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Riddellallee: :)12:03
kozzehm, I just ran it12:03
Riddellkozz: ah well, that's never worked for me12:03
alleeah, and one digikam core developer left before we can make digikam a native package ;)12:03
Riddellkozz: fancy seeing if you can get the knetworkmanager to work?12:04
Riddellkozz: you need a CVS network manager and some other library12:04
kozzmake sure you have NetworkManager running and then run nm-applet12:04
Riddelllibnl12:04
Riddellkozz: or not feeling adventurous?12:05
kozzcan make a try, url?12:05
Riddellkozz: get the CVS network manager, their webpage on gnome.org explains it well12:05
kozzso there is support for kde in the CVS?12:06
Riddellno, hang on12:06
Riddellget  http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/libnl-1.0-pre5.tar.gz 12:07
Riddellcompile and install and copy the .pc file into the package-config directory 12:07
Riddellthen compile and install this http://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/knetworkmanager-0.1.tar.gz12:08
Riddelland let me know if you get it working :)12:08
kozzright, thanks12:09
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Riddellsebas, _Sime: do kde widgets not work with pykde and qt designer?12:59
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kozzwas some work, will continue after some sleep ;)01:25
Riddellkozz: what did you get done?01:30
kozzwell, managed to compile knetworkmanager after a small modification, now I need to compile the cvs of network manager but that requires a newer version of wireless-tools than are available in the repos so01:33
Riddellwell if you have knetwork manager compiled that should be ok01:33
Riddellmaybe the network manager in the repos is newer than when I tried01:33
kozzit didn't work to run with version 0.4.1 of network-manager at least01:33
kozzthe one in the repos01:34
seth_k|lappyRiddell, you still about?02:20
seth_k|lappyI know it's late there02:20
Riddellseth_k|lappy: yes02:20
Riddellgot a meeting in 40 minutes02:20
seth_k|lappyah good02:20
seth_k|lappyI'm fixing polyester, sistpoty had one comment. It's a trivial change, so shouldn't be much to review. I'm reuploading shortly, but I'll need the advocate again02:20
Riddellseth_k|lappy: what was the comment?02:21
seth_k|lappyRiddell, he didn't like orig being changed, so I added a clean:: rule instead02:21
seth_k|lappywhich I agree with, in hindsight02:22
Riddellhmm, right02:24
seth_k|lappyI just finished building it again to make sure it was still correct02:24
seth_k|lappyworks fine, so uploading02:24
RiddellI always change the .orig, as do debian-qt-kde packagers, but MOTU don't seem to like that02:24
seth_k|lappyRiddell, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=139402:31
Tonio_Riddell: http://netswitch.tuxfamily.org/en/index.html02:59
Tonio_qt frontend in the work, very, very interesting ;)03:00
Tonio_Riddell: and it doesn't manage to work only with wifi like wlassistant, but with everything :)03:01
Tonio_a sudo mode for ubuntu is already in it ;)03:03
Tonio_hehe03:03
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Riddellall these network tools, none that really work well03:06
Riddelldistro meeting in #ubuntu-meeting if anyone is interested03:07
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RiddellHobbsee: it's a tight schedule on those meeting so watch but don't interupt on channel is the usual rule03:13
HobbseeRiddell: no problems - i tend to lurk anyway03:13
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Tonio_Riddell: I don't remember who in kubuntu-fr tested it, but it was aparently working really well....03:16
Tonio_anyway, it has to be tested deeply when the qt version is out03:17
Riddellyes03:17
Tonio_we will find a good one one of these days ;)03:18
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Tonio_anyway I'm surprised that there is no guidance tool for the network actually...03:19
Tonio_it should be hard to do in python, compared to some already released tools03:19
Riddellwell we have knetworkconf03:21
Riddellwhich is C++ on perl03:21
