[12:05] jajaj [12:05] ok [12:05] then mhz do i past here the error??????????????????? [12:06] Lord_Athur: no idea how to help you because the only times I have had problems with initrd files is when kernel has got errors [12:06] Lord_Athur: nope [12:06] when I pasted it on ubuntu, someone baned me [12:06] exactly [12:06] :D [12:06] hehehe [12:06] there is a 'pastebin' site [12:06] yes [12:06] I dont recall any now [12:06] anyone know what I can do? [12:07] I used it, but from this moment nobody tries to help me [12:07] but if you use that and paste here only the url of your paste.. that's ok [12:07] noone can ban you for that [12:07] I can't see anything strange on tty04 [12:07] lucasvo, i cannot see anything strange there [12:07] lucasvo: I'd love to but i have not installed a thing in months [12:07] is it possible that loading a single module takes more than 1h? [12:08] nope [12:08] IMHO, thoug [12:08] mhz: how can I manually load a module? [12:08] insmod isofs: file not ofund [12:08] ah strange, isofs already seems to be loaded [12:08] lucasvo modprobe isofs I guess [12:09] lucasvo: modules are loaded by using 'modprobe the_module' [12:09] yeah [12:09] so it is only the installer [12:09] which crashes [12:09] :( [12:09] lucasvo: did you try 'hitting the box' with love? [12:10] (we call that 'hitting' "el golpe tecnico" in Chile) [12:10] :D [12:10] jajaj [12:10] iok [12:10] lucasvo: I had similar trouble with a damaged CD [12:10] ofcourse, I never new it was damaged until then [12:10] :( [12:11] mhz, is there is a edubuntu man, who is the ubuntu & kubuntu sr? [12:12] lo dije mal [12:12] xD [12:12] hm, is there any way, how to do a manual installation? [12:12] me va psimo con el ingls [12:12] lucasvo: what do you have in mind? [12:13] mhz: not using debconf [12:14] or just skip the step which comes after modprobe isofs [12:14] lucasvo I usually do expert or server install and then install ubuntu-desktop in your case edubuntu-desktop [12:14] lucasvo: oh, like 'installing from scratch'? [12:14] jouni__m: I want a server install === yvesC [n=yves@lns-bzn-50f-81-56-207-189.adsl.proxad.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:14] jouni__m: but can I do that without debconf? [12:14] lucasvo: server is safer than any mode AFAIK [12:15] I am using server install [12:15] oh [12:15] flight 2 or breezy? [12:15] I just wan't an IPtables firewall :D [12:15] breezy [12:16] but you can set IpTables from any machine [12:16] hm? [12:16] ubuntu server install is minimal install without gnome or KDE don't know what edubuntu has [12:17] jouni__m: yeah, but still, it crashes after loading the isofs [12:19] hm, let's try what happens, when I load isofs before [12:19] lucasvo oh no. do you have (k)ubuntu cd? [12:20] jouni__m: the problem is, I have no cd drive [12:20] waaaa [12:20] now it crashes, when it loads ide-cd, at 92% [12:24] silly [12:24] it crashes at 92% all the time, doesn't depend on which module I load [12:35] ogra: can you help me with pxe install? [12:38] just use your ltsp server ;) [12:39] and provide the installer image instead of the normal ltsp images [12:39] ogra: and replace wich files with what? [12:40] the files in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp with the ones from the url i gave you for the netboot installer [12:40] ogra: ok thanks [12:44] ogra: would it boot wih ltsp? [12:45] why shouldnt it [12:45] but since you wanted to install, i'd use the install image === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku42.adsl.netsonic.fi] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:47] hm, there is a LAN option, but it doesn't seem to be pxe === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [i=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa [i=dsa@210.213.76.170] has joined #edubuntu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #edubuntu === dsa [i=dsa@210.1.95.100] has joined #edubuntu === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@cpe-065-188-148-141.