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skonghb: under linux?12:00
pa_liam wondering, the pyqt that was preinstalled with ubuntu, why are some of the classes missing?12:00
jimmy13632Hey can you open .rpm in ubuntu12:00
DelvienCan anyone help me out with this http://pastebin.com/48780012:00
gnomefreak!alien12:00
ubotuhmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/12:00
topylithegladiator: at least the new user will have a virgin environment, and you will see if the system is broken, of if it's your home environment12:00
skonghb: and same kernel?12:00
ghbskon: Well, no, under Windows... But still!12:00
ompaulthegladiator, did you do some other stuff like use automated programs for installing stuff, your complaint is so unusual that I think something local is broken12:00
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butcherbirdjimmy13632: use alien to convert to deb12:00
pa_liam wondering, the pyqt that was preinstalled with ubuntu, why are some of the classes missing?12:00
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jimmy13632ok thx12:00
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thegladiatorvery unusual i know12:00
thegladiatori will try creating a new user12:00
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thegladiatorhow do i ?12:01
CarlFKpsusi: im only 1/4 here, so be sure to CarlFK any messages you want me to see12:01
skonghb: well yeah, windows, there's a difference. under windows learning my wifi was very simple but installing it under linux was a little more difficult. did yours require use of ndiswrapper?12:01
topylithegladiator: it's just a test, not a solution12:01
carypsusi, my main hd is booting win2k and i have a second drive that partitioned into 3 parts, and i have identified which id like to use, but i dont knwo how ot tell the installer to use it. the drive is a master on the second chain i think, but the other hd is the one that has win2k on it12:01
thegladiatoryes i know12:01
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carypsusi (oi..i didnt think yet about janking with the boot strap to dual boot.12:01
topylithegladiator: in a console, adduser <username>12:01
ghbskon: I came across the word ndiswrapper looking around google for my problem. What is that? A package of drivers? Should I try using them?12:01
cary will that be hard? im so new at this mess)12:01
TrueChaosAnyone ever heard of a hard shutdown killing a HDD? mom shutdown my box earlier, and it was hanging at GRUB Loading, Please wait... so I poped in a liveCD, and after using the liveCD bios doesnt even see the HDD.12:01
psusicary, what do you mean you don't know how to tell the installer to use it?  if you do an advanced install there are plenty of options and one should be where to install12:02
hegeniousndiswrapper was the only way to get my wifi going12:02
gnomefreakcary, you have a full hd for ubuntu? or are you going to share 1 hd with ubuntu and win?12:02
butcherbirdTrueChaos: put the hd in the freezer for a while :)12:02
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psusiTrueChaos, sure... if the hard drive was crashing, a power cycle is usually what pushes it over the edge12:02
thegladiatori will login as maximus now and see12:02
carygnomefreak, i have two HDs..on has one partition booting win2k, the second hd has 3 parts, one will be for ubuntu12:02
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skonubotu: tell ghb about ndiswrapper12:03
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TrueChaosbutcherbird: this does give me a chance to try that :D12:03
SillyZgood evening12:03
carypsusi, that may be the probelm...im in basic install12:03
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psusicary, yea.. you want advanced install12:03
carypsusi, doing that now12:03
SillyZis there a page somewhere for setting up an ATI Radeon 9200 under ubuntu?, Ive tried working with agpgart and fglrx, but to no avail12:03
skonghb, check it out....ndiswrapper works with a lot of wifis12:03
TrueChaospsusi: my mom hard shut it down because it was really really slow, and it was making wierd noises, or so my mom claims.12:03
gnomefreakpsusi, he can use manual partion?12:03
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carypsusi, given my hd set up (just listed for gnome) do you expect it to be difficult for my to set up my dual booting12:04
TrueChaosTime to try the freezer trick!12:04
ghbskon: I'll try that. But hey, what does Ubuntu use, then, if not ndiswrapper?12:04
ompaulTrueChaos, do the disk could have been dead before it was powered off12:04
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psusiTrueChaos, "weird noises" is a good description of a crashing hd12:04
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hegeniousndiswrapper very helpful HOWTO  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192612:04
SillyZghb, I use a linksys wireless card, module ath_pci12:04
Delviengnomefreak do you knwo if there is a Dapper channel??12:04
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psusiTrueChaos, hope you have a recent backup, and that the drive is under warrenty12:04
ScootaDootaTrueChaos: sounds like your mums telling the truth12:04
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SeveasDelvien, this channel :)12:04
gnomefreakDelvien,  what is wrong?12:04
gnomefreaklol12:04
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skonghb: if it doesn't use ndiswrapper, it's either built into the kernel automagically or it has open source drivers12:04
Omeedhello everyone, i recently formatted the drive with the boot loader, and i dont know how to install GRUB again. Is there an easy way through the ubuntu install cd?12:05
Coaghow can i trick a program into thinking my architecture is i386?12:05
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ManifoldEr, out of interest, has anyone tried installing Enlightenment from apt?12:05
psusicary, difficult is a relative term ;)12:05
TrueChaoswhen the comp attempts to access the drive on bootup it makes the same noise, over and over :D and then stops12:05
skonomeed: select the expert install and it will bring you to a list where you can select to install the boot loader12:05
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psusiTrueChaos, yea... the drive is toast12:05
SillyZ<<-- need ati radeon help, is there a page or something somewhere that describes a correct setup for ubuntu?12:05
Delviengnomefreak Seveas Vmware wont configure under 2.6.15-10-386 kernal, and im at a loss on what to do.12:05
ompaulDelvien, it is a development platform and will be 'til ~ april 20th so stuff will break between now and then12:05
ghbskon: Hmm. Righto. Well, I'll give ndiswrapper a go. Pray to god that it works, or you'll see a white strip on the sky, representing my miniPCI WLAN card.12:05
thegladiatorompaul, topyli even as a new user it doesnt work12:05
Delvienompaul yes i know...12:05
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Coag!tell SillyZ about ATi12:05
skonghb, haha12:05
thegladiatori am afraid this is now a case of broken nautilus !12:05
SillyZthanks coag12:06
carypsusi, i guess i mean is configuring a normal bootstrap generally regarded as hard. ive gotten a powerbook to dualboot but the systems were on the same hd. just wondering if another hd being in the mix is going to make it harder12:06
thegladiatoror the system :(12:06
TrueChaospsusi: yeah, Im just trying to make sure its not the mobo / ide controler or anything before I go buy a new drive12:06
skonghb, good luck12:06
ompaulthegladiator, only on your box, so it is local do you12:06
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CoagSillyZ: no problem12:06
ghbskon: Thanks.12:06
Coaghow can i trick a program into thinking my architecture is i386?12:06
SeveasDelvien, ubuntu dos not support vmware, vmware does not support Ubuntu, you're sort-of on your own there12:06
skoncoag, why?12:06
gnomefreakDelvien,  i dont use it but i can tell you one thing the kernel is pretty much stable its the apps that are not stable at all12:06
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psusicary, I'm not sure if it will automagically work out of the box from the installer, or you might have to manually install grub... which isn't that hard12:06
thegladiatorompaul, i didint do anything12:06
hegeniousdon't expect ndiswrapper to work right away you'll spend some time crunching it12:06
ompaulthegladiator, got a live cd ?12:06
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gnomefreaki suggest dont use it on dapper till atleast april :))12:06
thegladiatoryes i have live cd and install cd12:06
KarlosII_seveas12:06
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psusiTrueChaos, your descriptions are typical of a crashed drive, so I'd say that is what you've got12:06
ManifoldEr, out of interest, has anyone tried installing Enlightenment from apt?12:07
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Coagskon: because i can';t change these rpm's to debs on my amd64 system12:07
Delviengnomefreak its my primary hehe (i like having a goal in my DEs)12:07
carypsusi, cool. so grub Could be the next step. thats all i need to know. at least for my peace of mind...12:07
SeveasKarlosII, ?12:07
skonah ok12:07
thegladiatorManifold, yes i have12:07
midwinterCoag: running 64bit?  you have to run a 32 bit chroot12:07
hegeniousand then you'll need something like wpa_supplicant to auto enter the WPA key12:07
ScootaDootaDelvien, if you are desperate for vmware...I suggest trying Fedora Core12:07
ompaulthegladiator, boot with the live CD and check the md5sum for nautilus on the drive12:07
ManifoldDid it give you any trouble?12:07
DelvienSeveas aye but it configures fine in 2.6.15-9-386,12:07
Coagmidwinter: how do i manage that?12:07
Omeedskon, i statred it up in expert mode, but there is no option right there to install the boot loader. do i have to delve deeper in the process?12:07
KarlosII_seveas, I tried access the info on gpg validation fo the repository for nx, however your site was being finite in it's communication12:07
ompaulthegladiator, or do this12:07
DelvienScootaDoota i like ubuntu :)12:07
ManifoldBecause I tried the Elive CD and liked the eye candy, the--dud12:07
thegladiatorompaul, it was working tull now12:07
Manifoldthegladiator*12:07
SeveasKarlosII_, there are 2 commands, just run them :)12:07
psusicary, it certainly is possible to get working, it just might take some more effort than hitting ok a few times in the installer is all12:07
gnomefreakDelvien,  you can try filing a bug but they will more than likely tell you same thing that Seveas  did12:08
KarlosII_whcih are :P12:08
ompaulthegladiator, I'll give you the md5sum for that12:08
skonubotu: tell omeed about grub12:08
DelvienScootaDoota i had VMware up and running in 2.6.15-9-386, i upgraded to 10 and it stopped working12:08
midwinterCoag: take a look, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457512:08
Coagthank you12:08
thegladiatorompaul, nautilus was working fine12:08
ScootaDootaDelvien:  I like it too....but have to use Redhat/Fedora for vmware12:08
SeveasKarlosII, look at the top of mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl :)12:08
thegladiatortill now12:08
thegladiatorsuddenly it broke12:08
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DelvienScootaDoota ,,, it works in breezy just fine12:08
Syco54645can anyone recommend a program like konsole but for gnome?12:08
thegladiatordo you think md5 wud be the probkem ??12:08
doubhi there12:08
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gnomefreakDelvien, breezy is stable12:08
SeveasKarlosII_ just below the list of mirrors :)12:08
SweetestSavageDoes anyone know a good GNOME application that captures video via webcam?12:08
tonyyarussoI'm looking for someone who can tell me exactly what pressing Fn-F12 does on an IBM ThinkPad.  It's the shortcut for hibernating, but it doesn't work, while /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh does.12:08
Stormx2thegladiator: MD5 is never a problem. its an encryption.12:08
thegladiatorManifold, sorry i am in a big trouble . enlightenment worked but didnt like it much12:08
ompaulthegladiator, >>  md5sum /usr/bin/nautilus << gives this result >> c7381957a8760f7e46525a3772d254b712:08
mweSyco54645: you mean a terminal emulator? gnome-terminal12:09
Delviengnomefreak i know, he was telling me he has to use FC to use vmware12:09
Syco54645mwe, i want one with tabs12:09
Delviengnomefreak so i told him it works in breezy :P12:09
gnomefreakah12:09
Syco54645like konsole, sorry should have specified12:09
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ScootaDootaDelvien:  Ubuntu is very dynamic  in updates compared to Fedora and Redhat and it likely that Ubuntu is to advanced for vmware12:09
ompaulthegladiator, it will show if the file is the same file as I have here on breezy12:09
tonyyarussoSyco54645, gnome-terminal can do tabs.12:09
thegladiatorompaul, i did that in terminal ... now12:09
thegladiatoras thegladiator12:09
Signifer123well i have vmware running on my ubuntu box or does he want buntu on vmware?12:09
DelvienScootaDoota nah, i was just using it in my previous kernal im on 10, was in 912:09
mweSyco54645: I don't know any, sorry. I use screen instead12:10
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Delvienscootadoota IN ubuntu12:10
timfrostDelvien, the error apears to be a bug in the kernel headers package for 2.6.15-10-386. File a bug against that package12:10
Coagmidwinter: are you aware if it's the same with breezy12:10
thegladiatorand the result is 2c2f3c6e4d5c7974bc4eb3ad280df9a212:10
Syco54645tonyyarusso, ah ok i just got my computer working again after almost a year, tabs are a new thing.  thanks12:10
Coagsudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf12:10
Coag    * Add this line: hoary /chroot12:10
doubi'm trying to install ubuntu by hand, from the breezy live-cd. following the "ubuntu install guide" on the doc/install directory on the live cd. my problem is that as i'm on a chroot, udev can't be activated, and I lack some devices in /dev. how can i create them?12:10
Delvientimfrost any idea how i can reinstall 2.6.15-9-386? i dont see it in the synaptic12:10
Coagdo i jsut change that line?12:10
thegladiatorompaul, it was working perfect till now12:10
KarlosIIty seveas12:10
gnomefreakDelvien,  it could have worked on 2.6.15-9 than they patched the kernel and it affected vmware now12:10
ScootaDootaDelvien,, is you kernel built using an identical .config?12:10
SweetestSavageCoag, make sure you change all the "hoary" to breezy12:10
DelvienScootadoota aye12:10
SweetestSavageThat is, if you're using Breezy Ubuntu12:10
CoagSweetestSavage: that's what i thought12:10
Coagthanks12:10
thegladiatorand my breezy was checked for mf512:10
SweetestSavageNo problem12:10
midwinterCoag: ah, yes - just make sure you change all instances of hoary to breezy12:10
ColonelPaniqueGnarlyBob : /me shoots bird at l ron blubbard quote12:11
gnomefreakDelvien,  cant you just boot into it?12:11
Delviengnomefreak its borked, no wireless, no sound12:11
thegladiatorompaul, what about nautilus removal ?12:11
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thegladiatorand reinstallation ?12:11
gnomefreakahhhh12:11
Delviengnomefreak thats why i asked if i can reinstall12:11
thegladiatorhow can I do that ?12:11
ScootaDootaDelvien: must be the kernel patch then.......what does .10 give you over .9?12:11
gnomefreaktheres a kernel site grab the tar and get compiling?12:11
thegladiatorhow do i install natuilus from cd ?12:11
DelvienScootaDoota nothing from what i can see,12:11
hikenbootgnomefreak: I think there is an any-any patch that fixes problems not sure if it fixes it for that kernel but...12:11
gnomefreakScootaDoota, not much of anything12:11
Delvienhikenboot it doesnt12:11
tonyyarussoI know some of the keys on a ThinkPad go directly through the BIOS, like Fn-PgUp (Thinklight); so I don't really understand what the hibernate shortcut is doing, or where I could configure it to use the script that works instead.12:12
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Seveasthegladiator, apt-get install --reinstall nautilus12:12
gnomefreakDelvien, have you checked bugzilla yet?12:12
ompaulthegladiator, in a terminal >>sud apt-get --reinstall nautilus<<12:12
ScootaDootaDelvien: probably a bug fix in some highly obscure option that nobody really uses...but screws up your vmware!...can you revert to .9?12:12
butcherbirdSeveas: does that purge configs?12:12
ompaulthegladiator, in a terminal >>sudo apt-get --reinstall nautilus<<12:12
ManifoldWhat's the command to open a file in the default file browser?12:12
Seveasbutcherbird, no12:12
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Delviengnomefreak aye, no one has the same problem, but the guy i was chatting with last night installed kernal 10 and same prob came up,12:12
butcherbirdSeveas: ok12:12
KarlosIIis there a new faq/howto for java install for ubuntu?12:13
Delviengnomefreak i would like to go back to 2.6.15-9-386 but i need to reinstall so to speak12:13
gnomefreakDelvien,  it may block something that vmware uses with the iptables12:13
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ScootaDootaDelvien: what a reinstall?12:13
ompaulKarlosII, do >>/msg ubotu java <<to read the factoid12:13
Delviengnomefreak and formating and starting over is not a option12:13
crimsuntonyyarusso: in what sense?12:13
gnomefreakDelvien,  you need to compile the new one or start over :((12:13
ScootaDootaDelvien:  thats a bit extreme12:13
SweetestSavageDoes anyone know of a GNOME application (GUI of course) that captures video via a webcam or video recording device ??12:13
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gnomefreakthan cancel that latter12:14
DelvienScootaDoota i need to reinstall 2.6.15-9-386 kernal image, but i dont see it in the synaptic..12:14
Delviengnomefreak poopy :(12:14
ManifoldWhat's the command to open a file in the default file browser?12:14
stoneagewhat is a kernal?12:14
KarlosII!javadebs12:14
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy12:14
Delviena piece of corn :)12:14
ScootaDootaDelvien: hold on a sec12:14
thegladiatorgr8 news ompaul , reinstall did work12:14
Stormx2stoneage: Kernel is the root of ubuntu. Linux is a kernel.12:14
gnomefreakDelvien,  your not gonna find it in there get it from that kernel site that everyone uses12:14
david_m_estoneage, i can explain that if u like12:14
Seveasubotu, java =~ s/seveas/mirror2/12:14
ubotuSeveas: that doesn't contain 'seveas'12:14
gnomefreak!kernel12:14
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thegladiatorthanks Seveas and ompaul :)12:14
Delvien!kernel12:14
ompaulthegladiator, so log out and log in12:14
Delvien!kernal12:14
ubotuI haven't a clue, Delvien12:14
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thegladiatoryep12:15
TrueChaosHDD in the freezer, if this breaths some life back into it Im gonna be amazed12:15
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tonyyarussocrimsun: The basic scoop is that pressing Fn-F12 to hibernate doesn't work properly, but sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh does, so I want to change the keypress action to that, or modify the action called by the keypress to work like that script, and I'm trying to figure out if I can do that.12:15
Stormx2Delvien: Kernel with an "e"12:15
ghbskon: What the...?! The drivers from Intel are 44 MB large?!!12:15
Delviengnomefreak im guessing its not easy to do that way...12:15
ompaulthegladiator, more important how did it break - how old is your hard drive?12:15
Delvienstormx2 i know12:15
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Seveasubotu, javadebs =~ s/seveas/mirror2/12:15
ubotuOK, Seveas12:15
crimsuntonyyarusso: does System> Logout> Hibernate  work properly?12:15
Pygifreaky: ping12:15
Delvienghb thats because it includes the w32 Network intel/Pro/Wireless App12:16
tonyyarussocrimsun, I believe so, yes.  (Haven't been using it much as of late.)12:16
bshumatetonyyarusso:  have you looked into tpb ?12:16
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Coagmidwinter: it's a small world i actually know the guy that posted that chroot howto12:16
ghbDelvien: ... Oh. Very well, I'll just take it all...12:16
Delvienghb hehe:)12:16
gnomefreakDelvien,  here you go http://www.kernel.org/12:16
gnomefreakthats one site atleast12:16
tonyyarussobshumate, I have it.  I'm wondering if keys that were predefined somehow might work any differently.12:16
Pygifreaky: ping, why don't you respond? :P12:16
gnomefreakpong12:17
tonyyarussobshumate, I use it with XOSD for my volume buttons.12:17
gnomefreakwasnt here12:17
ScootaDootaDelvien: did you install the .10 kernel via apt, or compile it from source?12:17
ManifoldWhat's the command to open a file in the default file browser?12:17
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gnomefreakwas using google for someone12:17
david_m_ewhen i click on my linux box on the list of workgroup computers on my XP box, it asks me for a name and password, which fails when i use the same name/password for this session. Did i miss a step when configuring Samba to allow me to acces this box from my XP computer?12:17
Pygignomefreak: hehe, k :) code is updated today once again :)12:17
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carypsusi, so now im back to where i was (only this time in expert mode) and i still am a bit confused as to waht i need to do to make ubuntu be on hda6. currently its set to "use as fat32 file system". ...annnd...yeah. dont know what to do.12:17
ompaulManifold, depends on the file type12:17
bshumatetonyyarusso: i believe you can change the function of any of the buttons via a configuration file, can you not?12:17
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carypsusi, i mean do i delete the partition? i just dont know what to do to be like "yeah..this one..use it"12:17
DelvienScootaDoota apt12:17
Manifoldompaul, I want a command that opens up my HD's contents in my file browser.12:17
ompaulManifold, you can start with nautilus and it should trigger the correct app12:17
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DelvienScootaDoota dist-upgraded to it, without knowing it12:18
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tbwAnyone know what I need to do12:18
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psusicary, it sounds like you already have the disk partitioned the way you want, right?12:18
timfrostDelvien, I just checked the menu.lst in a dapper install ion a VM.  The -9 kernel is there.  I suggest you reboot and go into the grub menu12:18
Delviengnomefreak hmm thats wird not in ghter12:18
ManifoldAh, thanks, Omeed12:18
Manifoldompaul,12:18
ManifoldMeh.12:18
tonyyarussodavid_m_e, I had to have UNIX accounts with the same name and password as were on the Windows box.12:18
Delvientimfrost aye it is... but kernal9 is borked, i have no wireless , no bluetooth, and no sound12:18
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tbwTo get like basic development tools installed?12:18
david_m_etonyyarusso: where do i set those up?12:18
Delvientimfrost it installed with that12:18
tonyyarussobshumate, Unless those keys are somehow set up to bypass the OS, which they might be, as Fn-PgUp is.12:19
tbwI'm trying to build gtkpod and it's all sorts of broke ;)12:19
gnomefreakDelvien, make it work?12:19
carypsusi, yeah.12:19
ScootaDootaDelvien: bummer......shouldn't have to reinstall  though12:19
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carypsusi, so am i just dumb and doing a step i dont need ot?12:19
mikearthurhey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?12:19
psusicary, there should be a setting in the installer for the target location... tell it /dev/hda6... btw, are you sure about that location?  if this is the second drive in the system it shold be hdb not hda12:19
butcherbirdtbw: sudo apt-get install build-essential?12:19
Delviengnomefreak lol sorry , wasnt looking at keyboard.... I said , wierd its not in there12:19
tbwbutcherbird, : That's what I'll ttry12:19
tonyyarussodavid_m_e, First, in System > Administration > Users and Groups, and then you'll need to add matching accounts to smb.12:19
tbwIt's already installed.12:19
ompaulManifold, nautilus is the browser in gnome is it what you want?12:19
tbwI need gnome-development stuff12:20
david_m_etonyyarusso: thanks, i'll have a look12:20
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tbwI'm missing a lot of different m4 macros12:20
LordMelkoris it possible to access files from another partition12:20
ManifoldYups, ompaul, thanks.12:20
tbwconfig.sub config.guess -- stuff like that12:20
LordMelkorwith ubuntu installed separately12:20
sda3monokay i just upgraded to a newer 2.6 kernel and now i cant use shift+pgup to scroll up in a terminal...i get "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)" and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known"12:20
tonyyarussoIs there something I could run that would either tell me what Fn-F12 was calling without actually doing it, or at least log it so I could check after bringing the system back up?12:21
ompaulManifold, I did not understand the meh for a min or so - there it was your typo - better not to type anything to correct it :) you had me confused12:21
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carypsusi, well maybe the drive im booting win2k on is the second drive? but the win2k drive is 40 gb and the 'second drive' is 60, roughly partitioned in 3rds. the smallest of which is 18 million raw open bytes orwhatever12:21
tonyyarussoLordMelkor, Yes, you just have to modify your /etc/fstab and mount the partition you want access to.12:21
carypsusi, and thats the one i want. i checked their totaly byte space in windows12:21
LordMelkorhow do i do that12:21
sda3monLordMelkor: what partition are you trying to access?12:21
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sda3monLordMelkor: do you understand the whole /dev/hd* setup?12:22
ManifoldI didn't understand your last sentence, ompaul, for a few seconds. I still don't. ;] 12:22
matthew_wCould someone help me with setting up a home network, on one Ubuntu PC, and one Windows?  I have no idea where to even begin...12:22
butcherbirdLordMelkor: depends on parition type windows (ntfs) etc12:22
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gnomefreak!network12:22
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.12:22
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LordMelkorwhat happend is that i some how messed up my fist ubuntu installation so that it cant log in unless you ar e root, so what i did was i reinstalled ubuntu on this computer making a new partition for it12:22
Jowihello everyone. is there any development still going on for sawfish? The sourceforge page seem to stop after 2003. does anyone have sawfish-themer that works with the sawfish version that exist in universe?12:22
LordMelkorhowever i have some important files on the first partition12:22
Manifoldubotu has a great sense of humour.12:22
ubotuManifold: Do they come in packets of five?12:22
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tonyyarussoWait, I think I found it.  /var/log/acpid.  It shows it calling the lid script instead of hibernate.12:23
ubotu[midi]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo12:23
LordMelkorthat i would like to copy to this partition, and then delet the first partiotion to free up space12:23
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carypsusi, under "[!!]  Partition Disks" which option am i looking for tell it where to target?12:23
matthew_wgnomefreak; well.. that wasn't really a whole lot of help.12:23
matthew_wlol12:23
ompaulManifold, your meh was why I asked were you okay then I figured out why you had typed it, better not to :-) that is all12:23
sda3monLordMelkor: what partition is it? you need something like "mount -t ext2 /dev/hda? /mnt/hda?"12:23
psusicary, you don't want to partition at all... you want to install to existing partitions12:23
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Pygiubotu tell bud_ about midi12:23
gnomefreakmatthew_w, sorry i didnt knwo he didnt give a link12:23
matthew_wgnomefreak; lol it's ok.12:24
matthew_wI kind of figured.12:24
gnomefreakmatthew_w,  do you have a router?12:24
carypsusi, well i skiped the partitioning and it said i hadnt selected a target or something like that12:24
tonyyarussoHow can I check the HOTKEY number of a keypress?12:24
ManifoldAha, I understand now, ompal12:24
LordMelkorsda3mon im new to linux sorry :( im not quite sure what u are talking about12:24
psusicary, also you should verify that you have the right location... hit alt+right arrow to switch terminals... get to the one that says press enter to activate this terminal.. do so... then type fdisk -l /dev/hda12:24
ScootaDootaDelvien:  are you still around?12:24
tonyyarussoOr grab keycodes for that matter.12:24
sda3monwell what partition are you trying to access? For example, the first partition on the first hard disk? or what?12:24
sda3monLordMelkor: ^12:25
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psusicary, I'm not sure exactly how, but you need to choose the option to install to an existing partition12:25
LordMelkorsda3mon yes im pretty sure its the first partition12:25
matthew_wgnomefreak; yes12:25
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carypsusi, hitting help now. hah.12:25
gnomefreakmatthew_w, what do you want a network for to mount windows drive from linux? to print?12:26
matthew_wgnomefreak; I'm sharing an i-net connection, that's working, I'm just wondering how I can get my Ubuntu box to share files w/ my other windoze boxen12:26
matthew_wgnomefreak; send files b/w the two12:26
OmeedI looked at this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to fix my grub installation, but the problem is that i dont have a hda3, i have hda1, 2, and 5. i dont know which ones i should mount12:26
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ManifoldI'm really starting to like Linux.12:27
gnomefreak!share12:27
ubotugnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?12:27
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gnomefreakubotu tell matthew_w about mount12:27
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sda3monLordMelkor: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login to the terminal...then type "mkdir /mnt/hda1", press enter...then "mount -r -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" and hit enter...then press CTRL+ALT+F712:27
Manifold!network12:27
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.12:27
butcherbirdOmeed: you are on livecd?12:27
Omeedbutcherbird, yes12:27
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matthew_wgnomefreak; well, if I mount it, doesn't that mean I can only send files to IT and it can't send files to -me- ?12:28
psusiOmeed, mount whichever partition you have linux installed on12:28
tonyyarussoOmeed, See if you can tell what's what in the output of fdisk, cfdisk, or the like if you don't know.12:28
butcherbirdOmeed: if u type sudo fdisk -l should list your paritions. what partition was ubuntu under?12:28
matthew_wgnomefreak; besides, where would I mount it?  Like, what would the mount path be?12:28
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Omeedubuntu was under kda1, but which one is /boot under12:28
ScootaDootaDelvian: you can get new kernel image at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-38612:28
Omeedis it just somewhere in hdb1?12:28
DelvienScootaDoota yes im here12:29
ScootaDootaDelvian: you can get new kernel image at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-38612:29
psusiOmeed, then use hda1...the default installer doesn't make a seperate /boot partition12:29
butcherbirdOmeed: never fixed using the wiki here is how i do it: type sudo grub12:29
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tonyyarussoOmeed, /boot will be under the same as / unless you specified otherwise at install.12:29
carypsusi, i have IDE1 master as that is my 60 gig listed as hda, and my other drive with win2k listed as hdc. there i no hdb12:29
ScootaDootaDelvien you need to install the package from the from the command line12:29
sda3moni just upgraded from linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 to linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 and now i cant use Shift+PgUp to scroll up in terminals, can anybody help me?12:30
Omeedpsusi butcherbird, i am in the grum command line12:30
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butcherbirdOmeed: once in grub type root (hd0,0) then enter then type setup (hd0) should say it setup correctly12:30
Delvienscootadoota what is it?12:30
psusicary, ok... great... then tell the installer to install to an existing partition... let it format it12:30
gnomefreakmatthew_w, if you want to use windows to send file to ubuntu you need to find a windows program that is compatible with linux12:30
Friar_tuckwhat is the best hardware ip phone for ubuntu?12:30
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ScootaDootaits a .deb package that contains the kernel image you need i.e. 2.6.12.912:31
matthew_wgnomefreak; or use the winbox to set up an FTP then download the files?12:31
gnomefreaksomething like ssh12:31
caryphew. i dont knwo whats going on now but i may be in fact installing12:31
Omeedbutcherbird, when i type in root(hd0,0) it says Unrecognized cmmand12:31
Delvienscootadoota can you send it again12:31
ColonelPaniqueFriar_tuck : Cisco 764012:31
carywell i know i am installing, but im just now sure if its right., psusi12:31
butcherbirdOmeed: BUT you will need to add windows manually it u do this put a space setup (hd0)12:31
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psusiOmeed, you need a space between root and (12:31
ScootaDootaDelvien: it should just be a link to the website:12:31
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tonyyarussoWhy would my /etc/acpi/actions/ only contain three files, lm_ac_adapter.sh, lm_battery.sh, and lm_lid.sh?  There are more scripts in its parent directory.12:31
Delvienscootadoota can you link me it in here? didnt recieve it12:32
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ScootaDootaits http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-38612:32
ManifoldDoes anyone use mail notification here? How can you get it sit in your notification tray?12:32
ScootaDootaDelvien: does that appear?12:32
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Omeedbutcherbird, alright it checked as bunch of things, and says done, does that mean its installed properly?12:32
mike_ndiswrapper sucks12:33
butcherbirdOmeed: yes try reboot12:33
psusiManifold, I usually just leave thunderbird running... sometimes I just minimize it, and sometimes I put it on another virtual desktop12:33
butcherbirdOmeed: w/o cd12:33
Delvienscootadoota thats it, thanks bro12:33
carypsusi, fantastic. base system installation error12:33
tonyyarussoI have this in /etc/acpi/events/ibm-hibernate:12:33
ManifoldThunderbird is too bloated just to check my gmail account.12:33
tonyyarussoevent=(ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)12:33
tonyyarussoaction=/etc/acpi/ibm-hibernate.sh12:33
ManifoldI prefer the webbased interface anyhow.12:33
psusicary, oh?  what's the error?12:33
ScootaDootadelvian: do you know how to install it?12:33
carypsusi, the debootstrap program exited with an error (value 1)12:33
carysaid to check /target/blabhabl   log for errors12:34
DelvienScootaDoota sudo dpkg -i <filename> aye :)12:34
psusicary, hrm... hit alt-right arrow to cycle over to the tty with details12:34
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tonyyarussoThat is the correct HKEY for my Fn-F12, so why isn't just calling that script what it does?  (Calling the script manually from a command line works perfectly, resuming from the shortcut is buggy.)12:34
gnomefreakDelvien,  i didnt see a .deb on that site12:34
ScootaDootaDelvien: cool12:34
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gnomefreaki saw a tar12:34
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Delviengnomefreak on the one scoota gave me? you have to download it from a mirror12:35
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ghbIs there any command do see what modules are currently loaded?12:35
carytar: ./usr/share/man/man3/Locale: :gettext.3pm.gz: invalid argument    psusi12:35
carythat kind of thing?12:35
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PhiniteI need to partition an existing windows drive and I've been told I can do it after booting to an Ubuntu live disk.  how do I do this?12:35
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gnomefreakahhhhhh i see it12:36
psusihrm... odd... switch to the tty with the shell and run df... what's the line with /target say?12:36
gnomefreakok back to not being here12:36
carypsusi and there is some sort of long list of 'no volume groups found" and "no matching physical volumes found" above that ...?12:36
LordMelkorahh he left12:36
leagrisAnyone here is a firefox mozilla expert ?12:36
HymnToLifePhinite > use the GParted tool12:36
PhiniteHymnToLife: where do I find it?12:36
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carypsusi, i dont understand12:36
Omeedbutcherbird, it did not work, windows still booted up12:36
HymnToLifeAppliations > Sytem tools12:36
LordMelkorcan someone who has been here for a while paste what sd3mon had told me to do earlier?12:36
gnomefreak#firefox12:36
Jowitonyyarusso: I don't have a keyboard/acpi that uses those functions, but... have you tried to bind the key to that script, for example in the gnome-keyboard properties?12:36
Friar_tuckis there a version of skypemate for linux?12:36
psusicary, if you use alt-right arrow ( or left ) to cycle through the ttys, one should start off just saying "press enter to activate this terminal" or something12:36
leagrisI have an issue with proxy.pac not working with Dapper packaged Firefox 1.5 not loading my proxy.pac file. It worked fine with FF 1.0.712:37
tonyyarussoJowi: No, where would that be?12:37
psusicary, press enter, and type "df" and enter... look for the line with /target in it and tell me what it says12:37
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tonyyarussoJowi: It should also work outside of Gnome though.12:37
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LordMelkoranyone?12:37
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carypsusi, uh...none start with /target but there is something way on the right that gets cut off that looks like it says /target12:38
butcherbirdOmeed: should work if sudo fdisk -l shows your parition for ubuntu then repeat hda1 will equal (hd0,0) hda2 will be (hd0,1) etc12:38
psusicary, if it gets cut off, it is continued on the next line12:38
leagrisLordLucless, at white time from GMT did it answered you. I can search my irc logs ?12:38
carypsusi, things listed: filesystem, tmpfs, none, none, /dev etc12:38
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tonyyarussoleagris, No expert, but I use it a lot, and I know the firefox channel is usually dead.  What's the question?  (Small chance I can help, but maybe someone will know if you ask.)12:39
butcherbirdOmeed: make sure when you setup you type just 'setup (hd0)'12:39
carypsusi, ahh..thats waht that random t is (though half the g and the e are still gone). it says 1% /target12:39
sighey guys I'm having huge issues with my laptop, after a few minutes everything switches to read-only. I ran memtest and it didn't find anything wrong with my memory, is this because the HD is going bad?12:39
ManifoldAdios.12:39
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ScootaDootabutcherbird: cfdisk is much nicer to use12:39
psusicary, ok... on the same line is the device... is it /dev/hda6?12:39
SillyZCoag, thanks that was exactly what I needed for the radeon setup, works slick now!12:39
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leagristonyyarusso, I ned a PAC (Proxy Auto Configuration) javascript file so some corporate intranet goes through a proxy ad others connexions go direct to the net12:40
Omeedbutcherbird, when i use the setup command, the parameter should be the ubuntu hard drive or the windows one? windows is my primary hard drive and is the master not the slave12:40
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Danl[1] whats the command to view ip info in console?12:40
dop182putz! this channel is English12:40
Jowitonyyarusso: if i remember it correctly, should be in either gnome-keyboard-properties or gnome-keybinding-properties (haven used gnome for ages). for X in general I *think* the xbkevd handles the events. xkbwatch should give you an indicator if it reacts at all when you press a key (should light a led if you press the Win key for example)12:40
sagarpi have a folder of .deb files....what do i write in sources.list to make it an apt-get source?!12:40
carythis is what it says, on that same line, which is incidentally the last line (psusi)12:40
CoagSillyZ: awesome12:40
butcherbirdOmeed: setup should just be hd0 because we are not installing to a partiiton but just to the mbr of the hd12:40
dop182i dont't speek english12:40
Jrex-Linux:O12:40
Jrex-LinuxCoag!12:40
leagristonyyarusso, my proxy.pac file worked with FF 1.0.7 but it is ignored or ont loaded by FF 1.5 Deer Park packaged for Ubuntu Dapper12:40
dop182bye12:40
cary/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 1765478412:40
CoagJrex-Linux: hello12:40
cary etc12:40
caryoops12:41
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Hobbseesagarp: why not just run sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the folder?12:41
mwesagarp: I don't think you can. use sudo dpkg -i foo.deb to install12:41
cary/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 17654784    psusi12:41
tonyyarussoleagris, Beyond my scope, never dealt with a proxy.  Maybe someone has though.12:41
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strohmoin12:41
butcherbirdOmeed: an example for me would be root (hd0,1) then setup (hd0)12:41
Jrex-LinuxSeveas is so nice, he logged into my system and fixed sudo, Coag12:41
SillyZnow if I can figure out why Im getting a bad EOF while downloading vmware from tucows ill be set12:41
sagarphobbsee well i just formatted and i copied my archives folder...if i do dpkg -i * it complains about dependencies because of the order in which it goes =X12:41
psusicary, oh my... hrm... did you upgrade this disk to "dynamic disk" in windows?12:41
SeveasJrex-Linux, and messed up your CS server ;)12:41
ghbI just don't get it. What do I have to do to be able to use encrypted WLAN...?12:41
Omeedbutcherbird, i understand hat, however my windows computer, which is the MBR is hda whereas my ubuntu is hdb, so im just wondering if that makes any difference12:41
carypsusi. ahahahahahaahah what?12:41
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tonyyarussoJowi: Don't have a Win key to test your example.  Will look through those things.  What if X isn't up at all, just virtual terminals?12:42
leagristonyyarusso, I searched for simmilar bugs on bugzilla.mozilla.org but only found simmilar issue resolved by rebooting a Windows system :/ proxy.pac not loaded12:42
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CoagJrex-Linux: i had no clue sudo was broken for you?12:42
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Dreamgliderdoes anyone here have vice installed on ubuntu ?12:42
psusicary, that is one weird name for the device... my only guess as to why is that it's a dynamic disk...12:42
carypsusi, shoudl i just go back and format that disk? should it be fat 32? it MAY be ntfs12:42
Hobbseesagarp: and if you stick them in the folder where the install debs normally go, then upgrade, what happens?12:42
butcherbirdOmeed: ah well whichever the bios is booting which in your case seems to be hd012:42
sagarphobbsee, ? which folder is that?12:42
leagristonyyarusso, proxy.pac is an underdocumented and quite edged feature that allow a callback javascript to redefine if an URL is to go dirrectly to net or through a given proxy12:43
psusicary, the installer should have formatted it for you didn't it?  type mount and find the line for /target... it should mention "ext3"12:43
Friar_tuckhow do i install a .deb?12:43
Hobbseesagarp: /var/cache/apt/archives12:43
Phinit1I've booted to the ubuntu live disk, but I can't find QTParted, or GParted.  does anyone know where the partitioning tools are?12:43
Hobbsee!tell Friar_tuck about deb12:43
Friar_tuckthanks12:43
mweFriar_tuck: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb12:43
sagarphobbsee oh :P12:43
sagarplet me try it12:43
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Jrex-LinuxCoag, I screwed up my /bin, therefor messing up sudo badly12:43
Dreamer_ukSeveas, I am reloading from scratch, is the wiki howto still the best howto for freenx on ubuntu?12:43
butcherbirdOmeed: it would be then root (hd1,0) setup (hd0)  hd1 would be hdb12:43
Omeedah ok12:44
Jowitonyyarusso: don't really know. I havent tried to configure that. maybe have a look at packages "keymapper" "hotkey-setup" and maybe even "hotkeys".12:44
carypsusi, i see nothing anywhwer after typing mount on that tty (?) that says ext312:44
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Omeedbutcherbird, and then just reboot?12:44
caryexample of what i see: tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw)12:44
butcherbirdOmeed: assuming hdb1 is the ubuntu install yes12:44
caryoops.. i forgot to say psusi again12:45
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tonyyarussoJowi: Okay.12:45
mweJrex-Linux: if you screwed up /bin I don't think there's much to do but reinstall12:45
hydroksydehmm... xubuntu, ubunut, kubunut, edubuntu... what's next, GNUStubuntu???12:45
psusicary, there should be a line like this: /that/long/crazy/device/path/you/pasted/earlier on /target type ext3 (rw)12:45
carypsusi, trying osmething12:45
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Jowi!info hotkey-setup12:45
Jrex-Linuxlol12:45
psusicary, instead of ext3 it might be reiserfs12:45
psusiif you chose that option12:45
Jrex-Linuxwell I only screwed up the permisions to /bin12:45
mweJrex-Linux: how?12:45
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Jowitonyyarusso: "hotkeys" look most promising at first glance12:46
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carypsusi, /that/long/path on /target type vfat is all i see12:46
mweJrex-Linux: all the files in there or just the dir?12:46
tonyyarussoAll right, question that sounds complicated to me, but might seem simpler to you:  As someone new to Linux, I've sort of been learning by breaking things some of the time.  I'm thinking about just backing up files and doing a clean install.  If possible, I'd like to avoid downloading all of my new programs and updates all over again.  Can I back up some of those too, and have apt upgrade from the backup for things that12:46
tonyyarusso exist in there?  (I'd only be doing some of them this way most likely.)12:46
Omeedbutcherbird, thank you so much, it is working now12:46
Phinit1I bounced and missed any answer to the question about where to find gparted, or qtparted12:46
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Seveashydroksyde, gnubuntu as fsf-pure Ubuntu variant is being discussed12:46
psusicary, ohh my, that's the problem.. you didn't get setup to format the partition, so it is fat instead of a real linux filesystem12:46
caryafter vfat it says (rw, nodiratime, fmas[cut off] )12:46
DelvienScootaDoota when i install this it wont screw with my current kernal correct?12:46
carypsusi, ah12:46
butcherbirdOmeed: good to know :) did u have an option for booting windows?12:46
Jrex-Linuxmwe, yup, all the files12:47
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carychanging to ext3 now psusi12:47
hydroksydeSeveas, I meant ubuntu with a GNUStep based desktop12:47
tonyyarussoPhinit1, gparted is in main.12:47
sagarphobbsee it's just getting data from the web =/12:47
Omeedbutcherbird, yes and they all work well.12:47
psusicary, there should have been an option to format it in setup... but you can do it from the shell12:47
carypsusi, the mount point should be "/" right?12:47
Hobbseesagarp: darn!12:47
mweJrex-Linux: how are the perms fscked ?12:47
psusicary, eh? what are you doing?12:47
hydroksydeSeveas, Windowmaker, GWorkSpace,etc.12:47
Phinit1tonyyarusso: I'll look again, hang on12:47
carypsusi, im back in set up12:47
sagarphobbsee ordinarily i woudlnt care, but i'm home for xmas and the internet is sloow =/12:47
psusicary, oh ok, you are finding the optiopns to have setup format the partition?12:47
carypsusi, im back in set up, setting that part to ext3. and im wondering what the mount poitn should read.12:48
ScootaDootaDelvien: should be fine12:48
psusicary, otherwise you can do it from the shell easily12:48
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psusicary, should be / I believe12:48
tonyyarussosagarp, Same issue here.  Dialup is making me wary of trying to get anything done.12:48
carypsusi, trying.12:48
Jrex-Linuxmwe, I changed all the permisions to just give access to only the regular user12:48
sagarptonyyarusso =/ it's no fun12:48
mweJrex-Linux: can you boot into single user mode (rescue)12:48
mweJrex-Linux: bad idea!12:48
Jrex-LinuxI know, but its already fixxed12:48
mweJrex-Linux: _never_ mess with /bin /sbin /usr and the like12:48
Jrex-Linuxk12:49
Phinit1tonyyarusso: I can't find it.  I'm using a 5.04 disk12:49
ScootaDootaDelvien: your current kernel should remain...the new one installed and then the links should be added automatically in the grun config12:49
whoppixhey, my friend has a problem getting his sound card with ubuntu to work... alsamixer says: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory", and we dont know how to work out this problem... maybe anyone can help out?12:49
mweJrex-Linux: it's fixed?12:49
tonyyarussoPhinit1, 5.10 here, but you can check where it should be for Hoary at http://packages.ubuntu.com/12:49
DelvienScootaDoota aye it did, hopefully it fixed my wireless card not being found in kernel 912:49
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crimsunwhoppix: which sound card does he use?12:50
Jrex-Linuxmwe, yes, Seveas loged into my comp and fixed it12:50
whoppixcrimsun, one moment, plz12:50
mweJrex-Linux: I see. good12:50
tonyyarussoI've gotten to like the permissions concept in Linux.  How can I make files saved on a USB drive from Linux still be restricted-access if the drive is opened on a Windows machine?12:50
whoppixcrimsun, something onboard... we try to find out with dmesg12:50
DelvienScootaDoota brb in 8 mins if it doesnt work12:51
crimsunwhoppix: lspci -v|grep -i audio12:51
psusitonyyarusso, you don't... windows doesn't have such concepts12:51
whoppixcrimsun, thx12:51
ScootaDootaDelvien: fingers crossed.....12:51
psusitonyyarusso, you can format the disk with a linux filesystem like ext3 and it will remember the owner and permissions you set... but windows won't read it at all12:51
whoppixcrimsun, ICH6 Family is that the information you want?12:52
tonyyarussopsusi: What if the Windows box had the ext2/3 driver?12:52
crimsunwhoppix: I need more than just ICH612:52
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whoppixcrimsun, ok12:52
crimsunwhoppix: lsmod|grep ^snd_intel8x012:52
ghb_I've tried everything! My encrypted WLAN just won't work. Unencrypted, it does, but then anyone can surf on my network...12:53
Kindredtonyyarusso: then the permissions wont work12:53
tonyyarussoKindred, It'll still be dumb and open everything?12:53
crimsunghb_: did you use WPA?12:53
whoppixcrimsun,  Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) <<that?12:53
Kindredtonyyarusso, yep12:53
ghb_crimsun: No, just WEP.12:53
tonyyarussoKindred, Geez.12:53
crimsunwhoppix: yes.12:53
Dreamglideri just downloaded the VICE (commodore emu) and did ./configure i get this -> http://pastebin.com/48788412:54
tehdotanybody have any luck getting a netgear wg511 v2 working in ubuntu?12:54
crimsunghb_: install wpasupplicant and edit /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf12:54
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Syco54645what is the link that is like gentoo-portage for ubuntu?12:54
mark3lguauu12:54
ghb_crimsun: Is that better than WEP?12:54
OmeedDreamglider, do you have gcc installed?12:54
tonyyarussoI had a program to hide a partition on my flash drive (Imation) until running it and entering a password, but that didn't run in Linux, so I was hoping I had another option.12:54
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mweDreamglider: why didn't you just sudo apt-get install vice?12:54
crimsunghb_: in many respects, yes.12:55
whoppixcrimsun, whats now? is its possible to solve this problem without recompiling the kernel?12:55
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Dreamglidermwe, is it in a repo ?12:55
mweDreamglider: yeah. in universe12:55
Dreamglidersweet12:55
mwe!tell Dreamglider about universe12:55
crimsunwhoppix: lsmod|grep ^snd_hda_intel12:55
ghb_crimsun: Umm. I set the access point to use WPA, but now I can't enter a password or anything. =(12:55
Delviendootascoota didnt work and 2.6.15-9 is now unbootable12:55
tonyyarussomwe, I see it as multi.12:55
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mwetonyyarusso: ok12:55
carypsusi, this may be an obvious thing, but its telling me there are three kernels. does it matter which i use? linux-386, linux-image-386, linux-image-2.6.12-938612:55
Delviendootascoota thats alright , ill just wait till they fix the issue with vmware12:56
mweDreamglider: multiverse it is12:56
crimsunghb_: most APs have a wired iface, too12:56
mwe!tell Dreamglider about multiverse12:56
Delviendootascoota sucks though because my Mp3 player needs windows to put mp3s on it12:56
crimsunghb_: use that to configure your AP12:56
cmathesoncary: linux-image-386 is just a package that installs linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 (the newest kernel)12:56
whoppixcrimsun, outputs nothing12:56
crimsunwhoppix: which command?12:56
whoppixcrimsun, lsmod|grep ^snd_hda_intel12:56
carycmatheson, so should i select the last one? its asking me to pick on12:56
cmathesoncary: sure12:57
skon12-9 is the newest kernel?12:57
crimsunwhoppix: ok. Try: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel12:57
tonyyarussoDelvien, does it actually, or does the box claim it does?  My sister's says that, so I'm going to check it out one of these days to see if Linux can just treat it like any USB drive.12:57
ghb_crimsun: I'm using that, but, my point is--how do I set a password? The configuration tool doesn't allow me to set a password when I choose WPA. How will I know what to use?12:57
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SillyZQ: is it possible to resize a reiserfs partition thats already installed?12:57
Dreamglidermwe, it's installed, now where do i start it ?12:57
Delvientonyyarusso it doesnt treat it like its a USBdrive..12:57
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cmathesonSillyZ: hmm, parted may be able to do it12:57
whoppixcrimsun, FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.12:57
crimsunskon: in Breezy, 2.6.12-10.2512:57
mweskon: no 2.6.15-rc7 is but I think 2.6.12 is the newest in ubuntu repos12:57
Delvientonyarusso what mp3player does your sis use?12:57
mweDreamglider: type vice in a console I guess12:58
ScootaDootaDelvien: bollox......are you booting with the .10 kernel?12:58
crimsunwhoppix: uname -r12:58
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skonthat's what I thought, I wasn't sure why he said 2.6.12-9 was the newest12:58
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DelvienScootaDoota now i am ,12:58
gthbGood evening12:58
mweDreamglider: use dpkg -L vice|grep bin to find the binaries12:58
tahorghi, is there any unofficial dapper repository with gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad available ?12:58
whoppixcrimsun, 2.6.10-5-38612:58
ScootaDootaDelvien: dis it give yoiu the otion to boot the .9 kernel?12:58
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crimsunwhoppix: he's using Hoary?12:59
ghb_crimsun: There's a WPA-PSK, with an option to set a pass phrase. Should I use that?12:59
strohjep12:59
whoppixcrimsun, i think so... wait a second12:59
bloodnikCan someone suggest me a package I might install so I can set up my box as an HTTP proxy?12:59
Delvienscootadoota yeah boots into a shell script though12:59
crimsunghb_: yes.12:59
crimsunwhoppix: any reason he's not using at least Breezy?12:59
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whoppixcrimsun, yes, he is using ubuntu hoary hedgehog12:59
ScootaDootaDelvien:  ???...how do you mean shell script...what excactly comes up?12:59
PhiniteI can't find gparted on the ubuntu live (5.04) disk at all.  parted is there, but it doesn't work with NTFS partitions.  my goal is to resize the main NTFS partition on the drive to be smaller12:59
mweskon: I see linux-image-2.6.12-10-38601:00
psusitonyyarusso, then windows would be able to read the disk just fine01:00
Dreamglidermwe, is there no gui for vice ?01:00
whoppixcrimsun, he say the breezy server was too slow oO01:00
johan_qtparted?01:00
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sagarper01:00
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mweDreamglider: I don't know. I dont use it01:00
whoppixcrimsun, should he install breezy?01:00
sagarpis there a way to remove packages using .deb files01:00
Phinitecouldn't find that either johan_01:00
DelvienScootadoota it says something along the lines of it cant boot into the kernal, Fail, booting into built in shell script (has a name cant remember it )01:00
skonmwe: I know....I was correct cmatheson.....I use that one too01:00
Dreamgliderhttp://pastebin.com/48789201:00
crimsunwhoppix: he doesn't _have_ to, but it will help01:00
skoncorrecting*01:00
psusicary, I am surprised it is asking you that... there is only one real choice... the other two are just meta packages that depend on the real image... go with linux-38601:01
johan_Phinite: apt-cache search qtpart?01:01
tonyyarussoHow do I configure a microphone/line in jack?01:01
Phinitechecking now01:01
ScootaDootaDelvien: okay.....can you  change to /boot01:01
crimsuntonyyarusso: clarify?01:01
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ScootaDootaDelvien: in a terminal01:01
Jowitonyyarusso: alsamixer :)01:01
Adrianahello01:01
psusiPhinite, the livecd has gparted right there on the main applications menu01:01
Jowihello Adriana01:01
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carypsusi, haha. i went with the last one based on what the other person said. seems to work though i guess. ?01:01
mebaran151I am running Ubuntu6401:01
mebaran151but I would like to use Eclipse, which does not seem to work01:02
mebaran151and develop Java applications01:02
carypsusi, im now installing the remaining packages so everything seems to be okayu01:02
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tonyyarussocrimsun, Plugged something in to the little spot with the mic picture on my comp, next the the headphones jack, for the first time, and didn't hear anything.  Wondering why.01:02
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psusicary, yea... but if you installed the one with the really long name, you won't automatically upgrade when newer kernels come out... but that doesn't happen often01:02
Delvienscootadoota command for that is?01:02
mwemebaran151: it works fine for me.01:02
Jowitonyyarusso: "alsamixer" chose the mix and press "M" to unmute it.01:02
whoppixcrimsun, ok, he will install breezy *g*01:02
linlini have a 64bit cpu...and alot of apps dont run or compile right because of it, is there a way i can just load in all the 32bit libraries on top of the 64 bit ones so stuff works, while still using a 64bit kernel?01:02
mwemebaran151: I downloaded and installed myself to get the latest version, though01:02
strohrofl01:03
carypsusi...hmmm...is that problematic? is it worth going through this again to install to taht one?01:03
tonyyarussoJowi: How do I tell which one I want?  There are like four that sound possible.01:03
Jowitonyyarusso: also crank up the volume on it. that's it. save the setting with "sudo alsactl store"01:03
ScootaDootaDelvien: sorry.....open up a terminal from the applications > system tools menu at the top menu bar01:03
carypsusi, and will i be able to upgrade at all?01:03
whoppixcrimsun, thx for the help :)01:03
strohwhy do you loughin whoppix?01:03
Jowitonyyarusso: try one after the other. the change is instantanious01:03
mebaran151mwe, oh do tell01:03
tonyyarussoJowi: All right.01:03
mebaran151do I need to get the official Blackdown JRE01:03
mwemebaran151: what01:03
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mebaran151how to setup up Eclipse on AMD6401:03
DelvienScootaDoota im a mid level linux user, the onlything i dont know how to do in linux is the really hard stuff. ( to save you time)01:04
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mebaran151I want to do some Java Devel on my 64 bit workhorse01:04
crimsuntonyyarusso: make sure you unmute and toggle the mic in the Capture view, too.01:04
tonyyarussoJowi: Can I raise the volume on things in alsamixer, and how?01:04
mwemebaran151: oh. sorry. missed the AMD64 part01:04
tonyyarussocrimsun, The what?01:04
Jowitonyyarusso: yep. up/down arrow01:04
ScootaDootaDelvien: no probs....so you have your terminal01:04
Delvienaye01:04
crimsuntonyyarusso: F4 in alsamixer.01:04
psusicary, naw... don't worry about it01:04
mwemebaran151: have you tried just downloading it and untarring to /opt ?01:04
mebaran151oh01:05
mebaran151no01:05
mebaran151I haven't01:05
painkiler_does anyone have a copy of source.list?01:05
painkiler_i messsed mine up01:05
mebaran151does AMD64 havea working Java solution though?01:05
crimsun!tell painkiler_ about repos01:05
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tonyyarussocrimsun, Okay, now how do I do it there?01:05
ghb_crimsun: I don't see how WEP is any different or better than WPA. They look and seem to work the same, in my opinion. =/01:05
mwepainkiler_: next time back it up before you mess with it, please01:05
crimsunghb_: WPA is better than WEP.01:05
Delvienghb_ WEP is easily cracked.01:05
gthbghb_, WEP is a weak encryption algorithm01:06
tehdotcan anybody help me get ndiswrapper working?01:06
mwe!ndiswrapper01:06
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:06
mwetehdot: look at that01:06
Jowitonyyarusso: hmmm, F4 does not work for me in alsamixer... "Mic" should be the one you would want to alter. alsamixer may have more options for you if you just scroll right.01:06
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crimsuntonyyarusso: in Capture view, toggle (space bar) Capture so that it reads "capture"01:06
ghb_gthb: Ah, thanks. =)01:06
mebaran151ghb_, wpa is easier to use (you don't have to use random hex as your pword)01:06
mebaran151AND01:06
mweJowi: waht's f4 supposed to do in alsamixer?01:07
crimsuntonyyarusso: and of course set the level01:07
Dreamer_ukSeveas, are you about?01:07
Jowimwe: no idea01:07
ghb_mebaran151: This is true... WPA, for the win!01:07
ScootaDootaDelvien: cd /boot01:07
mebaran151wpa changes your pasword every day01:07
mebaran151or however01:07
painkiler_it is actually the begining of the source.list the deb cdrom: bit01:07
Jowimwe: maybe they were talking about something else i didn't follow01:07
mebaran151it uses a preshared key to share the encryption it actually uses01:07
painkiler_i dont know the name of the cd01:07
ghb_mebaran151: What? I have to change my password every day!? =(01:07
mebaran151ghb_, no01:07
mebaran151that's the point01:07
mebaran151it uses a preshared key you make up01:07
ghb_mebaran151: *phew*01:07
DelvienScootaDoota k01:07
mebaran151to send passwords to everybody01:07
mebaran151encrypted01:07
mwewpa is not safe with the crappy passwords users typically use, like 'mom' and the like01:08
ghb_mebaran151: I see... Or... I think I do. ^01:08
mebaran151so you have two layers of encryption in the end01:08
crimsuntonyyarusso: in F3 Playback view, unmute the mic and set the level01:08
mebaran151one sends the keys and the other is the keys themselves01:08
gthbmebaran151, WPA is harder to setup than WEP, not every driver and device supports it.01:08
mebaran151gthb, yeah01:08
mebaran151but it is more secure in theory01:08
Jowimwe: you totally guessed my WPA passkey! :-(01:08
tonyyarussocrimsun and Jowi: Hmm, not getting anything with this now.  An area for exploration later.01:08
ghb_gthb: My crappy-ass ubuntu machine refuses to work with WEP (works unencrypted) so I'm open for anything. WPA is my next approach.01:08
crimsuntonyyarusso: pastebin your amixer output01:08
mebaran151in practice, I don't think it is excessively true01:08
mweJowi: hurry up. change it to dad and you'll be safe01:08
gthbghb_, what kind of a wireless card?01:09
ScootaDootaDelvien: list this directory, do you see vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386  and  initrd.img-2.6.12-9-38601:09
ghb_gthb: Intel PRO/Wireless [sucky]  2200BG01:09
Delvienscootadoota yes01:09
gthbIt's the same as mine :)01:09
Jowitonyyarusso: i just plug in the mic. crank "mic" up in alsamixer and press M to unmute it. thats it. should hear yourself breath heavilly into the mic01:09
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gthbAnd I love this wifi card01:09
Jowimwe: phew, just in time. great advice01:09
tonyyarussoJowi & crimsun, May later, when my sister's not sister here wondering what's going on.  (I'm trying to play through from her mp3 player.)01:10
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mweJowi: any time01:10
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ScootaDootaDelvien: in the same directory change to the grun directory and do a more on menu.lst01:10
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ghbgthb: And yours work?01:11
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Delvienscootadoota you lost me at grun :P01:11
gthbghb, my 2200BG worked out of the box here.. I havn't gone to school since I setup ubuntu on my laptop but it worked fine with gentoo01:11
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tonyyarussoWhat do USB devices look like in /dev?01:11
Delvienscootadoota grub?01:11
crimsuntonyyarusso: depends on the type of usb device.01:11
ghbgthb: Well, mine works fine at uni. Don't know what kind of stuff they got there, but it still worked!01:11
crimsuntonyyarusso: mass storage is scsi, so /dev/sdX01:11
ScootaDootaDelvien: sorry the grub directory (i'm a lousy typist)01:11
tonyyarussocrimsun, It's a Samsung mp3 player.01:12
mwegthb: didn't you have to dl the firmware yourself?01:12
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gthbHmm, no, it even worked when I was installing from the cd01:12
Kindredwith a chroot do you have to install x & gnome.. etc, to use gui based stuff?  I am installing one so I can run wine so I can run dvdshrink.  lol, this is probably more hassle than it's worth.01:12
Delvienscootadoota everything looks fine in menu. points to the right HD and partition01:12
crimsunKindred: yes.01:13
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mwegthb: really. I thought it wasn't legal to distrbute the firmware. I must be wrong about that then, though01:13
DelvienScootadoota ummm... i know whats wrong01:13
Jowitonyyarusso: try "sudo modprobe usb-storage" first of all. then you should see it in "dmesg"01:13
ScootaDootaDelvien: ok....thats for the .9 kernel01:13
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crimsunKindred: unless you use some xauth magic, then you don't have to01:13
Delvienscootadoota you gave me link to 2.6.12, not 2.6.1501:13
mebaran151has anyone successfully setup Java on an AMD64 rig01:14
mebaran151and has anyone got eclipse to play nice as well?01:14
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Kindredcrimsun: ah .. okay thanks.  maybe I will look into that01:14
ScootaDootaDelvien:......oh shit.......sorry01:14
strohbye01:14
crimsunsure, mebaran151. I use the Sun JDK.01:14
tonyyarussoJowi: Is there a way to narrow down what I'm looking for there?01:14
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Delvienscootadoota hehe, can you link that page again01:14
skonAnyone know why the Ipchains HOWTO is so old?01:14
Jowitonyyarusso: yep. dmesg | grep sda01:14
mwemebaran151: there is no working java plugin I hear, though01:15
ScootaDootaDelvien: thats cos I'm on a 2.6.12-10 kernel....hold on just get that link for you01:15
SeveasDreamer_uk, yes01:15
crimsunskon: because ipchains _is_ old. You want iptables.01:15
gthbghb, it's funny to say, this card works 100% here in linuxland, but it locks up my machine when I'm using windows :p01:15
mebaran151mwe, I don't vist to many Java sites anyway, or at least I don't think I do01:15
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tonyyarussoJowi: No output.01:15
skoncrimsun: oh...okay thought they were for different purposes, thanks01:15
ghbgthb: Hahahahaha!01:15
mwemebaran151: I keep hearing going with the 32bit ubuntu is the best choice for now01:15
Jowitonyyarusso: is the mp3 powered on?01:15
mebaran151is the sdk in the repos?01:15
mebaran151IU don't want to reinstall again!01:15
mwe!java01:15
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:15
crimsunmebaran151: no, it's very much non-free.01:15
gthbghb, so, have you figured out what's wrong?01:16
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mebaran151I thought it would be, but we include the w32codecs too I thought01:16
Seveasmebaran151, no01:16
Jowitonyyarusso: try to power off/on for the device after usb-storage is done01:16
mebaran151not even in the multiverse?01:16
ghbgthb: I don't have a clue. And soon I will shoot myself. But I'm still trying out WPA. Pray to God it works...01:16
Seveasmebaran151, nope01:16
crimsunmebaran151: no.01:16
mebaran151hmmm01:16
mebaran151ok01:16
Seveasghb, wiki/WPAHowto01:16
crimsunghb: did you configure those two files?01:16
gthbghb, can you describe the setup you are using? It often helps geting a couple more eyes on what you are doing :-)01:17
tonyyarussoJowi: Yeah, it's on.  I don't think it will even let me power off while it's plugged in to the USB port.01:17
ghbcrimsun: I'm about to. Still messing around with wpa_supplicant01:17
mwemebaran151: there's easyubuntu to install all that for you, but I don't know it works with 64bit01:17
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ghbghtb: Well. I'm following what it says on <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto>.01:17
gthbghb, I mean wep wise01:18
mebaran151is blackdown any good?01:18
mebaran151it has a Java plugin01:18
cdehaanHello. What components of Ubuntu allow it to hibernate on a laptop?01:18
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Jowitonyyarusso: ok. try to reconnect it. wait a few seconds then try again now that usb-storage is loaded. it should also show in "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices"01:18
gthbmebaran151, It has worked for me since I started using linux :p01:18
tonyyarussoJowi: dmesg | grep usb has some stuff in it that might mean something.01:18
ghbgthb: When I tried using WEP...? I tried to setup that one up with the GNOME Network tool.01:18
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mebaran151why doesn't gcj work, just to know?01:19
mweghb: I spent about 5 hours getting it to work. In the end I found out my custom kernel didn't support the michael mic encryption method. doh01:19
gthbghb, Nevermind, I'm misunderstanding :p01:19
mebaran151it seems eclipse refuses to load with the free Java setup openoffice uses01:19
crimsuncdehaan: the kernel, acpi{d,-support}, and hotkey-setup01:19
Jowitonyyarusso: you should see in "dmesg | grep usb" something like "usb-storage: device found at 2"01:19
mweghb: I don't know if the ubuntu kernel supports that. you need it01:19
ScootaDootaDelvien: doesn't seem to be a 2.6.15-9?01:19
ghbmwe: I haven't messed around in the kernel. There's little I have been doing on this machine because I'm still figuring out how it will be nice to me...01:20
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crimsunmwe: it does.01:20
cdehaancrimsun: How can I backup whatever files these settings are in?01:20
tonyyarussoJowi: I see it.  The cat command showed something with the right manufacturer and model.01:20
Delvienscootadoota prolly cus its Dapper kernal :(01:20
mwecrimsun: good. built in or as a module?01:20
mebaran151or gij?01:20
crimsuncdehaan: just keep the debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/01:20
Jowitonyyarusso: great. does it also say "Driver=usb-storage" there?01:20
crimsunmwe: 'm'01:20
cdehaancrimsun: What about for hotkeys?01:20
mwecrimsun: so one needs to load it then I take it01:20
tonyyarussoJowi: Driver=(none)01:20
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ScootaDootaDelvien: thats searching the dapper stuff too01:21
cdehaancrimsun: I'll be totally honest, I'm a fedora user normally, but I couldn't get sleeping/standby to work. Ubuntu does it perfectly. I'm trying to get it setup properly on Fedora.01:21
crimsuncdehaan: hotkeys is probably necessary in Breezy. I'm in Dapper where hotkey-setup obsoletes it.01:21
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mebaran151hey, the jdk is in my repos!01:21
mebaran151well what do you know01:21
Randum_Idiotany body no how to setup java plugin 4 ubuntu, i386, i tried it many times using many online help things, but no success01:21
gthbGood night01:21
mebaran151well 1.4.201:21
mweghb: well make sure the module is loaded or it wont work01:21
Jowitonyyarusso: so it is not supported by usb-storage ... maybe... crap. maybe it need another driver. don't know to be honest which one might be suitable...01:21
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lightbrightJowi: hello :)01:22
apokryphos!tell Randum_Idiot about javadebs01:22
crimsunmwe: it loads automatically01:22
LordMelkorhow can i delete a partition, and reclaim the freed space?01:22
cdehaancrimsun: So basically hotkeys tells acpid "hey, they pressed the Suspend key. Suspend!"01:22
mwecrimsun: all right. good then01:22
ghbmwe: The module is loaded. Whenever I use it unencrypted it works fine. It's just when I enable WEP that I no longer get any connection whatsoever with the network.01:22
ghbmwe: It just dies...01:22
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Jowitonyyarusso: got a samsung mp3 and a sony camera that both uses usb-storage happily, so i'm a bit lost there...01:22
tonyyarussoJowi: Hrm.  Are we sure it would have autodetected that?  I wonder what would happen if we told it to use usb-storage anyway?01:23
ScootaDootaDelvien:  Is it just vmware that doesn't work...or other things like sound, and usb support?01:23
ghbmwe: I can find others' networks, though. One is unencrypted so I'm thinking about using that one instead... -_-01:23
mweghb: wep? aren't you trying to get wpa to work?01:23
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ghbmwe: I am now. I've given up on WEP.01:23
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mweghb: I see01:23
Delvienscootadoots in kernal 10 Vmware doesnt work , but other things do. in 9 vmware works and a bunch of hardware doesnt01:23
LordMelkorhow can i delete a partition, and reclaim the freed space?01:23
crimsunghb: so where are you in the config?01:23
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ghbcrimsun: yup.01:24
Delviendootascoota any idea how to revert back to the old 9 kernal? or is that option out the window01:24
crimsunghb: "yep"?01:24
Jowitonyyarusso: my samsung mp3 is a YP-MT6Z. if you have a YP (Yepp) it should work.01:24
Delviendootascoota in kernal 10 Vmware doesnt work , but other things do. in 9 vmware works and a bunch of hardware doesnt01:24
ghbcrimsun: I have (I think) set up what I need to do. But when I try wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi I just get a bunch of errors01:24
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mweghb: wep was easy for me, but with all the cracked wep networks I heard about lately I switched to wpa01:24
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ghbcrimsun: Oh sorry, I thought you asked if I was in the config file. =)01:24
lightbrightJowi: hello :)01:24
_joshuahi i just installed Ubuntu :)01:24
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Jowihi lightbright01:25
lightbright_joshua: why?01:25
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jonohi all01:25
skonlol01:25
ghb_joshua: Prepare for hell. =P01:25
crimsunghb: you need a "-w" in your OPTIONS= line01:25
eugene_joshua: You FOOL!01:25
ghbcrimsun: Oh... I'll try that.01:25
jonocan anyone recommend a tool packaged for ubuntu to grab a frame from a webcam and save it to a file?01:25
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Delvien_joshua dont listen to them... Welcome to ubuntu01:25
ScootaDootaDelvien: Thats a problem with prebuilt kernels....I generally build my own from the source (not that difficult) as there is always something missing :(01:25
crimsunghb: next, you need to change ENABLED=0 to ENABLED=101:25
_joshua:)01:25
apokryphosanyone know how to kill whatever's using alsa/soundserver? lsof /dev/dsp gives nuthin'01:25
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tonyyarussoJowi: YP-T7J.01:25
hayngeekhow do you burn the ubuntu iso01:25
Jowitonyyarusso: sounds good01:26
crimsunapokryphos: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*01:26
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CodyDHcrimsun: which program captures the Fn + Esc (Suspend) keycombo?01:26
Seveas!tell eugene_ about coc01:26
apokryphos!tell hayngeek about install01:26
_joshuahow can i make the terminal transparent01:26
tonyyarussoJowi: So what do I do next to try it?01:26
ghbcrimsun: Hold on now. Too much info at once. =) I'll try to add the enabled stuff.01:26
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lightbright_joshua: why would you do that?01:26
kjs-I'm trying to install ubuntu on an old pentium 400 I have, I installed a cdrom (that works in windows on it) but it doesn't detect it at boot...Is there a way to get it to detected, or another way to install ubuntu?01:26
Seveasit was the f*ing ban avoider again01:26
_joshuabecause i like it01:26
crimsunCodyDH: hotkeys+acpi{d,-support}+Linux01:26
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ghbcrimsun: Where do I find the enabled line?01:27
Jowitonyyarusso: try "sudo modprobe usbcore" and "usb-storage" after that.01:27
skonkjs-, do you have  a boot options menu, a bios setup?01:27
crimsunghb: at the top of /etc/default/wpasupplicant01:27
LordMelkorHow can I delete a partition and reclaim the freed space?01:27
Randum_IdiotCHANGE THE BIOS?!?01:27
HymnToLifeLordMelkor > GParte01:27
HymnToLifed*01:27
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apokryphoscrimsun: interesting; killing kmix helped. Thanks.01:27
skonRandum_Idiot: what's your problem?01:27
ghbcrimsun: Done.01:27
LordMelkorhymntolife gparte is a program i can apt-get?01:27
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Jowi_joshua: there is an option in the menues for gnome-terminal. eterm should be able to as well. if you use xterm you're out of luck01:28
crimsunghb: now sanitise and pastebin your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf01:28
kjs-skon: yes..I've heard some comp's that old won't boot off a cdrom though...true?01:28
tonyyarussoJowi: And what is that supposed to do?01:28
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skonkjs-: it's probably true...you'll need to make a bootable floppy that will load your CD-ROM drive01:28
HymnToLifeLordMelkor > Gparted* is a GNOME GUI for parted and yes, you can apt-get it01:28
ghbcrimsun: Umm... there are two works in that sentence that I don't understand. I'm not English. Hold on while I look them up in my Oxford dictionary.01:28
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LordMelkorthanx01:29
skonLordMelkor: what are you trying to reclaim free space onto?01:29
_joshuacool01:29
_joshuai got it :D01:29
TengkSASeveas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:29
LordLuclessMy numpad seems to have stopped working overnight in ubuntu. It produces neither numerals, nor the un-numlocked functions. Toggling numlock doesn't change the effects. Any ideas of what could cause this?01:29
HymnToLifeor boot with a Live CD (better if you want to partition a HD), it's included in the Ubuntu one01:29
tonyyarusso!tell ghb about pastebin01:29
Jowitonyyarusso: it should give you no errors. try to reconnect the device again and check dmesg just to try if it goes automatic01:29
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TengkSASeveas, !!!!01:29
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TengkSASeveas, im stuck again it says cannot find NLTDR01:29
TengkSASeveas, NTLDR sorry01:29
hybrid__TomB: allo01:30
SeveasTengkSA, boot from a windows cd and run fixboot01:30
_TomBevening01:30
TengkSASeveas, i dont have a windows cd that is bootable01:30
ghbcrimsun: Ah crap! I'm on another computer... Hm...01:30
tonyyarussoJowi: Still nothing on grep sda.01:30
bardamuLordlucless : is there a light above the num lock key that works?01:31
_joshuacan someone hook me up with a sources list please?01:31
tonyyarussoJowi: Can't I tell it just use the usb-storage driver and see what heppens?01:31
ghbcrimsun: Aah! Forgot I had a wire, too. ^^01:31
hybrid_joshua: search the wiki for "guide to hoary" it has one01:31
tonyyarusso_joshua, If you tell me how to send a file, I will.  (Haven't figured that out yet.)01:32
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hybridmay need to edit it, but it works01:32
psusiTengkSA, if you don't have your windows install cd, then you're in trouble01:32
CodyDHWhat program does Ubuntu use to respond to the volume keys on a keyboard?01:32
Jowitonyyarusso: trying to remember how to force a driver to a device...01:32
calamarihi01:32
crimsunCodyDH: I told you...01:32
CodyDHhotkeys as well?01:32
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SillyZQ: wheres ncurses-devel located ??01:32
ghbcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651001:32
crimsunCodyDH: no, most of those go through BIOS.01:32
calamarianyone played with creating backup copies of movie DVD's?01:32
TengkSAokay im going to sleep cant take this shit anymore01:33
TengkSAnite01:33
crimsunCodyDH: but yes, it's a combination of hotkeys and the kernel01:33
TengkSASeveas, btw how do u run fixboot when u got the bootable winxp disk01:33
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LordLuclessbardamu, Yep, and the light toggles properly01:33
HobbseeSillyZ: libncurses5-dev01:33
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lightbrightJowi: hello :) good to see you01:34
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HobbseeSillyZ: in the repos01:34
psusiTengkSA, boot to the windows recovery console and type "fixboot"01:34
SillyZThanks Hobbsee01:34
TengkSAthanks01:34
TengkSAnight01:34
LordLuclessbardamu, But whether the light is on or not, the numpad problem still happens. The keyboard is hooked up via KVM to another computer, and the numpad works properly on that other computer01:34
LordLuclessIt used to work on this one too, but stopped recently01:34
tonyyarussoJowi: I'm being summoned for supper, so if you remember, pm it to me so it doesn't get scrolled off the screen.01:34
tetralithQuestion - When I switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl-Alt-F1, my X session dies. Any ideas as to the problem? ubuntu 5.10 on Dell Latitude D40001:34
crimsunghb: comment out lines 88, 90, and 9201:34
bardamucould you have accidentally mapped a new keyboard?01:34
ghbcrimsun: Yes sir!01:34
tehdot_hmmm01:34
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crimsunghb: are you using Hoary or something?01:34
psusitetralith, what do you mean it dies?01:34
Jowitonyyarusso: do you have scsi disk support if you "sudo lsmod"?01:34
SillyZHobbsee, I see ubuntu has a different naming scheme now for devel packages, I was looking for ncurses-devel tis why I couldnt find i t01:35
Jowitonyyarusso: no prob01:35
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HobbseeSillyZ: apt-cache search ncurses dev01:35
HobbseeSillyZ: much easier to find it that way01:35
crimsun(libncurses5-dev)01:35
tehdot_how do you get java installed? sudo apt-get install j2re1.401:35
tehdot_ isnt working as it says it should01:35
ghbcrimsun: Breezy, I think.01:35
Hobbseeyou're a little late there crimsun01:35
LordLuclessbardamu, I dont know how to map a keyboard, so accidentally mapping a new one is improbable :)01:35
crimsuntehdot_: enable multiverse01:35
Jowilightbright: same to you :)01:35
tonyyarussoJowi: scsi_mod              135688  6 usb_storage,sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,ahci,libata01:35
tonyyarusso, so yes?01:35
tetralithWhen I switch back to vt7 using Ctrl-Alt-F7, it shows a text console, and eventually brings back the graphical login .01:35
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crimsunHobbsee: sorry, difficult to be current in 60 channels01:35
ghbcrimsun: Done.01:35
CodyDHcrimsun: thanks for your hlep01:36
Hobbseehehe no problems crimsun - i understand what you mean01:36
bardamui have standard ncurses-devel in universe on breezy01:36
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lightbrightJowi: :)01:36
crimsunghb: lsb_release -r01:36
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ghbcrimsun: 5.1001:36
numberandomI've just installed Ubuntu, and it refuses to grab a DHCP lease. I ran tcp dump on another machine to make sure its sending requests and it is. any ideas?01:36
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numberandomive also tried other network cards to no avail01:37
tetralithpsusi: So I guess it kills the X session/server on switching to a different virtual screen01:37
crimsunghb: Breezy01:37
ssstormydoes anyone here use evolution?01:37
ghbcrimsun: Yup. =)01:37
Randum_Idiothow do i connect this ubuntu computer to a windows computer on the same network so i can grab  files off the windows computer?? the windows computer works fine vs. other windows computers (of course)01:37
tetralithpsusi: since it starts the login screen when I switch to vt701:37
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ssstormyI'm using evolution with my gmail account, but whenever i hit "send" on a new message, it just drops into the outbox01:38
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ssstormyhow do I get it to send as soon as i click "send"?01:38
crimsunghb: ok, is "HBNETWORK" the essid for the AP?01:38
ghbcrimsun: Yup01:38
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matthew_wHey - I just fresh installed Ubuntu on a second PC, Breezy, and I Noticed that the kernel messages are hawt as hell in the new dist upgrade.  On my personal PC, I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, so... how do I get the hot kernel messages?01:38
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ghbcrimsun: Everything above that was already there from start.01:39
lightbrightis it Motion or the other planets like Mars, pulling Earth away from the Sun?  anyone here know?01:39
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crimsunghb: you could vastly simplify your config file if you delete lines 323-59801:40
DelvienAnyone here use a Philips GoGear HDD6330??01:40
ghbcrimsun: Thank you--been itching in my fingers to do that. >=)01:40
_joshuacan someone hook me up with a sources list please?01:40
crimsunghb: 599, rather01:40
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apokryphos!tell _joshua about sources01:40
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PeteyPablocan somone tell me what the best way to completely whipe out all info on a harddrive is, like what boot cd?01:40
Dreamglidermars pulls on earth yes, but the sun, venus and merqury allso pull it twoards the sun01:40
tbwHas anyone here built gtkpod from source?01:40
ghbcrimsun: Wooho! Done.01:41
ssstormyPeteyPablo, fdisk it and delete all partitions01:41
_joshuais Ubuntu 5.10 .. hoary or breezy ?01:41
DreamgliderPeteyPablo, use UBCD01:41
ssstormytbw, yeah I did once01:41
DreamgliderUltimate Boot CD01:41
LordLuclessHmm, the "5" button on the keypad seems to minimize/restore gedit when numlock is on01:41
tronix_joshua: breezy. hoary was 5.0401:41
apokryphosSeveas: aha, 3.5 sources on source-o-matic -- nice. You might want to include a note about grabbing the gpg key, which they'd have to do.01:41
tbwssstormy, : Did you have to do anything weird to get mp4v2 to compile in correctly?01:41
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LordLuclessThats the only effect I can see for any button on the keypad01:41
PeteyPabloDreamglider: ok, what utility on the cd>01:41
ssstormytbw, no, nothing weird.01:42
carypsusi, it installed the bootstrap loaded on hda but windows is on hdc (apparenlty) and i got boot choice when i rebooted01:42
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psusiPeteyPablo, depends... what kind of whipe out are you talking about?  like completely beyond recovery by even a determined individual?01:42
matthew_wAnyone have any ideas about that?01:42
crimsunghb: ok, now are you using WPA or WPA2?01:42
ssstormyalso, for some reason, my standard user can't access audio output on any channel, not esd, not arts, not alsa, not oss, while root can access all of them but arts.01:42
tbwssstormy, : I can't get it to compile with mp4v2 tinvolved.01:42
PeteyPablopsusi: my friend has messed up his HD bad, and cant install an OS now i want to completely clean it01:42
psusicary, huh?  you did get the choice to boot windows?01:42
matthew_wuboutu tell me about sources01:42
ghbcrimsun: WPA. Don't think my AP supports WPA2.01:42
matthew_wwonder if that works.01:42
ssstormytbw, I'm afraind I can't help you01:42
psusiPeteyPablo, what do you mean he can't install an OS?01:43
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apokryphosSeveas: also, kubuntu.org repository isn't unnofficial -- it's quite official.01:43
psusiif the drive is physically damaged, there's only one thing to do: throw it out and get a new one01:43
PeteyPablopsusi: he can't install an os.. don't ask me ;-\ whats a good thing to clear the hd01:43
PeteyPablopsusi: no it's not physically damaged01:43
ghbcrimsun: I just tried a "sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -w", and I get a bunch of "Failed to set encryption". =/01:43
psusiPeteyPablo, what makes you say that?01:43
carypsusi, also, when installing the bootstraip thing, it noted that it Found win2k, but when i rebooted, it booted straight to windows. wasnt given a choice between win2k and unbuntu, as i motherboard (?) or bios (?) sees the win2k drive as primary and unbuntu sees it as secondary? not sure..but right now its going straight to windows01:43
mweghb: I couldn't make it work with an encrypted key in the file no matter what I tried01:44
PeteyPablopsusi: he cant install xp or ubuntu, it always fails can you just tell me what to do to help him?01:44
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DreamgliderPeteyPablo, i like part to make, delete and formate partions01:44
psusiPeteyPablo, "I can't install an OS" is rather vague so it could be caused by a million things... some data on the disk is not really one of them though01:44
tronixPeteyPabl: boot off a LiveCD, run a disk partitioning utility (fdisk??), delete all partitions, recreate any desired partitions, save+quit, boot OS installer media, good to go01:44
PeteyPablotronix: will ubuntu live cd do this?01:44
mweghb: I ended up putting the pass in clear in the file and chmod'ing it to 40001:44
mike_!repositories01:44
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource01:44
ghbmwe: Oh?01:44
_joshuacan someone please remind me how to get into my /etc/apt/sources.list01:44
_joshuaplease01:44
tronixPeteyPabl: I haven't personally tried it with Ubuntu - only using it 12 hours now, but I'd imagine it can.01:44
nalioth_joshua: sudo gedit it01:45
bardamufrom prompt: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:45
Dreamglider_joshua,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list01:45
_joshuathanks01:45
matthew_wCan someone tell me how I would add the breezy cd rom to my sources.list?01:45
crimsunghb: you didn't pass the correct arguments to wpa_supplicant01:45
psusicary, which disk is the ubuntu disk?  the first, or second?01:45
ghbcrimsun: Ah ok.01:45
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crimsunghb: first of all, what's the interface name?01:45
psusiPeteyPablo, I told you, get a new disk, that one is hosed01:46
ghbcrimsun: At the moment it's eth1.01:46
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DelvienAnyone here use Qemu?01:46
PeteyPablopsusi: no it's not01:46
psusiPeteyPablo, but if you really want to play with it some more, boot from a livecd and do something like: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda01:46
butcherbirdmatthew_w: why would u want to do that?01:46
_joshuahmmm is there a text editor i can use for it .. the console is confusing01:46
PeteyPablopsusi: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hd in terminal?01:46
PeteyPablopsusi: ok01:47
carypsusi, according to ubuntu, the ubuntu disk is hda and windows is hdc (not sure what happened to hdb), windows i guess sees the ubuntu disk as secondary.01:47
psusiPeteyPablo, /dev/hda.... yes01:47
mike_!easysource01:47
uboturumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:47
Jowi_joshua: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:47
tronixmatthew_w: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main01:47
tronixrestricted01:47
tronix(all on one line)01:47
crimsunghb: ok, then you'd want ``sudo wpa_supplicant -dd -w -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D madwifi''01:47
psusicary, naw... the ubuntu disk is primary... but your bios might be set to boot the secondary... check that01:47
LordLuclessAh-ha!01:47
LordLuclessThe numpad is acting as a mouse!01:48
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carypsusi, also, explorer is crapping its pants at the "my computer" level. the other partitions seem to read (as in i can see their contents) but its not happy about something01:48
LordLuclessnumpad 5 is left-click, and the arrows move the mouse cursoe01:48
LordLuclessHow do I stop that behaviour?01:48
carypsusi, explorer is not happy. not replying01:48
tronixmatthew_w: also make sure you put it at top of the list in /etc/apt/sources.list, too.01:49
tronixnot sure if you need to also run 'apt-get update' after updating sources.list01:49
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matthew_wtronix; thanks, any idea about my other question about the kernel messages at boot?01:50
mweghb: btw I see you use madwifi. that's probably good. I have an ipw2200 card and I could not get the -D ipw driver to work and had to use the generic -D wext instead01:50
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PeteyPablocan you install from the live cd?01:50
Comradeno01:50
crimsunmwe: >= 2.6.14 requires -Dext for ipw220001:50
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ghbcrimsun: Hmm... I get... a lot of stuff... They don't look too good. Lots of "invalid argument"...01:50
crimsun-Dwext, rather.01:50
butcherbirdPeteyPablo: not easily01:51
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tronixPeteyPabl: you'll want the install CD to do that for Ubuntu. you can also repartition via the install CD, too01:51
mwecrimsun: I see. where did you find out about that? I googled for ages01:51
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tronixmatthew_w: hmm must've missed that. can you repost your question? :(01:51
carypsusi, woohoo...boot strap working fine now. it was the hd boot order. cheers for that.01:51
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crimsunmwe: I'm the de facto maintainer of wpasupplicant in Ubuntu01:51
mwecrimsun: I see01:52
tronixmwe: didn't know about that fact but think 2.6.14 updated the wireless API to a new version which broke old stuff01:52
matthew_wtronix; sure - I was basically wondering if there's any way to "bling" up the kernel messages at the beginning, make them look better, go faster, have a theme, etc.01:52
ghbcrimsun: I  got a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG, in case I didn't mention that.01:52
crimsununfortunately that means I'm responsible for breaking it, too ;)01:52
tronixto version 19 or something01:52
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martint_Hi Guys01:52
Signifer123hey01:52
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone01:52
martint_this is my first day with Ubuntu01:52
martint_and I was wondering01:52
psusicary, cool...01:52
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crimsunghb: then you're using the wrong driver. You want -Dipw01:53
martint_How do I navigate to a different directory using the terminal01:53
mwecrimsun: It came down to my custom kernel not supporting michael mic though. doh!01:53
Signifer123cd directory_name01:53
martint_thankyou01:53
Signifer123np01:53
Madpilotmartint_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands01:53
crimsunmwe: yeah, it needs to be much more user-friendly01:53
PeteyPablosudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda will that command totally whipe the harddrive ?01:53
ghbcrimsun: Righto. Administring torture to my stupid laptop. =)01:53
SeveasPeteyPablo, yup01:53
tronixmatthew_w: hmm. *thinks* easiest way is a splash screen background (which I had with Gentoo, dunno how to do similar with Ubuntu). can boot faster if you customize kernel to remove unneeded drivers and remove services you don't need01:54
PeteyPabloand it can be done from a live cd Seveas, ?01:54
SeveasPeteyPablo, yup01:54
PeteyPablo:-)01:54
tronixmatthew_w: in general, haven't found boot to be slow, even on an emulated VMware setup, so I haven't really bothered.01:54
matthew_wtronix; can you tell me about the splash background?01:54
butcherbirdmartint_: if you are looking for a command typing 'apropos whatever' example 'apropos permissions' etc01:54
tronixmatthew_w: sure... let me find a screenshot. one sec01:54
matthew_wtronix; thanks.01:55
ghbcrimsun: OMFG!!!!!!!!!01:55
mikearthurhey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?01:55
mwecrimsun: do you have any idea why it wouldn't work with an encrypted password in the config file, only clear text?01:55
crimsunmwe: don't know enough details01:56
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mwecrimsun: what do you need to know?01:56
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crimsunghb: now you need to make sure that your OPTIONS= line in /etc/default/wpasupplicant is correct. Pastebin that file.01:56
Ngmikearthur: packages.ubuntu.com - the kernel should be similar to the one used by an actual breezy install01:57
