[02:17] <tinsleyc> Ogra, mhz suggested I visit with you about the edubuntu dapper dailies.  Has he visited with you at all about our experiences and what we have learned so far... basically, that as end users, there is not much we can do with because they won't load succesfully.
[02:23] <crimsun> tinsleyc: it's pretty late for him, might want to check back in 12 hrs.
[02:24] <tinsleyc> thanks
[04:47] <mhz> ogra: are you all edubuntu stuff on vacation?
[04:47] <mhz> or just some of you, ogra_ibook ?
[04:47] <jsgotangco> give it till next week it'll normalize
[04:48] <mhz> jsgotangco: hey HNY!
[04:48] <jsgotangco> same :)
[04:48] <mhz> jsgotangco: I am afraid a shipping to Peru will not arrive on time :(
[04:49] <mhz> and it was asked almost 3 months agao now
[04:49] <mhz> ago
[04:49] <jsgotangco> whats in peru?
[04:50] <mhz> one of the guys who are trying to do stuff there is organizing an event at his universitie
[04:50] <mhz> one of the guys who are trying to do stuff there is organizing an event at his university
[04:50] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[04:51] <jsgotangco> have you contacted marilize?
[04:51] <mhz> sent 1 or 2 mails,
[04:51] <mhz> one week ago
[04:51] <mhz> I imagined things were hectic
[04:51] <mhz> but I guess they are n vacation?
[04:51] <jsgotangco> well JaneW won't be back till the 7th
[04:51] <mhz> I thought so
[04:52] <mhz> four
[04:52] <jsgotangco> wait
[04:52] <jsgotangco> she's on vacation till the 9th
[04:52] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:52] <mhz> h, betta!
[04:52] <mhz> :D
[04:52] <jsgotangco> so let's assume the cape town people will be out till the 9th as well
[04:52] <mhz> oops
[04:53] <jsgotangco> 870MB???
[04:53] <mhz> yup
[04:53] <mhz> 99 min
[04:54] <mhz> I saw a 10 CD pack of them
[04:54] <jsgotangco> that's a strange lot
[04:54] <mhz> and I just needed to have one
[04:54] <mhz> ;)
[04:54] <jsgotangco> oh it should
[04:54] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:54] <jsgotangco> it just has extra space
[04:55] <jsgotangco> you can easily burn any 650-up iso even in a dvd and it boots
[04:55] <jsgotangco> (as long as you have a dvd drive)
[04:56] <mhz> the ibook that got stolen had DVD :(
[04:57] <jsgotangco> i was playing around with opensuse during the weekend
[04:58] <mhz> is it lovely as SuSe?
[04:58] <jsgotangco> yes
[04:58] <jsgotangco> it just doesn't have the non-free stuff
[04:58] <jsgotangco> it would have been nicer if the thing fit in 1 cd instead of 5
[04:58] <jsgotangco> (at least the installer and the base apps)
[04:58] <mhz> eehehehe
[04:58] <mhz> yup,
[04:58] <mhz> 1 cd is better
[04:58] <mhz> always
[04:58] <jsgotangco> but a default install needs up to cd 5
[04:59] <jsgotangco> but the install base is only 1.8GB similar to ubuntu
[04:59] <mhz> good
[04:59] <jsgotangco> so that means the apps are just not properly placed in the cds
[04:59] <jsgotangco> (or the compression really sucks)
[05:00] <jsgotangco> but its really nice, i pop in a blank disc and k3b comes out
[05:01] <jsgotangco> even the gnome apps look like kde
[05:01] <jsgotangco> heh
[05:01] <jsgotangco> it even has beagle running by default in the gnome install
[05:09] <mhz_libre> jsgotangco: ping
[05:10] <jsgotangco> doh
[05:10] <jsgotangco> mhz_libre, pong
[05:10] <mhz_libre> jsgotangco: ping
[05:11] <mhz_libre> jsgotangco: could you see me b4?
[05:11] <jsgotangco> yeah
[05:11] <mhz_libre> I thought I was in a 'black hole' for a while
[05:11] <mhz_libre> jsgotangco: it did not boot
[05:11] <mhz_libre> it must be my CD drive
[05:12] <jsgotangco> that sucks
[05:13] <mhz_libre> yup
[05:13] <mhz_libre> :(
[05:13] <mhz_libre> jsgotangco: gee!
