[12:00] <skon> ghb: under linux?
[12:00] <pa_l> iam wondering, the pyqt that was preinstalled with ubuntu, why are some of the classes missing?
[12:00] <jimmy13632> Hey can you open .rpm in ubuntu
[12:00] <Delvien> Can anyone help me out with this http://pastebin.com/487800
[12:00] <gnomefreak> !alien
[12:00] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:00] <topyli> thegladiator: at least the new user will have a virgin environment, and you will see if the system is broken, of if it's your home environment
[12:00] <skon> ghb: and same kernel?
[12:00] <ghb> skon: Well, no, under Windows... But still!
[12:00] <ompaul> thegladiator, did you do some other stuff like use automated programs for installing stuff, your complaint is so unusual that I think something local is broken
[12:00] <butcherbird> jimmy13632: use alien to convert to deb
[12:00] <pa_l> iam wondering, the pyqt that was preinstalled with ubuntu, why are some of the classes missing?
[12:00] <jimmy13632> ok thx
[12:00] <thegladiator> very unusual i know
[12:00] <thegladiator> i will try creating a new user
[12:01] <thegladiator> how do i ?
[12:01] <CarlFK> psusi: im only 1/4 here, so be sure to CarlFK any messages you want me to see
[12:01] <skon> ghb: well yeah, windows, there's a difference. under windows learning my wifi was very simple but installing it under linux was a little more difficult. did yours require use of ndiswrapper?
[12:01] <topyli> thegladiator: it's just a test, not a solution
[12:01] <cary> psusi, my main hd is booting win2k and i have a second drive that partitioned into 3 parts, and i have identified which id like to use, but i dont knwo how ot tell the installer to use it. the drive is a master on the second chain i think, but the other hd is the one that has win2k on it
[12:01] <thegladiator> yes i know
[12:01] <cary> psusi (oi..i didnt think yet about janking with the boot strap to dual boot.
[12:01] <topyli> thegladiator: in a console, adduser <username>
[12:01] <ghb> skon: I came across the word ndiswrapper looking around google for my problem. What is that? A package of drivers? Should I try using them?
[12:01] <cary>  will that be hard? im so new at this mess)
[12:01] <TrueChaos> Anyone ever heard of a hard shutdown killing a HDD? mom shutdown my box earlier, and it was hanging at GRUB Loading, Please wait... so I poped in a liveCD, and after using the liveCD bios doesnt even see the HDD.
[12:02] <psusi> cary, what do you mean you don't know how to tell the installer to use it?  if you do an advanced install there are plenty of options and one should be where to install
[12:02] <hegenious> ndiswrapper was the only way to get my wifi going
[12:02] <gnomefreak> cary, you have a full hd for ubuntu? or are you going to share 1 hd with ubuntu and win?
[12:02] <butcherbird> TrueChaos: put the hd in the freezer for a while :)
[12:02] <psusi> TrueChaos, sure... if the hard drive was crashing, a power cycle is usually what pushes it over the edge
[12:02] <thegladiator> i will login as maximus now and see
[12:02] <cary> gnomefreak, i have two HDs..on has one partition booting win2k, the second hd has 3 parts, one will be for ubuntu
[12:03] <skon> ubotu: tell ghb about ndiswrapper
[12:03] <TrueChaos> butcherbird: this does give me a chance to try that :D
[12:03] <SillyZ> good evening
[12:03] <cary> psusi, that may be the probelm...im in basic install
[12:03] <psusi> cary, yea.. you want advanced install
[12:03] <cary> psusi, doing that now
[12:03] <SillyZ> is there a page somewhere for setting up an ATI Radeon 9200 under ubuntu?, Ive tried working with agpgart and fglrx, but to no avail
[12:03] <skon> ghb, check it out....ndiswrapper works with a lot of wifis
[12:03] <TrueChaos> psusi: my mom hard shut it down because it was really really slow, and it was making wierd noises, or so my mom claims.
[12:03] <gnomefreak> psusi, he can use manual partion?
[12:04] <cary> psusi, given my hd set up (just listed for gnome) do you expect it to be difficult for my to set up my dual booting
[12:04] <TrueChaos> Time to try the freezer trick!
[12:04] <ghb> skon: I'll try that. But hey, what does Ubuntu use, then, if not ndiswrapper?
[12:04] <ompaul> TrueChaos, do the disk could have been dead before it was powered off
[12:04] <psusi> TrueChaos, "weird noises" is a good description of a crashing hd
[12:04] <hegenious> ndiswrapper very helpful HOWTO  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[12:04] <SillyZ> ghb, I use a linksys wireless card, module ath_pci
[12:04] <Delvien> gnomefreak do you knwo if there is a Dapper channel??
[12:04] <psusi> TrueChaos, hope you have a recent backup, and that the drive is under warrenty
[12:04] <ScootaDoota> TrueChaos: sounds like your mums telling the truth
[12:04] <Seveas> Delvien, this channel :)
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  what is wrong?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:04] <skon> ghb: if it doesn't use ndiswrapper, it's either built into the kernel automagically or it has open source drivers
[12:05] <Omeed> hello everyone, i recently formatted the drive with the boot loader, and i dont know how to install GRUB again. Is there an easy way through the ubuntu install cd?
[12:05] <Coag> how can i trick a program into thinking my architecture is i386?
[12:05] <Manifold> Er, out of interest, has anyone tried installing Enlightenment from apt?
[12:05] <psusi> cary, difficult is a relative term ;)
[12:05] <TrueChaos> when the comp attempts to access the drive on bootup it makes the same noise, over and over :D and then stops
[12:05] <skon> omeed: select the expert install and it will bring you to a list where you can select to install the boot loader
[12:05] <psusi> TrueChaos, yea... the drive is toast
[12:05] <SillyZ> <<-- need ati radeon help, is there a page or something somewhere that describes a correct setup for ubuntu?
[12:05] <Delvien> gnomefreak Seveas Vmware wont configure under 2.6.15-10-386 kernal, and im at a loss on what to do.
[12:05] <ompaul> Delvien, it is a development platform and will be 'til ~ april 20th so stuff will break between now and then
[12:05] <ghb> skon: Hmm. Righto. Well, I'll give ndiswrapper a go. Pray to god that it works, or you'll see a white strip on the sky, representing my miniPCI WLAN card.
[12:05] <thegladiator> ompaul, topyli even as a new user it doesnt work
[12:05] <Delvien> ompaul yes i know...
[12:05] <Coag> !tell SillyZ about ATi
[12:05] <skon> ghb, haha
[12:05] <thegladiator> i am afraid this is now a case of broken nautilus !
[12:06] <SillyZ> thanks coag
[12:06] <cary> psusi, i guess i mean is configuring a normal bootstrap generally regarded as hard. ive gotten a powerbook to dualboot but the systems were on the same hd. just wondering if another hd being in the mix is going to make it harder
[12:06] <thegladiator> or the system :(
[12:06] <TrueChaos> psusi: yeah, Im just trying to make sure its not the mobo / ide controler or anything before I go buy a new drive
[12:06] <skon> ghb, good luck
[12:06] <ompaul> thegladiator, only on your box, so it is local do you
[12:06] <Coag> SillyZ: no problem
[12:06] <ghb> skon: Thanks.
[12:06] <Coag> how can i trick a program into thinking my architecture is i386?
[12:06] <Seveas> Delvien, ubuntu dos not support vmware, vmware does not support Ubuntu, you're sort-of on your own there
[12:06] <skon> coag, why?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  i dont use it but i can tell you one thing the kernel is pretty much stable its the apps that are not stable at all
[12:06] <psusi> cary, I'm not sure if it will automagically work out of the box from the installer, or you might have to manually install grub... which isn't that hard
[12:06] <thegladiator> ompaul, i didint do anything
[12:06] <hegenious> don't expect ndiswrapper to work right away you'll spend some time crunching it
[12:06] <ompaul> thegladiator, got a live cd ?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> i suggest dont use it on dapper till atleast april :))
[12:06] <thegladiator> yes i have live cd and install cd
[12:06] <KarlosII_> seveas
[12:06] <psusi> TrueChaos, your descriptions are typical of a crashed drive, so I'd say that is what you've got
[12:07] <Manifold> Er, out of interest, has anyone tried installing Enlightenment from apt?
[12:07] <Coag> skon: because i can';t change these rpm's to debs on my amd64 system
[12:07] <Delvien> gnomefreak its my primary hehe (i like having a goal in my DEs)
[12:07] <cary> psusi, cool. so grub Could be the next step. thats all i need to know. at least for my peace of mind...
[12:07] <Seveas> KarlosII, ?
[12:07] <skon> ah ok
[12:07] <thegladiator> Manifold, yes i have
[12:07] <midwinter> Coag: running 64bit?  you have to run a 32 bit chroot
[12:07] <hegenious> and then you'll need something like wpa_supplicant to auto enter the WPA key
[12:07] <ScootaDoota> Delvien, if you are desperate for vmware...I suggest trying Fedora Core
[12:07] <ompaul> thegladiator, boot with the live CD and check the md5sum for nautilus on the drive
[12:07] <Manifold> Did it give you any trouble?
[12:07] <Delvien> Seveas aye but it configures fine in 2.6.15-9-386,
[12:07] <Coag> midwinter: how do i manage that?
[12:07] <Omeed> skon, i statred it up in expert mode, but there is no option right there to install the boot loader. do i have to delve deeper in the process?
[12:07] <KarlosII_> seveas, I tried access the info on gpg validation fo the repository for nx, however your site was being finite in it's communication
[12:07] <ompaul> thegladiator, or do this
[12:07] <Delvien> ScootaDoota i like ubuntu :)
[12:07] <Manifold> Because I tried the Elive CD and liked the eye candy, the--dud
[12:07] <thegladiator> ompaul, it was working tull now
[12:07] <Manifold> thegladiator*
[12:07] <Seveas> KarlosII_, there are 2 commands, just run them :)
[12:07] <psusi> cary, it certainly is possible to get working, it just might take some more effort than hitting ok a few times in the installer is all
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  you can try filing a bug but they will more than likely tell you same thing that Seveas  did
[12:08] <KarlosII_> whcih are :P
[12:08] <ompaul> thegladiator, I'll give you the md5sum for that
[12:08] <skon> ubotu: tell omeed about grub
[12:08] <Delvien> ScootaDoota i had VMware up and running in 2.6.15-9-386, i upgraded to 10 and it stopped working
[12:08] <midwinter> Coag: take a look, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[12:08] <Coag> thank you
[12:08] <thegladiator> ompaul, nautilus was working fine
[12:08] <ScootaDoota> Delvien:  I like it too....but have to use Redhat/Fedora for vmware
[12:08] <Seveas> KarlosII, look at the top of mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl :)
[12:08] <thegladiator> till now
[12:08] <thegladiator> suddenly it broke
[12:08] <Delvien> ScootaDoota ,,, it works in breezy just fine
[12:08] <Syco54645> can anyone recommend a program like konsole but for gnome?
[12:08] <thegladiator> do you think md5 wud be the probkem ??
[12:08] <doub> hi there
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Delvien, breezy is stable
[12:08] <Seveas> KarlosII_ just below the list of mirrors :)
[12:08] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know a good GNOME application that captures video via webcam?
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> I'm looking for someone who can tell me exactly what pressing Fn-F12 does on an IBM ThinkPad.  It's the shortcut for hibernating, but it doesn't work, while /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh does.
[12:08] <Stormx2> thegladiator: MD5 is never a problem. its an encryption.
[12:08] <thegladiator> Manifold, sorry i am in a big trouble . enlightenment worked but didnt like it much
[12:08] <ompaul> thegladiator, >>  md5sum /usr/bin/nautilus << gives this result >> c7381957a8760f7e46525a3772d254b7
[12:09] <mwe> Syco54645: you mean a terminal emulator? gnome-terminal
[12:09] <Delvien> gnomefreak i know, he was telling me he has to use FC to use vmware
[12:09] <Syco54645> mwe, i want one with tabs
[12:09] <Delvien> gnomefreak so i told him it works in breezy :P
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:09] <Syco54645> like konsole, sorry should have specified
[12:09] <ScootaDoota> Delvien:  Ubuntu is very dynamic  in updates compared to Fedora and Redhat and it likely that Ubuntu is to advanced for vmware
[12:09] <ompaul> thegladiator, it will show if the file is the same file as I have here on breezy
[12:09] <tonyyarusso> Syco54645, gnome-terminal can do tabs.
[12:09] <thegladiator> ompaul, i did that in terminal ... now
[12:09] <thegladiator> as thegladiator
[12:09] <Signifer123> well i have vmware running on my ubuntu box or does he want buntu on vmware?
[12:09] <Delvien> ScootaDoota nah, i was just using it in my previous kernal im on 10, was in 9
[12:10] <mwe> Syco54645: I don't know any, sorry. I use screen instead
[12:10] <Delvien> scootadoota IN ubuntu
[12:10] <timfrost> Delvien, the error apears to be a bug in the kernel headers package for 2.6.15-10-386. File a bug against that package
[12:10] <Coag> midwinter: are you aware if it's the same with breezy
[12:10] <thegladiator> and the result is 2c2f3c6e4d5c7974bc4eb3ad280df9a2
[12:10] <Syco54645> tonyyarusso, ah ok i just got my computer working again after almost a year, tabs are a new thing.  thanks
[12:10] <Coag> sudo gedit /etc/dchroot.conf
[12:10] <Coag>     * Add this line: hoary /chroot
[12:10] <doub> i'm trying to install ubuntu by hand, from the breezy live-cd. following the "ubuntu install guide" on the doc/install directory on the live cd. my problem is that as i'm on a chroot, udev can't be activated, and I lack some devices in /dev. how can i create them?
[12:10] <Delvien> timfrost any idea how i can reinstall 2.6.15-9-386? i dont see it in the synaptic
[12:10] <Coag> do i jsut change that line?
[12:10] <thegladiator> ompaul, it was working perfect till now
[12:10] <KarlosII> ty seveas
[12:10] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  it could have worked on 2.6.15-9 than they patched the kernel and it affected vmware now
[12:10] <ScootaDoota> Delvien,, is you kernel built using an identical .config?
[12:10] <SweetestSavage> Coag, make sure you change all the "hoary" to breezy
[12:10] <Delvien> Scootadoota aye
[12:10] <SweetestSavage> That is, if you're using Breezy Ubuntu
[12:10] <Coag> SweetestSavage: that's what i thought
[12:10] <Coag> thanks
[12:10] <thegladiator> and my breezy was checked for mf5
[12:10] <SweetestSavage> No problem
[12:10] <midwinter> Coag: ah, yes - just make sure you change all instances of hoary to breezy
[12:11] <ColonelPanique> GnarlyBob : /me shoots bird at l ron blubbard quote
[12:11] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  cant you just boot into it?
[12:11] <Delvien> gnomefreak its borked, no wireless, no sound
[12:11] <thegladiator> ompaul, what about nautilus removal ?
[12:11] <thegladiator> and reinstallation ?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ahhhh
[12:11] <Delvien> gnomefreak thats why i asked if i can reinstall
[12:11] <thegladiator> how can I do that ?
[12:11] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: must be the kernel patch then.......what does .10 give you over .9?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> theres a kernel site grab the tar and get compiling?
[12:11] <thegladiator> how do i install natuilus from cd ?
[12:11] <Delvien> ScootaDoota nothing from what i can see,
[12:11] <hikenboot> gnomefreak: I think there is an any-any patch that fixes problems not sure if it fixes it for that kernel but...
[12:11] <gnomefreak> ScootaDoota, not much of anything
[12:11] <Delvien> hikenboot it doesnt
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> I know some of the keys on a ThinkPad go directly through the BIOS, like Fn-PgUp (Thinklight); so I don't really understand what the hibernate shortcut is doing, or where I could configure it to use the script that works instead.
[12:12] <Seveas> thegladiator, apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[12:12] <gnomefreak> Delvien, have you checked bugzilla yet?
[12:12] <ompaul> thegladiator, in a terminal >>sud apt-get --reinstall nautilus<<
[12:12] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: probably a bug fix in some highly obscure option that nobody really uses...but screws up your vmware!...can you revert to .9?
[12:12] <butcherbird> Seveas: does that purge configs?
[12:12] <ompaul> thegladiator, in a terminal >>sudo apt-get --reinstall nautilus<<
[12:12] <Manifold> What's the command to open a file in the default file browser?
[12:12] <Seveas> butcherbird, no
[12:12] <Delvien> gnomefreak aye, no one has the same problem, but the guy i was chatting with last night installed kernal 10 and same prob came up,
[12:12] <butcherbird> Seveas: ok
[12:13] <KarlosII> is there a new faq/howto for java install for ubuntu?
[12:13] <Delvien> gnomefreak i would like to go back to 2.6.15-9-386 but i need to reinstall so to speak
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  it may block something that vmware uses with the iptables
[12:13] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: what a reinstall?
[12:13] <ompaul> KarlosII, do >>/msg ubotu java <<to read the factoid
[12:13] <Delvien> gnomefreak and formating and starting over is not a option
[12:13] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: in what sense?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  you need to compile the new one or start over :((
[12:13] <ScootaDoota> Delvien:  thats a bit extreme
[12:13] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know of a GNOME application (GUI of course) that captures video via a webcam or video recording device ??
[12:14] <gnomefreak> than cancel that latter
[12:14] <Delvien> ScootaDoota i need to reinstall 2.6.15-9-386 kernal image, but i dont see it in the synaptic..
[12:14] <Delvien> gnomefreak poopy :(
[12:14] <Manifold> What's the command to open a file in the default file browser?
[12:14] <stoneage> what is a kernal?
[12:14] <KarlosII> !javadebs
[12:14] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[12:14] <Delvien> a piece of corn :)
[12:14] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: hold on a sec
[12:14] <thegladiator> gr8 news ompaul , reinstall did work
[12:14] <Stormx2> stoneage: Kernel is the root of ubuntu. Linux is a kernel.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  your not gonna find it in there get it from that kernel site that everyone uses
[12:14] <david_m_e> stoneage, i can explain that if u like
[12:14] <Seveas> ubotu, java =~ s/seveas/mirror2/
[12:14] <ubotu> Seveas: that doesn't contain 'seveas'
[12:14] <gnomefreak> !kernel
[12:14] <thegladiator> thanks Seveas and ompaul :)
[12:14] <Delvien> !kernel
[12:14] <ompaul> thegladiator, so log out and log in
[12:14] <Delvien> !kernal
[12:14] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Delvien
[12:15] <thegladiator> yep
[12:15] <TrueChaos> HDD in the freezer, if this breaths some life back into it Im gonna be amazed
[12:15] <tonyyarusso> crimsun: The basic scoop is that pressing Fn-F12 to hibernate doesn't work properly, but sudo /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh does, so I want to change the keypress action to that, or modify the action called by the keypress to work like that script, and I'm trying to figure out if I can do that.
[12:15] <Stormx2> Delvien: Kernel with an "e"
[12:15] <ghb> skon: What the...?! The drivers from Intel are 44 MB large?!!
[12:15] <Delvien> gnomefreak im guessing its not easy to do that way...
[12:15] <ompaul> thegladiator, more important how did it break - how old is your hard drive?
[12:15] <Delvien> stormx2 i know
[12:15] <Seveas> ubotu, javadebs =~ s/seveas/mirror2/
[12:15] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[12:15] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: does System> Logout> Hibernate  work properly?
[12:15] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[12:16] <Delvien> ghb thats because it includes the w32 Network intel/Pro/Wireless App
[12:16] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, I believe so, yes.  (Haven't been using it much as of late.)
[12:16] <bshumate> tonyyarusso:  have you looked into tpb ?
[12:16] <Coag> midwinter: it's a small world i actually know the guy that posted that chroot howto
[12:16] <ghb> Delvien: ... Oh. Very well, I'll just take it all...
[12:16] <Delvien> ghb hehe:)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  here you go http://www.kernel.org/
[12:16] <gnomefreak> thats one site atleast
[12:16] <tonyyarusso> bshumate, I have it.  I'm wondering if keys that were predefined somehow might work any differently.
[12:16] <Pygi> freaky: ping, why don't you respond? :P
[12:17] <gnomefreak> pong
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> bshumate, I use it with XOSD for my volume buttons.
[12:17] <gnomefreak> wasnt here
[12:17] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: did you install the .10 kernel via apt, or compile it from source?
[12:17] <Manifold> What's the command to open a file in the default file browser?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> was using google for someone
[12:17] <david_m_e> when i click on my linux box on the list of workgroup computers on my XP box, it asks me for a name and password, which fails when i use the same name/password for this session. Did i miss a step when configuring Samba to allow me to acces this box from my XP computer?
[12:17] <Pygi> gnomefreak: hehe, k :) code is updated today once again :)
[12:17] <cary> psusi, so now im back to where i was (only this time in expert mode) and i still am a bit confused as to waht i need to do to make ubuntu be on hda6. currently its set to "use as fat32 file system". ...annnd...yeah. dont know what to do.
[12:17] <ompaul> Manifold, depends on the file type
[12:17] <bshumate> tonyyarusso: i believe you can change the function of any of the buttons via a configuration file, can you not?
[12:17] <cary> psusi, i mean do i delete the partition? i just dont know what to do to be like "yeah..this one..use it"
[12:17] <Delvien> ScootaDoota apt
[12:17] <Manifold> ompaul, I want a command that opens up my HD's contents in my file browser.
[12:17] <ompaul> Manifold, you can start with nautilus and it should trigger the correct app
[12:18] <Delvien> ScootaDoota dist-upgraded to it, without knowing it
[12:18] <tbw> Anyone know what I need to do
[12:18] <psusi> cary, it sounds like you already have the disk partitioned the way you want, right?
[12:18] <timfrost> Delvien, I just checked the menu.lst in a dapper install ion a VM.  The -9 kernel is there.  I suggest you reboot and go into the grub menu
[12:18] <Delvien> gnomefreak hmm thats wird not in ghter
[12:18] <Manifold> Ah, thanks, Omeed
[12:18] <Manifold> ompaul,
[12:18] <Manifold> Meh.
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> david_m_e, I had to have UNIX accounts with the same name and password as were on the Windows box.
[12:18] <Delvien> timfrost aye it is... but kernal9 is borked, i have no wireless , no bluetooth, and no sound
[12:18] <tbw> To get like basic development tools installed?
[12:18] <david_m_e> tonyyarusso: where do i set those up?
[12:18] <Delvien> timfrost it installed with that
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> bshumate, Unless those keys are somehow set up to bypass the OS, which they might be, as Fn-PgUp is.
[12:19] <tbw> I'm trying to build gtkpod and it's all sorts of broke ;)
[12:19] <gnomefreak> Delvien, make it work?
[12:19] <cary> psusi, yeah.
[12:19] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: bummer......shouldn't have to reinstall  though
[12:19] <cary> psusi, so am i just dumb and doing a step i dont need ot?
[12:19] <mikearthur> hey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?
[12:19] <psusi> cary, there should be a setting in the installer for the target location... tell it /dev/hda6... btw, are you sure about that location?  if this is the second drive in the system it shold be hdb not hda
[12:19] <butcherbird> tbw: sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[12:19] <Delvien> gnomefreak lol sorry , wasnt looking at keyboard.... I said , wierd its not in there
[12:19] <tbw> butcherbird, : That's what I'll ttry
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> david_m_e, First, in System > Administration > Users and Groups, and then you'll need to add matching accounts to smb.
[12:19] <tbw> It's already installed.
[12:19] <ompaul> Manifold, nautilus is the browser in gnome is it what you want?
[12:20] <tbw> I need gnome-development stuff
[12:20] <david_m_e> tonyyarusso: thanks, i'll have a look
[12:20] <tbw> I'm missing a lot of different m4 macros
[12:20] <LordMelkor> is it possible to access files from another partition
[12:20] <Manifold> Yups, ompaul, thanks.
[12:20] <tbw> config.sub config.guess -- stuff like that
[12:20] <LordMelkor> with ubuntu installed separately
[12:20] <sda3mon> okay i just upgraded to a newer 2.6 kernel and now i cant use shift+pgup to scroll up in a terminal...i get "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)" and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known"
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> Is there something I could run that would either tell me what Fn-F12 was calling without actually doing it, or at least log it so I could check after bringing the system back up?
[12:21] <ompaul> Manifold, I did not understand the meh for a min or so - there it was your typo - better not to type anything to correct it :) you had me confused
[12:21] <cary> psusi, well maybe the drive im booting win2k on is the second drive? but the win2k drive is 40 gb and the 'second drive' is 60, roughly partitioned in 3rds. the smallest of which is 18 million raw open bytes orwhatever
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> LordMelkor, Yes, you just have to modify your /etc/fstab and mount the partition you want access to.
[12:21] <cary> psusi, and thats the one i want. i checked their totaly byte space in windows
[12:21] <LordMelkor> how do i do that
[12:21] <sda3mon> LordMelkor: what partition are you trying to access?
[12:22] <sda3mon> LordMelkor: do you understand the whole /dev/hd* setup?
[12:22] <Manifold> I didn't understand your last sentence, ompaul, for a few seconds. I still don't. ;] 
[12:22] <matthew_w> Could someone help me with setting up a home network, on one Ubuntu PC, and one Windows?  I have no idea where to even begin...
[12:22] <butcherbird> LordMelkor: depends on parition type windows (ntfs) etc
[12:22] <gnomefreak> !network
[12:22] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[12:22] <LordMelkor> what happend is that i some how messed up my fist ubuntu installation so that it cant log in unless you ar e root, so what i did was i reinstalled ubuntu on this computer making a new partition for it
[12:22] <Jowi> hello everyone. is there any development still going on for sawfish? The sourceforge page seem to stop after 2003. does anyone have sawfish-themer that works with the sawfish version that exist in universe?
[12:22] <LordMelkor> however i have some important files on the first partition
[12:22] <Manifold> ubotu has a great sense of humour.
[12:22] <ubotu> Manifold: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:23] <Pygi> !midi
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> Wait, I think I found it.  /var/log/acpid.  It shows it calling the lid script instead of hibernate.
[12:23] <ubotu> [midi]  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[12:23] <LordMelkor> that i would like to copy to this partition, and then delet the first partiotion to free up space
[12:23] <cary> psusi, under "[!!]  Partition Disks" which option am i looking for tell it where to target?
[12:23] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; well.. that wasn't really a whole lot of help.
[12:23] <matthew_w> lol
[12:23] <ompaul> Manifold, your meh was why I asked were you okay then I figured out why you had typed it, better not to :-) that is all
[12:23] <sda3mon> LordMelkor: what partition is it? you need something like "mount -t ext2 /dev/hda? /mnt/hda?"
[12:23] <psusi> cary, you don't want to partition at all... you want to install to existing partitions
[12:23] <Pygi> ubotu tell bud_ about midi
[12:23] <gnomefreak> matthew_w, sorry i didnt knwo he didnt give a link
[12:24] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; lol it's ok.
[12:24] <matthew_w> I kind of figured.
[12:24] <gnomefreak> matthew_w,  do you have a router?
[12:24] <cary> psusi, well i skiped the partitioning and it said i hadnt selected a target or something like that
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> How can I check the HOTKEY number of a keypress?
[12:24] <Manifold> Aha, I understand now, ompal
[12:24] <LordMelkor> sda3mon im new to linux sorry :( im not quite sure what u are talking about
[12:24] <psusi> cary, also you should verify that you have the right location... hit alt+right arrow to switch terminals... get to the one that says press enter to activate this terminal.. do so... then type fdisk -l /dev/hda
[12:24] <ScootaDoota> Delvien:  are you still around?
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> Or grab keycodes for that matter.
[12:24] <sda3mon> well what partition are you trying to access? For example, the first partition on the first hard disk? or what?
[12:25] <sda3mon> LordMelkor: ^
[12:25] <psusi> cary, I'm not sure exactly how, but you need to choose the option to install to an existing partition
[12:25] <LordMelkor> sda3mon yes im pretty sure its the first partition
[12:25] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; yes
[12:25] <cary> psusi, hitting help now. hah.
[12:26] <gnomefreak> matthew_w, what do you want a network for to mount windows drive from linux? to print?
[12:26] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; I'm sharing an i-net connection, that's working, I'm just wondering how I can get my Ubuntu box to share files w/ my other windoze boxen
[12:26] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; send files b/w the two
[12:26] <Omeed> I looked at this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to fix my grub installation, but the problem is that i dont have a hda3, i have hda1, 2, and 5. i dont know which ones i should mount
[12:27] <Manifold> I'm really starting to like Linux.
[12:27] <gnomefreak> !share
[12:27] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell matthew_w about mount
[12:27] <sda3mon> LordMelkor: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and login to the terminal...then type "mkdir /mnt/hda1", press enter...then "mount -r -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1" and hit enter...then press CTRL+ALT+F7
[12:27] <Manifold> !network
[12:27] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[12:27] <butcherbird> Omeed: you are on livecd?
[12:27] <Omeed> butcherbird, yes
[12:28] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; well, if I mount it, doesn't that mean I can only send files to IT and it can't send files to -me- ?
[12:28] <psusi> Omeed, mount whichever partition you have linux installed on
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> Omeed, See if you can tell what's what in the output of fdisk, cfdisk, or the like if you don't know.
[12:28] <butcherbird> Omeed: if u type sudo fdisk -l should list your paritions. what partition was ubuntu under?
[12:28] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; besides, where would I mount it?  Like, what would the mount path be?
[12:28] <Omeed> ubuntu was under kda1, but which one is /boot under
[12:28] <ScootaDoota> Delvian: you can get new kernel image at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[12:28] <Omeed> is it just somewhere in hdb1?
[12:29] <Delvien> ScootaDoota yes im here
[12:29] <ScootaDoota> Delvian: you can get new kernel image at http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[12:29] <psusi> Omeed, then use hda1...the default installer doesn't make a seperate /boot partition
[12:29] <butcherbird> Omeed: never fixed using the wiki here is how i do it: type sudo grub
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Omeed, /boot will be under the same as / unless you specified otherwise at install.
[12:29] <cary> psusi, i have IDE1 master as that is my 60 gig listed as hda, and my other drive with win2k listed as hdc. there i no hdb
[12:29] <ScootaDoota> Delvien you need to install the package from the from the command line
[12:30] <sda3mon> i just upgraded from linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 to linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 and now i cant use Shift+PgUp to scroll up in terminals, can anybody help me?
[12:30] <Omeed> psusi butcherbird, i am in the grum command line
[12:30] <butcherbird> Omeed: once in grub type root (hd0,0) then enter then type setup (hd0) should say it setup correctly
[12:30] <Delvien> scootadoota what is it?
[12:30] <psusi> cary, ok... great... then tell the installer to install to an existing partition... let it format it
[12:30] <gnomefreak> matthew_w, if you want to use windows to send file to ubuntu you need to find a windows program that is compatible with linux
[12:30] <Friar_tuck> what is the best hardware ip phone for ubuntu?
[12:31] <ScootaDoota> its a .deb package that contains the kernel image you need i.e. 2.6.12.9
[12:31] <matthew_w> gnomefreak; or use the winbox to set up an FTP then download the files?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> something like ssh
[12:31] <cary> phew. i dont knwo whats going on now but i may be in fact installing
[12:31] <Omeed> butcherbird, when i type in root(hd0,0) it says Unrecognized cmmand
[12:31] <Delvien> scootadoota can you send it again
[12:31] <ColonelPanique> Friar_tuck : Cisco 7640
[12:31] <cary> well i know i am installing, but im just now sure if its right., psusi
[12:31] <butcherbird> Omeed: BUT you will need to add windows manually it u do this put a space setup (hd0)
[12:31] <psusi> Omeed, you need a space between root and (
[12:31] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: it should just be a link to the website:
[12:31] <tonyyarusso> Why would my /etc/acpi/actions/ only contain three files, lm_ac_adapter.sh, lm_battery.sh, and lm_lid.sh?  There are more scripts in its parent directory.
[12:32] <Delvien> scootadoota can you link me it in here? didnt recieve it
[12:32] <ScootaDoota> its http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[12:32] <Manifold> Does anyone use mail notification here? How can you get it sit in your notification tray?
[12:32] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: does that appear?
[12:32] <Omeed> butcherbird, alright it checked as bunch of things, and says done, does that mean its installed properly?
[12:33] <mike_> ndiswrapper sucks
[12:33] <butcherbird> Omeed: yes try reboot
[12:33] <psusi> Manifold, I usually just leave thunderbird running... sometimes I just minimize it, and sometimes I put it on another virtual desktop
[12:33] <butcherbird> Omeed: w/o cd
[12:33] <Delvien> scootadoota thats it, thanks bro
[12:33] <cary> psusi, fantastic. base system installation error
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> I have this in /etc/acpi/events/ibm-hibernate:
[12:33] <Manifold> Thunderbird is too bloated just to check my gmail account.
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> event=(ibm/hotkey HKEY 00000080 0000100c)
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> action=/etc/acpi/ibm-hibernate.sh
[12:33] <Manifold> I prefer the webbased interface anyhow.
[12:33] <psusi> cary, oh?  what's the error?
[12:33] <ScootaDoota> delvian: do you know how to install it?
[12:33] <cary> psusi, the debootstrap program exited with an error (value 1)
[12:34] <cary> said to check /target/blabhabl   log for errors
[12:34] <Delvien> ScootaDoota sudo dpkg -i <filename> aye :)
[12:34] <psusi> cary, hrm... hit alt-right arrow to cycle over to the tty with details
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> That is the correct HKEY for my Fn-F12, so why isn't just calling that script what it does?  (Calling the script manually from a command line works perfectly, resuming from the shortcut is buggy.)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Delvien,  i didnt see a .deb on that site
[12:34] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: cool
[12:34] <gnomefreak> i saw a tar
[12:35] <Delvien> gnomefreak on the one scoota gave me? you have to download it from a mirror
[12:35] <ghb> Is there any command do see what modules are currently loaded?
[12:35] <cary> tar: ./usr/share/man/man3/Locale: :gettext.3pm.gz: invalid argument    psusi
[12:35] <cary> that kind of thing?
[12:35] <Phinite> I need to partition an existing windows drive and I've been told I can do it after booting to an Ubuntu live disk.  how do I do this?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh i see it
[12:36] <psusi> hrm... odd... switch to the tty with the shell and run df... what's the line with /target say?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ok back to not being here
[12:36] <cary> psusi and there is some sort of long list of 'no volume groups found" and "no matching physical volumes found" above that ...?
[12:36] <LordMelkor> ahh he left
[12:36] <leagris> Anyone here is a firefox mozilla expert ?
[12:36] <HymnToLife> Phinite > use the GParted tool
[12:36] <Phinite> HymnToLife: where do I find it?
[12:36] <cary> psusi, i dont understand
[12:36] <Omeed> butcherbird, it did not work, windows still booted up
[12:36] <HymnToLife> Appliations > Sytem tools
[12:36] <LordMelkor> can someone who has been here for a while paste what sd3mon had told me to do earlier?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> #firefox
[12:36] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: I don't have a keyboard/acpi that uses those functions, but... have you tried to bind the key to that script, for example in the gnome-keyboard properties?
[12:36] <Friar_tuck> is there a version of skypemate for linux?
[12:36] <psusi> cary, if you use alt-right arrow ( or left ) to cycle through the ttys, one should start off just saying "press enter to activate this terminal" or something
[12:37] <leagris> I have an issue with proxy.pac not working with Dapper packaged Firefox 1.5 not loading my proxy.pac file. It worked fine with FF 1.0.7
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: No, where would that be?
[12:37] <psusi> cary, press enter, and type "df" and enter... look for the line with /target in it and tell me what it says
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: It should also work outside of Gnome though.
[12:37] <LordMelkor> anyone?
[12:38] <cary> psusi, uh...none start with /target but there is something way on the right that gets cut off that looks like it says /target
[12:38] <butcherbird> Omeed: should work if sudo fdisk -l shows your parition for ubuntu then repeat hda1 will equal (hd0,0) hda2 will be (hd0,1) etc
[12:38] <psusi> cary, if it gets cut off, it is continued on the next line
[12:38] <leagris> LordLucless, at white time from GMT did it answered you. I can search my irc logs ?
[12:38] <cary> psusi, things listed: filesystem, tmpfs, none, none, /dev etc
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> leagris, No expert, but I use it a lot, and I know the firefox channel is usually dead.  What's the question?  (Small chance I can help, but maybe someone will know if you ask.)
[12:39] <butcherbird> Omeed: make sure when you setup you type just 'setup (hd0)'
[12:39] <cary> psusi, ahh..thats waht that random t is (though half the g and the e are still gone). it says 1% /target
[12:39] <sig> hey guys I'm having huge issues with my laptop, after a few minutes everything switches to read-only. I ran memtest and it didn't find anything wrong with my memory, is this because the HD is going bad?
[12:39] <Manifold> Adios.
[12:39] <ScootaDoota> butcherbird: cfdisk is much nicer to use
[12:39] <psusi> cary, ok... on the same line is the device... is it /dev/hda6?
[12:39] <SillyZ> Coag, thanks that was exactly what I needed for the radeon setup, works slick now!
[12:40] <leagris> tonyyarusso, I ned a PAC (Proxy Auto Configuration) javascript file so some corporate intranet goes through a proxy ad others connexions go direct to the net
[12:40] <Omeed> butcherbird, when i use the setup command, the parameter should be the ubuntu hard drive or the windows one? windows is my primary hard drive and is the master not the slave
[12:40] <Danl[1] > whats the command to view ip info in console?
[12:40] <dop182> putz! this channel is English
[12:40] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: if i remember it correctly, should be in either gnome-keyboard-properties or gnome-keybinding-properties (haven used gnome for ages). for X in general I *think* the xbkevd handles the events. xkbwatch should give you an indicator if it reacts at all when you press a key (should light a led if you press the Win key for example)
[12:40] <sagarp> i have a folder of .deb files....what do i write in sources.list to make it an apt-get source?!
[12:40] <cary> this is what it says, on that same line, which is incidentally the last line (psusi)
[12:40] <Coag> SillyZ: awesome
[12:40] <butcherbird> Omeed: setup should just be hd0 because we are not installing to a partiiton but just to the mbr of the hd
[12:40] <dop182> i dont't speek english
[12:40] <Jrex-Linux> :O
[12:40] <Jrex-Linux> Coag!
[12:40] <leagris> tonyyarusso, my proxy.pac file worked with FF 1.0.7 but it is ignored or ont loaded by FF 1.5 Deer Park packaged for Ubuntu Dapper
[12:40] <dop182> bye
[12:40] <cary> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 17654784
[12:40] <Coag> Jrex-Linux: hello
[12:40] <cary>  etc
[12:41] <cary> oops
[12:41] <Hobbsee> sagarp: why not just run sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the folder?
[12:41] <mwe> sagarp: I don't think you can. use sudo dpkg -i foo.deb to install
[12:41] <cary> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 17654784    psusi
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> leagris, Beyond my scope, never dealt with a proxy.  Maybe someone has though.
[12:41] <stroh> moin
[12:41] <butcherbird> Omeed: an example for me would be root (hd0,1) then setup (hd0)
[12:41] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas is so nice, he logged into my system and fixed sudo, Coag
[12:41] <SillyZ> now if I can figure out why Im getting a bad EOF while downloading vmware from tucows ill be set
[12:41] <sagarp> hobbsee well i just formatted and i copied my archives folder...if i do dpkg -i * it complains about dependencies because of the order in which it goes =X
[12:41] <psusi> cary, oh my... hrm... did you upgrade this disk to "dynamic disk" in windows?
[12:41] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, and messed up your CS server ;)
[12:41] <ghb> I just don't get it. What do I have to do to be able to use encrypted WLAN...?
[12:41] <Omeed> butcherbird, i understand hat, however my windows computer, which is the MBR is hda whereas my ubuntu is hdb, so im just wondering if that makes any difference
[12:41] <cary> psusi. ahahahahahaahah what?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Don't have a Win key to test your example.  Will look through those things.  What if X isn't up at all, just virtual terminals?
[12:42] <leagris> tonyyarusso, I searched for simmilar bugs on bugzilla.mozilla.org but only found simmilar issue resolved by rebooting a Windows system :/ proxy.pac not loaded
[12:42] <Coag> Jrex-Linux: i had no clue sudo was broken for you?
[12:42] <Dreamglider> does anyone here have vice installed on ubuntu ?
[12:42] <psusi> cary, that is one weird name for the device... my only guess as to why is that it's a dynamic disk...
[12:42] <cary> psusi, shoudl i just go back and format that disk? should it be fat 32? it MAY be ntfs
[12:42] <Hobbsee> sagarp: and if you stick them in the folder where the install debs normally go, then upgrade, what happens?
[12:42] <butcherbird> Omeed: ah well whichever the bios is booting which in your case seems to be hd0
[12:42] <sagarp> hobbsee, ? which folder is that?
[12:43] <leagris> tonyyarusso, proxy.pac is an underdocumented and quite edged feature that allow a callback javascript to redefine if an URL is to go dirrectly to net or through a given proxy
[12:43] <psusi> cary, the installer should have formatted it for you didn't it?  type mount and find the line for /target... it should mention "ext3"
[12:43] <Friar_tuck> how do i install a .deb?
[12:43] <Hobbsee> sagarp: /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:43] <Phinit1> I've booted to the ubuntu live disk, but I can't find QTParted, or GParted.  does anyone know where the partitioning tools are?
[12:43] <Hobbsee> !tell Friar_tuck about deb
[12:43] <Friar_tuck> thanks
[12:43] <mwe> Friar_tuck: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[12:43] <sagarp> hobbsee oh :P
[12:43] <sagarp> let me try it
[12:43] <Jrex-Linux> Coag, I screwed up my /bin, therefor messing up sudo badly
[12:43] <Dreamer_uk> Seveas, I am reloading from scratch, is the wiki howto still the best howto for freenx on ubuntu?
[12:43] <butcherbird> Omeed: it would be then root (hd1,0) setup (hd0)  hd1 would be hdb
[12:44] <Omeed> ah ok
[12:44] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: don't really know. I havent tried to configure that. maybe have a look at packages "keymapper" "hotkey-setup" and maybe even "hotkeys".
[12:44] <cary> psusi, i see nothing anywhwer after typing mount on that tty (?) that says ext3
[12:44] <Omeed> butcherbird, and then just reboot?
[12:44] <cary> example of what i see: tmpfs on / type tmpfs (rw)
[12:44] <butcherbird> Omeed: assuming hdb1 is the ubuntu install yes
[12:45] <cary> oops.. i forgot to say psusi again
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Okay.
[12:45] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: if you screwed up /bin I don't think there's much to do but reinstall
[12:45] <hydroksyde> hmm... xubuntu, ubunut, kubunut, edubuntu... what's next, GNUStubuntu???
[12:45] <psusi> cary, there should be a line like this: /that/long/crazy/device/path/you/pasted/earlier on /target type ext3 (rw)
[12:45] <cary> psusi, trying osmething
[12:45] <Jowi> !info hotkey-setup
[12:45] <Jrex-Linux> lol
[12:45] <psusi> cary, instead of ext3 it might be reiserfs
[12:45] <psusi> if you chose that option
[12:45] <Jrex-Linux> well I only screwed up the permisions to /bin
[12:45] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: how?
[12:46] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: "hotkeys" look most promising at first glance
[12:46] <cary> psusi, /that/long/path on /target type vfat is all i see
[12:46] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: all the files in there or just the dir?
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> All right, question that sounds complicated to me, but might seem simpler to you:  As someone new to Linux, I've sort of been learning by breaking things some of the time.  I'm thinking about just backing up files and doing a clean install.  If possible, I'd like to avoid downloading all of my new programs and updates all over again.  Can I back up some of those too, and have apt upgrade from the backup for things that
[12:46] <tonyyarusso>  exist in there?  (I'd only be doing some of them this way most likely.)
[12:46] <Omeed> butcherbird, thank you so much, it is working now
[12:46] <Phinit1> I bounced and missed any answer to the question about where to find gparted, or qtparted
[12:46] <Seveas> hydroksyde, gnubuntu as fsf-pure Ubuntu variant is being discussed
[12:46] <psusi> cary, ohh my, that's the problem.. you didn't get setup to format the partition, so it is fat instead of a real linux filesystem
[12:46] <cary> after vfat it says (rw, nodiratime, fmas[cut off] )
[12:46] <Delvien> ScootaDoota when i install this it wont screw with my current kernal correct?
[12:46] <cary> psusi, ah
[12:46] <butcherbird> Omeed: good to know :) did u have an option for booting windows?
[12:47] <Jrex-Linux> mwe, yup, all the files
[12:47] <cary> changing to ext3 now psusi
[12:47] <hydroksyde> Seveas, I meant ubuntu with a GNUStep based desktop
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> Phinit1, gparted is in main.
[12:47] <sagarp> hobbsee it's just getting data from the web =/
[12:47] <Omeed> butcherbird, yes and they all work well.
[12:47] <psusi> cary, there should have been an option to format it in setup... but you can do it from the shell
[12:47] <cary> psusi, the mount point should be "/" right?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> sagarp: darn!
[12:47] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: how are the perms fscked ?
[12:47] <psusi> cary, eh? what are you doing?
[12:47] <hydroksyde> Seveas, Windowmaker, GWorkSpace,etc.
[12:47] <Phinit1> tonyyarusso: I'll look again, hang on
[12:47] <cary> psusi, im back in set up
[12:47] <sagarp> hobbsee ordinarily i woudlnt care, but i'm home for xmas and the internet is sloow =/
[12:47] <psusi> cary, oh ok, you are finding the optiopns to have setup format the partition?
[12:48] <cary> psusi, im back in set up, setting that part to ext3. and im wondering what the mount poitn should read.
[12:48] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: should be fine
[12:48] <psusi> cary, otherwise you can do it from the shell easily
[12:48] <psusi> cary, should be / I believe
[12:48] <tonyyarusso> sagarp, Same issue here.  Dialup is making me wary of trying to get anything done.
[12:48] <cary> psusi, trying.
[12:48] <Jrex-Linux> mwe, I changed all the permisions to just give access to only the regular user
[12:48] <sagarp> tonyyarusso =/ it's no fun
[12:48] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: can you boot into single user mode (rescue)
[12:48] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: bad idea!
[12:48] <Jrex-Linux> I know, but its already fixxed
[12:48] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: _never_ mess with /bin /sbin /usr and the like
[12:49] <Jrex-Linux> k
[12:49] <Phinit1> tonyyarusso: I can't find it.  I'm using a 5.04 disk
[12:49] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: your current kernel should remain...the new one installed and then the links should be added automatically in the grun config
[12:49] <whoppix> hey, my friend has a problem getting his sound card with ubuntu to work... alsamixer says: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory", and we dont know how to work out this problem... maybe anyone can help out?
[12:49] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: it's fixed?
[12:49] <tonyyarusso> Phinit1, 5.10 here, but you can check where it should be for Hoary at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:49] <Delvien> ScootaDoota aye it did, hopefully it fixed my wireless card not being found in kernel 9
[12:50] <crimsun> whoppix: which sound card does he use?
[12:50] <Jrex-Linux> mwe, yes, Seveas loged into my comp and fixed it
[12:50] <whoppix> crimsun, one moment, plz
[12:50] <mwe> Jrex-Linux: I see. good
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> I've gotten to like the permissions concept in Linux.  How can I make files saved on a USB drive from Linux still be restricted-access if the drive is opened on a Windows machine?
[12:50] <whoppix> crimsun, something onboard... we try to find out with dmesg
[12:51] <Delvien> ScootaDoota brb in 8 mins if it doesnt work
[12:51] <crimsun> whoppix: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[12:51] <psusi> tonyyarusso, you don't... windows doesn't have such concepts
[12:51] <whoppix> crimsun, thx
[12:51] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: fingers crossed.....
[12:51] <psusi> tonyyarusso, you can format the disk with a linux filesystem like ext3 and it will remember the owner and permissions you set... but windows won't read it at all
[12:52] <whoppix> crimsun, ICH6 Family is that the information you want?
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> psusi: What if the Windows box had the ext2/3 driver?
[12:52] <crimsun> whoppix: I need more than just ICH6
[12:52] <whoppix> crimsun, ok
[12:52] <crimsun> whoppix: lsmod|grep ^snd_intel8x0
[12:53] <ghb_> I've tried everything! My encrypted WLAN just won't work. Unencrypted, it does, but then anyone can surf on my network...
[12:53] <Kindred> tonyyarusso: then the permissions wont work
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Kindred, It'll still be dumb and open everything?
[12:53] <crimsun> ghb_: did you use WPA?
[12:53] <whoppix> crimsun,  Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) <<that?
[12:53] <Kindred> tonyyarusso, yep
[12:53] <ghb_> crimsun: No, just WEP.
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Kindred, Geez.
[12:53] <crimsun> whoppix: yes.
[12:54] <Dreamglider> i just downloaded the VICE (commodore emu) and did ./configure i get this -> http://pastebin.com/487884
[12:54] <tehdot> anybody have any luck getting a netgear wg511 v2 working in ubuntu?
[12:54] <crimsun> ghb_: install wpasupplicant and edit /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:54] <Syco54645> what is the link that is like gentoo-portage for ubuntu?
[12:54] <mark3l> guauu
[12:54] <ghb_> crimsun: Is that better than WEP?
[12:54] <Omeed> Dreamglider, do you have gcc installed?
[12:54] <tonyyarusso> I had a program to hide a partition on my flash drive (Imation) until running it and entering a password, but that didn't run in Linux, so I was hoping I had another option.
[12:54] <mwe> Dreamglider: why didn't you just sudo apt-get install vice?
[12:55] <crimsun> ghb_: in many respects, yes.
[12:55] <whoppix> crimsun, whats now? is its possible to solve this problem without recompiling the kernel?
[12:55] <Dreamglider> mwe, is it in a repo ?
[12:55] <mwe> Dreamglider: yeah. in universe
[12:55] <Dreamglider> sweet
[12:55] <mwe> !tell Dreamglider about universe
[12:55] <crimsun> whoppix: lsmod|grep ^snd_hda_intel
[12:55] <ghb_> crimsun: Umm. I set the access point to use WPA, but now I can't enter a password or anything. =(
[12:55] <Delvien> dootascoota didnt work and 2.6.15-9 is now unbootable
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> mwe, I see it as multi.
[12:55] <mwe> tonyyarusso: ok
[12:55] <cary> 	psusi, this may be an obvious thing, but its telling me there are three kernels. does it matter which i use? linux-386, linux-image-386, linux-image-2.6.12-9386
[12:56] <Delvien> dootascoota thats alright , ill just wait till they fix the issue with vmware
[12:56] <mwe> Dreamglider: multiverse it is
[12:56] <crimsun> ghb_: most APs have a wired iface, too
[12:56] <mwe> !tell Dreamglider about multiverse
[12:56] <Delvien> dootascoota sucks though because my Mp3 player needs windows to put mp3s on it
[12:56] <crimsun> ghb_: use that to configure your AP
[12:56] <cmatheson> cary: linux-image-386 is just a package that installs linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 (the newest kernel)
[12:56] <whoppix> crimsun, outputs nothing
[12:56] <crimsun> whoppix: which command?
[12:56] <whoppix> crimsun, lsmod|grep ^snd_hda_intel
[12:56] <cary> cmatheson, so should i select the last one? its asking me to pick on
[12:57] <cmatheson> cary: sure
[12:57] <skon> 12-9 is the newest kernel?
[12:57] <crimsun> whoppix: ok. Try: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[12:57] <tonyyarusso> Delvien, does it actually, or does the box claim it does?  My sister's says that, so I'm going to check it out one of these days to see if Linux can just treat it like any USB drive.
[12:57] <ghb_> crimsun: I'm using that, but, my point is--how do I set a password? The configuration tool doesn't allow me to set a password when I choose WPA. How will I know what to use?
[12:57] <SillyZ> Q: is it possible to resize a reiserfs partition thats already installed?
[12:57] <Dreamglider> mwe, it's installed, now where do i start it ?
[12:57] <Delvien> tonyyarusso it doesnt treat it like its a USBdrive..
[12:57] <cmatheson> SillyZ: hmm, parted may be able to do it
[12:57] <whoppix> crimsun, FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel not found.
[12:57] <crimsun> skon: in Breezy, 2.6.12-10.25
[12:57] <mwe> skon: no 2.6.15-rc7 is but I think 2.6.12 is the newest in ubuntu repos
[12:57] <Delvien> tonyarusso what mp3player does your sis use?
[12:58] <mwe> Dreamglider: type vice in a console I guess
[12:58] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: bollox......are you booting with the .10 kernel?
[12:58] <crimsun> whoppix: uname -r
[12:58] <skon> that's what I thought, I wasn't sure why he said 2.6.12-9 was the newest
[12:58] <Delvien> ScootaDoota now i am ,
[12:58] <gthb> Good evening
[12:58] <mwe> Dreamglider: use dpkg -L vice|grep bin to find the binaries
[12:58] <tahorg> hi, is there any unofficial dapper repository with gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad available ?
[12:58] <whoppix> crimsun, 2.6.10-5-386
[12:58] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: dis it give yoiu the otion to boot the .9 kernel?
[12:59] <crimsun> whoppix: he's using Hoary?
[12:59] <ghb_> crimsun: There's a WPA-PSK, with an option to set a pass phrase. Should I use that?
[12:59] <stroh> jep
[12:59] <whoppix> crimsun, i think so... wait a second
[12:59] <bloodnik> Can someone suggest me a package I might install so I can set up my box as an HTTP proxy?
[12:59] <Delvien> scootadoota yeah boots into a shell script though
[12:59] <crimsun> ghb_: yes.
[12:59] <crimsun> whoppix: any reason he's not using at least Breezy?
[12:59] <whoppix> crimsun, yes, he is using ubuntu hoary hedgehog
[12:59] <ScootaDoota> Delvien:  ???...how do you mean shell script...what excactly comes up?
[12:59] <Phinite> I can't find gparted on the ubuntu live (5.04) disk at all.  parted is there, but it doesn't work with NTFS partitions.  my goal is to resize the main NTFS partition on the drive to be smaller
[01:00] <mwe> skon: I see linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[01:00] <psusi> tonyyarusso, then windows would be able to read the disk just fine
[01:00] <Dreamglider> mwe, is there no gui for vice ?
[01:00] <whoppix> crimsun, he say the breezy server was too slow oO
[01:00] <johan_> qtparted?
[01:00] <sagarp> er
[01:00] <mwe> Dreamglider: I don't know. I dont use it
[01:00] <whoppix> crimsun, should he install breezy?
[01:00] <sagarp> is there a way to remove packages using .deb files
[01:00] <Phinite> couldn't find that either johan_
[01:00] <Delvien> Scootadoota it says something along the lines of it cant boot into the kernal, Fail, booting into built in shell script (has a name cant remember it )
[01:00] <skon> mwe: I know....I was correct cmatheson.....I use that one too
[01:00] <Dreamglider> http://pastebin.com/487892
[01:00] <crimsun> whoppix: he doesn't _have_ to, but it will help
[01:00] <skon> correcting*
[01:01] <psusi> cary, I am surprised it is asking you that... there is only one real choice... the other two are just meta packages that depend on the real image... go with linux-386
[01:01] <johan_> Phinite: apt-cache search qtpart?
[01:01] <tonyyarusso> How do I configure a microphone/line in jack?
[01:01] <Phinite> checking now
[01:01] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: okay.....can you  change to /boot
[01:01] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: clarify?
[01:01] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: in a terminal
[01:01] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: alsamixer :)
[01:01] <Adriana> hello
[01:01] <psusi> Phinite, the livecd has gparted right there on the main applications menu
[01:01] <Jowi> hello Adriana
[01:01] <cary> psusi, haha. i went with the last one based on what the other person said. seems to work though i guess. ?
[01:01] <mebaran151> I am running Ubuntu64
[01:02] <mebaran151> but I would like to use Eclipse, which does not seem to work
[01:02] <mebaran151> and develop Java applications
[01:02] <cary> psusi, im now installing the remaining packages so everything seems to be okayu
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Plugged something in to the little spot with the mic picture on my comp, next the the headphones jack, for the first time, and didn't hear anything.  Wondering why.
[01:02] <psusi> cary, yea... but if you installed the one with the really long name, you won't automatically upgrade when newer kernels come out... but that doesn't happen often
[01:02] <Delvien> scootadoota command for that is?
[01:02] <mwe> mebaran151: it works fine for me.
[01:02] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: "alsamixer" chose the mix and press "M" to unmute it.
[01:02] <whoppix> crimsun, ok, he will install breezy *g*
[01:02] <linlin> i have a 64bit cpu...and alot of apps dont run or compile right because of it, is there a way i can just load in all the 32bit libraries on top of the 64 bit ones so stuff works, while still using a 64bit kernel?
[01:02] <mwe> mebaran151: I downloaded and installed myself to get the latest version, though
[01:03] <stroh> rofl
[01:03] <cary> psusi...hmmm...is that problematic? is it worth going through this again to install to taht one?
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: How do I tell which one I want?  There are like four that sound possible.
[01:03] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: also crank up the volume on it. that's it. save the setting with "sudo alsactl store"
[01:03] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: sorry.....open up a terminal from the applications > system tools menu at the top menu bar
[01:03] <cary> psusi, and will i be able to upgrade at all?
[01:03] <whoppix> crimsun, thx for the help :)
[01:03] <stroh> why do you loughin whoppix?
[01:03] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: try one after the other. the change is instantanious
[01:03] <mebaran151> mwe, oh do tell
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: All right.
[01:03] <mebaran151> do I need to get the official Blackdown JRE
[01:03] <mwe> mebaran151: what
[01:03] <mebaran151> how to setup up Eclipse on AMD64
[01:04] <Delvien> ScootaDoota im a mid level linux user, the onlything i dont know how to do in linux is the really hard stuff. ( to save you time)
[01:04] <mebaran151> I want to do some Java Devel on my 64 bit workhorse
[01:04] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: make sure you unmute and toggle the mic in the Capture view, too.
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Can I raise the volume on things in alsamixer, and how?
[01:04] <mwe> mebaran151: oh. sorry. missed the AMD64 part
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, The what?
[01:04] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: yep. up/down arrow
[01:04] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: no probs....so you have your terminal
[01:04] <Delvien> aye
[01:04] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: F4 in alsamixer.
[01:04] <psusi> cary, naw... don't worry about it
[01:04] <mwe> mebaran151: have you tried just downloading it and untarring to /opt ?
[01:05] <mebaran151> oh
[01:05] <mebaran151> no
[01:05] <mebaran151> I haven't
[01:05] <painkiler_> does anyone have a copy of source.list?
[01:05] <painkiler_> i messsed mine up
[01:05] <mebaran151> does AMD64 havea working Java solution though?
[01:05] <crimsun> !tell painkiler_ about repos
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Okay, now how do I do it there?
[01:05] <ghb_> crimsun: I don't see how WEP is any different or better than WPA. They look and seem to work the same, in my opinion. =/
[01:05] <mwe> painkiler_: next time back it up before you mess with it, please
[01:05] <crimsun> ghb_: WPA is better than WEP.
[01:05] <Delvien> ghb_ WEP is easily cracked.
[01:06] <gthb> ghb_, WEP is a weak encryption algorithm
[01:06] <tehdot> can anybody help me get ndiswrapper working?
[01:06] <mwe> !ndiswrapper
[01:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:06] <mwe> tehdot: look at that
[01:06] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: hmmm, F4 does not work for me in alsamixer... "Mic" should be the one you would want to alter. alsamixer may have more options for you if you just scroll right.
[01:06] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: in Capture view, toggle (space bar) Capture so that it reads "capture"
[01:06] <ghb_> gthb: Ah, thanks. =)
[01:06] <mebaran151> ghb_, wpa is easier to use (you don't have to use random hex as your pword)
[01:06] <mebaran151> AND
[01:07] <mwe> Jowi: waht's f4 supposed to do in alsamixer?
[01:07] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: and of course set the level
[01:07] <Dreamer_uk> Seveas, are you about?
[01:07] <Jowi> mwe: no idea
[01:07] <ghb_> mebaran151: This is true... WPA, for the win!
[01:07] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: cd /boot
[01:07] <mebaran151> wpa changes your pasword every day
[01:07] <mebaran151> or however
[01:07] <painkiler_> it is actually the begining of the source.list the deb cdrom: bit
[01:07] <Jowi> mwe: maybe they were talking about something else i didn't follow
[01:07] <mebaran151> it uses a preshared key to share the encryption it actually uses
[01:07] <painkiler_> i dont know the name of the cd
[01:07] <ghb_> mebaran151: What? I have to change my password every day!? =(
[01:07] <mebaran151> ghb_, no
[01:07] <mebaran151> that's the point
[01:07] <mebaran151> it uses a preshared key you make up
[01:07] <ghb_> mebaran151: *phew*
[01:07] <Delvien> ScootaDoota k
[01:07] <mebaran151> to send passwords to everybody
[01:07] <mebaran151> encrypted
[01:08] <mwe> wpa is not safe with the crappy passwords users typically use, like 'mom' and the like
[01:08] <ghb_> mebaran151: I see... Or... I think I do. ^
[01:08] <mebaran151> so you have two layers of encryption in the end
[01:08] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: in F3 Playback view, unmute the mic and set the level
[01:08] <mebaran151> one sends the keys and the other is the keys themselves
[01:08] <gthb> mebaran151, WPA is harder to setup than WEP, not every driver and device supports it.
[01:08] <mebaran151> gthb, yeah
[01:08] <mebaran151> but it is more secure in theory
[01:08] <Jowi> mwe: you totally guessed my WPA passkey! :-(
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> crimsun and Jowi: Hmm, not getting anything with this now.  An area for exploration later.
[01:08] <ghb_> gthb: My crappy-ass ubuntu machine refuses to work with WEP (works unencrypted) so I'm open for anything. WPA is my next approach.
[01:08] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: pastebin your amixer output
[01:08] <mebaran151> in practice, I don't think it is excessively true
[01:08] <mwe> Jowi: hurry up. change it to dad and you'll be safe
[01:09] <gthb> ghb_, what kind of a wireless card?
[01:09] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: list this directory, do you see vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386  and  initrd.img-2.6.12-9-386
[01:09] <ghb_> gthb: Intel PRO/Wireless [sucky]  2200BG
[01:09] <Delvien> scootadoota yes
[01:09] <gthb> It's the same as mine :)
[01:09] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: i just plug in the mic. crank "mic" up in alsamixer and press M to unmute it. thats it. should hear yourself breath heavilly into the mic
[01:09] <gthb> And I love this wifi card
[01:09] <Jowi> mwe: phew, just in time. great advice
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> Jowi & crimsun, May later, when my sister's not sister here wondering what's going on.  (I'm trying to play through from her mp3 player.)
[01:10] <mwe> Jowi: any time
[01:10] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: in the same directory change to the grun directory and do a more on menu.lst
[01:11] <ghb> gthb: And yours work?
[01:11] <Delvien> scootadoota you lost me at grun :P
[01:11] <gthb> ghb, my 2200BG worked out of the box here.. I havn't gone to school since I setup ubuntu on my laptop but it worked fine with gentoo
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> What do USB devices look like in /dev?
[01:11] <Delvien> scootadoota grub?
[01:11] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: depends on the type of usb device.
[01:11] <ghb> gthb: Well, mine works fine at uni. Don't know what kind of stuff they got there, but it still worked!
[01:11] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: mass storage is scsi, so /dev/sdX
[01:11] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: sorry the grub directory (i'm a lousy typist)
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, It's a Samsung mp3 player.
[01:12] <mwe> gthb: didn't you have to dl the firmware yourself?
[01:12] <gthb> Hmm, no, it even worked when I was installing from the cd
[01:12] <Kindred> with a chroot do you have to install x & gnome.. etc, to use gui based stuff?  I am installing one so I can run wine so I can run dvdshrink.  lol, this is probably more hassle than it's worth.
[01:12] <Delvien> scootadoota everything looks fine in menu. points to the right HD and partition
[01:13] <crimsun> Kindred: yes.
[01:13] <mwe> gthb: really. I thought it wasn't legal to distrbute the firmware. I must be wrong about that then, though
[01:13] <Delvien> Scootadoota ummm... i know whats wrong
[01:13] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: try "sudo modprobe usb-storage" first of all. then you should see it in "dmesg"
[01:13] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: ok....thats for the .9 kernel
[01:13] <crimsun> Kindred: unless you use some xauth magic, then you don't have to
[01:13] <Delvien> scootadoota you gave me link to 2.6.12, not 2.6.15
[01:14] <mebaran151> has anyone successfully setup Java on an AMD64 rig
[01:14] <mebaran151> and has anyone got eclipse to play nice as well?
[01:14] <Kindred> crimsun: ah .. okay thanks.  maybe I will look into that
[01:14] <ScootaDoota> Delvien:......oh shit.......sorry
[01:14] <stroh> bye
[01:14] <crimsun> sure, mebaran151. I use the Sun JDK.
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Is there a way to narrow down what I'm looking for there?
[01:14] <Delvien> scootadoota hehe, can you link that page again
[01:14] <skon> Anyone know why the Ipchains HOWTO is so old?
[01:14] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: yep. dmesg | grep sda
[01:15] <mwe> mebaran151: there is no working java plugin I hear, though
[01:15] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: thats cos I'm on a 2.6.12-10 kernel....hold on just get that link for you
[01:15] <Seveas> Dreamer_uk, yes
[01:15] <crimsun> skon: because ipchains _is_ old. You want iptables.
[01:15] <gthb> ghb, it's funny to say, this card works 100% here in linuxland, but it locks up my machine when I'm using windows :p
[01:15] <mebaran151> mwe, I don't vist to many Java sites anyway, or at least I don't think I do
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: No output.
[01:15] <skon> crimsun: oh...okay thought they were for different purposes, thanks
[01:15] <ghb> gthb: Hahahahaha!
[01:15] <mwe> mebaran151: I keep hearing going with the 32bit ubuntu is the best choice for now
[01:15] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: is the mp3 powered on?
[01:15] <mebaran151> is the sdk in the repos?
[01:15] <mebaran151> IU don't want to reinstall again!
[01:15] <mwe> !java
[01:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:15] <crimsun> mebaran151: no, it's very much non-free.
[01:16] <gthb> ghb, so, have you figured out what's wrong?
[01:16] <mebaran151> I thought it would be, but we include the w32codecs too I thought
[01:16] <Seveas> mebaran151, no
[01:16] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: try to power off/on for the device after usb-storage is done
[01:16] <mebaran151> not even in the multiverse?
[01:16] <ghb> gthb: I don't have a clue. And soon I will shoot myself. But I'm still trying out WPA. Pray to God it works...
[01:16] <Seveas> mebaran151, nope
[01:16] <crimsun> mebaran151: no.
[01:16] <mebaran151> hmmm
[01:16] <mebaran151> ok
[01:16] <Seveas> ghb, wiki/WPAHowto
[01:16] <crimsun> ghb: did you configure those two files?
[01:17] <gthb> ghb, can you describe the setup you are using? It often helps geting a couple more eyes on what you are doing :-)
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Yeah, it's on.  I don't think it will even let me power off while it's plugged in to the USB port.
[01:17] <ghb> crimsun: I'm about to. Still messing around with wpa_supplicant
[01:17] <mwe> mebaran151: there's easyubuntu to install all that for you, but I don't know it works with 64bit
[01:17] <ghb> ghtb: Well. I'm following what it says on <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto>.
[01:18] <gthb> ghb, I mean wep wise
[01:18] <mebaran151> is blackdown any good?
[01:18] <mebaran151> it has a Java plugin
[01:18] <cdehaan> Hello. What components of Ubuntu allow it to hibernate on a laptop?
[01:18] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: ok. try to reconnect it. wait a few seconds then try again now that usb-storage is loaded. it should also show in "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices"
[01:18] <gthb> mebaran151, It has worked for me since I started using linux :p
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: dmesg | grep usb has some stuff in it that might mean something.
[01:18] <ghb> gthb: When I tried using WEP...? I tried to setup that one up with the GNOME Network tool.
[01:19] <mebaran151> why doesn't gcj work, just to know?
[01:19] <mwe> ghb: I spent about 5 hours getting it to work. In the end I found out my custom kernel didn't support the michael mic encryption method. doh
[01:19] <gthb> ghb, Nevermind, I'm misunderstanding :p
[01:19] <mebaran151> it seems eclipse refuses to load with the free Java setup openoffice uses
[01:19] <crimsun> cdehaan: the kernel, acpi{d,-support}, and hotkey-setup
[01:19] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: you should see in "dmesg | grep usb" something like "usb-storage: device found at 2"
[01:19] <mwe> ghb: I don't know if the ubuntu kernel supports that. you need it
[01:19] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: doesn't seem to be a 2.6.15-9?
[01:20] <ghb> mwe: I haven't messed around in the kernel. There's little I have been doing on this machine because I'm still figuring out how it will be nice to me...
[01:20] <crimsun> mwe: it does.
[01:20] <cdehaan> crimsun: How can I backup whatever files these settings are in?
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: I see it.  The cat command showed something with the right manufacturer and model.
[01:20] <Delvien> scootadoota prolly cus its Dapper kernal :(
[01:20] <mwe> crimsun: good. built in or as a module?
[01:20] <mebaran151> or gij?
[01:20] <crimsun> cdehaan: just keep the debs in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[01:20] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: great. does it also say "Driver=usb-storage" there?
[01:20] <crimsun> mwe: 'm'
[01:20] <cdehaan> crimsun: What about for hotkeys?
[01:20] <mwe> crimsun: so one needs to load it then I take it
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Driver=(none)
[01:21] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: thats searching the dapper stuff too
[01:21] <cdehaan> crimsun: I'll be totally honest, I'm a fedora user normally, but I couldn't get sleeping/standby to work. Ubuntu does it perfectly. I'm trying to get it setup properly on Fedora.
[01:21] <crimsun> cdehaan: hotkeys is probably necessary in Breezy. I'm in Dapper where hotkey-setup obsoletes it.
[01:21] <mebaran151> hey, the jdk is in my repos!
[01:21] <mebaran151> well what do you know
[01:21] <Randum_Idiot> any body no how to setup java plugin 4 ubuntu, i386, i tried it many times using many online help things, but no success
[01:21] <gthb> Good night
[01:21] <mebaran151> well 1.4.2
[01:21] <mwe> ghb: well make sure the module is loaded or it wont work
[01:21] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: so it is not supported by usb-storage ... maybe... crap. maybe it need another driver. don't know to be honest which one might be suitable...
[01:22] <lightbright> Jowi: hello :)
[01:22] <apokryphos> !tell Randum_Idiot about javadebs
[01:22] <crimsun> mwe: it loads automatically
[01:22] <LordMelkor> how can i delete a partition, and reclaim the freed space?
[01:22] <cdehaan> crimsun: So basically hotkeys tells acpid "hey, they pressed the Suspend key. Suspend!"
[01:22] <mwe> crimsun: all right. good then
[01:22] <ghb> mwe: The module is loaded. Whenever I use it unencrypted it works fine. It's just when I enable WEP that I no longer get any connection whatsoever with the network.
[01:22] <ghb> mwe: It just dies...
[01:22] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: got a samsung mp3 and a sony camera that both uses usb-storage happily, so i'm a bit lost there...
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Hrm.  Are we sure it would have autodetected that?  I wonder what would happen if we told it to use usb-storage anyway?
[01:23] <ScootaDoota> Delvien:  Is it just vmware that doesn't work...or other things like sound, and usb support?
[01:23] <ghb> mwe: I can find others' networks, though. One is unencrypted so I'm thinking about using that one instead... -_-
[01:23] <mwe> ghb: wep? aren't you trying to get wpa to work?
[01:23] <ghb> mwe: I am now. I've given up on WEP.
[01:23] <mwe> ghb: I see
[01:23] <Delvien> scootadoots in kernal 10 Vmware doesnt work , but other things do. in 9 vmware works and a bunch of hardware doesnt
[01:23] <LordMelkor> how can i delete a partition, and reclaim the freed space?
[01:23] <crimsun> ghb: so where are you in the config?
[01:24] <ghb> crimsun: yup.
[01:24] <Delvien> dootascoota any idea how to revert back to the old 9 kernal? or is that option out the window
[01:24] <crimsun> ghb: "yep"?
[01:24] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: my samsung mp3 is a YP-MT6Z. if you have a YP (Yepp) it should work.
[01:24] <Delvien> dootascoota in kernal 10 Vmware doesnt work , but other things do. in 9 vmware works and a bunch of hardware doesnt
[01:24] <ghb> crimsun: I have (I think) set up what I need to do. But when I try wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi I just get a bunch of errors
[01:24] <mwe> ghb: wep was easy for me, but with all the cracked wep networks I heard about lately I switched to wpa
[01:24] <ghb> crimsun: Oh sorry, I thought you asked if I was in the config file. =)
[01:24] <lightbright> Jowi: hello :)
[01:24] <_joshua> hi i just installed Ubuntu :)
[01:25] <Jowi> hi lightbright
[01:25] <lightbright> _joshua: why?
[01:25] <jono> hi all
[01:25] <skon> lol
[01:25] <ghb> _joshua: Prepare for hell. =P
[01:25] <crimsun> ghb: you need a "-w" in your OPTIONS= line
[01:25] <eugene_> joshua: You FOOL!
[01:25] <ghb> crimsun: Oh... I'll try that.
[01:25] <jono> can anyone recommend a tool packaged for ubuntu to grab a frame from a webcam and save it to a file?
[01:25] <Delvien> _joshua dont listen to them... Welcome to ubuntu
[01:25] <ScootaDoota> Delvien: Thats a problem with prebuilt kernels....I generally build my own from the source (not that difficult) as there is always something missing :(
[01:25] <crimsun> ghb: next, you need to change ENABLED=0 to ENABLED=1
[01:25] <_joshua> :)
[01:25] <apokryphos> anyone know how to kill whatever's using alsa/soundserver? lsof /dev/dsp gives nuthin'
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: YP-T7J.
[01:25] <hayngeek> how do you burn the ubuntu iso
[01:26] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: sounds good
[01:26] <crimsun> apokryphos: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[01:26] <CodyDH> crimsun: which program captures the Fn + Esc (Suspend) keycombo?
[01:26] <Seveas> !tell eugene_ about coc
[01:26] <apokryphos> !tell hayngeek about install
[01:26] <_joshua> how can i make the terminal transparent
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: So what do I do next to try it?
[01:26] <ghb> crimsun: Hold on now. Too much info at once. =) I'll try to add the enabled stuff.
[01:26] <lightbright> _joshua: why would you do that?
[01:26] <kjs-> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an old pentium 400 I have, I installed a cdrom (that works in windows on it) but it doesn't detect it at boot...Is there a way to get it to detected, or another way to install ubuntu?
[01:26] <Seveas> it was the f*ing ban avoider again
[01:26] <_joshua> because i like it
[01:26] <crimsun> CodyDH: hotkeys+acpi{d,-support}+Linux
[01:27] <ghb> crimsun: Where do I find the enabled line?
[01:27] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: try "sudo modprobe usbcore" and "usb-storage" after that.
[01:27] <skon> kjs-, do you have  a boot options menu, a bios setup?
[01:27] <crimsun> ghb: at the top of /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[01:27] <LordMelkor> How can I delete a partition and reclaim the freed space?
[01:27] <Randum_Idiot> CHANGE THE BIOS?!?
[01:27] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor > GParte
[01:27] <HymnToLife> d*
[01:27] <apokryphos> crimsun: interesting; killing kmix helped. Thanks.
[01:27] <skon> Randum_Idiot: what's your problem?
[01:27] <ghb> crimsun: Done.
[01:27] <LordMelkor> hymntolife gparte is a program i can apt-get?
[01:28] <Jowi> _joshua: there is an option in the menues for gnome-terminal. eterm should be able to as well. if you use xterm you're out of luck
[01:28] <crimsun> ghb: now sanitise and pastebin your /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:28] <kjs-> skon: yes..I've heard some comp's that old won't boot off a cdrom though...true?
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: And what is that supposed to do?
[01:28] <skon> kjs-: it's probably true...you'll need to make a bootable floppy that will load your CD-ROM drive
[01:28] <HymnToLife> LordMelkor > Gparted* is a GNOME GUI for parted and yes, you can apt-get it
[01:28] <ghb> crimsun: Umm... there are two works in that sentence that I don't understand. I'm not English. Hold on while I look them up in my Oxford dictionary.
[01:29] <LordMelkor> thanx
[01:29] <skon> LordMelkor: what are you trying to reclaim free space onto?
[01:29] <_joshua> cool
[01:29] <_joshua> i got it :D
[01:29] <TengkSA> Seveas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:29] <LordLucless> My numpad seems to have stopped working overnight in ubuntu. It produces neither numerals, nor the un-numlocked functions. Toggling numlock doesn't change the effects. Any ideas of what could cause this?
[01:29] <HymnToLife> or boot with a Live CD (better if you want to partition a HD), it's included in the Ubuntu one
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> !tell ghb about pastebin
[01:29] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: it should give you no errors. try to reconnect the device again and check dmesg just to try if it goes automatic
[01:29] <TengkSA> Seveas, !!!!
[01:29] <TengkSA> Seveas, im stuck again it says cannot find NLTDR
[01:29] <TengkSA> Seveas, NTLDR sorry
[01:30] <hybrid> __TomB: allo
[01:30] <Seveas> TengkSA, boot from a windows cd and run fixboot
[01:30] <_TomB> evening
[01:30] <TengkSA> Seveas, i dont have a windows cd that is bootable
[01:30] <ghb> crimsun: Ah crap! I'm on another computer... Hm...
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Still nothing on grep sda.
[01:31] <bardamu> Lordlucless : is there a light above the num lock key that works?
[01:31] <_joshua> can someone hook me up with a sources list please?
[01:31] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Can't I tell it just use the usb-storage driver and see what heppens?
[01:31] <ghb> crimsun: Aah! Forgot I had a wire, too. ^^
[01:31] <hybrid> _joshua: search the wiki for "guide to hoary" it has one
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> _joshua, If you tell me how to send a file, I will.  (Haven't figured that out yet.)
[01:32] <hybrid> may need to edit it, but it works
[01:32] <psusi> TengkSA, if you don't have your windows install cd, then you're in trouble
[01:32] <CodyDH> What program does Ubuntu use to respond to the volume keys on a keyboard?
[01:32] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: trying to remember how to force a driver to a device...
[01:32] <calamari> hi
[01:32] <crimsun> CodyDH: I told you...
[01:32] <CodyDH> hotkeys as well?
[01:32] <SillyZ> Q: wheres ncurses-devel located ??
[01:32] <ghb> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6510
[01:32] <crimsun> CodyDH: no, most of those go through BIOS.
[01:32] <calamari> anyone played with creating backup copies of movie DVD's?
[01:33] <TengkSA> okay im going to sleep cant take this shit anymore
[01:33] <TengkSA> nite
[01:33] <crimsun> CodyDH: but yes, it's a combination of hotkeys and the kernel
[01:33] <TengkSA> Seveas, btw how do u run fixboot when u got the bootable winxp disk
[01:33] <LordLucless> bardamu, Yep, and the light toggles properly
[01:33] <Hobbsee> SillyZ: libncurses5-dev
[01:34] <lightbright> Jowi: hello :) good to see you
[01:34] <Hobbsee> SillyZ: in the repos
[01:34] <psusi> TengkSA, boot to the windows recovery console and type "fixboot"
[01:34] <SillyZ> Thanks Hobbsee
[01:34] <TengkSA> thanks
[01:34] <TengkSA> night
[01:34] <LordLucless> bardamu, But whether the light is on or not, the numpad problem still happens. The keyboard is hooked up via KVM to another computer, and the numpad works properly on that other computer
[01:34] <LordLucless> It used to work on this one too, but stopped recently
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: I'm being summoned for supper, so if you remember, pm it to me so it doesn't get scrolled off the screen.
[01:34] <tetralith> Question - When I switch to a virtual terminal using Ctrl-Alt-F1, my X session dies. Any ideas as to the problem? ubuntu 5.10 on Dell Latitude D400
[01:34] <crimsun> ghb: comment out lines 88, 90, and 92
[01:34] <bardamu> could you have accidentally mapped a new keyboard?
[01:34] <ghb> crimsun: Yes sir!
[01:34] <tehdot_> hmmm
[01:34] <crimsun> ghb: are you using Hoary or something?
[01:34] <psusi> tetralith, what do you mean it dies?
[01:34] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: do you have scsi disk support if you "sudo lsmod"?
[01:35] <SillyZ> Hobbsee, I see ubuntu has a different naming scheme now for devel packages, I was looking for ncurses-devel tis why I couldnt find i t
[01:35] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: no prob
[01:35] <Hobbsee> SillyZ: apt-cache search ncurses dev
[01:35] <Hobbsee> SillyZ: much easier to find it that way
[01:35] <crimsun> (libncurses5-dev)
[01:35] <tehdot_> how do you get java installed? sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[01:35] <tehdot_>  isnt working as it says it should
[01:35] <ghb> crimsun: Breezy, I think.
[01:35] <Hobbsee> you're a little late there crimsun
[01:35] <LordLucless> bardamu, I dont know how to map a keyboard, so accidentally mapping a new one is improbable :)
[01:35] <crimsun> tehdot_: enable multiverse
[01:35] <Jowi> lightbright: same to you :)
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: scsi_mod              135688  6 usb_storage,sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,ahci,libata
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> , so yes?
[01:35] <tetralith> When I switch back to vt7 using Ctrl-Alt-F7, it shows a text console, and eventually brings back the graphical login .
[01:35] <crimsun> Hobbsee: sorry, difficult to be current in 60 channels
[01:35] <ghb> crimsun: Done.
[01:36] <CodyDH> crimsun: thanks for your hlep
[01:36] <Hobbsee> hehe no problems crimsun - i understand what you mean
[01:36] <bardamu> i have standard ncurses-devel in universe on breezy
[01:36] <lightbright> Jowi: :)
[01:36] <crimsun> ghb: lsb_release -r
[01:36] <ghb> crimsun: 5.10
[01:36] <numberandom> I've just installed Ubuntu, and it refuses to grab a DHCP lease. I ran tcp dump on another machine to make sure its sending requests and it is. any ideas?
[01:37] <numberandom> ive also tried other network cards to no avail
[01:37] <tetralith> psusi: So I guess it kills the X session/server on switching to a different virtual screen
[01:37] <crimsun> ghb: Breezy
[01:37] <ssstormy> does anyone here use evolution?
[01:37] <ghb> crimsun: Yup. =)
[01:37] <Randum_Idiot> how do i connect this ubuntu computer to a windows computer on the same network so i can grab  files off the windows computer?? the windows computer works fine vs. other windows computers (of course)
[01:37] <tetralith> psusi: since it starts the login screen when I switch to vt7
[01:38] <ssstormy> I'm using evolution with my gmail account, but whenever i hit "send" on a new message, it just drops into the outbox
[01:38] <ssstormy> how do I get it to send as soon as i click "send"?
[01:38] <crimsun> ghb: ok, is "HBNETWORK" the essid for the AP?
[01:38] <ghb> crimsun: Yup
[01:38] <matthew_w> Hey - I just fresh installed Ubuntu on a second PC, Breezy, and I Noticed that the kernel messages are hawt as hell in the new dist upgrade.  On my personal PC, I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, so... how do I get the hot kernel messages?
[01:39] <ghb> crimsun: Everything above that was already there from start.
[01:39] <lightbright> is it Motion or the other planets like Mars, pulling Earth away from the Sun?  anyone here know?
[01:40] <crimsun> ghb: you could vastly simplify your config file if you delete lines 323-598
[01:40] <Delvien> Anyone here use a Philips GoGear HDD6330??
[01:40] <ghb> crimsun: Thank you--been itching in my fingers to do that. >=)
[01:40] <_joshua> can someone hook me up with a sources list please?
[01:40] <crimsun> ghb: 599, rather
[01:40] <apokryphos> !tell _joshua about sources
[01:40] <PeteyPablo> can somone tell me what the best way to completely whipe out all info on a harddrive is, like what boot cd?
[01:40] <Dreamglider> mars pulls on earth yes, but the sun, venus and merqury allso pull it twoards the sun
[01:40] <tbw> Has anyone here built gtkpod from source?
[01:41] <ghb> crimsun: Wooho! Done.
[01:41] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, fdisk it and delete all partitions
[01:41] <_joshua> is Ubuntu 5.10 .. hoary or breezy ?
[01:41] <Dreamglider> PeteyPablo, use UBCD
[01:41] <ssstormy> tbw, yeah I did once
[01:41] <Dreamglider> Ultimate Boot CD
[01:41] <LordLucless> Hmm, the "5" button on the keypad seems to minimize/restore gedit when numlock is on
[01:41] <tronix> _joshua: breezy. hoary was 5.04
[01:41] <apokryphos> Seveas: aha, 3.5 sources on source-o-matic -- nice. You might want to include a note about grabbing the gpg key, which they'd have to do.
[01:41] <tbw> ssstormy, : Did you have to do anything weird to get mp4v2 to compile in correctly?
[01:41] <LordLucless> Thats the only effect I can see for any button on the keypad
[01:41] <PeteyPablo> Dreamglider: ok, what utility on the cd>
[01:42] <ssstormy> tbw, no, nothing weird.
[01:42] <cary> psusi, it installed the bootstrap loaded on hda but windows is on hdc (apparenlty) and i got boot choice when i rebooted
[01:42] <psusi> PeteyPablo, depends... what kind of whipe out are you talking about?  like completely beyond recovery by even a determined individual?
[01:42] <matthew_w> Anyone have any ideas about that?
[01:42] <crimsun> ghb: ok, now are you using WPA or WPA2?
[01:42] <ssstormy> also, for some reason, my standard user can't access audio output on any channel, not esd, not arts, not alsa, not oss, while root can access all of them but arts.
[01:42] <tbw> ssstormy, : I can't get it to compile with mp4v2 tinvolved.
[01:42] <PeteyPablo> psusi: my friend has messed up his HD bad, and cant install an OS now i want to completely clean it
[01:42] <psusi> cary, huh?  you did get the choice to boot windows?
[01:42] <matthew_w> uboutu tell me about sources
[01:42] <ghb> crimsun: WPA. Don't think my AP supports WPA2.
[01:42] <matthew_w> wonder if that works.
[01:42] <ssstormy> tbw, I'm afraind I can't help you
[01:43] <psusi> PeteyPablo, what do you mean he can't install an OS?
[01:43] <apokryphos> Seveas: also, kubuntu.org repository isn't unnofficial -- it's quite official.
[01:43] <psusi> if the drive is physically damaged, there's only one thing to do: throw it out and get a new one
[01:43] <PeteyPablo> psusi: he can't install an os.. don't ask me ;-\ whats a good thing to clear the hd
[01:43] <PeteyPablo> psusi: no it's not physically damaged
[01:43] <ghb> crimsun: I just tried a "sudo wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -w", and I get a bunch of "Failed to set encryption". =/
[01:43] <psusi> PeteyPablo, what makes you say that?
[01:43] <cary> psusi, also, when installing the bootstraip thing, it noted that it Found win2k, but when i rebooted, it booted straight to windows. wasnt given a choice between win2k and unbuntu, as i motherboard (?) or bios (?) sees the win2k drive as primary and unbuntu sees it as secondary? not sure..but right now its going straight to windows
[01:44] <mwe> ghb: I couldn't make it work with an encrypted key in the file no matter what I tried
[01:44] <PeteyPablo> psusi: he cant install xp or ubuntu, it always fails can you just tell me what to do to help him?
[01:44] <Dreamglider> PeteyPablo, i like part to make, delete and formate partions
[01:44] <psusi> PeteyPablo, "I can't install an OS" is rather vague so it could be caused by a million things... some data on the disk is not really one of them though
[01:44] <tronix> PeteyPabl: boot off a LiveCD, run a disk partitioning utility (fdisk??), delete all partitions, recreate any desired partitions, save+quit, boot OS installer media, good to go
[01:44] <PeteyPablo> tronix: will ubuntu live cd do this?
[01:44] <mwe> ghb: I ended up putting the pass in clear in the file and chmod'ing it to 400
[01:44] <mike_> !repositories
[01:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:44] <ghb> mwe: Oh?
[01:44] <_joshua> can someone please remind me how to get into my /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <_joshua> please
[01:44] <tronix> PeteyPabl: I haven't personally tried it with Ubuntu - only using it 12 hours now, but I'd imagine it can.
[01:45] <nalioth> _joshua: sudo gedit it
[01:45] <bardamu> from prompt: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:45] <Dreamglider> _joshua,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:45] <_joshua> thanks
[01:45] <matthew_w> Can someone tell me how I would add the breezy cd rom to my sources.list?
[01:45] <crimsun> ghb: you didn't pass the correct arguments to wpa_supplicant
[01:45] <psusi> cary, which disk is the ubuntu disk?  the first, or second?
[01:45] <ghb> crimsun: Ah ok.
[01:45] <crimsun> ghb: first of all, what's the interface name?
[01:46] <psusi> PeteyPablo, I told you, get a new disk, that one is hosed
[01:46] <ghb> crimsun: At the moment it's eth1.
[01:46] <Delvien> Anyone here use Qemu?
[01:46] <PeteyPablo> psusi: no it's not
[01:46] <psusi> PeteyPablo, but if you really want to play with it some more, boot from a livecd and do something like: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda
[01:46] <butcherbird> matthew_w: why would u want to do that?
[01:46] <_joshua> hmmm is there a text editor i can use for it .. the console is confusing
[01:46] <PeteyPablo> psusi: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hd in terminal?
[01:47] <PeteyPablo> psusi: ok
[01:47] <cary> psusi, according to ubuntu, the ubuntu disk is hda and windows is hdc (not sure what happened to hdb), windows i guess sees the ubuntu disk as secondary.
[01:47] <psusi> PeteyPablo, /dev/hda.... yes
[01:47] <mike_> !easysource
[01:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:47] <Jowi> _joshua: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <tronix> matthew_w: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main
[01:47] <tronix> restricted
[01:47] <tronix> (all on one line)
[01:47] <crimsun> ghb: ok, then you'd want ``sudo wpa_supplicant -dd -w -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D madwifi''
[01:47] <psusi> cary, naw... the ubuntu disk is primary... but your bios might be set to boot the secondary... check that
[01:47] <LordLucless> Ah-ha!
[01:48] <LordLucless> The numpad is acting as a mouse!
[01:48] <cary> psusi, also, explorer is crapping its pants at the "my computer" level. the other partitions seem to read (as in i can see their contents) but its not happy about something
[01:48] <LordLucless> numpad 5 is left-click, and the arrows move the mouse cursoe
[01:48] <LordLucless> How do I stop that behaviour?
[01:48] <cary> psusi, explorer is not happy. not replying
[01:49] <tronix> matthew_w: also make sure you put it at top of the list in /etc/apt/sources.list, too.
[01:49] <tronix> not sure if you need to also run 'apt-get update' after updating sources.list
[01:50] <matthew_w> tronix; thanks, any idea about my other question about the kernel messages at boot?
[01:50] <mwe> ghb: btw I see you use madwifi. that's probably good. I have an ipw2200 card and I could not get the -D ipw driver to work and had to use the generic -D wext instead
[01:50] <PeteyPablo> can you install from the live cd?
[01:50] <Comrade> no
[01:50] <crimsun> mwe: >= 2.6.14 requires -Dext for ipw2200
[01:50] <ghb> crimsun: Hmm... I get... a lot of stuff... They don't look too good. Lots of "invalid argument"...
[01:50] <crimsun> -Dwext, rather.
[01:51] <butcherbird> PeteyPablo: not easily
[01:51] <tronix> PeteyPabl: you'll want the install CD to do that for Ubuntu. you can also repartition via the install CD, too
[01:51] <mwe> crimsun: I see. where did you find out about that? I googled for ages
[01:51] <tronix> matthew_w: hmm must've missed that. can you repost your question? :(
[01:51] <cary> psusi, woohoo...boot strap working fine now. it was the hd boot order. cheers for that.
[01:51] <crimsun> mwe: I'm the de facto maintainer of wpasupplicant in Ubuntu
[01:52] <mwe> crimsun: I see
[01:52] <tronix> mwe: didn't know about that fact but think 2.6.14 updated the wireless API to a new version which broke old stuff
[01:52] <matthew_w> tronix; sure - I was basically wondering if there's any way to "bling" up the kernel messages at the beginning, make them look better, go faster, have a theme, etc.
[01:52] <ghb> crimsun: I  got a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG, in case I didn't mention that.
[01:52] <crimsun> unfortunately that means I'm responsible for breaking it, too ;)
[01:52] <tronix> to version 19 or something
[01:52] <martint_> Hi Guys
[01:52] <Signifer123> hey
[01:52] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[01:52] <martint_> this is my first day with Ubuntu
[01:52] <martint_> and I was wondering
[01:52] <psusi> cary, cool...
[01:53] <crimsun> ghb: then you're using the wrong driver. You want -Dipw
[01:53] <martint_> How do I navigate to a different directory using the terminal
[01:53] <mwe> crimsun: It came down to my custom kernel not supporting michael mic though. doh!
