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poningruthe open with tab12:00
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moquist_To do this on my own system, I had to s/totem/mplayer/ in a config file.  It's totally unreasonable to expect normal users to do that sort of thing, so I'm wondering if there's a "right" GUI way to do it.12:00
BxLI can't run tuxracer :(12:00
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moquist_PuMpErNiCkLe: hmm.  ok, maybe I didn't get what you meant.12:00
Comrade_Sergeiis there a gimp editor for windows>12:00
PuMpErNiCkLemoquist_: If you want, I can post a screenshot.12:00
eyedol59somebody can tell me how i can start gnome from bash?12:00
moquist_ohhhh.  well, that was really easy.12:00
PuMpErNiCkLemoquist_: :D12:01
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moquist_I feel like an intelligent ignoramus, 'cuz I use ion myself and avoid all icons and menus and stuff, so when I try to help normal people with Ubuntu they're using a bunch of interfaces I know nothing about.  :p12:01
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moquist_thx everybody.12:01
odatnp12:01
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recephi, is beta version of ubuntu downloadable?12:02
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Amaranthrecep: ubuntu dapper flight 2 is out12:02
Amaranthrecep: It'll break your toys though.12:02
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recepAmaranth: which toys? all fo them? :)12:02
Amaranthrecep: your computer toys12:02
PuMpErNiCkLemoquist_: Glad to help.  I come from a Mac background, so GUIs seems natural to me.12:03
Amaranthlike, you know, turning on and such12:03
Amaranthit's running a 2.6.15 prerelease kernel with the start of the hotplug/udevd conversion12:03
recepok then what is the safe and most bleeding edge option?12:03
recep5.10?12:03
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honerecep: yeah12:04
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recepcan I enable universe and multiverse and stay safe?12:04
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Comrade_Sergeiis there a the gimp editor for windows12:04
honerecep: yeah12:04
honerecep: I have them enabld12:04
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Belboz99hey, how come I can't empty the trash?12:05
VoXno arms?12:05
Belboz99I've got 0KB free, I need it emptied12:05
PuMpErNiCkLeComrade_Sergei: yes, but as of version 2.2 it only runs on WinNT/2k/XP12:05
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Inf3ctedFxhone: right click on the icon the empty trash12:05
Belboz99tried that12:05
honeInf3ctedFx: ?12:05
Belboz99nothing happened12:05
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honeInf3ctedFx: to do what?12:05
fsnwhere would the grub.conf be located?12:05
PuMpErNiCkLeComrade_Sergei: http://www.gimp.org/windows/12:05
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Comrade_Sergeithanks12:06
Inf3ctedFxsorry hone  it wasn't 4 u lol sorry12:06
recepis gnome 2.12 really better than 2.10?12:06
honeInf3ctedFx: :-D12:06
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honerecep: each gnome revision is an incremental upgrade12:06
Belboz99man, I've gotta empty this trash!12:06
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honerecep: I can't recall off the top of my head what's been improved, but it's just a smoother experience12:06
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honerecep: just my two cents.12:06
titanium_platypuokay I just bought a new video card....I know in windows I need to uninstall the driver of my old one before I physically switch it out.  Do I have to do this in Ubuntu or will it make the needed changes next time I boot it up?12:06
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recepthanks hone12:07
ompaulfsn, /boot/grub/menu.list12:07
honerecep: np12:07
Belboz99do I need sudo rights to empty it?12:07
fsnompaul, thank you =D12:07
VoXBelboz99: go into your .Trash directory12:07
Storkmeodat, pm please12:07
VoXin your home directory12:07
VoXand delete them manually12:07
Ngtitanium_platypu: I think you'll want to reboot into the recovery mode and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:07
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ompaulBelboz99, right click and ask it to delete12:07
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titanium_platypuNg: this is after I switch the card?12:07
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poningruBelboz99: no12:08
Ngtitanium_platypu: yeah, sorry, not reboot, when you first boot after installing the new card :)12:08
titanium_platypuNg: okay, and how exactly do I get recovery mode?12:08
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EUGuys, do you know if the SCANNER HP SCANJET 4670, works fine under Ubuntu?12:08
honetitanium_platypu: use the single option on boot?12:08
Ngtitanium_platypu: when your PC is just starting up it displays the BIOS messages then offers you to press Escape to see a boot menu, do that, it's in there12:08
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titanium_platypuoh, so it's in GRUB as a separate entry?12:09
Ngyep12:09
titanium_platypuokay, thanks very much.12:09
Belboz99okay, thanks12:09
ompaulEU, no idea, I know you have asked that more than once but don't like to say that others don't12:09
Belboz99those hidden directories always get me.  I've got to remember to ls -a12:09
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Comrade_Sergeiok gimme the link for the gimp again it said fatal error illl try again12:10
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Belboz99anyone know why the trash won't empty via the GUI?12:11
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yatesypermissions?12:11
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Deterministeyecandy question: any idea where i can get a nice image to replace the main menu icon? i.e. distributer-logo.png12:11
Raven^hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?12:11
Belboz99yatesy: .Trash is in my home directory12:11
Comrade_SergeiPuMpErNiCkLe can i have it again12:12
yatesyobviously?12:12
holycowBelboz99, usually its because you have a file in there not owned by you12:12
odatanyone have any idea why when i try to upgrade the kernel to 686 on a celeron 1.7 i get a segmentation fault when booting up?12:12
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Belboz99ah, ok holycow12:12
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Belboz99that's right, I deleted a file that was owned by root a few days ago12:12
holycowBelboz99, alternatively once in a while you can try opening up trash, and doing file / empty trash12:12
cajuni'm back.  my burner is not mounted.  what's the command to mount all cdrom drives?12:12
Deterministcajun, there's no command to mount "all cdrom drivers"12:13
Determinists/drivers/drives12:13
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Belboz99I'm still lost as to why 1 root file causes the entire directory to not empty.  Why can't it delete all the files I do have permisisons for?12:13
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zenlunaticmy X has text bleeding and trails when i move its windows... any ideas?12:13
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cmathesonzenlunatic: bad driver?12:14
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zenlunaticcmatheson, i just used the default ones12:14
cmathesonzenlunatic: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the right stuff for your hardware12:15
zenlunaticcmatheson, k12:15
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PuMpErNiCkLeComrade_Sergei: What did you want?12:16
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PuMpErNiCkLeComrade_Sergei: Right, I just scrolled up and found it.  Here ya go: http://www.gimp.org/windows/12:17
son Highlight12:17
son Underline12:18
son Bold12:18
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son Something12:18
zenlunaticcmatheson, should I say yes to "use kernel framebuffer device"?12:18
zenlunaticcmatheson, interface not device, sorry12:18
odatzenlunatic, sure12:18
yatesyBelboz99: so re-write it? :P12:19
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fsnis there anyway to open the menu.lst as root so i can edit it? or do i have to log out and log in as root?12:20
zenlunaticodat, how do i know which modules to load by default?12:20
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odatzenlunatic, which driver did you pick?12:20
yatesyfsn: thats what sudo is for12:20
demonaVerified. Playing an album with XMMS over samba, by the 4th song smbiod is sucking incredible CPU and XMMS needs to be killed. Using mplayer to play over the same Samba mount, it's now almost done playing the album with no unusual load or other problems. Most bizarre problem.12:20
zenlunaticodat, the one for my card12:20
Mootersdoes Ubuntu have gcc and if so where might i find it12:20
odatzenlunatic, and what is the card12:20
odat?12:20
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zenlunaticodat, ati rage 128 pro m312:20
yatesyMooters: type gcc? otherwise get it from apt12:21
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Seveasfsn gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:21
odatzenlunatic, then mark all of the modules to load by default12:21
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cafuegoMooters: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:21
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Mootersim installing vmware-tools for the guest and all I need is the location of it12:21
Mootersok12:21
ComradeSergeisrry kicked the cord of my compurter and it shut off12:21
cafuegoMooters: Then you'll need gcc-3.412:22
yatesyMooters: which gcc12:22
ComradeSergeik can i have the gimp link again?12:22
fsnSeveas, Thank you.12:22
PuMpErNiCkLeComrade_Sergei: http://www.gimp.org/windows/12:22
Mootersany12:22
ComradeSergeithanks12:22
cafuegoMooters: and run CC=gcc-3.4 ./vmware-config.pl12:22
PuMpErNiCkLenp12:22
zenlunaticodat, which color  depth?12:22
cmathesonzenlunatic: sorry i went away, um, don't use the kernel framebuffer device12:22
zenlunaticcmatheson, too late12:22
simonvcHey all, what cmd does ubuntu call to hibernate when you select hibernate from the logout menu?12:22
yatesyMooters: no the command which gcc :P tells you the path to it12:22
cmathesonzenlunatic: oh, is it working? (it probably doesn't matter, i always say no though)12:22
zenlunaticcmatheson, i don't know im going to try it12:23
odatzenlunatic, 2412:23
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odatjenda-zZz, what up?12:23
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dos-assassinI am sitting on a network with 2 other computer, both on Windows XPSP2 OS, and instead of installing my printer, cause its evil and doesn't want to be on my machine, I am going to install it to one of the windows machines... will I still have use of my printer with it being on another machine?12:24
PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: Yes, but you'll have to set up printer sharing on the machine it's connected to.12:25
Belboz99Hey, how do I add an application that uses the "sh" command or the "./" on the panel?12:25
dos-assassinOk can I ask for some guidance on how to do this?12:25
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jenda-zZzBelboz99: add custom launcher12:25
PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: I can help with the Ubuntu side of it... :)12:25
jenda-zZzBelboz99: and then type the whole command12:26
dos-assassinLol... that'll be good enough... I recently switched to Linux so I am just learning how to operate it... but I know Windows like the back of my hand12:26
Belboz99jenda-zZz, what about the syntax?12:26
Belboz99I'm not sure where to put the sh or the ./12:26
jenda-zZzBelboz99: sh /path/of/file12:26
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Avenhello12:27
jenda-zZzhello Aven12:27
Belboz99jenda-zZz, I tried that and it doesn't work.12:27
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jgw_what's the "ubuntu way" of upgrading/apt-getting the 686-smp kernel and uninstall the default kernel cruft?12:27
AvenI'm adding a launcher for a panel... and I want to add synaptic12:27
Avenbut I have to run it as root...12:27
simonvchmm anyone know what command the "hibernate" option in logout calls?12:27
Avenwhat would be the command for it to ask me for a password when it starts running?12:27
jgw_jgw: (on an ubuntu server install)12:27
jenda-zZzBelboz99: how does it not work? try typing it in the term12:27
Belboz99jenda-zZz, does it matter if there is an espace character in the path to the file?12:27
AvenI used 'sudo synaptic' as the command to open it, but won't work12:27
Belboz99escape*12:28
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jenda-zZzBelboz99: YES! You mean a space? If there is, then you have to put the whole path in ""12:28
Belboz99cannot execute binary file12:29
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DRFAven: how about trying gksudo synaptic ? (thats the graphical version of sudo i think)12:29
Inf3ctedFxSeveas:12:29
Belboz99jenda-zZz, it's a "\ "12:29
Avenahh12:29
Avenworks great, thanks12:30
jenda-zZzBelboz99: Then it's a binary file. You first have to make it executable and then run it without sh.12:30
Inf3ctedFxSeveas: one of your repositories wont let me upgrade.. look the error -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/661612:30
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jenda-zZzBelboz99: sudo chmod +x "/path/of/file"12:30
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zenlunaticcmatheson, that didn't help12:32
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zenlunaticcmatheson, does your X do that?12:32
stark-johanhow can I stop a program that have been started from init.d? I have pure-ftpd running but I need it to stop.12:32
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Belboz99okay, this one only seems to work with the "./"12:32
jenda-zZzBelboz99: sorry, gotta go (zZz)12:33
Belboz99k12:33
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Belboz99thanks12:33
jenda-zZznp12:33
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mcscrufflo, can anyone help, it went quite in kubuntu , http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/49099812:34
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dos-assassinPuMpErNiCkLe, you still there?12:34
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Belboz99anyone know how to add an application to the panel that uses "./"?12:35
klippohow can i make usplash work with lilo?12:35
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kemikBelboz99:  uses ./ ?12:35
kemikBelboz99:  specify the entire path ?12:35
SweetestSavagekemik - Actually I want to know this aswell.. for me it's /main/SM/ ./stepmania12:35
ericfagainst what package should I file installer-bugs in the dapper flight2 cd?12:35
Belboz99kemik, yeah, the command is ./fahmon but I can only get it to work from within the application's direcotry12:36
djstdoes anyone have any recommendations for a secure file sharing system in a lan?12:36
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PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: yup12:36
ericfdjst: samba appears to be the standard these days12:36
kemikBelboz99:  so /path/to/fahmon doesnt work ?12:36
zenlunaticdjst, irc12:36
kemikSweetestSavage:  usually you just specifiy the entire absolute path12:36
dos-assassinSo you gonna help me with the Ubuntu part of it? lol12:36
djstbut i've heard that samba isn't that secure12:36
SweetestSavagekemik - How do you mean..?12:37
kemikBelboz99:  or you could add the dir where "fahmon" is in your $path12:37
djsti have tried shfs, but it segfaults when you umount12:37
PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: Ready if you are.12:37
zenlunaticdoes anyone know why there are trails on my X?12:37
Belboz99kemik, it works better without the ./ in the application launcher, but it's missing some files for some reason12:37
cmathesonzenlunatic: no, my X doesn't do that12:37
dos-assassinYep, I got all the time in the world12:37
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cmathesonzenlunatic: what kind of video card do you have?12:37
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klippohow can i have framebuffer working?12:38
klippoit wont accept my vga lines12:38
PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: Okay... it should be fairly straightforward.  Go to 'System' -> 'Administration' -> 'Printing'12:38
zenlunaticcmatheson, rage 128 mobility m312:38
zenlunaticcmatheson, pro12:38
Pygifreaky: ping12:38
dos-assassinOk12:38
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zenlunaticcmatheson, but im on dapper but this happened in breezy too12:38
dos-assassinI got that12:38
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PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: From the 'Printer' menu, select 'new printer' -> 'windows printer (SMB)'12:39
kemikBelboz99:  i'd add the dir to path, or write a small bashscript that u execute from the panel12:39
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PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: (you'll have to select 'network printer')12:39
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kemikSweetestSavage:  you can execute a program like this /home/youruser/foo  <- if foo is a binary12:39
kemik(and foo isin your /home/youruser directory)12:40
RevPeter_hello is there any softwware specialist?12:40
PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: And then fill in the textboxes as required.  Some of that might be auto-detected.12:40
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nagyvHello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?12:40
dos-assassinCool... alright I think I can handle it from here... thanks alot12:40
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PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: Cool :)12:40
RevPeter_my aquaintance want to change OS to ubuntu, but doesn't know is there any kind of adobe creative suite12:40
cmathesonzenlunatic: did you choose the ati driver?12:40
kemikRevPeter_:  there's The Gimp f.ex12:41
zenlunaticcmatheson, yes12:41
SweetestSavagekemik - Ah, alright. I got it, thanks =)12:41
kemikSweetestSavage:  np12:41
dos-assassinJust one more question... once it is installed on the other machine... will I need the driver to use the printer or can I just tell the printer to print and it will work?12:41
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cajuni am unable to change the permissions of some of the folders in my mounted NTFS drive12:42
cmathesonzenlunatic: i'm not sure... i think i have that same card in my laptop but ive never had problems12:43
cajuni've tried chmod and it won't work12:43
RevPeter_does the gimp the complete design environment for print, Web, and mobile publishing?12:43
PuMpErNiCkLedos-assassin: It shouldn't require the driver, as it's not operating the device... windows is doing that, the ubuntu box is just sending the printable data.12:43
cajun"Operation not permitted"12:43
kemikcajun:  you cant write to ntfs12:43
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cajunoh thta's right.  thanks12:43
kemikcajun:  so i guess you cant really change permissions on the file12:43
kemikfiles12:43
dos-assassinSweet... again thanks alot lol... I really needed the use of this printer or it was my ass tomorrow at work lol... much appreciated... later12:43
cajunhow is it that i can delete but can't write?12:43
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kemikcajun:  not sure, never tried to delete files on a ntfs partition..12:45
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kemikcajun:  but i'd recommend you to stop trying ;)12:45
zenlunaticcmatheson: sorry my X froze12:45
cajunok12:45
mcscrufflo, can anyone help, it went quite in kubuntu , http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/49099812:46
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cozhello all12:46
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djstanyone really experienced with how x-servers and remote desktops work?12:46
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djsti'm running a server and i have it running gnome as well, just to be able to virtual desktop to it and launch applications that i want to run over night12:46
djstthe problem is, of course, that it takes up a lot of ram12:47
kemikdjst:  try FreeNX12:47
Jinkgunserrr, how do I make it so this .sh will auto run when I double click on it. :/12:47
craigadjst: use x11vnc or FreeNX12:47
kemikit's supposed to be good12:47
djsti'm using vnc12:47
kemikvnc sucks12:47
kemikits slow and terrible :)12:47
craigax11vnc connects to your current Gnome session and exports it - good for a quick login and logout job12:47
RevPetervmware12:47
djstyeah.12:47
djstis freeNX in the repos?12:47
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kemik!freenx12:47
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ubotufrom memory, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX12:47
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djstbut the thing i really want is not to run gnome at all on the server12:48
craiga...12:48
nagyvHello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?12:48
craigadon't then :) just use ssh12:48
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djstwith normal console apps, you can just use "screen" and leave it12:48
titanium_platypuokay, I'm trying to update the drivers for my video card from Nvidia's website,12:49
La_PaRCaUm, How is freeNX different from vnc or the likes?12:49
djstwhich means i can start a console program using ssh from my laptop, then detach the screen and shutdown the laptop, and the program is still running on the server12:49
zenlunaticcmatheson: you there?12:49
kemikdjst:  just use X and forward x11 packets12:49
djstthat's what i want to do with X programs12:49
cmathesonzenlunatic: yes, occasionally sorry12:49
titanium_platypuand when I run the installation, it complains because "Linux kernel 2.6 accepts only modules that were compiled on the same gcc version as the kernel" and that my Linux kernel was compiled on gcc 3.2 or something like that, but I have gcc 4.0 installed12:49
titanium_platypumy Linux kernel version is 2.8, though12:49
titanium_platypuwhat should I do?12:49
craigadjst: just use the -X switch of ssh ;-)12:49
djstkemik: yeah, but the problem is, when i close the laptop, the program will die12:50
zenlunaticcmatheson: i don't know whats wrong12:50
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kemikyes12:50
djstcraiga: as i said, that will only work as long as the laptop is running12:50
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kemiki see now what you want12:50
craigatrue true , hence ;-)12:50
djsti want to be able to, somehow, do what "screen" does for text apps, but for X apps12:50
craigavnc sounds like your best bet, tbh12:50
RedRoseis there any way to cap or limit the amount of processor power they can take up??12:50
kemikand i *think* you'll have to use FreeNX / VNC or something for that12:50
fsnhow can i change the permissions on /media/windows so users are able to read from it?12:50
ardchoillewhat is the command to list all partitions in cli?12:50
cmathesonzenlunatic: yeah, i'm not really sure... are you sure your monitor settings are all good?12:50
craigaconnect to a real X session with x11vnc, start it up, and close the client12:50
kemikdjst:  afaik there's no "screen" stuff for X-apps12:50
djstkemik: bummer then.12:50
djstwell thanks12:50
zenlunaticcmatheson: i don't know the hz of it12:50
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HrdwrBoByes there is12:51
HrdwrBoBxmove12:51
titanium_platypufsn: maybe change the umask?12:51
cmathesonzenlunatic: can you google it ?12:51
craigaor just start Xvnc and leave it 'backgrounded' with twm or something12:51
kemikdjst:  i could be wrong12:51
cajunthere is a "cdrecorder" directory in my media folder.  i'm guessing that means that my CDR-ROM has been mounted.  but i can't copy files to it using the Nautilus CD Burner12:51
djstanyway, running gnome is a resource hog, but it has this built-in remote desktop thing12:51
zenlunaticcmatheson: yeah i will try that12:51
kemikdjst:  as HrdwrBoB points out :)12:51
HrdwrBoBkemik: djst: xmove12:51
cajunwhat can I do?  I'm using Live at the moment12:51
HrdwrBoBkemik: :)12:51
djstHrdwrBoB: xmove?12:51
djstthere is a solution??12:51
craigadjst: use twm and x11vnc - it's pretty much identical to the gnome session thingy but CLI12:51
craigaxmove is scary12:51
HrdwrBoBdjst: xmove, look it up12:51
djstHrdwrBoB: yay! :)12:51
HrdwrBoBI don't use it12:51
craigaand unstable?12:51
HrdwrBoBbut eh12:51
foxgamerHi all. I'm trying to fix grub on my system to enable me to load ubuntu, but I am having a few problems. Anyone able to help? TIA12:52
craigacajun: what's the problem when you try?12:52
RedRoseis there any way to cap or limit the amount of processor power they can take up?? i have SSH open and some a-holes like to12:52
djm62teleport?12:52
RedRoserun scripts to clog my server12:52
djm62RedRose: deluser?12:52
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djstok, i see that xmove can move a program between x servers, but it still requires an x server to be running12:52
RedRoselol...12:52
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zenlunaticcmatheson: its an lcd12:53
zenlunaticcmatheson: will that make a difference?12:53
RedRoseno, djm62, i want people to use my SSH, but not to crash it...12:53
JinkgunsAnyone know the variable off the top of their head to use x11vnc to capture the desktop at a resolution of 800x600?12:53
RedRosedjm62:i have it open for people to experience the linux power12:53
Jinkgunslike, -geometry 800x600?12:53
djstunless of course there's a null-xserver available, that allows you to trick an X app into thinking it has an x server12:53
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craigaJinkguns: it captures the server at whatever resolution it's currently running at, doesn't it?12:53
ubuntu_hola12:53
cmathesonzenlunatic: maybe just comment out the lines about horizfreq and vertrefresh from your xorg.conf then12:54
foxgamerhey ubuntu_12:54
JinkgunsIs there any way to over-ride?12:54
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HrdwrBoBJinkguns: ...12:54
ubuntu_somebody here speak spanish?12:54
HrdwrBoBJinkguns: take the screenshot, then resize12:54
djm62!es12:54
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:54
HrdwrBoB!tell ubuntu_ about es12:54
navaroneubuntu_,  #ubuntu-es12:54
JinkgunsAh.12:54
Jinkguns-scale 2/3 will scall the framebugger.12:55
fsntitanium_platypu, umask? lol im somewhat new... last time all i had to do was activate it in Administration > Disks and I could see the files in it =/12:55
Jinkgunsso, bah, man owns j0012:55
Jinkguns*scale12:55
nagyvHello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?12:55
foxgamernavarone, Hi. For fear of you running scared, I'm still having problems with the grub. I have got a bit further, but have new errors now.12:56
titanium_platypufsn: sorry, I forgot how to change the umask....I'll look it up12:56
titanium_platypuhang on12:56
zenlunaticcmatheson: okay its set correct at 60hz i found out12:56
fsntitanium_platypu, thanks12:56
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titanium_platypuoh dear, I've forgotten how to do that....I haven't had that issue in a long time12:57
titanium_platypuum12:57
fsnlol12:57
titanium_platypuokay12:57
titanium_platypuI /think/ this is how you do it12:57
titanium_platypulook in your /etc/fstab file12:57
navaroneno luck with intelikey foxgamer ?12:57
titanium_platypufind the entry for the device you want to make readable by all users12:57
titanium_platypu(should be one line exactly)12:57
erUSUL!tell fsn about windowsdrives12:58
foxgamernavarone, Yes, I have managed to chroot into the ubuntu partition, but I have a few errors when trying to reinstall grub -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/661812:58
titanium_platypuand then12:58
titanium_platypuhttp://docs.hp.com/en/B2355-90690/umask.1.html12:58
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titanium_platypugo there12:58
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titanium_platypuand scroll down till you see a list of four-digit numbers12:59
titanium_platypuarranged neatly in a column12:59
titanium_platyputhey have descriptions for what they enable12:59
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titanium_platypuadd up together all the numbers of what you want enabled12:59
navaronefoxgamer, c/p your device.map from /boot/grub12:59
titanium_platyputhat will be your umask number12:59
titanium_platyputhen, in the /etc/fstab file12:59
titanium_platypugo to the line with your device12:59
titanium_platypuand there should be an options section01:00
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titanium_platypuwhere it might have "auto" or "user" or stuff like that, separated by commas01:00
erUSULfoxgamer, try editing device map and putting the missing )(01:00
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titanium_platypuadd another comma and type "umask=<number>" with <number> being the umask.01:00
titanium_platypumake sense?01:00
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fsnyeah01:01
titanium_platypuokay01:01
titanium_platypulet me know if it works01:01
foxgamernavarone, I have it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6619. intellikely re-wrote the device.map and grub.conf for me, but still seems to be problems.01:01
caglarblah, somebody got a joke for me?01:02
titanium_platypubrb01:02
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navaronefoxgamer, how many partitions on the hardrive?01:03
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navaroneyes caglar..."How do you keepa  random chatter in suspense...?"01:03
caglarnavarone tell me :P01:04
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foxgamernavarone, I have 5 partitions in all.01:04
navaronecaglar I'll tell you tomorrow01:04
caglarLOOOOOOOOOOOL01:04
Carlquestion - got ubuntu 64, trying 2 install macromedia flash, don't work, is there a 32 bit linux browser that will run in ubuntu 64?01:04
caglarthat was real fun, i promise! ;)01:04
foxgamernavarone, my fdisk output is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/662001:04
navarone5 partitions?01:04
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nagyvHello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?01:05
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caglarnagyv try ifconfig and tell us if it shows your card01:05
Carlquestion - got ubuntu 64, trying 2 install macromedia flash, don't work, is there a 32 bit linux browser that will run in ubuntu 64?01:06
caglarCarl did you try firefox?01:06
lucasvoCarl: you need to create a chroot01:06
lucasvo!chroot01:06
ubotu[chroot]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457501:06
Carlok01:07
Carlya, fire fox is on here01:07
lucasvoCarl: second link01:07
lucasvohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457501:07
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nagyvcaglar, it does01:09
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Seicherlis gnomefreak still here?01:09
Carlwow, now I'm lost01:09
cozhas anyone used the Pp "Fyre" ?01:10
cozapp Fyre01:10
nagyvcaglar, I have received this: ra0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:81:05:F501:10
nagyv          inet6 addr: fe80::208:a1ff:fe81:5f5/64 Scope:Link01:10
nagyv          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:101:10
nagyv          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:001:10
nagyv          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:001:10
nagyv          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100001:10
nagyv          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)01:10
nagyv          Interrupt:1001:11
Seicherlnagyv: you won't get any friends when u paste those lines in here. use pastebin!01:11
erUSULdo not paste nagyv please01:11
erUSUL!pastebin01:11
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:11
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navaronefoxgamer> try making your device map simply fd0 and hd001:12
nagyvok, sorry: http://pastebin.com/49103301:12
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navaronefoxgamer...my device map has only my two drives shown and none of the extra partitions, swap, windows etc01:13
Jinkgunswtf, ARRR.01:13
foxgamernavarone, Thanks. I'll change it to show those and give it another go. Thanks :)01:13
JinkgunsWhat do I install to allow Audio Converter to convert to mp3?01:13
navaronenp01:14
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navaronenp guarantees tho...lol01:14
navaronenp=no01:14
erUSULnagyv, try dhclient ra001:14
foxgamernavarone, Anything is worth a try at this point. hehe01:14
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yaaarword01:15
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stark-johanhow can I get a list of PIDs so that i kan use "kill" on the correct pid?01:15
JinkgunsAnyone, what do I install so Sound Converter can Convert to mp3/01:15
nagyvduring dhcdiscover the led should blink? shouldn't it? (it does not)01:15
paulproteus|laptstarps ax01:15
paulproteus|laptstark-johan: ps ax01:15
navaronefoxgamer> my device.map --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/662101:15
paulproteus|laptor 'pidof progname'01:15
googlahstark-johan: skriv "ps aux" eller "top" i terminalen. ;)01:16
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stark-johanthanks och tack01:16
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sagarpi downloaded all the codecs from the mplayer site, but where do i put them? /usr/lib/win32?01:16
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foxgamernavarone, Ah. That makes sense. Thanks for that. As soon as I have finished this other job, I'll reboot and see if it works. :)01:17
googlahcan somebody please help me configuring my wlan!? the device working. its possible to scan networks, but i cant get any contact with my router.01:17
navaronefoxgamer,  okily dokily01:17
erUSUL!tell sagarp about w32codecs01:17
MootersWhat would be the directory of C header files that mach my running kernel? (still use 4.10 (Warty Warthog) i know its old)01:17
googlahthe channel is always on 0. i dunno why. trying to change it but i cant.01:17
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cajuni'm having issues setting up my network.  i need to allow files to be shared so that my other computer can copy them01:17
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ubuntu_hey hey!01:18
cajuncurrently this computer requires the other one to use a password that i did not set up for access01:18
Seicherlanybody willing to help me with my samba-share-mounting-problem?01:18
caglaranyone with a weblog here? want to read a blog :P01:18
ubuntu_its my first time on ubuntu!01:18
nagyvgooglah, isn't your router configured to allow inly registered cards?01:18
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fsnubuntu cant play .mp3 files? or do i have to install something so i can?01:18
bimberiubotu tell fsn about mp301:18
googlahnagvy; no.01:18
erUSUL!mp301:18
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:18
bimberiwelcome ubuntu_ :)01:19
navaronecaglar...have you read old hardcore gamer blog?  69 year old grandmother who plays 10 hrs a day and curses like a sailor...lol01:19
ubuntu_hwllo01:19
ubuntu_!!01:19
ubotu??01:19
Seicherllol01:19
fsnthanks, for the info01:19
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ubuntu_i need some help , i dont know how this works!01:19
ubuntu_i have ubuntu 5.1001:19
nagyvthe results of "dhclient ra0" can be reached at http://pastebin.com/49103901:20
Seicherli need some aswell, but noone is willing to answer my question since hours01:20
googlaheverything is set and clear. i can find the network during a scan, but i cant connect to it!01:20
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ubuntu_Seicherl you noob like me=?01:20
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Seicherlyep01:20
Seicherlsometimes01:20
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ubuntu_ok hehe01:20
ubuntu_i just orderd an computer01:20
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ubuntu_from an store01:20
Seicherlespecially in running linux as client.01:20
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googlahi have even no encryption but i cant connect anyway.01:20
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Pygiping freaky01:21
ubuntu_seicherl you running live CD??01:21
Seicherlgooglah: checked the mac-adress?01:21
Seicherlnope. 5.10 install01:21
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ubuntu_i jus trunning live CD01:21
ubuntu_where you from01:21
Seicherlaustria.01:21
ubuntu_ok ns i am from sweden01:21
ubuntu_you play computer games??01:22
Seicherlyes, but i'm not sure if we should talk that much rubish in here.01:22
ubuntu_hahaha01:22
ubuntu_i iam just woried01:22
Seicherli'd rather like somebody to help me with my client01:22
erUSUL#ubuntu-offtopic01:22
sagarpman i installed the w32codecs package, but wmv files still dont play01:22
SealyDavei cant use my background configuration frame (all white) for setting wallpaper in KDE, any suggestions01:23
ubuntu_i just worried if i can play the games i want to play in here01:23
nagyvSeicherl, what are you doing to mount it?01:23
erUSULsagarp, have you tried with xine?01:23
Seicherlfstab01:23
SeicherlI don't know how to handle this error: "smbfs: mount_data version xxx is not supported"! Any suggestions?01:23
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sagarperusul, no, i tried just now with mplayer and it plays, but not totem01:24
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_Gandalf_hello, actually i have a little problem which i couldn't figure out the reason of it, I have a laptop which has a widescreen 1280 x 768, i managed finally to see the screen on an external 1024 x 768 monitor but i have to change resolution to 1024x768, now the problem is whenever i try to play a video, on my laptop LCD i can see it, but on my CRT screen all i see is a blue window, i don't see any video :( , here's my xorg.conf ->01:24
_Gandalf_ http://pastebin.ca/3579201:24
googlahdamn, whats wrong? i can see the network during a scan but cant connect.01:24
googlahthats the only problem.01:24
foxgamernavarone, Hiya. Guess what? No luck. Still getting the error 13 message. This is getting slightly frustrating. hehe01:24
ubuntu_how to see witch games who is not working on UBUNTU!!!01:24
ubuntu_i play games01:24
Seicherlgooglah: checked the mac-adress? are they blocked maybe?01:24
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ubuntu_i Convert if the games i working ;)01:25
erUSULsagarp, install gstreamer0.8-pitfdll01:25
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sagarperusul, oh that worked thanks man01:26
Seicherlnagyv: any suggestions?01:26
erUSULsagarp, np01:26
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nagyvSeicherl, nop.01:26
JinkgunsWhat driver should I use to output, using mplayer?01:26
llbruawhat is the best program for playing AAC and MP3 files on ubuntu?01:26
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Seicherlnagyv: oh01:27
googlahSeicherl; checked the mac-adress? why is that necessary? just wanna establish a contact with the router.01:27
nagyvSeicherl, I would suggest you to connect first with basic commands instead of useing fstab. Whether you can see the share, and so.01:27
Seicherlgooglah: have you blocked mac-adresses?01:27
navaronefoxgamer, I dunno what to tell you...:/01:27
[cro] smileyhi all01:27
googlahSeicherl; nope.01:27
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Seicherlnagyv: i can connect and see via kde.01:27
caglarJinkguns I use xv01:27
dos-assassinAnyone know how to install Yahelinux on this OS?01:27
Seicherlgooglah: what router?01:28
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googlahi think the problem is on the computer. i even can't change the channel. ;/01:28
Seicherlgooglah: I mean the model or producer01:28
foxgamernavarone, I just thought that if I changed that file, I might need to grub-install again, so I did, now I have the message that's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6623. I think it seems to have installed okay. What do you think?01:28
googlahSecherl; it's an belkin pre-n router.01:28
nagyvSeicherl, try smbtree for example. And so on. Approach the mounting problem step, by step.01:28
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kalinhi pals01:28
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googlahseicherl; i've tried everything.01:29
Seicherlnagyv: ok, i don't know what it is, but i'll try01:29
Jinkgunswoohoo01:29
Seicherlgooglah: ok, don't know that company. If it was a netgear i wouldn't wonder ;)01:29
kalini would like to know if it's possible to play starcraft over linux01:29
dos-assassinPuMpErNiCkLe, you still in here?01:29
nagyvSeicherl, as a very user friendly frontend you can also try to use smb4k to browse your samba network01:29
Mooterswhere are the C header files stored for the kernel?01:29
nagyvSeicherl, it can happen that it will have some more useful infos.01:30
Seicherlnagyv: what i get is a tree of the workgroup and all shares.01:30
navaronefoxgamer are you on a mac?01:30
foxgamernavarone, No. Just a pc.01:30
Seicherlit uses the servers name, not the ip. could that be a reason?01:30
nagyvSeicherl, no.01:31
Seicherldamn01:31
navaronefoxgamer> wtf is with the xfs error? isn't that the mac fs ?01:31
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Seicherlwell... so i'm no bit wiser01:31
erUSULnavarone, no is a linux fs mac uses hfs afaik01:31
sinnavarone, thats hfs01:31
foxgamernavarone, I have no idea. I have only just started with linux and I am only on the first chapter of my linux book! lol01:31
defendguinhey ai turned on my computer today and the sound doesnt work.  it worked yesterday01:32
kalini would like to know if it's possible playing atarcraft on ubuntu?01:32
navaronefoxgamer...you pasted extra part on second portion of device map...root@local host part01:32
dos-assassinDoes anyone know how to install Yahelinux on Ubuntu OS?01:32
Seicherlnagyv: I'm just wondering cause syslog tells me that "mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported"01:32
nagyvSeicherl, you will understand this. I don't know what it says, but it is in german. http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/post/3818/lastpost.html#post381801:32
Kyraldos-assassin: Ubuntu is Linux01:32
navaronefoxgamer clear that part and try again with grun install01:32
navaronegrub*01:33
dos-assassinYahelinux... the yahelite version for Linux01:33
foxgamernavarone, Sorry, that is just the output of the terminal. The [root@localhost ~] # is just the prompt.01:33
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navaroneokie01:33
Kyralwhat is yahelite?01:33
zenlunaticcmatheson: you there?01:33
dos-assassinA yahoo chat client...01:33
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navaronefoxgamer give a check anyway...<s>01:34
Seicherlnagyv: man, i could have known myself...01:34
titanium_platypufsn, how's it going?01:34
kalinis it possible to play starcraft on ubuntu?01:34
nagyvSeicherl, what?01:34
Seicherlnagyv: LOL! Not only a noob sometimes, I'm even stupid!01:34
Kyraldos-assassin: Use GAIM01:34
titanium_platypuokay, how do I install a kernel source package for Ubuntu 5.10 with the following kernel version01:34
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Seicherlnagyv: apt-get install smbfs01:34
fsntitanium_platypu,  worked perfectly thanks =D01:34
nagyvhmmm lololololololol01:34
titanium_platypuyay01:34
titanium_platypunp01:34
titanium_platypu:)01:34
fsnnot im just getting it to play .mp3's lol01:34
foxgamernavarone, The file is fine. Just the way it should be :) This is the furthest I have got yet, so I am going to try a reboot. Wish me luck! lol01:35
titanium_platypufsn: google for "Ubuntu Starter Guide"01:35
titanium_platypuclick the first page that comes up01:35
titanium_platypuall kinds of tweaks and stuff (including mp3 support) are in there.01:35
Seicherloh man... I should stop hacking this machine after so many hours...01:35
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titanium_platypu2.6.12-10-38601:35
titanium_platypuhow do I get a kernel source package installed for that version?01:35
fsntitanium_platypu, yeah i already did the repositories or whatever they are called, now just need to get the music player to show up lol... it just says starting but never opens01:36
jdierrunning xfce/ubuntu - every time it boots it is running nautilus for the desktop and I have to do a # killall nautilus followed by a # xfcedesktop01:36
nagyvSeicherl, I think you owe me one! Have a good night, and find someone to solve my wifi problem. :)01:36
Seicherlnagyv: whats your wifi problem?01:36
titanium_platypufsn, did you install xmms?01:36
jdiersometimes I do not get my right click xfce menu back01:36
Seicherlnagyv: yes, the beers go on me01:36
dos-assassinI am using GAIM but I would like to use Yahelinux for the voice client and because it has alot more tools for Yahoo01:37
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nagyvAustrian beers, do I remember well? Sorry, but I prefer the Hungarian wines.01:37
fsntitanium_platypu, no, i was going to try to use the music player that came with ubuntu but i think ill end up installing it lol01:37
navaronejdier...when you are logging out make sure no naultilus session is open and check the save session box as you are going to logout01:38
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Seicherlnagyv: Austrian wines are also great. white or red?01:38
nagyvI have a wifi which is recognized by the system, but I can not get it working. When I try to enable, it remains without "blinking".01:38
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navaronejdier...also make sure each desktop has no running instances of the prog01:38
Seicherlyou mean the interface?01:38
titanium_platypufsn, if you're referring to rhythmbox, it sucks01:38
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xenomorfhello..01:38
nagyvyes. it is a pcmcia card.01:38
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xenomorfi got a question here...01:39
jdiernavarone - I will try it.  what do you mean "instances of the prog"?  do you mean nautilus?  I can check with # top, yes?01:39
Seicherllaptop... you tried another pcmcia-card so you can be sure that the slot is working?01:39
fsntitanium_platypu, yeah, but im already installing xmms, much easier following the guide (tried download from xmm's site and it whent horrible i just gave up lol)01:39
navaronetitanium_platypu, the thing I like most about r-box is just the simple burning of playlists...other than that I use xmms01:39
titanium_platypujust do "sudo apt-get install xmms"01:39
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navaronejdier...make sure you don't have any nautilus windows open01:40
titanium_platypunavarone, I suppose....I could never get it to do anything right though01:40
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apokryphosnoo, why xmms? :/01:40
gratuitbeep-media-player is like xmms, but better01:40
nagyvIt was working today morning. (Yesterday, actually.)01:40
foxgamernavarone, It's worked! By gum it's worked!01:40
titanium_platypuum xmms is like 73h r0x0r01:40
apokryphosanything is better than xmms01:40
apokryphos:/01:40
Seicherlhmmm... did you change anything?01:40
xenomorfwhen i type sudo apt -get something... i got error message: apt command not found01:40
CanYouHelpMePlzhi i have a problem with ubuntu, everything runs fine on the desktop but when i reboot it switches to a text mode after completeing all the checks, the only way i can get into a login screen is by hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and waiting 10 minutes, can i get some assistance please, much appreciated01:40
titanium_platypuxenomorf: it's apt-get, not apt -get01:41
titanium_platypuno space01:41
foxgamernavarone, Thank you SO much for all your help. I appreciate it fully. Now to tidy up the system so it doesn't happen again :D01:41
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xenomorfoh.. i'll try..01:41
titanium_platypulol ;)01:41
navaronetitanium_platypu, I know...it took a awhile for me to get it to even play the files...it would just happily skip thru library putting "!"'s at the file names...but I downloaded the full support package for alsa,oss,esd etc...all in one and maybe that helped01:41
titanium_platypuo_o01:41
xenomorf1 more thing..01:41
nagyvLater my system crashed. ACPI is a shit, and it was working for 5 minutes, when it told me 0 minutes left. Ones everything was frozen, but still light. I had to reboot. From that time I don't have a wifi.01:41
titanium_platypuI'd rather just get xxms, have it be a much more compact player, and have it work right away01:41
xenomorfafter i installed gcc...01:41
xenomorfwhen i type gcc at the terminal.. same thing command not found.. why?01:42
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navaronefoxgamer...good...now do you havea  floppy drive? if so I would make a floppy boot disk01:42
titanium_platypuhm....01:42
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titanium_platypu"command not found" or "no input files"?01:42
foxgamernavarone, No I don't. Can I put one onto cd?01:42
titanium_platypuxenomorf, that is01:42
nagyvI don't have other pcmcia cards, but this one is recognized, so I think it should work.01:42
Seicherlnagyv: did you change anything since yesterday?01:43
xenomorfactually it's bash:command not found... or something like that..01:43
titanium_platypuoh, okay....01:43
titanium_platyputhat's odd01:43
titanium_platypuit should be finding it if you installed it;01:43
titanium_platypu.*01:43
xenomorfit means gcc doesnt exist at all..01:43
nagyvSeicherl, Nothing. The pastebin of my ifconfig and dhclient are at http://pastebin.com/49103901:43
navaronefoxgamer I don't see why not...but I dunno how to "burn" it on a cd...if you figure it out I would suggest getting one of those business card type one...the small cd's that are like 23mb or summin01:43