[05:14] <mhz_libre> it doesnt even read it!
[05:14] <jsgotangco> can try burning it at a slower rate
[05:14] <mhz_libre> speed=4
[05:14] <mhz_libre> I always do that
[05:15] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[05:15] <mhz_libre> cdrecord -v dev=X,Y,Z fs=16m speed=4 file.iso
[05:15] <jsgotangco> at least you have nice 9 more 870MB data discs =)
[05:15] <mhz_libre> tinsleyc: hey mon ami
[05:15] <tinsleyc> hello
[05:15] <mhz_libre> jsgotangco: hehehehe
[05:15] <tinsleyc> Have a question
[05:16] <mhz_libre> jsgotangco: but they get not read by my cd drive :)
[05:16] <mhz_libre> tinsleyc: shoot
[05:16] <jsgotangco> mhz_libre, buy a 870MB disc drive? hehe
[05:16] <tinsleyc> I have edubuntu running.  I have PXE'd a workstation to boot.  I have a login screen but now I need to configure users in NIS.  Is there a utility for this on the LTSP side or schooltool?
[05:17] <tinsleyc> How's the job prospects?
[05:18] <mhz> tinsleyc: AFAIK, there are some stuff being developed for edubuntu dapper 
[05:18] <mhz> but I dont remember about NIS
[05:18] <mhz> tinsleyc: why need NIS?
[05:20] <tinsleyc> I saw that.  Have you set up a Edubuntu network and logged in users from a diskless workstation.  I tried my one user ID and I can't authenticate. It is my understanding that LTSP using NIS for user management but I could not be understanding..
[05:20] <mhz> tinsleyc: LTSP (edubuntu) uses SSH
[05:20] <tinsleyc> NIS used to be YP (Yellow Pages)
[05:21] <tinsleyc> All I know at the moment is that the login screen won't let me authenicate with my normal user login that I can use on the Edubuntu Desktop that runs on the server.
[05:21] <mhz> tinsleyc: in the server, try
[05:21] <mhz> ltsp-update-sshkeys
[05:21] <mhz> or something like that
[05:22] <tinsleyc> hold on while I kvm over to that box.
[05:22] <mhz> LTSP had a stupid bug that it usually faild the 1st two times :)
[05:23] <tinsleyc> what usually fails 1st two times.
[05:23] <tinsleyc> the command or the login?
[05:23] <mhz> the login
[05:24] <mhz> if you hadnt run the ltsp-update-sshkey 
[05:25] <tinsleyc> okay I will try it again.  It seems to accept my login, screen goes black, get an x and then the gdm login screen again.  No I hadn't ran the ltsp-update-sskey command.  Do I need to do a restart of anything?
[05:25] <mhz> tinsleyc: GDM?
[05:25] <mhz> or LDM?
[05:26] <mhz> tinsleyc: nope, no restart needed
[05:26] <mhz> BUT, I assume you followed InstallNotes ?
[05:26] <tinsleyc> gnome.  It worked.  Apparently it was needing the ltsp-update-sshkey.  Followed the install notes to the letter including nat.
[05:26] <mhz> so your environement is 'default' (except for the lan settings)
[05:27] <mhz> tinsleyc: cool! I am glad to help
[05:27] <mhz> (finally!!!)
[05:28] <tinsleyc> I still need to figure out how to redirect the audio to the diskless workstation and other housekeeping.  I just noticed when I logged in, the ubunutu sound played on the server.
[05:28] <tinsleyc> thanks for the pointer to the sshkey command.  I didn't see that documented anywhere.
[05:29] <mhz> tinsleyc: no audio yet
[05:29] <tinsleyc> audio plays on the server, not the workstation.
[05:29] <mhz> tinsleyc: you are talking about dapper or breezy?
[05:29] <tinsleyc> breezy
[05:29] <mhz> ahhhh
[05:29] <mhz> no audio yet for W.S
[05:29] <mhz> maybe in dapper
[05:30] <tinsleyc> I am going to the kvm again
[05:30] <mhz> kvm?
[05:32] <tinsleyc_> I am now on the workstation (diskless) attached to the server, two nics.