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa [i=dsa@210.213.94.154] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [i=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [02:07] re === dsa [i=dsa@210.1.93.91] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [02:51] ogra_ibook: what do you think about this simplicity for CSS rc1 ? http://ubuntu-cl.org/Wiki/Inicio [02:51] (is it too simple?) === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@66.248.140.183] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa [i=dsa@210.1.95.141] has joined #edubuntu [02:58] Hi mhz, (and others)... Are we meeting in 10 hours? Or is this a week we're off? === crimsun__ [n=crimsun@66.248.140.183] has joined #edubuntu [03:05] Oops. Never mind. I found it. ("No" for those of you who might also be wondering. Next meeting on Jan 11.) [03:07] right, I was pointing to fridge.u.c as listing the next meeting as 8 days away before this coffee shop's wifi connectivity broke. Again. [03:11] kjcole: crimsun: Topic for #ubuntu-meeting is: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | 5 Jan 20:00 UTC: Dapper Development Status | 10 Jan 15:00 UTC: Community Council | 11 Jan 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu [03:12] mhz, So I'm illiterate. What else is new? ;-) Thanks. (I found it in the wiki as well.) [03:12] lol [03:13] kjcole: how's the doc going (me still can't contribute to it) [03:13] I hope you wont tell me "you did not want to contribute, mhz" [03:13] :D [03:13] mhz, I was just thinking about mentioning that. === Lord_Athur [i=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:14] mhz, Honestly, I' [03:14] hi [03:15] kjcole: heheh [03:15] mhz, Honestly, I'm not certain how to work this as a book: Although Jeff and I keep saying we welcome contributors, there's also a sense from both of us that the face-to-face meetings can't be beat. Since the original doc is around 150 printed pages, we're treating it like co-authors still. [03:16] mhz, we're hoping to pass through it at least once as a two-some, and then, as I understand it, open up the contributing process a bit more. [03:17] mhz, however, lucasvo has made a bzr branch off of the main branch, and is editing as well. [03:18] kjcole: so can we contribute now? [03:18] hi!!! [03:18] mhz, I'm becoming slowly more comfortable with bzr, but am still a bit nervous working with it, and am not certain how to handle conflicts in merges. [03:18] I remember last thing you told me about not being ready to do so (BZR issues) [03:18] Hi, Lord_Athur [03:18] Lord_Athur: hi, what's the problem? [03:19] :D hi kjcole [03:19] mhz, still some bzr problems. [03:19] I need to mount a squashfs file [03:19] ogra game information about the squashfs-tools package [03:19] Lord_Athur: so? is that why you needed us to say 'hi' so urgently ? [03:19] :D [03:20] kjcole: what are your current problems? [03:20] it was only to see who is avalible to talk :D [03:20] mhz, but mostly our understanding of bzr, I think. [03:21] mhz, it's damned slow about downloading a branch for one thing (and not very informative when it does). It looks like it hangs, but really it's still doing a download. [03:21] ohhh [03:22] mhz, the main problem in my experiments is that when you have two documents that conflict, it tries to do something intelligent, but I don't know the best way to interpret what it returns. [03:22] kjcole: I only tested BZR once, when I tried to start contributing to your doc efforts [03:22] kjcole: lol! [03:23] kjcole: and did you feel the same with SVN? [03:24] mhz, For example, if you have a file named "text" and you edit it in two different branches, then merge, it produces a "text" file with both changes and some markers indicating that the changes overlap. In addition it creates three other "text.*" files. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [03:24] kjcole: hmmm, that sounds weired to me too [03:25] mhz, never used a RCS before. So I don't know anything about cvs, svn or the original bazaar. I'm brand new to this. === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [03:25] kjcole: and of course, i guess you have talked to ogra about it [03:25] kjcole: i get your feelings [03:25] mhz, I've spoken with him somewhat, but he's a bit overworked I think. ;-) === mhz been there too [03:25] he's indeed [03:26] he's Mr. Edubuntu [03:26] kjcole: we 're just the ones about to die, saluting :) [03:26] mhz, Since both you and lucasvo continue expressing a lot of interest in editing, I'm wondering if a small IRC meeting between you, me, jelkner and lucasvo can be arranged, so that we're all making decisions together. [03:27] or, we could use a Moin wiki to edit and it automatically keeps a CVS in the back-end [03:27] :) [03:27] so we can alwasy revert changes [03:28] and edit what we all are doing [03:28] :) [03:28] and even create a huge mess [03:28] but I am for taking advantage of it over messing it up [03:28] so dont worry [03:28] kjcole: I know Moin can generate XML [03:29] mhz, you and moin remind me about the way some folks feel about vi versus emacs. ;-) Fanatical. [03:29] easily and cleanly [03:29] kjcole: of course, that's the idea :) [03:29] but I can