuntu installer supports NTFS resize now.
[10:12] <battalion> sry
[10:12] <Cpt_Vimes> unless you're low on space or something
[10:12] <HymnToLife> david_m_e > it's stupid imo (no offence)
[10:12] <KarlosII> mwe: dun diss me I asked if I could repeat and noone said i couldn't so I did :)
[10:12] <psusi> ThePyromaniac, the easiest way is to just reinstall ubuntu on the smaller drive... it should automatically shrink the windows partition and use the free space, then blow away the ubuntu partition on the big drive
[10:12] <battalion> ntfs?
[10:12] <ScootaDoota> what happens Kyle
[10:12] <tebat> battalion, you can install quite a few games on linux.
[10:12] <HymnToLife> Live CD is too slow
[10:12] <plagiats> battalion, always backup your datas
[10:12] <KarlosII> mwe with your attitude I dun have the time to help u either yet I take the time :P
[10:12] <battalion> i heard abouit a linux steam???
[10:12] <bluefoxicy> livecd is ok if you have a gig of ram
[10:12] <battalion> anyone know about it?
[10:12] <ThePyromaniac> psusi ok, if it doesnt work im gonna come on via live cd and kick your ass :p
[10:13] <bluefoxicy> battalion:  cedega
[10:13] <cfh_dev> For wireless ethernet, is it better to use a usb or pci adapter?
[10:13] <beau> battalion: probably with cedega or wine
[10:13] <mwe> KarlosII: however, don't you need something else like smb://HOST
[10:13] <KarlosII> cfh pci imho
[10:13] <david_m_e>  HymnToLife your name suggests a religious context, yet you seem awfully quick to judge
[10:13] <ThePyromaniac> oh btw, last time i tried this i had windows walking all over the boot options
[10:13] <plagiats> battalion, ntfs ~ way windows stores your files
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> battalion, Windows 2000/XP filesystem.  Assuming that might be what a lot of games would be on.
[10:13] <HymnToLife> ThePyromaniac > When you install Ubuntu, the partitioner has a "copy data from another partition" option
[10:13] <topyli> KarlosII: your question seems to be far up, not everybody will remember it now. ask away
[10:13] <ThePyromaniac> hymntolife ahh yes i remember, thanks man
[10:13] <cfh_dev> KarlosII: I'm beginning to think the same.  I've gone through 3 usb adapters trying to get them to work right.
[10:13] <ThePyromaniac> *logs*
[10:13] <KarlosII> mwe do I? maybe thats the help I need
[10:13] <Friar_tuck> Hi... Can I "Switch User" in gnome without having to logout?
[10:13] <pjd1> what's the general feeling about the use of webmin to admin one's 5.10 installation of Ubuntu?
[10:14] <plagiats> yes
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> Friar_tuck, Applications > System > New Login.
[10:14] <battalion> thanks everyone youve been a help
[10:14] <HymnToLife> david_m_e > same for you :p I am not religious at all
[10:14] <EdLin> TengkSA, apt-get, aptitude, dpkg for those few times you need individual debs.
[10:14] <KarlosII> topyli: ehehe I've already repeated it twice :)
[10:14] <Kyle_> Scoota, the boot process just stops at the PCI hotplugging load
[10:14] <psusi> tonyyarusso, why is it so difficult to install to a usb drive?
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> Friar_tuck, Ctrl-Alt-F(7/8) will switch between them.
[10:14] <topyli> KarlosII: yeah, smb://host/share or something
[10:14] <cfh_dev> pjd1: Webmin is cool but I've seen a lot of bad traffic coming across routers trying to get into webmin so be careful of the access you allow your webmin
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> Friar_tuck, Assuming your console switching isn't broken like mine.
[10:14] <bobbyd> hi
[10:15] <cfh_dev> Grussdich
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> psusi, I have no idea.  I've been told other distros' live CDs can do it, but not this one.
[10:15] <ColonelPanique> pjd1 : i don't know about the "general feeling" but i know about the "colonel feeling" ;-)
[10:15] <KarlosII> topyli: umm why won't it show me a list of host on the network?
[10:15] <mwe> KarlosII: have you tried smb://domain\username:password@server\sharename
[10:15] <ScootaDoota> Kyle: What hardware are you running?
[10:15] <pjd1> is there a samba config program in ubuntu?
[10:15] <butcherbird> good... god...cant get sshfs to work as normal user
[10:15] <mwe> KarlosII: if that doesn't work something is broken
[10:15] <Kyle_> what in particular?  it's an ASUS z63a laptop
[10:16] <topyli> KarlosII: dunno, when i go to places -> network servers, i get all servers on the network visible. (which sucks on a large university network btw)
[10:16] <bobbyd> is it possible to to connect two ad-hoc wireless networks using a linux box?
[10:16] <ScootaDoota> Kyle...its most likely something to do with your PCMCIA...have you got any of these cards in the laptop?
[10:16] <Kyle_> nope...
[10:17] <bshumate> pjd1: SWAT is available to configure Samba from the Universe packages
[10:17] <Kyle_> I was wondering if it was because of the wireless mouse?
[10:17] <Kyle_> dongle is in a USB port
[10:17] <spikeh> where are the fonts stored on Ubuntu?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> bobbyd, Yes.  I was able to ping back and forth between two laptops that way, but ended up using a router before going further than that.  (There were already two in the room, so why not?)
[10:17] <Seveas> raitchev, turn of that stupid away annonce script
[10:17] <ScootaDoota> can you diable the PMCIA controller in you bios to see if that enables it to boot?
[10:17] <Seveas> next time is a ban
[10:17] <mwe> bshumate: but nano should already be present on the system. it's a great tool for configurign smb.conf
[10:18] <raitchev> raitchev im sorry
[10:18] <raitchev> raitchev ill remove that right now
[10:18] <raitchev> raitchev sorry again
[10:18] <bobbyd> tonyyarusso, I want to tunnel between two ad-hoc networks across the internet
[10:18] <ScootaDoota> nano...boooooooooo.............vi yaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy
[10:18] <Kyle_> ok, I'll give that a try, thanks
[10:18] <bshumate> mwe: the Samba Web Administration Tool is good for new folks who may frequently screw up conf files ;-)
[10:18] <KarlosII> topyli: the fiel manager is not showing a option for places -> network servers
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> bobbyd, What does that even mean?
[10:18] <peter__> hi... Where are themes stored for all users?
[10:18] <mwe> bshumate: yeah I guess so. I was kidding
[10:19] <bshumate> mwe: and the dude asked for a tool, not an editor :-)
[10:19] <peter__> (in gnome)
[10:19] <jenda> mwe: ls is amazing :) It let's me email 80 pages of my Jukebox' contents to my music teacher in like 2 seconds...
[10:19] <topyli> KarlosII: are you using gnome or kde? the places menu on the gnome panel is what i mean
[10:19] <bobbyd> tonyyarusso, I want to be able to have a sony PSP in my living room, connected to my wireless AP, and then connect to someone else in their living room, but across the internet, fooling the PSPs into thinking they're in the same room.
[10:19] <KarlosII> gnome
[10:19] <mwe> jenda: what's that?
[10:19] <KarlosII> ah
[10:20] <ColonelPanique> bobbyd : what do Sony PSPs have to do with Ubuntu though?
[10:20] <spikeh> where are the fonts stored on Ubuntu?
[10:20] <B1zz> maybe he using ubuntu :-p
[10:20] <KarlosII> topyli: it's asking for a password
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> spikeh, Try locate fonts.
[10:20] <bobbyd> ColonelPanique, nothing, but I was hoping to use Ubuntu to make the tunnel between the two networks
[10:20] <topyli> KarlosII: good :)
[10:20] <peter__> Hi one of the default gnome themes keep crashing my computer. Can someone please tell me where they are kept so I can delete it?
[10:20] <KarlosII> username/domain/password
[10:20] <KarlosII> but I'm not sure what password it's asking for
[10:21] <plagiats> spikeh, open nautilus, press CTRL+L, type "fonts://", you're done.
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> bobbyd, I've got nothing for you.
[10:21] <spikeh> thanks plagiats
[10:21] <topyli> KarlosII: whatever password you have on the server you're connecting to
[10:21] <mwe> bshumate: I think users should learn not to get desperate if they have to look at a text file though
[10:21] <ScootaDoota> themes /usr/share/thems
[10:21] <captain_petz> HELP! kde isn't working. I'm in x and it's the only working gui
[10:21] <plagiats> spikeh, you're welcome.
[10:21] <jenda> mwe: neh, I asked just a while ago how to export the "ls" commands output - which now let's me send 80 pages of directory listings to my music teacher, from which he can then choose what we'll play in jazz seminar :) - just saying the feature you shouwed me is awesome...
[10:21] <christian_> Can anyone help me with MySQL?
[10:21] <apokryphos> captain_petz: join #kubuntu
[10:21] <zorlon> Yo
[10:22] <bobbyd> caplink811_log, #kubuntu
[10:22] <KarlosII> topyli: ummm server?
[10:22] <bshumate> mwe: editing the configuration files is my preferred method as well, but the fellow specifically requested a tool for configuring Samba, so I pointed out one to him...what's the issue man?
[10:22] <plagiats> captain_petz, try mv .kde .kde-back
[10:22] <mwe> jenda: ah ok :)
[10:22] <ScootaDoota> I agree with mwe, to get a good grasp of Samba you need to understand the config file...SWAT glosses it over
[10:22] <christian_> Can anyone help me with MySQL?
[10:22] <bobbyd> captain_petz, #kubuntu even :)
[10:22] <topyli> KarlosII: to your machine, the other box (with the share) is the server
[10:22] <KarlosII> topyli: I have a windows box and linux box connected to a router that I'm trying o see the windwos box shares and vice versa
[10:22] <mwe> bshumate: there is no issue. just thoughts
[10:22] <bshumate> mew: coolio!
[10:22] <mwe> bshumate: what you did was fine. I was kidding
[10:23] <bshumate> err, mwe even...coolio++ !
[10:23] <christian_> KarlosII, use Samba. sudo apt-get samba
[10:23] <topyli> swat does screw up the file pretty badly though
[10:23] <Dreamglider> is there a gui for nmap ?
[10:23] <B1zz> wheres that guy with the psp question
[10:23] <christian_> KarlosII, when you've installed samba use smb://comutername
[10:23] <topyli> Dreamglider: nmapfe
[10:23] <bobbyd> B1zz, here
[10:23] <JoeBloe> When running the 686-smp kernel and I load gnome the computer reboots when gnome is finishing loading...any suggestions?
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> KarlosII, I was able to view Linux shares on Windows with samba; haven't tried the other direction yet.
[10:24] <topyli> ScootaDoota: webmin leaves the file in a readable condition. i don't know why swat has to mess it up so completely
[10:24] <christian_> mwe, can you help me regarding problems with MySQL?
[10:24] <KarlosII> k
[10:24] <battalion> hi everyone i'm back, i downloading the tar.gz,decompressed it and opened a terminal, now i need to know how to gert the the dirrectory in the terminal
[10:24] <KarlosII> cehcking it out right now
[10:24] <mwe> christian_: maybe if you ask a more specific question
[10:24] <pjd1> is there an inetd management tool?
