[12:00] <treth> SEJeff:  Kubuntu.
[12:00] <SEJeff> treth, I'm sorry :)
[12:00] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: ok...
[12:00] <cary> that seemed to do more, after bein glogged in as root
[12:00] <New2UbuntuGuy> thats ok, my mother in law doesnt care about carved up icons
[12:00] <jrattner1> treth, i would recomend it for either, it makes wireless networking a matter of "point and click"
[12:00] <New2UbuntuGuy> she only cares about cute stuff on her desktop
[12:00] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority && kdesu k3b
[12:00] <New2UbuntuGuy> and critters that walk along the top of her windows while shes playing solitaire
[12:01] <treth> SEJeff:  I think GTK is a blight on the face of open source (I'm being overly dramatic, of course, I just prefer Qt).  :P
[12:01] <gerald-volt> how do I install a .deb package?
[12:01] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: After that I'm out of ideas.
[12:01] <joshi_> Is Half-Life supported on linux?
[12:01] <brother_of_jared> I could use a hand with this terminal stuff to look at this file when someone has a moment.
[12:01] <polpak> gerald-volt, dpkg -i pkgname
[12:01] <Amaranth> treth: Qt is ok, but GTK is still my favorite for writing things in
[12:01] <polpak> joshi_, not officially, but it has been known to work under wine
[12:01] <SEJeff> treth, And I was kidding. I find kde overly compliex and I am not a new linux user. To each his own...
[12:01] <joshi_> thnx
[12:01] <treth> SEJeff:  It's funny.  I prefer QT to GTK, but I have to use gAIM because the one QT IM client, whatever it is (can't remember the name) is absolutely horrible.
[12:01] <polpak> joshi_, quake 4 is supported though
[12:01] <SEJeff> treth, kopete
[12:02] <odat> treth, just remember developers are never gonna create commercial software on a new platform if they have to pay to do it   opposed to doing if for free
[12:02] <B-166_ER-X> Amaranth,  didnt work well i guess : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6551
[12:02] <cary> odat, im goign to paste what it said when i ran that install as root
[12:02] <treth> SEJeff:  I know.  In Open Source, we like to get really dramatic with our 'battles' when we really don't care very much.  =^^=
[12:02] <SEJeff> treth, There is a gtk theme that makes gtk software draw it's widgets with qt. It allows stuff like gaim to look "kdeish"
[12:02] <odat> cary, don't know why your running this as root
[12:02] <polpak> treth, funny. I'm the opposite. I use GTK apps for everything except smb4k and qgo. As in both cases there isn't a gtk replacement
[12:02] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: that's supposed to happen
[12:02] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: put in the password
[12:03] <xst> Are there any way I can boot a ubuntu HD-installation in runlevel 1, if I do not have the root-password?
[12:03] <brother_of_jared> ok, I'll come back later...
[12:03] <treth> SEJeff:  What's the package name for the network manager program?
[12:03] <cary> odat, well it was the only thing i could think of after you said "cary doesnt seem to have permission" or whatever
[12:03] <_Casper> My installation is hanging after the 1st reboot.  ...boots back up, goes into configuring the base system and hangs at 0% "Preparing the installation."  Can anyone help?
[12:03] <kemik> xst:  there is no root passwd in ubuntu
[12:03] <B-166_ER-X> Amaranth,  did it ...then : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6552
[12:04] <SEJeff> treth, 'sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt' and set that as your gtk theme for gtk apps to fit in with kde
[12:04] <odat> treth, i assume i win
[12:04] <odat> lol
[12:04] <kemik> xst:  unless you yourself enabled the root acct
[12:04] <brother_of_jared> g'night all.. I'm off to work
[12:04] <New2UbuntuGuy> ok next silly question, how do I get rid of the cat and the penguins now taking over my desktop?
[12:04] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, kill the processes
[12:04] <treth> odat:  win what?  I probably missed your statement.  :P
[12:04] <kemik> New2UbuntuGuy:  what cat and penguin ?
[12:04] <dooglus> xst: I heard a rumour that you don't need to root password to get into single-user mode in ubuntu
[12:04] <SEJeff> treth, network-manager
[12:04] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: I'm out of ideas.
[12:04] <cary> odat, i ran apt-get update and then i was notifed of the new updates via the gui  but i still cant see my synaptic
[12:04] <SEJeff> dooglus, you don't
[12:04] <Amaranth> B-166_ER-X: Try #kubuntu, they might actually know how KDE works. :P
[12:04] <odat> treth, tis ok i just had an epiphany the other day why i choose and luv gnome
[12:04] <xst> dooglus: How can I do it? I have physical access to the machine
[12:05] <B-166_ER-X> i'm on Ubuntu, gnome, not kubuntu
[12:05] <SEJeff> odat, why is that?
[12:05] <polpak> cary, I believe the problem is that you are not an administrative user
[12:05] <dooglus> xst: log in, and type "telinit 1"
[12:05] <chalcedony> Amaranth: and then again they might not...
[12:05] <chalcedony> ;)
[12:05] <dooglus> xst: or "sudo telinit 1" if you're not root
[12:05] <_Casper> My installation is hanging after the 1st reboot.  ...boots back up, goes into configuring the base system and hangs at 0% "Preparing the installation."  Can anyone help?
[12:05] <kemik> xst:  boot in "safe mode" think that gives you root aswell
[12:05] <cary> polpak, how can i change that?
[12:05] <New2UbuntuGuy> ok, I appreciate the information so much
[12:05] <New2UbuntuGuy> as soon as I ran xpenguins, mother in law came running over
[12:05] <IdleOne> anybody know how to create a launcher on the desktop using a one button mouse?
[12:05] <kremonte> =P
[12:05] <New2UbuntuGuy> OH LOOK thats so CUTE!!!
[12:05] <SEJeff> kemik, recovery mode. That is the exact same thing as single user mode
[12:05] <chalcedony> New2UbuntuGuy: they are.
[12:05] <kremonte> New2UbuntuGuy: try xpenguins --penguins 50 ;-)
[12:05] <New2UbuntuGuy> I have redeemed myself in her eyes :)
[12:05] <kemik> SEJeff:  ah yes. recovery :)
[12:05] <xst> I searched for a safe mode. How do I boot in safe mode?
[12:06] <micahf> hey everyone!
[12:06] <lucasvo> my netboot installation fails at 92% Loading module 'isofs' for linux iso 9660 filesystem
[12:06] <polpak> New2UbuntuGuy, excellent
[12:06] <Mabus06> press escape when grub is loading, xst
[12:06] <_Casper> My installation is hanging after the 1st reboot.  ...boots back up, goes into configuring the base system and hangs at 0% "Preparing the installation."  Can anyone help?
[12:06] <New2UbuntuGuy> I will try that ;) Ill check the help out for this later when im bored, but right now, I need to go farm some more ectoplasm in guild wars
[12:06] <treth> SEJeff:  Hmm . . .
[12:06] <SEJeff> xst, Reboot the computer. Select (recovery mode)
[12:06] <New2UbuntuGuy> :D
[12:06] <xst> Mabus06: ok - and that gives me a set of options?
[12:06] <odat> SEJeff, many many things but i dawned on me that the big developers and the commercial developers are not going to develope software for a new market and pay to do it (qt) when they can develope for that same market for free (gtk)
[12:06] <Mabus06> yes, xst
[12:06] <polpak> cary, you cannot
[12:06] <New2UbuntuGuy> thank you thank you thank you, the support in here is wonderful :)
[12:06] <micahf> would anyone be interested in helping me design a distribution for grandmothers and grandfathers?
[12:07] <Mabus06> right after your memory is checked or whatever, and right before the ubuntu stuff starts loading
[12:07] <micahf> focusing on dialup internet and fast and simple usability?
[12:07] <kemik> New2UbuntuGuy:  haha omg.. u made me install xpenguins
[12:07] <polpak> cary, the only possible option is to boot into single user mode
[12:07] <kremonte> my grandfather has used debian since it's release =P
[12:07] <kemik> thats so sille
[12:07] <odat> micahf, sounds like fun what do you want?
[12:07] <kemik> silly
[12:07] <cary> polpak, so how can i create a user that CAN see the package manager? i only want one account and i want it to be named cary, and i want it to be an admin
[12:07] <New2UbuntuGuy> I sure hope when I have a handle on this stuff I can lend some knowledge back to the community :)
[12:07] <SEJeff> odat, That is why Sun, HP, and now Novell are focusing much more on gnome/gtk
[12:07] <New2UbuntuGuy> Thank you again!
[12:07] <odat> micahf, stick with ubuntu and or gnome
[12:07] <kremonte> cyphase: ubotu =P
[12:07] <micahf> gnome is slow
[12:07] <fractas> i need some help
[12:07] <micahf> I'm using xfce
[12:07] <cyphase> i.e. if someone asks "how do i change repos?"
[12:07] <micahf> and tango icons
[12:07] <odat> SEJeff, nice to know i think like them lol
[12:07] <cyphase> the bot will answer automatically
[12:08] <micahf> with nautilus
[12:08] <cyphase> and other things of course
[12:08] <Jrex-Linux> Whats the command in terminal to change the title of the conole?
[12:08] <cary> polpak, is SUM command line only? and should it be this hard to be able to see the freaking package manager? it worked straight away last time i installed
[12:08] <cyphase> not just that :P
[12:08] <Jrex-Linux> *console
[12:08] <fractas> how i change an rpm package to a debian package
[12:08] <micahf> xfce is fast
[12:08] <cyphase> fractas, alien
[12:08] <micahf> fast as heck
[12:08] <odat> micahf, not a chance besides i've tested dapper and gnome friggin flies
[12:08] <fractas> i wish to install kylix on ubuntu the 2.0 version
[12:08] <polpak> cary, the problem is that the first time you installed it created your user as admin
[12:08] <SEJeff> Jrex-Linux, Are you using gnome?
[12:08] <Jrex-Linux> yes
[12:08] <xst> Mabus06: cool, thanks
[12:08] <polpak> cary, (which is the default)
[12:08] <odat> micahf, also gnome is much easier to use   (not so confusing) opposed to kde
[12:09] <SEJeff> micahf, gnome in dapper is much faster. Thats what I'm running right now
[12:09] <kemik> SEJeff:  isnt QT a nicer api than gtk tho ? (or so i gathered from the little i've read)
[12:09] <Jrex-Linux> Whats the command in terminal to change the title of the console?
[12:09] <odat> micahf, the next release of gnome which is currently in dapper is all about optimizing
[12:09] <kremonte> are we amidst a gnome vs kde thing right now? O_o
[12:09] <cyphase> uh oh
[12:09] <polpak> cary, if you created a new user that did not have admin priveleges and are using that one then a secure system should not allow you to upgrade your privileges
[12:09] <Jrex-Linux> I need to add it to an .sh file
[12:09] <sadowski> can anyone here help me with setting up sound on a gateway laptop? pm please
[12:09] <odat> SEJeff, here here thanks sejeff
[12:09] <SEJeff> kemik, thats something for #ubuntu-offtopic and I'd rather not get into the merits of
[12:09] <IdleOne> anybody know how to create a launcher on the desktop using a one button mouse?
[12:09] <cary> polpak, so...i am fine with totally reinstalling the system. ive not  modified hardly anything. im basically defautl setup as i am. so on reintstall what should to avoid this?
[12:09] <jahshua--> hey what do i need to play .mov files, which plugin ?
[12:09] <micahf> wow
[12:09] <kemik> SEJeff:  yeah i guess
[12:09] <SEJeff> IdleOne, don't use a mac?
[12:09] <micahf> colloquy is incredible
[12:09] <sadowski> can anyone here help me with setting up sound on a gateway laptop? pm please
[12:09] <kemik> will gnome be using Cairo in dapper?
[12:10] <IdleOne> SEJeff:  not an option at this point
[12:10] <cary> polpak, this is th eonly user i created other than root
[12:10] <christian_> Which is the best torrent client for Linux? :P
[12:10] <odat> kemik, my gnome and gtk apps are beautiful  you can make it look like you want
[12:10] <SEJeff> kemik, clearlooks uses cairo in dapper
[12:10] <cary> polpak, and it snot like i really "created" root
[12:10] <beruic> I'm having some problems installing Skype, can anybody help me? I miss a package called libqt3c102-mt which is replaced by libqt3-mt (i have that one installed, but it doesn't work).
[12:10] <odat> kemik, i use nuvola  and luv it
[12:10] <SEJeff> Jrex-Linux, in gnome-terminal go to the menu Terminal --> Change Title
[12:10] <kemik> odat:  ati or nvidia?
[12:10] <PeteyPablo> how do i copy music to my ipod using gtkpod?
[12:10] <jahshua--> what do i need to play .mov files, which plugin ?
[12:10] <Delvien> is todays update stable for dapper?
[12:11] <kemik> odat:  care to make a screenshot? :)
[12:11] <B-166_ER-X> or Amaranth  another of my problem, might or might not be related : aMSN (no, not the freezing bug) ... when i try to run it in terminal it makes : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6553 , but if i run it in Sudo, ir runs ok... but says 2 line about destroying .mi and .si , as you can see in the screenshot
[12:11] <odat> kemik, i have a nvidia card
[12:11] <fractas> i wish to install the kylix2 open edition on ubuntu and need some help
[12:11] <kemik> bugger.. i think Cairo wont go well with ati
[12:11] <SEJeff> Delvien, If you are not comfortable with the internals of linux and fixing things when they break/filing bug reports. do NOT use dapper.
[12:11] <kemik> read something along those lines
[12:11] <Jrex-Linux> SEJeff, I need the command
[12:11] <SEJeff> Jrex-Linux, There is no command
[12:11] <scott_> I have a simple question..
[12:11] <Jrex-Linux> :(
[12:11] <kemik> scott_:  :shoot
[12:11] <SEJeff> Jrex-Linux, If you use gnome-terminal. Do it like that
[12:12] <Delvien> SEJeff did i ask you if i should be using dapper? no ....!!!!
[12:12] <fractas> someone knows how to install kylix on ubuntu... this is important to me
[12:12] <polpak> cary, pastebin your /etc/group file
[12:12] [serayuzgur(n=serayuzg@212.175.240.155)]  hi
[12:12] <SEJeff> Delvien, And am I going to answer your original question? no...!!!!
[12:12] <scott_> I just installed Ubuntu, I love it but how do I install a package from a deb file?
[12:12] [serayuzgur(n=serayuzg@212.175.240.155)]  can i ask stng
[12:12] <Jrex-Linux> SEJeff, I need the command, to put into a script
[12:12] <kremonte> SEJeff: it changes when you cahnge directories :-(
[12:12] <polpak> scott_, what package?
[12:12] <scott_> I have the Ubuntu version of Opera..
[12:12] <sporkbomb> scott_: check out the man page for dpkg
[12:12] <polpak> scott_, in general you should install things from the repos
[12:13] <Delvien> SEjeff dont comment if you are going to be a prick
[12:13] <odat> kemik, there ya go
[12:13] <kemik> odat:  thx!
[12:13] <beruic> I'm having some problems installing Skype, can anybody help me? I miss a package called libqt3c102-mt which i can't get. It is replaced by libqt3-mt which I have installed, but it doesn't work.
[12:13] <zazza> hi all
[12:13] <IdleOne> is there a keyboard shortcut for the right click?
[12:13] <SEJeff> Delvien, You are the one being rude. I simply said if you don't know how to fix it, don't use it. I run dapper right now. So you are the one that needs to chill dude
[12:14] <cary> polpak, what is the command to open "group" up to be able to copy it. i can see it in /etc  but...how do i open i
[12:14] <odat> kemik, hold one more
[12:14] <fractas> help
[12:14] <beruic> I'm having some problems installing Skype, can anybody help me? I miss a package called libqt3c102-mt which i can't get. It is replaced by libqt3-mt which I have installed, but it doesn't work.
[12:14] <polpak> cary, cat /etc/group
[12:14] <cvt|gnuyear> polpak, how do i know if i'm using an NForce2-based motherboard?
[12:14] <polpak> beruic, stop spamming please
[12:14] <polpak> ubotu tell beruic about patience
[12:14] <scott_> ok.. I'll check the man pages.. thanks guys..
[12:14] <kemik> !tell beruic about skype
[12:14] <beruic> I heard u
[12:15] <Delvien> SEJeff did i say i didnt know how to fix it? no , i said is it stable.  Maybe some of us dont have time to file bug reports tonight.. Maybe some of us just want to know if it will break somethin tonight so we can work on it.  I didnt ask for someones sarcastic and redundent remarks about i shouldnt use dapper, because guess what. If i was a total noob i wouldnt even use dapper, .
[12:15] <odat> kemik, this one has the file manager
[12:15] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, I'd assume you don't. If you run into trouble you can change that part of the Xorg.conf
[12:15] <_Casper> My installation is hanging after the 1st reboot.  ...boots back up, goes into configuring the base system and hangs at 0% "Preparing the installation."  Can anyone help?
[12:15] <zazza> am trying to burn audio cd using k3b when i choose the mp3  get error messege that its unable to handle that format how do i solve this
[12:15] <cary> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6554
[12:16] <SEJeff> Delvien, get a life dude. Dapper is deemed unstable and that is why it is in development. I run it because I like it and I do some development. If you want to see, install it for yourself
[12:16] <kemik> Delvien:  dapper is stable in april :) (or will be)
[12:16] <odat> SEJeff, although if pretty new to linux don't run dapper
[12:17] <Hobbsee> SEJeff: and Delvien and apparently X is going to break fairly soon, too
[12:17] <Delvien> SEJeff what are you 12? grow up and read what i say before you come back
[12:17] <kemik> but let's be more friendly and dont turn into #debian  ;)
[12:17] <fractas> i need some help with a installation
[12:17] <SEJeff> odat, Exactly. That is the comment I made earlier
[12:17] <Delvien> hobbsee THATS why i asked if it was stable in the first place :P
[12:17] <odat> SEJeff, lol sorry didn't see it
[12:17] <SEJeff> Delvien, I'm a 'nix systems admin, you?
[12:17] <odat> kemik, like the screenshots?
[12:17] <sorush20> how do I find out what version of xorg I have?
[12:17] <Hobbsee> Delvien: well, on my system, it's perfectly stable today, and i've just found that suspend works (yay!), but i cant guarentee about what it will be like tomorrow, or what things you
[12:18] <Delvien> SEJeff What does it matter what i do? At least im not a immature little boy
[12:18] <polpak> cary, you've somehow removed your admin group..
[12:18] <ajmitch> SEJeff, Delvien: just drop it
[12:18] <Hobbsee> Delvien: will have to do to make it work for you, like getting an internet connection
[12:18] <cary> polpak, ahahaha fantastic. what does that even mean.
[12:18] <Hobbsee> darn enter key is too close to the ' key!
[12:18] <kremonte> why the fighting :-(
[12:18] <SEJeff> sorush20, dpkg -l  xorg-common
[12:18] <Delvien> Hobbsee aye, stable on mine to 2.6.15-10-386
[12:18] <kemik> odat:  yeah they're nice :)
[12:18] <Lord_Athur> hi
[12:18] <Delvien> Hobbsee that was my problem in kernal 9
[12:18] <Hobbsee> ah right
[12:19] <odat> kemik, thanx i really like the nuvola theme everything highlights where it should in very crisp appearance
[12:19] <kemik> odat:  isit available on gnomelook?
[12:19] <odat> kemik, prolly but i get it through synaptic
[12:19] <SEJeff> cary: you need to reboot into recovery mode and add it back. I'll give you the commands if you want
[12:19] <kemik> oh
[12:20] <kemik> didnt know themes were available thru synaptic/apt
[12:20] <fractas> #flood "i need some help to install kylix 2 open edition on a ubuntu linux"
[12:20] <polpak> cary, my group file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6555
[12:20] <odat> kemik, yea its a package called gnome theme extras
[12:20] <Seveas> fractas, asking specific questions is better
[12:20] <metho> good evening, i have trouble with my microphoen, ubuntu doesnt recognise it for some strange reasons
[12:20] <concept10> kemik, odat check out this theme: http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot19zb.png
[12:20] <fractas> like what?
[12:20] <polpak> cary, as you can see, the group admin (just after scanner) is missing in your file
[12:20] <fractas> seveas, like what?
[12:21] <Seveas> fractas, well, like the things you need to know...
[12:21] <polpak> cary, it needs to be there, and your user needs to be in it in order to access sudo
[12:21] <cary> SEJeff, by all means
[12:21] <metho> could someone tell me how to configure microphone in ubuntu
[12:21] <Lord_Athur> hi there
[12:21] <cary> polpak, so what can i do about this?
[12:21] <odat> concept10, thats pretty nice what is that called?
[12:22] <fractas> seveas, i need to know how to install kylix 2 open edition on ubuntu, because they came on rpm version
[12:22] <Lord_Athur> I've got any problems mounting a file look at it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[12:22] <Delvien> hobbsee while in a session of VI , how do i save the configuration file ?
[12:22] <polpak> kemik, even better you can apt-get install gnome-art and pick and choose from hundreds of themes
[12:22] <SEJeff> cary, Ok. reboot the computer and select recovery mode. Once you are at a root shell (#) type vigr
[12:22] <fractas> and don't work after the installation
[12:22] <Seveas> fractas, rpms are bad, better get the source and compile it
[12:22] <SEJeff> cary, That should open your group file up in nano as it is the default editor for ubuntu
[12:22] <fractas> i don't have the source
[12:22] <concept10> odat, on gnome-look, look for vista, right now im using a bluevista theme, it makes gnome look brand new :)
[12:22] <fractas> so i cannot compile it
[12:22] <Seveas> fractas, then get it...
[12:22] <kemik> omg
[12:22] <kemik> i'll be theme-chaning all nite ;)
[12:22] <Seveas> kemik, rofl
[12:23] <SEJeff> cary, then you need to add a line just like this 'admin:x:106:jeff' and replace jeff with your username
[12:23] <Lord_Athur> HEY I've got any problems mounting a file look at it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[12:23] <fractas> there is a way to transform a rpm into a deb package?
[12:23] <zezu> my ubuntu is starting to act strangely,  it takes longer to boot and i can't seem to open whatever it uses as a graphical filesystem manager
[12:23] <wucked> hi there... i done all the FixVideoResolutionHowto offerd but still it says "(ee) RADEON(0)No valid modes found"
[12:23] <Seveas> fractas, yes, but it's not guaranteed to work
[12:23] <zezu> anyone know why this might happen ?
[12:23] <fractas> because i don't know where to get the source code
[12:23] <gerald-volt> anyone know what package i need to install for this error?
[12:23] <kemik> Seveas:  well it's alot better than writing a report/commenting code :)
[12:23] <gerald-volt> Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed
[12:23] <cary> SEJeff, so the x and the 106 needs to stay like that?
[12:23] <kemik> gerald-volt:  trying to get skype working ?
[12:23] <fractas> i buy a book and the program came together
[12:23] <Seveas> gerald-volt, what are you installing?
[12:23] <kemik> !tell gerald-volt about skype
[12:24] <SEJeff> cary, yes. Make it stay exactly like that
[12:24] <cary> and 'vigr' is the full command at the root shell?
[12:24] <gerald-volt> i'm trying to install varicad
[12:24] <SEJeff> cary, yes
[12:24] <zezu> ie: if i goto places: Computer, all i get is a taskbar saying "Starting Computer" then it disappears
[12:24] <cary> well here goes i guess
[12:24] <fractas> Seveas, sorry for the trouble
[12:24] <cary> SEJeff, does it matter when i add the line?
[12:25] <odat> concept10, i don't see bluevista
[12:25] <Seveas> fractas, kylix does not support Ubuntu, Ubuntu does not support kylix, You might need red hat for it to be supportd
[12:25] <zezu> shit terminal is doing the same
[12:25] <zezu> something really is broke
[12:25] <SEJeff> cary, just a sec... in nano, things like ^O mean you hit CTRL O. Not it doesn't. But you might just do it at the very end
[12:25] <Delvien> Seveas hey bro maybe you can answer this for me, in "vi" whats the keymap to save the file
[12:25] <tbw> Does anyone here know the blogger.com xmlrpc url?
[12:25] <B-166_ER-X> my problem, might or might not be related to my k3b bug : aMSN (no, not the freezing bug) ... when i try to run it in terminal it makes : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6553 , but if i run it in Sudo, ir runs ok... but says 2 line about destroying .mi and .si , as you can see in the screenshot
[12:25] <tbw> It simply doesnt fucking exist on blogger.com
[12:25] <tbw> or google for that matter
[12:25] <Seveas> Delvien, <ESC>:w
[12:25] <SEJeff> cary, ^O is to save the file and then ^X is to exit nano. Then just type reboot and it should be fixed
[12:25] <meepy> Anyone using vsftpd?
[12:25] <fractas> really :(
[12:25] <mwe> fractas: I don
[12:25] <zezu> brb, reverting to console
[12:26] <mwe> fractas: I don't think kylix is open source
[12:26] <cary> SEJeff, awesome . thank you
[12:26] <Seveas> fractas, you may have luck with alien (converting rpm to deb)
[12:26] <Seveas> but that's not guaranteed
[12:26] <arango> Solved --- "Unable to open device usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ
[12:26] <arango> : No Such Device"
[12:26] <fractas> i have red hat but they don't detect all my hardware
[12:26] <Delvien> seveas i press esc nothing , esc and W nothing
[12:26] <cary> SEJeff, is that a zero or an OH
[12:26] <fractas> works bad
[12:26] <SEJeff> Delvien, :w. you forgot the colon
[12:26] <Seveas> Delvien, <ESC> is to get into command mode, :w is to write the file
[12:26] <fractas> and my version of kylix is open edition, i received it free of charge
[12:26] <metho> could u please tell me why my microphone isnt working in Linux
[12:27] <SEJeff> cary, OH as in the letter
[12:27] <Seveas> metho, maybe it's muted
[12:27] <Delvien> seveas aye  but i dont get the command mode
[12:27] <cary> SEJeff, thanks. be back asap
[12:27] <kemik> odat:  mmh, nuvola is nice, but a bit too heavy borders in my taste
[12:27] <Seveas> Delvien, hint: vimtutor
[12:27] <Seveas> or use nano ;)
[12:27] <metho> Seveas, good point, didnt check that, lol
[12:27] <fractas> alien hmmm did they came with ubuntu?
[12:27] <odat> kemik, you mean the blue is to dark?
[12:27] <Delvien> Seveas im editing Alternative.h, wont save under nano
[12:28] <kemik> odat:  nah , too "wide"
[12:28] <kemik> i like it more slimmed
[12:28] <odat> kemik, ahhh i c
[12:28] <gerald-volt> hrrm, my computer says I already have libqt3-mt installed, but i still get this error
[12:28] <gerald-volt> Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[12:28] <gerald-volt> same with this
[12:28] <Markbb-> uninstall and reinstall ?
[12:28] <gerald-volt> Package kdelibs4 is not installed.
[12:28] <fractas> back to start point ouch
[12:28] <Seveas> gerald-volt, which sotware are you installing?
[12:29] <gerald-volt> varicad
[12:29] <wucked> hi there... i done all the FixVideoResolutionHowto offerd but still it says "(ee) RADEON(0)No valid modes found" can anyone help??
[12:29] <odat> kemik, one of the reasons i like it because it changes everything i don't have to track down matching stuff. I have converted a few people to linux and i'm their tech guy and nuvola just made it so easy for me to set them up
[12:29] <gerald-volt> http://www.varicad.com/download.phtml
[12:29] <Delvien> seveas says cant open file for writing
[12:29] <Seveas> gerald-volt, get the deb sources and recompile. The .deb is created for Debian and will not work on Ubuntu
[12:29] <Blocky> How do I find out my network IP address?
[12:29] <wucked> my screen goes black but i can hear the startup sound playing
[12:29] <Seveas> Delvien, chmod +w file...
[12:29] <Taa5i> When I get to the Partition Disks stage of the installer, it gives me the option to manually edit partition table, but there is nothing there to edit at all.  Any ideas please?
[12:29] <bow> dose any one know if the ipw2200b/g works with airodump?
[12:29] <zazza> am trying to burn audio cd using k3b when i choose the mp3  get error messege that its unable to handle that format how do i solve this
[12:30] <SEJeff> Blocky, ifconfig eth0
[12:30] <gerald-volt> there's no deb source for it
[12:30] <ThePyromaniac> hey, i installed gnomebaker to burn some CD's for a warez windows, but now my CD drive gives me errors and suddenly i have CDRW/DVDRW (2)
[12:30] <Seveas> !tall zazza about mp3
[12:30] <ubotu> Seveas: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:30] <Seveas> !tell zazza about mp3
[12:30] <Blocky> SEJeff, Thanks
[12:30] <odat> zazza, i would use serpentine
[12:30] <gerald-volt> http://www.varicad.com/download.phtml
[12:30] <gerald-volt> those are the only versions
[12:30] <kemik> odat:  yeah it's very nice.. but i must change the border-width :)
[12:30] <Seveas> gerald-volt, then you're basically screwed
[12:30] <gerald-volt> :P
[12:30] <gerald-volt> so much for that
[12:30] <monkey050> Can I get some help regarding the Hoary Hedgehog LiveCD, please?
[12:31] <zezu> damn filesystem was read only somehow
[12:31] <metho> Seveas: microphone is not muted anymore but still i cannot recored anything
[12:31] <fractas> seveas, do you have this alien?
[12:31] <Seveas> fractas, no, I only have ET...
[12:31] <valberg> hey! how do i install freevo on ubuntu 5.10  ?
[12:31] <Seveas> fractas, apt-get install alien
[12:31] <odat> kemik, you made me discover something   wow   try nuvola old as your window border
[12:31] <PeteyPablo> OMFG.
[12:31] <Seveas> !+info freevo
[12:31] <ubotu> Package 'freevo' does not exist.
[12:31] <Seveas> !+info freevo dapper
[12:31] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[12:31] <ubotu> Package 'freevo' does not exist.
[12:31] <Seveas> PeteyPablo, 'sup?
[12:32] <PeteyPablo> Seveas: i cannot get the ipod to work with ubuntu no matter what i do, tried gtkpod amarok etc
[12:32] <Seveas> valberg, get the sources, ./congure, make, make install...
[12:32] <monkey050> Can I get some help regarding the Hoary Hedgehog LiveCD, please?
[12:32] <Stormx2> ./configure*
[12:32] <kemik> odat:  i just choose clearlooks as windowborder. much nicer! :)
[12:32] <Seveas> PeteyPablo, hmm, you'd be the first
[12:32] <Friar_tuck> Hi.. What is a good bluetooth dongle/headet pair for ubuntu?
[12:32] <PeteyPablo> Seveas: ..
[12:32] <fractas> seveas, ok thanks for the help
[12:32] <SEJeff> odat: Have you seen clearlooks 2 as the window border?
[12:32] <odat> kemik, i will try it
[12:32] <steve__> anyone recommend a small text editor (similar to notepad) that is fat to load and easy to use?
[12:32] <PeteyPablo> Read-only file system).
[12:32] <steve__> fast to load
[12:33] <PeteyPablo> it keeps telling me that
[12:33] <Stormx2> steve__: gedit?
[12:33] <Stormx2> steve__: emacs, vim?
[12:33] <arango> Solved --- "Unable to open device usb://HP/Business%20Inkjet%201200?serial=TH4A8110NJ
[12:33] <odat> SEJeff, clearlooks is nice however a little kde ish
[12:33] <Friar_tuck> Anyone here have a bluetooth headset?
[12:33] <Stormx2> whats wrong with KDE?
[12:33] <steve__> thanks........
[12:34] <odat> Stormx2, visually nothing
[12:34] <Draken> can someone help me fix this ? get it from apt-get
[12:34] <SEJeff> odat, It's very blue, but it fits in nicely. http://digitalprognosis.com/pics/Screenshot.png
[12:34] <Draken> Segmentation faulty tree... 0%
[12:34] <monkey050> I need help.
[12:34] <odat> SEJeff, with nuvola you mean?
[12:34] <Stormx2> Draken: Fix what?
[12:34] <zezu> i i pressed ctrl+alt+backspace does it actually restart Xorg or just logout and back in /
[12:35] <Draken> Stormx2, its getting stuck there, no matter wat i apt-get
[12:35] <polpak> zezu, it restarts the X server
[12:35] <SEJeff> odat, no, that screenshot is clearlooks2 window theme, clearlooks gtk theme, and redhat's bluecurve icons
[12:35] <Seveas> zezu, restart
[12:35] <wucked> aye aye i found the nut! the dtiming of the videocard is standard 1440x900@70 how can i ad this in xorg.conf>
[12:35] <Stormx2> Draken: Stuck where?!
[12:35] <wucked> ?
[12:35] <cary> SEJeff, grrr. THINK i have modified the file, but i cant get out of vigr
[12:35] <Draken> Segmentation faulty tree... 0%
[12:35] <zezu> damn .. i updated to newer ati drivers last night
[12:35] <zezu> and i dont have any errors now
[12:35] <quidam> how i can know my X server version?
[12:36] <zezu> in xorg log or dmesg
[12:36] <zezu> but still no hw accell
[12:36] <wucked> zezu i have error with my x700
[12:36] <bow> what do irc scripts do?
[12:36] <skon> What is the device file for the line-in? Does anyone know?
[12:36] <SEJeff> cary, CTRL O to save and CTRL X to exit
[12:36] <cary> SEJeff, i added the line at the end but nothing i hti lets me out of this place. at the very bottom in white it says "INSERT-recording"
[12:36] <Stormx2> Draken: tried sudo apt-get update?
[12:36] <cary> SEJeff, ive tried that
[12:36] <zezu> and glxinfo seems to think i'm still using mesa3d for opengl ;|
[12:36] <fractas> unload
[12:36] <Delvien> hmm Yelp is in ubuntu now?
[12:36] <SEJeff> cary is it vi or nano?
[12:36] <Lord_Athur> I've got any problems mounting a file look at it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6471
[12:37] <cary> SEJeff, seems to be vi, not nano
[12:37] <SEJeff> cary: ok
[12:37] <zezu> wucked, yea ati drivers suck
[12:37] <odat> SEJeff, its nice but i think the clearlooks borders looks better with nuvola
[12:37] <cary> SEJeff, i thought nano was default? apparentlky not?
[12:37] <SEJeff> cary, do this: export EDITOR=nano; vigr
[12:37] <Friar_tuck> I'm lloking for a bluetooth dongle but I dunno which one works best with Ubuntu
[12:37] <Draken> ta Stormx2
[12:37] <cary> SEJeff, do that where man. i cant get out of vi
[12:37] <zezu> according to lsmod nothing with "ati" is loaded ;|
[12:38] <Stormx2> Draken: worked?
[12:38] <SEJeff> cary, hit ESC then type :wq
[12:38] <Draken> ya ta
[12:38] <PuRo> i need help with amarok...when i try to play a file it says that oss/dev/ is already used by another program but i dont have no other music player running or listening to anything..any idea on how i can fix this?
[12:38] <SEJeff> cary, actually, type ESC and then :q!
[12:38] <zezu> i'd really like to port some software to linux, but it is going to require hardware accelleration
[12:38] <Delvien> Woot Vmware is now running in 2.6.15-10-386 kernal !
[12:38] <Delvien> kernel * :P
[12:38] <Stormx2> lolz v1m r b3tar
[12:38] <wucked> hmmm i found the error please can anyone help.... my ddcprobe doesnt report the vertRefresh and the horizSync how can i found out what to use?
[12:39] <cary> SEJeff, okay that changed stuff i guess
[12:39] <SEJeff> cary, Are you in nano now?
[12:39] <kemik> thx for the tip odat , now running a customized nuvola ;)
[12:39] <cary> SEJeff, i am again looking at this bloody file. after admin:x:106:cary it says ":q!" now
[12:39] <odat> kemik, no prob
[12:39] <PeteyPablo> !ipod
[12:39] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[12:40] <SEJeff> cary, are you in vi or nano?
[12:40] <SEJeff> cary, right now
[12:40] <pi9inE> what am I doing wrong damn?
[12:40] <Friar_tuck> !bluetooth
[12:40] <ubotu> from memory, bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[12:40] <odat> kemik, i went straight back to standard nuvola lol
[12:40] <pi9inE> i've extracted this time my .iso
[12:40] <pi9inE> and burned as bootable DVD
[12:40] <cary> SEJeff, okay i thikn i got out of it. i tsays group is uncahnged
[12:40] <pi9inE> and still getting msg 602-diskette boot record error
[12:40] <kemik> odat:   :P
[12:41] <SEJeff> cary, ok type 'export EDITOR=nano; vigr' without the quotes
[12:41] <cary> SEJeff now im in nano
[12:41] <Teclis> I have problem with the bmpx-player. The player crashes at startup. I think it's a right-problem, because the player starts normally as root.
[12:41] <mwe> pi9inE: burn it again at the slowest possible speed
[12:41] <cary> SEJeff rebooting
[12:41] <Teclis> Can anyone help me?
[12:41] <kemik> Teclis:  dont start it as root +
[12:41] <kemik> ?
[12:41] <pi9inE> mwe: it's on 4x
[12:41] <pi9inE> my drive at notebook can read 24
[12:42] <pi9inE> but can be really problem cause it's on DVD?
[12:42] <SEJeff> cary, you added your username to the end of the admin line after the last :, right?
[12:42] <pi9inE> any suggestions?
[12:42] <mwe> pi9inE: I'd try burning it at 1x speed
[12:42] <cary> SEJeff, yeah, just like you said the first time
[12:42] <odat> gnome rocks!
[12:42] <pi9inE> mwe: dude, i'll try again by your tip
[12:42] <cary> SEJeff : 'admin:x:106:cary'
[12:42] <pi9inE> 2 DVDs gone atm
[12:42] <pi9inE> f0k
[12:42] <SuperNova> hi!
[12:43] <Teclis> kemik: ok, run it as root isn't very nice.
[12:43] <foampeace> hi
[12:43] <mwe> pi9inE: maybe it's not the problem you have but a lot of folks has fixed it by burning at slower speeds
[12:43] <cary> wow. first time ive ever heard the start up sound.
[12:43] <monkey050> can i please get help with the Hedgehog LiveCD??????
[12:43] <SuperNova> im about to install ubuntu uppon a arrival of my hew HDD, but there are something in not sure about
[12:43] <SEJeff> cary, Good. That will fix sudo.
[12:43] <pi9inE> mwe: i got you, lemme try again
[12:43] <foampeace> how do i have like a sub ubuntu system inside the ubuntu system just for compiling stuff
[12:43] <Seveas> foampeace, chroot
[12:44] <cary> actually synaptic still wont open
[12:44] <Seveas> foampeace, pbuilder is a nice chroot setup
[12:44] <monkey050> Is there anyone here who can help me with the LiveCD?
[12:44] <metho> is there a yahoo messenger for ubuntu
[12:44] <SEJeff> cary, open up System --> Administration --> Users and Groups
[12:44] <mwe> metho: gaim, kopete are two
[12:44] <kemik> Teclis:  shouldnt run anything as root, unless it requires it
[12:44] <metho> gaim wouldnt let me use the voice conversation
[12:45] <mwe> metho: but I believe you can dl a linux version from yahoo.com if you insist on using yahoo messenger
[12:45] <SEJeff> metho, I believe gaim 2.0 will support voice chat. It should be out fairly soon
[12:45] <SuperNova> ubutu is going to be installet on my curren hdd, (partitionized as C/D/E), can the ubuntuinstall change the filformat on "C" to the correct filesystem for ubuntu WITHOUT changing/damagin D and E?
[12:45] <monkey050> Bye.
[12:45] <kemik> SuperNova:  yes
[12:45] <metho> i see!
[12:45] <cary> SEJeff it says its starting it then the busy mouse goes away and no window opens
[12:45] <cvt|gnuyear> Is it better to close the browswer, xchat, system monitor, and xine before shutting down?
[12:45] <pixelmonkey> what is the ubuntu-sanctioned way of making sure modules load at start-up?  I just realized that ubuntu wasn't loading ehci-hcd, so I was accessing USB jump drives with 1.1 speeds!
[12:45] <mwe> metho: I think kopete does. it has full web cam support at least  so I'd guess voice chat was also supported
[12:46] <foampeace> Seveas: isnt there something that does it
[12:46] <SEJeff> cary, open up a terminal and type 'groups cary'
[12:46] <kemik> SuperNova:  but make sure you know which partition "C" is /dev/hdXY
[12:46] <Teclis> kemik: I will never do again. But that doesn't solve my problem.
[12:46] <SuperNova> how do i do that?
[12:46] <SEJeff> cary, also type 'sudo -l' as in L in a terminal
[12:46] <mwe> metho: or get the original yahoo messenger of yahoo.com
[12:46] <foampeace> Seveas: you know of a site about having a chroot ubuntu sub environment?
[12:46] <metho> mwe: how can i long on to kopete cos i dont see any button that says log on
[12:47] <mwe> metho: you have to configure an account first
[12:47] <kemik> Teclis: maybe try something like "sudo chmod -R youruser:youruser ~/.bmpx
[12:47] <metho> mwe: i did
[12:47] <Diffindo> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Hoary on an older system and I keep getting an error msg like this.
[12:47] <kemik> Teclis:  to restor file-ownership
[12:47] <metho> mwe: but still no joy
[12:47] <zezu> i see in xorg log that it loads ati_drv.o and there are no warnings or errors, but i do not see it in lsmod
[12:47] <cary_> SEJeff, cary : cary adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner crontab
[12:48] <polpak> SuperNova, you should check out the dual boot wiki
[12:48] <Diffindo> ISOLINUX (... something something) trying to wing it.
[12:48] <mwe> metho: can't you right click the systray icon and use set status?
[12:48] <polpak> ubotu tell SuperNova about dualboot
[12:48] <foampeace> Seveas: i found it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29
[12:48] <SuperNova> does ubuntu require a separate partition for swap?
[12:48] <Teclis> kemik: I will try. Thank you.
[12:48] <Diffindo> something like that.
[12:48] <cary_> SEJeff, Sorry, user cary may not run sudo on localhost.
[12:48] <polpak> SuperNova, it is generally recommended
[12:48] <SEJeff> cary_: you aren't in the admin group, strange. the admin group is what gives you sudo access
[12:48] <mwe> metho: or point to your account name and see the options for status for it?
[12:48] <metho> mwe: i can and its set online atm but i cannot see any of my contacts
[12:48] <cary> SEJeff, well i added that line. should i pasteboard my group file?
[12:49] <SEJeff> cary_, pastebin /etc/group and /etc/sudoers
[12:49] <metho> kopete is gray atm
[12:49] <SuperNova> polpak okey...
[12:49] <grayman> hey. any idea why dvd can lag when using mplayer?
[12:49] <odat> grayman, dma
[12:49] <grayman> also why it gives video noise
[12:49] <polpak> SEJeff, sudoers is fine AFAIK cary just somehow removed the admin group.
[12:49] <SuperNova> but all this is included in the ubutu install? i mean format and partition software..
[12:49] <SEJeff> cary, and how did you manage to delete your admin group anyways?
[12:49] <SEJeff> polpak, thanks
[12:50] <polpak> SuperNova, yes
[12:50] <SuperNova> okey nice...
[12:50] <mwe> metho: well I don't know why that is. don't use yahoo msngr myself. I see my buddies in icq though and in msn too
[12:50] <grayman> odat, and how to solve it?
[12:50] <BaalBehrit> hey.. i have wireless net, and it has a very bad signal to access point. so i have to change bit rate from 11 mb/s to 1 mb/s to work, but in ubuntu, it won`t do it, when i do iwconfig, it still says 11 mb/s. i tried in win, and it works, but it ubuntu it won`t. i changed rate with command iwconfig wlan0 rate 1 fixed.. what is the solution for this?
[12:50] <ubuntu_JONSON> anyoone know one program for centrino support for injetk packet (airodump not support)
[12:50] <SuperNova> any tips for a newbee?
[12:50] <cary_> SEJeff, dude. i have not done a damn thing. i installed. thats it.
[12:50] <odat> grayman, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86603&highlight=dma+dvd
[12:50] <grayman> thanks
[12:50] <metho> mwe: i'll try msn now to see if it is working
[12:50] <SEJeff> cary_, I've never heard of that happening, very weird
[12:50] <SEJeff> cary_, well pastebin it and I'll take a look
[12:50] <cary_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6557 SEJeff
[12:51] <kemik> Teclis:  did it work ?
[12:51] <cary> permission denied to list sudoers
[12:51] <cary> SEJeff, oops. permission denied to cat sudoes
[12:52] <SEJeff> cary_, on your system, group id 106 is crontab, on mine, crontab is 107 and admin is 106. That is your problem
[12:52] <zezu> modules loaded by the kernel by default like glx are not listed in lsmod ?
[12:52] <micahf> hey what do people think of this icon?
[12:52] <micahf> http://micahfitch.com/include/design/caminoicon.png
[12:52] <zezu> only .so files maybe ?
[12:52] <micahf> for camino the web browser
[12:53] <cary> SEJeff, so reboot, change admin to 107? what can i do?
[12:53] <polpak> SEJeff, but changing crontab to 107 will still be a problem because ssh is 107 cary's system
[12:53] <SEJeff> cary_, You're going to need to reboot again so that you can edit /etc/group. Change 106 on the admin line to be 113
[12:53] <Teclis> kemik: no. I have deleted the .bmpx directory, that worked for me
[12:53] <metho> mwe: msn works fine but yahoo doesnt work at all
[12:53] <polpak> SEJeff, yeah, that'll work
[12:53] <SEJeff> polpak, Yes, I noticed that. So I picked 113 because it's the first available
[12:53] <mwe> metho: I don't know why. could it be a firewall issue maybe?
[12:54] <cary> SEJeff, doing that now
[12:54] <mwe> metho: I'm just guessing though
[12:54] <SEJeff> cary, Make sense what the problem is?
[12:54] <monkey050> Can I get some help with the Hoary LiveCD??
[12:54] <SEJeff> monkey050, Just out of curiosity, why aren't you using the breezy livecd?
[12:54] <foampeace>  sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd]  [--arch i386]  breezy /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[12:54] <cary> SEJeff, yeah, like back in the day if something had the same IRQ or something
[12:54] <monkey050> Because I CBA to download it and I have the Hoary one available to me.
[12:54] <foampeace> E: No such script: breezy
[12:54] <SEJeff> monkey050, huge difference between the two
[12:55] <monkey050> I'm not concerned about the version.
[12:55] <SEJeff> cary, yeah, similar.
[12:55] <Teclis> kemik: Thanks for your help. :)
[12:55] <foampeace> who understands my error?
[12:55] <cary> SEJeff, basically two things have the same ID, right?
[12:55] <SEJeff> monkey050, Well the breezy livecd is much better than the hoary one. Using a newer one might fix your problems. Even though you never told us what your problem is
[12:55] <metho> mwe: no problem, i am reinstall and install again just to make sure if it is correctly installed
[12:55] <SEJeff> cary, correct
[12:56] <monkey050> Well, I've posted a thread in the forum which has gone 100% ignored...
[12:56] <SEJeff> cary, you just needed to make the admin group (the group with full sudo access) have a unique group id
[12:56] <theholylancer> hello
[12:56] <monkey050> I can't get it to show up, whatever's suppossed to show up after it goes through all the [ OK ]  things.
[12:56] <cary> SEJeff incidnetally, is there a way to modify grub to make windows the default boot? in case someone needs on that machine
[12:56] <SEJeff> cary, sure, thats easy
[12:56] <theholylancer> can anyone tell me ehy i cannot access the gnome termonal?
[12:57] <CodenameKT> monkey050: trust me in saying most likely no one has looked at it for it to be ignored
[12:57] <SEJeff> cary, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:57] <monkey050> There's only 1 view, CodenameKT.
[12:57] <monkey050> OK well now there's 9 now that I mentioned it.
[12:57] <cary> SEJeff, can i do that from within the ubuntu GUI?
[12:57] <CodenameKT> monkey050: so then only one person ignored ur problem or it is possible he did not have the answer
[12:57] <SEJeff> cary, not yet
[12:58] <monkey050> Ok, so that's why I'm asking here.
[12:58] <cary> SEJeff, or is that in recovery mode too
[12:58] <CodenameKT> monkey050: Your problem?
[12:58] <sadowski> help me, pm please
[12:58] <monkey050> I can't get whatever's suppossed to show up to show up.
[12:58] <theholylancer> where could i find the linux command line terminal within ubuntu?
[12:58] <SEJeff> cary, oh. No. do that in the gui unless you want to use nano. It's very easy in either or
[12:58] <monkey050> I have to skip PCMCIA autodetect for it to get all the way to starting the Live session.
[12:58] <CodenameKT> monkey050: Try to be specific. You can't even get the login screen to show?
[12:58] <sadowski> can someone help me set up my sound?
[12:58] <theholylancer> where i can use commands like ps or something?
[12:58] <bimberi> theholylancer: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[12:58] <monkey050> That's correct.
[12:58] <cary> theholylancer, i know this one! un applications > acc
[12:58] <cary> crap...someone beat me to it
[12:58] <cary> its like the one thing i know
[12:58] <monkey050> It'll just show a black screen and the CD stops spinning.
[12:58] <SEJeff> cary, type sudo -l again to make sure you have sudo access
[12:58] <theholylancer> o thank you!
[12:58] <bimberi> sorry cary :)
[12:59] <cary> bimberi, no worries. hah.
[12:59] <monkey050> I have a Sony VAIO VGN-FS780/W.
[12:59] <cary> SEJeff, my next problem is my screen res..but i think i coudlnt fix that last time as i didnt have sudo access
[12:59] <theholylancer> thanks all happy new year!
[12:59] <monkey050> The graphics card on it is a GeForce Go 6400.
[12:59] <sadowski> can someone help me set up my sound?
[12:59] <monkey050> I don't know if that makes a difference, but it seems like it goes through the setup fine until it's ready to load its logon screen or whatever.
[01:00] <SEJeff> cary, reboot back into x and the resolution should be pretty easy to fix from the gui
[01:00] <bimberi> !sound
[01:00] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:00] <cary____> SEJeff, YOUVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME
[01:00] <SEJeff> monkey050, Try the breezy livecd if you can download it. It might be a framebuffer issue that is fixed in a newer version of ubuntu
[01:00] <sadowski> bimberi: I've read those, they didnt help
[01:00] <cary____> SEJeff, the resi need isnt listed under screen res's
[01:01] <CodenameKT> monkey050: it is possible your media is bad. Seeing as how it is hoary you probably burned it awhile ago anywho. I would suggest before continuing to ask about this to get a version of breezy live cd and when burning do it at like 2x make sure the media is perfect and try again with latest
[01:01] <SEJeff> cary, System --> Preferences --> Screen Resolution
[01:01] <bimberi> sadowski: ok :(
[01:01] <cary> SEJeff, is telling me i cant sudo on localhost
[01:01] <SEJeff> cary, So you have to add it in xorg.conf and then restart X
[01:01] <cary> cary@lindex:~$ sudo -l
[01:01] <cary> Sorry, user cary may not run sudo on localhost.
[01:01] <SEJeff> cary, type 'groups cary'
[01:01] <monkey050> Meh.
[01:01] <cary> SEJeff, admin is listed now
[01:01] <monkey050> I don't know when I'm gonna get the time to do that, CodenameKT.
[01:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: I just went through setting up sound on my box... what's the problem you're having?
[01:01] <cary> synaptic gui window still doesnt open SEJeff
[01:02] <SEJeff> cary, synaptic is an administrative tool. If sudo isn't working, neither is synaptic
[01:02] <cary> SEJeff, doesnt even say "starting..."
[01:02] <monkey050> And I wouldn't know how to control the burn speed in the first place.  >_<
[01:02] <cary> SEJeff, well users and groups acts like it starts and then fails again
[01:02] <SEJeff> cary, Synaptic uses gksudo which uses sudo to open up with admin priviliges
[01:02] <monkey050> I downloaded the CD Image and burned it at my school.
[01:02] <xiaogil> somebody knows how to make work a wintv usb on ubuntu ?
[01:03] <CodenameKT> monkey050: alcohol 120% if you are buring from windows has it as soon as u try to burn disk
[01:03] <SEJeff> cary, You're problem makes 0 sense. Something happened to your computer. If there is nothing important on it, reinstall
[01:03] <SEJeff> cary, Are you still in recovery mode?
[01:03] <cary_> SEJeff, im back to GUI
[01:03] <CodenameKT> monkey050: do u have a burner at home?
[01:03] <SEJeff> cary_, you should have typed sudo -l before rebooting to make sure it was fixed :)
[01:03] <mikul> where should my wine config file be? i cant find it after installing wine..
[01:03] <monkey050> DVD+-RW
[01:04] <CodenameKT> monkey050: but not dsl?
[01:04] <SEJeff> mikul type winecfg
[01:04] <monkey050> Yes DSL
[01:04] <pjay_uk> just type winecfg in te
[01:04] <mikul> do i have to create one myself or what?
[01:04] <monkey050> But It's only 150Kbps and not fast enough for me!
[01:04] <CodenameKT> monkey050: so why not dl and burn at you home?
[01:04] <cary_> SEJeff.. ahahahaaha. im retarded.
[01:04] <sadowski> pumpernickle: well my sound card was detected and whatnot, but im getting no output
[01:04] <monkey050> CodenameKT, because I don't have the time to do it.
[01:04] <SEJeff> cary_, do enlighten me?
[01:04] <mikul> ok
[01:04] <mikul> , will try
[01:04] <monkey050> I don't leave my computer running for any reason anymore considering what happened to my old Sony.
[01:04] <cary> SEJeff, rebooting agian. woohoo
[01:05] <jahshua--> monkey: what happened to it?
[01:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: Have you tried running alsamixer and checking for muted channels?
[01:05] <monkey050> Something messed up with the harddrive first.
[01:05] <monkey050> Then something messed up during a windows Chkdsk
[01:05] <monkey050> Also, the right speaker blew out...
[01:05] <SEJeff> cary, I'm going to go grab some food real quick. Will brb in just a minute
[01:05] <cary> SEJeff, enlighten you on what
[01:05] <monkey050> The AC Adapter burned up...
[01:05] <CodenameKT> monkey050: I leave my computer running almost 24/7 and most common thing to go out is power supply every 12monthsd
[01:06] <bimberi> mike_: ~/.wine/config
[01:06] <SEJeff> cary, why you are retarted? for not checking to make sure you had sudo access first?
[01:06] <cary> SEJeff, okay. haha i likely wont get very far...ill just edit til you ge tback
[01:06] <monkey050> Well, this is a BRAND NEW Fall series FS laptop and I need it to run for another 5 years.
[01:06] <bimberi> mikul: ~/.wine/config (sorry mike_)
[01:06] <cary> SEJeff, i guess. i think im more uninformed than anything.
[01:06] <monkey050> So no more 24/7/365 running for this one, unless I need to access it with LogMeIn.com
[01:06] <CodenameKT> monkey050: well if it is a laptop i would suggest now running 24/7 because of battery lol
[01:06] <cary> SEJeff, but thats what i meant..the sudo -l thing
[01:06] <ubuntu_> salu tlm.................
[01:07] <mikul> bimberi, ok ;)
[01:07] <sadowski> pumpernickle: i checked for muted channels, theyre all good
[01:07] <monkey050> CodenameKT, that's what weakened the battery on the old one.
[01:07] <monkey050> _
[01:07] <cary> SEJeff you still thre?
[01:07] <mikul> should i install my windows programs as root or as my useraccount?
[01:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: Okay, there're a few other things I had to change to get my sound working properly.
[01:07] <CodenameKT> monkey050: understandable. Well if you don't want to use you laptop to dl the phile even tho i don't see much hurt in leaving it on one day I can't help u
[01:07] <mikul> what is best?
[01:07] <ubuntu_> chakira vous souetttttttt..b.annee
[01:08] <monkey050> Well, I guess I'll try Breezy at some point.  Maybe tomorrow after school if I get really really lucky to get the iso.
[01:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: One is # of channels - right click on the volume control in the menubar anbd choose "open volume control"
[01:08] <Seveas> !tell ubuntu_ about fr
[01:08] <SEJeff> cary, back
[01:08] <monkey050> But as for now I have TV shows I'm missing and homework to do.
[01:08] <monkey050> Bye
[01:08] <CodenameKT> monkey050: Itake it easy
[01:08] <cary> SEJeff when i type sudo -l it just says i can run "all" things or wahteger
[01:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: in that panel, select every checkbox in 'preferences'
[01:09] <SEJeff> cary, That is very good
[01:09] <SEJeff> cary, that means sudo is working
[01:09] <metho> how do u clean files that are not required anymore, for example useless files of software etc
[01:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: Then set the right number of channels in the drop-down menu in the options tab
[01:09] <cary> SEJeff, but im also logged in as root
[01:09] <SEJeff> ok
[01:09] <cary> SEJeff, so...cary i guess isnt helped yet? i dont get why my GUI is being so lame
[01:09] <SEJeff> do nano /etc/sudoers
[01:09] <SEJeff> cary, I will show you a way to fix this
[01:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: If you have more than two speakers, under teh switches tab, check 'duplicate front'
[01:10] <cary> SEJeff, it says i have to edit with visudo
[01:10] <SEJeff> cary, ok. 'export EDITOR=nano; visudo'
[01:10] <sadowski> pumpernickle: so far so good, except it doesnt say anything about a number of channels
[01:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: I'm going to post a few screenshots to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to show what I mean, then...
[01:11] <CosmoDad> metho: purging packages usually deletes all configuration files, i.e. sudo aptitude purge <package>
[01:11] <cary> SEJeff so i guess its open?
[01:12] <cary> SEJeff at the bottom is not hashed out. it says "root   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:12] <cary> "
[01:12] <sadowski> pumpernickle: alright
[01:12] <SEJeff> cary, Do you see a line that says '%admin     ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[01:12] <fmasi> hi some one could help me to make my skype whork whith aoss emulation
[01:13] <SEJeff> cary, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: Done.
[01:13] <cary> SEJeff, fresh install of breezy. there is no line that has "admin" listed anywhere in this file
[01:13] <bow> hello
[01:13] <SEJeff> cary, something really weird happened on your install...
[01:13] <fmasi> I cant make skype whork whith aoss but mpg123 is fine
[01:14] <bow> whork
[01:14] <bow> work
[01:14] <polpak> SEJeff, agreed
[01:14] <metho> thanks Cosmo
[01:14] <polpak> SEJeff, I've never heard of this before
[01:14] <SEJeff> cary, well add a line just like this '%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL' without quotes
[01:14] <cary> SEJeff, the ONLY line not hashed out is the one i typed earflier
[01:14] <fmasi> whith the normal kernel amulation my output soud is braking some times
[01:14] <SEJeff> polpak, ditto
[01:14] <cary> SEJeff at the bottom is not hashed out. it says "root   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:14] <franky123> hey, i've got a mounting question. ubuntu seems to mount cd's fine, but when i put a floppy in and go to nautilus and click the floppy drive and choose mount volume, it wont work so i have to do it by command line. i also have to unmount using terminal. my account as the "use floppy drives" privilage on so i'm stuck. help?
[01:14] <cary> SEJeff okay
[01:14] <SEJeff> cary, just add that line and save the file
[01:15] <nekostar> ok
[01:15] <pi9inE> well, nothing helped
[01:15] <pi9inE> i'm redownloading DVD image
[01:15] <nekostar> time today for a fresh install of ubuntu
[01:15] <bow> mm mike r u fit
[01:15] <bow> hey guys fancy entertaining a girl as shes bored
[01:15] <sadowski> pumpernickle: hmm...yeah im still not seeing the channel thing, just mic select, ice, and mono output select, under options
[01:15] <UbuntuMike> Is it Ok to ask for help here? is this is the support channel?
[01:16] <cary> SEJeff done
[01:16] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, yes it is
[01:16] <SEJeff> cary, now you are going to switch to user cary and check if you have sudo access (hint: you will)
[01:16] <cary> SEJeff, reopened file, looks fine
[01:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: In volume control go to 'edit' -> 'preferences' and check everything?
[01:16] <SEJeff> cary, su - cary
[01:16] <franky123> has anyone had problems mounting floppies from nautilus?
[01:16] <sadowski> pumpernickle: yes
[01:16] <SEJeff> cary, then list your sudo access again
[01:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: hm
[01:16] <polpak> pi9inE, nothing helped what?
[01:16] <cary> SEJeff, so i seem to!
[01:16] <fmasi> I nead help whith my skype please it wont output soud corecly
[01:16] <cary> ALL it is
[01:17] <cary> ALL it is  SEJeff
[01:17] <SEJeff> cary, everything is fixed and synaptic should open fine now
[01:17] <SEJeff> cary, yeah!
[01:17] <cary> SEJeff, so im going to reboot then!
[01:17] <metho> could someone help me with my microphone, it doesnt recored anything
[01:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: Can you paste a screenshot of your settings to the pastebin?
[01:17] <SEJeff> cary, yes
[01:19] <B-166_ER-X> my problem, might or might not be related to my k3b bug : aMSN (no, not the freezing bug) ... when i try to run it in terminal it makes : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6553 , but if i run it in Sudo, ir runs ok... but says 2 line about destroying .mi and .si , as you can see in the screenshot
[01:19] <UbuntuMike> I tried to edit fstab so that I could see the files in the windows partiton which is ntfs, it seems to have mounted it into the location that I set, but it says that there are no files in the folder and the contents is "unreadable" in the properties I have the options noatime,noexec,nosuid,nodev set in fstab. Any thoughts
[01:19] <sadowski> pumpernickle: posted
[01:19] <fmasi> nead help whith skype output could some one help me
[01:20] <UbuntuMike> ps. sorry about the formating, I will punctuate from now on
[01:20] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike: paste the contents of /etc/fstab onto www.pastebin.com
[01:20] <axylfyre> is it possible to go take files from a virtual machine back into windows?
[01:21] <UbuntuMike> I have pasted it up
[01:21] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, I need a url :)
[01:21] <UbuntuMike> http://pastebin.com/489452
[01:22] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, type 'id -u' in a terminal. I'm going to guess and say the output says 1000
[01:22] <cary_> SEJeff, WOOHOO
[01:22] <cary_> SEJeff, updating packages now
[01:22] <UbuntuMike> yes, it says 1000
[01:22] <SEJeff> cary_, sweetness
[01:22] <cary_> SEJeff, thanks so much
[01:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: hmm... does this help? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78582&highlight=ich4+alsa
[01:23] <cary_> SEJeff, now...what did i need to open to add my res?
[01:23] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, at the end of your mount options, add uid=1000
[01:23] <cary_> xorg.conf? SEJeff where is that?
[01:24] <UbuntuMike> thanks, I will try that
[01:24] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, then you will need to manually unmount and remount that partitions
[01:24] <SEJeff> cary_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:24] <UbuntuMike> oh god, how do I do that?
[01:25] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, type sudo -s
[01:25] <UbuntuMike> OK, I'm in the root
[01:25] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, 'umount /home/michael/winxp' to unmount. 'mount /home/michael/winxp' to remount it
[01:26] <cary_> SEJeff, okay i have the file open ..should i just add "1920x1440" to the res lists?
[01:26] <polpak> SEJeff, if it's in fstab he shouldn't have to be root to mount it
[01:27] <UbuntuMike> righty ho, that is all done wihtout a hitch
[01:27] <SEJeff> polpak, one of those oddities of pmount?
[01:27] <SEJeff> polpak, I'm used to the old way I guess
[01:27] <SEJeff> polpak, thanks though. I didn't know that
[01:29] <b0o> Does anyone have any experience will Dell laptops, specifically I've got an inspiron 2600 that doesn't seem to be working with the acpi....it's an old firmware so maybe I need to upgrade?
[01:29] <UbuntuMike> Is that everything I have to do, SEJeff?
[01:29] <SEJeff> UbuntuMike, yeah that should be it
[01:30] <polpak> SEJeff, you have to specify specific options in fstab to allow users to mount it I think
[01:30] <polpak> SEJeff, I'm double checking
[01:30] <UbuntuMike> thank you very much SEJeff, it works!
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> In the Windows file manager Explorer, if I wanted to select files 1-5 and 10-15 in a directory at the same time, I could click 1, Shift-click 5, Ctrl-click 10, then Ctrl-Shift-click 15.  If I do this in Gnome, I end up with only 1-5, 10, & 15, without 11-14.  How can I select two ranges of files in Nautilus?
[01:31] <polpak> SEJeff, yeah, if you put users in the option it will allow any user to mount or unmount the system
[01:31] <SEJeff> polpak, users is the fstab option, but ntfs is weird. the uid option always works, so thats what I tell people
[01:31] <polpak> SEJeff, if you put user it will allow the specific user
[01:31] <polpak> SEJeff, no, uid is to set the ownership of the files in the newly mounted partition
[01:31] <zezu> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[01:31] <zezu> anyone know why this happens ?
[01:31] <polpak> SEJeff, not to control who can mount/umount it
[01:32] <SEJeff> polpak, I realize that. With the uid as the current user, it works fine. I had an issue several months ago when I added the user option after reading man fstab
[01:32] <fmasi> nead help whith skype output could some one help me
[01:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: click outside the filename and drag a selection box over the files?
[01:33] <SEJeff> polpak, that was on Appos though and AppOS is a bit weird in everything
[01:33] <polpak> SEJeff, you'd have to use both the user and uid option
[01:33] <chorse> i'm trying to create a dvd image. nautilus cannot create the image because of some illegal file names. how can i see which file names are incorrect?
[01:33] <Yova> SEJeff is it posible to use gid instead of uid?
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, All right, that worked for Icons view, but in list I can't click outside of the file.
[01:34] <Toma-> chorse: try using gnomebaker instead. you can then specify a better filesystem for the dvd
[01:34] <SEJeff> polpak, from personal experience, uid worked and user did not work for me. user works for cdroms / floppy disks but it didn't work for me on an ntfs partition
[01:34] <SEJeff> polpak, but it might have been an oddity of AppOS, a very customized linux distro
[01:34] <TengkSA> If one reinstalls windows will Ubuntu be unaffected and still be listed in boot menu?
[01:34] <fmasi> some one could help me set up mu aoss
[01:34] <polpak> SEJeff, if you use both user=1000 and uid=1000 then that would allow the user with id 1000 to mount and unmount the directory. The files in the filesystem would be owned by user id 1000
[01:35] <chorse> Toma-: i'll have a look, thx
[01:35] <polpak> SEJeff, it's just nice to use user cause it means he doesn't have to sudo to mount/umount it
[01:35] <cary__> SEJeff, so i tried to edit the conf file and my screen res list remains unchanged
[01:35] <SEJeff> polpak, I just added user. I didn't know that the user option took uids.
[01:36] <sadowski> pumpernickle: nah, nothin
[01:36] <bimberi> TengkSA: a windows reinstall will remove grub (the boot loader) but this can be recovered - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:36] <cary> SEJeff, and its quite annoying
[01:36] <robertj> doh backup server is going click ... click... click :(
[01:36] <SEJeff> polpak, but if the volume is in /etc/fstab, they will never mount / umount it anyways so it doesn't matter
[01:36] <polpak> SEJeff, I suppose that's true. I'm more used to setting them up for smbfs directories
[01:36] <SEJeff> cary, hit CTRL ALT Backspace to kill X and restart it. Then log back in and try to look at the Screen Resolution Pref
[01:37] <cary__> SEJeff, i ddi that already
[01:37] <polpak> SEJeff, where the mounted location is not always accessable
[01:37] <SEJeff> cary__, xorg isn't my area of expertise, sorry
[01:37] <cary__> SEJeff,  one more try at something. hold
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, Should I take it as a hint if the Yelp documentation browser for Gnome doesn't mention such a task on the Nautilus > Selecting files section?
[01:38] <SEJeff> polpak, I've set up ncpfs and nfs, haven't had a need to play with samba yet
[01:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: Probably :)
[01:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sadowski: :(
[01:39] <cary__> SEJeff, WOOHOO. i missed one modes line in my editing. all works now.
[01:39] <polpak> SEJeff, I tend to use samba shares instead of nfs shares on my LAN is why.. It plays nice with other OSes and doesn't require client daemons to be running
[01:39] <polpak> cary__ glad to hear it
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, Shoot.  Oh well.
[01:40] <SEJeff> polpak, All of the hosts I deal with (work and home) are Linux, Unix, or BSD.
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> All right, who do I contact about trying to get a really simple thing added to Gnome/Nautilus?
[01:40] <polpak> SEJeff, I've got some Mac users =p
[01:40] <Coag> !firefox
[01:40] <ubotu> firefox is probably a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation. For firefox 1.5, look at !firefox1.5
[01:40] <Coag> !firefox1.5
[01:40] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:40] <cary__> SEJeff, polpak, thanks for all the help. ill be back im sure. maybe one day I can help people. ha
[01:41] <polpak> cary__, once you get your head wrapped around the basics it becomes a bit easiser
[01:41] <polpak> cary__, have fun =)
[01:41] <SEJeff> cary__, it's not that hard really. Just keep learning and read a lot
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> !nautilus
[01:42] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> !gnome
[01:42] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: I don't know
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> You've got to be kidding me.
[01:42] <Morinex> Ubuntu sucks
[01:42] <Morinex> fuck Ubuntu
[01:42] <polpak> Morinex, lol
[01:42] <Morinex> fuck the stuff of ubuntu
[01:42] <polpak> Morinex, bye
[01:42] <Morinex> *staff
[01:42] <Morinex> :D
[01:42] <Morinex> fuckers
[01:42] <Morinex> :P
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> Morinex: Watch the language.
[01:42] <mwe> tonyyarusso: use !info foobar
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> !bannable
[01:43] <cary__> polpak, SEJeff, one more thing... the partition of the drive where i have linux...well that freaks the crap out of my win2k box. like the other part's read..but it lags the system like crazy trying to figure out whats going on with that drive. is there anyway to make windows ignore that drive? i guess thats a windows question
[01:43] <Morinex> :O
[01:43] <Morinex> fuck linux
[01:43] <Morinex> fuck ubuntu
[01:43] <franky123> lol
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> !tell Morinex about bannable
[01:43] <psusi> by by ass
[01:43] <Morinex> :D
[01:43] <navarone> Morinex you spelt your name wrong moron
[01:43] <sampan> and there goes another microsoft employee
[01:43] <navarone> sad
[01:43] <crimsun> life goes on.
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Ah right, thanks.
[01:44] <psusi> cary, if the partition type is set to linux then windows ignores it
[01:44] <polpak> cary__, it's odd that it even tries to look at it
[01:44] <metho> is there a good ubuntu program for listening online radio channels!!!
[01:44] <SEJeff> metho, rhythmbox
[01:44] <franky123> metho: rhythmbox would work?
[01:44] <cary__> polpak, its one of three partitions on an ntfs drive, its ext3 obviously.
[01:44] <sadowski> pumpernickle: thanx anyway, i gtg
[01:44] <metho> ok, thanks!
[01:45] <polpak> cary__, is the partition type set correctly?
[01:45] <polpak> cary__, sudo fdisk /dev/drivename
[01:45] <cary__> polpak, how do you mean? set where? i mean i obvous am able to boot
[01:45] <polpak> cary__, then p to print the partition info
[01:45] <mwe> crimsun: do you if wpasupplicant works with the 2.6.15 kernel?
[01:46] <polpak> cary__, I can't imagine that the partition type would be ntfs but actually formatted ext3, but nothing else about your system has been typical, so....
[01:46] <metho> rhythmbox only found two radio channel, is that what it suppose to find or have
[01:46] <polpak> metho, you have to give it the url for the station
[01:46] <crimsun> mwe: yes, I made sure it does before I uploaded
[01:47] <crimsun> mwe: the only changes necessary should be ipw -> wext
[01:47] <mwe> crimsun: great
[01:47] <cary__> polpak, hda1 > ntfs, hda2 > ext3, hda5 > htfs, hda6 > linux
[01:47] <metho> polpak: danm that is hard, i dont know even know to find a URL for a radio, lol, well time to learn i guess!!!
[01:47] <cary__> where hda3 and 4 are, i dont know polpak
[01:48] <mikul> damn! i can still not find a .wine/config file! i think i need to take a look in it but i cant find it. because when i try to run photoshop 7 i get err:dc:CreateDCW no driver found for L"\\\\.\\DISPLAY1"
[01:48] <franky123> mikul: apt-get winesetuptk
[01:48] <mikul> ok
[01:49] <polpak> cary__, well hda1-3 are reserved for primary partitions, and hda5-12 or whatever is for logical partitions
[01:49] <franky123> mikul: it will ask you a few questions and make you a config file
[01:49] <metho> polpak: i am getting the following error, "couldnt stop playback
[01:49] <polpak> cary__, go ahead and quit fdisk
[01:49] <mikul> ok! thanks!
[01:49] <polpak> cary__, I'd recommend apt-get gparted
[01:49] <navarone> metho you can try www.shoutcast.com but I dunno if rhtymbox is compatible with those streams
[01:49] <SEJeff> mike_, look in the directory that winecfg created. winecfg supercedes winesetuptk
[01:49] <mikul> franky123,  just what i need ;)
[01:49] <polpak> cary__, and use it to get a visual view of the drive
[01:49] <mikul> i hope :p
[01:50] <mike_> stop saying muh name!
[01:50] <metho> navarone: so i basically add this URL in rythmbox
[01:50] <raphink> s/apt-get/apt-get install/
[01:50] <SEJeff> mikul, I meant to tell you that winecfg supercedes winesetuptk
[01:51] <franky123> mikul: the problem is that for some reason winesetuptk package uninstalls wine ... at least for me. so i used it, copied the config file, reinstalled wine, copied it back ....
[01:51] <franky123> SEJeff: really... i'll try that
[01:51] <cary> gotta go for a while
[01:51] <polpak> franky123, if you're wanting to use wine, I'd recommend using the winehq repos and installing wine and winetools
[01:51] <polpak> franky123, it makes it much easier to setup and configure
[01:52] <knoppix> hey
[01:52] <SEJeff> franky123, winecfg is pretty decent.
[01:52] <knoppix> hey
[01:52] <mikul> franky123, ok, thanks for the warning ;)
[01:52] <knoppix> i need some help with reinstalling my grub
[01:52] <franky123> polpak: i will try that. sejeff: is winecfg in the ubuntu repos or the wine repos?
[01:52] <polpak> SEJeff, yeah, for the configuration it works well, but there a bunch of peripheral software than many apps need (DCOM98, IE, etc)
[01:52] <navarone> metho...shoutcast has urls to various internet radio stations ...but I do not know if r-box is compatible with those formats
[01:53] <polpak> franky123, winecfg is in both
[01:53] <SEJeff> franky123, If you install wine from the default ubu repos, it installs winecfg with it
[01:53] <knoppix> a few days ago i was in here and a tony guy gave me a link to reinstalling grub after an install of windows...
[01:53] <franky123> strange ... i cant find it
[01:53] <polpak> franky123, it's part of the wine package
[01:53] <polpak> franky123, it's not a separate package
[01:53] <SEJeff> polpak, yes, so you install them too
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> !tell knoppix about grub
[01:53] <franky123> polpak: oh. there we go.
[01:53] <nemik> what app would you guys use to read binary files?
[01:53] <polpak> SEJeff, I know. Winetools just gives you a step by step for installing them all
[01:53] <knoppix> only problem is... the directions aren't working... can anyone walk me through this so i can get back to my ubuntu partition?
[01:54] <franky123> polpak: wow no wonder my wine cd drive doesnt show up. thanks a million!
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> knoppix, Uh oh.  How much can you do?
[01:54] <knoppix> what do you mean how much can i do...?
[01:55] <lucasvo> when I install ubuntu server, how can I use lvm to make 2 partitions?
[01:55] <SWAT> what are the minimum requirements of a ubuntu breezy server install? (would 166Mhz, 32MB EDO suffice?)
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> knoppix, Where do you first run into trouble, etc.  Are you currently booted into Windows/some other OS or a Live CD?
[01:56] <franky123> umm i've got some general questions about the way ubuntu handles permissions. first why when i copy files from a cd they are all 444? and why wont nautilus let me mount the floppy drive ( i have to do it from terminal). and why does ubuntu use /media/ isntead of /mnt ? lots of newbie questions, thanks :)
[01:56] <navarone> knoppix...you need to know what partition holds ubuntu so you can mount it...you boot install cd...type rescue and then use "mkdir" to make a temp dir then mount partition into that dir...then you reinstall grub
[01:56] <knoppix> i had to reinstall my windows xp because it got messed up with some virii a few days ago... right now im on a live cd
[01:57] <knoppix> i printed out my fstab before i did the reinstall just in case this happened
[01:57] <navarone> knoppix assuming you can find ubuntu partition in live cd you can do it thru it
[01:57] <SEJeff> franky123, pmount in breezy has issues and thats why nautilus is stupid with floppies. I can give you a url to an updated deb for pmount in breezy if you want
[01:57] <navarone> knoppix...paste your fstab in pastebin
[01:57] <navarone> Ipastebin
[01:57] <knoppix> i have the drives...i can get into the grub list... im just wondering how to make it be reloaded into my mbr
[01:57] <navarone> oops
[01:57] <navarone> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> knoppix, Good move printing the fstab.
[01:58] <navarone> knoppix...sudo grub-install hda1
[01:58] <franky123> SEJeff: please do
[01:58] <navarone> I think hda1 or maybe just hda
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> knoppix, And the (I think it's) grub-reinstall doesn't work?
[01:58] <knoppix> i was just looking at the part about the grub menu and being able to hit esc real quick and then commenting out the unhidden menu thing... will that work
[01:58] <SEJeff> franky123, http://nanokron.info:8000/rpm-et-deb/pmount%200.9.6-1.deb this should work
[01:58] <tonyyarusso> knoppix, navarone: Just hda for the mbr.
[01:59] <knoppix> no its asking for a device and options that i dont know about apparantly
[01:59] <navarone> knoppix you also have option to install onto floppy if you have drive and disk handy
[01:59] <SEJeff> franky123, /media is for removable devices. /mnt is for network mounts. That is in the FHS I believe and thats how gnome does it
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> knoppix, See navarone's, with hda.
[01:59] <knoppix> ok lemme give that a shot
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> knoppix, That's the device, what sort of options?
[01:59] <foampeace> whats the opengl-dev file called?
[01:59] <lucasvo> when I have lvm, can I resize the partition on a running system?
[01:59] <SEJeff> franky123, nautilus copies files and retains the permissions. The files are 444 on the cd so they are 444 when you copy them
[02:00] <Epsilon> where are the mozilla libaries stored in ubuntu???
[02:00] <navarone> knoppix if you want to install on floppy type "grub-install fd0"
[02:00] <navarone> without quotes
[02:00] <polpak> franky123, the umask for the files on the cd are controlled by the automounter afaik
[02:01] <franky123> SEJeff: thanks so much. i wrote a script to chmod all files to 644 and dirs to 755. is there a better way to restore privs ?
[02:01] <knoppix> it keeps telling me invalid device
[02:01] <navarone> knoppix for floppy?
[02:01] <knoppix> no for the harddrive
[02:01] <SEJeff> polpak, you can't create files on a cd :) umask is irrelevant. Or am I wrong somehow?
[02:01] <knoppix> i dont have a floppy drive
[02:01] <navarone> what didi you type?
[02:01] <foampeace> anyone knoqw what the name of the opengl-dev file is
[02:01] <knoppix> install hda and install hda1
[02:02] <knoppix> im in the grub proggie
[02:02] <navarone> install or grun-install?
[02:02] <polpak> SEJeff, no, because the drive doesn't support unix permissions there are default ones which are used when the drive is mounted
[02:02] <navarone> grub*
[02:02] <polpak> SEJeff, which can be specified as an option to the mount command
[02:03] <yaaar> word
[02:03] <knoppix> when i do the command grub-install hda it says format of installed device not recognized
[02:03] <SEJeff> polpak, but the umask on the cd should have nothing to do with the files that are copied onto a linux partition should they?
[02:03] <pa_l> what is wrong with GFtp
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> Anyone ever tried explaining how to maintain a website using straight HTML and FTP from scratch to a 13/14 year old?  This is interesting...
[02:04] <pa_l> it never resumes the files i upload
[02:04] <bodaciousbrian> i have searched google quite a bit for an answer to this question,   Using Esound plugin for XMMS, the player will not play mp3 files, it will load them, but it doesnt even show the visual for the track playing at all.... how do i fix this?
[02:04] <bodaciousbrian> Also, totem-xine will play mp3's
[02:04] <Kyral> Use ALSA?
[02:04] <bodaciousbrian> ive tried all of the above... esound oss, also and the other one
[02:04] <polpak> SEJeff, hrm. you may be right
[02:04] <knoppix> is there like an automated way t do this?
[02:04] <franky123> tonyyarusso: who are you explaining to and why?
[02:04] <polpak> SEJeff, I'm looking at the manpage now
[02:04] <Kyral> bodaciousbrian: try Beep Media Player
[02:05] <polpak> SEJeff, I was pretty sure there was a way to do it though
[02:05] <knoppix> because im not finding anything that will work... im using knoppix... is that why?
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> franky123, The new webmaster for my old Boy Scout Troop.
[02:05] <polpak> SEJeff, ah
[02:05] <polpak> SEJeff, it's not umask
[02:05] <SEJeff> polpak, I would think that they inherit the systemwide or user specific umask
[02:05] <polpak> it's the 'mode' option
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> franky123, I did it for a few years, got old, passed it on to someone that age, who never really did bother to learn what they were doing, now they've passed it on, so I'm dealing with the next one.
[02:06] <navarone> knoppix...you have a ubuntu install cd?
[02:06] <knoppix> yeah the install cd... not the live one
[02:06] <SEJeff> polpak, I see it. Nice to know
[02:06] <bodaciousbrian> Beep is the same, will no tplay
[02:06] <polpak> SEJeff, course I'm not sure where the mount options are passed by the automounting service
[02:06] <knoppix> anytime i load the ubuntu cd it starts installing
[02:07] <franky123> tonyyarusso: its hard to teach them the concept of hypertext. las tyear i i got thrown a comp vis arts class as a filler class and half the kids ended up just drawing their entire "website" in photoshop (all the text was part of the image) ...
[02:07] <knoppix> im not trying to reinstall linux too... i did that last week after chmod 777 /usr
[02:07] <wasabi_> Hello. Trying to get my nvidia card working with a 1920x1200 monitor. No luck. Xorg says it's ignoring the modes because they are out of range.
[02:07] <knoppix> turned out that wasn't such a great idea just like reinstalling windows.....
[02:07] <foampeace> whats the name of the opengl library file?
[02:07] <polpak> wasabi_, have you installed the nvidia drivers yet?
[02:07] <UbuntuMike> I want to change the boot order of my compy, but the file /boot/grub/menu.lst is read only, is that right?
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> franky123, We haven't even gotten in to that.  We're still at how do I edit a file?  As in, getting it with ftp and opening the local copy.
[02:08] <polpak> foampeace, libGL AFAIK
[02:08] <bodaciousbrian> both xmms and beep will not play under eSound, Alsa, and OSS
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> franky123, I hate it when I go to "web sites" that are just a stupid image.  Grr.
[02:08] <wasabi_> polpak: yes. It starts, just at 1280x1024
[02:09] <wasabi_> ddcprobe also doesn't list 1920x1200
[02:09] <foampeace> polpak: i dont see it...the -dev file?
[02:09] <polpak> wasabi_, did you explicitly install nvidia drivers, or are you using the default ones
[02:09] <bodaciousbrian> wasabi_, have you tried editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[02:09] <wasabi_> dude, im using the nvidia drivers.
[02:09] <wasabi_> I'm looking for tech help, not noob stuff.
[02:09] <polpak> !resolution
[02:09] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:09] <wasabi_> It isn't properly reading DDC.
[02:09] <polpak> oh
[02:10] <PeteyPablo> can anyone PLEASE help me with my ipod nano, i'm trying to use GTKPOD with no sucess i have read the wiki and ireally need some help?
[02:10] <franky123> tonyyarusso: well i guess its good that computers and technology are so transparent that most people have no idea how they work ... but that means teaching is frustrating. "how could you live all these years without knowing how this thing works?
[02:10] <polpak> wasabi_, you'll have to bear with the line of questioning.. We do deal with a lot of 'noob stuff'
[02:10] <binarydigit> !tell PeteyPablo about anyone
[02:10] <polpak> wasabi_, and it's difficult to tell the difference
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> franky123, Yeah, sounds about right.
[02:10] <wasabi_> I realized. ;)
[02:10] <wasabi_> realize.
[02:10] <PeteyPablo> binarydigit: fuck off
[02:10] <jackgrinick> hello
[02:10] <binarydigit> yea i am sure everyone wants to help you now
[02:10] <polpak> PeteyPablo, language pls
[02:11] <PeteyPablo> binarydigit: your being a jerk, i asked nicely no need to be a jerk
[02:11] <jackgrinick> the fedora people are being mean.
[02:11] <knoppix> ,am
[02:11] <binarydigit> i wasn't a jerk
[02:11] <PeteyPablo> ignored
[02:11] <knoppix> man... can someone help me with this?
[02:11] <binarydigit> whatver
[02:11] <knoppix> how do i get the damn grub into my boot sector?
[02:11] <navarone> knoppix try this thread...you can print it our if possible to make it easier...look for entry by "yesplease"...pretty good instructions for using ubuntu install cd to reinstall grub http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652
[02:11] <bodaciousbrian> wasabi_,  try edditing your xorg.conf file, look where it lists the resolutions tword the bottoms and add the resolution you want to the list,    restart x, then under System goto preferences, then screen resolution to select the new one you enterd
[02:11] <jackgrinick> *too
[02:12] <wasabi_> polpak: NVIdia's ignoreEDID doesn't work either. I have clearly set the proper horiz/vert things, as listed in the montiro docs, properly.
[02:12] <robotgeek> PeteyPablo: please mind your language
[02:12] <navarone> jackgrinick, I am too busy trying to help to argue tyvm...<s>
[02:12] <wasabi_> Actually I'm switching from an ATI card that worked fine. DDC found it properly.
[02:12] <byteshack> does rxvt have a rc file where I can set default config options?
[02:12] <byteshack> I can't seem to find it
[02:12] <bodaciousbrian> does anyone know why my mp3's are not working at all? except in totem where some will play for a while before i get an unexpected error?
[02:12] <PeteyPablo> robotgeek: i will, but i wont be talked down too either
[02:12] <robotgeek> byteshack: you generally  set in your .xdefaults
[02:13] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, you installed the proper codecs?
[02:13] <binarydigit> no one talked down to you PeteyPablo , i told you to ask your question through ubotu
[02:13] <PeteyPablo> can anyone PLEASE help me with my ipod nano, i'm trying to use GTKPOD with no sucess i have read the wiki and ireally need some help?
[02:13] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: they DO play in totem ... for a bit?
[02:13] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, ive installed the gstreamer codecs, thats all i know of so far, w32codecs doesnt exist for 64 bit, but i dont think thats the prob
[02:14] <mikul> i am starting to get irritated now... when i run photoshop i get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6562
[02:14] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, yes some of them do play, but WILL screw up
[02:14] <mikul> any ideas?
[02:14] <yaaar> mikul: photoshop?
[02:14] <polpak> mikul, afaik only specific versions of photoshop are known to work
[02:15] <UbuntuMike> I want to change the boot order of my compy, but the file /boot/grub/menu.lst is read only, how can I change it?
[02:15] <polpak> UbuntuMike, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:15] <robotgeek> bodaciousbrian: screw up?
[02:15] <yaaar> UbuntuMike: are you root?
[02:16] <UbuntuMike> oh, I get it now, thanks everyone
[02:16] <bodaciousbrian> UbuntuMike, use sudo gedit /boot/gub.menu.lst, be careful though
[02:16] <polpak> UbuntuMike, I'd definately make a backup
[02:16] <UbuntuMike> I'm really not used to all this root user stuff
[02:16] <bodaciousbrian> robotgeek, Unexpected error, suddenly stops and makes me close totem-xine
[02:16] <mikul> polpak, photoshop 7
[02:16] <polpak> UbuntuMike, there is a method to the madnes
[02:16] <robotgeek> bodaciousbrian: are you able to play them using xmms?
[02:16] <franky123> UbuntuMike: you will get used to it :)
[02:17] <UbuntuMike> Thanks everyone for the help
[02:17] <bodaciousbrian> robotgeek, not at all.... doesnt even attempt to play the files, but it does load them
[02:17] <SEJeff> cary, Still here?
[02:17] <bodaciousbrian> robotgeek, ive tried using all the output plugins, esound, oss, and alsa
[02:17] <robotgeek> bodaciousbrian: hmm, interesting
[02:17] <wasabi_> j #nvidia
[02:17] <PeteyPablo> can anyone PLEASE help me with my ipod nano, i'm trying to use GTKPOD with no sucess i have read the wiki and ireally need some help?
[02:17] <polpak> mikul, I think 7 can work
[02:18] <wibble> i've installed breezy badger on an amd64 machine today and have just noticed a spurious duplicate of /usr/bin/xargs in /usr/bin/X11/xargs.  any ideas why ?  should i report in bugzilla ?
[02:18] <bodaciousbrian> what is the codec package that would contain mp3 decoders?
[02:18] <polpak> mikul, I've not tried it myself, but crossover office supports it (which is a good sign)
[02:18] <polpak> mikul, are you using the winehq versions, or the ones from the ubuntu repo?
[02:18] <polpak> ubotu tell bodaciousbrian about mp3
[02:18] <hydroksyde> anybody ever tried selling second hand refurbished computers with ubunutu linux installed?
[02:19] <mikul> yeah they say so... but what i am trying to figure out is what the error message is meaning... cant understand what it means and what i shall do to get it working.
[02:19] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: uhhh ... ffmpeg mjpegtools lame gstreamer0.8-lame ...
[02:19] <mikul> polpak, just wrote apt-get install wine
[02:19] <mikul> :P
[02:19] <navarone> PeteyPablo, try this thread and see if it offers anything useful http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=363962
[02:19] <polpak> mikul, you didn't enable the winehq repos first or?
[02:20] <mikul> polpak, no, what is that?
[02:20] <polpak> mikul, http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[02:21] <polpak> mikul, you will probably need winetools too
[02:22] <mikul> polpak, i have tried to install it with winetools too but i got the same problem.
[02:22] <polpak> mikul, did you install the dcom library ?
[02:23] <ben_underscore> hydroksyde, no but my employer is going to donate old machines to charity with ubuntu on them
[02:23] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, pollpak all suggested packages were downloaded, no luck
[02:24] <mikul> polpak, no, dont think so... what is that?
[02:24] <bodaciousbrian> ill try to get w32 codecs, but that wont work on a 64-bit installation will it?
[02:24] <polpak> mikul, if you use winetools and go into the 'base installation' section
[02:25] <sagar> man i've never had problems with ubuntu but all fo the sudden, i'm ahving a super hard time reinstalling it
[02:25] <polpak> mikul, it gives you options to install some libraries which most applications will need
[02:25] <navarone> sagar why reinstall if you had no problems?
[02:25] <polpak> mikul, like the microsoft foundation classes, and dcom, etc
[02:25] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: you;re using also and esd right?
[02:26] <sagar> navarone i added a new hd and i decided i might as well reorganize all my data
[02:26] <navarone> sagar what difficulties are you ahving?
[02:26] <foxgamer> Hi all. I have an error 13 on my grub loader trying to load ubuntu. Anyone able to help? TIA
[02:26] <mikul> polpak, ok... w8 a minute and i will take a look at winetools again.
[02:26] <AtomicB_> anybody up for giving me a quick hand with a fresh breezy install and an NVidia CK8S (I'm getting no sound)
[02:26] <franky123> *alsa
[02:26] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, and oss, restarting after selecting each, none will work
[02:27] <Jared> Hello
[02:27] <sagar> navarone well i had a bunch of problems with random errors during install...due to a scratched disk i'm guessing; then i tried a new disk but i forgot to burn it at 8x...so i redid it.. i kept getting errors in my kernel with like, "could not set terminal font" and random tghings like that...the last error i got was somethign about being unabl eto copy the kernel image over
[02:27] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: haveyou tried killing esd?
[02:28] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, nope
[02:28] <franky123> killall esd and then try playing it again
[02:28] <franky123> note that without esd only one sound can play at a time ... but at least it will play
[02:28] <wibble> hm.  the two xargs, /usr/bin/xargs and /usr/bin/X11/xargs, have the same inode; one is a hardlink.
[02:29] <navarone> saagr are you installing on new drive or reinstalling on old?
[02:29] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, no luck
[02:30] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: esd & and see if it makes the startup sound properly ?
[02:30] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, huh?
[02:30] <sagar> navarone i made the partition larger on the old and im reinstalling on it
[02:31] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, ohh cool, yeah that make a sound
[02:31] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: go to terminal and type "esd &" that will run esd in the background. it should make this electronic sound noise when it starts up.
[02:31] <AtomicB_> can somone help me with a fresh breezy install and an NVidia CK8S? (I'm getting no sound, but it seems installed ok)
[02:31] <mikul> polpak, yes i did install all of them ;)
[02:31] <crimsun> AtomicB_: pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[02:31] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, the thing is it wont even Begin to play the mp3 file in xmms, and now my wife sjut her comp off that contains my mp3's
[02:32] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, and i suddenly realized, this happend to me before, and the mp3files had to be local on my macine
[02:32] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: xmms has some problems with ubuntu i think ...
[02:32] <strider> Anyone on Dapper now?
