[02:10] sivang: Not at that hour [02:32] and this hour is supposedly better? ;) [03:22] Yeah [04:24] lifeless: do you have any idea what might have gone wrong with cprov's pqm merge that would have reverted those changes? === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-74-95.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad [05:06] jamesh: if he merged and discarded them, it will back them out when he merges [05:06] otherwise the only possible cause is a pathological base selection, but I would suspect that last, not first. [05:08] lifeless: I checked the branches: the branch celso merged had fully merged with rocketfuel to the point before it got merged into rocketfuel [05:08] lifeless: yet there were differences between celso's branch and rocketfuel with celso's branch merged in [05:08] (the differences being the backed out code) [05:09] jamesh: in which case it has to be a base selection issue [05:09] jamesh: was celsos branch a converted one ? [05:12] doesn't look like it [05:15] thats very bizarre then. [05:18] I took a copy of celso's branch and was able to pull from rocketfuel into it [05:18] which showed that the two branches had converged and there were no other revisions merged in between === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-71-237.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@203-167-187-229.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [n=scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #launchpad [07:26] Merge to devel/launchpad: [trivial] migrate-bugzilla-initialcontacts.py script, and some small bugzilla import cleanups (r2950: James Henstridge) [08:01] good morning dilys [08:01] good morning launchpad [08:01] good morning launchpad people === mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #launchpad === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #launchpad [08:55] good morning SteveA [08:58] hello sivan [09:00] jblack: hello [09:10] jblack: *waves* [09:16] Hi [09:16] jblack: Hi James , It appears I pinged you in the wrong hour :) [09:18] sivang: No problem at all. [09:18] Now that everyone is coming back, I'm back on a normal schedule [09:19] jblack: please correct me if I'm wrong, you're schedule isn't fitted with day and night time over where you are right? [09:19] (e.g. it's flipped) [09:21] Correct. I'm shifted about +10 or so [09:23] I have a steady set of core hours and a set of about 6 hours a day that shift slowly during the week === sivang watches SteveA's updates to RFS [09:27] i'm testing the procedure now [09:28] has it went under lifeless's review and ack already? [09:28] jblack: ^^ (recalling you adviced to wait until it's worked out) [09:28] i think we're waiting for rob to look at it some more [09:29] sivang: No. He's still unburying it himself. [09:29] I'll do so tomorrow [09:29] unburying himself [09:32] ok , just let me know when you think it can be tested by someone like me. [09:37] Oh, you can bet. :) [09:37] Between your comments, steve's comments, rob shouldn't have much of a problem looking them over. [09:38] But its something we want to do anyways. More eyes make bugs shallow, and a production process modification should always be reviewed first when possible. [09:38] actually, now that I think about it..More eyes don't make bugs more shallow... But there's certainly more perspetive [09:41] heh [09:42] More perspective means more depth perception. More depth means deepr. [09:43] So the old saw is backwards. Many eyes make bugs deep! === mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [09:53] can a LP dev please email me their sources.list? [09:56] sivang: your immutable comment... [09:56] That doesn't solve anything, I'm afraid. [09:57] If they can mutate the keyid, they can mutate a reference that we provide as well. [09:57] I think we'll solve that by locking the page down later. [10:13] jblack: k, cool. Btw, is it so that anybody who created a launchpad account can edit any page in launchpad? [10:14] s/launchpad/lanuchpad wiki/ [10:14] I believe it is so === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #launchpad === carlos [n=carlos@13.Red-83-41-30.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad [11:57] morning carlos [11:57] hi === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:19] morning guys === thisfred [n=thisfred@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:42] good morning! [12:43] good morning Brazil [12:44] hi [12:44] morning daf, matsubara [12:44] matsubara: cool you fixed the spec-already-exists error message, is it already on production? [12:45] jblack: still around? [12:50] sivang: I think it is. [12:58] carlos: yo [12:59] daf, hi [12:59] can you take another look at bug 26? [12:59] Malone bug 26: "Normal comments duplicated if they are in the .pot file" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Carlos Perell Marn, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/bugs/26 [01:01] daf, I need to take a look to the source code to answer you [01:01] I will do it this evening [01:02] that would be great, thanks === Nafallo_away is now known as Nafallo [01:05] daf, you are welcome [01:08] hi carlos [01:09] SteveA, hi [01:10] carlos: what do you think of having a voice call, to see where things are up to and what's happening next? [01:11] SteveA, I cannot have it now, I'm going to take a shower and go out for lunch with a friend, could we have it after lunch? (in about 3 hours or so) [01:11] carlos: sure, that's fine. i will be here [01:11] SteveA, I will ping you then [01:11] ok === carlos -> shower [01:12] jordi: can you take a look at bug 6293? [01:12] Malone bug 6293: "inkscape translation template" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/6293 [01:14] daf: I guess the breezy package was buggy. [01:14] let's check dapper [01:15] thanks [01:17] daf, there you go [01:17] the source package lacks a .pot [01:17] daf: should I reassign to inkscape? [01:18] daf/carlos: I submitted bug 6034 before christmas: looks like the additions to the PO file format in the next gettext might require some Rosetta datamodel changes [01:18] Malone bug 6034: "msgctxt support" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/6034 [01:18] oh. daf did see it [01:18] ignore me [01:18] jamesh, oh, I didn't know there were changes.... [01:18] jamesh, thanks for the notice! === lifeless [n=robertc@static-147.29.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #launchpad [01:20] jordi: I guess so [01:21] daf: can you do it after I comment? === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #launchpad [01:21] daf: done [01:25] jordi: done [01:32] daf: k === raptoid [n=raptoid@85.97.45.209] has joined #launchpad === tuhl [n=tuhl@p5498E741.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [02:06] jordi: i'm the maintainer of gnomebaker in launchpad, but i am not allowed to upload individual po's [02:07] lbm: how so? [02:07] lbm: if you want ot do it one by one, you nede to go to the individual language urls and use the "upload" link [02:07] jordi: that's what i'm trying to do [02:07] lbm: if you want to do all at once, you need a tarball, but for now it'll need to include the pot file too [02:08] https://launchpad.net/products/gnomebaker/+series/main/+pots/gnomebaker/zh_CN/+upload [02:08] (this will be fixed I think) [02:08] "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page." [02:08] i can't really use lauchpad actively if this doesn't work [02:08] really? [02:09] carlos, daf: why is lbm getting this? [02:09] I'm gessing this is happening because you're not a member of the Chinese team and the translation perms are closed [02:09] an exception should be granted to the product owner though [02:10] yes, i closed it to get work from committed users [02:10] lbm: would uploading a tar+zh_CN.tar.gz work in this case? (as a workaround) [02:11] lbm: maybe you wnt to set it to Structured though [02:11] jordi: i couldn't see what structured mode gave me [02:11] in this case, if a language has no ubuntu team assigned, anyone can contribute. But for languages with a team assigned, you can only get translations from team members [02:11] so in general it's a good idea for your case [02:12] err, when I said tar+zh_CN.tar.gz, I meant a tar.gz with pot+zh_CN.po [02:12] yes :) [02:13] last time bz2 gave me an error, tar.gz worked fine though [02:13] there's a bug filed about bz2 [02:13] okay, great [02:13] it's actually a bug in python! [02:14] "If 'Reviewed', then anybody can make suggestions but only the designated translators can edit or confirm translations." [02:14] but no 'Reviewed' in the list [02:14] and no description of 'Structured' [02:14] where is this? [02:15] +changetranslators [02:16] i need to select '(no value)' in the translation group selection for your idea to work, right? [02:16] oh, nevermind [02:17] ubuntu translators was linked to all language-specific groups, i forgot [02:17] ok, so Reviewed = Structured [02:17] this is a trivial fix, I'll report [02:20] it's reported already [02:21] daf, carlos: https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bug/6383 is trivial [02:21] Malone bug 6383: "Reviewed vs Structured" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/6383 [02:21] oh damn. [02:21] bug 5852 [02:21] I missed it [02:21] Malone bug 5852: "+changetranslators advertises non-existent "Reviewed" choice" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Carlos Perell Marn, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/bugs/5852 [02:21] :) [02:21] sorry, I was a bit slow there [02:22] by the way, what's happening with bug 2022? [02:22] Malone bug 2022: "iso-codes is not available for breezy" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Major, Assigned to: Jordi Mallach, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/bugs/2022 [02:22] maybe the same as inkscape? [02:23] 98% chances [02:23] it's always this === tuhl [n=tuhl@p5498E741.