[01:53] <Signifer123> cd directory_name
[01:53] <martint_> thankyou
[01:53] <Signifer123> np
[01:53] <Madpilot> martint_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[01:53] <crimsun> mwe: yeah, it needs to be much more user-friendly
[01:53] <PeteyPablo> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda will that command totally whipe the harddrive ?
[01:53] <ghb> crimsun: Righto. Administring torture to my stupid laptop. =)
[01:53] <Seveas> PeteyPablo, yup
[01:54] <tronix> matthew_w: hmm. *thinks* easiest way is a splash screen background (which I had with Gentoo, dunno how to do similar with Ubuntu). can boot faster if you customize kernel to remove unneeded drivers and remove services you don't need
[01:54] <PeteyPablo> and it can be done from a live cd Seveas, ?
[01:54] <Seveas> PeteyPablo, yup
[01:54] <PeteyPablo> :-)
[01:54] <tronix> matthew_w: in general, haven't found boot to be slow, even on an emulated VMware setup, so I haven't really bothered.
[01:54] <matthew_w> tronix; can you tell me about the splash background?
[01:54] <butcherbird> martint_: if you are looking for a command typing 'apropos whatever' example 'apropos permissions' etc
[01:54] <tronix> matthew_w: sure... let me find a screenshot. one sec
[01:55] <matthew_w> tronix; thanks.
[01:55] <ghb> crimsun: OMFG!!!!!!!!!
[01:55] <mikearthur> hey guys. I'm a gentoo user, but found that, on the breezy live cd, my joystick worked, but fails under the vanilla/gentoo kernels. Where would I go about getting the source for the kernel that was used on the Breezy Live CD?
[01:55] <mwe> crimsun: do you have any idea why it wouldn't work with an encrypted password in the config file, only clear text?
[01:56] <crimsun> mwe: don't know enough details
[01:56] <mwe> crimsun: what do you need to know?
[01:56] <crimsun> ghb: now you need to make sure that your OPTIONS= line in /etc/default/wpasupplicant is correct. Pastebin that file.
[01:57] <Ng> mikearthur: packages.ubuntu.com - the kernel should be similar to the one used by an actual breezy install
[01:57] <ghb> crimsun: It's working! It got connection! It got an IP address! It got a pulse! It's aliiiiiiive!!!!
[01:57] <mwe> ghb: congrats!
[01:57] <matthew_w> tronix; also, about the cdrom, it told me to use 'apt-cdrom' to add the cd to the sources, how would I do that... lol
[01:57] <crimsun> mwe: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[01:57] <mwe> crimsun: ok
[01:57] <ghb> mwe: Thank you! ^^
[01:57] <mwe> ghb: the credit goes to crimsun
[01:58] <ghb> crimsun: I shall assemble a small temple and sacrifice a virgin everyday in your honour! *bows bows*
[01:58] <LordMelkor> i was able to use gparted to delete an old partition but how can i reclaim that space on my current partition??
[01:58] <Jowi> mikearthur: : the package should be called linux-source-2.6.12
[01:58] <jon_> hello
[01:58] <matthew_w> tronix; figured out apt-cdrom myself.  Now just wondering about that bootscreen.
[01:58] <tronix> matthew_w: http://www.bootsplash.de/
[01:59] <LordMelkor> .....
[01:59] <Delvien> This is ridiculous WHY is it that i cant find ANY 2.6.15-9-386.deb on the net? no one hosts it???
[01:59] <Jowi> !info linux-source-2.6.12
[01:59] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 39498 kB, Installed size: 39628 kB
[01:59] <tronix> matthew_w: requires bootsplash or fbsplash stuff. I don't know how to do this with Ubuntu (yet?). I've only done it with Gentoo
[01:59] <mikearthur> Ng, Jowi thanks
[01:59] <Jowi> np mikearthur
[01:59] <matthew_w> tronix; possible, yes?
[01:59] <crimsun> ghb: I still need your /etc/default/wpasupplicant
[01:59] <mikearthur> nice to see distros helping each other out ;)
[01:59] <jon_> ok, great, PEOPLE !!! JUST installed Ubuntu, BUT after 4 days reviewing others, QUICK QUESTION, please?
[01:59] <tronix> matthew_w: don't see why it shouldn't work. normally requires a kernel built with it, but has an alternative method to enable it even w/out kernel support
[02:00] <ghb> crimsun: Oh sorry. I was so overwhelmed that I forgot about it. Will pastebin it in a jiffy.
[02:00] <LordMelkor> i was able to use gparted to delete an old partition but how can i reclaim that space on my current partition??
[02:00] <mwe> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6511. I just realized it contains an old wep key though. I don't think that's the cause though. it didn't work from the commandline either
[02:00] <butcherbird> jon_: shoot
[02:00] <Ng> Delvien: why would anyone host that?
[02:00] <Madpilot> jon_: please just ask  your question...
[02:00] <Jowi> jon_: ask and you might get lucky :)
[02:00] <jon_> Thank you butcherbird
[02:00] <jon_> here I go
[02:00] <Delvien> Ng because its part of the dapper kernals
[02:00] <Delvien> kernels
[02:00] <tronix> matthew_w: this isn't Ubuntu specific but gives you the general idea: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gensplash
[02:00] <Ng> Delvien: dapper is on 2.6.15-10
[02:00] <Delvien> Ng aye .
[02:01] <Delvien> Ng but Vmware doesnt work in 10 :P and i want it to work so bad
[02:01] <mwe> crimsun: I need to clean any old wep info. also the ssid. it still don't think that's why it don't work
[02:01] <CarlFK> if I want to build something (like mplayer) from CVS source, what are my chances of getting the script (or whatever) that is used to make the mplayer.deb?
[02:01] <Randum_Idiot> i ned help with getting the java plugin for firefox
[02:01] <ghb> crimson: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6512
[02:01] <LordMelkor> Does anyone know how to add unallocated space from a deleted partition to the current partition that i am on
[02:01] <matthew_w> tronix; well, I don't really know anything about any other distros, so I suppose it won't matter whether it's specific or not ^____^
[02:01] <tronix> :)
[02:01] <bluefoxicy> Please tell me now what crack smokers are involved in the internet.
[02:02] <bluefoxicy> "(I must admit, I am big fan of the spatial representation metaphor as opposed to the browser-like windows; and that also is one of my biggest gripes with the new Mac System.)"
[02:02] <jon_> I have a dedicated hosted leased server running LinuxRH and am running Ubuntu here at home, I need to be able to "remote desktop" to the remote Linux box GRAPHICALLY, are there any RH GUI's that would work between LinuxUbuntu and LinuxRH?
[02:02] <crimsun> mwe: erm, you wouldn't want to pre-up wpasupplicant for a WEP'd AP
[02:02] <bluefoxicy> Now tihnk about this
[02:02] <bluefoxicy> for just a second.
[02:02] <bluefoxicy> This "spatial representation metaphore" they talk of
[02:02] <crimsun> mwe: in that case you'd want to use a mapping script
[02:02] <Seveas> jon_, freenx
[02:02] <bluefoxicy> basically it means when you double-click a folder in nautilus, it opens a new window for that folder
[02:02] <Jowi> jon_: any vnc software. freenx is nice
[02:02] <butcherbird> jon_: i prefer freenx also
[02:02] <LordMelkor> Does anyone know how to add unallocated space from a deleted partition to the current partition that i am on?!?
[02:02] <bluefoxicy> so you eventually get lots of windows and the back button doesn't work
[02:02] <mwe> crimsun: the ap is wpa. I just realized the old wep info was in there. I don't think that's the cause though
[02:03] <matthew_w> tronix; looks like a lot of work for a boot screen.
[02:03] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: yes, this is one of the reasons that spatial sucks... :P
[02:03] <Randum_Idiot> i ned help with getting the java plugin for firefox
[02:03] <bluefoxicy> What the hell kind of crack smoking is it to try to associate this with some phenominal new "spatial browsing metaphor" instead of just saying "We got rid of back and made lots of windwos pop up"?
[02:03] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  Yeah I know, but I mean, spatial browsing isn't . . well. . . spatial.
[02:03] <tronix> matthew_w: Gentoo has support integrated so it's just one-time one or two liners to do. Probably more work with other distros
[02:03] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot: U nless "spatial" means "uses an unnecessary amount of screen space"
[02:03] <bluefoxicy> ALL it does is open a new window when you click a folder
[02:03] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: no, it's more "spastic" than "spatial", IMO...
[02:03] <Ng> bluefoxicy: spatial browsing means one object gets one window. it makes a lot of sense from some points of view and annoys people who are used to windows explorer
[02:03] <crimsun> mwe: what's the issue with, a passphrase for WEP?
[02:03] <Ng> Madpilot: idiot ;)
[02:03] <matthew_w> tronix; one more question, how would one "enable kernel framebuffer support" ?
[02:04] <PeteyPablo> Gentoo is too muchh work
[02:04] <mwe> crimsun: let me try. would I comment out "wirless-mode managed" too?
[02:04] <bluefoxicy> it doesn't associate files and directories with space by their size or attributes o.o
[02:04] <Randum_Idiot> i need help with getting the java plugin for firefox
[02:04] <crimsun> mwe: you can. When I used WEP, I only had wireless-essid and wireless-key
[02:04] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  Windows Explorer in 95 and 98 defaulted to that behavior, but everyone always used to turn it off in the preference.
[02:04] <mwe> crimsun: no I have wpa working, but it only works with a clear text passwd in the wpa conf file
[02:04] <holycow> guys what is the command to statup places/search for files?  i need to start that up as another user
[02:04] <Seveas> !tell Randum_Idiot about javadebs
[02:04] <tronix> matthew_w: ahhh... that would require building a kernel from kernel sources. it's possible to do that with Ubuntu but I don't know the proper steps. Think it's mentioned in one of the debian or ubuntu docs.
[02:04] <Ng> bluefoxicy: each window remembers its size and position and are hence related to space, thus spatial
[02:04] <crimsun> ghb: you need to comment out the first OPTIONS= line on line 16
[02:05] <Madpilot> Ng: Window had a spastic browser as well - My Computer...
[02:05] <ghb> crimsun: ok. Done.
[02:05] <tronix> matthew_w: I'm afraid I'm not too much help with Ubuntu. After all, been using it only 12h now :)
[02:05] <matthew_w> tronix; I would rebuild a kernel but I'm sure I'd bugger it up.
[02:05] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  after ME and 2000 Microsoft realized that philosophy was brain damaged and set everything to operate in the same window by default.
[02:05] <bradley_> help!  how do you install package once you've download the tar.gz?
[02:05] <zenlunatic> whats a good wireless card to get for ubuntu?
[02:05] <crimsun> ghb: ok, it should work now on boot. If not you'll need my modifications (in Dapper).
[02:05] <Ng> Madpilot: that doesn't stop you being an idiot ;)
[02:05] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  ah, so spatial means "waste of storage space for configuration options per directory" in this case.
[02:05] <tronix> matthew_w: think there's an alternative way with fbsplash that doesn't require building a customized kernel
[02:05] <matthew_w> bradley_; well, unpack it 1st by double clicking on it.
[02:05] <paddygman> sorry to interrupt
[02:05] <ghb> crimsun: I'll try to reboot, see what happens.
[02:05] <bradley_> matthew_w: got that... ;)
[02:06] <Madpilot> Ng: that doesn't stop "spatial" browsing from being a totally broken idea best ignored... :P
[02:06] <matthew_w> bradley_; then open a terminal in that folder, and run ./configure
[02:06] <Ng> bluefoxicy: just because you don't like it doesn't mean you have some universal truth about interfaces. Go use DOpus Magellan II on an Amiga, it'll blow any file manager you've ever used away
[02:06] <Signifer123> bradley_ try make
[02:06] <crimsun> matthew_w: we use usplash. Search the wiki for instructions for modifying it.
[02:06] <zenlunatic> bradley_, ./configure && make && make install
[02:06] <Signifer123> then make install
[02:06] <Signifer123> himm^^
[02:06] <paddygman> can anyone help me with a problem with lvm's
[02:06] <Ng> Madpilot: yes it does :)
[02:06] <matthew_w> usplash?  thanks crimsun
[02:06] <bradley_> where do i put the filename? dont i need to point to something?
[02:06] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  isn't browser mode default on ubuntu now
[02:06] <tronix> PeteyPabl: yeah, Gentoo install -- that's a lot of work, even for someone used to it. post-install, maintaining is a breeze. I dumped Gentoo on my hosted machine since too small/slow to do all these compiles.
[02:06] <matthew_w> bradley_; then 'make' then 'make install'.  Optionally, 'make clean'
[02:06] <Ng> bluefoxicy: unfortunately, yes
[02:06] <matthew_w> thanks to you too tronix ;
[02:06] <zenlunatic> bradley_, what do  you mean?
[02:06] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  which happened, IIRC, because a lot of users said, "How the hell do I turn this shit off," right?
[02:07] <bradley_> i'm trying to install tightvnc... so do i need to do make tightvnc?
[02:07] <tronix> crimsun: ahh! thanks for mention. I'll poke at it, too
[02:07] <mwe> crimsun: I just updated the interfaces file and brought eth1 down and back up. would you care to have a look?
[02:07] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: pretty much, I think...
[02:07] <tronix> matthew_w: welcome
[02:07] <bradley_> or do i just input make...?
[02:07] <mwe> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6513
[02:07] <mike_> has anyone here gotten a linksys 802.11b WPC11 pcmcia card with the realtek chipset to work on ubuntu?
[02:07] <Ng> bluefoxicy: if we follow that route we'll turn off most things because inexperienced people aren't used to them and we'll have a straight windows clone. great ;)
[02:07] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  which would indicate that spatial browsing is a little-enjoyed concept and thus such enjoyment of it is the sign of a dilusional mind
[02:07] <Seveas> tronix, maintaining gentoo is hell...
[02:07] <matthew_w> bradley_; most things will install to a default directory, and then put a bin in your system so you can just run them by typing the bin name from terminal.
[02:07] <zenlunatic> bradley_, sudo apt-get install tightvnc?
[02:07] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: I think my comment was actually, "How do I stop this thing barfing extra windows all over my screen?!?"
[02:07] <bluefoxicy> Ng:  experienced people seem to hate it too :)
[02:07] <dylan_> how do i completely remove xfce4 and all of its components?
[02:07] <Ng> bluefoxicy: or that most people are idiots ;)
[02:08] <Seveas> 3 hours downtime for a mysql update...
[02:08] <Fractal> Hey.. Anyone know where I can find the kernel configs for stock ubuntu kernels?
[02:08] <paddygman> Anyone any help with LVM'S
[02:08] <vini12341234> hey guys, i installed ubuntu to my dad's desktop, but it isnt playing nice with the rest of his network, so im gonna go back to XP until the next release, but i have a problem, XP will not recognize ANY partition that i give it. ive used Gparted many times to try and make XP use it, but it rejects it everytime. i tried using fat32, and fat16, but XP keeps rejecting it. any help would be appreciated. thanks.
[02:08] <tahorg> Ng: or kubuntu :)
[02:08] <bradley_> tried apt-get install... no packets found
[02:08] <Jowi> bradley_: i think the package is called tightvncserver
[02:08] <bradley_> oh
[02:08] <bradley_> nice
[02:08] <bradley_> thanks...
[02:08] <crimsun> mwe: I'm confused. What are you having trouble with, WEP or WPA?
[02:08] <bradley_> let me try that jowi
[02:08] <binarydigit> vini12341234: what do you mean not playing nice with your network
[02:08] <matthew_w> lol
[02:08] <mwe> crimsun: what I don't understand is why the /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf file needs to have the passwd clear text.
[02:08] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  My first comment was, "What purpose can this actually serve?"
[02:08] <mwe> crimsun: wpa and it works
[02:08] <ghb> crimsun: Still rebooting. I'm just wondering--what will I do when I take my laptop to uni? Over there I just turn on my WLAN and it works. Will I have to do some modifications?
[02:08] <vini12341234> trouble sharing drives and printers, locking up randomly (worse than XP)
[02:08] <cmatheson> vini12341234: did you put a filesystem on the new partition you made
[02:08] <zenlunatic> bradley_, apt-cache search vnc | less <-- look through that
[02:08] <vini12341234> yes and no
[02:08] <mwe> crimsun: but not with an encrypted passwd in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:08] <vini12341234> tried both
[02:09] <bradley_> thanks guys!!
[02:09] <matthew_w> crimsun; so.. do I need the framebuffer support in the kernel for this?
[02:09] <wizardjames> is there any way i could reinstall ubuntu but not have to wait soo long for it to do all of its stuff?  ..like a repair ...
[02:09] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  it'd be great if we could split windows, i.e. have a window be cloned so that you have 2 of it, back history and all.  That's good for when you're copying files around, say up in the directory tree and over to a sister directory
[02:09] <matthew_w> crimsun; *flips through wiki...*
[02:09] <crimsun> mwe: no, it works fine if you process the ascii passphrase with wpa_passphrase essid "phrase here"
[02:09] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  i.e. from ./foo to ./bar
[02:09] <cary_> psusi, believe it or not (george isnt at home) i am on ubuntu! now to sort out getting my screen res where i need it. there is a wiki on that stuff right?
[02:09] <zenlunatic> windowsrefund, not that i know of
[02:09] <zenlunatic> wizardjames, not that i know of
[02:09] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: cloning would be sort of cool, actually...
[02:09] <ghb> crimsun: Well, it works on reboot. ^^
[02:09] <zenlunatic> windowsrefund, sorry
[02:09] <Fractal> Hey.. Anyone know where I can find the kernel configs for stock ubuntu kernels?
[02:09] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  but having every directory on the way from $HOME to ./foo and ./bar as a window on screen is total bullshit
[02:09] <Ng> Fractal: when you install a kernel package its config is placed in /boot/
[02:09] <paddygman> Anyone any help with LVM'S?
[02:09] <crimsun> matthew_w: basic FB support must be 'y', yes.
[02:10] <mike_> if lspci shows my wireless nic it should be easy to set up right?
[02:10] <Fractal> Ng : Thanks a lot!
[02:10] <bradley_> what would the viewer package be called? and is there an easy way to search for packet names?
[02:10] <wizardjames> zenlunatic,  rats,   i gota reinstall again because i cant seam to get apache mysql and all that stuff working right.  and the ones that come from the repos are so old...
[02:10] <dylan_> how do i completely remove xfce4 and all of its components, programs etc?
[02:10] <_joshua> does ubuntu include a 'camera' for taking snapshots of the desktop .. i have an error and need help :(
[02:10] <Seveas> _joshua, the print screen button...
[02:10] <matthew_w> crimsun; does this mean I have to entirely recompile my kernel to get this to work?  Is there a way to find out if I currently have framebuffer support enabled?
[02:10] <zenlunatic> wizardjames, build it?
[02:10] <paddygman> Anyone any help with LVM'S?
[02:10] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  for me that'd be like, $HOME /home /home/shared /home/shared/audio /home/shared/audio/mp3 /home/shared/audio/mp3/ocremix /home/shared/audio/mp3/ocremix/new
[02:10] <psusi> carlK, the ubuntu wiki is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com, and the forums are also helpfull: http://www.ubuntuforums.com
[02:10] <zenlunatic> windowsrefund, backports?
[02:10] <crimsun> matthew_w: grep CONFIG_FB /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[02:11] <crimsun> (don't paste here)
[02:11] <windowsrefund> ?
[02:11] <zenlunatic> wizardjames, backports
[02:11] <_joshua> print screen button? where is that?
[02:11] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot: all those windows when I want to go copy from ocremix/new to ocremix/?  :)
[02:11] <wizardjames> i got them all in
[02:11] <Ng> _joshua: on your keyboard :)
[02:11] <zenlunatic> windowsrefund, sorry tab-complete is geting annoying
[02:11] <mwe> crimsun: It should but I couldn't get it to work. I guess it's a PEBKAC
[02:11] <grayman> usually above the insert button
[02:11] <_joshua> lol ok
[02:11] <windowsrefund> :)
[02:11] <tronix> matthew_w: easy to check: # grep CONFIG_FB /boot/config-2.6.12-9-386
[02:11] <bradley_> is ther an easy way to look for packet names? so i can run apt-get?
[02:11] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  it wasn't so much the window clutter that bugged me though, more that then I had to close them all
[02:11] <crimsun> mwe: sanity-check that you didn't enclose the psk with "s
[02:11] <bradley_> *there
[02:11] <jon_> seveas, jowi & butcherbird, FREENX is it, thank you, need to email the Linux technical support at hostmysite.com to install it.  THANK YOU.
[02:11] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: yeah, I've got some deep subdirectories as well, the barfing-windows trick gets insane with lots of subdirectories...
[02:11] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  trying to click 14 little X's. . . :(
[02:11] <tronix> matthew_w: (or whatever /boot/config-<kernel version> you have)
[02:11] <zenlunatic> bradley_, i told you how
[02:12] <Seveas> bradley_, apt-cache search or go to packages.ubuntu.com
[02:12] <crimsun> ghb: excellent.
[02:12] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: Ctrl+W is your friend
[02:12] <wizardjames> guess i will just reinstall..  be back in 2 hours
[02:12] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  or instead of spending 200mS - 1S between clicking directories, spending 2 more seconds to find the X on the last window and close it, :O
[02:12] <cmatheson> wizardjames: why reinstall?
[02:12] <paddygman> Anyone any help with LVM'S?
[02:12] <Ng> there's a menu item for closing parent windows
[02:12] <ghb> crimsun: Thanks a lot for your help! Couldn't have done this without you! "With or without youuuuuuuuuuuuuu"
[02:12] <bradley_> zenlunatic: sorry
[02:12] <bradley_> thanks!
[02:12] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  ^W?
[02:12] <zenlunatic> whats a good wireless card for ubuntu?
[02:12] <Ng> or you can double middle click to open a child window and close the parent at the same time
[02:12] <Madpilot> bluefoxicy: Ctrl+W is Close
[02:12] <wizardjames> cmatheson,  i messed up on a mysql and apache install and now i cant reinstall or remove it..  so i am kinda messed.
[02:12] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot: things that suck shi^W^W^W^Wwhat does that do?
[02:12] <Ng> zenlunatic: I have a Netgear WPN311 and it worked flawlessly out of the box
[02:13] <matthew_w> crimsun; CONFIG_FB=y means I have framebuffer on, yes?
[02:13] <bluefoxicy> Madpilot:  oh, alt+f4?
[02:13] <cmatheson> wizardjames: what happens when you try to remove it?
[02:13] <crimsun> matthew_w: basic support, yes.
[02:13] <_joshua> can someone help me out with this error .. i updated my sources list earlier and tried running synaptic and this is what it showed me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6514
[02:13] <cmatheson> !tell paddygman about anyone
[02:13] <matthew_w> crimsun; excellent.  I'll just follow the wiki henceforth, then.
[02:13] <crimsun> matthew_w: you might want to check what's compiled in ('y') and what's modularised ('m') in the standard Ubuntu kernels
[02:13] <beau> hey I know this isn't an ubuntu question, so I won't expect anyone to answer, but someone PM me if they know of a program that will allow multiple remote desktop sessions on a windows XP professional SP2 machine (I'm remoting in from ubuntu while @ work... so it's kind of related ;))
[02:13] <wizardjames> cmatheson,  i dont really know how to.. to be honest.   i used a download and didnt use apt-get
[02:13] <cmatheson> wizardjames: why didn't you just use apt? where did you install it to?
[02:13] <vini12341234> trouble sharing drives and printers, locking up randomly (worse than XP)
[02:13] <vini12341234> hey guys, i installed ubuntu to my dad's desktop, but it isnt playing nice with the rest of his network, so im gonna go back to XP until the next release, but i have a problem, XP will not recognize ANY partition that i give it. ive used Gparted many times to try and make XP use it, but it rejects it everytime. i tried using fat32, and fat16, but XP keeps rejecting it. any help would be appreciated. thanks.
[02:14] <dylan_> Seveas, can you help me remove xfce4 and all of its components?  i cant seem to do it in one clean sweetp
[02:14] <wizardjames> cmatheson,  i put it in the wrong dir, and cant really find it.    last time i used apt-get to install all the server struff..   it was all outdated (well most of it was)
[02:14] <zenlunatic> dylan_, is it hurting you being on your drive?
[02:14] <cmatheson> wizardjames: did you need the newer features? what folder did you put it in?
[02:14] <dylan_> zenlunatic, no, but i dont like xfce ... my stupid brother installed it
[02:14] <zenlunatic> dylan_, so just don't use it
[02:15] <wizardjames> cmatheson,  its not the newer featres its the safety updates i needed.   aw well, its not hard for me to reinstall.
[02:15] <_joshua> can anyone help me out with that error ?
[02:15] <_joshua> can someone help me out with this error .. i updated my sources list earlier and tried running synaptic and this is what it showed me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6514
[02:15] <paddygman> Hey cmatheson if you can help i have an old install of ubuntu in an lvm which has been edited with partition magic so it has lost its format the k8 or whatever
[02:15] <cmatheson> wizardjames: they generally backport security fixes even though it's an older version
[02:15] <paddygman> anyway to get access to the files in the lvm
[02:16] <Seveas> dylan_, look at debfoster
[02:16] <cmatheson> windowsrefund: use 'find' to find where you installed it... e.g. 'find / -name apache*'
[02:16] <wizardjames> o well..next time i will use apt-get to get everythin,    for now..  i gota restainll
[02:16] <paddygman> anyone able to see this
[02:16] <freakazoid3333> no
[02:16] <paddygman> good
[02:16] <wizardjames> lol
[02:16] <dylan_> Seveas, what is debfoster?
[02:16] <_joshua> anyone ??  PLEASE
[02:17] <cmatheson> paddygman: hmm, i'm not really familiar w/ lvm (especially after it's been edited w/ pm), but i'm guessing their may be a channel dedicated to lvm where you might find some experts)
[02:17] <Seveas> dylan_, install it and look at the manual :)
[02:17] <dylan_> Seveas, thanks
[02:17] <Comrade_Vladimir> what _joshua
[02:17] <_joshua> can someone help me out with this error .. i updated my sources list earlier and tried running synaptic and this is what it showed me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6514
[02:17] <da9000> anyone know what this is all about: "kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2"
[02:17] <alfonso> hi
[02:17] <Seveas> _joshua, just hit the reload button...
[02:17] <_joshua> reload in synaptic ?
[02:17] <apokryphos> yes
[02:17] <Seveas> no in your brain :/
[02:17] <Seveas> sorry, that was mean
[02:18] <_joshua> hehe
[02:18] <_joshua> no its ok
[02:18] <_joshua> that would probably help too
[02:18] <_joshua> :p
[02:18] <B-166_ER-X> Seveas, as a god and ruler of it all here, it is your right to be mean.
[02:18] <madgik85> Hello, i was wondering what the best Bittorrent and p2p client fot Ubuntu is? I am at the moment looking at Azureus and Gnutella respectivily. Are these good?
[02:18] <Seveas> B-166_ER-X, nope, there's still the code of conduct
[02:18] <Thanatermesis> any person give me a repo link please ?
[02:18] <apokryphos> :P
[02:18] <cary_> im trying to reconfigure my screen resolutions and nothing happens when i put this in terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[02:19] <B-166_ER-X> yeah, Linus Torwald would come here and kick your butt :P
[02:19] <Seveas> :P
[02:19] <Seveas> B-166_ER-X, no, Mark Shuttleworth would :)
[02:19] <B-166_ER-X> hm
[02:19] <cary_> ubotu, screen resolution
[02:19] <ubotu> cary_: Are you on ritalin?
[02:19] <cary_> -=\
[02:20] <Seveas> !fixres
[02:20] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:20] <Seveas> ^-- cary
[02:20] <LordMelkor> what are the linux swap sectors for?
[02:20] <apokryphos> Seveas: that's weird; why wouldn't chanserv unban do it? :-O
[02:20] <Seveas> LordMelkor, virtual memory
[02:20] <LordMelkor> oh
[02:20] <freakazoid3333> now the bot's gettin mean
[02:20] <cary_> Seveas, yeah thats what i was reading. ill keep trying, but it doesnt seem to like me. thanks though
[02:20] <Seveas> apokryphos, it's not a ban, it's a mute :)
[02:20] <_joshua> can anyone tell me if its common practice to intstall software that isnt authenticated
[02:20] <Seveas> no it's not
[02:20] <Seveas> it should not be done
[02:21] <_joshua> ok
[02:21] <apokryphos> Seveas: aha, of course.
[02:21] <madgik85> Hello, i was wondering what the best Bittorrent and p2p client fot Ubuntu is? I am at the moment looking at Azureus and Gnutella respectivily. Are these good? is it ok to talk about this, if not i will not mention it again?
[02:21] <_joshua> i have a list of software updates im trying to tell which ones are the ones not authenitcated
[02:21] <tahorg> madgik85: the best is bittornado
[02:21] <dandielionous> I am trying to install kubuntu.
[02:22] <Seveas> madgik85, bittornad indeed rocks
[02:22] <dandielionous> I downloaded the install cd.  But it says it's a live cd when I try to install.
[02:22] <mike_> !wifi
[02:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:22] <madgik85> tahorg Seveas : thank you
[02:22] <_joshua> is gstreamer not authenticated ?
[02:23] <Seveas> _joshua, which repositories did you add?
[02:23] <_joshua> one sec
[02:23] <tahorg> madgik85: perhaps it's not what you are looking for ... but it is the best :)
[02:24] <ghb> Is there any way to removing having to log in after closing the laptop lid?
[02:24] <dylan_> Seveas, debfoster worked, and well!  thanks :-)
[02:24] <tahorg> ghb: removing the screensaver ?
[02:24] <_joshua> Seveas: here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6515
[02:24] <ghb> tahorg: Removing or just disabling?
[02:25] <B-166_ER-X> as for what i am reading now, Seveas you mostly look like a demi-wannabe god compared to this Mr. Shuttleworth. :)
[02:25] <tahorg> ghb: I would apt-get remove it
[02:25] <Seveas> _joshua, you need to add the cipherfunk pgp key
[02:25] <_joshua> how can i do that
[02:25] <tahorg> ghb: but I imagine there are better ways to do it
[02:25] <dandielionous> I looked at the link you posted ubotu and it seems to me that's basically the same one I've just spent 8 and half hours studying.
[02:25] <_joshua> im king noob :(
[02:25] <Seveas> and wine and opera will indeed be unauthenticated
[02:25] <B-166_ER-X> hey, he's been in space, and he have actually 'Shuttle' in his last name :)
[02:25] <ghb> tahorg: Well, I don't use it anyway. So I'll just remove it. =)
[02:25] <dandielionous> <<<<Queen Noobie
[02:26] <dandielionous> Still has on bubble wrap.
[02:26] <motorsep> Hello
[02:26] <_joshua> Seveas: how can i add the pgp key?
[02:26] <ghb> tahorg: Do you know the name of the package?
[02:26] <Seveas> _joshua, one sec
[02:26] <_joshua> k thanks
[02:26] <apokryphos> Seveas: did you manage to see my notes earlier about kde repo on source-o-matic?
[02:26] <tahorg> ghb: try disabling it first on screensaver preferences
[02:27] <tahorg> ghb: then if it doesn't work apt-get remove xscreensaver
[02:27] <Seveas> apokryphos, yes, these instructions are half-finished (added all keys to the data and am looking there for the cipherfunk key now ;))
[02:27] <phos-phoros> http://www.bird-man.com/video/rocket_bird_inet.wmv
[02:27] <phos-phoros> bwahahaha
[02:27] <dandielionous> I'm having trouble with the drivers for my computer.  Specifically the video and monitor.  I have mandrake linux on my computer which seems to have the right drivers.
[02:27] <ghb> tahorg: The screensaver is already disabled. Doesn't help.
[02:27] <motorsep> I am new to Linux world.
[02:27] <_joshua> welcome motorstep, so am i :D
[02:27] <motorsep> And I want to switch to it from Windows.
[02:27] <dandielionous> I would like to copy the driver directory over to a 3.5 floppy then install kubuntu and copy the drivers over to kubuntu.
[02:28] <dandielionous> Is this possible?
[02:28] <Seveas> _joshua, gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33bac1b3 && gpg --export --armor 33bac1b3 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:28] <motorsep> So I would need your help, guys.
[02:28] <apokryphos> Seveas: all they'd need is that one command listed on kubuntu.org announcement, yup.
[02:28] <ghb> tahorg: WOHO!! Thank you so much! =D
[02:28] <_joshua> oh gosh what do i do with that
[02:28] <mekyla> hello :)
[02:28] <motorsep> mekyla: hi
[02:29] <j2daosh> ok
[02:29] <motorsep> Who I can talk to about switching from Win to Ubuntu with all my devices and soft I will need?
[02:29] <j2daosh> quick question
[02:29] <dandielionous> Does anyone know how the drivers are labeled in mandrake or kubuntu linux?
[02:29] <_joshua> Seveas: do i add gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33bac1b3 && gpg --export --armor 33bac1b3  to my sources list and the do the sudo command in terminal ?
[02:29] <_joshua> then*
[02:29] <j2daosh> motor... make sure your proggies are linux compatible
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> Does anyone know how to force a driver to a device when none is used automatically?
[02:30] <Seveas> _joshua, no
[02:30] <Seveas> you run that as one single command in the terminal
[02:30] <mekyla> having trouble getting wireless card going (madwifi) with wpa -- have followed http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90450.html .. getting 'ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : operation not supported' on invoke-rc.d wpasupplicant start
[02:30] <LordMelkor> can i get further opinions on what to do? --> http://www.geocities.com/joltmajor//index.html
[02:30] <_joshua> ok
[02:30] <j2daosh> when i reinstall xp here in about 10 minutes i know its gonna overwrite my grub loader... what steps am i gonna have to take to get it back?
[02:30] <LordMelkor> i posted the problem there
[02:30] <Ainvar> ls
[02:30] <Seveas> !tell j2daosh about grub
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, I have a link for you, hang on.
[02:31] <j2daosh> ubotu knows about that?! tell caf good job when u see him for me please sev
[02:31] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, j2daosh
[02:31] <dandielionous> Seems like the people trying to help are a little overwhelmed in here.
[02:31] <LordMelkor> any input?
[02:32] <rjordan> Anyone know how to get /etc/init.d/networking to not hang trying to bring eth0 up when it's not plugged in?
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:32] <Jowi> need to sleep. happy 2006 everyone. tonyyarusso hope it work out for you.
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Thanks.
[02:32] <crimsun> rjordan: remove auto eth0
[02:32] <j2daosh> yeah tony.. thats what i needed... thank you
[02:33] <tronix> rjordan: wouldn't hotplug do it? I'm not real familiar with hotplug, tho
[02:33] <ghb> I have one last problem with my ubuntu machine--my DVD-ROM reads very slow. It takes about 6-7 minutes to transfer the whole content of a regular CD. =/ Any idea on how to fix this?
[02:33] <LordMelkor> http://www.geocities.com/joltmajor//index.html can i get some more detailed help with this problem?
[02:33] <rjordan> crimsun, thanks
[02:34] <rjordan> tronix, I'll look into that. I'd really just like it to autodetect wether a link is present so that may work.
[02:34] <McJerry> why would sound not be working on a flash site in deerpark?
[02:34] <motorsep> Can somebody help me please? And explain what difficulties will I face during migration from WinXP to Linux?
[02:35] <LordMelkor> ... that depends on you
[02:35] <CodenameKT> Depends on your harddware
[02:35] <apokryphos> motorsep: you'll require some diligence
[02:35] <tronix> rjordan: interfaces file I use has: mapping hotplug script grep map eth0
[02:35] <skon> !anyone
[02:35] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:35] <tronix> rjordan: ('mapping hotplug', then 'script grep' then 'map eth0')
[02:36] <LordMelkor> ubotu: because no one answers questions anyway
[02:36] <ubotu> LordMelkor: I give up, what is it?
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> motorsep, What background are you coming from?  (Migrated from WinXP in August.)
[02:36] <rjordan> cool, I'll read up. I have that in there too.
[02:38] <rjordan> Am I still here?
[02:38] <rjordan> oh ok...
[02:38] <_joshua> rjordan no :p
[02:38] <motorsep> ubotu: He is a real one: I have P4 1.4 Ghz, 256 PC133 RAM, 20Gb HDD, ATI 128 16Mb video, integrated sound, Ethernet adapter, DVD-burner, Wacom tablet, USB HP printer, USB Zio Realtime Videocapture device. Will I have all that working with Ubuntu?
[02:38] <ubotu> motorsep: okay
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> rjordan, Quite the philisophical question there.
[02:38] <freakazoid3333> heh stloe my line
[02:39] <freakazoid3333> stole
[02:39] <skon> motorsep: ubotu is a bot that I called in response to your question
[02:39] <Unity> just curious, how long have some of you been using linux?
[02:39] <bluefoxicy> Somebody explain the Western Digital Ripoff-- I mean Raptor.
[02:39] <skon> Unity: as a secondary OS, uh five years I guess....as a primary OS, three months
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> Unity, Since August.
[02:40] <rjordan> 8 or so as primary at home, windows at work for the past 12.
[02:40] <skon> bluefoxicy: are you referring to the fact that Western Digital uses a different system to measure their hard drive sizes so when you get a 40GB hard drive it's really like....38.5 or something
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> Can I move things around in my bottom panel in Gnome?  (Reordering the open windows like tabs in FF?)
[02:41] <freakazoid3333> sounds like th1 19" monitor
[02:41] <Unity> tonyyarusso: yes, unlock them first
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> Unity, How?
[02:42] <Unity> tonyyarusso: or do you mean the stuff in the taskbar?
[02:42] <rjordan> tonyyarusso, right click and unlock them then drag them around with middle click
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> Unity, I mean the stuff in the taskbar.  Sorry.
[02:42] <rjordan> oh no you can't do that
[02:43] <odat> gnome rocks
[02:43] <skon> yes, gnome does rock
[02:43] <Unity> kde would be better if it didn't crash every two minutes
[02:43] <skon> gnome > kde
[02:43] <odat> sorry was just feeling good about being a gnome user lol
[02:43] <skon> kde would be better if it doesn't feel like windows :P
[02:43] <motorsep> skon: So it is a bot. Hmm...
[02:43] <Unity> i migrated from kde to gnome because kde was buggy
[02:43] <rjordan> FVWM2 > *
[02:43] <Delvien> !checkinstall
[02:43] <ubotu> somebody said checkinstall was http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[02:44] <skon> motorsep: yes, we use him to talk to n00bs :-D
[02:44] <Unity> once they fix kde's bugs, i'll start using it again
[02:44] <rjordan> How does one define things that ubotu knows?
[02:44] <odat> skon, i get that too
[02:44] <apokryphos> rjordan: define?
[02:44] <odat> skel, especially with all the use our apps not gtk stuff going on there
[02:44] <Unity> rjordan: don't teach him useless things, its a bannablo offense
[02:44] <motorsep> skon: Are you familiar with Ubuntu good enough? Maybe you can explain some things to me?
[02:45] <apokryphos> rjordan: you can browse his brain at /msg ubotu list
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> rjordan, You say, ubotu, yourfactoid is blahblahblah.
[02:45] <rjordan> yeah, how do I teach it things.
[02:45] <rjordan> oh thanks
[02:45] <apokryphos> rjordan: /msg ubotu help
[02:45] <skon> motorsep: i'm not an expert but I'll be willing to help out on anything I know
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> rjordan, Ubotu's links about itself will refer you to a page with that and other info.
[02:46] <odat> apokryphos and I just had a great conversation and came to the conclusion that LINUX   is just great lololol regardless of the desktop you choose lol
[02:46] <foampeace> does ubuntu have vlc and the firefox plugin?
[02:46] <Unity> odat: agreed
[02:46] <crimsun> foampeace: yes.
[02:46] <Kyral> foampeace: yes
[02:46] <Unity> foampeace: yes
[02:46] <foampeace> crimsun: is it better then mplayier plugin
[02:46] <skon> odat: definitely....i do most of my management via terminal anyway
[02:46] <nilsl> how do i add my native language to ubuntu breezy gnome? :)
[02:46] <j2daosh> !ubotu tell me about winmac
[02:46] <crimsun> foampeace: it's definitely more stable than mozilla-mplayer, yes.
[02:47] <foampeace> ok good
[02:47] <foampeace> screw this debian
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> foampeace, I use the mplayer one, but I honestly haven't tried the vlc plugin.
[02:47] <j2daosh> where can i get the winmac script again?
[02:47] <Unity> nilsl: system > admin > language
[02:47] <odat> nilsl, through synaptic
[02:47] <foampeace> back to ubuntu
[02:47] <motorsep> skon: So will all of my hardware work with Ubuntu?
[02:47] <j2daosh> nevermind... ill figure that out later
[02:47] <odat> skon, glad to see i'm not the only one that gets that feeling with kde
[02:47] <j2daosh> thats for the link tony... im off to reinstall
[02:47] <visik7> crimsun:  yes but vlc plugin hasn't controls
[02:47] <visik7> crimsun: time bar play/pause url retriver
[02:47] <Johnny0> motorsep - just do it - you'll find out soon enough :) no need for rocket science
[02:48] <nilsl> Unity: ok
[02:48] <nilsl> Unity: odat thx
[02:48] <odat> foampeace, i find that mplayer is nicer than vlc you just have to set it up correctly
[02:48] <Seveas> apokryphos, look at the source-o-matic now :)
[02:48] <odat> nilsl, np
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> visik7, mplayer url retriever didn't work for me, I had to check Media under Page Info.
[02:48] <crimsun> visik7: I realize that, since I touch both of those packages (mplayerplug-in and vlc)
[02:49] <marcin`> hello guys
[02:49] <nilsl> is there any webdesign-editors for linux? similar to dreamweaver and such?
[02:49] <rjordan> ubotu, mplayer?
[02:49] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:49] <visik7> ok kde crashed again :(
[02:49] <skon> motorsep: there is one thing that concerns me...your graphics card....I am not familiar with ATI video cards and I know Linux might take some configuration to get different v-cards working
[02:49] <odat> nilsl, nvu
[02:49] <marcin`> what is the name of this little app to add and remove applications from ubuntu?
[02:49] <odat> nilsl, great editor that is free and open
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> nilsl, nvu.  Screem and Bluefish can also be useful for coding.
[02:49] <crimsun> marcin`: gnome-app-install?
[02:49] <odat> marsynaptic
[02:49] <skon> motorsep: also, no idea about your video capture device...never even worked with one before....
[02:49] <crimsun> marcin`: I presume you mean the one in Applications> Add Applications
[02:49] <odat> marcin`, synaptic
[02:49] <Seveas> marcin`, apt-get, gnome-app-install, synaptic
[02:49] <Unity> nilsl: quanta is a good qt one
[02:50] <braniff> does breezy incorporate SELinux ??
[02:50] <apokryphos> Seveas: very cool; remember though they are official ubuntu packs :P
[02:50] <crimsun> braniff: no
[02:50] <odat> marcin`, system , adminstration, synaptic package manager
[02:50] <nilsl> odat: tonyyarusso thx
[02:50] <holycow> does places/finde files use locate/find?  do i need to sudo updatedb so that it can find files?
[02:50] <Seveas> apokryphos, no, only what's on archive.ubuntu.com is official
[02:50] <marcin`> thanks a lot...
[02:50] <apokryphos> Seveas: I don't know why they didn't put them in backports -- I suggested they do.
[02:50] <nilsl> Unity: thx ok
[02:50] <braniff> how do i install selinux on breezy ?
[02:50] <bluefoxicy> skon:  no, more on the 10,000 RPM hard drive being "faster"
[02:50] <Seveas> apokryphos, maybe the bad reputation of the backports? :)
[02:50] <Kyral> Backports is offical now...
[02:50] <crimsun> braniff: the same way you'd do it on Debian
[02:50] <bluefoxicy> skon:  but I can't find any of the 9200 or 9400 or whatever RPMs the normal drives were o.o
[02:51] <odat> nilsl, make sure you have all your repositories open when using synaptic
[02:51] <marcin`> odat: I thought about gnome-app-install - thanks anyway
[02:51] <apokryphos> Seveas: actually, I guess you're right; in the same way backports is considered 3rd-party.
[02:51] <apokryphos> Seveas: heh, perhaps (might've been more down to the extra hassle). Still, having to add *another* repo.. eck
[02:51] <Kyral> Ahem....backports is official
[02:51] <skon> bluefoxicy: hmm, I don't know anything about that. I do know about the size discrepancy though which ticks me off
[02:51] <Seveas> apokryphos, that one actually is official, but really should be in the 'use with care' section :)
[02:51] <martint_> Ubuntu, comes with Apache and mySQL right?
[02:51] <zenwhen> they can be installed
[02:52] <apokryphos> Seveas: if backports is official than so are the kubuntu.org ones :P
[02:52] <odat> i was checking out dapper the other day and man did they tweak gnome   woooo it flies
[02:52] <Seveas> apokryphos, no, kubuntu.org isn't archive.ubuntu.com
[02:53] <Seveas> being on archive.ubuntu.com is what makes a repository official
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> How does someone have 'unaffiliated' for their whois?
[02:54] <Riddell> kubuntu.org archives are official kubuntu archives
[02:55] <duckx0r> I've been trying to set up connection sharing between ubuntu and windows xp. In windows, I can resolve names to IP addresses, but nothing responds to the pings I send. If I ping ubuntu, I get a response. Any Idea how I can get this working?
[02:55] <Seveas> Riddell, but not official and supported ubuntu archives
[02:56] <kinkoblast> crud, I forgot my nickserv password
[02:57] <apokryphos> Riddell: I figure kubuntu.org archives wouldn't be displayed in bugzilla, eh?
[02:57] <B-166_ER-X> how do i install amsn 0.95 ?  there is only a package for Ubuntu power pc  :\
[02:57] <apokryphos> B-166_ER-X: compile
[02:57] <B-166_ER-X> dang,
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, It's in universe.
[02:58] <Jinkguns> compiling isn't bad at all. :/
[02:58] <B-166_ER-X> 0.94 is in the repos
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Wait never mind.
[02:58] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: it isn't
[02:58] <apokryphos> B-166_ER-X: sudo apt-get build-dep amsn, then compile
[02:58] <Some_Body> hm, does the breezy download come with ndiswrapper, or will I have to install it seperately?
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, apokryphos, Didn't see the version number, I was looking at 0.94.
[02:59] <B-166_ER-X> 'then compile' you would need to be a bit more specific
[02:59] <Hobbsee> !tell B-166_ER-X about compile
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> Can someone tell me how to force a driver to a device?  (Specifically usb-storage to an mp3 player.)
[03:00] <gonffen> do you use hotplug?
[03:00] <Shadyma1> about time
[03:01] <Riddell> Seveas: they are official and supported kubuntu archives
[03:01] <Jrex-Linux> Why is my cpu usage going to 100% just by dragging windows?
[03:01] <Riddell> apokryphos: how do you mean?
[03:01] <OOOOO> Hello, i have a question
[03:01] <Jrex-Linux> 1 window
[03:01] <Jrex-Linux> slowly
[03:01] <Shadyma1> OOOOO: So ask :)
[03:01] <{[Cunt] }> how can i get the command make
[03:02] <Shadyma1> {[Cunt] }:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:02] <skon> SomeBody: you have to do it yourself
[03:02] <{[Nigguh] }> thanks
[03:02] <Some_Body> :(
[03:02] <{[Nigguh] }> hi nalioth
[03:02] <{[Nigguh] }> what's wrong Some_Body
[03:02] <skon> ubotu: tell Some_Body about ndiswrapper
[03:02] <Some_Body> this could take roughly 5 minutes
[03:03] <apokryphos> Riddell: in bugzilla, when you enter a package to report a bug for -- I guess it wouldn't look in kubuntu archives too
[03:03] <Some_Body> that I could be spending not installing ndiswrapper
[03:03] <Jrex-Linux> Why is my cpu usage going to 100% just by dragging windows?
[03:03] <B-166_ER-X> i'M still not sure to get how to compile
[03:03] <Shadyma1> Jrex-Linux: : Because dragging windows is CPU-intensive.
[03:03] <skon> Some_Body: assuming you have the right driver, your card is supported by ndiswrapper, and you have patience, it will take 30 minutes maximum
[03:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell B-166_ER-X about compile
[03:04] <psusi> Jrex-Linux, because you don't have working accelerated video drivers
[03:04] <Jrex-Linux> its that intensize?
[03:04] <B-166_ER-X> i read the file..
[03:04] <apokryphos> B-166_ER-X: compiling from source generally involves, (i) extracting the archive, (ii) configuring, so: ./configure (ii) make, (iii) installing the application -- sudo make install
[03:04] <Jrex-Linux> How would I get them?
[03:04] <motorsep> What is the difference between Ubuntu GNOME and Ubuntu KDE ?
[03:05] <apokryphos> motorsep: the whole Desktop Environment
[03:05] <gonffen> one uses Gnome and one uses KDE
[03:05] <gonffen> both are bloated
[03:05] <gonffen> try out fluxbox and rejoice
[03:05] <duckx0r> pff
[03:05] <apokryphos> !start a desktop war
[03:05] <ubotu> apokryphos: Wish i knew
[03:05] <apokryphos> heh, that's gone.
[03:05] <Riddell> apokryphos: all the packages in the kubuntu archives are also in the ubuntu archives so they'll all be in bugzilla or launchpad
[03:05] <Jrex-Linux> How do I get working accelerated video drivers?
[03:05] <gonffen> lol apokryphos
[03:06] <Shadyma1> Jrex-Linux: Install an accelerated video card.
[03:06] <skon> motorsep: GNOME and KDE are windows managers, they have their own set of programs and ways to display programs and stuff...its a matter of preference which one you use. those are the most popular ones, but there are also others (of which I have no experience yet)
[03:06] <yanis> hello
[03:06] <gonffen> Shadyma1, don't you have to use a special kernel for ati cards?
[03:06] <skon> Hello
[03:06] <apokryphos> Riddell: so to clarify, bugzilla searches kubuntu.org archives too?
[03:06] <apokryphos> I'd be surprised, but that's very cool.
[03:06] <Shadyma1> gonffen: There is a package for ATi cards.
[03:06] <yanis> what more does the dvd of ubuntu have in comparison with the cd version?
[03:06] <gonffen> ah points for ubuntu :P
[03:07] <apokryphos> yanis: the DVD is install+live
[03:07] <gonffen> other distros I've seen you need to use specially compiled kernels
[03:07] <B-166_ER-X> apokryphos,  to me, it really looks like its simpler to wait that it is in the repos,  although seeming simple, i really dont get exactly what to do, so fait , sudo apt-get build-dep amsn , have done it...but now... :\
[03:08] <rottenapl> strange and serious problem: i just got done doing some work to my xbox HDD, which required me to boot from a linux cd and do some stuff with my main 2 drives disconnected. well, when i plugged my drives back in when i was done, grub no longer works -- when i try to load linux, it says Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7, and Error 17: cannot mount selected partition. When i try to load the windows partition, it says someth
[03:08] <Riddell> apokryphos: no but all the packages in kubuntu archives also have versions in ubuntu archives
[03:08] <rottenapl> any ideas?!
[03:08] <apokryphos> ok
[03:08] <rottenapl> the bios detects my drives as usual
[03:08] <skon> rottenapl: it says....somet?
[03:08] <rottenapl> something similar about the filesystem type not being recognized
[03:09] <psusi> rottenapl, did you reconnect the drives in the same order they were before?
[03:09] <Jrex-Linux> Shadyma1, Install an accelerated video card.? Isn't a radeon 9800 accelerated?
[03:09] <rottenapl> psusi: one is SATA and one is IDE
[03:09] <rottenapl> psusi: it's the exact same configuration as before i unplugged them... there is NO way that anything i did on the livecd could have affected them, since they were unplugged
[03:09] <Shadyma1> Jrex-Linux: You need the ATi graphics card package then, though I don't know what it's called.
[03:09] <psusi> Jrex-Linux, you have ot do some monkeying to get it to work... search the wiki and forums
[03:10] <Jrex-Linux> :|
[03:10] <rottenapl> psusi: when i was in here the other day i got some help fixing grub from its command line following an HDD switch in here... i can't remember what i did to reinstall it
[03:10] <rottenapl> something about the root and setup commands
[03:10] <skon> !grub
[03:10] <ubotu> grub is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:10] <skon> Try setting up grub again
[03:11] <wnoise> greetings.  am in the process of install NVIDIA binary drivers with a self-rolled kernel on Dapper and am scratching my head.  can anyone help?
[03:11] <rottenapl> it disturbs me that it no longer works
[03:12] <Shadyma1> rottenapl: I think it'd disturb anyone that their system doesn't work.
[03:12] <psusi> rottenapl, well, partition type 7 is NTFS, so it sounds like grub is trying to boot an NTFS partition
[03:12] <psusi> rottenapl, which it can't do
[03:12] <rottenapl> right
[03:12] <rottenapl> grub is on the sata drive
[03:12] <psusi> rottenapl, did you change the boot order in your bios?
[03:12] <rottenapl> when i do root (hd1,0) it says filesystem unknown (although that SHOULD be the sata drive's ext3 partition)
[03:13] <garry> rottenapl, so when you plugged your hard drives into a PC? they did not work? Is it possbile something happened in the bios? Can you recheck that the order of the drives on your computer is the same as it was before?
[03:13] <rottenapl> garry: no, sorry, let me clarify. i unplugged my drives so i could mess with my XBOX's hard drive. i changed nothing with regards to my pc's config
[03:13] <psusi> rottenapl, my guess is that you have managed to get the bios to swap the order of the two drives
[03:14] <skon> rottenapl: probably not a linux or grub problem...could be a hardware or a BIOS problem
[03:14] <garry> Yes, I'm thinking that something spontaneously happened withthe bios on the pc even tho you did not do it.
[03:14] <garry> sorry, meant that as a reply.
[03:14] <psusi> rottenapl, so grub is trying to access the wrong drive since they are backwards
[03:14] <yanis> exit
[03:14] <rottenapl> doesnt sound out of the realm of possibility
[03:14] <rottenapl> let me hop into the bios and see if i can even define the boot order more explicity
[03:14] <garry> I agree, but I've seen stranger things.
[03:14] <wnoise> rottenapl> is your XBOX drive IDE?  Would you have happened to turn on a previously disabled IDE controller in the PC? (that *would* change the order of the drives)
[03:15] <rottenapl> I put the XBOX drive on the same channel/cable as my IDE
[03:15] <rottenapl> going into bios...
[03:15] <garry> Yeah, on mine, I have a drive order I can change to make the first drive look like a second drive and vice versa.
[03:15] <rottenapl> as i recalled correctly, my boot order is set to: CDROM, Hard Disk
[03:15] <rottenapl> it doesn't specify IDE over SATA
[03:16] <rottenapl> and in fact, i can't distinguish
[03:16] <psusi> there is usually an option burried somewhere that sets the order between ide and sata
[03:16] <garry> nods. In mine, I can specifiy the drives by name. it was under boot.
[03:16] <rottenapl> ah ha, i found it
[03:16] <garry> crosses fingers.
[03:16] <rottenapl> it is giving priority to the SATA drive
[03:16] <rottenapl> psusi: weren't you in here when i was getting grub set up the other day?
[03:17] <psusi> rottenapl, try swapping it
[03:17] <garry> under boot priority is there a heading down the page saying drives or drive order?
[03:17] <psusi> rottenapl, possibly... a lot goes on around here ;)
[03:17] <rottenapl> oh man, thinking about it... i think i understand why it swapped it
[03:17] <rottenapl> after i removed the xbox drive, i booted the PC on accident without plugging my IDE back in
[03:17] <psusi> that could do it
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> Can I force a device to use a particular driver?
[03:17] <rottenapl> so i'll bet it fell back to the sata drive and assumed the IDE was gone
[03:17] <garry> I had two headings, one boot priority and a seperate one that says something about drives.
[03:17] <garry> hers hoping.
[03:18] <garry> er here's
[03:18] <motorsep> skon: Thanks. But which one resemble WinXP more? KDE or GNOME?
[03:18] <rottenapl> unfortunately, i already messed up my grub settings for sure mucking around in the cmd prompt trying to fix it beofre i realized this
[03:18] <rottenapl> but i can change that easily enough
[03:18] <Toma-> motorsep: kde
[03:18] <IdleOne> evening
[03:18] <psusi> rottenapl, yea... and you have the stage 1 grub loader installed on both disks... so when they got swapped, that part worked, but it couldn't load the OS because it was looking on the wrong drive
[03:18] <Toma-> after a bit of hacking
[03:19] <zenlunatic> whats a good wireless card to use in ubuntu?
[03:19] <rottenapl> okay, i am at the grub command prompt and i need to re-set it up to be safe
[03:19] <skon> motorsep: KDE
[03:19] <IdleOne> can somebody tell me the default directory for mozilla?
[03:19] <psusi> rottenapl, just try to boot normally
[03:19] <skon> motorsep: I prefer gnome though :-D
[03:19] <rottenapl> I have an IDE drive (windows) and an SATA drive (ext3) with grub on it. what do i need to do for the root and setup commands?
[03:19] <rottenapl> okay
[03:19] <motorsep> Toma-, skon: Thanks.
[03:19] <skon> IdelOne: probably /usr/bin/mozilla
[03:19] <rottenapl> well, that was easy enough
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> zenlunatic, I have an Intel PRO/Wireless 2915, and it works fine.
[03:19] <rottenapl> it just worked ;)
[03:19] <psusi> ;)
[03:19] <motorsep> skon: Why GNOME?
[03:19] <IdleOne> motorsep,  ty
[03:19] <garry> Yay!!
[03:19] <supremebot> can anyone help a newbie with some network probs?
[03:19] <Toma-> zenlunatic: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/HCL
[03:20] <rottenapl> anyway, awesome. it helps a lot sometimes just to have an extra set of eyes, so to speak, to see the problem from a different angle. thank you guys!
[03:20] <B-166_ER-X> how to run a .bin ?
[03:20] <garry> :)
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, Or did you mean for it's installation folder?
[03:20] <skon> motorsep: I like the applications bar, it's cleaner looking, I like the programs better, I find it prettier...hard to explain, matter of personal preference I guess
[03:20] <IdleOne> installation folder
[03:20] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: "sh yourfile.bin"
[03:20] <rottenapl> i've been having a pretty great time with this ubuntu install so far, and i've gotten excellent support in here. i appreciate it.
[03:21] <psusi> Toma-, that's not going to work
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, /usr/lib/mozilla (or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox).
[03:21] <garry> excellent folks here.
[03:21] <Toma-> oh wont it?
[03:21] <skon> IdleOne: you're welcome haha
[03:21] <psusi> Toma-, no... a .bin extention usually means it's a binary, not a shell script
[03:21] <Toma-> youre telling me the last 5 years its all just a dream? :)
[03:21] <B-166_ER-X> and it didnt
[03:21] <psusi> in that case you just chmod a+x and ./foo.bin
[03:21] <rottenapl> alright, back to it then! thanks again!
[03:21] <IdleOne> hehe yeah I meant you skon  :)
[03:21] <Toma-> >:/
[03:21] <IdleOne> ty tonyyarusso
[03:22] <Toma-> well all the .bin files ive had are just shell scripts
[03:22] <Toma-> bah. im outta here
[03:22] <psusi> Toma-, wow... whoever did that instead of naming it .sh should be beat ;)
[03:22] <skon> Does anyone know a tool for Debian/Ubuntu that automagically configures iptables?
[03:22] <garry> I was thinking he might have accidentally turned on the machine with one or more drives out.
[03:23] <garry> netconfig, but that's for slack, or it mght be net-config. It differs sometimes, if you get desperate, might try those.
[03:24] <tiagotitus> hi
[03:24] <matthew_w> tronix / crimsun  -  I did all of that stuff and rebooted, but it didn't really seem to do anything.
[03:25] <matthew_w> basically I'm trying to get it to look like http://root.chrizel.com/misc/usplash.png
[03:25] <juanr> hi
[03:25] <crimsun> matthew_w: are you using a self-compiled kernel or a Ubuntu one?
[03:25] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, : Im trying to create a symbolic link to a file but I got a "permission denied"  now what?
[03:25] <garry> try sudo before the command
[03:25] <IdleOne> ty
[03:25] <garry> np
[03:26] <ssstormy> anyone around with help for audio?  my non-root users can't access it.
[03:26] <matthew_w> crimsun; ubuntu - newest.k7
[03:26] <skon> garry: yah it's not in the repositories.
[03:26] <dncwalk> how would i change the default username/hostname on the livecd?
[03:26] <ssstormy> when I run alsamixer, though, I'm told : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[03:26] <skon> dncwalk: /etc/hostname
[03:26] <crimsun> matthew_w: did you ``dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)'' after modifying the usplash image(s)?
[03:26] <matthew_w> crimsun; yes.
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> I want to be able to mount the device described by 'cat /prob/bus/usb/devices' at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6516.  Can anyone help me?
[03:26] <sklav> Hi guys
[03:27] <sklav> and happy new year
[03:27] <sklav> ;)
[03:27] <dncwalk> skon: tried that.. changed terranews to something else..remastered livecd..and booted..and still ubuntu@ubuntu
[03:27] <crimsun> matthew_w: then the initramfs doesn't have your new image.
[03:27] <dncwalk> terranews..haha..
[03:27] <sklav> hi apokryphos kali hronia ;)
[03:27] <matthew_w> crimsun; is there any way to make it look exactly as it does there ( http://root.chrizel.com/misc/usplash.png )  - like it did when I installed breezy?
[03:27] <garry> skon nods. Hmm. There is a search try search for net config via synaptec. might get lucky.
[03:27] <dncwalk> the terrawhatever it is
[03:27] <skon> dncwalk: hmm, dunno
[03:27] <Knowerrors> is seamonkey out for ubuntu yet?
[03:27] <skon> garry: did that
[03:27] <viator> try alsaconf
[03:28] <supremebot> can anyone help a newbie with some network probs?
[03:28] <garry> ok, I'm going to go searching.
[03:28] <ssstormy> already used alsaconf as root
[03:28] <skon> !anyone
[03:28] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:28] <crimsun> matthew_w: sure. Remove any modifications you made, purge the usplash package, reinstall the uplash package
[03:28] <IdleOne> I am having the damdest time getting java enabled
[03:28] <B-166_ER-X> !tar
[03:29] <IdleOne> can somebody take the time to give me step by step instructions
[03:29] <supremebot> sorry for my bad english
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, Have you already checked out !javadebs?
[03:29] <apokryphos> sklav: you too :)
[03:29] <sklav> thank u
[03:29] <IdleOne> no I havent
[03:29] <skon> supremebot: just spit out your question and hopefully we'll be able to answer it
[03:29] <IdleOne> !javadebs
[03:29] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:29] <supremebot> ok
[03:30] <sklav> brb everyone going to watch 40 year old vergin
[03:30] <deopt> how can i get the curses library for ubuntu
[03:30] <ssstormy> deopt, search ncurses dev
[03:30] <ssstormy> in synaptic
[03:30] <crimsun> deopt: for compilation? libncurses5-dev
[03:31] <deopt> yep
[03:31] <deopt> for compile
[03:31] <deopt> is there a sudo for that
[03:32] <ssstormy> deopt, just sudo synaptic
[03:32] <ssstormy> or sudo apt-get
[03:32] <supremebot> im running ubuntu in vmware and it has worked perfect until after some updates. now i cant get ubunto to get a ip from my router i get a ip6 insted of a ip4
[03:33] <gonffen> supremebot, use static it's better anyways
[03:33] <supremebot> sorry what do u mean
[03:33] <Syco54645> im having some trouble with apt-get. it is causing an error saying  Couldn't stat source package list
[03:33] <matthew_w> crimsun; alright that's done.
[03:33] <Syco54645> what can i do to fix this
[03:33] <matthew_w> crimsun; now the package is reinstalled.
[03:33] <zezu> how can i tell what version of xf or xorg i'm using ?
[03:33] <burnhamd> is there a network control panel in the works for ubuntu/ gnome
[03:34] <motorsep> skon: Is it possible to try both, GNOME and KDE, and then stay with one of them?
[03:34] <binarydigit> burnhamd: system->administration->networking
[03:34] <zezu> looks like ati updated their drivers, going to give them another shot
[03:34] <poser> just install ubuntu and I only get a small section of gnome screen, which is all shifted up and to the right so I only get 1/4 of total window on a laptop
[03:34] <viator> becase your not superuser or sudoer
[03:34] <poser> any ideas on what to do?
[03:34] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso, ok I got the PPC version of the .deb what the next step?
[03:34] <burnhamd> yea i know about that binarydigit
[03:34] <skon> motorsep: yes, in fact i believe the default Ubuntu installation has both installed and you select which session you want to use at login
[03:34] <binarydigit> burnhamd: so what else you need?
[03:34] <burnhamd> it doesnt cover things like samba and avahi
[03:34] <burnhamd> i dont need them
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, Installing .deb standalones is sude dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:35] <burnhamd> im just spouting ideas
[03:35] <supremebot> ok no help bye
[03:35] <IdleOne> sude or sudo?
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, sudo.  sorry
[03:35] <IdleOne> hehe thats ok
[03:35] <IdleOne> just wanted to make sure
[03:35] <burnhamd> new users dont like to edit many lines of config files
[03:36] <duckx0r> I've been trying to set up connection sharing between ubuntu and windows xp. In windows, I can resolve names to IP addresses, but nothing responds to the pings I send. If I ping the ubuntu box, I get a response. Any Idea how I can get this working?
[03:36] <zezu> maybe i can find it in dmesg or smth
[03:36] <varsendagger> hey how do i figure out where a cdrom devide is?
[03:36] <varsendagger> device?
[03:36] <matthew_w> crimsun; is that image installed with the usplash image, a la breezy boot screen, or is it JUST the usplash source/bins etc. that are installed with the package from apt
[03:36] <bardamu> it's not /dev/hdc ?
[03:36] <Syco54645> varsendagger: /dev/cdroms
[03:36] <bardamu> or /media/cdrom*
[03:36] <crimsun> it's part of the usplash package.
[03:36] <burnhamd> see duckx0r could benifit from one
[03:37] <duckx0r> burnhamd, from what?
[03:37] <dtrostis> I'm trying to install the JRE plugin for Firefox 1.5 unsuccesfully, can someone walk me thru the process?
[03:37] <PeteyPablo> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda gives me an error
[03:37] <matthew_w> crimsun; so, what should I do to activate it then, just the .. uh... dpkg-reconfigure... something?
[03:37] <PeteyPablo> what can i do?
[03:37] <burnhamd> a networking control panel that covers samba and avahi ect..
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> !tell dtrostis about javadebs
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> dtrostis, They make it so easy.
[03:37] <IdleOne> ok right now im in /home how do i get back to my cd Desktop?
[03:38] <crimsun> matthew_w: yes
[03:38] <skon> Idle One: cd /home/username/Desktop
[03:38] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: you really want to erase your disk (sorry I didn't read the rest)
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, You can always cd ~/Desktop too.
[03:38] <PeteyPablo> tahorg it's on another pc yes
[03:38] <IdleOne> ty ty
[03:38] <matthew_w> crimsun; sorry, what is the exact syntax again?
[03:38] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: what's the error ?
[03:38] <da9000> anyone know what this is all about: "kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2"
[03:39] <PeteyPablo> tahorg it says its read only file system
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> I'd like to specify to use the usb-storage driver for a device.  How can I do that, either command line or Device Manager, doesn't matter.
[03:39] <crimsun> matthew_w: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[03:39] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: do you have a /dev/hda ?
[03:39] <PeteyPablo> yes
[03:39] <tahorg> ls -al /dev/hda
[03:40] <alphy> anybody know any good torrent sites?
[03:40] <zezu> ubuntu does use xorg not xfree right ?
[03:40] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, are you using hotplug?
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> zezu, Yes.
[03:40] <tahorg> zezu: right
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Yes, hotplug is running.
[03:40] <zezu> ok, anyone tried these updated ati drivers ?
[03:40] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, all you should have to do is mount the drive
[03:40] <sorush20> what is the main reason that may computer keeps crashing and how do I diagnose.http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6518
[03:40] <gonffen> it'll be something like /dev/sda1
[03:41] <gonffen> or device rather
[03:41] <gonffen> so say if you have an ipod and you want to mount it to /mnt/ipod it'd be something like
[03:41] <garry> skon I looked at some sites, all I got was a bunch of drivel about everything but what you were asking about. I'm stumped.
[03:41] <matthew_w> crimsun; I must have missed something, because in the output I got "Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[03:41] <matthew_w> "
[03:41] <alphy> anyone know any good torrent sites?
[03:41] <gonffen> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/ipod
[03:41] <poser> trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop but when I boot up, the bootsplash looks fine, then when gnome starts up, the whole screen is shifted up and to the right so only a fraction of space is used and not seeing the whole screen
[03:41] <Knowerrors> Anybody running timidity with softsynth for midi?
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Problem is, I don't know what device it is.  sda is my hard disk, and there are no other sd?s.
[03:42] <burnhamd> sorush20 maybe because your running a athlon 63
[03:42] <gonffen> sda is your hard disk?
[03:42] <tahorg> tonyyarusso: dmesg ?
[03:42] <gonffen> your main hard disk is usb?
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Yeah.  ThinkPad.
[03:42] <tahorg> gonffen: sda is scsi disc or sata
[03:42] <tonyyarusso> tahorg, How would I figure it out with that?
[03:42] <sorush20> burnhamd: what do you mean.. ? athlon 64Bit what is wrong with it?
[03:42] <skon> garry: thanks for your help. I'm working with Bastille right now so that should secure at least a good portion of it
[03:42] <burnhamd> you wrote 63
[03:43] <zezu> what should i use to convert an rpm ?
[03:43] <Toma-> zezu: alien
[03:43] <crimsun> matthew_w: don't worry about that
[03:43] <sorush20> burnhamd: I meant 64
[03:43] <garry> skon good luck. Welcome.
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, No idea what the fs type would be either.
[03:43] <gonffen> tahorg, so usb storage devices are recognized as scsi?
[03:43] <PeteyPablo> how can i completely clear a harddrive from an ubuntu live cd?
[03:43] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, is it an mp3 player?
[03:43] <zezu> thx
[03:43] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Correct.  Samsung.
[03:43] <tahorg> gonffen: yes, they use the scsi command layer
[03:43] <sorush20> please have a read and help.
[03:43] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6518
[03:43] <gonffen> PeteyPablo, mount the partition and format
[03:43] <gonffen> tahorg, ah I didn't know
[03:43] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, it'll probablly be fat
[03:44] <YAROX> HOLAS
[03:44] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Okay.  Still not sure what device it would be though.
[03:44] <PeteyPablo> gonffen: how do i do that please
[03:44] <matthew_w> crimsun; so if I reboot now, it will be there, yes?
[03:44] <Toma-> sorush20: have you got libdvdcss compiled for amd64 or 386?
[03:44] <crimsun> matthew_w: yep
[03:44] <matthew_w> crimsun; I'll try it ^_^
[03:45] <PeteyPablo> gonffen: how do i do that please
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, There are some details at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6516 in case that's useful.
[03:45] <IdleOne> whats the command to move a file from /tmp to /Desktop ?
[03:45] <PeteyPablo> how do i clear a hd usinb ubuntu live cd
[03:46] <Toma-> mv filename destination
[03:46] <gonffen> mv /tmp/foo ~/bar
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> gonffen: Also, the last line from dmesg | grep usb is '[4323250.381000]  usb 5-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6'
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, I'm guessing that refers to it.
[03:46] <CaptainMorgan> maybe I missed it.. but I checked man ftp... is there a command to transfer dir's from the remote to the local?
[03:46] <PeteyPablo> gonffen: how do i do that please
[03:46] <CaptainMorgan> i didnt' se eit..
[03:46] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, what's mount say?
[03:46] <tahorg> tonyyarusso: dmesg | grep sd
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Mount what?
[03:47] <ssstormy> CaptainMorgan, I think that might be a gui bonus
[03:47] <garry> I do copy and paste to get entire directories via ftp
[03:47] <ssstormy> lemme look
[03:47] <gonffen> CaptainMorgan, get, but ftp doesn't seem to like directorys :\ try gftp instead
[03:47] <tonyyarusso> tahorg, No output.
[03:47] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, just plain mount
[03:47] <tahorg> tonyyarusso: be sure there is usb-storade and sd_mod loaded
[03:47] <PeteyPablo> somone PLEASE tell me how to format a HD with ubuntu live cd
[03:47] <tahorg> modprobe usb-storage
[03:47] <gonffen> PeteyPablo, google format hd linux
[03:48] <sig> why doesn't ubuntu at installation use the i686 kernel when it is a P4 2.8ghz ?
[03:48] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, or look up fdisk and mkfs.ext2
[03:48] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: fdisk
[03:48] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, you'll be doing it from te command line
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Would you like me to pastebin that?
[03:48] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: ok how do i do that
[03:48] <sig> also at boot the ntp.ubuntulinux.org clock syncronize fails ?
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> sig: I had the same issue, got 686 later.
[03:48] <sig> anyone know how to fix this?
[03:48] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, fdisk the drive (while you're running the disk)
[03:48] <Kyral> sig: because there isn't enough room on the Install CD to put two kernels, so they picked the least common denomenator for x86
[03:48] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: how
[03:48] <ssstormy> fdisk /dev/hda for example
[03:48] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: fdisk creates/deletes partitions
[03:48] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: i want to empty it
[03:49] <ssstormy> yes I understand
[03:49] <Kyral> A Kernel compiled for 386 will work on any x86 machine
[03:49] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: you then have to format those partition
[03:49] <tahorg> s
[03:49] <ssstormy> what are you preparing it for?
[03:49] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, that's a good idea
[03:49] <PeteyPablo> tahorg: i want to leave it blank
[03:49] <PeteyPablo> my friend needs to format for windows xp
[03:49] <slashx1896> hey all
[03:49] <sig> anyone else have the clock syncronizing failed from ntp.ubuntulinux.org ? If so how do you fix this?
[03:49] <zezu> why would synaptic be asking me for the install disk ?
[03:49] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, if he's installing off a windows xp disk you don't need to do anything for him
[03:49] <motorsep> skon: Is there something like FAR manager for Ubuntu? http://farmanager.com/screens.php?l=en
[03:49] <skon> sig: are your network configurations correct?
[03:49] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: hes on ubuntu live
[03:49] <ssstormy> zezu because the package it wants is in there
[03:49] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: whats the fdisk to format
[03:49] <ssstormy> zezu and it's faster than download
[03:49] <zezu> why wouldn't it just download it ?
[03:50] <slashx1896> is there any form of Microsoft Word for linux? so i can make documents and then save them and then load them on another comptuer on word
[03:50] <zezu> ah can i force it to dl ?
[03:50] <JIMSMITH> peteypablo: it should be noted that XP will offer to format the drive during the installation, so using a live cd to format might work, but its just excess work or you
[03:50] <zezu> it will be faster than finding the cd ;)
[03:50] <IdleOne> just insert the Xp cd it will give him the option to format or install a second copy
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> ssstormy,  dammit :)
[03:50] <matthew_w> crimsun; it didn't work.
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Added it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6519
[03:50] <PeteyPablo> JIMSMITH: he just has a OEMN disc and its not working
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> gui it is.
[03:50] <Arpegius> is the rar package available in either the global or universal apt repos?
[03:50] <skon> motorsep: for textmod?
[03:50] <crimsun> matthew_w: have you uninstalled all other usplash packages?
[03:50] <skon> motorsep: I mean, in text mode only?
[03:50] <ssstormy> CaptainMorgan, did you ever just try get?
[03:50] <CaptainMorgan> yes..
[03:50] <Nogimixs> Anyone having trouble connecting to: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26) ?
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> that's what Im using now
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> only works on files
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> not dir's
[03:51] <apokryphos> Arpegius: multiverse, yes.
[03:51] <crimsun> Arpegius: rar
[03:51] <slashx1896> anyone?
[03:51] <motorsep> skon: Well, it works in window mode in XP and it is text window.
[03:51] <JIMSMITH> PeteypablO: ok yeah some of the "recovery cd's" not actual cd's dont format.
[03:51] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, really you don't need to format the harddrive; a winxp installation disk will do it for you
[03:51] <slashx1896> is there a type of word for linux
[03:51] <CaptainMorgan> returns, "foo.htm" is not a regular file
[03:51] <slashx1896> microsoft word*
[03:51] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: fdisk, delete all the partition and create one big with 0xb type flag
[03:51] <Kyral> slashx1896: OpenOffice
[03:51] <primeirocrime> Open Office
[03:51] <PeteyPablo> tahorg: tell me how
[03:51] <primeirocrime> or Abiword
[03:51] <slashx1896> does it come already installed? or do i gotta install it
[03:51] <skon> motorsep: midnight commander :-D
[03:51] <motorsep> skon: But it's really comfortable since I love Norton Commander for DOS :P
[03:51] <ssstormy> tahorg, is there a command to like, mkfs.raw or something?
[03:51] <ssstormy> actually
[03:51] <primeirocrime> in Ubuntu it's pre-installed
[03:52] <slashx1896> kk
[03:52] <slashx1896> thanks
[03:52] <matthew_w> crimsun; yes.
[03:52] <dad_> gcc can't make executabales
[03:52] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso,  when I do  sudo dpkg -i ibm-j2re1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb I get " cannot access archive: No such file or directory "
[03:52] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, if you really want to blank it, do the following: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda (replace hda with te drive's name, if hda isn't it)
[03:52] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: fdisk /dev/hda
[03:52] <matthew_w> crimsun; all it does is go black for a few seconds with a blinking cursor in the top left, and then it just goes as normal.
[03:52] <slashx1896> OpenOffice Writer?
[03:52] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: then 'p' <enter>
[03:52] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: i tried that he gets an error
[03:52] <tahorg> to see all the partitions
[03:52] <crimsun> matthew_w: check the symlinks
[03:52] <crimsun> matthew_w: I have to leave
[03:52] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, You have to be in the directory you saved it to.
[03:52] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, strange.  what error?
[03:53] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: hold on
[03:53] <IdleOne> I am
[03:53] <skon> slashx1896: yes, and it's better than Microsoft Word, just heavy on memory and processor speed
[03:53] <cheatersrealm> can I upgrade an existing 5.04 install to a 5.10 install without a cd?
[03:53] <IdleOne> I moved it to the desktop
[03:53] <PeteyPablo> hes gonna paste it from gaim one sec
[03:53] <dad_> gcc can't make executabales could you help me please
[03:53] <Nogimixs> Anyone having trouble connecting to: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (83.160.7.26) ? happens when I try update
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> cheatersrealm, Yep.  You want it with Synaptic or command line?
[03:53] <skon> cheatersealm: yes
[03:53] <ssstormy> dad_, it most certainly can.  if you don't specify, the ex will be called a.out
[03:54] <cheatersrealm> tonyyarusso: command line please
[03:54] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: dd: opening `dev/null': No such file or directory
[03:54] <dad_> does not have permissions
[03:54] <JIMSMITH> question/new user/ have a efault install of 5.10, on laptop with intel audio- sound is not working. Im familiar with windows driver downloading, but what would the equivelent be in ubuntu? How do I find drivers or configure the os to see and use things it des not see natively (no command line exipirince, but willing to try, dont want to use windows again)
[03:54] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, change that to /dev/null
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> cheatersrealm, Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, replacing all instances of 'hoary' with 'breezy'.
[03:54] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, note the first forward slash
[03:54] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: change what?
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> cheatersrealm, sudo apt-get update
[03:54] <tahorg> PeteyPablo: /dev/null not dev/null
[03:54] <cheatersrealm> thanks tonyyarusso
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> cheatersrealm, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:54] <PeteyPablo> thats the error he gets
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> cheatersrealm, And then you're done.
[03:54] <primeirocrime> I know this might be esoteric but... as anyone had any success with a firewire audio card? like edirol FA 101 or FA 66
[03:54] <Arpegius> do i need to go into the multiverse to get the rar archiver?
[03:55] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, which means he's inputting dev/null not /dev/null
[03:55] <ssstormy> he's giving it the wrong filename
[03:55] <skon> motorsep: check it out yet?
[03:55] <PeteyPablo> sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda  he gets this error dd: opening `dev/null': No such file or directory
[03:55] <matthew_w> crimsun; what is a symlink?
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, ping.
[03:55] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: what should he do?
[03:55] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, pong
[03:55] <tahorg> cheatersrealm: it's about 600MB of package (was more than 1GB for me)
[03:55] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, not really sure :(
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Any ideas that I might be able to try though?
[03:55] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, did you try /dev/sdb1?
[03:55] <cheatersrealm> that's fine.. I have a 5.04 install disk for ppc but not a 5.10 one :)
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, There is no such device.  sda is all I've got.
[03:56] <ssstormy> have him do this: ls /dev/null
[03:56] <tahorg> cheatersrealm: and a good adsl line I hope :)
[03:56] <dad_> gcc does not have permissions to make a file  when i try to install a program, can you help
[03:56] <gonffen> tonyyarusso, I don't know then sorry
[03:56] <crimsun> matthew_w: ls -l /usr/lib/usplash
[03:56] <cheatersrealm> tahorg: university line :) and the uni is shut down right now
[03:56] <crimsun> matthew_w: make sure the symlinks are valid.
[03:56] <cheatersrealm> probably about a 10mbit line
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> gonffen, Merph.  Okay.
[03:56] <gonffen> dad_, did you compile as root?
[03:56] <poser> when the boosplash begins, what configuration does it use? like xorg?
[03:56] <poser> or framebuffer?
[03:56] <matthew_w> crimsun; it output some stuff, but it doesn't make sense to me x-x
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> So when you apt-get install a program, where does it go on the filesystem?
[03:57] <dad_> I did with sudo
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> And can you change that?
[03:57] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: */dev/null
[03:57] <dad_> I did with sudo and it still did not work
[03:58] <skon> tonyarruso: probably /usr/bin/progname
[03:58] <matthew_w> crimsun; what -should- it say, ... approximately.
[03:58] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, he types ls /dev/null and gets */dev/null  !?!?!
[03:58] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: yea
[03:58] <tom__> anyone here an expert at getting additional screen resolutions working?
[03:58] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, ok something is really weird with that system of his
[03:58] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: he is on ubuntu live cd
[03:58] <cheatersrealm> tom__: you could edit xorg.conf manually
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> skon: What about all of the other parts that go with a program?  configurations, libraries, etc?
[03:59] <tom__> I've tried editing the xorg.conf to add a 1280x1024 for my LCD monitor, but no such luck.
[03:59] <JIMSMITH> on laptop with intel audio- sound is not working. Im familiar with windows driver downloading, but what would the equivelent be in ubuntu? what would be my basic steps to make it work?
[03:59] <crimsun> matthew_w: the symlink for /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so should point to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so, the latter which should exist, obviously
[03:59] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, does he have any boot floppies?  even the most basic ones?
[03:59] <zezu> anyone know of a way of forcing synaptic to download all packages ?
[03:59] <IdleOne> !javadebs
[03:59] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:59] <skon> tonyyarusso: configurations probably go in /home/yourName/.programname
[03:59] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: no, and it was /dev/null not */dev/null
[03:59] <zezu> i really dont feel like downloading the install cd and burning it again
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> I can see this stupid mp3 player in the Device Manager, but don't know how to mount it!
[03:59] <ssstormy> zezu, remove the cd from the sources list
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> skon: Ah.
[03:59] <ssstormy> ok try this
[03:59] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: what does he do
[03:59] <skon> tonyyarusso: libraries.... I'm guessing /usr/bin/lib
[03:59] <ssstormy> cd /dev
[03:59] <burnhamd> tom_  there is a way to run the xorg wizard or whatever it is to find all screen resolutions
[03:59] <burnhamd> look on ubuntu forums
[04:00] <skon> tonyyarusso: libraries.... actually /usr/lib
[04:00] <ssstormy> dd if=null of=hda
[04:00] <zezu> ahuman01, its in the list with the servers
[04:00] <zezu> i looked all over for options
[04:00] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: sudo ?
[04:00] <ssstormy> yeah
[04:00] <zezu> err wtf, damn auto complete
[04:00] <ssstormy> unless he's logged in as root
[04:00] <tom__> burnhamd: Yeah I've run the reconfigure tool but that doesn't even place the 1280x124 in the conf file
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> skon: Right.
[04:00] <tom__> And I know the card (a not-too-old nvidia) can handle the resolution
[04:00] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: dd: opening `null': No such file or directory
[04:00] <D1> what happens when you put it in manually?
[04:00] <burnhamd> what are you running tom
[04:00] <matthew_w> crimsun:  I get usplash.artwork.so (in red) -- >  /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[04:01] <skon> Someone know how to close ports using iptables?
[04:01] <zezu> i see alien installs rpm, should i just use rpm to install or convert with alien?  will it make a huge difference ?
[04:01] <_alan> what does  lspci -v |grep -i audio do? for me it just goes to the next line .. no error  does not list my sound car
[04:01] <zezu> i'm installing bogus ati drivers ;)
[04:01] <_alan> ...card
[04:01] <burnhamd> yes have you tried putting it in manually
[04:01] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, file /dev/null
[04:01] <crimsun> matthew_w: it should be cyan. Red indicates a dangling symlink.
[04:01] <D1> and what happens?
[04:01] <D1> it should work in theory.
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, Where are those color options defined?
[04:01] <matthew_w> crimsun; ok, well, what should it point to?
[04:02] <tom__> burnhamd: It's an nvidia card on an lcd monitor, editing the xorg.conf makes no difference.
[04:02] <matthew_w> let me try purging once more
[04:02] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: bash's conffiles.
[04:02] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: /dev/null: character special (1/3)
[04:02] <D1> burnhamd: what is your DefaultDepth line read?
[04:02] <crimsun> matthew_w: I told you above#
[04:02] <burnhamd> d1 im not the one with the problem
[04:02] <tom__> burnhamd: I even tried adding a modeline, but that turned out badly.
[04:02] <ssstormy> oh ok try this
[04:02] <D1> er
[04:02] <crimsun> matthew_w: sorry, but I have to go now. I'll be back in a few hours.
[04:02] <D1> sorry then
[04:02] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, have him cd /dev
[04:02] <D1> whoever it is...
[04:02] <garry> You might have to hand-specifiy the horizontal and vertical refresh rates for the lcd monitor in xorg.conf
[04:02] <ssstormy> then dd if=nu
[04:02] <ssstormy> but
[04:03] <ssstormy> don't hit eneter
[04:03] <burnhamd> tom the only thing that worked for me was xorg reconfigure
[04:03] <burnhamd> did you restart  the x server after that
[04:03] <matthew_w> I'm going to remove the contents of /etc/alternatives/ - is this ok?
[04:03] <matthew_w> (anyone)
[04:03] <tom__> oh yeah I restarted several times
[04:03] <ssstormy> tap tab a few times after finishing dd if=nu  BEFORE hitting enter
[04:03] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: ok
[04:03] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: 742 possibilities?
[04:03] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: yes or no
[04:03] <ssstormy> no
[04:03] <tom__> garry: damn those refresh reates. I wonder if I can find them.
[04:04] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: ok
[04:04] <ssstormy> do that again
[04:04] <burnhamd> reconfigure lets you specify them also
[04:04] <ssstormy> and write dd if=nul
[04:04] <ssstormy> and then tab
[04:04] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: ok
[04:04] <tom__> garry: do you think having incorrect refresh rates would make a resolution not be presented in the "screen resolutions" preference dialog?
[04:04] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: keeps going to 742 possibilities
[04:04] <ssstormy> hit yes this time
[04:05] <ssstormy> let's see what those options look like
[04:05] <garry> tom__ I know what you mean, took me forever to find them on the manufacturer website for my samsung monitor and I clicked the link and it gave me the rates for the wrong monitir. Yes, it could make them not present.
[04:05] <PeteyPablo> ok
[04:05] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, I opened a dialog box, let's talk in there
[04:05] <garry> tom__ had I not noticed the goof up on the link, I'd have had a toasty monitor.
[04:05] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: ok
[04:05] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso,  may i msg you?
[04:05] <tom__> garry: hmm, ok. I guess I'll try to track those down.
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, Sure.
[04:06] <tronix> PeteyPabl: if he does: # ls -l /dev/null
[04:06] <tronix> does it print out something liek this:
[04:06] <IdleOne> Selecting previously deselected package ibm-j2re1.5.
[04:06] <IdleOne> (Reading database ... 59210 files and directories currently installed.)
[04:06] <IdleOne> Unpacking ibm-j2re1.5 (from ibm-j2re1.5_1.5.0_powerpc.deb) ...
[04:06] <IdleOne> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ibm-j2re1.5:
[04:06] <IdleOne>  ibm-j2re1.5 depends on libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0); however:
[04:06] <tronix> crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 2006-01-03 14:47 /dev/null
[04:06] <IdleOne>   Package libglib1.2 is not installed.
[04:06] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: i dont see it
[04:06] <garry> tom__ good luck to ye.
[04:06] <IdleOne>  ibm-j2re1.5 depends on libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4); however:
[04:06] <IdleOne>   Package libgtk1.2 is not installed.
[04:06] <tom__> thanks!
[04:06] <IdleOne>  ibm-j2re1.5 depends on libstdc++5 (>= 1:3.3.4-1); however:
[04:06] <IdleOne>   Package libstdc++5 is not installed.
[04:06] <IdleOne> dpkg: error processing ibm-j2re1.5 (--install):
[04:06] <IdleOne>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:06] <IdleOne> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:06] <tronix> (doesn't matter what date/time it says, but it's important it has crw-rw-rw and '1, 3' in there
[04:06] <IdleOne>  ibm-j2re1.5
[04:06] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, try opening one yourself to talk to me, and type
[04:06] <PeteyPablo> done
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, Stop pasting or you'll get yourself banned.
[04:07] <matthew_w> Can anyone else please help me with getting this to work
[04:07] <IdleOne> sorry
[04:07] <matthew_w> usplash
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, You can do that in a pm, but not the channel.  Send a pm, let me respond so another tab opens for you, then put it in there.
[04:07] <IdleOne> ok
[04:07] <tronix> matthew_w: what was the url you were looking at? maybe I can take a quick attempt
[04:07] <jon_> exit
[04:08] <jon_> quit
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, (btw, you have to be registered to pm)
[04:08] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: ?
[04:08] <IdleOne> didnt mean to paste that in channel
[04:08] <IdleOne> lol
[04:08] <ssstormy> you can't see what I'm saying
[04:08] <x86-64> hi, I had a 10GB partition setup on an external USB drive... I connected the drive to a 15" mac powerbook and booted off the live Ubuntu 5.10 DVD... I changed the 10GB partition into a 8MB Apple partition map, 5 GB ext3 primary, then a 700MB swap and 5GB ext3... after installing ubuntu to the first 5GB ext3, I couldn't install yaboot... is there a way to do this for the drive?  (i have OS X 10.4 on the internal drive and would rather not mod
[04:08] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, I can read your messages though, so paste the output you get in there.  otherwise, you'll get booted frolm the channel - flood
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, I pasted an entire file, I think my xorg.conf, once, trying to pm it and messing up.  That was fun...
[04:09] <tronix> :)
[04:10] <PeteyPablo> ok pasted
[04:10] <matthew_w> tronix; well, actually now I'm doing some kind of symbolic link, thing.
[04:10] <matthew_w> tronix; it's installed, it comes with a default, that's the one I want to use, it just.. isn't working... for some reason
[04:10] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, there is something wrong here, but I don't know what so let's do it a different way
[04:10] <ssstormy> fdisk /dev/hda
[04:11] <ssstormy> then have him type "m" and hit enter
[04:11] <tronix> matthew_w: if you've been following steps from a particular URL, I can try to reproduce
[04:11] <zezu> i've just installed the ati drivers converted rpm to debian package and installed w/ dpkg,  how can i make sure that it uses this driver?
[04:11] <ssstormy> it will show the commands
[04:11] <ssstormy> delete all the partitinos
[04:11] <zezu> i need some method of debugging this madness ;|
[04:11] <matthew_w> tronix; alright but..
[04:11] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: ok how do you delete all partitions
[04:11] <ssstormy> you can use "p" (print) to see how many
[04:12] <matthew_w> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28usplash%29
[04:12] <ssstormy> "d" to delete one
[04:12] <matthew_w> tronix; keep in mind that the artwork I want to use is the default (/usr/local/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so)
[04:12] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: thats above his skills
[04:12] <tronix> matthew_w: that's fine. I'll take a stab at it
[04:12] <tom__> garry: oh hell yes, it works now. Refresh rates baby!
[04:12] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, so if ti's really simple how about like this
[04:12] <ssstormy> d
[04:13] <ssstormy> and at the next prompt
[04:13] <ssstormy> 1
[04:13] <PeteyPablo> sstormy
[04:13] <garry> tom__ Congrats!
[04:13] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: what does he do in what order
[04:13] <matthew_w> tronix; give'r by.
[04:13] <ssstormy> and hit enter at each following prompt until he gets back to the normal one that says "m for help"
[04:13] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: he is their
[04:13] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: what does he do?
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> zezu: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep ati or cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep fglrx will tell you which it's using, and you can edit that file if it's wrong.