[10:24] <plagiats> tonyyarusso, KarlosII, see http://fs-driver.org
[10:25] <christian_> mwe, I've installed mysql-server on my computer. And I can't access it. It tells me I don't have the rights
[10:25] <plagiats> christian_, #mysql
[10:25] <ColonelPanique> pjd1 : you and your management tools! just edit /etc/inetd.conf already ;-P
[10:25] <christian_> plagiats, thanks
[10:25] <soulkeep> moin moin! Muss leider meine Windowspartition wieder beleben (spielchen und ein paar appl.) Grub hat noch meine Alte drinne (win2k)... aber ich schtze wenn ich winxp neuinstalliere macht es mir Grub kapput, oder? wie kann ich das am besten verhindern?
[10:25] <topyli> ColonelPanique: :D
[10:26] <soulkeep> oh sorry ... not DE here ;)
[10:26] <bshumate> tell soulkeep bout de
[10:26] <topyli> pjd1: if you want to click on server stuff, install webmin
[10:26] <mwe> plagiats: that looks cool. too bad I'm using reiserfs
[10:26] <plagiats> mwe, similar stuff exists for reiserfs
[10:27] <plagiats> mwe, i'm looking for links to give you
[10:27] <edgarin_> how to play in ubuntu?? ganes
[10:27] <pjd1> topyli: i have installed webmin.  I can't get my config of samba to work properly. my personal account continues to be disabled automatically.
[10:27] <edgarin_> games
[10:27] <ScootaDoota> topyli:  I gave up on SWAT...its okay for very simple configs, but once you start to get an advanced config SWAT is no use
[10:27] <Jrex-Linux> Please help I get this when running system admin programs, like user config:
[10:27] <Jrex-Linux> Jrex-Linux every single system admin program I try to open says this:
[10:27] <Jrex-Linux> Jrex-Linux Failed to run users-admin as user root:
[10:27] <Jrex-Linux> Jrex-Linux  Child terminated with 1 status
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> ScootaDoota, My SWAT was broken, so I had to do the config file to begin with.
[10:28] <plagiats> mwe, http://yareg.akucom.de/index.html#SCREENSHOT<-- here you go
[10:28] <ompaul> Jrex-Linux, DO NOT PASTE HERE thanks
[10:28] <Jrex-Linux> sorry
[10:28] <butcherbird> grr chmod'd fusermount modprobe'd fuse im a member of fuse group still cant sshfs as normal user. anyone have an idea?
[10:28] <ompaul> !tell Jrex-Linux about pastebin
[10:28] <CodenameKT> jrex-linux sudo ___
[10:28] <battalion> how do i cd to a directory in terminal?
[10:28] <Jrex-Linux> I loged into sudo
[10:28] <asterick> batta: I really hope that's aj oke.
[10:28] <tebat> type cd /blah/blah
[10:29] <Jrex-Linux> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo
[10:29] <Jrex-Linux> sudo: must be setuid root
[10:29] <battalion> naw i wish it was too
[10:29] <ScootaDoota> editing the smb.conf  file is the way to go...its not very complicated
[10:29] <tebat> *replace whatever directory you want instead of blah/blah
[10:29] <mwe> plagiats: looks cool
[10:29] <Jrex-Linux> eek nm, sorry again
[10:29] <battalion> i'm not used to linux
[10:29] <tebat> battalion: cd name-of-directory
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> plagiats, While that looks very interesting, now that I think about it I'm a bit confused.  I didn't need to do anything like that to make the Windows computer see my Linux shares.  Why is that?
[10:30] <tebat> ex. 'cd /home/jimmy/stuff' (without the ' of course)
[10:30] <asterick> man, doing a base install from a live CD is slloooow.
[10:30] <mwe> tonyyarusso: because there smb shares
[10:30] <plagiats> tonyyarusso, I supposed once you installed GNU/Linux on a FAT32 partition
[10:30] <ompaul> Jrex-Linux, sudo command does the trick
[10:30] <mwe> tonyyarusso: windows thinks it's another windows machine
[10:30] <ompaul> !tell Jrex-Linux about sudo
[10:30] <Kyle_> hrm...
[10:30] <topyli> battalion: if you use gnome and gnome-terminal, you can drag&drop files and directories into the command line from the file manager too
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Ah.  So this driver he linked to would be for non-smb folders.
[10:30] <battalion> k i'll try
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> plagiats, Nope, ext3.  See mwe's.
[10:31] <mwe> tonyyarusso: yeah that would show anything on the same computer using ext
[10:31] <Kyle_> anyone know how to disable the hotplugging module from GRUB before boot?
[10:32] <mwe> Kyle_: you mean disable hotplug altogether? why would you wanna do that?
[10:32] <KarlosII> topyli: ummm
[10:32] <plagiats> Kyle_, sudo update-rc.d -f hotplug
[10:32] <battalion> where gnome terminl? i only see root terminal and terminal?
[10:32] <KarlosII> plagiats: thats for reading on the same hdd not on diff computer
[10:32] <tebat> battalion: i'm pretty sure it's just terminal
[10:32] <nekostar> how can i kill and restart my panels w/o signing out of my acct?
[10:32] <battalion> oo kk lol
[10:32] <plagiats> KarlosII, you are right.
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> battalion, gnome-terminal is just called terminal in the Application menu.
[10:33] <battalion> k
[10:33] <ColonelPanique> nekostar : sudo killall -HUP gnome-panel
[10:33] <topyli> KarlosII: i really don't have any shares on windows computers and probably never will. so i don't know how windows networking really works. i just know how to connect them to unix boxen as clients :)
[10:33] <nekostar> thanx ColonelPanique
[10:33] <battalion> so i'm in the directory now wat, do i run something?
[10:34] <nekostar> what does the -HUP mean?
[10:34] <tebat> battalion: what are you trying to do?
[10:34] <Kyle_> mwe, the boot process totally stalls out
[10:34] <KarlosII> lol
[10:34] <ColonelPanique> nekostar : Hangup...it's a signal to the application which tells it to restart and re-read configuration files, etc...
[10:34] <Kyle_> I'm not sure what actually happens
[10:34] <mwe> nekostar: it's the signal, hangup. read man kill
[10:34] <Jrex-Linux> I'm sorry, I just don't get it, why wont it let me run system settings programs, like "Login Screen Setup"?
[10:35] <mwe> Kyle_: but it hangs at hotplug?
[10:35] <nekostar> thanx
[10:35] <plagiats> battalion, just in case you need to run an application quickly without looking for it in the menus (like a terminal) : You can launch applications using alt+f2 then entering name of the app. That said you can use xterm instead of gnome-terminal : it's much faster.
[10:35] <Kyle_> mwe, yeah
[10:35] <butcherbird> Jrex-Linux: should be prompting for a password yes?
[10:35] <fizzle> hey how do i record sshit in ubuntu off my microphone
[10:35] <Kyle_> it was suggested that I disable PCMCIA, but there is no option in the BIOS
[10:35] <Toba> how can I disable the sshd from starting on boot?
[10:35] <Toba> it looks like upgrading to 5.10 turned it on
[10:35] <yaaar> anybody have expertise on the cd autoloading feature in gnome? i'm having the weirdest stuff happen
[10:35] <Toba> I don't want it
[10:35] <yaaar> video dvd's autoload properly if the last cd in the drive was a data cd or a properly-autoloaded dvd. but if the last cd in the drive was a blank cdr, they get autoloaded as a blank disc.
[10:35] <yaaar> and if one loads blank because of that, swapping it with another dvd produces the same results. also see this problem if i boot with a dvd in the drive
[10:36] <bshumate> Toba: System > Administration > Services
[10:36] <yaaar> swapping for a data cd and back to the dvd fixes it...until the next time i put a blank cd in the drive.
[10:36] <Toba> thanks bshumate
[10:36] <mwe> Kyle_: in that case it might not be a bad idea to diable it. can you boot in single user mode (rescue)
[10:36] <Jrex-Linux> butcherbird, it is not prompting for a password
[10:36] <battalion> i'm trying to install gaim, im up to the part where i just typed "./configure" and some stuff showed up
[10:36] <mwe> Kyle_: however I'd enable again when I found the problem
[10:36] <fizzle> which program do i use to capture sound from my sound card
[10:36] <Seveas> battalion, apt-get install gaim
[10:36] <butcherbird> Jrex-Linux: if u type 'sudo gdmsetup &' does it come up?
[10:37] <Seveas> don't compile it manually
[10:37] <Kyle_> mwe, well, that's the plan
[10:37] <Jrex-Linux> "Failed to run gdmsetup as user root:
[10:37] <Jrex-Linux>  Child terminated with 1 status"
[10:37] <mwe> battalion: sudo apt-get install gaim works
[10:37] <battalion> kk
[10:37] <Jrex-Linux> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo gdmsetup &
[10:37] <Jrex-Linux> sudo: must be setuid root
[10:37] <Jrex-Linux> [1]  20735
[10:37] <Jrex-Linux> [1]    Exit 1                  sudo gdmsetup
[10:37] <fizzle> which program do i use to capture sound from my sound card
[10:37] <Kyle_> mwe, what should I use to disable it if I do get into rescue mode?
[10:38] <Kyle_> which command?
[10:38] <butcherbird> Jrex-Linux: is this the original account you created at install or a new one?
[10:38] <ColonelPanique> regul8!
[10:38] <fizzle> which program do i use to capture sound from my sound card
[10:38] <cdownie> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to use a second (unformatted) SATA hd in my computer. can someone pm me and offer assistance? thanks.
[10:38] <CodenameKT> who here prefers ubuntu over slackware now?
[10:38] <Marc_D> Anyone here know anything about Steam?  I cant install it via cedega...
[10:38] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, your sudo is broken.
[10:38] <CodenameKT> well for a desktop
[10:38] <mwe> Kyle_: boot from a live cd I guess
[10:38] <Seveas> and NEVER paste in here
[10:38] <TengkSA> okay can someone here please help me install AMSN i got no idea how to install anything on UBUNTU unless im using synaptics
[10:39] <CodenameKT> what did u use before ubuntu debian?
[10:39] <Seveas> TengkSA, you can install amsn via synaptic
[10:39] <Kyle_> mwe, thanks, I'll give this a shot.
[10:39] <battalion> i don't kn if it worked or what this is wat it said after "sudo apt-get install gaim" apt-get install gaimReading package lists... Done
[10:39] <battalion> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:39] <battalion> gaim is already the newest version.
[10:39] <battalion> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:39] <Marc_D> ffs, what is a win32 sharing violation?
[10:39] <mwe> Kyle_: then mount the partition and chmod -x /etc/init.d/hotplug to disable it temporarely
[10:40] <Seveas> Marc_D, something completely irrelevant to Ubuntu...
[10:40] <fizzle> which program do i use to capture sound from my sound card
[10:40] <Seveas> fizzle, audacity
[10:40] <Marc_D> Seveas, it's not irrelivant, because i keep getting it when i try to install steam
[10:41] <plagiats> battalion, gaim is already installed
[10:41] <B1zz> qhy is it when i run a game (chromium) it works fine but i get no sound but I do get sound using Xmmms for example
[10:41] <plagiats> you can launch it by pres... oh wtf
[10:41] <chunkymonkey> how can gaim be accessed if it is installed?
[10:41] <mwe> B1zz: maybe esd is blocking oss access
[10:42] <plagiats> you can launch it by pres.
[10:42] <moodog> evening all.
[10:42] <chunkymonkey> sry for the copy paste i was unaware that its not allowed
[10:42] <plagiats> you can launch it by pressing alt+f2 and entering gaim
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> chunkymonkey, Applications > Internet > Gaim, or gaim as the command.
[10:42] <Seveas> chunkymonkey, applications -> internet -> gaim
[10:42] <plagiats> menus are useless and confusing !
[10:42] <Seveas> chunkymonkey, and you should always read the topic when entering a channel
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Do you have to manually remove those all the time, or are they set to time out eventually?