[02:32] <crimsun> strider: yes
[02:32] <AtomicB_> how does one do that? sorry I've never been near a linux pc with a sound card, and I've not been near linux in general for ages
[02:32] <polpak> mikul, hrm... I'm at a loss then
[02:32] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, im starting her comp back up, i think it will work if i coopy the file to my machine
[02:32] <strider> crimsun: did you get the open office updates today?
[02:33] <zezu> as long as i have dri disabled then i have no problems with stupid fglrx driver but no accell ;|
[02:33] <crimsun> AtomicB_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is a Web site. Go to Applications> Accessories> Terminal, type: amixer , and paste all the output onto the Web site. Then give me the url you used.
[02:33] <crimsun> strider: yes
[02:33] <AtomicB_> crimsun, thankyou, a moment please :)
[02:33] <strider> crimsun: Installed cleanly?
[02:33] <crimsun> strider: yes
[02:33] <strider> hmm
[02:33] <foxgamer> Anyone know about grub errors?
[02:33] <franky123> what kind of grub errors?
[02:33] <navarone> sagar...did you foramt partition before attempting to reinstall? Maybe a clean slate would make things smoother...? <>
[02:34] <crimsun> strider: works fine, too (at least Writer does)
[02:34] <zezu> does _anyone_ have a radeon 9800 working w/ fglrx that i can see their xorg.conf ?
[02:34] <foxgamer> franky123, I'm getting an error 13
[02:34] <navarone> foxgamer can you copy and paste your fstab into pastebin for us to see?
[02:34] <zezu> i'm going to try recompiling this damn kernel w/ another agp in a minute
[02:35] <nekostar> i wish i could get ubuntu to install on my laptop !_!
[02:35] <AtomicB_> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6564
[02:35] <zezu> it seems that might be what is screwing shit up
[02:35] <mikul> polpak, i got a little longer now... i changed from win2k in the config in winetools to win98(same as in th config file) and now i am getting this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6563
[02:35] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, Yeah that is Messed up, it will play if its on my local machine, but not if i have a samba drive mounted
[02:35] <foxgamer> navarone, No. I cannot even access that partition at all. I can put the one that I have on this distro if that's the same
[02:35] <foot> soymilk, any luck with the gaim thing?
[02:35] <navarone> foxgamer, what distro are you using now?
[02:35] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, ah..
[02:35] <bodaciousbrian> franky123, have any clue as to how i can play it off the samba mount?
[02:35] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, I had a similiar issue actually
[02:35] <foot> woops
[02:35] <mikul> polpak, do you understand anything of that? understand what can be wrong?
[02:36] <foxgamer> navarone, I am using fedora core 4
[02:36] <thecoolestcow> hey, is it possible to specify a gateway while using DHCP?
[02:36] <navarone> foxgamer, are you getting the error 13?
[02:36] <Loevborg> thecoolestcow, certainly
[02:36] <crimsun> AtomicB_: you're using normal speakers directly, correct? No digital receiver?
[02:36] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, are you using smbfs or just nautilus
[02:36] <franky123> bodaciousbrian: no, sorry :(
[02:36] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, i had this before, it wasnt until my wife shut her comp off that i remembered,
[02:36] <AtomicB_> yep, just got my headphones plugged into the back of the board... worked fine in windows when I was using it this morning
[02:36] <foxgamer> navarone, yes! That's the one.
[02:36] <crimsun> AtomicB_: in that Terminal, type: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[02:36] <thecoolestcow> Loevborg ifconfig? network tools? with neither could i find an answer
[02:36] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, i used the program found under system that can detect network drives
[02:37] <Loevborg> thecoolestcow, what are you trying to do?
[02:37] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, nautilus then
[02:37] <navarone> foxgamer, don't get excited I was just trying to see if you were the same person who menmtioned it...lol
[02:37] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, will it wouk if i use smbfs?
[02:37] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, I'd try using smbfs and smb4k
[02:37] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, I think it may work better
[02:37] <foxgamer> navarone, okay. lol. Do you still want me to paste my fstab file?
[02:37] <beau> anyone know if it's possible to update your font list in gimp on the fly?
[02:37] <Loevborg> thecoolestcow, normally the dhcp server will transmit a default gateway address
[02:37] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, awsome thank you, but i need to be out of here for now, ill let ya know if it works
[02:37] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k
[02:37] <thecoolestcow> Loevborg, well i just set up a sonicwall with a linksys wireless router as a hub, and i don't think that it is using the right gateway
[02:37] <navarone> foxgamer can you access ubuntu partition from fc and takea  peek at fstab?
[02:37] <AtomicB_> crimsun, still can't hear anything, let me just double check all the outputs... is there anything else it could be?
[02:37] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, wait
[02:37] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, one thing
[02:38] <thecoolestcow> Loevborg, yeah thats the thing, my DHCP server is different from my gateway
[02:38] <crimsun> AtomicB_: then, amixer sset 'External Amplifier' off
[02:38] <zezu> constant waste of time is what this is, perhaps i should revert back to an older kernel and i would have working fglrx, or do i put this cheapass TNT2 in my system and use that POS ?
[02:38] <foxgamer> navarone, fc?
[02:38] <navarone> fedora
[02:38] <Loevborg> thecoolestcow, you can manually use "route add default gw 12.34.56.78"
[02:38] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, ok, i think i allready have smbfs set up to mount under fstab, but it wasnt working, and im guessing its because i didnt have it!
[02:38] <polpak> bodaciousbrian,  you need to chmod ug+s /usr/bin/smbmnt and /usr/bin/smbumount after you install smbfs
[02:38] <Loevborg> thecoolestcow, or check out the "ip" command line utility
[02:38] <retroboogie> hello
[02:39] <beau> anyone know if it's possible to update your font list in gimp on the fly?
[02:39] <Loevborg> thecoolestcow, I'm unsure if you can do it through the gui
[02:39] <thecoolestcow> loevborg, ok cool, i'll try those.
[02:39] <bodaciousbrian> ok
[02:39] <foxgamer> navarone, no. It registers that the partition is there, but I cannot access it. I have been trying different things for ages, but I'm still quite new to linux
[02:39] <thecoolestcow> i don't like the gui
[02:39] <thecoolestcow> i use debian normally, but my dad has ubuntu
[02:39] <Loevborg> it's just as well
[02:39] <bobby> what is the default root password in ubuntu 5.10...need it to log into webmin
[02:39] <AtomicB_> crimsun, still nothing.. and I'm pretty sure all my levels are correct :(
[02:39] <retroboogie> how can i change res, all i can get 1024x768
[02:39] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, yeah fstab is set up allready =)
[02:39] <franky123> bobby: there is no root pass
[02:39] <navarone> foxgamer> do you know what the partition is designated for ubuntu...ie hd0,1  etc?
[02:39] <polpak> !resolution
[02:39] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:39] <thecoolestcow> bobby your regular pw may do it, but there is no real root pw
[02:39] <crimsun> AtomicB_: is this a dist-upgrade from Hoary or a fresh Breezy install?
[02:40] <AtomicB_> completely fresh, from a cd I burnt this morning
[02:40] <franky123> !sudo
[02:40] <ubotu> [root]  by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[02:40] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, yeah but you need to install the packages
[02:40] <foxgamer> navarone, yes, it's hd0,2
[02:40] <Loevborg> thecoolestcow, maybe you need to drop the other gateway first, btw
[02:40] <franky123> bobby: that help?
[02:40] <polpak> ubotu tell retroboogie about resolution
[02:40] <bobby> not at all
[02:40] <derekS> anyone else having a problem with totem-gstreamer? (ie it always crashing?
[02:40] <lowman62> what is the command to get dhcpd up and running?
[02:40] <franky123> bobby: why?
[02:40] <crimsun> AtomicB_: do you have multiple sound cards in the computer?
[02:40] <bobby> under 4.10 and 5.04 you could reset the root password to some thing you knew, now you can't do that
[02:40] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, yeah there downloading now, almsot done, then chmod, and reset and will hopefully work, allthough i did have this problem before using smbfs, so whats the smb4k?
[02:40] <bobby> this is a major flaw
[02:41] <bobby> franky123, aptitude install webmin ...you try and log in
[02:41] <AtomicB_> crimsun, nope, just this inbuilt nvidia card
[02:41] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, smb4k is similiar to the nautilus "Network Servers" screen, where you can browse the network
[02:41] <crimsun> AtomicB_: are you positive you're using the line-out jack?
[02:41] <crimsun> AtomicB_: (and not, say, Mic)
[02:41] <thecoolestcow> loevborg, oh. how do i do that
[02:41] <yaaar> bobby: what are you talking about? can't you just use 'sudo passwd' to set the root password in breezy?
[02:41] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, ok, so like a gui to smbfs?
[02:41] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, but instead of using a virtual file system it actually mounts the network drives to your home directory
[02:41] <AtomicB_> crimsun, 99% but I will now double check :)
[02:41] <sagarp> setting up general console font....failed <<----what does that mean??
[02:41] <retroboogie> im running a Samsung 19" LCD are there resolution issues involved i cant seen to go higher than 1024x768-
[02:41] <foot> how can i get ubuntu to load kde instead of gnome at boot?
[02:42] <bobby> yaaar, I was using the gnome user manager - give me a moment to check
[02:42] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, so you can use command line tools to access the files as well
[02:42] <navarone> foxgamer, try this...in fedora go to termianl and type mkdir /mnt/mydir      then type mount hd0,2 /mnt/mydir   <--- with su or whatever in order for it to work of course...then cd to /mnt/mydir and see if you can access
[02:42] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, essentially it's a gui for smbfs yes
[02:42] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, ok
[02:42] <thecoolestcow> foot once you install kde, in the "session" button, select KDE at hte logon screen
[02:42] <yaaar> bobby: it was really a rhetorical question.....I've done it before
[02:42] <bobby> no effect
[02:42] <sagarp> i also get a bunch of errors: insmod: error inserting '...some module': -1 file exists
[02:42] <bobby> yaaar, it is just changed back to the default
[02:43] <bobby> (which is why I want to know the default)
[02:43] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, I suspect thought that the problem may just be the network buffering in the smbfs filesystem isn't sufficient
[02:43] <foxgamer> navarone, Right, it says that I must specify the filesystem type.
[02:43] <foot> thecoolestcow, i assumed so.  but its not showing up
[02:43] <thecoolestcow> Loevborg how do i remove the current default gateway
[02:43] <AtomicB_> crimsun, ok, yep 100% sure, tried them all just for the sake of it.. it's 100% the right one
[02:43] <bodaciousbrian> polpak, i gotta get goin, thanks for all the help, i think it should work upon a reset...
[02:43] <thecoolestcow> foot really. you installed it through synaptic?
[02:43] <polpak> bodaciousbrian, ok, good luck
[02:43] <crimsun> AtomicB_: use the speaker-test util
[02:43] <yaaar> bobby: i dunno what the trouble is....i just checked again. on this box that never had the root passwd set, i just set it with that command and it worked fine
[02:43] <AtomicB_> crimsun, ok, where will I find that?
[02:44] <UbuntuMike> Although my computer is running just fine, and is using all the hardware properly (as far as I know) it cannot recognise what they are called etc. in device manager, is there any solution to that?
[02:44] <crimsun> AtomicB_: command line
[02:44] <foxgamer> navarone, Just tried it again with the filesystem type and I get 'special device hd0,2 does not exist'
[02:44] <AtomicB_> k
[02:44] <IdleOne> is there a command to create a launcher on the desktop via terminal ?
[02:44] <foot> thecoolestcow, actually someone in another chan im in did this :) im not on ubuntu
[02:45] <thecoolestcow> foot haha. nice.
[02:45] <thecoolestcow> foot if he's using ubuntu, ask him if he installed it with synaptic or apt-get
[02:45] <foot> i dont know how he installed it :?
[02:45] <AtomicB_> damn this eery silence :( haha
[02:45] <PeteyPablo> anyone got an ipod nano working with ubuntu?
[02:46] <foot> thecoolestcow, it was synaptic
[02:46] <thecoolestcow> foot weird. i trust he restarted? if he did, then i dono, i'm outta options (i use debian, i dont even know about ubuntu)
[02:47] <foot> :)  i think he rebooted.  funny to be relaying IRC between two servers
[02:47] <navarone> foxgamer try fdisk -l and see what comes up
[02:47] <Spect3r> hey im here foot
[02:47] <UbuntuMike> In Device Manager, there is no data for any of my hardware (Vendor, Device, Status, Bus Type), except a vendor very occasionally, is there any way to solve this problem?
[02:48] <thecoolestcow> foot yeah, especially when you and i arent even ubuntu users
[02:48] <Spect3r> hey thecoolestcow im the one with the problem
[02:48] <foot> howdy Spect3r :)
[02:48] <bobby> yaaar, no effect
[02:48] <Spect3r> lol yah
[02:49] <bobby> bah ubuntu really annoys me some times
[02:49] <foot> did you reboot Spect3r ?
[02:49] <Spect3r> ok soo weird... konqueor is now my default browser... but KDE won't show up in session
[02:49] <crimsun> AtomicB_: speaker-test has a man page, too.
[02:49] <Spect3r> yah i did
[02:49] <AtomicB_> crimsun, yeah was just browsing it :)
[02:49] <AtomicB_> I still can't seem to get anything out of it
[02:49] <AtomicB_> are there any alternate drivers for it or anything?
[02:49] <Toma-> PeteyPablo: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/93
[02:50] <foot> somebody said you can screw it up using synaptic, and you oughtta try sudo apt-get install kde from command line
[02:50] <Spect3r> ok i'll trys that
[02:50] <foxgamer> navarone, It keeps coming up command not found, but I can see it in the dir.
[02:50] <MachineScrew> any one know of nifty stuff to do with a palm
[02:50] <foot> MachineScrew, oil it
[02:50] <PeteyPablo> Toma-: that page isn't loading
[02:50] <foot> then the possibilities are endless
[02:50] <MachineScrew> ya right
[02:50] <yaaar> bobby: i really don't know what to tell you. i mean, if you are properly sudoing, it doesn't ask you for the old password or anything, you just have to give it 2 tha match.......there's not a lot that can go wrong
[02:50] <navarone> foxgamer try  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/mydir
[02:50] <nekostar> can you tell k3b to overburn a tad
[02:51] <nekostar> say 12MB?
[02:51] <Toma-> PeteyPablo: basically says its supported, and you can use gtkpod with it
[02:51] <Spect3r> foot, thecoolestcow ... Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:51] <Spect3r> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:51] <Spect3r> is only available from another source
[02:51] <MachineScrew> its a zire 31
[02:51] <yaaar> bobby: are you getting an error
[02:51] <yaaar> ?
[02:51] <PeteyPablo> Toma-: gtkpod isn't workign for me ..
[02:51] <navarone> foxgamer and if that gives no errors try accessing
[02:51] <nekostar> PeteyPablo, gtkpod is not so bad
[02:51] <nekostar> just toss in your ipod
[02:51] <AtomicB_> MachineScrew, http://www.giantdisc.com/ ? heh
[02:51] <nekostar> and check where its actually mounted
[02:51] <foxgamer> navarone, No. That worked fine with no errors and I can access it.
[02:51] <PeteyPablo> it doesnt work for me
[02:51] <nekostar> then change it so that gtkpod reflects that path
[02:52] <MachineScrew> just having a hard time getting files on the sd card
[02:52] <navarone> foxgamer...great now find your fstab and copy and paste into pastebin
[02:52] <Toma-> PeteyPablo: is the ipod saying its connected?
[02:52] <PeteyPablo> Toma-: yea the icon is on my desktop
[02:52] <AtomicB_> crimsun, sorry to bug you, do you know of anything else I could look into for getting this stupid nvidia onboard sound to work?
[02:52] <bob832> how do i restart apache through the command line?
[02:52] <foot> Spect3r, you should check this file: /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <Toma-> yeh you need to configure gtkpod to look at your mounted ipod i do believe
[02:52] <foxgamer> cd etc
[02:52] <foot> or, Spect3r, do an apt-get update
[02:52] <Spect3r> foot i've done that but i'll try again
[02:53] <foot> hmm
[02:53] <PeteyPablo> Toma-: it copies files to the ipod fine they just dont play, brb gonna restart my p
[02:53] <Toma-> i see
[02:53] <Spect3r> foot: Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:53] <Spect3r> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:53] <Spect3r> is only available from another source
[02:53] <Spect3r> E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[02:53] <bobby> yaaar, no error, it says the password is successfully changed
[02:53] <bobby> when I next look it has been changed back
[02:53] <navarone> PeteyPablo, have you tried with rhtymbox or amarok?
[02:54] <bobby> and at no point works under the pw I set
[02:54] <bobby> fresh install of 5.10
[02:54] <foot> Spect3r, when i try, i don't get that error
[02:54] <yaaar> bobby: what do you mean "when I look"
[02:54] <thecoolestcow> loevborg: thanks mate, it worked
[02:54] <Spect3r> foot, hmm
[02:54] <yaaar> bobby: what are you dooing to test the new passwd?
[02:54] <bobby> yaaar, in gnome users management
[02:54] <damian_> whats a good identd that works out of the box in ubuntu?
[02:54] <bobby> yaaar, attempting to log into webmin or su
[02:54] <yaaar> bobby: it shows you the passwords in user management?
[02:54] <tronix> damian_: xinetd is great
[02:55] <foxgamer> navarone, It's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6566  but this is my current fstab and not the ubuntu one
[02:55] <tronix> damian_: oops, disregard
[02:55] <tronix> damian_: identd, not inetd. sorry :)
[02:55] <damian_> identd not inetd
[02:55] <bobby> yaaar, the stars of the pw yes, so by the length I can tell it isn'ta ccurate
[02:55] <tronix> damian_: hmm, I liked fakeidentd to deal with annoying irc servers but don't see that in APT
[02:55] <Spect3r> foot, i did a clean and remove KDE... but now im getting couldn't find package KDE
[02:56] <foot> are you captitalizing it?
[02:56] <Spect3r> yes
[02:56] <foot> lowercase, always lowercase
[02:56] <navarone> foxgamer are you using a live cd?
[02:56] <Spect3r> oh alright
[02:56] <Spect3r> lets try that
[02:56] <foxgamer> navarone, No.
[02:56] <yaaar> bobby: that's very strange....i don't see any way that it could know the length of the password to accurately produce the stars....linux doesn't store the actual passwords anywhere you know, but rather a hash of them...which doesn't give away the length of the password.
[02:56] <Spect3r> foot, E: kde has no installation canidate
[02:56] <Friar_tuck> kde-desktop
[02:56] <navarone> foxgamer were you able to access the partition hda1?
[02:56] <Markbb-> !ati
[02:56] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:57] <imperfectus> hi
[02:57] <Spect3r> Friar_tuck, kde-desktop you say?
[02:57] <Friar_tuck> are you loking to inall kde?
[02:57] <Spect3r> yes on unbuntu
[02:57] <Friar_tuck> are you looking to install kde?
[02:57] <Friar_tuck> yeah then
[02:57] <Friar_tuck> kds-desktop
[02:57] <foxgamer> navarone, I am currently using hda1. Ubuntu is on hda3 which is what I'm having problems with.
[02:57] <Friar_tuck> kde-desktop
[02:57] <Spect3r> ok sweet, i'll try that, thanks Friar_tuck
[02:57] <UbuntuMike> Device Manager doesn't know anything about  my drivers, what can I do about that?
[02:57] <bobby> yaaar, don't look at me, I'm not a gnome dev - the lenght could be a guess? though I know from my debian box at home that the length is accurate at least there
[02:57] <Friar_tuck> you're welcome
[02:57] <imperfectus> How do I change the color schemes on gnome?
[02:58] <imperfectus> There's so place to change them in Theme Details?
[02:58] <regeya> imperfectus, no.
[02:58] <strider> crimsun: there was a conflict with the US dictionary in Open office. That's why it didn't install for me.
[02:58] <Spect3r> Friar_tuck, problem... E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop
[02:58] <Kyral> imperfectus: System --> Preferences --> Theme
[02:58] <Friar_tuck> it'll ask you which you want to be your default desktop
[02:58] <franky123> imperfectus: start menu->system->preferences->theme
[02:58] <strider> Fixed now ;)
[02:58] <Friar_tuck> let me check that
[02:58] <Friar_tuck> !
[02:58] <ubotu> Friar_tuck: Are you smoking crack?
[02:58] <Friar_tuck> !kde
[02:58] <ubotu> kde is, like, totally, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[02:58] <cafuego> strider: kubuntu-desktop
[02:58] <imperfectus> I've been there, but there is no way for me to graphically change the colors.
[02:58] <cafuego> grr
[02:58] <franky123> imperfectus: art.gnome.org has more themes. install them by draggiing the tar.gz you download into the theme manager
[02:58] <crimsun_> strider: I didn't run into that.
[02:58] <Friar_tuck> kubuntu-desktop sorry
[02:58] <Spect3r> ok
[02:58] <Spect3r> i'll try that
[02:58] <franky123> xubuntu!
[02:59] <spectrun> #unbutu.br.net
[02:59] <Friar_tuck> duh @ Me
[02:59] <imperfectus> I like the theme I currently have, but for instance the status bars are still brown.
[02:59] <strider> crimsun: lucky you ;)
[02:59] <imperfectus> And the highlight color on the menu's is still brown
[02:59] <grapefruiter> guys what are some reasons why ubuntu is bad
[02:59] <imperfectus> And there is no way for me to change it that I can see.
[02:59] <Spect3r> thanks ubotu and Friar_tuck
[02:59] <Spect3r> seems to be working
[02:59] <regeya> *sigh* you can change the theme from System->Preferences-Theme, but not the individual colors.  you'd more than likely need to write a new gtkrc and import that.
[02:59] <Friar_tuck> good
[02:59] <bobby> grapefruiter, the lack of usable root account
[02:59] <Friar_tuck> have you used kde before?
[02:59] <navarone> foxgamer are you able to mount hda3 the asme way as hda1?
[02:59] <regeya> unlike kde where there's a friendly color picker applet.
[02:59] <imperfectus> regeya: Yep..how lame.
[02:59] <grapefruiter> what else
[03:00] <Spect3r> Friar_tuck, yah... on mandrake... which i got fed up with... not cuz of kde but cuz mandrake sucked
[03:00] <spectrun> ai galera blz
[03:00] <foxgamer> navarone, Yes, I have just managed to do that. The fstab is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6567
[03:00] <bobby> grapefruiter, that's all I've got against it :| ...maybe mark shuttworths want to move to kde (yuck)
[03:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> imperfectus: System -> preferences -> theme -> theme details -> controls ?
[03:00] <Friar_tuck> are you mainly going for that because of looks?
[03:00] <regeya> <excuse type="lame">A color picker would be counter-intuitive, would lead to unergonomic color choices by the user, and would be confusing to the average user.</excuse>
[03:00] <imperfectus> PuMpErNiCkLe, : That doesn't help me w/ colors though...
[03:01] <leefdaddy> what's up
[03:01] <Spect3r> no Friar_tuck i find it easier to use... i find GNOME stuffy and harder
[03:01] <crazy3k> Hello. I'm having some problems with my Ubuntu system. X won't load. /var/log/Xorg.0.log says there's a problem with the "fixed font". I think all this happened when I replaced "hoary" by "breezy" in my sources.list file and tried to update packages. How can I fix this?
[03:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> imperfectus: Works for me... highlight colour,menu on-click colour, border colour...
[03:01] <imperfectus> PuMpErNiCkLe, : Hrm.... I dont see it
[03:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> imperfectus: I'll put a screenshot on the pastebin
[03:02] <imperfectus> Well
[03:02] <imperfectus> I'm looking at it
[03:02] <imperfectus> and all I see is the list of themes
[03:02] <imperfectus> and go to theme folder
[03:02] <foxgamer> navarone, Am I right in thinking that I am having problems because I am asking a debian system to mount a fc partition?
[03:02] <Falstius> how can I configure how the trash works?
[03:02] <LordMelkor> how can i put music on my ipod via ubuntu?
[03:02] <jamieboy> is there a chan where newbies can ask questions about hardware support before i have gotten my disc in
[03:02] <franky123> falstius: configuration editor->nautilus ?
[03:02] <imperfectus> LordLucless, : check out gtkpod
[03:03] <intelikey> foxgamer nope
[03:03] <Friar_tuck> keep downloading it cos it's nice to have a choice but afterwards  you could try a program called gnome-art. Unbuntu is ugly out of the box but that program makes it look a lot nicer
[03:03] <crazy3k> Can someone give me a hand with my problem?
[03:03] <foxgamer> damn. lol
[03:03] <regeya> PuMpErNiCkLe, yeah, let's see that screenshot.
[03:03] <flodine> anyone update there kernel in breezy
[03:04] <navarone> foxgamer I dunno about that...foxgamer are you able to use grub to choose fedora or ubuntu on boot-up? Your fstab looks pretty much like mine as far as ubuntu is concerned
[03:04] <LordMelkor> thanks imperfectus
[03:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> imperfectus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6568
[03:04] <imperfectus> LordLucless, : I think the default player has some ipod funtionality
[03:04] <foxgamer> navarone, Yes, I get a choice between this one and ubuntu. If I select ubuntu, I get the error 13 message.
[03:04] <navarone> flodine...i went from 386 to 686 to k7 with no probs
[03:05] <navarone> foxgamer weird
[03:05] <imperfectus> PuMpErNiCkLe, : That's what I'm looking at but it doesn't let me change anything.
[03:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> imperfectus: O_o
[03:05] <flodine> navarone to 2.6.14
[03:06] <intelikey> foxgamer error 13  where ?
[03:06] <foxgamer> intelikey, I get it when I select ubuntu in grub and press enter.
[03:06] <crazy3k> Hello. I'm having some problems with my Ubuntu system. X won't load. /var/log/Xorg.0.log says there's a problem with the "fixed font". I think all this happened when I replaced "hoary" by "breezy" in my sources.list file and tried to update packages. How can I fix this?
[03:06] <b1shop> i just did an install off the DVD and i swear it did not ass for root password
[03:06] <b1shop> i'm logged in as user, but i cannot su to root
[03:06] <nalioth> crazy3k: install more fonts packages
[03:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell b1shop about root
[03:07] <crazy3k> nalioth: How?
[03:07] <intelikey> then it is not an fstab issue it is menu.lst issue foxgamer
[03:07] <nalioth> b1shop: there is no active root account, read the info the bot sent you
[03:07] <nalioth> crazy3k: use apt-get
[03:07] <jamieboy> how does ubuntu work with usb hardware as i have not seen any linux drivers in any of my hardware cd's ?
[03:07] <navarone> intellikey...fedora dn ubuntu...gets error 13 from grub when he selects ubunt
[03:07] <navarone> hmm
[03:07] <MarcN> crazy3k: did you apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:07] <jrattner1> jamieboy, what hardware
[03:07] <foxgamer> intelikey, Oh right. So shall I look for that then?
[03:07] <jamieboy> printers, digital camera and video camera scanners etc.
[03:08] <crazy3k> nalioth: Actually, when I tried the solution the log said, which was to "apt-get install x-common-core" apt-get said it wouldn't find a package or something.
[03:08] <crazy3k> MarcN: When?
[03:08] <intelikey> foxgamer is your grub installed from ubuntu or fedora ?
[03:08] <IdleOne> is there a command to create a launcher on the desktop via terminal ?
[03:08] <MarcN> crazy3k: after you switched repositories from hoary to breezy
[03:08] <BxL> anyone know any artwork for lilo with ubuntu logo or anything
[03:08] <foxgamer> intelikey, Originally it was ubuntu, but when I installed fedora, it wrote over it. Fedora did pick up that ubuntu was there though.
[03:09] <crazy3k> MarcN: I don't think I did. Could that be the problem?
[03:09] <navarone> foxgamer...you know the routine...<s> c/p /boot/grub to pastebin plz
[03:09] <MarcN> crazy3k: you wanted to upgrade, right?
[03:09] <crazy3k> MarcN: Correct.
[03:09] <navarone> /boot/grub/menu.1st that is...<ahem>
[03:10] <MarcN> crazy3k: that is how you upgrade.  also read on the wiki about upgrading.   I recall there are some post-upgrade steps
[03:10] <nalioth> crazy3k: http://packages.ubuntu.com may help you
[03:10] <foxgamer> navarone, done. :) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6569
[03:10] <nalioth> cary: yes run dist-upgrade
[03:10] <nalioth> crazy3k: run dist-upgrade
[03:10] <crazy3k> Ok.
[03:10] <crazy3k> I'd have to close irssi in order to do that.
[03:11] <nalioth> crazy3k: no you dont
[03:11] <Kyral> crazy3k: no you don't
[03:11] <nalioth> crazy3k: just hit ctrl-alt-f4
[03:11] <nalioth> crazy3k: you have 8 of those
[03:11] <Kyral> or as many as you want...
[03:11] <intelikey> foxgamer then lets fix the /boot/grub/menu.lst  or /boot/grub/device.map  in fedora,  which ever is bad.   unless you want to reinstall the grub from ubuntu and add the fedora install to it.
[03:11] <Kyral> screen...
[03:12] <foxgamer> intelikey, I am happy to reinstall the grub from ubuntu and add fedora to it after if that's easier. I didn't think that would be possible.
[03:12] <tman_ubuntu> How do I disable the totem plugin?
[03:12] <aedes> anyone had problems with samba not sharing a local printer, when configured to use cups, and cups sees the local printer?
[03:12] <aurax> http://www.audioforce.net:6900/listen.pls
[03:12] <maximumbob> A skeptic has asked me, "If they give away these CDs for free, how do they make their money?" -- any good answers?
[03:12] <navarone> foxgamer that's a big menu.1st list
[03:12] <Kyral> maximumbob: I dunno
[03:13] <BxL> maximumbob, maybe it's not made for money.
[03:13] <foxgamer> navarone, I have no idea. I didn't even know it existed before now.
[03:13] <MarcN> maximumbob: contracting, support, etc
[03:13] <navarone> foxgamer...you can uninstall unused kernels after upgrading...<s>
[03:13] <aedes> maximumbob, they don't make money, they have a rich benefactor
[03:13] <steven_> can somone help me, whenever i try to start my ubuntu pc everything goes fine, but then at the end it switches to a text mode and i'm left with no command prompt, error or anythimg?
[03:14] <foxgamer> navarone, I have to uninstall the old kernels after I upgrade? I thought that was automatic?
[03:14] <navarone> foxgamer I have to go to bed...i am back in the workforce...I think intellikey will be good help
[03:14] <bipolar> maximumbob: huh? ubuntu?
[03:14] <evilghost> steven_:  Is it a login prompt?
[03:14] <steven_> evilghost, no prompt at all...
[03:14] <foxgamer> navarone, Thank you for your help. I am grateful.
[03:14] <steven_> evilghost, it's like the brown splash screen but just text
[03:14] <Friar_tuck> Can anyone use the name tux in their software or are there legal issues?
[03:14] <evilghost> steven_:  Basically, screen is black, with no output?
[03:15] <navarone> foxgamer...old kernels stick around in case new one muffs up...but if you are satisfied with new one you can uninstall them in synaptic and it will update grub as well
[03:15] <steven_> evilghost, it shows the thigns from the brown splash screen
[03:15] <imperfectus> This just doesnt' seem right to me..
[03:15] <imperfectus> I've got 20meg of ram free
[03:15] <imperfectus> out of a gig
[03:15] <IdleOne> Friar_tuck:  only legal issue is you will be sued
[03:15] <imperfectus> and i'm using xchat and gaim.
[03:15] <steven_> evilghost, no error or anything
[03:15] <intelikey> foxgamer sure it's possable to install grub from either system.   which system can you boot?   fc?
[03:15] <imperfectus> listening to an mp3 that's it.
[03:15] <foxgamer> navarone, Thank you. When it's all working I shall look at that.
[03:15] <b1shop> looking for a repository that has monoodevelop
[03:15] <navarone> foxgamer good luck
[03:15] <evilghost> steven_:  Can you hit ESC, or CTRL-ALT-F1 (and get a prompt)?
[03:15] <foxgamer> intelikey, I can boot in fc only at the moment.
[03:15] <navarone> good night folks
[03:15] <Friar_tuck> lol, so putting that in a software name is not a good idea?
[03:15] <foxgamer> navarone, Thank you. Night!
[03:16] <steven_> evilghost, hold on
[03:16] <jaro> Hi. I've just received DELL Lattitude LS - quite an old notebook piece. Without integrated CDROM, with only very old PCMCIA external one from which I haven't manage to boot (& tried really hard) so...
[03:16] <IdleOne> Friar_tuck:  i would come up with something a little more original
[03:16] <evilghost> steven_:  How long do you wait?  Does it eventually timeout and load normally (wonder if it's ntpdate sync).
[03:16] <jamieboy> can i use usb printers etc. without having linux drivers ?
[03:16] <jaro> ... can I netinstall ubuntu booting off diskettes?
[03:17] <steven_> evilghost, if i hit ctrl+alt+f1 it goes to the uncompressing kernel, booting linux screen and does nothing
[03:17] <evilghost> steven_:  Laptop or Desktop, and I'm guessing you did Breezy 5.10?
[03:17] <IdleOne> is there a command to create a launcher on the desktop via terminal ?
[03:17] <steven_> evilghost, desktop, breezy
[03:17] <bimberi> jaro: There's a few different install methods listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:17] <steven_> evilghost, this just happend to me.. it's happend before but usually i reboot and it's fine
[03:18] <evilghost> steven_:  What kind of processor/RAM/arch?
[03:18] <steven_> evilghost, pent 4 1gig ram
[03:18] <steven_> evilghost, why does it just sit their? i need to get this fixed badly
[03:18] <evilghost> steven_:  Can you try rescue mode and see if that boots, I wonder if it's a service that's hung or if it's another issue, like bad drive.  You didn't mess with hdparm did you?
[03:18] <Lord_Athur> how can I mount a squashfs file?
[03:19] <steven_> evilghost, it finally seems to have worked, and i tried rescue mode it worked fine
[03:19] <steven_> evilghost, thanks..
[03:19] <evilghost> steven_:  No problem, this means there's a hung service.  You didn't install emifreqd did you?
[03:20] <evilghost> steven_:  Any recent changes/etc?
[03:20] <steven_> evilghost, been trying to get my ipod nano to work with no luck
[03:20] <intelikey> foxgamer the menu.lst you pasted is from the ubuntu installation,  no?
[03:20] <steven_> evilghost, emifrq? no i think not.
[03:20] <Lord_Athur> heyhow can I mount a squashfs file?
[03:21] <foxgamer> intelikey, Yes it is.
[03:21] <duplexer> yo DRAGON_Ultra
[03:21] <imperfectus> Anyone know why free is reported more memory than gnome-system-monitor... or even gkrellm
[03:21] <adam_> join #ubuntu
[03:21] <jaro> bimberi: thanks, I'll try netboot.
[03:21] <intelikey> foxgamer lets see the one from fc please
[03:21] <evilghost> steven_:  Sounds like you made some changes and it went South, perhaps try undoing what you did, or, revert from a known good backup.
[03:21] <Lord_Athur> adam_, we are in this channel
[03:22] <Kr0ntab> heya folks
[03:22] <evilghost> Lord_Athur:  mount /mnt/cdrom/lfs.img -t squashfs -o loop /mnt/livecd
[03:24] <Zugwrack> Wow this VMWare player(free) and the Ubuntu image I downloaded are pretty kewl to run :-O
[03:24] <evilghost> Kr0ntab:  Sup
[03:24] <Kr0ntab> heya.... evilghost
[03:24] <Kr0ntab> how ya doin
[03:24] <evilghost> Zugwrack:  You avoiding the WMF insanity?
[03:25] <evilghost> Kr0ntab:  Doing well, you?
[03:25] <Zugwrack> Yep
[03:25] <Dariuss> is it possible anyone in here can help me with an install?
[03:25] <evilghost> Zugwrack:  Don't worry, just wait until Jan 10 :P  You seen the unofficial patch, it actually works well.
[03:26] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Sure.
[03:26] <Kr0ntab> eh... its not that big of a deal....  lots of media hype.... not wormable.
[03:26] <B-166_ER-X> my problem, might or might not be related to my k3b bug : aMSN (no, not the freezing bug) ... when i try to run it in terminal it makes : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6553 , but if i run it in Sudo, ir runs ok... but says 2 line about destroying .mi and .si , as you can see in the screenshot
[03:26] <Kr0ntab> brb
[03:26] <evilghost> Kr0ntab:  Wormable could be defined as mass-mailer, which is possible.
[03:26] <Zugwrack> See ya later....building a FreeBSD box...
[03:26] <foxgamer> intelikey, Sorry, I got a bit lost on the system. I have it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6570
[03:27] <intelikey> looking
[03:27] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: what version of amsn is that?
[03:27] <B-166_ER-X> 0.94 ..
[03:28] <Toma-> u know theres a 0.95 out now with webcam support and a bunch of other goodies?
[03:28] <Toma-> also, ask in #amsn
[03:28] <yaaar> hey guys, how can i get beep-media-player to recognize .aac files? i already installed faad, gstreamer0.8-faad, and bmp-mp4
[03:28] <CaptainMorgan> anyone download the new amarok updates? any changes?
[03:28] <Lord_Athur> evilghost, "mount: unknown filesystem type 'squashfs'
[03:28] <Lord_Athur> "
[03:28] <yaaar> it still complains when i add .aac's to the playlist
[03:28] <B-166_ER-X> yeap, but no package for ubuntu, and when i tried to compile...i think that where things screwed up
[03:28] <Dariuss> evilghost - im really new to linux, but i got it to install on my amd64 system, now im trying to install it on my hp laptop. everytime i try though, it fails. initrd tools wont install....
[03:28] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: i made an ubuntu package. its still getting tested, but it perfect here. you want the link?
[03:29] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  would be nice ..
[03:29] <evilghost> Lord_Athur:  From what I understand you need the squashfs module, or, something about compiling the kernel to support that FS.
[03:29] <B-166_ER-X> if it can repare my problem
[03:29] <CreatureX> evilghost, did you use a 64 bit install on your amd and the same cd for your hp?
[03:29] <Toma-> it might. 0.95 has more support i think
[03:29] <Dariuss> no, used the right cd...even tried burning it several times on different media
[03:30] <CreatureX> hm
[03:30] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Can you pass the noapic option to the installer?
[03:31] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  so eh, to install it ...let me recall a .deb file.... ehh , not a tar, not sh ...
[03:31] <Toma-> its 'dpkg -i amsn-blah.deb'
[03:31] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Try this, linux vga=771 noapic nolapic acpi=off
[03:31] <Toma-> with sudo of course
[03:31] <B-166_ER-X> oh :)
[03:31] <B-166_ER-X> thx
[03:31] <Toma-> ;)
[03:31] <Dariuss> evilghost: this is where the whole 'being new' thing comes into play....
[03:32] <intelikey> be right back.
[03:32] <evilghost> Dariuss:  No problem bro, when the CD boots and it presents a input-prompt put in "linux vga=771 noapic nolapic acpi=off" minus the quotes.
[03:32] <Shadyman> Hi ubuntu!
[03:32] <Friar_tuck> What is the best way of programming applications for gnome/kde?
[03:32] <Shadyman> Friar_tuck: You mean both at the same time?
[03:32] <CreatureX> for what prgramming language?
[03:32] <Toma-> Friar_tuck: gnome = gtk, kde = qt.... 2 different things
[03:32] <yaaar> never mind about those .aac files....i just had to restart bmp after installing bmp-mp4
[03:33] <Dariuss> evilghost: oh, ok, so where it says to type in server for the base system...
[03:33] <Friar_tuck> yeah but gnome can run kde apps
[03:33] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Yeah
[03:33] <Toma-> Friar_tuck: correct. i guess gtk is the wider used one
[03:33] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you. I have received that. What do I do with it?
[03:33] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Just in case you haven't stumbled across http://www.ubuntuforums.org, check it out, a wealth of information.
[03:33] <intelikey> foxgamer try that. in your  /boot/grub  on the fedora install  it should fix things for you.
[03:33] <Kyral> Friar_tuck: its more like GNOME App and KDE App don't exist
[03:33] <Friar_tuck> thanks i think thats what i was lookin
[03:33] <Kyral> Friar_tuck: you can use either on any WM
[03:33] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you so much! I'll give that a go and let you know.
[03:34] <Friar_tuck> ok
[03:34] <Toma-> Kyral: most kde apps need the kde-libs to run, aka, kopete, k3b
[03:34] <Friar_tuck> i think I'll stick with gtk
[03:34] <Kyral> Toma-: I meant the concept is wrong
[03:34] <shad0w1e> hi! I have a very new motherboard... which distro is most likely to pick up all/most of my hardware?
[03:35] <Dariuss> evilghost: great...thanks for the help!!!
[03:35] <Kyral> Toma-: No app is for KDE only, no app is for GNOME only
[03:35] <Shadyman> shad0w1e: Any?
[03:35] <Toma-> yeh
[03:35] <evilghost> Dariuss:  No problem man, glad I could help.
[03:35] <shad0w1e> Shadyman, well I've been having a lotta trouble with many of them!
[03:35] <Toma-> but most gnome/gtk apps dont require gnome libs. where as kde ones do
[03:35] <Shadyman> shad0w1e: Weird.
[03:35] <Shadyman> Toma-: And the KDE ones crash all the time, too ;)
[03:35] <shad0w1e> Shadyman, it's new stuff. Not yet built into the kernels!
[03:36] <Toma-> no they dont...
[03:36] <ilba7r> how to list operation, processes that are using my sound device
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> I dont like the gui in a lot of kde apps
[03:36] <Shadyman> Toma-: It's just me, I know :P
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> but thats my taste
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> everyone if sodderent
[03:36] <Toma-> ilba7r: "lsof | grep /dev/dsp" i think
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> sodderent = different
[03:36] <Friar_tuck> lol
[03:36] <bk> how do you compile a java source code using the GCJ?  is it just "gcj name_of_sourcecode"?
[03:36] <ilba7r> thanx Toma- i thought it was /dev/snd thanx again
[03:36] <Toma-> ahh yes im right
[03:37] <Toma-> np ilba7r :)
[03:37] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Is the option line I gave you working now?  If so, sweet :)
[03:37] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  here's one for you ... : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6571
[03:37] <Friar_tuck> Are there any gui app programmers in here?
[03:37] <B-166_ER-X> (..)
[03:37] <ilba7r> works great Toma- thanx again
[03:38] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: thats interesting.
[03:38] <B-166_ER-X> btw Preparing to replace amsn 0.95-3 is just because i did it 2 time to make the 2nd time en Eng_us
[03:38] <IdleOne> is there a command to create a launcher on the desktop via terminal ?
[03:38] <Kr0ntab> back....
[03:38] <IdleOne> welcome back
[03:38] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: have you tried moving/deleteing your ~/.amsn folder?
[03:38] <B-166_ER-X> hm, yes.
[03:39] <mheckmann> hey people :-P
[03:39] <CreatureX> idleone: i dont know about a command, but I think it would be easier to just use the make custom launcher through the gui
[03:39] <B-166_ER-X> might be the problem, this error pop up since then, althougn i had an error before, just not the same one (..)
[03:39] <Dariuss> evilghost: still loading up...
[03:39] <IdleOne> CreatureX:  how do i do that?
[03:39] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: ive been told its a permission problem. check the permissions on your .amsn folder and all the files in it
[03:39] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Cool, but you're further along than before, right?
[03:40] <mheckmann> exit
[03:40] <Dariuss> evilghost: now, it should still do a complete install, right?
[03:40] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Yes sir.
[03:40] <CreatureX> right click on a toolbar, then hit create custom launcher, drag to desktop. im not guaranteeing it will actually drag to desktop, ive honestly never tried
[03:40] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  there are a few files belonging to Root, thats all
[03:40] <IdleOne> thats the problem
[03:41] <IdleOne> I have a mac mouse
[03:41] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: nothing should be root
[03:41] <IdleOne> 1 button
[03:41] <spectrun> alguem do brasil aki
[03:41] <B-166_ER-X> chown -R username ?
[03:41] <dotchad> spectrun, eu
[03:41] <CreatureX> heh, does that pund-looking key+click bring up a context menu then?
[03:41] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: yep
[03:41] <dotchad> spectrun, #ubuntu-br
[03:41] <CreatureX> never used a mac mouse on linux...
[03:42] <IdleOne> CreatureX:  nope it doesnt
[03:42] <yaaar> hey guys, how do i find out what package provides a certain file?
[03:42] <IdleOne> i dont think I will be for long either
[03:42] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Why not get another mouse instead of using the obfuscated method?
[03:42] <Toma-> yaaar: with apt-file
[03:42] <sas171> need help with /etc/network/interfaces/
[03:42] <cubikdice> hmmmmmm fresh install of breezy :)
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> Toma-,  chown: too few arguments
[03:43] <IdleOne> evilghost:  because this is what i have and i am not going to wait in front of the store till morning lol
[03:43] <Toma-> oh
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> ah damn
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> wait
[03:43] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Good answer :p
[03:43] <CreatureX> idleone: there's got to be some way to get a context menu, ill try and look it up for you
[03:43] <Toma-> "chown -R oli ~/.amsn
[03:43] <Toma-> "
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> yeah :P
[03:43] <Toma-> ;P
[03:43] <B-166_ER-X> just saw this
[03:43] <evilghost> CreatureX:  I tried CTRL-LeftClick as well as Alt-Enter, etc.
[03:43] <IdleOne> CreatureX:  thank you ive been all over the net cant seem to find the answer
[03:44] <evilghost> IdleOne:   I have the answer, but I'll flood the channel.
[03:44] <evilghost> Where's that pastebin stuff.
[03:44] <evilghost> !pastebin
[03:44] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:44] <IdleOne> the msg me
[03:44] <evilghost>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:44] <evilghost> oops, sorry.
[03:45] <evilghost> IdleOne:  IRCd doesn't allow it.
[03:45] <cubikdice> lol
[03:45] <IdleOne> evilghost:  where can I get the answer then?
[03:45] <B-166_ER-X> wow
[03:45] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i need to help a friend who wants to setup wifi on his notebook. he's new to linux and has just installed breezy
[03:45] <Nyana> hello everyone... i'm having a bad time trying to install a macromedia flash plugin for mozilla firefox running under Ubuntu 5.04 amd64 bit... was wondering if anyone could help me out.
[03:45] <Hmmmm> anyone got a doc on how to set it up?
[03:45] <B-166_ER-X> Toma- , it actually worked, i've been trying to repair this for 2 days ..
[03:45] <sas171> ok, i should setup my pppoe dsl connection throw eth1, but every time im rebooting i have pppoeconf again. here is my interfaces: http://pastebin.com/489630
[03:45] <B-166_ER-X> thanx :)
[03:45] <Toma-> !wifi
[03:45] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:46] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: no problem :)
[03:46] <Kyral> Nyana: Flash doesn't exist for 64bit
[03:46] <Toma-> B-166_ER-X: if youve got any hassles with amsn, join the channel and ask. the devel team are all very nice pplz
[03:46] <Nyana> Kyral i heard about that... but isn't there a way to force architecture on the 32bit pack or use something else?
[03:47] <Kyral> Nyana: yah 32bit chroot
[03:47] <Kyral> but I dunno how to use it
[03:47] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Here you go, look at the terminal window.  Those are the attributes/values, the location is ~/Desktop.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6574
[03:47] <Nyana> me neither
[03:47] <IdleOne> evilghost:  thank you
[03:47] <foxgamer> intelikey, Unfortunately that didn't work. :(
[03:47] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Np, looks like it resized it, if you can't read it let me know and I'll GIMP the screenshot.
[03:48] <sas171> Toma: was !wifi for me?
[03:48] <Toma-> sas171: yeh
[03:49] <Toma-> also,
[03:49] <Toma-> !wireless
[03:49] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:49] <TrendKill> hey guys how would i get a file list of a particular debian packagae?
[03:49] <_TomB> can you install ubuntu from the livecd?
[03:49] <IdleOne> ahhhhhhhhhh great now FF wont start
[03:49] <CreatureX> _tomb: no
[03:49] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Open up terminal, type "firefox [url i pasted] "
[03:49] <sas171> Toma-: but i have no wirelles, i hav dsl modem->lan->eth
[03:50] <CreatureX> _tomB: but you can dl the iso or request install cds from shipit.ubuntu.com
[03:50] <intelikey> foxgamer glad you are back.  i'm sorry i sent you the un-polished file....  may i pelase try that again.
[03:50] <Toma-> oh, sas171 sorry, that was for Hmmmm
[03:50] <IdleOne> evilghost:  cannot execute binary file
[03:50] <foxgamer> intelikey, hehe. You certainly can. No problems.
[03:50] <robertj> where should I stick my named pipes at that will be started and stoped from init.d?
[03:50] <evilghost> IdleOne:  What's firefox alone say?
[03:50] <IdleOne> doesnt say anything
[03:51] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you. I'll give that a go.
[03:51] <IdleOne> begins to start then just stops
[03:51] <evilghost> IdleOne:  You have firefox installed right?
[03:51] <intelikey> foxgamer wait
[03:51] <cubikdice> whats that apt-get command to get all the development programs....like build-something or w/e getss gcc and all the needed stuff
[03:51] <IdleOne> yes
[03:51] <evilghost> cubikdice: apt-get install build-essential
[03:51] <IdleOne> but I upgraded to 1.5
[03:51] <Toma-> sas171: looks like its configing eth1 twice
[03:51] <CreatureX> cubikdice: i think its build-essential
[03:51] <cubikdice> thats it
[03:51] <IdleOne> now trying to create a launcher
[03:51] <cubikdice> thank you
[03:51] <Hmmmm> hey Toma- thanks, am taking a look at it
[03:51] <Toma-> sas171: have you tried commenting out "iface eth1 inet dhcp"?
[03:52] <Toma-> Hmmmm: cool
[03:52] <cvt|gnuyear> What kind of wireless card/chipset do i have? http://pastebin.com/489635
[03:52] <intelikey> foxgamer make sure that the /boot/grub/device.map  and the   (hd#.#)  are in agreement with the output of  'fdisk -l '   for the devices the systems are on.
[03:52] <sas171> Toma-: thx, ill try it now
[03:52] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: this says nothing about network cards
[03:52] <intelikey> foxgamer that is something you will have to check.  i can not see that from here.
[03:52] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, it was the command on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[03:53] <foxgamer> intelikey, I can't seem to use fdisk. It's on my system but keeps saying command not found.
[03:53] <evilghost> foxgamer:  "whereis fdisk"
[03:53] <intelikey> try as root
[03:53] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: thats not all that was in lspci was it??? :/
[03:53] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, yes
[03:54] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: so you have no graphics card or sound card?
[03:54] <charlie5> hi ... can anyone recommend a gui app for burning a music cd from a set of mp3 files (similar to kbear) ?
[03:54] <foxgamer> evilghost, It's in sbin
[03:54] <evilghost> foxgamer:  /sbin/fdisk
[03:54] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, with lspci -v | less
[03:54] <foxgamer> evilghost, Yes.
[03:54] <chorse> charlie5: try gnomebaker.
[03:54] <IdleOne> does anybody know what they keyboard shortcut would be?
[03:54] <evilghost> foxgamer:  No, I mean, type that.
[03:54] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: you need to post ALL the output from lspci -v
[03:54] <IdleOne> does anybody know what they keyboard shortcut would be for right click?
[03:55] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Gnome or KDE?
[03:55] <charlie5> chorse, thanks ... i'll give it a try.
[03:55] <IdleOne> gnome
[03:55] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, that was all that came up with that command
[03:55] <intelikey> with the   -l
[03:55] <foxgamer> evilghost, Ah cool. That works. Thanks :)
[03:55] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: if you ran it thru less, you need to hit enter to see more
[03:55] <intelikey> all we need is the list.  not to change things
[03:55] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Shift-F10?
[03:55] <evilghost> IdleOne:  And you suck for not using Google :p
[03:56] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: post everything from "lspci -v"
[03:56] <IdleOne> evilghost:  I been using google for 6 hours now
[03:56] <Hmmmm> Toma-, my friedn has a Belkin
[03:56] <Hmmmm>  F5D6020
[03:56] <Hmmmm> . the guide u gave me says it aint supported out of the box
[03:56] <Dariuss> evilghost: sorry to bother you, but it didnt work. still says its unable to install initrd-tools
[03:56] <Toma-> Hmmmm: you might need ndiswrapper
[03:56] <IdleOne> evilghost:  shift F10 didnt work
[03:56] <Toma-> !ndiswrapper
[03:56] <ubotu> somebody said ndiswrapper was a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:56] <evilghost> IdleOne:  My search terms "gnome keyboard right click"
[03:56] <foxgamer> intelikey, I have the list of all the partitions now. So I go in the device.map and make sure they match up, yes?
[03:56] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Weird, works fine here.
[03:57] <intelikey> yes
[03:57] <jaro> so, trying to netboot my notebook in order to install ubuntu, but: I've followed steps described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot adapted to my network of course, but I got to the state when client machine tries to initiate session with the tftp but unsuccesfully :-( what could be wrong?
[03:57] <IdleOne> well FF wont start up now
[03:57] <evilghost> IdleOne:  I left-click an item, hit SHIFT-F10 and I see the Right-Click menu.
[03:57] <jaro> maybe my dhcp doesn't work very well.
[03:57] <Hmmmm> is ndis complicated to setup?
[03:57] <evilghost> IdleOne:  I tried before I flamed you :p
[03:57] <IdleOne> evilghost:  thank you that worked
[03:57] <sporkbomb> Hmmmm: not at all
[03:57] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  NDIS wrapper, no.
[03:57] <evilghost> IdleOne:  Np dude.
[03:58] <intelikey> foxgamer the  (hd0.0)   and  (hd0.2)  are the ones that  fc  and  ub  must be on according to the menu.lst   if they are wrong change them.
[03:58] <Hmmmm> spo0nman, evilghost the thing is my friend, who's a newb, has found ubuntu so nice so far. i would hate to burst his bubble
[03:58] <Hmmmm> iv been pushing him to try linux for 4 years now
[03:59] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  You're a good man, he's got a what, PCI, USB, or PCMCIA wifi card?
[03:59] <Dariuss> sooo....anyone know what to do when ubuntu gives you an error message during install of the base system that says it was unable to install initrd-tools?
[03:59] <Toma-> Hmmmm: get the program "ndisgtk". its a graphical setup for ndiswrapper. if it was any easier, you could fall over and setup ndiswrapper on the way down
[03:59] <foxgamer> intelikey, No. They are correct. I have the device map open, but I only have two entries. (fd0) and (hd0)
[03:59] <sporkbomb> Hmmmm: the ndiswrapper wiki will tell him all he needs to set up ndiswrapper
[03:59] <Hmmmm> evilghost, pcmcia
[03:59] <evilghost> Dariuss:  My suggestions didn't help?
[03:59] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, http://pastebin.com/489643
[03:59] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  Who makes it, PrismII chipset?
[03:59] <IdleOne> evilghost:  now when i try to left click nothing happens
[03:59] <IdleOne> lmao this is freaking amazing
[03:59] <Hmmmm> evilghost, i dunno that one
[03:59] <Dariuss> evilghost: no, still gave me the same error...dont know what to do. could it be a hardware issue?
[04:00] <intelikey> foxgamer paste the device.map from ubuntu and fc   for me and  the out put from fdsik -l   and  i'll build you a device map also
[04:00] <Hmmmm> sporkbomb, ya i think i'll give him the guides and let him try it out
[04:00] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Let me guess, you installed successfully right, ejected CD, and upon reboot you got that, right?
[04:00] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: this is your card ... Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
[04:00] <foxgamer> intelikey, Okay. I'll do that. Just a tick :)
[04:00] <taomaster> Y is it so hard to install java in this o/s?
[04:00] <Dariuss> evilghost: no, during the initial install.
[04:00] <Toma-> 1javadebs
[04:00] <Toma-> err
[04:01] <evilghost> Dariuss:  Oh, hmm, try Ubuntu Forums searching on your specific machine type.
[04:01] <Toma-> ubotu: tell taomaster about javadebs
[04:01] <Dariuss> evilghost: ok, thanks for the help
[04:01] <ilba7r> is there a way to have a virtual sound mixer. Running an application that require the sond device prevents any other appl from using the dev. Is there a virtual sound mixer with ubuntu. just switching to esd or alsa does not do the trick do i need to make further configuration in them
[04:01] <taomaster> i tried it
[04:01] <Toma-> taomaster: dpkg -i java.deb is too hard?
[04:01] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  I've done a few PCMCIA cards without need to install a driver, including an AMbicom CF->PCMCIA card, a Cisco aeronet card, and a Compaq HNW-110.
[04:01] <evilghost> Hmmmm:  Never needed NDIS-wrapper
[04:02] <Hmmmm> evilghost, well that sounds good
[04:02] <taomaster> i guess i'm doin it wrong- can't get the package to open
[04:02] <Toma-> taomaster: did it download completely?
[04:02] <taomaster> yes
[04:02] <ilba7r> Toma- why not install directly from sun and make the symbolic links by hand?
[04:02] <Hmmmm> here's what he wrote to me:  have a dell inspiron 7500 with celeron processor.
[04:02] <Hmmmm> 
[04:02] <Hmmmm> The pcmcia card is belkin 802.11b , Model F5D6020 Version 3000df. I haven't managed to get this running yet. I have gone thru websites but couldn't find the exact information regarding my configuration. In case you can help me it would be great.
[04:02] <Hmmmm> 
[04:02] <Hmmmm> I don't see the light on the pcmcia card but in the systems side i can see the card i need to know how to activate the card ?
[04:02] <Hmmmm> 
[04:02] <Hmmmm> I also need to do basic things in linux , i want to install the gtkwifi application and i had read that i can do this by doing the following command:
[04:02] <evilghost> ilba7r: dmix, check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org, ideally, if you're a desktop you want an emu10k1 chipset on a SND Blaster Live 5.1
[04:02] <Hmmmm> 
[04:02] <Toma-> ilba7r: dpkg is easier
[04:02] <Hmmmm> sudo pdkg -i  gtkwifi-1.09.deb
[04:02] <Hmmmm> 
[04:03] <Hmmmm> After this i don't see the package anywhere on the list of programmes, do i need to do anything after this ? In case you have any documentation on how to use ubuntu it would probably help me.
[04:03] <Hmmmm> 
[04:03] <evilghost> Brb 1 sec.
[04:03] <Hmmmm> I haven't tried the rest of the things but already the usb 2.0 is working which i couldn't use earlier on windows 98.
[04:03] <Hmmmm> 
[04:03] <Toma-> got flood?
[04:03] <Hmmmm> I think i have alot to learn and it is very intresting too.
[04:03] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, that exact one isn't on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28wireless%29
[04:03] <intelikey> Hmmmm nice way to leave the channel
[04:03] <Madpilot> Hmmmm: please stop floodign the channel...
[04:03] <foxgamer> intelikey, Right, have the entries at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6575
[04:03] <ilba7r> thanx evilghost
[04:03] <Madpilot> flooding, even...
[04:03] <intelikey> k looking
[04:03] <Hmmmm> sorry guys, but its technical stuff
[04:03] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, do u know what i can do to get wireless working with mine?
[04:04] <ilba7r> evilghost unfourt i have a laptop but wil check out the link thanks
[04:04] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: id say use ndiswrapper. realtek chips and ndiswrapper work great
[04:05] <Toma-> nothing like a flood to shut everyone up
[04:05] <BxL> what's the command to see how much space is left on my partition?
[04:06] <Toma-> BxL: df
[04:06] <Toma-> or , df -M
[04:06] <BxL> thanks
[04:06] <sethk>  I like df -u
[04:06] <Toma-> err m
[04:06] <BxL> i'll man df ;)
[04:06] <Toma-> BxL: thats the spirit :D~
[04:06] <Toma-> df: invalid option -- u
[04:06] <sethk> -u does a pretty good job of guessing at what unit makes sense
[04:06] <sethk> sorry, -h
[04:07] <Toma-> :D
[04:07] <sethk> my mistake
[04:07] <Toma-> -h is pretty good
[04:07] <Doomhammer> hi guys, anyone willing to offer me some help ?
[04:07] <Toma-> !ask
[04:07] <intelikey> foxgamer try that.
[04:07] <BxL> -h is indeed pretty good
[04:08] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thank you. Do I put this file on both the ubuntu and the fedora partition?
[04:08] <Doomhammer> getting errors when attempting to start KDE, something about dcopserver ?
[04:08] <Toma-> sif paste it to me silly bot
[04:08] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i have dapper and i'm install what came up; do i need anything else?
[04:08] <intelikey> foxgamer yes  and the menu.lst also
[04:08] <Doomhammer> "Could not read network connection list."
[04:08] <Toma-> Doomhammer: anything in ~/.xsessionerrors ?
[04:08] <foxgamer> intelikey, Thanks. I'll do that :)
[04:08] <intelikey> that should fix you up
[04:08] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: i dont know anything about dapper.
[04:09] <intelikey> if it don't i'll be sure and hide when you come back........   ;/
[04:09] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: if youre gonna use a devel release, file a bug, patch it, sort it out yourself
[04:09] <Doomhammer> Toma-: ah, yes, it appears that KDE was trying to write some stuff to my home dir.
[04:09] <Doomhammer> Toma-: no write permissions though... on my own ~/ ?
[04:09] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i don't know what that means.
[04:09] <Toma-> Doomhammer: wow... you cant access home?
[04:10] <Doomhammer> Toma-: apparently not :S
[04:10] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: dapper = fix it yourself :)
[04:10] <Toma-> Doomhammer: :(
[04:10] <Doomhammer> Toma-: ~/.ICEauthority to be exact
[04:10] <intelikey> Toma- Doomhammer save home from another install ?
[04:10] <Doomhammer> funny, was working fine until i installed kubuntu-desktop :S
[04:10] <Toma-> ahhhh ICE.
[04:10] <Toma-> rm -rf .ICEauthority
[04:10] <foxgamer> intelikey, I'm going to give it a try now :)
[04:11] <intelikey> oh is that all?    sudo rm .*auth*
[04:11] <Toma-> err no need for -rf
[04:11] <foxgamer> yoink!
[04:11] <intelikey> foxgamer ok good luck with it
[04:11] <cvt|gnuyear> Can i get wireless working?
[04:12] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: use ndiswrapper. if its been released for dapper yet
[04:12] <intelikey> no need for the -fr but it will need root
[04:12] <Doomhammer> Toma-: it appears i've got a bunch more permission problems than just that :O
[04:12] <Toma-> intelikey: i try not to let people past sudo commands :)
[04:12] <QMario> What does the X.org process do in Ubuntu>
[04:12] <Toma-> Doomhammer: oh dear.
[04:12] <QMario> s/>/?
[04:13] <QMario> Hello Toma-!!! :)
[04:13] <Toma-> Doomhammer: what does ls -l return in home? dont paste it all here
[04:13] <Toma-> QMario: hi :)
[04:14] <Doomhammer> Toma-: it's complaining about dcopserver ?
[04:14] <Toma-> you cant even ls?
[04:15] <Doomhammer> i can ls, it's just that I have no write permissions on several things, which i apparently need
[04:15] <foxgamer> intelikey, Back again. No luck. Still getting the error 13 :(
[04:15] <intelikey> eeek
[04:15] <CreatureX> doomhammer: you can always go to disk manager and open your partition there, thats root file access in the gui
[04:15] <Toma-> Doomhammer: youre trying this thru konsole?
[04:15] <CreatureX> doomhammer: not an ideal solution, but itll work
[04:16] <Doomhammer> Toma-: no, I hit CTRL+ALT+F1, i'm doing it in the console
[04:16] <intelikey> hide even
[04:16] <foxgamer> intelikey, eeek? That's one answer! lol
[04:16] <Toma-> Doomhammer: good
[04:16] <Doomhammer> CreatureX: i have no GUI, neither gnome nor kde will start up
[04:16] <Toma-> Doomhammer: can you put your .xsessionerrors on a pastebin plz?
[04:16] <Doomhammer> i can stick it on my webserver...
[04:17] <CreatureX> doomhammer: oh, that would ba a problem (sorry, i just got food, didnt see the whole problem)
[04:17] <Doomhammer> CreatureX: that's okay
[04:17] <Doomhammer> Toma-: here's my xsession errors: http://www.longpath.org/doomhammer/filemirror/xsession-errors
[04:18] <intelikey> foxgamer lets try the ubuntu grub.     mount the partition that ub is on and do a  "sudo chroot /<ubuntu's_mount_point/>  grub-install /dev/hda "
[04:18] <cvt|gnuyear> when i try to install drivers for wireless internet ndiswrapper says "not a valid driver .inf file."  any help?
[04:18] <Doomhammer> Toma-: looks like I fixed the permissions, but now it's hanging while creating ~/.ICEauthority ?
[04:18] <intelikey> foxgamer you inturpret this <ubuntu's_mount_point/>   and type the rest
[04:18] <cvt|gnuyear> i was using the drivers for winxp and win2000 from this link  http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?Keyword=8180
[04:19] <BxL> how so i change the default
[04:19] <BxL> urg, sorry, nevermind that
[04:20] <intelikey> foxgamer if that doesn't work,  being fedora you may just "su - "   then run it without the 'sudo'
[04:20] <Toma-> Doomhammer: odd.
[04:20] <foxgamer> intelikey, chroot doesn't seem to exist anywhere.
[04:21] <Doomhammer> Toma-: yes, i would say so... i've installed kubuntu-desktop before without any problems :/
[04:21] <dfgas> arghh, i forgot my tftpboot directory when backing up my server  :((
[04:21] <intelikey> it will for root.   su -     then "chroot /<ubuntu's_mount_point/>  grub-install /dev/hda "
[04:21] <Doomhammer> Toma-: aha! that's good, at least fluxbox will start up
[04:21] <moshe> hello
[04:21] <workingmansdead> hey everyone
[04:21] <workingmansdead> im having a problem with an ssh remote log in. any help? im getting a fail notice in konsole after typing /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:21] <Toma-> Doomhammer: hmm. trying to think what might be causing it..
[04:21] <moshe> what are the possible reasons why mkisofs would say it's unable to make a dvd-video image?
[04:23] <nekostar> gawd
[04:23] <foxgamer> intelikey, nope. Even in su it's saying command not found. I'm trying to see if there is an equivalent.
[04:23] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[04:23] <cvt|gnuyear> With wireless internet, is the connection speed reduced?
[04:24] <Doomhammer> Toma-: i found a post on the ubuntu forums, apparently it's because dcopserver isn't setup to start automatically at boot ?
[04:24] <Kr0ntab> brb
[04:24] <intelikey> moshe write permission on the device or directory it is trying to use maybe
[04:24] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: not unless you have a 11megabytes / second internet connection
[04:24] <Vicent> what file like the wine
[04:24] <Toma-> Doomhammer: iirc, dcop gets started with kde/gnome
[04:25] <Toma-> Doomhammer: anything dcop related in /tmp?
[04:25] <moshe> intelikey, it's mkisofs, so it's no the device that's a problem, and the directory has my permissions
[04:25] <apokryphos> gnome doesn't use dcop
[04:25] <cvt|gnuyear> Do i need drivers in addition to ndiswrapper to get wireless internet?
[04:25] <moshe> do I need dvdrtools installed?
[04:25] <zhangjintu> how to remove the applications that I installed in wine?
[04:25] <Doomhammer> Toma-: not a thing
[04:25] <Vicent> any file like wine,for playing games
[04:25] <moshe> I've used growisofs without incident in the past without anything additional installed
[04:25] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: yeh, the ones that came with your card
[04:25] <SEJeff> cvt|gnuyear, you might install ndisgtk from universe as it will make ndiswrapper a bit easier to set up
[04:25] <vortex> anyone know why I cannot install flash or java in firefox with the autoinstall?
[04:26] <Doomhammer> Toma-: according to this thread, starting dcopserver manually will allow kde to startup, but after that other things are still messed up
[04:26] <intelikey> moshe idk
[04:26] <moshe> idk?
[04:26] <Vicent> icq can run in ubuntu?
[04:26] <intelikey> idk=i don't know
[04:26] <zhangjintu> sure
[04:26] <apokryphos> vortex: yes, because it doesn't work. Just install the javadebs (/msg ubotu javadebs), and flashplayer-mozilla from Multiverse repository
[04:26] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[04:26] <zhangjintu> no
[04:26] <_jason> Vicent gaim can connect to icq
[04:26] <Toma-> Doomhammer: well im stumped :|
[04:26] <vortex> apokryphos: thank you
[04:27] <Doomhammer> Toma-: a solution that has been posted is to remove /tmp/kdecache-<USER> but that dir doesn't exist for me :P
[04:27] <Vicent> _jason:i know how to login icq in gaim,but it just has buddylist and no my friend list
[04:27] <Doomhammer> Toma-: maybe i'll just download the kubuntu ISO, instead of converting standard ubuntu
[04:27] <Toma-> Doomhammer: have you tried cleaning /tmp completely?
[04:27] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: what's the problem?
[04:27] <vortex> apok
[04:27] <vortex> one question
[04:28] <apokryphos> shoot
[04:28] <Toma-> Doomhammer: could work better :/
[04:28] <foxgamer> intelikey, Still no luck with the chroot.
[04:28] <intelikey> can fedora possably not have chroot ????   that sounds modified to me.
[04:28] <vortex> which one do i download from the i386
[04:28] <vortex> ?
[04:28] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: KDE hangs on creating ~/.ICEauthority
[04:28] <Toma-> fedora has chroot
[04:28] <apokryphos> vortex: the j2re
[04:28] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: gnome won't start at all, screen goes blank for a few seconds then returns to KDM
[04:28] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: delete it, then restart KDE.
[04:28] <rage_> Trying to get a duel moniter setup... have hit some issues though
[04:28] <vortex> thank you very much sir
[04:28] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: sounds like you've been doing sudo {guiapplication}
[04:28] <intelikey> Toma- tell foxgamer that
[04:28] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: tried that, no effect
[04:28] <Vicent> _jason:i know how to login icq in gaim,but it just has buddylist and no my friend list
[04:28] <apokryphos> which is specifically not a good idea
[04:28] <apokryphos> you muck up configuration files and dcop sockets, at times
[04:29] <Toma-> foxgamer: what are u chroot'ing for?
[04:29] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: hm, have you tried chowing your ~ recursively?
[04:29] <intelikey> install grub on ubuntu Toma-
[04:29] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: no, let me try it
[04:29] <intelikey>  "chroot /<ubuntu's_mount_point/>  grub-install /dev/hda "
[04:29] <Toma-> i see
[04:29] <foxgamer> Toma-, I am trying to chroot to a mount point, but I keep getting command not found
[04:29] <foxgamer> ^^ hehe
[04:30] <Toma-> foxgamer: chroot not for or /bin/bash not found?
[04:30] <hacim> I'm trying to install the greasemonkey extention in firefox (1.0.7), it doesn't ever show up in my extentions
[04:30] <Toma-> *for = found
[04:30] <foxgamer> Toma-, chroot not found
[04:30] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: KDE is still not starting, but i'm getting different errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[04:30] <Vicent> _jason:i know how to login icq in gaim,but it just has buddylist and no my friend list
[04:31] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: pastebin, please.
[04:31] <Toma-> foxgamer: well install it. "sudo yum install chroot"
[04:31] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i have the driver cd that came with my pc; is that what i use?
[04:31] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: no idea. its your pc
[04:31] <_jason> Vicent, I don't use icq, you can try #gaim and see if they can help you with the friend list
[04:31] <Toma-> sportmankid: no spam today thx
[04:31] <Vicent> _jason:what you use
[04:31] <cvt|gnuyear> Does anyone know how to get wireless intenet working?
[04:31] <hacim> has anyone been able to install greasemonkey in ubuntu?
[04:31] <foxgamer> Toma-, Great. Errors in the mirrors and I can't find it in the Smart Package manager.
[04:32] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting!
[04:32] <Toma-> ahh man :/
[04:32] <Toma-> foxgamer: fc3 or 4?
[04:32] <_jason> Vicent, just the aim protocol
[04:32] <foxgamer> Toma-, fc4
[04:32] <intelikey> i'v got to go foxgamer,  if you still have trubble with it, one of these fine people can take up where i'm leaving off.
[04:32] <WebLOCH> !repo
[04:32] <ubotu> WebLOCH: Are you smoking crack?
[04:32] <WebLOCH> !repos
[04:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:32] <Vicent> how to register aim
[04:32] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: nothing else?
[04:33] <hacim> WebLOCH: for greasemonkey?
[04:33] <superchode> hey guys. trying to install php4. apt-get install php4 returns: E: couldn't find package php4 after reading package lists and building dependancy tree... any idea what's going on?
[04:33] <asterick> Hey, is there anyway to get an NTFS partition to mount any other way besides root read only?
[04:33] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: prev 2 lines are "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 10323
[04:33] <Vicent> _jason:how to register aim
[04:33] <apokryphos> superchode: you don't have universe enabled
[04:33] <apokryphos> !tell superchode about repositories
[04:33] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: those lines also have an errorno, 0 and 32 respectively
[04:34] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: this is why you shouldn't sudo {guiapplication}  ;-)
[04:34] <_jason> Vicent, I'm not sure if there is a way to create a new screen name through gaim.  There is however a website available.  Let em see if I can find it.
[04:34] <Toma-> bbl.
[04:34] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: but it needed root permissions :(
[04:34] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, Toma- cvt|gnuyear: yeh, the ones that came with your card // the drivers that came with my pc would be on that card
[04:34] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: are you sure that chown was recursive?
[04:34] <Vicent> _jason:ok
[04:34] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: then you use kdesu
[04:34] <cvt|gnuyear> cd, rather
[04:34] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: ah, i wasn't aware of that command
[04:34] <apokryphos> ok, one sec
[04:35] <slashx1896> hey all
[04:35] <_jason> Vicent, http://www.aim.com/help_faq/starting_out/screennames.adp?aolp=#sn
[04:35] <slashx1896> i use gaim to chat with people on msn, but my frends have msn plus.. is there a way of me gettin msn plus?
[04:35] <Vicent> _jason:thx
[04:35] <WebLOCH> !easysource
[04:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:36] <slashx1896> thats one question..
[04:36] <slashx1896> and my scroll doesnt work anymore...
[04:36] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: still getting thoe two "ICE default IO handler doing an exit()" lines
[04:36] <slashx1896> for some reason
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> after force quitting an application, my icons seem to take forever to come back.. then if I want to access the app through the menu - I can't. any suggestions ?
[04:36] <othello> ok guys im stupid an really would like to know how to install media codecs on ubuntu
[04:36] <othello> help me please
[04:37] <Shadyman> !restrictedformats
[04:37] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell othello about multimedia
[04:37] <Kyral> ubotu: tell othello about restrictedformats
[04:37] <Doomhammer> othello: i've never had to install any codecs, simply installing VLC (a media player) allows me to play every media format i've encountered
[04:37] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: sudo chown -R username:username /home/username   ...right?
[04:37] <emperor> what is the restricted format
[04:37] <othello> cheers doom ill try it
[04:37] <apokryphos> emperor: /msg ubotu restrictedformats
[04:37] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: i was just doing chown ajr /home/ajr... brb
[04:38] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: I did say *recursive* about three times :P
[04:38] <emperor> please tell me
[04:38] <apokryphos> emperor: please enter that command
[04:38] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: well i just did /* and then /*/* ... etc :P
[04:38] <CaptainMorgan> folks?
[04:38] <flash> hellp
[04:38] <Shadyman> CaptainMorgan: Yes?
[04:38] <apokryphos> :/
[04:38] <Sam`lappy> hello
[04:38] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: suppose that's what these handy man pages are for... :-D
[04:38] <CaptainMorgan> how do I get my app's back? I really don't want to ctrl-alt-bkspc
[04:38] <flash> help me i need help
[04:38] <Sam`lappy> can some one help me please
[04:38] <Shadyman> CaptainMorgan: Where have they gone?
[04:39] <flash> sam what are you looking for
[04:39] <CaptainMorgan> Shadyman,  after force quitting an application, my icons seem to take forever to come back.. then if I want to access the app through the menu - I can't. any suggestions ?
[04:39] <apokryphos> !helpme
[04:39] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:39] <apokryphos> past that, "help me" is just spamming.
[04:39] <CaptainMorgan> Shadyman, they're still not back after force quitting... hm... about 7 minutes ago
[04:39] <flash> ubotu i am working on my new system and having problems compilling with my c compiller
[04:39] <ubotu> flash: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:40] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, are there any common repos that arent in the default list?  I can't find stuff I had showing up an hour ago now?
[04:40] <apokryphos> flash: what are the errors? Can you pastebin them?
[04:40] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: yay, kde is working now !
[04:40] <apokryphos> WebLOCH: /msg ubotu repositories
[04:40] <Sam`lappy> flash i have ubuntu 5.04 on my desktop but i decided to install on my laptop also. after instalation everytime i boot nothing is displayed on the screen where the login screen should be. same thing happens when i try to boot with the live cd so the installation isnt the problem
[04:40] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: :)
[04:40] <flash> well I was a programmer 20 years ago
[04:40] <flash> sam
[04:40] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: thanks for the help :)
[04:40] <flash> apokryphos thanks
[04:40] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: next step would've been to fiddle with /tmp, so we're lucky 8)
[04:41] <WebLOCH> apokryphos, thanks, i thought id done that already, must have missed something
[04:41] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: hehehe
[04:41] <Vicent> _jason:hello
[04:41] <Doomhammer> i'm going to quit and rejoin with xchat... brb
[04:41] <Vicent> _jason:you use aim in gaim
[04:41] <Sam`lappy> any ideas flash?
[04:41] <_jason> Vicent, yes
[04:42] <Vicent> _jason:is that good?
[04:42] <flash> just a minute sam
[04:42] <Sam`lappy> ok yu
[04:42] <Sam`lappy> ty*
[04:42] <_jason> Vicent, I like the gaim client.  Basically everyone I talk to uses aim, so it works for me.
[04:42] <flash> sam not sure  :(
[04:42] <machinist> What is the package that I need so that I can edit menu items, add menu items etc. in Gnome?
[04:43] <Sam`lappy> OH OK
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> folks ?
[04:43] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know ?
[04:43] <Sam`lappy> oops caps
[04:44] <binarydigit> machinist: alacarte
[04:44] <flash> apokryphos  having problems with my compiller
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> freck it.. Ill just ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:44] <CaptainMorgan> which is a pain in the ass
[04:44] <Sam`lappy> does anyone here have ubuntu installed on a dell inspiron 6000?
[04:44] <apokryphos> flash: you're going to have to provide more information than that of course :)
[04:44] <flash> Not sure how to link everything together.  compiller keeps saying file not found.
[04:44] <flash> Thanks mate  typing a bit slow
[04:45] <machinist> binarydigit, I can't seem to find alacarte in the repositories. Is it located elsewhere?
[04:45] <Shadyman> sam `lappy: Close, what's up?
[04:45] <Sam`lappy> nothing displays on my monitor when i boot up
[04:45] <Sam`lappy> any ideas?
[04:45] <emperor> i have it
[04:45] <Sam`lappy> its a 15.4 inch wwidescreen
[04:45] <binarydigit> machinist: google for the .deb then
[04:46] <Shadyman> Sam`lappy: Is it installed already?
[04:46] <Sam`lappy> yea, same prob with the live cd too
[04:46] <Sam`lappy> so the install isnt corrupt
[04:46] <mrd`> Sound has stopped working on my girlfriend's laptop running Ubuntu 5.10.  It used to work fine, but I'm not sure why it does not now.  The drivers appear to be loaded, ogg123 runs along happily without complaining, esd has /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p mmap'd, alsamixer shows everything unmuted and at full volume.  Any ideas?
[04:46] <Shadyman> Sam`lappy: Weird.
[04:47] <Sam`lappy> do you know how to fix it?
[04:47] <flash> apokryphos:  do you know much about compilling c with this linux and ubuntu
[04:47] <SEJeff> binarydigit, alacarte is a dapper package. I believe the breezy menu editor is smeg
[04:47] <Shadyman> Sam`lappy: Not something already installed, no.
[04:47] <Doomhammer> mrd`: try killing off artsd, if it's running... sometimes that will make my sound stop working until i do that :S
[04:47] <Sam`lappy> ok
[04:47] <Sam`lappy> ty anyway
[04:47] <mrd`> Doomhammer: artsd isn't running.
[04:47] <Doomhammer> mrd`: well then nevermind :(
[04:47] <binarydigit> SEJeff: yea but smeg sucks and alacarte works fine in breezy
[04:47] <apokryphos> flash: a reasonable amount about compiling programs, but if it's about one of your own programs I perhaps wouldn't be of help. What is it you're trying to compile?
[04:47] <SEJeff> binarydigit, I didn't know that but I do agree about smeg
[04:48] <apokryphos> binarydigit: what's bad about smeg?
[04:48] <machinist> binarydigit, thanks.
[04:48] <Vicent> _jason:can you send me a message
[04:48] <binarydigit> apokryphos: ever try to chose an icon with it
[04:48] <Vicent> _jason:i want to learn
[04:48] <flash> apokryphos:  I just got the new beginning Linux programming book and am trying to compile hello world.
[04:48] <binarydigit> apokryphos: it doesnt give you ap review of any icons, and you have to blindly find the icon by the filename
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> I have this message when logging in, how do I fix it?: The X system keyboard settings differ from your current GNOME keyboard settings.  Which set would you like to use?
[04:49] <apokryphos> flash: not the best place to come for programming help. Install build-essential, and past that I'm sure the compiler won't be the problem =)
[04:49] <poser> trying to figure out what my onboard sound is for an old laptop, not much is found online, so I tried lspci but it doesn't seem to show a card
[04:49] <poser> flash: did you try gcc?
[04:49] <binarydigit> apokryphos: alacarta is basically smeg with things better
[04:49] <fli7e> anyone who knows: is there something I can add in fstab (perhaps under options) that will prevent a drive from automatically being mounted on startup?
[04:49] <superchode> k, universe is enabled now - thanks for that. installing php4 now stalls because it can't lock /var/lib/dpkg/
[04:49] <flash> apokryphos: once I get up and running I will fly like the birds   thanks for the that  I will give it a go...   :)
[04:49] <Friar_tuck> !flash
[04:49] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:50] <apokryphos> binarydigit: interesting. I just remember people in here "drooling" (and I quote) over some smeg screenies when it was coming out. Always found it odd that a friggin' *menu editor* could be thought of so highly.
[04:50] <superchode> would something else be using that?
[04:50] <binarydigit> hah , yea i believe this is a fork of smeg
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> What would be a good program for copying my laptop's hard disk (either entire or in part) to a desktop's (much larger) disk as a backup, over a crossover ethernet cable connection?
[04:50] <binarydigit> if they were drooling over that, they would get a hardon over alacarte
[04:50] <flash> Hello Friar_tuck
[04:50] <Shadyman> binarydigit: ROFL
[04:50] <mrd`> ``cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp'' produces no sound either.
[04:50] <flash> Friar_tuck: hello
[04:51] <carl> hello
[04:51] <benplaut> hello everyone :)
[04:51] <aedes> tonyyarusso, rsync is a good network backup tool, but I'm not sure if its what you want
[04:51] <Vicent> _jason:how to search other guys name
[04:51] <carl> I just got linux installed for the first time, where should I go from here?
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> aedes: What does it do?
[04:51] <Shadyman> Carl: Anywhere :)
[04:51] <apokryphos> hi benplaut :)
[04:51] <carl> lol
[04:51] <carl> any suggestions?
[04:51] <Friar_tuck> lol sorry
[04:51] <Doomhammer> carl: just play around with it... if you see something you don't like, figure out how to change it
[04:51] <apokryphos> carl: the wiki is a great place to start. Linux-wise, the rute manual is really great.
[04:52] <apokryphos> carl: /msg ubotu rute
[04:52] <Doomhammer> carl: that's how i learned, just messed around until
[04:52] <_jason> Vicent, just go to Buddies -> Add Buddy, and enter your friends screen name
[04:52] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: there may be slicker ways, but a sysadmin at an old workplace used to just use cp (he excluded /proc of course)
[04:52] <Doomhammer> carl: google is a great resource, linux.org is too, the ubuntu wiki, any linux forums...
[04:52] <Vicent> _jason:your name please?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> carl: ...I broke something.   (To follow up Doomhammer's phrase.)
[04:52] <Doomhammer> tonyyarusso: exactly ! :)
[04:53] <Doomhammer> hmm why is "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" ?
[04:53] <carl> thanks
[04:53] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: an application is using it for sound, perhaps.
[04:53] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[04:53] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: the only application that should be using it is quake3... however it is also the app giving me the error ;)
[04:53] <Friar_tuck> i was trying to find out about flash sound problems
[04:54] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: lsof /dev/dsp*
[04:54] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, And that was it?  Wow.  How can I exclude something?  Do I have to do each of the other top levels separately, or "all but /proc" somehow?
[04:54] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev" ?
[04:54] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: with sudo powers
[04:54] <Doomhammer> returns nothing
[04:55] <fli7e> Can someone recommend a good icon pack? specifically i'm looking to get the firefox logo for ubuntu to resemble the way it looks under windows
[04:55] <apokryphos> Doomhammer: sudo lsof /dev/snd* ?
[04:55] <Doomhammer> fli7e: there are some good icons availible at www.gentoo.org ...
[04:55] <brasko> Hi! I'm setting up mutt/fetchmail for the first time on my new ubuntu machine.
[04:55] <brasko> Anyone have any tips on setting up fetchmail?
[04:55] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: nadda
[04:55] <apokryphos> weird
[04:55] <brasko> I used to simply run 'fetchmail -d 30'
[04:55] <fli7e> Doomhammer, thanks
[04:55] <sorush20> how do I upgrade to new version of xorg  ?
[04:55] <cvogel> when compiling shared libraries with gcc, what's the difference between .so, .so.1, and .so.1.0.0, etc??
[04:55] <Vicent> _jason:can you search kadaj669
[04:56] <Doomhammer> fli7e: no problem, it's what I use :)
[04:56] <brasko> how about for setting up mutt?
[04:56] <apokryphos> sorush20: go to dapper or install from their site
[04:56] <sorush20> is there a table of packages in dapper anywhere?
[04:56] <apokryphos> sorush20: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:57] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: good question; I don't know :-)  I just thought I would throw out the suggestion.  He also had to do some trick to get the boot loader working on the new disk too.  Like I say, there are probably easier/better ways -- have you google'd it BTW?
[04:57] <sorush20> apokryphos: can I change my repsitories to dapper will that upgrade the distro?
[04:57] <fli7e> Doomhammer, how do i use them?
[04:57] <apokryphos> sorush20: it's not a good idea and isn't recommended, especially if you don't know what you're doing.
[04:57] <psusi> sorush20, you also need to do a apt-get dist-upgrade, then update, then upgrade
[04:57] <apokryphos> sorush20: you can quite easily break your system
[04:57] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Don't need to copy the bootloader.  The other computer has it's own copies of Ubuntu and Windows, I just want to put my stuff on it.
[04:57] <fli7e> Doomhammer, nevermind.
[04:57] <fli7e> lol
[04:57] <Friar_tuck> Sound works in flash in firefox but not on epiphany on my computer... Anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
[04:58] <apokryphos> psusi: erm, nope; update would definitely need to come first.
[04:58] <psusi> sorush20, and yea... don't do it unless you don't mind having the system break.. i.e. you have another computer for your main desktop... or breezy on another partition
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Trying to figure out what a good keyword combo is!
[04:58] <sorush20> apokryphos: my xserver-xorg isn't choosing the highest possible refresh rate of my monitor any idea's why?
[04:58] <psusi> apokryphos, oh yea...
[04:58] <apokryphos> and no need for an upgrade if you do a dist-upgrade
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, (Kind of a large topic.)
[04:58] <sorush20> apokryphos: xorg sometime find my monitor and sometimes doesn't any ideas?
[04:59] <apokryphos> sorush20: your xorg.conf file change? Does it get the correct values when you use dpkg-reconfigure to determine the settings?
[04:59] <Sturgeon> totem is saying that "The audio device is busy. Is another application using it?" when i try to play a movie. No other application (except gnome) is using sound atm, and I didn't have this error yesterday. What could be doing this?
[04:59] <Doomhammer> apokryphos: running "artsdsp -m quake3" solved my problem
[05:00] <sorush20> could someone one take a look at my froum post here it explained there and yes apokryphos xorg reconfigure only finds a generic monitor... there is a link there of the monitor that i am using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=625586#post625586
[05:00] <machinist> What command do I run to install a .deb package? (Really idiotic question)
[05:00] <sam`lappy> hello
[05:00] <machinist> I thought it was apt-get install... or something similar?
[05:00] <bodaciousbrian> im running breezy 64bit, i need the kernel source to install my nvidia drives, which one should i download?
[05:00] <apokryphos> !deb
[05:00] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:00] <sam`lappy> im in linux now, its the display b/c i plugged in a crt monitor and it works fine
[05:00] <Kyral> machinist: sudo dpkg -i <path/to/file>
[05:00] <WebLOCH> !javadebs
[05:00] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[05:01] <sam`lappy>  d
[05:01] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: I was just going to suggest that as you left ;)
[05:01] <sam`lappy> =P
[05:01] <machinist> Kyral, dpkg... thanks.. Darn... totally slipped my brain.
[05:01] <linlin> hi pcg :p
[05:01] <sam`lappy>  is there a way i can install resolutions because its only giving me 640x480 and its annoying as hell
[05:01] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Now you'll need to go into your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file and change some stuff around
[05:01] <sam`lappy> hey will =P
[05:01] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: I would think 'rsync' might be worth a try; there is also a tool called 'unison' that I've heard good things about, but haven't really tried out myself in practice
[05:01] <apokryphos> sam`lappy: /msg ubotu resolution
[05:02] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Is it a widescreen laptop?
[05:02] <bodaciousbrian> how od i check my kernel version?
[05:02] <sam`lappy> yep
[05:02] <linlin> its something like dpkg --reconfigure xorg blah blah
[05:02] <sam`lappy> 15.4
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Okay, will look into both.
[05:02] <apokryphos> bodaciousbrian: uname -r
[05:02] <anton_> "unable to lookup planet111 via gethostbyname"
[05:02] <bodaciousbrian> thank you
[05:02] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Let me pastebin part of my Xorg.conf for you.
[05:02] <anton_> ok how do i fix this??
[05:02] <apokryphos> linlin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:02] <anton_> without restarting
[05:02] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousbrian, uname -r
[05:02] <linlin> yup yup
[05:02] <linlin> kinda close
[05:03] <anton_> i changed my hostname and now i cant run things as root
[05:03] <anton_> i dont want to reboot because i wont learn anything
[05:03] <bodaciousbrian> im running kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic
[05:04] <bodaciousbrian> which kernel source should i get to let nvidia install?
[05:04] <anton_> my hostname file is edited and i ran sudo hostname planet111 to change it for this session
[05:04] <anton_> now something is broken
[05:04] <jahshua--> hi
[05:04] <anton_> because i keep getting "unable to lookup planet111 via gethostbyname"
[05:04] <anton_> when i use the sudo command
[05:04] <jahshua--> can anyone tell me what this might mean .. i just ran chkrootkit and saw this .. /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/.mounted
[05:05] <anton_> i still need to edit the hosts file buti cant ecess it as root
[05:05] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6577
[05:05] <Gandhi> I need help
[05:05] <anton_> :D
[05:05] <anton_> :-|
[05:05] <anton_> :-(
[05:05] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Though, I don't know what your video card is, so you may have to replace that "Device 'Silicon integrated systems...'"
[05:05] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: you got me curious so I googled 'linux copy disk'; this link has some interesting tricks (see 'cp' and 'egrep -v' for example): http://www.linux.com/howtos/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/copy.shtml
[05:06] <Gandhi> I want install lazarus
[05:06] <sam`lappy> hey sry ive been away for a bit =X
[05:06] <sam`lappy> i want to get the resolution fixed first
[05:06] <sam`lappy> um
[05:06] <poser> what config file do I have to edit for alsa?
[05:06] <sam`lappy> its asking me for what driver i want to use
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> Thanks Xenguy.
[05:06] <Shadyman> Hmm
[05:06] <sam`lappy> what driver do i want to use =)
[05:06] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: anyhow, gotta jet, have fun
[05:06] <Shadyman> sam`lappy: Whichever fits your video card
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Will do; see ya.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> I have this message when logging in, how do I fix it?: The X system keyboard settings differ from your current GNOME keyboard settings.  Which set would you like to use?
[05:07] <jahshua--> anyone ?
[05:07] <jahshua--> can anyone tell me what this might mean .. i just ran chkrootkit and saw this .. /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/.mounted
[05:07] <anton_> grr guys
[05:07] <anton_> i cant ever restart my network
[05:08] <anton_> and i cant put it back the way it was
[05:08] <Gandhi> anton_,  Can you help me?
[05:08] <Xenguy> jahshua--: chkrootkit gets suspicious when it sees 'dot files' in certain places; you might want to run 'rkhunter' for a 2nd opinion
[05:08] <bodaciousbrian> since a 64bit keernel source doesnt exist, should i get nvidia-kernel-source to let nvidia install?
[05:08] <anton_> Gandhi uhh
[05:08] <sorush20> are there anyother repositories I can use instead of Seveas
[05:08] <anton_> not right now
[05:08] <Gandhi> I want install lazarus
[05:09] <jahshua--> Xenguy ok thanks
[05:09] <anton_> sudo apt-get install lazarus
[05:09] <anton_> ?
[05:09] <anton_> is it in your package list?
[05:09] <bodaciousbrian> how cna i build a kernel-source from my existing kernel?