[04:13] <tom__> garry: no more 1024x768. I love ubuntu/debian. Thanks again!
[04:13] <tom__> lates
[04:14] <ssstormy> then
[04:14] <ssstormy> d
[04:14] <ssstormy> and at next prompt
[04:14] <ssstormy> have him type "2" and do enters just like before.  Repeat this cycle for #'s 1-4
[04:14] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: he needs to define a partition
[04:14] <zezu> well i have mult installs of fglrx installed likely
[04:14] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[04:14] <_alan> can anyone help me with a sound problem
[04:14] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: says no partition defined
[04:14] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, yeah, that's just #'s 1-4
[04:14] <ITSa341> Kr0ntab  Hi
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> zezu: Hrm, that could complicate matters.  Not sure.
[04:15] <burnhamd> alan whats the problem
[04:15] <Kr0ntab> hey ITSa341
[04:15] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: this isnt gonna work for him
[04:15] <ssstormy> hmm
[04:16] <PeteyPablo> ssstormy: can he do this with gparted?
[04:16] <matthew_w> tronix; gonna try something, brb.
[04:16] <ssstormy> PeteyPablo, yeah that would probably be easier, if it's installed
[04:16] <PeteyPablo> it has it
[04:16] <PeteyPablo> how does he do it on gparted
[04:16] <zezu> brb reboot
[04:17] <ssstormy> so start gparted
[04:17] <PeteyPablo> he is their
[04:17] <ssstormy> you know what, I'm really spamming this channel.  Can you give me your SN in the message window?
[04:17] <PeteyPablo> FearTheTrain
[04:17] <PeteyPablo> @ aim
[04:18] <sorush20> hi guys
[04:18] <burnhamd> everyone spam peteypablo on his aim account now
[04:18] <tronix> matthew_w: bad news... worked for me out of the box. ;)
[04:18] <tronix> matthew_w: all I did was: # apt-get install libbogl-dev usplash
[04:18] <tronix> matthew_w: then # dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) and rebooted
[04:19] <sorush20> I need to find out if I were to get rid of all the data on my root partition and keep the data on my home partition .. when I install the root partitions with a different verions of ubuntu will the home partition be written over resulting in the loss of my program configurations?
[04:19] <egytrack> hello , i don't know why google website dosn't work in firefox , i'm using router and switch for the internet . network
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> What does this error mean for a locate?: warning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory
[04:19] <tronix> egytrack: other websites works ok?
[04:19] <skon> egytrack: that's very vague. open up a terminal and try ping google.com and see what happens
[04:19] <tronix> tonyyarus: you haven't yet run /etc/cron.daily/find at least once
[04:19] <tronix> (to generate the locate db)
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> tronix, Ah.  Will that need sudo or is regular fine?
[04:20] <tronix> you can either let it run during daily cron job processing or run it once by hand
[04:20] <matthew_w> tronix; nope.
[04:20] <sorush20> guys when you search in the ubuntu forum and you view the first result then click on the next thread  you don't go to the next thread in the search result instead you go to the next thread somewhere else any help?
[04:20] <tronix> tonyyarus: gonna need sudo, I think
[04:20] <egytrack> skon , yes i can ping google ..
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> tronix, 'k, thanks.
[04:20] <skon> egytracks: and all other sites work?
[04:20] <Arpegius> anyone familiar w/ alien? i thought i was installing an rpm but apparently it just made a deb file of it...?
[04:21] <Madpilot> sorush20: It's been a while since I upgraded to Breezy, but I think the dist-upgrade stuff asks a lot of questions about config files & replacing/keeping them
[04:21] <egytrack> tronix , yes other website works
[04:21] <skon> Argpegius: alien converts rpm to deb, that's what you want under Ubuntu/ Debian
[04:21] <mikearthur> Arpegius: thats what it does
[04:21] <tronix> matthew_w: hmm... usplash only worked for boot-up but switched back to a text mode screen instead of keeping a transparent bg... hmm.
[04:21] <visik7> fu**ing flash plugin
[04:21] <skon> egytrack: perhaps a DNS server problem....might want to double check that
[04:21] <visik7> I hate it!!!
[04:21] <tronix> egytrack: do you use PPP over Ethernet? and have a firewall in between?
[04:21] <tronix> (or use VPNs)
[04:21] <zezu> why do i bother
[04:21] <matthew_w> tronix; explain that a little further?
[04:21] <sorush20> Madpilot: how do I upgrade from 386 to amd64?
[04:21] <Arpegius> mikearthur, so then i install the deb?
[04:22] <tronix> matthew_w: well, for me, it brings this awesome looking screen but only for duration of the boot. when boot is done, it switches to a text mode login for tty1/tty2/etc
[04:22] <mikearthur> Arpegius: yeh
[04:22] <Madpilot> sorush20: no idea, I just run 32bit here
[04:22] <mikearthur> dpkg -i whatever
[04:22] <burnhamd> sorush just install it over again
[04:22] <tronix> matthew_w: on Gentoo, with gensplash, it stays in framebuffer mode even post-boot, on the console
[04:22] <burnhamd> except with 64bit
[04:23] <egytrack> tronix : i have router and switch i use switch for internet , router may open ports and port forward for other app
[04:23] <Arpegius> mikearthur, sweet thnx
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> Would someone be willing to look over my gdm script to try to figure out why it is breaking console switching for me?  If I stop gdm and startx from a terminal I can switch again.
[04:23] <tronix> egytrack: does your ISP require you to configure router for PPPoE?
[04:23] <zezu> what is the file that has all the system bootup messages in it ?
[04:23] <tronix> i.e. you have to give username/password to login to the ISP to bring up connection?
[04:23] <egytrack> skon : what do u mean ?
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> tronix, Now we got bash: /etc/cron.daily/find: No such file or directory
[04:23] <tronix> tonyyarus: maybe I'm misremembering.. let me check paths real quick. I know I ran something like that last night. brb
[04:23] <zezu> always has the errors for my ati drivers in it
[04:24] <matthew_w> tronix; oh I see, mine goes into X after that, so that would be fine, if I could get it to run.
[04:24] <matthew_w> tronix; what did you do exactly?
[04:24] <viator> anyone know how to save everything on a website ?
[04:24] <skon> egytrack: if your DNS server is wrong, that means many of the domian names will fail, but others will work at random, you might want to make sure you've selected the correct one
[04:24] <Klementas> zezu: dmesg ?
[04:24] <garry> you should be able to see your messages by doing dmesg | more
[04:24] <zezu> Klementas, no its not dmesg
[04:24] <Klementas> zezu: otherwise, the log files are in /var/log
[04:24] <matthew_w> tronix; I just apt-get usplash'd after purging it.
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> tronix, Maybe /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate?
[04:24] <viator> see if i click save page as
[04:24] <zezu> ah yes i think thats it
[04:24] <Klementas> zezu: /var/log/messages
[04:24] <Kindred> I need help reading my cd drive in a chroot .. I believe I have the fstab edited correctly but it shows up blank, if anyone knows about this stuff that would be great :|
[04:24] <viator> it only saves the first page
[04:24] <viator> and not all the other ones etc
[04:24] <egytrack> tronix : no it's PPPoA
[04:25] <viator> heres what the gist is
[04:25] <ITSa341> Kr0ntab   check your IMs
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> tronix, Or /sbin/findfs?
[04:25] <tronix> tonyyarus: do you have 'findutils' installed?
[04:25] <viator> my wife has one of those free web pages she saved alot of artwork pics on it
[04:25] <viator> and she doesnt remember the password etc
[04:25] <viator> i know she can just goto each pic and choose save as
[04:25] <tronix> egytrack: ahhh! that makes sense. you might have either a MTU problem or firewall filtering too much ICMP
[04:25] <viator> but thatll take a long time
[04:26] <tronix> egytrack: one workaround is to lower the MTU size by 20
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> tronix, I do, not sure if the person I'm helping does.  Will check.
[04:26] <tronix> egytrack: for eth0
[04:26] <matthew_w> tronix; did you just install the package and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) ?
[04:26] <viator> so any ideas?
[04:26] <tronix> matthew_w: yep that's exactly all I did.
[04:26] <viator> howto get all the pics at once
[04:26] <matthew_w> tronix; I'll try that now that I've purged it
[04:26] <tronix> matthew_w: installed both libbogl-dev and usplash
[04:27] <matthew_w> I think I have libbogl-dev
[04:27] <matthew_w> I installed it earlier
[04:27] <matthew_w> yep.
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> tronix, With it installed I don't have just find in that directory either; find.notslocate
[04:27] <Arpegius> how can i find out where a .deb put the files it installed?
[04:27] <matthew_w> Alright, I'll reboot and see...
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> tronix, Yep, they have it.
[04:27] <matthew_w> Hold it..
[04:27] <Madpilot> Arpegius: what was the app you installed?
[04:27] <dabaR__> Arpegius: dpkg -L blah.deb
[04:27] <zezu> ./modules/radeon_drv.o is not the ati driver is it ?
[04:27] <garry> viator, I would say go to the site, there should be under login or support, an option like "Forgot Password" which should cause her password to be emailed to her. Most sites have provision for that.
[04:27] <matthew_w> tronix; for some reason, I have another broken symbolic link.. when I do ls -l /usr/lib/usplash
[04:27] <matthew_w> tronix; do you?
[04:28] <zezu> vendor says X.Org foundation
[04:28] <tronix> tonyyarus: here's what I show (real short paste):
[04:28] <tronix> root@ubuntu:~# dpkg -L findutils|grep cron.daily
[04:28] <tronix> /etc/cron.daily
[04:28] <tronix> /etc/cron.daily/find
[04:28] <tronix> root@ubuntu:~# dpkg -l findutils|grep findutils
[04:28] <tronix> ii  findutils      4.2.22-2       utilities for finding files--find, xargs, and locate
[04:28] <Arpegius> Madpilot, maya :-P
[04:28] <tronix> matthew_w: let me check
[04:28] <Madpilot> Arpegius: try just typing "maya" at a prompt
[04:28] <Arpegius> ...tried that first...
[04:28] <egytrack> skon : i use vmware , so it must take DNS from it.
[04:29] <egytrack> skon : i try to add right DNS .  and router ip
[04:29] <skon> egytrack: er..okay
[04:29] <Arpegius> it doesn't seem to be installing it at all. i had to convert the maya rpms to debs and when i run the deb install it says the following:
[04:29] <egytrack> skon : still dosn't work ..
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> tronix, I have that output for the first one, plus diverted by slocate to: /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate
[04:29] <skon> egytrack: sorry, I'm not sure....could be something about how you are using vmware?
[04:30] <tronix> tonyyarus: same version?
[04:30] <egytrack> tronix : i don't understand , you mean change MTU ?
[04:30] <tonyyarusso> tronix, Yeah.
[04:30] <tronix> egytrack: my boss had that same problem with ebay due to technical reasons with his networking setup
[04:30] <matthew_w> tronix; ls -l /usr/lib/usplash, tell me the output, see if it matches.
[04:30] <tronix> egytrack: had to lower MTU size from 1500 to 1480 to make all websites work
[04:31] <egytrack> tronix : in router config ?
[04:31] <tronix> egytrack: i'm not sure where to set MTU size in ubuntu. I've used it only 14 hours so far. :)
[04:31] <tronix> but I would guess maybe in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:31] <tronix> matthew_w: I show this:
[04:31] <tronix> root@ubuntu:~# ls -l /usr/lib/usplash
[04:31] <tronix> total 30
[04:31] <tronix> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root    36 2006-01-03 17:16 usplash-artwork.so -> /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[04:31] <tronix> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 29304 2005-10-07 16:39 usplash-default.so
[04:32] <matthew_w> tronix; is the first one red?
[04:32] <tronix> and /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so points to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so
[04:32] <egytrack> tronix : i have router can i set it on router or on system ?
[04:32] <matthew_w> tronix; that would be the problem, then
[04:32] <egytrack> tronix : also yahoo website dosn't work
[04:32] <matthew_w> tronix, let me just fix that -  how do I change where a symbolic link points
[04:32] <rapid_burn> i was wondering if i could get some help
[04:32] <tronix> matthew_w: can use 'rm <symlink> ; ln -s ...' or 'ln -sf ...' to do it in one step
[04:33] <rapid_burn> does anyone use ubuntu for pro audio?
[04:33] <tronix> egytrack: hmm... if you can set MTU on the router, that's best. but if not, can set on system.
[04:34] <tronix> tonyyarus: hmm. that is a weird one.
[04:34] <matthew_w> tronix; okay, and /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so doesn't exist, how can I create it, and make it point to /usr/lib/usplash-default.so
[04:34] <tronix> matthew_w: let me see what package provides that stuff. one sec
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> tronix, It looks like /etc/cron.daily/slocate is doing on my system what we hope to do, so that must be it...
[04:35] <rapid_burn> is adrour any? good?
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> What do the load average numbers in uptime mean?
[04:35] <tronix> tonyyarus: good deal.
[04:36] <tronix> matthew_w: you've done the dpkg-reconfigure? that might be what provides the artwork symlinks
[04:36] <mojombo> hey, I have a x windows app I downloaded (not through add applications) and I'd like to have it appear in the applications menu dropdown. Any ideas on how to do that?
[04:36] <egytrack> I wonder why i can ping yahoo and google and dosn't show in browser !!!!
[04:37] <egytrack> strange !
[04:37] <matthew_w> tronix; actually, I went to /etc/alternatives and did    ln -s /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so
[04:37] <tronix> egytrack: not really. if you filter out icmp messages relating to path mtu discovery, you'll unintentionally blackhole sites involving larger packets
[04:37] <matthew_w> tronix; so now I have in /usr/lib/usplash -- a symbolic link pointing to /etc/alternatives/usplash-artwork.so which is pointing to /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so
[04:38] <tronix> matthew_w: that'd work, too.
[04:38] <matthew_w> tronix; delightfully pointless, but I think it will work.
[04:38] <tronix> :)
[04:38] <matthew_w> tronix; lemme give'r a try
[04:38] <tronix> not sure why this arrangement, either, myself.
[04:38] <bodaciousbrian> whats the package that contains windows codecs, for video?
[04:38] <bodaciousbrian> w32codecs is what it was i think... but it doesnt exist now =/
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousbrian, w32codecs
[04:39] <bodaciousbrian> why cant i see it with updated repositories?
[04:39] <egytrack> PING google.com (72.14.207.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:39] <egytrack> 64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=248 ms
[04:39] <bodaciousbrian> ive added the other repositories like multiverse and such also
[04:39] <tronix> egytrack: the site is reachable, dns is working, but you appear to be dropping large packets to the websites with problems
[04:39] <tronix> egytrack: you'll have to adjust your icmp filtering or adjust your MTU to fix
[04:39] <Harimwakairi> Sorry to butt in, but is there a linux shell command to do what ipconfig does in windows?
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousbrian, It doesn't fit in with the Ubuntu policy of what it will offer, I get mine from PLF repos.
[04:40] <tronix> Harimwaka: ifconfig
[04:40] <tronix> (well, for IP addressing... it won't show other info like DNS, etc)
[04:40] <Harimwakairi> thx
[04:40] <bodaciousbrian> tonyyarusso, where do i find thoes repos?
[04:40] <mrtrosen> !w32codecs
[04:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> !tell bodaciousbrian about plf
[04:40] <egytrack> how to adjust your icmp filtering or adjust your MTU to fix ?
[04:41] <B-166_ER-X> i tried to install amsn 0.95 by compiling it... i thought it was okay..but :  it only runs when i run it in console, and with sudo , any help ?
[04:41] <tronix> egytrack: do you do any filtering? like firewall stuff?
[04:41] <egytrack> yes router
[04:41] <egytrack> firewall - nat
[04:41] <tronix> egytrack: okay. make sure it permits ICMP traffic through
[04:41] <bodaciousbrian> tonyyarusso, thank you
[04:42] <tronix> egytrack: if that does not help, see if you can set the MTU size lower (default is 1500) to 1480 on your router
[04:42] <tronix> egytrack: if you don't find an option on the router, set it lower on your Linux system instead
[04:42] <B-166_ER-X> pleae?
[04:43] <titanium_platypu> I'm trying to compile a source package that needs SDL
[04:43] <titanium_platypu> I can't find a .deb package for that?
[04:43] <titanium_platypu> .*
[04:43] <titanium_platypu> what must I do?
[04:43] <egytrack> tronix : is it port forwarding option ?
[04:43] <egytrack> tronix : in router ?
[04:43] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, 'apt-cache search sdl' and then 'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[04:44] <tronix> egytrack: look at all router options until you find something that talks about MTU
[04:44] <matthew_w> tronix; it worked.  Rockin'.
[04:44] <tronix> egytrack: if you can't find it anywhere on router, then edit /etc/network/interfaces on your Ubuntu machine
[04:44] <tronix> matthew_w: splendid!
[04:44] <SEJeff> titanium_platypu, maybe 'apt-cache search sdl | less' will be better
[04:44] <tronix> egytrack and modify eth0 to add one line that says:
[04:44] <tronix>        mtu 1480
[04:45] <B-166_ER-X> i tried to install amsn 0.95 by compiling it... i thought it was okay..but :  it only runs when i run it in console, and with sudo , any help ? i am really idea less on this.
[04:45] <titanium_platypu> brb
[04:46] <bodaciousbrian> tonyyarusso, the plf doesnt work for 64 bit systems does it?
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, What happens if you run it with sudo from gnome-terminal (or emulator of choice)?
[04:47] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  gnome-terminal ?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousbrian, No, not that one anyway.
[04:47] <bodaciousbrian> tonyyarusso, darn, that sounded really cool
[04:47] <matthew_w> tronix; now I don't suppose you know anything about installing DirectX/Windoze games on Ubuntu?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Terminal emulator, in Applications > Accessories > Terminal.
[04:47] <tronix> matthew_w: Cedega. :)
[04:47] <B-166_ER-X> yeap
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousbrian, You could contribute 64 versions for them.
[04:48] <B-166_ER-X> running it like this for 'now' testing purpose
[04:48] <tronix> matthew_w: costs money but is by far the best way to do it.
[04:48] <matthew_w> tronix; w/out paying a metric arseload?
[04:48] <tronix> matthew_w: otherwise, it can be a real headache.
[04:48] <matthew_w> tronix; oh, I had a question, then...
[04:48] <B-166_ER-X> i have to 'sudo amsn'
[04:48] <B-166_ER-X> then it works
[04:48] <bodaciousbrian> tonyyarusso, they do have something about amd64 on here, ill see what it says
[04:48] <B-166_ER-X> the only way i managed..
[04:48] <matthew_w> tronix; if I just pay for 1 months subscription, and then never subscribe again, do I still own the prog, or will it stop working X_X ?
[04:48] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso:  and tronix :   thank you both for all your help
[04:48] <tronix> matthew_w: own it, I believe. just won't get updates
[04:48] <matthew_w> tronix; boo hoo ;)
[04:49] <egytrack> tronix : in router ?
[04:49] <egytrack> tronix : could not find the MTU , in file interfaces !
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> Uh, where DO you get  Windows codecs for 64 bit?
[04:50] <matthew_w> tronix; on a scale of 1-10, how sure are you that if I subscribe for only one month I'll be able to play ad infinitum with games I already own?
[04:50] <sorush20> amd 64 running on kernel 386? should I run it on k7?
[04:50] <tronix> egytrack: on Ubuntu system, you have to modify file 'interface's to add mtu 1480 line for eth0
[04:50] <sorush20> how do I find out what the status of my cpu is right now?
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousbrian, You might be able to compile from source from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412.orig.tar.gz
[04:50] <tronix> matthew_w: I think I'd say odds are pretty good?
[04:50] <mazdaracer> evening from seatte! And happy New Year to all!
[04:51] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:51] <tronix> matthew_w: you can check to see what the supported games are before forking over money, I think.
[04:51] <matthew_w> tronix; I'm counting on you here ;)  if it fudges out on me after a month I'll be peeved.  lol.
[04:51] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  any idea ?
[04:51] <tronix> matthew_w: :-) double check cedega's website
[04:51] <matthew_w> tronix; apparently it runs most, just some better than others.
[04:51] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:51] <tronix> matthew_w: aye
[04:51] <egytrack> tronix : is this means i have to add line "mtu 1480"
[04:51] <matthew_w> tronix; I've checked, but they're depressingly vague
[04:51] <tronix> egytrack: yes
[04:51] <egytrack> auto eth0
[04:51] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:51] <phnxgk> Howdy ho everyone
[04:52] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:52] <tronix> egytrack: do you have iface eth0 somewhere?
[04:52] <egytrack> tronix : auto eth0 then i add line "mtu 1480"
[04:52] <B-166_ER-X> is there a way to make an app only running in sudo... not only running in sudo ?
[04:52] <mazdaracer> Has anyone setup a unibrain with firewire for a webcam? I got a card and cam, but have no success yet. Make me a beginner.
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Find the executable for amsn and sudo chmod a+x /path/to/amsn
[04:52] <tronix> egytrack: no, you should have another eth0 line. something like iface eth0 ?
[04:52] <phnxgk> Ok...im here to ask a few questions about my installation of Breezy.  ANybody wana give me a hand?
[04:52] <tronix> phnxgk: give it a try. if people can answer, they will. :)
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <sacawen> anyone here have ever build LFS 6.1 by ubuntu 5.10 successfully
[04:53] <phnxgk> cool thanks tronis
[04:53] <egytrack> sacawen !!! hey ..
[04:53] <sacawen> Nobody here can answer my question
[04:53] <tronix> sacawen: i haven't tried. i think you've got a stuck keyboard
[04:53] <binarydigit> haha
[04:54] <sacawen> nobody?
[04:54] <binarydigit> sacawen: yea i am sure everyone will help you after you flooded the channel
[04:54] <sacawen> I would like to know the answer
[04:54] <IdleOne> no
[04:54] <phnxgk> ok wheni first installed Breezy, during the second part of the installation when its installing packages, it will stop at about 83% and say that some pagages wernt installed
[04:54] <brlancer> sacawen: there is a guy who knows your answer, but since you refuse to wait 5 minutes, he's still in the john
[04:54] <phnxgk> then is comenses to boot ubuntu and i get in.
[04:54] <brlancer> sacawen: perhaps you can make an appointment next time?
[04:54] <B-166_ER-X> !nopaste
[04:54] <ubotu> B-166_ER-X: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:55] <B-166_ER-X> !paste
[04:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:55] <sagarp> how can i copy a cd image to a cd...somethin glike, cp image.iso /dev/cdrom0, or cat image.iso > /dev/cdrom0...would those work?
[04:55] <phnxgk> it gives me like 42 ubdates to down load and install and i do that but two of them wont install.
[04:55] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6520
[04:55] <tronix> sagarp: one way: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cdimage.iso then use cdrecord to burn cdimage.iso to a blank CD
[04:55] <phnxgk> also apps close randomly on me.  Mostly Firefox.
[04:56] <tronix> sagarp: or use readcd instead of dd. much faster and more reliable/accurate, I heard.
[04:56] <mazdaracer> phnxgk: how are you partintioning the disk? I had to re-partition mine after I couldn' load the latest kernel.
[04:56] <brlancer> how can I get a kernel .config file for the stock Ubuntu builds? I'm trying to build a driver module and it's looking for one
[04:56] <tronix> brlancer: look at /boot
[04:56] <titanium_platypu> back
[04:56] <sorush20> guys dvd play freezes computer all the time everytime http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6518 help
[04:56] <matthew_w> tronix; isn't there some way to umm .. *cough cough cough hack spew*  -- not -- pay for this?
[04:56] <edgarin> Hey
[04:56] <edgarin> hello to all
[04:56] <phnxgk> i have a 40 gig hard drive.  30 gigs are for windows and i had 10 non partitioned gigs
[04:56] <matthew_w> lol
[04:57] <sagarp> tronix, i want to burn an iso to a blank cd...could i reverse that command?
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, You need to chmod /usr/bin/amsn still.
[04:57] <tronix> matthew_w: :-) I thought about it for a while, too. I gave up since I wasn't having much luck doing it with raw WINE
[04:57] <phnxgk> i let breezy do the partitioning for me.
[04:57] <brlancer> tronix: awesome, thanks--I know I've run into this before, but I (and google) drew a blank
[04:57] <titanium_platypu> okay....I'm downloading libsdl1.2-dev
[04:57] <SEJeff> brlancer, ls /boot/config-`uname -r`
[04:57] <titanium_platypu> think that's probably it?
[04:57] <titanium_platypu> for compiling source?
[04:57] <matthew_w> tronix; I mean... finding cedega... elsewhere?
[04:57] <Steil> is anyone else having a problem with gtkpod or amaroK copying files very slowly to their ipods?
[04:57] <mazdaracer> phnxgk: let the install auto config your 10gig
[04:57] <matthew_w> tronix; or if you get the program on mininova or something will you still need to input some kind of subscriber name etc. etc. ?
[04:58] <tronix> matthew_w: know what you mean. didn't see anything like that, but then again, I don't have that kind of contact or super-mad search skills :)
[04:58] <phnxgk> also when i downloaded a sencond browser that has a .ded file ending, it says it dosnt support that type of archive when i try to install it.
[04:58] <phnxgk> i did let the install auto config my 10gig
[04:58] <chun_> hi all
[04:58] <phnxgk> .deb*
[04:59] <chun_> erm, i just installed ubuntu and for some reason, the network didn't start at boot, any idea?
[04:59] <matthew_w> tronix; I'll give it a try.
[04:59] <chun_> i mean, i can get connected by doing sudo dhclient eth0
[04:59] <philc> how can I give a newly created user the opportunity to run sudo -s?
[04:59] <tronix> sagarp: you'd use cdrecord dev=/dev/whatever speed=... opts=burnfree foo.iso  or something like that
[04:59] <sorush20> how do I find out my cpu status?
[04:59] <blondie> define status
[04:59] <tronix> sagarp: or use a GUI program to do the burning. I don't know what's good. I only use a wrapper script around cdrecord
[05:00] <blondie> cat /proc/cpu_info ?
[05:00] <viator> hello
[05:00] <viator> i found the answer
[05:00] <viator> for copying the website
[05:00] <FX|Gamer> Hello
[05:00] <molinero> Hello ubuntu users!
[05:00] <viator> apt-get install httrack :)
[05:00] <mazdaracer> phnxgk: don't know if I can offer much beyond that. Sorry. I have a good install on my latest company laptop that's shared with windoze.
[05:00] <viator> :p
[05:00] <phnxgk> hello molinero
[05:00] <molinero> Hello FX|Gamer
[05:00] <garry> For info on having ID games, serious sam and other including unreal, without having to use wine or cedega, there are patches to make them work. see this link for instructions. http://liflg.org/?catid=6
[05:00] <phnxgk> hmm....
[05:00] <molinero> Hello phnxgk greetings from Mexico :D
[05:00] <tronix> philc: hmm... not sure I follow? just add an entry to sudoers with visudo or just update that file with a script
[05:01] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  i think something is eluding me... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6521
[05:01] <michael> is thier any wiki page to teach me how to install tarballs and deb files?
[05:01] <phnxgk> hmm
[05:01] <sammy_> any ppc users?
[05:01] <chun_> i am also looking for the command(gnome-whatever) to lauch the gui for setting up network, anyone knows?
[05:01] <chun_> i have tried almost every thing that starts with gnome-xxxxxx
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> chun_, network-admin
[05:02] <tronix> bienvenido, molinero :)
[05:02] <sagarp> tronix would that work for a bootable disk image too?
[05:02] <philc> tronix: my user, reformist, can do  sudo -s, but cat /etc/sudoers  | grep -i reformist
[05:02] <philc>  produces no output. I "su'd" to the new user, ran sudo -s, and even with the correct password the command fails
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, I'm loading the screenshot, on dialup, with you in a minute.
[05:02] <chun_> tonyyarusso: ha, cheers
[05:02] <B-166_ER-X> ok np.
[05:02] <phnxgk> ok, well how about this prob.  i downloaded opera and got the breezy badger version that has .deb at the end of the file name.  And when i try to install it.... it says that that archive type is unsuported.  any ideas why this is happening?
[05:02] <sorush20> blondie: I keep getting error no such file or dir after cat /proc/cpu_info
[05:02] <garry> System/administration/network
[05:02] <tronix> philc: su - reformist then do 'sudo -l' to see what commands sudo thinks the user is authorized
[05:02] <IdleOne> sammy_:  yes
[05:02] <molinero> tronix, de que pais eres
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, How did you try to install?
[05:03] <SEJeff> chun_, gksudo network-admin
[05:03] <blondie> sorush20: oh, /proc/cpuinfo
[05:03] <philc> tronix: (ALL) ALL. sudo -l with the new user asks for a password
[05:03] <Madpilot> !tell phnxgk about opera
[05:03] <sammy_> idleone: what machine you running?
[05:03] <IdleOne> Imac G3
[05:03] <phnxgk> double click
[05:03] <lorenzo> hi, i accidentaly deleted one of my desktop panels, how do i get it back, thanx?
[05:03] <tronix> philc: that's normal (pw); sudo caches it for 5 mins
[05:03] <tronix> philc: once pw is entered, should be able to get a shell
[05:03] <sammy_> any problems getting it to come out of sleep mode?
[05:03] <SEJeff> chun_, Here is how I found out... Use the menu editor to edit System --> Administration --> Networking and looked at the properties. That was it
[05:03] <philc> tronix: but entering the correct password fails
[05:03] <tronix> philc: ah! hmmmm.
[05:03] <IdleOne> you running OSX?
[05:03] <phnxgk> ok nob question.  how do i tell someone?
[05:03] <tronix> philc: pam issue/setup re: sudo?
[05:04] <phnxgk> noob*
[05:04] <sammy_> yes...
[05:04] <Madpilot> lorenzo: click on your surviving panel, choose Add To Panel
[05:04] <IdleOne> yup
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, What's the output for ls -l /usr/bin/amsn?
[05:04] <Madpilot> lorenzo: right-click, that is
[05:04] <SEJeff> !tell phnxgk about javadebs
[05:04] <garry> t phnxgk use /say name message
[05:04] <chun_> mmm, network-admin looked ok, i don't know why dhclient didn't start the network at boot:/
[05:04] <IdleOne> sammy_:  I usualy have to shut it down and reboot
[05:04] <phnxgk> garry thanks
[05:04] <SEJeff> phnxgk, Is what what you meant?
[05:04] <garry> phnxgk np
[05:04] <Madpilot> lorenzo: ack... click on New Panel
[05:05] <philc> tronix: dunno anything about pam. Maybe it's because I'm switching to the new user via sudo -s -> su, instead of just logging in as that user (I'm doing it this way because I don't know the user's pw)
[05:05] <B-166_ER-X> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 2006-01-02 22:36 /usr/bin/amsn -> /usr/share/amsn/amsn
[05:05] <tronix> philc: also, any of the log files in /var/log mention anything re: sudo auth messages?
[05:05] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,
[05:05] <tronix> (failures and stuff)
[05:05] <sammy_> idleOne: thanks... not what i wnated to hear... but at least it's working right
[05:05] <lorenzo> i did that but everytime i minimise a panel it doesn't show in the new panel, donno if u know what i mean
[05:05] <chun_> SEJeff: yeah, i tried that, but i didn't see the properties options, its weird...
[05:05] <phnxgk> SEJeff i was just trying to get a sencond browser because Firefox kept dieing on me.  and opera wont install it says unsaported file archive.
[05:05] <SEJeff> chun_, I use dapper, so it is a different version of the menu editor
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Try the chmod on /usr/share/amsn/amsn too.
[05:05] <tronix> philc: one way to test quick is to create a test user and experiment with that
[05:05] <IdleOne> sammy_:  not sure if that means its working right bt thats how it works
[05:06] <chun_> SEJeff: i see
[05:06] <SEJeff> phnxgk, Use epiphany
[05:06] <Madpilot> phnxgk: .deb files should be easy to install, and Opera does run on Ubuntu... - see the msg the bot sent you
[05:06] <phnxgk> tonyyarusso i double ckicked on the package on my desktop
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, Opera is even available with apt, from their own repo.
[05:06] <sammy_> u
[05:06] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  doenst change anything :\
[05:06] <chun_> is there a script in /etc/init.d that used to start a specific ethX?
[05:07] <sammy_> IdleOne: jwanted to make sure i didn't have a special problem...
[05:07] <SEJeff> chun_, No /etc/init.d/networking is the only script
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, Ah.  Don't think that works yet.  Try sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/youroperapackage.deb
[05:07] <SEJeff> chun_, use sudo ifup eth0 or sudo ifdown eth0. That is probably what you want to do
[05:07] <IdleOne> sammy_:  I think it's just one of them bugs that you will have to live with
[05:07] <Madpilot> phnxgk: you can't install debs just by double-clicking on them - yet, anyway
[05:07] <phnxgk> Madpilot ok
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, So all of the files involved are executable by all, and it still thinks you lack permission?  What's ls -l on the one in share say?
[05:07] <phnxgk> tonyyarusso ok let me try that.
[05:08] <Madpilot> phnxgk: the wiki page the bot sent you has all the instructions you'll need
[05:08] <SEJeff> phnxgk, doubleclicking the package will work in the next version of ubuntu called dapper drake thanks to some software called gdebi
[05:08] <chun_> SEJeff: yes, but i would like to have ifup eth0 start at boot, so i don't have to type everytime for reboot
[05:08] <sambaseeker> Does anybody know how can I chack that my network card is set to "100 Full duplex mode"??
[05:08] <chun_> SEJeff: i mean, automatically
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> SEJeff, Definitely looking forward to trying that.
[05:08] <phnxgk> SEJeff ok
[05:08] <titanium_platypu> that seems to have done it.  Thanks very much 8-)
[05:08] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  -rwxr-x--x  1 root root 9911 2006-01-02 22:36 /usr/share/amsn/amsn
[05:08] <philc> tronix: good idea. The logs don't show anything helpful about the sudo errors (just failed password attempt). I created a new user, and sudo -s (after a successful password entry) fails with "phil is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:08] <philc> "
[05:08] <SEJeff> chun_, Make a script in /etc/rc2.d/ named something like S99eth0
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Anyone running Dapper tried what SEJeff said?
[05:08] <philc> tronix: so I think I can stick him in /etc/sudoers, but it's weird that my other main user (reformist) isn't in there
[05:09] <tronix> philc: reformist gets a shell, but phil doesn't, and neither is explicitly listed?
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Hmm, add a+r to that, not sure if that'll help.
[05:09] <tronix> philc: (or did I misread something?)
[05:09] <chun_> SEJeff: ok, let me take a look, thx
[05:09] <philc> tronix: that's right. I made phil with "adduser"
[05:09] <SEJeff> tonyyarusso, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-November/013048.html and http://www.flickr.com/photos/whiprush/63596921/
[05:09] <B-166_ER-X> a+r ??
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, chmod again, just replace x with r.
[05:10] <B-166_ER-X> ok
[05:10] <SEJeff> tonyyarusso, Look at the screenshots. Yes, it works perfectly and will fetch dependencies from apt if they are available
[05:10] <tronix> philc: and phil is also in same group and similar setup as reformist? hmm.
[05:10] <flodine> anyone running sharpmusic program?
[05:10] <axisys> anyone knows what key to press to get out of standby mode on laptop
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> SEJeff, Sweet!
[05:10] <axisys> btw, happy new year to all
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> SEJeff, That would be one of the big things my Windows friends will ask about.
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> axisys, On mine it's Fn.
[05:11] <philc> tronix: no, I think you've hit on to it. reformist is the only one in the "adm" and "admin" groups
[05:11] <chun_> SEJeff: erm, i am not very good writing scripts....
[05:11] <djm62> axisys: I close and open the lid
[05:11] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  seems working non-sudo now :) thx, i'll be at least able to link a shortcut now
[05:11] <damnhil> what's the difference between edubuntu and ubuntu?
[05:11] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  forget last line
[05:11] <tronix> philc: ahhh-ha :)
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> flodine, Not at the moment, but I have done so.  Spelled differently though, SharpMusique.
[05:11] <axisys> thnx for the tips,, btw I am using hp nc6220
[05:11] <chun_> SEJeff: or i can just stick ifup eth0 as the script?
[05:11] <philc> tronix: yep, that did it. Brilliant work, thanks for all the help =)
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Good to hear.
[05:11] <SEJeff> chun_, Make the first line #!/bin/bash, that is the command interpreter. Make the second line ifup eth0 (or eth1 or whatever). Then run chmod +x S99eth0
[05:12] <tronix> philc: welcome -- my pleasure
[05:12] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  erase last line, replace with http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6522
[05:12] <chun_> SEJeff: ok kewl, thx again
[05:12] <djm62> axisys: I'm on hp...use the lid
[05:12] <SEJeff> chun_, copy and paste this: http://pastebin.com/488213
[05:12] <axisys> djm62: thnx
[05:12] <SEJeff> np
[05:13] <djm62> axisys: did you buy one with ubuntu installed/supported?
[05:13] <__Dwayne> damnhil--"Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Edubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to schools, through its customised school environment.
[05:13] <henry> hello all
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, locate ctthemes.tcl
[05:13] <henry> can someone tell me how to run an SH build?
[05:13] <FX|Gamer> Hey I have a question. How come when I try to change the icons say like XChat the one I want to use is greyed out?
[05:13] <axisys> djm62: nawp
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, You must've installed this with sudo or as root, right?
[05:14] <phnxgk> tonyyarusso ok when i type that in it askes for my password and i enter it, then it says dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 8602 package `gnome-games':
[05:14] <phnxgk>  `Replaces' field, invalid package name `
[05:14] <B-166_ER-X> looks like it..
[05:14] <axisys> djm62: It came with xp and i formatted and installed breeze
[05:15] <djm62> axisys: I got some mail from hp offering business laptops with ubuntu in the box, but i did the same as you
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, For an Opera package??
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, Hmm.  Have you already tried getting this through apt?
[05:15] <henry> how do you run a SlackBuild?
[05:15] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  i've located ctthemes.tcl,  i changed the permissions... but its still not working.
[05:15] <B-166_ER-X> same error
[05:16] <axisys> i got my laptop through company, so they all get with xp.. i had to get special approval from IT and m director to put linux
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, There might be more of them you have to do that to.  You could try recursively changing the owner of the directory.
[05:16] <sambaseeker> how to start ethtool?
[05:16] <djm62> axisys: sweet deal
[05:16] <axisys> djm62: yeap :-)
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, (My apt line is deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ unstable non-free
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> )
[05:17] <Coag> well hello
[05:17] <phnxgk> tonyyarusso no, i did do the whole update thing, how ever two apps faile dto install after the update  the 2 apps are gnome-games and gmone-games-data
[05:17] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  didnt change .
[05:17] <B-166_ER-X> arr
[05:18] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: does that opera repo line install the v9beta Opera, or the stable 8.51?
[05:18] <axisys> i have a centrino intel chip with a led in the front for wireless.. so i press the button for wireless the led should lit with blue light... but it does not
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, You mean apt-get update to update your sources list, or something else?
[05:18] <B-166_ER-X> seeems like it would be simpler to uninstall and recompile not in sudo
[05:18] <axisys> not much luck with wireless yet. i must say i did not try to make that work either
[05:18] <GregAsche> how do I update my dns?
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, apt-cache policy says Installed: 8.51-20051114.6.  I would assume for stable you would change 'unstable' in the line to 'stable'.
[05:19] <phnxgk> tonyarusso im sorry in still new.  But after i installed Breezy and loged on for the first time, i clicked on the buble that said i had updats.  the little read circle with a slash in it up next to the little speaker in the upper right hand corner
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Wait.
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Turns out I overrode that line with the PLF one.
[05:20] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  so... i do i uninstall something like this ??
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, How can I check other versions of a package from multiple sources?
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, sudo apt-get remove amsn
[05:20] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: no idea, I keep my sources.list as simple as possible...
[05:21] <drapelyk> what file do I need to edit to set a static ip address? anyone?
[05:21] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  it wasnt a package..
[05:21] <axisys> cat /etc/hostname.eth0
[05:21] <B-166_ER-X> 0.95 does not exist yet
[05:21] <B-166_ER-X> as a package
[05:21] <axisys> drapelyk: /etc/hostname.hme0
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Right.
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Not sure.
[05:22] <SEJeff> axisys, Isn't hmexx a Solaris thing?
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> Channel: How do you uninstall something installed from source?
[05:22] <B-166_ER-X> havent found it for ubuntu nyway...thats why  i had to compile it
[05:22] <drapelyk> axisys: returns nothing
[05:22] <axisys> SEJeff: oops u r right.. tahts what happen when u juggle between two OS
[05:22] <SEJeff> tonyyarusso, go back into the uncompressed source directory and run "make uninstall"
[05:23] <B-166_ER-X> ok
[05:23] <SEJeff> axisys, Now try juggling HP-UX, Solaris, Suse, and debian. Welcome to my job :)
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> I must say, these gdebi screenshots are looking pretty cool.
[05:23] <phnxgk> BAH there goes the whole random app closing on me agien
[05:23] <axisys> SEJeff: me too.. i have osx and ubuntu at home and all BSDs and Solaris at work
[05:23] <SEJeff> tonyyarusso, I must say, gdebi is very sweet. It is much better than the fedora doubleclick installer
[05:23] <drapelyk> question still remains: what file do I need to edit to set a static ip on eth0?
[05:23] <SEJeff> axisys, fun fun
[05:23] <phnxgk> this whole installing Breezy has been very difficult for me.
[05:23] <axisys> SEJeff: no suse or hp-ux though
[05:24] <B-166_ER-X> SEjeff , make: *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible  uninstall . Arrt.
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> drapelyk, Is that an option in ifconfig?
[05:24] <SEJeff> axisys, Yes well I work for a novell shop. suse plays much better with eDir than redhat unfortunately
[05:25] <SEJeff> B-166_ER-X, I don't speak french
[05:25] <axisys> SEJeff: understood
[05:25] <drapelyk> tonyyarusso, i'm using command line
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Try putting LANG=en_US before your commands
[05:25] <drapelyk> tonyyarusso, iif that applies
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> drapelyk, ifconfig is command line.
[05:25] <B-166_ER-X> basically 'no rule to build the target'  stopping
[05:25] <SEJeff> drapelyk, /etc/network/interfaces
[05:26] <yonkeltron> is there an rss feed of ubuntu security notices?
[05:26] <SEJeff> drapelyk, try man interfaces to get an idea of how to set up a static ip. /etc/network/interfaces is a debian specific thing I believe
[05:26] <phnxgk> ok well lets try this agine i guess.  I start from my first problem.  When i install breezy it tells me at the very end that some packages wernt installed.  it happend on a burnt ISO from the web site and a distro disk from Linux Format Magazine.
[05:26] <B-166_ER-X> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.       , in fact.
[05:27] <drapelyk> heh, I didn't see this before
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Would anyone be willing to look at my gdm script to try to determine why it breaks my console switching?
[05:27] <drapelyk> SEJeff, thanks!
[05:27] <SEJeff> drapelyk, np
[05:27] <IdleOne>  phnxgk : seems you might have a corupted discs
[05:28] <phnxgk> IdleOne it happened twice.  with 2 different discs.
[05:28] <aaron_> hello...i just installed my first linux distro, and was wondering if someone could point to a website where I can get my bearings straigt?
[05:28] <B-166_ER-X> i guess juste deleting the whole folder wouldnt be okay eh :\
[05:28] <aaron_> i don't even know how to install apps! haha
[05:28] <sambaseeker> how to start aplication from command line?
[05:29] <IdleOne> phnxgk:  sorry i dont know what else it could be... my install went without a hitch
[05:29] <henry> can anyone tell me how to install a tgz?
[05:29] <phnxgk> IdleOne Hmm...
[05:29] <IdleOne> aaron_:  what distro? try theyre website
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> aaron_, Check out things like the wiki and forums from ubuntulinux.org, the tutorials on linux.org, wander Google, and ask in here.
[05:29] <aaron_> yeah i've poked around a little, but it hasn't made any sense (it's ubuntu 5.10)
[05:30] <IdleOne> then your in the right place
[05:30] <phnxgk> IdleOne Ok how bout this.  When i try to run firefox, it will run for about 2 min then it will just randomly close on me.  cancleing any downloads in progress.  is this a known isuue?
[05:30] <henry> can someone tell me how to install a slackware app?
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> aaron_, I'd never seen, much less used, Linux until last August, and I know I'm not the only one, so don't feel bad about being new to it all.
[05:30] <steve_laptop> ok who is using a IPOD with linux?
[05:30] <phreak97> uhh
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> phnxgk, 1.07 or 1.5?
[05:31] <aaron_> thanks...
[05:31] <phreak97> my taskbar has become badly positioned boxes on the desktop
[05:31] <SEJeff> henry, If you don't know, it is going to be a nightmare as you will have to manually do dependency installation etc. Try installing it from synaptic or using apt-get
[05:31] <aaron_> it's wierd thinking you know how to use a computer, then being completely lost at sea
[05:31] <IdleOne> phnxgk:  have you added the universe and multiverse repositories?
[05:31] <phreak97> im gonna restart
[05:31] <Harimwakairi> another quick terminal question if anyone's got a sec:
[05:31] <phnxgk> IdleOne its what ever is installed by default with Breezy.
[05:31] <Harimwakairi> I tried to exit a terminal session and it said I had stopped jobs
[05:31] <Harimwakairi> ps showed two
[05:32] <Harimwakairi> what number out of the ps report do I pass to the kill command to stop them?
[05:32] <phnxgk> IdleOne now that just confussed the hell out of me.  *cries*  im such a noob.  ><
[05:32] <Harimwakairi> or is there a better way?
[05:32] <B-166_ER-X> anyone knows how to delete a file installed from source ...and 'make uninstall' not working?
[05:32] <IdleOne> phnxgk:  go to System/synaptic manager/ repository
[05:32] <B-166_ER-X> file/folder
[05:32] <IdleOne> check them all off and reload
[05:32] <SEJeff> !w32codecs
[05:32] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:32] <aaron_> thanks for the help, i'll go do some reading
[05:33] <chun_> cool, my network worx!
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> !tell phnxgk about universe and multiverse
[05:33] <chun_> moving on to the next question;)
[05:33] <chun_> anyone here uses chinese input?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> !tell phnxgk about universe
[05:34] <chun_> i got chinese input working fine, but it does not seem to work so well with openoffice:/
[05:34] <phnxgk> IdleOne ok i get this error Unable to get exclusive lock
[05:34] <phnxgk> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first.
[05:34] <IdleOne> phn after doing what?
[05:34] <IdleOne> phnxgk:
[05:35] <Madpilot> phnxgk: that's a pretty well-explained error msg - do you have Synaptic running?
[05:35] <phnxgk> IdleOne and i dont have anything running that i know off. ><    After going to wher eyou told me to
[05:36] <IdleOne> seems his irc client closes randomly also
[05:37] <MickMcMack> Ded'd.
[05:37] <IdleOne> phnxgk:  welcome back
[05:37] <phnxgk> ok 4 times irc has closed randomly on me since i have been in here
[05:38] <SEJeff> phnxgk,  Works fine for me. I stay in here for days at a time
[05:38] <phnxgk> IdleOne Thanks
[05:38] <phnxgk> Firefox is doing the same thing to me.
[05:38] <IdleOne> !tell phnxgk  about universe
[05:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> o_O
[05:39] <IdleOne> O_o
[05:41] <phnxgk> ok when ever i try to go to synaptic package manager i get the error.....
[05:41] <phnxgk> oh..... wow...
[05:41] <phnxgk> it worked for me this time
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> How do I get the list of all the factoids ubotu knows?
[05:42] <IdleOne> !tell tonyyarusso  about everything lmao
[05:42] <IdleOne> hehe
[05:42] <IdleOne> sorry couldnt help myself
[05:42] <IdleOne> i wont abuse the bot anymore
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, As amusing as that was, it didn't work though.
[05:42] <IdleOne> :|
[05:43] <IdleOne> yeah I saw
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> Someone did it earlier, with something-or-other list I think
[05:43] <IdleOne> who hosts the bot?
[05:43] <IdleOne> they must have a list
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, cafuego (sp?) manages it I think.
[05:45] <cyphase> i just freed up 26GB of hard drive space :P
[05:45] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso:  really dont know where you could get that list but it must exist
[05:45] <Hendikins> Is that all?
[05:45] <Hendikins> My spring cleaning record is about 60
[05:45] <cyphase> i tr and clean up more often
[05:45] <cyphase> :)
[05:45] <cyphase> try*
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, The Wiki page for the bot has common ones, but I'm just curious what all is in there?
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, do you know?
[05:46] <SEJeff> Hendikins, I just clean out my bittorrent seeds folder and that will free up at *least* 60GB
[05:46] <Hendikins> I don't torrent.
[05:46] <Hendikins> Dial-up + bittorrent don't work well together
[05:47] <SEJeff> true true
[05:47] <garry> I once did a gzip on / directory to backup my system. I didn't know that gzip deletes the files after, so gzipping, and recursing the directory, sure freed up a LOT of space.
[05:47] <IdleOne> didnt think anybody still used dialup
[05:47] <varsendagger> hey is there a good noobie wiki ?  just for basic stuff how to mount etcetera
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, I do when I'm at home.
[05:47] <Hendikins> Some people don't have a choice in the matter.
[05:47] <Hendikins> <insert regulation swearing and cursing at Telstra here>
[05:47] <HCIRE> anyone with quake 3 knowledge in here?
[05:48] <IdleOne> Hendikins:  didnt mean to offend
[05:48] <phnxgk> *cry*  why is it closing on me so much... ><
[05:48] <varsendagger> NE 1
[05:48] <Hendikins> IdleOne: I've got a much thicker skin than that...
[05:48] <notOnyx> how large is an ubuntu install? I currently run XP on my thinkpad and am considering a dual boot. Where can I read a how too on such an undertaking
[05:49] <phnxgk> ok am i supposed to check the main restricted universe multiverse entries?
[05:49] <garry> You know you are going to get a lot of free cleanup when your daughter says "What does formatting C: Mean?" The firefox default page, has some nice info on ubuntu.
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> notOnyx, 2-3G is about standard for a minimal desktop setup.  I have dual XP-Ubuntu on a T43, btw.
[05:49] <RON2255> Hello guys
[05:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phnxgk: If you want non-main stuff like mplayer...
[05:49] <Hendikins> IdleOne: anyone who goes in to #debian to pick a fight needs a /really/ thick skin ;-)
[05:49] <IdleOne> phnxgk:  best thing I could tell you is order install discs from ubuntu website...thats what i did waitied about 4 weeks but they work fine
[05:49] <SEJeff> notOnyx, Thanks to IBM, ubuntu works well on a thinkpad. The install will resize your windows partiton without breaking things
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> !tell notOnyx about dualboot
[05:50] <RON2255> Again I got a problem with the printer can you help why I get this massage
[05:50] <RON2255> mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/bin/samsung': Permission denied
[05:50] <RON2255> cp: `/usr/local/bin/samsung/x86_64/': specified destination directory does not exist
[05:50] <RON2255> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[05:50] <RON2255> libstdc++ v3 (gcc 2.96) not found, intstall ... tar: usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: Cannot create symlink to `libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so': Permission denied
[05:50] <RON2255> tar: usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.2-2-2.10.0.so: Cannot open: Permission denied
[05:50] <RON2255> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[05:50] <SEJeff> notOnyx, But you *HAVE* to defrag your windows drive first
[05:50] <RON2255> ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denieddone
[05:50] <IdleOne> Hendikins:  I have never been
[05:50] <nemik> hello, having some trouble getting a computer wirelessly setup with a 2wire DSL router. i tried hex and ASCII WEP key and nothing works....just won't connect
[05:50] <phnxgk> Idleone  i just might do that
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> notOnyx, Yes, do defrag.
[05:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RON2255: Try using sudo to run the script as root.
[05:50] <notOnyx> tony and jeff: thanks so much. You know I've been in here twice today, and both times I've gotten these perfect answers. I was playing around with this OS at work today, there's something...easy about it
[05:51] <notOnyx> it seems like linux is turning a corner with this flavor...
[05:51] <garry> There's a defrag with ubuntu?
[05:51] <RON2255> Pu I am new to this can you explain how?
[05:51] <notOnyx> I shall defrag tonight
[05:51] <Hendikins> IdleOne: I had a go at them for patching Firefox up the wazoo and sending support questions upstream... because upstream basically means me. I'm hanging around in here to help with Firefox questions, because the whole atmosphere is at the opposite end of the scale to #debian.
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> notOnyx, It does seem that way.  Although I seem to be good at breaking it, but that's just me playing around with things I don't understand.
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> garry, No, it's for his Windows.
[05:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RON2255: How are you doing it now?
[05:52] <Hendikins> and I may order some Ubunutu CDs when dapper goes gold
[05:52] <RON2255> In the desktop I had download the driver
[05:52] <garry> tonyyarusso ok, thnaks.
[05:52] <IdleOne> Hendikins:  why am i getting problems with retreiving my stats from pogo.com ( using firefox 1.0.7 )
[05:52] <IdleOne> ?
[05:53] <Hendikins> IdleOne: I believe we have a thread on our forum related to pogo.com problems. I've never used the site myself.
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> Hendikins, Ah hah!  A FF person!  Using 1.5 here, and noticed that instead of clicking one "update" button, I had to go through my extensions list and update all of the ones that had updates available.  Am I missing something?
[05:53] <Hendikins> tonyyarusso: I'm sort of a Firefox person. I use the suite instead, but am high up in the support tree.
[05:54] <drapelyk> anyone know why .htaccess doesn't work when I configure it correctly?
[05:54] <IdleOne> Hendikins:  link to forum please
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> Hendikins, Ah.  Do you know the answer to that anyway?
[05:54] <sambaseeker> why I can not mount floppy drive? I got error "Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[05:54] <Hendikins> IdleOne: forums.mozillazine.org, just do a search for pogo.com
[05:54] <sambaseeker> I want to copy something on floppy
[05:54] <IdleOne> Hendikins: ty
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> drapelyk, Does the server hosting it support it?  (Not sure if that's your machine or through an ISP is why I ask.)
[05:55] <Hendikins> IdleOne: I could be wrong on that count, but I could swear I've seen it mentioned in Fx Support more than once
[05:55] <drapelyk> it's my machine
[05:56] <drapelyk> tonyyarusso, the .htaccess and .htpasswd files disappear from view when created is that normal?
[05:56] <Hendikins> tonyyarusso: What extensions are involved? I'm not sure if using a non-UMO update source complicates things, and some extensions do.
[05:56] <sambaseeker> how can I copy file to floppy disk?
[05:56] <scott__> #launchpad
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> drapelyk, dot files are hidden, so yes.  Using ls with the -a switch will show them.
[05:56] <drapelyk> k
[05:57] <drapelyk> tonyyarusso, does apache need to be configured to use .htaccess? or is it an Ubuntu problem?
[05:57] <Sonderblade> is there a way to check what the latest version of a package is that ubuntu has packaged in any of its repositories?
[05:58] <JaZy84> hey guys i have VLC and it will not play a wmv mplayer will freeze when it attempts. anyone know what will play it
[05:58] <JaZy84> ?
[05:59] <Toma--> JaZy84: what codec does it use?
[05:59] <JaZy84> asf
[05:59] <JaZy84> it looks like
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Hendikins, Oy.  Ones that might change the list: Sort Extensions, Slim Extension List, Menu Editor.  Total I got 115 to play with, so listing them could be an interesting feat.
[05:59] <Toma--> JaZy84: run "file videoforyou.wmv"
[05:59] <Hendikins> 115?
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> drapelyk, I'm not really sure how it works, as I don't run servers myself.  I just know that webspace provided by some ISPs doesn't support them.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Hendikins, So I get bored and spend too much time browsing the addons page.
[06:00] <matt_> whats up all
[06:00] <drapelyk> tonyyarusso, thanks
[06:00] <JaZy84> ms ASF
[06:01] <Toma--> mmkay.
[06:01] <Hendikins> tonyyarusso: I was one of the admin staff for UMO when the site launched. Internal politics forced me (and a few others) out
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> Hendikins, (What's UMO stand for?) What sort of politics?
[06:02] <Toma--> JaZy84: looks like the asf plugin actually comes with vlc. have you installed w32codecs yet?
[06:03] <Hendikins> Update dot Mozilla dot Org. I won't go in to the politics, other than to say that they exist.
[06:03] <Coag> !wine
[06:03] <JaZy84> not directly can it be found in apt?
[06:04] <tbw> Anyone know if wine can run iTunes?
[06:04] <tbw> That'd be nice.;)
[06:04] <Hendikins> I know CrossOver Officce runs iTunes 4.9, but I don't use vanilla wine.
[06:04] <Madpilot> tbw: I've heard that it can, but I don't run either wine or an iTunes...
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> tbw, If not, SharpMusique can use the iTunes library.
[06:05] <Toma--> tbw: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1347
[06:05] <tbw> tonyyarusso, : Video aswell ?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> tbw: Haven't tried that.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> tbw: Maybe.
[06:06] <Jinkguns> I hate having to downgrade my kernel just because the headers for .12 aren't out yet.
[06:06] <JaZy84> how would i install this w32codec?
[06:06] <moshe> why is mkisofs giving me problems with UTF-8?
[06:07] <eobanb> 'the headers arent out yet'??
[06:07] <eobanb> wwhat?
[06:07] <JaZy84> i can find some rpms think it'll be safe to ue them
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> !tell JaZy84 about w32codecs
[06:07] <IdleOne> Hendikins:  ty so much... just needed to allow pogo.com ans ea.com to install
[06:07] <JaZy84> thanks.
[06:07] <Hendikins> tonyyarusso: Some of the folks in #firefox seem to think you've got a record for extensions (-:
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Hendikins, Do I get a prize?
[06:08] <Hendikins> IdleOne: I didn't help you, you helped yourself. No need to thank me (-:
[06:08] <IdleOne> Hendikins:  you pointed me in the right direction
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey.... w32codecs....
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !tell PuMpErNiCkLe about w32codecs
[06:09] <ubuntuguy> anyone tell me how to apt-get the kernel source?
[06:09] <Jinkguns> The headers for 2.6.12 don't exist, otherwise I skipped over them. :/
[06:10] <henry> how do you move a file to the file system?
[06:10] <henry> in terminal
[06:10] <eobanb> with mv
[06:11] <henry> soo
[06:11] <henry> sudo mv file.tgz
[06:11] <henry> ?
[06:11] <henry> or what?
[06:11] <henry> eobanb is that correct?
[06:11] <eobanb> mv file.tgz /new/location/for/file.tgz
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Is it you that manages the bot?
[06:11] <eobanb> get it?
[06:11] <henry> so if I want to move to the filesyste
[06:12] <henry> should I put
[06:12] <henry> a /
[06:12] <henry> sudo mv file.tgz /
[06:12] <henry> ?
[06:12] <henry> like that
[06:12] <henry> eobanb
[06:12] <eobanb> uh, sure, i dont think you want to do that though
[06:12] <daskog> anyone that uses Linux for graphics design? Alias Maya, Softimage XSI, Shake 4?
[06:12] <henry> I want to install a tgz program.
[06:12] <eobanb> henry, you usually dont want to move files to the root level
[06:13] <daskog> Mainly Ubuntu
[06:13] <eobanb> henry, let's back up a minute..
[06:13] <henry> well eobanb what do you suggest I do for installing cedega.tgz?
[06:13] <Coag> why am i nto being able to isntall wine
[06:13] <Coag> i added the repos
[06:13] <Coag> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:13] <Coag> got that error
[06:13] <Coag> on apt-get install wine
[06:13] <eobanb> henry, talk to cedega support about that
[06:13] <IdleOne> Hendikins:  how do i upgrade FF to 1.5 from 1.0.7?
[06:14] <daskog> Im wondering if Ubuntu will support higher resolution and the GUI will be faster after i install the Nvidia drivers?
[06:14] <henry> eobanb...
[06:14] <henry> I don't have an account
[06:14] <henry> my friend gave me the tgz
[06:14] <eobanb> how do you not have an account?
[06:14] <Hendikins> IdleOne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion has information about this specifically for Ubuntu users. I'll have to review it at some point.
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> IdleOne: download it from Mozilla
[06:14] <daskog> Anyone
[06:14] <eobanb> henry, this channel doesn't condone software piracy, i'm afraid we can't help you.
[06:14] <daskog> ?
[06:14] <henry> eobanb my friend gave me the tgz
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> IdleOne: Trying to use apt right now causes issues
[06:14] <TuxOtaku> hey, why won't apt-get see the package i downloaded??
[06:15] <henry> oh ok eobanb
[06:15] <corhere> i am in need of disabling the ehci_hcd driver (usb2). i tried blacklisting it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist, but that had no effect. what other ways are there to do so?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> IdleOne, Hendikins: I used those instructions for 1.5, only issue was getting some plugins to work, which was a matter of making symlinks.
[06:15] <Hendikins> tonyyarusso: I'm using SuSE Linux myself, so until I get my paws on a testing box or some bandwidth, it is all moot to me.
[06:16] <ubuntuguy> NDIS is hell on earth
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> TuxOtaku, apt-get is for getting packages, if you downloaded it yourself you install with dpkg -i.
[06:16] <usernewbie> how can i change password for user from command line?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, passwd username
[06:17] <daskog> Calling people with Nvidia cards!
[06:17] <TuxOtaku> ohhh....still getting used to the debian way of doing things...thanx tonyyarusso
[06:17] <eobanb> daskog, it depends
[06:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Say what? :)
[06:17] <daskog> Will Ubuntu be faster with the Nvidia drivers? How about the GUI?
[06:17] <gabym> Hi... I've just install ubuntu version 5.10, and the system doesn't regconize the slave hard disk, any idea?
[06:17] <eobanb> daskog, well what card do you have?
[06:17] <daskog> Geforce 7800 Gtx
[06:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: :O
[06:17] <usernewbie> tonyyaruso: it wont let me change..
[06:18] <daskog> Amd x2
[06:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: hell yeah :O
[06:18] <daskog> ok =)
[06:18] <Hendikins> daskog: If you're planning to do 3D, that's a trick question.
[06:18] <eobanb> gabym, have you tried going to, i think, System > Administration > Disks and enabling the other HDD
[06:18] <daskog> what you mean?
[06:18] <Hendikins> The only possible answer is "yes"
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, If you're trying to change other users, run it with sudo.
[06:18] <daskog> Oh
[06:19] <jim__>  !
[06:19] <Hendikins> and asking it answers it
[06:19] <daskog> it's to early for me to understand humor =P
[06:19] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: I used: sudo passwd usename
[06:19] <Toma--> jim__: english.
[06:19] <Jinkguns> What is the best way to install the nvidia drivers for direct rendering.
[06:19] <usernewbie> got back "sorry try again"
[06:19] <usernewbie> I want to change password for that used
[06:19] <daskog> ok ok
[06:19] <usernewbie> user
[06:19] <eobanb> usernewbie, i assume you that you are replacing 'username' with the actual user name for which you want to change the password
[06:20] <daskog> Im using Suse 10 now, No disrespecting but is Ubuntu Faster/snappier than Suse 10?
[06:20] <usernewbie> eobanb: i forgot passwor so I want to change password for that user
[06:20] <Locke> how do i open folders that were installed with wine?
[06:20] <gabym> did so and nothing happened :(
[06:20] <Coag> :/
[06:20] <Coag> waht is with the wine repository
[06:20] <Coag> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, First, what eobanb said.  I think what happened is you put in what you wanted to use as the new password at the wrong prompt, entering it to get into sudo before you even got to passwd.
[06:21] <Coag> i can't install wine at all
[06:21] <jim__> Locke - wine folders are under /home/<username>/.wine/
[06:21] <Locke> coag get Automatix
[06:21] <Hendikins> daskog: Without being able to compare on speed, I'd say there's more to it than just raw speed. That, and if you're using an X2, the difference is probably moot anyway due to raw power.
[06:21] <Coag> Locke: explain
[06:21] <henry> how do you install a cpkg file??
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, You'll have to first enter the sudoer's (your, presumably) password, and then the new one you want to assign for the other user.
[06:21] <Locke> !tell coag about Automatix
[06:22] <Coag> (21:21:50) <ubotu:coag> locke wants you to know: I guess automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT
[06:22] <Coag> nice
[06:22] <Locke> coag lol
[06:22] <Jinkguns> How do I install nvidia drivers with ubuntu?
[06:22] <seth_k|lappy> Locke, ubotu is right. DON'T use automatix
[06:22] <seth_k|lappy> it breaks systems
[06:22] <VitorBeltrao> How can I install KDE on ubuntu?
[06:22] <Coag> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:22] <seth_k|lappy> VitorBeltrao, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <Coag> Jinkguns: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:22] <Locke> seth_k| lappy never had a single problem with it at all
[06:22] <Jinkguns> that's it?
[06:22] <daskog> Hendikins: Ok, but i feel like x86-64 distroes are a little new yet. wich of Ubuntu release are best as of today: x86 or x86-64?
[06:22] <Jinkguns> No config file to edit?
[06:22] <Coag> Jinkguns: yes
[06:23] <VitorBeltrao> seth_k|lappy, it did not found...
[06:23] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: is it possible that somebody hacked my PC and changed SUDO password?
[06:23] <VitorBeltrao> :/
[06:23] <moshe> hello
[06:23] <eobanb> daskog, if you plan on using some binary-only software, probably not x86-64
[06:23] <Coag> anyone else have help on the whole wine thing?
[06:23] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: it wont accept my old password
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Possible, yes.  Likely, probably not.
[06:23] <madewokherd> apt-cache says wine is in universe
[06:23] <seth_k|lappy> Coag, it's in the repos... did you not find it?
[06:23] <madewokherd> wait a second
[06:23] <Coag> seth_k|lappy: doesn't exist
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Did you not log into the system?  How long ago was that?
[06:23] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: can I reset SUDO password?
[06:23] <moshe> mkisofs says "Unable to make a DVD-Video image."  But it gives no other info.  How do I create a dvd-video image if mkisofs won't play nice?
[06:23] <Hendikins> daskog: I'm a SuSE user. Can't answer that. I'm using the x86_64 version of 9.3 though, and yeah, 64bit stuff does feel a bit new at times.
[06:23] <madewokherd> weren't you on 64-bit ?
[06:24] <seth_k|lappy> Coag, you'll need to enable universe
[06:24] <Coag> i thought i did
[06:24] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: system was on for few days
[06:24] <seth_k|lappy> Coag, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:24] <Coag> i know
[06:24] <seth_k|lappy> Coag, if you did, then did you run sudo apt-get update?
[06:24] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: it wont let me log-in with my old password
[06:24] <Coag> yes
[06:24] <daskog> Im on Suse 10 x86-64
[06:24] <seth_k|lappy> Coag, would you pastebin your sources.list for me?
[06:25] <Coag> seth_k|lappy: one moment
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Do you have the root password set?
[06:25] <Coag> there was a space before the line for universe, could that have been it?
[06:25] <eobanb> usernewbie, the whole point of passwords is to protect the system, so if you've forgotten the password(s) for the sudoer user(s) there really just isn't an easy solution
[06:25] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: no, I have no root account
[06:25] <punkass> use dapper anyone else get this when trying to run network manager:
[06:25] <punkass> The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue.
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Check the little things, like CapsLock.
[06:26] <weekang> hi
[06:26] <weekang> i installed xubuntu-desktop on kubuntu breezy
[06:26] <Coag> seth_k|lappy: brb
[06:26] <weekang> just wondering why my lock screen button doesn't work
[06:26] <weekang> but everything else is cool.. xfce is fast
[06:26] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: i did check that
[06:26] <eobanb> punkass, there are lingering issues with dapper.  the latest stable version is breezy
[06:26] <moshe> hmm
[06:26] <TuxOtaku> personally, punkass...i don't bother running bleeding-edge versions.
[06:26] <corhere> i may seem a little impatient but i would like to know how to get ehci_hcd (usb2 controller) from loading at startup.
[06:27] <TuxOtaku> too many issues
[06:27] <corhere> clarification: prevent it from loading at startup
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Then you may very well be out of luck.  You really think it's more likely it was hacked than you forgot?
[06:27] <daskog> It's probaly a shot in the dark, but how long til x86-64 distroes Mature?
[06:27] <eobanb> daskog, they are mature.  you're confusing the distro with the software available for the distro
[06:27] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: password was very simple... i do not even know how to change sudo password :(
[06:27] <punkass> thanks, everything else is working fine...just a couple updates ago i ran into that..just curious if anyone else had
[06:28] <madewokherd> Coag: I don't think you can get wine on amd64
[06:28] <daskog> Ok
[06:28] <Hendikins> daskog: I use x86_64 Linux on a daily basis to do Real Work[TM] . They're perfectly usable.
[06:28] <madewokherd> so you'd either have to force it somehow, build it yourself, or use qemu
[06:28] <Hendikins> madewokherd: Crossover runs fine on x86_64.
[06:28] <daskog> Probaly iam
[06:28] <heatxsink_> hello all
[06:28] <Coag> that would suck madewokherd
[06:28] <Coag> anyways
[06:28] <Coag> i've got to go for now :/
[06:28] <eobanb> daskog, if you want makers of proprietary software (codecs, drivers, etc) to write 64-bit versions, you'll have to contact them and ask them; otherwise we can't do anything about it
[06:28] <heatxsink_> anyone in here know if the saa7134 kernel module irq kernel problem was fixed in the latest kernel?
[06:28] <Hendikins> and if Crossover runs, wine is obviously capable of running on x86_64
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, The password for sudo is the same as the password of the user created during the default install.  Sudo doesn't use a separate password, but the login one of users in the sudoers file.
[06:29] <eobanb> as far as i know, wine runs just fine on x86-64.
[06:29] <madewokherd> but is it in the ubuntu repositories for 64?
[06:29] <madewokherd> wait a second
[06:29] <eobanb> wine is free software, so yes, it is available for all three platforms
[06:29] <TuxOtaku> anyone know where i can find a deb for firefox 1.5?
[06:30] <Hendikins> madewokherd: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so I wouldn't know. I just know that wine works on x86_64.
[06:30] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: im now in logged as diferent user and can not login no more as main user
[06:30] <Toran> how can I install the IPTables::IPv4 perl module?
[06:31] <sklav> look for it on synaptic
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Well then, insert language not acceptable to actually type in this channel here.
[06:31] <eobanb> usernewbie, i don't get what you expect us to say; if you dont have the password for the main user, you can't do anything, and you'll have to recover with a liveCD or re-install or something like that.  sorry.
[06:31] <daskog> Ok my last question! this goes out to those who do a lot of testing...How is the stability compared with Ubuntu x86-64 and Suse x86-64? reason i ask i cause i built my pc for graphics production (Xsi5, Shake etc)
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, Can you change passwords from a Live CD?!?
[06:31] <sklav> boot into single user mode
[06:31] <sklav> you can change the password
[06:32] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, this is what bios/bootloader passwords are for :)
[06:32] <daskog> Btw how could he loggin if he dont know the password?
[06:32] <sklav> i think you need to add --single on the boot menu by typing e on grub
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, I've also heard of some tricks for accessing a root console, which you might be able to use if they haven't been disabled.
[06:32] <usernewbie> eobanb: how can I reset password from LiveCD?
[06:32] <eobanb> daskog, he logged in as a different user on the system.
[06:32] <eobanb> usernewbie, i dont know, i've never had to do that
[06:32] <Toran> It isn't in synaptic
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, And I do have that set.  Still a little bit taken aback though.
[06:32] <madewokherd> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wine/ <-- I'm not seeing anything 64-bit there
[06:33] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, well it makes sense, doesnt it?
[06:33] <sklav> toran if its a perl module so a seacrh for perl and scoll down the list
[06:33] <glasseye1> hey can anyone point me to a page that lists linux compatible wireless cards?
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, Well, I suppose.
[06:33] <Jinkguns> which should I use, linux-headers-2.6.12.10 or linux-headers-2.6.12-386?
[06:33] <Toran> sklav: It isn't in the list!
[06:33] <Toran> I did that already.
[06:33] <sklav> Toran,  install cpan
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> eobanb, You'd just have to mount the actual disk into the working live session and go from there then I suppose, right?
[06:33] <sklav> and install it from there
[06:33] <jdmpike> so what do you use to purchase songs on the internet when you run linux?
[06:33] <Toran> I tried installing it with cpan and it spat compile errors
[06:33] <eobanb> tonyyarusso, yeah, i'd imagine it involves chrooting a few times
[06:34] <sklav> not the best way but since ur using a package manager 100% of the time but its another option
[06:34] <madewokherd> jdmpike: use a browser?
[06:34] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: can I be hacked even if im behind router and have 3 ports open on that router?
[06:34] <Toran> IPv4.xs:379: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'iptc_get_references' differ in signedness
[06:34] <jdmpike> are there any mp3 services like napster or rhapsody
[06:34] <madewokherd> I think there's an itunes client
[06:34] <jdmpike> I know that iTunes isn't available
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Try reading !grub through the part about hooking into the disk for the live session, and try it from there.
[06:34] <eobanb> jdmpike, there are very few options in terms of desktop software; you could try pymusique or websites like allofmp3 but their legality is questionable
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, Maybe.
[06:34] <sklav> Toran by default if not mistaken there are no devel packages installed so it would be hard to compile the perl modules
[06:34] <madewokherd> I'm pretty sure I had an itunes client
[06:34] <madewokherd> on linux
[06:35] <sklav> then again im not sure compiling is required
[06:35] <daskog> Anyone got the WMP54G V4 to work with x86-64 & AMD X2? hurd somthin about SMP messing it up etc
[06:35] <sklav> but make is
[06:35] <eobanb> madewokherd, you're thinking of pymusique.
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, madewokherd, SharpMusique.
[06:35] <corhere> glasseye1: this is a good comprehensive list http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[06:35] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: thanks man for your help, i will probably do format but i do not want to lose all data there :(
[06:35] <sklav> ok guys im off
[06:35] <jdmpike> madewokherd, I think that the iTunes clone you speak of didn't let you purchase music from applie
[06:36] <corhere> usernewbie: try this http://linuxgazette.net/107/tomar.html
[06:36] <sklav> see u all tomorrow
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, The mounting stuff from !grup isn't too hard, so it's worth checking whether that works.
[06:36] <madewokherd> I see
[06:36] <madewokherd> I'm not actually signed up to itunes so I haven't tried
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, It makes every appearance of doing so.  It took my credit card info.  Haven't actually tested that yet though, just previewed.
[06:36] <eobanb> nice links, corhere
[06:37] <madewokherd> I just use last.fm and allofmp3
[06:37] <usernewbie> brb
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird store more than two e-mail addresses for a contact?
[06:38] <madewokherd> or buy actual albums, which is usually cheaper than the $.99 per song
[06:38] <theblue> Hi all.
[06:38] <theblue> Is there a way I can have less open a random file from within a directory?
[06:38] <daskog> Ubuntu it is
[06:38] <daskog> Yey
[06:38] <theblue> They files have normal alphanumeric names, not parsable at all for content.
[06:39] <daskog> Do i need a firewall with linux?
[06:39] <boow> about how long does it take for ubuntu cds to arrive its been a month already
[06:39] <theblue> daskog: Yes.
[06:39] <theblue> boow: give it a few more days, remember, you got them for free.
[06:39] <daskog> does Ubuntu have one
[06:39] <eobanb> daskog, depends.
[06:39] <daskog> ?
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> boow, They say 4-6 weeks.
[06:39] <daskog> well im a home user
[06:39] <theblue> boow: And they're being shipped from the Netherlands, so be patient.
[06:39] <intelikey> oh my, oh no, what a terrable error; ubuntu installer red screen of error.  "no network interfaces detected"   what ever shall i do ?
[06:39] <theblue> daskog: You'd like Firestarter, then.
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> boow, Mine was a bit longer the first time.
[06:40] <boow> i thought they were located in the us
[06:40] <eobanb> daskog, if you're behind nat i'd say there isnt much of a reason why you'd need a software firewall too
[06:40] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, you haven't purchased any music with this? are the tunes DRM'd
[06:40] <intelikey> well i guess that means i can't use ubuntu....
[06:40] <theblue> boow: Nope, Canonical (Ubuntu's parent foundation) is in the Isle of Man, and the Shipit center is in the Netherlands.
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> boow, No.  The distro originated in the Isle of Man, and ShipIt comes out of the Netherlands.
[06:40] <theblue> boow: Not everything that has English is in the US.
[06:41] <theblue> Jinx, tonyyarusso.
[06:41] <daskog> But i dont understand who whants to Hack my Linux box?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Really don't know, got the client recently and haven't played with it yet.
[06:41] <holycow> bah, dpkg is hung up and can't be killed
[06:41] <theblue> daskog: Same people who want to attack your Windows box, but Linux is more secure.
[06:41] <daskog> Ohh
[06:41] <holycow> if you can't kill zombie proceses, the only thing you can do is wait for the kernel to kill theprocess it self?
[06:42] <theblue> holycow: Did you try the killall command?
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> theblue, Very true.  But don't think I'm going to actually stop talking until a mouse that looks like the President walks backwards across my left foot or anything.
[06:42] <boow> i was thinking of getting broadband so i'll probably have it installed by the time the cds arrive
[06:42] <madewokherd> zombie processes are already dead
[06:42] <holycow> yep
[06:42] <theblue> holycow: Or killing it using top?
[06:42] <ColonelPanique> holycow : don't fret on no stankin' zombie process ;-)
[06:42] <theblue> tonyyarusso: Owe.
[06:42] <holycow> top doesn't kill anything, it just lists porcesses
[06:42] <madewokherd> if you kill the parent (or the parent checks on them), they'll go away
[06:42] <usernewbie> tonyyarusso: how can I switch to main user from command line?
[06:42] <theblue> tonyyarusso: Can you just owe me a Coca Cola, then?
[06:42] <madewokherd> but yeah, there's probably no reason to worry about them
[06:43] <Toma--> holycow: does top say there are any zombies?
[06:43] <holycow> madewokherd, what if it doesn't have a parent?  or rather how do you find out if it does?
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> usernewbie, su theirusername
[06:43] <madewokherd> I'm not sure of a command line way, gnome system monitor can tell you :/
[06:43] <holycow> Toma--, top -i lists processes on 'hold' or whatever its called
[06:43] <salty> hi guys
[06:43] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, how did you install deb, I am getting circular dependancy issues with libglade, libgtk, etc
[06:43] <holycow> i didn't see a switch to show zombie status
[06:43] <ara> what's the command to take the little red "X" symbol off from a folder?
[06:43] <salty> how goes it
[06:43] <eobanb> jdmpike, what are you trying to install
[06:44] <ColonelPanique> holycow : you cannot kill a zombie process homey
[06:44] <madewokherd> it's under status
[06:44] <Toma--> holycow: just run "top" and look at the top left
[06:44] <holycow> top
[06:44] <holycow> bah wrong window :)
[06:44] <Toma--> in a terminal :D
[06:44] <Toma--> hehehe
[06:44] <jdmpike> eobanb sharpmusique
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, A standalone deb that you downloaded you mean?  If it can't to it automatically, try installing the packages it mentions and then trying again.
[06:44] <salty> we noticed :)
[06:44] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, the packages it needs all depend on one another, so they won't install
[06:44] <holycow> where would it state status?
[06:45] <ColonelPanique> holycow : uhhh under the column heading 'S" ;-)
[06:45] <Toma--> holycow: it'll say "0 zombie" hopefully up the top, at the end of the 2nd line
[06:45] <ara> tonyyarusso , hi
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Do them all at once.
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> ara: Hello.
[06:45] <salty> ok people. i have two webcams, one registers as v4l and the other as v4l2, both do not work
[06:45] <ara> tonyyarusso, have a question
[06:45] <salty> has anyone had any luck with webcams?
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> ara: Go ahead.
[06:46] <Toran> How do I set iptables to automatically start on boot?
[06:46] <holycow> there is no column 's'
[06:46] <holycow> oh there it is
[06:46] <ara> tonyyarusso, what's the command to take that little red "X" symbol off from a folder?
[06:46] <nemik> hello, i'm having a problem. i shut down the computer normally, but it now won't come back into gnome. login page looks fine and i log in, but box that show nautilus and stuff loading never comes up. :(
[06:46] <ColonelPanique> holycow : no column S in top?
[06:46] <corhere> i am having problems with ehci_hcd loading (with hotplug?) on startup and i would like to stop that. i added it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it didnt affect it. any suggestions?
[06:46] <jrattner1> What applications would people recomend for PERSONAL finance?
[06:46] <salty> gnu money heh
[06:46] <holycow> eh dpkg is labeled R then D iteratively ... let me look that up
[06:47] <Toma--> jrattner1: gnucash
[06:47] <jrattner1> Toma--, yeh? ok
[06:47] <PuRo> i downloaded network manager for my wireless management-during start-up it takes a while to load is there away to speed up the load process on it for my internet to be ready the moment im logging in?
[06:47] <Toran> How do I set iptables to automatically start on boot?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> ara: Not sure.  Ask the whole channel.
[06:48] <holycow> right, uninterruptable
[06:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: A red 'x' that covers the entire folder icon?
[06:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: It means you don't have read access to that folder.
[06:48] <nemik> does anyone know how i can fix this? it is just a blank screen with the brown wallpaper and i can move the mouse, but nothing else happens
[06:48] <ara> no it's just a little one
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, I think that was to you ^.
[06:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: I saw
[06:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: maybe it's my theme... for me that's the only one I've seen that looks like that >.<
[06:50] <ColonelPanique> holycow : so it is just sleeping, not a zombie- kill it with sudo killall -9 dpkg
[06:50] <intelikey> nemik ctrl+alt+backspace  will restart X for you, although that may not fix it.
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: But if I'm right, it means you don't have read access to the folder.
[06:50] <madewokherd> nemik: did you try the "failsafe gnome" session?
[06:50] <ara> PuMpErNiCkLe is there any command to make the permission?
[06:50] <intelikey> ara  chmod
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ara: Which means opening a terminal and doing 'sudo chown ara /path/to/folder'
[06:50] <holycow> ColonelPanique, unfortunately that doesn't work :/ process is still there
[06:51] <nemik> intelikey: i tried that, did not work
[06:51] <intelikey> ownership chown  permission chmod ara
[06:51] <nemik> madewokherd, thanks i'll try the failsafe gnome now
[06:51] <salty> holycow you gonna have to reboot, imho.
[06:51] <ColonelPanique> holycow : well it may be heading to zombie land soon enough then if -9 doesn't get it
[06:51] <intelikey> nemik failsafe  or single
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: I'm assuming it's not ara's to begin with - if it is, it'd just be chmod 600 /path
[06:52] <holycow> alrighty then ... how do i notify any and all users the machine is going down for a reboot?
[06:52] <ColonelPanique> holycow : wall
[06:52] <intelikey> although  you could drop to console and try to fix it from there
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> holycow: sudo reboot -n ;)
[06:52] <holycow> danke :)
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> holycow: NO
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> holycow: I was joking!
[06:52] <holycow> PuMpErNiCkLe, i'm aware of what y our line means :)
[06:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> w00t
[06:53] <nemik> intelikey: i tried CTL ALT F1 and i'm in a terminal. but /etc/init.d/gdm start to load gnome does not work
[06:53] <nemik> it fails
[06:53] <rhos> hey everyone i have installed both gtk-gnutella and frostwire but neither will open after intallation can anyone give me a few tips
[06:53] <intelikey> ! terminal     console
[06:53] <ubotu> intelikey: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: open a terminal, type gtk-gnutella , and give us any errors that show up
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, ColonelPanique: How could you put those messages through to XOSD for those not in terminals?
[06:54] <intelikey> nemik do a 'sudo killall gdm '    and use startx so you can see any errors it spews
[06:54] <rhos> ok
[06:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: There're programs that interract with X sessions... I've read about them somewhere...
[06:55] <rhos> gtk-gnutella: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Would anyone be willing to examine my gdm script to help me figure out why it breaks console switching?
[06:55] <daskog> Gona install Ubuntu Now...See you all on the other side =P
[06:55] <intelikey> paste it tony
[06:55] <nemik> intelikey, didn't see many errors but now the cursor is an X and background is strange...still nothing going on though
[06:56] <ara> intelikey, it's my filesystem folder, the folder that is connected to my second hard drive, i put it in /etc/fstab to automount it but now i don't have access to it :)!!!
[06:56] <heatxsink_> anyone in here have a saa7134 and cannot get tvtime working?
[06:56] <B-166_ER-X> i have some errors with amsn if someone can point me ...please ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6528
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: You're missing a library... open synaptic, search for libgtk, and install libgtk1.2
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: and libgtk1.2-common
[06:57] <rhos> ok thankyou
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: and libgtk1.2-dev
[06:57] <intelikey> nemik sounds like x is starting ok.  it is just your desktop env that is not doing what you want.  look in your home dir for .*rc  files and check which window manager or desktop is set
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: and that should cover it :)
[06:57] <nemik> intelikey: thanks i'll look at it
[06:58] <intelikey> ara ok.  lets see the tstab line
[06:58] <Jinkguns> I ask you, what the hell are kernel headers supposed to do? I thought they were for building 3rd party kernel modules without compiling a new kernel! But when I run make in the directory to create this module I get **No rule to make target 'usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/scripts/Makefile.modinst'
[06:58] <jrattner1> Is there any program, that will let me set my gnome desktop to a slideshow, SIMILARLY to KDE and its slideshow feature
[06:58] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, ok, so I am logged in, I can't seem to get the preview to work...
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, You mean changing the background?
[06:59] <Jinkguns> I'm running make in /usr/src/SRanger/modules-2.6.X/ in case anyone wants to try and help.
[06:59] <intelikey> nemik  .sessionrc   .wmrc  and the like.....
[06:59] <jrattner1> tonyyarusso, yeh, but so i can use a slideshow of photos that will change every once in a while
[06:59] <intelikey> or .Xsession
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Mine took a long time to load, but I'm on dialup.  You see files, and can right click, but the preview option does nothing?
[07:00] <nemik> intelikey: i'm trying a failsafe gnome now
[07:00] <nemik> ok, i think it is going now
[07:00] <fangorious> is there a gnome notification area applet for gnome-keyring, like the kwallet-manager?
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, I don't know if there is an existing easy way, but I do have instructions for a Gnome hack that will let you do that in a book, and if you really want I could pm those two pages to you.
[07:01] <jrattner1> tonyyarusso, yeh please
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Okay, here we go.
[07:01] <nemik> intelikey: so what is the difference between the 'last' and 'failsafe GNOME' sessions setting in GDM? why did failsafe work?
[07:01] <corhere> is there anybody out there who can help me with my question? any suggestions, sites, anything would be helpful. my question (to repeat) is how can i prevent ehci-hcd kernel module (usb2 controller) from loading at boot-time. I have tried putting ehci_hcd in /etc/hotplug/blacklist but it did not work.
[07:01] <jrattner1> There must be an easier way
[07:01] <ColonelPanique> Jinkguns : i think you need to install the actual kernel headers, ala: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:02] <rhos> another quick question is there any way to convert mpg to linux and .jpg to linux
[07:02] <madewokherd> I'm actually not sure what failsafe does
[07:02] <intelikey> last was not failsafe but next time last will be failsafe.   last is the last session you started.
[07:02] <madewokherd> I thought it just loaded a terminal :/
[07:02] <intelikey> nemik ^
[07:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: They should work perfectly well under linux
[07:02] <TTilus> corhere: dunno if bl doesnt help
[07:02] <fangorious> rhos: that doesn't make sense, what does convert mpg to linux mean?
[07:02] <jrattner1> thanx tonyyarusso
[07:02] <rhos> it says invalid fiel format but it may just be the disk im using is damaged
[07:03] <TTilus> corhere: you could try to lsmod and check what uses ehci_hcd and try to blacklist that one too
[07:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rhos: o_O
[07:03] <TTilus> corhere: dunno if it works though
[07:03] <rhos> thank you and have a good night all
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> rhos, Oh, they're plenty valid.  I use both frequently.
[07:03] <corhere> TTilus: that would be usbcore
[07:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> g'night rhos
[07:03] <holycow> heh, the flash plugin just asked me for permmission to allow a flash dealy on a site to access my webcam
[07:03] <holycow> *sigh*
[07:04] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i'm like you.  if it is in that file i fail to see it.
[07:04] <holycow> flash is the evil
[07:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> flash is best associated with flashblock :)
[07:04] <nemik> thanks intelikey, i think it should be ok now!
[07:04] <TTilus> corhere: umm, doesnt look like one to be blacklisted...  :(
[07:04] <B-166_ER-X> Seveas, I do have a problem that seem unsolvable to me, now.  I compiled amsn 0.95 but it had a problem (only run with sudo) so i purge'd it, and reinstalled 0.94 but now i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527 any idea or direction ?
[07:04] <ColonelPanique> do you guys smell that?
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Shoot.  I can gdm stop and use startx with console switching just fine, so I figured that must be it.
[07:05] <fangorious> how do i view access to my gnome-keyring?
[07:05] <henry> How do I run cpkg files?
[07:06] <corhere> TTilus: i figured that. maybe commenting out all (both) references to ehci in the /etc/hotplug/usb.rc file?
[07:06] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, yeah, the preview thing doesn't work...
[07:06] <henry> how do I run cpkg files?
[07:06] <holycow> thanks for you help guys, had to reboot :/
[07:06] <ara> intelikey: here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6529
[07:07] <corhere> TTilus: but the reference does a maybe_modprobe (func in the file that checks the blacklist first before modprobing)
[07:07] <TTilus> corhere: propably, havent ever tried that (blacklisting has worked)
[07:07] <intelikey> unless it is an error with start-stop-daemon tonyyarusso then i see nothing in that script that would normally cause such....   but have you tried loading the kernel with vga=0x0f05      it may be a framebuffering error.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> jdmpike, Hrm.  Not sure why.
[07:07] <intelikey> looking ara
[07:07] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, there is also no progress bar - that would be a nice feature...
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, No, I haven't.
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, It actually worked before, and I broke it, but was unable to determine how.
[07:08] <corhere> TTilus: i think i found the problem: modprobe treats - and _ the same, but the maybe_modprobe function in usb.rc doesn't
[07:08] <TTilus> corhere: have you checked logs to see if theres any traces of blacklisting working or not working
[07:08] <henry> CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO EXTRACT CPKG files via a terminal
[07:08] <corhere> TTilis: i think i found my own answer
[07:08] <intelikey> tonyyarusso :)    backups ?
[07:08] <intelikey> ara this line  '/dev/hdb1 /home/ara/mymedia ntfs' ?
[07:08] <TTilus> henry: what are "cpkg" files?  (you hurt my ears, btw)
[07:08] <fangorious> henry: perhaps noboy here knows what a cpkg file is. where did you get it?
[07:09] <ara> intelikey yesw
[07:09] <ara> yes
[07:09] <rhos> im back again sorry lol im trying to change my screen resolution but it only has one setting 640x480 could anyone tell me how to set it to 800x600 or better
[07:09] <intelikey> ara try adding  umask=222
[07:09] <TTilus> corhere: goodness, that sounds like bug
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Of what?  I don't have any idea what changed or when, so I've got nothing that I know of useful.
[07:09] <corhere> TTilus if i knew more with batch-scripting, i would submit a patch
[07:10] <ara> intelikey, no
[07:10] <corhere> i meant bash scripting
[07:10] <henry> fangorious its from wine
[07:10] <intelikey> ara after you add the  umask   then do a 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /home/ara/mymedia '
[07:10] <ara> intelikey, when i mount it manually i put umask=1000 to make it work , but that even didn't work here
[07:10] <henry> how do I run a manifest?
[07:11] <fangorious> henry: do you mean you downloaded a cpkg file from the wine website?
[07:11] <corhere> henry: a google search brings up that a cpkg is a "coolpacker" install package
[07:11] <henry> corhere how would I run that?
[07:11] <nemik> thanks intelikey and others for your help!
[07:11] <nemik> goodnight guys!
[07:12] <corhere> henry you would set the executable flag on it (chmod u+x file) and run it (./file)
[07:12] <ara> intelikey, nothing happened
[07:12] <intelikey> ah tonyyarusso i still sujest framebuffering as the cause.    when you said "you broke it" i thoungt you meant the gdm script it's self.
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Well, I really don't know what I did, just that one day I could switch consoles with gdm running.
[07:13] <Jinkguns> Where do I get the ./configure in /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh ? What package is it?
[07:13] <henry> how do you run manifests?
[07:14] <fangorious> henry: a manifest being a listing of the contents of something (like your cpkg file)?
[07:14] <TTilus> henry: have you checked if the cpkg'd software could be found from ubuntu repos or maybe as deb from elsewhere?
[07:14] <michael> how do i install .deb, .tar.gz, and .tgz files?
[07:14] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i think i have had this happen when X was using fb to access the display,  booting with vga=0   or  vga=0x0f05  will tell you if that is it or not.
[07:14] <XiCillin> anybody do ham radio stuff?
[07:14] <corhere> michael: for deb files dpkg -i debfile
[07:15] <michael> for .tgz?
[07:15] <henry> fangorious it says it has a link to a tgz file
[07:15] <fangorious> michael: tar -xvzf file.tgz
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, I'll try that next time I boot.  If it is, what's the fix?