[10:43] <mwe> B1zz: sorry I don't use gnome. I just read about esd claiming exclusive rights for the sound system. ask someone else
[10:43] <petz> hi everybody, my kde is unable to startup, anyone help me?
[10:43] <GnarlyBob> I'm attempting to login on kdm, but when I try (either my user or root, which I've enabled login for), kdm blanks and restarts, with the following message in .xsession-errors: "No profile for user 'user' found."
[10:43] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, manually
[10:43] <ColonelPanique> plagiats : yeah! just memorize everything a restaurant offers! ;-)
[10:43] <GnarlyBob> any ideas?
[10:43] <plagiats> ColonelPanique, that's my job !!
[10:44] <GnarlyBob> hugely massively frustrated that ubuntu did not install "out of the box" on this off-the-shelf HP machine
[10:44] <butcherbird> GnarlyBob: id say root login has to be enabled in your login manager but dunno how w/kdm
[10:44] <chunkymonkey> k everyoe thanks for helping my install gaim i love you all :)
[10:44] <sda3mon> umm....(video) hardware acceleration isn't enabled by default under ubuntu right? how do i enable it? i have an nvidia card using the free nv driver...it's just that dragging a window can use 100% of my GHz system
[10:44] <Marc_D> Gnarley, do you have an install disk with an iso on it?
[10:44] <Jrex-Linux> Ok, I was told by Seveas that my sudo is broken, how do I fix it?
[10:44] <GnarlyBob> butcherbird: has nothing to do with root, same thing happens on regular user. (I've enabled root login in any case.)
[10:44] <plagiats> GnarlyBob, ctrl+alt+f1 log as user and sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde
[10:44] <ColonelPanique> GnarlyBob : you seeme to be in here every week being hugely frustrated about Ubuntu. What's new? ;-)
[10:44] <GnarlyBob> ok, thanks plagiats, I will try that
[10:45] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, login in recoverymode and do chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo
[10:45] <plagiats> wait! !
[10:45] <plagiats> to come back : ctrl+alt+F7
[10:45] <GnarlyBob> ColonelPanique: I've only been using ubuntu on this machine for a week, and am still unable to actually USE it
[10:45] <Jrex-Linux> How do I "login in recoverymode"
[10:45] <sda3mon> ctrl+f7
[10:45] <sda3mon> i mean alt+f7 lol
[10:45] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, reboot, choose recovery mode from the boot menu
[10:45] <Jrex-Linux> ah ok
[10:45] <GnarlyBob> plagiats: yeah, thanks.. (12 years hardcore linux experience, sick of tinkering, which is why I chose ubuntu... but I'm tinkering more than ever just to get it *working*)
[10:45] <Jrex-Linux> Thank you, Seveas
[10:46] <ColonelPanique> GnarlyBob : you'll get there, buddy you'll get there! ;-)
[10:46] <GnarlyBob> at this point, I'm pretty close to "getting there" by dropping ubuntu like a bad habit and going back to gentoo
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> heh - ubuntu has been a rather trivial to get going disrto for my box's
[10:46] <ghb> How do you set up the WLAN with encryption? Without encryption it's working fine, but with I just don't get any connection. What to do?
[10:46] <GnarlyBob> but I just don't want my machine to be tied up X hours a day compiling shit.
[10:46] <GnarlyBob> err stuff, sorry about the language.
[10:46] <sda3mon> eh ill just google this hardware acceleration stuff, i was worried about getting old useless info though...
[10:46] <ColonelPanique> GnarlyBob : if you actually had *any* "hardcore linux experince" you'd have it working! ;-)
[10:46] <topyli> GnarlyBob: if it doesn't work, file a big slew of bugs
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> bug report : 'it dont work'
[10:47] <GnarlyBob> ColonelPanique: I don't *feel* like hacking drivers
[10:47] <topyli> bugs against non-working shit
[10:47] <GnarlyBob> and I shouldn't have to with this distribution that's supposed to be the most "out-of-the-box" distro out there
[10:47] <GnarlyBob> but it's built on debian, so I guess much of this is par for the course
[10:48] <ColonelPanique> GnarlyBob : Ubuntu GNU/Linux is no different than any other.  You must choose your hardware carefully. Failure to pay attention when selecting your hardware cannot be blamed on the system later. ;-)
[10:48] <ghb> Is there anyway to select what bit-encryption you're using?
[10:48] <lsuactiafner> GnarlyBob : just disable what you dont want or need in ubuntu, install build-essentials, run apt-get build-dep mplayer and compile what you want and dont want packages for
[10:48] <KarlosII> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba <--- when it asks for system_username what username is it asking for? your login id to gnome?
[10:48] <GnarlyBob> ColonelPanique: but it *is* different. It's a debian-based distro, which makes it very debian-like, which is a *bad* thing to anybody who wants to use it for anything more than tinkering
[10:48] <lsuactiafner> GnarlyBob : i moved over from slackware, took some hacking to get it working like i was used to but in the end i think i made a good move
[10:49] <butcherbird> GnarlyBob: just curious..hp laptop? we've had a ton of problems supporting them after rolling out a few thousand at work
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu is updated often enough so hassles and problems are sorted out in due time
[10:49] <hikenboot> hello i have a ubuntu system and a fedora image file mounted as /fedora i installed rpm into ubuntu and would like to install an rpm into the fedora image
[10:49] <Seveas> hikenboot, then go to #fedora
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> GnarlyBob : and hoary didnt even bootup, had to ssh into a gentoo boxen and compile a kernel, but it was worth a few hours effort
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> butcherbird, Know anything about compatibility for an HP Pavillion DV4150us laptop?
[10:50] <GnarlyBob> butcherbird: HP desktop
[10:50] <sda3mon> uhhh okay google isn't helping much on this...anybody know where to start looking for info on enabling graphics acceleration in ubuntu? as in letting my video card use its processor as much as possible
[10:50] <pysiak> hello :-)
[10:50] <GnarlyBob> very new, 945G chipset
[10:50] <Seveas> sda3mon, which card?
[10:50] <Kyral> !sources
[10:50] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:50] <decept1creep> does the ubuntu kernel not support ntfs?
[10:50] <sda3mon> nvidia geforce mx 4000
[10:50] <tebat> can anyone help me configure a printer on a network?
[10:50] <GnarlyBob> the install/livecd wouldn't even *boot*
[10:50] <Seveas> GnarlyBob, probably no drivers yet I guess
[10:50] <binarydigit> decept1creep: you cant read from ntfs partitions
[10:50] <tebat> on a windows network actually
[10:50] <topyli> decept1creep: it reads them
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  best to check the laptop wiki/forum section..  Very New laptops can be a hassle..
[10:50] <Seveas> GnarlyBob, tried a dapper flight 2?
[10:50] <binarydigit> er
[10:50] <binarydigit> can*
[10:50] <GnarlyBob> had to pass acpi garbage at the kernel
[10:51] <mwe> !tell sda3mon about nvidia
[10:51] <pysiak> are there backports of xorg7 for breezey?
[10:51] <lsuactiafner> decept1creep : no kernel supports ntfs writing, but it should support reading
[10:51] <Seveas> pysiak, no, never will be
[10:51] <butcherbird> tonyyarusso: sorry no
[10:51] <decept1creep> oh snap
[10:51] <GnarlyBob> Seveas: no, I haven't, but I'm really loathe to install yet another try just to be able to do the coding I need to do, and I *really* can't see myself putting windoze back on this machine
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis, Didn't see anything.  It's a brand-new one, a friend's, wondering how it would do.
[10:51] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, ntfsprogs from dapper support writing to ntf via fuse :)
[10:51] <topyli> pysiak: i can't think of a reason. someone probably has built some
[10:51] <sda3mon> mwe: thank you
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  yea - it can be an issue.. my CompaqV2311 had like no luinux support.. till Ubuntu 5.10 came out and fixed a lot of issues..
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  best bet - try the various live cd's for a test.
[10:52] <GnarlyBob> (interestingly enough, if I use gdm and choose KDE as the desktop to login to, I get KDE. If I use KDM, I can't start KDE.)
[10:52] <Seveas> GnarlyBob, with extremely new hardware you always run the risk of things not working.
[10:52] <jenda-busy> Is there a way to count the number of times a certain pattern appears in a text file?
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis, Okay.
[10:52] <apokryphos> GnarlyBob: well, what's the error message?
[10:52] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, recoverymode and 'chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo' did not fix my sudo
[10:52] <cdownie> is there an easy way to partition an unformatted disk after ubuntu has been installed?
[10:52] <purpleheart_USMC> Anyone get the linux journal or another magazine?
[10:52] <GnarlyBob> I'm attempting to login on kdm, but when I try (either my user or root, which I've enabled login for), kdm blanks and restarts, with the following message in .xsession-errors: "No profile for user 'user' found."
[10:52] <GnarlyBob> (to answer apokryphos' question)
[10:52] <Seveas> jenda-busy, if it does not appear more than once per line: grep pattern file | wc -l
[10:53] <ZiX> hi guys do you know a graphical irc client that's better than x-chat?
[10:53] <apokryphos> GnarlyBob: your username is "user"?
[10:53] <jenda-busy> Seveas: Danke :)
[10:53] <tebat> i need some help connecting to a printer on a windows network.
[10:53] <apokryphos> ZiX: kvirc 8)
[10:53] <pat> Can anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that? I've seen a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Where can I make modifications?
[10:53] <GnarlyBob> no, the actual message had my username in it :)
[10:53] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, recoverymode and 'chmod +s /usr/bin/sudo' did not fix my sudo
[10:53] <lsuactiafner> thanks Seveas
[10:53] <GnarlyBob> I just replaced it in here.
[10:53] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, then you messed it up pretty bad
[10:53] <apokryphos> GnarlyBob: you deleted your user profile?
[10:53] <pysiak> Ok, thanks. I heard ubuntu has a stable development cycle, ie. every once a while there is a release, where can I read on such things like: when's the next release, what will it consist of ?
[10:53] <GnarlyBob> apokryphos: what user profile?
[10:53] <apokryphos> GnarlyBob: pretty much guaranteed to be a recipe for disaster
[10:53] <Jrex-Linux> What could I have possibly done?
[10:53] <GnarlyBob> I didn't delete anything that I'm aware of
[10:53] <ZiX> apokryphos: and not for KDE
[10:53] <ZiX> :o
[10:53] <Amaranth> pat: sudo gedit
[10:53] <damnhil> I am using ubuntu5.04hoary. If I install openoffice2.0, will the old openoffice1.1 be removed?
[10:53] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, put the output of ls -l /usr/bin/sudo on the pastebin
[10:53] <ZiX> hi guys do you know a GTK irc client that's better than x-chat?
[10:54] <apokryphos> GnarlyBob: your user details
[10:54] <Amaranth> pat: then open the menu.lst file in gedit
[10:54] <Seveas> damnhil, yes, but OO.o2 from hoary is a really old beta
[10:54] <damnhil> ZiX, I could find any
[10:54] <sda3mon> eh im still having that problem with like the graphical sudo (i guess thats what i should call it) under gnome :/...su/sudo command-line works fine but this whole "Please enter your password to run /usr/sbin/..." thing is not working, says "Wrong password" which i know is bull
[10:54] <apokryphos> ZiX: why? It's actually more Qt than anything; it can (and is in Windoze) built without kde libs.