ghbcrimsun: It's working! It got connection! It got an IP address! It got a pulse! It's aliiiiiiive!!!!01:57
mweghb: congrats!01:57
matthew_wtronix; also, about the cdrom, it told me to use 'apt-cdrom' to add the cd to the sources, how would I do that... lol01:57
crimsunmwe: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces01:57
mwecrimsun: ok01:57
ghbmwe: Thank you! ^^01:57
mweghb: the credit goes to crimsun01:57
ghbcrimsun: I shall assemble a small temple and sacrifice a virgin everyday in your honour! *bows bows*01:58
LordMelkori was able to use gparted to delete an old partition but how can i reclaim that space on my current partition??01:58
Jowimikearthur: : the package should be called linux-source-2.6.1201:58
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jon_hello01:58
matthew_wtronix; figured out apt-cdrom myself.  Now just wondering about that bootscreen.01:58
tronixmatthew_w: http://www.bootsplash.de/01:58
LordMelkor.....01:59
DelvienThis is ridiculous WHY is it that i cant find ANY 2.6.15-9-386.deb on the net? no one hosts it???01:59
Jowi!info linux-source-2.6.1201:59
ubotulinux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 39498 kB, Installed size: 39628 kB01:59
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tronixmatthew_w: requires bootsplash or fbsplash stuff. I don't know how to do this with Ubuntu (yet?). I've only done it with Gentoo01:59
mikearthurNg, Jowi thanks01:59
Jowinp mikearthur01:59
matthew_wtronix; possible, yes?01:59
crimsunghb: I still need your /etc/default/wpasupplicant01:59
mikearthurnice to see distros helping each other out ;)01:59
jon_ok, great, PEOPLE !!! JUST installed Ubuntu, BUT after 4 days reviewing others, QUICK QUESTION, please?01:59
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tronixmatthew_w: don't see why it shouldn't work. normally requires a kernel built with it, but has an alternative method to enable it even w/out kernel support01:59
ghbcrimsun: Oh sorry. I was so overwhelmed that I forgot about it. Will pastebin it in a jiffy.02:00
LordMelkori was able to use gparted to delete an old partition but how can i reclaim that space on my current partition??02:00
mwecrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6511. I just realized it contains an old wep key though. I don't think that's the cause though. it didn't work from the commandline either02:00
butcherbirdjon_: shoot02:00
NgDelvien: why would anyone host that?02:00
Madpilotjon_: please just ask  your question...02:00
Jowijon_: ask and you might get lucky :)02:00
jon_Thank you butcherbird02:00
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jon_here I go02:00
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DelvienNg because its part of the dapper kernals02:00
Delvienkernels02:00
tronixmatthew_w: this isn't Ubuntu specific but gives you the general idea: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gensplash02:00
NgDelvien: dapper is on 2.6.15-1002:00
DelvienNg aye .02:00
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DelvienNg but Vmware doesnt work in 10 :P and i want it to work so bad02:01
mwecrimsun: I need to clean any old wep info. also the ssid. it still don't think that's why it don't work02:01
CarlFKif I want to build something (like mplayer) from CVS source, what are my chances of getting the script (or whatever) that is used to make the mplayer.deb?02:01
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Randum_Idioti ned help with getting the java plugin for firefox02:01
ghbcrimson: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651202:01
LordMelkorDoes anyone know how to add unallocated space from a deleted partition to the current partition that i am on02:01
matthew_wtronix; well, I don't really know anything about any other distros, so I suppose it won't matter whether it's specific or not ^____^02:01
tronix:)02:01
bluefoxicyPlease tell me now what crack smokers are involved in the internet.02:01
bluefoxicy"(I must admit, I am big fan of the spatial representation metaphor as opposed to the browser-like windows; and that also is one of my biggest gripes with the new Mac System.)"02:02
jon_I have a dedicated hosted leased server running LinuxRH and am running Ubuntu here at home, I need to be able to "remote desktop" to the remote Linux box GRAPHICALLY, are there any RH GUI's that would work between LinuxUbuntu and LinuxRH?02:02
crimsunmwe: erm, you wouldn't want to pre-up wpasupplicant for a WEP'd AP02:02
bluefoxicyNow tihnk about this02:02
bluefoxicyfor just a second.02:02
bluefoxicyThis "spatial representation metaphore" they talk of02:02
crimsunmwe: in that case you'd want to use a mapping script02:02
Seveasjon_, freenx02:02
bluefoxicybasically it means when you double-click a folder in nautilus, it opens a new window for that folder02:02
Jowijon_: any vnc software. freenx is nice02:02
butcherbirdjon_: i prefer freenx also02:02
LordMelkorDoes anyone know how to add unallocated space from a deleted partition to the current partition that i am on?!?02:02
bluefoxicyso you eventually get lots of windows and the back button doesn't work02:02
mwecrimsun: the ap is wpa. I just realized the old wep info was in there. I don't think that's the cause though02:02
matthew_wtronix; looks like a lot of work for a boot screen.02:03
Madpilotbluefoxicy: yes, this is one of the reasons that spatial sucks... :P02:03
Randum_Idioti ned help with getting the java plugin for firefox02:03
bluefoxicyWhat the hell kind of crack smoking is it to try to associate this with some phenominal new "spatial browsing metaphor" instead of just saying "We got rid of back and made lots of windwos pop up"?02:03
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  Yeah I know, but I mean, spatial browsing isn't . . well. . . spatial.02:03
tronixmatthew_w: Gentoo has support integrated so it's just one-time one or two liners to do. Probably more work with other distros02:03
bluefoxicyMadpilot: U nless "spatial" means "uses an unnecessary amount of screen space"02:03
bluefoxicyALL it does is open a new window when you click a folder02:03
Madpilotbluefoxicy: no, it's more "spastic" than "spatial", IMO...02:03
Ngbluefoxicy: spatial browsing means one object gets one window. it makes a lot of sense from some points of view and annoys people who are used to windows explorer02:03
crimsunmwe: what's the issue with, a passphrase for WEP?02:03
NgMadpilot: idiot ;)02:03
matthew_wtronix; one more question, how would one "enable kernel framebuffer support" ?02:03
PeteyPabloGentoo is too muchh work02:04
mwecrimsun: let me try. would I comment out "wirless-mode managed" too?02:04
bluefoxicyit doesn't associate files and directories with space by their size or attributes o.o02:04
Randum_Idioti need help with getting the java plugin for firefox02:04
crimsunmwe: you can. When I used WEP, I only had wireless-essid and wireless-key02:04
bluefoxicyNg:  Windows Explorer in 95 and 98 defaulted to that behavior, but everyone always used to turn it off in the preference.02:04
mwecrimsun: no I have wpa working, but it only works with a clear text passwd in the wpa conf file02:04
holycowguys what is the command to statup places/search for files?  i need to start that up as another user02:04
Seveas!tell Randum_Idiot about javadebs02:04
tronixmatthew_w: ahhh... that would require building a kernel from kernel sources. it's possible to do that with Ubuntu but I don't know the proper steps. Think it's mentioned in one of the debian or ubuntu docs.02:04
Ngbluefoxicy: each window remembers its size and position and are hence related to space, thus spatial02:04
crimsunghb: you need to comment out the first OPTIONS= line on line 1602:04
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MadpilotNg: Window had a spastic browser as well - My Computer...02:05
ghbcrimsun: ok. Done.02:05
tronixmatthew_w: I'm afraid I'm not too much help with Ubuntu. After all, been using it only 12h now :)02:05
matthew_wtronix; I would rebuild a kernel but I'm sure I'd bugger it up.02:05
bluefoxicyNg:  after ME and 2000 Microsoft realized that philosophy was brain damaged and set everything to operate in the same window by default.02:05
bradley_help!  how do you install package once you've download the tar.gz?02:05
zenlunaticwhats a good wireless card to get for ubuntu?02:05
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crimsunghb: ok, it should work now on boot. If not you'll need my modifications (in Dapper).02:05
NgMadpilot: that doesn't stop you being an idiot ;)02:05
bluefoxicyNg:  ah, so spatial means "waste of storage space for configuration options per directory" in this case.02:05
tronixmatthew_w: think there's an alternative way with fbsplash that doesn't require building a customized kernel02:05
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matthew_wbradley_; well, unpack it 1st by double clicking on it.02:05
paddygmansorry to interrupt02:05
ghbcrimsun: I'll try to reboot, see what happens.02:05
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bradley_matthew_w: got that... ;)02:05
MadpilotNg: that doesn't stop "spatial" browsing from being a totally broken idea best ignored... :P02:06
matthew_wbradley_; then open a terminal in that folder, and run ./configure02:06
Ngbluefoxicy: just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have some universal truth about interfaces. Go use DOpus Magellan II on an Amiga, it'll blow any file manager you've ever used away02:06
Signifer123bradley_ try make02:06
crimsunmatthew_w: we use usplash. Search the wiki for instructions for modifying it.02:06
zenlunaticbradley_, ./configure && make && make install02:06
Signifer123then make install02:06
Signifer123himm^^02:06
paddygmancan anyone help me with a problem with lvm's02:06
NgMadpilot: yes it does :)02:06
matthew_wusplash?  thanks crimsun02:06
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bradley_where do i put the filename? dont i need to point to something?02:06
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bluefoxicyNg:  isn't browser mode default on ubuntu now02:06
tronixPeteyPabl: yeah, Gentoo install -- that's a lot of work, even for someone used to it. post-install, maintaining is a breeze. I dumped Gentoo on my hosted machine since too small/slow to do all these compiles.02:06
matthew_wbradley_; then 'make' then 'make install'.  Optionally, 'make clean'02:06
Ngbluefoxicy: unfortunately, yes02:06
matthew_wthanks to you too tronix ;02:06
zenlunaticbradley_, what do  you mean?02:06
bluefoxicyNg:  which happened, IIRC, because a lot of users said, "How the hell do I turn this shit off," right?02:06
bradley_i'm trying to install tightvnc... so do i need to do make tightvnc?02:07
tronixcrimsun: ahh! thanks for mention. I'll poke at it, too02:07
mwecrimsun: I just updated the interfaces file and brought eth1 down and back up. would you care to have a look?02:07
Madpilotbluefoxicy: pretty much, I think...02:07
tronixmatthew_w: welcome02:07
bradley_or do i just input make...?02:07
mwecrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651302:07
mike_has anyone here gotten a linksys 802.11b WPC11 pcmcia card with the realtek chipset to work on ubuntu?02:07
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Ngbluefoxicy: if we follow that route we'll turn off most things because inexperienced people aren't used to them and we'll have a straight windows clone. great ;)02:07
bluefoxicyNg:  which would indicate that spatial browsing is a little-enjoyed concept and thus such enjoyment of it is the sign of a dilusional mind02:07
Seveastronix, maintaining gentoo is hell...02:07
matthew_wbradley_; most things will install to a default directory, and then put a bin in your system so you can just run them by typing the bin name from terminal.02:07
zenlunaticbradley_, sudo apt-get install tightvnc?02:07
Madpilotbluefoxicy: I think my comment was actually, "How do I stop this thing barfing extra windows all over my screen?!?"02:07
bluefoxicyNg:  experienced people seem to hate it too :)02:07
dylan_how do i completely remove xfce4 and all of its components?02:07
Ngbluefoxicy: or that most people are idiots ;)02:07
Seveas3 hours downtime for a mysql update...02:08
FractalHey.. Anyone know where I can find the kernel configs for stock ubuntu kernels?02:08
paddygmanAnyone any help with LVM'S02:08
vini12341234hey guys, i installed ubuntu to my dad's desktop, but it isnt playing nice with the rest of his network, so im gonna go back to XP until the next release, but i have a problem, XP will not recognize ANY partition that i give it. ive used Gparted many times to try and make XP use it, but it rejects it everytime. i tried using fat32, and fat16, but XP keeps rejecting it. any help would be appreciated. thanks.02:08
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tahorgNg: or kubuntu :)02:08
bradley_tried apt-get install... no packets found02:08
Jowibradley_: i think the package is called tightvncserver02:08
bradley_oh02:08
bradley_nice02:08
bradley_thanks...02:08
crimsunmwe: I'm confused. What are you having trouble with, WEP or WPA?02:08
bradley_let me try that jowi02:08
binarydigitvini12341234: what do you mean not playing nice with your network02:08
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matthew_wlol02:08
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mwecrimsun: what I don't understand is why the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file needs to have the passwd clear text.02:08
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  My first comment was, "What purpose can this actually serve?"02:08
mwecrimsun: wpa and it works02:08
ghbcrimsun: Still rebooting. I'm just wondering--what will I do when I take my laptop to uni? Over there I just turn on my WLAN and it works. Will I have to do some modifications?02:08
vini12341234trouble sharing drives and printers, locking up randomly (worse than XP)02:08
cmathesonvini12341234: did you put a filesystem on the new partition you made02:08
zenlunaticbradley_, apt-cache search vnc | less <-- look through that02:08
vini12341234yes and no02:08
mwecrimsun: but not with an encrypted passwd in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf02:08
vini12341234tried both02:08
bradley_thanks guys!!02:09
matthew_wcrimsun; so.. do I need the framebuffer support in the kernel for this?02:09
wizardjamesis there any way i could reinstall ubuntu but not have to wait soo long for it to do all of its stuff?  ..like a repair ...02:09
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  it'd be great if we could split windows, i.e. have a window be cloned so that you have 2 of it, back history and all.  That's good for when you're copying files around, say up in the directory tree and over to a sister directory02:09
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matthew_wcrimsun; *flips through wiki...*02:09
crimsunmwe: no, it works fine if you process the ascii passphrase with wpa_passphrase essid "phrase here"02:09
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  i.e. from ./foo to ./bar02:09
cary_psusi, believe it or not (george isnt at home) i am on ubuntu! now to sort out getting my screen res where i need it. there is a wiki on that stuff right?02:09
zenlunaticwindowsrefund, not that i know of02:09
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zenlunaticwizardjames, not that i know of02:09
Madpilotbluefoxicy: cloning would be sort of cool, actually...02:09
ghbcrimsun: Well, it works on reboot. ^^02:09
zenlunaticwindowsrefund, sorry02:09
FractalHey.. Anyone know where I can find the kernel configs for stock ubuntu kernels?02:09
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bluefoxicyMadpilot:  but having every directory on the way from $HOME to ./foo and ./bar as a window on screen is total bullshit02:09
NgFractal: when you install a kernel package its config is placed in /boot/02:09
paddygmanAnyone any help with LVM'S?02:09
crimsunmatthew_w: basic FB support must be 'y', yes.02:09
mike_if lspci shows my wireless nic it should be easy to set up right?02:10
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FractalNg : Thanks a lot!02:10
bradley_what would the viewer package be called? and is there an easy way to search for packet names?02:10
wizardjameszenlunatic,  rats,   i gota reinstall again because i cant seam to get apache mysql and all that stuff working right.  and the ones that come from the repos are so old...02:10
dylan_how do i completely remove xfce4 and all of its components, programs etc?02:10
_joshuadoes ubuntu include a 'camera' for taking snapshots of the desktop .. i have an error and need help :(02:10
Seveas_joshua, the print screen button...02:10
matthew_wcrimsun; does this mean I have to entirely recompile my kernel to get this to work?  Is there a way to find out if I currently have framebuffer support enabled?02:10
zenlunaticwizardjames, build it?02:10
paddygmanAnyone any help with LVM'S?02:10
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  for me that'd be like, $HOME /home /home/shared /home/shared/audio /home/shared/audio/mp3 /home/shared/audio/mp3/ocremix /home/shared/audio/mp3/ocremix/new02:10
psusicarlK, the ubuntu wiki is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com, and the forums are also helpfull: http://www.ubuntuforums.com02:10
zenlunaticwindowsrefund, backports?02:10
crimsunmatthew_w: grep CONFIG_FB /boot/config-$(uname -r)02:10
crimsun(don't paste here)02:11
windowsrefund?02:11
zenlunaticwizardjames, backports02:11
_joshuaprint screen button? where is that?02:11
bluefoxicyMadpilot: all those windows when I want to go copy from ocremix/new to ocremix/?  :)02:11
wizardjamesi got them all in02:11
Ng_joshua: on your keyboard :)02:11
zenlunaticwindowsrefund, sorry tab-complete is geting annoying02:11
mwecrimsun: It should but I couldn't get it to work. I guess it's a PEBKAC02:11
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graymanusually above the insert button02:11
_joshualol ok02:11
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windowsrefund:)02:11
tronixmatthew_w: easy to check: # grep CONFIG_FB /boot/config-2.6.12-9-38602:11
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bradley_is ther an easy way to look for packet names? so i can run apt-get?02:11
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  it wasn't so much the window clutter that bugged me though, more that then I had to close them all02:11
crimsunmwe: sanity-check that you didn't enclose the psk with "s02:11
bradley_*there02:11
jon_seveas, jowi & butcherbird, FREENX is it, thank you, need to email the Linux technical support at hostmysite.com to install it.  THANK YOU.02:11
Madpilotbluefoxicy: yeah, I've got some deep subdirectories as well, the barfing-windows trick gets insane with lots of subdirectories...02:11
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  trying to click 14 little X's. . . :(02:11
tronixmatthew_w: (or whatever /boot/config-<kernel version> you have)02:11
zenlunaticbradley_, i told you how02:11
Seveasbradley_, apt-cache search or go to packages.ubuntu.com02:12
crimsunghb: excellent.02:12
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Madpilotbluefoxicy: Ctrl+W is your friend02:12
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wizardjamesguess i will just reinstall..  be back in 2 hours02:12
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  or instead of spending 200mS - 1S between clicking directories, spending 2 more seconds to find the X on the last window and close it, :O02:12
cmathesonwizardjames: why reinstall?02:12
paddygmanAnyone any help with LVM'S?02:12
Ngthere's a menu item for closing parent windows02:12
ghbcrimsun: Thanks a lot for your help! Couldn't have done this without you! "With or without youuuuuuuuuuuuuu"02:12
bradley_zenlunatic: sorry02:12
bradley_thanks!02:12
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  ^W?02:12
zenlunaticwhats a good wireless card for ubuntu?02:12
Ngor you can double middle click to open a child window and close the parent at the same time02:12
Madpilotbluefoxicy: Ctrl+W is Close02:12
wizardjamescmatheson,  i messed up on a mysql and apache install and now i cant reinstall or remove it..  so i am kinda messed.02:12
bluefoxicyMadpilot: things that suck shi^W^W^W^Wwhat does that do?02:12
Ngzenlunatic: I have a Netgear WPN311 and it worked flawlessly out of the box02:12
matthew_wcrimsun; CONFIG_FB=y means I have framebuffer on, yes?02:13
bluefoxicyMadpilot:  oh, alt+f4?02:13
cmathesonwizardjames: what happens when you try to remove it?02:13
crimsunmatthew_w: basic support, yes.02:13
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_joshuacan someone help me out with this error .. i updated my sources list earlier and tried running synaptic and this is what it showed me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651402:13
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cmatheson!tell paddygman about anyone02:13
matthew_wcrimsun; excellent.  I'll just follow the wiki henceforth, then.02:13
crimsunmatthew_w: you might want to check what's compiled in ('y') and what's modularised ('m') in the standard Ubuntu kernels02:13
beauhey I know this isn't an ubuntu question, so I won't expect anyone to answer, but someone PM me if they know of a program that will allow multiple remote desktop sessions on a windows XP professional SP2 machine (I'm remoting in from ubuntu while @ work... so it's kind of related ;))02:13
wizardjamescmatheson,  i dont really know how to.. to be honest.   i used a download and didnt use apt-get02:13
cmathesonwizardjames: why didn't you just use apt? where did you install it to?02:13
vini12341234trouble sharing drives and printers, locking up randomly (worse than XP)02:13
vini12341234hey guys, i installed ubuntu to my dad's desktop, but it isnt playing nice with the rest of his network, so im gonna go back to XP until the next release, but i have a problem, XP will not recognize ANY partition that i give it. ive used Gparted many times to try and make XP use it, but it rejects it everytime. i tried using fat32, and fat16, but XP keeps rejecting it. any help would be appreciated. thanks.02:13
dylan_Seveas, can you help me remove xfce4 and all of its components?  i cant seem to do it in one clean sweetp02:14
wizardjamescmatheson,  i put it in the wrong dir, and cant really find it.    last time i used apt-get to install all the server struff..   it was all outdated (well most of it was)02:14
zenlunaticdylan_, is it hurting you being on your drive?02:14
cmathesonwizardjames: did you need the newer features? what folder did you put it in?02:14
dylan_zenlunatic, no, but i dont like xfce ... my stupid brother installed it02:14
zenlunaticdylan_, so just don't use it02:14
wizardjamescmatheson,  its not the newer featres its the safety updates i needed.   aw well, its not hard for me to reinstall.02:15
_joshuacan anyone help me out with that error ?02:15
_joshuacan someone help me out with this error .. i updated my sources list earlier and tried running synaptic and this is what it showed me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651402:15
paddygmanHey cmatheson if you can help i have an old install of ubuntu in an lvm which has been edited with partition magic so it has lost its format the k8 or whatever02:15
cmathesonwizardjames: they generally backport security fixes even though it's an older version02:15
paddygmananyway to get access to the files in the lvm02:15
Seveasdylan_, look at debfoster02:16
cmathesonwindowsrefund: use 'find' to find where you installed it... e.g. 'find / -name apache*'02:16
wizardjameso well..next time i will use apt-get to get everythin,    for now..  i gota restainll02:16
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paddygmananyone able to see this02:16
freakazoid3333no02:16
paddygmangood02:16
wizardjameslol02:16
dylan_Seveas, what is debfoster?02:16
_joshuaanyone ??  PLEASE02:16
cmathesonpaddygman: hmm, i'm not really familiar w/ lvm (especially after it's been edited w/ pm), but i'm guessing their may be a channel dedicated to lvm where you might find some experts)02:17
Seveasdylan_, install it and look at the manual :)02:17
dylan_Seveas, thanks02:17
Comrade_Vladimirwhat _joshua02:17
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_joshuacan someone help me out with this error .. i updated my sources list earlier and tried running synaptic and this is what it showed me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651402:17
da9000anyone know what this is all about: "kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2"02:17
alfonsohi02:17
Seveas_joshua, just hit the reload button...02:17
_joshuareload in synaptic ?02:17
apokryphosyes02:17
Seveasno in your brain :/02:17
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Seveassorry, that was mean02:17
_joshuahehe02:18
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_joshuano its ok02:18
_joshuathat would probably help too02:18
_joshua:p02:18
B-166_ER-XSeveas, as a god and ruler of it all here, it is your right to be mean.02:18
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madgik85Hello, i was wondering what the best Bittorrent and p2p client fot Ubuntu is? I am at the moment looking at Azureus and Gnutella respectivily. Are these good?02:18
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SeveasB-166_ER-X, nope, there's still the code of conduct02:18
Thanatermesisany person give me a repo link please ?02:18
apokryphos:P02:18
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cary_im trying to reconfigure my screen resolutions and nothing happens when i put this in terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8602:18
B-166_ER-Xyeah, Linus Torwald would come here and kick your butt :P02:19
Seveas:P02:19
SeveasB-166_ER-X, no, Mark Shuttleworth would :)02:19
B-166_ER-Xhm02:19
cary_ubotu, screen resolution02:19
ubotucary_: Are you on ritalin?02:19
cary_-=\02:19
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Seveas!fixres02:20
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:20
Seveas^-- cary02:20
LordMelkorwhat are the linux swap sectors for?02:20
apokryphosSeveas: that's weird; why wouldn't chanserv unban do it? :-O02:20
SeveasLordMelkor, virtual memory02:20
LordMelkoroh02:20
freakazoid3333now the bot's gettin mean02:20
cary_Seveas, yeah thats what i was reading. ill keep trying, but it doesnt seem to like me. thanks though02:20
Seveasapokryphos, it's not a ban, it's a mute :)02:20
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_joshuacan anyone tell me if its common practice to intstall software that isnt authenticated02:20
Seveasno it's not02:20
Seveasit should not be done02:20
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_joshuaok02:21
apokryphosSeveas: aha, of course.02:21
madgik85Hello, i was wondering what the best Bittorrent and p2p client fot Ubuntu is? I am at the moment looking at Azureus and Gnutella respectivily. Are these good? is it ok to talk about this, if not i will not mention it again?02:21
_joshuai have a list of software updates im trying to tell which ones are the ones not authenitcated02:21
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tahorgmadgik85: the best is bittornado02:21
dandielionousI am trying to install kubuntu.02:21
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Seveasmadgik85, bittornad indeed rocks02:22
dandielionousI downloaded the install cd.  But it says it's a live cd when I try to install.02:22
mike_!wifi02:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto02:22
madgik85tahorg Seveas : thank you02:22
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_joshuais gstreamer not authenticated ?02:22
Seveas_joshua, which repositories did you add?02:23
_joshuaone sec02:23
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tahorgmadgik85: perhaps it's not what you are looking for ... but it is the best :)02:23
ghbIs there any way to removing having to log in after closing the laptop lid?02:24
dylan_Seveas, debfoster worked, and well!  thanks :-)02:24
tahorgghb: removing the screensaver ?02:24
_joshuaSeveas: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651502:24
ghbtahorg: Removing or just disabling?02:24
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B-166_ER-Xas for what i am reading now, Seveas you mostly look like a demi-wannabe god compared to this Mr. Shuttleworth. :)02:25
tahorgghb: I would apt-get remove it02:25
Seveas_joshua, you need to add the cipherfunk pgp key02:25
_joshuahow can i do that02:25
tahorgghb: but I imagine there are better ways to do it02:25
dandielionousI looked at the link you posted ubotu and it seems to me that's basically the same one I've just spent 8 and half hours studying.02:25
_joshuaim king noob :(02:25
Seveasand wine and opera will indeed be unauthenticated02:25
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B-166_ER-Xhey, he's been in space, and he have actually 'Shuttle' in his last name :)02:25
ghbtahorg: Well, I don't use it anyway. So I'll just remove it. =)02:25
dandielionous<<<<Queen Noobie02:25
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dandielionousStill has on bubble wrap.02:26
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motorsepHello02:26
_joshuaSeveas: how can i add the pgp key?02:26
ghbtahorg: Do you know the name of the package?02:26
Seveas_joshua, one sec02:26
_joshuak thanks02:26
apokryphosSeveas: did you manage to see my notes earlier about kde repo on source-o-matic?02:26
tahorgghb: try disabling it first on screensaver preferences02:26
tahorgghb: then if it doesn't work apt-get remove xscreensaver02:27
Seveasapokryphos, yes, these instructions are half-finished (added all keys to the data and am looking there for the cipherfunk key now ;))02:27
phos-phoroshttp://www.bird-man.com/video/rocket_bird_inet.wmv02:27
phos-phorosbwahahaha02:27
dandielionousI'm having trouble with the drivers for my computer.  Specifically the video and monitor.  I have mandrake linux on my computer which seems to have the right drivers.02:27
ghbtahorg: The screensaver is already disabled. Doesn't help.02:27
motorsepI am new to Linux world.02:27
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_joshuawelcome motorstep, so am i :D02:27
motorsepAnd I want to switch to it from Windows.02:27
dandielionousI would like to copy the driver directory over to a 3.5 floppy then install kubuntu and copy the drivers over to kubuntu.02:27
dandielionousIs this possible?02:28
Seveas_joshua, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33bac1b3 && gpg --export --armor 33bac1b3 | sudo apt-key add -02:28
motorsepSo I would need your help, guys.02:28
apokryphosSeveas: all they'd need is that one command listed on kubuntu.org announcement, yup.02:28
ghbtahorg: WOHO!! Thank you so much! =D02:28
_joshuaoh gosh what do i do with that02:28
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mekylahello :)02:28
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motorsepmekyla: hi02:28
j2daoshok02:29
motorsepWho I can talk to about switching from Win to Ubuntu with all my devices and soft I will need?02:29
j2daoshquick question02:29
dandielionousDoes anyone know how the drivers are labeled in mandrake or kubuntu linux?02:29
_joshuaSeveas: do i add gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33bac1b3 && gpg --export --armor 33bac1b3  to my sources list and the do the sudo command in terminal ?02:29
_joshuathen*02:29
j2daoshmotor... make sure your proggies are linux compatible02:29
tonyyarussoDoes anyone know how to force a driver to a device when none is used automatically?02:30
Seveas_joshua, no02:30
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Seveasyou run that as one single command in the terminal02:30
mekylahaving trouble getting wireless card going (madwifi) with wpa -- have followed http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90450.html .. getting 'ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : operation not supported' on invoke-rc.d wpasupplicant start02:30
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LordMelkorcan i get further opinions on what to do? --> http://www.geocities.com/joltmajor//index.html02:30
_joshuaok02:30
j2daoshwhen i reinstall xp here in about 10 minutes i know its gonna overwrite my grub loader... what steps am i gonna have to take to get it back?02:30
LordMelkori posted the problem there02:30
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Ainvarls02:30
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Seveas!tell j2daosh about grub02:30
tonyyarussoj2daosh, I have a link for you, hang on.02:31
j2daoshubotu knows about that?! tell caf good job when u see him for me please sev02:31
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, j2daosh02:31
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dandielionousSeems like the people trying to help are a little overwhelmed in here.02:31
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LordMelkorany input?02:31
rjordanAnyone know how to get /etc/init.d/networking to not hang trying to bring eth0 up when it's not plugged in?02:32
tonyyarussoj2daosh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:32
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Jowineed to sleep. happy 2006 everyone. tonyyarusso hope it work out for you.02:32
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tonyyarussoJowi: Thanks.02:32
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crimsunrjordan: remove auto eth002:32
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j2daoshyeah tony.. thats what i needed... thank you02:32
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tronixrjordan: wouldn't hotplug do it? I'm not real familiar with hotplug, tho02:33
ghbI have one last problem with my ubuntu machine--my DVD-ROM reads very slow. It takes about 6-7 minutes to transfer the whole content of a regular CD. =/ Any idea on how to fix this?02:33
LordMelkorhttp://www.geocities.com/joltmajor//index.html can i get some more detailed help with this problem?02:33
rjordancrimsun, thanks02:33
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rjordantronix, I'll look into that. I'd really just like it to autodetect wether a link is present so that may work.02:34
McJerrywhy would sound not be working on a flash site in deerpark?02:34
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motorsepCan somebody help me please? And explain what difficulties will I face during migration from WinXP to Linux?02:34
LordMelkor... that depends on you02:35
CodenameKTDepends on your harddware02:35
apokryphosmotorsep: you'll require some diligence02:35
tronixrjordan: interfaces file I use has: mapping hotplug script grep map eth002:35
skon!anyone02:35
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>02:35
tronixrjordan: ('mapping hotplug', then 'script grep' then 'map eth0')02:35
LordMelkorubotu: because no one answers questions anyway02:36
ubotuLordMelkor: I give up, what is it?02:36
tonyyarussomotorsep, What background are you coming from?  (Migrated from WinXP in August.)02:36
rjordancool, I'll read up. I have that in there too.02:36
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rjordanAm I still here?02:38
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rjordanoh ok...02:38
_joshuarjordan no :p02:38
motorsepubotu: He is a real one: I have P4 1.4 Ghz, 256 PC133 RAM, 20Gb HDD, ATI 128 16Mb video, integrated sound, Ethernet adapter, DVD-burner, Wacom tablet, USB HP printer, USB Zio Realtime Videocapture device. Will I have all that working with Ubuntu?02:38
ubotumotorsep: okay02:38
tonyyarussorjordan, Quite the philisophical question there.02:38
freakazoid3333heh stloe my line02:38
freakazoid3333stole02:39
skonmotorsep: ubotu is a bot that I called in response to your question02:39
Unityjust curious, how long have some of you been using linux?02:39
bluefoxicySomebody explain the Western Digital Ripoff-- I mean Raptor.02:39
skonUnity: as a secondary OS, uh five years I guess....as a primary OS, three months02:39
tonyyarussoUnity, Since August.02:40
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rjordan8 or so as primary at home, windows at work for the past 12.02:40
skonbluefoxicy: are you referring to the fact that Western Digital uses a different system to measure their hard drive sizes so when you get a 40GB hard drive it's really like....38.5 or something02:40
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tonyyarussoCan I move things around in my bottom panel in Gnome?  (Reordering the open windows like tabs in FF?)02:41
freakazoid3333sounds like th1 19" monitor02:41
Unitytonyyarusso: yes, unlock them first02:41
tonyyarussoUnity, How?02:42
Unitytonyyarusso: or do you mean the stuff in the taskbar?02:42
rjordantonyyarusso, right click and unlock them then drag them around with middle click02:42
tonyyarussoUnity, I mean the stuff in the taskbar.  Sorry.02:42
rjordanoh no you can't do that02:42
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odatgnome rocks02:43
skonyes, gnome does rock02:43
Unitykde would be better if it didn't crash every two minutes02:43
skongnome > kde02:43
odatsorry was just feeling good about being a gnome user lol02:43
skonkde would be better if it doesn't feel like windows :P02:43
motorsepskon: So it is a bot. Hmm...02:43
Unityi migrated from kde to gnome because kde was buggy02:43
rjordanFVWM2 > *02:43
Delvien!checkinstall02:43
ubotusomebody said checkinstall was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall02:43
skonmotorsep: yes, we use him to talk to n00bs :-D02:44
Unityonce they fix kde's bugs, i'll start using it again02:44
rjordanHow does one define things that ubotu knows?02:44
odatskon, i get that too02:44
apokryphosrjordan: define?02:44
odatskel, especially with all the use our apps not gtk stuff going on there02:44
Unityrjordan: don't teach him useless things, its a bannablo offense02:44
motorsepskon: Are you familiar with Ubuntu good enough? Maybe you can explain some things to me?02:44
apokryphosrjordan: you can browse his brain at /msg ubotu list02:45
tonyyarussorjordan, You say, ubotu, yourfactoid is blahblahblah.02:45
rjordanyeah, how do I teach it things.02:45
rjordanoh thanks02:45
apokryphosrjordan: /msg ubotu help02:45
skonmotorsep: i'm not an expert but I'll be willing to help out on anything I know02:45
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tonyyarussorjordan, Ubotu's links about itself will refer you to a page with that and other info.02:46
odatapokryphos and I just had a great conversation and came to the conclusion that LINUX   is just great lololol regardless of the desktop you choose lol02:46
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foampeacedoes ubuntu have vlc and the firefox plugin?02:46
Unityodat: agreed02:46
crimsunfoampeace: yes.02:46
Kyralfoampeace: yes02:46
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Unityfoampeace: yes02:46
foampeacecrimsun: is it better then mplayier plugin02:46
skonodat: definitely....i do most of my management via terminal anyway02:46
nilslhow do i add my native language to ubuntu breezy gnome? :)02:46
j2daosh!ubotu tell me about winmac02:46
crimsunfoampeace: it's definitely more stable than mozilla-mplayer, yes.02:46
foampeaceok good02:47
foampeacescrew this debian02:47
tonyyarussofoampeace, I use the mplayer one, but I honestly haven't tried the vlc plugin.02:47
j2daoshwhere can i get the winmac script again?02:47
Unitynilsl: system > admin > language02:47
odatnilsl, through synaptic02:47
foampeaceback to ubuntu02:47
motorsepskon: So will all of my hardware work with Ubuntu?02:47
j2daoshnevermind... ill figure that out later02:47
odatskon, glad to see i'm not the only one that gets that feeling with kde02:47
j2daoshthats for the link tony... im off to reinstall02:47
visik7crimsun:  yes but vlc plugin hasn't controls02:47
visik7crimsun: time bar play/pause url retriver02:47
Johnny0motorsep - just do it - you'll find out soon enough :) no need for rocket science02:47
nilslUnity: ok02:48
nilslUnity: odat thx02:48
odatfoampeace, i find that mplayer is nicer than vlc you just have to set it up correctly02:48
Seveasapokryphos, look at the source-o-matic now :)02:48
odatnilsl, np02:48
tonyyarussovisik7, mplayer url retriever didn't work for me, I had to check Media under Page Info.02:48
crimsunvisik7: I realize that, since I touch both of those packages (mplayerplug-in and vlc)02:48
marcin`hello guys02:49
nilslis there any webdesign-editors for linux? similar to dreamweaver and such?02:49
rjordanubotu, mplayer?02:49
ubotu[mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106102:49
visik7ok kde crashed again :(02:49
skonmotorsep: there is one thing that concerns me...your graphics card....I am not familiar with ATI video cards and I know Linux might take some configuration to get different v-cards working02:49
odatnilsl, nvu02:49
marcin`what is the name of this little app to add and remove applications from ubuntu?02:49
odatnilsl, great editor that is free and open02:49
tonyyarussonilsl, nvu.  Screem and Bluefish can also be useful for coding.02:49
crimsunmarcin`: gnome-app-install?02:49
odatmarsynaptic02:49
skonmotorsep: also, no idea about your video capture device...never even worked with one before....02:49
crimsunmarcin`: I presume you mean the one in Applications> Add Applications02:49
odatmarcin`, synaptic02:49
Seveasmarcin`, apt-get, gnome-app-install, synaptic02:49
Unitynilsl: quanta is a good qt one02:49
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braniffdoes breezy incorporate SELinux ??02:50
apokryphosSeveas: very cool; remember though they are official ubuntu packs :P02:50
crimsunbraniff: no02:50
odatmarcin`, system , adminstration, synaptic package manager02:50
nilslodat: tonyyarusso thx02:50
holycowdoes places/finde files use locate/find?  do i need to sudo updatedb so that it can find files?02:50
Seveasapokryphos, no, only what's on archive.ubuntu.com is official02:50
marcin`thanks a lot...02:50
apokryphosSeveas: I don't know why they didn't put them in backports -- I suggested they do.02:50
nilslUnity: thx ok02:50
braniffhow do i install selinux on breezy ?02:50
bluefoxicyskon:  no, more on the 10,000 RPM hard drive being "faster"02:50
Seveasapokryphos, maybe the bad reputation of the backports? :)02:50
KyralBackports is offical now...02:50
crimsunbraniff: the same way you'd do it on Debian02:50
bluefoxicyskon:  but I can't find any of the 9200 or 9400 or whatever RPMs the normal drives were o.o02:50
odatnilsl, make sure you have all your repositories open when using synaptic02:51
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marcin`odat: I thought about gnome-app-install - thanks anyway02:51
apokryphosSeveas: actually, I guess you're right; in the same way backports is considered 3rd-party.02:51
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apokryphosSeveas: heh, perhaps (might've been more down to the extra hassle). Still, having to add *another* repo.. eck02:51
KyralAhem....backports is official02:51
skonbluefoxicy: hmm, I don't know anything about that. I do know about the size discrepancy though which ticks me off02:51
Seveasapokryphos, that one actually is official, but really should be in the 'use with care' section :)02:51
martint_Ubuntu, comes with Apache and mySQL right?02:51
zenwhenthey can be installed02:51
apokryphosSeveas: if backports is official than so are the kubuntu.org ones :P02:52
odati was checking out dapper the other day and man did they tweak gnome   woooo it flies02:52
Seveasapokryphos, no, kubuntu.org isn't archive.ubuntu.com02:52
Seveasbeing on archive.ubuntu.com is what makes a repository official02:53
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tonyyarussoHow does someone have 'unaffiliated' for their whois?02:54
Riddellkubuntu.org archives are official kubuntu archives02:54
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duckx0rI've been trying to set up connection sharing between ubuntu and windows xp. In windows, I can resolve names to IP addresses, but nothing responds to the pings I send. If I ping ubuntu, I get a response. Any Idea how I can get this working?02:55
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SeveasRiddell, but not official and supported ubuntu archives02:55
kinkoblastcrud, I forgot my nickserv password02:56
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apokryphosRiddell: I figure kubuntu.org archives wouldn't be displayed in bugzilla, eh?02:57
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B-166_ER-Xhow do i install amsn 0.95 ?  there is only a package for Ubuntu power pc  :\02:57
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apokryphosB-166_ER-X: compile02:57
B-166_ER-Xdang,02:57
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tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, It's in universe.02:58
Jinkgunscompiling isn't bad at all. :/02:58
B-166_ER-X0.94 is in the repos02:58
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Wait never mind.02:58
apokryphostonyyarusso: it isn't02:58
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apokryphosB-166_ER-X: sudo apt-get build-dep amsn, then compile02:58
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Some_Bodyhm, does the breezy download come with ndiswrapper, or will I have to install it seperately?02:58
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tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, apokryphos, Didn't see the version number, I was looking at 0.94.02:58
B-166_ER-X'then compile' you would need to be a bit more specific02:59
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Hobbsee!tell B-166_ER-X about compile02:59
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tonyyarussoCan someone tell me how to force a driver to a device?  (Specifically usb-storage to an mp3 player.)02:59
gonffendo you use hotplug?03:00
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Shadyma1about time03:00
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RiddellSeveas: they are official and supported kubuntu archives03:01
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Jrex-LinuxWhy is my cpu usage going to 100% just by dragging windows?03:01
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Riddellapokryphos: how do you mean?03:01
OOOOOHello, i have a question03:01
Jrex-Linux1 window03:01
Jrex-Linuxslowly03:01
Shadyma1OOOOO: So ask :)03:01
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{[Cunt] }how can i get the command make03:01
Shadyma1{[Cunt] }:  sudo apt-get install build-essential03:02
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skonSomeBody: you have to do it yourself03:02
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{[Nigguh] }thanks03:02
Some_Body:(03:02
{[Nigguh] }hi nalioth03:02
{[Nigguh] }what's wrong Some_Body03:02
skonubotu: tell Some_Body about ndiswrapper03:02
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Some_Bodythis could take roughly 5 minutes03:02
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apokryphosRiddell: in bugzilla, when you enter a package to report a bug for -- I guess it wouldn't look in kubuntu archives too03:03
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Some_Bodythat I could be spending not installing ndiswrapper03:03
Jrex-LinuxWhy is my cpu usage going to 100% just by dragging windows?03:03
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B-166_ER-Xi'M still not sure to get how to compile03:03
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Shadyma1Jrex-Linux: : Because dragging windows is CPU-intensive.03:03
skonSome_Body: assuming you have the right driver, your card is supported by ndiswrapper, and you have patience, it will take 30 minutes maximum03:03
naliothubotu: tell B-166_ER-X about compile03:04
psusiJrex-Linux, because you don't have working accelerated video drivers03:04
Jrex-Linuxits that intensize?03:04
B-166_ER-Xi read the file..03:04
apokryphosB-166_ER-X: compiling from source generally involves, (i) extracting the archive, (ii) configuring, so: ./configure (ii) make, (iii) installing the application -- sudo make install03:04
Jrex-LinuxHow would I get them?03:04
motorsepWhat is the difference between Ubuntu GNOME and Ubuntu KDE ?03:04
apokryphosmotorsep: the whole Desktop Environment03:05
gonffenone uses Gnome and one uses KDE03:05
gonffenboth are bloated03:05
gonffentry out fluxbox and rejoice03:05
duckx0rpff03:05
apokryphos!start a desktop war03:05
ubotuapokryphos: Wish i knew03:05
apokryphosheh, that's gone.03:05
Riddellapokryphos: all the packages in the kubuntu archives are also in the ubuntu archives so they'll all be in bugzilla or launchpad03:05
Jrex-LinuxHow do I get working accelerated video drivers?03:05
gonffenlol apokryphos03:05
Shadyma1Jrex-Linux: Install an accelerated video card.03:06
skonmotorsep: GNOME and KDE are windows managers, they have their own set of programs and ways to display programs and stuff...its a matter of preference which one you use. those are the most popular ones, but there are also others (of which I have no experience yet)03:06
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yanishello03:06
gonffenShadyma1, don't you have to use a special kernel for ati cards?03:06
skonHello03:06
apokryphosRiddell: so to clarify, bugzilla searches kubuntu.org archives too?03:06
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apokryphosI'd be surprised, but that's very cool.03:06
Shadyma1gonffen: There is a package for ATi cards.03:06
yaniswhat more does the dvd of ubuntu have in comparison with the cd version?03:06
gonffenah points for ubuntu :P03:06
apokryphosyanis: the DVD is install+live03:07
gonffenother distros I've seen you need to use specially compiled kernels03:07
B-166_ER-Xapokryphos,  to me, it really looks like its simpler to wait that it is in the repos,  although seeming simple, i really dont get exactly what to do, so fait , sudo apt-get build-dep amsn , have done it...but now... :\03:07
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rottenaplstrange and serious problem: i just got done doing some work to my xbox HDD, which required me to boot from a linux cd and do some stuff with my main 2 drives disconnected. well, when i plugged my drives back in when i was done, grub no longer works -- when i try to load linux, it says Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7, and Error 17: cannot mount selected partition. When i try to load the windows partition, it says someth03:08
Riddellapokryphos: no but all the packages in kubuntu archives also have versions in ubuntu archives03:08
rottenaplany ideas?!03:08
apokryphosok03:08
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rottenaplthe bios detects my drives as usual03:08
skonrottenapl: it says....somet?03:08
rottenaplsomething similar about the filesystem type not being recognized03:08
psusirottenapl, did you reconnect the drives in the same order they were before?03:09
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Jrex-LinuxShadyma1, Install an accelerated video card.? Isn't a radeon 9800 accelerated?03:09
rottenaplpsusi: one is SATA and one is IDE03:09
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rottenaplpsusi: it's the exact same configuration as before i unplugged them... there is NO way that anything i did on the livecd could have affected them, since they were unplugged03:09
Shadyma1Jrex-Linux: You need the ATi graphics card package then, though I don't know what it's called.03:09
psusiJrex-Linux, you have ot do some monkeying to get it to work... search the wiki and forums03:09
Jrex-Linux:|03:10
rottenaplpsusi: when i was in here the other day i got some help fixing grub from its command line following an HDD switch in here... i can't remember what i did to reinstall it03:10
rottenaplsomething about the root and setup commands03:10
skon!grub03:10
ubotugrub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting03:10
skonTry setting up grub again03:10
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wnoisegreetings.  am in the process of install NVIDIA binary drivers with a self-rolled kernel on Dapper and am scratching my head.  can anyone help?03:11
rottenaplit disturbs me that it no longer works03:11
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Shadyma1rottenapl: I think it'd disturb anyone that their system doesn't work.03:12
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psusirottenapl, well, partition type 7 is NTFS, so it sounds like grub is trying to boot an NTFS partition03:12
psusirottenapl, which it can't do03:12
rottenaplright03:12
rottenaplgrub is on the sata drive03:12
psusirottenapl, did you change the boot order in your bios?03:12
rottenaplwhen i do root (hd1,0) it says filesystem unknown (although that SHOULD be the sata drive's ext3 partition)03:12
garryrottenapl, so when you plugged your hard drives into a PC? they did not work? Is it possbile something happened in the bios? Can you recheck that the order of the drives on your computer is the same as it was before?03:13
rottenaplgarry: no, sorry, let me clarify. i unplugged my drives so i could mess with my XBOX's hard drive. i changed nothing with regards to my pc's config03:13
psusirottenapl, my guess is that you have managed to get the bios to swap the order of the two drives03:13
skonrottenapl: probably not a linux or grub problem...could be a hardware or a BIOS problem03:14
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garryYes, I'm thinking that something spontaneously happened withthe bios on the pc even tho you did not do it.03:14
garrysorry, meant that as a reply.03:14
psusirottenapl, so grub is trying to access the wrong drive since they are backwards03:14
yanisexit03:14
rottenapldoesnt sound out of the realm of possibility03:14
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rottenapllet me hop into the bios and see if i can even define the boot order more explicity03:14
garryI agree, but I've seen stranger things.03:14
wnoiserottenapl> is your XBOX drive IDE?  Would you have happened to turn on a previously disabled IDE controller in the PC? (that *would* change the order of the drives)03:14
rottenaplI put the XBOX drive on the same channel/cable as my IDE03:15
rottenaplgoing into bios...03:15
garryYeah, on mine, I have a drive order I can change to make the first drive look like a second drive and vice versa.03:15
rottenaplas i recalled correctly, my boot order is set to: CDROM, Hard Disk03:15
rottenaplit doesn't specify IDE over SATA03:15
rottenapland in fact, i can't distinguish03:16
psusithere is usually an option burried somewhere that sets the order between ide and sata03:16
garrynods. In mine, I can specifiy the drives by name. it was under boot.03:16
rottenaplah ha, i found it03:16
garrycrosses fingers.03:16
rottenaplit is giving priority to the SATA drive03:16
rottenaplpsusi: weren't you in here when i was getting grub set up the other day?03:16
psusirottenapl, try swapping it03:17
garryunder boot priority is there a heading down the page saying drives or drive order?03:17
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psusirottenapl, possibly... a lot goes on around here ;)03:17
rottenaploh man, thinking about it... i think i understand why it swapped it03:17
rottenaplafter i removed the xbox drive, i booted the PC on accident without plugging my IDE back in03:17
psusithat could do it03:17
tonyyarussoCan I force a device to use a particular driver?03:17
rottenaplso i'll bet it fell back to the sata drive and assumed the IDE was gone03:17
garryI had two headings, one boot priority and a seperate one that says something about drives.03:17
garryhers hoping.03:17
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garryer here's03:18
motorsepskon: Thanks. But which one resemble WinXP more? KDE or GNOME?03:18
rottenaplunfortunately, i already messed up my grub settings for sure mucking around in the cmd prompt trying to fix it beofre i realized this03:18
rottenaplbut i can change that easily enough03:18
Toma-motorsep: kde03:18
IdleOneevening03:18
psusirottenapl, yea... and you have the stage 1 grub loader installed on both disks... so when they got swapped, that part worked, but it couldn't load the OS because it was looking on the wrong drive03:18
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Toma-after a bit of hacking03:18
zenlunaticwhats a good wireless card to use in ubuntu?03:19
rottenaplokay, i am at the grub command prompt and i need to re-set it up to be safe03:19
skonmotorsep: KDE03:19
IdleOnecan somebody tell me the default directory for mozilla?03:19
psusirottenapl, just try to boot normally03:19
skonmotorsep: I prefer gnome though :-D03:19
rottenaplI have an IDE drive (windows) and an SATA drive (ext3) with grub on it. what do i need to do for the root and setup commands?03:19
rottenaplokay03:19
motorsepToma-, skon: Thanks.03:19
skonIdelOne: probably /usr/bin/mozilla03:19
rottenaplwell, that was easy enough03:19
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tonyyarussozenlunatic, I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 2915, and it works fine.03:19
rottenaplit just worked ;)03:19
psusi;)03:19
motorsepskon: Why GNOME?03:19
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IdleOnemotorsep,  ty03:19
garryYay!!03:19
supremebotcan anyone help a newbie with some network probs?03:19
Toma-zenlunatic: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HCL03:19
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rottenaplanyway, awesome. it helps a lot sometimes just to have an extra set of eyes, so to speak, to see the problem from a different angle. thank you guys!03:20
B-166_ER-Xhow to run a .bin ?03:20
garry:)03:20
tonyyarussoIdleOne, Or did you mean for it's installation folder?03:20
skonmotorsep: I like the applications bar, it's cleaner looking, I like the programs better, I find it prettier...hard to explain, matter of personal preference I guess03:20
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IdleOneinstallation folder03:20
Toma-B-166_ER-X: "sh yourfile.bin"03:20
rottenapli've been having a pretty great time with this ubuntu install so far, and i've gotten excellent support in here. i appreciate it.03:20
psusiToma-, that's not going to work03:21
tonyyarussoIdleOne, /usr/lib/mozilla (or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox).03:21
garryexcellent folks here.03:21
Toma-oh wont it?03:21
skonIdleOne: you're welcome haha03:21
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psusiToma-, no... a .bin extention usually means it's a binary, not a shell script03:21
Toma-youre telling me the last 5 years its all just a dream? :)03:21
B-166_ER-Xand it didnt03:21
psusiin that case you just chmod a+x and ./foo.bin03:21
rottenaplalright, back to it then! thanks again!03:21
IdleOnehehe yeah I meant you skon  :)03:21
Toma->:/03:21
IdleOnety tonyyarusso03:21
Toma-well all the .bin files ive had are just shell scripts03:22
Toma-bah. im outta here03:22
psusiToma-, wow... whoever did that instead of naming it .sh should be beat ;)03:22
skonDoes anyone know a tool for Debian/Ubuntu that automagically configures iptables?03:22
garryI was thinking he might have accidentally turned on the machine with one or more drives out.03:22
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garrynetconfig, but that's for slack, or it mght be net-config. It differs sometimes, if you get desperate, might try those.03:23
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tiagotitushi03:24
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matthew_wtronix / crimsun  -  I did all of that stuff and rebooted, but it didn't really seem to do anything.03:24
matthew_wbasically I'm trying to get it to look like http://root.chrizel.com/misc/usplash.png03:25
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juanrhi03:25
crimsunmatthew_w: are you using a self-compiled kernel or a Ubuntu one?03:25
IdleOnetonyyarusso, : Im trying to create a symbolic link to a file but I got a "permission denied"  now what?03:25
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garrytry sudo before the command03:25
IdleOnety03:25
garrynp03:25
ssstormyanyone around with help for audio?  my non-root users can't access it.03:26
matthew_wcrimsun; ubuntu - newest.k703:26
skongarry: yah it's not in the repositories.03:26
dncwalkhow would i change the default username/hostname on the livecd?03:26
ssstormywhen I run alsamixer, though, I'm told : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device03:26
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skondncwalk: /etc/hostname03:26
crimsunmatthew_w: did you ``dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)'' after modifying the usplash image(s)?03:26
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matthew_wcrimsun; yes.03:26
tonyyarussoI want to be able to mount the device described by 'cat /prob/bus/usb/devices' at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6516.  Can anyone help me?03:26
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sklavHi guys03:26
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sklavand happy new year03:27
sklav;)03:27
dncwalkskon: tried that.. changed terranews to something else..remastered livecd..and booted..and still ubuntu@ubuntu03:27
crimsunmatthew_w: then the initramfs doesn't have your new image.03:27
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dncwalkterranews..haha..03:27
sklavhi apokryphos kali hronia ;)03:27
matthew_wcrimsun; is there any way to make it look exactly as it does there ( http://root.chrizel.com/misc/usplash.png )  - like it did when I installed breezy?03:27
garryskon nods. Hmm. There is a search try search for net config via synaptec. might get lucky.03:27
dncwalkthe terrawhatever it is03:27
skondncwalk: hmm, dunno03:27
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Knowerrorsis seamonkey out for ubuntu yet?03:27
skongarry: did that03:27
viatortry alsaconf03:27
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supremebotcan anyone help a newbie with some network probs?03:28
garryok, I'm going to go searching.03:28
ssstormyalready used alsaconf as root03:28
skon!anyone03:28
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>03:28
crimsunmatthew_w: sure. Remove any modifications you made, purge the usplash package, reinstall the uplash package03:28
IdleOneI am having the damdest time getting java enabled03:28
B-166_ER-X!tar03:28
IdleOnecan somebody take the time to give me step by step instructions03:29
supremebotsorry for my bad english03:29
tonyyarussoIdleOne, Have you already checked out !javadebs?03:29
apokryphossklav: you too :)03:29
sklavthank u03:29
IdleOneno I havent03:29
skonsupremebot: just spit out your question and hopefully we'll be able to answer it03:29
IdleOne!javadebs03:29
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:29
supremebotok03:29
sklavbrb everyone going to watch 40 year old vergin03:30
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deopthow can i get the curses library for ubuntu03:30
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ssstormydeopt, search ncurses dev03:30
ssstormyin synaptic03:30
crimsundeopt: for compilation? libncurses5-dev03:30
deoptyep03:31
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deoptfor compile03:31
deoptis there a sudo for that03:31
ssstormydeopt, just sudo synaptic03:32
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ssstormyor sudo apt-get03:32
supremebotim running ubuntu in vmware and it has worked perfect until after some updates. now i cant get ubunto to get a ip from my router i get a ip6 insted of a ip403:32
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gonffensupremebot, use static it's better anyways03:33
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supremebotsorry what do u mean03:33
Syco54645im having some trouble with apt-get. it is causing an error saying  Couldn't stat source package list03:33
matthew_wcrimsun; alright that's done.03:33
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Syco54645what can i do to fix this03:33
matthew_wcrimsun; now the package is reinstalled.03:33
zezuhow can i tell what version of xf or xorg i'm using ?03:33
burnhamdis there a network control panel in the works for ubuntu/ gnome03:33
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motorsepskon: Is it possible to try both, GNOME and KDE, and then stay with one of them?03:34
binarydigitburnhamd: system->administration->networking03:34
zezulooks like ati updated their drivers, going to give them another shot03:34
poserjust install ubuntu and I only get a small section of gnome screen, which is all shifted up and to the right so I only get 1/4 of total window on a laptop03:34
viatorbecase your not superuser or sudoer03:34
poserany ideas on what to do?03:34
IdleOnetonyyarusso, ok I got the PPC version of the .deb what the next step?03:34
burnhamdyea i know about that binarydigit03:34
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skonmotorsep: yes, in fact i believe the default Ubuntu installation has both installed and you select which session you want to use at login03:34
binarydigitburnhamd: so what else you need?03:34
burnhamdit doesnt cover things like samba and avahi03:34
burnhamdi dont need them03:34
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tonyyarussoIdleOne, Installing .deb standalones is sude dpkg -i filename.deb03:35
burnhamdim just spouting ideas03:35
supremebotok no help bye03:35
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IdleOnesude or sudo?03:35
tonyyarussoIdleOne, sudo.  sorry03:35
IdleOnehehe thats ok03:35
IdleOnejust wanted to make sure03:35
burnhamdnew users dont like to edit many lines of config files03:35
duckx0rI've been trying to set up connection sharing between ubuntu and windows xp. In windows, I can resolve names to IP addresses, but nothing responds to the pings I send. If I ping the ubuntu box, I get a response. Any Idea how I can get this working?03:36
zezumaybe i can find it in dmesg or smth03:36
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varsendaggerhey how do i figure out where a cdrom devide is?03:36
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varsendaggerdevice?03:36
matthew_wcrimsun; is that image installed with the usplash image, a la breezy boot screen, or is it JUST the usplash source/bins etc. that are installed with the package from apt03:36
bardamuit's not /dev/hdc ?03:36
Syco54645varsendagger: /dev/cdroms03:36
bardamuor /media/cdrom*03:36
crimsunit's part of the usplash package.03:36
burnhamdsee duckx0r could benifit from one03:36
duckx0rburnhamd, from what?03:37
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dtrostisI'm trying to install the JRE plugin for Firefox 1.5 unsuccesfully, can someone walk me thru the process?03:37
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PeteyPablosudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda gives me an error03:37
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matthew_wcrimsun; so, what should I do to activate it then, just the .. uh... dpkg-reconfigure... something?03:37
PeteyPablowhat can i do?03:37
burnhamda networking control panel that covers samba and avahi ect..03:37
tonyyarusso!tell dtrostis about javadebs03:37
tonyyarussodtrostis, They make it so easy.03:37
IdleOneok right now im in /home how do i get back to my cd Desktop?03:37
crimsunmatthew_w: yes03:38
skonIdle One: cd /home/username/Desktop03:38
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tahorgPeteyPablo: you really want to erase your disk (sorry I didn't read the rest)03:38
tonyyarussoIdleOne, You can always cd ~/Desktop too.03:38
PeteyPablotahorg it's on another pc yes03:38
IdleOnety ty03:38
matthew_wcrimsun; sorry, what is the exact syntax again?03:38
tahorgPeteyPablo: what's the error ?03:38
da9000anyone know what this is all about: "kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2"03:38
PeteyPablotahorg it says its read only file system03:39
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tonyyarussoI'd like to specify to use the usb-storage driver for a device.  How can I do that, either command line or Device Manager, doesn't matter.03:39
crimsunmatthew_w: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)03:39
tahorgPeteyPablo: do you have a /dev/hda ?03:39
PeteyPabloyes03:39
tahorgls -al /dev/hda03:39
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alphyanybody know any good torrent sites?03:40
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zezuubuntu does use xorg not xfree right ?03:40
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gonffentonyyarusso, are you using hotplug?03:40
tonyyarussozezu, Yes.03:40
tahorgzezu: right03:40
tonyyarussogonffen, Yes, hotplug is running.03:40
zezuok, anyone tried these updated ati drivers ?03:40
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gonffentonyyarusso, all you should have to do is mount the drive03:40
sorush20what is the main reason that may computer keeps crashing and how do I diagnose.http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651803:40
gonffenit'll be something like /dev/sda103:40
gonffenor device rather03:41
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gonffenso say if you have an ipod and you want to mount it to /mnt/ipod it'd be something like03:41
garryskon I looked at some sites, all I got was a bunch of drivel about everything but what you were asking about. I'm stumped.03:41
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matthew_wcrimsun; I must have missed something, because in the output I got "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...03:41
matthew_w"03:41
alphyanyone know any good torrent sites?03:41
gonffenmount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/ipod03:41
posertrying to install ubuntu on an old laptop but when I boot up, the bootsplash looks fine, then when gnome starts up, the whole screen is shifted up and to the right so only a fraction of space is used and not seeing the whole screen03:41
KnowerrorsAnybody running timidity with softsynth for midi?03:41
tonyyarussogonffen, Problem is, I don't know what device it is.  sda is my hard disk, and there are no other sd?s.03:42
burnhamdsorush20 maybe because your running a athlon 6303:42
gonffensda is your hard disk?03:42
tahorgtonyyarusso: dmesg ?03:42
gonffenyour main hard disk is usb?03:42
tonyyarussogonffen, Yeah.  ThinkPad.03:42
tahorggonffen: sda is scsi disc or sata03:42
tonyyarussotahorg, How would I figure it out with that?03:42
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sorush20burnhamd: what do you mean.. ? athlon 64Bit what is wrong with it?03:42
skongarry: thanks for your help. I'm working with Bastille right now so that should secure at least a good portion of it03:42
burnhamdyou wrote 6303:42
zezuwhat should i use to convert an rpm ?03:43
Toma-zezu: alien03:43
crimsunmatthew_w: don't worry about that03:43
sorush20burnhamd: I meant 6403:43
garryskon good luck. Welcome.03:43
tonyyarussogonffen, No idea what the fs type would be either.03:43
gonffentahorg, so usb storage devices are recognized as scsi?03:43
PeteyPablohow can i completely clear a harddrive from an ubuntu live cd?03:43
gonffentonyyarusso, is it an mp3 player?03:43
zezuthx03:43
tonyyarussogonffen, Correct.  Samsung.03:43
tahorggonffen: yes, they use the scsi command layer03:43
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sorush20please have a read and help.03:43
sorush20http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651803:43
gonffenPeteyPablo, mount the partition and format03:43
gonffentahorg, ah I didn't know03:43
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gonffentonyyarusso, it'll probablly be fat03:43
YAROXHOLAS03:44
tonyyarussogonffen, Okay.  Still not sure what device it would be though.03:44
PeteyPablogonffen: how do i do that please03:44
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matthew_wcrimsun; so if I reboot now, it will be there, yes?03:44
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Toma-sorush20: have you got libdvdcss compiled for amd64 or 386?03:44
crimsunmatthew_w: yep03:44
matthew_wcrimsun; I'll try it ^_^03:44
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PeteyPablogonffen: how do i do that please03:45
tonyyarussogonffen, There are some details at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6516 in case that's useful.03:45
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IdleOnewhats the command to move a file from /tmp to /Desktop ?03:45
PeteyPablohow do i clear a hd usinb ubuntu live cd03:45
Toma-mv filename destination03:46
gonffenmv /tmp/foo ~/bar03:46
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tonyyarussogonffen: Also, the last line from dmesg | grep usb is '[4323250.381000]  usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6'03:46
tonyyarussogonffen, I'm guessing that refers to it.03:46
CaptainMorganmaybe I missed it.. but I checked man ftp... is there a command to transfer dir's from the remote to the local?03:46
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PeteyPablogonffen: how do i do that please03:46
CaptainMorgani didnt' se eit..03:46
gonffentonyyarusso, what's mount say?03:46
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tahorgtonyyarusso: dmesg | grep sd03:46
tonyyarussogonffen, Mount what?03:46
ssstormyCaptainMorgan, I think that might be a gui bonus03:47
garryI do copy and paste to get entire directories via ftp03:47
ssstormylemme look03:47
gonffenCaptainMorgan, get, but ftp doesn't seem to like directorys :\ try gftp instead03:47
tonyyarussotahorg, No output.03:47
gonffentonyyarusso, just plain mount03:47
tahorgtonyyarusso: be sure there is usb-storade and sd_mod loaded03:47
PeteyPablosomone PLEASE tell me how to format a HD with ubuntu live cd03:47
tahorgmodprobe usb-storage03:47
gonffenPeteyPablo, google format hd linux03:47
sigwhy doesn't ubuntu at installation use the i686 kernel when it is a P4 2.8ghz ?03:48
ssstormyPeteyPablo, or look up fdisk and mkfs.ext203:48
tahorgPeteyPablo: fdisk03:48
ssstormyPeteyPablo, you'll be doing it from te command line03:48
tonyyarussogonffen, Would you like me to pastebin that?03:48
PeteyPablossstormy: ok how do i do that03:48
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sigalso at boot the ntp.ubuntulinux.org clock syncronize fails ?03:48
tonyyarussosig: I had the same issue, got 686 later.03:48
siganyone know how to fix this?03:48
ssstormyPeteyPablo, fdisk the drive (while you're running the disk)03:48
Kyralsig: because there isn't enough room on the Install CD to put two kernels, so they picked the least common denomenator for x8603:48
PeteyPablossstormy: how03:48
ssstormyfdisk /dev/hda for example03:48
tahorgPeteyPablo: fdisk creates/deletes partitions03:48
PeteyPablossstormy: i want to empty it03:48
ssstormyyes I understand03:49
KyralA Kernel compiled for 386 will work on any x86 machine03:49
tahorgPeteyPablo: you then have to format those partition03:49
tahorgs03:49
ssstormywhat are you preparing it for?03:49
gonffentonyyarusso, that's a good idea03:49
PeteyPablotahorg: i want to leave it blank03:49
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PeteyPablomy friend needs to format for windows xp03:49
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slashx1896hey all03:49
siganyone else have the clock syncronizing failed from ntp.ubuntulinux.org ? If so how do you fix this?03:49
zezuwhy would synaptic be asking me for the install disk ?03:49
ssstormyPeteyPablo, if he's installing off a windows xp disk you don't need to do anything for him03:49
motorsepskon: Is there something like FAR manager for Ubuntu? http://farmanager.com/screens.php?l=en03:49
skonsig: are your network configurations correct?03:49
PeteyPablossstormy: hes on ubuntu live03:49
ssstormyzezu because the package it wants is in there03:49
PeteyPablossstormy: whats the fdisk to format03:49
ssstormyzezu and it's faster than download03:49
zezuwhy wouldn't it just download it ?03:49
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slashx1896is there any form of Microsoft Word for linux? so i can make documents and then save them and then load them on another comptuer on word03:50
zezuah can i force it to dl ?03:50
JIMSMITHpeteypablo: it should be noted that XP will offer to format the drive during the installation, so using a live cd to format might work, but its just excess work or you03:50
zezuit will be faster than finding the cd ;)03:50
IdleOnejust insert the Xp cd it will give him the option to format or install a second copy03:50
CaptainMorganssstormy,  dammit :)03:50
matthew_wcrimsun; it didn't work.03:50
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tonyyarussogonffen, Added it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/651903:50
PeteyPabloJIMSMITH: he just has a OEMN disc and its not working03:50
CaptainMorgangui it is.03:50
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Arpegiusis the rar package available in either the global or universal apt repos?03:50
skonmotorsep: for textmod?03:50
crimsunmatthew_w: have you uninstalled all other usplash packages?03:50
skonmotorsep: I mean, in text mode only?03:50
ssstormyCaptainMorgan, did you ever just try get?03:50
CaptainMorganyes..03:50
NogimixsAnyone having trouble connecting to: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26) ?03:50
CaptainMorganthat's what Im using now03:51
CaptainMorganonly works on files03:51
CaptainMorgannot dir's03:51
apokryphosArpegius: multiverse, yes.03:51
crimsunArpegius: rar03:51
slashx1896anyone?03:51
motorsepskon: Well, it works in window mode in XP and it is text window.03:51
JIMSMITHPeteypablO: ok yeah some of the "recovery cd's" not actual cd's dont format.03:51
ssstormyPeteyPablo, really you don't need to format the harddrive; a winxp installation disk will do it for you03:51
slashx1896is there a type of word for linux03:51
CaptainMorganreturns, "foo.htm" is not a regular file03:51
slashx1896microsoft word*03:51
tahorgPeteyPablo: fdisk, delete all the partition and create one big with 0xb type flag03:51
Kyralslashx1896: OpenOffice03:51
primeirocrimeOpen Office03:51
PeteyPablotahorg: tell me how03:51
primeirocrimeor Abiword03:51
slashx1896does it come already installed? or do i gotta install it03:51
skonmotorsep: midnight commander :-D03:51
motorsepskon: But it's really comfortable since I love Norton Commander for DOS :P03:51
ssstormytahorg, is there a command to like, mkfs.raw or something?03:51
ssstormyactually03:51
primeirocrimein Ubuntu it's pre-installed03:51
slashx1896kk03:52
slashx1896thanks03:52
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matthew_wcrimsun; yes.03:52
dad_gcc can't make executabales03:52
IdleOnetonyyarusso,  when I do  sudo dpkg -i ibm-j2re1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb I get " cannot access archive: No such file or directory "03:52
ssstormyPeteyPablo, if you really want to blank it, do the following: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda (replace hda with te drive's name, if hda isn't it)03:52
tahorgPeteyPablo: fdisk /dev/hda03:52
matthew_wcrimsun; all it does is go black for a few seconds with a blinking cursor in the top left, and then it just goes as normal.03:52
slashx1896OpenOffice Writer?03:52
tahorgPeteyPablo: then 'p' <enter>03:52
PeteyPablossstormy: i tried that he gets an error03:52
tahorgto see all the partitions03:52
crimsunmatthew_w: check the symlinks03:52
crimsunmatthew_w: I have to leave03:52
tonyyarussoIdleOne, You have to be in the directory you saved it to.03:52
ssstormyPeteyPablo, strange.  what error?03:52
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PeteyPablossstormy: hold on03:53
IdleOneI am03:53
skonslashx1896: yes, and it's better than Microsoft Word, just heavy on memory and processor speed03:53
cheatersrealmcan I upgrade an existing 5.04 install to a 5.10 install without a cd?03:53
IdleOneI moved it to the desktop03:53
PeteyPablohes gonna paste it from gaim one sec03:53
dad_gcc can't make executabales could you help me please03:53
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NogimixsAnyone having trouble connecting to: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26) ? happens when I try update03:53
tonyyarussocheatersrealm, Yep.  You want it with Synaptic or command line?03:53
skoncheatersealm: yes03:53
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ssstormydad_, it most certainly can.  if you don't specify, the ex will be called a.out03:53
cheatersrealmtonyyarusso: command line please03:54
PeteyPablossstormy: dd: opening `dev/null': No such file or directory03:54
dad_does not have permissions03:54
JIMSMITHquestion/new user/ have a efault install of 5.10, on laptop with intel audio- sound is not working. Im familiar with windows driver downloading, but what would the equivelent be in ubuntu? How do I find drivers or configure the os to see and use things it des not see natively (no command line exipirince, but willing to try, dont want to use windows again)03:54
ssstormyPeteyPablo, change that to /dev/null03:54
tonyyarussocheatersrealm, Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, replacing all instances of 'hoary' with 'breezy'.03:54
ssstormyPeteyPablo, note the first forward slash03:54
PeteyPablossstormy: change what?03:54
tonyyarussocheatersrealm, sudo apt-get update03:54
tahorgPeteyPablo: /dev/null not dev/null03:54
cheatersrealmthanks tonyyarusso03:54
tonyyarussocheatersrealm, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:54
PeteyPablothats the error he gets03:54
tonyyarussocheatersrealm, And then you're done.03:54
primeirocrimeI know this might be esoteric but... as anyone had any success with a firewire audio card? like edirol FA 101 or FA 6603:54
Arpegiusdo i need to go into the multiverse to get the rar archiver?03:54
ssstormyPeteyPablo, which means he's inputting dev/null not /dev/null03:55
ssstormyhe's giving it the wrong filename03:55
skonmotorsep: check it out yet?03:55
PeteyPablosudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda  he gets this error dd: opening `dev/null': No such file or directory03:55
matthew_wcrimsun; what is a symlink?03:55
tonyyarussogonffen, ping.03:55
PeteyPablossstormy: what should he do?03:55
gonffentonyyarusso, pong03:55
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tahorgcheatersrealm: it's about 600MB of package (was more than 1GB for me)03:55
gonffentonyyarusso, not really sure :(03:55
tonyyarussogonffen, Any ideas that I might be able to try though?03:55
gonffentonyyarusso, did you try /dev/sdb1?03:55
cheatersrealmthat's fine.. I have a 5.04 install disk for ppc but not a 5.10 one :)03:55
tonyyarussogonffen, There is no such device.  sda is all I've got.03:56
ssstormyhave him do this: ls /dev/null03:56
tahorgcheatersrealm: and a good adsl line I hope :)03:56
dad_gcc does not have permissions to make a file  when i try to install a program, can you help03:56
gonffentonyyarusso, I don't know then sorry03:56
crimsunmatthew_w: ls -l /usr/lib/usplash03:56
cheatersrealmtahorg: university line :) and the uni is shut down right now03:56
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crimsunmatthew_w: make sure the symlinks are valid.03:56
cheatersrealmprobably about a 10mbit line03:56
tonyyarussogonffen, Merph.  Okay.03:56
gonffendad_, did you compile as root?03:56
poserwhen the boosplash begins, what configuration does it use? like xorg?03:56
poseror framebuffer?03:56
matthew_wcrimsun; it output some stuff, but it doesn't make sense to me x-x03:56
tonyyarussoSo when you apt-get install a program, where does it go on the filesystem?03:56
dad_I did with sudo03:57
tonyyarussoAnd can you change that?03:57
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PeteyPablossstormy: */dev/null03:57
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dad_I did with sudo and it still did not work03:57
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skontonyarruso: probably /usr/bin/progname03:58
matthew_wcrimsun; what -should- it say, ... approximately.03:58
ssstormyPeteyPablo, he types ls /dev/null and gets */dev/null  !?!?!03:58
PeteyPablossstormy: yea03:58
tom__anyone here an expert at getting additional screen resolutions working?03:58
ssstormyPeteyPablo, ok something is really weird with that system of his03:58
PeteyPablossstormy: he is on ubuntu live cd03:58
cheatersrealmtom__: you could edit xorg.conf manually03:58
tonyyarussoskon: What about all of the other parts that go with a program?  configurations, libraries, etc?03:58
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tom__I've tried editing the xorg.conf to add a 1280x1024 for my LCD monitor, but no such luck.03:59
JIMSMITHon laptop with intel audio- sound is not working. Im familiar with windows driver downloading, but what would the equivelent be in ubuntu? what would be my basic steps to make it work?03:59
crimsunmatthew_w: the symlink for /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so should point to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so, the latter which should exist, obviously03:59
ssstormyPeteyPablo, does he have any boot floppies?  even the most basic ones?03:59
zezuanyone know of a way of forcing synaptic to download all packages ?03:59
IdleOne!javadebs03:59
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:59
skontonyyarusso: configurations probably go in /home/yourName/.programname03:59
PeteyPablossstormy: no, and it was /dev/null not */dev/null03:59
zezui really dont feel like downloading the install cd and burning it again03:59
tonyyarussoI can see this stupid mp3 player in the Device Manager, but don't know how to mount it!03:59
ssstormyzezu, remove the cd from the sources list03:59
tonyyarussoskon: Ah.03:59
ssstormyok try this03:59
PeteyPablossstormy: what does he do03:59
skontonyyarusso: libraries.... I'm guessing /usr/bin/lib03:59
ssstormycd /dev03:59
burnhamdtom_  there is a way to run the xorg wizard or whatever it is to find all screen resolutions03:59
burnhamdlook on ubuntu forums03:59
skontonyyarusso: libraries.... actually /usr/lib04:00
ssstormydd if=null of=hda04:00
zezuahuman01, its in the list with the servers04:00
zezui looked all over for options04:00
PeteyPablossstormy: sudo ?04:00
ssstormyyeah04:00
zezuerr wtf, damn auto complete04:00
ssstormyunless he's logged in as root04:00
tom__burnhamd: Yeah I've run the reconfigure tool but that doesn't even place the 1280x124 in the conf file04:00
tonyyarussoskon: Right.04:00
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tom__And I know the card (a not-too-old nvidia) can handle the resolution04:00
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PeteyPablossstormy: dd: opening `null': No such file or directory04:00
D1what happens when you put it in manually?04:00
burnhamdwhat are you running tom04:00
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matthew_wcrimsun:  I get usplash.artwork.so (in red) -- >  /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so04:00
skonSomeone know how to close ports using iptables?04:01
zezui see alien installs rpm, should i just use rpm to install or convert with alien?  will it make a huge difference ?04:01
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_alanwhat does  lspci -v |grep -i audio do? for me it just goes to the next line .. no error  does not list my sound car04:01
zezui'm installing bogus ati drivers ;)04:01
_alan...card04:01
burnhamdyes have you tried putting it in manually04:01
ssstormyPeteyPablo, file /dev/null04:01
crimsunmatthew_w: it should be cyan. Red indicates a dangling symlink.04:01
D1and what happens?04:01
D1it should work in theory.04:01
tonyyarussocrimsun, Where are those color options defined?04:01
matthew_wcrimsun; ok, well, what should it point to?04:01
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tom__burnhamd: It's an nvidia card on an lcd monitor, editing the xorg.conf makes no difference.04:02
matthew_wlet me try purging once more04:02
crimsuntonyyarusso: bash's conffiles.04:02
PeteyPablossstormy: /dev/null: character special (1/3)04:02
D1burnhamd: what is your DefaultDepth line read?04:02
crimsunmatthew_w: I told you above#04:02
burnhamdd1 im not the one with the problem04:02
tom__burnhamd: I even tried adding a modeline, but that turned out badly.04:02
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ssstormyoh ok try this04:02
D1er04:02
crimsunmatthew_w: sorry, but I have to go now. I'll be back in a few hours.04:02
D1sorry then04:02
ssstormyPeteyPablo, have him cd /dev04:02
D1whoever it is...04:02
garryYou might have to hand-specifiy the horizontal and vertical refresh rates for the lcd monitor in xorg.conf04:02
ssstormythen dd if=nu04:02
ssstormybut04:02
ssstormydon't hit eneter04:03
burnhamdtom the only thing that worked for me was xorg reconfigure04:03
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burnhamddid you restart  the x server after that04:03
matthew_wI'm going to remove the contents of /etc/alternatives/ - is this ok?04:03
matthew_w(anyone)04:03
tom__oh yeah I restarted several times04:03
ssstormytap tab a few times after finishing dd if=nu  BEFORE hitting enter04:03
PeteyPablossstormy: ok04:03
PeteyPablossstormy: 742 possibilities?04:03
PeteyPablossstormy: yes or no04:03
ssstormyno04:03
tom__garry: damn those refresh reates. I wonder if I can find them.04:03
PeteyPablossstormy: ok04:04
ssstormydo that again04:04
burnhamdreconfigure lets you specify them also04:04
ssstormyand write dd if=nul04:04
ssstormyand then tab04:04
PeteyPablossstormy: ok04:04
tom__garry: do you think having incorrect refresh rates would make a resolution not be presented in the "screen resolutions" preference dialog?04:04
PeteyPablossstormy: keeps going to 742 possibilities04:04
ssstormyhit yes this time04:04
ssstormylet's see what those options look like04:05
garrytom__ I know what you mean, took me forever to find them on the manufacturer website for my samsung monitor and I clicked the link and it gave me the rates for the wrong monitir. Yes, it could make them not present.04:05
PeteyPablook04:05
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ssstormyPeteyPablo, I opened a dialog box, let's talk in there04:05
garrytom__ had I not noticed the goof up on the link, I'd have had a toasty monitor.04:05
PeteyPablossstormy: ok04:05
IdleOnetonyyarusso,  may i msg you?04:05
tom__garry: hmm, ok. I guess I'll try to track those down.04:05
tonyyarussoIdleOne, Sure.04:06
tronixPeteyPabl: if he does: # ls -l /dev/null04:06
tronixdoes it print out something liek this:04:06
IdleOneSelecting previously deselected package ibm-j2re1.5.04:06
IdleOne(Reading database ... 59210 files and directories currently installed.)04:06
IdleOneUnpacking ibm-j2re1.5 (from ibm-j2re1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb) ...04:06
IdleOnedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ibm-j2re1.5:04:06
IdleOne ibm-j2re1.5 depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:04:06
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tronixcrw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 2006-01-03 14:47 /dev/null04:06
IdleOne  Package libglib1.2 is not installed.04:06
PeteyPablossstormy: i dont see it04:06
garrytom__ good luck to ye.04:06
IdleOne ibm-j2re1.5 depends on libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4); however:04:06
IdleOne  Package libgtk1.2 is not installed.04:06
tom__thanks!04:06
IdleOne ibm-j2re1.5 depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:04:06
IdleOne  Package libstdc++5 is not installed.04:06
IdleOnedpkg: error processing ibm-j2re1.5 (--install):04:06
IdleOne dependency problems - leaving unconfigured04:06
IdleOneErrors were encountered while processing:04:06
tronix(doesn't matter what date/time it says, but it's important it has crw-rw-rw and '1, 3' in there04:06
IdleOne ibm-j2re1.504:06
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ssstormyPeteyPablo, try opening one yourself to talk to me, and type04:06
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PeteyPablodone04:06
tonyyarussoIdleOne, Stop pasting or you'll get yourself banned.04:06
matthew_wCan anyone else please help me with getting this to work04:07
IdleOnesorry04:07
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matthew_wusplash04:07
tonyyarussoIdleOne, You can do that in a pm, but not the channel.  Send a pm, let me respond so another tab opens for you, then put it in there.04:07
IdleOneok04:07
tronixmatthew_w: what was the url you were looking at? maybe I can take a quick attempt04:07
jon_exit04:07
jon_quit04:08
tonyyarussoIdleOne, (btw, you have to be registered to pm)04:08
PeteyPablossstormy: ?04:08
IdleOnedidnt mean to paste that in channel04:08
IdleOnelol04:08
ssstormyyou can't see what I'm saying04:08
x86-64hi, I had a 10GB partition setup on an external USB drive... I connected the drive to a 15" mac powerbook and booted off the live Ubuntu 5.10 DVD... I changed the 10GB partition into a 8MB Apple partition map, 5 GB ext3 primary, then a 700MB swap and 5GB ext3... after installing ubuntu to the first 5GB ext3, I couldn't install yaboot... is there a way to do this for the drive?  (i have OS X 10.4 on the internal drive and would rather not mod04:08
ssstormyPeteyPablo, I can read your messages though, so paste the output you get in there.  otherwise, you'll get booted frolm the channel - flood04:08
tonyyarussoIdleOne, I pasted an entire file, I think my xorg.conf, once, trying to pm it and messing up.  That was fun...04:09
tronix:)04:09
PeteyPablook pasted04:10
matthew_wtronix; well, actually now I'm doing some kind of symbolic link, thing.04:10
matthew_wtronix; it's installed, it comes with a default, that's the one I want to use, it just.. isn't working... for some reason04:10
ssstormyPeteyPablo, there is something wrong here, but I don't know what so let's do it a different way04:10
ssstormyfdisk /dev/hda04:10
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ssstormythen have him type "m" and hit enter04:11
tronixmatthew_w: if you've been following steps from a particular URL, I can try to reproduce04:11
zezui've just installed the ati drivers converted rpm to debian package and installed w/ dpkg,  how can i make sure that it uses this driver?04:11
ssstormyit will show the commands04:11
ssstormydelete all the partitinos04:11
zezui need some method of debugging this madness ;|04:11
matthew_wtronix; alright but..04:11
PeteyPablossstormy: ok how do you delete all partitions04:11
ssstormyyou can use "p" (print) to see how many04:11
matthew_whttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28usplash%2904:12
ssstormy"d" to delete one04:12
matthew_wtronix; keep in mind that the artwork I want to use is the default (/usr/local/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so)04:12
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PeteyPablossstormy: thats above his skills04:12
tronixmatthew_w: that's fine. I'll take a stab at it04:12
tom__garry: oh hell yes, it works now. Refresh rates baby!04:12
ssstormyPeteyPablo, so if ti's really simple how about like this04:12
ssstormyd04:12
ssstormyand at the next prompt04:13
ssstormy104:13
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PeteyPablosstormy04:13
garrytom__ Congrats!04:13
PeteyPablossstormy: what does he do in what order04:13
matthew_wtronix; give'r by.04:13
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ssstormyand hit enter at each following prompt until he gets back to the normal one that says "m for help"04:13
PeteyPablossstormy: he is their04:13
PeteyPablossstormy: what does he do?04:13
tonyyarussozezu: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep ati or cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx will tell you which it's using, and you can edit that file if it's wrong.04:13
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tom__garry: no more 1024x768. I love ubuntu/debian. Thanks again!04:13
tom__lates04:13
ssstormythen04:14
ssstormyd04:14
ssstormyand at next prompt04:14
ssstormyhave him type "2" and do enters just like before.  Repeat this cycle for #'s 1-404:14
PeteyPablossstormy: he needs to define a partition04:14
zezuwell i have mult installs of fglrx installed likely04:14
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Kr0ntabsup folks04:14
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_alancan anyone help me with a sound problem04:14
PeteyPablossstormy: says no partition defined04:14
ssstormyPeteyPablo, yeah, that's just #'s 1-404:14
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ITSa341Kr0ntab  Hi04:14
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tonyyarussozezu: Hrm, that could complicate matters.  Not sure.04:15
burnhamdalan whats the problem04:15
Kr0ntabhey ITSa34104:15
PeteyPablossstormy: this isnt gonna work for him04:15
ssstormyhmm04:15
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PeteyPablossstormy: can he do this with gparted?04:16
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matthew_wtronix; gonna try something, brb.04:16
ssstormyPeteyPablo, yeah that would probably be easier, if it's installed04:16
PeteyPabloit has it04:16
PeteyPablohow does he do it on gparted04:16
zezubrb reboot04:16
ssstormyso start gparted04:17
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PeteyPablohe is their04:17
ssstormyyou know what, I'm really spamming this channel.  Can you give me your SN in the message window?04:17
PeteyPabloFearTheTrain04:17
PeteyPablo@ aim04:17
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sorush20hi guys04:18
burnhamdeveryone spam peteypablo on his aim account now04:18
tronixmatthew_w: bad news... worked for me out of the box. ;)04:18
tronixmatthew_w: all I did was: # apt-get install libbogl-dev usplash04:18
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tronixmatthew_w: then # dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) and rebooted04:18
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sorush20I need to find out if I were to get rid of all the data on my root partition and keep the data on my home partition .. when I install the root partitions with a different verions of ubuntu will the home partition be written over resulting in the loss of my program configurations?04:19
egytrackhello , i don't know why google website dosn't work in firefox , i'm using router and switch for the internet . network04:19
tonyyarussoWhat does this error mean for a locate?: warning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory04:19
tronixegytrack: other websites works ok?04:19
skonegytrack: that's very vague. open up a terminal and try ping google.com and see what happens04:19
tronixtonyyarus: you haven't yet run /etc/cron.daily/find at least once04:19
tronix(to generate the locate db)04:19
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tonyyarussotronix, Ah.  Will that need sudo or is regular fine?04:20
tronixyou can either let it run during daily cron job processing or run it once by hand04:20
matthew_wtronix; nope.04:20
sorush20guys when you search in the ubuntu forum and you view the first result then click on the next thread  you don't go to the next thread in the search result instead you go to the next thread somewhere else any help?04:20