[07:15] <TTilus> michael: first check if its available as deb, maybe from ubuntu repo
[07:15] <michael> ty
[07:15] <corhere> michael: you could also open it in archive manager in GNOME
[07:15] <Phinite> I have an ntfs xp box.  I need to repartition the drive to a smaller size without blowing away the system.  I've booted to a live ubuntu (5.04) but can't find a partitioning tool on the disk itself.  can someone help with this please
[07:16] <intelikey> michael  'tar -xzvf file.tgz  ;cd file ;ls '  and read everything in the files in all caps.
[07:16] <TTilus> michael: to continue fangorious, then cd pkg; make; make install
[07:16] <michael> that it?
[07:16] <TTilus> michael: what did you expect?
[07:17] <VitorBeltrao> How can I unstall Ubuntu and grumb?
[07:17] <fangorious> henry: you're being really vague. you ran some application in wine, which produced a cpkg file, and now you have a manifest which says it has a link to a tgz file. is that right?
[07:17] <michael> I figured it would be confusing
[07:17] <TTilus> michael: furious copy-parties, tap-dancing and quiz-games?
[07:17] <intelikey> TTilus what about a ./configure   or even  a  ./userinstall.sh   or the many helper scripts that coder add ?
[07:17] <fangorious> TTilus: I just assumed a tgz would be more like a slackware binary archive, you just untar it where you want to install it
[07:18] <TTilus> michael: after extracting the package and reading info you _could_ very well be confused  :)
[07:18] <VitorBeltrao> How can I uninstall Ubuntu and grumb?
[07:18] <TTilus> intelikey: mmm, i stand corrected
[07:18] <michael> well, i'm going for cedega
[07:18] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  i'm about to give up and have to format...for a aMSN error (well, i still HAVE to make it work)   i'm not trying to just make work my 0.94 version...buti get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6527   ..
[07:18] <fangorious> michael: i suggest either searching in synaptic or 'apt-cache search' for relevant keywords to see if a package exists in the repositories
[07:19] <aran> alright someone help me get this installed. i can't boot from the CD but i could boot from floppy given the right floppy
[07:19] <michael> already looked, i was going to try crossover office, but the cost for cedega is better, and better for games - mostly what i want
[07:19] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: "uninstall"?
[07:19] <VitorBeltrao> yes
[07:20] <intelikey> fangorious i concour, michael also be sure you have universe and multiverse repos enabled.
[07:20] <liable> VitorBeltrao: delete the partition and run fixmbr from windows disk
[07:20] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: like what are you going to do?
[07:20] <intelikey> !repos
[07:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[07:20] <fangorious> michael: and cedega doesn't come with installation instructions?
[07:20] <odat> gnome rocks!
[07:20] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: install another os?
[07:20] <aran> please, someone help aran
[07:20] <michael> i didn't look, i want to learn how to install every other file i come across
[07:20] <VitorBeltrao> TTilus, well i delete the partition but i cant not enter in windows after...
[07:21] <fangorious> VitorBeltrao: installing ubuntu would be more like formatting the partition it's installed on
[07:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: If you search online, you can find floppy disk images that will let you do a network install.
[07:21] <aran> aran seeks attention.
[07:21] <fangorious> VitorBeltrao: assuming windows 2k or xp, boot off the windows install cd, go into the repair console, and run 'fixmbr' and 'fixboot'
[07:21] <TTilus> VitorBeltrao: see liable's help
[07:21] <aran> yeah but i don't have a server to do a network install from
[07:22] <B-166_ER-X> !amsnnotworkingatallandimabouttoformatthispc
[07:22] <ubotu> B-166_ER-X: Not a clue
[07:22] <intelikey> aran we know that.  but the 'non-cdrom' installs are slim in ub
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> oops
[07:22] <aran> ideally there'd be a bootloader with a CDROM driver, but i couldn't find one
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> sorry
[07:22] <B-166_ER-X> guessed so
[07:22] <TTilus> aran: you can start install from floppy and give cd as package repo
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> TTilus, ok thanks
[07:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: If you have highspeed (dsl or cable or something) you can do an install from the official servers.
[07:22] <gz> edit boot.ini
[07:22] <fangorious> aran, you don't need your own server, just a net connection
[07:22] <VitorBeltrao> fangorious, thanks...
[07:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: That's how I installed a couple BSD distros.
[07:23] <aran> so it doesn't help me any to have it downloaded and burned...
[07:23] <nurfe> http://rapidshare.de/files/10296963/Screenshot.png.html /w xfwm4 :)
[07:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: Possibly it does, this is the solution I'm most familiar with. :)
[07:23] <fangorious> aran, there should be a floppy image on the cd that you can use
[07:23] <intelikey> fangorious have you looked ?
[07:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: What fangorious said. ^^
[07:24] <trappist> cool, kernel 2.6.15 just rolled out
[07:24] <aran> fangorious:is there!? any idea where?
[07:24] <fangorious> intelikey: i haven't had a floppy in any of my machines for like 2 years, so i haven't looked for them in quite a while
[07:24] <jdmpike> tonyyarusso, thanks for the program, it is a pretty slick interface... I don't know why apple hasn't realeased a 'nix version of itunes... after all MAC is 99.9% unix
[07:25] <corhere> aran: there is this app called smart boot manager, its a bootfloppy where you can select which drive, even cd drives, to continue to boot from
[07:25] <aran> smart boot manager
[07:25] <aran> that's a start
[07:25] <corhere> aran: site http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[07:25] <aran> thanks
[07:26] <corhere> you just boot off the floppy, select cd-rom drive and you're going
[07:26] <aran> nice.
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, I can't help you with the amsn thing, but formatting it all sounds a little drastic.
[07:26] <XiCillin> anybody use gnome predict?
[07:26] <aran> too bad thath tthing doesn't have a higher pagerank
[07:26] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  i know. but i really dont have any idea,...and nobody can help :\
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Couldn't you track down all of it's files and delete those rather than formatting everything?
[07:27] <fangorious> i have mail-notification installed, and it sometimes asks for my gnome-keyring passphrase, but no always. It seems very inconsistent and Ive come to realise I have no indication at any given time as to what is accessing my keyring. anyone know of anything resembling KDE's kwallet-manager to list keyrings and what applications are accessing which data?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, All right, that's done.
[07:28] <michael> DANG - so, is thier any wiki to help explain how linux works? like how things are installed and how they run - and how data is stored, like in the windows registry?
[07:28] <michael> crap like that??
[07:29] <Imsdle> I am trying to setup firestarter using a dialup modem and a lan card. I get sit0 not ready. What is sit0 and how can I select my modem?
[07:29] <Imsdle> btw this is for internet charing
[07:29] <Imsdle> sharing
[07:29] <zzzzzzzzzzzzzz> hi
[07:29] <intelikey> michael rute
[07:29] <fangorious> michael: linux doesn't really have a windows registry, gnome has something xml based called gconf
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> michael, Applications > System > Configuration Editor looks like it resembles the Windows registry to me.
[07:30] <fangorious> michael: applications are installed any number of ways, for ubuntu the best way is to use deb packages (handled with the dpkg command line tool) using dependency trackers like apt (command line) and synaptic (gui)
[07:31] <Aven> hey
[07:31] <intelikey> do a websearch  for 'rute'  it's the big book on linux
[07:31] <fangorious> michael: they also aren't generally installed to a single folder (like \Program Files\Application) but spread out (binaries in /usr/bin, libraries in /usr/lib, config files in /etc)
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> michael, apt-get is seriously sweet, btw.
[07:31] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: it certainly is
[07:31] <Imsdle> anyone used firestarter for internet sharing or can show me how to share my dail up internet connection on ubuntu?>
[07:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: so long as they have what you want in the repositories ;)
[07:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Imsdle: Have you checked to make sure the interface is activated?
[07:32] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe yeah i mean with only 11000 packages to choose from.....
[07:32] <michael> how to uninstall programs installed via a tarball?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, But it still amazes me how many things were there.  There were a bunch that I first went off looking for, and then discovered in the repos after all.
[07:33] <fangorious> michael: do you mean a tar file you extracted, compiled and installed (source tarball) or one you just extracted and started running (binary tarball)?
[07:33] <intelikey> michael  'tar -xzvf <file>.tgz  ;cd <file> ;ls '  and read everything in the files in all caps.
[07:33] <Imsdle> the network is activated... and i can ping and share files betweeen the pcs
[07:33] <michael> installed
[07:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: true, but not always the latest, and not always working
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Is that whole book online, or are those only parts of it?
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, Granted.
[07:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: ex: BZflag won't work when compiled with GCC4, which is what's in the repository.
[07:34] <fangorious> michael: if you installed it with 'make install' try 'make uninstall'
[07:34] <michael> ty
[07:34] <aran> corhere: smart boot manager doesn't see the CD drive, know of any others?
[07:35] <michael> gnight all - and thanks for putting up with me?
[07:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: I had more fun compiling it myself than playing it :D
[07:35] <intelikey> tonyyarusso it used to be avalable in most distros  so surely you can find a full copy of it on line some place  it's about  40m
[07:35] <corhere> aran: it doesn't? i don't know of any others. sorry.
[07:35] <corhere> you would have to use the uuntu bootfloppy
[07:35] <fangorious> aran: have you looked for a folder called images (or something similar) with a bunch of .bin files on the cd you burned?
[07:36] <aran> images
[07:36] <aran> sec
[07:37] <fangorious> aran: this might be relevant: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[07:37] <fangorious> not sure though, perhaps boot.img.gz is what you're looking for
[07:38] <aran> thanks for the link
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> What's an IPv6 Tunnel (sit0), in terms of firestarter setup?
[07:39] <fangorious> aran: i think this is the breezy install manual, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch02s02.html#id2514428
[07:40] <aran> ok that netboot folder is also on the cd... how do i turn it into a floppy?
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> Can I boot from an ISO for a bootable CD that is saved on the hard disk?
[07:41] <fli7e> tonyyarusso, not to my knowledge
[07:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: If you use qemu, yes.
[07:41] <intelikey> aran there is a w32 app 'rawwrite'   all linux systems have 'dd'
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, Okay.
[07:42] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  any idea how can i 'trace' all amsn files and uninstall/install them by hand ?
[07:42] <shade11> Is there an mp3 encoder for BMP???
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, All I'd guess is search for amsn and delete its directories.
[07:42] <sethk> B-166_ER-X, if you mean by name, then you can use find
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> B-166_ER-X: not that I know, specifically, but you can search for 'amns' and search for files created on the same day...
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *amsn
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> that should cover most of it
[07:43] <trappist> if you installed the package, you could dpkg -L amsn
[07:43] <B-166_ER-X> is there a way to search for hidden file with the 'search' app ?
[07:44] <sethk> B-166_ER-X, the find command finds hidden files
[07:44] <sethk> B-166_ER-X, you don't have to do anything special
[07:44] <trappist> B-166_ER-X: hidden files in linux start with . so, find /path -name '.??*' (to omit . and ..)
[07:44] <Hollywood> Hello all!
[07:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> B-166_ER-X: If you're using the GUI, yes, there's an option.
[07:44] <Hollywood> Wow lots of people here.  I'm new to this.
[07:45] <Imsdle> has anyone here configured ubuntu to share a dail up connection for internet sharing
[07:45] <intelikey>    find ~/ -name '*amsn*'   ;find /usr -name '*amsn*'
[07:45] <weekang> how do i configure a daemon to run on startup in ubuntu?
[07:45] <B-166_ER-X> finded it
[07:45] <B-166_ER-X> thx
[07:45] <trappist> intelikey: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[07:45] <aran> rawwrite still needs an img file
[07:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> B-166_ER-X: Places menu / search for files / more options /drop down menu -> show hidden files
[07:45] <Hollywood> <--- wants to know how to chnage refresh rate?
[07:45] <trappist> Hollywood: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:45] <intelikey> trappist is that something i need to look at ?
[07:45] <Hollywood> Thanks butI have no clue what that means.  :(
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> Interesting...Just installed and ran firestarter.  In the last few minutes it's logged 23 serious inbounds.  Can someone help me understand what it's seeing?
[07:46] <Hollywood> Windows convert.  :(
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> (Most of them relate to samba)
[07:46] <trappist> intelikey: no, it's my stupid tab complete again
[07:46] <trappist> Imsdle: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/scripts/ics
[07:46] <intelikey> k   np
[07:46] <Hollywood> Just copy and paste that somewhere?
[07:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: open a terminal and paste it
[07:47] <Hollywood> Hmmm...
[07:47] <Hollywood> opena terminal huh?
[07:47] <Hollywood> OK brb
[07:47] <shade11> what was it that I had to apt-get in order to install from shell?
[07:47] <sethk> tonyyarusso, most of them will be spurious
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Why?
[07:47] <shade11> nvm
[07:47] <sethk> shade11, nothing
[07:47] <sethk> tonyyarusso, because it isn't terribly intelligent
[07:47] <Hollywood> How do I open a terminal?
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Okay...
[07:48] <Imsdle> thanks trappist..
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> sethk: The IP address belong to my ISP, but aren't mine.
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: It should be under Applications/Accessories
[07:48] <Hollywood> Found it!
[07:48] <starscalling> ah
[07:48] <Hollywood> You're a genius!
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :D
[07:48] <starscalling> vewwy fresh install of ubuntu here
[07:48] <starscalling> :D
[07:48] <timfrost> PuMpErNiCkLe,Hollywood should use pastebin
[07:48] <starscalling> !sources
[07:48] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> timfrost: pastebin?
[07:48] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I'm not sure what you are driving at (w.r.t. the IP address ownership)
[07:48] <intelikey> hollywood   a login console is already waiting on   [ctrl] +[alt] +[F1-6] 
[07:48] <starscalling> !hoary guide
[07:48] <ubotu> starscalling: Not a clue
[07:49] <timfrost> ubotu tell PuMpErNiCkLe about pastebin
[07:49] <intelikey> assumes default inittab
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Wondering if it tells me anything.  Curious about what it's logging and why.
[07:49] <sethk> tonyyarusso, if you want you can put it on the paste bot.  I'll look and I'm sure other people will as well
[07:49] <Hollywood> How much memory should I give my card?
[07:49] <Hollywood> 16?
[07:49] <Hoxzer> eh
[07:49] <Hoxzer> ;)
[07:50] <hydroksyde> hmmm... maybe i'll actually start a GNUStubuntu project (ubuntu with a GNUStep desktop)... but with a better name
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Is there an easy way to copy from it, or do I have to retype it all?
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> timfrost: sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: That depends on the card.
[07:50] <sethk> tonyyarusso, edit the file in a gui editor (gedit, gvim, whatever), and paste it into the entry area of a paste bot web page
[07:50] <Hoxzer> Do you guys know what should I do to get my sounds work with multiple softwares as now they work with only one program at the time
[07:50] <sethk> Hoxzer, run a sound server
[07:50] <vega-> hm, seems eclipse doesn't work very well in breezy
[07:51] <Hoxzer> sethk: how?
[07:51] <vega-> you cannot even install plugins unless you are root
[07:51] <sethk> Hoxzer, it's probably already there.  I use kde, and theirs is artsd.  the one for gnome has a different name, someone?
[07:51] <Hoxzer> I dont think so
[07:52] <sethk> Hoxzer, you don't think it is there?  I mean on the disk, not there running
[07:52] <Detective> There a place where I can find system requirements for Ubuntu?
[07:52] <sethk> Hoxzer, the gnome one is snd, I believe
[07:52] <Hoxzer> sethk: yes, it is not running
[07:52] <Hoxzer> I dunno how to put it on
[07:53] <sethk> Hoxzer, unfortunately I don't know how to start it with the gui, only from the command line.  But someone here will know.
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> sethk and others: My firestarter list is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6530
[07:53] <Hoxzer> sethk: well tell me how to do it with command line
[07:53] <sri> anybody know how I can get something started from init as another user?
[07:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Detective: Ubuntu will run on any 386 or higher chip (486, pentium, AMD, etc.)
[07:53] <Hoxzer> I can do it with virtual command line?
[07:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Detective: It just won't run well. ;)
[07:53] <Hollywood> Once I change refresh do I need to reboot?  Its still npt showing up as an option.
[07:53] <sri> secondly, I can't seem to get breezy to exec xdm after installing breezy in server mode
[07:53] <Detective> Anything special with memory, hardware, etc., besides making sure drivers for things are in order?
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> Detective, If you intend to have a desktop client with X, they say 128M RAM, 2G hard drive, server is I think half the RAM, quarter disk.
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Hollywood: Restart the X server by hitting ctl-alt-backspace (note: this will quit all running graphical applications.)
[07:54] <Detective> Right.
[07:54] <sethk> tonyyarusso, as I think you noticed, it is flagging all the windows (samba, of course, here) metadata ports
[07:54] <B-166_ER-X> okayyy : i search and deleted (after a full uninstall ) for 'amsn' files, and deleted a /usr/share/amsn folder, then reinstalled it and ...... wow : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6531
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Yeah.
[07:54] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I suppose the idea is that they are LAN packets and shouldn't be transferred between the LAN and the internet
[07:54] <theArthur> how do i cause a program to be run at boot? what is ubuntu for /etc/init.d/local.start?
[07:55] <Detective> Kind of moot right now, since I still need to get a good computer besides this budget comp. I don't think it could run DOS steadily.
[07:55] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe so what is special about ubuntu that it can't preform like other linux distros on i386 arch ?
[07:55] <Hollywood> thanks
[07:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, but judging by the IPs there is nothing wrong here
[07:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, because source and dest are on the same subnet
[07:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: It uses Gnome by default... can you imagine Gnome on a 386? >_<
[07:55] <WebLOCH> Detective that would have more to do with the construction of DOS, than your computer
[07:55] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I think the ppp encapsulation connfuses it
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Okay, that much makes sense.  My real question is, where are the requests coming from?  (There shouldn't be anyone trying to access those shares right now.)
[07:55] <Detective> Well, it's an eMachines thing my parents bought two years ago, so it can't do much of anything. XD
[07:55] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe i can see it on a p1 as we speek
[07:56] <sethk> I don't know what machines those IPs correspond to, probably you do.  If you are on one of those machines, you can use lsof or netstat to find out which process is using those ports
[07:56] <sethk> tonyyarusso, do you have any bridges in your network?
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> Don't know what that means, sethk.
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, bridges, you mean?
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Right.
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, a bridge makes two subnets act as a single subnet
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> sethk: And how would I have acquired such a thing?
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, so with a bridge you'll see LAN traffic spanning multiple subnets
[07:57] <sethk> tonyyarusso, same way as a router
[07:58] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you buy one, or configure a *nix box to be one
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> sethk: (One machine using very basic dialup, dialed in with wvdial)
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> sethk: No configuration done on my part.
[07:58] <sethk> tonyyarusso, ok, that's what you meant by the IPs belonging to your ISP
[07:58] <WebLOCH> Anyone want to help me get sensors running, I've had quite a few problems, Im beginning to think its due to my hardware..?
[07:58] <sethk> tonyyarusso, without access to those machines, there isn't any way to determine what process is sending them.
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Right.  A whois #### points to them, that's all I know.
[07:59] <sethk> tonyyarusso, remember that, with ppp, you are essentially a part of their network, and the ppp bridge is transparent
[07:59] <sethk> tonyyarusso, so to the other machines on their network, you appear to be local
[07:59] <sethk> tonyyarusso, that's what I mean about the firewall thing being stupid.  It should be smart enough to deal with ppp encapsulation
[07:59] <sethk> tonyyarusso, it's not like ppp is some rare thing.
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> sethk: All right.  So what about the connection from 221.12.161.110, which whoises to something is Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China?
[08:01] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe forgive the 'pet pieve' but it kinda pisses me off when i see people tell others what their hardware cant use 'linux' becaues it is to old/slow/small and then i look and see that the box in question would easily run laps around this one i'm using and it preforms adaquitly for what i want it to do.   p1133 64m ram and 1g hdd   running linux with kde & mozilla    it just bites to read that a p2/3 500mhz 256m ram 
[08:01] <intelikey> that's p1 133  ^
[08:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: true
[08:02] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I don't see that address in what you pasted.
[08:02] <sethk> tonyyarusso, is it a connection, or just a packet?
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: I collect older 'spare' hardware from other people.
[08:02] <sethk> paste the log line for it.  It's ok to paste a single line.
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: But still... a 386? o_O
[08:02] <WebLOCH> Anyone at all want to hellllp a brother out with his sensors?
[08:03] <usernewbie> how can I check how much of free space do I have on HardDrive?
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Might be a new one, it's picking up all kinds of stuff as we speak.    How do I tell the difference between a connection and a packet?
[08:03] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe i run linux on a 486 lappy  does that count ?
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> WebLOCH: No... I don't want to go there again >_<
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: With Gnome?
[08:03] <intelikey> PuMpErNiCkLe non-X
[08:03] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you can't, looking only at the packet (unless it is part of the connection handshake).  But netstat -a will show you connections
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> intelikey: ah - then it's an excellent box :)
[08:04] <timfrost> usernewbie, in a terminal type 'df -k'.  That shows the free space for each mounted file system
[08:04] <intelikey> yes i upgraded from windows95 to linux 2.4  and am well pleased with it.
[08:04] <intelikey> :)
[08:05] <odat> anyone know if http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl  is an actual functioning repository?
[08:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> WebLOCH: I still get nightmares from trying to debug that problem.
[08:05] <usernewbie> timfrost: why I can not mount floppydrive?
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> seth_k: I don't see a connection to it.
[08:05] <usernewbie> timfrost: can not read file from it
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> odat: Yeah, it is.
[08:06] <odat> tonyyarusso, hmmm then it must be down right now cuz i'm unable to access it
[08:06] <WebLOCH> PuMpErNiCkLe, its annoying, i cant overclock again until  the  sensors work, but for some reason no-one knows why they wont.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> Is there a list of what various port numbers might be used for somewhere?
[08:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> WebLOCH: 'fraid I can't help much
[08:07] <odat> tonyyarusso, is it down for you too or do i have the wrong address?
[08:07] <timfrost> usernewbie, I have no idea.
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> What's a UDP protocol?  (As opposed to TCP)
[08:08] <polpak> tonyyarusso, it's DGRAM rather than STREAM
[08:08] <FlannelKing> UDP is stateless, unlike TCP
[08:08] <FlannelKing> no handshakes or the like
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> polpak, FlannelKing: Can that be dumbed down at all?
[08:08] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: TCP is a 5 star restaurant, UDP is all-you-can-eat
[08:08] <polpak> tonyyarusso, like the difference between a mail vs a phone call
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: It's a protocol that doesn't do error checking.
[08:09] <odat> anyone able to check http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl repository to see if its actually down or if its something on my end
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> Thanks all.  That sort of makes sense.
[08:09] <cafuego> polpak: or between throwing and catching a bal versus a cannon
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: It's more light-weight, for use when it doesn't matter if you get all teh data, or if you have a really reliable network.
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> odat, I'm having trouble with it.  Was fine earlier today.
[08:09] <aran> OK so i've got rawwrite, the ubuntu cd, syslinux, a non-booting CD drive, and a ton of useless docs. can i install ubuntu?
[08:09] <globe> UDP doesnt force the second party to respond -- it just assumes that the packet was recieved
[08:10] <polpak> tonyyarusso, it's an inherantly unreliable protocol. It's used when it doesn't matter if you get all the data, or if you don't care what order you get the data in
[08:10] <phyberoptix> yo
[08:10] <sri> can someone help me with a wireless problem?
[08:10] <phyberoptix> anyone here
[08:10] <globe> sri: whats the prob
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> sethk: The blocked connections from the Chinese IP were UDP, length 485, port 1026, fyi.
[08:11] <WebLOCH> polpak, thats  not true, its  often used in environments where low traffic overheads are necessary, and  the programmers write their own failsafes into the application logic
[08:11] <sri> globe: for some reason I can't seem to get /etc/network/interface to set my wireless essid correctly
[08:11] <polpak> sri, no meta questions pls.. Just ask your question. if someone can help, they will
[08:11] <sri> polpak: alrighty
[08:11] <phyberoptix> chk it when i am in gnome i can mute the sound with my kb but in fluxbox my sound is muted and i cant unmute it with the kb
[08:11] <sethk> tonyyarusso, 1026 is not a reserved port.
[08:11] <odat> tonyyarusso, i just disable it for now
[08:11] <globe> sri: try iwconfig eth* ap any
[08:11] <sethk> tonyyarusso, udp packets are typically streams, like audio
[08:11] <sri> globe: what does that do?
[08:12] <sri> globe: bind to any ap out there?
[08:12] <globe> sri: that lets your wifi card .... yes
[08:12] <sri> globe: what would I need to put in my interface file? wireless-ap any?
[08:12] <globe> sri: or, you can do iwconfig eth* essid "name-o-access-pt"
[08:13] <sri> globe: yeah, all that works.
[08:13] <sri> globe: it doesn't work when I boot
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> sethk: Where could I find instructions advising what sort of things should be allowed and what blocked?
[08:13] <phyberoptix> hmmmmm
[08:13] <sri> globe: it's a usb wireless thingee using the zd1218 driver.
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: Can you unmute it in fluxbox any other way?
[08:13] <WebLOCH> Does anyone here have trouble getting programs to open with a specific application from nautilus?
[08:13] <phyberoptix> thats the thing
[08:13] <phyberoptix> i dont see where its muted
[08:13] <jrattner1> Anyone know of a program that will change the background of the gnome desktop similarly to the slideshow feature KDE has
[08:13] <sethk> tonyyarusso, I don't have a good url for that.  I'm sure there are several, but I've been doing this for so long that I haven't looked at them.
[08:14] <aran> aran would like help if possible
[08:14] <sri> globe: when it boots up the essid is set to None, and I have to set it by hand.... if I try to do ifup wlan0 it gives me some kind of can't set error.
[08:14] <phyberoptix> i know its got to be simple
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> sethk: All right, do you have any quick-start suggestions then?
[08:14] <sri> iwconfig wlan0 ap any fails too.
[08:14] <theArthur> how can i have a program run at boot?
[08:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: Have you run alsamixer to see what's muted and what isn't?
[08:14] <polpak> tonyyarusso, generally, security is done as "What services will people need to be able to access, and who specifically should access them.. Deny anything else"
[08:14] <globe> sri: got me...I dont know anything about that driver.....
[08:14] <odat> gnome rocks!
[08:15] <aran> someone help aran create an installer bootdisk
[08:15] <WebLOCH> When is dapper final realease?
[08:15] <WebLOCH> !dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[08:15] <Imsdle> I have a dailup Internet and I want to share this connection. Can anyone tell me how to configure the iptables to a ppp connection
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> WebLOCH, April.
[08:15] <globe> sri: have you looked in the network configuration in X?
[08:15] <WebLOCH> tonyyarusso, cheers
[08:15] <phyberoptix> it says its off
[08:15] <phyberoptix> how can i turn it on
[08:16] <sri> globe: I've installed it in server mode, building a mythtv box.
[08:16] <theconartist> can anyone point me to a good list of 5.10 apt repo's?
[08:16] <odat> Imsdle, you want to share a dial up connection   ouch
[08:16] <intelikey> !repos
[08:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:16] <sri> globe: it's really strange and I don't understand how to get it to wrok consistently.
[08:16] <odat> sri, did you check out knopmyth  or something like that
[08:16] <timfrost> tonyyarusso, best start is deny all inbound, but let outbound traffic out. Add explicit traffic  to inbound if it is required
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: use the arrows to pick the channel, hit 'm' to mute/unmute
[08:17] <Imsdle> Odat.. some of us do not have the luxury of technology in some parts of the world
[08:17] <phyberoptix> m
[08:17] <phyberoptix> ffs
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phyberoptix: up/down arrows adjust volume, I think
[08:17] <phyberoptix> lol
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol
[08:17] <theconartist> !easysource
[08:17] <ubotu> easysource is probably For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:17] <odat> Imsdle, understood and i hope the technology comes to you soon
[08:17] <phyberoptix> i told you
[08:17] <phyberoptix> something that simple
[08:17] <theconartist> intelikey, dont help me much :/ i already have those enabled
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Glad to help :)
[08:17] <globe> sri: got me....sorry
[08:17] <phyberoptix> all\\\\\\\\\\ty
[08:18] <phyberoptix> *ty
[08:18] <Imsdle> SAme.... in the mean time.. do youi have any ideas on how to do this. Firestarted soesn't work and is just a pain i the arse
[08:18] <WebLOCH> Can anyone recommend a good text for understanding the divisions of the filesystem?  (Like /bin and /usr etc etc)?
[08:18] <sri> globe: no worries, I'll keep trying.
[08:18] <intelikey> theconartist yeah it is kinda skimppy on the number of packages.... only about 8000 or something
[08:18] <globe> sri: good luck
[08:18] <polpak> WebLOCH, the filesystem heirarchy standard?
[08:19] <odat> Imsdle, no sorry never tried connection sharing of any kind
[08:19] <WebLOCH> polpak, is that a joke or a serious recommendation or a question?
[08:19] <B1zz> has anyone installed Legends on ubuntu?
[08:19] <theconartist> intelikey, :p
[08:19] <polpak> WebLOCH, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/
[08:19] <WebLOCH> polpak, great stuff, thanks!
[08:19] <polpak> WebLOCH, a suggestion
[08:20] <WebLOCH> polpak, a simplified version of this might go down well as an introduction document to booting up linux the first time
[08:21] <polpak> WebLOCH, perhaps
[08:21] <theconartist> intelikey, i don't see enlightenment e16 in there though :/
[08:21] <polpak> WebLOCH, but most ppl just want things to "work"
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> What are the services "DCOM-scm" and "uPNP"?
[08:21] <WebLOCH> polpak, true enough
[08:21] <polpak> WebLOCH, if you really want to know how linux works (guts wise) you should check out "Linux from Scratch"
[08:21] <intelikey> so Imsdle you in NZ ?
[08:21] <theconartist> intelikey, is it in any of those, or am i having problems with apt?
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> Ports 135 and 5000.
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> If I could look up ports in a list somewhere, that would be great.  Anyone have a link?
[08:22] <intelikey> !info enlightenment
[08:22] <ubotu> enlightenment: (The Enlightenment Window Manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 1:0.16.6-3ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 436 kB, Installed size: 1168 kB
[08:22] <WebLOCH> polpak, i have some linux docu from uni, i just wanted a quick reference, imabout to start partitioning so I can organise what data gets formatted and when, rather than the whole load
[08:22] <polpak> tonyyarusso, http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/randz/protocol/upnp.asp
[08:23] <intelikey> that's 16 is it not ^
[08:23] <liable> theres a list in /etc/services
[08:23] <theconartist> intelikey, yes, but apt wont recognize it for me
[08:23] <theconartist> intelikey, how do i clear everything?
[08:23] <theconartist> im not very familiar with apt :/
[08:23] <dandielionous> hello
[08:24] <dandielionous> Does anyone know what the financial program is for kubuntu?
[08:24] <intelikey> theconartist apt-get clean && apt-get update
[08:24] <theconartist> intelikey, ty
[08:24] <timfrost> theconartis, try command  'apt-cache search enlightenment
[08:24] <timfrost> '
[08:24] <intelikey> theconartist usdo them of course
[08:25] <theconartist> timfrost, i already know that
[08:25] <dandielionous> I finally got kubuntu installed.  Just taking the easy way out by asking that question.
[08:25] <theconartist> intelikey, my problem was i had the e17 repo setup before
[08:25] <vega-> dandielionous: /j kubuntu
[08:25] <vega-> someone might know better there
[08:25] <starscalling> well
[08:25] <starscalling> on the upside
[08:25] <dandielionous> okaaaay
[08:25] <starscalling> im getting rather good at ubuntu installs >_<
[08:25] <dandielionous> ty vega
[08:27] <Imsdle> YUP
[08:27] <Imsdle> Intelikey im in nz
[08:27] <theconartist> poo poo
[08:27] <theconartist> "E: Package enlightenment has no installation candidate
[08:27] <theconartist> "
[08:28] <atha_> halo
[08:28] <theconartist> intelikey, now what could it be? :(
[08:28] <intelikey> Imsdle yes i just noticed the comment about lack of high tech. *  and got curious.
[08:29] <intelikey> theconartist you did remove the e17 already ?
[08:29] <atha_> I has download vmwarepalyer from it website. I has installed at my ubuntu. but know I conpuse how to use it. any body can hel me please...
[08:29] <theconartist> intelikey, yes
[08:30] <Imsdle> in the woops.. about 20minuts from hobbiton :D
[08:30] <Imsdle> an no im not a realation and i wan't in the film.. and no i dont' know peter jackson
[08:30] <Imsdle> :|
[08:30] <Imsdle> I have a dailup Internet and I want to share this connection. Can anyone tell me how to configure the iptables to a ppp connection
[08:30] <Imsdle> anyone?
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Imsdle, Well, it's quite obvious I don't know how to use it yet, but firestarter did have a "share connection" thing in its wizard.
[08:32] <intelikey> theconartist idk.  man apt-get    or man aptitude  one of them should be able to force a down grade install of it, assuming the /etc/apt/sources.list is correct with universe enabled.
[08:32] <Imsdle> i know.. but i can't get it to see my modem and I don't know how to configure the ipv6 thingy
[08:33] <brett> Hell all thanks for your help - got my refresh rate fixed!
[08:33] <theconartist> intelikey, i dont have it e17 or the repo installed
[08:33] <daskog> now
[08:33] <daskog> how can i fix the resolution on my Ubuntu install? im using a Geforce 7800 Gtx
[08:34] <intelikey> Imsdle search google.com/linux for 'quicktables'  a script that helps you write an iptables script.    it may be what you need.
[08:34] <daskog> i can only get max 1024x768
[08:34] <polpak> daskog, have you installed the nvidia driver?
[08:34] <odat> daskog, did you install the nvidia glx driver in synaptic
[08:34] <intelikey> theconartist then we are back to the repos setting in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <daskog> yes
[08:35] <daskog> what do i do now
[08:35] <Kindred> I don't suppose anyone knows how I stop my ntfs partition from putting an icon on the desktop? I still want to keep the cd/usb drives on there though.. hmmm
[08:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Open a terminal and write 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[08:35] <odat> daskog, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:35] <timfrost> Imsdle, you can probably ignore IPV6, unless you have an ISP that supports it (telecom doesn't).
[08:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: I win ;)
[08:35] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, lol
[08:35] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, but i answered twice lol
[08:35] <aran> someone help me out
[08:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: dammit ;)
[08:35] <aran> please
[08:36] <odat> aran, with?
[08:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> aran: What's the question?
[08:36] <aran> i want to make a boot floppy
[08:36] <odat> gotcha
[08:36] <aran> i'm in windows
[08:36] <aran> can't boot from CD
[08:36] <odat> aran, a linux boot floppy
[08:36] <aran> ideally, boot up from floppy, then boot from CD
[08:36] <aran> less ideally, boot up from floppy, install from internet
[08:37] <aran> i have rawwrite
[08:37] <aran> i have a burned ubuntu iso
[08:37] <aran> and i have a copy of syslinux
[08:37] <Madpilot> !enter
[08:37] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:37] <daskog> Ok, that worked but now i get enter the Video card's bus identifier
[08:37] <aran> sorry.
[08:38] <aran> Was that an automatic message?
[08:38] <Madpilot> aran: if you can't boot from CD, check your BIOS settings & boot order
[08:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: The default it gives you should work.
[08:38] <odat> aran, did you check your bios?
[08:38] <aran> yeah, it can't do it
[08:38] <odat> damn it
[08:38] <aran> yep.
[08:38] <aran> have some faith. but not too much. :)
[08:38] <Madpilot> aran: you BIOS doesn't support booting from CD?
[08:39] <aran> it does but the CD drive is unhappy and the bios doesn't detect it. need drivers.
[08:39] <aran> thus need a preliminary boot disk.
[08:39] <Ganjhi> For some reason, when I try to CD to a folder I made in "/home/carl" it says no such file or directory... "/home/carl/Eternal Lands" no typos. Can anybody help? I'd also like to know what command in the terminal or root terminal I could use to move that folder onto my desktop
[08:40] <odat> aran, http://www.bootdisk.com/
[08:40] <aran> yeah i looked.
[08:40] <aran> of the 3 linux ones, one is not 404
[08:40] <polpak> Ganjhi, you need to quote directories that have spaces
[08:40] <aran> and it doesn't work
[08:40] <aran> i booted, it froze and started trying to print things... :P
[08:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Ganjhi: or write it like /home/carl/Eternal\ Lands/
[08:40] <Madpilot> Ganjhi: try just typing "Eter" then hitting the TAB key for autocomplete
[08:41] <Ganjhi> Thanks!
[08:41] <Ganjhi> Any ideas on moving the folder?
[08:41] <Ganjhi> Says I don't have write permissions.
[08:41] <polpak> Ganjhi, did you create the directory as root?
[08:41] <odat> aran, http://www.linuxlinks.com/Distributions/Floppy/
[08:42] <Madpilot> !tell Ganjhi about cli
[08:42] <Madpilot> Ganjhi: the bot just sent you a link with lots of terminal info in it...
[08:42] <Ganjhi> thanks
[08:42] <aran> OK, how do i use one of those to boot from the CD?
[08:42] <odat> aran, dunno thats for you to figure out
[08:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol odat
[08:43] <odat> sheesh
[08:43] <yaaar> word
[08:43] <odat> lol
[08:43] <odat> gnome rocks!
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird store more than 2 e-mail addresses for a contact?
[08:44] <intelikey> rocks 'nome
[08:44] <odat> tonyyarusso, i've stuck with evolution sorry
[08:46] <odat> i love this from the kde site.   QT is free unless you want to develope commercial software then you have to pay. lol Yea that will bring developers to a new platform     sheesh
[08:46] <Pegger>  any have any experiense debugging phpmyadmin?
[08:47] <fli7e> I have a FAT32 partition that I share with Windows XP on this computer. I can read from it in Breezy, but I can't write to it. What do I need to do to make it writable?
[08:47] <intelikey> odat the idea is not to bring new developers in but to keep the software free to one and all.
[08:47] <aftertaf> !windowsdrives
[08:47] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[08:47] <aftertaf> fli7e:  see that ^^^
[08:48] <fli7e> thanks
[08:48] <odat> intelikey, hmmm i would imagine you would want both    but maybe i'm wrong
[08:48] <intelikey> fli7e add umask=0 in the /etc/fstab  the line that edscribes that filesystem
[08:49] <fli7e> intelikey, that's all i have to do?
[08:49] <jenda> Help! xmms and OO.org segfault immediatly after startup! It worked fine yesterday and now it doesn't
[08:49] <intelikey> odat both is good but if it comes to one or the other.  we want free
[08:49] <intelikey> fli7e and remount it  yes
[08:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Have you installed or updated anything since yesterday?
[08:49] <daskog> After i configured my Nvidia drivers with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i still can't set the resolution higher than 1024x
[08:49] <fli7e> intelikey and aftertaf, thanks guys.
[08:49] <odat> intelikey, i agree however i would think that if you can have the best of both words why wouldn't you pick gtk then/
[08:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Did you restart the x server?
[08:50] <daskog> hmm
[08:50] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe: Yes, I have, I installed the nvidia driver
[08:50] <daskog> no
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> What does it mean to lock and unlock the firewall in firestarter?
[08:50] <odat> daskog, did you select the resolution you would like to achieve when you reconfigured xserver?
[08:50] <intelikey>  #debate
[08:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: hit ctrl-alt-backspace (NOTE: this will quit any graphical applications you have open.)
[08:50] <daskog> yes
[08:50] <odat> intelikey, is that for me?
[08:51] <daskog> and then what?
[08:51] <intelikey> odat we are off topic....
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: That just restarts the xserver.
[08:51] <odat> infamouse, k
[08:51] <daskog> oh ok
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: It's not a reboot.
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Anything else?
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Or just the driver?
[08:51] <odat> intelikey, k
[08:52] <intelikey> and i am kinda busy atm also.
[08:52] <odat> intelikey, then i will take that as a win by default  lol
[08:52] <[nige] > hey all
[08:52] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe, hmm... just the driver, i.e. I installed the kernel module, ... and I did install lynx
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:53] <odat> lol
[08:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: That doesn't sound like it should cause any problems with OOo... 0_0
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> weird
[08:54] <Ganjhi> Has anybody here successfully installed Wormux on Ubuntu?
[08:54] <[nige] > anyone come across this problem, where by when i logout of Xwindows its changes the fresh rate on 1 monitor and only gets fixed when i restart X
[08:54] <intelikey> GPL zealot's moto  'free at any cost'
[08:54] <godzzo> Hi!
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: Is reinstalling OO.o and xmms in synaptic easily manageable for you?
[08:54] <Hendikins> intelikey: *so* true
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (ie, do you have a fast net connection?)
[08:55] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe: yes, no too bad. Dow big would that be...
[08:55] <jenda> *How
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> one moment...
[08:55] <fli7e> intelikey, when you say add umask=0 in the line that describes the filesystem, which line is that? the options one?
[08:56] <liable> yerp
[08:56] <godzzo> I have a problem with a Matroska video file (divx.5.2.1), the video is ok, but the audio is only beep-beep (like R2D2) :( Can anyone help me?
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: *big*
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: couple hundred MB
[08:56] <aftertaf> fli7e:  you have one line per mountpoint... and the umask bit you put in where is says options, where you have auto,users, etc
[08:56] <godzzo> mplayer audio info : [mkv]  Track ID 2: audio (A_AAC/MPEG4/LC/SBR), -aid 0, -alang jpn
[08:56] <globe> Does anybody know of a website that goes over manual config of the xorg.conf file?
[08:57] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe: I'll start out by reinstalling xmms and then I'll see if it helps
[08:57] <aftertaf> godzzo:  do other players work with it? vlc for example?
[08:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: okay
[08:57] <intelikey> fli7e the line that has the device and mount point for the vfat filesystem     it should look something along the lines of  '/dev/hda3 /mnt/fat32 vfat defaults,auto,umask=0 0 0 '
[08:57] <godzzo> aftertaf: no, only mplayer play the video
[08:57] <godzzo> globe, man xorg.conf ?
[08:57] <odat> jenda, whatcha trying to do?
[08:57] <fli7e> thanks both of you
[08:58] <fli7e> heros for the day
[08:58] <globe> godzzo....I thought I tried that...lemme see
[08:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: She installed the nvidia driver and kernel module yesterday, and today xmms and OOo are segfaulting.
[08:58] <aftertaf> lol fli7e :) if only ;)
[08:58] <jenda> odat: my xmms and OO.o refuse to start (seg fault). Maybe other apps too.
[08:58] <globe> godzzo: okay....guess I didnt check there ;-) thanks!
[08:58] <aftertaf> there is a bug on the wiki page about nvidia and xmms.
[08:58] <godzzo> godzzo: not at all :)
[08:58] <odat> jeffisageek, did you install the nvidia driver from there website?
[08:58] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[08:58] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:58] <odat> jenda, i mean
[08:59] <odat> sorry
[08:59] <jenda> odat: I used the nvidia installer
[08:59] <godzzo> aftertaf, I try totem, kaffine, and now installing vlc
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> uh oh
[08:59] <odat> jenda, eeek
[08:59] <jenda> odat: It wouldn't work otherwise
[08:59] <intelikey> lol i just noticed that ubuntu can run with on fstab aftertaf
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: apt-get install nvidia-glx failed?
[09:00] <odat> jenda, i would uninstall that and install the ones in synaptic
[09:00] <jenda> PuMpErNiCkLe, odat: Yes, it failed.
[09:00] <aftertaf> godzzo:  not too hot on audio codecpbs though... sorry
[09:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *blink*
[09:00] <coz> hello all and happy third day of the year
[09:01] <odat> jenda, what did it say when you tried to install it?
[09:01] <coz> aftertaf what is the problem
[09:01] <godzzo> aftertaf, what is "codecpbs"?
[09:01] <aftertaf> wazzat intelikey ?
[09:01] <coz> godzzo what is the problem
[09:01] <aftertaf> godzzo:  problems with audio codecs... you may be missing the right one on your system.
[09:01] <godzzo> coz, Matroska video file (divx.5.2.1), the video is ok, but the audio is only beep-beep (like R2D2) :(
[09:01] <jenda> odat: well x wouldn't start (cannot load nvidia driver module)
[09:02] <coz> Oh let's check a few things
[09:02] <coz> do you have all fo the gstreamer plugins
[09:02] <odat> jenda, what kind of nvidia card do you have?
[09:02] <godzzo> coz, yes multiverz too
[09:02] <intelikey> aftertaf i "for some unknown reason" installed ubuntu again on one box, and i refused to let it mess with any partitions so it didn't write a fstab,  well i adjusted my boot loader and booted it.  it runs fine but has no fstab   hehhe
[09:02] <sirex> now, ubuntu has only 6.3 version of vim, via apt-get, is there are a way to get newest version of vim with apt-get compiling vim from surces?
[09:03] <shad0w1e> question?
[09:03] <coz> this Matroska video file what is it?
[09:03] <godzzo> coz, I donno, but mplayer handle it, vlc is not.
[09:03] <shad0w1e> My only partition is being recognized as partition 2. How do I change that?
[09:03] <aftertaf> loool intelikey
[09:03] <jenda> odat: geforce 2, and yes, I had the legacy package, I have the 686 kernel and even that I installed right, AFAIK.
[09:03] <coz> vlc sucks on linux get rid of it
[09:03] <intelikey> aftertaf i was going to edit my fstab and typed 'nano /etc/fstab '  and it's blank.
[09:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/v/vim/
[09:03] <coz> do you have totem-xine installed
[09:04] <odat> godzzo, i have toyed around and mplayer is the best
[09:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: 6.4 is available there
[09:04] <godzzo> coz, If I see, it is a container, can handle multiple sub, audio trakcs...
[09:04] <daskog> what was the command for config the Nvidia drivers again?
[09:04] <aftertaf> lol intelikey good to know ;)
[09:04] <sirex> PuMpErNiCkLe: how about 7.0?
[09:04] <godzzo> :)
[09:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: nope
[09:04] <odat> jenda, will you give me a moment to assess it?
[09:04] <godzzo> I like mplayer and I mostly use it
[09:04] <jenda> odat: sure
[09:04] <coz> OK guys this godzzo needs help here lend a hand
[09:04] <intelikey> yeah i thought so too
[09:04] <sirex> PuMpErNiCkLe: compiling from sources via apt-get is not possible too?
[09:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sirex: well, actually, yes... but it looks like a backport o_O
[09:05] <shad0w1e> my "hdd" drive only has one partition, but it's being recognized as "hdd2". This is because I was playing around with the partitions, but now I only have one. How can I change it to "hdd1"?
[09:05] <coz> godzzo do other files play easily
[09:05] <aftertaf> coz:  godzzo : i use mplayer & xine...
[09:05] <daskog> is there a easy way to install the Latest Nvidia drivers for Ubuntu x86-64?
[09:05] <godzzo> coz, yes I use w32codecs (wmv, ogm etc)
[09:06] <aftertaf> shad0w1e:  not sure you can or that it would be of any use. define 'playing around'...
[09:06] <coz> ok and it is only this file?
[09:06] <mp> hello
[09:06] <godzzo> coz, yes
[09:06] <daskog> im so frutstrated and tired..
[09:06] <coz> well perhaps there is nothing wrong with the system but with the file itself
[09:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: The latest in the repository, or the latest from nVidia's website?
[09:06] <aftertaf> daskog:  does the wiki have any info for 64bit systems?
[09:06] <mp> i seem to be having a problem with evince, and I was wondering if anyone had a clue...
[09:06] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, I created a partition before it, then deleted the one before it, and resized this one to start at the beginning of the drive, thereby taking up the entire drive
[09:07] <laptop> hey, can anyone give me some support?
[09:07] <mp> it keeps crashing when I attempt to open pdf files, I suspect cause the files might be huge...   is that a known issue with evince?
[09:07] <jenda> odat: And mplayer segfaults too :(
[09:07] <laptop> im having a bad laptop issue
[09:07] <aftertaf> shad0w1e:  hehe ok...  it shouldnt matter that its called hda2
[09:07] <coz> laptop what is the prob
[09:07] <laptop> well
[09:07] <odat> jenda, did you install the nvidia-legacy-kernel-source?
[09:07] <laptop> the usb's shot.. multiple shorts
[09:07] <laptop> can i use a pcmcia for now?
[09:07] <godzzo> coz, maybe, but I have an another Matsoka (but is downloading), i will try too when it is completes...
[09:07] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, what if it's a FAT32 partition and I'm booting Win2k from it?
[09:07] <coz> good godzzo let us know
[09:07] <jenda> odat: no
[09:08] <coz> sure laptop I don't see why not
[09:08] <jenda> odat: why?
[09:08] <starscalling> i get these errors with the seveas repositories...
[09:08] <daskog> PuMpErNiCkle: Nvidias web site
[09:08] <godzzo> coz, ok
[09:08] <godzzo> coz, aftertaf, thnx
[09:08] <starscalling> says it cant stat them or some such notion..
[09:08] <laptop> well im wondering if the usb controller is any different if you use pcmcia
[09:08] <daskog> aftertaf: are you beeing sarcastic?
[09:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: You might not want to do that.
[09:08] <yaaar> anybody know of a clipboard tool for gnome that's sort of like clipper? like it can remember the last several things you highlighted?
[09:08] <odat> jenda, ok i'm gonna make a list of what you should have
[09:08] <laptop> cause its most cost effective..
[09:08] <daskog> whys that?
[09:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Witness what jenda's going through now...
[09:08] <aftertaf> shad0w1e:  the hda2?    if your nt bootloader references it correctly it should be ok. the hada(x) references are in lunix only.
[09:08] <coz> give it a try laptop best way to learn
[09:08] <daskog> oh well
[09:08] <laptop> ...
[09:08] <laptop> so no one in here would know?
[09:09] <intelikey> yaaar i guess you could use klipper
[09:09] <daskog> all i whant is a higher resolution on my display!
[09:09] <aftertaf> daskog:  no i wasn't... just that a lot less ppl are on 64bit and there is less help for it...
[09:09] <coz> I don't know for sure but I am guessing it would use the usb controller onboard
[09:09] <laptop> whats wrong daskog, 800 not big enough for you ? ;
[09:09] <mp> i seem to be having a problem with evince, and I was wondering if anyone had a clue...  it keeps crashing when I attempt to open pdf files, I suspect cause the files might be huge...   is that a known issue with evince?
[09:09] <yaaar> intelikey: well, i really don't have any kde apps i run, and so i don't want to burn the memory of loading up qt etc. just to have klipper
[09:09] <coz> mp I don;t use eveince but someone here might know if not go to ubuntuforums
[09:10] <daskog> well im on a 19" LCD
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: Can you open them with anything else?
[09:10] <aftertaf> daskog:  doesnt the latest repository one work fine?  you'll need to remove the nvidia website one first though
[09:10] <laptop> DASKOG
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: for example, xpdf?
[09:10] <laptop> CANT YOU JUST DO IT IN THE DESKTOP PROPERTIES?
[09:10] <mp> could you tell me the command is, I apologize but im new to linux
[09:10] <aftertaf> daskog:  what actual driver are you running X on right now?
[09:10] <yaaar> intelikey: also, will that even work? it doesn't require kde to be running to catch it's input?
[09:10] <coz> mp download adobe reader
[09:10] <intelikey> yaaar memory in high demand there is it ?     like i have 64m   and run kde with klipper in that with no swap.....
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: xpdf /path/file ?
[09:11] <odat> jenda, xserver-xorg-driver-nv , nvidia-kernel-common , nvidia-glx-legacy     this is after you uninstall the driver you installed the other day   then after you install these open a terminal and enter 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:11] <daskog> aftertaf: Far as iknow i only used synaptic to install the driver
[09:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mp: I have it set as my default, so I'm just guessing.
[09:11] <coz> or gonto your add applications and look for adobe reader under office
[09:11] <blackvd> my home directory is 90% full just found out why ...files I 'deleted' months ago are stored in ~/.local/share/Trash for some reason.Anyways it wont let me delete said files even in terminal.So how do I delete them?
[09:11] <starscalling> first it stays on " 99% [Connecting to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (83.160.7.26)]  " for quite some time when sudo apt-get update
[09:11] <aftertaf> mp or open synaptic and search 'pdf', then install one of them instead. the command is mostof the time the same as the package name.
[09:11] <mp> that would work, but i kinda want to stay away from adobe reader, reason because I need a viewer for dvi, ps, etc...
[09:11] <daskog> laptop:?
[09:11] <laptop> ***if anyone has owned a laptop and had their usb ports short out, and had to use a pcmcia usb adapter, could they please speak up?***
[09:11] <j-linux> is there a way to get a list of installed packages outputted to a text file?
[09:11] <aftertaf> BlackJudas:  rm
[09:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> blackvd: rm -rf /path/to/file ?
[09:11] <yaaar> intelikey: right, you run kde with klipper. but i'm running gnome/gtk for all my stuff at this point. so it just seems a waste to have to load the whole second set of widgets and such
[09:11] <jenda> odat: OK, how do I uninstall them, though?
[09:11] <coz> blackvd are they root accessonly
[09:11] <aftertaf> j-linux:  dpkg -l > text.txt
[09:11] <blackvd> k thanks
[09:12] <j-linux> aftertaf: thanks
[09:12] <starscalling> so i guess im wondering if anyone else has problems with sevaes's repositories
[09:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: There should be an uninstall script with the nVidia download.
[09:12] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks man
[09:12] <intelikey> yaaar the point was even if you had to add all of kde to your 'nome  it still shouldn't add more than 64m ram usage.
[09:12] <coz> starscalling I don't use anyting by seveas
[09:13] <daskog> give away my Gf 7800gtx  can get it to work anyway =P
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: Just hopping around :)
[09:13] <starscalling> ah
[09:13] <daskog> can't
[09:13] <yaaar> daskog: i'll take it
[09:13] <odat> jenda, and if that doesn't work i bet you any money its the nvidia legacy glx driver       but try that first
[09:13] <starscalling> guess ill just delete his sources then....
[09:13] <j-linux> aftertaf: that worked even better that what I was looking for... thanks again...
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: I'll take it :D
[09:13] <aftertaf> j-linux:  ;)
[09:13] <yaaar> PuMpErNiCkLe: beat ya
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Beats my 6600GT hands down
[09:13] <daskog> lol
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yaaar: Curse you!
[09:13] <daskog> right now it dont beat s***
[09:14] <yaaar> daskog: so what's the trouble anyhow?
[09:14] <aftertaf> daskog:   PuMpErNiCkLe : the ./NVIDIA-installer.sh accepts a --uninstall switch
[09:14] <daskog> i ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:14] <blackvd> wow went from 90% full to 19% anyone know why it stores stuff there?
[09:14] <daskog> rebooted and still no higher res
[09:14] <aftertaf> blackvd:  trashcan
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Have you tried changing it in Pref(menu)-> resolution?
[09:15] <aftertaf> blackvd:  if you delete in gui, it goes tere... unless you hold shift at same time
[09:15] <daskog> yes
[09:15] <daskog> highest is 1024
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> and...?
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ah
[09:15] <coz> blackvd there is a setting with right click delet bypasses trash
[09:15] <blackvd> why doesnt it just delete it like I asked?
[09:15] <daskog> aftertaf: what you mean?
[09:15] <Toma--> black hold shift then press delete on them
[09:15] <coz> blackvd go to system preferences
[09:15] <aftertaf> daskog:  normally no need to reboot even.   can you use 1024.768.
[09:15] <jenda> odat, PuMpErNiCkLe: Wait... before I do that... I noticed that I am supposed to comment out the Load "GLcore" in xorg.conf, which I didn't do. Could that cause segfaults?
[09:15] <coz> files managment
[09:15] <ardchoille> Happy birthday to me!!! I was born on Jan. 3, 1964 @ 07:35 :)
[09:15] <starscalling> libvisual WARNING: no progname: visual_plugin_get_list(): Failed to add the /usr/lib/libvisual/transform directory to the plugin registr
[09:16] <starscalling> anyone ever run into that error??
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: possibly...
[09:16] <aftertaf> daskog:  for the nvidia website drivers package, if you want to remove it you can by running it with a switch on the end.
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jenda: I commented it out, so I dunno :)
[09:16] <aftertaf> loool ardchoille  happy burfday
[09:16] <jenda> I'll try that first then
[09:16] <daskog> can you write the command for me?
[09:16] <coz> blackvd the go to the behavior tab and tick the box for right click delete
[09:16] <odat> jenda, this is gonna sound rough but what would you rather have something that kinda works ok or something that works like it should?
[09:17] <daskog> im totaly new with linux!
[09:17] <Hoxzer> how do I enable sound server?
[09:17] <coz> and uncheck the ask for confirmation unless you like that
[09:17] <daskog> aftertaf: Softimage Xsi 5 must have native resolution on 19" LCD to be functional
[09:17] <jenda> odat: well odat, the apt install never worked for me, so I'm guessing that if it's _caused_ by the GLcore module, tehn I prefer the quick hack :)
[09:18] <daskog> i dont get it! this was not a problem with Suse 10
[09:18] <_Rappy_> newbie question: I'm connected to a server via ssh. What's the commando to show the servers current time?
[09:18] <ardchoille> thanks daskog
[09:18] <odat> jenda, are you using synaptic to install this stuff?
[09:18] <Hendikins> _Rappy_: date
[09:18] <jenda> odat: no
[09:18] <_Rappy_> tnx Hendikins :)
[09:18] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, I did not have the 2000 CD and I transferred my 2000 OS onto a second hard drive, and copied the MBR using the dd (bs=446) command. So I want to get hdd2 to be recognized as hdd1, if I could...
[09:18] <odat> jenda, prolly should its much more informative and easy to boot
[09:18] <odat> lol
[09:18] <daskog> ardchoille: ???
[09:18] <ardchoille> daskog: sorry, wrong nick
[09:19] <ardchoille> aftertaf: Thanks :D
[09:19] <odat> daskog, open up synaptic do a search for nvidia and tell me what you have installed
[09:19] <daskog> 5 sek
[09:19] <jenda> odat: hmm... apt-get and apt-cache works fine for me :)
[09:19] <jenda> brb
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out all - sleep
[09:19] <odat> sheesh why are women so stubborn? :)
[09:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol odat
[09:20] <odat> see ya pum
[09:20] <odat> :)
[09:21] <intelikey> what fs type does ubuntu use for cdrom  udf or somethin like that ?
[09:21] <odat> iso9600 or something like that lol
[09:21] <daskog> odat: nvdial-glx 1.0.7667-0ubuntu25.1,    nvidia-kernel-common,           nvidia-settings,         xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[09:22] <aftertaf> daskog:  the file you got from the website... do you remember how you ran it? sh ./NVIDIA-[lots of numbers] .sh   ?
[09:22] <intelikey> odat interesting cause all i get out of iso9660 is wrong fs type errors
[09:22] <Pegger> what is the name of the snmp web program that gratheres statics I belive that it's mascot is a cactius
[09:22] <daskog> i did not download anything frome the Website
[09:22] <aftertaf> daskog:  ohhhh. ok. i understood wrong then. nevermind... :)
[09:23] <daskog> np
[09:23] <odat> daskog, uninstall that nvidia-setting out of there and choose to reinstall all the others    that nvidia-settings thing is starting to cause problem with recent releases
[09:23] <daskog> ok
[09:23] <aftertaf> nvidia is sort of pot luck at the moment....
[09:23] <odat> intelikey, that is what i used with cedega to do something and it worked :(
[09:24] <odat> aftertaf, agreed although i haven't had any problems with it for a long time
[09:24] <intelikey> hmmm works manually....
[09:24] <intelikey> but not from fstab
[09:25] <odat> intelikey, weird
[09:25] <phos-phoros> s/evil/dirty
[09:26] <daskog> odat: done!
[09:26] <aftertaf> odat:  me neither... and in dapper it works fine again now, but didnt for a while
[09:26] <yaaar> word
[09:26] <daskog> odat: is that all?
[09:26] <yaaar> yeah, so klipper works just perfect in gnome.
[09:26] <yaaar> it still offends me on principle....gnome really should have that same function as a gtk deally. but whatever
[09:26] <aftertaf> phos-phoros:  qemu is fun too
[09:26] <yaaar> aftertaf: yeah, but sloooooow
[09:27] <aftertaf> yaaar:  there is that....
[09:27] <yaaar> or at least it was for me, emuing winxp
[09:27] <aftertaf> me 2
[09:27] <yaaar> sure as hell was neat though, having a winxp desktop in a window on your linux box
[09:27] <odat> daskog, now i would do the reconfigure thingy again and when it gets to the screen where it ask you to mark the resolutions you would like to achieve make sure you mark them. I have only ever achieved 1280 x 1024 but my graphics card isn't as nice either. then when your done with that restart your computer
[09:28] <odat> aftertaf, you mean the nvidia-settings thing?
[09:28] <daskog> ok
[09:28] <daskog> thanks
[09:28] <shad0w1e> aftertaf, thanks for all the help!
[09:29] <odat> daskog, don't get discouraged it does work and well linux and ubuntu are worth a little golf headache lol
[09:29] <UniqueName> Hey i need some help i just install ubuntu on my LW40 express laptop and it had probs with the soundcard i managed to control print screen E to get past the problem with hotplug to get into ubuntu but beucae i terminated the task i think it stoped it from loading my network drivers so now i have no sound and no network drivers can someone help me get the stuff setup nice
[09:30] <odat> UniqueName, try a reinstall first
[09:31] <intelikey> odat ?
[09:31] <odat> intelikey, ?
[09:31] <intelikey> why not a reconfigure
[09:31] <liable> UniqueName: /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:31] <UniqueName> i tried installing twice
[09:31] <intelikey> dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:31] <UniqueName> and it does not like my soundcard
[09:32] <liable> UniqueName: add sudo's as you see fit..
[09:32] <intelikey> cheeper that a reload
[09:32] <odat> on a fresh install that goes wrong somewhere i feel its just a better idea to try a reinstall rather than fix a broken system to begin with
[09:32] <UniqueName> i did the dpkg thing to get into linux
[09:32] <UniqueName> but the soundcard problem still exists
[09:32] <daskog> odat: So true
[09:32] <UniqueName> if you do a google search for LW40 express
[09:32] <daskog> see you around..soon
[09:32] <UniqueName> you will see its a problem with the hardware
[09:32] <odat> daskog, k
[09:32] <UniqueName> there is a kernel patch for the problem
[09:32] <jenda> odat, PuMpErNiCkLe: lol... I commented it out and X refused to start. I'm in too much of a hurry to bother with it now, but since I need to fix several things anyway, I will prolly do a clean reinstall over the weekend. BTW, I turned back to the "nv" driver, and OO.org now works. Xmms doesn't...
[09:32] <odat> daskog, wishing you lol
[09:32] <intelikey> hmmmm if i use that theory, i can not run ubuntu.
[09:33] <liable> UniqueName: check on tuxmobil.org to see if anyone has a work around for your laptop
[09:33] <intelikey> all i can do is reload it endlessly
[09:33] <odat> jenda, pretty please try synaptic with the list i gave ya and the reconfigure command    you'll be happy :)
[09:34] <UniqueName> liable i can see networking in that list in init.d
[09:34] <UniqueName> but its not starting
[09:34] <UniqueName> it says sudo networking command not found
[09:34] <odat> intelikey, did i tell you what i did last week?
[09:34] <intelikey> guess not.
[09:34] <liable> UniqueName: um, sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[09:35] <jenda> odat: I would - If I could. I would first need to uninstall the driver, which is apparently next to impossible. ATM - OO.org works, which allows me to live about a day longer ... I will first try what you say before I do a clean reinstall :).
[09:35] <odat> intelikey, took the dive no more dual boot for me i said f*** it i'm going entirely linux lol     erased my drive and said see ya as soon as i got madden football running on linux lol
[09:36] <intelikey> :)      good on ya odat
[09:36] <UniqueName> liable it said ok but the networking thing is not showing a new network device
[09:36] <odat> jenda, if you open synaptic you may be able to uninstall it from there or simply override the driver you installed the other day
[09:36] <UniqueName> the setup detected by network cards in the install as it asked me for my wep for my wireless net
[09:37] <odat> hahahahahahah very very evil like is how i laughed afterwords lol
[09:37] <jenda> odat: lol... And how will that be different from what I had before I installed with the nvidia installer?
[09:37] <odat> UniqueName, might have to look into nsdiwrapper or something like that lol
[09:37] <liable> UniqueName: then go into the network config thing and have a look around..
[09:38] <UniqueName> i have done that liable thats why i know its not there
[09:38] <UniqueName> i did a ls *net* in initd and saw hotplug-net i am guessing thats my problem as i had to terminate the hotplug thing on the boot
[09:38] <UniqueName> as it was having a error with my soundcard
[09:38] <fli7e> is there a good GUI frontend for smbclient that anyone knows of?
[09:38] <UniqueName> i think if i fix my soundcard i will fix my problem with network or am i wrong?
[09:38] <odat> jenda, nvidia driver is not as nice as the ones in the repositories and or synaptic which is why we all use those and not nvidia installer thingy
[09:39] <tepsipakki> is my dapper the only one which is having interactivity problems.. the system feels quite sluggish, even though the hardware isn't (2.2GHz celeron, 512MB)?
[09:39] <tepsipakki> same hardware with sarge/breezy is snappy
[09:40] <jenda> odat: they didn't work for me before. The only thing I'm thinking might do the trick is completely removing the official drver, and then apting it. But just doing the same thing as before - apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy and the rest, that just has no point.
[09:41] <andy__> moin
[09:41] <Raskall> anyone has a good solution (other than a killall cronjob) for the gam_server hogging all cpu, RAM and swap.
[09:41] <brett> hello unbuntu gods!
[09:41] <brett> Is it possible to dual or tripple boot?
[09:41] <Hendikins> Yes.
[09:41] <brett> what's the procedure?
[09:41] <Raskall> brett: you can even octoboot. :)
[09:41] <brett> lol
[09:41] <brett> TY
[09:41] <brett> So what's the best way?
[09:41] <brett> I have this old box
[09:41] <odat> jenda, ok its your headache i suppose i'm just telling you how i would GET IT TO WORK
[09:41] <intelikey> nonoboot :)
[09:41] <brett> that would be a great Win98 / XP / Ubuntu box
[09:42] <Hendikins> Raskall: I think the most OSes I've had on one box has been about 6... back when I cared.
[09:42] <brett> on a 20gb drive :)
[09:42] <intelikey> decaboot
[09:42] <jenda> odat: Thanx man - I'll get back to it as soon as I can.
[09:42] <theconartist> this is makin me mad
[09:42] <brett> so hooow
[09:42] <odat> intelikey, gigaboot?
[09:42] <brett> so how?
[09:42] <Hendikins> brett: I'd install the Windows first, then Linux
[09:42] <intelikey> i doubt that odat
[09:42] <brett> which windows?
[09:42] <Hendikins> and I'd put the XP on NTFS so that 98 can't see it
[09:42] <Raskall> brett: make 3 partitions. first, install win98, then install xp, then finish with ubuntu. ubuntu will set up the triple boot for you
[09:42] <odat> Hendikins, true
[09:42] <Dark_Side_Of_The> guys...hello. does anyone know what do i have to do to make work the nvidia driver with a recently installed kernel image for i686 ?
[09:43] <brett> lol sweet
[09:43] <Hendikins> and I'd use a common data partition, FAT32 would be sensible for that.
[09:43] <Raskall> brett: actually win98 and xp can be on the same partition, but then XP would have to use a fat32 partition
[09:43] <brett> they cso 4 partitiions on a 20gb?
[09:43] <intelikey> odat there is a limit.  initial ram that bios allots you know.
[09:43] <Kindred> and a swap partition :P
[09:43] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, wow nvidia hell tonight
[09:43] <Hendikins> Raskall: That's asking for problems. Keeping them apart is prudent
[09:43] <Raskall> 20 gig and triple boot is virtually impossible
[09:43] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, do you have all the necessary drivers installed?
[09:43] <Dark_Side_Of_The> hehe...why odat?
[09:43] <Raskall> Hendikins: I know. but it would work. :)
[09:43] <brett> actually guys my data drive will be netwoek so that's not needed
[09:43] <Dark_Side_Of_The> yes
[09:44] <Hendikins> Raskall: No, it isn't. Tight? Yes. Virtually impossible? No.
[09:44] <Dark_Side_Of_The> nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx
[09:44] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, did you do a reconfigure?
[09:44] <Dark_Side_Of_The> the only problem is that with i686 it just* don't load the module
[09:44] <brett> please keep in mind I'kll have virtually no apps or data
[09:44] <Dark_Side_Of_The> dbkg-reconfigure?
[09:44] <Raskall> Hendikins: ok, I give. But there'll be very little room for data. :)
[09:44] <brett> 8. 8. and 4?
[09:44] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, yea
[09:44] <Hendikins> You could give Win98 and WinXP a primary partition each, and toss your data/Linux/swap in an extended.
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> wich packet do i have to reconfigure?
[09:45] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:45] <Hendikins> Raskall: Depends on what data is involved, etc.
[09:45] <brett> so three partitions.  8 for xp 8 for unbuntu and 4 for win98?
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> ohh...that is new..
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> for me
[09:45] <tepsipakki> no one here is running Dapper?
[09:45] <Dark_Side_Of_The> thank you very much for your help odat
[09:45] <brett> or doe ubunGuys
[09:45] <odat> Dark_Side_Of_The, np
[09:45] <brett> blah
[09:46] <brett> Seriously I'm ready to reboot.  What ya think?
[09:46] <Hendikins> brett: I'd probably go 7 each for XP/Ubuntu, 3 for 98, remainder data.
[09:46] <brett> don't need data
[09:46] <Raskall> brett: my advice is to set aside a 3 gig partition for win98. 7 gig for XP and then leave the rest unpartitioned and set it up when you install ubuntu.
[09:46] <Raskall> brett: as Hendikins says 3 gigs for shared data partition would be sensible
[09:46] <brett> ubuntu will make a bunch of little partitions then right?
 so three partitions.  8 for xp 8 for unbuntu and 4 for win98? <--- looks like a good plan to me
[09:47] <brett> Thanks raskal but NO data needed
[09:47] <odat> brett, all ubuntu sounds good to me :)
[09:47] <daskog> Ah finaly =)
[09:47] <brett> Install 98 first then xp then ubuntu?
[09:47] <odat> daskog, got it?
[09:47] <brett> Got it.
[09:47] <daskog> odat: thanks to you it works
[09:47] <brett> Any last suggestions (other than to get a clue)?
[09:47] <odat> daskog, cool
[09:47] <daskog> Now i dont have to give my card away after all :P
[09:47] <brett> close enough
[09:47] <Hendikins> brett: I'd probably do XP, 98, Linux
[09:47] <Raskall> brett: back up any data that's there now.
[09:48] <intelikey> brett always make backups of important crap
[09:48] <brett> no data clean machine
[09:48] <Hoxzer> how do I enable sound server?
[09:48] <brett> (this one)
[09:48] <odat> daskog, lolol hey before you go make sure you have all you repositories open it will make your life much easier
[09:48] <Raskall> brett: then roll..
[09:48] <brett> i don't think you can install 98 AFTER xp
[09:48] <Hoxzer> what is the best way to monitor my CPU tempature?
[09:48] <intelikey> you can but it's not easy
[09:48] <Hendikins> brett: You can if XP is on NTFS, and you put 98 on a primary that you've manually set active.
[09:48] <daskog> what you mean by that?
[09:48] <brett> ok thanks all so much from rainy los angeles
[09:48] <Raskall> brett: I think it's very wise to have win98 on the first logical partition and therefor install it first.
[09:48] <odat> daskog, open up synaptic and i'll show you
[09:48] <brett> yah
[09:49] <brett> got it raskall
[09:49] <daskog> ok
[09:49] <Hendikins> Raskall: I'd agree - if XP couldn't see FAT32.
[09:49] <Hendikins> certainly with NT4 I used to do 9x first
[09:49] <non-owned_nick> Anyone know much about Synaptic and authentication issues?
[09:50] <daskog> odat: it's open
[09:50] <Hendikins> and since grub would be used as a bootloader, you wouldn't need 98 in the NT boot menu or anything like that.
[09:50] <Hendikins> (Yes, I know the person who asked the question has left)
[09:50] <odat> daskog, k this is a little bit of a process but basically what your doing is adding thousands of more programs that you could use if you wanted to   in synaptic
[09:50] <intelikey> actually i don't know why anyone wants more than one M$ windows installed anyway..... actually one is excessive.
[09:51] <Hendikins> Masochist?
[09:51] <daskog> ok
[09:51] <moodog> Morning all.
[09:52] <odat> daskog, ok first do this "settings , repositories, settings , click box next to show disabled software sources and click ok
[09:52] <theconartist> intelikey, i still havent figured out how to fix this :/
[09:52] <UniqueName> Can someone quickly tell me what command you use to run deb files from the command line
[09:52] <intelikey> still trying to load e16 theconartist ?
[09:52] <theconartist> yes
[09:53] <daskog> odat:done
[09:53] <UniqueName> plz hurry there is like 6min left of laptop battery
[09:53] <odat> daskog, then in the list in that box in front of you click off the top one that is for the cd, that isn't needed anymore,  look through the list and check the boxes next to the ones that aren't checked
[09:53] <intelikey> pastebin your sources.list theconartist
[09:53] <theconartist> UniqueName, usually  dpkg -i
[09:53] <liable> UniqueName: plug it in! (dpkg -i foo.deb)
[09:53] <intelikey> UniqueName plug in.
[09:53] <chris1086_> could someone help a noob here?
[09:54] <daskog> ok
[09:54] <non-owned_nick> Can anyone help me with a authentication problem (package management)?
[09:54] <odat> daskog, then click the add button on that window
[09:54] <daskog> ok
[09:55] <chris1086_> I don't know how to use the command line in ubuntu
[09:55] <daskog> & then OK again?
[09:55] <odat> daskog, there is a menu in that little window that pops up click on the boxes that aren't checked then hit ok,  hit add again go to the next menu item and repeat until you went through all three
[09:55] <daskog> ok
[09:57] <theconartist> intelikey, it looks like it should; everything is enabled exept for sources
[09:57] <aftertaf> !tell chris1086_ about cli
[09:58] <intelikey> theconartist does your apt-cache search  find it ?
[09:58] <theconartist> intelikey, find what
[09:58] <daskog> odat: there, im done
[09:58] <theconartist> intelikey, the package?
[09:58] <intelikey> theconartist e16  what are you trying to install
[09:58] <intelikey> yes
[09:58] <odat> daskog, after all of that hit ok then YES and synaptic libraries will update themselves once that is done you can click it off because a little window will pop up at the bottom that says upgrade available do you want to install. You can not use this kickass feature when you have synaptic open so click install updates and let it update your system. once its done restart your computer and make sure to come back so i know your ok lol
[09:59] <theconartist> intelikey, yes
[09:59] <andy_mitsound> g'day
[09:59] <intelikey> theconartist then it should install.... maybe you have a config hanging aroung from a former install ?    look in /etc
[10:00] <odat> daskog, still here?
[10:00] <daskog> ok
[10:00] <odat> daskog, one more thing
[10:00] <daskog> mm
[10:00] <odat> daskog, i imagine you want to be able to view windows media files and stuff right?
[10:00] <non-owned_nick> ANyone able to help me with an authentication problem with synaptic/update manager?
[10:01] <daskog> yea sure
[10:01] <odat> daskog, k still have synaptic open?
[10:01] <non-owned_nick> All packages are unauthenticated
[10:01] <daskog> 5 sek
[10:01] <Irvine> how to cd to cd-rom?
[10:01] <non-owned_nick> Been like it for a couple days now.
[10:02] <daskog> odat: now its open again
[10:02] <theconartist> intelikey, not that i see
[10:02] <Irvine> how to change directory to cd-rom?
[10:02] <odat> daskog, k go back to settings and repositories
[10:02] <Irvine> in terminal
[10:02] <daskog> k
[10:03] <andy_mitsound> i want to install the sun java jre , thats my first time, which version should i use ?
[10:03] <odat> daskog, click add then custom
[10:03] <intelikey> theconartist i know this may sound silly but do a dpkg -i <package>  just to make sure it's not installed
[10:03] <theconartist> apt tells me it is not available
[10:03] <zzbe> hihi everyone
[10:03] <odat> daskog, then copy and paste this in         deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[10:03] <intelikey> or is that -li
[10:03] <odat> daskog, hit ok
[10:03] <odat> daskog, then
[10:03] <Irvine> how to change directory to cd-rom?
[10:03] <Irvine> anyone
[10:04] <odat> daskog, do it again and copy and paste this in      deb-src ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu breezy main
[10:04] <daskog> ok
[10:04] <theconartist> intelikey, nope
[10:04] <intelikey> Irvine cd <path>
[10:04] <odat> daskog, and hit ok
[10:04] <intelikey> theconartist idk.
[10:05] <theconartist> ppoopie
[10:05] <odat> once you install all your update we will get mplayer    and or your movie player working damn nice     thats after your restart of course lol
[10:05] <Irvine> intelikey,how?i don't know its patch.
[10:05] <stroh> who can tell  me should i use  i use Linux RPM (self-extracting file) or Linux (self-extracting file)?  for install the sun jre
[10:06] <blaamann> stroh: The last one
[10:06] <intelikey> Irvine /cdrom   maybe  :)     lest look in /mnt/
[10:06] <stroh> k thx
[10:06] <non-owned_nick> the wiki instructions for fixing synaptic are fubar
[10:06] <non-owned_nick> try looking in /madia
[10:06] <intelikey> Irvine maybe even  /media/
[10:06] <newbies> how run run check disk in my ubuntu?
[10:06] <intelikey> fsck newbies
[10:07] <daskog> odat: could not download all repository indexes!
[10:07] <Irvine> intelikey,ok
[10:07] <Chousuke> hm. /
[10:07] <newbies> intelikey, ty
[10:07] <Irvine> i done it
[10:07] <Chousuke> can't make freenx work
[10:07] <non-owned_nick> I have the same problem
[10:07] <odat> daskog, those last two i had you put in did you put the entire line in or just the url?
[10:07] <kareljan> hello
[10:07] <kareljan> I'm new in linux
[10:08] <kareljan> can anyone help me?
[10:08] <intelikey> newbies it's fsck<tabkey><tabkey>  for a list and  man fsck.vfat   or what ever fs type for the howto
[10:08] <Chousuke> I'm trying to connect to my freenx server with the OS X client, but it fails the first time with "failed to set authorisation cookie" and the next time it seems like it's working, but I see only black.
[10:08] <blaamann>  kareljan: Dont ask to ask
[10:08] <non-owned_nick> lo Toma-     bit warm today eh
[10:08] <kareljan> I need to install realvnc
[10:08] <daskog> odat: entire line
[10:08] <kareljan> but i have no idea how to do it
[10:09] <odat> daskog, did it say somthing about not being able to verify gpg or something like that?
[10:09] <non-owned_nick> Anyone know why security updates can't be authenticated (same problem for 5 or so days now)
[10:09] <daskog> it sayd might not longer be avalible
[10:09] <daskog> or somthin like that
[10:09] <kareljan> no i just haven't ever installed something on linux
[10:09] <WebLOCH> hey guys, what partitioning software do you use?
[10:10] <intelikey> !find vnc
[10:10] <Irvine> qtparted
[10:10] <odat> daskog, this thing that no biggy i have that too   it doesn't affect anything
[10:10] <intelikey> lists 15 potential victoms
[10:10] <kareljan> !find vnc
[10:10] <WebLOCH> Irvine, i tried that it doesnt seem to want to let me resize an extended partition
[10:11] <liable> apt-cache search?? :)
[10:11] <daskog> odat: http://pastebin.com/488408
[10:11] <intelikey> kareljan  linuxvnc  may be what you are looking for
[10:11] <newbies> intelikey, can i check disk on my mounted devices?
[10:11] <kareljan> how do I install a package?
[10:11] <newbies> intelikey, the device is on /dev/hda1
[10:11] <non-owned_nick> kareljan,    do you need 'realvnc' or just a vnc app?
[10:12] <odat> daskog, k hold on thats not the right thingy give me a sec
[10:12] <intelikey> newbies it is not recomended.        newbies read the man page on fsck.*
[10:12] <daskog> odat:http://pastebin.com/488409
[10:12] <non-owned_nick> kareljan,    try selecting system, administration, synaptic package manager, choose search and look for vnc
[10:12] <newbies> intelikey, awkis
[10:12] <intelikey> newbies you can umount non-/ partitions and fsck them.
[10:13] <intelikey> ? awkis
[10:13] <odat> daskog, are you using amd64?
[10:13] <daskog> yes
[10:13] <daskog> amd x2
[10:14] <non-owned_nick> the .au security repositories seem to be broken, if anyone cares.
[10:14] <odat> daskog, k didn't know that   hold on
[10:14] <daskog> i forgot to tell
[10:15] <weekang> hey
[10:15] <odat> daskog, k those two libraries i had you put in synaptic are not for amd64 so you can go back in synaptic and remove them from the list then update again
[10:15] <weekang> where do i file/browse bug reports for dapper flight 2?
[10:16] <Irvine> webloch,you can download system rescue cd
[10:17] <daskog> oh now i dont remember wich one lol
[10:17] <odat> daskog, they are most likely the two at the bottom of the list
[10:18] <daskog> odat: ok
[10:18] <daskog> done
[10:19] <odat> daskog, ok cool you might as well do the update thingy  close synaptic and click on that little icon that keeps bugging you about updating you system
[10:19] <kareljan> can someone help me to install realvnc?
[10:19] <Hendikins> Is it just me, or did this slip completely under the radar? http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb05-07.html
[10:19] <kareljan> in a private box?
[10:20] <daskog> odat: ok i i'll do that
[10:20] <windowmaker> anybody know how to fix the sound sync problem in flash player (for firefox?)
[10:21] <windowmaker> what happened to this channel? =O, nobody's talking
[10:21] <Hendikins> windowmaker: That's been bugging me for god knows how long. Since it happens with gflashplayer as well, I suspect it is a problem with Macromedia's code, not ours.
[10:22] <binarydigit> kareljan: ask questions
[10:23] <intelikey> hmmm this is odd, i have man-db installed  but info man-db says package does not exist....
[10:23] <bettong_BOFH> can someone help me with a media player/keyboard isshue
[10:24] <binarydigit> not until you say what it is
[10:24] <Hoxzer> can I somehow make lm-sensors to show up my CPU tempature on the dekstop?
[10:24] <Irvine> how to open wine folder?
[10:24] <Toma-> Hoxzer: with gdesklets you can
[10:24] <windowmaker> Hendikins, but i have heard of so many people who have fixed it, but every guide i follow doesn't work good for me, i've gone as far to get the sound worknig, but not in sync
[10:24] <bettong_BOFH> open up a terminal and type cd .wine
[10:24] <Hoxzer> Toma-: I'm using Gnome ;/
[10:24] <intelikey> Hoxzer if you can check it from cli you can make it display on the desktop
[10:25] <Toma-> Hoxzer: gdesklets is for gnome
[10:25] <daskog> odat: gona restart brb
[10:25] <Hoxzer> oh
[10:25] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:25] <Hendikins> windowmaker: All I know is that the problem isn't with our (as in Firefox) code. I'm yet to see a cure-all fix myself.
[10:26] <Hoxzer> can somebody tell me how to do this?
[10:26] <kareljan> if you have installed a package, where do you find it then?
[10:26] <binarydigit> kareljan: in the gnome menu , or just type the command
[10:27] <windowmaker> =(
[10:27] <kareljan> I use de kde interface
[10:27] <binarydigit> well then it would be in the kde menu
[10:27] <kareljan> any idea where? I have installed a vncserver
[10:28] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:28] <binarydigit> kareljan: try typing the command in a terminal
[10:28] <kareljan> I'm the newest newbie on the plannet
[10:28] <intelikey> what's that command to fix broken packages again ?
[10:29] <Hendikins> windowmaker: I'll keep an eye out for a reliable fix and add it to PluginDoc if I see it. Sorry I couldn't help you right now though.
[10:29] <kareljan> what would the command be?
[10:29] <binarydigit> kareljan: try typing vnc and then hit tab and see if it autocompletes
[10:30] <daskog> odat: there, now i have updatet and restarted
[10:30] <liable> kareljan: kde normally comes with a vncserver, called remote desktop..
[10:30] <Irvine> how to explore C:/ that wine created?
[10:31] <fli7e> where are temporary files stored? typically in the home folder?
[10:31] <Hoxzer> can somebody tell me how can I configure gdesklets
[10:31] <liable> Irvine: with a file manager? its in ~/.wine
[10:31] <liable> Irvine: or regedit
[10:32] <kareljan> liable:  how do you set it to server?
[10:32] <Irvine> liable:how to open it?
[10:32] <liable> kareljan: look in the networking menu is there no remote desktop thingy there?
[10:32] <intelikey> Irvine nautilus browse to ~/.wine/
[10:33] <topyli> fli7e: in /tmp typically.. sometimes in ~/tmp. some services store them in /var/tmp
[10:33] <liable> Irvine: its a hidden directory (show hidden files)
[10:33] <kareljan> liable:  no idea I'm new at linux. And I haven't find the way's yet
[10:34] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:34] <liable> kareljan: keep looking in menus..
[10:34] <daskog> Odat!!
[10:34] <Irvine> intelikey,then
[10:34] <bettong_BOFH> omg someone has built a linux powerd keg fridge O_o
[10:34] <kareljan> in the consome how do i  do somthing like cd in dos?
[10:34] <Hendikins> Hrm. All googling does is get me acknowledgement from Macromedia that audio gets out of sync. Go figure.
[10:34] <Luna-Tick> Hello all. I am prepared to donate US$20 to Ubuntu if I can find 5 others who are prepared to do so as well.
[10:35] <liable> kareljan: um.. cd? :P
[10:35] <binarydigit> kareljan: i suggest reading a linux basic tutorial before doing anything further
[10:35] <odat> daskog, yea
[10:35] <Tomcat_> lol Luna-Tick.
[10:35] <poningru> kareljan: cd
[10:35] <Tomcat_> I wonder if I ever donated...
[10:35] <poningru> !bash
[10:35] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[10:35] <fli7e> topyli, when does /tmp get emptied? automatically as needed?
[10:35] <Luna-Tick> Any reason I got a laugh, tomcat?
[10:35] <kareljan> binarydigit: where do i find the tutorial?
[10:35] <poningru> kareljan: follow that link
[10:35] <kareljan> ok thanx
[10:35] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: It's a weird idea. Not bad of course.
[10:35] <binarydigit> kareljan: use your brain and search google
[10:35] <daskog> odat: ok
[10:35] <ompaul> kareljan, that ling that poningru just had the bot put on the screen
[10:35] <daskog> now what?
[10:36] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: I donated 25 EUR to Wikipedia lately, so I can't participate...
[10:36] <intelikey> Hendikins yes at least i have more time than money :)
[10:36] <Luna-Tick> There are a lot of people who keep saying they will and don't get around to it. I just thought that I would provide the impetus for those to actually do it :)
[10:36] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: Yeah it's certainly good. :)
[10:36] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, well given the resources of Mark Shuttleworth I would give it to the debian project or freenode or something
[10:36] <Kindred> i'm not sure Ubuntu is short on cash.. :|
[10:36] <Hendikins> intelikey: My time has proven invaluable to the Mozilla folks, and I'm sure it can be useful around here in a related capcity.
[10:37] <topyli> fli7e: apps should clean after themslelves unless they are buggy
[10:37] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, the man behind it is worth the guts of a half a billion dollars
[10:37] <fli7e> topyli, thanks
[10:37] <intelikey> Hendikins i'm sure.
[10:37] <Luna-Tick> Sadly my programming skills aren't quite up to standard :(.
[10:37] <Luna-Tick> Ompaul, that is true, but even the $20mill which he has put into it can't really sustain a complete OS
[10:37] <odat> daskog, everything ok
[10:38] <bettong_BOFH> Hendikins, hey speakin of mozilla i have a problem that you might know of....how come when i click on a link in email or in well anything that isen't mozilla i have to copy and paste it into there? is there a way to fix it?
[10:38] <topyli> fli7e: if you create something in your ~/tmp, then you'll be the one who gets to clean up too :)
[10:38] <poningru> Luna-Tick: you'd be surprised how little an os needs
[10:38] <daskog> yupp
[10:38] <tronix> Mark did have other neat uses for USD $20M... a ride up to the space station. Lucky guy.
[10:38] <Luna-Tick> And to my mind one man shouldn't finance something that everybody used.
[10:39] <Luna-Tick> poningru: Is that how little it needs, or how little it can survive on while still keeping an internet site ;)?
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: Look at Wikipedia, how huge it is... and they need "only" about 1M USD per year. :)
[10:39] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, well wait until there is a call for cash in the mean time give the money to debian or freenode which also provide support to the project
[10:39] <Hendikins> bettong_BOFH: That isn't a Mozilla problem. Check you Gnome and application settings, specifically the URL handler.
[10:39] <daskog> odat: working fine
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: Compared to Ubuntu, which is much smaller, ... :o
[10:39] <poningru> bettong_BOFH: thats a prob with gnome, make sure you have gnome browser default as mozilla
[10:39] <poningru> or what hendi said
[10:39] <daskog> Thanks
[10:39] <bettong_BOFH> oh ok
[10:39] <bettong_BOFH> thank you very much
[10:39] <Tomcat_> Luna-Tick: You could give to Ubuntuforums.org... I did that once.
[10:39] <Irvine> how to run applications that install in wine?
[10:39] <ompaul> Luna-Tick, after all hundreds of problems get answered here every day
[10:40] <odat> daskog, did you get icon on the desktop yet?
[10:40] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: I couldn't code my way out of a wet paper bag. Documentation for example can be vastly more helpful than code at times, and is a very thankless task
[10:40] <Hendikins> poningru: evening
[10:40] <Tomcat_> Irvine: wine myapp.exe
[10:40] <poningru> morning :)
[10:40] <poningru> I should really go to bed
[10:40] <KarlosII> dang no help in samba
[10:40] <daskog> odat: what you mean icon?
[10:40] <KarlosII> every is dead atm
[10:40] <odat> daskog, icons i mean
[10:40] <Luna-Tick> Interesting point, Hendikins. Perhaps I should look into that.
[10:41] <poningru> Tomcat_: they dont even need that
[10:41] <daskog> odat, Im trying to pick up a nice theme but im not sure whats hot
[10:41] <bettong_BOFH> i have a question if i have .ogg files on my computer do i have to make them .mp3 to burn them to cd?
[10:41] <poningru> Tomcat_: we are just starting to hire people
[10:41] <odat> daskog, nuvola
[10:41] <bettong_BOFH> or can i switch everything over to .ogg
[10:41] <Luna-Tick> bettong: No
[10:41] <daskog> odat, found some nice icons thoe
[10:42] <poningru> Tomcat_: but most of the bandwidth is donated, a large percent of the boxen were donated as well
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> bettong: You can use .oggs very well within Ubuntu
[10:42] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: you mean to burn audio cds? they are made just as well from oggs
[10:42] <odat> daskog, go into synaptic and install gnome theme extras and then select nuvola
[10:42] <poningru> well after the last purchase a small percentage I guess
[10:42] <Tomcat_> poningru: Wikipedia? Yeah I was doing a pretty bad estimate there. :)
[10:42] <poningru> Tomcat_: yeah hehe
[10:42] <Jono_CT> can anybody help me with Hylafax?, I cannot get received fax's emailed.
[10:42] <bettong_BOFH> awsome cause i have some video files and lost of music is there an easyer way to switch them over from .mp3/.wma to .ogg/whatever is good for video?
[10:43] <poningru> ok I should really go to sleep
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> bettong: Creating an audio CD from .oggs should just be a drag-and-drop affair
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> nice
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> Serpintine should do it really well
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> it seems that .ogg sounds somewhat better than mp3 to me
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> thank you
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> I wouldn't convert them
[10:43] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: it sounds more free :)
[10:43] <bettong_BOFH> why not?
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> You are always best to preserve them in the original formats
[10:43] <mjr> bettong_BOFH, recoding existing mp3 and other files shouldn't usually be done; converting between lossy formats is bound to worsen the quality
[10:44] <Luna-Tick> Otherwise you are
[10:44] <Luna-Tick> There you go ;)
[10:44] <kareljan> can anyone help?
[10:44] <bettong_BOFH> hmmm
[10:44] <ompaul> !anyone#
[10:44] <ubotu> ompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:44] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:44] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:44] <kareljan> if i want to install something in /usr/local/bin it says that I have no permission
[10:44] <mjr> bettong_BOFH, ogg should be better, yes, when converted from the original non-lossy source
[10:44] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: when you compressed to mp3, something was lost. when you convert the mp3 to ogg, something else will be lost. the end result will bw worse than either
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> bettong: different formats drop different parts of music to get to the smaller file, so if you do one then the other, then you lose both parts
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> LOL
[10:45] <bettong_BOFH> i can't find that serpintine app in synaptic O_o
[10:45] <odat> daskog, well i gotta go to bed  i would tell you how to totally setup your system but have the fun is discovery and conquest
[10:45] <odat> lol
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> It is part of Ubuntu 5.10
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> serpentin
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> e
[10:45] <kareljan> can someone help me in a privatebox with an instalation
[10:45] <Luna-Tick> serpentine, not serpintine
[10:45] <kareljan> ?