[05:09] <Gandhi> no
[05:10] <Vicent> who use aim here
[05:10] <Antar> everyone
[05:10] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: You probably don't need to worry about that dot file
[05:10] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: I'm sure everyone has it
[05:11] <dfgas> what drive is hd1,0?
[05:11] <sam`lappy> ug i dont know which driver i need, intel card and cant seem to find one that coorisponds
[05:11] <jahshua--> Xenguy what should i put for the postfix configuration questions on the rkhunter install, i dont understadn the questions
[05:11] <poser> is alsa-lib and alsa-driver part of alsa-base? or at least already installed?
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> dfgas, hdb1.
[05:11] <dfgas> wtf
[05:11] <anton_> those people on the Debian server are mean
[05:11] <anton_> dont go over there
[05:11] <bodaciousbrian> dfgas, secondary master i belive, most likely a cdrom
[05:11] <jahshua--> sporkbomb k
[05:11] <dfgas>  /boot is hdc1
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> dfgas, So?
[05:12] <CaptainMorgan> well, that was a pain in the ass
[05:12] <sporkbomb> anton_: only if you ask them questions that you could have probably figured out yourself
[05:12] <Xenguy> jahshua--: I don't recall such questions actually, but I'll try installing it right now and see what it says ;-)
[05:12] <jahshua--> ok thanks alot
[05:12] <jahshua--> :)
[05:12] <dfgas> tonyyarusso: so that means i should be hd2,0 right?
[05:12] <Xenguy> anton_: not really, #debian just won't support Ubuntu there
[05:12] <dfgas> or is root meaning actual root?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> dfgas, Yes.
[05:13] <B-166_ER-X>  i have amsn 0.95 on ubuntu, all is working right...but my contacts are telling me i always appear 'offline'
[05:13] <bodaciousbrian> so does anyone know how i can go about getting my kernel-source for Nvidia to install?
[05:13] <bimberi> bodaciousbrian: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:13] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: Just so you know in the future, and if you were curios, the .mounted file is just there to decipher which kernel you are currently running, iirc
[05:14] <sorush20> I'm unable in insall packages etc. any help please?
[05:14] <jahshua--> iirc ?
[05:14] <Xenguy> jahshua--: hrm I thought there was an Ubuntu package for rkhunter, but I don't see one here
[05:14] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: if i recall correctly
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Still can't help you, but question:  Why did you need 0.95 anyway?
[05:14] <jahshua--> i did sudo apt-get install rkhunter
[05:14] <anton_> my sudo is broke you guys
[05:14] <illicit> Does anyone know of porting software besides Wine and Cedega?
[05:14] <jahshua--> it worked
[05:14] <anton_> hold me
[05:14] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, can i do that command as is? or do i need to substitute for uname -r?
[05:14] <jahshua--> sporkbomb: what do you mean iirc ?
[05:14] <Xenguy> jahshua--: K, checking again
[05:14] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: scroll up
[05:14] <B-166_ER-X> tonyyarusso,  cause my 0.94 was really ***'ed up...it repaired it in a way
[05:14] <bimberi> bodaciousbrian: as is - the $( ) does the substitution :)
[05:14] <sorush20> how do I fix by apt?
[05:15] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, sweet
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> B-166_ER-X, Ah.
[05:15] <jahshua--> sporkbomb: i did, i dont see
[05:15] <LordMelkor> im having some problems with gtkpod
[05:15] <sporkbomb> jahshua--: if I recall correctly == iirc
[05:15] <LordMelkor> and my ipod
[05:15] <jahshua--> ahhh
[05:15] <jahshua--> ok
[05:15] <jahshua--> thanks
[05:15] <LordMelkor> whenever i try to unmount
[05:15] <blueandwhiteg3> How can I get the resolution autodetect screen back up just like when I was running the installer? I accidently pressed return before I had checked all the resolutions (which my hardware supports)
[05:15] <LordMelkor> it says unmount unsuccessful
[05:16] <illicit> Does anyone know of porting software besides Wine and Cedega?
[05:16] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:16] <dfgas> when i make changes to grub, how do i re install it?
[05:16] <sporkbomb> illicit: what in the world do you mean by "porting software"?
[05:16] <sam`lappy> gah
[05:16] <Xenguy> jahshua--: I had to enable 'multiverse'
[05:16] <bimberi> dfgas: if you've just edited menu.lst you don't have to do anything
[05:16] <jahshua--> Xen ah ok
[05:16] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, what are linux headers?
[05:16] <blueandwhiteg3> bimberi: I know about that. But that gives me a mountain of prompts - none of which I had to deal with at install - and the resolution autodetect doesn't work either. It just logs me out of my account.
[05:17] <LordMelkor> can anyone help me?
[05:17] <illicit> sporkbomb, programs that allow win32 apps on linux
[05:17] <dfgas> bimberi: how do i make sure that it is installed on hda mbr? cause last time when it booted i didn't have any choices
[05:17] <sorush20> I keep getting there was an error commiting changes in adept what can I do ?
[05:17] <illicit> sporkbomb, All i know of is Cedega and Wine...but sum1 said there was another can't quite remember the name.
[05:17] <bimberi> bodaciousbrian: they are the C header files, and should be all that is needed for the nvidia install
[05:17] <LordMelkor> also after gtkpod loaded everything onto the ipod (a 30minprocess)
[05:17] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: sec...
[05:17] <dfgas> bimberi: it just sat at the grub prompt
[05:17] <LordMelkor> it said unmount unsuccessful
[05:17] <Xenguy> jahshua--: nope, no question(s) about postfix
[05:17] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, ahh,  im a moron that decided to learn python before c
[05:17] <LordMelkor> and now the songs wont show up on my ipod
[05:18] <sporkbomb> illicit: I doubt you can consider a specific application to be ported to a specific architecture if it is in fact running through emulation or another layer.
[05:18] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, i gave up on python long ago though =P  some day when it gets GUI i will look into it again
[05:18] <sporkbomb> illicit: but I understand what you mean now.
[05:18] <illicit> sporkbomb, :) Thanks...any idea of the name?
[05:18] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow ... "
[05:18] <bodaciousbrian> ok ill go try the nvidia install again
[05:19] <sporkbomb> illicit: there are others based off of wine, such as codeweaver's crossover office
[05:19] <sagarp> i get this error, "automake" is too old, libtoolize not found...how do i fix those?
[05:19] <jahshua--> Xenguy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6578
[05:19] <illicit> sporkbomb, Ha that was it! Thanks.
[05:19] <sporkbomb> illicit: np
[05:19] <jess> is anyone here having problem with xchat on Breezy?  I can't get half the menus to show up.  Like "Join channel" and stuff.
[05:20] <bimberi> dfgas: you could reinstall grub to make sure - ubotu has some links ...
[05:20] <bimberi> ubotu tell dfgas about grub
[05:20] <bodaciousbrian> ok now the nvidia installer tries to build the new kernel module, but says it cant find nvidia.ko
[05:20] <blueandwhiteg3> bimberi: I just want to get that list of supported resolutions back up and this is asking like 50 questions, but I'm working through it...
[05:20] <Xenguy> jahshua--: interesting, it pulled in postfix too; lemmee check something, sec...
[05:21] <LordMelkor> um can some one please at least give me some sort of reply to my questions?
[05:21] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: k :) - the defaults are usually pretty good
[05:21] <blueandwhiteg3> bimberi: it logged me out again on autodetect resolutions
[05:21] <blueandwhiteg3> No errors as far as I can tell, however
[05:21] <sarek> hi all
[05:21] <poser> any idea on what I should do with this error.. ALSA lib conf.c:3479:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory
[05:21] <jahshua--> Xenguy: ok thanks you
[05:21] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: :/
[05:22] <jahshua--> thank*
[05:22] <cge> LordMelkor: It seems rather specific - you might want to ask on a mailing list or the forums. Most likely noone knows anything about the problem.
[05:22] <cge> here, at least
[05:22] <LordMelkor> thnx
[05:22] <sarek> how can I easily reformat a tex file which has looooong lines, so that lines are wrapped at col 80 for example? maybe some function in vim?
[05:22] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: another way is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly
[05:23] <Xenguy> jahshua--: I don't understand what postfix has to do with rkhunter.  If you do 'apt-cache show rkhunter' you will not see any 'dependencies' on postfix <shrug>
[05:23] <blueandwhiteg3> Bimberi: I just want the list back up I had at install. My display supports like 100+ resolution/refresh rate combinations....
[05:23] <blueandwhiteg3> Bimberi: It seems stupid, but I am starting to think it might be faster to re-install the entire affair...
[05:23] <Xenguy> jahshua--: you could just choose 'no configuration' if you don't want to abort
[05:23] <jahshua--> Xenguy: maybe i should just cancel then ?
[05:23] <jahshua--> ok cool
[05:24] <DJLILYAZI> wow i got big problems
[05:24] <Xenguy> ttyl
[05:24] <DJLILYAZI> who can help me ?
[05:24] <blueandwhiteg3> Bimberi: And before you ask, yes, I do regularly use many different resolutions and refresh rates.
[05:24] <Xenguy> !tell DJLILYAZI about ask
[05:24] <blueandwhiteg3> Is there any way to get the simple list of hardware supported resolutions which shows up at startup back up short of reinstalling Ubuntu?
[05:24] <volvoguy> hey guys, slightly off topic but i'll be using it with Ubuntu so hopefully it counts. i need a new video card and want the biggest bang for my buck for the occasional windows gaming session. considering both nvidia 6600's, should i go for more memory and low clock speed or less memory and almost double the clock speed?
[05:24] <bimberi> blueandwhiteg3: ha ok
[05:25] <michael> Following Error When Attempting To Update-- "W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb
[05:25] <michael>   403 Forbidden" -- How to fix??
[05:25] <bodaciousbrian> bimberi, i decided to cheat, and i found the package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 on apt, and im going to see if it will install the driver
[05:25] <DJLILYAZI> ok
[05:26] <DJLILYAZI> i am trying to use the LIVE CD and after the step that you pick your keybored
[05:26] <blueandwhiteg3> I guess that's a no? I might as well re-install.... why oh why has Ubuntu got to be so crazy? The code for GUI resolution selection has already been written and included, yet is inaccessible after install...
[05:26] <DJLILYAZI> it freezes after it tries to detect what CD ROM ihave
[05:26] <blueandwhiteg3> (I have been hopelessly spoiled by Mac OS X)
[05:26] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, are you trying to change resolutions?
[05:27] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, or add more resolution modes?
[05:27] <dabaR__> !windows
[05:27] <ubotu> from memory, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[05:27] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I am trying to add resolutions. Lots of them...
[05:27] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I simply want the long list of resolutions back up that appeared when I was installing Ubuntu.
[05:27] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, have you tried editing your xorg.conf manually? even with lots it wouldnt take long
[05:28] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, there is a command for that, give me a sec
[05:28] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I'll inevitably forget some resolutions and/or refresh rates, and I'll have to test every one, if I do it manually.
[05:28] <brasko> hi all.
[05:28] <brasko> Has anyone used cron on ubuntu?
[05:28] <volvoguy> blueandwhiteg3, or running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:28] <brasko> with 'crontab -e?'
[05:28] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I've already tried that command
[05:28] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, which command was it?
[05:28] <brasko> I do crontab -e, add a command, but it doesn't seem to get executed.
[05:28] <michael> Following Error When Attempting To Update-- "W: Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb  403 Forbidden" -- How do I fix this?
[05:29] <brasko> Is there a prefered way to do this on ubuntu?
[05:29] <michael> sorry to repeat-^
[05:29] <jahshua--> Xenguy: what might this mean "Please inspect:  /dev/.static (directory)  /dev/.udevdb (directory)"
[05:29] <trappist> michael: Seveas will have to fix that
[05:29] <bodaciousbrian> i had an ATI card, and as a result i was ALWAYS getting screwed by my video, so ive played with it plenty!
[05:29] <michael> hu??
[05:29] <monkey050> Is the guy who was helping me before with my LiveCD online?
[05:29] <dabaR__> michael: it is unavail at this time, is what the message is telling you.
[05:29] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I've done dpkg-reconfigure before just like that, and I also tried another option without luck. When I get to the autodetect screen, it logs me out of my account but doesn't display any errors...
[05:30] <michael> ok, sorry then, ty
[05:30] <dabaR__> michael: the owner, Seveas, will have to fix it.
[05:30] <Xenguy> jahshua--: false alarm? (I have those dir's too :-)
[05:30] <dabaR__> michael: or make it availm, rather.
[05:30] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, what kind of card?
[05:30] <brasko> someone must use cron here, any help?
[05:30] <volvoguy> bodaciousbrian, i bought a $30 nvidia card and it blew my $150 ati card away in linux.... well, until it blew up. (hence my earlier question) :)
[05:30] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: Intel GMA 900. At this rate, I might as well slap the install disc back into the drive and re-install... I have barely touched this fresh install.
[05:31] <monkey050> I've got an issue with Kubuntu Hoary and Ubunty Hoary LiveCDs.
[05:31] <monkey050> *Ubuntu
[05:31] <Tzi> Hi! Happy new year everyone =)
[05:31] <volvoguy> blueandwhiteg3, you need to be logged out of xwindows before you reconfigure the xserver.
[05:31] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, i have NO clue with the intel.... what you need is the command to regenerate the xorg.conf file
[05:32] <monkey050> Who wants to help me out this time?
[05:32] <Tzi> Does anyone know how to blacklist modules under Dapper?  I've added 'pcspkr' and 'ipaq' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d, but both modules are still being loaded
[05:32] <bodaciousbrian> does anyone know what command runs the xorg.conf generator thing? that prompts all the ?'s about mouse and keyboard and such?
[05:32] <DJLILYAZI> anyone what to help out a sister ?
[05:32] <volvoguy> bodaciousbrian, yeah - i just mentioned it a few minutes ago. ;)
[05:32] <monkey050> I need help with my LiveCDs.  Again.
[05:32] <bodaciousbrian> volvoguy, my pci geforce2 mx blew my ati radeon 9800 pro away
[05:33] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: the dpkg reconfigure thing does the ?s about mouse/kb/etc but when done yourself, there are even MORE questions, most of them rather esteroic
[05:33] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I wish the reconfigure thing had bothered to tell me I had to log out of X to use it... once again, I am spoiled by better OSes
[05:33] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, well if you dont suffer though that, then suffer though a reinstall.....
[05:33] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, if it was ati it would be fglrxconfig... would take you2  minutes, but dont by any means get an ati card!
[05:34] <sagarp> i'm trying to install the cvs version of cairo, but it says i have no font backends, even though i installed libfreetype
[05:34] <jahshua--> Xenguy: thanks for your help
[05:34] <monkey050> Monkey wants help.
[05:34] <volvoguy> blueandwhiteg3, if it's just more resolutions you want to add, just use gedit (with sudo) to add them to the xorg.conf file.
[05:34] <brasko> hahaha, please help :)
[05:34] <brasko> Has someone used cron before on ubuntu?
[05:35] <brasko> I normally edit with 'crontab -e', however that doesn't seem to work on ubuntu
[05:35] <Tzi> brasko: Really? It works for me!
[05:35] <monkey050> I'm having lockup problems once the Ubuntu and Kubuntu logons are suppossed to show up.
[05:35] <Tzi> What's it say?
[05:35] <brasko> the 'crontab -e' successfully finished, but the command didn't run
[05:35] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, i messed up the resoultions on this install also, but i only needed one added, and i did it manually
[05:35] <fmasi> how do i know what program is using a specific picture
[05:35] <bodaciousbrian> ill brb
[05:35] <Tzi> brasko: You may have the editor set incorrectly
[05:35] <brasko> 1 * * * * /usr/bin/touch /home/bob/touch.txt
[05:35] <monkey050> Someone please PM me about this
[05:35] <brasko> That's the command I ran.
[05:35] <Tzi> brasko: ls -l /etc/alternatives/editor
[05:35] <Tzi> Ahh okay
[05:35] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: I am going though it in the terminal only option of ubuntu. We'll see in a moment. The Intel GMA 900 works incredibly well with OS X Intel and it so happens the source code for it was contributed to XFree86 by Intel Corp - not even NVidia has gone that far
[05:36] <Tzi> brasko: So you got to the editor, then?
[05:36] <brasko> I set my EDITOR=vim
[05:36] <monkey050> Again, I'm having complete system lockup when the logon is suppossed to show up on the LiveCDs for Kubuntu and Ubunto Hoary distro.
[05:36] <brasko> I don't know if that's OK or not.
[05:36] <volvoguy> anyone know of an irc channel dealing specifically with video cards (or nvidia cards more specifically)?
[05:36] <monkey050> Someone please PM me about my problem.
[05:36] <HrdwrBoB> volvoguy: #nvidia.
[05:36] <HrdwrBoB> volvoguy: amazingly
[05:36] <brasko> Tzi: Did the cron command actually run for you?
[05:36] <Tzi> HrdwrBoB: :P
[05:36] <volvoguy> HrdwrBoB, ha! who woulda known? :)
[05:36] <Tzi> brasko: Yep, sure does
[05:36] <DJLILYAZI> i have a problem with the LIVE CD can anyone help me please !!!!!!!
[05:36] <sorush20> I can't install fake root what do I do?
[05:37] <brasko> wow
[05:37] <brasko> Does it have the same format mine has?
[05:37] <monkey050> DJLILYAZI, I'm also having problems but I'm still awaiting response.
[05:37] <brasko> or is it slightly different?
[05:37] <DJLILYAZI> it like freezes half way
[05:37] <DJLILYAZI> what is yours ?
[05:37] <machinist> On ATI cards, are the ATI drivers best... or is FGLRX still better for now?
[05:37] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian or anybody else: while I am going through this dpkg-reconfigure of xorg, can anybody contribute any notes on the modules that should be loaded by default of how the VRAM works? It's dynamic, in theory, but does Linux require a fixed amount be assigned? Can it be left blank and auto-assigned by the OS, or should I specify a value, say 128 MB?
[05:37] <Tzi> brasko: Same format
[05:37] <hikenboot> printing in Ubuntu is broken as default install...had to alter pemissions in cupsd.conf in order to run linux-config..now it works giving root control
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: ouch, maybe you setup cron somehow?
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: outside of the default settings?
[05:38] <monkey050> CAN I GET SOME HELP PLEASE???
[05:38] <hikenboot> is this a known issue?
[05:38] <Sam`lappy> gah
[05:38] <Tzi> brasko: Are you sure it isn't working?  That line will run on the first minute of every hour - that's what you are expecting?
[05:38] <bodaciousbrian> ok guys, im in my xorg.conf and i se im running driver "nv" how do i check to see if "nvidia" exists?
[05:38] <Tzi> brasko: Nope
[05:38] <Sam`lappy> i totally screwed my installation over....
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: :)
[05:38] <medom> i need a channel about XBOX. exist
[05:38] <hikenboot> using xfce by the way so not sure what that might have to do with it
[05:38] <hikenboot> I have noticed a lot of pam errors on this system
[05:38] <brasko> Tzi: No, I wanted to run every minute. Geez, I can be stupid!
[05:38] <Sam`lappy> what u need to know about xbox?
[05:38] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian or anybody else: what are all the x.org modules? dbe, record, v41 are not checked by default, what do they do?
[05:39] <Tzi> brasko: I had a feeling that might've been what you were expecting =)
[05:39] <medom> erase a partiton
[05:39] <Tzi> That would be *
[05:39] <brasko> Tzi: Thanks!
[05:39] <dfgas> hmmm, server install has no gui ehh
[05:39] <brasko> I really appreciate it!
[05:39] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, not a clue
[05:39] <Sam`lappy> if you wanna ever play a game then you will not erase a partition =)
[05:39] <Tzi> brasko: Sure ;)
[05:39] <hikenboot> found this article http://www.cetico.org/blog/2004/12/solution-for-web-admin-interface-for.html
[05:39] <ColonelPanique> dfgas : true servers don't usually have a gui
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> ssh is my gui! :P
[05:39] <coNP> ColonelPanique, not even X servers? :)
[05:40] <dfgas> ColonelPanique: gonna have xdmcp logins
[05:40] <monkey050> I.  Want.  Help.  Now.  Please.  Thanks!
[05:40] <brasko> Tzi: The file is there now. So cron isn't broken after all, I am. Thanks!
[05:40] <ColonelPanique> dfgas : pssst... configuring that doesn't require a gui install. ;-)
[05:40] <dfgas> ahh
[05:40] <Tzi> Dr_Willis: :P
[05:40] <monkey050> There's over a hundred people here.  Why can't anyone help???
[05:40] <Xenguy> jahshua--: yw
[05:41] <ColonelPanique> coNP : an X server doesn't have to run X clients locally...
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  well.. i just got here.. so i dont know what the question even was.
[05:41] <monkey050> *sigh*
[05:41] <Tzi> monkey050: a) I missed your question, as I arrived later, b) people tend to ignore you if you get too angsty =)
[05:41] <monkey050> I was patient at the beginning...
[05:41] <monkey050> Anyways.
[05:41] <coNP> ColonelPanique, sure, but an X server usually provides a GUI
[05:41] <blueandwhiteg3> mooney050: I'm sorry, but I don't even know what your problem is. All I hear is, "I need help" over and over...
[05:41] <Tzi> That's what you get for nuttin'
[05:42] <monkey050> I tried Kubuntu and Ubuntu Hoary LiveCDs.
[05:42] <tronix> monkey050: please remember that nobody is obligated to give you anything. just be happy if you get what you seek, but don't be grumpy if you don't get it.
[05:42] <monkey050> They get through the setup.
[05:42] <sorush20> where are the repositories for the java ?
[05:42] <coNP> monkey050, what's your problem?
[05:42] <monkey050> Then when it's suppossed to go to logon, the whole system stops.
[05:42] <monkey050> Cd drive won't open, capslock or numlock won't go on, nothing.
[05:42] <monkey050> no GUI loads.
[05:42] <Tzi> Try with some different boot options
[05:42] <bimberi> ubotu tell sorush20 about java
[05:42] <monkey050> I did.
[05:42] <Tzi> I assume you've tried google
[05:43] <coNP> monkey050, what about breezy?
[05:43] <Tzi> Search for 'ubuntu live' and your hardware
[05:43] <monkey050> I had to bypass the PCMCIA autodetect coz that caused it to stop there.
[05:43] <sorush20> bimberi: I can't find fakeroot in repositories
[05:43] <monkey050> It's just that the whole computer stops.
[05:43] <bimberi> sorush20: huh - it's in main!
[05:43] <monkey050> Right when it's suppossed to load up the GUI.
[05:44] <sorush20> bimberi: I get fakchroot
[05:44] <monkey050> I tried Kubuntu AND Ubuntu Hoary LiveCDs and both do the same.
[05:44] <xptest> monkey050: try increasing your page file size in windows, anyone else think this might help?
[05:44] <monkey050> What's windows have to do with it??
[05:44] <DJLILYAZI> yeah ...
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  and whats your system specs?
[05:44] <Tzi> haha =)
[05:44] <bodaciousbrian> err...... how do i check to see what video drivers are installed?
[05:44] <bimberi> sorush20: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[05:44] <DJLILYAZI> my probelm is worest then monkey050
[05:44] <monkey050> Ugh.
[05:44] <monkey050> It's a brand new Sony FS series laptop
[05:45] <DJLILYAZI> NICE !!!!!!!!!!
[05:45] <B-166_ER-X>  i have amsn 0.95 on ubuntu, all is working right...but my contacts are telling me i always appear 'offline'
[05:45] <xptest> the live cd stores info to temp file or page file on your windows  system
[05:45] <blueandwhiteg3> crap, i went through the entire process and I am not getting any new resolution showing up in gnome, despite having set them all up in the config... restarting now
[05:45] <monkey050> 1GB ram, 1.86 GHz processor, Win XP Home SP2, Nvidia GeForce Go 6400
[05:45] <monkey050> Anything else you need to know?
[05:45] <monkey050> Also Intel Pro Wireless B/G internal WAN
[05:46] <DJLILYAZI> i need help with LIVE CD please
[05:46] <blueandwhiteg3> Man, Ubuntu takes forever to startup...
[05:46] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6580
[05:46] <steven_> can somone help me with my ipod nano i have tried everything imaginable and i cannot copy music to it?
[05:46] <monkey050> I just got this computer on the 27th.  There should be enough space.
[05:46] <ColonelPanique> on a blue and white g3 mac os x take two or three forevers to start up
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  the live cd does not use the hard drive at all.
[05:47] <monkey050> The thing is the whole computer just STOPS!  CD drive wont open or anything, and the harddrive stops too.
[05:47] <michael> how do I change default editor, from gedit to kate?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  its a Centrino Processor?
[05:47] <monkey050> Well, it causes the harddrive to stop spinning as well as the CD tray not to open
[05:47] <cafuego> ColonelPanique: Not if you run OSX 10.2 or earlier or give it a GB of ram.
[05:47] <monkey050> yes
[05:47] <monkey050> It's got Centrino.
[05:47] <bimberi> sorush20: uncomment line 5
[05:47] <monkey050> But it's a Pentium M 780 or so.
[05:47] <steven_> can somone help me with my ipod nano i have tried everything imaginable and i cannot copy music to it?
[05:47] <monkey050> The Specsheet is right on Sonystyle's site.
[05:47] <blueandwhiteg3> colonelpanique: I am comparing Ubuntu to OS X on the *exact same hardware*
[05:48] <monkey050> Anybody want to take this to PM as everything is going too fast in here?
[05:48] <ColonelPanique> cafuego : oh, gee, why stop there.   why not add solid state storage and an open firmware tweaked by the Woz himself ;-)
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  the live cd's have a dozen+ boot options that can work around problems. I find the Ubuntu live cd's to be not as 'good' as say Knoppix in some ways
[05:48] <monkey050> Well, I tried a boot option.
[05:48] <monkey050> The only one i really need is to bypass the PCMCIA detection as it froze there before too
[05:48] <bodaciousbrian> how do i check to see if the "nvidia" driver is installed?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  may want to check the Ubuntu wiki and forums and try the 'noapci' and 'noapic' options also.
[05:48] <monkey050> Everything else other than that is fine until it has to load up
[05:49] <DJLILYAZI> live cd help anyone ?
[05:49] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, the kernel driver or the x.org driver?
[05:49] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: Sounds great! I think Apple is actually working on solid state storage for the OS.... I'm actually serious, though.
[05:49] <Friar_tuck> brian it should be in applications->system tools
[05:49] <bodaciousbrian> coNP the one that i point to in xorg.conf
[05:49] <monkey050> I did post on the forum, i'm also trying to get help on Weebls-Stuff.
[05:49] <blueandwhiteg3> Hah! A reboot was what was needed! Why oh why can't small notes like this be added? Like "Log out to autodetect resolutions otherwise it will fail without giving you any useful errors" and "Now that you've finished reconfiguring X.org, please reboot"
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  'search' the forums for similer make/models..  theres a laptop discussion formum
[05:49] <Friar_tuck> and when you start ubuntu the nvidia logo will appear
[05:50] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: On the exact same Intel hardware, OS X boots in about 1/3-1/4 the time of Ubuntu.
[05:50] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: You don't need tor eboot after reconfigureing Xorg.
[05:50] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: It didn't work out that way. I logged out, and logged back in, but the new resolutions could not be found until reboot.
[05:50] <DJLILYAZI> i need help with LIVe cd it will not install all the way
[05:50] <monkey050> Willis, i've already posted about my problem on the forum.
[05:50] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: You forgot to restart X, which is a different issue.
[05:51] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Loggoing out doesn't restart X.
[05:51] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : not to sound like the drive through in dude where's my car, but ...and tehnnnn?
[05:51] <blueandwhiteg3> Despite leaving X to perform the function, that doesn't actually restart it?
[05:51] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, im trying to get nvidia working, the driver on there website wont work becasue it needs nvidia.ko??? and the one i found on apt looks like the right proprietary driver, might be old but it doesnt matter much, i just need to see where it installed to and how to access it, because setting my driver to "nvidia" in xorg.conf isnt cutting it
[05:52] <DJLILYAZI> anyone help ?
[05:52] <DJLILYAZI> live cd problems
[05:52] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, have you installed nvidia-glx
[05:53] <vegalabs> blueandwhiteg3, no, you don't actually *leave* xorg. you must restart it with say ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:53] <gerald-volt> how come when I use gedit or leafpad to view a file, it says it cannot detect the character coding
[05:53] <gerald-volt> but I'm able to do a cat filename
[05:53] <monkey050> So.... WHY does it lock up when it's suppossed to load the GUI???
[05:53] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, nope ill try that now
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  and your system specs are? and the problem is?
[05:53] <blueandwhiteg3> vegalabs: Hmm, I'll keep that in mind. I still think a prompt explaining that would have been helpful...
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  my guess.. apci, and or apic issues.. hence the suggestion to try 'noapic' and 'noapic'
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> ok first the problem is
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> ok so i go thought the setup of LIVE cd
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> then after i select my keybored
[05:54] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, no i ddint have that installed, does that mean the driver i got from nvidias site should work now?
[05:54] <monkey050> but how do I use those options in addition to bypas PCMCIA???
[05:54] <DJLILYAZI> it tries to detect my CD ROM and then it freezes...
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  tack the 3 of them together..
[05:54] <monkey050> but... how?
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> prosessor - p4 ht 2.8
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> dvd/ cd writer - lg 4082B
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> video - graphics card ati 9600
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> mouther bored msi 865PE Neo2
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> ram 2 gb
[05:55] <DJLILYAZI> hard drive 250gb
[05:55] <monkey050> I'm a complete n00b at this, by the way.
[05:55] <ColonelPanique> monkey050 : with. your. keyboard.
[05:55] <monkey050> Yeah, that was helpful.
[05:55] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, it is very difficult question
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> at the boot prompt  - tack them all to the end of the line.. this is sort of why i suggested checking the forums/wiki it whoud detail it better then i can tell you.
[05:55] <erica> hello i need some help please
[05:55] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, =P ill try it ans see if it will configure a kernel now
[05:55] <erica> i am very new to this os and do not know how to install programs
[05:55] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, I installed the driver from nvidia.com and it worked for me
[05:55] <monkey050> but HOW do I put them together?  Separate them with a comma?  I have NO idea what to do and if i do something wrong it's on you.
[05:56] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, but I think I have installed nvidia-glx before
[05:56] <ColonelPanique> erica : System > Adminsitration > Synaptic Package Manager
[05:56] <erica> ok thanks
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  no comma. :P just put them all 3 together
[05:56] <monkey050> But you don't understand.  I don't know what you mean by "put them together".  HOW?
[05:56] <monkey050> It can't be as easy as you make it.
[05:56] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis , u think its what ?
[05:57] <erica> and then what...i downloaded a program to watch avi files so what do i do to install that
[05:57] <monkey050> If you're so great with this, can't you tell me how to add the commands together with the bypass PCMCIA one?
[05:57] <erica> i apologize for the ignorance
[05:58] <ColonelPanique> erica : in Synaptic, you "Mark for installation" then "Apply" after the software is installed, it 9ideally) shows up on your "Applications" menu. ;-)
[05:58] <bennysianipar> hello
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  at the initial boot item . you entered somthning like 'ubuntu nopcmcia' dident you?
[05:58] <monkey050> No.
[05:58] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, the proprietart driver still says that nvidia.ko is missing and it fails
[05:59] <monkey050> It was something-something/something_PCMCIA=False
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> well tack on 'noapci and nopic' after that =False line...
[05:59] <monkey050> With a space between each?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> of course.
[05:59] <monkey050> now are those spelled correctly?  Because that's what I'm going to try.
[05:59] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, do you have any idea what it can be ?
[06:00] <agent2> i just got done installing ubuntu and when i log into the machine i cannot run most programs (date and time, firefox..and others) unless i'm root. if im a regular user they just plain old dont open (no terminal output either). i installed on another machine the other day and this didnt happen
[06:00] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, doesn't it compile a kernel module?
[06:00] <nekostar> anyone know about h264 codecs on linux?
[06:00] <agent2> by login, i mean into gnome
[06:00] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6581 I still can't download the damn java package and no I don't want to do it manually since there is a package already
[06:00] <DJLILYAZI> anyone can help me out with my LIVE CD..it will not install it stoped half way
[06:00] <ColonelPanique> agent2 : negative beans compadre!
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  when in doubt - try the 'noapic' and 'noapci' options with any live cd.
[06:00] <ColonelPanique> !tell agent2 about root
[06:00] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, thats where it fails, it warns me that my gcc is newer than the one my kernel was compiled with, then it starts to build the module, it gets to 100% and says it cant find nvidia.ko
[06:01] <pro> hey all... can someone help me?
[06:01] <monkey050> Dr-Willis, you sure you have those spelled correctly?
[06:01] <bodaciousbrian> where is ubuntus rc.d or init.d?
[06:01] <sorush20> pro: what's the problem
[06:01] <agent2> ColonelPanique, oh i know all about that. i activated root because i like it like that. but thats beside the issue. if im a regular user and type 'firefox' Nothing will happen. if i'm root, it loads right up.
[06:01] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, I C, doesn't it write out as error?
[06:01] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, in /etc/
[06:01] <ColonelPanique> monkey050 : clue: it won't hurt to just hurry up and *try it* ;-)
[06:01] <erica> i am so lost i can not find the "mark for installation" and i dont know what files to mark for installation....lol
[06:01] <crimsun> bodaciousbrian: /etc/init.d/ , /etc/rcX.d/
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix-cheatcodes.txt
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> lists about every option there is for the stuff.
[06:02] <vegalabs> for christ's sake, try it!
[06:02] <pro> sorush20, i just upgrade to breezy and i got this problem while loading gnome with my keyboard "Error activating XKB configuration"
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> acpi=off     could be used also.
[06:02] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, thanks, i forgot =) im used to slack now....    the only error it give me is the nvidia.ko, but its a big long paragraph
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> of course the initial kernel/item for Ubuntu is 'ubuntu' i think.. not 'knoppix'
[06:03] <Madpilot> !tell erica about synaptic
[06:03] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, and what does that do ?
[06:03] <erica> i do apologize i am retarded about this stuff
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  disables the apic, and or apci features of the system.  which can cause issues with siomne systems
[06:03] <ColonelPanique> erica : in synaptic: there are three panes.  the one on the left contains categories of applications, the one at tope right contains the applications.  if you see an applciation which interests you, right click it in the pane in the right and choose "mark for installation' then click the "apply" button (with the little check mark icon) to actually install it
[06:03] <monkey050> These better work.
[06:04] <vegalabs> wow
[06:04] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, i found Nvidia-glx in init.d,   should i put that in driver in xorg.conf?
[06:04] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, surely not
[06:04] <erica> ok so the program i downloaded should be in there also?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> and if they dont? :P
[06:04] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, how is this done?
[06:04] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok...
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  how is what done?
[06:04] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, you should see if there is a kernel module named 'nvidia.ko'
[06:04] <ColonelPanique> erica: you shouldn't have to download a program to install it per se.  just use synaptic...it's easier, and safer that way. ;-0
[06:04] <coNP> (bodaciousbrian, in /lib/modules :))
[06:04] <bodaciousbrian> how do i search for it?
[06:04] <Madpilot> erica: what are you trying to install?
[06:05] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, the 'noapic and 'noapci'
[06:05] <ColonelPanique> erica : use the search function to look for specific software too...like do a search for dvd, for example.
[06:05] <Malachi> How can you get themes for Ubuntu?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  at the initial boot loader prompt you type in the options as
[06:05] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, it just litls my kernels 2.6.12-10-amd64-generic  2.6.12-10-amd64-k8  2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[06:05] <Madpilot> !tell Malachi about themes
[06:05] <Malachi> Besides the ones that come with it?
[06:06] <ColonelPanique> Malachi : cheque ou gnome-look.org
[06:06] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, I would say type "find /lib/modules/ -name nvidia.ko
[06:06] <coNP> " in the terminal window
[06:06] <erica> i am trying to install avi-xmms i think
[06:06] <Malachi> Thanks.
[06:06] <Malachi> Do they have to be specifically for Ubuntu?
[06:06] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, nothing...
[06:06] <erica> i want  to be able to watch avi files on this machine
[06:07] <ColonelPanique> Madpilot : tell erica how to install it. may the schwartz be with you... ;-)
[06:07] <Madpilot> Malachi: no
[06:07] <Malachi> Okay.
[06:07] <erica> thanks anyway
[06:07] <bodaciousbrian> schwartz, haha havent heard that in a while
[06:07] <Madpilot> Malachi: look for Metacity or GTK2 themes
[06:07] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i type them as is ?
[06:07] <Malachi> Okay,
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  at the initial boot theres SOME 'thing' like ubuntu  that you enter.. then the other options
[06:08] <Madpilot> erica: have a look here for mp3, avi and all that sort of stuff: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,   knoppix works in the identical manor - example lines are at --> ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix-cheatcodes.txt
[06:08] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, ok yeah now i know what you are saying 100%...
[06:08] <pro> sorush20, so i hate to get that message always i start gnome and i can type the "n" with the "hatty" (im mexican and i need that letter :P)
[06:08] <erica> ok thankyou
[06:08] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, thank you ...your so helpfull
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  trivially easy eh?
[06:08] <ColonelPanique> can't peeps just use that easyubuntu thang to get kicking with the commonplace shizzle?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  hard to 'explain' since i dont have a live cd here and dont know what the initial 'thing' is :P
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> it may be 'ubuntu' or may be 'knoppix' for all i know.
[06:09] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, when you try to run the installer from nvidia, does it successfully compile the kernel driver?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  and i bet its all detailed in the Ubuntu live CD forum however. :P
[06:10] <DarkSenay> say, im having some problems configuring vncserver in ubuntu
[06:10] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, no, i dont think so
[06:10] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, no not really i have been having a hard time finding one answear
[06:10] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, it should compile one
[06:10] <DarkSenay> when i connect with tightvnc, i get a weird lookin background with an x as a cursor
[06:11] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, it does get to 100% before it throws the error
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : you don't say! ;-)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  yea. looking at the forum now.. it is one of the smaller ones . Guess everyone that needs a live cd - uses Knoppix. :P
[06:11] <DarkSenay> lol, yeah, im guessing this is an esy fix
[06:11] <DarkSenay> im just a nub
[06:11] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, lol i use that too
[06:11] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : that's coz ya gotta edit yer ~/.vnc/xstartup file and slap ye some WM or DE startup action in dere!
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  the Ubuntu live cd is just not as 'cutting' edge as knoppix..  not sure how much work is going on with it.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  On my own machines I use DSL, or Knoppix, or Wolvix.
[06:12] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : are you starting up the vnc server by typing "vncserver" or some crazy jive like that?
[06:12] <merly> is it possible to make a PXE - floppy for free? using windows?
[06:12] <DarkSenay> yeah
[06:13] <DarkSenay> vncserver -randombitshere
[06:13] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, but what error? only that nvidia.ko cannot be found?
[06:13] <merly> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a comp with a cd drive that's not working
[06:13] <saotome_> anyone here can help me with a problem with generics in java 1.5?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,   noapic nolapic acpi=off vga=771     - seems to be a decent set of failsafe options.
[06:13] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, i have "linux-headers-$(uname -r)" installed thats the only kernel source i know that i have, i also have build-essential and the nvidia .run file i downloaded
[06:13] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : werd! then yeah, edit ~/.vnc/xstartup  and slap a little : gnome-session in that bad daddy
[06:13] <crimsun> saotome_: ##java is probably better
[06:13] <DarkSenay> ahhh, someone told me that b4
[06:13] <DarkSenay> but i put it in .xsession
[06:13] <monkey050> It didn't work!
[06:13] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : then you'll get some Gnomeage when ye connect from the remote box
[06:13] <saotome_> cirmsun: yeah, i know, i just thoug i'd give it a try
[06:14] <DarkSenay> i need the gnome
[06:14] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ill clsoe x and run it again see what it says
[06:14] <saotome_> crimsun:  ##java :You need to be identified to join that channel
[06:14] <saotome_> crimsun: ??
[06:14] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : silly mon! it no go in dere! it go in ~/.vnc/xstartup ya gots ta trust me mon!
[06:14] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, so i should try that
[06:14] <DarkSenay> no problem mon!
[06:14] <crimsun> !tell saotome_ about register
[06:14] <monkey050> Dr_willis, it didn't work.  ColonolPanique, get back to me when you think of something helpful, alright?
[06:15] <ColonelPanique> DarkSenay : cheque it mon... be tryin it out.  you come back, say "aww yeah it work so fine!" ;-)
[06:15] <Deep6> can anyone give me a link to get java working in firefox..... I've installed it but I don't have the libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  may want to try the   'noapic nolapic acpi=off vga=771'  options - that seems to be reccomended on the live cd forums..
[06:15] <Amaranth> !java
[06:15] <spect3r> clear
[06:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> I had to use Nolapic on my own laptop.
[06:16] <spect3r> !azureus
[06:16] <ubotu> azureus is probably a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:16] <Deep6> !javadebs
[06:16] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[06:16] <jaro> oh, I've went through the first stage installation on my laptop but Ubuntu freezes when it tries to start hotplug? Can I tell kernel somehow not to start it?
[06:16] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, so i type that whole line nolapic acpi=off vga=771  ?
[06:16] <monkey050> But I still need to skip the PCMCIA thing.
[06:16] <monkey050> I put that first then tack them on the end?
[06:16] <ColonelPanique> libjavaplugin_oji.so - evrh time i be seeing dat liberry, it make me think of the oujia board!
[06:16] <cyphase> can i copy /etc/apache2 from a haory install to a breezy install and have it work?
[06:16] <cyphase> hoary*
[06:16] <cyphase> and should i at all?
[06:17] <ColonelPanique> cyphase : all signs point to...maybe!
[06:17] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok, first it says it cant find a pre compiled kernel, and asks to find one on the internet, it cant find one, and asks me if i want to make one, then it says i have a different gcc thatn my kernel used, and then it compiles the kernel sorce, it gets to 100% and says the nvidia.ko cannot be found in the sorce
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  there is that 'first' thing you have to type. ie: knoppix, or ubuntu, or whatever it is thats the name of the kernel image to boot.
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  then tack those options to the end.
[06:17] <SenayB0x0r> my bad, where is the /.vnc folder normally located after an apt-get install
[06:18] <gerald-volt> anyone know why when I open up a certain file with gedit, it says the characters are not encoded, but i"m able to "cat filename" in terminal
[06:18] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : it be in yer home mon! aka "~"
[06:18] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, are you sure you select "yes" ehen it asks if you want to try with the different gcc?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> SenayB0x0r,  its made when you first run vncserver
[06:18] <SenayB0x0r> ya
[06:18] <monkey050> WILLIS:  i thought it was nolapci
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> I need some guidance on understanding how to use partitioning tools.  I understood the partitioning step in the install just fine.  However, I don't understand sectors, cylinders, etc.  I would like to resize a partition, and do it in terms of megabytes.  Can I do that, and how?
[06:18] <SenayB0x0r> and if it not be there
[06:18] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, of course, my version is 4.0, it says the kernel version was 3.4, mine is newer
[06:18] <SenayB0x0r> create it
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> monkey050,  theres several dozen options that may or may not be needed
[06:19] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i will give it a try now
[06:19] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : then ye gota to be runnin' the vncserver command boiiii!
[06:19] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i will be back if it does not work ok ?
[06:19] <SenayB0x0r> i did mon
[06:19] <monkey050> Well, I'm going to try it again with those and if it doesn't work I'm goin to complain a bit more.
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,   find out what that first word ya got to use is. :P i aint about to download a live cd image
[06:19] <monkey050> BYES!
[06:19] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, you might try to install gcc-3.4 and try to compile with it
[06:19] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : be doin' an "ls -a" you be seeing .vnc ?!
[06:19] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, thank you for all your help...i love you for it
[06:20] <SenayB0x0r> wow, nub mistake, cd /.vnc wasnt the command i wanted
[06:20] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, downlaoding
[06:20] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : naw naw!! you wan cd ~/.vnc mon
[06:21] <SenayB0x0r> and then i ya, then i create a .xsession file with
[06:21] <nekostar> yeah
[06:21] <nekostar> im fuxxoredgreatly
[06:21] <nekostar> all this h264 media and nothing to play it in
[06:21] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ill go try again, modprobe nvidia says /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-k8/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory, i dont know if that tells you anything or not.... brb
[06:22] <blueandwhiteg3> Is there any way to get better anti-aliasing under Ubuntu/Gnome? The anti-aliasing works, but it's not aggressive enough. It's like 2x oversampling, I would really like more...
[06:22] <cafuego> nekostar: plays fine on my ipod
[06:22] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : cheque it boiii! Iffn ya run the command "vncserver" it be making the directory ~/.vnc and in that directory be some files.  one file be "xstartup" that is the file ye be editin' to put in the line "gnome-session" sight!
[06:22] <SenayB0x0r> lets try dis again
[06:23] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok apparently im still using gcc 4, how do i switch it to use 3.4?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  how can you even tell? :P
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  I sure cant tell.  You refering to the fonts? or games?
[06:23] <blueandwhiteg3> Dr_Willis: I'm talking about fonts. Yes, I am picky. But the characters are just not as strongly formed as they could be...
[06:23] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, are you my wife?
[06:23] <blueandwhiteg3> That's the best way to describe lower levels of anti-aliasing
[06:24] <pro> sorush20, lol, thanks for nothing
[06:24] <blueandwhiteg3> bodaciousbrian: Is your wife a graphic artist? :P
[06:24] <bodaciousbrian> blueandwhiteg3, no but shes knitpicky
[06:24] <blueandwhiteg3> (I'm  not a graphics artist per se, but I do so much with graphics I notice these things)
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  gnome/X has a few options for the font settings. then itheres a few if you got a LCD monitor also.
[06:24] <blueandwhiteg3> I don't need or want subpixel as I don't have an LCD on that machine. My LCD is on my PPC OS X machine.
[06:25] <ColonelPanique> II got the 32 cinema...recognie boiii!
[06:25] <SenayB0x0r> ColonelPanique, what if dere is no xstartup file just create one den riiight?
[06:25] <SenayB0x0r> and den restart vncserver
[06:25] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : you can make one, and put gnome-session in it, indeed! (boiii)
[06:26] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: There's a limit to how much Linux can process raltively low-quality fonts.
[06:26] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: There's no 32" cinema display :)
[06:26] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : yes, you have to do vncserver again after creating / editing the xstartup file
[06:26] <nekostar> cafuego, we are not talking about an ipod
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> ColonelPanique,  each time you run vncserver it will launch a NEW vnc session
[06:26] <nekostar> we are talking about a few dozen gigs of vid files
[06:26] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: Then I think I need to rip some fonts off my OS X machine, as it has no problems making any non-bitmap fonts look screamingly good.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> ColonelPanique,  use 'vncserver --kill :1' or :2 or :3 or whatever to close out any running ones
[06:27] <cafuego> nekostar: I thought we were talking about playing h.264 media?
[06:27] <nekostar> yes
[06:27] <nekostar> on my linux box
[06:27] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : not for the general public anyway. ;-)
[06:27] <nekostar> in say xine
[06:27] <cafuego> nekostar: Doesn't mplayer do that?
[06:27] <nekostar> not so well..
[06:27] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, set CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[06:27] <nekostar> and mplayer um
[06:27] <nekostar> lets say it doesnt impress me
[06:27] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, or maybe better "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"
[06:28] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Even then, X isn't quite as advanced as Quartz (But you can certainly try, just dump the .dfont files in ~/.fonts)
[06:28] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: I really would kill for better looking anti-aliasing about now.
[06:28] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, ok brb
[06:29] <nekostar> eh
[06:29] <nekostar> x264 compile fails
[06:29] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: the stuff under Linux looks rather like bitmaps that have had a slight gaussian blur applied... just like Windows
[06:29] <nekostar> this is gonna be one of those weeks isn't it
[06:29] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Yes, that's a matter of font rendering engine.
[06:30] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : you be kiddin' mon!  what next? you gonna suggest that superkaramba doesn't have hardware acceleration like the os x dock? h0h0h0!
[06:30] <jaro> Which is the command which takes care about the sedcond stage install?
[06:30] <Sord444> quick question - ubuntu automatically mounts my ntfs partition to /media/hda1 but no normal user can access it. i tried using chmod on it and no help and i tried editing fstab to use options user,rw,auto instead of defaults. how can i allow normal users to access it?
[06:30] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, it didnt seem to change it
[06:30] <cafuego> jaro: base-config I think
[06:30] <blueandwhiteg3> Linux is open source, and there's plenty of different anti-alising stuff out there.. why oh why hasn't anybody bothered to incorporate it?
[06:30] <bodaciousbrian> how do i return the value of CC?
[06:31] <SenayB0x0r> ColonelPanique, dat didnt work so well man
[06:31] <Hobbsee> Sord444: umask=000, make sure it says ro instead of rw
[06:31] <SenayB0x0r> got de same ting
[06:31] <cafuego> Sord444: You cannot write to NTFS. For reading, pass 'umask=000'
[06:31] <jaro> cafuego: yes, it is, thanks. I've had to reboot and it didn't come up again.
[06:31] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, then I have no idea
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> blueandwhiteg3,  i would guess.. legal issues.
[06:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cafuego: You can with kernel 2.6.15
[06:31] <Sord444> Hobbsee: where do i put umask=000?
[06:31] <ColonelPanique> SenayB0x0r : weird science mon!  you got some bad juju up in de hood. maybe the doctor of Willis can hep you be straight steppin mon.
[06:32] <cafuego> PuMpErNiCkLe: Without eventually destroying the filesystem?
[06:32] <blueandwhiteg3> Dr_Willis: I don't care. VLC, Mplayer, etc are all way worse patent minefields, yet are both widely available and used...
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> fonts under X - are much improved compared to say 4 years.
[06:32] <Sord444> Hobbsee: in fstab?
[06:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cafuego: Apparently. :)
[06:32] <Hobbsee> Sord444: sorry, in your fstab
[06:32] <Sord444> ok
[06:32] <cafuego> Sord444: On the options column in fstab
[06:32] <SenayB0x0r> lol, no idea what that means
[06:32] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, if it is an original ubuntu kernel, you should install the driver for your kernel from the restricted repository; otherwise try to recompile your kernel with gcc 4.
[06:32] <madewokherd> I think he's talking about the thing where you can't change the size of any files
[06:32] <madewokherd> oh wait
[06:32] <madewokherd> that's old
[06:32] <machinist> How can I go about playing MP3s? I downloaded the gstreamer-mad package... but every time totem tries to start it says that it is already in use?
[06:33] <Sord444> Hobbsee: thanks that did it!
[06:33] <bodaciousbrian> coNP, i tried that, and i figured it was installed, and i switch the xorg.conf to nvidia, and x wouldnt even start
[06:33] <Hobbsee> no problems!
[06:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> machinist: Is it already in use?  (On another virtual display or something...)
[06:33] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : ever hear of that crazy philosophy known as "picking the right tool for the job" or perhaps "beggars can't be choosy"?
[06:33] <madewokherd> amazing
[06:33] <Toma-> bodaciousbrian: did you run nvidia-glx-config enable or whatever it is?
[06:33] <madewokherd> he's right
[06:33] <coNP> bodaciousbrian, sorry I have to go, bye
[06:34] <machinist> ColonelPanique, it is not currently in use, nor is it under one of the vdisplays or anything. I can't launch Totem at all...
[06:34] <davidleeroth> can someone get ubotu to tell me about repositories?
[06:34] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Why don't YOU write a antialiasing engine?
[06:34] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: Then you better not run around telling me how Linux is so ready for the desktop like I've gotten from some people...
[06:34] <machinist> Quite strange really.
[06:34] <cafuego> !repos
[06:34] <ubotu> No idea, cafuego
[06:34] <davidleeroth> !repositories
[06:34] <cafuego> Did he forget them?
[06:34] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:34] <madewokherd> blueandwhiteg3: whose desktop?
[06:34] <bodaciousbrian> Toma-, i did, but it didnt work, allthough what you just said did detect something that is enable/disable
[06:34] <ColonelPanique> machinist : eh? que?
[06:34] <davidleeroth> !easysource
[06:34] <bodaciousbrian> brb
[06:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:35] <Madpilot> machinist: try installing totem-xine instead; totem-gstreamer (the stock version) seems to have various issues
[06:35] <bina> HAI ...BOLEH KENALAN GAK?????????????????
[06:35] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : Linux is not ready for the desktop my friend...hence the "right tool for the job" i use Linux for servers. and OS X on the desktop skillinz!
[06:35] <machinist> Madpilot, yah, I'm gonna grab the totem-xine package instead... the gstreamer one never ever seems to work for me. Thoght I would give it a go though.
[06:35] <cafuego> ColonelPanique: it's just dandy for my desktop, thanks.
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> and i dont care about purty fonts. :P
[06:36] <ernstp> How do I play MIDI files on linux?
[06:36] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: At least you're not talking out both sides of your mouth like I've heard from some Linux fanboys :)
[06:36] <ColonelPanique> !startadesktopwar ? (boiiii)
[06:36] <ubotu> ColonelPanique: Are you smoking crack?
[06:36] <Madpilot> machinist: totem-gstreamer worked fine for me in Hoary, broke in Breezy... -xine works fine, though
[06:36] <ColonelPanique> yes!
[06:36] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: I just think that there's no good reason why fonts can't look good under Linux
[06:37] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : mr jobs butters my bread.  and linux serves my iTunes Library! ;-)
[06:37] <machinist> Madpilot, with the totem-xine package there doesn't seem to be a mpeg package though... any idea on playing mp3s under the xine implementation?
[06:37] <Madpilot> machinist: I'm not sure how it works, but my totem-xine plays mp3 for me... :P  you might need to grab the w32codecs package
[06:38] <machinist> Madpilot, I'll grab those, see what turns up.
[06:38] <ernstp> anyone know a program for midi files?
[06:38] <allison_1984> machinist: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:38] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[06:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:38] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: have you been through /usr/share/doc/libfreetype6 yet?
[06:39] <blueandwhiteg3> cafuego: I'm actually looking at stuff related to that now...
[06:39] <bodaciousbrian> =/ i cant get this to work, and now i screwed up my compiler.
[06:39] <cdubya> ernstp, kmid?
[06:39] <bodaciousbrian> how do i use set CC to point to my compiler?
[06:39] <ernstp> cdubya: oki. know any gnome app also? :-)
[06:39] <cdubya> ernstp, timidity?
[06:39] <ColonelPanique> blueandwhiteg3 : but you know what man? in this community, you cannot sit back and cry about the brokeness of this or that, my friend.  you are exected to do something about it! this stuff didn't all arrive here because a bunch of spoiled complainers sat around and whined it into existence! ;-)
[06:40] <bodaciousbrian> nvm i got it
[06:40] <sorush20> do I need set dma to on on sata drivers?
[06:40] <bina> HAI.......................
[06:40] <cdubya> ernstp, methinks there's a gnome front-end, but not sure on the name
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> You tell them all ColonelPanique ! :P
[06:40] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, it did not work
[06:40] <blueandwhiteg3> ColonelPanique: before I could do anything about the problem, I have to determine the full extent of the problem. It's quite likely it is already solved, or partly solved.
[06:40] <machinist> allison_1984: the wiki is what got me to the unstable gstreamer performance, haha.
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  sorry to hear that.
[06:40] <madewokherd> ColonelPanique: what about bug-filing?
[06:40] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, it frooze at 83% trying to detect my hard drive
[06:40] <machinist> Just gotta switch to Xine... solve me ol' problems.
[06:40] <madewokherd> don't bugs help?
[06:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ColonelPanique: :O
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  icky.   how new is this system? it have sata drives? does Knoppix work fine?
[06:42] <e_machinist> I thought my nick looked strange.
[06:43] <allison_1984> machinist: what player r u using ?
[06:43] <b1shop> looking for a repository that has monoodevelop
[06:44] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, yeah knoppix works good...
[06:44] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, its only 1 year old
[06:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: universe repository has it
[06:44] <weasel__> Hey guys, I have a small question. Wireless drivers.  I have an eMachines M6807, Broadcom 54g Maxperformance BCM4306.  Does Broadcom have linux drivers, or should I go with ndiswrapper?
[06:44] <B1zz> anybody try to install legends on ubuntu?
[06:44] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: how do i add it?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  so we are bacjk to the ubuntu live cd not being as up to date as knoppix. :()
[06:44] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: and can you tell me which version is in there?>
[06:45] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i just wanted to try it before i installed it on my partition
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Open synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> check the box :)
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  if you like XFCE - check out Wolvix live cd. it has the latest XFCE on it.  but i still perfer DSL.
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: 0.7
[06:45] <ColonelPanique> madewokherd : aww mon! i almost overlooked ye!  put it this way boiii i have installed six different instances of bugzilla, and proceeded to file bugs into three or four of them! ;-P
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  one reason i dont like the live cd.. the REAL install works Much much much better.
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: so it's a bit behind :)
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  the ubuntu live cd isent that good of a test it seems. it wont work on my laptop either.. that i do jhave Ubuntu 5.10 isntalled on (5.10 works good)
[06:45] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: yuck.   MonoDevelop 0.9 is currtne!
[06:45] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, so you think if i go with the instal i would not have problems ?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  go with the install/. $*#*#  the live cd.
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Dapper has 0.9, but Dapper is still 'unstable'
[06:46] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, where ?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  where what?
[06:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: You might be able to install it using the .deb from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/monodevelop/
[06:47] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: i'm new to ubuntu.  looking to devel on it and move to a CentOS box
[06:47] <e_machinist> This is strange... using_dma is reported off for my dvd and cdrw... but under hdparm -i... it reports that both drives are using udma2 mode...
[06:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Welcome here, then. :)
[06:48] <e_machinist> Is this a strange occurrence?
[06:48] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, you said go to something install/ ....???
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  Install the real Ubuntu.. and toss the live cd in the corner. :P
[06:49] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanx.  i'm finding my way around now that i got past the no root passwd thing!  ;-)
[06:49] <cafuego> nekostar: Yeah, mplayer has no issues playing x264 video.
[06:49] <ColonelPanique> i thought the live cd was a poor candidate to install from indeed. DJLILYAZI download and burn the single Ubuntu install cd and try that indeed. (grrrrl) ;-)
[06:49] <b1shop> jusst not sure where to find all the extras not included in the DVD
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> b1shop: Synaptic, with all the repositories added, has most stuff.
[06:50] <e_machinist> I actually downloaded the current Breezy badger ISO on my 56k dial up... took forever.
[06:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> e_machinist: :o
[06:50] <e_machinist> Not sure why I did...
[06:50] <b1shop> PuMpErNiCkLe: is there a page where i can find all the repositories?
[06:51] <cafuego> !repositories
[06:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[06:51] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, i used the partition magic to do a linux partion is that a good idea ?
[06:51] <b1shop> ty
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  the installer can resize the existing windows aprtitions.. no PM needed.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  OR you could just shrink the windows partition and leave a section of the HD unallocated and let the installer partiion/install there,
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  dont let PM make/format the linux partitions befor the isntaller.. its nto worth the effort
[06:52] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, REALLY ?? so if i want it on a partion alone for linux i can do that for me ?
[06:52] <IRON_FART> hello
[06:53] <ColonelPanique> interesting...he is both a solid, and a gas! ;-)
[06:53] <sasquatc4> can anyone help me get direct rendering working on my laptop, i had it at one point, and then it just seemed to dissappear a few weeks ago, i guess after an apt upgrade
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  it worked for my laptop.. ya may want to Defrag/backup  your XP stuff first hiowever.. JUST in case.
[06:53] <blackvd> need some help setting up a staic ip.I'm trying to portforward my net gear RT311 router for azureus, but not sure how to get a static ip?
[06:53] <IRON_FART> indeed
[06:53] <blackvd> anyone familiar with port forwarding
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> DJLILYAZI,  well i am off.. good luck
[06:53] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, oh i am scared now ...last time i tried to install linux that was no dual boot
[06:53] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, thank you for allllllll ur help
[06:53] <nima_> guys i kno it sounds stupid...but anybody knos how to update BSD?
[06:54] <DJLILYAZI> Dr_Willis, you have been so nice and helpfull thank you soo much
[06:54] <cdubya> blackvd, what's the question?
[06:54] <e_machinist> Update BSD? I had a run in with FreeBSD the other month... never could get the X server running...
[06:54] <nima_> i have that running though..lol
[06:55] <nima_> i just can't (donno how) update it
[06:55] <ColonelPanique> kawkawkaw! i be likin' your style mon! socal! hunginton pier!
[06:55] <e_machinist> nima_: wish you would teach me how, haha. BSD is something I would like to run as a desktop some day, haha.
[06:55] <B1zz> how do i find out what sound device i have?
[06:55] <ColonelPanique> nima_: totally like uhh, the wrong channel boiii!
[06:55] <e_machinist> Gotta link to the manual or tut you followed?
[06:55] <IRON_FART> Hey guys im in need of some help w/ using Ubuntu. I have an A64 and I installed the AMD64 version of Ubuntu 5.10. But the problem is that after I login, there will be artifacts on the screen and everything but the cursor will stop.
[06:55] <IRON_FART> Im stumped
[06:56] <nima_> i kno..sorry i am desperate
[06:56] <sethk> nima_, there are three different BSDs, you know
[06:56] <sethk> nima_, four, actually
[06:56] <blackvd> I have a net gear router which I just figured out how to log into with telenet now I need to portforward it so I can solve my NAT error with azureus.I dont know how to obtain a static ip tho?
[06:57] <nima_> BSD 5.2.1
[06:57] <sethk> nima_, no, I meant freebsd, netbsd, openbsd, I forget the fourth at the moment
[06:57] <nima_> freebsd
[06:57] <ReA> jjj
[06:58] <ReA> nvhbnj
[06:58] <sethk> nima_, it's been a while, but what I recall is that you use ports with a target
[06:58] <nekostar> depends on the vid file cafuego but ok i GUESS ill give it a shot
[06:58] <ReA> jh
[06:58] <nekostar> can mod it to do fullscreen all the time or something..
[06:58] <ColonelPanique> sethk : fourth? there's like over half a dozen or more at this point...ye thinking of dragonfly?
[06:58] <e_machinist> Wonder why there isn't a BSD distro that installs all the good ol' xserver and gnome/kde stuff as a default.
[06:58] <sethk> nima_, not much different from what you do with ubuntu, although it is dealing with source
[06:58] <e_machinist> Aside from the fact that BSD is heavily servified.
[06:58] <ColonelPanique> nima_ : make buildworld (boiii) !
[06:58] <sethk> ColonelPanique, no, you are correct, there is another one with the same form, as in openbsd, netbsd, somethingbsd, which I'm forgetting.
[06:59] <sethk> ColonelPanique, I don't claim to know all of them
[06:59] <ColonelPanique> e_machinist : pcbsd does homey...werd!
[06:59] <sethk> ColonelPanique, I just meant to say that just "bsd" isn't enough
[06:59] <ColonelPanique> sethk : i claim to know .09 of them
[06:59] <e_machinist> ColonelPanique: I have heard of that one... never checked it out though.
[06:59] <Corrupter> is there any way to configure the clock on my desktop to use Firefox as my calender instead of Evolution?
[07:00] <nima_> jsut asking, is there a package manager for Freedsb... like synaptic in debain?
[07:00] <imperfectus> Wow
[07:00] <ColonelPanique> e_machinist : it may be worth checking out.  hell all operating systems are! that's how i've come to use over fifty in my lifetime! though tops 20 rules them all mon! ;-)
[07:00] <imperfectus> banshee _sucks_
[07:00] <sethk> nima_, no, the closest linux thing to it is what gentoo uses
[07:00] <crimsun> Banshee's not at the top of my list, but I don't think it "sucks," either.
[07:00] <sethk> nima_, only gentoo's is full of bugs and the bsd one actually works
[07:01] <imperfectus> I dunno the ports tree isn't perfect.
[07:01] <ColonelPanique> nima_ : werd?!
[07:01] <madewokherd> sethk: you mean portage?
[07:01] <crimsun> nothing's perfect except for boogs.
[07:01] <imperfectus> In edition to the fact that most people simply dont have the TIME for emerge
[07:01] <IRON_FART> Does anyone have any clue why Ubuntu would artifact and crash after boot? Happened on 5.04 and 5.10
[07:01] <e_machinist> ColonelPanique: I agree, all OSs are fun to at least check out once.
[07:02] <ColonelPanique> awww mons! dun be proppin' that crappy species of penguin up in this fine channel. sight!
[07:02] <sethk> madewokherd, right
[07:02] <madewokherd> k
[07:02] <ColonelPanique> crimsun : when we get all these bugs ironed out...we'll be running on flat bugs! sight!
[07:02] <spitfire> Hi everyone
[07:02] <Corrupter> is there any way to configure the clock on my desktop to use Firefox as my calender instead of Evolution?
[07:03] <nima_> anyways..thanks you so much guys
[07:03] <cafuego> emerge causes global warming
[07:03] <nima_> thank**
[07:03] <nomasteryoda> IRON_FART, yes... you have hardware issues... i would bank on it esp. if you use the default install
[07:04] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, LOLROTF
[07:04] <e_machinist> Anyone know how large w32codecs is?
[07:04] <nomasteryoda> large enough =D
[07:04] <allison_1984> around 10MBs no ?
[07:05] <sethk> IRON_FART, check your logs, try to get some clues
[07:05] <e_machinist> allison_1984: not sure... find out soon I suppose... stupid proprietary type stuff... argg.
[07:05] <cafuego> nomasteryoda: Well, it does. Needless compiling uses power, which causes greenhouse emissions.
[07:05] <madewokherd> use flags are occasionally useful
[07:05] <imperfectus> emerge is directly responsible for AIDS in Africa
[07:05] <cafuego> USE+=BRAIN
[07:05] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, you are correct
[07:06] <imperfectus> and is linked to staph infections in a group of Alaskan Slackware users.
[07:06] <nomasteryoda> imperfectus, well only a remote possiblity
[07:06] <nomasteryoda> =D
[07:06] <madewokherd> although there's probably some correct way for me to configure/build links2 myself and install it :p
[07:06] <imperfectus> nomasteryoda, : I dunno, I'm having a herpes outbreak from trying to emerge mythtv ;)
[07:06] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[07:07] <nomasteryoda> stress man, stress
[07:07] <IRON_FART> nomasteryoda: What do you mean 'bank' on it?
[07:07] <ColonelPanique> dang! peeps still be frontin' on that crazy baldhead bombaclot Pygoscelis papua penguin...ewww gross mon!
[07:07] <imperfectus> Well, if there's one word I would use to describe emerge besides "FUCKINGBULLSHIT" it'd be stressful.
[07:07] <nomasteryoda> IRON_FART,  2 separate versions of Ubuntu and you still have crashed it on install
[07:07] <IRON_FART> Yup
[07:07] <nomasteryoda> ewww
[07:07] <IRON_FART> No
[07:07] <IRON_FART> Not on install
[07:08] <nomasteryoda> after install
[07:08] <IRON_FART> It gets to login screen fine
[07:08] <IRON_FART> I put my details in etc
[07:08] <IRON_FART> then after username/pass is accepted it crashes
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> oh well, then go to suse
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> =D
[07:09] <IRON_FART> :/
[07:09] <imperfectus> I've got a suse box at home
[07:09] <imperfectus> It's not bad.
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> yup
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> this is one
[07:09] <imperfectus> But ubuntu worked better out fo the box on muh lappy.
[07:09] <dos-assassin> Does anyone know how to install a Lexmark X1185? It isn't on the list of printers to install and I am not sure how to go about it
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> but i have kubuntu and ubuntu on many more
[07:09] <nomasteryoda> Lexmark = EVIL
[07:10] <ColonelPanique> novell plans to cause sterility in the white man with suse, you been warned by the holiness haley selassie i! sight!
[07:10] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[07:10] <nomasteryoda> ColonelPanique, you rock!
[07:10] <nomasteryoda> ok, reggaes
[07:10] <dos-assassin> Yes lol Lexmark is evil but if I don't get this printer installed and start printing out this paper I have a boss who has me on a silver plate in the morning
[07:11] <ColonelPanique> but rock is good, sorta like how elvis was the eminem of the black man's blues (boiii) !
[07:11] <nomasteryoda> si
[07:11] <madewokherd> print it to a pdf and print the pdf somewhere else if you're short on time :p
[07:11] <IRON_FART> But any Ideas on what could possibly causing this?  I don't want to download SUsE and have it do the same thing  if ya know what I mean
[07:11] <sorush20> why is dvd plaback keep on flickering.. on it light ?
[07:12] <IRON_FART> LiveCD has the same problem also
[07:12] <Madpilot> IRON_FART: that's sounding more and more like hardware trouble...
[07:12] <Madpilot> (nice nick, btw...) :P
[07:13] <IRON_FART> :) ty
[07:13] <nook> getting a weird problem with ntfsresize on ubuntu:
[07:13] <e_machinist> Well... that .wmf flaw that has been going around for some time now looks fun... to bad we can't try it out on Linux.
[07:14] <e_machinist> :D
[07:14] <nook> "Extended record needed: (not supported!) try a smaller size"
[07:14] <nook> or something to that effect
[07:14] <madewokherd> there's always wine
[07:14] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : I came in on the last second, what's your issue/
[07:14] <Madpilot> e_machinist: the virus, you mean? Yeah, I miss them too... :P
[07:14] <e_machinist> Wine... yeh, I suppose so. Madpilot heh, yah. Those things were sooo fun back in the day.
[07:15] <e_machinist> System maintenance wasn't an option, it was a duty! Haha.
[07:15] <jtaylor> I was using hoary on a single partition but had a bunch of other partitions mapped as /home using LVM.  I just installed breezy badger on the single partition, but it was not obvious how to get the LVM /home running again without deleting all the data.  Is there an easy way to get LVM to autodetect LVM drives?
[07:15] <IRON_FART> imperfectus: AMD64 versions of Ubuntu 5.04 and 5.10 (including LiveCDs) will artifact and crash after logon
[07:15] <IRON_FART> Cursor is fine though
[07:15] <nook> ah, specifically:
[07:15] <cdubya> e_machinist, was reading arstechnica a little while ago about that....it was funny how the writer pointed out it was "even an issue with XP Service Pack 2". Spose that means they thought SP2 was the "most bulletproof" offering?
[07:15] <cdubya> heh
[07:16] <imperfectus> IRON_FART: even if you init 1?
[07:16] <nook> "Extended record needed (1051 > 1024), not yet supported!"
[07:16] <imperfectus> IRON_FART: Have you tried init 1 after you get login screen to see if you can narrow it down to X/video cArd?
[07:16] <e_machinist> cdubya: yah, MS actually acknowledged that a fully patched XP SP 2 system is vulnerable... Thats gotta SUCK!!!
[07:16] <IRON_FART> IDK what init 1 is sorry. I'm new :|
[07:17] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : Well, tried logging in from a terminal instead of graphically...
[07:17] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : And then seeing what's causing the panic if that's what you're seeing..
[07:17] <cdubya> e_machinist, heh, yeah....I know. :D
[07:17] <cdubya> e_machinist, I love linux.
[07:17] <cdubya> heh
[07:18] <e_machinist> cdubya: true dat
[07:18] <e_machinist> Haha.
[07:18] <Linuturk> I had problems using the x86 live cd with my processor.
[07:18] <Linuturk> (CPU) 1-AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3400+, 797MHz (14% Load)
[07:18] <ColonelPanique> why dees poples always gwan blame mississippi fe all dem damned windows proddlums, mon?!
[07:18] <cdubya> anyone ever get any weird stuff printing from certain apps at all? in particular oowriter2?
[07:18] <imperfectus> Linuturk, : DO they do throttling?
[07:18] <Linuturk> imperfectus, yes
[07:19] <imperfectus> Linuturk, : That's quite pimptastic!
[07:19] <e_machinist> ColonelPanique: heh, cause that is the origin of imbreeding... the only possible explanation for redmond.
[07:19] <Linuturk> imperfectus, gnome wouldn't start
[07:19] <IRON_FART> Ok I can login without the graphical interface no probs, but i've no experience with the terminal
[07:19] <onkarshinde> Anyone having problem with the backport version of totem on breezy?
[07:19] <cdubya> What I mean is stuff in particular like spooling a range of page numbers and then the printer only printer one page and then flashing.....
[07:19] <edlang> I'm trying to a USB install on an IBM X41 laptop. It appears that SYSLINUX is not working correctly as I see no boot: prompt. Instead, it reboots immediately after selecting the USB as the boot device. Has anyone else experienced this problem, and / or know how I could rectify it?
[07:19] <e_machinist> cdubya: not had that problem before... CUPS running ok?
[07:19] <B1zz> i am checking the updates on the ubuntu (the one by the clock) was just wondering if it is wise to update the kernel.  I have done it before but messed everything up what do you guys think?
[07:19] <edlang> s/to a USB/to do a USB/
[07:19] <Linuturk> can you download a version of dapper? and if so, where?
[07:20] <cdubya> e_machinist, like a champ.
[07:20] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : Well, are you sure the machine CRASHES? Does it reboot, or do you just not see anything on the screen cept artifacts?
[07:20] <cdubya> that's what so weird.
[07:20] <e_machinist> Linuturk: after we track down a link for you... perhaps we should make you some coffee... and massage your feet, no?
[07:20] <cdubya> heh. though, it's setup as a samba printer.
[07:20] <cdubya> heh
[07:20] <e_machinist> So you don't have to do anything.
[07:20] <nomasteryoda> that sounds like an xorg driver issue...
[07:20] <e_machinist> haha.
[07:20] <onkarshinde> Anyone having problem with the backport version of totem on breezy?
[07:20] <blackvd> need help getting a static ip?
[07:21] <e_machinist> I don't know why but somba always makes me want to dance.
[07:21] <cdubya> e_machinist, it's a lexmark everyone loves.....
[07:21] <cdubya> heh
[07:21] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : When you get the error can you ctrl-alt-f1 and get a terminal login
[07:21] <IRON_FART> no there is a rectangle or artifacts about 10cm x 0.6cm on the screen just above the center of the screen
[07:21] <e_machinist> samba*
[07:21] <cdubya> but it does print, just dies printing multiple pages often
[07:21] <imperfectus> IRON_FART: and if so can you then login and look at the X logs to see wtf is going on
[07:21] <Linuturk> e_machinist, i figued someone who knew where it was could help, thus saving me the time and energy. Therefore, conserving energy in the universe as a whole, and helping humanity
[07:21] <Linuturk> but I'll go look for it now
[07:21] <IRON_FART> Ok I will reboot to do that now
[07:21] <e_machinist> Is it a bleeding edge lexy, or one that has been out in the woods for some time?
[07:21] <IRON_FART> bbl
[07:21] <cdubya> printer lights flash like crazy and have to hit the paper feed button to get them to stop....but then all is good on the printer
[07:22] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : What if you try chaging the session to Failsafe Gnome?
[07:22] <imperfectus> IRON_FART: Do you have  a sesson icon at the bottom?
[07:22] <e_machinist> Linuturk: 2nd law of thermodynamics goes against your assumption...
[07:22] <cdubya> it's a z22
[07:22] <IRON_FART> You mean when it artifacts?
[07:22] <cdubya> been there for awhile. collecting dust.
[07:22] <cdubya> heh
[07:22] <e_machinist> cdubya: that could be a hardware problem?
[07:22] <madewokherd> Linuturk: I think the normal thing is to just install breezy and update with the dapper repositories
[07:22] <cdubya> e_machinist, you think? prints fine from Win2K?
[07:23] <odat> madewokherd, aren't you happy you just saved energy lol
[07:23] <ColonelPanique> IRON_FART : do you ever actually hit the hunington pier, mon?
[07:23] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : NO, before you login
[07:23] <blackvd> need help getting a static ip?
[07:23] <e_machinist> cdubya: fine in old man winter 2k? Hmm, not hdw then.
[07:23] <Linuturk> madewokherd, see, that's something I don't know how to do
[07:23] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : on the bottom there should be the word Session, if you click it set it to failsafe gnome -- see if that lets you log in
[07:23] <madewokherd> I'm not good with the wiki links
[07:23] <IRON_FART> I will try that now
[07:23] <IRON_FART> brb
[07:24] <odat> Linuturk, open up the synaptic repositories and change everything that says breezy to the word dapper
[07:24] <madewokherd> so I'm going to bed
[07:24] <imperfectus> s/dapper/unstable
[07:24] <imperfectus> hehe
[07:24] <cdubya> heh. I think the Bourne Supremacy is a great flick.
[07:24] <e_machinist> Jason Bourne looks funny though... something wrong with his face...
[07:25] <cdubya> heh
[07:25] <e_machinist> Something so... anti ... "I can kill you with a pen" typeishness.
[07:25] <imperfectus> He's all forhead.
[07:25] <cdubya> heh
[07:25] <cdubya> e_machinist, :)
[07:25] <ColonelPanique> the movie, it was so saddening to me.  he never not once asked someone if they liked them apples!
[07:26] <imperfectus> ColonelPanique, : It would have been poetic had he.
[07:26] <cdubya> I kinda like the parts where he talks to the agent on the phone and tells her about the other agent standing next to her.
[07:26] <cdubya> heh
[07:26] <e_machinist> I'm pretty sure Jackie Chan from 20 years ago could have beat Jason Bourne up.
[07:26] <cdubya> gotta love that kinda call.
[07:26] <imperfectus> It would have been better if one fo the uber-anti-bournes that came to kill him
[07:26] <cdubya> heh
[07:26] <imperfectus> was BEN AFFLECK AS THE BLIND SUPERHERO
[07:26] <blackvd> need help setting up a static IP
[07:26] <cdubya> imperfectus, :)
[07:26] <imperfectus> That woudl have been a fight
[07:26] <cdubya> heh
[07:26] <imperfectus> Like
[07:26] <imperfectus> if the Flash
[07:26] <e_machinist> Setting up a static IP??? Isn't your ISP supposed to help you with that?
[07:27] <imperfectus> could someone get gayer and blind
[07:27] <cdubya> Yeah, Bruce Lee was pretty quick
[07:27] <imperfectus> He'd be ben affleck
[07:27] <imperfectus> But hey, I can't knock Afflect
[07:27] <imperfectus> er Affleck
[07:27] <cdubya> heh
[07:27] <imperfectus> He banged that hawt girl.
[07:27] <imperfectus> Fucker.
[07:27] <ColonelPanique> Bruce Lee would have so totally transformed Jason Bourne into a female during such fighting activities
[07:27] <polpak> uh.. did I accidentally join ubuntu-offtopic?
[07:27] <e_machinist> Aflack... kinda sounds like that insurance company.
[07:27] <imperfectus> Guys like Brad Pitt and Ben affleck fuck up the vagina odds for the rest of us
[07:27] <imperfectus> polpak: Nope, this is #ubuntu-stfu
[07:28] <cdubya> ColonelPanique, pretty much. The dude would have probably bloodied his face before he knew what happened.
[07:28] <imperfectus> Hrm..
[07:28] <e_machinist> I was not even aware there were vagina odds.
[07:28] <blackvd> its for my router I'm trying to port forward
[07:28] <e_machinist> News to me.
[07:28] <cdubya> blackvd, what's the problem?
[07:28] <cdubya> imperfectus, :)
[07:29] <cdubya> heh
[07:29] <imperfectus> Use Ubuntu
[07:29] <imperfectus> Or bruce lee will make you a woman while your family watches.
[07:29] <cdubya> hehehehheheh
[07:29] <x9> How do I dual boot OS X and ubuntu?
[07:29] <e_machinist> Bruce Lee, if living, would undoubtedly have used Ubuntu.
[07:29] <imperfectus> X9: You don't?
[07:30] <x9> Will the installer take care of that?
[07:30] <imperfectus> X9: If you have OS X be happy. ;)
[07:30] <x9> I'm using a LiveCD right now.
[07:30] <IRON_FART> imperfectus: Heres the update. I clicked on the session button, and I saw all the options including Failsafe GNOME, but when I tried to select it, it artifaced there too
[07:30] <imperfectus> X9: It's the best of both worlds.
[07:30] <blackvd> I'm trying to set up a static IP so I can port forward my router
[07:30] <odat> blackvd, http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm
[07:30] <IRON_FART> So I tries Ctrl+Alt+F1, but it has no response
[07:30] <ColonelPanique> his startup sound for Gnome would have been something like:  "hwaaaaaaaaAAHHHHHHHHHHAAAIAIIIII!"
[07:30] <IRON_FART> tried*
[07:30] <blackvd> right been there
[07:30] <cdubya> x9, just make sure OS X is living happily in the first 8 gigs and you're all good.
[07:30] <imperfectus> IRON_FART, : Did you try to ctrl-alt-f1 when that happend to see if the machine was still alive? You could have a bad video card, bad video ram.. any number of things..
[07:30] <e_machinist> imperfectus: I ran only macs with OS X for about 2 years... can't say I was sorry to drop them in favor of Linux again.
[07:30] <blackvd> not sure how to set up a static ip
[07:30] <x9> I only have eight gigs.
[07:30] <cdubya> blackvd, do you have eth0 configured?
[07:31] <cdubya> x9, heh
[07:31] <IRON_FART> Yup I did try it but no go
[07:31] <cdubya> sorry
[07:31] <imperfectus> e_machinist, : I ran linux for 10 years. I love OS X more. ;)
[07:31] <blueandwhiteg3> Hey, I'm using my Mac keyboard with Ubuntu and I just can't get used to having the control key way over there... I use Windows all the time, but this is different. And to top if off, I run OS X on the same machine. Can I map the Mac keyboard's command key to the control key easily?
[07:31] <IRON_FART> My video card works fine for windows
[07:31] <blackvd> uh think so
[07:31] <binarydigit> is it possible for the "sort" command to sort files that have the say "filename[1-10] .txt" in order from filename1.txt ... filename10.txt.  Everytime I run the command I get it with filename10.txt,filename1.txt...filename9.txt
[07:31] <cafuego> x9: Give Ubuntu an *absolute minimum* of 2.5GB
[07:31] <x9> Cool
[07:31] <x9> What bootloader does ubuntu use on the mac?
[07:31] <e_machinist> imperfectus: perhaps growing up in a mac world ruined it all for me.
[07:31] <x9> Also, why is my video so slow?
[07:31] <cafuego> x9: yaboo
[07:31] <cdubya> e_machinist, just came off OS X.3.9 methinks. Now an Ubuntu user.
[07:31] <ColonelPanique> imperfectus : I have run Ubuntu now for five years... sight!
[07:31] <imperfectus> e_machinist, : perhaps.
[07:31] <e_machinist> Grub.
[07:31] <edlang> So, USB installs
[07:31] <blackvd> sorry my first time hooking up a router
[07:31] <cafuego> x9: Eh, yaboot
[07:31] <x9> ok
[07:31] <edlang> No one has done one?
[07:31] <imperfectus> ColonelPanique, : Hrm.. Go you!
[07:31] <ColonelPanique> ;-)
[07:31] <x9> iBook, G3
[07:32] <imperfectus> ColonelPanique, : I didn't know it had been around that long.
[07:32] <imperfectus> ColonelPanique, : I didn't even hear about it until someone mass amiled me 4.10 ISO's
[07:32] <imperfectus> and i was like
[07:32] <cdubya> blackvd, did you setup the configuration for eth0 to use a static IP?
[07:32] <imperfectus> NICE CASE!
[07:32] <blackvd> no,how do I do that?
[07:32] <imperfectus> But hell, I really haven't been paying attention to distros since slackware went from a.out to ELF
[07:32] <polpak> blackvd: system->administration->network
[07:32] <imperfectus> and I jumped ship.
[07:33] <Linuturk> ok, i found a tutorial for my wireless card, but I won't have net access until it's working. Can I download packages (ndiswrapper-utils) and install them from a cd or something similar?
[07:33] <x9> imperfectus, I remember that :)
[07:33] <e_machinist> imperfectus: Ubuntu was called something like... IMPES Linux or something back inthe day.
[07:33] <cafuego> See also the samples in 'man 5 interfaces'.
[07:33] <blackvd> k
[07:33] <Drunken_Irony> CrimsonKing, Here is a small list of bad ISPs: http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/ISPs_that_are_bad_for_BT <-- Your ISP may be on the list.
[07:33] <CrimsonKing> uh, okay.
[07:33] <imperfectus> Man.
[07:33] <imperfectus> Linux has come such a long way.
[07:33] <CrimsonKing> nice of you to take an interest
[07:33] <imperfectus> I've gotta admit it's another world.
[07:33] <x9> Yes it has.
[07:33] <allison_1984> IMPES > IMP...how so cute !
[07:34] <x9> The fact that I can stick a LiveCD in any computer and it autodetects most everything is amazing.
[07:34] <imperfectus> Hell, 10 years ago I was doing LSD and amazing myself that I could get a PPP connection to my ISP
[07:34] <imperfectus> because it took 12 million steps
[07:34] <e_machinist> Yah, I remember installing redhat no my 486 back in like... 96-98... such a different world now.
[07:34] <imperfectus> buggy chat + pppd
[07:34] <x9> lol
[07:34] <x9> Yeah
[07:34] <imperfectus> My PC wouldn't run 95
[07:34] <cafuego> Well, redhat was always quite crap.
[07:34] <IRON_FART> CrimsonKing: Does your name come from the Demons and Wizards album?
[07:34] <imperfectus> I had no choice but to use leenooks.
[07:34] <cafuego> No wonder you thought Linux sucked ;-)
[07:34] <ColonelPanique> yeah no doubt...from the days of cool console fonts, but complete instability offered by kernel 0.94 and Slackware 1.0 to ... well, to a pretty dang nice os for serving up my porn collection
[07:34] <imperfectus> I was a redhet hater for the longest time
[07:34] <CrimsonKing> IRON_FART: haha, no, but i get asked that every now and then
[07:34] <e_machinist> cafuego: yah it was... I used Debian for about a month back in 1999... text only.
[07:34] <imperfectus> It took mef orever to get on the package management bandwagon
[07:35] <IRON_FART> :)
[07:35] <imperfectus> I hated not knowing where everything was, and what was installed
[07:35] <e_machinist> The xserver hated my old Voodoo Banshee.
[07:35] <Badm4n> [question]  : i have 1 box and 1 account login ftp ... how to make my box automatically update content on my box's public_html to my website ?
[07:35] <imperfectus> I still don't like it
[07:35] <cafuego> e_machinist: And with good reason.
[07:35] <blackvd> polpak,then what?
[07:35] <Linuturk> ok, i found a tutorial for my wireless card, but I won't have net access until it's working. Can I download packages (ndiswrapper-utils) and install them from a cd or something similar?
[07:35] <imperfectus> Ian lives about 20 minutes from me.
[07:35] <imperfectus> His wife's name is Deb.
[07:35] <imperfectus> Good times.
[07:35] <e_machinist> You don't stock them?
[07:35] <e_machinist> Right?
[07:35] <e_machinist> stalk*
[07:35] <imperfectus> Ian from Debian actually spoke at our inlug meeting once
[07:36] <blackvd> configure interface?
[07:36] <polpak> blackvd: click on your network card, click properties, type in the ip you want to use
[07:36] <cdubya> blackvd, ethernet connection > properties
[07:36] <dos-assassin> I have a TAR.gz formatted file and I need some help on how to install it
[07:36] <CrimsonKing> anyways, if apt-get source a package, where do I modify the parameters passed to --configure? /debian/rules?
[07:36] <ColonelPanique> wow mon! reminds me of the time i forgot how to sit down! was that ever an interesting day mon!
[07:36] <blackvd> TCP/IP click manual then pick one?
[07:36] <cdubya> blackvd, enable this connection, configuration: static IP -- give it the IP you want to use
[07:36] <binarydigit> is it possible for the "sort" command to sort files that have the say "filename[1-10] .txt" in order from filename1.txt ... filename10.txt.  Everytime I run the command I get it with filename10.txt,filename1.txt...filename9.txt
[07:37] <imperfectus> Welp.
[07:37] <imperfectus> I'm going to bed.
[07:37] <imperfectus> Night guys.
[07:37] <CrimsonKing> night
[07:37] <cdubya> blackvd, the subnet mask will prolly be 255.255.255.0, the gateway is your router's IP.
[07:38] <Linuturk> can i download a package for ubuntu in windows, to use when I'm in ubuntu without wireless?
[07:39] <Hoxzer> Linuturk: yeah, ofcourse just do "dpkg -i "package.deb"
[07:39] <pixelfairy> dependancies....
[07:40] <IRON_FART> wow
[07:40] <pixelfairy> port apt to windows?(possibly with a userspace ext2) run in qemu/vmware, then transfer the the package cache?
[07:40] <IRON_FART> Im kicking myself ATM
[07:40] <Linuturk> well, i need ndiswrapper-utils
[07:41] <Linuturk> that's the only package
[07:41] <Linuturk> and it has no dependicies
[07:41] <pixelfairy> why didnt i see that comming...
[07:41] <pixelfairy> have a friend comming over tomorrow with the same problem
[07:41] <Linuturk> I'm going to shrink my ntfs and then pull the package from my windows partition
[07:41] <IRON_FART> Video card BIOS flash is making my PC not work with some Linux distros apparently :|
[07:43] <e_machinist> Oh hey... I ran hdparm... says my cdrw and dvd drives are not using dma... but hdparm -i says the two drives are running under udma2 mode... is something weird goin' on here?
[07:46] <QMario> How do I manually set a computer using Ubuntu to a static IP Address?
[07:46] <pixelfairy> QMario: what do you mean manually?
[07:46] <pixelfairy> ifconfig?
[07:46] <cdubya> System > Administration > Networking
[07:46] <QMario> Pixelfairy, I meant terminal commands.
[07:46] <pixelfairy> QMario: ifconfig eth0 1.2.3.4
[07:46] <QMario> No KDE or GNOME on this system.
[07:47] <QMario> Okay, thank you!!! :)
[07:47] <pixelfairy> eth0 might not be the one you want
[07:47] <pixelfairy> ifconfig -a to see them all
[07:49] <sagarp> how can i use diff to compare two directories
[07:49] <pixelfairy> sagarp: man diff (-r)
[07:50] <onkarshinde> Which Free codec is better for DVD backup, XviD or Theora?
[07:50] <ZiX_> I think XviD
[07:51] <odat> xvid
[07:51] <onkarshinde> And is Theora MPEG-4 compliant?
[07:51] <allison_1984> each time I try to install a new application I get this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/489824, can anyone look and tell me if I should disable these sources ?
[07:52] <onkarshinde> allison_1984: please pate your sources.list in pastebin
[07:52] <allison_1984> onkarshinde: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/489830
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> allison_1984: That error can occur if you've added the repositories, but not actually loaded the index for it.
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> allison_1984: For me, at least.  Hitting 'reload' in synaptic fixes it.
[07:54] <onkarshinde> allison_1984: Have you done 'sudo apt-get update' recently?
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> allison_1984: Or what onkarshinde said.
[07:54] <allison_1984> onkarshinde: yes, quite a few times in fact
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[07:54] <pixelfairy> ubuntu doesnt put that in crontab?
[07:55] <allison_1984> but mostly in x terminal...not with synaptics
[07:55] <pixelfairy> same thing
[07:57] <onkarshinde> allison_1984: It seems that security.ubuntu.com is redirecting to archive.ubuntu.com. May be Synaptic is not understanding redirection. Try changing security to archive.
[07:58] <x9> How do you change the background on the splash screen?
[07:58] <x9> I want to change the default brown.
[07:58] <allison_1984> onkarshinde: how should I do this ?
[07:58] <pixelfairy> x9 do you have art-manager?
[07:59] <pixelfairy> its not in by default
[07:59] <x9> no, installing.
[07:59] <onkarshinde> allison_1984: I mean change security.ubuntu.com in sources.list to archive.ubuntu.com with 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:00] <allison_1984> onkarshinde: alright
[08:00] <allison_1984> PumperNickle: thanks your advice worked....
[08:00] <x9> hmm
[08:00] <x9> pixelfairy, Not in synaptic.
[08:00] <Badm4n> [question]  : i have 1 box and 1 account login ftp ... how to make my box automatically update content on my box's public_html to my website ?
[08:00] <allison_1984> onkarshinde: thanks
[08:01] <pixelfairy> i dont remember how i got it, but apt-get install art-manager works
[08:01] <edlang> seriously, this is snanfu
[08:01] <edlang> it's boot cycling on my usb key
[08:01] <onkarshinde> allison_1984: did it work
[08:01] <edlang> nothing on it, it's freshly syslinux'd
[08:01] <pixelfairy> i dont remember what repository its in
[08:01] <CrimsonKing> has anyone here built php with mysqli from an apt-get source? (using the mysql-4.1 deb)
[08:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> allison_1984: Me? O_o
[08:01] <x9> package not found.
[08:01] <allison_1984> onkarshinde: yes, the reload in synaptics.....and then update in x terminal...no errors now
[08:01] <pixelfairy> it was called something like that
[08:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odd
[08:02] <pixelfairy> im on slackware right now
[08:02] <allison_1984> I will now try to install something.... :)
[08:13] <coz> hello all
[08:13] <coz> does anyone here use, or have used the appp 'Fyre" ?
[08:14] <site> hello
[08:14] <site> anyone here?
[08:14] <polpak> yes
[08:14] <site> im on ubuntu, and i wanna install ati drivers
[08:14] <site> but i dont know how to
[08:14] <coz> yes we are here
[08:15] <site> ok :)
[08:15] <sproingie> !ati
[08:15] <ubotu> [ati]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:15] <site> ill have a look
[08:15] <polpak> file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[08:15] <polpak> whoop
[08:15] <polpak> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[08:15] <coz> anyone here use,/used the app fyre
[08:17] <morphix> how would i go about installing ubuntu onto a usb hdd?