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tronixtonyyarus: gonna need sudo, I think04:20
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egytrackskon , yes i can ping google ..04:20
tonyyarussotronix, 'k, thanks.04:20
skonegytracks: and all other sites work?04:20
Arpegiusanyone familiar w/ alien? i thought i was installing an rpm but apparently it just made a deb file of it...?04:20
Madpilotsorush20: It's been a while since I upgraded to Breezy, but I think the dist-upgrade stuff asks a lot of questions about config files & replacing/keeping them04:21
egytracktronix , yes other website works04:21
skonArgpegius: alien converts rpm to deb, that's what you want under Ubuntu/ Debian04:21
mikearthurArpegius: thats what it does04:21
tronixmatthew_w: hmm... usplash only worked for boot-up but switched back to a text mode screen instead of keeping a transparent bg... hmm.04:21
visik7fu**ing flash plugin04:21
skonegytrack: perhaps a DNS server problem....might want to double check that04:21
visik7I hate it!!!04:21
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tronixegytrack: do you use PPP over Ethernet? and have a firewall in between?04:21
tronix(or use VPNs)04:21
zezuwhy do i bother04:21
matthew_wtronix; explain that a little further?04:21
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sorush20Madpilot: how do I upgrade from 386 to amd64?04:21
Arpegiusmikearthur, so then i install the deb?04:21
tronixmatthew_w: well, for me, it brings this awesome looking screen but only for duration of the boot. when boot is done, it switches to a text mode login for tty1/tty2/etc04:22
mikearthurArpegius: yeh04:22
Madpilotsorush20: no idea, I just run 32bit here04:22
mikearthurdpkg -i whatever04:22
burnhamdsorush just install it over again04:22
tronixmatthew_w: on Gentoo, with gensplash, it stays in framebuffer mode even post-boot, on the console04:22
burnhamdexcept with 64bit04:22
egytracktronix : i have router and switch i use switch for internet , router may open ports and port forward for other app04:23
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Arpegiusmikearthur, sweet thnx04:23
tonyyarussoWould someone be willing to look over my gdm script to try to figure out why it is breaking console switching for me?  If I stop gdm and startx from a terminal I can switch again.04:23
tronixegytrack: does your ISP require you to configure router for PPPoE?04:23
zezuwhat is the file that has all the system bootup messages in it ?04:23
tronixi.e. you have to give username/password to login to the ISP to bring up connection?04:23
egytrackskon : what do u mean ?04:23
tonyyarussotronix, Now we got bash: /etc/cron.daily/find: No such file or directory04:23
tronixtonyyarus: maybe I'm misremembering.. let me check paths real quick. I know I ran something like that last night. brb04:23
zezualways has the errors for my ati drivers in it04:23
matthew_wtronix; oh I see, mine goes into X after that, so that would be fine, if I could get it to run.04:24
matthew_wtronix; what did you do exactly?04:24
viatoranyone know how to save everything on a website ?04:24
skonegytrack: if your DNS server is wrong, that means many of the domian names will fail, but others will work at random, you might want to make sure you've selected the correct one04:24
Klementaszezu: dmesg ?04:24
garryyou should be able to see your messages by doing dmesg | more04:24
zezuKlementas, no its not dmesg04:24
Klementaszezu: otherwise, the log files are in /var/log04:24
matthew_wtronix; I just apt-get usplash'd after purging it.04:24
tonyyarussotronix, Maybe /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate?04:24
viatorsee if i click save page as04:24
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zezuah yes i think thats it04:24
Klementaszezu: /var/log/messages04:24
KindredI need help reading my cd drive in a chroot .. I believe I have the fstab edited correctly but it shows up blank, if anyone knows about this stuff that would be great :|04:24
viatorit only saves the first page04:24
viatorand not all the other ones etc04:24
egytracktronix : no it's PPPoA04:24
viatorheres what the gist is04:25
ITSa341Kr0ntab   check your IMs04:25
tonyyarussotronix, Or /sbin/findfs?04:25
tronixtonyyarus: do you have 'findutils' installed?04:25
viatormy wife has one of those free web pages she saved alot of artwork pics on it04:25
viatorand she doesnt remember the password etc04:25
viatori know she can just goto each pic and choose save as04:25
tronixegytrack: ahhh! that makes sense. you might have either a MTU problem or firewall filtering too much ICMP04:25
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viatorbut thatll take a long time04:25
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tronixegytrack: one workaround is to lower the MTU size by 2004:26
tonyyarussotronix, I do, not sure if the person I'm helping does.  Will check.04:26
tronixegytrack: for eth004:26
matthew_wtronix; did you just install the package and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) ?04:26
viatorso any ideas?04:26
tronixmatthew_w: yep that's exactly all I did.04:26
viatorhowto get all the pics at once04:26
matthew_wtronix; I'll try that now that I've purged it04:26
tronixmatthew_w: installed both libbogl-dev and usplash04:26
matthew_wI think I have libbogl-dev04:27
matthew_wI installed it earlier04:27
matthew_wyep.04:27
tonyyarussotronix, With it installed I don't have just find in that directory either; find.notslocate04:27
Arpegiushow can i find out where a .deb put the files it installed?04:27
matthew_wAlright, I'll reboot and see...04:27
tonyyarussotronix, Yep, they have it.04:27
matthew_wHold it..04:27
MadpilotArpegius: what was the app you installed?04:27
dabaR__Arpegius: dpkg -L blah.deb04:27
zezu./modules/radeon_drv.o is not the ati driver is it ?04:27
garryviator, I would say go to the site, there should be under login or support, an option like "Forgot Password" which should cause her password to be emailed to her. Most sites have provision for that.04:27
matthew_wtronix; for some reason, I have another broken symbolic link.. when I do ls -l /usr/lib/usplash04:27
matthew_wtronix; do you?04:27
zezuvendor says X.Org foundation04:28
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tronixtonyyarus: here's what I show (real short paste):04:28
tronixroot@ubuntu:~# dpkg -L findutils|grep cron.daily04:28
tronix/etc/cron.daily04:28
tronix/etc/cron.daily/find04:28
tronixroot@ubuntu:~# dpkg -l findutils|grep findutils04:28
tronixii  findutils      4.2.22-2       utilities for finding files--find, xargs, and locate04:28
ArpegiusMadpilot, maya :-P04:28
tronixmatthew_w: let me check04:28
MadpilotArpegius: try just typing "maya" at a prompt04:28
Arpegius...tried that first...04:28
egytrackskon : i use vmware , so it must take DNS from it.04:28
egytrackskon : i try to add right DNS .  and router ip04:29
skonegytrack: er..okay04:29
Arpegiusit doesn't seem to be installing it at all. i had to convert the maya rpms to debs and when i run the deb install it says the following:04:29
egytrackskon : still dosn't work ..04:29
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tonyyarussotronix, I have that output for the first one, plus diverted by slocate to: /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate04:29
skonegytrack: sorry, I'm not sure....could be something about how you are using vmware?04:29
tronixtonyyarus: same version?04:30
egytracktronix : i don't understand , you mean change MTU ?04:30
tonyyarussotronix, Yeah.04:30
tronixegytrack: my boss had that same problem with ebay due to technical reasons with his networking setup04:30
matthew_wtronix; ls -l /usr/lib/usplash, tell me the output, see if it matches.04:30
tronixegytrack: had to lower MTU size from 1500 to 1480 to make all websites work04:30
egytracktronix : in router config ?04:31
tronixegytrack: i'm not sure where to set MTU size in ubuntu. I've used it only 14 hours so far. :)04:31
tronixbut I would guess maybe in /etc/network/interfaces04:31
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tronixmatthew_w: I show this:04:31
tronixroot@ubuntu:~# ls -l /usr/lib/usplash04:31
tronixtotal 3004:31
tronixlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    36 2006-01-03 17:16 usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so04:31
tronix-rw-r--r--  1 root root 29304 2005-10-07 16:39 usplash-default.so04:31
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matthew_wtronix; is the first one red?04:32
tronixand /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so points to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so04:32
egytracktronix : i have router can i set it on router or on system ?04:32
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matthew_wtronix; that would be the problem, then04:32
egytracktronix : also yahoo website dosn't work04:32
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matthew_wtronix, let me just fix that -  how do I change where a symbolic link points04:32
rapid_burni was wondering if i could get some help04:32
tronixmatthew_w: can use 'rm <symlink> ; ln -s ...' or 'ln -sf ...' to do it in one step04:32
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rapid_burndoes anyone use ubuntu for pro audio?04:33
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tronixegytrack: hmm... if you can set MTU on the router, that's best. but if not, can set on system.04:33
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tronixtonyyarus: hmm. that is a weird one.04:34
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matthew_wtronix; okay, and /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so doesn't exist, how can I create it, and make it point to /usr/lib/usplash-default.so04:34
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tronixmatthew_w: let me see what package provides that stuff. one sec04:34
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tonyyarussotronix, It looks like /etc/cron.daily/slocate is doing on my system what we hope to do, so that must be it...04:34
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rapid_burnis adrour any? good?04:35
tonyyarussoWhat do the load average numbers in uptime mean?04:35
tronixtonyyarus: good deal.04:35
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tronixmatthew_w: you've done the dpkg-reconfigure? that might be what provides the artwork symlinks04:36
mojombohey, I have a x windows app I downloaded (not through add applications) and I'd like to have it appear in the applications menu dropdown. Any ideas on how to do that?04:36
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egytrackI wonder why i can ping yahoo and google and dosn't show in browser !!!!04:36
egytrackstrange !04:37
matthew_wtronix; actually, I went to /etc/alternatives and did    ln -s /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so04:37
tronixegytrack: not really. if you filter out icmp messages relating to path mtu discovery, you'll unintentionally blackhole sites involving larger packets04:37
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matthew_wtronix; so now I have in /usr/lib/usplash -- a symbolic link pointing to /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so which is pointing to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so04:37
tronixmatthew_w: that'd work, too.04:38
matthew_wtronix; delightfully pointless, but I think it will work.04:38
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tronix:)04:38
matthew_wtronix; lemme give'r a try04:38
tronixnot sure why this arrangement, either, myself.04:38
bodaciousbrianwhats the package that contains windows codecs, for video?04:38
bodaciousbrianw32codecs is what it was i think... but it doesnt exist now =/04:38
tonyyarussobodaciousbrian, w32codecs04:38
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bodaciousbrianwhy cant i see it with updated repositories?04:39
egytrackPING google.com (72.14.207.99) 56(84) bytes of data.04:39
egytrack64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=248 ms04:39
bodaciousbrianive added the other repositories like multiverse and such also04:39
tronixegytrack: the site is reachable, dns is working, but you appear to be dropping large packets to the websites with problems04:39
tronixegytrack: you'll have to adjust your icmp filtering or adjust your MTU to fix04:39
HarimwakairiSorry to butt in, but is there a linux shell command to do what ipconfig does in windows?04:39
tonyyarussobodaciousbrian, It doesn't fit in with the Ubuntu policy of what it will offer, I get mine from PLF repos.04:39
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tronixHarimwaka: ifconfig04:40
tronix(well, for IP addressing... it won't show other info like DNS, etc)04:40
Harimwakairithx04:40
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bodaciousbriantonyyarusso, where do i find thoes repos?04:40
mrtrosen!w32codecs04:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install04:40
tonyyarusso!tell bodaciousbrian about plf04:40
egytrackhow to adjust your icmp filtering or adjust your MTU to fix ?04:40
B-166_ER-Xi tried to install amsn 0.95 by compiling it... i thought it was okay..but :  it only runs when i run it in console, and with sudo , any help ?04:41
tronixegytrack: do you do any filtering? like firewall stuff?04:41
egytrackyes router04:41
egytrackfirewall - nat04:41
tronixegytrack: okay. make sure it permits ICMP traffic through04:41
bodaciousbriantonyyarusso, thank you04:41
tronixegytrack: if that does not help, see if you can set the MTU size lower (default is 1500) to 1480 on your router04:42
tronixegytrack: if you don't find an option on the router, set it lower on your Linux system instead04:42
B-166_ER-Xpleae?04:42
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titanium_platypuI'm trying to compile a source package that needs SDL04:43
titanium_platypuI can't find a .deb package for that?04:43
titanium_platypu.*04:43
titanium_platypuwhat must I do?04:43
egytracktronix : is it port forwarding option ?04:43
egytracktronix : in router ?04:43
SEJefftitanium_platypu, 'apt-cache search sdl' and then 'sudo apt-get install packagename'04:43
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tronixegytrack: look at all router options until you find something that talks about MTU04:44
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matthew_wtronix; it worked.  Rockin'.04:44
tronixegytrack: if you can't find it anywhere on router, then edit /etc/network/interfaces on your Ubuntu machine04:44
tronixmatthew_w: splendid!04:44
SEJefftitanium_platypu, maybe 'apt-cache search sdl | less' will be better04:44
tronixegytrack and modify eth0 to add one line that says:04:44
tronix       mtu 148004:44
B-166_ER-Xi tried to install amsn 0.95 by compiling it... i thought it was okay..but :  it only runs when i run it in console, and with sudo , any help ? i am really idea less on this.04:45
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titanium_platypubrb04:45
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bodaciousbriantonyyarusso, the plf doesnt work for 64 bit systems does it?04:46
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, What happens if you run it with sudo from gnome-terminal (or emulator of choice)?04:46
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  gnome-terminal ?04:47
tonyyarussobodaciousbrian, No, not that one anyway.04:47
bodaciousbriantonyyarusso, darn, that sounded really cool04:47
matthew_wtronix; now I don't suppose you know anything about installing DirectX/Windoze games on Ubuntu?04:47
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Terminal emulator, in Applications > Accessories > Terminal.04:47
tronixmatthew_w: Cedega. :)04:47
B-166_ER-Xyeap04:47
tonyyarussobodaciousbrian, You could contribute 64 versions for them.04:47
B-166_ER-Xrunning it like this for 'now' testing purpose04:48
tronixmatthew_w: costs money but is by far the best way to do it.04:48
matthew_wtronix; w/out paying a metric arseload?04:48
tronixmatthew_w: otherwise, it can be a real headache.04:48
matthew_wtronix; oh, I had a question, then...04:48
B-166_ER-Xi have to 'sudo amsn'04:48
B-166_ER-Xthen it works04:48
bodaciousbriantonyyarusso, they do have something about amd64 on here, ill see what it says04:48
B-166_ER-Xthe only way i managed..04:48
matthew_wtronix; if I just pay for 1 months subscription, and then never subscribe again, do I still own the prog, or will it stop working X_X ?04:48
IdleOnetonyyarusso:  and tronix :   thank you both for all your help04:48
tronixmatthew_w: own it, I believe. just won't get updates04:48
matthew_wtronix; boo hoo ;)04:48
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egytracktronix : in router ?04:49
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egytracktronix : could not find the MTU , in file interfaces !04:49
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tonyyarussoUh, where DO you get  Windows codecs for 64 bit?04:50
matthew_wtronix; on a scale of 1-10, how sure are you that if I subscribe for only one month I'll be able to play ad infinitum with games I already own?04:50
sorush20amd 64 running on kernel 386? should I run it on k7?04:50
tronixegytrack: on Ubuntu system, you have to modify file 'interface's to add mtu 1480 line for eth004:50
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sorush20how do I find out what the status of my cpu is right now?04:50
tonyyarussobodaciousbrian, You might be able to compile from source from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412.orig.tar.gz04:50
tronixmatthew_w: I think I'd say odds are pretty good?04:50
mazdaracerevening from seatte! And happy New Year to all!04:50
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:51
tronixmatthew_w: you can check to see what the supported games are before forking over money, I think.04:51
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matthew_wtronix; I'm counting on you here ;)  if it fudges out on me after a month I'll be peeved.  lol.04:51
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B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  any idea ?04:51
tronixmatthew_w: :-) double check cedega's website04:51
matthew_wtronix; apparently it runs most, just some better than others.04:51
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:51
tronixmatthew_w: aye04:51
egytracktronix : is this means i have to add line "mtu 1480"04:51
matthew_wtronix; I've checked, but they're depressingly vague04:51
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tronixegytrack: yes04:51
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egytrackauto eth004:51
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sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:51
phnxgkHowdy ho everyone04:51
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sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:52
tronixegytrack: do you have iface eth0 somewhere?04:52
egytracktronix : auto eth0 then i add line "mtu 1480"04:52
B-166_ER-Xis there a way to make an app only running in sudo... not only running in sudo ?04:52
mazdaracerHas anyone setup a unibrain with firewire for a webcam? I got a card and cam, but have no success yet. Make me a beginner.04:52
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Find the executable for amsn and sudo chmod a+x /path/to/amsn04:52
tronixegytrack: no, you should have another eth0 line. something like iface eth0 ?04:52
phnxgkOk...im here to ask a few questions about my installation of Breezy.  ANybody wana give me a hand?04:52
tronixphnxgk: give it a try. if people can answer, they will. :)04:52
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
sacawenanyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully04:53
phnxgkcool thanks tronis04:53
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egytracksacawen !!! hey ..04:53
sacawenNobody here can answer my question04:53
tronixsacawen: i haven't tried. i think you've got a stuck keyboard04:53
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binarydigithaha04:53
sacawennobody?04:54
binarydigitsacawen: yea i am sure everyone will help you after you flooded the channel04:54
sacawenI would like to know the answer04:54
IdleOneno04:54
phnxgkok wheni first installed Breezy, during the second part of the installation when its installing packages, it will stop at about 83% and say that some pagages wernt installed04:54
brlancersacawen: there is a guy who knows your answer, but since you refuse to wait 5 minutes, he's still in the john04:54
phnxgkthen is comenses to boot ubuntu and i get in.04:54
brlancersacawen: perhaps you can make an appointment next time?04:54
B-166_ER-X!nopaste04:54
ubotuB-166_ER-X: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:54
B-166_ER-X!paste04:55
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text04:55
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sagarphow can i copy a cd image to a cd...somethin glike, cp image.iso /dev/cdrom0, or cat image.iso > /dev/cdrom0...would those work?04:55
phnxgkit gives me like 42 ubdates to down load and install and i do that but two of them wont install.04:55
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/652004:55
tronixsagarp: one way: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cdimage.iso then use cdrecord to burn cdimage.iso to a blank CD04:55
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phnxgkalso apps close randomly on me.  Mostly Firefox.04:55
tronixsagarp: or use readcd instead of dd. much faster and more reliable/accurate, I heard.04:56
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mazdaracerphnxgk: how are you partintioning the disk? I had to re-partition mine after I couldn' load the latest kernel.04:56
brlancerhow can I get a kernel .config file for the stock Ubuntu builds? I'm trying to build a driver module and it's looking for one04:56
tronixbrlancer: look at /boot04:56
titanium_platypuback04:56
sorush20guys dvd play freezes computer all the time everytime http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6518 help04:56
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matthew_wtronix; isn't there some way to umm .. *cough cough cough hack spew*  -- not -- pay for this?04:56
edgarinHey04:56
edgarinhello to all04:56
phnxgki have a 40 gig hard drive.  30 gigs are for windows and i had 10 non partitioned gigs04:56
matthew_wlol04:56
sagarptronix, i want to burn an iso to a blank cd...could i reverse that command?04:57
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, You need to chmod /usr/bin/amsn still.04:57
tronixmatthew_w: :-) I thought about it for a while, too. I gave up since I wasn't having much luck doing it with raw WINE04:57
phnxgki let breezy do the partitioning for me.04:57
brlancertronix: awesome, thanks--I know I've run into this before, but I (and google) drew a blank04:57
titanium_platypuokay....I'm downloading libsdl1.2-dev04:57
SEJeffbrlancer, ls /boot/config-`uname -r`04:57
titanium_platyputhink that's probably it?04:57
titanium_platypufor compiling source?04:57
matthew_wtronix; I mean... finding cedega... elsewhere?04:57
Steilis anyone else having a problem with gtkpod or amaroK copying files very slowly to their ipods?04:57
mazdaracerphnxgk: let the install auto config your 10gig04:57
matthew_wtronix; or if you get the program on mininova or something will you still need to input some kind of subscriber name etc. etc. ?04:57
tronixmatthew_w: know what you mean. didn't see anything like that, but then again, I don't have that kind of contact or super-mad search skills :)04:58
phnxgkalso when i downloaded a sencond browser that has a .ded file ending, it says it dosnt support that type of archive when i try to install it.04:58
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phnxgki did let the install auto config my 10gig04:58
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chun_hi all04:58
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phnxgk.deb*04:58
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chun_erm, i just installed ubuntu and for some reason, the network didn't start at boot, any idea?04:59
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matthew_wtronix; I'll give it a try.04:59
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chun_i mean, i can get connected by doing sudo dhclient eth004:59
philchow can I give a newly created user the opportunity to run sudo -s?04:59
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tronixsagarp: you'd use cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever speed=... opts=burnfree foo.iso  or something like that04:59
sorush20how do I find out my cpu status?04:59
blondiedefine status04:59
tronixsagarp: or use a GUI program to do the burning. I don't know what's good. I only use a wrapper script around cdrecord04:59
blondiecat /proc/cpu_info ?05:00
viatorhello05:00
viatori found the answer05:00
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viatorfor copying the website05:00
FX|GamerHello05:00
molineroHello ubuntu users!05:00
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viatorapt-get install httrack :)05:00
mazdaracerphnxgk: don't know if I can offer much beyond that. Sorry. I have a good install on my latest company laptop that's shared with windoze.05:00
viator:p05:00
phnxgkhello molinero05:00
molineroHello FX|Gamer05:00
garryFor info on having ID games, serious sam and other including unreal, without having to use wine or cedega, there are patches to make them work. see this link for instructions. http://liflg.org/?catid=605:00
phnxgkhmm....05:00
molineroHello phnxgk greetings from Mexico :D05:00
tronixphilc: hmm... not sure I follow? just add an entry to sudoers with visudo or just update that file with a script05:00
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B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  i think something is eluding me... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/652105:01
michaelis thier any wiki page to teach me how to install tarballs and deb files?05:01
phnxgkhmm05:01
sammy_any ppc users?05:01
chun_i am also looking for the command(gnome-whatever) to lauch the gui for setting up network, anyone knows?05:01
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chun_i have tried almost every thing that starts with gnome-xxxxxx05:01
tonyyarussochun_, network-admin05:01
tronixbienvenido, molinero :)05:02
sagarptronix would that work for a bootable disk image too?05:02
philctronix: my user, reformist, can do  sudo -s, but cat /etc/sudoers  | grep -i reformist05:02
philc produces no output. I "su'd" to the new user, ran sudo -s, and even with the correct password the command fails05:02
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, I'm loading the screenshot, on dialup, with you in a minute.05:02
chun_tonyyarusso: ha, cheers05:02
B-166_ER-Xok np.05:02
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phnxgkok, well how about this prob.  i downloaded opera and got the breezy badger version that has .deb at the end of the file name.  And when i try to install it.... it says that that archive type is unsuported.  any ideas why this is happening?05:02
sorush20blondie: I keep getting error no such file or dir after cat /proc/cpu_info05:02
garrySystem/administration/network05:02
tronixphilc: su - reformist then do 'sudo -l' to see what commands sudo thinks the user is authorized05:02
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IdleOnesammy_:  yes05:02
molinerotronix, de que pais eres05:02
tonyyarussophnxgk, How did you try to install?05:02
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SEJeffchun_, gksudo network-admin05:03
blondiesorush20: oh, /proc/cpuinfo05:03
philctronix: (ALL) ALL. sudo -l with the new user asks for a password05:03
Madpilot!tell phnxgk about opera05:03
sammy_idleone: what machine you running?05:03
IdleOneImac G305:03
phnxgkdouble click05:03
lorenzohi, i accidentaly deleted one of my desktop panels, how do i get it back, thanx?05:03
tronixphilc: that's normal (pw); sudo caches it for 5 mins05:03
tronixphilc: once pw is entered, should be able to get a shell05:03
sammy_any problems getting it to come out of sleep mode?05:03
SEJeffchun_, Here is how I found out... Use the menu editor to edit System --> Administration --> Networking and looked at the properties. That was it05:03
philctronix: but entering the correct password fails05:03
tronixphilc: ah! hmmmm.05:03
IdleOneyou running OSX?05:03
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phnxgkok nob question.  how do i tell someone?05:03
tronixphilc: pam issue/setup re: sudo?05:03
phnxgknoob*05:04
sammy_yes...05:04
Madpilotlorenzo: click on your surviving panel, choose Add To Panel05:04
IdleOneyup05:04
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, What's the output for ls -l /usr/bin/amsn?05:04
Madpilotlorenzo: right-click, that is05:04
SEJeff!tell phnxgk about javadebs05:04
garryt phnxgk use /say name message05:04
chun_mmm, network-admin looked ok, i don't know why dhclient didn't start the network at boot:/05:04
IdleOnesammy_:  I usualy have to shut it down and reboot05:04
phnxgkgarry thanks05:04
SEJeffphnxgk, Is what what you meant?05:04
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garryphnxgk np05:04
Madpilotlorenzo: ack... click on New Panel05:04
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philctronix: dunno anything about pam. Maybe it's because I'm switching to the new user via sudo -s -> su, instead of just logging in as that user (I'm doing it this way because I don't know the user's pw)05:05
B-166_ER-Xlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 2006-01-02 22:36 /usr/bin/amsn -> /usr/share/amsn/amsn05:05
tronixphilc: also, any of the log files in /var/log mention anything re: sudo auth messages?05:05
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,05:05
tronix(failures and stuff)05:05
sammy_idleOne: thanks... not what i wnated to hear... but at least it's working right05:05
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lorenzoi did that but everytime i minimise a panel it doesn't show in the new panel, donno if u know what i mean05:05
chun_SEJeff: yeah, i tried that, but i didn't see the properties options, its weird...05:05
phnxgkSEJeff i was just trying to get a sencond browser because Firefox kept dieing on me.  and opera wont install it says unsaported file archive.05:05
SEJeffchun_, I use dapper, so it is a different version of the menu editor05:05
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Try the chmod on /usr/share/amsn/amsn too.05:05
tronixphilc: one way to test quick is to create a test user and experiment with that05:05
IdleOnesammy_:  not sure if that means its working right bt thats how it works05:05
chun_SEJeff: i see05:06
SEJeffphnxgk, Use epiphany05:06
Madpilotphnxgk: .deb files should be easy to install, and Opera does run on Ubuntu... - see the msg the bot sent you05:06
phnxgktonyyarusso i double ckicked on the package on my desktop05:06
tonyyarussophnxgk, Opera is even available with apt, from their own repo.05:06
sammy_u05:06
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B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  doenst change anything :\05:06
chun_is there a script in /etc/init.d that used to start a specific ethX?05:06
sammy_IdleOne: jwanted to make sure i didn't have a special problem...05:07
SEJeffchun_, No /etc/init.d/networking is the only script05:07
tonyyarussophnxgk, Ah.  Don't think that works yet.  Try sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/youroperapackage.deb05:07
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SEJeffchun_, use sudo ifup eth0 or sudo ifdown eth0. That is probably what you want to do05:07
IdleOnesammy_:  I think it's just one of them bugs that you will have to live with05:07
Madpilotphnxgk: you can't install debs just by double-clicking on them - yet, anyway05:07
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phnxgkMadpilot ok05:07
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, So all of the files involved are executable by all, and it still thinks you lack permission?  What's ls -l on the one in share say?05:07
phnxgktonyyarusso ok let me try that.05:07
Madpilotphnxgk: the wiki page the bot sent you has all the instructions you'll need05:08
SEJeffphnxgk, doubleclicking the package will work in the next version of ubuntu called dapper drake thanks to some software called gdebi05:08
chun_SEJeff: yes, but i would like to have ifup eth0 start at boot, so i don't have to type everytime for reboot05:08
sambaseekerDoes anybody know how can I chack that my network card is set to "100 Full duplex mode"??05:08
chun_SEJeff: i mean, automatically05:08
tonyyarussoSEJeff, Definitely looking forward to trying that.05:08
phnxgkSEJeff ok05:08
titanium_platyputhat seems to have done it.  Thanks very much 8-)05:08
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  -rwxr-x--x  1 root root 9911 2006-01-02 22:36 /usr/share/amsn/amsn05:08
philctronix: good idea. The logs don't show anything helpful about the sudo errors (just failed password attempt). I created a new user, and sudo -s (after a successful password entry) fails with "phil is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.05:08
philc"05:08
SEJeffchun_, Make a script in /etc/rc2.d/ named something like S99eth005:08
tonyyarussoAnyone running Dapper tried what SEJeff said?05:08
philctronix: so I think I can stick him in /etc/sudoers, but it's weird that my other main user (reformist) isn't in there05:08
tronixphilc: reformist gets a shell, but phil doesn't, and neither is explicitly listed?05:09
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Hmm, add a+r to that, not sure if that'll help.05:09
tronixphilc: (or did I misread something?)05:09
chun_SEJeff: ok, let me take a look, thx05:09
philctronix: that's right. I made phil with "adduser"05:09
SEJefftonyyarusso, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-November/013048.html and http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/63596921/05:09
B-166_ER-Xa+r ??05:09
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tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, chmod again, just replace x with r.05:10
B-166_ER-Xok05:10
SEJefftonyyarusso, Look at the screenshots. Yes, it works perfectly and will fetch dependencies from apt if they are available05:10
tronixphilc: and phil is also in same group and similar setup as reformist? hmm.05:10
flodineanyone running sharpmusic program?05:10
axisysanyone knows what key to press to get out of standby mode on laptop05:10
tonyyarussoSEJeff, Sweet!05:10
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axisysbtw, happy new year to all05:10
tonyyarussoSEJeff, That would be one of the big things my Windows friends will ask about.05:10
tonyyarussoaxisys, On mine it's Fn.05:11
philctronix: no, I think you've hit on to it. reformist is the only one in the "adm" and "admin" groups05:11
chun_SEJeff: erm, i am not very good writing scripts....05:11
djm62axisys: I close and open the lid05:11
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B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  seems working non-sudo now :) thx, i'll be at least able to link a shortcut now05:11
damnhilwhat's the difference between edubuntu and ubuntu?05:11
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  forget last line05:11
tronixphilc: ahhh-ha :)05:11
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tonyyarussoflodine, Not at the moment, but I have done so.  Spelled differently though, SharpMusique.05:11
axisysthnx for the tips,, btw I am using hp nc622005:11
chun_SEJeff: or i can just stick ifup eth0 as the script?05:11
philctronix: yep, that did it. Brilliant work, thanks for all the help =)05:11
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Good to hear.05:11
SEJeffchun_, Make the first line #!/bin/bash, that is the command interpreter. Make the second line ifup eth0 (or eth1 or whatever). Then run chmod +x S99eth005:11
tronixphilc: welcome -- my pleasure05:12
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B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  erase last line, replace with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/652205:12
chun_SEJeff: ok kewl, thx again05:12
djm62axisys: I'm on hp...use the lid05:12
SEJeffchun_, copy and paste this: http://pastebin.com/48821305:12
axisysdjm62: thnx05:12
SEJeffnp05:12
djm62axisys: did you buy one with ubuntu installed/supported?05:13
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__Dwaynedamnhil--"Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Edubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to schools, through its customised school environment.05:13
henryhello all05:13
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, locate ctthemes.tcl05:13
henrycan someone tell me how to run an SH build?05:13
FX|GamerHey I have a question. How come when I try to change the icons say like XChat the one I want to use is greyed out?05:13
axisysdjm62: nawp05:13
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, You must've installed this with sudo or as root, right?05:13
phnxgktonyyarusso ok when i type that in it askes for my password and i enter it, then it says dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 8602 package `gnome-games':05:14
phnxgk `Replaces' field, invalid package name `05:14
B-166_ER-Xlooks like it..05:14
axisysdjm62: It came with xp and i formatted and installed breeze05:14
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djm62axisys: I got some mail from hp offering business laptops with ubuntu in the box, but i did the same as you05:15
tonyyarussophnxgk, For an Opera package??05:15
tonyyarussophnxgk, Hmm.  Have you already tried getting this through apt?05:15
henryhow do you run a SlackBuild?05:15
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  i've located ctthemes.tcl,  i changed the permissions... but its still not working.05:15
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B-166_ER-Xsame error05:15
axisysi got my laptop through company, so they all get with xp.. i had to get special approval from IT and m director to put linux05:16
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, There might be more of them you have to do that to.  You could try recursively changing the owner of the directory.05:16
sambaseekerhow to start ethtool?05:16
djm62axisys: sweet deal05:16
axisysdjm62: yeap :-)05:16
tonyyarussophnxgk, (My apt line is deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ unstable non-free05:16
tonyyarusso)05:16
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Coagwell hello05:17
phnxgktonyyarusso no, i did do the whole update thing, how ever two apps faile dto install after the update  the 2 apps are gnome-games and gmone-games-data05:17
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  didnt change .05:17
B-166_ER-Xarr05:17
Madpilottonyyarusso: does that opera repo line install the v9beta Opera, or the stable 8.51?05:18
axisysi have a centrino intel chip with a led in the front for wireless.. so i press the button for wireless the led should lit with blue light... but it does not05:18
tonyyarussophnxgk, You mean apt-get update to update your sources list, or something else?05:18
B-166_ER-Xseeems like it would be simpler to uninstall and recompile not in sudo05:18
axisysnot much luck with wireless yet. i must say i did not try to make that work either05:18
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GregAschehow do I update my dns?05:18
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tonyyarussoMadpilot, apt-cache policy says Installed: 8.51-20051114.6.  I would assume for stable you would change 'unstable' in the line to 'stable'.05:19
phnxgktonyarusso im sorry in still new.  But after i installed Breezy and loged on for the first time, i clicked on the buble that said i had updats.  the little read circle with a slash in it up next to the little speaker in the upper right hand corner05:19
tonyyarussoMadpilot, Wait.05:19
tonyyarussoMadpilot, Turns out I overrode that line with the PLF one.05:20
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  so... i do i uninstall something like this ??05:20
tonyyarussoMadpilot, How can I check other versions of a package from multiple sources?05:20
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tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, sudo apt-get remove amsn05:20
Madpilottonyyarusso: no idea, I keep my sources.list as simple as possible...05:20
drapelykwhat file do I need to edit to set a static ip address? anyone?05:21
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  it wasnt a package..05:21
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axisyscat /etc/hostname.eth005:21
B-166_ER-X0.95 does not exist yet05:21
B-166_ER-Xas a package05:21
axisysdrapelyk: /etc/hostname.hme005:21
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Right.05:21
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tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Not sure.05:22
SEJeffaxisys, Isn't hmexx a Solaris thing?05:22
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tonyyarussoChannel: How do you uninstall something installed from source?05:22
B-166_ER-Xhavent found it for ubuntu nyway...thats why  i had to compile it05:22
drapelykaxisys: returns nothing05:22
axisysSEJeff: oops u r right.. tahts what happen when u juggle between two OS05:22
SEJefftonyyarusso, go back into the uncompressed source directory and run "make uninstall"05:22
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B-166_ER-Xok05:23
SEJeffaxisys, Now try juggling HP-UX, Solaris, Suse, and debian. Welcome to my job :)05:23
tonyyarussoI must say, these gdebi screenshots are looking pretty cool.05:23
phnxgkBAH there goes the whole random app closing on me agien05:23
axisysSEJeff: me too.. i have osx and ubuntu at home and all BSDs and Solaris at work05:23
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SEJefftonyyarusso, I must say, gdebi is very sweet. It is much better than the fedora doubleclick installer05:23
drapelykquestion still remains: what file do I need to edit to set a static ip on eth0?05:23
SEJeffaxisys, fun fun05:23
phnxgkthis whole installing Breezy has been very difficult for me.05:23
axisysSEJeff: no suse or hp-ux though05:23
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B-166_ER-XSEjeff , make: *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible  uninstall . Arrt.05:24
tonyyarussodrapelyk, Is that an option in ifconfig?05:24
SEJeffaxisys, Yes well I work for a novell shop. suse plays much better with eDir than redhat unfortunately05:24
SEJeffB-166_ER-X, I don't speak french05:25
axisysSEJeff: understood05:25
drapelyktonyyarusso, i'm using command line05:25
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Try putting LANG=en_US before your commands05:25
drapelyktonyyarusso, iif that applies05:25
tonyyarussodrapelyk, ifconfig is command line.05:25
B-166_ER-Xbasically 'no rule to build the target'  stopping05:25
SEJeffdrapelyk, /etc/network/interfaces05:25
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yonkeltronis there an rss feed of ubuntu security notices?05:26
SEJeffdrapelyk, try man interfaces to get an idea of how to set up a static ip. /etc/network/interfaces is a debian specific thing I believe05:26
phnxgkok well lets try this agine i guess.  I start from my first problem.  When i install breezy it tells me at the very end that some packages wernt installed.  it happend on a burnt ISO from the web site and a distro disk from Linux Format Magazine.05:26
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B-166_ER-Xmake: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.       , in fact.05:26
drapelykheh, I didn't see this before05:27
tonyyarussoWould anyone be willing to look at my gdm script to try to determine why it breaks my console switching?05:27
drapelykSEJeff, thanks!05:27
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SEJeffdrapelyk, np05:27
IdleOne phnxgk : seems you might have a corupted discs05:27
phnxgkIdleOne it happened twice.  with 2 different discs.05:28
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aaron_hello...i just installed my first linux distro, and was wondering if someone could point to a website where I can get my bearings straigt?05:28
B-166_ER-Xi guess juste deleting the whole folder wouldnt be okay eh :\05:28
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aaron_i don't even know how to install apps! haha05:28
sambaseekerhow to start aplication from command line?05:28
IdleOnephnxgk:  sorry i dont know what else it could be... my install went without a hitch05:29
henrycan anyone tell me how to install a tgz?05:29
phnxgkIdleOne Hmm...05:29
IdleOneaaron_:  what distro? try theyre website05:29
tonyyarussoaaron_, Check out things like the wiki and forums from ubuntulinux.org, the tutorials on linux.org, wander Google, and ask in here.05:29
aaron_yeah i've poked around a little, but it hasn't made any sense (it's ubuntu 5.10)05:29
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IdleOnethen your in the right place05:30
phnxgkIdleOne Ok how bout this.  When i try to run firefox, it will run for about 2 min then it will just randomly close on me.  cancleing any downloads in progress.  is this a known isuue?05:30
henrycan someone tell me how to install a slackware app?05:30
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tonyyarussoaaron_, I'd never seen, much less used, Linux until last August, and I know I'm not the only one, so don't feel bad about being new to it all.05:30
steve_laptopok who is using a IPOD with linux?05:30
phreak97uhh05:30
tonyyarussophnxgk, 1.07 or 1.5?05:31
aaron_thanks...05:31
phreak97my taskbar has become badly positioned boxes on the desktop05:31
SEJeffhenry, If you don't know, it is going to be a nightmare as you will have to manually do dependency installation etc. Try installing it from synaptic or using apt-get05:31
aaron_it's wierd thinking you know how to use a computer, then being completely lost at sea05:31
IdleOnephnxgk:  have you added the universe and multiverse repositories?05:31
phreak97im gonna restart05:31
Harimwakairianother quick terminal question if anyone's got a sec:05:31
phnxgkIdleOne its what ever is installed by default with Breezy.05:31
HarimwakairiI tried to exit a terminal session and it said I had stopped jobs05:31
Harimwakairips showed two05:31
Harimwakairiwhat number out of the ps report do I pass to the kill command to stop them?05:32
phnxgkIdleOne now that just confussed the hell out of me.  *cries*  im such a noob.  ><05:32
Harimwakairior is there a better way?05:32
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B-166_ER-Xanyone knows how to delete a file installed from source ...and 'make uninstall' not working?05:32
IdleOnephnxgk:  go to System/synaptic manager/ repository05:32
B-166_ER-Xfile/folder05:32
IdleOnecheck them all off and reload05:32
SEJeff!w32codecs05:32
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install05:32
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aaron_thanks for the help, i'll go do some reading05:32
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chun_cool, my network worx!05:33
tonyyarusso!tell phnxgk about universe and multiverse05:33
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chun_moving on to the next question;)05:33
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chun_anyone here uses chinese input?05:33
tonyyarusso!tell phnxgk about universe05:33
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chun_i got chinese input working fine, but it does not seem to work so well with openoffice:/05:34
phnxgkIdleOne ok i get this error Unable to get exclusive lock05:34
phnxgkThis usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.05:34
IdleOnephn after doing what?05:34
IdleOnephnxgk:05:34
Madpilotphnxgk: that's a pretty well-explained error msg - do you have Synaptic running?05:35
phnxgkIdleOne and i dont have anything running that i know off. ><    After going to wher eyou told me to05:35
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IdleOneseems his irc client closes randomly also05:36
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MickMcMackDed'd.05:37
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IdleOnephnxgk:  welcome back05:37
phnxgkok 4 times irc has closed randomly on me since i have been in here05:37
SEJeffphnxgk,  Works fine for me. I stay in here for days at a time05:38
phnxgkIdleOne Thanks05:38
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phnxgkFirefox is doing the same thing to me.05:38
IdleOne!tell phnxgk  about universe05:38
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PuMpErNiCkLeo_O05:39
IdleOneO_o05:39
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phnxgkok when ever i try to go to synaptic package manager i get the error.....05:41
phnxgkoh..... wow...05:41
phnxgkit worked for me this time05:41
tonyyarussoHow do I get the list of all the factoids ubotu knows?05:41
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IdleOne!tell tonyyarusso  about everything lmao05:42
IdleOnehehe05:42
IdleOnesorry couldnt help myself05:42
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IdleOnei wont abuse the bot anymore05:42
tonyyarussoIdleOne, As amusing as that was, it didn't work though.05:42
IdleOne:|05:42
IdleOneyeah I saw05:43
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tonyyarussoSomeone did it earlier, with something-or-other list I think05:43
IdleOnewho hosts the bot?05:43
IdleOnethey must have a list05:43
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tonyyarussoIdleOne, cafuego (sp?) manages it I think.05:44
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cyphasei just freed up 26GB of hard drive space :P05:45
IdleOnetonyyarusso:  really dont know where you could get that list but it must exist05:45
HendikinsIs that all?05:45
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HendikinsMy spring cleaning record is about 6005:45
cyphasei tr and clean up more often05:45
cyphase:)05:45
cyphasetry*05:45
tonyyarussoIdleOne, The Wiki page for the bot has common ones, but I'm just curious what all is in there?05:46
tonyyarussoSeveas, do you know?05:46
SEJeffHendikins, I just clean out my bittorrent seeds folder and that will free up at *least* 60GB05:46
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HendikinsI don't torrent.05:46
HendikinsDial-up + bittorrent don't work well together05:46
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SEJefftrue true05:47
garryI once did a gzip on / directory to backup my system. I didn't know that gzip deletes the files after, so gzipping, and recursing the directory, sure freed up a LOT of space.05:47
IdleOnedidnt think anybody still used dialup05:47
varsendaggerhey is there a good noobie wiki ?  just for basic stuff how to mount etcetera05:47
tonyyarussoIdleOne, I do when I'm at home.05:47
HendikinsSome people don't have a choice in the matter.05:47
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Hendikins<insert regulation swearing and cursing at Telstra here>05:47
HCIREanyone with quake 3 knowledge in here?05:47
IdleOneHendikins:  didnt mean to offend05:48
phnxgk*cry*  why is it closing on me so much... ><05:48
varsendaggerNE 105:48
HendikinsIdleOne: I've got a much thicker skin than that...05:48
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notOnyxhow large is an ubuntu install? I currently run XP on my thinkpad and am considering a dual boot. Where can I read a how too on such an undertaking05:48
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phnxgkok am i supposed to check the main restricted universe multiverse entries?05:49
garryYou know you are going to get a lot of free cleanup when your daughter says "What does formatting C: Mean?" The firefox default page, has some nice info on ubuntu.05:49
tonyyarussonotOnyx, 2-3G is about standard for a minimal desktop setup.  I have dual XP-Ubuntu on a T43, btw.05:49
RON2255Hello guys05:49
PuMpErNiCkLephnxgk: If you want non-main stuff like mplayer...05:49
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HendikinsIdleOne: anyone who goes in to #debian to pick a fight needs a /really/ thick skin ;-)05:49
IdleOnephnxgk:  best thing I could tell you is order install discs from ubuntu website...thats what i did waitied about 4 weeks but they work fine05:49
SEJeffnotOnyx, Thanks to IBM, ubuntu works well on a thinkpad. The install will resize your windows partiton without breaking things05:49
tonyyarusso!tell notOnyx about dualboot05:49
RON2255Again I got a problem with the printer can you help why I get this massage05:50
RON2255mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/bin/samsung': Permission denied05:50
RON2255cp: `/usr/local/bin/samsung/x86_64/': specified destination directory does not exist05:50
RON2255Try `cp --help' for more information.05:50
RON2255libstdc++ v3 (gcc 2.96) not found, intstall ... tar: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: Cannot create symlink to `libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so': Permission denied05:50
RON2255tar: usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so: Cannot open: Permission denied05:50
RON2255tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors05:50
SEJeffnotOnyx, But you *HAVE* to defrag your windows drive first05:50
RON2255ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denieddone05:50
IdleOneHendikins:  I have never been05:50
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nemikhello, having some trouble getting a computer wirelessly setup with a 2wire DSL router. i tried hex and ASCII WEP key and nothing works....just won't connect05:50
phnxgkIdleone  i just might do that05:50
tonyyarussonotOnyx, Yes, do defrag.05:50
PuMpErNiCkLeRON2255: Try using sudo to run the script as root.05:50
notOnyxtony and jeff: thanks so much. You know I've been in here twice today, and both times I've gotten these perfect answers. I was playing around with this OS at work today, there's something...easy about it05:50
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notOnyxit seems like linux is turning a corner with this flavor...05:51
garryThere's a defrag with ubuntu?05:51
RON2255Pu I am new to this can you explain how?05:51
notOnyxI shall defrag tonight05:51
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HendikinsIdleOne: I had a go at them for patching Firefox up the wazoo and sending support questions upstream... because upstream basically means me. I'm hanging around in here to help with Firefox questions, because the whole atmosphere is at the opposite end of the scale to #debian.05:51
tonyyarussonotOnyx, It does seem that way.  Although I seem to be good at breaking it, but that's just me playing around with things I don't understand.05:51
tonyyarussogarry, No, it's for his Windows.05:51
PuMpErNiCkLeRON2255: How are you doing it now?05:51
Hendikinsand I may order some Ubunutu CDs when dapper goes gold05:52
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RON2255In the desktop I had download the driver05:52
garrytonyyarusso ok, thnaks.05:52
IdleOneHendikins:  why am i getting problems with retreiving my stats from pogo.com ( using firefox 1.0.7 )05:52
IdleOne?05:52
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HendikinsIdleOne: I believe we have a thread on our forum related to pogo.com problems. I've never used the site myself.05:53
tonyyarussoHendikins, Ah hah!  A FF person!  Using 1.5 here, and noticed that instead of clicking one "update" button, I had to go through my extensions list and update all of the ones that had updates available.  Am I missing something?05:53
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Hendikinstonyyarusso: I'm sort of a Firefox person. I use the suite instead, but am high up in the support tree.05:53
drapelykanyone know why .htaccess doesn't work when I configure it correctly?05:54
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IdleOneHendikins:  link to forum please05:54
tonyyarussoHendikins, Ah.  Do you know the answer to that anyway?05:54
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sambaseekerwhy I can not mount floppy drive? I got error "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"05:54
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HendikinsIdleOne: forums.mozillazine.org, just do a search for pogo.com05:54
sambaseekerI want to copy something on floppy05:54
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IdleOneHendikins: ty05:54
tonyyarussodrapelyk, Does the server hosting it support it?  (Not sure if that's your machine or through an ISP is why I ask.)05:55
HendikinsIdleOne: I could be wrong on that count, but I could swear I've seen it mentioned in Fx Support more than once05:55
drapelykit's my machine05:55
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drapelyktonyyarusso, the .htaccess and .htpasswd files disappear from view when created is that normal?05:56
Hendikinstonyyarusso: What extensions are involved? I'm not sure if using a non-UMO update source complicates things, and some extensions do.05:56
sambaseekerhow can I copy file to floppy disk?05:56
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scott__#launchpad05:56
tonyyarussodrapelyk, dot files are hidden, so yes.  Using ls with the -a switch will show them.05:56
drapelykk05:56
drapelyktonyyarusso, does apache need to be configured to use .htaccess? or is it an Ubuntu problem?05:57
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Sonderbladeis there a way to check what the latest version of a package is that ubuntu has packaged in any of its repositories?05:57
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JaZy84hey guys i have VLC and it will not play a wmv mplayer will freeze when it attempts. anyone know what will play it05:58
JaZy84?05:58
Toma--JaZy84: what codec does it use?05:59
JaZy84asf05:59
JaZy84it looks like05:59
tonyyarussoHendikins, Oy.  Ones that might change the list: Sort Extensions, Slim Extension List, Menu Editor.  Total I got 115 to play with, so listing them could be an interesting feat.05:59
Toma--JaZy84: run "file videoforyou.wmv"05:59
Hendikins115?05:59
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tonyyarussodrapelyk, I'm not really sure how it works, as I don't run servers myself.  I just know that webspace provided by some ISPs doesn't support them.06:00
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tonyyarussoHendikins, So I get bored and spend too much time browsing the addons page.06:00
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matt_whats up all06:00
drapelyktonyyarusso, thanks06:00
JaZy84ms ASF06:00
Toma--mmkay.06:01
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Hendikinstonyyarusso: I was one of the admin staff for UMO when the site launched. Internal politics forced me (and a few others) out06:01
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tonyyarussoHendikins, (What's UMO stand for?) What sort of politics?06:02
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Toma--JaZy84: looks like the asf plugin actually comes with vlc. have you installed w32codecs yet?06:02
HendikinsUpdate dot Mozilla dot Org. I won't go in to the politics, other than to say that they exist.06:03
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Coag!wine06:03
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JaZy84not directly can it be found in apt?06:03
tbwAnyone know if wine can run iTunes?06:04
tbwThat'd be nice.;)06:04
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HendikinsI know CrossOver Officce runs iTunes 4.9, but I don't use vanilla wine.06:04
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Madpilottbw: I've heard that it can, but I don't run either wine or an iTunes...06:04
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tonyyarussotbw, If not, SharpMusique can use the iTunes library.06:04
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Toma--tbw: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=134706:05
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tbwtonyyarusso, : Video aswell ?06:05
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tonyyarussotbw: Haven't tried that.06:05
tonyyarussotbw: Maybe.06:05
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JinkgunsI hate having to downgrade my kernel just because the headers for .12 aren't out yet.06:06
JaZy84how would i install this w32codec?06:06
moshewhy is mkisofs giving me problems with UTF-8?06:06
eobanb'the headers arent out yet'??06:07
eobanbwwhat?06:07
JaZy84i can find some rpms think it'll be safe to ue them06:07
tonyyarusso!tell JaZy84 about w32codecs06:07
IdleOneHendikins:  ty so much... just needed to allow pogo.com ans ea.com to install06:07
JaZy84thanks.06:07
Hendikinstonyyarusso: Some of the folks in #firefox seem to think you've got a record for extensions (-:06:07
tonyyarussoHendikins, Do I get a prize?06:08
HendikinsIdleOne: I didn't help you, you helped yourself. No need to thank me (-:06:08
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IdleOneHendikins:  you pointed me in the right direction06:08
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PuMpErNiCkLehey.... w32codecs....06:08
PuMpErNiCkLe!tell PuMpErNiCkLe about w32codecs06:08
ubuntuguyanyone tell me how to apt-get the kernel source?06:09
JinkgunsThe headers for 2.6.12 don't exist, otherwise I skipped over them. :/06:09
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henryhow do you move a file to the file system?06:10
henryin terminal06:10
eobanbwith mv06:10
henrysoo06:11
henrysudo mv file.tgz06:11
henry?06:11
henryor what?06:11
henryeobanb is that correct?06:11
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eobanbmv file.tgz /new/location/for/file.tgz06:11
tonyyarussocafuego, Is it you that manages the bot?06:11
eobanbget it?06:11
henryso if I want to move to the filesyste06:11
henryshould I put06:12
henrya /06:12
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henrysudo mv file.tgz /06:12
henry?06:12
henrylike that06:12
henryeobanb06:12
eobanbuh, sure, i dont think you want to do that though06:12
daskoganyone that uses Linux for graphics design? Alias Maya, Softimage XSI, Shake 4?06:12
henryI want to install a tgz program.06:12
eobanbhenry, you usually dont want to move files to the root level06:12
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daskogMainly Ubuntu06:13
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eobanbhenry, let's back up a minute..06:13
henrywell eobanb what do you suggest I do for installing cedega.tgz?06:13
Coagwhy am i nto being able to isntall wine06:13
Coagi added the repos06:13
CoagPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:13
Coaggot that error06:13
Coagon apt-get install wine06:13
eobanbhenry, talk to cedega support about that06:13
IdleOneHendikins:  how do i upgrade FF to 1.5 from 1.0.7?06:13
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daskogIm wondering if Ubuntu will support higher resolution and the GUI will be faster after i install the Nvidia drivers?06:14
henryeobanb...06:14
henryI don't have an account06:14
henrymy friend gave me the tgz06:14
eobanbhow do you not have an account?06:14
HendikinsIdleOne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion has information about this specifically for Ubuntu users. I'll have to review it at some point.06:14
PuMpErNiCkLeIdleOne: download it from Mozilla06:14
daskogAnyone06:14
eobanbhenry, this channel doesn't condone software piracy, i'm afraid we can't help you.06:14
daskog?06:14
henryeobanb my friend gave me the tgz06:14
PuMpErNiCkLeIdleOne: Trying to use apt right now causes issues06:14
TuxOtakuhey, why won't apt-get see the package i downloaded??06:14
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henryoh ok eobanb06:15
corherei am in need of disabling the ehci_hcd driver (usb2). i tried blacklisting it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist, but that had no effect. what other ways are there to do so?06:15
tonyyarussoIdleOne, Hendikins: I used those instructions for 1.5, only issue was getting some plugins to work, which was a matter of making symlinks.06:15
Hendikinstonyyarusso: I'm using SuSE Linux myself, so until I get my paws on a testing box or some bandwidth, it is all moot to me.06:15
ubuntuguyNDIS is hell on earth06:16
tonyyarussoTuxOtaku, apt-get is for getting packages, if you downloaded it yourself you install with dpkg -i.06:16
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usernewbiehow can i change password for user from command line?06:16
tonyyarussousernewbie, passwd username06:16
daskogCalling people with Nvidia cards!06:17
TuxOtakuohhh....still getting used to the debian way of doing things...thanx tonyyarusso06:17
eobanbdaskog, it depends06:17
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Say what? :)06:17
daskogWill Ubuntu be faster with the Nvidia drivers? How about the GUI?06:17
gabymHi... I've just install ubuntu version 5.10, and the system doesn't regconize the slave hard disk, any idea?06:17
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eobanbdaskog, well what card do you have?06:17
daskogGeforce 7800 Gtx06:17
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: :O06:17
usernewbietonyyaruso: it wont let me change..06:17
daskogAmd x206:18
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PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: hell yeah :O06:18
daskogok =)06:18
Hendikinsdaskog: If you're planning to do 3D, that's a trick question.06:18
eobanbgabym, have you tried going to, i think, System > Administration > Disks and enabling the other HDD06:18
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daskogwhat you mean?06:18
HendikinsThe only possible answer is "yes"06:18
tonyyarussousernewbie, If you're trying to change other users, run it with sudo.06:18
daskogOh06:18
jim__ !06:19
Hendikinsand asking it answers it06:19
daskogit's to early for me to understand humor =P06:19
usernewbietonyyarusso: I used: sudo passwd usename06:19
Toma--jim__: english.06:19
JinkgunsWhat is the best way to install the nvidia drivers for direct rendering.06:19
usernewbiegot back "sorry try again"06:19
usernewbieI want to change password for that used06:19
daskogok ok06:19
usernewbieuser06:19
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eobanbusernewbie, i assume you that you are replacing 'username' with the actual user name for which you want to change the password06:19
daskogIm using Suse 10 now, No disrespecting but is Ubuntu Faster/snappier than Suse 10?06:20
usernewbieeobanb: i forgot passwor so I want to change password for that user06:20
Lockehow do i open folders that were installed with wine?06:20
gabymdid so and nothing happened :(06:20
Coag:/06:20
Coagwaht is with the wine repository06:20
CoagPackage wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.06:20
tonyyarussousernewbie, First, what eobanb said.  I think what happened is you put in what you wanted to use as the new password at the wrong prompt, entering it to get into sudo before you even got to passwd.06:20
Coagi can't install wine at all06:21
jim__Locke - wine folders are under /home/<username>/.wine/06:21
Lockecoag get Automatix06:21
Hendikinsdaskog: Without being able to compare on speed, I'd say there's more to it than just raw speed. That, and if you're using an X2, the difference is probably moot anyway due to raw power.06:21
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CoagLocke: explain06:21
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henryhow do you install a cpkg file??06:21
tonyyarussousernewbie, You'll have to first enter the sudoer's (your, presumably) password, and then the new one you want to assign for the other user.06:21
Locke!tell coag about Automatix06:21
Coag(21:21:50) <ubotu:coag> locke wants you to know: I guess automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT06:22
Coagnice06:22
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Lockecoag lol06:22
JinkgunsHow do I install nvidia drivers with ubuntu?06:22
seth_k|lappyLocke, ubotu is right. DON'T use automatix06:22
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seth_k|lappyit breaks systems06:22
VitorBeltraoHow can I install KDE on ubuntu?06:22
Coagapt-get install nvidia-glx06:22
seth_k|lappyVitorBeltrao, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:22
CoagJinkguns: apt-get install nvidia-glx06:22
Lockeseth_k| lappy never had a single problem with it at all06:22
Jinkgunsthat's it?06:22
daskogHendikins: Ok, but i feel like x86-64 distroes are a little new yet. wich of Ubuntu release are best as of today: x86 or x86-64?06:22
JinkgunsNo config file to edit?06:22
CoagJinkguns: yes06:22
VitorBeltraoseth_k|lappy, it did not found...06:23
usernewbietonyyarusso: is it possible that somebody hacked my PC and changed SUDO password?06:23
VitorBeltrao:/06:23
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moshehello06:23
eobanbdaskog, if you plan on using some binary-only software, probably not x86-6406:23
Coaganyone else have help on the whole wine thing?06:23
usernewbietonyyarusso: it wont accept my old password06:23
tonyyarussousernewbie, Possible, yes.  Likely, probably not.06:23
madewokherdapt-cache says wine is in universe06:23
seth_k|lappyCoag, it's in the repos... did you not find it?06:23
madewokherdwait a second06:23
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Coagseth_k|lappy: doesn't exist06:23
tonyyarussousernewbie, Did you not log into the system?  How long ago was that?06:23
usernewbietonyyarusso: can I reset SUDO password?06:23
moshemkisofs says "Unable to make a DVD-Video image."  But it gives no other info.  How do I create a dvd-video image if mkisofs won't play nice?06:23
Hendikinsdaskog: I'm a SuSE user. Can't answer that. I'm using the x86_64 version of 9.3 though, and yeah, 64bit stuff does feel a bit new at times.06:23
madewokherdweren't you on 64-bit ?06:23
seth_k|lappyCoag, you'll need to enable universe06:24
Coagi thought i did06:24
usernewbietonyyarusso: system was on for few days06:24
seth_k|lappyCoag, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:24
Coagi know06:24
seth_k|lappyCoag, if you did, then did you run sudo apt-get update?06:24
usernewbietonyyarusso: it wont let me log-in with my old password06:24
Coagyes06:24
daskogIm on Suse 10 x86-6406:24
seth_k|lappyCoag, would you pastebin your sources.list for me?06:24
Coagseth_k|lappy: one moment06:25
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tonyyarussousernewbie, Do you have the root password set?06:25
Coagthere was a space before the line for universe, could that have been it?06:25
eobanbusernewbie, the whole point of passwords is to protect the system, so if you've forgotten the password(s) for the sudoer user(s) there really just isn't an easy solution06:25
usernewbietonyyarusso: no, I have no root account06:25
punkassuse dapper anyone else get this when trying to run network manager:06:25
punkassThe NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.06:25
tonyyarussousernewbie, Check the little things, like CapsLock.06:25
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weekanghi06:26
weekangi installed xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu breezy06:26
Coagseth_k|lappy: brb06:26
weekangjust wondering why my lock screen button doesn't work06:26
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weekangbut everything else is cool.. xfce is fast06:26
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usernewbietonyyarusso: i did check that06:26
eobanbpunkass, there are lingering issues with dapper.  the latest stable version is breezy06:26
moshehmm06:26
TuxOtakupersonally, punkass...i don't bother running bleeding-edge versions.06:26
corherei may seem a little impatient but i would like to know how to get ehci_hcd (usb2 controller) from loading at startup.06:26
TuxOtakutoo many issues06:27
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corhereclarification: prevent it from loading at startup06:27
tonyyarussousernewbie, Then you may very well be out of luck.  You really think it's more likely it was hacked than you forgot?06:27
daskogIt's probaly a shot in the dark, but how long til x86-64 distroes Mature?06:27
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eobanbdaskog, they are mature.  you're confusing the distro with the software available for the distro06:27
usernewbietonyyarusso: password was very simple... i do not even know how to change sudo password :(06:27
punkassthanks, everything else is working fine...just a couple updates ago i ran into that..just curious if anyone else had06:27
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madewokherdCoag: I don't think you can get wine on amd6406:28
daskogOk06:28
Hendikinsdaskog: I use x86_64 Linux on a daily basis to do Real Work[TM] . They're perfectly usable.06:28
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madewokherdso you'd either have to force it somehow, build it yourself, or use qemu06:28
Hendikinsmadewokherd: Crossover runs fine on x86_64.06:28
daskogProbaly iam06:28
heatxsink_hello all06:28
Coagthat would suck madewokherd06:28
Coaganyways06:28
Coagi've got to go for now :/06:28
eobanbdaskog, if you want makers of proprietary software (codecs, drivers, etc) to write 64-bit versions, you'll have to contact them and ask them; otherwise we can't do anything about it06:28
heatxsink_anyone in here know if the saa7134 kernel module irq kernel problem was fixed in the latest kernel?06:28
Hendikinsand if Crossover runs, wine is obviously capable of running on x86_6406:28
tonyyarussousernewbie, The password for sudo is the same as the password of the user created during the default install.  Sudo doesn't use a separate password, but the login one of users in the sudoers file.06:28
eobanbas far as i know, wine runs just fine on x86-64.06:29
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madewokherdbut is it in the ubuntu repositories for 64?06:29
madewokherdwait a second06:29
eobanbwine is free software, so yes, it is available for all three platforms06:29
TuxOtakuanyone know where i can find a deb for firefox 1.5?06:29
Hendikinsmadewokherd: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so I wouldn't know. I just know that wine works on x86_64.06:30
usernewbietonyyarusso: im now in logged as diferent user and can not login no more as main user06:30
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Toranhow can I install the IPTables::IPv4 perl module?06:30
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sklavlook for it on synaptic06:31
tonyyarussousernewbie, Well then, insert language not acceptable to actually type in this channel here.06:31
eobanbusernewbie, i don't get what you expect us to say; if you dont have the password for the main user, you can't do anything, and you'll have to recover with a liveCD or re-install or something like that.  sorry.06:31
daskogOk my last question! this goes out to those who do a lot of testing...How is the stability compared with Ubuntu x86-64 and Suse x86-64? reason i ask i cause i built my pc for graphics production (Xsi5, Shake etc)06:31
tonyyarussoeobanb, Can you change passwords from a Live CD?!?06:31
sklavboot into single user mode06:31
sklavyou can change the password06:31
eobanbtonyyarusso, this is what bios/bootloader passwords are for :)06:32
daskogBtw how could he loggin if he dont know the password?06:32
sklavi think you need to add --single on the boot menu by typing e on grub06:32
tonyyarussousernewbie, I've also heard of some tricks for accessing a root console, which you might be able to use if they haven't been disabled.06:32
usernewbieeobanb: how can I reset password from LiveCD?06:32
eobanbdaskog, he logged in as a different user on the system.06:32
eobanbusernewbie, i dont know, i've never had to do that06:32
ToranIt isn't in synaptic06:32
tonyyarussoeobanb, And I do have that set.  Still a little bit taken aback though.06:32
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madewokherdhttp://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/ <-- I'm not seeing anything 64-bit there06:32
eobanbtonyyarusso, well it makes sense, doesnt it?06:33
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sklavtoran if its a perl module so a seacrh for perl and scoll down the list06:33
glasseye1hey can anyone point me to a page that lists linux compatible wireless cards?06:33
tonyyarussoeobanb, Well, I suppose.06:33
Jinkgunswhich should I use, linux-headers-2.6.12.10 or linux-headers-2.6.12-386?06:33
Toransklav: It isn't in the list!06:33
ToranI did that already.06:33
sklavToran,  install cpan06:33
tonyyarussoeobanb, You'd just have to mount the actual disk into the working live session and go from there then I suppose, right?06:33
sklavand install it from there06:33
jdmpikeso what do you use to purchase songs on the internet when you run linux?06:33
ToranI tried installing it with cpan and it spat compile errors06:33
eobanbtonyyarusso, yeah, i'd imagine it involves chrooting a few times06:33
sklavnot the best way but since ur using a package manager 100% of the time but its another option06:34
madewokherdjdmpike: use a browser?06:34
usernewbietonyyarusso: can I be hacked even if im behind router and have 3 ports open on that router?06:34
ToranIPv4.xs:379: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'iptc_get_references' differ in signedness06:34
jdmpikeare there any mp3 services like napster or rhapsody06:34
madewokherdI think there's an itunes client06:34
jdmpikeI know that iTunes isn't available06:34
tonyyarussousernewbie, Try reading !grub through the part about hooking into the disk for the live session, and try it from there.06:34
eobanbjdmpike, there are very few options in terms of desktop software; you could try pymusique or websites like allofmp3 but their legality is questionable06:34
tonyyarussousernewbie, Maybe.06:34
sklavToran by default if not mistaken there are no devel packages installed so it would be hard to compile the perl modules06:34
madewokherdI'm pretty sure I had an itunes client06:34
madewokherdon linux06:34
sklavthen again im not sure compiling is required06:35
daskogAnyone got the WMP54G V4 to work with x86-64 & AMD X2? hurd somthin about SMP messing it up etc06:35
sklavbut make is06:35
eobanbmadewokherd, you're thinking of pymusique.06:35
tonyyarussojdmpike, madewokherd, SharpMusique.06:35
corhereglasseye1: this is a good comprehensive list http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List06:35
usernewbietonyyarusso: thanks man for your help, i will probably do format but i do not want to lose all data there :(06:35
sklavok guys im off06:35
jdmpikemadewokherd, I think that the iTunes clone you speak of didn't let you purchase music from applie06:35
corhereusernewbie: try this http://linuxgazette.net/107/tomar.html06:36
sklavsee u all tomorrow06:36
tonyyarussousernewbie, The mounting stuff from !grup isn't too hard, so it's worth checking whether that works.06:36
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madewokherdI see06:36
madewokherdI'm not actually signed up to itunes so I haven't tried06:36
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tonyyarussojdmpike, It makes every appearance of doing so.  It took my credit card info.  Haven't actually tested that yet though, just previewed.06:36
eobanbnice links, corhere06:36
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madewokherdI just use last.fm and allofmp306:37
usernewbiebrb06:37
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tonyyarussoCan Thunderbird store more than two e-mail addresses for a contact?06:37
madewokherdor buy actual albums, which is usually cheaper than the $.99 per song06:38
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theblueHi all.06:38
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theblueIs there a way I can have less open a random file from within a directory?06:38
daskogUbuntu it is06:38
daskogYey06:38
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theblueThey files have normal alphanumeric names, not parsable at all for content.06:38
daskogDo i need a firewall with linux?06:39
boowabout how long does it take for ubuntu cds to arrive its been a month already06:39
thebluedaskog: Yes.06:39
theblueboow: give it a few more days, remember, you got them for free.06:39
daskogdoes Ubuntu have one06:39
eobanbdaskog, depends.06:39
daskog?06:39
tonyyarussoboow, They say 4-6 weeks.06:39
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daskogwell im a home user06:39
theblueboow: And they're being shipped from the Netherlands, so be patient.06:39
intelikeyoh my, oh no, what a terrable error; ubuntu installer red screen of error.  "no network interfaces detected"   what ever shall i do ?06:39
thebluedaskog: You'd like Firestarter, then.06:39
tonyyarussoboow, Mine was a bit longer the first time.06:39
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boowi thought they were located in the us06:40
eobanbdaskog, if you're behind nat i'd say there isnt much of a reason why you'd need a software firewall too06:40
jdmpiketonyyarusso, you haven't purchased any music with this? are the tunes DRM'd06:40
intelikeywell i guess that means i can't use ubuntu....06:40
theblueboow: Nope, Canonical (Ubuntu's parent foundation) is in the Isle of Man, and the Shipit center is in the Netherlands.06:40
tonyyarussoboow, No.  The distro originated in the Isle of Man, and ShipIt comes out of the Netherlands.06:40
theblueboow: Not everything that has English is in the US.06:40
theblueJinx, tonyyarusso.06:41
daskogBut i dont understand who whants to Hack my Linux box?06:41
tonyyarussojdmpike, Really don't know, got the client recently and haven't played with it yet.06:41
holycowbah, dpkg is hung up and can't be killed06:41
thebluedaskog: Same people who want to attack your Windows box, but Linux is more secure.06:41
daskogOhh06:41
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holycowif you can't kill zombie proceses, the only thing you can do is wait for the kernel to kill theprocess it self?06:41
theblueholycow: Did you try the killall command?06:42
tonyyarussotheblue, Very true.  But don't think I'm going to actually stop talking until a mouse that looks like the President walks backwards across my left foot or anything.06:42
boowi was thinking of getting broadband so i'll probably have it installed by the time the cds arrive06:42
madewokherdzombie processes are already dead06:42
holycowyep06:42
theblueholycow: Or killing it using top?06:42
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ColonelPaniqueholycow : don't fret on no stankin' zombie process ;-)06:42
thebluetonyyarusso: Owe.06:42
holycowtop doesn't kill anything, it just lists porcesses06:42
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madewokherdif you kill the parent (or the parent checks on them), they'll go away06:42
usernewbietonyyarusso: how can I switch to main user from command line?06:42
thebluetonyyarusso: Can you just owe me a Coca Cola, then?06:42
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madewokherdbut yeah, there's probably no reason to worry about them06:42
Toma--holycow: does top say there are any zombies?06:43
holycowmadewokherd, what if it doesn't have a parent?  or rather how do you find out if it does?06:43
tonyyarussousernewbie, su theirusername06:43
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madewokherdI'm not sure of a command line way, gnome system monitor can tell you :/06:43
holycowToma--, top -i lists processes on 'hold' or whatever its called06:43
saltyhi guys06:43
jdmpiketonyyarusso, how did you install deb, I am getting circular dependancy issues with libglade, libgtk, etc06:43
holycowi didn't see a switch to show zombie status06:43
arawhat's the command to take the little red "X" symbol off from a folder?06:43
saltyhow goes it06:43
eobanbjdmpike, what are you trying to install06:43
ColonelPaniqueholycow : you cannot kill a zombie process homey06:44
madewokherdit's under status06:44
Toma--holycow: just run "top" and look at the top left06:44
holycowtop06:44
holycowbah wrong window :)06:44
Toma--in a terminal :D06:44
Toma--hehehe06:44
jdmpikeeobanb sharpmusique06:44
tonyyarussojdmpike, A standalone deb that you downloaded you mean?  If it can't to it automatically, try installing the packages it mentions and then trying again.06:44
saltywe noticed :)06:44
jdmpiketonyyarusso, the packages it needs all depend on one another, so they won't install06:44
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holycowwhere would it state status?06:44
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ColonelPaniqueholycow : uhhh under the column heading 'S" ;-)06:45
Toma--holycow: it'll say "0 zombie" hopefully up the top, at the end of the 2nd line06:45
aratonyyarusso , hi06:45
tonyyarussojdmpike, Do them all at once.06:45
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tonyyarussoara: Hello.06:45
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saltyok people. i have two webcams, one registers as v4l and the other as v4l2, both do not work06:45
aratonyyarusso, have a question06:45
saltyhas anyone had any luck with webcams?06:45
tonyyarussoara: Go ahead.06:46
ToranHow do I set iptables to automatically start on boot?06:46
holycowthere is no column 's'06:46
holycowoh there it is06:46
aratonyyarusso, what's the command to take that little red "X" symbol off from a folder?06:46
nemikhello, i'm having a problem. i shut down the computer normally, but it now won't come back into gnome. login page looks fine and i log in, but box that show nautilus and stuff loading never comes up. :(06:46
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ColonelPaniqueholycow : no column S in top?06:46
corherei am having problems with ehci_hcd loading (with hotplug?) on startup and i would like to stop that. i added it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it didnt affect it. any suggestions?06:46
jrattner1What applications would people recomend for PERSONAL finance?06:46
saltygnu money heh06:46
holycoweh dpkg is labeled R then D iteratively ... let me look that up06:46
Toma--jrattner1: gnucash06:47
jrattner1Toma--, yeh? ok06:47
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PuRoi downloaded network manager for my wireless management-during start-up it takes a while to load is there away to speed up the load process on it for my internet to be ready the moment im logging in?06:47
ToranHow do I set iptables to automatically start on boot?06:47
tonyyarussoara: Not sure.  Ask the whole channel.06:47
holycowright, uninterruptable06:48
PuMpErNiCkLeara: A red 'x' that covers the entire folder icon?06:48
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PuMpErNiCkLeara: It means you don't have read access to that folder.06:48
nemikdoes anyone know how i can fix this? it is just a blank screen with the brown wallpaper and i can move the mouse, but nothing else happens06:48
arano it's just a little one06:48
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tonyyarussoPuMpErNiCkLe, I think that was to you ^.06:49
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: I saw06:49
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PuMpErNiCkLeara: maybe it's my theme... for me that's the only one I've seen that looks like that >.<06:49
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ColonelPaniqueholycow : so it is just sleeping, not a zombie- kill it with sudo killall -9 dpkg06:50
intelikeynemik ctrl+alt+backspace  will restart X for you, although that may not fix it.06:50
PuMpErNiCkLeara: But if I'm right, it means you don't have read access to the folder.06:50
madewokherdnemik: did you try the "failsafe gnome" session?06:50
araPuMpErNiCkLe is there any command to make the permission?06:50
intelikeyara  chmod06:50
PuMpErNiCkLeara: Which means opening a terminal and doing 'sudo chown ara /path/to/folder'06:50
holycowColonelPanique, unfortunately that doesn't work :/ process is still there06:50
nemikintelikey: i tried that, did not work06:51
intelikeyownership chown  permission chmod ara06:51
nemikmadewokherd, thanks i'll try the failsafe gnome now06:51
saltyholycow you gonna have to reboot, imho.06:51
ColonelPaniqueholycow : well it may be heading to zombie land soon enough then if -9 doesn't get it06:51
intelikeynemik failsafe  or single06:51
PuMpErNiCkLeintelikey: I'm assuming it's not ara's to begin with - if it is, it'd just be chmod 600 /path06:52
holycowalrighty then ... how do i notify any and all users the machine is going down for a reboot?06:52
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ColonelPaniqueholycow : wall06:52
intelikeyalthough  you could drop to console and try to fix it from there06:52
PuMpErNiCkLeholycow: sudo reboot -n ;)06:52
holycowdanke :)06:52
PuMpErNiCkLeholycow: NO06:52
PuMpErNiCkLeholycow: I was joking!06:52
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holycowPuMpErNiCkLe, i'm aware of what y our line means :)06:52
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PuMpErNiCkLew00t06:53
nemikintelikey: i tried CTL ALT F1 and i'm in a terminal. but /etc/init.d/gdm start to load gnome does not work06:53
nemikit fails06:53
rhoshey everyone i have installed both gtk-gnutella and frostwire but neither will open after intallation can anyone give me a few tips06:53
intelikey! terminal     console06:53
ubotuintelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?06:53
PuMpErNiCkLerhos: open a terminal, type gtk-gnutella , and give us any errors that show up06:54
tonyyarussoPuMpErNiCkLe, ColonelPanique: How could you put those messages through to XOSD for those not in terminals?06:54
intelikeynemik do a 'sudo killall gdm '    and use startx so you can see any errors it spews06:54
rhosok06:54
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PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: There're programs that interract with X sessions... I've read about them somewhere...06:55
rhosgtk-gnutella: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:55
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tonyyarussoWould anyone be willing to examine my gdm script to help me figure out why it breaks console switching?06:55
daskogGona install Ubuntu Now...See you all on the other side =P06:55
intelikeypaste it tony06:55
nemikintelikey, didn't see many errors but now the cursor is an X and background is strange...still nothing going on though06:55
araintelikey, it's my filesystem folder, the folder that is connected to my second hard drive, i put it in /etc/fstab to automount it but now i don't have access to it :)!!!06:56
heatxsink_anyone in here have a saa7134 and cannot get tvtime working?06:56
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B-166_ER-Xi have some errors with amsn if someone can point me ...please ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/652706:56
tonyyarussointelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/652806:57
PuMpErNiCkLerhos: You're missing a library... open synaptic, search for libgtk, and install libgtk1.206:57
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PuMpErNiCkLerhos: and libgtk1.2-common06:57
rhosok thankyou06:57
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PuMpErNiCkLerhos: and libgtk1.2-dev06:57
intelikeynemik sounds like x is starting ok.  it is just your desktop env that is not doing what you want.  look in your home dir for .*rc  files and check which window manager or desktop is set06:57
PuMpErNiCkLerhos: and that should cover it :)06:57
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nemikintelikey: thanks i'll look at it06:57
intelikeyara ok.  lets see the tstab line06:58
JinkgunsI ask you, what the hell are kernel headers supposed to do? I thought they were for building 3rd party kernel modules without compiling a new kernel! But when I run make in the directory to create this module I get **No rule to make target 'usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/scripts/Makefile.modinst'06:58
jrattner1Is there any program, that will let me set my gnome desktop to a slideshow, SIMILARLY to KDE and its slideshow feature06:58
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jdmpiketonyyarusso, ok, so I am logged in, I can't seem to get the preview to work...06:58
tonyyarussojrattner1, You mean changing the background?06:59
JinkgunsI'm running make in /usr/src/SRanger/modules-2.6.X/ in case anyone wants to try and help.06:59
intelikeynemik  .sessionrc   .wmrc  and the like.....06:59
jrattner1tonyyarusso, yeh, but so i can use a slideshow of photos that will change every once in a while06:59
intelikeyor .Xsession06:59
tonyyarussojdmpike, Mine took a long time to load, but I'm on dialup.  You see files, and can right click, but the preview option does nothing?07:00
nemikintelikey: i'm trying a failsafe gnome now07:00
nemikok, i think it is going now07:00
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fangoriousis there a gnome notification area applet for gnome-keyring, like the kwallet-manager?07:00
tonyyarussojrattner1, I don't know if there is an existing easy way, but I do have instructions for a Gnome hack that will let you do that in a book, and if you really want I could pm those two pages to you.07:00
jrattner1tonyyarusso, yeh please07:01
tonyyarussoOkay, here we go.07:01
nemikintelikey: so what is the difference between the 'last' and 'failsafe GNOME' sessions setting in GDM? why did failsafe work?07:01
corhereis there anybody out there who can help me with my question? any suggestions, sites, anything would be helpful. my question (to repeat) is how can i prevent ehci-hcd kernel module (usb2 controller) from loading at boot-time. I have tried putting ehci_hcd in /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it did not work.07:01
jrattner1There must be an easier way07:01
ColonelPaniqueJinkguns : i think you need to install the actual kernel headers, ala: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`07:01
rhosanother quick question is there any way to convert mpg to linux and .jpg to linux07:02
madewokherdI'm actually not sure what failsafe does07:02
intelikeylast was not failsafe but next time last will be failsafe.   last is the last session you started.07:02
madewokherdI thought it just loaded a terminal :/07:02
intelikeynemik ^07:02
PuMpErNiCkLerhos: They should work perfectly well under linux07:02
TTiluscorhere: dunno if bl doesnt help07:02
fangoriousrhos: that doesn't make sense, what does convert mpg to linux mean?07:02
jrattner1thanx tonyyarusso07:02
rhosit says invalid fiel format but it may just be the disk im using is damaged07:02
TTiluscorhere: you could try to lsmod and check what uses ehci_hcd and try to blacklist that one too07:03
PuMpErNiCkLerhos: o_O07:03
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TTiluscorhere: dunno if it works though07:03
rhosthank you and have a good night all07:03
tonyyarussorhos, Oh, they're plenty valid.  I use both frequently.07:03
corhereTTilus: that would be usbcore07:03
PuMpErNiCkLeg'night rhos07:03
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holycowheh, the flash plugin just asked me for permmission to allow a flash dealy on a site to access my webcam07:03
holycow*sigh*07:03
intelikeytonyyarusso i'm like you.  if it is in that file i fail to see it.07:04
holycowflash is the evil07:04
PuMpErNiCkLeflash is best associated with flashblock :)07:04
nemikthanks intelikey, i think it should be ok now!07:04
TTiluscorhere: umm, doesnt look like one to be blacklisted...  :(07:04
B-166_ER-XSeveas, I do have a problem that seem unsolvable to me, now.  I compiled amsn 0.95 but it had a problem (only run with sudo) so i purge'd it, and reinstalled 0.94 but now i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527 any idea or direction ?07:04
ColonelPaniquedo you guys smell that?07:04
tonyyarussointelikey, Shoot.  I can gdm stop and use startx with console switching just fine, so I figured that must be it.07:04
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fangorioushow do i view access to my gnome-keyring?07:05
henryHow do I run cpkg files?07:05
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corhereTTilus: i figured that. maybe commenting out all (both) references to ehci in the /etc/hotplug/usb.rc file?07:06
jdmpiketonyyarusso, yeah, the preview thing doesn't work...07:06
henryhow do I run cpkg files?07:06
holycowthanks for you help guys, had to reboot :/07:06
araintelikey: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/652907:06
corhereTTilus: but the reference does a maybe_modprobe (func in the file that checks the blacklist first before modprobing)07:07
TTiluscorhere: propably, havent ever tried that (blacklisting has worked)07:07
intelikeyunless it is an error with start-stop-daemon tonyyarusso then i see nothing in that script that would normally cause such....   but have you tried loading the kernel with vga=0x0f05      it may be a framebuffering error.07:07
tonyyarussojdmpike, Hrm.  Not sure why.07:07
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intelikeylooking ara07:07
jdmpiketonyyarusso, there is also no progress bar - that would be a nice feature...07:07
tonyyarussointelikey, No, I haven't.07:07
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tonyyarussointelikey, It actually worked before, and I broke it, but was unable to determine how.07:08
corhereTTilus: i think i found the problem: modprobe treats - and _ the same, but the maybe_modprobe function in usb.rc doesn't07:08
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TTiluscorhere: have you checked logs to see if theres any traces of blacklisting working or not working07:08
henryCAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO EXTRACT CPKG files via a terminal07:08
corhereTTilis: i think i found my own answer07:08
intelikeytonyyarusso :)    backups ?07:08
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intelikeyara this line  '/dev/hdb1 /home/ara/mymedia ntfs' ?07:08
TTilushenry: what are "cpkg" files?  (you hurt my ears, btw)07:08
fangorioushenry: perhaps noboy here knows what a cpkg file is. where did you get it?07:08
araintelikey yesw07:09
arayes07:09
rhosim back again sorry lol im trying to change my screen resolution but it only has one setting 640x480 could anyone tell me how to set it to 800x600 or better07:09
intelikeyara try adding  umask=22207:09
TTiluscorhere: goodness, that sounds like bug07:09
tonyyarussointelikey, Of what?  I don't have any idea what changed or when, so I've got nothing that I know of useful.07:09
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corhereTTilus if i knew more with batch-scripting, i would submit a patch07:09
araintelikey, no07:10
corherei meant bash scripting07:10
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henryfangorious its from wine07:10
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intelikeyara after you add the  umask   then do a 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /home/ara/mymedia '07:10
araintelikey, when i mount it manually i put umask=1000 to make it work , but that even didn't work here07:10