[10:46] <Luna-Tick> If you use Breezy, I think it should just be in your sound and video menue
[10:46] <ompaul> kareljan, why not ask in the channel because no one knows if they can or can't until you ask the full question
[10:46] <daskog> odat, thank you so much
[10:46] <binarydigit> !tell kareljan about anyone
[10:46] <daskog> odat, realy preciated it
[10:46] <ompaul> kareljan, and surprisingly enough that is what the channel is here for
[10:47] <odat> daskog, no prob and seriously half the fun is discover and conquest  its all really cool and don't forget free lol
[10:47] <daskog> iknow
[10:47] <odat> see ya
[10:47] <daskog> yupp bye
[10:47] <kareljan> can someone tell me step by step what to do to install realvnc (www.realvnc.com)
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> ok i already have it due to automatix but i was wondering how to convert files already on the hard drive? from mp3 to ogg
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> it seems that it's a cd burning app
[10:48] <ompaul> !automatix
[10:48] <ubotu> methinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> hmm thats the first i have herd that
[10:48] <bettong_BOFH> why is it a secrety flaw?
[10:49] <xxenon> hello
[10:49] <xxenon> would it be possible to make-kpg linux-source-2.6.1x and install the .deb on a debian box ?
[10:49] <bob_4_a_day> howto close a screen in irssi-text ?
[10:50] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, it sets a root password iirc
[10:50] <Luna-Tick> I must confess that I am a little surprised at how negative people were towards donations. To me it is as good as any other way that one can help. They will use well whatever they get given and every little bit helps. Either way, it is better than other operating systems which I have paid many hundreds for, so I will throw a few dollars their way.
[10:50] <vega-> xxenon: sure
[10:50] <bettong_BOFH> omg
[10:50] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, amountg other things
[10:50] <kareljan> can anyone help me with the installation?
[10:50] <bettong_BOFH> that is horrible i will change that like right now or does it trash the box and i have to redoo it? >.<
[10:50] <vega-> and it install all pakcages with --force-all
[10:50] <vega-> which is really stupid
[10:50] <bettong_BOFH> if i had known that i would have avoided it like windows
[10:50] <ompaul> kareljan, using synaptic install these xvncviewer vncserver
[10:51] <bob_4_a_day> anybody know howto close a screen in irssi-text ?
[10:51] <TengkSA> What program do you use to burn cds/dvds?
[10:51] <GTswagger> Quirky question:  Where in the world can I find a tux stress ball?   There's NONE on eBay.   EVERY site I found on Google has like 150 qty minimums....
[10:51] <kareljan> ompaul: where do I find synaptic? I'm brand new in linux
[10:51] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: Money isn't a bad thing as such, there's just other ways to help that can be more effective than money.
[10:51] <ompaul> kareljan, the server is in the "repo" universe
[10:52] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: study the script and see what it does. you can then undo the worst stuff
[10:52] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: Even things like answering random questions in here helps, and it doesn't cost anything
[10:52] <Madpilot> kareljan: System menu - Admin - Synaptic
[10:52] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: of course, you could have studied in advance :)
[10:52] <ompaul> kareljan, system administation synaptic
[10:52] <Luna-Tick> Fair call, Hendikins: I do my best to help in *all* the ways that I can :)
[10:52] <kareljan> ompaul: can you guid me step by step i use the kde interface
[10:52] <bettong_BOFH> well i seen it in the ubuntu forums so i thought it was safe
[10:52] <ompaul> kareljan, no I don't do kde have a look in #kubuntu
[10:53] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: I'm just coming from the position of somebody who has provided valuable (and substantial) help to the Mozilla community without donating one brass razoo
[10:53] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: forums can have anything
[10:53] <binarydigit> kareljan: try using your eyeballs and exploring
[10:53] <Luna-Tick> Then we are lucky to have you on-board :)
[10:53] <bettong_BOFH> true where can i find this automatix script?
[10:53] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, well so much for your bofh attitude }:-> btw in a former life I was sirlartalot
[10:53] <KarlosII> Any samba helpers here?
[10:53] <Madpilot> bettong_BOFH: there's all sorts of stuff in the forums...
[10:53] <Hoxzer> can somebody tell me howto enable sound server?
[10:54] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: My interest in this IRC channel stems from the fact it is one of the places that is friendly and doesn't immediately send users upstream.
[10:54] <binarydigit> i am surprised he was able to get on irc
[10:54] <KarlosII> come to #samba if u are able to help with samba issues, I need help and seems everyone is asleep in there
[10:54] <bettong_BOFH> ompaul, lol so much for what? it runs fine so far i wasen't aware of the securety isshues thats all
[10:54] <ompaul> bettong_BOFH, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com both of these have the [cough]  canonical answers
[10:54] <topyli> heh. automatix seems to err on the safe side and installs absolutely everything. you end up with multiple browsers, media players, and generally a mess
[10:54] <TengkSA> What program do you use to burn cds / dvds??? ***********
[10:55] <ompaul> topyli, :-)
[10:55] <bob_4_a_day> i'll come back when i can find an irc client.   this irssi is the s***s
[10:55] <Hendikins> KarlosII: Why not ask in here? This channel is somewhat of a catchall.
[10:55] <ompaul> TengkSA, nautilus
[10:55] <mjr> TengkSA, nautilus (the burn:// location accessible from the menus), or gnomebaker
[10:55] <Hendikins> TengkSA: xcdroast/k3b, depending
[10:55] <KarlosII> Hendikins: ok
[10:55] <KarlosII> why is samba asking for username/domain/passwords when I try to access smb shares on my linux boxes from each other or a windows box?
[10:55] <KarlosII> why is samba asking for username/domain/passwords when I try to access smb shares on my linux boxes from each other or a windows box?
[10:55] <TengkSA> where does one find nautilus
[10:56] <ompaul> KarlosII, well #samba has samba experts we are not that :-) some of us would not even use smb protocol because of its lineage
[10:57] <KarlosII> ompaul: experts on hiatus atm and it was suggested in here that I ask here
[10:57] <Luna-Tick> Hendikins: Please don't take me as saying what you are doing isn't enough, it sounds like you help an awful lot! Personally I can't find the time to help out as much as I would like because I am working etc. So to me I like to 'top-up' my contribution with cash.
[10:57] <bettong_BOFH> i must have done something diffrent then as i only let it install what i needed
[10:57] <Irvine> how to run warcraft iii in wine?
[10:57] <Irvine> anyone
[10:58] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: well, then all is fine
[10:59] <ompaul> TengkSA, if you put in a blank CD in the burner it will fire up nautilus or on the command line >>nautilus<< or menu places >>Computer<<
[10:59] <bettong_BOFH> i just used it because it took 20min off haveing to search for what i commonly use
[10:59] <hyphenated> ompaul: just as a bit of trivia, the SMB protocol was invented by IBM
[10:59] <ompaul> KarlosII, you may figure from my answer I know nothing of it
[10:59] <bettong_BOFH> i'm not a complete noob to linux anymore though there are some things i think i still need to learn
[11:00] <KarlosII> ompaul: :)
[11:00] <ompaul> hyphenated, and a bit of other trivia it is used to interoperate with an O/S I don't use :)
[11:00] <ompaul> hyphenated, I should learn something about it but I keep getting diverted
[11:00] <KarlosII> yeah unfortunate that I have to interoperate with that o/s
[11:01] <hyphenated> KarlosII: you should make sure you have the correct security level for the server. "Share" level seems to be the right one if you want to be able to see the shares without authenticating with the server first
[11:01] <TengkSA> ompaul can u burn dvds with nautilus too
[11:01] <hyphenated> ompaul: fair enough (to both points)
[11:01] <KarlosII> hyphenated: and that is in smb.conf right?
[11:02] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: yeah. after a clean install though, i let usage show what i need. "oh, i have no foo-bar and need it". apt-get install foo-bar :)
[11:02] <Luna-Tick> You can even burn CDs or DVDs by right clicking the desktop icon and clicking copy CD, if I remember correctly
[11:02] <hyphenated> KarlosII: should be. personally, I'm a KDE weenie, and there's a frontend in the control center there.
[11:02] <KarlosII> haha
[11:02] <Hendikins> Luna-Tick: I didn't say there was anything wrong with that, did I? Although it is useful to look around and see where the cash may be of most use.
[11:02] <ubuntu__> Hello?
[11:02] <bettong_BOFH> right that what i do as well but over the last year in ubuntu i have learned what i need to run this box effectivly and keep the clutter down
[11:02] <bettong_BOFH> ^_^
[11:03] <hyphenated> KarlosII: look for a line "security =" in your smb.conf
[11:03] <bettong_BOFH> at first i installed everything i could and would ruin my box......no more ^_^.
[11:03] <x9> Ok, whaterver on my nick being protected.
[11:03] <x9> But, I have a problem.
[11:03] <x9> How do I remove an item from the applications menu?
[11:03] <KarlosII> hyphenated: it's set to user
[11:03] <topyli> KarlosII: still fighting the samba daemons i see ;-)
[11:04] <hyphenated> KarlosII: if it says "user" or "server" or somesuch, I imagine you'll get prompted
[11:04] <KarlosII> topyli: yep, I'm getting there, i conquered some of them as u see
[11:04] <topyli> yeah, at least it works
[11:04] <KarlosII> hyphenated: k chnaging it to share
[11:04] <x9> Hmm
[11:04] <TengkSA> is there a way of putting bootfix for windows on a bootable cd and making it fix the boot instructions
[11:05] <jazzman> hello, i have a complete newbie problem!
[11:05] <Hendikins> jazzman: Shoot.
[11:05] <topyli> jazzman: ask away
[11:05] <hyphenated> KarlosII: there's different reasons for having different settings. the man page says "You should also use security = share if you want to mainly setup shares without a password (guest shares)."
[11:05] <hyphenated> which I'm guessing is what you're after
[11:05] <KarlosII> k
[11:05] <Madpilot> x9: right click on the Application menu, select Edit Menus
[11:06] <jazzman> thnks. i have a folder on my desktop with a padlock on it. it is owned by root and i need to get rid
[11:06] <jazzman> i was trying to acess a 2nd hdd and i thought this would make a shortcut
[11:07] <TengkSA> what program do you use to compress images to jpg format? ******
[11:07] <hyphenated> TengkSA: I use imagemagick tools :-)
[11:07] <Madpilot> jazzman: have a look at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[11:07] <Irvine> how to install opengl?
[11:07] <jazzman> thnx
[11:07] <ompaul> TengkSA, what is with the ** do you want to convert from some pictures - I use things like gimp for that
[11:07] <hyphenated> the command 'convert filename.blah filename.jpg' and it's done all magically for me.
[11:07] <x9> Madpilot, Thanks!
[11:08] <Hendikins> Irvine: Do you need to install 3D drivers? a'la nvidia/ATI drivers?
[11:08] <x9> One other question.  Why is my video so slow?
[11:08] <Irvine> no
[11:08] <bettong_BOFH> is soundconverter a good app?
[11:08] <Hendikins> So you're simply wanting to install the mesa libs or such like?
[11:08] <TengkSA> ompaul no one answers my questions unless i put asterisks at the end :P umm no just when i save files i wanna save them as jpeg not png so they 2mb
[11:09] <Irvine> how to install it?
[11:09] <bettong_BOFH> so soundconverter is not a good app?
[11:09] <OC_Doppelganger> I just installed 5.10 and I must say I'm VERY impressed... I had tried warthog and hedhog, but this is perfect :D
[11:09] <TengkSA> hyphenated,  what is the alternative for itunes
[11:09] <Madpilot> Irvine: do you have an Nvidia or ATI card?
[11:09] <Irvine> no
[11:09] <Hendikins> What card do you use then?
[11:09] <hyphenated> TengkSA: *shrug* almost anything really
[11:10] <OC_Doppelganger> finally WPA and ipw2200 work flawlessly (afaik)
[11:10] <TengkSA> hyphenated, no to be able to update an ipod
[11:10] <OC_Doppelganger> sorry, I just had to say it :D
[11:10] <Irvine> no,how to check i am using which type of graphic card?
[11:10] <hyphenated> I dunno. I don't have an ipod. my girlfriend does, but doesn't use linux
[11:10] <Madpilot> Irvine: I'm still not sure what you mean...
[11:11] <Luna-Tick> iTunes equiv. is meant to be Rhythmbox
[11:11] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: well, it does seem to convert sound files so i guess lives up to its promises :)
[11:11] <bettong_BOFH> ok cool
[11:11] <dimitri> by mistake I put my top menu bar to the bean, how do I take it back ?
[11:11] <Irvine> Madpilot,i did not know the brands of my agp card
[11:11] <hyphenated> TengkSA: apparently amaroK can do it, but it's a KDE tool, so you might need some unwanted crap to make it run
[11:12] <TengkSA> hyphenated, how do u run imagemagick ive installed it through synaptic
[11:12] <Steil> TengkSA, gtkpod
[11:12] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[11:12] <x9> Is gtkpod safe?
[11:13] <dimitri> anyone please ?
[11:13] <hyphenated> TengkSA: from a shell
[11:13] <Steil> x9, I use it, it works fine
[11:13] <TengkSA> Seveas!!!
[11:13] <TengkSA> hyphenated, now how do i do that
[11:13] <Luna-Tick> dimitri, I don't quite understand, sorry
[11:14] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: I have put my menu bar (at the top) in the bean, so I don't have it anymore
[11:14] <Luna-Tick> In the rubbish bin?
[11:14] <hyphenated> TengkSA: I'm not about to teach you how to use a shell right now. find it and play with it, if you're interested
[11:14] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: well I think, since it happened when I was cleaning my desktop and I don't have my menu bar anymore
[11:15] <Madpilot> Irvine: try taking the side of your case apart?
[11:15] <topyli> TengkSA: it depends on what you want to do. to convert an image, use convert. to iimport a screenshot, use import. and so on
[11:15] <Luna-Tick> TenkSA: Applications > Accessories > Terminal
[11:15] <x9> ubuntu is cool.
[11:15] <dimitri> how can I do to reset my xserver then ?
[11:15] <bettong_BOFH> x9 you have no idea how cool it can actually be ^_^
[11:15] <dimitri> or is it my session ?
[11:16] <TengkSA> Steil, can i run gtkpod without having to use any commands
[11:16] <x9> bettong_BOFH, oh?
[11:16] <x9> All I know is that I'm running a LiveCD on my iBook and am doing everything that I normaly would under OS X.
[11:17] <Luna-Tick> TengkSA: Then you would type in the command - It could be "imagemagick" or whatever
[11:17] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: can you help me ?
[11:17] <stroh> it is recommend to uptade all updates ?
[11:17] <TengkSA> Steil,  can i run gtkpod without using commands
[11:17] <bettong_BOFH> x9 i have been useing ubuntu for about a year now and have found it to far exceed everything windows can do....it has not failed to impress me on a dayly basis....or quit working (unless i did something really dumb)
[11:17] <topyli> dimitri: i didn't know you can put panels in the trash. but anyway, you can create a new one to replace the deleted one
[11:18] <Irvine> ok
[11:18] <KarlosII> hyphenated: thanks problem solved, side question is the samba shares isolated from outside the network, as I dun even know whow to tell that ie outside the router on the wan
[11:18] <dimitri> topyli: yes for the panel but this does not seem to apply for the top menu bar
[11:18] <bettong_BOFH> x9 if you are a new user it will take some time to get used to....but it's worth every moment spent learning ^_^
[11:18] <dimitri> is there not a way to reset the session or whatever
[11:18] <x9> bettong_BOFH, I'm a debian fanboy and have been for years, but the ease of use for ubuntu is impressive.
[11:18] <topyli> dimitri: it's just another panel
[11:18] <Madpilot> dimitri: the menus are another panel bar item, right click on the panel & find the menu item
[11:19] <Luna-Tick> You can delete all your settings etc. by deleting the folder in Home, I think
[11:19] <topyli> dimitri: oh, i think Madpilot understood your question better than me
[11:19] <Luna-Tick> That would reset your menus AFAIK
[11:19] <bettong_BOFH> x9 i know it's one of like 5 i have tryed and i just stoped trying when i found it ^_^ it just fit me and my needs perfectly (i think if they ever did charge  would pay for it)
[11:19] <dimitri> Luna-Tick: which folder ?
[11:19] <bettong_BOFH> it's just that good ^_^
[11:20] <Luna-Tick> Good Question.... I am trying to figure that out...
[11:20] <dimitri> I have tried to do it with .gnome*
[11:20] <dimitri> but still
[11:20] <topyli> dimitri: don't delete anything. just add a "menu bar" to your top panel
[11:20] <dimitri> topyli: ok
[11:21] <x9> bettong_BOFH, I set my gf up with ubuntu and she had never used linux before.  She's doing very, very well :)
[11:21] <Madpilot> dimitri: right-click, choose Add To Panel, add the Menu Bar item - move it around until it's where you need it
[11:22] <dimitri> Madpilot: actually, I can't move it at the top as it seems that my menu bar is still there but transparent !
[11:22] <Luna-Tick> Oh. Thanks Madpilot. I didn't realise that that was the full default set!
[11:22] <Beleys> Poy
[11:23] <dimitri> this is annoying, I have to put everything back there !
[11:23] <Madpilot> dimitri: what happens when you right-click on where your menu bar should be?
[11:23] <dimitri> Madpilot: I have the same menu as if I click on the panel below
[11:24] <aftertaf> x9:  nice one mate :] 
[11:24] <dimitri> I have managed to make it appears again but there is nothing in it!
[11:24] <dimitri> how can I get my nice ubuntu logo ?!
[11:24] <Madpilot> dimitri: I think that comes with the menu set
[11:24] <Steil> TengkSA, gtkpod will appear in the applications menu under Sound & Video
[11:24] <TengkSA> cool it works thanks Steil
[11:25] <dimitri> Madpilot: you are right ! thanks
[11:25] <topyli> x9: it depends on what they want to do. a new colleague needed a computer. i asked what she needed to do. "write articles, surf the web and read email." so i set her up with ubuntu and she's a happy camper
[11:25] <x9> I bet.
[11:25] <x9> I'm very impressed.
[11:25] <dukebody> i have problems with sound in skype, it says my device is busy, i followed ubuntu guide and set alsa as my sound driver but it doesn't work
[11:25] <Hendikins> That's a point I have difficulty making to people about Linux
[11:26] <Steil> dukebody, kill esd
[11:26] <x9> The only trouble she had setting it up was due to a scratched install CD and her monitor only doing 640x480 till I manualy fixed xf86config.
[11:26] <Madpilot> Hendikins: the "it really does just work" point? :P
[11:26] <Hendikins> Madpilot: No, the "If you're starting from zero, *anything* is going to have a learning curve" point, when it comes to giving people new to computers Linux
[11:27] <topyli> Madpilot: what i mean is, she didn't say "to do qualitative discourse analysis with Atlas.ti and graphically browse Netware servers" :-)
[11:27] <x9> lol
[11:28] <Madpilot> Hendikins: IME there's as much of a learning curve from Win98 to WinXP as from Win to Ubuntu...
[11:29] <Hendikins> Madpilot: I'm not entirely sure. I'm more talking about people who haven't used Windows in the first place.
[11:30] <Madpilot> Hendikins: yeah, if they're really starting from zero, that's different
[11:30] <topyli> there's a learning curve from win98 to win98-in-another-day because you never know how it works today
[11:31] <Madpilot> "Microsoft: How Shall We Crash Today?" :P
[11:31] <Hobbsee> hehe @ Madpilot
[11:32] <Venson> or the optimistic "How many times shall we reboot today?"
[11:33] <topyli> gnome-bluetooth is still strange though. sometimes it works well, sometimes not
[11:33] <Madpilot> Venson: at least once every time you install something, no matter how trivial it is - even Acrobat Reader on Win wants to restart the machine... :P
[11:33] <topyli> hard to upgrade either, it seems to depend on almost everything :)
[11:33] <Ticho> Madpilot: of course this is not true for windows xp - it requires much less restarts than previous windows versions
[11:34] <rob1> Madpilot, doing remote support and having the pc rebooting after installing a trivial piece of software is pretty painful, although windows is not doing it as much these days, and even less so with vista
[11:34] <Madpilot> Ticho: actually, it was Acroread on XP that wanted the restart!
[11:34] <Ng> want or need? also, this is waaay off-topic ;)
[11:35] <rob1> billy gates
[11:35] <Madpilot> Venson: it's MS, it's the biggest target going :P
[11:35] <Madpilot> anyway, I need sleep - good night, all
[11:35] <Venson> right
[11:35] <Ng> Venson: one would hope that people would grow up and stop feeling a need to pick on things
[11:36] <TengkSA> How do you make your menu.lst file not Read only?
[11:36] <Hobbsee> Venson: the crashes and BSoD's that occur when the machine FUBAR's from *not* being rebooted recently
[11:36] <Venson> lol
[11:36] <Ng> TengkSA: use sudo to edit it :)
[11:36] <Venson> stability and price, then
[11:36] <TengkSA> Ng,  I wanna use gedit!
[11:37] <Hobbsee> TengkSA: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:37] <lucasvo> TengkSA: then use gksudo gedit blaaa
[11:37] <Venson> you don't gedit just coz you wandit
[11:37] <TengkSA> ok
[11:37] <topyli> TengkSA: don't fiddle with the permissions of system files whatever you do
[11:37] <TengkSA> ok
[11:38] <TengkSA> can someone help me with boot instructions for windows on ubuntu please.... in prvt
[11:38] <topyli> sudo will give you enough power to break them comfortably
[11:38] <ibaib> hi
[11:38] <neville> can someone tell me where i can find w32codecs? are there linux-mirrors for it?
[11:38] <Hobbsee> !tell neville about w32codecs
[11:40] <TengkSA> Please someone help with boot instructions!!
[11:42] <mrpink> hi everybody
[11:42] <mrpink> fist of all
[11:43] <mrpink> a happy new year to all
[11:43] <KarlosII> 2 days late :P
[11:43] <mrpink> i know:)
[11:43] <mrpink> an iam realy sorry
[11:43] <KarlosII> lol
[11:43] <mrpink> does anybody nknow if tre are w32 debs. for amd 64?
[11:44] <Venson> doubt it
[11:44] <topyli> mrpink: no, they are w32 after all
[11:44] <teroedni> hello trying to eject a live cd
[11:44] <topyli> mrpink: you'll have to try and do with gstreamer
[11:45] <ompaul> teroedni, it ejects when you tell it to shut down
[11:45] <Dashiva> there's a way you can do it
[11:45] <mrpink> topyli: i tried but i do not work
[11:45] <Dashiva> but it involves installing 32bit mplay in a chroot jail
[11:45] <Dashiva> *mplayer
[11:45] <ibaib> i have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?
[11:45] <teroedni> is there a way i can put the system in ram so i can eject the cd
[11:45] <topyli> mrpink: you installed gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg?
[11:46] <teroedni> i need to burn a iso
[11:46] <mrpink> topyli: yes
[11:46] <topyli> mrpink: that's good as you get :(
[11:46] <mrpink> hmm
[11:46] <topyli> mrpink: you can do the chroot magik like Dashiva says
[11:46] <bettong_BOFH> x9 thats awsome ^_^
[11:46] <mrpink> do you have a link
[11:46] <mrpink> ?
[11:47] <Dashiva> um
[11:47] <Dashiva> you might actually check the gentoo forums
[11:47] <mrpink> brb
[11:47] <vermoos> good morning
[11:47] <Dashiva> they do a lot of that sort of stuff
[11:47] <teroedni> is there no possibility to eject the cd?
[11:47] <Inf3ctedFx> hey ppl I have a question, netscape and firefox.. what is the big diference beside desing
[11:48] <mrpink> thx Dashiva and topyli
[11:48] <ibaib> HELP! i need somebodiii help
[11:48] <Hobbsee> !tell ibaib about ask
[11:48] <Inf3ctedFx> ibaib: what do u need?
[11:48] <ibaib> i have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?
[11:48] <topyli> Inf3ctedFx: netscape is based on old mozilla communicator code, firefox is a whole new standalone browser
[11:49] <Inf3ctedFx> oohh oks but netscape is good also right? topyli
[11:49] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition
[11:49] <cvogel> hi, does anyone know how to compile a .a/.so library with gcc?
[11:49] <topyli> Inf3ctedFx: i guess (haven't used it). it's probably full of aol and netscape branding and other annoyances. it also probably has some proprietary goodies
[11:50] <teroedni> Please:Does anyone knows what i should do
[11:50] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, I'm testing it right now and is full of goodies lol
[11:50] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition
[11:50] <teroedni> i have downloaded a iso and need to burn it
[11:50] <teroedni> but the livecd is in the burner and i cant eject it
[11:50] <topyli> teroedni: you can eject cd's yes. what's the problem?
[11:50] <Inf3ctedFx> and iso for what teroedni
[11:51] <ibaib> i have putted my mac's ip address as "anfitrin" on the ubuntu's network configuration
[11:51] <topyli> teroedni: oh the live cd. no, you can't eject it i guess
[11:51] <Venson> cvogel something like gcc foo.c -o foo.so
[11:51] <teroedni> x_x
[11:51] <cvogel> thanks, Venson
[11:51] <teroedni> im srewed then
[11:52] <topyli> teroedni: i'd use sysresccd or another smaller live cd that fits into memory and doesn't need to read the cd all the time
[11:52] <ibaib> hey anyone can help me?
[11:52] <teroedni> eject
[11:53] <teroedni> ups sorry
[11:53] <Inf3ctedFx> ok brb
[11:53] <sunrex> hows it going anything new happen
[11:53] <bettong_BOFH> ibaib whats up?
[11:53] <ibaib> i repeat
[11:53] <ibaib> sorry
[11:53] <ibaib> i have a local LAN where i have connected two computers (a PC with ubuntu & a MAC with OSX). I can see the "name" of the PC on the MAC's Network folder, but i can't share any folder of ubuntu system and see it on my MAC, cause it not connect correctly. I think it's ubuntu's problem, because when i had windows installed on the PC, works. I tried to configure with Samba and NFS but nothing...  Can anyone help me please?
[11:53] <teroedni> lol that was really easy
[11:54] <ibaib> i have putted my mac's ip address as "anfitrin" on the ubuntu's network configuration but nothing
[11:54] <teroedni> just neede to run root then eject
[11:54] <NoWhereMan> 2.6.15 is out and looks like conexant usb driver is supported ^^ does anubody know when it will be available on ubuntu repos?
[11:54] <bettong_BOFH> actually to be honist i have never networked a mac and ubuntu toghether although i am haveing the same isshue with ubuntu and the wifes windows box
[11:55] <ibaib> mmm
[11:55] <sunrex> anything new out
[11:55] <Hobbsee> NoWhereMan: dapper
[11:55] <eksajm> hello, where can i find nonfree unrar?
[11:55] <NoWhereMan> Hobbsee, already out?
[11:55] <topyli> teroedni: it ejected? now, i'm still afraid you can't run anything (like a cd creator) because the system will want to read it from the cd
[11:56] <Hobbsee> !tell NoWhereMan about dapper
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> Hobbsee, yeah, but I meant if it were already out on dapper repos :P
[11:57] <Hobbsee> yeah, it's been in dapper for ages...
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> huh :D
[11:57] <sunrex> whats dapper
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> good to hear
[11:57] <teroedni> topyli yes it ejected >root terminal eject
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> huh here's another :P
[11:57] <teroedni> need to download gnomebaker:P
[11:57] <neville> hi, where can i find the .deb for realplayer? is there one?
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> !tell sunrex anout dapper
[11:57] <NoWhereMan> !tell sunrex about dapper
[11:58] <topyli> teroedni: all you need to burn an iso is nautilus
[11:58] <Ng> dapper is released in April, don't use it until then
[11:59] <teroedni> topyli:Nautilus cant
[12:00] <joscha> hi
[12:00] <wildthing> hi
[12:00] <NoWhereMan> Hobbsee, but 2.6.15 has been yesterday, how could it be on dapper for so long O_o :P
[12:00] <wildthing> i need some help
[12:00] <topyli> teroedni: can't burn a cd? i burn all my cds with it
[12:00] <Ce_Dreaku> hello, who can please guide me through installing a new hard disk? I used the disk utility in the system administration tab but it doesn't allow me acces to the folder I chose as mirror for the hard disk partition
[12:00] <Hobbsee> NoWhereMan: there was a...beta version of it, i think - it wasnt official, and kept getting updated
[12:00] <NoWhereMan> huh ok I see
[12:01] <liable> Ng: then who files bugs? :)
[12:01] <wildthing> i 've just discovered ubuntu and i want to install qt on it
[12:01] <moodog> Morning all :)
[12:01] <teroedni> topyli:From where
[12:01] <eksajm> in what archive can i find unrar nonfree?
[12:01] <neville> hey, there has to be a legal (and clean) way to install realplayer!? come on
[12:01] <topyli> teroedni: right click on the iso, choose "burn"
[12:01] <wildthing> hey guys can u help me
[12:01] <topyli> or write, or whatever
[12:02] <NoWhereMan> neville, maybe universe repository?
[12:02] <Blaxter> maybe
[12:02] <NoWhereMan> neville, i meant MULTiverse
[12:02] <olicat> any ideas how i can get openoffice base to open an mdb file? or are there any apps that can do it?
[12:02] <Ng> liable: as a general rule of thumb, if you need to ask about the development branch, you don't want to be running it
[12:02] <Blaxter> or dl the installer @ web
[12:02] <topyli> eksajm: it's in multiverse
[12:03] <philippe__> Hi there
[12:03] <wildthing> where is the .profile plz?
[12:03] <philippe__> Happy new year
[12:03] <teroedni> topyli:THanks dident see that
[12:03] <eksajm> okey read the conversation above, and had never heard of it before. thanks mate
[12:03] <topyli> teroedni: doesn't get much easier does it :)
[12:03] <NoWhereMan> neville, there it is http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/realplayer
[12:04] <olicat> any ideas how i can get openoffice base to open an mdb file? or are there any apps that can do it?
[12:04] <Hendikins> NoWhereMan: 8.0? Are you nuts?
[12:05] <eksajm> Hendikins, have you read the wiki on codecs?
[12:05] <NoWhereMan> Hendikins, lol didn't see the ver :P
[12:05] <teroedni> no true
[12:05] <eksajm> i think there is a topic of realplayer
[12:05] <topyli> olicat: your patience lasts 1 min 20 seconds
[12:05] <eksajm> but i doubt you'd like what is says
[12:05] <teroedni> unfortunally it doesnt run without live cd:(
[12:05] <moodog> neville: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <Hendikins> eksajm: I don't need to install RealPlayer. I don't even use Ubuntu. neville is the one with the problem.
[12:05] <topyli> olicat: if you mean access databases, no openoffice cannot open them
[12:05] <olicat> topyli, it goes down in 20 second increments
[12:05] <topyli> :)
[12:05] <olicat> damn
[12:06] <L-seifer> hello
[12:06] <topyli> olicat: you may find some conversion scripts on freshmeat.net
[12:06] <olicat> i'll have a look, ta
[12:06] <eksajm> moodog, thats the wiki i talked about
[12:06] <neville> thank you, NoWhereMan. Hope it will work now.
[12:06] <spikeh> some applications such as VLC media player have a horrid monospace font, is it possible to change this?
[12:07] <moodog> eksajm: just though pointing to the correct page might help.  I'll ignore the fact that that page is the first response on google if you type "ubuntu realplayer"
[12:07] <L-seifer> could somebody please instruct me how to troubleshoot my X11 problem on Ubuntu Breezy, after building the native NVIDIA driver for 2.6.12, i get on startx "no screens found". and i cant seem to fix it after using the same entries that work on debian unstable
[12:08] <teroedni> topyli:What is the burn command in terminal?
[12:08] <moodog> ;)
[12:08] <TengkSA> What is the Boot Master program for Ubuntu and how do I access it?
[12:08] <TengkSA> Seveas,  are u there?
[12:08] <teroedni> im not giving up yet
[12:08] <morphix> hmm...
[12:08] <sirex> TengkSA: /boot/grub
[12:08] <morphix> how do i find out where openssl installation is?
[12:09] <moodog> L-seifer: what does lsmod | grep nvidia return ?
[12:09] <topyli> teroedni: cdrecord -dev=XXXX -speed=XXX file.iso (or something. i always have to read the man page)
[12:09] <morphix> i KNOW its installed.. but during compile.. the script cant seem to find it :(
[12:09] <Ng> L-seifer: you don't need to build the driver, it's available in the linux-restricted-modules package
[12:09] <L-seifer> moodog, the module is loaded
[12:09] <TengkSA> Does anyone know a lot about booting windows once ubuntu is installed? i would really appreciate if someone could help me
[12:09] <blue-frog> olicat, u can use use msaccess with openoffice read their faq on the websirte
[12:09] <L-seifer> Ng, but not the latest available version
[12:10] <spikeh> some applications such as VLC media player have a horrid monospace font, is it possible to change this?
[12:10] <sirex> TengkSA: boot loader on ubuntu is grub, config you can find on /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:10] <moodog> L-seifer: I assume you have Driver "nvidia" in the device sextion of your xorg.conf ?
[12:11] <blue-frog> topyli, openoffice2 opens msaccess...
[12:11] <L-seifer> moodog, yes
[12:11] <TengkSA> sirex,  but can you help me with adding windows to that list
[12:11] <topyli> blue-frog: it does?
[12:12] <blue-frog> yes
[12:12] <topyli> blue-frog: nice. i guess :)
[12:12] <sirex> TengkSA: if windows was intalled when you install ubuntu, then windows automaticali apears in that list..
[12:12] <TengkSA> sirex,  it doesnt
[12:12] <topyli> olicat: see blue-frog's good news
[12:13] <philippe__> Hi there, should someone give me some help for my printer ?
[12:13] <sirex> TengkSA: well, then just google for it and you find what you want, I thing there only need to add partition and its all..
[12:14] <TengkSA> sirex, what do i search for?
[12:14] <sirex> TengkSA: search query: grub ubuntu menu.lst
[12:15] <Nabiki> Anyone know the status of wifi under linux? ^_^ heheheh :P
[12:15] <vega-> philippe__: nobodys going to help someone who asks for "help", just ask a specific question to a specific problem...
[12:16] <topyli> Nabiki: yeah. i don't have it
[12:16] <morphix> how do i find out where openssl 'binary' is installed?? i need it to compile this app.
[12:17] <Ng> morphix: "which openssl"
[12:17] <Ng> morphix: probably /usr/bin/
[12:17] <couleur> salu
[12:17] <blue-frog> topyli, olicat the faq on ooo is for oo1 for oo2 it's even simpler to use mdb, just follow the wizard of oo base..
[12:17] <couleur> how are you
[12:18] <neville> sh... that realplayer-package is for 32 bit - i got amd64... is there a pack which fits
[12:18] <neville>  sh... that realplayer-package is for 32 bit - i got amd64... is there a pack which fits?
[12:18] <moodog> neville: think we heard you the first time
[12:19] <neville> just some lines above: (.deb pack for realplayer)
[12:22] <grantashman> Hey all.
[12:22] <grantashman> Anyone have any clue on how to change the resolution/refresh rate on GDM/Login Screen?
[12:22] <morphix> i dont get this.
[12:22] <TengkSA> whats that command for terminal to see all of your hard drives and partitions
[12:23] <sirex> TengkSA: sudo fdisk -l
[12:23] <intelikey> this is really sad.  i can't install gpm_1.19.6ubuntu.deb  with apt-get install it errors out with dpkg it errors out....
[12:23] <morphix> n
[12:23] <morphix> NG: SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/bin/".
[12:23] <vega-> TengkSA: cat /proc/partitions
[12:23] <morphix> doing 'which openssl' gives /usr/bin/openssl
[12:23] <morphix> :(
[12:24] <TengkSA> sirex,  can i talk to u in private please im just a bit confused i need to paste a few lines
[12:25] <Dark-boy> ei
[12:25] <Dark-boy> alguem pod da uma ajuda??
[12:25] <intelikey> did any of you know that /proc had to be mounted for console mouse to work ?
[12:27] <Ng> intelikey: /proc needs to be mounted for a lot of things to work :)
[12:27] <Ng> generally it should always be mounted
[12:27] <intelikey> Ng it needs to be umounted to secure this system.
[12:28] <Ng> err
[12:28] <Ng> no :)
[12:28] <voipbox> hallo
[12:28] <intelikey> ok i think that's everything....
[12:29] <intelikey> be back in a few.
[12:29] <Ng> intelikey: if you are thinking that unmounting /proc is going to secure something that has a mouse, you're wrong, I'd say ;)
[12:29] <voipbox> hi everybody
[12:31] <TengkSA> when i use the fdisk command it says my 80gb hard drive is hda2 but in my Places -> Computer  HDA1 is my 80gb hard drive? is it just the way that it has been mounted
[12:32] <moodog> hda is the disk
[12:32] <moodog> 1&2 are partions
[12:32] <TengkSA> oh sorry i never saw hdb is the 80gb
[12:32] <hunika> hello
[12:32] <hunika> help me
[12:33] <TengkSA> moodog,  so therefore in my boot settings if windows is in hda2 would i set it to be
[12:33] <hunika> how do i disable my firewall?
[12:33] <TengkSA> moodog, root (hd0,1)
[12:33] <liable> hunika: you dont have one.. (unless you installed one)
[12:34] <moodog> windows tends to want to be the first partion on the first disk.
[12:34] <hunika> liable: I have installed something
[12:34] <moodog> hunika: which firewall do you have?
[12:34] <hunika> liable: KMyFirewall
[12:34] <liable> hunika: so uninstall it?
[12:34] <hunika> liable: now i can not disable it
[12:34] <liable> hunika: or learn how to use it?
[12:34] <hunika> liable: if i uninstall it
[12:34] <moodog> hunika: what do the docs say?
[12:34] <tahorg> hunika: try a $iptables -F
[12:35] <hunika> liable: my net does not worls
[12:35] <tahorg> s/\$//
[12:35] <TengkSA> moodog, how do i do a virtual swap between the 2 partitions
[12:35] <hunika> tahorg: where? how?
[12:35] <tahorg> hunika: forget.
[12:35] <hunika> tahord: how can i shut down it? simply?
[12:35] <liable> hunika: there must be a menu thingo for it.. turn it off..
[12:35] <moodog> TengkSA: not sure what you want to do... sorry "virtual swap?"
[12:35] <hunika> no there is not just uninstall
[12:36] <theturtl> anyone know if there is a guide to tomcat5 on ubuntu?
[12:36] <TengkSA> i saw it on this one help site so it makes windows think that my first partition has windows and 2nd has ubuntu
[12:36] <hunika> liable: and if i uninstall it than my net does not works\
[12:36] <tahorg> hunika: explain "my net doesn't work"
[12:37] <hunika> tahorg: I can not connect to the internet, I can not open a website, I can not chat with yo
[12:37] <hunika> u
[12:37] <liable> hunika: i havent ever used it, sorry i guess i'll leave you in better hands..
[12:37] <hunika> liable: somebody told me that i should install a firewall and i installed it and now
[12:38] <stark-johan> is there a antivirus program for ubuntu that's "the" antivirus program or will I just have to find my favourite? I'd love some tips anyhow.
[12:38] <liable> hunika: but if it is a ubuntu package, and you uninstall it, and it breaks the network, then its broken...
[12:38] <bimberi> stark-johan: clam-av seems to get recommended a lot
[12:38] <hunika> liable: what should i do, how should i uninstall it?
[12:38] <liable> hunika: how did you install it to start with?
[12:39] <intelikey> gpm is broken.  and yes i tried it with /proc mounted also.
[12:39] <hunika> liable: I installed with adept package manager.
[12:39] <TengkSA> moodog,           grub> map (hd0) (hd1)
[12:39] <TengkSA>           grub> map (hd1) (hd0)
[12:39] <TengkSA> how do i carry out those commands
[12:39] <teroedni> topyli:Thanks for your help, unfortunally this livecd wont work. ut thanks for your time:
[12:40] <teroedni> :)
[12:40] <moodog> TengkSA: grub> would suggest you run them from the grub console.
[12:40] <moodog> so type sudo grub?
[12:40] <theturtl> Anyone ever installed Tomcat on ubuntu?
[12:40] <liable> hunika: apt-get?? so uninstall it with it too. sorry, i am off to bed. good luck
[12:41] <topyli> teroedni: get a little floppy distro like tomsrtbt and burn the install iso with it
[12:41] <chemaFPA> Hi, im try to isnsall samba with swat, but swat dont work, in Debian swat use /etc/inetd.conf but in Ubuntu this file is empty. How to do to init swat and samba in Ubuntu?
[12:41] <topyli> teroedni: then you'll have a working system in no time
[12:41] <TTilus> moodog: no, grub boot prompt i think
[12:42] <TengkSA> giving me an error while parsing number message
[12:42] <teroedni> topyli:I dont do floppy
[12:42] <NoWhereMan> Hi
[12:42] <intelikey> and i've got another question.  why is tty1 hosed on ubuntu ?
[12:42] <NoWhereMan> I've just updated to 2.6.15 from dapper and my usb moded worx ^^
[12:42] <teroedni> topyli:I trowed away evryone i have
[12:42] <morphix> how do i find out where openssl is installed?? i need it to compile this app.
[12:43] <NoWhereMan> now I've got this issue: I don't see the boot splash anymore
[12:43] <topyli> teroedni: don't have or don't do? it would be better to have the cd free when you're burning stuff :)
[12:43] <intelikey> morphix dpkg can tell you  man dpkg
[12:43] <teroedni> dont have
[12:43] <teroedni> only on a windows pc, but that is mission impossible
[12:43] <SirKillalot> do you know any sound converster which can change mp3 bitrate of a track?
[12:44] <SirKillalot> converter*
[12:44] <topyli> teroedni: perhaps you need to borrow somebody else's machine for a while then
[12:44] <intelikey> SirKillalot sox might
[12:44] <topyli> teroedni: or see if you can find a nice usb stick distro to do your burning on
[12:45] <teroedni> topyli:Yes i have usb disk:D
[12:45] <teroedni> anyway i put the livecd in dvd now
[12:45] <teroedni> :)
[12:46] <topyli> teroedni: sounds like a plan :)
[12:46] <teroedni> yea but i have to download again><
[12:46] <intelikey> anybody ever investigate what it is that messes up the fonts on tty1 ?
[12:46] <teroedni> Topyli:Thanks for the help:)
[12:47] <topyli> happy hacking
[12:48] <kino-tak> Goodyear and Michelin everybody!!!!
[12:53] <Seveas> kino-tak, doh :p
[12:54] <kino-tak> :-)
[12:54] <kino-tak> Does anybody know any good H323 client for ubuntu?
[12:55] <topyli> the year is very old. so old in fact that i've already paid the bills due at the end of last year :)
[12:55] <Ng> kino-tak: gnome meeting?
[12:55] <topyli> gnomemeeting is about all we have
[12:56] <Ng> ohphone claims to be an h323 client
[12:59] <Seveas> kino-tak, H323?
[01:02] <utada> hello , i just installed ubuntu breezy dual booting with winxp, and i get shortcuts on my gnome desktop to those xp partitions, but i don't want to access those via ubuntu, how do i make them go away?
[01:03] <teroedni> live cd wont mount the other cdrom
[01:03] <teroedni> hrmf
[01:03] <utada> it's not a live cd
[01:03] <utada> i actually installed it
[01:03] <utada> and i'm dual booting with winxp
[01:04] <morphix> utada.. unmount them.
[01:04] <utada> i just wanna unmount and get rid of those shortcuts, cuz i don't intend to access those xp partitions via ubuntu
[01:04] <utada> how?
[01:04] <morphix> you know 'where' they are mounted?
[01:04] <utada> hd1
[01:04] <utada> hda1
[01:05] <morphix> if they show up on ur desktop then usually they are mounted in /media/*
[01:05] <Belutz> check the /etc/fstab
[01:05] <utada> it won't delete them or anything if i unmount them wouldn't it?
[01:06] <Belutz> no, it won't delete them
[01:06] <utada> i can find /etc/fstab
[01:06] <morphix> this is bullcrap..
[01:07] <utada> i mean i CAN'T find /etc/fstab
[01:07] <Belutz> morphix, are you in sydney?
[01:07] <morphix> i installed openssl to /usr/loca/ssl .. but during compile it says that its NOT installed there
[01:07] <morphix> :@
[01:07] <morphix> Belutz: i
[01:07] <morphix> i'm* 2 hours from there
[01:07] <Belutz> morphix, i see
[01:07] <morphix> central coast
[01:07] <morphix> why?
[01:07] <Belutz> morphix, i just have been there :p
[01:07] <morphix> cool.
[01:07] <utada> please how do i unmount them?
[01:08] <hat> !w32codecs
[01:08] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:08] <Belutz> utada, do you want to unmount them permanently?
[01:08] <pa_l> Hi, when configuring sip-4.3.2, where do i set the QTDIR enviroment variable to?
[01:08] <utada> yes i do belutz
[01:09] <utada> i have no intention of accessing my windows partitions via ubuntu ever
[01:09] <Belutz> utada, with your terminal type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:10] <utada> ok i did
[01:10] <Belutz> utada, and remove the line that has /media/*
[01:10] <utada> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:10] <utada> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:10] <utada> just remove them?
[01:10] <Belutz> hmm
[01:10] <morphix> hda5 = swap partition
[01:10] <utada> i don't see a line that says media
[01:10] <morphix> oh wait no
[01:10] <morphix> oops.
[01:10] <utada> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:10] <utada> #
[01:10] <utada> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:10] <utada> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:10] <utada> /dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hda5       /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:11] <Belutz> yup, but in case you need them... just add # in the front of the line
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:11] <utada> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:11] <utada> sorry
[01:11] <Belutz> utada, please don't paste in here
[01:11] <utada> sorry :(
[01:11] <utada> won't removing those line delete them completly?
[01:11] <Mabus06> comment them out, or backup the file
[01:11] <Mabus06> or both
[01:11] <Belutz>  just add # in the front of the  /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5 line
[01:11] <utada> oh ok
[01:11] <utada> thanx
[01:12] <utada> no but i mean
[01:12] <utada> will i be able to load xp if i want to?
[01:12] <kemik> yes
[01:12] <Belutz> you still be able to boot to windows xp
[01:12] <utada> thanx
[01:12] <stark-johan> I've installed clamAV but Im not sure on how to update it using freshclam, the synaptic package seems to be outdated (according to freshclam)
[01:12] <utada> i'll try it out
[01:12] <Mabus06> I don't know, I just started reading now, don't really know what I'm looking at. ;-)
[01:12] <Mabus06> but yeah, backup the file
[01:13] <SillyZ> mornin
[01:13] <SillyZ> need a little vmware help, I config it via vmware-config.pl, and after the config completes successfully, i try to run it and it says its not configured??.... any ideas? ( ubuntu breezy 5.1 )
[01:14] <topyli> doesn't vmware have some support that actually knows something about vmware?
[01:15] <morphix> this is really pissing me off. can someone plz help me with this compiling.. it says ssl installed but binary NOT where i KNOW it is.
[01:16] <Mabus06> there are often "die" lines or something equivalent in config files that you have to remove... to make sure you've completely configured
[01:16] <Seveas> morphix, apt-get install libssl-dev
[01:16] <bettong_BOFH> i'm starting to think that mozillas spam filters suck >.<
[01:16] <Seveas> !tell morphix about compiling
[01:16] <Mabus06> agreed, bettong_BOFH
[01:17] <Mabus06> Well.. more like, spammers have more money to develop ways of spamming you, than mozilla has to protect you from it.
[01:17] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, mozilla thunderbird?
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> yea
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> i had 33 emails and all where spam
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> for some reason they think i need bigger boobs O_o
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> i don't think they realize that i am a guy lol
[01:17] <bettong_BOFH> morons
[01:17] <topyli> bettong_BOFH: fetchmail/procmail/spamassassin might do a better job
[01:17] <Mabus06> Oh I thought you meant the popup blocker.
[01:17] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, i see, have you tried thunderbird 1.5 rc ?
[01:18] <Mabus06> Use gmail.
[01:18] <stupidclient> oh ok ... was gonna say is possable to a server on ubuntu but looks like its been answered
[01:18] <metho> can i ask u really noob question, (its about firewall), i just installed firehole or something using Synaptic but i dont know where it is installed!!!! could u help me!
[01:18] <Mabus06> Only spam that gets through to me is when the sender part is forged to someone in my address book.
[01:18] <stupidclient> *to run a server
[01:18] <SillyZ> topyli, thanks but I think I found the answer : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare    for anyone else who wants to know
[01:18] <bettong_BOFH> i'm useing 1.0.7
[01:18] <Mabus06> metho, whats it called? firestarter?
[01:18] <Belutz> Mabus06, my gmail still accepting spams :p
[01:19] <metho> mabus06. i think its called firehole
[01:19] <Mabus06> try typing "firehole" at a terminal
[01:19] <bettong_BOFH> so what would you reccomend Belutz for a good email app thats gonna get rid of this spam?
[01:19] <Mabus06> or go to places > search... type firehole
[01:19] <topyli> metho: where did you get it? nothing like that on the repos
[01:19] <Mabus06> why do you need to know "where it's installed" though?
[01:20] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, well, i only use sylpheed-claws to pop my email from gmail, cause i don't have any other pop enabled email
[01:20] <metho> mabus06. sorry its called firehol
[01:20] <bettong_BOFH> it's driveing me nut's is there some way to like filter emails by putting addresses in from only those you wish to receve mail from?
[01:20] <bettong_BOFH> oh ok
[01:20] <stupidclient> cheers anyway......bye bye
[01:20] <Mabus06> why do you need to know where it's installed, metho ?
[01:20] <bettong_BOFH> so like if the people are not on my list i don't get the mail?
[01:21] <morphix> still doesnt help
[01:21] <intelikey> is there anyway to fix the consoles in ubuntu ?
[01:21] <metho> mabus06. so i can configure or i may want to know what it is blocking or what isnt!!!
[01:21] <morphix> i HAVE openssl.
[01:21] <Mabus06> try running the program...
[01:21] <Mabus06> or read man firehol
[01:21] <topyli> metho: ok, it seems like a simple firewall script. the config file is probably somewhere under /etc/firehol, and the init script in /etc/init.d
[01:21] <Mabus06> as I said, search for files, type firehol
[01:22] <metho> topyli: oh i see: isnt there a GUI firewall for ubuntu 5.10
[01:22] <topyli> metho: sure. firestarter
[01:22] <Mabus06> firestarter
[01:22] <Mabus06> this ain't XP though, I've gotten along fine without a firewall
[01:23] <metho> topyli: thanks, i'll install that!
[01:23] <topyli> metho: do you have a reason to fiddle with firewalls?
[01:24] <metho> topyli: not really m8, i just read somewhere that Linux isnt that secure anymore so i decided to protect my data (thats all)
[01:24] <bettong_BOFH> so is there a way to filter email by a list that has only those people you want to receve emails from?
[01:24] <topyli> metho: tha't hogwash
[01:24] <topyli> *that's
[01:24] <McJerry> morphix: you still got problem?
[01:25] <magrao> join #ubuntu-br
[01:25] <metho> topyli: lol
[01:25] <Hendikins> metho: and a certain OS that has a WMF flaw is secure? :P
[01:25] <topyli> metho: protecting your data is good of course. firewalls don't help you with it one bit though
[01:25] <Hendikins> (and they reckon that WMF flaw may go back as far as Win 3.0 too)
[01:25] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, maybe you should manually create the filters one by one?
[01:25] <metho> topyli: so what would u suggest for protecting data
[01:26] <bettong_BOFH> if i where going to do that in thunderbird how would i?
[01:26] <morphix> McJerry yes
[01:26] <Mabus06> bettong_BOFH, don't most email providers have an option to only accept addresses from your contact list? I think even hotmail has that.
[01:26] <morphix> McJerry i am trying to compile this.. and it needs the location of openssl install
[01:26] <bettong_BOFH> i have charter email and i am looking for that kind of option now
[01:26] <morphix> i have specified the dir.. but it still insists it ISNT there
[01:27] <McJerry> what are you trying to compile?
[01:27] <morphix> i feel like throwing the box out the windw
[01:27] <metho> topyli: one general question, would linux be alrite, i mean secure enoguh to protect data without a firewall?
[01:27] <Belutz> bettong_BOFH, there's a menu called "Filter" but i don't remember the menu hierarchy
[01:27] <morphix> psyBNC
[01:27] <bettong_BOFH> ok
[01:27] <morphix> with ssl.
[01:27] <Mabus06> metho, get a external hd for important data
[01:27] <Mabus06> protect data for what purpose, metho
[01:28] <McJerry> morphix: not familiar with psyBNC, but gimme a sec to look
[01:28] <topyli> metho: yes. keep your services (if any) secure, and don't be a fool when doing admin stuff
[01:28] <morphix> ok cool.
[01:29] <topyli> metho: have good passwords and use ssh for talking to/from the outside world
[01:29] <metho> Mabus06: protecting from hackers, i mean i just got my online backing id, thats what i decided to install firewall but if u think linux is secure enoguh than i wont mess with it
[01:30] <metho> topyli: ssh? sorry i am noob in Linux world and i dont know what u mean
[01:30] <Belutz> anyone knows when will firefox 1.5 available in the repos?
[01:30] <Mabus06> secure shell
[01:30] <topyli> metho: seems like you don't need it either :)
[01:30] <Mabus06> in dapper, belutz
[01:30] <Hendikins> A firewall is part of the security framework. It is not the be all and end all.
[01:30] <Belutz> Mabus06, i see
[01:31] <intelikey> only secure box is the one not plugged in.
[01:31] <Mabus06> And considering you have to have ports open anyway if you want to be online, people can still get in if they really wanted and knew how.
[01:31] <Hendikins> intelikey: and dropped on the ocean floor encased in steel and concrete
[01:31] <Mabus06> Wise words, intelikey. lol
[01:31] <Mabus06> And even then, not secure from your household.
[01:31] <topyli> metho: if you want to run a service for the outside world, you don't want to firewall it out anyway. and ports with no services listening to them are pretty much dead ports
[01:32] <metho> topyli: now u talking!!! thanks for all your help
[01:32] <Mabus06> metho Setting up firewall scripts you don't understand will cause you more problems than any potential (and unlikely) 'hackers'
[01:32] <intelikey> Mabus06 i meant the AC plug    as in no power at all.
[01:33] <Mabus06> Even then, intelikey, I can take out the HD and put it in my box..
[01:33] <McJerry> morphix : what dir are you telling psyBNC for ssl
[01:33] <metho> Mabus06: thx for the advise, i decided not to install firewall
[01:33] <morphix> McJerry: /usr/local/ssl
[01:34] <intelikey> Mabus06 that does not make the box you removed it from nsecure'
[01:34] <metho> Mabus06: i have removed firehol as well
[01:34] <morphix> put the case in a safe :P
[01:34] <morphix> thats secure.
[01:34] <Jack-Ho> hey, i have an rar arcvih and it protected whith pass, i know the pass but how can i extrc him?
[01:34] <Mabus06> metho, don't ruleout using firestarter or something, if you feel like it
[01:34] <Jack-Ho> unrar -x file
[01:34] <Jack-Ho> dosnt work
[01:35] <McJerry> morphix: i have openssl installed also, and typing ls /usr/local/ssl returns no such directory
[01:35] <Seicherl> hi there! How good is ubuntu/linux in read-writing NTFS systems?
[01:35] <Mabus06> how 'good'?
[01:35] <morphix> i remove openssl.. then compiled it..
[01:35] <b0ris> Seicherl, Good at reading for sure
[01:35] <metho> Mabus06: hmmmmmm, ok i'll give firestarter a shot!!!
[01:35] <Mabus06> About as good as the user knows how to make it do.
[01:35] <smo> I hate to say it, but ntfs write support on linux is nothing short of dangerous
[01:36] <morphix> it installed to /usr/local/ssl
[01:36] <Hendikins> Linux in general is not good for writing ntfs
[01:36] <intelikey> i can't seem to get tty1 to display properly,  has any of you ever tried ?
[01:36] <morphix> it has all the files in there, etc
[01:36] <topyli> metho: a firewall is handy when you have clients on the network and want to do NAT or something. or, when you have temporary experimental services you can't be bothered to configure properly :)
[01:36] <Mabus06> ever tried? um yeah, sure... intelikey
[01:36] <morphix> including the openssl in the /usr/local/ssl/bin folder
[01:36] <Hendikins> There is a wrapper for the Windows NTFS driver, but I don't know how well that works on Ubuntu.
[01:36] <b0ris> Seicherl, did not try writing, but it is known to be quite hazardous
[01:36] <Seicherl> ok, so i will need a FAT-Partition, when running stupid win AND ubuntu on one machine
[01:37] <Hendikins> Using FAT32 for data would be desirable, yes.
[01:37] <metho> topyli: the computer i am using atm is client of my home network!!!!
[01:37] <morphix> Seicherl: u can do it a dif way.. use windows to copy stuff to ur linux hdd
[01:37] <Seicherl> ok, i thought so. just think asking is for free ;)
[01:37] <morphix> using ext2ifs
[01:37] <Seicherl> ??
[01:37] <metho> topyli: i think firestarter would be good choice for home network, what u think?
[01:37] <b0ris> Seicherl, if you can afford it, use a network drive (samba share) to share your data between Win and Unix. It is more secure
[01:38] <morphix> Seicherl: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm
[01:38] <topyli> metho: that's cool. i configured a firewall because this is the _server_ as well as my desktop, and routes the internet to clients
[01:38] <Hendikins> morphix: FAT32 is the easier and better supported choice if you're using only one machine.
[01:38] <intelikey> WHY DoeSn'T TTY1 WoRK CoRReCTLY   <--- and that was with caps lock
[01:38] <topyli> metho: firestarter is good for simple setups. it's what i use
[01:38] <Seicherl> b0ris: i'm talking about one single machine.
[01:39] <Seicherl> I think i'll stay old-school like and use a fat swap partition
[01:39] <Mabus07> tty1 works just fine for me, intelikey
[01:39] <metho> topyli: thats what i am installing, and also every ubuntu website mentions this firewall for some reasons therefore i think it would be good choice to have!!!!
[01:39] <b0ris> Seicherl, then, yes, fat32 is the right choice (though not secure)
[01:39] <Seicherl> secure concerning what?
[01:39] <intelikey> mabus07 have you tried mc or anything like that in it ?
[01:40] <topyli> metho: it's popular because it's a clickety-clickety easy setup with a GUI
[01:40] <morphix> i think i'll give up on psyBNC. stupid ssl crap.
[01:40] <intelikey> the fonts are all screwed up here
[01:40] <Mabus06> mc, intelikey ?
[01:40] <xiaogil> is it possible to be notified that a new email is arrived with evolution ?
[01:40] <Hendikins> Seicherl: permissions and the like, but if you're the only user, that's moot anyway
[01:40] <intelikey> yes mc
[01:40] <intelikey> mc = midnight commander
[01:40] <Seicherl> Hendikins: yes i am.
[01:40] <intelikey> !info mc
[01:40] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[01:40] <Mabus06> what do you mean by mc... I just connected with irssi and said that... you weren't very specific
[01:41] <Mabus06> ok
[01:41] <Hendikins> Seicherl: Well, if you're the only user, anything else is adding needless complexity to the situation.
[01:41] <Seicherl> ok, another one: when installing ubuntu, a friend told me, i can shrink my ntfs-partition easily. that true?
[01:41] <metho> topyli: thanks topyli, only if i found it where it is installed. one question how do u find in general where ur programs are installed, i mean in windows its in program files but how do u find in Linux!!!
[01:41] <Mabus06> I'll try it out, intelikey
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> Seicherl: yes
[01:41] <intelikey> Mabus06 yes irssi is hosed too on tty1    you are on tty1  not tty2  ?
[01:41] <Seicherl> how easy is easy
[01:41] <pa_l> where can i find realplayer
[01:41] <Hendikins> Seicherl: I know that Linux installers can shrink NTFS, but I suggest defragging the NTFS volume first
[01:42] <pa_l> or any compatible media players that can play .ram files
[01:42] <topyli> metho: you don't care. the commands will be in your path, and if there's a GUI, it will be in the menu
[01:42] <Seicherl> Hendikins: thats what i'm doing right now
[01:42] <pa_l> reaplayer on realplayer.com is not working here.
[01:42] <mik3> vlc media player is really good, videolan.org i think
[01:42] <intelikey> Mabus06 tty2-63  work fine.  only tty1 is borkd
[01:42] <Mabus06> I am on X, intelikey
[01:42] <Seicherl> anybody running ubuntu on a thinkpad?
[01:42] <Mabus06> mabus07 connnected on tty1
[01:42] <pa_l> mik3 i have vlc but it doesnt play .ram files
[01:42] <topyli> metho: the binaries should go to /usr/bin, libraries to /usr/lib and so on. there's no "Program Files" directory
[01:42] <mik3> k
[01:42] <Mabus06> intelikey, but he quit in order to install mc to check it out
[01:43] <intelikey> Mabus06 and Mabus07 not same ?
[01:43] <Hendikins> Seicherl: Do you have specific questions about using Ubuntu on thinkpads?
[01:43] <metho> topyli: i get it, cheers
[01:43] <Mabus06> intelikey, no, we are the same, but we were connected on different terminals
[01:43] <Seicherl> Hendikins: not now, but i will soon ;)
[01:43] <Mabus06> intelikey, and... mc works just fine for me, and this install is pretty close to the default
[01:44] <topyli> metho: if you're interested, it's all here: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[01:44] <Seicherl> Hendikins: I found some howtos for debian, but not yet for ubuntu
[01:44] <Hendikins> Seicherl: Checked the Ubuntu wiki?
[01:45] <Seicherl> not yet. can you hand me the url?
[01:45] <topyli> Seicherl: debian documentation is good for ubuntu as well
[01:45] <Seicherl> thx
[01:45] <metho> topyli: offcourse i am inerested m8, i dont wana be noob anymore, its been 2 months since i started using linux!!! LOL
[01:45] <topyli> heh
[01:45] <intelikey> hmmmm so you are telling me that on your box mc looks the same on tty1 as it does on tty*+1  ????    then why the hell doesn't mine ?
[01:45] <Hendikins> Seicherl: The Ubuntu wiki is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[01:45] <Seicherl> I got only a bit of debian experience. will i be able to handle ubuntu?
[01:45] <ubuntu_> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how i make X use my own xorg.conf in the ubuntu live cd environment (5.10), it doesnt seem to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i logout
[01:45] <Seicherl> Hendikins: thx for that!
[01:46] <captainredbeard> anybody here able to help me with VMware?
[01:46] <Hendikins> captainredbeard: We can't if you don't ask us a question :)
[01:46] <alamba> captain: sure...shoot!!
[01:47] <Seicherl> everybody: thanks so far! I'm pretty sure i'll show up here again the next days! But thanks for your support so far!! happy new year!
[01:47] <captainredbeard> ok Hendikins, it works fine without networking, but no matter which one i try it doesn't work. And if I used bridged networking, and enable it, VMware hangs, and sometimes drags ubuntu down with it
[01:47] <intelikey> installing svgatextmode to see if that helps.
[01:47] <Hendikins> captainredbeard: First things first, are you using Breezy and VMware 5.5.1?
[01:48] <morphix> WHY THE <CENSORED>
[01:48] <captainredbeard> Hendikins, breezy with kernel image 686, VMware5.5.0 build 18463
[01:48] <Hendikins> If it is reasonable, take 5.5.1 for a spin. Your problem may be fixed in the later version.
[01:48] <metho> topyli: again i m being noob! how do i find out firestarted, it should be in menu as it is a GUI but its not there
[01:49] <morphix> this linux box will end up outside any second now.
[01:49] <Seveas> morphix, that would be a waste
[01:49] <topyli> metho: should be in apps -> system tools
[01:49] <neron> hello is there any1 who knows the page that tells you how to install latest java support for firefox in ubuntu?!?
[01:49] <Seveas> !javadeb
[01:49] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:49] <Seveas> ^-- neron
[01:49] <captainredbeard> Hendikins, I've read of others having the same problem with different versions aswell, theres a patch for it, but not for version 5.5
[01:49] <morphix> Seveas well it isnt like its fkn working
[01:50] <metho> topyli: no m8 its not there
[01:50] <Seveas> morphix, please elaborate, we may help
[01:50] <topyli> metho: if your menu hasn't updated, just run "sudo firestarter" from a terminal. you'll probably only need to run it once anyway
[01:50] <morphix> i've told.
[01:50] <Seveas> morphix, k, I'll read back :)
[01:50] <topyli> metho: linux firewalls don't need to be running all the time. the gui is just for configuration, and then it's done
[01:50] <Hendikins> neron: Interestingly enough, I'm writing up a page about Firefox plugins on Ubuntu. It lives at http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html
[01:50] <topyli> metho: it just sets some rules for the iptables in the kernel, and quits
[01:51] <morphix> i am trying to compile psyBNC with ssl.. but it keeps coming up that the dir i specified doesnt contain the openssl binary
[01:51] <morphix> yet i know it does.
[01:51] <neron> gotta check that ;)
[01:51] <morphix> i have tried like 10 dirs.. and used locate ,etc also even compiled openssl and tried do it that way
[01:51] <morphix> nothing will work.
[01:51] <kenkku> I'm trying to get teamspeak working, which audio source should I use.. the default (/dev/dsp) isn't working
[01:51] <metho> topyli: i see,
[01:51] <Seveas> morphix, for compiling you need openssl headers (package libssl-dev), these headers are in /usr/include or /usr/include/openssl
[01:52] <morphix> i have also used that dir
[01:52] <morphix> it still says the same.
[01:52] <TengkSA> Seveas, !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:52] <Seveas> morphix, did you install that package?
[01:52] <topyli> metho: it installs a script in your bootup sequence. the script applies the kernel rules at every boot, so you don't need to worry
[01:52] <Seveas> if so: pastebin the complete output of configure and/or make
[01:52] <Seveas> in the mean time, I'm hiding from TengkSA
[01:53] <metho> topyli:i see, so basically u just configure once and thats it?
[01:53] <TengkSA> Seveas, im dead im fcked
[01:53] <morphix> Seveas: yes
[01:53] <morphix> Seveas: SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/include/".
[01:53] <Seveas> TengkSA, how?
[01:53] <topyli> metho: that's it
[01:54] <metho> topyli:i see, so basically u just configure once and thats it
[01:54] <metho> topyli: sorry, lol
[01:54] <captainredbeard> !vmware
[01:54] <morphix> SSL-Support: Yes, but no openssl binary found in "/usr/include/openssl/".
[01:54] <morphix> same thing
[01:54] <hk> captainredbeard,  hmm vmware 5.5.1 works fine on breezy (amd64)
[01:54] <morphix> GRR
[01:54] <Seveas> morphix, hmm, what if you simpy use /usr?
[01:54] <captainredbeard> hk, with netowrking?
[01:54] <Seveas> the openssl binary is in /usr/lib/
[01:54] <hk> yea
[01:54] <topyli> metho: if you want to monitor the blocked traffic, you can of course keep the GUI open
[01:54] <captainredbeard> hk, i'll give it a shot then
[01:54] <TengkSA> Seveas, i cant get back in to windows no matter how hard i try
[01:55] <morphix> Seveas
[01:55] <morphix> OMG
[01:55] <topyli> metho: but watching misconfigured windows boxen trying to connect to you gets pretty boring after a while :)
[01:55] <hk> captainredbeard, Im connecting my winXP VM to a samba server in another box ;)
[01:55] <morphix> it worked
[01:55] <morphix> LOL.
[01:55] <morphix> thanks
[01:55] <Seveas> morphix, cool :)
[01:55] <Seveas> now for the next error from ./configure ;)
[01:55] <TengkSA> What software do you use BESIDES MythTV to watch tv from a tv card in ubuntu?
[01:55] <morphix> i know i can always rely on u guys(or girls) in here :)
[01:55] <Mabus06> it's what makes ubuntu the best, moritz
[01:56] <Mabus06> morphix, that is
[01:56] <metho> topyli: i am configuring firestarter now, but i am keep getting the following error "the local area and connected internet connected devices can not be the same"
[01:56] <topyli> metho: they can't. :)
[01:56] <topyli> metho: since your box is a client, you only have a internet device
[01:57] <TengkSA> aeveas what do u recommend i do
[01:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, ^^ ^^
[01:57] <lotuz> Hi, i have just reinstalld ubuntu, And I need to run Windows at the same time, but when i chose "Windows" in the Grub menu it stops after "root savedefault
[01:57] <lotuz> makeactive
[01:57] <lotuz>  chainloader	+1"  pls help....
[01:57] <Seveas> TengkSA, completely wipe windows and use only Ubuntu
[01:57] <TengkSA> What program can i use to watch TV from a TV Card besides MythTV, anyone?!?
[01:57] <metho> topyli: network device? so basically i dont need to share my connection cos i am client?
[01:57] <Seveas> but that may not be what you want :)
[01:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, : i have to use windows too
[01:57] <topyli> metho: right
[01:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, certain programs for school work etc
[01:57] <kenkku> which system should I use for audio, ALSA, ESD or OSS?
[01:58] <Mabus06> TengkSA, if you got an nvidia card, try #nvidia. if you have an ati, try #ati. if you have something else, welcome to 2006, get a real card.
[01:58] <Alpha> I think alsa is better
[01:58] <Seveas> kenkku, ESD preferably until ALSA is mature enough
[01:58] <TengkSA> Mabus06, its a tv card a proper tv tuner so i can watch tv through the aerial/satellite not a graphics card!!!!
[01:58] <Mabus06> ah
[01:58] <kenkku> so if I use ESD, where is the device to record? I'm using teamspeak and the default won't work
[01:59] <Mabus06> then you'll likely find more help where there are other people who use that sort of thing, TengkSA
[01:59] <metho> topyli: everything is working ok now, thanks very much for ur help!!!!
[01:59] <Mabus06> Or of course there's alays google.
[01:59] <Alpha> I hava a problem.The readme says DOOM3 cannot run under X700.
[01:59] <topyli> metho: later, if you want, you can open ports for bittorrent, gnutella or whatever you need
[01:59] <Mabus06> Awww... you serious, Alpha? :(
[01:59] <Alpha> Is there anything I could do about it?
[01:59] <Alpha> Yes.
[01:59] <Alpha> The readme says that.
[01:59] <Mabus06> I recently got the same card.
[01:59] <sanjay> Hi - does anyone know how I can convert .avi files to .mpeg ? is there a tool I can download in Synaptic?
[01:59] <oskude> TengkSA: xawtv, zapping, tvtime...
[02:00] <Mabus06> And I was going to reinstall doom3 today...
[02:00] <Alpha> It says fglrx have some problems.
[02:00] <Mabus06> sanjay, I hate to commit heresy here but for media manipulation I'd go with windows
[02:00] <metho> topyli: i may have to open ports cos i will install limewire this afternoon!!!! i am off now anyway so i will ask for ur help this afternoon if u r online, :)
[02:00] <Mabus06> metho, we might not be but somebody with answers likely will.. cya
[02:01] <topyli> metho: ok, i'm off to grab a beer as well :)
[02:01] <silverpower> On ppc Ubuntu, is mouse button emulation turned on, and what keys does it use?
[02:01] <sanjay> Mabus: ay ok thanks - i do dualboot, and heretically, i need to convert them to be able to edit them on premiere, so ahh well. damn. thanks.
[02:01] <oskude> btw, when i use my radeon9200pro with fglrx driver, i cant use hardware overlay with my tv card, normal ? (with radeon drivers it does work)
[02:01] <metho> topyli, Mabus06: cya later my Linux Gurus, lol
[02:01] <ubuntu_> hello everyone, can anyone tell me how i make X use my own xorg.conf in the ubuntu live cd environment (5.10), after i copy mine it doesnt seem to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if i logout to restart X
[02:01] <Mabus06> Linux guru? Not quite. heh
[02:02] <TengkSA> oskude shot
[02:02] <Mabus06> sanjay, if you find a good program to convert avi to mpeg on ubuntu, let me know ;-)
[02:03] <topyli> Mabus06: better just bite the bullet and start writing good mencoder command lines :)
[02:03] <thegladiator> my browsers tend to crash frequently
[02:03] <thegladiator> wondering i f anyone has the same experience
[02:03] <Mabus06> Yeah, but then I got Ubuntu.
[02:03] <Alpha> I have a winxp on my harddisk.but it is pirated copy.
[02:04] <thegladiator> i am on ubuntu
[02:04] <Mabus06> I know, just poking fun. What browser are you using.
[02:04] <thegladiator> and I really have this annoying problem
[02:04] <Seveas> thegladiator, nope. Are you using dapper perhaps?
[02:04] <thegladiator> nope breezy
[02:04] <Alpha> Most of my friends use pirated software.
[02:04] <thegladiator> wonder why it always happens with me
[02:04] <Mabus06> the default firefox, or 1.5?
[02:04] <thegladiator> these bugs that cant be detecetd nor removed
[02:05] <thegladiator> default
[02:05] <Mabus06> Alpha, I prefer open source, just because the places you get it from aren't spam freaks like piracy places.
[02:05] <thegladiator> i didnt try 1.5 since even this version is stable or so they so
[02:05] <Seveas> thegladiator, crappy plugins/extensions perhaps
[02:05] <kemik> thegladiator:  my browsers used to crash frequently.. my RAM was bad
[02:05] <samitheberber> When can firefox1.5 be downloaded by atp-get ?
[02:05] <Alpha> But openoffice is not good enough.
[02:05] <thegladiator> kemik, i have to chcek my RAM
[02:05] <thegladiator> it is new actuallly
[02:06] <fli7e> if i'm running a pentium 4 laptop, is it benificial to run the linux-686 kernel as opposed to the linux-386 one that i'm currently running?
[02:06] <thegladiator> by if RAM is bad shudnt the system fail as sucj ?
[02:06] <kemik> thegladiator:  mmh, better run memtest a few runs
[02:06] <Mabus06> samigaru, dapper
[02:06] <Myrtti> Alpha: it's good value for the money you pay for it
[02:06] <Mabus06> samitheberber, I mean ^^
[02:06] <thegladiator> Seveas, how can i go about installin plugins ?
[02:06] <thegladiator> kemik, how ?
[02:06] <thegladiator> memtest is the command ?
[02:06] <kemik> thegladiator:  no necessarily, it sometimes frooze my comp, sometimes just shutdown apps on random
[02:06] <Alpha> Myrtti:It is too expensive.
[02:06] <thegladiator> Seveas, these things happen out of the blue , not when i open some page or something
[02:06] <Myrtti> Alpha: openoffice?
[02:06] <Myrtti> lol
[02:07] <kemik> thegladiator:  it's an option in your grub-menu when you restart your computer
[02:07] <thegladiator> kemik, whats the command from terminal ? for memtest ?
[02:07] <thegladiator> yes
[02:07] <thegladiator> i'll do that
[02:07] <thegladiator> before that i guess i need to try out freshly installing firefox ?
[02:07] <Alpha> Almost every computer in my campus uses cracked Windows XP
[02:07] <kemik> thegladiator:  it cant be run from command, you have to restart and run it "exclusively" (since nothing can be loaded in rAM whilst testing)
[02:07] <samitheberber> Mabus06: Only for Dapper, that you mean?
[02:07] <thegladiator> Seveas, how do I go about removing FF and then
[02:08] <thegladiator> reinstalling it from CD
[02:08] <thegladiator> sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox ?
[02:08] <Alpha> This is my first time to use IRC chat.It seems not very wonderful.
[02:08] <thegladiator> Alpha, whats the problem ?
[02:08] <Mabus06> samitheberber, it will be in breezy only after it's in dapper, the topic to this channel said a while ago
[02:09] <Hendikins> Alpha: IRC seems to be either friendly or scary, there's rarely any in between. This channel is the former, #debian is the latter (for example)
[02:09] <Alpha> So many people chat in the only window.
[02:09] <samitheberber> Mabus06: Ok. When Dapper goes out?
[02:09] <samitheberber> Mabus06: April 2006?
[02:09] <kemik> Alpha:  you can have more channels open and any number of private chats
[02:10] <Alpha> I see.
[02:10] <allison_1984> Hendikins/ I agree ;)
[02:10] <thegladiator> i am doing a reinstallation , just in case
[02:10] <kemik> Alpha:  and this channel is probably one of the largest channels on the net :)
[02:10] <_matt> HI Alpha, if you use kubuntu, the kubuntu channel is quieter
[02:10] <Alpha> I am using Ubuntu.
[02:10] <kemik> Alpha:  but if you need help, just ask
[02:10] <Hendikins> Gentoo is substantially bigger than this channel
[02:10] <Alpha> I have a problem about VNC.
[02:11] <thegladiator> this is the best help channel for any LINUX i have ever used
[02:11] <thegladiator> Gentoo is the only bigger one
[02:11] <Hendikins> #debian was similarly sized
[02:11] <thegladiator> but I have nothin towards Gentoo as of now
[02:11] <kemik> #debian... a very friendly channel
[02:11] <Alpha> Only One user could log on the VNC server.
[02:11] <kemik> if they ever reply its often "RTFM NOOB" ;)
[02:11] <thegladiator> i didnt use debian as such . used knoppix
[02:12] <TengkSA> PLEASE will someone help with booting windows back
[02:12] <kemik> Alpha:  yeah, i dont think VNC supports multiple sessions
[02:12] <Hendikins> kemik: I think satan will be ordering anti-freeze before #debian is friendly. #debian and #ubuntu seem to be polar opposites.
[02:12] <thegladiator> TengkSA, whats the problem ? just ask...
[02:12] <Alpha> I install vnc4serverbut it doesn't work.
[02:12] <kemik> Alpha:  you're probably wanting SSH or perhaps FreeNX(not sure about that)
[02:12] <yogii> when using dpkg -- If i have given the command dpkg -r --pending, should it remove all packages marked for removal? and if yes, when i do a dpkg -l|grep packagename  should it still show up with the "r" for removal flag?
[02:12] <TengkSA> thegladiator, i installed ubuntu yesterday and windows has been on my comp for a while... how do i boot back in to windows?
[02:12] <kemik> Hendikins:  mh they are.. i had some Q's a few years ago ... lets just say #debian wasnt of much help ....
[02:13] <thegladiator> TengkSA, you messed up during installation I think
[02:13] <kemik> TengkSA:  you'll have to restore GRUB or your MBR
[02:13] <thegladiator> you must edit grub.con
[02:13] <yogii> anyone familiar with dpkg at all?
[02:13] <Alpha> Then I try to log in through ssh ,I fail in running 'startx
[02:13] <Hendikins> kemik: My main annoyance is that they patch firefox up the wazoo then send all questions to upstream. Problem is, I basically run upstream as far as IRC is concerned.
[02:13] <TengkSA> now how do i do these things please will you guide me through
[02:13] <kemik> TengkSA:  think you can boot with the windows cd and typ fixmbw (but that will wreck grub)
[02:13] <TengkSA> i dont have a windows cd with me
[02:14] <fli7e> anyone who knows: if i'm running a pentium 4 laptop, is it benificial to run the linux-686 kernel instead of the linux-386 one that i'm currently running?
[02:14] <kemik> fli7e:  it should, in theory, be better ;)
[02:14] <irvin> fli7e, definitely
[02:14] <Alpha> Do most of you come from the western countries?
[02:14] <TengkSA> thegladiator, kemik, what do u people recommend i do
[02:14] <irvin> Alpha, not me
[02:15] <Alpha> I am in china.
[02:15] <kemik> TengkSA:  well, im not sure what the exact problem is.. but either edit your grub.conf or recover grub entirely, or last run fixmbr
[02:15] <thegladiator> reinstalling ubuntu wud be a nice idea also if you have the time
[02:15] <fli7e> kemik, so i basically what, remove linux-386 in synaptics and mark linux-686 for install and reboot?
[02:15] <thegladiator> while reinstallation ubuntu detects ur windows OS
[02:15] <Hendikins> Reinstalling the OS? What is this, Windows?
[02:15] <TengkSA> thegladiator, does that mean i need to reset all that shit like allow mp3s and stuff
[02:16] <thegladiator> TengkSA, the thing is if you dont know to play with grub i.e
[02:16] <kemik> fli7e:  dont have to remove actually, it should be just another option in grub
[02:16] <fli7e> oh, right
[02:16] <kemik> fli7e:  so just install, it's safest ;)
[02:16] <thegladiator> reinstall is just the easy way to set it back...after that I guess you will have to do those things again
[02:16] <fli7e> cool, thanks
[02:16] <TengkSA> so do i pop my ubuntu cd in
[02:16] <thegladiator> someone knows how to edit the grub to get windows back ?
[02:17] <thegladiator> i amnot sure
[02:17] <thegladiator> install cd and do a installation process again...what do you guys think ?
[02:17] <TengkSA> ive followed so many step by step things on the internet and none work
[02:17] <thegladiator> about this advice ?
[02:17] <kemik> Hendikins:  maybe you can help TengkSA ... he cant boot windows (apparently there's no such option in the grub.menu... so grub must have failed to install properly)
[02:17] <thegladiator> yeah
[02:17] <thegladiator> Hendikins, if you could help him
[02:18] <TengkSA> apparently its not a good idea if windows is installed on a 2nd partition
[02:18] <kemik> thegladiator:  i dont think a re-installation should be neccessary
[02:18] <thegladiator> my method is laborious
[02:18] <Hendikins> kemik: I don't use Ubuntu. I'm here to handle Firefox questions for downstream, in the main.
[02:18] <thegladiator> neither me
[02:18] <thegladiator> but if you dont know the grub related stuff thats called for...
[02:18] <kemik> Hendikins:  i c :) didnt think they had new FF in ubuntu repos
[02:19] <Hendikins> kemik: Who said anything about 1.5?
[02:19] <Mabus06> kemik, quite sure they dont
[02:19] <TengkSA> so what do i do boys
[02:19] <silverpower> How do I enable mouse button emulation under Ubuntu? I need it to get my Powerbook fully working.
[02:19] <sanjay> TengkSA: I do a dualboot with windows -- i can give u my grub.conf and menu.lst settings, but im not so familiar with GRUB either, so dont know if thats the best idea ..
[02:19] <thegladiator> TengkSA, do a google for edit+grub+windows...something like that
[02:19] <Hendikins> kemik: I'm simply helping downstream because upstream isn't doing their level best to piss me off :)
[02:19] <TengkSA> ive done so many of those
[02:19] <TengkSA> i have no idea what im doing on this prog
[02:19] <kemik> Hendikins:  aight :)
[02:19] <thegladiator> sanjayji it will also depend on his drive (windows)
[02:19] <Hendikins> er, downstream isn't trying to piss me off
[02:19] <TengkSA> sanjay can u give it to me
[02:19] <TengkSA> i know which drive each thing is on dont worry
[02:20] <kemik> TengkSA:  paste your grub.conf on pastebin perhaps
[02:20] <thegladiator> alright
[02:20] <TengkSA> how do u access grub.conf
[02:20] <thegladiator> /etc/grub.conf
[02:20] <TengkSA> no such file/directory
[02:21] <Seveas> thegladiator, that's a redhatism
[02:21] <Seveas> Ubuntu uses the proper /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:21] <ldy> TengkSA, /boot/grub/menu.conf
[02:21] <thegladiator> oh sorry :)
[02:21] <TengkSA> oh ive changed that file so many times i dont know what im doing
[02:21] <thegladiator> old fc4 !
[02:21] <Seveas> fcrap4 :)
[02:21] <Nei> the make-kpkg --initrd screws if I use a local_version setting in my kernel, someone knows how to fix that?
[02:22] <kemik> Seveas:  now now, let's all be friends
[02:22] <TengkSA> Seveas, do u think sanjay's idea is a good one
[02:22] <kemik> :>
[02:22] <Hendikins> SuSE is also using /etc/grub.conf, fwiw :P
[02:22] <thegladiator> paste your grub first
[02:22] <Seveas> TengkSA, didn't see the idea :)
[02:22] <thegladiator> most of the distro perfer /etc i guess . well not sure :)
[02:22] <Nei> (details: the initrd contains a /lib/modules/maj.min directory, but it tries to load modules from /lib/modules/maj.min-local_version
[02:22] <kemik> Seveas:  basically that sanjay would give TengkSA *his* grub.conf
[02:22] <Seveas> eww
[02:22] <thegladiator> TengkSA, i dont think thats a good idea
[02:23] <thegladiator> but...
[02:23] <ldy> I see some distros has symbol link in /etc/groub.conf to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:23] <Seveas> that sounds like a terrible idea
[02:23] <TengkSA> thegladiator, why not
[02:23] <thegladiator> paste ur thing first
[02:23] <TengkSA> my thing is already on pastebin Seveas tried to help last nite
[02:23] <sanjay> yea - i can give u the lines to reference my windows -- if u have it installed on your first partition .. but better someone who knows their grub to do this ..
[02:23] <thegladiator> TengkSA, there are some issues there...paste your
[02:23] <thegladiator> TengkSA, just play aroun and see if you have the live cd also
[02:24] <TengkSA> live cd?
[02:24] <TengkSA> sanjay, its on my 2nd partition
[02:24] <silverpower> TengkSA: paste the output of 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' to a pastebin, as well.
[02:24] <ANE_BT> abe lugeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:24] <ANE_BT> so e ova rabotaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:24] <ANE_BT> nisto ne razbiram
[02:24] <Alpha> 
[02:24] <fli7e> anyone: what is the current full version number of the latest stable ubuntu kernel? is it 2.6.12, or 2.6.12.10, or what?
[02:24] <sanjay> TengkSA: ooohh.. then I wouldn't do anything . (having windows on second partition can be problematic, in my experience)
[02:25] <TengkSA> sanjay, what do i do? uninstall ubuntu entirely and install it on my 2nd hard drive?
[02:25] <Seveas> fli7e, 2.6.12-10
[02:25] <fli7e> Seveas, thanks. :)
[02:25] <TengkSA> sanjay,  im worried if windows will work after uninstalling ubuntu
[02:25] <Alpha> I think so.
[02:25] <thegladiator> TengkSA, try these thing if nothing works you always have the reinstallation option in which ubuntu auto detcts ur Windoz and do the apropriate action required
[02:25] <xiaogil> is there an email notifier with evolution ?
[02:26] <xiaogil> Alpha: 
[02:26] <Seveas> xiaogil, no
[02:26] <Alpha> 
[02:26] <thegladiator> whats this chiness channel ?
[02:26] <TengkSA> thegladiator, sanjay Seveas  what do i do
[02:26] <Seveas> Alpha, sticj to english in here
[02:26] <Seveas> thegladiator, #ubuntu-zh
[02:26] <sanjay> TengkSA: yes, and if all fails then, i think thegladiator had mentioned the fix mbr comdmand for Windows that u can probably do to recover your Windows boot ..
[02:26] <Alpha> ok
[02:26] <TengkSA> silverpower, can i paste my output of fdisk in a prvt window
[02:27] <silverpower> TengkSA: sure.
[02:27] <thegladiator> not fix mbr he doesnt have the win cd
[02:27] <TengkSA> i have a windows boot floppy disk
[02:27] <TengkSA> but it doesnt even work now
[02:28] <kemik> im sure you can download the fixmbr thing from the 'net
[02:28] <TengkSA> i think that theres huge conflict about windows being on 2nd partition
[02:28] <thegladiator> reinstalling ubuntu from sratch , over the present one
[02:28] <sanjay> oh shux. yea - owch.. aiy.. i have to run.. best of luck folks..
[02:28] <thegladiator> TengkSA, didnt you see this question during ub installation ? which says there is a win OS
[02:28] <TengkSA> no i cant install ubuntu on to my first partition ill install it on my 2nd partition or cant it be on the same on as windows/
[02:28] <thegladiator> do you want to keep it and stuff
[02:28] <Mabus06> no, TengkSA
[02:28] <TengkSA> thegladiator, it never came up
[02:28] <Alpha> TenkSA:Find a linux expect around you and everything is ok.
[02:29] <TengkSA> Alpha, sorry?
[02:29] <thegladiator> TengkSA, thats weird , ubuntu detects the OS existsing
[02:29] <deltron> expert I think alpha meant
[02:29] <xiaogil> Alpha: /join #ubuntu-zh OR /join #ubuntu-tw OR /join #dot
[02:29] <Alpha> i see.
[02:30] <thegladiator> dont you think Ubuntu detetcs windows ? in my case it did
[02:30] <thegladiator> like for a dual boot
[02:30] <TengkSA> no it was confused
[02:30] <thegladiator> i see. weird
[02:31] <thegladiator> i think there shud be a grub generator program in ubuntu
[02:31] <ldy> Hi,all, I see such output in netstat -natu (udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:32793           0.0.0.0:*
[02:31] <ldy> udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:68              0.0.0.0:*
[02:31] <ldy>  )
[02:31] <ldy> what's are these ports for?
[02:31] <thegladiator> something that checks the OS and generates the suitable grub
[02:32] <thegladiator> perhaps i might take up the project :)
[02:32] <TengkSA> is there a way of uninstalling a previous ubuntu version
[02:32] <thegladiator> do you mean you have two ubuntu's in yoru syste, ?
[02:33] <Mabus06> TengkSA, format the partition with it on it.
[02:33] <thegladiator> http://ubuntuguide.org/ --> 5.04 guide , not breezy , but it has something you need
[02:33] <TengkSA> i am useless how do i do that
[02:33] <thegladiator> TengkSA, ^
[02:34] <thegladiator> hey ubuntu experts arond , is there a possibility of ubuntu not detecting another OS during installation ?
[02:34] <Mabus06> anything is possible, but I'm no expert ;-)
[02:34] <silverpower> TengkSA: did you paste the entire thing?
[02:34] <[A] ndy80> hi
[02:34] <[A] ndy80> I built the .deb package for ubuntu of aMule 2.1.0.... who can i send it to? other users could be interested in it
[02:34] <TengkSA> silverpower, yeah
[02:35] <Venson> thegladiator , if it's another linux install, yes...it won't pick up. afaik, there's no linux installer that will
[02:35] <thegladiator> i see
[02:35] <silverpower> TengkSA: It's useless - there's no kernel entry, so I can't write you a new one.
[02:36] <silverpower> All the boot stanzas are simply gone.
[02:36] <thegladiator> TengkSA, there is another suggestion Iw ud like to give you
[02:36] <thegladiator> which is not about "correcting "
[02:36] <TengkSA> if i reinstall ubontu
[02:36] <TengkSA> will it work
[02:37] <thegladiator> IMHO it shud detect the OS present but I can guarantee that :(
[02:37] <thegladiator> TengkSA, why dont you try backing up ur  data ?
[02:37] <TengkSA> thegladiator, my 2nd hard drive has everything i need
[02:37] <neville> realplayer-setup tells me to update "your system's library paths
[02:38] <TengkSA> thegladiator, i just dont feel like reinstalling all the progs/drivers etc
[02:38] <silverpower> TengkSA: Fixing this is relatively easy, but I'm going to need to know things like your exact kernel and initrd name, plus all the options.
[02:38] <thegladiator> ah
[02:38] <neville> how??
[02:38] <thegladiator> silverpower, shud help you I guess . i amnot much aware about this...
[02:38] <thegladiator> just follow him
[02:38] <moodog> Hi
[02:38] <thegladiator> HI moodog
[02:39] <TengkSA> how old are all of you people on average
[02:39] <thegladiator> i am 21
[02:39] <thegladiator> and you ?
[02:39] <_matt> 25 years old!
[02:39] <Mabus06> I'm 18, on average. ;-)
[02:39] <TengkSA> 16
[02:39] <neville> how can i update my system's library paths?
[02:39] <thegladiator> cool , so the average age is 21
[02:39] <thegladiator> nice :)
[02:40] <TengkSA> i have so much guts to just try out these things without learning about it and i ALWAYS manage to fuck up
[02:40] <dutch> 62
[02:40] <morphix> ages?
[02:40] <morphix> 17.
[02:40] <thegladiator> TengkSA, you are not alone
[02:41] <TengkSA> haha
[02:41] <thegladiator> i have botched up few many things actually
[02:41] <IdleOne> TengkSA: if you dont break it you cant fix it lol
[02:42] <thegladiator> thats called hacking
[02:42] <blaamann> neville: Could you specify ?
[02:44] <zoyd> hi, is there any tool to edit .avis?
[02:45] <berkes> hey there. good afternoon!
[02:46] <tini> hi there
[02:46] <Hendikins> Good morning.
[02:46] <berkes> i am trying to get some stuff on and off a windows PC in our LAN.
[02:46] <berkes> atm the only environment that is configured is the windows local network.
[02:46] <oskude> zoyd: could be your looking for "avidemux" ...
[02:47] <berkes> does anyone know what protocol is used for that?
[02:47] <fli7e> berkes, WINS is one of the protocols for Windows workgroups
[02:47] <Hendikins> berkes: You'd use samba.