Tonio_yes, and interesting because it take advantage of gnome settings tools03:22
Tonio_but not very convenient for wireless....03:22
Riddellno03:22
Tonio_but without those bugs03:22
Tonio_it could be convenient03:22
Tonio_gnome-system-tools sorry ;)03:22
Tonio_networkmanager is a very interesting project also03:23
Tonio_netswitch is the same king of tools that networkmanager03:23
Tonio_except that the developpment seems to go much quicker....03:24
Tonio_Riddell: I've read that the packages version frozen for dapper is in 2 weeks only, is that right ?03:24
Riddellyes03:25
Riddellnot sure when universe upstream freeze or new package freeze is03:25
Tonio_damn, I need to poke motus for my packages hehe03:25
RiddellTonio_: please poke me if there's anything I can do03:25
Tonio_Riddell: you already advocated them, but you're the only one03:26
Tonio_ho Riddell , I will be in the next CC meeting03:26
Tonio_finally I will ;)03:26
Tonio_that means that if for example we have in 2 months a qt version of netswitch, and that it works perfectly, It will not go in dapper ?03:27
Tonio_sad.....03:27
Lathiatnetswitch?03:27
Lathiatah, url above03:28
Tonio_Lathiat: a network configuration tool that looks very promissing according to the people that have tested it03:28
RiddellTonio_: no, that's far too late for dapper but perfect for dapper+103:28
Tonio_it has a command line, and a gtk frontend, and a kde one is in the work03:28
Tonio_Riddell: anyway, breezy had too many bugs, so if a sooner frozing is the solution, that has to be done :)03:29
Riddellyes, that's the idea03:29
Tonio_I assume the goal is to spend tha maximum time debugging... vista about to be released, I gess ;)03:29
Tonio_Riddell: the two profiles will be ready for tomorrow evening03:30
Tonio_for konq03:30
Tonio_then I'll manage to finish the icon for mornfall, but that takes time...03:30
RiddellTonio_: great03:31
Tonio_animation, is really something long....03:32
=== Tonio_ admires guys that do that all day long ;)
Tonio_hum last question, and then I'll leave you alone Riddell 03:33
Tonio_no next version of adept or dapper then ?03:33
RiddellI don't understand?03:33
Tonio_there is a second version of adept in the work03:34
Tonio_so I assume is there is a version frozing in two weeks, it'll not be ready03:34
Tonio_right ?03:34
Riddelladept isn't upstream03:35
Riddellso it follows feature freeze, string freeze etc03:35
Riddellit's an open question whether guidance is upstream any more03:36
Tonio_what do you mean by "isn't upstream" ?03:36
Riddellbut upstream stuff doesn't follow the 6 month release cycle so we freeze that earlier (but e.g. gnome is excempt because it does)03:36
Riddellupstream is random packages we include, adept is made for kubuntu so it's not upstream03:37
Riddellsee DapperReleaseSchedule03:37
Tonio_k03:38
Tonio_ ;)03:38
Tonio_so adept and guidance are exceptions, and can be improved even after the freeze03:38
Tonio_good news03:38
Tonio_going to bed, good night everyone03:43
HobbseeRiddell: is there anything in particular you want tested, at the moment?04:12
RiddellHobbsee: testing daily CDs is always welcome04:13
HobbseeRiddell: *nods* - i was more meaning in terms of programs, but i'll look into that04:13
RiddellHobbsee: you could be the first to test my kickarse port of hal-device-manager to kde04:16
Riddellhttp://kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/kde-hal-device-manager.tar.gz04:16
Riddellpython DeviceManager.py04:16
Hobbseecould be fun, give me a min04:21
seth_k|lappyworking for me, Riddell 04:21
seth_k|lappythe list on the side jumps around in size though, depending on the length of the text in the right panel, which is annoying04:21
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RiddellHobbsee: oh yes, give displayconfig a try too04:30
Riddellin the new guidance04:30
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seth_k|lappyit's in Ubuntu repos04:40
seth_k|lappykde-guidance04:40
Hobbseeok04:41
Riddellrun through systemsettings04:44
seth_k|lappythere'll be a new "Display" option under Advanced04:45
seth_k|lappybtw Riddell, it uses the wrong icon. It should use the standard Display icon04:45