[08:18] <coz> morphix I assume  your motherboard support booting from usb?
[08:19] <blueandwhiteg3> What is the issue with ubuntu and gcc? I keep getting "C compiler cannot create executables" when I try to run ./configure before building something....
[08:19] <blueandwhiteg3> I already apt-get'd gcc
[08:19] <La_PaRCa> blueandwhiteg3, install build-essential
[08:19] <x9> I know how to change the splashscreen image, but how do I change the brown that goes around it?
[08:20] <blueandwhiteg3> La_PaRCa: installing, thank you..
[08:20] <CaptainMorgan> why won't totem play .mov ?
[08:20] <CaptainMorgan> !.mov
[08:20] <ubotu> Wish i knew, CaptainMorgan
[08:20] <blueandwhiteg3> La_PaRCa: works, perfet
[08:21] <blueandwhiteg3> (nothing like a 1 MB/sec connection to install quickly)
[08:21] <La_PaRCa> ubotu tell CaptainMorgan about RestrictedFormats
[08:23] <site> how can i see how many disk capacity i have?
[08:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CaptainMorgan: I've resorted to using VLC to watch .mov files.
[08:23] <La_PaRCa> site: Um, use the system monitor
[08:23] <CaptainMorgan> vlc ?
[08:23] <CaptainMorgan> in synaptic ?
[08:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CaptainMorgan: yes
[08:24] <site> system monitor? where can i find that?
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> I can play everything else Ive tried... .wmv, mpg.. etc, but .mov.. arg
[08:24] <FlannelKing> site, Applications > System Tools > System Monitor
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> but *not .mov ...arg
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CaptainMorgan: I know - it's a PITA, especially since sites like www.apple.com/trailers use .mov :S
[08:25] <site> ok found it.
[08:25] <site> hm, 214 GB left
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> pita ?
[08:25] <site> i got 251 GB
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pain in the ass
[08:25] <La_PaRCa> CaptainMorgan, what codec package do you have?
[08:25] <site> is ubuntu using so much disk space?
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> nevermind.. pain in the ass.
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[08:26] <CaptainMorgan> w32 blah blah.. from that site laparc
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :D
[08:26] <merly-> SO FRUSTRATED. older computer hangs on installation at the point where it loads nic modules. says "error reading from cd"
[08:26] <La_PaRCa> For whatever its worth, I cant get my embedded firefox totem player to play wmv files
[08:26] <merly-> tried with two different copies
[08:27] <CaptainMorgan> La_PaRCa, hm... w32 codecs... and/or the gstreamer should do the trick...
[08:27] <site> echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[08:27] <site> sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[08:27] <site> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
[08:27] <site> sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:27] <CaptainMorgan> works on mine
[08:27] <site> need to copy this in terminal?
[08:27] <La_PaRCa> CaptainMorgan, its just _some_ streams...
[08:27] <polpak> site:  yes, and please don't paste in here.. Use pastebin
[08:27] <site> ok
[08:28] <CaptainMorgan> La_PaRCa,  huh?
[08:28] <Beleys> Re
[08:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> La_PaRCa: the latest WMV format and encrypted WMV don't work, so far as I know
[08:29] <La_PaRCa> CaptainMorgan, try this stream please
[08:29] <La_PaRCa> http://www.hedonistica.com/archives/2006/01/conan_obrien_20.php
[08:30] <CaptainMorgan> shit, my bad.. I can't play .wmv's either... argh..
[08:30] <site> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[08:30] <site> ive done this
[08:30] <site> but nothing really happened
[08:30] <site> i need root terminal or terminal?
[08:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> La_PaRCa: works for me... a bit choppy, but I do get vid/audio
[08:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> totem-xine with the w32 codecs
[08:31] <La_PaRCa> PuMpErNiCkLe, same setup here... used to be able to do it
[08:31] <La_PaRCa> not anymore
[08:31] <La_PaRCa> ://
[08:31] <polpak> site: did you restart?
[08:31] <site> nope
[08:31] <polpak> site: you need to restart
[08:31] <site> ok
[08:31] <CaptainMorgan> sorry... but vlc seems like a pos and it's also not playing my .mov
[08:32] <La_PaRCa> oh! I see what it is... the totem plugin is not installed.
[08:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CaptainMorgan: It is a POS, and I only use it for .mov files ^_^
[08:32] <La_PaRCa> What package is that plugin in?
[08:32] <CaptainMorgan> PuMpErNiCkLe, am I missing something? because it can't play them..
[08:34] <e_machinist> How do I upgrade firefox to the newest release using breezy?
[08:34] <CaptainMorgan> scratch that.. it appears to be 'playing' them.. yet there's no audio/video
[08:34] <CaptainMorgan> I mean, the bar at the bottom is moving.. so it appears to be reading something
[08:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CaptainMorgan: o_O
[08:34] <CaptainMorgan> yet I see and hear nothing
[08:34] <CaptainMorgan> :-0
[08:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odd
[08:34] <CaptainMorgan> asdfasdffuckajv($Qq
[08:35] <CaptainMorgan> gawd.. this is a major setback with linux..
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> I have training vids to watch, which will do no good in Win enviromennt
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> :/
[08:36] <polpak> CaptainMorgan: not being able to play .mov files?
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> aye
[08:36] <polpak> CaptainMorgan: tell apple to unrestrict their format
[08:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol
[08:36] <polpak> CaptainMorgan: nothin can be done otherwise
[08:36] <CaptainMorgan> they suck
[08:37] <e_machinist> Why web browsers do everyone prefer?
[08:37] <CaptainMorgan> why? no sure..
[08:37] <e_machinist> Any users of Epiphany or Galeon?
[08:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> e_machinist: Nope... FireFox/Opera only.
[08:38] <polpak> e_machinist: most people who don't use IE use firefox
[08:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (for me, at least)
[08:38] <e_machinist> Epiphany is under debate for Dapper so I here.
[08:38] <site> ok, how can i see the ati drivers are installed?
[08:39] <polpak> site: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[08:39] <e_machinist> I'm not very happy with FF/Opera right now... not sure why.
[08:39] <e_machinist> Just am not.
[08:39] <site> glxinfo | grep -i direct
[08:39] <site> direct rendering: Yes
[08:40] <polpak> site: then it's working
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> how can you not be happy with ff or opera?
[08:40] <site> ok cool
[08:40] <blueandwhiteg3> Thanks to the wonders of Freetype and patented technology, I have dramatically improved my fonts under Ubuntu!
[08:40] <polpak> site: happy gaming =)
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> anything is better than ie
[08:40] <blueandwhiteg3> http://www.freetype.org/
[08:40] <site> :) im gonna use still windows
[08:40] <site> but in linux
[08:40] <polpak> site: sucker
[08:40] <site> with vmware
[08:40] <site> haha
[08:40] <CaptainMorgan> Im not very impressed with konq
[08:40] <e_machinist> CaptainMorgan: never been a fan of FF, and now Opera is starting to feel old... Gonna give Epiphany a go.
[08:40] <e_machinist> Maybe it will make me feel new inside... or somethin'.
[08:40] <Madpilot> e_machinist: Epiph has some cool features; I'm still an Opera loyalist, though
[08:40] <site> polpak, i want to use winrar now
[08:41] <site> but i dont know how to install it
[08:41] <site> i downloaded rarlinux
[08:41] <e_machinist> Madpilot: yah, I'm on opera die hard so far... Thinking of jumping ship to Epiphany though... Watch out.. I'm a potential trader.
[08:41] <polpak> site: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2513073
[08:41] <e_machinist> traitor*
[08:41] <No1Viking> I have direct rendering: No in glxinfo, how do I change that?
[08:42] <polpak> No1Viking: what is your video card?
[08:42] <merly-> is there a reason why my older comp always stops when it's copying the nic modules and says "failed to read data from cd?" if i know the cd is good?
[08:42] <La_PaRCa> site: apt-get install unrar
[08:42] <No1Viking> polpak, ATI 9800 Pro
[08:42] <La_PaRCa> site, if that fails, apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[08:42] <merly-> or, is there a fix?
[08:42] <polpak> No1Viking: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[08:42] <Madpilot> e_machinist: if Epiph gets a bit more mature, I might consider switching myself; FF has always felt feature-free to me - lacking too many basics by default...
[08:42] <e_machinist> No1Viking: that isn't good. You change your xorg.conf so that you have the correct driver or module referenced?
[08:42] <nik__> What is the best windows emulator for ubuntu?
[08:43] <rowanjl> Hey, I'm having trouble getting wine to run correctly. I suspect that its trying to use a global config file (which doesn't exist) instead of trying to use ~/.wine/config.
[08:43] <michael> I'm having troubles, I just did a bunch of changes to my system and tried to restart. Now I have an error saying that My session only lasted less than 10 seconds and logs back out. The only way I can log in is by using the failsafe terminal.
[08:43] <rowanjl> Does anyone here know how to tell wine what config file to use?
[08:43] <polpak> rowanjl: are you using the ubuntu repo for wine, or the winehq one?
[08:43] <e_machinist> Madpilot: that is one of the very reasons I have never adopted firefox willingly like others have.
[08:43] <rowanjl> polpak, the repo
[08:43] <logan001101> guys, something wrong with my web browser
[08:43] <e_machinist> Opera at least has some useful features built straight away into it.
[08:43] <site> hm, can i change my default language? im using my own langauge dutch now, but i want to change it to english
[08:43] <polpak> rowanjl: winehq is a repo also
[08:43] <logan001101> my firefox cant display text
[08:44] <nik__> What is the best windows emulator for ubuntu?
[08:44] <michael> Is their any way to do a recovery install - w/o losing all my settings?
[08:44] <No1Viking> e_machinist, I have ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9800 Pro and the "fglrx" driver
[08:44] <La_PaRCa> nik__, wine
[08:44] <polpak> michael: don't delete your home partition
[08:44] <nik__> ty
[08:44] <No1Viking> e_machinist, already installed
[08:44] <polpak> La_PaRCa: wine : Wine Is Not An Emulator
[08:44] <nik__> what is it
[08:45] <michael> what's the best way to repair?
[08:45] <La_PaRCa> nik__, wine is an api tranlsation layer
[08:45] <e_machinist> No1Viking: did you reboot your machine?
[08:45] <rowanjl> polpak, its from the Binary Universe repo, I've not added any others
[08:45] <La_PaRCa> "Not an Emulator"
[08:45] <michael> it has something to do with Ice_**
[08:45] <nik__> is it a good solution for playing games?
[08:45] <No1Viking> e_machinist, Yes, yesterday
[08:45] <e_machinist> Wine is an Open Source API implementation of the Windows closed APIs
[08:46] <polpak> No1Viking: did you change your xorg.conf and modprobe the fglrx driver?
[08:46] <logan001101> I try to install the driver for the ATI 9700 card then my web browser CAN NOT display any text :(
[08:46] <e_machinist> Did you add the fglrx module to ... uhh... what is that directory?...
[08:46] <No1Viking> polpak, yes, I did
[08:46] <La_PaRCa> nik__, yes it is, although for games you should look into cedega, even if its a little more of a chore to set up.
[08:46] <polpak> No1Viking: can you pastebin your xorg.conf as well as the output from lsmod ?
[08:47] <e_machinist> No1Viking: you using the actual FGLRX drivers, or the ATI ones?
[08:47] <polpak> nik__: there are also a few games that can run natively under linux
[08:47] <nik__> but there are so few polpak....
[08:47] <michael> does ne1 know what is the best way for a noob to do a repair on his installation?
[08:47] <polpak> nik__: quake 4 for example, vendetta online, etc
[08:47] <e_machinist> polpak: emphasis on "few"... haha.
[08:47] <Niju> Guys can u please help me in installing an internal modem?
[08:48] <nik__> quake 4 runs under linux? impressive :)
[08:48] <polpak> e_machinist: how many games do you really need? =p
[08:48] <e_machinist> I would rather run a non gaming environment than suffer windows.
[08:48] <site> Breezy Badger, i dont see it
[08:48] <e_machinist> Niju, what is your prob?
[08:48] <site> only hoary hadgehog
[08:48] <Niju> i have a pctel internal modem running in ubuntu i'd like to install
[08:48] <Niju> how to do it?
[08:49] <merly-> e_machinist - do you have an e_machine by chance?
[08:49] <rowanjl> polpak, er, did you have any ideas?
[08:49] <Niju> i also could not find a driver for it
[08:49] <e_machinist> polpak:  I personally play like... two open source games... thats it. haha.
[08:49] <rowanjl> e_machinist, what games?
[08:49] <e_machinist> merly: nope, custom brewed system! I just like the word e_machinist... and am jealous that they got it before I did.
[08:50] <polpak> rowanjl: I usually just install the winehq repo, sudo apt-get install wine winetools, then run winetools to download all the required MS libs etc
[08:50] <e_machinist> rowanjl: Scorched 3D and Frozen Bubble mostly. haha. Some GLTron here and there.
[08:50] <[nige] > anyone have any experience configuring dansguardian?
[08:50] <merly-> e_machinist - buy you can still help me with my wife's nasty e-machine cd drive tho, right?
[08:50] <rowanjl> hmm
[08:50] <rowanjl> polpak, I'll try that thanks
[08:50] <polpak> rowanjl: I play wesnoth, vendetta online, and qgo
[08:50] <Niju> hello
[08:50] <Niju> any 1?
[08:51] <polpak> rowanjl: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[08:51] <polpak> Niju: sorry, no experience with internal modems for many years
[08:51] <aftertaf> Niju:  tried googling for "wintel modem linux" ?
[08:51] <Niju> its ok
[08:51] <La_PaRCa> Quake cant hold a candle to Frozen Bubble
[08:51] <aftertaf> otherwise me neither ... :/
[08:51] <Niju> oh thanx
[08:52] <aftertaf> armagetron advanced
[08:52] <aftertaf> :] 
[08:52] <ilba7r> will the default sound server in dapper be alsa or esd?
[08:52] <polpak> aftertaf: solar wolf ftw!
[08:52] <No1Viking> polpak and e_machinist, look here ---> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6583
[08:52] <aftertaf> what's that polpak  ?
[08:53] <Niju> any cd burning softwares for ubuntu?
[08:53] <aftertaf> polpak:  apting now don't become mad, it says :] 
[08:53] <site> polpak, i download vmware
[08:53] <ilba7r> k3b niju
[08:53] <[nige] > Niju, just do an apt-get install k3b
[08:53] <site> how can i install it?
[08:53] <aftertaf> Niju:  yes loads..... k3b my fave
[08:53] <kevix> ilba7r: alsa will always be the standard
[08:53] <e_machinist> man... Epiphany sure doesn't have many "Options"...
[08:54] <polpak> site: I dunno. I don't use windows
[08:54] <site> well
[08:54] <site> how do u install a program?
[08:54] <ilba7r> kevix esd is the default now > i know cause of gnome. but was wondering if alsa will be default
[08:54] <site> extension of installer is .sh
[08:54] <aftertaf> site:  then you type sh then the name.sh
[08:54] <polpak> site: chmod +x file && ./file
[08:54] <odat> hi everyone
[08:54] <aftertaf> hi odat :)
[08:55] <site> ok
[08:55] <odat> i have about had it with azureus   sheesh i have never been able to get good speeds with any bittorrent regarding program or os
[08:56] <Niju> how do i install k3b in ubuntu?
[08:56] <aftertaf> using g3torrent, but it segs sometimes.
[08:56] <e_machinist> Good gracious... Epiphany is killer fast though.
[08:56] <aftertaf> Niju:  sudo apt-get install k3b
[08:56] <ilba7r> niju sudo apt-get install k3b
[08:56] <kevix> Niju: for more options try 'apt-cache search cd burn'
[08:56] <ilba7r> i prefer sudo aptitude install k3b though
[08:56] <site> unknown map
[08:56] <aftertaf> Niju:  or open synaptic and choose it.  also grab the mp3 burning package next to it
[08:56] <site> polpak
[08:56] <odat> Niju, get familiar with synaptic
[08:56] <aftertaf> !vmware
[08:56] <site> unknown map or file
[08:57] <odat> i don't know why everyone thinks k3b is so great
[08:57] <e_machinist> No1Viking: did you run "echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules" to add the fglrx module to the modules directory?
[08:57] <aftertaf> site:  try #vmware
[08:57] <e_machinist> Well.. guess he won't see that then.
[08:57] <e_machinist> heh.
[08:57] <aftertaf> !tell site about vmware
[08:57] <Niju> but it says it's in repostries
[08:57] <Kr0ntab> sup folks....
[08:58] <ilba7r> !repositories
[08:58] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[08:58] <aftertaf> Niju:  do that ^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:58] <ilba7r> niju see ubotu link to add extra repos
[08:58] <aftertaf> Niju:  then try again ;)
[08:58] <Niju> oh thank u
[08:58] <michael> here is my problem -> http://geocities.com/mtecknology/errors.html
[08:58] <site> ok thanx
[08:58] <site> but how do i see what my kernelversion is?
[08:59] <aftertaf> site:  never installed it in linux so cannot help at all otherwise ;)
[08:59] <La_PaRCa> site, uname -k
[08:59] <rowanjl> thanks again polpak
[08:59] <ilba7r> aftertaf just wondering what ^^^^^ realy do?
[08:59] <site> uname -k
[08:59] <site> ?
[09:00] <tkup> site, uname -r
[09:00] <site> ah i see :)
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan> argh...
[09:00] <site> 2.6.10-5-386
[09:01] <site> thats newest?
[09:01] <tkup> site, mine shows a newer version.
[09:01] <site> ok, i will update that later
[09:01] <site> how can i change a directory in the terminal?
[09:02] <site> cd?
[09:02] <ilba7r> site cd
[09:02] <kevix> cd = change directory
[09:02] <ilba7r> site look at this site for basic command line tips http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[09:02] <site> cd /vmware-distrib/installer/
[09:02] <kevix> cd .. = move to lower directory
[09:02] <kevix> cd XXX = move to directory XXX
[09:02] <site> i did this, but it says unkown directory or file
[09:03] <site> thanx ilba7r
[09:03] <ilba7r> site ls will tell you what is in your tree
[09:03] <Madpilot> !cli
[09:03] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[09:03] <ilba7r> :)
[09:04] <wizardjames> how do i get synaptic to find mysql 5, were would i get a repostory that would have that..
[09:04] <site> i cant install vmware
[09:05] <site> i cant change to the map where its located
[09:05] <michael> am i at a point where this chat can't help me? - or are ya'll to busy?
[09:05] <Niju> how to compile c and c++ source codes?
[09:05] <ilba7r> site where did you download it do you know. if you used fire fox try cd Desktop
[09:05] <Madpilot> wizardjames: I don't think MySQL5 is in the repos yet
[09:05] <ilba7r> than type ls
[09:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: I was gone... what's your question?
[09:06] <wizardjames> its not Madpilot , i was asking were i would find repos that have it.
[09:06] <site> ilba7r, yep, but ls doesnt do anyting
[09:06] <michael> Having these errors when I log into ne session other than failsafe terminal - http://geocities.com/mtecknology/errors.html
[09:06] <Madpilot> wizardjames: install from source is probably the best way
[09:06] <ilba7r> site it is small L then s so "ls"
[09:06] <wizardjames> Niju,    apt-get install build-essential
[09:07] <site> yep i did that
[09:07] <wizardjames> Madpilot,  if i knew how to..i would.  but i am not that very good at that.
[09:07] <site> nothing happens
[09:07] <Madpilot> wizardjames: I'm not either :P
[09:07] <Madpilot> !compile
[09:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[09:07] <ilba7r> site you have to know where you downloaded it
[09:07] <wizardjames> well that just sucks.
[09:07] <ilba7r> try cd ~
[09:07] <apostolis> When I go to System (from KDE 3.5 menu) it says
[09:08] <ilba7r> then ls .*
[09:08] <site> yes in my personal map ilba7r
[09:08] <apostolis> Retrieving data from system is not supported any ideas?
[09:08] <La_PaRCa> michael, do you have enough space in your root partition?
[09:08] <michael> how do i check?
[09:08] <ilba7r> site this will list everything in your home directory so you have a lot of scrolling
[09:08] <ilba7r> site what is the package name?
[09:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: applications -> system tools -> system monitor -> "Devices" tab
[09:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> If it's full, chances are you don't have enough :)
[09:09] <site> no, i unrarred it
[09:09] <site> and i dont know where it put the file
[09:09] <La_PaRCa> michael, df
[09:09] <michael> i can't access the menus, - i'm stuck trying to open a new terminal window via web browser right now
[09:10] <ilba7r> site what is the file name?
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> oh, right
[09:10] <ilba7r> site or at least part of the file name?
[09:10] <site> the installer files name is services.sh
[09:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> then what La_PaRCa said
[09:10] <site> file*
[09:10] <ilba7r> ok site cd ~ than type ls *.* | grep services.sh
[09:10] <michael> the command df will work?
[09:11] <ilba7r> site this will tell you where it is located on your home directory
[09:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> it will show the disk stats
[09:11] <La_PaRCa> michael, if you open a terminal, it will
[09:12] <site> ez heeft verlaten (Remote closed the connection)
[09:12] <apostolis> Anyone knows what the error "REtrieving data from system not supported" means in KDE?
[09:12] <site> cd ls *.* | grep services.sh
[09:12] <site> that is the command ilba7r ?
[09:13] <ilba7r> site no do not type cd if you are not sure of the name you can use wild cards as in ls *.* | grep serv*
[09:13] <michael> /dev/hda1 1K block:56712188, Used:278352, Available:485529889, Used 10%
[09:14] <ilba7r> site but before that you need to be in your root directory so type "cd ~" without the quotation marks
[09:14] <La_PaRCa> What package contains the non-free ati drivers?
[09:14] <site> ok from root:
[09:15] <site> ls *.* | grep services.sh
[09:15] <Amaranth> xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:15] <site> and nothing happened
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> What will give me a nice printout along the lines of <device> <size> <used> <free> on the command line?
[09:15] <ilba7r> site type cd ~
[09:15] <La_PaRCa> Amaranth, how do I know if 3d accel is enabled?
[09:15] <site> i did ilba7r '
[09:15] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: du -h, iirc
[09:15] <ilba7r> site before you use the command
[09:15] <site> i did
[09:15] <ilba7r> site than i do not know where it is sure it is not in your home directory
[09:16] <michael> I'll list the other 3 if you want
[09:16] <apostolis> what is the best way to adjust some broken dependencies?
[09:16] <apostolis> Will synaptic do the job?
[09:16] <aftertaf> tonyyarusso:  or df -h for disk usage and space
[09:16] <aftertaf> apostolis:  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: If they all have extra space the way that one did, it shouldn't be an issue.
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> aftertaf, That's the one.
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, Close.  That's what I had tried actually.
[09:17] <aftertaf> df disk free :] 
[09:17] <michael> k, they had 0% and 11%, then 86/volatile had nothing after it
[09:17] <Amaranth> aftertaf: I hate shortened names. :P
[09:17] <aftertaf> hehe
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> aftertaf, I'll start remembering these things eventually, really.
[09:18] <aftertaf> lol
[09:18] <aftertaf> it sticks in the end...
[09:18] <aftertaf> wb Hobbsee :] 
[09:18] <Hobbsee> ty aftertaf :)
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.linux-community.de/Neues/story%3Fstoryid%3D18229&prev=/search%3Fq%3DERROR:%2BCannot%2Bcreate%2B/dev/X%2B_IceTransPTSOpenServer%26hl%3Den%26hs%3DbF3%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[09:19] <SaetheR> has anyone had trouble with multiple md5sum mismatches when trying to install apps?
[09:19] <SaetheR> I've google'd it and not had much luck
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: wait, that won't work
[09:20] <site> ilba7r, ok i didnt know where it went but i put it on the desktop now :)
[09:20] <thux> Hi, this didn't work for me |http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450 | do I also have have some lines in /etc/network/interfaces about wpa-psk ?
[09:20] <aftertaf> site use the 'locate' command :)
[09:21] <ilba7r> site great at lease now you know where the new one is :)
[09:21] <SaetheR> hmm my x-chat crashed. Anyone have any issues with MD5SUM ?
[09:21] <ARIESA> gdshdaghasgjhfgklf
[09:21] <ARIESA> bdshfgdgfjdhf
[09:22] <Amaranth> SaetheR: what mirror?
[09:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: google 'ERROR: Cannot create /dev/X _IceTransPTSOpenServer' and pick the third one down
[09:22] <SaetheR> us.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It looks kinda like your problem.
[09:22] <site> yes ilba7r
[09:22] <site> but how do i install it now?
[09:23] <SaetheR> I keep trying to install and update basic packages through the Synaptic Package manager
[09:23] <michael> the linux-community one?
[09:23] <site> im trying to get into the dir with terminal but it says it doesnt exist
[09:23] <ilba7r> site i have no experience with vmware and as such no idea. check the forums at www.ubontuforums.org
[09:23] <SillyZ> mornin, anyone suggest a firewall package for ubuntu?, preffer something w/ a gui to it
[09:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yes
[09:23] <site> ilba7r, its just a .sh file
[09:23] <Myrtti> firestarter
[09:23] <michael> it's not english
[09:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You'll probably want the translated version :)
[09:24] <ilba7r> site are you sure you downloaded the files
[09:24] <SillyZ> firestarter Myrtti ? hmm ok ill take a look at it
[09:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> beside the link there should be a 'translate this page' link
[09:24] <site> yes ilba7r
[09:24] <site> i can see them
[09:24] <ilba7r> mmm if it is in desktop than you need to type cd Desktop, notice the capital D
[09:24] <site> yes im in desktop
[09:24] <site> and then what?
[09:25] <michael> never noticed google has a translate function - cool
[09:25] <`123> is there any alternative for gamin? i cannot unmount a drive due to gam_server and whenever i try and kill it it immediately starts back up.
[09:25] <ilba7r> sh <filename>.sh
[09:25] <ilba7r> site just check if you need to be super user to install it. my advise is read carefully how to install it before running the shell script
[09:26] <site> ilba7r, , it says the dir doesnt exist
[09:26] <michael> sorry, but that solution confuses me, and idk how to edit from command line - what prog should i use?
[09:26] <SillyZ> Myrtti, any other 'must have's' that you know of ??
[09:26] <site> or filename
[09:26] <site> but it does
[09:26] <site> and its on my desktop :S
[09:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: nano, probably
[09:27] <Myrtti> most of them are already installed, SillyZ
[09:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: It confuses me, too, but it looked like a place to start o_O
[09:27] <michael> k, i'll go for it
[09:27] <SillyZ> I was a KDE guy til I got my hands on ubuntu.... now Im hooked on gnome :)
[09:28] <Myrtti> I'd recommend gdesklets, if it were stable on my computer
[09:28] <Myrtti> but it's not
[09:28] <ilba7r> site wish you luck and sorry got to go now take care
[09:29] <pramz> *cry* no libapache2-mod-mono :(
[09:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11589
[09:29] <SillyZ> Ive played with a few desklets' just cant really find anything usefull and organized
[09:29] <site> ilba7r,  why cant i install the .sh file?
[09:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> There's another bug report with a similar issue...
[09:30] <SillyZ> btw is the loss of ath_pci common in 2.6.10-12 ?, theres no module in the prebuilt kernel
[09:30] <ilba7r> site is it executable
[09:30] <Myrtti> SillyZ: rss-grab is good
[09:30] <blueandwhiteg3> What obvious thing am I missing in getting my Realtek ALC880 sound working?
[09:30] <site> yes
[09:30] <michael> is spalsh=noapic neccessary?
[09:30] <SillyZ> aye a good rss reader is definatly what I need
[09:30] <ilba7r> site when you type ls -l
[09:30] <ilba7r> site do you see -x attrib
[09:31] <site> no but i do see this vmware-distrib
[09:31] <site> and thats where the file is located!
[09:31] <SillyZ> mmm coffee /me brb
[09:31] <ilba7r> site anyway you can try chmod 755 <file name>
[09:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: probably not
[09:31] <michael> it's not on mine by default
[09:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: I'd hesitate to actually do that... it was just the first page that came up that looked promising. :|
[09:32] <michael> i don't think it's going to help, sorry
[09:32] <apostolis> Why do I get errors when I type
[09:32] <apostolis> sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[09:33] <site> got it
[09:33] <site> but
[09:33] <site> this error
[09:33] <site> services.sh: line 171: vmware_product_name: command not found
[09:33] <site> Warning: Unable to find 's main database /etc/vmware/locations.
[09:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> k
[09:33] <site> what does it mean?
[09:33] <apostolis> It says that package is not available
[09:33] <apostolis> is that possible?
[09:33] <ilba7r> site the file has to be executable normally chmod +x <file name>
[09:34] <site>  chmod +x services.sh
[09:34] <ilba7r> site there are more stuff you need to download and read. Do not paste errors here use the pastebin
[09:34] <site> nothing happend ilba7r
[09:34] <No1Viking> I followed the instructions to install the ATI drivers but still direct rendering is no.
[09:34] <site> ok
[09:34] <ilba7r> !tell site about pastebin
[09:34] <site> ilba7r, nothin happnd after chmod
[09:34] <ilba7r> bye site got to go now
[09:34] <site> ok bye
[09:35] <ilba7r> site if you type ls -l you will find the -x attrib this mean it is executable
[09:35] <Madpilot> site: what're you trying to do?
[09:35] <site> trying to install vmware
[09:35] <site> its a .sh file
[09:36] <site> and i dont know how to install it
[09:36] <site> sh services.sh doesnt work
[09:36] <site> it gave me the above error
[09:37] <site> do u know how to solve that maddler
[09:37] <site> Madpilot,
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> Just a curiosity: Has anyone tried the OEM install?  What was it like?  Does it resemble the way other OSs ship yet?
[09:38] <SillyZ> Myrtti, btw thanks for all the help and suggestions
[09:39] <morphix> morphix how would i go about installing ubuntu onto a usb hdd? | coz morphix I assume your motherboard support booting from usb? << of course
[09:39] <michael> i guess the problem is on bugzilla too, but no fix
[09:40] <site> Usage: installer.sh {kind|version|convertdb|uninstall}
[09:40] <Madpilot> site: sorry, not offhand...
[09:40] <site> how do i use sh?
[09:40] <site> i just typed sh installer.sh
[09:40] <site> and it says  ; Usage: installer.sh {kind|version|convertdb|uninstall}
[09:40] <SillyZ> q: why does it seem when I use the package manager, it only shows the older package ( if any ) and with apt-get I always get the newest, what am I doing wrong with package manager?
[09:41] <bunci> #timisoara
[09:41] <Madpilot> SillyZ: try hitting the Reload button in Synaptic...
[09:42] <fli7e> firefox is a bit slow for me, guys. anyone know of a faster browser for ubuntu with features comparable to IE/FireFox?
[09:42] <michael> let's try this - how can I reinstall gnome from command line?
[09:42] <site> does anyone know how to install with .sh
[09:42] <SillyZ> ok its downloading bout 18 files Madpilot well see what it comes up with on a few searches
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> fli7e, What version of FF, and from where?  Opera is generally quite fast too.
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> fli7e, Also check out the other gecko-based ones, like galeon.
[09:43] <fli7e> tonyyarusso, Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.7 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)
[09:43] <Kr0ntab> site...   what version of vmware did you download.... the latest off their site?
[09:43] <fli7e> from synaptics
[09:43] <blueandwhiteg3> I need some direction in setting up my sound under Ubuntu... suggestions anybody?
[09:44] <site> 5.5 Kr0ntab
[09:44] <SillyZ> Madpilot, thanks, seems to be wokring great now
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> fli7e, Extended or no?
[09:44] <fli7e> no
[09:44] <fli7e> default, no plugins or extensions
[09:45] <Kr0ntab> VMware-workstation-5.5.1-19175.tar.gz   ?
[09:45] <Kr0ntab> is that the file you downloaded?
[09:45] <site> no
[09:45] <fli7e> tonyyarusso, no, no extensions or plugins
[09:45] <site> VMware.Workstation.v5.5.0.18463.Linux.Incl
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> fli7e, Sometimes getting FF direct from Mozilla seems to be faster than the Ubuntu one, and you can also try 1.5 from them now, which is faster than 1.07, if you want to give FF a second chance.  Otherwise, see above, add Epiphany and dillo to the list to check out.
[09:45] <site> but
[09:46] <fli7e> tonyyarusso, thanks
[09:46] <site> how can i install it?
[09:46] <site> i see two .sh files
[09:46] <Kr0ntab> whats the size of that file?
[09:46] <site> but dont know how i can install it
[09:46] <michael> what packages do I need to install in order to reinstall gnome
[09:46] <site> 15.2kb
[09:46] <michael> or better yet - metacity
[09:47] <site> and 19.7 kb
[09:47] <Kr0ntab> ok.... you need to downlaod it again... because that doesnt sound right.  where did you get it...
[09:47] <site> no that are just the .sh files Kr0ntab
[09:47] <apostolis> is there any way to turn system fonts more handsome? The ones I have as awfull and have shadows all over the place
[09:47] <Kr0ntab> I meant the archive...
[09:48] <site> ok, that is rarred 95 MB
[09:48] <Kr0ntab> go to the directory that you have extracted the contents...
[09:48] <site> yes
[09:48] <Kr0ntab> pwd
[09:48] <Kr0ntab> type that in
[09:49] <Kr0ntab> and give output
[09:49] <site> /home/site/Desktop/vmware-distrib
[09:49] <momo>  configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[09:49] <momo>  >>> what to do ? :s search&install g++ ?
[09:49] <michael> how to remove metacity?
[09:49] <Kr0ntab> site lets take this in a query....
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> michael, There are packages named just that, gnome or metacity.  For the whole shebang with Gnome the package is ubuntu-desktop.
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> michael, removing is sudo apt-get remove packagename
[09:50] <michael> k, ty
[09:50] <apostolis> the fact tha gcc and g++ are installed/linked sucks
[09:50] <Kr0ntab> you may need to register with nickserv site
[09:50] <michael> how to reinstall packages from command  line?
[09:50] <michael> ok, sry
[09:50] <michael> bbl - io hope
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> michael, Reinstalling is sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[09:51] <Kr0ntab> sup tonyyarusso
[09:51] <site> Kr0ntab,
[09:52] <michael> lol, i'm already removing metacity, i was going to remove then install
[09:52] <site> can u tell it here?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, Me, for some ridiculous reason.  (3am here)
[09:52] <Kr0ntab> sure....
[09:52] <site>  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[09:52] <site> ok
[09:52] <Kr0ntab> hehe yeah tell me about it.
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> michael, Ah well, for future reference then.
[09:52] <Kr0ntab> site... ls -l ../
[09:52] <Kr0ntab> give me output of the line that says vmware-distrib
[09:53] <site> i see the files
[09:53] <site> paste?
[09:53] <Kr0ntab> www.pastebin.com
[09:53] <Kr0ntab> go there...
[09:53] <michael> doing that for gnome, then kubuntu, then a test
[09:54] <Kr0ntab> paste yer output in there... put in yer name.... and hit submit....
[09:54] <Kr0ntab> so you dont flood this channel
[09:54] <site> http://pastebin.com/489901
[09:54] <site> ok
[09:54] <site> handy site
[09:55] <michael> time to try it out :)
[09:55] <Kr0ntab> ok.... now type this....     sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[09:55] <SillyZ> I setup vmware earlier, there was a page on ubuntu's site about applying an vmware-any-any patch, also had to export CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" before compile
[09:55] <michael> If i'm back on soon, it worked - If I'm not, I'm reinstalling
[09:55] <Kr0ntab> i have vmware working without any patches whatsoever....
[09:56] <Kr0ntab> latest version off their site though
[09:56] <site> Ok
[09:56] <site> this question:
[09:56] <site> In which directory do you want to install the binary files?
[09:56] <Kr0ntab> do you have a graphical installer site?
[09:56] <Kr0ntab> woops
[09:56] <site> no
[09:56] <Kr0ntab> wrong installer...
[09:56] <site> terminal
[09:56] <site> Ok
[09:56] <site> clsoe
[09:56] <Kr0ntab> just accept defaults
[09:57] <site> just close terminal?
[09:57] <Kr0ntab> why would you close the terminal?
[09:57] <site> because the wrong installer
[09:57] <Kr0ntab> complete all the prompts....
[09:57] <keenan> there's no gstreamer 0.10 plugin to play mp3s?
[09:57] <site> but its the wrong right?
[09:57] <Kr0ntab> I made a mistake... its not a graphical installer....  its console based
[09:58] <Kr0ntab> pastebin what you have on yer screen.... you are on the right pasth
[09:58] <Kr0ntab> path
[09:59] <site> http://pastebin.com/489903
[09:59] <site> i just presesd enter all the times
[09:59] <site> thats good?
[09:59] <Kr0ntab> yup
[09:59] <Kr0ntab> loos great
[09:59] <Kr0ntab> looks*
[10:00] <Kr0ntab> have you read what it's asking you?
[10:00] <site> yea
[10:00] <Kr0ntab> hehe cool.   once yer finished.... it will take you back to yer prompt....
[10:00] <Kr0ntab> then all you have to do is type    vmware
[10:01] <Kr0ntab> that invokes a graphical application....
[10:01] <SillyZ> I use from an icon on the desktop gksudo /usr/bin/vmware
[10:01] <site> Probing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time)...
[10:02] <Kr0ntab> yer still configuring the networking components... that fine....
[10:02] <site> yep
[10:03] <Szehne> if you were given the choice between coding an installer in c or sh which is better?
[10:03] <site> http://pastebin.com/489905
[10:04] <site> cool
[10:04] <site> runnin vmware now
[10:04] <site> :D
[10:04] <Kr0ntab> yay
[10:04] <Kr0ntab> now that wasnt so hard huh
[10:04] <site> not really
[10:04] <Kr0ntab> have fun
[10:04] <site> thanx mate
[10:04] <Kr0ntab> np
[10:05] <Kr0ntab> now all you need is a serial...
[10:05] <wizardjames> i got a prob, and i am unsure how to get around it.   http://pastebin.com/489906    is the errror, if anyone could look at it and tell me what you can see
[10:05] <Kr0ntab> haha
[10:06] <site> ive got that included :)
[10:06] <site> but do u recommend this, split disk into 2gb files?
[10:06] <site> i want to use windows for downloading large files
[10:06] <site> so i need a big disk for windows
[10:07] <wizardjames> whats there to download in windows u cant in ubuntu?..
[10:07] <Szehne> if you were given the choice between coding an installer in c or sh which is better?
[10:07] <site> no wizardjames those are windows files, and its easier for me
[10:07] <blueandwhiteg3> I need to have kernel sources (or part of them) present to compile a newer version of ALSA to properly support my sound hardware. Is there is a proper way to install the kernel sources under Ubuntu?
[10:07] <Kr0ntab> yeah..... and the hard disk size that you put in... thats a maximum size... just be sure to make it large enough to fit what yer putting on the drive.   the files will start small... and grow as they need.  but the size you put in is the max.  so choose wisely
[10:07] <wizardjames> i see..
[10:08] <site> so i can choose 250 GB, thats the maximum capacity of my harddisk?
[10:08] <La_PaRCa> blueandwhiteg3, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:08] <wizardjames> anyways..   can someone help me?  http://pastebin.com/489906 is the error,
[10:09] <site> but what does split into 2GB files mean?
[10:09] <site> split disk into 2GB Files?
[10:09] <blueandwhiteg3> La_PaRCa: Do I literally type "-$(uname -r)" at the end? Or am I supposed to do some sort of substitution?
[10:09] <La_PaRCa> blueandwhiteg3, literally
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> wizardjames-> why are you installing that stand alone package?
[10:10] <Madpilot> blueandwhiteg3: the substitution will be done automagically
[10:10] <blueandwhiteg3> Thanks.. it's done fetching
[10:10] <Kr0ntab> wizardjames-> the problem is that the package yer installing is overwriting a file from another package... the oficial libfame deb
[10:11] <wizardjames> yeah i know
[10:11] <wizardjames> that
[10:11] <site> Kr0ntab, what does split into 2GB files mean?
[10:11] <site> split disk into 2GB files
[10:11] <wizardjames> but,  when i uninstall the offical one.  it removes a bunch of stuff
[10:12] <wizardjames> so when install the new one,   and go to reinsall all of the stuff that got removed,   it trys to install the offical libfame
[10:12] <Kr0ntab> it means that the virtual hard disk will not be one huge file... it will be split into 2 gig pieces... if it needs to.
[10:12] <site> so i cant store one file of 4GB?
[10:13] <wizardjames> so any ideas Kr0ntab ?
[10:13] <Kr0ntab> wizard.. that because the other packages are dependent on libfame... the package maintainers did not include your unofficial .deb as one that fulfills their package dependency...
[10:14] <wizardjames> so, how would i trick it into being the same thing..
[10:14] <site> so i cant store one file of 4GB? Kr0ntab
[10:15] <Kr0ntab> site.. within the virtual operating system... all those 2 gig files are still presented to the OS as a single hard disk.   you can save files as large as you want (or at least to the size limitations of that operating system and file system)
[10:15] <Szehne> can a shell script generate/check md5 sums?
[10:16] <site> would u recommend that Kr0ntab ?
[10:16] <morphix> how would i go about installing ubuntu onto a usb hdd? my motherboard supports booting from usb devices
[10:16] <j2daosh> ubotu tell me about mounting ntfs drives
[10:17] <Kr0ntab> you can try dpkg -i filename.deb --force
[10:17] <j2daosh> ubotu tell me about ntfs mounts
[10:17] <Kr0ntab> I havent used the force commmand... but it might do the trick...
[10:17] <Kr0ntab> man dpkg for more info
[10:17] <j2daosh> ubotu tell me about mounting windows disks
[10:18] <Madpilot> !tell j2daosh about ntfs
[10:18] <j2daosh> damn... i cant for the life of me remeber what that guy said to make it give me the link
[10:18] <Kr0ntab> site-> yeah.  sure.  why not.  :-P
[10:18] <j2daosh> yeah that one, thank you very much
[10:18] <site> dont know what is better
[10:19] <Kr0ntab> !ubotu tell me about ntfs mounts
[10:19] <Kr0ntab> thats how you interact with him
[10:19] <Jeeves_moss> kevix:  sorry bud, it kicked me.
[10:19] <Jeeves_moss> kevix:  it didden't like both of them.  now what?
[10:20] <j2daosh> have they changed the wiki?
[10:20] <site> damn
[10:20] <site> how can i open a .nfo file?
[10:20] <Madpilot> j2daosh: it's a wiki, it's always changing slowly - has something moved?
[10:21] <Jeeves_moss> site: pico?
[10:21] <Ng> site: it's just a text file, so gedit or more or something
[10:21] <Jeeves_moss> fooz:  you still here?
[10:21] <site> ok thanx
[10:21] <Jeeves_moss> site:  np
[10:22] <Jeeves_moss> kevix, fooz:  you guys still here?
[10:23] <Jeeves_moss> all:  any one know how to set up NTP?
[10:23] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, ordinarily the install will set it up for you
[10:23] <j2daosh> where can i get freenx from again? i enabled all my repos but it couldn't find it
[10:23] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, setting up the ntp client is just a matter of putting the ntp server address into a config file
[10:23] <Jeeves_moss> sethk:  humm, well my one server still thinks its 2002
[10:23] <spacey_ki> j2daosh, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:24] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, does dmesg show the ntp service coming up?
[10:24] <spacey_ki> j2daosh, also check the FreeNX wikipage
[10:25] <Jeeves_moss> sethk: more like it thinks its "Thu Dec 19 23:32:17 EST 2002"  I was wondering how I could set up a local NTP server, and then have all my machines sync to it.  If its down, then they sync to a remote server.  How would I go about checking?
[10:25] <j2daosh> im about to add seveas to my repos... but it is asking for more info then just the link...
[10:25] <sethk> you mean checking whether the local server is down?
[10:25] <j2daosh> have the whole line to add as a repo?
[10:25] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, I believe it is smart enough to do that for you if you provide it with more than one ntp server in the config file
[10:25] <spacey_ki> j2daosh, its on the website
[10:25] <spacey_ki> all the instructions
[10:26] <wizardjames> thanks mate, it worked.. i think.
[10:26] <Jeeves_moss> sethk:  more like a 2 part problem.  I need help setting up a local time server (for all my machines to sync to), and then ~if~ that machine is down, then the rest of them will sync to a remot server (anywhere on the internet)
[10:26] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, part two is what I was talking about.  Setting up an ntp server is, actually, somewhat involved
[10:27] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, I haven't done it in a long time.  You can find info pretty easily on the web
[10:27] <Jeeves_moss> sethk:  so I heard.  I asked for help @ the NTP web site, and I got a snooty answer.  If they expect their service to gain in populatiry, then they might think about knocking off the attude.
[10:27] <spacey_ki> Jeeves_moss, i think you can configure secondary servers
[10:28] <sethk> Jeeves_moss, hey, you find attitudes all over
[10:28] <sethk> spacey_ki, right, for the client, as I said, it's trivial, you just give the client more than one server to contact
[10:28] <spacey_ki> never bothered myself with ntpd tough
[10:28] <sethk> ntpd is the nasty part.  :)
[10:28] <spacey_ki> :>
[10:29] <spacey_ki> sounds like a simple service though :)
[10:29] <Jeeves_moss> spacey_ki:  All I want is a seco 3 or 4 server internaly (I've got a old 486 that is going to take care of that) for my local network.  But now I need to find out how to tell all my Debian boxes to sync properly.  as I said, this one server STILL thinks its "Thu Dec 19 23:32:17 EST 2002"
[10:29] <olicat> if i want to set up a linux virtual server, which sits in front of my mail server and web server, what would i need to do?
[10:29] <Jeeves_moss> spacey_ki:  do I see a source forge project comming on?  LOL
[10:29] <spacey_ki> well you can just set up an cronjob which calls ntpdate? :)
[10:30] <spacey_ki> Jeeves_moss, ;)
[10:30] <spacey_ki> Jeeves_moss, simple service to configure, not to write ;P
[10:30] <Jeeves_moss> spacey_ki:  so what is your sudgestion as to where I can look to get a step by step on this?  Its not that important right this second, but it would be in the VERY neer future.
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> If I have two Linux computers hooked up directly with a crossover ethernet cable, what do I need to do from there to transfer files between them?  I used samba once to share with a Windows box on wireless; is there something simpler?
[10:31] <spacey_ki> Jeeves_moss, well check the manpage of `ntpdate`, check how you add cronjobs. :) and your almost there. :)
[10:31] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: SSH/sftp thru Nautilus
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Whoosh - over the head.  Can you explain?
[10:32] <Jeeves_moss> spacey_ki:  ok, I think I'm going to play some CS-Source now that I've got my main server up.  Thanks again.
[10:32] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: erm... I've set it up once, but I'm not sure I can explain very well...
[10:32] <spacey_ki> Jeeves_moss, gl
[10:32] <spacey_ki> Madpilot, tonyyarusso, you can also just use FTP or NFS
[10:33] <spacey_ki> for SSH/sftp there is not much to setup btw.
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, If you can say anything it might be helpful.
[10:33] <spacey_ki> just install openssh-server on one box
[10:33] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: sounds like spacey_ki has a better handle on it than I do
[10:33] <spacey_ki> and connect to it with Connect to dialog in gnome.
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Could be.  Please continue spacey_ki.
[10:34] <spacey_ki> tonyyarusso, anyway, make decision on which service you want to use. basicly:
[10:34] <spacey_ki> if you want linux <-> linux and are on a private network i recommend nfs.
[10:34] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  NFS is very nice for filesharing between 2 computers
[10:34] <spacey_ki> but if you use windows
[10:35] <spacey_ki> then ftp is quite easy and *fast*.
[10:35] <kemik> if you use windows, try samba
[10:35] <spacey_ki> if you are on unsecure network use ssh but you get lower throughput speeds
[10:35] <spacey_ki> because it uses encryption
[10:36] <kemik> ssh/ftp doesnt stream well...
[10:36] <spacey_ki> if you just want no hassle afterwards, samba is the way to go
[10:36] <spacey_ki> if you have a linux server-> windows clients
[10:37] <spacey_ki> tonyyarusso,?:)
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> spacey_ki, I think I followed that.  Thanks.  You too kemik and Madpilot.
[10:37] <Irvine> how to update nautilus?
[10:38] <spacey_ki> Irvine, "update" in what sense?
[10:39] <Hendikins> spacey_ki: The paranoid amongst us may prefer to use nfs and Services for Unix on the Windows side.
[10:39] <spacey_ki> Hendikins, i don't think the paranoid use NFS ;)
[10:39] <llama32-gone> what debian does ubuntu 4.10 correspond to?
[10:39] <spacey_ki> or windows for that matter ;)
[10:39] <Hendikins> spacey_ki: alright, the slightly more paranoid :P
[10:39] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, none
[10:40] <crimsun> llama32-gone: none, really, though it's a mish-mash of sarge and sid at the time of sarge's release
[10:40] <dreamil> hi all
[10:40] <spacey_ki> Hendikins, pretty is different yes:)
[10:40] <dreamil> i have 5.10 ver installed on my machine
[10:40] <Irvine> how to install hp printer driver?
[10:41] <jassy> hi all
[10:41] <dreamil> but the devanagari keyboard layout is missing in that
[10:41] <dreamil> jassy, oye
[10:41] <spacey_ki> Irvine, plug it in, and select add printer in the printer dialog?
[10:41] <dreamil> all other indian script keyboards are there
[10:41] <Robbster> lo all. Everytime I boot ubuntu (breezy), my network is 'deactivated'. I click on active and it's all fine. How do I specify that the connection is active be default?
[10:41] <spacey_ki> Irvine, driver itself should be included
[10:42] <llama32-gone> crimsun, spacey_ki: what debian repository would be the best to use? ie less problems (and preferably less downloading of upgrades - im on dialup)
[10:42] <crimsun> llama32-gone: don't use any Debian repositories.
[10:42] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, don't use debian repository
[10:42] <dreamil> only devanagari is missing
[10:42] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, what software do you miss in ubuntu?
[10:42] <spacey_ki> Irvine, if not you can install it, search for hpijs
[10:43] <llama32-gone> crimsun, spacey_ki: gobjc
[10:43] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, its in ubuntu
[10:43] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, did you add universe repository?
[10:43] <llama32-gone> crimsun, spacey_ki: it seems to be there but missing dependancies or something - i couldnt install
[10:44] <llama32-gone> spacey_ki: only 2.95 will install, ill check about universe
[10:44] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, it installs here
[10:44] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, version 4.0
[10:44] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: just found this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> How do I restrict locate to a directory?
[10:45] <spacey_ki> tonyyarusso, you don't:)
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Beautiful?
[10:45] <Robbster> I may have, umm, tamperes with the networking settings and now my connection (eth0) doesn't become active on boot. How do I fix that?
[10:45] <spacey_ki> tonyyarusso, if you want to search in a certain directory. use find
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> spacey_ki, Ah, 'k.
[10:45] <llama32-gone> spacey_ki: in 4.10? i can only see 2.95, 3.2 and 3.4, and only 2.95 will install
[10:45] <spacey_ki> tonyyarusso, like `find /home/tony -name *.mp3`
[10:45] <vbgunz> can someone please help me understand += and -=? Why not just + OR -? I am working on this bit of code (studying).... I do not understand these delimiters :(
[10:45] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, on what ubuntu version are you?
[10:46] <morphix> how would i go about installing ubuntu onto a usb hdd? my motherboard supports booting from usb devices
[10:46] <momo> got a problem here with amarok, anyone available 2 help ?
[10:46] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, oh 4.10 sorry :)
[10:46] <kemik> vbgunz:  it's just another way of writing
[10:46] <vbgunz> ahh damn... wrong channel :P
[10:46] <llama32-gone> spacey_ki: 4.10 ('warty' by the looks of it)
[10:46] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, sorry i don't have that anymore, bit hard to check.
[10:46] <vbgunz> kemik: sorry, I meant to write that into the Python channel :)
[10:46] <llama32-gone> spacey_ki: not to worry
[10:47] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, maybe it works if universe is added.
[10:47] <Madpilot> llama32-gone: you should probably upgrade your Ubuntu install - 5.10 is the current, you're two generations behind
[10:47] <kemik> vbgunz:  oki.. well, it's still just a 'shorthand' for "test = test + x" ) (test += x)
[10:47] <spacey_ki> universe might contain the dependency your looking for
[10:47] <llama32-gone> Madpilot: i'd upgrade if i wasnt on dialup
[10:47] <vbgunz> kemik: ahh, so very sweet, thank you bro!
[10:47] <llama32-gone> spacey_ki: it is
[10:47] <spacey_ki> llama32-gone, order cd ;)
[10:47] <Badm4n> lolz
[10:47] <kemik> vbgunz:  np
[10:47] <Madpilot> llama32-gone: ouch... that's a good reason
[10:47] <Badm4n> failed to upgrade breezy to dapper :D
[10:47] <Badm4n> X Windows error
[10:47] <llama32-gone> lol Madpilot
[10:48] <Badm4n> :((
[10:48] <Madpilot> llama32: you can get free CDs from Ubuntu - shipit.ubuntu.com
[10:48] <spacey_ki> llama32, so problem solved?
[10:48] <davix__> is there a premiere like program for ubuntu?
[10:48] <Badm4n> anyone know how to repair it :D
[10:49] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  what was the error message?
[10:49] <llama32> Madpilot, spacey_ki: come to think of it, i did. sorta forgot :)
[10:49] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  tried sudo apt-get -f install ?
[10:49] <Badm4n> X Windows couldnt start
[10:49] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  what gfx card?
[10:49] <spacey_ki> llama32, put up your error messages in pastebin
[10:49] <Badm4n> and then it automatically disable
[10:49] <Badm4n> nvidia
[10:50] <davix> is there a premiere like program for ubuntu?
[10:50] <dreamil> GNULinuxer, you here
[10:50] <GNULinuxer> dreamil:
[10:50] <dreamil> GNULinuxer,
[10:51] <sushi> ..
 Badm4n:  tried sudo apt-get -f install ? <--- just type it ? no need to edit /apt/sourcelist to breezy ?  or keep it on dapper ?
[10:52] <llama32> spacey_ki: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6585
[10:54] <dreamil> GNULinuxer, help!
[10:54] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  just type it
[10:54] <GNULinuxer> dreamil: ask the question here
[10:56] <dreamil> GNULinuxer, asked
[10:56] <coz> hello all
[10:56] <dreamil> i have 5.10 ver installed on my machine
[10:56] <spacey_ki> llama32, and can you install gcc-3.4?
[10:56] <dreamil> but the devanagari keyboard layout is missing in that
[10:56] <dreamil> all other indian script keyboards are there
[10:56] <dreamil> only devanagari is missing
[10:56] <spacey_ki> llama32, i mean more like what errors does that give
[10:57] <dreamil> i.e. the GNOME xkb applet doesnt show devanagari keyboard in the list
[10:57] <kemik> uhm
[10:57] <coz> dreamil does gnome support that keyboard layout
[10:57] <kemik> nautilus sort by name is broken
[10:57] <dreamil> coz, yes
[10:58] <dreamil> coz, it is there from gnome 2.2 I guess
[10:58] <llama32> spacey_ki: those are the errors. depends on xxxxx but not installable
[10:58] <coz> did you install this on a clean hard drive?
[10:58] <kemik> filenames such as "00-xxxx" comes inbetween "06-xxx" and "07-xxx"
[10:59] <coz> dreamil did you install this on a clean hard drive
[10:59] <Badm4n> alrite
[10:59] <dreamil> yes ofcourse
[10:59] <Badm4n> i'll type it
[10:59] <Badm4n> brb restart back to ubuntu dapper console :D
[10:59] <coz> so this was a new or low formatted hard drive
[11:00] <coz> dreamil so this was a new or low formatted harddrive
[11:00] <dreamil> new
[11:00] <coz> ok well it is possible tyo have a bad install
[11:01] <dreamil> which package provides xkb layouts?
[11:01] <coz> hold on I will check
[11:02] <test> ok... can someone unban my name?
[11:02] <spacey_ki> llama32, i think you have to find out why gcc3-4 is not installable
[11:02] <coz> dreamil try this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76261.html
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> When I log into Gnome I get a message saying my Gnome and X keyboard settings don't match, and asking which to use.  How do I fix this?
[11:03] <test> is someone here against having media codec's? cuz thats the only thing i said and now im banned....
[11:03] <coz> does anyone use the app fyre or have used it
[11:03] <dreamil> I am rebooting back to my good old sarge
[11:03] <dreamil> for now atleast
[11:03] <Ng> test: codecs are fine to talk about. See the RestrictedFormats wiki page if you want to knkow how to install them
[11:04] <coz> test no no one has a problem
[11:04] <coz> who banned ytou
[11:04] <coz> you
[11:04] <topyli> tonyyarusso: it's just saying it found a .xmodmap file in your home dir. answer its question and it should be happy
[11:04] <coz> dreamil reinstall
[11:04] <test> i dont know... it doesn't say... but when i tried to log back in on my j2daosh account it says im banned from this channel
[11:04] <coz> test some idiot child minded doof did it
[11:05] <coz> so you need help with the codecs
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> topyli, Should I choose the option "Don't show me this again"?  It doesn't correct the discrepancy when I choose one; the same thing will come back next time I log in.
[11:05] <Ng> test: maybe your address is very close to someone who was being an idiot and the ban was too liberal
[11:05] <topyli> tonyyarusso: oh, if it has such an option, choose it by all means
[11:05] <coz> banning people for ANY reason is childish
[11:05] <Badm4n> no im running at ubuntu console
[11:05] <topyli> tonyyarusso: i haven't seen the dialog in such a long time, i forget what it looks like
[11:06] <Badm4n> apt-get -f what ?
[11:06] <test> well how do i undo it? i tend to have atleast 2 questions a day... and half the time they are about recovering linux... so i cant afford a ban in here
[11:06] <crimsun> coz: it's a necessary evil at times.
[11:06] <Badm4n> i forgot :D
[11:06] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  tried sudo apt-get -f install ?
[11:06] <coz> ther are no applicable times for ths to happen
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> topyli, So choosing that might actually make it fix things, not just ignore it in the future?  (Or, where can I check those two settings, and manually make sure they match?)
[11:06] <coz> test do you need help with codecs
[11:06] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  use screen!! :)
[11:06] <test> yes... i just need to know the repos to get all of them install
[11:06] <Badm4n> arghh cannot copy paste my mouse not running
[11:06] <crimsun> the codecs are in universe and multiverse
[11:07] <aftertaf> type type type
[11:07] <coz> wel did you activate the universe etc in repositories
[11:07] <crimsun> occasionally they're available externally
[11:07] <Ng> test: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page as I said :)
[11:07] <test> ok i enabled those... so now i just search for restricted codecs and free codecs?
[11:07] <Badm4n> i use alt Fx
[11:07] <topyli> tonyyarusso: actually there's nothing to fix, since nothing is broken. it's just asking you if you want to use your xmodmap modifications or not
[11:07] <Badm4n> but how i can tell u about the error
[11:07] <coz> ok I can help with this
[11:07] <Badm4n> error @ gnome-btdownload :(
[11:07] <coz> I am going to gin you a url so hold on t
[11:08] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  what is your gfx card?
[11:08] <topyli> tonyyarusso: the setting probably is set by gconf, so you should find it in gconf-editor if you want to change it in the future
[11:08] <Badm4n> nvidia
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> topyli, Okay, so not "broken" as far as Ubuntu is concerned, but still in the "How the heck did I make it think that anyway?" sense.
[11:08] <aftertaf> oki
[11:08] <test> where is the wiki home page?
[11:08] <coz> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marrilat/pool/w/w32codecs
[11:08] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  edit your xorg.conf and put "nv" instead of nvidia
[11:08] <coz> test use this url to get the w32codecs
[11:08] <coz> and download the .deb file
[11:08] <aftertaf> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:08] <Madpilot> test: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is the best place to start
[11:09] <test> coz... that directory is invalid
[11:09] <coz> let me see if I spelled it right
[11:09] <topyli> tonyyarusso: if you have an .xmodmap file, gnome will kindly ask you if you want to use it. in most cases, i'd ignore the .xmodmap and leave things to gnome
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> topyli, Okay.
[11:09] <topyli> tonyyarusso: unless you have made some important changes in the .xmodmap
[11:09] <coz> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs
[11:09] <coz> I did spell it incorrectly
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> topyli, There are shortcut keys defined there.
[11:10] <coz> try that one
[11:10] <Badm4n> sorry my graphics card = ATI A950 :)
[11:10] <Badm4n> aftertaf: sorry my graphics card = ATI A950 :)
[11:10] <coz> test when you donwload the .deb file put it in your home folder
[11:10] <blue-frog> test, use the question mark on your taskbar...
[11:10] <topyli> tonyyarusso: what kind of shorcuts? to launch a web browser and such?
[11:11] <test> error 550 no such file or directory coz
[11:11] <test> what ? mark
[11:11] <Badm4n> aftertaf: and that devices already exist on my xorg.conf
[11:11] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  lol ok.    type this then: sudo dpkg-reconfigure phigh xserver-xorg
[11:11] <coz> are you in your browser
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> topyli, To use special keys I had lying around to switch to workspace right/left.
[11:11] <coz> or terminal
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> topyli, I had to define them as F19/20 or something like that.
[11:11] <coz> put that url in the address bar of firefox or whateer browser you areusing
[11:11] <topyli> tonyyarusso: oh, you can easily define those in the gnome keyboard preferences. gnome is more likely to honor its own settings :)
[11:12] <Badm4n> aftertaf: phigh not installed
[11:12] <test> both
[11:12] <coz> put the url in firefox web browser and download the .deb file
[11:12] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  lol ok.    type this then: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> topyli, Will keep in mind.  (Was just following the ThinkWiki.)
[11:12] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  sorry, forgot the "-"
[11:12] <JoeBlow> should I install the ati catalyst linux drivers for my ati 9700 pro?
[11:12] <Badm4n> lol
[11:12] <coz> test are you running breezy
[11:12] <aftertaf> 3 things at once ;)
[11:13] <Badm4n> xserver-xorg not installed
[11:13] <Badm4n> :((
[11:13] <Badm4n> lolz
[11:13] <test> yep
[11:13] <coz> ok good
[11:13] <coz> did you download that file
[11:13] <test> !ubotu tell me about w32codecs
[11:13] <Badm4n> lol worng typing i type sxerver
[11:13] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  ahh;.. tried sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ?
[11:13] <Badm4n> aftertaf: brb
[11:13] <aftertaf> lol Badm4n ook
[11:13] <Badm4n> aftertaf: done
[11:14] <Badm4n> ( not use mouse ... my mouse not running :( )
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> Oh, in case the people that were suggesting backup tools to me earlier are still here, cpbk looks like it will do the trick nicely.
[11:14] <anonym001> hi
[11:14] <site> hi
[11:14] <coz> test hold on I will sen the w32codecs
[11:14] <anonym001> how can i restart my soundserver (ALSA) ?
[11:14] <site> i got the keykamer but i dont know where my key is from vmware :(
[11:15] <site> maker*
[11:15] <test> im getting them
[11:15] <test> i asked ubotu for the link
[11:15] <tonyyarusso> What can I run to view the keycode for anything I press?
[11:15] <aftertaf> ok. Badm4n now try this : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:16] <Badm4n> aftertaf: done ... what next ?
[11:16] <test> !easysource
[11:16] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:16] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  did x start?
[11:16] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, xev
[11:16] <coz> test put it in your home folder open termianl and type this
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, Thanks.
[11:17] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  ok, : sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop      then        startx, and look for any EE error lines. what do they say?
[11:17] <thegladiator> hi
[11:17] <JoeBlow> should I install the ati catalyst linux drivers for my ati 9700 pro?
[11:18] <thegladiator> i was wondering if I could install the official DIVX player on ubuntu
[11:18] <Badm4n> fatal error no screens found
[11:18] <teja> anyone know how to resize a ufs parition
[11:18] <thegladiator> the default codecs for some reason ,I am not certain, show a pinkish linee that blinks at the extreme end of the video
[11:18] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  ok.    when you typed sudo apt-get -f install, did any errors occur, and were any packages mentioned if so?
[11:18] <coz> test what are trying to do on this machine?
[11:19] <Badm4n> aftertaf: yes there is a error
[11:19] <thegladiator> anyone who has tried DIVX yet ?
[11:19] <Badm4n> ( wait i'll type it manual )
[11:19] <test> just be able to play mepgs mp3s and stuff like that
[11:19] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  ok.
[11:19] <test> brb
[11:20] <thegladiator> so someon has installed DIVX player ?
[11:20] <Badm4n> --> /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome-btdownload.postinst: line 5
[11:20] <Badm4n> aftertaf:  that the first error
[11:20] <Badm4n> when i type X
[11:20] <thegladiator> is DIVX player in the repo ?
[11:20] <Badm4n> when i typeapt-get -f install
[11:21] <Ng> thegladiator: there are divx codecs available, but not the official player
[11:21] <Ng> thegladiator: which is probably windows only or something
[11:21] <Badm4n> btw how to turn on my mouse so i can easier copy paste :D
[11:21] <thegladiator> it is not windows only
[11:21] <Ng> thegladiator: also, please don't ask your question several times in a row, if nobody is answering then probably nobody knows
[11:21] <thegladiator> I have installed it in my knoppix system
[11:21] <thegladiator> sorry about that
[11:21] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  ok.     can you edit that file ?  sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/gnome-btdownload.postinst
[11:21] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  and comment out line 5.
[11:21] <Ng> thegladiator: ok, well as far as I know it's not in the repositories, so you'd need to install by hand if the available divx codecs aren't good enough
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> What is the "keymap file", in the context of lkl?
[11:22] <Badm4n> done
[11:22] <thegladiator> Ng, the problem I get is a pinkish line that blinks at one extremity of the screen , which doesnt happen on windows
[11:22] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  cool, try the apt -f thing again... ;)
[11:22] <Badm4n> lolz
[11:23] <Badm4n> line 6 error
[11:23] <aftertaf> what are those lines????
[11:23] <GodIsDead> Hello
[11:23] <aftertaf> hang on, ill grab it
[11:24] <GodIsDead> I'm somewhat new to Linux, and am trying to run Ubuntu from an external hard drive.
[11:24] <Badm4n> line 5 : gconf-schemas --register gnome-btdownloadschemas
[11:24] <Badm4n> line 6 : fi
[11:24] <site>  no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:24] <site> how can i solve that problem?
[11:24] <bimberi> site: install build-essential
[11:24] <GodIsDead> While http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 is a great post, it doesn't appear to have much info on how to boot to a USB device if one's BIOS doesn't support USB booting.
[11:24] <site> get it while tryin to install amsn
[11:24] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  i'd recommend going to kde, but hey ;) :] 
[11:25] <site> ok bimberi is that the command too?
[11:25] <Badm4n> kbuntu ?
[11:25] <Badm4n> lolz
[11:25] <aftertaf> site:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:25] <GodIsDead> Using the Ubuntu install disk as a Boot Disc, is their a command I can use to boot to the usb device?
[11:25] <thegladiator> aftertaf, why kde ?
[11:25] <site> ok
[11:25] <No1Viking> If I installed a modem and all looks good, how do I make a call with it and send username and password for the internet connection?
[11:25] <thegladiator> no flame war , but asking :)
[11:25] <bimberi> site: no, but aftertaf was fast :P
[11:25] <Badm4n> aftertaf: maybe you can help me to turn it back to breezy lolz ( i'll patient till dapper stable version ) lol
[11:25] <aftertaf>  #ubuntu-offtopic for much window manager debacles ;)
[11:25] <pc22> is there ubuntu-israel?
[11:26] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  i'm on dapper now... ;) and its ok ish
[11:26] <site> yes indeed :p
[11:26] <Badm4n> :(
[11:26] <aftertaf> hehe bimberi :)
[11:26] <Badm4n> i get mirror from kambing.vlsm.org
[11:26] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  looking at the postinst file asap
[11:27] <Badm4n> aftertaf: is that problem with my grapichs card ?
[11:27] <site>  tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev
[11:27] <GodIsDead> ? Anyone have any ideas?
[11:27] <site> what to do?
[11:28] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  for the gnome-btdownload file, comment all the lines out for now...... then run apt-get -f install again, it might just be that your packages havent been configured yet.
[11:28] <aftertaf> site apt-cache search tcl-dev
[11:28] <Badm4n> ok
[11:28] <GodIsDead> What procedure/commands to use when trying to use the Install CD as a Boot Disc to boot to an external USB device.
[11:29] <aftertaf> Badm4n:   ** might **    <-- i guarantee nuthin ;)
[11:29] <aftertaf> site:  you installing from apt/synaptic? or compiling source yourself?
[11:29] <crimsun> Badm4n: tcl8.4-dev
[11:29] <mwe> GodIsDead: you installed ubuntu to an external disk?
[11:30] <Badm4n> crimsun: ?
[11:30] <aftertaf> lol meant site i thnk
[11:30] <Badm4n> aftertaf: yes it run without error but still cannot run X
[11:30] <ValiSystM> is 64 Mo enough for hoary live CD ?
[11:30] <Madpilot> later all, I need sleep...
[11:30] <GodIsDead> mwe:  Thanks for helping!
[11:30] <aftertaf> ok Badm4n try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and choose vesa or ati for now, could be an issue with ati drivers in dapper X
[11:31] <site> aftertaf, i know how synaptic works
[11:31] <GodIsDead> mwe:  Finished installing as per the http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 instructions
[11:31] <aftertaf> site:  just asking..... your errors sounded like compilation woes, not package parties :)
[11:31] <Badm4n> running
[11:31] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  ok :)
[11:31] <Badm4n> auto detect or manual better ?
[11:31] <Badm4n> ( looks happy again :D )
[11:31] <GodIsDead> mwe: The problem is that my computer doesn't support USB booting, so I can't go to the next and final phase.
[11:31] <site> aftertaf, yes amsn needs to be compiled first
[11:31] <aftertaf> try for ati first, then failsafe vesa if no luvk
[11:32] <mwe> GodIsDead: Well then I think you have a problem
[11:32] <aftertaf> site:  are you installing amsn from synaptic? or from a tarball?
[11:32] <site> tar
[11:32] <GodIsDead> mwe:  But I've read that it is possible to use the Install CD as a boot disk to load to a device regardless of whether the BIOS supports it natively.
[11:33] <GodIsDead> mwe:  So while it *would* be a pain in the arse to re-type commands every time I want to reboot, it is possible to circumvent the BIOS to do so.
[11:33] <GodIsDead> mwe:  I mean, I was definitely able to access and edit the files on the external using "rescue"...
[11:33] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  where's it at man? ;)
[11:33] <JoeBlow> when i go to open one of my harddrives from the desktop, it tells me "the folder content could not be displayed"  but when i go to admin disks, i can browse it
[11:34] <site> aftertaf, , do u know what to do now?
[11:34] <mwe> GodIsDead: it's not a problem to mount the disk and access the files. it's the booting part I'm worried about
[11:34] <Badm4n> done
[11:34] <aftertaf> site:  as you didnt answer my question, no...
[11:34] <Badm4n> aftertaf: i already configure
[11:34] <Badm4n> should i run X now ?
[11:34] <site> aftertaf,  i say tar..
[11:34] <site> downloaded it from a site
[11:34] <aftertaf> site:  oki... any reason why not the synaptic package??
[11:35] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  startx ;)
[11:35] <site> didnt think about it
[11:35] <JoeBlow> how do i get to my harddrives??
[11:35] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, ntfs?
[11:36] <site> installing it from synaptic now :)
[11:36] <GodIsDead> mwe:  ...  it is quite possible that my def of "booting" is imprecise or inacurate.  In my mind the goal is to just get into the GUI without having a bunch of stuff running in the background.  Just find a way to load mount the device and then jump into using it fully.
[11:36] <anonym001> i have a ntfs file system which is mounted too, but i can't access it as a normal user. What do i have to do to get read (and write?) rights ?
[11:36] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: yea
[11:36] <aftertaf> site:  it *would* be easier to use the package, as and when it updates you dont have to go through all this again.... but otherwise, you need tcl8.4-dev as crimsun pointed out to Badm4n instead (lol)
[11:36] <Badm4n> the xserver disable now trying restarting GDM
[11:36] <Badm4n> :((
[11:36] <Badm4n> with bluescreen
[11:36] <No1Viking> If I installed a modem and all looks good, how do I make a call with it and send username and password for the internet connection?
[11:36] <JoeBlow> yea its ntfs
[11:36] <blue-frog> anonym001, JoeBlow change /etc/fstab  the line with ntfs    defaults replaced by user,umask=0222
[11:37] <mwe> GodIsDead: I have never tried myself, but I read about smart boot manager. I think maybe it can do it
[11:37] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: where exactly is that?
[11:37] <anonym001> ok
[11:37] <blue-frog> anonym001, JoeBlow then sudo umounmt your drives and sudo mount -a
[11:38] <mwe> GodIsDead: http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm. I don't know if it supports usb drives though.
[11:38] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, as it says /etc/fstab.... read
[11:38] <GodIsDead> mwe:  I'll look into Smart Boot Manager - it certainly helps that I can have a live cd to play with - but somebody at my local usergroup mentioned (http://olylug.com/olug/read.php?1,280) "So will the Ubuntu install, I put on an external hard-disk, boot with a Breezy Badger install disk if I type: linux root=/dev/sda2"
[11:39] <anonym001> yea i can access it. Ty blue-frog
[11:39] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  which driver is listed in your xorg.conf for gfx card?
[11:39] <app> Am I wrong or is there something wrong with 5.10 default screen clock / Adjust... / Use NTP / Install NTP... Several times now it has done nothing and no error reports.
[11:40] <app> I just wish Ubuntu could achive the quality, where things visible in default install really are idiot-proof...
[11:40] <Badm4n> why it say sis ?
[11:40] <Nyven> hi
[11:41] <Nyven> got a installation problem with ubuntu 5.10
[11:41] <blue-frog> app, default install install is idiot proof so far (with a ? for the partioner though..)
[11:41] <callan> What steps do I take to upgrade to test Dapper Drake?
[11:41] <Badm4n> no failed at the damn core
[11:42] <Nyven> is there someone that would be able to help me with a grub problem, on a default server install ?
[11:42] <Badm4n> mouse and keyboard
[11:42] <mwe> callan: I think sudo sed -i 's/breeze/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Expect breakage though
[11:43] <jago25_98> Is there something available to aid managing fonts. All fonts that is, not some X11 util from the 80's
[11:43] <mwe> callan: and back it up first
[11:43] <app> OK, I see now. Installing NTP from the clock fails WITH NO ERROR MESSAGE if you have apt-get running in another process. I think it should be a requirement to get to "restricted" packages, that error status of all system calls should always be checked and reported to user, if not handled.
[11:43] <Badm4n> damn :(( lolz
[11:43] <Badm4n> no keyboard and mouse detected
[11:43] <Nyven> is there someone that would be able to help me with a grub problem, on a default server install ?
[11:44] <mwe> Nyven: we need more info
[11:44] <Nyven> ok
[11:44] <callan> Thanks.
[11:44] <Nyven> I install ubunto 5.10, graphics bootscreen works from the CD
[11:44] <JoeBlow> im not sure where i run sudo commands, can somone help me get that set up?
[11:44] <MKA> hi @ all, i need an ftp client which supports TLS/SSL
[11:45] <Nyven> it then switched to text mode to install everything
[11:45] <Blippe> JoeBlow Terminal
[11:45] <Nyven> then I reboot after the install has completed
[11:45] <MKA> cant anyone
[11:45] <Nyven> the screen stays blanck ( in graphics mode) when the grub screen is supposed to appear
[11:45] <Nyven> grub doesn't display anything
[11:46] <Nyven> I can hear the machine boot after a couple of seconds, but the screen stays black
[11:46] <anonym001> where can  i get wine ?
[11:46] <bimberi> !wine
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> anonym001, apt-get.
[11:46] <Blippe> anonym001 synaptic
[11:46] <Badm4n> i thought it better if i restart
[11:46] <bimberi> ubotu tell anonym001 about wine
[11:46] <Badm4n> thx aftertaf :D
[11:46] <Nyven> I have booted rescue mode and tried to put a vga=1 in the menu.lst of grub, ran grub-install again and still it doesn't work...
[11:46] <mwe> Nyven: yeah it sounds bad. however I don't think the splash screen is the cause as it's not supposed to appear until after the grub menu
[11:46] <anonym001> tonyyarusso, i tryed that
[11:47] <Ofe> Any way to install Matrox G400 drivers to Breezy? Wiki says the drivers are for Hoary.
[11:47] <anonym001>  apt-get install wine
[11:47] <Blippe> anonym put a sudo before apt-get
[11:47] <Nyven> mwe: i'm not sure what the problem could be here, but I know that the system is working inthe background
[11:48] <anonym001> Blippe, i am root..
[11:48] <Nyven> mwe: I just can't work on the baox yet... I still have to configure the ssh, so I cant even get into the box remotly yet
[11:48] <aftertaf> Badm4n:  brb 2mins
[11:48] <anonym001> but ubotu told me :D
[11:48] <Blippe> great!
[11:49] <Ofe> !matrox
[11:49] <ubotu> Ofe: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:49] <GodIsDead> mwe: SBM doesn't do USB, I regret.
[11:49] <mwe> Nyven: you don't see anything grub related before the screen goes blank?
[11:50] <Nyven> nope.
[11:50] <Nyven> that is the problem...
[11:50] <mwe> GodIsDead: too bad :|
[11:50] <GodIsDead> mwe: Any other boot disks, or a way to properly use the install disc as a boot disc?
[11:50] <Nyven> mwe: I am not sure how to force it back to text mode either
[11:50] <Yetiszaf> How do I get Breezy to recognize module-configs in /etc/module.conf?
[11:50] <Blippe> ubotu tell Blippe about wine
[11:50] <crimsun> Yetiszaf: use the /etc/modprobe.d/  syntax
[11:51] <crimsun> Yetiszaf: as in: options someModule someParameter=someValue
[11:51] <Yetiszaf> crimsun: does that override hotplug & autodetects?
[11:51] <Nyven> mwe: there seems to be a command i can give it when I am on the boot screen, but not sure how to get to it
[11:51] <crimsun> Yetiszaf: it doesn't override anything, it's used by modprobe
[11:51] <mwe> Nyven: you have to mount the partition from a live cd and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst. make sure it's not trying to use a broken splash image or something. that's all I can think of
[11:51] <app> From the network activity icon you can click  Configure. You can open the tool many times, having simultaneous configuration windows open, which is confusing if not dangerous. Not good usability.
[11:51] <Yetiszaf> crimsun: I'll try that then and see.
[11:51] <crimsun> Yetiszaf: that syntax would exist in /etc/modprobe.d/someModule
[11:52] <Nyven> mwe: is it possible to not use a splash immage?
[11:52] <mwe> Nyven: if you can't see the boot screen you can't give it commands.
[11:52] <mwe> Nyven: this is breezy?
[11:52] <Nyven> mwe: 5.10
[11:53] <mwe> Nyven: it shouldn't be using a grub splash by default then. I don't know why it goes blank
[11:53] <app> You can actually configure an interface in one network icon / Configure window, then forget the window in the backgroun, open a new one, and see a blank configuration there. Very confusing.
[11:53] <Nyven> mwe: do you by any chance know what to put in the menu.lst to foce it to text mode... since when I boot from the CD it works correct and they work from text mode it seems.
[11:54] <mwe> crimsun: any idea what could cause grub to not show any menu and just blank the screen but yet boot?
[11:54] <app> Why is it that even the default screen of Ubuntu sets me into a spin of different usability problems? And I know a lot about Linux, I am just simulating a naive user clicking around and tryingf to get basic settings done.
[11:54] <crimsun> mwe: if the usplash-artwork symlink is invalid, that'd be a symptom
[11:55] <mwe> crimsun: ok
[11:55] <mwe> Nyven: just a sec.
[11:55] <crimsun> mwe: wait, no menu is displayed at all?
[11:55] <mwe> crimsun: no
[11:55] <crimsun> mwe: that'd be a /boot/grub/menu.lst issue, then
[11:55] <Nyven> crimsun, yup, no menu, just a black screen, no cursor
[11:55] <test> where can i get the winmac utilty?
[11:56] <crimsun> !winmac
[11:56] <ubotu> crimsun: Are you on ritalin?
[11:56] <crimsun> !win_mac
[11:56] <ubotu> crimsun: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:56] <crimsun> test: search the forum for win_mac or winmac
[11:56] <Ng> app: this is completely the wrong place to whine about usability, if you want to write up your findings, please do and submit them to the developers, or send a patch. This is a help/support channel
[11:56] <crimsun> !fstab
[11:56] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[11:56] <crimsun> test: or see the url above
[11:57] <app> Then, isn't there any "general Ubuntu talk" channel?
[11:57] <crimsun> app: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:57] <[DeCaf] > What is the simplest way to get local mail delivery functioning in Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:57] <Seveas> [DeCaf] , apt-get install postfix
[11:58] <[DeCaf] > Seveas: Hmm, tried this and also installed mailx and mutt. mutt says /var/mail/root no such directory. And mail reports no mail for root after trying to send mail to root.
[11:58] <zool2005> !jackbauer 01-the_white_stripes-walking_with_a_ghost.mp3
[11:58] <ubotu> zool2005: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:58] <Seveas> check postfix' log :)
[11:58] <[DeCaf] > Seveas: Where is it found?
[11:58] <Seveas> [DeCaf] , /var/log
[11:59] <app> BTW  I still did not manage to get ntp installed with the clock. I need help! And I want help in making the clock applet default GUI working, not help by circumventing the problem with separate NTP install with synaptic or apt-get. I want everything to work, and first and most I want the default tools to work!
[11:59] <rob1_lt> pfft
[11:59] <mwe> Nyven: could you somehow pastebin your menu.lst?
[11:59] <blue-frog> [DeCaf] , http://www.howtoforge.com/taxonomy_menu/1/4
[11:59] <blue-frog>  just skip the mysql part
[11:59] <Seveas> app, ntpdate is installed by default afaik
[11:59] <rob1_lt> app: read http://doc.ubuntu.com
[12:00] <rob1_lt> enjoy
[12:00] <Nyven> mwe: it is the default one that ubuntu creates, with the default partitions created
[12:00] <aftertaf> Seveas:  nice punt ;)
[12:00] <JoeBlow> im having trouble finding wine, does anyone know where to get it?
[12:00] <aftertaf> JoeBlow:  alcohol jokes aside, in synaptic
[12:00] <aftertaf> !wine
[12:00] <Seveas> !+wine
[12:00] <ubotu> wine is probably a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[12:00] <aftertaf> JoeBlow:  enable universe
[12:01] <Seveas> *multi*verse even :)
[12:01] <app> Seveas, and rob_lt: Why does the screen clock not enable NTP, but insists on failing to install it again and again? This is a fresh 5.10 install I just booted the first time.
[12:01] <Seveas> or better, see !easysource for bleeding edge wine repos
[12:01] <JoeBlow> aftertaf: how do i enable universe?
[12:01] <aftertaf> !repositories
[12:01] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[12:01] <aftertaf> JoeBlow:  ^^
[12:01] <Seveas> app, what's the error you get?
[12:01] <Nyven> mwe: mwe: wait I think I have a way...
[12:01] <mwe> Nyven: yes?
[12:02] <app> No errors were reported, that's the worst thing.
[12:02] <JoeBlow> i can find libwine ect, just not wine
[12:03] <aftertaf> app:  you mean on boot, when it tries to synch the clock?
[12:03] <Ng> app: if I close the date&time window after it installs NTP support, it doesn't ask to install it again
[12:03] <Seveas> app, I'm failing to understand what you are doing...
[12:03] <JoeBlow> i have everything checked in repositories
[12:03] <aftertaf> JoeBlow:  enable multiverse and update synaptic first
[12:03] <Ng> Seveas: aftertaf: I think he's talking about the Adjust Date & Time context menu entry on the gnoem clock applet
[12:03] <app> Hey, it works now. I just had to close and re-open the clock / Adjust...
[12:03] <Nyven> mwe: i have to register to dcc a file to you
[12:03] <aftertaf> oki
[12:03] <mwe> Nyven: use pastebin
[12:04] <Nyven> mwe: ? what it that ?
[12:04] <Seveas> app, ah, that's indeed a bug, it should immediately know that ntp support is available...
[12:04] <mwe> !tell Nyven about pastebin
[12:04] <mwe> Nyven: see the /msg from ubotu
[12:05] <JoeBlow> it says depends wine, but is not installable
[12:05] <Nyven> cool, checking it out now
[12:05] <JoeBlow> if i go to download any of the wine files, and i cant find any that are just called wine
[12:05] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[12:05] <Ofe> !easysources
[12:05] <ubotu> Ofe: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:05] <site> can i open an .exe file/
[12:05] <site> ?
[12:05] <Ofe> !easysource
[12:05] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:05] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  yes but u have to use wine
[12:06] <site> ok
[12:06] <rene> hello
[12:07] <mwe> site: linux can't use windows executeables. wine can open some though
[12:08] <Nyven> mwe: should I just past the content of me menu.lst in the text field and click send?
[12:08] <alain__> hello
[12:09] <JoeBlow> ok, i got it properly changed now
[12:09] <site> ok mwe
[12:09] <site> where is wine located?
[12:09] <site> i installed it :)
[12:09] <mwe> Nyven: yes. then paste the url
[12:09] <jago25_98> I can't seem to get `ttmkfdir`..
[12:09] <Seveas> site, just run 'win filename-of.exe
[12:09] <Seveas> site, just run 'wine filename-of.exe'
[12:09] <site> Ok
[12:10] <JoeBlow> it still wont let me install it, it says depends wine
[12:10] <Nyven> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6586
[12:10] <site> Wine failed with return code 1
[12:11] <kemik> site:  done your "winecfg"?
[12:11] <site> no
[12:11] <JoeBlow> i cant even get wine installed, it wont let me download the packages
[12:11] <Nyven> mwe: i tried to put the vga=1 in there
[12:11] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  how did u install wine?
[12:12] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  with apt-get?
[12:12] <Cessel> Hi @ All
[12:12] <JoeBlow> why does it tell me wine is not installable??
[12:12] <site> no synaptic
[12:12] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[12:13] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  do "apt-get install wine"
[12:13] <mwe> Nyven: you should put it after the kernel entry. use vga=ask. also try commenting the hiddenmenu in the beginning of the file
[12:13] <app> After failing  to set up my second Ethernet interface, which is WLAN, the network "Configure" dialog now takes several minutes to launch, which is VERY ANNOYING. The main Network window closes, and you are in a limbo with no errors or warnings or anything.
[12:13] <Nyven> mwe: will try this
[12:14] <site> ok
[12:14] <mwe> Nyven: maybe disable the splash as well
[12:14] <JoeBlow> where can i find the terminal in ubuntu?
[12:14] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: alt+f2 -> gnome-terminal
[12:14] <Inf3ctedFx> JoeBlow: Aplication/accesories
[12:14] <mwe> Nyven: if you get to the vga choice screen, choose scan
[12:14] <site> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:14] <app> It probably tries in vain to get dhcp from eth1, and while doing that, reports nothing. I think ALL X PROGRAMS SHOULD ALWAYS OPEN A STATUS CONSOLE, REPORTING ALL STDERR message to user.
[12:15] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  u have ur synaptic open u have to close synaptic first
[12:15] <mwe> app: um they use the log files
[12:15] <JoeBlow> i get Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:15] <site> ok
[12:16] <app> mwe, can you call "tail -f /var/log/messages"  "Linux for human beings"?
[12:16] <site> wine is the newest version..
[12:16] <site> it says
[12:17] <Inf3ctedFx> ok now site how what .exe do u want to open?
[12:17] <mwe> app: I don't think users would like a status console running with all programs. I certainly would not
[12:17] <Nyven> mwe: just to confirm after editing hte menu.lst , I have to do a grub-install /dev/hda1
[12:17] <mwe> Nyven: you don't need to reinstall grub
[12:17] <Seveas> Nyven, no
[12:18] <Nyven> k
[12:18] <Seveas> grub isn't lilo :)
[12:18] <JoeBlow> when i do apt get for wine , i get Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:18] <site> wine filename.exe
[12:18] <app> mwe, only sdterr messages, and hopefully not raw but parsed into nice warnings...
[12:18] <Inf3ctedFx> JoeBlow:  r u doing it as a root?
[12:18] <site> right Inf3ctedFx ?
[12:18] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  which .exe do u want to open?
[12:19] <site> some1 i just downloaded
[12:19] <Inf3ctedFx> like?
[12:19] <site> keygen.exe
[12:19] <Nyven> mwe:  still don't anywhere
[12:19] <Nyven> still just a blank screen
[12:19] <Nyven> mwe: but the machine is booting
[12:19] <Inf3ctedFx> it should open just like that  wine keygen.exe
[12:20] <mwe> Nyven: that's odd
[12:20] <Inf3ctedFx> but where the keygen.exe is locate it?
[12:20] <Nyven> mwe: is there a command i can run from a shell that will set the current video mode to text
[12:20] <JoeBlow> ok how do i do something as the root user
[12:20] <app> mwe: Most of the time programs don't write to stderr, and if there is something, your X program could just show you a windoiws saying: "Errors happened, do you want to see them?"
[12:20] <Nyven> mwe: something like "reset" ?
[12:20] <site> Wine failed with return code 1
[12:20] <JoeBlow> Inf3ctedFx: how do i do it as root
[12:21] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  where do u have the .exe file?
[12:21] <Inf3ctedFx> JoeBlow: sudo apt-get install wine
[12:21] <JoeBlow> Inf3ctedFx: so in terminal, as my current user, i just type sudo apt-get install wine ?
[12:21] <site> on my desktop
[12:22] <Inf3ctedFx> yes JoeBlow
[12:22] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  do "pwd" and paste here
[12:22] <app> BTW, my bigger problem, not related to standard GUI icons working, is this: My Fujitsu Amilo laptop enables WLAN with software on Windows. Do you know ho to enable it in Linux?
[12:23] <JoeBlow> ok guys, now i get this Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:23] <JoeBlow> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:23] <JoeBlow> is only available from another source
[12:23] <JoeBlow> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[12:23] <site> /home/site/Desktop/key
[12:23] <Seveas> JoeBlow, sources.list at the pastebin
[12:23] <JoeBlow> seveas, what does that mean, im totally a newbie
[12:23] <mwe> Nyven: the video mode is set to ask which implies standard text until the video mode selection screen comes up
[12:23] <Inf3ctedFx> well site  try to remove wine from Synaptic and then install it again from apt-get
[12:23] <app> My WLAN is motherboard Intel PRO something
[12:24] <Seveas> JoeBlow, go to $pastebin, paste your sources.list there
[12:24] <mwe> Nyven: so it's weird you don't see anything
[12:24] <site> how can i remove it Inf3ctedFx ?
[12:24] <JoeBlow> Seveas, whats a sources.list, and how do i get to the paste bin
[12:24] <Seveas> site, search for help somewhere else, we don't support illegal activities such as keygens
[12:24] <Seveas> !pastebin
[12:24] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:24] <Seveas> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:25] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  go to synaptic click on search , then when u find wine, just right click on the file and mark as remove
[12:25] <site> is it illegal when you own it?
[12:25] <Seveas> keygens are always illegal
[12:25] <site> ok
[12:26] <mwe> Nyven: just to clarify, you see the normal boot messages like detecting drives and so on. then the screen goes blank?
[12:26] <Inf3ctedFx> add tis 2 ur sources.list  _> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[12:26] <Inf3ctedFx> and also -> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[12:27] <site> can i install those debs with synaptic?
[12:28] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  go to cd /etc/apt  then do a sudo gedit sources.list adn add those linbes I gave u
[12:28] <Inf3ctedFx> after add those lines, do sudo apt-get update
[12:28] <site> Inf3ctedFx, on first link i dont see deb
[12:28] <anonym001>  whats the differenc between binary/
[12:28] <anonym001>  and breezy/ ?
[12:28] <anonym001> in the sources file..
[12:29] <Inf3ctedFx> site. open ur terminal and do " cd /atc/apt
[12:29] <ompaul> anonym001, well if it says breezy it should work, for anything else all bets are off
[12:29] <site> unkonw file or directory Inf3ctedFx
[12:30] <Inf3ctedFx> site "cd /etc/apt" without the quotes
[12:30] <ilba7r> I have a strange problem with cups-pdf. A file that is 77kb is brinted to be 5.8 MB. i had to print it in window and got 100 KB any one might now why cups-pdf explode the file sizes like that and is there a work around?
[12:31] <site> yes same message
[12:31] <Inf3ctedFx> show me here how r u typing
[12:31] <site>  cd /atc/apt
[12:31] <ilba7r> site still having prob with vmware :)
[12:31] <mwe> site: /etc
[12:31] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  LOOK what  r u typing
[12:31] <Seveas> site, an e is not an a...
[12:31] <mwe> site: not /atc
[12:32] <Inf3ctedFx> is /etc/apt  no atc
[12:32] <site> ow sorry
[12:32] <site> my bad
[12:32] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: well you told him /atc/apt :)
[12:32] <Inf3ctedFx> I did?
[12:32] <JoeBlow> i have xwine installed, is that the same thing as wine, as in what i need to run windows apps?