[02:47] <berkes> i thought so, thanks.
[02:47] <mrpink> chroot magik/quit
[02:49] <neron> hello
[02:49] <neron> its me again
[02:49] <neron> i got another problem now
[02:49] <zoyd> oskude: k, i'll try that
[02:50] <neron> how do you crate a home network without a router i have 2 computers connected to a switch using DSL modem with pppoe connection on both
[02:51] <fli7e> neron, do you have two network cards?
[02:51] <fli7e> in one of the pcs?
[02:51] <neron> no
[02:51] <neron> i dont need to share my internet connection
[02:51] <UniqueName> Can someone help me out i had problems with my soundcard stoping my boot process, but now i am in ubuntu. Its all setup. BUT I have no sound... I have a lw40 express laptop and it has a realtek audio thing. Anyway it comes up in the tray at the top of the screen as if its there i can adjust the volume sliders but volume does not work. I have read that i might need to install custom drivers i tried doing that but it needs kernel heade
[02:51] <UniqueName> rs or something to compile and i am using a old kernel that was patched for this issue so i cant be bothered. Can someone tell me if other distros have this problem with realtek or how to fix my audio AND when the next ubuntu release is due as the next realase should fix this problem
[02:51] <neron> i just want to share files trought the cables
[02:51] <vilko> hi al i need some help again
[02:52] <fli7e> neron, a crossover cable would be the easiest way
[02:52] <neron> i dont have that
[02:52] <vilko> is there thing that i can chat over webcam with windows users ?
[02:52] <neron> i got the switch
[02:52] <fli7e> well, a switch should be just as good as a router
[02:52] <blaamann> viko: Try GnomeMeeting
[02:52] <vilko> ok...
[02:53] <vilko> im in that atm
[02:53] <vilko> but i dont see any options for webcam ?
[02:53] <neron> well so what do i need to connect 2 comps together than
[02:53] <blaamann> vilko: Click on the camera icon
[02:53] <neron> vilko try dowloading amsn
[02:54] <blaamann> vilko: Is you camera configured ?
[02:54] <oskude> neron: a cable, protocol and a service ;)
[02:54] <vilko> wait its not gaim meeting internet messaging
[02:54] <vilko> ?
[02:54] <blaamann> vilko: What ?
[02:54] <fli7e> neron, as long as both computers are somehow connected to the switch, they should already be physically able to talk to eachother
[02:54] <UniqueName> Why does gnome only let me choose 1024x768 when my xorg file says 1280x768
[02:54] <neron> oskude: im practicaly a new user so please some more info :(
[02:55] <vilko> gaim internet messenger is that GnomeMeeting?
[02:55] <blaamann> vilko: No, run gnomemeeting
[02:55] <vilko> do i have that installed even ?
[02:55] <oskude> neron: and i dont know with what you wanna communicate and what you want to transport (i use http, ftp, or ssh)
[02:55] <matt_> hello i have a ?
[02:55] <matt_> can someone help me
[02:56] <deltron> k
[02:56] <vilko> ooo found it lol
[02:56] <neron> i just want to share some files
[02:56] <matt_> how do i open a port for my firewall
[02:56] <oskude> neron: for that i would use http or ftp
[02:56] <UniqueName> can someone tell me why xorg says i can only use 1280x768 but gnome choosed 1024x768 and does not let me manualy change it
[02:56] <neron> so i just need to setup the ftp server
[02:56] <neron> and a ftp client
[02:57] <oskude> neron: yup
[02:57] <neron> damn gotta try that
[02:57] <neron> thanx
[02:57] <matt_> can someone help me?
[02:57] <fli7e> UniqueName, I might be wrong, but i think xorg does not have default options for widescreen resolutions
[02:57] <neron> any sujestions on the best or easiest program to use?!?
[02:57] <vilko> damn how do i config my camera
[02:57] <oskude> neron: but on my experience http was easier to setup than ftp (but on http you dont have upload, well not standardly)
[02:57] <fli7e> UniqueName, that would be WHY. if you want to know HOW to add them manually, you'll need someone elses help
[02:57] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[02:58] <neron> hum
[02:58] <UniqueName> fli7e, i selected widescreen in the installer and opened xorg to double check. i know how to do it but its not letting me use what i have done to the xorg file
[02:58] <UniqueName> the problem is with gnome not xorg :S
[02:58] <neron> oskude: id like to try the http what programs did u use?!?
[02:59] <UniqueName> fli7e, SubSection "Display"
[02:59] <UniqueName> 		Depth		24
[02:59] <UniqueName> 		Modes		"1280x768"
[02:59] <UniqueName> 	EndSubSection
[02:59] <oskude> neron: "sudo apt-get install apache2" (and select "standalone" when asked)
[02:59] <neron> apache thought so
[02:59] <matt_> ?? can someone help?
[03:00] <fli7e> UniqueName, i don't have a widescreen, so ive obviously never experienced the problem firsthand. someone else in this channel had a similar problem within the last few days and i think someone mentioned manually editing the x configuration files or something like that. thats really all i know about it
[03:00] <oskude> neron: then you can make a dir named "public_html" in your home dir, and others will find it with browser "http://ip.ip.ip.ip/~yourusername"
[03:00] <blaamann> vilko: See if this driver/module support your camera
[03:00] <blaamann> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spca5xx
[03:00] <fli7e> matt_, what are you using as a firewall?
[03:01] <sarek> hi
[03:01] <ligi> anyone knows what to apt-get to be able to install wmv3 files with mplayer?
[03:01] <vilko> how do i check that ?
[03:01] <UniqueName> fli7e, yeah i thought i would get a quick fix, i guess its back to google. By the way if the audio slider comes up and opens does that mean drivers are WORKING and valid becuase my audio drivers dont work (not supported by the latest kernel) i got a kernel patch and i can see the volume slider now but it does not work.
[03:01] <neron> now theres a problem
[03:01] <blaamann> vilko: Go to the site and read
[03:01] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[03:02] <Olson> hey
[03:02] <vilko> ok
[03:02] <bigfoot_yeti> hi all
[03:02] <Olson> i installed ubuntu here but the mouse didnt work
[03:02] <spy> hi
[03:02] <Olson> could anybody help me?
[03:02] <fli7e> UniqueName, i havent a clue about the volume problem
[03:02] <samitheberber> How I get skype working in UBUNTU5.10 ?
[03:02] <spy> can sum1 help me mount ntfs drive... disk manager doesnt want 2 enable when i set it up
[03:03] <neron> oskude: the file does not work :S
[03:03] <UniqueName> fli7e, well do you know how to hide the audio patch thing? beucase since i patched the kernel the thing asking me to patch ubuntu wont go away
[03:03] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[03:03] <matt_> whats the command?
[03:03] <oskude> neron: what file doesnt work ?
[03:03] <neron> i mean
[03:04] <neron> Not Found
[03:04] <neron> The requested URL /neron was not found on this server.
[03:04] <neron> Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 8
[03:04] <bigfoot_yeti> oh, j , so many questions
[03:04] <Olson> Could anybody help me ? I installed ubuntu here but the mouse didnt work.
[03:04] <neron> what did i do wrong now?!?
[03:04] <oskude> neron: dont forget that "~" like "localhost/~neron"
[03:04] <neron> oh damn sorry
[03:04] <neron> sorry
[03:05] <neron> tnx
[03:05] <Olson> does serial mouse work in ubuntu ?
[03:05] <matt_> hrmm
[03:05] <oskude> neron: np, that happens to all of us :)
[03:05] <matt_> can anyone help me?
[03:05] <matt_> or no?
[03:05] <neron> it works it works it works
[03:05] <matt_> or where can i get help
[03:05] <neron> yey
[03:05] <fli7e> UniqueName, if you're talking about the speaker icon on the top panel, right click on it and select remove from panel
[03:05] <oskude> neron: nice
[03:05] <UniqueName> fli7e, no i am tlaking about the red circle with a line thru it
[03:05] <neron> so is there a way to get into any other directories?!?
[03:05] <Olson> fli7e help me , please
[03:06] <sarek> ligi: maybe you could try installing the w32codecs package - but it's not in the official repositry any longer afaik
[03:06] <oskude> neron: for that you should read about configuring apache...
[03:06] <fli7e> Olson, a serial mouse should work in ubuntu, but the bad news is im not sure how to configure it without a working mouse.
[03:06] <ligi> sa
[03:06] <bigfoot_yeti> any idea how to run firestarter under kde ?
[03:07] <ligi> sarek, thanx
[03:07] <sarek> np
[03:07] <morphix> can ubuntu be installed on a usb removable hdd>
[03:07] <morphix> ?
[03:07] <dylan_> is there any way that you can change the amount of ink that comes out of your printer?
[03:07] <dylan_> how about print speed?
[03:07] <Olson> fli7e thats great
[03:07] <neron> oskude i know u helped me alot but do you happen to have any sujestions where to find those tutorials?!?
[03:07] <oskude> neron: im not sure if it works if you just do links in "public_html" for files that are outside "public_html"
[03:07] <morphix> aliases.
[03:07] <neron> its worth to try
[03:08] <neron> how do you do a link?!? :S
[03:08] <fli7e> Olson, you can try just plugging one in or something, but your best bet would be to get a usb mouse. they usually autodetect
[03:08] <sarek> I use the current nvidia-kernel-* drivers for xorg which seems to work fine. But when I test glxgears, the gears turn real slow and no output (about the fps rate) is given on the console. is that normal? When I checked this with my old card console output was given each 2 or 3 seconds
[03:08] <neron> i found out
[03:08] <neron> thanx anyways
[03:08] <fli7e> UniqueName, i am unsure what red circle with a line you are talking about. i don't think i've seen one before
[03:09] <oskude> neron: as morphix hinted, you could google about apache and aliases (you just do some lines in apaches config file, and you can like "map" any folder to any http address)
[03:09] <UniqueName> fli7e,  yes you have its the thing that asks you to update ubuntu
[03:09] <matt_> hello?
[03:09] <morphix> i have an ebook on apache if u want it neron
[03:09] <matt_> can someone help me really quickly?
[03:09] <morphix> i sell it on ebay :P
[03:09] <fli7e> oh right
[03:09] <matt_> i gotta ?
[03:09] <samitheberber> matt_: What is your problem?
[03:09] <neron> morphix sure
[03:10] <matt_> i am trying to d/l something and it told me i need to  open port 6881 on my firewall how do i do this?
[03:10] <fli7e> you want to get rid of that?
[03:10] <oskude> ebooks sucks, tutorials rule :)
[03:10] <morphix> meh this book cost me $30 when i bought the hard copy
[03:10] <neron> heh
[03:10] <fli7e> UniqueName, to get rid of THAT permanently you right click on the dotted/dashed vertical line that looks like a seperator bar and select remove from panel
[03:11] <oskude> i NEVER buy computer related books (there are like 1001 more uptodate info in the net)
[03:11] <matt_> samitheberer
[03:11] <bigfoot_yeti> any idea how to run firestarter under kde ?
[03:11] <neron> huh :S now that is something strange morphix
[03:12] <samitheberber> matt_: Maybe you can use iptables
[03:12] <bigfoot_yeti> anternatives are good too
[03:12] <bigfoot_yeti> but i need a GUI
[03:13] <bigfoot_yeti> kerio-like gui
[03:13] <sarek> I have some problems getting my tv tuner card tu work. I know the card number and tuner number to pass to the bttv module. When I start a tv application I get sound, can switch channels, but the screen is distorted. I can see the tv image, but there are lots of artefacts in it. Any idea?
[03:13] <matt_> samitheberber: how can i open up the port so i can run like azureus
[03:13] <bigfoot_yeti> no ideas then
[03:13] <bigfoot_yeti> peace
[03:15] <vilko> alrighty o
[03:15] <neron> anyways did any1 yet tried to play aao on ubuntu?!?
[03:15] <vilko> how can i burn cds ?
[03:15] <vilko> is ther ea burning proggie ?
[03:15] <neron> jes it is
[03:15] <Whistler> vilko try gnome-baker
[03:15] <neron> :D
[03:15] <Whistler> it should be installed by default
[03:16] <vilko> aha
[03:16] <neron> whistler it wasnt installed by default at my comp
[03:16] <neron> and i installed 2 ubuntus 1 on each comp
[03:16] <Whistler> as far as i remember it should be installed by default on 5.10
[03:16] <Whistler> may be that im wrong
[03:17] <vilko> looks like it aint
[03:17] <Whistler> vilko then try: sudo apt-get install gnome-baker
[03:17] <Whistler> or just use synaptic
[03:17] <janoli> gnomebaker
[03:17] <Whistler> for that
[03:17] <Whistler> oh
[03:17] <Whistler> without - just gnomebaker
[03:18] <vilko> ser paketlistor... Frdig
[03:18] <vilko> Bygger beroendetrd... Frdig
[03:18] <vilko> E: Kunde inte hitta paketet gnome-baker
[03:18] <Chousuke> gnomebaker
[03:18] <Chousuke> :p
[03:18] <vilko> ow ok
[03:19] <Chousuke> Also You could've just said it doesn't find the package "gnome-baker"
[03:19] <vilko> woohoo
[03:19] <vilko> seems like it install
[03:19] <Chousuke> that had 2 unnecessary lines. :)
[03:20] <vilko> thanks guys u rox
[03:20] <vilko> :D
[03:20] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello guys
[03:20] <vilko> w000h0000 another happy puppy goes Unbuntu
[03:21] <dec0ding> what is the name of X11's Development headers package for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <allison_1984> anyone please give me the source lists for apt-get update ?
[03:21] <Ng> dec0ding: libx11-dev I think
[03:21] <Inf3ctedFx> allison_1984:  hold on
[03:22] <Ng> !sources
[03:22] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:23] <Inf3ctedFx> allison_1984:  here u have --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6537
[03:24] <allison_1984> ubotu, Inf3ctedFx: thanks
[03:24] <ubotu> allison_1984: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:24] <Inf3ctedFx> n/p
[03:25] <oskude> someone should program ubotu to say "your welcome" when someone says "thanx" or similar :)
[03:25] <allison_1984> ubotu: well, I messed up with the old sources update with that of automatix, also can't seem to link with Seveas's update site
[03:25] <ubotu> allison_1984: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:25] <oskude> allison_1984: ubotu is a bot
[03:26] <allison_1984> oskude: I know
[03:26] <Ng> it's also a particularly stupid bot ;)
[03:26] <Ng> * > bloot
[03:26] <allison_1984> I addressed the mesage to him by mistake
[03:26] <fischi> can someone tell me in whick package HEAD is included?
[03:26] <oskude> allison_1984: ah ok
[03:27] <oskude> fischi: SCNR, apt-get install BODY ;)
[03:27] <allison_1984> so again another question ....do I have to change the source list everytime I want to install something new ?
[03:27] <Mabus06> lol @ allison_1984
[03:27] <Mabus06> that never gets old.. people talking with the bot
[03:27] <oskude> allison_1984: no, just once
[03:27] <allison_1984> is sooo emabrassed.....
[03:28] <Mabus06> You are far from the first, allison_1984 ;-)
[03:28] <fischi> not Brain oskude ?;)
[03:28] <oskude> allison_1984: dont be, nothing "bad" happened
[03:28] <Mabus06> It's funnier when people get in arguments with it.
[03:28] <allison_1984> rotfl
[03:29] <allison_1984> oskude: normally are there 21 source sites then ?
[03:30] <oskude> allison_1984: "officially" theres only 3
[03:30] <allison_1984> oskude: or it differs when I open the restricted format's multiverse/universe ?
[03:30] <allison_1984> oskude: ok
[03:31] <apokryphos> oskude: not really, there's much more.
[03:31] <oskude> allison_1984: i got only main,universe, multiverse (and their updates)
[03:31] <allison_1984> oskude: are those only for the breezy updates ?
[03:31] <allison_1984> oskude: or you have for security too ?
[03:31] <heatxsink> I have a huge problem
[03:31] <heatxsink> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.9.0.dfsg.1-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[03:32] <heatxsink>  trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ar', which is also in package xlibs
[03:32] <heatxsink> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[03:32] <heatxsink> I don't know what to do help!!!
[03:32] <trappist> heatxsink: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.9.0.dfsg.1-1_all.deb
[03:32] <oskude> allison_1984: sry, ment "security" for main, universe, and multiverse (as update)
[03:33] <oskude> allison_1984: but i remember they mentioned the differeces of the repos in source-o-matic, or what it was...
[03:33] <rod> hello there
[03:34] <rod> i have a Geforce1 card here, and although I am able to install nvidia drivers on all my machines here with ubuntu, this machine fails
[03:34] <rod> i do apt-get  install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx-legacy
[03:34] <rod> and then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:35] <allison_1984> oskude: I am trying to install kstars and I can't update from some of the sources.......have to re do the lists again.....
[03:35] <rod> but xorg.conf doesnt get modified (nv to nvidia)
[03:35] <rod> and modprobe nvidia says no such device
[03:35] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package
[03:35] <madgik85> Hello, does any one know how to find what version of gtk i have installed? I have Ubuntu 5.10
[03:35] <DMJC> what's the MINIMUM hdd for installed ubuntu?
[03:35] <DMJC> with X?
[03:35] <oskude> allison_1984: when ever you modify the sources.list, you HAVE to do "sudo apt-get update" (so you get the list of installable programs in those repos)
[03:36] <poningru> DMJC: I dont remember the exact space but its around a gig
[03:37] <poningru> with a small swap
[03:37] <oskude> DMJC: i remember standard ubuntu beieng like 1.5g
[03:37] <rod> rod@ubuntu:~$ FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[03:37] <poningru> its around 1.5 gig
[03:37] <poningru> what he said
[03:37] <Whistler> and some more for swap
[03:37] <allison_1984> oskude: hmmmm........some of my updates fail
[03:37] <DMJC> what aout server?
[03:37] <Whistler> 300 mb
[03:37] <Whistler> without x
[03:37] <poningru> server would be smaller
[03:37] <poningru> a lot smaller
[03:37] <DMJC> how big would X be?
[03:37] <oskude> allison_1984: post in pastebin and say the link
[03:37] <DMJC> all I want is X, metacity, and amusic player
[03:38] <Whistler> DMJC maybe try xubuntu instead?
[03:38] <allison_1984> oskude: right
[03:38] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic
[03:38] <rod> Yeha xubuntu is prolly whatyou want DMJC
[03:38] <DMJC> just wondering, I have an ubuntu install cd and I want to cram it into a 500mb vmware image is all
[03:38] <oskude> DMJC: xubuntu is a meta package that should install x and xfce4
[03:38] <CioN> DMJC installa xubuntu-desktop
[03:39] <DMJC> I don't want a desktop, just want to access my music in windows
[03:39] <DMJC> it's stuck on a reiserfs partition
[03:39] <CioN> use lice cd then
[03:39] <Whistler> DMJC firstly install ubuntu server then just install xubuntu-desktop package
[03:39] <DMJC> and I still dualboot with linux
[03:39] <CioN> live cd
[03:39] <Whistler> oh
[03:39] <DMJC> oik
[03:39] <rod> yeah live cd!!
[03:39] <nemik> hello, is there any way for me to run my shell/bash script as soon as a certain USB device is plugged in?
[03:40] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic
[03:40] <deFrysk>  /j #ubuntu-nl
[03:40] <rod> anyone familiar with sudo modprobe nvidia
[03:40] <rod> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[03:40] <rod> 'join #ubuntu-nl
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> nemik,  i think the 'removeable' drive controlpanel part of gnome has a entry/setting  for such a task
[03:40] <silverpower> Can I get Ubuntu to remove Gnome and replace it with KDE completely? I've tried it out and I really don't care for Gnome.
[03:41] <pepsi> hi there
[03:41] <Whistler> silverpower i think you can
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> silverpower,  leave gnome on.. install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[03:41] <apokryphos> silverpower: yes. Install kubuntu-desktop and then use debfoster.
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> mix and match :P
[03:41] <pepsi> i lost my mouse input somehow
[03:41] <nemik> Dr_Willis: thanks. i may just want to know how to do it from a terminal for extra-compatible knowledge, but the gnome menu is a good place to start. any hints on where this could be? i haven't seen it before
[03:41] <CioN> silverpower don't mess too much with gnome
[03:42] <apokryphos> oO
[03:42] <pepsi> i need it back so i can save data in vmware :(  they keyboard seems to work a little bit, but not really
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> nemik,  from the console/term - thers some sort of udev/auto mount stuff.. but never messed with it befor.
[03:42] <poningru> silverpower: you could have installed kubuntu instead from the begining
[03:42] <poningru> !kubuntu
[03:42] <ubotu> hmm... kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:42] <CioN> hey all how do i forcefuly uninstall a package i got lillypond-data package and i can't remove it with synaptic
[03:42] <pepsi> i can do control-alt-Fn, and alt-tab seems to _want_ to work, and alt-f4 will try to close the window, but its vmware and i dont want to close it :(
[03:42] <pepsi> any ideas?
[03:42] <nemik> DR_Willis: great! thank you! i'll start googling around for that.
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> CioN,  apt-get has a remove/force option.
[03:43] <CioN> Dr_Willis oh man U a genius THX!
[03:44] <megryan> how do you uninstall programmes using command line on ubuntu
[03:44] <oskude> megryan: sudo apt-get remove <programname>
[03:44] <poningru> nemik: did you ever figure out that thing?
[03:44] <silverpower> poningru: I only had a ubuntu ISO to work with, and now I'm all out of CD-Rs, heh.
[03:44] <megryan> thanks - can't get rid of limewire
[03:45] <oskude> megryan: and to allso remove config files and co "sudo apt-get remove --purge remove <programname>"
[03:45] <poningru> silverpower: if you wait till april you can get kubuntu on shipit, if there are no complications
[03:45] <nemik> poningru: think i just got it in GNOME; it is in system -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media. though not as customizable as i want.
[03:45] <poningru> nemik: hold on let me see something
[03:45] <trappist> nemik: check /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
[03:46] <pepsi> seems that i can run apps via alt-f2.. hrm.. how do i activate mouse keys?
[03:46] <nemik> poningru: thanks, that sounds nice!
[03:46] <allison_1984> oskude: right...browser's soo slooooooow.........
[03:46] <megryan> thanks all
[03:47] <nemik> trappist: thanks for that, looks like what i need. BTW, what is %h in there?
[03:49] <silverpower> okay, it's churning away at fetching kubuntu-desktop.
[03:49] <rod> is it known that it is impossible to install nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR]  (rev 10) on breezy?
[03:49] <poningru> nemik: here check the usb.agent thing
[03:50] <poningru> doh what trappist said dude
[03:50] <reyn> Hi, I lost my /boot, is there some easy way of restoring my system ?
[03:51] <e27a04d25> hello everyone
[03:51] <nemik> poningru: not sure it is in there though. since GNOME has an import thing defaulted for digi-cams, but that does not show up in there, not sure where that command could be referenced from
[03:52] <allison_1984> oskude: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/488689
[03:53] <papa> Ich Gre Jeden in diesen Chat
[03:53] <oskude> allison_1984: reading..
[03:53] <Seicherl> anybody experienced with greping a partition directly?
[03:55] <poningru> nemik: hmm
[03:55] <nemik> poningru: has this: gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h
[03:56] <pa_l> why doesnt ubuntu support Qt????
[03:57] <reyn> apt-get kde, or just get kubuntu
[03:57] <oskude> allison_1984: hmm, didnt find about that in forums... do you really need cipherfunk.org ?
[03:57] <pa_l> kubuntu supports it?
[03:57] <reyn> anyone have an idea how I could restore a system that lost it's /boot dir ?
[03:58] <DMJC> what's the package that provides X?
[03:58] <DMJC> n/m
[03:58] <oskude> reyn: reinstall. (but im pretty sure theres a way to "recreate" /boot, but i never done that)
[03:59] <reyn> :\
[03:59] <pa_l> its so stupid not to support Qt
[04:00] <apokryphos> pa_l: "support" kde?
[04:00] <apokryphos> *Qt
[04:00] <oskude> "stupid" is so relative...
[04:00] <apokryphos> pa_l: what do you mean?
[04:00] <silverpower> How do I force the X server to restart?
[04:00] <Seveas> silverpower, <ctrl><alt><bksp>
[04:00] <apokryphos> silverpower: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:00] <e27a04d25> reyn, yes reinstall  your ubuntu but first partition your hard drive using GParted located in your Applications menu if you can't find Gparted in your Application menu install it go to system menu then administration point your cursur to add application then find Gparted and check it to install the Gparted, after that go back to application then you can partition your hard disk after the partition transfer all your file to the other partition & reins
[04:00] <e27a04d25> tall ubuntu that's all i can say to help you there's no other way but to that to restore your /boot
[04:01] <silverpower> Not what I was thinking of.
[04:01] <pa_l> ctr-l +alt + backspace and X will restart silverpower
[04:01] <Mathew> Hello.
[04:01] <SillyZ> Q: where do I find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9 ( stock kernel ) that comes with ubuntu ?
[04:01] <Ng> silverpower: what did you have in mind then?
[04:01] <DMJC> what is the X poackage in ubuntu?
[04:01] <DMJC> what's it called?
[04:01] <reyn> e27a04d25, thanks, I'll try partitioning before I reinstall
[04:01] <apokryphos> DMJC: xserver-xorg and -common
[04:01] <allison_1984> oskude: any notes ?
[04:02] <Mathew> I was wondering if someone would be able to help me with some simple unbuntu questions.
[04:02] <apokryphos> Mathew: ask away
[04:02] <Whistler> sure
[04:02] <oskude> allison_1984: as i said, do you really need that repo that has no GPG key ?
[04:02] <silverpower> See, normally, the X server restarts if I log out. But on Ubuntu, a simple logout didn't get the server to reload itself.
[04:02] <Mathew> how do I start and stop services? see a list of installed/running services?
[04:02] <reyn> e27a04d25, is there some way of partitioning an existing system in rescue mode ?
[04:02] <apokryphos> Mathew: ps aux; for a list of the top ones, 'top'
[04:03] <Mathew> silverpower.. ctrl+alt+bksp?
[04:03] <allison_1984> oskude: not really I guess....so then I delete it ?
[04:03] <Ng> silverpower: log out and then do ctrl-alt-backspace, or do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from a console
[04:03] <oskude> Mathew: the most services are controlled from "/etc/init.d/servicename start" or "stop/restart/reload"
[04:03] <Mathew> ok.. great
[04:03] <oskude> allison_1984: just put a "#" in front of that line in sources.list, and its commented-out
[04:03] <Mathew> brb.. going to take a look
[04:03] <silverpower> Ng: that's what I was looking for, thanks!
[04:04] <allison_1984> oskude: its defnitely taken up from automatix......alright.... thanks
[04:04] <oskude> allison_1984: if youre a newbie, i would advice ONLY to use main, universe and multiverse (definetly NOT backborts)
[04:04] <Mathew> strange.. I know I have sshd running..
[04:04] <Mathew> but can't see it in /etc/init.d
[04:05] <allison_1984> oskude: ay ay......
[04:05] <oskude> Mathew: i have etc/init.d/ssh
[04:05] <Mathew> let me see if thats it
[04:05] <Mathew> I don't think it is.
[04:05] <e27a04d25> reyn, yes as long your system is running & your hard disk is not damaged you can see to it you had the Gparted in the application menu so you can partition your hard disk. are you in safe mode now? can you restart?
[04:06] <oskude> Mathew: do you have "openssh-server" installed (dpkg -l | grep ssh)
[04:06] <Mathew> I do.
[04:06] <Mathew> I installed it with apt-get
[04:06] <apokryphos> Mathew: ps aux|grep ssh
[04:06] <oskude> allison_1984: im just saying that because the "unofficial" repos may broke your system faster than the "officials" :)
[04:06] <SillyZ> Q: where do I find the kernel source for 2.6.12-9 ( stock kernel ) that comes with ubuntu ?
[04:07] <Mathew> got it /usr/sbin/sshd
[04:07] <reyn> e27a04d25, I dont have a /boot, so I'v booted in rescue mode
[04:07] <Mathew> I started and stopped ssh in /etc/init.d but that didn't kill the server
[04:07] <reyn> e27a04d25, from the cd
[04:07] <oskude> Mathew: yeah, but the control script for services chould be in "etc/init.d/"
[04:07] <ppd> hi everybody ! has anybody noticed gnome trying to "eject" a usb disk with the "eject" command which gives an error
[04:07] <oskude> c=s
[04:07] <gnomefreak> SillyZ, you should beable to get it from the offical ubuntu site
[04:07] <silverpower> ...oh, *yay*. Now X won't even start!
[04:08] <gnomefreak> silverpower,  type startx
[04:08] <oskude> Mathew: did you do "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop" ?
[04:08] <Mathew> oskude, no.
[04:08] <Mathew> but it didn't give me an error
[04:08] <erUSUL> ppd, why are you doing it just umount the fs and unplug the usbkey
[04:08] <Seveas> SillyZ, ubuntu uses 2.6.12-10 now, enable security updates
[04:08] <e27a04d25> ok then, don't boot for now, just look for Gparted & reply back if you see it
[04:09] <Mathew> root@lappy:/home/mathew # /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[04:09] <Mathew>  * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                                           [ ok ] 
[04:09] <Mathew> root@lappy:/home/mathew # /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:09] <Mathew>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...
[04:09] <silverpower> gnomefreak: tried that. whined about missing symbols and puked.
[04:09] <erUSUL> Mathew, please do not paste
[04:09] <Mathew> and I had an open connection to it that didn't drop
[04:09] <Mathew> sorry
[04:09] <ppd> erUSUL, that's the automatic gnome umount stuff
[04:09] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[04:09] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:09] <Seveas> Mathew, shutting down the server does not close open connections
[04:09] <Mathew> really?
[04:09] <Mathew> wow.. that doenst seem right
[04:09] <gnomefreak> silverpower, may i ask why you want 2.6.12-9 instead of 2.6.12-10?
[04:10] <SillyZ> Seveas, Ive tried the 2.6.12-10 kernel, and I loose wifi connectivity with it , .9 works fine for me
[04:10] <Seveas> it is
[04:10] <Mathew> how would I stop someone from connecting it I coulndt drop connectinos by stopping the service?
[04:10] <Seveas> SillyZ, filed a bug already?
[04:10] <faken_> hi folks
[04:10] <faken_> i there somthink like a version file in ubuntu  ?
[04:10] <allison_1984> oskude: installing kstars now.....do you think a firewall is necessary for breezy ?
[04:10] <Seveas> faken_, /etc/lsb-release
[04:11] <gnomefreak> breezy already has one :))
[04:11] <faken_> thx Seveas
[04:11] <oskude> allison_1984: do you have a dsl router ?
[04:11] <erUSUL> ppd, i may have misunderstood you but you said that you used eject (only works on cdroms) on an usb disk
[04:11] <allison_1984> oskude: I have a nat
[04:11] <oskude> allison_1984: in the "common" language firewall is mostly just a nat...
[04:11] <joshi_> Is Half-Life supported on linux?
[04:11] <ppd> erUSUL, no gnome does it when umounting the device via the right click menu
[04:12] <SillyZ> not yet Seveas its gto something to do with the madwifi ( ath_pci ) driver, dont want to file one til I can pin point it
[04:12] <ppd> ppd, doesn't hurt as the device gets umounted properly but it's annoying
[04:12] <gnomefreak> silverpower, did X start?
[04:12] <Seveas> SillyZ, tried the madwifi drivers from users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas?
[04:12] <SillyZ> mmm not yet, but I will :)
[04:12] <silverpower> gnomefreak: no. it whined about missing symbols and then died.
[04:12] <Seveas> stock madwifi is broken, this bug has been filed already :)
[04:12] <oskude> allison_1984: i NEVER had software "firewalls" and had no problems (i have dsl router with nat)
[04:13] <e27a04d25> reyn, where are you?
[04:13] <ppd> erUSUL, this "problem" doesn't appear with USB sticks
[04:13] <gnomefreak> firewall is built into kernel in linux
[04:13] <silverpower> My Rage128 worked fine on my Gentoo install, with DRI turned on and everything.
[04:13] <allison_1984> oskude: I mentioned it because I have the option to install firestart.....but lets say for dial ups and cable internets....
[04:13] <gnomefreak> silverpower,  iim assuming since you restarted X you installed drivers for video card?
[04:13] <allison_1984> oskude: you seem to be in a fortress ;)
[04:14] <SillyZ> Seveas, is there anyway I can rsync just the i386 and i686 sections of the mirror locally ?
[04:14] <silverpower> gnomefreak: No, I turned off an option in xorg.conf to re-enable DRI.
[04:14] <Seveas> SillyZ, rsync what?
[04:15] <SillyZ> the ubuntu mirror, but just specific arch's
[04:15] <e27a04d25> reyn, where are you?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> silverpower,  go back in disable it and let me know if you can start X than
[04:15] <Seveas> hmm, dunno, you should ask mirrors AT ubuntu.com
[04:16] <ppd> erUSUL, it says: eject: Kann nicht auswerfen! Letzter Fehler: Das Argument ist ungltig which means "Couldn't eject! Last error: The argument is incorrect."
[04:16] <e27a04d25> i'm quiting this chat, are you still there?
[04:16] <oskude> allison_1984: but default ubuntu installation doesnt have any services installed nor running, so attack from outside is minimal even without nat(firewall)
[04:18] <allison_1984> oskude: was curious....
[04:18] <erUSUL> ppd, gnome umounts the filesystem it does not eject the usbdisk (it only does it with cdroms as i said) and is clear in the contextual menu for usb and disks it says umount the volume (desmontar el volumen in spanish) and for cdroms it says eject (expulsar in spanish)
[04:19] <simonian> hi there
[04:19] <simonian> iv'e got problems with centrino
[04:19] <silverpower> gnomefreak: the driver was set to ati, I changed it to r128, still no change. I didn't install any drivers.
[04:19] <simonian> i can't change the frequencie no mather what i do it is always set to min
[04:20] <oskude> allison_1984: i even didnt have problems on windoze when i only had a dsl-router nat and no software firewall (but dint ask what happened when i did dial-up and no firewalls, lol)
[04:20] <ppd> erUSUL, yes the menu says "umount" but it actually performs an "eject"
[04:20] <allison_1984> oskude: hmmmm...lots of headaches ?
[04:20] <silverpower> gnomefreak: I'm trying a known good xorg.conf from my Gentoo install.
[04:20] <ppd> erUSUL, I could make a screenshot
[04:21] <erUSUL> ppd, i do not know why you said it performs and eject. can you point me to the place you read or you learned it?
[04:21] <oskude> allison_1984: the dunny was how fast i got stuff in my windoze (i was only 5min online and had 10 spy/troja/etc stuff running) (well, i wanted that, as it was just a test)
[04:21] <oskude> *funny
[04:22] <zool2005> quick question, should I use a hub or switch to connect additional computers to my adsl router?
[04:22] <allison_1984> oskude: haha
[04:22] <b0ris> zool2005, switch
[04:22] <silverpower> gnomefreak: It complains about missing X11 modules with my Gentoo xorg.conf.
[04:22] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: both will work
[04:22] <zool2005> what is the difference?
[04:22] <allison_1984> oskude: so what are you running now ?
[04:23] <b0ris> zool2005, switch shares the available bandwith
[04:23] <allison_1984> oskude: dual boot ?
[04:23] <zool2005> ah
[04:23] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: the switch will only send the packets to the destination computer
[04:23] <b0ris> zool2005, hub just splits the bandwith in equal parts, even if no one is using it
[04:23] <oskude> allison_1984: tripple boot, but no widoze :)
[04:24] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: the hub will send the packets to all hosts
[04:24] <zool2005> how do I go about connecting peripherals to a network?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> silverpower, im not sure you can run gentoos xorg file under ubuntu but i do know that if your card is an ati it being set to ati is a good thing ive done this a few days ago with mine :(( after installing ati drivers i changed mine and it didnt work i put it back on ati and worked fine
[04:24] <b0ris> zool2005, GenghisKhan explanation is better  : ) (anyway, manufacturer mostly sell switches, nowadays)
[04:24] <allison_1984> oskude: nice.......what do you do with all of them ? :)
[04:24] <ppd> erUSUL, i made some screenshots. I'll upload them. Just a minute
[04:25] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: you mean devices with an ethernet conection or sharing devices connected to a computer?
[04:25] <oskude> allison_1984: i have, breezy, dapper, and debian (just for testing, this whole pc is my test system)
[04:25] <zool2005> ethernet
[04:25] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: if you have a dhcp server, just plug
[04:25] <markitoxs> hello, can anyone know, help me with photoshop installation, it gets frozen after initializing the installshield, i tried with cedega also..
[04:25] <oskude> allison_1984: on my laptop i have breezy and xp
[04:26] <allison_1984> oskude: nice combo....likewise with my laptop
[04:26] <blue-frog> markitoxs, use gimp otherwise use windows..
[04:26] <zool2005> GenghisKhan, just an appropriate cable required then?
[04:26] <silverpower> gnomefreak: I edited the xorg.conf to fix the paths (modules in the wrong places) and it simply dies with the 'no symbols found' error.
[04:27] <b0ris> markitoxs, this is the help channel for Ubuntu here.. I don't think you try to run Photoshop under Ubuntu, right ?
[04:27] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: straight ethernet cable will work always
[04:27] <markitoxs> blue-frog nice answer, but just want to fix that installation issue
[04:27] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: also, some switches support crossed ethernet
[04:27] <silverpower> that's with both r128 and ati. Doesn't make a difference.
[04:27] <markitoxs> b0ris, sure i do, where's the poblem?
[04:27] <zool2005> surely the peripheral requires an ethernet port
[04:27] <oskude> allison_1984: i dont use xp like for anything, but some of my "clients" insist on iexploder compalibity...
[04:27] <b0ris> markitoxs, thru Wine ?
[04:27] <markitoxs> sure
[04:27] <gnomefreak> silverpower, this is on breezy?
[04:28] <markitoxs> i already installed plenty of win software
[04:28] <ppd> erUSUL, here: http://home.arcor.de/guenter.federle/screen.tar.bz2
[04:28] <markitoxs> but all my photoshops can't get pass thru the installshield screen
[04:28] <allison_1984> oskude: lol, I have kept mine only for mixing music...not much of a gamer though.....
[04:28] <silverpower> gnomefreak: yep.
[04:29] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: of course, you need an ethernet port in the switch for each peripheral
[04:29] <SatanLvsU2> I have to say guys.. I was very impressed with how easy and clean unbuntu is. however it's lacking the administrative tools I'm used to.. am I missing something?
[04:29] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, what are you used to?
[04:29] <oskude> allison_1984: yeah, for those "entertainmet" needs windoze is still usefull (but for gaming, tmw seems enough for me atm :)
[04:30] <DMJC> gstreamer multimedia systems selector
[04:30] <SatanLvsU2> commands like "service" "setup" "config-"
[04:30] <DMJC> what's the package for it?
[04:30] <SatanLvsU2> redhat stuff
[04:30] <zool2005> GenghisKhan, my printer has a usb port, what do I need to connect it to a hub/switch,
[04:30] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, u must be missing something indeed... system>administration
[04:30] <markitoxs> hello, can anyone know, help me with photoshop installation, it gets frozen after initializing the installshield, i tried with cedega also..
[04:30] <silverpower> gnomefreak: okay, turning back on UseFBDev gives me X again. Let's see if DRI also works now.
[04:30] <gnomefreak> silverpower,  ok
[04:30] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: you can't connect it. you connect it the printer to a computer and then share it through networking
[04:30] <allison_1984> oskude: imagine my surprise...vids that won't run on windoze did fine in ubuntu...wow...
[04:30] <SatanLvsU2> blue-frog, not much in that list.. no services
[04:31] <SatanLvsU2> no hardward control
[04:31] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, what are you trying to do?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> no hardware control
[04:31] <SatanLvsU2> spoke to soon on that one
[04:31] <SatanLvsU2> sorry
[04:31] <gnomefreak> ah
[04:31] <zool2005> I want to be able to share peripherals without the host computer being on, is it poss?
[04:31] <kresten> Hi everybody! Since I did "sudo dpkg -r w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" I've lost sound on my video files... Can anyone help?
[04:31] <oskude> allison_1984: huh, divx ?
[04:31] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, personally i see services but well...
[04:31] <allison_1984> oskude: but funnily some dvds won't run...
[04:31] <SatanLvsU2> gnomefreak, I'm looking to get a better idea of what's going on with my system...
[04:31] <superchode> how do i navigate to a folder on the desktop through the terminal?
[04:32] <SatanLvsU2> service managment for the first thing
[04:32] <uh60pilot> anyone know a good proxy checker for linux?
[04:32] <markitoxs> superchode,  cd /home/USERNAME/Desktop/FOLDER
[04:32] <oskude> allison_1984: some dvds (layer cake) wont even play on my old harware dvd player :(
[04:32] <superchode> thx
[04:32] <allison_1984> oskude: dvd videos
[04:32] <Hendikins> uh60pilot: What are you trying to do?
[04:32] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: i don't think so. if your printer hasn't got ethernet, you'll need a computer (or another device working as a computer)
[04:32] <uh60pilot> just wanting to check the status of a list of proxies
[04:32] <SatanLvsU2> blue-frog, you see "System --> administration --> services"??
[04:32] <blue-frog> yes
[04:33] <uh60pilot> http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html <---- for response time
[04:33] <Hendikins> uh60pilot: If you want to use those proxies for anonymisation, have you considered tor instead?
[04:33] <zool2005> GenghisKhan : or a switch with usb port
[04:33] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, just under printing
[04:33] <uh60pilot> tor? no I haven't but does it allow proxy switching?
[04:33] <SatanLvsU2> I see, printers, shared folders
[04:33] <murr-> what's te best program for ripping audio cds?
[04:33] <SatanLvsU2> greaaaaat.
[04:33] <Hendikins> uh60pilot: Read: http://tor.eff.org/
[04:33] <uh60pilot> going there now
[04:34] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: don't think that it exists, and if it does it would be for ethernet over usb, not managing a printer over usb
[04:34] <allison_1984> oskude: well I gotta check out kstars...looks very grooveeee...... :)
[04:34] <erUSUL> ppd, it seems that you whare right. i did not know that gnome uses eject with usb drives. i'm afraid i can not help you... :(
[04:34] <silverpower> gnomefreak: DRI also works. Gentoo prefers UseFBDev turned off, but apparently Ubuntu prefers it on.
[04:34] <gnomefreak> murr-, thats not gonna get you a spiecfic answer :(( but try gnomebaker or k3b
[04:34] <GenghisKhan> zool2005: printers without ethernet lack a printer server and most also lack postscript interpretation, so they need a computer managing them
[04:34] <oskude> allison_1984: never tested..
[04:35] <ppd> erUSUL, thank you very much ! :-) hopefully somebody knows a solution...
[04:35] <taomaster>  having a hard time opening up a tar.gz file. anyone with a step by step help
[04:35] <zool2005> GenghisKhan : nevermind, I'll have to make do then
[04:35] <superchode> markitoxs: it's not allowing me to navigate to the desktop or beyond
[04:35] <Hendikins> uh60pilot: If you feel you must use something like that, or you're behind the great firewall of china, it is a better solution than using random proxies.
[04:35] <SatanLvsU2> brb
[04:35] <markitoxs> superchode, why?
[04:35] <GenghisKhan> toamaster: tar zxvf file.tar.gz
[04:35] <superchode> returns no such file or directory
[04:35] <blue-frog> taomaster, use nautilus (file explorer) or tar xzf file.tar.gz
[04:35] <markitoxs> superchode,  go to terminal
[04:36] <markitoxs> cd /home
[04:36] <gnomefreak> cool silverpower im glad you got it
[04:36] <markitoxs> then
[04:36] <allison_1984> oskude: its like the google earth concept...but for stars
[04:36] <markitoxs> cd USERNAME
[04:36] <superchode> yeah, that works
[04:36] <oskude> allison_1984: ah ok, sounds nice
[04:36] <superchode> then 'dir' shows 'Desktop'
[04:36] <markitoxs> now cd Desktop
[04:36] <superchode> but i can't cd to it
[04:36] <Whalid> Hi, anyone tried to develop database front ends with Glom?
[04:36] <allison_1984> :))))))))
[04:36] <markitoxs> what does it say?
[04:36] <markitoxs> wirte with capital D
[04:36] <Whalid> I am wondering if there is a better solution...
[04:37] <superchode> i've tried all combos of caps/no-caps
[04:37] <markitoxs> type cd D and then tabulate
[04:37] <murr-> gnomefreak: well, in windows world the best is clearly Exact Audio Copy. i was just wondering if there would be something equally superior for linux
[04:37] <GenghisKhan> murr-: you have flac
[04:37] <blue-frog> murr-, sound juicer, audacity...
[04:38] <superchode> k, i see what i was doing wrong now
[04:38] <SatanLvsU2> blue-frog, should I find my unbuntu disk and see if there is a system administration package I'm missing?
[04:38] <superchode> doesn't want too see a '/' in front
[04:38] <superchode> to*
[04:38] <kresten> Hi everybody! Since I did "sudo dpkg -r w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" I've lost sound on my video files... Can anyone help?
[04:38] <superchode> thx for the tabulate tip
[04:38] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, don't understand your question
[04:38] <apokryphos> kresten: install it, then
[04:39] <apokryphos> kresten: that command would remove it
[04:39] <Blippe> is it only speed i am losing if i use the sources instead of the debs in the reps?
[04:39] <SatanLvsU2> I assume that because I don't have "services" under system administration that it's because I didn't install a package to manage services
[04:39] <SatanLvsU2> I honestly don't remember
[04:39] <SatanLvsU2> it was a while ago
[04:39] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, what kind of install did you do?
[04:39] <SatanLvsU2> Perhaps there is a way to tell what build I'm running and see how behind i am?
[04:40] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, uname -r
[04:40] <kresten> apokryphos,  My bad... I copied the wrong line it was of course with the -i option...
[04:40] <poningru> kresten: you uninstalled the 'codec' you have install it again
[04:40] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, are you on breezy? if so it should be there by default under the default install
[04:40] <poningru> oh
[04:40] <apokryphos> kresten: you don't get sound *after* you installed that? In every single player?
[04:40] <SatanLvsU2> how can I tell?
[04:40] <ppd> so, does anybody know how to tell gnome not to "eject" my usb disk?
[04:40] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, uname -r
[04:40] <gnomefreak> uname -r what kernel does it say?
[04:41] <gnomefreak> 2.6.........
[04:41] <blue-frog> SatanLvsU2, or click question mark on your taskbar...
[04:41] <SatanLvsU2> 2.6.10-5-386
[04:41] <kresten> apokryphos, just tryed mplayer. Totem doesn't seem to work properly on my system...
[04:41] <bettong_BOFH> how do you get ubuntu to tell you how much hard drive space it has in human speak? in terminal?
[04:41] <SatanLvsU2> on a p2 400Mhz laptop
[04:41] <apokryphos> bettong_BOFH: df -h
[04:41] <bettong_BOFH> thank you
[04:41] <oskude> ppd: make an entry in /etc/fstab and mount it manually (dunno howto tell not to automount usb thou)
[04:41] <silverpower> SatanLvsU2: ctrl-alt-F1. It should say something like 'Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" zetagundam tty5'
[04:41] <gnomefreak> is that hoarys kernel?
[04:41] <apokryphos> kresten: hm, try with something like xine.
[04:41] <osfameron> any suggestions how I can fix my cupsd?
[04:42] <osfameron> It won't startup complaining "Child existed with status (13|99)!"
[04:42] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, run uname -a it will tell you more info
[04:42] <GenghisKhan> gnomefreak: no, it's 2.6.12-10-686
[04:42] <blue-frog> bettong_BOFH, df
[04:42] <osfameron> not changed printers.conf or cupsd.conf that I remember
[04:42] <osfameron> !cupsd
[04:42] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, osfameron
[04:42] <gnomefreak> GenghisKhan, that is breezys kernel
[04:42] <ppd> oskude: I wanted to make it work with gnome-volume-manager automount
[04:42] <apokryphos> osfameron: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart     doesn't help?
[04:42] <SatanLvsU2> 5.04 hoary hedghog
[04:43] <SatanLvsU2> a little behind the times then...
[04:43] <GenghisKhan> gnomefreak, oh yes, i mistook the names. yes 2.6.10 is hoary
[04:43] <oskude> ppd: dunno
[04:43] <osfameron> apokryphos: aha, I'm stuck in a big maze of twisty manpages, didn't come across that incantation
[04:43] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2,  ok thought that was hoarys kernel  i didnt use hoary for more than a day :((
[04:43] <ppd> oskude: thank you
[04:43] <murr-> ok, thanks to you all
[04:43] <SillyZ> Seveas, well this is quite intresting , updated to .10 like you said, and still have device ath0 ( wifi ) dunno what the deal was before, maybe it was just the laptop that lost it
[04:43] <gnomefreak> i would think that it would still havet he services selection tho
[04:43] <tenco> is there a ubuntu developer channel?
[04:44] <osfameron> apokryphos: nope, exited with 99 again
[04:44] <gnomefreak> tenco, not really
[04:44] <apokryphos> curious
[04:44] <apokryphos> tenco: yes, #ubuntu-devel
[04:44] <kemik> yes
[04:44] <kemik> #ubuntu-devel
[04:44] <tenco> apokryphos: thanks
[04:44] <SatanLvsU2> hmmm.
[04:44] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, not really its normally empty
[04:44] <SatanLvsU2> oh well. Time to start all over again
[04:44] <oskude> ppd: what i ment, i dont quite understand you, you dont want gnome to "eject" (unmount?) usb-flash and you want to use it with gnome-volume... and automount... ?!
[04:44] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: it has 147 users -- not what I call empty.
[04:44] <DMJC> w00t
[04:44] <DMJC> music
[04:45] <DMJC> rhythmbox + ubuntu + X
[04:45] <gnomefreak> everytime ive gone there it was empty :((
[04:45] <osfameron> apokryphos: is it worth reinstalling cups or something?  (This is where I wish I had bothered to version control /etc...)
[04:45] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: maybe you were going to -dev?
[04:45] <kresten> apokryphos, Well just tried, but x froze...
[04:45] <apokryphos> osfameron: this is a really windoze solution, but it might be easy to do a restart.
[04:45] <SatanLvsU2> what kind of nix is unbuntu? debianish?
[04:45] <Hendikins> 147 users is more than #firefox (120)
[04:45] <apokryphos> SatanLvsU2: yes. See /msg ubotu relationship
[04:45] <GenghisKhan> SatanLvsU2: yes, it's debian derivate
[04:45] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, its based on debian if that is what your asking
[04:46] <ppd> oskude: see these images: http://home.arcor.de/guenter.federle/screen.tar.bz2 This describes my problem...
[04:46] <SatanLvsU2> yep, just curious
[04:46] <osfameron> apokryphos: clean reboot 4 hours ago, but I guess I'll try that...
[04:46] <oskude> ppd: looking...
[04:46] <SillyZ> how can one install kde3.5.0 on ubnutu? ( wife is a kde fanatic ) .... is it possible to run both on the same system under ubuntu?
[04:46] <SillyZ> just apt-get install kde?
[04:47] <tucker> Goodday.
[04:47] <gnomefreak> SillyZ, add the kubuntu repo and update than install it :))
[04:47] <apokryphos> SillyZ: you can have them both running fine. You need to add another repo for 3.5
[04:47] <bipolar> nope. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <apokryphos> !kde 3.5
[04:47] <ubotu> kde 3.5 is, like, at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[04:47] <osfameron> hrmpf, .../cupsys stop then start doesn't give an error (but doesn't seem to start cupsd either)
[04:47] <SillyZ> ok thanks
[04:47] <tucker> I've got a question about the usb module, how can I make sure a usb external HD is mounted automaticly?
[04:47] <SatanLvsU2> I have to say.. ubuntu is very clean... never had an install or interface be so easy or clean
[04:48] <SatanLvsU2> downloading 5.10 now
[04:48] <SillyZ> ok why do I get fixdep.c errors when attempting to make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux?
[04:48] <tucker> 5.10 is verry stable!
[04:48] <SillyZ> 5.10 rocks :)
[04:48] <oskude> ppd: hmm...
[04:48] <Seicherl> anybody experienced with filerecovery on ext3?
[04:48] <ppd> oskude: it's german but you should get what I mean
[04:49] <oskude> ppd: start terminal, type "mount" and see where your flash is mounted, and try "umount /path/to/flash" and see if you get any usefull error messages (np, i can german too)
[04:49] <SatanLvsU2> just the fact that there is an IRC client installed that takes me right here when I open it is a bonus
[04:49] <SatanLvsU2> ONE complaint..
[04:49] <sorush20> I keep getting DVD palyback complete freeze.. I have amd 64 32000 (2ghz) running on Asus A8v motherboard, 521 ram 4oomhz, kubuntu 386 Sata segate 7200 rpm ... Do I need to  install anything special for the sata to work like dma for sata or anything else?
[04:50] <SatanLvsU2> brown???
[04:50] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, change it
[04:50] <apokryphos> SatanLvsU2: not on KDE :D
[04:50] <silverpower> That, and relatively modern kernels, heheh.
[04:50] <SatanLvsU2> the startup though
[04:50] <apokryphos> SatanLvsU2: blue for kubuntu ;-)
[04:50] <gnomefreak> the start up is blue after a kubuntu -desktop install
[04:50] <SatanLvsU2> I already changed my theme
[04:50] <SatanLvsU2> I'm talking about the OS startup
[04:50] <gnomefreak> i really like the blue on black
[04:51] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, yes we know
[04:51] <SatanLvsU2> hmm, ok..
[04:51] <SatanLvsU2> how would I change it>
[04:51] <gnomefreak> where it says ubuntu and the mod load
[04:51] <gnomefreak> mods
[04:51] <silverpower> Do I have to change my repositories in order to use kubuntu?
[04:51] <SatanLvsU2> I kinda like gnome
[04:51] <apokryphos> SatanLvsU2: you can have the kubuntu one with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:51] <ppd> oskude: umounts cleanly. no error messages. I have to add that also in gnome the disk gets umounted correctly ! It's you this lousy error message
[04:51] <gnomefreak> install kubuntu-desktop :))
[04:51] <apokryphos> silverpower: no, but if you want the latest version of kde you will have to, yes.
[04:51] <gnomefreak> the log in screen is easy to change  but the loading screen not so easy
[04:51] <apokryphos> silverpower: /msg ubotu kde 3.5
[04:52] <tucker> q
[04:52] <oskude> ppd: hmm, maybe a bug...
[04:52] <silverpower> apokryphos: ah, saw that message and assumed I'd have to fiddle with repositories.
[04:52] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <apokryphos> #kubuntu has been getting steadily bigger, too
[04:53] <apokryphos> as has this chan =)
[04:53] <gnomefreak> this channel has been getting alot busier lately
[04:53] <gnomefreak> thats a good and bad thing
[04:53] <SatanLvsU2> will installing kubuntu screw up my gnome desktop?
[04:54] <apokryphos> no
[04:54] <gnomefreak> no SatanLvsU2
[04:54] <SatanLvsU2> k
[04:54] <veklita> hello
[04:54] <SatanLvsU2> and I'll be able to swtich between the two>
[04:54] <gnomefreak> hi
[04:54] <ppd> oskude: hm :-(
[04:54] <gnomefreak> SatanLvsU2, yes from log-in screen
[04:54] <harfooz> hi all. I want to the Gnome calendar applet to start the week with Sunday, but it's currently starting with Monday. How do I change that?
[04:54] <sorush20> could someone please let me know how I can translate this page to english?
[04:54] <sorush20> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GermanSATAHowto
[04:55] <gnomefreak> on the log-in screen you will see sessions that is where you choose what desktop to boot into
[04:55] <gnomefreak> !sata
[04:55] <ubotu> gnomefreak: What?
[04:55] <silverpower> It's strange, and the good folks on #gentoo-ppc will probably ream me out for this, but I actually like both Gentoo and Ubuntu now. It picked up everything except for DRI and mouse button emulation.
[04:55] <veklita> I have a powerbook with a mostly dead hard drive, and i currently have it booted on an Ubunto Live CD
[04:56] <oskude> ppd: btw. "man eject" doesnt mention anything about usb-flash sticks...
[04:56] <gnomefreak> silverpower, ubuntu is much easier than gentoo to install/use/configure/everything else
[04:56] <veklita> And I'm wondering how I might try to mount the hard drive to get access to it and try and recover some dayta
[04:56] <veklita> data^
[04:56] <ppd> oskude: It's not a flash stick, it's a harddisk attach on the usb port. I don't get any error messages with my usb stick
[04:57] <bakpao> !keyboard
[04:57] <ubotu> bakpao: I haven't a clue
[04:57] <bakpao> !help
[04:57] <silverpower> veklita: what was the machine running?
[04:57] <veklita> OS X 10.4
[04:58] <veklita> it won't boot anymore, but what it will do is boot into "single user mode"
[04:58] <marcus_> ./nick Catweazle
[04:58] <veklita> essentially it boots into Darwin with the hard drive as read only
[04:58] <UniqueName> Can someone help me get widescreen working with my laptop ubuntu or gnome does not like widescreen to much (my xorg file is setup correctly for widescreen)
[04:58] <SatanLvsU2> installing now
[04:58] <SatanLvsU2> fun fun fun
[04:58] <veklita> and in that mode I can see all of my files
[04:58] <Catweazle> hi zusammen
[04:58] <Seicherl> anybody experienced with filerecovery on ext3?
[04:58] <veklita> but I can't remount as read write
[04:58] <SatanLvsU2> of course, it will all be wiped once I have the other disk burned.
[04:59] <silverpower> veklita: ...What generation of Powerbook are we talking here? you're running Ubuntu, so I assume you have a G3?
[04:59] <veklita> powerbook g4
[04:59] <Catweazle> ppd ?
[04:59] <veklita> 15" aluminum
[04:59] <sorush20> Do I need to set up DMA for sata?
[04:59] <veklita> about 2 years old
[05:00] <silverpower> veklita: Do you have another mac?
[05:00] <Ng> sorush20: no
[05:00] <veklita> yea, i'm on it now
[05:00] <silverpower> veklita: one with a firewire port?
[05:00] <veklita> but target disk mode wouldn't mount the drive
[05:00] <veklita> yea
[05:00] <silverpower> veklita: ah, that was going to be my suggestion.
[05:01] <osfameron> OK, for my cupsd problem, I've enabled logging, and the error appears to be " StartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 7f000001:631 - Cannot assign requested address."
[05:01] <veklita> i spent all day yesterday trying stuff and so far i've got nothing, and the guys at apple didn't have any suggestions either
[05:01] <veklita> but its weird that i can mount the drive in single user mode you know?
[05:01] <osfameron> which is odd, as it seems to work for colleague with no change.
[05:01] <SatanLvsU2> anyone here use gentoo?
[05:01] <ppd> Catweazle: im query
[05:01] <silverpower> anyway, it's mount -t hfsplus /dev/hda<x> /path/to/mount
[05:02] <veklita> where do i find the x though
[05:02] <silverpower> veklita: through the magic of 'mac-fdisk -l', lol
[05:02] <erUSUL> osfameron, maybe another instance of cups is already bind to the port. or other program. do 'netstat -putan | less' to check it
[05:02] <silverpower> SatanLvsU2: I do. What's up?
[05:02] <veklita> silverpower: doesn't list it
[05:03] <silverpower> veklita: my bad! mac-fdisk -l /dev/hda
[05:03] <UniqueName> Can someone help me get widescreen working with my laptop ubuntu or gnome does not like widescreen to much (my xorg file is setup correctly for widescreen)
[05:03] <SatanLvsU2> just moving from one distro to the next comparing (as much as a newb can)
[05:03] <SatanLvsU2> what do you think of the packaging system>?
[05:03] <veklita> it lists: /dev/hdc1 Apple-partition-map 1k and /dev/hdc2 Apple_HFS unubtu 658MB
[05:04] <GenghisKhan> UniqueName: which is the problem?
[05:04] <silverpower> veklita: no /dev/hda? that's a problem.
[05:04] <veklita> silverpower:  that command gives me a "can't open file" error
[05:04] <osfameron> erUSUL: from my client PC?  nothing there binding to that port or IP
[05:04] <silverpower> veklita: Oh, boy. That's not good.
[05:04] <GenghisKhan> silverpower: some kernels mistake a ibook/powerbook hard drive as /dev/hdc
[05:04] <UniqueName> GenghisKhan, the problem is that i cant select the widescreen thing in gnome and i need widescreen
[05:05] <UniqueName> GenghisKhan, xorg is setup correctly
[05:05] <veklita> is there a command to get more info about /dev/hdc1
[05:05] <silverpower> SatanLvsU2: I like it, though there's a LOT to watch out for, and it's not for someone who is not willing to slave over it.
[05:05] <veklita> i.e. how it's connected
[05:05] <GenghisKhan> UniqueName: i don't use gnome nor have widescreen, but afaik the desktop should span all the screen wide
[05:05] <GenghisKhan> UniqueName: do you get black bars at the sides?
[05:05] <UniqueName> I just read a thing on google that said it could be because its a new laptop and a new screen
[05:06] <CodenameKT> UniqueName. I have widescreen on xorg but run flux
[05:06] <UniqueName> no the screen is just stretched
[05:06] <thegladiator> a very fundamanetal doubt , is 256 MB RAM good enough for GNOME , many of my applications tend to close out of the blue
[05:06] <CodenameKT> unique:merged fb stretched or what?
[05:06] <blue-frog> veklita, df /dev/hdc1, but not sure that's what you want..
[05:07] <silverpower> veklita: hmm. /dev/hdc is showing your CD drive.
[05:07] <veklita> gives me a no such file or directory error
[05:07] <zool2005> can anyone tell me how to get the panel at the bottom of this screenshot please? : http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=157810041405a8436d52f1&p=screen
[05:07] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, yes it should be fine
[05:07] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, whats yours ?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> 512
[05:08] <thegladiator> it should be fine , but its been a good experience . nau-restartilus and other programs havent gievn me a good experience
[05:08] <thegladiator> not been*
[05:08] <veklita> yea, in the device manager, it doesn't list anything on the IDE device where the hard drive should be
[05:08] <gnomefreak> gnome should run fine on 256ram not great but fine. are you sure its the ram causeing your issues?
[05:08] <harfooz> My Gnome calendar applet starts each week with Monday, rather than the desired Sunday, but I don't see how to fix this. Does anyone know how to change that setting?
[05:09] <veklita> does anyone know if it owuld be possible to mount a firewire hard drive while booted into darwin with read only access to the drive?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> that looks like a custom xfce menu bar
[05:10] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, none of the users are experiencing these problems . a wide variety of programs tend to close out of the blue
[05:10] <thegladiator> hence I dont think its a dependency issue
[05:10] <silverpower> veklita: In Linux, yes. In Darwin, it should work.
[05:10] <thegladiator> tell 212 if the programs can run , and close like that . it shud be the memory issue aint it ?
[05:10] <veklita> will it work with my iPod do you think?
[05:10] <blue-frog> veklita, to play with firewire disks your user must be member of disk group
[05:11] <silverpower> veklita: Maybe. Does it show up as a valid Firewire device normally?
[05:11] <veklita> (i should have said originally read only access to the boot drive)
[05:11] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, does every app close or just a few?
[05:11] <veklita> yea, let me go get it from upstairs, be right back
[05:11] <thegladiator> i cant say every but many have close in the recent past
[05:12] <thegladiator> like a azureus , firefox,mozilla , Xchat! , and few java clients...
[05:12] <thegladiator> these aer the stuffs i Use frquently
[05:12] <thegladiator> most of them have close nad not to forget nautilus
[05:12] <gnomefreak> java uses a crap load of ram to run
[05:12] <thegladiator> thats one possibility
[05:12] <gnomefreak> azureus is java also
[05:12] <thegladiator> yes
[05:12] <silverpower> thegladiator: How big is your swap file?
[05:13] <thegladiator> swap file ?
[05:13] <thegladiator> partiion?
[05:13] <silverpower> swap partition, I mean.
[05:13] <thegladiator> 1 GB
[05:13] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, yes swap file
[05:13] <Ng> and how much RAM do you have?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> partion
[05:13] <thegladiator> how do i check that again ?
[05:13] <silverpower> ! that should be plenty.
[05:13] <ubotu> silverpower: Are you smoking crack?
[05:13] <gnomefreak> thats why big enough
[05:13] <thegladiator> 25 MB DDR :(
[05:13] <Ng> 256mb?
[05:13] <Ng> 1.25gb is easily enough
[05:13] <gnomefreak> 256
[05:13] <sorush20> how do I improve the dvd play back its a little fuzzy round the edges of the images?
[05:13] <thegladiator> 256*
[05:13] <Ng> I wouldn't go blaming java just yet
[05:14] <olicat> whats the best way of backing up my hard drive onto cd's?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> Ng,  he was blaming ram
[05:14] <Ng> especially not with "helpful" statements about its memory usage ;)
[05:14] <thegladiator> how do i check my swap size again ?
[05:14] <Ng> thegladiator: free
[05:14] <gnomefreak> 256 should be fine to run gnome
[05:14] <thegladiator> shud be fine ,but with java programs that I run I suspect there is some shortage
[05:15] <veklita> i can only find a USB connector for the iPod
[05:15] <gnomefreak> thegladiator,  run the command free
[05:15] <veklita> so i'll try that
[05:15] <Prozac> Hmmm if i fucked my firefox up good, how would i do a clean re-install? at the momment when i start it, it says starting firefox and then it closes again
[05:15] <thegladiator> how can  check my swap and does the actie programs uses SWAP ?
[05:15] <thegladiator> yes
[05:15] <silverpower> thegladiator: I would say your actual module is what's leading you into the Land of Random Segfaults and Kernel Panics.
[05:15] <veklita> i don't know if it will work since this is a 3g ipode
[05:15] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, the free command should give you used ram
[05:15] <thegladiator> Swap:      1028120     195712     832408
[05:15] <thegladiator> silverpower, whats the fix you would suggest ?
[05:16] <thegladiator> there are many segfaults i encounter
[05:16] <LabThug> Can't locate Date/Manip.pm in @INC   is this added through synaptic or Perl's CPAN?
[05:16] <J0e> Woo hoo, finally running linux
[05:16] <thegladiator> i dont know the workarounds for these things yet
[05:16] <silverpower> thegladiator: Replace your memory. That's all you *can* do.
[05:16] <thegladiator> J0e, welcome :)
[05:16] <Ng> thegladiator: I think you should install memtest86+ and test your ram
[05:16] <J0e> is their anyway I can run half life 2 on linux?
[05:16] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, are you on breezy?
[05:16] <Ng> J0e: it just about runs in cedega, maybe even in wine
[05:16] <thegladiator> yes breezy
[05:16] <Ng> J0e: cedega isn't free thogh
[05:16] <Ng> +u
[05:16] <thegladiator> nope
[05:16] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[05:16] <thegladiator> not dapper
[05:17] <thegladiator> i got the breezy cd actually
[05:17] <thegladiator> 5.10
[05:17] <thegladiator> let me instyall memtest and give a try
[05:17] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, dapper is having issues with segfault
[05:17] <thegladiator> i see
[05:17] <silverpower> JOe: Not on wine. Cedega, maybe, if you pray to Linus or something.
[05:17] <gnomefreak> thats why i thought that
[05:17] <thegladiator> i dont try unstable things actully since there a few important things that i don on this system
[05:18] <thegladiator> Ng, lets say the memtest gives me a good result
[05:18] <thegladiator> would it still be a problem with the ram ?
[05:18] <thegladiator> heavy loading of RAM ?
[05:18] <silverpower> JOe: Steamless HL1 will probably work, but that's it.
[05:19] <veklita> hmm
[05:19] <thefish> anyone know of a network switcher (to switch between wired/wireless) that understands wpa? i dont want to use wep!
[05:19] <thegladiator> i cant run memtest86+ from terminal or can I ?
[05:19] <veklita> i plugged in the ipod and got a bunch of messages
[05:19] <silverpower> veklita: are you in Darwin or Ubuntu atm?
[05:19] <veklita> extension com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSeirlaButProtocal blah blah has no kernel dependency
[05:19] <veklita> Darwin
[05:19] <thefish> anyone know of a network switcher (to switch between wired/wireless) that understands wpa? i dont want to use wep!
[05:20] <silverpower> veklita: Oh, FUN.
[05:20] <aedes> is there a way to geta clock to appear on the task bar?
[05:20] <silverpower> veklita: Try connecting your other machine via Firewire.
[05:20] <thegladiator> Ng, if the memtest runs fine ? then there aint no need to upgrade RAM to 512 ? like can I assume that the problem is not with the RAM?
[05:20] <GenghisKhan> J0e: hl2 will work on cedega http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=60
[05:20] <Ng> thegladiator: if memtest runs fine then the problem is not with your ram
[05:20] <thegladiator> segfaults can be caused at random if the memory is 256MB ?
[05:20] <veklita> silverpower: i'd have to restart
[05:20] <veklita> and wouldn't be in irc
[05:21] <silverpower> no OSX IRC client installed, I take it?
[05:21] <thegladiator> Ng, wonder then what could cause this . I havent done much after the fresh installation as to modify anything or such things
[05:21] <Ng> thegladiator: segfaults shouldn't ever happen at random
[05:21] <thegladiator> ah
[05:21] <veklita> no, you don't get to use OS X and be in target disk mode
[05:21] <Ng> thegladiator: they are normally caused by bugs, but if running one application is upsetting the rest of your system then I am tempted to think it is the ram
[05:22] <hk> hi! Im adding a printer thats hosted in a windows box, the printer wizard detects it ok... but then it asks for user/password but I havent set user/password for that printer, is there a default username/passoword ? (using breezy)
[05:22] <thegladiator> ah
[05:22] <thegladiator> RAM wud be  good bet I guess
[05:22] <silverpower> veklita: well, it's worth a shot. mount the remote machine read/write and pray. :)
[05:22] <JoeBlow> Hey guys, can I run the normal linux drivers for my video card when im using 64 bit ubuntu?
[05:23] <Ng> you will need 64bit drivers
[05:23] <JoeBlow> i wonder if i can find 64 bit ati drivers
[05:23] <Ng> they ought to be included
[05:23] <JoeBlow> in linux?
[05:23] <Ng> see the BinaryDriverHowto wiki page
[05:23] <Ng> in ubuntu :)
[05:24] <JoeBlow> alright trhnx
[05:24] <JoeBlow> thnx*
[05:24] <thegladiator> time for a restart
[05:24] <zool2005> JoeBlow, I would recommend using the i386 version of Ubuntu unless you really need the 64bit version as I found it to be a pain to find 64 bit apps etc
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> I agree with zool2005
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> i reinstalled the 386 just because of that.
[05:25] <aedes> thefish, I thought hostap could handle that
[05:25] <aedes> aedes, do you mean a bridge?
[05:26] <thefish> aedes: not checked out hostap, just found netapplet
[05:26] <thefish> will look ,thanks
[05:26] <JoeBlow> whats the best media player to use with ubuntu?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  depends on the media.. and wjhat you want it to do.
[05:26] <Kyral> JoeBlow: Like so manythings in the Linux world, its a matter of opinion :D
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:27] <LabThug> JowBlow, enable the multiverse collections and then install mplayer, that plays the most types of files
[05:27] <JoeBlow> whats the basic standard for mp3, avi, mpeg video
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> video = vlc,mplayer,xine
[05:27] <Kyral> I prefer VLC and Xine for video
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> mp3 = kaffine, Juk, xmms, beep-media-player
[05:27] <Kyral> Beep Media Player hands down for Audio
[05:27] <JoeBlow> ok, great vlc on linux, i used that on windows
[05:27] <JoeBlow> alright
[05:27] <JoeBlow> i just want simple
[05:27] <JoeBlow> but usable
[05:27] <Kyral> basically if you love WinAmp, then you'll love XMMS and Beep
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> I still find some video files that i cant play under linux or those players.
[05:28] <JoeBlow> and vlc works with dvds normaly as well?
[05:28] <yancheng> any gnomebaker here? may i noe how to perform multisession burning for dvd?
[05:29] <Crazy_Man> JoeBlow, I haven't had much success with that...:\
[05:29] <JoeBlow> wihc version of linux is ubunti, this has like suse, debian, red hat, mandrake ect...
[05:29] <silverpower> Dr_Willis: IMO, if the person encoding the video didn't bother to use a decent format, I won't bother watching it.
[05:29] <fantomik> JoeBlow: Ubuntu is based on GNU/Debian.
[05:29] <JoeBlow> ok thnx
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> silverpower,  it seems to me more of a bug/issue with the linux vlc/mplayer - since under windows vlc plays them
[05:30] <JoeBlow> thanks for helping out so much, you guys are great, this was bar far the easiest linux to install, and operate so far
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> silverpower,  it may be they used too new/cutting edge of a coedec.. or it may be some issue in the linux players.. hard to tell.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> we are getting way to many different video format/codecs these days.
[05:31] <pozdiy> !tell me about wireless
[05:31] <pozdiy> '/msg ubotu wireless
[05:32] <mahangu> !avidemux
[05:32] <ubotu> mahangu: No idea
[05:33] <spy> hi all
[05:33] <spy> whats that win32 emulation program
[05:33] <JoeBlow> shit, installing this stuff is complex, where do i type in all this stuff?
[05:33] <oskude> spy: wine ?
[05:33] <mahangu> !transcode
[05:33] <ubotu> mahangu: I don't know
[05:33] <spy> yeah thanks
[05:33] <spy> hehe this is so sweat, im running my msn messenger, Xmms (winamp), mail, mounted my ntfs (ro ofcoursE)
[05:34] <oskude> mahangu: you could try to find those in ubuntuforums.org
[05:34] <JoeBlow> do i use this vlc 2.1.4.1. Debian stable (woody)
[05:34] <mahangu> oskude, thanks, will do
[05:34] <spy> ha yes thats the next thing for me 2 dl
[05:34] <spy> vlc
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[05:34] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[05:34] <LabThug> Anyone in here done anything with CPAN?
[05:35] <fantomik> !info linux-kernel-686
[05:35] <fantomik> (just checking ;-))
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  you dont want to be just downloading the packages.. set up your repo right. and use 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[05:35] <fantomik> !info linux-image-686
[05:35] <ubotu> linux-image-686: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[05:36] <spy> can i create a shortcut on my desktop that launches gnome-terminal using the ROOT user?
[05:36] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis how do i do that? Im sorry im lke 3 minutes into linux
[05:36] <Maelst> anyone had problems with networking after installing but not when using the Live CD?
[05:36] <silverpower> Is there a way I can modify the standard Breezy kernel .config? I'm really getting annoyed with the lack of certain kernel features not being turned on.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  the ubuntu wiki covers  adding the different repositories..
[05:36] <JoeBlow> ok thanks
[05:36] <spy> PS 'sudo apt-get install vlc --> 'sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:37] <JoeBlow> ill quit asking stupid questions
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  also check out the 'restricted formats' wiki page.
[05:37] <spy> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[05:37] <fantomik> Maelst: live cd is based on mephis (at last it was last time I checked) so it have very different startup scripts (and probably even kernel image). So it can differ.
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> same answer for SPY :P
[05:37] <thegladiator> how do i install xfce in synaptic ?
[05:37] <thegladiator> i cant see nothing called xfce as such
[05:37] <oskude> thegladiator: try "xubuntu-desktop"
[05:38] <Maelst> fantomik: it certainly does differ, one works, the other doesn't
[05:38] <fantomik> thegladiator: add universe and multiverse repositories in synaptic
[05:38] <thegladiator> it has been done already
[05:38] <thegladiator> how do i do a simulation of the same ?
[05:38] <thegladiator> to know the file size before installing ?
[05:39] <oskude> thegladiator: did you do "sudo apt-get update" after adding universe and co ?
[05:39] <thegladiator> oskude, yes...been using ub for a while
[05:39] <oskude> thegladiator: "apt-get -s ..." = simulation
[05:39] <fantomik> Maelst: yeah, as I said it inits in completly differ manner. maybe check what network card you have and then try to manually load aproperiate modules in ubuntu.
[05:39] <rene_> hi!!!
[05:39] <rene_> how is everybody here?
[05:39] <Chousuke> fine.
[05:39] <rene_> hi chousuke
[05:39] <rene_> !!
[05:39] <ubotu> ??
[05:40] <Chousuke> heh :p
[05:40] <thegladiator> thegladiator@thegladiator:~$ sudo apt-get -s xubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <thegladiator> Password:
[05:40] <thegladiator> E: Invalid operation xubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <Maelst> fantomik: yes, perhaps... was hoping for a simple solution. Like that'll be a first for me !
[05:40] <thegladiator> is it a group install ?
[05:40] <thegladiator> something like that ?
[05:40] <Chousuke> thegladiator: typo
[05:40] <Pygi> welcome people :)
[05:41] <Crazy_Man> note to self: changing grub splash screen can mess stuff up
[05:41] <thegladiator> wheres the typo ?
[05:41] <Chousuke> aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <GenghisKhan> thegladiator: sudo apt-get -s install xubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <fantomik> thegladiator: sudo apt-get -s install xubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <rene_> somebody speak spanish??
[05:41] <aedes> is the print admin tool from ubuntu? cause its annoying that its pretty much readonly
[05:41] <Chousuke> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:41] <Pygi> rene: ubuntu-es
[05:41] <thegladiator> thanks
[05:41] <gnomefreak> anyone know where i can find a .deb for anjuta1.2.4?
[05:41] <Pygi> gnomefreak: repos?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> Pygi, no
[05:41] <Pygi> gnomefreak: please do not use anjuta, thank you :)
[05:41] <gnomefreak> not in dapper
[05:41] <fantomik> aedes: sudo gnome-cups-manager # it works for me ;-)
[05:41] <oskude> thegladiator: you can use "-s" with apt-get to simulate anything it can (remove, install, etc...)
[05:41] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i like anjuta
[05:42] <thegladiator> i see
[05:42] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, Anjuta is not good :)
[05:42] <thegladiator> how much wud XFCE be ?
[05:42] <thegladiator> I will have to close down synaptic
[05:42] <rene_> ok...thanks
[05:42] <thegladiator> if i need to run the command
[05:42] <aedes> Pygi, why not?
[05:42] <thegladiator> can someone gimem a quick estimate of xubuntu-dekstop ?
[05:42] <thegladiator> file size ?
[05:42] <Pygi> aedes: cause VI is better :)
[05:42] <oskude> thegladiator: yes, you need to close synaptic for apt-get install
[05:42] <gnomefreak> aedes, its fine he just doesnt like it
[05:42] <thegladiator> anything under 100MB wud be fine
[05:42] <thegladiator> yes . its already in installation stage now
[05:43] <thegladiator> just need give a yes
[05:43] <fantomik> gnomefreak: anjuta 1.2.4 is in dapper.
[05:43] <thegladiator> is xubuntu more than 100 ?
[05:43] <Pygi> aedes: I recon that it is good to people, it's just not good for me :)
[05:43] <oskude> thegladiator: i think it will ask you if you really want to install (and shows the download size)
[05:43] <thegladiator> MB
[05:43] <thegladiator> let me try
[05:43] <gnomefreak> fantomik, unless they just added it it shouldnt be but i will look
[05:43] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: why don't you compile 2.0.1?
[05:43] <aedes> Pygi, well if that{s the case then don{t ask others not to use it, since it might work for them
[05:43] <Chousuke> it'll show the download and expanded size
[05:43] <fantomik> anjuta:
[05:43] <fantomik>   Installed: 1.2.4-1build1
[05:43] <thegladiator> 23 MB needs to be downloaded
[05:43] <fantomik> and I have dapper.
[05:44] <Pygi> aedes: heh, I was just joking :) people use what suits them, and not everybody uses the same thingy :)
[05:44] <thegladiator> so is xubuntu a distro like ubuntu /kubuntu ?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> fantomik, you didnt have to compile it?
[05:44] <Pygi> !xubuntu
[05:44] <rene_> see you....and thanks
[05:44] <ubotu> somebody said xubuntu was Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[05:44] <aedes> fantomik, that's what I'm referring to, the properties are pretty much readonly once you setup the printer
[05:44] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: why don't you compile 2.0.1?
[05:44] <fantomik> gnomefreak: nope.
[05:44] <gnomefreak> theres a bug says you need to get the tar from anjuta
[05:44] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[05:44] <gnomefreak> Pygi,anjuta2 doesnt work on dapper
[05:45] <Pygi> freaky: ah, well ...
[05:45] <thegladiator> xfce has  a good fan fare ?
[05:45] <fantomik> aedes: hmmm... maybe :-) I had only created few printes with it and doesn't needed to change anything.
[05:45] <Pygi> gladiator: what bothers you?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> xfce is a decent window manager/desktop/
[05:45] <thegladiator> Pygi, I am installing XFCE
[05:45] <fantomik> thegladiator: just google for it ;-)
[05:45] <daskog> Hello to all
[05:45] <Pygi> gladiator: go ahead then :)
[05:45] <Hendikins> Dumb question. Is there an easy way to link to a *section* of a wiki page when adding a new doc to the wiki?
[05:45] <thegladiator> yeah been googling . but nothing really tells the user base
[05:46] <gnomefreak> fantomik, what repo is it in cause its not in mine :((
[05:46] <mahangu>  i installed avidemux via a .deb file
[05:46] <thegladiator> i went to xfce site
[05:46] <mahangu> now i cant find it
[05:46] <Pygi> gladiator: it has its own preety user base :P
[05:46] <mahangu> man -f avid gives me nothing
[05:46] <fantomik>  *** 1.2.4-1build1 0
[05:46] <fantomik>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[05:46] <thegladiator> ah :p
[05:46] <Crazy_Man> there's only one thing I don't like about xubuntu
[05:46] <gnomefreak> nm i found it
[05:46] <Crazy_Man> xffm never works quite right for me
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Crazy_Man,  yea. the file manager has issues.. theres a few alternatives however
[05:47] <gnomefreak> last time i got it from repos it was 2.0 :((
[05:47] <thegladiator> a simple effective check is to go to #xfce and check how many ppl are there :) thats what i do to get an idea of popularity of something
[05:47] <fantomik> Crazy_Man: I use krusader/konqueror [with xfce]  ;-)
[05:47] <JoeBlow> so how do i run apt get?!!
[05:47] <Pygi> !apt
[05:47] <ubotu> [apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[05:47] <daskog> Is Gnome-Look.org the only place with awesome Gnome themes?
[05:47] <Pygi> sudo apt-get
[05:47] <Crazy_Man> fantomik, does it mess up the desktop?
[05:47] <mahangu> daskog, art.gnome.org
[05:47] <devil86> ciao
[05:47] <thegladiator> daskog, art.gnome.org
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> daskog,  i think freshmeat has a theme section as well
[05:47] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, what are you looking to run apt for?
[05:47] <daskog> tnx
[05:47] <thegladiator> yes even freshmeat
[05:48] <devil86> cercavo enrico
[05:48] <Crazy_Man> which is better, krusader or konqueror?
[05:48] <fantomik> Crazy_Man: I don't know, I use konq only for file browsing (I hate having icons on the desktop).
[05:48] <thegladiator> my PC looks like WIN Vista almost
[05:48] <thegladiator> very pleasin look
[05:48] <Crazy_Man> fantomik, I have no need for icons on a linux box
[05:48] <Pygi> gladiator: huh, Vista looks bad :)
[05:48] <fantomik> Crazy_Man: it depends ;-) krusader is like nice old norton commander. konq is like windows explorer.
[05:48] <Crazy_Man> alt-f2 everything ;)
[05:48] <thegladiator> nope :) thats the only thing thats good in VISTA
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Gotta love the 2 pane window managers!
[05:49] <Crazy_Man> but everything is just one bar, not two like gnome
[05:49] <Crazy_Man> (which kinda pisses me off about gnome)
[05:49] <thegladiator> well you gotta give it to them for researching and finding the best wallpaper . i am sure 10K engineers have toiled hard to find the VISTA wallpaper...its so nice
[05:50] <thegladiator> howz Xfce Crazy_Man ?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> I tend to just use a solid color... i must be a Ludite!
[05:50] <mahangu> i did dpkg -i avidemux****.deb, and now i cant find how to execute the programme. any ideas?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, where did you find it?
[05:50] <Crazy_Man> thegladiator, still instaling ubuntu-base
[05:50] <Despen> is there a swedish ubuntu channel?
[05:50] <thegladiator> the wall paper ?
[05:50] <Pygi> !sw
[05:50] <ubotu> Pygi: Are you smoking crack?
[05:50] <gnomefreak> !sw
[05:50] <Pygi> omg, ubotu, please kill urself :) thank you :)
[05:50] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, just google images for windows vista . u see a green grasss background
[05:50] <Despen> !sw
[05:51] <thegladiator> thas just amazing
[05:51] <Pygi> no, no again :/
[05:51] <thegladiator> not anymore :) then
[05:51] <gnomefreak> i thought sw was sweden
[05:51] <bshumate> sweden is se
[05:52] <Crazy_Man> http://www.plig.org/xwinman/screenshots/xfce-horen.jpg
[05:52] <Crazy_Man> I do like how they positioned the menus
[05:52] <iKst> hello
[05:52] <thegladiator> very nice . but XP look is dull i guess
[05:53] <JoeBlow> im stil not sure where i type in apt get
[05:53] <thegladiator> brb
[05:53] <gnomefreak> fantomik, can you open anjuta please in dapper let me know if it opens please
[05:53] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, what are you looking to do?
[05:53] <fantomik> JoeBlow: just use synaptic -- it is a graphical frontend to apt.
[05:53] <iKst> i have a problem with installing ubuntu on powerbook g3. Installation process goes by without errors, but when i try to log in i only hear gnome chimes but there is no desktop
[05:53] <iKst> only mouse pointer
[05:53] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install <package>   sudo apt-get remove <package>
[05:53] <JoeBlow> synaptic isnt letting me install VLC
[05:54] <gnomefreak> !info vlc
[05:54] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[05:54] <Despen> !se
[05:54] <ubotu> Despen: What?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, do you have universe repo enabled?
[05:54] <JoeBlow> i dunno, i just started linux, im like 10 minutes into it
[05:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell JoeBlow about repos
[05:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell JoeBlow about sources
[05:55] <spy> hey um so does any1 know the console command for run as user?
[05:55] <Kyral> su
[05:55] <Kyral> wait what user
[05:55] <spy> root
[05:55] <GenghisKhan> spy: su user
[05:55] <gnomefreak> sudo -i
[05:55] <LFA> hi all
[05:55] <spy> i want to create a shortcut on the desktop that boots into terminal with root permissions
[05:56] <Kyral> isnt there a Root Terminal option
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Kyral,  i thought i saw one on the live cd.
[05:56] <gnomefreak> if he enables it there is
[05:56] <gnomefreak> its hidden by default
[05:56] <spy> mm, dont know, at the moment i go.. APPS--->SYSTEM-->RUN AS USER-->gnome-terminal
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Oh yea. the 'terminal sessions"  option
[05:56] <gnomefreak> spy,  go into your menu editer and look under system tools put a chek where you see root terminal
[05:57] <gnomefreak> chek/check
[05:58] <spy> okay thats system-->Administration-->??
[05:58] <rod> anyone experience with getting the nvidia-glx-legacy to work?
[05:58] <rod> mine fails during modprobe
[05:58] <rod> FATAL: Error inserting nvidia (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko): No such device
[05:58] <rod> although nvidia.ko is on that location
[05:59] <C-O-L-T> I need a download manager for linux which after finishing the download shuts down my computer
[05:59] <Ng> rod: are you sure you have one of the legacy cards?
[05:59] <Pygi> colt: modify wget :)
[05:59] <Pygi> !wget
[05:59] <ubotu> Pygi: I give up, what is it?
[05:59] <Crazy_Man> can some tell me the lines I need to add to souces.list for the plf repos?
[05:59] <xbox_sky> Hey Evryone! for some reason I can't access my dvd-r, it gives me an error "unable to mount" device is write protected, how do I get past that error? im trying to make a backup of my already burned data cd (UDF)
[05:59] <rod> Ng,  nVidia Corporation NV10 [GeForce 256 SDR is what i use (lspci) and that's a gforce 1 card
[05:59] <JoeBlow> ok thanks guys that worked great
[05:59] <ooPo> Ahoy! I installed kdevelop3 on breezy, went to project->new project->C->Simple Hello world program, hit F9 to run it... and it wants to use visualboyadvance to run it. Strange!
[06:00] <C-O-L-T> I need a download manager for linux which after finishing the download shuts down my computer
[06:00] <Pygi> COLT: modify wget :)
[06:00] <Ng> rod: hmm, is that not in the non-legacy driver?
[06:00] <C-O-L-T> Pygi: I have kget. How please say to me
[06:00] <fantomik> gnomefreak: yeah. it doesn't I'll try to strace/ltrace/gdb it a little.
[06:01] <spy> ah this ubuntu is so cool... hehe i have vlc to working condition hehe... movies yippeee
[06:01] <pozdiy> got Netgear WG311 card under breezy, anybody knows how to check if system sees it?
[06:01] <fbockstael> does someone know how to install jre
[06:01] <Pygi> COLT: go into source code, and modify it :)
[06:01] <Pygi> !java
[06:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:01] <Pygi> !javadebs
[06:01] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[06:01] <xbox_sky> yeah but having DD5.1 is hard in VLC/linux
[06:01] <rodentfiftysix> hey, i am trying to get dvds to play in totem movie player... It will not let me play them. It says I may need to install the right plugins, where can I get them and how do I install them?
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ty fantomik it says to install it 1.2.4 from anjuta.com in the bugs im searching bugs for a different fix
[06:02] <rod> everything from gforce 2 and earlier is in legacy according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:02] <rod> Ng,
[06:02] <fbockstael> ill have a look
[06:02] <Pygi> !dvd
[06:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:02] <spy> hey thanks for ur help guys
[06:02] <Ng> rod: ah, that's quite strange. I'm not sure, to be honest, but it might be worth trying the regular nvidia driver package too
[06:02] <yancheng> my linux completely no sound. either mplayer, xmms.... wat thing i need to start to trouble shoot?
[06:02] <rod> Ng, i tried the normal glx package, but it gave the same error
[06:02] <Pygi> !restricted
[06:03] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:03] <Pygi> yancheng: read ubotu
[06:03] <Pygi> !FreeFormats
[06:03] <ubotu> somebody said freeformats was There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[06:03] <rod> Ng, I know how to install nvidia drivers... done it on about 4 systems before without a hitch... It's just this computer
[06:03] <Ng> rod: that sounds like a bug in the driver then, it's not detecting your card
[06:03] <rod> Ng, the nv driver works just fine though (except for the opengl of course)
[06:04] <yancheng> Pygi: u mean type command "read ubotu"?
[06:04] <Pygi> yancheng: no, just read what ubotu told you :P
[06:04] <yancheng> wat is ubotu? the brother of ubuntu?
[06:04] <spy> has any1 goten wine to work for playing starcraft?
[06:04] <Pygi> !ubotu
[06:04] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[06:04] <oskude> Pygi: i think you wanted to answer to someone else ?
[06:05] <nandasunu> I have a really simple/dumb question
[06:05] <Pygi> oskude: huh, on what question? :)
[06:05] <oskude> yancheng: had problems with "no sound", not audio formats
[06:05] <tbw> Anything I can do to make DVD playback not suck?
[06:05] <CodenameKT> spy I am pretty sure it is playable under ubuntu
[06:05] <oskude> yancheng: had problems with "no sound", not audio formats Pygi
[06:06] <spy> okay so under SPM which package do i choose?
[06:06] <spy> winesetuptk?
[06:06] <gnomefreak> why would they remove a bug if its not fixed :((
[06:07] <CodenameKT> spy. no u use apt-get wine
[06:07] <oskude> yancheng: to start, you could look where your soundcard/chip is connected (isa,pci,usb), what chip it has...
[06:07] <CodenameKT> spy. winesetuptk is a setup util if u would like to use
[06:07] <spy> oh thanks
[06:08] <CodenameKT> spy. the description is in the header
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> morning
[06:08] <greenpenguin13> afternoon
[06:09] <oskude> evening...
[06:09] <spy> what comes before apt-get?
[06:10] <tbw> !dvd
[06:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:10] <gnomefreak> spy sudo
[06:10] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get blah blah blah
[06:11] <spy> yeah but u need to go sudo apt-get "some command" wine
[06:11] <spy> install works for me :-)
[06:11] <thegladiator> any XFCE users can help me ? we will talk private
[06:12] <spy> how do i remove a folder? in console, rm doesnt work it says the object is a folder
[06:12] <Ng> spy: rm -r for folders, or rmdir
[06:12] <BlueEagle> spy: rmdir
[06:12] <spy> ty
[06:12] <gnomefreak> ok found the fix but make spits out errors gonna look into this again i think
[06:12] <BlueEagle> spy: if the folder is not empty you need to rm -r
[06:12] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[06:13] <BlueEagle> c-o-l-t: so?
[06:13] <spy> okay thanks.. rmdir workek (cause the folder was empty) but ill remember that
[06:13] <xbox_sky> UDF disks are not just a problem fo Linux. Not all disks written on one windows box will be usable on another windows box
[06:13] <xbox_sky> OMG
[06:13] <xbox_sky> that's just....