Riddellseth_k|lappy: what does it use?04:47
seth_k|lappyRiddell, I'll screenshot04:47
seth_k|lappyhttp://sethkinast.com/tmp/display.png04:48
seth_k|lappynotice Display icon discrepancy04:48
Riddellyeah I've seen that04:52
Riddellseth_k|lappy: fancy making up an icon made of that monitor with the X logo on the screen?04:52
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=== Hobbsee sees that there's a new version of kmymoney2
RiddellHobbsee: where?05:00
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Hobbseehttp://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html05:01
Hobbseeah, you already did it!05:05
RiddellI did?05:06
Hobbseelooks like it05:06
Hobbseeyep05:06
Hobbseeoh yeah, that's right, cos i did mine on breezy - took me a while to figure out why i wasnt in the changelog!05:07
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seth_k|lappysorry about that, updatedb started and destroyed my computer05:11
seth_k|lappycouldn't even move the mouse05:11
seth_k|lappywhat's a good nicelevel for updatedb? :/05:12
Hobbseei feel like an idiot now...05:12
seth_k|lappyHobbsee, ? :(05:12
Hobbseewas in relation to the bit while you were away - i just tried to upgrade an already upgraded kmymoney2 :P05:12
seth_k|lappyah05:12
seth_k|lappyhehe05:13
seth_k|lappyhappens to all of us05:13
seth_k|lappyI've done it several times05:13
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seth_k_blast it all05:15
seth_k|lappyRiddell, here's that icon for you05:15
seth_k|lappyRiddell, http://www.sethkinast.com/tmp/display/05:17
seth_k|lappyHobbsee, did Riddell bed?05:19
Hobbseeseth_k|lappy: dont know, he didnt say so05:19
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seth_k|lappyspeaking of icons the new Katapult icon is six-ways-from-Sunday ugly05:23
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Hobbseeit is!05:26
Hobbseedown with that horrible icon105:26
=== Hobbsee has already looked for a configuration file to change it, but hastn found one
seth_k|lappyyell at Mez for it, it was his choice to change it05:28
seth_k|lappythe old one was like 1000x better05:28
seth_k|lappyat least05:28
Riddellseth_k|lappy: the old KDE one or the old catapult one?05:29
seth_k|lappyRiddell, it was like an old medieval catapult05:29
seth_k|lappythat one05:29
seth_k|lappybtw that displayconfig icon is linked above, don't know if you saw it05:29
=== Hobbsee would like to be able to specify the icon, but understands that that can be a pain
Riddellseth_k|lappy: thanks for icon, will put it in SVN tomorrow05:30
Riddellcan someone test this for sanity?  http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde-hal-device-manager.tar.gz05:30
Riddellhttp://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde-hal-device-manager_0.1.tar.gz rather05:32
Hobbseehehe05:32
Hobbseefirst one was 404'd05:32
HobbseeRiddell: stupid question, but how do i install it?  just untar it to a specific place, or compile it?05:39
Hobbseehmmm...not compiling...no make file...05:41
Riddelljust untar05:41
Riddelland run ./kde-hal-device-manager05:41
Hobbseeah ha!05:41
HobbseeRiddell: works nicely - what are we testing for?05:42
Riddelljust sanity :)05:42
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Hobbseelooks good to me05:44
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HobbseeRiddell: yep, looks fine to me05:45
Riddellgroovy05:45
Hobbsee:)05:45
seth_k|lappylooks good to me to05:49
seth_k|lappytoo05:49
Riddellhttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33315 ta da05:53
seth_k|lappyyay05:54
Riddellwonder if the hal maintainer will accept it05:57
Riddellhowever, time for bed05:57
seth_k|lappyisn't it 5am there Riddell ?06:01
Hobbsee_awayyay Riddell!06:16
Hobbsee_awaybed?  nah!06:16
seth_k|lappywb Hobbsee :)06:27
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seth_k|lappyI was going to merge the new superkaramba06:27
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seth_k|lappyRiddell, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1395 :)07:39