henryhow do I run a manifest?07:10
fangorioushenry: do you mean you downloaded a cpkg file from the wine website?07:11
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corherehenry: a google search brings up that a cpkg is a "coolpacker" install package07:11
henrycorhere how would I run that?07:11
nemikthanks intelikey and others for your help!07:11
nemikgoodnight guys!07:11
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corherehenry you would set the executable flag on it (chmod u+x file) and run it (./file)07:12
araintelikey, nothing happened07:12
intelikeyah tonyyarusso i still sujest framebuffering as the cause.    when you said "you broke it" i thoungt you meant the gdm script it's self.07:12
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tonyyarussointelikey, Well, I really don't know what I did, just that one day I could switch consoles with gdm running.07:13
JinkgunsWhere do I get the ./configure in /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh ? What package is it?07:13
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henryhow do you run manifests?07:13
fangorioushenry: a manifest being a listing of the contents of something (like your cpkg file)?07:14
TTilushenry: have you checked if the cpkg'd software could be found from ubuntu repos or maybe as deb from elsewhere?07:14
michaelhow do i install .deb, .tar.gz, and .tgz files?07:14
intelikeytonyyarusso i think i have had this happen when X was using fb to access the display,  booting with vga=0   or  vga=0x0f05  will tell you if that is it or not.07:14
XiCillinanybody do ham radio stuff?07:14
corheremichael: for deb files dpkg -i debfile07:14
michaelfor .tgz?07:15
henryfangorious it says it has a link to a tgz file07:15
fangoriousmichael: tar -xvzf file.tgz07:15
tonyyarussointelikey, I'll try that next time I boot.  If it is, what's the fix?07:15
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TTilusmichael: first check if its available as deb, maybe from ubuntu repo07:15
michaelty07:15
corheremichael: you could also open it in archive manager in GNOME07:15
PhiniteI have an ntfs xp box.  I need to repartition the drive to a smaller size without blowing away the system.  I've booted to a live ubuntu (5.04) but can't find a partitioning tool on the disk itself.  can someone help with this please07:15
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intelikeymichael  'tar -xzvf file.tgz  ;cd file ;ls '  and read everything in the files in all caps.07:16
TTilusmichael: to continue fangorious, then cd pkg; make; make install07:16
michaelthat it?07:16
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TTilusmichael: what did you expect?07:16
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VitorBeltraoHow can I unstall Ubuntu and grumb?07:17
fangorioushenry: you're being really vague. you ran some application in wine, which produced a cpkg file, and now you have a manifest which says it has a link to a tgz file. is that right?07:17
michaelI figured it would be confusing07:17
TTilusmichael: furious copy-parties, tap-dancing and quiz-games?07:17
intelikeyTTilus what about a ./configure   or even  a  ./userinstall.sh   or the many helper scripts that coder add ?07:17
fangoriousTTilus: I just assumed a tgz would be more like a slackware binary archive, you just untar it where you want to install it07:17
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TTilusmichael: after extracting the package and reading info you _could_ very well be confused  :)07:18
VitorBeltraoHow can I uninstall Ubuntu and grumb?07:18
TTilusintelikey: mmm, i stand corrected07:18
michaelwell, i'm going for cedega07:18
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  i'm about to give up and have to format...for a aMSN error (well, i still HAVE to make it work)   i'm not trying to just make work my 0.94 version...buti get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527   ..07:18
fangoriousmichael: i suggest either searching in synaptic or 'apt-cache search' for relevant keywords to see if a package exists in the repositories07:18
aranalright someone help me get this installed. i can't boot from the CD but i could boot from floppy given the right floppy07:19
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michaelalready looked, i was going to try crossover office, but the cost for cedega is better, and better for games - mostly what i want07:19
TTilusVitorBeltrao: "uninstall"?07:19
VitorBeltraoyes07:19
intelikeyfangorious i concour, michael also be sure you have universe and multiverse repos enabled.07:20
liableVitorBeltrao: delete the partition and run fixmbr from windows disk07:20
TTilusVitorBeltrao: like what are you going to do?07:20
intelikey!repos07:20
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource07:20
fangoriousmichael: and cedega doesn't come with installation instructions?07:20
odatgnome rocks!07:20
TTilusVitorBeltrao: install another os?07:20
aranplease, someone help aran07:20
michaeli didn't look, i want to learn how to install every other file i come across07:20
VitorBeltraoTTilus, well i delete the partition but i cant not enter in windows after...07:20
fangoriousVitorBeltrao: installing ubuntu would be more like formatting the partition it's installed on07:21
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PuMpErNiCkLearan: If you search online, you can find floppy disk images that will let you do a network install.07:21
aranaran seeks attention.07:21
fangoriousVitorBeltrao: assuming windows 2k or xp, boot off the windows install cd, go into the repair console, and run 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'07:21
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TTilusVitorBeltrao: see liable's help07:21
aranyeah but i don't have a server to do a network install from07:21
B-166_ER-X!amsnnotworkingatallandimabouttoformatthispc07:22
ubotuB-166_ER-X: Not a clue07:22
intelikeyaran we know that.  but the 'non-cdrom' installs are slim in ub07:22
VitorBeltraooops07:22
aranideally there'd be a bootloader with a CDROM driver, but i couldn't find one07:22
VitorBeltraosorry07:22
B-166_ER-Xguessed so07:22
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TTilusaran: you can start install from floppy and give cd as package repo07:22
VitorBeltraoTTilus, ok thanks07:22
PuMpErNiCkLearan: If you have highspeed (dsl or cable or something) you can do an install from the official servers.07:22
gzedit boot.ini07:22
fangoriousaran, you don't need your own server, just a net connection07:22
VitorBeltraofangorious, thanks...07:22
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PuMpErNiCkLearan: That's how I installed a couple BSD distros.07:23
aranso it doesn't help me any to have it downloaded and burned...07:23
nurfehttp://rapidshare.de/files/10296963/Screenshot.png.html /w xfwm4 :)07:23
PuMpErNiCkLearan: Possibly it does, this is the solution I'm most familiar with. :)07:23
fangoriousaran, there should be a floppy image on the cd that you can use07:23
intelikeyfangorious have you looked ?07:23
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PuMpErNiCkLearan: What fangorious said. ^^07:24
trappistcool, kernel 2.6.15 just rolled out07:24
aranfangorious:is there!? any idea where?07:24
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fangoriousintelikey: i haven't had a floppy in any of my machines for like 2 years, so i haven't looked for them in quite a while07:24
jdmpiketonyyarusso, thanks for the program, it is a pretty slick interface... I don't know why apple hasn't realeased a 'nix version of itunes... after all MAC is 99.9% unix07:24
corherearan: there is this app called smart boot manager, its a bootfloppy where you can select which drive, even cd drives, to continue to boot from07:25
aransmart boot manager07:25
aranthat's a start07:25
corherearan: site http://btmgr.webframe.org/07:25
aranthanks07:25
corhereyou just boot off the floppy, select cd-rom drive and you're going07:26
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arannice.07:26
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, I can't help you with the amsn thing, but formatting it all sounds a little drastic.07:26
XiCillinanybody use gnome predict?07:26
arantoo bad thath tthing doesn't have a higher pagerank07:26
B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  i know. but i really dont have any idea,...and nobody can help :\07:26
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, Couldn't you track down all of it's files and delete those rather than formatting everything?07:27
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fangoriousi have mail-notification installed, and it sometimes asks for my gnome-keyring passphrase, but no always. It seems very inconsistent and Ive come to realise I have no indication at any given time as to what is accessing my keyring. anyone know of anything resembling KDE's kwallet-manager to list keyrings and what applications are accessing which data?07:27
tonyyarussojrattner1, All right, that's done.07:28
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michaelDANG - so, is thier any wiki to help explain how linux works? like how things are installed and how they run - and how data is stored, like in the windows registry?07:28
michaelcrap like that??07:28
ImsdleI am trying to setup firestarter using a dialup modem and a lan card. I get sit0 not ready. What is sit0 and how can I select my modem?07:29
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Imsdlebtw this is for internet charing07:29
Imsdlesharing07:29
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzhi07:29
intelikeymichael rute07:29
fangoriousmichael: linux doesn't really have a windows registry, gnome has something xml based called gconf07:29
tonyyarussomichael, Applications > System > Configuration Editor looks like it resembles the Windows registry to me.07:29
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fangoriousmichael: applications are installed any number of ways, for ubuntu the best way is to use deb packages (handled with the dpkg command line tool) using dependency trackers like apt (command line) and synaptic (gui)07:30
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Avenhey07:31
intelikeydo a websearch  for 'rute'  it's the big book on linux07:31
fangoriousmichael: they also aren't generally installed to a single folder (like \Program Files\Application) but spread out (binaries in /usr/bin, libraries in /usr/lib, config files in /etc)07:31
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tonyyarussomichael, apt-get is seriously sweet, btw.07:31
fangorioustonyyarusso: it certainly is07:31
Imsdleanyone used firestarter for internet sharing or can show me how to share my dail up internet connection on ubuntu?>07:31
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: so long as they have what you want in the repositories ;)07:31
PuMpErNiCkLeImsdle: Have you checked to make sure the interface is activated?07:32
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intelikeyPuMpErNiCkLe yeah i mean with only 11000 packages to choose from.....07:32
michaelhow to uninstall programs installed via a tarball?07:32
tonyyarussoPuMpErNiCkLe, But it still amazes me how many things were there.  There were a bunch that I first went off looking for, and then discovered in the repos after all.07:33
fangoriousmichael: do you mean a tar file you extracted, compiled and installed (source tarball) or one you just extracted and started running (binary tarball)?07:33
intelikeymichael  'tar -xzvf <file>.tgz  ;cd <file> ;ls '  and read everything in the files in all caps.07:33
Imsdlethe network is activated... and i can ping and share files betweeen the pcs07:33
michaelinstalled07:33
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: true, but not always the latest, and not always working07:33
tonyyarussointelikey, Is that whole book online, or are those only parts of it?07:34
tonyyarussoPuMpErNiCkLe, Granted.07:34
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: ex: BZflag won't work when compiled with GCC4, which is what's in the repository.07:34
fangoriousmichael: if you installed it with 'make install' try 'make uninstall'07:34
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michaelty07:34
arancorhere: smart boot manager doesn't see the CD drive, know of any others?07:34
michaelgnight all - and thanks for putting up with me?07:35
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: I had more fun compiling it myself than playing it :D07:35
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intelikeytonyyarusso it used to be avalable in most distros  so surely you can find a full copy of it on line some place  it's about  40m07:35
corherearan: it doesn't? i don't know of any others. sorry.07:35
corhereyou would have to use the uuntu bootfloppy07:35
fangoriousaran: have you looked for a folder called images (or something similar) with a bunch of .bin files on the cd you burned?07:35
aranimages07:36
aransec07:36
fangoriousaran: this might be relevant: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/07:37
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fangoriousnot sure though, perhaps boot.img.gz is what you're looking for07:37
aranthanks for the link07:38
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tonyyarussoWhat's an IPv6 Tunnel (sit0), in terms of firestarter setup?07:38
fangoriousaran: i think this is the breezy install manual, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02s02.html#id251442807:39
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aranok that netboot folder is also on the cd... how do i turn it into a floppy?07:40
tonyyarussoCan I boot from an ISO for a bootable CD that is saved on the hard disk?07:41
fli7etonyyarusso, not to my knowledge07:41
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: If you use qemu, yes.07:41
intelikeyaran there is a w32 app 'rawwrite'   all linux systems have 'dd'07:41
tonyyarussoPuMpErNiCkLe, Okay.07:41
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B-166_ER-Xtonyyarusso,  any idea how can i 'trace' all amsn files and uninstall/install them by hand ?07:42
shade11Is there an mp3 encoder for BMP???07:42
tonyyarussoB-166_ER-X, All I'd guess is search for amsn and delete its directories.07:42
sethkB-166_ER-X, if you mean by name, then you can use find07:42
PuMpErNiCkLeB-166_ER-X: not that I know, specifically, but you can search for 'amns' and search for files created on the same day...07:43
PuMpErNiCkLe*amsn07:43
PuMpErNiCkLethat should cover most of it07:43
trappistif you installed the package, you could dpkg -L amsn07:43
B-166_ER-Xis there a way to search for hidden file with the 'search' app ?07:43
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sethkB-166_ER-X, the find command finds hidden files07:44
sethkB-166_ER-X, you don't have to do anything special07:44
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trappistB-166_ER-X: hidden files in linux start with . so, find /path -name '.??*' (to omit . and ..)07:44
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HollywoodHello all!07:44
PuMpErNiCkLeB-166_ER-X: If you're using the GUI, yes, there's an option.07:44
HollywoodWow lots of people here.  I'm new to this.07:44
Imsdlehas anyone here configured ubuntu to share a dail up connection for internet sharing07:45
intelikey   find ~/ -name '*amsn*'   ;find /usr -name '*amsn*'07:45
weekanghow do i configure a daemon to run on startup in ubuntu?07:45
B-166_ER-Xfinded it07:45
B-166_ER-Xthx07:45
trappistintelikey: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics07:45
aranrawwrite still needs an img file07:45
PuMpErNiCkLeB-166_ER-X: Places menu / search for files / more options /drop down menu -> show hidden files07:45
Hollywood<--- wants to know how to chnage refresh rate?07:45
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trappistHollywood: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:45
intelikeytrappist is that something i need to look at ?07:45
HollywoodThanks butI have no clue what that means.  :(07:45
tonyyarussoInteresting...Just installed and ran firestarter.  In the last few minutes it's logged 23 serious inbounds.  Can someone help me understand what it's seeing?07:46
HollywoodWindows convert.  :(07:46
tonyyarusso(Most of them relate to samba)07:46
trappistintelikey: no, it's my stupid tab complete again07:46
trappistImsdle: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics07:46
intelikeyk   np07:46
HollywoodJust copy and paste that somewhere?07:46
PuMpErNiCkLeHollywood: open a terminal and paste it07:46
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HollywoodHmmm...07:47
Hollywoodopena terminal huh?07:47
HollywoodOK brb07:47
shade11what was it that I had to apt-get in order to install from shell?07:47
sethktonyyarusso, most of them will be spurious07:47
tonyyarussosethk: Why?07:47
shade11nvm07:47
sethkshade11, nothing07:47
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sethktonyyarusso, because it isn't terribly intelligent07:47
HollywoodHow do I open a terminal?07:47
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tonyyarussosethk: Okay...07:48
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Imsdlethanks trappist..07:48
tonyyarussosethk: The IP address belong to my ISP, but aren't mine.07:48
PuMpErNiCkLeHollywood: It should be under Applications/Accessories07:48
HollywoodFound it!07:48
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starscallingah07:48
HollywoodYou're a genius!07:48
PuMpErNiCkLe:D07:48
starscallingvewwy fresh install of ubuntu here07:48
starscalling:D07:48
timfrostPuMpErNiCkLe,Hollywood should use pastebin07:48
starscalling!sources07:48
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:48
PuMpErNiCkLetimfrost: pastebin?07:48
sethktonyyarusso, I'm not sure what you are driving at (w.r.t. the IP address ownership)07:48
intelikeyhollywood   a login console is already waiting on   [ctrl] +[alt] +[F1-6] 07:48
starscalling!hoary guide07:48
ubotustarscalling: Not a clue07:48
timfrostubotu tell PuMpErNiCkLe about pastebin07:49
intelikeyassumes default inittab07:49
tonyyarussosethk: Wondering if it tells me anything.  Curious about what it's logging and why.07:49
sethktonyyarusso, if you want you can put it on the paste bot.  I'll look and I'm sure other people will as well07:49
HollywoodHow much memory should I give my card?07:49
Hollywood16?07:49
Hoxzereh07:49
Hoxzer;)07:49
hydroksydehmmm... maybe i'll actually start a GNUStubuntu project (ubuntu with a GNUStep desktop)... but with a better name07:50
tonyyarussosethk: Is there an easy way to copy from it, or do I have to retype it all?07:50
PuMpErNiCkLetimfrost: sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!07:50
PuMpErNiCkLeHollywood: That depends on the card.07:50
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sethktonyyarusso, edit the file in a gui editor (gedit, gvim, whatever), and paste it into the entry area of a paste bot web page07:50
HoxzerDo you guys know what should I do to get my sounds work with multiple softwares as now they work with only one program at the time07:50
sethkHoxzer, run a sound server07:50
vega-hm, seems eclipse doesn't work very well in breezy07:50
Hoxzersethk: how?07:51
vega-you cannot even install plugins unless you are root07:51
sethkHoxzer, it's probably already there.  I use kde, and theirs is artsd.  the one for gnome has a different name, someone?07:51
HoxzerI dont think so07:51
sethkHoxzer, you don't think it is there?  I mean on the disk, not there running07:52
DetectiveThere a place where I can find system requirements for Ubuntu?07:52
sethkHoxzer, the gnome one is snd, I believe07:52
Hoxzersethk: yes, it is not running07:52
HoxzerI dunno how to put it on07:52
sethkHoxzer, unfortunately I don't know how to start it with the gui, only from the command line.  But someone here will know.07:53
tonyyarussosethk and others: My firestarter list is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/653007:53
Hoxzersethk: well tell me how to do it with command line07:53
srianybody know how I can get something started from init as another user?07:53
PuMpErNiCkLeDetective: Ubuntu will run on any 386 or higher chip (486, pentium, AMD, etc.)07:53
HoxzerI can do it with virtual command line?07:53
PuMpErNiCkLeDetective: It just won't run well. ;)07:53
HollywoodOnce I change refresh do I need to reboot?  Its still npt showing up as an option.07:53
srisecondly, I can't seem to get breezy to exec xdm after installing breezy in server mode07:53
DetectiveAnything special with memory, hardware, etc., besides making sure drivers for things are in order?07:53
tonyyarussoDetective, If you intend to have a desktop client with X, they say 128M RAM, 2G hard drive, server is I think half the RAM, quarter disk.07:54
PuMpErNiCkLeHollywood: Restart the X server by hitting ctl-alt-backspace (note: this will quit all running graphical applications.)07:54
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DetectiveRight.07:54
sethktonyyarusso, as I think you noticed, it is flagging all the windows (samba, of course, here) metadata ports07:54
B-166_ER-Xokayyy : i search and deleted (after a full uninstall ) for 'amsn' files, and deleted a /usr/share/amsn folder, then reinstalled it and ...... wow : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/653107:54
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tonyyarussosethk: Yeah.07:54
sethktonyyarusso, I suppose the idea is that they are LAN packets and shouldn't be transferred between the LAN and the internet07:54
theArthurhow do i cause a program to be run at boot? what is ubuntu for /etc/init.d/local.start?07:54
DetectiveKind of moot right now, since I still need to get a good computer besides this budget comp. I don't think it could run DOS steadily.07:55
intelikeyPuMpErNiCkLe so what is special about ubuntu that it can't preform like other linux distros on i386 arch ?07:55
Hollywoodthanks07:55
sethktonyyarusso, but judging by the IPs there is nothing wrong here07:55
sethktonyyarusso, because source and dest are on the same subnet07:55
PuMpErNiCkLeintelikey: It uses Gnome by default... can you imagine Gnome on a 386? >_<07:55
WebLOCHDetective that would have more to do with the construction of DOS, than your computer07:55
sethktonyyarusso, I think the ppp encapsulation connfuses it07:55
tonyyarussosethk: Okay, that much makes sense.  My real question is, where are the requests coming from?  (There shouldn't be anyone trying to access those shares right now.)07:55
DetectiveWell, it's an eMachines thing my parents bought two years ago, so it can't do much of anything. XD07:55
intelikeyPuMpErNiCkLe i can see it on a p1 as we speek07:55
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sethkI don't know what machines those IPs correspond to, probably you do.  If you are on one of those machines, you can use lsof or netstat to find out which process is using those ports07:56
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sethktonyyarusso, do you have any bridges in your network?07:56
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tonyyarussoDon't know what that means, sethk.07:57
sethktonyyarusso, bridges, you mean?07:57
tonyyarussosethk: Right.07:57
sethktonyyarusso, a bridge makes two subnets act as a single subnet07:57
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tonyyarussosethk: And how would I have acquired such a thing?07:57
sethktonyyarusso, so with a bridge you'll see LAN traffic spanning multiple subnets07:57
sethktonyyarusso, same way as a router07:57
sethktonyyarusso, you buy one, or configure a *nix box to be one07:58
tonyyarussosethk: (One machine using very basic dialup, dialed in with wvdial)07:58
tonyyarussosethk: No configuration done on my part.07:58
sethktonyyarusso, ok, that's what you meant by the IPs belonging to your ISP07:58
WebLOCHAnyone want to help me get sensors running, I've had quite a few problems, Im beginning to think its due to my hardware..?07:58
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sethktonyyarusso, without access to those machines, there isn't any way to determine what process is sending them.07:58
tonyyarussosethk: Right.  A whois #### points to them, that's all I know.07:58
sethktonyyarusso, remember that, with ppp, you are essentially a part of their network, and the ppp bridge is transparent07:59
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sethktonyyarusso, so to the other machines on their network, you appear to be local07:59
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sethktonyyarusso, that's what I mean about the firewall thing being stupid.  It should be smart enough to deal with ppp encapsulation07:59
sethktonyyarusso, it's not like ppp is some rare thing.07:59
tonyyarussosethk: All right.  So what about the connection from 221.12.161.110, which whoises to something is Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China?08:00
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intelikeyPuMpErNiCkLe forgive the 'pet pieve' but it kinda pisses me off when i see people tell others what their hardware cant use 'linux' becaues it is to old/slow/small and then i look and see that the box in question would easily run laps around this one i'm using and it preforms adaquitly for what i want it to do.   p1133 64m ram and 1g hdd   running linux with kde & mozilla    it just bites to read that a p2/3 500mhz 256m ram 08:01
intelikeythat's p1 133  ^08:01
PuMpErNiCkLeintelikey: true08:01
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sethktonyyarusso, I don't see that address in what you pasted.08:02
sethktonyyarusso, is it a connection, or just a packet?08:02
PuMpErNiCkLeintelikey: I collect older 'spare' hardware from other people.08:02
sethkpaste the log line for it.  It's ok to paste a single line.08:02
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PuMpErNiCkLeintelikey: But still... a 386? o_O08:02
WebLOCHAnyone at all want to hellllp a brother out with his sensors?08:02
usernewbiehow can I check how much of free space do I have on HardDrive?08:03
tonyyarussosethk: Might be a new one, it's picking up all kinds of stuff as we speak.    How do I tell the difference between a connection and a packet?08:03
intelikeyPuMpErNiCkLe i run linux on a 486 lappy  does that count ?08:03
PuMpErNiCkLeWebLOCH: No... I don't want to go there again >_<08:03
PuMpErNiCkLeintelikey: With Gnome?08:03
intelikeyPuMpErNiCkLe non-X08:03
sethktonyyarusso, you can't, looking only at the packet (unless it is part of the connection handshake).  But netstat -a will show you connections08:03
PuMpErNiCkLeintelikey: ah - then it's an excellent box :)08:03
timfrostusernewbie, in a terminal type 'df -k'.  That shows the free space for each mounted file system08:04
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intelikeyyes i upgraded from windows95 to linux 2.4  and am well pleased with it.08:04
intelikey:)08:04
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odatanyone know if http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl  is an actual functioning repository?08:05
PuMpErNiCkLeWebLOCH: I still get nightmares from trying to debug that problem.08:05
usernewbietimfrost: why I can not mount floppydrive?08:05
tonyyarussoseth_k: I don't see a connection to it.08:05
usernewbietimfrost: can not read file from it08:05
tonyyarussoodat: Yeah, it is.08:06
odattonyyarusso, hmmm then it must be down right now cuz i'm unable to access it08:06
WebLOCHPuMpErNiCkLe, its annoying, i cant overclock again until  the  sensors work, but for some reason no-one knows why they wont.08:06
tonyyarussoIs there a list of what various port numbers might be used for somewhere?08:07
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PuMpErNiCkLeWebLOCH: 'fraid I can't help much08:07
odattonyyarusso, is it down for you too or do i have the wrong address?08:07
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timfrostusernewbie, I have no idea.08:07
tonyyarussoWhat's a UDP protocol?  (As opposed to TCP)08:07
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polpaktonyyarusso, it's DGRAM rather than STREAM08:08
FlannelKingUDP is stateless, unlike TCP08:08
FlannelKingno handshakes or the like08:08
tonyyarussopolpak, FlannelKing: Can that be dumbed down at all?08:08
cafuegotonyyarusso: TCP is a 5 star restaurant, UDP is all-you-can-eat08:08
polpaktonyyarusso, like the difference between a mail vs a phone call08:08
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PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: It's a protocol that doesn't do error checking.08:09
odatanyone able to check http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl repository to see if its actually down or if its something on my end08:09
tonyyarussoThanks all.  That sort of makes sense.08:09
cafuegopolpak: or between throwing and catching a bal versus a cannon08:09
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: It's more light-weight, for use when it doesn't matter if you get all teh data, or if you have a really reliable network.08:09
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tonyyarussoodat, I'm having trouble with it.  Was fine earlier today.08:09
aranOK so i've got rawwrite, the ubuntu cd, syslinux, a non-booting CD drive, and a ton of useless docs. can i install ubuntu?08:09
globeUDP doesnt force the second party to respond -- it just assumes that the packet was recieved08:09
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polpaktonyyarusso, it's an inherantly unreliable protocol. It's used when it doesn't matter if you get all the data, or if you don't care what order you get the data in08:10
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phyberoptixyo08:10
srican someone help me with a wireless problem?08:10
phyberoptixanyone here08:10
globesri: whats the prob08:10
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tonyyarussosethk: The blocked connections from the Chinese IP were UDP, length 485, port 1026, fyi.08:10
WebLOCHpolpak, thats  not true, its  often used in environments where low traffic overheads are necessary, and  the programmers write their own failsafes into the application logic08:11
sriglobe: for some reason I can't seem to get /etc/network/interface to set my wireless essid correctly08:11
polpaksri, no meta questions pls.. Just ask your question. if someone can help, they will08:11
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sripolpak: alrighty08:11
phyberoptixchk it when i am in gnome i can mute the sound with my kb but in fluxbox my sound is muted and i cant unmute it with the kb08:11
sethktonyyarusso, 1026 is not a reserved port.08:11
odattonyyarusso, i just disable it for now08:11
globesri: try iwconfig eth* ap any08:11
sethktonyyarusso, udp packets are typically streams, like audio08:11
sriglobe: what does that do?08:11
sriglobe: bind to any ap out there?08:12
globesri: that lets your wifi card .... yes08:12
sriglobe: what would I need to put in my interface file? wireless-ap any?08:12
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globesri: or, you can do iwconfig eth* essid "name-o-access-pt"08:12
sriglobe: yeah, all that works.08:13
sriglobe: it doesn't work when I boot08:13
tonyyarussosethk: Where could I find instructions advising what sort of things should be allowed and what blocked?08:13
phyberoptixhmmmmm08:13
sriglobe: it's a usb wireless thingee using the zd1218 driver.08:13
PuMpErNiCkLephyberoptix: Can you unmute it in fluxbox any other way?08:13
WebLOCHDoes anyone here have trouble getting programs to open with a specific application from nautilus?08:13
phyberoptixthats the thing08:13
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phyberoptixi dont see where its muted08:13
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jrattner1Anyone know of a program that will change the background of the gnome desktop similarly to the slideshow feature KDE has08:13
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sethktonyyarusso, I don't have a good url for that.  I'm sure there are several, but I've been doing this for so long that I haven't looked at them.08:13
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aranaran would like help if possible08:14
sriglobe: when it boots up the essid is set to None, and I have to set it by hand.... if I try to do ifup wlan0 it gives me some kind of can't set error.08:14
phyberoptixi know its got to be simple08:14
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tonyyarussosethk: All right, do you have any quick-start suggestions then?08:14
sriiwconfig wlan0 ap any fails too.08:14
theArthurhow can i have a program run at boot?08:14
PuMpErNiCkLephyberoptix: Have you run alsamixer to see what's muted and what isn't?08:14
polpaktonyyarusso, generally, security is done as "What services will people need to be able to access, and who specifically should access them.. Deny anything else"08:14
globesri: got me...I dont know anything about that driver.....08:14
odatgnome rocks!08:14
aransomeone help aran create an installer bootdisk08:15
WebLOCHWhen is dapper final realease?08:15
WebLOCH!dapper08:15
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake08:15
ImsdleI have a dailup Internet and I want to share this connection. Can anyone tell me how to configure the iptables to a ppp connection08:15
tonyyarussoWebLOCH, April.08:15
globesri: have you looked in the network configuration in X?08:15
WebLOCHtonyyarusso, cheers08:15
phyberoptixit says its off08:15
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phyberoptixhow can i turn it on08:15
sriglobe: I've installed it in server mode, building a mythtv box.08:16
theconartistcan anyone point me to a good list of 5.10 apt repo's?08:16
odatImsdle, you want to share a dial up connection   ouch08:16
intelikey!repos08:16
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource08:16
sriglobe: it's really strange and I don't understand how to get it to wrok consistently.08:16
odatsri, did you check out knopmyth  or something like that08:16
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timfrosttonyyarusso, best start is deny all inbound, but let outbound traffic out. Add explicit traffic  to inbound if it is required08:16
PuMpErNiCkLephyberoptix: use the arrows to pick the channel, hit 'm' to mute/unmute08:17
ImsdleOdat.. some of us do not have the luxury of technology in some parts of the world08:17
phyberoptixm08:17
phyberoptixffs08:17
PuMpErNiCkLephyberoptix: up/down arrows adjust volume, I think08:17
phyberoptixlol08:17
PuMpErNiCkLelol08:17
theconartist!easysource08:17
ubotueasysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:17
odatImsdle, understood and i hope the technology comes to you soon08:17
phyberoptixi told you08:17
phyberoptixsomething that simple08:17
theconartistintelikey, dont help me much :/ i already have those enabled08:17
PuMpErNiCkLeGlad to help :)08:17
globesri: got me....sorry08:17
phyberoptixall\\\\\\\\\\ty08:17
phyberoptix*ty08:18
ImsdleSAme.... in the mean time.. do youi have any ideas on how to do this. Firestarted soesn't work and is just a pain i the arse08:18
WebLOCHCan anyone recommend a good text for understanding the divisions of the filesystem?  (Like /bin and /usr etc etc)?08:18
sriglobe: no worries, I'll keep trying.08:18
intelikeytheconartist yeah it is kinda skimppy on the number of packages.... only about 8000 or something08:18
globesri: good luck08:18
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polpakWebLOCH, the filesystem heirarchy standard?08:18
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odatImsdle, no sorry never tried connection sharing of any kind08:19
WebLOCHpolpak, is that a joke or a serious recommendation or a question?08:19
B1zzhas anyone installed Legends on ubuntu?08:19
theconartistintelikey, :p08:19
polpakWebLOCH, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/08:19
WebLOCHpolpak, great stuff, thanks!08:19
polpakWebLOCH, a suggestion08:19
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WebLOCHpolpak, a simplified version of this might go down well as an introduction document to booting up linux the first time08:20
polpakWebLOCH, perhaps08:21
theconartistintelikey, i don't see enlightenment e16 in there though :/08:21
polpakWebLOCH, but most ppl just want things to "work"08:21
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tonyyarussoWhat are the services "DCOM-scm" and "uPNP"?08:21
WebLOCHpolpak, true enough08:21
polpakWebLOCH, if you really want to know how linux works (guts wise) you should check out "Linux from Scratch"08:21
intelikeyso Imsdle you in NZ ?08:21
theconartistintelikey, is it in any of those, or am i having problems with apt?08:21
tonyyarussoPorts 135 and 5000.08:22
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tonyyarussoIf I could look up ports in a list somewhere, that would be great.  Anyone have a link?08:22
intelikey!info enlightenment08:22
ubotuenlightenment: (The Enlightenment Window Manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.16.6-3ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 436 kB, Installed size: 1168 kB08:22
WebLOCHpolpak, i have some linux docu from uni, i just wanted a quick reference, imabout to start partitioning so I can organise what data gets formatted and when, rather than the whole load08:22
polpaktonyyarusso, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/randz/protocol/upnp.asp08:22
intelikeythat's 16 is it not ^08:23
liabletheres a list in /etc/services08:23
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theconartistintelikey, yes, but apt wont recognize it for me08:23
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theconartistintelikey, how do i clear everything?08:23
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theconartistim not very familiar with apt :/08:23
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dandielionoushello08:23
dandielionousDoes anyone know what the financial program is for kubuntu?08:24
intelikeytheconartist apt-get clean && apt-get update08:24
theconartistintelikey, ty08:24
timfrosttheconartis, try command  'apt-cache search enlightenment08:24
timfrost'08:24
intelikeytheconartist usdo them of course08:24
theconartisttimfrost, i already know that08:25
dandielionousI finally got kubuntu installed.  Just taking the easy way out by asking that question.08:25
theconartistintelikey, my problem was i had the e17 repo setup before08:25
vega-dandielionous: /j kubuntu08:25
vega-someone might know better there08:25
starscallingwell08:25
starscallingon the upside08:25
dandielionousokaaaay08:25
starscallingim getting rather good at ubuntu installs >_<08:25
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dandielionousty vega08:25
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ImsdleYUP08:27
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ImsdleIntelikey im in nz08:27
theconartistpoo poo08:27
theconartist"E: Package enlightenment has no installation candidate08:27
theconartist"08:27
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atha_halo08:28
theconartistintelikey, now what could it be? :(08:28
intelikeyImsdle yes i just noticed the comment about lack of high tech. *  and got curious.08:28
intelikeytheconartist you did remove the e17 already ?08:29
atha_I has download vmwarepalyer from it website. I has installed at my ubuntu. but know I conpuse how to use it. any body can hel me please...08:29
theconartistintelikey, yes08:29
Imsdlein the woops.. about 20minuts from hobbiton :D08:30
Imsdlean no im not a realation and i wan't in the film.. and no i dont' know peter jackson08:30
Imsdle:|08:30
ImsdleI have a dailup Internet and I want to share this connection. Can anyone tell me how to configure the iptables to a ppp connection08:30
Imsdleanyone?08:30
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tonyyarussoImsdle, Well, it's quite obvious I don't know how to use it yet, but firestarter did have a "share connection" thing in its wizard.08:31
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intelikeytheconartist idk.  man apt-get    or man aptitude  one of them should be able to force a down grade install of it, assuming the /etc/apt/sources.list is correct with universe enabled.08:32
Imsdlei know.. but i can't get it to see my modem and I don't know how to configure the ipv6 thingy08:32
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brettHell all thanks for your help - got my refresh rate fixed!08:33
theconartistintelikey, i dont have it e17 or the repo installed08:33
daskognow08:33
daskoghow can i fix the resolution on my Ubuntu install? im using a Geforce 7800 Gtx08:33
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intelikeyImsdle search google.com/linux for 'quicktables'  a script that helps you write an iptables script.    it may be what you need.08:34
daskogi can only get max 1024x76808:34
polpakdaskog, have you installed the nvidia driver?08:34
odatdaskog, did you install the nvidia glx driver in synaptic08:34
intelikeytheconartist then we are back to the repos setting in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:34
daskogyes08:34
daskogwhat do i do now08:35
KindredI don't suppose anyone knows how I stop my ntfs partition from putting an icon on the desktop? I still want to keep the cd/usb drives on there though.. hmmm08:35
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Open a terminal and write 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.08:35
odatdaskog, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:35
timfrostImsdle, you can probably ignore IPV6, unless you have an ISP that supports it (telecom doesn't).08:35
PuMpErNiCkLeodat: I win ;)08:35
odatPuMpErNiCkLe, lol08:35
odatPuMpErNiCkLe, but i answered twice lol08:35
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aransomeone help me out08:35
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PuMpErNiCkLeodat: dammit ;)08:35
aranplease08:35
odataran, with?08:36
PuMpErNiCkLearan: What's the question?08:36
arani want to make a boot floppy08:36
odatgotcha08:36
arani'm in windows08:36
arancan't boot from CD08:36
odataran, a linux boot floppy08:36
aranideally, boot up from floppy, then boot from CD08:36
aranless ideally, boot up from floppy, install from internet08:36
arani have rawwrite08:37
arani have a burned ubuntu iso08:37
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aranand i have a copy of syslinux08:37
Madpilot!enter08:37
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!08:37
daskogOk, that worked but now i get enter the Video card's bus identifier08:37
aransorry.08:37
aranWas that an automatic message?08:38
Madpilotaran: if you can't boot from CD, check your BIOS settings & boot order08:38
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: The default it gives you should work.08:38
odataran, did you check your bios?08:38
aranyeah, it can't do it08:38
odatdamn it08:38
aranyep.08:38
aranhave some faith. but not too much. :)08:38
Madpilotaran: you BIOS doesn't support booting from CD?08:38
aranit does but the CD drive is unhappy and the bios doesn't detect it. need drivers.08:39
aranthus need a preliminary boot disk.08:39
GanjhiFor some reason, when I try to CD to a folder I made in "/home/carl" it says no such file or directory... "/home/carl/Eternal Lands" no typos. Can anybody help? I'd also like to know what command in the terminal or root terminal I could use to move that folder onto my desktop08:39
odataran, http://www.bootdisk.com/08:40
aranyeah i looked.08:40
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aranof the 3 linux ones, one is not 40408:40
polpakGanjhi, you need to quote directories that have spaces08:40
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aranand it doesn't work08:40
arani booted, it froze and started trying to print things... :P08:40
PuMpErNiCkLeGanjhi: or write it like /home/carl/Eternal\ Lands/08:40
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MadpilotGanjhi: try just typing "Eter" then hitting the TAB key for autocomplete08:40
GanjhiThanks!08:41
GanjhiAny ideas on moving the folder?08:41
GanjhiSays I don't have write permissions.08:41
polpakGanjhi, did you create the directory as root?08:41
odataran, http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributions/Floppy/08:41
Madpilot!tell Ganjhi about cli08:42
MadpilotGanjhi: the bot just sent you a link with lots of terminal info in it...08:42
Ganjhithanks08:42
aranOK, how do i use one of those to boot from the CD?08:42
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odataran, dunno thats for you to figure out08:42
PuMpErNiCkLelol odat08:43
odatsheesh08:43
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yaaarword08:43
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odatlol08:43
odatgnome rocks!08:43
tonyyarussoCan Thunderbird store more than 2 e-mail addresses for a contact?08:44
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intelikeyrocks 'nome08:44
odattonyyarusso, i've stuck with evolution sorry08:44
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odati love this from the kde site.   QT is free unless you want to develope commercial software then you have to pay. lol Yea that will bring developers to a new platform     sheesh08:46
Pegger any have any experiense debugging phpmyadmin?08:46
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fli7eI have a FAT32 partition that I share with Windows XP on this computer. I can read from it in Breezy, but I can't write to it. What do I need to do to make it writable?08:47
intelikeyodat the idea is not to bring new developers in but to keep the software free to one and all.08:47
aftertaf!windowsdrives08:47
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f08:47
aftertaffli7e:  see that ^^^08:47
fli7ethanks08:48
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odatintelikey, hmmm i would imagine you would want both    but maybe i'm wrong08:48
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intelikeyfli7e add umask=0 in the /etc/fstab  the line that edscribes that filesystem08:48
fli7eintelikey, that's all i have to do?08:49
jendaHelp! xmms and OO.org segfault immediatly after startup! It worked fine yesterday and now it doesn't08:49
intelikeyodat both is good but if it comes to one or the other.  we want free08:49
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intelikeyfli7e and remount it  yes08:49
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: Have you installed or updated anything since yesterday?08:49
daskogAfter i configured my Nvidia drivers with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i still can't set the resolution higher than 1024x08:49
fli7eintelikey and aftertaf, thanks guys.08:49
odatintelikey, i agree however i would think that if you can have the best of both words why wouldn't you pick gtk then/08:49
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Did you restart the x server?08:50
daskoghmm08:50
jendaPuMpErNiCkLe: Yes, I have, I installed the nvidia driver08:50
daskogno08:50
tonyyarussoWhat does it mean to lock and unlock the firewall in firestarter?08:50
odatdaskog, did you select the resolution you would like to achieve when you reconfigured xserver?08:50
intelikey #debate08:50
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: hit ctrl-alt-backspace (NOTE: this will quit any graphical applications you have open.)08:50
daskogyes08:50
odatintelikey, is that for me?08:50
daskogand then what?08:51
intelikeyodat we are off topic....08:51
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: That just restarts the xserver.08:51
odatinfamouse, k08:51
daskogoh ok08:51
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: It's not a reboot.08:51
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: Anything else?08:51
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: Or just the driver?08:51
odatintelikey, k08:51
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intelikeyand i am kinda busy atm also.08:52
odatintelikey, then i will take that as a win by default  lol08:52
[nige] hey all08:52
jendaPuMpErNiCkLe, hmm... just the driver, i.e. I installed the kernel module, ... and I did install lynx08:52
intelikey:)08:52
odatlol08:53
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: That doesn't sound like it should cause any problems with OOo... 0_008:53
PuMpErNiCkLeweird08:54
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GanjhiHas anybody here successfully installed Wormux on Ubuntu?08:54
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[nige] anyone come across this problem, where by when i logout of Xwindows its changes the fresh rate on 1 monitor and only gets fixed when i restart X08:54
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intelikeyGPL zealot's moto  'free at any cost'08:54
godzzoHi!08:54
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: Is reinstalling OO.o and xmms in synaptic easily manageable for you?08:54
Hendikinsintelikey: *so* true08:54
PuMpErNiCkLe(ie, do you have a fast net connection?)08:54
jendaPuMpErNiCkLe: yes, no too bad. Dow big would that be...08:55
jenda*How08:55
PuMpErNiCkLeone moment...08:55
fli7eintelikey, when you say add umask=0 in the line that describes the filesystem, which line is that? the options one?08:55
liableyerp08:56
godzzoI have a problem with a Matroska video file (divx.5.2.1), the video is ok, but the audio is only beep-beep (like R2D2) :( Can anyone help me?08:56
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: *big*08:56
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: couple hundred MB08:56
aftertaffli7e:  you have one line per mountpoint... and the umask bit you put in where is says options, where you have auto,users, etc08:56
godzzomplayer audio info : [mkv]  Track ID 2: audio (A_AAC/MPEG4/LC/SBR), -aid 0, -alang jpn08:56
globeDoes anybody know of a website that goes over manual config of the xorg.conf file?08:56
jendaPuMpErNiCkLe: I'll start out by reinstalling xmms and then I'll see if it helps08:57
aftertafgodzzo:  do other players work with it? vlc for example?08:57
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: okay08:57
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intelikeyfli7e the line that has the device and mount point for the vfat filesystem     it should look something along the lines of  '/dev/hda3 /mnt/fat32 vfat defaults,auto,umask=0 0 0 '08:57
godzzoaftertaf: no, only mplayer play the video08:57
godzzoglobe, man xorg.conf ?08:57
odatjenda, whatcha trying to do?08:57
fli7ethanks both of you08:57
fli7eheros for the day08:58
globegodzzo....I thought I tried that...lemme see08:58
PuMpErNiCkLeodat: She installed the nvidia driver and kernel module yesterday, and today xmms and OOo are segfaulting.08:58
aftertaflol fli7e :) if only ;)08:58
jendaodat: my xmms and OO.o refuse to start (seg fault). Maybe other apps too.08:58
globegodzzo: okay....guess I didnt check there ;-) thanks!08:58
aftertafthere is a bug on the wiki page about nvidia and xmms.08:58
godzzogodzzo: not at all :)08:58
odatjeffisageek, did you install the nvidia driver from there website?08:58
aftertaf!nvidia08:58
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:58
odatjenda, i mean08:58
odatsorry08:59
jendaodat: I used the nvidia installer08:59
godzzoaftertaf, I try totem, kaffine, and now installing vlc08:59
PuMpErNiCkLeuh oh08:59
odatjenda, eeek08:59
jendaodat: It wouldn't work otherwise08:59
intelikeylol i just noticed that ubuntu can run with on fstab aftertaf08:59
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: apt-get install nvidia-glx failed?08:59
odatjenda, i would uninstall that and install the ones in synaptic09:00
jendaPuMpErNiCkLe, odat: Yes, it failed.09:00
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aftertafgodzzo:  not too hot on audio codecpbs though... sorry09:00
PuMpErNiCkLe*blink*09:00
cozhello all and happy third day of the year09:00
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odatjenda, what did it say when you tried to install it?09:01
cozaftertaf what is the problem09:01
godzzoaftertaf, what is "codecpbs"?09:01
aftertafwazzat intelikey ?09:01
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cozgodzzo what is the problem09:01
aftertafgodzzo:  problems with audio codecs... you may be missing the right one on your system.09:01
godzzocoz, Matroska video file (divx.5.2.1), the video is ok, but the audio is only beep-beep (like R2D2) :(09:01
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jendaodat: well x wouldn't start (cannot load nvidia driver module)09:01
cozOh let's check a few things09:02
cozdo you have all fo the gstreamer plugins09:02
odatjenda, what kind of nvidia card do you have?09:02
godzzocoz, yes multiverz too09:02
intelikeyaftertaf i "for some unknown reason" installed ubuntu again on one box, and i refused to let it mess with any partitions so it didn't write a fstab,  well i adjusted my boot loader and booted it.  it runs fine but has no fstab   hehhe09:02
sirexnow, ubuntu has only 6.3 version of vim, via apt-get, is there are a way to get newest version of vim with apt-get compiling vim from surces?09:02
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shad0w1equestion?09:03
cozthis Matroska video file what is it?09:03
godzzocoz, I donno, but mplayer handle it, vlc is not.09:03
shad0w1eMy only partition is being recognized as partition 2. How do I change that?09:03
aftertafloool intelikey09:03
jendaodat: geforce 2, and yes, I had the legacy package, I have the 686 kernel and even that I installed right, AFAIK.09:03
cozvlc sucks on linux get rid of it09:03
intelikeyaftertaf i was going to edit my fstab and typed 'nano /etc/fstab '  and it's blank.09:03
PuMpErNiCkLesirex: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vim/09:03
cozdo you have totem-xine installed09:03
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odatgodzzo, i have toyed around and mplayer is the best09:04
PuMpErNiCkLesirex: 6.4 is available there09:04
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godzzocoz, If I see, it is a container, can handle multiple sub, audio trakcs...09:04
daskogwhat was the command for config the Nvidia drivers again?09:04
aftertaflol intelikey good to know ;)09:04
sirexPuMpErNiCkLe: how about 7.0?09:04
godzzo:)09:04
PuMpErNiCkLesirex: nope09:04
odatjenda, will you give me a moment to assess it?09:04
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godzzoI like mplayer and I mostly use it09:04
jendaodat: sure09:04
cozOK guys this godzzo needs help here lend a hand09:04
intelikeyyeah i thought so too09:04
sirexPuMpErNiCkLe: compiling from sources via apt-get is not possible too?09:04
PuMpErNiCkLesirex: well, actually, yes... but it looks like a backport o_O09:05
shad0w1emy "hdd" drive only has one partition, but it's being recognized as "hdd2". This is because I was playing around with the partitions, but now I only have one. How can I change it to "hdd1"?09:05
cozgodzzo do other files play easily09:05
aftertafcoz:  godzzo : i use mplayer & xine...09:05
daskogis there a easy way to install the Latest Nvidia drivers for Ubuntu x86-64?09:05
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godzzocoz, yes I use w32codecs (wmv, ogm etc)09:05
aftertafshad0w1e:  not sure you can or that it would be of any use. define 'playing around'...09:06
cozok and it is only this file?09:06
mphello09:06
godzzocoz, yes09:06
daskogim so frutstrated and tired..09:06
cozwell perhaps there is nothing wrong with the system but with the file itself09:06
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: The latest in the repository, or the latest from nVidia's website?09:06
aftertafdaskog:  does the wiki have any info for 64bit systems?09:06
mpi seem to be having a problem with evince, and I was wondering if anyone had a clue...09:06
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shad0w1eaftertaf, I created a partition before it, then deleted the one before it, and resized this one to start at the beginning of the drive, thereby taking up the entire drive09:06
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laptophey, can anyone give me some support?09:07
mpit keeps crashing when I attempt to open pdf files, I suspect cause the files might be huge...   is that a known issue with evince?09:07
jendaodat: And mplayer segfaults too :(09:07
laptopim having a bad laptop issue09:07
aftertafshad0w1e:  hehe ok...  it shouldnt matter that its called hda209:07
cozlaptop what is the prob09:07
laptopwell09:07
odatjenda, did you install the nvidia-legacy-kernel-source?09:07
laptopthe usb's shot.. multiple shorts09:07
laptopcan i use a pcmcia for now?09:07
godzzocoz, maybe, but I have an another Matsoka (but is downloading), i will try too when it is completes...09:07
shad0w1eaftertaf, what if it's a FAT32 partition and I'm booting Win2k from it?09:07
cozgood godzzo let us know09:07
jendaodat: no09:07
cozsure laptop I don't see why not09:08
jendaodat: why?09:08
starscallingi get these errors with the seveas repositories...09:08
daskogPuMpErNiCkle: Nvidias web site09:08
godzzocoz, ok09:08
godzzocoz, aftertaf, thnx09:08
starscallingsays it cant stat them or some such notion..09:08
laptopwell im wondering if the usb controller is any different if you use pcmcia09:08
daskogaftertaf: are you beeing sarcastic?09:08
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: You might not want to do that.09:08
yaaaranybody know of a clipboard tool for gnome that's sort of like clipper? like it can remember the last several things you highlighted?09:08
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odatjenda, ok i'm gonna make a list of what you should have09:08
laptopcause its most cost effective..09:08
daskogwhys that?09:08
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Witness what jenda's going through now...09:08
aftertafshad0w1e:  the hda2?    if your nt bootloader references it correctly it should be ok. the hada(x) references are in lunix only.09:08
cozgive it a try laptop best way to learn09:08
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daskogoh well09:08
laptop...09:08
laptopso no one in here would know?09:08
intelikeyyaaar i guess you could use klipper09:09
daskogall i whant is a higher resolution on my display!09:09
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aftertafdaskog:  no i wasn't... just that a lot less ppl are on 64bit and there is less help for it...09:09
cozI don't know for sure but I am guessing it would use the usb controller onboard09:09
laptopwhats wrong daskog, 800 not big enough for you ? ;09:09
mpi seem to be having a problem with evince, and I was wondering if anyone had a clue...  it keeps crashing when I attempt to open pdf files, I suspect cause the files might be huge...   is that a known issue with evince?09:09
yaaarintelikey: well, i really don't have any kde apps i run, and so i don't want to burn the memory of loading up qt etc. just to have klipper09:09
cozmp I don;t use eveince but someone here might know if not go to ubuntuforums09:09
daskogwell im on a 19" LCD09:10
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PuMpErNiCkLemp: Can you open them with anything else?09:10
aftertafdaskog:  doesnt the latest repository one work fine?  you'll need to remove the nvidia website one first though09:10
laptopDASKOG09:10
PuMpErNiCkLemp: for example, xpdf?09:10
laptopCANT YOU JUST DO IT IN THE DESKTOP PROPERTIES?09:10
mpcould you tell me the command is, I apologize but im new to linux09:10
aftertafdaskog:  what actual driver are you running X on right now?09:10
yaaarintelikey: also, will that even work? it doesn't require kde to be running to catch it's input?09:10
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cozmp download adobe reader09:10
intelikeyyaaar memory in high demand there is it ?     like i have 64m   and run kde with klipper in that with no swap.....09:10
PuMpErNiCkLemp: xpdf /path/file ?09:10
odatjenda, xserver-xorg-driver-nv , nvidia-kernel-common , nvidia-glx-legacy     this is after you uninstall the driver you installed the other day   then after you install these open a terminal and enter 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:11
daskogaftertaf: Far as iknow i only used synaptic to install the driver09:11
PuMpErNiCkLemp: I have it set as my default, so I'm just guessing.09:11
cozor gonto your add applications and look for adobe reader under office09:11
blackvdmy home directory is 90% full just found out why ...files I 'deleted' months ago are stored in ~/.local/share/Trash for some reason.Anyways it wont let me delete said files even in terminal.So how do I delete them?09:11
starscallingfirst it stays on " 99% [Connecting to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (83.160.7.26)]  " for quite some time when sudo apt-get update09:11
aftertafmp or open synaptic and search 'pdf', then install one of them instead. the command is mostof the time the same as the package name.09:11
mpthat would work, but i kinda want to stay away from adobe reader, reason because I need a viewer for dvi, ps, etc...09:11
daskoglaptop:?09:11
laptop***if anyone has owned a laptop and had their usb ports short out, and had to use a pcmcia usb adapter, could they please speak up?***09:11
j-linuxis there a way to get a list of installed packages outputted to a text file?09:11
aftertafBlackJudas:  rm09:11
PuMpErNiCkLeblackvd: rm -rf /path/to/file ?09:11
yaaarintelikey: right, you run kde with klipper. but i'm running gnome/gtk for all my stuff at this point. so it just seems a waste to have to load the whole second set of widgets and such09:11
jendaodat: OK, how do I uninstall them, though?09:11
cozblackvd are they root accessonly09:11
aftertafj-linux:  dpkg -l > text.txt09:11
blackvdk thanks09:11
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j-linuxaftertaf: thanks09:12
starscallingso i guess im wondering if anyone else has problems with sevaes's repositories09:12
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: There should be an uninstall script with the nVidia download.09:12
odatPuMpErNiCkLe, thanks man09:12
intelikeyyaaar the point was even if you had to add all of kde to your 'nome  it still shouldn't add more than 64m ram usage.09:12
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cozstarscalling I don't use anyting by seveas09:12
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daskoggive away my Gf 7800gtx  can get it to work anyway =P09:13
PuMpErNiCkLeodat: Just hopping around :)09:13
starscallingah09:13
daskogcan't09:13
yaaardaskog: i'll take it09:13
odatjenda, and if that doesn't work i bet you any money its the nvidia legacy glx driver       but try that first09:13
starscallingguess ill just delete his sources then....09:13
j-linuxaftertaf: that worked even better that what I was looking for... thanks again...09:13
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: I'll take it :D09:13
aftertafj-linux:  ;)09:13
yaaarPuMpErNiCkLe: beat ya09:13
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Beats my 6600GT hands down09:13
daskoglol09:13
PuMpErNiCkLeyaaar: Curse you!09:13
daskogright now it dont beat s***09:13
yaaardaskog: so what's the trouble anyhow?09:14
aftertafdaskog:   PuMpErNiCkLe : the ./NVIDIA-installer.sh accepts a --uninstall switch09:14
daskogi ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:14
blackvdwow went from 90% full to 19% anyone know why it stores stuff there?09:14
daskogrebooted and still no higher res09:14
aftertafblackvd:  trashcan09:14
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Have you tried changing it in Pref(menu)-> resolution?09:15
aftertafblackvd:  if you delete in gui, it goes tere... unless you hold shift at same time09:15
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daskogyes09:15
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daskoghighest is 102409:15
PuMpErNiCkLeand...?09:15
PuMpErNiCkLeah09:15
cozblackvd there is a setting with right click delet bypasses trash09:15
blackvdwhy doesnt it just delete it like I asked?09:15
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daskogaftertaf: what you mean?09:15
Toma--black hold shift then press delete on them09:15
cozblackvd go to system preferences09:15
aftertafdaskog:  normally no need to reboot even.   can you use 1024.768.09:15
jendaodat, PuMpErNiCkLe: Wait... before I do that... I noticed that I am supposed to comment out the Load "GLcore" in xorg.conf, which I didn't do. Could that cause segfaults?09:15
cozfiles managment09:15
ardchoilleHappy birthday to me!!! I was born on Jan. 3, 1964 @ 07:35 :)09:15
starscallinglibvisual WARNING: no progname: visual_plugin_get_list(): Failed to add the /usr/lib/libvisual/transform directory to the plugin registr09:15
starscallinganyone ever run into that error??09:16
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: possibly...09:16
aftertafdaskog:  for the nvidia website drivers package, if you want to remove it you can by running it with a switch on the end.09:16
PuMpErNiCkLejenda: I commented it out, so I dunno :)09:16
aftertafloool ardchoille  happy burfday09:16
jendaI'll try that first then09:16
daskogcan you write the command for me?09:16
cozblackvd the go to the behavior tab and tick the box for right click delete09:16
odatjenda, this is gonna sound rough but what would you rather have something that kinda works ok or something that works like it should?09:16
daskogim totaly new with linux!09:17
Hoxzerhow do I enable sound server?09:17
cozand uncheck the ask for confirmation unless you like that09:17
daskogaftertaf: Softimage Xsi 5 must have native resolution on 19" LCD to be functional09:17
jendaodat: well odat, the apt install never worked for me, so I'm guessing that if it's _caused_ by the GLcore module, tehn I prefer the quick hack :)09:17
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daskogi dont get it! this was not a problem with Suse 1009:18
_Rappy_newbie question: I'm connected to a server via ssh. What's the commando to show the servers current time?09:18
ardchoillethanks daskog09:18
odatjenda, are you using synaptic to install this stuff?09:18
Hendikins_Rappy_: date09:18
jendaodat: no09:18
_Rappy_tnx Hendikins :)09:18
shad0w1eaftertaf, I did not have the 2000 CD and I transferred my 2000 OS onto a second hard drive, and copied the MBR using the dd (bs=446) command. So I want to get hdd2 to be recognized as hdd1, if I could...09:18
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odatjenda, prolly should its much more informative and easy to boot09:18
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odatlol09:18
daskogardchoille: ???09:18
ardchoilledaskog: sorry, wrong nick09:18
ardchoilleaftertaf: Thanks :D09:19
odatdaskog, open up synaptic do a search for nvidia and tell me what you have installed09:19
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daskog5 sek09:19
jendaodat: hmm... apt-get and apt-cache works fine for me :)09:19
jendabrb09:19
PuMpErNiCkLepeace out all - sleep09:19
odatsheesh why are women so stubborn? :)09:19
PuMpErNiCkLelol odat09:20
odatsee ya pum09:20
odat:)09:20
intelikeywhat fs type does ubuntu use for cdrom  udf or somethin like that ?09:21
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odatiso9600 or something like that lol09:21
daskogodat: nvdial-glx 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1,    nvidia-kernel-common,           nvidia-settings,         xserver-xorg-driver-nv09:21
aftertafdaskog:  the file you got from the website... do you remember how you ran it? sh ./NVIDIA-[lots of numbers] .sh   ?09:22
intelikeyodat interesting cause all i get out of iso9660 is wrong fs type errors09:22
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Peggerwhat is the name of the snmp web program that gratheres statics I belive that it's mascot is a cactius09:22
daskogi did not download anything frome the Website09:22
aftertafdaskog:  ohhhh. ok. i understood wrong then. nevermind... :)09:22
daskognp09:23
odatdaskog, uninstall that nvidia-setting out of there and choose to reinstall all the others    that nvidia-settings thing is starting to cause problem with recent releases09:23
daskogok09:23
aftertafnvidia is sort of pot luck at the moment....09:23
odatintelikey, that is what i used with cedega to do something and it worked :(09:23
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odataftertaf, agreed although i haven't had any problems with it for a long time09:24
intelikeyhmmm works manually....09:24
intelikeybut not from fstab09:24
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odatintelikey, weird09:25
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phos-phoross/evil/dirty09:25
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daskogodat: done!09:26
aftertafodat:  me neither... and in dapper it works fine again now, but didnt for a while09:26
yaaarword09:26
daskogodat: is that all?09:26
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yaaaryeah, so klipper works just perfect in gnome.09:26
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yaaarit still offends me on principle....gnome really should have that same function as a gtk deally. but whatever09:26
aftertafphos-phoros:  qemu is fun too09:26
yaaaraftertaf: yeah, but sloooooow09:26
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aftertafyaaar:  there is that....09:27
yaaaror at least it was for me, emuing winxp09:27
aftertafme 209:27
yaaarsure as hell was neat though, having a winxp desktop in a window on your linux box09:27
odatdaskog, now i would do the reconfigure thingy again and when it gets to the screen where it ask you to mark the resolutions you would like to achieve make sure you mark them. I have only ever achieved 1280 x 1024 but my graphics card isn't as nice either. then when your done with that restart your computer09:27
odataftertaf, you mean the nvidia-settings thing?09:28
daskogok09:28
daskogthanks09:28
shad0w1eaftertaf, thanks for all the help!09:28
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odatdaskog, don't get discouraged it does work and well linux and ubuntu are worth a little golf headache lol09:29
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UniqueNameHey i need some help i just install ubuntu on my LW40 express laptop and it had probs with the soundcard i managed to control print screen E to get past the problem with hotplug to get into ubuntu but beucae i terminated the task i think it stoped it from loading my network drivers so now i have no sound and no network drivers can someone help me get the stuff setup nice09:29
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odatUniqueName, try a reinstall first09:30
intelikeyodat ?09:31
odatintelikey, ?09:31
intelikeywhy not a reconfigure09:31
liableUniqueName: /etc/init.d/networking start09:31
UniqueNamei tried installing twice09:31
intelikeydpkg-reconfigure -a09:31
UniqueNameand it does not like my soundcard09:31
liableUniqueName: add sudo's as you see fit..09:32
intelikeycheeper that a reload09:32
odaton a fresh install that goes wrong somewhere i feel its just a better idea to try a reinstall rather than fix a broken system to begin with09:32
UniqueNamei did the dpkg thing to get into linux09:32
UniqueNamebut the soundcard problem still exists09:32
daskogodat: So true09:32
UniqueNameif you do a google search for LW40 express09:32
daskogsee you around..soon09:32
UniqueNameyou will see its a problem with the hardware09:32
odatdaskog, k09:32
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UniqueNamethere is a kernel patch for the problem09:32
jendaodat, PuMpErNiCkLe: lol... I commented it out and X refused to start. I'm in too much of a hurry to bother with it now, but since I need to fix several things anyway, I will prolly do a clean reinstall over the weekend. BTW, I turned back to the "nv" driver, and OO.org now works. Xmms doesn't...09:32
odatdaskog, wishing you lol09:32
intelikeyhmmmm if i use that theory, i can not run ubuntu.09:32
liableUniqueName: check on tuxmobil.org to see if anyone has a work around for your laptop09:33
intelikeyall i can do is reload it endlessly09:33
odatjenda, pretty please try synaptic with the list i gave ya and the reconfigure command    you'll be happy :)09:33
UniqueNameliable i can see networking in that list in init.d09:34
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UniqueNamebut its not starting09:34
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UniqueNameit says sudo networking command not found09:34
odatintelikey, did i tell you what i did last week?09:34
intelikeyguess not.09:34
liableUniqueName: um, sudo /etc/init.d/networking start09:34
jendaodat: I would - If I could. I would first need to uninstall the driver, which is apparently next to impossible. ATM - OO.org works, which allows me to live about a day longer ... I will first try what you say before I do a clean reinstall :).09:35
odatintelikey, took the dive no more dual boot for me i said f*** it i'm going entirely linux lol     erased my drive and said see ya as soon as i got madden football running on linux lol09:35
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intelikey:)      good on ya odat09:36
UniqueNameliable it said ok but the networking thing is not showing a new network device09:36
odatjenda, if you open synaptic you may be able to uninstall it from there or simply override the driver you installed the other day09:36
UniqueNamethe setup detected by network cards in the install as it asked me for my wep for my wireless net09:36
odathahahahahahah very very evil like is how i laughed afterwords lol09:37
jendaodat: lol... And how will that be different from what I had before I installed with the nvidia installer?09:37
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odatUniqueName, might have to look into nsdiwrapper or something like that lol09:37
liableUniqueName: then go into the network config thing and have a look around..09:37
UniqueNamei have done that liable thats why i know its not there09:38
UniqueNamei did a ls *net* in initd and saw hotplug-net i am guessing thats my problem as i had to terminate the hotplug thing on the boot09:38
UniqueNameas it was having a error with my soundcard09:38
fli7eis there a good GUI frontend for smbclient that anyone knows of?09:38
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UniqueNamei think if i fix my soundcard i will fix my problem with network or am i wrong?09:38
odatjenda, nvidia driver is not as nice as the ones in the repositories and or synaptic which is why we all use those and not nvidia installer thingy09:38
tepsipakkiis my dapper the only one which is having interactivity problems.. the system feels quite sluggish, even though the hardware isn't (2.2GHz celeron, 512MB)?09:39
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tepsipakkisame hardware with sarge/breezy is snappy09:39
jendaodat: they didn't work for me before. The only thing I'm thinking might do the trick is completely removing the official drver, and then apting it. But just doing the same thing as before - apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy and the rest, that just has no point.09:40
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andy__moin09:41
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Raskallanyone has a good solution (other than a killall cronjob) for the gam_server hogging all cpu, RAM and swap.09:41
bretthello unbuntu gods!09:41
brettIs it possible to dual or tripple boot?09:41
HendikinsYes.09:41
brettwhat's the procedure?09:41
Raskallbrett: you can even octoboot. :)09:41
brettlol09:41
brettTY09:41
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brettSo what's the best way?09:41
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brettI have this old box09:41
odatjenda, ok its your headache i suppose i'm just telling you how i would GET IT TO WORK09:41
intelikeynonoboot :)09:41
brettthat would be a great Win98 / XP / Ubuntu box09:41
HendikinsRaskall: I think the most OSes I've had on one box has been about 6... back when I cared.09:42
bretton a 20gb drive :)09:42
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intelikeydecaboot09:42
jendaodat: Thanx man - I'll get back to it as soon as I can.09:42
theconartistthis is makin me mad09:42
brettso hooow09:42
odatintelikey, gigaboot?09:42
brettso how?09:42
Hendikinsbrett: I'd install the Windows first, then Linux09:42
intelikeyi doubt that odat09:42
brettwhich windows?09:42
Hendikinsand I'd put the XP on NTFS so that 98 can't see it09:42
Raskallbrett: make 3 partitions. first, install win98, then install xp, then finish with ubuntu. ubuntu will set up the triple boot for you09:42
odatHendikins, true09:42
Dark_Side_Of_Theguys...hello. does anyone know what do i have to do to make work the nvidia driver with a recently installed kernel image for i686 ?09:42
brettlol sweet09:43
Hendikinsand I'd use a common data partition, FAT32 would be sensible for that.09:43
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Raskallbrett: actually win98 and xp can be on the same partition, but then XP would have to use a fat32 partition09:43
brettthey cso 4 partitiions on a 20gb?09:43
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intelikeyodat there is a limit.  initial ram that bios allots you know.09:43
Kindredand a swap partition :P09:43
odatDark_Side_Of_The, wow nvidia hell tonight09:43
HendikinsRaskall: That's asking for problems. Keeping them apart is prudent09:43
Raskall20 gig and triple boot is virtually impossible09:43
odatDark_Side_Of_The, do you have all the necessary drivers installed?09:43
Dark_Side_Of_Thehehe...why odat?09:43
RaskallHendikins: I know. but it would work. :)09:43
brettactually guys my data drive will be netwoek so that's not needed09:43
Dark_Side_Of_Theyes09:43
HendikinsRaskall: No, it isn't. Tight? Yes. Virtually impossible? No.09:44
Dark_Side_Of_Thenvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx09:44
odatDark_Side_Of_The, did you do a reconfigure?09:44
Dark_Side_Of_Thethe only problem is that with i686 it just* don't load the module09:44
brettplease keep in mind I'kll have virtually no apps or data09:44
Dark_Side_Of_Thedbkg-reconfigure?09:44
RaskallHendikins: ok, I give. But there'll be very little room for data. :)09:44
brett8. 8. and 4?09:44
odatDark_Side_Of_The, yea09:44
HendikinsYou could give Win98 and WinXP a primary partition each, and toss your data/Linux/swap in an extended.09:44
Dark_Side_Of_Thewich packet do i have to reconfigure?09:45
odatDark_Side_Of_The, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:45
HendikinsRaskall: Depends on what data is involved, etc.09:45
brettso three partitions.  8 for xp 8 for unbuntu and 4 for win98?09:45
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Dark_Side_Of_Theohh...that is new..09:45
Dark_Side_Of_Thefor me09:45
tepsipakkino one here is running Dapper?09:45
Dark_Side_Of_Thethank you very much for your help odat09:45
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brettor doe ubunGuys09:45
odatDark_Side_Of_The, np09:45
brettblah09:45
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brettSeriously I'm ready to reboot.  What ya think?09:46
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Hendikinsbrett: I'd probably go 7 each for XP/Ubuntu, 3 for 98, remainder data.09:46
brettdon't need data09:46
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Raskallbrett: my advice is to set aside a 3 gig partition for win98. 7 gig for XP and then leave the rest unpartitioned and set it up when you install ubuntu.09:46
Raskallbrett: as Hendikins says 3 gigs for shared data partition would be sensible09:46
brettubuntu will make a bunch of little partitions then right?09:46
intelikey<brett> so three partitions.  8 for xp 8 for unbuntu and 4 for win98? <--- looks like a good plan to me09:46
brettThanks raskal but NO data needed09:47
odatbrett, all ubuntu sounds good to me :)09:47
daskogAh finaly =)09:47
brettInstall 98 first then xp then ubuntu?09:47
odatdaskog, got it?09:47
brettGot it.09:47
daskogodat: thanks to you it works09:47
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brettAny last suggestions (other than to get a clue)?09:47
odatdaskog, cool09:47
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daskogNow i dont have to give my card away after all :P09:47
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brettclose enough09:47
Hendikinsbrett: I'd probably do XP, 98, Linux09:47
Raskallbrett: back up any data that's there now.09:47
intelikeybrett always make backups of important crap09:48
brettno data clean machine09:48
Hoxzerhow do I enable sound server?09:48
brett(this one)09:48
odatdaskog, lolol hey before you go make sure you have all you repositories open it will make your life much easier09:48
Raskallbrett: then roll..09:48
bretti don't think you can install 98 AFTER xp09:48
Hoxzerwhat is the best way to monitor my CPU tempature?09:48
intelikeyyou can but it's not easy09:48
Hendikinsbrett: You can if XP is on NTFS, and you put 98 on a primary that you've manually set active.09:48
daskogwhat you mean by that?09:48
brettok thanks all so much from rainy los angeles09:48
Raskallbrett: I think it's very wise to have win98 on the first logical partition and therefor install it first.09:48
odatdaskog, open up synaptic and i'll show you09:48
brettyah09:48
brettgot it raskall09:49
daskogok09:49
HendikinsRaskall: I'd agree - if XP couldn't see FAT32.09:49
Hendikinscertainly with NT4 I used to do 9x first09:49
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non-owned_nickAnyone know much about Synaptic and authentication issues?09:49
daskogodat: it's open09:50
Hendikinsand since grub would be used as a bootloader, you wouldn't need 98 in the NT boot menu or anything like that.09:50
Hendikins(Yes, I know the person who asked the question has left)09:50
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odatdaskog, k this is a little bit of a process but basically what your doing is adding thousands of more programs that you could use if you wanted to   in synaptic09:50
intelikeyactually i don't know why anyone wants more than one M$ windows installed anyway..... actually one is excessive.09:50
HendikinsMasochist?09:51
daskogok09:51
moodogMorning all.09:51
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odatdaskog, ok first do this "settings , repositories, settings , click box next to show disabled software sources and click ok09:52
theconartistintelikey, i still havent figured out how to fix this :/09:52
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UniqueNameCan someone quickly tell me what command you use to run deb files from the command line09:52
intelikeystill trying to load e16 theconartist ?09:52
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theconartistyes09:52
daskogodat:done09:53
UniqueNameplz hurry there is like 6min left of laptop battery09:53
odatdaskog, then in the list in that box in front of you click off the top one that is for the cd, that isn't needed anymore,  look through the list and check the boxes next to the ones that aren't checked09:53
intelikeypastebin your sources.list theconartist09:53
theconartistUniqueName, usually  dpkg -i09:53
liableUniqueName: plug it in! (dpkg -i foo.deb)09:53
intelikeyUniqueName plug in.09:53
chris1086_could someone help a noob here?09:53
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daskogok09:54
non-owned_nickCan anyone help me with a authentication problem (package management)?09:54
odatdaskog, then click the add button on that window09:54
daskogok09:54
chris1086_I don't know how to use the command line in ubuntu09:55
daskog& then OK again?09:55
odatdaskog, there is a menu in that little window that pops up click on the boxes that aren't checked then hit ok,  hit add again go to the next menu item and repeat until you went through all three09:55
daskogok09:55
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theconartistintelikey, it looks like it should; everything is enabled exept for sources09:57
aftertaf!tell chris1086_ about cli09:57
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intelikeytheconartist does your apt-cache search  find it ?09:58
theconartistintelikey, find what09:58
daskogodat: there, im done09:58
theconartistintelikey, the package?09:58
intelikeytheconartist e16  what are you trying to install09:58
intelikeyyes09:58
odatdaskog, after all of that hit ok then YES and synaptic libraries will update themselves once that is done you can click it off because a little window will pop up at the bottom that says upgrade available do you want to install. You can not use this kickass feature when you have synaptic open so click install updates and let it update your system. once its done restart your computer and make sure to come back so i know your ok lol09:58
theconartistintelikey, yes09:59
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andy_mitsoundg'day09:59
intelikeytheconartist then it should install.... maybe you have a config hanging aroung from a former install ?    look in /etc09:59
odatdaskog, still here?10:00
daskogok10:00
odatdaskog, one more thing10:00
daskogmm10:00
odatdaskog, i imagine you want to be able to view windows media files and stuff right?10:00
non-owned_nickANyone able to help me with an authentication problem with synaptic/update manager?10:00
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daskogyea sure10:01
odatdaskog, k still have synaptic open?10:01
non-owned_nickAll packages are unauthenticated10:01
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daskog5 sek10:01
Irvinehow to cd to cd-rom?10:01
non-owned_nickBeen like it for a couple days now.10:01
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daskogodat: now its open again10:02
theconartistintelikey, not that i see10:02
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Irvinehow to change directory to cd-rom?10:02
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odatdaskog, k go back to settings and repositories10:02
Irvinein terminal10:02
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daskogk10:02
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andy_mitsoundi want to install the sun java jre , thats my first time, which version should i use ?10:03
odatdaskog, click add then custom10:03
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intelikeytheconartist i know this may sound silly but do a dpkg -i <package>  just to make sure it's not installed10:03
theconartistapt tells me it is not available10:03
zzbehihi everyone10:03
odatdaskog, then copy and paste this in         deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main10:03
intelikeyor is that -li10:03
odatdaskog, hit ok10:03
odatdaskog, then10:03
Irvinehow to change directory to cd-rom?10:03
Irvineanyone10:03
odatdaskog, do it again and copy and paste this in      deb-src ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu breezy main10:04
daskogok10:04
theconartistintelikey, nope10:04
intelikeyIrvine cd <path>10:04
odatdaskog, and hit ok10:04
intelikeytheconartist idk.10:04
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theconartistppoopie10:05
odatonce you install all your update we will get mplayer    and or your movie player working damn nice     thats after your restart of course lol10:05
Irvineintelikey,how?i don't know its patch.10:05
strohwho can tell  me should i use  i use Linux RPM (self-extracting file) or Linux (self-extracting file)?  for install the sun jre10:05
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blaamannstroh: The last one10:06
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intelikeyIrvine /cdrom   maybe  :)     lest look in /mnt/10:06
strohk thx10:06
non-owned_nickthe wiki instructions for fixing synaptic are fubar10:06
non-owned_nicktry looking in /madia10:06
intelikeyIrvine maybe even  /media/10:06
newbieshow run run check disk in my ubuntu?10:06
intelikeyfsck newbies10:06
daskogodat: could not download all repository indexes!10:07
Irvineintelikey,ok10:07
Chousukehm. /10:07
newbiesintelikey, ty10:07
Irvinei done it10:07
Chousukecan't make freenx work10:07
non-owned_nickI have the same problem10:07
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odatdaskog, those last two i had you put in did you put the entire line in or just the url?10:07
kareljanhello10:07
kareljanI'm new in linux10:07
kareljancan anyone help me?10:08
intelikeynewbies it's fsck<tabkey><tabkey>  for a list and  man fsck.vfat   or what ever fs type for the howto10:08
ChousukeI'm trying to connect to my freenx server with the OS X client, but it fails the first time with "failed to set authorisation cookie" and the next time it seems like it's working, but I see only black.10:08
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blaamann kareljan: Dont ask to ask10:08
non-owned_nicklo Toma-     bit warm today eh10:08
kareljanI need to install realvnc10:08
daskogodat: entire line10:08
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kareljanbut i have no idea how to do it10:08
odatdaskog, did it say somthing about not being able to verify gpg or something like that?10:09
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non-owned_nickAnyone know why security updates can't be authenticated (same problem for 5 or so days now)10:09
daskogit sayd might not longer be avalible10:09
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daskogor somthin like that10:09
kareljanno i just haven't ever installed something on linux10:09
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WebLOCHhey guys, what partitioning software do you use?10:09
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intelikey!find vnc10:10
Irvineqtparted10:10
odatdaskog, this thing that no biggy i have that too   it doesn't affect anything10:10
intelikeylists 15 potential victoms10:10
kareljan!find vnc10:10
WebLOCHIrvine, i tried that it doesnt seem to want to let me resize an extended partition10:10
liableapt-cache search?? :)10:11
daskogodat: http://pastebin.com/48840810:11
intelikeykareljan  linuxvnc  may be what you are looking for10:11
newbiesintelikey, can i check disk on my mounted devices?10:11
kareljanhow do I install a package?10:11
newbiesintelikey, the device is on /dev/hda110:11
non-owned_nickkareljan,    do you need 'realvnc' or just a vnc app?10:11
odatdaskog, k hold on thats not the right thingy give me a sec10:12
intelikeynewbies it is not recomended.        newbies read the man page on fsck.*10:12
daskogodat:http://pastebin.com/48840910:12
non-owned_nickkareljan,    try selecting system, administration, synaptic package manager, choose search and look for vnc10:12
newbiesintelikey, awkis10:12
intelikeynewbies you can umount non-/ partitions and fsck them.10:12
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intelikey? awkis10:13
odatdaskog, are you using amd64?10:13
daskogyes10:13
daskogamd x210:13
non-owned_nickthe .au security repositories seem to be broken, if anyone cares.10:14
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odatdaskog, k didn't know that   hold on10:14
daskogi forgot to tell10:14
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weekanghey10:15
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odatdaskog, k those two libraries i had you put in synaptic are not for amd64 so you can go back in synaptic and remove them from the list then update again10:15
weekangwhere do i file/browse bug reports for dapper flight 2?10:15
Irvinewebloch,you can download system rescue cd10:16
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daskogoh now i dont remember wich one lol10:17
odatdaskog, they are most likely the two at the bottom of the list10:17
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daskogodat: ok10:18
daskogdone10:18
odatdaskog, ok cool you might as well do the update thingy  close synaptic and click on that little icon that keeps bugging you about updating you system10:19
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kareljancan someone help me to install realvnc?10:19
HendikinsIs it just me, or did this slip completely under the radar? http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb05-07.html10:19
kareljanin a private box?10:19
daskogodat: ok i i'll do that10:20
windowmakeranybody know how to fix the sound sync problem in flash player (for firefox?)10:20
windowmakerwhat happened to this channel? =O, nobody's talking10:21
Hendikinswindowmaker: That's been bugging me for god knows how long. Since it happens with gflashplayer as well, I suspect it is a problem with Macromedia's code, not ours.10:21
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binarydigitkareljan: ask questions10:22
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intelikeyhmmm this is odd, i have man-db installed  but info man-db says package does not exist....10:23
bettong_BOFHcan someone help me with a media player/keyboard isshue10:23
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binarydigitnot until you say what it is10:24
Hoxzercan I somehow make lm-sensors to show up my CPU tempature on the dekstop?10:24
Irvinehow to open wine folder?10:24
Toma-Hoxzer: with gdesklets you can10:24
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windowmakerHendikins, but i have heard of so many people who have fixed it, but every guide i follow doesn't work good for me, i've gone as far to get the sound worknig, but not in sync10:24
bettong_BOFHopen up a terminal and type cd .wine10:24
HoxzerToma-: I'm using Gnome ;/10:24
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intelikeyHoxzer if you can check it from cli you can make it display on the desktop10:24
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Toma-Hoxzer: gdesklets is for gnome10:25
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daskogodat: gona restart brb10:25
Hoxzeroh10:25
Jono_CTcan anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.10:25
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Hendikinswindowmaker: All I know is that the problem isn't with our (as in Firefox) code. I'm yet to see a cure-all fix myself.10:25
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Hoxzercan somebody tell me how to do this?10:26
kareljanif you have installed a package, where do you find it then?10:26
binarydigitkareljan: in the gnome menu , or just type the command10:26
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windowmaker=(10:27
kareljanI use de kde interface10:27
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binarydigitwell then it would be in the kde menu10:27
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kareljanany idea where? I have installed a vncserver10:27
Jono_CTcan anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.10:28
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binarydigitkareljan: try typing the command in a terminal10:28
kareljanI'm the newest newbie on the plannet10:28
intelikeywhat's that command to fix broken packages again ?10:28
Hendikinswindowmaker: I'll keep an eye out for a reliable fix and add it to PluginDoc if I see it. Sorry I couldn't help you right now though.10:29
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kareljanwhat would the command be?10:29
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binarydigitkareljan: try typing vnc and then hit tab and see if it autocompletes10:29
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daskogodat: there, now i have updatet and restarted10:30
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liablekareljan: kde normally comes with a vncserver, called remote desktop..10:30
Irvinehow to explore C:/ that wine created?10:30
fli7ewhere are temporary files stored? typically in the home folder?10:31
Hoxzercan somebody tell me how can I configure gdesklets10:31
liableIrvine: with a file manager? its in ~/.wine10:31
liableIrvine: or regedit10:31
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kareljanliable:  how do you set it to server?10:32
Irvineliable:how to open it?10:32
liablekareljan: look in the networking menu is there no remote desktop thingy there?10:32
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intelikeyIrvine nautilus browse to ~/.wine/10:32
topylifli7e: in /tmp typically.. sometimes in ~/tmp. some services store them in /var/tmp10:33
liableIrvine: its a hidden directory (show hidden files)10:33
kareljanliable:  no idea I'm new at linux. And I haven't find the way's yet10:33
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Jono_CTcan anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.10:34
liablekareljan: keep looking in menus..10:34
daskogOdat!!10:34
Irvineintelikey,then10:34
bettong_BOFHomg someone has built a linux powerd keg fridge O_o10:34
kareljanin the consome how do i  do somthing like cd in dos?10:34
HendikinsHrm. All googling does is get me acknowledgement from Macromedia that audio gets out of sync. Go figure.10:34
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Luna-TickHello all. I am prepared to donate US$20 to Ubuntu if I can find 5 others who are prepared to do so as well.10:34
liablekareljan: um.. cd? :P10:35
binarydigitkareljan: i suggest reading a linux basic tutorial before doing anything further10:35
odatdaskog, yea10:35
Tomcat_lol Luna-Tick.10:35
poningrukareljan: cd10:35
Tomcat_I wonder if I ever donated...10:35
poningru!bash10:35
ubotuFor a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands10:35
fli7etopyli, when does /tmp get emptied? automatically as needed?10:35
Luna-TickAny reason I got a laugh, tomcat?10:35
=== Hendikins would rather donate time than money, given he doesn't use Ubuntu, and his time is probably worth more than his money anyway
kareljanbinarydigit: where do i find the tutorial?10:35
poningrukareljan: follow that link10:35
kareljanok thanx10:35
Tomcat_Luna-Tick: It's a weird idea. Not bad of course.10:35
binarydigitkareljan: use your brain and search google10:35
daskogodat: ok10:35
ompaulkareljan, that ling that poningru just had the bot put on the screen10:35
daskognow what?10:35
Tomcat_Luna-Tick: I donated 25 EUR to Wikipedia lately, so I can't participate...10:36
intelikeyHendikins yes at least i have more time than money :)10:36
Luna-TickThere are a lot of people who keep saying they will and don't get around to it. I just thought that I would provide the impetus for those to actually do it :)10:36
Tomcat_Luna-Tick: Yeah it's certainly good. :)10:36
ompaulLuna-Tick, well given the resources of Mark Shuttleworth I would give it to the debian project or freenode or something10:36
Kindredi'm not sure Ubuntu is short on cash.. :|10:36
Hendikinsintelikey: My time has proven invaluable to the Mozilla folks, and I'm sure it can be useful around here in a related capcity.10:36
topylifli7e: apps should clean after themslelves unless they are buggy10:37
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ompaulLuna-Tick, the man behind it is worth the guts of a half a billion dollars10:37
fli7etopyli, thanks10:37
intelikeyHendikins i'm sure.10:37
Luna-TickSadly my programming skills aren't quite up to standard :(.10:37
Luna-TickOmpaul, that is true, but even the $20mill which he has put into it can't really sustain a complete OS10:37
odatdaskog, everything ok10:37