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googlahwoho, just suceeded to crash my fresh install of ubuntu. :o)01:43
foxgamernavarone, I shall look into getting that done right now before I touch anything else. lol. Again, thanks for your help. I'm sure I'll return in the near future! hehe01:44
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nagyvgooglah, you are so great! :)01:44
fsnhmm, i get no sound with xmms =/01:44
googlahnagyv, yeah i know!01:44
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googlahheh.01:45
navaroneokie foxgamer01:45
CanYouHelpMePlzhi i have a problem with ubuntu, everything runs fine on the desktop but when i reboot it switches to a text mode after completeing all the checks, the only way i can get into a login screen is by hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and waiting 10 minutes, can i get some assistance please, much appreciated01:45
Seicherlnagyv: That tells me absolutely nothing01:45
googlahbut the damn wlan wont work. been fighting it for a couple of damn hours now! :(01:45
titanium_platypuwhen I say "apt-get install kernel-source" it gives me three versions to pick from01:45
titanium_platypunone of them are my kernel version01:45
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titanium_platypuwhat do I do?01:45
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Seicherlnagyv: It just says that there was absolutely no traffic on ra0.... but the dhcp-stuff makes me nervous01:46
PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: Does it print out any error messages?01:47
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navaronehmm...is this day of the blind or braille or something? google.ca has their name in braille...lol01:47
nagyvSeicherl, exactly. And that it won't get an IP when requested. Although nothing has been changed.01:47
Seicherlnagyv: why is it DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7? I mean the adress actually is not a real adress, is it?01:47
gratuittitanium_platypu: do you need the source or the headers?01:47
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titanium_platyputhe source01:47
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titanium_platypuso I can install Nvidia drivers01:47
GranisHello. I have problems getting ubuntu to boot with an NFS root. The nic works, it gets an IP and the NFR root information from the dhcp. I have verfied that it connect to the NFS server to the rpc service, but it still fails with the error message "NFS over TCP no available at x.x.x.x". Any ideas?01:47
nagyvSeicherl, I don't know. I think this is the general way how it works.01:47
gratuittitanium_platypu: you only need the headers01:47
Seicherlare you sure that it is trying to connect to the server correctly?01:47
titanium_platyputhe headers are already on there....01:47
titanium_platypuand the driver installation complains that it can't find kernel source.01:48
nagyvno. But I have no better ideas.01:48
Seicherlhow did you get that dhcp-output`01:48
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CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: none at all01:48
nagyvwith the command "dhclient ra0"01:48
gratuittitanium_platypu: do you have a sym link at /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/<header dir>?01:48
JinkgunsAny ideas on how to get firefox to play nice with a .swf with embedded mp3?01:48
jdiernavarone - this time no nautilus desktop running, but also no xfcedesktop.  I did a # xfcedesktop and I am back up and running.01:48
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jdierany idea how to get xfcedesktop to run at startup?01:48
GranisI can manually add the NFS root if boot locally without any problems.01:49
Seicherlok.... i get almost the same. so that's right (although it looks wierd)01:49
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PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: Ubuntu has several 'virtual' terminals, and it only uses one for a graphical logon.  You can switch between them by hitting alt+F1 - F7.01:49
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gratuittitanium_platypu: and you don know that the nvidia modules are in the linux-restricted-modules package right?01:49
CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: so when it boots i can hit alt+f1 ?01:49
gratuittitanium_platypu: so there is little need to build them01:50
PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: Next time you reboot, check all of them for a graphical logon.01:50
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CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: ok alt f1-f701:50
PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: alt+F1, alt+F2, alt+F3......01:50
CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: ok thanks.01:50
nagyvI really have to leave now. Have a good night! Bye!01:50
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titanium_platypugratuit: the only thing in my /usr/src/ directory is an "rpm" directory.01:50
Seicherlbut i get a Discover to 255.255.255.255, then an OFFER from the server, then a request to 255.255.255.255, then a oack from the server01:50
Seicherlok, CU01:50
PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: If they're all empty, logon from the command line and type 'startx'01:50
Seicherloh, already gone01:50
gratuittitanium_platypu: then you don't have the headers installed01:50
titanium_platypuit says I do01:51
titanium_platypu-_-01:51
titanium_platypuI guess it lies01:51
Seicherllooks like his mum came in ;)01:51
CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: thats the thing i have no command line01:51
PuMpErNiCkLe...01:51
titanium_platypulet me show you what I mean, gratuit:01:51
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titanium_platypucaleb@calebs:~$ dpkg -l *kernel*01:51
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titanium_platypuI type that01:51
PuMpErNiCkLeIn what sense?  A completely blank screen?01:51
dagreeneubuntu01:51
SeicherlCanYouHelpMePlz: I'm sure you have but you don't know01:51
titanium_platypuand one of the resulting lines is:01:51
titanium_platypuii  linux-kernel-h 2.6.11.2-0ubun Linux Kernel Headers for development01:51
xenomorfwell.. it works now...01:51
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navaronejdier...are you using ubuntu with gnome installed or just xubunut?01:52
titanium_platypucaleb@calebs:~$ ls /usr/src01:52
titanium_platypuand all that appears is "rpm"01:52
SeicherlCanYouHelpMePlz: sorry for that... i had to.01:52
CanYouHelpMePlzSeicherl: it's ok.01:52
xenomorfbefore that i used sypnatic package managet to install.. didnt work..01:52
titanium_platypuwhat now?01:52
SeicherlCanYouHelpMePlz: my evil twin is taking over01:52
Toma-titanium_platypu: youre looking for the src?01:52
jdiernaverone - ubuntu with gnome and xfce installed01:52
googlahquick quick question. is it "auto wlan0" or "wlan0 auto" in /etc/network/interfaces ?01:52
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xenomorfafter i used apt-get.. works..01:52
Toma-googlah: auto wlan001:52
titanium_platypuI need kernel source.  The nvidia driver installation says I need to have kernel source installed.01:52
googlahthanks.01:52
navaronejdier...at the logon screen you should have option when you chose xfce to make it default01:53
Seicherldamn... too slow with the interfaces....01:53
CanYouHelpMePlzSeicherl: lol01:53
Toma-titanium_platypu: i do believe its /lib/modules/kerfnelnumber/kernel/ or build/01:53
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KratosHi01:53
Awalhey I have two ethernet interfaces connected and when I bridge them I cant connect to the internet. can anyone help?01:53
jdiernavarone - I can do that fine.  It is once that it starts that I do not have a background or a right click desktop menu01:53
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titanium_platypuI think that's just modules, Toma-01:54
Seicherlok guys... my ubuntu is running, i got my shares... i go to bed (after i checked my windows-partition if its still working after the shrinking)01:54
Toma-titanium_platypu: ok. well whats the package name?01:54
titanium_platypuI think it's kernel-source01:54
SeicherlAwal: you want to build up a router?01:54
Awalyea01:54
Toma-titanium_platypu: run 'apt-file list <packahename>'01:54
Awalwell firewall01:54
titanium_platypubut when I do "apt-get install kernel-source" it gives me three versions to pick from01:54
titanium_platypuand none match my kernel version.01:54
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Toma-itll spew out where all the files are01:54
KratosI'm wondering how I can get Ubuntu Hoary installed on an older machine. It's an old Intel Pentium Pro. When I try to boot from install disk I receive an error message.01:54
SeicherlAwal: that's the same in that case01:54
titanium_platypuToma-, I don't even have the package installed....01:54
titanium_platyputhat's what I'm trying to do.01:55
Awalyea ok01:55
Toma-titanium_platypu: you dont need kernel source, you need kernel-headers01:55
SeicherlAwal: you have to set iptables01:55
bimberititanium_platypu: "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"01:55
titanium_platypuwell I have kernel headers installed01:55
Awalno im kinda a noob01:55
Granistitanium_platypu perhaps add universe to the apt sources01:55
titanium_platypuwhy won't the nvidia install work?01:55
navaronejdier...xfce has minimal menus...try left clicking on desktop or even middel clicking if you have middle button...if not try both buttons at once. I have xfce installed as well but I rarely use it so I am not too up on it01:55
SeicherlAwal: can you connect to the internet?01:55
stoneagenobody need a kernel!01:55
xenomorfcan someone tell me how to compile a c++ file using kdevelop?01:55
Awalyea01:55
Awalim on the computer right now01:55
titanium_platypuoh okay01:55
titanium_platypuI'll try that, bimberi01:55
SeicherlAwal: ok. great! congratulations!01:55
Toma-titanium_platypu: why not use the nvidia packages that are pre-compiled?01:55
Awalbut the bridge wont work01:55
SeicherlAwal: when i worked on that it took me hours to get that far01:56
titanium_platypuToma-, it didn't find one.01:56
Toma-!nvidia01:56
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:56
SeicherlAwal: let me think a moment. I did so a couple of weeks ago.01:56
Toma-read that ^01:56
Awalwell when i bridge them I can connect on the other computers behind it, just not on this one01:56
jdiernavarone - thanks for the help.  My problem is that when xfce starts I do not have any desktop menus (right, middle, or left) and the xfce wallpaper is not there.  basically there is a program called xfcedesktop which I cannot get to run on boot.  I boot, then type xfcedesktop & at a command prompt and all is good.  again thanks for the effort01:57
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SeicherlAwal: you mean, you can connect from firewall to client or what?01:57
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SeicherlAwal: you mean a ping? or a connection? what kind of connection?01:57
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Awalthe firewall computer wont connect to the internet when bridged01:57
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Awalbut the others behind it can01:58
Awaljust any kind i guess01:58
SeicherlAwal: thats funny01:58
navaronejdier do you boot straight to gnome when you use it?01:58
Awalsure to you, but it is really pissing me off01:58
titanium_platypuokay, I'll try installing now.01:58
titanium_platyputhanks everyone.01:58
SeicherlAwal: you got an iptables-script somewhere?01:58
jdierno, to xfce01:58
Toma-crazy people and their crazy compiles :D01:58
Awallike firestarter?01:59
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with my printer? printing out test pages works, but when i try to print out something with abiword it spits out blank paper01:59
SeicherlAwal: what did you use to set up the bridge?01:59
Awalbridge utilities01:59
Awalbrctl01:59
Awalcommands01:59
SeicherlAwal: mhmhm...01:59
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SeicherlAwal: whats your interfaces file look like? something like ppp0 <blabla> eth0 <blabla> eth1 ...?02:00
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StarbuckZeroDid anyone have the problem where the nvidia driver doesn't load after reboot?02:01
Awalumm02:01
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Awali dont know02:01
Awaleth1 is from the modem02:01
SeicherlAwal: goto console02:01
Awaleth0 to the router02:01
Awalk02:01
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Seicherltype this: less /etc/network/interfaces02:02
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SeicherlAwal: did you say router?02:02
Awalyea02:02
Seicherla dsl-router?02:02
Awalwait, no switch02:02
Awalhub02:02
Seicherlor02:03
Seicherlok02:03
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robzonhey02:03
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with my printer? printing out test pages works, but when i try to print out something with abiword it spits out blank paper02:03
KratosI'm trying to run Hoary from Live-CD on a vintage machine. Specs are: Intel Pentium Pro 200Mhz, 128MB EDO, LG CD-RW Drive. I get the following error message: ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16 isolinux: Loading spec packet failed trying to wing it... isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM device; boot failed.02:03
Seicherlso the fw should establish the connection that is shared to the network?02:03
Awalyea02:03
Seicherlok.02:03
Awalhere :# The primary network interface02:03
Awaliface eth1 inet dhcp02:03
Awalauto eth102:03
Awaliface eth0 inet dhcp02:03
Awalauto eth002:03
robzonI want to upgrade to dapper... will it be enough if I simply s/breezy/dapper in sources.list?02:03
SeicherlPLZ do not paste in here02:03
CanYouHelpMePlz!printer02:03
ubotuprinter is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org02:03
Awalsorry02:04
Jinkgunshttp://www.deranged.net/~jetman877/in.html <--- Any idea why my cursor is messed up?02:04
Seicherl!paste02:04
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:04
Seicherltake the first one02:04
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PuMpErNiCkLerobzon: To upgrade, type 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.02:04
robzonI've changed sources to dapper drake and synaptic wants to remove packages like hotplug and I'm not so sure about it02:04
markus-_-i want to install opera in 5.1002:04
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CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with my printer? printing out test pages works, but when i try to print out something with abiword it spits out blank paper02:05
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KratosI'm trying to run Hoary from Live-CD on a vintage machine. Specs are: Intel Pentium Pro 200Mhz, 128MB EDO, LG CD-RW Drive. I get the following error message: ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16 isolinux: Loading spec packet failed trying to wing it... isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM device; boot failed.02:05
markus-_-i downloaded the deb file for my distribution from the opera website02:05
markus-_-now what do i do with it?02:05
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SeicherlAwal: here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/662502:05
robzonPuMpErNiCkLe: so it's ok that it wants to remove hotplug? nothing to worry about? :)02:05
markus-_-lol02:05
PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: That sounds like a problem with AbiWord... have you tested it with another app, like OOo?02:05
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djstillmanHey all.  Anyone good with hp laserjet drivers?02:05
CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: yea same problem, or it prints it with the text really light?\02:05
Toma-Kratos: is it an scsi cdrom?02:05
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PuMpErNiCkLerobzon: put 'breezy' back where it used to be, then run the dist-upgrade02:05
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KratosToma-: No02:06
navaronemarkus> in terminal cd to directory that has deb file and type "sudo dpkg -i <operafilename>.deb02:06
Awalhere is mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/662602:06
SeicherlAwal: what kind of connection do you have? dsl?02:06
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Awalyea dsl02:06
navaroneyay! furry lil friendly monchichi...<s>02:06
titanium_platypuokay, that worked to get the driver installed.  Thanks....n02:06
titanium_platypuNext problem:02:06
titanium_platypuI can't go above 1024x768 in my Gnome settings02:07
titanium_platypubut in xorg.conf it shows higher resolutions02:07
titanium_platypuwhat the crap?02:07
PuMpErNiCkLerobzon: Although now that I think about it, I heard somewhere that Dapper uses a different system than hotplug.02:07
PuMpErNiCkLerobzon: I forget what it's called, though.02:07
SeicherlAwal: as far as i know (that's the way mine works): you establish a connection via the ppp0 interface (which actually is a "virtual" interface)02:07
Awalppp0 isnt for dial up?02:08
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GranisHello. I have problems getting ubuntu to boot with an NFS root. The nic works, it gets an IP and the NFR root information from the dhcp. I have verfied that it connect to the NFS server to the rpc service, but it still fails with the error message "NFS over TCP no available at x.x.x.x". I can manually add the NFS root if boot locally without any problems. Any ideas?02:08
Seicherlnope ADSL works aswell (at least in austria)02:08
CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: just printed out another perfect test page?02:08
robzonPuMpErNiCkLe: oh.. ok then.. so to make this clear, I'm supposed to run dist-upgrade with breezy repos in sources.list? weird...02:08
StarbuckZeroCan someone help me with my nvidia driver problem?02:08
Awalic02:08
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SeicherlAwal: where are you from?02:08
AwalUS02:08
Seicherlok02:08
PuMpErNiCkLerobzon: I belive so, yeah.02:08
StarbuckZeroI can't get X11 to start after a reboot.02:08
AwalKansas02:08
djstillmanStarbuckZero - what is the problem?02:08
Seicherlhmmm.... let me look. hold on02:09
PuMpErNiCkLerobzon: dist-upgrade is supposed to handle transitions between releases...02:09
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dfgasis there a way to configure certain programs without editing the configuration files directly   ie: apache02:09
PuMpErNiCkLerobzon: At least, if I'm wrong, it'll fail in a way that won't affect anything. :)02:09
hyphenateddfgas: you mean with a pretty GUI instead of plain-text config files?02:09
hoslerCan someone help me with tsocks and proxychains? Both dont work, but I know my proxy server is up and running. Proxychains says the proxy is broken, and tsosks says it isnt in the local subnet even when i add the ip to the local field. I know the proxy works becuase i can use it in firefox.02:10
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dfgashyphenated, lol, exactly02:10
PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: Under file:printer settings have you tried messing with the greyscale settings?02:10
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CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: no02:10
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PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: It might help.02:10
CanYouHelpMePlzPuMpErNiCkLe: in abiword?02:10
PuMpErNiCkLeCanYouHelpMePlz: I was looking at OOo, but AbiWord probably has something similar.02:11
PuMpErNiCkLeI don't have AbiWord installed.02:11
SeicherlAwal: goto console and look at this: less /etc/ppp/chap-secrets02:11
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hyphenateddfgas: yeah, there are tools for that. webmin for example02:11
hyphenateddfgas: I don't use them, but have a look, have a play, and see if you find something you like02:11
SeicherlAwal: and tell me if there is something like your dsl-username and password in it02:12
dfgasalso is firestarter on a repo somewhere?02:12
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StarbuckZerodjstillman - X11 doesn't start unless I reinstall the drivers.02:12
Seicherldfgas: wanna install a router or fw?02:12
Awalwell we dont use it but I think we have one02:12
Kratos!oldhardware?02:12
ubotuKratos: I don't know, could you explain it?02:12
Awali mean we havent had to use it02:12
dfgasSeicherl, yes02:12
KratosMeh... -_-\02:12
Seicherldfgas: so listen here. I'm just trying to guide Awal02:12
dfgascool02:13
djstillmanStarbuckZero - can you post your xorg.conf somewhere?02:13
robzonok.. I'm gonna run dist-upgrade now and go to sleep and wake up and cry about my broken ubuntu ;)02:13
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Awalthat command didnt give me anything really02:13
robzonanyways, see you all later02:13
Seicherlso the file is empty?02:13
Awalno02:13
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StarbuckZeroSure02:13
Seicherldfgas, Awal: would you mind going to another channel for that matters?02:13
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CanYouHelpMePlzdoes ubuntu use cups?02:13
Awalno02:13
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Seicherlok. hold on02:14
StarbuckZeroYou want me to post it here?02:14
dfgasSeicherl, sounds good02:14
hoslerCan someone help me with tsocks and proxychains? Both dont work, but I know my proxy server is up and running. Proxychains says the proxy is broken, and tsosks says it isnt in the local subnet even when i add the ip to the local field. I know the proxy works becuase i can use it in firefox.02:14
Seicherlok, join #setuprouter02:14
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vikI have a peculiar boot problem: I've moved my system from one hard disk to another; the root partition is still hda2 as before, but I moved the swap partition from hda3 to hda6. After updating fstab, the system hangs when booting. After trying a few things, I put the swap back on hda3. Now it works OK. I want to move swap back to the end of the drive; is the location of the swap partition mentioned anywhere apart from fstab?02:15
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djstillmanStarbuckZero - no, on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:15
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StarbuckZerook02:17
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markus-_-how do i find out where a program is installed...... if i installed it using synaptic package manager?02:19
StarbuckZeroOkay I posted it02:19
Davey`markus-_-:02:19
] BreliC[i'm using Breezy... and amaroK had been working without issue until today, when it won't even start (it crashes immediately and prompts me to send a backtrace)... has anyone else experienced this?02:19
markus-_-yes Davey`02:19
djstillmanStarbuckZero - link please?02:19
StarbuckZerohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/662702:19
Davey`markus-_-: right click > properties > installed files (tab)02:19
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StarbuckZeroI changed the nvidia back to nv02:19
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StarbuckZeroSo that way I could start X02:20
] BreliC[the only thing i installed today was gtk2-engines-qtpixmap and the updates yesterday (cpio, fetchmail)02:20
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markus-_-where in synaptic package manager?02:20
calotahi02:20
quackervik, what does your fstab line look like; did you fdisk the /dev/hda6 as swap/Solaris partition or just change the entry in /etc/fstab?02:20
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Davey`markus-_-: on the item itself, right pane :)02:20
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Hikaru79markus-_-, right click the package itself. Like, the name of it in the list.02:20
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markus-_-in synaptic package manager you mean?02:21
djstillmanStarbuckZero - PM me...02:21
cvadlamai keep getting invalid password for root error02:21
quacker(good question, BTW -- I've never had problems moving swap around in Debian)02:21
cvadlamaand i can use the same passwd to su into02:21
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Hikaru79markus-_-, precisely.02:21
cvadlamaany idea what could be wrong02:21
vikquacker: fdisk'ed to linux swap, and changed fstab, and mkswap'ed02:22
markus-_-which file is the one i need to point my launcher at02:22
markus-_-its opera web client02:22
] BreliC[amarok gives me this error "kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-vince/ksycoca'!" and a few others02:22
fangoriousthere's something wrong with acpi on my laptop. I have /etc/acpi/event/sleepbtn set to run hibernate.sh and gnome-power-manager set to hibernate when the suspend button is pressed (and the computer sleep style set to hibernate too). the problem is that hitting the sleep button (fn+f3) suspends the computer rather than hibernate it02:22
] BreliC[yuck02:22
] BreliC[then KIO craps out02:22
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StarbuckZeroPM you?02:23
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Davey`markus-_-: you installed the Opera deb?02:24
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markus-_-well synaptic package manager did02:24
fangoriousit was working fine for a while, and i'm not sure what changed02:24
quackervik, AFAIK, that's how it's *supposed* to be done (although your init scripts should take care of mkswap for you on a restart).  So I have no idea what to suggest.  You'll hve to wait for someone more cluefull, I'm afraid.02:24
Davey`markus-_-: OK, do this, open up a command line, and try: opera02:24
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djstillmanStarbuckZero - yes.  Right click on my name, and select Open Dialog Window...02:24
Davey`if that works, put: opera %u in the launcher02:24
vikquacker: thanks anyway02:25
markus-_-so how do i make a launcher that does that02:25
markus-_-lol02:25
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Davey`markus-_-: OK, where do you want it?02:25
gnomefreakmarkus-_-, right click panel add custom launcher name it what you want and for command type opera02:26
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Davey`he might want it in his Applications Menu02:26
markus-_-kewl02:26
markus-_-that easy02:26
quackervik, you might set BOOT_DEBUG=1 as a boot argument in grub and also look at dmesg02:26
markus-_-wow02:26
markus-_-i thought i had to point it to a file02:26
Davey`markus-_-: yes, pretty easy :)02:26
gnomefreakmarkus-_-, unless you want it in your menu02:26
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Davey`markus-_-: the Opera icon should be in /usr/share/pixmaps02:27
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markus-_-do i need to run it in terminal02:27
quackerMaybe you can find something yourself while you wait for the Bear of the Holy Clue to logon here, heh.02:27
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Davey`nope02:27
quacker'Bearer'02:27
johndewAny way to find out which user was the last to write a certain file?02:27
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djstillmanAnyone here know much about hp laserjet printers??02:28
quacker(ummm, maybe that's DEBUG_BOOT -- I can't remember)02:28
vikquacker: I've pasted the last four lines before it hangs into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/662902:28
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sabm02:28
CanYouHelpMePlzomfg.. the bat of clue thats a serious bat02:28
cafuegodjstillman: Just ask your question.02:28
fangoriousanyone have any familiarity with configuring acpi events/scripts?02:28
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quackerdjstillman, I know I hate em, and that most of em don't *properly* support postscript.02:29
quacker=P02:29
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djstillmanI am having problems getting good print quality out of my laserjet 5si with any drivers I have tried, and I can't get advanced features, either...02:29
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tonyyarussoShoot.  I was wondering why it seemed like my backup wasn't going anywhere.  Turns out the /home/user/.wine has links back to the root filesystem, so it was in an infinite loop!02:30
quackervik, you didn't tell me you were attempting STD!02:30
quackerd00d!02:30
quackerOf course it won't work!02:30
vikquacker: huh?02:30
docsqualequestion: I just attempted to install squirrelmail from the package manager, but it wants to install apache-common as well.  I have apache2 already installed and working.  Is this going to cause a conflict?  Can I get around it?  Thanks.02:30
Davey`I wish I could get my one touch backup button to work in Ubuntu02:31
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johndewAny way to find out which user was the last to modify a file?02:31
vikquacker: what is STD?02:31
quacker"Attempting normal resume"  <-- Hibernate uses the swapfile.02:31
djstillmanSexually Transmitted Disease??02:31
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quackerYou have to go ALL THE WAY down to init 002:31
vikquacker: but I didn't hibernate02:31
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quackerhmmm... I wonder what that means then.02:32
CanYouHelpMePlzwhat folder to pictures go into on the nano?02:32
Toranhey guys, how can I get my iPod to be automatically mounted when I plug it in?02:32
Seicherlgnomefreak: still here?02:32
gnomefreakjust got back02:32
quackerAlso, we can see that it's looking at the wrong device -- obviously it's not reading from /etc/fstab when initializing swap02:33
gnomefreakcame back to run a kernel update :)02:33
Seicherlgnomefreak: my restoration-file is 10.5 GB.02:33
vikquacker: that's what I thought at first too, but I guessed that there would be some sort of sanity check/checksum before it actually tried the resume. Besides, I think resume normally happens a little earlier02:33
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gnomefreakoh and to find out how much itunes wants per song :(02:33
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quackerYou want it to point to /dev/hda6, correct?02:33
StarbuckZerodjistillman02:33
StarbuckZeroAre you thre?02:33
vikquacker: yep02:33
djstillmanStarbuckZero - Yes02:33
Seicherlgnomefreak: I think i'll do the recovering stuff tomorrow02:33
docsqualequestion: I just attempted to install squirrelmail from the package manager, but it wants to install apache-common as well.  I have apache2 already installed and working.  Is this going to cause a conflict?  Can I get around it?  Thanks.02:33
Doomhammersomeone willing to help me with apache2 configuration ?02:33
cafuegodocsquale: apache-common is *not* apache02:33
cafuegodocsquale: So no, it won't cause a conflict.02:34
Doomhammerit's trying to open my PHP file as a PHTML file ?02:34
Doomhammereven though I'm using known-good config from another ubuntu boxen02:34
gnomefreaklol i dont blame you Seicherl  well its getting late here atleast02:34
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docsqualecafuego: doesn't it work with apache v1?  does it matter that I don't have apache v1 installed?02:34
Seicherl2:30 AM02:34
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nathanjhello all02:34
fangoriousanyone using the kde 3.5 packages from kubuntu.org?02:34
morpheusholaaaaaaa02:34
markus-_-hey Davey`  and gnomefreak  thanks for your help02:34
gnomefreak8:30pm here02:34
Doomhammeralso, when I do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart", it doesn't say anything at the CL02:34
markus-_-Opera works great02:34
cafuegodocsquale: it works with either, by default, ehich is why it wants apache-common.02:34
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docsqualecafuego: thanks.  I'll try it now.02:35
gnomefreakmarkus-_-, anytime im assuming you didnt add the repo?02:35
Tobahow can I change the system-wide path information?02:35
StarbuckZeroDo you have any ideal on what it is?02:35
cafuegoThere is no try.02:35
Seicherlgnomefreak: didn't expect that amount of data when i hit the key. it took about 2 or 3 hours.02:35
cafuegoToba: edit /etc/profile02:35
Tobathx02:35
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markus-_-repository?02:35
tonyyarussoDoomhammer, You only get messages if it doesn't work.02:35
markus-_-well i've been using your list02:35
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Doomhammertonyyarusso: hmm, my other ubuntu server gives me messages :S02:35
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varsendaggerhey where can i get firefox 1.5?02:35
cafuego!ff1.502:35
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:35
markus-_-and when i searched synaptic package manager it was there02:35
gnomefreakmarkus-_-, in easysource there is a opera repository02:35
varsendaggerTY02:36
markus-_-i'm still kinda figuring the repository thingy out02:36
gnomefreakok maybe you did have the repo than02:36
quackervik, well, I'm not a POSIX or an Ubuntu expert unfortunately for you.  This looks like an issue for the devel mail lists or forums -- try searching topics like 'system migration// moving swapfile'02:36
tonyyarussoDoomhammer, Well, I suppose I could be wrong.  That just seems to be the general way command line restarts have been for me.02:36
markus-_-so what you are saying is if i add the repository ..... if there are upgrades to that program i will be notified?02:36
zenlunatichow do i make my X not leave trails when i move it?02:36
vikquacker: cool - thanks for the help02:37
Doomhammertonyyarusso: hmm, i'm not sure... on my server (just tried it), it says Forcing reload of apache web server... [OK] 02:37
tonyyarussomarkus-_-, As long as you have cron updating the database, yes.  Or you can check manually.02:37
gnomefreakmarkus-_-, more than likely but if you found opera in synaptic before downloading it from opera.com you already have it02:37
markus-_-i assumed i had that repository installed if synaptic package manager found it02:37
quackerAnd next time you might want to try formating the drive with LVM so you can add more (grow) or remove (shrink) devices from the Volume Group.02:37
markus-_-thats what i thought02:37
markus-_-i did download it from opera.com02:37
markus-_-tried to install it02:37
tonyyarussomarkus-_-, With the default install that is set up.02:37
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markus-_-and figured i was missing packages02:37
quacker(If you know you're going to play musical partitions, that is)02:37
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gnomefreakmarkus-_-, if you added the repo you didnt have to download it from opera02:38
markus-_-so i uninstalled it and let the package manager do all the work02:38
markus-_-i realized that now gn0me02:38
markus-_-i mean gnomefreak02:38
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install opera would have worked02:38
gnomefreaklol i know i am late :(02:38
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markus-_-as i said i'm just kinda starting to make sense of it all02:38
fangoriouscan anyone help me figure out why the sleep button on my laptops suspends instead of hibernates (as specified in /etc/acpit/events/sleepbtn, and in gnome-power-manager)?02:39
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markus-_-linux has been a wonderful.... yet intense journey so far02:39
markus-_-lol02:39
tonyyarussontfsresize can make things bigger if need be too, right?02:39
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Seicherlgnomefreak: CU around! I'll tell you if i find out something about the recover-thing.02:39
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CanYouHelpMePlzdoes anyone know how to transfer pictures to the ipod nano on ubuntu?02:39
gnomefreakFF in dapper isnt really 1.5 :(02:39
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gnomefreaknight Seicherl02:39
cyphaseis Dapper Server going to have an easy to use web admin interface?02:39
cafuegoFF in dapper is also b0rken02:39
Seicherlthanks for helping everybody!02:39
cafuegocyphase: I hope not.02:39
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Seicherlgood night!02:39
tonyyarussofangorious, Wish I could.  I'm having issues with power event buttons myself.02:39
markus-_-but some of the recording and editing software doesn't seem to work as well02:39
Raven^hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?02:40
gnomefreakcafuego, mine isnt02:40
markus-_-in linux that is02:40
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cyphasecafuego, why not?02:40
gnomefreakmy updater is broken FF works ok02:40
cafuegognomefreak: Your downloads window actually works?02:40
fangorioustonyyarusso: the annoying thing is it used to work, and I don't know what changed.02:40
cafuegocyphase: security hole02:40
gnomefreakcafuego, no that is the only thing that doesnt02:40
markus-_-okies02:40
cyphasecafuego, an optional package of course02:40
tonyyarussofangorious, Same here.02:40
markus-_-nite all02:40
cyphasenot preinstalled02:40
markus-_-thanks again02:40
cafuegognomefreak: So it sb0rken ;-)02:40
cafuegocyphase: webmin is already optional.02:40
gnomefreaki thought that was a plug-in02:40
_xetHow do I apt-get aterm?02:41
markus-_-this place is like becoming my second home..... my wife thinks i'm having an affair with a girl named linux02:41
markus-_-lol02:41
cyphasecafuego, webmin is crappy02:41
gnomefreaksudo apt-get aterm?02:41
cyphasefor server amdin anyway02:41
gnomefreakinstall02:41
tonyyarussofangorious, I'll probably end up doing a fresh install, to fix that among other things I've broken.  (New to this, playing around a bit too much.)02:41
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ZugwrackHi all....hey I am running Ubuntu under VMWare  using the image they have for download off of their site...how can I see what video card is emulated and the setup so I know the specific video card settings?02:41
_xetcyphase: Thats the problem, I cant find it.02:41
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install <package>02:41
cafuegocyphase: Yes, but not because it's webmin. It's because it's a web interface.02:41
CanYouHelpMePlzmarkus-_-: lol, a girl named linux arent we all02:41
fangorioustonyyarusso: did you happen to start off with ubuntu-desktop, and then add kubuntu-desktop02:41
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_xetapt-cache search aterm doesnt show me anything02:41
CanYouHelpMePlzis their a way to put pictures on ipod nano?02:41
CanYouHelpMePlzfrom ubuntu02:41
juliodjneed help: i cant use sudo commands and root is disable, how i can open admin utilities?02:41
cafuegoZugwrack: You need to install vmware tools and use the 'vmware' video driver.02:42
tonyyarussofangorious, No, still using just Gnome here.  I've added all kinds of other things to see what they do though.02:42
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gnomefreakubotu tell CanYouHelpMePlz  about ipod02:42
cafuegoCanYouHelpMePlz: Plug it in and copy them?02:42
CanYouHelpMePlzgnomefreak: it has no information, cafeugo: doesn't work it needs to be synced02:42
CreatureXjuliodj: why cant you use sudo? anyone should be able to by entering user password (not root password)02:43
cafuegoCanYouHelpMePlz: Oh, maybe via gtkpod then.02:43
Zugwrackcafuego: Ok..but it appears maybe the default image had something else done when created since video display is great as is...02:43
_xetWhy cant I find packages such as aterm /eterm?02:43
tonyyarussoCanYouHelpMePlz, How do you put music on it?  Is there a reason that's different than pictures?02:43
CanYouHelpMePlzcafuego: i use gtkpod for music but, it wont let me copy .jpg's to it02:43
CreatureXcanyouhelpmeplz: plz is not a word02:43
CreatureX;)02:43
tonyyarusso_xet, Probably don't have the right repo, or haven't updated since adding it.02:43
CanYouHelpMePlzCreatureX: ...02:43
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cajuni have samba installed and my computers can't view each other.  can anyone help me?02:43
gnomefreakubotu tell _xet about sources02:44
_xettonyyarusso: I have updated it (apt-get update) But where can I find repos?02:44
juliodjwhen i use sudo, the system ask my password, i type it but notihng happens.02:44
cajuni can ping the IP addresses and PCnames just fine02:44
gnomefreak!info aterm02:44
_xetthanks02:44
tonyyarusso!tell _xet about sources02:44
ubotuaterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-11 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 280 kB02:44
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SirkWow.02:44
gnomefreak_xet, you need to add the universe repository to your list02:44
gnomefreakor just take the # away from it02:45
bluefoxicyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/ZvNxB739.html  Toooooo quiet . . .02:45
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cajunFollowing error messages:   sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()02:49
cajunReading package lists... Done02:49
cajunsendmail: fatal: gethostbyname: Bad file descriptor02:49
cajunwhat's wrong?02:49
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_xetThanks!02:50
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juliodj_i disable root account using passwd -l root and cant activate it because sudo does not work neither in terminal or with run as different user02:51
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juliodj_how do i avoid my dialup connection for discconecting?02:52
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juliodj_sudo has never worked in my system02:54
aedesI'm having problems browsing other smb workgroups, has anyone else had issues?02:54
juliodj_i am new to linux02:55
gnomefreakjuliodj, if you are the person that installed ubuntu or were added to the sudoers list it should have worked fine with you user password02:55
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zazuhi02:56
Jaredwhat do i do after i download limewire02:56
gnomefreakubotu tell Jared about limewire02:56
Jaredty'02:56
gnomefreakyw02:57
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zazuWhats up all02:57
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gnomefreakdid i just read that right limewire comes in a tarball?02:57
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juliodj_i install it but when using the password, is said is invalid. I even make root and ser password the same to try to fix it but nothing happens02:58
Jaredhow od i unpack it02:58
gnomefreakJared, what kind of file is it?02:58
Jaredrpm02:58
GranisHello. I have problems getting ubuntu to boot with an NFS root. The nic works, it gets an IP and the NFR root information from the dhcp. I have verfied that it connect to the NFS server to the rpc service, but it still fails with the error message "NFS over TCP no available at x.x.x.x". I can manually add the NFS root if boot locally without any problems. Any ideas?02:58
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ilba7r!ion02:58
ubotuilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?02:58
gnomefreakyou try like hell not to they dont have debs?02:58
gnomefreak!limewire02:59
ubotuhmm... limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.02:59
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Jarednope they don't02:59
zazucan anyone help me install firefox 1.5?02:59
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gnomefreak!tell zazu about FF1.503:00
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gnomefreakJared, looks like you didnt get right package03:00
gnomefreakubuntu doesnt use rpms03:00
gnomefreakthat link right there gives me a zip03:01
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=== gnomefreak brb reboot
Jaredkk03:01
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zazuis firefox 1.5 not good with ubuntu03:01
ProNoobomigod !!!03:01
poningru!tell zazu about firefox1.503:02
ProNoobmy system locks up completely everytime i am trying to drag and drop something !!!!!!!!!!03:02
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ProNoobhelp plx !03:02
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MeeKs_if i partition a HD how much space should i leave for ubuntu?03:02
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cafuegoProNoob: Don't drag&drop stuff.03:03
Belboz99Hey all, I'm trying to resize a FAT32 Partition with Gparted, how do I make sure it's not busy?03:03
cafuegoMeeKs_: 2.5GB minimum. 5GB or more to comfortable run it.03:03
MeeKs_i was thinking 1003:03
KyralBelboz99: unmount it?03:03
ProNoobno03:03
ProNoobseriously03:03
ProNoobit just freezes03:03
cafuegoMeeKs_: 10 will be fine03:03
MeeKs_also would my mac be able to read and write to it?03:03
ProNoobi have to do a reboot03:03
Belboz99Kyral, did that but Gparted keeps on saying it's busy03:03
ProNoobhelhelhelp !03:03
KyralBelboz99: *shrug*03:03
KyralBelboz99: try the LiveCD?03:04
Belboz99actually, correction on that, I'm try to "move" the partition03:04
cafuegoMeeKs_: No.03:04
tonyyarussoIs there a way to find out the date/time of the last n logins of a user?03:04
Belboz99that's a great idea kyral03:04
MeeKs_oh03:04
Belboz99I'll do that03:04
MeeKs_thats no good then03:04
cafuegoMeeKs_: Well... not to my knowledge, but I haven't looked for ext3 drivers for OSX for ages.03:04
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cafuegoMeeKs_: Linux will read and write hfs+ just fine, though.03:04
MeeKs_so if i networked them together03:05
juliodj_why sudo is not working for me?03:05
MeeKs_i couldnt pull stuff of ubuntu to the mac03:05
cafuegoMeeKs_: Oh, via network? yeah, that will work fine.03:05
MeeKs_ok coo03:05
MeeKs_thats all i need03:05
cafuegoMeeKs_: I thought you meant on the same machine :-)03:05
MeeKs_naw03:05
cafuegoMeeKs_: Either via samba or using NFS.03:05
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Kr0ntabheya peoples03:05
MeeKs_ok03:06
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MeeKs_ok time to install03:06
cafuegoMeeKs_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/03:06
MeeKs_what will that do03:06
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Jareddoes anyone else in here know how to do limewire03:07
cafuegoMeeKs_: Allows OSX to directly access linux partitions on the same drive.03:07
MeeKs_oh ok cool03:07
MeeKs_ill save that03:07
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juliodj_sudo command is not working for me neither in terminal or run at different user window03:07
poningru!rufus03:07
ubotuponingru: I haven't a clue03:07
VaderHello folks03:07
whyameye!restricted formats03:08
juliodj_i cant open any administrative services03:08
ubotuit has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'03:08
ProNoobanyone know why my computer might freeze when trying to drag and drop ???03:08
juliodj_i cant even activate the root account back. Please HELP!03:08
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Some_Bodyre-install ubuntu03:09
moshehow do I get mkisofs to generate a dvd-video image?03:09
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markivepronoob memory issues~?03:09
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mosheI keep getting an error with the -dvd-video flag03:09
Some_Bodyyou probably deleted your root directory03:09
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aedesjuliodj_, try just "su"03:09
ProNoobmarkive, could be, but its kinda strange that it only happens when dragging something...03:09
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VaderProNoob, mine doesn't freeze but it sure does get to whereit lags....first it was my firewall, got rid of it, then it was apache, got rid of that now I am out of answers lol03:10
juliodj_i use "passwd -l root"03:10
markivepronoob could be a graphics problem03:10
Some_Bodycopy all your important files, put in the installation cd (or a live cd, your choice), and root will come back03:10
CosmoDadmoshe: I like to use k3b for that instead of fiddling with CLI parameters..03:10
ProNoobVader no, its a 100% lockdown, i was having normal freezes with wine before03:10
mosheCosmoDad, I'm "fiddling with CLI parameters" because k3b is unable to do this.  k3b is just a frontend.  mkisofs is refusing to create a dvd video image.03:11
ProNoobmarkive, yeah, i thought about something with the hardware accelerated cursor, can i turn that off ?03:11
moshe:(03:11
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techhello03:11
markivepronoob not sure how to turn it off sorry  mate03:11
BlueT_Good Morning AV8D :)03:11
mosheI could really use some help here.03:11
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techi need help03:11
tonyyarussotech: With?03:12
BlueT_tech: yes?03:12
techdoes anybody knows how to partion with the ubuntu03:12
Some_Bodyand never, ever run this command...what exactly is the ubuntu command for remove...Sudo rm -v /dev03:12
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techi cant seems to figure it out03:12
quackertech, for you, I'd recommend qtpartd or partd03:12
techhi quacker03:13
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juliodj_Some_Body please, explain more about reinstalling, iam absolutely new to ubuntu03:13
quackerOr are you just installing for the first time?03:13
techpls tell how is the command is being rin03:13
techpls tell how is the command is being run03:13
phos-phorosdid I mention how much I enjoy the simplicity of Ubuntu?03:13
techyes03:13
quackertech, do you have KDE or Gnome running?03:13
Some_Bodyallrighty03:13
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quackerAnd don't repeat03:13
Some_Bodyjulio, do you have an installation disk?03:13
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BlueT_tech: HDD partition?03:14
juliodj_yes03:14
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techi have no idea what your taliong about03:14
Some_Bodyok03:14
Some_Bodyenter your bios03:14
Some_Bodyusually done by pressing del, f10, ctrl+alt+esc, f1, f2 or any other random keys03:14
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techi dont know whats kde gnome03:14
quackerSome_Body, don't troll03:14
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Some_Body...I'm not trolling03:14