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jpatrickRiddell: should I repackage YaKuake and provide a patch for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/yakuake/+bug/3209 ?01:39
Riddelljpat|away: is it possible to set an alternative shortcut so there are two?01:49
Riddellcan anyone recreate the timezone problems this guy is having? http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/891601:55
RiddellI use the timezone kcontrol module and it sets /etc/timezone and /etc/localtime fine01:55
RiddellI have breezy CDs!01:56
apokryphoswoot01:57
Riddellif anyone wants some e-mail jriddell@ubuntu.com with your postal address01:58
apokryphosRiddell: are these live/installs or both?01:59
Riddellapokryphos: just install I'm afraid01:59
apokryphosI often just burn them for friends, but would be nice to have some more professional ones. 02:00
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jpatrickRiddell: not sure02:21
jpatrickRiddell: It's possible02:21
jpatrickyes!!02:22
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jpatrickRiddell: AccessKey=F11;F12 ?02:23
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jpatrickhmm.. howto patch it...02:30
Riddelljpatrick: dunno, does it work?02:34
Riddelljpatrick: that accesskey will be set somewhere in the code, grep for F1202:34
jpatricknow there's any idea...02:34
Riddellalthough I don't know how you set alternative keys by default02:35
jpatrickYou choose Change Access Key in the menu02:36
jpatrickok I've found it in the code02:38
Riddellyeah I mean don't know how to set them in the code02:39
Riddellmust be possible though02:39
jpatricktimes like this when I wish my C++ skills were better02:39
RiddellLathiat: poke02:40
jpatrickhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/49168302:43
jpatrickI can only think of changing that Key_F1202:43
LathiatRiddell: yo02:43
RiddellLathiat: CDs are here, shall I send them to your .au address?02:44
tvojpatrick: try duplicating lines 4-6 with Key_F1102:44
jpatrickyes, sir02:45
tvomaybe rename the second instance to "Access key 2"02:45
tvo;)02:45
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jpatricktvo: excellent it works02:59
tvocool :)03:00
jpatricknow to create a .dif03:00
jpatrick.diff*03:00
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jpatrickhow do I apply a .diff.gz to a dir?03:17
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JReanyone has already try to compile kdelibs4_snapshot with breezy ?03:29
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Riddelljpatrick: .diff is made when running debuild03:42
Riddellyou put the .orig and .diff together with dpkg-source -x foo.dsc03:42
jpatrickoh yeah - I forgot03:42
Riddelljpatrick: look at the docs for KGlobalAccell and its parents, there must be a method for setting the accellarator and alternative03:43
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jpatrickyes, sir03:52
jpatrickRiddell: is this a valid .diff? http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/49178104:05
jpatrickthat's kubuntu_01_yakuake.diff^04:06
Riddelljpatrick: yeah, that's one way to do it :)04:09
jpatrickI'm reading the developer docs04:09
freeflyinghttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/491794 04:15
freeflyingkde3.5 crash under breezy04:15
jpatrickRiddell: YaKuake fix waiting upload: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=139804:16
Riddellfreeflying: caused by what?04:16
RiddellMez: poke, can you apply jpatrick's yakuake fix upstream please04:16
Riddellfreeflying, jpatrick etc, want any kubuntu CDs?04:17
jpatrickRiddell: I'll have some (to share out :) )04:17
jpatrickRiddell: only parent KGlobalAccel has is QObject (according to the API reference)04:18
Riddelljpatrick: e-mail jriddell@ubuntu.com with your post04:19
Riddellpostal address04:19
jpatrickright04:19
freeflying_Riddell: can not find the reason  of konqueror's crash04:19
jpatrickfreeflying_: it'll probably be fixed in 21 days04:20
jpatrickKDE 3.5.1!!04:20
freeflying_Riddell:  kubuntu cd is aailiable now ?04:20
_jjesseis that from shipit?04:20
jpatrick_jjesse: no Rideel04:20
freeflying_jpatrick: in breezy ?04:20
jpatrickfreeflying_: Think so04:21