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bettong_BOFHHendikins, hey speakin of mozilla i have a problem that you might know of....how come when i click on a link in email or in well anything that isen't mozilla i have to copy and paste it into there? is there a way to fix it?10:38
topylifli7e: if you create something in your ~/tmp, then you'll be the one who gets to clean up too :)10:38
poningruLuna-Tick: you'd be surprised how little an os needs10:38
daskogyupp10:38
tronixMark did have other neat uses for USD $20M... a ride up to the space station. Lucky guy.10:38
Luna-TickAnd to my mind one man shouldn't finance something that everybody used.10:38
Luna-Tickponingru: Is that how little it needs, or how little it can survive on while still keeping an internet site ;)?10:39
Tomcat_Luna-Tick: Look at Wikipedia, how huge it is... and they need "only" about 1M USD per year. :)10:39
ompaulLuna-Tick, well wait until there is a call for cash in the mean time give the money to debian or freenode which also provide support to the project10:39
Hendikinsbettong_BOFH: That isn't a Mozilla problem. Check you Gnome and application settings, specifically the URL handler.10:39
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daskogodat: working fine10:39
Tomcat_Luna-Tick: Compared to Ubuntu, which is much smaller, ... :o10:39
poningrubettong_BOFH: thats a prob with gnome, make sure you have gnome browser default as mozilla10:39
poningruor what hendi said10:39
daskogThanks10:39
bettong_BOFHoh ok10:39
bettong_BOFHthank you very much10:39
Tomcat_Luna-Tick: You could give to Ubuntuforums.org... I did that once.10:39
Irvinehow to run applications that install in wine?10:39
ompaulLuna-Tick, after all hundreds of problems get answered here every day10:39
odatdaskog, did you get icon on the desktop yet?10:40
HendikinsLuna-Tick: I couldn't code my way out of a wet paper bag. Documentation for example can be vastly more helpful than code at times, and is a very thankless task10:40
Hendikinsponingru: evening10:40
Tomcat_Irvine: wine myapp.exe10:40
poningrumorning :)10:40
poningruI should really go to bed10:40
KarlosIIdang no help in samba10:40
daskogodat: what you mean icon?10:40
KarlosIIevery is dead atm10:40
odatdaskog, icons i mean10:40
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Luna-TickInteresting point, Hendikins. Perhaps I should look into that.10:40
poningruTomcat_: they dont even need that10:41
daskogodat, Im trying to pick up a nice theme but im not sure whats hot10:41
bettong_BOFHi have a question if i have .ogg files on my computer do i have to make them .mp3 to burn them to cd?10:41
poningruTomcat_: we are just starting to hire people10:41
odatdaskog, nuvola10:41
bettong_BOFHor can i switch everything over to .ogg10:41
Luna-Tickbettong: No10:41
daskogodat, found some nice icons thoe10:41
poningruTomcat_: but most of the bandwidth is donated, a large percent of the boxen were donated as well10:42
Luna-Tickbettong: You can use .oggs very well within Ubuntu10:42
topylibettong_BOFH: you mean to burn audio cds? they are made just as well from oggs10:42
odatdaskog, go into synaptic and install gnome theme extras and then select nuvola10:42
poningruwell after the last purchase a small percentage I guess10:42
Tomcat_poningru: Wikipedia? Yeah I was doing a pretty bad estimate there. :)10:42
poningruTomcat_: yeah hehe10:42
Jono_CTcan anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.10:42
bettong_BOFHawsome cause i have some video files and lost of music is there an easyer way to switch them over from .mp3/.wma to .ogg/whatever is good for video?10:42
poningruok I should really go to sleep10:43
Luna-Tickbettong: Creating an audio CD from .oggs should just be a drag-and-drop affair10:43
bettong_BOFHnice10:43
Luna-TickSerpintine should do it really well10:43
bettong_BOFHit seems that .ogg sounds somewhat better than mp3 to me10:43
bettong_BOFHthank you10:43
Luna-TickI wouldn't convert them10:43
topylibettong_BOFH: it sounds more free :)10:43
bettong_BOFHwhy not?10:43
Luna-TickYou are always best to preserve them in the original formats10:43
mjrbettong_BOFH, recoding existing mp3 and other files shouldn't usually be done; converting between lossy formats is bound to worsen the quality10:43
Luna-TickOtherwise you are10:44
Luna-TickThere you go ;)10:44
kareljancan anyone help?10:44
bettong_BOFHhmmm10:44
ompaul!anyone#10:44
ubotuompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:44
ompaul!anyone10:44
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>10:44
kareljanif i want to install something in /usr/local/bin it says that I have no permission10:44
mjrbettong_BOFH, ogg should be better, yes, when converted from the original non-lossy source10:44
topylibettong_BOFH: when you compressed to mp3, something was lost. when you convert the mp3 to ogg, something else will be lost. the end result will bw worse than either10:44
Luna-Tickbettong: different formats drop different parts of music to get to the smaller file, so if you do one then the other, then you lose both parts10:45
Luna-TickLOL10:45
bettong_BOFHi can't find that serpintine app in synaptic O_o10:45
odatdaskog, well i gotta go to bed  i would tell you how to totally setup your system but have the fun is discovery and conquest10:45
odatlol10:45
Luna-TickIt is part of Ubuntu 5.1010:45
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Luna-Tickserpentin10:45
Luna-Ticke10:45
kareljancan someone help me in a privatebox with an instalation10:45
Luna-Tickserpentine, not serpintine10:45
kareljan?10:45
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Luna-TickIf you use Breezy, I think it should just be in your sound and video menue10:46
ompaulkareljan, why not ask in the channel because no one knows if they can or can't until you ask the full question10:46
daskogodat, thank you so much10:46
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binarydigit!tell kareljan about anyone10:46
daskogodat, realy preciated it10:46
ompaulkareljan, and surprisingly enough that is what the channel is here for10:46
odatdaskog, no prob and seriously half the fun is discover and conquest  its all really cool and don't forget free lol10:47
daskogiknow10:47
odatsee ya10:47
daskogyupp bye10:47
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kareljancan someone tell me step by step what to do to install realvnc (www.realvnc.com)10:47
bettong_BOFHok i already have it due to automatix but i was wondering how to convert files already on the hard drive? from mp3 to ogg10:48
bettong_BOFHit seems that it's a cd burning app10:48
ompaul!automatix10:48
ubotumethinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!10:48
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bettong_BOFHhmm thats the first i have herd that10:48
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bettong_BOFHwhy is it a secrety flaw?10:48
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xxenonhello10:49
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xxenonwould it be possible to make-kpg linux-source-2.6.1x and install the .deb on a debian box ?10:49
bob_4_a_dayhowto close a screen in irssi-text ?10:49
ompaulbettong_BOFH, it sets a root password iirc10:50
Luna-TickI must confess that I am a little surprised at how negative people were towards donations. To me it is as good as any other way that one can help. They will use well whatever they get given and every little bit helps. Either way, it is better than other operating systems which I have paid many hundreds for, so I will throw a few dollars their way.10:50
vega-xxenon: sure10:50
bettong_BOFHomg10:50
ompaulbettong_BOFH, amountg other things10:50
kareljancan anyone help me with the installation?10:50
bettong_BOFHthat is horrible i will change that like right now or does it trash the box and i have to redoo it? >.<10:50
vega-and it install all pakcages with --force-all10:50
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vega-which is really stupid10:50
bettong_BOFHif i had known that i would have avoided it like windows10:50
ompaulkareljan, using synaptic install these xvncviewer vncserver10:50
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bob_4_a_dayanybody know howto close a screen in irssi-text ?10:51
TengkSAWhat program do you use to burn cds/dvds?10:51
GTswaggerQuirky question:  Where in the world can I find a tux stress ball?   There's NONE on eBay.   EVERY site I found on Google has like 150 qty minimums....10:51
kareljanompaul: where do I find synaptic? I'm brand new in linux10:51
HendikinsLuna-Tick: Money isn't a bad thing as such, there's just other ways to help that can be more effective than money.10:51
ompaulkareljan, the server is in the "repo" universe10:51
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topylibettong_BOFH: study the script and see what it does. you can then undo the worst stuff10:52
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HendikinsLuna-Tick: Even things like answering random questions in here helps, and it doesn't cost anything10:52
Madpilotkareljan: System menu - Admin - Synaptic10:52
topylibettong_BOFH: of course, you could have studied in advance :)10:52
ompaulkareljan, system administation synaptic10:52
Luna-TickFair call, Hendikins: I do my best to help in *all* the ways that I can :)10:52
kareljanompaul: can you guid me step by step i use the kde interface10:52
bettong_BOFHwell i seen it in the ubuntu forums so i thought it was safe10:52
ompaulkareljan, no I don't do kde have a look in #kubuntu10:52
HendikinsLuna-Tick: I'm just coming from the position of somebody who has provided valuable (and substantial) help to the Mozilla community without donating one brass razoo10:53
topylibettong_BOFH: forums can have anything10:53
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binarydigitkareljan: try using your eyeballs and exploring10:53
Luna-TickThen we are lucky to have you on-board :)10:53
bettong_BOFHtrue where can i find this automatix script?10:53
ompaulbettong_BOFH, well so much for your bofh attitude }:-> btw in a former life I was sirlartalot10:53
KarlosIIAny samba helpers here?10:53
Madpilotbettong_BOFH: there's all sorts of stuff in the forums...10:53
Hoxzercan somebody tell me howto enable sound server?10:53
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HendikinsLuna-Tick: My interest in this IRC channel stems from the fact it is one of the places that is friendly and doesn't immediately send users upstream.10:54
binarydigiti am surprised he was able to get on irc10:54
KarlosIIcome to #samba if u are able to help with samba issues, I need help and seems everyone is asleep in there10:54
bettong_BOFHompaul, lol so much for what? it runs fine so far i wasen't aware of the securety isshues thats all10:54
ompaulbettong_BOFH, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com both of these have the [cough]  canonical answers10:54
topyliheh. automatix seems to err on the safe side and installs absolutely everything. you end up with multiple browsers, media players, and generally a mess10:54
TengkSAWhat program do you use to burn cds / dvds??? ***********10:54
ompaultopyli, :-)10:55
bob_4_a_dayi'll come back when i can find an irc client.   this irssi is the s***s10:55
HendikinsKarlosII: Why not ask in here? This channel is somewhat of a catchall.10:55
ompaulTengkSA, nautilus10:55
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mjrTengkSA, nautilus (the burn:// location accessible from the menus), or gnomebaker10:55
HendikinsTengkSA: xcdroast/k3b, depending10:55
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KarlosIIHendikins: ok10:55
KarlosIIwhy is samba asking for username/domain/passwords when I try to access smb shares on my linux boxes from each other or a windows box?10:55
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KarlosIIwhy is samba asking for username/domain/passwords when I try to access smb shares on my linux boxes from each other or a windows box?10:55
TengkSAwhere does one find nautilus10:55
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ompaulKarlosII, well #samba has samba experts we are not that :-) some of us would not even use smb protocol because of its lineage10:56
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KarlosIIompaul: experts on hiatus atm and it was suggested in here that I ask here10:57
Luna-TickHendikins: Please don't take me as saying what you are doing isn't enough, it sounds like you help an awful lot! Personally I can't find the time to help out as much as I would like because I am working etc. So to me I like to 'top-up' my contribution with cash.10:57
bettong_BOFHi must have done something diffrent then as i only let it install what i needed10:57
Irvinehow to run warcraft iii in wine?10:57
Irvineanyone10:57
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topylibettong_BOFH: well, then all is fine10:58
ompaulTengkSA, if you put in a blank CD in the burner it will fire up nautilus or on the command line >>nautilus<< or menu places >>Computer<<10:59
bettong_BOFHi just used it because it took 20min off haveing to search for what i commonly use10:59
hyphenatedompaul: just as a bit of trivia, the SMB protocol was invented by IBM10:59
ompaulKarlosII, you may figure from my answer I know nothing of it10:59
bettong_BOFHi'm not a complete noob to linux anymore though there are some things i think i still need to learn10:59
KarlosIIompaul: :)11:00
ompaulhyphenated, and a bit of other trivia it is used to interoperate with an O/S I don't use :)11:00
ompaulhyphenated, I should learn something about it but I keep getting diverted11:00
KarlosIIyeah unfortunate that I have to interoperate with that o/s11:00
hyphenatedKarlosII: you should make sure you have the correct security level for the server. "Share" level seems to be the right one if you want to be able to see the shares without authenticating with the server first11:01
TengkSAompaul can u burn dvds with nautilus too11:01
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hyphenatedompaul: fair enough (to both points)11:01
KarlosIIhyphenated: and that is in smb.conf right?11:01
topylibettong_BOFH: yeah. after a clean install though, i let usage show what i need. "oh, i have no foo-bar and need it". apt-get install foo-bar :)11:02
Luna-TickYou can even burn CDs or DVDs by right clicking the desktop icon and clicking copy CD, if I remember correctly11:02
hyphenatedKarlosII: should be. personally, I'm a KDE weenie, and there's a frontend in the control center there.11:02
KarlosIIhaha11:02
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HendikinsLuna-Tick: I didn't say there was anything wrong with that, did I? Although it is useful to look around and see where the cash may be of most use.11:02
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ubuntu__Hello?11:02
bettong_BOFHright that what i do as well but over the last year in ubuntu i have learned what i need to run this box effectivly and keep the clutter down11:02
bettong_BOFH^_^11:02
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hyphenatedKarlosII: look for a line "security =" in your smb.conf11:03
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bettong_BOFHat first i installed everything i could and would ruin my box......no more ^_^.11:03
x9Ok, whaterver on my nick being protected.11:03
x9But, I have a problem.11:03
x9How do I remove an item from the applications menu?11:03
KarlosIIhyphenated: it's set to user11:03
topyliKarlosII: still fighting the samba daemons i see ;-)11:03
hyphenatedKarlosII: if it says "user" or "server" or somesuch, I imagine you'll get prompted11:04
KarlosIItopyli: yep, I'm getting there, i conquered some of them as u see11:04
topyliyeah, at least it works11:04
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KarlosIIhyphenated: k chnaging it to share11:04
x9Hmm11:04
TengkSAis there a way of putting bootfix for windows on a bootable cd and making it fix the boot instructions11:04
jazzmanhello, i have a complete newbie problem!11:05
Hendikinsjazzman: Shoot.11:05
topylijazzman: ask away11:05
hyphenatedKarlosII: there's different reasons for having different settings. the man page says "You should also use security = share if you want to mainly setup shares without a password (guest shares)."11:05
hyphenatedwhich I'm guessing is what you're after11:05
KarlosIIk11:05
Madpilotx9: right click on the Application menu, select Edit Menus11:05
jazzmanthnks. i have a folder on my desktop with a padlock on it. it is owned by root and i need to get rid11:06
jazzmani was trying to acess a 2nd hdd and i thought this would make a shortcut11:06
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TengkSAwhat program do you use to compress images to jpg format? ******11:07
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hyphenatedTengkSA: I use imagemagick tools :-)11:07
Madpilotjazzman: have a look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive11:07
Irvinehow to install opengl?11:07
jazzmanthnx11:07
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ompaulTengkSA, what is with the ** do you want to convert from some pictures - I use things like gimp for that11:07
hyphenatedthe command 'convert filename.blah filename.jpg' and it's done all magically for me.11:07
x9Madpilot, Thanks!11:07
HendikinsIrvine: Do you need to install 3D drivers? a'la nvidia/ATI drivers?11:08
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x9One other question.  Why is my video so slow?11:08
Irvineno11:08
bettong_BOFHis soundconverter a good app?11:08
HendikinsSo you're simply wanting to install the mesa libs or such like?11:08
TengkSAompaul no one answers my questions unless i put asterisks at the end :P umm no just when i save files i wanna save them as jpeg not png so they 2mb11:08
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Irvinehow to install it?11:09
bettong_BOFHso soundconverter is not a good app?11:09
OC_DoppelgangerI just installed 5.10 and I must say I'm VERY impressed... I had tried warthog and hedhog, but this is perfect :D11:09
TengkSAhyphenated,  what is the alternative for itunes11:09
MadpilotIrvine: do you have an Nvidia or ATI card?11:09
Irvineno11:09
HendikinsWhat card do you use then?11:09
hyphenatedTengkSA: *shrug* almost anything really11:09
OC_Doppelgangerfinally WPA and ipw2200 work flawlessly (afaik)11:10
TengkSAhyphenated, no to be able to update an ipod11:10
OC_Doppelgangersorry, I just had to say it :D11:10
Irvineno,how to check i am using which type of graphic card?11:10
hyphenatedI dunno. I don't have an ipod. my girlfriend does, but doesn't use linux11:10
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MadpilotIrvine: I'm still not sure what you mean...11:10
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Luna-TickiTunes equiv. is meant to be Rhythmbox11:11
topylibettong_BOFH: well, it does seem to convert sound files so i guess lives up to its promises :)11:11
bettong_BOFHok cool11:11
dimitriby mistake I put my top menu bar to the bean, how do I take it back ?11:11
IrvineMadpilot,i did not know the brands of my agp card11:11
hyphenatedTengkSA: apparently amaroK can do it, but it's a KDE tool, so you might need some unwanted crap to make it run11:11
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TengkSAhyphenated, how do u run imagemagick ive installed it through synaptic11:12
SteilTengkSA, gtkpod11:12
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone11:12
x9Is gtkpod safe?11:12
dimitrianyone please ?11:13
hyphenatedTengkSA: from a shell11:13
Steilx9, I use it, it works fine11:13
TengkSASeveas!!!11:13
TengkSAhyphenated, now how do i do that11:13
Luna-Tickdimitri, I don't quite understand, sorry11:13
dimitriLuna-Tick: I have put my menu bar (at the top) in the bean, so I don't have it anymore11:14
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Luna-TickIn the rubbish bin?11:14
hyphenatedTengkSA: I'm not about to teach you how to use a shell right now. find it and play with it, if you're interested11:14
dimitriLuna-Tick: well I think, since it happened when I was cleaning my desktop and I don't have my menu bar anymore11:14
MadpilotIrvine: try taking the side of your case apart?11:15
topyliTengkSA: it depends on what you want to do. to convert an image, use convert. to iimport a screenshot, use import. and so on11:15
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Luna-TickTenkSA: Applications > Accessories > Terminal11:15
x9ubuntu is cool.11:15
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dimitrihow can I do to reset my xserver then ?11:15
bettong_BOFHx9 you have no idea how cool it can actually be ^_^11:15
dimitrior is it my session ?11:15
TengkSASteil, can i run gtkpod without having to use any commands11:16
x9bettong_BOFH, oh?11:16
x9All I know is that I'm running a LiveCD on my iBook and am doing everything that I normaly would under OS X.11:16
Luna-TickTengkSA: Then you would type in the command - It could be "imagemagick" or whatever11:17
dimitriLuna-Tick: can you help me ?11:17
strohit is recommend to uptade all updates ?11:17
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TengkSASteil,  can i run gtkpod without using commands11:17
bettong_BOFHx9 i have been useing ubuntu for about a year now and have found it to far exceed everything windows can do....it has not failed to impress me on a dayly basis....or quit working (unless i did something really dumb)11:17
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topylidimitri: i didn't know you can put panels in the trash. but anyway, you can create a new one to replace the deleted one11:17
Irvineok11:18
KarlosIIhyphenated: thanks problem solved, side question is the samba shares isolated from outside the network, as I dun even know whow to tell that ie outside the router on the wan11:18
dimitritopyli: yes for the panel but this does not seem to apply for the top menu bar11:18
bettong_BOFHx9 if you are a new user it will take some time to get used to....but it's worth every moment spent learning ^_^11:18
dimitriis there not a way to reset the session or whatever11:18
x9bettong_BOFH, I'm a debian fanboy and have been for years, but the ease of use for ubuntu is impressive.11:18
topylidimitri: it's just another panel11:18
Madpilotdimitri: the menus are another panel bar item, right click on the panel & find the menu item11:18
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Luna-TickYou can delete all your settings etc. by deleting the folder in Home, I think11:19
topylidimitri: oh, i think Madpilot understood your question better than me11:19
Luna-TickThat would reset your menus AFAIK11:19
bettong_BOFHx9 i know it's one of like 5 i have tryed and i just stoped trying when i found it ^_^ it just fit me and my needs perfectly (i think if they ever did charge  would pay for it)11:19
dimitriLuna-Tick: which folder ?11:19
bettong_BOFHit's just that good ^_^11:19
Luna-TickGood Question.... I am trying to figure that out...11:20
dimitriI have tried to do it with .gnome*11:20
dimitribut still11:20
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topylidimitri: don't delete anything. just add a "menu bar" to your top panel11:20
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dimitritopyli: ok11:20
x9bettong_BOFH, I set my gf up with ubuntu and she had never used linux before.  She's doing very, very well :)11:21
Madpilotdimitri: right-click, choose Add To Panel, add the Menu Bar item - move it around until it's where you need it11:21
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dimitriMadpilot: actually, I can't move it at the top as it seems that my menu bar is still there but transparent !11:22
Luna-TickOh. Thanks Madpilot. I didn't realise that that was the full default set!11:22
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dimitrithis is annoying, I have to put everything back there !11:23
Madpilotdimitri: what happens when you right-click on where your menu bar should be?11:23
dimitriMadpilot: I have the same menu as if I click on the panel below11:23
aftertafx9:  nice one mate :] 11:24
dimitriI have managed to make it appears again but there is nothing in it!11:24
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dimitrihow can I get my nice ubuntu logo ?!11:24
Madpilotdimitri: I think that comes with the menu set11:24
SteilTengkSA, gtkpod will appear in the applications menu under Sound & Video11:24
TengkSAcool it works thanks Steil11:24
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dimitriMadpilot: you are right ! thanks11:25
topylix9: it depends on what they want to do. a new colleague needed a computer. i asked what she needed to do. "write articles, surf the web and read email." so i set her up with ubuntu and she's a happy camper11:25
x9I bet.11:25
x9I'm very impressed.11:25
dukebodyi have problems with sound in skype, it says my device is busy, i followed ubuntu guide and set alsa as my sound driver but it doesn't work11:25
HendikinsThat's a point I have difficulty making to people about Linux11:25
Steildukebody, kill esd11:26
x9The only trouble she had setting it up was due to a scratched install CD and her monitor only doing 640x480 till I manualy fixed xf86config.11:26
MadpilotHendikins: the "it really does just work" point? :P11:26
HendikinsMadpilot: No, the "If you're starting from zero, *anything* is going to have a learning curve" point, when it comes to giving people new to computers Linux11:26
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topyliMadpilot: what i mean is, she didn't say "to do qualitative discourse analysis with Atlas.ti and graphically browse Netware servers" :-)11:27
x9lol11:27
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MadpilotHendikins: IME there's as much of a learning curve from Win98 to WinXP as from Win to Ubuntu...11:28
HendikinsMadpilot: I'm not entirely sure. I'm more talking about people who haven't used Windows in the first place.11:29
MadpilotHendikins: yeah, if they're really starting from zero, that's different11:30
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topylithere's a learning curve from win98 to win98-in-another-day because you never know how it works today11:30
Madpilot"Microsoft: How Shall We Crash Today?" :P11:31
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Hobbseehehe @ Madpilot11:31
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Vensonor the optimistic "How many times shall we reboot today?"11:32
topylignome-bluetooth is still strange though. sometimes it works well, sometimes not11:33
MadpilotVenson: at least once every time you install something, no matter how trivial it is - even Acrobat Reader on Win wants to restart the machine... :P11:33
topylihard to upgrade either, it seems to depend on almost everything :)11:33
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TichoMadpilot: of course this is not true for windows xp - it requires much less restarts than previous windows versions11:33
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rob1Madpilot, doing remote support and having the pc rebooting after installing a trivial piece of software is pretty painful, although windows is not doing it as much these days, and even less so with vista11:34
MadpilotTicho: actually, it was Acroread on XP that wanted the restart!11:34
Ngwant or need? also, this is waaay off-topic ;)11:34
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rob1billy gates11:35
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MadpilotVenson: it's MS, it's the biggest target going :P11:35
Madpilotanyway, I need sleep - good night, all11:35
Vensonright11:35
NgVenson: one would hope that people would grow up and stop feeling a need to pick on things11:35
TengkSAHow do you make your menu.lst file not Read only?11:36
HobbseeVenson: the crashes and BSoD's that occur when the machine FUBAR's from *not* being rebooted recently11:36
Vensonlol11:36
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NgTengkSA: use sudo to edit it :)11:36
Vensonstability and price, then11:36
TengkSANg,  I wanna use gedit!11:36
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HobbseeTengkSA: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:37
lucasvoTengkSA: then use gksudo gedit blaaa11:37
Vensonyou don't gedit just coz you wandit11:37
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TengkSAok11:37
topyliTengkSA: don't fiddle with the permissions of system files whatever you do11:37
TengkSAok11:37
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TengkSAcan someone help me with boot instructions for windows on ubuntu please.... in prvt11:38
topylisudo will give you enough power to break them comfortably11:38
ibaibhi11:38
nevillecan someone tell me where i can find w32codecs? are there linux-mirrors for it?11:38
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Hobbsee!tell neville about w32codecs11:38
TengkSAPlease someone help with boot instructions!!11:40
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mrpinkhi everybody11:42
mrpinkfist of all11:42
mrpinka happy new year to all11:43
KarlosII2 days late :P11:43
mrpinki know:)11:43
mrpinkan iam realy sorry11:43
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KarlosIIlol11:43
mrpinkdoes anybody nknow if tre are w32 debs. for amd 64?11:43
Vensondoubt it11:44
topylimrpink: no, they are w32 after all11:44
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teroednihello trying to eject a live cd11:44
topylimrpink: you'll have to try and do with gstreamer11:44
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ompaulteroedni, it ejects when you tell it to shut down11:45
Dashivathere's a way you can do it11:45
mrpinktopyli: i tried but i do not work11:45
Dashivabut it involves installing 32bit mplay in a chroot jail11:45
Dashiva*mplayer11:45
ibaibi have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?11:45
teroedniis there a way i can put the system in ram so i can eject the cd11:45
topylimrpink: you installed gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg?11:45
teroednii need to burn a iso11:46
mrpinktopyli: yes11:46
topylimrpink: that's good as you get :(11:46
mrpinkhmm11:46
topylimrpink: you can do the chroot magik like Dashiva says11:46
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bettong_BOFHx9 thats awsome ^_^11:46
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mrpinkdo you have a link11:46
mrpink?11:46
Dashivaum11:47
Dashivayou might actually check the gentoo forums11:47
mrpinkbrb11:47
vermoosgood morning11:47
Dashivathey do a lot of that sort of stuff11:47
teroedniis there no possibility to eject the cd?11:47
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Inf3ctedFxhey ppl I have a question, netscape and firefox.. what is the big diference beside desing11:47
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mrpinkthx Dashiva and topyli11:48
ibaibHELP! i need somebodiii help11:48
Hobbsee!tell ibaib about ask11:48
Inf3ctedFxibaib: what do u need?11:48
ibaibi have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?11:48
topyliInf3ctedFx: netscape is based on old mozilla communicator code, firefox is a whole new standalone browser11:48
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Inf3ctedFxoohh oks but netscape is good also right? topyli11:49
Ce_Dreakuhello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition11:49
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cvogelhi, does anyone know how to compile a .a/.so library with gcc?11:49
topyliInf3ctedFx: i guess (haven't used it). it's probably full of aol and netscape branding and other annoyances. it also probably has some proprietary goodies11:49
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teroedniPlease:Does anyone knows what i should do11:50
Inf3ctedFxyes, I'm testing it right now and is full of goodies lol11:50
Ce_Dreakuhello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition11:50
teroednii have downloaded a iso and need to burn it11:50
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teroednibut the livecd is in the burner and i cant eject it11:50
topyliteroedni: you can eject cd's yes. what's the problem?11:50
Inf3ctedFxand iso for what teroedni11:50
ibaibi have putted my mac's ip address as "anfitrin" on the ubuntu's network configuration11:51
topyliteroedni: oh the live cd. no, you can't eject it i guess11:51
Vensoncvogel something like gcc foo.c -o foo.so11:51
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teroednix_x11:51
cvogelthanks, Venson11:51
teroedniim srewed then11:51
topyliteroedni: i'd use sysresccd or another smaller live cd that fits into memory and doesn't need to read the cd all the time11:52
ibaibhey anyone can help me?11:52
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teroednieject11:52
teroedniups sorry11:53
Inf3ctedFxok brb11:53
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sunrexhows it going anything new happen11:53
bettong_BOFHibaib whats up?11:53
ibaibi repeat11:53
ibaibsorry11:53
ibaibi have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?11:53
teroednilol that was really easy11:53
ibaibi have putted my mac's ip address as "anfitrin" on the ubuntu's network configuration but nothing11:54
teroednijust neede to run root then eject11:54
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NoWhereMan2.6.15 is out and looks like conexant usb driver is supported ^^ does anubody know when it will be available on ubuntu repos?11:54
bettong_BOFHactually to be honist i have never networked a mac and ubuntu toghether although i am haveing the same isshue with ubuntu and the wifes windows box11:54
ibaibmmm11:55
sunrexanything new out11:55
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HobbseeNoWhereMan: dapper11:55
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eksajmhello, where can i find nonfree unrar?11:55
NoWhereManHobbsee, already out?11:55
topyliteroedni: it ejected? now, i'm still afraid you can't run anything (like a cd creator) because the system will want to read it from the cd11:55
Hobbsee!tell NoWhereMan about dapper11:56
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NoWhereManHobbsee, yeah, but I meant if it were already out on dapper repos :P11:57
Hobbseeyeah, it's been in dapper for ages...11:57
NoWhereManhuh :D11:57
sunrexwhats dapper11:57
NoWhereMangood to hear11:57
teroednitopyli yes it ejected >root terminal eject11:57
NoWhereManhuh here's another :P11:57
teroednineed to download gnomebaker:P11:57
nevillehi, where can i find the .deb for realplayer? is there one?11:57
NoWhereMan!tell sunrex anout dapper11:57
NoWhereMan!tell sunrex about dapper11:57
topyliteroedni: all you need to burn an iso is nautilus11:58
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Ngdapper is released in April, don't use it until then11:58
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teroednitopyli:Nautilus cant11:59
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joschahi12:00
wildthinghi12:00
NoWhereManHobbsee, but 2.6.15 has been yesterday, how could it be on dapper for so long O_o :P12:00
wildthingi need some help12:00
topyliteroedni: can't burn a cd? i burn all my cds with it12:00
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Ce_Dreakuhello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition12:00
HobbseeNoWhereMan: there was a...beta version of it, i think - it wasnt official, and kept getting updated12:00
NoWhereManhuh ok I see12:00
liableNg: then who files bugs? :)12:01
wildthingi 've just discovered ubuntu and i want to install qt on it12:01
moodogMorning all :)12:01
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teroednitopyli:From where12:01
eksajmin what archive can i find unrar nonfree?12:01
nevillehey, there has to be a legal (and clean) way to install realplayer!? come on12:01
topyliteroedni: right click on the iso, choose "burn"12:01
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wildthinghey guys can u help me12:01
topylior write, or whatever12:01
NoWhereManneville, maybe universe repository?12:02
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Blaxtermaybe12:02
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NoWhereManneville, i meant MULTiverse12:02
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olicatany ideas how i can get openoffice base to open an mdb file? or are there any apps that can do it?12:02
Ngliable: as a general rule of thumb, if you need to ask about the development branch, you don't want to be running it12:02
Blaxteror dl the installer @ web12:02
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topylieksajm: it's in multiverse12:02
philippe__Hi there12:03
wildthingwhere is the .profile plz?12:03
philippe__Happy new year12:03
teroednitopyli:THanks dident see that12:03
eksajmokey read the conversation above, and had never heard of it before. thanks mate12:03
topyliteroedni: doesn't get much easier does it :)12:03
NoWhereManneville, there it is http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/realplayer12:03
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olicatany ideas how i can get openoffice base to open an mdb file? or are there any apps that can do it?12:04
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HendikinsNoWhereMan: 8.0? Are you nuts?12:04
eksajmHendikins, have you read the wiki on codecs?12:05
NoWhereManHendikins, lol didn't see the ver :P12:05
teroednino true12:05
eksajmi think there is a topic of realplayer12:05
topyliolicat: your patience lasts 1 min 20 seconds12:05
eksajmbut i doubt you'd like what is says12:05
teroedniunfortunally it doesnt run without live cd:(12:05
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moodogneville: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:05
Hendikinseksajm: I don't need to install RealPlayer. I don't even use Ubuntu. neville is the one with the problem.12:05
topyliolicat: if you mean access databases, no openoffice cannot open them12:05
olicattopyli, it goes down in 20 second increments12:05
topyli:)12:05
olicatdamn12:05
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L-seiferhello12:06
topyliolicat: you may find some conversion scripts on freshmeat.net12:06
olicati'll have a look, ta12:06
eksajmmoodog, thats the wiki i talked about12:06
nevillethank you, NoWhereMan. Hope it will work now.12:06
spikehsome applications such as VLC media player have a horrid monospace font, is it possible to change this?12:06
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moodogeksajm: just though pointing to the correct page might help.  I'll ignore the fact that that page is the first response on google if you type "ubuntu realplayer"12:07
L-seifercould somebody please instruct me how to troubleshoot my X11 problem on Ubuntu Breezy, after building the native NVIDIA driver for 2.6.12, i get on startx "no screens found". and i cant seem to fix it after using the same entries that work on debian unstable12:07
teroednitopyli:What is the burn command in terminal?12:08
moodog;)12:08
TengkSAWhat is the Boot Master program for Ubuntu and how do I access it?12:08
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TengkSASeveas,  are u there?12:08
teroedniim not giving up yet12:08
morphixhmm...12:08
sirexTengkSA: /boot/grub12:08
morphixhow do i find out where openssl installation is?12:08
moodogL-seifer: what does lsmod | grep nvidia return ?12:09
topyliteroedni: cdrecord -dev=XXXX -speed=XXX file.iso (or something. i always have to read the man page)12:09
morphixi KNOW its installed.. but during compile.. the script cant seem to find it :(12:09
NgL-seifer: you don't need to build the driver, it's available in the linux-restricted-modules package12:09
L-seifermoodog, the module is loaded12:09
TengkSADoes anyone know a lot about booting windows once ubuntu is installed? i would really appreciate if someone could help me12:09
blue-frogolicat, u can use use msaccess with openoffice read their faq on the websirte12:09
L-seiferNg, but not the latest available version12:09
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spikehsome applications such as VLC media player have a horrid monospace font, is it possible to change this?12:10
sirexTengkSA: boot loader on ubuntu is grub, config you can find on /boot/grub/menu.lst12:10
moodogL-seifer: I assume you have Driver "nvidia" in the device sextion of your xorg.conf ?12:10
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blue-frogtopyli, openoffice2 opens msaccess...12:11
L-seifermoodog, yes12:11
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TengkSAsirex,  but can you help me with adding windows to that list12:11
topyliblue-frog: it does?12:11
blue-frogyes12:12
topyliblue-frog: nice. i guess :)12:12
sirexTengkSA: if windows was intalled when you install ubuntu, then windows automaticali apears in that list..12:12
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TengkSAsirex,  it doesnt12:12
topyliolicat: see blue-frog's good news12:12
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philippe__Hi there, should someone give me some help for my printer ?12:13
sirexTengkSA: well, then just google for it and you find what you want, I thing there only need to add partition and its all..12:13
TengkSAsirex, what do i search for?12:14
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sirexTengkSA: search query: grub ubuntu menu.lst12:14
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NabikiAnyone know the status of wifi under linux? ^_^ heheheh :P12:15
vega-philippe__: nobodys going to help someone who asks for "help", just ask a specific question to a specific problem...12:15
topyliNabiki: yeah. i don't have it12:16
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morphixhow do i find out where openssl 'binary' is installed?? i need it to compile this app.12:16
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Ngmorphix: "which openssl"12:17
Ngmorphix: probably /usr/bin/12:17
couleursalu12:17
blue-frogtopyli, olicat the faq on ooo is for oo1 for oo2 it's even simpler to use mdb, just follow the wizard of oo base..12:17
couleurhow are you12:17
nevillesh... that realplayer-package is for 32 bit - i got amd64... is there a pack which fits12:18
neville sh... that realplayer-package is for 32 bit - i got amd64... is there a pack which fits?12:18
moodogneville: think we heard you the first time12:18
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nevillejust some lines above: (.deb pack for realplayer)12:19
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grantashmanHey all.12:22
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grantashmanAnyone have any clue on how to change the resolution/refresh rate on GDM/Login Screen?12:22
morphixi dont get this.12:22
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TengkSAwhats that command for terminal to see all of your hard drives and partitions12:22
sirexTengkSA: sudo fdisk -l12:23
intelikeythis is really sad.  i can't install gpm_1.19.6ubuntu.deb  with apt-get install it errors out with dpkg it errors out....12:23
morphixn12:23
morphixNG: SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/bin/".12:23
vega-TengkSA: cat /proc/partitions12:23
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morphixdoing 'which openssl' gives /usr/bin/openssl12:23
morphix:(12:23
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TengkSAsirex,  can i talk to u in private please im just a bit confused i need to paste a few lines12:24
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Dark-boyei12:25
Dark-boyalguem pod da uma ajuda??12:25
intelikeydid any of you know that /proc had to be mounted for console mouse to work ?12:25
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Ngintelikey: /proc needs to be mounted for a lot of things to work :)12:27
Nggenerally it should always be mounted12:27
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intelikeyNg it needs to be umounted to secure this system.12:27
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Ngerr12:28
Ngno :)12:28
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voipboxhallo12:28
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intelikeyok i think that's everything....12:28
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intelikeybe back in a few.12:29
Ngintelikey: if you are thinking that unmounting /proc is going to secure something that has a mouse, you're wrong, I'd say ;)12:29
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voipboxhi everybody12:29
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TengkSAwhen i use the fdisk command it says my 80gb hard drive is hda2 but in my Places -> Computer  HDA1 is my 80gb hard drive? is it just the way that it has been mounted12:31
moodoghda is the disk12:32
moodog1&2 are partions12:32
TengkSAoh sorry i never saw hdb is the 80gb12:32
hunikahello12:32
hunikahelp me12:32
TengkSAmoodog,  so therefore in my boot settings if windows is in hda2 would i set it to be12:33
hunikahow do i disable my firewall?12:33
TengkSAmoodog, root (hd0,1)12:33
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liablehunika: you dont have one.. (unless you installed one)12:33
moodogwindows tends to want to be the first partion on the first disk.12:34
hunikaliable: I have installed something12:34
moodoghunika: which firewall do you have?12:34
hunikaliable: KMyFirewall12:34
liablehunika: so uninstall it?12:34
hunikaliable: now i can not disable it12:34
liablehunika: or learn how to use it?12:34
hunikaliable: if i uninstall it12:34
moodoghunika: what do the docs say?12:34
tahorghunika: try a $iptables -F12:34
hunikaliable: my net does not worls12:35
tahorgs/\$//12:35
TengkSAmoodog, how do i do a virtual swap between the 2 partitions12:35
hunikatahorg: where? how?12:35
tahorghunika: forget.12:35
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hunikatahord: how can i shut down it? simply?12:35
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liablehunika: there must be a menu thingo for it.. turn it off..12:35
moodogTengkSA: not sure what you want to do... sorry "virtual swap?"12:35
hunikano there is not just uninstall12:35
theturtlanyone know if there is a guide to tomcat5 on ubuntu?12:36
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TengkSAi saw it on this one help site so it makes windows think that my first partition has windows and 2nd has ubuntu12:36
hunikaliable: and if i uninstall it than my net does not works\12:36
tahorghunika: explain "my net doesn't work"12:36
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hunikatahorg: I can not connect to the internet, I can not open a website, I can not chat with yo12:37
hunikau12:37
liablehunika: i havent ever used it, sorry i guess i'll leave you in better hands..12:37
hunikaliable: somebody told me that i should install a firewall and i installed it and now12:37
stark-johanis there a antivirus program for ubuntu that's "the" antivirus program or will I just have to find my favourite? I'd love some tips anyhow.12:38
liablehunika: but if it is a ubuntu package, and you uninstall it, and it breaks the network, then its broken...12:38
bimberistark-johan: clam-av seems to get recommended a lot12:38
hunikaliable: what should i do, how should i uninstall it?12:38
liablehunika: how did you install it to start with?12:38
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intelikeygpm is broken.  and yes i tried it with /proc mounted also.12:39
hunikaliable: I installed with adept package manager.12:39
TengkSAmoodog,           grub> map (hd0) (hd1)12:39
TengkSA          grub> map (hd1) (hd0)12:39
TengkSAhow do i carry out those commands12:39
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teroednitopyli:Thanks for your help, unfortunally this livecd wont work. ut thanks for your time:12:39
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teroedni:)12:40
moodogTengkSA: grub> would suggest you run them from the grub console.12:40
moodogso type sudo grub?12:40
theturtlAnyone ever installed Tomcat on ubuntu?12:40
liablehunika: apt-get?? so uninstall it with it too. sorry, i am off to bed. good luck12:40
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topyliteroedni: get a little floppy distro like tomsrtbt and burn the install iso with it12:41
chemaFPAHi, im try to isnsall samba with swat, but swat dont work, in Debian swat use /etc/inetd.conf but in Ubuntu this file is empty. How to do to init swat and samba in Ubuntu?12:41
topyliteroedni: then you'll have a working system in no time12:41
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TTilusmoodog: no, grub boot prompt i think12:41
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TengkSAgiving me an error while parsing number message12:42
teroednitopyli:I dont do floppy12:42
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NoWhereManHi12:42
intelikeyand i've got another question.  why is tty1 hosed on ubuntu ?12:42
NoWhereManI've just updated to 2.6.15 from dapper and my usb moded worx ^^12:42
teroednitopyli:I trowed away evryone i have12:42
morphixhow do i find out where openssl is installed?? i need it to compile this app.12:42
NoWhereMannow I've got this issue: I don't see the boot splash anymore12:43
topyliteroedni: don't have or don't do? it would be better to have the cd free when you're burning stuff :)12:43
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intelikeymorphix dpkg can tell you  man dpkg12:43
teroednidont have12:43
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teroednionly on a windows pc, but that is mission impossible12:43
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SirKillalotdo you know any sound converster which can change mp3 bitrate of a track?12:43
SirKillalotconverter*12:44
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topyliteroedni: perhaps you need to borrow somebody else's machine for a while then12:44
intelikeySirKillalot sox might12:44
topyliteroedni: or see if you can find a nice usb stick distro to do your burning on12:44
teroednitopyli:Yes i have usb disk:D12:45
teroednianyway i put the livecd in dvd now12:45
teroedni:)12:45
topyliteroedni: sounds like a plan :)12:46
teroedniyea but i have to download again><12:46
intelikeyanybody ever investigate what it is that messes up the fonts on tty1 ?12:46
teroedniTopyli:Thanks for the help:)12:46
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topylihappy hacking12:47
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kino-takGoodyear and Michelin everybody!!!!12:48
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Seveaskino-tak, doh :p12:53
kino-tak:-)12:54
kino-takDoes anybody know any good H323 client for ubuntu?12:54
topylithe year is very old. so old in fact that i've already paid the bills due at the end of last year :)12:55
Ngkino-tak: gnome meeting?12:55
topylignomemeeting is about all we have12:55
Ngohphone claims to be an h323 client12:56
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Seveaskino-tak, H323?12:59
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utadahello , i just installed ubuntu breezy dual booting with winxp, and i get shortcuts on my gnome desktop to those xp partitions, but i don't want to access those via ubuntu, how do i make them go away?01:02
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teroednilive cd wont mount the other cdrom01:03
teroednihrmf01:03
utadait's not a live cd01:03
utadai actually installed it01:03
utadaand i'm dual booting with winxp01:03
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morphixutada.. unmount them.01:04
utadai just wanna unmount and get rid of those shortcuts, cuz i don't intend to access those xp partitions via ubuntu01:04
utadahow?01:04
morphixyou know 'where' they are mounted?01:04
utadahd101:04
utadahda101:04
morphixif they show up on ur desktop then usually they are mounted in /media/*01:05
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Belutzcheck the /etc/fstab01:05
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utadait won't delete them or anything if i unmount them wouldn't it?01:05
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Belutzno, it won't delete them01:06
utadai can find /etc/fstab01:06
morphixthis is bullcrap..01:06
utadai mean i CAN'T find /etc/fstab01:07
Belutzmorphix, are you in sydney?01:07
morphixi installed openssl to /usr/loca/ssl .. but during compile it says that its NOT installed there01:07
morphix:@01:07
morphixBelutz: i01:07
morphixi'm* 2 hours from there01:07
Belutzmorphix, i see01:07
morphixcentral coast01:07
morphixwhy?01:07
Belutzmorphix, i just have been there :p01:07
morphixcool.01:07
utadaplease how do i unmount them?01:07
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hat!w32codecs01:08
ubotumethinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:08
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Belutzutada, do you want to unmount them permanently?01:08
pa_lHi, when configuring sip-4.3.2, where do i set the QTDIR enviroment variable to?01:08
utadayes i do belutz01:08
utadai have no intention of accessing my windows partitions via ubuntu ever01:09
Belutzutada, with your terminal type sudo nano /etc/fstab01:09
utadaok i did01:10
Belutzutada, and remove the line that has /media/*01:10
utada/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       001:10
utada/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       001:10
utadajust remove them?01:10
Belutzhmm01:10
morphixhda5 = swap partition01:10
utadai don't see a line that says media01:10
morphixoh wait no01:10
morphixoops.01:10
utada# /etc/fstab: static file system information.01:10
utada#01:10
utada# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>01:10
utadaproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       001:10
utada/dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       101:10
utada/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       001:11
utada/dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       001:11
utada/dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       001:11
Belutzyup, but in case you need them... just add # in the front of the line01:11
utada/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:11
utada/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:11
utadasorry01:11
Belutzutada, please don't paste in here01:11
utadasorry :(01:11
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utadawon't removing those line delete them completly?01:11
Mabus06comment them out, or backup the file01:11
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Mabus06or both01:11
Belutz just add # in the front of the  /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5 line01:11
utadaoh ok01:11
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utadathanx01:11
utadano but i mean01:12
utadawill i be able to load xp if i want to?01:12
kemikyes01:12
Belutzyou still be able to boot to windows xp01:12
utadathanx01:12
stark-johanI've installed clamAV but Im not sure on how to update it using freshclam, the synaptic package seems to be outdated (according to freshclam)01:12
utadai'll try it out01:12
Mabus06I don't know, I just started reading now, don't really know what I'm looking at. ;-)01:12
Mabus06but yeah, backup the file01:12
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SillyZmornin01:13
SillyZneed a little vmware help, I config it via vmware-config.pl, and after the config completes successfully, i try to run it and it says its not configured??.... any ideas? ( ubuntu breezy 5.1 )01:13
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topylidoesn't vmware have some support that actually knows something about vmware?01:14
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morphixthis is really pissing me off. can someone plz help me with this compiling.. it says ssl installed but binary NOT where i KNOW it is.01:15
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Mabus06there are often "die" lines or something equivalent in config files that you have to remove... to make sure you've completely configured01:16
Seveasmorphix, apt-get install libssl-dev01:16
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bettong_BOFHi'm starting to think that mozillas spam filters suck >.<01:16
Seveas!tell morphix about compiling01:16
Mabus06agreed, bettong_BOFH01:16
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Mabus06Well.. more like, spammers have more money to develop ways of spamming you, than mozilla has to protect you from it.01:17
Belutzbettong_BOFH, mozilla thunderbird?01:17
bettong_BOFHyea01:17
bettong_BOFHi had 33 emails and all where spam01:17
bettong_BOFHfor some reason they think i need bigger boobs O_o01:17
bettong_BOFHi don't think they realize that i am a guy lol01:17
bettong_BOFHmorons01:17
topylibettong_BOFH: fetchmail/procmail/spamassassin might do a better job01:17
Mabus06Oh I thought you meant the popup blocker.01:17
Belutzbettong_BOFH, i see, have you tried thunderbird 1.5 rc ?01:17
Mabus06Use gmail.01:18
stupidclientoh ok ... was gonna say is possable to a server on ubuntu but looks like its been answered01:18
methocan i ask u really noob question, (its about firewall), i just installed firehole or something using Synaptic but i dont know where it is installed!!!! could u help me!01:18
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Mabus06Only spam that gets through to me is when the sender part is forged to someone in my address book.01:18
stupidclient*to run a server01:18
SillyZtopyli, thanks but I think I found the answer : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare    for anyone else who wants to know01:18
bettong_BOFHi'm useing 1.0.701:18
Mabus06metho, whats it called? firestarter?01:18
BelutzMabus06, my gmail still accepting spams :p01:18
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methomabus06. i think its called firehole01:19
Mabus06try typing "firehole" at a terminal01:19
bettong_BOFHso what would you reccomend Belutz for a good email app thats gonna get rid of this spam?01:19
Mabus06or go to places > search... type firehole01:19
topylimetho: where did you get it? nothing like that on the repos01:19
Mabus06why do you need to know "where it's installed" though?01:19
Belutzbettong_BOFH, well, i only use sylpheed-claws to pop my email from gmail, cause i don't have any other pop enabled email01:20
methomabus06. sorry its called firehol01:20
bettong_BOFHit's driveing me nut's is there some way to like filter emails by putting addresses in from only those you wish to receve mail from?01:20
bettong_BOFHoh ok01:20
stupidclientcheers anyway......bye bye01:20
Mabus06why do you need to know where it's installed, metho ?01:20
bettong_BOFHso like if the people are not on my list i don't get the mail?01:20
morphixstill doesnt help01:21
intelikeyis there anyway to fix the consoles in ubuntu ?01:21
methomabus06. so i can configure or i may want to know what it is blocking or what isnt!!!01:21
morphixi HAVE openssl.01:21
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Mabus06try running the program...01:21
Mabus06or read man firehol01:21
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topylimetho: ok, it seems like a simple firewall script. the config file is probably somewhere under /etc/firehol, and the init script in /etc/init.d01:21
Mabus06as I said, search for files, type firehol01:21
methotopyli: oh i see: isnt there a GUI firewall for ubuntu 5.1001:22
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topylimetho: sure. firestarter01:22
Mabus06firestarter01:22
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Mabus06this ain't XP though, I've gotten along fine without a firewall01:22
methotopyli: thanks, i'll install that!01:23
topylimetho: do you have a reason to fiddle with firewalls?01:23
methotopyli: not really m8, i just read somewhere that Linux isnt that secure anymore so i decided to protect my data (thats all)01:24
bettong_BOFHso is there a way to filter email by a list that has only those people you want to receve emails from?01:24
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topylimetho: tha't hogwash01:24
topyli*that's01:24
McJerrymorphix: you still got problem?01:24
magraojoin #ubuntu-br01:25
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methotopyli: lol01:25
Hendikinsmetho: and a certain OS that has a WMF flaw is secure? :P01:25
topylimetho: protecting your data is good of course. firewalls don't help you with it one bit though01:25
Hendikins(and they reckon that WMF flaw may go back as far as Win 3.0 too)01:25
Belutzbettong_BOFH, maybe you should manually create the filters one by one?01:25
methotopyli: so what would u suggest for protecting data01:25
bettong_BOFHif i where going to do that in thunderbird how would i?01:26
morphixMcJerry yes01:26
Mabus06bettong_BOFH, don't most email providers have an option to only accept addresses from your contact list? I think even hotmail has that.01:26
morphixMcJerry i am trying to compile this.. and it needs the location of openssl install01:26
bettong_BOFHi have charter email and i am looking for that kind of option now01:26
morphixi have specified the dir.. but it still insists it ISNT there01:26
McJerrywhat are you trying to compile?01:27
morphixi feel like throwing the box out the windw01:27
methotopyli: one general question, would linux be alrite, i mean secure enoguh to protect data without a firewall?01:27
Belutzbettong_BOFH, there's a menu called "Filter" but i don't remember the menu hierarchy01:27
morphixpsyBNC01:27
bettong_BOFHok01:27
morphixwith ssl.01:27
Mabus06metho, get a external hd for important data01:27
Mabus06protect data for what purpose, metho01:27
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McJerrymorphix: not familiar with psyBNC, but gimme a sec to look01:28
topylimetho: yes. keep your services (if any) secure, and don't be a fool when doing admin stuff01:28
morphixok cool.01:28
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topylimetho: have good passwords and use ssh for talking to/from the outside world01:29
methoMabus06: protecting from hackers, i mean i just got my online backing id, thats what i decided to install firewall but if u think linux is secure enoguh than i wont mess with it01:29
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methotopyli: ssh? sorry i am noob in Linux world and i dont know what u mean01:30
Belutzanyone knows when will firefox 1.5 available in the repos?01:30
Mabus06secure shell01:30
topylimetho: seems like you don't need it either :)01:30
Mabus06in dapper, belutz01:30
HendikinsA firewall is part of the security framework. It is not the be all and end all.01:30
BelutzMabus06, i see01:30
intelikeyonly secure box is the one not plugged in.01:31
Mabus06And considering you have to have ports open anyway if you want to be online, people can still get in if they really wanted and knew how.01:31
Hendikinsintelikey: and dropped on the ocean floor encased in steel and concrete01:31
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Mabus06Wise words, intelikey. lol01:31
Mabus06And even then, not secure from your household.01:31
topylimetho: if you want to run a service for the outside world, you don't want to firewall it out anyway. and ports with no services listening to them are pretty much dead ports01:31
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methotopyli: now u talking!!! thanks for all your help01:32
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Mabus06metho Setting up firewall scripts you don't understand will cause you more problems than any potential (and unlikely) 'hackers'01:32
intelikeyMabus06 i meant the AC plug    as in no power at all.01:32
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Mabus06Even then, intelikey, I can take out the HD and put it in my box..01:33
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McJerrymorphix : what dir are you telling psyBNC for ssl01:33
methoMabus06: thx for the advise, i decided not to install firewall01:33
morphixMcJerry: /usr/local/ssl01:33
intelikeyMabus06 that does not make the box you removed it from nsecure'01:34
methoMabus06: i have removed firehol as well01:34
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morphixput the case in a safe :P01:34
morphixthats secure.01:34
Jack-Hohey, i have an rar arcvih and it protected whith pass, i know the pass but how can i extrc him?01:34
Mabus06metho, don't ruleout using firestarter or something, if you feel like it01:34
Jack-Hounrar -x file01:34
Jack-Hodosnt work01:34
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McJerrymorphix: i have openssl installed also, and typing ls /usr/local/ssl returns no such directory01:35
Seicherlhi there! How good is ubuntu/linux in read-writing NTFS systems?01:35
Mabus06how 'good'?01:35
morphixi remove openssl.. then compiled it..01:35
b0risSeicherl, Good at reading for sure01:35
methoMabus06: hmmmmmm, ok i'll give firestarter a shot!!!01:35
Mabus06About as good as the user knows how to make it do.01:35
smoI hate to say it, but ntfs write support on linux is nothing short of dangerous01:35
morphixit installed to /usr/local/ssl01:36
HendikinsLinux in general is not good for writing ntfs01:36
intelikeyi can't seem to get tty1 to display properly,  has any of you ever tried ?01:36
morphixit has all the files in there, etc01:36
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topylimetho: a firewall is handy when you have clients on the network and want to do NAT or something. or, when you have temporary experimental services you can't be bothered to configure properly :)01:36
Mabus06ever tried? um yeah, sure... intelikey01:36
morphixincluding the openssl in the /usr/local/ssl/bin folder01:36
HendikinsThere is a wrapper for the Windows NTFS driver, but I don't know how well that works on Ubuntu.01:36
b0risSeicherl, did not try writing, but it is known to be quite hazardous01:36
Seicherlok, so i will need a FAT-Partition, when running stupid win AND ubuntu on one machine01:36
HendikinsUsing FAT32 for data would be desirable, yes.01:37
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methotopyli: the computer i am using atm is client of my home network!!!!01:37
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morphixSeicherl: u can do it a dif way.. use windows to copy stuff to ur linux hdd01:37
Seicherlok, i thought so. just think asking is for free ;)01:37
morphixusing ext2ifs01:37
Seicherl??01:37
methotopyli: i think firestarter would be good choice for home network, what u think?01:37
b0risSeicherl, if you can afford it, use a network drive (samba share) to share your data between Win and Unix. It is more secure01:37
morphixSeicherl: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm01:38
topylimetho: that's cool. i configured a firewall because this is the _server_ as well as my desktop, and routes the internet to clients01:38
Hendikinsmorphix: FAT32 is the easier and better supported choice if you're using only one machine.01:38
intelikeyWHY DoeSn'T TTY1 WoRK CoRReCTLY   <--- and that was with caps lock01:38
topylimetho: firestarter is good for simple setups. it's what i use01:38
Seicherlb0ris: i'm talking about one single machine.01:38
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SeicherlI think i'll stay old-school like and use a fat swap partition01:39
Mabus07tty1 works just fine for me, intelikey01:39
methotopyli: thats what i am installing, and also every ubuntu website mentions this firewall for some reasons therefore i think it would be good choice to have!!!!01:39
b0risSeicherl, then, yes, fat32 is the right choice (though not secure)01:39
Seicherlsecure concerning what?01:39
intelikeymabus07 have you tried mc or anything like that in it ?01:39
topylimetho: it's popular because it's a clickety-clickety easy setup with a GUI01:40
morphixi think i'll give up on psyBNC. stupid ssl crap.01:40
intelikeythe fonts are all screwed up here01:40
Mabus06mc, intelikey ?01:40
xiaogilis it possible to be notified that a new email is arrived with evolution ?01:40
HendikinsSeicherl: permissions and the like, but if you're the only user, that's moot anyway01:40
intelikeyyes mc01:40
intelikeymc = midnight commander01:40
SeicherlHendikins: yes i am.01:40
intelikey!info mc01:40
ubotumc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB01:40
Mabus06what do you mean by mc... I just connected with irssi and said that... you weren't very specific01:40
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Mabus06ok01:41
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HendikinsSeicherl: Well, if you're the only user, anything else is adding needless complexity to the situation.01:41
Seicherlok, another one: when installing ubuntu, a friend told me, i can shrink my ntfs-partition easily. that true?01:41
methotopyli: thanks topyli, only if i found it where it is installed. one question how do u find in general where ur programs are installed, i mean in windows its in program files but how do u find in Linux!!!01:41
Mabus06I'll try it out, intelikey01:41
HrdwrBoBSeicherl: yes01:41
intelikeyMabus06 yes irssi is hosed too on tty1    you are on tty1  not tty2  ?01:41
Seicherlhow easy is easy01:41
pa_lwhere can i find realplayer01:41
HendikinsSeicherl: I know that Linux installers can shrink NTFS, but I suggest defragging the NTFS volume first01:41
pa_lor any compatible media players that can play .ram files01:42
topylimetho: you don't care. the commands will be in your path, and if there's a GUI, it will be in the menu01:42
SeicherlHendikins: thats what i'm doing right now01:42
pa_lreaplayer on realplayer.com is not working here.01:42
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mik3vlc media player is really good, videolan.org i think01:42
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intelikeyMabus06 tty2-63  work fine.  only tty1 is borkd01:42
Mabus06I am on X, intelikey01:42
Seicherlanybody running ubuntu on a thinkpad?01:42
Mabus06mabus07 connnected on tty101:42
pa_lmik3 i have vlc but it doesnt play .ram files01:42
topylimetho: the binaries should go to /usr/bin, libraries to /usr/lib and so on. there's no "Program Files" directory01:42
mik3k01:42
Mabus06intelikey, but he quit in order to install mc to check it out01:42
intelikeyMabus06 and Mabus07 not same ?01:43
HendikinsSeicherl: Do you have specific questions about using Ubuntu on thinkpads?01:43
methotopyli: i get it, cheers01:43
Mabus06intelikey, no, we are the same, but we were connected on different terminals01:43
SeicherlHendikins: not now, but i will soon ;)01:43
Mabus06intelikey, and... mc works just fine for me, and this install is pretty close to the default01:43
topylimetho: if you're interested, it's all here: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html01:44
SeicherlHendikins: I found some howtos for debian, but not yet for ubuntu01:44
HendikinsSeicherl: Checked the Ubuntu wiki?01:44
Seicherlnot yet. can you hand me the url?01:45
topyliSeicherl: debian documentation is good for ubuntu as well01:45
Seicherlthx01:45
methotopyli: offcourse i am inerested m8, i dont wana be noob anymore, its been 2 months since i started using linux!!! LOL01:45
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topyliheh01:45
intelikeyhmmmm so you are telling me that on your box mc looks the same on tty1 as it does on tty*+1  ????    then why the hell doesn't mine ?01:45
HendikinsSeicherl: The Ubuntu wiki is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/01:45
SeicherlI got only a bit of debian experience. will i be able to handle ubuntu?01:45
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ubuntu_hello everyone, can anyone tell me how i make X use my own xorg.conf in the ubuntu live cd environment (5.10), it doesnt seem to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i logout01:45
SeicherlHendikins: thx for that!01:45
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captainredbeardanybody here able to help me with VMware?01:46
Hendikinscaptainredbeard: We can't if you don't ask us a question :)01:46
alambacaptain: sure...shoot!!01:46
Seicherleverybody: thanks so far! I'm pretty sure i'll show up here again the next days! But thanks for your support so far!! happy new year!01:47
captainredbeardok Hendikins, it works fine without networking, but no matter which one i try it doesn't work. And if I used bridged networking, and enable it, VMware hangs, and sometimes drags ubuntu down with it01:47
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intelikeyinstalling svgatextmode to see if that helps.01:47
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Hendikinscaptainredbeard: First things first, are you using Breezy and VMware 5.5.1?01:47
morphixWHY THE <CENSORED>01:48
captainredbeardHendikins, breezy with kernel image 686, VMware5.5.0 build 1846301:48
HendikinsIf it is reasonable, take 5.5.1 for a spin. Your problem may be fixed in the later version.01:48
methotopyli: again i m being noob! how do i find out firestarted, it should be in menu as it is a GUI but its not there01:48
morphixthis linux box will end up outside any second now.01:49
Seveasmorphix, that would be a waste01:49
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topylimetho: should be in apps -> system tools01:49
neronhello is there any1 who knows the page that tells you how to install latest java support for firefox in ubuntu?!?01:49
Seveas!javadeb01:49
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/01:49
Seveas^-- neron01:49
captainredbeardHendikins, I've read of others having the same problem with different versions aswell, theres a patch for it, but not for version 5.501:49
morphixSeveas well it isnt like its fkn working01:49
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methotopyli: no m8 its not there01:50
Seveasmorphix, please elaborate, we may help01:50
topylimetho: if your menu hasn't updated, just run "sudo firestarter" from a terminal. you'll probably only need to run it once anyway01:50
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morphixi've told.01:50
Seveasmorphix, k, I'll read back :)01:50
topylimetho: linux firewalls don't need to be running all the time. the gui is just for configuration, and then it's done01:50
Hendikinsneron: Interestingly enough, I'm writing up a page about Firefox plugins on Ubuntu. It lives at http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html01:50
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topylimetho: it just sets some rules for the iptables in the kernel, and quits01:50
morphixi am trying to compile psyBNC with ssl.. but it keeps coming up that the dir i specified doesnt contain the openssl binary01:51
morphixyet i know it does.01:51
nerongotta check that ;)01:51
morphixi have tried like 10 dirs.. and used locate ,etc also even compiled openssl and tried do it that way01:51
morphixnothing will work.01:51
kenkkuI'm trying to get teamspeak working, which audio source should I use.. the default (/dev/dsp) isn't working01:51
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methotopyli: i see,01:51
Seveasmorphix, for compiling you need openssl headers (package libssl-dev), these headers are in /usr/include or /usr/include/openssl01:51
morphixi have also used that dir01:52
morphixit still says the same.01:52
TengkSASeveas, !!!!!!!!!!!!!01:52
Seveasmorphix, did you install that package?01:52
topylimetho: it installs a script in your bootup sequence. the script applies the kernel rules at every boot, so you don't need to worry01:52
Seveasif so: pastebin the complete output of configure and/or make01:52
Seveasin the mean time, I'm hiding from TengkSA01:52
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methotopyli:i see, so basically u just configure once and thats it?01:53
TengkSASeveas, im dead im fcked01:53
morphixSeveas: yes01:53
morphixSeveas: SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/include/".01:53
SeveasTengkSA, how?01:53
topylimetho: that's it01:53
methotopyli:i see, so basically u just configure once and thats it01:54
methotopyli: sorry, lol01:54
captainredbeard!vmware01:54
morphixSSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/include/openssl/".01:54
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morphixsame thing01:54
hkcaptainredbeard,  hmm vmware 5.5.1 works fine on breezy (amd64)01:54
morphixGRR01:54
Seveasmorphix, hmm, what if you simpy use /usr?01:54
captainredbeardhk, with netowrking?01:54
Seveasthe openssl binary is in /usr/lib/01:54
hkyea01:54
topylimetho: if you want to monitor the blocked traffic, you can of course keep the GUI open01:54
captainredbeardhk, i'll give it a shot then01:54
TengkSASeveas, i cant get back in to windows no matter how hard i try01:54
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morphixSeveas01:55
morphixOMG01:55
topylimetho: but watching misconfigured windows boxen trying to connect to you gets pretty boring after a while :)01:55
hkcaptainredbeard, Im connecting my winXP VM to a samba server in another box ;)01:55
morphixit worked01:55
morphixLOL.01:55
morphixthanks01:55
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Seveasmorphix, cool :)01:55
Seveasnow for the next error from ./configure ;)01:55
TengkSAWhat software do you use BESIDES MythTV to watch tv from a tv card in ubuntu?01:55
morphixi know i can always rely on u guys(or girls) in here :)01:55
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Mabus06it's what makes ubuntu the best, moritz01:55
Mabus06morphix, that is01:56
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methotopyli: i am configuring firestarter now, but i am keep getting the following error "the local area and connected internet connected devices can not be the same"01:56
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topylimetho: they can't. :)01:56
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topylimetho: since your box is a client, you only have a internet device01:56
TengkSAaeveas what do u recommend i do01:57
TengkSASeveas, ^^ ^^01:57
lotuzHi, i have just reinstalld ubuntu, And I need to run Windows at the same time, but when i chose "Windows" in the Grub menu it stops after "root savedefault01:57
lotuzmakeactive01:57
lotuz chainloader+1"  pls help....01:57
SeveasTengkSA, completely wipe windows and use only Ubuntu01:57
TengkSAWhat program can i use to watch TV from a TV Card besides MythTV, anyone?!?01:57
methotopyli: network device? so basically i dont need to share my connection cos i am client?01:57
Seveasbut that may not be what you want :)01:57
TengkSASeveas, : i have to use windows too01:57
topylimetho: right01:57
TengkSASeveas, certain programs for school work etc01:57
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kenkkuwhich system should I use for audio, ALSA, ESD or OSS?01:57
Mabus06TengkSA, if you got an nvidia card, try #nvidia. if you have an ati, try #ati. if you have something else, welcome to 2006, get a real card.01:58
AlphaI think alsa is better01:58
Seveaskenkku, ESD preferably until ALSA is mature enough01:58
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TengkSAMabus06, its a tv card a proper tv tuner so i can watch tv through the aerial/satellite not a graphics card!!!!01:58
Mabus06ah01:58
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kenkkuso if I use ESD, where is the device to record? I'm using teamspeak and the default won't work01:58
Mabus06then you'll likely find more help where there are other people who use that sort of thing, TengkSA01:59
methotopyli: everything is working ok now, thanks very much for ur help!!!!01:59
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Mabus06Or of course there's alays google.01:59
AlphaI hava a problem.The readme says DOOM3 cannot run under X700.01:59
topylimetho: later, if you want, you can open ports for bittorrent, gnutella or whatever you need01:59
Mabus06Awww... you serious, Alpha? :(01:59
AlphaIs there anything I could do about it?01:59
AlphaYes.01:59
AlphaThe readme says that.01:59
Mabus06I recently got the same card.01:59
sanjayHi - does anyone know how I can convert .avi files to .mpeg ? is there a tool I can download in Synaptic?01:59
oskudeTengkSA: xawtv, zapping, tvtime...01:59
Mabus06And I was going to reinstall doom3 today...02:00
AlphaIt says fglrx have some problems.02:00
Mabus06sanjay, I hate to commit heresy here but for media manipulation I'd go with windows02:00
methotopyli: i may have to open ports cos i will install limewire this afternoon!!!! i am off now anyway so i will ask for ur help this afternoon if u r online, :)02:00
Mabus06metho, we might not be but somebody with answers likely will.. cya02:00
topylimetho: ok, i'm off to grab a beer as well :)02:01
silverpowerOn ppc Ubuntu, is mouse button emulation turned on, and what keys does it use?02:01
sanjayMabus: ay ok thanks - i do dualboot, and heretically, i need to convert them to be able to edit them on premiere, so ahh well. damn. thanks.02:01
oskudebtw, when i use my radeon9200pro with fglrx driver, i cant use hardware overlay with my tv card, normal ? (with radeon drivers it does work)02:01
methotopyli, Mabus06: cya later my Linux Gurus, lol02:01
ubuntu_hello everyone, can anyone tell me how i make X use my own xorg.conf in the ubuntu live cd environment (5.10), after i copy mine it doesnt seem to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i logout to restart X02:01
Mabus06Linux guru? Not quite. heh02:01
TengkSAoskude shot02:02
Mabus06sanjay, if you find a good program to convert avi to mpeg on ubuntu, let me know ;-)02:02
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topyliMabus06: better just bite the bullet and start writing good mencoder command lines :)02:03
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thegladiatormy browsers tend to crash frequently02:03
thegladiatorwondering i f anyone has the same experience02:03
Mabus06Yeah, but then I got Ubuntu.02:03
AlphaI have a winxp on my harddisk.but it is pirated copy.02:03
thegladiatori am on ubuntu02:04
Mabus06I know, just poking fun. What browser are you using.02:04
thegladiatorand I really have this annoying problem02:04
Seveasthegladiator, nope. Are you using dapper perhaps?02:04
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thegladiatornope breezy02:04
AlphaMost of my friends use pirated software.02:04
thegladiatorwonder why it always happens with me02:04
Mabus06the default firefox, or 1.5?02:04
thegladiatorthese bugs that cant be detecetd nor removed02:04
thegladiatordefault02:05
Mabus06Alpha, I prefer open source, just because the places you get it from aren't spam freaks like piracy places.02:05
thegladiatori didnt try 1.5 since even this version is stable or so they so02:05
Seveasthegladiator, crappy plugins/extensions perhaps02:05
kemikthegladiator:  my browsers used to crash frequently.. my RAM was bad02:05
samitheberberWhen can firefox1.5 be downloaded by atp-get ?02:05
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AlphaBut openoffice is not good enough.02:05
thegladiatorkemik, i have to chcek my RAM02:05
thegladiatorit is new actuallly02:05
fli7eif i'm running a pentium 4 laptop, is it benificial to run the linux-686 kernel as opposed to the linux-386 one that i'm currently running?02:06
thegladiatorby if RAM is bad shudnt the system fail as sucj ?02:06
kemikthegladiator:  mmh, better run memtest a few runs02:06
Mabus06samigaru, dapper02:06
MyrttiAlpha: it's good value for the money you pay for it02:06
Mabus06samitheberber, I mean ^^02:06
thegladiatorSeveas, how can i go about installin plugins ?02:06
thegladiatorkemik, how ?02:06
thegladiatormemtest is the command ?02:06
kemikthegladiator:  no necessarily, it sometimes frooze my comp, sometimes just shutdown apps on random02:06
AlphaMyrtti:It is too expensive.02:06
thegladiatorSeveas, these things happen out of the blue , not when i open some page or something02:06
MyrttiAlpha: openoffice?02:06
Myrttilol02:06
kemikthegladiator:  it's an option in your grub-menu when you restart your computer02:07
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thegladiatorkemik, whats the command from terminal ? for memtest ?02:07
thegladiatoryes02:07
thegladiatori'll do that02:07
thegladiatorbefore that i guess i need to try out freshly installing firefox ?02:07
AlphaAlmost every computer in my campus uses cracked Windows XP02:07
kemikthegladiator:  it cant be run from command, you have to restart and run it "exclusively" (since nothing can be loaded in rAM whilst testing)02:07
samitheberberMabus06: Only for Dapper, that you mean?02:07
thegladiatorSeveas, how do I go about removing FF and then02:07
thegladiatorreinstalling it from CD02:08
thegladiatorsudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox ?02:08
AlphaThis is my first time to use IRC chat.It seems not very wonderful.02:08
thegladiatorAlpha, whats the problem ?02:08
Mabus06samitheberber, it will be in breezy only after it's in dapper, the topic to this channel said a while ago02:08
HendikinsAlpha: IRC seems to be either friendly or scary, there's rarely any in between. This channel is the former, #debian is the latter (for example)02:09
AlphaSo many people chat in the only window.02:09
samitheberberMabus06: Ok. When Dapper goes out?02:09
samitheberberMabus06: April 2006?02:09
kemikAlpha:  you can have more channels open and any number of private chats02:09
AlphaI see.02:10
allison_1984Hendikins/ I agree ;)02:10
thegladiatori am doing a reinstallation , just in case02:10
kemikAlpha:  and this channel is probably one of the largest channels on the net :)02:10
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_mattHI Alpha, if you use kubuntu, the kubuntu channel is quieter02:10
AlphaI am using Ubuntu.02:10
kemikAlpha:  but if you need help, just ask02:10
HendikinsGentoo is substantially bigger than this channel02:10
AlphaI have a problem about VNC.02:10
thegladiatorthis is the best help channel for any LINUX i have ever used02:11
thegladiatorGentoo is the only bigger one02:11
Hendikins#debian was similarly sized02:11
thegladiatorbut I have nothin towards Gentoo as of now02:11
kemik#debian... a very friendly channel02:11
AlphaOnly One user could log on the VNC server.02:11
kemikif they ever reply its often "RTFM NOOB" ;)02:11
thegladiatori didnt use debian as such . used knoppix02:11
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TengkSAPLEASE will someone help with booting windows back02:12
kemikAlpha:  yeah, i dont think VNC supports multiple sessions02:12
Hendikinskemik: I think satan will be ordering anti-freeze before #debian is friendly. #debian and #ubuntu seem to be polar opposites.02:12
thegladiatorTengkSA, whats the problem ? just ask...02:12
AlphaI install vnc4serverbut it doesn't work.02:12
kemikAlpha:  you're probably wanting SSH or perhaps FreeNX(not sure about that)02:12
yogiiwhen using dpkg -- If i have given the command dpkg -r --pending, should it remove all packages marked for removal? and if yes, when i do a dpkg -l|grep packagename  should it still show up with the "r" for removal flag?02:12
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TengkSAthegladiator, i installed ubuntu yesterday and windows has been on my comp for a while... how do i boot back in to windows?02:12
kemikHendikins:  mh they are.. i had some Q's a few years ago ... lets just say #debian wasnt of much help ....02:12
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thegladiatorTengkSA, you messed up during installation I think02:13
kemikTengkSA:  you'll have to restore GRUB or your MBR02:13
thegladiatoryou must edit grub.con02:13
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yogiianyone familiar with dpkg at all?02:13
AlphaThen I try to log in through ssh ,I fail in running 'startx02:13
Hendikinskemik: My main annoyance is that they patch firefox up the wazoo then send all questions to upstream. Problem is, I basically run upstream as far as IRC is concerned.02:13
TengkSAnow how do i do these things please will you guide me through02:13
kemikTengkSA:  think you can boot with the windows cd and typ fixmbw (but that will wreck grub)02:13
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TengkSAi dont have a windows cd with me02:13
fli7eanyone who knows: if i'm running a pentium 4 laptop, is it benificial to run the linux-686 kernel instead of the linux-386 one that i'm currently running?02:14
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kemikfli7e:  it should, in theory, be better ;)02:14
irvinfli7e, definitely02:14
AlphaDo most of you come from the western countries?02:14
TengkSAthegladiator, kemik, what do u people recommend i do02:14
irvinAlpha, not me02:14
AlphaI am in china.02:15
kemikTengkSA:  well, im not sure what the exact problem is.. but either edit your grub.conf or recover grub entirely, or last run fixmbr02:15
thegladiatorreinstalling ubuntu wud be a nice idea also if you have the time02:15
fli7ekemik, so i basically what, remove linux-386 in synaptics and mark linux-686 for install and reboot?02:15
thegladiatorwhile reinstallation ubuntu detects ur windows OS02:15
HendikinsReinstalling the OS? What is this, Windows?02:15
TengkSAthegladiator, does that mean i need to reset all that shit like allow mp3s and stuff02:15
thegladiatorTengkSA, the thing is if you dont know to play with grub i.e02:16
kemikfli7e:  dont have to remove actually, it should be just another option in grub02:16
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fli7eoh, right02:16
kemikfli7e:  so just install, it's safest ;)02:16
thegladiatorreinstall is just the easy way to set it back...after that I guess you will have to do those things again02:16
fli7ecool, thanks02:16
TengkSAso do i pop my ubuntu cd in02:16
thegladiatorsomeone knows how to edit the grub to get windows back ?02:16
thegladiatori amnot sure02:17
thegladiatorinstall cd and do a installation process again...what do you guys think ?02:17
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TengkSAive followed so many step by step things on the internet and none work02:17
thegladiatorabout this advice ?02:17
kemikHendikins:  maybe you can help TengkSA ... he cant boot windows (apparently there's no such option in the grub.menu... so grub must have failed to install properly)02:17
thegladiatoryeah02:17
thegladiatorHendikins, if you could help him02:17
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TengkSAapparently its not a good idea if windows is installed on a 2nd partition02:18
kemikthegladiator:  i dont think a re-installation should be neccessary02:18
thegladiatormy method is laborious02:18
Hendikinskemik: I don't use Ubuntu. I'm here to handle Firefox questions for downstream, in the main.02:18
thegladiatorneither me02:18
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thegladiatorbut if you dont know the grub related stuff thats called for...02:18
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kemikHendikins:  i c :) didnt think they had new FF in ubuntu repos02:18
Hendikinskemik: Who said anything about 1.5?02:19
Mabus06kemik, quite sure they dont02:19
TengkSAso what do i do boys02:19
silverpowerHow do I enable mouse button emulation under Ubuntu? I need it to get my Powerbook fully working.02:19
sanjayTengkSA: I do a dualboot with windows -- i can give u my grub.conf and menu.lst settings, but im not so familiar with GRUB either, so dont know if thats the best idea ..02:19
thegladiatorTengkSA, do a google for edit+grub+windows...something like that02:19
Hendikinskemik: I'm simply helping downstream because upstream isn't doing their level best to piss me off :)02:19
TengkSAive done so many of those02:19
TengkSAi have no idea what im doing on this prog02:19
kemikHendikins:  aight :)02:19
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thegladiatorsanjayji it will also depend on his drive (windows)02:19
Hendikinser, downstream isn't trying to piss me off02:19
TengkSAsanjay can u give it to me02:19
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TengkSAi know which drive each thing is on dont worry02:19
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kemikTengkSA:  paste your grub.conf on pastebin perhaps02:20
thegladiatoralright02:20
TengkSAhow do u access grub.conf02:20
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thegladiator/etc/grub.conf02:20
TengkSAno such file/directory02:20
Seveasthegladiator, that's a redhatism02:21
SeveasUbuntu uses the proper /boot/grub/menu.lst02:21
ldyTengkSA, /boot/grub/menu.conf02:21
thegladiatoroh sorry :)02:21
TengkSAoh ive changed that file so many times i dont know what im doing02:21
thegladiatorold fc4 !02:21
Seveasfcrap4 :)02:21
Neithe make-kpkg --initrd screws if I use a local_version setting in my kernel, someone knows how to fix that?02:21
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kemikSeveas:  now now, let's all be friends02:22
TengkSASeveas, do u think sanjay's idea is a good one02:22
kemik:>02:22
HendikinsSuSE is also using /etc/grub.conf, fwiw :P02:22
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thegladiatorpaste your grub first02:22
SeveasTengkSA, didn't see the idea :)02:22
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thegladiatormost of the distro perfer /etc i guess . well not sure :)02:22
Nei(details: the initrd contains a /lib/modules/maj.min directory, but it tries to load modules from /lib/modules/maj.min-local_version02:22
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kemikSeveas:  basically that sanjay would give TengkSA *his* grub.conf02:22
Seveaseww02:22
thegladiatorTengkSA, i dont think thats a good idea02:22
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thegladiatorbut...02:23
ldyI see some distros has symbol link in /etc/groub.conf to /boot/grub/menu.lst02:23
Seveasthat sounds like a terrible idea02:23
TengkSAthegladiator, why not02:23
thegladiatorpaste ur thing first02:23
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TengkSAmy thing is already on pastebin Seveas tried to help last nite02:23
sanjayyea - i can give u the lines to reference my windows -- if u have it installed on your first partition .. but better someone who knows their grub to do this ..02:23
thegladiatorTengkSA, there are some issues there...paste your02:23
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thegladiatorTengkSA, just play aroun and see if you have the live cd also02:23
TengkSAlive cd?02:24
TengkSAsanjay, its on my 2nd partition02:24
silverpowerTengkSA: paste the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' to a pastebin, as well.02:24
ANE_BTabe lugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee02:24
ANE_BTso e ova rabotaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa02:24
ANE_BTnisto ne razbiram02:24
Alpha02:24
fli7eanyone: what is the current full version number of the latest stable ubuntu kernel? is it 2.6.12, or 2.6.12.10, or what?02:24
sanjayTengkSA: ooohh.. then I wouldn't do anything . (having windows on second partition can be problematic, in my experience)02:24
TengkSAsanjay, what do i do? uninstall ubuntu entirely and install it on my 2nd hard drive?02:25
Seveasfli7e, 2.6.12-1002:25
fli7eSeveas, thanks. :)02:25
TengkSAsanjay,  im worried if windows will work after uninstalling ubuntu02:25
AlphaI think so.02:25
thegladiatorTengkSA, try these thing if nothing works you always have the reinstallation option in which ubuntu auto detcts ur Windoz and do the apropriate action required02:25
xiaogilis there an email notifier with evolution ?02:25
xiaogilAlpha: 02:26
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Seveasxiaogil, no02:26
Alpha02:26
thegladiatorwhats this chiness channel ?02:26
TengkSAthegladiator, sanjay Seveas  what do i do02:26
SeveasAlpha, sticj to english in here02:26
Seveasthegladiator, #ubuntu-zh02:26
sanjayTengkSA: yes, and if all fails then, i think thegladiator had mentioned the fix mbr comdmand for Windows that u can probably do to recover your Windows boot ..02:26
Alphaok02:26
TengkSAsilverpower, can i paste my output of fdisk in a prvt window02:26
silverpowerTengkSA: sure.02:27
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thegladiatornot fix mbr he doesnt have the win cd02:27
TengkSAi have a windows boot floppy disk02:27
TengkSAbut it doesnt even work now02:27
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kemikim sure you can download the fixmbr thing from the 'net02:28
TengkSAi think that theres huge conflict about windows being on 2nd partition02:28
thegladiatorreinstalling ubuntu from sratch , over the present one02:28
sanjayoh shux. yea - owch.. aiy.. i have to run.. best of luck folks..02:28
thegladiatorTengkSA, didnt you see this question during ub installation ? which says there is a win OS02:28
TengkSAno i cant install ubuntu on to my first partition ill install it on my 2nd partition or cant it be on the same on as windows/02:28
thegladiatordo you want to keep it and stuff02:28
Mabus06no, TengkSA02:28
TengkSAthegladiator, it never came up02:28
AlphaTenkSA:Find a linux expect around you and everything is ok.02:28
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TengkSAAlpha, sorry?02:29
thegladiatorTengkSA, thats weird , ubuntu detects the OS existsing02:29
deltronexpert I think alpha meant02:29
xiaogilAlpha: /join #ubuntu-zh OR /join #ubuntu-tw OR /join #dot02:29
Alphai see.02:29
thegladiatordont you think Ubuntu detetcs windows ? in my case it did02:30
thegladiatorlike for a dual boot02:30
TengkSAno it was confused02:30
thegladiatori see. weird02:30
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thegladiatori think there shud be a grub generator program in ubuntu02:31
ldyHi,all, I see such output in netstat -natu (udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:32793           0.0.0.0:*02:31
ldyudp        0      0 0.0.0.0:68              0.0.0.0:*02:31
ldy )02:31
ldywhat's are these ports for?02:31
thegladiatorsomething that checks the OS and generates the suitable grub02:31
thegladiatorperhaps i might take up the project :)02:32
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TengkSAis there a way of uninstalling a previous ubuntu version02:32
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thegladiatordo you mean you have two ubuntu's in yoru syste, ?02:32
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Mabus06TengkSA, format the partition with it on it.02:33
thegladiatorhttp://ubuntuguide.org/ --> 5.04 guide , not breezy , but it has something you need02:33
TengkSAi am useless how do i do that02:33
thegladiatorTengkSA, ^02:33
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thegladiatorhey ubuntu experts arond , is there a possibility of ubuntu not detecting another OS during installation ?02:34
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Mabus06anything is possible, but I'm no expert ;-)02:34
silverpowerTengkSA: did you paste the entire thing?02:34
[A] ndy80hi02:34
[A] ndy80I built the .deb package for ubuntu of aMule 2.1.0.... who can i send it to? other users could be interested in it02:34
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TengkSAsilverpower, yeah02:34
Vensonthegladiator , if it's another linux install, yes...it won't pick up. afaik, there's no linux installer that will02:35
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thegladiatori see02:35
silverpowerTengkSA: It's useless - there's no kernel entry, so I can't write you a new one.02:35
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silverpowerAll the boot stanzas are simply gone.02:36
thegladiatorTengkSA, there is another suggestion Iw ud like to give you02:36