prove my point, so that's one big difference in my favour :D, kjcole [03:30] mhz, Personally, I don't care which way we go. However, as far as I know, jelkner's the only one of us who has a book in print. So, I've been quite willing to follow his lead on this. [03:30] of course, I understand [03:30] but could you gimme the pleasure to give it just one try to show him and you why I insist on this? [03:31] Could you provide me with just a chapter [03:31] my only concern would be I have no idea what to do with an xml file when I get it ;) [03:31] mhz, I do strongly want to lean towards bzr, over cvs, since there's a lot of energy from Ubuntu in that direction. However, wiki markup, versus other types of markup, I don't have strong feelings about. [03:32] good point [03:32] I do agree DockBook is the best markup for textas [03:32] -s [03:32] -as [03:33] but if we only needed Headings and bolds and italics and Codelistings, then Moin is my #1 candidate [03:34] but again, I have no clue about XML so I can't say much [03:34] mhz, The standard is Docbook (XML), you want moin (wiki), jelkner wants lore (twisted HTML), and I don't really care, as long as we settle on one. Since Jeff and I have been meeting weekly, lore became the winner. [03:34] yup [03:35] so, our only problem is RCS ? [03:35] we solve that and we are ready to go? [03:35] go = rock [03:35] I don't know Docbook, but am learning a little about XML. I do know wiki, and HTML. Lore was pretty simple to learn (I thought). Not much to it. === Lord_Athur [i=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:37] do you edit XML with a front-end GUI or code? [03:37] mhz, I don't know: Assuming the RCS is fine, if we are all choosing different markups, then it is still a problem: Either we convince you to go with lore, or you convince jelkner to go with moin, or all three of us learn Docbook. [03:37] LOL [03:38] mhz, lore is really HTML, not XML. My small experiments in XML have been raw coding, but I did find an editor which tries to help a little: [03:39] kjcole: I can't insist on Moin if I am ignorant on XML, because in the end we gotta export Moin 2 XML (which people who masters XML do very easily). [03:39] conglomerate is the name of the editor. [03:40] kjcole: ok, but today, on daily basis, when you sit and edit the edubuntu cookbook, do you use a window with buttons for bold, italics, headings, etc? or open Emacs and start editing raw code? [03:40] mhz, conglomerate doesn't eliminate the need to know XML but it attempts to highlight things correctly and show you where problems occur with validating. [03:41] mhz, day-to-day, it's emacs. (jelkner likes vi, I like emacs, but it's still raw for both of us.) [03:42] hmm [03:42] so it's not like you have a window where you select 'heading' and immediately inserts a H2 [03:42] mhz, I find it fairly easy to remember italicize this and boldface this and underline this. Not a lot of markup to learn. [03:43] hehe [03:43] it was an example [03:43] some stuff is very simple, indeed [03:43] IIRC there was a XML GUI book editor... === mhz will tell you in a bit [03:44] mhz, nope. And I find when editing, if I have to take my hands off the keyboard to play with the mouse, it slows me down. And if there's a keyboard shortcut for

it doesn't help me that much. [03:46] if anyone's based in the Baltimore/D.C. area, I'll be passing through on the 22nd/23rd of this month if you want to sign keys. [03:46] mhz, however, with XML in emacs, if you add the right "plugin" or "emacs mode", it almost does what you want: Something like Control-C, C and then part of a tag will add both the starting and ending tags, and then sometimes offer possible tags to add between. [03:47] crimsun, I'm in Brain-Washington, DC but without wheels. [03:47] crimsun, jelkner is also in this area. [03:48] kjcole: ok [03:48] crimsun, so are you passing through both Washington and Baltimore? [03:49] kjcole: yes, but I'll be in Baltimore primarily [03:49] kjcole: sorry, it was Lyx for LaTex [03:50] and the other was kxmleditor (if you use KDE) [03:50] mhz, I've fooled with LyX too. (I know only a very tiny part of raw LaTeX. So I use LyX when I want to play with that.) === mhz apt-getting conglomerate to give it a try [03:51] (just in case it's KISS enough for me) [03:51] mhz, but I don't generally need LaTeX at all, so I haven't played with LyX very much. [03:51] yup, hence I said 'sorry' [03:52] conglomerate is still a little buggy and slow, but it appears to be functional. [03:52] mhz, slow on large documents at least. It might behave better on smaller stuff. === mhz