jpatrickRiddell*04:21
freeflying_jpatrick: dose there any works on kde-4 now ?04:21
jpatrickfreeflying_: pardon?04:22
freeflying_Riddell: how can we get kubuntu cd 04:23
jpatrickfreeflying_: by sending your address to him04:23
freeflying_jpatrick: how about kde-4 for kubuntu 04:23
jpatrickfreeflying_: has to be released first04:24
Riddellfreeflying_: I have kubuntu breezy CDs, send me your postal address to jriddell@ubuntu.com and let me know if it's for just you or a LUG/workplace etc04:24
freeflying_Riddell: how many CDs can I get 04:25
Riddellfreeflying_: I have 8000, but you can't have all of them04:25
jpatrickwow04:25
jpatrickRiddell: where's Kubuntu Express being developed?04:26
freeflying_Riddell: a community in china have asked me for CDs to distribute them all over the universities in China 04:26
Riddelljpatrick: it's not yet, but colin is starting work on ubuntu-express so it'll happen soon04:26
Riddellfreeflying_: excellent, how many do you think would be useful?04:27
jpatrickRiddell: ok - I'm just interested in helping out04:27
freeflying_Riddell: may be as much as you can 04:27
Riddelljpatrick: cool, I'll let you know when it starts04:28
Riddellfreeflying_: big box of 500?04:28
freeflying_Riddell: 1K ?04:29
jpatrickfreeflying_: that ought to wipe out Microsoft there04:29
freeflying_jpatrick: hmmm04:29
Riddellfreeflying_: how many universities would you send them to?04:29
freeflying_Riddell:  there are about 28 province in china , and each province have member in the community I mentioned above 04:30
freeflying_Riddell:  every province has about 10-20 universities 04:31
Riddellfreeflying_: can you e-mail your postal address (where you can accept a large box) to jriddell@ubuntu.com04:32
RiddellI need to check with the post office if they can send something like one or two of these large boxes04:32
freeflying_Riddell:  sure . Will canoncial  provide us the shipping fee 04:32
Riddellfreeflying_: you're China (people's republic) yes?04:33
freeflying_Riddell: y04:33
Riddellfreeflying_: they'll provice me with the shipping fee, if you can get me high res photographs of receipts they should reimburse me assuming I can find a way to transfer the money back to you04:34
Riddells/provice/provide/04:34
Riddellfreeflying_: but this isn't shipit so no postings below the small boxes (around 90 in each box)04:35
freeflying_Riddell:  no problem 04:35
jpatrickRiddell: no postings below 90?04:35
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jpatrickyo seth_k|lappy 04:36
Riddellfreeflying_: how could I get money back to you?  I've no idea how chinese currency works04:36
seth_k|lappyhey hey jpatrick 04:36
Riddelljpatrick: I can do smaller postings to kubuntu and KDE developers but this isn't shipit so I need to limlit those04:36
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: I've provided a patch for the yakuake bug04:36
freeflying_Riddell: will pay me into my credit card04:37
seth_k|lappysweetness jpatrick, is it ppc-only (so that everybody else keeps their nice F12)?04:37
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: yes04:37
jpatrickRiddell: I have no money <- will that be a problem?04:38
seth_k|lappyjpatrick, all you need is loooooove04:38
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: Keys are now F12 and F1104:38
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: let's just hope F11 isn't the self-destruct button for PPC04:38
seth_k|lappyhaha04:39
seth_k|lappyso we should ship a default yakuakerc for ppc only04:39
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: I actually patched the source code...04:40
seth_k|lappyjpatrick, to enable F11 && F12 at all times on all arches?04:41
freeflying_Riddell:  you'd better pay the custom revenue 04:42
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: yeah...04:42
seth_k|lappyor to do the happy thing and F11 -> PPC && F12 -> everything else04:42
seth_k|lappyhmmm04:42
seth_k|lappythat's not ideal04:42
seth_k|lappydon't want to waste another accesskey for 386 etc. users04:42
seth_k|lappymeh, I dunno04:42
