=== jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-64-222-238-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-64-222-238-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [n=jbailey@modemcable139.249-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Leaving"] === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host109-1.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === infinity [n=adconrad@charon.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:46] Bored now. === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-64-222-238-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai-2 [n=gtk2@pool-64-222-238-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:08] morning guy [06:12] yeah, 2.6.15 is final [06:18] cool [06:18] Lies. [06:18] I won't believe it until the mirrors are updated. :) === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chmj [n=chmj@dsl-146-70-71.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host34-7.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:30] hi all === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:15] ooh, neat [02:16] after rebooting into breezy's latest 2.6.12, my keyboard no longer functions :) === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dmk [n=dmk@host81-156-131-83.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:19] heylo [02:20] hm. where can i find 2.6.12 10.24? i don't see it in archive.u.c's pool directory [02:20] it should be [02:20] linux-image-2.6.12-10-{386,686,...} [02:21] right, i see 10.25, but no 10.24 [02:21] (and i see 10.23, which is ABINAME -9) [02:22] 10.23 must have been a mistake :) [02:22] no idea what happened to 10.24, unless it's because it was security [02:23] oh well, i'll just use 10.23 [02:26] blah, still broken. must not be the kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:48] zul: need to watch when you are removing some of those printk's [02:49] zul: when you removed the one from asus_acpi, you left a dangling if() statement right above it [02:49] I re-added the printk and just made it KERN_DEBUG, so it shouldn't be so obvious === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:02] ok cool...thanks === zooko [n=user@blk-215-95-202.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:32] hi, do we have any kernel that supports via8251 controllers ? [03:34] it should [03:34] which one ? [03:35] is this an amd64 board? [03:35] i just got this shiny new 1u server onmy desk and neither the controller nor the NIC are detected ... [03:35] nope, P4 [03:49] is it n64t P4? [03:49] EM64T that is [03:50] might be, the amd64 disk doesnt boot, so i'm unsure [03:50] i just found a hint to disable acpi, i'll try that === zooko [n=user@blk-215-95-202.eastlink.ca] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["ERC] [03:51] ok [03:51] if the amd64 disk doesn't work, it's probably not EM64T [03:52] it doesnt look like :) [03:52] its a p4 HT cpu === doko [n=doko@dslb-084-059-106-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:18] oh, wow, there are linx drivers on the shipped asus CD === ogra cries ... [04:20] they only ship drivers for 2.4 kernels ... as well as a patch :( [04:35] patch for 2.6? [04:35] ogra: if you send the patches, I can try to integrate them, but it's doubtful [04:39] i just need the server to work until err, tomorrow :( [04:39] the patch seems only for 2.4 [04:51] BenC, have a look http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/via_raid_linux_v100_20040412.zip === slushpupie [i=jay@slushpupie.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:18] zul: PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_MY7101 is not defined anywhere [05:18] I need value for it [05:23] frig... [05:24] alim7101_pmu = pci_find_device(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AL, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_M7101,NULL); [05:25] typo.. === CataEnry [n=cataenry@host188-16.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:44] zul: did you see what I said about PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_MY7101? [05:44] zul frig... [05:44] zul alim7101_pmu = pci_find_device(PCI_VENDOR_ID_AL, PCI_DEVICE_ID_AL_M7101,NULL); [05:44] zul typo.. [05:45] ah, ok [05:45] zul: you're at three typos so far, let's hope that's the last one :) [05:48] bye all [06:04] BenC: my bad.. [06:06] zul: no problem, I fix enough of my own aswell...a build every once in awhile would help though :) [06:13] yeah i usually do that i was just too sick this weekend [06:16] ogra: oh, crappy, it's a binary driver with a kernel mod wrapper [06:17] yup [06:17] pretty much the same as nvidia [06:17] Is it real RAID? [06:17] http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html says it should be supported by sata_via [06:17] Or is it something that should be handled by dmraid? [06:17] nope [06:17] not at all [06:17] i dont even want the raid [06:18] i'd love to just have access to the HDs nothing more, no nifty controller features required [06:19] is sata_via getting loaded? [06:19] nope [06:19] can you modprobe it and see if it does anything? [06:19] i get the "select a driver" dialog in the installer [06:19] it doesnt ... [06:20] only says it loads libata [06:20] anything in dmesg? [06:20] nope [06:20] lspci -vn [06:20] only the libata msg [06:20] let me see the pci dev/vendor for it [06:20] there's a way to push new id's in through sysfs so we can try that if you want [06:21] 1160:3349 [06:22] intresting is, that without acpi=off not even the via rhineII is detected ... [06:22] is the ven/dev or subsystem? [06:22] both [06:23] they are equal [06:23] ogra: That's not a known vendor... [06:23] Oh, hang on, it is [06:24] But it's Microsoft [06:24] ogra: This board sounds very broken [06:24] asus [06:24] Nngh. Not Microsoft. [06:24] 1160 is "Megasoft Inc" [06:24] p5v800-mx [06:25] can carry 32 and 64 bit cpus apparently [06:25] 3349 is a VIA SATA device, but it should be 1106, not 1160 [06:25] is it really 1160? [06:25] Are you sure it's 1160? [06:25] all