[05:33] <mhz> oh
[05:33] <mhz> oh - oh
[05:33] <mhz> (so you can see it in two screens :D )
[05:33] <tinsleyc_> Another thing that would be nice is to have a different wall paper either on the server or the workstation so I can tell which desktop I am on :-)
[05:33] <mhz> (so you can see it in two screens :D )
[05:33] <tinsleyc_> Yes
[05:33] <tinsleyc_> You see there are two tinsleyc's out there right now in the session.
[05:34] <mhz> tinsleyc: well, AFAIK, a server is not to play with nor work with
[05:34] <mhz> ;)
[05:34] <mhz> yes, indeed
[05:34] <mhz> yes, indeed
[05:34] <mhz> :D
[05:34] <tinsleyc_> I just launched OOo on the diskless workstation.  FAST!  The workstation is a PII 400.
[05:35] <tinsleyc_> Printing works too!  Does breezy support locally attached printers?
[05:35] <mhz> wow
[05:35] <mhz> and the server?
[05:36] <tinsleyc_> AMD XP 2200+ 1.2 GB RAM
[05:36] <tinsleyc_> So have I.  I have a lab here, 6 systems currently running including the diskless.
[05:37] <tinsleyc_> But a default install of the breezy unbuntu does give you one desktop.
[05:38] <mhz> tinsleyc: oh, yes, you are right
[05:38] <mhz> I just dont use it
[05:39] <tinsleyc_> I am going to be presenting this system in a demo at my Linux User Group this Thursday so it is nice that is working as well as it and the speed is awesome.
[05:39] <mhz> tinsleyc: I am VERY happy
[05:39] <mhz> and I know the devels, too
[05:40] <tinsleyc_> What have you used for documentation?  The skolelinux or the tuxmanual?
[05:40] <tinsleyc_> LTSP also has a 60 page RFTM
[05:41] <tinsleyc_> In my research, I found that this implementation broke new ground and was nick name MooCow :-D
[05:42] <mhz> hehehhe
[05:42] <tinsleyc_> I though so too.
[05:42] <mhz> TuxLabs, afaik
[05:42] <tinsleyc_> okay.
[05:42] <mhz> it's the docs they are working on (doc-team)
[05:42] <tinsleyc_> I have that downloaded.  I have been following the document develment.  Maybe I can get involved with that.
[05:43] <mhz> jsgotangco: could guide you there
[05:43] <tinsleyc_> where do I post to him at?
[05:44] <tinsleyc_> Oh, I see he is on line?
[05:44] <mhz> jsgotangco: ping
[05:44] <mhz> hehehe
[05:44] <mhz> or, 
[05:44] <jsgotangco> hey
[05:44] <mhz> #ubuntu-doc
[05:44] <jsgotangco> (actually at lunch)
[05:44] <mhz> 01:44 here
[05:44] <mhz> tinsleyc: I am UTC -3 or GMT -3 :D
[05:45] <mhz> tinsleyc: how long did you wait for tecnocimiento.cl to load?
[05:46] <tinsleyc_> jsgotangco:  I would like to help with the documentation for edubuntu.  I am fairly good wordsmith.  mhz: I waited a long time, it timed out.  Want me to try again?
[05:46] <mhz> yup
[05:47] <tinsleyc_> came right up here!!!  I cannot believe the speed of this client!
[05:47] <mhz> tinsleyc: heheh, I am glad you feel like that ;)
[05:48] <mhz> tinsleyc: i need to get into the envelope again
[05:48] <mhz> good night
[05:48] <tinsleyc_> It's awesome.  I have some educators to show this to.
[05:48] <mhz> tinsleyc: i hope they get motivated. I have showed this to some educators too. They have loved it!
[05:48] <tinsleyc_> Well thanks again for the direction in getting the login to work.  Your are about 5 hours ahed of em.
[05:48] <mhz> (but I still get no money from it)
[05:49] <mhz> ;)
[05:49] <mhz> yup
[05:49] <tinsleyc_> iIs there suppose to be?
[05:49] <tinsleyc_> :-))
[05:49] <mhz> in tecnocimiento.cl you'll find an english summary
[05:50] <tinsleyc_> the Breezy Release page or another?
[05:51] <mhz> ?
[05:51] <mhz> let me check
[05:51] <tinsleyc_> Never mind.  Looks like I got it.