Riddellfreeflying_: there shouldn't be any since they're 0 value but if it happens and you can get me a high res photo of the receipt that should be fine04:43
jpatrickRiddell: I'll only need a few I think04:45
seth_k|lappyI'm off for a bit jpatrick; I would suggest investigating the arch-dependent targets in debian/rules and adding a ppc rule to install a custom yakuakerc for ppc only :)04:45
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: there is no yakuakerc in the src04:45
seth_k|lappyjpatrick, that's okay; add one in debian/ and then include a rule to copy it to the correct place04:46
jpatrickI thought I could do that04:46
seth_k|lappyRiddell, polyester got into archive last night, so I was inspired to do another ;) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=139504:46
freeflying_Riddell:  If they need ,I 'll contact you 04:47
jpatrickseth_k|lappy: only yakuakerc goes to ~/.kde/share/config/04:48
jpatricknowhere else04:48
jpatrickRiddell: are these free?04:49
Riddelljpatrick: the CDs?  yes04:49
jpatrickoh goody04:49
Riddelljpatrick: just send me your credit card number for age verification :)04:50
jpatrickain't got one04:50
_jjessehe also needs social security # if you have one of those and date of birth04:50
Riddelljje: want any CDs?04:51
jjeRiddell: just sent you an email04:51
jpatrickSo I suppose I'm stuck...04:51
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Riddelljjesse: cool, go it04:53
Riddelljpatrick: I'm joking, please e-mail me your postal address and I'll send you some out at no cost04:53
Riddellseth_k|lappy: want CDs?04:53
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jpatrickRiddell: sent04:55
jpatrick:)04:55
Riddelljpatrick: just for you or do you have a LUG/workplace to hand them out?04:57
jpatrickI could go around giving them out04:58
jpatrickGotta a school to pillage as well04:58
jpatrickand there's the LoCo group04:59
seth_k|lappyRiddell, fun!05:00
seth_k|lappyRiddell, e-mail CC number, or just query05:00
seth_k|lappyoh, you'll need my address too05:01
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seth_k|lappyoh, and you don't want cc number either05:01
seth_k|lappytoo early here...05:01
seth_k|lappy...can't take humour...05:01
Riddellseth_k|lappy: e-mail postal address, let me know if it's just for you or if you want a box to hand out05:01
Riddelljriddell@ubuntu.com05:02
seth_k|lappysent05:04
jpatrickhow big are the boxes?05:06
Riddelljpatrick: 2kg, about 30cmx15cmx15cm05:06
jpatrickwoohoo05:06
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seth_k|lappywhew, 4.5 pounds and a foot by half a foot05:08
seth_k|lappythat's a big box05:08
jpatrickcould leave some at the nearest computer store05:08
Tonio_hi all05:09
seth_k|lappycollege campuses are the best place ever for Linux CDs05:09
jpatrickhey Tonio_ 05:09
Tonio_Riddell: question concerning the profiles in konq05:09
seth_k|lappypeople like anything free, and lots of them are crazy enough to try a wacky CD with dragons on the front05:09
Tonio_do you want the standard toolbar and address bar on the same line ?05:10
Tonio_because that causes an issue...05:10
Tonio_If I do that, I can't use the "context" toolbar05:11
Tonio_that adds buttons of kdpf while browsing a pdf file for example05:11
RiddellTonio_: yes I do05:12
Riddellwhy can't we have a separate context toolbar?05:13
Riddelljpatrick: what are the accents in Carrer Del Tur? De Can Pon?05:13
Tonio_Riddell: the problem is that depending of the kpart in use05:13
Tonio_the bar will go from empty to full....05:14
Tonio_not very easy to place ;)05:14
jpatrickRiddell: Turo <- accent going to the right05:14
jpatrickRiddell: Ponc <- little tail like thing05:14
jpatrickwait a tic05:15
Riddellcedila :)05:15
Riddellacute or grave on the o?05:15
Riddellacute goes up05:16
jpatrickacute05:16
RiddellDavies isn't a very Catalonian sounding name05:17
jpatrickRiddell: that's because I'm British05:17
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jpatrickRiddell: Quarter Welsh, 3/4 English05:20
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wambaughmorning all05:31
Tonio_hum Riddell last question, are we obliged to have the same rc file for all profiles ?05:34