slaps himself hard because he should have learnt emacs long time ago but he's been lazy to play sit and play with it [03:54] crimsun, well, if your schedule puts you in DC during dinner time, we could probably work something out. Or, since the 23rd is a Sunday, perhaps lunch. [03:54] hmm, 22nd? [03:55] mhz, I feel the same way about vi. Apparently, vi is supposed to have a nice outline plugin, but since I don't know vi, I haven't worked with it either. [03:55] crimsun, right. My typo. [03:55] kjcole: I'd prefer Emacs over VI, but thx [03:55] right, sounds good, will have more concrete plans in a bit. [03:57] crimsun, ever had Ethiopean cuisine? ;-) [03:57] nope :-) [03:58] kjcole: any url I can get one of your chapters from? [03:58] crimsun, then, if you're a moderately adventurous eater, that's what we'll try to do (schedule permitting, of course). [03:58] kjcole: sounds good [03:59] mhz, do you have bzr? if so, "bzr branch http://pchb1f.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/Edubuntu/Cookbook" and then just wait a while. [04:00] (It will create a subdirectory named Cookbook, and populate it with all of the current files.) [04:00] kjcole: okis, i am on it [04:01] mhz, the behavior we saw recently when doing this between my machine and flint's machine in Vermont was that it would quickly reach revision 5, then look completely dead for about 5-7 minutes, and then continue. === apokryphos [n=apokryph@70.85.216.98] has joined #edubuntu [04:02] mhz, the bzr download would stop a second time, somewhere around revision 11, and then continue with the rest of the revisions very quickly. [04:03] okis [04:03] I wont desperate [04:03] [========= ] fetch revision 5/28 0:02:04 === mhz BRB [04:04] mhz, currently at 27 revisions because we commit fairly often (and your branch becomes 28). === tinsleyc [n=c_tinsle@71-33-0-139.bois.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:19] mhz, I gotta run. Adios! [04:19] Jerome, are you here? [04:21] How's mhz tonight? [04:23] Mauricio??? [04:24] Must be late... [04:24] Another time. 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[11:43] hey pc22 [11:50] hey ogra [11:50] seen yagisan? === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-168-178.tri-isys.com] has joined #edubuntu === spacey_ki [n=spacey@a82-93-13-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === spacey_ki [n=spacey@a82-93-13-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === bgrah [n=chatzill@p5084FC01.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:08] hello together , i am in a school and i am changing my woody-servers into sarge , later i will use LTSP - is there a version in edubuntu that works ? -- please give any feedback === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === policrates [n=mambello@236.Red-80-38-224.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === policrates [n=mambello@236.Red-80-38-224.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu [] [01:20] bgrah: yes, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ltsp&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.207.41.251] has joined #edubuntu [01:28] hi [01:28] edubuntu meeting today? [01:43] highvoltage: I can't see anything in the calendar [01:43] probably not then === tinsleyc [n=c_tinsle@71-33-0-139.bois.qwest.net] has joined #edubuntu [01:46] IRC channel #ubuntu-meeting Agenda: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki 11.01. 16-17UTC [01:47] highvoltage, because of the holidays IIRC === zakame [n=zak@210.1.80.36] has joined #edubuntu [01:49] ok === vmarks [n=vmarks@64.32.163.97] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@FredericSD-162.nat.wiscnet.net] has joined #edubuntu === dsaa [i=dsa@210.213.86.75] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [02:23] Good Morning Jerome [02:25] What is the status of the Edubuntu cookbook and can I help in any way. I noticed that in checking the wiki, it does not even seem to be on the list. [02:26] And the tuxlab cookbook isn't that relevant since it was based on the RH implementation of LTSP. [02:31] hi tinsleyc [02:31] tinsleyc: the tuXlab cookbook is being re-written with Edubuntu 6.04 in mind === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu [02:32] tinsleyc: i'm currently re-writing a big part of the technical and software parts, I will put up copies on the wiki ~ at the end of this month [02:39] let me know if there is anything I can do to help. [02:45] where is that bootchart suppose to end up again? [02:45] /var/log/bootchart? [02:48] GRMBl [02:51] tinsleyc: ok, thanks. are you on edubuntu-devel