tonyyarussotech: Desktop environments.03:14
juliodj_when rebooting?03:14
phos-phorosyes03:15
tonyyarussoYes, juliodj_.03:15
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quackerSome_Body, one does not need to do anything with the BIOS to reinstall Ubuntu (unless there is a specific prblem that so indicates)03:15
BlueT_tech: $ apt-cache search gparted03:16
Some_Bodyoh, never had to reinstall it03:16
Some_Bodydidn't know...sorry03:16
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techi install ubuntu then when it comes to partitioning the hard disk, the system wont recognize the logical or the primary partition, it only recognize the one handling the system?03:16
tonyyarussoWhat temperature should a laptop normally be at?  (output of acpi -t)  Still says ok, but wondering if I'm nearing a limit or still fine.03:16
juliodj_i think is important., my system have Ubuntu and WindowsMe03:17
juliodj_i use the advanced installation03:17
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gnomefreakthey are starting to implement the "graphics" in dapper :)03:18
gnomefreakadd graphics but now it doesnt reboot nicely anymore lol03:19
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juliodj_i get confused on the partition process. is there a way to skip the partition procedure while reinstalling?03:19
BlueT_tech: during installation time or after you installed ubuntu?03:20
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juliodj_during03:20
tonyyarussojuliodj_, If you've already partioned and don't change the table it shouldn't do anything anyway.  But you'll want to specify some mount points in it.03:20
graymanJuliodj,  etter solution is to read about it03:20
grayman*better03:21
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gnomefreakjuliodj_, it depends why you are re-installing03:21
techbluet_: during installation03:21
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tonyyarussognomefreak, juliodj_ disabled root and sudo wasn't working.03:22
BlueT_tech: on IBM laptop?03:22
techbluet_: no. on pc.03:22
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graymanjuliodj_, if you dont understand a step during installation its better to read the documentation to be sure that you're doing alright03:23
weasel__Hey guys. Just installed Ubuntu for the first time, and I am wondering about Firefox 1.5.  It doesn't seem to be in any of the apt-get repositories. Only 1.0.703:23
tonyyarusso!tell weasel__ about ff1.503:23
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BlueT_tech: it didn't recognize any partition?03:24
weasel__lol, i guess that's a FAQ.03:24
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tonyyarussowweasel, Yep.03:24
Sturgeonman03:24
Sturgeongnome works fine03:25
Sturgeonbut sometimes, it just dies and restarts03:25
Sturgeonrandomly03:25
Sturgeonwhat could cause this?03:25
BlueT_wweasel: no Fx 1.5 package in deb pool. you have to wget the tarball.03:25
aedesbad memory03:25
Sturgeoni tested my memory, it's ok03:25
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Sturgeonwhere cand find its logs?03:26
BlueT_Sturgeon: maybe you can $dmesg|tail to see if there's anything wrong03:26
SturgeonBlueT_: it doesn't show anything, i already checked03:26
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tonyyarussowweasel, There are lots of things the ubotu has answers to, so you can see if the bot knows what you're looking for with !factoid, /msg ubotu factoid, ubotu tell me about factoid, and the like.  Lot's of simple things can be answered that way; very handy.03:26
aedesSturgeon, attach gdb to it, and when it dies do a bt03:27
danlare there any reason why synaptic would open and instantly close?03:27
ProNoobyes, it doesn't like you, danl03:28
danlother than that?03:28
wweaseltonyyarusso, thanks!03:28
wweasel!factoid03:28
ubotuA list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au03:28
SturgeonI looked in /var/log/messages, it says "Gconf server is not in use, shutting down." at the last time it did it03:28
Sturgeonany idea what does that mean03:29
danlis there any way i can get it to display the exit code?03:29
Sturgeonoh i found another error message in /var/log/syslog03:29
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Sturgeonit says "gdm: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0" and after that the "GConf server is not in use, shutting down"03:30
BlueT_hello guys :) I'm the leader of a local ubuntu users group in taiwan (Ubuntu@TW)03:31
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meuserjhow stable is Dapper at this point?03:31
Kyraleh03:31
BlueT_now i have some question, and i need to talk to some OFFICIAL ubuntu member03:31
KyralBlueT_: Present03:32
PuMpErNiCkLemeuserj: Usable, "but"...03:32
BlueT_is there anyone here? @@03:32
meuserjmind you, I'm not a newbie by any stretch of the word03:32
KyralBlueT_: I am03:32
KyralBlueT_: Look at my cloak03:32
ErikLwine 0.9.5 seems to have been posted within the last hour...get your apt-get going.  it's not even on the winehq.org front page yet, but http://www.winehq.org/?announce=latest will give you 0.9.5 info03:32
quackerBlueT_, use the contact info on the website, and try not to be so lame -- heh03:32
PuMpErNiCkLemeuserj: I've played a bit with it, and there are definitely bugs which you'll notice.03:33
BlueT_quacker: sorry...03:33
techbluet_: heres the scenario, in windows if you make a 2 partition on a hardisk, thers a drive c:\ & drive d:\ right?, in ubuntu when i make a partition, a 40 gb hd, making it 20 gb in primary & 19 gb for logical and lastly 1gb for swap area, then installation proceed. after installation i cant see the drives that i partition, only the system drive? anybody hae an idea what i do wrong during installation?03:33
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PuMpErNiCkLemeuserj: But considering all the changes they're making, I think it's looking promising. :)03:33
quackerBlueT_, and you might try #ubuntu-offtopic03:34
meuserjPuMpErNiCkLe: cool... maybe I'll play with it a bit then...03:34
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PuMpErNiCkLemeuserj: Try the livecd. :)03:35
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meuserjtech: in unix the partitions go on mount points03:36
meuserjso if you set up a partition for the system and for home, / is one partition, and even though /home just looks like a subdirectory of root, it is actually a different partition.03:36
dfgashow do i add a pppoe connection to network-admin?03:37
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jcoleis there a way to get sql access to the debian package database?03:37
tonyyarussotech: If you didn't specify mount points during the install, hda1, hda2, etc. or sda1, sda2, etc. will be the different partitions, and you can mount them after adding them to your /etc/fstab.03:37
meuserjtech: type "df" in the command line to see what devices are mounted where.03:38
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CanadianSnowhey?03:39
CanadianSnowhey???03:39
PuMpErNiCkLehey03:39
edlangHEY?!03:39
UltimateMacUser1hey03:39
CanadianSnowwow, wtf03:39
PuMpErNiCkLeHEY!!!03:39
meuserjhey!!111one03:39
jahshuahow would .rar files be opened generally  ?03:39
PuMpErNiCkLeH3Y03:39
CanadianSnowsrry, its lagging on my end03:39
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tonyyarussoWhat's /dev/shm?03:39
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PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: Right click, select 'extract here'03:39
tonyyarussoThat was kind of special, CanadianSnow.03:40
jahshuai dont have that option when i right click03:40
CanadianSnowlol thanks03:40
CanadianSnowummm ya, i dont have a root03:40
quackerBlueT_, if you're looking for Mark Shuttleworth, he goes by asdfl I think03:40
rames-dev'evening all ... question about changing ubuntu window manager (would like to have an alternate account running sawfish and that's about it)03:40
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PuMpErNiCkLe*right-click on the .rar file03:40
marexanybody here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:40
jahshuai did03:41
meuserjumm.. yes03:41
rames-dev...not sure where ubuntu is hiding that configuration option, can someone give me a few tips?03:41
BlueT_quacker: ooops03:41
PuMpErNiCkLehm03:41
CanadianSnowanyone tell me why setup didn't ask for root password?03:41
PuMpErNiCkLeodd03:41
CanadianSnowand why root doesn't even show up anywhere? :s03:41
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PuMpErNiCkLeDoes double-clicking it open it in archive manager?03:41
rames-devCanadianSnow, probably because ubuntu uses sudoers by default03:41
jahshuano03:41
PuMpErNiCkLeCanadianSnow: root is disabled by default.03:42
rames-devCanadianSnow, do: "sudo bash" / your password and you'll get root03:42
Kyralubotu: tell CanadianSnow about RootSudo03:42
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cafuegoRead and be enlightened.03:42
CanadianSnowah, thanks guys03:42
jahshuait says archive type supported if i try to use archive manager03:42
quackerCanadianSnow, because Ubuntu doesn't use one by default -- you'll have to either boot to a recovery kernel or do sudo -i and then passwd if you want one03:42
BlueT_quacker: really sorry for what i did, coz i'm poor in english and i did not come to the channel very often ;'(03:42
meuserjrames-dev: the easiest way to put the commands you want to run (including the wm) in your .xinitrc and if you run the system default, it should exec that.03:42
quackerBlueT_, relax, okay.  I was the one being a little rude.03:43
marexanybody here who has yahoo id?03:43
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jahshuahow would .rar files be opened generally  ? archive manager isnt recognising it03:43
rames-devmeuserj, that's what i was looking for ... did "vi ~/.x<tab><tab>" and nothing came up ... iirc it's "#!/bin/sh ; exec sawfish &" ???03:43
CanadianSnowI have one lol03:43
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: do you have unrar-free or unrar-nonfree installed?03:43
CanadianSnowbut my other q/whatever03:43
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CanadianSnowthe windows keep going off the screen...03:43
marexi want to see hotcam03:43
marexhohas?03:43
BlueT_quacker: :p03:43
jahshuapumpernickle: i dont know03:44
picassohey, just got ubuntu up and running on laptop, and im having a retard issue. can't figure out where the sloppy focus option is :)03:44
picassodefault gnome install03:44
meuserjrames-dev: that's right except for the ampersand at then end.. if you background the only process you are running it will just exit your session immediately03:44
quackerBlueT_, /JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic (and look at kyral's hostmask; also, seveas' )03:44
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: open a terminal and type 'locate unrar | grep bin'03:44
BlueT_quacker: i'm in pm with Kyral now :p03:44
jahshuathat returns nothing03:45
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: okay, you don't have it installed03:45
tonyyarussoI'm having some trouble getting the syntax right for df.  I want to view things in MB, rather than GB.  I saw the -B switch in the man, but I got errors when I tried to do it.03:45
picassoanybody know how to change window focusing options?03:45
rames-devmeuserj, right ... amp's are for the preceding processes ... thanks!  been too long03:45
BlueT_quacker: but the question is nothing about .deb @@03:45
meuserjrames-dev: np03:45
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: type 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree'03:45
jahshuak03:45
rames-devpicasso, check system / pref / windows03:45
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CanadianSnow.....stuff off the screen, I dont wanna b rude but who knows how/where 2 fix it?03:45
picassoheh im retard03:45
wweaselHey guys. I am trying to upgrade Firefox to 1.5, (first time install) but I seem to have fudged it. I followed the instructions on the wiki, got the bug. I typed the workaround, but it's still dead.03:46
picassoi looked at that screen for a couple minutes and didnt see it03:46
rames-dev;^) @ picasso03:46
rames-devmeuserj, well, i'll be in and out if i'm unluck with "exec sawfish"  ;^) ... thanks for your help!03:46
picasso<3 sloppy focus03:46
picassook, now to figure out my damned wireless card =\03:46
meuserjrames-dev: no problem03:46
techmeuserj: by the could u tell how to run the command line while the ubuntu is running?03:46
meuserjtech: applications -> accessories -> Terminal03:47
bimberitonyyarusso: df --block-size=1M03:47
techmeuserj: thanks03:47
meuserjtech: np03:47
wweaselHey guys. I am trying to upgrade Firefox to 1.5, (first time install) but I seem to have fudged it. I followed the instructions on the wiki, got the bug. I typed the workaround, but it's still dead.03:48
CanadianSnowi like the bot03:48
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CanadianSnowcould someone point me to where its explained maybe? please03:49
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jahshuapumpernickle: i installed that03:49
bimberiubotu tell CanadianSnow about yourself03:49
rames-devhey again ... doesn't look like ".xinitrc" worked when logging in, looks like gnome is still wanting to come up by default03:49
meuserjrames-dev: hmmmm03:50
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PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: Okay, now either archive manager should recognize .rar files, or if it doesn't, you can unrar files by opening a terminal and writing 'unrar -e /path/to/file'03:50
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jahshuaok03:50
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jahshuaits not working :/03:50
jahshuahm03:50
jahshuaill try the terminal03:50
igotyofirethis place is crowded03:50
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: By default, it'll put the unrared file in your home folder.03:51
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jahshuak03:51
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nomasteryodai use ... rar e filename.rar03:51
wweaselCould someone help me with Firefox? In following the instructions on the wiki page i seem to have completely killed my firefox.03:52
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wweaselTrying to upgrade03:52
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jahshuaarghghghghg03:52
jahshuaok i really need help03:52
marexanybody here?///03:52
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: What happened? O_o03:52
jahshuawhat do you have to do to play .wmv files03:52
jahshuai have got all the codecs03:53
jahshuaeverything03:53
jack|assSo has anyone had luck with getting a bluetooth adapter to work under ubuntu?03:53
jahshuatotem still wont play03:53
jahshuaneither will vlc03:53
techwhat is the dir command in the ubuntu command line?03:53
jack|assjahshua: totem is ass.  Try mplayer. :)03:53
jack|asstech: ls.03:53
jahshuaok03:53
jahshuawhats the package name for mplayer03:53
jack|asstech: although if you're using bash, dir should also work.03:53
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PuMpErNiCkLejack|ass: mplayer is ass.  Try VLC.  :)03:53
wweaseltech: ls is good too.03:53
jahshuai have vlc03:54
jahshuait wont play .wmv03:54
jack|assPuMpErNiCkLe: Your momma's ass! :)03:54
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: Do you have the w32 codecs?03:54
jahshuayes03:54
techhow about change directory?03:54
jack|assPuMpErNiCkLe: i actually haven't used VLC in a long time.  I just don't see it as a media player.03:54
jack|assPuMpErNiCkLe: it's damn sweet for multicasting video though.03:54
PuMpErNiCkLejack|ass: I prefer Totem, but VLC is the only think I can get to play .mov files.03:54
PuMpErNiCkLe*thing03:54
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PuMpErNiCkLetech: cd03:55
jack|assPuMpErNiCkLe: really?  I never had a problem with mplayer.  Totem used to always pop up to let me know it couldn't play whatever format it tried to open in mozilla.  Until I killed it.03:55
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techhow about change directory in ubuntu command line03:55
PuMpErNiCkLejack|ass: I could never get mplayer to work, so I used vlc. :D03:55
wweaselCould someone help me with my upgrade to Firefox 1.5? I am having trouble. It said there was a bug on the page, and it did happen, but i can't get past it.03:55
jack|asstech: man bash03:55
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jack|assPuMpErNiCkLe: they used to multicast dvds on fridays at work. :P03:56
jahshuaahhh03:56
jahshuamplayer worked :)03:56
jahshuastill brings up an error03:56
jahshuabut it works03:56
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua: w00t03:56
jahshuaindeed03:56
DelvienHey guys whats the command to reconfigure your Video card driver setting ( which driver you choose ) something like dpkg-reconfigure.. i forget03:56
jahshuaw00t03:56
techok thanks03:56
jahshuathanks for the help03:56
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bimberi!xcfg03:57
ubotuhmm... xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"03:57
wweaselCould someone help me with my upgrade to Firefox 1.5? I am having trouble. It said there was a bug on the wiki instructions page, and it did happen, but i can't get past it. Now I can't open firefox at all.03:57
bimberiDelvien: ^^^ :)03:57
marexhi delvian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:57
rames-devmeuserj: sorry, was afk ... did any other crazy ideas occur to you??03:57
Delvienthanks guys03:57
Delvienand girls03:57
CanadianSnowubotu: tell everyone about yourself03:57
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marexdelvien, do u have yahoo id03:58
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rames-dev(semi-repeat: anybody know how to change default x startup to be non-gnome (ie: sawfish?))03:58
Delvienmarex yes why?03:58
meuserjrames-dev: well, its been a while since I've done this with gdm, and they seem to keep changing how it's done... it looks like putting an appropriate .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions03:58
marexmay i have delvien?03:58
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: I can try, but I only downloaded/ran it from the Moz site.03:58
Delvienmarex why do you want it??03:58
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: What kind of error message are you getting, and what's the site with the instructions?03:59
wweaselwell, that's pretty much what i did. I followed the instructions on the wiki exactly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:59
rames-devmeuserj: hrm... will check on that some...03:59
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: give me a moment to read it...03:59
wweaselpumpernickle, thanks03:59
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tonyyarussoThanks bimberi.04:00
bimberitonyyarusso: np :)04:00
plopmanalguien habla espaol tengo una duda con mi sistema ubuntu? alguien puede ayudarme?????04:00
marexdelvien, have dialog with me plz04:00
wweaselpumpernickle, right at the top in the notes section it mentions the bug. i got to the point in the instructions where it says "test it. type firefox" (paraphrased)04:00
meuserjrames-dev: if that is the only way it is done, then I'm a bit disappointed... I don't see why a .desktop file is any better than just dropping a shell script in.. except maybe for translations.04:00
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Delvienmarex Delvien2001@yahoo.com04:01
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johanbrHi. Would anyone hazard a guess why my custom-built kernels won't boot? I'm suspecting some initrd breakage.04:01
markivenyone know how to play nokia 3gp video files with sound?04:01
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plopmanalguien me ayuda con mi mouse optico en ubuntu04:01
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: And you got the bug, as described?04:01
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rames-devplopman: estoy casi seguro que hay una "irc canal" que es en espanol04:02
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wweaselpumpernickle, yes i did.04:02
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marexhey!!!!! delvien04:02
Wanderlusthello04:02
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CanYouHelpMePlz!es04:02
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:02
rames-devplopman: no se cual ni como, pero busco algo como "ubuntu-es"04:02
Wanderlustwill this machien be able to run Ubuntu decently?: http://www.accurateit.com/details.asp?iid=34704:02
Wanderlustmachine*04:02
Delvienmarex yes?04:02
wweaselpumpernickle, and then i typed the work around written there.04:03
CanadianSnowGAHHHHHH how do I resize windows dambit04:03
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DelvienMarex do i know you?04:03
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: What happens when you try to run FireFox now?04:03
marexsure, delvien04:03
wweaselpumpernickle: but now it still does not work. i get a long list of errors. i can paste them, i know am not supposed to paste them here. where should i paste them?04:03
Delvienmarex well how do you know me?04:03
marexmay i have your yahoo id plz04:04
WanderlustWould anybody be able to give some ubuntu related advice?04:04
Delvienmarex Delvien2001@yahoo.com04:04
CanadianSnowme feels shunned04:04
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: In the pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:04
Irvinehhaha04:04
jack|assso anyway, bluetoof in linux?  Anyone have insights?04:04
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bimberi!bluetooth04:04
ubotusomebody said bluetooth was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup04:04
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jack|assbimberi: cool, thanks!04:05
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wweaselpumpernickle, done.04:05
CanadianSnow!window resizing04:06
ubotuCanadianSnow: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:06
CanadianSnowfuck off04:06
CanadianSnowomg04:06
thedevilsjesterOk a friend of mine has apache and apache-ssl installed, apache does php just fine, but apache-ssl just 'displays' the php files contents, anyone know why/how or have an idea what I should check?04:06
tonyyarussoCareful with the language CanadianSnow.04:06
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bimberijack|ass: np :)04:06
CanadianSnowwell im gonna cry soon04:06
meuserjthedevilsjester: dpkg-reconfigure apache-ssl and be sure that the php module is set to load04:07
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CanadianSnowI just wanna know how to keep the stupid windows on the screen04:07
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: got it04:07
meuserjCanadianSnow: is the window larger than your resolution?04:07
thedevilsjesterok meuserj I will tell my friend that, see if it works for him, thanks04:07
jack|assbimberi: i had all the tools, but didn't quite know how to use them and wouldn't have guessed from the looks of it. :)04:07
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meuserjthedevilsjester: np04:07
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CanadianSnowprobably, but i dont know how/where to change res04:08
leftistanyone know whta i can use to read a wma file in ubuntu?04:08
tonyyarussoCan scp show me an overall progress percentage?  I only see it for each individual file.04:08
leftisti'm frustrated04:08
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tonyyarusso!tell leftist about restrictedformats04:08
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aedesleftist, mplayer with w32codecs04:08
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Can you open synaptic and check if you have 'pango' installed?  There should be a short list of libraries that matches that name.04:08
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leftistumm ok04:08
leftistdamn windows04:08
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wweaselpumpernickle, yes, i have libpango1.0-0 and libpango1.0-common04:10
tonyyarussoI get the feeling my scp action is going through something self-referencing.  The output folder is larger than what it was supposed to copy, and it's not done yet.04:10
tonyyarussoWhat sorts of things would do that?04:10
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CanadianSnowuh, what04:10
meuserjtonyyarusso: if you have a symlink and it is dereferencing it, that could happen... use scp -a04:11
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Odd, because the errors are saying it can't load it... o_O04:11
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: locate pango | grep ".so" | grep "basic"04:11
Danl_nixwhats the name of one of the websites that lets me paste stuff and link it?04:11
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PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: That should return two items.04:11
CanadianSnowCanadianSnow: everyone is ignoring you04:11
tonyyarussomeuserj, What's -a?  I don't see it in the man.04:11
jack|asshrm04:12
tonyyarusso!tell Danl_nix about pastebin04:12
PuMpErNiCkLeCanadianSnow: Everyone is ignoring you.04:12
CanadianSnowyes, i noticed04:12
wweaselpumpernickle, it returns 4. 2 in lib and 2 in lib32. the same 2 it seems. probably because i am using 64 bit kernel.04:12
Danl_nixthanks tony04:12
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jack|assbimberi: it seems to try to discover it when i hidd -search, but doesn't actually find it.  if the device isn't in discoverable, it fails, however.04:12
meuserjtonyyarusso: my bad, that's an rsync option....04:12
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Is one of them /usr/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so04:13
CanadianSnowwhy do you people hate me04:13
tonyyarussomeuserj, Oh.04:13
wweaselyes04:13
PuMpErNiCkLeCanadianSnow: Because it snowed here today... :(04:13
wweaselpumpernickle: yes04:13
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: *blink*04:13
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tonyyarussomeuserj, I might have to end up using rsync if this doesn't work.  That could be the next shot.04:13
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wweaselpumpernickle: the other is /usr/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so04:14
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meuserjtonyyarusso: are you recursively scp'ing a directory tree?04:14
aedestonyyarusso, that's usually a better option anyway (rsync)04:14
bimberijack|ass: sorry, i don't use bluetooth personally (just knew about the factoid)04:14
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Danl_nixhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6633 thats what synaptic is erroring on... any ideas?04:15
jack|assbimberi: ARGH!  Now gnome-bluetooth-manager is working how it's supposed to (and wouldn't yesterday).  :)04:15
jack|asshaha, oh well.  i'll try with that.  thanks for the factoid tho04:15
wweaselpumpernickle, so you are completely stumped?04:16
bimberijack|ass: k :)04:16
CanadianSnowSnowed here 204:16
CanadianSnowwhy is it so hard for someone to find how how to change the dambed screen resolution04:16
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PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84975.html04:16
meuserjCanadianSnow: system,preferences,screen resolution04:17
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tonyyarussomeuserj, Yeah.  Trying to back up an entire disk, and finding that this isn't the best way to do it.04:17
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CanadianSnowty04:17
anton_quick what port do i use for ftp?04:17
Mr_Milenko2104:17
wweaselpumpernickle, so it's cause i am trying to install a 32 bit archive...04:17
Mr_Milenkodefault port04:17
anton_ty04:17
wweaselpumpernickle, could i get a 64 bit archive?04:17
meuserjtonyyarusso: rsync is much better suited for that... use it with the -a (archive) option and it will do it's best to make an exact copy... and if you cancel it it will resume.04:18
CanadianSnowthank you for finally answer my Q04:18
CanadianSnowhave fun yall, and goodnight04:18
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Does the fix posted there work, though?04:18
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cozhello all04:18
dirka64 bit ATI drivers plus wine plus WoW = not going to happen right?? its obvious but you never know......04:18
Belboz99Hey all, I'm looking to make a new partition.  Data stored there will be things like video, photos, and possibly used as an HTTP server and FTP server, is ReiserFS a good solution, would Reiser4 be better, or should I stick with ext3?04:18
P8ntKidIs fluxbox in the repos?04:18
tonyyarussomeuserj, It will resume where it left off??  Sweet!04:18
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: If it does, I'd leave it like that to avoid redoing a lot of debugging. :)04:18
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bimberiP8ntKid: you bet - it's in the universe repository04:19
tonyyarussomeuserj, Do I need rsync on both computers, or just one?  (And is it there by default?)04:19
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meuserjumm... yes you do need rsync at both ends, and I don't remember if it is there by default.04:19
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wweaselpumpernickle: no.04:19
tonyyarussomeuserj, Okay, will check.04:19
P8ntKidbimberi: Ah, that is why. I just did a fresh install of breezy and i was confused on why it wasnt there :)04:19
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: 0_004:19
plopmankien sabe algun canal de ubuntu en espaol04:20
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Is it still the same error messages, or have we at least fixed part of it?04:20
jack|assWoo!  Bluetoof away!04:20
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aedesplopman, #ubuntu-es04:20
tonyyarussomeuserj, 2.6.5-1ubuntu2 installed.  Here we go.04:20
wweaselpumpernickle: same error messages04:20
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Did you try to run firefox from the same terminal window you ran the 'fix' commands in?04:21
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meuserjtonyyarusso: you might want to give it one or two v's (for verbosity) because otherwise it gives you almost no output04:21
wweaselpumpernickle: yes, i did. ran the 2 fix commands, then ran firefox. got the same errors.04:21
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tonyyarussomeuserj, Thanks for the tip.04:21
Kr0ntabsup folks04:22
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tonyyarussoGeez rm is fast.  Way more than deleting in Windows.04:24
wweaselpumpernickle, this is really weird isn't it.04:24
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Mr_Milenkogot ubuntu botted on an xbox.. but its b0rked04:24
Mr_Milenko:(04:24
Mr_Milenkobooted*04:24
Mr_Milenkoonly gets to a console04:24
brenneranyone familiar with grub errors? i'm getting "error 29: disk write error" when i try and boot into xp.  breezy boots fine04:25
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PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: yeah04:25
sethkbrenner, disk _write_ error?04:25
sethkbrenner, you are sure it's from grub?04:26
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brennersethk: i'm presuming it is04:26
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brennerso it's not? :-/04:27
sethkbrenner, don't presume.  You should be able to tell, though.  You don't see any windows boot up on the screen, I take it?04:27
sethkbrenner, I don't know, but grub doesn't try to write04:27
brennersethk: oh ok.04:27
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brennersethk: well, when i select xp, it shows the grub entry, and then that one error line below04:28
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wweaselpumpernickel: how should I proceed?04:28
brennerit then says to press any key to continue.  if i do, it goes back to grub04:29
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PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Do what I'm trying now.... search google and wing it ;)04:29
sethkbrenner, that would appear to be coming from grub.  Let me see if grub actually does write.04:29
sethkbrenner, you haven't made any configuration changes at the grub prompt, just a normal boot and select windows?04:29
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PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: fwiw, when I tried FF1.5, I just downloaded it, decompressed it, and ran the .bin directly from there.04:30
brennersethk: hang on.  you were probably right the 1st time.  i tried removing grub using fixmbr off the xp cd, and i got "error loading operating system" when i rebooted04:30
sethkbrenner, not a good sign04:30
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brennersethk: i've read some forum topics, and they suggest [1]  disabling bios protection or [2]  running checkdisk off the xp cd04:31
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zenlunatichow can i stop the trails from occuring on my windows when i move them?04:31
sethkbrenner, you can try running checkdisk.  It can't hurt.  The odds aren't good, but try it anyway04:31
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B1zzi just put jre1.4 through synaptic and it broke my firefox! when i try to run it, it acts like its gonna work then it dissapears.  i run it though command prompt and it tells me segment fault!04:32
sethkbrenner, not even sure what they mean about disabling bios protection04:32
existancehow can I move a directory and all its contents with one command?04:32
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brennersethk: i've never run checkdisk before. :) is it equivalent to scandisk?04:32
sethkbrenner, it's equivalent to unix fsck04:32
brennerexistance: rm -rf <dir> (be careful though)04:32
brennerexistance: whoops04:33
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brennerdon't do that!04:33
brenneri thought you said 'remove'04:33
existancebrenner, heh didn't04:33
brennersorry04:33
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brennersethk: oh, ok04:33
SEJeffseth_k: do you mean chkdsk?04:33
sethkSEJeff, I don't mean either one, but he probably does, yes04:33
brennerexistance: isn't it the same as regular files? i.e. using v04:34
brenner*mv04:34
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sethkbrenner, yes, that's correct, about moving a directory04:34
Toranwhat is the best bittorrent client that simply installs and runs in Ubuntu?04:34
existancemm, thought it was different, let me try04:34
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brennerSEJeff, sethk: yes, chkdsk sorry04:35
SEJeffbrenner, thats ok.04:35
existancenope, that did it, thanks04:35
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brennerwhy would the fs be corrupt though?  it is a fresh install of xp.04:35
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sethkbrenner, I don't think the file system is really corrupted04:35
Sonderbladehow do you install hal from cvs?04:35
sethkbrenner, I think something was deleted04:36
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SEJeffbrenner, the xp bootloader likely just took a shat on you04:36
brennersethk: by the ubuntu install?04:36
WizardOfFoohow can I get an ubuntu package sync'ed with upstream?04:36
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sethkbrenner, I don't know04:36
jrsimsHOORAY FOR UBUNTU!04:36
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meuserjSonderblade: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fHalBuildInstructions04:36
brennerSEJeff: any ideas then?  or is running chkdsk the best idea?04:36
tonyyarussoDoes it matter which computer I run rsync from?  Maybe the one with the faster processor?  (Laptop-Desktop pair here.)04:36
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SEJeffWizardOfFoo, You mean get the upstream package on ubuntu, or sync the ubuntu package *with* upstream04:37
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SEJeffbrenner, You boot the computer to windows and what is the error again?04:37
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8473204:37
existancewhere should I install programs?04:37
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brennerSEJeff: "error 29: disk write error"04:37
fsnAnyone know how I would put my windows partition into GRUB? I already tried just copying the example from menu.lst but it doesn't work.04:37
WizardOfFooubuntu package at 1.3.4, upstream is at 1.3.5 SEJeff04:37
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existancei.e. what is the accepted place to put something like Azureus04:38
SEJeffWizardOfFoo, what is the package?04:38
WizardOfFoomoin04:38
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fsnDoes the window partition have to be a Primary partition, because I think it's set at Logical =/.04:38
Sonderblademeuserj: thanks04:38
SEJeffWizardOfFoo, Wait for a backport (you might need to request it) once it is in dapper, or install it from source yourself04:38
leftistanyone have w32codecs installed ?04:39
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sethkfsn, has to be primary, and frequently windows will barf if it isn't the first partition04:39
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Killadoghi04:39
SEJeffbrenner, That sounds like the disk is corrupt more than the fs...04:39
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jrsimsI want to be a l337 h@x0rz04:39
tonyyarussofsn: update-grub didn't add it automatically?04:39
SEJeffbrenner, chkdsk /F might help though04:39
wweaselpumpernickle, ok, i'll try that. thanks :)04:39
dirkalol man, each distro is like another planet....ok Ubuntu, how do i log onto as root, when installing i don't remember havng to set a password for that, and root+no pswd = no, and root+my user name password = no...but in users and groups it does not display root, and when i try to create it it said its already there.04:39
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tonyyarussoleftist, Of course.04:39
fsntonyyarusso, no it didnt04:39
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: :)04:40
brennerexistance: if i'm installing apps by compiling or using binaries, i have a programs folder in /home/<username>, otherwise, i just use apt04:40
SEJeffbrenner, /F is from memory, that might be the wrong option as I don't use windows very often. chkdsk /? will give you the options04:40
wweaselpumpernickle, i am in the process of retracing my steps and trying to follow the wiki instructions again.04:40
sethkdirka, it is already there04:40
fsnsethk, yeah i guess that's my problem. no way of somehow changing it to primary?04:40
tonyyarussofsn: Do you know which partition it's on?  (And what menu.lst were you copying?)04:40
sethkdirka, you just need to set the root password04:40
brennerexistance: it puts the stuff where it should belong e.g. executables in /usr/bin, docs in /usr/share/doc04:40
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metzendirka: sudo su04:40
existancebrenner, mm, guess i can leave it there, seems messy though04:40
sethkfsn, theoretically I suppose it's possible, but I've never tried.04:40
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dirkahey let me log out and try it, thanks!!04:41
dirkaif not ill be back ;)04:41
brennerSEJeff: thanks for the info...i doubt the disk is faulty though.  this puter is fairly new04:41
existancehow do I create a file that's linked to another (i.e. make a file that a shortcut to an executable)04:42
fsntonyyarusso, yes it's /dev/hda5, and the default one. it has an example at the top of the file, and that's what i just copied...04:42
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SEJeffbrenner, I would run chkdsk. And then look for the scandisk option that does the full system check. I don't remember it. Ubuntu does not mess up windows partitions so that is very weird04:42
tonyyarussofsn: Could you pastebin it please?04:42
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brennerSEJeff: ok. thanks04:43
fsntonyyarusso, you mean like putting it on http://pastebin.com/? Lol sorry new to this sorta.04:43
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PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: k - /msg me if it works04:44
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wweaselpumpernickle: where would i type the dpkg command?04:45
brennerSEJeff: regarding the chkdsk option, what would i be trying to do with /F?04:45
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brennerso if it's not F, i can see which one i need to use04:45
fsntonyyarusso, http://pastebin.com/491235 if that's what you meant... the highlighted part is what I posted in from the top.04:45
SEJeffbrenner, the force on reboot04:45
wweaselpumpernickle: as in, i am confused by the step where he installs it.04:45
brennerSEJeff: ok04:45
makzuHi guys.  I have a laptop with a display that acts funky when I use the binary Nvidia drivers unless I pass a special parameter to the kernel module when it's loaded.  How do I specify this parameter in Ubuntu?04:45
SEJeffbrenner, if you boot into xp and you type chkdsk it will fail and give you the option that does it04:45
ubuntu_can somone tell me how to get the ubuntu install cd into recovery mode? I used it before but I forgot what I had to type.04:46
brennerubuntu_: rescue iirc04:46
tonyyarussofsn: Yeah, that's fine.  See the channel info or !pastebin for the preferred pasting site.  I'll take a look.04:46
ubuntu_ahh04:47
ubuntu_proly04:47
ubuntu_only one I didnt try04:47
ubuntu_tyired recover and recovery and things like that04:47
ubuntu_thanks04:47
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fsn!pastebin04:47
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:47
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paladinewSo how difficult is it to setup a secure tunnel using ssh from a xp box to my ubuntu box and setup a vnc session ????04:48
tonyyarussofsn: For /dev/hda5, make the line 'root     (hd0,4)'.04:48
fsnalright, i'll try that, thanks04:48
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meuserjpaladinew: not hard04:49
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tonyyarussoAh, much better.  And rsync tells me which directory it's dealing with too; scp just said the filename.04:49
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ironucklesCan anyone recommend a good scheduler/organizer for Gnome?04:50
intelikeyat04:50
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jeff_iiheya.04:50
tonyyarussoironuckles, I don't use it myself, but Evolution's said to be good for that, as well as being an e-mail client.04:50
meuserjpaladinew: use putty... somewhere in the option three is ssh tunnels.. set a local port forward from 5900 on the local box to 5900 on the remote box04:51
xsmogxWhen you install ubuntu do you set root password or is there a default one?04:51
meuserjpaladinew: then vnc to localhost04:51
meuserjpaladinew: and everything will be forwarded through the tunnel.04:51
meuserj!tell xsmogx about sudo04:51
ironucklestonyyarusso, thanks04:51
jeff_iihaving issues attempting to use j2re1.5 - stuck with libc.so.6 : cannot open shared object messages.  anyone have an idea?04:51
Agamottoxsmogx:  generally, there isn't a root password as you use the SUperDO command04:51
wweaselCould someone help me? I am following the instructions on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732 I am confused by Step 2, because I don't have a deb of Firefox 1.5. What do I do instead?04:52
xsmogxWhat's the SuperDo command?04:52
tonyyarussoxsmogx, Are you referring to sudo, perchance?04:52
wweaselxmogx: lets you do something as root.04:52
AgamottoYep, my own little take on sudo :)04:52
intelikeyAgamotto i thought it was "Super User DO"04:52
xsmogxI tried su04:52
meuserjxsmogx: "sudo <command>"04:53
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meuserj!tell xsmogx about sudo04:53
intelikeycant su without there being a password for the user you su to04:53
wweaselcould someone help me with the instructions on this website? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8473204:53
jeff_iiwweasel: just did that today - get the official mozilla.com/firefox .tar.gz and drop it into a directory04:53
P8ntKidWhy does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?04:53
DjKriticalanyone know how to jumpstart a usb device?... I'm remoted into this computer and I want to bring up my usb camera ;(04:53
tonyyarussoOff topic: Anyone know what a .imz file extension would be?  (IBM Rescue and Recovery partition, Windows)04:53
wweaseljeff_ii. ok. i dropped it into a directory. is that all i need to do to install it?04:53
jeff_iiwweasel> then have the script point to the newly-dropped firefox.04:53
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AgamottoDjKritical:  mount /dev/sda?04:54
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wweaseljeff_ii. oh, cool! perfect, thanks04:54
jeff_iiwweasel> yes, that's all. :)04:54
xsmogxso lets say I downloaded aim, I'd have to sudo before I untar?04:54
psusitonyyarusso, my guess is a compressed image file of the main partition as it was shipped from the factory04:54
Agamottoxsmogx:  Generally, yes.  Exceptions can be made for groups and/or users04:54
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DjKriticalAgamotto,  mount: can't find /mnt/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:55
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DjKriticaloh04:55
DjKriticaldev04:55
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: How goes it?04:55
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xsmogxHow do I set a root password?04:55
xsmogxor is it not recommended04:55
DjKriticalAgamotto, same thing with /dev/sda04:55
AgamottoHrm04:55
wweaseljeff_ii: how do i create the script? sorry, a bit clueless at this point04:55
tonyyarussopsusi, Sounds plausible.  And would explain why they're large files.04:55
wweaselpumpernickle: almost done trying the instructions on the website you sent me.04:55
intelikeyxsmogx it's not recommended.    'sudo passwd '04:56
cyphasehow do you restart the dns resolver?04:56
jeff_iiwweasel> a script is just a text file.  so you can either use a text editor, or cat (eg cat > scriptname.sh, then paste contents, then hit ctrl-z).  just remember to chmod +x the text file after you've saved it.  and name it with a .sh extension.04:56
PuMpErNiCkLewweasel: Cool... I hope they work.04:56
BlueT_Kyral: it seems that it's real :D04:56
psusixsmogx, you should not need a root password04:56
wweaseljeff_ii, and how do I make it point to the directory i placed firefox in?04:56
xsmogxso what would be the command to untar 'aim-1.5.286.tgz'04:57
jeff_iiwweasel> last line of the script on the web page reads: firefox.  that's actually an executable call.  so if you replace it with /path/to/new/firefox/firefox (replace /path/to/new/firefox), it should launch the 32bit firefox04:57
DjKriticalanyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?04:58
jeff_iixsmogx> tar xvfj aim-1.5.286.tgz04:58
xsmogxdo I do sudo befrore that command?04:58
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aracan someone here help me with Kino here???04:59
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intelikeyxsmogx think of the command it's self.   sudo blah  = super user do blah04:59
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xsmogxah great, thank you.04:59
jeff_iiara> can always try - haven't played with Kino in quite some time...05:00
arajeff_ii: i just want to know why i can't open a .avi file? it says "this is not a DV file" and then fails to open it.05:01
wweaseljeff_ii, ok, i created it in gedit, saved it to /usr/bin as firefox32.sh05:01
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wweaseljeff_ii: now how do i execute it?05:01
jeff_iiara> .avi is a container format - an avi file can be one of many things, DV (digital video) being one of them, Video for WIndows another.05:01
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intelikeywweasel make it executalbe     'chmod 755 file '05:02
DjKriticalanyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?05:02
jeff_iiara> when Kino talk about avi files, I believe it is referring to DV format content hosted inside the avi format ( the other formats require libraries that can decode microsoft avi formats )05:02
kestasfor some really annoying reason a WMF file I have has fine video but no sound when I use xine, yet when I use totem-gstreamer the sound plays fine but there's no video!05:02
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kestasany idea how I can sort this out?05:02
jeff_iiwweasel> once it's chmod-ed, you can give it a try with ./script_name05:02
jeff_iiwweasel> if it works, you can create a launcher that points to the script05:02
intelikeykestas tried vlc ?05:03
jeff_iikestas> totem-gstreamer doesn't make use of the 32bit libraries that xine/mplayer do, and thus cannot decode the WMV video.05:03
wweaseljeff_ii; doesn't work. i get a ton of errors. pando errors.05:03
jeff_iikestas> have a look at xine's audio configuration.05:03
arajeff_ii , do you know a software that can make this file a DV so Kino would be able to open it?05:03
jeff_iiwweasel> had that earlier today too.  did you copy into that script file the entire little script from the web page?05:04
B1zzearlier today i tried to install Jre for firefox when i tried my user account i just closes down.  When i run it from promp it says Segmentation fault.  When i run it from root it works fine.  Any idea whas goin on?05:04
tonyyarussoHow can I configure how far each 'click' of my mouse scroll wheel moves the page?05:04
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jeff_iitonyyarusso> i would think that's an X-window option?>05:04
MeeKs_can someone help me paritioning a drive when im installing ubuntu05:04
wweaseljeff_ii: yes. except i replaced firefox with /opt/firefox/firefox05:04
xsmogxI just did a sudo tar xvfj aim-1.5.286.tgz (to install aim) then I used a /usr/local/bin/aim to launch it. It says there is no such file. What's the problem?05:05
MeeKs_i have a 250gb hd i want to partition to 10gb for the OS and the 240 for media and nothing else05:05