[10:54] <Seveas> damnhil, you'd better upgrade to breezy
[10:54] <GnarlyBob> apokryphos: I don't understand. I still exist as a user, I can login via any other means besides KDM
[10:54] <topyli> pysiak: the ubuntu wiki has development pages. you'll be interested in gnome 2.14 development as well, since ubuntu will have it
[10:54] <binarydigit> GnarlyBob: see http://edevelop.org/node/1601 , see if that helps
[10:54] <Seveas> ZiX, xchat-gnome :)
[10:54] <ZiX> apokryphos: what's kvirc kinda client, then?
[10:54] <apokryphos> GnarlyBob: have you tried reinstalling kdm?
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> in the past 3 weeks did nvidia release a new video driver?
[10:54] <damnhil> Seveas, how can I upgrade from hoary to breezy? is that possible?
[10:54] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, tell me about pastebin again, I forgot the url
[10:55] <apokryphos> ZiX: Qt, as I said. It can be built with kde libs
[10:55] <Seveas> !tell damnhil about breezy
[10:55] <Seveas> !tell Jrex-Linux about pastebin
[10:55] <pat> Amaranth, what do you mean with 'sudo'?
[10:55] <GnarlyBob> apokryphos: no, I haven't... it was installed as part of the kubuntu-desktop package (the kde 3.5 one)
[10:55] <sda3mon> is there a sudoers list for the GUI sudo thingy???
[10:55] <ZiX> xchat-gnome? oO
[10:55] <pysiak> topyli : thanks:-)
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> lsuactiafner,  i think they did for windows.. not sure about linux.
[10:55] <GnarlyBob> binarydigit: that's similar, but I don't get any locale errors.
[10:55] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6500
[10:55] <GnarlyBob> Only the "No profile for user 'chris' found"
[10:55] <apokryphos> GnarlyBob: might be worth it; do sudo apt-get remove --purge kdm && sudo apt-get install kdm
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> seems they did
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-8178/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[10:56] <GnarlyBob> apokryphos: I'll try that, was hoping to avoid it
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> was on holiday
[10:56] <ZiX> Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
[10:56] <ZiX> Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar
[10:56] <ZiX> De volgende pakketten zullen VERWIJDERD worden:
[10:56] <ZiX>   ubuntu-desktop xchat xchat-common
[10:56] <ZiX> De volgende NIEUWE pakketten zullen genstalleerd worden:
[10:56] <ZiX>   xchat-gnome
[10:56] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, OMFG, did you do a sudo chown in /usr or /usr/bin ?!?!
[10:56] <GnarlyBob> the frustration is intense, though... I'm massively disappointed in ubuntu as the "just works" distro
[10:56] <greg> Has anyone installted mySQL on ubuntu 5.10?
[10:56] <ZiX> if i install that.. it will delete whole ubuntu-desktop oO
[10:56] <Jrex-Linux> a wha?
[10:57] <greg> I am  stuck with this error, can anyone help me out.. [test]  ERROR 1130: Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server
[10:57] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, ls -al /usr/bin
[10:57] <Seveas> output on the pastebin
[10:57] <florent> bnsoir
[10:57] <Signifer123> LAMPServer
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> GnarlyBob : it works if you aint expecting it to be like slackware or gentoo ect
[10:57] <Jrex-Linux> its REALLY long
[10:57] <binarydigit> GnarlyBob: linux is still a while away from just works on every system
[10:57] <dos-assassin> I have installed Ares, through the use of wine, and I have even downloaded music with it... but the songs will not show up in the folder and after about 15 minutes of running the program I have so many errors in my terminal that my computer locks up... any help?
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> and if you dont want to do certain non granny tasks
[10:57] <GnarlyBob> binarydigit: no it's not.
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> else you need to hack any linux
[10:58] <Determinist> :P
[10:58] <bshumate> greg: that is a fairly generic mysql error which folks on #mysql may be able to help you with
[10:58] <apokryphos> dos-assassin: why ares? Gnutella network is far superior 8)
[10:58] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, i cannot copy all of it, because it is too long, some moved out of scroll rage
[10:58] <Manifold> How do I disable the screensaver after locking the account?
[10:58] <greg> bshumate: thanks a lot :)
[10:58] <GnarlyBob> binarydigit: it "just worked" with gentoo, I just don't want to be spending all my machine resources compiling needlessly, which is par for the course with gentoo
[10:58] <dos-assassin> I am used to Ares, but in all honesty, I haven't been able to get Gnutella to install on my pc
[10:58] <polytek> ++
[10:58] <binarydigit> i wouldn't call gentoo, just works
[10:58] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && ls -al /usr/bin | python pastebin
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> just worked with the right kernel version and options.. :P
[10:59] <talldave> has anyone got a little time to see if my remote desktop is working?
[10:59] <binarydigit> if i give my mom a gentoo install, things won't just work with her hitting enter a couple of times
[10:59] <topyli> Jrex-Linux: direct it to a file: "ls -a > list.txt". or pipe it to less: "ls -a | less"
[10:59] <Seveas> apokryphos, what do you use for gnutella?
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> All right, so I'm wondering whether I could make something like a Live CD, but on a USB flash drive, just for carting around to pop into other people's computers basically to show them the desktop, a say "See, Linux isn't just a command line".
[10:59] <GnarlyBob> binarydigit: I agree. However, it was much *much* easier to get gentoo installed and running than ubuntu (which is *backwards* imho, gentoo is a tweaker's distro)
[10:59] <apokryphos> Seveas: the one kde app I miss is a kde gnutella client, in fact. These days I just use Frostwire/Limewire or gtk-gnutella
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Problem is, my flash drive is only 256MB.
[10:59] <Usiu> wtf ?? no password for root in Ubuntu ?!?!!?!?!
[11:00] <Usiu> wtf is this ?
[11:00] <apokryphos> !tell Usiu about root
[11:00] <Seveas> !tell Usiu abot root
[11:00] <ghb> I have a wierd problem. My WLAN-card is working and everything, so is my WLAN access point. As long as no encryption is used, everything's fine. But, when I enable encryption, my ubuntu computer can't find the network anymore. Another computer with Windows can, but not my Ubuntu computer. I enter the WEP key, but still nothing... What's wrong here?
[11:00] <apokryphos> Usiu: a superior model
[11:00] <butcherbird> tonyyarusso: damn small linux
[11:00] <apokryphos> Usiu: read what ubotu is sending you.
[11:00] <bshumate> !tell Usiu about RootSudo
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> Any way I can fit the very bare essentials on 256MB?
[11:00] <Seveas> Usiu, read the wikipage ubotu sent you
[11:00] <Seveas> and then come back
[11:00] <HrdwrBoB> ghb: is it a string?
[11:00] <GnarlyBob> if I gave my mom a ubuntu cd (as I got them from ship-it) and she booted, and it hung like it did for me, she'd throw the CD away and continue with windows.
[11:00] <dos-assassin> Alright... so what would you suggest for a good P2P Client and how exactly should I install it?
[11:00] <binarydigit> someone should make a bot that analyzes the chat to see how many questions could be answered through a 10 second search on google or ubuntuforums
[11:00] <HrdwrBoB> ghb: if you are using iwconfig, the syntax for strings is s:stringkey
[11:00] <ghb> HrdwrBoB: ASCII string, you mean? It's hexcode, but I don't know if that's what you're looking for.
[11:00] <HrdwrBoB> otherwise it's in hex
[11:00] <HrdwrBoB> yeah that's what I mean
[11:01] <HrdwrBoB> binarydigit: 90% or so
[11:01] <butcherbird> tonyyarusso: 50 mb
[11:01] <ghb> HrdwrBoB: Oh, well, I use the gui to configure the WLAN. I'll try the iwconfig...
[11:01] <Seveas> binarydigit, people are generally lazy and stupid ;)
[11:01] <binarydigit> HrdwrBoB: definately
[11:01] <apokryphos> dos-assassin: worth trying out frostwire. You can download the rpm from their site and then do: alien frostwirewhatever.rpm and then install the .deb
[11:01] <binarydigit> hah yea i noticed that
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> butcherbird, Thanks.  Would I basically just burn their Live CD onto the flash drive?
[11:01] <Usiu> Seveas, its fucking stupid!
[11:01] <topyli> dos-assassin: apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[11:01] <apokryphos> dos-assassin: first, however, you will want to have sun java. To do that, /msg ubotu javadebs
[11:01] <HrdwrBoB> ghb: it may be that the drivers for your card don't like WEP
[11:01] <apokryphos> Seveas: might be worth hosting a frostwire deb on your repo
[11:01] <butcherbird> tonyyarusso: burn an iso of their livecd and there is a create usb option when u boot it
[11:01] <EdLin> dos-assassin, you should install almost anything via either the "add programs" menu in applications or via synaptic or aptitude
[11:02] <pat> Can anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that?
[11:02] <pat> I've found a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Should I make the modifs in menu.lst or somewhere else? How can I get write access to that file?
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> butcherbird, Even better.
[11:02] <EdLin> dos-assassin,  (the latter two have more programs)
[11:02] <ghb> HrdwrBoB: Hmmm. Well, it works at uni, but I don't know if that's WEP.
[11:02] <pat> Can anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that?
[11:02] <pat> I've found a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Should I make the modifs in menu.lst or somewhere else? How can I get write access to that file?
[11:02] <pat> Can anyone help me with the configuration of the multi bootloader grub? I've installed ubuntu and now after restarting my desktop I get a menu with OS choice and 10 seconds timeout. I would like to change the sequence of the menu items and reduce the timeout. Where can I do that?
[11:02] <pat> I've found a menu.lst file in the bootload directory, but this file is readonly. Should I make the modifs in menu.lst or somewhere else? How can I get write access to that file?
[11:02] <pat> hi
[11:02] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6502
[11:03] <Seveas> sigh
[11:03] <butcherbird> pat: lol hi
[11:03] <HrdwrBoB> !tell pat about sudo
[11:03] <Seveas> as i said, people are stupid
[11:03] <dos-assassin> Ok now I have another question... I have gtk-gnutella 0.95.4 stable... but it says its out of date and apt-get update doesn't work
[11:03] <Manifold> How do I disable the screensaver after locking the account?
[11:03] <apokryphos> pat: spamming/flooding is more likely to just annoy people, as you'll find.
[11:03] <Kindred> :\
[11:03] <nekostar> pat
[11:03] <butcherbird> pat: u need to sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and u can edit it
[11:03] <nekostar> google it lol
[11:03] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, you've done VERY stupid things to your system
[11:03] <nekostar> or do what butcherbird said
[11:03] <topyli> Seveas: whatever happened to usenet? those articles are appearing here :)
[11:03] <Jrex-Linux> :(
[11:04] <ghb> HrdwrBoB: Nope, doesn't work. How do you enter the WEP using iwconfig? I just want to make sure I'm typing it correctly.
[11:04] <Jrex-Linux> I have only done what people have told me to do
[11:04] <ompaul> Seveas, I contend that you are a percentage correct, however the true version reads as follows: there is no accounting for exactly how stupid some people are
[11:04] <sri> does anybody here have a owrking lirc with a serial kernel driver working?
[11:04] <dabaR__> hehe
[11:04] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, is there any way to repair the damage?
[11:04] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, boot back into recovery mode and run this: chown root:root /usr/bin/*
[11:04] <HrdwrBoB> ghb: iwconfig interface essid youressid key YOURKEYINHEX
[11:04] <Jrex-Linux> ok
[11:04] <Manifold> How do I disable the screensaver after locking the account?
[11:05] <Jrex-Linux> Thank you Seveas
[11:05] <ghb> HrdwrBoB: Righto, I forgot the essid. Thought it wouldn't matter, but maybe it does. I'll try that.