[05:51] <tinsleyc_> Let you get off to bed.  Thanks for being here so late.
[05:51] <mhz> http://www.tecnocimiento.cl/TecnocimientoSummary
[05:51] <mhz> np
[05:52] <mhz> thx for your enthusiams and show it to others
[05:52] <mhz> bytes!
[05:58] <tinsleyc_> jsgotangco ... are you finished with lunch?
[05:58] <jsgotangco> hey
[05:58] <jsgotangco> sorry
[05:59] <jsgotangco> umm
[05:59] <jsgotangco> so yeah
[05:59] <jsgotangco> i've read the documentation part
[05:59] <tinsleyc_> How can help with the documenation for edubuntu?
[05:59] <jsgotangco> well currently we're doing the cookbook
[05:59] <jsgotangco> i just dont know the progress kjcole has been doing with it
[05:59] <jsgotangco> because ive been busy with other stuff
[06:00] <tinsleyc_> Can I proof or test it, make additions, what can I do to help move it along
[06:00] <tinsleyc_> Do you want to put kjcole in touch with me?
[06:00] <tinsleyc_> Or how can I connect with him?
[06:01] <tinsleyc_> Who is "writer" on this session?
[06:02] <writer> I'm writer
[06:05] <tinsleyc> Okay
[06:05] <tinsleyc> I was just curious as we are discussing documentation and working on the cookbook.
[06:06] <jsgotangco> i can email kjcole later
[06:07] <tinsleyc> do you need my email address?  I am on both the dev and user lists.
[06:07] <tinsleyc> I think.
[06:07] <jsgotangco> sure pm it to mee
[06:08] <tinsleyc> I think I have to something on the irc to do that, which I have not done.  You can get it from mhz as well.
[06:10] <jsgotangco> okay
[06:10] <jsgotangco> i gotta get back to work
[06:10] <jsgotangco> just ping me up in case you need anythign
[06:11] <tinsleyc> I'll try to get back here tomorrow night.  If you go to http://idahopcug.apcug.org/linux.html, you will find my email address there.  It's no secret. 
[06:12] <jsgotangco> great
[06:12] <jsgotangco> checking now
[06:18] <tinsleyc> bye for now
[02:27] <carsten> ogra moin :)
[02:27] <carsten> I am the Kalzium-guy and have a request
[02:28] <carsten> just in case: ogra_ibook ^^^
[02:28] <ogra_ibook> hi
[02:29] <carsten> ogra_ibook: in the kalzium deb in breezy for kde 3.5 there is a missing compiletime deb
[02:29] <carsten> read this for details http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeedu/kalzium/README.packagers?rev=451368&view=auto
[02:29] <ogra_ibook> we dont support kde 3.5 
[02:29] <ogra_ibook> (in breezy)
[02:29] <carsten> shortversion: you need ocaml+libfacile on compiletime
[02:29] <carsten> ogra_ibook: ok, then for dapper :)
[02:30] <ogra_ibook> please talk to the guys that package it
[02:30] <carsten> I was told that is you
[02:30] <ogra_ibook> i think its fine in dapper
[02:30] <ogra_ibook> no, i dont package unofficial backports for breezy :)
[02:30] <carsten> you mean: kalzium-dapper supports the eqsolver?
[02:30] <ogra_ibook> i'm not sure, will look into it ...
[02:31] <carsten> ok, thanks
[02:32] <ogra_ibook> its not a dependency yet, lets see what i can do ...
[02:32] <ogra_ibook> but apparently it runs fine as is ...
[02:33] <ogra_ibook> whats the advantage of the equation solver ?
[02:41] <carsten> ogra will tell you in 10 min
[02:46] <ogra_ibook> it involves getting libfacile to main, i dunno its security history etc ...
[03:01] <carsten> ogra_ibook: no, that is not true. It is only needed on compiletime.
[03:01] <carsten> you don't need a libfacile-deb for users
[03:01] <carsten> beside that libfacile is a very stable product
[03:02] <carsten> ogra_ibook: well, the advantage is that it is a feature. :) Beside the fact that I don't know any eq-solver for linux it is pretty cool. It solves all kinds of equations, including charges.