MeeKs_how do i go about this05:05
intelikeytonyyarusso in what app ?    mozilla has it's own settings on that,  and i believe nautilus do to05:05
jeff_iixsmogx> does ls /usr/local/bin/aim list the file correctly?  is it executable?05:05
P8ntKidWhy does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?05:05
xsmogxI don't see it in the /usr/local/bin, where would it be05:05
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jeff_iiwweasel> still with you -- just reading the page over.  does the file /etc/pango32/pangorc exist on your syste,?05:06
wweaselno.05:06
jeff_iixsmogx> the tar file has expanded itself in the current directory.  you will have to move it to its final location05:06
intelikeyxsmogx probably in your home dir  but why not use   'sudo apt-get install gaim '  ???05:06
wweaseljeff_ii: no. pango does exist, but not pango32/pangorc05:07
meuserj!tell xsmogx about gaim05:07
tonyyarussojeff_ii, intelikey: I was hoping all of them, but I'm ignorant like that.  So far I've been using it in XChat, Firefox, and gnome-terminal.05:07
intelikeyxsmogx this is not slackware, tar.gz/tgz  are not installers05:07
xsmogxoh, I see05:08
xsmogxWhat are the installers for ubuntu05:08
meuserjxsmogx: gaim is better than aim for linux, and it should already be installed05:08
intelikeydeb05:08
jeff_iiwweasel> riiighht.  seem to recall I wrote that one myself too.  let me get the link to where I found it for you...05:08
tonyyarussojeff_ii, Do you know where I would change it if it is an X thing?05:08
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jeff_iixsmogx> you can either use synaptics or directly apt-get/dpkg from the shell05:08
tonyyarussojeff_ii, (Well, I suppose xorg.conf somewhere, but where in / how?)05:08
intelikeymeuserj you assume a default install ^05:09
xsmogxSynaptics?05:09
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tonyyarussoxsmogx, It's the GUI frontend to apt.05:09
LathropWellsIs there an updte for      Fetchmail      ?05:09
jeff_iitonyyarusso> woah.  stumper here. :)  it would have to be under input devices (I remember Dialog asking something about mouse wheel emulation at some point...) lemme see if I can find it05:09
intelikeyone never knows....05:10
DjKriticalanyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?05:10
jeff_iiwweasel> got it!  look further down the original instructional web page ! :)05:10
tonyyarussoxsmogx, Most things can be downloaded and installed through the command line with sudo apt-get install packagename, or GUI with Synaptic, under System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager.05:10
AgamottoMeeks:  You actually need three partitions, one for / (the OS), one for swap (memory swap-out), then your third one for /media05:10
jeff_iiwweasel> there's a entry by tux61 that begins with "Sorry I forgot the pangorc file !!!!"05:10
jeff_iiDjKritical> I thought that was part of the scsi-emulation layer?05:11
LathropWellsDj - the system responsible for USB is "hotplug" isn't it?05:11
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AgamottoLathropWells:  If memory serves, yes05:11
DjKriticalI have no idea? :)05:11
DjKriticalI just want ubuntu to recognise my usb camera again... and bring up the "image import" window...05:11
DjKriticalnormally I'd just unplug the cable and plug it back in again05:12
wweaseljeff_ii, ok so how do i create that file. what file extension,e tc.05:12
DjKriticalbut I'm 1000km away using vnc05:12
tonyyarussojeff_ii, I found the mouse section in xorg.conf, but don't know how I would modify it.  Is there a guide to dealing with this file somewhere?05:12
LathropWellsSeveas,Amaranth, bob2, cafuego, and many many others - THANK YOU! :)05:12
Amaranth?05:12
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intelikeyDjKritical you could try  sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart     but i make no claim that it will actually help you.05:12
Amaranthyou're welcome? :)05:12
LathropWellsAmaranth - you are always here and supportive. :)05:12
Amaranthhotplug is going away in dapper05:13
jeff_iiwweasel> same trick as the script, except that it's called pangorc and lives in /etc/pango3205:13
Amaranthactually, it's already gone05:13
tonyyarussoDjKritical, Would love some guidance on using vnc, if you'd like to pm me.  Tried it out once, but got confused, and had connection refused error messages.05:13
jahshuahey how can i find out what location a program i need to use is in ??05:14
intelikeyAmaranth great; means more automatic crap in the base system right....05:14
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DjKriticaltonyyarusso, sure05:14
tonyyarussojahshua, locate programname often works.05:14
wweaseljeff_ii, ok i did chmod 755 to it like the last one. now try firefox32 again?05:14
Amaranthintelikey: it got replaced by udevd05:14
jeff_iijahsua> which <programname> will tell you where it is if it's in the path, if not locate <programname> will look it up on disk05:14
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B1zzearlier today i tried to install Jre for firefox when i tried my user account i just closes down.  When i run it from promp it says Segmentation fault.  When i run it from root it works fine.  Any idea whas goin on?05:15
intelikeyudev is in hoary05:15
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generalleoffk all rescued05:15
jeff_iiwweasel> no need to chmod that one, it's not executable.  a file that ends with "rc" is typically a configuration file.  yup, trying firefox again is the next step05:15
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generalleoffeasy when eyr not dumb and cant guess rescue insted of recovery05:15
generalleoffha05:15
DJLILYAZIhi everyone05:15
LathropWellspfft - intelikey's ideal base system is Tom's Root Boot Disk?  - grin05:15
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Amaranthintelikey: or just udev, i'm not sure05:15
wweaseljeff_ii, woops i already chmodded it. what do i do to undo it.05:15
jeff_iiDjKritikal> actually, unplugging/replugging the usb camera should force a refresh (at the very least you should see something pop into syslog)05:15
Amaranthintelikey: basically it got replaced by something that does the same thing but better05:16
DJLILYAZIi cant install linux it freezes aafter "scanning  cd-rom"05:16
intelikeyAmaranth udevd is the daemon that watches udev05:16
jeff_iiwweasel> t'snot that bad if you already have, but you can revert your changes using chmod -x pangorc05:16
Amaranthintelikey: yeah, i know that05:16
DJLILYAZIthe whole computer just freeeeeezessssssssssssss help me please05:16
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Amaranthbut man pages say it uses hotplug :P05:16
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  gesh - you still having issues eh>05:16
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, so yeahhhh05:16
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, guess what now ?05:16
LathropWellsWhat have i started?...   (covers eyes.)05:16
jeff_iiAmaranth> thought hotplug had been replaced by udev/HAL and gnome-volume-manager?05:17
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intelikeywell udev should work without hotplug in eariler systems too but maybe they have refined it somewhat...05:17
intelikeyi hope05:17
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, ok so now the whle computer freezes after the part "scanning for cd-rom"05:17
wweaseljeff_ii: it works, but i still got a ton of gdk errors.05:17
MeeKs_can someone help me with partitioning in an ubuntu install05:17
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  this is the ubunu 5.10 install cd eh?05:17
intelikeyMeeKs_ ask05:17
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MeeKs_i have a 250gb hd i want to partition to 10gb for the OS and the 240 for media and nothing else05:18
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DJLILYAZIdr_willis, yes05:18
MeeKs_i have it set up like that05:18
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jeff_iiwweasel> if they are warnings and do not cause crashes, you can safely ignore them.  console output of gdk-based apps often verbosely log all warnings and asserts.  now all that's needed is to create a launcher in your panels to use that script and voila!  firefox 32bit.05:18
MeeKs_but i dont understand the /root and /home05:18
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DJLILYAZIdr_willis, you know what i did too i tried knoppix live and it gave me disalbing IRQ#10 thats it....05:18
AgamottoMeeKs_:  I have already answered your question05:18
MeeKs_i didnt see05:19
wweaseljeff_ii: great! how do i do that :P05:19
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  knoppix live cd dident work either?05:19
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MeeKs_ok i see05:19
AgamottoMeeKs_:  1 partition for OS, 1 for swap space, 1 for /media05:19
MeeKs_right05:19
MeeKs_but05:19
P8ntKid_can anybody help me with the w32 codecs?05:19
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MeeKs_the OS one will be / root05:19
MeeKs_?05:19
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, yeah it did not .. it just gave me disabling IRQ#10 and that was the end of it05:19
jeff_iiwweasel> right-click inside the panel of your choice (either top or bottom of screen) and select "Add To Panel", then "Custom Application Launcher"05:19
MeeKs_what bout the other for media05:19
P8ntKid_I got them to work fine with firefox and the mplayer plugin, but i cant get .wmv and .avi files to play in totem/mplayer outside of firefox05:20
jeff_iiP8ntKid_> sure05:20
wweaseljeff_ii, ok05:20
AgamottoMeeKs_:  I suppose your could do / root, but as / stands for root, it would be rather redundant05:20
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  bummer.. this on a laptop? or desktop box.05:20
wweaseljeff_ii, what next?05:20
intelikeyMeeKs_ i sujest you add one other partition for /home    the 10g for system will be mounted as   /  the root of the whole filesystem   the media partition should be mounted some place like /home/storage   or  /storage   or something like that.05:20
P8ntKid_jeff_ii: Do you know how to fix it/05:20
agtnzhey where is the bootup log (the bit that usplash usually hides)?05:20
jeff_iiP8ntKid_> as far as I know, totem doesn't use them.  mplayer does.05:20
P8ntKid_jeff_ii: Well, it doesnt work with mplayer either.05:20
MeeKs_ok so / for the OS /home for the media and swap05:20
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MeeKs_sounds good?05:20
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P8ntKid_jeff_ii: But, they work with the mplayerplug-in05:20
Agamottototem is useless software05:21
jeff_iiwweasel> in the dialog that pops up, type in "Firefox 32bit" for the name, /path/to/script/script (change path and script name to match) for the command, click on Icon and choose an Icon and voila.05:21
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, desktop05:21
imajuchihello every one. help me out, i m trying to set up ubuntu to do tv-out. i have a sharp television and it gives me 3 options input1, 2 , and component. Which one is the one to get the signal from the computer?05:21
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, i know it has to do something with my BIOS i think....05:21
Markbb-mmm, seems like my machine likes the live CD, but doesn't like linux properly installed on it :S05:21
jeff_iiP8ntKid_> they probably do through mplayerplug-in, which uses mplayer.  so, using gmplayer, you should be able to play back those files, right?05:21
tonyyarussoWhat's it mean if I'm getting errors with rsync in /sys/devices, and should I even be including these?  (Their all pci*)05:21
jeff_iiP8ntKid_> how's mplayer misbehaving?05:22
P8ntKid_jeff_ii: Well its not playing .wmv and .avi05:22
intelikeyMeeKs_ you can use the 240g for /home if you like  but i personally would not.   i'd make one of about  2/5 g  for /home  and mount the big partition elsewhere05:22
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  well thers dozens of boot time options that may be helpfull.. but i got no clue what ones.. time to google for your specific pc/motherboard and linux - perhaps some forums/messages/sites may give a clue.05:22
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P8ntKid_jeff_ii: But, the mplayerplug-in for firefox plays them fine lol05:22
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, i alreayd google my life away loooooooooooool05:23
meuserjtonyyarusso: you should be excluding /dev, /proc, and /tmp05:23
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, i dont know what to look for anymore ...you know what i mean05:23
tonyyarussoAlternatively, how can I make rsync just skip and forge onward on errors?05:23
meuserjtonyyarusso: check the exclude option of rsync05:23
jeff_iiP8nthKid_> i know.  it's a bit of a mess these two.  can you actually get anything from straight mplayer?05:23
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tonyyarussomeuserj, Thanks.  I knew about /proc, but forgot what else I needed out.05:23
imajuchidoes any one has tv-out working that can help me?05:23
tristanmikeI'm having a problem installing Breezy. The main install went relatively ok, a tad slow, but appeared to finish without error. Upon reboot, and after the splash, it began a second phase of the install, it got to about 82% and a message popped up saying something about one of the files not installing or being corrupt and I could manually try to install it to fix it and press enter to continue, but it brought me straight to a tty1 screen05:23
tristanmikeand not the desktop, anyone with any ideas?05:23
jeff_iiwweasel> how goes the battle?  can you now launch firefox32 from the panels?05:23
sanderanyone know what basic package I might be missing.. when i'm compiling.. and getting: pwd.h: No such file or directory05:24
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  :) i got so many spare pcs i'd just install to a differnt one and swap out the hd;s05:24
P8ntKid_jeff_ii: No, it tells me i am missing a codec.05:24
imajuchii follow the guide from the forum but not luck05:24
intelikeyMeeKs_ you can make your whole 240g partition accessable to any given user that way and not to all users, also it is an added precaution if you awax a partition your eggs are not all in one basket.05:24
tonyyarussomeuserj, Wait though, this is in /sys/devices, not /dev.05:24
tcpipntfs partitions are alrite for ubuntu?05:24
tcpipfor installations i mean05:24
meuserjtonyyarusso: ah yeah.. /sys should be excluded too05:24
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tonyyarussotcpip, For installing Ubuntu on, or with?05:25
jeff_iiP8ntKid_> what's the exact message?  it may well be that mplayer is configured to use a video output (vo) technique that your computer does not support, and reports it as not being able to find a codec that works, as where through firefox the plugin sets the video output, and thus workds.05:25
tonyyarussomeuserj, Okay.  Time to try again.05:25
intelikeytcpip no !05:25
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, what do u mean ?05:25
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tcpipon and with both05:25
intelikeytcpip no !05:25
P8ntKid_jeff_ii:  AVI: Missing video stream!? Contact the author, it may be a bug :(05:25
meuserjtcpip: very very no05:25
sandersomeone said I was missing glibc.. development binaries.. what package is that in ubuntu?05:25
P8ntKid_jeff_ii: thats for mplayer05:25
jeff_iitristanmike> looks like your install cd's corrupted.  you could proceed with a manual install (it may not have gotten to X and gnome yet) or try again with a new disc05:25
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  i often install on one pc.. then move its hd to another pc.05:25
picassough05:25
wweaseljeff_ii, i can, but i when i click a link in xchat it still opens in the old 1.0.705:25
tcpipi have all my partitions on ntfs :(05:25
picassoim trying to compile intel's kernel module for my network card, but keep getting: include/linux/etherdevice.h:67: error: previous definition of 'is_multicast_ether_addr' was here05:26
intelikeytcpip so swrink one and make free 'unpartitioned' space for the linux install.05:26
imajuchican some one tell me if wchich entry should i use for tv-out on my tv? input 1, 2 or component thank you05:26
tonyyarussotcpip, Ubuntu can read ntfs, but it can't write to it.  So no, you can't install to ntfs; you'll have to reformat at least one partition.05:26
tristanmikejeff_ii, hmm, pressed copy, but if going manual, what should i do, just install ubuntu-desktop and see how it goes?05:27
jeff_iiwweasel> that's another story.  go to System - Preferences - Preferred Applications05:27
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tonyyarussotcpip, The ntfs resizer in the installation works fine.05:27
dr_willisimajuchi,  hmm.. none o those sound like a way to get video OUT of your tv.05:27
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P8ntKid_jeff_ii: Actually, it seems that the files i have downloaded are messed up05:28
tcpipone / two ... i mean it does need swap too right05:28
wweaseljeff_ii: custom command, the same i made for my panel icon?05:28
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, oh dam ur smart05:28
jeff_iiwweasled> *bingo*05:28
imajuchidr willis i follow the all the steps un the ubuntu forum :( do you have any idea?05:28
cyphasedoes Gnome 3.0 have a release year yet?05:28
DJLILYAZIbut i have two notebooks and one brand new desktop05:28
cyphase:)05:28
jeff_iiP8ntKid_>  that could be a problem. :)_05:28
jeff_iitristanmike> that's worth a shot, for sure.05:28
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, what should i search for in google like my motherbored ?05:28
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  :P sounds like you may have a bad burnt cd.. or a dirty cd drive..  not sure what else to tell you05:28
P8ntKid_jeff_ii: Because i just downloaded a new one. And it works fine.05:28
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dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  yea your motherboard and chipset perhaps05:29
tonyyarussoI swear, I'll get this backup done eventually.05:29
dr_willisimajuchi,  i dont een know what you are trying to do.05:29
intelikeytcpip need is not the correct term.  swap is probably a good idea.  but your system has enough ram it probably doesn't "need" swap to function05:29
AgamottoPerhaps he should try to turn off DMA with his particular cd drive?05:29
wweaseljeff_ii, still doesn't open in the proper place.05:29
imajuchii connected the cable to the tv but i dont know in what channel it goes, im using an svideo cable05:29
jeff_iiimajuchi> how's the tv-out signal leaving your computer?05:29
xsmogxI'm still having problems with sudo, I did a 'sudo mv ndiswrapper-1.7.tar.gz /usr/src, and it askes for the password, so I just hit enter and it brings me back onto the command prompt. Then I cd to /usr/src and it's not there, what's the issue?05:29
regeyaany way to use ladspa plugins with gstreamer-based apps?05:29
dr_willisAgamotto,  i dont think the installer enables dma by default05:29
imajuchivia svideo jeff05:30
AgamottoHmmm, it did on my system05:30
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intelikeytcpip linux can use swap partitions and/or swap files05:30
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dr_willisimajuchi,  my tv has a 'input' button on the remote to change the input it uses05:30
tcpipintelikey: 512 megs ddr400 enuf05:30
regeya'coz I've got a sweet stack of fx right now in xmms that make my mediocre multimedia speakers sound sweeeeeeet05:30
jeff_iiwweasel> hmm.  must admit I'm not using xchat, but I would expect it to use gnome's preferred applications.  if you try to open a link from, let's say, Evolution (if you use it), where does it open?05:30
tcpip?05:30
jeff_iiimajuchi> does your television manual talk about svideo input anywhere and how to get it selected?05:30
imajuchiyes, but the problem is tha mine has 3 input 1 2 and component :)05:31
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dr_willisimajuchi,  so you hit input a few times and it jumps from one to the other...05:31
imajuchithats the thing its an old tv05:31
wweaseljeff_ii, don't use evolution.05:31
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tonyyarussoxsmogx, "Just hit enter"?  That would be why.  It asks for a password for a reason; you have to enter one.05:31
imajuchiyes05:31
jeff_iiwweasel> thunderbird? :)05:31
imajuchibut nothing happens05:31
xsmogxI thought by default there is no password for sudo05:31
jeff_iiimajuchi> are you sure that X is properly outputing through your SVideo out (from the computer, that is)?05:32
wweaseljeff_ii, no e-mail client yet. just trying to get it to work first (i haven;t used linux before)05:32
imajuchiim getting stuck there because i believe i have all the configuration right05:32
intelikeytcpip yes it will run on that without any swap.   not that the channel owners want me to recommend that you have no swap partition.    this box has 64m ram  and no swap running linux as we speak.05:32
khermansAnyone know how to rip an Audio CD using gtkpod to the iPod directly?05:32
imajuchiyes05:32
Markbb-xsmogx: you need to enter your user password when using sudo05:32
tonyyarussoxsmogx, You need your normal user password that you log in with.05:32
wweaseljeff_ii, trying a built in game's online help05:32
tcpiptonyyarusso: the resizer will help even when i have data on a big partition or i partition it with partition magic or something?05:32
wweaseljeff_ii, went into blackjack, clicked online help it brought me to the 1.505:33
AgamottoSwap isn't needed, but it is very convenient when running 10 - 15 programs at once05:33
jeff_iikhermans> aren't you skipping a few steps here?  (or did gtkpod receive a cd-ripping capability recently)?  my understanding that you rip and encode to mp3 first, then transfer to ipod via gtkpod...05:33
tonyyarussotcpip, First, forget about Partition Magic.  I used it on two different computers, and both times it worked once and was no longer able to read the partition table after that.05:33
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, yeah i am going to do that...05:33
khermansjeff_ii, supposedly gtkpod required grip05:33
jeff_iiwweasel> did your changes to preferred applications stick?  (are they still set to custom?)05:34
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, what to hear something so funny ?05:34
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  sure.....05:34
wweaseljeff_ii, yes05:34
intelikeytcpip it is not a question of if it will run the system or not.  it is a question of will you be asking the system to open enough ram eating apps at any given time to cause the system to use all avalable ram and there by cause an app to fail.05:34
jeff_iikhermans> gtkpod doesn't seem to require grip on dapper...05:34
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, the highly recomanded linux for my motherbord is ubuntu05:35
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, loooooooooool05:35
khermansjeff_ii, im using breezy05:35
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, like i am going crazy here with this linux stuff...05:35
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  sounds like it may be a cdrom issue then05:35
khermansjeff_ii, ok if not, what is the recommended CDDA->MP3 converter?  Sound Juicer?05:35
jeff_iikhermans> according to packages.ubuntu.com, it doesn't in breeze either...05:35
dr_willisDJLILYAZI, since both Ubunu and knoppix are having issues05:35
tcpipintelikey: thgt linux was pretty efficient with ram :P05:35
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, as the hardware problem like i need to buy a new dvd/cd writer ?05:36
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  could go get 'DSL' its a 50mb live cd..  as a 3rd test05:36
khermansIs there some sort of user-community software voting system?  like where people vote on what package for a task is their favorite under Linux?05:36
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  or go to the bookstore and get a Linux mag with a premade cd. :P05:36
tcpiptonyyarusso: windows disk management is fine?05:36
jeff_iikhermans> that's one, but last time I looked at it, configuration out of the box didn't quite give you proper mp3s (was setup for like ogg vorbis through gstreamer)05:36
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  as another test05:36
DJLILYAZIdr_willis, i tried suse live also it have me disabling IRQ#1805:36
intelikey Mem usage: 13.4/61.1 MB (22%)05:36
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intelikey /exec -o sis -m05:36
Agamottomp3 requires exteral libraries (non-free) to work under Ubuntu05:36
wweaseljeff_ii, i will reboot my computer and i will be right back.05:36
jeff_iikhermans> grip used to do the trick for me (rebuilding my desktop right now, haven't quite gotten to the "dealing with mp3s part" still fighting with kernel.05:37
intelikeythat is the output of the command i just ran to check my memory ^05:37
dr_willisDJLILYAZI,  sounds like some odd hardware issue then.05:37
jeff_iiwweasel> worth a try. :)05:37
tcpipintelikey: what all apps u using?05:37
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jeff_iiagamotto> makes sense.05:37
GerogeWhello my fellow linuxians, i am having some issues with mplayer the sounds is choppy. SOmebody please assist me with this issue05:37
dr_williswell - bbl05:37
intelikeynothing really just chating atm05:37
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intelikeythat is base system usage05:37
tcpipintelikey: u knw how to get that 'input box' for typing 'hdparam -d' during an expert installation.. i cant seem to get that05:37
xsmogxIs anyone familiar with the ndiswrapper documentation on wiki?05:38
DJLILYAZIdoes anyone have the motherbored 865PE neo2 ??????????????????//05:38
AgamottoGerogeW:  First, go into System -> Prefs -> Sound and turn off  the enable sound server startup... this clears up many audio problems05:38
tonyyarussotcpip, The resizer should be able to resize any partition you throw at it, it's just a question of how long it will take.  You can change things later too, for instance if you install dual-booting with Windows, and then want to steal more space from it later.05:38
intelikeytcpip no not durring install no.   preinstall  use [F1] 05:38
intelikeythat is before you boot the install cd ^05:39
GerogeWthanks a million-but doesnt that turn off the startup sound and everything else?05:39
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intelikeytcpip you can access the console on the installer   [alt] +[f2]   prolly not what you want tho05:40
jeff_iiGerogeW > typically stops gnome environment sounds - app launch, startup/shutdown, etc05:40
AgamottoNo, common misnomer.  It keeps the system from CONSTANTLY restarting the server for new events/programs05:40
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tcpiptonyarusso: data want be harmed ... right.. i mean i have set aside a 4gb fat32 for ubuntu05:40
jeff_iiagamotto> oh, does it?  my mistake, then,.05:40
intelikeytcpip can't use fat for linux05:41
tcpipintelikey: before i type expert or after05:41
AMCDeathKnightHow do I get the file broswer to display the address bar05:41
Agamottojeff_ii:  It also depends a bit on your sound card... some it cuts out the Gnome sounds, others make it all behave together, according to program priority05:41
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davidmccabeHi folks.05:41
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tcpipso i make an unpartitioned 4gb space? is that what u suggest ?05:42
tonyyarussotcpip, Won't be harmed.  So long as you don't try to shrink it smaller than the used space.  And use one of the Linux formats for your Ubuntu partition, not FAT.05:42
AgamottoHowdy.  Welcome to our noisy bit of space05:42
davidmccabeI notice that abiword's spellchecker only knows about English English out of the box; I would like it to use American English instead. Any pointers? Thanks.05:42
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intelikeytcpip you can't use fat for a linux installation     no fat no ntfs      yes unpartitioned  and the installer will make it linux native  'ext3'  when the time comes05:42
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tonyyarussotcpip, That's the initial step, then make a new partition out of that space, and install Ubuntu to that.05:43
tcpipalrite05:43
nox120Hi05:43
AMCDeathKnightHow do I get the file broswer to display the address bar05:43
jeff_iitonyyarusso> i have an answer regarding mouse wheel in X - scrolling is actually mapped to character keys if your x.org file contains ZAxisMapping 4 5.  if not, you are using moused05:43
tonyyarussointelikey, Curious though, Ubuntu can read/write fat just fine, what's the missing link preventing it from using it for its install?05:43
nox120How can i know what is the current chmod on a file? thanks05:43
intelikeyPERMISSIONS05:44
jeff_iitonyyarusso> as they are mapped to keypresses, I guess the amount of scrolling is then really controlled by the client application...05:44
meuserjAMCDeathKnight: ctrl-L05:44
jeff_iinox120: ls -l05:44
wweaseljeff_ii, i'm back. when i click Get Help Online, it opens 1.505:44
sambaseekerI have a problem that transwer files to samba server is slow. For example to copy 500mb from XP to Ubuntu server it need 20minutes. Is this normal?05:44
AMCDeathKnightIs there away to have it on all the time?05:44
tonyyarussojeff_ii, I do indeed have ZAxisMapping  4 5.05:44
cyphaseyea!05:45
tonyyarussojeff_ii, Where did you get this answer?05:45
cyphasenew mouse :D05:45
intelikeylinux could not control access or execution of files if installed on fat tonyyarusso05:45
jeff_iitonyyarusso> then I would guess that you are at the merci of the apps.  found it here: http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/11.04.shtm05:45
cyphasefat sucks05:45
cyphasethe file system05:45
nox120THanks jeff , Now is there a command to know the permission with number for example 400,500 etc05:45
cyphasewell, the body size too..05:45
cyphaselol05:45
intelikeyall permissions would appear as  777   world anything.05:45
meuserjAMCDeathKnight: yes... configuration option somewhere.. not sure if they have a gui for it or if it is only in gconf.05:45
Raven^hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?05:45
tonyyarussointelikey, Ah.  Duh.  See my questions previously about Windows and permissions I suppose.05:45
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tcpipintelikey: when do i type 'hdparam -d' before or after i key in 'expert' during installation05:46
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intelikeytcpip idk  ask someone else about that please.05:46
jeff_iinox120> you'll have to do the conversion yourself, actually.05:47
tonyyarussojeff_ii, Not every app has configurations for that though.  Do I just have to tough it out for those, or do the 4 5 mean something along the lines of a default to use in that situation?  (Checking out the link now.)05:47
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jeff_iinox120> instructions on how to do that are located in chmod's man page05:47
wweaseljeff_ii: how can i get the proper icon back?05:47
meuserjAMCDeathKnight: /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry05:47
nox120How can i know the permission numbers ? like 400 , 500 , 777 etc05:47
meuserjoh.. he's gone..05:47
jeff_iitonyyarusso> i think that the 4 5 are referring to the buttons mapping, and not scrolling values....05:47
tonyyarussoUh, file not found jeff_ii.05:48
meuserjnox120: they are octal numbers05:48
Slaj_RQuestion... If I installed a printer driver from a deb file, then can't see it in the list when I try adding the printer, what am I doing wrong?05:48
dhirschMay I ask a question for the you ubuntu jedis?05:48
tonyyarussojeff_ii, Ah, missing the l at the end.  We're good now.05:48
jeff_iitonyyarusso> my bad. pasting error.  append an "l" to the end. :)05:48
nox120Meuserj Ok and how can i know the octal numbers from a file?05:48
jeff_iiwweasel> are you actually attempting to change the icon on the launcher in the panel that you created earlier>05:48
Agamottodhirsch:  Go ahead05:49
_maydayjay_nox120 -- goto a terminal and type man chmod05:49
dhirschThank you :)05:49
meuserjnox120: rxwrx-rx- = 111 110 110 = 7 5 5 - just use ls =l05:49
wweaseljeff_ii: no. the one that appears in the top left corner of the window.05:49
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misharidoes anyone have experience using DRBL (disless remote boot in linux) with ubuntu?05:49
jeff_iiwweasel> not sure that I entirely follow.  what happened?05:49
dhirschI just spent the past few days setting ubuntu up on my ibook, is there a (relatively) idiot-proof way to back everything up so I never have to do this again?05:50
mishariI just want to know how well it worked.. and if it's a recommended way of doing pxe boot / nfs root05:50
AgamottoThat should be ls -l05:50
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wweaseljeff_ii. nothing happened new. it's just that firefox doesn't have a proper icon. it has a little application window, rather than the right world icon.05:50
Agamottodhirsch:  Yes, what hardware/media do you have available for backups?05:51
meuserjmishari: I've never done it with ubuntu, but I used to have an old sparc LX that I booted disklessly with debian.. worked real well05:51
wweaselubotu paste05:51
uboturumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:51
dhirschAgamotto, CDRs and an old usb drive05:51
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jeff_iiwweasel> well, the world icon actually identifies the next release of firefox, codename "Deer Park" that ubuntu chose to use as firefox (so it's not even 1.5 that you are using, it's more like... 2)05:51
DelvienHow do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location05:52
misharimeuserj: did you use the diskless package?05:52
Agamottodhirsch:  Hrm... you would be best served by just backing up your /home partition, as this will have all of your data and setting files05:52
wweaseljeff_ii. ok but how do i set any icon. right now it's just the little app box05:52
Delvien!grub05:52
ubotuit has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:52
jeff_iiwweasel> the other firefox (the 32 bit one) is the current firefox release.  so that the system menu icon (top-left) is probably now a function of your window theme more than anything.05:52
meuserjmishari: ah.. misunderstood your question.. I've never used the diskless package05:52
DelvienHow do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location05:52
dhirschDelvien, In gnome: it is in System tools -> Applications Menu Editor05:52
wweaseljeff_ii, ok05:53
wweaseljeff_ii, can i delete the old icon on the panel now?05:53
Delviendhirsch i have no such location. i was just looking for the sudo gedit /~~ location05:53
dhirschAgamotto, I would like to backup the whole system. Patching the kernel is painful ; ;05:53
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meuserjmishari: I believe you mean the "lessdisks" system.. and I've never used it, but based on the packages available, it looks pretty complete...05:54
jeff_iiwweasel> you can, because you most likely won't use the 64-bit "Deer Park" release for a little while longer now05:54
dhirschDelvien, My appologies. Are you running Gnome another WM?05:54
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Delviendhirsch gnome05:54
Agamottodhirsch:  Easiest way is to get an external hd, and use Ghost for Linux, or somesuch to clone it05:54
xsmogxWhat's the name of that resource viewer for linux? It shows bandwidth, ram usage, and all that good stuff05:54
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dhirschAgamotto, Ooooh.. Ghost eh? Many thanks :)05:54
Agamottogkrellm05:54
xsmogxah that's it, thanks05:54
wweaseljeff_ii, i'm not using the 64 bit der park release. i just installed version 1.5, and what came with ubuntu was 1.0.7.05:55
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DelvienHow do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location sudo gedit / then what05:55
dhirschI loves my gkrellm, the rubber ducky thingy ftw05:55
nox120How can i start a gui application as root ?05:55
jeff_iiDelvien> grub?  /boot/grub/menu.lst05:55
jeff_iinox120> from shell, sudo <appname>05:55
rhoshello all a few probs i would like to ask you assistance in first my screen resolution is stuck at 640x480 there are no other options for screen resolution and this size does not fit my monitor at all secon is gettin frostwire to work its installed but will not load any help will be greatly appreaciated05:56
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Delvienjeff_ii ah, was puting an I in list :(05:56
dhirschAgamotto, Thank you for your help <305:56
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xsmogxdo debian packages work on ubuntu?05:56
nox120jeff_ii I get error Gtk-WARNING : Cannot open display05:56
misharimeuserj: i set one up about 2 years ago.. ended up having loads of minor problems such as incomplete /dev some package did not belong there etc.05:56
misharijust wondering if it's "cleaner" now05:56
jeff_iixsmogx> oh year.05:56
wweaseljeff_ii, thanks so much for your help. :D05:56
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jeff_iiwweasel> my pleasure.05:57
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xsmogxjeff-il, oh year or oh yeah?05:57
jeff_iiwweasul> eh yeah.05:57
jeff_iixsmogx> er yearh.05:57
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jeff_iigetting late.  brain confusion rising. :)05:57
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tonyyarussoxsmogx, Sometimes.  It is highly suggested that you see if there is a version of the package you want in the Ubuntu archives (check http://packages.ubuntu.com/).  If yes, use that, if not, the Debian ones will probably be fine.05:57
nox120Jeff_ii I get error Cannot open display when i sudo gedit05:58
jeff_iinox120> hmmm.  interesting.05:58
jeff_iinox120> hang on.05:59
tonyyarussoI've seen that too sometimes when trying to run GUI apps from terminal with sudo, jeff_ii and nox120.05:59
jeff_iinox120> try this: export DISPLAY=:0.0;sudo gedit05:59
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jeff_iitonyyarusso> used to see this a while back, thought it was now fixed...06:00
Slaj_RCan anyone help troubleshoot a printer driver problem?06:00
tonyyarussojeff_ii, Apparently not.06:00
tonyyarussoMight want to file a bug, nox120.06:00
nox120Its not working06:01
cozSlaj_R what printer do you have06:01
nox120Can i start an app as another user , not from a console06:01
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tonyyarussonox120, Yes, one moment.06:01
Slaj_RDell AIO 96206:01
cozHold on I will check about this06:01
Slaj_RI tried installing the appropriate Lexmark driver, but no dice.06:01
tonyyarussonox120, Applications > System > Run as different user (if you're in Gnome).06:01
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nox120Unbuntu rox!!06:02
nox120THanks tonyy06:02
jeff_iiwelp, that'll be all for me.  gnight folks.06:02
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cozSlaj_R here's one solution  http://www.finebushpeople.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=98/06:03
cozHold on06:03
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cozLexmark sonetimes makes dell printers so these drivers may work06:03
computinchuckwhat's the support for mp4/aac files like on ubuntu?06:03
computinchuckis there a way to rip a cd to that format?06:03
intelikeywell guys i enjoy chating here in #ubuntu and helping what little i can, but in all fairness to truth it's self; i feel that i can no longer support a distro that i really dislike.   so peace to all of you and good bye.06:03
Slllllllllllllll06:04
Shoi ono wong ora????????????06:04
cozSlaj_R Lexmark manufatures dell printer so these drivers may work06:04
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Slaj_Rcoz: Thanks.  I'll check it out.06:04
viscountany ruby users? Using Breezy and getting a readline errno even though libreadline-ruby libreadline4 libreadline5 are all installed, `irb>name = gets` fails with Errno:::ENOENT: No such file or directory - --readline06:04
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AgamottoS:  Boku wa dare?06:04
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tonyyarussocomputinchuck, Works fine for me.  Those are probably restricted formats though (? Confirm anyone ?), in which case you'll need to get codecs.06:05
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cozSlaj_R also this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7781706:05
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tonyyarussocomputinchuck, Never tried the ripping thing though, just playing.06:05
computinchucktonyyarusso, ah, ok.  i'm trying to build up a collection for my ipod and i know the aac format offers the best compression and sound quality...06:05
viscountOtherwise ruby works properly, its a strange error.06:06
computinchucki've been using mp3 w/ variable bitrate and it gives pretty big files06:06
viscountI've even complied a few ruby-gtk apps and they work fine06:06
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tonyyarussocomputinchuck, Ah.  I listen to a online radio station stream in aac.  Check out !restrictedformats and !ipod if you haven't already.06:06
Slaj_Rcoz: I tried following the process in the second link you gave me.  I encountered the same trouble as arunsub.06:06
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Agamottocomputinchuck:  No one doubts that, but we would rather have a format/codec that doesn't restrict what devices we put our files on06:06
tonyyarussoAgamotto, Do iPods care what format stuff is in?06:07
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AgamottoNo, but my car does06:07
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tonyyarussoAgamotto, Your car?06:09
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rat_hackhey06:09
computinchuckAgamotto, i have an ipod that does play aacs and i'd like to take advantage of it06:09
rat_hackhas anyone got tor working on ubuntu ?06:09
AgamottoI don't have inputs for a iPod, and would rather just make cds out of the files06:09
AgamottoTo each their own06:10
AgamottoWhat, praytell is 'tor?'06:10
rat_hackproxy06:10
rat_hackhttp://tor.eff.org/06:10
rat_hackits pretty interesting06:10
tonyyarusso"anonymizing overlay network for TCP"06:10
Artemis3thank goodnes for tor, someone at clamav.net decided to blacklist my country...06:10
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rat_hacklol that sucks06:11
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rat_hackhey art how did you get it working on ubuntu06:11
tonyyarussoArtemis3, What?06:11
Artemis3what you read06:11
ilba7r!openssh-server06:11
ubotuilba7r: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:11
ilba7r!info openssh-server06:11
Artemis3i just confirmed after reading various reports on clamwin forums06:11
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rat_hacktheir articals about tor and ubuntu their ?06:12
Artemis3no updates working seemed suspicious...06:12
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tonyyarussoArtemis3, As in you can't do what?  Communications from you get blocked by people running it?06:12
Artemis3cant reach clamav.net06:13
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Artemis3dont worry, i used tor to bypass and worked06:14
tonyyarussoArtemis3, Interesting.06:14
rat_hackArtemis3 did you install tor on ubuntu ?06:14
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tonyyarussoCan I make a line specify a section on a repo?  I want to get something from 'sound' in universe, but don't want to load the whole universe database (slow connection).06:16
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rat_hack=\06:16
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nox120Where is the apache2 website folder06:17
nox120?06:17
Slaj_Rcoz:  I installed two new drivers, but they don't show up in the "Add a Printer" driver selection list.  Where do I find the drivers?06:17
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dissolutionsserver irc.governmentsecurity.org06:18
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Kyral...06:18
rat_hack...06:18
Fujitsutonyyarusso: no.06:18
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tonyyarussoFujitsu, Okay.  Oh well.06:18
Fujitsunox120: /var/www06:18
FujitsuAhh. It feels good to be back. I haven't been here in a couple of weeks...06:19
tonyyarussoThat would be a nice feature, btw.  Low demand though, I'm sure, so probably not going to happen.06:19
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cozOk there is a screen ruler at iconico.com that is really great but they have had only one person write them to create a linux version, and i was that one person.06:20
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FujitsuIt would require a complete redesign of the APT system.06:20
cozwrite these people to get this great screen ruler onboard ubuntu06:20
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Fujitsucoz, it isn't free, is it?06:22
tonyyarussoCan I make a looping thing on the command line saying "run this, and then do it again every 5 minutes", or would I have to set up cron for it?  (It would be temporary.)06:23
FujitsuYes.06:24
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sethktonyyarusso, you can loop, you can use at, you can use cron, lots of ways06:24
FujitsuYou can write a bash script with a loop containing the command and 'sleep 300'06:24
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CarlFKtonyyarusso: watch06:26
CarlFKsethk, Fujitsu - man watch too ;)06:27
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KingTigerhello06:27
sethkCarlFK, that's sort of backhanded, but I guess it works06:27
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michael__k, close to fixing my problem - I'm logged in as a user i created for somebody else. I know what I've always used as my root password, but it's not allowing me to log in as root from this account. I'm assuning that this account just isn't allowed to have root priveleges, so... If I log into a terminal my account then root w/ Ctrl+Alt+F1, how can I et this account to be able to use root?06:27
CarlFKsethk: how so?  seems watch is exactly what is needed06:28
michael__I figure I edited a file in a bad way thats causing my error on log-in, so I'm just going to create a new account for myself06:28
sethkCarlFK, the purpose of watch is just that, to watch something.  Not to do something periodically.06:28
E7h3rN37i was wondering if the intel x86 distro will run on an AMD64 CPU?06:29
FujitsuYes, it will.06:29
CarlFKmichael__: "log in as root" or "do something as root" ?06:29
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E7h3rN37and it will have the architectur support that the 64bit version doesnt?06:29
michael__i was to add pam to the sudoers account - where is it at?06:29
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E7h3rN37like flash06:29
AgamottoTime to rest, I am starting to nod off06:29
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mike_wow, this is my first time in IRC06:30
CarlFKmichael__: /etc/sudoers06:30
tonyyarussoThanks CarlFK.06:30
Fujitsumike_ welcome.06:30
CarlFKmichael__: but I think there is 'right way' to edit that06:30
mike_thank you06:30
michael__how is that?06:30
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michael__i have it open in nano right now06:30
tonyyarussoseth_k, Fujitsu: I'd bother to make a script if I was planning on doing it much, but his is really just for today.06:30
sethkmichael__, you use visudo06:31
mike_I can't get my Ubuntu box to print to my Canon Pixma printer.  I guess that's to be expected?06:31
sethkmichael__, that's why there is a comment at the beginning of the file saying DON'T EDIT THIS06:31
CarlFKvisudo06:31
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Johnny0Evening all06:32
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nox120tar -zxvf /../../home/nox120/Desktop/Downloads/phpMyAdmin-2.7.0-pl2.zip06:32
nox120gzip: stdin has more than one entry--rest ignored06:32
nox120.06:32
nox120Anyone can help?06:32
michael__visudo just opens the file in nano06:32
Johnny0Anyone know how I can use Firefox to play www.launch.com ?06:32
Johnny0They both require IE06:32
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GranisHow much time should I expect a compilation of the kernel 2.6.12-9 to take on a P4 3GHz with 512MN RAM, approximatly?06:33
Johnny0xm-radio and launch.com06:33
CarlFKwhat java package do I need to apt-get to run Azureus ?06:33
CarlFKGranis: 20 min (wag)06:34
Kyralubotu: tell CarlFK about SunJava06:34
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michael__can't I just add a comment then pam ALL=(ALL) ALL06:34
GranisCarlFK Ok thanks, then i wont go to sleep quite yet :)06:34
mike_You can listen to Chaotic Lifestyles Radio using Ubuntu (www.chaoticlifestyles.com)06:34
tonyyarussoIs this a valid way to say this option for rsync?: --exclude="proc,dev,sys,tmp"06:34
Johnny0mike - Im wanting to listen to my xm-radio account06:35
sethkmichael__, sure you can.  you shouldn't, but you can06:35
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madewokherdJohnny0: what format do they use?06:35
nox120What would be the good Chmod permission for my /var/www folder?06:36
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CarlFKnox120: 000 is safest ;)06:36
Fujitsunox120: as it is?06:36
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Johnny0windows media player06:36
billytwowillydoesn't 000 stop even root from doing anything to the file?06:37
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michael__i typed man visudo and got into the file - how do i close out of viewing it?06:37
Johnny0would this be the plugin for netscape I am needing ?06:37
CarlFKbillytwowilly: right.  can't get much safer than that06:37
madewokherduh, you're using linux, right?06:37
sethkmichael__, the man page you mean?  q06:38
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michael__ty06:38
nox120Fujitsu i want to set it to 010 so i can set all files , then swittch it to default06:38