[11:05] <Seveas> topyli, ever heard of the september that never ended?
[11:05] <topyli> Seveas: endlessly :)
[11:05] <grogoreo> hi
[11:05] <ompaul> Manifold, the same password as the user
[11:05] <Seveas> then you know the feeling :)
[11:05] <EdLin> Manifold, system > preferences > screensaver
[11:05] <talldave> I have been trying to set up a remote desktop server for hours now and would be greatful f someone could check it out for me
[11:05] <grogoreo> has anyone manged to run aMSN 0.95 on Breezy?
[11:05] <Manifold> Thanks, EdLin
[11:05] <tbw> Anyone got an advice on how to make firefox render better fonts?
[11:05] <tbw> The pages look like crap to me
[11:05] <apokryphos> grogoreo: yup; very easy to setup.
[11:06] <apokryphos> grogoreo: there's just nothing to keep me using it.
[11:06] <topyli> Seveas: i actually try to hang on a few groups on usenet still. it's getting more and more painful though
[11:06] <jenda-busy> !TELL tbw about fonts
[11:07] <ghb> HrdwrBoB: Nope, doesn't work.
[11:07] <Seveas> topyli, see #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:08] <nekostar> !fonts
[11:08] <ubotu> somebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[11:09] <Toba|BSD> http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/fstab.txt
[11:09] <Toba|BSD> anything wrong with that?
[11:09] <dos-assassin> How do you update gtk-gnutella?
[11:09] <notOnyx> greetings all, I'm trying to run ubuntu and am having all kinds of problems 1. getting apt-get going  2. installing ssh (or verifying it is already intstalled) 3. opening port 22
[11:09] <tbw> I wonder what font is used in windows so it looks normal ;)
[11:09] <tbw> Everything is all bold and irriating.
[11:09] <tbw> irritating
[11:09] <Toba|BSD> system -> preferences -> font
[11:10] <notOnyx> to get apt-get going, I'm referncing the ubuntu wiki here:
[11:10] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, what is not happening for you?
[11:10] <notOnyx> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[11:10] <Seveas> notOnyx, ubuntuguide.org sucks
[11:10] <ompaul> !guide
[11:10] <ubotu> ompaul: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:10] <Jrex-Linux> *sigh*
[11:10] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[11:10] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:11] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, it did not work
[11:11] <tbw> well
[11:11] <tbw> San Serif is muc nicer ;)
[11:11] <Toba|BSD> ompaul: nothing, it mounts ok
[11:11] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, did it give an error?
[11:11] <Toba|BSD> but it complains about the auto filesystem type detection
[11:11] <notOnyx> thanks
[11:11] <ghb> There's something I find really annoying: Whenever I'm closing the lid, I have to enter my login password. I want to disable it, how do I do that?
[11:11] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, so why the question, and have you removed the second ide harddrive?
[11:11] <Jrex-Linux> I got the same error when trying to log into sudo in terminal
[11:11] <Toba|BSD> ompaul: yes, /dev/hdb1 is no longer there
[11:12] <Toba|BSD> my question is now to make it stop complaining and saying it fails on boot
[11:12] <Toba|BSD> it says that it failed to mount /dev/hdd
[11:12] <Toba|BSD> but it does mount
[11:12] <Jrex-Linux> sudo: must be setuid root
[11:12] <Toba|BSD> it's cosmetic I guess, but I don't like stuff even saying it fails
[11:12] <SEJeff> ghb: it uses sudo to shutdown and run the hibernate / suspend scripts. You can disable sudo for asking for passwords
[11:12] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin; ls -al /usr/bin | python pastebin
[11:12] <Seveas> try that one again
[11:13] <Jrex-Linux> it says saved
[11:13] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, I see no
[11:13] <ghb> SEJeff: Can't I just disable it from going into hibernate? What's the difference between stand-by and hibernate, anyway?
[11:13] <Seveas> which url does it give?
[11:13] <Jrex-Linux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6503
[11:13] <Toba|BSD> brb, rebooting
[11:13] <gnomefreak> sorry Seveas all you had to do was ask
[11:13] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, the clue is in my /home :) read this and see if you get it in a min if not ask >>>/dev/hda10      /home           ext3    defaults        0       2<< and it is not the 2
[11:14] <SEJeff> hibernate: write data to disk, recognize and boot from that data once computer is turned back on. suspend: data in ram is saved and computer goes into low power mode
[11:14] <mateusz> Hi I have a problem with ubuntu after setting a password my network stoped working.. I cant do anything.. I get yenta innterput and irq11 error.. why ? it happens when I try to do sth with connection..
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> Can I boot from an ISO on the hard disk?
[11:14] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I gave up on asking, in 99% of the cases it does not help. Don't take it too personal :)
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Seveas, im sorry didnt know it bothered people
[11:15] <notOnyx> i want to update my apt-get to be pointed to the right place to successfully run  apt-get install firestarter
[11:15] <notOnyx> how can I do this?
[11:15] <ompaul> gnomefreak, #ubuntu-offtopic for a sec :)
[11:15] <notOnyx> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto?highlight=%28apt%29  ain't helping
[11:15] <mateusz> Any ideas ??
[11:15] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, hmm, it's even more fucked up then I thought...
[11:15] <CodyDH> Hi! Does anyone have any ideas how well a Pentium M Dell D800 would be supported under Ubuntu 5.10? I am talking about suspend when you close the lid, and power stepping
[11:15] <Jrex-Linux> eek
[11:15] <Jrex-Linux> What have I done?
[11:15] <ghb> SEJeff: Ok, well, I would like it to stand-by, but never to hibernate... I hate hibernation. =)
[11:15] <binarydigit> CodyDH: power stepping should be fine
[11:16] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, write the following command down, boot into recoerymode and execute it
[11:16] <binarydigit> dont know about suspend
[11:16] <Jrex-Linux> ok
[11:16] <joseph> what version of gnome does ubuntu have?
[11:16] <dos-assassin> After downloading the new gtk-gnutella I have it on my desktop in .deb format... but it won't install
[11:16] <tbw> Anyone know what I have to do to configure WPA
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> !tell notOnyx about universe
[11:16] <notOnyx> thanks tony :)
[11:16] <CodyDH> binarydigit, Ok... I'm considering trying Ubuntu over my FC4 install if it does better on here as far as actually using it as a laptop. Otherwise it's XP for me.
[11:16] <skon> CodyH: many laptops have problems with the laptop lid under ubuntu, not sure if there is aworkaround at this time
[11:16] <crimsun> tbw: there are two files you have to edit, /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[11:16] <Stew_Lappy> CodyDH  - I got a Dell Inspiron 6000 - all that works fine for me
[11:16] <mateusz> I've installed ubuntu 5.10 and I have toshiba tecra8000 and my network card doesnt work.. any help here ?
[11:16] <mateusz> ?
[11:16] <CodyDH> Stew_Lappy, How'd you get the lid thing to work?
[11:16] <butcherbird> CodyDH: best bet would be to try the livecd before install
[11:16] <tbw> crimsun: No GUI to do it?
[11:16] <SealyDave> anybody know a slax irc
[11:16] <decept1creep> maniconfig
[11:16] <binarydigit> CodyDH: suspend and hibernate are one of those iffy things under linux
[11:16] <crimsun> tbw: nope.
[11:17] <Seveas> chmod u+s cardinfo chfn chsh fping fping6 gpasswd lppasswd newgrp passwd pmount pumount sudo
[11:17] <decept1creep> i tihnk
[11:17] <kemik> is arts better than alsa/esd etc ?
[11:17] <tbw> crimsun: I need to move back and forth between WEP and WPA
[11:17] <CodyDH> Also, any suggestions on partitioning my 20GB partition? I want a separate home partition...
[11:17] <binarydigit> you usually have to do some hacking to get them to work right
[11:17] <crimsun> kemik: arts _uses_ alsa if you configure it thusly
[11:17] <tbw> crimsun: Is it easy to define which to use by which access points are available?
[11:17] <mateusz> crimsun: ?
[11:17] <kemik> crimsun:  ah, so arts is a sort of wrapper ?
[11:17] <CodyDH> binarydigit, OK... insofar I've found no solutions under Fedora, so I was hoping Ubuntu might have better support out of the box.
[11:17] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, see private message for more commands you need
[11:18] <crimsun> tbw: yes, you'll need to use a mapping directive in /etc/network/interfaces. You'll probably want to map via the essid. man 5 interfaces.
[11:18] <EdLin> crimsun, arts is a sound daemon, like esd
[11:18] <tbw> crimsun: k
[11:18] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, what private message?
[11:18] <Jrex-Linux> nm
[11:18] <KarlosII_> topyli: all that trouble becase of a software firewall issue :/
[11:18] <TengkSA> Can someone please help me with boot settings I installed ubuntu after windows and now windows isnt listed in boot options when i boot up.
[11:18] <crimsun> EdLin: I think you misaddressed that.
[11:18] <ompaul> Jrex-Linux, from the bot
[11:19] <EdLin> crimsun, sorry. :-(
[11:19] <kemik> i saw the answer tho :)
[11:19] <topyli> KarlosII: oh :)
[11:19] <Some_Body> hm, what's the exact location of ndiswrapper in breezy?
[11:19] <kemik> TengkSA:  sudo fdisk -l
[11:19] <Jrex-Linux> ompaul, no, he is PMing me himself
[11:19] <TengkSA> ompaul hallo :P how was shopping
[11:19] <kemik> TengkSA:  lets hope you didnt overwrite your windows partition :|
[11:20] <TengkSA> no i never did
[11:20] <ompaul> TengkSA, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:20] <EdLin> kemik, ALSA isn't a sound daemon, it's how the kernel talks to the hardware, like what it replaces (but has backwards compatability with), OSS
[11:20] <ompaul> Jrex-Linux, no comment :)
[11:20] <kemik> EdLin:  yeah, but esd and arts are sound-daemons as you said ;)
[11:21] <EdLin> kemik, yep
[11:21] <Toba|BSD> ompaul: could you look at http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/fstab.txt and http://toba.ath.cx:724/~eastein/mountfail.jpg?
[11:21] <dos-assassin> Ok I installed the program... but it says I am firewalled... how do I change this?
[11:21] <jose__> is there a non nonfree apt to open rar archives?
[11:21] <thegladiator> my nautilus is dead
[11:21] <EdLin> kemik, personally I hate sound daemons. Though I hear jackd is decent, but poorly supported.
[11:21] <thegladiator> what do I do now ?
[11:21] <TengkSA> kemik what do i do after that command
[11:21] <crimsun> jose__: unrar-nonfree
[11:21] <kemik> sound really is FUBAR in linux :(
[11:21] <kemik> TengkSA:  see if there were any windows partitions listed
[11:21] <benplaut> anyone know how to stream audio from npr.org? it's in .WAX format
[11:22] <jose__> is there a          non nonfree             apt to open rar archives?
[11:22] <crimsun> kemik: depending on one's hardware, it can be. Thankfully we have audio developers present.
[11:22] <thegladiator> nautilus just doesnt start
[11:22] <crimsun> jose__: not one that can open all rars.
[11:22] <pixelmonkey> why is it that when I plug in a USB Disk drive formatted as FAT32, it automounts and I can create folders and add files to it, but when I insert the same disk formatted as ext3, I can't have write access to it (though it still automounts)
[11:22] <thegladiator> can someone tell me what do i now ?
[11:22] <Delvien> Anyone get VMWARE running under the 2.6.15-10-386
[11:22] <Delvien>  Dapper kernal?