[12:32] <ompaul> Inf3ctedFx, you did first time out
[12:32] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: yeah: <Inf3ctedFx> site. open ur terminal and do " cd /atc/apt
[12:33] <olicat> any ideas how i use scp with a port forwarded ip? i'm trying -P but it just hangs for some reason
[12:33] <Inf3ctedFx> oppss  lol my bad
[12:33] <Inf3ctedFx> but I retype it again right xD
[12:33] <site> im there now :)
[12:33] <kemik> olicat:  if the PF is setup correctly, that's how you doit -P portnumber
[12:33] <JoeBlow> i have xwine installed, is that the same thing as wine, as in what i need to run windows apps?
[12:33] <Inf3ctedFx> ok now site  type "sudo gedit sources.list"
[12:34] <ompaul> ahh wrong again :)
[12:34] <olicat> kemik, yeah i think it's ok as i can ssh into the machine on that port
[12:34] <Inf3ctedFx> ompaul:  lol
[12:34] <ilba7r> I have a strange problem with cups-pdf. A file that is 77kb is brinted to be 5.8 MB. i had to print it in window and got 100 KB any one might now why cups-pdf explode the file sizes like that and is there a work around?
[12:34] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: please tell him to back it up before he starts messing with it
[12:34] <Inf3ctedFx> xwine?? well Is the first time I heard about xwine... xD
[12:34] <kemik> olicat:  then "scp username@host:dir destination -P portnumber" should work
[12:34] <SillyZ> quick q for anyone on hdparm, I have a 100gb drive that has an 8mb cache built in, is there anyway I can tell the hard drive to use that cache via hdparm?
[12:35] <Inf3ctedFx> mwe:  is just 2 lines on it
[12:35] <Ng> SillyZ: it should be using it anyway
[12:35] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh well u r right..
[12:35] <Inf3ctedFx> site: hold on
[12:35] <Inf3ctedFx> b4 u f#@% it up lol
[12:35] <wizardjames> yeah, SillyZ  it should automaticly use it..
[12:35] <Ng> SillyZ: generally you don't get to control a hard disk's cache usage
[12:35] <app> How do I know if my WLAN card is powerd or not? ethtools says "Link detected: no", ifconfig says it "UP". In Windows I will have to power it with a button, and there is a LED to tell the status, which is off now.
[12:35] <site> Inf3ctedFx,  didnt do nothing yet
[12:35] <SillyZ> Ng ok thanks, it just dosent feel like its moving at the right speed...
[12:36] <Ng> SillyZ: you may need to enable DMA then
[12:36] <JoeBlow> how do i run a program using wine, i cant find wine anywhere
[12:36] <JoeBlow> i installed xwine
[12:36] <SillyZ> aye Ive done -c1 -d1 /dev/hda so far
[12:36] <kemik> SillyZ:  the benefit of a 8mb cache or 2mb isnt *that* big
[12:36] <Ng> JoeBlow: xwine is just a configuration interface, you will need to install wine too
[12:36] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  do this  "sudo cp /apt/etc/sources.list /home/
[12:36] <SillyZ> kemik, its better than 0bytes cache
[12:36] <mwe> SillyZ: hdparm /dev/hda will show if dma is on
[12:37] <SillyZ> just trying to get the most out of my lil linux box here
[12:37] <SillyZ> k, thanks mwe
[12:37] <kemik> SillyZ:  yes, but dont think you'll actually notice the increase ;)
[12:37] <JoeBlow> damn, I cant find wine, i looked everywhere through  http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ and its just not their
[12:37] <kemik> it's down to benchmarking mostly :>
[12:37] <site> cp: cannot stat `/apt/etc/sources.list': Onbekend bestand of map
[12:38] <kemik> site:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:38] <JoeBlow> can someone else check deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ and tell me if they see wine
[12:38] <SillyZ> I belive this laptop is ata-66 only, anyone know if its possible to flash the firmware to accept ata-100? or this just a pipe dream?
[12:38] <Inf3ctedFx> site:  is the sources.list open?
[12:38] <Ng> SillyZ: that's pretty unlikely I'd think
[12:38] <ilba7r> site it is /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:38] <SillyZ> thats what I was thinkin
[12:39] <ilba7r> not apt/etc
[12:39] <SillyZ> ok thanks yall do appericate it
[12:39] <ilba7r> !tell site about repostories
[12:39] <ilba7r> !tell site about repos
[12:39] <Inf3ctedFx> site: remember linux is case sensitive really sensitive xD
[12:39] <olicat> has anyone ever used 'system rescue cd' for creating disk images?
[12:40] <Inf3ctedFx> also site  u can check this website:  -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:40] <site> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <site> doesnt work neither
[12:40] <Inf3ctedFx> hey guys what si the doference btween xwine and the regular wine?
[12:41] <Inf3ctedFx> site: copy this:  "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /home"
[12:41] <sypho> yo mensen
[12:41] <site> hm nothing happens
[12:41] <site> ey man
[12:41] <sypho> linux is zalig maar moeilijk om onder de knie te krijgen
[12:42] <BurgerX40> hi, i upgraded to breezy (thru synaptics) and I am having random mouse freeze, only the mouse pointer freezes (usb) and when I switch to console and back to X the mouse moves again, is this a known problem ?
[12:42] <Inf3ctedFx> nothing is gonna happen site  what r u doing with that commando is copy ur sources.list to ur home directory in case something goes wrong
[12:42] <site> ah Ok
[12:42] <Seveas> sypho, zelfde geldt voor windows. Bij de weg, dit kanaal is engels, nederlands kun je spreken in  #ubuntu-nl
[12:43] <eth42> can someone explain the difference between breezy-updates and breezy-security to me?
[12:43] <munzir> Hi sirs, how can I check whether someone is blocking my ip to send mails to their server?
[12:43] <Seveas> eth42, -security contains security updates -updates contains other updates
[12:44] <mwe> munzir: telnet server.com 25
[12:45] <eth42> Seveas, my /etc/apt/sources.list seems to be a bit messed up: the comments just before the breezy-updates lines say something of major security fixes
[12:45] <eth42> the comments before deb-src breezy state something about updated software...
[12:45] <mwe> munzir: see if you get connection refused
[12:45] <site> Inf3ctedFx,  u got msn?
[12:45] <site> cos i need to go3
[12:46] <Inf3ctedFx> yes site :  inf3ctedfx@gmail.com
[12:46] <eth42> Seveas, (and I've never manually edited that file)
[12:48] <site> cyall
[12:48] <anonym001> when i start wine i get some errors.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6587
[12:49] <Inf3ctedFx> hey guys there is anyway u can write on ntfs partition???
[12:50] <crimsun> Inf3ctedFx: not by default, no.
[12:50] <crimsun> you might try searching the forum for options like captive or newer libntfs.
[12:50] <mwe> how come everytime I log on to icq with kopete it gives me the error "you are not allowed to add yourself to the contact list" ?
[12:50] <Inf3ctedFx> oks
[12:50] <crimsun> mwe: that's probably a limitation of Kopete
[12:51] <hhurtta> anonym001: have you installed Weaverslave using wine?
[12:51] <anonym001> no
[12:51] <puro> i just installed ubuntu i have a 80gb harddrive 74 of it usable-it says i have 66.25gb left-that means ubuntu installation is almost 10gbs is this normal
[12:51] <mwe> crimsun: yeah. I didn't tell it to try to add myself to the conact list though. and I can't find any setting for it.
[12:51] <hhurtta> well you should
[12:51] <anonym001> hhurtta, this happens even without parameters
[12:52] <crimsun> puro: depends how the partitions are configured. Don't forget that you have a swap partition, too.
[12:52] <crimsun> (unless you explicitly disabled it during installation)
[12:53] <JoeBlow> does anyone here run wine on 64 bit ubuntu, i cant seem to get it to work on 64 bit
[12:53] <puro> well i erased everything on the harddrive i wanted a clean installation of buntu im making it my primary os on my laptop-what do you mean by swap partition?
[12:53] <crimsun> JoeBlow: there are bound to be hints on the forum
[12:53] <puro> how can i get all available space back into the drive
[12:53] <TengkSA> Hi All
[12:53] <Myrtti> you need a swap partition
[12:54] <puro> so a swap partition is needed
[12:54] <TengkSA> what is the line you type when you want to change main settings with windows in Run
[12:54] <Nyven> mwe: ok, I have found the problem....
[12:54] <puro> any how tos on how to tweak ubuntu? free space etc
[12:54] <TengkSA> Like Boot and startup settings
[12:54] <mwe> Nyven: what was it?
[12:54] <crimsun> puro: what's the output in a Terminal from ``mount |head -1'' ?
[12:54] <hhurtta> anonym001: configure wine to use something like ~/.wine/c_drive as C-drive and then install the program (weaverslave)
[12:55] <hhurtta> using wine
[12:55] <Nyven> I am using a KVM, when I plug a screen directly intot he pc and boot it it works, but when I use the kvm, it doesn't work
[12:55] <hone> I'm having problems booting into my custom kernel on my desktop, it gives me the kernel panic vfs error
[12:55] <hhurtta> even this doesn't guarantee that it will actually work :/
[12:55] <anonym001> ok
[12:55] <TengkSA> ANYONE?
[12:55] <puro> crimsun, do i have to type that in terminal?
[12:55] <Nyven> mwe: after the bios screen, the grub text menu come up and it boot normally...
[12:56] <Myrtti> TengkSA: msconfig?
[12:56] <mwe> Nyven: ok. great
[12:56] <crimsun> puro: well yes, that's why I asked...
[12:56] <TengkSA> THANK YOU!!
[12:56] <Myrtti> np
[12:56] <puro> ok sorry hold on let me check
[12:56] <Nyven> mwe: so it seem the grub might have abug there
[12:57] <TengkSA> what is the site for recovering ubuntu after installing windows
[12:57] <Nyven> mwe: it seems to not be able to detect the correct settings on this KVM with
[12:57] <alexissoft> hi
[12:57] <anonym001> hhurtta, maybee you can say me where i can find the configuration file?
[12:57] <mwe> Nyven: yeah. that'll not be the first grub bug.
[12:57] <apokryphos> TengkSA: /msg ubotu grub
[12:57] <Nyven> mwe: although other machine I have installed worked without any issues...
[12:58] <Nyven> :)
[12:58] <anonym001> or how to find out myself..
[12:58] <mwe> Nyven: really. I heard a lot about grub not being that great
[12:58] <olicat> any ideas what software i can use for creating hd images and moving them using scp/
[12:58] <hhurtta> anonym001: probably in .wine
[12:58] <olicat> i'm trying systemrescue cd, but it doesn't boot for some reason
[12:59] <Nyven> mwe: it does seem a lot better then lilo though
[12:59] <kemik> olicat:  got scp working now?
[12:59] <puro> i typed it in but nothing happens
[12:59] <mwe> Nyven: yeah
[12:59] <olicat> kemik, yeah i had to use scp from outside the network :)
[12:59] <Inf3ctedFx> any phone internet services beside Skype and Gizmo Project?
[12:59] <puro> it says invalid option
[12:59] <kemik> olicat:  yeah.. or use the real port inside the network
[12:59] <puro> mount [head-1] 
[12:59] <crimsun> puro: don't type the `s or 's; I use those to indicate a command that you should type in a Terminal
[12:59] <puro> is that it?
[01:00] <crimsun> puro: no, type precisely what I put in the `s and 's
[01:00] <Nyven> mwe: thank you very much for all the help
[01:00] <crimsun> puro: mount |head -1
[01:00] <hhurtta> anonym001: if i recall correctly wine will create a configuration template by itself it doesnt find it
[01:00] <ompaul> crimsun, I find that >>>foo<<< tends to get people to do the right thing :-)
[01:01] <anonym001> hmm
[01:01] <ilba7r> inf2ctedfx look up qnext but you can not use it for pc to phone only audio vedio conf and file sharing
[01:02] <munzir> mwe: no I don't get connect refused but still my maillog shows stat=Service
[01:02] <munzir> unavailable
[01:02] <puro> /dev/hda1 on /type ext (rw,errors=remount-ro) this is what i get
[01:03] <crimsun> puro: ok, now pastebin the output from ``sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda''
[01:03] <IgorVovchanchin> Can someone help me with problem considering compiling sources?
[01:04] <puro> ok one sec
[01:04] <hhurtta> IgorVovchanchin: tell your problem and we'll see :)
[01:04] <IgorVovchanchin> I've done as the manual suggested, and ran ./configure in order to configure the compile, and then simply inputting "make" (as manual suggests), but it keeps yelling me something about "No makefile found", or "No rule to make file" or something
[01:05] <IgorVovchanchin> after running the configures, it says at the bottom of the check list, that c++ compiler cannot make executables, and I've already installed gcc
[01:05] <crimsun> IgorVovchanchin: you need to install 'build-essential'
[01:05] <IgorVovchanchin> ok
[01:06] <puro> o.k i posted it under the name Puro
[01:07] <puro> another thing is my laptop have a built in media card reader and is not working anyway to get that fixed?
[01:07] <IgorVovchanchin> Now it yelled something about "Qt's moc not found"...is that something crucial?
[01:08] <crimsun> puro: ok, so you have 2 GB swap partition
[01:08] <IgorVovchanchin> And it still cannot seem to find the makefile to be made
[01:08] <puro> do i need them?
[01:08] <crimsun> puro: now pastebin the output from ``df -h''
[01:08] <Seveas> !tell IgorVovchanchin about compiling
[01:08] <hhurtta> IgorVovchanchin: you're missing qt:s dev packages
[01:08] <crimsun> puro: the media card reader may be supported; look on the forum
[01:08] <IgorVovchanchin> hhurtta, where do I get them?
[01:08] <Seveas> IgorVovchanchin, read what ubotu sent you
[01:09] <IgorVovchanchin> ok
[01:09] <hhurtta> try synaptic :)
[01:09] <teunnijssen_>  /msg nickserv link teunnijssen teun*zelf
[01:09] <Seveas> teunnijssen_, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[01:09] <puro> ok i posted it-i have searched the forums but i have not found any kind of solution for the media reader
[01:10] <hhurtta> !tell me about compiling
[01:10] <hhurtta> hmm.
[01:10] <hhurtta> !tell hhurtta about compiling
[01:10] <Seveas> hhurtta, /msg ubotu compiling
[01:10] <vik> I've just recovered from a major HD failure, moved my (hopefully not too corrupted) data onto another drive, reinstalled grub, and now the boot process hangs when trying to load modules.
[01:10] <hhurtta> Seveas: ubotu already told me :)
[01:10] <crimsun> puro: 1.8 GB used. That looks just dandy.
[01:12] <puro> ok so ubuntu used only 1.8gb for the entire installation? theres like 8gb missing am i right? since i have a 80gb
[01:12] <nathanj> whats the osx like launch bar for linux called?
[01:12] <wizardjames> puro
[01:12] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows what is Linspire?
[01:12] <aftertaf> nathanj:  engage  (e17)
[01:12] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, a crappy linux distro that does not care about security
[01:12] <puro> yes
[01:12] <wizardjames> if u have a 80 gig hdd, only around 75-70 us REAL useable.  i got a 250 gig hdd and i only got 232 gigs useable
[01:13] <Inf3ctedFx> oks Seveas  xD
[01:13] <puro> ok cool thanks alot
[01:13] <puro> now to find how to get my card reader working
[01:13] <puro> and how to run on the light on my wifi button
[01:13] <strider> So who's compiled the new kernel ;)
[01:13] <puro> i have a long way to go
[01:14] <nathanj> aftertaf: what about for gnome?
[01:14] <app> I just ran updatedb, but I still can not locate NTFS files on /media/hda1, why?
[01:14] <wizardjames> !mount nfts
[01:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, wizardjames
[01:14] <wizardjames> blah
[01:15] <selinium> I have been waiting for some updates to show their changes for about a week now, as far as I can see I have nothing strange in my repos.  The change versions look strange as well. 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1  appears on all the upgrades without a change record. All updates regard php.
[01:15] <puro> what is the best wireless network manager for ubuntu?
[01:15] <nathanj> aftertaf: is there a e17 deb soucre?
[01:16] <BockBilbo> !Linspire
[01:16] <ubotu> No idea, BockBilbo
[01:16] <app> wizardjames, my ntfs disk is perfectly browsable and mounted
[01:16] <ompaul> nathanj, >>sudo apt-get source foo<< as long a you have the repos enabled
[01:17] <app> !mount nfs
[01:17] <ubotu> Not a clue, app
[01:17] <ompaul> !nfs
[01:17] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:17] <Nyven> has anyone had a problem with qpopper , where all messages are duplicated when retrived fro the pop3 account?
[01:17] <nathanj> ompaul: i wanbt a src :)
[01:17] <zorba64> !ntfs
[01:17] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:18] <ompaul> nathanj, enable the repos to do so - use syanptic to do it
[01:18] <app> !mount ntfs
[01:18] <ubotu> app: Not a clue
[01:18] <ompaul> app, !ntfs
[01:18] <app> !ntfs
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:18] <nathanj> ompaul: i am lookinf for a repos address :)
[01:19] <hhurtta> nice flooding, app :)
[01:19] <ompaul> nathanj, it is the same as you have but the source one - read your sources.list deb-src instead of deb at the line for the repo
[01:19] <vik> I've moved ubuntu from one drive to another, though have kept the root partition on hda2 after the move. I've moved the swap from hda3 to hda5, and hda3 is an extended partition. Now I get a kernel panic mentioning hda3 (entire message is pasted on pastebin). ideas?
[01:20] <bgrah> someone here who knows how to use nic with EEPROM to boot over network from an LTSP
[01:20] <Myrtti> which pastebin
[01:20] <vik> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:20] <selinium> Seveas, Can you comment on my package problem, as you know the motu better than me? :)
[01:21] <usuario1> Hola... Hay alguien aqu?
[01:21] <selinium> usuario1, !es
[01:21] <selinium> !es
[01:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:22] <Nyven> Which popper is the best to use with ubunto, i see that qpopper is not one of the default ones...
[01:22] <usuario1> Alguien que hable castellano?
[01:22] <zorba64> vik: can you post your fstab too?
[01:23] <selinium> ajmitch: Can you answer my package problem, being the motu guru that you are? :)
[01:23] <roland> help please.. on my fujitsu-siemens Amilo A-series laptop with ATI IGP 320 motherboard-integrated graphics, when i install Kubuntu (or Ubuntu) 5.10 all goes well until the X server/gdm must start and then the screen goes black and nothing happens.. I cant even kill the x server i must restart the computer.I tried to boot in text-mode recovery and tried to start the x server from the prompt and it said: cannot start x server: missing output drive
[01:23] <roland> so i cant use X
[01:23] <vik> zorba64: umm, in windows right now; that might be tricky - I'm pretty certain there's nothing pointing to any untoward devices
[01:24] <anonym001> hhurtta, i just discoverd the tool winecfg .. but it crashes like wine, too :(
[01:24] <Nyven> roland: I saw some stuff regarding X and laptops on the FAQ on the ubunto help pages
[01:24] <usuario1> Me he equivocado de chat o es que los que hablan castellano estn equivocados?
[01:24] <apokryphos> usuario1: this is quite clearly an English-speaking channel.
[01:24] <ompaul> roland, when the machine boots to the black screen press Ctrl+Alt+F1 at the same time log in there - at the command line type the following command >>>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<< that may help some
[01:25] <ompaul> !es
[01:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:25] <ompaul> usuario1,  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^66
[01:25] <vik> what's the nicest ext2 reader for windows 2000?
[01:25] <selinium> anonym001, hhurtta I used the wiki to install wine, it worked. But i have also used crossover office to install windows apps aswell. But Crossover Office isn't free but you do get a 30 day trail.
[01:25] <usuario1> ubotu, por favor, me podras decir como hago para sar ubuntu-es como chat.
[01:25] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, usuario1
[01:26] <anonym001> selinium, i have done what the wiki says ..
[01:26] <Hendikins> selinium: You can use it for free if you become a CW advocate though, which is nice of them.
[01:26] <ompaul> usuario1,     >>>>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<<<<<<<
[01:27] <selinium> Hendikins, Thanks for the pointer! :)
[01:27] <Hendikins> selinium: I'm a paying customer and an advocate. Just another way my Firefox involvement ties in elsewhere.
[01:28] <zorba64> vik: explore2fs works well
[01:28] <selinium> Hendikins, Cool,  I must admit the only reason I use Crossover is for testing on IE. As soon as everyone is using a sensible browser I will be rid of it! :)
[01:28] <Seveas> !no ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com.
[01:28] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:28] <Seveas> It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[01:28] <Seveas> !no ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[01:28] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:28] <Hendikins> selinium: heh.
[01:30] <Hendikins> selinium: I do user support for one so-called "sensible" browser. It is a real eye opener :P
[01:31] <selinium> Hendikins, FF is the way to go for me :)
[01:31] <viyyer> I did a apt-dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy using the brezy install CD , my mozilla thuder bird and firefox text rendering has completely borked
[01:31] <policrates> hola
[01:32] <viyyer> s/apt-dist-upgrade/apt-get dist-upgrade breezy
[01:32] <selinium> !es
[01:32] <policrates> alguien sabe si el edubuntu esta en espaol
[01:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:32] <Seveas> policrates, #edubuntu-es
[01:32] <policrates> gracias
[01:33] <vik> zorba64: have pasted fstab to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6592.
[01:33] <lioda> Hi
[01:33] <selinium> Seveas, Maybe change the !es to include the edubuntu one?
[01:33] <apokryphos> selinium: go for it
[01:33] <selinium> apokryphos, I dont know how! :)
[01:34] <lioda> I would like to know if somebody have a problem of refresh with background under Drake PPC ?
[01:34] <selinium> apokryphos, Just looking...
[01:34] <vik> zorba64: but the scary thing is that explore2fs things hda3 is an ext3 partition. I think I used parted to create them.
[01:34] <lioda> And gnome
[01:34] <apokryphos> selinium: /msg ubotu help  ...on how to add factoids. To alter them, simply follow the form   "no, x is somethingelse"
[01:34] <Seveas> !es =~ s/ o #kubuntu-es/, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es/
[01:34] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[01:35] <apokryphos> selinium: don't ruin it for him!
[01:35] <apokryphos> *Seveas
[01:35] <selinium> Seveas, got there first! :)
[01:36] <selinium> As always.... lol
[01:36] <JoeBlow> in case anyone cares, i got wine installed, the problem was, it just wont do it under 64 bit ubuntu
[01:36] <apokryphos> it is possible, but ubuntu packs just weren't built for it
[01:36] <Myrridin> Does anyone had success installing Breezy or dapper on a HP Pavillion AMD64 system using S-ATA disks(more specific, t3260.se model)? For me it does not find S-ATA disks. Even when loading correct S-ATA module.
[01:37] <zorba64> vik: what is hda3 supposed to be...the partition tabls sounds like it might be screwed
[01:37] <anonym001> how to find out which ubuntu version i do have ?
[01:37] <vik> zorba64: hda3 is the extended partition holding hda5 hda6 and hda7
[01:37] <mwe> anonym001: cat /etc/issue
[01:37] <anonym001> ty
[01:37] <Seveas> anonym001, cat /etc/lsb-release
[01:38] <zorba64> vik: does sudo cfdisk give you a table printout?
[01:38] <taomaster> is there a way to auto-install java?
[01:38] <apokryphos> taomaster: /msg ubotu javadebs
[01:38] <zorba64> !java
[01:38] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:39] <vik> zorba64: gonna have to reboot - is there anything else I should try while in linux-land?
[01:39] <zorba64> vik: sudo cfdisk
[01:40] <amin2> Hi, anyone with Ubutnu+NFS experince?
[01:40] <lowman62> does anyone in here know about gateway profile 2 computers, intel onboard network cards with pci bridges and what you need to do to get them to work with ubuntu?
[01:40] <amin2> I'm using Ubuntu with Fedora Core as NFS server, add faced some probs
[01:40] <lowman62> any help would be appreciated :)
[01:41] <JoeBlow> lowman62: I have had no luck with that, my wife had that as well and it just didnt work, we ended up buying a 10 dollar nic and it worked fine
[01:42] <davidwinter> hi all. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop. My internal CD drive is busted, so I've bought an external CD-drive (USB2). I'm trying to boot the CD, but nothings happening. My Windows install is broke, so I'm just left with 'Error loading operating system' all the time.
[01:42] <davidwinter> Any suggestions?
[01:42] <lowman62> ya that is what i am afraid of...i never bought this thing...would never be so lame...was tossed in my lap...anyways thank you i appreciate the help very much
[01:43] <mwe> davidwinter: but the drive works. it just can't boot? if so use boot floppies
[01:44] <davidwinter> I don't haveafloppy drive on the laptop :(
[01:44] <davidwinter> yeah, the external drive works fine.
[01:44] <mwe> davidwinter: you need a bootable device
[01:44] <davidwinter> in the bios, I have 'removable drives' set as the first boot item
[01:45] <mwe> davidwinter: it's not unusual for usb drives to be unbootable
[01:45] <davidwinter> :( damn.
[01:45] <davidwinter> hmmm...
[01:45] <davidwinter> how about an iPod Nano?
[01:45] <Nyven> I just installed qpopper and I can't connect to port 110
[01:45] <Nyven> it is in the inetd.conf
[01:46] <Nyven> and i have ALL: qpopper in my host.allow...
[01:46] <davidwinter> besides my iPod, I don't have any other devices I can think of to use
[01:46] <Nyven> what i am missing ?
[01:46] <aftertaf> nathanj:  sort of...
[01:46] <davidwinter> unless I buy a bootable usb cd-drive somewhere
[01:46] <aftertaf> nathanj:  for the e thing (like 3 hours later ... ;)   )
[01:47] <mwe> Nyven: maybe a firewall issue?
[01:47] <Nyven> no fw installed yet
[01:47] <Nyven> i am trying to telnet to 0.0.0.0 110
[01:47] <spiekey> hello!
[01:47] <Ng> Nyven: 0.0.0.0?
[01:47] <ompaul> !hello
[01:47] <spiekey> is there a way to change a existing debian installation to ubuntu?
[01:47] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue
[01:47] <Ng> that's not really a valid IP address ;)
[01:48] <Nyven> I also tried 127.0.0.1 and the static IP
[01:48] <ompaul> Nyven, 127.0.0.1 is your own machine
[01:48] <Nyven> I usually use 0.0.0.0 and it works
[01:48] <davidwinter> is it possible that I could install ubuntu over my network?
[01:48] <Nyven> it works is I telnet 0.0.0.0 25
[01:48] <Ng> Nyven: if you can't even connect to port 110 on 127.0.0.1 then I would suggest that the pop3 server isn't running on your machine
[01:48] <aftertaf> spiekey:  possibly. change the sources.list to ubuntu & update
[01:49] <JoeBlow> ok i installed wine, now how do it use?
[01:49] <JoeBlow> do i use it*
[01:49] <ompaul> spiekey, what version of debian is it?
[01:49] <aftertaf> lol JoeBlow you read the webpage...
[01:49] <aftertaf> JoeBlow:  better to use linux than windows/wine though!
[01:49] <pi9inE> hi all
[01:49] <pi9inE> may I have question
[01:50] <aftertaf> top of the new year to ya ompaul :] 
[01:50] <GoGi> How can I build all the ubuntu packages from source?
[01:50] <ompaul> !ask
[01:50] <wizardjames> i just installed apache and mysql.    now..i am wondering what would be the ftp stuff to look into the files?
[01:50] <mwe> Nyven: is the qpopper daemon running?
[01:50] <ompaul> !tell pi9inE about ask
[01:50] <pi9inE> ok, I got laptop and 2 partions on it
[01:50] <pi9inE> at 1st is WIN XP
[01:50] <Seveas> GoGi, why would you want that?
[01:50] <pi9inE> if I format 2nd one with FAT32
[01:50] <pi9inE> will be possible to
[01:50] <ompaul> pi9inE, put it all on one line please
[01:50] <pi9inE> to install ubuntu there?
[01:50] <spiekey> aftertaf: possibly?
[01:50] <pi9inE> ompaul: i'm sorry
[01:50] <aftertaf> pi9inE:  no! ext 2/3
[01:50] <Seveas> pi9inE, no, ubuntu will not install on fat32
[01:50] <ompaul> aftertaf, same to u
[01:51] <spiekey> ompaul: its sarge
[01:51] <mwe> Nyven: sudo netstat -ntlp to confirm it's running on port 110
[01:51] <pi9inE> Seveas: how then?
[01:51] <Seveas> pi9inE, ext3
[01:51] <EerieShadow> hi and happy new year
[01:51] <Nyven> mwe: not there...
[01:51] <Nyven> mwe: it is in the inetd.conf thought...
[01:51] <mwe> Nyven: then that's the problem. it's not running
[01:51] <pi9inE> Seveas: I'm sorry, I'm noob, can you inform me a lil bit more?
[01:51] <ompaul> spiekey, yeap it should work, dist-upgrade to breezy
[01:52] <spiekey> ompaul: by just changing the sources?
[01:52] <Seveas> pi9inE, ext3 is a filesystem format like fat32, linux uses ext3
[01:52] <ompaul> spiekey, it should
[01:52] <pi9inE> Seveas: ok and will linux create it by itself when I will insert boot CD?
[01:52] <ompaul> spiekey, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:52] <mwe> Nyven: nothing is on port 110 ?
[01:52] <Seveas> pi9inE, yes
[01:52] <EerieShadow> what would a very good project management app be in ubuntu?
[01:52] <pi9inE> Seveas: OK, thanks
[01:52] <chp> excuse me, after I compiled emacs 21.4, why can't I have a X window frame?
[01:53] <apokryphos> does anyone have any idea for why apache would be trying to send packets to 127.0.0.1?
[01:53] <Nyven> mwe: nope, thing
[01:53] <mwe> EerieShadow: what kind of project?
[01:53] <ompaul> apokryphos, cache
[01:53] <vik> zorba64: (c)fdisk runs fine.
[01:53] <Nyven> mwe: i also can't find an init.d script for inetd
[01:53] <apokryphos> snort considers it "offensive" (and the network I'm on uses snort), so it has bad consequences for me.. i.e. me getting banned
[01:53] <EerieShadow> consulting
[01:53] <Seveas> apokryphos, because you connected to localhost?
[01:53] <GoGi> Seveas: To be able to continue or at least pass ubuntu on after I'm the only survivor of some nuclear war or whatever
[01:53] <Seveas> hehe
[01:53] <mwe> Nyven: qpopper probably provides an /etc/init.d/ script
[01:53] <apokryphos> ompaul: it uses it to build a cache?
[01:53] <Seveas> GoGi, apt-get build-dep $package && apt-get -b source $package
[01:54] <EerieShadow> mwe: for consulting if possible
[01:54] <apokryphos> Seveas: huh? Why would it need to use that? I've just heard that kubuntu/debian sometimes misconfigures lo so apache/sendmail send packs to 127.0.0.1, too
[01:54] <ompaul> apokryphos, are you using it for a proxy or cache or something like that
[01:54] <chp> excuse me, after I compiled emacs 21.4, why can't I have a X window frame????
[01:54] <apokryphos> how can I disable it?
[01:54] <pi9inE> Seveas: and if I will decide later to format my HDD to normal NTFS for windows only, will Windows bootable cd recognize that linux partion?
[01:54] <apokryphos> it'd be nice to run apache here
[01:54] <puro> can somebody please help me with finding out how to have my wifi led on-
[01:54] <apokryphos> ompaul: nope, just a http server.
[01:54] <ompaul> apokryphos, then no idea
[01:54] <wizardjames> after installing apache, how would someone look at my files with ftp?
[01:55] <Seveas> pi9inE, no idea
[01:55] <Seveas> wizardjames, not
[01:55] <Seveas> apache is not an ftp server
[01:55] <flogiston> I installed Xfce and now i don't need gnome anymore. Is there any risk to uninstall the gnome-desktop?
[01:55] <pi9inE> anyone got idea if it will?
[01:55] <wizardjames> well..   what is?
[01:55] <googlah> can somebody please answer a quick question about ndiswrapper?
[01:55] <pi9inE> it's quite important to me, to know
[01:55] <Seveas> flogiston, no
[01:55] <Nyven> mwe: Nope, no qpopper script either, it looks like qpopper only appended an entry to the inetd.conf and that is why the file exists. I will have a look and see it inetd is actually installed.
[01:55] <Seveas> wizardjames, vsftpd
[01:55] <flogiston> Okey then il go fore that.
[01:55] <voicu> Hi, I accidentally chowned /etc/sudoers to another user. Now sudo doesn't work, it says /etc/sudoers should have UID 0. su also doesn't work. Can someone help me, please?
[01:55] <apokryphos> Seveas: any ideas? :)
[01:56] <Seveas> voicu, boot into recovery mode, change it back
[01:56] <ompaul> EerieShadow, there is something called mrproject I have not tried it - supposed to be for gnome on mrproject.codefactory.se
[01:56] <mwe> Nyven: yeah. if not I think it's a bug it's not brougt in as a dependency
[01:56] <voicu> Thanks Seveas
[01:56] <ompaul> EerieShadow, as for good or bad no idea
[01:56] <Nyven> which is better xinetd or plain inetd ?
[01:56] <Seveas> apokryphos, it's due to unaligned electrons in the main conductor of the central MMU
[01:56] <Ng> xinetd is more configurable, but more complpex
[01:56] <EerieShadow> thank you ompaul
[01:56] <Seveas> (/me practices bofh skills)
[01:57] <mwe> Nyven: xinetd imo
[01:57] <ompaul> EerieShadow,  sudo apt-get install mrproject
[01:57] <apokryphos> 8)
[01:57] <EerieShadow> ;-)
[01:57] <ompaul> EerieShadow, i.e. it is build for ubuntu
[01:57] <chp> excuse me, after I compiled emacs 21.4, why can't I have a X window frame????
[01:57] <ompaul> EerieShadow, I need some of that myself :-) thanks for reminding me
[01:58] <ompaul> chp, why not just install it?
[01:58] <Nyven> mmm, looks like qpopper doesn't have inetd as a dependancy so it never gets installed
[01:58] <apokryphos> Seveas: nevermind, know how I could make an iptables rule to block all outgoing traffic to 127.0.0.1?
[01:58] <chp> I don't have a good access to the internet
[01:58] <Seveas> apokryphos, man iptables :)
[01:58] <ompaul> chp, got the disks?
[01:59] <Pygi> Seveas: what's the issue with iptables?
[01:59] <chp> is there an emacs package in Ubuntu CD?
[01:59] <EerieShadow> ompaul: it requires the Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy Badger
[01:59] <mwe> apokryphos: I'm not sure blocking all trafic to 127.0.0.1 is a good idea
[01:59] <EerieShadow> cdrom!
[01:59] <davidwinter> are there ati catalyst drivers for ubuntu
[01:59] <Pygi> david: no, but./....
[01:59] <Pygi> !ati
[01:59] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[02:00] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[02:00] <apokryphos> mwe: why? I wouldn't want any outgoing traffic on eth0 to 127.0.0.1 -- produces loopback traffic
[02:00] <gimmulf> !apache
[02:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:00] <ompaul> EerieShadow, # out the first line in the file with the command >>>sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list<<< save and run >>sudo apt-get update<< then you can do the install  over the internet
[02:00] <apokryphos> man iptables is a nie 1005 page document :P. Nevermind; trusty Ctrl+F.
[02:01] <ompaul> chp, there should be let me look
[02:01] <wizardjames> ok, how do i get this vsftpd thing working now?
[02:01] <chp> thank you
[02:01] <mwe> acidrainy: if you want to break loopback, just bring down the lo interface
[02:01] <Pygi> apokryphos: what's 1005 pages? :) Like 1 hour reading? :)
[02:01] <apokryphos> mwe: admittedly, I'm  not entirely sure if apache would completely function correctly; ideally I'd want to configure this from apache, but that might have to wait.
[02:01] <ompaul> chp,  there is emacs21 - The GNU Emacs editor in main so it is on the CD
[02:02] <Seveas> ompaul, no it's not on the cd
[02:02] <apokryphos> Pygi: who knows. You read it and I'll time you ;-)
[02:02] <chp> should I install with "sudo apt-get install emacs"?
[02:02] <ompaul> chp, sorry appears I am wrong
[02:02] <Seveas> the thing is 40mb, that's far too big for an 'editor' to be on the cd
[02:02] <mwe> apokryphos: I'm not a network geek, but AFAIK many network programs rely on lo
[02:02] <Pygi> apokryphos: hehe :)
[02:02] <ompaul> chp, I would say so, know anyone with broadband and a cd burner?
[02:03] <apokryphos> mwe: yup, I would've thought that if lo was setup correctly (with 127.0.0.1 assigned) that I wouldn't have this problem, but hey.
[02:03] <JockeTF> hello
[02:03] <app> Sudo remembers my password for 15 minutes by default, but how can I make that globally available, so that not every new shell or windows asks it again?
[02:03] <damotor> Hello. I'm having trouble with a firewire camcoder: it works perfect in kino but there's no way to make it work in Mercury
[02:03] <ompaul> chp, get them to download it for you
[02:03] <EerieShadow> ompaul: it worked, thanx
[02:03] <Pygi> !sudo
[02:03] <ubotu> [root]  by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[02:03] <chp> download what?
[02:03] <slept> can i download a kernel patched with suspend2 somwhere for amd64, or do i have to build my own ? is there a ubuntu patch for suspend ?
[02:03] <Seveas> app, !tty in the /etc/sudoers Defaults
[02:03] <chp> source code? or .deb?
[02:03] <app> !sudo
[02:03] <ompaul> chp, .deb
[02:03] <voicu> Seveas: it asks me for the root password but it doesn't accept it
[02:03] <chp> Ok, thank you
[02:04] <Pygi> voicu: what seems to be the issues?
[02:04] <Pygi> apokryphos: ok, but can I skip some pages? :)
[02:04] <wizardjames> 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket is the error i get when i run vsftpd
[02:04] <apokryphos> Pygi: it's all one page, so no 8)
[02:04] <Seveas> voicu, what asks?
[02:04] <Pygi> apokryphos: well ,I'll skip the parts I know :)
[02:04] <voicu> Seveas: when I boot in recovery mode
[02:05] <Seveas> then enter ypour root password...
[02:05] <voicu> I did
[02:05] <voicu> But I never actually set it
[02:05] <Seveas> if you didn't set it, Ubuntu will not ask for it
[02:06] <voicu> But it does
[02:06] <Seveas> then you have set a root password :)
[02:06] <ompaul> voicu, so you did set it or you used automatiz or something like that
[02:06] <voicu> Isn't there like a default root password?
[02:06] <ompaul> voicu, are you on a live CD?
[02:06] <apokryphos> voicu: /msg ubotu rootsudo
[02:06] <Seveas> voicu, no there isn't
[02:07] <voicu> ompaul: no, i'm not
[02:07] <ompaul> voicu, then there is nothing other than one you or someone else set on that machine
[02:07] <EerieShadow> is there some kind of way to incorporate the project management to the email client (thunderbird prefferably)?
[02:08] <taomaster> do u think maybe they'll have java installed with the next release?
[02:08] <EerieShadow> also is there a project management app that is also online?
[02:08] <aftertaf> taomaster:  legal reasons mean no, probably
[02:08] <Seveas> taomaster, apt-get install j2sdk-1.4
[02:08] <voicu> ompaul: then the root password should be mine, right? That's what I used to type for sudo...
[02:08] <taomaster> i can not install java- i keep getting errors
[02:08] <Seveas> it's there already, in multiverse
[02:08] <Pygi> !java
[02:08] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:08] <EerieShadow> something like CRM ? (I am not sure if it is called that)
[02:08] <Pygi> !javedebs
[02:08] <ubotu> Pygi: Are you smoking crack?
[02:09] <taomaster> hehe
[02:09] <Pygi> !javadebs
[02:09] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:09] <Pygi> ubotu, shut up :/
[02:09] <ubotu> Not a clue, Pygi
[02:09] <ompaul> voicu, yes
[02:09] <ilba7r> voicu do you have the installation cd
[02:09] <encompass> hi everyone
[02:09] <taomaster> i'm just an x-windows retard
[02:09] <gimmulf> How do i make apache2 start on startup instead of apache?
[02:09] <voicu> ilba7r, yes
[02:09] <Seveas> gimmulf, don't install apache :)
[02:10] <ompaul> taomaster, should your name be zenwindows
[02:10] <ompaul> gimmulf, apache is 1.3 by default
[02:10] <encompass> when I have used my account, I log out, and anyone tries to login the can't it never reaches the splash screen of gnome...  I have trying killling the gnome-panel but to no avail... any other ideas?
[02:10] <gimmulf> Seveas:  does it start apache2 by default then? :)
[02:10] <DevGet> Isn't it possible to resize a ntfs partition with gparted?
[02:10] <ilba7r> voicu you might try booting the installation cd at the boot <start> boot type rescue. will take you inrescue mode and then you can access your files. PS do not be scared by the installation steps
[02:10] <utada> hello, i can't seem to make gnome put my display to sleep after a few mins, how do i do it?
[02:10] <ompaul> gimmulf, install apache2 if that is what you want
[02:11] <yosef> Can someone help me figuring out the correct syntex to get filenames in hebrew to appear correctly?
[02:11] <voicu> ilba7r: yeah, good idea, thanks
[02:11] <ilba7r> voicu so basically put it in and at boot prompt type rescue and follow the screen
[02:11] <encompass> utada: you mean, power off your moniter?
[02:11] <ilba7r> :)
[02:11] <app> Thx, Seveas, the parameter to force per-windows password check in sudo is actually !tty_tickets, which is in /etc/sudoers by default in 5.10 and I removed it to guard my precious password for extensive repeats on the keyboard ;-)
[02:11] <utada> not really
[02:11] <utada> i mean make it "sleep"
[02:11] <moo_> can someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:11] <utada> not turn it off, but put it in sleep mode
[02:11] <utada> where the light is blinking
[02:11] <utada> if you know what i mean
[02:12] <encompass> utada: yeah
[02:12] <utada> power saving mode i guess
[02:12] <yosef> Can someone help me figuring out the correct syntex to get filenames in hebrew to appear correctly?
[02:12] <taomaster> i use suse and have no issues- just really like ubuntu,but having issues installing java
[02:12] <utada> how do i do it?
[02:12] <encompass> utada: system, preferences, screensaver
[02:12] <tRSS> I ripped a lot of tracks from CDs a few weeks back. Now I can't tell which track belongs to which artist, songs, etc. Is there a software out there they can download or determine the song by analyzing the audio itself? I have heard of musicbrainz. Is this the software I am looking for?
[02:12] <encompass> the settings are there
[02:12] <encompass> have you played with that
[02:13] <encompass> tRSS: why didn't you have that in the first place?
[02:13] <moo_> will someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:13] <lucasvo> is there any php5-pear package in ubuntu?
[02:13] <encompass> tRSS: like, did you not use your interent connection before that?
[02:13] <Pygi> !bug
[02:13] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[02:13] <lucasvo> I can't find it in universe
[02:13] <spiekey> where can i get the ubuntu64Bit Server sources?
[02:13] <tRSS> encompass: ? I am lost??
[02:13] <spiekey> the sources.list i mean
[02:13] <app> What do you say about this, my log is full of "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa" and a suggestion to use "setkeycodes".
[02:13] <yosef> Does anyone here have filenames in right-to-left language(e.g. hebrew, arabic)?
[02:14] <moo_> can someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:14] <vik> I just moved my system from one disk to another after a nasty disk failure. The root partition is the same (hda2), but the swap partition has changed from hda3 to hda5. I've reflected this in fstab (hda3 is now an extended partition). When I boot in recovery mode I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6591
[02:14] <encompass> yosef: sorry no... have you checked the forums for an answer?
[02:14] <JoeBlow> why when i got to view my harddrive, does it tell me You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda3", I did the ubuntu tutorial and it didnt work properly
[02:14] <encompass> when I have used my account, I log out, and anyone tries to login the can't it never reaches the splash screen of gnome...  I have trying killling the gnome-panel but to no avail... any other ideas?
[02:14] <yosef> encompass-> yep. no answers yet...
[02:15] <Nyven> mwe: qpopper is working now . ta again
[02:15] <moo_> can someone tell me how to downgrade to gcc 3.4.5
[02:15] <utada> it disables the display power managment :(
[02:15] <Myrtti> moo_: we heard you the first time
[02:15] <viyyer> how do I change the default distro name.. my apt still assumes that warty as the base distribution
[02:15] <encompass> utada: what?  really? that sucks, have you disables, acpi or apm features in your install?
[02:15] <Myrtti> viyyer: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:16] <utada> not really
[02:16] <viyyer> In debian I use /etc/apt/apt.preferences
[02:16] <utada> it's not disabled actually
[02:16] <viyyer> what is the equivivalent??
[02:16] <utada> i tag it and change the time
[02:16] <utada> but when i exit
[02:16] <BigKahuna> !itunes
[02:16] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, BigKahuna
[02:16] <utada> it untagged again
[02:16] <viyyer> Myrtti, I have left with only breezy packages
[02:16] <ilba7r> moo_ i assume you need to compile with gcc 3.4.5 so why not just install it. It will work this way
[02:16] <BigKahuna> whats the linux equivalent to iTunes?
[02:17] <deltron> BigKahuna: juk maybe
[02:17] <encompass> is there a way to resetup my gdm?
[02:17] <moo_> becouase i dont know how
[02:17] <encompass> without reisntalling of course
[02:17] <deltron> dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[02:17] <encompass> thanks
[02:17] <deltron> from CLI
[02:17] <BigKahuna> Is anybody using an iPod with linux?
[02:17] <deltron> sudo of course
[02:17] <vik> what files would need to be changed when moving an ubuntu install from one drive to another?
[02:18] <aftertaf> encompass:  or install kdm.
[02:18] <bpuccio> BigKahuna: to purchase music, try sharpmusique, if you want to play music, there's rhythmbox and juk
[02:18] <florian> hi all
[02:18] <ilba7r> moo_ use synaptic to  install build-essentials gcc-3.4.5
[02:18] <utada> how do i put my display into sleep mode?
[02:18] <BigKahuna> bpuccio, juk will detect my Ipod when I connect it?
[02:19] <florian> Is there anybody who has wine 9.4 running on ubuntu?
[02:19] <deltron> !wine
[02:19] <florian> errr. 0.9.4
[02:19] <deltron> ubotu: tell florian about wine
[02:19] <bpuccio> BigKahuna: I have no idea, I don't have an iPod, I use an ogg player made by cowon that is recognized as a USB mass storage device and I just copy my music over that way
[02:20] <moo_> umm how to i get to synaptic
[02:20] <Kindred> BigKahuna, gtkpod is quite popular
[02:21] <aftertaf> moo_:  its in your menu, or you type sudo synaptic in console
[02:21] <ilba7r> moo_ if you are using gnome use the menus. or type in a terminal gksudo synaptic
[02:21] <FiNANCiER> holy hell i had no idea this linux distribution was so popular
[02:21] <aftertaf> FiNANCiER:  learn and weep :] 
[02:22] <FiNANCiER> ima visit the site after this game (as i visited it ages and ages ago)
[02:22] <FiNANCiER> how long has it been big? just recently?
[02:22] <FiNANCiER> 3rd top channel on freenode in terms of popularity
[02:22] <encompass> wow
[02:22] <Myrtti> distrowatch.com
[02:23] <aftertaf> hippy new year Myrtti  :] 
[02:23] <Myrtti> FiNANCiER: http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity
[02:23] <Myrtti> aftertaf: happy one for you too ;-)
[02:23] <FiNANCiER> thank you
[02:24] <AtomicB_> hey guys, got a quick one - how to install jre on a fresh beezy install?
[02:25] <Pygi> !java
[02:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:25] <Pygi> !javadebs
[02:25] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:25] <AtomicB_> cheers :] 
[02:27] <wizardjames> whats a good ftp server?
[02:27] <kemik> wizardjames:  pureftpd i've heard is good
[02:27] <panzer> proftpd
[02:27] <deltron> proftpd is decent
[02:27] <wizardjames> there one with a gui?
[02:28] <Pygi> !ftpserver
[02:28] <ubotu> Pygi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:28] <kemik> gui in linux? :P
[02:28] <Pygi> kemik: LOL
[02:28] <Pygi> james: good server is the one you can maintain :)
[02:29] <aftertaf> u can use webmin for a gui after
[02:29] <SkunkZilla> can someone please help me with my ntfs partitions, ive tried all the stuff on wiki, and I just cant get it to work
[02:29] <Pygi> not webmin :/
[02:29] <panzer> but I have dhcp what I do?
[02:29] <kemik> SkunkZilla:  get what to work? reading from it ?
[02:30] <aftertaf> SkunkZilla:  for accessing it, or for write access ?
[02:30] <wizardjames> blah, i cant get this working..
[02:30] <GreenCult> buenos dias a todos
[02:30] <ilba7r> wizardjames if you just need file sharing there are other ways
[02:30] <aftertaf> buenos dias and !es
[02:30] <aftertaf> !es
[02:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:30] <aftertaf> :)
[02:30] <SkunkZilla> i can access it from the admin disks tools, but the icons on the desktop wont let me
[02:31] <shomon> hi I wonder if any of you would know how to get a bluetooth dongle working on ubuntu? Is there a list somewhere of makes that work, or do they all?
[02:31] <SkunkZilla> kemik: i can access it from the admin disks tools, but the icons on the desktop wont let me
[02:31] <spiekey> where can i get a ubuntu sources.list for 64Bit?
[02:31] <spiekey> i want to upgrade from woody to ubuntu 5.10 64Bit
[02:31] <spiekey> any idea?
[02:32] <Myrtti> woody?
[02:32] <Myrtti> as in debian woody?
[02:32] <SkunkZilla> so how do i access the disks with wine, and from the icons on the desktop?
[02:32] <spiekey> Myrtti: yes
[02:32] <Myrtti> bad idea
[02:32] <Myrtti> try fresh install
[02:32] <morphix> hrm.. ok i installed ubuntu succesfully(obviously) on my usb hdd..
[02:32] <spiekey> Myrtti: impossible
[02:32] <spiekey> Myrtti: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-woody
[02:32] <aftertaf> copy /home and /etc for safe keeping then fresh install... better Myrtti ?
[02:32] <ompaul> spiekey, you said sarge
[02:32] <Myrtti> yup
[02:32] <morphix> when i try to access my ntfs windows partitions. i get access denied, no permission
[02:32] <SkunkZilla> can someone please just msg me and help me with my harddrives?
[02:33] <ompaul> !anyone
[02:33] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:33] <morphix> how can i access the other hdds?
[02:33] <spiekey> ompaul: i read that from woody its more stable
[02:33] <spiekey> ompaul: i can choose between woody and sarge :)
[02:33] <Myrtti> I'm off to sofa
[02:33] <Myrtti> -->
[02:33] <Kanye> can somebody please tell me how i can have the led on my mute button working? i was able to fix the led on my wifi im pretty sure is the same step but i dont know how to access my sound cards config file
[02:33] <ompaul> spiekey, download a CD 5.10 and install it save the bother just back up the home directories and the user info from /etc/
[02:34] <ompaul> Myrtti, enjoy
[02:34] <spiekey> ompaul: i have no physical access to the box
[02:34] <shomon> how do you make a bluetooth usb adaptor work on ubuntu?
[02:34] <JoeBlow> how do I log in as root?
[02:34] <spiekey> JoeBlow: sudo su - ?
[02:35] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Log in as use,r type 'sudo -i'
[02:35] <JoeBlow> cafuego: log in as use? what do you mean?
[02:36] <dwhsix> hi all - in nautilus, if I select a file I can right-click and do send to, but only evolution shows up as an option... how would I add thunderbird to that list?
[02:36] <cafuego> JoeBlow: log in as normal user, create a root shell by typing 'sudo -i' in a terminal.
[02:36] <coz> hello all
[02:36] <JoeBlow> cafuego: im trying to change premissions on a harddrive, and it says the root is the owner, so how do i go in as root, on the gui, and change them?
[02:37] <joshi> is there a good guide how to install Unreal Tournament GOTY on linux?
[02:37] <BigKahuna> how to mount FAT32 drive?
[02:37] <cafuego> JoeBlow: What kind of harddrive? Fat? ntfs?
[02:37] <BigKahuna> sudo mount -t vfat?
[02:37] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ntfs
[02:37] <cafuego> JoeBlow: ntfs doesn't support unix permissions, you can't run chown on it.
[02:37] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok thnx
[02:37] <cafuego> JoeBlow: You need to change the mount options in /etc/fstab
[02:38] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Speficially: uid, gid and umask options.
[02:38] <JoeBlow> cafuego: where can i find that? im really new to linux, just trying to get this working for my kid
[02:38] <fr0x> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 5.10, strangely when I download through FTP - After X's minutes my linux stucks and I must restart for fixing this problem
[02:38] <fr0x> Any idea why?
[02:38] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Ok, add 'umask=000' in the options column in /etc/fstab for the NTFS partition.
[02:38] <morphix> hrm
[02:39] <JoeBlow> cafuego: Im really sorry, but where is the options column or better yet, ect/fstab
[02:39] <morphix> JoeBlow: sudo nano /etc/fstab in terminal
[02:39] <morphix> or vim or gedit
[02:39] <morphix> whatever u like best.
[02:40] <ompaul> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[02:40] <cvt|gnuyear> How do i burn video files to dvd for playback?
[02:40] <JoeBlow> morphix: ok i did that
[02:40] <app> t
[02:40] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Now fine the line with the ntfs partition.
[02:40] <cafuego> find
[02:40] <Swearingen> morning
[02:40] <cafuego> JoeBlow: And in the options column, make sure it says: ro,user,umask=000
[02:41] <fr0x> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 5.10, strangely when I download through FTP - After X's minutes my linux stucks and I must restart for fixing this problem - Any clue why it happens?
[02:41] <coz> cvtjnuyear are you using gnomebaker?
[02:41] <Tomcat_> fr0x: Only happens when you're using FTP?
[02:41] <cvt|gnuyear> coz, not yet
[02:41] <coz> fr0x No idea someone here will know
[02:42] <klaym> hey can someone explain me exactly why is Linux (and Ubuntu) practically free of viruses?
[02:42] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok it says /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[02:42] <Swearingen> I'm sitting behind a rather idiotic proxy that blocks all ftp
[02:42] <coz> cvtjnuyear well gnomebaker is what you probably wnat to use unless you purchase NeroLinux
[02:42] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Yep. Chnage the 'defaults' to 'ro,user,umask=000'
[02:42] <spiekey> klaym: due to opensource
[02:42] <with> linlin
[02:42] <coz> but I have had problems with NeroLinus on ubuntu
[02:42] <Tomcat_> klaym: Because Linux is only used by a minority of people and the system is better designed than Windows.
[02:42] <coz> nerolinux
[02:42] <Swearingen> is there anyway to get updates w/o using ftp?
[02:42] <FiNANCiER> i sure hope my bridged dial in to dsl using pppoe will be easier under ubuntu, i've had problems with every software pppoe program that was on my knoppix live cd
[02:42] <tsw> anyone know of a simple script which would log my wan link connectivity (maybe by doing traceroute to few servers and seeing where its broken and log the start and end time)?
[02:42] <fr0x> Tomcat, as a matter of fact I have just installed Ubuntu (like a week ago), I did download a few times through the browser, it worked quite well, but it stucks when I use FTP
[02:42] <cafuego> Swearingen: use http
[02:43] <cafuego> Swearingen: Like via apt-get or synaptic.
[02:43] <klaym> spiekey and Tomcat_: thanks for your answes. I'm trying to convince a Windows user to Linux
[02:43] <coz> Swearingen apt-get updates
[02:43] <coz> apt-get upgrade
[02:43] <cafuego> Swearingen: Do _not_ ftp .deb files from the archive sites.
[02:43] <with> i have any problem to chatting
[02:43] <joshi> klaym: less users- less ppl to exploit. And linux users are usually smarter then win users- more careful with security
[02:43] <Tomcat_> klaym: Install a Windows system, connect it to the Internet -> lots of viruses due to open services. Install a Linux, connect it to the Internet -> nothing, because there's just nothing open.
[02:43] <spiekey> klaym: for what purpose? Office work or gaming?
[02:43] <ompaul> coz, so what does that teach you?
[02:43] <Swearingen> cafuego, coz: my mistake, I'm not using ftp I'm using http sources but I'm still not getting updates
[02:43] <Tomcat_> fr0x: Same app for FTP all the time? What app?
[02:44] <allison_1984> fr0x: I' having the same problem, browser' s getting real slow too !
[02:44] <cafuego> Swearingen: try ftp sources instead? :-)
[02:44] <fr0x> Right allison_1984 !
[02:44] <fr0x> Tomcat,
[02:44] <spiekey> klaym: my tip: install a dual boot system, and dont do a full switch to linux. the user will be disapointed.
[02:44] <allison_1984> Is it opera ?
[02:44] <klaym> We're just talking about computing in general, actually
[02:44] <spiekey> do it step by step
[02:44] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok, now it says, /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    ro,user,umask=000        0       0
[02:44] <fr0x> It is not an application, *.rar that include images (JPG's)
[02:44] <allison_1984> ok
[02:44] <FiNANCiER> anyone using software pppoe to connect to their dsl service in ubuntu?
[02:44] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Perfect. ctrl-x; save; unmount, remount.
[02:44] <cvt|gnuyear> i can only find dvd burning apps that burn data disks.
[02:45] <klaym> spiekey: will be disapointed of Ubuntu after he's used Windows? Why do you think so?
[02:45] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: Just a moment...
[02:45] <ompaul> spiekey, dual boot people don't boot linux mostly - unless they installed Linux themselves
[02:45] <Swearingen> cafeugo, coz: I keep getting 403 forbidden when trying to update
[02:45] <Swearingen> synaptic or apt
[02:45] <spiekey> klaym: my experience. They miss a lot of features wich linux doesnt has or need. linux is just "diffrent" not worse.
[02:45] <Tomcat_> klaym: He will be disappointed because the stuff he did on Windows, the methods he used for his work, the way he interacted with his PC will be different.
[02:46] <Tomcat_> klaym: Exactly what spiekey just said. :)
[02:46] <spiekey> :)
[02:46] <allison_1984> ompaul: I have dual boot but haven't touched windows in ages.......
[02:46] <cafuego> Swearingen: That's an HTTP error, not an ftp one, no? Does the proxy require authentication?
[02:46] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok, i guess i have to umount through terminal, how do i do that?
[02:46] <fr0x> Tomcat, I could use browser (download it through the browser) - unfortunately when I download it through the browser (firefox) it is being very slow, and when it downloads through FTP (until it gets stuck) I get very high result.
[02:46] <app> How do I change colour of my own messages in X-chat? The Setting / Preferences... is not clear to me, and #xchat is not very active, X-Chat manual is useless..
[02:46] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: See if you can find an app called 'DVDStyler'.
[02:46] <ompaul> allison_1984, who installed it?
[02:46] <Swearingen> cafeugo, coz: the weird thing is I can web browse to the archive locations
[02:46] <allison_1984> ompaul: just keeping it for mixing music
[02:46] <Tomcat_> fr0x: You always say "when it downloads through FTP"... FTP is just a protocol, what application are you using?
[02:46] <klaym> maybe so. but they'll appreciate the extra bucks they don't need for buying office -type programs, firewall, antivirus, etc
[02:46] <klaym> :)
[02:46] <tuhl> is there an initrd available for booting from USB-Disks?
[02:46] <allison_1984> ompaul: myself :)
[02:46] <cafuego> JoeBlow: 'sudo umount /media/sda3'
[02:46] <Swearingen> cafuego: it doesn't require auth anywhere else
[02:46] <Tomcat_> klaym: There's enough free stuff on Windows too. :)
[02:47] <fr0x> Tomcat, I just "ftp" through the terminal
[02:47] <cafuego> JoeBlow: remount it via 'mount /media/sda3'
[02:47] <site> can i have the full performance of windows with vmware?
[02:47] <ompaul> allison_1984, my point exactly, hand someone a choice and they take default which is not good for them
[02:47] <Tomcat_> site: I doubt it.
[02:47] <spiekey> site: no way
[02:47] <slept> site: use qemu its free
[02:47] <cafuego> Swearingen: Try a different mirror site
[02:47] <allison_1984> ompaul: I could not be too bothered to install the drivers too
[02:47] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok, i did that, and remounted it, and it still doesnt let me
[02:47] <htrujillo> site: i said 80% of performance
[02:47] <spiekey> site: xen gets very close to it, but only for linux emulations
[02:47] <Swearingen> cafuego: is there a list of good mirrors maintained somewhere?
[02:47] <slept> site: with kqemu it works at nice speed
[02:47] <Tomcat_> fr0x: And did you try something else than the terminal FTP? Like FTP in your browser or using Nautilus?
[02:47] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Can't read files off it?
[02:48] <JoeBlow> cafuego: doesnt see any files
[02:48] <site> kqemu
[02:48] <site> and is it easy to use?
[02:48] <fr0x> Tomcat, I will try that. You recommand on Nautilus? It comes by default or I shall apt-get it?
[02:48] <with> iccho_grand
[02:48] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Ok. Type 'id'. What is the user id (number) for the user that needs access?
[02:48] <site> and hoy many % performance does kqemu have?
[02:48] <JoeBlow> cafuego: I dunno,how do i find out?
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: type 'id'
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: The first number you see... probably 1000
[02:49] <JoeBlow> yea
[02:49] <Tomcat_> fr0x: Nautilus is installed by default. Just type ftp://<username>:<password>@<ftp address> and you're done. If it crashes there it's really weird.
[02:49] <JoeBlow> cafuego:yea 1000
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Ok, edit /etc/fstab again.
[02:49] <cafuego> JoeBlow: change that option field to 'ro,user,umask=000,uid=1000'
[02:50] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Then unmount and remount.
[02:50] <fr0x> Tomcat, What other FTP program you can suggest me to use?
[02:50] <fr0x> A good one
[02:50] <slept> site: the hompage tells between  50 and 100%
[02:50] <site> thats a huge difference
[02:50] <Tomcat_> fr0x: lftp (console)... firefox will work too but is not good...
[02:51] <Tomcat_> fr0x: It's not that you should switch to another program, you should just try one FTP download that you did with the ftp console app with some other app, so we can see if it's the app that crashes you or the Internet transfer.
[02:51] <pi9inE> i can't burn my DVD .iso downloaded as boot DVD :(((
[02:51] <pi9inE> what's the problem please, help me out
[02:51] <pi9inE> i've burned over 10 DVD for nothing
[02:51] <slept> site: but in any case its worth a try , just apt-get and quick image creation  there are images for bsd aswell wich you can try
[02:52] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok i did cntrl x to save, now do i just x the window?
[02:52] <cafuego> pi9inE: Did you check the ISO md5sum>
[02:52] <cafuego> JoeBlow: yep
[02:52] <pi9inE> cafuego: you mean in nero?
[02:52] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok but when i go back into the options, it says defaults again
[02:53] <cafuego> pi9inE: I mean did you check the md5sum of the downloaded file against the provided checksum?
[02:53] <cvt|gnuyear> cafuego, i found this http://dvdstyler.sourceforge.net/downloads.html so i dl'ed the .deb and did sudo apt-get install <file name>
[02:53] <cafuego> JoeBlow: grrr.
[02:53] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: 'sudo dpkg -i <filename>'
[02:53] <cvt|gnuyear> ok
[02:53] <stan_> does anyone know how to discover a modem?  (I'm giving my old PC away in 15 mins & cant get the modem working for the new owner)
[02:53] <cafuego> cvt|gnuyear: Note that *may* not work
[02:53] <pi9inE> cafuego: where to check it? i've downloaded an original one from official web
[02:53] <cvt|gnuyear> np
[02:53] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Re-edit, then ctrl-O maybe.
[02:53] <site> slept, , the bsd image is free?
[02:54] <JoeBlow> cafuego: got it, thanks so much
[02:54] <cafuego> JoeBlow: no worries
[02:54] <htrujillo> yeah... how can i check the md5sum?
[02:54] <qsrv> hi
[02:54] <deFrysk> md5sum <file>
[02:55] <htrujillo> thanks
[02:55] <qsrv> is anyone using scilab under  breezy?
[02:55] <site> hm, why cant i install drivers in xp with vmware? :S
[02:55] <qsrv> it fails to start, reports font problems
[02:55] <Pheinox> hello there
[02:55] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok whats the command to go back into those options?
[02:55] <pi9inE> deFrysk: how to check?
[02:55] <cafuego> JoeBlow: 'sudo nano /etc/fstab'
[02:55] <slept> site: which hardware do you think an emulation uses ?
[02:56] <JoeBlow> cafuego: thanks you so much
[02:56] <site> slept, i dont know
[02:56] <site> the same i guess
[02:56] <Pheinox> I use the ubuntu version 5.04 liveCD , now i have problems with totem and xmms to play files , how can i remedy this ?
[02:56] <deFrysk> pi9inE, compare it to the given md5 sum from dowload
[02:57] <site> what does it use slept ?
[02:57] <slept> site: no it has its own harware as far as i know , did you see the vmware graphics in xserver config :)
[02:57] <pi9inE> nvm, my GF is here, talk to you later... thanks
[02:57] <Swearingen> cafuego: so this is getting frustrating.  I've tried two mirror sites now w/ the same 403 results but I can browse and dl packages via Firefox w/o issue
[02:57] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Do you save your home dir using the LiveCD?
[02:57] <site> thats shit, so i cant use my videocard ?
[02:58] <stoneage> is it possible to change the ugly icon from the "unlock screen" at gnome ?
[02:58] <Pheinox> Tomcat_, the files that i want to listen and watch at is on a win xp systen running ntfs , and no i cannot save anything on tha harddisk still i have 1G ran to use
[02:59] <Pheinox> i have the partition of the xp with the files mounted
[02:59] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[02:59] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Has playing these files on the LiveCD ever worked?
[02:59] <Tomcat_> C-O-L-T: Please disable your awaymessage.
[02:59] <slept> site: vmware does that for you , I think . But did you ask in #vmware?
[02:59] <Pheinox> its jsut that totem doesnt work , and when installing xmms its not working either , its seems like it is missing decoders
[03:00] <site> no gonna do now
[03:00] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Well, the LiveCD only comes with Ogg Vorbis and some Mpeg-Support.
[03:00] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: You'll have to follow the Ubuntu 5.04 instructions for multimedia then... like installing totem-xine, w32codecs and the like.
[03:01] <Pheinox> Tomcat_, ic , how can I get access to more decoders ? I mean i tried to use the package manager and still its not working ... are there any way to get the stuff needed ?
[03:01] <Pheinox> Tomcat_, hmm where do you f9ind those instructions ?
[03:02] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: I'm wondering about that too... I know where they are for 5.10, but not 5.04.
[03:02] <Tomcat_> !w32codecs
[03:02] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:02] <Tomcat_> Mh...
[03:02] <Tomcat_> !mp3
[03:02] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:02] <Tomcat_> You could try the things on that site.
[03:02] <Tomcat_> But it's written for 5.10.
[03:03] <dabaR__> just download the same referred pacjkages.
[03:03] <dabaR__> In the worst case, search for only package names, and do not include versions, and you will be able to find something.
[03:03] <dabaR__> are you having diff. with movies, or music>?
[03:04] <Pheinox> hmm , I wonder why those decoders arent available per default
[03:04] <Tomcat_> dabaR_: He's trying to play MP3 and movies on a LiveCD
[03:04] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Because there are license problems
[03:04] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: Most codecs are not allowed to be distributed with Linux, and so Ubuntu can't provide them by default.
[03:04] <dabaR__> what movies? what is the extension, or is it a dvd?
[03:04] <Pheinox> hmm
[03:04] <Tomcat_> Pheinox: If you live in the USA I believe you're breaking a whole bunch of laws downloading that stuff. ;)
[03:05] <Pheinox> i dont live in the usa
[03:05] <Pheinox> so thats making no sense =)
[03:05] <dabaR__> Pheinox: you will for sure need to enable universe and multiverse. Are you using Synaptic?
[03:05] <chocozenn> hi..??
[03:05] <Pheinox> dabaR_, i think its called synaptic =)
[03:06] <dabaR__> Pheinox: go check.
[03:06] <Pheinox> but the instructions whos apt-get ( debian package management )
[03:06] <dabaR__> what instructions? go open synaptic.
[03:06] <Pheinox> i still think ubntu live cd should have as knoppix support for all codecs
[03:06] <pogs> what is this
[03:06] <iccho_grand> hi....?
[03:06] <dabaR__> Pheinox: we are glad you are the 1000000th person with taht idea.
[03:07] <AIV> I decided to try and get off of windows, yes, I am trying to kick it cold turkey, last night I had the shakes and all
[03:07] <iccho_grand> joint
[03:07] <dabaR__> Pheinox: now, do you want it enabled, or not really?
[03:07] <Pheinox> dabaR_, =) hehe time to get democratical ?
[03:07] <pogs>  cannot lived with ubuntu
[03:07] <Pheinox> im trying to check the instructions there
[03:07] <dabaR__> Pheinox: democracy has proven to be a ryule of the mob. OK, then good luck, I gotta run.
[03:08] <esoteric> hey guys looking for some advice... i have a dell with dual Xeons in it... and im running breezy.... is there a precompiled kernel optimised for dual xeons?
[03:08] <AIV> anyhow, one thing is, now that I have 5.10 up and running, I get lock ups at random times that I can only get out of by restarting with the power button
[03:08] <Kanye> what is the tterminal command to download automatix?
[03:08] <stark-johan> on my windows machine I used putty to ssh to my linux computers, do I need a program to do this from ubuntu?
[03:09] <AIV> if it were windows, I might check the event log, so how do I begin troubleshooting in Ubuntu?
[03:09] <AIV> is there a log file somewhere that would tell me app is hanging?
[03:09] <kemik> syslog
[03:09] <spiekey> can i upgrade from ubuntu 32bit to ubbuntu 64bit?
[03:10] <dabaR__> AIV: do you know that you can get to a console with "alt+ctrl+f3" and then get back to the window part with "alt+ctrl+f7"? Do you know that alt+ctrl+backspace restart your window environment?
[03:10] <morphix> back again :) just added res's in xorg
[03:10] <cvt|gnuyear> cafuego, i can't install dvdstyler because it depends on newer versions of files that aren't in synaptic
[03:10] <AIV> dabaR_, no, didn't know that, thank you
[03:11] <morphix> what do i need to download to play mp3, avi, mpg, etc, etc? like what codecs, etc
[03:11] <Kindred> !restricted
[03:11] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:11] <dabaR__> AIV: try that, when it freezes, that way you know what is freezing up, whether it is the whole comptuer, or just the x-window-system.
[03:12] <Kindred> morphix, check out that site.
[03:12] <esoteric> !xeon
[03:12] <ubotu> esoteric: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:12] <AIV> dabaR_, thanks for that valuable info
[03:12] <site> you cant use your videocard with vmware :(
[03:12] <site> thats not cool
[03:13] <fr0x> Tomcat, amazing, I can download it through the browser (ftp://<username>:<Password>@Address)
[03:13] <app> Still no Skype for Ubuntu?
[03:13] <fr0x> Though I get very bad result, 2.8kb/sec
[03:13] <fr0x> While I download from this server at 150kb/sec
[03:13] <bugz_> anybody can suggest a good pci-express vga-card for both ubuntu and fedora?
[03:13] <fr0x> I used to get this from my fbsd box + windows
[03:13] <morphix> thanks Kindred
[03:13] <Manifold> Guys, how do I take my HD icons off the desktop?
[03:15] <Suprano> i have a audioplayer started with wine.. but when i press the play button the application terminates
[03:15] <Pheinox> hmm perhaps a script for the live CD's should be there to change the stuff fir synaptic to multiverse etc
[03:15] <Manifold> What audio player, Suprano?
[03:15] <Suprano> foobar2000
[03:15] <Manifold> Good choice.
[03:15] <Manifold> :] 
[03:15] <Suprano> hehe
[03:15] <FiNANCiER> that's the best music player on the planet
[03:16] <FiNANCiER> who wouldnt want leet playlists
[03:16] <Manifold> Did you follow the guide, Suprano?
[03:16] <Manifold> There's a guide to setup fb2k on the forums.
[03:16] <Manifold> For linux.
[03:16] <Suprano> oh
[03:16] <Suprano> let's see :D
[03:16] <morphix> is there a 'media library' plugin for xmms?
[03:16] <Manifold> :] 
[03:16] <bugz_> anybody can suggest a good pci-express vga-card for both ubuntu and fedora?
[03:17] <Manifold> Guys, how do I take my HD icons off the desktop?
[03:18] <UbuntuMike> The panel at the top of the screen can have show and hide bars, is there a way to change the colour of those show/hide bars?
[03:18] <cvt|gnuyear> wishlist: wireless internet, dvd video burning, hl2, doom 3
[03:19] <site> u dont have hl2, doom3?
[03:19] <Manifold> Guys, how do I take my HD icons off the desktop?
[03:19] <cvt|gnuyear> site, not for ubuntu
[03:19] <dabaR__> Manifold: you asked a minute ago
[03:19] <Manifold> Sorry.
[03:19] <dabaR__> Manifold: apps>sys tools>config editor>nautilus>desktop>show drives or so.
[03:19] <site> ah i see
[03:19] <AIV> also, what app is out there for ubuntu that is like VMWARE for windows?
[03:20] <Pheinox> wine
[03:20] <dabaR__> AIV: the truth is out there
[03:20] <Pheinox> vmware ?
[03:20] <Pheinox> ?=)
[03:20] <site> vmware for linux
[03:20] <site> im using it now
[03:20] <Tomcat_> AIV: qemu
[03:20] <saik0> AIV, also qemu
[03:20] <site> and im not satisfied
[03:20] <dabaR__> !windows
[03:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[03:20] <site> i cant use my videocard at full performance
[03:20] <Manifold> !alternative
[03:21] <ubotu> somebody said alternative was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[03:21] <d5rt> AIV: you might check out umls and vservers as well (if you only want to host linux virtual machines)
[03:21] <d5rt> probably not possible yet w/plain vanilla ubuntu, but...
[03:23] <AIV> d5rt, I'll be running windows xp in my virtual machine
[03:23] <rix> h
[03:25] <app> I have trouble installing the skyp*.deb from Skype.com for Breezy. Is it supposed to work?
[03:25] <site> AIV, and how do you like XP in ur virtual mAchine?
[03:26] <poningru> !tell app about skype
[03:26] <mumanddad> !.deb
[03:26] <ubotu> mumanddad: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:26] <mumanddad> !deb
[03:26] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:27] <AIV> site, I'm not sure what you mean?  I need to run XP in a virtual machine so that I can support it
[03:27] <site> yea, me 2
[03:28] <app> The Breezy  default Firefox downloads stuff to /tmp but lies  in the download dialog, that it downloads to Desktop"!!!
[03:28] <site> but i want xp @ full performance
[03:28] <site> and that does not work
[03:28] <Manifold> !windows
[03:28] <ubotu> well, windows is unnecessary - everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[03:28] <app> !skype
[03:28] <ubotu> methinks skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:28] <Manifold> !lindows
[03:28] <ubotu> No idea, Manifold
[03:28] <Manifold> !xandros
[03:28] <ubotu> Manifold: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:28] <Seveas> Manifold, stop.
[03:29] <Raskall> what is the correct way to measure the actual transfer rate of a harddrive? I have a SATA-150 disk and controller that should have a transfer rate of 150 MB/s, but I only get about 60 with "hdparm -tT /dev/sda"
[03:30] <Suprano> hmm what do i have to change to let more then 1 app use the sound output? (alsa)
[03:32] <bea_> hello
[03:32] <tech9iner> G'Day bea_
[03:32] <AIV> has anyone in here run windows xp pro in qemu?  if so, what is the best place for instructions
[03:33] <ompaul> #windows perhaps
[03:33] <bea_> thanks
[03:33] <app> OK, I installed the static binary skype. CAn I get my contact list somehow, not to manually re-create it?
[03:34] <Hendikins> If you've got a .skype from another machine, you can use it
[03:34] <mumanddad> it does save them on server
[03:35] <Kanye> i just downloaded automatix and i installed laptop wi-fi how can i access the program to see what networks i have avaibable
[03:35] <morphix> i cant here any sound at all.. would i need to install drivers??
[03:35] <morphix> btw i am using optical out
[03:39] <app> "Centralized contacts" is supposed to work on "most recent" version of Skype? Looks like it does mean 1.2 that's available for Linux.
[03:39] <app> I mean does not mean
[03:40] <Markbb-> !ati
[03:40] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:41] <joshi> one question- im trying to install UT:
[03:41] <joshi> joshi@joshi:~/Desktop$ ./ut-install-436.run
[03:41] <joshi> Verifying archive integrity...OK
[03:41] <joshi> Uncompressing Unreal Tournament version 436 Linux installtrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 
[03:41] <joshi> what i need to do?
[03:41] <site> UT?
[03:41] <site> 2004?
[03:41] <joshi> goty
[03:41] <site> linux edition?
[03:41] <joshi> yea
[03:41] <Suprano> yea
[03:41] <site> well i dont know much about linux
[03:42] <joshi> :P
[03:42] <site> but i can tell its not good for playin games
[03:42] <joshi> probably
[03:42] <joshi> but im bored from mahjong allready :/
[03:42] <site> lol
[03:43] <site> i can understand that
[03:43] <Ng> joshi: that looks like the installer script is buggy :/
[03:43] <Markbb-> ppracer / tuxracer ftw!
[03:43] <Ng> joshi: tried Enemy Territory? free 3d shooter from the quake people
[03:43] <joshi> i dont like enemy oterritory... :(
[03:43] <joshi> tryed to get it to work just for testing and it worked
[03:44] <bjorn_> or how about jake! .. or jquake or whatever it was called
[03:44] <Suprano> what do i have to change to let more then 1 app use the sound output? (alsa)
[03:45] <joshi> thnx for the hint Ng - ill go look for some other place where to donwload the script
[03:45] <Ng> n
[03:45] <Ng> p
[03:45] <Ng> bah ;)
[03:45] <snk00sj> hi guys
[03:46] <snk00sj> i have a very strange problem
[03:46] <Kindred> joshi, might be worth looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-18348.html
[03:46] <snk00sj> i created a launcher on my desktop to link to a directory listing
[03:46] <TengkSA> Hi All .. how do you mount hard drives
[03:46] <snk00sj> tengska : it's on the wiki
[03:46] <lowman62> they should have chester cheetah as the installer mascot for winblows98 cuz it is just so darn cheezy :D
[03:46] <TengkSA> how do u access the wiki snk00sj
[03:46] <snk00sj> but when i move the SAME launcher (it works on the desktop) to a panel drawer, it doesn't work anymore
[03:46] <snk00sj> google : ubuntu wiki
[03:47] <snk00sj> then search "howto mount"
[03:47] <jack_> hello! I have installed ubuntu, but it is very unstable. The X server crashes appearently randomly and many times the whole system just hangs so badly that MUST reboot! Is this a known problem?
[03:47] <snk00sj> jack check the logs
[03:47] <snk00sj> /var/log
[03:47] <spiekey> memtest?
[03:47] <snk00sj> yeah thats the first thing you should try
[03:47] <jack_> spiekey, bought new memory
[03:47] <spiekey> so?
[03:47] <snk00sj> if you installed the grub bootloader you can launch a memtest from there
[03:48] <snk00sj> so there you got the problem :)
[03:48] <snk00sj> new memory is not always error free :)
[03:48] <jack_> spiekey, so nothing.. I booted and bang! Hangs bigtime//
[03:48] <snk00sj> jack run a memtest to start
[03:48] <joshi> Kindered Ng it really seemed to be a mistake of the script... downloaded from other place and it worked :)
[03:48] <site> what is better for games, cedega or winer?
[03:48] <joshi> thnx
[03:48] <site> and is it wisely to install both?
[03:48] <jack_> snk00sj, No but I tried with 4 different memory sticks!
[03:49] <Kindred> joshi, great :)
[03:49] <Ng> joshi: cool
[03:49] <Ng> site: cedega is probably better for many games
[03:49] <spacey_ki> jack_ just memtest, its already on your system. just be sure.
[03:49] <Ng> site: you can easily install both, cedega will keep itself quite well contained
[03:49] <site> ok cool ng, but i dont see cedega in my synaptic list?
[03:49] <snk00sj> is anyone using a panel drawer here ?
[03:50] <ccooke_> site: cedega is commercial software - you'll have to pay for it.
[03:50] <Ng> site: unfortunately cedega is a non-free fork of wine, you have to pay to get it :/
[03:50] <Ng> I think it's $15
[03:50] <snk00sj> wine should do the job just fine no ?
[03:50] <site> damn
[03:50] <Ng> depends on the game/application
[03:50] <Ng> try it in wine first though :)
[03:50] <site> u know some place where i can get it free?
[03:51] <Ng> no and this isn't really a good place to ask that ;)
[03:51] <jack_> spacey_ki, memtest - (what arguments)
[03:51] <snk00sj> please anyone, help me out here :)
[03:51] <spiekey> jack_: boot from your installation cd and type in "memtest"
[03:51] <kemik> jack-:  reboot and run it
[03:51] <mwe> cedega cvs is free of charge
[03:51] <site> hehe
[03:51] <snk00sj> just test if for me if its a common gnome problem
[03:51] <Ng> mwe: good point
[03:51] <snk00sj> then i'll report it to gnome bugtracking
[03:53] <bob_> Hi all
[03:53] <brasko> I was wondering if anyone knew how to get sound working in ubuntu with xmms
[03:53] <kemik> brasko:  choose the apropriate plugin for sound output ?
[03:54] <kemik> brasko:  and got mp3 support (gstreamer0.8-mad (or maby a newer version))
[03:54] <brasko> I have the SB Live! EMU10k1 card
[03:54] <brasko> I used to have it working in debian
[03:54] <brasko> Should I be using /dev/dsp?
[03:55] <brasko> or is there a different setup on ubuntu?
[03:55] <spacey_ki> brasko, do you system sounds work?
[03:55] <brasko> I know this card is supported nicely in ALSA
[03:55] <brasko> I''m not quite sure how to test if the systems sound works
[03:56] <spacey_ki> brasko, select eSound output plugin
[03:56] <brasko> OK, I'll try that
[03:56] <brasko> I did 'ps -ef|grep esd', and didn't see anything
[03:56] <brasko> The thing is, the card I have supports hardware mixing, so I don't think I need a sound daemon
[03:56] <spacey_ki> brasko, also recommend using a bit more recent mediaplayer. :) xmms is quite ugly & old
[03:56] <brasko> but probably a lot has changed
[03:56] <spacey_ki> brasko, then alsa should work
[03:56] <psusi> I use alsa, not esd
[03:57] <brasko> hmmm, is alsa setup by default on ubuntu?
[03:57] <spacey_ki> ofcourse
[03:57] <brasko> or is it a kernel thing know adays?
[03:57] <psusi> open the sound config pannel thing and switch to alsa and hit the test button
[03:57] <brasko> I was using an old version of debian, and had to set it up manually.
[03:57] <spacey_ki> alsa should work out of the box
[03:57] <brasko> BTW, I love ubuntu!
[03:57] <brasko> haha, I recently switched, and everything has been so easy to use, I forget I'm on linux
[03:57] <AIV> when I installed 5.10, I let partitioner auto partition, so how do I view my partition structure?
[03:57] <olicat> does anyone know if i can create an image of an entire hard disk?
[04:00] <ccooke_> olicat: Yes, you can.
[04:00] <ccooke_> olicat: there are several methods of doing it - any linux install will be able to do a simple, low-level image. There is software around that will do more advanced things, but much of it is commercial.
[04:01] <brasko> OK, silly me
[04:01] <brasko> oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Permission denied'
[04:01] <brasko> do i have to run xmms as root?
[04:01] <brasko> or should I add my user to a group?
[04:01] <slept> no add your user to audio
[04:01] <GnarlyBob> ok, so the latest knoppix boots and starts up flawlessly with the default settings in my BIOS, and without passing *any* params to the kernel... but a Ubuntu cd won't even finish booting unless I tweak some BIOS settings and tell the kernel to disable acpi
[04:01] <kemik> brasko:  shouldnt run anything as root
[04:01] <brasko> Yeah, I figured. Thanks.
[04:01] <nagyv> Hello! I use kubuntu 5.10, and my pcmcia card does not work. It was working in the past days, but now the Network Settings panel can not recognize it, athough it is found by lspci. Could someone help me?
[04:01] <ccooke_> olicat: However, if you do: 'dd if=/dev/hda of=/path/to/disk_image bs=1024k' (make sure the disk image is on a different disk!) it'll work.
[04:01] <brasko> Is there a GUI tool in ubuntu for changing group permissions? or should I modify the file myself?
[04:01] <ccooke_> (the bs=1024k will speed up the transfer)
[04:02] <kemik> brasko:  system-admin-user&groups
[04:03] <ermo> Does anyone know of a way to salavage a mail in progress in an Xorg session running amok?
[04:04] <ermo> I can log in via ssh
[04:04] <olicat> ccooke_, what if there's only one disk in the machine? ie how can i specify a different disk?
[04:04] <brasko> hhmmm, I have to log out of my X session, don't I?
[04:04] <brasko> to get the new permissions?
[04:05] <brasko> brb
[04:05] <fizzle> how would i go about displaying the temperature of my proc/mobo?
[04:06] <ccooke_> olicat: you have a problem, there. See, if you try to copy a disk to itself, it won't fit. If you have half the disk free, you can compress the output, though?
[04:06] <cvt|gnuyear> fizzle, maybe gkrellm.
[04:06] <ccooke_> olicat: to compress, use this:
[04:07] <ermo> any evolution gurus present who know some commandline magic to save a draft in a running session where the Xorg server is running amok and won't respond?
[04:07] <Jack-Ho> hey, how can i restore my iptabels setting?
[04:07] <Jack-Ho> s
[04:07] <ccooke_> olicat: dd if=/dev/hda bs=900k | bzip2 -v > disk_image.bz2
[04:08] <xester> good day
[04:08] <seanmc> channels
[04:08] <seanmc> #channes
[04:08] <Jack-Ho> hey, how can i restore my iptabels settings?
[04:08] <seanmc> #channels
[04:09] <fizzle> how would i go about displaying the temperature of my proc/mobo?
[04:09] <fizzle> and gkrellm doesnt work
[04:09] <ccooke_> Jack-Ho: You can save the settings with iptables-save > filename
[04:10] <thoreauputic> fizzle:  lm-sensors
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> no
[04:10] <ermo> fizzle, do you have i2c and lm-sensors configured properly?
[04:10] <ccooke_> Jack-Ho: to restore, iptables-restore < filename
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> sec
[04:10] <thoreauputic> fizzle: gkrellm won't work without sensors to read
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> nice
[04:10] <Jack-Ho> thanks!
[04:10] <thoreauputic> for that purpose anyway
[04:10] <fizzle> where do i get the sensors from
[04:10] <thoreauputic> !info lm-sensors
[04:11] <fizzle> !lm-sensors
[04:11] <ubotu> fizzle: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:11] <thoreauputic> hmm hang on
[04:11] <fizzle> k
[04:11] <jono> anyone have problems booting the root partition in second stage install on dapper fight 2?
[04:11] <brasko> hmm, looks like that helped
[04:11] <brasko> I got a sound on startup
[04:11] <thoreauputic> fizzle: try apt-cache search sensors
[04:11] <brasko> is that gnome?
[04:11] <Jowi> hi everyone
[04:11] <dura> Anyone run a VIA K8T800 here?
[04:12] <dura> (motherboard)
[04:12] <fizzle> the temperature sensors are installed
[04:12] <fizzle> now what? -.-
[04:12] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, how much time its takes?
[04:12] <slept> are there special repos for amd64 ?
[04:12] <jono> damn dapper won't boot
[04:12] <dura> fizzle, There is a nice howto for sensors
[04:12] <ermo> fizzle, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=howto+lm-sensors
[04:12] <thoreauputic> fizzle: there's a wiki howto on lm-sensors I think
[04:12] <dura> slept, yes
[04:12] <morphix> how do i get perl scripts to work in x-chat
[04:12] <morphix> ?
[04:12] <dura> thoreauputic, There is
[04:12] <thoreauputic> ah - forums then :)
[04:13] <ermo> thoreauputic, :)
[04:13] <fizzle> ok ty
[04:13] <ermo> fizzle, for future reference you might consider searching the forums and the wiki before asking here ;)
[04:14] <Suprano> i can't play music with amarok. it says: The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files. You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses. You may find useful information in the FAQ section of the amaroK HandBook.
[04:14] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: it's instant. It's also an effectively atomic change
[04:14] <Ng> Suprano: you need the gstreamer0.8-mad package from universe
[04:14] <nagyv> Hello! I use kubuntu 5.10, and my pcmcia card does not work. It was working in the past days, but now the Network Settings panel can not recognize it, athough it is found by lspci. Could someone help me?
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, unn, i wana restore it to the defult
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> i dont have any filr
[04:14] <midas> hi all
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> e
[04:14] <Jack-Ho> :
[04:14] <thoreauputic> ubotu is wrong - the package lm-sensors *does* exist - just saw it in apt-cache search :|
[04:14] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:14] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: iptables -F ; iptables -t nat -F ; iptables -t mangle -F
[04:15] <midas> can somebody tell me how to install java ??
[04:15] <thoreauputic> ubotu evidently :)
[04:15] <ubotu> thoreauputic: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:15] <Jack-Ho> in sudo?
[04:15] <thoreauputic> !botsnack
[04:15] <ubotu> :)
[04:15] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: unless you've been playing around a lot, that'll flush (empty) the iptables config
[04:15] <Suprano> Ng: amarok-gstreamer - GStreamer engine for the amaroK audio player
[04:15] <Suprano>   ?
[04:15] <brasko> OK, so, now I'm not getting permission denied for the audio group
[04:15] <Ng> Suprano: no, take a look at teh RestrictedFormats wiki page
[04:15] <Jowi> ubotu, tell midas about java
[04:15] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, in sudo?
[04:15] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: you need to run each of those three commands under sudo. Make sure this won't break your networking, though.
[04:15] <brasko> and I can cat /dev/dsp
[04:15] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, brake my net?
[04:16] <Jack-Ho> waht do you mean?
[04:16] <ermo> any evolution gurus present who know some commandline magic to save a draft in a running session where the Xorg server is running amok and won't respond?
[04:16] <Suprano> ok
[04:16] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: well, if you're connecting to the internet through this system, it may be doing something like NAT. Turn that off and any computer trying to connect *through* the firewall you're changing will suddenly stop working.
[04:19] <olicat> ccooke, thanks for the input
[04:20] <Suprano> hmm Ng, the cmd apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't work .. do i need additional sources ?
[04:20] <Suprano> (as root)
[04:20] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:20] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[04:20] <Jowi> Suprano: add universe to the repos
[04:21] <vmware> #italia
[04:21] <vmware> ciao
[04:22] <Jack-Ho> ccooke, iptables v1.3.1: Unknown arg `-t'
[04:22] <Jack-Ho>  :|
[04:22] <Jack-Ho> never mid
[04:22] <AIV> I have a qemu question, is anyone in here good with qemu?
[04:22] <Suprano> ok
[04:22] <thoreauputic> psusi: :)
[04:22] <thoreauputic> psusi: I'm training bogofilter
[04:22] <ermo> psusi, yes, the 7z compression scheme is 'rather' efficient ;)
[04:23] <Jack-Ho> :\
[04:23] <thoreauputic> psusi: I will, however archive  them appropriately after bogofilter does its stuff
[04:23] <ccooke> Jack-Ho: look at the three commands again
[04:23] <vmware> hi
[04:23] <ccooke> bah.
[04:24] <jo_> good afternoon. could some one help me with apache & php not parsing the php files?
[04:24] <Seveas> jo_, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[04:25] <snk00sj-> httpd.conf
[04:25] <Seveas> and restart apache
[04:25] <Suprano> is there a way to shu off the lock so i can use more then 1 apt-get command at the same time ?
[04:25] <Seveas> that's all
[04:25] <Seveas> Suprano, no
[04:25] <jo_> I'm using php4
[04:25] <Seveas> jo_, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[04:25] <Jowi> Suprano: no
[04:25] <Seveas> and restart apache
[04:25] <Seveas> Suprano, the lock is there for a reason...
[04:25] <Suprano> hrm
[04:25] <Suprano> ok
[04:25] <psusi> for text like email, 7zip in ppmd mode works much faster than lzma mode... and compresses about as well
[04:25] <jo_> I did it all and ven created simlinks to mods-enabled
[04:26] <Seveas> jo_, if the symlinks in mods-enabled are there, you just need to restert aapche
[04:26] <brasko> when I open xmms I get
[04:26] <brasko> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:26] <brasko> has anyone seen that before?
[04:26] <jo_> Which i did. /etc/init.d/apache2 restart whith no success :(
[04:27] <Seveas> jo_, ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[04:27] <Myrtti> try httpd restart
[04:27] <GenghisKhan> brasko: how did you install xmms
[04:27] <Seveas> output on the pastebin
[04:27] <brasko> through the package managaer
[04:27] <brasko> synaptic
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 36 2006-01-04 15:12 cgi.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/cgi.load
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 37 2006-01-04 15:08 php4.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 37 2006-01-04 15:09 php4.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.load
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 40 2005-11-21 11:40 userdir.conf -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf
[04:27] <jo_> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 40 2005-11-21 11:40 userdir.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.load
[04:28] <brasko> I was wondering, does anyone use freeNX, and get sound through it?
[04:28] <Pheinox> thanks for your time
[04:28] <Pheinox> totem now works ok
[04:28] <brasko> I installed freeNX cause everyone here was raving about it. It's really great.