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #launchpad [] [02:23] are you able to reassign such bugs to the source package? [02:23] nope [02:23] or I wasn't [02:23] :/ [02:24] "Request fix: ... In Distribution" [02:24] that's the link I use [02:24] (medium priority) [02:24] 680. No translation template for tin [02:24] so dapper and iso-codes? [02:24] if you can't reassign, we should work out why [02:24] you should be able to [02:24] let me try [02:24] dapper + iso-codes? [02:25] ? [02:25] what to say in that "distribution" link [02:25] asks me for a distro and a source package [02:25] oh [02:26] ubuntu + iso-codes [02:26] oh [02:26] while you're at it: bug 3954 [02:26] Malone bug 3954: "Tamazight needs adding to Rosetta" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Carlos Perell Marn, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/bugs/3954 [02:27] daf: so it got added to iso-codes, but not removed from rosetta [02:27] is this ok? [02:28] what I do in this situatoin is to Reject the rosetta one [02:28] perhaps it's a bug that you can't reassign a bug from a product to a package [02:30] hm === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #launchpad [02:31] daf: done [02:31] daf: replied to 3954 [02:31] great, thanks [02:34] i get a whole lot of timeouts today [02:37] lbm: do you have the OOPS codes from them? [02:37] SteveA: only the last one: OOPS-A646 [02:38] OOPS-A647 [02:38] i tried 4-5 times, still no luck [02:39] https://launchpad.net/products/gnomebaker/+series/main/+pots/gnomebaker/da/+translate === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:47] hello [02:47] how is everyone? [02:49] hi kiko. how are you? [02:49] kiko dude! [02:50] lbm: i see what the problem is. it is bug 5751 [02:50] Error: I cannot access this bug. [02:51] lbm: which is a private bug. basically, it is a performance issue in the code. Carlos is working on a fix for it. [02:51] SteveA: okay, i'll try again another day [02:53] lbm: well... i may be able to make it work now. i'll try altering a setting to allow longer queries to happen... [02:54] SteveA: great, give me a vink and i'll try [02:57] lbm: okay, try now [02:59] SteveA: OOPS-B555 [03:00] OOPS-B557 also === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #launchpad [03:01] hmm.. i doubled the amount of time it can take. [03:01] let's try something different. carlos is working on the proper fix, but this will take a while, as it involves designing and writing some code [03:02] but, as an interim measure, we could have a mode where we don't display suggestions [03:02] SteveA: let me know [03:02] as that is what is taking all the time [03:02] oh :) [03:02] SteveA, that's been suggested before, sounds like a good idea [03:02] lbm: i can't do much else today, but i'll try to get something fixed soon [03:02] great [03:02] you could disable suggestions by default [03:03] sure, we can do that until carlos' proper fix is ready [03:05] lbm: i've just been talking with daf, and we're going to try a quick instant fix [03:06] SteveA: okay, looking forward :) === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #launchpad === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [03:13] lbm: please try now [03:13] SteveA: works, thanks! [03:13] great! [03:15] kiko: i just hacked the template in production, with daf's help. we have traded suggestions for lack of timeouts. === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #launchpad [03:15] cool [03:15] i'll mail the patch out to the list, for stu to pick up on the next roll out [03:15] will reduce the issue significantly [03:15] and we can talk with carlos later about how the proper fix is going === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [04:09] is the /+series/foo/+addpotemplate page linked from anywhere? [04:14] I don't think so [04:17] hey guys, lp.net is timing out for me, any particular reason? [04:18] sabdfl, network timing out, or site timing out? [04:19] can I report bzr suspected bugs on lp ? or should I just use bugzilla for that? [04:23] sivang: bzr bugs are tracked in launchpad [04:23] SteveA: ok, thanks. [04:26] kiko: site timing out on rosetta translation pages [04:26] sabdfl, was this the issue SteveA and daf were discussing above? [04:27] many translation pages were timing out. i've disabled suggestions as a temporary measure to stop pages timing out so much [04:28] i've discussed with carlos a proper fix, and he's working on it [04:28] sabdfl: if you get a timeout, please paste the OOPS code. this allows us to check the tracebacks and other debugging information. [04:33] SteveA, Hi [04:33] hi carlos. i'm talking with daf for about 20 minutes more [04:33] SteveA, ok [04:34] SteveA, please, ping me back when you are ready === thierry [n=thierry@modemcable232.48-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [05:01] carlos: i've finished talking with daf. i'm going to take a short break and then maybe we can talk# [05:02] SteveA, ok [05:05] I need some help with an SQL query [05:05] daf, can you help me? === bradb & # lunch with jbailey === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #launchpad [05:17] carlos: ping [05:17] SteveA, pong [05:17] carlos: shall we talk on skype? [05:18] i'm running it now [05:18] sure [05:18] hmm [05:18] wait, I need to reinstall it [05:18] I reinstalled the laptop last week [05:18] it should be fast [05:23] SteveA, ok, I'm logged in [05:32] carlos: so when you're done, I have a few pending posts that I wanted you or daf to answer [05:51] hey jordi [05:51] that's the kiko [05:51] how