[03:08] <Yagisan> carsten: In my experience, if you need a package at compile time, then that item also needs to be packaged
[03:08] <carsten> Yagisan: yes, I agree. but that is not a technical issue but only about your personal workflow
[03:09] <zakame> evening all :D
[03:10] <Yagisan> carsten: I'm not sure I understand you. If I apt-get source your-package, then load it into pbuilder, and it fails to compile because of a missing dependency, that is a fatal bug.
[03:10] <Yagisan> G'day zakame
[03:10] <zakame> heya Yagisan :D
[03:10] <carsten> Yagisan: ah, if you use pbuilder, yes!
[03:11] <carsten> Yagisan: sorry, I though you'd build yourself
[04:14] <mhz> ogra: as my CD drive seems useless to read 870 MB CD's
[04:14] <mhz> ogra: as my CD drive seems useless to read 870 MB CD's
[04:14] <ogra> ??
[04:14] <mhz> i guess I will have to install F2 via HardDisk
[04:15] <mhz> I remember i did it like that when I was using Debian (2 years ago)
[04:15] <mhz> i hope ubuntu behaves well in such way ;)
[04:16] <ogra> there is no 870 MB CD 
[04:16] <ogra> wjat the heck are you downloading `? 
[04:17] <jsgotangco> ogra, that's what im telling him a while ago
[04:17] <jsgotangco> (well hours ago)
[04:17] <jsgotangco> the only other disc i know that requires its own drive is a GD-ROM
[04:18] <jsgotangco> and that's 1GB
[04:21] <mhz> ogra: jsgotangco: I am not dreaming
[04:21] <mhz> I bought 10 cd's
[04:22] <mhz> they all are of 870 MB each
[04:22] <jsgotangco> what brand?
[04:22] <mhz> 870 MB / 99 min
[04:22] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-2/
[04:22] <jsgotangco> whoa
[04:22] <ogra> are you sure you download the right stuff ? 
[04:22] <mhz> ogra: I know I am happy with 700 MB normal cd
[04:23] <jsgotangco> it probably needs its own mad software to burn 870
[04:23] <mhz> ogra: I am talking about the blank cds I bought
[04:23] <ogra> oh, you mean you have 870B diaks
[04:23] <mhz> no the image
[04:23] <ogra> get a powerpc then, the images are always oversized ;)
[04:23] <mhz> jsgotangco: cdrecord did not gave me any troubles
[04:23] <mhz> ogra: hehehe
[04:24] <mhz> ogra: my CD drive is not reading it so, in order to test F2 iso (65x MB)
[04:24] <mhz> i was thinking of installing it via HD instead of CD
[04:24] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:30] <mhz> jsgotangco: 'Veniac' 870MB/99min, multispeed, Made in Korea, recordable, compact disk for professionals
[04:31] <jsgotangco> wow
[04:32] <juliux> happy new year mhz 
[04:33] <jsgotangco> wow they do exist
[04:35] <Yagisan> mhz: no guarantee the will work in all drives. they get that size by removing the lead-in and lead-out that most drives use to calibrate their location on the discs
[04:35] <Yagisan> s/the will/they will
[05:33] <Petaris> Hello all
[05:53] <mhz> juliux: HNY to you too
[06:42] <Lord_Athur> hi
[06:45] <damnhil> HOW do I enable/disable init services in command line?
[06:45] <damnhil> where's the edubuntu documentation?
[06:49] <Lord_Athur> damnhil, you should start searching with wiki
[06:49] <Lord_Athur> wiki.edubuntu.org
[07:06] <doug_> Is there anyone here that could help me with a sound problem?
[07:19] <blue-frog> doug_, problem?
[08:08] <Petaris> Would it be possible to run 50 clients with a single server, using OpenOffice.org 2 and Firefox primarily?
[08:09] <juliux> Petaris, if you have enough ram yes
[08:10] <Petaris> Do you think 8GB would be enough?
[08:10] <Petaris> Or would more be advisable?