[04:28] <GenghisKhan> brasko: you need to install libmikmod for xmms to work
[04:28] <brasko> wierd
[04:28] <brasko> I guess synaptic should know about that, eh?
[04:29] <Seveas> since when is pastebin too difficult...
[04:29] <Pheinox> still im thinking of making a script to automate install of complement decoders for totem/mplayer/xmms/etc
[04:29] <Seveas> don't
[04:29] <luk3> hey does anyone knows if ubuntu 5.10 works in a 64 bits machine?
[04:29] <Seveas> use a pacjage, not a script
[04:29] <luk3> also...
[04:29] <brasko> SHould I install libmikmod2 or libmikmod2-dev
[04:29] <Seveas> (hint: ubuntu-multimedia-gnome from my repo ;))
[04:29] <GenghisKhan> brasko: libmikmod2
[04:30] <Seveas> luk3, sure
[04:30] <jo_>   sorry connection dropped
[04:30] <Pheinox> Seveas, what is pacjage ?
[04:30] <Seveas> package*
[04:30] <brasko> GenghisKhan: should I create a bug report for the xmms package?
[04:30] <luk3> i gotta a problem with my optical mouse
[04:30] <luk3> it's freezing after logging in..
[04:30] <GenghisKhan> brasko: it has libmikmod2 marked as recommend
[04:30] <blue-frog> Pheinox, automatix has done it already, you can also copy all the info on the wiki and put that in a script..
[04:30] <jo_> Seveas: I'm using kubuntu which I think is not an issue
[04:30] <thoreauputic> jo_: actually seveas kicked you out for pasting
[04:31] <luk3> i am fresh at linux systems so.....
[04:31] <Seveas> jo_, pasting into the channel is an issue
[04:31] <GenghisKhan> if it won't boot without it installed you should fill in a bug report
[04:31] <Seveas> NEVER do that
[04:31] <Pheinox> Seveas, i call from packages still i dont want to do it by hand... so using a script calling apt-get and change the universe and multiverse stuff is simpler just having a script doing it iall
[04:31] <jo_> Ok as you asked for an ls :)
[04:31] <brasko> GenghisKhan: Thanks! that fixed the problem.
[04:31] <Seveas> Pheinox, such scripts break thing
[04:31] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I've never, in my life, had such efficeint help with linux.
[04:31] <Seveas> look at the automatix and easybreezy disasters
[04:31] <brasko> GenghisKhan: So, it appears to be running, but I don't hear anything (I'm remote)
[04:31] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[04:31] <ubotu> I guess automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[04:32] <brasko> So, I suppose freeNX doesn't forward sound? I don't know.
[04:32] <GenghisKhan> brasko: of course! when that happens, use packages.ubuntu.com to find the package wich has the file you lack
[04:32] <Pheinox> blue-frog, I see ... im just using ubundu's liveCD when i want to run on other machines that i dont ow
[04:32] <Seveas> those are such scripts and they triggered massive amounts of reinstalls already
[04:32] <Seveas> brasko, it does
[04:32] <GenghisKhan> brasko: then you'll need to setup remote sound
[04:32] <Pheinox> Seveas, what would it break
[04:32] <nagyv> Hello!I use Ubuntu 5.10 with KDE, and have a pcmcia problem. It is recognized by the system, but I can not enable it. Although it was working in the past days without any problems. Have can I try to enable it from the console?
[04:32] <brasko> I clicked on the button. The wierd thing is, I had sound when gnome started.
[04:32] <Seveas> Pheinox, quite a lot
[04:32] <brasko> And it appears that xmms is working, but I don't hear anything
[04:32] <Pheinox> Seveas, ui cant see how that would brak a liveCD run
[04:33] <thoreauputic> brasko: change the output plugin to esound
[04:33] <GenghisKhan> brasko: configure xmms to use gnome's sound daemon
[04:33] <aTypical> Hello.  Did anyone here using Dapper experience a locale issue when doing a dist-upgrade?  If so, can you tell me how you fixed it?
[04:33] <Pheinox> having the sript on my own maching at home etc and remotely accessing it from a live CD to enable totem to play all files etc
[04:33] <Suprano> yuhu amarok plays music :))
[04:33] <Pheinox> just to bypass some wierd license philosophy
[04:33] <Suprano> is wmv decoded too?
[04:33] <brasko> OK, I'll try that, but I really didn't enjoy using the sound daemon's
[04:34] <brasko> which is why I bought the sound card that I have, to get hardware mixing
[04:34] <GenghisKhan> brasko: you'll need sound daemon for remote sound
[04:34] <jo_> Seveas: Any idea?
[04:34] <GenghisKhan> brasko: btw which card did you bought?
[04:35] <brasko> GenghisKhan: Wow, switching to esound definatly made me get sound.
[04:35] <flogiston> Is gnome-terminal and xfterm4 the same?
[04:35] <brasko> GenghisKhan: That's crazy!
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I don't understand why.
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I bought the SB Live! EMU10k1 card
[04:36] <GenghisKhan> brasko: because esound does the remote sound thing and /dev/dsp not
[04:36] <thoreauputic> flogiston: appears to be
[04:36] <meepy> How do I compile my C code, when I try the "gcc -o test.c" it i get "No files" or soemthing? :/
[04:36] <GenghisKhan> meepy: gcc test.c -o test
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I see. Well, it's very impressive.
[04:36] <thoreauputic> flogiston: if it's any different I can't see the difference :)
[04:36] <gnomefreak> for missing packages during update to fix isnt the command apt-get upgrade --fix missing?
[04:36] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I can't really believe it.
[04:37] <psusi> gcc -o output_file_name input.c
[04:37] <kemik> meepy:  -o defines the name of the binary
[04:37] <Ng> brasko: weird, I have a Live and I don't need to use esd or anything to get sound (in fact I positively choose not to because like you I don't like sound servers)
[04:37] <Manifold> Guys, I can't figure out how to remove the HD icons from my desktop.
[04:37] <flogiston> Becaus i have xfce4-utils installed and i just uninstalled gnome-terminal and i can't start xfterm4 from run.
[04:37] <Ng> Manifold: there's a gconf key you can set for that...
[04:37] <meepy> se
[04:37] <meepy> c
[04:37] <kemik> Manifold:  unmount ;)
[04:37] <gnomefreak> Manifold, right click it send to wastebasket
[04:37] <Manifold> Noo.
[04:37] <brasko> Ng: I remote right now. I'm using freeNX.
[04:37] <Manifold> It doesn't let me, gnomefreak
[04:38] <Manifold> I browse to the Desktop folder and it aint there.
[04:38] <brasko> Ng: So, I'm at work, and can listen to the sound I'm playing at home via xmms
[04:38] <Suprano> how can i let more then 1 app use the sound uotput ?
[04:38] <Ng> Manifold: Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor, then browse to /apps/nautilus/desktop and untick volumes_visible
[04:38] <Ng> brasko: ahh, yes you'll need a sound server for that ;)
[04:38] <brasko> FreeNX is absolutly amazing.
[04:39] <GenghisKhan> vnc & remote X is enough for me
[04:39] <Manifold> Thanks Ng.
[04:39] <brasko> Ng: I don't know, coming from user older systems, it took me *forever* to setup the sound, so that multiple apps could use it. Buying that card was the cheapest/quickest solutoin back then.
[04:39] <Jowi> Suprano: in gnome you tell the apps to use esd, in kde it should be arts ( right? )
[04:39] <Ng> brasko: it still is
[04:40] <Ng> brasko: it's surprising that roughly a decade after the emu10k1 first came out in a soundcard that most others haven't started hardware mixing yet ;/
[04:40] <_ian_> hi which ubuntu application is like an organizer?
[04:40] <Ng> _ian_: Evolution can handle contacts, calenders and todo lists?
[04:40] <Seveas> _ian_, evolution
[04:40] <kemik> _ian_:  evolution perhaps?
[04:40] <Suprano> Jowi, i use alsa
[04:40] <Seveas> Ng, kemik, :)
[04:40] <GenghisKhan> brasko: i have a intel card and i setup dmix and all the apps with alsa share the sound now
[04:41] <kemik> i blame lag!
[04:41] <kemik> :>
[04:41] <Suprano> Jowi,  amarok says: alsa device default is already used by an other program
[04:41] <flogiston> Where do  configure xterm?
[04:41] <Suprano> so i have to use esd ??
[04:41] <Suprano> instead of alsa ?
[04:41] <Jowi> Suprano: me too. but alsa only support hardware mixing if your soundcard can do it itself. esd and arts do software mixing if you need it but your card does not support it in hardware.
[04:41] <gnomefreak> ok cant figure this out :(( i tried apt-get --fix missing but it didnt work :((
[04:42] <Suprano> i thought my soundcard can do it.. ac97 onboard..
[04:42] <Jowi> Suprano: at least that's what i've understood from it all
[04:42] <joshi> Is Unreal Tournament GOTY on 2 cds?
[04:43] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: mine is ac97 also and cannot
[04:43] <jo_> Anyone has any idea on how to get php files parsed?
[04:43] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: you can setup dmix
[04:43] <_ian_> hmmm....like a journal?
[04:43] <_ian_> anyways ill try it thanks
[04:44] <Suprano> dmix, a software mixer ?
[04:44] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: dmix is alsa's superfast software mixer
[04:45] <meepy> Is there any libs I need for when compiling C code? (Sorry total newbie)
[04:45] <GenghisKhan> meepy: libc. install build-essential
[04:45] <thoreauputic> meepy:  install build-essential  for a start
[04:45] <thoreauputic> ;)
[04:45] <meepy> Thanks, I give it a try
[04:45] <Suprano> GenghisKhan, can you give me a hint where i can find this?
[04:45] <morphix> any video i play in totem.. is in fast motion
[04:45] <Jowi> dmix not found in the repos
[04:46] <morphix> any reasons why?
[04:46] <thoreauputic> dmix isn't a package
[04:46] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: one sec, let me look for it
[04:46] <thoreauputic> it's part of alsa
[04:46] <Suprano> ok
[04:46] <Jowi> ah. is dmix activated by default?
[04:46] <gnomefreak> well that was no help :((
[04:46] <GenghisKhan> Jowi: no
[04:46] <AtomicB_> anyone have any experince getting twin view working on an Nvidia card? (using a 6800GT)
[04:47] <Jowi> how can it be set up? alsactl has no reference of it
[04:47] <GenghisKhan> Suprano: have a look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Jowi: no, you use a ~/.asoundrc file or an /etc/  file
[04:47] <Jowi> thoreauputic: ah, alright
[04:47] <flogiston> Whats the terminal of you choice?
[04:47] <aTypical> gnome-terminal. :-)
[04:47] <thoreauputic> Jowi:  /usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples/asound.conf_dmix
[04:48] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: yakuake
[04:48] <Jowi> cheers thoreauputic
[04:48] <flogiston> I like to find one thats light configureble and has transparancy.
[04:48] <gnomefreak> what is synaptics smart upgrade
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Jowi: from memory that's a good starting point
[04:49] <thoreauputic> flogiston: aterm, Eterm, urxvt
[04:49] <Jowi> thoreauputic: yep, that basicly covers it :)
[04:49] <brasko> OK, well it is definatly working.
[04:49] <riccardo> Hi. I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.12-10. But it doesn't boot. I get "Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS". Solution?
[04:49] <brasko> For some reason, when I start the sound though, I can't stop it.
[04:49] <thoreauputic> flogiston: to get transparency you ude the -tr option
[04:49] <thoreauputic> *use
[04:49] <brasko> xmms becomes unresponsive, and even when I kill it, it keeps playing
[04:49] <brasko> Probably freeNX just stinks for this sort of thing?
[04:50] <GenghisKhan> brasko: dunno. test other player maybe
[04:50] <brasko> GenghisKhan: haha, I don't even know any. Do you have an example of a good one?
[04:51] <meepy> thoreauputic: I got it installed, still got some errors, can't I get like all the libs? Hehe
[04:51] <GenghisKhan> brasko: of course. mplayer :-)
[04:51] <brasko> GenghisKhan: I've been using xmms for so long, and I use winamp on windows.
[04:51] <thoreauputic> meepy: it depends what you are compiling really
[04:51] <brasko> GenghisKhan: ouch, not installed by default.
[04:52] <thoreauputic> meepy: you might want to install xlibs-dev and a few others
[04:52] <GenghisKhan> brasko: just joking. mplayer has no gui
[04:52] <jo_> Can someone give an help please?
[04:52] <diesel> Anyone know how to get mms (streaming video) to play within firefox?
[04:52] <GenghisKhan> brasko: well, gmplayer, but is a gui for playing videos
[04:52] <GenghisKhan> brasko: if you want a real player use amarok
[04:52] <meepy> thoreauputic: got it already, okay, thanks anyway
[04:52] <brasko> GenghisKhan: OK, I'll look at it
[04:53] <AtomicB_> anyone have any experince getting twin view working on an Nvidia card? (using a 6800GT) sorry, but getting bored of having a garbled second display :D
[04:53] <thoreauputic> meepy: if the compiler complains about libs, look for -dev lib ( eg libfoo-dev)
[04:54] <Jowi> thoreauputic, Suprano : simply copied the example file to ~/.asound and it works flawlessly.
[04:54] <thoreauputic> Jowi: yup that's more or less what I did too :)
[04:54] <brasko> GenghisKhan: amarok is for KDE, I'd have to install tons of stuff I think
[04:54] <GenghisKhan> brasko: gnome has a similar player called rythmbox
[04:55] <thoreauputic> brasko: amarok is a very nice player indeed - it's worth the KDE libs download
[04:55] <Jowi> diesel: I installed realplayer from real.com
[04:55] <flogiston> yakuake seems nice.
[04:56] <thoreauputic> brasko: but other players are lighter on resources
[04:56] <flogiston> But i can't write in it and it crashes when adding reomiving tabs
[04:56] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: i have no problems with it
[04:56] <orhs> hey guys i need som help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card"
[04:57] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: maybe you have not installed konsole. it uses a konsole kpart
[04:57] <flogiston> Ok maybe it's because i'm not running KDE.
[04:57] <gnomefreak> flogiston, thats a good reason :)
[04:58] <Stork> how can i write an iso to a disk in ubuntu
[04:58] <Suprano> ahm
[04:58] <orhs> when i acces the network configurator i see the card but it takes long time to activate and when i close network configurator and re-open it the card is no longer active
[04:58] <flogiston> Whats kpart?
[04:58] <Ng> Stork: right click on it and choose Write To Disc
[04:58] <slept> how do I specify amd64 for sources.list ? is there a 64bit irc channel ?
[04:58] <Ng> slept: you don't, apt chooses the architecture itself
[04:58] <gnomefreak> flogiston, kpart is a partionign tool like gparted i think
[04:59] <GenghisKhan> flogiston: kpart is a kde system to embed one app into another. for example, both konqui and akregator use khtml so you can use the to render html
[04:59] <brasko> Thansk guys. See you later.
[04:59] <flogiston> Ahaa.
[05:00] <davidwinter_> hey all. are there nVidia drivers available for ubuntu? I'd like to play a game (Enemy Territory).
[05:00] <flogiston> Where can i find the config file for yakauke?
[05:00] <Suprano> Jowi, i have a 0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
[05:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell davidwinter_ about nvidia
[05:00] <Suprano> Jowi,  so hardware mixing should be possible..
[05:00] <davidwinter_> thanks gnomefreak
[05:00] <davidwinter_> :)
[05:00] <gnomefreak> yw david
[05:01] <Suprano> Jowi, i want to use my digital output..
[05:01] <Manifold> Why can't I select sound drivers in Rhythmbox?
[05:01] <slept> ng so how apt know what to download ?
[05:01] <Jowi> Suprano: ok. well. i'm no soundcard expert :)
[05:01] <Suprano> i need one ;)
[05:01] <orhs> i bought this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" it takes long time to activate and when i close the networking application (system, adm, networking) and re-open it the card is no longer activated.
[05:02] <Ng> slept: I'm not entirely sure, but I assume it is set when its compiled. I am picking up that you want to use apt to install the 64bit version over the 32bit version - if so, don't ;)
[05:03] <Jowi> Suprano: did the .asoundrc file not work for you?
[05:03] <Suprano> no
[05:03] <Jowi> :(
[05:03] <Suprano> .. maybee because i have digital sound..
[05:03] <Suprano> GenghisKhan, i getting crazy.. i have no idea what to do.. i just know i have a 0 [nForce2        ] : NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
[05:03] <Suprano>  card and i want more then 1 program playing sound. I turned asla on some where and i created a configurationfile in which i told asla to use the digital output..
[05:05] <slept> Ng: no i was looking at the sources.list and i was wondering how the available 64 bit things get chosen
[05:05] <Ng> slept: by having a 64bit apt I believe
[05:05] <orhs> hey guys can i have som help plz? i see my wifi card in the networking section but even when its activated it dosen't work(the card deactivates itself when i re-open the networking application)
[05:05] <davidwinter_> how do I know if I'm running the 386 or 686 kernel?
[05:06] <slept> davidwinter_: uname -r
[05:06] <davidwinter_> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:06] <davidwinter_> 386 then ;) thanks slept
[05:07] <gnomefreak> days like today i miss breezy
[05:07] <slept> Ng: thanks
[05:08] <pa_l> #mysql
[05:08] <tRSS> is there an app out there that would tell me the name and artist of the song by analyzing the music/sound itself?
[05:08] <pa_l> hi is there any between syntax for mysql?
[05:09] <Ng> pa_l: mysql.com has extensive documentation with syntax and examples
[05:09] <morphix> tRSS: that would be some pretty high-tech stuff
[05:10] <Jowi> tRSS: the closest you will probably find is the cdplayer that downloads the cd song info from an internet database.
[05:10] <stark-johan> Is it possible to install debian binary packages (deb-files) if there is no synaptic package to install? I saw somebody posting a debian package at the forums as an alternative but I want to be sure before I try to install it.
[05:10] <deep> i have a problem with all my media players
[05:10] <pi9inE> Hi all! I'm back again. So I've downloaded DVD .iso offical one from offical web. When I'm trying to burn it like bootable CD it works from Nero, but after that when I insert it in my laptop, to try to install it, it says somekind of error 602, some shit. Always same problem. Yesterday I had this problem with CD .iso. Please, help me out, I wanna install and try Linux.
[05:10] <Jowi> stark-johan: "sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb"
[05:10] <deep> they dont play any format... could anybody tell me what to do
[05:10] <tRSS> morphix: I have heard of musixbrainz or something like that, but I am not sure if that will do? I have alot of track 1 (syntax) songs and I have lost the original CDs to know the artist info
[05:11] <slept> !mp3
[05:11] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:11] <cyphase> deep, you probably have to install gstreamer and all it's plugins
[05:11] <stark-johan> Jowi > yep, I got that but is it a "dumb" way to install or are the debian packages for any program usable with ubuntu?
[05:12] <blue-frog> pi9inE, install from hdd. look in the wiki to find out how
[05:12] <Jowi> stark-johan: from my experience "most" debian packages work if you have the correct dependencies for it as well. that is, if the deb is fairly recent it probably work fine. but that's an unofficial answer from me :)
[05:12] <Ng> stark-johan: you should be very careful using third party .deb's - if it's not from the ubuntu repositories then it may well not work
[05:12] <pi9inE> blue-forg: thanks, I'll try. btw. I've cleaned my 2nd partition of HDD, now is there 23,6Gb would be this enough?
[05:13] <blue-frog> pi9inE, y
[05:13] <pi9inE> blue-frog: thanks dude
[05:13] <Jowi> stark-johan: the ubunto repos has a vast amount of software already. best/safe bet is to use them first of all
[05:14] <ILF_> anyone know a working .deb / repo for k9copy? marillat's doesn't work in breezy :(
[05:15] <Jowi> stark-johan: if I don't find it in the repos, and it doesn't work well with the deb, I usually find the sources and take it from there.
[05:15] <stark-johan> Ng, Jowi > As an example the latest version of ScummVM available via synaptic is 0.7.1 but at the official homepage of ScummVM they have newer debian packages. Is compiling from source better than a debian package?
[05:15] <Badm4n> anyone know the packaged ( the good one ) for bug management like as http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/other/eventum/ or http://flyspray.rocks.cc/
[05:15] <joshi> is there some program that burns mdf/mds files on cd's for linux?
[05:16] <ForceAbuser> i got a hda3 partiton, wich i formattd as fat32, i see it on my desktop, and i could acces it, now yesterday somebody told me to enable write rights on it or so, how do i do this?
[05:16] <Jowi> stark-johan: no idea about that specific one.
[05:16] <stark-johan> Jowi > But in general?
[05:17] <Ng> stark-johan: compiling from source may be better - you just need to accept and realise that if you're going to experiment with these things, they might break ;)
[05:17] <Kibou> joshi: no
[05:18] <Jowi> stark-johan: there is no "in general" for that. compiling from source is most a safe bet, but I use unofficial debs as well since i am lazy and my system is only a hobby one
[05:18] <Jowi> Ng is right about that one
[05:18] <Suprano> grmllinux just crashed
[05:18] <Suprano> but now the sound works O_o
[05:18] <deep> got another problem... why the heck doesnt my pc save my dns server i have to change it every 20 minutes or somethin
[05:18] <Ng> the only other thing worth keeping in mind is that third party debs make dist-upgrading harder, so you might want to remove them before you upgrade when dapper releases
[05:19] <stark-johan> Jowi, Ng > I don't mind experimenting as long as I don't risk to screw my system up completely.... but should an installation go wrong or not work. How can I uninstall after a "make install" or/and "dpkg -i"?
[05:19] <Badm4n> anyone know the packaged ( the good one ) for bug management like as http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/other/eventum/ or http://flyspray.rocks.cc/
[05:19] <Suprano> but still only 1 app can use the sound
[05:19] <Ng> stark-johan: dpkg -r or make uninstall usually
[05:19] <joshi> Kibou thnx
[05:19] <Jowi> stark-johan: apt-get remove packagename or use synaptic. after you install it with dpkg -i it will show up in the list
[05:19] <Ng> stark-johan: if you don't start replacing core system libraries/applications you ought to be fine really, especially if you're building them yourself
[05:20] <psusi> Badm4n: I use mantis
[05:20] <stark-johan> The debian pkg's show up in synaptic? Cool, I had no idea.
[05:20] <Jowi> stark-johan: if you do compile from source, remember to keep that directory so you can uninstall it.
[05:20] <Badm4n> url ?
[05:20] <Ng> stark-johan: in the Local or Obsolete section
[05:21] <Badm4n> so i can check the demo
[05:21] <rance> I need to ask a question about a new kubuntu install, yea I know, that damn kde :-) well this has to do with scanner recognition...sudo scanimage -L can detect my scanner, but scanimage -L cant, so why cant a regular user use a scanner?
[05:22] <bakpao> www.mantisbt.org
[05:22] <stark-johan> Jowi, Ng > Thanks for all the tips. I'll try them out right away.
[05:22] <Jowi> stark-johan: you're welcome
[05:23] <stark-johan> One last qeustion, what kind of sources shoul I use in case there are alternatives? (tar.bz2, tar.gz, zip, rpm)
[05:23] <Jowi> rance: is the user in the scanner group?
[05:23] <Manifold> I've asked this before, but which directory are programs installed to?
[05:23] <deep> got another problem... why the heck doesnt my pc save my dns server i have to change it every 20 minutes or somethin
[05:23] <rance> Jowi, no, didnt know there was a scanner group
[05:24] <rance> but I know how to fix it if that is the problem
[05:24] <Jowi> stark-johan: doesn't matter. tar.gz/bz2/zip are safe
[05:24] <stark-johan> Ok, thanks again.
[05:24] <ForceAbuser> "6.12.	
[05:24] <ForceAbuser> How do I change files/folders permissions?
[05:24] <ForceAbuser> Right click the file or folder. Select the Properties option. Select the Permissions tab. For the Owner, Group and Others check/uncheck the Read, Write, Execute options to set or unset permissions."
[05:24] <Jowi> rance: cat /etc/group, edit as needed
[05:24] <pi9inE> blue-frog: I can't find how to install from HDD, sorry :( can you help me please?
[05:25] <Badm4n> hmmm
[05:25] <ForceAbuser> only i see the crosses in grey (non editable)(oops, that should be one line....,)
[05:26] <rance> deep: what dns server are you using?
[05:26] <Badm4n> mantis <--- is this fit on bug management for software/aplication bug tracking ?
[05:26] <Manifold> I've asked this before, but which directory are programs installed to?
[05:26] <deep> its sthing in egypt
[05:26] <psusi> Badm4n: yes... it's a bug tracking package
[05:26] <Rubin> Manifold: its complex, but try /usr/bin/
[05:26] <Manifold> Thank you.
[05:27] <Rubin> also, dpkg -L packagename <-- shows you all the files that package installed
[05:27] <deep> rance. its some server in egypt
[05:27] <pawdro> hi, im trying to run gdm as a root: but i get error: gdm_config_parse:Authdir /var/lib/gdm deos not exist. Aborting.
[05:27] <pawdro> what to do?
[05:27] <rance> manifold, most non-X programs are in /usr/bin admin (root) only are in /usr/sbin or /sbin X related stuff goes in /usr/xorg/bin
[05:28] <pawdro> to fix it
[05:28] <rance> just look around till you find it
[05:28] <Rubin> pawdro: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:28] <Nomikos> having issues installing Ubuntu on a powerbook, installer gives error that it can't find the cd rom, even though it booted from it.. no floppy drive. is a network install doable?
[05:29] <rance> deep: you mean you dont control your own dns server, or do you mean that you are running your own dns server for a network and its losing connection to the master dns
[05:29] <Nomikos> seems to be a known debian installer issue, something with SATA drivers being loaded in the wrong order
[05:30] <Rubin> Nomikos: you may have to make a custom install cd with a kernel which doesnt do it, or maybe a boot paramiter could fix it somehow?
[05:30] <pawdro> and nothing happened
[05:31] <pawdro> the same error: gdm_config_parse
[05:31] <bakpao> !id
[05:31] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[05:31] <Jowi> pawdro: try to reinstall gdm
[05:31] <Rubin> pawdro: did you install gdm with apt?
[05:32] <pawdro> Rubin: by default instalator
[05:32] <Badm4n> is mantis like http://flyspray.rocks.cc/ or http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/other/eventum/ ?
[05:32] <Rubin> pawdro: like jowi says, try re-installing; apt-get remove --purge gdm; apt-get install gdm
[05:32] <deep> rrance, what happens is that everytime i log in... i have to write the dns server again in the ethernet connection winow(meaning i write this every time 213.131.65.21  and the alternative dns server too )
[05:33] <Rubin> deep: sounds like its being overwritten by the DHCP client
[05:33] <deep> Rubin: what could i do
[05:33] <Rubin> deep: theres a way to tell it not to, but im afraid i dont remember what it is, sorry :/
[05:33] <Jowi> deep: sudo network-admin and enter the DNS manually solve it?
[05:34] <Jowi> hmmm, forgot a "does" in that sentence :)
[05:34] <rance> ok, yea, that is your network configuration somehow, DHCP can send gateway, nameserver, and even hostname if configured to do so, but the client needs to be able to use only what it needs
[05:34] <pawdro> Rubin: the same problem
[05:35] <Nomikos> hmm.. can I boot from CD, then install from network? if so, do I need a custom CD? and how do I get one :-)
[05:35] <rance> I'd double check the network setup and make sure your custom dns is not overwritten by dhcp
[05:35] <pawdro> but when i want to log as a normal user i cant, but get: Unable to cd to "/home/user"
[05:36] <Jowi> pawdro: did you by any chance re-install the system without formatting the /home/ partition? if so, the users id numbers may be messed up...
[05:36] <deep> rance: do wanna tell me that if i am using dhcp it would overwrite my dns server .. so all i have to do is cancel dns server and do it manually
[05:37] <jose> hhhhh
[05:37] <}MatriX{> hello
[05:37] <}MatriX{> ubuntu
[05:37] <pawdro> no way Jowi
[05:38] <rance> no deep, do a man on your dhcp client and look at the command options
[05:38] <rance> then edit your network setup script to only get the options you want
[05:38] <Jowi> pawdro: ok, just a shot in the dark.
[05:38] <rance> then the rest will remain the same
[05:38] <jahshua--> hey anyone here use Limewire with Ubuntu  ?
[05:38] <Suprano> Jowi, how to use the spdif output with esd ???
[05:39] <davidwinter2> hey all. I got my nvidia drivers working, but no sound is working in Enemy Territory game. Though it's working in gnome, like when I click on things etc...
[05:39] <davidwinter2> do I need to install special sound drivers for games? :/
[05:39] <monzie> hi all
[05:39] <}MatriX{> anyone
[05:39] <gnomefreak> damnit
[05:39] <}MatriX{> knows
[05:39] <Suprano> davidwinter2, maybee esd helps you .. system -> prefs -> multimediasys
[05:40] <Jowi> Suprano: don't know, I don't use esd at all
[05:40] <pawdro> Jowi: i assume that i have to reinstall whole system
[05:40] <}MatriX{> hMm
[05:40] <}MatriX{> anyone
[05:40] <}MatriX{> knows
[05:40] <}MatriX{> vmware
[05:40] <Suprano> hrm
[05:40] <Jowi> pawdro: i doubt it
[05:40] <Rubin> davidwinter2: either configure the game to use the 'esound' daemon to play sounds, or configure gnome to let go of the sound device when its not being used, so that the game can use it
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ahhh its fixed
[05:40] <Jowi> pawdro: maybe the gdm config files is not overwritten when gdm is re-installed...?
[05:41] <davidwinter2> Rubin, do I do that in the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[05:41] <Rubin> pawdro: did you do it with --purge?
[05:41] <pawdro> Jowi: yes
[05:41] <davidwinter2> Suprano, I'm in there
[05:41] <}MatriX{> hMM
[05:41] <pawdro> as it was mentioned
[05:41] <Rubin> davidwinter2: no
[05:41] <Suprano> davidwinter2, that was just a hint, i have trouble myself getting this running
[05:42] <davidwinter2> Suprano, ah I see
[05:42] <jahshua--> hey anyone here use Limewire with Ubuntu  ?
[05:42] <Jowi> pawdro: does any other work, like xdm, wdm, kdm ?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  i recall a wiki page about it.
[05:42] <DShepherd> jahshua--: sure
[05:43] <geoffTheFish> has anybody managed to get a usb microphone working?
[05:43] <pawdro> i only have gnome
[05:43] <pawdro> Jowi: i cant even lag as a normal user
[05:43] <pawdro> :/
[05:43] <davidwinter2> Rubin, can't see a setting in the game to use 'esound' so I'll need to configure gnome... is there a preference window for that?
[05:44] <monzie> i need help with desktop environments..
[05:44] <Rubin> davidwinter2: hmm i cant find where, maybe it was from the previous ubuntu release and its gone somewhere else
[05:44] <Jowi> pawdro: what is the exact error?
[05:44] <monzie> should i used GNOME or KDE?
[05:44] <jahshua--> GNOME
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  use them both - then decide what you like.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  i mix and match gnome and kde apps on whatever desktop i use
[05:44] <monzie> hmm Dr_Willis ..
[05:45] <pawdro> Jowi: if i want to log as a "user" i get Unable to cd "/home/user"
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> its not a "one or the other" type of thing.
[05:45] <Jowi> monzie: don't listen to them. this is the most important decision in your life. use ice-wm so you don't end up in the desktop war!!!
[05:45] <monzie> but doesn't using both make them slow?? Dr_Willis
[05:45] <jahshua--> i cant find limewire when i search synaptic and i have all the repos open
[05:45] <jahshua--> :/
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  not really.
[05:45] <jahshua--> can anyone help me out
[05:45] <pawdro> Jowi: if i want to start gdm (as a root ofcourse) i get: gdm_config_parse: Authdir /var/lib/gdm does not exist. Aborting.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  check the wiki in the  p2p section yet?
[05:46] <monzie> i have seen that KDE apps take a lot of time to load in GNOME and vice-versa Dr_Willis
[05:46] <pawdro> Jowi: the same with /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:46] <Rubin> pawdro: sounds like your install got borked somehow
[05:46] <monzie> Hey Jowi , what about XFCE?
[05:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tha's because KDE apps take a long time to load ;)
[05:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> GO GNOME
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  yes. both of them have several 'support' programs that run in the background.
[05:46] <pawdro> Rubin: but the system was used by this user
[05:46] <jahshua--> Dr_Willis do you have a link, i dont know which wiki you are referring to :/
[05:46] <Jowi> pawdro: it seems like gdm is not installed
[05:46] <Rubin> pawdro: could be a permissions problem
[05:46] <pawdro> Rubin: and sometime ago something's broken as you see
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> XFCE4 for example can preload the gnome and kde services - so you dont novice it.
[05:47] <Rubin> pawdro: ls -ld /home/username
[05:47] <Rubin> is it there?
[05:47] <monzie> and KDE apps look horrible in GNOME and vice versa Dr_Willis too!
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  go to the wiki page  and use the search feature
[05:47] <pawdro> Rubin: i gave 777 to /home/eser
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  set your themes corectly
[05:47] <Jowi> monzie: actually, xfce4, gnome, kde, icewm, fluxbox, sawfish are all good. just different
[05:47] <Rubin> pawdro: i dont deal in binary file permissions, sorry :)
[05:47] <jahshua--> Dr_Willis which wiki page ?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> I  got mine set - where i can barely tell if an app is gnome or kde.
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  the one in the Topic perhaps.. THE ubuntu wiki page.
[05:48] <pawdro> Rubin and i did it recursively
[05:48] <AtomicB_> woah.. anyone else had problems using the nvidia driver? I just tried it and just get a blank screen :(
[05:48] <Rubin> pawdro: whats 777?
[05:48] <Suprano> how to turn esd to digital output? (i know that it is device 2..)
[05:48] <jahshua--> Dr_Willis aah great thanks !
[05:48] <monzie> enlightenment Dr_Willis ? how about that.. i am actually a CDE user on solaris..
[05:48] <Jowi> monzie: i use a combination of Oroborus + fbpanel myself and I replaced gdm with slim. And use rox-filer. it is now a wickedly fast desktop
[05:48] <pawdro> chmod 777 /home/user
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  dont use Enlightment. if you like CDE - check out 'XFCE'
[05:49] <monzie> oroborus Jowi ? what is that?
[05:49] <Rubin> pawdro: yeah but i dont deal in numeric permission codes as a matter of principle. whats 777 in user/group/other read/write/execute
[05:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Dr_Willis: People like CDE?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> PuMpErNiCkLe,  it takes all kinds. :P
[05:49] <Ng> people *have* to use CDE, nobody *likes* it ;)
[05:49] <monzie> no , sometimes they have to use it with solaris PuMpErNiCkLe
[05:49] <Jowi> monzie: oroborus is a windowmanager, not super good but very fast and very configurable.
[05:49] <pawdro> rwx
[05:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ah,yes... Solaris...
[05:49] <pawdro> Rubin all for all ;] 
[05:49] <Rubin> pawdro: for everyone? heh ok
[05:50] <Se7h> hi
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> I had that FreeSolaris on a box for all of 1 day :P
[05:50] <Rubin> pawdro: and the directory is there?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> i installed other window managers to it.
[05:50] <Blippe> how do i completely remove gnome/"ubuntu" after a kde/"kubuntu" install?
[05:50] <monzie> I am shifting my college browsing center to linux. I want a "standard" desktop environment with all apps
[05:50] <pawdro> Rubin: yes :)
[05:50] <bugz_> anybody can suggest a good pci-express vga-card for Linux?
[05:50] <Rubin> Blippe: its rather hard :/
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Blippe,  its proberly not worth doing either.
[05:50] <Blippe> Excellent!
[05:50] <monzie> i am on solaris 8 now
[05:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Most anything by nVidia is good.
[05:50] <ForceAbuser> could someone please tell me how to gain write rights on my HDA3?
[05:50] <mwe> Rubin: it's not that hard
[05:50] <monzie> its rock solid
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> bugz_,  depends on your budget.. stick with Nvidia
[05:50] <Rubin> mwe: whats the secret?
[05:51] <monzie> mount hda3 first ForceAbuser
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> ForceAbuser,  is that a windows partion?
[05:51] <monzie> then sudo 777 /mount-point ForceAbuser
[05:51] <pawdro> Rubin: i install now kde, and see if that change anything
[05:51] <monzie> not a good idea though..
[05:51] <ForceAbuser> its mounted (i can see it on my desktop) and its fat32
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  HUH?
[05:51] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: Dr_Willis: i have GeForce 6600 LE, but when installing ubuntu5.10 or fedora4... i got a bad screen output
[05:52] <monzie> sorry, sudo chmod 777 <mount-point>
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> ForceAbuser,  theres a wiki/page just for that 'issue'
[05:52] <Rubin> bugz_: get the binary nvidia driver (see starter guide)
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  normally you dont chmod the mount point that way for Vfat/ntfs partitions.. (or you cant)
[05:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: You may have to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings'
[05:52] <mwe> Rubin: sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common then sudo debfoster
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> the permissions for vfat/ntfs are set when its mounted. using  the umask=  options in most cases
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:52] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[05:53] <stark-johan> The ubuntu logo next to a package in synaptic does mean that the package is not supported according to the swedish translation, is that really correct? Almost every installed package has the logo next to it.
[05:53] <monzie> why not.. is there a problem with that... i found that solves a lot of problems with Ubuntu Dr_Willis
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> that wiki page has details.
[05:53] <Rubin> mwe: cool
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  as far as i know - that shouldent work at all.
[05:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> stark-johan: I think it means it's recommended/supported.
[05:53] <monzie> that works Dr_Willis
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> i dont have any vfat/ntfs to try however at the moment. :P
[05:53] <monzie> unmount your drive
[05:53] <monzie> chmod it
[05:53] <mwe> Rubin: maybe you need to remove ubuntu-desktop before running debfoster as well. but I don't think you have to
[05:54] <monzie> and then an ordinary user can make changes to the fat32 filesystem
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  you are chmoding the mountpoint dir.. the permissions on it should have no affect  when you mount somthing to it.
[05:54] <Rubin> mwe: it should be removed when you remove the other 2, since it depends on them
[05:54] <stark-johan> Pumpernickle > So, the absolute opposite to what the icon explanation box says in the swedish translation.
[05:54] <monzie> yes i know, but in ubuntu it alllows you to modify the contents of your drive then
[05:54] <mwe> Rubin: yeah. right
[05:54] <Markbb-> can someone ban Andrew_ please :<
[05:55] <monzie> otherwise it wont even allow you to create a god damn folder Dr_Willis
[05:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> stark-johan: Probably a translation error :)
[05:55] <Jowi> stark-johan: that does not sound good.
[05:55] <monzie> just try it and see Dr_Willis
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  im thinking the ubuntu auto-mounting stuff is getting in there some where monzie  - ive seen people try that befor and it dident work.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  got none of those partitions on my machines. :P
[05:56] <monzie> nice, fat32's crap anyways Dr_Willis :-)
[05:56] <Markbb-> andrew_ ...
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  but still somthing seems very odd - about that working.. Its possible the ubuntu automounting stuff is some how reading the permissions of the mounting dir.
[05:56] <stark-johan> Jowi > How can I contact the translators? I've notices a few other slight errors in the translation to swedish.
[05:56] <Jowi> stark-johan: ingen aning / no idea :)
[05:57] <Markbb-> ty Seveas
[05:57] <TengkSA> Seveas,  wassup!
[05:57] <stark-johan> Jowi > Ok :-)
[05:57] <Jowi> i miss andrew_ :(
[05:57] <TengkSA> Seveas,  everything's up and running again..
[05:57] <monzie> i am a linux newbie, but using linux for eight years now Dr_Willis
[05:57] <TengkSA> Seveas, but i had to start fresh with both windows and ubuntu
[05:58] <Seveas> TengkSA, too bad :/
[05:58] <Seveas> but good that it's up and running again
[05:58] <TengkSA> What program do you recommend for a JAVA IDE / COMPILER
[05:58] <Seveas> eclipse
[05:58] <monzie> eclip is SLOW Seveas
[05:59] <Vernon_> TengkSA: see netbeans ide, also
[05:59] <ForceAbuser> i've read on the wiki that i "just" have to check the "write" box, but its grey :(, my guess i have to become root, but how? (also in the wiki?)
[05:59] <mwe> monzie: java is slow
[05:59] <Vernon_> TengkSA: is slightly buggy but very userfriendly
[05:59] <Seveas> monzie, I hardly ever use it, mu favourite IDE is vim, but I can't inflict that pain on newbies :)
[05:59] <bugz_> Dr_Willis: PuMpErNiCkLe: Rubin: i cant install both distro. in fedora4... anaconda give me "NVIDIA Unknown (Generic)" and when loading the graphical installer my screen is not good. (same in ubuntu)
[05:59] <monzie> ForceAbuser, "sudo nautilus --nodeskop --browser "
[05:59] <Jowi> btw, why is sawfish linked with evolution-data-server and gnome-terminal!?
[05:59] <monzie> should do ti
[05:59] <monzie> it
[05:59] <bakpao> eclipse s so slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[05:59] <Seveas> monzie, NO
[05:59] <Seveas> never sudo nautilus
[06:00] <Seveas> if you insist on running nautilus as root: gksudo nautilus
[06:00] <monzie> what Seveas , did not get you. sorry
[06:00] <mwe> eclipse is not that slow on my machine
[06:00] <mwe> eclipse is great
[06:00] <Seveas> monzie, GUI apps should be started with gksudo or kdesu, NOT with sudo
[06:00] <bakpao> i have only 700 Mhz and its really so slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[06:00] <TengkSA> Seveas,  do i download eclipse sdk?
[06:01] <mwe> it takes a long time to start it. but after that it's not slow
[06:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: What kind of monitor do you have?
[06:01] <monzie> why Seveas ? will you tell me? i dont know.. but it works
[06:01] <Seveas> TengkSA, sudo apt-get install eclipse-sdk
[06:01] <[Neo_xx] > whats wrong in this line??  $ sudo gedito rc
[06:01] <Vernon_> it eats 180mb on my machine -.-
[06:01] <Seveas> monzie, otherwise $HOME is not reset, which has been the cause of numerous lockouts already (ie: people cannot login after sudo k3b and so on)
[06:02] <TengkSA> and where do i get netbeans from Vernon_
[06:02] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : $ gksudo gedit filename ?
[06:02] <monzie> ohh, thanks Seveas
[06:02] <ForceAbuser> monzie: will try, brb
[06:02] <Vernon_> TengkSA: from the sun official site
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  and the idea of running nautilus  as root - is a little scary as well eh?
[06:02] <TengkSA> and how do i install it
[06:02] <monzie> use gksudo instead of sudo as Seveas said, ForceAbuser
[06:03] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: ACE or something like that (i forgot... its a crt monitor)
[06:03] <[Neo_xx] > Jowi, was gedit i was typing gedito thanks
[06:03] <Seveas> Dr_Willis, very
[06:03] <Vernon_> TengkSA: is released as a linux binary. execute it (after chmod +x thatbininstaller)
[06:03] <monzie> running anything in X as root ought to be scary Dr_Willis
[06:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: I've had problems with older CRT monitors, but not during install.
[06:04] <] BreliC[> hey everyone... what do i need to install to make the Gnome apps look less ugly in KDE?
[06:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Most likely, you'll have to set the horizontal/vertical sync by kernel paramaters when you boot...
[06:04] <] BreliC[> i switch back and forth, and they look *UGLY* in KDE
[06:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Hang on a sec, I'll find a howto for you.
[06:04] <Seveas> ] BreliC[, gtk2-engine-qt or something
[06:04] <TengkSA> Vernon_, im gonna need ur help once ive downloaded it please :P
[06:04] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: like how?
[06:04] <] BreliC[> Seveas, thanks, i'll look for that
[06:04] <monzie> hey PuMpErNiCkLe , how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <monzie> fixed my monitors problem for me
[06:05] <Vernon_> TengkSA: download the bundle, the netbeans ide + jree
[06:05] <[Neo_xx] > im trying install amsn but it says that i dont have the packages tcl-dev and tk-dev
[06:06] <xhaker> [Neo_xx] , install them
[06:06] <TengkSA> [Neo_xx] , amsn is useless use gaim
[06:06] <Vernon_> amsn sux. wish sux
[06:06] <Seveas> [Neo_xx] , apt-get install amsn
[06:06] <Seveas> don't compile manually
[06:07] <Seveas> (and yeah, wish/tcl is [...censored...] )
[06:07] <xhaker> TengkSA, don't be silly.. i like gaim.. but these days i've been needing to send files at full speed only amsn does that
[06:07] <[Neo_xx] > emmmmmmmm where i cant find info about installa amsn with apt-get i dont know how
[06:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: http://i810fb.sourceforge.net/howto/x83.html
[06:07] <] BreliC[> Seveas, hmm, seems I already have gtk2-engine-gtk-qt installed
[06:07] <TengkSA> xhaker, i think gaim kicks ass
[06:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: search for 'parameters' in that page
[06:07] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:07] <Seveas> [Neo_xx] , enable universe and simply apt-get install amsn
[06:07] <] BreliC[> wonder why the apps still look blocky
[06:07] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : sudo apt-get install packagename
[06:07] <TengkSA> not like real msn but its certainly better than amsn xhaker
[06:07] <xhaker> TengkSA, me too.. so you send files using gaim?
[06:07] <Seveas> !tell [Neo_xx]  about universe
[06:08] <TengkSA> xhaker, yeah but people in south africa mostly have 56k anyway so it doesnt make any diff!!
[06:08] <Nomikos> how can i install from network without floppy drive?
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: then write down the syntax and your monitor's properties on a piece of paper
[06:08] <[Neo_xx] > and where enable universe?
[06:08] <xhaker> even gaim2.0 can't do direct transfers
[06:08] <Seveas> nomasteryoda, bootable cd...
[06:08] <monzie> TengkSA, and in india too!
[06:08] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : however I second the advice of using another client like gaim.
[06:08] <djstillman> Hey all
[06:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: When you go to install, you should be prompted for any special modifications you want to make to the way it boots
[06:09] <djstillman> Any HP Laserjet people here?
[06:09] <TengkSA> monzie, we live in the 2 countries with the highest aids rates in the world
[06:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: And you can write them in there.
[06:09] <[Neo_xx] > and where enable universe?
[06:09] <Seveas> [Neo_xx] , ubotu told you
[06:09] <monzie> India has high aids rates? i am too young to enquire about that anyways TengkSA
[06:09] <TengkSA> monzie, whats the number there? ours is 10million, one in 4 people
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> djstillman,  i got a HP laserjet 6L  - its like 10 yrs old.
[06:10] <TengkSA> monzie, ridiculously high
[06:10] <Seveas> old, but very good
[06:10] <bugz_> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks a lot
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bugz_: Generally, most monitors have the horizontal/vertical refresh rates written on teh back, or you can display them by pressing one of 'adjustment' buttons on the front of the monitor (if there are any)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  they just keep ticking dont they. :P
[06:10] <Seveas> yeah
[06:10] <Seveas> they rock :)
[06:10] <djstillman> Dr_Willis - I have been having a really hard time getting good printouts from my new HP LJ 5si...
[06:10] <TengkSA> is it just me or do downloads go faster with linux than they do with windows
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> i had to replace the ruber rollers once.. with parts from 'fixyourwnprinter.com'
[06:10] <Jowi> bugz_, PuMpErNiCkLe "sudo ddcprobe" should also work
[06:11] <Seveas> TengkSA, :)
[06:11] <djstillman> Dr_Willis - I have tried all of the included drivers, and the HP ones, per their setup, and still only get base printing functionality...
[06:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Jowi: Only if he can see what he's doing ;)
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> djstillman,  when in doubt - its time to check the CUPS homepage and see what they say about that exact printer
[06:12] <Jowi> PuMpErNiCkLe: ah, that MIGHT be true ;)
[06:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out - g2g back to class
[06:13] <mcphail_> Can anyone recommend a digial TV card which is simple to set up under Ubuntu?
[06:13] <Jowi> c u PuMpErNiCkLe
[06:13] <AtomicB_> can anyone help my with the nvidia-glx drivers?
[06:13] <AtomicB_> *help me with
[06:13] <djstillman> What's up AtomicB_ ?
[06:13] <AtomicB_> djstillman, if I edit xorg to use them, I get a blank screen
[06:14] <Nomikos> Seveas: I have the bootable installer CD, will that work? where do I specify "Network" ?
[06:14] <AtomicB_> not quite what I was after :)
[06:14] <djstillman> What all are you editing?  Can you post your file somewhere?
[06:14] <poningru> AtomicB_: have you read the page on the wiki?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mcphail_,  check the MythTV forums/website for the ones they suggest.. budget is an issue as well.
[06:14] <TengkSA> is there a way of changing or saving to your windows hard drives
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> mcphail_,  i was thinking the Haupage PVR2500 was a popular one
[06:14] <AtomicB_> which particular page? sorry read so many last day or two is kind of become a blur
[06:14] <mcphail_> Dr_Willis: thank you
[06:15] <djstillman> Dr_Willis - not seeing much at all for my 5si...  Anywhere else to check?
[06:16] <AtomicB_> poningru, which wiki page specifically?
[06:16] <djstillman> AtomicB_ - what all have you changed?
[06:16] <synic> anyone use juk?
[06:16] <AtomicB_> djstillman, I've got the required nvidia-glx stuff from synaptic
[06:16] <AtomicB_> then edited xorg.conf to use them
[06:16] <ForceAbuser> monzie: back, --nodeskop is not recognised
[06:16] <lotusleaf> synic, amaroK > juk
[06:17] <synic> lotusleaf: it would be if it didn't crash constantly.
[06:17] <AtomicB_> literally just changing nv to nvidia, nothing else
[06:17] <djstillman> Can you post your xorg.conf somewhere to be seen?
[06:17] <lotusleaf> synic, are you using bleeding edge new AmaroK?
[06:17] <AtomicB_> djstillman, sure, one sec
[06:17] <synic> lotusleaf: whatever is in kubuntu
[06:17] <lotusleaf> synic, I haven't experienced any crashes in recent builds
[06:17] <lotusleaf> synic, oh, I compile it myself :)
[06:17] <AtomicB_> djstillman, using this > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6595
[06:17] <AtomicB_> literally with nvidia where nv is
[06:18] <djstillman> Comment out the dri module with a #
[06:18] <AtomicB_> djstillman, thanks, I got the same answer from someone else at exactly the same time
[06:18] <AtomicB_> could you possibly tell me what that does? *curious*
[06:19] <djstillman> It is for ATI cards
[06:19] <Xenguy> Hi - I have successfully installed and configured PPPoE so my DSL connection works, but currently I must invoke a DSL connection manually (with 'pon').  I would like to configure the DSL connection to 1) connect when PC is booted; and 2) attempt to reconnect if DSL connection goes down for some reason.  I used to do this with a script in /etc/init.d/, but now I see a comment that a new method is preferred, one that uses /etc/network/interfaces.  So, 
[06:19] <AtomicB_> djstillman, ok, thanks
[06:20] <djstillman> Welcome.  Later all
[06:20] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: When you do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure pppoe" you can choose to connect on boot.
[06:20] <Xenguy> Tomcat_: OK.  Will that also reconnect if the connection goes down?
[06:21] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: Not sure. I'm working on that problem myself.
[06:21] <[Neo_xx] > Seveas when i enable universe i algo have to enable multiverse?
[06:22] <Xenguy> Tomcat_: Thanks for the tip; I'll try that.  If you find out the best way to configure 'reconnect DSL', please feel free to ping me :-)
[06:23] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: Well I do have it configured already, but sometimes my provider goes down for an hour and after a couple of retries, pppoe stops as well.
[06:23] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , you don't have to, but multiverse does have quite a few packages that people find useful
[06:23] <Tomcat_> Xenguy: But I'm just leaving, so can't tell what config option that reconnect is. Try Google or other people here. :)
[06:23] <monzie> sorry ForceAbuser  it --no-desktop
[06:23] <Xenguy> Tomcat_: thanks again
[06:23] <Jowi> Xenguy, Tomcat_ I haven't used pppoe for a couple of years, but when I did I had an applet in gnome-panel that did that for me.
[06:24] <FiNANCiER> i wonder if u can overdose on green tea
[06:24] <Jowi> a dirt old gnome version though
[06:24] <[Neo_xx] > thanks polpak
[06:25] <Xenguy> Jowi: thanks (tho I would prefer to configure this at some 'non-X' level ideally)
[06:25] <Jowi> Xenguy: of course :)
[06:25] <jm_> bye
[06:25] <rockinchado> does anyone in here know something about tv tuner cards
[06:26] <nukeskyjmpr> rockinchado: yes, they are overpriced :)
[06:26] <pi9inE> since I have still problem with burning that DVD .iso as bootable DVD, I've extracted it and burned it like normal DVD bootable, what you think, will this work?
[06:26] <erUSUL> Xenguy, pppoeconf does not work for you?
[06:26] <poningru> pi9inE: what are you talking about?
[06:26] <rockinchado> nukeskyjmpr, just so happens that got mine for free from someone who thought it would only work on windows 98 cause those were the only drivers he had
[06:26] <pi9inE> poningru: some guys know :)
[06:27] <yahalom> how do i reinstall an app? sudo apt-get ??
[06:27] <nukeskyjmpr> rockinchado: very lucky
[06:27] <pi9inE> since yesterday I'm trying to burn DVD .iso I've downloaded from web
[06:27] <pi9inE> but not working
[06:27] <poningru> yahalom: sudo apt-get remove foobar
[06:27] <pi9inE> i've burned more as 8 DVDs and noone of em want to boot
[06:27] <Suprano> where can i configure my second netcard ?
[06:27] <synic> so does anyone use juk?
[06:27] <rockinchado> nukeskyjmpr, you know anything about workin them in linux though?
[06:27] <nukeskyjmpr> rockinchado: nothing at all, sorry
[06:27] <polpak> pi9inE, how are you burning them?
[06:27] <polpak> pi9inE, you using nero?
[06:27] <pi9inE> polpak: what you mean? yes
[06:27] <nukeskyjmpr> trying to find one myself for linux
[06:27] <yahalom> poningru, i dont want to remove, i want to reinstall
[06:27] <polpak> pi9inE, what option are you using?
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, for the type
[06:28] <pi9inE> polpak: uhm? normal DVD bootable and then boot from .iso
[06:28] <Manifold> Gah.
[06:28] <poningru> yahalom: yes thats what it does
[06:28] <Morg> Is there anything to see how much bandwidth each running process is using?
[06:28] <Manifold> My system's struggling with GNOME.
[06:28] <poningru> thats the command
[06:28] <pi9inE> polpak: i mean write from that .iso
[06:28] <Manifold> Getting lots of slowdown.
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, ah.. No. You need to use DVD image
[06:28] <yahalom> poningru, no that removes it
[06:28] <poningru> yahalom: man apt-get
[06:28] <yahalom> poningru, thanx
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, or something like it
[06:28] <Manifold> What else can I use apart from GNOME and KDE?
[06:28] <Jowi> yahalom: remove +  install = reinstall
[06:28] <polpak> pi9inE, not the bootable option
[06:29] <polpak> Manifold, enlightenment, fluxbox
[06:29] <poningru> yahalom: just install it after removal
[06:29] <[Neo_xx] > polpak i enabled universe but i also have to mark the security updates that says community maintained (universe)?
[06:29] <pi9inE> polpak: aha, cause this is killing me, can't figure out this... getting frustrated
[06:29] <Manifold> Which one's easier to configure.
[06:29] <Manifold> ?
[06:29] <polpak> Manifold, they are both pretty easy
[06:29] <Manifold> Right..
[06:29] <polpak> Manifold, But I find fluxbox to be more stable
[06:29] <Manifold> Hrm.
[06:29] <Manifold> Oki.
[06:29] <Vernon_> Manifold: remember: gnome is not a window manager, is a desktop environment
[06:30] <monzie> and GNOME oversimplifies things, Vernon_
[06:30] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , that'd be wise if you want to get security updates =)
[06:30] <Xenguy> erUSUL: I actually haven't tried pppoeconf
[06:30] <Manifold> Yeah.
[06:30] <poningru> yahalom: I think you should look into synaptic
[06:30] <[Neo_xx] > ok polpak  thanks
[06:30] <erUSUL> Xenguy, why?
[06:30] <Vernon_> Manifold: you can still use metacity if you like it, but without gnome
[06:30] <Manifold> Vernon_, I'm having trouble multitasking on GNOME.
[06:30] <polpak> Manifold, but if you don't want a desktop environment you don't have to use one
[06:30] <yahalom> poningru, apt-get install --reinstall
[06:30] <Manifold> What is metacity?
[06:31] <erUSUL> Xenguy, are you using an usb modem (like myself)?
[06:31] <polpak> Manifold, metacity is the WM for gnome
[06:31] <Vernon_> Manifold: a part of what you call "gnome"
[06:31] <Manifold> !metacity
[06:31] <ubotu> Manifold: What?
[06:31] <polpak> Manifold, it's the window manager
[06:31] <Manifold> I thought Nautilus was.
[06:31] <Vernon_> Manifold: try icewm. or xfce4
[06:31] <polpak> Manifold, no, nautilus is the file manager
[06:31] <Xenguy> erUSUL: I just configured the basic connection by hand; will pppoeconf configure a DSL connection to attempt to re-connect?
[06:32] <Xenguy> erUSUL: no USB modem
[06:32] <gookie> hi, i need help pls. my serial mouse is not recognized by ubuntu. i tried the configure option of xserver xorg (???) and it doesnt ask me what port im using for my mouse. pls?
[06:32] <Vernon_> gnome:the messiest software in the world :D
[06:32] <gookie> im running a laptop btw.
[06:32] <erUSUL> Xenguy, i do not quite understand. do you want to automatically reconnect when the link disconnect?
[06:33] <Xenguy> erUSUL: yes
[06:33] <poningru> yahalom: did not know that
[06:33] <Kirsch_> hey guys, i'm trying to get dual monitors to work... i can load the fglrx driver correctly, but i'm having issues getting it to stop mirroring the same screen
[06:33] <kemik> Kirsch_:  firegl control ?
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> men who love man! on the next Jenny Jones!
[06:33] <kemik> hehe nice1 Dr_Willis
[06:33] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: haha
[06:33] <poningru> rofl
[06:33] <gookie> is there some way to activate my serial mouse?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> serial mouse.. egads..  ya steal it from a Museum?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:34] <mwe> gookie: you need to set the device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:34] <mwe> gookie: back it up before you mess with it though
[06:34] <Kirsch_> 1sec, had to reboot, X died on me, had to restore xorg.conf
[06:34] <gookie> so w/c line do i have to modify?
[06:34] <poningru> gookie: just restart your comp with it connected it should work
[06:35] <kemik> Kirsch_:  firegl control ?
[06:35] <erUSUL> Xenguy, i do not know if it is possible...
[06:35] <C-O-L-T> Hey people, I want to help in translating ubuntu to hungarian. Is it possible. I am quite good at english
[06:35] <gookie> @ponigru, nope it doesnt :(
[06:35] <poningru> hmm thats weird
[06:35] <yahalom> my firefox doesnt work, i just updated to breezy any ideas?
[06:35] <Manifold> !wm
[06:35] <ubotu> Manifold: No idea
[06:35] <C-O-L-T> Hey people, I want to help in translating ubuntu to hungarian. Is it possible. I am quite good at english
[06:35] <Manifold> !icewm
[06:35] <ubotu> Manifold: What?
[06:35] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, contact the hungarian ubuntu team, for a contact address: wiki.ubuntu.com/LocoTeamList
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> gookie,   -->   Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> 
[06:35] <Xenguy> erUSUL: it is definitely possible; I'm just not sure what the current preferred method is in Ubuntu
[06:35] <mwe> gookie: the one that contains the device Option "Device" under mouse
[06:35] <gookie> ill try to look into xorg.conf and see what line i should mess with :)
[06:35] <gookie> @dr_willis k, ill try that too thx
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  i got no id3ea what to change it TO however. :P
[06:36] <kemik> Kirsch_:  its "fireglcontrol" even
[06:36] <Manifold> So icewm and xfce can just be installed from apt?
[06:36] <erUSUL> C-O-L-T, search for rosseta in the web
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  yes.
[06:36] <kemik> Manifold:  yes
[06:36] <Manifold> Thanks.
[06:36] <mwe> gookie: it probably has to be /dev/ttyS0 IIRC
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  'xubuntu-desktop' for the whole XFCE DE.
[06:36] <monzie> XFCE is good Dr_Willis , thanks
[06:37] <gookie> im actually using 3 mice right now 1 via USB, 1 via serial and 1 from laptop.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> monzie,  it has its good and bad points :P
[06:37] <erUSUL> C-O-L-T, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/rosettarelease
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  you sicko! lol
[06:37] <gookie> LOL
[06:37] <gookie> wait tho
[06:37] <Jowi> gookie: add "mousedev" to /etc/modules if it isn't there + "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and chose the serial mouse there. that's the simple way
[06:37] <monzie> yeah, the file manager's terrible Dr_Willis
[06:37] <gookie> prolly the serial is not loaded coz there's already the one from laptop?
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  you may needt o create a seperate entry for the serial mouse and alter a few other things however.
[06:37] <monzie> both rox filer and xffm
[06:37] <Jowi> gookie: oh, and maybe modprobe mousedev as well
[06:37] <gookie> @Jowi, ill try that now too thx.
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  the laptop pad - may be a 'ps2'  device
[06:38] <mwe> gookie: the serial one will only work if you put in ial is not loaded coz there's already the one from  laptop?
[06:38] <Kirsch_> it keeps mirroring when i set that....
[06:38] <gookie> mwe, no idea lol
[06:38] <Kirsch_> i saw the option, doesn't seem like it does anything
[06:38] <[Neo_xx] > who told that amsn is useless??
[06:38] <mwe> gookie: the serial will only work if you put in /dev/ttyS0 somewhere I meant to say :)
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> I consider IM clients worse then useless. :P dangerous.. :P
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[06:38] <gookie> oh. i see. that's in xorg.conf right?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> well in the hands of my wife they are..
[06:39] <mwe> gookie: right
[06:39] <gookie> k, thx
[06:39] <[Neo_xx] > jajaja Dr_Willis
[06:39] <gookie> umm, how do I backup xorg.conf? just make a copy?
[06:39] <gookie> lol
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> i still want to know when IM clients quit beuing for messages.. now a days it seems tehy are for XXX chat rooms.  :)
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  thats a good habbit to get into.
[06:40] <gookie> k, thx hehe.
[06:40] <mwe> gookie: right. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:40] <pi9inE> i've inserted my DVD and I got this screen: Cannot load DOS! Any key to retry - what's wrong?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> gookie,  cp it to xorg.conf.worked.for.me.at.the.start
[06:40] <gookie> LOL
[06:40] <mwe> Dr_Willis: rofl
[06:40] <Jowi> pi9inE: lol
[06:40] <pi9inE> yeah LOL :D
[06:40] <Vernon_> pi9inE: dvd is not bootable
[06:40] <}MatriX{> people
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> i got so many xorg.conf's for different things ive tested out - its scary
[06:41] <}MatriX{> i got ubuntu 5.10 i386
[06:41] <}MatriX{> how do i install it ???
[06:41] <}MatriX{> i ??
[06:41] <pi9inE> Matrix same problem here since yesterday :)
[06:41] <pi9inE> DVD .iso here
[06:41] <pi9inE> :)))
[06:41] <[Neo_xx] > where can i see how install a webcam??? (creative labs)
[06:41] <}MatriX{> :((
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  check the dvd - what files are on it?
[06:41] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: just a sec. my man
[06:41] <Vernon_> }MatriX{: put it on cdrom and reboot
[06:41] <}MatriX{> how
[06:41] <}MatriX{> to put on cdrom :d
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  my creative webcam just locked up the system. :( sadly.
[06:41] <}MatriX{> i must to burn it
[06:42] <}MatriX{> hMm
[06:42] <pi9inE> Matrix: burn it :)
[06:42] <}MatriX{> damn
[06:42] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : I think it's like plug in; (enjoy|cry)
[06:42] <Dr_Willis>  For burning .iso cd images under windows - i like to use "Burn At once"  google for it.
[06:42] <site> there is some bittorrent client installed in ubuntu i see.....
[06:42] <ubuntu_> hhh
[06:42] <site> but how can i change those options?
[06:42] <pi9inE> dr_Willis: what with DVD .iso then?
[06:42] <site> in the client
[06:42] <}MatriX{> ppl
[06:42] <}MatriX{> i got windows too
[06:42] <}MatriX{> how do i make
[06:42] <}MatriX{> to dont delete my widnows ?
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  sadly B.A.O does not do dvd images.. i had to use NERO for that.
[06:43] <joseph> Hi.
[06:43] <joseph> Does anyone know how to upgrade to Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:43] <mwe> }MatriX{: the installer asks you
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> }MatriX{,  it may be worth wile to go to the ubuntu web site and read the install docs a little.
[06:43] <joseph> I forgot how to. =(
[06:43] <site> anyone knows how to change options in the BitTorrent client from Ubuntu?
[06:44] <[Neo_xx] > so i better discard the idea of my webcam?
[06:44] <Jowi> site: gnome-btdownload does not have many options at all. you get some tabs when you start a download, that's it. there are other clients though but i haven't tried them (azeruous or something)
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Thats the Gnome way! :p
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  ive had such bad luck with webcams under Linux - its scary
[06:45] <mwe> [Neo_xx] : I haven't used one myself on ubuntu. but I hear it's in general very esay to get to work or it wont work at all
[06:45] <gookie> k, back. So i have 3 "input devices" on xorg.conf. 1 keyboard & 2 mice.
[06:45] <polpak> }MatriX{, do you have a CD, or just an ISO?
[06:45] <gookie> 1 mouse is ImPS/2 the other is "auto-dev" synaptic touchpad
[06:45] <site> Jowi, , but you can change the port?
[06:45] <}MatriX{> i got the iso
[06:45] <}MatriX{> now
[06:45] <}MatriX{> trying
[06:45] <}MatriX{> to find an blank
[06:45] <}MatriX{> :)
[06:45] <gookie> Is the ImPS/2 should be the USB mouse connected now?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> !space
[06:46] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Dr_Willis
[06:46] <polpak> }MatriX{, What program are you using to burn it?
[06:46] <J4|\|> is ubuntu really the easyest distro to use ?
[06:46] <Jowi> site: that should be doable.
[06:46] <}MatriX{> nero
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> J4|\|,  I put it in the top 5 :P
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> J4|\|,  the term 'easy'  can be vague  heh.
[06:46] <polpak> J4|\|, It's certainly the easiest to set up and administrate for new users
[06:47] <site> im downlaoding bittorrent now, thats not yet installed in ubuntu, from synaptic
[06:47] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: can I send you via DCC a .jpg what's on DVD cause imageshack.us looks broken
[06:47] <polpak> site, I'm pretty sure ubuntu has a bittorrent client installed by default
[06:47] <site> yes true
[06:47] <site> but its gnome bittorrent right?
[06:47] <site> and not bittorrent?
[06:47] <}MatriX{> tell me
[06:47] <polpak> site, I think so
[06:47] <}MatriX{> if i will reboot
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  not really :P it is just 1 huge iso file? or a lot of little files? is the question
[06:48] <}MatriX{> i got already 2 partitions
[06:48] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: now it's extracted .iso file
[06:48] <}MatriX{> how do i do to keep windows an run ubuntu ??
[06:48] <polpak> ubotu tell }MatriX{ about dualboot
[06:48] <gookie> okay, just want to ask if I can manually add a new Input Device section in xorg.conf for my serial mouse
[06:48] <gookie> like copy the one pointing to /dev/input/mice
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  hmm.. ive seen cases where people mess up and burn the 'whatever.iso' as a file to a disk.. and get a disk with just 'whatever.iso' on it. :P
[06:49] <gookie> and change it to the serial one
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  it dosent sound like you did it that way however.
[06:49] <mwe> gookie: I believe you can
[06:49] <Jowi> site: man gnome-btdownload will give you some port options
[06:49] <SirKillalot> which terminal emulator do you use? --
[06:49] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: no, don't worry :)
[06:49] <everett_> Quick question, how do I find out if a kernel module has been loaded into the kernel?
[06:49] <polpak> everett_, lsmod
[06:49] <SirKillalot> everett_, lsmod
[06:49] <polpak> SirKillalot, beat you ;p
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  heh - odd that the dvd isent booting..
[06:49] <SirKillalot> polpak, ;P
[06:49] <gookie> mwe, thx! so if i messed up. how can I restore the backup?
[06:49] <mwe> gookie: by now, can you use the usb mouse as well as the touch pad?
[06:49] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: what can I do? :-/
[06:49] <everett_> thanks
[06:49] <gookie> mwe, yes.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  you dont have a older dvd drive that needs dvd+r or -r and got the wrong kind of disk  do ya?
[06:50] <SirKillalot> Question to _ALL_ : Which Terminal Emulator Do You Use?
[06:50] <gookie> mwe, just want to add the serial one as the 3rd.
[06:50] <polpak> pi9inE, can you just burn a CD ROM?
[06:50] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: not, all working perfectly fine
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  i fouight a laptop for 5 hrs with THAT issue once. :P
[06:50] <Vernon_> Dr_Willis: ahahah. one of my friend did as you said. when i was joking him for this he said to me "..but i have daemon tools", lol
[06:50] <pi9inE> polpak: I need to re-download a CD .iso again? :-/
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> pi9inE,  i suggest gust getting the cdrom iso image..
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Vernon_,  :P
[06:50] <polpak> pi9inE, I think it'd be the simpilest solution
[06:50] <mwe> gookie: I think you can just add a new InputDevice section. just make sure you choose the right serial port
[06:50] <pi9inE> Dr_Willis: I had yesterday, but wasn't working, that's why I've choosed DVD .iso
[06:50] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> plus if the dvd image is bad....
[06:51] <polpak> pi9inE, I can find you a freeware program that will burn a CD from an iso file
[06:51] <Jowi> pi9inE: check the md5 first of all
[06:51] <hannes_> kkkkkkkkkk
[06:51] <mwe> gookie: like /dev/ttyS0 for the first or /dev/ttyS1 for the second
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  'burn at once' is such a program. :P GPL even
[06:51] <pi9inE> Jowi: tell me how (sorry for stupid questions)
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <gookie> mwe: ill try that now. then ill restart. sooo...what if it's messed up? it will autorecover the backup?
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> wow - is school out allready?
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <Kindred> :|
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
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[06:51] <Ng> !ops
[06:51] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:51] <pi9inE> polpak: from which .iso file? this one?
[06:51] <hannes_> fuck you
[06:52] <Jowi> pi9inE: md5sum --check filename.iso
[06:52] <gnomlee> hey guys and gals, whats the  theme called u use in gnome that has the osx menu toolbar on it ?
[06:52] <polpak> pi9inE, I think it only works for cd rom drives, but I could be wrong
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. the ignore menu item is mussing from xchat... wonder where it went
[06:52] <}MatriX{> !uptime
[06:52] <polpak> Dr_Willis, you can just right click his name from his spamming and select Ignore =)
[06:52] <Jowi> Dr_Willis: Window -> ignore list
[06:53] <mwe> Dr_Willis: however I thik /ignore budhead always works
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> polpak,  its not there...
[06:53] <gnomlee> hey guys and gals, whats the  theme called u use in gnome that has the osx menu toolbar on it ?
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  actually that did not work. :P
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  nto sure why.
[06:53] <pi9inE> I'm getting frustrated
[06:53] <pi9inE> really
[06:53] <mwe> Dr_Willis: really?
[06:53] <polpak> pi9inE, If you get the CD image I can make it work. I can't guarentee the DVD one, as I haven't used it at all
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  yea.. not sure if its an issue with this xchat  for windows client or not.
[06:54] <pi9inE> polpak: I had one yesterday , f0k need to re-download I'm gonna kill myself
[06:54] <}MatriX{> who likes emech
[06:54] <polpak> pi9inE, one sec
[06:55] <mwe> Dr_Willis: sounds weird.
[06:55] <pi9inE> polpak: OK
[06:55] <polpak> pi9inE, ok, try http://www.download.com/Burn4Free-CD-DVD/3000-2646_4-10481244.html?tag=lst-0-10
[06:55] <Jowi> pi9inE: all iso's got a md5 file as well that you download to the same directory as the iso itself. md5sum --check filename.iso to see if the iso is ok. if it is, you don't have to redownload it again
[06:55] <Stork> what sort of games can ubuntu run?
[06:55] <Stork> i presume i need to install windows to be able to game
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  yea - it even showed himn in the ignore list.. but he was still spamming away.. untill the op killed him.
[06:55] <polpak> pi9inE, or actually
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  depends on the game
[06:55] <djm62> Stork: depends on the game...
[06:55] <polpak> pi9inE, try this one instead (seems to have better ratings)
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:55] <polpak> http://www.download.com/Instant-CD-DVD-Burner/3000-2646_4-10475332.html?tag=lst-0-7
[06:56] <Stork> right, so what sort of games like ubuntu?
[06:56] <mwe> Dr_Willis: it sounds broken
[06:56] <Jowi> Stork: some good ones are Quake2, egoboo, neverputt
[06:56] <Storkme> how about quake 4?
[06:56] <polpak> Stork, Quake 4 works
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> http://www.burnatonce.com/index.htm?downloads   - is nice
[06:56] <Kindred> pi9inE:  you definitely made sure of the boot order right?.. seems odd neither a cd or dvd would work thats all :P
[06:56] <Storkme> awesome, how do i get it working?
[06:56] <pi9inE> Kindred: I'm sure for 101%
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> egoboo :P
[06:56] <polpak> Storkme,  http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[06:56] <djm62> Stork: there are a handful (sadly) of commercial games that run natively on linux, loads of free games (some of which are high-quality), and an option to use emulation for other commercial games
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Emulators are fun.
[06:57] <Storkme> o rly?
[06:57] <Kindred> 101% is good
[06:57] <poningru> orly?
[06:57] <djm62> Dr_Willis: is there any reasonable way to play egoboo on a laptop...that games rocks
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> djm62,  im installing it now.. i forget what its like lol
[06:58] <Jowi> djm62: only if you have a mouse :-/
[06:58] <Storkme> could anyone walk me through installing it? i have quake4, which i "used" to use for windows before i realised it was total shit
[06:58] <Storkme> windows i mean, not quake :p
[06:58] <polpak> Storkme, you should read the FAQ
[06:58] <polpak> Storkme, It has installation instructions
[06:58] <Storkme> ok, it's just, i'm a noob, at everything
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Jowi,  lol. I picked up about 6 copies of Q3 in the metal box's for linux - from a bargin bin once..
[06:58] <Storkme> orly?
[06:58] <djm62> Jowi: I get messed up on not having a numeric keypad (I think) for flight/space sims and other 3d stuff
[06:59] <Jowi> Dr_Willis: bargin bins ROCK. first thing i check at any store!
[06:59] <Stork> lol
[06:59] <Kindred> I like cube, no 64 bit though :\
[06:59] <djm62> although quake works nicely
[06:59] <polpak> Storkme, this url is a walkthrough of some guy installing it on Ubuntu Breezy
[06:59] <gookie> what's the protocol for a serial mouse? "serial' too??
[06:59] <polpak> Storkme, http://applications.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/11/07/1547208&tid=8
[06:59] <yaaar> does evolution just really suck or something? it seems stupidly slow and unresponsive...hangs a lot, that sort of thing
[06:59] <Storkme> so what's the difference between 64-bit ubuntu and 32-bit ubuntu?
[06:59] <djm62> Kindred: is cube a proper game these days?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> RTCW:ET works nicely under ubnut also
[06:59] <polpak> Storkme, 32 bit has fewer issues
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> CUBE is getting better...
[06:59] <yaaar> i've always used thunderbird and been happy with it....but saw this was the ubuntu default and figured what the hell....i'd give it a shot
[06:59] <Vernon_> Storkme: cedega
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> but nto a lot of people play it.
[06:59] <yaaar> but that shot may be about over...
[07:00] <djm62> RTCW is so damn good...
[07:00] <polpak> Storkme, and 64 bit is only for 64 bit AMD arch
[07:00] <Storkme> right, so is 64-bit faster or something?
[07:00] <Kindred> djm62, yeah the next version is is development now (sauerbraten).. so cube is no longer being worked on though
[07:00] <djstillman> Hey all, any HP Laserjet owners here?
[07:00] <poningru> Storkme: ofcourse
[07:00] <yaaar> Storkme: it has twice as many bits ;-)
[07:00] <polpak> Storkme, Do you have an AMD 64 bit processor?
[07:00] <Storkme> oh good
[07:00] <Storkme> but of course
[07:00] <polpak> Storkme, ah
[07:00] <Storkme> *showing off* AMD X2 4200+
[07:00] <] BreliC[> Storkme, UT2004 also runs natively on Linux
[07:00] <Storkme> oh sweet!
[07:00] <djm62> and ut2k3
[07:01] <paco> hola
[07:01] <Storkme> fuck microsoft
[07:01] <polpak> Storkme, what video card do you have?
[07:01] <poningru> Storkme: unfortunately 64bit procs arent there yet for everyday computing
[07:01] <Storkme> nvidia 6600GT
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> xpilot - the ultimate game
[07:01] <cello_rasp> hi is there any way of accessing a shared samba place (as in 'places') via other programs? in clearer languages, are these mounted/linked to the filesystem? It seems I cant access smb shares with many programs
[07:01] <foxgamer> Hi all. I was in last night and was being helped with an error 13 problem with grub. I have got a bit further. Wondering if anyone from last night is here that can help again?
[07:01] <djm62> and doom3?
[07:01] <Storkme> sweet
[07:01] <Storkme> linux rox
[07:01] <poningru> Storkme: things like 64bit drivers, plugins etc. are not availble
[07:01] <polpak> cello_rasp, sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k
[07:01] <paco> alguien que hable en espaol? o igual no se puede, necesito informacion
[07:01] <] BreliC[> Dr_Willis, yeah, that is a great game... it's not free, is it?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> cello_rasp,  i tend to use smb4k to mount them where i want.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ] BreliC[,  as far as i know its GPL.
[07:02] <djm62> Storkme: the quid pro quo is letting companies know that you would buy games on linux. invisibility is death ;)
[07:02] <cello_rasp> thanks chaps!!
[07:02] <pi9inE> is that true, that games are runing faster on linux?
[07:02] <] BreliC[> Dr_Willis, nice... it's been years since I"ve played that game
[07:02] <Storkme> hehe
[07:02] <cello_rasp> pi9ine apparently so
[07:02] <polpak> pi9inE, depends on the game, but in general yes
[07:02] <pi9inE> cool
[07:02] <polpak> pi9inE, particularly if your drivers have good support
[07:02] <pi9inE> polpak: i've check that .iso in MagicISO and it says it's bootable
[07:02] <cello_rasp> i just want to be able to rund fruityloops on ubuntu ;___;
[07:02] <yaaar> pi9inE: it depends a lot on a lot of things. but way back in the day i did note that i got better framerates on quake3 (running native) and counterstrike (running in wine) than i did in windows on the same box
[07:03] <poningru> pi9inE: it would be slower if you ati
[07:03] <] BreliC[> paco - join #ubuntu-es for spanish help
[07:03] <poningru> !es
[07:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:03] <pi9inE> i got GeForce 6600GT
[07:03] <Storkme> me too
[07:03] <yaaar> wow, ubotu's multilingual
[07:03] <[Neo_xx] > its usefull install prelink?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  i hear it can be.. but it does not seem as big a buzz as it was a few mo ago.
[07:03] <paco> join #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <yaaar> [Neo_xx] : prelinking speeds up load times pretty dramatically for a lot of things
[07:04] <] BreliC[> yaaar, is OpenGL superior to DirectX?
[07:04] <] BreliC[> yaaar, because i remember way back that windows games were OpenGL, then they switched
[07:04] <ulisse> anybody knows what to do to enable 3D on an ati radeon 7000 (with xorg driver)?
[07:04] <paco> gracias meri,
[07:04] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: don't go dragging me into a religious war ;-)
[07:04] <] BreliC[> paco, you have to do /j #ubuntu-es
[07:04] <i3dmaster> If you use firefox to connect to address like this https://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:22, you will get "This address uses a network port which is normally used for purposes other than Web browsing. Firefox has canceled the request for your protection. My question is how to config firefox not the cancel the request?
[07:04] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : so and so. most boot speed boost you will get from compiling your own kernel and leave out as much crap as you can. my boot time went from 65 to 30 seconds
[07:04] <[Neo_xx] > a ok cause im intalling it
[07:04] <polpak> ulisse, I think you have to get other drivers, but I could be wrong
[07:04] <tcpip> i tried forums but i cant seem to overcome 'data cannot be read from cdrom' error during installation or even through live cd
[07:05] <] BreliC[> yaaar, hehe, sorry :)
[07:05] <ulisse> polpak, the fglrx drivers doesn't work for that board
[07:05] <Storkme> what's the format of saving a game? just out of interest?
[07:05] <polpak> ulisse, I know
[07:05] <Storkme> would ~/q4/ work?
[07:05] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: a lot of developer types prefer DirectX nowadays, mostly because it has a lot bigger API and game-devel framework attached to it. it's not really better in any technical graphics rendering way, just easier to develop for
[07:05] <Jowi> tcpip: try to burn at lower speed (like 4x)
[07:05] <] BreliC[> yaaar, ahh, gotcha
[07:05] <ulisse> polpak, I'm using "radeon" drivers, but I have mesa acceleration...
[07:05] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: the GL guys point to SDL and some other things that patch something similar together....
[07:05] <polpak> Storkme, that would put the game in a subdirectory from your home directory
[07:05] <Storkme> polpak, yeh, is that not a good idea?
[07:06] <amias> lo all
[07:06] <everett_> how do I make it so this custom kernel module I compiled is loaded during bootup?
[07:06] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: i'm not really knowledgable enough about the deeper technical distinctions to be able to say much more than tha
[07:06] <tcpip> Jowi: yup i burned at 4x
[07:06] <] BreliC[> does USB2 function with Ubuntu??  It seems when I transfer tunes to my iRiver, it's pretty slow
[07:06] <Kirsch_> hey guys, i have a dual head card (ATI xx300 PCI-E) trying to get dual monitors to work... i have it mirrored but i can't get it to split off
[07:06] <poningru> ] BreliC[: ofcourse
[07:06] <yaaar> everett_: lsmod | grep 'modulename'
[07:06] <amias> is there a bugzilla just for dapper bugs ?
[07:06] <] BreliC[> poningru, i thought so, just can't figure out why it won't work with me...
[07:06] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: yes, usb2 hispeed should work
[07:06] <trappist> Kirsch_: if you're using the fglrx drivers run fglrxconfig.  it's got a great wizard for that.
[07:06] <everett_> thanks.
[07:07] <polpak> Storkme, it's fine
[07:07] <] BreliC[> yaaar, so an 80MB CD shouldn't take about 4-5 minutes to transfer, right?
[07:07] <amias> Kirsch_, do you have two device sections in your xorg.conf ?
[07:07] <pi9inE> polpak: I'm burning with that Instant
[07:07] <pi9inE> lemme see
[07:07] <polpak> Storkme, just means that only you can play the game on your computer, but that's probably what you want anyway
[07:07] <pi9inE> what will happen
[07:07] <polpak> pi9inE, ok
[07:07] <Jowi> tcpip: have you tried on another type of disk?
[07:07] <polpak> pi9inE, did you check the md5sum yet?
[07:07] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: are you sure you're plugged into a 2.0 port? some boxes have some of each
[07:07] <Fangz> Hey, does breezy have the kernel compiled with REG_PARM?
[07:08] <pi9inE> polpak: nope, I don't know how to do it (I feel so retarded)
[07:08] <tcpip> Jowi: no, i ll give it a try
[07:08] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: also, what speed is the cdrom?
[07:08] <] BreliC[> yaaar, pretty sure i am.  i wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that my mobo is nForce4.  do i need drivers for it?
[07:08] <Fangz> Or is there a way to check?
[07:08] <amias> Fangz,  have a loot at the corresponding config.2.6.xxx file in /boot
[07:08] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: come to think of it, i don't think cd-roms are fast enough to saturate even a usb 1.1 bus, are they?
[07:08] <Storkme> anyone know what specs are required for running the Q4 server?
[07:08] <Rapp> does anyone know how many packages [k] ubuntu contains? assuming latest release?
[07:08] <flogiston> Im trying to unzip a zip file. im using gunzip. Shouldn't gunzip -d file.zip work?
[07:08] <] BreliC[> yaaar, DVD burner... 16x write, and accesses CD at 52x I think
[07:08] <polpak> pi9inE, if you are already burning it's not a big deal
[07:09] <amias> flogiston, i use unzip for that , dunno if gunzip would work .
[07:09] <polpak> flogiston, depends on how it's zipped. You might have to just use unzip not gunzip
[07:09] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: what's the data transfer rate at 52x?
[07:09] <pi9inE> polpak: I feel always optimist when reading your and others answers at my stupid questions, god bless you all for patience :)))
[07:09] <flogiston> ill try unzip then
[07:09] <polpak> pi9inE, =)
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> flogiston,  use 'unzip' :P
[07:09] <djstillman> yaaar - 7800KB/sec
[07:09] <] BreliC[> yaaar, good question.  i'm at university/work right now.  i'll have to check when i'm home
[07:10] <] BreliC[> yaaar, gotta love FreeNX :)  working on my box at home from work
[07:10] <yaaar> ok, well, 7.8MB/s is certainly fast enough for a 12mbps bus to be a bottleneck
[07:10] <amias> yaaar, don't forget the extra protocol overhead. it eats up more bandwidth that you think
[07:11] <yaaar> yeah
[07:11] <ahz> Is there an easy way to clone a Ubuntu installation where the other computer may have a different size HDD?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> ahz,  'mondo/mindi' can do that.. backups to dvd/nfs/samba - and can restore to different sized hds
[07:11] <pi9inE> am I have to do some "additional tweaks" on ubuntu to play mp3 on it?
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> ahz,  may be some other tools that can do it also.
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[07:12] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:12] <Rapp> is breezy already compiled with gcc 4.0?
[07:12] <everett_> It didn't work, the kernel didn't load. :/
[07:12] <everett_> the kernel module.
[07:12] <everett_> I wanted to load at boot. :/
[07:12] <EricCartman> hey
[07:12] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: can you pastebin the output of 'lspci' and 'lsmod' ?
[07:12] <EricCartman> does installer (for ppc) support resizing a HFS parititon ?
[07:12] <amias> everett_,  is it listed in /etc/modules
[07:12] <tcpip> Jowi: which burning s/w would you suggest for the cd?
[07:12] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: also, have you installed the linux-restricted-modules yet?
[07:12] <everett_> located at /usr/src/SRanger/modules-2.6.x/usb-sranger.ko
[07:13] <everett_> No amias.
[07:13] <Fangz> Rapp: Oh, I was going to ask that too. I'm trying to get OSS to work
[07:13] <yaaar> tcpip: gnome-baker seems to be an all-around good choice. but then, what kind of cd are you wanting to make?
[07:13] <djstillman> Rapp - When I tried to install the NVidia drivers from their site, their app said breezy was compiled with an earlier gcc version...
[07:13] <amias> everett_, the module itself will probably need to be in /lib/modules somewhere as well
[07:14] <everett_> Should I add usb-sranger.ko to the file? Do I need to copy and move the kernel module to where /etc/modules can find it once its listed.
[07:14] <everett_> thanks.
[07:14] <yaaar> djstillman: why didn't you just install the linux-restricted-modules package from synaptic? it's got the nvidia drivers
[07:14] <tcpip> yaaar: for win.. havent installed ubuntu yet.. got stuck with a seemingly bad install/live ubuntu cd
[07:14] <Rapp> DjKritical, hmm... sure? gcc-4.0 is at least available as a package in breezy...
[07:14] <yaaar> tcpip: oh
[07:14] <Rapp> argh
[07:14] <Rapp> i meant djstillman
[07:14] <amias> everett_, there should be a dir for each kernel version but i don't know where it should be beyond that
[07:14] <djstillman> yaaar - I did install those drivers, but I wanted newer...
[07:14] <Storkme> what does it mean in nautilous when a file has a yellow lock over it?
[07:15] <yaaar> tcpip: it's been a long, long time since i've burned anything w/ winders
[07:15] <yaaar> djstillman: ah, i see.
[07:15] <polpak> Storkme, means it's read only
[07:15] <] BreliC[> yaaar, http://pastebin.com/490515 for the lspci
[07:15] <yaaar> thx
[07:15] <amias> everett_, the build scripts for your module should have and a make install option
[07:15] <polpak> Storkme, did you install the program as root? or as your user?
[07:15] <HymnToLife> anyone has any idea about why the video is always too fast when I rip a dvd ?
[07:15] <ahz> Do the 5.10 repositories have OpenOffice.org 2.0.0/2.0.1, or am I doing it wrong?  I see only 1.9.x.
[07:15] <djstillman> Rapp - I know 4.0 is available as a module, but the nvidia installer said it was installed with an earlier version (I think 3.6...)
[07:15] <Rapp> hmm
[07:15] <foxgamer> Anyone able to help with an error 13 in grub?
[07:15] <Rapp> 3.4, if at all
[07:16] <] BreliC[> yaaar, http://pastebin.com/490519 for lsmod
[07:16] <Storkme> polpak, i'm still copying them from cd to ~/q4/
[07:16] <Storkme> polpak, how can i log in as root user?
[07:16] <Rapp> djstillman, maybe the nvidia driver was compiled with 3.3 or something?
[07:16] <Storkme> is that possible?
[07:16] <polpak> Storkme, the best you can do is sudo -i
[07:16] <Storkme> ok
[07:16] <amias> woo dapper updates are coming thick and fast now
[07:16] <polpak> Storkme, but it's not advised to run programs as root
[07:16] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: well, even before i look at that lsmod, i can say with some certainty that you're running without usb-2.0 capability
[07:17] <everett_> Hrm, where in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/ should I move this custom module to? :/
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, i did install the restricted modules
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, hmm, could it be the lack of nForce4 drivers?
[07:17] <djstillman> Nah, the driver installer said it wanted to compile itself with the same version of gcc as it saw breezy compiled with, and in spite of having both 3.4 and 4.0 installed, it said it would not install...
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, i know there are some available at the nVidia site but wasn't sure what kind of problems I'd run itno
[07:17] <] BreliC[> itno=into
[07:17] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: you see how the usb controller lines say "unknown device" ....the autodetect doesn't recognize what usb chipset it is, so presumably it's loading only the most generic/lowest common denominator drivers
[07:17] <yaaar> k
[07:17] <amias> everett_, where did you get this module from ?
[07:17] <] BreliC[> yaaar, ahh
[07:17] <yaaar> you say it's an nforce4 board
[07:18] <everett_> Custom software to interface with an electron microscope. :)
[07:18] <amias> everett_, you wrote it ?
[07:18] <Storkme> ORLY?
[07:18] <] BreliC[> yaaar, yes
[07:19] <] BreliC[> yaaar, MSI amd64 nforce4
[07:19] <everett_> whoa, it's already in /lib/modules/2.6.12/extra/usb-sranger.ko, maybe manually insmod'ing it did that. ;)
[07:20] <everett_> brb lets see if it works. ;)
[07:20] <site>  i need SP2 FASST
[07:20] <site> but its slow from M$ site :(
[07:20] <Rapp> djstillman, and that sounds like the nvidia driver was compiled with 3.3... 3.4 is already incompatible to 3.3
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> site,  try download.com or somewhere.
[07:20] <cello_rasp> is there any way to remove entire dependency families when no other packages but the one at the top depends upon them?
[07:21] <cello_rasp> shouldnt have told me to install smb4k guys :|
[07:21] <polpak> djstillman, I must have missed it, is there a reason your not using the repo packages for your nvidia drivers?
[07:21] [blue-frog(n=james@81.56.254.229)]  !
[07:21] [blue-frog(n=james@81.56.254.229)]  !help
[07:21] <polpak> cello_rasp, trying to avoid KDE libs?
[07:21] <djstillman> Rapp - no idea.  have moved on for now, and will play with that later.  Right now I am trying to get my HP Laserjet 5si set up...
[07:21] [blue-frog(n=james@81.56.254.229)]  log
[07:21] <djstillman> polpak - yes, wanted newest drivers...
[07:21] <HappyFool> cello_rasp: check out deborphan
[07:21] <cello_rasp> polpak: running gnome and no kde, see it as wasteful
[07:21] <tcpip> i just read somewhere that DMA might not be enabled during installation.. anyone help me with that?
[07:22] <polpak> cello_rasp, So do I, but since I haven't finished writing a gtk version of smb4k yet
[07:22] <polpak> cello_rasp, ;p
[07:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: do you know how to start a gnome-terminal?
[07:22] <cello_rasp> polpak: i like the way nautilus does it, it has room for growth there
[07:23] <tcpip> thats before or after one has installed ubuntu?
[07:23] <polpak> cello_rasp, I don't. Nautellus doesn't actually mount it to the FS
[07:23] <HappyFool> tcpip: after
[07:23] <polpak> cello_rasp, so no command line tools can access the files
[07:23] <tcpip> well i am stuck with the installation itself
[07:23] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: that's odd
[07:23] <polpak> cello_rasp, and many other programs cannot see the files either
[07:24] <cello_rasp> polpak: that is just what is needed. godspeed brother
[07:24] <yaaar> ] BreliC[: you have the correct modules loaded....ehci is the usb 2.0 module
[07:24] <HappyFool> tcpip: ah. where are you stuck? what have you done so far?