mailint list? [02:51] tinsleyc: i'll post about it there when the time comes [02:54] I am going to have to double check on if I am on the devel list. I was at one time and then the other day, I did recieve a couple of messages from the list so I am not sure. === ulinskie [i=1007@203.131.132.66] has joined #edubuntu === ogra wonders why nobody reads the topic [02:56] :) [02:56] /topic :) [02:57] ogra: happy new year to you [02:57] Hello highvoltage [02:57] same to you :) [02:57] hi Petaris [02:57] Hi ogra [02:57] hey Petaris [02:57] ogra: i installed edubuntu flight 2, and i have a bit of the same problem as Edward has (posted to the list) [02:58] something i can type at cd boot time to use local files only? [02:59] just go back, that will drop you to a menu [02:59] there select the next task [02:59] yes, that's what i did. [03:00] but it doesn't build the multi-seat system, because it insists on getting it on-line [03:00] i currently have no working email , could you answer edward ? [03:00] oh, forget about multiseat [03:00] sip this one [03:00] *skip [03:00] you need connectivity for multiseat? [03:00] no idea [03:01] is multiseat ltsp or the 441 kind of thing? [03:01] i'm not aware that anybody ever used or tested multiseat since warty [03:01] its similar to 441 [03:01] aaah, ok. sorry, i confused it with ltsp. [03:01] but as i said, nobody has the HW to test it, and it will surely get dropped with multiseat inclusion in X [03:01] i will reply to edwards post then. [03:02] i didn't know it's going to be included in X. that's great. [03:02] you have no idea how much it sux not having an internet connection :( [03:03] i have [03:03] mine dropps as well from time to time .. [03:06] need to go now, bbl. [03:06] later highvoltage === bgrah [n=chatzill@p5084FC01.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #edubuntu [] === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089EB20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [04:07] ogra, :) [04:07] got dapper thin client chroot now [04:08] but ldm doesn't want to log in [04:08] i don't think its dapper related, because before the upgrade the same problem occured [04:08] debug1: read_passphrase: can't open /dev/tty: No such device or address^M [04:08] debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password^M [04:08] debug1: No more authentication methods to try.^M [04:08] does that make sense? [04:09] spacey_ki: on the server, try 'ltsp-update-sshkeys' [04:09] and try again from the client [04:09] mhz, already did that [04:09] oh [04:09] before it stopped at host authentication failed or something [04:09] how many times? [04:10] uh once? === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu [04:10] I tried three times until it worked (but under breezy) [04:11] i'll check again tomorrow [04:11] first some other work to do [04:11] have to leave here now [04:11] head home [04:11] bytes [04:11] ogra, if you read it, feel free to reply, i'm still logged in as herman_ [04:11] bbl [04:15] herman_, hmm, works here === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === jingl3 [n=john@gateway.coronet.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [04:26] Hi folks, I've installed Edubuntu but having problems logging in to a thin client. Can anyone help? === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-168-178.tri-isys.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:27] jingl3, you followed the install notes from the channel topic ? [04:27] User can login on server, but thin client login simply returns another login [04:29] did you change the ip or name of the system post install ? [04:29] Yes, I've been through all the steps. Needed to set the tftpd-hpa to work in daemon mode. [04:30] huh ? [04:30] why ? [04:30] its configured by default in edubuntu [04:30] the installer does it, else you installation failed [04:31] dunno why tftpd-hpa needed to be changed. daemon mode was set to NO. [04:34] thats right [04:34] it should, since it gets started by inetd on demand [04:35] I needed to change /etc/defaults/tftpd-hpa to RUN_DAEMON="yes" [04:35] to get the thin client to boot. [04:37] nope [04:37] you should have looked why inetd isnt working [04:37] is sshd running ? [04:38] thats the core part of edubuntu ltsp [04:38] sshd is running [04:39] xinetd is running [04:40] xinetd ???? [04:40] what did you do with your system ? [04:40] there is no xinetd installed in edubuntu ... [04:40] OK - I reset /etc/default/tftpd-hpa so RUN_DAEMON="no" [04:42] how doesxinetd get on your system ? [04:43] Apart from the Edubuntu install, there weren't any other