[08:18] <mhz_lunch> Petaris: afaik, the bottlenecks of LTSP env. is both HD access to data and network capacitiy to transfer data
[08:19] <Petaris> mhz: It would be Gbit switches and Gbit nics on the server but 10/100 nics on the clients
[08:19] <Petaris> and two WD Raptor 74GB in RAID 1
[08:19] <mhz> andso it sounds like you are all set :)
[08:19] <Petaris> right
[08:19] <Petaris> cool
[08:20] <mhz> Petaris: it would be great to know the reality v/s theory :D
[08:20] <mhz> I have no way to test it like you can 
[08:20] <Lord_Athur> hi
[08:20] <Petaris> I don't have that equipt yet, just the small lab, 25 clients with 4GB ram
[08:21] <Petaris> its fairly speedy until they fire up vmplayer
[08:21] <mhz> so it would very cool to see those results. OOO and Firefox (runing flash sites) are a nice test
[08:21] <Petaris> :)
[08:22] <mhz> theory says that if you can have 48 MB of ram available on each client side and 128 MB of ram per client on the server side, then results of performance are good for norml applications
[08:23] <mhz> OOO and Firefox are applications I consider over the 'normal' category
[08:24] <mhz> your hardware looks like lot more than  'normal' and so I guess the performances would be very good on the app. you mention
[08:24] <Petaris> right
[08:25] <Petaris> just not quite enough for vmplayer on more then 12 clients ATM
[08:25] <Lord_Athur> hey, what program can i use to make html files?
[08:25] <Petaris> damn legacy softwares
[08:25] <Petaris> Lord_Athur: nano, vi, emacs  ;D
[08:26] <Petaris> Lord_Athur: What are you trying to do?
[08:26] <Lord_Athur> isn't there one graphical?
[08:26] <Lord_Athur> Petaris, a web page
[08:26] <Petaris> gedit
[08:26] <Petaris> jedit
[08:26] <Petaris> I use jedit myself
[08:26] <Petaris> has syntax highlighting
[08:26] <Lord_Athur> 
[08:27] <Petaris> http://www.jedit.org
[08:27] <Lord_Athur> nothing like Microsoft frontpage?
[08:27] <Petaris> ewww
[08:28] <Petaris> There are a few but, like frontpage, they don't produce valid html, xhtml, etc
[08:28] <Petaris> I can't think of the names of them ATM though
[08:28] <Petaris> Why?
[08:29] <Petaris> er, Why do you want a WYSIWYG editor?
[08:29] <Lord_Athur> a?
[08:29] <ogra> take NVU
[08:29] <Petaris> if you can get it to work
[08:30] <Lord_Athur> thanks ogra
[08:30] <ogra> why shouldnt he, i packaged it, for me t worked on i386, amd64 and powerpc ...
[08:30] <ogra> just install it from universe ...
[08:30] <Petaris> I didn't know it was packaged
[08:30] <Petaris> Last time I played with it it was a nightmare
[08:30] <ogra> we wanted it in main, but the security team opposed ...
[08:31] <ogra> with valid reason ...
[10:15] <lucasvo> anyone around?
[10:15] <lucasvo> I want to install edubuntu on a machine without cdrom drive
[10:16] <ogra> thats only working the hard way... install ubuntu via the netboot image
[10:17] <lucasvo> ogra: ?
[10:18] <ogra> you need another pc with dhcpd and tftpd, put up the netboot image and netboot the machine you want to install
[10:18] <jouni__m> lucasvo tell about that machine does it have ubuntu installed? is it laptop or desktop?
[10:19] <lucasvo> it is a linux from scratch
[10:19] <lucasvo> epia board
[10:19] <ogra> do you have a pxe capable card ? 
[10:19] <ogra> or a floppy to make a rom-o-matic image ?
[10:19] <lucasvo> ogra: no
[10:19] <ogra> s/make/use
[10:19] <lucasvo> but I think I have usb-disk boot
[10:20] <ogra> hmm, thats bad 
[11:46] <Lord_Athur> ogra, 
[11:46] <Lord_Athur> I could not mount an initrd file of a livecd distro, what can i do?
[11:47] <Lord_Athur> mhz, 
[11:47] <Lord_Athur> do you remember it?
[11:47] <Lord_Athur> nobody has been able to help me
[11:47] <Lord_Athur> nobody know it
[11:47] <mhz> Lord_Athur: hmmm
[11:47] <Lord_Athur> :S
[11:47] <mhz> waht distro?
[11:48] <mhz> Lord_Athur: which distro?
[11:48] <mhz> Lord_Athur: and what do you mean 'you could not mount it' ?