thegladiatorwhich is not about "correcting "02:36
TengkSAif i reinstall ubontu02:36
TengkSAwill it work02:36
thegladiatorIMHO it shud detect the OS present but I can guarantee that :(02:37
thegladiatorTengkSA, why dont you try backing up ur  data ?02:37
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TengkSAthegladiator, my 2nd hard drive has everything i need02:37
nevillerealplayer-setup tells me to update "your system's library paths02:37
TengkSAthegladiator, i just dont feel like reinstalling all the progs/drivers etc02:38
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silverpowerTengkSA: Fixing this is relatively easy, but I'm going to need to know things like your exact kernel and initrd name, plus all the options.02:38
thegladiatorah02:38
nevillehow??02:38
thegladiatorsilverpower, shud help you I guess . i amnot much aware about this...02:38
thegladiatorjust follow him02:38
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moodogHi02:38
thegladiatorHI moodog02:38
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TengkSAhow old are all of you people on average02:39
thegladiatori am 2102:39
thegladiatorand you ?02:39
_matt25 years old!02:39
Mabus06I'm 18, on average. ;-)02:39
TengkSA1602:39
nevillehow can i update my system's library paths?02:39
thegladiatorcool , so the average age is 2102:39
thegladiatornice :)02:39
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TengkSAi have so much guts to just try out these things without learning about it and i ALWAYS manage to fuck up02:40
dutch6202:40
morphixages?02:40
morphix17.02:40
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thegladiatorTengkSA, you are not alone02:40
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TengkSAhaha02:41
thegladiatori have botched up few many things actually02:41
IdleOneTengkSA: if you dont break it you cant fix it lol02:41
thegladiatorthats called hacking02:42
blaamannneville: Could you specify ?02:42
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zoydhi, is there any tool to edit .avis?02:44
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berkeshey there. good afternoon!02:45
tinihi there02:46
HendikinsGood morning.02:46
berkesi am trying to get some stuff on and off a windows PC in our LAN.02:46
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berkesatm the only environment that is configured is the windows local network.02:46
oskudezoyd: could be your looking for "avidemux" ...02:46
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berkesdoes anyone know what protocol is used for that?02:47
fli7eberkes, WINS is one of the protocols for Windows workgroups02:47
Hendikinsberkes: You'd use samba.02:47
berkesi thought so, thanks.02:47
mrpinkchroot magik/quit02:47
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neronhello02:49
neronits me again02:49
neroni got another problem now02:49
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zoydoskude: k, i'll try that02:49
neronhow do you crate a home network without a router i have 2 computers connected to a switch using DSL modem with pppoe connection on both02:50
fli7eneron, do you have two network cards?02:51
fli7ein one of the pcs?02:51
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neronno02:51
neroni dont need to share my internet connection02:51
UniqueNameCan someone help me out i had problems with my soundcard stoping my boot process, but now i am in ubuntu. Its all setup. BUT I have no sound... I have a lw40 express laptop and it has a realtek audio thing. Anyway it comes up in the tray at the top of the screen as if its there i can adjust the volume sliders but volume does not work. I have read that i might need to install custom drivers i tried doing that but it needs kernel heade02:51
UniqueNamers or something to compile and i am using a old kernel that was patched for this issue so i cant be bothered. Can someone tell me if other distros have this problem with realtek or how to fix my audio AND when the next ubuntu release is due as the next realase should fix this problem02:51
neroni just want to share files trought the cables02:51
vilkohi al i need some help again02:51
fli7eneron, a crossover cable would be the easiest way02:52
neroni dont have that02:52
vilkois there thing that i can chat over webcam with windows users ?02:52
neroni got the switch02:52
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fli7ewell, a switch should be just as good as a router02:52
blaamannviko: Try GnomeMeeting02:52
vilkook...02:52
vilkoim in that atm02:53
vilkobut i dont see any options for webcam ?02:53
neronwell so what do i need to connect 2 comps together than02:53
blaamannvilko: Click on the camera icon02:53
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neronvilko try dowloading amsn02:53
blaamannvilko: Is you camera configured ?02:54
oskudeneron: a cable, protocol and a service ;)02:54
vilkowait its not gaim meeting internet messaging02:54
vilko?02:54
blaamannvilko: What ?02:54
fli7eneron, as long as both computers are somehow connected to the switch, they should already be physically able to talk to eachother02:54
UniqueNameWhy does gnome only let me choose 1024x768 when my xorg file says 1280x76802:54
neronoskude: im practicaly a new user so please some more info :(02:54
vilkogaim internet messenger is that GnomeMeeting?02:55
blaamannvilko: No, run gnomemeeting02:55
vilkodo i have that installed even ?02:55
oskudeneron: and i dont know with what you wanna communicate and what you want to transport (i use http, ftp, or ssh)02:55
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matt_hello i have a ?02:55
matt_can someone help me02:55
deltronk02:56
vilkoooo found it lol02:56
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neroni just want to share some files02:56
matt_how do i open a port for my firewall02:56
oskudeneron: for that i would use http or ftp02:56
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UniqueNamecan someone tell me why xorg says i can only use 1280x768 but gnome choosed 1024x768 and does not let me manualy change it02:56
neronso i just need to setup the ftp server02:56
neronand a ftp client02:56
oskudeneron: yup02:57
nerondamn gotta try that02:57
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neronthanx02:57
matt_can someone help me?02:57
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fli7eUniqueName, I might be wrong, but i think xorg does not have default options for widescreen resolutions02:57
neronany sujestions on the best or easiest program to use?!?02:57
vilkodamn how do i config my camera02:57
oskudeneron: but on my experience http was easier to setup than ftp (but on http you dont have upload, well not standardly)02:57
fli7eUniqueName, that would be WHY. if you want to know HOW to add them manually, you'll need someone elses help02:57
matt_i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?02:57
neronhum02:58
UniqueNamefli7e, i selected widescreen in the installer and opened xorg to double check. i know how to do it but its not letting me use what i have done to the xorg file02:58
UniqueNamethe problem is with gnome not xorg :S02:58
neronoskude: id like to try the http what programs did u use?!?02:58
UniqueNamefli7e, SubSection "Display"02:59
UniqueNameDepth2402:59
UniqueNameModes"1280x768"02:59
UniqueNameEndSubSection02:59
oskudeneron: "sudo apt-get install apache2" (and select "standalone" when asked)02:59
neronapache thought so02:59
matt_?? can someone help?02:59
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fli7eUniqueName, i don't have a widescreen, so ive obviously never experienced the problem firsthand. someone else in this channel had a similar problem within the last few days and i think someone mentioned manually editing the x configuration files or something like that. thats really all i know about it03:00
oskudeneron: then you can make a dir named "public_html" in your home dir, and others will find it with browser "http://ip.ip.ip.ip/~yourusername"03:00
blaamannvilko: See if this driver/module support your camera03:00
blaamannhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx03:00
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fli7ematt_, what are you using as a firewall?03:00
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sarekhi03:01
ligianyone knows what to apt-get to be able to install wmv3 files with mplayer?03:01
vilkohow do i check that ?03:01
UniqueNamefli7e, yeah i thought i would get a quick fix, i guess its back to google. By the way if the audio slider comes up and opens does that mean drivers are WORKING and valid becuase my audio drivers dont work (not supported by the latest kernel) i got a kernel patch and i can see the volume slider now but it does not work.03:01
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neronnow theres a problem03:01
blaamannvilko: Go to the site and read03:01
matt_i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?03:01
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Olsonhey03:02
vilkook03:02
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bigfoot_yetihi all03:02
Olsoni installed ubuntu here but the mouse didnt work03:02
spyhi03:02
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Olsoncould anybody help me?03:02
fli7eUniqueName, i havent a clue about the volume problem03:02
samitheberberHow I get skype working in UBUNTU5.10 ?03:02
spycan sum1 help me mount ntfs drive... disk manager doesnt want 2 enable when i set it up03:02
neronoskude: the file does not work :S03:03
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UniqueNamefli7e, well do you know how to hide the audio patch thing? beucase since i patched the kernel the thing asking me to patch ubuntu wont go away03:03
matt_i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?03:03
matt_whats the command?03:03
oskudeneron: what file doesnt work ?03:03
neroni mean03:03
neronNot Found03:04
neronThe requested URL /neron was not found on this server.03:04
neronApache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 803:04
bigfoot_yetioh, j , so many questions03:04
OlsonCould anybody help me ? I installed ubuntu here but the mouse didnt work.03:04
neronwhat did i do wrong now?!?03:04
oskudeneron: dont forget that "~" like "localhost/~neron"03:04
neronoh damn sorry03:04
neronsorry03:04
nerontnx03:05
Olsondoes serial mouse work in ubuntu ?03:05
matt_hrmm03:05
oskudeneron: np, that happens to all of us :)03:05
matt_can anyone help me?03:05
matt_or no?03:05
neronit works it works it works03:05
matt_or where can i get help03:05
neronyey03:05
fli7eUniqueName, if you're talking about the speaker icon on the top panel, right click on it and select remove from panel03:05
oskudeneron: nice03:05
UniqueNamefli7e, no i am tlaking about the red circle with a line thru it03:05
neronso is there a way to get into any other directories?!?03:05
Olsonfli7e help me , please03:05
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sarekligi: maybe you could try installing the w32codecs package - but it's not in the official repositry any longer afaik03:06
oskudeneron: for that you should read about configuring apache...03:06
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fli7eOlson, a serial mouse should work in ubuntu, but the bad news is im not sure how to configure it without a working mouse.03:06
ligisa03:06
bigfoot_yetiany idea how to run firestarter under kde ?03:06
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ligisarek, thanx03:07
sareknp03:07
morphixcan ubuntu be installed on a usb removable hdd>03:07
morphix?03:07
dylan_is there any way that you can change the amount of ink that comes out of your printer?03:07
dylan_how about print speed?03:07
Olsonfli7e thats great03:07
neronoskude i know u helped me alot but do you happen to have any sujestions where to find those tutorials?!?03:07
oskudeneron: im not sure if it works if you just do links in "public_html" for files that are outside "public_html"03:07
morphixaliases.03:07
neronits worth to try03:07
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neronhow do you do a link?!? :S03:08
fli7eOlson, you can try just plugging one in or something, but your best bet would be to get a usb mouse. they usually autodetect03:08
sarekI use the current nvidia-kernel-* drivers for xorg which seems to work fine. But when I test glxgears, the gears turn real slow and no output (about the fps rate) is given on the console. is that normal? When I checked this with my old card console output was given each 2 or 3 seconds03:08
neroni found out03:08
neronthanx anyways03:08
fli7eUniqueName, i am unsure what red circle with a line you are talking about. i don't think i've seen one before03:08
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oskudeneron: as morphix hinted, you could google about apache and aliases (you just do some lines in apaches config file, and you can like "map" any folder to any http address)03:09
UniqueNamefli7e,  yes you have its the thing that asks you to update ubuntu03:09
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matt_hello?03:09
morphixi have an ebook on apache if u want it neron03:09
matt_can someone help me really quickly?03:09
morphixi sell it on ebay :P03:09
fli7eoh right03:09
matt_i gotta ?03:09
samitheberbermatt_: What is your problem?03:09
neronmorphix sure03:09
matt_i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?03:10
fli7eyou want to get rid of that?03:10
oskudeebooks sucks, tutorials rule :)03:10
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morphixmeh this book cost me $30 when i bought the hard copy03:10
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neronheh03:10
fli7eUniqueName, to get rid of THAT permanently you right click on the dotted/dashed vertical line that looks like a seperator bar and select remove from panel03:10
oskudei NEVER buy computer related books (there are like 1001 more uptodate info in the net)03:11
matt_samitheberer03:11
bigfoot_yetiany idea how to run firestarter under kde ?03:11
neronhuh :S now that is something strange morphix03:11
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samitheberbermatt_: Maybe you can use iptables03:12
bigfoot_yetianternatives are good too03:12
bigfoot_yetibut i need a GUI03:12
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bigfoot_yetikerio-like gui03:13
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sarekI have some problems getting my tv tuner card tu work. I know the card number and tuner number to pass to the bttv module. When I start a tv application I get sound, can switch channels, but the screen is distorted. I can see the tv image, but there are lots of artefacts in it. Any idea?03:13
matt_samitheberber: how can i open up the port so i can run like azureus03:13
bigfoot_yetino ideas then03:13
bigfoot_yetipeace03:13
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vilkoalrighty o03:15
neronanyways did any1 yet tried to play aao on ubuntu?!?03:15
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vilkohow can i burn cds ?03:15
vilkois ther ea burning proggie ?03:15
neronjes it is03:15
Whistlervilko try gnome-baker03:15
neron:D03:15
Whistlerit should be installed by default03:15
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vilkoaha03:16
neronwhistler it wasnt installed by default at my comp03:16
neronand i installed 2 ubuntus 1 on each comp03:16
Whistleras far as i remember it should be installed by default on 5.1003:16
Whistlermay be that im wrong03:16
vilkolooks like it aint03:17
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Whistlervilko then try: sudo apt-get install gnome-baker03:17
Whistleror just use synaptic03:17
janolignomebaker03:17
Whistlerfor that03:17
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Whistleroh03:17
Whistlerwithout - just gnomebaker03:17
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vilkoser paketlistor... Frdig03:18
vilkoBygger beroendetrd... Frdig03:18
vilkoE: Kunde inte hitta paketet gnome-baker03:18
Chousukegnomebaker03:18
Chousuke:p03:18
vilkoow ok03:18
ChousukeAlso You could've just said it doesn't find the package "gnome-baker"03:19
vilkowoohoo03:19
vilkoseems like it install03:19
Chousukethat had 2 unnecessary lines. :)03:19
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vilkothanks guys u rox03:20
vilko:D03:20
Inf3ctedFxHello guys03:20
vilkow000h0000 another happy puppy goes Unbuntu03:20
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dec0dingwhat is the name of X11's Development headers package for Ubuntu?03:21
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allison_1984anyone please give me the source lists for apt-get update ?03:21
Ngdec0ding: libx11-dev I think03:21
Inf3ctedFxallison_1984:  hold on03:21
Ng!sources03:22
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:22
Inf3ctedFxallison_1984:  here u have --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/653703:23
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allison_1984ubotu, Inf3ctedFx: thanks03:24
ubotuallison_1984: I don't know, could you explain it?03:24
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oskudesomeone should program ubotu to say "your welcome" when someone says "thanx" or similar :)03:25
allison_1984ubotu: well, I messed up with the old sources update with that of automatix, also can't seem to link with Seveas's update site03:25
ubotuallison_1984: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about03:25
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oskudeallison_1984: ubotu is a bot03:25
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allison_1984oskude: I know03:26
Ngit's also a particularly stupid bot ;)03:26
Ng* > bloot03:26
allison_1984I addressed the mesage to him by mistake03:26
fischican someone tell me in whick package HEAD is included?03:26
oskudeallison_1984: ah ok03:26
oskudefischi: SCNR, apt-get install BODY ;)03:27
allison_1984so again another question ....do I have to change the source list everytime I want to install something new ?03:27
Mabus06lol @ allison_198403:27
Mabus06that never gets old.. people talking with the bot03:27
oskudeallison_1984: no, just once03:27
allison_1984is sooo emabrassed.....03:27
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Mabus06You are far from the first, allison_1984 ;-)03:28
fischinot Brain oskude ?;)03:28
oskudeallison_1984: dont be, nothing "bad" happened03:28
Mabus06It's funnier when people get in arguments with it.03:28
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allison_1984rotfl03:28
allison_1984oskude: normally are there 21 source sites then ?03:29
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oskudeallison_1984: "officially" theres only 303:30
allison_1984oskude: or it differs when I open the restricted format's multiverse/universe ?03:30
allison_1984oskude: ok03:30
apokryphososkude: not really, there's much more.03:31
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oskudeallison_1984: i got only main,universe, multiverse (and their updates)03:31
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allison_1984oskude: are those only for the breezy updates ?03:31
allison_1984oskude: or you have for security too ?03:31
heatxsinkI have a huge problem03:31
heatxsinkdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.9.0.dfsg.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):03:31
heatxsink trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ar', which is also in package xlibs03:32
heatxsinkdpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)03:32
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heatxsinkI don't know what to do help!!!03:32
trappistheatxsink: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.9.0.dfsg.1-1_all.deb03:32
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oskudeallison_1984: sry, ment "security" for main, universe, and multiverse (as update)03:32
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oskudeallison_1984: but i remember they mentioned the differeces of the repos in source-o-matic, or what it was...03:33
rodhello there03:33
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rodi have a Geforce1 card here, and although I am able to install nvidia drivers on all my machines here with ubuntu, this machine fails03:34
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rodi do apt-get  install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-legacy03:34
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rodand then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:34
allison_1984oskude: I am trying to install kstars and I can't update from some of the sources.......have to re do the lists again.....03:35
rodbut xorg.conf doesnt get modified (nv to nvidia)03:35
rodand modprobe nvidia says no such device03:35
CioNhey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package03:35
madgik85Hello, does any one know how to find what version of gtk i have installed? I have Ubuntu 5.1003:35
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DMJCwhat's the MINIMUM hdd for installed ubuntu?03:35
DMJCwith X?03:35
oskudeallison_1984: when ever you modify the sources.list, you HAVE to do "sudo apt-get update" (so you get the list of installable programs in those repos)03:35
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poningruDMJC: I dont remember the exact space but its around a gig03:36
poningruwith a small swap03:37
oskudeDMJC: i remember standard ubuntu beieng like 1.5g03:37
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rodrod@ubuntu:~$ FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device03:37
poningruits around 1.5 gig03:37
poningruwhat he said03:37
Whistlerand some more for swap03:37
allison_1984oskude: hmmmm........some of my updates fail03:37
DMJCwhat aout server?03:37
Whistler300 mb03:37
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Whistlerwithout x03:37
poningruserver would be smaller03:37
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poningrua lot smaller03:37
DMJChow big would X be?03:37
oskudeallison_1984: post in pastebin and say the link03:37
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DMJCall I want is X, metacity, and amusic player03:37
WhistlerDMJC maybe try xubuntu instead?03:38
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allison_1984oskude: right03:38
CioNhey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic03:38
rodYeha xubuntu is prolly whatyou want DMJC03:38
DMJCjust wondering, I have an ubuntu install cd and I want to cram it into a 500mb vmware image is all03:38
oskudeDMJC: xubuntu is a meta package that should install x and xfce403:38
CioNDMJC installa xubuntu-desktop03:38
DMJCI don't want a desktop, just want to access my music in windows03:39
DMJCit's stuck on a reiserfs partition03:39
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CioNuse lice cd then03:39
WhistlerDMJC firstly install ubuntu server then just install xubuntu-desktop package03:39
DMJCand I still dualboot with linux03:39
CioNlive cd03:39
Whistleroh03:39
DMJCoik03:39
rodyeah live cd!!03:39
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nemikhello, is there any way for me to run my shell/bash script as soon as a certain USB device is plugged in?03:39
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CioNhey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic03:40
deFrysk /j #ubuntu-nl03:40
rodanyone familiar with sudo modprobe nvidia03:40
rodFATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device03:40
rod'join #ubuntu-nl03:40
Dr_Willisnemik,  i think the 'removeable' drive controlpanel part of gnome has a entry/setting  for such a task03:40
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silverpowerCan I get Ubuntu to remove Gnome and replace it with KDE completely? I've tried it out and I really don't care for Gnome.03:40
pepsihi there03:41
Whistlersilverpower i think you can03:41
Dr_Willissilverpower,  leave gnome on.. install 'kubuntu-desktop'03:41
apokryphossilverpower: yes. Install kubuntu-desktop and then use debfoster.03:41
Dr_Willismix and match :P03:41
pepsii lost my mouse input somehow03:41
nemikDr_Willis: thanks. i may just want to know how to do it from a terminal for extra-compatible knowledge, but the gnome menu is a good place to start. any hints on where this could be? i haven't seen it before03:41
CioNsilverpower don't mess too much with gnome03:41
apokryphosoO03:42
pepsii need it back so i can save data in vmware :(  they keyboard seems to work a little bit, but not really03:42
Dr_Willisnemik,  from the console/term - thers some sort of udev/auto mount stuff.. but never messed with it befor.03:42
poningrusilverpower: you could have installed kubuntu instead from the begining03:42
poningru!kubuntu03:42
ubotuhmm... kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/03:42
CioNhey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic03:42
pepsii can do control-alt-Fn, and alt-tab seems to _want_ to work, and alt-f4 will try to close the window, but its vmware and i dont want to close it :(03:42
pepsiany ideas?03:42
nemikDR_Willis: great! thank you! i'll start googling around for that.03:42
Dr_WillisCioN,  apt-get has a remove/force option.03:43
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CioNDr_Willis oh man U a genius THX!03:43
megryanhow do you uninstall programmes using command line on ubuntu03:44
oskudemegryan: sudo apt-get remove <programname>03:44
poningrunemik: did you ever figure out that thing?03:44
silverpowerponingru: I only had a ubuntu ISO to work with, and now I'm all out of CD-Rs, heh.03:44
megryanthanks - can't get rid of limewire03:44
oskudemegryan: and to allso remove config files and co "sudo apt-get remove --purge remove <programname>"03:45
poningrusilverpower: if you wait till april you can get kubuntu on shipit, if there are no complications03:45
nemikponingru: think i just got it in GNOME; it is in system -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media. though not as customizable as i want.03:45
poningrunemik: hold on let me see something03:45
trappistnemik: check /etc/hotplug/usb.agent03:45
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pepsiseems that i can run apps via alt-f2.. hrm.. how do i activate mouse keys?03:46
nemikponingru: thanks, that sounds nice!03:46
allison_1984oskude: right...browser's soo slooooooow.........03:46
megryanthanks all03:46
nemiktrappist: thanks for that, looks like what i need. BTW, what is %h in there?03:47
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silverpowerokay, it's churning away at fetching kubuntu-desktop.03:49
rodis it known that it is impossible to install nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR]  (rev 10) on breezy?03:49
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poningrunemik: here check the usb.agent thing03:49
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poningrudoh what trappist said dude03:50
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reynHi, I lost my /boot, is there some easy way of restoring my system ?03:50
e27a04d25hello everyone03:51
nemikponingru: not sure it is in there though. since GNOME has an import thing defaulted for digi-cams, but that does not show up in there, not sure where that command could be referenced from03:51
allison_1984oskude: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/48868903:52
papaIch Gre Jeden in diesen Chat03:53
oskudeallison_1984: reading..03:53
Seicherlanybody experienced with greping a partition directly?03:53
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poningrunemik: hmm03:55
nemikponingru: has this: gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h03:55
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pa_lwhy doesnt ubuntu support Qt????03:56
reynapt-get kde, or just get kubuntu03:57
oskudeallison_1984: hmm, didnt find about that in forums... do you really need cipherfunk.org ?03:57
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pa_lkubuntu supports it?03:57
reynanyone have an idea how I could restore a system that lost it's /boot dir ?03:57
DMJCwhat's the package that provides X?03:58
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DMJCn/m03:58
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oskudereyn: reinstall. (but im pretty sure theres a way to "recreate" /boot, but i never done that)03:58
reyn:\03:59
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pa_lits so stupid not to support Qt03:59
apokryphospa_l: "support" kde?04:00
apokryphos*Qt04:00
oskude"stupid" is so relative...04:00
apokryphospa_l: what do you mean?04:00
silverpowerHow do I force the X server to restart?04:00
Seveassilverpower, <ctrl><alt><bksp>04:00
apokryphossilverpower: ctrl+alt+backspace04:00
e27a04d25reyn, yes reinstall  your ubuntu but first partition your hard drive using GParted located in your Applications menu if you can't find Gparted in your Application menu install it go to system menu then administration point your cursur to add application then find Gparted and check it to install the Gparted, after that go back to application then you can partition your hard disk after the partition transfer all your file to the other partition & reins04:00
e27a04d25tall ubuntu that's all i can say to help you there's no other way but to that to restore your /boot04:00
silverpowerNot what I was thinking of.04:01
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pa_lctr-l +alt + backspace and X will restart silverpower04:01
MathewHello.04:01
SillyZQ: where do I find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9 ( stock kernel ) that comes with ubuntu ?04:01
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Ngsilverpower: what did you have in mind then?04:01
DMJCwhat is the X poackage in ubuntu?04:01
DMJCwhat's it called?04:01
reyne27a04d25, thanks, I'll try partitioning before I reinstall04:01
apokryphosDMJC: xserver-xorg and -common04:01
allison_1984oskude: any notes ?04:01
MathewI was wondering if someone would be able to help me with some simple unbuntu questions.04:02
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apokryphosMathew: ask away04:02
Whistlersure04:02
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oskudeallison_1984: as i said, do you really need that repo that has no GPG key ?04:02
silverpowerSee, normally, the X server restarts if I log out. But on Ubuntu, a simple logout didn't get the server to reload itself.04:02
Mathewhow do I start and stop services? see a list of installed/running services?04:02
reyne27a04d25, is there some way of partitioning an existing system in rescue mode ?04:02
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apokryphosMathew: ps aux; for a list of the top ones, 'top'04:02
Mathewsilverpower.. ctrl+alt+bksp?04:03
allison_1984oskude: not really I guess....so then I delete it ?04:03
Ngsilverpower: log out and then do ctrl-alt-backspace, or do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from a console04:03
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oskudeMathew: the most services are controlled from "/etc/init.d/servicename start" or "stop/restart/reload"04:03
Mathewok.. great04:03
oskudeallison_1984: just put a "#" in front of that line in sources.list, and its commented-out04:03
Mathewbrb.. going to take a look04:03
silverpowerNg: that's what I was looking for, thanks!04:03
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allison_1984oskude: its defnitely taken up from automatix......alright.... thanks04:04
oskudeallison_1984: if youre a newbie, i would advice ONLY to use main, universe and multiverse (definetly NOT backborts)04:04
Mathewstrange.. I know I have sshd running..04:04
Mathewbut can't see it in /etc/init.d04:04
allison_1984oskude: ay ay......04:05
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oskudeMathew: i have etc/init.d/ssh04:05
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Mathewlet me see if thats it04:05
MathewI don't think it is.04:05
e27a04d25reyn, yes as long your system is running & your hard disk is not damaged you can see to it you had the Gparted in the application menu so you can partition your hard disk. are you in safe mode now? can you restart?04:05
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oskudeMathew: do you have "openssh-server" installed (dpkg -l | grep ssh)04:06
MathewI do.04:06
MathewI installed it with apt-get04:06
apokryphosMathew: ps aux|grep ssh04:06
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oskudeallison_1984: im just saying that because the "unofficial" repos may broke your system faster than the "officials" :)04:06
SillyZQ: where do I find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9 ( stock kernel ) that comes with ubuntu ?04:06
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Mathewgot it /usr/sbin/sshd04:07
reyne27a04d25, I dont have a /boot, so I'v booted in rescue mode04:07
MathewI started and stopped ssh in /etc/init.d but that didn't kill the server04:07
reyne27a04d25, from the cd04:07
oskudeMathew: yeah, but the control script for services chould be in "etc/init.d/"04:07
ppdhi everybody ! has anybody noticed gnome trying to "eject" a usb disk with the "eject" command which gives an error04:07
oskudec=s04:07
gnomefreakSillyZ, you should beable to get it from the offical ubuntu site04:07
silverpower...oh, *yay*. Now X won't even start!04:07
gnomefreaksilverpower,  type startx04:08
oskudeMathew: did you do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop" ?04:08
Mathewoskude, no.04:08
Mathewbut it didn't give me an error04:08
erUSULppd, why are you doing it just umount the fs and unplug the usbkey04:08
SeveasSillyZ, ubuntu uses 2.6.12-10 now, enable security updates04:08
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e27a04d25ok then, don't boot for now, just look for Gparted & reply back if you see it04:08
Mathewroot@lappy:/home/mathew # /etc/init.d/ssh stop04:09
Mathew * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                                           [ ok ] 04:09
Mathewroot@lappy:/home/mathew # /etc/init.d/ssh start04:09
Mathew * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...04:09
silverpowergnomefreak: tried that. whined about missing symbols and puked.04:09
erUSULMathew, please do not paste04:09
Mathewand I had an open connection to it that didn't drop04:09
Mathewsorry04:09
ppderUSUL, that's the automatic gnome umount stuff04:09
erUSUL!pastebin04:09
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:09
SeveasMathew, shutting down the server does not close open connections04:09
Mathewreally?04:09
Mathewwow.. that doenst seem right04:09
gnomefreaksilverpower, may i ask why you want 2.6.12-9 instead of 2.6.12-10?04:09
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SillyZSeveas, Ive tried the 2.6.12-10 kernel, and I loose wifi connectivity with it , .9 works fine for me04:10
Seveasit is04:10
Mathewhow would I stop someone from connecting it I coulndt drop connectinos by stopping the service?04:10
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SeveasSillyZ, filed a bug already?04:10
faken_hi folks04:10
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faken_i there somthink like a version file in ubuntu  ?04:10
allison_1984oskude: installing kstars now.....do you think a firewall is necessary for breezy ?04:10
Seveasfaken_, /etc/lsb-release04:10
gnomefreakbreezy already has one :))04:11
faken_thx Seveas04:11
oskudeallison_1984: do you have a dsl router ?04:11
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erUSULppd, i may have misunderstood you but you said that you used eject (only works on cdroms) on an usb disk04:11
allison_1984oskude: I have a nat04:11
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oskudeallison_1984: in the "common" language firewall is mostly just a nat...04:11
joshi_Is Half-Life supported on linux?04:11
ppderUSUL, no gnome does it when umounting the device via the right click menu04:11
SillyZnot yet Seveas its gto something to do with the madwifi ( ath_pci ) driver, dont want to file one til I can pin point it04:12
ppdppd, doesn't hurt as the device gets umounted properly but it's annoying04:12
gnomefreaksilverpower, did X start?04:12
SeveasSillyZ, tried the madwifi drivers from users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas?04:12
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SillyZmmm not yet, but I will :)04:12
silverpowergnomefreak: no. it whined about missing symbols and then died.04:12
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Seveasstock madwifi is broken, this bug has been filed already :)04:12
oskudeallison_1984: i NEVER had software "firewalls" and had no problems (i have dsl router with nat)04:12
e27a04d25reyn, where are you?04:13
ppderUSUL, this "problem" doesn't appear with USB sticks04:13
gnomefreakfirewall is built into kernel in linux04:13
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silverpowerMy Rage128 worked fine on my Gentoo install, with DRI turned on and everything.04:13
allison_1984oskude: I mentioned it because I have the option to install firestart.....but lets say for dial ups and cable internets....04:13
gnomefreaksilverpower,  iim assuming since you restarted X you installed drivers for video card?04:13
allison_1984oskude: you seem to be in a fortress ;)04:13
SillyZSeveas, is there anyway I can rsync just the i386 and i686 sections of the mirror locally ?04:14
silverpowergnomefreak: No, I turned off an option in xorg.conf to re-enable DRI.04:14
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SeveasSillyZ, rsync what?04:14
SillyZthe ubuntu mirror, but just specific arch's04:15
e27a04d25reyn, where are you?04:15
gnomefreaksilverpower,  go back in disable it and let me know if you can start X than04:15
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Seveashmm, dunno, you should ask mirrors AT ubuntu.com04:15
ppderUSUL, it says: eject: Kann nicht auswerfen! Letzter Fehler: Das Argument ist ungltig which means "Couldn't eject! Last error: The argument is incorrect."04:16
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e27a04d25i'm quiting this chat, are you still there?04:16
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oskudeallison_1984: but default ubuntu installation doesnt have any services installed nor running, so attack from outside is minimal even without nat(firewall)04:16
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allison_1984oskude: was curious....04:18
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erUSULppd, gnome umounts the filesystem it does not eject the usbdisk (it only does it with cdroms as i said) and is clear in the contextual menu for usb and disks it says umount the volume (desmontar el volumen in spanish) and for cdroms it says eject (expulsar in spanish)04:18
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simonianhi there04:19
simonianiv'e got problems with centrino04:19
silverpowergnomefreak: the driver was set to ati, I changed it to r128, still no change. I didn't install any drivers.04:19
simoniani can't change the frequencie no mather what i do it is always set to min04:19
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oskudeallison_1984: i even didnt have problems on windoze when i only had a dsl-router nat and no software firewall (but dint ask what happened when i did dial-up and no firewalls, lol)04:20
ppderUSUL, yes the menu says "umount" but it actually performs an "eject"04:20
allison_1984oskude: hmmmm...lots of headaches ?04:20
silverpowergnomefreak: I'm trying a known good xorg.conf from my Gentoo install.04:20
ppderUSUL, I could make a screenshot04:20
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erUSULppd, i do not know why you said it performs and eject. can you point me to the place you read or you learned it?04:21
oskudeallison_1984: the dunny was how fast i got stuff in my windoze (i was only 5min online and had 10 spy/troja/etc stuff running) (well, i wanted that, as it was just a test)04:21
oskude*funny04:21
zool2005quick question, should I use a hub or switch to connect additional computers to my adsl router?04:22
allison_1984oskude: haha04:22
b0riszool2005, switch04:22
silverpowergnomefreak: It complains about missing X11 modules with my Gentoo xorg.conf.04:22
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GenghisKhanzool2005: both will work04:22
zool2005what is the difference?04:22
allison_1984oskude: so what are you running now ?04:22
b0riszool2005, switch shares the available bandwith04:23
allison_1984oskude: dual boot ?04:23
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zool2005ah04:23
GenghisKhanzool2005: the switch will only send the packets to the destination computer04:23
b0riszool2005, hub just splits the bandwith in equal parts, even if no one is using it04:23
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oskudeallison_1984: tripple boot, but no widoze :)04:23
GenghisKhanzool2005: the hub will send the packets to all hosts04:24
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zool2005how do I go about connecting peripherals to a network?04:24
gnomefreaksilverpower, im not sure you can run gentoos xorg file under ubuntu but i do know that if your card is an ati it being set to ati is a good thing ive done this a few days ago with mine :(( after installing ati drivers i changed mine and it didnt work i put it back on ati and worked fine04:24
b0riszool2005, GenghisKhan explanation is better  : ) (anyway, manufacturer mostly sell switches, nowadays)04:24
allison_1984oskude: nice.......what do you do with all of them ? :)04:24
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ppderUSUL, i made some screenshots. I'll upload them. Just a minute04:24
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GenghisKhanzool2005: you mean devices with an ethernet conection or sharing devices connected to a computer?04:25
oskudeallison_1984: i have, breezy, dapper, and debian (just for testing, this whole pc is my test system)04:25
zool2005ethernet04:25
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GenghisKhanzool2005: if you have a dhcp server, just plug04:25
markitoxshello, can anyone know, help me with photoshop installation, it gets frozen after initializing the installshield, i tried with cedega also..04:25
oskudeallison_1984: on my laptop i have breezy and xp04:25
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allison_1984oskude: nice combo....likewise with my laptop04:26
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blue-frogmarkitoxs, use gimp otherwise use windows..04:26
zool2005GenghisKhan, just an appropriate cable required then?04:26
silverpowergnomefreak: I edited the xorg.conf to fix the paths (modules in the wrong places) and it simply dies with the 'no symbols found' error.04:26
b0rismarkitoxs, this is the help channel for Ubuntu here.. I don't think you try to run Photoshop under Ubuntu, right ?04:27
GenghisKhanzool2005: straight ethernet cable will work always04:27
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markitoxsblue-frog nice answer, but just want to fix that installation issue04:27
GenghisKhanzool2005: also, some switches support crossed ethernet04:27
silverpowerthat's with both r128 and ati. Doesn't make a difference.04:27
markitoxsb0ris, sure i do, where's the poblem?04:27
zool2005surely the peripheral requires an ethernet port04:27
oskudeallison_1984: i dont use xp like for anything, but some of my "clients" insist on iexploder compalibity...04:27
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b0rismarkitoxs, thru Wine ?04:27
markitoxssure04:27
gnomefreaksilverpower, this is on breezy?04:27
markitoxsi already installed plenty of win software04:28
ppderUSUL, here: http://home.arcor.de/guenter.federle/screen.tar.bz204:28
markitoxsbut all my photoshops can't get pass thru the installshield screen04:28
allison_1984oskude: lol, I have kept mine only for mixing music...not much of a gamer though.....04:28
silverpowergnomefreak: yep.04:28
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GenghisKhanzool2005: of course, you need an ethernet port in the switch for each peripheral04:29
SatanLvsU2I have to say guys.. I was very impressed with how easy and clean unbuntu is. however it's lacking the administrative tools I'm used to.. am I missing something?04:29
gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, what are you used to?04:29
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oskudeallison_1984: yeah, for those "entertainmet" needs windoze is still usefull (but for gaming, tmw seems enough for me atm :)04:29
DMJCgstreamer multimedia systems selector04:30
SatanLvsU2commands like "service" "setup" "config-"04:30
DMJCwhat's the package for it?04:30
SatanLvsU2redhat stuff04:30
zool2005GenghisKhan, my printer has a usb port, what do I need to connect it to a hub/switch,04:30
blue-frogSatanLvsU2, u must be missing something indeed... system>administration04:30
markitoxshello, can anyone know, help me with photoshop installation, it gets frozen after initializing the installshield, i tried with cedega also..04:30
silverpowergnomefreak: okay, turning back on UseFBDev gives me X again. Let's see if DRI also works now.04:30
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gnomefreaksilverpower,  ok04:30
GenghisKhanzool2005: you can't connect it. you connect it the printer to a computer and then share it through networking04:30
allison_1984oskude: imagine my surprise...vids that won't run on windoze did fine in ubuntu...wow...04:30
SatanLvsU2blue-frog, not much in that list.. no services04:30
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SatanLvsU2no hardward control04:31
gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, what are you trying to do?04:31
gnomefreakno hardware control04:31
SatanLvsU2spoke to soon on that one04:31
SatanLvsU2sorry04:31
gnomefreakah04:31
zool2005I want to be able to share peripherals without the host computer being on, is it poss?04:31
krestenHi everybody! Since I did "sudo dpkg -r w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" I've lost sound on my video files... Can anyone help?04:31
oskudeallison_1984: huh, divx ?04:31
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blue-frogSatanLvsU2, personally i see services but well...04:31
allison_1984oskude: but funnily some dvds won't run...04:31
SatanLvsU2gnomefreak, I'm looking to get a better idea of what's going on with my system...04:31
superchodehow do i navigate to a folder on the desktop through the terminal?04:31
SatanLvsU2service managment for the first thing04:32
uh60pilotanyone know a good proxy checker for linux?04:32
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markitoxssuperchode,  cd /home/USERNAME/Desktop/FOLDER04:32
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oskudeallison_1984: some dvds (layer cake) wont even play on my old harware dvd player :(04:32
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superchodethx04:32
allison_1984oskude: dvd videos04:32
Hendikinsuh60pilot: What are you trying to do?04:32
GenghisKhanzool2005: i don't think so. if your printer hasn't got ethernet, you'll need a computer (or another device working as a computer)04:32
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uh60pilotjust wanting to check the status of a list of proxies04:32
SatanLvsU2blue-frog, you see "System --> administration --> services"??04:32
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blue-frogyes04:32
uh60pilothttp://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html <---- for response time04:33
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Hendikinsuh60pilot: If you want to use those proxies for anonymisation, have you considered tor instead?04:33
zool2005GenghisKhan : or a switch with usb port04:33
blue-frogSatanLvsU2, just under printing04:33
uh60pilottor? no I haven't but does it allow proxy switching?04:33
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SatanLvsU2I see, printers, shared folders04:33
murr-what's te best program for ripping audio cds?04:33
SatanLvsU2greaaaaat.04:33
Hendikinsuh60pilot: Read: http://tor.eff.org/04:33
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uh60pilotgoing there now04:33
GenghisKhanzool2005: don't think that it exists, and if it does it would be for ethernet over usb, not managing a printer over usb04:34
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allison_1984oskude: well I gotta check out kstars...looks very grooveeee...... :)04:34
erUSULppd, it seems that you whare right. i did not know that gnome uses eject with usb drives. i'm afraid i can not help you... :(04:34
silverpowergnomefreak: DRI also works. Gentoo prefers UseFBDev turned off, but apparently Ubuntu prefers it on.04:34
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gnomefreakmurr-, thats not gonna get you a spiecfic answer :(( but try gnomebaker or k3b04:34
GenghisKhanzool2005: printers without ethernet lack a printer server and most also lack postscript interpretation, so they need a computer managing them04:34
oskudeallison_1984: never tested..04:34
ppderUSUL, thank you very much ! :-) hopefully somebody knows a solution...04:35
taomaster having a hard time opening up a tar.gz file. anyone with a step by step help04:35
zool2005GenghisKhan : nevermind, I'll have to make do then04:35
superchodemarkitoxs: it's not allowing me to navigate to the desktop or beyond04:35
Hendikinsuh60pilot: If you feel you must use something like that, or you're behind the great firewall of china, it is a better solution than using random proxies.04:35
SatanLvsU2brb04:35
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markitoxssuperchode, why?04:35
GenghisKhantoamaster: tar zxvf file.tar.gz04:35
superchodereturns no such file or directory04:35
blue-frogtaomaster, use nautilus (file explorer) or tar xzf file.tar.gz04:35
markitoxssuperchode,  go to terminal04:35
markitoxscd /home04:36
gnomefreakcool silverpower im glad you got it04:36
markitoxsthen04:36
allison_1984oskude: its like the google earth concept...but for stars04:36
markitoxscd USERNAME04:36
superchodeyeah, that works04:36
oskudeallison_1984: ah ok, sounds nice04:36
superchodethen 'dir' shows 'Desktop'04:36
markitoxsnow cd Desktop04:36
superchodebut i can't cd to it04:36
WhalidHi, anyone tried to develop database front ends with Glom?04:36
allison_1984:))))))))04:36
markitoxswhat does it say?04:36
markitoxswirte with capital D04:36
WhalidI am wondering if there is a better solution...04:36
superchodei've tried all combos of caps/no-caps04:37
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markitoxstype cd D and then tabulate04:37
murr-gnomefreak: well, in windows world the best is clearly Exact Audio Copy. i was just wondering if there would be something equally superior for linux04:37
GenghisKhanmurr-: you have flac04:37
blue-frogmurr-, sound juicer, audacity...04:37
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superchodek, i see what i was doing wrong now04:38
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SatanLvsU2blue-frog, should I find my unbuntu disk and see if there is a system administration package I'm missing?04:38
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superchodedoesn't want too see a '/' in front04:38
superchodeto*04:38
krestenHi everybody! Since I did "sudo dpkg -r w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" I've lost sound on my video files... Can anyone help?04:38
superchodethx for the tabulate tip04:38
blue-frogSatanLvsU2, don't understand your question04:38
apokryphoskresten: install it, then04:38
apokryphoskresten: that command would remove it04:39
Blippeis it only speed i am losing if i use the sources instead of the debs in the reps?04:39
SatanLvsU2I assume that because I don't have "services" under system administration that it's because I didn't install a package to manage services04:39
SatanLvsU2I honestly don't remember04:39
SatanLvsU2it was a while ago04:39
blue-frogSatanLvsU2, what kind of install did you do?04:39
SatanLvsU2Perhaps there is a way to tell what build I'm running and see how behind i am?04:39
blue-frogSatanLvsU2, uname -r04:40
krestenapokryphos,  My bad... I copied the wrong line it was of course with the -i option...04:40
poningrukresten: you uninstalled the 'codec' you have install it again04:40
gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, are you on breezy? if so it should be there by default under the default install04:40
poningruoh04:40
apokryphoskresten: you don't get sound *after* you installed that? In every single player?04:40
SatanLvsU2how can I tell?04:40
ppdso, does anybody know how to tell gnome not to "eject" my usb disk?04:40
blue-frogSatanLvsU2, uname -r04:40
gnomefreakuname -r what kernel does it say?04:40
gnomefreak2.6.........04:41
blue-frogSatanLvsU2, or click question mark on your taskbar...04:41
SatanLvsU22.6.10-5-38604:41
krestenapokryphos, just tryed mplayer. Totem doesn't seem to work properly on my system...04:41
bettong_BOFHhow do you get ubuntu to tell you how much hard drive space it has in human speak? in terminal?04:41
SatanLvsU2on a p2 400Mhz laptop04:41
apokryphosbettong_BOFH: df -h04:41
bettong_BOFHthank you04:41
oskudeppd: make an entry in /etc/fstab and mount it manually (dunno howto tell not to automount usb thou)04:41
silverpowerSatanLvsU2: ctrl-alt-F1. It should say something like 'Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" zetagundam tty5'04:41
gnomefreakis that hoarys kernel?04:41
apokryphoskresten: hm, try with something like xine.04:41
osfameronany suggestions how I can fix my cupsd?04:41
osfameronIt won't startup complaining "Child existed with status (13|99)!"04:42
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gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, run uname -a it will tell you more info04:42
GenghisKhangnomefreak: no, it's 2.6.12-10-68604:42
blue-frogbettong_BOFH, df04:42
osfameronnot changed printers.conf or cupsd.conf that I remember04:42
osfameron!cupsd04:42
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, osfameron04:42
gnomefreakGenghisKhan, that is breezys kernel04:42
ppdoskude: I wanted to make it work with gnome-volume-manager automount04:42
apokryphososfameron: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart     doesn't help?04:42
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SatanLvsU25.04 hoary hedghog04:42
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SatanLvsU2a little behind the times then...04:43
GenghisKhangnomefreak, oh yes, i mistook the names. yes 2.6.10 is hoary04:43
oskudeppd: dunno04:43
osfameronapokryphos: aha, I'm stuck in a big maze of twisty manpages, didn't come across that incantation04:43
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gnomefreakSatanLvsU2,  ok thought that was hoarys kernel  i didnt use hoary for more than a day :((04:43
ppdoskude: thank you04:43
murr-ok, thanks to you all04:43
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SillyZSeveas, well this is quite intresting , updated to .10 like you said, and still have device ath0 ( wifi ) dunno what the deal was before, maybe it was just the laptop that lost it04:43
gnomefreaki would think that it would still havet he services selection tho04:43
tencois there a ubuntu developer channel?04:43
osfameronapokryphos: nope, exited with 99 again04:44
gnomefreaktenco, not really04:44
apokryphoscurious04:44
apokryphostenco: yes, #ubuntu-devel04:44
kemikyes04:44
kemik#ubuntu-devel04:44
tencoapokryphos: thanks04:44
SatanLvsU2hmmm.04:44
gnomefreakapokryphos, not really its normally empty04:44
SatanLvsU2oh well. Time to start all over again04:44
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oskudeppd: what i ment, i dont quite understand you, you dont want gnome to "eject" (unmount?) usb-flash and you want to use it with gnome-volume... and automount... ?!04:44
apokryphosgnomefreak: it has 147 users -- not what I call empty.04:44
DMJCw00t04:44
DMJCmusic04:44
DMJCrhythmbox + ubuntu + X04:45
gnomefreakeverytime ive gone there it was empty :((04:45
osfameronapokryphos: is it worth reinstalling cups or something?  (This is where I wish I had bothered to version control /etc...)04:45
apokryphosgnomefreak: maybe you were going to -dev?04:45
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krestenapokryphos, Well just tried, but x froze...04:45
apokryphososfameron: this is a really windoze solution, but it might be easy to do a restart.04:45
SatanLvsU2what kind of nix is unbuntu? debianish?04:45
Hendikins147 users is more than #firefox (120)04:45
apokryphosSatanLvsU2: yes. See /msg ubotu relationship04:45
GenghisKhanSatanLvsU2: yes, it's debian derivate04:45
gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, its based on debian if that is what your asking04:45
ppdoskude: see these images: http://home.arcor.de/guenter.federle/screen.tar.bz2 This describes my problem...04:46
SatanLvsU2yep, just curious04:46
osfameronapokryphos: clean reboot 4 hours ago, but I guess I'll try that...04:46
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oskudeppd: looking...04:46
SillyZhow can one install kde3.5.0 on ubnutu? ( wife is a kde fanatic ) .... is it possible to run both on the same system under ubuntu?04:46
SillyZjust apt-get install kde?04:46
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tuckerGoodday.04:47
gnomefreakSillyZ, add the kubuntu repo and update than install it :))04:47
apokryphosSillyZ: you can have them both running fine. You need to add another repo for 3.504:47
bipolarnope. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:47
apokryphos!kde 3.504:47
ubotukde 3.5 is, like, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php04:47
osfameronhrmpf, .../cupsys stop then start doesn't give an error (but doesn't seem to start cupsd either)04:47
SillyZok thanks04:47
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tuckerI've got a question about the usb module, how can I make sure a usb external HD is mounted automaticly?04:47
SatanLvsU2I have to say.. ubuntu is very clean... never had an install or interface be so easy or clean04:47
SatanLvsU2downloading 5.10 now04:48
SillyZok why do I get fixdep.c errors when attempting to make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux?04:48
tucker5.10 is verry stable!04:48
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SillyZ5.10 rocks :)04:48
oskudeppd: hmm...04:48
Seicherlanybody experienced with filerecovery on ext3?04:48
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ppdoskude: it's german but you should get what I mean04:48
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=== gnomefreak really really likes this alacarte menu editor wish they had this in breezy :((
oskudeppd: start terminal, type "mount" and see where your flash is mounted, and try "umount /path/to/flash" and see if you get any usefull error messages (np, i can german too)04:49
SatanLvsU2just the fact that there is an IRC client installed that takes me right here when I open it is a bonus04:49
SatanLvsU2ONE complaint..04:49
sorush20I keep getting DVD palyback complete freeze.. I have amd 64 32000 (2ghz) running on Asus A8v motherboard, 521 ram 4oomhz, kubuntu 386 Sata segate 7200 rpm ... Do I need to  install anything special for the sata to work like dma for sata or anything else?04:49
SatanLvsU2brown???04:50
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gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, change it04:50
apokryphosSatanLvsU2: not on KDE :D04:50
silverpowerThat, and relatively modern kernels, heheh.04:50
SatanLvsU2the startup though04:50
apokryphosSatanLvsU2: blue for kubuntu ;-)04:50
gnomefreakthe start up is blue after a kubuntu -desktop install04:50
SatanLvsU2I already changed my theme04:50
SatanLvsU2I'm talking about the OS startup04:50
gnomefreaki really like the blue on black04:50
gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, yes we know04:51
SatanLvsU2hmm, ok..04:51
SatanLvsU2how would I change it>04:51
gnomefreakwhere it says ubuntu and the mod load04:51
gnomefreakmods04:51
silverpowerDo I have to change my repositories in order to use kubuntu?04:51
SatanLvsU2I kinda like gnome04:51
apokryphosSatanLvsU2: you can have the kubuntu one with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:51
ppdoskude: umounts cleanly. no error messages. I have to add that also in gnome the disk gets umounted correctly ! It's you this lousy error message04:51
gnomefreakinstall kubuntu-desktop :))04:51
apokryphossilverpower: no, but if you want the latest version of kde you will have to, yes.04:51
gnomefreakthe log in screen is easy to change  but the loading screen not so easy04:51
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apokryphossilverpower: /msg ubotu kde 3.504:51
tuckerq04:52
oskudeppd: hmm, maybe a bug...04:52
silverpowerapokryphos: ah, saw that message and assumed I'd have to fiddle with repositories.04:52
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gnomefreakkubuntu-desktop04:52
apokryphos#kubuntu has been getting steadily bigger, too04:52
apokryphosas has this chan =)04:53
gnomefreakthis channel has been getting alot busier lately04:53
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gnomefreakthats a good and bad thing04:53
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SatanLvsU2will installing kubuntu screw up my gnome desktop?04:53
apokryphosno04:54
gnomefreakno SatanLvsU204:54
SatanLvsU2k04:54
veklitahello04:54
SatanLvsU2and I'll be able to swtich between the two>04:54
gnomefreakhi04:54
ppdoskude: hm :-(04:54
gnomefreakSatanLvsU2, yes from log-in screen04:54
harfoozhi all. I want to the Gnome calendar applet to start the week with Sunday, but it's currently starting with Monday. How do I change that?04:54
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sorush20could someone please let me know how I can translate this page to english?04:54
sorush20https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanSATAHowto04:54
gnomefreakon the log-in screen you will see sessions that is where you choose what desktop to boot into04:55
gnomefreak!sata04:55
ubotugnomefreak: What?04:55
silverpowerIt's strange, and the good folks on #gentoo-ppc will probably ream me out for this, but I actually like both Gentoo and Ubuntu now. It picked up everything except for DRI and mouse button emulation.04:55
veklitaI have a powerbook with a mostly dead hard drive, and i currently have it booted on an Ubunto Live CD04:55
oskudeppd: btw. "man eject" doesnt mention anything about usb-flash sticks...04:56
gnomefreaksilverpower, ubuntu is much easier than gentoo to install/use/configure/everything else04:56
veklitaAnd I'm wondering how I might try to mount the hard drive to get access to it and try and recover some dayta04:56
veklitadata^04:56
ppdoskude: It's not a flash stick, it's a harddisk attach on the usb port. I don't get any error messages with my usb stick04:56
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bakpao!keyboard04:57
ubotubakpao: I haven't a clue04:57
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bakpao!help04:57
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silverpowerveklita: what was the machine running?04:57
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veklitaOS X 10.404:57
veklitait won't boot anymore, but what it will do is boot into "single user mode"04:58
marcus_./nick Catweazle04:58
veklitaessentially it boots into Darwin with the hard drive as read only04:58
UniqueNameCan someone help me get widescreen working with my laptop ubuntu or gnome does not like widescreen to much (my xorg file is setup correctly for widescreen)04:58
SatanLvsU2installing now04:58
SatanLvsU2fun fun fun04:58
veklitaand in that mode I can see all of my files04:58
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Catweazlehi zusammen04:58
Seicherlanybody experienced with filerecovery on ext3?04:58
veklitabut I can't remount as read write04:58
SatanLvsU2of course, it will all be wiped once I have the other disk burned.04:58
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silverpowerveklita: ...What generation of Powerbook are we talking here? you're running Ubuntu, so I assume you have a G3?04:59
veklitapowerbook g404:59
Catweazleppd ?04:59
veklita15" aluminum04:59
sorush20Do I need to set up DMA for sata?04:59
veklitaabout 2 years old04:59
silverpowerveklita: Do you have another mac?05:00
Ngsorush20: no05:00
veklitayea, i'm on it now05:00
silverpowerveklita: one with a firewire port?05:00
veklitabut target disk mode wouldn't mount the drive05:00
veklitayea05:00
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silverpowerveklita: ah, that was going to be my suggestion.05:00
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osfameronOK, for my cupsd problem, I've enabled logging, and the error appears to be " StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Cannot assign requested address."05:01
veklitai spent all day yesterday trying stuff and so far i've got nothing, and the guys at apple didn't have any suggestions either05:01
veklitabut its weird that i can mount the drive in single user mode you know?05:01
osfameronwhich is odd, as it seems to work for colleague with no change.05:01
SatanLvsU2anyone here use gentoo?05:01
ppdCatweazle: im query05:01
silverpoweranyway, it's mount -t hfsplus /dev/hda<x> /path/to/mount05:01
veklitawhere do i find the x though05:02
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silverpowerveklita: through the magic of 'mac-fdisk -l', lol05:02
erUSULosfameron, maybe another instance of cups is already bind to the port. or other program. do 'netstat -putan | less' to check it05:02
silverpowerSatanLvsU2: I do. What's up?05:02
veklitasilverpower: doesn't list it05:02
silverpowerveklita: my bad! mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda05:03
UniqueNameCan someone help me get widescreen working with my laptop ubuntu or gnome does not like widescreen to much (my xorg file is setup correctly for widescreen)05:03
SatanLvsU2just moving from one distro to the next comparing (as much as a newb can)05:03
SatanLvsU2what do you think of the packaging system>?05:03
veklitait lists: /dev/hdc1 Apple-partition-map 1k and /dev/hdc2 Apple_HFS unubtu 658MB05:03
GenghisKhanUniqueName: which is the problem?05:04
silverpowerveklita: no /dev/hda? that's a problem.05:04
veklitasilverpower:  that command gives me a "can't open file" error05:04
osfameronerUSUL: from my client PC?  nothing there binding to that port or IP05:04
silverpowerveklita: Oh, boy. That's not good.05:04
GenghisKhansilverpower: some kernels mistake a ibook/powerbook hard drive as /dev/hdc05:04
UniqueNameGenghisKhan, the problem is that i cant select the widescreen thing in gnome and i need widescreen05:04
UniqueNameGenghisKhan, xorg is setup correctly05:05
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veklitais there a command to get more info about /dev/hdc105:05
silverpowerSatanLvsU2: I like it, though there's a LOT to watch out for, and it's not for someone who is not willing to slave over it.05:05
veklitai.e. how it's connected05:05
GenghisKhanUniqueName: i don't use gnome nor have widescreen, but afaik the desktop should span all the screen wide05:05
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GenghisKhanUniqueName: do you get black bars at the sides?05:05
UniqueNameI just read a thing on google that said it could be because its a new laptop and a new screen05:05
CodenameKTUniqueName. I have widescreen on xorg but run flux05:06
UniqueNameno the screen is just stretched05:06
thegladiatora very fundamanetal doubt , is 256 MB RAM good enough for GNOME , many of my applications tend to close out of the blue05:06
CodenameKTunique:merged fb stretched or what?05:06
blue-frogveklita, df /dev/hdc1, but not sure that's what you want..05:06
silverpowerveklita: hmm. /dev/hdc is showing your CD drive.05:07
veklitagives me a no such file or directory error05:07
zool2005can anyone tell me how to get the panel at the bottom of this screenshot please? : http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=157810041405a8436d52f1&p=screen05:07
gnomefreakthegladiator, yes it should be fine05:07
thegladiatorgnomefreak, whats yours ?05:07
gnomefreak51205:07
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thegladiatorit should be fine , but its been a good experience . nau-restartilus and other programs havent gievn me a good experience05:08
thegladiatornot been*05:08
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veklitayea, in the device manager, it doesn't list anything on the IDE device where the hard drive should be05:08
gnomefreakgnome should run fine on 256ram not great but fine. are you sure its the ram causeing your issues?05:08
harfoozMy Gnome calendar applet starts each week with Monday, rather than the desired Sunday, but I don't see how to fix this. Does anyone know how to change that setting?05:08
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veklitadoes anyone know if it owuld be possible to mount a firewire hard drive while booted into darwin with read only access to the drive?05:09
gnomefreakthat looks like a custom xfce menu bar05:09
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thegladiatorgnomefreak, none of the users are experiencing these problems . a wide variety of programs tend to close out of the blue05:10
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thegladiatorhence I dont think its a dependency issue05:10
silverpowerveklita: In Linux, yes. In Darwin, it should work.05:10
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thegladiatortell 212 if the programs can run , and close like that . it shud be the memory issue aint it ?05:10
veklitawill it work with my iPod do you think?05:10
blue-frogveklita, to play with firewire disks your user must be member of disk group05:10
silverpowerveklita: Maybe. Does it show up as a valid Firewire device normally?05:11
veklita(i should have said originally read only access to the boot drive)05:11
gnomefreakthegladiator, does every app close or just a few?05:11
veklitayea, let me go get it from upstairs, be right back05:11
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thegladiatori cant say every but many have close in the recent past05:11
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thegladiatorlike a azureus , firefox,mozilla , Xchat! , and few java clients...05:12
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thegladiatorthese aer the stuffs i Use frquently05:12
thegladiatormost of them have close nad not to forget nautilus05:12
gnomefreakjava uses a crap load of ram to run05:12
thegladiatorthats one possibility05:12
gnomefreakazureus is java also05:12
thegladiatoryes05:12
silverpowerthegladiator: How big is your swap file?05:12
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thegladiatorswap file ?05:13
thegladiatorpartiion?05:13
silverpowerswap partition, I mean.05:13
thegladiator1 GB05:13
gnomefreakthegladiator, yes swap file05:13
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Ngand how much RAM do you have?05:13
gnomefreakpartion05:13
thegladiatorhow do i check that again ?05:13
silverpower! that should be plenty.05:13
ubotusilverpower: Are you smoking crack?05:13
gnomefreakthats why big enough05:13
thegladiator25 MB DDR :(05:13
Ng256mb?05:13
Ng1.25gb is easily enough05:13
gnomefreak25605:13
sorush20how do I improve the dvd play back its a little fuzzy round the edges of the images?05:13
thegladiator256*05:13
NgI wouldn't go blaming java just yet05:13
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olicatwhats the best way of backing up my hard drive onto cd's?05:14
gnomefreakNg,  he was blaming ram05:14
Ngespecially not with "helpful" statements about its memory usage ;)05:14
thegladiatorhow do i check my swap size again ?05:14
Ngthegladiator: free05:14
gnomefreak256 should be fine to run gnome05:14
thegladiatorshud be fine ,but with java programs that I run I suspect there is some shortage05:14
veklitai can only find a USB connector for the iPod05:15
gnomefreakthegladiator,  run the command free05:15
veklitaso i'll try that05:15
ProzacHmmm if i fucked my firefox up good, how would i do a clean re-install? at the momment when i start it, it says starting firefox and then it closes again05:15
thegladiatorhow can  check my swap and does the actie programs uses SWAP ?05:15
thegladiatoryes05:15
silverpowerthegladiator: I would say your actual module is what's leading you into the Land of Random Segfaults and Kernel Panics.05:15
veklitai don't know if it will work since this is a 3g ipode05:15
gnomefreakthegladiator, the free command should give you used ram05:15
thegladiatorSwap:      1028120     195712     83240805:15
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thegladiatorsilverpower, whats the fix you would suggest ?05:15
thegladiatorthere are many segfaults i encounter05:16
LabThugCan't locate Date/Manip.pm in @INC   is this added through synaptic or Perl's CPAN?05:16
J0eWoo hoo, finally running linux05:16
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thegladiatori dont know the workarounds for these things yet05:16
silverpowerthegladiator: Replace your memory. That's all you *can* do.05:16
thegladiatorJ0e, welcome :)05:16
Ngthegladiator: I think you should install memtest86+ and test your ram05:16
J0eis their anyway I can run half life 2 on linux?05:16
gnomefreakthegladiator, are you on breezy?05:16
NgJ0e: it just about runs in cedega, maybe even in wine05:16
thegladiatoryes breezy05:16
NgJ0e: cedega isn't free thogh05:16
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Ng+u05:16
thegladiatornope05:16
gnomefreakhmmmmmm05:16
thegladiatornot dapper05:16
thegladiatori got the breezy cd actually05:17
thegladiator5.1005:17
thegladiatorlet me instyall memtest and give a try05:17
gnomefreakthegladiator, dapper is having issues with segfault05:17
thegladiatori see05:17
silverpowerJOe: Not on wine. Cedega, maybe, if you pray to Linus or something.05:17
gnomefreakthats why i thought that05:17
thegladiatori dont try unstable things actully since there a few important things that i don on this system05:17
thegladiatorNg, lets say the memtest gives me a good result05:18
thegladiatorwould it still be a problem with the ram ?05:18
thegladiatorheavy loading of RAM ?05:18
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silverpowerJOe: Steamless HL1 will probably work, but that's it.05:18
veklitahmm05:19
thefishanyone know of a network switcher (to switch between wired/wireless) that understands wpa? i dont want to use wep!05:19
thegladiatori cant run memtest86+ from terminal or can I ?05:19
veklitai plugged in the ipod and got a bunch of messages05:19
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silverpowerveklita: are you in Darwin or Ubuntu atm?05:19
veklitaextension com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSeirlaButProtocal blah blah has no kernel dependency05:19
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veklitaDarwin05:19
thefishanyone know of a network switcher (to switch between wired/wireless) that understands wpa? i dont want to use wep!05:19
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silverpowerveklita: Oh, FUN.05:20
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aedesis there a way to geta clock to appear on the task bar?05:20
silverpowerveklita: Try connecting your other machine via Firewire.05:20
thegladiatorNg, if the memtest runs fine ? then there aint no need to upgrade RAM to 512 ? like can I assume that the problem is not with the RAM?05:20
GenghisKhanJ0e: hl2 will work on cedega http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=6005:20
Ngthegladiator: if memtest runs fine then the problem is not with your ram05:20
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thegladiatorsegfaults can be caused at random if the memory is 256MB ?05:20
veklitasilverpower: i'd have to restart05:20
veklitaand wouldn't be in irc05:20
silverpowerno OSX IRC client installed, I take it?05:21
thegladiatorNg, wonder then what could cause this . I havent done much after the fresh installation as to modify anything or such things05:21
Ngthegladiator: segfaults shouldn't ever happen at random05:21
thegladiatorah05:21
veklitano, you don't get to use OS X and be in target disk mode05:21
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Ngthegladiator: they are normally caused by bugs, but if running one application is upsetting the rest of your system then I am tempted to think it is the ram05:21
hkhi! Im adding a printer thats hosted in a windows box, the printer wizard detects it ok... but then it asks for user/password but I havent set user/password for that printer, is there a default username/passoword ? (using breezy)05:22
thegladiatorah05:22
thegladiatorRAM wud be  good bet I guess05:22
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silverpowerveklita: well, it's worth a shot. mount the remote machine read/write and pray. :)05:22
JoeBlowHey guys, can I run the normal linux drivers for my video card when im using 64 bit ubuntu?05:22
Ngyou will need 64bit drivers05:23
JoeBlowi wonder if i can find 64 bit ati drivers05:23
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Ngthey ought to be included05:23
JoeBlowin linux?05:23
Ngsee the BinaryDriverHowto wiki page05:23
Ngin ubuntu :)05:23
JoeBlowalright trhnx05:24
JoeBlowthnx*05:24
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thegladiatortime for a restart05:24
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zool2005JoeBlow, I would recommend using the i386 version of Ubuntu unless you really need the 64bit version as I found it to be a pain to find 64 bit apps etc05:24
Dr_WillisI agree with zool200505:25
Dr_Willisi reinstalled the 386 just because of that.05:25
aedesthefish, I thought hostap could handle that05:25
aedesaedes, do you mean a bridge?05:25
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thefishaedes: not checked out hostap, just found netapplet05:26
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thefishwill look ,thanks05:26
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JoeBlowwhats the best media player to use with ubuntu?05:26
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Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  depends on the media.. and wjhat you want it to do.05:26
KyralJoeBlow: Like so manythings in the Linux world, its a matter of opinion :D05:26
Dr_Willis:)05:26
LabThugJowBlow, enable the multiverse collections and then install mplayer, that plays the most types of files05:27
JoeBlowwhats the basic standard for mp3, avi, mpeg video05:27
Dr_Willisvideo = vlc,mplayer,xine05:27
KyralI prefer VLC and Xine for video05:27
Dr_Willismp3 = kaffine, Juk, xmms, beep-media-player05:27
KyralBeep Media Player hands down for Audio05:27
JoeBlowok, great vlc on linux, i used that on windows05:27
JoeBlowalright05:27
JoeBlowi just want simple05:27
JoeBlowbut usable05:27
Kyralbasically if you love WinAmp, then you'll love XMMS and Beep05:27
Dr_WillisI still find some video files that i cant play under linux or those players.05:27
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JoeBlowand vlc works with dvds normaly as well?05:28
yanchengany gnomebaker here? may i noe how to perform multisession burning for dvd?05:28
Crazy_ManJoeBlow, I haven't had much success with that...:\05:29
JoeBlowwihc version of linux is ubunti, this has like suse, debian, red hat, mandrake ect...05:29
silverpowerDr_Willis: IMO, if the person encoding the video didn't bother to use a decent format, I won't bother watching it.05:29
fantomikJoeBlow: Ubuntu is based on GNU/Debian.05:29
JoeBlowok thnx05:29
Dr_Willissilverpower,  it seems to me more of a bug/issue with the linux vlc/mplayer - since under windows vlc plays them05:29
JoeBlowthanks for helping out so much, you guys are great, this was bar far the easiest linux to install, and operate so far05:30
Dr_Willissilverpower,  it may be they used too new/cutting edge of a coedec.. or it may be some issue in the linux players.. hard to tell.05:30
Dr_Williswe are getting way to many different video format/codecs these days.05:30
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pozdiy!tell me about wireless05:31
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pozdiy'/msg ubotu wireless05:31
mahangu!avidemux05:32
ubotumahangu: No idea05:32
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spyhi all05:33
spywhats that win32 emulation program05:33
JoeBlowshit, installing this stuff is complex, where do i type in all this stuff?05:33
oskudespy: wine ?05:33
mahangu!transcode05:33
ubotumahangu: I don't know05:33
spyyeah thanks05:33
spyhehe this is so sweat, im running my msn messenger, Xmms (winamp), mail, mounted my ntfs (ro ofcoursE)05:33
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oskudemahangu: you could try to find those in ubuntuforums.org05:34
JoeBlowdo i use this vlc 2.1.4.1. Debian stable (woody)05:34
mahanguoskude, thanks, will do05:34
spyha yes thats the next thing for me 2 dl05:34
spyvlc05:34
Dr_Willis!info vlc05:34
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB05:34
LabThugAnyone in here done anything with CPAN?05:34
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fantomik!info linux-kernel-68605:35
fantomik(just checking ;-))05:35
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  you dont want to be just downloading the packages.. set up your repo right. and use 'sudo apt-get install vlc'05:35
fantomik!info linux-image-68605:35
ubotulinux-image-686: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB05:35
spycan i create a shortcut on my desktop that launches gnome-terminal using the ROOT user?05:36
JoeBlowDr_Willis how do i do that? Im sorry im lke 3 minutes into linux05:36
Maelstanyone had problems with networking after installing but not when using the Live CD?05:36
silverpowerIs there a way I can modify the standard Breezy kernel .config? I'm really getting annoyed with the lack of certain kernel features not being turned on.05:36
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  the ubuntu wiki covers  adding the different repositories..05:36
JoeBlowok thanks05:36
spyPS 'sudo apt-get install vlc --> 'sudo apt-get install vlc05:36
JoeBlowill quit asking stupid questions05:37
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  also check out the 'restricted formats' wiki page.05:37
spyE: Couldn't find package vlc05:37
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fantomikMaelst: live cd is based on mephis (at last it was last time I checked) so it have very different startup scripts (and probably even kernel image). So it can differ.05:37
Dr_Willissame answer for SPY :P05:37
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thegladiatorhow do i install xfce in synaptic ?05:37
thegladiatori cant see nothing called xfce as such05:37
oskudethegladiator: try "xubuntu-desktop"05:37
Maelstfantomik: it certainly does differ, one works, the other doesn't05:38
fantomikthegladiator: add universe and multiverse repositories in synaptic05:38
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thegladiatorit has been done already05:38
thegladiatorhow do i do a simulation of the same ?05:38
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thegladiatorto know the file size before installing ?05:38
oskudethegladiator: did you do "sudo apt-get update" after adding universe and co ?05:39
thegladiatoroskude, yes...been using ub for a while05:39
oskudethegladiator: "apt-get -s ..." = simulation05:39
fantomikMaelst: yeah, as I said it inits in completly differ manner. maybe check what network card you have and then try to manually load aproperiate modules in ubuntu.05:39
rene_hi!!!05:39
rene_how is everybody here?05:39
Chousukefine.05:39
rene_hi chousuke05:39
rene_!!05:39
ubotu??05:39
Chousukeheh :p05:40
thegladiatorthegladiator@thegladiator:~$ sudo apt-get -s xubuntu-desktop05:40
thegladiatorPassword:05:40
thegladiatorE: Invalid operation xubuntu-desktop05:40
Maelstfantomik: yes, perhaps... was hoping for a simple solution. Like that'll be a first for me !05:40
thegladiatoris it a group install ?05:40
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thegladiatorsomething like that ?05:40
Chousukethegladiator: typo05:40
Pygiwelcome people :)05:40
Crazy_Mannote to self: changing grub splash screen can mess stuff up05:41
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thegladiatorwheres the typo ?05:41
Chousukeaptitude install xubuntu-desktop05:41
GenghisKhanthegladiator: sudo apt-get -s install xubuntu-desktop05:41
fantomikthegladiator: sudo apt-get -s install xubuntu-desktop05:41
rene_somebody speak spanish??05:41
aedesis the print admin tool from ubuntu? cause its annoying that its pretty much readonly05:41
Chousuke!es05:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:41
Pygirene: ubuntu-es05:41
thegladiatorthanks05:41
gnomefreakanyone know where i can find a .deb for anjuta1.2.4?05:41
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Pygignomefreak: repos?05:41
gnomefreakPygi, no05:41
Pygignomefreak: please do not use anjuta, thank you :)05:41
gnomefreaknot in dapper05:41
fantomikaedes: sudo gnome-cups-manager # it works for me ;-)05:41
oskudethegladiator: you can use "-s" with apt-get to simulate anything it can (remove, install, etc...)05:41
gnomefreakPygi, i like anjuta05:41
thegladiatori see05:42
Pygignomefreak: well, Anjuta is not good :)05:42
thegladiatorhow much wud XFCE be ?05:42
thegladiatorI will have to close down synaptic05:42
rene_ok...thanks05:42
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thegladiatorif i need to run the command05:42
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aedesPygi, why not?05:42
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thegladiatorcan someone gimem a quick estimate of xubuntu-dekstop ?05:42
thegladiatorfile size ?05:42
Pygiaedes: cause VI is better :)05:42
oskudethegladiator: yes, you need to close synaptic for apt-get install05:42
gnomefreakaedes, its fine he just doesnt like it05:42
thegladiatoranything under 100MB wud be fine05:42
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thegladiatoryes . its already in installation stage now05:42
thegladiatorjust need give a yes05:43
fantomikgnomefreak: anjuta 1.2.4 is in dapper.05:43
thegladiatoris xubuntu more than 100 ?05:43
Pygiaedes: I recon that it is good to people, it's just not good for me :)05:43
oskudethegladiator: i think it will ask you if you really want to install (and shows the download size)05:43
thegladiatorMB05:43
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thegladiatorlet me try05:43
gnomefreakfantomik, unless they just added it it shouldnt be but i will look05:43
Pygignomefreaky: why don't you compile 2.0.1?05:43
aedesPygi, well if that{s the case then don{t ask others not to use it, since it might work for them05:43
Chousukeit'll show the download and expanded size05:43
fantomikanjuta:05:43
fantomik  Installed: 1.2.4-1build105:43
thegladiator23 MB needs to be downloaded05:43
fantomikand I have dapper.05:43
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Pygiaedes: heh, I was just joking :) people use what suits them, and not everybody uses the same thingy :)05:44
thegladiatorso is xubuntu a distro like ubuntu /kubuntu ?05:44
gnomefreakfantomik, you didnt have to compile it?05:44
Pygi!xubuntu05:44
rene_see you....and thanks05:44
ubotusomebody said xubuntu was Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu05:44
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aedesfantomik, that's what I'm referring to, the properties are pretty much readonly once you setup the printer05:44
Pygignomefreaky: why don't you compile 2.0.1?05:44
fantomikgnomefreak: nope.05:44
gnomefreaktheres a bug says you need to get the tar from anjuta05:44
gnomefreakhmmmmmm05:44
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gnomefreakPygi,anjuta2 doesnt work on dapper05:44
Pygifreaky: ah, well ...05:45
thegladiatorxfce has  a good fan fare ?05:45
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fantomikaedes: hmmm... maybe :-) I had only created few printes with it and doesn't needed to change anything.05:45
Pygigladiator: what bothers you?05:45
Dr_Willisxfce is a decent window manager/desktop/05:45
thegladiatorPygi, I am installing XFCE05:45
fantomikthegladiator: just google for it ;-)05:45
daskogHello to all05:45
Pygigladiator: go ahead then :)05:45
HendikinsDumb question. Is there an easy way to link to a *section* of a wiki page when adding a new doc to the wiki?05:45
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thegladiatoryeah been googling . but nothing really tells the user base05:45
gnomefreakfantomik, what repo is it in cause its not in mine :((05:46
mahangu i installed avidemux via a .deb file05:46
thegladiatori went to xfce site05:46
mahangunow i cant find it05:46
Pygigladiator: it has its own preety user base :P05:46
mahanguman -f avid gives me nothing05:46
fantomik *** 1.2.4-1build1 005:46
fantomik        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages05:46
thegladiatorah :p05:46
Crazy_Manthere's only one thing I don't like about xubuntu05:46
gnomefreaknm i found it05:46
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Crazy_Manxffm never works quite right for me05:46
Dr_WillisCrazy_Man,  yea. the file manager has issues.. theres a few alternatives however05:47
gnomefreaklast time i got it from repos it was 2.0 :((05:47
thegladiatora simple effective check is to go to #xfce and check how many ppl are there :) thats what i do to get an idea of popularity of something05:47
fantomikCrazy_Man: I use krusader/konqueror [with xfce]  ;-)05:47
JoeBlowso how do i run apt get?!!05:47
Pygi!apt05:47
ubotu[apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto05:47
daskogIs Gnome-Look.org the only place with awesome Gnome themes?05:47
Pygisudo apt-get05:47
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Crazy_Manfantomik, does it mess up the desktop?05:47
mahangudaskog, art.gnome.org05:47
devil86ciao05:47
thegladiatordaskog, art.gnome.org05:47
Dr_Willisdaskog,  i think freshmeat has a theme section as well05:47
gnomefreakJoeBlow, what are you looking to run apt for?05:47
daskogtnx05:47
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thegladiatoryes even freshmeat05:47
devil86cercavo enrico05:48
Crazy_Manwhich is better, krusader or konqueror?05:48
fantomikCrazy_Man: I don't know, I use konq only for file browsing (I hate having icons on the desktop).05:48
thegladiatormy PC looks like WIN Vista almost05:48
thegladiatorvery pleasin look05:48
Crazy_Manfantomik, I have no need for icons on a linux box05:48
Pygigladiator: huh, Vista looks bad :)05:48
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fantomikCrazy_Man: it depends ;-) krusader is like nice old norton commander. konq is like windows explorer.05:48
Crazy_Manalt-f2 everything ;)05:48
thegladiatornope :) thats the only thing thats good in VISTA05:48
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Dr_WillisGotta love the 2 pane window managers!05:49
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Crazy_Manbut everything is just one bar, not two like gnome05:49
Crazy_Man(which kinda pisses me off about gnome)05:49
thegladiatorwell you gotta give it to them for researching and finding the best wallpaper . i am sure 10K engineers have toiled hard to find the VISTA wallpaper...its so nice05:49
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thegladiatorhowz Xfce Crazy_Man ?05:50
Dr_WillisI tend to just use a solid color... i must be a Ludite!05:50
mahangui did dpkg -i avidemux****.deb, and now i cant find how to execute the programme. any ideas?05:50
gnomefreakthegladiator, where did you find it?05:50
Crazy_Manthegladiator, still instaling ubuntu-base05:50
Despenis there a swedish ubuntu channel?05:50
thegladiatorthe wall paper ?05:50
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Pygi!sw05:50
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ubotuPygi: Are you smoking crack?05:50
gnomefreak!sw05:50
Pygiomg, ubotu, please kill urself :) thank you :)05:50
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thegladiatorgnomefreak, just google images for windows vista . u see a green grasss background05:50
Despen!sw05:50
thegladiatorthas just amazing05:51
Pygino, no again :/05:51
thegladiatornot anymore :) then05:51
gnomefreaki thought sw was sweden05:51
bshumatesweden is se05:51
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Crazy_Manhttp://www.plig.org/xwinman/screenshots/xfce-horen.jpg05:52
Crazy_ManI do like how they positioned the menus05:52
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iKsthello05:52
thegladiatorvery nice . but XP look is dull i guess05:52
JoeBlowim stil not sure where i type in apt get05:53
thegladiatorbrb05:53
gnomefreakfantomik, can you open anjuta please in dapper let me know if it opens please05:53
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gnomefreakJoeBlow, what are you looking to do?05:53
fantomikJoeBlow: just use synaptic -- it is a graphical frontend to apt.05:53
iKsti have a problem with installing ubuntu on powerbook g3. Installation process goes by without errors, but when i try to log in i only hear gnome chimes but there is no desktop05:53
iKstonly mouse pointer05:53
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install <package>   sudo apt-get remove <package>05:53
JoeBlowsynaptic isnt letting me install VLC05:53
gnomefreak!info vlc05:54
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB05:54
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Despen!se05:54
ubotuDespen: What?05:54
gnomefreakJoeBlow, do you have universe repo enabled?05:54
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JoeBlowi dunno, i just started linux, im like 10 minutes into it05:54
gnomefreakubotu tell JoeBlow about repos05:54
gnomefreakubotu tell JoeBlow about sources05:55
spyhey um so does any1 know the console command for run as user?05:55
Kyralsu05:55
Kyralwait what user05:55
spyroot05:55
GenghisKhanspy: su user05:55
gnomefreaksudo -i05:55
LFAhi all05:55
spyi want to create a shortcut on the desktop that boots into terminal with root permissions05:55
Kyralisnt there a Root Terminal option05:56
Dr_WillisKyral,  i thought i saw one on the live cd.05:56
gnomefreakif he enables it there is05:56
gnomefreakits hidden by default05:56
spymm, dont know, at the moment i go.. APPS--->SYSTEM-->RUN AS USER-->gnome-terminal05:56
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Dr_WillisOh yea. the 'terminal sessions"  option05:56
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gnomefreakspy,  go into your menu editer and look under system tools put a chek where you see root terminal05:56
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gnomefreakchek/check05:57
spyokay thats system-->Administration-->??05:58
rodanyone experience with getting the nvidia-glx-legacy to work?05:58
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rodmine fails during modprobe05:58
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rodFATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device05:58
rodalthough nvidia.ko is on that location05:58
C-O-L-TI need a download manager for linux which after finishing the download shuts down my computer05:59
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Ngrod: are you sure you have one of the legacy cards?05:59
Pygicolt: modify wget :)05:59
Pygi!wget05:59
ubotuPygi: I give up, what is it?05:59
Crazy_Mancan some tell me the lines I need to add to souces.list for the plf repos?05:59
xbox_skyHey Evryone! for some reason I can't access my dvd-r, it gives me an error "unable to mount" device is write protected, how do I get past that error? im trying to make a backup of my already burned data cd (UDF)05:59
rodNg,  nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR is what i use (lspci) and that's a gforce 1 card05:59
JoeBlowok thanks guys that worked great05:59
ooPoAhoy! I installed kdevelop3 on breezy, went to project->new project->C->Simple Hello world program, hit F9 to run it... and it wants to use visualboyadvance to run it. Strange!05:59
C-O-L-TI need a download manager for linux which after finishing the download shuts down my computer06:00
PygiCOLT: modify wget :)06:00
Ngrod: hmm, is that not in the non-legacy driver?06:00
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C-O-L-TPygi: I have kget. How please say to me06:00
fantomikgnomefreak: yeah. it doesn't I'll try to strace/ltrace/gdb it a little.06:00
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spyah this ubuntu is so cool... hehe i have vlc to working condition hehe... movies yippeee06:01
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pozdiygot Netgear WG311 card under breezy, anybody knows how to check if system sees it?06:01
fbockstaeldoes someone know how to install jre06:01
PygiCOLT: go into source code, and modify it :)06:01
Pygi!java06:01
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:01
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Pygi!javadebs06:01
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy06:01
xbox_skyyeah but having DD5.1 is hard in VLC/linux06:01
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rodentfiftysixhey, i am trying to get dvds to play in totem movie player... It will not let me play them. It says I may need to install the right plugins, where can I get them and how do I install them?06:01
gnomefreakty fantomik it says to install it 1.2.4 from anjuta.com in the bugs im searching bugs for a different fix06:01
rodeverything from gforce 2 and earlier is in legacy according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia06:02
rodNg,06:02
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fbockstaelill have a look06:02
Pygi!dvd06:02
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:02
spyhey thanks for ur help guys06:02
Ngrod: ah, that's quite strange. I'm not sure, to be honest, but it might be worth trying the regular nvidia driver package too06:02
yanchengmy linux completely no sound. either mplayer, xmms.... wat thing i need to start to trouble shoot?06:02
rodNg, i tried the normal glx package, but it gave the same error06:02
Pygi!restricted06:02
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:03
Pygiyancheng: read ubotu06:03
Pygi!FreeFormats06:03
ubotusomebody said freeformats was There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats06:03
rodNg, I know how to install nvidia drivers... done it on about 4 systems before without a hitch... It's just this computer06:03
Ngrod: that sounds like a bug in the driver then, it's not detecting your card06:03
rodNg, the nv driver works just fine though (except for the opengl of course)06:03
yanchengPygi: u mean type command "read ubotu"?06:04
Pygiyancheng: no, just read what ubotu told you :P06:04
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yanchengwat is ubotu? the brother of ubuntu?06:04
spyhas any1 goten wine to work for playing starcraft?06:04
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Pygi!ubotu06:04
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.06:04
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oskudePygi: i think you wanted to answer to someone else ?06:04
nandasunuI have a really simple/dumb question06:05
Pygioskude: huh, on what question? :)06:05