[11:22] <TengkSA> one says HPFS/NTFS i presume that is windows
[11:22] <ilpavox> why does top tell me that 50% of my cpu is free when there is a ps in the running that claims to be using 75% of the cpu?
[11:22] <jose__> i c
[11:22] <kemik> crimsun:  well, i have to wait for an updated version of Skype i think, if i am to be able to use skype whilst playing mp3 in beep/rhythm etc..
[11:22] <topyli> thegladiator: run nautilus from a terminal and see the error messages
[11:23] <crimsun> kemik: that's correct.
[11:23] <TengkSA> kemik: hpfs ntfs
[11:23] <marcin`> whooooa I'm in shock!!!
[11:23] <kemik> TengkSA:  mmh, probably :) make not of which hdXY it is
[11:23] <TengkSA> i dont understand
[11:23] <thegladiator> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[11:23] <thegladiator> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[11:23] <tbw> Does this support WPA2 ?
[11:23] <pschulz01> I have just installed Ubuntu )Breezy) on an IBM x206 server... all OK so far, but what tape backup software do people use/recommend?
[11:23] <marcin`> finally after YEARS gnome developers implemented Shift+Delete in Nautilus...
[11:23] <thegladiator> this error comes up like a infinite loop
[11:24] <crimsun> tbw: yes, but it may be problematic. You'll want Dapper's source version if you want stable WPA2 support.
[11:24] <ScootaDoota> tape backup = tar
[11:24] <TengkSA> kemik i dont understand
[11:24] <thegladiator> what use marcin` :)
[11:24] <kemik> TengkSA:  understand what ?
[11:24] <thegladiator> me too
[11:24] <topyli> thegladiator: i would delete or move the .nautilus directory
[11:24] <thegladiator> nautilus is just crap
[11:24] <TengkSA> make not of which hdxy is
[11:24] <pschulz01> ScootaDoota: GUI?
[11:24] <pixelmonkey> do I need to be a member of the disk group or something?
[11:24] <tbw> crimsun: maybe I'll just drop my home network back to WEP
[11:24] <thegladiator> lemm give a try
[11:24] <tbw> crimsun: and move on w/ my life ;)
[11:24] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, what are you actually running because the sda to me should only pop into existance with hotplug in my mind
[11:24] <topyli> thegladiator: then you'll get a clean environment for it (hopefully)
[11:24] <kemik> TengkSA:  you should make  a not of which /dev/hdXY that the ntfs/hpfs partition has
[11:25] <kemik> TengkSA:  it tells you which HD and partition number it is
[11:25] <crimsun> tbw: WPA2 works fine; I use it myself.
[11:25] <TengkSA> kemik: yes but how do i do this
[11:25] <kemik> TengkSA:  write it down on a paper?
[11:25] <pschulz01> ScootaDoota: I have used 'mtx' in the past.. and have heard 'amada' mentioned as well
[11:25] <kemik> TengkSA:  or just rememberit =)
[11:25] <lucasvo> hey folks: some offtopic, but what do you think of: http://wservices.ch/~lucas/ablage/webdef_2.png as a webdesign?
[11:25] <Delvien> How do reinstall a version of a kernal (IE 2.6.15-9-386)
[11:25] <TengkSA> kemik: how do i make a not
[11:25] <tbw> crimsun: Well, I'm in Toronto for the holiday, when I get back to Indiana I'll have to look you up so I can get WPA2 working right ;0
[11:26] <kemik> TengkSA:  oh.. "note" :)
[11:26] <crimsun> tbw: I'm the maintainer for it. Look in the changelog if you need to e-mail me.
[11:26] <TengkSA> ohhhh okay ive done this
[11:26] <TengkSA> that
[11:26] <thegladiator> topyli, how do i delete the folder in terminal?
[11:26] <tbw> crimsun: Awesome, thanks.
[11:26] <odla> is there a libdvdcss2 package available for amd64?
[11:26] <spola> is it possible to make "files" that are really tcp/ip connections?
[11:26] <mateusz> Seveas: I have never seen the worst project it was the biggest mistake in my life, the biggest waste of time.. no mc in default instalation, no xorgconfig!, xorg splited in many packages who thought it would be cool ?? network card doesnt work..
[11:26] <TengkSA> kemik okay done
[11:26] <crimsun> spola: expand.
[11:26] <apokryphos> odla: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <topyli> thegladiator: better to move it, not delete. mv .nautilus .nautilus-svass
[11:27] <EdLin> spola, it's possible, but it's better to deal with network stuff using sockets
[11:27] <odla> apokryphos: but it's a script that must be run not a package
[11:27] <topyli> thegladiator: then killall nautilus to be safe, then run nautilus
[11:27] <TengkSA> kemik now what
[11:27] <marcin`> thegladiator: I agree that nautilus is crap - and I use mc and dired in emacs..
[11:27] <Toba|BSD> ompaul: yeah, somebody else already pointed out that /dev/sda should not be in my fstab
[11:27] <kemik> TengkSA:  or maybe just try to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:27] <apokryphos> odla: the script comes in a package
[11:27] <Toba|BSD> I removed it and now it looks like things are going ok
[11:27] <ScootaDoota> pschulz:...... I always use tar and crontab, but amanda is good and makes it easy to do network backups....but tar and cron are very simple to use
[11:27] <notOnyx> are very, very slow rebooting load times typical with ubuntu?
[11:27] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, the question was what are you running?
[11:28] <thegladiator> and after that shud i quit x and log back ?
[11:28] <odla> apokryphos: i have the package but it seems like the script didn't work
[11:28] <Seveas> stupid ban avoiding mofo
[11:28] <thegladiator> this error message nautilus is still hanging
[11:28] <spola> well, im writing some scripts in bash and i'd like to redirect the log to a socket
[11:28] <pschulz01> ScootaDoota: BRU is mentioned as well.
[11:28] <marcin`> thegladiator: but I just copied some files from cd with nautilus and hit shift+del 'automatically'
[11:28] <TengkSA> kemik: okay ta
[11:28] <thegladiator> when i give a restart after moing , still it doesnt work
[11:28] <butcherbird> notOnyx: did u format with reiser by any chance?
[11:28] <marcin`> thegladiator: and it worked - I'm still in deep shock :)
[11:28] <spola> well, to another machine really (my backup server)
[11:28] <thegladiator> :)
[11:28] <odla> how do i rip wavs as mp3s?
[11:29] <thegladiator> topyli, shud i restart x ?
[11:29] <EdLin> odla, the program lame
[11:29] <odla> EdLin: is it command line?
[11:29] <ScootaDoota> pschulz01:  are you used to using tape drives under windows?
[11:29] <beerockxs> gtkpod says that the iTunesDB file on my iPod is missing, although the file is not missing.
[11:29] <butcherbird> odla: lame? or audacity will do it i would think
[11:29] <beerockxs> anyone know what might cause that problem?
[11:29] <topyli> thegladiator: is nautilus still madly restarting?
[11:29] <marcin`> thegladiator: I still cannot believe that gnome developers did something that Eugenia and thousand of users asked for few years ago :)
[11:29] <EdLin> odla, yes. There are programs that can act as front ends to it though.
[11:29] <notOnyx> I did the "repartition" format
[11:29] <thegladiator> topyli, yes
[11:29] <notOnyx> butcherbird: I did the "repartition" format
[11:29] <TengkSA> kemik i want to recover windows after installing ubuntu not vice versa
[11:29] <thegladiator> i moved the folder
[11:29] <thegladiator> and clicked on restart nautuils
[11:29] <Toba|BSD> ompaul: ubuntu 5.10
[11:30] <Toba|BSD> sorry about the delay
[11:30] <crimsun> spola: there's an easier solution called sshfs, presuming your backup server runs openssh-server.
[11:30] <thegladiator> topyli, what do you think on reinstalling nautilus ?
[11:30] <thegladiator> using synaptic ?
[11:30] <topyli> log out, delete the .nautilus folder (which probably is recreated by now) in a console and then log back in
[11:30] <spola> crimsun, cool im gonna look into that. thx
[11:30] <TengkSA> kemik will this still work
[11:31] <butcherbird> notOnyx: what point during bootup is taking alot of time?
[11:31] <beerockxs> is there an easy way to install windows as a secondary OS without frying the MBR?
[11:31] <Seveas> crimsun, hehe, sshfs is cool :)
[11:31] <notOnyx> burtcherbird: I boot, I see all the linux stuff scrolling, i get a screen with a mouse cursor I can move but it is black for a good 5 minutes before it pops up a login screen GUI
[11:31] <knight> Howdy! .. Anyone know of a program that will find duplicate songs, and remove them ...
[11:32] <Seveas> beerockxs, by installing windows first...
[11:32] <crimsun> Seveas: indeed :)
[11:32] <butcherbird> notOnyx: hmm havent experienced that.  whats your processor and ram?
[11:32] <Toba|BSD> thanks for your help ompaul
[11:32] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, well you could try it with that hashed out and see if it is available
[11:32] <dtrostis> hello, I've been trying to install the java plugin for firefox 1.5 without success, can someone guide me thru the process?
[11:32] <notOnyx> 2.4 intel + ~1 gig ram
[11:32] <Seveas> crimsun, my mtab once was 20 lines long due to it ;)
[11:32] <beerockxs> Seveas, obviously. But I don't want to reformat
[11:32] <spola> crimsun, this looks sweet
[11:33] <Seveas> beerockxs, then install windows as second os and restore grub
[11:33] <marcin`> dtrostis: do you have java jre or jdk downloaded already?
[11:33] <dtrostis> marcin jre
[11:34] <zool2005> how can I create .deb files from source?
[11:34] <ScootaDoota> pschulz01: is BRU free?  Amanda is a frontend for other tools, so have a lookat that
[11:34] <apokryphos> zool2005: using checkinstall; so configure --prefix=/whatever/prefix && make && sudo checkinstall
[11:34] <Seveas> zool2005, through ah quite complicated process (which is actually very easy once you did it a few times)
[11:34] <marcin`> dtrostis: so you just need to create symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[11:34] <apokryphos> zool2005: to make proper debs is another issue though.
[11:34] <knight> Anyone know of a program that will find duplicate songs, and remove them
[11:34] <fckSeveas> Seveas: UBUNTU IS A FUCKING GARBAGE!!
[11:34] <dtrostis> how the hell you do that marcin?
[11:35] <marcin`> dtrostis: and symlinked file should be libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:35] <zool2005> is it better to install straight from source?
[11:35] <dtrostis> how the hell you do that marcin?
[11:35] <butcherbird> notOnyx: sorry not sure maybe a xorg.conf thing? might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:35] <marcin`> dtrostis: from your [JAVA_HOME] /plugin/i386/ns7
[11:35] <Seveas> sigh
[11:35] <Seveas> more ban avoiding
[11:36] <apokryphos> Seveas: it's his way of expressing his love for you, don't mind him. ;-)
[11:36] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas,
[11:36] <Jrex-Linux> and you want me to delete chown :plugdev pmount <-- scratch this one ?
[11:36] <notOnyx> butcherbird: I just got apt-get working and ssh working, so I'm flying high and configing - I will try that once things are stable, thanks very much for taking the time to answer :)
[11:36] <Seveas> apokryphos, i get tired of such FUCKING STUDPID CRAZY MOTHERFUCKERS
[11:36] <marcin`> dtrostis: do you know how to make symlink?
[11:36] <topyli> zool2005: you can make debs for personal use quite easily with checkinstall
[11:36] <topyli> lol
[11:36] <ilpavox> anyone catch my question?
