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cjb | Bored now. | 02:46 |
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fabbione | morning guy | 06:08 |
BenC | yeah, 2.6.15 is final | 06:12 |
fabbione | cool | 06:18 |
infinity | Lies. | 06:18 |
infinity | I won't believe it until the mirrors are updated. :) | 06:18 |
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CataEnry | hi all | 01:30 |
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dilinger | ooh, neat | 02:15 |
dilinger | after rebooting into breezy's latest 2.6.12, my keyboard no longer functions :) | 02:16 |
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zul | heylo | 02:19 |
dilinger | hm. where can i find 2.6.12 10.24? i don't see it in archive.u.c's pool directory | 02:20 |
BenC | it should be | 02:20 |
BenC | linux-image-2.6.12-10-{386,686,...} | 02:20 |
dilinger | right, i see 10.25, but no 10.24 | 02:21 |
dilinger | (and i see 10.23, which is ABINAME -9) | 02:21 |
BenC | 10.23 must have been a mistake :) | 02:22 |
BenC | no idea what happened to 10.24, unless it's because it was security | 02:22 |
dilinger | oh well, i'll just use 10.23 | 02:23 |
dilinger | blah, still broken. must not be the kernel | 02:26 |
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BenC | zul: need to watch when you are removing some of those printk's | 02:48 |
BenC | zul: when you removed the one from asus_acpi, you left a dangling if() statement right above it | 02:49 |
BenC | I re-added the printk and just made it KERN_DEBUG, so it shouldn't be so obvious | 02:49 |
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zul | ok cool...thanks | 03:02 |
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ogra | hi, do we have any kernel that supports via8251 controllers ? | 03:32 |
zul | it should | 03:34 |
ogra | which one ? | 03:34 |
zul | is this an amd64 board? | 03:35 |
ogra | i just got this shiny new 1u server onmy desk and neither the controller nor the NIC are detected ... | 03:35 |
ogra | nope, P4 | 03:35 |
BenC | is it n64t P4? | 03:49 |
BenC | EM64T that is | 03:49 |
ogra | might be, the amd64 disk doesnt boot, so i'm unsure | 03:50 |
ogra | i just found a hint to disable acpi, i'll try that | 03:50 |
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BenC | ok | 03:51 |
BenC | if the amd64 disk doesn't work, it's probably not EM64T | 03:51 |
ogra | it doesnt look like :) | 03:52 |
ogra | its a p4 HT cpu | 03:52 |
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ogra | oh, wow, there are linx drivers on the shipped asus CD | 04:18 |
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ogra | they only ship drivers for 2.4 kernels ... as well as a patch :( | 04:20 |
zul | patch for 2.6? | 04:35 |
BenC | ogra: if you send the patches, I can try to integrate them, but it's doubtful | 04:35 |
ogra | i just need the server to work until err, tomorrow :( | 04:39 |
ogra | the patch seems only for 2.4 | 04:39 |
ogra | BenC, have a look http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/via_raid_linux_v100_20040412.zip | 04:51 |
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BenC | zul: PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_MY7101 is not defined anywhere | 05:18 |
BenC | I need value for it | 05:18 |
zul | frig... | 05:23 |
zul | alim7101_pmu = pci_find_device(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AL, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_M7101,NULL); | 05:24 |
zul | typo.. | 05:25 |
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BenC | zul: did you see what I said about PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_MY7101? | 05:44 |
fabbione | zul frig... | 05:44 |
fabbione | zul alim7101_pmu = pci_find_device(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AL, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_M7101,NULL); | 05:44 |
fabbione | zul typo.. | 05:44 |
BenC | ah, ok | 05:45 |
BenC | zul: you're at three typos so far, let's hope that's the last one :) | 05:45 |
CataEnry | bye all | 05:48 |
zul | BenC: my bad.. | 06:04 |