did it go dude? [05:51] what's up dude [05:51] not too bad [05:51] bastards with vacation [05:53] daf: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3686 updated [05:53] Malone bug 3686: "System error when admining pot" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Minor, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: NeedInfo http://launchpad.net/bugs/3686 === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #launchpad === Nafallo is now known as Nafallo_away === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083E23C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [06:38] carlos: [06:38] carlos: oops [06:39] carlos: i mean, that was a mistake [06:39] I'm not sure "Product Groups" is right [06:40] that brings to mind the Microserf-esque "MS Encarta 2006 Product Group" type thing [06:40] Malone bug 2006: "Deactivated memberships should be hidden" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/2006 [06:40] the name is certainly convoluted [06:40] how did ubugtu match /that/? Seveas? === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [06:41] kiko, MS equals bug perhaps :) [06:41] really now! [06:41] want the truth? [06:41] I'm stupid :) [06:41] it'll now match any integer [06:42] 1337? [06:42] what, so if I say I'm 25, born in 1980, live at 15 priorygate way, B9 5nf and my phone number is ... [06:42] Malone bug 25: "New feature: notepad-like box in translations" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Wishlist, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/bugs/25 [06:42] no, but 1337 [06:42] Malone bug 1980: "Recovering archive from mirror procedure incomplete; need to recreate the .archive-version file" Fix req. for: bazaar (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/1980 [06:42] :p [06:42] Malone bug 15: "PO file import errors should be more verbose" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Wishlist, Assigned to: Carlos Perell Marn, Status: Fixed http://launchpad.net/bugs/15 [06:42] Malone bug 1337: "Distro release tasks should include name of distro" Fix req. for: malone (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Brad Bollenbach, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/bugs/1337 [06:42] @unload Bugtracker [06:42] The operation succeeded. [06:42] let me fix it :) [06:46] The reference for this error is OOPS-A786. Please include it in your bug report or email. [06:46] (Timeout error) [06:49] ok, fixed [06:50] Keybuk: nice big query. it deserved to time out [06:50] "big query" ? I just typed my name into the box [06:51] Keybuk, well "Scott James Remnant" is quite a big name ;) [06:51] I just typed "Keybuk" [06:51] Keybuk: the query in the OOPS report wouldn't fit on your birth certificate [06:52] such a random document than that === SteveA files a bug [06:52] "this certifies that you were REALLY BORN" [06:52] "surely the fact I'm standing here does that?" [06:52] "scott's birth certificate too small" [06:53] Keybuk, no, you could have appeared instead of being born ;) [06:55] https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/6389 [06:55] Malone bug 6389: "people search timed out" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/6389 [06:55] https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/6389 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #launchpad === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #launchpad === memet`s2ci [n=raptoid@85.102.195.32] has joined #launchpad === memet`s2ci [n=raptoid@85.102.195.32] has left #launchpad [] === looksaus [n=looksaus@ip-83-134-126-127.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #launchpad [07:40] sabdfl, I would like to convince the local chain of fair trade shops (Oxfam Wereldwinkels) to distribute the Ubuntu CD [07:40] is this appropriate? [07:41] we're speaking of a very tight network of local shops operated by volunteers with a very good community reputation [07:41] 206 shops in Flanders, Dutch speaking northern half of Belgium [07:42] (or please refer me to the correct person to ask this question to) [07:44] they have a quite professional internal distribution system [07:44] looksaus, maybe contact silbs? === poningru [n=poningru@pool-70-110-77-220.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad [08:25] jamesh: ping [08:28] hmm, launchpad wiki coming from webmaster@ubuntu.com makes it hard to distinct it from w.u.c... can it be changed to launchpad@ubuntu.com ? [08:28] (when sening notifications about subscribed pages) === mpt [n=mpt@203-167-187-229.