billytwowillyCarlFK, lol. I was just making sure. I haven't done file permissions in a long time;)06:38
freelovehelp me!06:38
Johnny0Im using ubuntu - yes06:38
CarlFKmichael__: :q<enter>06:38
nox120What is default chmod for /var/www folder06:38
madewokherdJohnny0: then presumably it's covered somewhere in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats :/06:38
tonyyarussobillytwowilly, Root could still chmod it later though.06:38
tonyyarusso(Right?)06:38
techis there anyone knows how to set the monitor not to automatic shut off while at standby?06:38
CarlFKmichael__: thats 3 keys - collen q enter06:38
freelovei upgraded an app with synaptic........now i want old one back.......how do i do this?06:38
Fujitsutonyyarusso: Of course.06:39
Johnny0madewokherd: Im new to the ubuntu world06:39
Fujitsufreelove: Why?06:39
Johnny0if I had hours to read and resolve every issue Im having - I wouldn't be here :)06:39
freeloveFujitsu: for some reason......plz just tell me how to downgrade the ap with synaptic??06:39
tonyyarussoOkay, I give up.  man rsync just isn't doing it for me to understand syntax.  How do I exclude multiple subdirectories of what I'm doing with rsync -a?06:39
madewokherdI think you want The Codecs section06:39
michael__damn, still not working06:39
Fujitsufreelove: On one of the menus is a 'Force version' option.06:40
madewokherdwhere it gives you a package to download and install06:40
michael__how can i add a user to the admin group via term06:40
madewokherdand the the mozilla plugin for mplayer06:40
sethkmichael__, usermod06:40
madewokherdwhich is called mozilla-mplayer06:40
michael__ty06:40
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madewokherdI *think* that should cover it :/06:40
freeloveFujitsu: but its not black.....i mean its faded......i cant click there!06:40
FujitsuHave you got the package selected?06:41
tonyyarussoIt doesn't seem to like what I'm trying, so if anyone could give an example multi-directory exclude option to pass to rsync that would be great.06:41
Johnny0looking now madewokherd06:41
michael__damn, do i need to log out to reset my privs?06:42
CarlFKmichael__: no06:42
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michael__it's not working06:42
freeloveFujitsu: yes ive got it selected still dont get that option......06:42
SenayB0x0rhey, does ubuntu automatically mount a newly added hard disk?06:43
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CarlFKmichael__: make it work ;)06:43
Fujitsufreelove: Very odd.06:43
sethkSenayB0x0r, no06:43
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SenayB0x0rbummer06:43
SenayB0x0rso how would i go about doing so...06:43
borisattvahello please06:43
michael__:'(06:43
CarlFKmichael__: you can use the su command to switch user to the user that currently does have sudo privs, and fix things that way06:43
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tonyyarussoI need to exclude /proc, /dev, /sys, and /tmp from rsync -av  /  192.168.1.10:/tonybackup/, and I can't figure out how to work the exclude option.06:44
srihey daniel_s !06:44
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christsHey guys06:44
michael__i've been trying to make this account have sudo privs so that i can add an account - because the one that does have su privs won't work - i screwed it up06:45
CarlFKKyral:  what java package is top of the list for dapper users?  as in, which one should I bother trying and sending off bug reports if it doesn't work?06:45
christsAnyone know how to mount a usb flash drive in Ubuntu 5.10?06:45
Linuturkwhat benefits does the install DVD have over the install CD?06:45
threadI'm wondering why I can't mount this external drive... and also it's not appearing to partition for the full 200Gb capacity... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11167806:45
tonyyarussochrists, Plug it in works for me, so if you're having issues, no.06:46
christs:(06:46
daniel_sim trying to use ndiswrapper and the 'modprobe' step cannot find the kernel module06:46
freelovehow do i downgrade an app with apt?06:46
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borisattvais there any negative sides to installing Kubuntu packages into a stable version of Ubuntu?06:46
Linuturkwhat benefits does the install DVD have over the install CD?06:46
Johnny0oh jeez06:46
Johnny0asking for a CD to install Rythymbox with synaptic !06:47
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Christs_servantLinuturk, It can store more data06:47
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michael__i opened a terminal - how can i log in as a dif user (like using sudo -s, but not for root)06:47
raghuLinuturk, more packages06:47
Christs_servantSo you could have 1 dvd instead of 4 cds06:47
freelovehow do i downgrade an app with apt?06:47
borisattvalinu: dvd dobles as a live which make sit perfect for previews, but a down side is that not all pc's dvd drive are able to boot from it.. found that out the hard way06:47
Linuturkis there a list of those packages?06:48
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raghufreelove, apt-get install appname06:48
michael__i want to run a term window as my installed user, then use that to login as su06:48
nox120I dont have php4 when i do apt-get install php4 , how can i get more sources??06:48
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freeloveraghu: i meant how do i downgrade it?06:49
tonyyarussofreelove, See if man apt-get says something about forcing version.06:49
raghufreelove, you me remove?06:49
Linuturkis there a list of those packages?06:49
freeloveraghu: no......install an older version......06:50
CarlFKmichael__: su -06:51
raghufreelove, not preffered06:51
borisattvalinu: if there is it would be on the website, so i guess no. i would think that the package list is the same as from dvd but the 'live' version of apps requires the additional space06:51
Linuturkraghu, is there a list of those packages06:51
CarlFKgrrr06:51
dotchadwhat do i need to watch wmv files on ubuntu?06:51
rat_hackcan anyone help me get tor working ?06:51
nox120I dont have Php4 on my apt-get , how can i fix this ???06:51
rat_hacki'm getting errors06:51
rat_hack=\06:51
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raghuLinuturk, you to check in ubuntu site06:52
Kyralubotu: tell nox120 about repos06:52
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nox120!easysource06:52
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:52
michael__k, i think i can do this now - what is the program that edits users(graphically)06:52
tonyyarusso!tell dotchad about restrictedformats06:53
sampanhow do i reformat/repartition a HD that is connected via USB?06:53
dotchad?06:53
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Linuturkraghu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=DVD+contents&titlesearch=Titles06:54
sethksampan, the same way as any other drive connection06:54
quackercfdisk /dev/usb0  (for the first USB dev)06:55
quackeri.e the first partition06:55
sampansethk  hrmmmm ... i can't see any GUI tool to do that ... so i'm kinda looking for a cli hint (and i've never done partitioning/formatting via cli)06:55
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quackerIf you need to find USB buses, use lsusb06:55
sampanquacker  what if there are currently 5 partitions and i want to delete all but 2?06:56
sethksampan, you partition with fdisk, and you format with mkfs06:56
quackerman cfdisk06:56
sampank -- i shall do teh reading :)06:56
CaptainMorganthe ?06:56
quackeralso, gparted or qtparted can 'automate' many tasks if you have them installed06:56
CaptainMorgant eh ?06:57
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quackerI believe that one or the other of them default installs with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop06:57
quackerOh great, another grammar/spelling Nazi06:57
quacker=P06:57
CaptainMorganno exactly :/06:58
Linuturkcan anyone point me to the contents of the ubuntu install DVD's? I've searched the wiki and forums with no results.06:58
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CaptainMorgant e h in xchat is corrected automatically with the.. weird06:58
freeloveive installed w32codecs.......but kaffeine cant play rm files.....says "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so.6.0"06:58
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Toma-CaptainMorgan: its for the people like me that suck at speel typing :)06:59
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quackerLinuturk, what do you mean?  Please rephrase your question.06:59
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CarlFKas long as there is a lul...06:59
quackerCaptainMorgan, that's a rummy thing to do -- aarrrghh06:59
Linuturkquacker, I need to know what packages are on the DVD to see if it will help me with my problem06:59
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CarlFKfor those of you that duel boot, http://www.fs-driver.org "provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."07:00
quackerLinuturk, have you got Ubuntu installed?07:00
freeloveive installed w32codecs.......but kaffeine cant play rm files.....says "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so.6.0"07:00
eXcentraSo I just got the new kernel and when I boot up Ubuntu, it shows the boot screen thing but it shows up as xubuntu07:00
quackerfreelove, kaffeine-xine or kaffeine-gstreamer ?07:00
emachine_freelove, you need mplayer07:00
Linuturkquacker, no, i don't. I've got to use ndiswrapper-utils for my wireless before I can get net access with linux07:00
eXcentrait doesn't bother me, but how do i change it to normal ubuntu?07:00
freelovequacker: kaffeine-xine07:01
emachine_freelove, and why kaffeine?07:01
Linuturkquacker, so, I've got to see if that package is on the DVD07:01
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freeloveemachine_: mplayer is installed07:01
Davey`eXcentra: hehe, mine shows up as Kubuntu :/07:01
eXcentralol :|07:01
freeloveemachine_: amarok and xine also give same error07:01
Sturgeonfreelove: do mplayer and totem play those files?07:01
Toma-CaptainMorgan: click Settings > Advanced > Auto replace. you can set other common mistypes in there or remove the 'teh' replacer07:01
emachine_freelove, do you have the mplayer plugin installed?07:01
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freeloveemachine_: yes07:01
freeloveSturgeon: lemme se.....07:01
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emachine_freelove, and how are you trying to play rm files?07:02
quackerLinuturk, it should autorun so you can browse it under window, but you'll h ave to know the specific filesnames of the packages you are looking for.07:02
quackerOtherwise you're stuck searching Ubuntu.Com as per usual07:02
CaptainMorganlol Toma-  why do I have that as the only term in listed?07:02
CaptainMorganweird07:02
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freeloveSturgeon: yes mplayer plays it07:03
Ripperi need help07:03
Linuturkquacker, I haven't downloaded it yet. I want to make sure it's worth the several hours it's going to take to download. and, I've searched ubuntu.com07:03
Sturgeonthen use mplayer07:03
quackerWhat pkgs do you want -- maybe I know if they're there07:03
Toma-CaptainMorgan: just to demonstrate what it can do i guess07:03
Linuturkquacker, ndiswrapper-utils07:03
cafuegoquacker: Ever tried 'apt-file' ?07:03
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Ripperhow do i set up my wireless card ?07:03
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Toma-CaptainMorgan: if anyone else uses xchat in your family, try replace "asl" with something silly :P07:03
quackerLinuturk, just bite the bullet07:03
quackercafuego, he doesn't have Linux installed -- duhhh.07:03
cafuegoquacker: Joyful.07:04
freelovemplayer plays the rm files but xine cant07:04
Linuturkquacker, I could, or I could just go to work Friday and use the LAN. I'd rather not spend my time at work though07:04
sas171hi, while shut down my kubuntu stops at the dns shut down. on the other terminal there is a message, something like: dbus_shutdown() was sen but the connections still alive. Ho can I fix it?07:04
Davey`I find Helix Player plays my Realplayer stuff just fine :)07:04
SenayB0x0rwhats the best way to add a new HD in ubuntu?07:04
Davey`sas171: dbus and DNS do not have anything to do with each other...07:05
Toma-SenayB0x0r: stick it in, boot it up, and use it07:05
Ripperi need help07:05
Rippersomeone msg me07:05
Ripperplease07:05
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quackerLinuturk, the DVD is 2.8 Billion bytes and the rest of the available packages are on repositories or CVS.07:05
sampansethk and quacker thanks for the help -- qtparted made quick work of that -- i guess i didn't have it or gparted installed ... anyway, it's done -- thanks :)07:05
sas171Davey`: hm, the deal is, the last message on the screen is: Stopping dynamic network services... i think07:06
quackerUbuntu has about 17k pkgs including multiverse and universe repos07:06
quacker(Debian has 15k+)07:06
quackersampan, you're very welcome07:06
Linuturkquacker, I won't have internet access until my wireless is working. so I don't have access to those repositories unless the ndiswrapper-utils package is on that DVD07:06
quackerLinuturk, why don't you just d/l the ndiswrapper source while you're dling the Breezy ISO -- then youknow you have it for sure.  I'll check my apt-cache too for you.07:08
quackerBets that it's there -- in the base section?07:08
Linuturkquacker, because I have no idea how to compile it, and that leaves tons of room for error on my part07:08
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MyrttiI'm definitely too tired07:09
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Myrttibesides if he downloads the source, he'll need build-essential and lots of other stuff too07:10
quackercd [targetdir] ; wget [pkg]  && tar xvf [pkg] ; ./configure; make; make install07:10
LewsAre there any guides to installing Ubuntu from the LiveCD? I would like to replace an existing Linux installation with it, but don't want to download an install CD07:10
quackersame aws anything esle07:10
Myrttimore coffee07:11
Fujitsundiswrapper-utils is on the CD.07:11
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quackerLinuturk, can't you just the darn thing inwhile installing so you can pull your Broadcom gak (or whatever) directly off the repos on t3h Intarweb?07:11
quackererrr, 'plug the darn thing in', that is?07:12
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Linuturkmy wireless is provided by my apartment complex; no ethernet plug in. I'm not a moron07:12
quackerAhh, Fujitsu-san, you're usefull piece of kit, you are07:12
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quackerLinuturk, I meant at work -- you said you were going to go there anyhow07:13
Linuturknot until friday, and I'd like to have it ready to show off07:13
quackerLinuturk, did you catch what he said?07:13
Linuturkyes, i did07:13
Linuturkis dapper on Flight 2?07:13
Toma-Linuturk: yes07:13
Linuturki'm trying out dapper07:13
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quackerYou want to show off Dapper, heh.  Well why didn't you *say* so.  Get that Wifi up and tell us, where does the community SSH in?07:14
quacker=oD07:15
Linuturkhar07:15
Linuturk:-P07:15
FujitsuHeheh07:15
Sixth|579how do I setup my 3D settings? (trying to setup cedega) do I have to download and install specific drivers for my card? (ATi All-in-Wonder Radeon 9800)07:15
FujitsuI am going to grab Flight 2 in the next few days...07:15
Ripperi need help someone please msg me07:15
quackerSixth|579, they're included07:15
Linuturkha, 4 seeds for the dapper amd version07:15
Myrtti*sniffff* I smell testosterone07:15
neighborleeanyone know where ubuntu might be saving screen dumps after having pressed printscreen ?07:15
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quackerJust installed on a customer's laptop.07:15
MyrttiDesktop07:15
sethkneighborlee, I believe it is in the directory tree at $HOME/.gnome207:16
Myrttiunless chosen otherwise07:16
quacker*snorrrrt* I smell estrogen07:16
Myrtti*kiss*07:16
polpakSixth|579: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver07:16
LinuturkI smell penguin fleas07:16
quacker*hug*07:16
neighborleesethk; ok07:16
neighborleethx07:16
quackerPenguins don't have fleas -- that's a window thing07:16
MyrttiI wonder where I've lost my #ubuntu-offtopic07:17
Sixth|579polpak, thank you, ill try that07:17
quackerAntarctica is too cold for flea eggs to ever hatch07:17
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quackerSixth|579, Linux should autodetect that ATI chipset07:17
quackerThe FireGL drivers might not work but 2D works fine07:18
polpakquacker: it will work, but to get good 3d acceleration you need the FireGL drivers07:18
polpakquacker: since he's trying to use Cedega he'll want the drivers07:18
quackerheh, what I said polpak07:18
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neighborleesethk; nope that wasn't it ;(07:19
freeloveYIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I transferred contents of /usr/lib/real to win32 and now it works!!07:19
MagicFabhello07:19
FujitsuHi.07:19
ysmaelhello07:19
quackerfreelove, that's a good simple hack to know.  Thanks for telling us.07:19
MagicFabusing XFCE, is there a command I can use to provoke suspend-to-ram ? Not usinga  laptop, so there' s no FN-F4 key combination07:19
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LewsIs there any way to install Ubuntu to the disk from the LiveCD, similar to Gentoo's installation?07:20
MagicFabecho 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep to hibernate (suspend to disk) works OK07:20
quackerI guess kaffeine is using statically linked libs (and  not finding them all, either)07:20
sethkMagicFab, you can change the shortcuts and assign something to it, alt-whatever perhaps07:20
polpakLews: unfortunately not. You'll need an install CD07:20
Lewspolpak: k, thanks07:20
MagicFabseth_k: tried that but the key to suspend doesn' t do anything - tried several key combinations07:21
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MagicFabusing gnome-keybinding-properties command07:21
quackerMagicFab, STR is still pretty buggy, so it might not work at all on your system.  Also, it's disabled by default, so you need to enable it first.  For more info, you can try #ubuntu-laptop07:21
monziehi all07:22
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monziecan someone tell me exactly what packages do i need to install to start GTK/gtkmm development on Ubuntu 5.10?07:22
MagicFabIt' s enabled (edited /etc/default/acpi-support and /boot/grub/menu.lst)07:22
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monziecan someone tell me exactly what packages do i need to install to start GTK/gtkmm development on Ubuntu 5.10?07:23
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MagicFabtx., pretty sure the machine does it, it's an old Compaq SFF desktop07:23
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fsnhmm, what if the package i need isn't there? it's askig for "Miscellaneous - Graphical (restricted) > xorg-driver-fglrx" but it is not listed...07:23
MagicFabwill keep looking07:23
monziehelp please07:24
fsnthis is sixth|579 from before =P07:24
leftistyou want to see something completely deep and off the hook, look at this. www.whosarat.com07:24
Myrttimonzie: try to install the programs you need, and the package managment will tell you what other packages you need.07:24
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MyrttiI need more coffee or sleep07:25
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ysmaelhello07:25
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amicrawlerwere are the src for more deb apt gets07:25
monziei installed glade-gnome but it still gives problems on "include<gtk.h> statements07:25
monziei need the header files Myrtti07:25
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amicrawlerand what about nvidia drivers07:26
monzieif you are using 5.10 amicrawler , you can enable it from synaptic itslef IHMO07:26
AMCDeathKnightSomehow Windows was removed from the Grub Menu. How do I put it back?07:27
amicrawlerwhat is IHMO?07:27
Fujitsumonzie: gtk-dev.07:27
FujitsuIn My Humble Opinion07:27
monzieIn My Humble Opinion07:27
calamariAMCDeathKnight: that happens to me too sometimes.. wish I knew why it disappears07:27
AMCDeathKnightYeh how do I fix it?07:27
sethkAMCDeathKnight, you just add three lines07:28
sethkAMCDeathKnight, info grub has them07:28
calamariAMCDeathKnight: go to a terminal.. type sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst07:28
monzieno Fujitsu , that did not work07:28
Fujitsugtk2-dev?07:28
monzielemme try Fujitsu07:29
amicrawlerso how do i get the nvidia driver installed  do i goto nvidia wesite?07:29
monziejust lists python-gtk2- and another crappy lib07:29
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CarlFKamicrawler: no.  sand by...07:29
FujitsuWhat was the missing file?07:29
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cozhello all again07:29
CarlFKamicrawler: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx07:30
cozhappy 5th day of the new year07:30
CarlFKamicrawler: you will probably want nvidia-settings too07:30
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calamaricoz: not for 30 minutes :)07:30
amicrawlerCould not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:31
amicrawlerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:31
amicrawlerthat is what it sayes07:31
cozwell actuall y where I am it is 1:31 in the morning of the 5th07:31
Hikaru79amicrawler, that happens when you try to use apt-get or synaptic when synaptic is already running07:31
monzieits the gnome-devel package Fujitsu07:31
Hikaru79You can't run synaptic two times at once. Close any previous apt sessions first.07:31
monziethat did it07:31
FujitsuAhh07:31
cozcalamari AKA (Squid) where are you located07:31
FujitsuI must remember that.07:31
calamaricoz: arizona07:31
cozthat'07:31
cozthat's why07:32
fsnhow do i enable direct rendering?07:32
cozI am in PA already the 5th07:32
amicrawlerok installed07:32
Fujitsufsn: What card?07:32
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calamaricoz: mail me a cheesesteak, some water ice and a real pizza and wings.. please07:32
fsnATI Radeon All-in-Wonder 980007:32
cozlol well you knwo here in the pittsburgh area we have the best pizza avaiable in th eus07:33
cozthe us07:33
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calamarisorry for the offtopic :)07:33
cozyes me too07:33
Fujitsufsn: Install fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx...07:33
FujitsuAnd see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:34
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amicrawlercan i get xine with dvd encrypttions07:34
amicrawleror wine07:34
fsnFujitsu, alright thanks, ill try that out07:34
cozamicrawler toten-xine is nicer in my opinion07:35
amicrawlerall so can i get all the deb apt get- apps in this os>?07:35
cozamicrawler are you going to play dvds'07:35
FujitsuWell.07:35
FujitsuInteresting time to vanish.07:35
cozright in the middle of an inquiry07:36
cozguys I have been doing a little experimating with ubuntu07:37
cozI always knew that installing on a low formatted drive is best for any os07:37
cozbut I am finding that ubuntu is especially sensitive to a dirty or previously occupied drive07:37
cozeven if it was occupied by ubuntu07:38
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revmooi hope you have some evidence to prove that cos thats crazy talk07:38
cozThe other day i had an install of ubuntu as I normally have it including the debian menu07:38
revmooa drive should never ever need to be low level formatted, that's for the factory07:38
cozI purposly boroke it and then reinstalled WITHOUT low formatting07:38
cozafter the install was finfished I found that i had the debian menu in the new install without having toadd it07:39
cozit was a bit querky but still there07:39
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CarlFKrevmoo: I think "low level format" has a different meaning here07:39
cozi found that uninstalling it was even a bit more querky07:39
cozI had to uninstall the invading debian menu and reinstall it on  buntu but hat didn't do it07:40
threadCarlFK: hey there! I've responded to your question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=62886507:40
cozthe debian menu, AFTER install was no where to be found07:40
cozso I had to uninstall it and reinstall again to find it in the applications menuy07:40
cozmenu07:40
cozI also found it immpossible to install the nvidia drivers on this dirty drive07:40
cozubuntu woulnd't have it07:41
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cozso after realizing, what aI already knew, I had to low format the drive and reinstall everything fresh07:41
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cozI believe some problems that I have seen coming into this channel could be easily solved with a nice low formatted drive and thena reinstallation07:41
AcillI just got a new monitor and I cant get ubuntu to start now. It fails and tells me my xserver failed to start07:42
CarlFKthread: "Disk /dev/sda: 103.0 GB"  on a 200 - no clue.07:42
Acillhow do I get into the settings to configure my monitor again?07:42
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threadCarlFK: yeah.. weird isn't it?! ... I don't know what to think07:42
FujitsuAcill: In a console, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'07:42
CarlFKcoz - I wouldn't call it "low level format" - just "format" - "low level' is a thing from 1980's that isn't done anymore07:43
FujitsuBasically accepting the defaults should get everything right.07:43
threadI wonder if there's something wrong with thie enclosure07:43
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sitehello anyone here?07:43
CarlFKthread: did the drive come in the enclosure ?07:43
threadno07:43
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threadbought separately07:43
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threadand of course it doesn't say anything about supporting linux07:44
CarlFKthread: let me get the box my $30 enclosuer came it.. wondering if there is a limit07:44
sas171how to install  rar unrar, seems like they arent in the repos...07:44
sitei want to install vmware tools.. i did that already but it says u cant install when a guest operating system is not runnig07:44
sitewhat is a guest operating system?07:44
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siteand how can i get thtat running?07:44
Fujitsusite: When you have an OS running in VMWare.07:44
CarlFKsas171: unrar-free07:44
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odathi everyone07:44
siteFujitsu, just like windows?07:44
GerogeWcan sombody please tell me how i can access my soundcards inf file to edit it?07:45
odatjust got my bittorrent client running beautiful for the first time with any client or OS07:45
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odatlittle siked07:45
Acillthanks07:45
odatlol07:45
Acillworking on it now07:45
odatby the way07:45
odatgnome rocks!07:45
sas171CarlFK: ok thx07:45
testmachinegnome and kde both rocks :)07:46
Fujitsusite: Yeah.07:46
sitei dont know why windows runs so slow....07:46
FujitsuGerogeW: inf file?07:46
Fujitsusite: In VMWare?07:46
siteive installed tools already07:46
odattestmachine, ehhhh07:46
GerogeWmy mute button led is constantly on how can i fix this?07:46
siteyes Fujitsu07:46
GerogeWthe conf file07:46
GerogeWthe file to edit the settings07:46
CarlFKthread: my compusa one says "up to 400gb"07:46
GerogeWi want to see if it is like my wifi where i added a option line and the led worked07:46
Fujitsusite: Things will run significantly slower in VMWare, as it must emulate everything through the host OS.07:46
CarlFKthread: so maybe your's has some other limit07:47
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paladinewSo how difficult is it to setup a secure tunnel using ssh from a xp box to my ubuntu box and setup a vnc session ????07:47
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CarlFKpaladinew: pice of cake ;)07:47
n0dlwhenever i boot up i get a message that says failure in name resolution. My internet is not affected but what does it mean?07:47
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siteFujitsu, but ive got a good system, and its running not fast07:48
Acillworked! thanks07:48
siteati x80007:48
CarlFKpaladinew: I just talked a friend thorugh it last week... just a sec and I make some notes07:48
Fujitsusite: How slow?07:48
siteand windows runs so slow07:48
sitefor example with scrolling07:48
threadCarlFK: yea that doesn't seem to be the case...07:48
Fujitsupaladinew: It's pretty easy.07:48
siteit shakes when i scroll07:48
amicrawlerso cani add repostitories to this os  like  deb apt apps?07:48
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CarlFKpaladinew: find the "allow loopback" setting in VNC server07:48
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sitethats slow huh Fujitsu ?07:49
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FujitsuProbably. What are the specs of the host and the VM?07:49
morphixdoes anyone know of an mp3,ape & mpc player that has media library and can handle 25,000+ songs.. rythmbox dies and lags for me :/07:49
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rhythminmindhello i have a ? for you all....  i just replaced an ati 128 med card with a nvida 256.... X failed to start and i'm now at a cmd prompt... what do i have to run to install the new videocard?07:50
GerogeWwhen i restart my laptop it says "stopping wpa_supplicant-not started nothing to close" how can i have the supplicant on so that i can have my wpa settings working07:50
odaton this other machine i have i keep having file system error frequently as it is right now its so bad it keeps starting up and running fsck  any suggestions?07:50
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CarolynHey07:50
amicrawlersudo to root sudo apt-get nvidia07:50
sitehost, amd 64 3400+, hdd total 450 GB, ati x800 pro. vmware, i dont know07:50
Carolynis there a way to make Ubuntu play MP3s07:51
rhythminmindok thanks i'll do that now07:51
n0dldoes anyone know what the boot up error name resolution failure mean?07:51
Carolynya know without it knowing that they are07:51
Hikaru79rhythminmind, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable07:51
amicrawlerxmms07:51
CarlFKrhythminmind: did you install ati drivers?07:51
paladinewcarlfk: checking07:51
odatCarolyn, a couple ways07:51
Carolynodat, really07:51
Hikaru79And then you can erase old fglrx drivers, comment out Module "DRI", etc07:51
odatCarolyn, depends what type of player you want to use07:51
rhythminmindthe system was setup with a ati card at first07:51
Carolynodat, ah that's true07:52
n0dlcan someone please answer my question?07:52
odatCarolyn, honestly to take care of video and music stuff at the same time i would go install mplayer07:52
paladinewcarlfk: on my ubuntu box I only have the built in terminal server client installed07:52
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odathowever i would do it a certain way first07:52
Carolynodat, any of the players included in ubuntu or do I have to install07:52
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Carolynah07:52
GerogeWif a tutorial says comment out-that means to delete right?07:52
Carolyni am booting it off a CD07:53
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odatCarolyn, are you familiar with synaptic?07:53
cameronanyone here good with ndiswrapper?07:53
Carolynodat, i dont believe I have07:53
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sitethats weird huh Fujitsu ?07:53
odatCarolyn, are you running ubuntu?07:53
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Carolynyup as we speak odat07:54
odatCarolyn, then you already have it07:54
Myrttilive cd?07:54
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Carolynreally07:54
CarlFKpaladinew: here are my putty notes that are 'close' but don't give the steps for what you want07:54
Carolynya it is live07:54
CarlFKpaladinew: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~Putty~SoftwareEng07:54
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odatCarolyn, yup07:54
Carolyndoes it matter what version07:54
odatCarolyn, oh your running a live cd?07:54
siteis there a program in ubuntu for burning DVDr's ?07:54
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Carolynyah07:54
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odatsite, gnomebaker07:54
Mezsite - k3b does :D07:54
ejofeewhat is the apt-get command which returns which files a packages installed on my machine?07:54
siteodat, , i can burn isos with it?07:55
GerogeWi just did the tutorial for wpa supplicant i tried to start it but it says unsupported driver i have an intel ipw220007:55
odatCarolyn, not sure how that works with the live cd version07:55
cameronodat: are you familiar with ndiswrapper at all?  xD07:55
odatsite, yea07:55
Carolynah07:55
GerogeWdid i do something wrong? do i need to update the driver07:55
sitenice07:55
Carolynmy friend and I tried it yesturday07:55
Carolynthey were all read-only odat07:55
Mezsite: you can with k3b too - one button on first start and you get to :D07:55
odatcameron, sorry no i havn't had a reason to use it07:55
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Mezsite: I made sure that button was there07:55
viscountanyone know the apt or dpkg command to list the files in a bundle?07:55
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sitecool MeeKs_07:55
Mezviscount, dpkg -L package07:55
siteMez,07:55
viscountMez, thank you07:56
Koruptanyone know why in dapper the Apps menu would suddenly stop working right?07:56
MeeKs_hey07:56
Carolynodat, Ubuntu hides the windows programs from the harddrive better than Knoppix07:56
odatMez, k3b is so overrated and require too many kde libs07:56
MeeKs_whats cool?07:56
MezKorupt - have you tried restarting07:56
odatCarolyn, ahhh i c07:56
KoruptMez: 5-10 times now07:56
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Mezodat: overrated - that's you're opinion :D kde libs - meh - I need to relibtool it :D07:56
ubuntu_jnnl;07:56
Slaj_RCan anyone direct me to a good printer driver wrapper?07:56
ubuntu_oop07:56
viscountMez, happen to know which dir apt stores the bundles in?07:56
ubuntu_jpkpkpo07:57
Mr_Milenkoi like chicken07:57
KoruptMez: (lost track of exactly how many times..... a bit tired)07:57
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Mezviscount - you're on about the apt cache ?07:57
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Mr_Milenkoand tacos07:57
Mr_Milenko:D07:57
odatSlaj_R, ?07:57
viscountMez, I am07:57
MezKorrupt, where it stores the .deb files07:57
Carolynodat, i know Debian and Ubuntu try to make a statement with mp3 files07:57
sitei dont see it support DVDRs mez07:57
Mezvisoucnt even07:57
calamarin0dl: are you on dialup?07:57
Carolynthey don't like them for some reason07:57
Mezsite: it certainly does - have a look :D lol07:57
KoruptMez: ?07:57
Slaj_Rodat:  Specifically, I need to get a Dell 962 printer working in Ubuntu.07:57
siteit does? so when i burn my iso, i can play it on standalone dvd-player?07:57
MezKorrupt, nvm, got nto two convos07:57
cameronAnyone?  Ndiswrapper?  apparently no one is acive on #ndiswrapper07:57
viscountMez, yes thats what I'm looking for, thought it would be in /tmp/apt or /var/apt07:57
odatSlaj_R, did you give cups a try first?07:58
n0dlcalamari, no im on adsl07:58
CarlFKpaladinew: (or someone) what is the command to start a VNC server ?07:58
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Mr_MilenkoCarolyn: Ubuntu and Debian try to keep there distro as "legal" as possible.. so not including Applications to playback MP3's is just how they do..07:58
Mr_Milenkolol07:58
Slaj_Rodat:  How so?07:58
Mezviscount, /var/cache/apt/archives07:58
viscountahh..07:58
calamarin0dl: ahh okay07:58
crazneyhey.. i'm having a bit of confusion / problem with screensaver stuff.. It seems I only had xscreensaver installed, but it didn't have the switch user thing on the unlock box.. so i figured I would try and install gnome-screensaver, because it makes more sense that that has the box.. but now that gnome-screensaver is installed, 'lock screen' no longer works and I have two 'screensaver' options in my system->preferences menu.. anyone got07:58
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KoruptMez: oh yeah, and since i've started the upgrade I'm also now having package problems with cups and the rc file is broken07:58
viscountMez, thanks again07:58
n0dlcalamari why?07:58
Seveascrazney, bad idea, you need xscreensaver :)07:58
MezCUPs isnt shutting down properly Korupt  ?07:59
CarolynMr_Milenko, is there away around the MP3 playack such as a loop hole?07:59
crazneySeveas: ok.. so any idea how to get xscreensaver to give me the unlock dialog box that it used to have? with the switch user button etc07:59
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purpleheart_USMCIs $50 too much for a 300mhz P2 w/ 256mb ram?07:59
Seveascrazney, and xscreensaver from breezy has that switch user thing07:59
Mr_Milenkouh.. you can install xmms O_o07:59
crazneySeveas: i'm using drapper or whatever it's called07:59
MezCarolyn, there are packages in multiverse that will enable mp307:59
Fujitsupurpleheart: Probably.07:59
Mr_Milenkotheres nothing blocking mp3 playback07:59
Mr_Milenkolol07:59
FujitsuActuallu.07:59
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FujitsuMaybe not.07:59
Mez!tell Carolyn about mp307:59
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Seveascrazney, ah, that might be the cause07:59
Mr_Milenkoits just not there by default07:59
Mr_Milenko:)07:59
odatSlaj_R, is that an all in one?07:59
FujitsuThe RAM is more than half of that price.07:59
Seveasdapper will eventually use gnome-screensaver08:00
Carolynah not there by default08:00
Carolynyah08:00
morphix!tell morphix about ape08:00
morphixdamn :(08:00
KoruptMez: yeah and gives about five related errors (xsane, etc.) every time a package is installed/removed08:00
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Seveasmorphix, look in the mirror ;)08:00
Mr_Milenkopurpleheart: I wouldnt pay 50 bucks for a 300mhz system..08:00
morphix!tell morphix about mpc08:00
Slaj_Rodat:  Yes.  I've googled the heck out of this situation, and no Lexmark drivers I've installed are working.08:00
MezKorupt, have you tried apt-get install -f ?08:00
morphix*stabs*08:00
odatMez, how does that work on a live cd08:00
purpleheart_USMCah08:00
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KoruptMez: wouldn't know exactly which package to force08:00
morphix!tell morphix about mplayer08:00
KindredI tried gnome-screensaver because dapper will have it..  it's so basic you have to go into the conf editor to change the timeout time.. dumb..08:00
bur[n] ermorphix: msg ubotu ;)08:00
Mr_Milenkojust my opinion08:00
Mezodat: on a live CD? lol - yeah thats a paing08:00
morphixoh ok :P08:00
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MezKorupt: no - just run sudo apt-get install -f08:00
Mezit should fix things :D08:01
Mezdid for me08:01
sitedamn, why is my vmware so slow?08:01
crazneySeveas: ah, i see from the changelog that they got rid of ubuntu changes to xscreensaver because they'll eventually ship with gnome-screensaver, which i'm guessing isn't ready yet?08:01
Mr_Milenkowhats your system specs site08:01
sitemy windows runs like shit in it..08:01
viscountOk, anyone know how to use apt to download a package deb that is already installed? I just need to examine exactly which files it contains but its not in my apt/archives08:01
Seveascrazney, correct08:01
crazneyhrm08:01
sitehost, amd 64 3400+, hdd total 450 GB, ati x800 pro. vmware, i dont know08:01
siteMr_Milenko,08:01
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Seveasviscount, dpkg -L packagename08:01
Mr_MilenkoO_o08:01
Mr_Milenkothats.. gay..08:01
KoruptMez: will try it... should that also fix the issues with the init script?08:01
Mr_Milenkothat it isnt working08:01
Mr_Milenkolol08:01
sitewell, it works...08:01
sitebut slow as hell08:01
crazneywell that's annoying08:01
crazneyoh well08:02
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liableviscount: --reinstall08:02
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odatSlaj_R, the Z600 Series driver that is on lexmarks site under linux drivers will probably work at least for printing that is what i use with my lexmark until i get rid of the damn thing lol08:02
Mezviscount - technically sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> will do08:02
rhythminmindok thanks a mil... X started right up with the new nivid card... should i do anything to cleanout the old ATI stuff? is there anything?08:02
sitedo you know anything about it Mr_Milenko ?08:02
Mr_Milenkonope.. cant help ya there08:02
sitehow i can speed it up08:02
Mr_Milenkoeverythings slow for me08:02
Mr_Milenko:P08:02
odatMez, thats what carolyn is using08:02
MezKorupt, not with the init script - no - I just edited mine to force a kill :D08:02
sitek08:02
Mr_Milenko399mhz Gateway POS 300008:02
Mr_Milenkolol08:02
Mezodat, didn't know that - but if she has 2 Drives :D08:02
odatMez, lol08:02
Mr_Milenkoand i run windows08:02
Mr_Milenko:-/08:02
crazneyok.. another question then. does anyone know where the system->preferences->window whatever prefernce thing went? or how i can get to it in the mean time?08:02
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Slaj_Rodat:  I installed the Z600 driver, and when a job is sent, the printer doesn't respond.08:02
demonaHAH08:03
demonai fixed samba's little red wagon08:03
viscountSeveas, thats cool, I thought I would have to have the package in my apt/archives and go `dpkg -L archives/package.deb` for that to work, thanks man08:03
Mezdemona, "little red wagon" ?08:03
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Seveasviscount, hehe08:03
demonarecap: mplayer to play mp3's from a samba share would run fine, but xmms would make smbiod peg the CPU at 100% at the same point every time.08:03
odatSlaj_R, this may sound weird but it worked for me i shut down my computer then turned off my printer waited a few seconds turn on my printer then my computer and presto08:03
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Mezviscount - no as long as the package is installed dpkg -L will work :D08:03
Johnny0OK08:04
viscountSeveas, love it when stuff just makes sense like that08:04
demonai unmounted the samba share and remounted it as type CIFS instead of SMBFS08:04
Seveasviscount, to answer your original question: apt-get -d install --reinstall packagename08:04
Johnny0NO GO !08:04
demonaproblem solved.08:04
Johnny0grrrrrrr08:04
KoruptMez: working on a pastebin entry for package problem08:04
viscountMez, yeah, thats really cool, good to know!08:04
Johnny0IF anyone in here can walk me through being able to listen to www.xm-radio.com         or www.launch.com I will paypal you $20.00 !08:04
MezKorupt, poor you08:04
Slaj_Rodat:  I'll try it, but I may just have to replace the printer.08:04
KoruptMez: http://pastebin.com/49139208:04
MezJohnny0, lol - or you could just try asking !08:04
CarlFKpaladinew: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~Putty~SoftwareEng (look for the new section I made for you.  Let me know if it works )08:05
Johnny0I have Mez :)08:05
Slaj_Rodat: How long do you usually wait for a job to start?08:05
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odatSlaj_R, not long08:05
Johnny0spent an hour and about to chunk this lappy outta frustration :) Im new to this strange ubuntu/linux world08:05
viscountSeveas, -d == download only, or something?08:05
odatSlaj_R, like i said i sort of put up with it for now but i'm getting an hp soon08:05
siteis there a good ftp client like flashfxp for ubuntu?08:05
Seveasviscount, correct :)08:05
odatsite, gftp08:06
viscountSeveas, yeah, more sense.. love it08:06
Madpilotsite: there's gFTP, but it's fairly awful, I'm afraid...08:06
MezJohnny0, I believe they use some sort of proprietary windows only thing08:06
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Seveassite, gftp, places -> connect to server08:06
sitewhere i can paste the ftp://look:look@10.34.34.33:222208:06
CarlFKsite - the file manager has it built in.  Look for "Connect/Server" or some option08:06
odatMadpilot, i like it lol08:06
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paladinewcarlfk: looking08:06
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siteok08:06
Seveassite, but generally linux people son't like ftp and use sftp instead :)08:06
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sitesftp?08:06
BlackJudaskeir, I remember reading about setting a flag for the ubuntu installer to support/offer jfs ... what is that again?08:06
odatsite, there is also an extension for firefox just out that turns firefox into a nice ftp client but i haven't used it08:06
Mr_Milenkoif you need an ftp app use gftp08:07
Mr_Milenkoits teh pwn08:07
Mr_Milenkolol08:07
Johnny0Im going through withdrawals meepy metzen_Mez08:07
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BlackJudasgah... wtf autocomplete ...  I remember reading about setting a flag for the ubuntu installer to support/offer jfs ... what is that again?08:07
BlackJudas<odat> site, there is also an extension for firefox just out that turns firefox into a nice ftp client but i haven't used it08:07
Madpilotodat: I dislike it because it always seems to screw up one connection I need, and it has NO documentation at all...08:07
CarlFKsite: just like ftp, but change the ftp to sftp in that thing Seveas said ;)08:07
BlackJudas:/08:07
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BlackJudasseriously ... heh08:07
sitehm ok08:07
amicrawlerwhat do i after install them  the nvidia drivers08:07
sitebut is gftp like flashfxp?08:07
Johnny0Is there no way to play WMA format using Totem ?08:07
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Seveasamicrawler, run & hide :)08:08
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SeveasJohnny0, totem-xine+w32codecs08:08
odatMadpilot, ahhh never got that problem but hey i get a lot of problems no one else gets soo lol08:08
MadpilotJohnny0: the w32codecs do wma08:08
cameronprobably a stupid question, but how do I extract an exe?08:08
Seveascameron, maybe with unzip, otherwise not08:08
odatsite, its called a web browser go look it up08:08
Madpilotodat: it's mostly the lack of documentation that irritates me...08:08
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amicrawlerxine does wma and mp4 and mpg1,2,3,408:08
CarlFKcameron: huh?  exe's dont extract ....08:08
odatMadpilot, ahh understood08:08
sitei see it odat08:08
siteinstalled gftp08:08
SeveasCarlFK, Self-extracting zips do :)08:09
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xaehey08:09
CarlFKSeveas: good point08:09
cameronCarlFK: get files from it, for a driver... for my wifi card.08:09
sagarphow can ig et totem to play from an iso file withotu mountint it08:09
sagarpmounting*08:09
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amicrawlerseveas relly do i just restart x  and that's it  and it works?08:09
sitedo i have to fill it all in manualy?08:09
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Seveasamicrawler, when you're lucky :)08:09
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siteor can i paste ftp://look:look@10.34.34.33:2222   ?08:09
sitecos i hate doing that manually08:09
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CarlFKcameron: worst case, use wine (kinda overkill, but will probably work)08:10
odatsite, you can have bookmarks08:10
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sitehm..08:10
monziehow do i export contacts in some other format than .vcf in evolution08:10
sitebut is there a client where i can paste it?08:10
odatsagarp, an iso or a bin file?08:10
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sagarpodat: iso08:11
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harrisi was wondering if anyone could help me out with someting.. i made the mistake of delating the bottom panel, now when I minmize applications they disspear, is there a way to restore it?08:11
odatsite, i only ever used gftp08:11
siteodat, well, i only used flashfxp08:11
odatsagarp, you could mount the iso but its a little tough08:11
harriswhen i create a new panel, it doesn't seem to house the minimize appz08:11
xaeI'm trying to install Ubuntu on HDB (I've got windows installed on HDA)... I previously had SuSE installed on HDB.   Anyways, I did the install, and now it is giving me "Error Loading Operating System" upon boot... anyone have any ideas?08:11
odatsite, then get used to something else08:11
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Johnny0Seveas: I know Im sounding really ignorant - but where do I find the w32codecs or how do I install them ?08:11
Seveas!w32codecs08:11
ubotuI guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:11
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sagarpodat: yeah, but i want to know if totem can just play the iso directly..it's the image of a dvd...i read that it's possible somewhere but it didnt explain how08:12
siteodat, but i just need to paste the ftp..... its just too handy08:12
odatsagarp, are you unable to burn it?08:12
sitei cant fill that in manually08:12
Koruptxae: did you install the boot loader to partition or MBR?08:12
siteit takes too much time08:12
sagarpodat: i dont want to burn it...i copied the image from a dvd in the first place08:12
BlackJudasNo one remembers?08:12
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odatsagarp, i don't believe it can the only thing i know of that is similiar is vlc can play bin files08:12
sagarphmm08:13
Seveasharris, add the window list to the panel08:13
xaeKorupt: I believe it was /dev/hda    was the option... I'll look this time for the MBR if possible08:13
Madpilotsite: Nautilus - the file manager - can do FTP links too08:13
siteis that a program?08:13
sitethe file manager?08:13
sagarpodat: i guess i'll settle for mounting it then =P it's just a hassle to mount/umount whenever i want to change the disk or whatever08:13
odatsagarp, you might beable to mount the iso as a cd then play it08:13