BenC | zul: no problem, I fix enough of my own aswell...a build every once in awhile would help though :) | 06:06 |
zul | yeah i usually do that i was just too sick this weekend | 06:13 |
BenC | ogra: oh, crappy, it's a binary driver with a kernel mod wrapper | 06:16 |
ogra | yup | 06:17 |
BenC | pretty much the same as nvidia | 06:17 |
mjg59 | Is it real RAID? | 06:17 |
ogra | http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html says it should be supported by sata_via | 06:17 |
mjg59 | Or is it something that should be handled by dmraid? | 06:17 |
ogra | nope | 06:17 |
ogra | not at all | 06:17 |
ogra | i dont even want the raid | 06:17 |
ogra | i'd love to just have access to the HDs nothing more, no nifty controller features required | 06:18 |
BenC | is sata_via getting loaded? | 06:19 |
ogra | nope | 06:19 |
BenC | can you modprobe it and see if it does anything? | 06:19 |
ogra | i get the "select a driver" dialog in the installer | 06:19 |
ogra | it doesnt ... | 06:19 |
ogra | only says it loads libata | 06:20 |
BenC | anything in dmesg? | 06:20 |
ogra | nope | 06:20 |
BenC | lspci -vn | 06:20 |
ogra | only the libata msg | 06:20 |
BenC | let me see the pci dev/vendor for it | 06:20 |
BenC | there's a way to push new id's in through sysfs so we can try that if you want | 06:20 |
ogra | 1160:3349 | 06:21 |
ogra | intresting is, that without acpi=off not even the via rhineII is detected ... | 06:22 |
BenC | is the ven/dev or subsystem? | 06:22 |
ogra | both | 06:22 |
ogra | they are equal | 06:23 |
mjg59 | ogra: That's not a known vendor... | 06:23 |
mjg59 | Oh, hang on, it is | 06:23 |
mjg59 | But it's Microsoft | 06:24 |
mjg59 | ogra: This board sounds very broken | 06:24 |
ogra | asus | 06:24 |
mjg59 | Nngh. Not Microsoft. | 06:24 |
mjg59 | 1160 is "Megasoft Inc" | 06:24 |
ogra | p5v800-mx | 06:24 |
ogra | can carry 32 and 64 bit cpus apparently | 06:25 |
mjg59 | 3349 is a VIA SATA device, but it should be 1106, not 1160 | 06:25 |
BenC | is it really 1160? | 06:25 |
mjg59 | Are you sure it's 1160? | 06:25 |
ogra | all my devices are 1106, yup | 06:25 |
ogra | 1106 | 06:26 |
mjg59 | So not 1160:3349 | 06:26 |
BenC | hehe | 06:26 |
mjg59 | Right | 06:26 |
ogra | nope | 06:26 |
ogra | 1106 :) | 06:26 |
mjg59 | Ah. | 06:26 |
mjg59 | sata_via lists 3149 and 3249, but not 3349 | 06:26 |
ogra | odd | 06:27 |
mjg59 | ogra: Can you echo 1106:3349 >/sys/bus/pci/drivers/sata_via/new_id ? | 06:27 |
ogra | sure | 06:27 |
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ogra | woah | 06:28 |
ogra | a bunch of errors in dmesg now | 06:28 |
cjb | kernel BUG at user/chair.c:32767? :) | 06:29 |
mjg59 | Heh | 06:30 |
mjg59 | ogra: Ah - it's actually an AHCI controller | 06:30 |
ogra | yup | 06:30 |
mjg59 | I remember this from LKML now | 06:30 |
mjg59 | via_sata is the wrong driver | 06:30 |
mjg59 | In an ideal world, ahci would just drive it | 06:31 |
ogra | is there a working one ? | 06:31 |
ogra | ah | 06:31 |
mjg59 | VIA submitted a patch to ahci which adds loads of bodges | 06:31 |
ogra | which wont be included ever i guess | 06:33 |
mjg59 | http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/11/204 | 06:34 |
ogra | phew | 06:36 |
ogra | that means i have to compile my own kernel again .... odd odd | 06:36 |
ogra | mjg59, thanks ... i think i have no other choice ... | 06:37 |
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ppd | hi. Is it possible to port back the eject fix from the latest dapper kernel to 2.6.14 or stable breezy kernel? | 10:00 |
fabbione | ppd: you will have to do it yourself. | 10:04 |
fabbione | the fix won't make breezy | 10:04 |
ppd | fabbione: and it's not possible to run a 2.6.15 on breezy? | 10:04 |
fabbione | nope, you need new udev and other userland tools | 10:05 |
ppd | fabbione: annoying... could you give me a hint where to look after the changes or a patch? | 10:06 |
fabbione | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 10:06 |
fabbione | get the kernel from git | 10:06 |
fabbione | search for the patch | 10:06 |
ppd | git's not in the breezy repos :-/ | 10:08 |
cjb | It isn't? I thought it was 'git-core'. | 10:08 |
ppd | in dapper, yes | 10:08 |