[11:48] <mhz> you tried manually from an already running OS?
[11:48] <mhz> or the live CD did not boot properly?
[11:49] <Lord_Athur> a?
[11:49] <Lord_Athur> look
[11:49] <Lord_Athur> it's a distro named necromantux
[11:49] <Lord_Athur> i wanted to change the bootsplash of the distro
[11:50] <Lord_Athur> but I need to mount an initrd file first
[11:50] <Lord_Athur> do I past the erro here?
[11:50] <mhz> and have you asked in their own #irc channel?
[11:50] <Lord_Athur> yes
[11:50] <Lord_Athur> nobody know it
[11:50] <Lord_Athur> :S
[11:50] <Lord_Athur> mhz, i've to go
[11:51] <Lord_Athur> i'll be back soon
[11:51] <mhz> Lord_Athur: each distro manages according to its own codes and rules
[11:51] <mhz> Lord_Athur: and again, I have NEVER worked on my own Live CD nor my own distro ;)
[11:54] <lucasvo> hm, my installation crashes at: Loading module 'isofs' for 'Linux ISO 9660 filesystem'...
[11:54] <lucasvo> 92%
[11:55] <jouni__m> lucasvo argh :(
[11:57] <mhz> Lord_Athur: honestly, with lots of sugar on top, I truly dont understand what you are trying to do, jumping from one distro to another every day or hour, so I hardly understand what you expect from us, people who are trying to improve Edubuntu and Ubuntu related issues. Of course, I hope I can help you one day when I start working on making live CDs or metadistros, but before that, I have no clue.
[11:57] <Lord_Athur> mhz, 
[11:57] <Lord_Athur> an initrd file can be found in every distro
[11:58] <mhz> yes
[11:58] <Lord_Athur> then 
[11:58] <Lord_Athur> I only want to mount one
[11:58] <Lord_Athur> nothing more
[11:58] <mhz> i know, i know, that's why i said, " I hope I can help you one day when I start working on making live CDs or metadistros, but before that, I have no clue"
[11:59] <Lord_Athur> ok
[11:59] <Lord_Athur> then
[11:59] <mhz> and also, I made 2 questions before
[11:59] <Lord_Athur> don't you want to see the error
[11:59] <mhz> Lord_Athur: and what do you mean 'you could not mount it' ?
[11:59] <mhz> you tried manually from an already running OS?
[11:59] <mhz> or the live CD did not boot properly?
[11:59] <Lord_Athur> mm
[12:00] <Lord_Athur> I could not mount the file from my debian system (today it is debian) with the "mount" command
[12:00] <mhz> Lord_Athur: does this error happened to you with other distros?
[12:00] <mhz> (in similar environments, of course)
[12:00] <Lord_Athur> yes
[12:02] <Lord_Athur> mhz, el 31 a las 5:30 un gringo me dijo como hacerlo, pero con el sueo se me olvid y ni me fij en respaldar nada
[12:02] <mhz> Lord_Athur: do you know what an 'initrd' file does for a linux system?
[12:02] <Lord_Athur> no
[12:02] <yvesC> ogra, gcompris 7.2 is in debian now. Can you sync with ?
[12:02] <mhz> Lord_Athur: did the 'gringo' tell you about it via IRC ?
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> yes
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> in the ubuntu channnel
[12:03] <mhz> Lord_Athur: do you use XChat?
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> yes
[12:03] <mhz> or similar GUI?
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> but it was when i was using kubuntu
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> :D
[12:03] <mhz> Lord_Athur: have you enabled the option 'log' in Preferences?
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> the log file does noyt exist
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> no
[12:03] <mhz> Lord_Athur: no comments :D
[12:03] <mhz> hehehe
[12:03] <Lord_Athur> jajjaa
[12:04] <Lord_Athur> mhz, los gringos no se rien! les digo "jaja" y no cahan q es eso
[12:04] <Lord_Athur> xD
[12:04] <mhz> :)
[12:04] <Lord_Athur> this was only a coment
[12:04] <Lord_Athur> :D
[12:04] <mhz> well, from their perspective, we don
[12:04] <mhz> t laugh
[12:05] <mhz> when they say 'heheheh'
[12:05] <Lord_Athur> jejeje