harriswhere do I find the window list?08:13
xaeKorupt: it's almost done reinstalling once again... =x08:13
sagarpodat: yeah that's what i do already08:13
Johnny0Thanks Seveas !08:13
Johnny0downloading them now08:13
Madpilotsite: Places menu --> Home Folder - the app that starts is Nautilus08:13
Koruptxae: your old install probly installed to MBR... and MBR takes prefernce over partition08:13
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harrisit's not in the options when you click 'add to panel'08:13
odatsagarp, yea that does stink but i don't believe you can just read an iso with totem08:14
xaeKorupt: how can I make ubuntu install to mbr? (90% done...)08:14
sagarpfie!08:14
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AcillWhats the major differences between debian and ubuntu? I hace both on this system and they feel a lot alike.08:14
Dr_Fiesagarp: hmm?08:14
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Myrttisudo and friendlier community08:14
cozAcill ubuntu is based on debian08:14
Seveas!debian08:14
odatAcill, well ubuntu is based on debian08:14
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/08:14
Seveas^-- Acill08:14
xaeokay, I hit "YES" install grub to the master boot record08:15
cozIt is essencially debian08:15
sagarpdr_fie: lol! sorry, i was using "fie" as an expression!08:15
xaeit says "Detected Microsoft windows XP Pro"08:15
Seveasread that page for more info08:15
odatAcill, but ubuntu is a lot more active and little more up to date then debian at the moment08:15
Dr_Fiesagarp: Oh :)08:15
Acilldoes it have any advantages over Debian?08:15
Seveasxae, that means it'll wipe windows for you as extra service08:15
Seveas(justkidding)08:15
odatAcill, ubuntu has their own repositories as well08:15
sitei see thanx Madpilot08:15
cozAcill not if you are used to using debian08:15
xaehitting continue... *waits for reboot*08:15
SeveasAcill, read the page ubotu gave for more info08:15
harrisseveas thanks i figured it out!08:15
cozseveas is right08:15
Koruptxae: good question..... I usually hand compile my distro based on Linux From Scratch, this is my first Ubuntu install08:16
odatAcill, i believe many like active support and developement of the latest and greatest stuff08:16
cozsorry wrong people08:16
Acillcoz: The only thing I notice in this debian install is a lot more of my hardware seems to work08:16
xaeKorupt: "Error loading operating system_"   the _ is blinking08:16
MadpilotMyrtti: nice four-word summary of Ubuntu! :P08:16
Koruptxae: disconnect the windows drive to rule it out08:16
cozYes ubuntu is a bit behind on some things even the applications but I think they are on the right track08:16
Acillcoz: in ubuntu my sound card never wuite seems to work08:16
odatAcill, what isn't working on ubuntu?08:16
cozjoin the many08:16
CarlFKKorupt: I used to compile everthing too.  turns out the distro guys are more on top of things than I am08:16
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rhythminmindthe gnome resolution utility is only going up to 1280-960  ... how can i set this to 1280-1024?08:17
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Madpilot!fixres08:17
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:17
KoruptCarlFK: that's not always a good thing08:17
SeveasCarlFK, not a miracle given that you're one person and they are many people :)08:17
cozthere is one problem ther the resolution08:17
Johnny0Seveas: root@JohnnyODel:~/Desktop# sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb08:17
Johnny0dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):08:17
Johnny0 cannot access archive: No such file or directory08:17
Johnny0Errors were encountered while processing:08:17
Johnny0 w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb08:17
MyrttiMadpilot: those are about the only differences I've come up with ;-)08:17
Johnny0sorry for the scroll :(08:17
odatrhythminmind, what kind of graphics card?08:17
SeveasJohnny0, type the correct filename08:17
Myrtti!tell Johnny0 about pastebin08:17
KoruptJohnny0: ever heard of pastebin.com?08:17
chophi there, i have a problem when installing ubuntu on my laptop, it's getting hotter than in windows. 1 fan doesnt work. My laptop is sony vaio VGN A170B. Thanks08:17
rhythminmindnvidia 550008:18
Hobbseeis anyone here on dapper, and have they got the xorg updates (within the last few hours)?  If so, is X now broken, or does it still work?08:18
cozHobbsee i uninstalled dapper not woth it yet08:18
Koruptspeaking of.....  heeeeeellllllppppp  http://pastebin.com/49139208:18
cozworth08:18
odatJohnny0, hold on use this repository deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main08:18
xaeKorupt: same error08:18
KoruptHobbsee: I'm working through some nasty errors with it myself08:18
Hobbseecoz: yeah, but i just want to know if people have had problems with the latest xorg update, before i say "yes, i want to update"08:18
odatJohnny0, and this one deb-src ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main08:18
AcillWhen I run the update manager and it installs the new updates do the downloaded files and the old files get flushed out of the system?08:18
cozchop has a reall problem guys give him a hand08:18
HobbseeKorupt: what errors?08:19
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KoruptHobbsee, http://pastebin.com/49139208:19
nijeHow to play mp3's in Ubuntu08:19
cozHobbsee I don't know about the update but give it a try08:19
chopcoz any suggestion coz?08:19
odatAcill, usually unless its a kernel update then you have to get rid of the old kernel manually through synaptic08:19
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cozchop no I haven't installed on any laptop as of yet08:19
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HIghoSThe OpenOffice debs are broken though, won't install properly.08:19
KoruptHobbsee, gnome glitch && cups glitch && reboot init script glitch08:20
Nijehello any1?08:20
cozsorry guy someone here should have some idea what to do08:20
odatNije, with what player?08:20
cozif you can get their attention08:20
Nijerythm jukebox08:20
Madpilot!tell Nije about mp308:20
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Hobbseecoz: ok08:20
chopcoz: ok, ill try :D08:20
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odatNije, familiar with synaptic?08:20
Korupt'course I've almost given up on any hope that I'll fix them all08:20
Nijeyes08:20
cameronHa!  cabextract is a wonderful program.08:21
HobbseeKorupt: i had some of those errors, and then i updated and upgraded later in the day, and they went away by themselves - which mirror are you using?08:21
cozchop is haveing a problem with ubuntu on hislaptop08:21
chopguys, my laptop's getting hot08:21
MadpilotNije: see the pm the bot just sent you for mp3 info08:21
odatNije, then add the two repositories i said above then add you gstreamer plugins08:21
cozany of you experienced with laptop installs08:21
chopone fan doesnt work08:21
KoruptHobbsee: us.archive.ubuntu.com      you?08:22
borisattvadoes anyone have any ideas on how to find out which plug in is necessray for www.isketch.org  .. not having this game is the only reason i am sorry i sacked windows for good in favor of ubuntu08:22
cozchop the fan itself may be bad08:22
chopno08:22
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cozok08:22
chopcoz: it works in windows08:22
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HobbseeKorupt: gb.archive.ubuntu.com <-- US mirrors used to be borked, and late, not sure if they still are08:22
Storkhi, can anyone help me install cadega? It says I need transgaming deb package but i don't know where to find it08:22
odatchop, how do you know the fan works in windows?08:22
cozdid you low format the drive before you install ubuntu08:22
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HobbseeKorupt: probably worth switching over to gb08:22
CarlFKborisattva: shockwave...08:22
chopcoz: i have had a look in the forum but didnt get any thing08:23
borisattvacarl: i have that installed. but no go. doe sit work fo ryou?08:23
Stork(GB owns)08:23
cozchop Ok but did you install this over the windows install08:23
HobbseeStork: ask that in #cedega08:23
chopodat: i used my hand :)08:23
Nijebut i dont havea dialup connection08:23
Storkoh, good plan08:23
chopodat: feel the wind flow08:23
NijeI also could not connect to the internet08:23
tonyyarussoCan VNC be used for a console as well, or just X?08:23
chopcoz: yes, i did08:23
cozOk that may be a lisght problem hold on I will give the url for the iso08:24
cozhttp://www.seagate.com/support/disc/drivers/discwiz.html08:24
odatchop, well i can't say that i often turn on my machine and feel the fans lol08:24
KoruptHobbsee, Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main08:24
CarlFKtonyyarusso: for console use ssh - openssh-server08:24
cozchop go to bottom of page and choose cd iso08:24
cozburn that to disk put in cd rom rebott and choose utilities08:24
CarlFKtonyyarusso: "all" unix has ssh client, putty.exe for windows08:24
cozthen write zeros to drive (full)_08:25
chopodat: it is hottest at the bottom of the box08:25
cozmau take up to an hour mor more08:25
chopcoz: thanks08:25
NijeWhere can i ask for modem drivers for linux?08:25
siteis freebsd the best OS around?08:25
cozchop come back tomorrow and let us know if the fan works after that08:25
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coz unfotunately sony computer are very proprietary08:25
CarlFKsite - no.  BOB is best ;)08:26
tonyyarussoCarlFK, I'm wondering if I could use this to help friends, and have a setup where I could type a command, they could see it, then they could type something in the same console, and I could see it, and the output.08:26
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odatsite, freebsd is cool but i believe linux has much more support08:26
chopthanks guys08:26
HobbseeKorupt: my sources list:  http://pastebin.com/49140408:26
cozhave a good one CHOP08:26
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Madpilottonyyarusso: even better, if you can ssh into another box, you can issue commands there just as if you were sitting in front of it yourself...08:26
CarlFKtonyyarusso: check out the screen command.  you want "screen -x" to connect to... hmm08:26
Nijehello where can i get the linux drivers for modems?08:26
sitemore support? but what is more stable? and do you think i could learn a lot from freebsd?08:26
CarlFKtonyyarusso: yes - screen -x08:27
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Johnny0All of our servers are FreeBSD - but I can't manage them ! :(08:27
sitewhy not08:27
tonyyarussoOkay, CarlFK and Madpilot.08:27
CarlFKsite - dos6.11 is probably the most stable OS ;)08:27
sitereally?08:27
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Johnny0GWBasic08:27
cozyess doss08:27
Adrossdon't ask me how, but my /home partition has become slightly corrupted. Stull usable, but fsck always fails at start up08:27
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siteDos is better then freebsd?08:28
tonyyarusso(btw, figured out VNC to be running this from a computer next to the one it's actually one, sort of fun.)08:28
cozdos is rock solid08:28
morphixin a playlist file.. would08:28
morphix#EXTINF:274,8Ball & MJG - You Don't Want Drama08:28
morphix8Ball_And_MJG-Living_Legends-_Retail_-2004-RNS\02-8ball_and_mjg-you_dont_want_drama-rns.mp308:28
KoruptHobbsee, this xorg change makes me nervous08:28
Johnny0odat:08:28
morphixwould that work for relative path?08:28
Johnny0sent you a PM08:28
Adrossi am now on slax, a live distro, with fsck 1.35. What command show i whack in to fix my /home partition?08:28
alvynmy god I can hardly read the screen08:28
odatJohnny0, ?08:28
HobbseeKorupt: yeah, not seeing any feedback from anyone yet08:28
siteand what about Unix??08:28
alvyneverything is wavy08:28
KoruptHobbsee, well... the system already has issues so I might as well08:28
alvynwaving from top to bottom08:28
cozsolaris 10 is free from sun give it a try I didn't like it08:28
alvynbut only one screen image08:29
cozthere are otherflavors08:29
HobbseeKorupt: hehe ok then!  you know how to use irssi and w3m if it all screws up?08:29
Madpilotsite: you're on a Linux distro's chat room, you're going to get biased answers here :P08:29
cozirix is great but very proprietary08:29
HobbseeKorupt: and various other console apps?08:29
Adrosswill fsck /home work?08:29
cozmust have hardware from silcon graphics I believe08:29
alvynI went to preferences Screen Resolution08:29
tonyyarussoOne thing I'm still confused about though: Does there have to be someone on the computer you're trying to connect to with VNC, logged in, and able to accept your connection?  Could you set it up so the server computer would only have to be turned on, and be able to log in and authenticate yourself?08:29
sitebiased answers?08:29
cameronanyone know how to make ndiswrapper load on startup?08:29
sitei dont understand that word08:29
KoruptHobbsee, to put it mildly..... I normally use Linux From Scratch... so I know my way around a terminal08:29
alvynand there is only 640x480 and 60hz refresh08:29
sitebut i guess it means mixed?08:29
HobbseeKorupt: hehe oh good!08:30
cozsite if you have the time try everything avaiable08:30
KoruptHobbsee, actually... I only used Ubuntu cause I wanted something easy on my laptop08:30
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alvynhhmmm maybe it lost the video card install or something08:30
sitewell08:30
sitei think i better run linux in windows.. then windows in linux08:30
HobbseeKorupt: nice, so you are very used to breakage08:30
sitecorrect?08:30
alvynsite no08:31
sitethis is too slow for me08:31
odatsite, what the hell are you talking about08:31
alvynI must say that is the wrong approach08:31
xaehrmm08:31
siteno?08:31
sitewell odat  im using windows in linux with vmware now08:31
KoruptHobbsee, more of the opposite once I have it installed.... my LFS server has been up for six months without so much as a peep08:31
siteand its slow as hell08:31
cozsite do you need windows for something high end?08:31
cozIf so keep it08:31
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HobbseeKorupt: nice!08:32
siteyes i do coz08:32
xaeoutve curiousity, anyone know how vs.net 2005 runs under vmware?08:32
sitecoz, thats the reason why08:32
cozthen don't bother with linux08:32
cozit has few high end apps aviable and the ones it does have08:32
sitedont bother? u mean dont use  it?08:32
alvynhelp I need to fix the screen before I go dizzy and fall over08:32
cozare costly and require higher end computers to run08:32
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cozubuntu is great, right now, for normal usage08:32
coz email, internet, etc, and server uses08:33
sitehm, your right08:33
sitei agree totally08:33
sitei should format and install windows08:33
UltraVi01has anyone got World of Warcraft to on Wine?08:33
cozus the Os that is right for what you need to do08:33
siteand run linux in vmware08:33
cozvmware would be nice08:33
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Adrossanyone? fsck? help?08:33
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KoruptHobbsee, inclusing changing out Bind9 (which blows) for dnsmasq08:33
xaeUltraVi01: isnt there a wiki entry about that?08:33
cozyou can also use the live cds for several of the linux flavors inslucing ubuntu08:34
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cozthat way no harm no foul08:34
LightShearhey everyone08:34
cubikdicehi08:34
alvynok how can I rerun the video card setup08:34
cozLightShear hey08:34
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UltraVi01hmm.. xae -- not that i've seen08:34
LightShearhows everyone doing tonight/ this morning, afternoon...08:34
moodogmorning all.08:34
CarlFKborisattva: dosn't play for me either.  to be sure you have the plugin installed, put "about:pluggins" in Firefox's location08:34
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cozmorning moodog08:34
cozhappy 5th day of the new year08:35
LightShearw00t!08:35
sitecoz, live cd? can i run same osses at a time theN/08:35
LightShearcvs already has valentines day crap up08:35
sitesame = 208:35
LightShearits so depressing08:35
cozno the live cd is a cd that boots uses memory no hard drive usage except minor cahce08:36
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KoruptHobbsee, BRB.... here goes with the updates (praying it fixes this extremely annoying menu glitch)08:36
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dotchadtonyyarusso, thanks08:36
cozdownload the live cd for ubuntu and give it a try08:37
ighostanybody know if the bug where ubuntu install eats your windows partitions is fixed?08:37
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polpakighost: lol08:37
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ighostnot joking :\08:37
hicksyhi. I have a problem I can't get around. I was happily  going through the ubuntuguide.org and everything was going great until i tried to install some extra fonts. It gave me an error with msttcorefonts.  So now, when I am trying to install other things, it keeps going back to that and keeps getting the same error. I dont really even need those fonts. Anyone know how I can fix this? Thanks!08:38
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LightSheari thought he was joking08:38
ighostso was it?08:38
odatxae, whats wrong?08:38
alvyni think ubuntu lost my video card setup or something. how can i do hardware redetect or even jsut for video card08:38
alvynighost, thats not a bug08:38
alvynbecause it was intentional08:38
La_PaRCahicksy, apt-get -f install08:38
blue-frogalvyn, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:38
xaeodat: trying to setup dual boot (windows on hda, ubuntu on hdb). I had SuSE on ... omg one sec08:38
xaei think i fixed it08:38
alvynbugs are like accidental flaws that make some one go oops08:39
ighostwhat do you mean, alvyn?08:39
xaenever mind, "Selected disk does not exist"08:39
SteilIs there any reason why xorg would be using 40% of my memory? (I have 768MB)08:39
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alvynblue-frog, thanks08:39
tonyyarussoighost, Eats windows partitions??  I've installed it on two computers with Windows, and both were fine.08:39
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HobbseeKorupt: ok, and i think i heard the hack for that menu glitch...08:39
KoruptHobbsee, oh?08:39
ighosttonyyarusso, ya i was told here earlier that it's a rare bug and only happens on certain setups08:39
hicksyLa_PaRCa ... hmm it says: Could not open lock file....08:39
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KoruptHobbsee, I could use that info..... cause right now it is a little hard to run most of my applications08:40
LightShearubuntu and kubuntu (Gnome/KDE) can run on the smae machine, right? I'm used to RedHat where you just pick a session08:40
xaeodat: never mind, its a success08:40
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La_PaRCahicksy, close synaptic first08:40
tonyyarussoighost, If there was a bug submitted, you can search for it and see what the status is.08:40
xaegrr... "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"08:40
HobbseeKorupt: did it work?08:40
tonyyarussoLightShear, Yes.08:40
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hydroksydechmod a+x /bin/laden08:40
ighosttonyyarusso, where?08:40
tonyyarussoLightShear, At the login screen, just select either one under "Session".08:40
blue-frogLightShear, on redhat gnoema nd kde have same look but you can run whichever u choose..08:40
KoruptHobbsee, partly..... the xorg worked fine and my init scripts are fixed now.... menu is still b0rked tho08:40
viscountSo is there any point reporting bugs for breezy?08:40
LightShearawesome thanks tony...ubuntu install first?, then kubuntu08:41
HobbseeKorupt: sure, i'll go look for it08:41
odatxae, cool08:41
LightShearor doesnt it matter08:41
KoruptHobbsee, cool, you rock08:41
tonyyarussoighost, Bugzilla, perhaps?08:41
xaeodat, fixed er all up :)08:41
BlackJudasis kdm the only login manager that will run custom sessions on startup? ... ie will gdm be able to do so?08:41
xaehad to mess with grub a bit08:41
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ldmillerping08:41
viscountWill they actually be fixed or will we just have to wait for Dapper and reporting them probably just pointless....08:41
odatxae, remember linux is like golf   can be frustrating but when you get it   its like hitting a great shot :)08:41
Anssi_!sound08:41
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary08:41
xaeodat: ive got linux to boot, its finishing the install now...08:42
tonyyarussoLightShear, I would guess it doesn't matter, but I haven't tried with KDE yet.  The one you install first will determine which login manager gets set to run, but you can change that later too.08:42
xaeodat: getting windows to work will be fun though :)08:42
La_PaRCaodat, wow, that is one bad bad analogy08:42
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hicksyLa_PaRCa ....i just forgot sudo... but after I ran that command you gave me I got the same error08:42
odatLa_PaRCa, you have a better one08:42
Storkodat, agreed with La_PaRCa :p08:42
odatlolol08:42
alambahi all...anyone out there who can help me out with a vmware player problem? Did post on the forum but no replies for the past 20 min08:42
Koruptxae: not that hard..... look up the documentation for GRUB08:42
Stork"linux is like my sister, it can't game for shit"08:42
tonyyarussoBlackJudas, What sort of custom?  GDM has things like "failsafe terminal" and a couple of other options I don't remember, if that's what you mean.08:42
LightShearcool..i've only got one machine running with ubuntu server which is what i'm trying to play around with08:42
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xaeKorupt: im hoping it was as easy as changing the drive ordering in grub like i did to make it boot linux :)08:43
La_PaRCahicksy, paste the error to the pastebin08:43
LightSheari'm gunna load ubuntu onto my laptop tomorrow08:43
LightShearwell one of them08:43
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odatStork, thats not true i play madden football on my linux08:43
BlackJudastonyyarusso, nah, ie run a program on login08:43
Koruptxae: its something along the lines of rootnoverify hd(0,0)08:43
HobbseeKorupt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10935508:43
Storkodat, well it's been hell trying to install quake408:43
hicksy!pastebin08:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:43
xaeKorupt: i made the linux one... hd(0,0) from hd(1,0)   so im just assuming i switch the win one too :)08:44
tonyyarussoBlackJudas, I don't know about gdm, but you can set that up in Gnome if you want something to always run.  Not sure about single instances.08:44
odatStork, didn't i send you something earlier08:44
tonyyarussoWhat kind of lappy, LightShear?08:44
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La_PaRCaw00t, now, thats new, a newcomer with a clue!08:44
Koruptxae: no, it needs to use rootnoverify... that much I remember08:45
sitewhere does vmware store its files?08:45
LightShearHP ze1250..kinda old but has a new HD in it (old one broke)08:45
Storkodat, yeh, cedega, but i couldn't get it working08:45
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LightShearhas a new AMD too...the old one melted..sorta08:45
hicksyLa_PaRCa just posted08:45
tonyyarussoLightShear, How can something sorta melt?08:45
La_PaRCahicksy, addie?08:45
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odatStork, did you get it installed?08:46
LightShearit had burn marks on it08:46
LightShearlol08:46
tonyyarussoOh wow...08:46
sitesite where does vmware store its files?08:46
sitesite when i download something?08:46
sitesite in the guest OS08:46
LightShearand was overheating08:46
Storkodat, nope, i need to pay for it though08:46
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odatStork, ?08:46
LightShearso i got a new processor and heat sink08:46
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Storkcedega isn't free08:46
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hicksyLa_PaRCa http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/663508:46
xaeStork: isnt there a cvs version of it?08:46
odatStork, cedega is free in my mind cuz the stole wine and made it commercial which in turn makes them grimey bastards08:47
tonyyarussoOne thing I'm still confused about though: Does there have to be someone on the computer you're trying to connect to with VNC, logged in, and able to accept your connection?  Could you set it up so the server computer would only have to be turned on, and be able to log in and authenticate yourself?08:47
La_PaRCahicksy, try making the dir thats giving you the error: sudo mkdir /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype08:47
blue-frogodat, nobody forces you to use cedega, you can stick with wine..08:47
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Storkwell i have to go to school08:47
garryThere is a cvs version of cedega. It does lag behind the charge version tho a bit.08:47
blue-frogodat, or windows08:47
KoruptHobbsee, that worked... I could kiss you08:47
HobbseeKorupt: :D  hehe08:48
odatblue-frog, wine still doesn't support mulitple cd installs or i would have  believe me i tried08:48
Storkblue-frog, hah, windows is a little expensive, don't you think?08:48
La_PaRCahicksy, actually... um... are you behind a proxy?08:48
hicksyLa_PaRCa nope no proxy08:48
hicksyLa_PaRCa perhaps the actual server is down?08:49
KoruptHobbsee, okay..... now for the real fun, how do I get it so that I can turn off tapping on my laptop's drag pad?08:49
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La_PaRCahicksy, so it would seem08:49
rhythminmindok new problem...... when i reboot i get a URB - Status -71 & it just starts counting down scrolling down the screen... this is after a new videocard install08:49
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blue-frogStork, to install wine options you need a valid windows license so i don't see the point trying to reproduce windows on something else...08:49
La_PaRCahicksy, just uninstall the package and maybe try later08:49
amicrawlerhow to i gain root access08:49
sitesudo08:49
amicrawleri did08:49
xaeamicrawler: type "sudo su"08:49
zorba64amicrawler: sudo -i08:49
amicrawlersu: Authentication failure08:49
amicrawlerSorry.08:49
hicksyLa_PaRCa ahh yes... so what would the command for that be?08:49
sitesudo.. command08:50
cubikdicesudo -s08:50
cubikdice:)08:50
Linfanguincan i install kubuntu and select it from the sessions screen during log in? instead of having to choose during bootup? somebody told me that i can have gnome and kde like this08:50
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odatblue-frog  where the hell do you get that?08:50
La_PaRCahicksy, sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts08:50
zorba64amicrawler: use you password when it asks for one08:50
HobbseeKorupt: hmm...there's a good question....got synaptics installed, or whatever the gnome equivalent of it is?  i'm presuming its' some sort of configuration to set08:50
alvynok so now that I have reun configure xorg nothing has changed08:50
LightShearlin, yes that was my question a little while ago!08:50
LightShearhehe08:50
Hobbseehicksy: did it complain about cabextract?08:50
Linfanguinthats great how do we do it?08:50
alvyncan I just log out and back in or does this need a whole reboot08:50
LightSheari let you know when i figure it out08:50
Linfanguindid they explain to you how to acomplish it?08:50
blue-frogodat, you should read carefully when u install dcom 98 and similar things on wine...08:50
LightShearlol08:50
KoruptHobbsee, synaptics..... might be the xorg.conf08:50
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LightShearno, but it should be fun08:51
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siteok ,  i dwonloaded kb308:51
odatblue-frog, you haven't used wine in a wile huh you don't need dcom anymore08:51
sitenow how do i start it?08:51
HobbseeKorupt: could be, synaptics is a program though08:51
blue-frogodat then fine for u08:51
hicksyhobbsee dont really know what your talking about.. so i dont think so08:51
Linfanguinoh man i can have my firldfriend use kde since is so pretty and user friendly and i can use gnome thats awesome08:51
Linfanguinnow to find away to do it08:51
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odatblue-frog no fine for linux not just me08:52
hicksyLa_PaRCa no more annoying error. Thanks a lot!08:52
Hobbseehicksy: what error did you get with the msttcorefonts?  did you pastebin it?08:52
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garryAccording to freshmeat, a new version of wine came out today, said some major bug fixes.08:52
LightShearyea lin, that's my goal for the weekend08:52
KoruptHobbsee, unfortunately enough it is also the name of the touchpad on most laptops theses days08:52
hicksyhobbsee http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/663508:52
HobbseeKorupt: ah, right08:52
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Hobbseehicksy: ah, great, that error08:53
garryA week ago, I installed KDE on this Ubuntu system. Things seem to work, but best to backup your system first because some folks have issues.08:53
tonyyarussoLightShear, Linfanguin: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop08:53
XaXXonanyone know if I should be getting hardware accelleration on my g4 powerbook with an nvidia 5200 go card?08:53
hicksyhobbsee im just not going to worry about that msttcorefonts. I dont even know what it is lol. I was just going down the list on ubuntuguide. is it anything important?08:53
Hobbseehicksy: it's just a whole lot of microsoft fonts that you can use.  it's not "important" per se08:54
La_PaRCahicksy, it contains the MS truetype fonts. The fonts you would find in windows.08:54
polpakXaXXon: have you installed the nvidia drivers?08:54
Hobbsee!tell hicksy about ubuntuguide08:54
XaXXonpolpak, live cd08:54
Linfanguinwhoa thats awesome so i can install kubuntu and select it from the sessions screen...will it still display ubuntu and kubuntu during boot?08:54
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XaXXonpolpak, sorry, I didn't specify08:54
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HobbseeLinfanguin: during boot?  it'l let you select one or other from the sessions screen, but i'm not sure  what you're meaning08:54
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hicksyahh I was wondering... Any chance they will update ubuntuguide in the future, anyone know?08:54
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Avenhey08:55
Avenhow do you edit the colors of ssh for when people ssh into my server?08:55
polpakXaXXon: you can still install it using the live cd08:55
Avens/edit/customize08:55
Madpilothicksy: there's lots of official up-to-date docs out there08:55
polpakXaXXon: you just have to reinstall it any time you reboot08:55
MadpilotAven: give me a minute - I did this myself, and I need to track down the howto08:56
Linfanguinyeah like you know when you have windows and linux during boot it gives you time to select? i dont want that-i want to load ubuntu like if its the only operating system-and then i can just switch to kubuntu when i want to by selcting it from the sessions screen during log in08:56
ejofeecan anybody please give me an xrandr one-liner to change resolution from 1024x768, 16 bits, 60 hz to 800x600, 32 bits, 75 hz?08:56
AvenMadpilot: alright :)08:56
XaXXonpolpak, any idea where to look for docs?08:56
polpakhicksy: the new location for the 'ubuntu guide' is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html08:56
polpakXaXXon: sure http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver08:56
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Linfanguini want kubuntu more for my girl i love ubuntu im still trying to find ways on how to hack it and make it faster then it already is08:56
polpakLinfanguin: dapper is supposed to be blazing compared to Hoary and Breezy08:57
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Linfanguinpolpak, do you know when it will be released?08:57
polpakLinfanguin: april08:57
SCMarkhow do I get rid of the fading effect when I select logout from the system menu in gnome?08:57
techonewow I was just previously alvin, and after reboot I now have a good desktop visual but I just tried FireFox and it starts loading and then disappears08:57
JochenHi people. I have problems with adept08:57
JochenI think, it is broken somehow08:57
techoneis this a known problem08:58
polpakLinfanguin: as for your booting issue. Check out /boot/grub/menu.lst08:58
Linfanguini personally feel like ubuntu kicks the shit out of windows08:58
ysmaelhello08:58
hicksypolpak, at first glance that looks great08:58
Jochenadept, isn't able to remove a package and sofar no more able to install other ones.08:58
MadpilotAven: pm?08:58
ysmaelhello08:58
JochenCan somebody tell me what to do?08:58
hicksythanks all, goodbye08:58
cozysmael hello08:58
ysmaeldo u use MySQL Server08:58
polpakJochen: what's the error?08:58
cozysmael happy 5th day of the new year08:58
Linfanguinpolpak, what i dont want is a selction at boot-up just load normally ubuntu with the log in screen i have and when my girl log in then she can select kde08:59
ysmaelhapi new yr08:59
polpakLinfanguin: yes.. But you have windows also08:59
Linfanguinno08:59
AvenMadpilot: can't08:59
Linfanguini dleeted windows completely08:59
polpakLinfanguin: oh.08:59
Avenforgot my nickname pass08:59
ysmaelwhat mysql version will i download for Ubuntu08:59
Linfanguinim a full blown linux-still ignorant to it but learning09:00
polpakLinfanguin: then just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the windows section09:00
odatLinfanguin, you have to use the login screen09:00
polpakLinfanguin: just make a backup first09:00
polpakodat: no you don't09:00
polpakodat: but that's not what his problem is09:00
MadpilotAven: join #ubuntu-offtopic, then, it's quiet right now09:00
Linfanguini did a clean install of ubuntu so all i have right now loading is ubuntu-thats how i want it to be09:00
odatpolpak, doesn't he want the option to select kde over gnome when his girlfriend is on09:00
odat?09:00
polpakodat: yes, but he has that afaik09:00
polpakodat: he wants to stop the grub prompt09:01
Linfanguinexactly09:01
odatpolpak, ahhhh k thats what i get for coming in the conversation late lol09:01
polpakodat: which is why he needs to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst09:01
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polpakLinfanguin: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst file?09:01
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garryI just set the delay to zero so I don't have to stare at my bootloader.09:01
polpakgarry: yep09:02
Linfanguinno grub -straight into ubuntu usplash-my log in screen-i will load to ubuntu-when my girl gets oon she selects-kubuntu from the sessions09:02
Linfanguinpolpak, ok one sec09:02
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SCMarkanyone know how to get rid of the logout fade effect?09:02
Linfanguinit says permission denied so i have to log in under root i guess?09:03
garryNot me sorry ScMark.09:03
ilba7r!dmix09:03
ubotuI guess dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:03
polpakLinfanguin: just cat /boot/grub/menu.lst09:03
viscounthttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2192409:03
Jochenpolpak: A new window appears, telling me that he won't be able to commit changes.09:03
blue-frogLinfanguin, it seems to me u have automatic login, no? in that case get rid of it, so anyone will be able to choose whatever kde or gnome at login screen09:03
techonehmm so synaptic says that the latest version of firefox is installed but I cant run it , when I click on the fox icon at the top it starts and then disappears without complaint09:03
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polpakJochen: try using it command line and see what the error is09:04
Kr0ntabheya folks....09:04
Kr0ntabanyone else using initng?09:04
ilba7rtechone type firefox in a terminal and see what is the message you get09:04
Linfanguini have to type in my name and password at login-im trying to do a "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop" but it says (13 permission denied)....E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)09:04
LinfanguinE: Unable to lock the list directory09:04
polpakblue-frog: no he just doesn't want the grub delay.. He keeps talking about kde and his girlfriend, but afaik the login is working the way he wants09:05
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HobbseeLinfanguin: stick sudo in front of that09:05
polpakLinfanguin: you have to sudo09:05
Kr0ntab!initng09:05
ubotuKr0ntab: Are you on ritalin?09:05
Kr0ntabhehe09:05
blue-frogLinfanguin, sudo apt-get...09:05
tonyyarussoLinfanguin, Sorry, I left that part out before.09:05
techonetechone@dhcppc11:~$ firefox09:06
techone(firefox-bin:7627): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.09:06
techone        Using the fallback 'C' locale.09:06
techonewhat the hell is that09:06
LinfanguinHobbsee, polpak,bluefrog-Password:09:06
Linfanguinsudo: /boot/grub/menu.lst: command not found09:06
Linfanguinfrank@Ubuntu:~$09:06
techoneI wonder if perhaps I need a reinstall09:06
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Anssi_Sound problems. Can I ask: my lspci says "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97" but dmesg has nothing about audio, sound or multimedia. Is this supposed to be so? This is a Fujitsu laptop.09:06
polpakLinfanguin: ..... huh??09:06
polpakLinfanguin: ok deep breath =)09:06
HobbseeLinfanguin: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst09:07
techoneim trying to help alvyn figure out what happened to his ubuntu isntall and hwo to fix it for good.09:07
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n3x Can Anyone help with : Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk - Lilo related Issue09:07
ilba7rLinfanguin, it sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst09:07
XaXXonbah.  my laptop's wireless isn't supported :(09:07
Linfanguinok i got something do you want me to post it here or pastebin?09:07
techonehe wants me to put XP back on the box which would just suck09:07
polpakpastebin09:07
tonyyarussoLinfanguin, If it's more than two or three lines, pastebin.09:08
Fujitsutechone: YEah, XP is a Bad Thing(tm)09:08
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Linfanguinok one sec09:08
LightShearlol (tm)09:08
polpaktechone: just burn the XP cd's. Then he won't be tempted by the ploys of the Evil One (tm)09:09
tonyyarussotechone: Dual-boot here, but only in theory; I think I've actually booted XP once in the last couple of months, and that was because I had neglected to get libdvdcss2, and didn't want to take the time to when a friends was here to watch a movie.09:09
polpaktonyyarusso: lol09:09
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Linfanguini posted everything on the screen just to make sure i did not miss nothing-is under the name linuxfanaticguin09:09
blue-frogLinfanguin, what kind of install do you have, server? apparently u'd better install normal ubuntu, get a grip on it and after a while install server if u have a need for it and know how how linux works09:09
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Anssi_To repeat my question: is it ok if an integrated motherboard device is on "lspci" but not on "dmesg", or is this a signal of an error condition?09:10
techoneok XP is bad but how do I fix firefox09:10
polpakLinfanguin: url ?09:10
Linfanguinpolpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/663609:10
n3xAnssi_ if its not on dmesg chances are it isnt installed09:10
n3xAnssi_: Driver isnt installed09:10
garryn3x that means that the lilo is installed in the mbr of a hard disk that is not the one that the machine will boot from. Thats a problem if you don't have a boot loader, but ok if you use a boot loader on the first disk.09:10
polpakLinfanguin: ok, just change the timeout to 0 and save the file09:10
techoneok when I installed this box it was kernel 2.6.5 but now here is also 2.6.10 and 2.6.1209:11
tonyyarussotechone, I don't really know what to do about your error, but have you tried reinstalling the firefox package?09:11
Linfanguinblue Frog, i have default ubuntu install09:11
techonecould these upgrades have caused conflicts09:11
Anssi_How can it then be on lspci, I don't see the logic here. How can it be on the pci bus, if kernel never detected it on starup?09:11
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n3xgarry theres only 2 disks../dev/hda and hdb.. hda is / hdb is /home ... Ive never had this issue before and lilo is trying to install onto hda09:11
Anssi_That was for n3x09:11
blue-frogLinfanguin, then the password asked when sudoing is your password..09:11
topylitechone: install a metapackage like linux-image-686. it will always depend on the latest kernel and you don't have to worry about kernel updates09:12
odatanyone know where the synaptic source list is located?09:12
aftertaftechone:  you have a locales problem, my guess is that it isnt limited to firefox.09:12
techonethe guy with this box is complaining that the box keeps crashing and mroe often then when it was XP09:12
n3xAnssi_: it will only see it if the kernel has a driver for it09:12
polpakAnssi_: lspci just scans the bus afaik, it doesn't mean that the kernel drivers were loaded for the device09:12
ilba7rodat /etc/apt/sources.list09:12
techonetopyli, how does this metapackage scenario work09:12
aftertaftechone:  what is actually crashing? specific soft? or everything? or the system?09:12
techoneis there a doc somewhere I can read up on09:12
aftertaf!metapackage09:12
ubotuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.09:12
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topylitechone: metapackaes have no files but dependencies09:12
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techoneah09:13
Linfanguino.k i removed 3 and typed in 0-im looking for the save function but i dont see it? is it writeOut?09:13
ilba7rodat,  synaptic is just a front end for apt09:13
topylitechone: oh, look at ubotu's explanation ^09:13
polpakLinfanguin: yes09:13
polpakLinfanguin: the ^ means CTRL09:13
tonyyarussoWhen using VNC, how do you scale the screen to fit without scrollbars within the bounds of your taskbar and panel?09:13
polpakLinfanguin: so writeout would be CTRL-O09:13
garryn3x whats on each disk, which disk do you want your machine to boot from, and you might wnat to check to see if the bios thinks has the drives reversed. I've seen that happen, were my machine would try booting the /hdb1.09:13
dabaR__!win me09:13
ubotudabaR__: Not a clue09:13
Linfanguinand then i do append right?09:13
odatilba7r, yea bad choice of words09:13
Anssi_polpak thx, now I see the logic pci devices can be listed an identified with some globally registered codes, even if there are no drivers?09:13
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topyliLinfanguin: so, on a intel box you want perhaps linux-image-686, on an amd box linux-image-k7 perhaps09:13
n3xDefault install, onto hda.. the df -h shows it as hda09:14
polpakLinfanguin: append??09:14
techoneaftertaf, well im told using firefox then scrolling the mouse a lot, openoffice was crashing on saves but he kept saving every two lines because of it09:14
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n3xwhat could possibly cause it to think its switched?09:14
polpakLinfanguin: no, you just hit enter09:14
Linfanguinis that all i have to do (cntrl-0) nothing else?09:14
polpakLinfanguin: CTRL-O will prompt you for the name to write09:14
polpakLinfanguin: hit enter09:14
dabaR__to save, ya, Linfanguin09:14
polpakLinfanguin: then hit CTRL-X09:14
Linfanguincool09:14
dabaR__then ctrl+x exits09:15
blue-frogtechone, didn't alvyn have a 386 in the first place, then changed to 686. wasn't it working perfectly with 386?09:15
Linfanguincool09:15
polpakLinfanguin: now, to set up KDE09:15
Linfanguinnow to get kubuntu installed09:15
Linfanguinhahaha09:15
polpakLinfanguin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:15
techoneaftertaf, and then the screen settings were some screwed up 640x480 and 60 hz but squwiggly09:15
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garrysometimes it will switch if a cable is iffy, or like yesterday a fellow had forgot to plug in hda and the bios switched the hdb to be the drive to boot from.09:15
techoneactually it all apears to be 38609:15
aftertaftechone:  is it an nvidia card?09:15
MorgHow do you create a subdomain, e.g. foo.bar.com09:16
n3xgarry its definany detecting hda and hdb09:16
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n3xi will switch the cable...09:16
techoneAsus AVX on board everything VIA - S3 graphics09:16
n3xsec09:16
aftertaftechone:  for the kernel, grab the metapackage that is for the processor (k7 / 686) and you can also remove the older ones if you want09:16
Linfanguinok one sec-after i do sudo it will automatically install?09:16
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dabaR__Morg: do you have a domain?09:16
MorgdabaR_: Yes.09:16
polpakLinfanguin: it might prompt you for a Y/N type deal09:16
polpakLinfanguin:  but yes09:16
MorgDoes it require anything beyond modifying the Apache configuration?09:16
polpakMorg: probably DNS also09:16
aftertafMorg:  dns domain09:17
dabaR__well, ya, Morg, your domain has to have a DNS server set up.09:17
hermiesmmm this computer is on breezy but the packages seem out of date, I've done aptitude update etc but ... for example ffox is still 1.07 instead of 1.5 and synaptic seems out of date 0.57.409:17
techoneok this cpu is sempron 2200+ at 1500Mhz abd 32 bit not 64 bit09:17
dabaR__And that DNS server would then hold records what computer is what name. name.domain.org09:17
MorgOK, and then what do I need to do in Apache?09:17
polpakhermies: firefox 1.5 isn't in breezy09:17
Anssi_polpak and n3x, here follows my list of *snd* modules, is this ok, when lspci says "Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97...":  snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc09:17
hermiespolpak, eh?09:17
aftertafis sempron a 64bit chip?09:17
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garryn3x i it boots, than its all good. if it don't check the drive order header under the bios boot menu, there will be two headers, boot priority and hard drives. It the hard drives and then the boot priority you might want to verify.09:17
blue-froghermies, ubuntu updates don't specially applications updates09:18
dabaR__Morg: apache is a web server. it listens to port 80 on a computer it is set up on. unless you change the port, off course.09:18
blue-froghermies, ubuntu updates don't specially follow applications updates09:18
n3xok its booting back up now garry09:18
dabaR__Morg: that means, it has nothing to do with DNS.09:18
hermiesoh...I thought my ubuntu box at home had 1.5 :| odd...09:18
n3xnot with the new lilo tho09:18
MrKeunerhi, why cannot fetchmailconf be installed? or is it just me?09:18
polpakhermies: they cannot update firefox in breezy because it'd break too many dependancies09:18
dabaR__Morg: you would install apache on the computer, then point your dns server to that computer.09:18
polpakhermies: firefox 1.5 will be in dapper09:18
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techoneaftertaf, doing some research I confirmed that essentially everything before athlon 2200+ is 32bit and some 2200+ are 64 bit and basically everything after that is 64 bit09:18
garryn3x cool, if it boots fine, that all is good. ")09:18
hermiespolpak, ...right :| so memory leaks for me!09:18
polpakhermies: yeah.. memory is cheap though =p09:19
dabaR__MrKeuner: do you have universe enabled?09:19
n3xgarry: Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk09:19
hermieslol :P09:19
n3xthats when i run lilo09:19
polpakhermies: still better than IE09:19
Linfanguinwow thanks alot for everything-is installing09:19
MorgdabaR_: I'm aware of all this, except I was under the impression that you could have multiple subdomains using the same server.09:19
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n3xgarry the system is actually booted..09:19
dabaR__Morg: you could, ya.09:19
hermiesso what was that arrogent user paying me out for using debian for only last week in this channel saying ubuntu was more upto date *glares*09:19
rhythminmindwould i want to use a RAID or a LVM setup for a 4 disc sata ftp server storage and why?09:19
MorgdabaR_: So thats my question: How?09:19
n3xgarry problem is when i run lilo to update the kernel09:19
polpakhermies: ubuntu stable is more up to date than debian stable09:20
dabaR__Morg: read the apache manual, or ask at #apache, if noone knows here. it is called virtual servers, afaik.09:20
Linfanguinnow to get my wpa working :}-i will research this09:20
tonyyarussoWhen using VNC, how do you scale the screen to fit without scrollbars within the bounds of your taskbar and panel?09:20
hermiespolpak, lol :P09:20
aftertaftechone:  is the pc on breezy? has anything else been installed or compiled on it, or any backports installed?09:20
n3xgarry Checking bios stuff now09:20
polpakhermies: and dapper is just around the corner09:20
hermiespolpak, is there an equivilant to unstable/sid09:20
hermies?09:20
polpakhermies: breezy09:20
rhythminmindlvm or raid?09:20
hermies2.14 isn't released for months09:20
polpakhermies: err dapper09:20
hermiesso one can run dapper? isn't that more like debian experimental though?09:21
polpakhermies: dapper flight 2 was just released09:21
hermiesah okay :D09:21
MorgdabaR_: I thought this was #apache damn it. Ubuntu IRC must have sent me here automatically. I typed in /join #apache and hit enter, so I didn't notice.09:21
hermiesmmm09:21
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polpakhermies: it's still a beta09:21
garryn3x then the warning is nothing to worry about. I get the same thing because when I update kernel, because my first disk is windows xp and my third is linux and I use system commander to choose what to boot. I would not worry about it, if evertyhing boots fine, than ignore warning, its fine.09:21
aftertafrhythminmind:  raid gives you miroring and fault tolerance. If you require this, go for raid09:21
