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cjbBored now.02:46
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fabbionemorning guy06:08
BenCyeah, 2.6.15 is final06:12
fabbionecool06:18
infinityLies.06:18
infinityI won't believe it until the mirrors are updated. :)06:18
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CataEnryhi all01:30
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dilingerooh, neat02:15
dilingerafter rebooting into breezy's latest 2.6.12, my keyboard no longer functions :)02:16
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zulheylo02:19
dilingerhm.  where can i find 2.6.12 10.24?  i don't see it in archive.u.c's pool directory02:20
BenCit should be02:20
BenClinux-image-2.6.12-10-{386,686,...}02:20
dilingerright, i see 10.25, but no 10.2402:21
dilinger(and i see 10.23, which is ABINAME -9)02:21
BenC10.23 must have been a mistake :)02:22
BenCno idea what happened to 10.24, unless it's because it was security02:22
dilingeroh well, i'll just use 10.2302:23
dilingerblah, still broken.  must not be the kernel02:26
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BenCzul: need to watch when you are removing some of those printk's02:48
BenCzul: when you removed the one from asus_acpi, you left a dangling if() statement right above it02:49
BenCI re-added the printk and just made it KERN_DEBUG, so it shouldn't be so obvious02:49
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zulok cool...thanks03:02
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ograhi, do we have any kernel that supports via8251 controllers ?03:32
zulit should03:34
ograwhich one ?03:34
zulis this an amd64 board?03:35
ograi just got this shiny new 1u server onmy desk and neither the controller nor the NIC are detected ...03:35
ogranope, P403:35
BenCis it n64t P4?03:49
BenCEM64T that is03:49
ogramight be, the amd64 disk doesnt boot, so i'm unsure03:50
ograi just found a hint to disable acpi, i'll try that03:50
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BenCok03:51
BenCif the amd64 disk doesn't work, it's probably not EM64T03:51
ograit doesnt look like :)03:52
ograits a p4 HT cpu03:52
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ograoh, wow, there are linx drivers on the shipped asus CD 04:18
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ograthey only ship drivers for 2.4 kernels ... as well as a patch :(04:20
zulpatch for 2.6?04:35
BenCogra: if you send the patches, I can try to integrate them, but it's doubtful04:35
ograi just need the server to work until err, tomorrow :(04:39
ograthe patch seems only for 2.404:39
ograBenC, have a look http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/via_raid_linux_v100_20040412.zip04:51
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BenCzul: PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_MY7101 is not defined anywhere05:18
BenCI need value for it05:18
zulfrig...05:23
zul  alim7101_pmu = pci_find_device(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AL, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_M7101,NULL);05:24
zultypo..05:25
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BenCzul: did you see what I said about PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_MY7101?05:44
fabbionezul frig...05:44
fabbionezul   alim7101_pmu = pci_find_device(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AL, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_M7101,NULL);05:44
fabbionezul typo..05:44
BenCah, ok05:45
BenCzul: you're at three typos so far, let's hope that's the last one :)05:45
CataEnrybye all05:48
zulBenC: my bad..06:04
BenCzul: no problem, I fix enough of my own aswell...a build every once in awhile would help though :)06:06
zulyeah i usually do that i was just too sick this weekend06:13
BenCogra: oh, crappy, it's a binary driver with a kernel mod wrapper06:16
ograyup06:17
BenCpretty much the same as nvidia06:17
mjg59Is it real RAID?06:17
ograhttp://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html says it should be supported by sata_via 06:17
mjg59Or is it something that should be handled by dmraid?06:17
ogranope06:17
ogranot at all06:17
ograi dont even want the raid06:17
ograi'd love to just have access to the HDs nothing more, no nifty controller features required06:18
BenCis sata_via getting loaded?06:19
ogranope06:19
BenCcan you modprobe it and see if it does anything?06:19
ograi get the "select a driver" dialog in the installer06:19
ograit doesnt ... 06:19
ograonly says it loads libata06:20
BenCanything in dmesg?06:20
ogranope06:20
BenClspci -vn06:20
ograonly the libata msg06:20
BenClet me see the pci dev/vendor for it06:20
BenCthere's a way to push new id's in through sysfs so we can try that if you want06:20
ogra1160:334906:21
ograintresting is, that without acpi=off not even the via rhineII is detected ...06:22
BenCis the ven/dev or subsystem?06:22
ograboth06:22
ograthey are equal06:23
mjg59ogra: That's not a known vendor...06:23
mjg59Oh, hang on, it is06:23
mjg59But it's Microsoft06:24
mjg59ogra: This board sounds very broken06:24
ograasus06:24
mjg59Nngh. Not Microsoft.06:24
mjg591160 is "Megasoft Inc"06:24
ograp5v800-mx06:24
ogracan carry 32 and 64 bit cpus apparently06:25
mjg593349 is a VIA SATA device, but it should be 1106, not 116006:25
BenCis it really 1160?06:25
mjg59Are you sure it's 1160?06:25
ograall my devices are 1106, yup06:25
ogra110606:26
mjg59So not 1160:334906:26
BenChehe06:26
mjg59Right06:26
ogranope06:26
ogra1106 :)06:26