[06:13] <greg__> !usb
[06:13] <ubotu> greg__: What?
[06:13] <BlueEagle> xbox_sky: a bad standard?
[06:13] <xbox_sky> it doesn't make any sense at all
[06:13] <DayTurnsNight> !ace
[06:13] <ubotu> DayTurnsNight: I haven't a clue
[06:14] <greg__> !usb key
[06:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, greg__
[06:14] <greg__> ubotu listvals
[06:14] <xbox_sky> blue, nah UDF is bootable in EVRY OS on earth that's why a lot of people use it as a backup alternative
[06:14] <xbox_sky> Universal Disc Format
[06:14] <xbox_sky> my dvd will play it, xbox, windows,unix etc
[06:14] <xbox_sky> except linux
[06:14] <greg__> !windowsmbr
[06:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsmbr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:15] <gnomefreak> doesnt source forge have .debs?
[06:15] <kino-tak> hi gentlemen, anybody uses h323 client for ubuntu
[06:15] <xbrucex> dvd+rw-tools, in specifc growisofs has been giving me headaches up the wall, so far i've burned three coasters with my PIONEER DVR-110D ...i think this is just too new and barely supported...ugh
[06:15] <spy> fat chance of getting Visual Studio 2005 to work on linux?
[06:16] <Raven^> hello, I'm a new user
[06:16] <BlueEagle> Hello new user raven^.
[06:16] <Raven^> I'm trying to set up a ftp server on here,
[06:16] <kino-tak> hi raven
[06:16] <Raven^> and i've tried to follow the directions but i've had several problems with it
[06:16] <BlueEagle> raven^: install proftpd and read the manual. :)
[06:16] <Raven^> hey everyone
[06:16] <daskog> Does Ubuntu 5.10 x86-64 Support my AMD X2 4400? or is a kernel update needed?
[06:16] <kino-tak> I have a vert good site that could help you
[06:16] <CodenameKT> anyone know how to use fuse for mounting ftps?
[06:17] <Raven^> whats the site kino-tak?
[06:17] <BlueEagle> raven^: Either that or start with your 1st problem and take it from there.
[06:17] <gnomefreak> fantomik, the fix is in 1.2.4a im guessing its a patched version im gonna try compiling it again
[06:17] <GenghisKhan> daskog: it should
[06:17] <fantomik> gnomefreak: ok.
[06:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: If it boots, it's probably not a kernel problem...
[06:17] <BlueEagle> kino-tak: give him tubgirl. :)
[06:18] <euler> Is there a corresponding log file that reports which modules loaded and failed on boot? and if so, where is it?
[06:18] <daskog> Ok. just making sure. I read to much =P
[06:18] <kino-tak> raven, check this site : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588
[06:18] <gnomefreak> fantomik, if it works thins tim ei will let you know
[06:18] <mahangu> what is aclocal1.8
[06:18] <fantomik> euler: you can read 'dmesg' for error messageg from modules.
[06:18] <kino-tak> I did it, and It works, I only have problem with the user account
[06:18] <BlueEagle> !proftpd
[06:18] <ubotu> BlueEagle: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:18] <fantomik> gnomefreak: thx.
[06:18] <gnomefreak> np
[06:19] <euler> fantomik: thanks.
[06:19] <dax_> how can i get javac-command working? i have installed jdk.
[06:19] <gnomefreak> i really hate this download box bug :((
[06:19] <kino-tak> raven : it works with proftpd and gives you a lot of good advices and a configure
[06:19] <Raven^> thanks, I'm reading it now :)
[06:19] <slibs> can you guys help me a bit with "make" i get this error when running http://pastebin.com/488878
[06:19] <gnomefreak> !info javac
[06:19] <dax_> thanks
[06:20] <kino-tak> you are welcome, let  me know if you have problems with the users created following the istructions (I had, we can check them out togheter)
[06:20] <gnomefreak> dax_, i saw a javac in the repos but what repo it is in is beyond me
[06:20] <kino-tak> gnomefreak....you see, I'm contributing to the channel after only 1 week following ubuntu installation
[06:20] <kino-tak> I'm very proud of myself!!!
[06:21] <gnomefreak> kino-tak, good job
[06:21] <kino-tak> ;-)
[06:21] <dax_> gnomefreak,  ok
[06:21] <MastherOnix> hi
[06:21] <trappist> woah, ntfs write support in 2.6.15
[06:22] <mahangu> trappist, really?
[06:22] <slibs> trappist: it's something for "little files" or something
[06:22] <mahangu> wow
[06:22] <slibs> i was fired up too when i first saw that
[06:22] <oskude> trappist: only for modifying existing files
[06:22] <trappist> slibs: no, it doesn't handle highly fragmented files, and it can't create new 'sparse' files, but otherwise it's fully supported
[06:22] <thegladiator> considering stability issues with gnome , i am going to try kde as well
[06:22] <thegladiator> gnome uses more memory than kde ?
[06:23] <trappist> oskude: no, that's how it's been up until now.  2.6.15 just came out late last night.
[06:23] <slibs> well what ever, it's not really something you can call write support, but it sure is better than what it was before
[06:23] <trappist> oskude: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.15
[06:23] <thegladiator> are there ppl here who use kde ? and not kubuntu as such ?
[06:23] <thegladiator> installed kde on ubuntu ?
[06:24] <antdengineer> is it ok to turn off paranoia in sound juicer?
[06:24] <GenghisKhan> thegladiator: more or less the same. welcome to the flame
[06:24] <antdengineer> my ripping is sooo slow!
[06:24] <fantomik> thegladiator: I'm using some parts of kde ;-) [eg. konqueror] 
[06:24] <thegladiator> :)
[06:24] <SatanLvsU2> gdm or kdm?
[06:24] <GenghisKhan> thegladiator: yes, i use kde
[06:24] <oskude> well, my source (heise.de) says making new files or deleting files isnt implemented...
[06:24] <Raven^> ok, i have run into one problem
[06:24] <thegladiator> ah did you configure gnome to discard nautilus ?
[06:24] <SatanLvsU2> anyone else?
[06:25] <Raven^> which might be the real issue to why im having this
[06:25] <antdengineer> and turinign on hparm doesnt do anything
[06:25] <SatanLvsU2> going once...
[06:25] <thegladiator> gdm , thinking of swticking to kdm
[06:25] <SatanLvsU2> thats two votes
[06:25] <Raven^> sudo apt-get install proftpd i use that command
[06:25] <SatanLvsU2> tie breaker anyone?
[06:25] <Raven^> and it tells me to run apt-get update and i do
[06:25] <Prozac> is there a way to restore the original bar in the top?
[06:25] <Raven^> but then it tells me to run it again after i hit update
[06:26] <thegladiator> lets not have a flame war , but GenghisKhan , did you switch over stability uses or pure artistic reasons ?
[06:26] <CodenameKT> anybody running gmailfs currently?
[06:26] <oskude> trappist: could you copy me the line where they say making new files or deleting new files on ntfs are now supported ?
[06:26] <antdengineer> please!, someone must rip cds here
[06:26] <thegladiator> uses->issues*
[06:26] <Estel|uk> yes they do antdengineer, but I'm not sure what the answer is
[06:27] <thegladiator> gnome has been a mem hog . not to blame gnome but my mem , 256 MB RAM
[06:27] <GenghisKhan> thegladiator: didn't switch. i have use kde my whole life. i tried gnome but i didn't get used to the apps
[06:27] <trappist> oskude: search for 98b270362bb9ea6629732e7f5b65b8a6ce4743c7
[06:27] <thegladiator> ah
[06:28] <antdengineer> i just dont know if turning off cdparanoia matters, because it doubles my ripping speed
[06:28] <trappist> antdengineer: what do you mean by 'turning on hdparm'?
[06:28] <thegladiator> i am checking if my 256 MB RAM is causing the instability issue or the dektop
[06:28] <antdengineer> not sure what it is but in the forums people said it could help
[06:28] <antdengineer> it didnt
[06:28] <trappist> antdengineer: ripping is two steps - copying the audio off the cd, and encoding - which part is slow?
[06:28] <sambagirl> anyone know of a game oriented linux distribution for someone who wants linux version for gaming and the such?
[06:28] <antdengineer> ripping
[06:29] <trappist> antdengineer: maybe I forgot to mention, ripping is two steps.  which is slow, copying or encoding.
[06:29] <Pegasos989> How do I change maxium stack size of pthreads?
[06:29] <kemik> sambagirl:  nope
[06:29] <Raven^> is there a port that needs to be opened specially for apt-get update?
[06:29] <kemik> sambagirl:  do you mean like "play windows games"?
[06:29] <antdengineer> copying
[06:29] <Pegasos989> Raven^, no, but you need to add reposotories
[06:30] <thegladiator> sambagirl, lady try out http://distrowatch.com
[06:30] <antdengineer> 1.8X or so
[06:30] <trappist> antdengineer: what does `sudo hdparm -d /dev/<device>` say, where device is your cdrom
[06:30] <sambagirl> ok thanks
[06:30] <antdengineer> when i turn it using -d1 it all says on if not it all says off
[06:31] <CioN> hey all i need to remove a package with apt-get but it won't uninstall, anyone can help me?
[06:31] <oskude> trappist: i can only read "files can now be extended using the normal write(2) code path." (no mention of making new files, but if your 100% sure it works, ok...)
[06:31] <antdengineer> maybe im activating it wrond
[06:31] <antdengineer> *wrong
[06:32] <OneSeventeen> Is "Secure FTP" (SFTP) really just SSH-based file transfer?
[06:32] <oskude> trappist: and if you can "talk" german, please report it to heise.de :) (as they say its not possible)
[06:32] <antdengineer> trappist: when i turn it using -d1 it all says on if not it all says off
[06:32] <Pegasos989> CioN, does it not unistall through synaptic package manager either?
[06:32] <CarlFK> OneSeventeen: "yes"  but no... ;)
[06:32] <antdengineer> trappist: maybe im activating it wrong
[06:33] <daskog> What linux distroe would you recomend for a LAptop? specs P3 833Mhz, 256mb ram. i whant it to be faster than windows xp Lol...
[06:33] <CioN> Pegasos989 no
[06:33] <trappist> oskude: making new files is still problematic
[06:33] <CioN> Pegasos989 i'ts a bad package
[06:33] <thegladiator> when can we expect drapper ?
[06:33] <thegladiator> stable
[06:33] <trappist> antdengineer: -d1 is correct
[06:33] <CarlFK> daskog: Ubuntu
[06:33] <CioN> Pegasos989 I need to remove it by force
[06:33] <OneSeventeen> CarlFK: at work I use dreamweaver, and at home I use "secure telenet and FTP", and I just want to make sure I can uninstall vsftpd without loosing the ability to transfer files
[06:33] <Raven^> (gedit:6582): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[06:33] <Raven^> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[06:33] <antdengineer> trappist: is paranoia needed in juicer?
[06:33] <Raven^> whats that mean
[06:33] <daskog> i tried Ubuntu on it, but it was slow! slower than windows XP
[06:34] <gnomefreak> a tar is the full app always right? like they wouldnt just put a patch in a tar?
[06:34] <trappist> antdengineer: I dunno, I've never used juicer, but I imagine it supports more than one ripping engine
[06:34] <antdengineer> what do u use?
[06:34] <CarlFK> OneSeventeen: I 'think' you need an sftp server.  but if all you have is sshd and ftpd, then I 'know' you can dump the ftpd
[06:35] <trappist> antdengineer: grip or abcde
[06:35] <sorush20> I have Benq, keyboard how do I get the extra function buttons to work on the ubuntu?
[06:35] <Ng> pretty much every openssh server supports sftp out of the box
[06:35] <Ng> it rocks
[06:35] <cvt|gnuyear> How do I remove the password protection in bios in order to install ubuntu?
[06:35] <antdengineer> trappist: do u know anything about paranoia with ripping
[06:35] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, open the box and cap the jumper for your bios reset
[06:36] <Ng> erk
[06:36] <CarlFK> ah - then never mind my "sftp server" - friend told me thats what he had setup, but maybe he just meant "im using sshd now"
[06:36] <Ng> you might want to not do that ;)
[06:36] <trappist> OneSeventeen: unfortunately there's some confusion about "secure ftp".  it's probably referring to ftp with an ssl wrapper, which is not what openssh's sftp is
[06:36] <Raven^> might i ask if someone can pm me for a lil help?
[06:36] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, you'll need to look for which jumper it is in your user manual
[06:36] <GenghisKhan> cvt|gnuyear: you can also remove the clock battery and let the bios reset
[06:36] <trappist> antdengineer: not much, but I do know that if dma is not enabled on your drive, things are going to be slow.
[06:37] <noddaba> I'm looking for an editor that can 1.) fold functions, and 2.) print the file with these folds in.  I've found plenty of editors that can do 1.) but none far that can do 2.).  What I'm trying to do is get an "index" or "table of contents" of functions in a class, to make code reviews go smoother.
[06:37] <mahangu> need to record .mpeg to a vcd, any suggested tools?
[06:37] <noddaba> anyone have any suggestions?  I've tried Bluefish, Anjuta, Eclipse, and a few others
[06:38] <trappist> noddaba: I don't think vim prints folded blocks out of the box, but it's plenty extensible enough to be convinced to do it
[06:38] <CarlFK> daskog: you may need to mess with video drivers - that can make the box seem much faster, even though it takes the same amount of time to do the same task
[06:38] <CioN> how do i forcefuly uninstall a package?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> noddaba, try vim or emacs?
[06:38] <Seveas> CioN, dpkg --force-something -P $package
[06:38] <Seveas> for legal values of 'something' -> man dpkg
[06:38] <noddaba> trappist, yeah, I'm having trouble with gvim.  I'm trying to get it to use gtklp so I can do two up per page, but I'm having trouble setting the 'printexpr' command
[06:38] <CioN> Seveas can u be more specific i'm noob
[06:39] <CarlFK> daskog: but how fast it "seems" is pretty important - people get edgy  if it seems slow
[06:39] <casa> holaa?
[06:39] <daskog> CarlFK, This old laptop i have uses a Bad S3 graphics chip
[06:39] <Seveas> CioN, read the manpage, it lists all options
[06:39] <Seveas> hi casa
[06:39] <noddaba> gnomefreak, vim yes.  emacs no.  Don't know it well enough :-/
[06:39] <trappist> noddaba: never got much into vim printing myself, but #vim is full of helpful people
[06:39] <CioN> Seveas of dpkg?
[06:39] <Seveas> CioN, yes
[06:40] <CioN> Seveas ok thx
[06:40] <daskog> CarlFK, I just whant a fast distroe for this old Laptop so it can be usefull again
[06:40] <gnomefreak> i really wish they would implement this patch in repos :( or updates even
[06:40] <SatanLvsU2> brb
[06:41] <trappist> daskog: one distro is about as fast as another - what you're looking for is a fast desktop, maybe fluxbox or wmaker.
[06:41] <mahangu> or xfce
[06:41] <trappist> or xfce
[06:41] <gnomefreak> i might have just spoke too soon lol my updater just came on
[06:41] <CarlFK> daskog: my GF uses ubuntu on a P3-800, no special video drivers.  it isn't as spiffy as my P4, but it isn't that bad either.
[06:41] <fantomik> or BeOS (if it is an old laptop) ;P
[06:42] <CarlFK> daskog: you can also install other window managers like flukebox, icebox? , ratpoisen, etc...  that will be more spunky than gnome
[06:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> twm
[06:42] <trappist> CarlFK: I don't think you spelled any of those right :)
[06:43] <trappist> CarlFK: flukebox=fluxbox, icebox=icewm, ratpoisen=ratpoison
[06:43] <CarlFK> trappist: very likely - I was just explaining to a friend why I am such a poor spelle ;)
[06:43] <CarlFK> lol
[06:43] <Manifold> How do I install a .jar file, guys?
[06:43] <CarlFK> wow.
[06:43] <trappist> Manifold: java -jar filename.jar
[06:44] <fantomik> Manifold: jar files are not installable (mostly ;-))
[06:44] <trappist> Manifold: that assumes a properly installed java vm
[06:44] <damnhil> HOW do I enable/disable init services?
[06:45] <fantomik> man update-rc.d
[06:45] <trappist> daskog: sudo update-rc.d -f servicename remove
[06:45] <trappist> or that
[06:45] <gnomefreak> what is smart-update?
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rm -rf /init      (not really)
[06:45] <spy> ish
[06:45] <Manifold> How do I install a java vm, trappist?
[06:45] <spy> i ran wine "c:\starcraft\stacraft.exe" and it crashed but now my desktop is in 640*480
[06:45] <spy> hehe
[06:45] <Prozac> How can i get the original panel
[06:45] <Prozac> panel/bar in the top back?
[06:46] <trappist> !tell Manifold about java
[06:46] <fantomik> Prozac: ctrl+alt+-
[06:46] <yaaar> anybody have a minute to look at a really weird problem with autoloading dvd's? short description here: http://pastebin.com/488914
[06:46] <Manifold> !java
[06:46] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:46] <spy> how can i force my refresh rate to 85hz?
[06:46] <polpak> spy, ctrl,alt,+
[06:46] <adamh> When I click "Applications" the menu shows up then disappears immediately. I've seen this on both my Ubuntu computers (Dapper). Anybody know how to fix it?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> spy,  :) try that gnome-change res thing.. and switch it to some other res then back. to get the size back
[06:46] <trappist> spy: the + on your numpad
[06:46] <gnomefreak> adamh, run sudo apt-get install menu
[06:46] <Prozac> thanks fantomik
[06:46] <gnomefreak> its a known issue with dapper
[06:46] <Thiago> kjzshduiashdasd
[06:47] <adamh> gnomefreak: Woo, thank you!
[06:47] <adamh> I should've come here and asked weeks ago :P
[06:47] <Crazy_Man> How do I install a window manager theme in xfce?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> adamh, it happens right after kubuntu-desktop install
[06:47] <adamh> gnomefreak: Anyway, thanks again :)
[06:47] <gnomefreak> adamh, not a problem
[06:48] <spy> ctrl+alt+ "+" is like a global zoom
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> spy,  now try alt-ctrl numpad -
[06:49] <hikenboot> how do i enable root username for use with xfce?
[06:49] <hikenboot> i changed the root password
[06:49] <trappist> hikenboot: you don't
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> you mean you set a root user password?
[06:49] <hikenboot> need to have a gui printer installer that requires it
[06:49] <hikenboot> i have set the root password
[06:49] <trappist> hikenboot: you launch your gui printer installer via sudo
[06:50] <hikenboot> no longer a problem the directions i found said to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[06:50] <hikenboot> but i am not using kde
[06:50] <hikenboot> using xfce
[06:50] <Maniqui> hi. Ubuntu is hanging up on boot. It hangs up afther the line that reads: "Syncronizing time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org..... [OK] "  (or something similiar)
[06:50] <Maniqui> it used to work few weeks ago.
[06:50] <alexissoft> hi
[06:50] <OneSeventeen> I have winSCP, dreamweaver MX 2004, and all the standard linux-based ssh clients, and I just ran /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop and all my "Secure FTP" stuff still works, is there any reason I should keep vsftpd?
[06:51] <mahangu> VCD burning software, ayone?
[06:51] <OneSeventeen> (I am about to remove vsftpd via apt-get and just want to make sure it won't impact file transfer via SSH)
[06:51] <GNULinuxer> mahangu: vcdimager
[06:51] <trappist> mahangu: there's a vcdtools package
[06:51] <trappist> and that
[06:51] <fantomik> OneSeventeen: it won't.
[06:52] <GenghisKhan> OneSeventeen: no if you don't use regular ftp
[06:52] <rob> #ubuntu-nl
[06:52] <OneSeventeen> cool, I was using regular FTP until I realized you could use ssh for file transfer in dreamweaver (it's what the rest of my team uses)
[06:53] <OneSeventeen> so I should just have to run: apt-get remove vsftpd correct?
[06:53] <mahangu> trappist, vcdtools is a GUI?
[06:53] <OneSeventeen> (as root)
[06:53] <mahangu> OneSeventeen, as sudo, yes
[06:53] <trappist> mahangu: I don't think so
[06:53] <mahangu> trappist, is there a gui one?
[06:53] <mahangu> i have k3b, but it wont open
[06:54] <OneSeventeen> nice, it works great now, with no FTP server running!  (that's one less hole!)
[06:56] <trappist> bleh.  apt-get remove dbus results in sudo telling me "sudo: unable to lookup grasshopper via gethostbyname()"
[06:56] <trappist> grasshopper of course being my hostname.
[06:57] <sethk> trappist, add grasshopper to your hosts file and make sure hosts is there for dns in nsswitch.conf
[06:58] <trappist> sethk: neat trick without sudo
[06:58] <_NautiluS_> bjour
[06:58] <MrFaber> hi
[06:58] <MrFaber> Has anyone experiences with touchpads and scrolling with two fingers like Mac OS?
[06:58] <_NautiluS_> Bonne anne a Tous et toutes
[06:58] <sethk> trappist, not really, just do su to get this problem fixed
[06:58] <_NautiluS_> ptite question ?
[06:58] <trappist> sethk: neat trick without a root password :)
[06:59] <_NautiluS_> jai downloader ubuntu cd install
[06:59] <daskog> trappist, sudo update-rc.d -f servicename remove <- what does this do?
[06:59] <sethk> trappist, set the root password
[06:59] <_NautiluS_> ya pas de fichier BOOT ?
[06:59] <trappist> sethk: without sudo?
[06:59] <sethk> trappist, using a rescue boot
[06:59] <_NautiluS_> sa marche comment
[06:59] <trappist> bleh.
[06:59] <_NautiluS_> ???
[06:59] <_NautiluS_> :)
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ok i now feel like the stupidest man on earth :((
[06:59] <sethk> trappist, bleh?  that's what you have to do.  just do it
[07:00] <gnomefreak> ive been trying to cd into a tar for the last 20 mins than just now relixed i have to unpack it first :((
[07:00] <trappist> sethk: I'm just pissed because it was caused by uninstalling something without which all this should still work
[07:00] <sethk> trappist, oh, I agree, but still, now you have to fix it
[07:00] <trappist> gnomefreak: yeah, tarballs are not directories ;)
[07:00] <spy> now that is unfortunate gnoefrak
[07:00] <gnomefreak> trappist, i remember now lol
[07:01] <gnomefreak> is it possible to find out if they will implement the patch for anjuta in dapper?
[07:02] <yaaar> anybody have a minute to look at a really weird problem with autoloading dvd's? short description here: http://pastebin.com/488914
[07:03] <Ng> gnomefreak: if you want a patch in, contact the ubuntu maintainer, or file a bug
[07:03] <gnomefreak> the bug has been filed their fix is to get the 1.2.4a tar
[07:03] <trappist> yaaar: try changing the filesystem in /etc/fstab to 'auto'
[07:04] <yaaar> trappist: k one sec
[07:04] <trappist> bbiab, looks like I hafta reboot.
[07:04] <dueyfinster> I am trying to do a list of Ubuntu progs similar to Win (in hope people will see they can change). Can anyone give me good resources or help editing?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> hb
[07:04] <yaaar> trappist: do i need to reboot also?
[07:05] <dueyfinster> I am trying to do a list of Ubuntu progs similar to Win (in hope people will see they can change). Can anyone give me good resources or help editing?  http://ubuntu-ie.org/Wiki/Alternatives/Windows
[07:05] <dueyfinster> Sorry forgot link
[07:05] <sas171> hi, I have some problems with my Kubuntu 5.10 on boot time. It stop booting while Battery state checking... I installed Kubuntu 10 minutes ago and changed only pppoeconf and xorg.conf... at the first boot time all was right. some ideas?
[07:07] <gnomefreak> dueyfinster, win users can get x-chat for free now
[07:07] <spy> is there an alternative to wine?
[07:07] <polpak> spy, lol
[07:07] <spy> im having a headache with wine
[07:07] <gnomefreak> yes windows
[07:07] <sas171> spy: cross-over office =)
[07:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:07] <polpak> spy, oh, I see what you mean
[07:07] <polpak> spy, I thought you were looking for a windows alternative to wine
[07:07] <dueyfinster> gnomefreak: Some articles contain outdated sources, thats why I need help.
[07:07] <polpak> spy, are you using the latest release from winehq?
[07:08] <sas171> spy: try wine-tools
[07:08] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu
[07:08] <ubotu> [ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[07:08] <emanuelez> hello! any easy way to install skype?
[07:08] <polpak> !skype
[07:08] <ubotu> well, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:08] <zadok2k> anybody know where I can find wine .9.3
[07:08] <dueyfinster> !wine
[07:08] <jocke1s> Hi all, I need help with fstab. Why is this not working?
[07:08] <jocke1s> sudo fdisk -l | grep hdb[12] 
[07:08] <jocke1s> /dev/hdb1               1        1275    10241406    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[07:08] <jocke1s> /dev/hdb2            1276        4983    29784510   83  Linux
[07:08] <jocke1s> cat /etc/fstab | tail -2
[07:08] <jocke1s> /media/XP       /dev/hdb1       vfat   rw,user,noauto  0       0
[07:08] <jocke1s> /media/EXTRA    /dev/hdb2       reiserfs rw,user,noauto  0       0
[07:08] <dueyfinster>  wine is probably a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[07:09] <gnomefreak> jocke1s, DO NOT paste in here use pastebin
[07:09] <zadok2k> new version crashes my app
[07:09] <jocke1s> gnomefreak: oops. What is pastebin?
[07:09] <Hendikins> Just a quick question. Did I do a decent wikification of my existing material in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins ?
[07:09] <polpak> !wine
[07:10] <gnomefreak> jocke1s, type /topic and read it
[07:10] <jocke1s> ok
[07:10] <gnomefreak> dueyfinster, there was a page that kind of the same thing you are doing i just cant remember the site
[07:10] <Pygi> Hendikins: will go look now
[07:11] <Hendikins> http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html is the existing doc that was wikified
[07:11] <fam1> is it possible to install a bot like gnomefreak on a private channel ?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> fam1, im not a bot :((
[07:11] <fam1> :)
[07:11] <MastherOnix> alop
[07:11] <sas171> =)
[07:12] <dueyfinster> gnomefreak, tell me if you do, it will come in handy
[07:12] <gnomefreak> and yes i can be installed on any channel :))
[07:12] <fam1> hehe
[07:12] <sas171> so no ideas about my boot problem, should i reinstall kubuntu?
[07:12] <Pygi> Hendikins: good, but real player and all these thingies are not exactly firefox plugins :/ Indeed, they are mostly stand alone thingies :/
[07:12] <MastherOnix> alguen habla espaol
[07:12] <MastherOnix> ?????????????????
[07:12] <gnomefreak> !es
[07:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:12] <Hendikins> Pygi: then what are nppdf.so, nphelix.so, etc?
[07:12] <spy> mm i did  "sudo apt-get install wine" , "winecfg" and then its suppose to work
[07:12] <spy> and it actually did with a basic app
[07:12] <jocke1s> gnomefreak: That points me to paste.ubuntu-nl.org which wont load
[07:12] <fam1> lemme rephase... is it possible to install a bot like ubotu on a private channel ?
[07:12] <spy> next i tried to run starcaft
[07:13] <spy> and now it wont even launch basic apps
[07:13] <MastherOnix> aloooooooooooooooooo
[07:13] <gnomefreak> jocke1s,  it should load its been working all day
[07:13] <gnomefreak> jocke1s,  if it wont load join #flood
[07:13] <Pygi> Hendikins: ah, skipped :/
[07:13] <Pygi> Hendikins: looks fine :)
[07:14] <Hendikins> Pygi: I've been maintaining the docs on the Mozilla end for 3 years, I view this as an extension thereof.
[07:14] <MastherOnix> pliss
[07:14] <MastherOnix> spanish
[07:14] <mwe> spy: next time use winetools. it lets you install and uninstall programs easily
[07:15] <mwe> spy: now you probably have to remove /home/spy/.wine the run wincfg again to get it up
[07:15] <spy> okay thanks
[07:15] <mwe> spy: or at least move .wine out of the way to let it create a new one
[07:15] <Pygi> lotusleaf: ping
[07:15] <Hendikins> Pygi: I went looking through the wiki and elsewhere, and there wasn't a "this is how you install Firefox" plugins document. I found the information to be scattered at best.
[07:16] <polpak> spy, I would suggest getting the latest wine release from winehq  (using the winehq repo) and also using winetools to configure the base system and make a backup
[07:16] <Pygi> yup, it is scattered :/
[07:16] <Pygi> !wine
[07:16] <Pygi> ubotu, why have you pmed me? don't you know you are supposed to say that in public :P
[07:16] <ubotu> Pygi: what are you talking about?
[07:17] <Pygi> ajmitch: ping, ubotu freaked out :)
[07:17] <textshell> i'm looking for documentation or at least a short description for the repository breezy-updates, any pointers?
[07:17] <polpak> Pygi, I think someone set up the wine response to reply directly. Annoying though
[07:18] <Pygi> polpak:huh, yes, annoying :/
[07:18] <sas171> one more time: I have some problems with my Kubuntu 5.10 on boot time. It stop booting while Battery state checking... I installed Kubuntu 10 minutes ago and changed only pppoeconf and xorg.conf... at the first boot time all was right. some ideas?
[07:18] <Pygi> battery problems?
[07:18] <sas171> i have actually a desktop pc, so no battery at all
[07:19] <textshell> sas171: I don't really know what might be wrong, but you could try to boot the system with acpi=off as parameter.
[07:19] <E-Xtremia> Hello room... I am looking for some assistance with my gnome-pannel in Ubuntu Breezy if anyone can help
[07:19] <spy> winetools says i need dcom98.exe
[07:20] <sas171> textshell: how to do it
[07:20] <polpak> spy, it certainly suggests installing it, as many programs will try to use it. It also suggests installing IE6
[07:20] <mikul> hi, is there any free versions of crossover office? or is there any program like it for free?
[07:20] <textshell> E-Xtremia: what's your problem with the panel?
[07:20] <E-Xtremia> When I first installed ubuntu, I could change the backgrounds
[07:21] <spy> sure, where can i find it
[07:21] <E-Xtremia> on this instellation, when i do so, it causes things to look very screwwy
[07:21] <spy> oh sorry neva mind
[07:21] <textshell> sas171: you should be able to enter it in the boot menu (grub).
[07:21] <gnomefreak> mikul, i dont think there is
[07:21] <sas171> mikul: wine is opensource
[07:21] <monyetz> do i have to install windows to use wine ?
[07:21] <textshell> mikul: try wine.
[07:21] <spy> hehe
[07:21] <sas171> monyetz: no
[07:21] <spy> no u dont
[07:21] <gnomefreak> monyetz, no
[07:21] <mikul> ok... thanks... will try wine ;)
[07:21] <Pygi> monyetz: no, no, and no :)
[07:21] <fam1> can anyone tell me what sort of bot ubotu is and if it is a package that can be downloaded somewhere?
[07:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mikul about wine
[07:22] <sas171> mikul: try wine-tools too
[07:22] <polpak> spy, did you run winetools?
[07:22] <mikul> ok
[07:22] <spy> yes its excellent
[07:22] <spy> use winetools
[07:22] <polpak> spy, it should have an option for "Installing the Base System"
[07:22] <mikul> will try it ;)
[07:22] <spy> yes i found all the cute little stuffies thanks
[07:22] <polpak> spy, which will let you install dcom
[07:22] <E-Xtremia> I could show a screen shot if you dont know what I mean
[07:22] <mikul> thanks everyone ;)
[07:22] <Pygi> fam1: it's a wiki bot....
[07:22] <spy> yes i did dcom, am doing ie now
[07:22] <polpak> spy, ok
[07:22] <gnomefreak> fam1, it takes more than just to download a bot
[07:22] <mikul> i need photoshop :P
[07:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fam1 about you
[07:23] <sas171> textshell: i have my boot record on the floppy disk, how to enter grub menu there?
[07:23] <fam1> tks
[07:23] <textshell> E-Xtremia: i never had that problem. Not sure what you could try to fix.
[07:23] <mikul> cant just switch to gimp
[07:23] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:23] <E-Xtremia> yeah, i didn't have it last time either
[07:23] <spy> are there ports for photoshop/maya/macromedia for linux?
[07:23] <E-Xtremia> just this instalation
[07:23] <blue-frog> spy, gimp, nvu
[07:23] <E-Xtremia> would reinstalling the pannel package help? if so, do you know where to find it?
[07:23] <sas171> mikul: you can get only photoshop 7 under wine (
[07:23] <spy> ah yes gimp... , what is nvu
[07:24] <textshell> sas171: hmm, never used a boot floppy with ubuntu. maybe you need to press ctrl alt or shift while booting...
[07:24] <gnomefreak> !nvu
[07:24] <ubotu> nvu is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[07:24] <blue-frog> spy, dreamweaver like
[07:24] <thegladiator> how do i open the kcontrol from the GUI is kde ?
[07:24] <fam1> I read that info before... but it doesn't identify what source/rpm/pkg, etc and where to find it
[07:24] <Hendikins> aka nvu is standalone Mozilla Composer, with a few extra goodies thanks to glazou
[07:24] <thegladiator> how do i open the kcontrol from the GUI in kde ?
[07:24] <sas171> textshell: ok, thank you, ill try
[07:24] <textshell> sas171: np
[07:25] <spy> i once saw a screenshot where if u right click its like an entire start menu.. can that be done in gnome?
[07:25] <scott__> hello all :)
[07:25] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, if its not in your menu type kcontrol in terminal
[07:25] <E-Xtremia> Spy: I am fairly sure it can be done
[07:25] <thegladiator> thanks
[07:25] <E-Xtremia> let me see if I can find what I think you need
[07:25] <gnomefreak> spy, that sounds more like enlightenment
[07:26] <polpak> spy, or fluxbox
[07:26] <E-Xtremia> Maybe it is gnome-launch-box?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> pick a box any box theres only 20 of them :((
[07:26] <spy> okay, does ubuntu support those
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> actually that could be said of most of the 'otehr' window managers. :P
[07:26] <textshell> spy: i don't think that gnome easily allows that...
[07:26] <polpak> spy, yes
[07:26] <gnomefreak> spy,  yes
[07:26] <E-Xtremia> I tried using Enlightenment once... I destroyed my Ubuntu instellation, had to reinstall
[07:27] <E-Xtremia> this is probably why Windows users shouldn't muck around
[07:27] <polpak> E-Xtremia, =p
[07:27] <gnomefreak> i use it sometimes i dont think im gonna use it with dapper yet but in breezy i do :))
[07:27] <Pygi> freaky: how's your dapper?
[07:27] <textshell> spy: never tried in ubuntu, but in debian it's no problem ;)
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  impressive.. it installed nicely into /opt/enlightemnet for me...
[07:27] <gnomefreak> Pygi, starting to get on my nerves :))
[07:27] <E-Xtremia> Dr_Willis, care to tell me how to do it?
[07:27] <textshell> hmm, i need to go .. (eating)
[07:28] <Pygi> freaky: huh, what happened? :)
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Pygi, this anjuta crap
[07:28] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :))
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  i found a nice little cvs-scriipt on the Enlightembnet site that downloaded/compiled/installed the latest cvs version.
[07:28] <Pygi> freaky: huh, well, it is good and usable for some people :)
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  that is for E17 however
[07:28] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Doesn't work too well on a SuSE box with a 33.6k dial-up connection, I'm afraid.
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Pygi, not in dapper its not unless they used the tar for 1.2.4a
[07:29] <E-Xtremia> Dr_Willis, I am very new to Linux, I dont even know what cvs is... you'd have to tell me in baby steps
[07:29] <E-Xtremia> lol
[07:29] <polpak> Dr_Acemaster, I'm pretty sure that E17 is in the repos
[07:29] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, good point lol
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  how about this.. dont use Enlightment.. :P
[07:29] <Massivf> ubuntu rocks
[07:29] <Pygi> freaky: huh
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  its over hyped.. and  annoying. :P
[07:29] <gnomefreak> cvs is a pharmacy
[07:29] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: which probably makes the fact I'm putting stuff in the ubuntu wiki mildly amusing.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  it wasent a few weeks/mo ago  :P
[07:30] <E-Xtremia> Dr_Willis: it looked very cool to me, I tried it and it seemed to run, except that the right click didn't work... when I tried to reinstall, I brought my whole kernel crashing down
[07:30] <gnomefreak> isnt E17 like the most basic desktop?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  Hmm.. somthing seems very odd about that...
[07:30] <spy> can i associate .exe files with wine
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> E17 has so much eye candy - its scary
[07:30] <sorush20> guys how do I install libavcode
[07:31] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install libavcode?
[07:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> spy: They should be associate by default, but yes.
[07:31] <E-Xtremia> Dr_Willis: do you know a safe way to do it (IE, either a simple version of what you did or a howto)?  I really am interested in it
[07:31] <Hendikins> I do have one question. Surely there has to be an easy way to link to a /section/ of another page on the wiki. How?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  i chedked the E site and their forums and fiound that script and ran it.
[07:31] <merly> My x386 install cd checks out on this computer, but on our older e-machine, it fails the integrity check
[07:31] <spy> no thanks... i got it setup.. nice :-) thanks for all ur help
[07:31] <polpak> Dr_Willis, ah.. you're right. It's e16
[07:31] <CioN> hey all I need to remove the lillypond package but it gives error and I can't uninstall it, it's messing up my sysem
[07:32] <gnomefreak> !wiki
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  and  the CVS E 17 would crash about every 5 min.
[07:32] <gnomefreak> !wiki howto
[07:32] <Hendikins> and I looked at that
[07:32] <Hendikins> (I think)
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  and i dident see any real features it had that made it stand out. Other then eye candy
[07:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CioN: What's the error?
[07:32] <spy> can i unhide the folder /.wine/ ?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> E seems to be one of theose window managers that everyone 'tries' but very few people actually 'use'
[07:33] <zAo^> anyone tried to compile XGL ?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> spy,  its not really hidden..  :P
[07:33] <polpak> spy, I'd suggest just making a symlink to your .wine/drive_c
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> spy,  make a link to it if you want
[07:33] <Hendikins> Dr_Willis: sounds like the other type of "E"
[07:33] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, why is that too light maybe?
[07:33] <spy> okay thanks
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  too light? its  all about eye candy.
[07:34] <merly> the integrity check on the older computer says initrd.gz fails md5 sum check. but, as i said, it checks out fine on this computer. same cd. and i checked the md5 sum for the ISO, and it's good
[07:34] <polpak> E-Xtremia, you can also check out fluxbox. It's got some of the e look and feel without being overly bloated/buggy
[07:34] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh i might have to look at that :))
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  yep 'try' but never 'use' :P
[07:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:34] <gnomefreak> if it has menu i will use
[07:35] <gnomefreak> if this ever finishes i might get to use
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> has 'menu' ?
[07:35] <E-Xtremia> Dr_Willis, What does fluxbox look like? have any screenshot links handy?
[07:35] <ralphitz> Hi - hope I am in accordance with channel policies. I am trying to install ubuntu on my mac mini, with at pc keyboard. My problem is, that although pressing 'c' during startup, it does not boot from cd
[07:35] <leefdaddy> what's up guys
[07:35] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, yes menu unlike flux or black box
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  goodle is your friend.. its fairly minimal.. and screenshots are always pointless :P
[07:36] <ralphitz> Any help would be appreciated
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  Huh?
[07:36] <E-Xtremia> Dr_Willis, minimal is not always best... I am pulling my hair out trying to get used to GNOME
[07:36] <Zambba> Help! The rights of home of one user are rwxrwx---, but he doesn't have rights to his files. He is the owner of his files also :S
[07:36] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, last time i checked i couldnt find a menu for any of the "boxes"
[07:36] <Blippe> AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGH
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> E-Xtremia,  gnome is not all that 'minimal' compared to others...
[07:36] <windmill_laptop> why does this happen when I run "apt-get upgrade" :  The following packages have been kept back:
[07:36] <windmill_laptop>   mencoder-k6 mplayer-586
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  all the Flux/Black/Open box's i used have a 'programs menu' rigth there on one of the mouse buttons
[07:37] <zAo^> ralphitz, are you sure you burned the iso correct? does it boot in another machine?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> ahhh thats right forgot about that
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  thats the 'standard' for 98% of the window managers out there.
[07:37] <ralphitz> it is an "official" cd, and works fine on my powerbook ...
[07:37] <gnomefreak> the right click hey looks theres a menu
[07:37] <spy> hehe
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  the 2 that dont do it - are KDE and GNOME. :P
[07:37] <spy> i forgot to crack sc
[07:37] <gnomefreak> oh ok didnt relize that
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  :P
[07:38] <spy> atleast the campaign editor works
[07:38] <merly> if it couldn't find a cdrom driver would it mess up the integrity check? or would it not get that far?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> xfce also
[07:38] <ralphitz> zAo^: it is an "official" cd, and works fine on my powerbook ...
[07:38] <zAo^> ralphitz, sorry, donno then. Try #apple or so i'd say
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> xfce has that feature.. actually I think KDE does as well
[07:38] <ralphitz> thanks
[07:38] <odin> Does ubuntu come default with a firewall?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> odin, yes
[07:38] <karrikas> hola
[07:38] <polpak> odin, no
[07:38] <smo> ralphitz, try holding down cmd-opt-o-f during boot, until after the chime.  that sohuld get you to openfirmware, where you can boot the CD with "boot cd:,\install\yaboot"
[07:38] <odin> gnomefreak: How do I disable it
[07:38] <odin> err?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> polpak,  sure it does thats what iptables are
[07:39] <windmill_laptop> why does this happen when I run "apt-get upgrade" :  The following packages have been kept back: mencoder-k6 mplayer-586
[07:39] <smo> ralphitz; cmd-opt equates to win+alt on a PC keyboard I believe
[07:39] <polpak> gnomefreak, he means turned on
[07:39] <gnomefreak> polpak, it is on by default no?
[07:39] <Thierry_> did someone mange to make ubuntu working on mac WITH bluetooth and wifi support ?
[07:39] <ralphitz> smo: ill try that, thanks
[07:39] <DebianDude> does ld.so.conf in ubuntu?
[07:39] <polpak> odin, yes, ubuntu can be configured to firewall, but by default itt does not
[07:39] <leefdaddy> how's everyone like ubuntu?
[07:39] <polpak> gnomefreak, nope
[07:39] <spy> ubuntu is great
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> leefdaddy,  it works. :P i give it a B+
[07:39] <polpak> gnomefreak, iptables -L everything accepts
[07:40] <polpak> gnomefreak, it doesn't need to be on, as none of the daemons in default ubuntu listen to the outside world
[07:40] <karrikas> hola
[07:40] <leefdaddy> I'm new to the Linux world and just installed it, i've used a few other distros lightly but nothing major... anyone recommend a good book on linux/
[07:40] <windmill_laptop> atp sucks
[07:40] <odin> ah..umm..a.rgh
[07:40] <windmill_laptop> apt
[07:40] <DebianDude> does ld.so.conf exist in ubuntu?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> leefdaddy,  what distro?
[07:40] <polpak> windmill_laptop, perhaps, but it's better than all the others
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> leefdaddy,  i tend to grab the ones i find on sale on the bargin tables...
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> leefdaddy,  ones with lots of words.. not pictures.
[07:40] <Pygi> windmill: please make a better system then apt then, thank you :)
[07:40] <leefdaddy> I just installed ubuntu
[07:41] <windmill_laptop> polpak, yum seems better to me
[07:41] <gnomefreak> apt is better than most of the rest out there including yum
[07:41] <mwe> Dr_Willis: if you give ubuntu B+ what do you give windows? and what would you give an A? :)
[07:41] <gnomefreak> yum is very slow
[07:41] <windmill_laptop> polpak, it gives you more info
[07:41] <polpak> windmill_laptop, that's untill you actually try to install something other than the base packages
[07:41] <Pygi> huh, not yum thingy :/
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  nothing gets an A :P yet.
[07:41] <DebianDude> windows = F-
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  and you dont even want to get me started on windows :P
[07:41] <gnomefreak> thats one of the reasons i stopped running redhat and fc
[07:41] <mwe> Dr_Willis: alright. fair enough
[07:42] <polpak> mwe, Dr_Willis is waiting for GoogOS
[07:42] <polpak> mwe, ;p
[07:42] <windmill_laptop> so why does this happen when I run "apt-get upgrade" :  The following packages have been kept back: mencoder-k6 mplayer-586
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  Yep! :p
[07:42] <windmill_laptop> no explanation
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  printed out an artical about that just a few min ago.
[07:42] <mwe> polpak: yeah :)
[07:42] <gnomefreak> windmill_laptop,  first what version are you on?
[07:42] <DebianDude> does ld.so.conf exist in ubuntu? If not how do I point to shared libraries?
[07:42] <windmill_laptop> what of apt?
[07:43] <gnomefreak> windmill_laptop, of ubuntu
[07:43] <leefdaddy> what is the easiest way to map a drive from a windows share?
[07:43] <windmill_laptop> 5.10
[07:43] <windmill_laptop> of squashed hedgehog or whatever
[07:43] <gnomefreak> windmill_laptop,  did you try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> apts holding those back - because its decided it needs to for some reasion. :P Ive seen similer messages with some of the various video/transcode/ apps.
[07:43] <windmill_laptop> gnomefreak, no....
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> how did you install mplayer and menucoder?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> or try the apt updater in the top right hand corner
[07:44] <merly> has anyone else had problems with install cd failing integrity check on older comp, but passing on newer comp? any fix to install on older?
[07:44] <windmill_laptop> from a repo
[07:44] <jean> SALU SA FART?
[07:44] <cycom> merly: bad drive?
[07:44] <merly> cycom - it works, or worked, before in win
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> windmill_laptop,  and which repo was that?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> clean or get a new rom drive
[07:45] <cycom> merly: working and working well are two very different things.
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> !info mencoder-k6
[07:45] <CioN> hey all i need to remove a package that's messing up with my system can anyone help me?
[07:45] <ubotu> mencoder-k6: (MPlayer's Movie Encoder), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 2827 kB, Installed size: 6188 kB
[07:45] <jean> SALU JE MAPELLE JEAN COCO?!
[07:45] <windmill_laptop> Dr_Willis, errr ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages
[07:45] <windmill_laptop> I think
[07:45] <graabein> hullo. i am having problems pinging my ip. is there a software firewall installed on ubuntu?
[07:45] <Pygi> Cion: sudo apt-get remove package
[07:45] <cycom> jean: why are you using all caps?
[07:45] <merly> cycom - could dirty drive or broken drive make it fail "initrd.gz failed m5 checksum" but nonetheless get that far in the installation?
[07:45] <[DeCaf] > What do I need to install to make local mail delivery function?
[07:45] <CioN> Pygi it won't work
[07:45] <cycom> merly: maybe. dunno.
[07:46] <gnomefreak> windmill_laptop, dont use debian repos with ubuntu they have been known to break
[07:46] <polpak> DebianDude, afaik ld.so.conf doesn't exist. But I believe you can add it (with the appropriate entries) w/o borking anything
[07:46] <windmill_laptop> gnomefreak, I got that from the wiki I think
[07:46] <gnomefreak> windmill_laptop, i would hope not
[07:46] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[07:46] <ubotu> easysource is, like, totally, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:46] <gnomefreak> thry there
[07:46] <DebianDude> polpak, cheers...just giving that a whirl now
[07:47] <polpak> graabein, ubuntu can be configured to firewall, but it doesn't have any such configuration by default
[07:47] <gnomefreak> try even
[07:47] <graabein> polpak, so there is just a matter of opening port 22 on my router?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> could be  its a debian verison of the package - so uits not letting a ubuntu version over write it.
[07:47] <graabein> polpak, it is strange. my friend couldnt ping me but i can
[07:47] <polpak> graabein, no.. The reason that ubuntu doesn't need a firewall is because it doesn't install any daemons that listen to the outside world by default
[07:48] <windmill_laptop> gnomefreak, link timed out
[07:48] <sas171> damn grub
[07:48] <graabein> polpak, i have installed openssh
[07:48] <polpak> graabein, if you want ssh access to your box you have to apt-get the daemon (openssh I believe)
[07:48] <CioN> hey all i need to remove a package that's messing up with my system can anyone help me?
[07:48] <thegladiator> from the live cd or the install cd ,ca n i replace my /usr/share/pixmpas directoy ?
[07:48] <polpak> graabein, ah.. then it should be fine
[07:48] <thegladiator> i messed up with the directory by replicatong some of the pics
[07:48] <graabein> polpak, but what can be the reason he cant ping me?
[07:48] <gnomefreak> windmill_laptop, try this than
[07:48] <gnomefreak> !sources
[07:48] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:48] <gnomefreak> try those links
[07:49] <graabein> polpak, i used whatismyip.com and i can ping him but he can't ping me
[07:49] <sas171> CioN: use apt
[07:49] <gnomefreak> !firewall
[07:49] <ubotu> from memory, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[07:49] <polpak> graabein, my guess is you're on a broadband connection behind a DSL/Cable router and the router isn't configured to forward or respond to pings
[07:49] <aedes> how do I test what printers are available from a host via ipp?
[07:49] <CioN> sas171 I did: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-data_2.6.3-9~breezy1_all.deb
[07:49] <CioN>  /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond_2.6.3-9~breezy1_i386.deb
[07:49] <CioN> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:50] <eksajm> !w32codecs
[07:50] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:50] <gnomefreak> CioN, please use pastebin to paste
[07:50] <graabein> polpak, ok, that could be it... but when i have opened port 22 on the router he should get in?
[07:50] <CioN> sorry
[07:50] <fam1> anyone have an opinion on whether the supybot or blootbot would be a better start for beginner ?
[07:50] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[07:50] <polpak> graabein, assuming that the ssh daemon is running yes
[07:51] <reyn> I'v installed another machine's disks on my machine, how do I mount an lvm (8e) disk ?
[07:51] <sas171> CioN: sorry i think i cant help you right now
[07:51] <graabein> polpak, i checked the config file and did ssh restart with no error messages...
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> fam1,  one could ask - why do you really need a 'bot'
[07:51] <CioN> sas171 ok thx
[07:51] <polpak> graabein, if you just installed it it might not be running unless you enable it in your /etc/init.d/rc2.d directory
[07:51] <polpak> graabein, ok
[07:51] <CioN> hey all i need to remove a package that's messing up with my system can anyone help me?
[07:51] <fam1> channel management and to make repetitive questions/info...etc easy for ops
[07:51] <sas171> is there some tool to create pppoe connection?
[07:51] <polpak> graabein, did you netstat -an | grep LISTEN to see if port 22 is open to the outside?
[07:51] <Manifold> !java
[07:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:52] <graabein> polpak, no, i'll try it
[07:52] <djk_> sas171: pppoeconf in a konsole...
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> fam1,  better off just making a web site :P  good luck.
[07:52] <spy> okay!!! WINE
[07:52] <sas171> djk_: and only pppoeconf? i have some problems with it
[07:52] <polpak> graabein, if it is (and I suspect that it most likely is) then I'd guess the problem is again your DSL/Cable Router isn't forwarding the port
[07:52] <spy> im going 2 wine!!
[07:52] <spy> hehe
[07:52] <fam1> anyone else have an intelligent reply?
[07:52] <spy> Man wine is screwed up (actually its probably me)
[07:52] <djk_> sas171: sudo pppoeconf
[07:53] <graabein> polpak, tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN
[07:53] <spy> atleast i got starcraft to run, but i had to past it into c:\windows (home/spy/.wine/c_drive/windows
[07:53] <polpak> graabein, that's tcp6
[07:53] <polpak> graabein, which won't be helpful
[07:53] <leefdaddy> so how do i go about installing mplayer?
[07:53] <graabein> polpak, hehe ok. i'm pretty new to this
[07:53] <sas171> djk_: thank you, I have some problems with pppoeconf under kubuntu
[07:53] <polpak> graabein, is there one that says 0.0.0.0:22 or just tcp ?
[07:54] <sas171> so no other tool to manage adsl connections?
[07:54] <textshell> leefdaddy: if you do a mplayer install from source right, you get the best results...
[07:54] <polpak> spy, that seems unusual
[07:54] <beruic> Can anyone tell me how to set the mail program of choice?
[07:54] <spy> yeah it is
[07:54] <graabein> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:32769         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[07:54] <graabein> tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:32770         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[07:54] <polpak> graabein, no
[07:55] <spy> i setup the drives correctly
[07:55] <polpak> graabein, don't paste here
[07:55] <textshell> beruic: which mail programm ? ;)
[07:55] <graabein> ok sorry
[07:55] <spy> but fix.exe (which returns the folder it is in) keeps returning c:\windows no matter where i place it
[07:55] <polpak> graabein, if you want, you can pastebin the output of netstat -an | grep LISTEN and I'll take a look
[07:55] <beruic> I want to change from Evolution to Thunderbird
[07:55] <spy> and all other programs say they cant find their friends
[07:55] <polpak> graabein, but use pastebin
[07:55] <graabein> polpak, allright
[07:55] <spy> so i guess putting all my programs in c:\windows solves it
[07:55] <sas171> beruic: i think there is a menu entry under preferences in gnome panel
[07:55] <beruic> textshell: I want to change from Evolution to Thunderbird...
[07:56] <polpak> spy, I've never had to do that with wine
[07:56] <nitroxide> hi
[07:56] <beruic> sas171: I'll take a look
[07:56] <polpak> spy, what is fix.exe and where did you get it?
[07:56] <zazza> hi all
[07:56] <spy> no no fix.exe fixes the registry entries for starcraft
[07:56] <spy> hehe
[07:56] <beruic> Found it :) thx
[07:56] <graabein> polpak, there is just those two tcp, one tcp6 and the rest are unix
[07:56] <sas171> beruic: np =)
[07:57] <textshell> beruic: ah, ok you the default mail programm is configurable in the settings menu.
[07:57] <polpak> graabein, ok, then it seems like your sshd config file isn't set up to listen to standard tcp which is what you want
[07:57] <polpak> graabein, I believe it's /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:57] <reyn> anybody know how to mount a lvm disk ?
[07:57] <graabein> unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     202305   /tmp/ssh-WgbHXI7767/agent.7767
[07:57] <polpak> graabein, can you pastebin the file?
[07:57] <polpak> graabein, yeah, that doesn't matter
[07:57] <graabein> is it that one? ok, i'll pastebin the config
[07:59] <spy> well polpak im only running wine for Starcraft so it works... no more screweing around..
[07:59] <spy> dont fix it if it aint broke ... :-)
[07:59] <polpak> spy, ok then =p
[07:59] <graabein> polpak, http://pastebin.com/489001
[07:59] <polpak> spy, you can have multiply wine installations
[07:59] <polpak> spy, if you want
[08:00] <mikul> why is wine really slow sometimes? is that normal?
[08:00] <spy> hehe... well well perhaps i can run Warcraft 3 aswell?
[08:00] <polpak> mikul, why is windows really slow sometimes
[08:00] <polpak> spy, sure
[08:00] <spy> mikul : I have same delema, in sc it lags
[08:00] <mikul> polpak, haha
[08:00] <polpak> spy, what video card do you have?
[08:01] <mikul> polpak, so true :P
[08:01] <spy> fx 6800
[08:01] <polpak> graabein, uncomment #ListenAddress 0.0.0.0  (take off the #)
[08:01] <graabein> polpak, okay, is that it?
[08:01] <polpak> mikul, and you've installed the nvidia drivers
[08:01] <polpak> graabein, should be... you'll need to restart the daemon
[08:01] <spy> hey mikul want a screen shot of starcraft?
[08:02] <spy> running in linux?
[08:02] <graabein> polpak, great! thanks. i'll try it with my friend
[08:02] <hippo> hi everyone... i have an ubuntu setup on a box that i want to turn into a web hosting server. can anyone point me in the direction of setting that up professionally and securely? i am a total linux noob :(
[08:02] <hippo> feel free to pm me if you would like
[08:02] <hippo> ty
[08:02] <mikul> spy, why not ;)
[08:03] <polpak> hippo, I'd suggest either becoming less of a linux noob, or hiring someone who knows more about it before trying to set up a professional server.. It's better left to the professionals ;p
[08:03] <polpak> hippo, not to say you shouldn't try
[08:03] <hippo> well its not like that exactly...
[08:03] <hippo> im a senior designer at a company who uses windows nt hosting
[08:04] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gettext
[08:04] <hippo> and i complain to them regularly that every linux hosting ive seen is better, more open source software etc...
[08:04] <gnomefreak> damn wrong window
[08:04] <polpak> hippo, but administrating web servers (and the security issues therein) isn't an easy job for someone just starting out
[08:04] <spy> hey mikul & hippo accept the file
[08:04] <hippo> so we are doing a trial linux box for my personal website
[08:04] <ScootaDoota> hippo: do you currently do your own NT hosting?
[08:04] <hippo> its not like im about to start a professional linux hosting company... but i do want to host my site on our lines and ips, but on ubuntu
[08:04] <hippo> yes.
[08:04] <hippo> we run about 200 sites
[08:05] <Belboz99> Hey all, I've got a problem trying to install a piece of software from source using make
[08:05] <spy> and all 200 are windows baseD?
[08:05] <hippo> all. nt4
[08:05] <mikul> spy, how
[08:05] <mikul> ?
[08:05] <polpak> hippo, I'd still suggest hiring someone to help you get started
[08:05] <odat> hello everyone
[08:05] <spy> it should pop up or be a tab
[08:05] <Seveas> hippo, apt-get install apache2
[08:05] <ScootaDoota> hippo, do you have anyone in the company with linux experience?
[08:05] <Seveas> then read documentation :)
[08:05] <mikul> it dosent
[08:05] <Seveas> the default setup is pretty secure
[08:05] <mwe> Belboz99: yeah. first stip is to install build-essential if you didn't
[08:06] <hippo> not really scoota
[08:06] <sas171> hippo: yet read the wikki?
[08:06] <hippo> so seveas... just go straight to apache?
[08:06] <blue-frog> hippo, http://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/4  look for perfect isp setup in the menu
[08:06] <hippo> sas171 which wikki, ubuntu?
[08:06] <Seveas> hippo, that's the de facto standard on linux systems
[08:06] <ScootaDoota> hippo:  try this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1583470328/qid=1136315169/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5198102-3712716?n=507846&s=books&v=glance
[08:06] <sas171> hippo: yes =)
[08:06] <Seveas> hippo, wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <polpak> hippo, you'll need apache, and either a ftp or sftp daemon at a minimum
[08:06] <mikul> spy, it dosent pop up any tabs :S
[08:07] <spy> mmm... gee.. i dont know the.. hehe.. email?
[08:07] <hippo> yea im at help.ubuntu.com now.
[08:07] <Seveas> help.ubuntu.com is good too
[08:07] <gnomefreak> how would i know if checkinstall wouldnt work with anjuta tar?
[08:07] <hippo> i was just wondering was there like a nice resource that was dedicated to setting up linux/ubuntu hosting
[08:07] <hippo> none i guess?
[08:07] <Seveas> the wiki is the staging area for help.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <textshell> i'm looking for documentation or at least a short description for the repository breezy-updates, any pointers?
[08:07] <Seveas> hippo, that book is good
[08:07] <spy> wait maybe i upload
[08:07] <ale3hs> basically I connected a monitor to my laptop... how can I make linux see my second monitor??
[08:08] <Seveas> and since it's really easy to do a basic setup there are no real websites devored to it
[08:08] <dcode> is there a way to make the installer think it already completed a step?
[08:08] <sas171> hippo: there are some info abou about installing LAMP on the wiki under "Server" and some good docs at apaches site =) good luck
[08:08] <dcode> i.e. manually do it instead
[08:08] <blue-frog> hippo, http://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/4  look for perfect isp setup in the menu
[08:08] <BaalBehrit> hey.. i have wireless net, and it has a very bad signal to access point. so i have to change bit rate from 11 mb/s to 1 mb/s to work, but in ubuntu, it won`t do it, when i do iwconfig, it still says 11 mb/s. i tried in win, and it works, but it ubuntu it won`t. i changed rate with command iwconfig wlan0 rate 1
[08:08] <mikul> damn wine is lagging
[08:09] <textshell> ale3hs: if you want to have something diffenent at the monitor than on the lcd you need to look for information about  xinerama
[08:09] <spy> http://www.geocities.com/djspy187/Screenshot.png
[08:09] <flogiston> How do i use the unrar program that can be installed from synaptic?
[08:09] <mwe> flogiston: unrar foo.rar
[08:09] <gnomefreak> :(( i hate make errors
[08:09] <Seveas> flogiston, unrar x foo.rar
[08:09] <sas171> spy: wow... good work
[08:09] <flogiston> and x does?
[08:09] <spy> hehe thanks
[08:10] <Seveas> eXtract
[08:10] <ale3hs> textshell, ok I ll check it, but i have no clue what xinerama is
[08:10] <spy> im so proud
[08:10] <dcode> I was trying to follow the directions on wiki/Installation/FromUSBStick for dapper...but it refuses to continue w/o mounting the cdrom
[08:10] <flogiston> And if there are many parts?
[08:10] <sas171> flogiston: just use roller
[08:10] <BaalBehrit> ppl?
[08:10] <hippo> okay so what im getting is... a) understanding linux first is the real problem. b) then you can worry about apache+everything else?
[08:10] <flogiston> Roller?
[08:10] <mikul> spy, nice ;)
[08:10] <gnomefreak> spy,  you did that in gimp?
[08:10] <textshell> ale3hs: it's the "name" of the multimonitor support for linux (or X11)
[08:10] <BaalBehrit> does someone have the solution for my problem?
[08:10] <blue-frog> hippo, basically yes
[08:11] <flogiston> When i try unrar file.rar bash says command not found
[08:11] <textshell> hippo: a good understanding of the OS used is needed for any kind of public server...
[08:11] <skon> that's beacuse unrar isn't a program
[08:11] <skon> flogiston: use rar, install it from www.rarlabs.com
[08:12] <sas171> hippo: linux is no problem if you working on since your first computer. and a server is really complicated system... like light effects ;)
[08:12] <flogiston> I installed rar and urar from synaptic.
[08:12] <flogiston> *unrar
[08:12] <mwe> skon: what's the price?
[08:12] <hippo> okay so... do you guys feel that ubuntu would be a good environment for hosting.... period? i know we had a freebsd guy at one point years ago.
[08:12] <hippo> but for windows people, ubuntu is a smoother transition?
[08:12] <mwe> skon: $50 or something, right?
[08:12] <ale3hs> textshell, I already have libxinerama1
[08:12] <spy> gnomefreak : did what in gimp?
[08:12] <ale3hs> textshell, how I run the client|
[08:13] <gnomefreak> that space shot?
[08:13] <Belboz99> hey, anyone have a quick and dirty way of sharing my Linux printer with a Windows Laptop over a home network?
[08:13] <skon> mwe, price for what?
[08:13] <spy> gnomefreak : are talking bout the same thing, theres nothing to do, its sc with xchat in the background
[08:13] <gnomefreak> what is sc?
[08:14] <sas171> hippo: i think ubuntu is made for desktops and it is better to run the server under bsd
[08:14] <gnomefreak> and yes that is what im talking about
[08:14] <hippo> hmm
[08:14] <spy> suse is much the same as ubuntu
[08:14] <mwe> skon: rar
[08:14] <textshell> ale3hs: sure ubuntu has all the needed programmes shiped in the default install, but you have to do the configuration. I don't know all the details, but googling for xinerame xorg setup should help ;) Maybe the wiki contains a few pointers to.
[08:14] <gnomefreak> hippo, ubuntu works fine as a server
[08:14] <spy> starcraft
[08:14] <mwe> skon: it's not freeware. only unrar is iirc
[08:14] <spy> thanks.. hehe, so how u look? In console?
[08:14] <textshell> ale3hs: xinerama actually ;)
[08:14] <ale3hs> textshell, always the hard way.. anyway trhanx :)
[08:15] <hippo> allright. well thanks for the help guys. i appreciate it... ill probably be back with more specific questions next time :)
[08:15] <skon> mwe, rar was free for me? i downloaded it from the site
[08:15] <blue-frog> hippo try #ubuntu-server for server questions
[08:15] <textshell> ale3hs: i don't know a easy one... but i'm no expert for easy ways ;)
[08:15] <hippo> cool i will
[08:15] <hippo> thanks again
[08:16] <sas171> my kubuntu dont wants to boot after i made pppoeconf, some ideas?
[08:16] <mwe> skon: I think you're supposed to pay if you use it more than 40 days.
[08:16] <spy> okay so where do i start to get a compiler for c++?
[08:16] <skon> mwe: lol, just noticed that...oh well I don't use rar much anyway
[08:16] <sas171> spy: gcc?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> build-essential spy
[08:16] <textshell> Belboz99: it shouldn't be to hard with samba to setup... samba.org has some example files..
[08:16] <zAo^> what is the command for the multimedia selector?
[08:17] <textshell> spy: gcc or g++
[08:17] <GenghisKhan> syp: aptitude install g++
[08:17] <serfin> hola
[08:17] <mwe> spy: apt-get install build-essential is probably a good choice. it'll include gcc
[08:17] <spy> thanks.. :-)
[08:17] <sas171> mwe: +1
[08:17] <spy> time to find tutorials on doing OpenGL in Linux
[08:17] <mwe> sas171: ?
[08:17] <sas171> mwe:i mean i think so too =)
[08:18] <mwe> sas171: ok
[08:18] <TengkSA> Hi All, I get an error when trying to start Synaptic Package Manager.. the following comes up
[08:18] <TengkSA> E: ERROR: could not create configuration directory /root/.synaptic - mkdir (2 No such file or directory)
[08:18] <TengkSA> anyone know how to fix that
[08:18] <spy> okay so i did apt-get build essential and it finished... so whats next? There arent any linked shortcuts
[08:18] <sas171> spy: what do you want to bild?
[08:18] <zAo^> TengkSA, sudo mkdir ~root/.synaptic
[08:18] <mwe> spy: you want an ide or what? you said a compiler. it's not gui
[08:19] <spy> hehe
[08:19] <spy> okay so i now need the editor/gui
[08:19] <mwe> spy: type gcc foo.c to compile
[08:19] <zAo^> no1 on the multimedia selector
[08:19] <zAo^> ?
[08:19] <spy> thanks... but i have nooo Linux experience in coding..
[08:19] <mwe> spy: you probably want anjuta
[08:19] <spy> point me to a quick tut please
[08:19] <gnomefreak> spy try anjuta or kdevelop for GUI editers or go text with emacns or vim :))
[08:19] <TengkSA> zAo^, mkdir: cannot create directory `/root/.synaptic': No such file or directory
[08:19] <spy> okay anjuta is installing
[08:20] <gnomefreak> spy,  your on breezy right?
[08:20] <spy> hehe , it added a nice shortcut
[08:20] <spy> breezy? Not sure what that means
[08:20] <gnomefreak> 5.10
[08:20] <gnomefreak> version of ubuntu
[08:20] <textshell> TengkSA: your system seems to be broken in some way... does sudo mkdir /root work
[08:20] <sas171> ok, i have to reinstall kubuntu now... have you ever installed some linux distro without problems? =)))
[08:20] <zAo^> TengkSA, try: sudo -s ; cd ~root ; mkdir .synaptic
[08:20] <mwe> spy: but it's not a compiler. the compiler is still gcc/g++ just to be clear. anjuta is just a frontend, basically
[08:21] <jesper> how do i make ubuntu use the PS2-mouse instead of the mouse on my laptop?
[08:21] <gnomefreak> to compile a C program is gcc file.c -o file
[08:21] <spy> thanks i think thats all except 2 more issues
[08:21] <TengkSA> bash: cd: /root: No such file or directory
[08:21] <spy> my mouse's extr 2 buttons
[08:21] <spy> how can i get em to work..
[08:21] <textshell> sas171: i installed ubuntu without problems the last time i tried (not counting the broken prozessor)
[08:21] <TengkSA> textshell, i do that and nothing happens
[08:22] <textshell> TengkSA: that's good. all went well.
[08:22] <TengkSA> cool thanks
[08:23] <textshell> TengkSA: but your system seems to be broken in some way... but maybe synaptic starts now...
[08:23] <gnomefreak> <<<getting mad now
[08:23] <gnomefreak> thats number 6
[08:24] <TengkSA> textshell, it does
[08:24] <TengkSA> textshell, are there any programs that one can download to change cursors and stuff
[08:24] <gnomefreak> maybe checkinstall fails because it cant be used?
[08:25] <textshell> TengkSA: the problem was that the root's homedir didn't exist. (if your wondering)
[08:25] <jenda> How can I make dvd:rip make me a simple 699 MB avi from a 7.3 Gig DVD, without all the other stuff it normally does? Just DVD>avi (or any other format for that matter)
[08:25] <Subsonix> someone tried the ubuntu search engine yet? http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu-search/
[08:25] <textshell> TengkSA: change the mouse pointer?
[08:25] <TengkSA> textshell,  yes
[08:26] <odat> quick question
[08:26] <blue-frog> jenda rip and encode... using the various tabs
[08:26] <textshell> TengkSA: i never tried but i think you can select a mouse pointer in the mouse config dialog in gnome...
[08:26] <mwe> odat: hurry up or it wont be quick
[08:26] <odat> if i had to pick between 386 and 686 kernel  what the hell would be the benefit?
[08:26] <polpak> TengkSA, are you just talking about "theming"
[08:26] <spy> what library must i include to use cin/cout ?
[08:26] <mwe> odat: optimization
[08:27] <blue-frog> odat none you would be aware of most likekly
[08:27] <Seveas> spy #include <iostream>
[08:27] <spy> #include<?> // for cin/cout
[08:27] <Jonc101> Does anyone know if there's a free app similar to vmware for linux?
[08:27] <jenda> odat: AFAIK, if you have lots of ram or a new processor (or dual core)... then it's significant.
[08:27] <odat> blue-frog, gotcha
[08:27] <mwe> Jonc101: qemu
[08:27] <blue-frog> Jonc101, vmware qemu
[08:27] <textshell> odat: the 686 can use the improvements of the last few years of processor design ;)
[08:27] <Seveas> spy, but this in not a programming channel, try #C++
[08:27] <polpak> odat, one kernel is specifically optimized for higher end intel compatible processors
[08:27] <TengkSA> polpak, no matter what theme i use the mouse is always called Human
[08:27] <dcode> I was trying to follow the directions on wiki/Installation/FromUSBStick for dapper...but it refuses to continue w/o mounting the cdrom
[08:27] <dcode> is there a way to make the installer think it already completed a step?
[08:27] <dcode> i.e. manually do it instead
[08:27] <polpak> TengkSA, so you just want to change the mouse?
[08:27] <Jonc101> is it completely free, aka no licensing issues?  and does it do the same thing as vmware?
[08:28] <ph8> hey guys, before I go about trying to convert the fedora rpms of xchat to debian/ubuntu friendly formats is there a way for me to get the latest version of xchat in a more speedy/regular fashion?
[08:28] <TengkSA> polpak, yea
[08:28] <odat> and to switch over from 386 to 686 would entail?
[08:28] <textshell> Jonc101: maybe qemu but nothing as fast as vmware...
[08:28] <spy> hehe, thanks seveas
[08:28] <mwe> Jonc101: It ran dead slow on my machine though. other people have had varying succes
[08:28] <Belboz99> Hey all, how come CUPS isn't taking my username/pass at the web interface?
[08:28] <ph8> odat:  apt-get install linux-686 then apt-get remove linux-386
[08:28] <blue-frog> Jonc101, use vmware player to play, qemu to build...
[08:28] <ph8> or keep the 386 as a backup
[08:28] <mwe> Jonc101: it's free. you don't have to pay anything.
[08:28] <Subsonix> btw. cool ubuntu search engine: http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu-search/
[08:29] <polpak> TengkSA, you just need to download a new mouse theme and put it in your ~/.icons directory AFAIK
[08:29] <blue-frog> Belboz99, diasbled by default, must add cupsys to shadow in /etc/group and restart cups to enable it
[08:29] <TengkSA> AFAIK?
[08:29] <odat> ph8, i would image the amd specific kernel would have the same effect
[08:30] <polpak> TengkSA, As Far As I Know
[08:30] <polpak> TengkSA, ah
[08:30] <polpak> TengkSA, wait
[08:30] <polpak> TengkSA, I think there is a program that can set up new ones for you
[08:30] <polpak> TengkSA, one sec
[08:31] <Jonc101> ah ok ill check it out.  but let me explain why i need it and maybe you can give me some direction here.  i have a couple xp boxes that are unable to logon to a domain wirelessly with users that have roaming profiles, the reason for this is that the windows wireless zero config utility hasnt started at pre-logon so hence the box cant see the domain.  what i was thinking of doing was setting up linux and then installing xp with a vmwar
[08:32] <Belboz99> sweet, that worked blue-frog, thanks!
[08:32] <spy> what bit torrent program would u recommend?
[08:32] <spikeh> BitTornado
[08:32] <textshell> Jonc101: you if you need windows that much it might be easier to fight windows to work with windows tools...
[08:32] <Jonc101> would i be able to do that above with ubuntu?
[08:33] <polpak> TengkSA, hrm... Nevermind. It didn't seem to work. You just need to (as I said) install the theme into your ~/.icons directory
[08:33] <ph8> hey guys, before I go about trying to convert the fedora rpms of xchat to debian/ubuntu friendly formats is there a way for me to get the latest version of xchat in a more speedy/regular fashion?
[08:33] <Subsonix> spy: azureus, see http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-p2p-bittorrent-client-azureus
[08:33] <ph8> spy: The original BT
[08:33] <blue-frog> ph8 use breezy backports
[08:33] <Jonc101> textshell: problem is i've tried literally everything windows related to get this to work and come up blank, hell, i called microsoft and they couldnt provide support
[08:33] <ojoi> can anyone help me with ubuntu 5.10 amd 64 bit on a hp nx6125 notebook
[08:34] <odat> is there any special kernel for the sempron?
[08:34] <TengkSA> okay polpak  ta anyway chow
[08:34] <ph8> cheers blue-frog, i had that commented for some reason
[08:34] <Jonc101> so my little hack is to use linux to maintain the wireless connection.  windows will be unaware of this and simply see a network connection allowing users to login logout etc
[08:34] <mwe> hondje: what's roaming profiles and windows wireless zero config and pre logon?
[08:34] <ph8> do you happen to have an up to date repos for backports?
[08:34] <Jonc101> mwe?
[08:34] <mwe> Jonc101: what's roaming profiles and windows wireless zero config and pre logon?
[08:34] <grayman> Jonc101, you can run vmware on windows too
[08:35] <textshell> Jonc101: i'd say you need vmware for such heavy use... Or try to use linux for most of the work...
[08:35] <Mez> !tell ph8 about backports
[08:35] <ph8> cheers
[08:35] <spy> Subsonix : Package azureus is not available,
[08:35] <blue-frog> ph8, anytime you change something in the list you need to reload
[08:35] <Jonc101> i just need linux to support the infrastructure.  ill load windows xp up on top of a vmware-type app which will allow the users to do their thing.
[08:35] <ph8> bbs
[08:35] <ph8> i know :)
[08:36] <ScootaDoota> Jonc101: that sounds very messy to me
[08:36] <mwe> Jonc101: well try qemu if you like. it was dead slow for me though, like I said
[08:36] <blue-frog> Jonc101, how many clients?
[08:36] <lisi> hello, how can I separate an evolution inbox mails cause I have 2 different accounts.
[08:36] <GenghisKhan> Jonc101: it can work. that zero config thingie is dhcp, isn't it?
[08:37] <mwe> Jonc101: I mean like _really_ slow to the point that it was so annoying I gave up using it.
[08:37] <jeje> hi!!!
[08:37] <jeje> I've a question...
[08:37] <Jonc101> blue-frog: about 5 users in this scenario.  schoota, ya very messy lol but if it works :D.
[08:37] <Zen> anybody know how to install to a RAID-1 on a Silicon Image 3112A?  it shows up as two drives instead of one
[08:37] <hikenboot> hello all I changed the password of root user so i could log in to get a gui program to complete an install...not yet successful I had to reboot and when i did i was not able to run startxfce4 because of a permissions problem with .xauthority solved it temporarily by giving rwx to owner group world..then it starts as slow as molases
[08:38] <blue-frog> Jonc101, have a look at freenx
[08:38] <ScootaDoota> Jonc101: what spec machines are your clients using
[08:38] <jeje> ubuntu have support for TV Card Pinnacle?
[08:38] <mwe> hikenboot: don't run X as root
[08:38] <grayman> hikenboot, you dont use root on ubuntu
[08:38] <Jonc101> scoota: p4 3.0ghz, 512mb ram.  they're hp dc7100sff 's
[08:38] <blue-frog> Jonc101, that means windows with the freenx server will be used by the 5 clients
[08:39] <textshell> hikenboot: you should do everything that need root access with sudo  or sudo -i (opens a root terminal)
[08:39] <Jonc101> bluefrog how does that work?
[08:39] <ScootaDoota> Jonc101: okay they are good enough spec for vmware, but I reckon there must be a way of doing this without going the Linux/vmware method
[08:39] <ojoi> hp nx6125 notebook help required
[08:39] <blue-frog> Jonc101, but am not sure where your problem lies anyway, your windows clients don't get a dhcp address, is that the problem?
[08:40] <Jonc101> scoota ye i wish there was a way to do this windows only but if microsoft doesnt even know how to solve the problem then i'd say its an issue
[08:40] <jeje> ubuntu have support for TV Card Pinnacle?
[08:40] <mwe> Jonc101: could you explain again what you're trying to achieve? without the windows terms I don't understand?
[08:40] <grayman> maybe its possible to solve it linux only?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> ok there is not #compile channel where can i find help for compiling from tar?
[08:40] <gnomefreak> oh and noone in #anjuta
[08:40] <Jonc101> bluefrog: no, the problem is that (in windows) the wireless connection doesnt start until after you have logged on.
[08:40] <hikenboot> not runnig as root
[08:40] <hikenboot> running as a user who is in the sudo file
[08:40] <hikenboot> but runnig as the user..example su hikenboot ---startxfce4
[08:40] <textshell> ojoi: maybe http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/custom/hplaptops helps?
[08:41] <ScootaDoota>  Jonc101: okay...and they can't log on until they get the domain!
[08:41] <blue-frog> Jonc101, ok then ubuntu clients with freenx clients and windows with freenx server, your ubuntu clients will log with freenx on windows (freenx = faster than vnc)
[08:41] <dave-0> greetings. gettting apt-get to "just work" (tm) (for hoary) shouldn't involve anything more than editing /etc/apt/sources.list and running 'apt-get update', right?
[08:42] <hikenboot> textshell: that would be great except some gui programs are not prepaired to work with a hidden root user..for example in my case it is samsung printer driver installer
[08:42] <gnomefreak> getting apt to work? apt works out of box
[08:42] <blue-frog> Jonc101, or freenx clients on windows clients..
[08:42] <ScootaDoota> Jonc101: chicken and egg situation.......hmmm...you can't be the first one to have encountered this one
[08:42] <revmoo> guys, something trashed my grub while i was asleep, it changed root= to hdc rather than the hda that it should be, rendering my system unusable.......could this be a script gone haywire or has my system been comprimised?
[08:42] <ojoi> well i tried there text no solution......can you tell me which distro will run on it
[08:42] <gnomefreak> edit your sources list to get more apps for ubuntu
[08:42] <joshi_> Is Half-Life supported on linux?
[08:42] <mwe> Jonc101: What do you mean the wifi don't start until you log on? I access my winbox over smb and wifi without logging onto the machine first
[08:42] <blue-frog> Jonc101, so that they will wrok on the windows freenx server
[08:42] <dave-0> gnomefreak: actually, apt doesn't work out of the box. the repositories in sources.list are commented out.
[08:43] <textshell> hikenboot: maybe your printer works with cups too?
[08:43] <Jonc101> Okay let me rephrase thing's a little, I think I'm being a bit confusing.  We have 5 desktop computers that sit in a warehouse, its very difficult to pull a network cable so they have wireless cards.  The users are people that update items in a database, they all have roaming profiles.  The problem lies in them being un-able to log onto the windows domain because at the 'Ctrl-Alt-Dlt' screen the wireless connection hasn't started.  So
[08:43] <gnomefreak> dave-0, it doesnt matter apt will still work it willuse the cdrom repo to grab packages
[08:43] <thegladiator> ny one who has installde kde having problems like KDEInit cannot open ?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> apt does more than install and remove things too
[08:44] <odat> another question
[08:44] <textshell> hikenboot: in the extren case log in as root for the installation...
[08:44] <jenda> Can anyone help me resolve an error in dvd:rip? ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6540 )
[08:44] <blue-frog> Jonc101, with freenx... log on to windows, start freenx clients, at that stage they work on the windows machine which holds the freenx server..
[08:44] <odat> if i have an amd should i pick the K7 kernel or go to the 686?
[08:44] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, one doubt whats the gnome font ?
[08:44] <hikenboot> textshell: I believe it does but it automates the cups setup..which is easier for me because i dont want to spend six hours manually configuring cups
[08:44] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, which one does it use?
[08:44] <ScootaDoota> Jonc101: i'm sure the wireless connection should be up and running before the user logs in
[08:44] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, not sure
[08:45] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[08:45] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:45] <blue-frog> Jonc101, so no roaming profile needed, the profiles are kept on the machine with freenx server
[08:45] <dave-0> gnome, I'm aiming at configuring to use apt without a workaround like using the cdrom as the repository.
[08:45] <odat> tonyyarusso, sup
[08:45] <thegladiator> thanks...thats something else though:)
[08:45] <dave-0> but basically... *basically* it oughta just be a matter of editing sources.list, right?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> dave-0, you want to add repos and # out the cd rom but that is not configuring apt  apt gets configured at end of install
[08:46] <Jonc101> scoota: thats the thing, it doesnt start, and it SET to start in services.msc but it doesnt thats the bug.  and because im using PEAP and 802.1x authentication (which is user dependant) i am unable to establish the wireless connection.  the wireless connection does work AFTER you've loggged on with cached logon credentials
[08:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dave-0 about sources
[08:46] <odin> how do I make it so a specific user doesn't need the root password for sudo?
[08:46] <hikenboot> textshell: it appears to be stupid it doesnt like the root username and password being passed to it nor does it take the sudo user user name and password
[08:47] <dave-0> gnome, good deal.
[08:47] <revmoo> add them to wheel group i think
[08:47] <odin> I remember it has something to do with visudo
[08:47] <XiCillin> odin: the point of sudo is that you don't need the root password
[08:47] <hikenboot> textshell: its the linux-config...component of the install
[08:47] <MaEmtXtoR> need some help, i downloaded a rpm file and want to install it
[08:47] <ScootaDoota> Jonc101: good old windows!.....do these clients have to run Windows...you can't migrate them to Linux?
[08:47] <MaEmtXtoR> sugesttions
[08:47] <mwe> odin: sudo asks for the _users_ password
[08:47] <odin> XiCillin: Huh?  You don't need the root password for sudo?  hmmn...We must be running different versions of ubuntu
[08:47] <Jonc101> blue-frog: how does this nx server work?
[08:47] <revmoo> MaEmtXtoR, use alien
[08:48] <blue-frog> Jonc101, what happens if they log in and log out, is the wifi connection still working?
[08:48] <Subsonix> where do i get a good and comprehensive ubuntu guide/faq?
[08:48] <MaEmtXtoR> can u tell me the command
[08:48] <Jonc101> scoota: yea unfortunately they run projectwise,a  windows only app
[08:48] <odin> mwe: Well, either way...root/user pass are the same
[08:48] <textshell> hikenboot: i don't know the samsung installer... Last time i installed a printer the vendor suppled drivers were pure crap
[08:48] <kemik> Subsonix:  the wiki
[08:48] <revmoo> no, i dont remember the command, use man
[08:48] <mwe> odin: no
[08:48] <Subsonix> kemik: url?
[08:48] <Jonc101> blue-frog: yes that will work but if we reboot then we have the same problem
[08:48] <odin> mwe: But how do I make it run without the prompt
[08:48] <mwe> odin: root has no password in ubuntu
[08:48] <kemik> Subsonix:  wiki.ubuntu.org i think :)
[08:48] <kemik> !wiki
[08:48] <XiCillin> odin: nah, when i sudo apt-get something i type in my password not the root password
[08:48] <mwe> odin: you don't
[08:48] <kemik> ubotu:  ?! wake up
[08:48] <ubotu> kemik: I give up, what is it?
[08:48] <odin> mwe: Ok, fine...I'll find it elsewhere
[08:49] <dave-0> well, that is certainly an example of sources.list, but still, configuration of apt shouldn't involve anything *more* than editing sources.list, right?
[08:49] <hikenboot> it seems to work great on every other distro...much better than standard install methods..this seems to be the only problem anyways config-linux i think isnt part of the printer
[08:49] <hikenboot> i think it comes with linux but not sure
[08:49] <XiCillin> sudo user is a user that can run commands as root using HIS/HER password and sudo
[08:49] <kemik> Subsonix:  wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> odat: Not much new.
[08:49] <mwe> odat: why would you try ro turn off security?
[08:49] <textshell> dave-0: apt has a lot more configuration files ;)
[08:49] <warreng> what's the linux command to convert a file back and forth between unix line breaks, mac line braeks and dos line breaks?
[08:49] <blue-frog> Jonc101, if it works you should teach them to do it, will the better stuff to do (except if microsoft finds out a solution)
[08:49] <Tobbe> Hi, I've been trying to install MythTV on my Ubuntu box today. Apperently there is no support for amd64 in the repositories, so I have to compile it my self. But when I run this command: "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" I get an error saying: "/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: Permission denied". What does that mean, and what do I have to do to fix it?
[08:50] <blue-frog> Jonc101, freenx is vnc like program except it is faster and secured by default
[08:50] <Seveas> Tobbe, it means you have to do chmod +x debian/rules
[08:50] <Tobbe> thanks
[08:50] <textshell> warreng: there a programm called dos2unix ... i don't know about mac...
[08:51] <Jonc101> blue-frog, i dont think its applicable in this situation because the apps are windows based and are on pc's not dumb terminals :(
[08:51] <mwe> warreng: sed would do it. I don't remember the exact command though so I guess it's not much help
[08:51] <blue-frog> Jonc101, then teach them to log oout log in..
[08:52] <skon> What's the best streaming video server for ubuntu, anyone have an idea?
[08:52] <Jonc101> what about XEN, would that help me in this ituation?
[08:53] <Jonc101> blue-frog, they already log in and out.
[08:53] <blue-frog> Jonc101, then it's the best so.lution they have..
[08:53] <deemo> hey guys, i know this is the ubuntu channel, but the kubuntu people arent responding and im hoping you could help me out. Is there any way to allow connections to krfb through the terminal?
[08:53] <S0m3_1> hey
[08:54] <mwe> warreng: oh yes. sed -i 's/.$//' file.txt would convert CR/LF to CR only
[08:54] <ScootaDoota> can anyone recommend me a goo LDAP frontend?
[08:54] <MaEmtXtoR> well, i have a choice of Red Hat Package,Debian,FreeBSD package, wich do i use for ubuntu
[08:55] <Crazy_Man> Debian
[08:55] <MaEmtXtoR> tnx
[08:55] <winston> hello, noob question perhaps ---> Looking to send mail through evolution... should I activate smtpd or what? (and how?)
[08:55] <polpak> MaEmtXtoR, what is the package?
[08:55] <Jonc101> winston, only if u run a mail server on ur machine
[08:55] <blue-frog> winston, use your provider's smtp
[08:55] <Jonc101> winston: if its internet mail then use ur ISP's info
[08:56] <Blippe> !users
[08:56] <ubotu> Blippe: Not a clue
[08:56] <Jonc101> just out of curiosity, how does ubuntu behave with the atheros wireless nic?  does it support it or do i have to install mad-wifi?
[08:57] <Seveas> Jonc101, madwifi is installed by the installer
[08:57] <Jonc101> seveas u mean by the ubuntu installer?
[08:57] <Seveas> yes
[08:57] <Jonc101> sounds good then.  ill try ubuntu with my 'experiment'
[08:57] <polpak> Jonc101, what experiment?
[08:58] <Jonc101> my lil windowsxp/vmware/linux experiment
[08:58] <LabThug> Does anyone in here use CPAN?
[08:58] <marcin`> hello guys
[08:58] <polpak> LabThug, I have used it yes
[08:58] <sorush20> guys do I need dma for sata drives?
[08:59] <LabThug> polpak, I was trying to install DBI, and make threw up a bunch of C++ errors.  Have you seen this?
[08:59] <marcin`> question - is this possible to reconfigure linux and change
[08:59] <polpak> LabThug, you probably need the c++ compiler
[08:59] <LabThug> I have 4.xxx
[08:59] <marcin`> default ctrl+alt+F1...n keybinding
[08:59] <polpak> LabThug, oh. then it depends on what the errors are
[08:59] <marcin`> and use some other keys to switch between ttys ?
[08:59] <polpak> LabThug,  what module are you installing
[08:59] <blue-frog> LabThug, install gcc3.4 export the path and try again CPAN to see what it does..
[08:59] <LabThug> was trying to install DBI
[09:00] <polpak> LabThug, I think it's already in the ubuntu repos
[09:00] <blue-frog> LabThug, or have a look in synaptic to see if it is there (universe)
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> How does Ubuntu decide how and when to use swap space?  It never seems to be using very much to me, and I was wondering if using more would free up more memory/speed thing up.
[09:00] <deemo> hey guys, i know this is the ubuntu channel, but the kubuntu people arent responding and im hoping you could help me out. Is there any way to allow connections to krfb through the terminal?
[09:01] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, swap is used when no more ram
[09:01] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, u don't wnat swap to be used as it is slower than ram
[09:01] <polpak> tonyyarusso, the kernel uses swap space when you run low on ram or for suspended programs
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, polpak: So it won't be taken advantage of until RAM maxes out?
[09:01] <LabThug> libclass-dbi-perl  <---Is that the one I should install?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> there are a bunch of dbi things mostly libs
[09:02] <deemo> also, how can i see a list of all the users that are registered on the computer through the terminal?
[09:02] <polpak> LabThug, I'm checking. One sec
[09:02] <osh_> Is there a known problem with suspend-to-disk? It worked on my old laptop but not on my new one.It freezes during boot when restarting it.
[09:02] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  using swap is *bad*
[09:02] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, swap will allow u to have a working computer if you're running out of ram
[09:02] <GnarlyBob> deemo: cat /etc/passwd
[09:02] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  its tens of thousands times slower than ram
[09:02] <deemo> gnarlybob thanks!
[09:03] <GnarlyBob> of course, that will show users that are not actual people, but accounts used for the system
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> kemik, blue-frog: Ah, okay.  (Coming from Windows, where there is not such thing.)
[09:03] <deemo> gnarlybob, rght thats what i needed
[09:03] <GnarlyBob> but will show the actual users too.
[09:03] <C-O-L-T> I AM BACK
[09:03] <LabThug> tonyyarusso: windows uses pagefile.sys for it's swap space
[09:03] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, same in windows
[09:03] <gnomefreak> dbi shell should install the libs for dbi i would think anyway
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> LabThug, Oh.  That would be the thing that kept getting huge right before Windows would crash on the other computer.
[09:04] <LabThug> dbi shell?  Thanks
[09:04] <gnomefreak> LabThug, thats a guess
[09:04] <polpak> tonyyarusso,  check out http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html
[09:04] <globe> is there an audio player that will support streaming .pls files?
[09:04] <blue-frog> deemo, terminal    who
[09:04] <gnomefreak> dbishell interactive sql shell with readline support
[09:04] <LabThug> gnomefreak: I'll install that and the other one I pointed out, between them I should get it
[09:05] <LabThug> globe: xmms
[09:05] <Venson> globe, pls is just a playlist...
[09:05] <globe> Venson, I know, but the ubuntu native doesnt stream....it just errors out.
[09:05] <polpak> LabThug, it's libdbi-perl I believe
[09:05] <globe> LabThug, thats the one I was looking for, thx.
[09:05] <LabThug> polpak, thanks
[09:05] <polpak> LabThug, and actually
[09:06] <gnomefreak> <<<doesnt have a libdbi-perl
[09:06] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:06] <Venson> globe, maybe because you're missing the mp3 plugin...i'm guessing you're streaming some mp3s
[09:06] <polpak> LabThug, as a general rule any module in CPAN
[09:06] <polpak> LabThug, which is like Text::CSV would be libtext-csv-perl
[09:06] <PeteyPablo> can anyone tell me with an ipod if you have to use itunes to transfer music to it?
[09:06] <globe> Venson, good thought.  How do I check that?
[09:07] <LabThug> polpak, thanks for that info.  I'm just starting out with perl, so I'm happy to hear that
[09:07] <D1> PeteyPablo: on linux?
[09:07] <polpak> LabThug, sorry to hear it =p
[09:07] <gnomefreak> libembperl-perl looks like a  website builder for perl
[09:07] <LabThug> :-D
[09:07] <MaEmtXtoR> i want to install Yahoo Messaner on Ubuntu, but there is only for RedHat,Debian,FreeBSD and i cannot use any of that
[09:07] <PeteyPablo> D1: if i buy an ipod nano will i be able to transfer music to it from ubuntu?