[07:24] <stark-johan> maybe a silly question but how do I search for files? niether "whereis" nor "find -depth" gives hits for files I know exist.
[07:24] <CardinalFang> Hi.  Does BSD process accounting work for anyone else in Breezy?
[07:24] <amias> HappyFool,  Applications -> System -> Terminal
[07:24] <yaaar> stark-johan: locate 'filename'
[07:24] <CardinalFang> stark-johan: What do you use "-depth" for?
[07:24] <yaaar> stark-johan: 'find
[07:24] <yaaar> arg
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, there's a way you can do it command line
[07:25] <cello_rasp> polpak: with smbfs?
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, w/o smb4k
[07:25] <tcpip> HappyFool: i get an error 'data canot be read from CDRom'
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, yeah
[07:25] <stark-johan> cardinal fang > isn't that the option to search subdirectories aswell?
[07:25] <CardinalFang> stark-johan: No.
[07:25] <yaaar> stark-johan: find is far more complex than that......it's a whole architecture for recursively matching files/directories against a large number of variables
[07:25] <cello_rasp> polpak: i assume those remain mounted from session to session?
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, you just need to chmod ug+s /usr/bin/smbmnt /usr/bin/smbumount
[07:25] <amias> stark-johan,  find / -iname 'what you want to find'
[07:25] <polpak> cello_rasp, yes they do
[07:26] <stark-johan> ok. locate did the trick
[07:26] <polpak> cello_rasp, whereas smb4k will automatically umount them when you log out
[07:26] <HappyFool> tcpip: did you burn this CD yourself?
[07:26] <yaaar> stark-johan: if you just want to find a file named something, you want "locate" instead. note, however that locate depends on a database created by "updatedb" ...so if the file was added after the last updatedb run it won't show up
[07:26] <CardinalFang> stark-johan: 'locate' is a cached 'find' (plus a little permission magick), fwiw.
[07:26] <TCTCH> hey, I search a nice and easy mp3 tag and nameing programm (who is easy to install or in the reposity) any one got an idee?
[07:26] <yaaar> stark-johan: luckily, ubuntu automatically runs that periodically for you
[07:26] <aroben> Anyone having trouble with Dapper after an update today?
[07:26] <cello_rasp> polpak: i should clarify: does the smbfs daemon startup and mount on boot?
[07:26] <polpak> cello_rasp, did you use deborphan to get rid of the kde libs?
[07:26] <cello_rasp> almost
[07:26] <polpak> cello_rasp, oh. No.
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, there is no smbfs daemon
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, just a kernel module
[07:27] <yaaar> CardinalFang: that is absolutely false
[07:27] <tcpip> HappyFool: yup now iam trying to burn with deepburner
[07:27] <gorski> help for installing a printer, please!
[07:27] <cello_rasp> well there should be >:)!
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, if you want your shares to mount on boot
[07:27] <polpak> cello_rasp, you can put them in fstab
[07:27] <murr-> locate is even better with -i
[07:27] <CardinalFang> yaaar: Oh?  Absolutely?  Wow.
[07:27] <Kindred> TCTCH: easytag?
[07:27] <stark-johan> yaaar > but I can run locate -update (or something) manually if I need to find a "fresh" file?
[07:27] <amias> aroben, fixed stuff for me , gdm was randomly failing and gnome-sessions where failing too
[07:27] <TCTCH> kindred: thx, I check that out
[07:27] <yaaar> CardinalFang: go read the find man page and tell me locate bears even a half resemblance
[07:28] <HappyFool> tcpip: it's probably worth checking the CD contents, using whatever OS you are running at the moment. I doubt enabling DMA will allow data to be read
[07:28] <aroben> amias, I seem to no longer have /dev/input/*
[07:28] <yaaar> CardinalFang: find is *not* just a search-for-files interface. it is a hierarchical file walker that can do truly amazing things
[07:28] <pi9inE> polpak: burned, let me see...
[07:28] <everett_> Woohooo. Okay, module loaded, my next problem: My mic recording level is EXTREMELY low. Any ideas?
[07:29] <polpak> everett_, turn up the volumn?
[07:29] <yaaar> stark-johan: just run "updatedb"
[07:29] <gorski> does anybody know how to install an Canon PIXMA iP1000 printer?
[07:29] <amias> aroben, there is a new udev waiting , you could force it to install with apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <polpak> everett_, use alsamixer
[07:29] <yaaar> stark-johan: that will create the database....once that gets done do "locate <file>"
[07:29] <polpak> everett_, or the gnome volumn manager
[07:29] <pi9inE> polpak: WORKING !!!!!
[07:29] <pi9inE> polpak: I LOVE YOU !!!!!!!!
[07:29] <polpak> pi9inE, Congratulations
[07:29] <tcpip> HappyFool: the inbuilt integrity checker faced the same problem.. though the md5 for the iso itself is correct.. am currently under winxp pro sp2
[07:29] <CardinalFang> yaaar: I didn't say find is locate, I said locate is a cached find -name $expr .
[07:29] <aroben> amias: That may have caused the problem in the first place
[07:29] <pi9inE> ok, lemme check, 1st time installing Linux :) woohoo
[07:29] <pi9inE> :D
[07:29] <everett_> in alsamixer it says Item: Mic [off]  even though I record sound, barely, should I turn this on?
[07:29] <[Neo_xx] > hey after i write this "sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink" something has to happen?
[07:30] <cello_rasp> polpak: re: deborphan: this is weird. apt-get install smb4k also installed certain kdelibs. smbfs does not require them. implying the only dependency was with smb4k. i uninstalled smb4k, yet deborphan doesnt pick them up. 0_o
[07:30] <yaaar> CardinalFang: 1)that's not what you said. 2)it's not
[07:30] <CardinalFang> yaaar: Long ago, it was that literally, iirc.
[07:30] <amias> aroben, provided you can still run updates it should go away shortly
[07:30] <HappyFool> tcpip: when you say md5 for the iso, you mean the .iso file before you burned it?
[07:30] <concept10> !info ruby
[07:30] <aroben> amias: That's my hope. Just wanted to see if anyone had had a similar problem and found a quick fix
[07:30] <amias> aroben, which nodes are missing ? you can create them easily
[07:30] <everett_> err, how do I go from [Playback]  to Capture in alsamixer?
[07:30] <tcpip> HappyFool: yes before
[07:31] <HappyFool> tcpip: for what it's worth, there's an md5sum.txt file in the root directory of the CD that contains md5sums for the cd contents -- i'd use that (on the burnt CD) to check
[07:31] <amias> aroben, i haven't rebooted since i upgraded yet , i may have that to come :(
[07:31] <[Neo_xx] > hey after i write this "sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink" something has to happen?
[07:31] <aroben> amias: /dev/input/*, /dev/agpgart, and /dev/null seems to have wrong permissions (root:root 660)
[07:31] <polpak> cello_rasp, well I can give you the dependancies for smb4k and you can just remove them
[07:31] <tcpip> HappyFool: one can dl those individual files if they are wrong?
[07:31] <MaxEmtSti> need some help, i just configured Masqurading on my Ubuntu that has two network cards,one for internet and one for lan.Now the other computer[XP]  can see the ubuntu, but it cannot get to internet
[07:31] <amias> aroben, mine are like that and its not a problem
[07:32] <HappyFool> tcpip: well, they shouldn't be wrong -- if they are, the CD was incorrectly burnt
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  set the gateway ip for the xp box to be the isp's gateway ip - perhaps.
[07:32] <CardinalFang> Does BSD process accounting work for anyone else in Breezy?   $ sudo apt-get install acct; echo one; lastcomm |tail
[07:32] <aroben> amias: With /dev/null having those permissions I can't redirect to it (i.e   echo foo > /dev/null)
[07:32] <cello_rasp> polpak can you? thanks
[07:32] <MaxEmtSti> when i ping google from the xp it resolves the addres of google but no return
[07:32] <HappyFool> tcpip: the idea is to decide if the CD is bad, or if ubuntu can't use your cd-rom for some reason
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  OR set the dns server ips..  try pinging a site by ip, and by name..
[07:33] <rance> would someone be willing to give me a had with a scanner permissions problem, Ive got a new 5.10 install updated with the latest fixes last nite, my user is member of the scanners group but can not do a "scanimage -L" and get a scanner, but "sudo scanimage -L" can get a scanner
[07:33] <amias> aroben, my /dev/null is everything but executable
[07:33] <aroben> amias: But who owns it?
[07:33] <amias> aroben, root
[07:33] <polpak> cello_rasp, the KDE ones are libart and libqt3-mt and kdelibs4c2
[07:33] <[Neo_xx] > helo i was installing prelink and im stock in this part i write sudo /etc/cron.daily/prelink in the terminal but after that nothign happen
[07:34] <amias> rance, have you logged out and in again since adding your user to the scanners group ?
[07:34] <tcpip> HappyFool: ok i ll check the md5 for now and let you knw
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  im guessing it should  start scanning/working ont he ssytem prelinking everything
[07:34] <MaxEmtSti> Dr_Willis, can u explain a litlle more
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  try 'ping 72.14.203.99' and 'ping www.google.com' on the box thats not working
[07:35] <rance> probably not, just got home from the office for lunch, so not sure
[07:35] <rance> ill try it real quick
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  if you can ping by # but not name. = dns issue. if neither work = gateway issue.
[07:35] <yaaar> anybody around here want to help with a truly crazy cd/dvd autoload problem?
[07:35] <amias> yaaar, just ask
[07:35] <MaxEmtSti> Dr_Willis, gateway issue, how to fix it
[07:35] <[Neo_xx] > so i left that way until appears the $ again Dr_Willis ?
[07:36] <yaaar> video dvds either autoload correctly or not dependant on what the last disc in the drive was
[07:36] <syl> hello does hibernate have work with kubuntu 5.10 out of box ?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  the GW for the xp box  perhaps should be eithe the ip of the Linux box.. OR the ip of the isp's gw..  not suire in your case which ya need
[07:36] <amias> syl, depends on the hardware
[07:36] <yaaar> if a (full) data cd was just in the drive, they come up fine....totem loads and plays the movie
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> [Neo_xx] ,  it may take some time for it to finish
[07:37] <syl> amias, asus p4p800
[07:37] <MaxEmtSti> Dr_Willis,  tell me what information to send u so u can see
[07:37] <str> hi guys, I couldn't find a way to display all contacts from my LDAP server without the need to enter some search parameters... is there a way to do so?
[07:37] <amias> syl, dunno , i haven't got one . the options are in /etc/default/acpi-support
[07:37] <str> ooops I meant in evolution
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> MaxEmtSti,  I just use dhcp for my system,  you may want to set up a dhcp server on the linux box. it should then tell the xp box the right info
[07:37] <yaaar> if a blank cd was in the drive last, they get autoloaded like they were blank....the icon is labelled "dvd-rom" instead of the volume label, instead of totem i get the cd burning dialogue, the drive isn't mounted, and starting totem manually gives me an error:
[07:38] <yaaar> "could not find mountpoint for /dev/hdc in /etc/fstab"
[07:38] <yaaar> but that fstab line is fine
[07:38] <syl> amias, hibernate says "kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in"
[07:38] <pi9inE> ok I'm installing it, what I need first ext2 or ext3? (sorry if I'm asking stupid)
[07:38] <yaaar> also, mounting it manually from the command line immediately launches totem and produces that same error
[07:38] <Manifold> Is E16 considered stable?
[07:38] <amias> syl, did you apt-get install hibernate ?
[07:38] <polpak> pi9inE, how are you wanting to set up the system ?
[07:38] <syl> amias, should i recompile kernel?
[07:38] <yaaar> opening the mountpoint in nautilus just shows it as an empty dir
[07:39] <polpak> pi9inE, are you dual booting with windows?
[07:39] <pi9inE> polpak: I wanna have dual boot
[07:39] <site> does anybody know  a good p2pprogram like limewire for ubuntu?
[07:39] <syl> amias, it's marked as installed in adept
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> site,  theres Limewire :P
[07:39] <demona> Anyone else having problems with smbiod going nuts and sucking up outrageous amounts of CPU?
[07:39] <polpak> pi9inE, have you looked at the dual boot howto?
[07:39] <amias> syl, are you using an ubuntu kernel ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> site,  its covered in the p2p ubuntu wiki page.
[07:39] <yaaar> i get the same screwy behavior when i boot with a dvd in the drive, or if a dvd is the first thing i'm putting in the drive after it boots
[07:39] <pi9inE> polpak: nope
[07:39] <site> Dr_Willis,  can i just install it from their site?
[07:39] <LiGhTeNiN> is the kubuntu 6.04 stable enough? or should I get breezy
[07:39] <TCTCH> Kindred: that's a really nice mp3 tag tool...
[07:39] <pi9inE> polpak: that's why I'm asking
[07:39] <polpak> ubotu tell pi9inE about dualboot
[07:39] <site> can u give me the link Dr_Willis ?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> site,  go read the wiki.  - check the topic
[07:39] <yaaar> but it it's misbehaving, i can just pop the dvd out, put in a data cd (which loads fine) and then put the dvd back in and it works fine.
[07:40] <yaaar> (until i put another blank disc in and then try the dvd again)
[07:40] <syl> #amias, donno, 2.6.12-9-686 kernel
[07:40] <Kindred> TCTCH, cool - I haven't got around to playing with it yet :)
[07:41] <amias> syl, if you haven't changed the kernel it should work
[07:41] <site> Dr_Willis,  i cant find it
[07:41] <Manifold> Is E16 considered stable?
[07:41] <site> im on ubuntu wiki site and i cant find any limewire topics with search
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> wiki.ubuntu.com - enter limewire in the search  field :P
[07:41] <TCTCH> Kindred: its really fast and easy...very nice
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> or 'p2p'
[07:41] <cowboy__> salut
[07:41] <syl> #amias, i haven't...
[07:42] <pi9inE> polpak: should I set all of 29.5 Gb?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> you may want to check the  search by keyword, not topic
[07:42] <cowboy__> hello
[07:42] <amias> syl, try apt-cache search kernel and choose the one for your architcture
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[07:42] <ubotu> limewire is probably first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[07:42] <polpak> pi9inE, you already have windows installed yet?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Or just ask the bot :P
[07:42] <pi9inE> polpak: ya
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  i dont consider it very stable :P
[07:42] <polpak> pi9inE, on the same driver you're installing linux?
[07:42] <syl> #amias, i'll try
[07:42] <pi9inE> polpak: i'm installing ubuntu at 2nd partition
[07:42] <Manifold> Hum.
[07:42] <site> DAmn limewire NOT on the list :(
[07:42] <[Neo_xx] > someone have installed the prelink?
[07:42] <yaaar> site: click the little lifesaver thing at the top of your screen
[07:42] <syl> #amias thnx
[07:42] <Manifold> What about Fluxbox, Dr_Willis?
[07:42] <yaaar> site: or type 'yelp' at the command line
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, ok, and the second partition is 29.5 Gb?
[07:43] <yaaar> site: then go to 'getting started guide'
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: ya
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  comparing E to Fluxbox is like caparing a Knife to a  NUKE. :P
[07:43] <site> ok
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, I'd suggest making 3 new partitions out of that 1 big partition
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Manifold,  flux is very useable and stable.
[07:43] <yaaar> site: limewire instructions are in there....as well as great instructions for a whole bunch of things that most of us want
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: yes sir
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, how much RAM do you have?
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: 512
[07:43] <Manifold> Well, they are WMs, correct?
[07:43] <Manifold> :P
[07:43] <polpak> pi9inE, Ok, so you need to make one 5Gb partition
[07:43] <pi9inE> polpak: so you suggest 10, 10 and 9,5 ?
[07:43] <cello_rasp> thanks all! things work great now
[07:44] <pi9inE> polpak: ok one 5
[07:44] <yaaar> site: like getting all the codecs, and nvidia drivers, etc
[07:44] <polpak> pi9inE, format it ext3 and mount it to /
[07:44] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:44] <site> thanx yaaar  i see :)
[07:44] <yaaar> have fun
[07:44] <polpak> pi9inE, make one 1 Gb Partition and format it as linux swap
[07:44] <site> will do :)
[07:44] <pi9inE> polpak: I set it tu 5Gb and it said small quantity
[07:45] <pi9inE> *to
[07:45] <polpak> pi9inE, I'm not sure you did it right then
[07:46] <yaaar> man, this really sucks. i added my second email account to evolution, and it won't finish refreshing the folders....and meanwhile, it won't switch to any other folders, including those on different accounts
[07:46] <pi9inE> polpak: I haven't created any now
[07:46] <Manifold> I'm gonna try Fluxbox.
[07:46] <polpak> pi9inE, did you delete the 29.5 gig partition?
[07:46] <yaaar> so i don't have any access to any of my email accounts
[07:46] <pi9inE> polpak: nope
[07:46] <yaaar> i've closed/reopened it and it just sits there forever
[07:46] <polpak> pi9inE, Ok, delete the 1 big partition you were going to install linux on
[07:46] <pi9inE> polpak: okj
[07:47] <pi9inE> polpak: done
[07:47] <polpak> pi9inE, the other partition (the one with windows on it) that was a primary partition?
[07:47] <pi9inE> polpak: yes
[07:47] <Manifold> Question. What's the difference between what GNOME is, and what Metacity is?
[07:47] <polpak> pi9inE, so now there is just your windows partition and a bunch of free space
[07:47] <pi9inE> polpak: exactly
[07:47] <polpak> Manifold, GNOME is a desktop enviornment, Metacity is a windows manager
[07:48] <polpak> pi9inE, Ok, create 1 primary partition
[07:48] <polpak> pi9inE, that's 5 gigs
[07:48] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:48] <polpak> pi9inE, make it ext3 and set the mount point to /
[07:48] <ahz> I get apt-get update errors with Ubuntu 5.10.  Details: http://pastebin.com/490559
[07:48] <pi9inE> polpak: it is by default
[07:49] <polpak> pi9inE, did it work that time?
[07:49] <pi9inE> polpak: yes
[07:49] <polpak> pi9inE, ok
[07:49] <pi9inE> polpak: now is there ext3 connection point /
[07:49] <polpak> pi9inE, now create a 1 gig partition and set it to swap
[07:49] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:49] <cdsmith> ok i got a question.. i have a system thats already up and running.. i shut it down and droped a scsi card in it..and attached an hard drive.. what do i need to do to get the box to see it and all that
[07:49] <pi9inE> polpak: so that's 2nd option? primary or logical
[07:50] <polpak> pi9inE, you can make it logical
[07:50] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:50] <polpak> pi9inE, now create another partition with all the remaining space
[07:50] <Manifold> Aha.
[07:50] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:50] <polpak> pi9inE, ext3, logical, and mount it to /home
[07:50] <Manifold> So a DE is a collection of tools.
[07:50] <Manifold> And a WM is a singular thing.
[07:50] <Kanye> what location are themes saved to?
[07:50] <cdsmith> I figured the system would pick it up and i'd just need to fdisk it..but nope doesnt see the hard drive
[07:51] <Kanye> im using ubuntu
[07:51] <pi9inE> polpak: ok
[07:51] <yaaar> this is fucking bullshit
[07:51] <pi9inE> polpak: aha, I made a wrong thing... I have to write sizes like 10000 for 10 Gb for example
[07:51] <djstillman> Speaking of evolution, any ideas of how to import emails from a .pst windows file??
[07:51] <pi9inE> polpak: i'm stupid :)
[07:52] <polpak> pi9inE, ah, no worries
[07:52] <cdsmith> cany anyone help me?
[07:52] <amias> night all
[07:52] <site> how do i install some python file?
[07:52] <site> .py
[07:52] <site> i downlaode d  bittornado
[07:52] <site> and i dont kno w how to install it
[07:52] <psusi> djstillman: get exhell to export them as proper mbox email
[07:52] <Manifold> How do I switch window managers?
[07:52] <djstillman> site - Use the one in the universe
[07:52] <site> how
[07:52] <LabThug> Anyone in here use Opera as their web browser?
[07:52] <yaaar> djstillman: if it was me doing it, i'd start by installing thunderbird on the winders box, using its import tool, then manually move the resultant mbox files over to linux, then push them into evolution
[07:53] <site> djstillman, how do u mean ?
[07:53] <HappyFool> site: using synaptic
[07:53] <psusi> djstillman: I think you can do that by selecting all the messages and save as?  but am not sure... never really used outlook
[07:53] <site> bittornado isnt therey Fool
[07:53] <site> HappyFool,  *
[07:53] <site> ;p
[07:53] <yaaar> does anybody know how i can make evolution respond to something? it seems frozen up trying to refresh folders on a new account i created, and now it won't do anything at all
[07:53] <HappyFool> site: then you need to enable the 'universe' repository
[07:53] <psusi> site: it is in the universe
[07:53] <yaaar> i've killed it and started it again, but it comes back to the same place immediately
[07:54] <site> Ok
[07:54] <site> how do i do that again?
[07:54] <pi9inE> polpak: so again: 1. part  5GB ext3 / - 2. part 1GB swap - 3. part ext3 /home all left space ?
[07:54] <HappyFool> !tell site about repos
[07:54] <mwe> yaaar: it probably is frozen then. kill it
[07:54] <yaaar> site: it's in that getting started guide
[07:54] <yaaar> mwe; uh....did you read where i said i'd killed it?
[07:54] <Fangz> Grr.. I'm having really weird problems with Jagged Alliance 2's sound. Whenever I do something that makes sound happen, no sound happens for about 5 minutes. Then it happens and loops indefinitely
[07:54] <demona> Nobody else having problems with Samba?
[07:55] <johns^> no :)
[07:55] <LiGhTeNiN> how do I remount a hdd with writing rights?
[07:55] <Fangz> Anyone seen/heard anything like that?
[07:55] <johns^> mount -o remount,rw /dev/hdX
[07:55] <yaaar> demona: my current problems with samba are probably actually kerberos problems...
[07:55] <psusi> LiGhTeNiN: don't specify ro as a mount option in /etc/fstab
[07:55] <polpak> pi9inE, yep sounds right
[07:55] <yaaar> LiGhTeNiN: what type of drive is it?
[07:55] <pi9inE> polpak: ok, going to confirm it
[07:55] <mwe> yaaar: I don't use evolution. does it have a settings dir like ~/.evolution maybe?
[07:56] <LiGhTeNiN> yaaar: ntfs filesys partition actually
[07:56] <marcos> ola
[07:56] <Fangz> Not neccessary the same program... just the same sort of glirch
[07:56] <yaaar> LiGhTeNiN: you're sol
[07:56] <Fangz> *glitch
[07:56] <polpak> LiGhTeNiN, can't write to ntfs
[07:56] <mwe> yaaar: if it does move it out of the way and see if it will start
[07:56] <yaaar> LiGhTeNiN: there is no write support for ntfs
[07:56] <i3dmaster> exit
[07:56] <LiGhTeNiN> oh no :I
[07:56] <site> i dont see universe in the synaptic
[07:56] <yaaar> mwe; i can already tell that my short experience with evolution is nearly over
[07:56] <MaxEmtSti> can somebody tell me what was the address on internet where i can paste some large text
[07:57] <polpak> ubotu, tell MaxEmtSti about pastebin
[07:57] <mwe> yaaar: yeah
[07:57] <pi9inE> polpak: it says: Installing main system (when I translate it) so looks fine? :))
[07:57] <psusi> site: click the box to "show disabled repositories" or whatever it was
[07:57] <yaaar> mwe; this was the first time i've tried using it.......i'm pretty much convinced now that it's a steaming pile of shit
[07:57] <polpak> pi9inE, seems good
[07:57] <mwe> yaaar: I use thunderbird
[07:57] <pi9inE> polpak: thanks a lot :)
[07:57] <yaaar> me too usually
[07:57] <Storkme> wierd, how do i run quake4 on ubuntu? i just installed it
[07:57] <site> yea i did did that [susi
[07:57] <site> psusi
[07:57] <psusi> site: then it should show in the list of repositores, just without a check... check it
[07:57] <mwe> yaaar: I think tbird is awesome
[07:57] <yaaar> yeah
[07:58] <site> Yes but i dont see universe in there psusu
[07:58] <site> psusi,
[07:58] <oupsla> salut
[07:58] <Kanye> can somebody please guide me or show a tutorial on how to open up universe
[07:58] <marcos> alguem fala portugues...
[07:58] <yaaar> really the only reasons i tried evolution out this time were 1)it was the default, and i hadn't ever used it....trying new things, and 2)on my other ubuntu box, where i use thunderbird, anytime i click on a mailto: link it pops up the evolution setup, which is tremendously annoying
[07:59] <site> i need universe too
[07:59] <blue-frog> Kanye, synpatic>repo>show disabled source...
[07:59] <Victor3D> MARCOS falo
[07:59] <site> w8 i got it i tjhink
[08:00] <mwe> yaaar: I don't use gnome but I'm sure you can configure it to open tbird for mailto links
[08:00] <HappyFool> !pt
[08:00] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[08:00] <OrngeTide> where do firefox and mozilla load their initial preferences from? I nuke the .mozilla and firefox directories from my home dir. and even uninstall and reinstall firefox and I have the same broken preferences (all the menus are empty). I know it's the preferences because it also uses my same homepage.
[08:00] <blue-frog> ohoh brazilian ubotu is female..
[08:00] <Kanye> repo?
[08:00] <Kanye> ki dont see that
[08:00] <marcos> valeu amigo
[08:00] <yaaar> OrngeTide: that actually sounds a lot like a broken plugin
[08:00] <site> no Damnit, i clicked on It i clicked on universe...... and a sec later its GONE :S
[08:00] <yaaar> OrngeTide: or extension rather
[08:01] <site> i dont know why or what i do wrong
[08:01] <OrngeTide> well I nuked /usr/lib/mozilla and mozilla-firefox
[08:01] <yaaar> OrngeTide: try moving the contents of your plugins and extensions directories to somewhere else and see if the problem goes away
[08:01] <OrngeTide> where does it get my home directory from?
[08:01] <Kanye> im on synaptic right now where do i find repo?
[08:01] <demona> grr, all i wanna do is play music from my other linux box, and konqueror randomly crashes browsing samba shares, and every so often while trying to play the music, smbiod goes into a death spiral sucking up tons of CPU. last night i actually had to do a hard reset :(
[08:01] <OrngeTide> i deleted them all. they don't exist.
[08:01] <fissy> site: open synaptic; click on settings menu; click on repositories option; click on add; check all the click boxes; click ok; close software preferences window; click on synaptic toolbar reload button.
[08:01] <demona> and google finds nothing helpful with smbiod load/cpu
[08:01] <oupsla> do you know the repositery for libavcodec2 (xdtv)?
[08:01] <Kanye> got it
[08:02] <yaaar> OrngeTide: i had that same problem one time because of the useragent switcher extension....i had upgraded firefox, and the extension was broke on the new version. had to remove that extension before anything would work right
[08:02] <polpak> demona, have you tried smbfs and smb4k?
[08:02] <psusi> demona: try switching to gnome? :)
[08:02] <OrngeTide> yaaar, yea. I don't have any extensions. /usr/lib/mozilla and /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox don't even exist.
[08:02] <yaaar> hmmm
[08:02] <demona> polpak, i'm using whatever the standard method is for mounting, df -T reports smbfs
[08:02] <MaxEmtSti> can some one look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6603
[08:03] <OrngeTide> also I'm curious as to where it's getting my home directory info from
[08:03] <site> i still dont see universe, but i foiund bittornado already so i think its installed :p
[08:03] <OrngeTide> s/home directory/home page
[08:03] <yaaar> demona: if it's linux/linux communication, why not use nfs?
[08:03] <polpak> demona, oh you set up the entry in fstab?
[08:03] <yaaar> demona: also, you could try mounting it with cifs instead
[08:03] <demona> cause i already had a samba server running on the other machine and i want it accessible to windows machines also
[08:03] <cdsmith> can anyone help me figure out how to get this new scsi card and drive to work in a already running system?  I dont want to have to reinstall
[08:03] <cdsmith> im sure its something simple
[08:04] <demona> one of the entries is set up in fstab, i hadn't put the others in there until i was sure they would work.
[08:04] <site> now i need to know how to open bittornado and where its located :9
[08:04] <Kanye> ok i tried to log in under root-but it says admin cannot login from this window how can i fix this? im trying to drop some themes i downloaded
[08:04] <psusi> smbfs and cifs are one and the same are they not?
[08:04] <polpak> demona, well I haven't had any such problems using smbfs under gnome & nautilus
[08:04] <stark-johan> I read a guide to run purftpd and pureadmin and I'm supposed to "debianize" the pureadmin sources, How can I do that? (or should I maybe just compile the normal way)
[08:04] <fissy> people new to irc, if your message is aimed at someone, put their name at the front of it and you're more likely to get an answer
[08:04] <polpak> Kanye, just use sudo
[08:05] <psusi> tell Kanye about root
[08:05] <demona> so far i havent had problems using mplayer at the command line playing mp3's from the samba mount. no cpu load, etc.
[08:05] <polpak> ubotu tell Kanye about root
[08:05] <polpak> ubotu tell Kanye about sudo
[08:05] <polpak> oh, their the same
[08:05] <OrngeTide> fissy, what if I want to talk to myself?
[08:05] <polpak> they're rather
[08:05] <OrngeTide> OrngeTide, hello.
[08:05] <cdsmith> ANYONE: any clue how to add a scsi card and drive to a alreayd running system without a full reinstall..  kernel picked up the scsi card at boot..but i cant fdisk the drive
[08:05] <fissy> OrngeTide, just like that :P
[08:06] <polpak> cdsmith, dmesg shows the drive?
[08:06] <psusi> cdsmith: what do you mean you can't fdisk it?
[08:06] <TecnoVM64> Anybody compiled the kernel 2.6.15 around here?, i lost the usplash after that :(
[08:06] <OrngeTide> OrngeTide, do you have any idea why firefox is broken?
[08:06] <MaxEmtSti> any 1 that lookd at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6603
[08:06] <OrngeTide> OrngeTide, nope. no idea
[08:06] <polpak> cdsmith, if it comes up in dmesg then you should have no trouble fdisking it
[08:06] <cdsmith> polpak: dmesg doesnt show the drive just the scsi card itself
[08:06] <TUKS> cdsmith: you want to move your installation to that scsi disk?
[08:06] <psusi> cdsmith: are you sure it doesnt mention the drive?
[08:06] <cdsmith> TUKS: no i wont just the extra space since i had a few 40 gig scsi drives and a ultra160 card layin around
[08:07] <yaaar> did you guys know that an nfs volume that's supposed to mount on boot will only work if you're using static ip addressing?
[08:07] <cdsmith> psusi: yes im sure
[08:07] <MaxEmtSti> I have 2 pc's one of them is running on Ubuntu and has two network cards,eth0 wich i use for internet and eth1 wich i use for lan.The other is XP has one network card and is connected to the Ubuntu. I came to the level where the XP can ping the eth0 address but no further, and when i try to ping google with the XP it resolves his address but gets no replay. Can somebody tell me what info do u want me to post so you can see where the problem is.
[08:07] <site> now i need to know how to open bittornado and where its located
[08:07] <yaaar> i just found that out last night.....doesn't seem like that should be
[08:07] <OrngeTide> .. so far my only idea is to reinstall ubuntu from scratch. I can't imagine where it's pulling these preferences from. it's driving me nuts
[08:07] <site> i cant find bittornado
[08:07] <site> i installed it but i dont know where it is now
[08:07] <site> with search option  i cant find it
[08:07] <yaaar> OrngeTide: you've completely removed firefox and reinstalled it?
[08:07] <OrngeTide> yaaar, several times
[08:08] <yaaar> hmf
[08:08] <OrngeTide> and when i reinstall it still has my old homepage. (and I deleted my .mozilla directory)
[08:08] <yaaar> OrngeTide: wow....that's creepy
[08:08] <yaaar> OrngeTide: all i can say is you must be missing it somehow.....
[08:08] <site> psusi,  u still here?
[08:08] <site> or someone else?
[08:08] <psusi> site: yes
[08:08] <dwhsi1> how would I tell Synaptic to look in online repositories for /everything/ (e.g. not look to the CD)?  I don't have the CD with me right now...
[08:08] <OrngeTide> yaaar, there is a step in the installer where it says something about the chrome registry. so that has to be where it's coming from
[08:09] <site> i cant find bittornado
[08:09] <site> i installed it but i dont know where it is now
[08:09] <yaaar> maybe remove it and do an 'updatedb && locate prefs.js'
[08:09] <site> with search option  i cant find it
[08:09] <psusi> cdsmith: then I'd say the drive isn't connected correctly or is broken
[08:09] <OrngeTide> dwhsi1, go into the repository option from the menu bar and delete the CD rom source
[08:09] <demona> possibly it's because samba 2 is on the server and samba 3 here on the workstation? L)
[08:09] <mufaddal> #rubyonrails
[08:09] <TUKS> cdsmith: does you system boot normaly?
[08:09] <OrngeTide> yaaar, Updating mozilla-firefox chrome registry...done.
[08:09] <psusi> site: you need to enable the universe repository and reload
[08:09] <site> i did that right?
[08:10] <site> cos i found bittornado in syn now
[08:10] <site> and installed it too
[08:10] <site> but now i dont know where it it is
[08:10] <site> i installed it but i dont know where it is now
[08:10] <psusi> it is installed on your hard drive silly ;)
[08:10] <fissy> site, try pressing alt-f2 and typing in bittornado
[08:10] <djstillman> site - Reboot and look in your apps menu...
[08:11] <fissy> site, that applet should auto-complete and help you spell it right
[08:11] <psusi> it doesn't get on the menu... just download a torrent and it opens
[08:11] <site> where on my harddrive
[08:11] <site> i dont see it
[08:11] <Storkme> wierd, how do i run quake4 on ubuntu? i just installed it
[08:11] <psusi> site: have you never used a torrent before?
[08:11] <site> yes i did
[08:11] <psusi> site: you don't run the program... you download a .torrent file in your web browser
[08:11] <psusi> and it opens
[08:11] <site> yep
[08:12] <site> but u can open it too
[08:12] <psusi> nope
[08:12] <site> cos i want to change port
[08:12] <fissy> wierd, when you installed it, did you remember where it said it was putting it?
[08:12] <psusi> download a torrent and when it opens you can change teh port
[08:12] <site> yes u can open a torrentclient :\
[08:12] <fissy> psusi, *
[08:12] <fissy> arse
[08:12] <fissy> sorry
[08:12] <fissy> Storkme, * did you note where the installer installed?
[08:13] <Chris_Tucker> anyone here experienced with ATi Cards/ tv-out?
[08:13] <site> hm, but i see btdownloadgui only psusi
[08:13] <dwhsi1> OrngeTide: that did it, thanks
[08:13] <fissy> Storkme, you probably need to run something like /usr/local/games/quake4 but i thought those installers were good enough to install a launcher into the gnome menu for you
[08:13] <psusi> site: that's it...
[08:13] <site> not bittornado in there in the menu
[08:13] <psusi> err...
[08:13] <site> no thats bittorrent
[08:13] <Storkme> i thought so, this one didn't
[08:13] <psusi> right... I told you, bit tornado isn't on the menu, it opens automatically
[08:13] <djstillman> site - that is bittornato...
[08:14] <site> so bittornado is standard in ubuntu?
[08:14] <psusi> djstillman: no, I believe that is the gnome downloader
[08:14] <djstillman> Mine says btdownloadgui and it is bittornado...
[08:14] <psusi> site: just go download a .torrent file ok ;)
[08:14] <tcpip> HappyFool: md5 on the burnt cd seems to be OK 'Files not changed.'
[08:14] <djstillman> That is even the name from the bittornado website...
[08:14] <site> ok, but how do i change the port ?
[08:15] <HappyFool> tcpip: hmm
[08:15] <psusi> site: under the options
[08:15] <site> im getting a error right now, and i cant click it away
[08:15] <site> it freezes
[08:15] <site> cant delete user configuration blabla
[08:15] <site> how do i close it?
[08:15] <Do[k] Ho`> re-bonsoir
[08:15] <Do[k] Ho`> qqu'un utilise gaim ?
[08:16] <djstillman> !fr
[08:16] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:16] <HappyFool> !fr
[08:16] <Do[k] Ho`> ooppss sorry
[08:16] <site> psusi,  i didnt see options in the bittornado gui neither
[08:16] <C-O-L-T> I AM BACK
[08:16] <site> k
[08:16] <ZooG> Hello
[08:16] <Do[k] Ho`> thx good bye
[08:17] <HappyFool> tcpip: so the CD is probably good. It looks like ubuntu is having problems with your cdrom drive
[08:17] <psusi> site: there's tons of options in the bit tornado gui
[08:17] <ZooG> you guys and gals know ereyting about Linux?
[08:17] <site> yes but i cant see them
[08:17] <site> only the about thing, and i cant click that neither
[08:17] <HappyFool> tcpip: you are installing on the machine which burnt the CD?
[08:17] <psusi> site: look at the top of the window iirc, there's like 4 links... advanced, settings... something like that
[08:17] <HappyFool> tcpip: i.e., using the same cd-rom and other hardware?
[08:18] <tcpip> HappyFool: btw i am using Sony DVDrw 810
[08:18] <tcpip> yes
[08:18] <site> ok psusi , but how do i get rid of that freezed errro
[08:18] <site> error
[08:18] <everett_> Why the hell is the CPP failing a sanity check when I have gcc 3.3, 3.4 and 4.0 installed. :/
[08:18] <psusi> site: no idea
[08:18] <site> damn
[08:18] <site> i hate those errors u cant click away
[08:18] <site> stupid shit
[08:19] <fissy> everett_, having them installed doesn't mean that any more than the 'broken' one gets used
[08:19] <site> can i kill the process somehow psusi ?
[08:19] <site> u know that?
[08:19] <ZooG> Has anyone installed a PCI ADSL card
[08:19] <psusi> site: yea... close the window
[08:19] <site> cant
[08:19] <pi9inE> guys, will my battery at laptop be longer "alive" at linux instead of win?
[08:19] <psusi> why not?
[08:19] <site> freezed
[08:19] <OrngeTide> wow. I stuck a blank cd in my ubuntu box and it saw it and asked me if I wanted to burn anything. right after I finished reading the manpage for cdrecord to figure out how to use it. ahah:)
[08:20] <psusi> clicking the close button should pop up and say the app is frozen, force quit?
[08:20] <site> no nothing happens
[08:20] <site> i click on it nothing happens
[08:20] <Kyral> lol OrngeTide its suppposed to do that no?
[08:20] <psusi> then fire up gnome-system-monitor and kill the process
[08:20] <site> its freezed and i cant do anything
[08:20] <HappyFool> tcpip: i'm running out of ideas. if you have enough spare CD-R's, you can try burning at slow speed, but i doubt that will help. Perhaps you have unsupported hardware.
[08:20] <OrngeTide> pi9inE, about the same. linux doesn't have SpeedStep drivers. but it can do some power management. also linux is much more effecient with cpu than windows typically is.
[08:20] <site> i want to kill it
[08:20] <site> but how?
[08:20] <OrngeTide> Kyral, well I didn't realize it did it. i'm impressed:)
[08:20] <polpak> pi9inE, I'm not sure what you mean
[08:20] <site> psusi,
[08:21] <jahshua--> can someone tell me what i need to play .wmv files please ? totem isnt working nor VLC ?  :/
[08:21] <site> u know how to ?
[08:21] <foxgamer> site, use ps aux to find the PID number of the frozen app and then kill PIDNUMBER to kill it
[08:21] <psusi> site: I just said, fire up gnome-system-monitor and kill the process
[08:21] <djstillman> site - kill it from the gnome system monitor...
[08:21] <Kyral> OrngeTide: now you know my response the first time I plugged in my Digicam and GThumb came up and asked me if I wanted to import :D
[08:21] <site> ok
[08:21] <pi9inE> polpak: I mean if you using it somehow "normal" .. time for windows is like 2 hours.. can be extended a lil bit at linux, cause it's not using that much CPU and RAM
[08:21] <Kyral> jahshua--: I don't mean to be rude, but do you think getting Windows Media Video to work on Linux would to easy ;P
[08:22] <tcpip> HappyFool: u knw where during installation do i insert this 'hdparam -d' .. read it somewhere
[08:22] <blue-frog> tcpip, install from hdd so u will be fixed on what goes wrong..
[08:22] <OrngeTide> Kyral, people keep telling me "linux isn't ready for the desktop" .. well getting my usb scanner and network printer to work on linux was a heck of a lot easier than it waws on my gf's Windows XP machine.
[08:22] <jahshua--> Kryal no thats why im asking for help :)
[08:22] <Jowi> site: xkill is a nice command to know! type it in, point and click to kill it
[08:22] <Kyral> jahshua--: lol
[08:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: it's in the expert install
[08:22] <Kyral> anyway I'm off to lunch
[08:22] <MarcN> OrngeTide: which scanner do you have?
[08:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: at some point you're prompted for 'parameters for the CD-ROM drive' (or something like that)
[08:22] <OrngeTide> MarcN, an old CanoScan
[08:22] <HappyFool> tcpip: you can enter     -d 1      in the text entry area
[08:23] <site> i did Jowi
[08:23] <OneFix_Work> Umh, it seems that there's a problem on my LiveCDs (I got a package of the pressed CDs)...there seems to be an error durring the boot operation
[08:23] <jahshua--> Kryal wanna help ?
[08:23] <site> where is gnome system monitor  ?
[08:23] <OrngeTide> I ahve one on my network printer, but i haven't figure out how to do TWAIN over the network (but it's supposed to be possible)
[08:23] <tcpip> Happyfool: thanks will try that cya l8r
[08:23] <djstillman> site - applications > system tools
[08:23] <visit0r> hi, my computer does not boot after the latest kernel upgrade. I also suspect hard disk corruption due to this. anyone can help me?
[08:23] <HappyFool> tcpip: i'd be amazed if it helps, but it's worth trying. the expert install is a little tricky to use (not unexpectedly ;)
[08:23] <HappyFool> good luck
[08:24] <visit0r> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=627305#post627305
[08:24] <OneFix_Work> It happens specifically during the loading of "casper-udev"
[08:24] <visit0r> I posted more descriptions there
[08:24] <OrngeTide> well of fto lunch.
[08:24] <ZooG> Do any of you guys have few min. to spare on a noob?
[08:24] <djstillman> ZooG - What's up?
[08:24] <mwe> visit0r: boot from a live cd and run fsck. also sanity check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:24] <ZooG> ADSL problems
[08:25] <fissy> ZooG, we can try our best
[08:25] <ZooG> I installed ubunto amd64
[08:25] <poningru> doesnt totem play mpeg out of the box?
[08:25] <ZooG> and so far it is working great
[08:25] <OneFix_Work> Ok, this is even stranger...I rebooted the machine and it loaded fine...
[08:25] <ZooG> apart from my PCI ADSL adapter
[08:25] <mwe> !mp3
[08:25] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:25] <visit0r> mwe: yes, that's the first thing I'll try tomorrow when I get back to work...
[08:25] <demona> Further data: I copied a 400Mb file over samba at the command line, with no problem, no smbiod going nuts and sucking up CPU.
[08:25] <polpak> pi9inE, I don't know. It'll probably be comperable. But perhaps not
[08:26] <ZooG> It is a Telewell TW-EA300C
[08:26] <djstillman> Zoog - is it shown in lspci?
[08:26] <Storkme> god installing quake4 on linux is proving to be difficult
[08:26] <TTilus> ZooG: pastebin you lspci
[08:26] <site> damnit, i cant find it in gnome system monitro
[08:26] <ZooG> tgood question?
[08:26] <site> how is taht command again
[08:26] <site> ps aux
[08:26] <djstillman> site - REBOOT!!
[08:27] <site> not yhet DJSlakoR
[08:27] <TTilus> djstillman: lame :)
[08:27] <mwe> visit0r: mm. is it an old bios?
[08:27] <site> djstillman,
[08:27] <raphink> djstillman: what's that option?
[08:27] <pi9inE> i made it! :)
[08:27] <imperfectus> Is there a GUI GTK Theme editor
[08:27] <pi9inE> it's done
[08:27] <pi9inE> installed
[08:27] <raphink> djstillman: you don't need to reboot a linux box :p
[08:27] <site> im downloading SP2 and its getting verrrrrrrrrrrrrry slow
[08:27] <ZooG> I am using windows at the moment..
[08:27] <everett_> ARGH. STOP FAILING THE SANITY CHECK STUPID CPP
[08:27] <djstillman> raphink - Bullshit!!  All computers need it occasionally...
[08:27] <mwe> everett_: get build-essential if you didn't
[08:27] <site> yea
[08:27] <raphink> site : why are you installing such a horrible stuff?
[08:28] <site> but how do i kill that mofo bastard
[08:28] <TTilus> ZooG: did you manage to configure network?
[08:28] <site> bittornado u mean raphael ?
[08:28] <site> raphink
[08:28] <ZooG> TTilus: no
[08:28] <raphink> site: I mean SP2
[08:28] <TTilus> ZooG: you did not have any interfaces or?
[08:28] <everett_> mwe, I installed gnome-devel, package, etc. But I forgot about build-essential. :/
[08:28] <djstillman> site - what window is stuck open with the error?
[08:28] <ZooG> but then agane I am new to Linux so I put that on me
[08:28] <ZooG> not the system ;o)
[08:28] <ompaul> djstillman, after a kernel upgrade which on a server unless due to security reasons should be less than once every year
[08:29] <visit0r> mwe: no.
[08:29] <visit0r> mew: quite new machine actually, has even a P3 3.4G CPU
[08:29] <site> djstillman, , this error : cant delete user configuration file blablablabullshit
[08:29] <ZooG> TTilus there is a network adapter and I think it reconices a ADSL adapter
[08:29] <rhythminmind> would anyone know how to deal with this apt-get error
[08:29] <TTilus> ZooG: first thing to check, does the card show up on lspci and second, what interfaces you have (run ifconfig)
[08:30] <rhythminmind> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/cpio_2.5-1.2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb: unable to open files list file for package `libxfixes-dev'
[08:30] <visit0r> mwe: worked quite fine until today's upgrade
[08:30] <zenlunatic> how do i backup my firefox bookmarks?
[08:30] <site> raphink, XP needs SP2 otherwise it doesnt see my harddisk
[08:30] <site> without sp2, xp sucks
[08:30] <TTilus> ZooG: where is "there" where there is a network adapter?
[08:30] <mgorbach> can someone help me out? i cant get my network connection dns configured
[08:30] <raphink> site: SP2 is one of the worse licenses ever
[08:30] <raphink> and XP might need SP2
[08:30] <raphink> but I don't know who on earth needs XP ;)
[08:30] <ZooG> TTilus: I will check this out
[08:31] <site> xp does need SP2
[08:31] <mwe> visit0r: it's just the error you get
[08:31] <ZooG> TTilus I wil be back in a sec with some usable info
[08:31] <Jowi> zenlunatic: they are located in your home dir under .mozilla/firefox/ and then a wierd directory name
[08:31] <site> but djstillman  i get that error , and now what?
[08:31] <mwe> visit0r: Error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS
[08:31] <site> how can i kill it?
[08:31] <site> ps aux
[08:31] <site> ok, i see a bunch of files
[08:31] <mgorbach> can someone help me out? i cant get my network connection dns configured?
[08:31] <Belboz99> Hey, I've got a gstreamer error, how do I restart Gtreamer without rebooting?
[08:31] <TTilus> mgorbach: /etc/resolv.conf ?
[08:31] <rhythminmind> any apt-get gurus?
[08:31] <mgorbach> yeah i set that up it has the name of my nameserver
[08:31] <mwe> visit0r: that indicates the problem of some bioses booting beyon cylinder 1023
[08:32] <TTilus> mgorbach: what is your problem
[08:32] <site> how do i know where that btgui thing is located
[08:32] <visit0r> mwe: that's not my error, I replied to that message because I thought this is the same problem, but I didn't get that error. check the last reply.
[08:32] <tuhl> what has to be done to auto-probe an later installed X-sever?
[08:32] <mgorbach> DNS wont resolve
[08:32] <fissy>  $ whereis btgui
[08:32] <TTilus> mgorbach: what you do, what you expect to happen and what happens instead?
[08:32] <mwe> visit0r: ah ok.
[08:32] <fissy> or even better :D $ locate btgui
[08:32] <site> cd usr/bin
[08:32] <Jowi> zenlunatic: if you have several directories there look in .mozilla/firefox/profiles.ini which path is the one in use
[08:32] <site> wont help
[08:32] <mgorbach> well if i tell irssi to connect to irc.freenode.org, it doesnt work
[08:32] <site> wrong dir etc :(
[08:32] <mgorbach> if i give it freenode's IP ... it does
[08:33] <mgorbach> so clearly the connection is configured but DNS isnt working
[08:33] <lourdesisaac> hi
[08:33] <shining_> it's annoying, my laptop doesnt want to shut its mouth for a week now. it's making a lot of noise
[08:33] <TTilus> mgorbach: do you know what your dns server ip's should be?
[08:33] <lourdesisaac> anyone have a fix for a ps/2 mouse?
[08:33] <site> finally i got the error away
[08:33] <TTilus> mgorbach: can you ping them?
[08:33] <TTilus> mgorbach: whats the result?
[08:33] <shining_> When idle, it used to calm down, but it doesn't anymore. it's really weird
[08:33] <everett_> mwe, after two weeks of work, trying to get this stupid electron microscope software working (not even tested the hardware yet) I finally passed the last hurdle. Words cannot express how thankful I am. Now that I'm almost done with this software, hopefully I can get the electron microscope working, and then I can get back to working on the funding request proposal for a research center. thanks.
[08:34] <TTilus> mgorbach228: what says $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[08:34] <concept10> has anyone safely resized a ext3 partition on a dual boot system with ntfs?
[08:34] <Belboz99> hey, how do I restart Gstreamer?
[08:34] <rhythminmind> nope only resized NTFS
[08:34] <keldo> hi everyone, I run linux for the first time every, it is beatiful
[08:34] <fissy> welcome keldo
[08:35] <keldo> thanks
[08:35] <keldo> it feel very good
[08:35] <concept10> I need to make ntfs smaller, larger ext3, not sure if if would be safe to do so, or not.
[08:35] <fissy> keldo, be sure to check out http://www.gnome-look.org too
[08:35] <poningru> concept10: it is save
[08:35] <Belboz99> concetp10, you might want to try reading about gparted
[08:35] <mwe> visit0r: ok. sounds like you could be in real trouble if fsck can't fix it
[08:35] <keldo> i shall
[08:36] <visit0r> mwe: yeah, that's what I'm afraid of :(
[08:36] <Jowi> Belboz99: you can re-register the plugins, but that's it.
[08:36] <Belboz99> okay, how do I do that Jowi?
[08:36] <visit0r> mwe: luckily I don't have too important stuff stored there, but still.. sucks..
[08:36] <rhythminmind> well i'm about to redo my ubuntu system. i'm not sure how to fix my apt-get error so it seems like the thing for me to do.. i've rynced my home dir but man this is still going to be a pain
[08:36] <mwe> visit0r: yeah
[08:37] <jared_> I'm trying to install a OpenLDAP server at home. what sort of stuff will be to configure after the apt-get?
[08:37] <site> why does my torrent not start?
[08:37] <Belboz99> rhythminmind, were you using dpkg?
[08:37] <Jowi> Belboz99: "gst-register-0.8"
[08:37] <visit0r> mwe: worse even is that I don't know should I install ubuntu anymore if it breaks again..
[08:37] <RedRose> is there any way i can limit or cap the amount of processor my users take up?
[08:37] <concept10> rhythminmind, what is your error?
[08:38] <rhythminmind> no i wanst messing with dpkg
[08:38] <rhythminmind> i've done that to
[08:38] <rhythminmind> =)
[08:38] <site> why does my torrent not start?
[08:38] <rhythminmind> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/cpio_2.5-1.2ubuntu1.1_i386.deb: unable to open files list file for package `libxfixes-dev'
[08:38] <mwe> RedRose: I don't know how to do it per user basis, but you can "renice" processes
[08:38] <rhythminmind> my error
[08:38] <site> i configured ports..
[08:38] <SirKillalot> Hi, I switched from gnome to kde with the meta package but I experience a problem playing videos in KDE.on Gnome and Enlightenment everything was flewently, but now I get lags in videos every 20 seconds or so if I scale it too big or even fullscreen
[08:38] <Belboz99> Jowi, the code executed fine, but it didn't solve my problem :(
[08:38] <SirKillalot> anyone got an idea what the problem could be?
[08:38] <djstillman> site, did you get my pm?
[08:38] <Jowi> Belboz99: what is the prob then?
[08:39] <RedRose> mwe: Well Just In General, So they can run a script to just clog up my processor...
[08:39] <mwe> visit0r: ubnutu doesn't break more than windows. less if anything. it's just bad luck
[08:39] <_oP> hello all
[08:39] <Jowi> hi _oP
[08:39] <mwe> visit0r: however, always backup important stuff no matter the OS
[08:39] <Belboz99> Jowi, I don't know.  I was playing some flac's and when I loaded some new tracks I got a gstreamer error and now I can't play anything
[08:39] <site> no DJSlakoR
[08:39] <site> djstillman,
[08:39] <site> no
[08:40] <Belboz99> Jowi, oh, in AmaroK
[08:40] <Jowi> Belboz99: do you happen to know which error?
[08:40] <Jowi> oh
[08:40] <keldo> fissy, i like that site, do you know one about php and apache too?
[08:40] <visit0r> mwe: sure...
[08:41] <RedRose> mwe:Any suggestions?
[08:41] <djstillman> site - check again?
[08:41] <Belboz99> Jowi, AmaroK is being rather vauge
[08:41] <site> ah the torrent starts finally
[08:41] <djstillman> lmao
[08:41] <site> dont know why it took so long
[08:41] <Jowi> Belboz99: try in totem or rhythmbox. they use gstreamer as well
[08:41] <Belboz99> Jowi: "some media cannot be played" "gstreamer error"
[08:41] <fissy> keldo, for installing them on a server?
[08:41] <site> i can get pissed when things dont work :p
[08:42] <djstillman> site - I saw...
[08:42] <Jowi> Belboz99: sounds more like you're missing a plugin. what are you trying to play?
[08:42] <site> hehe
[08:42] <Mindtzar> and the people in the ubuntu support channel
[08:42] <Jowi> Belboz99: could also be a corrupted file, but missing plugin is more common
[08:42] <visit0r> mwe: can't recall any other distro/OS corrupted my HD though, such a disappointment as Ubuntu is my fav distro
[08:42] <polpak> <3 ubuntu <3
[08:42] <everett_> Anybody ever use vnc2swf?
[08:42] <mwe> visit0r: I have never personally had a file system break down in almost ten in linux though I've seen one now and then
[08:43] <pi9inE> this linux looks lovely :)
[08:43] <Belboz99> Jowi, they were all playing fine ten minutes ago.  I loaded some flac's into Amarok and now ever media file I play says "There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins"
[08:43] <polpak> visit0r, you can't really blame ubuntu. The kernel is what controls the FS ;p
[08:43] <mwe> visit0r: I'm sure it's not related to ubuntu. I could have happened with any distro/os
[08:43] <rhythminmind> Belboz99: have you reinstalled the gstreamer plugins.. or tried del the .gstreamer-0.8 dir
[08:43] <visit0r> mwe: I had something like that with RH 6.0 years ago
[08:43] <pozdiy_> after upgrading to Dapper some GUI applications cannot open local display, what to do?
[08:43] <polpak> pi9inE, glad you like it =)
[08:43] <visit0r> polpak, mwe: true
[08:44] <keldo> fissy, someting about easy dhtml on a local test server
[08:44] <Jowi> Belboz99: ah. try to quit amarok. ps -A to see if gstreamer is still active and kill it (if a prog need it it will be restarted)
[08:45] <fissy> keldo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=ApachePHPMySQL <-- hopefully that is some help
[08:45] <bur[n] er> question of the day:  Pocket PC or Palm
[08:45] <everett_> What is a good way to back up? I'm even willing to buy a tape system if nessacary, if anyone has any recommendations.
[08:45] <everett_> Losing data on this machine is NOT an option. :/
[08:46] <visit0r> mwe: how heavily patched (compared to vanilla) is ubuntu kernel, btw?
[08:46] <bur[n] er> everett_: i use USB hard drives
[08:46] <everett_> hrm
[08:46] <everett_> with what program?
[08:46] <MastherOnix> aloooooooop
[08:46] <rhythminmind> everett: rsync to the firewire or usb drive
[08:46] <MastherOnix> llegueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:46] <bur[n] er> everett_: rsync
[08:46] <mwe> visit0r: I'm not sure. I use a custom vanilla kernel.
[08:46] <MastherOnix> mojojojo
[08:46] <MastherOnix> donde tay
[08:46] <Seicherl> hi there: noobish question: whats a good size for the swap partition?
[08:46] <MastherOnix> alop
[08:46] <mwe> visit0r: I think you were just unlucky.
[08:47] <Jowi> everett_: the simplest (read "cheapest") way is to save the files to a cd or rsync to a second HDD that you store somewhere else.
[08:47] <polpak> Seicherl, well, the kernel people still recommend 2x your RAM
[08:47] <mwe> visit0r: I don't think it's because of a bad kernel
[08:47] <everett_> So if my system died, how easy would it be to reload the entire OS without doing an installation on an identical system? Using Rsync?
[08:47] <ompaul> Seicherl, 2x ram up to about a gig or two
[08:47] <visit0r> mwe: well, the upgrade was not an upstream upgrade but a package upgrade, therefore I suspect it's not the vanilla kernel that caused this.
[08:47] <Seicherl> ok, so it's still the "twotimesrule"... been some years since i set up a linux last time
[08:47] <djstillman> bur[n] er - go for a linux asus pda or an older zaurus...
[08:47] <Seicherl> thank you!
[08:47] <polpak> everett_, well you'd essentially have to boot up from the usb/firewire drive and rsync back to your internal drive, then reinstall grub
[08:47] <Jowi> everett_: the "one-touch" external disks are quite handy.
[08:48] <keldo> fissy, thank a lot
[08:48] <visit0r> mwe: hopefully... well I'll investigate more tomorrow with the livecd
[08:48] <MastherOnix> rr
[08:48] <mwe> visit0r: still, an upgrade hosing your fs? sounds like bad luck or an unstable disk to me
[08:48] <Belboz99> Jowi, I got flac's playing again
[08:49] <bur[n] er> djstillman: know where to get an asus pda?
[08:49] <Belboz99> Jowi: MP3's are still a no-go
[08:49] <visit0r> mwe: exactly... but the whole machine is  brand new so I don't suspect broken HW, especially as it worked fine before the upgrade
[08:49] <Belboz99> I think I'm going to have to reboot, even though that's one of the reasons I switched to Linux
[08:49] <Jowi> Belboz99: reinstall gstreamer0.8-mad and run the gst-register command
[08:49] <Belboz99> k
[08:50] <everett_> Jowi, that would be best, because this electron microscope was built for my high school by me in my senior year, if the software dies while I'm in the navy, I doubt anyone in the city would have the expertise to install ubuntu, GXSM, and then the SRanger software. if the hardware dies they can always take it to M.S.U., any recommendations for a one touch drive?
[08:50] <Seicherl> how would you mount a fat partition you use for datainterchange with win? I mean the mount point (like /home or /msishell ...)
[08:50] <Belboz99> Jowi, lol, Gstreamer Mad wasn't even installed :P
[08:50] <BearHunter> I am thinking of installing ubuntu as a file/print server for a few windows xp boxes, I am still in linux newbie land and I have a few questions
[08:50] <Jowi> Belboz99: the mad package is the mp3 support :)
[08:50] <djstillman> bur[n] er - check your pm
[08:51] <rhythminmind> speaking of this.. does anyone know of a recovery system like mondo or norton ghost?  mondo isnt the best
[08:51] <BearHunter> i have used clarkconnect and SME server before and both were ok, how does ubuntu compare?
[08:51] <bur[n] er> djstillman: i have no pm
[08:51] <bur[n] er> djstillman: u registered with nickserv?
[08:52] <ZooG> ok back
[08:52] <djstillman> bur[n] er - I thought so...
[08:52] <keir> I have a asus z33A laptop. I got hibernate working with breezy (as in, 'sudo hibernate' does the right thing, a keypress brings it back), but when i close the lid breezy just calls xscreensaver rather than hibernate. how do i change the settings so the laptop hibernates when i close the lid?
[08:52] <Jowi> everett_: well, not really. Maxtor produces some that i know are pretty reliable. but as always, some people preffer one brand over the other.
[08:53] <bur[n] er> djstillman: on the asus website, all the PDAs are windows based
[08:53] <ZooG> TTilus in my Device manager I can se a Unknown (0x00ed)
[08:53] <Belboz99> Jowi, that's crazy.  I had libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed, and I thought that's all I needed from mad.  MP3's WERE playing for the past few days, but they just stopped
[08:53] <everett_> Hrm, yeah, maxtor is pretty cheap too.
[08:53] <djstillman> bur[n] er - At one point they had offered a pda that did linux...
[08:53] <ZooG> TTilus ADSL AccsessRunner PCI Abiration device
[08:53] <Jowi> Belboz99: gstreamer uses its own plugins. that's truly "mad" ;-)
[08:53] <Belboz99> Jowi, do you think that when I installed Mplayer it uninstalled gstreamer mad?
[08:53] <everett_> Yeah, I think the one touch drive will be perfect.
[08:54] <site> what is a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[08:54] <site> winamp?
[08:54] <Belboz99> site: AmaroK
[08:54] <bur[n] er> djstillman: any recommendations between palm and pocket pc?
[08:54] <visit0r> I prefer amaroK
[08:54] <rhythminmind> rhythmbox
[08:54] <Seicherl> ups... i just did the partitioning at the installation and formated / as ext3. can i change that to etx2 afterwards (i had bad experiences with ext3)?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> site: amarok!  quodlibet!  rhythmbox!
[08:54] <djstillman> site - rythmbox like itunes, or xmms like winamp...
[08:54] <MeeKs_> is it practucal to use ubuntu as a file server
[08:54] <bur[n] er> site: beep-media-player
[08:54] <Kanye> how do i install power management or is there a laptop package for ubuntu that i can use?
[08:54] <bur[n] er> MeeKs_: definately
[08:54] <site> ok thanx a lot
[08:54] <leemoreau> Hey guys, is KDE or Gnome typically faster?  I have a old P2 400mhz with 32mb video and 400mb ram running Ubuntu.  I find it runs fast but its just switching windows and such that's slow.  Curious if KDE is any faster or if there's a better WM to use....
[08:54] <BearHunter> how about print server too?
[08:54] <Jowi> everett_: yeah the maxtor onetouch II are pretty price worthy i think
[08:55] <djstillman> bur[n] er - I have had many palms, and have always been unimpressed...
[08:55] <MeeKs_> bur[n] er: can i pm you
[08:55] <everett_> I'm wishing I didn't use such low-end hardware for this computer, but at least we are getting a expensive case/power supply and one touch drive for it. Even though it's a Pentium III with a 40GB hard drive. We were trying to cut costs, my high school almost went broke building the electron microscope. ;)
[08:55] <bur[n] er> leemoreau: Xfce... aka xubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <Belboz99> site: amaroK has built in Wikipedia and Lyrics, as well as awesome playlist creation and lossless audio compatabitlity
[08:55] <bur[n] er> MeeKs_: u can, i might leave soon
[08:55] <rhythminmind> nah kde is heavier in general
[08:55] <bur[n] er> djstillman: the Palm TX has my eye... as does the HP rx19xx
[08:55] <bur[n] er> KDE 3.5 is faster than Gnome I'd say
[08:55] <djstillman> HP has always been crappy for battery life...
[08:56] <leemoreau> burner if I'm already running 5.10 is it worth redownloading xubuntu and installing from scratch, or should I just install package xfce?
[08:56] <Seicherl> i just did the partitioning at the installation and formated / as ext3. can i change that to etx2 afterwards (i had bad experiences with ext3)?
[08:56] <rhythminmind> i prefer enlightenment myself..
[08:56] <bur[n] er> leemoreau: get the xubuntu-desktop package instead of just xfce
[08:56] <djstillman> bur[n] er - you have to have new?
[08:56] <bur[n] er> djstillman: i have to have wifi :)
[08:57] <BearHunter> does ubuntu support CUPS printing? I have canon bubblejet i want to connect to my ububtu server
[08:57] <djstillman> bur[n] er - http://tuxmobil.org/pda_linux.html
[08:57] <site> Belboz99, im downloadin it, amaroK
[08:57] <Jowi> leemoreau: maybe xfce or even ice-wm or qvwm is to consider
[08:57] <Kanye> i downloaded laptop wi-fi how do i access its interface?
[08:58] <leemoreau> Oh I didn't realize it was a package as well, so xubuntu-desktop same thing if I install, as downloading and burning the actual one without gnome?
[08:58] <bur[n] er> leemoreau: yeah
[08:58] <leemoreau> Oh great doing that now
[08:58] <leemoreau> Thanks a lot
[08:58] <housetier> can I tell make-kpkg to NOT make clean when (re-)compiling a kernel?
[08:59] <[Neo_xx] > i installed amsn but i didn't know that ubuntu already comes with gaim
[08:59] <[Neo_xx] > what other programs comes with ubuntu?
[08:59] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , many
[08:59] <bur[n] er> djstillman: know where I can buy one with linux and wifi?
[08:59] <bur[n] er> ;)
[08:59] <Storkme> god installing quake4 on linux is proving to be difficult
[08:59] <djstillman> bur[n] er - look for what you can convert to linux in that list...
[08:59] <polpak> Storkme, really?
[08:59] <Jowi> leemoreau: installed ubuntu on a VERY lowend p166 with 128mb ram the other day. go with the server install and then add what you need to minimise disk waste. go with a light wm. icewm is fast and use very low amount of ram
[08:59] <Seicherl> anybody plz gimme an answer
[09:00] <leemoreau> K
[09:00] <[Neo_xx] > how can i see all polpak ?
[09:00] <Seicherl> i just did the partitioning at the installation and formated / as ext3. can i change that to etx2 afterwards (i had bad experiences with ext3)?
[09:00] <Storkme> polpak, yeh, i just can't figure it out. what do i do with an .rpm file?
[09:00] <polpak> Storkme, apart from the downloading of files I'd have imagined it'd be fairly easy
[09:00] <leemoreau> Yeah it doesn't run too bad its really just a server but I'd like to use it once and awhile for other things so would be nice to be faster
[09:00] <BearHunter> I would like to install ubuntu as server on a 10GB drive and then add another drive for file storage later, is this easy to do for a newbie?
[09:00] <polpak> [Neo_xx] , go to system->administration->synaptic package manager
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, ext2 and 3 are the same except ext has journeling
[09:00] <ompaul> Seicherl, not as far as I know
[09:00] <Kanye> is there a program for ubuntu that will allow me to set contrast,gamma etc on my hp laptop?
[09:00] <polpak> Storkme,  use alien to turn it into a deb file
[09:00] <Storkme> what? lol
[09:01] <polpak> Storkme, did you read that website I showed you?
[09:01] <djstillman> bur[n] er - http://www.handhelds.org/geeklog/index.php
[09:01] <Storkme> yes
[09:01] <[Neo_xx] > and then polpak ?
[09:01] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: the thing is i had problems cause ext3 has no filerecovery.
[09:01] <ompaul> Seicherl, 3 is better than 2 if your machine goes "wheeeee"
[09:01] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: thats why i'd like to have ext2
[09:01] <leemoreau> K here's another question then, is there any way in Ubuntu to find out info on my motherboard so I can look online to see what processor I can upgrade it to? :P
[09:01] <gnomefreak> Seicherl,  ext is ext3 same filesystem except ext has journeling
[09:01] <Belboz99> Jowi: I figured it out.  Somewhere along the line AmaroK changed it's engine to gstreamer.  I was using Xine.  Changed it back to Xine and it's all good agian :)
[09:01] <spoonaman2> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:01] <spoonaman2> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:01] <Jowi> Kanye: depends on the video-card. some video-card drivers also have those controls in a seperate app, gamma can be adjusted manually in the xorg.conf file otherwise.
[09:01] <gnomefreak> as far as i know they are identical
[09:01] <spoonaman2> whats wrong?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, first thing is wrong is please use pastebin to paste
[09:02] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: ever tried to recover files?
[09:02] <Jowi> Belboz99: ah, haha. thought that you manually changed it to gstreamer cause you wanted it :)
[09:02] <blue-frog> could someone with chkrootkit make a check and tell if he/she has a warning with lkm pls?
[09:02] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, it was just two lines thats why i pasted here.
[09:02] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, next after you paste it to pastebin ask us again with the link to it
[09:02] <bur[n] er> thanks for the help djstillman, time to get shoppin ;)
[09:02] <Kanye> i have a p laptop when i was on windows i was able to twek how it looked using intels properties and photshops gamma program
[09:02] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2,  read /topic
[09:02] <blue-frog> on breezy preferably..
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, no i havent had to
[09:03] <Kanye> it looks kinda dull on ubuntu thats why i asked
[09:03] <Belboz99> Jowi: lol, I vauguely remember Amarok doing that late last night because of some random error or something
[09:03] <djstillman> bur[n] er - Good luck.  You have me wanting to convert one of my pdas...
[09:03] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: lucky you. should i just "kill" the installation and start again?
[09:03] <Storkme> polpak, so what do i do with an .rpm file? (keep it simple please :p)
[09:03] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: its not finished yet anyway
[09:03] <gnomefreak> qhy Seicherl  cause its ext3?
[09:03] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, it says nothing about my problem.
[09:03] <gnomefreak> why*
[09:03] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: yes and i HATE ext3
[09:03] <psusi> Seicherl: why?
[09:04] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: cause it killed all my holiday-photographs
[09:04] <polpak> Storkme, why do you have an rpm file.. I don't see it in the walkthrough
[09:04] <gnomefreak> psusi, he says ext 3 has no recovery
[09:04] <gnomefreak> file recovery
[09:04] <Seicherl> psusi: with no chance of recovering
[09:04] <plotino> ciao a tutti tranne a Windows .. :)
[09:04] <Storkme> polpak, something called libsdl ?
[09:04] <psusi> of course it does... it's journaled and has a fsck
[09:04] <polpak> Storkme, oh
[09:04] <site> hm, i dont hear anything, when i play a mp3
[09:04] <polpak> Storkme, you don't need that
[09:04] <ogra> Seicherl, they are 00% identical on the filesystem level, ext3 only has a journal file
[09:04] <ogra> 100%*
[09:04] <Kanye> Jowi, do you know a good wireless network manager program for ubuntu? one that will let me scan for networks etc
[09:04] <site> how do i know if my sound i setup correctly?
[09:04] <Storkme> polpak, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82837.html
[09:04] <Jowi> i really like ext3, but it did have some random probs 4-5 years ago. now it is solid
[09:04] <psusi> gnomefreak: it is.... you can add/remove the journal with tune2fs to convert between ext2 and 3
[09:05] <Jowi> Kanye: nope, no wifi here
[09:05] <Seicherl> ok, could that anybody tell me how to recover files?
[09:05] <Belboz99> hey, anyone know how to add applications to the panel?  I have some applications that I have to load at the terminal.  They have to executed with either the "sh" or "./" and I can't figure out how to get that to work with the panel
[09:05] <ompaul> Seicherl, if you had come to me you would have had your files recoverd -
[09:05] <Seicherl> then, not that
[09:05] <site> how do i know if my sound i setup correctly?
[09:05] <gnomefreak> psusi, thats what i thought
[09:05] <somerville32> Just to let you all know... }Matrix{ tried to comprimise a box of my friends today using some weak kiddie-script tools. I recommend not giving out shell access as he might try the same on your box.
[09:05] <ogra> Seicherl, so you can recover files the same way on both
[09:05] <twilight> plotino, il canale italiano e' #ubuntu-it, qui si parla inglese
[09:05] <Jowi> !wireless
[09:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:05] <Jowi> !wifi
[09:05] <gnomefreak> psusi,  ive been saying that to him last 5 mins :((
[09:05] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:05] <plotino> ok this is the global ubunutu irc chan?
[09:05] <Seicherl> ogra: i tried. didn't work
[09:05] <ogra> Seicherl, how did you try ?
[09:05] <plotino> not italian ... :D
[09:05] <aTypical> Kanye, I believe networkmanager will show all wireless networks it knows.
[09:05] <site> how do i know if my sound i setup correctly?
[09:05] <ompaul> Seicherl, more than likely the superblock was bad and that is a * to recover from but it can be done
[09:05] <pi9inE> why it's on desktop only one icon - hda1 ?
[09:05] <Seicherl> ompaul: tell me, it's still mounted read only
[09:05] <site> busy here
[09:06] <ogra> Seicherl, if you dump the inodes and put the pieces together it works exactly the same
[09:06] <djstillman> site - what sound card?
[09:06] <psusi> I've been using reiserfs lately though... seems a bit better than ext... I can't wait for reiser4 to get into the kernel
[09:06] <Kanye> aTypical, do you know where i can download it?
[09:06] <Seicherl> ompaul: it was no crash, i deleted then incidently
[09:06] <site> uhm,
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme,
[09:06] <Storkme> hi
[09:06] <site> dont know djstillman
[09:06] <aTypical> Kanye, it comes with gnome, I believe.
[09:06] <gnomefreak> psusi, i heard it was worse but ive never used it :)
[09:06] <Jowi> site: play /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[09:06] <spoonaman2> why cant i use universe in breezy?
[09:06] <Belboz99> psusi, is it easy to convert to Rieser FS?
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme, err. Did you try w/o that nonsense?
[09:06] <djstillman> site - pm me
[09:06] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, enable it first
[09:06] <ogra> Seicherl, but anyway, delete the journal and fix your fstab accordingly and you have ext2
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme, that was just that guy trying to fix a problem
[09:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell spoonaman2 about sources
[09:06] <polpak> Storkme, not the "standard" way to do things
[09:06] <ompaul> Seicherl, go get the coroners toolkit
[09:06] <psusi> Belboz99: yea... backup your data, format, and restore ;)
[09:06] <Storkme> polpak, i get that error when i do ./quake4
[09:06] <ogra> Seicherl, so its no prob to chage it post install
[09:06] <Seicherl> ogra: how would i do that
[09:06] <Kanye> how do we access it? i downloaded laptop wi-fi using automatix but i dont know here it installed
[09:07] <cAsTeL> hi all
[09:07] <site> does play Jowi
[09:07] <polpak> Storkme, ok, one sec
[09:07] <ompaul> Seicherl, I thought it was a crash
[09:07] <ogra> Seicherl, have a look at the tune2fs manpage
[09:07] <Storkme> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:07] <polpak> Storkme, what error?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> Kanye, dont use automatrix :((
[09:07] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, it *is* enabled. it was working till yesterday
[09:07] <ompaul> !automatix
[09:07] <ubotu> automatix is, like, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:07] <Seicherl> ompaul: just started google thx for that hint
[09:07] <Kanye> why is not good?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Kanye  about automatrix
[09:07] <Kanye> i already did should i delete it?
[09:07] <gnomefreak> damnit
[09:07] <pi9inE> polpak: why it's only icon named "hda1" at my desktop? how can I remove it? or why I can't explore it? I guess it's a Windows one
[09:07] <site> can u speak here djstillman
[09:07] <Seicherl> ogra: ok. thxs so far. so i can go on installing and do that afterwards?
[09:07] <psusi> Belboz99: or if you are crazy like me, you can shrink the ext partition down, format the free space for resier, copy files over, then blow away the ext partition and expand the reiserfs one into the space
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Kanye about automatrx
[09:08] <ogra> Seicherl, yup
[09:08] <site> Jowi, , the song does play.
[09:08] <HappyFool> maybe automatix ?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ompaul, ty but your not my type lol :)
[09:08] <Kindred> spoonaman2, have you tried sudo apt-get update
[09:08] <Seicherl> ogra: ok. thxs!
[09:08] <spoonaman2> Kindred, yes
[09:08] <gnomefreak> HappyFool, ty
[09:08] <Jowi> Stork: install sdl (apt-cache search --names-only sdl. that will give you some to choose from )
[09:08] <djstillman> site - too much to read too fast.
[09:08] <polpak> pi9inE, It's the windows drive. If you don't want it there you can instruct linux not to mount it on startup
[09:08] <Jowi> site: good. so it is set up ok
[09:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Kanye about automatix
[09:08] <spoonaman2> Kindred, it yeilds this ->Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[09:08] <pi9inE> polpak: ok I see
[09:08] <site> put in one line then djstillman
[09:08] <site> i can follow it
[09:08] <blue-frog> who has chkrootkit installed on breezy pls?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2,  use pastebin to paste
[09:08] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it was in the channel already I beat you to it :)
[09:09] <site> no
[09:09] <gnomefreak> ompaul,  lol ty
[09:09] <site> just join #site
[09:09] <polpak> pi9inE, to control what gets mounted you have to edit the fstab file. (/etc/fstab)
[09:09] <Storkme> Jowi, i've done that
[09:09] <pi9inE> polpak: but when I'm trying to open it, it says: You don't have authorization to check this folder.
[09:09] <ompaul> !tell blue-frog about chroot
[09:09] <ompaul> blue-frog, not something I need but there you go
[09:09] <polpak> pi9inE, that's probably because it's doesn't have the appropriate mount options to give all users access to the drive
[09:09] <psusi> chkrootkit?  the entire point of a root kit is that it can't be detected... unless you boot from removable media
[09:09] <polpak> pi9inE, to change the options you must also edit /etc/fstab
[09:10] <pi9inE> polpak: i see, lemme check
[09:10] <ompaul> psusi, is it not chroot?
[09:10] <blue-frog> ompaul, not asking about that
[09:10] <ompaul> ahh
[09:10] <polpak> pi9inE, is there a reason you want to access your windows drive?
[09:10] <ompaul> it is not
[09:10] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, are you a bot? one line is ot paste.
[09:10] <psusi> ompaul: a chroot and a rootkit have nothing to do with each other
[09:10] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, no but im warning you before they ban you
[09:10] <pi9inE> polpak: to drag some mp3 and movies if it's possible
[09:11] <polpak> pi9inE, ah. Ok, sure
[09:11] <ompaul> psusi, I read the start who has chkrootkit and leaft out the k
[09:11] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, being an op does not give you the right to be an arsehole
[09:11] <jcole> what's a good gtk2 app for managing startup services in debian/ubuntu? the one in gnome doesn't support/have all of my startup services...
[09:11] <pi9inE> polpak: i don't have /etc/fstab
[09:11] <pi9inE> uhm
[09:11] <Kanye> can somebody please show me the proper terminal command to download network manager for my wireless management
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul, do we allow pasting?
[09:11] <mitrovarr> can you run programs off a mounted fat partition normally?
[09:11] <ompaul> gnomefreak, no
[09:11] <polpak> pi9inE, I find that hard to believe
[09:11] <blue-frog> i'd like to know if others have false positive (well i think) about lkm with chkrootkit on breezy...
[09:11] <hippo> hi again. simple question now.... im running windows xp on a ntfs primary master c drive.... i have a secondary slave d: on fat32.... were i to try and install ubuntu to that drive will i tank anything? :-s
[09:11] <Storkme> polpak, Jowi, anything?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ompaul, tell spoonaman2 that
[09:11] <polpak> Storkme, what is the error you get?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> hes telling me im being a bad word lol
[09:11] <moodog> Evening all.
[09:11] <spoonaman2> ompaul, define pastig?
[09:11] <ompaul> spoonaman2, you will leave the channel rather rapidly if you do not use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:12] <Storkme> ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:12] <Jowi> Storkme: searching
[09:12] <polpak> !paste
[09:12] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[09:12] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[09:12] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:12] <mwe> Storkme: install libsdl1.2debian-all
[09:12] <pi9inE> polpak: only fonts and foomatic
[09:12] <spoonaman2> ompaul, iv been on IRC and #debian since the last 8 years.
[09:12] <Storkme> i did
[09:12] <ompaul> spoonaman2, any more than a line or two of output
[09:12] <Storkme> do that one
[09:12] <Sturgeon> "probably"?
[09:12] <polpak> Storkme, have you installed the SDL libs?
[09:12] <Storkme> yes
[09:12] <spoonaman2> ompaul, scroll up and see what I pasted two lines and then one.
[09:12] <Storkme> debian-all
[09:13] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2,  it shows as 4
[09:13] <psusi> one line paste != flood
[09:13] <Jowi> Storkme: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-101962.html
[09:14] <selinium> ping ajmitch....
[09:14] <spoonaman2> gnomefreak, get a larger monitor.
[09:14] <ompaul> spoonaman2, I am not looking for an arguement - friendly advice don't paste but you know that if you were in that other place and I did look at your pastebin
[09:14] <gnomefreak> spoonaman2, you cant read the topic and im the bad guy? fine keep pasting
[09:14] <ompaul> spoonaman2, I can't for the life of me think why that happens and I should know
[09:15] <ompaul> gnomefreak, leave it please you are labouring a point
[09:15] <spoonaman2> ompaul, I dont need to read the topic to know i shouldnt paste.
[09:15] <mwe> Storkme: did you read http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/?
[09:15] <spoonaman2> ompaul, but gnomefreak was just being a  jerk
[09:16] <ompaul> spoonaman2, can we get back "on topic" more to the point
[09:16] <mwe> Storkme: it suggests not installing the -all sdl package
[09:16] <spoonaman2> Kindred, gnomefreak I updated source.list with the link you gave ... I still get the same error.
[09:16] <ompaul> spoonaman2, lets all live on the same planet, now I am going to look at that pastebin again and then do some sniffing about I do have the answer
[09:16] <ompaul> just not to hand
[09:16] <mwe> Storkme: install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead it says
[09:16] <ompaul> as in the interweb has it
[09:16] <ompaul> :)
[09:17] <Seicherl> ompaul: If this tkt works on my recover problem, come to austia and the beer goes on me
[09:17] <Storkme> Jowi, i dont understand what that site is talking about :\
[09:17] <mwe> Storkme: did you read what I just said?
[09:17] <jjs> Ubuntu rulez! :-D
[09:17] <Storkme> orly?
[09:17] <mwe> Storkme: it suggests not installing the -all sdl package
[09:17] <mwe> Storkme: install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead it says
[09:18] <Storkme> i tried that mwe
[09:18] <cr4ck5h07> Hi I'm new I just installed ubuntu 5.10 and I just wondering how I can enter this command on gnome terminal sudo mkdir /media/windows ok it prompt me for a password but I cant type anything because it wont let me. I just want to have access to my microsoft windows xp  files (I'm dual booting)
[09:18] <polpak> Storkme, I like alsa better than oss myself
[09:18] <Jowi> Storkme: me neither, but that was all i could find
[09:18] <bimberi> cr4ck5h07: type your password - it won't echo in the terminal
[09:18] <mwe> oss is just emulated anyway when alsa is used on the system
[09:18] <polpak> cr4ck5h07, just type your password. It doesn't show anything because the password is masked (to keep ppl from reading over your shoulder)
[09:18] <blastmanu> hi
[09:18] <blastmanu> !op
[09:18] <ubotu> blastmanu: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:18] <rob_> I'm a newb with a dependency problem installing skype, any help
[09:19] <polpak> !skype
[09:19] <ubotu> well, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:19] <blastmanu> yes
[09:19] <rob_> thanks for the how to!
[09:19] <Seicherl> ompaul: i just installed tct (apt-get) but i can't find it. am i too stupid?
[09:19] <jcole> !services
[09:19] <ubotu> I guess services is to view and alter system services, use one or more of rcconf, sysvconfig, sysv-rc-conf, update-rc.d or ls, ln and rm in /etc/rc?.d/
[09:20] <gnomefreak> brb booting into dapper again
[09:20] <cr4ck5h07> TY I LOVE YOU
[09:20] <ompaul> spoonaman2, couple of ideas worth a try (A) change the http for ftp if it fails (B) for a short time try ie.archive I use it with ftp for all
[09:20] <polpak> cr4ck5h07, tp
[09:21] <polpak> cr4ck5h07, or np rather
[09:21] <bimberi> cr4ck5h07: gee it didn't take much :P
[09:21] <jjs> to install Skype easily, just use the Automatix Script. It will install many other progs aswell (dvd, mp3, acrobat....) : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=77
[09:21] <polpak> !automatix
[09:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:21] <jjs> :-(
[09:21] <[Neo_xx] > hey i want to change the nucleo of ubuntu if i do that i leave or remove the 386 nucleo?
[09:21] <ompaul> Seicherl, that is not an iq test that is a how do I use my box thing - not having a reason to use it I don't have it (yet) let me look
[09:22] <Seicherl> ompaul: ok, thx!
[09:22] <bimberi> [Neo_xx] : install and test the new _kernel_ first, then remove when you know it works
[09:22] <bimberi> *remove the old one
[09:22] <ompaul> spoonaman2, well?
[09:23] <Kyral> A Gentoo Dev
[09:23] <Kyral> wow
[09:23] <Storkme> god
[09:23] <Storkme> i'm so confused with this quake4 install
[09:24] <spoonaman2> ompaul, anyways when i stat the Package.gz on universe what I get is--->  gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[09:24] <spoonaman2> . so its definately some bug .I could wget the file ungzipped it and pasted it in /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages and I can now install multiverse packages. but if you guys behave like this I could never report this bug.
[09:24] <Seicherl> ompaul: i can't even use "dpkg-reconfigure tct"
[09:24] <Kyral> Seicherl: sudo it
[09:24] <Seicherl> Kyral: i'm running as root
[09:25] <Kyral> oh
[09:25] <Kyral> neeeverrrmind
[09:25] <Seicherl> what?
[09:25] <spoonaman2> ompaul, what i am saying is if I wget the Package.gz for universe and un-gzip it by hand and place it where it needs to be apt works . otherwise it exits with the "not gzip format error"
[09:25] <plotino> who can help me with evolution?
[09:26] <Kyral> plotino: depends on what it is
[09:26] <Seicherl> plotino: shall i tell you about birds and bees? or adam and eve?
[09:26] <Jowi> lol
[09:26] <Seicherl> plotino: sorry for that. I had to
[09:26] <[Neo_xx] > bimberi, i have installed the nucleo of 686
[09:26] <plotino> sorry, Evolution - Novell
[09:26] <[Neo_xx] > and its working
[09:26] <ompaul> spoonaman2, not had it as specific as that before - hmm
[09:26] <Seicherl> ompaul: erm... what's going on?
[09:27] <plotino> i have  3 accounts ..
[09:27] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : if you no longer have the use for the 386 kernel it can be removed, yes
[09:27] <gsuveg> re
[09:27] <ompaul> !tell Seicherl about root
[09:27] <xorion> can anyone tell me if I can use a .ppd file from gutenprint 5.0 with gimp-print 4.2 that ships with kubuntu 5.10?
[09:27] <plotino> and it not download emails anymore from one of these
[09:27] <gsuveg> can anyone give me skype.deb for ubuntu ?
[09:27] <Seicherl> ompaul: it's a problem i have on my debian machine. it just happend that i told it in here.
[09:27] <[Neo_xx] > ok jowi
[09:27] <ompaul> ahh
[09:27] <polpak> ubotu tell gsuveg about skype
[09:27] <spoonaman2> ompaul, wait i will paste the whole thing in pastebin
[09:27] <plotino> ?
[09:27] <bimberi> [Neo_xx] : ok, you can uninstall the old one then
[09:28] <ompaul> spoonaman2, go for it
[09:28] <xorion> or can anyone tell me what channel would be the best to ask in?
[09:28] <Jowi> plotino: see if you can ping that pop server that doesn't work.
[09:28] <gsuveg> polpak: thx
[09:28] <polpak> Storkme, what are you confused about?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> :)) thinking i found fix
[09:28] <plotino> i use freepops ...
[09:28] <Seicherl> ompaul: but do you know where it could hide? I can't find that damn tool!
[09:28] <plotino> pop is localhost:2000
[09:28] <ompaul> !tell gsuveg about skype
[09:28] <Seicherl> ompaul: can't even reconfigure with dpkg
[09:28] <ompaul> gsuveg, have a look at the message you got
[09:28] <gsuveg> polpak: i have installed, but i need install skype to my wife box
[09:28] <polpak> ompaul, way ahead of you ;p
[09:28] <ompaul> Seicherl, let me look I have not had meed of it
[09:29] <joachim-n> how do I check I have a package installed?
[09:29] <gsuveg> ompaul: thx
[09:29] <[Neo_xx] > but if i unistall the 386 makes a difference?? something works faster or something like that?
[09:29] <Jowi> plotino: oh, the account is on your own server? have you tried to restart it?
[09:29] <Kyral> joachim-n: apt-cache policy <package>
[09:29] <Seicherl> ompaul: thx
[09:29] <joachim-n> tx
[09:29] <Manifold> Guys.
[09:29] <gnomefreak> joachim-n, locate should also work
[09:29] <plotino> i'm trying ..
[09:29] <Manifold> Is there a transparent terminal anywherE?
[09:29] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : no difference. if you have a cpu that is made for the 686 kernel, then that will be faster.
[09:29] <Manifold> I used one once in Damn Small Linux
[09:30] <cmatheson> Manifold: aterm, eterm, gnome-terminal, etc, etc.
[09:30] <[Neo_xx] > its a intel celeron 1.7 gh jowi
[09:30] <polpak> Manifold, all of them have transparency options afaik
[09:30] <gnomefreak> Manifold, you can pretty much make most of the terms transparent
[09:30] <Storkme> polpak, i'm still getting the same error, i don't know what to do
[09:30] <Manifold> How do you make gnome-terminal transparent?
[09:30] <alvint> what is 'skype'?
[09:30] <polpak> gsuveg, the one ubotu said doesn't work?
[09:30] <Seicherl> whats the easiest way to change from gnome to kde after the standard installation?
[09:31] <ompaul> alvint, www.skype.com
[09:31] <Manifold> Seicherl, apt.
[09:31] <kremonte> ~skype
[09:31] <Jowi> !info linux-image-686
[09:31] <kremonte> !skype
[09:31] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[09:31] <ubotu> linux-image-686: (Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.), section base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.16.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[09:31] <alvint> thx
[09:31] <polpak> Manifold, Edit->Current Profile->Effects
[09:31] <Seicherl> Manifold: that easy?
[09:31] <bettong_BOFH> win
[09:31] <Manifold> Not sure.
[09:31] <gsuveg> polpak: yes. this is other method
[09:31] <Manifold> I'm only new to this myself.
[09:31] <Jowi> [Neo_xx] : as you can see, linux-image-686 is for your cpu. so it is ok to remove the 386 one.
[09:31] <sampan> seicherl: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  ... should do it :)
[09:31] <Manifold> But it should work.
[09:32] <gsuveg> polpak: to my box im build a spec. deb, what im deleted ;)
[09:32] <Seicherl> sampan: kubuntu or kde?
[09:32] <[Neo_xx] > thaks Jowi
[09:32] <polpak> Storkme, did you try to copy libasound.0 and libsdl1.2.0 to /usr/lib32
[09:32] <gsuveg> this alien look isnt bad
[09:32] <sampan> seicherl  kubuntu is "ubuntu using kde"
[09:32] <gsuveg> polpak: thansk
[09:32] <Seicherl> sampan: ok, thx!
[09:32] <mwe> you can get just kdebase if you don't need all the krap
[09:33] <ompaul> Seicherl, try timeout as the command
[09:33] <Storkme> polpak, where do i copy them from?
[09:34] <ompaul> Seicherl, apt-cache policy tct helped there
[09:34] <ompaul> Seicherl, assuming it is what you wanted
[09:34] <joachim-n> what does this output from gcc mean: "Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[09:34] <joachim-n> " ?
[09:34] <Seicherl> ompaul: I'll try. hold on
[09:34] <homenetzpua> hello every body from Ukraine
[09:34] <Storkme> my father is in the ukraine right now
[09:34] <Storkme> is it nice and snow
[09:34] <gnomefreak> joachim-n, did you install gcc along with gccx.x
[09:35] <mwe> joachim-n: what are you trying to do?
[09:35] <Seicherl> ompaul: I hat manpages
[09:35] <polpak> Storkme, I believe libSDL-1.2.so.0 should be in /usr/lib
[09:35] <Seicherl> ompaul: I hatE manpages
[09:35] <joachim-n> mwe, trying to compile a short script I was sent
[09:35] <Manifold> polpak, I can't seem to find the entry anywhere.
[09:35] <ompaul> Seicherl, it is not something I need :-)
[09:35] <Jowi> joachim-n: install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:35] <gnomefreak> joachim-n, install build-essential
[09:36] <homenetzpua> i have a question: iam a bigginer in linux- and want to install webdmin on ubuntu -it real or not?
[09:36] <mwe> joachim-n: compile a script? you can't compile a script. only source code can be compiled
[09:36] <Seicherl> ompaul: But timeout just seems to run a command after an elapsed amount of time.
[09:36] <joachim-n> why are there five thousand "gcc-foo" packages?
[09:36] <polpak> Storkme, oh wait
[09:36] <polpak> Storkme, ok, here's what will help you
[09:36] <gnomefreak> joachim-n, build-essential is a meta package for making and compiling programs
[09:37] <polpak> Storkme, http://skuld.bmsc.washington.edu/~yi/?p=6
[09:37] <ompaul> Seicherl, why did you think that the coroners toolkit was tct?
[09:37] <Jowi> joachim-n: the package build-essential will help you there. install that one and the libgtk2.0-dev.