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oskudeyancheng: had problems with "no sound", not audio formats06:05
tbwAnything I can do to make DVD playback not suck?06:05
CodenameKTspy I am pretty sure it is playable under ubuntu06:05
oskudeyancheng: had problems with "no sound", not audio formats Pygi06:05
spyokay so under SPM which package do i choose?06:06
spywinesetuptk?06:06
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gnomefreakwhy would they remove a bug if its not fixed :((06:06
CodenameKTspy. no u use apt-get wine06:07
oskudeyancheng: to start, you could look where your soundcard/chip is connected (isa,pci,usb), what chip it has...06:07
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CodenameKTspy. winesetuptk is a setup util if u would like to use06:07
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spyoh thanks06:07
CodenameKTspy. the description is in the header06:08
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PuMpErNiCkLemorning06:08
greenpenguin13afternoon06:08
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oskudeevening...06:09
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spywhat comes before apt-get?06:09
tbw!dvd06:10
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:10
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gnomefreakspy sudo06:10
gnomefreaksudo apt-get blah blah blah06:10
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spyyeah but u need to go sudo apt-get "some command" wine06:11
spyinstall works for me :-)06:11
thegladiatorany XFCE users can help me ? we will talk private06:11
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spyhow do i remove a folder? in console, rm doesnt work it says the object is a folder06:12
Ngspy: rm -r for folders, or rmdir06:12
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BlueEaglespy: rmdir06:12
spyty06:12
gnomefreakok found the fix but make spits out errors gonna look into this again i think06:12
BlueEaglespy: if the folder is not empty you need to rm -r06:12
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY06:12
BlueEaglec-o-l-t: so?06:13
spyokay thanks.. rmdir workek (cause the folder was empty) but ill remember that06:13
xbox_skyUDF disks are not just a problem fo Linux. Not all disks written on one windows box will be usable on another windows box06:13
xbox_skyOMG06:13
xbox_skythat's just....06:13
greg__!usb06:13
ubotugreg__: What?06:13
BlueEaglexbox_sky: a bad standard?06:13
xbox_skyit doesn't make any sense at all06:13
DayTurnsNight!ace06:13
ubotuDayTurnsNight: I haven't a clue06:13
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greg__!usb key06:14
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, greg__06:14
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greg__ubotu listvals06:14
xbox_skyblue, nah UDF is bootable in EVRY OS on earth that's why a lot of people use it as a backup alternative06:14
xbox_skyUniversal Disc Format06:14
xbox_skymy dvd will play it, xbox, windows,unix etc06:14
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xbox_skyexcept linux06:14
greg__!windowsmbr06:14
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, windowsmbr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows06:14
gnomefreakdoesnt source forge have .debs?06:15
kino-takhi gentlemen, anybody uses h323 client for ubuntu06:15
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xbrucexdvd+rw-tools, in specifc growisofs has been giving me headaches up the wall, so far i've burned three coasters with my PIONEER DVR-110D ...i think this is just too new and barely supported...ugh06:15
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spyfat chance of getting Visual Studio 2005 to work on linux?06:15
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Raven^hello, I'm a new user06:16
BlueEagleHello new user raven^.06:16
Raven^I'm trying to set up a ftp server on here,06:16
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kino-takhi raven06:16
Raven^and i've tried to follow the directions but i've had several problems with it06:16
BlueEagleraven^: install proftpd and read the manual. :)06:16
Raven^hey everyone06:16
daskogDoes Ubuntu 5.10 x86-64 Support my AMD X2 4400? or is a kernel update needed?06:16
kino-takI have a vert good site that could help you06:16
CodenameKTanyone know how to use fuse for mounting ftps?06:16
Raven^whats the site kino-tak?06:17
BlueEagleraven^: Either that or start with your 1st problem and take it from there.06:17
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gnomefreakfantomik, the fix is in 1.2.4a im guessing its a patched version im gonna try compiling it again06:17
GenghisKhandaskog: it should06:17
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fantomikgnomefreak: ok.06:17
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: If it boots, it's probably not a kernel problem...06:17
BlueEaglekino-tak: give him tubgirl. :)06:17
eulerIs there a corresponding log file that reports which modules loaded and failed on boot? and if so, where is it?06:18
daskogOk. just making sure. I read to much =P06:18
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kino-takraven, check this site : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7958806:18
gnomefreakfantomik, if it works thins tim ei will let you know06:18
mahanguwhat is aclocal1.806:18
fantomikeuler: you can read 'dmesg' for error messageg from modules.06:18
kino-takI did it, and It works, I only have problem with the user account06:18
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BlueEagle!proftpd06:18
ubotuBlueEagle: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about06:18
fantomikgnomefreak: thx.06:18
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gnomefreaknp06:18
eulerfantomik: thanks.06:19
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dax_how can i get javac-command working? i have installed jdk.06:19
gnomefreaki really hate this download box bug :((06:19
kino-takraven : it works with proftpd and gives you a lot of good advices and a configure06:19
Raven^thanks, I'm reading it now :)06:19
slibscan you guys help me a bit with "make" i get this error when running http://pastebin.com/48887806:19
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gnomefreak!info javac06:19
dax_thanks06:19
kino-takyou are welcome, let  me know if you have problems with the users created following the istructions (I had, we can check them out togheter)06:20
gnomefreakdax_, i saw a javac in the repos but what repo it is in is beyond me06:20
kino-takgnomefreak....you see, I'm contributing to the channel after only 1 week following ubuntu installation06:20
kino-takI'm very proud of myself!!!06:20
gnomefreakkino-tak, good job06:21
kino-tak;-)06:21
dax_gnomefreak,  ok06:21
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MastherOnixhi06:21
trappistwoah, ntfs write support in 2.6.1506:21
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mahangutrappist, really?06:22
slibstrappist: it's something for "little files" or something06:22
mahanguwow06:22
slibsi was fired up too when i first saw that06:22
oskudetrappist: only for modifying existing files06:22
trappistslibs: no, it doesn't handle highly fragmented files, and it can't create new 'sparse' files, but otherwise it's fully supported06:22
thegladiatorconsidering stability issues with gnome , i am going to try kde as well06:22
thegladiatorgnome uses more memory than kde ?06:22
trappistoskude: no, that's how it's been up until now.  2.6.15 just came out late last night.06:23
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slibswell what ever, it's not really something you can call write support, but it sure is better than what it was before06:23
trappistoskude: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.1506:23
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thegladiatorare there ppl here who use kde ? and not kubuntu as such ?06:23
thegladiatorinstalled kde on ubuntu ?06:23
antdengineeris it ok to turn off paranoia in sound juicer?06:24
GenghisKhanthegladiator: more or less the same. welcome to the flame06:24
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antdengineermy ripping is sooo slow!06:24
fantomikthegladiator: I'm using some parts of kde ;-) [eg. konqueror] 06:24
thegladiator:)06:24
SatanLvsU2gdm or kdm?06:24
GenghisKhanthegladiator: yes, i use kde06:24
oskudewell, my source (heise.de) says making new files or deleting files isnt implemented...06:24
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Raven^ok, i have run into one problem06:24
thegladiatorah did you configure gnome to discard nautilus ?06:24
SatanLvsU2anyone else?06:24
Raven^which might be the real issue to why im having this06:25
antdengineerand turinign on hparm doesnt do anything06:25
SatanLvsU2going once...06:25
thegladiatorgdm , thinking of swticking to kdm06:25
SatanLvsU2thats two votes06:25
Raven^sudo apt-get install proftpd i use that command06:25
SatanLvsU2tie breaker anyone?06:25
Raven^and it tells me to run apt-get update and i do06:25
Prozacis there a way to restore the original bar in the top?06:25
Raven^but then it tells me to run it again after i hit update06:25
thegladiatorlets not have a flame war , but GenghisKhan , did you switch over stability uses or pure artistic reasons ?06:26
CodenameKTanybody running gmailfs currently?06:26
oskudetrappist: could you copy me the line where they say making new files or deleting new files on ntfs are now supported ?06:26
antdengineerplease!, someone must rip cds here06:26
thegladiatoruses->issues*06:26
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Estel|ukyes they do antdengineer, but I'm not sure what the answer is06:26
thegladiatorgnome has been a mem hog . not to blame gnome but my mem , 256 MB RAM06:27
GenghisKhanthegladiator: didn't switch. i have use kde my whole life. i tried gnome but i didn't get used to the apps06:27
trappistoskude: search for 98b270362bb9ea6629732e7f5b65b8a6ce4743c706:27
thegladiatorah06:27
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antdengineeri just dont know if turning off cdparanoia matters, because it doubles my ripping speed06:28
trappistantdengineer: what do you mean by 'turning on hdparm'?06:28
thegladiatori am checking if my 256 MB RAM is causing the instability issue or the dektop06:28
antdengineernot sure what it is but in the forums people said it could help06:28
antdengineerit didnt06:28
trappistantdengineer: ripping is two steps - copying the audio off the cd, and encoding - which part is slow?06:28
sambagirlanyone know of a game oriented linux distribution for someone who wants linux version for gaming and the such?06:28
antdengineerripping06:28
trappistantdengineer: maybe I forgot to mention, ripping is two steps.  which is slow, copying or encoding.06:29
Pegasos989How do I change maxium stack size of pthreads?06:29
kemiksambagirl:  nope06:29
Raven^is there a port that needs to be opened specially for apt-get update?06:29
kemiksambagirl:  do you mean like "play windows games"?06:29
antdengineercopying06:29
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Pegasos989Raven^, no, but you need to add reposotories06:29
thegladiatorsambagirl, lady try out http://distrowatch.com06:30
antdengineer1.8X or so06:30
trappistantdengineer: what does `sudo hdparm -d /dev/<device>` say, where device is your cdrom06:30
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sambagirlok thanks06:30
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antdengineerwhen i turn it using -d1 it all says on if not it all says off06:30
CioNhey all i need to remove a package with apt-get but it won't uninstall, anyone can help me?06:31
oskudetrappist: i can only read "files can now be extended using the normal write(2) code path." (no mention of making new files, but if your 100% sure it works, ok...)06:31
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antdengineermaybe im activating it wrond06:31
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antdengineer*wrong06:31
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OneSeventeenIs "Secure FTP" (SFTP) really just SSH-based file transfer?06:32
oskudetrappist: and if you can "talk" german, please report it to heise.de :) (as they say its not possible)06:32
antdengineertrappist: when i turn it using -d1 it all says on if not it all says off06:32
Pegasos989CioN, does it not unistall through synaptic package manager either?06:32
CarlFKOneSeventeen: "yes"  but no... ;)06:32
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antdengineertrappist: maybe im activating it wrong06:32
daskogWhat linux distroe would you recomend for a LAptop? specs P3 833Mhz, 256mb ram. i whant it to be faster than windows xp Lol...06:33
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CioNPegasos989 no06:33
trappistoskude: making new files is still problematic06:33
CioNPegasos989 i'ts a bad package06:33
thegladiatorwhen can we expect drapper ?06:33
thegladiatorstable06:33
trappistantdengineer: -d1 is correct06:33
CarlFKdaskog: Ubuntu06:33
CioNPegasos989 I need to remove it by force06:33
OneSeventeenCarlFK: at work I use dreamweaver, and at home I use "secure telenet and FTP", and I just want to make sure I can uninstall vsftpd without loosing the ability to transfer files06:33
Raven^(gedit:6582): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:06:33
Raven^Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.06:33
antdengineertrappist: is paranoia needed in juicer?06:33
Raven^whats that mean06:33
daskogi tried Ubuntu on it, but it was slow! slower than windows XP06:33
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gnomefreaka tar is the full app always right? like they wouldnt just put a patch in a tar?06:34
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trappistantdengineer: I dunno, I've never used juicer, but I imagine it supports more than one ripping engine06:34
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antdengineerwhat do u use?06:34
CarlFKOneSeventeen: I 'think' you need an sftp server.  but if all you have is sshd and ftpd, then I 'know' you can dump the ftpd06:34
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trappistantdengineer: grip or abcde06:35
sorush20I have Benq, keyboard how do I get the extra function buttons to work on the ubuntu?06:35
Ngpretty much every openssh server supports sftp out of the box06:35
Ngit rocks06:35
cvt|gnuyearHow do I remove the password protection in bios in order to install ubuntu?06:35
antdengineertrappist: do u know anything about paranoia with ripping06:35
polpakcvt|gnuyear, open the box and cap the jumper for your bios reset06:35
Ngerk06:36
CarlFKah - then never mind my "sftp server" - friend told me thats what he had setup, but maybe he just meant "im using sshd now"06:36
Ngyou might want to not do that ;)06:36
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trappistOneSeventeen: unfortunately there's some confusion about "secure ftp".  it's probably referring to ftp with an ssl wrapper, which is not what openssh's sftp is06:36
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Raven^might i ask if someone can pm me for a lil help?06:36
polpakcvt|gnuyear, you'll need to look for which jumper it is in your user manual06:36
GenghisKhancvt|gnuyear: you can also remove the clock battery and let the bios reset06:36
trappistantdengineer: not much, but I do know that if dma is not enabled on your drive, things are going to be slow.06:36
noddabaI'm looking for an editor that can 1.) fold functions, and 2.) print the file with these folds in.  I've found plenty of editors that can do 1.) but none far that can do 2.).  What I'm trying to do is get an "index" or "table of contents" of functions in a class, to make code reviews go smoother.06:37
mahanguneed to record .mpeg to a vcd, any suggested tools?06:37
noddabaanyone have any suggestions?  I've tried Bluefish, Anjuta, Eclipse, and a few others06:37
trappistnoddaba: I don't think vim prints folded blocks out of the box, but it's plenty extensible enough to be convinced to do it06:38
CarlFKdaskog: you may need to mess with video drivers - that can make the box seem much faster, even though it takes the same amount of time to do the same task06:38
CioNhow do i forcefuly uninstall a package?06:38
gnomefreaknoddaba, try vim or emacs?06:38
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SeveasCioN, dpkg --force-something -P $package06:38
Seveasfor legal values of 'something' -> man dpkg06:38
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noddabatrappist, yeah, I'm having trouble with gvim.  I'm trying to get it to use gtklp so I can do two up per page, but I'm having trouble setting the 'printexpr' command06:38
CioNSeveas can u be more specific i'm noob06:38
CarlFKdaskog: but how fast it "seems" is pretty important - people get edgy  if it seems slow06:39
casaholaa?06:39
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daskogCarlFK, This old laptop i have uses a Bad S3 graphics chip06:39
SeveasCioN, read the manpage, it lists all options06:39
Seveashi casa06:39
noddabagnomefreak, vim yes.  emacs no.  Don't know it well enough :-/06:39
trappistnoddaba: never got much into vim printing myself, but #vim is full of helpful people06:39
CioNSeveas of dpkg?06:39
SeveasCioN, yes06:39
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CioNSeveas ok thx06:40
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daskogCarlFK, I just whant a fast distroe for this old Laptop so it can be usefull again06:40
gnomefreaki really wish they would implement this patch in repos :( or updates even06:40
SatanLvsU2brb06:40
trappistdaskog: one distro is about as fast as another - what you're looking for is a fast desktop, maybe fluxbox or wmaker.06:41
mahanguor xfce06:41
trappistor xfce06:41
gnomefreaki might have just spoke too soon lol my updater just came on06:41
CarlFKdaskog: my GF uses ubuntu on a P3-800, no special video drivers.  it isn't as spiffy as my P4, but it isn't that bad either.06:41
fantomikor BeOS (if it is an old laptop) ;P06:41
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CarlFKdaskog: you can also install other window managers like flukebox, icebox? , ratpoisen, etc...  that will be more spunky than gnome06:42
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PuMpErNiCkLetwm06:42
trappistCarlFK: I don't think you spelled any of those right :)06:42
trappistCarlFK: flukebox=fluxbox, icebox=icewm, ratpoisen=ratpoison06:43
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CarlFKtrappist: very likely - I was just explaining to a friend why I am such a poor spelle ;)06:43
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CarlFKlol06:43
ManifoldHow do I install a .jar file, guys?06:43
CarlFKwow.06:43
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trappistManifold: java -jar filename.jar06:43
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fantomikManifold: jar files are not installable (mostly ;-))06:44
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trappistManifold: that assumes a properly installed java vm06:44
damnhilHOW do I enable/disable init services?06:44
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fantomikman update-rc.d06:45
trappistdaskog: sudo update-rc.d -f servicename remove06:45
trappistor that06:45
gnomefreakwhat is smart-update?06:45
PuMpErNiCkLerm -rf /init      (not really)06:45
spyish06:45
ManifoldHow do I install a java vm, trappist?06:45
spyi ran wine "c:\starcraft\stacraft.exe" and it crashed but now my desktop is in 640*48006:45
spyhehe06:45
ProzacHow can i get the original panel06:45
Prozacpanel/bar in the top back?06:45
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trappist!tell Manifold about java06:46
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fantomikProzac: ctrl+alt+-06:46
yaaaranybody have a minute to look at a really weird problem with autoloading dvd's? short description here: http://pastebin.com/48891406:46
Manifold!java06:46
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:46
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spyhow can i force my refresh rate to 85hz?06:46
polpakspy, ctrl,alt,+06:46
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adamhWhen I click "Applications" the menu shows up then disappears immediately. I've seen this on both my Ubuntu computers (Dapper). Anybody know how to fix it?06:46
Dr_Willisspy,  :) try that gnome-change res thing.. and switch it to some other res then back. to get the size back06:46
trappistspy: the + on your numpad06:46
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gnomefreakadamh, run sudo apt-get install menu06:46
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Prozacthanks fantomik06:46
gnomefreakits a known issue with dapper06:46
Thiagokjzshduiashdasd06:46
adamhgnomefreak: Woo, thank you!06:47
adamhI should've come here and asked weeks ago :P06:47
Crazy_ManHow do I install a window manager theme in xfce?06:47
gnomefreakadamh, it happens right after kubuntu-desktop install06:47
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adamhgnomefreak: Anyway, thanks again :)06:47
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gnomefreakadamh, not a problem06:47
spyctrl+alt+ "+" is like a global zoom06:48
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Dr_Willisspy,  now try alt-ctrl numpad -06:48
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hikenboothow do i enable root username for use with xfce?06:49
hikenbooti changed the root password06:49
trappisthikenboot: you don't06:49
Dr_Willisyou mean you set a root user password?06:49
hikenbootneed to have a gui printer installer that requires it06:49
hikenbooti have set the root password06:49
trappisthikenboot: you launch your gui printer installer via sudo06:49
hikenbootno longer a problem the directions i found said to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc06:50
hikenbootbut i am not using kde06:50
hikenbootusing xfce06:50
Maniquihi. Ubuntu is hanging up on boot. It hangs up afther the line that reads: "Syncronizing time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org..... [OK] "  (or something similiar)06:50
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Maniquiit used to work few weeks ago.06:50
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alexissofthi06:50
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OneSeventeenI have winSCP, dreamweaver MX 2004, and all the standard linux-based ssh clients, and I just ran /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop and all my "Secure FTP" stuff still works, is there any reason I should keep vsftpd?06:50
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mahanguVCD burning software, ayone?06:51
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OneSeventeen(I am about to remove vsftpd via apt-get and just want to make sure it won't impact file transfer via SSH)06:51
GNULinuxermahangu: vcdimager06:51
trappistmahangu: there's a vcdtools package06:51
trappistand that06:51
fantomikOneSeventeen: it won't.06:51
GenghisKhanOneSeventeen: no if you don't use regular ftp06:52
rob#ubuntu-nl06:52
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OneSeventeencool, I was using regular FTP until I realized you could use ssh for file transfer in dreamweaver (it's what the rest of my team uses)06:52
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OneSeventeenso I should just have to run: apt-get remove vsftpd correct?06:53
mahangutrappist, vcdtools is a GUI?06:53
OneSeventeen(as root)06:53
mahanguOneSeventeen, as sudo, yes06:53
trappistmahangu: I don't think so06:53
mahangutrappist, is there a gui one?06:53
mahangui have k3b, but it wont open06:53
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OneSeventeennice, it works great now, with no FTP server running!  (that's one less hole!)06:54
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trappistbleh.  apt-get remove dbus results in sudo telling me "sudo: unable to lookup grasshopper via gethostbyname()"06:56
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trappistgrasshopper of course being my hostname.06:56
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sethktrappist, add grasshopper to your hosts file and make sure hosts is there for dns in nsswitch.conf06:57
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trappistsethk: neat trick without sudo06:58
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_NautiluS_bjour06:58
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MrFaberhi06:58
MrFaberHas anyone experiences with touchpads and scrolling with two fingers like Mac OS?06:58
_NautiluS_Bonne anne a Tous et toutes06:58
sethktrappist, not really, just do su to get this problem fixed06:58
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_NautiluS_ptite question ?06:58
trappistsethk: neat trick without a root password :)06:58
_NautiluS_jai downloader ubuntu cd install06:59
daskogtrappist, sudo update-rc.d -f servicename remove <- what does this do?06:59
sethktrappist, set the root password06:59
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_NautiluS_ya pas de fichier BOOT ?06:59
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trappistsethk: without sudo?06:59
sethktrappist, using a rescue boot06:59
_NautiluS_sa marche comment06:59
trappistbleh.06:59
_NautiluS_???06:59
_NautiluS_:)06:59
gnomefreakok i now feel like the stupidest man on earth :((06:59
sethktrappist, bleh?  that's what you have to do.  just do it06:59
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gnomefreakive been trying to cd into a tar for the last 20 mins than just now relixed i have to unpack it first :((07:00
trappistsethk: I'm just pissed because it was caused by uninstalling something without which all this should still work07:00
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sethktrappist, oh, I agree, but still, now you have to fix it07:00
trappistgnomefreak: yeah, tarballs are not directories ;)07:00
spynow that is unfortunate gnoefrak07:00
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gnomefreaktrappist, i remember now lol07:00
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gnomefreakis it possible to find out if they will implement the patch for anjuta in dapper?07:01
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yaaaranybody have a minute to look at a really weird problem with autoloading dvd's? short description here: http://pastebin.com/48891407:02
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Nggnomefreak: if you want a patch in, contact the ubuntu maintainer, or file a bug07:03
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gnomefreakthe bug has been filed their fix is to get the 1.2.4a tar07:03
trappistyaaar: try changing the filesystem in /etc/fstab to 'auto'07:03
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yaaartrappist: k one sec07:04
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trappistbbiab, looks like I hafta reboot.07:04
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dueyfinsterI am trying to do a list of Ubuntu progs similar to Win (in hope people will see they can change). Can anyone give me good resources or help editing?07:04
gnomefreakhb07:04
yaaartrappist: do i need to reboot also?07:04
dueyfinsterI am trying to do a list of Ubuntu progs similar to Win (in hope people will see they can change). Can anyone give me good resources or help editing?  http://ubuntu-ie.org/Wiki/Alternatives/Windows07:05
dueyfinsterSorry forgot link07:05
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sas171hi, I have some problems with my Kubuntu 5.10 on boot time. It stop booting while Battery state checking... I installed Kubuntu 10 minutes ago and changed only pppoeconf and xorg.conf... at the first boot time all was right. some ideas?07:05
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gnomefreakdueyfinster, win users can get x-chat for free now07:07
spyis there an alternative to wine?07:07
polpakspy, lol07:07
spyim having a headache with wine07:07
gnomefreakyes windows07:07
sas171spy: cross-over office =)07:07
gnomefreaklol07:07
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polpakspy, oh, I see what you mean07:07
polpakspy, I thought you were looking for a windows alternative to wine07:07
dueyfinstergnomefreak: Some articles contain outdated sources, thats why I need help.07:07
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polpakspy, are you using the latest release from winehq?07:07
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sas171spy: try wine-tools07:08
gnomefreak!ubuntu07:08
ubotu[ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards07:08
emanuelezhello! any easy way to install skype?07:08
polpak!skype07:08
ubotuwell, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/07:08
zadok2kanybody know where I can find wine .9.307:08
dueyfinster!wine07:08
jocke1sHi all, I need help with fstab. Why is this not working?07:08
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jocke1ssudo fdisk -l | grep hdb[12] 07:08
jocke1s/dev/hdb1               1        1275    10241406    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)07:08
jocke1s/dev/hdb2            1276        4983    29784510   83  Linux07:08
jocke1scat /etc/fstab | tail -207:08
jocke1s/media/XP       /dev/hdb1       vfat   rw,user,noauto  0       007:08
jocke1s/media/EXTRA    /dev/hdb2       reiserfs rw,user,noauto  0       007:08
dueyfinster wine is probably a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq07:08
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gnomefreakjocke1s, DO NOT paste in here use pastebin07:09
zadok2knew version crashes my app07:09
jocke1sgnomefreak: oops. What is pastebin?07:09
HendikinsJust a quick question. Did I do a decent wikification of my existing material in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins ?07:09
polpak!wine07:09
gnomefreakjocke1s, type /topic and read it07:10
jocke1sok07:10
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gnomefreakdueyfinster, there was a page that kind of the same thing you are doing i just cant remember the site07:10
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PygiHendikins: will go look now07:10
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Hendikinshttp://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html is the existing doc that was wikified07:11
fam1is it possible to install a bot like gnomefreak on a private channel ?07:11
gnomefreakfam1, im not a bot :((07:11
fam1:)07:11
MastherOnixalop07:11
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sas171=)07:11
dueyfinstergnomefreak, tell me if you do, it will come in handy07:12
gnomefreakand yes i can be installed on any channel :))07:12
fam1hehe07:12
sas171so no ideas about my boot problem, should i reinstall kubuntu?07:12
PygiHendikins: good, but real player and all these thingies are not exactly firefox plugins :/ Indeed, they are mostly stand alone thingies :/07:12
MastherOnixalguen habla espaol07:12
MastherOnix?????????????????07:12
gnomefreak!es07:12
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:12
HendikinsPygi: then what are nppdf.so, nphelix.so, etc?07:12
spymm i did  "sudo apt-get install wine" , "winecfg" and then its suppose to work07:12
spyand it actually did with a basic app07:12
jocke1sgnomefreak: That points me to paste.ubuntu-nl.org which wont load07:12
fam1lemme rephase... is it possible to install a bot like ubotu on a private channel ?07:12
spynext i tried to run starcaft07:12
spyand now it wont even launch basic apps07:13
MastherOnixaloooooooooooooooooo07:13
gnomefreakjocke1s,  it should load its been working all day07:13
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gnomefreakjocke1s,  if it wont load join #flood07:13
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PygiHendikins: ah, skipped :/07:13
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PygiHendikins: looks fine :)07:13
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HendikinsPygi: I've been maintaining the docs on the Mozilla end for 3 years, I view this as an extension thereof.07:14
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MastherOnixpliss07:14
MastherOnixspanish07:14
mwespy: next time use winetools. it lets you install and uninstall programs easily07:14
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mwespy: now you probably have to remove /home/spy/.wine the run wincfg again to get it up07:15
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spyokay thanks07:15
mwespy: or at least move .wine out of the way to let it create a new one07:15
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Pygilotusleaf: ping07:15
HendikinsPygi: I went looking through the wiki and elsewhere, and there wasn't a "this is how you install Firefox" plugins document. I found the information to be scattered at best.07:15
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polpakspy, I would suggest getting the latest wine release from winehq  (using the winehq repo) and also using winetools to configure the base system and make a backup07:16
Pygiyup, it is scattered :/07:16
Pygi!wine07:16
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Pygiubotu, why have you pmed me? don't you know you are supposed to say that in public :P07:16
ubotuPygi: what are you talking about?07:16
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Pygiajmitch: ping, ubotu freaked out :)07:17
textshelli'm looking for documentation or at least a short description for the repository breezy-updates, any pointers?07:17
polpakPygi, I think someone set up the wine response to reply directly. Annoying though07:17
Pygipolpak:huh, yes, annoying :/07:18
sas171one more time: I have some problems with my Kubuntu 5.10 on boot time. It stop booting while Battery state checking... I installed Kubuntu 10 minutes ago and changed only pppoeconf and xorg.conf... at the first boot time all was right. some ideas?07:18
Pygibattery problems?07:18
sas171i have actually a desktop pc, so no battery at all07:18
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textshellsas171: I don't really know what might be wrong, but you could try to boot the system with acpi=off as parameter.07:19
E-XtremiaHello room... I am looking for some assistance with my gnome-pannel in Ubuntu Breezy if anyone can help07:19
spywinetools says i need dcom98.exe07:19
sas171textshell: how to do it07:20
polpakspy, it certainly suggests installing it, as many programs will try to use it. It also suggests installing IE607:20
mikulhi, is there any free versions of crossover office? or is there any program like it for free?07:20
textshellE-Xtremia: what's your problem with the panel?07:20
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E-XtremiaWhen I first installed ubuntu, I could change the backgrounds07:20
spysure, where can i find it07:21
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E-Xtremiaon this instellation, when i do so, it causes things to look very screwwy07:21
spyoh sorry neva mind07:21
textshellsas171: you should be able to enter it in the boot menu (grub).07:21
gnomefreakmikul, i dont think there is07:21
sas171mikul: wine is opensource07:21
monyetzdo i have to install windows to use wine ?07:21
textshellmikul: try wine.07:21
spyhehe07:21
sas171monyetz: no07:21
spyno u dont07:21
gnomefreakmonyetz, no07:21
mikulok... thanks... will try wine ;)07:21
Pygimonyetz: no, no, and no :)07:21
fam1can anyone tell me what sort of bot ubotu is and if it is a package that can be downloaded somewhere?07:21
gnomefreakubotu tell mikul about wine07:22
sas171mikul: try wine-tools too07:22
polpakspy, did you run winetools?07:22
mikulok07:22
spyyes its excellent07:22
spyuse winetools07:22
polpakspy, it should have an option for "Installing the Base System"07:22
mikulwill try it ;)07:22
spyyes i found all the cute little stuffies thanks07:22
polpakspy, which will let you install dcom07:22
E-XtremiaI could show a screen shot if you dont know what I mean07:22
mikulthanks everyone ;)07:22
Pygifam1: it's a wiki bot....07:22
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spyyes i did dcom, am doing ie now07:22
polpakspy, ok07:22
gnomefreakfam1, it takes more than just to download a bot07:22
mikuli need photoshop :P07:22
gnomefreakubotu tell fam1 about you07:22
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sas171textshell: i have my boot record on the floppy disk, how to enter grub menu there?07:23
fam1tks07:23
textshellE-Xtremia: i never had that problem. Not sure what you could try to fix.07:23
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mikulcant just switch to gimp07:23
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gnomefreakyw07:23
E-Xtremiayeah, i didn't have it last time either07:23
spyare there ports for photoshop/maya/macromedia for linux?07:23
E-Xtremiajust this instalation07:23
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blue-frogspy, gimp, nvu07:23
E-Xtremiawould reinstalling the pannel package help? if so, do you know where to find it?07:23
sas171mikul: you can get only photoshop 7 under wine (07:23
spyah yes gimp... , what is nvu07:23
textshellsas171: hmm, never used a boot floppy with ubuntu. maybe you need to press ctrl alt or shift while booting...07:24
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gnomefreak!nvu07:24
ubotunvu is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.07:24
blue-frogspy, dreamweaver like07:24
thegladiatorhow do i open the kcontrol from the GUI is kde ?07:24
fam1I read that info before... but it doesn't identify what source/rpm/pkg, etc and where to find it07:24
Hendikinsaka nvu is standalone Mozilla Composer, with a few extra goodies thanks to glazou07:24
thegladiatorhow do i open the kcontrol from the GUI in kde ?07:24
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sas171textshell: ok, thank you, ill try07:24
textshellsas171: np07:24
spyi once saw a screenshot where if u right click its like an entire start menu.. can that be done in gnome?07:25
scott__hello all :)07:25
gnomefreakthegladiator, if its not in your menu type kcontrol in terminal07:25
E-XtremiaSpy: I am fairly sure it can be done07:25
thegladiatorthanks07:25
E-Xtremialet me see if I can find what I think you need07:25
gnomefreakspy, that sounds more like enlightenment07:25
polpakspy, or fluxbox07:26
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E-XtremiaMaybe it is gnome-launch-box?07:26
gnomefreakpick a box any box theres only 20 of them :((07:26
spyokay, does ubuntu support those07:26
Dr_Willisactually that could be said of most of the 'otehr' window managers. :P07:26
textshellspy: i don't think that gnome easily allows that...07:26
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polpakspy, yes07:26
gnomefreakspy,  yes07:26
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E-XtremiaI tried using Enlightenment once... I destroyed my Ubuntu instellation, had to reinstall07:26
E-Xtremiathis is probably why Windows users shouldn't muck around07:27
polpakE-Xtremia, =p07:27
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gnomefreaki use it sometimes i dont think im gonna use it with dapper yet but in breezy i do :))07:27
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Pygifreaky: how's your dapper?07:27
textshellspy: never tried in ubuntu, but in debian it's no problem ;)07:27
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Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  impressive.. it installed nicely into /opt/enlightemnet for me...07:27
=== Hendikins really should try [k] ubuntu one of these days
gnomefreakPygi, starting to get on my nerves :))07:27
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E-XtremiaDr_Willis, care to tell me how to do it?07:27
textshellhmm, i need to go .. (eating)07:27
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Pygifreaky: huh, what happened? :)07:28
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gnomefreakPygi, this anjuta crap07:28
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gnomefreakHendikins, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :))07:28
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  i found a nice little cvs-scriipt on the Enlightembnet site that downloaded/compiled/installed the latest cvs version.07:28
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Pygifreaky: huh, well, it is good and usable for some people :)07:28
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Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  that is for E17 however07:28
Hendikinsgnomefreak: Doesn't work too well on a SuSE box with a 33.6k dial-up connection, I'm afraid.07:28
gnomefreakPygi, not in dapper its not unless they used the tar for 1.2.4a07:29
E-XtremiaDr_Willis, I am very new to Linux, I dont even know what cvs is... you'd have to tell me in baby steps07:29
E-Xtremialol07:29
polpakDr_Acemaster, I'm pretty sure that E17 is in the repos07:29
gnomefreakHendikins, good point lol07:29
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  how about this.. dont use Enlightment.. :P07:29
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Massivfubuntu rocks07:29
Pygifreaky: huh07:29
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  its over hyped.. and  annoying. :P07:29
gnomefreakcvs is a pharmacy07:29
Hendikinsgnomefreak: which probably makes the fact I'm putting stuff in the ubuntu wiki mildly amusing.07:29
Dr_Willispolpak,  it wasent a few weeks/mo ago  :P07:29
E-XtremiaDr_Willis: it looked very cool to me, I tried it and it seemed to run, except that the right click didn't work... when I tried to reinstall, I brought my whole kernel crashing down07:30
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gnomefreakisnt E17 like the most basic desktop?07:30
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  Hmm.. somthing seems very odd about that...07:30
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spycan i associate .exe files with wine07:30
Dr_WillisE17 has so much eye candy - its scary07:30
sorush20guys how do I install libavcode07:30
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install libavcode?07:31
PuMpErNiCkLespy: They should be associate by default, but yes.07:31
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E-XtremiaDr_Willis: do you know a safe way to do it (IE, either a simple version of what you did or a howto)?  I really am interested in it07:31
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HendikinsI do have one question. Surely there has to be an easy way to link to a /section/ of another page on the wiki. How?07:31
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Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  i chedked the E site and their forums and fiound that script and ran it.07:31
merlyMy x386 install cd checks out on this computer, but on our older e-machine, it fails the integrity check07:31
spyno thanks... i got it setup.. nice :-) thanks for all ur help07:31
polpakDr_Willis, ah.. you're right. It's e1607:31
CioNhey all I need to remove the lillypond package but it gives error and I can't uninstall it, it's messing up my sysem07:31
gnomefreak!wiki07:32
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  and  the CVS E 17 would crash about every 5 min.07:32
gnomefreak!wiki howto07:32
Hendikinsand I looked at that07:32
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Hendikins(I think)07:32
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  and i dident see any real features it had that made it stand out. Other then eye candy07:32
PuMpErNiCkLeCioN: What's the error?07:32
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spycan i unhide the folder /.wine/ ?07:32
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Dr_WillisE seems to be one of theose window managers that everyone 'tries' but very few people actually 'use'07:33
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zAo^anyone tried to compile XGL ?07:33
Dr_Willisspy,  its not really hidden..  :P07:33
polpakspy, I'd suggest just making a symlink to your .wine/drive_c07:33
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Dr_Willisspy,  make a link to it if you want07:33
HendikinsDr_Willis: sounds like the other type of "E"07:33
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gnomefreakDr_Willis, why is that too light maybe?07:33
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spyokay thanks07:33
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  too light? its  all about eye candy.07:33
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merlythe integrity check on the older computer says initrd.gz fails md5 sum check. but, as i said, it checks out fine on this computer. same cd. and i checked the md5 sum for the ISO, and it's good07:34
polpakE-Xtremia, you can also check out fluxbox. It's got some of the e look and feel without being overly bloated/buggy07:34
gnomefreakohhhhhh i might have to look at that :))07:34
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  yep 'try' but never 'use' :P07:34
gnomefreaklol07:34
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gnomefreakif it has menu i will use07:34
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gnomefreakif this ever finishes i might get to use07:35
Dr_Willishas 'menu' ?07:35
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E-XtremiaDr_Willis, What does fluxbox look like? have any screenshot links handy?07:35
ralphitzHi - hope I am in accordance with channel policies. I am trying to install ubuntu on my mac mini, with at pc keyboard. My problem is, that although pressing 'c' during startup, it does not boot from cd07:35
leefdaddywhat's up guys07:35
gnomefreakDr_Willis, yes menu unlike flux or black box07:35
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  goodle is your friend.. its fairly minimal.. and screenshots are always pointless :P07:35
ralphitzAny help would be appreciated07:36
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  Huh?07:36
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E-XtremiaDr_Willis, minimal is not always best... I am pulling my hair out trying to get used to GNOME07:36
ZambbaHelp! The rights of home of one user are rwxrwx---, but he doesn't have rights to his files. He is the owner of his files also :S07:36
gnomefreakDr_Willis, last time i checked i couldnt find a menu for any of the "boxes"07:36
BlippeAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGH07:36
Dr_WillisE-Xtremia,  gnome is not all that 'minimal' compared to others...07:36
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windmill_laptopwhy does this happen when I run "apt-get upgrade" :  The following packages have been kept back:07:36
windmill_laptop  mencoder-k6 mplayer-58607:36
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  all the Flux/Black/Open box's i used have a 'programs menu' rigth there on one of the mouse buttons07:37
zAo^ralphitz, are you sure you burned the iso correct? does it boot in another machine?07:37
gnomefreakahhh thats right forgot about that07:37
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  thats the 'standard' for 98% of the window managers out there.07:37
ralphitzit is an "official" cd, and works fine on my powerbook ...07:37
gnomefreakthe right click hey looks theres a menu07:37
spyhehe07:37
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  the 2 that dont do it - are KDE and GNOME. :P07:37
spyi forgot to crack sc07:37
gnomefreakoh ok didnt relize that07:37
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  :P07:38
spyatleast the campaign editor works07:38
merlyif it couldn't find a cdrom driver would it mess up the integrity check? or would it not get that far?07:38
gnomefreakxfce also07:38
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ralphitzzAo^: it is an "official" cd, and works fine on my powerbook ...07:38
zAo^ralphitz, sorry, donno then. Try #apple or so i'd say07:38
Dr_Willisxfce has that feature.. actually I think KDE does as well07:38
ralphitzthanks07:38
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odinDoes ubuntu come default with a firewall?07:38
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gnomefreakodin, yes07:38
karrikashola07:38
polpakodin, no07:38
smoralphitz, try holding down cmd-opt-o-f during boot, until after the chime.  that sohuld get you to openfirmware, where you can boot the CD with "boot cd:,\install\yaboot"07:38
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odingnomefreak: How do I disable it07:38
odinerr?07:38
gnomefreakpolpak,  sure it does thats what iptables are07:39
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windmill_laptopwhy does this happen when I run "apt-get upgrade" :  The following packages have been kept back: mencoder-k6 mplayer-58607:39
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smoralphitz; cmd-opt equates to win+alt on a PC keyboard I believe07:39
polpakgnomefreak, he means turned on07:39
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gnomefreakpolpak, it is on by default no?07:39
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Thierry_did someone mange to make ubuntu working on mac WITH bluetooth and wifi support ?07:39
ralphitzsmo: ill try that, thanks07:39
DebianDudedoes ld.so.conf in ubuntu?07:39
polpakodin, yes, ubuntu can be configured to firewall, but by default itt does not07:39
leefdaddyhow's everyone like ubuntu?07:39
polpakgnomefreak, nope07:39
spyubuntu is great07:39
Dr_Willisleefdaddy,  it works. :P i give it a B+07:39
polpakgnomefreak, iptables -L everything accepts07:39
polpakgnomefreak, it doesn't need to be on, as none of the daemons in default ubuntu listen to the outside world07:40
karrikashola07:40
leefdaddyI'm new to the Linux world and just installed it, i've used a few other distros lightly but nothing major... anyone recommend a good book on linux/07:40
windmill_laptopatp sucks07:40
odinah..umm..a.rgh07:40
windmill_laptopapt07:40
DebianDudedoes ld.so.conf exist in ubuntu?07:40
gnomefreakleefdaddy,  what distro?07:40
polpakwindmill_laptop, perhaps, but it's better than all the others07:40
Dr_Willisleefdaddy,  i tend to grab the ones i find on sale on the bargin tables...07:40
Dr_Willisleefdaddy,  ones with lots of words.. not pictures.07:40
Pygiwindmill: please make a better system then apt then, thank you :)07:40
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leefdaddyI just installed ubuntu07:40
windmill_laptoppolpak, yum seems better to me07:41
gnomefreakapt is better than most of the rest out there including yum07:41
mweDr_Willis: if you give ubuntu B+ what do you give windows? and what would you give an A? :)07:41
gnomefreakyum is very slow07:41
windmill_laptoppolpak, it gives you more info07:41
polpakwindmill_laptop, that's untill you actually try to install something other than the base packages07:41
Pygihuh, not yum thingy :/07:41
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Dr_Willismwe,  nothing gets an A :P yet.07:41
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DebianDudewindows = F-07:41
Dr_Willismwe,  and you dont even want to get me started on windows :P07:41
gnomefreakthats one of the reasons i stopped running redhat and fc07:41
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mweDr_Willis: alright. fair enough07:41
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polpakmwe, Dr_Willis is waiting for GoogOS07:42
polpakmwe, ;p07:42
windmill_laptopso why does this happen when I run "apt-get upgrade" :  The following packages have been kept back: mencoder-k6 mplayer-58607:42
Dr_Willispolpak,  Yep! :p07:42
windmill_laptopno explanation07:42
Dr_Willispolpak,  printed out an artical about that just a few min ago.07:42
mwepolpak: yeah :)07:42
gnomefreakwindmill_laptop,  first what version are you on?07:42
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DebianDudedoes ld.so.conf exist in ubuntu? If not how do I point to shared libraries?07:42
windmill_laptopwhat of apt?07:42
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gnomefreakwindmill_laptop, of ubuntu07:43
leefdaddywhat is the easiest way to map a drive from a windows share?07:43
windmill_laptop5.1007:43
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windmill_laptopof squashed hedgehog or whatever07:43
gnomefreakwindmill_laptop,  did you try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?07:43
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Dr_Willisapts holding those back - because its decided it needs to for some reasion. :P Ive seen similer messages with some of the various video/transcode/ apps.07:43
windmill_laptopgnomefreak, no....07:43
Dr_Willishow did you install mplayer and menucoder?07:44
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gnomefreakor try the apt updater in the top right hand corner07:44
merlyhas anyone else had problems with install cd failing integrity check on older comp, but passing on newer comp? any fix to install on older?07:44
windmill_laptopfrom a repo07:44
jeanSALU SA FART?07:44
cycommerly: bad drive?07:44
merlycycom - it works, or worked, before in win07:44
Dr_Williswindmill_laptop,  and which repo was that?07:44
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gnomefreakclean or get a new rom drive07:44
cycommerly: working and working well are two very different things.07:45
Dr_Willis!info mencoder-k607:45
CioNhey all i need to remove a package that's messing up with my system can anyone help me?07:45
ubotumencoder-k6: (MPlayer's Movie Encoder), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 2827 kB, Installed size: 6188 kB07:45
jeanSALU JE MAPELLE JEAN COCO?!07:45
windmill_laptopDr_Willis, errr ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages07:45
windmill_laptopI think07:45
graabeinhullo. i am having problems pinging my ip. is there a software firewall installed on ubuntu?07:45
PygiCion: sudo apt-get remove package07:45
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cycomjean: why are you using all caps?07:45
merlycycom - could dirty drive or broken drive make it fail "initrd.gz failed m5 checksum" but nonetheless get that far in the installation?07:45
[DeCaf] What do I need to install to make local mail delivery function?07:45
CioNPygi it won't work07:45
cycommerly: maybe. dunno.07:45
gnomefreakwindmill_laptop, dont use debian repos with ubuntu they have been known to break07:46
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polpakDebianDude, afaik ld.so.conf doesn't exist. But I believe you can add it (with the appropriate entries) w/o borking anything07:46
windmill_laptopgnomefreak, I got that from the wiki I think07:46
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gnomefreakwindmill_laptop, i would hope not07:46
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gnomefreak!easysource07:46
ubotueasysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:46
gnomefreakthry there07:46
DebianDudepolpak, cheers...just giving that a whirl now07:46
polpakgraabein, ubuntu can be configured to firewall, but it doesn't have any such configuration by default07:47
gnomefreaktry even07:47
graabeinpolpak, so there is just a matter of opening port 22 on my router?07:47
Dr_Williscould be  its a debian verison of the package - so uits not letting a ubuntu version over write it.07:47
graabeinpolpak, it is strange. my friend couldnt ping me but i can07:47
polpakgraabein, no.. The reason that ubuntu doesn't need a firewall is because it doesn't install any daemons that listen to the outside world by default07:47
windmill_laptopgnomefreak, link timed out07:48
sas171damn grub07:48
graabeinpolpak, i have installed openssh07:48
polpakgraabein, if you want ssh access to your box you have to apt-get the daemon (openssh I believe)07:48
CioNhey all i need to remove a package that's messing up with my system can anyone help me?07:48
thegladiatorfrom the live cd or the install cd ,ca n i replace my /usr/share/pixmpas directoy ?07:48
polpakgraabein, ah.. then it should be fine07:48
thegladiatori messed up with the directory by replicatong some of the pics07:48
graabeinpolpak, but what can be the reason he cant ping me?07:48
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gnomefreakwindmill_laptop, try this than07:48
gnomefreak!sources07:48
ubotuA list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:48
gnomefreaktry those links07:48
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graabeinpolpak, i used whatismyip.com and i can ping him but he can't ping me07:49
sas171CioN: use apt07:49
gnomefreak!firewall07:49
ubotufrom memory, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter07:49
polpakgraabein, my guess is you're on a broadband connection behind a DSL/Cable router and the router isn't configured to forward or respond to pings07:49
aedeshow do I test what printers are available from a host via ipp?07:49
CioNsas171 I did: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-data_2.6.3-9~breezy1_all.deb07:49
CioN /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond_2.6.3-9~breezy1_i386.deb07:49
CioNE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:49
eksajm!w32codecs07:50
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:50
gnomefreakCioN, please use pastebin to paste07:50
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graabeinpolpak, ok, that could be it... but when i have opened port 22 on the router he should get in?07:50
CioNsorry07:50
fam1anyone have an opinion on whether the supybot or blootbot would be a better start for beginner ?07:50
gnomefreakbrb reboot07:50
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polpakgraabein, assuming that the ssh daemon is running yes07:50
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reynI'v installed another machine's disks on my machine, how do I mount an lvm (8e) disk ?07:51
sas171CioN: sorry i think i cant help you right now07:51
graabeinpolpak, i checked the config file and did ssh restart with no error messages...07:51
Dr_Willisfam1,  one could ask - why do you really need a 'bot'07:51
CioNsas171 ok thx07:51
polpakgraabein, if you just installed it it might not be running unless you enable it in your /etc/init.d/rc2.d directory07:51
polpakgraabein, ok07:51
CioNhey all i need to remove a package that's messing up with my system can anyone help me?07:51
fam1channel management and to make repetitive questions/info...etc easy for ops07:51
sas171is there some tool to create pppoe connection?07:51
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polpakgraabein, did you netstat -an | grep LISTEN to see if port 22 is open to the outside?07:51
Manifold!java07:51
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:51
graabeinpolpak, no, i'll try it07:52
djk_sas171: pppoeconf in a konsole...07:52
Dr_Willisfam1,  better off just making a web site :P  good luck.07:52
spyokay!!! WINE07:52
sas171djk_: and only pppoeconf? i have some problems with it07:52
polpakgraabein, if it is (and I suspect that it most likely is) then I'd guess the problem is again your DSL/Cable Router isn't forwarding the port07:52
spyim going 2 wine!!07:52
spyhehe07:52
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fam1anyone else have an intelligent reply?07:52
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spyMan wine is screwed up (actually its probably me)07:52
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djk_sas171: sudo pppoeconf07:52
graabeinpolpak, tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN07:53
spyatleast i got starcraft to run, but i had to past it into c:\windows (home/spy/.wine/c_drive/windows07:53
polpakgraabein, that's tcp607:53
polpakgraabein, which won't be helpful07:53
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leefdaddyso how do i go about installing mplayer?07:53
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graabeinpolpak, hehe ok. i'm pretty new to this07:53
sas171djk_: thank you, I have some problems with pppoeconf under kubuntu07:53
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polpakgraabein, is there one that says 0.0.0.0:22 or just tcp ?07:53
sas171so no other tool to manage adsl connections?07:54
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textshellleefdaddy: if you do a mplayer install from source right, you get the best results...07:54
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polpakspy, that seems unusual07:54
beruicCan anyone tell me how to set the mail program of choice?07:54
spyyeah it is07:54
graabeintcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:32769         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN07:54
graabeintcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:32770         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN07:54
polpakgraabein, no07:54
spyi setup the drives correctly07:55
polpakgraabein, don't paste here07:55
textshellberuic: which mail programm ? ;)07:55
graabeinok sorry07:55
spybut fix.exe (which returns the folder it is in) keeps returning c:\windows no matter where i place it07:55
polpakgraabein, if you want, you can pastebin the output of netstat -an | grep LISTEN and I'll take a look07:55
beruicI want to change from Evolution to Thunderbird07:55
spyand all other programs say they cant find their friends07:55
polpakgraabein, but use pastebin07:55
graabeinpolpak, allright07:55
spyso i guess putting all my programs in c:\windows solves it07:55
sas171beruic: i think there is a menu entry under preferences in gnome panel07:55
beruictextshell: I want to change from Evolution to Thunderbird...07:55
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polpakspy, I've never had to do that with wine07:56
nitroxidehi07:56
beruicsas171: I'll take a look07:56
polpakspy, what is fix.exe and where did you get it?07:56
zazzahi all07:56
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spyno no fix.exe fixes the registry entries for starcraft07:56
spyhehe07:56
beruicFound it :) thx07:56
graabeinpolpak, there is just those two tcp, one tcp6 and the rest are unix07:56
sas171beruic: np =)07:56
textshellberuic: ah, ok you the default mail programm is configurable in the settings menu.07:57
polpakgraabein, ok, then it seems like your sshd config file isn't set up to listen to standard tcp which is what you want07:57
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polpakgraabein, I believe it's /etc/ssh/sshd_config07:57
reynanybody know how to mount a lvm disk ?07:57
graabeinunix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     202305   /tmp/ssh-WgbHXI7767/agent.776707:57
polpakgraabein, can you pastebin the file?07:57
polpakgraabein, yeah, that doesn't matter07:57
graabeinis it that one? ok, i'll pastebin the config07:57
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spywell polpak im only running wine for Starcraft so it works... no more screweing around..07:59
spydont fix it if it aint broke ... :-)07:59
polpakspy, ok then =p07:59
graabeinpolpak, http://pastebin.com/48900107:59
polpakspy, you can have multiply wine installations07:59
polpakspy, if you want07:59
mikulwhy is wine really slow sometimes? is that normal?08:00
spyhehe... well well perhaps i can run Warcraft 3 aswell?08:00
polpakmikul, why is windows really slow sometimes08:00
polpakspy, sure08:00
spymikul : I have same delema, in sc it lags08:00
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mikulpolpak, haha08:00
polpakspy, what video card do you have?08:00
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mikulpolpak, so true :P08:01
spyfx 680008:01
polpakgraabein, uncomment #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0  (take off the #)08:01
graabeinpolpak, okay, is that it?08:01
polpakmikul, and you've installed the nvidia drivers08:01
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polpakgraabein, should be... you'll need to restart the daemon08:01
spyhey mikul want a screen shot of starcraft?08:01
spyrunning in linux?08:02
graabeinpolpak, great! thanks. i'll try it with my friend08:02
hippohi everyone... i have an ubuntu setup on a box that i want to turn into a web hosting server. can anyone point me in the direction of setting that up professionally and securely? i am a total linux noob :(08:02
hippofeel free to pm me if you would like08:02
hippoty08:02
mikulspy, why not ;)08:02
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polpakhippo, I'd suggest either becoming less of a linux noob, or hiring someone who knows more about it before trying to set up a professional server.. It's better left to the professionals ;p08:03
polpakhippo, not to say you shouldn't try08:03
hippowell its not like that exactly...08:03
hippoim a senior designer at a company who uses windows nt hosting08:03
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gnomefreaksudo apt-get install gettext08:04
hippoand i complain to them regularly that every linux hosting ive seen is better, more open source software etc...08:04
gnomefreakdamn wrong window08:04
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polpakhippo, but administrating web servers (and the security issues therein) isn't an easy job for someone just starting out08:04
spyhey mikul & hippo accept the file08:04
hipposo we are doing a trial linux box for my personal website08:04
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ScootaDootahippo: do you currently do your own NT hosting?08:04
hippoits not like im about to start a professional linux hosting company... but i do want to host my site on our lines and ips, but on ubuntu08:04
hippoyes.08:04
hippowe run about 200 sites08:04
Belboz99Hey all, I've got a problem trying to install a piece of software from source using make08:05
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spyand all 200 are windows baseD?08:05
hippoall. nt408:05
mikulspy, how08:05
mikul?08:05
polpakhippo, I'd still suggest hiring someone to help you get started08:05
odathello everyone08:05
spyit should pop up or be a tab08:05
Seveashippo, apt-get install apache208:05
ScootaDootahippo, do you have anyone in the company with linux experience?08:05
Seveasthen read documentation :)08:05
mikulit dosent08:05
Seveasthe default setup is pretty secure08:05
mweBelboz99: yeah. first stip is to install build-essential if you didn't08:05
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hipponot really scoota08:06
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sas171hippo: yet read the wikki?08:06
hipposo seveas... just go straight to apache?08:06
blue-froghippo, http://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/4  look for perfect isp setup in the menu08:06
hipposas171 which wikki, ubuntu?08:06
Seveashippo, that's the de facto standard on linux systems08:06
ScootaDootahippo:  try this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1583470328/qid=1136315169/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5198102-3712716?n=507846&s=books&v=glance08:06
sas171hippo: yes =)08:06
Seveashippo, wiki.ubuntu.com08:06
polpakhippo, you'll need apache, and either a ftp or sftp daemon at a minimum08:06
mikulspy, it dosent pop up any tabs :S08:06
spymmm... gee.. i dont know the.. hehe.. email?08:07
hippoyea im at help.ubuntu.com now.08:07
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Seveashelp.ubuntu.com is good too08:07
gnomefreakhow would i know if checkinstall wouldnt work with anjuta tar?08:07
hippoi was just wondering was there like a nice resource that was dedicated to setting up linux/ubuntu hosting08:07
hipponone i guess?08:07
Seveasthe wiki is the staging area for help.ubuntu.com08:07
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textshelli'm looking for documentation or at least a short description for the repository breezy-updates, any pointers?08:07
Seveashippo, that book is good08:07
spywait maybe i upload08:07
ale3hsbasically I connected a monitor to my laptop... how can I make linux see my second monitor??08:07
Seveasand since it's really easy to do a basic setup there are no real websites devored to it08:08
dcodeis there a way to make the installer think it already completed a step?08:08
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sas171hippo: there are some info abou about installing LAMP on the wiki under "Server" and some good docs at apaches site =) good luck08:08
dcodei.e. manually do it instead08:08
blue-froghippo, http://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/4  look for perfect isp setup in the menu08:08
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BaalBehrithey.. i have wireless net, and it has a very bad signal to access point. so i have to change bit rate from 11 mb/s to 1 mb/s to work, but in ubuntu, it won`t do it, when i do iwconfig, it still says 11 mb/s. i tried in win, and it works, but it ubuntu it won`t. i changed rate with command iwconfig wlan0 rate 108:08
mikuldamn wine is lagging08:08
textshellale3hs: if you want to have something diffenent at the monitor than on the lcd you need to look for information about  xinerama08:09
spyhttp://www.geocities.com/djspy187/Screenshot.png08:09
flogistonHow do i use the unrar program that can be installed from synaptic?08:09
mweflogiston: unrar foo.rar08:09
gnomefreak:(( i hate make errors08:09
Seveasflogiston, unrar x foo.rar08:09
sas171spy: wow... good work08:09
flogistonand x does?08:09
spyhehe thanks08:09
SeveaseXtract08:10
ale3hstextshell, ok I ll check it, but i have no clue what xinerama is08:10
spyim so proud08:10
dcodeI was trying to follow the directions on wiki/Installation/FromUSBStick for dapper...but it refuses to continue w/o mounting the cdrom08:10
flogistonAnd if there are many parts?08:10
sas171flogiston: just use roller08:10
BaalBehritppl?08:10
hippookay so what im getting is... a) understanding linux first is the real problem. b) then you can worry about apache+everything else?08:10
flogistonRoller?08:10
mikulspy, nice ;)08:10
gnomefreakspy,  you did that in gimp?08:10
textshellale3hs: it's the "name" of the multimonitor support for linux (or X11)08:10
BaalBehritdoes someone have the solution for my problem?08:10
blue-froghippo, basically yes08:10
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flogistonWhen i try unrar file.rar bash says command not found08:11
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textshellhippo: a good understanding of the OS used is needed for any kind of public server...08:11
skonthat's beacuse unrar isn't a program08:11
skonflogiston: use rar, install it from www.rarlabs.com08:11
sas171hippo: linux is no problem if you working on since your first computer. and a server is really complicated system... like light effects ;)08:12
flogistonI installed rar and urar from synaptic.08:12
flogiston*unrar08:12
mweskon: what's the price?08:12
hippookay so... do you guys feel that ubuntu would be a good environment for hosting.... period? i know we had a freebsd guy at one point years ago.08:12
hippobut for windows people, ubuntu is a smoother transition?08:12
mweskon: $50 or something, right?08:12
ale3hstextshell, I already have libxinerama108:12
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spygnomefreak : did what in gimp?08:12
ale3hstextshell, how I run the client|08:12
gnomefreakthat space shot?08:13
Belboz99hey, anyone have a quick and dirty way of sharing my Linux printer with a Windows Laptop over a home network?08:13
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skonmwe, price for what?08:13
spygnomefreak : are talking bout the same thing, theres nothing to do, its sc with xchat in the background08:13
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gnomefreakwhat is sc?08:13
sas171hippo: i think ubuntu is made for desktops and it is better to run the server under bsd08:14
gnomefreakand yes that is what im talking about08:14
hippohmm08:14
spysuse is much the same as ubuntu08:14
mweskon: rar08:14
textshellale3hs: sure ubuntu has all the needed programmes shiped in the default install, but you have to do the configuration. I don't know all the details, but googling for xinerame xorg setup should help ;) Maybe the wiki contains a few pointers to.08:14
gnomefreakhippo, ubuntu works fine as a server08:14
spystarcraft08:14
mweskon: it's not freeware. only unrar is iirc08:14
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spythanks.. hehe, so how u look? In console?08:14
textshellale3hs: xinerama actually ;)08:14
ale3hstextshell, always the hard way.. anyway trhanx :)08:14
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hippoallright. well thanks for the help guys. i appreciate it... ill probably be back with more specific questions next time :)08:15
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skonmwe, rar was free for me? i downloaded it from the site08:15
blue-froghippo try #ubuntu-server for server questions08:15
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textshellale3hs: i don't know a easy one... but i'm no expert for easy ways ;)08:15
hippocool i will08:15
hippothanks again08:15
sas171my kubuntu dont wants to boot after i made pppoeconf, some ideas?08:16
mweskon: I think you're supposed to pay if you use it more than 40 days.08:16
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spyokay so where do i start to get a compiler for c++?08:16
skonmwe: lol, just noticed that...oh well I don't use rar much anyway08:16
sas171spy: gcc?08:16
gnomefreakbuild-essential spy08:16
textshellBelboz99: it shouldn't be to hard with samba to setup... samba.org has some example files..08:16
zAo^what is the command for the multimedia selector?08:16
textshellspy: gcc or g++08:17
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GenghisKhansyp: aptitude install g++08:17
serfinhola08:17
mwespy: apt-get install build-essential is probably a good choice. it'll include gcc08:17
spythanks.. :-)08:17
sas171mwe: +108:17
spytime to find tutorials on doing OpenGL in Linux08:17
mwesas171: ?08:17
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sas171mwe:i mean i think so too =)08:17
mwesas171: ok08:18
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TengkSAHi All, I get an error when trying to start Synaptic Package Manager.. the following comes up08:18
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TengkSAE: ERROR: could not create configuration directory /root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)08:18
TengkSAanyone know how to fix that08:18
spyokay so i did apt-get build essential and it finished... so whats next? There arent any linked shortcuts08:18
sas171spy: what do you want to bild?08:18
zAo^TengkSA, sudo mkdir ~root/.synaptic08:18
mwespy: you want an ide or what? you said a compiler. it's not gui08:18
spyhehe08:19
spyokay so i now need the editor/gui08:19
mwespy: type gcc foo.c to compile08:19
zAo^no1 on the multimedia selector08:19
zAo^?08:19
spythanks... but i have nooo Linux experience in coding..08:19
mwespy: you probably want anjuta08:19
spypoint me to a quick tut please08:19
gnomefreakspy try anjuta or kdevelop for GUI editers or go text with emacns or vim :))08:19
TengkSAzAo^, mkdir: cannot create directory `/root/.synaptic': No such file or directory08:19
spyokay anjuta is installing08:19
gnomefreakspy,  your on breezy right?08:20
spyhehe , it added a nice shortcut08:20
spybreezy? Not sure what that means08:20
gnomefreak5.1008:20
gnomefreakversion of ubuntu08:20
textshellTengkSA: your system seems to be broken in some way... does sudo mkdir /root work08:20
sas171ok, i have to reinstall kubuntu now... have you ever installed some linux distro without problems? =)))08:20
zAo^TengkSA, try: sudo -s ; cd ~root ; mkdir .synaptic08:20
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mwespy: but it's not a compiler. the compiler is still gcc/g++ just to be clear. anjuta is just a frontend, basically08:20
jesperhow do i make ubuntu use the PS2-mouse instead of the mouse on my laptop?08:21
gnomefreakto compile a C program is gcc file.c -o file08:21
spythanks i think thats all except 2 more issues08:21
TengkSAbash: cd: /root: No such file or directory08:21
spymy mouse's extr 2 buttons08:21
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spyhow can i get em to work..08:21
textshellsas171: i installed ubuntu without problems the last time i tried (not counting the broken prozessor)08:21
TengkSAtextshell, i do that and nothing happens08:21
textshellTengkSA: that's good. all went well.08:22
TengkSAcool thanks08:22
textshellTengkSA: but your system seems to be broken in some way... but maybe synaptic starts now...08:23
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gnomefreak<<<getting mad now08:23
gnomefreakthats number 608:23
TengkSAtextshell, it does08:24
TengkSAtextshell, are there any programs that one can download to change cursors and stuff08:24
gnomefreakmaybe checkinstall fails because it cant be used?08:24
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textshellTengkSA: the problem was that the root's homedir didn't exist. (if your wondering)08:25
jendaHow can I make dvd:rip make me a simple 699 MB avi from a 7.3 Gig DVD, without all the other stuff it normally does? Just DVD>avi (or any other format for that matter)08:25
Subsonixsomeone tried the ubuntu search engine yet? http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu-search/08:25
textshellTengkSA: change the mouse pointer?08:25
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TengkSAtextshell,  yes08:25
odatquick question08:26
blue-frogjenda rip and encode... using the various tabs08:26
textshellTengkSA: i never tried but i think you can select a mouse pointer in the mouse config dialog in gnome...08:26
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mweodat: hurry up or it wont be quick08:26
odatif i had to pick between 386 and 686 kernel  what the hell would be the benefit?08:26
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polpakTengkSA, are you just talking about "theming"08:26
spywhat library must i include to use cin/cout ?08:26
mweodat: optimization08:26
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blue-frogodat none you would be aware of most likekly08:27
Seveasspy #include <iostream>08:27
spy#include<?> // for cin/cout08:27
Jonc101Does anyone know if there's a free app similar to vmware for linux?08:27
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jendaodat: AFAIK, if you have lots of ram or a new processor (or dual core)... then it's significant.08:27
odatblue-frog, gotcha08:27
mweJonc101: qemu08:27
blue-frogJonc101, vmware qemu08:27
textshellodat: the 686 can use the improvements of the last few years of processor design ;)08:27
Seveasspy, but this in not a programming channel, try #C++08:27
polpakodat, one kernel is specifically optimized for higher end intel compatible processors08:27
TengkSApolpak, no matter what theme i use the mouse is always called Human08:27
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dcodeI was trying to follow the directions on wiki/Installation/FromUSBStick for dapper...but it refuses to continue w/o mounting the cdrom08:27
dcodeis there a way to make the installer think it already completed a step?08:27
dcodei.e. manually do it instead08:27
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polpakTengkSA, so you just want to change the mouse?08:27
Jonc101is it completely free, aka no licensing issues?  and does it do the same thing as vmware?08:27
ph8hey guys, before I go about trying to convert the fedora rpms of xchat to debian/ubuntu friendly formats is there a way for me to get the latest version of xchat in a more speedy/regular fashion?08:28
TengkSApolpak, yea08:28
odatand to switch over from 386 to 686 would entail?08:28
textshellJonc101: maybe qemu but nothing as fast as vmware...08:28
spyhehe, thanks seveas08:28
mweJonc101: It ran dead slow on my machine though. other people have had varying succes08:28
Belboz99Hey all, how come CUPS isn't taking my username/pass at the web interface?08:28
ph8odat:  apt-get install linux-686 then apt-get remove linux-38608:28
blue-frogJonc101, use vmware player to play, qemu to build...08:28
ph8or keep the 386 as a backup08:28
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mweJonc101: it's free. you don't have to pay anything.08:28
Subsonixbtw. cool ubuntu search engine: http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu-search/08:28
polpakTengkSA, you just need to download a new mouse theme and put it in your ~/.icons directory AFAIK08:29
blue-frogBelboz99, diasbled by default, must add cupsys to shadow in /etc/group and restart cups to enable it08:29
TengkSAAFAIK?08:29
odatph8, i would image the amd specific kernel would have the same effect08:29
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polpakTengkSA, As Far As I Know08:30
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polpakTengkSA, ah08:30
polpakTengkSA, wait08:30
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polpakTengkSA, I think there is a program that can set up new ones for you08:30
polpakTengkSA, one sec08:30
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Jonc101ah ok ill check it out.  but let me explain why i need it and maybe you can give me some direction here.  i have a couple xp boxes that are unable to logon to a domain wirelessly with users that have roaming profiles, the reason for this is that the windows wireless zero config utility hasnt started at pre-logon so hence the box cant see the domain.  what i was thinking of doing was setting up linux and then installing xp with a vmwar08:31
Belboz99sweet, that worked blue-frog, thanks!08:32
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spywhat bit torrent program would u recommend?08:32
spikehBitTornado08:32
textshellJonc101: you if you need windows that much it might be easier to fight windows to work with windows tools...08:32
Jonc101would i be able to do that above with ubuntu?08:32
polpakTengkSA, hrm... Nevermind. It didn't seem to work. You just need to (as I said) install the theme into your ~/.icons directory08:33
ph8hey guys, before I go about trying to convert the fedora rpms of xchat to debian/ubuntu friendly formats is there a way for me to get the latest version of xchat in a more speedy/regular fashion?08:33
Subsonixspy: azureus, see http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-p2p-bittorrent-client-azureus08:33
ph8spy: The original BT08:33
blue-frogph8 use breezy backports08:33
Jonc101textshell: problem is i've tried literally everything windows related to get this to work and come up blank, hell, i called microsoft and they couldnt provide support08:33
ojoican anyone help me with ubuntu 5.10 amd 64 bit on a hp nx6125 notebook08:33
odatis there any special kernel for the sempron?08:34
TengkSAokay polpak  ta anyway chow08:34
ph8cheers blue-frog, i had that commented for some reason08:34
Jonc101so my little hack is to use linux to maintain the wireless connection.  windows will be unaware of this and simply see a network connection allowing users to login logout etc08:34
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mwehondje: what's roaming profiles and windows wireless zero config and pre logon?08:34
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ph8do you happen to have an up to date repos for backports?08:34
Jonc101mwe?08:34
mweJonc101: what's roaming profiles and windows wireless zero config and pre logon?08:34
graymanJonc101, you can run vmware on windows too08:34
textshellJonc101: i'd say you need vmware for such heavy use... Or try to use linux for most of the work...08:35
Mez!tell ph8 about backports08:35
ph8cheers08:35
spySubsonix : Package azureus is not available,08:35
blue-frogph8, anytime you change something in the list you need to reload08:35
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Jonc101i just need linux to support the infrastructure.  ill load windows xp up on top of a vmware-type app which will allow the users to do their thing.08:35
ph8bbs08:35
ph8i know :)08:35
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ScootaDootaJonc101: that sounds very messy to me08:36
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mweJonc101: well try qemu if you like. it was dead slow for me though, like I said08:36
blue-frogJonc101, how many clients?08:36
lisihello, how can I separate an evolution inbox mails cause I have 2 different accounts.08:36
GenghisKhanJonc101: it can work. that zero config thingie is dhcp, isn't it?08:36
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mweJonc101: I mean like _really_ slow to the point that it was so annoying I gave up using it.08:37
jejehi!!!08:37
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jejeI've a question...08:37
Jonc101blue-frog: about 5 users in this scenario.  schoota, ya very messy lol but if it works :D.08:37
Zenanybody know how to install to a RAID-1 on a Silicon Image 3112A?  it shows up as two drives instead of one08:37
hikenboothello all I changed the password of root user so i could log in to get a gui program to complete an install...not yet successful I had to reboot and when i did i was not able to run startxfce4 because of a permissions problem with .xauthority solved it temporarily by giving rwx to owner group world..then it starts as slow as molases08:37
blue-frogJonc101, have a look at freenx08:38
ScootaDootaJonc101: what spec machines are your clients using08:38
jejeubuntu have support for TV Card Pinnacle?08:38
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mwehikenboot: don't run X as root08:38
graymanhikenboot, you dont use root on ubuntu08:38
Jonc101scoota: p4 3.0ghz, 512mb ram.  they're hp dc7100sff 's08:38
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blue-frogJonc101, that means windows with the freenx server will be used by the 5 clients08:38
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textshellhikenboot: you should do everything that need root access with sudo  or sudo -i (opens a root terminal)08:39
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Jonc101bluefrog how does that work?08:39
ScootaDootaJonc101: okay they are good enough spec for vmware, but I reckon there must be a way of doing this without going the Linux/vmware method08:39
ojoihp nx6125 notebook help required08:39
blue-frogJonc101, but am not sure where your problem lies anyway, your windows clients don't get a dhcp address, is that the problem?08:39
Jonc101scoota ye i wish there was a way to do this windows only but if microsoft doesnt even know how to solve the problem then i'd say its an issue08:40
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jejeubuntu have support for TV Card Pinnacle?08:40
mweJonc101: could you explain again what you're trying to achieve? without the windows terms I don't understand?08:40
graymanmaybe its possible to solve it linux only?08:40
gnomefreakok there is not #compile channel where can i find help for compiling from tar?08:40
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gnomefreakoh and noone in #anjuta08:40
Jonc101bluefrog: no, the problem is that (in windows) the wireless connection doesnt start until after you have logged on.08:40
hikenbootnot runnig as root08:40
hikenbootrunning as a user who is in the sudo file08:40
hikenbootbut runnig as the user..example su hikenboot ---startxfce408:40
textshellojoi: maybe http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops helps?08:40
ScootaDoota Jonc101: okay...and they can't log on until they get the domain!08:41
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blue-frogJonc101, ok then ubuntu clients with freenx clients and windows with freenx server, your ubuntu clients will log with freenx on windows (freenx = faster than vnc)08:41
dave-0greetings. gettting apt-get to "just work" (tm) (for hoary) shouldn't involve anything more than editing /etc/apt/sources.list and running 'apt-get update', right?08:41
hikenboottextshell: that would be great except some gui programs are not prepaired to work with a hidden root user..for example in my case it is samsung printer driver installer08:42
gnomefreakgetting apt to work? apt works out of box08:42
blue-frogJonc101, or freenx clients on windows clients..08:42
ScootaDootaJonc101: chicken and egg situation.......hmmm...you can't be the first one to have encountered this one08:42
revmooguys, something trashed my grub while i was asleep, it changed root= to hdc rather than the hda that it should be, rendering my system unusable.......could this be a script gone haywire or has my system been comprimised?08:42
ojoiwell i tried there text no solution......can you tell me which distro will run on it08:42
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gnomefreakedit your sources list to get more apps for ubuntu08:42
joshi_Is Half-Life supported on linux?08:42
mweJonc101: What do you mean the wifi don't start until you log on? I access my winbox over smb and wifi without logging onto the machine first08:42
blue-frogJonc101, so that they will wrok on the windows freenx server08:42
dave-0gnomefreak: actually, apt doesn't work out of the box. the repositories in sources.list are commented out.08:42
textshellhikenboot: maybe your printer works with cups too?08:43
Jonc101Okay let me rephrase thing's a little, I think I'm being a bit confusing.  We have 5 desktop computers that sit in a warehouse, its very difficult to pull a network cable so they have wireless cards.  The users are people that update items in a database, they all have roaming profiles.  The problem lies in them being un-able to log onto the windows domain because at the 'Ctrl-Alt-Dlt' screen the wireless connection hasn't started.  So08:43
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gnomefreakdave-0, it doesnt matter apt will still work it willuse the cdrom repo to grab packages08:43
thegladiatorny one who has installde kde having problems like KDEInit cannot open ?08:43
gnomefreakapt does more than install and remove things too08:43
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odatanother question08:44
textshellhikenboot: in the extren case log in as root for the installation...08:44
jendaCan anyone help me resolve an error in dvd:rip? ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6540 )08:44
blue-frogJonc101, with freenx... log on to windows, start freenx clients, at that stage they work on the windows machine which holds the freenx server..08:44
odatif i have an amd should i pick the K7 kernel or go to the 686?08:44
thegladiatorgnomefreak, one doubt whats the gnome font ?08:44
hikenboottextshell: I believe it does but it automates the cups setup..which is easier for me because i dont want to spend six hours manually configuring cups08:44
thegladiatorgnomefreak, which one does it use?08:44
ScootaDootaJonc101: i'm sure the wireless connection should be up and running before the user logs in08:44
gnomefreakthegladiator, not sure08:44
gnomefreak!fonts08:45
ubotuwell, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto08:45
blue-frogJonc101, so no roaming profile needed, the profiles are kept on the machine with freenx server08:45
dave-0gnome, I'm aiming at configuring to use apt without a workaround like using the cdrom as the repository.08:45
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odattonyyarusso, sup08:45
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thegladiatorthanks...thats something else though:)08:45
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dave-0but basically... *basically* it oughta just be a matter of editing sources.list, right?08:45
gnomefreakdave-0, you want to add repos and # out the cd rom but that is not configuring apt  apt gets configured at end of install08:45
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Jonc101scoota: thats the thing, it doesnt start, and it SET to start in services.msc but it doesnt thats the bug.  and because im using PEAP and 802.1x authentication (which is user dependant) i am unable to establish the wireless connection.  the wireless connection does work AFTER you've loggged on with cached logon credentials08:46
gnomefreakubotu tell dave-0 about sources08:46
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odinhow do I make it so a specific user doesn't need the root password for sudo?08:46
hikenboottextshell: it appears to be stupid it doesnt like the root username and password being passed to it nor does it take the sudo user user name and password08:46
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dave-0gnome, good deal.08:47
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revmooadd them to wheel group i think08:47
odinI remember it has something to do with visudo08:47
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XiCillinodin: the point of sudo is that you don't need the root password08:47
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hikenboottextshell: its the linux-config...component of the install08:47
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MaEmtXtoRneed some help, i downloaded a rpm file and want to install it08:47
ScootaDootaJonc101: good old windows!.....do these clients have to run Windows...you can't migrate them to Linux?08:47
MaEmtXtoRsugesttions08:47
mweodin: sudo asks for the _users_ password08:47
odinXiCillin: Huh?  You don't need the root password for sudo?  hmmn...We must be running different versions of ubuntu08:47
Jonc101blue-frog: how does this nx server work?08:47
revmooMaEmtXtoR, use alien08:47
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blue-frogJonc101, what happens if they log in and log out, is the wifi connection still working?08:48
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Subsonixwhere do i get a good and comprehensive ubuntu guide/faq?08:48
MaEmtXtoRcan u tell me the command08:48
Jonc101scoota: yea unfortunately they run projectwise,a  windows only app08:48
odinmwe: Well, either way...root/user pass are the same08:48
textshellhikenboot: i don't know the samsung installer... Last time i installed a printer the vendor suppled drivers were pure crap08:48
kemikSubsonix:  the wiki08:48
revmoono, i dont remember the command, use man08:48
mweodin: no08:48
Subsonixkemik: url?08:48
Jonc101blue-frog: yes that will work but if we reboot then we have the same problem08:48
odinmwe: But how do I make it run without the prompt08:48
mweodin: root has no password in ubuntu08:48
kemikSubsonix:  wiki.ubuntu.org i think :)08:48
kemik!wiki08:48
XiCillinodin: nah, when i sudo apt-get something i type in my password not the root password08:48
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mweodin: you don't08:48
kemikubotu:  ?! wake up08:48
ubotukemik: I give up, what is it?08:48
odinmwe: Ok, fine...I'll find it elsewhere08:48
dave-0well, that is certainly an example of sources.list, but still, configuration of apt shouldn't involve anything *more* than editing sources.list, right?08:49
hikenbootit seems to work great on every other distro...much better than standard install methods..this seems to be the only problem anyways config-linux i think isnt part of the printer08:49
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hikenbooti think it comes with linux but not sure08:49
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XiCillinsudo user is a user that can run commands as root using HIS/HER password and sudo08:49
kemikSubsonix:  wiki.ubuntu.com08:49
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tonyyarussoodat: Not much new.08:49
mweodat: why would you try ro turn off security?08:49
textshelldave-0: apt has a lot more configuration files ;)08:49
warrengwhat's the linux command to convert a file back and forth between unix line breaks, mac line braeks and dos line breaks?08:49
blue-frogJonc101, if it works you should teach them to do it, will the better stuff to do (except if microsoft finds out a solution)08:49
TobbeHi, I've been trying to install MythTV on my Ubuntu box today. Apperently there is no support for amd64 in the repositories, so I have to compile it my self. But when I run this command: "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" I get an error saying: "/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: Permission denied". What does that mean, and what do I have to do to fix it?08:49
blue-frogJonc101, freenx is vnc like program except it is faster and secured by default08:50
SeveasTobbe, it means you have to do chmod +x debian/rules08:50
Tobbethanks08:50
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textshellwarreng: there a programm called dos2unix ... i don't know about mac...08:50
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Jonc101blue-frog, i dont think its applicable in this situation because the apps are windows based and are on pc's not dumb terminals :(08:51
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mwewarreng: sed would do it. I don't remember the exact command though so I guess it's not much help08:51
blue-frogJonc101, then teach them to log oout log in..08:51
skonWhat's the best streaming video server for ubuntu, anyone have an idea?08:52
Jonc101what about XEN, would that help me in this ituation?08:52
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Jonc101blue-frog, they already log in and out.08:53
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blue-frogJonc101, then it's the best so.lution they have..08:53
deemohey guys, i know this is the ubuntu channel, but the kubuntu people arent responding and im hoping you could help me out. Is there any way to allow connections to krfb through the terminal?08:53
S0m3_1hey08:53
mwewarreng: oh yes. sed -i 's/.$//' file.txt would convert CR/LF to CR only08:54
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ScootaDootacan anyone recommend me a goo LDAP frontend?08:54
MaEmtXtoRwell, i have a choice of Red Hat Package,Debian,FreeBSD package, wich do i use for ubuntu08:54
Crazy_ManDebian08:55
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MaEmtXtoRtnx08:55
winstonhello, noob question perhaps ---> Looking to send mail through evolution... should I activate smtpd or what? (and how?)08:55
polpakMaEmtXtoR, what is the package?08:55
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Jonc101winston, only if u run a mail server on ur machine08:55
blue-frogwinston, use your provider's smtp08:55
Jonc101winston: if its internet mail then use ur ISP's info08:55
Blippe!users08:56
ubotuBlippe: Not a clue08:56
Jonc101just out of curiosity, how does ubuntu behave with the atheros wireless nic?  does it support it or do i have to install mad-wifi?08:56
SeveasJonc101, madwifi is installed by the installer08:57
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Jonc101seveas u mean by the ubuntu installer?08:57
Seveasyes08:57
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Jonc101sounds good then.  ill try ubuntu with my 'experiment'08:57
polpakJonc101, what experiment?08:57
Jonc101my lil windowsxp/vmware/linux experiment08:58
LabThugDoes anyone in here use CPAN?08:58
marcin`hello guys08:58
polpakLabThug, I have used it yes08:58
sorush20guys do I need dma for sata drives?08:58
LabThugpolpak, I was trying to install DBI, and make threw up a bunch of C++ errors.  Have you seen this?08:59
marcin`question - is this possible to reconfigure linux and change08:59
polpakLabThug, you probably need the c++ compiler08:59
LabThugI have 4.xxx08:59
marcin`default ctrl+alt+F1...n keybinding08:59
polpakLabThug, oh. then it depends on what the errors are08:59