cjb | Oh, okay. | 10:08 |
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ppd | does anybody know what got fixed in detail? If it's a complete rewrite of something with lot's of dependencies I'll give up right now ;-) | 10:10 |
ppd | or could anybody please mail me the patch? otherwise I'll have to backport git-core first :-( | 10:15 |
fabbione | ppd: you can use git-core from dapper | 10:17 |
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ppd | fabbione: doesn't it have dependencies higher than my breezy system? | 10:17 |
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(ppd/#ubuntu-kernel) and I want to provide a fixed breezy compatible kernel to the wiki | 10:59 | |
ppd | I have already implented the graphical wrapper around pumount in breezy :-) | 11:00 |
fabbione | beg you pardon? | 11:00 |
fabbione | what does "fixed breezy compatible kernel to the wiki" mean? | 11:00 |
ppd | fabbione: write a howto for people wanting to solve this issue but not wanting to upgrade | 11:01 |
fabbione | ppd: that's a really bad idea.. | 11:01 |
ppd | why? | 11:01 |
fabbione | in the first place people that builds their own kernel won't get security if not doing that on a regular base | 11:01 |
fabbione | building custom kernel is not something you make user do for fun | 11:02 |
fabbione | it's not a mortal issue | 11:02 |
fabbione | there is much worst out there that needs love | 11:02 |
ppd | no it isn't. But somebody might like it and I'll put a big fat warning into it for sure | 11:03 |
fabbione | i still don't like it | 11:04 |
fabbione | we have seen way too many users coming to us crying after following wrong procedures on the wiki | 11:04 |
ppd | okay. I won't put a howto in the wiki | 11:05 |
BenC | ppd: work around is to either do "sudo eject -s", or backport the eject package from dapper which doesn't need sudo for "eject -s" | 11:05 |
ppd | BenC: backporting the dapper eject package would be enough?? no need to recompile the kernel? | 11:06 |
BenC | it wont work automatically (from the GUI), but yes, it will allow you to eject without root | 11:06 |
ppd | hm | 11:07 |
BenC | mjg59: ping | 11:28 |
mjg59 | BenC: Hi | 11:29 |
mjg59 | Bloody good timing, I'm just back from the pub | 11:29 |
BenC | mjg59: hey, you've apparently done some uploads for wacom-tools, so by ubuntu-law, that means you own it :) | 11:29 |
BenC | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/4773 | 11:30 |
BenC | a user is claiming that it needs to be 0.7.0 or better to work with breezy/dapper | 11:30 |
mjg59 | Haha | 11:30 |
mjg59 | What's the version in Debian? | 11:30 |
BenC | debian, and so us, only have 0.6.6...have you done anything with wacon recently? | 11:31 |
mjg59 | Oh, right | 11:31 |
mjg59 | wacom is a bit of a nightmare | 11:31 |
mjg59 | The kernel, X and userspace have to be kept in sync | 11:31 |
mjg59 | Now that we have modular X, this is MUCH LESS PAIN | 11:31 |
BenC | I want to do the update, but I don't have anyway of testing it | 11:31 |
mjg59 | I can test the X side, but not the kernel side | 11:31 |
mjg59 | (Serial devices and tablet PCs are handled by X, USB ones by the kernel) | 11:32 |
BenC | the main thing is that wacom-tools needs to be tested | 11:32 |
BenC | supposedly X and kernel are already newest | 11:32 |
mjg59 | X isn't the newest | 11:32 |
BenC | or newer than wacom-tools | 11:32 |
mjg59 | The upstream X stuff lags behind | 11:32 |
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BenC | I'm going to assign it to you, but don't think that I expect you to do anything with it...I just need to put it somewhere :) | 11:34 |
BenC | just trying to go through the bugs in malone | 11:35 |
mjg59 | Fair enough | 11:35 |
mjg59 | I'll get to it at some point, I expect | 11:35 |
BenC | would be very appreciated | 11:35 |
ppd | BenC: I changed the lines in 2.6.14. Now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/489308 | 11:37 |
BenC | you forgot to copy those two functions aswell :) | 11:39 |
BenC | they are in the same file | 11:39 |
ppd | thank you. next round :) | 11:46 |
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