my devices are 1106, yup [06:26] 1106 [06:26] So not 1160:3349 [06:26] hehe [06:26] Right [06:26] nope [06:26] 1106 :) [06:26] Ah. [06:26] sata_via lists 3149 and 3249, but not 3349 [06:27] odd [06:27] ogra: Can you echo 1106:3349 >/sys/bus/pci/drivers/sata_via/new_id ? [06:27] sure === BenC waits for ogra's new box to melt [06:28] woah [06:28] a bunch of errors in dmesg now [06:29] kernel BUG at user/chair.c:32767? :) [06:30] Heh [06:30] ogra: Ah - it's actually an AHCI controller [06:30] yup [06:30] I remember this from LKML now [06:30] via_sata is the wrong driver [06:31] In an ideal world, ahci would just drive it [06:31] is there a working one ? [06:31] ah [06:31] VIA submitted a patch to ahci which adds loads of bodges [06:33] which wont be included ever i guess [06:34] http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/12/11/204 [06:36] phew [06:36] that means i have to compile my own kernel again .... odd odd [06:37] mjg59, thanks ... i think i have no other choice ... === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-64-222-238-188.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [n=lamont@mib.fc.hp.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Panda2 [n=blyadski@217.118.90.1] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Panda2 [n=blyadski@217.118.90.1] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === slushpupie [i=jay@slushpupie.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ppd [n=max@dslb-084-056-040-103.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:00] hi. Is it possible to port back the eject fix from the latest dapper kernel to 2.6.14 or stable breezy kernel? [10:04] ppd: you will have to do it yourself. [10:04] the fix won't make breezy [10:04] fabbione: and it's not possible to run a 2.6.15 on breezy? [10:05] nope, you need new udev and other userland tools [10:06] fabbione: annoying... could you give me a hint where to look after the changes or a patch? [10:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide [10:06] get the kernel from git [10:06] search for the patch [10:08] git's not in the breezy repos :-/ [10:08] It isn't? I thought it was 'git-core'. [10:08] in dapper, yes [10:08] Oh, okay. === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku42.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:10] does anybody know what got fixed in detail? If it's a complete rewrite of something with lot's of dependencies I'll give up right now ;-) [10:15] or could anybody please mail me the patch? otherwise I'll have to backport git-core first :-( [10:17] ppd: you can use git-core from dapper === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-64-223-236-91.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:17] fabbione: doesn't it have dependencies higher than my breezy system? === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-10.15 uploaded (The "Howdy Ho!" release, AKA amd64-alternative-smp + rc7) === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by BenC at Tue Dec 27 18:14:13 2005 [10:59] (ppd/#ubuntu-kernel) and I want to provide a fixed breezy compatible kernel to the wiki [11:00] I have already implented the graphical wrapper around pumount in breezy :-) [11:00] beg you pardon? [11:00] what does "fixed breezy compatible kernel to the wiki" mean? [11:01] fabbione: write a howto for people wanting to solve this issue but not wanting to upgrade [11:01] ppd: that's a really bad idea.. [11:01] why? [11:01] in the first place people that builds their own kernel won't get security if not doing that on a regular base [11:02] building custom kernel is not something you make user do for fun [11:02] it's not a mortal issue [11:02] there is much worst out there that needs love [11:03] no it isn't. But somebody might like it and I'll put a big fat warning into it for sure [11:04] i still don't like it [11:04] we have seen way too many users coming to us crying after following wrong procedures on the wiki [11:05] okay. I won't put a howto in the wiki [11:05] ppd: work around is to either do "sudo eject -s", or backport the eject package from dapper which doesn't need sudo for "eject -s" [11:06] BenC: backporting the dapper eject package would be enough?? no need to recompile the kernel? [11:06] it wont work automatically (from the GUI), but yes, it will allow you to eject without root [11:07] hm [11:28] mjg59: ping [11:29] BenC: Hi [11:29] Bloody good timing, I'm just back from the pub [11:29] mjg59: hey, you've apparently done some uploads for wacom-tools, so by ubuntu-law, that means you own it :) [11:30] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/4773 [11:30] a user is claiming that it needs to be 0.7.0 or better to work with breezy/dapper [11:30] Haha [11:30] What's the version in Debian? [11:31] debian, and so us, only have 0.6.6...have you done anything with wacon recently? [11:31] Oh, right [11:31] wacom is a bit of a nightmare [11:31] The kernel, X and userspace have to be kept in sync [11:31] Now that we have modular X, this is MUCH LESS PAIN [11:31] I want to do the update, but I don't have anyway of testing it [11:31] I can test the X side, but not the kernel side [11:32] (Serial devices and tablet PCs are handled by X, USB ones by the kernel) [11:32] the main thing is that wacom-tools needs to be tested [11:32] supposedly X and kernel are already newest [11:32] X isn't the newest [11:32] or newer than wacom-tools [11:32] The upstream X stuff lags behind === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:34] I'm going to assign it to you, but don't think that I expect you to do anything with it...I just need to put it somewhere :) [11:35] just trying to go through the bugs in malone [11:35] Fair enough [11:35] I'll get to it at some point, I expect [11:35] would be very appreciated [11:37] BenC: I changed the lines in 2.6.14. Now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/489308 [11:39] you forgot to copy those two functions aswell :) [11:39] they are in the same file [11:46] thank you. next round :)