[09:37] <djstillman>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[09:37] <joachim-n> ok thanks everyone :)
[09:37] <Seicherl> ompaul: cause that's what its called on that webpage i found
[09:37] <zenlunatic> when I move a window in my X it leaves a trail.  any way to stop this?
[09:38] <ompaul> Seicherl, sorry my mistake
[09:38] <Seicherl> ompaul: I don't get it. I got no single clue on how to use this timeout thing. it says nothing about recovery
[09:38] <homenetzpua> can anyone help with my question?
[09:39] <ompaul> Seicherl, forget timeout - it was a dep of the tct - have a look in /usr/share/tct
[09:39] <polpak> !find webmin
[09:39] <poningru> homenetzpua: what do you want to do?
[09:39] <poningru> what language do you speak?
[09:39] <CodenameKT> !info gmailfs
[09:39] <Seicherl> ompaul: ok, that looks better. i'll go reading for a while
[09:39] <kremonte> there is a package for webmin
[09:39] <ubotu> gmailfs: (Use your GMail account as a filesystem), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 0.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[09:39] <ompaul> Seicherl, also /etc/tct/ and /var/cache/tct/
[09:39] <Juski> hi guys & gals...
[09:39] <homenetzpua> how to install webmin on ubuntu
[09:40] <ompaul> spoonaman2, whats happening
[09:40] <Storkme> polpak, lol how do i add something to the ld.so.conf ?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> ok what am i missing here? apt-get --force-upgrade isnt working
[09:40] <homenetzpua> !find webmin
[09:40] <Jowi> homenetzpua: search for webmin in synaptic and you will find it and a whole lot of modules for it.
[09:40] <polpak> Storkme, sudo gedit /etc/ld.so.conf
[09:40] <Juski> I've got an ubuntu box working & am impressed so far, but I'm having issues getting mythtv working with xvmc.. I can't find any documentation about configuring xvmc on ubuntu..  can anyone offer any tips or links?
[09:41] <Jowi> !info webmin
[09:41] <ubotu> webmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.230-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1154 kB, Installed size: 6368 kB
[09:41] <polpak> Storkme, did you download and install the packages and the ia32-libs package
[09:41] <djstillman> exit
[09:41] <ompaul> spoonaman2, I see your pastebin
[09:41] <jigar657> !info webmin
[09:41] <homenetzpua> ok thanks - i try it..
[09:42] <sampan> "i see your pastebin, and raise you a wiki!"
[09:42] <zenlunatic> when I move a window in my X it leaves a trail.  any way to stop this?
[09:42] <jigar657> exit
[09:43] <Seicherl> ompaul: man, can't they put a manpage or doc somewhere?
[09:44] <Jowi> zenlunatic: if you have the correct video driver already set up, don't think so. mine does that as well under gnome, but is ok in other lighter wms
[09:44] <Storkme> polpak, the 2nd link is broken and i can't find anything on google for it
[09:44] <ompaul> Seicherl, are there docs on their site
[09:44] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, man <whatever> is not working?
[09:44] <Seicherl> ompaul: Oh, well i could have thought bout that myself
[09:44] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: guess what i tried first ;)
[09:45] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: yes, not working
[09:45] <gnomefreak> lol Seicherl  i had to im sorry
[09:45] <zenlunatic> Jowi, okay
[09:45] <gnomefreak> man tct doesnt work?
[09:45] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: yes, not working
[09:46] <gnomefreak> Seicherl,  give me 2 secs
[09:46] <ompaul> gnomefreak, not in offtopic?
[09:46] <Storkme> any ideas polpak ?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> ompaul, tct is a program for ubuntu why off topic?
[09:47] <zenlunatic> Jowi, how do i change my window manager?
[09:47] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: I give you 2 days if you can helpo me in recovering my files
[09:47] <Jowi> zenlunatic: ...and usually only leaves a trail on top of firefox and some other apps.
[09:47] <ompaul> gnomefreak, a joke - too late :)
[09:47] <gnomefreak> oh sorry
[09:47] <Seicherl> ompaul: lol+
[09:47] <rob^^^> does anyone know how to pipe input to a https connection?
[09:47] <pozdiy> starting application fom the terminal under Gnome get "failed to open display " - what to do?
[09:48] <Jowi> zenlunatic: there are many to choose from. xfce4, window-maker, ice-wm etc
[09:48] <zenlunatic> Jowi, which one do you recommend?
[09:48] <rob^^^> i'm trying to create a little go-between script for debugging a script
[09:48] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, what did you need to know about it?
[09:48] <chronos> hi
[09:48] <Juski> can anyone offer any tips on how to get xvmc working with nvidia drivers?
[09:49] <CarlFK> are any ogg encoders better./worse than others?
[09:49] <gsuveg> ot: maybe anyone from belgium ?
[09:49] <Jowi> zenlunatic: well, i'm not the person to ask that question. i don't run any standard things. I use Oroborus as a windowmanager, fbpanel as a taskbar and slim for loginmanager. But that is abit drastic. try xfce4, many like it.
[09:49] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: If it can help me in recovering from ext3 and how to use it
[09:49] <CarlFK> like mencoder vs transcode
[09:49] <john__> is ubuntu a good beginner linux?
[09:49] <chronos> how do I make my grub like the grub of livecd with menus to resolution, language, etc???
[09:50] <gsuveg> john__: yes
[09:50] <Kindred> john_, sure
[09:50] <CarlFK> john__: yes
[09:50] <chronos> exists a How-To to make this?
[09:50] <john__> thx :) i hoped so
[09:50] <zenlunatic> Jowi, but you don't think its a wrong setting somewhere?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> Seicherl,  did you try this? http://www.fish2.com/tct/help-recovering-file
[09:50] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: try not to stand on my feet, i'm actually there
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, if that helps let me know
[09:51] <Storkme> i give up
[09:51] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: sure.
[09:51] <MagicFab> Hello
[09:51] <Storkme> i guess it's just not possible to game on ubuntu :|
[09:51] <MagicFab> Wondering if anyone's using this LCD with U.:
[09:51] <MagicFab> http://www.gateway.com/programs/lcd/?cmpid=index*home*technology*21lcd*programs/lcd/index~~shtml
[09:51] <Jowi> zenlunatic: what kind of system do you have? I have a low-end one (1GHz, 512MB RAM, 32MB shared built in graphics) and gnome is too heavy for it.
[09:52] <chronos> I use version 0.96, grub of ubuntu live cd is more then?
[09:52] <gnomefreak> grub? live-cd?
[09:52] <chronos> yeah
[09:52] <everett_> What's a good screenshot program? :)
[09:52] <CarlFK> I have a friend running stock Ubunto on a P2-333, 256mb ram. - its "fine"
[09:52] <zenlunatic> Jowi, 600mhz 384 ram 8mb video ram
[09:52] <chronos> "how do I make my grub like the grub of livecd with menus to resolution, language, etc???"
[09:52] <gnomefreak> those 2 word dont go well together
[09:52] <CarlFK> everett_: the screenshot menu option
[09:52] <zenlunatic> Jowi, powerpc though
[09:52] <Jowi> zenlunatic: i really like window-maker it is fast but it is a bit dated.
[09:53] <gnomefreak> how is it does the live cd have grub if its not installable?
[09:53] <gsuveg> everett_: gimp :D
[09:53] <zenlunatic> Jowi, okay i installed some stuff im going to try it now
[09:53] <Storkme> i run ubuntu server on a pc with 128mb ram, it's fine
[09:53] <gsuveg> everett_: like th windex. do you know whats that ?
[09:53] <MagicFab> CarlFK: which WM ?
[09:53] <CarlFK> MagicFab: grub
[09:53] <CarlFK> er
[09:53] <MagicFab> (window manager)
[09:53] <CarlFK> MagicFab: gnome
[09:53] <CarlFK> lol
[09:53] <chronos> gnomefreak: I use gentoo and come to make my grub like of grub of ubuntu live cd
[09:53] <chronos> and I speak bad english :)
[09:53] <CarlFK> yeah - I use grub as my wind manager - very light weight ;)
[09:54] <ilba7r> anyone know how to configure cups so that the printer would print to a file instead of a regular printer device?
[09:54] <Jowi> CarlFK: yeah, installed ubuntu on a p1 166 with 128MB the other day and it's fine as well (running ice-wm)
[09:54] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:54] <Storkme> i guess it's just not possible to game on ubuntu :|
[09:54] <Storkme> i'll quit and become a windows n00b like the rest of them
[09:54] <ilba7r> i have pdf printer and just need to direct the output to a file
[09:55] <everett_> eh
[09:55] <ilba7r> gnomefreak the breezy live cd has grub on it
[09:55] <Kindred> Storkme you didn't get Q4 working?..
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ilba7r, mine doesnt
[09:55] <Storkme> nope
[09:55] <Storkme> it's impossible, i sweat
[09:55] <Storkme> swear* even
[09:55] <ilba7r> gnomefreak,  that is strange
[09:55] <gnomefreak> ilba7r, it allows you to change your already installed grub but it doesnt have grub on it
[09:55] <Jowi> CarlFK, Storkme: but I had to replace some apps for the p166 machine though. openoffice out, abiword in. nautilus out, rox-filer in. xmms instead of rhythmbox etc
[09:56] <polpak> Stork, it's not impossible. It's just harder because you are using 64 bit arch
[09:56] <ilba7r> gnomefreak, i did grub-install with it here.
[09:56] <polpak> Storkme, it's not impossible. It's just harder because you are using 64 bit arch
[09:56] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[09:56] <polpak> Storkme, one sec and I'll see if I can find a replacement for the pkg
[09:56] <MaxEmtSti> hello
[09:56] <zenlunatic> Jowi, xfce works nice
[09:57] <everett_> Where is the gnome screenshot located at? :/
[09:57] <Jowi> Storkme: took bloody forever installing the base server install on that machine, lol
[09:57] <gnomefreak> everett_, to take one?
[09:57] <CarlFK> yeah - I tried the same P2-333 box with 96mb - that sucked.  128 was fine, 256 was just a little better.  (stock = install from the CD and go - no tweeking things )
[09:57] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: well great! unrm doesn't know ext3fs
[09:57] <Jowi> zenlunatic: cool. xfce is nice
[09:57] <antisocial_boris> i've just got an external hard drive, could anyone answer some questions for me about (re)partitioning?
[09:57] <chronos> er...grub...
[09:57] <everett_> yeah gnomefreak
[09:57] <gnomefreak> everett_, to take a screenshot in gnome go to places>screenshot
[09:57] <zenlunatic> Jowi, only thing is sometimes when i move the window it leaves visual artifacts and the text "bleeds". is this normal for X?
[09:58] <Belboz99> Hey, what's a good app to capture video off a digital camcorder?
[09:58] <Storkme> polpak, i'll partition and install normal ubuntu then
[09:58] <polpak> Storkme, here's a more detailed howto
[09:58] <digij> Wondering if ayone running a radeon 9800 pro had some tips for me to get 3d rendering going?
[09:58] <everett_> gnomefreak, there is no screenshot option located in places.
[09:58] <polpak> Storkme, http://fatooh.org/q4howto/
[09:58] <Jowi> zenlunatic: it may leave trails *while* you move windows, but that should dissappear once you stop moving it
[09:58] <polpak> Storkme, it specifically addresses issues with the 64 bit setup
[09:58] <gnomefreak> everett_, sorry its system >screenshot
[09:59] <polpak> Storkme, and has a couple of different options for setting it up
[09:59] <everett_> thanks. ;)
[09:59] <Storkme> polpak, i'll try that
[09:59] <Jowi> zenlunatic: i don't know if it is normal behaviour for X but I experience it as well sometimes
[09:59] <gorski> i have TV card, can i watch TV on ubuntu?
[09:59] <zenlunatic> Jowi, yeah thats nasty though i want it to stop
[09:59] <chronos> humm....good bye :)
[10:00] <gnomefreak> Gorski yeah for the most part if you can get it working :)
[10:00] <polpak> Storkme, oh, wait
[10:00] <polpak> Storkme, lol
[10:00] <gnomefreak> <<never tried i have tvs for that purpose
[10:00] <polpak> Storkme, it's basically saying the same thing as the other page
[10:00] <Jowi> zenlunatic: i agree
[10:00] <polpak> Storkme, just has options for building the packages yourself (which you probably don't want to do)
[10:00] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: lets see if unrm can handle an ext3
[10:01] <gorski> i have a leadtek Winfast, can i get it right somehow?
[10:01] <polpak> Storkme, I just need to find you an i386 deb for libasound
[10:01] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, even if it was writen for ext2 it should still work i would think
[10:01] <zenlunatic> Jowi, lets complain to somebody
[10:01] <CodenameKT> gorski: setup is possibly painful if u are looking for a plug and play way knoppix has a distro strictly for running mythtv application
[10:01] <Jowi> zenlunatic: try x.org :)
[10:01] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: thats what i thought about all recovery tools if ever tried
[10:01] <gnomefreak> !mythtv
[10:01] <ubotu> mythtv is, like, totally, for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[10:02] <Storkme> polpak, thanks so much for the help
[10:02] <Belboz99> anyone know a good application for digital video capturing off a digital camcorder?
[10:03] <Seicherl> another thing: when i finised installing kubuntu. will it start automatically next time and can i then uninstall gnome?
[10:03] <DJLILYAZI> i need help installing linux it keeps freeeeeeeeezing after detecting hardware
[10:03] <albacker> when installing something from a bin file how to uninstall it ?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, i have nothing but programs on my pc wether from ubuntu or if i wrote them so its nothing for me to back them up if im waiting for issues like i am now :)
[10:03] <gnomefreak> albacker, did you sudo apt-get install it?
[10:03] <albacker> gnomefreak, no
[10:03] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: the thing is, that was my backup i deleted
[10:03] <Jowi> albacker: check the README or INSTALL file for that application
[10:03] <albacker> i wget-ed the .bin and that run it
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, good luck
[10:04] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: thx
[10:04] <gnomefreak> lol yw your gonna need it
[10:04] <gnomefreak> not sure how to un-weget
[10:04] <gnomefreak> wget
[10:04] <gnomefreak> too many es
[10:04] <albacker> and i cant remove it ?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> yes you can
[10:05] <albacker> how tha n?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> read wget --help it should tell you :)
[10:05] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: i now, this will hurt you, but when i installed kubunu, how can i get rid of gnome and use kde?
[10:05] <Jowi> albacker: try to run the .bin with --help
[10:05] <Belboz99> hey, what's everyone's opinion on Kino?
[10:05] <homenetzpua> !info webmin
[10:05] <ubotu> webmin: (web-based administration toolkit), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.230-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1154 kB, Installed size: 6368 kB
[10:05] <DJLILYAZI> i reall need help installing please !!! anyone ?
[10:06] <Storkme> polpak, anything?
[10:06] <Storkme> what linux audio player is good and simple?
[10:06] <Jowi> DJLILYAZI: ask a specific question and chances are you might get a reply
[10:06] <gnomefreak> by the looks of it wget runs the program not installs it cause it doesnt give a way to uninstall it
[10:06] <stark-johan> I installed pure-ftpd-mysql using synaptic but I can niether find out how to start it nor find the configuration files (I want to use a php-mysql-script to manage pure-ftpd)
[10:06] <Chris_Tucker> my ati card wont tv-out sync right after hitting GDM when using driver "ati" .. works fine with "vesa" (note only using one "device" block for vid card...) :/ im hopeing the new ATi Drivers and control center will help me..
[10:07] <Jinkguns> http://www.deranged.net/~jetman877/Screenshot.png | http://www.deranged.net/~jetman877/Screenshot2.png | Just wanted to thank everyone for their hard work helping me with my problems. Look at what you helped me accomplish. ;)
[10:07] <Chris_Tucker> but im on dialup so thats 3 hrs away :(
[10:07] <DannY_W> hello
[10:07] <xtant> hello people
[10:07] <xtant> I need some help with java
[10:07] <gnomefreak> !wget
[10:07] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you smoking crack?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> yes ubotu i am ty
[10:08] <Seicherl> LOL
[10:08] <psusi> Chris_Tucker: I believe you have to set up another display section in your xorg.conf, the hardware treats the tv out as a second monitor
[10:08] <xtant> how do I install java on breezy?
[10:08] <ompaul> !tell xtant about java
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell xtant about java
[10:08] <ph8> Hey guys, i've just plugged in my mp3 player and it didn't mount automagicall
[10:08] <DannY_W> Anyone help me with network interfaces. They work fine when I stop and start them, but don't come up on boot properly..
[10:08] <luigi> hello people
[10:08] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:08] <ompaul> xtant read the messagr from the bot
[10:08] <ph8> * automagically, how can i mount it myself?
[10:08] <pureone>  /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:08] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[10:08] <ph8> DannY_W: Do you know about /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:08] <crazy2k> Well, I don't know what else to do to fix my system. I've tried, "apt-get dist-upgrade"; it gave errors so I tried "apt-get dist-upgrade --fix-missing" which also gave errors. What should I do to fix everything once for all?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> wget doesnt have an uninstall command :(
[10:09] <xtant> thanks!
[10:09] <pureone> man 5 interfaces
[10:09] <Seicherl> ok, just installed kubuntu. how do i get rid of gnome now?
[10:09] <DJLILYAZI> anyone help me with installing ubuntu ?
[10:09] <DannY_W> not really...
[10:09] <psusi> ph8: it may not be the kind that can be mounted... see if you can find it in the device manager
[10:09] <pureone> gnomefreak, no shit :)
[10:09] <pureone> its a program for downloading things
[10:09] <gnomefreak> pureone, lol
[10:09] <ph8> psusi: lsusb shows it as a 'creative mp3 player', which it is
[10:09] <ph8> device manager's really bad on mine cos i'm on a widescreen laptop, it cocks up all ubuntu's fonts
[10:09] <Seicherl> DJLILYAZI: go on and ask your question.
[10:09] <psusi> gnomefreak: wget = web get... downloads things from the web
[10:09] <gnomefreak> thats what i thought at first but i got to lookijng through wget --help and it says alot of crap nothing about uninstall :))
[10:10] <DJLILYAZI> Seicherl, ok ...
[10:10] <ph8> it shows up in device manager psusi but it's device: unknown
[10:10] <psusi> ph8: does it have a block device?  like /dev/sda?
[10:10] <ph8> well device type unknown
[10:10] <gnomefreak> the other guy needs to know that
[10:10] <DJLILYAZI> Seicherl, so i am trying to install linux and it freezes after hardware detectiong
[10:10] <Chris_Tucker> psusi, thing is, with vesa, both damnsmall and ubuntu output to both devices (as clone) fine.. just using the "ati" driver built in to breezy, the tv still displays the same output as the monitor.. but its out of sync (diagonal and really jumpy)
[10:10] <ph8> all i know is /proc/bus/usb/004
[10:10] <psusi> ph8: then it can't be mounted
[10:10] <Seicherl> DJLILYAZI: don't ask me, i'm a nooby to ubuntu myself. but don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:10] <Jowi> ph8: "sudo insmod usb-storage"
[10:10] <ph8> i can't find any mount point
[10:10] <gnomefreak> the one that used wget to install and run a program :((
[10:10] <pureone> apt-get ?
[10:11] <ph8> you mean apt-get jowi?
[10:11] <Jowi> ph8: no. not apt-get. then you should add the usb device to /etc/fstab
[10:11] <DJLILYAZI> Seicherl, im doing that 500 times already ...kool whatever
[10:11] <Jowi> ph8: usb-storage is a kernel module
[10:11] <ph8> insmod says it can't find usb-storage
[10:11] <DannY_W> had a look in /etc/network/interfaces... looks ok to me...
[10:11] <psusi> Chris_Tucker: probably because you have the monitor running in a higher resolution or refresh rate than it uses in vesa mode, and it's trying to pump out the same signal to the tv, which can't handle it
[10:11] <ph8> insmod: can't read 'usb-storage': No such file or directory
[10:11] <ph8> DannY_W: Any errors messages?
[10:12] <ph8> * error
[10:12] <Jowi> ph8: hmmm. "sudo modprobe usbcore"?
[10:12] <pureone> DannY_W, what does it say?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> that is a loaded question
[10:12] <ph8> returns nothing jowi
[10:12] <Seicherl> DJLILYAZI: asking? no, not until now. you only asked if you can ask ;) anyway mate, i'm sorry for you, but i can't help. What kind of system is it? desktop, laptop?
[10:12] <Jowi> ph8: nothing = success
[10:12] <DJLILYAZI> did anyone have a hard time installing my machine keeps freezing during install
[10:12] <ph8> yup
[10:12] <Jowi> ph8: "sudo modprobe usb-storage"
[10:12] <ph8> same again, success
[10:12] <Jinkguns> Now how can I get that S-Video out on my video card (nvidia) to play nice with my tv. :/
[10:12] <gorthaug> hi
[10:13] <gorthaug> how i can reconfigure the mimetypes?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> DJLILYAZI, what kind of pc what version of ubuntu and how did you obtain the copy of ubuntu?
[10:13] <Jowi> ph8: good. now the mp3 should use usb-storage automaticly
[10:13] <DannY_W> no... the boot goes ok, except for being unable to sync with an ntp server...   The network monitor icon in gnome panel shows network is down. When I configure it, it already says it is activated.. if i deactive and then activate it works fine... i never see any error messages.
[10:13] <Chris_Tucker> psusi, i thought the same at first.. but its running 800x600 @60hz.. tried 640x480 too, still out of sync.. yet with vesa the tv works up to (only tested "up to") 1024x768 (which suprised me)
[10:13] <ph8> gorthaug: /etc/mime.types
[10:14] <Jowi> ph8: you should be able to mount it now. for example "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/my-usb-dir"
[10:14] <ph8> the usb device will show up as sda something? i thought that was hard drives
[10:14] <Belboz99> Hey, how do I get 1394 running?   raw1394 kernel module not loaded
[10:14] <Chris_Tucker> psusi, so seems to me as the newest ati drivers are my only salvation :/ no way im sticking with vesa.. tooooooooo slow.. especially with the box being 500mhz
[10:14] <Belboz99> I just installed the modules, do I need to reboot?
[10:14] <ph8> how do i know which one it is?
[10:14] <psusi> ph8: sda = scsi hard disk ( basically all non ide disks are considered scsi by the kernel )
[10:14] <ph8> I see
[10:14] <Jowi> ph8: maybe, dmesg will give you the answer
[10:15] <gnomefreak> Belboz99, not normally but it never hurts
[10:15] <existance> how do i change the resolution of the login screen?
[10:15] <polpak> Storkme, sorry, I'm at work.. Had a call
[10:15] <gnomefreak> existance, i never did find a way other than to change the screen
[10:15] <Storkme> polpak, no problem
[10:15] <existance> gnomefreak, by screen you mean?
[10:15] <Chris_Tucker> psusi, oh yea forgot to mention, doubt it matters though, the system even runs in clone mode at the BIOS POST
[10:16] <gnomefreak> existance, by screen i mean just that change the image on the log-in screen
[10:16] <existance> gnomefreak, and where might that be stored?
[10:16] <Jowi> ph8: to load the usbcore and usb-storage automaticly, add them to /etc/modules (put usbcore first and usb-storage after it at the end of the file)
[10:16] <psusi> Chris_Tucker: which is why it continues to work with vesa... but the ati driver is screwing something up...
[10:16] <gnomefreak> existance, look in repos for something called gnome-art there you shall find what you want :)) oh yeah install it :))
[10:17] <StyXman> hi all
[10:17] <psusi> Jowi: they should be loaded automatically... something is fscked up if they don't
[10:17] <existance> gnomefreak, mm, ill try it, thanks
[10:17] <StyXman> is there any rss feed with the ubuntu security notices?
[10:17] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: you remember the recovering-issue? well... unrm has already fetched 1.7 GB and is still running... OMG!
[10:17] <gnomefreak> existance, anytime
[10:17] <StyXman> went to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/ and found none
[10:17] <Storkme> polpak, i've made progress
[10:17] <Chris_Tucker> psusi, exactly, tis why i expect the newest version to help.. but 3 hrs of downloading to go...
[10:17] <site> is there a possibillity to to have a better driver then those from vmware?
[10:17] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, be carefull this time with the delete buttons would ya lol
[10:17] <site> for videocard?
[10:17] <Chris_Tucker> psusi, i'll be right back
[10:17] <site> anyohne knows?
[10:17] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: sure
[10:18] <Jowi> psusi: agreed, may be the kernel that loads some motherboard drivers in the wrong order
[10:18] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: going to remove the rm and change it to a "move to temp"
[10:18] <StyXman> Seicherl: there are several projects doing that
[10:18] <gnomefreak> one day im gonna learn how to copy a file to floppy :))
[10:18] <Storkme> polpak, new error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=627561&posted=1#post627561
[10:19] <Seicherl> ok, just installed kubuntu, told it to be the main-manager and gnome is still after booting.
[10:19] <dfgas> how do i configure X?
[10:19] <harleyg> heyheyhey
[10:19] <JHiFa> hi everyone
[10:19] <dfgas> its never been used
[10:19] <Jowi> dfgas: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:19] <gnomefreak> yeah what he said
[10:19] <Seicherl> although i logged in via kubuntu-screen.
[10:19] <ph8> Jowi: [4318106.103000]  usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 <-- that's all dmesg says
[10:20] <StyXman> dfgas: or: aptitude install read-edid xorg
[10:20] <harleyg> i wanna get down on my knees and start pleasin jesus
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, did you choose to log into kde?
[10:20] <harleyg> i wanna feel his salvation all ova my face!
[10:20] <JHiFa> got a problem with gnutella
[10:20] <JHiFa> it says that seems i'm firewalled
[10:20] <StyXman> read-edid will be available only if you have a debline pointing to the universe component
[10:20] <mad_phoenix> anybody in here run apache2 on ubuntu/
[10:20] <DannY_W> should 'auto' go before 'iface' in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, log-in screen click sessions and pick kde
[10:20] <JHiFa> anyone can help me?
[10:20] <pureone> JHiFa, didnt gnutella die off with the other p2p networks?
[10:20] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: ok, i'll try
[10:21] <Jowi> ph8: "sudo modprobe sr_mod"
[10:21] <JHiFa> pureone, yeah think
[10:21] <varsendagger> hey i ahve a usb joystick and i want to know how to make it work any
[10:21] <polpak> Storkme, so it can't find the default config?
[10:21] <varsendagger> ideas?
[10:21] <ph8> yup that's there jowi
[10:21] <pureone> JHiFa, use limewire for all your p2p needs :)
[10:21] <Storkme> polpak, i guess
[10:21] <StyXman> mad_phoenix: here
[10:21] <gnomefreak> mp god no not limewire
[10:21] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: oh, didn't think that that hides behind the session-type icon. now i found it. thx!
[10:21] <gnomefreak> mp/no
[10:21] <JHiFa> pureone, why?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, yw
[10:22] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[10:22] <harleyg> IT KICKASS THATS WHY
[10:22] <ubotu> limewire is probably first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[10:22] <polpak> Storkme, are you supposed to run it as sudo?
[10:22] <pureone> JHiFA because most of the others are dead
[10:22] <polpak> Storkme, I don't think you should
[10:22] <mad_phoenix> StyXman: well...i had apache working with libapache2_mod_php4,  but when i installed libapache2_mod_php5, all of a sudden my browser wants to download every php file i try to load
[10:22] <gnomefreak> have fun its a pita to set up ive heard
[10:22] <pureone> polpak your ment to run it as root
[10:22] <pureone> which sudo does
[10:22] <polpak> pureone, eww
[10:22] <JHiFa> pureone, but with gentoo
[10:22] <JHiFa> in the same pc
[10:22] <StyXman> mad_phoenix: hmm
[10:22] <JHiFa> yesterday works well
[10:22] <JHiFa> !
[10:22] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, JHiFa
[10:22] <JHiFa> :-?
[10:22] <Storkme> polpak, that was just a random guess, i tried it with and without
[10:22] <Jowi> ph8: dmesg should have said also: usb-storage: device found at 2 or something as well as where it is located (sda: sda1)
[10:23] <pureone> polpak wtf is wrong with that? your messing with the kernel which should NEVER be able to be done as a normal user
[10:23] <ilba7r> i want to know what is if it exist the device name for creating new file. Instead of forwarding the print command to a dev i want to forward it to create a file?
[10:23] <StyXman> mad_phoenix: check if there is a php5-something file in /etc/apache2/mods-available/
[10:23] <mad_phoenix> ok
[10:23] <Jowi> ph8: try to reconnect the mp3 maybe
[10:23] <polpak> pureone, to play quake4 you need to mess with the kernel?
[10:23] <StyXman> mad_phoenix: and comapre oit to the php4 version
[10:23] <ph8> trying
[10:23] <pureone> wouldnt suprize me :)
[10:23] <StyXman> mad_phoenix: I don't have either here :-|
[10:23] <harleyg> no
[10:23] <harleyg> you dont
[10:23] <JHiFa> pureone, you think with limewire goes well?
[10:23] <harleyg> !google quake4 linux
[10:23] <ubotu> harleyg: What?
[10:23] <sportmankid> [Google]  #1 Quake4FrontPage - Quake 4 GNU/Linux FAQ ( http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ )
[10:24] <sportmankid> [Google]  Desc: 8d5c51ea773b81e5a0efebed712198c2 quake4-linux-1.0.6.x86.run ... 98ebbb835cc71ea29062cd2b4a139a46 quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run. old news ...
[10:24] <ph8> [4318351.687000]  usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 3
[10:24] <ph8> [4318374.603000]  usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[10:24] <ph8> that's it
[10:24] <mad_phoenix> StyXman: i have both php4.conf and php5.conf
[10:24] <Jowi> ph8: which kernel are you using?
[10:24] <harleyg> who likes mr hanky
[10:24] <ph8> 2.6.12-9
[10:24] <polpak> Storkme, anyway..... try running  find ~ -name default.cfg
[10:24] <varsendagger> !joystick
[10:24] <ubotu> varsendagger: Wish i knew
[10:24] <Jowi> ph8: strange behaviour.
[10:24] <pureone> polpak, think i got mixed up with something else :)
[10:24] <`123> is there any alternative for gamin? i cannot unmount a drive due to gam_server and whenever i try and kill it it immediately starts back up.
[10:25] <pureone> my bad
[10:25] <AtomicB_> does anyone here have any experince with nvidia twinview?
[10:25] <polpak> pureone, I'm trying to help Storkme with running quake 4 using a 64 bit arch =p
[10:25] <ph8> indeed, it works with my memory stick
[10:25] <StyXman> mad_phoenix: read both and find major differences, it's all I can advise
[10:25] <pureone> ok
[10:25] <ph8> but this is a fairly old creative jukebox II
[10:25] <DannY_W> which file is ubuntu's equivalent of MSDOS 'autoexec.bat' ?
[10:25] <harleyg> quake 4 doesnt support x64
[10:25] <StyXman> I have php4 here
[10:25] <harleyg> x86...
[10:25] <ph8> so i'm thinking it doesn't recognise it's a drive?
[10:25] <Jowi> ph8: is it listed in /proc/bus/usb/devices ?
[10:25] <ph8> same as lsusb? yes if so
[10:25] <Storkme> ok polpak
[10:25] <Seicherl> when i use aptitude purge gnome it tells me that 0 packages are removed... how come?
[10:25] <gnomefreak> btw anyone fix the dapper update bug?
[10:25] <pureone> DannyY_W ~/.bashrc i would belive
[10:26] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, gnome isnt a package last i checked
[10:26] <ph8> it's also in /devices
[10:26] <Storkme> polpak, no luck. nothing turns up
[10:26] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: ok, so how would i uninstall it?
[10:26] <AtomicB_> does anyone here have any experince with nvidia twinview - specifically the xorg.conf settings.. I can make one screen or the other work, not both! :(
[10:26] <JHiFa> pureone, ok thanks. tried but seems limewire isn't in the repository
[10:26] <Jowi> ph8: /proc/bus/usb/devices should give you Driver=something. what does it say there?
[10:26] <StyXman> meister_: also: dou you really need php5?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-desktop?
[10:26] <JHiFa> pureone, i've to compile myself?
[10:26] <DannY_W> looking for the file that controls the boot process, so i can remove some problems...
[10:26] <StyXman> meister_: sorry, wrong nick
[10:26] <pureone> JHiFa no
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Seicherl,  why not just leave it and just not use it
[10:27] <ph8> (none)
[10:27] <pureone> just download it and run RunLime.sh
[10:27] <gnomefreak> its easier
[10:27] <pureone> also check your firewall setup
[10:27] <pureone> for gnutella
[10:27] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: couldnt find package gnome-desktop
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Seicherl,  we already saw what happens when you go deleteing things:((
[10:27] <Seicherl> LOL
[10:27] <JHiFa> pureone, ok manu thanks!
[10:27] <JHiFa> *many
[10:27] <JHiFa> sorry
[10:28] <JHiFa> ;)
[10:28] <pureone> :)
[10:28] <Jowi> ph8: so you need to find another driver for it. strangely, usb-storage does not seem to support it. i would recommend you google for a driver to use... :-/
[10:28] <gnomefreak> it might be part of the ubuntu-desktop than
[10:28] <jahshua--> is bittorrent better than limewire ?
[10:28] <pureone> yes in some ways
[10:28] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: so you got a clue how to get rid of it?
[10:28] <pureone> its ALOT faster
[10:28] <pureone> but lacks being a real p2p network
[10:28] <jahshua--> is bittornado better than bittorrent ?
[10:28] <ph8> root@serenity:/proc/bus/usb# apt-cache search nomad
[10:28] <ph8> gnomad2 - Manage a Creative Labs Nomad Jukebox
[10:28] <ph8> I just did
[10:28] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, yes i always do :))
[10:28] <ph8> I should have done that in the first place, thanks
[10:28] <JoeBlow> can I read and write to a fat32 partition in ubuntu?
[10:28] <Gobbla> jahshua--: go with azureus
[10:28] <Storkme> jahshua--, same protocol, different client
[10:28] <Jowi> ph8: lol, okaaaaay
[10:29] <pureone> bittornado can do some better stuff
[10:29] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: by the way: just got more that 3 gigs of recovery... still working
[10:29] <StyXman> azureus
[10:29] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: so tell me
[10:29] <pureone> bittorrent is a basic client
[10:29] <pureone> its the most stable as well
[10:29] <gnomefreak> open synaptic and find gnome2 and click it and than click completly remove :))
[10:29] <Kindred> Storkme, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79887 - looks like you just need to change some permissions?..
[10:29] <pureone> i like btdownloadcurses my self
[10:29] <jahshua--> so azureus is the best?
[10:29] <StyXman> jahshua--: but be warned: it eats *lots* of ram
[10:29] <JoeBlow> can I read and write to a fat32 partition in ubuntu?
[10:29] <jahshua--> ok
[10:29] <Gobbla> jahshua--: imo yes
[10:29] <polpak> Storkme, ok, well the problem is you're supposed to have a default.cfg file apparently
[10:29] <gnomefreak> !fat32
[10:29] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[10:29] <StyXman> jahshua--: 5672 mdione    15   0  352m  71m  22m S 81.7  8.1   1:27.52 java
[10:29] <polpak> Storkme, and it can't find it
[10:29] <Jowi> JoeBlow: yes
[10:30] <jahshua--> Styxman whats that stuff mean
[10:30] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: and where would i find synaptic?
[10:30] <StyXman> jahshua--: that's 352MiB of memory, 71 of them resident
[10:30] <jahshua--> ok
[10:30] <JHiFa> pureone, for the setting of gnutella i've to see in iptables or what?
[10:30] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: got it.
[10:30] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, system>admin>synaptic package manager
[10:30] <pureone> iptables --list
[10:30] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: too stupid
[10:30] <pureone> as root
[10:30] <StyXman> jahshua--: running with 6 torrents, one of them big
[10:30] <JHiFa> pureone, ok, and what are the ports i've to set
[10:30] <JHiFa> if you know...
[10:31] <pureone> never used gnutella
[10:31] <crazy3k> Ubuntu said I should reorganize my language packages using the application that is in "System -> Administration -> Language selector" but there's no such thing.
[10:31] <pureone> just do iptables --list
[10:31] <JHiFa> ok thanks
[10:31] <JHiFa> :-)
[10:31] <pureone> paste the output into pastebin.com
[10:31] <gnomefreak> pureone, need to use sudo
[10:31] <pureone> gnomefreak, why the hell do you need to use sudo ?
[10:31] <AtomicB_> so, no twinview users in the house? :(
[10:31] <pureone> why cant you do it as root?
[10:31] <ph8> gah!
[10:31] <test__> hey seveas
[10:31] <ph8> nothings ever simple jowi
[10:31] <gnomefreak> pureone, i dont know but i needed to
[10:31] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: there is only a gnome2 user guide. can i remove all gnome-packages anyway?
[10:31] <ph8> do you know where i can find usb_set_configuration binary?
[10:31] <pureone> gnomefreak, no.
[10:31] <gnomefreak> pureone, ok you can
[10:32] <Jinkguns> http://everett.lansingschools.net/microscope/mic_gallery1.html <-- Pictures of the actual microscope.
[10:32] <pureone> sudo is not needed
[10:32] <pureone> its just installed by default to make things easier for newbies
[10:32] <StyXman> is there any rss feed with the ubuntu security notices?
[10:32] <gnomefreak> pureone, not if your running as root
[10:32] <Jowi> ph8: i think that "usbmodules" should do it?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> you do have to have permissions to use iptables --list
[10:33] <ph8> can't find a package by that name
[10:33] <polpak> Storkme, when you ran sh quake4-linux-1.0.214.... etc
[10:33] <pureone> gnomefreak, thats why you do it as ROOT
[10:33] <crazy3k> Ubuntu said I should reorganize my language packages using the application that is in "System -> Administration -> Language selector" but there's no such thing. Where do I find it?
[10:33] <polpak> Storkme, where did you tell it to set the Install Path?
[10:33] <Seveas> test__, ?
[10:33] <jahshua--> how can i check if i have Javan installed? im pretty sure i do ..
[10:33] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: there is only a gnome2 user guide. can i remove all gnome-packages anyway?
[10:33] <jahshua--> Javan*
[10:33] <gnomefreak> pureone,  i dont do crap as root i always use sudo
[10:33] <jahshua--> Java*
[10:33] <Jowi> ph8: usbutils ?
[10:33] <Seveas> jahshua--, java -version
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, you have a gnome-something installed
[10:33] <pureone> gnomefreak, so basicly your account is root then :)
[10:34] <gnomefreak> pureone, all depends on how you define root :))
[10:34] <ph8> already got that installed :/
[10:34] <jahshua--> java version "1.4.2"   .. is that the one i need installed to use azureus ?
[10:34] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: I got tons and tons of gnome-something packages
[10:34] <njan> gnomefreak, running with the pid of the root user from /etc/passwd?
[10:34] <njan> gnomefreak, I'd say that fairly well qualifies you as running everything as root :P
[10:34] <test__> jahshua--, that one should work
[10:34] <Storkme> polpak, /usr/local/games/quake4 i think
[10:35] <crazy3k> Hello?
[10:35] <Storkme> polpak, i'll recheck
[10:35] <gnomefreak> njan, i dont do anything as "root" unless i have to
[10:35] <jahshua--> so sudo apt-get install azerus  ?
[10:35] <Kindred> Storkme, did you check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79887
[10:35] <Jowi> ph8: no idea
[10:35] <gnomefreak> jahshua--, not likely i dont htink its in the repos
[10:35] <njan> gnomefreak, right. Sorry, I misread what you said in context to infer that you ran everything using sudo :P
[10:35] <Kindred> it might be helpful that's all.
[10:35] <jahshua--> hmm
[10:36] <Storkme> Kindred, yeh, but it didnt help :| thanks
[10:36] <gnomefreak> !azerus
[10:36] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I don't know
[10:36] <jahshua--> the wiki says to just install the package
[10:36] <jahshua--> hmmm
[10:36] <Kindred> ah :\ hmm..
[10:36] <gnomefreak> ok how is it spelled?
[10:36] <jahshua--> well the wiki has it spelled two ways
[10:37] <jahshua--> hehe
[10:37] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: I got tons and tons of gnome-something packages. shall i remove them all?
[10:37] <Kindred> azureus I think
[10:37] <jahshua--> Azureus  and azerus
[10:37] <JHiFa> need to go
[10:37] <gnomefreak> !azureus
[10:37] <Jowi> ph8: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77362
[10:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[10:37] <JHiFa> bye!
[10:37] <JHiFa> and thanks!
[10:37] <GMachine_24> azureus
[10:37] <gnomefreak> there you go
[10:37] <jahshua--> cool thanks :)
[10:37] <ilba7r> anyone know how to restart cups
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Seicherl, i dont know if having ubuntu if things rely on gnome to run
[10:38] <karim> hey
[10:38] <gnomefreak> kill cups
[10:38] <blue-frog> sudo init.d/cupsys restart
[10:38] <harleyg> penis
[10:38] <ilba7r> thanx gnomefreak  and blue-frog
[10:38] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: ok, thx anyway. my recovery is above 4 GB now... that might be a long long night
[10:38] <karim> alrighty
[10:38] <blue-frog> sudo /etc/d/cupsys restart
[10:39] <gnomefreak> dapper kills cups even if you dont use it :((
[10:39] <karim> ive got a problem
[10:39] <xorion> what package installs the .ppd files?
[10:39] <karim> anyone here know anything about subtitles
[10:39] <blue-frog> sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, finally got it right..
[10:39] <karim> and adding them to movie files?
[10:39] <ilba7r> blue-frog, you mean sudo /etc
[10:39] <ilba7r> ya i got it
[10:39] <karim> (.srt+.abi)
[10:39] <ilba7r> thanx again blue-frog
[10:39] <crazy3k> Ubuntu said I should reorganize my language packages using the application that is in "System -> Administration -> Language selector" but there's no such thing. Where do I find it?
[10:39] <blue-frog> crazy3k, where it says it is
[10:40] <gnomefreak> crazy3k, thats where it would be
[10:40] <gnomefreak> its the 4th one down under system>admin
[10:40] <GMachine_24> Hi - just to double check, I can use a 250GB hard drive with Breezy without any recognition problems, correct?
[10:40] <crazy3k> Well, it's not there for some reason. :/
[10:40] <gnomefreak> crazy3k, what version of ubuntu?
[10:41] <crazy3k> I just upgraded to breezy.
[10:41] <gorski> how to install tar.gz files?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> crazy3k, breezy has it there and it cant be taken away that im aware of
[10:41] <crazy3k> Maybe it was not installed, let me see.
[10:41] <karim> how to speed up bittornado?
[10:41] <GMachine_24> tar xxxxxx.xxxxx.tar
[10:41] <blue-frog> gorski, tar xzf file.tar.gz then cd to the folder and read the instructions..
[10:41] <GMachine_24> yeah. i forgot that part. sorry.
[10:42] <Jowi> gorski: unpack them either with "file-roller" or "tar" then read the INSTALL and README file in the package
[10:42] <gnomefreak> crazy3k,  hold on there is a command to configure locales
[10:42] <gorski> ok, tnx
[10:42] <gnomefreak> and i dont have it :((
[10:42] <crazy3k> gnomefreak, I'm installing language-selector
[10:42] <crazy3k> Fixed.
[10:42] <polpak> Storkme, ok, so if you do find /usr/local/games/quake4 -name default.cfg   does it come up with the file?
[10:43] <gnomefreak> in gnome its an option?
[10:43] <Storkme> nope polpak
[10:43] <GMachine_24> So a 250GB drive on Breezy is no problem, correct?
[10:43] <mjr> GMachine_24, true
[10:43] <gnomefreak> GMachine_24, over kill
[10:43] <polpak> Storkme, that is really wierd. It should have been installed by the installer program somewhere
[10:43] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer
[10:44] <Jinkguns> I've set up a vnc server on mitsune:1, but when I use vnc2swf (which uses the vnc server to take a video of the desktop) I get a socket rejected, 111. ;/
[10:44] <StyXman> answering myself about rss feed for usn: http://ubuntuforums.org/external.php?type=rss2&forumids=20
[10:44] <GMachine_24> gnome, mjr: thanks. it's for a backup server
[10:44] <polpak> GMachine_24, the OS portion of ubuntu (including all your standard apps etc) take up only about half of a 5 gig partition
[10:44] <blue-frog> gnomefreak, not an option but you must have build-essential installed to run dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:44] <GMachine_24> pol: yeah, i know.
[10:44] <fmasi> how do i change a file from .ps (firefor printing file) to a pdf
[10:44] <gnomefreak> blue-frog, he should have had it in his system>admin by default though?
[10:44] <Kindred> Storkme, another thing I read said to chmod 775 /usr/local/games/quake4
[10:44] <Kindred> heh.
[10:45] <Kr0ntab> sup folks...
[10:45] <blue-frog> gnomefreak, not compulsory as it is an upgrade
[10:45] <gnomefreak> unless hoary didnt have it
[10:45] <akra_> hi! quick question: is there a list of keyboard shortcuts for gedit anywhere?
[10:45] <GMachine_24> ok everyone, thanks for your time & help.
[10:45] <dfgas> k i just installed xorg and now i get glcore errors, any idea?
[10:45] <TengkSA> How do i get avi / divx / video codecs?
[10:46] <jared_> What package should I use to install kerberos in ubuntu (Setting up a KDC)
[10:46] <polpak> ubotu tell TengkSA about restricted
[10:46] <Mabus06> How come my rhythmbox is just cycling through songs without playing anything? I tried killall esd, alsa, and oss, but the same thing happens still.
[10:46] <dfgas> gnomefreak: server install
[10:46] <Mabus06> And I also tried readding my music.
[10:46] <gnomefreak> dfgas, true
[10:46] <Storkme> Kindred, tried
[10:46] <dfgas> any idea?
[10:46] <Storkme> polpak, from googling i can't find an example one
[10:47] <dfgas> gnomefreak: thinking about reinstalling, lol, just a reg install
[10:47] <gnomefreak> dfgas, my thinking was if you were doing a server install than you would want Xorg :(( but maybe decided afterwards
[10:47] <fsn> hey, this really isnt a problem with ubuntu but, anyone know how to set a windows partition to primary since it doesnt seem to show in GRUB and im guessing becuase it was a logical partition =/
[10:47] <gnomefreak> dfgas,  try it its nice and easy no issues normally :))
[10:47] <dfgas> k
[10:47] <polpak> Storkme, ah!
[10:47] <jared_> Mabus06: If your music is MP3's, did you install the codecs?
[10:48] <ph8> Jowi: still borked, it can't find the device (gnomad2 package) - i'll have to post on the forums about it unless you have any more ideas?
[10:48] <polpak> Storkme, hrm wait no
[10:48] <P8ntKid> I want to make a partition to save all my /home files on because i am about to update to breezy. I was wondering if i should make it an ext2 filesystem? or what?
[10:48] <ph8> Incidentally does anyone know how to stop synaptic starting with the pc?
[10:48] <Mabus06> jared_, quite sure, although this is a recent reinstall so I'll check
[10:48] <ph8> i'm used to using apt-get and the package manager bugs me with it's popups
[10:48] <Storkme> polpak, you got me excited then
[10:48] <Malachi> How do you apply themes?
[10:48] <polpak> Storkme, I thought it might be a write permissions problem because it's installed to a directory in /usr/
[10:48] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy+
[10:48] <Malachi> Like themes from gnome-look.org
[10:49] <polpak> Storkme, but if you are running the game as sudo you should have full permissions
[10:49] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help?
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ph8, if im not mistaken you can turn the depends popups off in preff
[10:49] <Storkme> polpak, the game files are in /home/alex/quake4/
[10:49] <Jowi> ph8: so the solution for the usb_set_configuration worked ?
[10:49] <polpak> Malachi, easiest way to get new themes is to sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[10:49] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, a question might help get us helping you
[10:49] <polpak> Storkme, ok try this
[10:50] <Malachi> Okay.
[10:50] <P8ntKid> gnomfreak I want to make a partition to save all my /home files on because i am about to update to breezy. I was wondering if i should make it an ext2 filesystem? or what?
[10:50] <j2daosh> well that is odd....
[10:50] <jahshua> arrgh   ...can someone remind me the command to navigate to my Desktop in terminal ?
[10:50] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[10:50] <jahshua> i tried cd /Desktop
[10:50] <Mabus06> jared_ nope, that's not it
[10:50] <gnomefreak> pong
[10:50] <polpak> Storkme, find /home/alex/quake4  | xargs sudo chown alex:alex
[10:50] <cello_rasp> i am having a hell of a time trying to mount smb via fstab: //192.168.1.3/thomas /home/thomas/Desktop/thomas\ \(ixion\) smbfs username=thomas,password=xxxx,umask=000 0 0
[10:50] <Pygi> freaky: try compiling new version....
[10:51] <stuart_> Can I update to Breezy from the command line. I heard there were problems with it.
[10:51] <Pygi> stuart
[10:51] <Pygi> !upgrade
[10:51] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:51] <cello_rasp> what is wrong with that mount command
[10:51] <stuart_> Mnay thanks.
[10:51] <ph8> gnomefreak: yes but there's no need for it to be there
[10:51] <jahshua> arrgh   ...can someone remind me the command to navigate to my Desktop in terminal ?
[10:51] <ph8> jowi: it appears so
[10:51] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?
[10:51] <jahshua> i tried cd /Desktop
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Pygi, compiling new version of what?
[10:51] <polpak> cello_rasp, can you pastebin your fstab ?
[10:51] <jchillerup> Is there an ubuntu-chan for ubuntu on PPC?
[10:51] <ph8> after i'd corrected some of my borked /etc permissions
[10:51] <jared_> Mabus06: I would do a search and figure out where it puts it's log, that way you at least have an error to search on.
[10:51] <cajun> if i'm running ubuntu Live does it have full functionality? i.e. i can mount other drives on the system and burn CDs etc?
[10:51] <Pygi> freaky: the Fama
[10:51] <cello_rasp> jashua cd /home/username/Desktop
[10:51] <gnomefreak> jchillerup, you found it
[10:51] <Storkme> chown: too few arguments
[10:51] <Storkme> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[10:51] <ph8> i messed up all the permissions on /etc/ files a while back and i can only correct the errors as i find them
[10:51] <P8ntKid> I want to make a partition to save all my /home files on because i am about to update to breezy. I was wondering if i should make it an ext2 filesystem? or what?
[10:52] <Pygi> !patience
[10:52] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[10:52] <Kindred> jahshua:  cd ~/Desktop
[10:52] <jahshua> cello_rasp thanks
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i didnt know it was ready enough
[10:52] <jahshua> kindred thanks
[10:52] <Pygi> freaky: well, it is ready for compile :)
[10:52] <Storkme> polpak, nothing came up
[10:52] <jchillerup> gnomefreak, a chan ONLY for ubuntu on PPC
[10:52] <jchillerup> Not x86
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ok let me get done with this crap that its doing nad ill get to it tonight or tomorrow
[10:52] <gnomefreak> jchillerup, there is no channel for 386 ppc or 64 its ubuntu .
[10:53] <j2daosh> ok... i have 2 location questions... where can i get the automatix script at and the winmac script at?
[10:53] <Pygi> !automatix
[10:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:53] <cajun> !Live
[10:53] <ubotu> cajun: Syntax error in line 1
[10:53] <Pygi> freaky: k
[10:53] <ph8> haha! victory
[10:54] <polpak> Storkme, that's ok
[10:54] <ph8> it was a driver config thing jowi
[10:54] <polpak> Storkme, it wasn't supposed to
[10:54] <ph8> the second link from that forum link helped
[10:54] <Storkme> polpak, oh?
[10:54] <cello_rasp> polpak: http://pastebin.com/490850
[10:54] <jahshua> i need to update to Java 5.0
[10:54] <j2daosh> hey pygi.... u wouldn't happen to know where i can get the winmac script from would ya? that one that writes my ntfs drives to my fstab..
[10:54] <polpak> Storkme, find /home/alex/quake4 -type d | xargs chmod 750
[10:54] <jahshua> anyone know the package name for it ?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Pygi, how do i get to download page from the home page?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> java has a 5.0?
[10:55] <Jowi> ph8: ok, hope it will sort itself out
[10:55] <Pygi> !winmac
[10:55] <ubotu> Pygi: I give up, what is it?
[10:55] <j2daosh> jahshua, have u tried dling it from java.com?
[10:55] <DivGradCurl> Note - my question is fairly complex and involves knowledge on creating boot discs or such.
[10:55] <DivGradCurl> I recently installed Linux to my Portable HD - as per the instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 - using a computer that (apparently) doesn't support booting from USB devices.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jahshua about java
[10:55] <DivGradCurl> According to a non-Ubuntu thread that I found - http://www.goosee.com/puppy/boot2pup.htm - it is possible to boot Ubuntu from a USB device even if the BIOS doesn't inately support doing so (another plus is that it wouldn't require hacking a friend's BIOS to get in even if it DID support USB booting).
[10:55] <Storkme> polpak, again nothing happened and it still doesn't work
[10:55] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, you need to download from svn...just a second, I'll do it for u
[10:55] <DivGradCurl> It would seem to me that one would need to use something to detect foreign devices and try booting to them.  Smart Boot Manager, for example, can do this for computers that don't boot from CD; but it doesn't have USB support!
[10:55] <cello_rasp> polpak: strangely i can mount them manually using mount -t smbfs //192.168.1.3/thomas /home/thomas/Desktop/thomas\ \(ixion\) -o username=thomas,password=xxxxxxx,fmask=777,dmask=777,rw
[10:55] <Seicherl> how can i "mount" a directory thats on another server running samba?
[10:55] <DivGradCurl> Does anyone have advice for how to boot to a USB device from a non-USB booting computer?  It certainly seems possible, maybe using rescue mode from an install CD?  I have Ubuntu installed locally on the computer that I'm testing, so I can play with its' GRUB and anything else while experimenting.
[10:56] <JoeBlow> when i use mplayer to run avis, they run fine, but when i try to enlarge the screen, it just surrouns the video with a solid blue border
[10:56] <JoeBlow> anyone have any ideas?
[10:56] <fredforfaen> !paste
[10:56] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:56] <polpak> cello_rasp, I think it's having an isue with the spaces in the mount location
[10:56] <AtomicB_> Seicherl, look up smbfs
[10:56] <cello_rasp> Seicherl: you need to set up shares and user/passwords on the smb server
[10:56] <fredforfaen> !pastebin
[10:56] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:56] <Jinkguns> Anyone know why when I start up a vnc server and then vncserver tries to connect to it, I get connection refused? 111?
[10:56] <Seicherl> cello_rasp: the shares are already running on the server. i want to use them on the client
[10:56] <j2daosh> jink lots of reasons
[10:56] <jahshua> Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error .. anyone know how i can fix this ?
[10:56] <AtomicB_> Seicherl, it's documented here - http://ubuntuguide.org/
[10:57] <jahshua> i dont know how to open ports
[10:57] <varsendagger> has anyone seen the OSX dashbar feature?
[10:57] <j2daosh> Jinkguns, can u ping the destination ip?
[10:57] <Seicherl> AtomicB_: ok, I'll have a look. thx.
[10:57] <Jinkguns> erm, it's local
[10:57] <cello_rasp> polpak: manually mounting doesnt have such problems: in both cases i have used the escape character, surely fstab can handle "\ "?
[10:57] <j2daosh> and?
[10:57] <AtomicB_> now, can anyone help *me* haha, can someone help me with nvidia twinview in ubuntu
[10:57] <polpak> cello_rasp, I don't think it will
[10:57] <AtomicB_> anyone had any experice with it?
[10:58] <polpak> cello_rasp, let me see how to correctly use a space
[10:58] <jahshua> Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error .. anyone know how i can fix this ? i dont know how to open ports in ubuntu
[10:58] <Jinkguns> I'm trying to use vnc2swf, which uses vncserver to capture video of the desktop for tutorials.
[10:58] <AtomicB_> I can only get one screen working.. I have a feeling I'm missing something obvious that someone who knows about it could spot
[10:58] <Seicherl> AtomicB_: that only seems to tell me about setting up samba. not using a share on the client
[10:58] <polpak> Storkme, is it still the same error about default.cfg?
[10:58] <Storkme> yep
[10:58] <Storkme> i tried creating a blank default config? no luck
[10:58] <Storkme> that was a long shot really
[10:58] <AtomicB_> Seicherl, http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountnetworkfoldersall < is that not what you were asking for?
[10:58] <AtomicB_> apologies if not
[10:58] <DivGradCurl> I'm not sure if pastebin comment was refering to me; I type up my question in detail and posted it rather quickly so that I'd have all my thoughts together to make reference easier for anybody willing to help (and fulfill their own curiousity, maybe!)
[10:59] <jahshua> Testing port 6881 ... NAT Error .. anyone know how i can fix this ? i dont know how to open ports in ubuntu
[10:59] <j2daosh> jahshua, u have a router?
[10:59] <Seicherl> AtomicB_: ups... i was looking for samba. not for network folders. my mistake. sorry
[10:59] <jahshua> yes i do
[10:59] <j2daosh> would it by chance be a linksys one?
[10:59] <jahshua> no
[10:59] <P8ntKid_> How would i make a partition to store some files incase i ever wanted to upgrade to breezy?
[10:59] <jahshua> Netopia
[11:00] <dfgas> gnomefreak: reinstalling right now  :D
[11:00] <gianina> hey u tehre how are u
[11:00] <gnomefreak> lol dfgas
[11:00] <gianina> what
[11:00] <dfgas> i wasn't gonna screw with that again
[11:00] <Mabus06> jahshua, portforward.com
[11:00] <gianina> can u speak german
[11:00] <j2daosh> ... not familiar with that brand... but i think it might have something to do with your router...
[11:00] <polpak> cello_rasp, I'm very certain that the problem is the spaces
[11:00] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, any reason why your not upgrading to breezy?
[11:00] <polpak> cello_rasp, but I'm not sure how to get it to parse correctly
[11:00] <gianina> wehre do u come from
[11:00] <Jinkguns> I'm trying to use vnc2swf, which uses vncserver to capture video of the desktop to create flash tutorials. But when I tell it to connect to the port, I get 111 connection refused, which is odd because it is the host machine, ne?
[11:01] <jahshua> crap
[11:01] <jahshua> ok
[11:01] <cello_rasp> polpak, you are quite right. damn, you are on fire tonight!
[11:01] <j2daosh> what exactly are you trying to do jahshua?
[11:01] <gianina> hellllllllllooooooooooooooooooo!
[11:01] <polpak> cello_rasp, ah
[11:01] <jahshua> im trying to set up Azureus
[11:01] <polpak> cello_rasp, if you must use spaces you can
[11:01] <gianina> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
[11:01] <j2daosh> ahh... then yeah... setup port forwarding on your router
[11:01] <DivGradCurl> I have a question:  How does one boot to Ubuntu on a USB device if the BIOS doesn't support booting to USB? (Their is evidence that this CAN be done with other distributions and/or programs)
[11:01] <polpak> cello_rasp, you just have to use \040 in the fstab instead of a space
[11:01] <gianina> wehre do u come from????????????????''''
[11:02] <svb_moe> someone from germany?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> gianina, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chat this is a help channel
[11:02] <jahshua> j2daosh: i wish i know how heh
[11:02] <gianina> yes
[11:02] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: Well, i am going to upgrade to breezy.
[11:02] <svb_moe> JEMAND AUS DEUTSCHLAND DA?
[11:02] <gianina> im from germany
[11:02] <gianina> and u
[11:02] <svb_moe> ja sprich deutsch
[11:02] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: But, i want to save the file i have like all my pictures/videos and stuff
[11:02] <gianina> ja wir
[11:02] <svb_moe> endlich^^
[11:02] <gianina> von wo bist du
[11:02] <cello_rasp> polpak: thanks a lot!
[11:02] <polpak> Storkme, Ok, I'm highly confused
[11:03] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, why would you lose it if you upgrading without cd
[11:03] <polpak> Storkme, It should totally be there
[11:03] <svb_moe> nhe Bielefeld und du?
[11:03] <svb_moe> bzw. ihr?
[11:03] <polpak> Storkme, I'm tempted to go buy Quake 4 myself just to get it working for you =p
[11:03] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: I want to upgrade using a cd.
[11:03] <gianina> berlin
[11:03] <j2daosh> div... how old is your computer?
[11:03] <polpak> cello_rasp, np =)
[11:03] <gianina> wie alt bist du
[11:03] <svb_moe> fussballfans?
[11:03] <Jinkguns> j2daosh, any ideas? :/
[11:03] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, ahhhhh i see yes than please back em up
[11:03] <svb_moe> 17
[11:03] <svb_moe> ihr?
[11:03] <gianina> ja extrem
[11:03] <gianina> du
[11:04] <svb_moe> ich auch, bin bei dem Ultras
[11:04] <gnomefreak> anyone care to ask them to leave for chat?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> i tried
[11:04] <gianina> 16
[11:04] <j2daosh> Jinkguns,  lol sorry... what were we talking about again? im getting sidetracked sorry
[11:04] <gianina> geil
[11:04] <jamie_1> Hallo Deutschland leute.....
[11:04] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: Yes, and I was thinking about making another partition to put the file i want saved on.
[11:04] <svb_moe> moin
[11:04] <JoeBlow> is their a way I can convert a ntfs partition fat32?
[11:04] <gianina> mnnlich oder weiblich
[11:04] <svb_moe> mnnlich, wie die meisten hier
[11:04] <Storkme> polpak, crazy (good?) news
[11:04] <gianina> geil
[11:04] <j2daosh> JoeBlow, yeah... partition magic/fdisk...
[11:04] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow,  did you try #windows?
[11:04] <svb_moe> und du?
[11:04] <polpak> Storkme, oh?
[11:04] <gianina> wir nicht
[11:04] <WorstPhobia> Has anyone had a problem with Evolution crashing?
[11:05] <jamie_1> Maybe I shouldn't have done that...........
[11:05] <svb_moe> nein, cool^^
[11:05] <Storkme> polpak, i re-installed quake as super user, and to /usr/local/games/quake4
[11:05] <WorstPhobia> It crashes when I open the calendar
[11:05] <jamie_1> Oh, worstPhobia, I do.
[11:05] <Storkme> now i get different errors
[11:05] <gnomefreak> WorstPhobia, yes about a year ago so i stopped using it
[11:05] <svb_moe> kann man irgendwo den raum wechseln?
[11:05] <gianina> wie siehst du aus
[11:05] <Storkme> i'm guessing that's a good thing
[11:05] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: Any ideas on how to make a new partition?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> i havent had a problem since
[11:05] <gianina> glaub nicht
[11:05] <WorstPhobia> Any alternatives?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, gparted
[11:05] <polpak> Storkme, can you pastebin the errors?
[11:05] <jahshua> does anyone know a good site for bittorrent files ?
[11:05] <gianina> komme nicht so ganz draus
[11:05] <svb_moe> schwarze haare, dunkelbraune haare, 1,87 gro und du?
[11:05] <Storkme> polpak, Sys_Error: SDL_GL_LoadLibrary libGL.so.1 failed: Could not load OpenGL library
[11:05] <gnomefreak> thunderbird WorstPhobia
[11:05] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh: This computer is 4.5 years old, but the one I've been using (adjacent, Ubuntu locally installed) is ~3 years.  But I talked to tech support and they said that it did not have USB booting support.  I also consider this to be a question with wider implications and if a possible method is found would like to post it for others to use in the future.
[11:05] <Storkme> polpak, that's the gist of it
[11:05] <jonny> Would any of you folks have a second to point a newbie in the direction of a beginners guide to using CVS in ubuntu?
[11:05] <Pygi> !oPENGL
[11:05] <P8ntKid_> polpak: Well, i have that. But, i dont know what filesystem to use.
[11:05] <ubotu> Pygi: What?
[11:05] <gianina> geil
[11:05] <WorstPhobia> But for Calendar.
[11:05] <Pygi> !patience
[11:05] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:05] <Pygi> !OpenGL
[11:05] <WorstPhobia> And contact.
[11:05] <ubotu> Pygi: What?
[11:05] <WorstPhobia> And task.
[11:05] <jahshua> does anyone know a good site for bittorrent files ?
[11:06] <WorstPhobia> Besides mail.
[11:06] <svb_moe> habt ihr ICQ?
[11:06] <jamie_1> Phobia: I can't really help you there. svb: ja.........
[11:06] <gianina> nein aber bald
[11:06] <Storkme> polpak, google gave me a promising result about graphics cards, i'll check it out and get back to you :)
[11:06] <gnomefreak> WorstPhobia, i only use it for mail but mozilla suite has everything
[11:06] <j2daosh> Jinkguns, u get my msg?
[11:06] <jonny> Jahshua.  What specifically is it you're looking for?  There's mininova, torrentz and torrentreactor.
[11:06] <polpak> Storkme, sounds like you don't have the right graphics libs installed or some such
[11:06] <svb_moe> schade, ich glaub ich wei wie man privat chattet, ein mom
[11:06] <gianina> wohnst du noch bi deinen eltern
[11:07] <WorstPhobia> Okay.
[11:07] <gianina> meine bei
[11:07] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: You kinda left me hanging. I don't really know how to make a new partition ;(
[11:07] <j2daosh> there is also pirates bay
[11:07] <gianina> aha wie denn
[11:07] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, use gparted
[11:07] <gnomefreak> its a graphical partion utility
[11:07] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: What filesystem should i use?
[11:07] <jahshua--> jonny im lookin for music and movies
[11:07] <Storkme> polpak, yeh, that's what it looks like
[11:08] <j2daosh> P8ntKid, get gparted
[11:08] <gianina> hey bist du noch da
[11:08] <gnomefreak> P8ntKid, thats not for me ther ei dont go around mounting and sharing from disk to disk or pc to pc
[11:08] <svb_moe> jaaaa
[11:08] <ompaul> jahshua--, have you seen archive.org
[11:08] <ompaul> !de
[11:08] <ubotu> de is probably Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:08] <likantro> hi guys, i need fix it "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0""
[11:08] <gianina> wie kann man p.chtten
[11:08] <likantro> please help me
[11:08] <P8ntKid_> gnomefreak: ok?
[11:08] <gianina> meine chatten
[11:08] <j2daosh> use synaptic and search for gparted... that will give you a graphical partition tool
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ompaul, tried and failed
[11:08] <P8ntKid_> j2daosh: I have it...
[11:08] <jonny> Well mininova is my site of choice.  Mind you I would get music off peer to peer with limewire.  Think you find more that way.
[11:08] <svb_moe> da bei der textflche da drunter, da steht svb-moe und das blinkt
[11:08] <jahshua--> ompaul: no i dont think so
[11:08] <gnomefreak> they want to chat i said to use #ubuntu-offtopic :))
[11:08] <Storkme> polpak, so i found two .deb packages that an FAQ told me to download, what do i do with them :) ?
[11:09] <gianina> aha
[11:09] <svb_moe> siehstes?
[11:09] <P8ntKid_> j2daosh: I want to make a new partition, to store some files on for when i upgrade to breezy, but, i dont know what filesystem type to make the new partition.
[11:09] <jahshua--> jonny: im lookin for music and movies
[11:09] <gianina> okay mal schaun
[11:09] <nomasteryoda> P8ntKid, ext3 works fine
[11:09] <P8ntKid_> nomasteryoda: ok
[11:09] <j2daosh> P8ntKid, well from personal experience (which aint much) i would say just use ext3... its pretty stable
[11:10] <Seicherl> ok, just tried to mount a networkfolder on my client following the instructions on ubuntuguide.org and my kernel tells me that "smbfs: mount_data version xxx is not supported"! Any suggestions?
[11:10] <gianina> finde es nicht
[11:10] <nomasteryoda> =D see
[11:10] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[11:10] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:10] <gianina> es kanns ja sowieso niemand lesen
[11:10] <gianina> alles englnder oder so hier drinnen
[11:10] <kemik> !de
[11:10] <ubotu> it has been said that de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:10] <kemik> perhaps ?
[11:10] <Storkme> rofl
[11:10] <P8ntKid_> j2daosh: Now, can i make the new partition now? or should i be on some sort of live cd?
[11:10] <gianina> wohnst du noch bei einen eltern
[11:10] <svb_moe> trotzdem, es ist immer schlecht zu finden, was ihr schreibt
[11:10] <Storkme> there's bits of windows cd lying around my room :P
[11:10] <gianina> ja stimmt bei dir auch
[11:11] <svb_moe> ja, bei meiner mutter, aber ich ziehe mrz aus
[11:11] <gnomefreak> kemik, they are german and no they dont want to leave :((
[11:11] <j2daosh> P8ntKid, u can do it now as long as you aren't messing with the root part...
[11:11] <Pygi> freaky: how should I send you it? mail?
[11:11] <jahshua--> jonny: www.mininova.org yes
[11:11] <ompaul> gianina, svb_moe bitte #ubuntu-de or speak english bitte
[11:11] <jonny> That's the one.
[11:11] <Seicherl> gianina: nein, nicht nur englnder, aber das haben internationale channels an sich, dass man englisch spricht.
[11:11] <kemik> gnomefreak:  well then .de was right then ;)
[11:11] <gnomefreak> Pygi, what kind of file tar?
[11:11] <gianina> geile sache
[11:11] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh: Another 'tab' opened up with a message from you.  I've been typing stuff there instead of in this room but aren't sure that you're getting my messages.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> kemik, yep it was
[11:11] <ompaul> dake Seicherl
[11:11] <Pygi> freaky: yup
[11:11] <gianina> jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:11] <gnomefreak> try gmail
[11:11] <ompaul> danke Seicherl
[11:11] <gianina> weiss schon
[11:11] <svb_moe> knnt ihr, ihr erklren, wie man privat chattet
[11:11] <Pygi> freaky: sent
[11:11] <Seicherl> ompaul: yw
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:12] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:12] <Chris_Tucker> how does one burn a bootable iso to cd from command line?
[11:12] <svb_moe> noch da?
[11:12] <jonny> jahshua do you know much about linux or are you quite new to it?
[11:12] <Storkme> polpak, where should i install the .deb packages to? same place i put my libsdl files?
[11:12] <kemik> Storkme:  you cant choose were to install the .deb
[11:12] <kemik> Storkme:  only where to save it :)
[11:12] <Storkme> i can :\
[11:12] <Storkme> same thing
[11:12] <Storkme> ;o
[11:13] <kemik> dpkg -i foo.deb installs it
[11:13] <gianina> jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:13] <jahshua--> jonny: im very new to it
[11:13] <j2daosh> DivGradCurl,  nope... haven't receieved any messages... look at the ubuntu servers tab and see if it is saying you can do prv msg because your not registared
[11:13] <ompaul> !ops
[11:13] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[11:13] <Chris_Tucker> how does one burn a bootable iso to cd from command line?
[11:13] <kemik> Storkme:   where you save it doesnt matter much as long as you remember the location
[11:13] <gianina> wir haben es gefunden
[11:13] <Storkme> kemik, why?
[11:13] <gianina> glauben wir wnigstens
[11:13] <kemik> someone should end everyones misery and kick gianina in the f*ce
[11:13] <Pygi> !cdrecord
[11:13] <ubotu> Pygi: I give up, what is it?
[11:13] <jonny> Oh.  Me too really.  You don't happen to know anything about CVS or how to use it?  Not much on the wiki.
[11:13] <Pygi> !cvs
[11:13] <ubotu> cvs is, like, the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[11:13] <svb_moe> ok
[11:13] <kemik> Storkme:  why what ?
[11:13] <markrian> What's the point of Info pages? Why on earth are they used instead of man pages? I mean what benefits do they offer? It's *extremely* difficult to find what I'm looking for in Info pages.
[11:13] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh: Oh, give me a minute to search help on information how to register, etc.
[11:14] <svb_moe> guck ma
[11:14] <ompaul> kemik, I have asked for ops lets leave it
[11:14] <P8ntKid_> j2daosh: I got some error thing after i hit apply, it sais "At least one operation was applied to a busy device."
[11:14] <Pygi> jonny: cvs is old and outdated....use bazaar or SVN
[11:14] <Mabus06> use tell, Pygi
[11:14] <Storkme> kemik, why does it not matter?
[11:14] <Jinkguns> okay, I started a vnc server, but when I try to connect to it (using a client on the same machine) I get connection refused.
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Pygi, any important libs or anything needed?
[11:14] <svb_moe> unter dem feld, wo du schreibst steht mein name rot geschrieben
[11:14] <kemik> Storkme:  because you install what's inside the .deb
[11:14] <gianina> was
[11:14] <AtomicB_> anyone here got an Nvidia Twinview experince? Help me :(
[11:14] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: just glib should be fine
[11:14] <Pegasos989> Hmmh. I beat that gnometris game that came with ubuntu. Is it possible to download more difficulty addons or something?
[11:14] <polpak> Storkme, you don't want to install the deb
[11:14] <Storkme> kemik, o, rly?
[11:14] <polpak> Storkme, you want to extract it
[11:14] <Storkme> polpak, why?
[11:14] <j2daosh> DivGradCurl, just do /msg nickserv register "password goes here (no quotes)"
[11:14] <Barbeirovsk> hello!
[11:14] <svb_moe> unter dem feld wo du schreibst steht mein name in rot geschrieben
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[11:14] <polpak> Storkme, because they are for i386 and you use amd64
[11:14] <Storkme> polpak, here's my error listed in http://fatooh.org/q4howto/, near the bottom of the page
[11:14] <j2daosh> DivGradCurl, then identify urself using the pass
[11:15] <Inf3ctedFx> Hey guys what is xmms2  a new version of xmms?
[11:15] <captainredbeard> I've got 3 ubuntu machines on my network, how do I browse them?
[11:15] <gianina> ja haben wir gefunden
[11:15] <svb_moe> klickt drauf
[11:15] <svb_moe> dann schrieben wir da
[11:15] <polpak> Storkme, which one?
[11:15] <gianina> aber es eht irgendwie nicht
[11:15] <cvt|gnuyear> What is a good dvd burning application?
[11:15] <Storkme> polpak, it's the last error/fix
[11:15] <svb_moe> wieso nicht
[11:15] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[11:16] <Seicherl> ok, i tried the wiki, but i don't even know what to look for. Neither smbfs nor networkfolder showed a result...
[11:16] <jonny> Well as it goes I just want to download a CVS source from a website but I don't know how.  Tried just typing CVS at the command line but it's now a recognised command.  What do I do?
[11:16] <P8ntKid_> j2daosh: Should i reboot the computer?
[11:16] <captainredbeard> !network
[11:16] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[11:16] <Barbeirovsk> hey guys! someone knows if the HP Scanner Scanjet 4670, works in Ubuntu?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Pygi, ummmmmmm did you maybe leave something out?
[11:17] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: like?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Pygi, ./configure doesnt work :((
[11:17] <j2daosh> P8ntKid_, its always a good idea to reboot after changing a partition... gives the system a chance to reconfig
[11:17] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: it doesn't have ./configure :P
[11:17] <Pygi> freaky: just use make
[11:17] <gnomefreak> so just skip to make
[11:17] <Seveas> !one
[11:17] <ubotu> two
[11:17] <Storkme> polpak, do i need to install i386 or a64?
[11:17] <polpak> Storkme, did you try sudo apt-get nvidia-glx-ia32
[11:17] <gnomefreak> ok what about checkinstall?
[11:17] <Storkme> no, i'll do that
[11:17] <jonny> Pygi what do I type at the command line to start CVS or am I way off the mark here?
[11:17] <Pygi> gnomefreak: no, don't do checkinstall :P just make
[11:18] <P8ntKid_> j2daosh: ok thanks
[11:18] <Barbeirovsk> the Scanner Scanjet 4670, is that one very thiny...
[11:18] <gnomefreak> make is done
[11:18] <Pygi> jonny: you type "cvs url" or something
[11:18] <gnomefreak> thats it? no makeinstall?
[11:18] <kizzys123> hey svb_moe bist du da???
[11:18] <Pygi> freaky: it worked well?
[11:18] <Pygi> freakY: no, still not ready for use :)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> a few lines of gcc
[11:18] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh: /msg nickserv identify rocket
[11:18] <DivGradCurl> erp
[11:18] <DivGradCurl> Darn
[11:18] <j2daosh> lol
[11:18] <gnomefreak> so its not ready yet?
[11:19] <DivGradCurl> Hey, it is a new password with no equiv anywhere!  Thank dog.
[11:19] <DivGradCurl> Okay, now, how do I change my pass?
[11:19] <Seicherl> I can't get it... can anybody help me with mounting a sambashare on my client. plz.
[11:19] <Seveas> DivGradCurl, -> see PM
[11:19] <kizzys123> hey sorry we cant speak very good english
[11:19] <Seicherl> I don't know how to handle this error: "smbfs: mount_data version xxx is not supported"! Any suggestions?
[11:19] <Storkme> polpak, how about sudo apt-get install nivida-glx ? that's about the only nvidia package i can find
[11:19] <j2daosh> lol
[11:20] <Barbeirovsk> thanks for nothing....
[11:20] <sven-tek> is there a dedicated dapper channel?
[11:20] <Pygi> freaky: for usage? no :P
[11:20] <polpak> Storkme, you need to install that also certainly
[11:20] <polpak> Storkme, but that's independant of this issue
[11:20] <Storkme> oh
[11:20] <kizzys123> bonjour je m'appelle gdshkjgfkjadf
[11:20] <gnomefreak> sven-tek, you found it but i dont know how much support you will get on dapper since its not stable yet
[11:21] <sven-tek> iam not _using_ it and asking for support
[11:21] <sven-tek> iam testing it
[11:21] <odat> hi everyone
[11:21] <Storkme> polpak, new error: Sys_Error: SDL_SetVideoMode failed: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[11:21] <gnomefreak> sven-tek, ok what was the issue?
[11:21] <Barbeirovsk> hi
[11:21] <kemik> sven-tek:  ubuntu-devel perhaps? ;)
[11:22] <sven-tek> on two systems desktop had irritations with 24bit and it was okay with 16bit
[11:22] <Pygi> anyone with Kdevelop here?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Pygi, yes
[11:22] <gnomefreak> and sven-tek im pretty sure i remember somthing on that in bugzilla
[11:22] <sven-tek> okay
[11:22] <Barbeirovsk> SOMEONE CAN GIVE ME JUST ONE INFORMATION? PLZ
[11:22] <Inf3ctedFx> hey ppl when there is an error like this --> W: GPG error: http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E8DDB29170188C3B
[11:23] <Pygi> freaky; tell me, does kdevelop generates source directory structures, ./configure and such things??
[11:23] <Inf3ctedFx> what should I do?
[11:23] <Pygi> !patience
[11:23] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[11:23] <Seveas> !tell Barbeirovsk about attitude
[11:23] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, gpg --recv 70188C3B && gpg --export --armor 70188C3B | sudo apt-key add -
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Pygi, dont know i write lil programs :(( but that debian package site tells you how i thought
[11:24] <g0ju> anyone knows what the name of the font on this screen shot is?
[11:24] <g0ju> http://mitglied.lycos.de/eemex/pics/tp.png
[11:24] <Storkme> wow this is impossiblr
[11:24] <jahshua--> !tell jahshua-- about attitude
[11:24] <Inf3ctedFx> uuf I have more than one error so I have to do the same with everyone of those? Seveas ?
[11:24] <jahshua--> hehe
[11:24] <JoeBlow> I need to convert a ntfs partion to fat 32 within ubuntu, is their a comman i can run or something
[11:24] <JoeBlow> just an easy way to do itr
[11:24] <jahshua--> jonny: i am new to linux yes
[11:25] <ompaul> jahshua--, if you /msg ubotu you can have a long conversation with the bot :-)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ubuntu cant change ntfs to fat :(( can it?
[11:25] <Seveas> JoeBlow, mkfs.vfat (you'll lose all data)
[11:25] <Inf3ctedFx> hey Seveas  look  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6613
[11:25] <Pygi> freaky: can you please take a look? just try to start a project
[11:25] <JoeBlow> Seveas: how do i do it?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Pygi,  i dont have any set on this im on dapper atm
[11:26] <polpak> Storkme, you really need to get the amd64 users to help. I don't have any experience with doing it, so I'm mostly just going by what howto's I can find
[11:26] <ompaul> jahshua--, if you >>/msg ubotu attitude << no one else sees the conversation in the channel
[11:26] <Pygi> dang, anyone with Kdevelop here?
[11:26] <Storkme> polpak, fair enough. thanks for al the help
[11:26] <jahshua--> ompaul: yep ubuto told me :) thanks!
[11:27] <ompaul> jahshua--, :)
[11:27] <odat> gnome rock!
[11:27] <odat> rocks lol
[11:27] <JoeBlow> i really need help converting a partion within ubuntu
[11:27] <Storkme> ubuntu is hell
[11:28] <jahshua--> lol
[11:28] <sven-tek> odat, what have you used before
[11:28] <jahshua--> ubuntu is heaven
[11:28] <odat> storkme  why?
[11:28] <odat> every os out there
[11:28] <Inf3ctedFx> hey Seveas  I'm getting the same error in ur repository
[11:28] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, then do the same for my pubkey
[11:28] <Inf3ctedFx> look what I paste it 4 u
[11:28] <Inf3ctedFx> hey Seveas  look  --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6613
[11:29] <Inf3ctedFx> thats the error I'm getting
[11:29] <Storkme> ubuntu is hell for gaming*
[11:29] <odat> storkme i run madden on mine
[11:29] <site> all linux is hell for gaming
[11:29] <Storkme> i give up, i'm going to install 32-bit instead
[11:29] <Storkme> someone name a good partition thingy
[11:29] <j2daosh> gparted
[11:29] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, retry the command, it'll work now
[11:29] <Storkme> is it command line?
[11:29] <Pygi> !gparted
[11:29] <ubotu> Pygi: I don't know
[11:29] <j2daosh> fdisk
[11:30] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me c
[11:30] <cajun> i'm having trouble finding the information to mount my HD so that I can access the files.  I'm using the Ubuntu Live CD and cannot access the files installed under XP
[11:30] <Pygi> !ntfs
[11:30] <odat> Storkme, did you get that?
[11:30] <Storkme> get what?
[11:30] <jordo23> Hey all
[11:30] <JoeBlow> cajun: try going to system, administration, and disks
[11:30] <cajun> i'd like to back up information on my other HD so that I can format it and do a dual boot for Xp and Ubuntu on it
[11:30] <odat> Storkme, i play madden football on my ubuntu
[11:30] <Pygi> ubotu tell cajun about ntfs
[11:31] <Inf3ctedFx> nope Seveas  the same thing look --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6614
[11:31] <cajun> disks is not an option under Administration
[11:31] <Storkme> odat, try installing quake4 then ;\ lol
[11:31] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, gpg --recv 70188C3B && gpg --export --armor 70188C3B | sudo apt-key add -
[11:31] <Seveas> don't forget the '-'
[11:31] <odat> Storkme, quake for linux?
[11:31] <Jinkguns> Anyone know of any programs I could use to record my voice and desktop, for making tutorials?
[11:31] <JoeBlow> cajun: hmm, then i dunno
[11:31] <Inf3ctedFx> Seveas:  I'm copy from u
[11:31] <jonny> Pygi.  Got it working.  I just didn't have CVS installed.  Doh!  Thanks for all your help mate.
[11:32] <sander_> hallo
[11:32] <Seveas> no you didn't :)
[11:32] <Pygi> jonny" k, np
[11:32] <Inf3ctedFx> ok the dash - after add at the end right?
[11:32] <Storkme> odat, quake4 for windows
[11:32] <Storkme> someone teach me how to partition please?
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> How do I specify a networked computer on the command line?  As in, cp /home/anthony/test.txt //somewhereonnetwork/backup?
[11:32] <odat> Storkme, are you using cedega
[11:33] <Storkme> gparted
[11:33] <odat> Storkme, use cedega
[11:33] <poningru> how does one play madden on ubuntu?
[11:33] <Storkme> k
[11:33] <Kyral> Cedega?
[11:33] <poningru> oh
[11:33] <poningru> nm
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> What I tried just ended up creating a folder on the local machine the name of which was the IP address I was trying to reference.
[11:33] <odat> poningru, with cedega
[11:33] <poningru> yeah nm
[11:33] <Storkme> odat, it's not on apt-get
[11:34] <Storkme> oh
[11:34] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  mount the networked share
[11:34] <odat> Storkme, try isohunt
[11:34] <Inf3ctedFx> hey Seveas  that number u cpie here is what the key?
[11:34] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  sudo mount -t (smbfs/nfs) -o user=XXX,password=XXX //computername/share /mountpoint
[11:35] <tehdot> Whats the best software for joining together to video clips and editing them to fit on a dvd?
[11:35] <Pygi> freaky: u back?
[11:35] <Seveas> Inf3ctedFx, last 8 characters of the key
[11:35] <Storkme> odat, will it work on 64-bit?
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> kemik: Thanks.  Also, I have them connected via the Gnome Connect To dialogue; does that create a mounted share somewhere or does it work differently?
[11:35] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  dunno how that works.. dont think it actually mounts, but i dont know as i never really use it
[11:36] <poningru> Storkme: what are you looking for?
[11:36] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  it might even go via ssh, for my "fix" you need either a Samba or NFS share
[11:36] <Storkme> something to make quake4 work
[11:36] <Inf3ctedFx> ohhh oks Seveas  cuz I have to do it one by one  dangg
[11:36] <poningru> Storkme: oh
[11:36] <Jinkguns> Anyone know of any programs I could use to record my voice and desktop, for making tutorials?
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> kemik: It is via ssh, but I don't know how that works, just that it did.
[11:37] <picasso> hey guys, i just got a new dell laptop (inspiron 6000) and wanted to install ubuntu on it, dual boot. however it seems that the installer won't let me resize the current NTFS partition?
[11:37] <yanishh> hello ppl
[11:37] <Storkme> odat, how does it work?
[11:37] <Storkme> is it easy to use?
[11:37] <moodog> evening all.
[11:37] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  dont think you can actually mount stuff thru ssh
[11:37] <Storkme> odat, more importantly, is it easy to install? it's 10:37 and i have major exams tomorrow
[11:37] <poningru> Storkme: maybe you should be studying
[11:37] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  i suppose it uses 'scp' over ssh...
[11:37] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  im not too familliar with it
[11:38] <poningru> Jinkguns: hold on I remember seeing something like that
[11:38] <Storkme> poningru, i would have done if quake 4 had just installed and windows wasn't so lame
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> kemik: Okay, I'll tinker around.  I've done samba for something once before, thought I'd check out ssh to see what it did too.
[11:38] <Inf3ctedFx> Seveas:  I dont want to bother u anymore but look these r the errors I'm getting on the public keys -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6615
[11:38] <odat> Storkme, yes
[11:39] <Inf3ctedFx> I add the las 8 numbers but it wont work
[11:39] <polpak> Storkme, cedega is a for pay version of wine (which implements the windows api under linux)
[11:39] <Storkme> oh
[11:39] <polpak> Storkme, you really shouldn't need to use it since quake does support linux natively
[11:40] <Storkme> polpak, tell that to my computer, lol
[11:40] <g0ju> but WoW doesn't
[11:40] <polpak> Storkme, My suggestion is go study for your exams. It might help to come at it from a fresh perspective tomorrow
[11:41] <cajun> since i'm using the Live CD, am i actually accessing the other hard drives?
[11:41] <Storkme> i would never play WoW
[11:41] <Storkme> i have a life :\
[11:41] <tehdot> Whats the best software for video editing?
[11:41] <polpak> cajun, not unless you mounted them yourself (or used gparted)
[11:41] <simonvc> Hey, where can i find a breezy version of automatix?
[11:41] <ompaul> easyubuntu
[11:41] <polpak> !automatix
[11:41] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[11:41] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[11:41] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[11:41] <leftist> i have a process running openoffice but i cannot find it anywhere. how can i kill it killall open* ?
[11:41] <poningru> Jinkguns: stiill looking
[11:41] <simonvc> cheers
[11:42] <ompaul> simonvc, that is for you
[11:42] <simonvc> !automatix
[11:42] <trappist> leftist: try pgrep
[11:42] <polpak> simonvc, you want to use easyubuntu if you use anything
[11:42] <polpak> cajun, ok then you can access them
[11:43] <yanishh> can I have usplash in server install?
[11:43] <polpak> cajun, but the Live CD itself doesn't install anything to them
[11:43] <Pygi> !usplash
[11:43] <ubotu> usplash is probably for your information, about Usplash : if you use a home-built kernel, required options are initramfs & framebuffer, that's all ... don't take any prerequisites used for bootsplash or patches in consideration
[11:44] <leftist> also what do you use for flash in ubuntu? i use nvu for http. is there anything magical in the linux world for flash too? man i tell you, linux leaves windows in the dust. i love it.
[11:44] <Inf3ctedFx> well can anyone tell me how ca I add a public key ??
[11:45] <bit0> hi
[11:46] <cajun> can i burn a CD successfully while running Live?
[11:46] <polpak> cajun, yes
[11:46] <cajun> awesome
[11:46] <cajun> what is a good Burner program that i can get through synaptic?
[11:47] <Inf3ctedFx> cajun: Gnome Baker
[11:47] <Pygi> freaky:?
[11:47] <cajun> k thx
[11:47] <Inf3ctedFx> GnomeBaker
[11:47] <g0ju> k3b
[11:47] <Inf3ctedFx> well can anyone tell me how ca I add a public key ??
[11:47] <EU> does it possible create a Ubuntu bootable CD?
[11:47] <Kyral> EU: thats the Install ISO
[11:48] <EU> yes...
[11:48] <EU> thats it
[11:48] <Kyral> and the Live ISO too for that matter
[11:49] <poningru> Jinkguns: cant find it dude but a gnome dev blogged about it
[11:49] <EU> I think I need a Live CD...
[11:49] <odat> cajun, for what music or anything?
[11:49] <cajun> i've deleted some files off of a mounted HD but they don't seem to have been deleted completely.  what else do i need to do
[11:49] <EU> within my onw configurations....
[11:50] <poningru> cajun: how did you delete it ?
[11:50] <cajun> nevermind.  i couldn't find my trash folder
[11:50] <odat> cajun, you can actually do that right in gnome just open up the blank cd move the file you want on it over then click write to cd
[11:51] <kenneth> Anyone others having problems with firefox 1.5 ?
[11:51] <Cypherus> I get an error when i launch it. :(
[11:52] <cajun> awesome...thx for all your help.  i'll be back, i put the Live CD in my burner...i have to reboot.
[11:52] <sven-tek> kenneth, on what system? what kind of problems?
[11:52] <Inf3ctedFx> Can anyone here give me a hand with PUBLIC KEYS? I'm trying to update my sources.list but is give me an error message here it is --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6615
[11:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> EU: If you want to make your own LiveCD, then apparently Intellibuild is the application you should use.
[11:52] <Cypherus> sven-tek: kernel? im using ubuntu..
[11:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> EU: I haven't done it myself, but it's getting a lot of good recommendations.
[11:52] <Cypherus> downloaded the binaries from the mozilla website..
[11:53] <poningru> cycom: what are you talking about?
[11:53] <sven-tek> hoary, breezy or are you testing dapper?
[11:53] <poningru> Cypherus: ^^^
[11:53] <Cypherus> firefox 1.5..
[11:53] <captainredbeard> anyone know how to use nfs?
[11:53] <captainredbeard> !nfs
[11:53] <ubotu> I guess nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:53] <poningru> !tell Cypherus about firefox1.5
[11:54] <Cypherus> so im not the first one ?
[11:54] <EU> Thanks a lot man!
[11:54] <Jinkguns> How do I check my ip?
[11:54] <poningru> Cypherus: obviously not
[11:54] <Inf3ctedFx> Jinkguns:  ifconfig
[11:55] <Inf3ctedFx> Jinkguns:  also on www.whatismyip.com
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :)
[11:55] <Cypherus> well, thanks guys :)
[11:55] <poningru> yep
[11:55] <EU> I want use it to try a new scanner, before buy it!
[11:55] <poningru> Cypherus: let me know if you have any problems
[11:55] <odat> Gnome will always be the linux desktop because no developer will want to write programs with QT simply because if they ever want to write a commercial program they have to pay when the could just use gtk for free wether they are programming commercially or not
[11:55] <odat> gnome rocks!
[11:56] <Inf3ctedFx> Can anyone here give me a hand with PUBLIC KEYS? I'm trying to update my sources.list but is give me an error message here it is --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6615
[11:56] <odat> little pep rally
[11:56] <odat> lol
[11:57] <moquist_> is there a GUI way to set certain filetypes to be opened by certain applications?
[11:57] <odat> moquist_, what kind of files?
[11:57] <moquist_> *I* can edit a system config file to cleverly use mlpayer instead of totem, but normal people can't.
[11:57] <peter__> how do you upload games to xbox?
[11:58] <moquist_> odat: media files (as I'm sure you realize now :)
[11:58] <Jinkguns> still getting connection refused. I don't know what is the problem, vnc is up at mistune:1 but vnc2swf is getting connection refused when it tries to connect.
[11:58] <hone> hi, I need help setting up a custom kernel w/ lvm partitions
[11:58] <hone> I can't get it to mount them
[11:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moquist_: Right click on the file, select properties, select 'open with' tab?
[11:59] <moquist_> PuMpErNiCkLe: well yeah, but I just want a double-click to use mplayer instead of totem.  and firefox to use mplayer instead of totem.
[11:59] <odat> Jinkguns, vlc  hmm i use mplayer
[11:59] <Inf3ctedFx> I use gxine
[11:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moquist_: Do it my way and it changes the default for all files of that type. :)
[11:59] <BxL> how do I enable 3d acceleration?
[11:59] <poningru> moquist_: right click on the thing
[12:00] <poningru> properties