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #launchpad [08:59] Goooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! [08:59] hey mpt [09:06] 2006, wow [09:09] 2006 is old news [09:09] bradb, ping [09:10] mpt: pong [09:10] bradb, DuplicateBugHandling is marked as BrainDump + Implemented [09:10] there needs to be a spec about merging bugs' tasks [09:11] Would you prefer me to finish the DuplicateBugHandling spec with that stuff included, or start a new spec? [09:12] mpt: Filling in the existing braindump would be better, IMHO. [09:14] okie dokie [09:15] hey mpt [09:15] hi sivang [09:17] mpt: I trying to make your design reality in glade, it's a pain :-) [09:18] mpt: glade is acting weird, not displaying frame borders, layout is getting flipped etc.. [09:18] mpt, many people have suggested you produce glade/gazpacho mockups instead of paper drawings.. [09:18] heh [09:18] kiko: if he had done that, I would had 80% of the work already done, glade is a real pain [09:19] well, it does require you understand the gtk+ box model [09:19] I understand it to some good degree I think, but stuff aren't behaving as they should this time.. [09:22] kiko: as you've written kiwi, mind if I ask you some quesiton in glade? [09:23] kiko, I find Glade/Gazpacho take me 20 times as long as pen and paper too, so that's just redistributing effort, not saving it :-) [09:24] sivang, sure. [09:25] mpt: I appriciate greatly your pen and paper stuff, it really helps to put things in perspective without loosing hair with glade technicalities :) [09:25] kiko: how do I tell glade to show frame's border? I set it several time to X>0 and nothing happens === mpt hunts for a product that uses Rosetta [09:26] mpt: just too bad I didn't have you in my HUB bofs .. === nerd_ [n=nerd@dslb-084-056-075-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === el-singerl [n=nerd@dslb-084-056-075-237.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [09:36] hi to all [09:36] today I've registered in launchpad and want to help to translate [09:36] english -> german [09:37] now a question: everywhere the following message appers: suggestions are temporarily disabled [09:37] how can i help now to translate ? [09:40] el-singerl, your suggestions will be stored anyway [09:41] it's just that we are not showing them atm because we had some performance problems [09:41] but they don't appear [09:41] we will try to get them fixed next week [09:41] ah ok, I understand [09:42] el-singerl: talk to your locoteam admin to approve you as a translator , then you could translate directly without just adding suggestions, but I imagine this can take a while until they see youre translations are good [09:42] so if i translate now, all message are saved anyhow [09:42] el-singerl, yes [09:42] sure, they are suggestions [09:42] el-singerl: s/locoteam admin/launchpad translator team admin/ [09:42] k, i understand [09:42] thx [09:43] I'll contact my locoteam admin [09:47] so suggestions are turned off? [09:47] but I'm still getting timeouts [09:47] odd [09:49] carlos: so that's it? carlos, I was waiting for your return to answer this question. [09:50] carlos: so, when people ask where to find a list of translatable software for my language, what do I say? [09:50] jordi, really? [09:50] (and, does it work?) [09:51] jordi, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+lang/lang_code [09:51] jordi, dapper is not ready [09:51] and it works but has bugs [09:51] timeouts and some missing templates if there is no translation at all [09:51] for your language [09:51] ok, so that's what I was seeing [09:52] is there a plan to fix that "missing templates" bug? it's pretty bad, people can't find out what to translate [09:52] BjornT, ping [09:52] jordi, yes, but not sure when.. SteveA and daf are working on the bugs priorities [09:52] hi mpt [09:53] jordi, btw... are you aware of the new page at https://launchpad.net/rosetta/imports ? [09:53] jordi, the wiki page is now deprecated [09:53] carlos: too aware, I need to talk to you about it too [09:53] ;-) [09:53] ok [09:53] because the first day I used it I goofed quite a bit [09:53] carlos: yes [09:54] jordi, goofed? [09:55] fucked up, because I really didn't know how it worked [09:55] (and in the end, uploaded a hebrew translation as greek) [09:56] oh [09:56] I saw your email [09:56] right [09:56] please, feel free to file bugs with suggestions to improve it [09:56] you must be as productive as possible with that page [09:56] that's the main point behind it [09:57] hmm, seems like we have some problems there with some entries that are stalled... === Burgwork [n=corey@S010600131016cf6f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #launchpad [09:59] wtf... [09:59] jordi, I moved over here [09:59] carlos: I need a basic guide of how I am supposed to work with it [09:59] janimo: great, better [09:59] jordi, the first table has the headers wrong [10:00] carlos: ok, so janimo and Burgwork are discussing how mature launchpad/rosetta is for xfce [10:00] I will fix it with hte next production upload [10:00] well I have no experience with rosetta [10:00] janimo, hi [10:00] carlos: I have in mind the problems that the Plone guys have encountered -- mostly permissions [10:00] I know xfce have an i18n team using po files and committers to their svn [10:00] but nothing more [10:01] I wanted to know if it would be too early for me going to them and asking if they want to test rosetta [10:01] carlos, hi :) [10:01] jordi, you should talk then with SteveA and daf to set those bugs as high priority so we fixed them as soon as possible [10:01] janimo: currently rosetta will provide an "easy way" of getting work available for contributors, and an easy way of getting it done. 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