[12:15] <divansantana> Hello I was wondering if anyone can tell me a bit about the differences of Nomachines nx technology-freenx vs LTSP,Linux terminal server project
[12:15] <divansantana> I would like to setup a terminal server for a company and am trying to pic a technology...
[12:17] <Burgwork> freenx has some legal issues from what I understand
[12:17] <Burgwork> but it is fast
[12:17] <Burgwork> beyond that, no idea
[12:19] <spacey_ki> divansantana, LTSP is nice for the local network
[12:19] <spacey_ki> if you use thin clients
[12:20] <spacey_ki> if you just want to work on the terminal server remotely you can use freenx
[12:20] <spacey_ki> we use both
[12:20] <spacey_ki> you can combine them perfectly
[12:20] <divansantana> howso?
[12:20] <spacey_ki> LTSP works with thinclients
[12:20] <spacey_ki> so the network has thinclients
[12:21] <divansantana> I think freenx is GPL? Just not sure if it is suitable for 500 clients acting as terminal server!
[12:21] <spacey_ki> but if i want to work on the terminal server on my workstation i connect with FreeNX
[12:21] <divansantana> is LTSP project easy to setup??
[12:21] <spacey_ki> never tried 500 clients
[12:21] <spacey_ki> it mostly depends on the server :)
[12:23] <spacey_ki> you probably need several machines or really fancy hardware for 500
[12:23] <divansantana> freenx or LTSP? with Fancy hardware that is?
[12:23] <spacey_ki> both
[12:24] <spacey_ki> because all programs are running on the terminal server
[12:24] <spacey_ki> 500 clients is quite a lot
[12:25] <divansantana> Sorry but why both??
[12:26] <spacey_ki> divansantana, oh you can pick just one
[12:26] <spacey_ki> LTSP is for thinclients
[12:26] <spacey_ki> FreeNX is for remote desktop
[12:26] <spacey_ki> since it have a bit different use we use both
[12:26] <divansantana> ok I think I finally clicked :)
[12:27] <divansantana> Thanks alot for your help!
[12:27] <spacey_ki> np
[12:27] <spacey_ki> gl
[12:28] <divansantana> Thanks!Ciao
[01:33] <mhz> ogra_ibook: F3 is out?
[01:33] <ogra_ibook> f3 ??
[01:33] <mhz> flight 3?
[01:34] <ogra_ibook> naah
[01:34] <ogra_ibook> thats still some weeks to go ..
[01:35] <mhz> ogra_ibook: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3
[01:35] <ogra_ibook> the post reboot installer part was just dropped completely, it'll take a while to sort all missing pieces
[01:35] <ogra_ibook> see the top 
[01:35] <mhz> duh!
[01:35] <mhz> sorry 4 my s2pidity :D
[01:39] <mhz> :)
[02:48] <tinsleyc> Anybody Home?
[02:55] <lucasvo> does anybody know how I have to configure my iptables that it doesn't block nfs/tftp?
[04:53] <Burgundavia> lucasvo, inbound or outbound?
[04:54] <mhz> lucasvo: ping
[04:55] <mhz> lucasvo: jelkner is trying to contact you but he has not your email address
[04:58] <mhz> lucasvo: I pasted the info in PM, sorry but I am almost in the envelope
[04:58] <mhz> bye all
[04:59] <mhz> Burgundavia: sorry, but how do you manage to work that much in the wiki?
[04:59] <mhz> Burgundavia: great work, thx
[09:21] <fischle55> hi there
[10:21] <pc22>  what other plugins for avi files?
[10:40] <jsgotangco> dude you're in the wrong channel
[02:13] <juliux> http://www.wyse.de/product/winterm/archive/3360se.html what do you think about this thinclient?
[02:18] <spacey_ki> it has windows CE on it ;x
[02:18] <juliux> spacey_ki, but this is no problem
[02:18] <juliux> spacey_ki, i get on free to play with it
[02:19] <spacey_ki> :)
[02:20] <juliux> because the 3 evo t20 thin clients dont work because i have no ac adapter for it
[02:25] <spacey_ki> juliux, how are those thinclients priced?
[02:27] <juliux> spacey_ki, no idea
[02:27] <juliux> spacey_ki, check ebay
[02:27] <spacey_ki> :p
[02:27] <juliux> the three evo t20 cost 87 incl shipit
[02:27] <spacey_ki> k
[02:28] <juliux> the ws3360se i get from a friend
[02:28] <juliux> at first only for playing with it
[02:44] <tinsleyc> Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening...
[02:44] <tinsleyc> edubuntu questions this morning
[02:46] <tinsleyc> dhcp is not working correctly. everytime I boot up the system and the diskless client, the ip address given the client by the edubuntu server seems to be being decremented by about 5 addresses.  I have heard of people running out of ip addresses for this reason.
[02:46] <tinsleyc> repeating this for jinty who just joined.
[02:46] <tinsleyc> dhcp is not working correctly. everytime I boot up the system and the diskless client, the ip address given the client by the edubuntu server seems to be being decremented by about 5 addresses.  I have heard of people running out of ip addresses for this reason.
[02:46] <blue-frog> tinsleyc, no release time in dhcp.conf
[02:47] <tinsleyc> 2nd question.  How do you set the default resolution for the not pretty login screen being served up by LTSP; its too high and I am afraid it is going to be a problem for me tonight in a demo I am doing for a child care facility.
[02:48] <tinsleyc> Interesting though, even without the release time, that it is being decremented by 5 and not one.
[02:48] <blue-frog> sry don't know
[02:48] <blue-frog> ah
[02:48] <blue-frog> sry then not much help from then 
[02:49] <tinsleyc> dhcp is not a major issue as I am not going run out of it anytime soon and I know enough about dhcp workings to be more than dangerous, darn right distructive!
[02:50] <tinsleyc> The login screen resolution is a major concern for me though and I will need to figure that one before I go.
[02:50] <tinsleyc> tonight.
[02:51] <blue-frog> stick around u should have an answer from ogra sometime
[02:51] <tinsleyc> One time I did notice that it came up in a lower resolution but then reverted back to 1400X whatever.
[02:51] <tinsleyc> All well within the capabilities of the monitors in my lab environment but won't be at the demo site.
[02:52] <tinsleyc> Help :=))))
[03:04] <spacey_ki> i think the ip lease stuff is mentioned a lot on the maillinglist
[03:04] <spacey_ki> probably can find your answer in the archive
[04:45] <lucasvo> anyone know how I can install the VT1612A sound driver? http://epialinux.org/files/epia_howto/ar01s05.html < is some page, but only for redhat 2.4