[09:07] <polpak> LabThug, Is this for work, or just for fun?
[09:07] <D1> oh
[09:07] <D1> yeah
[09:07] <MaEmtXtoR> any other suggestions
[09:07] <polpak> MaEmtXtoR, just use gaim?
[09:07] <D1> theres various utils for that
[09:07] <PeteyPablo> D1: ok thanks
[09:07] <D1> uhm
[09:07] <D1> I cant recall the name
[09:08] <LabThug> polpak: work.  I'm taking over for a guy that only coded in perl
[09:08] <PeteyPablo> !ipod
[09:08] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[09:08] <tipnmo> Hello
[09:08] <D1> there ya go.
[09:08] <PeteyPablo> D1: found the wiki thanks
[09:08] <polpak> LabThug, ah. Cause otherwise I'd suggest taking a peek at python
[09:08] <GnarlyBob> you're probably better off for it
[09:08] <tipnmo> quick question, how do run a .run file
[09:08] <GnarlyBob> tipnmo: where'd you get it?
[09:08] <tipnmo> nforce
[09:08] <blue-frog> tipnmo, ./file.run
[09:08] <tipnmo> NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run
[09:09] <polpak> gnomefreak, it's a highly ideosyncratic language. It works well, but it's not terribly fun to write for =p
[09:09] <cvt|gnuyear> Why can't i load synaptic?
[09:09] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, what's the error?
[09:09] <GnarlyBob> chmod +x NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run && ./NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run
[09:09] <cvt|gnuyear> polpak, "conversion with su failed"
[09:09] <blue-frog> tipnmo, better try ubuntu nvidia driver first (nforce is nvidia right?)
[09:09] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, use sudo not su
[09:10] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, i'm loading it from the icon
[09:10] <MaEmtXtoR> tnx a lot
[09:10] <polpak> MaEmtXtoR, sure thing
[09:10] <tipnmo> blue-frog: i didnt realize ubuntu had a driver for the nforce3 250 chipset, would it be in the repos.?
[09:10] <miguel> hola
[09:11] <miguel> alguen saba como instaar un vpn server
[09:11] <blue-frog> tipnmo, id on't know if it has for nforce but u can have a look at nvidia-glx in synaptic
[09:11] <rightcoast> question, i havent done much with multi media, if i was looking to make avi's into vcd with ubuntu (or any distro), would avidemux be the tool to use?
[09:11] <Seveas> !es
[09:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:11] <Seveas> !pt
[09:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:11] <miguel> cual es el canal en epaol
[09:12] <slibs> hey a little help here, im using xubuntu, i'd need that gnome network gui for setting up my wlan, but i don't know what's the name for it?
[09:12] <blue-frog> miguel, -es
[09:12] <Seveas> slibs, network-admin
[09:12] <odat> hey everyone i installed the 686 kernel and on boot up i get a segmentation fault    any hints?
[09:13] <slibs> Seveas: is that also the name for package if i have to download that with apt-get?
[09:13] <blue-frog> odat, what proc?
[09:13] <odat> blue-frog, celeron 1.7
[09:13] <slibs> seems not to be
[09:14] <zazza> i need help with getting my SD-card reader on my Toshiba Satellite pro m30 laptop
[09:14] <slibs> what about network thing for kde? do you know name for that
[09:14] <blue-frog> odat, no clue should work i think, stick with 386 i guess
[09:14] <tipnmo> blue-frog, nforce is listed there, but the rest are video cards
[09:15] <tipnmo> i am worried that would mess with my ati drivers
[09:15] <slibs> could it be that network-admin is included in gnome-system-tools?
[09:16] <azion> Hey all, was wondering if I could get a bit of help with kubuntu?
[09:16] <slibs> azion: try #kubuntu
[09:16] <blue-frog> tipnmo, then install nvidia-glx (if it lists it) then open terminal   sudo nvidia-glx-config enable    sudo modprobe nvidia  and restart x you will know straight if it works or not..
[09:16] <slibs> but sure you can get help in here too
[09:16] <blue-frog> tipnmo, u have 2 cards?
[09:17] <spy> hi, i downloaded opera and it is now in a opera.deb format.. how do i install it now?
[09:17] <azion> Cheers, I downloaded the packages and rebooted but I'm still using the Gnome desktop
[09:17] <azion> How do I change
[09:17] <polpak> spy, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:17] <azion> The login was kde
[09:17] <blue-frog> azion, at login screen select what u want
[09:17] <rightcoast> azion,  under sessions IIRC
[09:17] <azion> Musn't have looked properly, thanks guys
[09:17] <Tobbe> I'm trying to install MythTV from source. After running "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" I end up with a lot of .deb files. What am I supposed to do with those?
[09:18] <azion> Is Gnome better?
[09:18] <tipnmo> blue-frog, no nforce is the mobo chipset, and i have an ati video card... i think its odd that its there with a bunch of video card chipsets
[09:18] <polpak> azion, it's pretty much personal preference
[09:18] <polpak> azion, try them both, and see which you like best
[09:18] <globe> does anyone think that recompiling xorg from CVS will help my gateway laptop display @ > 800x600 ?
[09:18] <azion> I like the look of KDE, but heard it can be a resource hog
[09:18] <slibs> how can it be that my wlan connection is 102% :D
[09:18] <azion> lol
[09:18] <polpak> azion, kde and gnome are both more resource intensive than (for example) fluxbox
[09:19] <slibs> it's better than best, well that should be enough for even me
[09:19] <polpak> azion, but if it does what you want.. Use it ;)
[09:19] <pi9inE> hello
[09:19] <blue-frog> tipnmo, i don't jnow what will happen if you install nvidia driver..
[09:19] <pi9inE> it's allowed to speak in other lang. as english?
[09:19] <azion> Very true polpak
[09:19] <spy> polpak it talks about dependencies which i dont have   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[09:19] <spy>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[09:19] <blue-frog> tipnmo, try and tell us...
[09:19] <tipnmo> well what i downloaded is a specific nforce package... so i think i will try and install that
[09:19] <azion> Thanks alot guys, your great help
[09:19] <polpak> ubotu tell spy about opera
[09:19] <tipnmo> but ./NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run: command not found'  didnt work
[09:20] <blue-frog> tipnmo nforce is on baord card and ati pci?
[09:20] <pi9inE> guys, i'm completely n00b with linux
[09:20] <pi9inE> maybe I broke something
[09:20] <blue-frog> tipnmo, not sure i follow u..
[09:20] <pi9inE> with instalation
[09:20] <pi9inE> of this distribution?
[09:20] <aran> I just installed and X.org won't start... what should i do?
[09:20] <globe> aran what does it do?
[09:20] <azion> Another quick question, is there a difference between KDE and Gnome apps?
[09:20] <rightcoast> pi9inE, go ahead, what happened?
[09:20] <psycode> how can i convert an rpm package to a deb package or at least install it?
[09:21] <polpak> azion, they use a different graphical toolkit
[09:21] <rightcoast> psycode, alien can do that
[09:21] <psycose> psycode, using alien
[09:21] <pi9inE> psycode: to say the truth, nothing :) i'm thinking about installing this
[09:21] <aran> blue box saying thath it's being disabled until i configure it right
[09:21] <tipnmo> blue-frog, no on board video... my motherboard had the nforce3 250 northbridge chipset, i have an agp ati video card
[09:21] <azion> But will either work on each interface?
[09:21] <blue-frog> psycode, alien, look in synaptic first if u find it
[09:21] <polpak> azion, KDE apps use the QT GUI library, Gnome apps use the GTK libs
[09:21] <pi9inE> psycode: but i'm affraid that I will broke something with this OS i'm using now - XP
[09:21] <polpak> azion, yes, either will work with either
[09:21] <azion> Great, thanks polpak
[09:21] <polpak> azion, you'll just have to have both sets of libs installed
[09:21] <tipnmo> blue-frog,  my motherboard has
[09:21] <blue-frog> tipnmo, then use ati's driver
[09:21] <rightcoast> oh pi9inE, the ubuntu install is almost completely hands off
[09:22] <rightcoast> no worries
[09:22] <tipnmo> blue-frog, i did
[09:22] <pi9inE> rightcoast: so it won't broke my windows? :)
[09:22] <rightcoast> ohh dual booting?
[09:22] <sig> anyone know how to fix the ntp.ubuntulinux.org clock syncronize at startup? mine fails...
[09:22] <blue-frog> tipnmo, and?
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> pi9inE, I installed Ubuntu dual-boot with XP on two computers, and both are fine.
[09:22] <tipnmo> blue-frog, i just want to install the chipset driver, for usb, onboard sound, ect.. ect..
[09:22] <globe> aran ... you need to reconfigure your x server.  I cant remember the command just now, 1 sec
[09:22] <psycose> sig how do you connect to the internet ?
[09:22] <psycode> blue-frog, the package exist for debian only in an old version which doesnt perform what i need, and i cant compile the source..
[09:22] <rightcoast> pi9inE, it can, yes, someone here may know a good dual booting doc for you with ubuntu
[09:23] <sig> dhcp lan
[09:23] <pi9inE> tonyyarusso: ok, that's great, and one quick question? may I burn that .iso as normal bootable CD?
[09:23] <kemik> globe:  dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot
[09:23] <ubotu> well, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[09:23] <globe> aran: thats it!
[09:23] <pi9inE> rightcoast: it would be great if somebody got, i would appreciate that
[09:23] <pi9inE> ubotu: thanks a lot
[09:23] <ubotu> pi9inE: graag gedaan
[09:23] <tipnmo> blue-frog, but i've never come across a .run file so i dont know what to do.. i am very new to linux
[09:23] <globe> aran: what kemik said
[09:23] <pi9inE> i'll take a look
[09:23] <Markbb-> !mp3
[09:23] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:23] <blue-frog> tipnmo, ifthe run file is not a video driver then go for it i guess..
[09:23] <rightcoast> there ya go :D
[09:23] <bluefoxicy> holy crap
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> pi9inE, You mean the install CD that I presume you downloaded?  Yep.
[09:24] <sorush20> anyone here able to play back a dvd with out the edges of the objects being fuzzy any ideas?
[09:24] <bluefoxicy> http://gerona.gov.ph/davidjr/wp-content/themes/plain-vanilla/banner.jpg  <-- ubuntu linux:  Support interracial sex
[09:24] <kemik> globe:  or xserver-xorg :)
[09:24] <kemik> and dont forget sudo
[09:24] <blue-frog> tipnmo, chmod u+x file.run    sudo ./file.run
[09:24] <globe> kemik: you know...I have done that about 5 times this week and still cant remember that cmd
[09:24] <tipnmo> blue-frog, file.run -> NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run
[09:25] <_joshua> hi
[09:25] <kemik> globe:   :)
[09:25] <blue-frog> psycode, use alien then to "translate" the rpm
[09:25] <zAo^> why not use `sh file.run` ?
[09:25] <_joshua> can anyone tell me the package name for macromedia flash player to view websites ?
[09:25] <psycose> sig may be you can change the ntp script prority, so that it launch ntp later ... (do it the ubuntu/debian way)
[09:25] <ale3hs> I connected a monitor to my laptop, and I restarted.. The vision came as I wanted to the external monitor but the resolution is 640x480 and I cant change it from the "screen resolution preferences" ..what can I do ?? plz someone
[09:25] <polpak> ubotu tell _joshua about flash
[09:25] <blue-frog> tipnmo, yes, cd to the folder where it lies first
[09:26] <sig> psycose: I'll figure it out
[09:26] <sig> thanks though
[09:26] <blue-frog> zAo^, whatever u like
[09:26] <tipnmo> zAo^, sh file.run?    sh NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0310-pkg1.run?
[09:26] <zAo^> guess so, yes?
[09:26] <tipnmo> blue-frog, thanks
[09:26] <spy> thanks ubotu
[09:26] <spy> i got opera to work now
[09:26] <polpak> ubotu, tell spy about ubotu
[09:27] <tipnmo> works... thanks for you help
[09:27] <_joshua> i have the repos open, just wondering if anyone knew the package name :p
[09:27] <_joshua> hehe
[09:27] <polpak> _joshua, it's in the wiki. I can't recall atm
[09:27] <_joshua> thanks polpak :)
[09:27] <blue-frog> tipnmo, will it compile with gcc4?
[09:27] <_joshua> ok cool
[09:27] <bluefoxicy> !nasa
[09:27] <ubotu> Wish i knew, bluefoxicy
[09:28] <ale3hs> anyone plz help me, how to adjust the resolution of my monitor??
[09:28] <paulproteus|lapt> _joshua: flashplugin-nonfree ?
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> !resolution
[09:28] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> wow.
[09:28] <pi9inE> guys, pray for me, after my download, going to broke my notebook with first time on linux :)))))
[09:28] <kremonte> is it possible to have gnome and fluxbox live in harmony?
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, tell ale3hs about resolution
[09:28] <pi9inE> *break
[09:28] <zAo^> pi9inE, luck on that m8 :)
[09:28] <pi9inE> zAo^: thanks dude :D
[09:29] <ale3hs> thanx bluefoxicy
[09:29] <bluefoxicy> interesting.
[09:29] <Tobbe> I'm trying to install MythTV from source. After running "sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" I end up with a lot of .deb files. What am I supposed to do with those?
[09:29] <trae> heh
[09:29] <zAo^> Tobbe, install them? sudo dpkg -i *.dev
[09:29] <trae> pi9inE, enjoy :)
[09:29] <pi9inE> trae: I hope I will :))
[09:29] <zAo^> Tobbe,  *.deb
[09:30] <Tobbe> thanks zAo^
[09:30] <rightcoast> Tobbe, sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:30] <trae> pi9inE, just remember, you have to "get your mind right" when using linux.
[09:30] <rightcoast> yep
[09:30] <rightcoast> :D
[09:30] <trae> pi9inE, some things will be easier.  some things will be difficult.
[09:31] <trae> pi9inE, seriously, if you want windows, and windows does everything you want it to, I woudln't switch to Linux.
[09:31] <chapium> hello
[09:31] <zAo^> lo chapium
[09:31] <pi9inE> trae: honestly, to say the truth, i would like to learn something new
[09:31] <trae> I know that probably sounds like backwards thinking in terms of advocacy.... but.
[09:31] <odat> anyone else have problems with the 686 kernel?
[09:31] <chapium> when I reboot my computer, my kernel does not decompress
[09:31] <pi9inE> trae: i'm quite experienced user of Win
[09:31] <pi9inE> i'm looking for adventure
[09:32] <pi9inE> :)
[09:32] <zAo^> odat, what problems?
[09:32] <chapium> but when I cold boot, it does
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> pi9inE, It can be kind of fun.  Just don't get frustrated easily.
[09:32] <psycose> trae windows may be all a use want, but not respect his citizen human rights, so it's may be not enough ....
[09:32] <trae> pi9inE, you'll get adventure :)  Try all the distro's too.. not just Ubuntu.
[09:32] <chapium> what up zAo^
[09:32] <zAo^> Sorry, dont know
[09:33] <trae> pi9inE, also give freebsd a shot.  Ubuntu, I feel is the best of them all.  But... I've used the rest and have (what I think) is an informed opinion.
[09:33] <odat> zAo^, when i tried to update the kernel from 386 to 686 on reboot i keep getting a segmentation fault during boot
[09:33] <pi9inE> guys, thanks, you're kind :)
[09:33] <pi9inE> i'll be here on my desktop
[09:33] <pi9inE> if some problems :)
[09:33] <pi9inE> this would be very long night for me :)))
[09:33] <trae> pi9inE, enjoy :)  Just don't go into this thinking it'll be all roses.
[09:34] <pi9inE> trae I guess i'm prepared for that :)
[09:34] <pi9inE> but nobody know
[09:34] <trae> k
[09:34] <pi9inE> knows if my heart is
[09:34] <pi9inE> :DDD
[09:34] <gnomefreak> x-emacs is different than emacs right?
[09:34] <trae> I remember when I tried to run linux
[09:34] <pi9inE> if i'll loose all my Futurama DVDrips
[09:34] <trae> and it was too hard for me...
[09:34] <pi9inE> i'm gonna die :DD
[09:34] <zAo^> odat, can you boot singleuser? ("recovery mode")
[09:34] <trae> and a friend that uses it said to me "I guess you are just not ready for linux yet"
[09:34] <trae> that sorta pissed me off and made me want to try harder to use it.
[09:34] <trae> Course, this was back in 96'
[09:34] <blue-frog> pi9inE, how many parttions on your laptop?
[09:35] <zona1> excuse me, but im a noob
[09:35] <pi9inE> blue-frog: 2 of them
[09:35] <trae> when 95% of the people who use linux now weren't using it then.
[09:35] <chapium> zonal, you are not alone in here
[09:35] <odat> zAo^, i can boot fine with the old 386 kernel
[09:35] <zona1> and i don't know how i to do for instal PIXMA IP1000 on my computer
[09:35] <pi9inE> zona1: great :) i'm not only here :DD
[09:35] <polpak> pi9inE, just make backups of anything you can't afford to lose
[09:35] <zona1> somebady can help me?
[09:35] <polpak> pi9inE, and you'll be just fine
[09:35] <blue-frog> pi9inE, can u free the second one?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> when linux came out in early-mid 90s it was used in bisness more than home
[09:36] <trae> gnomefreak, nod.
[09:36] <pi9inE> blue-frog: uhm, not sure... may I go for resize option?
[09:36] <trae> gnomefreak, I like to think I was the first Linux "end-user" :)  heh
[09:36] <odat> trae, lol
[09:36] <gnomefreak> lol trae
[09:36] <trae> as I didn't code or do sysadmin stuff I just used it cause it was pretty
[09:36] <trae> :)
[09:37] <zAo^> odat, try recovery mode I'd say
[09:37] <odat> one of the coolest things about linux is discovery and conquest
[09:37] <dimitri> I was on debian and I recently installed ubuntu, I can't get my second screen to work with my laptop one as I use to do, thats my first bugga but worse, how can I mount mac volumes ?? my ubuntu is connected to a LAN with a Mac
[09:37] <odat> zAo^, for what purpose?
[09:37] <trae> odat, and it's most frustrating too.
[09:37] <chapium> zonal, have you tried going through the add printers dialogue in ubuntu yet?
[09:37] <odat> trae, its like golf
[09:37] <trae> odat, I simply want things to "just work"
[09:37] <blue-frog> pi9inE, u can try, to be on the safe side just free the 2nd partition (onto your first and desktop as well and just erase that one when arriving at the partitioning tool during the install
[09:37] <globe> how do I unlock /var/lib/dpkg/ for apt-get installs?  do I have to shutdown X?
[09:37] <dimitri> I have installed netatalk so I can mount my linux home on my mac but how do I do the opposite ?
[09:37] <trae> odat, I'd like the ball to just go in the hole when I look at it.  (to use that analogy)
[09:38] <odat> trae, yea but that is part of the conquest
[09:38] <zAo^> odat, some errors? logs? or try to install 686-smp ?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> was? hell still is very frustrating well at this moment it is
[09:38] <polpak> globe, you have to close synaptic
[09:38] <odat> zAo^, why smp i don't have multiple processors
[09:38] <trae> gnomefreak, :)
[09:38] <globe> plopak, ooooh....that makes complete sense...thx
[09:38] <chapium> zonal, for example - System > Administration > Printing
[09:38] <trae> ok, back to work.
[09:38] <pi9inE> blue-frog: i'm affraid that I won't have that enough space to save completely 2nd partition
[09:38] <dimitri> anyone ?
[09:38] <zAo^> odat, you have HT? well, sorry mate, but I dont know why it doesnt boot. sorry
[09:39] <gnomefreak> and i cant really blame linux for anything its the apps
[09:39] <odat> zAo^, k
[09:39] <spy> polpak: have a chat with me
[09:39] <gnomefreak> i thought ubuntu didnt support HT yet
[09:39] <polpak> gnomefreak, indeed, I can count the kernel panic's I've had on 2 fingers, and all of them were due to hardware failures
[09:39] <polpak> spy, about?
[09:39] <blue-frog> pi9inE, buy a new HDD and put it on your desktop then
[09:40] <pi9inE> blue-frog: i didn't got you
[09:40] <pi9inE> before :D
[09:40] <pi9inE> now clear for me
[09:40] <pi9inE> you mean to save at desktop PC
[09:40] <pi9inE> :)
[09:40] <pi9inE> there is enough space :D
[09:40] <azion> How do I restup links to commands?
[09:40] <kremonte> where does ubuntu by default keep .xsession to start gnome? (there is none in ~/)
[09:40] <spy> ubotu, is he a bot?
[09:40] <ubotu> Wish i knew, spy
[09:40] <blue-frog> pi9inE, thought so..
[09:40] <spy> hehe, he is
[09:41] <dimitri> anyone ?
[09:41] <spy> ubotu tell me about opera
[09:41] <gnomefreak> !bot
[09:41] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:41] <pi9inE> Do NOT play with me in any channel. - great one :)))))))))))0
[09:41] <spy> hehe, i dont hang arund in irc channels so lol this is very ammusing for me
[09:41] <polpak> !botsnak
[09:41] <ubotu> polpak: I give up, what is it?
[09:41] <polpak> !botsnack
[09:41] <ubotu> :)
[09:42] <spy> ubotu i love u
[09:42] <ubotu> I don't know, spy
[09:42] <MaEmtXtoR> need some help again, i want from my ubuntu to login or see the shared files on my XP, connected in LAN
[09:42] <gnomefreak> we need to teach him typos
[09:42] <spy> oh
[09:42] <spy> well nonetheless hes bloody cool
[09:42] <spy> it even inspires me to consider trying something like that
[09:42] <kremonte> where does ubuntu by default keep .xinitrc to start gnome? =X
[09:42] <blue-frog> MaEmtXtoR, xp pro or personal?
[09:42] <polpak> MaEmtXtoR, sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k
[09:42] <bluefoxicy> damn
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> xpde isn't in ubuntu
[09:43] <MaEmtXtoR> pro
[09:43] <bluefoxicy> I wanted to freak people out.
[09:43] <polpak> bluefoxicy, xpde ?
[09:43] <MaEmtXtoR> blue-frog, pro
[09:43] <gnomefreak> what is xpde?
[09:43] <spacey_ki> bluefoxicy, i don't think xpde is maintained anyway
[09:43] <blue-frog> MaEmtXtoR, then in nautilus type  smb://your-windows-pc-name/c$
[09:43] <spy> who helped me with wine earlier?
[09:43] <spacey_ki> gnomefreak, some xp like DE
[09:43] <polpak> spy,  me
[09:44] <gnomefreak> whats a de?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:44] <polpak> MaEmtXtoR, the only problem with using nautilus is that your CLI apps can't see the shares
[09:44] <spacey_ki> desktop environment
[09:44] <azion> polpak, could you help me again please?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> i feel stupid today
[09:44] <blue-frog> MaEmtXtoR, then type your windows administrator name (administrator) and password and u will have access to c and so on
[09:44] <spy> hehe, i re did it all and it seems i missed alot of stuffies to install .. hehe
[09:44] <polpak> azion, that's what I'm here for =p
[09:44] <pi9inE> guys, will this distribution install my HW completely by itself?
[09:44] <polpak> pi9inE, it should
[09:44] <spacey_ki> gnomefreak, http://www.xpde.com/ ;)
[09:44] <polpak> pi9inE, if it can
[09:44] <azion> Cheers, Im having a problem with links for an app I installed
[09:44] <spacey_ki> Brr :)
[09:44] <gnomefreak> ty
[09:44] <pi9inE> polpak: ok :D
[09:45] <pi9inE> any experience with HP Compaq nc6000 and instalations?
[09:45] <polpak> blue-frog, have you seen smb4k ?
[09:45] <polpak> azion, what's the trouble?
[09:45] <blue-frog> polpak, yes but i don't bother as with xp pro i have access to all drives thru nautils
[09:45] <AIV> is GAIM the messenger I can use to replace MSN Messenger?
[09:45] <pi9inE> guys, I wonder where from is coming that much of patience? :)
[09:45] <AIV> or was it another?
[09:45] <paranoier> yes aiv
[09:46] <Tomcat_> AIV: Yes.
[09:46] <AIV> thank you
[09:46] <polpak> blue-frog, yeah, but unless you copy the stuff to your drives locally many other apps can't access the files
[09:46] <azion> polpak, I installed an app in Gnome, it was a make file. It setup a link so I could type "app" in terminal, now in KDE those links are gone
[09:46] <paranoier> ive got another question how can i chage my charset for gnome?
[09:46] <Belboz99> hey, I'm having trouble installing shorten from source, the make check passes all three tests just fine, it's the make install that I'm having problems with, any ideas?
[09:46] <kremonte> where does ubuntu by default keep .xinitrc to start gnome? =X
[09:46] <azion> polpak, when I type the app name I get no such file or directory
[09:47] <polpak> azion, yeah  they don't share menu
[09:47] <blue-frog> polpak, generally if i need to use windows file i use windows, but you're right otherwise...
[09:47] <spy> he ubontu reminds me of Fith Element.. Where the priest goes on and on about the girl and then hes like "no what i mean?", and the bar tender( a bot) replies.. no
[09:47] <polpak> azion, can you find the program from the terminal?
[09:47] <azion> polpak, I was starting it from terminal/shell in Gnome
[09:47] <azion> polpak, yes it's in my home dir
[09:47] <polpak> azion, oh.
[09:47] <azion> polpak, with desktop dir
[09:48] <Belboz99> mkdir: `/usr/local/man/man1' exists but is not a directory
[09:48] <Belboz99> make[2] : *** [install-man1]  Error 1
[09:48] <polpak> azion, make a directory in your home called bin
[09:48] <Belboz99> anyone know what those errors mean and how to fix them?
[09:48] <polpak> azion, and move it into there
[09:48] <schuess> can anyone help with a wireless pcmcia installation?
[09:48] <azion> polpak, whats the command to move stuff?
[09:48] <polpak> mv
[09:49] <polpak> MaEmtXtoR, you can also access your network from the 'Places' menu under network servers
[09:49] <azion> polpak, ok done
[09:49] <ZiX_> yay, im unbanned ^_^
[09:49] <MaEmtXtoR> tnx all
[09:50] <polpak> blue-frog, yeah.. I tend to use smb drives to share stuff between systems.. But none of my comps use windows. Just samba on linux
[09:50] <gnomefreak> that looks wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much like windows for me :((
[09:50] <schuess> can anyone help with a wireless pcmcia installation?
[09:50] <polpak> azion, ok, now you need to edit your .bashrc and your .bash_profile files
[09:50] <Comrade_Vladimir> is there a novell client for linux
[09:50] <azion> polpak, ok, going out of my depth here. Is that hard? Im new to linux
[09:51] <polpak> gedit .bashrc .bash_profile
[09:51] <polpak> azion, from within your home directory
[09:51] <gnomefreak> polpak, there is an easier way to do that i found out :))
[09:51] <polpak> gnomefreak, oh?
[09:51] <polpak> azion, do you have the files open?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> take the saved bash file you wrote and mv it to usr/local/bin/username
[09:52] <azion> polpak, yes
[09:52] <mark__> !tell me about win32codecs
[09:52] <Blippe> !win32codecs
[09:52] <ubotu> win32codecs is, like, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:52] <ibmnotebook> who knows how to use an extended desktop on a second monitor?
[09:52] <polpak> azion, ok go to the bottom of .bash_profile and you should see a line like  # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
[09:52] <gnomefreak> if you save the file without the sh at end you can than run file just type in the name
[09:52] <ZondeR> let's imagine it is written "make sure you have openGL", what package should I install?
[09:53] <azion> polpak, Ypu
[09:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> will samba work as a novekk client with ubuntu
[09:53] <polpak> azion, ok, now there should be 3 lines below that
[09:53] <gnomefreak> <<learned using abs :))
[09:53] <polpak> azion, if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then
[09:53] <polpak> azion, etc
[09:53] <Comrade_Vladimir> hold on ill rbe rite back as sergei
[09:53] <polpak> azion, to the fi line
[09:54] <azion> polapk, Yup
[09:54] <Blippe> ibmnotebook i did
[09:54] <polpak> azion, just cut all 4 lines from that file and paste them to the bottom of your .bashrc file
[09:54] <ibmnotebook> blippe with wich tool?
[09:54] <ibmnotebook> Blippe with wich tool?
[09:54] <Comrade_Sergei> ok
[09:54] <Blippe> two seconds, i'll try to figure it out!
[09:55] <arango> hi
[09:55] <azion> polpak,Doe
[09:55] <ibmnotebook> Blippe and: my second monitor has another resolution...
[09:55] <ibmnotebook> Blippe notebook with 1400 x 1050, 2nd 1600 x 1200
[09:55] <polpak> azion, ok save both files
[09:56] <polpak> azion,  and close the window
[09:56] <arango> i update my ubuntu from hoary to breezy
[09:56] <Blippe> ibmnotebook, try to read up on xinerama
[09:56] <azion> polpak, Okay
[09:56] <leefdaddy> man, windows is a lot easier to use :)
[09:56] <slumpy> why cant i wrte to bin folder?
[09:56] <arango> and now don't detect usb ports
[09:56] <ibmnotebook> Blippe thk you!
[09:56] <arango> any idea?
[09:56] <pi9inE> god, stay with me :)
[09:57] <pi9inE> 1h 30m to go :D
[09:57] <polpak> azion, now if you close your terminal and reopen it, your bin directory should be part of your path
[09:57] <mark__> where can I get win32codecs from?
[09:57] <zazza> can someone get me his copy of  /etc/apt/source.list for Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) it seems i have messed up mine at its now hoary
[09:57] <polpak> !wincodecs
[09:57] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, polpak
[09:57] <slumpy> how do  i give myself owner privileges???
[09:57] <polpak> !win32codecs
[09:57] <ubotu> win32codecs is probably binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:57] <thegladiator> how can I reinstall amarok ?
[09:57] <Crazy_Man> actually
[09:57] <paranoier> delete and install new?
[09:57] <thegladiator> I am on KDE now...but its nto working , the amrok , as it did in gnome
[09:57] <arango> wiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats
[09:57] <slumpy> why cant i wrte to bin folder?
[09:57] <Crazy_Man> w32codecs are available through the plf repos
[09:57] <polpak> mark__, there are some debs listed on the restricted formats wiki also
[09:57] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get --reinstall install amarok
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> zazza, Can you tell me how to send a file with XChat?
[09:57] <Kyral> slumpy: because you aren't supposed to
[09:57] <azion> polpak, How do you mean by path?
[09:58] <paranoier> tonyyarusso, click on the nick and push send file?#
[09:58] <polpak> azion, if you type your program name now it should work
[09:58] <Blippe> ibmnotebook, you will have to screw around with /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[09:58] <Crazy_Man> why doesn't everyone use the plf repos? it saves a lot of work....
[09:58] <Blippe> so look for xorg.conf and xinerama
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> paranoier, Thanks.
[09:58] <slumpy> oh c'mon!!!! i need to upgrade my graphics driver!!
[09:58] <polpak> Crazy_Man, cause we like to be 'official'
[09:58] <Kyral> slumpy: the folders outside /home are restricted to the SuperUser for a good reason
[09:58] <Crazy_Man> polpak, Why?
[09:58] <Kyral> slumpy: what driver?
[09:59] <polpak> ubotu tell slumpy about patience
[09:59] <zazza> tonyyarusso, thanks
[09:59] <polpak> slumpy, what are you trying to do?
[09:59] <slumpy> video card driver i815
[09:59] <polpak> azion, did it work?
[09:59] <spy> please can sum1 tell me how to force refresh rate to 85
[09:59] <spy> 60herts is killing me
[09:59] <Kyral> slumpy: IIRC there hasn't been an upgrade released for that
[09:59] <azion> polpak, I got tap: connect() failed 2 (No such file or directory)
[10:00] <arango> mark__ search under synaptic w32codecs
[10:00] <arango> or apt-get install w32codecs
[10:00] <slumpy> cuz i have those stupid vertical lines running
[10:00] <dcode> does dapper flight2 include the ubuntu-express installer?
[10:00] <Kyral> dcode: I don';t think so
[10:00] <Kyral> dcode: I could be wrong
[10:00] <polpak> arango, I don't think it's in the repos
[10:00] <slumpy> and it starts to flash even more when theres montion on screen
[10:00] <polpak> arango, you have to download the deb separately
[10:00] <dcode> Kyral...thnx
[10:01] <Kyral> slumpy: are you sure you are using the right driver?
[10:01] <arango> i see the w32codecs under my list
[10:01] <azion> ataq, Type my name followed like this to come up red
[10:01] <Comrade_Sergei> is there a novell client for ubuntu?
[10:01] <Kyral> dcode: work on Ubuntu-Express is to start this month or so I have heard
[10:01] <slumpy> i guess... its the newest i found..
[10:01] <polpak> azion, well it looks like it tried to run, but failed on something else
[10:01] <ataq> azion, thanks for the tip!
[10:01] <Kyral> slumpy: what GFX card do you have?
[10:01] <arango> any way this it's the page:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3
[10:01] <dcode> Kyral, I see..
[10:02] <dcode> is there a way to bypass a certain stage of the installer?
[10:02] <Kyral> dcode: but I could be wrong. I'm not on the team
[10:02] <azion> polpak, I know it needs a driver called TCN/TAP to run, but under Gnome there was no probs
[10:02] <Kyral> dcode: like?
[10:02] <dcode> I'm trying to install dapper from a USB thumbdrive
[10:02] <polpak> azion, what program is it?
[10:02] <slumpy> intel 815 chipset graphics controller
[10:02] <azion> ataq, Theres' a bot here called Ubuntu
[10:02] <mikul> weeei! photoshop 7 is now installing!
[10:02] <Kyral> dcode: ICK! Goodluck
[10:02] <mikul> :D
[10:02] <dcode> if I mount it under /cdrom, the installer insists on searching for the cdrom..
[10:02] <polpak> azion, ubotu actually
[10:02] <azion> polpak, hamachi
[10:02] <dcode> it didn't do this under breezy
[10:02] <Kyral> slumpy: select the i810 driver
[10:03] <up> hello
[10:03] <Kyral> dcode: It worked on Breezy?
[10:03] <dcode> err..whatever the last release was
[10:03] <Kyral> Hoary?
[10:03] <dcode> yeah
[10:03] <azion> polpak, It needs TUN/TAP to run
[10:03] <Kyral> I had no idea that it worked period lol
[10:03] <dcode> 5.10
[10:03] <dcode> heh
[10:03] <dcode> well..it kinda worked
[10:03] <slumpy> ok ill try, but theres no point in it cuz I STILL CANT WRITE TO BIN!
[10:03] <azion> ubotu
[10:03] <Kyral> 5.10 is Breezy
[10:03] <Kyral> slumpy: you don't need to
[10:03] <azion> ubotu, What is linux?
[10:03] <ubotu> azion: what are you talking about?
[10:03] <slumpy> ??
[10:03] <up> i cannot find th floopydrive
[10:03] <Kyral> slumpy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:03] <up> floppy
[10:04] <azion> ubotu, How old are you?
[10:04] <slumpy> so...  how i instal it then?
[10:04] <ubotu> azion: I think you lost me on that one
[10:04] <Comrade_Sergei> azion ???
[10:04] <Kyral> slumpy: install what?
[10:04] <slumpy> THE DRIVER!
[10:04] <Comrade_Sergei> its an os
[10:04] <azion> Comrade_Sergei, Yes
[10:04] <dcode> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:04] <arango> I install printer from manager (detected under usb port) but when printing i have "Unable to open USB device "usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ": No such device"
[10:04] <dcode> I followed those directions and it worked on Breezy
[10:04] <Kyral> slumpy: you shouldn't have too. The i810 driver is already installed
[10:04] <AIV> the last time I  was running 5.10, it was checking for updates the way Windows does, like automatic updates, my question is where do I configure to either happen or not happen, and what is smarter of the two, is it safe to just trust these auto updates?
[10:04] <ataq> how do I set the monitor refresh rate in xorg.conf?
[10:04] <Comrade_Sergei> so is there a novell client for linux cause i cant seem to find one
[10:04] <azion> ataq, You there?
[10:04] <Kyral> AIV: turn it off lol
[10:05] <polpak> slumpy, there's a good reason you can't write to bin
[10:05] <mark__> Does anyone have a deb pacake for win32codecs?
[10:05] <mark__> package*
[10:05] <Kyral> ubotu: tell mark__ about w32codecs
[10:05] <ataq> azion,  I am YA!
[10:05] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[10:05] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[10:05] <pi9inE> how much GB will take me installation of Ubuntu?
[10:05] <slumpy> ok, lets say  its installed , but i still need to fix those flashing vertical lines
[10:05] <azion> ataq, By any chance are you going to town during the day tomorrow?
[10:05] <arango> mark__ go to "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp3" you will find w32codecs
[10:05] <gnomefreak> under 10
[10:05] <Kyral> pi9inE: about 3-4
[10:05] <dbecker> Anyone out there using LVM on RAID?
[10:05] <Kyral> slumpy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:05] <azion> polpak, Any ideas?
[10:06] <pi9inE> Kyral: and installations files will delete itself?
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> AIV: I have mine give the little "update available" icon, but not actually do it.
[10:06] <ataq> azion,  Man I dount I'll wake till about 3!!
[10:06] <Kyral> pi9inE: install files?
[10:06] <polpak> azion, nope.. I don't have any experience with that
[10:06] <Blippe> pi9inE: I would try to have around 5 gigs for ubuntu
[10:06] <azion> ataq, Okay
[10:06] <polpak> azion, sorry
[10:06] <Kyral> pi9inE: you realize this is an OS...
[10:06] <Kyral> pi9inE: not a Windows app...
[10:06] <gnomefreak> yes the install cleans up after itself
[10:06] <ataq> azion,  Why
[10:06] <arango> I install printer from manager (detected under usb port) but when printing i have "Unable to open USB device "usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ": No such device"
[10:06] <azion> polpak, Do u think installing TUN/TAP would make a differnce?
[10:07] <pi9inE> Kyral: i mean, i'm reading here an .doc and it says Create a partition for your Ubuntu installation at least 10 Gb
[10:07] <pi9inE> that's why I'm wondering
[10:07] <reticent> !easysource
[10:07] <ubotu> easysource is, like, For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:07] <azion> polpak, It's only since I switched to KDE it's not working
[10:07] <gnomefreak> this is strange :((
[10:07] <Kyral> pi9inE: ehh thats so you have space to add more apps :D
[10:07] <dcode> Kryal, do you know if there's some configuration for debian-installer that I could modify to bypass the check?
[10:07] <Kyral> and your personal files
[10:07] <pi9inE> Kyral: oh OK, sorry, i'm completely n00b :-/
[10:07] <dcode> I assume that's what it's using
[10:07] <Kyral> dcode: *shakes head*
[10:07] <azion> ataq, Got a package today, but they never dropped it into the neighbours
[10:07] <azion> ataq, I have to collect by Friday or they'll send it back
[10:07] <dimitri> anyone ?
[10:08] <Comrade_Sergei> so no novell huh?
[10:08] <ataq> azion,  just make install in the hamachi directory again
[10:08] <azion> ataq, True
[10:08] <arango> I install printer from manager (detected under usb port) but when printing i have "Unable to open USB device "usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ": No such device"
[10:08] <AIV> I will leave it off, but how and when would I know that I need some important updates?  will it just be a case by case bases?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> Comrade_Sergei, what do you want with novell?
[10:08] <Kyral> Where did someone get a .doc for installing Ubuntu...
[10:08] <CarlK> why would glxgears be going at about 1 frame per second?  P3 cpu, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV
[10:08] <AIV> basis I meant to say
[10:08] <azion> ataq, Whats the command for renaming dirs?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> novell is the company that makes suse
[10:08] <CarlK> azion, mv
[10:08] <dbecker> arango, does the printer show up if you type "lsusb"?
[10:08] <Kyral> AIV: just run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade everyday
[10:08] <azion> Carlk, Thank you
[10:09] <Comrade_Sergei> gnomefreak my company runs novell for client and i want to put a linux machine on it
[10:09] <arango> dbecker yes it's shown
[10:09] <dbecker> Arango, That URL doesn't look correct
[10:10] <arango> dbecker before update to Breezy the printer works fine under Hoary
[10:11] <dimitri> is there anyone in LAN with a mac that can tell me how to mount an apple volume ?
[10:11] <dimitri> please
[10:11] <Seveas> dimitri, HFS/HFS+?
[10:11] <CarlK> glxinfo - "direct rendering: No" but I am not sure it ever was on.
[10:11] <dbecker> Not HFS
[10:11] <gnomefreak> ok how do i open eclipse if eclipse in term dont worka nd its not in my menu?
[10:11] <Seveas> dbecker, then what?
[10:11] <dimitri> Seveas: yes
[10:11] <dbecker> dmitri, is your computer set up with Appletalk?
[10:11] <Kyral> gnomefreak: then its broken?
[10:11] <dbecker> HFS is the disk partition type
[10:12] <dimitri> Seveas: I have netatalk but I can only mount my linux home onto the mac, not the way around
[10:12] <Seveas> !tell dbecker about diskmounter
[10:12] <mwe> gnomefreak: what's the error you get trying to start it?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> Kyral, i kind of figured that out :(( damn
[10:12] <Seveas> ah, you mean remotely
[10:12] <gnomefreak> mwe command not found
[10:12] <dimitri> dbecker: well I have netatalk
[10:12] <Seveas> then I don't know
[10:12] <mwe> gnomefreak: um. how did you install it?
[10:12] <dbecker> OK, you have netatalk
[10:12] <tbw> Anyone know how I can get my machine to stop querying my CDROM drive when it doesn't have a disc in it
[10:12] <gnomefreak> but thats ok there is some really weird crap with dapper today
[10:12] <gnomefreak> synaptic
[10:12] <arango> dbecker "lsusb" reports "Bus 002 Device 002: ID 03f0:0f12 Hewlett-Packard
[10:13] <arango> "
[10:13] <dimitri> dbecker: but do I need to set it ?
[10:13] <Kyral> gnomefreak: This is why I didn't upgrade lol
[10:13] <tbw> cuz my log is full of the kernel being mad about there not being a disk
[10:13] <ataq> Hi, can anybody tell me how do I change the refresh Rate of my monitor. Its Locked at 60Hz on 1024 X 768
[10:13] <gnomefreak> lol Kyral
[10:13] <mwe> gnomefreak: find the executeable with dpkg -L then type the full path and then make a shortcut
[10:13] <dbecker> arango, you may be able to manually edit your cups config if the setup tool can't do it for some reason
[10:13] <Kyral> ubotu: tell ataq about fixres
[10:13] <dimitri> dbecker: ?
[10:13] <Comrade_Sergei> is there a novell client for ubuntu?
[10:13] <lucasvo> is there any way how to install ubuntu without a hardrive?
[10:14] <dbecker> dimitri, it's been a while since I've dealt with netatalk
[10:14] <mikul> i get "unable to qontinue because of a hardware or system error. sorry, but this error is unrecoverble." when i start photoshop7 anyone knows why this is? i just installd it with winetools.
[10:14] <Kyral> WIHOUT a harddrive?!
[10:14] <tbw> Comrade_Sergei, : There's an NDP think
[10:14] <Comrade_Sergei> lucasvo why would u do that?
[10:14] <ataq> kyral,  Thanks
[10:14] <arango> dbecker yes i can, any idea addres such /dev/usb/lp0?
[10:14] <dbecker> But IIRC there's a tool to mount the drive, similar to smbmount
[10:14] <gnomefreak> it says its not installed :((
[10:14] <Comrade_Sergei> tbw got a link?
[10:14] <lucasvo> Kyral: oh, sorry I mean CDROM drive
[10:14] <azion> ataq, use xconfigurator
[10:14] <tbw> search for ndp
[10:14] <dimitri> dbecker: what other choices have I ?
[10:14] <Kyral> lucasvo: man alive lol
[10:14] <Kyral> lucasvo: you had me VERY confused
[10:14] <dbecker> arango, check to see if /dev/usb/lp0 exists
[10:14] <mwe> gnomefreak: dpkg -L eclipse-sdk|grep "eclipse$"
[10:14] <Comrade_Sergei> tbw whats it stand for
[10:14] <dimitri> Seveas: how can I mount my linux part on a MAc ?
[10:14] <dbecker> If it does, that's a good bet
[10:14] <arango> dbecker yes exists
[10:14] <tbw> oh
[10:14] <tbw> it's not ndp
[10:14] <tbw> its ncp
[10:14] <tbw> the program is ncpmount
[10:14] <CarlK> is there a way to move apps between um... the 4 work areas?  or whatever they are called
[10:15] <lucasvo> I have a running linux on it, but I don't have a cdrom drive
[10:15] <kremonte> wheres the default xsession startup? can't find ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession
[10:15] <Comrade_Sergei> ok whats it stand for
[10:15] <gnomefreak> mwe i didnt get the sdk
[10:15] <dbecker> dmitri, Macs can mount samba shares, if you want to try going the other direction
[10:15] <tbw> netware control protocol
[10:15] <tbw> I dunno
[10:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: what then?
[10:15] <Comrade_Sergei> o] 
[10:15] <tbw> I used to to authenticate to NDS tree at work
[10:15] <lucasvo> so is there any way how to boot the ubuntu livecd from  harddisk?
[10:15] <tbw> and mount my user shares
[10:15] <gnomefreak> but how did it not install it as depends if i just grabed a plugin?
[10:15] <dbecker> arango, let me look at my cups config
[10:15] <azion> ubotu: tell azion about shell
[10:15] <arango> dbecker ok
[10:15] <gnomefreak> mwe i will let you know when updates are done
[10:15] <gnomefreak> i think it was eclipse-base
[10:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: ok
[10:16] <Comrade_Sergei> tbw is it NDS or ncp
[10:16] <dbecker> arango, I have this in /etc/cups/printers.conf: DeviceURI usb:/dev/usb/lp0
[10:16] <tbw> Comrade_Sergei, : NDS is netware directory services... ncp is the protocol.
[10:16] <Comrade_Sergei> k
[10:16] <dbecker> ncp => tcp as ipx => ip
[10:16] <arango> dbecker will try
[10:17] <dbecker> ncp is the session protocol, running on ipx
[10:17] <dbecker> arango, check what your printers.conf looks like right now
[10:17] <dbecker> If the DeviceURI is wrong it can't see it
[10:17] <arango> as i told you when start
[10:17] <nomin> how well does the ipod work with ubuntu?
[10:17] <psusi> ncp is the file sharing protocol isn't it?  like smb...
[10:17] <zazza> how do i get my sd-card reader on my laptop working
[10:17] <slumpy> so i configured the x server whats next??
[10:18] <rance> could someone tell me about usb scanners recognition in ubuntu,  I have a scanner that is already confirmed to work with SANE but some distros just dont make the scanner available to non-root users (yes Im aware of ubuntus use of the sudo instead of the root account)
[10:18] <Comrade_Sergei> http://www.novell.com/products/edirectory/   tbw?
[10:18] <dbecker> Arango, you can also look at what driver the printer is registered with by doing "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices"
[10:18] <Seveas> zazza, not
[10:18] <psusi> rance: it should work for non root users in ubuntu
[10:18] <slumpy> so i configured the x server whats next??
[10:18] <Seveas> zazza, these things have no linux driver and texas instruments is not interested in creating one.
[10:19] <lowman62> is there a way to install ubuntu from a networked cdrom..the computer I am trying to install on has a burned out unreplaceable cdrom
[10:19] <rance> ok, will im downloading a kubuntu image now, and if it works then Ive got a new distro
[10:19] <lowman62> but it is networked
[10:20] <zazza> Seveas, humm i just have 2 try usb card reader
[10:20] <azion> ataq, You be up for a while
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[10:59] (gnomefreak/#ubuntu) apt-get update only needs to be ran after changing you /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:59] (dbecker/#ubuntu) Jrex: cd /Desktop/makefile/lua50/include && make
[10:59] (Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) I have not been able to make the file yet, dbecker, I have no clue how
[10:59] (Seveas/#ubuntu) Jrex-Linux, what are you compiling?
[10:59] (lightbright/#ubuntu) Seveas: when I load update manager, do I need to click "RELOAD" ?
[10:59] (The_Isle_of_Mark/#ubuntu) !codecs
[10:59] (ubotu/#ubuntu) Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[10:59] (matid/#ubuntu) lightbright: you do not
[10:59] (Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) Seveas, a .so file
[10:59] (dbecker/#ubuntu) What happens if you run make?
[10:59] (The_Isle_of_Mark/#ubuntu) !easysource
[10:59] (ubotu/#ubuntu) [easysource]  For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:59] (matid/#ubuntu) lightbright: until you want to forcefullu update your packages list
[11:00] (matid/#ubuntu) s/forcefullu/forcefully
[11:00] (Epsilon/#ubuntu) anyone?
[11:00] <kremonte> what was the command to start a new window with a different session?
[11:00] (Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) it is not working bash: make: command not found
[11:00] (pawdro/#ubuntu) Seveas: any ideas?
[11:00] (Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) eek
[11:00] (Seveas/#ubuntu) Jrex-Linux, what's the name of the software you are compiling?
[11:00] <Toran> Hey guys, for ssh -X to work, what ports must be open?
[11:00] (Jrex-Linux/#ubuntu) its called lua.so
[11:00] (dbecker/#ubuntu) Jrex: did you install make using synaptic?
[11:00] <Jrex-Linux> *Lua50.so
[11:00] <sachin> Where is the config file located for GRUB
[11:01] <matid> Toran: I guess 23
[11:01] <dbecker> sachin: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:01] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, and what do you need it for?
[11:01] <sachin> oKtosiTe, thanks
[11:01] <dbecker> Seveas: sounds like he doesn't have make installed
[11:01] <Jrex-Linux> My Half life 2 garry's mod server
[11:01] <shadeofgrey> ..
[11:02] <shadeofgrey> okay guys... today is brought to you by the letter R -- for ripper
[11:02] <JoeBlow> can u play half life 2 on linux??
[11:02] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, apt-get install liblua50-dev
[11:02] <Jrex-Linux> I need it to run a bot
[11:02] <Jrex-Linux> an irc relay bot
[11:02] <Seveas> you don't need to compile it manually
[11:02] <rage_> i'm trying to get my duel moniter setup working... i have a howtu but i don't know how to find the pci id of my 2nd vid card
[11:02] <JoeBlow> I just wanna play hl2 dm on linux
[11:02] <Jrex-Linux> hard to explain
[11:02] <shadeofgrey> the one that comes with ubuntu stinks...  anybody know of a great ripper capable of ripping CD's to 320kbps mp3s or higher?
[11:02] <lightbright> Seveas lightbright, because apt-get update downloads the new lists <-- What new lists does it download exactly?
[11:03] <sachin> dbecker: if i change the config file, do i need to run a certian command (like u have to do with lilo) (i have never used grub before)
[11:03] <Seveas> lightbright, lists of what's available
[11:03] <shadeofgrey> if not then how do i add flac readability to my beep-media-player?  so far the only program i know of that will play flac audio is totem...  which i loathe at the same level as windows
[11:03] <Jrex-Linux> basically, I just need to compile a Lua50.so out of one of the linux downloads at: http://luaforge.net/frs/?group_id=110
[11:03] <chapium> anyone here have trouble syncing an ipod nano with banshee?
[11:03] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, hmm, there is bmp-flac i think
[11:03] <Seveas> one sec
[11:03] <kremonte> what was the command to start a new window with a different session? =X
[11:03] <shadeofgrey> whats banshee?
[11:03] <zAo^> who can help me on a locales problem?
[11:03] <Seveas> kremonte, gsmflexiserver --xnest
[11:03] <kremonte> thanks
[11:03] <Seveas> gdm*
[11:04] <Epsilon> hello?
[11:04] <jean> SALUT
[11:04] <jean> HELLO
[11:04] <pawdro> has anyone an idea how to solve my problem?
[11:04] <ompaul> !fr
[11:04] <jean> NO
[11:04] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:04] <Epsilon> can anyone help me with Cedega???
[11:04] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, try ripperx as ripper
[11:04] <ompaul> jean, caps lock is shouting
[11:04] <jean> * I A'M FRENCH
[11:04] <shadeofgrey> okay
[11:05] <Seveas> jean, turn off caps lock
[11:05] <BxL> french are always shouting.
[11:05] <ompaul> BxL, now now
[11:05] <BxL> jean, vien sur #ubuntu-fr
[11:05] <zAo^> who can help me on this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6545
[11:05] <Jrex-Linux> How would I compile a Lua50.so out of one of the linux downloads at: http://luaforge.net/frs/?group_id=110 ?
[11:05] <dbecker> Jrex: you need to install the compile tools
[11:05] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, not
[11:05] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, apt-get install liblua50-dev
[11:05] <dbecker> Jrex: I think it's build-essential
[11:05] <dbecker> Or that :)
[11:05] <jean> I FROM FRANCE
[11:05] <Seveas> you don't need to compile manually
[11:06] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-fr
[11:06] <ompaul> !tell jean about fr
[11:06] <lightbright> Seveas lightbright, via cron <-- whats cron please? :)
[11:06] <Seveas> lightbright, man cron
[11:06] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, why would I need liblua50-dev?
[11:06] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, because you need it :)
[11:06] <madgik85> Sorry, I just need a little more help... How do I find out if I have an Nforce2 chip or not in my motherboard?
[11:06] <Jrex-Linux> Why?
[11:06] <Seveas> that has a precompiled Lua50.so
[11:06] <dbecker> Jrex: that's the pre-compiled version of that file
[11:06] <JoeBlow> how do i increase screen size in mplayer, if i do full screen it shows the video file the same size but just has light purple all around it
[11:06] <Seveas> so you don't have to mess with it
[11:06] <gnomefreak> lol @ why? all night long :))
[11:06] <lightbright> Seveas lightbright, lists of what's available <-- so if thats the case, why dont I need to daily update the new lists available?  You mean "cron" does it automaitcally anyway for me in the background?
[11:07] <Jrex-Linux> but I was told I needed a specific version of Lua50.so
[11:07] <dbecker> JoeBlow: check to see what video driver you're using in mplayer
[11:07] <Epsilon> man
[11:07] <Epsilon> no one helps me
[11:07] <dbecker> Epsilon: missed the original question
[11:07] <gnomefreak> cron runs apps automaticlly at time and date its told to
[11:07] <dbecker> JoeBlow: are you running gmplayer (with the GUI)?
[11:07] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, someone says I need "automake/autoconf"
[11:07] <Epsilon> How do I instal .exe with cedega?
[11:08] <pi9inE> guys, one more little question plz :)
[11:08] <dbecker> Epsilon: cedega is repackaged wine, no?
[11:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: but im only on intenret through modem, at irregular times, so what times does cron do this?
[11:08] <pi9inE> Linux can recognize Win partition?
[11:08] <Epsilon> i think
[11:08] <trappist> dbecker: it's a lot more than just repackaged
[11:08] <pi9inE> or Win can recognize Linux?
[11:08] <Jrex-Linux> how do I get "automake/autoconf" ?
[11:08] <skon> pi9inE: yes, not the other way around
[11:08] <waseem> hi does anyone know any programs i can install that have fm/am radio?
[11:08] <dbecker> Epsilon: in wine, I would do "wine <file.exe>" and it would run it
[11:08] <pi9inE> skon: so Linux can, Win can't
[11:08] <trappist> dbecker: it has piles and piles of support for stuff like directx calls that ye olde wine doesn't have yet
[11:08] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, you need to listen to the people in here and clearly that already is a problem...
[11:09] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Why dont I need to daily update the new lists available via apt-get upate?  You mean "cron" does it automaitcally anyway for me in the background?
[11:09] <Jrex-Linux> what?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> whenever its set to and you have net connection if you man cron it should give you usefull info if not remember uncle-google :))
[11:09] <bnD> can someone help me out
[11:09] <Epsilon> k
[11:09] <skon> pi9inE: yes.
[11:09] <bnD> i need to know how to check a files crc from bash
[11:09] <pi9inE> skon: thanks mighty ;)
[11:09] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, did I miss something? whats the problem?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell lightbright aboutapt
[11:09] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, there is a flac plugin for beep, but there seem to be problems with it
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu telll lightbright about apt
[11:09] <bnD> ubotu crc
[11:09] <lightbright> Seveas: for a person using modem and who is not connected to internet 24/7, how do I know im not missing the date and times cron is doing this?
[11:09] <ubotu> bnD: What?
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> pi9inE, Both are possible, if you have your linux on ext2 or ext3, and install something extra for Windows.  I'll get you a link.
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell lightbright about cron
[11:10] <bnD> can someone pls tell me how to check a files CRC/
[11:10] <Seveas> lightbright, that's why you should subscribe to the security announce lists
[11:10] <pi9inE> tony: thanks mate
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ok nm on the cron one :((
[11:10] <lightbright> Seveas: ok
[11:10] <trappist> bnD: md5sum filename
[11:10] <JoeBlow> how do i know what mplayer driver to use?
[11:10] <dbecker> JoeBlow: xv is preferable
[11:10] <Jrex-Linux> ok, anyways, Seveas , I got apt-get install liblua50-dev
[11:10] <Jrex-Linux> , now where is the lua50.so that I need?
[11:10] <lightbright> Seveas: so when an update is available, its sent to me via email?
[11:10] <trappist> JoeBlow: can't go wrong with xv
[11:10] <dbecker> JoeBlow: right click on the screen and select "preferences"
[11:10] <DimitrisChr> I am considering to buy a notebook. I am between Dell Inspiron 6000 and Ibm Thinkpad z60m. Any advice ( i would like to install ubuntu on it)
[11:10] <Seveas> lightbright, the notification is sent to you via e-mail
[11:10] <bnD> trappist, thanks
[11:11] <ZiX_> i have to go sleep
[11:11] <ZiX_> byebye :o
[11:11] <Seveas> Jrex-Linux, /usr/lib
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> pi9inE, http://fs-driver.org/, and Linux seeing Windows is at !windowsdrives.
[11:11] <Epsilon> where can I download wine?
[11:11] <dbecker> Dmitris: IBM
[11:11] <Jrex-Linux> ah, ok, thanks Seveas
[11:11] <skon> anyone know how to output multiple files from the streamer program?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Epsilon about wine
[11:11] <JoeBlow> shit mplayer gives me alot of errors, like new face failed or something
[11:11] <Seveas> bnD, with cksum
[11:11] <pi9inE> tony: thx again
[11:11] <lightbright> Seveas: and then I just apt-get install it manually you mean?
[11:11] <bnD> Seveas, thanks
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> DimitrisChr, Using an IBM here, and it seems pretty happy with Linux.
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> pi9inE, np.
[11:11] <dbecker> JoeBlow: did you install the fonts package?
[11:11] <bnD> Seveas, do you know which digits i should be comparing?
[11:11] <gerald-volt> anyone know of a free 3d cad software?
[11:11] <Seveas> lightbright, yup
[11:11] <gerald-volt> similar to autodesk inventor?
[11:12] <ale3hs> guys I have problems to set up the xorg.conf file.. I dont know the vertrefresg and horizsync values to put.. however horozsync to 60-85 I can see the login screen in ubuntu but when i log in the x crushes.. so it must be the
[11:12] <JoeBlow> dbecker: no, I didnt know
[11:12] <Seveas> bnD, if you have a crc sum, then cksum should give you the exact same one
[11:12] <ale3hs> vertrefresh that is wrong
[11:12] <dbecker> Dmitri: I'm running on IBM right now and it's built like a tank. Last Dell I had felt like a child's toy. Hinges broke after 2 months of normal use
[11:12] <bnD> Seveas, it has more digits..?
[11:12] <lightbright> Seveas: cool thanks :)
[11:12] <bnD> 3921083461 134047 shell.JPG
[11:12] <Seveas> are you sure it is crc and not md5 or sha1?
[11:12] <DimitrisChr> dbecker, tonnyyarusso: Thanks! I heard so many thinks about linux and laptops that i wanted to ask before i buy anything
[11:12] <bnD> ya
[11:12] <Epsilon> which one do I download there?
[11:12] <bnD> ill figure it out :)
[11:12] <bnD> thanks
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> gerald-volt, People have had trouble finding that before.  I did stumble across a 3D design something called blender, but I'm not exactly sure what it does.
[11:12] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, I don't see lua50.so
[11:13] <jaek> so does the installer for 5.10 actually resize existing ntfs partitions properly?
[11:13] <gnomefreak> !blender
[11:13] <ubotu> blender is, like, a free 3d program that can be found at http://www.blender3d.org  and tutorials at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[11:13] <Seveas> jaek, yes
[11:13] <JoeBlow> great guys that fixed it, this is the best supported linux ever, thanks so much guys
[11:13] <ale3hs> somebody please can help?? I have connected a monitor to my lap and I cant make it work.. it worksonly with 640x480 resolution
[11:13] <madgik85> Sorry, I just need a little more help... How do I find out if I have an Nforce2 chip or not in my motherboard?
[11:13] <JoeBlow> but i gotta take off
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> DimitrisChr, Also, Google on laptops, there are 3 or so sites that maintain reports of success/failure on different models.
[11:13] <Seveas> !tell ale3hs about fixres
[11:13] <gerald-volt> blender is similar to something like 3d max studio
[11:13] <PeteyPablo> when i plug in my ipod nano it comes right up, what folder do i drag music too?
[11:13] <dbecker> madgik: try lspci
[11:13] <gerald-volt> not really a 3d cad software me thinks
[11:13] <dbecker> madgik: It should list the mobo chipsets
[11:13] <Seveas> PeteyPablo, to the ipod icon on your desktop
[11:13] <PeteyPablo> Seveas: thanks
[11:13] <gnomefreak> guys ubotu just posted it in room
[11:14] <jaek> Seveas, so i shouldnt be worried that the existing windows partition will not be usable?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> have a read
[11:14] <xdude> joeblow  apt-get install : libdvdcss, win32decs, mplayer  sourcelist deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/
[11:14] <DimitrisChr> tonnyyarusso: any ubuntu specific related sites? After all its my favorite distro :-D
[11:14] <skon> blender is good stuff
[11:14] <Seveas> jaek, it won't be less usable than standard windows ;)
[11:14] <gnomefreak> oh yuck not a debian repo
[11:14] <ale3hs> Seveas,  I already checked that ..but I dont know my horizontal and vertical rates of my monitor .. basically horizontal is 60-85 but I cant find what vertical values I should to put
[11:14] <Seveas> xdude, BAD
[11:14] <Seveas> VERY BAD
[11:14] <jaek> Seveas, sweet
[11:14] <Seveas> marillat should NOT be used on ubuntu
[11:14] <gnomefreak> debian repos will break a ubuntu system
[11:15] <Crazy_Man> not always
[11:15] <Seveas> cipherfunk id the marillat for Ubuntu :)
[11:15] <gnomefreak> use easysource :))
[11:15] <xdude> Serveas  really why,  ?   I would like to do it right
[11:15] <Crazy_Man> use plf :)
[11:15] <ale3hs> Seveas, I can boot to windows normaly, but I dont know how to see there these values
[11:15] <Crazy_Man> >_>
[11:15] <Seveas> xdude, they're not always compatible
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> DimitrisChr, They usually have everything organized in a list, so you can scan for Ubuntu on them.
[11:15] <Seveas> xdude, Ubuntu repos work better on Ubuntu system
[11:15] <jaek> it didnt seem to take any time at all to resize the existing partition... hmm
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell xdude about easysource
[11:15] <PeteyPablo> Seveas: i dragged an album to my ipod nano but i can't find it on the ipod?
[11:16] <lightbright> gnomefreak: thanks for your help earlier, appreciated
[11:16] <xdude> Sorry it was information that got it to work for me?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> yw lightbright
[11:16] <Seveas> PeteyPablo, sorry dude, I don't know anything about ipods, I don't have one. YOu could try gtkpod
[11:16] <gnomefreak> xdude, on that site ubotu sent you you will find very good repos to use
[11:16] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I thought I knew all about apt-get :P  but my ignorance was evident :)
[11:16] <xdude> K
[11:16] <trappist> man amarok is awesome once you rebuild libtunepimp with libmad support
[11:16] <gnomefreak> i have to say Seveas did i great job with that one :))
[11:16] <DimitrisChr> tonnyyarusso : Thanks again!!!
[11:17] <Seveas> gnomefreak, couldn't have done it without the people that reported good repos :)
[11:17] <dbecker> gerald-volt: QCad? http://www.ribbonsoft.com/qcad.html
[11:17] <gnomefreak> apt can do many things
[11:17] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas  true
[11:17] <gnomefreak> i was gonna give you one but im not sure if its anything close to legal lol
[11:18] <lightbright> gnomefreak: but yesterday I had a message pop up that said 2 new updates available.  So I "think" that it all works in the background anyway, no need to worry about apt-get update anymore!  I wont type apt-get update UNLESS like you said, I change my sources,list
[11:18] <TengkSA> Seveas, !
[11:18] <TengkSA> ompaul, !!
[11:18] <madgik85> dbecker http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6546 is what i get, i see no nforce2, does that mean i dont have it?
[11:18] <Seveas> TengkSA, !!!
[11:18] <TengkSA> What are the commands one types in recovery console to fix boot settings FIXBOOT and ?
[11:19] <xdude> Ubotu  Could I get that site again,  I can not find where it was said?
[11:19] <ubotu> xdude: Not a clue
[11:19] <Seveas> FIXMBR
[11:19] <xdude> mplayer info
[11:19] <Seveas> xdude, ubotu is a bot :)
[11:19] <gnomefreak> xdude, in your pm
[11:19] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[11:19] <ubotu> I heard easysource is For an easy to use custom sources.list configurator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:19] <xdude> oh
[11:19] <gnomefreak> there
[11:19] <xdude> pm?
[11:19] <xdude> sorry
[11:19] <PeteyPablo> anyone here use ipod with ubuntu?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> just take it from right htere^^^
[11:19] <Seveas> !no easysource is <reply> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:19] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[11:20] <skon> Anyone know how to output multiple files with the streamer program?
[11:21] <Markbb-> seems like my machine doesn't like linux :S
[11:21] <Markbb-> locked up on me :(
[11:21] <Amaranth> Seveas: you've been turning everything into <reply> too?
[11:22] <Seveas> Amaranth, only where appropriate
[11:22] <PeteyPablo> can somone help me with my ipod?
[11:22] <Seveas> 'foo is For an...' is simply bad :)
[11:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell PeteyPablo about ipod
[11:23] <tbw> Is there a plugin for xmms that will allow me to adjust playback speed?
[11:23] <Seveas> undoubtedly
[11:23] <bnD> ( Operating System ) Linux Ubuntu 5.10 - breezy Kernel: 2.6.12-10-686, GNU/Linux ` Xorg: 6.8.2 ` Desktop: Fluxbox 0.9.14 ` IRC CLient: X-Chat v.2.6.0
[11:23] <Seveas> bnD, don't do that in here
[11:23] <bnD> k!
[11:24] <tbw> I wonder if there is any point in upgrading tot he 686 optimized kernel form 386
[11:24] <Seveas> tbw, sometimes
[11:24] <lightbright> tbw: Yes I did
[11:24] <Seveas> eg, ndiswrapper does not work on the 386 kernel
[11:24] <tbw> Well, I don't need it.
[11:24] <gnomefreak> speed wise you may not tell the difference
[11:24] <tbw> At least not on mylaptop
[11:24] <lightbright> tbw: why?
[11:24] <E0x> hello
[11:25] <skon> What's a safe temperature for a laptop to be at...according to acpi?
[11:25] <tbw> Because I dont need the wrapper on my laptop?
[11:25] <PeteyPablo> when i copy music to my ipod it doesnt show up?
[11:25] <Seveas> tbw, that was just an example ;)
[11:25] <tbw> skon: check out your processor site
[11:25] <tbw> Seveas: nod.
[11:25] <skon> tbw, thanks
[11:25] <gnomefreak> PeteyPablo, the post ubotu gave you was not of help?
[11:25] <madgik85> does anyone know how to access fglrx-control? i have it installed but i cant find how to start the program?
[11:26] <PeteyPablo> gnomefreak: i have banshee but it didn't seem to work?
[11:26] <Seveas> madgik85, 'fireglcontrol'
[11:26] <Seveas> madgik85, 'fireglcontrolpanel' even
[11:26] <NCLife> ubotu tell NCLife about ipod
[11:26] <madgik85> Seveas ty
[11:26] <Seveas> gnomefreak, bon apetit
[11:27] <E0x> question , i have breezy install and i apt-get a linux image smp , now when i wanna get nvidia driver it download a image of linux 386 and the driver dont work ,so i download the .sh file from nvidia site and install it ( a lot of thing happen before i get it compile but in the end i get it compile ) then i install it and work nice , but when i reboot the pc the driver dont work anymore and i need run the .sh install again
[11:27] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, what is the diference between what I need (Lua50.so) and liblua50.so ?
[11:28] <calamari> hi
[11:28] <lars> hi
[11:28] <monyetz> if i type host www.xxx.com, what is the return typr ? and how can i save it ?
[11:29] <Jrex-Linux> :O
[11:29] <Jrex-Linux> you speak of bad websites
[11:29] <raphink> o_O
[11:29] <kemik> monyetz:  trying to write a bashscript ?
[11:29] <gerald-volt> I'm thinking this kinda 3d cad modelling
[11:29] <gerald-volt> http://www.cadon.fi/upload/pictures/hi_res/SolidWorks%20Utilities%20One_h.jpg
[11:29] <gerald-volt> for linux
[11:29] <monyetz> :)
[11:29] <calamari> I recently had a filesystem corruption and lost some libs.  As a result, some packages were missing files.  I've written a python program that will reinstall (using apt) a package and (recursively) all its dependencies.. would this tool be of general use?
[11:29] <sorush20> during video playback my computer freezes.. any help please.. ?
[11:30] <monyetz> kernik : yes
[11:30] <xdude> Thanks Seveas, I got it
[11:30] <trappist> monyetz: if you mean return code, and you're in bash, it's $?
[11:30] <flodine> anyone using fluxbox who can help
[11:30] <bobbyd_> calamari, sounds like it
[11:30] <Stonekeeper> hi. My webcam is not being detected correctly. It's a  SONIX sn9c102 Hv7131R, but ubuntu wants to load spca5xx module. Anyone?
[11:30] <trappist> flodine: I've been known to use fluxbox, but since I didn't write it and don't know everything about it, I don't make a habit of volunteering to help until I know what the problem is.
[11:31] <Crazy_Man> does anyone else get forbidden on Seveas' packages?
[11:31] <Seveas> Crazy_Man, which ?
[11:31] <Jrex-Linux> Seveas, what is the diference between what I need (Lua50.so) and liblua50.so ?
[11:31] <Crazy_Man> I think w32codecs
[11:31] <Seveas> Crazy_Man, which mirror/
[11:31] <Yango> hello, I'm having troubles making a USB wifi adapter work, even following the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/
[11:31] <Crazy_Man> one off of source-o-matic
[11:32] <Stonekeeper> nm, just found in ubuntuforums. cheers.
[11:32] <treth> Am I the only one having trouble with network config?  =>.<=
[11:32] <New2UbuntuGuy> Hello quick question...Im setting up a desktop on ubuntu for mother in law and if she doesnt have a deskmate toy of some sort shes going to want me to reinstall windows
[11:33] <spy> yippeee i compiled my first LINUX APPLIcATION
[11:33] <PeteyPablo> whenever i try to use banshee to copy music to my ipod it freezes ?
[11:33] <treth> Deskmate?
[11:33] <New2UbuntuGuy> I downloaded the xpenguins.deb to my desktop but im having trouble getting it to run
[11:33] <Seveas> New2UbuntuGuy, lol :)
[11:33] <Crazy_Man> These are the repos I'm having trouble with:
[11:33] <Crazy_Man> # Seveas' packages (packages, GPG key: 1135D466)
[11:33] <Crazy_Man> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[11:33] <Crazy_Man> # Seveas' packages (sources, GPG key: 1135D466)
[11:33] <Crazy_Man> deb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[11:33] <Crazy_Man> # Cipherfunk multimedia packages (packages, GPG key: 33BAC1B3)
[11:33] <Crazy_Man> deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[11:33] <New2UbuntuGuy> how to I go about installing it from within bash? I dont think im using the install command properly?
[11:33] <treth> New2ubuntuGuy:  What exactly is it that she needs . . . ?
[11:33] <PeteyPablo> whenever i try to use banshee to copy music to my ipod it freezes ?
[11:33] <spy> seveas guess what my program does?
[11:33] <mikul> where should my wine config file be? i cant find it after installing wine..
[11:33] <New2UbuntuGuy> anything with little critters that run across the screen
[11:33] <kremonte> haha cool
[11:33] <Seveas> spy, crash?
[11:33] <Seveas> or spy :)
[11:34] <kremonte> i just apt-get installed xpenguins and i have something to do now!
[11:34] <treth> New2UbuntuGuy:  Like the Neko program for KDE?
[11:34] <New2UbuntuGuy> well if neko is what I think it is (cat in japanese) thats exactly what im looking for
[11:34] <kremonte> yup
[11:34] <New2UbuntuGuy> but Im running ubuntu with gnome
[11:34] <kremonte> what're you having trouble with with xpenguins?
[11:34] <New2UbuntuGuy> and Im really not up to installing another desktop :)
[11:35] <treth> New2UbuntuGuy:  It doesn't matter, apt-get will do it ok.  Let me get you a link so that you can see it.
[11:35] <New2UbuntuGuy> Im still VERY new to linux and ubuntu in general
[11:35] <spy> nope.. neither, it gives u the first 10 squares (with 0 being the first) and then says "you mother ****"
[11:35] <spy> hehe
[11:35] <kremonte> sudo apt-get install xpenguins then running xpenguins worked fine here
[11:35] <New2UbuntuGuy> Im trying to install it from the command line
[11:35] <New2UbuntuGuy> hmmm ok let me try it
[11:35] <New2UbuntuGuy> I tried with the package manager and it had noclue what I was looking for
[11:35] <ompaul> sudo apt-get install oneko
[11:36] <New2UbuntuGuy> ohhh thank you
[11:36] <kremonte> yay! more toys
[11:36] <New2UbuntuGuy> if this is a cat, Im in such business
[11:36] <New2UbuntuGuy> my mother in law will love me again
[11:36] <mirak> is there an utf8 converter for filenames ?
[11:36] <treth> New2UbuntuGuy:  apt-get install oneko
[11:36] <kremonte> oneko doesn't work to run it =x
[11:36] <lwizardl> hi
[11:36] <lwizardl> can someone help me with getting thoggen to work
[11:36] <mirak> utf8migrationtool just crashes
[11:36] <New2UbuntuGuy> couldnt find package oneko?
[11:36] <Yango> when I read system->administration->networking for Ubuntu what's the equivalent in Kubuntu?
[11:37] <ompaul> !tell New2UbuntuGuy about repos
[11:37] <New2UbuntuGuy> hmmm I should have them all enabled..I thought?
[11:37] <treth> Yango: I'm wondering that too.  KDE's network prog doesn't wark.
[11:37] <New2UbuntuGuy> mebbe I didnt on this machine..oops
[11:37] <treth> work*
[11:37] <kremonte> if that's not working sudo apt-get update ?
[11:37] <New2UbuntuGuy> that would explain alot :D
[11:37] <New2UbuntuGuy> let me check..
[11:37] <ompaul> New2UbuntuGuy, it is in universe
[11:37] <ForceAbuser> hi all :), talking about a lot of users WOW!
[11:38] <New2UbuntuGuy> thank you so much for all your help...if I can get a cat walking around on her desktop, she will be beside herself with joy, and for mother in laws, thats a VERY good thing
[11:38] <treth> New2UbuntuGuy:  Yeah, it's hard to get them over that 'your evil genitals of doom corrupted my child' thing.
[11:39] <Yango> treth: what program are you using?
[11:39] <ompaul> treth, no it is much worse than that - mine uses windows
[11:39] <New2UbuntuGuy> not so much that, cause she loves the resultant grand child...
[11:39] <kremonte> running oneko won't run it :-(
[11:39] <New2UbuntuGuy> but the resultant grand child likes to sit with her and watch the desk mate cat that I had on this old win98 machine
[11:39] <ompaul> I have just tried that looking to see why
[11:40] <treth> Yango:  As of right now, I'm editing /etc/network/interfaces manually.  It's not working well; the machine keeps overwriting /etc/resolv.conf with broken entries and losing the gateway, even without reboots.
[11:40] <kremonte> xpenguins works, though
[11:40] <New2UbuntuGuy> no kitty? crap
[11:40] <ompaul> New2UbuntuGuy, lets hang on a sec
[11:40] <kremonte> New2UbuntuGuy: from reading the description on oneko, it looks like it chases the cursor around
[11:40] <Amaranth> treth: everything it tries to renew the non-existant DHCP lease that happens
[11:40] <kremonte> xpenguins is cute though =P they die when they fall on a window too low on the screen
[11:40] <Amaranth> treth: but setting the interface as static in /etc/network/interfaces should make that not happen
[11:41] <Link`sAdventure> Hello
[11:41] <Link`sAdventure> I'm having issues with Qt4 Dev packages
[11:41] <treth> Amaranth:  That's fine; I understand how dchp programs and stuff overwrite the settings, I just have no idea how to make it STOP.  My interface is statically configured, but this keeps happening.
[11:41] <Link`sAdventure> It's using the wrong UIC and stuff
[11:41] <Amaranth> treth: some shell script you need to edit
[11:41] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, oneko works fine for me
[11:41] <bimberi> New2UbuntuGuy: try "/usr/X11R6/bin/oneko" in a terminal
[11:41] <cvt|gnuyear> how do i get 3d acceleration working?
[11:41] <Amaranth> treth: dhclient uses it
[11:42] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, what card?
[11:42] <treth> Amaranth:  I apt-get installed NetworkManager, but then I deleted it . . . but when resolv.conf gets overwritten, it says it was done by NetworkManager.
[11:42] <Link`sAdventure> it's using uic for Qt3 when you used qmake-qt4
[11:42] <Link`sAdventure> er
[11:42] <Link`sAdventure> when I^
[11:42] <Amaranth> treth: odd
[11:42] <phatmonkey> is there a way of finding out what driver my xorg is running currently? I don't think it's reading xorg.conf properly
[11:42] <rattler_414> what debian repo do I want to point to with ubuntu-64 ?
[11:42] <ForceAbuser> i got a (probaly very n00b) question: i CAN acces my HDA3, but i cant create a folder on it :(
[11:42] <cvt|gnuyear> polpak, how do i tell? i have 128mB of video ram and it's ati
[11:42] <Amaranth> treth: networkmanager probably modified the shell script
[11:42] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, lspci
[11:43] <cvt|gnuyear> synaptic?
[11:43] <Yango> According to the relevant how tos, a new interface should come up when I plug in my USB wifi adapter
[11:43] <Yango> this doesn't happen
[11:43] <Yango> what can I do?
[11:43] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, type lspci in a terminal
[11:43] <rattler_414> adept
[11:43] <treth> Amaranth:  I even manually nuked everything with 'NetworkManager' in the name, via slocate, and it is still doing it.
[11:43] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, it should tell you
[11:43] <cvt|gnuyear> oh ok
[11:43] <polpak> ForceAbuser, you need to get write access to the directory in order to write to it
[11:44] <ompaul>  /usr/X11R6/bin/oneko
[11:44] <ompaul> that works
[11:44] <cvt|gnuyear> polpak, http://pastebin.com/489322
[11:44] <polpak> yep. the damn cat is stalking my cursor. Except now it's sleeping
[11:44] <kremonte> yea, when the cat catches the mouse, it sleeps
[11:44] <kremonte> then when you move it it tries to catch it again
[11:44] <ForceAbuser> polpak: ok, this is a user setting i guess?
[11:45] <Amaranth> treth: I'm sure you did, but that isn't what is doing it.
[11:45] <cvt|gnuyear> polpak, did that link say?
[11:45] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, it said unknown device
[11:45] <Amaranth> treth: You need to find the shell script dhclient uses to write resolv.conf
[11:45] <wucked> morning i have a question about ubuntu!! my screen goes blank when i startx i hear the start up sound tho
[11:45] <Link`sAdventure> I'm having issues with Qt4 Dev packages
[11:45] <Amaranth> wucked: your monitor settings in x are wrong
[11:45] <Link`sAdventure> It's using the wrong UIC and stuff
[11:45] <Link`sAdventure> it's using uic for Qt3 when I used qmake-qt4
[11:45] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, if it's a radeon you can install the fglx drivers. Otherwise you have to use the open source ones
[11:46] <_hobbes> hi folks
[11:46] <treth> Amaranth:  I don't really know how . . . do you know how to set grep to search for lines inside files from a whole directory?
[11:46] <polpak> ForceAbuser, it's a setting on the directory
[11:46] <Amaranth> wucked: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and tell it to use a lower resolution
[11:46] <_hobbes> is there a source-package for glibc?
[11:46] <Amaranth> treth: no, sorry
[11:46] <treth> Amaranth:  I'll check the manpage . . .
[11:46] <odat> hi everyone
[11:46] <polpak> ForceAbuser, ls -ald directory should tell you it's ownership and permissions
[11:46] <wucked> Amaranth yes but if i correct them it still goes blank. I have a 17" widescreen toshiba laptop
[11:46] <mwe> _hobbes: why would you want that?
[11:46] <_hobbes> I'd like to compile libc with nptl support
[11:46] <ForceAbuser> polpak: aah great, THNX!
[11:46] <Amaranth> wucked: you tried telling it to use 800x600 or 640x480?
[11:46] <treth> Amaranth:  grep -d recurse
[11:47] <wucked> yes nothing
[11:47] <Amaranth> wucked: _just_ those? if you enable higher ones it'll try to use those
[11:47] <Toran> hey guys, how can I get my iPod video initially connected in Ubuntu?
[11:47] <wucked> ok
[11:47] <Amaranth> Toran: gtkpod
[11:47] <Amaranth> Toran: afaik it doesn't do video though
[11:48] <Toran> That's ok
[11:48] <mwe> _hobbes: yeah. I wonder why it's not compiled into the default though
[11:48] <Toran> Any step-by-step walkthrough?
[11:48] <cary> does anyone have an idea why my synaptic package manager wont open? when i select it (default breezy install) it requests authentication but the synaptic window im used to doesnt come up. nothing appears to happen
[11:48] <treth> Amaranth:  rofl . . . the only place it has found it, is inside the resolv.conf file.
[11:48] <Toran> Or just connect the iPod, mount it, start gtkpod, and copy files?
[11:48] <cvt|gnuyear> polpak, i found it: 128mB ati mobility radeon[r]  x700
[11:48] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, then use the getting started guide
[11:48] <waseem> hi does anyone know how to make the buttons on top of the keyboard work for ubuntu?
[11:48] <wucked> Amaranth it still gives a black screen but i hear the startup sound
[11:49] <odat> cary, sounds like a gdm problem
[11:49] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[11:49] <Amaranth> wucked: ok, what kind of a video card do you have?
[11:49] <odat> polpak,  system , preferences, keyboard shortcuts
[11:49] <cary> odat, what doesnt mean a whole lot to me. im fairly new at this (ive sucessfully installed it once on a powerbook, and now this time on a PC). any suggestion as to where to start to figure out how to fix it?
[11:49] <wucked> radeon x700 mobile 256mb
[11:50] <Amaranth> hrm
[11:50] <Amaranth> !fixres
[11:50] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:50] <Amaranth> wucked: i guess you can try that
[11:50] <wucked> k
[11:50] <odat> cary, try sudo apt-get install gdm    in the terminal
[11:50] <polpak> odat, that won't fix the synaptic problem though...
[11:51] <wucked> THX!
[11:51] <odat> waseem,  system , preferences, keyboard shortcuts
[11:51] <jahshua--> hey does anyone know if rootkithunter is available for ubuntu ?
[11:51] <mirak> how can I convert my file names of my fs into utf8 ???
[11:51] <jahshua--> i tried to get it, but no luck
[11:51] <Amaranth> treth: in /etc/network/interfaces for the static config add dns-nameservers XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
[11:51] <cary> odat, ran that, authenticated, and it went to the next line. i see no network activity or anyting happening
[11:51] <jahshua--> maybe its spelled differently ?
[11:51] <cary> polpak, any ideas?
[11:51] <brother_of_jared> Greetings..
[11:51] <Amaranth> treth: then when resolv.conf gets overwritten it should put those in
[11:51] <odat> polpak, he said he is not getting the password box when you starts synaptic  thats gdm
[11:51] <bimberi> jahshua--: not in the ubuntu repos, but there is chkrootkit
[11:51] <jahshua--> yah i got that one thanks
[11:52] <treth> Amaranth:  But I have 'gateway' set in the interfaces file, and it 'loses' the gateway too . . .
[11:52] <brother_of_jared> I have a question about a mysterious file that showed up on its own in my "home" folder of Ubuntu Breezy.
[11:52] <Amaranth> treth: hrm
[11:52] <cary> odat, polpak , i dont even get any error return when i have bad syntax trying to apt-get
[11:52] <polpak> odat, is it? I thought it was gksudo
[11:52] <Amaranth> treth: does your interfaces file look something like the second block on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=580543&postcount=3 ?
[11:52] <mwe> _hobbes: brother_of_jared then ask
[11:52] <lightbright> MICROSOFT was hustling to fix a flaw that left its Windows operating platform vulnerable to attacks from hackers
[11:52] <cary> odat, i get the password box, just not the package manager
[11:52] <lightbright> not till Jan 10 will they release a "fix"
[11:52] <lightbright> lol
[11:53] <odat> cary, oh ok did you reinstall synaptic?
[11:53] <lightbright> boy im glad I DONT use MS WIndow
[11:53] <treth> Amaranth:  Let me pastebin it for you so you can read it yourself.
[11:53] <B-166_ER-X> k3b keep telling me unable to WRITE@LBA=78a70h: Input/output error ,and wont burn cd/dvd, on a burner that used to ...
[11:53] <treyh0> bleh my laptop wont reboot with kernel 2.6.14 or 2.6.15
[11:53] <treyh0> just hangs when its finished
[11:53] <Amaranth> lightbright: not really an #ubuntu topic
[11:53] <mwe> lightbright: lot's of security holes are left without a fix in windows
[11:53] <B-166_ER-X> Gnome burner jsute create an image, and tells its burned, whitout problem, but its not.
[11:53] <cary> odat, ive not installed anything at all since my initial setup of this ubuntu system (last night i think it was. maybe two days ago). how would i reinstall it?
[11:53] <lightbright> Amaranth: are you an OP here?
[11:53] <brother_of_jared> Its called "dead.letter" and it has a red X on the upper right, a gold lock on the lower right and the symbol of a foot on the main icon.
[11:53] <lightbright> mwe: yeah :P
[11:53] <brother_of_jared> Something I should know or worry about?
[11:54] <odat> B-166_ER-X, did you try gnome baker?
[11:54] <lightbright> Amaranth: well that answers that :)
[11:54] <Amaranth> lightbright: Sometimes. :)
[11:54] <lightbright> Amaranth: lol ;)  you got me
[11:54] <lightbright> Amaranth: :P
[11:54] <lightbright> Amaranth: I wont forget you are op in a hurry
[11:54] <mwe> lightbright: really. they only fix like 70%. the last 30% they don't know how to fix they just don't talk about
[11:54] <B-166_ER-X> odat, 2 burner are not working ,there is no reason for trying a 3rdone, considering k3b has always done agreat job
[11:54] <odat> B-166_ER-X, understood
[11:54] <lightbright> mwe: yeah, thank goodness for Linux
[11:55] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: are you running k3b with kdesu or sudo?
[11:55] <New2UbuntuGuy> crud...didnt even realize I had closed this window...sorry about that people..
[11:55] <treth> Amaranth:  http://pastebin.com/489334
[11:55] <B-166_ER-X> Amaranth,  nope.
[11:55] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: try doing that
[11:55] <New2UbuntuGuy> ok so I have now installed a program using either the syn pack man or apt-get
[11:55] <brother_of_jared> The file is called "dead.letter" and it has a red X on the upper right, a gold lock on the lower right and the symbol of a foot on the main icon. Something I should know or worry about?
[11:55] <cary> odat, i found the site where i could get the debian files, but i mean then what..compile? dont really know how if thats whats next. ahah
[11:55] <New2UbuntuGuy> how do I go about actually running the silly thing? (finding where it installed to, etc)
[11:55] <Amaranth> brother_of_jared: no
[11:55] <pi9inE> guys, I've burned my .iso on DVD but it won't boot at start up, any tips why (i'm noob with linux, keep in mind) :)
[11:55] <Amaranth> brother_of_jared: the lock and x just mean you can't do anythign with it
[11:56] <odat> cary, don't have to just open up the terminal and type sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:56] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, which oneko?
[11:56] <Amaranth> brother_of_jared: and the foot is the standard icon for unrecognized files
[11:56] <brother_of_jared> I'm not even sure where it came from though...
[11:56] <New2UbuntuGuy> that and xpenguins yes
[11:56] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, /usr/X11R6/bin/oneko is the command for oneko
[11:56] <New2UbuntuGuy> thank you
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> brother_of_jared, You could always use sudo to view it to see if you can figure out what it is.
[11:56] <cary> odat, it says this: cary is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[11:56] <Amaranth> treth: that's really weird
[11:56] <B-166_ER-X> Amaranth,  eh.. 'wow' : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6549
[11:56] <New2UbuntuGuy> where do I normally find this information aside from coming in and asking silly questions about where the software installs to?
[11:57] <Amaranth> treth: i'm out of ideas, except for finding that script
[11:57] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, dpkg -L pkgname
[11:57] <pi9inE> guys, I've burned my .iso on DVD but it won't boot at start up, any tips why (i'm noob with linux, keep in mind) :)
[11:57] <odat> cary, do you have multiple user on your system?
[11:57] <treth> Amaranth:  I don't want to have to reinstall Kubuntu because of the damnable NetworkManager thing that some fucker RECCOMENDED in the forums.  =>.<=
[11:57] <New2UbuntuGuy> thank you :)
[11:57] <polpak> Just running xpenguins works for xpenguins
[11:57] <cary> odat, just root and cary ..thats it
[11:57] <jrattner1> treth, that was me, i recommended it :  )
[11:57] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, so xpenguins should already be in your path
[11:57] <Amaranth> treth: Watch the language please.
[11:57] <mwe> pi9inE: burn it again at lowest speed your burner supports
[11:57] <madgik85> Seveas sorry to disturb you again, I am having a little trouble with my display after I installed xorg-driver-fglrx. The screen resolution has gone to 1280x768 from 1280x800. Is there a way I can fix this?
[11:57] <pi9inE> mwe: burned by 4x
[11:57] <pi9inE> and it's on DVD
[11:58] <odat> cary, sounds like cary doesn't have permmision to make changes
[11:58] <jrattner1> Anyone know any good CD to mp3 converters? besides cd juicer
[11:58] <treth> Amaranth:  Sorry.  I'm used to being in college where language like that is considered light.
[11:58] <pi9inE> can be that be a problem?
[11:58] <brother_of_jared> tony // sudo is a terminal thing right?
[11:58] <fli7e> pi9inE, make sure your BIOS settings are set to try booting to the optical/cd/dvd drive BEFORE the hard drive
[11:58] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: try kdesu k3b
[11:58] <treth> jrattner1:  Ooh, glad you were here.  I'm not opposed to using it--if it works.  If you install NetworkManager, how are you supposed to use it?
[11:58] <SEJeff> treth, knetworkmanager will be out soon enough
[11:58] <odat> brother_of_jared, more or less
[11:58] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, only problem with xpenguins is it doesn't pay nice with the nautilus desktop.. (meaning icons will have trails carved through them by the penguins)
[11:58] <pi9inE> fli7e: sure on that
[11:58] <SEJeff> treth: go to run and type nm-applet
[11:58] <brother_of_jared> how would I sudo this file?
[11:59] <jrattner1> treth, it works perfectly, you add the line nm-applet to your session manager
[11:59] <brother_of_jared> I have a terminal open
[11:59] <jrattner1> treth, then it will work flawlessly
[11:59] <odat> brother_of_jared, what file?
[11:59] <treth> SEJeff:  I'm going to be 2,000 miles away in New Mexico by the time that's out.
[11:59] <fli7e> pi9inE, then go ahead and try burning at a slower speed and to a CD, as opposed to a dvd.
[11:59] <cary> odat, is there a way to make that happen?
[11:59] <brother_of_jared> dead.letter in my home file
[11:59] <treth> jrattner1:  Ok, let me reinstall and give it a shot.
[11:59] <jrattner1> treth, system->prefereenes->session
[11:59] <odat> cary, are you on the machine right now   is it connected to the internet?
[11:59] <cary> i am talking to you from it
[11:59] <pi9inE> fli7e: no empty CD at home damn :)) i'll try DVD again :D
[11:59] <SEJeff> treth: well use networkmanager. It is pretty good. Do you use kubuntu or ubuntu?
[11:59] <B-166_ER-X> Amaranth,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6550
[11:59] <cary> i just su root 'ed