steps. [04:45] we never ever used xinetd anywhere in edubuntu or ubuntu ... are you sure its *x*inetd ? [04:46] Here's what inetd says about itself: [04:46] #/etc/init.d/inetd has been diverted by the xinetd package. [04:46] # The inetd service is provided by xinetd, which means inetd [04:46] # doesn't need to be run. [04:47] strange [04:48] that shouldnt be there [04:48] maybe it came with another package - let's see... [04:48] netkit-inetd is the default inetd and the one that a dependency of ltsp-server [04:54] inetd got shafted on my machine on 8 December. Can't find another package installed on same date. === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089CC34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:57] netkit-inetd is still installed, I'll try reinstalling it. [04:57] remove xinetd [04:58] OK [04:59] inetd started [04:59] now trying to reboot thin client... [04:59] fine [04:59] Rebooting... [05:01] Failure initialising /etc/network/ifstate... but login appears [05:01] the errors are normal... breezy didnt see the cosmetical cleanup [05:01] Tried logging in, but the login screen just reappears again [05:01] ok [05:02] run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys on the server [05:02] then tr again [05:03] Ah! That looks better! [05:03] :) [05:03] Anything I can add to the wiki about this? [05:04] normally the right inetd should be installed, the step with ltsp-update-sshkeys should be there already ... [05:04] if ot, add it :) [05:04] *not [05:04] OK. Many thanks for your help! [05:04] :) [05:05] youre welcome [05:05] Moving data over from Fedora LTSP now... [05:08] ogra, youve seen yagisan? [05:09] not recently, no === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [05:31] ogra_ibook: I read -motu discussion... I understand your points and support them. It's about the way we do things not what we do. [05:33] yup [05:35] and I have been notifed Lucas has added this topic to next CC meeting, good. [05:35] nope [05:35] thats not for the CC meeting [05:35] that should be in a motu meeting [05:36] which is when? :) [05:36] make a date, ask the guys [05:36] ogra_ibook: ooooo [05:36] announce it to the ML [05:37] is Motu meeting before CC ? [05:37] if so, it would be better then [05:38] and in case no concensus , then move it to CC [05:38] i dont see it on the agenda [05:38] and this topic has really nothing to do with the CC [05:39] just make a motu meeting, add it to the agenda, discuss it amd make a vote ... its no magic ... [05:41] hehehehe [05:41] indeed [05:41] well, for what it is worth, I vote for your 'way' :D [05:41] lets see what comes out ... [05:42] i will go with the majority ... even if it dfecides against me ... [05:42] hnha [05:42] we'll give lots of loving to Mr.Edubuntu! [05:42] heh [05:43] i'm not doing much in MOTU anymore, so i'm not the guy to make decisions for them, i can just tell my opinion === Lord_Athur [i=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:47] hi === raghu [n=raghu@59.144.59.197] has joined #edubuntu [06:00] Hello [06:00] hi raghu [06:01] Hi Lord_Athur === raghu [n=raghu@59.144.59.197] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089CC5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089DCCF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Lord_Athur [i=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:37] hi === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #edubuntu === \sh_away is now known as \sh === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has left #edubuntu [] === \sh is now known as \sh_away === Burgwork [n=corey@S010600131016cf6f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:50] ogra, what are the current plans for mediawiki? === blue-frog [n=james@lns-bzn-47f-81-56-254-229.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:51] none, its in universe === Lord_Athur [i=alejandr@pc-30-37-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:52] there is no chance to provide security fixes for it for 5 years [08:52] hi [08:53] ogra, upstream is pretty good about security stuff [08:53] but they only do new releases [08:53] there is no backporting of the fixes to older versions [08:54] which would mean pitti or me had to do it [08:55] really? they just released 1.4.12, which is a security release of the current breezy version [08:55] oh, thats new [08:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download' [08:55] ogra, at the begining of the next week i will have my three thinclients === mhz has just installed Trac ... nice work! 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