Tonio_actually there is only one05:34
Tonio_konq-kubuntu.rc05:34
Tonio_I think it could be interesting to make a difference between the filemanagement profile and the web browsing one05:35
Tonio_don't you ?05:35
JReTonio_: IIRC, it needs some design modification in Konqueror's code to do so05:36
JReTonio_: not all parameter are stocked in the profile05:36
Tonio_the menu structure is in a file05:39
Tonio_but curently, it is the same for all profiles05:40
RiddellTonio_: do play around with it but I suspect that would cause more confusion for users than anything else05:40
Tonio_hum........05:40
Tonio_options usefull for filebrowsing activated with the filebrowsing profile, but not with the web profile...05:41
Tonio_well, that doesn't sound confusing to me05:41
Tonio_let's make a test....05:41
Tonio_if it is not god, let's forget05:41
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RiddellJRe, Tonio_: want some CDs?05:48
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Tonio_Riddell: why not ;)05:49
jpatrickRiddell: someone's making a http://www.kubuntu-es.org05:49
JReRiddell: yes, with pleasure :)05:52
RiddellTonio_, JRe: e-mail your postal addresses to jriddell@ubuntu.com, say if it just for you or if you want a bunch for LUGs etc05:55
JReRiddell: ok thanks!05:55
Tonio_Riddell: thanks, I'll do toonight ;)05:56
jpatrickRiddell: in kubuntu.org/packages the lastest-* ones was that idea from me?05:59
Riddelljpatrick: not sure, various people were asking for it06:05
jpatrickRiddell: maybe: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2179.006:08
jpatricklmms: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=128006:22
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Riddellwho is volker loechte?07:27
Tm_Tnever heard07:27
jjesseme either07:27
Tm_Thmm, maybe mailing lists know him07:27
Tm_Tnope07:28
Riddellhe just sent me an e-mail asking for breezy CDs so he must be on this channel!07:29
Riddellah hah, Kabelkasper07:31
Tm_T:)07:34
jjessestill haven' heard from him07:34
Tm_Tkaapelijaska07:35
Riddelljust had to write one of those German double s beta symbols for the first time in my life, quite breaks the flow of joined-up handwriting07:36
hungerRiddell: It is not too bad once you get used to it.07:40
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hungerdaniels: I noticed some trouble with some of the X manpages yesterday.08:27
hungerdaniels: They got moved from man3x to man3 but the .so entries still point to man3x/whatever.08:28
jpatrickRiddell: can you accept my lmms? Needs one more MOTU: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=128008:54
Riddelljpatrick: there's already an lmms from debian now I'm afraid09:03
jpatrickah too late :(09:04
jpatrickyou could poke kcontrol-kdmtheme: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1380 :)09:04
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jpatrickRiddell: maybe we could move it to guidence...09:13
Riddelljpatrick: guidance is python stuff only but it is a candidate for being on the CD09:16
jpatrickright09:16
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jpatrickRiddell: I made a mistake in the address11:28
jpatrickRiddell: it's "Turo de Can Ponc 3"11:28
jpatrick(with the accents)11:28
Riddelljpatrick: too late!11:29
jpatrickand I'd like a box to share out11:29
jpatrickcrap11:29
jpatrickthey'll have to track down a Jonathan Patrick Davies11:29
jpatrickbetter go now11:33
jpatricknight guys11:33
sealneRiddell: how are venue discussions going?11:33
Riddellsealne: discussion seems to have run out but the guy organising it says he's not asking for a vote yet11:35
RiddellI think I'll ask why not11:35
sealnehow's it looking?11:36
Riddellpeople haven't expressed much preference for specific places other than "not US"11:36
sealneheh11:36
sealnedoes that include quebec?11:36
Riddellno, quebec isn't in the US :)11:37
sealneyes i know that :P11:37
sealnei've driven past it and i have no intention of going to the us so, i'm fairly certain it isn't in the US :)11:37

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