Hobbseehermies: anyone can run it - but it could be very very buggy, you never know with the latest lot of upgrades!09:21
rjshey09:21
moodogtechone: I take it you're ignoring the XP range of Athlon processors?  Speeds upto 3000+ (I have a 2800+)  all 32 bit.09:21
aftertafHobbsee:  spoilsport... ;)09:21
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hermiescause this ram problem is rather annoying...and my mother is complaining (this is her pc) that linux is always crashing (and it was hard enough to get her onto it to start with)09:21
rhythminmindi just want a stripped setup09:21
dabaR__Morg: I generally find it is a good idea to do "/topic" for the first message to the channel, altho I always forget to do it...09:22
rhythminmindno tolerance09:22
Linfanguinpolpak, it says select display manager-i chose gdm instead of kdm is this correct?09:22
rjsdoes anyone know how to reset a motherboard???09:22
polpakLinfanguin: yes09:22
hermiesHobbsee, lol ...if it was me I'd probably run it... atm my debian box is half sid and half experimental (yay for wanting gnome 2.12 now :P)09:22
rjshow09:22
Hobbseeaftertaf: well, i dont really like seeing people come in here and whine, expecting it all to work first go, no problems - it is a development release, after all!09:22
hermiesrjs, read your manual09:22
dabaR__rjs: for bios passwords?09:22
rhythminmindreset jumper lok at the manual09:22
Anssi_n3x and polpak: aplay -l lists my PLAYBACK AUDIO DEVICES seemingly ok, although with a lot of technical details...09:22
aftertafHobbsee:  i like dapper :)09:22
n3xgarry it boots fine but i cant update the kernel to 2.6.1509:22
Hobbseehermies: got major changes in X at the moment - you may want to wait09:22
techonemoodog, no im not ignoring those processors I said sempron which is categorically not athlon09:22
hermiesrjs,  sif tell you to change jumpers and you change the wrong one and blame us for blowing up your board09:22
Hobbseeaftertaf: same here, it's all iv'e booted to for the last while09:22
n3xAnssi_ does aumix work and see the card?09:22
rjsi cant get on to my other computer09:22
polpakhermies: I have the same issue w/ my father in law.. OO keeps dying on his power point presentations...09:22
hermiesHobbsee, 6.8 > 6.9?09:23
rjsonly some times09:23
hermiesdebian did that last week09:23
Hobbseenot sure09:23
blue-frogMorg, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.509:23
blue-frog and google for more info, you can install webmin-bind as well...09:23
rjsand i got to finish putting windows on it09:23
aftertaf6.9 already.... getting ready for 7 :)09:23
hermiespolpak, so far my family rather likes linux so win for me...less tech support ^^09:23
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hermies7 isn't out yet...is it?09:23
n3xgarry: i switched the boot Prior in the bios... Still: Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk09:23
aftertafnope09:23
polpakhermies: easier tech support09:23
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Linfanguinis there major diffrences between linux distros? i mean from what i have captured they either run on gnome or kde-the diffrence i have seen is on logo maybe something internal?09:23
garryHmm, Oh I see. er the 2.6.15 kernel requires udev .71 at least.09:23
hermiespolpak, that too! "just wait...opening up ssh"09:23
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aftertafgarry:  yep, replaced hotplug09:24
hermiesLinfanguin, not true at all09:24
polpakLinfanguin: mostly it's just how things are packaged and configured09:24
tonyyarussoLinfanguin, Pretty much everything can vary.09:24
hermiesalso stability and vision/goals of the distro09:24
n3xgarry doesnt explain why i cant write lilo to hda09:24
cozLinfanguin linux is linux, different flavors like ice cream09:24
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morphixhrm.09:24
Linfanguinok now it went back my user name@ubuntu does that mean is done?09:24
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polpakLinfanguin: yes09:24
dabaR__coz: you mean GNU/Linux?09:24
Linfanguini been reading alot about linux since i made the switch09:24
hermiescoz, or a vat of fat and colouring for lfs users :P09:24
techoneaftertaf, ok I was looking to confirm if this is breezy09:24
aftertafthose that are having stability problems with OO &/or firefox......    did you install anything non standard or it it from a breezy cd ?09:24
garrysay n3x the warning isn't the reason the kenel is not installing, somthing else. Oh did you try sudo before doing the install of lilo?09:24
hermiesLinfanguin, are you using ubuntu?09:24
techoneand about ubuntu doesnt say09:24
Linfanguinand i dont think i will be going back to windows when using a laptop09:24
tonyyarussoLinfanguin, They'll all have a cone, and a cold dairy-based product on top., beyond that it's all up in the air.09:25
n3xgarry i am root09:25
polpakaftertaf: default from breezy09:25
cozlinux is linux09:25
Linfanguinhermies, yes i am09:25
hermiesLinfanguin, good choice :)09:25
dabaR__coz: linux is the kernel09:25
tonyyarussoI like the analogy coz.09:25
morphixhow the heck do i install mplayer or gmplayer.. according to apt there IS NO installation package for it :/09:25
Madpilottonyyarusso: but in Gentoo, you have to roll your own cone and milk the cow yourself! :P09:25
dabaR__tonyyarusso: ha09:25
techonewhere to confirm this is breezy and not hoary09:25
Linfanguini know my laptop is happy-no more windows09:25
aftertafmorphix:  multiverse09:25
cozyes  the rest is fowers and ice cream09:25
aftertaf!repositories09:25
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource09:25
hermiesI recommend all new linux users use ubuntu :D ...they tend to stay with linux, then when they get used to it I get them to switch to debian09:25
cozflowers09:25
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odatthanks ubotu lol09:25
tonyyarussoLinfanguin, Why Windows for the laptop?09:25
hermiestechone, uname -a09:25
tonyyarussoMadpilot, :)  Nice.09:25
Linfanguinno i wont be using windows for my laptop at all09:26
polpakmorphix: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-music-and-movies09:26
garryn3x ok, is this a ubuntu linux you have the kernel on? You might have to run liloconfig. Did you also replace the udev part as well as the hotplug?09:26
hermiesLinfanguin, linux runs better on my sisters laptop :)09:26
morphixi have multiverse opened.09:26
techoneuname -a did not say breezy or hoary09:26
Linfanguinmy desktop i have windows media center 2005 linked with the 360 so thats a must..but for my laptop linux it is09:26
polpakmorphix: do you have universe?09:26
hermiestechone, what kernel did it have?09:26
polpak!info mplayer09:26
hermiesor...09:26
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hermiessilly ubuntu09:26
dabaR__morphix: search for mplayer. apt-cache search mplayer09:26
Linfanguinand now that networking is easier then before-i say...windows WHO?09:26
morphixit finds it09:26
dabaR__polpak: it is in multiverse09:26
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hermieswhy doesn't uname -a tell people what release they have people!? *files it as a bug*09:26
morphixBUT when i try to get what it tells me09:27
dabaR__morphix: install the one for your arch.09:27
n3xudevinfo, version 07609:27
morphixit says there is no installation candidate09:27
techoneLinux dhcppc11 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux09:27
tonyyarussotechone: cat /etc/issue tells you the Ubuntu release name.09:27
Toma-hermies: because it never has?09:27
n3xgarry ^^09:27
hermiesToma-, how silly!09:27
techoneah09:27
n3xyea09:27
dabaR__morphix: mplayer is not a package, that is right, mplayer-386|k7 and so on are packages09:27
polpakhermies: that's what /etc/issue is for?09:27
techoneI was looking for /etc/release version and such09:27
Toma-hermies: if u say so.09:27
hermieslol :P09:27
blue-froghermies, lsb_release -a09:27
morphixyeh i know09:27
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hermies:P09:27
morphixi do sudo apt-get install mplayer-38609:27
techonethe thing that throws me some about uname -a is that both 386 and 686 is listed09:27
morphixand it still says no install for it09:27
techonebreezy badger 5.1009:28
tonyyarussoblue-frog, What's lsb stand for?09:28
polpakmorphix: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst09:28
cozmorphix try automatix09:28
dabaR__morphix: do you find mplayer-386 as a package? did you update?09:28
Linfanguinone last question before i head out to see kubuntu? when i stream a video or song online using firefox is choppy how can i fix this?09:28
polpak!automatix09:28
MrKeunerdabaR_ yes universe is enabled09:28
uboturumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!09:28
morphixE: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate09:28
garryok, sounds ok there. So you have two hard drives. What OS is on the first drive and what is the partition, what os is on the second drive and is it ntfs on ether? Lilo has trouble dealing with ntfs parts.09:28
morphixblargh09:28
morphixok 'sec09:28
Toma-techone: its telling you you have an i686, where youre kernel is the 386 release09:28
techoneshouldnt it be either 386 or 686 but nto both09:28
cozpolpak automatix09:28
techoneor rather isnt it better to be the same09:29
garrylol, My keyboard hates me.09:29
Madpilotcoz: please don't recommend that...09:29
cozgarry I understand09:29
Toma-techone: no. 386 is compatible with 38609:29
Madpilot!tell coz about automatix09:29
Toma-errr 68609:29
cozMadpilot why not09:29
blue-frogtonyyarusso, linux standard base09:29
Toma-automatix is bad mojo09:29
dabaR__hehe09:29
Anssi_n3x, aumix -q lists: pcm 81, 8109:29
Anssi_cd 81, 81, P09:29
Anssi_pcm2 71, 7109:29
Anssi_ and lots of others with "zero, zero". I can run it yes, but what should I do there? Sliding the volume back and forth?09:29
morphixwhats pastebins url again.. i forgot it .09:29
cozNot true09:29
Anssi_ and lots of others with "zero, zero". I can run it yes, but what should I do there? Sliding the volume back and forth?09:29
tonyyarussotechone, Toma-: I had the install put on 386, and was told later I should have 686 for my hardware.09:29
tonyyarussoblue-frog, Ah.09:29
polpak!easyubuntu09:29
ubotuI heard easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu09:29
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dabaR__morphix: paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:30
Toma-tonyyarusso: its not a nessecity09:30
garryn3x ok, sounds ok there. So you have two hard drives. What OS is on the first drive and what is the partition, what os is on the second drive and is it ntfs on ether? Lilo has trouble dealing with ntfs parts.09:30
cozI have yet to see any of the machines i have installed automatix on break in any way09:30
Anssi_n3x: aumix -q gives me pcm 81, 8109:30
Anssi_cd 81, 81, P09:30
Anssi_pcm2 71, 7109:30
Anssi_ and lots of others with "zero, zero". I can run it yes, but what should I do there? Sliding the volume back and forth?09:30
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polpakcoz: if you must recommend those "do everything" scripts recommend easyubuntu09:30
tonyyarussoToma-, What's the advantage/difference with the 686 one for me then?09:30
dabaR__!repeat09:30
ubotu[repeat]  Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.09:30
Toma-tonyyarusso: about 1-2 seconds off your boot time09:30
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polpak!patience09:30
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.09:30
n3xgarry: remove hdb .. lilo installs.. booted back up now into 2.6.15 .. Thanks for the help09:30
blue-frogtonyyarusso, none u are aware of09:30
xaeokay guys, I finally got ubuntu installed and working... now how do I get my windows to work once again :)09:31
cozpolpak my feelings exactly patience!!09:31
tonyyarussoToma-, That's it?09:31
Toma-tonyyarusso: yep.09:31
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garrycongrats, and welcome.09:31
xaeit begins to boot, but then freezes on load09:31
soulslayerhello everybody09:31
Toma-the other differences youll need to put a stopwatch to09:31
dabaR__xae: it should just work. did you have windows on the first hard drive, and the first partition?09:31
n3xLinux excalibur 2.6.15superfly #1 SMP Thu Jan 5 15:08:10 WST 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux09:31
garryn3x ^^09:31
n3x:)09:31
n3xyep saw it09:31
hermieslater all...off to dinner (that I don't have to cook :D)09:31
dabaR__heh09:31
xaedabaR__: yes, however I had to change the boot order in the bios, so it thinks "ubuntu = hd0" and windows = "hd1"   (even tho windoiws is on hda, and linux is on hdb)09:32
soulslayeri just installed kubuntu, i need to be root, but when i use su, the system ask me for a password that the installation never asked me09:32
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polpakubotu tell soulslayer about sudo09:32
blue-frogsoulslayer, u don't need to be root, use sudo09:32
moodogsoulslayer: why do you need to be root?09:32
Toma-tonyyarusso: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25282.html09:32
morphixdabaR__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6637 -- actually i dont have multiverse in there... :/09:32
dabaR__morphix: add.09:32
Anssi_hermies, that's a classical case, that uname tells software about the binary environment, which is sama for all distribution running th same kernel.09:32
techoneok so 386 shold be fine on my 686 hardware ;^)09:32
sampanroot is for trees!  save the trees!  use sudo!09:32
Toma-techone: indeedy09:33
Madpilot!tell soulslayer about root09:33
xaerootnoverify  (hd1, 0) ... chainloader +1 ... makeactive             freezes after that09:33
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garrylol, I love it sampan09:33
moodogsoulslayer: you could always sudo /bin/bash if you want a root shell09:33
xaereplace ... with \n09:33
techoneis there a utility to do some form of system integrity check??09:33
Toma-A test under gimp >> "With kernel 386 it took 38.5 seconds to apply it, while with kernel 686 it took 39 seconds."09:33
sampangarry  lol -- :X  i coined it myself, not to toot my own horn too much! ;x09:33
dabaR__morphix: why use those mirrors?09:33
xaeis there a ... gui for editing the boot loader in ubuntu or something?09:33
garryJust as good as the saying I saw that said "Too many ways to shoot self in foot."09:33
soulslayeroh, tank you so much guys09:33
dabaR__xae: it is a file, if you have a gui editor, you can edit it. the file is at /boot/grub/menu.lst09:33
garrysampan :)09:34
xaedabaR__: yes i know, I was wondering if there was an automated tool available =\09:34
polpakToma-: it's possible that particular operation couldn't be better optimized09:34
dabaR__xae: why did you have to switch it in bios?09:34
tonyyarussoThanks for the link Toma-.09:34
xaedabaR__: my mbr is messed up on hda (windows)09:34
sampangarry, we should write promotional materials for ubuntu!  we could change the world with our slogans!09:34
morphixdabaR_, cause i am in australia.. those mirror's use pipe which is totally free towards my internet connection being that i have a quota09:34
dabaR__xae: you should have installed grub into mbr, and it would have done it.09:34
garrysay sampan hehe, yep.09:35
dabaR__morphix: sweet. added multiverse?09:35
xaedabaR__: I tried that option, no luck09:35
tonyyarussoAnd with that, I must be going, to get some sleep.  Bye all!09:35
morphixno09:35
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xaedabaR__: a multitude of errors occured with that09:35
Toma-polpak: true. theres a few other calculation tests on that link that show the 686 kernel to be 4% faster with mysql09:35
dabaR__morphix: do you need help?09:35
morphixwhat exactly do i need to add?09:35
morphixyeh.. kinda09:35
Toma-nothing noticable id say09:35
odatmorphix, just use this source list09:35
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odatreplace your sources.list with this one get it done quick09:36
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sas171hi, there was a command to make install throw and get .deb package, how was it going?09:36
dabaR__morphix: you need to put a # on the first line. on the next line with text, add "universe multiverse", save and close the file, then sudo apt-get update. the first line is the CD, so comment that out is best I think.09:36
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dabaR__morphix: comment out being that # I told you to put.09:36
morphixyeh.09:36
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dabaR__morphix: and when you are adding those two, no ""09:36
dabaR__and add those two at the end, off course.09:37
morphixyup.09:37
odatmorphix, did you get the list i sent ya09:37
dabaR__sas171: search for debian maintainer guide on google.09:37
xaedabaR__: "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"09:37
morphixhow do i change the 'size' of windows, etc on here... i hate this.. everything is hell chunky09:37
xaedabaR__: then it... freezes up (well, the _ is still blinking)09:38
Lichtedoes anyone here package GNUstep for Ubuntu ?09:38
dabaR__xae: that is over my head, mostly.09:38
xaedabaR__: ahh k =\09:38
xaeany grub gurus here?09:38
Toma-morphix: smaller window borders?09:38
morphixToma-, yeh09:38
morphixand smaller09:38
Toma-i saw that somehwre. hang on09:38
morphix'taskbars'09:38
morphixor whatever they are called lol.09:38
Anssi_Why does Firefox not support saving sessions? Is that really so, or is there an option?09:38
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polpakmorphix: fistly are you using the right resolution?09:38
dabaR__xae: I do not think there is a grub way to do it. I would reinstall everything on the proper hard disk, windows has to be on first partition of first hard disk for it to load. I even think this problem is related to windows, not to grub.09:39
polpakmorphix: or firstly rather09:39
morphixi'm using 1152x102409:39
dabaR__xae: but again, I could be wrong.09:39
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morphixerr09:39
sas171Anssi_: there is an extension09:39
Toma-morphix: for the taskbar, right click an empty space and goto properties, should be right there09:39
Linfanguinohh man this is so cool im in kubuntu09:39
Linfanguinwow09:39
Linfanguinthis rocks09:39
morphixi mean 1152x864*09:39
Anssi_Thx sas171, I'l look at it!09:39
Linfanguinbut how to setup an account for my girl to use under kubuntu?09:39
polpakLinfanguin: you should check out xubuntu-desktop if you have a need for speed =)09:39
xaedabaR__: =\ k (and I dont think it has to be on the first disk, ive had linux on my large drive before / win on small one)09:39
garrytype seven is NTFS09:40
Linfanguini looked for the admin but no luck09:40
Linfanguinxubuntu?09:40
sampanlinfanguin  welcome to the wonderfulness of KDE!  :D  btw, #kubuntu is a smaller chan, but often helpful for kde specific questions09:40
polpakLinfanguin: um.. I haven't used kubuntu, but in gnome it's system->administration->users & groups09:40
soulslayeranother thing, i need something called kernel_sources to compile, where can i find that??09:40
techonehhmmm is there any good HD diagnostics utilities09:40
dabaR__morphix: try a different window border, or a different window manager, I use openbox, which is slick.09:40
polpakLinfanguin: it uses ICEWM09:40
Linfanguinxubuntu? whats so diffrent about it09:40
garryckfs if I recall.09:40
morphixyeh i was interested in doing that.. my friend uses openbox09:40
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morphixhow do i install openbox?09:40
Toma-Linfanguin: just make a new user account and let her login. itll create a new environment for her09:40
polpakLinfanguin: it doesn't use a desktop enviroment (like kde or gnome) so it uses less resources09:40
techoneI can only really figure some hardware issue like HD or powersupply to cause random crashes09:40
garrybut I don't know how good it is.09:41
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dabaR__Linfanguin: add her as a user, in a terminal, that would be "sudo adduser herNameHere"09:41
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Toma-*useradd09:41
dabaR__Toma-: go see...09:41
Linfanguinso xubuntu does not have an interface?09:41
polpakToma-: adduser is better.. (interactive)09:41
Toma-holy hats. theyve made 2 of em09:41
polpakLinfanguin: it does.. just no desktop09:41
soulslayerand gcc, i dont have a internet connection in linux, beacuse my connection is wifi, where can i find those packages09:42
dabaR__morphix: as anything else. it is in universe. there are good threads on it on the forum if you search "openbox stormy"09:42
Toma-im too old fashioned :D09:42
xaeuhm...09:42
xaei think my comp died :|09:42
soulslayeri just need to compile ndiswrapper to use my internet connection09:42
Toma-Linfanguin: forget about xubuntu.09:42
dabaR__Linfanguin: it is a desktop environment, in fact, even though that guy said it is not. check out the following URL that ubotu will send you to see more.09:42
garryouch, what happened xae?09:42
aftertaftechone:  but if random crashes like that dont occur with win, it could be the installation that is messed up.. maybe even the install cd.09:42
xaegarry: i had to hard boot it because it was frozen while trying to boot windows09:42
morphixok thanks.09:43
blue-frogsoulslayer, use ndiswrapper on the cd09:43
xaegarry: and now... its not even powering on (not post'ing)09:43
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morphixi am just trying to 10 things at once.09:43
Linfanguinok will be right back09:43
techoneanyone know of decent hardware diagnostics. the mem86+ which comes with ubuntu is only for ram of course09:43
morphixsmaller windows would be nice lol09:43
madeI concur09:43
polpakmorphix: you can also try different themes09:43
xaegarry: never mind, it is just uhh wierd, it just randomly came on09:43
Toma-morphix: try finding a new smaller theme with Art Manager or gnome-art09:43
dabaR__morphix: see the forums first, cause they show screenshots. or http://icculus.org/openbox09:43
garryxae whew. lucky. :)09:44
blue-frogsoulslayer, no need to compile09:44
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Toma-sif openbox09:44
Toma-:P09:44
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garryxae maybe loose cord.09:44
morphixsif gnome :P09:44
morphixchunky p.o.s09:44
dabaR__what is sif?09:44
madehello all I'm new to ubuntu.. and linux all in one.. I have about a billion questions but none to ask right now.. just FYI09:44
morphixsif = as if09:45
Toma-sif = as if09:45
Toma-in nerd talk :/09:45
morphixbeat ya :P09:45
dabaR__made: shoot.09:45
sanderhow can I install oidentd or pidentd with apt-get in ubuntu?.. any apt sources I need to add?09:45
Toma-morphix: why u using gnome then? just use screen.09:45
techoneaftertaf, part of why I put on Edubuntu, actually cause hes a teacher, is because of random nonsense freezes and resets - I ran some hardware diagnostic at the time which came up with no complaints09:45
garryI remember one time, we could not get a system to boot at work, went through a box of 20 hard drive cables. Turned out all the cables were bad. every one!09:45
soulslayerblue: No need to compile?????????09:45
morphix..?09:45
morphixisnt screen that detach/retach thing in terminal? lol09:45
blue-frogsoulslayer, not if u use ndiswrapper form the cd09:46
dabaR__sander: to find out about packages, "/msg ubotu info blah" where blah is the package name.09:46
Toma-morphix: yep09:46
dabaR__sander: they are both in universe, btw.09:46
Toma-hardcore linux'ing :D09:46
morphixerr..? well how could i use that then lol09:46
aftertaftechone:  memory!   sounds like bad ram. try testing Sim by Sim09:46
soulslayerndiswrapper is included in the cd?????09:46
morphixi am in gnome.. cause its default.09:46
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madeI have no questions at the time.. I will compile a good list and then just release them 1 at a time.. just thought I would introduce..09:46
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Jowihello all09:46
Toma-coz screen is the least bloated way of managing your system09:46
aftertaftechone:  i;e. take one out and see if it happens, then swap and try the other one09:46
garrywelcome to Ubuntu09:47
dabaR__made: awesome09:47
madethx09:47
aftertafToma-:  screen :] 09:47
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Toma-:P09:47
aftertafscreen & ssh == remote heaven09:47
dabaR__hehe09:47
soulslayerhow can i install the packkages to compile, anyway thats important to09:47
blueandwhiteg3Well, I think I'm coming back to Ubuntu. What's the best way to get a newer/testing/snapshot of ubuntu?09:48
polpaksoulslayer: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:48
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sas171dabaR_: it was sudo checkinstall, german wiki rules :D09:48
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: you could get dapper. but its under heavy development09:48
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Toma-meaning buggy and near broken sometimes09:48
techoneaftertaf, ive run extensive memory test well mem86+ for a dozen hours or so09:48
soulslayerpolpak: do i need internet to do that??09:48
aftertaftechone:  even so...09:48
aftertaftechone:  i'd do the physical swapping bit.09:48
techonehmmm.09:49
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aftertaftechone:  only way to be 100% certain about a hardware item is to remove it ;)09:49
polpaksoulslayer: yes .. I believe so09:49
blueandwhiteg3Toma-: The current ubuntu breezy badger is too old. The alsa drivers are too old for my soundcard. VLC has... issues. Etc.09:49
CarlFKarg... is there some way to disable the "search subdirs" when btlaunchmany doesn't find anything in the current dir?09:49
dabaR__blueandwhiteg3: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/188 but...it is for testing, like you said. Ya'll been warned.09:49
aftertafblueandwhiteg3:  go dapper, but be ready for somethings to be a bit rocky09:49
CarlFKwhopps, wrong channel...09:49
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: go ahead. use dapper. just dont expect much help from here if it goes wrong09:50
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blueandwhiteg3Are there any more edgy options with the apt repositories?09:50
morphixdoes x-chat have a 'minimize to system tray' like gaim does09:50
dabaR__blueandwhiteg3: do you have ubuntu installed?09:50
Jowisoulslayer: as polpak said, other packages may be needed by the app itself. But if you ./configure it, the software will tell you what's missing. Build-essential is on the cd09:50
Toma-morphix: yeh, alltray can work09:50
blueandwhiteg3dabaR_: I had 5.10 installed earlier. But I left it to try something else because I wanted newer stuff...09:50
aftertafmorphix:  yes it does. xchat systray package i think09:50
dabaR__blueandwhiteg3: try installing from that page, and then just update regularly, and you will be up to date as up to date gets.09:50
morphixwhere and how do i get them?09:51
Jowi!info build-essential09:51
soulslayerohhh, i understand, thanks09:51
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: why dont you stick with something and just learn how to compile from source?09:51
aftertafmorphix:  synaptic...09:51
soulslayerim gonna try, ill go back09:51
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madewell I guess one q I could ask.  How do I install/run the 3dchess package? I thought I had installed the package from Synaptic Package Manager, but I can't seem to find it in the applications menu09:52
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Toma-made: easy way is it hit alt + f2, then type 3dchess09:53
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dabaR__https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight2 nice stuff...09:54
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dabaR__unstable as heck too, probably.09:54
blueandwhiteg3Toma-: I was trying the theory that I could keep everything in a nice tidy package management system.09:54
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: you can. if you instead use checkinstall instead of make install, it'll add the fake package to your apt list09:55
dabaR__made: you may have to run it from the terminal, or use the application menu editor to add it after you figure out what the command to run it is.09:55
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blueandwhiteg3Toma-: so, like ./configure; make; checkinstall ?09:55
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: thats it09:55
blueandwhiteg3and checkinstall totally replaces the functionality of make install?09:56
Toma-!checkinstall09:56
ubotucheckinstall is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall09:56
madeCannot display location 'file://3dchess'09:56
dabaR__that guy has an answer for everything.09:56
dabaR__made: apps>accessor>terminal09:56
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aftertafmade:  type in a console09:56
Toma-yeh. makes a list of files its going to install, asks you for a description, then installs it as according to the programs makefile09:56
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Pygifreaky: ping09:56
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madeno dice09:58
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blueandwhiteg3Toma-: Are there any additional repositories I could add to my sources.list to give me a newer or wider software selection?09:58
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: not really.09:58
Pygiubotu tell blueandwhiteg3 about Seveas09:59
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Toma-if you want bleeding edge, you have to climb up the knife yourself :)09:59
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garryLOL09:59
aftertaf!repositories09:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource09:59
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aftertafhi thoreauputic10:01
MadpilotToma-: nice way to put it :P10:01
aftertafhi Hoxzer10:01
thoreauputichi aftertaf :)10:01
blueandwhiteg3Oops. I'm back. I'm looking at sources.list that I just got..10:02
blueandwhiteg3ah ha, I see that adds a nice selection of repositories!10:02
techoneok whats a good torrent site10:02
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Toma-what sources.list is this?10:02
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techonei can download some isos for a day and see if there are any complaints10:02
aftertafToma-:  THE sources.list10:03
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blueandwhiteg3That's a good question. I got a nice list sent to me by.. somebody10:03
aftertaftechone:  grab the kubuntu dvd iso ;)10:03
JowiToma-: checkinstall look great. i had no idea that was available10:03
aftertafblueandwhiteg3:  from who?10:03
Toma-Jowi: it really is quite a brilliant idea :)10:03
blueandwhiteg3I would like to know....10:03
blueandwhiteg3oh, here it is10:03
blueandwhiteg3odat10:03
blueandwhiteg3Thanks odat10:03
aftertafblueandwhiteg3:  oh ok.... lol10:03
JowiToma-: absolutely. i'm stunned :-)10:03
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odatblueandwhiteg3, np10:04
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orhs_hey guys i need help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" the driver version of the hardware is 3.0.7.210:04
blueandwhiteg3I'm seeing wine, cipherfunk, and something at people.ubuntu.com on the list10:04
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Toma-oooooo auto-apt...10:05
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Toma-blueandwhiteg3: can you put it up on a pastebin? :D10:05
techoneubuntu dvd  on the way10:06
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techonenow over to iso hunt10:06
blueandwhiteg3nah, i can do one better than that...10:06
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Pygignomefreak: ping ping ping ping ping :)10:06
garrywww.kde.org has a binary for kde 3.5 for ubuntu I saw it today, not brave enough to try it today. Too sleepy.10:07
blueandwhiteg3http://zinkconsulting.com/sources.list10:07
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blueandwhiteg3Is that final ./ supposed to be on there?10:07
JowiToma-: i've got the "./configure, make, make install" burnt firmly into my brain. I hope I will remember to use it!10:07
Toma-yep10:07
orhs_i've seen that only ver 1.0 of the 3com OfficeConnect wireless 11g pc card's is supported by the version 1.0 and 2.0 but ver 3.0 is not mentioned10:08
Toma-Jowi: same! i sometimes run make install then start cursing 1/2 way thru, after remembering :D10:08
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blueandwhiteg3Toma-: oh, crap, when my client crashed a few minutes ago, there went the log with the command to make a faux-package10:09
garryYep, sometimes my memory is like an IOU written on an ice cube in summertime.10:10
blueandwhiteg3Toma-: can you re-poost it?10:10
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DarkRitualHello world10:10
Toma-that apt list?10:10
Jowihello DarkRitual10:11
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DarkRitualHello Jowi  :)10:11
odatblueandwhiteg3, did you get to use those yet?10:11
blueandwhiteg3Toma-: No, the command so I can make a package out of my install. You know, ./configure, make, <thatspecialsecretcommand>10:11
DarkRitualsu root aint working -.-"10:11
orhs_i think my live cd is takeing my wifi card...10:12
Toma-checkinstall10:12
JowiDarkRitual: sudo -i10:12
blueandwhiteg3Toma-: thanks!!10:12
blueandwhiteg3odat: I am currently loading Ubuntu and will try it out soon. Why is there a ./ on the last line of sources.list?10:12
Jowiubotu, tell DarkRitual about sudo10:12
odatthere isn't one10:12
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blueandwhiteg3odat: is there a reason you left off seveas?10:12
odatlolol10:13
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: its saying the directory to look at is ./ meaning to stay in the cwd10:13
odatthat is how its listed10:13
odatblueandwhiteg3, unreliable10:13
gerald-volthow do i get mplayer firefox to play .mov stream videos10:13
Seveashm?10:13
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Seveasodat, what's unreliable?10:13
Toma-now youre in for it :D10:14
odatseveas10:14
zorba64gerald-volt: mozilla-mplayer should do it10:14
blueandwhiteg3I see the whole family is here :)10:14
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orhs_hey guys i need help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" the driver version of the hardware is 3.0.7.210:15
jahshuahow can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files ?10:16
Seveasodat, ?10:16
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orhs_ubuntu finds it but it takes ages to activate10:16
Toma-tell orhs_ about wireless10:16
Toma-err10:16
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Toma-ubotu: tell orhs_ about wireless10:16
Seveasodat, care to elaborate on that?10:16
SeveasI'm very much insulted....10:16
Toma-i use your repo Seveas <310:17
DarkRitualthnx Jowi10:17
Jowinp DarkRitual10:17
DarkRitualI am doing massive things10:17
orhs_and when its activated it gets de-atctivated later10:17
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SeveasToma-, that's not the point here as far as I see, he thinks I'm unreliable...10:17
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DarkRitualmy entire network got cracked after using 2 days windows XP and bank creditcards etc got stolen10:17
odatSeveas, i tried those repositories and they are usually down10:17
SeveasAnd i really want to know why10:17
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Toma-Seveas: i agree. hes off his rocker i think10:17
DarkRitualNow i am interigating my self from fedora to Ubuntu :)10:17
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jahshuaanyone know how can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files ?10:18
Seveasodat, ah you mean my repo, try a mirror. The main box is my playground - the mirrors ARE reliable10:18
JowiDarkRitual: wow, serious stuff man10:18
techoneok so running a bunch of bit torrent downloads should test out some drive activity for sure.10:18
garryubotu: telll garry about wireless10:18
orhs_and if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength10:18
odatSeveas, tried the mirrors  same thing10:18
Seveasodat, and yes, because it's my playground it's unreliable :)10:18
DarkRitualJowi, no shit realize: ive only used windows for 2 days and every thing started to go wrong10:18
Seveasodat, never had problems with them...10:18
appSomebody mentioned an extension, but I can't find one to work with Breezy Firefox 1.0.7: I want X session saving to work with it, or something similar, like Firefoc saving its own windows.10:18
Toma-odat: ive never had problems with the Seveas mirrors10:19
odatSeveas, then maybe you could give me a working one10:19
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blueandwhiteg3for anybody who is interested, I tried ubuntu because I was bothered by some things, then i went onto other distros... and guess where I am again. I can't believe the mess I experienced with trying to install debian...10:19
orhs_ubotu: tell orhs about wireless10:19
Seveas!tell odat about seveas10:19
Toma-ubotu: tell orhs_ about wireless10:19
Seveasread the wikipage, it lists them all, and all are working10:19
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orhs_and if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength10:19
JowiDarkRitual: Hope you informed your insurance and bank :)10:20
gerald-volthhmm, i installed mplayer-firefox10:20
DarkRitualWell ive send the full logs to bill gates and with an note "I still think linux is better"10:20
gerald-voltbut I still can't play this file10:20
gerald-volti just get a grey screen10:20
gerald-volthttp://www.muchosucko.com/video-rallyracingvideowithtunes.html10:20
DarkRitualgerald-volt,  did you tried XMMS?10:20
odatSeveas, yea those are the ones i tried10:20
app!ntfs10:21
gerald-voltit's a streaming video10:21
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK10:21
jahshuablueandwhiteg3: welcome back, i tried to install Debian also with no luck.. but we are probably noobs :) ubuntu _is_ much easier10:21
Seveasodat, these work fine10:21
DarkRitualJowi, inshurance covered everything so i am alright :)10:21
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pc22what other plugins for avi files?10:21
DarkRitual2 days seemed to be 19 killing years10:21
DarkRitualthere is an movie player10:21
jahshuaanyone know how can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files ?10:21
DarkRitualmplayer10:21
pc22wont10:22
DarkRitualpc22, Did you tried mplayer?10:22
blueandwhiteg3jahshua: their stable tree is so old! it doesn't properly support my video or sound...10:22
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pc22yes10:22
DarkRitualDid it work?10:22
gerald-voltcan someone try this streaminging .mov file on their firefox?10:22
alainlucasHow to relaunch apache2 server ?10:22
gerald-volthttp://www.muchosucko.com/video-rallyracingvideowithtunes.html10:22
Seveasalainlucas, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart10:22
lerhelo10:22
blueandwhiteg3jahshua: it also appears they are having issues with how they updated their keys for the new year, but not their netinstall. And i don't feel like downloading and burning 15 (!) cds10:22
odatSeveas, same stuff10:22
odatSeveas, deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas breezy-seveas list_of_sections    failed10:23
JowiDarkRitual: very good. I made sure my Visa was fully covered for internet-fraud before I signed (free of charge of course). Never had my info compromised and I used it for 3 years online now.10:23
thoreauputicalainlucas:  or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:23
jahshuablueandwhiteg3: were you trying their new release, sarge ?10:23
DarkRitualgerald-volt, google up mplayer it supports almost every thing if i am alright there is also apple qicktime for linux10:23
Seveasodat, then you're doing something wrong, just tested them10:23
jahshuaanyone know how can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files?10:23
pc22all players says no plugin10:23
lerwho like to sexdating?10:23
Seveasodat, READ THE F*ING PAGE, it says to replace list_of_sections with the sections you want10:23
Seveasstop spreading fud. They work.10:23
Seveasjeez.10:23
odatSeveas, what if i want all the sections?10:23
pc22other avi files play but memoirs of geisha wont10:23
thoreauputicjahshua: you seem to have ignored the answers already given...10:23
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Jowigerald-volt: i don't use plugins for any media (appart from pictures of course). I preffer launching external apps for everything. Make it easier to switch apps if needed.10:24
pc22jahshua, hi10:24
DarkRitualJowi,  funnyest was ive entered 1 time information about my CC with out security crap and still they stole 30 euro's but Visa has idd great services for aggainst fraud*10:24
Seveasodat, READ THE PAGE.10:24
jahshuathoreauputic, whichs ones? i dont see any10:24
jahshuapc22: hi10:24
Seveasit says how to do that10:24
odatSeveas, k i c10:24
gerald-volti tried downloading that video10:24
blueandwhiteg3jahshua: I was actually trying to get etch up and running10:24
gerald-voltand using xine or mplayer to play it10:24
gerald-voltit doesn't work10:24
DarkRitualgerald-volt, use mplayer i never had probs with that @ fedora10:24
alainlucasWhat does such error mean :10:24
jahshuathoreauputic: ?10:24
alainlucasalain@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:24
alainlucas * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.23 for ServerName10:24
alainlucasa10:24
DarkRitualIt also supports porn XD10:25
Seveasalainlucas, son't paste in here10:25
DarkRitualStreams etc10:25
liablemy stinkpad has decided that it doesnt like having a cd drive in it anymore and hangs for about 30 secs at stage 1.5. Boots instantly without it in though. Where the hell do I start to debug this?10:25
gerald-voltstill doesn't work10:25
Seveasand that error is quite harmles10:25
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phos-phorosmaybe sudo apt-get mozilla-plugin-vlc10:25
thoreauputicjahshua: mozilla-mplayer ?10:25
jahshuadoesnt work10:25
jahshuai have that installed10:25
MyrttiI'd vote for mozilla-plugin-vlc10:25
thoreauputic!doesn't work10:25
ubotudoesn't work is probably something you should never say.  Be more specific.10:25
jahshuaheh10:25
Seveasliable, grub is hanging when the CD drive is in?!10:25
JowiDarkRitual: was it a keylogger or the sites fault?10:26
garryStinkpad. I love it.10:26
Seveasthen the thing is broken I guess ::)10:26
DarkRitualgerald-volt,  just as phos-phoros say'd try in console: sudo apt-get mozilla-plugin-vlc10:26
pc22wahhhh all of my avi files are ok. are avi files differ with one anothyer?10:26
gerald-volttrying right now10:26
odatSeveas, why don't you just upload to the other backports10:26
Seveasodat, why would I?10:26
thoreauputicMyrtti: afaik vlc only supports old windows media, not wmv 9 etc10:26
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DarkRitualJowi,  No was not an keylogger it was an HTML script or some thing i don't know but infact i got basicly hacked10:26
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Seveasodat, the backports people know of my packages and can take them if they want. They clearly don't :)10:27
Seveasand not all in there are backports10:27
DarkRitualJowi,  you know it 1 open port and 1 milion hackerzzz :P10:27
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JowiSeveas: you know by any chance if "slim" is going to be ported?10:27
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SeveasJowi, I wouldn't even know what slim is :)10:28
JowiDarkRitual: I *heard* about it ;)10:28
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JowiSeveas: ah, erhm... login manager. very slick. think i have a link to it.10:28
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Toma-DarkRitual: youre complaining about apache logs?10:28
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JowiSeveas: http://slim.berlios.de/10:28
n3xAnyone here thats used Gnokii before..10:28
Seveas!+info slim dapper10:28
ubotuPackage 'slim' does not exist.10:28
SeveasJowi, ah i remember now, afaik there was some interest from the xubuntu guys10:29
DarkRitualToma-, No about some asshole who hacked me when i was bashing my head on my keyboard of that huge virus called Windows10:29
orhs_i have two network controllers. one broadcom and one 3com(i just bought the 3com)10:29
JowiSeveas: faster than xdm even10:29
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jessica_im running a widescreen resolution of 1280 x 768 my boyfriend installed kubuntu-is it me or the windows on kubuntu are extremely big? is there away for me to resize them?10:29
JowiSeveas: ah ok10:29
SeveasJowi, you should ask in #xubuntu whether there are still plans to include it10:29
JowiSeveas: will do, thanks10:29
Toma-DarkRitual: ahh i see.10:30
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DarkRitualubotu, tell DarkRitual about .deb10:30
DarkRitualcrack -.-"10:31
odatxfce just reminds me of a little gnome10:31
odathowever i never see that much of a speed difference10:31
morphixjessica_, yes.. windows seem huge to me.. no matter what res :/10:31
thoreauputicodat: use it on an old box and you will feel the difference10:32
DarkRitualdpkg -i /path/to/package.deb <= this is the command to install .deb files?10:32
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odatthoreauputic, i have and granted there is a small difference however not enough to warrant the lack of features10:32
thoreauputicDarkRitual: add sudo before it10:32
odatfrom gnome10:32
thoreauputicodat: my experience is different - but for a real speed up I use a compiled version of fluxbox10:33
DarkRitualthoreauputic, i am under root10:33
DarkRitualbut i will10:33
thoreauputicDarkRitual: OK :)10:33
Toma-thoreauputic: compiled fluxbox = pure speed imho :D10:33
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odatthoreauputic, ahhh10:33
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phos-phorosDarkRitual, try dpkg -i "some.deb"10:34
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DarkRitualpackage architecture (powerpc) does not match system (i386) <= DOH! i am acting stupid now :X10:34
thoreauputicthe Ubuntu version of fluxbox has issues - but I believe the version for dapper will fix them ( xmb bug)10:34
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meborccan somebody tell me if it is safe to upgrade in dapper at the moment? :) ... meaning, has anyone done it this morning?10:36
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cafuegomeborc: from dapper TO dapper?10:36
meborcyeah... dapper testing...10:37
cafuegomeborc: Yeh, just use aptitude10:37
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cafuegomeborc: My box didn't die, so it seems it works ;-)10:37
DarkRitualodat thoreauputic, ahhh10:37
meborcok, thanks.. sometimes the dayly updates just crash the system10:37
soulslayeri need some help here, please, i damaged the x server10:37
DarkRitualErrors were encountered while processing:10:37
DarkRitual amsn10:37
Seveassoulslayer, then undo what you did...10:37
madeI'm back.. ok forget 3dchess.. I would like to know why I can't use imageshack.us in ubuntu?10:37
soulslayerno it says that it cant start the mouese10:37
Jowisoulslayer: in what way?10:37
cafuegomeborc: You'll just need to manually fix a couple of openoffice.org2 issues10:37
odatDarkRitual, processing what?10:37
orhs_hey guys i need help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" the driver version of the hardware is 3.0.7.210:38
orhs_if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength10:38
odatorhs_, ndsiwrapper10:38
soulslayerthat there are no core pointing devices or something like that10:38
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Jowisoulslayer: what was the last thing you did? Compiled your own kernel or something?10:38
soulslayernononono, im a novice please10:38
meborccafuego: i already tackeled the openoffice prob yesterday... fixed it by completely removing it and installing only write, calc, and impress... as they are the only ones i need... the lazy way out :)10:39
cafuegoTssk :-)10:39
blueandwhiteg3odat: I'm having problems with the cipherfunk.org repository10:39
blueandwhiteg3odat: is your apt-get update working properly?10:39
DarkRitualodat,  i am installing AMSN10:39
soulslayerthe only thing i did was changed the color depth using xorgconfig, but in the mouse configuration i used auto10:39
garryIts ok soulslayer , folks can help.10:39
Jowisoulslayer: easiest way to reconfigure X is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the mouse from there.10:40
odatblueandwhiteg3, does it say something about gpg   ?10:40
DarkRitualbut its whining about TkCximage10:40
garryredo and try to specifiy your specific mouse soul.10:40
orhs_odat i have used that and installed the network driver: 3CRWE154G72. but still no result.. ubuntu finds it but its disconnected at staus and when i activate it it gets deactivated after a short while. i also get many errors like:eth1: no reset complete irq seen - retrying at startup10:40
Jowisoulslayer: xorgconfig is not very accurate sometimes10:40
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blueandwhiteg3odat: yes, there is a gpg thing, but there is also a "no such file" - do they possibly not have amd64 binaries?10:40
soulslayeryes you right10:40
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cafuegoblueandwhiteg3: Not for blue&white G3's, no.10:41
soulslayeroh, im using kubuntu, is the same thing???10:41
odatblueandwhiteg3, didn't know you were on amd64   that is the probelm they don't have binaries for that10:41
odatsorry10:41
Jowisoulslayer: yep, same10:41
madewhen I go to www.imageshack.us it opens fine.. when I try to use the anything else it just times out.. I can use that site just fine in win10:41
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garryor you can look for something like your backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see inside what the mouse was chosen as and change it back via sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:41
blueandwhiteg3amd64: no problem, I didn't mention my platform.10:41