[11:36] <Jrex-Linux> lol
[11:36] <Manifold> Is there a way to make synaptic show the dapper repositories?
[11:36] <beerockxs> anyone have experience with gtkpod?
[11:36] <dtrostis> whoa whoa whoa marcin, let start fromt eh beginning. I downloades that damn file, now what?
[11:37] <apokryphos> Seveas: don't let them get you down :)
[11:37] <ajmitch> Seveas: you should have let one of us kick you, it would have been more satisfying
[11:37] <zool2005> I like using packaged apps cos its easy to install/uninstall,
[11:37] <Seveas> ajmitch, be my guest :)
[11:37] <dtrostis> I copy the file to the usr dir
[11:37] <zool2005> how easy is it to uninstall apps installed from source?
[11:37] <pysiak> hmm
[11:37] <Seveas> zool2005, make uninstall
[11:37] <Seveas> (from the sourcedir)
[11:37] <apokryphos> zool2005: trivial
[11:37] <zool2005> ah
[11:37] <pysiak> which package contains devel manuals? like man fopen
[11:38] <crimsun> pysiak: manpages-dev
[11:38] <Seveas> pysiak, manpages-dev
[11:38] <pysiak> thanks!
[11:38] <ajmitch> apokryphos: not always
[11:38] <Seveas> manpages-posix-dev is nice too
[11:38] <marcin`> dtrostis: first... write my nick first - this channel moves too fast and I need
[11:38] <Seveas> thegladiator, DO NOT IRC AS ROOT!
[11:38] <thegladiator> sprry there
[11:38] <dtrostis> marcin: I donwloaded the file, now what?
[11:38] <thegladiator> i am fixing a fatal bug
[11:38] <Shadyman> Seveas: Amen
[11:38] <spola> hehe "FunFS is an advanced network file system with a simple goal: to be better than NFS." nice name
[11:38] <marcin`> dtrostis: to see that you write something to me (my irc client highlights messages to me)
[11:38] <apokryphos> we really need to train ubotu to "woo, root has landed"
[11:38] <ITSa341> Help, I installed vmware and now my dvd won't work. It doesn't even show up in <system><administration><disks>
[11:38] <thegladiator> topyli, still no use
[11:39] <mike_> can someone help me set up a WPC11 pcmcia 802.11b nic on ubuntu
[11:39] <marcin`> dtrostis: then - what file you downloaded?
[11:39] <zool2005> I've been using linux for 2 years, gradually picking up things along the way but I've never needed to uninstall from source as I started with Suse, Redhat then Mandriva before moving to Ubuntu
[11:39] <thegladiator> nautilus just doesnt work et all
[11:39] <skon> !wifi
[11:39] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:39] <TengkSA> kemik i am getting an error message
[11:39] <mike_> thanks
[11:39] <Seveas> ITSa341, vmware is neither supported nor supportable by Ubuntu...
[11:39] <ghb> Whenever I use encryption on my WLAN, it doesn't work. But without encryption everything works flawlessly. Do I need new drivers or something? It's an Intel card and apparently no one has had any problems with it. =(
[11:39] <dtrostis> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[11:39] <Manifold> Is there a way to make synaptic show the dapper repositories?
[11:39] <skon> ghb: what type?
[11:39] <topyli> thegladiator: there must be some gconf weirdness going on as well. i wonder how we could kill nautilus properly
[11:39] <dtrostis> marcin' jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[11:39] <ibmnotebook> airsnort doesn't get the WEP password of my LAN, but receives thousands of packages... whats wrong?
[11:39] <ScootaDoota> Ubuntu isn;t supported by vmware
[11:39] <apokryphos> Manifold: why?
[11:39] <ghb> skon: It's called PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[11:39] <TengkSA> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /boot/ busy
[11:39] <thegladiator> weird
[11:39] <TengkSA> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /media/hda2
[11:40] <thegladiator> wat can i do next ?
[11:40] <Manifold> Just wondering.
[11:40] <skon> ghb: what type of encryption
[11:40] <thegladiator> reinstall something ?
[11:40] <ghb> skon: WEP
[11:40] <EdLin> zool2005, have you added the universe and multiverse repositories? If so, there will be lots of programs to choose from.
[11:40] <beerockxs> ScootaDoota, but vmware does work in ubuntu
[11:40] <thegladiator> like reinstall nuatilus ?
[11:40] <skon> ghb: what are you using to connect via WEP?
[11:40] <ITSa341> Seveas   I can deal with that and I can remove vmware but any ideas on getting my dvd working again. I've always been a windows man and don't know where to start tracking it down
[11:40] <ScootaDoota> yes...it may well do...but that doesn't mean vmware support it.
[11:40] <thegladiator> i always dreaded this wud happend someday
[11:40] <thegladiator> nautilus shud never be used on official things
[11:40] <thegladiator> i made a wrong choice
[11:40] <ghb> skon: That WLAN card, and a D-Link 7000 AP. Tried with another laptop, with Windows, and that worked.
[11:41] <ScootaDoota> hence I have a redhat box for vmware stuff
[11:41] <zool2005> yeah, i've added them all but I want to try Wormux (worms clone) which hasn't been released in .deb format yet for the most recent version
[11:41] <skon> ghb: i mean what program are you using to connect
[11:41] <Seveas> ITSa341, no clue, you didn;t give any info so how would you expect us to have a clue :)
[11:41] <zool2005> make uninstall has sorted me anyway, cheers
[11:41] <ITSa341> bummer too since vmware allowed me to install XP and Streets and trips
[11:41] <thegladiator> topyli, can you suggest any fix?
[11:41] <thegladiator> someone please help me
[11:41] <odla> audacity doesn't seem to recognize my music cd i have in my cdrom drive
[11:41] <topyli> not really :(
[11:41] <ghb> skon: Oh... Um... I dunno. iwconfig, you mean? Otherwise I just do a dhclient and open Firefox and off I go.
[11:41] <TengkSA> someone please help i installed ubuntu now and windows doesnt come up in my booting anymore how do i bring it back
[11:41] <EdLin> zool2005, you still want to do that though.
[11:41] <dtrostis> marcin?
[11:41] <odla> but sound juicer does
[11:41] <thegladiator> the nautilus is jut dead
[11:42] <thegladiator> i have no clue to fix it
[11:42] <thegladiator> i removed the.nautilus directory
[11:42] <dtrostis> send marcin' : jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[11:42] <zool2005> add extra repositories?
[11:42] <ITSa341> Seveas  as I stated, I asked for help because I don't know where to start hence I have no idea what info you would need. If I knew where to look I would most likely know how to figure it out myself
[11:42] <Seveas> TengkSA, put thr output of 'sudo fdisk -l' and the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:42] <EdLin> zool2005, yes. You'll have access to over 15,000 programs that way.
[11:42] <skon> ghb: did you try using the gnome network configuration tool?
[11:42] <Seveas> ITSa341, is vmware already uninstalled?
[11:42] <ITSa341> No, it's working but it is unloaded
[11:43] <zool2005> yup, I had to install them to get other bits n bobs, the wiki & other info sources brought me up to date pretty quickly
[11:43] <crimsun> ghb: remember that an ascii passphrase needs quotes in /etc/network/interfaces, but the hex representation doesn't.
[11:43] <Seveas> ITSa341, try rebooting without loading anything related to vmware
[11:43] <TengkSA> seveas can i talk to u in prvt please
[11:43] <ghb> skon: Yeah, that's what I've been using (and iwconfig) and the WEP key is entered and all. But it just can't find the network. It's so strange. I wish I could enter the bit-encryption so I knew how much to type.
[11:43] <Seveas> TengkSA, no, just ask in here
[11:43] <EdLin> zool2005, Oh, OK. Then you know what I'm talking about. :-)
[11:43] <ompaul> TengkSA, did you do as Seveas asked?
[11:43] <thegladiator> guess i will have to remove ubuntu now
[11:43] <thegladiator> damn thing
[11:43] <dtrostis> marcin'
[11:43] <ITSa341> Just did that before I came here bugging you. I do try to avoid asking for help when I can figure it out
[11:43] <ompaul> TengkSA, you must do as he asked at this time
[11:43] <ITSa341> still learning
[11:43] <ghb> crimsun: Hmm ok. So far I've just used the GUI config tool and not been messing around in the config files...
[11:44] <dtrostis> hello, I've been trying to install the java plugin for firefox 1.5 without success, can someone guide me thru the process?
[11:44] <TengkSA> it doesnt work it gives me a permission denied seveas
[11:44] <Seveas> dtrostis, no .bin or .deb file will install java for FF1.5
[11:44] <Seveas> dtrostis, in which folder did you install ff1.5?
[11:44] <ghb> crimsun: I'm using a hex code, by the way. Does it make any difference? It's just ten 1s so it's easy to remember. ;)
[11:44] <EdLin> zool2005, there's only one thing I miss, slime, it's in the Debian unstable non-free repository but not in multiverse
[11:44] <Seveas> TengkSA, what gave you that permission denied?
[11:44] <Signifer123> same as the mozilla way
[11:44] <ompaul> thegladiator, log out log in and see what happens try running nautilus from a terminal (applications accessories terminal)
[11:44] <skon> ghb: I am using 128 WEP and I just type in my encryption code right into the gnome configuration tool and it seems to work fine...
[11:44] <dtrostis> I don't think I even installed the file
[11:44] <Manifold> Does Zinf support FLAC?
[11:44] <TengkSA> when i type /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:44] <Signifer123> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable
[11:44] <TengkSA> Seveas, when i type /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:44] <Signifer123> java for mozilla
[11:44] <Seveas> TengkSA, it's a file, put the *CONTENTS* of it on the pastebin
[11:45] <zool2005> what's slime?
[11:45] <thegladiator> ompaul,  did all that . the nautilus will just show the error The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[11:45] <thegladiator> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[11:45] <dtrostis> Seveas: I just copy the file to the /usr directory
[11:45] <Hobbsee> EdLin: compile it then?
[11:45] <thegladiator> like an infinite loop
[11:45] <crimsun> ghb: should work fine, then.
[11:45] <Seveas> dtrostis, which file?
[11:45] <dtrostis> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[11:45] <EdLin> Hobbsee, it's an emacs extention
[11:45] <ghb> crimsun: Yeah, that's what I thought as well...
[11:45] <Seveas> dtrostis, put that in your homedir
[11:45] <Hobbsee> EdLin: ah rightg
[11:45] <thegladiator> how do i kilall nautilus ?
[11:45] <Seveas> dtrostis, where did you install *firefox*?
[11:45] <TengkSA> seveas how do i access that FILE
[11:45] <Hobbsee> thegladiator: in a terminal, killall nautilus
[11:45] <ITSa341> Seveas, can you recommend anything else instead of vmware to get access to some of the things windows offers I can't do without? Is win4lin any better? If so I'll uninstall vmware and try again from fresh install. I want to make some partition changes anyway.
[11:46] <sda3mon> hey what package do i need for that little "Boot editor" in the Applications->System Tools menu? it edits my grub conf file i believe
[11:46] <topyli> thegladiator: whatever it is, i'm sure the problem is in your home directory and not the system. log out, switch to a console, create another user and try
[11:46] <Seveas> TengkSA, with a text editor like gedit or kate
[11:46] <Hobbsee> TengkSA: nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:46] <ompaul> thegladiator, >>sudo killall nautilus<<
[11:46] <Jrex-Linux> EEK
[11:46] <Seveas> ITSa341, sorry, no experience with that
[11:46] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, ?