mjg59Ah.06:26
mjg59sata_via lists 3149 and 3249, but not 334906:26
ograodd06:27
mjg59ogra: Can you echo 1106:3349 >/sys/bus/pci/drivers/sata_via/new_id ?06:27
ograsure06:27
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ograwoah06:28
ograa bunch of errors in dmesg now06:28
cjbkernel BUG at user/chair.c:32767?  :)06:29
mjg59Heh06:30
mjg59ogra: Ah - it's actually an AHCI controller06:30
ograyup06:30
mjg59I remember this from LKML now06:30
mjg59via_sata is the wrong driver06:30
mjg59In an ideal world, ahci would just drive it06:31
ograis there a working one ?06:31
ograah06:31
mjg59VIA submitted a patch to ahci which adds loads of bodges06:31
ograwhich wont be included ever i guess06:33
mjg59http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/11/20406:34
ographew06:36
ograthat means i have to compile my own kernel again .... odd odd06:36
ogramjg59, thanks ... i think i have no other choice ...06:37
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ppdhi. Is it possible to port back the eject fix from the latest dapper kernel to 2.6.14 or stable breezy kernel?10:00
fabbioneppd: you will have to do it yourself.10:04
fabbionethe fix won't make breezy10:04
ppdfabbione: and it's not possible to run a 2.6.15 on breezy?10:04
fabbionenope, you need new udev and other userland tools10:05
ppdfabbione: annoying... could you give me a hint where to look after the changes or a patch?10:06
fabbionehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide10:06
fabbioneget the kernel from git10:06
fabbionesearch for the patch10:06
ppdgit's not in the breezy repos :-/10:08
cjbIt isn't?  I thought it was 'git-core'.10:08
ppdin dapper, yes10:08
cjbOh, okay.10:08
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ppddoes anybody know what got fixed in detail? If it's a complete rewrite of something with lot's of dependencies I'll give up right now ;-)10:10
ppdor could anybody please mail me the patch? otherwise I'll have to backport git-core first :-(10:15
fabbioneppd: you can use git-core from dapper10:17
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ppdfabbione: doesn't it have dependencies higher than my breezy system?10:17
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-10.15 uploaded (The "Howdy Ho!" release, AKA amd64-alternative-smp + rc7)
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(ppd/#ubuntu-kernel) and I want to provide a fixed breezy compatible kernel to the wiki10:59
ppdI have already implented the graphical wrapper around pumount in breezy :-)11:00
fabbionebeg you pardon?11:00
fabbionewhat does "fixed breezy compatible kernel to the wiki" mean?11:00
ppdfabbione: write a howto for people wanting to solve this issue but not wanting to upgrade11:01
fabbioneppd: that's a really bad idea..11:01
ppdwhy?11:01
fabbionein the first place people that builds their own kernel won't get security if not doing that on a regular base11:01
fabbionebuilding custom kernel is not something you make user do for fun11:02
fabbioneit's not a mortal issue11:02
fabbionethere is much worst out there that needs love11:02
ppdno it isn't. But somebody might like it and I'll put a big fat warning into it for sure11:03
fabbionei still don't like it11:04
fabbionewe have seen way too many users coming to us crying after following wrong procedures on the wiki11:04
ppdokay. I won't put a howto in the wiki11:05
BenCppd: work around is to either do "sudo eject -s", or backport the eject package from dapper which doesn't need sudo for "eject -s"11:05
ppdBenC: backporting the dapper eject package would be enough?? no need to recompile the kernel?11:06
BenCit wont work automatically (from the GUI), but yes, it will allow you to eject without root11:06
ppdhm11:07
BenCmjg59: ping11:28
mjg59BenC: Hi11:29
mjg59Bloody good timing, I'm just back from the pub11:29
BenCmjg59: hey, you've apparently done some uploads for wacom-tools, so by ubuntu-law, that means you own it :)11:29
BenChttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/477311:30
BenCa user is claiming that it needs to be 0.7.0 or better to work with breezy/dapper11:30
mjg59Haha11:30
mjg59What's the version in Debian?11:30
BenCdebian, and so us, only have 0.6.6...have you done anything with wacon recently?11:31
mjg59Oh, right11:31
mjg59wacom is a bit of a nightmare11:31
mjg59The kernel, X and userspace have to be kept in sync11:31
mjg59Now that we have modular X, this is MUCH LESS PAIN11:31
BenCI want to do the update, but I don't have anyway of testing it11:31
mjg59I can test the X side, but not the kernel side11:31
mjg59(Serial devices and tablet PCs are handled by X, USB ones by the kernel)11:32
BenCthe main thing is that wacom-tools needs to be tested11:32
BenCsupposedly X and kernel are already newest11:32
mjg59X isn't the newest11:32
BenCor newer than wacom-tools11:32
mjg59The upstream X stuff lags behind11:32
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BenCI'm going to assign it to you, but don't think that I expect you to do anything with it...I just need to put it somewhere :)11:34
BenCjust trying to go through the bugs in malone11:35
mjg59Fair enough11:35
mjg59I'll get to it at some point, I expect11:35
BenCwould be very appreciated11:35
ppdBenC: I changed the lines in 2.6.14. Now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/48930811:37
BenCyou forgot to copy those two functions aswell :)11:39
BenCthey are in the same file11:39
ppdthank you. next round :)11:46

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