marcin`and use some other keys to switch between ttys ?08:59
polpakLabThug,  what module are you installing08:59
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blue-frogLabThug, install gcc3.4 export the path and try again CPAN to see what it does..08:59
LabThugwas trying to install DBI08:59
polpakLabThug, I think it's already in the ubuntu repos09:00
blue-frogLabThug, or have a look in synaptic to see if it is there (universe)09:00
tonyyarussoHow does Ubuntu decide how and when to use swap space?  It never seems to be using very much to me, and I was wondering if using more would free up more memory/speed thing up.09:00
deemohey guys, i know this is the ubuntu channel, but the kubuntu people arent responding and im hoping you could help me out. Is there any way to allow connections to krfb through the terminal?09:00
blue-frogtonyyarusso, swap is used when no more ram09:01
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blue-frogtonyyarusso, u don't wnat swap to be used as it is slower than ram09:01
polpaktonyyarusso, the kernel uses swap space when you run low on ram or for suspended programs09:01
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tonyyarussoblue-frog, polpak: So it won't be taken advantage of until RAM maxes out?09:01
LabThuglibclass-dbi-perl  <---Is that the one I should install?09:01
gnomefreakthere are a bunch of dbi things mostly libs09:02
deemoalso, how can i see a list of all the users that are registered on the computer through the terminal?09:02
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polpakLabThug, I'm checking. One sec09:02
osh_Is there a known problem with suspend-to-disk? It worked on my old laptop but not on my new one.It freezes during boot when restarting it.09:02
kemiktonyyarusso:  using swap is *bad*09:02
blue-frogtonyyarusso, swap will allow u to have a working computer if you're running out of ram09:02
GnarlyBobdeemo: cat /etc/passwd09:02
kemiktonyyarusso:  its tens of thousands times slower than ram09:02
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deemognarlybob thanks!09:02
GnarlyBobof course, that will show users that are not actual people, but accounts used for the system09:03
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tonyyarussokemik, blue-frog: Ah, okay.  (Coming from Windows, where there is not such thing.)09:03
deemognarlybob, rght thats what i needed09:03
GnarlyBobbut will show the actual users too.09:03
C-O-L-TI AM BACK09:03
LabThugtonyyarusso: windows uses pagefile.sys for it's swap space09:03
blue-frogtonyyarusso, same in windows09:03
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gnomefreakdbi shell should install the libs for dbi i would think anyway09:03
tonyyarussoLabThug, Oh.  That would be the thing that kept getting huge right before Windows would crash on the other computer.09:04
LabThugdbi shell?  Thanks09:04
gnomefreakLabThug, thats a guess09:04
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polpaktonyyarusso,  check out http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html09:04
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globeis there an audio player that will support streaming .pls files?09:04
blue-frogdeemo, terminal    who09:04
gnomefreakdbishell interactive sql shell with readline support09:04
LabThuggnomefreak: I'll install that and the other one I pointed out, between them I should get it09:04
LabThugglobe: xmms09:05
Vensonglobe, pls is just a playlist...09:05
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globeVenson, I know, but the ubuntu native doesnt stream....it just errors out.09:05
polpakLabThug, it's libdbi-perl I believe09:05
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globeLabThug, thats the one I was looking for, thx.09:05
LabThugpolpak, thanks09:05
polpakLabThug, and actually09:05
gnomefreak<<<doesnt have a libdbi-perl09:06
gnomefreaklol09:06
Vensonglobe, maybe because you're missing the mp3 plugin...i'm guessing you're streaming some mp3s09:06
polpakLabThug, as a general rule any module in CPAN09:06
polpakLabThug, which is like Text::CSV would be libtext-csv-perl09:06
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PeteyPablocan anyone tell me with an ipod if you have to use itunes to transfer music to it?09:06
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globeVenson, good thought.  How do I check that?09:06
LabThugpolpak, thanks for that info.  I'm just starting out with perl, so I'm happy to hear that09:07
D1PeteyPablo: on linux?09:07
polpakLabThug, sorry to hear it =p09:07
gnomefreaklibembperl-perl looks like a  website builder for perl09:07
LabThug:-D09:07
MaEmtXtoRi want to install Yahoo Messaner on Ubuntu, but there is only for RedHat,Debian,FreeBSD and i cannot use any of that09:07
PeteyPabloD1: if i buy an ipod nano will i be able to transfer music to it from ubuntu?09:07
polpakLabThug, Is this for work, or just for fun?09:07
D1oh09:07
D1yeah09:07
MaEmtXtoRany other suggestions09:07
polpakMaEmtXtoR, just use gaim?09:07
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D1theres various utils for that09:07
PeteyPabloD1: ok thanks09:07
D1uhm09:07
D1I cant recall the name09:07
LabThugpolpak: work.  I'm taking over for a guy that only coded in perl09:08
PeteyPablo!ipod09:08
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto09:08
tipnmoHello09:08
D1there ya go.09:08
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PeteyPabloD1: found the wiki thanks09:08
polpakLabThug, ah. Cause otherwise I'd suggest taking a peek at python09:08
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GnarlyBobyou're probably better off for it09:08
tipnmoquick question, how do run a .run file09:08
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GnarlyBobtipnmo: where'd you get it?09:08
tipnmonforce09:08
blue-frogtipnmo, ./file.run09:08
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tipnmoNFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run09:08
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polpakgnomefreak, it's a highly ideosyncratic language. It works well, but it's not terribly fun to write for =p09:09
cvt|gnuyearWhy can't i load synaptic?09:09
polpakcvt|gnuyear, what's the error?09:09
GnarlyBobchmod +x NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run && ./NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run09:09
cvt|gnuyearpolpak, "conversion with su failed"09:09
blue-frogtipnmo, better try ubuntu nvidia driver first (nforce is nvidia right?)09:09
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gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, use sudo not su09:09
cvt|gnuyeargnomefreak, i'm loading it from the icon09:10
MaEmtXtoRtnx a lot09:10
polpakMaEmtXtoR, sure thing09:10
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tipnmoblue-frog: i didnt realize ubuntu had a driver for the nforce3 250 chipset, would it be in the repos.?09:10
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miguelhola09:10
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miguelalguen saba como instaar un vpn server09:11
blue-frogtipnmo, id on't know if it has for nforce but u can have a look at nvidia-glx in synaptic09:11
rightcoastquestion, i havent done much with multi media, if i was looking to make avi's into vcd with ubuntu (or any distro), would avidemux be the tool to use?09:11
Seveas!es09:11
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:11
Seveas!pt09:11
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.09:11
miguelcual es el canal en epaol09:11
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slibshey a little help here, im using xubuntu, i'd need that gnome network gui for setting up my wlan, but i don't know what's the name for it?09:12
blue-frogmiguel, -es09:12
Seveasslibs, network-admin09:12
odathey everyone i installed the 686 kernel and on boot up i get a segmentation fault    any hints?09:12
slibsSeveas: is that also the name for package if i have to download that with apt-get?09:13
blue-frogodat, what proc?09:13
odatblue-frog, celeron 1.709:13
slibsseems not to be09:13
zazzai need help with getting my SD-card reader on my Toshiba Satellite pro m30 laptop09:14
slibswhat about network thing for kde? do you know name for that09:14
blue-frogodat, no clue should work i think, stick with 386 i guess09:14
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tipnmoblue-frog, nforce is listed there, but the rest are video cards09:14
tipnmoi am worried that would mess with my ati drivers09:15
slibscould it be that network-admin is included in gnome-system-tools?09:15
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azionHey all, was wondering if I could get a bit of help with kubuntu?09:16
slibsazion: try #kubuntu09:16
blue-frogtipnmo, then install nvidia-glx (if it lists it) then open terminal   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable    sudo modprobe nvidia  and restart x you will know straight if it works or not..09:16
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slibsbut sure you can get help in here too09:16
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blue-frogtipnmo, u have 2 cards?09:16
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spyhi, i downloaded opera and it is now in a opera.deb format.. how do i install it now?09:17
azionCheers, I downloaded the packages and rebooted but I'm still using the Gnome desktop09:17
azionHow do I change09:17
polpakspy, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb09:17
azionThe login was kde09:17
blue-frogazion, at login screen select what u want09:17
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rightcoastazion,  under sessions IIRC09:17
azionMusn't have looked properly, thanks guys09:17
TobbeI'm trying to install MythTV from source. After running "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" I end up with a lot of .deb files. What am I supposed to do with those?09:17
azionIs Gnome better?09:18
tipnmoblue-frog, no nforce is the mobo chipset, and i have an ati video card... i think its odd that its there with a bunch of video card chipsets09:18
polpakazion, it's pretty much personal preference09:18
polpakazion, try them both, and see which you like best09:18
globedoes anyone think that recompiling xorg from CVS will help my gateway laptop display @ > 800x600 ?09:18
azionI like the look of KDE, but heard it can be a resource hog09:18
slibshow can it be that my wlan connection is 102% :D09:18
azionlol09:18
polpakazion, kde and gnome are both more resource intensive than (for example) fluxbox09:18
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slibsit's better than best, well that should be enough for even me09:19
polpakazion, but if it does what you want.. Use it ;)09:19
pi9inEhello09:19
blue-frogtipnmo, i don't jnow what will happen if you install nvidia driver..09:19
pi9inEit's allowed to speak in other lang. as english?09:19
azionVery true polpak09:19
spypolpak it talks about dependencies which i dont have   Package xlib6g is not installed.09:19
spy  Package xlibs is not installed.09:19
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blue-frogtipnmo, try and tell us...09:19
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tipnmowell what i downloaded is a specific nforce package... so i think i will try and install that09:19
azionThanks alot guys, your great help09:19
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polpakubotu tell spy about opera09:19
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tipnmobut ./NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run: command not found'  didnt work09:19
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blue-frogtipnmo nforce is on baord card and ati pci?09:20
pi9inEguys, i'm completely n00b with linux09:20
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pi9inEmaybe I broke something09:20
blue-frogtipnmo, not sure i follow u..09:20
pi9inEwith instalation09:20
pi9inEof this distribution?09:20
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aranI just installed and X.org won't start... what should i do?09:20
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globearan what does it do?09:20
azionAnother quick question, is there a difference between KDE and Gnome apps?09:20
rightcoastpi9inE, go ahead, what happened?09:20
psycodehow can i convert an rpm package to a deb package or at least install it?09:20
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polpakazion, they use a different graphical toolkit09:21
rightcoastpsycode, alien can do that09:21
psycosepsycode, using alien09:21
pi9inEpsycode: to say the truth, nothing :) i'm thinking about installing this09:21
aranblue box saying thath it's being disabled until i configure it right09:21
tipnmoblue-frog, no on board video... my motherboard had the nforce3 250 northbridge chipset, i have an agp ati video card09:21
azionBut will either work on each interface?09:21
blue-frogpsycode, alien, look in synaptic first if u find it09:21
polpakazion, KDE apps use the QT GUI library, Gnome apps use the GTK libs09:21
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pi9inEpsycode: but i'm affraid that I will broke something with this OS i'm using now - XP09:21
polpakazion, yes, either will work with either09:21
azionGreat, thanks polpak09:21
polpakazion, you'll just have to have both sets of libs installed09:21
tipnmoblue-frog,  my motherboard has09:21
blue-frogtipnmo, then use ati's driver09:21
rightcoastoh pi9inE, the ubuntu install is almost completely hands off09:21
rightcoastno worries09:22
tipnmoblue-frog, i did09:22
pi9inErightcoast: so it won't broke my windows? :)09:22
rightcoastohh dual booting?09:22
siganyone know how to fix the ntp.ubuntulinux.org clock syncronize at startup? mine fails...09:22
blue-frogtipnmo, and?09:22
tonyyarussopi9inE, I installed Ubuntu dual-boot with XP on two computers, and both are fine.09:22
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tipnmoblue-frog, i just want to install the chipset driver, for usb, onboard sound, ect.. ect..09:22
globearan ... you need to reconfigure your x server.  I cant remember the command just now, 1 sec09:22
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psycosesig how do you connect to the internet ?09:22
psycodeblue-frog, the package exist for debian only in an old version which doesnt perform what i need, and i cant compile the source..09:22
rightcoastpi9inE, it can, yes, someone here may know a good dual booting doc for you with ubuntu09:22
sigdhcp lan09:23
pi9inEtonyyarusso: ok, that's great, and one quick question? may I burn that .iso as normal bootable CD?09:23
kemikglobe:  dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver09:23
tonyyarusso!dualboot09:23
ubotuwell, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo09:23
globearan: thats it!09:23
pi9inErightcoast: it would be great if somebody got, i would appreciate that09:23
pi9inEubotu: thanks a lot09:23
ubotupi9inE: graag gedaan09:23
tipnmoblue-frog, but i've never come across a .run file so i dont know what to do.. i am very new to linux09:23
globearan: what kemik said09:23
pi9inEi'll take a look09:23
Markbb-!mp309:23
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:23
blue-frogtipnmo, ifthe run file is not a video driver then go for it i guess..09:23
rightcoastthere ya go :D09:23
bluefoxicyholy crap09:23
tonyyarussopi9inE, You mean the install CD that I presume you downloaded?  Yep.09:23
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sorush20anyone here able to play back a dvd with out the edges of the objects being fuzzy any ideas?09:24
bluefoxicyhttp://gerona.gov.ph/davidjr/wp-content/themes/plain-vanilla/banner.jpg  <-- ubuntu linux:  Support interracial sex09:24
kemikglobe:  or xserver-xorg :)09:24
kemikand dont forget sudo09:24
blue-frogtipnmo, chmod u+x file.run    sudo ./file.run09:24
globekemik: you know...I have done that about 5 times this week and still cant remember that cmd09:24
tipnmoblue-frog, file.run -> NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run09:24
_joshuahi09:25
kemikglobe:   :)09:25
blue-frogpsycode, use alien then to "translate" the rpm09:25
zAo^why not use `sh file.run` ?09:25
_joshuacan anyone tell me the package name for macromedia flash player to view websites ?09:25
psycosesig may be you can change the ntp script prority, so that it launch ntp later ... (do it the ubuntu/debian way)09:25
ale3hsI connected a monitor to my laptop, and I restarted.. The vision came as I wanted to the external monitor but the resolution is 640x480 and I cant change it from the "screen resolution preferences" ..what can I do ?? plz someone09:25
polpakubotu tell _joshua about flash09:25
blue-frogtipnmo, yes, cd to the folder where it lies first09:25
sigpsycose: I'll figure it out09:26
sigthanks though09:26
blue-frogzAo^, whatever u like09:26
tipnmozAo^, sh file.run?    sh NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run?09:26
zAo^guess so, yes?09:26
tipnmoblue-frog, thanks09:26
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spythanks ubotu09:26
spyi got opera to work now09:26
polpakubotu, tell spy about ubotu09:26
tipnmoworks... thanks for you help09:27
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_joshuai have the repos open, just wondering if anyone knew the package name :p09:27
_joshuahehe09:27
polpak_joshua, it's in the wiki. I can't recall atm09:27
_joshuathanks polpak :)09:27
blue-frogtipnmo, will it compile with gcc4?09:27
_joshuaok cool09:27
bluefoxicy!nasa09:27
ubotuWish i knew, bluefoxicy09:27
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ale3hsanyone plz help me, how to adjust the resolution of my monitor??09:28
paulproteus|lapt_joshua: flashplugin-nonfree ?09:28
bluefoxicy!resolution09:28
ubotuhmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:28
bluefoxicywow.09:28
pi9inEguys, pray for me, after my download, going to broke my notebook with first time on linux :)))))09:28
kremonteis it possible to have gnome and fluxbox live in harmony?09:28
bluefoxicyubotu, tell ale3hs about resolution09:28
pi9inE*break09:28
zAo^pi9inE, luck on that m8 :)09:28
pi9inEzAo^: thanks dude :D09:28
ale3hsthanx bluefoxicy09:29
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bluefoxicyinteresting.09:29
TobbeI'm trying to install MythTV from source. After running "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" I end up with a lot of .deb files. What am I supposed to do with those?09:29
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traeheh09:29
zAo^Tobbe, install them? sudo dpkg -i *.dev09:29
traepi9inE, enjoy :)09:29
pi9inEtrae: I hope I will :))09:29
zAo^Tobbe,  *.deb09:29
Tobbethanks zAo^09:30
rightcoastTobbe, sudo dpkg -i *.deb09:30
traepi9inE, just remember, you have to "get your mind right" when using linux.09:30
rightcoastyep09:30
rightcoast:D09:30
traepi9inE, some things will be easier.  some things will be difficult.09:30
traepi9inE, seriously, if you want windows, and windows does everything you want it to, I woudln't switch to Linux.09:31
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chapiumhello09:31
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zAo^lo chapium09:31
pi9inEtrae: honestly, to say the truth, i would like to learn something new09:31
traeI know that probably sounds like backwards thinking in terms of advocacy.... but.09:31
odatanyone else have problems with the 686 kernel?09:31
chapiumwhen I reboot my computer, my kernel does not decompress09:31
pi9inEtrae: i'm quite experienced user of Win09:31
pi9inEi'm looking for adventure09:31
pi9inE:)09:32
zAo^odat, what problems?09:32
chapiumbut when I cold boot, it does09:32
tonyyarussopi9inE, It can be kind of fun.  Just don't get frustrated easily.09:32
psycosetrae windows may be all a use want, but not respect his citizen human rights, so it's may be not enough ....09:32
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traepi9inE, you'll get adventure :)  Try all the distro's too.. not just Ubuntu.09:32
chapiumwhat up zAo^09:32
zAo^Sorry, dont know09:32
traepi9inE, also give freebsd a shot.  Ubuntu, I feel is the best of them all.  But... I've used the rest and have (what I think) is an informed opinion.09:33
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odatzAo^, when i tried to update the kernel from 386 to 686 on reboot i keep getting a segmentation fault during boot09:33
pi9inEguys, thanks, you're kind :)09:33
pi9inEi'll be here on my desktop09:33
pi9inEif some problems :)09:33
pi9inEthis would be very long night for me :)))09:33
traepi9inE, enjoy :)  Just don't go into this thinking it'll be all roses.09:33
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pi9inEtrae I guess i'm prepared for that :)09:34
pi9inEbut nobody know09:34
traek09:34
pi9inEknows if my heart is09:34
pi9inE:DDD09:34
gnomefreakx-emacs is different than emacs right?09:34
traeI remember when I tried to run linux09:34
pi9inEif i'll loose all my Futurama DVDrips09:34
traeand it was too hard for me...09:34
pi9inEi'm gonna die :DD09:34
zAo^odat, can you boot singleuser? ("recovery mode")09:34
traeand a friend that uses it said to me "I guess you are just not ready for linux yet"09:34
traethat sorta pissed me off and made me want to try harder to use it.09:34
traeCourse, this was back in 96'09:34
blue-frogpi9inE, how many parttions on your laptop?09:34
zona1excuse me, but im a noob09:35
pi9inEblue-frog: 2 of them09:35
traewhen 95% of the people who use linux now weren't using it then.09:35
chapiumzonal, you are not alone in here09:35
odatzAo^, i can boot fine with the old 386 kernel09:35
zona1and i don't know how i to do for instal PIXMA IP1000 on my computer09:35
pi9inEzona1: great :) i'm not only here :DD09:35
polpakpi9inE, just make backups of anything you can't afford to lose09:35
zona1somebady can help me?09:35
polpakpi9inE, and you'll be just fine09:35
blue-frogpi9inE, can u free the second one?09:35
gnomefreakwhen linux came out in early-mid 90s it was used in bisness more than home09:36
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traegnomefreak, nod.09:36
pi9inEblue-frog: uhm, not sure... may I go for resize option?09:36
traegnomefreak, I like to think I was the first Linux "end-user" :)  heh09:36
odattrae, lol09:36
gnomefreaklol trae09:36
traeas I didn't code or do sysadmin stuff I just used it cause it was pretty09:36
trae:)09:36
zAo^odat, try recovery mode I'd say09:37
odatone of the coolest things about linux is discovery and conquest09:37
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dimitriI was on debian and I recently installed ubuntu, I can't get my second screen to work with my laptop one as I use to do, thats my first bugga but worse, how can I mount mac volumes ?? my ubuntu is connected to a LAN with a Mac09:37
odatzAo^, for what purpose?09:37
traeodat, and it's most frustrating too.09:37
chapiumzonal, have you tried going through the add printers dialogue in ubuntu yet?09:37
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odattrae, its like golf09:37
traeodat, I simply want things to "just work"09:37
blue-frogpi9inE, u can try, to be on the safe side just free the 2nd partition (onto your first and desktop as well and just erase that one when arriving at the partitioning tool during the install09:37
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globehow do I unlock /var/lib/dpkg/ for apt-get installs?  do I have to shutdown X?09:37
dimitriI have installed netatalk so I can mount my linux home on my mac but how do I do the opposite ?09:37
traeodat, I'd like the ball to just go in the hole when I look at it.  (to use that analogy)09:37
odattrae, yea but that is part of the conquest09:38
zAo^odat, some errors? logs? or try to install 686-smp ?09:38
gnomefreakwas? hell still is very frustrating well at this moment it is09:38
polpakglobe, you have to close synaptic09:38
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odatzAo^, why smp i don't have multiple processors09:38
traegnomefreak, :)09:38
globeplopak, ooooh....that makes complete sense...thx09:38
chapiumzonal, for example - System > Administration > Printing09:38
traeok, back to work.09:38
pi9inEblue-frog: i'm affraid that I won't have that enough space to save completely 2nd partition09:38
dimitrianyone ?09:38
zAo^odat, you have HT? well, sorry mate, but I dont know why it doesnt boot. sorry09:38
gnomefreakand i cant really blame linux for anything its the apps09:39
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odatzAo^, k09:39
spypolpak: have a chat with me09:39
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gnomefreaki thought ubuntu didnt support HT yet09:39
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polpakgnomefreak, indeed, I can count the kernel panic's I've had on 2 fingers, and all of them were due to hardware failures09:39
polpakspy, about?09:39
blue-frogpi9inE, buy a new HDD and put it on your desktop then09:39
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pi9inEblue-frog: i didn't got you09:40
pi9inEbefore :D09:40
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pi9inEnow clear for me09:40
pi9inEyou mean to save at desktop PC09:40
pi9inE:)09:40
pi9inEthere is enough space :D09:40
azionHow do I restup links to commands?09:40
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kremontewhere does ubuntu by default keep .xsession to start gnome? (there is none in ~/)09:40
spyubotu, is he a bot?09:40
ubotuWish i knew, spy09:40
blue-frogpi9inE, thought so..09:40
spyhehe, he is09:40
dimitrianyone ?09:41
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spyubotu tell me about opera09:41
gnomefreak!bot09:41
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.09:41
pi9inEDo NOT play with me in any channel. - great one :)))))))))))009:41
spyhehe, i dont hang arund in irc channels so lol this is very ammusing for me09:41
polpak!botsnak09:41
ubotupolpak: I give up, what is it?09:41
polpak!botsnack09:41
ubotu:)09:41
spyubotu i love u09:42
ubotuI don't know, spy09:42
MaEmtXtoRneed some help again, i want from my ubuntu to login or see the shared files on my XP, connected in LAN09:42
gnomefreakwe need to teach him typos09:42
spyoh09:42
spywell nonetheless hes bloody cool09:42
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spyit even inspires me to consider trying something like that09:42
kremontewhere does ubuntu by default keep .xinitrc to start gnome? =X09:42
blue-frogMaEmtXtoR, xp pro or personal?09:42
polpakMaEmtXtoR, sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k09:42
bluefoxicydamn09:42
bluefoxicyxpde isn't in ubuntu09:43
MaEmtXtoRpro09:43
bluefoxicyI wanted to freak people out.09:43
polpakbluefoxicy, xpde ?09:43
MaEmtXtoRblue-frog, pro09:43
gnomefreakwhat is xpde?09:43
spacey_kibluefoxicy, i don't think xpde is maintained anyway09:43
blue-frogMaEmtXtoR, then in nautilus type  smb://your-windows-pc-name/c$09:43
spywho helped me with wine earlier?09:43
spacey_kignomefreak, some xp like DE09:43
polpakspy,  me09:43
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gnomefreakwhats a de?09:44
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gnomefreaklol09:44
polpakMaEmtXtoR, the only problem with using nautilus is that your CLI apps can't see the shares09:44
spacey_kidesktop environment09:44
azionpolpak, could you help me again please?09:44
gnomefreaki feel stupid today09:44
blue-frogMaEmtXtoR, then type your windows administrator name (administrator) and password and u will have access to c and so on09:44
spyhehe, i re did it all and it seems i missed alot of stuffies to install .. hehe09:44
polpakazion, that's what I'm here for =p09:44
pi9inEguys, will this distribution install my HW completely by itself?09:44
polpakpi9inE, it should09:44
spacey_kignomefreak, http://www.xpde.com/ ;)09:44
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polpakpi9inE, if it can09:44
azionCheers, Im having a problem with links for an app I installed09:44
=== gnomefreak brb i think
spacey_kiBrr :)09:44
gnomefreakty09:44
pi9inEpolpak: ok :D09:44
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pi9inEany experience with HP Compaq nc6000 and instalations?09:45
polpakblue-frog, have you seen smb4k ?09:45
polpakazion, what's the trouble?09:45
blue-frogpolpak, yes but i don't bother as with xp pro i have access to all drives thru nautils09:45
AIVis GAIM the messenger I can use to replace MSN Messenger?09:45
pi9inEguys, I wonder where from is coming that much of patience? :)09:45
AIVor was it another?09:45
paranoieryes aiv09:45
Tomcat_AIV: Yes.09:46
AIVthank you09:46
polpakblue-frog, yeah, but unless you copy the stuff to your drives locally many other apps can't access the files09:46
azionpolpak, I installed an app in Gnome, it was a make file. It setup a link so I could type "app" in terminal, now in KDE those links are gone09:46
paranoierive got another question how can i chage my charset for gnome?09:46
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Belboz99hey, I'm having trouble installing shorten from source, the make check passes all three tests just fine, it's the make install that I'm having problems with, any ideas?09:46
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kremontewhere does ubuntu by default keep .xinitrc to start gnome? =X09:46
azionpolpak, when I type the app name I get no such file or directory09:46
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polpakazion, yeah  they don't share menu09:47
blue-frogpolpak, generally if i need to use windows file i use windows, but you're right otherwise...09:47
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spyhe ubontu reminds me of Fith Element.. Where the priest goes on and on about the girl and then hes like "no what i mean?", and the bar tender( a bot) replies.. no09:47
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polpakazion, can you find the program from the terminal?09:47
azionpolpak, I was starting it from terminal/shell in Gnome09:47
azionpolpak, yes it's in my home dir09:47
polpakazion, oh.09:47
azionpolpak, with desktop dir09:47
Belboz99mkdir: `/usr/local/man/man1' exists but is not a directory09:48
Belboz99make[2] : *** [install-man1]  Error 109:48
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polpakazion, make a directory in your home called bin09:48
Belboz99anyone know what those errors mean and how to fix them?09:48
polpakazion, and move it into there09:48
schuesscan anyone help with a wireless pcmcia installation?09:48
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azionpolpak, whats the command to move stuff?09:48
polpakmv09:48
polpakMaEmtXtoR, you can also access your network from the 'Places' menu under network servers09:49
azionpolpak, ok done09:49
ZiX_yay, im unbanned ^_^09:49
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MaEmtXtoRtnx all09:49
polpakblue-frog, yeah.. I tend to use smb drives to share stuff between systems.. But none of my comps use windows. Just samba on linux09:50
gnomefreakthat looks wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much like windows for me :((09:50
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schuesscan anyone help with a wireless pcmcia installation?09:50
polpakazion, ok, now you need to edit your .bashrc and your .bash_profile files09:50
Comrade_Vladimiris there a novell client for linux09:50
azionpolpak, ok, going out of my depth here. Is that hard? Im new to linux09:50
polpakgedit .bashrc .bash_profile09:51
polpakazion, from within your home directory09:51
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gnomefreakpolpak, there is an easier way to do that i found out :))09:51
polpakgnomefreak, oh?09:51
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polpakazion, do you have the files open?09:51
gnomefreaktake the saved bash file you wrote and mv it to usr/local/bin/username09:52
azionpolpak, yes09:52
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mark__!tell me about win32codecs09:52
Blippe!win32codecs09:52
ubotuwin32codecs is, like, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/09:52
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ibmnotebookwho knows how to use an extended desktop on a second monitor?09:52
polpakazion, ok go to the bottom of .bash_profile and you should see a line like  # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists09:52
gnomefreakif you save the file without the sh at end you can than run file just type in the name09:52
ZondeRlet's imagine it is written "make sure you have openGL", what package should I install?09:52
azionpolpak, Ypu09:53
Comrade_Vladimirwill samba work as a novekk client with ubuntu09:53
polpakazion, ok, now there should be 3 lines below that09:53
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gnomefreak<<learned using abs :))09:53
polpakazion, if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then09:53
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polpakazion, etc09:53
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Comrade_Vladimirhold on ill rbe rite back as sergei09:53
polpakazion, to the fi line09:53
azionpolapk, Yup09:54
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Blippeibmnotebook i did09:54
polpakazion, just cut all 4 lines from that file and paste them to the bottom of your .bashrc file09:54
ibmnotebookblippe with wich tool?09:54
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ibmnotebookBlippe with wich tool?09:54
Comrade_Sergeiok09:54
Blippetwo seconds, i'll try to figure it out!09:54
arangohi09:55
azionpolpak,Doe09:55
ibmnotebookBlippe and: my second monitor has another resolution...09:55
ibmnotebookBlippe notebook with 1400 x 1050, 2nd 1600 x 120009:55
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polpakazion, ok save both files09:55
polpakazion,  and close the window09:56
arangoi update my ubuntu from hoary to breezy09:56
Blippeibmnotebook, try to read up on xinerama09:56
azionpolpak, Okay09:56
leefdaddyman, windows is a lot easier to use :)09:56
slumpywhy cant i wrte to bin folder?09:56
arangoand now don't detect usb ports09:56
ibmnotebookBlippe thk you!09:56
arangoany idea?09:56
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pi9inEgod, stay with me :)09:56
pi9inE1h 30m to go :D09:57
polpakazion, now if you close your terminal and reopen it, your bin directory should be part of your path09:57
mark__where can I get win32codecs from?09:57
zazzacan someone get me his copy of  /etc/apt/source.list for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) it seems i have messed up mine at its now hoary09:57
polpak!wincodecs09:57
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, polpak09:57
slumpyhow do  i give myself owner privileges???09:57
polpak!win32codecs09:57
ubotuwin32codecs is probably binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/09:57
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thegladiatorhow can I reinstall amarok ?09:57
Crazy_Manactually09:57
paranoierdelete and install new?09:57
thegladiatorI am on KDE now...but its nto working , the amrok , as it did in gnome09:57
arangowiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats09:57
slumpywhy cant i wrte to bin folder?09:57
Crazy_Manw32codecs are available through the plf repos09:57
polpakmark__, there are some debs listed on the restricted formats wiki also09:57
HrdwrBoBapt-get --reinstall install amarok09:57
tonyyarussozazza, Can you tell me how to send a file with XChat?09:57
Kyralslumpy: because you aren't supposed to09:57
azionpolpak, How do you mean by path?09:57
paranoiertonyyarusso, click on the nick and push send file?#09:58
polpakazion, if you type your program name now it should work09:58
Blippeibmnotebook, you will have to screw around with /etc/x11/xorg.conf09:58
Crazy_Manwhy doesn't everyone use the plf repos? it saves a lot of work....09:58
Blippeso look for xorg.conf and xinerama09:58
tonyyarussoparanoier, Thanks.09:58
slumpyoh c'mon!!!! i need to upgrade my graphics driver!!09:58
polpakCrazy_Man, cause we like to be 'official'09:58
Kyralslumpy: the folders outside /home are restricted to the SuperUser for a good reason09:58
Crazy_Manpolpak, Why?09:58
Kyralslumpy: what driver?09:58
polpakubotu tell slumpy about patience09:59
zazzatonyyarusso, thanks09:59
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polpakslumpy, what are you trying to do?09:59
slumpyvideo card driver i81509:59
polpakazion, did it work?09:59
spyplease can sum1 tell me how to force refresh rate to 8509:59
spy60herts is killing me09:59
Kyralslumpy: IIRC there hasn't been an upgrade released for that09:59
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azionpolpak, I got tap: connect() failed 2 (No such file or directory)09:59
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arangomark__ search under synaptic w32codecs10:00
arangoor apt-get install w32codecs10:00
slumpycuz i have those stupid vertical lines running10:00
dcodedoes dapper flight2 include the ubuntu-express installer?10:00
Kyraldcode: I don';t think so10:00
Kyraldcode: I could be wrong10:00
polpakarango, I don't think it's in the repos10:00
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slumpyand it starts to flash even more when theres montion on screen10:00
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polpakarango, you have to download the deb separately10:00
dcodeKyral...thnx10:00
Kyralslumpy: are you sure you are using the right driver?10:01
arangoi see the w32codecs under my list10:01
azionataq, Type my name followed like this to come up red10:01
Comrade_Sergeiis there a novell client for ubuntu?10:01
Kyraldcode: work on Ubuntu-Express is to start this month or so I have heard10:01
slumpyi guess... its the newest i found..10:01
polpakazion, well it looks like it tried to run, but failed on something else10:01
ataqazion, thanks for the tip!10:01
Kyralslumpy: what GFX card do you have?10:01
arangoany way this it's the page:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp310:01
dcodeKyral, I see..10:01
dcodeis there a way to bypass a certain stage of the installer?10:02
Kyraldcode: but I could be wrong. I'm not on the team10:02
azionpolpak, I know it needs a driver called TCN/TAP to run, but under Gnome there was no probs10:02
Kyraldcode: like?10:02
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dcodeI'm trying to install dapper from a USB thumbdrive10:02
polpakazion, what program is it?10:02
slumpyintel 815 chipset graphics controller10:02
azionataq, Theres' a bot here called Ubuntu10:02
mikulweeei! photoshop 7 is now installing!10:02
Kyraldcode: ICK! Goodluck10:02
mikul:D10:02
dcodeif I mount it under /cdrom, the installer insists on searching for the cdrom..10:02
polpakazion, ubotu actually10:02
azionpolpak, hamachi10:02
dcodeit didn't do this under breezy10:02
Kyralslumpy: select the i810 driver10:02
uphello10:03
Kyraldcode: It worked on Breezy?10:03
dcodeerr..whatever the last release was10:03
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KyralHoary?10:03
dcodeyeah10:03
azionpolpak, It needs TUN/TAP to run10:03
KyralI had no idea that it worked period lol10:03
dcode5.1010:03
dcodeheh10:03
dcodewell..it kinda worked10:03
slumpyok ill try, but theres no point in it cuz I STILL CANT WRITE TO BIN!10:03
azionubotu10:03
Kyral5.10 is Breezy10:03
Kyralslumpy: you don't need to10:03
azionubotu, What is linux?10:03
ubotuazion: what are you talking about?10:03
slumpy??10:03
upi cannot find th floopydrive10:03
Kyralslumpy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:03
upfloppy10:03
azionubotu, How old are you?10:04
slumpyso...  how i instal it then?10:04
ubotuazion: I think you lost me on that one10:04
Comrade_Sergeiazion ???10:04
Kyralslumpy: install what?10:04
slumpyTHE DRIVER!10:04
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Comrade_Sergeiits an os10:04
azionComrade_Sergei, Yes10:04
dcodehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick10:04
arangoI install printer from manager (detected under usb port) but when printing i have "Unable to open USB device "usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ": No such device"10:04
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dcodeI followed those directions and it worked on Breezy10:04
Kyralslumpy: you shouldn't have too. The i810 driver is already installed10:04
AIVthe last time I  was running 5.10, it was checking for updates the way Windows does, like automatic updates, my question is where do I configure to either happen or not happen, and what is smarter of the two, is it safe to just trust these auto updates?10:04
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ataqhow do I set the monitor refresh rate in xorg.conf?10:04
Comrade_Sergeiso is there a novell client for linux cause i cant seem to find one10:04
azionataq, You there?10:04
KyralAIV: turn it off lol10:04
polpakslumpy, there's a good reason you can't write to bin10:05
mark__Does anyone have a deb pacake for win32codecs?10:05
mark__package*10:05
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Kyralubotu: tell mark__ about w32codecs10:05
ataqazion,  I am YA!10:05
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gnomefreak!codecs10:05
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories10:05
pi9inEhow much GB will take me installation of Ubuntu?10:05
slumpyok, lets say  its installed , but i still need to fix those flashing vertical lines10:05
azionataq, By any chance are you going to town during the day tomorrow?10:05
arangomark__ go to "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3" you will find w32codecs10:05
gnomefreakunder 1010:05
Kyralpi9inE: about 3-410:05
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dbeckerAnyone out there using LVM on RAID?10:05
Kyralslumpy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:05
azionpolpak, Any ideas?10:05
pi9inEKyral: and installations files will delete itself?10:06
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tonyyarussoAIV: I have mine give the little "update available" icon, but not actually do it.10:06
ataqazion,  Man I dount I'll wake till about 3!!10:06
Kyralpi9inE: install files?10:06
polpakazion, nope.. I don't have any experience with that10:06
Blippepi9inE: I would try to have around 5 gigs for ubuntu10:06
azionataq, Okay10:06
polpakazion, sorry10:06
Kyralpi9inE: you realize this is an OS...10:06
Kyralpi9inE: not a Windows app...10:06
gnomefreakyes the install cleans up after itself10:06
ataqazion,  Why10:06
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arangoI install printer from manager (detected under usb port) but when printing i have "Unable to open USB device "usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ": No such device"10:06
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azionpolpak, Do u think installing TUN/TAP would make a differnce?10:06
pi9inEKyral: i mean, i'm reading here an .doc and it says Create a partition for your Ubuntu installation at least 10 Gb10:07
pi9inEthat's why I'm wondering10:07
reticent!easysource10:07
ubotueasysource is, like, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:07
azionpolpak, It's only since I switched to KDE it's not working10:07
gnomefreakthis is strange :((10:07
Kyralpi9inE: ehh thats so you have space to add more apps :D10:07
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dcodeKryal, do you know if there's some configuration for debian-installer that I could modify to bypass the check?10:07
Kyraland your personal files10:07
pi9inEKyral: oh OK, sorry, i'm completely n00b :-/10:07
dcodeI assume that's what it's using10:07
Kyraldcode: *shakes head*10:07
azionataq, Got a package today, but they never dropped it into the neighbours10:07
azionataq, I have to collect by Friday or they'll send it back10:07
dimitrianyone ?10:07
Comrade_Sergeiso no novell huh?10:08
ataqazion,  just make install in the hamachi directory again10:08
azionataq, True10:08
arangoI install printer from manager (detected under usb port) but when printing i have "Unable to open USB device "usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ": No such device"10:08
AIVI will leave it off, but how and when would I know that I need some important updates?  will it just be a case by case bases?10:08
gnomefreakComrade_Sergei, what do you want with novell?10:08
KyralWhere did someone get a .doc for installing Ubuntu...10:08
CarlKwhy would glxgears be going at about 1 frame per second?  P3 cpu, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV10:08
AIVbasis I meant to say10:08
azionataq, Whats the command for renaming dirs?10:08
gnomefreaknovell is the company that makes suse10:08
CarlKazion, mv10:08
dbeckerarango, does the printer show up if you type "lsusb"?10:08
KyralAIV: just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade everyday10:08
azionCarlk, Thank you10:08
Comrade_Sergeignomefreak my company runs novell for client and i want to put a linux machine on it10:09
arangodbecker yes it's shown10:09
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dbeckerArango, That URL doesn't look correct10:09
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arangodbecker before update to Breezy the printer works fine under Hoary10:10
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dimitriis there anyone in LAN with a mac that can tell me how to mount an apple volume ?10:11
dimitriplease10:11
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Seveasdimitri, HFS/HFS+?10:11
CarlKglxinfo - "direct rendering: No" but I am not sure it ever was on.10:11
dbeckerNot HFS10:11
gnomefreakok how do i open eclipse if eclipse in term dont worka nd its not in my menu?10:11
Seveasdbecker, then what?10:11
dimitriSeveas: yes10:11
dbeckerdmitri, is your computer set up with Appletalk?10:11
Kyralgnomefreak: then its broken?10:11
dbeckerHFS is the disk partition type10:11
dimitriSeveas: I have netatalk but I can only mount my linux home onto the mac, not the way around10:12
Seveas!tell dbecker about diskmounter10:12
mwegnomefreak: what's the error you get trying to start it?10:12
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gnomefreakKyral, i kind of figured that out :(( damn10:12
Seveasah, you mean remotely10:12
gnomefreakmwe command not found10:12
dimitridbecker: well I have netatalk10:12
Seveasthen I don't know10:12
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mwegnomefreak: um. how did you install it?10:12
dbeckerOK, you have netatalk10:12
tbwAnyone know how I can get my machine to stop querying my CDROM drive when it doesn't have a disc in it10:12
gnomefreakbut thats ok there is some really weird crap with dapper today10:12
gnomefreaksynaptic10:12
arangodbecker "lsusb" reports "Bus 002 Device 002: ID 03f0:0f12 Hewlett-Packard10:12
arango"10:13
dimitridbecker: but do I need to set it ?10:13
Kyralgnomefreak: This is why I didn't upgrade lol10:13
tbwcuz my log is full of the kernel being mad about there not being a disk10:13
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ataqHi, can anybody tell me how do I change the refresh Rate of my monitor. Its Locked at 60Hz on 1024 X 76810:13
gnomefreaklol Kyral10:13
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mwegnomefreak: find the executeable with dpkg -L then type the full path and then make a shortcut10:13
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dbeckerarango, you may be able to manually edit your cups config if the setup tool can't do it for some reason10:13
Kyralubotu: tell ataq about fixres10:13
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dimitridbecker: ?10:13
Comrade_Sergeiis there a novell client for ubuntu?10:13
lucasvois there any way how to install ubuntu without a hardrive?10:13
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dbeckerdimitri, it's been a while since I've dealt with netatalk10:14
mikuli get "unable to qontinue because of a hardware or system error. sorry, but this error is unrecoverble." when i start photoshop7 anyone knows why this is? i just installd it with winetools.10:14
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KyralWIHOUT a harddrive?!10:14
tbwComrade_Sergei, : There's an NDP think10:14
Comrade_Sergeilucasvo why would u do that?10:14
ataqkyral,  Thanks10:14
arangodbecker yes i can, any idea addres such /dev/usb/lp0?10:14
dbeckerBut IIRC there's a tool to mount the drive, similar to smbmount10:14
gnomefreakit says its not installed :((10:14
Comrade_Sergeitbw got a link?10:14
lucasvoKyral: oh, sorry I mean CDROM drive10:14
azionataq, use xconfigurator10:14
tbwsearch for ndp10:14
dimitridbecker: what other choices have I ?10:14
Kyrallucasvo: man alive lol10:14
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Kyrallucasvo: you had me VERY confused10:14
dbeckerarango, check to see if /dev/usb/lp0 exists10:14
mwegnomefreak: dpkg -L eclipse-sdk|grep "eclipse$"10:14
Comrade_Sergeitbw whats it stand for10:14
dimitriSeveas: how can I mount my linux part on a MAc ?10:14
dbeckerIf it does, that's a good bet10:14
arangodbecker yes exists10:14
tbwoh10:14
tbwit's not ndp10:14
tbwits ncp10:14
tbwthe program is ncpmount10:14
CarlKis there a way to move apps between um... the 4 work areas?  or whatever they are called10:14
lucasvoI have a running linux on it, but I don't have a cdrom drive10:15
kremontewheres the default xsession startup? can't find ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession10:15
Comrade_Sergeiok whats it stand for10:15
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gnomefreakmwe i didnt get the sdk10:15
dbeckerdmitri, Macs can mount samba shares, if you want to try going the other direction10:15
tbwnetware control protocol10:15
tbwI dunno10:15
mwegnomefreak: what then?10:15
Comrade_Sergeio] 10:15
tbwI used to to authenticate to NDS tree at work10:15
lucasvoso is there any way how to boot the ubuntu livecd from  harddisk?10:15
tbwand mount my user shares10:15
gnomefreakbut how did it not install it as depends if i just grabed a plugin?10:15
dbeckerarango, let me look at my cups config10:15
azionubotu: tell azion about shell10:15
arangodbecker ok10:15
gnomefreakmwe i will let you know when updates are done10:15
gnomefreaki think it was eclipse-base10:15
mwegnomefreak: ok10:16
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Comrade_Sergeitbw is it NDS or ncp10:16
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dbeckerarango, I have this in /etc/cups/printers.conf: DeviceURI usb:/dev/usb/lp010:16
tbwComrade_Sergei, : NDS is netware directory services... ncp is the protocol.10:16
Comrade_Sergeik10:16
dbeckerncp => tcp as ipx => ip10:16
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arangodbecker will try10:16
dbeckerncp is the session protocol, running on ipx10:17
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dbeckerarango, check what your printers.conf looks like right now10:17
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dbeckerIf the DeviceURI is wrong it can't see it10:17
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arangoas i told you when start10:17
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nominhow well does the ipod work with ubuntu?10:17
psusincp is the file sharing protocol isn't it?  like smb...10:17
zazzahow do i get my sd-card reader on my laptop working10:17
slumpyso i configured the x server whats next??10:17
rancecould someone tell me about usb scanners recognition in ubuntu,  I have a scanner that is already confirmed to work with SANE but some distros just dont make the scanner available to non-root users (yes Im aware of ubuntus use of the sudo instead of the root account)10:18
Comrade_Sergeihttp://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/   tbw?10:18
dbeckerArango, you can also look at what driver the printer is registered with by doing "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices"10:18
Seveaszazza, not10:18
psusirance: it should work for non root users in ubuntu10:18
slumpyso i configured the x server whats next??10:18
Seveaszazza, these things have no linux driver and texas instruments is not interested in creating one.10:18
lowman62is there a way to install ubuntu from a networked cdrom..the computer I am trying to install on has a burned out unreplaceable cdrom10:19
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ranceok, will im downloading a kubuntu image now, and if it works then Ive got a new distro10:19
lowman62but it is networked10:19
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zazzaSeveas, humm i just have 2 try usb card reader10:20
azionataq, You be up for a while10:20
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(gnomefreak/#ubuntu) apt-get update only needs to be ran after changing you /etc/apt/sources.list10:59
(dbecker/#ubuntu) Jrex: cd /Desktop/makefile/lua50/include && make10:59
(Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) I have not been able to make the file yet, dbecker, I have no clue how10:59
(Seveas/#ubuntu) Jrex-Linux, what are you compiling?10:59
(lightbright/#ubuntu) Seveas: when I load update manager, do I need to click "RELOAD" ?10:59
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(The_Isle_of_Mark/#ubuntu) !codecs10:59
(ubotu/#ubuntu) Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories10:59
(matid/#ubuntu) lightbright: you do not10:59
(Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) Seveas, a .so file10:59
(dbecker/#ubuntu) What happens if you run make?10:59
(The_Isle_of_Mark/#ubuntu) !easysource10:59
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(ubotu/#ubuntu) [easysource] For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:59
(matid/#ubuntu) lightbright: until you want to forcefullu update your packages list10:59
(matid/#ubuntu) s/forcefullu/forcefully11:00
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(Epsilon/#ubuntu) anyone?11:00
kremontewhat was the command to start a new window with a different session?11:00
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(Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) it is not working bash: make: command not found11:00
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(pawdro/#ubuntu) Seveas: any ideas?11:00
(Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) eek11:00
(Seveas/#ubuntu) Jrex-Linux, what's the name of the software you are compiling?11:00
ToranHey guys, for ssh -X to work, what ports must be open?11:00
(Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) its called lua.so11:00
(dbecker/#ubuntu) Jrex: did you install make using synaptic?11:00
Jrex-Linux*Lua50.so11:00
sachinWhere is the config file located for GRUB11:00
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matidToran: I guess 2311:01
dbeckersachin: /boot/grub/menu.lst11:01
SeveasJrex-Linux, and what do you need it for?11:01
sachinoKtosiTe, thanks11:01
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dbeckerSeveas: sounds like he doesn't have make installed11:01
Jrex-LinuxMy Half life 2 garry's mod server11:01
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shadeofgrey..11:01
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shadeofgreyokay guys... today is brought to you by the letter R -- for ripper11:02
JoeBlowcan u play half life 2 on linux??11:02
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SeveasJrex-Linux, apt-get install liblua50-dev11:02
Jrex-LinuxI need it to run a bot11:02
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Jrex-Linuxan irc relay bot11:02
Seveasyou don't need to compile it manually11:02
rage_i'm trying to get my duel moniter setup working... i have a howtu but i don't know how to find the pci id of my 2nd vid card11:02
JoeBlowI just wanna play hl2 dm on linux11:02
Jrex-Linuxhard to explain11:02
shadeofgreythe one that comes with ubuntu stinks...  anybody know of a great ripper capable of ripping CD's to 320kbps mp3s or higher?11:02
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lightbrightSeveas lightbright, because apt-get update downloads the new lists <-- What new lists does it download exactly?11:02
sachindbecker: if i change the config file, do i need to run a certian command (like u have to do with lilo) (i have never used grub before)11:03
Seveaslightbright, lists of what's available11:03
shadeofgreyif not then how do i add flac readability to my beep-media-player?  so far the only program i know of that will play flac audio is totem...  which i loathe at the same level as windows11:03
Jrex-Linuxbasically, I just need to compile a Lua50.so out of one of the linux downloads at: http://luaforge.net/frs/?group_id=11011:03
chapiumanyone here have trouble syncing an ipod nano with banshee?11:03
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Seveasshadeofgrey, hmm, there is bmp-flac i think11:03
Seveasone sec11:03
kremontewhat was the command to start a new window with a different session? =X11:03
shadeofgreywhats banshee?11:03
zAo^who can help me on a locales problem?11:03
Seveaskremonte, gsmflexiserver --xnest11:03
kremontethanks11:03
Seveasgdm*11:03
Epsilonhello?11:04
jeanSALUT11:04
jeanHELLO11:04
pawdrohas anyone an idea how to solve my problem?11:04
ompaul!fr11:04
jeanNO11:04
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:04
Epsiloncan anyone help me with Cedega???11:04
Seveasshadeofgrey, try ripperx as ripper11:04
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ompauljean, caps lock is shouting11:04
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jean* I A'M FRENCH11:04
shadeofgreyokay11:04
Seveasjean, turn off caps lock11:05
BxLfrench are always shouting.11:05
ompaulBxL, now now11:05
BxLjean, vien sur #ubuntu-fr11:05
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zAo^who can help me on this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/654511:05
Jrex-LinuxHow would I compile a Lua50.so out of one of the linux downloads at: http://luaforge.net/frs/?group_id=110 ?11:05
dbeckerJrex: you need to install the compile tools11:05
SeveasJrex-Linux, not11:05
SeveasJrex-Linux, apt-get install liblua50-dev11:05
dbeckerJrex: I think it's build-essential11:05
dbeckerOr that :)11:05
jeanI FROM FRANCE11:05
Seveasyou don't need to compile manually11:05
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gnomefreak#ubuntu-fr11:06
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ompaul!tell jean about fr11:06
lightbrightSeveas lightbright, via cron <-- whats cron please? :)11:06
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Seveaslightbright, man cron11:06
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Jrex-LinuxSeveas, why would I need liblua50-dev?11:06
SeveasJrex-Linux, because you need it :)11:06
madgik85Sorry, I just need a little more help... How do I find out if I have an Nforce2 chip or not in my motherboard?11:06
Jrex-LinuxWhy?11:06
Seveasthat has a precompiled Lua50.so11:06
dbeckerJrex: that's the pre-compiled version of that file11:06
JoeBlowhow do i increase screen size in mplayer, if i do full screen it shows the video file the same size but just has light purple all around it11:06
Seveasso you don't have to mess with it11:06
gnomefreaklol @ why? all night long :))11:06
lightbrightSeveas lightbright, lists of what's available <-- so if thats the case, why dont I need to daily update the new lists available?  You mean "cron" does it automaitcally anyway for me in the background?11:06
Jrex-Linuxbut I was told I needed a specific version of Lua50.so11:07
dbeckerJoeBlow: check to see what video driver you're using in mplayer11:07
Epsilonman11:07
Epsilonno one helps me11:07
dbeckerEpsilon: missed the original question11:07
gnomefreakcron runs apps automaticlly at time and date its told to11:07
dbeckerJoeBlow: are you running gmplayer (with the GUI)?11:07
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Jrex-LinuxSeveas, someone says I need "automake/autoconf"11:07
EpsilonHow do I instal .exe with cedega?11:07
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pi9inEguys, one more little question plz :)11:08
dbeckerEpsilon: cedega is repackaged wine, no?11:08
lightbrightgnomefreak: but im only on intenret through modem, at irregular times, so what times does cron do this?11:08
pi9inELinux can recognize Win partition?11:08
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Epsiloni think11:08
trappistdbecker: it's a lot more than just repackaged11:08
pi9inEor Win can recognize Linux?11:08
Jrex-Linuxhow do I get "automake/autoconf" ?11:08
skonpi9inE: yes, not the other way around11:08
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waseemhi does anyone know any programs i can install that have fm/am radio?11:08
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dbeckerEpsilon: in wine, I would do "wine <file.exe>" and it would run it11:08
pi9inEskon: so Linux can, Win can't11:08
trappistdbecker: it has piles and piles of support for stuff like directx calls that ye olde wine doesn't have yet11:08
SeveasJrex-Linux, you need to listen to the people in here and clearly that already is a problem...11:08
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lightbrightgnomefreak: Why dont I need to daily update the new lists available via apt-get upate?  You mean "cron" does it automaitcally anyway for me in the background?11:09
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Jrex-Linuxwhat?11:09
gnomefreakwhenever its set to and you have net connection if you man cron it should give you usefull info if not remember uncle-google :))11:09
bnDcan someone help me out11:09
Epsilonk11:09
skonpi9inE: yes.11:09
bnDi need to know how to check a files crc from bash11:09
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pi9inEskon: thanks mighty ;)11:09
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, did I miss something? whats the problem?11:09
gnomefreakubotu tell lightbright aboutapt11:09
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Seveasshadeofgrey, there is a flac plugin for beep, but there seem to be problems with it11:09
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gnomefreakubotu telll lightbright about apt11:09
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bnDubotu crc11:09
lightbrightSeveas: for a person using modem and who is not connected to internet 24/7, how do I know im not missing the date and times cron is doing this?11:09
ubotubnD: What?11:09
tonyyarussopi9inE, Both are possible, if you have your linux on ext2 or ext3, and install something extra for Windows.  I'll get you a link.11:09
gnomefreakubotu tell lightbright about cron11:09
bnDcan someone pls tell me how to check a files CRC/11:10
Seveaslightbright, that's why you should subscribe to the security announce lists11:10
pi9inEtony: thanks mate11:10
gnomefreakok nm on the cron one :((11:10
lightbrightSeveas: ok11:10
trappistbnD: md5sum filename11:10
JoeBlowhow do i know what mplayer driver to use?11:10
dbeckerJoeBlow: xv is preferable11:10
Jrex-Linuxok, anyways, Seveas , I got apt-get install liblua50-dev11:10
Jrex-Linux, now where is the lua50.so that I need?11:10
lightbrightSeveas: so when an update is available, its sent to me via email?11:10
trappistJoeBlow: can't go wrong with xv11:10
dbeckerJoeBlow: right click on the screen and select "preferences"11:10
DimitrisChrI am considering to buy a notebook. I am between Dell Inspiron 6000 and Ibm Thinkpad z60m. Any advice ( i would like to install ubuntu on it)11:10
Seveaslightbright, the notification is sent to you via e-mail11:10
bnDtrappist, thanks11:10
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ZiX_i have to go sleep11:11
ZiX_byebye :o11:11
SeveasJrex-Linux, /usr/lib11:11
tonyyarussopi9inE, http://fs-driver.org/, and Linux seeing Windows is at !windowsdrives.11:11
Epsilonwhere can I download wine?11:11
dbeckerDmitris: IBM11:11
Jrex-Linuxah, ok, thanks Seveas11:11
skonanyone know how to output multiple files from the streamer program?11:11
gnomefreakubotu tell Epsilon about wine11:11
JoeBlowshit mplayer gives me alot of errors, like new face failed or something11:11
SeveasbnD, with cksum11:11
pi9inEtony: thx again11:11
lightbrightSeveas: and then I just apt-get install it manually you mean?11:11
bnDSeveas, thanks11:11
tonyyarussoDimitrisChr, Using an IBM here, and it seems pretty happy with Linux.11:11
tonyyarussopi9inE, np.11:11
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dbeckerJoeBlow: did you install the fonts package?11:11
bnDSeveas, do you know which digits i should be comparing?11:11
gerald-voltanyone know of a free 3d cad software?11:11
Seveaslightbright, yup11:11
gerald-voltsimilar to autodesk inventor?11:11
ale3hsguys I have problems to set up the xorg.conf file.. I dont know the vertrefresg and horizsync values to put.. however horozsync to 60-85 I can see the login screen in ubuntu but when i log in the x crushes.. so it must be the11:12
JoeBlowdbecker: no, I didnt know11:12
SeveasbnD, if you have a crc sum, then cksum should give you the exact same one11:12
ale3hsvertrefresh that is wrong11:12
dbeckerDmitri: I'm running on IBM right now and it's built like a tank. Last Dell I had felt like a child's toy. Hinges broke after 2 months of normal use11:12
bnDSeveas, it has more digits..?11:12
lightbrightSeveas: cool thanks :)11:12
bnD3921083461 134047 shell.JPG11:12
Seveasare you sure it is crc and not md5 or sha1?11:12
DimitrisChrdbecker, tonnyyarusso: Thanks! I heard so many thinks about linux and laptops that i wanted to ask before i buy anything11:12
bnDya11:12
Epsilonwhich one do I download there?11:12
bnDill figure it out :)11:12
bnDthanks11:12
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tonyyarussogerald-volt, People have had trouble finding that before.  I did stumble across a 3D design something called blender, but I'm not exactly sure what it does.11:12
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, I don't see lua50.so11:12
jaekso does the installer for 5.10 actually resize existing ntfs partitions properly?11:13
gnomefreak!blender11:13
ubotublender is, like, a free 3d program that can be found at http://www.blender3d.org  and tutorials at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro11:13
Seveasjaek, yes11:13
JoeBlowgreat guys that fixed it, this is the best supported linux ever, thanks so much guys11:13
ale3hssomebody please can help?? I have connected a monitor to my lap and I cant make it work.. it worksonly with 640x480 resolution11:13
madgik85Sorry, I just need a little more help... How do I find out if I have an Nforce2 chip or not in my motherboard?11:13
JoeBlowbut i gotta take off11:13
tonyyarussoDimitrisChr, Also, Google on laptops, there are 3 or so sites that maintain reports of success/failure on different models.11:13
Seveas!tell ale3hs about fixres11:13
gerald-voltblender is similar to something like 3d max studio11:13
PeteyPablowhen i plug in my ipod nano it comes right up, what folder do i drag music too?11:13
dbeckermadgik: try lspci11:13
gerald-voltnot really a 3d cad software me thinks11:13
dbeckermadgik: It should list the mobo chipsets11:13
SeveasPeteyPablo, to the ipod icon on your desktop11:13
PeteyPabloSeveas: thanks11:13
gnomefreakguys ubotu just posted it in room11:13
jaekSeveas, so i shouldnt be worried that the existing windows partition will not be usable?11:14
gnomefreakhave a read11:14
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xdudejoeblow  apt-get install : libdvdcss, win32decs, mplayer  sourcelist deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/11:14
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DimitrisChrtonnyyarusso: any ubuntu specific related sites? After all its my favorite distro :-D11:14
skonblender is good stuff11:14
Seveasjaek, it won't be less usable than standard windows ;)11:14
gnomefreakoh yuck not a debian repo11:14
ale3hsSeveas,  I already checked that ..but I dont know my horizontal and vertical rates of my monitor .. basically horizontal is 60-85 but I cant find what vertical values I should to put11:14
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Seveasxdude, BAD11:14
SeveasVERY BAD11:14
jaekSeveas, sweet11:14
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Seveasmarillat should NOT be used on ubuntu11:14
gnomefreakdebian repos will break a ubuntu system11:14
Crazy_Mannot always11:15
Seveascipherfunk id the marillat for Ubuntu :)11:15
gnomefreakuse easysource :))11:15
xdudeServeas  really why,  ?   I would like to do it right11:15
Crazy_Manuse plf :)11:15
ale3hsSeveas, I can boot to windows normaly, but I dont know how to see there these values11:15
Crazy_Man>_>11:15
Seveasxdude, they're not always compatible11:15
tonyyarussoDimitrisChr, They usually have everything organized in a list, so you can scan for Ubuntu on them.11:15
Seveasxdude, Ubuntu repos work better on Ubuntu system11:15
jaekit didnt seem to take any time at all to resize the existing partition... hmm11:15
gnomefreakubotu tell xdude about easysource11:15
PeteyPabloSeveas: i dragged an album to my ipod nano but i can't find it on the ipod?11:15
lightbrightgnomefreak: thanks for your help earlier, appreciated11:16
xdudeSorry it was information that got it to work for me?11:16
gnomefreakyw lightbright11:16
SeveasPeteyPablo, sorry dude, I don't know anything about ipods, I don't have one. YOu could try gtkpod11:16
gnomefreakxdude, on that site ubotu sent you you will find very good repos to use11:16
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lightbrightgnomefreak: I thought I knew all about apt-get :P  but my ignorance was evident :)11:16
xdudeK11:16
trappistman amarok is awesome once you rebuild libtunepimp with libmad support11:16
gnomefreaki have to say Seveas did i great job with that one :))11:16
DimitrisChrtonnyyarusso : Thanks again!!!11:16
Seveasgnomefreak, couldn't have done it without the people that reported good repos :)11:17
dbeckergerald-volt: QCad? http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html11:17
gnomefreakapt can do many things11:17
gnomefreaklol Seveas  true11:17
gnomefreaki was gonna give you one but im not sure if its anything close to legal lol11:17
lightbrightgnomefreak: but yesterday I had a message pop up that said 2 new updates available.  So I "think" that it all works in the background anyway, no need to worry about apt-get update anymore!  I wont type apt-get update UNLESS like you said, I change my sources,list11:18
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TengkSASeveas, !11:18
TengkSAompaul, !!11:18
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madgik85dbecker http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6546 is what i get, i see no nforce2, does that mean i dont have it?11:18
SeveasTengkSA, !!!11:18
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TengkSAWhat are the commands one types in recovery console to fix boot settings FIXBOOT and ?11:18
xdudeUbotu  Could I get that site again,  I can not find where it was said?11:19
ubotuxdude: Not a clue11:19
SeveasFIXMBR11:19
xdudemplayer info11:19
Seveasxdude, ubotu is a bot :)11:19
gnomefreakxdude, in your pm11:19
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gnomefreak!easysource11:19
ubotuI heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:19
xdudeoh11:19
gnomefreakthere11:19
xdudepm?11:19
xdudesorry11:19
PeteyPabloanyone here use ipod with ubuntu?11:19
gnomefreakjust take it from right htere^^^11:19
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Seveas!no easysource is <reply> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:19
ubotuSeveas: okay11:19
skonAnyone know how to output multiple files with the streamer program?11:20
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Markbb-seems like my machine doesn't like linux :S11:21
Markbb-locked up on me :(11:21
AmaranthSeveas: you've been turning everything into <reply> too?11:21
SeveasAmaranth, only where appropriate11:22
PeteyPablocan somone help me with my ipod?11:22
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Seveas'foo is For an...' is simply bad :)11:22
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gnomefreakubotu tell PeteyPablo about ipod11:22
tbwIs there a plugin for xmms that will allow me to adjust playback speed?11:23
Seveasundoubtedly11:23
bnD( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.10 - breezy Kernel: 2.6.12-10-686, GNU/Linux ` Xorg: 6.8.2 ` Desktop: Fluxbox 0.9.14 ` IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.6.011:23
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SeveasbnD, don't do that in here11:23
bnDk!11:23
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tbwI wonder if there is any point in upgrading tot he 686 optimized kernel form 38611:24
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Seveastbw, sometimes11:24
lightbrighttbw: Yes I did11:24
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Seveaseg, ndiswrapper does not work on the 386 kernel11:24
tbwWell, I don't need it.11:24
gnomefreakspeed wise you may not tell the difference11:24
tbwAt least not on mylaptop11:24
lightbrighttbw: why?11:24
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E0xhello11:24
skonWhat's a safe temperature for a laptop to be at...according to acpi?11:25
tbwBecause I dont need the wrapper on my laptop?11:25
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PeteyPablowhen i copy music to my ipod it doesnt show up?11:25
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Seveastbw, that was just an example ;)11:25
tbwskon: check out your processor site11:25
tbwSeveas: nod.11:25
skontbw, thanks11:25
gnomefreakPeteyPablo, the post ubotu gave you was not of help?11:25
madgik85does anyone know how to access fglrx-control? i have it installed but i cant find how to start the program?11:25
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PeteyPablognomefreak: i have banshee but it didn't seem to work?11:26
Seveasmadgik85, 'fireglcontrol'11:26
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Seveasmadgik85, 'fireglcontrolpanel' even11:26
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NCLifeubotu tell NCLife about ipod11:26
madgik85Seveas ty11:26
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Seveasgnomefreak, bon apetit11:26
E0xquestion , i have breezy install and i apt-get a linux image smp , now when i wanna get nvidia driver it download a image of linux 386 and the driver dont work ,so i download the .sh file from nvidia site and install it ( a lot of thing happen before i get it compile but in the end i get it compile ) then i install it and work nice , but when i reboot the pc the driver dont work anymore and i need run the .sh install again11:27
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, what is the diference between what I need (Lua50.so) and liblua50.so ?11:27
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calamarihi11:28
larshi11:28
monyetzif i type host www.xxx.com, what is the return typr ? and how can i save it ?11:28
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Jrex-Linux:O11:29
Jrex-Linuxyou speak of bad websites11:29
raphinko_O11:29
kemikmonyetz:  trying to write a bashscript ?11:29
gerald-voltI'm thinking this kinda 3d cad modelling11:29
gerald-volthttp://www.cadon.fi/upload/pictures/hi_res/SolidWorks%20Utilities%20One_h.jpg11:29
gerald-voltfor linux11:29
monyetz:)11:29
calamariI recently had a filesystem corruption and lost some libs.  As a result, some packages were missing files.  I've written a python program that will reinstall (using apt) a package and (recursively) all its dependencies.. would this tool be of general use?11:29
sorush20during video playback my computer freezes.. any help please.. ?11:29
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monyetzkernik : yes11:30
xdudeThanks Seveas, I got it11:30
trappistmonyetz: if you mean return code, and you're in bash, it's $?11:30
flodineanyone using fluxbox who can help11:30
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bobbyd_calamari, sounds like it11:30
Stonekeeperhi. My webcam is not being detected correctly. It's a  SONIX sn9c102 Hv7131R, but ubuntu wants to load spca5xx module. Anyone?11:30
trappistflodine: I've been known to use fluxbox, but since I didn't write it and don't know everything about it, I don't make a habit of volunteering to help until I know what the problem is.11:30
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Crazy_Mandoes anyone else get forbidden on Seveas' packages?11:31
SeveasCrazy_Man, which ?11:31
Jrex-LinuxSeveas, what is the diference between what I need (Lua50.so) and liblua50.so ?11:31
Crazy_ManI think w32codecs11:31
SeveasCrazy_Man, which mirror/11:31
Yangohello, I'm having troubles making a USB wifi adapter work, even following the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/11:31
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Crazy_Manone off of source-o-matic11:31
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Stonekeepernm, just found in ubuntuforums. cheers.11:32
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trethAm I the only one having trouble with network config?  =>.<=11:32
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New2UbuntuGuyHello quick question...Im setting up a desktop on ubuntu for mother in law and if she doesnt have a deskmate toy of some sort shes going to want me to reinstall windows11:32
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spyyippeee i compiled my first LINUX APPLIcATION11:33
PeteyPablowhenever i try to use banshee to copy music to my ipod it freezes ?11:33
trethDeskmate?11:33
New2UbuntuGuyI downloaded the xpenguins.deb to my desktop but im having trouble getting it to run11:33
SeveasNew2UbuntuGuy, lol :)11:33
Crazy_ManThese are the repos I'm having trouble with:11:33
Crazy_Man# Seveas' packages (packages, GPG key: 1135D466)11:33
Crazy_Mandeb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all11:33
Crazy_Man# Seveas' packages (sources, GPG key: 1135D466)11:33
Crazy_Mandeb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all11:33
Crazy_Man# Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages, GPG key: 33BAC1B3)11:33
Crazy_Mandeb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main11:33
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New2UbuntuGuyhow to I go about installing it from within bash? I dont think im using the install command properly?11:33
trethNew2ubuntuGuy:  What exactly is it that she needs . . . ?11:33
PeteyPablowhenever i try to use banshee to copy music to my ipod it freezes ?11:33
spyseveas guess what my program does?11:33
mikulwhere should my wine config file be? i cant find it after installing wine..11:33
New2UbuntuGuyanything with little critters that run across the screen11:33
kremontehaha cool11:33
Seveasspy, crash?11:33
Seveasor spy :)11:33
kremontei just apt-get installed xpenguins and i have something to do now!11:34
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trethNew2UbuntuGuy:  Like the Neko program for KDE?11:34
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New2UbuntuGuywell if neko is what I think it is (cat in japanese) thats exactly what im looking for11:34
kremonteyup11:34
New2UbuntuGuybut Im running ubuntu with gnome11:34
kremontewhat're you having trouble with with xpenguins?11:34
New2UbuntuGuyand Im really not up to installing another desktop :)11:34
trethNew2UbuntuGuy:  It doesn't matter, apt-get will do it ok.  Let me get you a link so that you can see it.11:35
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New2UbuntuGuyIm still VERY new to linux and ubuntu in general11:35
spynope.. neither, it gives u the first 10 squares (with 0 being the first) and then says "you mother ****"11:35
spyhehe11:35
kremontesudo apt-get install xpenguins then running xpenguins worked fine here11:35
New2UbuntuGuyIm trying to install it from the command line11:35
New2UbuntuGuyhmmm ok let me try it11:35
New2UbuntuGuyI tried with the package manager and it had noclue what I was looking for11:35
ompaulsudo apt-get install oneko11:35
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New2UbuntuGuyohhh thank you11:36
kremonteyay! more toys11:36
New2UbuntuGuyif this is a cat, Im in such business11:36
New2UbuntuGuymy mother in law will love me again11:36
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mirakis there an utf8 converter for filenames ?11:36
trethNew2UbuntuGuy:  apt-get install oneko11:36
kremonteoneko doesn't work to run it =x11:36
lwizardlhi11:36
lwizardlcan someone help me with getting thoggen to work11:36
mirakutf8migrationtool just crashes11:36
New2UbuntuGuycouldnt find package oneko?11:36
Yangowhen I read system->administration->networking for Ubuntu what's the equivalent in Kubuntu?11:36
ompaul!tell New2UbuntuGuy about repos11:37
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New2UbuntuGuyhmmm I should have them all enabled..I thought?11:37
trethYango: I'm wondering that too.  KDE's network prog doesn't wark.11:37
New2UbuntuGuymebbe I didnt on this machine..oops11:37
trethwork*11:37
kremonteif that's not working sudo apt-get update ?11:37
New2UbuntuGuythat would explain alot :D11:37
New2UbuntuGuylet me check..11:37
ompaulNew2UbuntuGuy, it is in universe11:37
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ForceAbuserhi all :), talking about a lot of users WOW!11:37
New2UbuntuGuythank you so much for all your help...if I can get a cat walking around on her desktop, she will be beside herself with joy, and for mother in laws, thats a VERY good thing11:38
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trethNew2UbuntuGuy:  Yeah, it's hard to get them over that 'your evil genitals of doom corrupted my child' thing.11:38
Yangotreth: what program are you using?11:39
ompaultreth, no it is much worse than that - mine uses windows11:39
New2UbuntuGuynot so much that, cause she loves the resultant grand child...11:39
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kremonterunning oneko won't run it :-(11:39
New2UbuntuGuybut the resultant grand child likes to sit with her and watch the desk mate cat that I had on this old win98 machine11:39
ompaulI have just tried that looking to see why11:39
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trethYango:  As of right now, I'm editing /etc/network/interfaces manually.  It's not working well; the machine keeps overwriting /etc/resolv.conf with broken entries and losing the gateway, even without reboots.11:40
kremontexpenguins works, though11:40
New2UbuntuGuyno kitty? crap11:40
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ompaulNew2UbuntuGuy, lets hang on a sec11:40
kremonteNew2UbuntuGuy: from reading the description on oneko, it looks like it chases the cursor around11:40
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Amaranthtreth: everything it tries to renew the non-existant DHCP lease that happens11:40
kremontexpenguins is cute though =P they die when they fall on a window too low on the screen11:40
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Amaranthtreth: but setting the interface as static in /etc/network/interfaces should make that not happen11:40
Link`sAdventureHello11:41
Link`sAdventureI'm having issues with Qt4 Dev packages11:41
trethAmaranth:  That's fine; I understand how dchp programs and stuff overwrite the settings, I just have no idea how to make it STOP.  My interface is statically configured, but this keeps happening.11:41
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Link`sAdventureIt's using the wrong UIC and stuff11:41
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Amaranthtreth: some shell script you need to edit11:41
polpakNew2UbuntuGuy, oneko works fine for me11:41
bimberiNew2UbuntuGuy: try "/usr/X11R6/bin/oneko" in a terminal11:41
cvt|gnuyearhow do i get 3d acceleration working?11:41
Amaranthtreth: dhclient uses it11:41
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polpakcvt|gnuyear, what card?11:42
trethAmaranth:  I apt-get installed NetworkManager, but then I deleted it . . . but when resolv.conf gets overwritten, it says it was done by NetworkManager.11:42
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Link`sAdventureit's using uic for Qt3 when you used qmake-qt411:42
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Link`sAdventureer11:42
Link`sAdventurewhen I^11:42
Amaranthtreth: odd11:42
phatmonkeyis there a way of finding out what driver my xorg is running currently? I don't think it's reading xorg.conf properly11:42
rattler_414what debian repo do I want to point to with ubuntu-64 ?11:42
ForceAbuseri got a (probaly very n00b) question: i CAN acces my HDA3, but i cant create a folder on it :(11:42
cvt|gnuyearpolpak, how do i tell? i have 128mB of video ram and it's ati11:42
Amaranthtreth: networkmanager probably modified the shell script11:42
polpakcvt|gnuyear, lspci11:42
cvt|gnuyearsynaptic?11:43
YangoAccording to the relevant how tos, a new interface should come up when I plug in my USB wifi adapter11:43
Yangothis doesn't happen11:43
Yangowhat can I do?11:43
polpakcvt|gnuyear, type lspci in a terminal11:43
rattler_414adept11:43
trethAmaranth:  I even manually nuked everything with 'NetworkManager' in the name, via slocate, and it is still doing it.11:43
polpakcvt|gnuyear, it should tell you11:43
cvt|gnuyearoh ok11:43
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polpakForceAbuser, you need to get write access to the directory in order to write to it11:43
ompaul /usr/X11R6/bin/oneko11:44
ompaulthat works11:44
cvt|gnuyearpolpak, http://pastebin.com/48932211:44
polpakyep. the damn cat is stalking my cursor. Except now it's sleeping11:44
kremonteyea, when the cat catches the mouse, it sleeps11:44
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kremontethen when you move it it tries to catch it again11:44
ForceAbuserpolpak: ok, this is a user setting i guess?11:44
Amaranthtreth: I'm sure you did, but that isn't what is doing it.11:45
cvt|gnuyearpolpak, did that link say?11:45
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polpakcvt|gnuyear, it said unknown device11:45
Amaranthtreth: You need to find the shell script dhclient uses to write resolv.conf11:45
wuckedmorning i have a question about ubuntu!! my screen goes blank when i startx i hear the start up sound tho11:45
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Link`sAdventureI'm having issues with Qt4 Dev packages11:45
Amaranthwucked: your monitor settings in x are wrong11:45
Link`sAdventureIt's using the wrong UIC and stuff11:45
Link`sAdventureit's using uic for Qt3 when I used qmake-qt411:45
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polpakcvt|gnuyear, if it's a radeon you can install the fglx drivers. Otherwise you have to use the open source ones11:45
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_hobbeshi folks11:46
trethAmaranth:  I don't really know how . . . do you know how to set grep to search for lines inside files from a whole directory?11:46
polpakForceAbuser, it's a setting on the directory11:46
Amaranthwucked: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and tell it to use a lower resolution11:46
_hobbesis there a source-package for glibc?11:46
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Amaranthtreth: no, sorry11:46
trethAmaranth:  I'll check the manpage . . .11:46
odathi everyone11:46
polpakForceAbuser, ls -ald directory should tell you it's ownership and permissions11:46
wuckedAmaranth yes but if i correct them it still goes blank. I have a 17" widescreen toshiba laptop11:46
mwe_hobbes: why would you want that?11:46
_hobbesI'd like to compile libc with nptl support11:46
ForceAbuserpolpak: aah great, THNX!11:46
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Amaranthwucked: you tried telling it to use 800x600 or 640x480?11:46
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trethAmaranth:  grep -d recurse11:46
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wuckedyes nothing11:47
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Amaranthwucked: _just_ those? if you enable higher ones it'll try to use those11:47
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Toranhey guys, how can I get my iPod video initially connected in Ubuntu?11:47
wuckedok11:47
AmaranthToran: gtkpod11:47
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AmaranthToran: afaik it doesn't do video though11:47
ToranThat's ok11:48
mwe_hobbes: yeah. I wonder why it's not compiled into the default though11:48
ToranAny step-by-step walkthrough?11:48
carydoes anyone have an idea why my synaptic package manager wont open? when i select it (default breezy install) it requests authentication but the synaptic window im used to doesnt come up. nothing appears to happen11:48
trethAmaranth:  rofl . . . the only place it has found it, is inside the resolv.conf file.11:48
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ToranOr just connect the iPod, mount it, start gtkpod, and copy files?11:48
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cvt|gnuyearpolpak, i found it: 128mB ati mobility radeon[r]  x70011:48
polpakcvt|gnuyear, then use the getting started guide11:48
waseemhi does anyone know how to make the buttons on top of the keyboard work for ubuntu?11:48
wuckedAmaranth it still gives a black screen but i hear the startup sound11:48
odatcary, sounds like a gdm problem11:49
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polpakcvt|gnuyear, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver11:49
Amaranthwucked: ok, what kind of a video card do you have?11:49
odatpolpak,  system , preferences, keyboard shortcuts11:49
caryodat, what doesnt mean a whole lot to me. im fairly new at this (ive sucessfully installed it once on a powerbook, and now this time on a PC). any suggestion as to where to start to figure out how to fix it?11:49
wuckedradeon x700 mobile 256mb11:49
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Amaranthhrm11:50
Amaranth!fixres11:50
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:50
Amaranthwucked: i guess you can try that11:50
wuckedk11:50
odatcary, try sudo apt-get install gdm    in the terminal11:50
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polpakodat, that won't fix the synaptic problem though...11:50
wuckedTHX!11:51
odatwaseem,  system , preferences, keyboard shortcuts11:51
jahshua--hey does anyone know if rootkithunter is available for ubuntu ?11:51
mirakhow can I convert my file names of my fs into utf8 ???11:51
jahshua--i tried to get it, but no luck11:51
Amaranthtreth: in /etc/network/interfaces for the static config add dns-nameservers XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX11:51
caryodat, ran that, authenticated, and it went to the next line. i see no network activity or anyting happening11:51
jahshua--maybe its spelled differently ?11:51
carypolpak, any ideas?11:51
brother_of_jaredGreetings..11:51
Amaranthtreth: then when resolv.conf gets overwritten it should put those in11:51
odatpolpak, he said he is not getting the password box when you starts synaptic  thats gdm11:51
bimberijahshua--: not in the ubuntu repos, but there is chkrootkit11:51
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jahshua--yah i got that one thanks11:51
trethAmaranth:  But I have 'gateway' set in the interfaces file, and it 'loses' the gateway too . . .11:52
brother_of_jaredI have a question about a mysterious file that showed up on its own in my "home" folder of Ubuntu Breezy.11:52
Amaranthtreth: hrm11:52
caryodat, polpak , i dont even get any error return when i have bad syntax trying to apt-get11:52
polpakodat, is it? I thought it was gksudo11:52
Amaranthtreth: does your interfaces file look something like the second block on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=580543&postcount=3 ?11:52
mwe_hobbes: brother_of_jared then ask11:52
lightbrightMICROSOFT was hustling to fix a flaw that left its Windows operating platform vulnerable to attacks from hackers11:52
caryodat, i get the password box, just not the package manager11:52
lightbrightnot till Jan 10 will they release a "fix"11:52
lightbrightlol11:52
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odatcary, oh ok did you reinstall synaptic?11:53
lightbrightboy im glad I DONT use MS WIndow11:53
trethAmaranth:  Let me pastebin it for you so you can read it yourself.11:53
B-166_ER-Xk3b keep telling me unable to WRITE@LBA=78a70h: Input/output error ,and wont burn cd/dvd, on a burner that used to ...11:53
treyh0bleh my laptop wont reboot with kernel 2.6.14 or 2.6.1511:53
treyh0just hangs when its finished11:53
Amaranthlightbright: not really an #ubuntu topic11:53
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mwelightbright: lot's of security holes are left without a fix in windows11:53
B-166_ER-XGnome burner jsute create an image, and tells its burned, whitout problem, but its not.11:53
caryodat, ive not installed anything at all since my initial setup of this ubuntu system (last night i think it was. maybe two days ago). how would i reinstall it?11:53
lightbrightAmaranth: are you an OP here?11:53
brother_of_jaredIts called "dead.letter" and it has a red X on the upper right, a gold lock on the lower right and the symbol of a foot on the main icon.11:53
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lightbrightmwe: yeah :P11:53
brother_of_jaredSomething I should know or worry about?11:53
odatB-166_ER-X, did you try gnome baker?11:54
lightbrightAmaranth: well that answers that :)11:54
Amaranthlightbright: Sometimes. :)11:54
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lightbrightAmaranth: lol ;)  you got me11:54
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lightbrightAmaranth: :P11:54
lightbrightAmaranth: I wont forget you are op in a hurry11:54
mwelightbright: really. they only fix like 70%. the last 30% they don't know how to fix they just don't talk about11:54
B-166_ER-Xodat, 2 burner are not working ,there is no reason for trying a 3rdone, considering k3b has always done agreat job11:54
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odatB-166_ER-X, understood11:54
lightbrightmwe: yeah, thank goodness for Linux11:54
AmaranthB-166_ER-X: are you running k3b with kdesu or sudo?11:55
New2UbuntuGuycrud...didnt even realize I had closed this window...sorry about that people..11:55
trethAmaranth:  http://pastebin.com/48933411:55
B-166_ER-XAmaranth,  nope.11:55
AmaranthB-166_ER-X: try doing that11:55
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New2UbuntuGuyok so I have now installed a program using either the syn pack man or apt-get11:55
brother_of_jaredThe file is called "dead.letter" and it has a red X on the upper right, a gold lock on the lower right and the symbol of a foot on the main icon. Something I should know or worry about?11:55
caryodat, i found the site where i could get the debian files, but i mean then what..compile? dont really know how if thats whats next. ahah11:55
New2UbuntuGuyhow do I go about actually running the silly thing? (finding where it installed to, etc)11:55
Amaranthbrother_of_jared: no11:55
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pi9inEguys, I've burned my .iso on DVD but it won't boot at start up, any tips why (i'm noob with linux, keep in mind) :)11:55
Amaranthbrother_of_jared: the lock and x just mean you can't do anythign with it11:55
odatcary, don't have to just open up the terminal and type sudo apt-get install synaptic11:56
polpakNew2UbuntuGuy, which oneko?11:56
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Amaranthbrother_of_jared: and the foot is the standard icon for unrecognized files11:56
brother_of_jaredI'm not even sure where it came from though...11:56
New2UbuntuGuythat and xpenguins yes11:56
polpakNew2UbuntuGuy, /usr/X11R6/bin/oneko is the command for oneko11:56
New2UbuntuGuythank you11:56
tonyyarussobrother_of_jared, You could always use sudo to view it to see if you can figure out what it is.11:56
caryodat, it says this: cary is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.11:56
Amaranthtreth: that's really weird11:56
B-166_ER-XAmaranth,  eh.. 'wow' : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/654911:56
New2UbuntuGuywhere do I normally find this information aside from coming in and asking silly questions about where the software installs to?11:56
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Amaranthtreth: i'm out of ideas, except for finding that script11:57
polpakNew2UbuntuGuy, dpkg -L pkgname11:57
pi9inEguys, I've burned my .iso on DVD but it won't boot at start up, any tips why (i'm noob with linux, keep in mind) :)11:57
odatcary, do you have multiple user on your system?11:57
trethAmaranth:  I don't want to have to reinstall Kubuntu because of the damnable NetworkManager thing that some fucker RECCOMENDED in the forums.  =>.<=11:57
New2UbuntuGuythank you :)11:57
polpakJust running xpenguins works for xpenguins11:57
caryodat, just root and cary ..thats it11:57
jrattner1treth, that was me, i recommended it :  )11:57
polpakNew2UbuntuGuy, so xpenguins should already be in your path11:57
Amaranthtreth: Watch the language please.11:57
mwepi9inE: burn it again at lowest speed your burner supports11:57
madgik85Seveas sorry to disturb you again, I am having a little trouble with my display after I installed xorg-driver-fglrx. The screen resolution has gone to 1280x768 from 1280x800. Is there a way I can fix this?11:57
pi9inEmwe: burned by 4x11:57
pi9inEand it's on DVD11:57
odatcary, sounds like cary doesn't have permmision to make changes11:58
jrattner1Anyone know any good CD to mp3 converters? besides cd juicer11:58
trethAmaranth:  Sorry.  I'm used to being in college where language like that is considered light.11:58
pi9inEcan be that be a problem?11:58
brother_of_jaredtony // sudo is a terminal thing right?11:58
fli7epi9inE, make sure your BIOS settings are set to try booting to the optical/cd/dvd drive BEFORE the hard drive11:58
AmaranthB-166_ER-X: try kdesu k3b11:58
trethjrattner1:  Ooh, glad you were here.  I'm not opposed to using it--if it works.  If you install NetworkManager, how are you supposed to use it?11:58
SEJefftreth, knetworkmanager will be out soon enough11:58
odatbrother_of_jared, more or less11:58
polpakNew2UbuntuGuy, only problem with xpenguins is it doesn't pay nice with the nautilus desktop.. (meaning icons will have trails carved through them by the penguins)11:58
pi9inEfli7e: sure on that11:58
SEJefftreth: go to run and type nm-applet11:58
brother_of_jaredhow would I sudo this file?11:58
jrattner1treth, it works perfectly, you add the line nm-applet to your session manager11:59
brother_of_jaredI have a terminal open11:59
jrattner1treth, then it will work flawlessly11:59
odatbrother_of_jared, what file?11:59
trethSEJeff:  I'm going to be 2,000 miles away in New Mexico by the time that's out.11:59
fli7epi9inE, then go ahead and try burning at a slower speed and to a CD, as opposed to a dvd.11:59
caryodat, is there a way to make that happen?11:59
brother_of_jareddead.letter in my home file11:59
trethjrattner1:  Ok, let me reinstall and give it a shot.11:59
jrattner1treth, system->prefereenes->session11:59
odatcary, are you on the machine right now   is it connected to the internet?11:59
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caryi am talking to you from it11:59
pi9inEfli7e: no empty CD at home damn :)) i'll try DVD again :D11:59
SEJefftreth: well use networkmanager. It is pretty good. Do you use kubuntu or ubuntu?11:59
B-166_ER-XAmaranth,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/655011:59
caryi just su root 'ed11:59
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