[11:46] <dtrostis> Ok, i put the file in the home folder, what now? FF is installed by default, I think
[11:46] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, It gave me a bunch of "direcory's not found"
[11:46] <Seveas> dtrostis, I thought you were talking about firefox 1.5?
[11:46] <Jrex-Linux> And I kinda did something really stupid
[11:46] <tebat> can anyone help me configure the use of a printer on a windows network that i'm connected to?
[11:46] <dtrostis> Yes Firefox 1.5
[11:47] <thegladiator> after a kill nautilus it  respawns
[11:47] <jenda-zZz> thegladiator: it should
[11:47] <thegladiator> just cant get rid of that
[11:47] <Seveas> dtrostis, that one is not installed by default
[11:47] <skon> ubotu: tell tebat about samba
[11:47] <sda3mon> come on, someone knows...what package do i need for that little "Boot editor" in the Applications->System Tools menu? it edits my grub conf file
[11:47] <thegladiator> it wont work after that
[11:47] <Jrex-Linux> I told it to log everything to fix.sh, clearing the file, where are xchat logs stored?
[11:47] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, what? (come back to private chat :))
[11:47] <crimsun> sda3mon: bum?
[11:47] <thegladiator> when i give a close it respwans again
[11:47] <Seveas> argh,,, that also explains the directories not found...
[11:47] <tebat> i have samba, i'm connected to the windows network and everything, but i can't seem to set up the printer for use on my system.
[11:47] <ghb> crimsun: Maybe I could just use unencrypted and hope no one spots my vulnerable network. =)
[11:47] <sda3mon> crimsun: maybe, trying it
[11:47] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, /home/ubuntu/.xchat2/xchatlogs/
[11:48] <thegladiator> topyli, i am not logged in as toor
[11:48] <ScootaDoota> thegladiator: what happens when you run nautilus -c at the command prompt
[11:48] <Jrex-Linux> ak, k
[11:48] <thegladiator> rooot
[11:48] <ompaul> thegladiator, fine,>> ctrl alt F1<< log in and do this rm .ICEauthority then >>ctrl alt f7<< and try logging in again
[11:48] <Dreamer_uk> I know that there is an nx channel but I wondered if this might be a ubuntu issue, I connect and auth ok but then get "Permission denied (publickey,password)" on my windoze client anyone feeling nice to help?
[11:48] <TengkSA> Seveas,  i sent it for u
[11:48] <Dreamer_uk> sorry this is for freenx
[11:48] <sda3mon> crimsun: no not that...i mean the program that lets you add/delete what operating systems grub can boot and their options
[11:48] <topyli> thegladiator: i know. however, if you create another, fresh user, we can see if nautilus is broken or not
[11:48] <Seveas> Dreamer_uk, did you install freenx from the Ubuntu packages?
[11:48] <Dreamer_uk> Seveas, yes
[11:49] <dtrostis> seveas, I think that in the /etc dir
[11:49] <Dreamer_uk> and made the auth change
[11:49] <topyli> thegladiator: try ompaul's cleanup first
[11:49] <Seveas> Dreamer_uk, auth change?!?
[11:49] <teprrr> http://pastebin.com/487734 -- can anyone help? x crash on dapper when trying to start any gl app..
[11:49] <thegladiator> let me try what ompaul said and we will do that
[11:49] <thegladiator> yes
[11:49] <Seveas> dtrostis, that would be weird, how did you do that?
[11:49] <Dreamer_uk> the soft link to xauth that stops the cookie error
[11:49] <thegladiator> ScootaDoota, it does self check well no errors
[11:49] <Seveas> TengkSA, that's not the complete file
[11:49] <TengkSA> Seveas,  i sent the real thing now
[11:49] <Seveas> ah :)
[11:50] <tebat> can anyone help me, i am connected to a windows network via samba, but i can't seem to gain access to the printer hooked up to one of the windows computers on the network.
[11:50] <Seveas> Dreamer_uk, that shouldn't be neccessary
[11:50] <dtrostis> Seveas, I really dont know what I did, I've followed the instructions a while ago, but I cant rememeber what I diod or where to find it
[11:50] <thegladiator> ompaul, .ICEauthority is in home/thegladiator ? i am logged as root nowroot
[11:50] <butcherbird> i miss editing cups from browser :(
[11:50] <jhenn> whats the minimum ram requirements for ubuntu to run?
[11:50] <Seveas> TengkSA, put the complete /boot/grub/menu.lst on the pastebin please
[11:50] <crimsun> sda3mon: I don't know, then.
[11:50] <ompaul> thegladiator, yes
[11:50] <cdehaan> Hi1
[11:50] <Manifold> What audio player do you guys use?
[11:50] <crimsun> quod libet
[11:50] <cdehaan> Is there a version of ubuntuguide.org for 5.10?
[11:51] <sda3mon> crimsun: thanks for trying anyways
[11:51] <jhenn> Manifold: beep-media-player
[11:51] <jhenn> Manifold: mpd
[11:51] <Jrex-Linux> why on earth isn't xchat logging if logging in enabled?
[11:51] <teprrr> Bluehorn, http://localhost:631? or was it 613..
[11:51] <sda3mon> ill go into debian and get the name
[11:51] <spacey> cdehaan, its in your system menu or on help.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <jhenn> Jrex-Linux: I think you have to restart it after to turn logging on?
[11:51] <Seveas> cdehaan, ubuntuguide.org sucks
[11:52] <ghb> skon: I might have found a clue: Just found a thread about the WLAN card I got, and apparently it's quite sucky. =(
[11:52] <butcherbird> Manifold: i dont see the point of using beep. i just use xmms
[11:52] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[11:52] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:52] <Jrex-Linux> jhenn, I turned on logging days ago
[11:52] <Manifold> Aha..
[11:53] <Manifold> Supports media skins eh, jhenn
[11:53] <skon> ghb: this could be true....some wifi cards don't work under linux at all, and some don't support APs....sorry to hear that...get a Belkin F57010 if you're on a budget (that's what I got) or get an orinoco because I hear they're awesome
[11:53] <Manifold> Supports media skins eh, jhenn ?
[11:53] <jhenn> Manifold: bmp does, mpd is a daemon
[11:53] <pysiak> ok, thanks all you guys, bye bye.
[11:53] <Manifold> Someone clinging onto their w32 legacy? ;] 
[11:53] <kung> gn8
[11:54] <ompaul> Manifold, the concept of skins is quite widespread have a look at www.gnomelook.org
[11:54] <gnomefreak> gotta love walmart
[11:54] <ghb> skon: I might just have to do that. This is so crap--a built-in WLAN card and it doesn't work as it's suppose to... -_-
[11:54] <jhenn> So what is the minimum ram required for breezy?
[11:54] <benplaut> w00t!
[11:54] <gnomefreak> jhenn,  i wouldnt go less than 128
[11:54] <benplaut> npr.org streaming works :D
[11:54] <TengkSA> Seveas, there you go
[11:54] <Manifold> I think that server's is down?
[11:54] <EdLin> jhenn, that depends on if you're running the default GNOME2 desktop environment or not.
[11:55] <Seveas> TengkSA, where?
[11:55] <EdLin> jhenn, GNOME (or KDE) require lots of memory.
[11:55] <cary> i finally got the boot cd to work (if anyone who has been helping me is still around) and now i am not quite sure exactly what to do at th epartitioner screen. last time i installed ubuntu i jacked up on my partitioning and id like that not to happen again. i can identify the part. i want to install the system to (/media/hda6) but how do i make the installer use that as the ubuntu drive?
[11:55] <TengkSA> Seveas,  soz wait a sec
[11:55] <benplaut> anyone know of a good, simple, easy to understand metacity theme in which there is no 'one pixel border' between the X and the edge of the screen? ie, fitt's law complient
[11:55] <Seveas> ah there :)
[11:55] <TengkSA> Seveas,  :)\
[11:55] <topyli> ompaul: i just want a good gtk2 mplayer gnome gui so i don't have to play with skins :)
[11:55] <jhenn> EdLin: i just picked up for free a p2 366 with 64 ram, I'm wondering if paying $80 for 256 ram is worth it
[11:55] <Friar_tuck> does gnomemeeting work?
[11:56] <Seveas> ok, I'll flood you in private :)
[11:56] <odla> how do i burn a movie dvd?
[11:56] <TengkSA> hahaha
[11:56] <jhenn> topyli: mpc +mpd
[11:56] <benplaut> jhenn, since when does 256 ram cost that much?!
[11:56] <gnomefreak> jhenn, yes if your gonna run ubuntu pay the 80 more
[11:56] <TengkSA> Seveas, my hdb is simply a media hard drive my installation for win is on hda2
[11:56] <EdLin> jhenn, run something like XFCE4 or fluxbox.
[11:56] <topyli> jhenn: not for mplayer. otherwise, mpd is kinda cool
[11:56] <jhenn> benplaut: i don't know its old ram
[11:56] <benplaut> jhenn, if you want to stick with 64, then try xfce
[11:56] <ompaul> topyli, offtopic :)
[11:56] <Shadyman> benplaut: When it's 133mhz Dimms
[11:56] <zool2005> can anyone recommend a method of transplanting my installation from one HDD to another without reinstalling
[11:56] <benplaut> ahh
[11:56] <ScootaDoota> ram for a PC that old is quite pricey
[11:56] <benplaut> !xubuntu
[11:56] <ubotu> from memory, xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:56] <Delvien> Can anyone help me out with this http://pastebin.com/487800
[11:56] <cary> anyone?
[11:56] <jhenn> benplaut: xubuntuu?
[11:57] <benplaut> jhenn, read what ubotu just said
[11:57] <Friar_tuck> !gnomemeeting
[11:57] <ubotu> GnomeMeeting is installed by default.  Access it via Applications -> Internet -> GnomeMeeting
[11:57] <jhenn> k
[11:57] <Syco54645> hi i was wondering if someone could help me turn dma on for my dvd and cd writer
[11:57] <benplaut> jhenn,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:57] <benplaut> ok, i'm outta here
[11:58] <cary> psusi, you around?
[11:58] <thegladiator> ompaul,  doesn't work either
[11:58] <cary> can anyone help my wiht my partition crap? seveas?
[11:58] <psusi> CarlFK, yo
[11:58] <gnomefreak> skon,  i just took it out of menu
[11:58] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:58] <psusi> cary even
[11:58] <skon> heh
[11:58] <CarlFK> psusi: hey
[11:58] <thegladiator> still nautilus is behaving the same
[11:58] <cary> psusi! can you help with my partition mess? ill resend it to the chat
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Cary you might have to tell us a lil more about it other than that partion crap
[11:59] <cary> i finally got the boot cd to work (if anyone who has been helping me is still around) and now i am not quite sure exactly what to do at th epartitioner screen. last time i installed ubuntu i jacked up on my partitioning and id like that not to happen again. i can identify the part. i want to install the system to (/media/hda6) but how do i make the installer use that as the ubuntu drive? psusu
[11:59] <ghb> skon: Okay, now I'm really about to start tearing my hair off: My brother got the exact same card on his laptop, and he could connect to my encrypted network... -_-
[11:59] <thegladiator> topyli, i will try out a new user ?
[11:59] <ompaul> thegladiator, there is one thing I would consider - try a reboot
[11:59] <cary> gnomefreak, see above (sent earlier)
[11:59] <thegladiator> did that many times
[11:59] <gnomefreak> i saw sorry
[11:59] <thegladiator> restart is not the problem
[11:59] <thegladiator> did a shut down even
[11:59] <thegladiator> 2 times
[12:00] <psusi> cary, what is unusual about your setup again?  why can't you just use the defaults?