garryor you can look for something like your backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see inside what the mouse was chosen as and change it back via sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:41
garrymy first line was wrong.10:42
morphixhrm10:42
morphixwhen i open mplayer10:42
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orhs_odat, i have used that and installed the network driver: 3CRWE154G72. but still no result.. ubuntu finds it but its disconnected at staus and when i activate it it gets deactivated after a short while. i also get many errors like:eth1: no reset complete irq seen - retrying at startup10:42
soulslayeris there a backup???10:42
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jaanikamoi10:43
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phos-phoroshttp://somafm.org10:43
Jowisoulslayer: not if you didn't do one yourself. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"10:43
garryshould be one. it might be like xorg.conf~10:43
morphixwhen i open MPlayer i get error "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf"10:43
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snadgeis there a way to install a newer kernel and still be compatible with ubuntu as possible? im having cardbus issues with the latest default kernel10:43
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soulslayeranithing else before restart ubuntu...????10:43
Jowisoulslayer: no need to restart. "sudo gdm" should do it10:44
soulslayerno, the problem is i have to use winbugs to talk with you10:44
Jowisoulslayer: ah10:45
soulslayeri couldnt configure the internet connection in ubuntu10:45
appI still have no clue, why updatedb/locate is not finding  anything on my ntfs partition which is nicely accessible at /media/hda1. I can't find any configuration file for updatedb? I just ran it manually again, to make sure. Spins the disk nicely, exits nicely, but does not index the ntfs files?10:45
garryhmm, you mentioned kde soul? try startkdm or kdm.10:45
Jowisoulslayer: nope, just reconfigure X and you should be ready to go10:45
soulslayerfirst i have to fix this and then use ndiswrapper10:45
orhs_odat, i have used that and installed the network driver: 3CRWE154G72. but still no result.. ubuntu finds it but its disconnected at staus and when i activate it it gets deactivated after a short while. i also get many errors like:eth1: no reset complete irq seen - retrying at startup10:46
blueandwhiteg3Toma-: I am feeling really stupid tonight, as I can't recall the command for making my compilation be entered into apt-get, in place of make install...10:46
Toma-checkinstall10:46
alainlucashow to create a symbolic link ?10:46
Toma-:D10:46
soulslayergarry: ok10:46
Jowisudo checkinstall10:46
soulslayerill fix that10:46
JowiToma-: my memory work!10:46
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soulslayerwait for me ill go back10:47
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: theres probably a way you can use bash to swap "make install" into checkinstall10:47
blueandwhiteg3Toma-: and that's not a normal command?10:47
thoreauputicalainlucas:  ln -s /existing/file /symlink/path10:47
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: normal?10:47
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blueandwhiteg3I tried autocomplete in bash and it's not autocompleting checkinstall... oh wait... no dev tools yet, never mind10:47
garrygot to do sudo abby normal10:47
blueandwhiteg3that's, what, apt-get install dev-base or something...10:47
alainlucasthoreauputic: dor a directory ?10:47
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: you'll need to use apt-get to grab checkinstall10:47
alainlucasthoreauputic: for...10:47
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thoreauputicalainlucas: you can symlink directories10:48
Toma-its not installed by default, sadly10:48
Jowiblueandwhiteg3: sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall10:48
tomis it possible to downgrade from dapper to breezy?10:48
Toma-blueandwhiteg3: build-essential is the package you want, and checkinstall10:48
thoreauputicalainlucas:  man ln  ;-)10:48
blueandwhiteg3can't find package checkinstall...10:49
blueandwhiteg3what repository is it in?10:49
DarkRitualgrmbl10:49
Jowi!info checkinstall10:49
ubotucheckinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB10:49
thoreauputictom: not without much pain and suffering10:49
Jowiuniverse10:49
DarkRitualanny one know an diffrent notepad then Gedit?10:49
JowiDarkRitual: mousepad10:49
madeI'm out... I guess I'll have to plug and troubleshoot myself.. ttyl10:49
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Toma-DarkRitual: vi10:49
tomthoreauputic: hmm dapper is much pain already :)10:49
JowiDarkRitual: nano10:49
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thoreauputictom: heh10:49
orhs_if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength10:49
thoreauputicDarkRitual: mousepad, scite, beaver10:50
soulslayerorhs: your wifi should be wlan0 no eth110:50
Toma-bbl.10:50
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Jowiorhs_: lo is the local loopback network10:50
soulslayerorhs: are you using ndiswrapper??10:50
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DarkRitual(gedit:5162): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display <----10:50
orhs_soulslayer, but why is it eth1 ?10:50
JowiDarkRitual: if you don't run X, try "nano"10:51
garrymust do that from a gnome or kde terminal Dark.10:51
DarkRitualI am running X10:51
DarkRitualI am doing it trough the terminal10:51
DarkRituali need to make an script10:51
orhs_soulslayer, i installed one driver at ndis wrapper but there is no result change between the installed driver and before the driver was installed10:51
DarkRitualto install A-MSN10:51
thoreauputicDarkRitual: I bet you are trying to run it as root - am I right?10:51
soulslayerorhs: you should configurate the modules first, install ndiswrapper from the beginning10:51
garrysounds like Jowl's advice would work better.10:52
DarkRitualEhhhh10:52
DarkRitualshit10:52
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orhs_soulslayer, but i have no network connection on my 'nix machine10:52
thoreauputicDarkRitual: you can't have 2 users on the same display :)10:52
JowiDarkRitual, as thoreauputic said. should't run gedit as root. gksudo will work10:52
thoreauputicDarkRitual: ctrl-d to log out of root, then gksudo gedit10:53
garryRoots are for trees! Save the trees, use sudo!10:53
soulslayerorhs: check the instruccions for installation at ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net10:53
soulslayeruse the instructions exactly10:53
soulslayerand will work10:53
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gregpeace and blessings10:54
DarkRitualthoreauputic,  thnx for waking me up it works now :)10:54
blueandwhiteg3What version of the kernel comes with 5.1010:54
soulslayerohrs: in the next ten minutes im gonna try to install my pcmcia wifi, ill bring some instructions, wait.10:54
thoreauputicDarkRitual: no worries :) Just don't try to run X apps as root!10:54
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DarkRitualon fedora it aint an problem10:55
blueandwhiteg3I need to grab the headers to build alsa...10:55
DarkRitualbut debian based its more security10:55
thoreauputicDarkRitual: this isn't Fedora ;)10:55
DarkRitualI am not on 1 row today10:55
DarkRitualspecialy what happend last night10:55
gregcan anyone guide me through a mounting of a second physical harddrive?10:55
Jowiblueandwhiteg3: apt-cache search --names-only linux-image10:55
DarkRitualthoreauputic, i am aware off i got the manuals here XD10:55
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orhs_soulslayer, but there is no difference if the driver is installed or not. linux did find it when i just plugged the card in. the 3com card i have uses prism54 chipset10:56
thoreauputicDarkRitual: yeah I know :) Just having an obvious day ;-)10:56
DarkRitualanother problem damned10:56
orhs_soulslayer, ok10:56
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Madpilot!tell greg about mount10:56
DarkRituali beg to god to make my day an little bit better for this week...10:56
polpakgreg: sudo /dev/name_of_drive_from_dmesg_followed_by_partition_number /directory/you/want/the/files/mounted/to10:56
Madpilotneed sleep, later all10:56
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polpakgreg: err10:56
DarkRituallaters mad10:56
orhs_darkritual, what god is that? :P10:56
polpakgreg: sudo mount /dev/name_of_drive_from_dmesg_followed_by_partition_number /directory/you/want/the/files/mounted/to10:56
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gregokay let me look at what you are writing10:57
DarkRitualorhs_, he just hates me when i think unlogicaly10:57
JowiDarkRitual: "Heppy Newyear" didn't do it for you I guess :-/10:57
Jowiheppy=happy10:57
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appOK, I found it. It looks like updatedb will use /etc/updatedb.conf by default, although this is extremely confusingly almost non-documented on updatdb and sloate manual pages. And there ir IGNORES /media by default, where Breezy puts ntfs by default!!??10:57
DarkRitualsorry Jowi10:57
JowiDarkRitual: just ment that it's not been the greatest start of the new year for you, that's all10:58
DarkRitualIts not a problem i just woke up with an depressed feellings and i can't handle with it on the right way my appoligice for that10:58
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appSo this is the reason why locate does not find stuff on Windows partition.10:58
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DarkRitualJowi, take me for example of an bad year :)10:58
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appThis is clearly a bug: putting WIndows partition in /media and ignoring it in locate.10:59
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garryUnless it isn't mounted and doesn't auto mount.11:00
orhs_oh oh! my movies are finished!11:00
garryon second thought, nix that, I could be mistaken.11:00
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orhs_hehe soon king kong time!11:01
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meborci mount my fat32 partition like this: [B] sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 -t vfat -o umask=000[/B] 11:01
appBTW, Breezy by default put my Windows partition with "defaults" options on fstab, which is bad, because it is owned by root then and nor readable e.g. by the default Desktop icon to it.11:01
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gregpolpak, I am looking at sudo fdisk -l and I am looking for partition number11:02
gregi am also looking at dmesg11:02
garryyep, app, lemme send a corrected sample line that might help for that. sec ...11:02
gregis it the start number? iD number?11:02
blueandwhiteg3OK, which of the myriad of kernel options do I want to apt-get so I can finished the ./configure of alsa... and no, telling me to search with apt-cache doesn't cut it (I have the AMD64 install of Ubuntu)11:03
orhs_turned out that the king kong movie was a porn flick.....11:03
Sturgeonhow do i schedule something in gnome?11:03
garryapp heres is a sample of what I use for ntfs devices names will be different naturally /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       011:03
Sturgeon(i want it to do something at a given hour)11:03
gregwhat my line looks like so far polpak is:11:03
gregsudo mount /dev/hda1  /home/greg/Desktop/200/11:03
Sturgeonspecifically play loud music so I wake up :)11:04
gregi am trying to mount hda1 onto hdb desktop in folder 20011:04
thoreauputicblueandwhiteg3: have you installed  linux-headers-$(uname -r)  ?11:04
blueandwhiteg3ahh yes that sounds about right...11:04
JowiSturgeon: man crontab :)11:04
DarkRitualWheee11:05
DarkRitualMSN works11:05
Sturgeonyeah i looked a bit but it seems to be a console app11:05
JowiSturgeon: crontab have very advanced time options11:05
garrygrats11:05
gregwhere is the partition number if you would?11:05
Sturgeoncan i make it run a gnome application?11:05
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ubijtsaSturgeon: what are you trying to do?11:06
JowiSturgeon: google for "crontab examples" and you will find tons. "crontab -e" will let you edit it. there is a crontab frontend but it is not very good.11:06
thoreauputicSturgeon:  sleep 8h && cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   <-- that should wake you up *grin*11:07
kjarniHi, I just installed 5.10 and am stuck in 640x480 (nvidia card), I've installed the drivers ala ubuntuguide.com and tried reconfiguring xserver via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but, alas, nothing works. Any tips to what I should do and/or a uri to a page with help?11:07
aftertafkjarni:  ubuntuguide is a nightmare11:07
aftertaf!nvidia11:08
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736811:08
Jowi!tell kjarni about nvidia11:08
Sturgeonthoreauputic: hehehe11:08
Sturgeonthoreauputic: yeah but i should replace that "8h" by "4h" :(11:08
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thoreauputicSturgeon: I sometimes use   sleep 4h && mpg321 /path/to/loud/music.mp311:09
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kjarniThanks, I'll follow those instructions and bug you if I manage to not get it :)11:09
aftertaf:)11:09
thoreauputicor variations thereof...11:09
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garryLoud MP3 recordings of someone say oh bleep!! I just recursively gzipped / into a file and the entire linux partition is empty are guaranteed waker-uppers.11:11
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thoreauputicSturgeon: if you prefer to listen to the kernel you can  cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp  :D11:12
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techoneok so my firefox just disappeared off the screen11:12
garrywow, clever Thor!11:12
Seveastechone, it probably fell on the ground11:13
thoreauputicgarry: subtly different music from /dev/urandom  heh ;)11:13
Jowitechone: look *behind* the screen11:13
techoneat iso hunt I initiated a bunch of downloads most of which timed out so I just did a search for alchemy and then firefox just blinked off.11:13
techone;^)11:13
Sturgeonthoreauputic: i'll use that, thanks11:14
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garryLOL!! I hear the kernel!!!11:14
techoneim trying to identify the cause of odd behaviour on this box like firfox closing and pwoer downs11:14
garryIt says NT means Nice Try.11:15
techonehow can I identify what cause firefox to choke11:15
thoreauputicgarry: if it sounds horible, submit a bug report ;)11:15
garrythoreauputic ROFL11:15
thoreauputictechone: try running it from a termianl, or run strace firefox11:15
Seveasgarry, no, you hear /dev/urandom11:16
thoreauputicbah typos11:16
Seveasto hear the kernel: cat /proc/kcore > /dev/dsp11:16
thoreauputicSeveas: ah interesting :)11:16
garryOh man, adn that's a long file too.11:16
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SeveasYou might hear linus say 'F* you, Eric Raymond'11:16
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thoreauputicSeveas: ROFL11:16
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Juskihi folks.  I'm having problems getting XvMC to work - it's installed (apparently) but doesn't seem to be usable... anyone have any pointers?11:17
techoneok so strace wont tell me why the last instance died but maybe the next one, is that right?11:18
thoreauputictechone: yes11:18
enkravHello, what's the reason Ubuntu doesn't install Linux Standard Base in the default installation?11:18
thoreauputictechone: mind you it will possibly be pretty arcane stuff11:18
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techoneenkrav, what is the Linux Standard Base?11:19
enkravhttp://www.linuxbase.org/11:20
danjohello11:20
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danjois there a german ubuntu channel too?11:20
ubijtsaenkrav: might be that it is a little to invasive yet and would break things11:20
Seveas!de11:20
uboturumour has it, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de11:20
thoreauputic!de11:20
thoreauputicSeveas: always too quick for me :)11:20
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Seveasthoreauputic, that's why I'm the lartist :)11:21
ubijtsaenkrav: saw something on the mailing lists that LSB is coming, might not be in Dapper, but perhaps Dapper+111:21
morphixwhen i playback video in MPlayer in fullscreen.. the video is VERY choppy11:21
morphixand also how to i output AC3 to SPDIF?11:21
thoreauputicSeveas: ah yes, and I'm the artist (not so tech savvy )11:21
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Jowimorphix: try another -vo11:21
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morphix-vo??11:22
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Jowimorphix: video output. mplayer -vo help11:22
SillyZmorning, quick q.... I have a few operations id like to preform at each boot ( command line stuff ) where can I put these commands so they will be executed at each boot and before gdm loads?11:22
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tocahola?11:22
Seveashi toca11:22
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tocahombre...11:22
tocajeje11:22
thoreauputicSillyZ: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  is one solution11:22
Seveastoca, please speak english in here11:23
Seveas!es11:23
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:23
tocaya em pensava que me tendria que poner a ablar en ingles o algo asi :P11:23
tocajejeje11:23
SillyZbootmisc ok ill look into that one11:23
JowiSillyZ: /etc/init.d then link them to SnumberCommand in /etc/rc2.d11:23
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thoreauputicJowi's way is more correct11:23
soulslayerok, i fixed the x problem11:23
Seveascool soulslayer11:24
Jowicongrats soulslayer11:24
soulslayerthanks11:24
SillyZJowi, I dont understand the numbering system used in rc2.d11:24
SillyZwhat would be a good number to use? 90 ?11:24
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soulslayerbut the command dpkg -reconfigure xserver -xorg wasnt the solution11:24
JowiSillyZ: very simple capital S mean Start. the number is the order. higher = later.11:24
SillyZok11:24
SillyZso like S99 is last and S00 is first11:25
SillyZgot it11:25
soulslayerthe solution was using /dev/input/mice as the pointing device11:25
JowiSillyZ: yep11:25
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garrythanks, good to know soul.11:25
soulslayernow i have another question that is not good explained in the howto's11:26
soulslayerhow can i use my pen drive11:26
Seveasplug it in11:26
Seveasit should mount automagically11:26
soulslayermount /dev/hda5 or sda1 is not the solution11:26
garryyep, and an icon shows on the desktop11:26
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soulslayernope11:26
garryhehe11:26
garryhmmm,11:27
polpaksoulslayer: did you try just plugging it in?11:27
soulslayerit appear in media but when i try to acces it show me an error11:27
Deterministdude, i hope our prime minister doesnt drop dead, things dont look too good at the moment11:27
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polpaksoulslayer: what error?11:27
soulslayeryes i tried11:27
SillyZJowi, thanks now to give this a try on boot11:27
SillyZbrb11:27
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greghey thanks popak I got it going and its working nice. Have a great night.11:29
gregPeace11:29
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gregi mean polpak11:29
soulslayersorry people i lost my line, you where saying something11:30
Seveassoulslayer, copy the complete error or a screenshot of it on the pastebin11:30
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soulslayeri was telling you that there is an error11:30
alex___is there anyone with experience with marillat ?11:30
Seveasalex___, don't use it11:30
soulslayerhow can i take a screenshot of it??11:30
Seveasbetter use plf or cipherfunk, these are made for ubuntu11:30
Seveassoulslayer, the print screen button :)11:30
morphixhow can i default .avi & .mpg, etc to MPlayer intead of totem11:31
morphixinstead*11:31
Seveasmorphix, in firefox?11:31
soulslayeroh, thanks sorry for my ignorance11:31
Jowimorphix: "open with..."11:31
soulslayerill go back11:31
alex___Seveas: well iHave a client that wants to stream real video content, what are my solutions ?11:31
morphixin anywhere.11:31
soulslayerplease wait11:31
Seveasalex___, cipherfunk or plf :)11:31
Seveas!tell alex___ about easysource11:31
Seveasthere you fond sources.list lines for them11:32
Seveasfind*11:32
alex___Seveas: can I stream real content with plf ?11:32
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Seveasyes11:32
Seveasplf has w32codecs too11:32
bimberiubotu: tell morphix about defaultapp11:32
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morphixargh.. ok.. this is annoying.. when i go fullscreen in MPlayer the video is really jerky.. when i open things in Totem files play extremely fast11:34
Berhello11:34
Beris this the ubunto Masters server???11:34
alex___Seveas: thanks11:34
Berare you masters??11:34
Bercan you answer a question??11:35
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Jowi...but our lipsyncs are better!11:35
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jaguarbye-everyone!11:35
thoreauputicBer: why don't you ask one and see ?11:35
jaguarhave fun!11:36
alex___Seveas: plf as in Penguin Liberation Front :)11:36
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fekhi11:36
Beri wondering how to make Ubunto look like WINDOWS XP11:36
Seveasalex___, yup11:36
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thoreauputic;-)11:36
Berhe11:36
alex___and inside plf, what should I look for ?11:36
madeI'm noob.. how do I install the latest firefox.  I have 1.0.7 installed I want 1.511:36
thoreauputic!firefox1.511:36
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:36
Beryou ar enoob11:36
Berlike me11:37
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Seveasalex___, w32codecs, look at the url ubotu gave you for a link to plf and sources.list entries11:37
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stylesp!help11:37
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madeand another thing.. I can't get dvds to play11:37
Seveas!dvd11:37
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:37
JowiBer: art.gnome.org11:37
thoreauputichmm what happened there ?11:38
Berjowi11:38
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appAnyone know, how to move oversized windows (like Skype personal profile window) through the top of the X background, so that I can see the lower hafl of the non-scrollable window?11:38
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Seveasapp, hold <alt>, click, drag11:38
Berjowi THanks11:38
fekis it safe, to change hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list and do and update && dist-upgrade?11:39
alex___Seveas: but ...plf is illegal is not it ?11:39
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Seveasit's as legal/illegal as marillat11:39
Berwhat is GNOME11:39
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stylespan Desktop like KDE11:40
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Hobbsee!tell Ber about gnome11:40
BerKDE?11:40
Hobbsee!tell Ber about kde11:40
thoreauputicBer: GNU Object Model Environment IIRC11:40
Jowifek: generally. but i would advice to remove openoffice first. it borked my upgrade. just install it again after your done. oh, and install ubuntu-desktop before you dist-upgrade11:40
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stylespan Frontend to the System11:40
Jowiubotu, tell fek about breezyupgrade11:40
Beris it like style Xp11:40
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stylespit looks good11:41
Berbut  alredy in the system11:41
fekJowi: i installed OO by myself, becaus the package in hoary was bad11:41
stylespand has themes11:41
seliniumapp, I have had the same problem with Skype, I have had to go into System/prefs/screen resolution to change the res up, then shrink the box, then change the res back, a pain I know11:41
thoreauputicBer:  look at  http://xwinman.org11:41
Jowifek: yeah, same here. remove it before upgrading11:41
Seveasselinium, hold <alt>, click, drag11:41
Bercan i make it looks like  win xp11:41
LootBeercan someone help me how do i add a user to my linux system?11:42
fekdid it before11:42
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chronoshi all11:42
Berhow to see witch game ubuntu can play, i want to play games like starcraft , halflife 2 .....11:42
stylespadduser NAME11:42
stylespsudo befor11:42
seliniumSeveas, I learn something new everyday! :)11:42
JowiLootBeer: simple solution: "sudo users-admin"11:42
chronosgnomefreak: in ubuntu livecd 4.10 have grub11:42
SeveasBer, if you want it to look like windows and play windows games, use windows...11:42
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Berno11:43
Jaymacor cedega11:43
JowiLootBeer: if you use stylesp solution you will have to add userdir and groups manually as well11:43
appSeveas, alt-dragging will not lift windows through the upper edge of the screen, not with Metacity defaults. Can you change that?11:43
Beri just want it to look like it caz i am used to it11:43
aftertafbuy cedega, it lets you run your win games no problem11:43
Seveasapp, for me it does..11:43
seliniumBer, Seveas You can always look at http://www.linuxgames.com/ for linux supported games.11:43
ubuntu_hey, I put a windows disk in my computer, and it installed windows bootloader, so i cant get to my linux, how can i re install the ubuntu boot loader without completely reinstalling ubuntu11:43
Berthis consept is mutch better then win xp11:43
stylesp@Bet get a LiveCD and have a look11:43
aftertafBer:  for the looks thing, make it look like linux, and unlearn your dark side ways ;)11:43
Seveas!tell ubuntu_ about grub11:43
Bergehhehe11:43
ubuntu_ty11:44
Beri am on a live cd right now!!! but i not good to finding things11:44
appAnyone with Breezy defaults, can you alt-drag windows through the top of the screen?11:44
seliniumapp, no it shrinks the window for me.11:44
Seveasapp, as I said: /me :)11:44
Seveaswell, I only tried with gtk apps11:45
Seveasnot qt ones11:45
Berwhat do i need for security if i INSTALL  ubunto......11:45
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SeveasBer, a brain :)11:45
aftertafBer:  if you install ubuntu, you are secure11:45
thoreauputicBer: by default, nothing really11:45
Berno i need persenol firewasll11:45
seliniumapp click and drag from the centre of the application and see what happens..11:45
Berhacking??11:45
Seveasaftertaf, security is limited by the stupidity of the user, that's why you always need a brain :)11:45
SeveasBer, ubuntu has no open ports by default11:46
thoreauputicBer: you don't need a firewall unless you run internet facing servers11:46
JowiBer: you do not need a firewall in a default install11:46
Berbut if i play games i open ports right?11:46
appOr anyone who knows how to configure the window move behaviour in Breezy/Metacity?11:46
aftertafBer:  forget everytinhg you know about windows computing and start with a fresh slate in a brave new world ;)11:46
Berhehee11:46
seliniumBer, sudo apt-get install firestarter       it is a gui for the iptables11:46
Determinist!w32codecs11:46
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install11:46
Seveasa wmf-exploit free world11:46
aftertafoh yeah baby ;)11:47
thoreauputicBer:  linux != windows ( linux > windows)11:47
aftertaf!lartist11:47
ubotuBeing a linux deity is a true lart form, not all can become true lartists(tm)11:47
Jowiapp: gconf-editor11:47
Beri  just heard i needed to be scareed off hackers and not viruses11:47
SeveasROFL@aftertaf11:47
aftertaf:)11:47
Beri am not a haxor11:48
Jowiapp: should be under /apps/metacity11:48
aftertafBer:  ubuntu linux is closed up tight by default. be scared if you then go and open all the windows in your new house11:48
seliniumBer, linux is so much more secure.11:48
Beri just want to know if i am secured and i can play my games11:48
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stylespwe see ;)11:48
thoreauputicBer: we guessed11:48
thoreauputicheh11:48
seliniumHacker? Cracker? :)11:48
Berhow to see  before i buy a game if i can play it on linux11:48
stylespwhat games are ur games?=11:49
seliniumBer, buy games?11:49
Beris there any LISt???11:49
stylespsteam runs11:49
stylespwineHQ11:49
seliniumhttp://www.linuxgames.com11:49
JaymacBer..11:49
Jaymachttp://appdb.winehq.org11:49
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aftertafBer:  all commercial games (or almost) are windows only.11:49
Jaymachas a fairly decent list11:49
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aftertafsee transgaming.com for how to run them on linux.11:49
Jaymacall commercial games are designed to run on Windows11:49
Berbut you can play theme11:49
Berright11:49
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Jaymacmost can be played on Linux with a bit of work11:49
aftertafBer:  or keep a windows partition just for gaming if it matters that much to you.11:50
aftertafBer:  or until the time where you know enough in linux to get them to work.11:50
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thoreauputicaftertaf: don't hold your breath ;)11:50
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aftertafhehe thoreauputic  :)11:50
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Berif i make a partition on an other disk for windows is i both secure and able to play GAMes???11:51
aftertafset yourself a date limit when you'll free up 15 gig of gunk off your harddrive ;)11:51
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thoreauputic!tell Ber about docs11:51
Berhehe11:51
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sdaserverhi11:52
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sdaserveri'm a newbie and i just installed ubuntu a couple of hours ago11:52
sdaserverneed help11:52
appJowi, I don't see a setting that dis-en-ables window moves through the screentop, in gconf-editor / apps / metacity11:52
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Beri alredy have NTFS installed disk on Windows and i am going to buy a NEW one that i gonna but  UBUNTU on  so then i can install all games to the WINDOWS NTFS drive ???11:52
aftertafsdaserver:  1) just ask... 2) well done ;)11:52
sdaserverhelp, anyone?11:53
Jowiapp: screentop? what's that?11:53
aftertafBer:  linux cant write to ntfs11:53
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aftertaf!tell sdaserver about ask11:53
apptop of the screen, or to be prcise, higher than the bottome menu bar lower edge11:53
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Berhow to make it work11:53
app, Jowi.11:53
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Berreinstall drive??11:53
yanishhhello ppl11:53
aftertafin fat, yeah :)11:53
Berfatt32??11:54
thoreauputic!install11:54
ubotuI heard install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation11:54
thoreauputicBer: ^^^11:54
Jowiapp: let me see if i got it straight... you want the window to be able to be placed on top of the gnome-panel?11:54
sdaserverhow does one access the dhcp server from the gnome?11:54
appTo clear: Jowi, I can't move windows through the upper menu/panel bar, it like blocks window moves11:54
yanishhI installed ubuntu in 'server' install'. what should I apt-get now to have X-windows??11:54
aftertafyanishh:  kubuntu-desktop11:55
Beryou said i shold make an partision on windows11:55
blue-frogsdaserver, ther's no dhcp server installed by default on ubuntu11:55
Bernot NTFS11:55
Ber??11:55
appJowi, I just want to see the lower end of an extra large non-sizeable and non-scrollable window.11:55
sdaserverso should i use synaptics to install it?11:55
sdaserveri think i did that already11:55
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thoreauputicBer: read the URL ubotu posted11:55
Beri must have that partision my  new computer comes next Week!!11:55
Berwhere11:55
Jowiapp: ahhhhh, ok. hold the <alt> key while click/hold in the window to move it.11:56
thoreauputicBer:  ubotu I heard install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation11:56
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yanishhaftertaf I kust want the xserveR!not a destktop11:56
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Berok11:56
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appJowi,  I can't because metacity does not allow alt-dragging a window, the upper panel menu bar blocks it. Bump! and there it stops, no matter haw much I alt-drag from the middle of the window!11:57
Dave|idi have decided to install ubuntu 5.10, i tried the live cd but when it boots up it stops on "Starting hotplug subsystem"11:57
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Dave|idthe live cd for 5.04 works fine11:57
appJowi, I can also hit alt-F7, and the window goes to move state, but still its the same: there is an invisible border at the top, you can not move windows over it.11:57
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Dave|idi have tried two 5.10 live cds now11:58
Jowiapp: then we must be able to tell gnome-panel that it shouldn't. metacity is not causing that behaviour, it is gnome-panel11:58
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Dave|idi ended up trying to install 5.10, it finished the first part of the install, rebooted and once again came stuck on the hotplug subsystem screen11:59
appSeveas says its working for him, Jowi.11:59
Berif i have an WINDOWS partision i ca play games  like  NOW???????11:59
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Berwith wondows...11:59
Seveasapp, oddly enough, it only worked with the ati installer11:59
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Seveasapp, I can't move normal gnome-terminal above that border11:59
thoreauputicBer: if you keep your windows install and dual boot Ubuntu, you can play your windows games in windows11:59
Jowiapp: maybe there is a setting in gconf-editor /apps/panel somewhere... best guess i have atm12:00
yanishhI installed ubuntu in 'server' install'. what should I apt-get now to have X-windows??12:00
Berbut i dont want to use windows i relly insted want an partision and i gonna sell my disc with windows on....12:00
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Beri dont want to be half secured!12:01
DeterministSeveas, any idea if there are plans to implement drag and drop with the gnome menu?12:01
aftertafyanishh:  kubuntu-desktop12:01
Berand i dont want to choose bppt everytime12:01
Berboot12:01
thoreauputicyanishh: if you want gnome,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop - for xfce4  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:01
aftertafyanishh:  sudo apt-get install (k)ubuntu-desktop   gnome or kde.12:01
yanishhaftertaf: I told you I Dont want a desktop!!!!!!12:01
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thoreauputicyanishh: for others, it depends12:01
aftertafxserver-xorg then12:01
Beri i going to use windows for games i just can use windows all time caz i play all time12:02
madedvd12:02
Berso its no option for me12:02
aftertafyanishh:  missed that bit...12:02
JowiBer: you need windows to play certain games (not only a ntfs partition). that's a fact. if you need to be able to play those games, keep windows. you can't give the cake away and keep it.12:02
aftertafxserver-xorg will bring in all the x components for you yanishh12:02
Beri just want a bite of the cake left12:02
yanishhaftertaf: right I used that, Xserver is on my system but other important components didnt install!!!12:02
thoreauputicyanishh: I missed that too - xserver-xorg  or x-window-system-core12:02
yanishhaftertaf: they didnt !!!!12:03
sdaserverok, again12:03
Berso i cant play all games with the partision??12:03
thoreauputicyanishh: see above12:03
yanishhI dont know why...12:03
Ber=(12:03
aftertafyanishh:  did it say what was missing?12:03
sdaserverhow does one access, after having it installed, the dhcp server?12:03
aftertaf x-window-system-core12:03
thoreauputicyanishh:  x-window-system-core or x-window-system12:03
sdaserveror at least, how does one access the apache web server12:03
aftertafsdaserver:  its in text files, or you can get a module for webmin12:03
yanishhok I ll try them12:03
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thoreauputicyanishh: then if you need a window manager install that12:04
sdaserveraftertaf: that would be for the apache?12:04
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aftertafsdaserver:  for either dhcp or apache. look at all the webmin modules available (in synaptic)12:04
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DRitualwooohoo12:04
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Berit jsut must be posseble to crap the windows ant use ubunto and play all games without using the Windows OPerating SYSTEm tell me PlEAZe12:05
JowiBer: I know how you feel :) Some games play well in linux though, quake/2/4, homeworld etx. There is a commercial application called Cedega ( www.transgaming.com ) that you can pay for to make them work. if your games are on that list you can play them in linux.12:05
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DarkRitualwww.newtorrents.info <= Cedega ^^12:05
Berpay...never12:05
aftertafBer:  most games can be done that way, not all...    life forces us to choose sometimes.12:05
appSo the gtk windows move past the top for you Seveas? Are you running Breezy with defaults?12:05
aftertaflol app , you're on a crusade there ;)12:06
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BerJOwi...12:06
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Berwho is the best  HAXOR in here12:06
thoreauputicapp: write a letter of complaint to Havoc Pennington ;-)12:06
Seveasapp, oddly enough, it only worked with the ati installer<--12:06
Seveasapp, I can't move normal gnome-terminal above that border<--12:06
Jowiapp: file a bug (or use another window manager) :)12:07
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aftertafBer:  but for now, i suggest you install ubuntu and familiarise yourself with it. forget gaming for a while, boot to windows for that.      - and there arent any haxors here,, or at least they dont show off in here as such;12:07
Dave|idjust found out i can press control c to skip it, i suspect my issue may be a fault with the onboard sound card12:07
morphixwhen i open a folder/dir in file browser.. when i open a subdir.. it opens a whole new window12:07
appaftertaf, I just need to make Skype work. It is an essential business tool in my company, and I am evaluating Breezy as an accepted workstation standard.12:07
sdaserveraftertaf: i can't follow that webmin thing12:07
BerDave id12:07
Dave|idwill log a job with bugzolla12:07
morphixhow do i make it open up in the same window12:07
Beryou know...12:07
blueandwhiteg3Anybody have an idea why Ubtuntu might decide to load up tty1 instead of the nice GUI login? I can type startx and be into gnome, of course, but it's kinda funky...12:07
Beri am right now buing an computer a brain new  7800GT  3700+ .....12:08
aftertafapp:  argh. weird12:08
Jowiapp: i use skype, have no problem with wierd window sizes.12:08
aftertafblueandwhiteg3:  reconfigure your gdm/kdm12:08
madedvd won't play.12:08
Berand  i buy it to play games and effect movies and music12:08
aftertaf!dvd12:08
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:08
appaftertaf and thoreauputic: attitudes like yours are the main reason Linux in not yet ready for business acceptance.12:08
blueandwhiteg3aftertaf: where can i reconfigure those?12:08
Jowiapp: seveas has got the latest skype build. are you using that?12:08
thoreauputicapp: I think you are taking me a bit too seriously12:09
appJowi, can you see the picture settings at the bottom of the Skype personal profile window?12:09
aftertafapp:  dont take it badly.... what did i say? i've never used skype so i'm not gonna try and give you help on it... where would that get you?12:09
thoreauputicapp: in fact far too seriously12:09
Jowiapp: will launch skype to see12:09
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aftertafblueandwhiteg3:  type sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm12:09
Berwhat is diffrent with the 64 bit  UBUNTO from the orginal12:09
Beris it nicer?12:10
appJowi, I ma using the FC3 Skype on their Web page, alienated to a deb.12:10
aftertafBer:  not same processor, so not compiled same.12:10
Seveasapp, that's bad...12:10
SillyZq: getting alot of atkbd.c setkeycode e20a msg's in dmesg, should I report this as a bug?12:10
SeveasSillyZ, no12:10
Berbut is it nicer or the same??12:10
thoreauputicapp:  thoreauputic app: write a letter of complaint to Havoc Pennington ;-)   <-- see the little smiley thing ?12:10
Jowiapp: use their deb instead12:10
aftertafSillyZ:  i get that at times in updates with dapper.12:10
SillyZMornin Seveas , ok12:10
SeveasJowi, not even that :)12:10
Jowiapp: yeah, i see all the settings12:10
SillyZwell Im on a laptop so wasnt sure12:10
aftertafBer:  same, but different...12:10
sdaserveranyone: Has anybody attempted to make their ubuntu machine into an Internet gateway?12:10
appJowi, the Skype deb package It does not work on Breezy!12:10
Seveasapp, grab the correct one from my repo12:11
Jowiapp: grab it from seveas12:11
SillyZwhats your site again sevas?12:11
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Seveas!seveas12:11
ubotuyou are, like, a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:11
bimberi!skype12:11
ubotuskype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/12:11
aftertafseveas is one who puts himself out a hell of a  lot to advance ubuntu in all ways app....  for info :P12:11
KaskOOye_hello12:11
Bercan i play all the new games i heard to old is not always working,   but can  i PLAY  the new like, FEAR, AGE OF EMPIRES 3 m.m.......12:11
KaskOOye_i'm running for the first time ubuntu. happy12:12
SeveasBer, look at the cedega website for a list of supported games12:12
aftertafBer:  quit it with the games for now, install your ubuntu and learn to use it.12:12
SeveasKaskOOye_, welcome :)12:12
NgBer: the newer a game is, the less likely it is to work, I would say12:12
appWell I can see Seveas is botht the most friendly, most helpful and most skillful person here. Cheers!!12:12
aftertafapp:  ;)12:12
Berless!!12:12
Ber??12:12
NgBer: because the newest games have the highest requirements12:12
techoneok so last I was here I ran strace firefox and it sat on the welcome to Ubuntu page for like an hour then I selected firefox typed in isohunt.com hit enter and firefox died12:13
Seveasapp, that's arguable but thanks :)12:13
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aftertafapp:  and he's a reknowned lartist ;)12:13
Berso th eoperating system dont want to play them12:13
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techonewhat useful things can I read from srtace that might be of help to indicate the cause???12:13
zool2005is it possible to add commands (eg SHRED) to the context menu (right-click) ??12:14
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Ngzool2005: pick the Open with Other Application option, it should remember actions you use from there for that file type12:14
Seveaszool2005, yes, you can make your own nautilus scripts12:14
Ngor yeah, if you want it to be more global use a script :)12:15
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BerUbunto is  good !! to good but i miss the compebility to GAMEs if its was more OK then i shold make all my friends to Convert i promisse but its hard to tell them you cant play all games, my friends  play more then other things12:15
Berio have 15 ubuntu CD at home12:15
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zool2005Seveas, can you give me any pointers?12:16
aftertafBer:  they could buy a PS2 in that case ;)12:16
Seveas!listvals scripts12:16
ubotuFactoid search of 'scripts' by value (1 shown): nautilus scripts #DEL#.12:16
mcphailzool2005: add scripts to $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/12:16
Seveas!unforget nautilus scripts12:16
ubotuSeveas: Successfully recovered 'nautilus scripts'.  Have fun now.12:16
Seveas!nautilus scripts12:16
ubotuI heard nautilus scripts is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101870&highlight=nautilus+scripts12:16
Bercomputer games is mutch better...12:16
Seveas^-- zool200512:16
SillyZSeveas, I ran into one, installation of Gnome-XChat requires the removal of ubuntu-desktop?12:16
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Beris there any Games in here that plays alot?????12:17
Bergamer12:17
SeveasSillyZ, correct12:17
ccookeber: Sure.12:17
SillyZisnt uninstalling ubuntu desktop a bad thing?12:17
Berhow you paly all games12:17
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SeveasBer, I play linux games12:17
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Seveasmy favourite is gcc :)12:17
Berliek12:17
Berlike12:17
soulslayer2uh, i lost my signal12:17
CanYouHelpMePlzi play gnometris alot12:17
ccookeBer: cedega plays all the games I want at the moment.12:17
SeveasBer, xmoto, xgalaga, supertux12:18
Seveasmonkey-bubble :D12:18
ccookethat, and many of the games I want to play have linux versions12:18
Berstarcraft??12:18
JowiSillyZ: only needed if you're gonna upgrade the system later on. ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove. it is a metapackage12:18
Beranyone play starcraft and counterstrike??12:18
ccookeber: starcraft used to run under plain wine.12:18
Berwarcraft 3??12:18
ben_underscoreanyone know anything about openoffice spell checking?12:18
NgBer: I play Counterstrike:Source in cedega12:18
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soulslayer2ok this the error when using make to install ndis http://pastebin.com/49155812:18
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ccookeber: Warcraft 3 works, I recall. Been months since I installed it, though.12:19
Bercedega is it like steAM12:19
ccookeI tend to find games on linux run faster, though.12:19
NgBer: it's not as fast or as pretty as playing it in Windows, but it means not rebooting and I can still shoot people in the head ;)12:19
CanYouHelpMePlzcedega is for running windows12:19
soulslayer2kernel sources???12:19
CanYouHelpMePlzprograns,12:19
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Seveassoulslayer2, you don't need to compile ndiswrapper12:19
NgBer: not really, it's a tool you can use to install/play windows games, but you still need the CD or setup.exe or whatever, it doesn't download them for you like Steam does, if that's what you meant12:19
BerOK so the grafick is worser??12:19
Seveas!tell soulslayer2 about ndiswrapper12:19
ccookeNeverwinter Nights, for instance, runs faster at higher resolutions than the windows version.12:19
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ccookeber: The graphics are usually the same.12:20
Ngccooke: that depends what hardware features the games use - Source uses way more shader stuff in Windows ime12:20
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Berok12:21
soulslayer2but anyway is important to have that kernel sources, in the future ill maybe need to compile other programs12:21
Seveassoulslayer2, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:21
Berhow to PROGRESS going to fix it for gamers is it going to be solved12:21
Ber??12:21
ccookeber: taking the example of NWN: under linux it's just about playable at 1920x1200 with all the graphics enabled. Under windows... it crashes if you try to run it at anything over 1280x1024, and it runs slower *Then*.12:21
morphixwhen i start Firefox 1.5 (i followed the install guide) i get a Chrome registration failed12:21
morphixwhat is that.. and how do i fix it?12:22
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ccookeber: is what going to be solved?12:22
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Bercompatility12:22
soulslayer2linux-headers are alredy installed12:22
Berto all game12:22
SillyZhmm libstdc++5 missing on skype install12:22
Bers12:22
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soulslayer2i checked that12:22
ubuntu__.12:22
JowiBer: ask the companies that produce the games12:22
ccookeber: Will never happen until linux has a large enough userbase to get all games released on it.12:23
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chun_hi all, i have tried to change the resolution in xorg.conf and have restarted X, but nothing has changed:/ there is also no error at the xorg log, any ideas?12:23
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soulslayer2and build essential to12:23
ccookeber: wine/cedega do a very good job, but there are limits to what is possible.12:23
morphixwhen linux becomes the most common os.. just think of the viruses :/12:23
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soulslayer2Seveas: what do you think12:23
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JackJdoes anyone know how to mount a partiion using the live cd12:23
ccookeand they're always running behind, since they have to reverse engineer things12:24
Ngmorphix: even if that happens the impact is greatly reduced because people don't log in as root12:24
sdaserverhow does one become root using the gnome terminal?12:24
morphixyeh thats true12:24
Jowi!tell sdaserver about sudo12:24
morphixbut there would still be a way around things12:24
morphixas much things12:24
morphixmost*12:24
soulslayer2and, in folder media doesnt appear the storage media12:24
JackJim trying to install grub, and im using the live cd, and it wont let me mount my partition12:24
soulslayer2no disks, no usb mem \, no nothing12:25
zool2005mcphail, I've found a script for shredder and inserted it into ....nautilus scripts, what now?12:25
soulslayer2to hard for me12:25
soulslayer2to hard for me12:25
soulslayer2i cant compile and i cant acces my pen drive12:25
JackJdisk manager reads my disks as innaccessiable in live cd12:26
soulslayer2i have a lot to learn12:26
Ngmorphix: true, but there will be many people on many different distros - we have LUA *and* heterogeny on our side ;)12:26
Ber"""Will never happen until linux has a large enough userbase to get all games released on it.""  os when linux gorves bigger it is posseble+????12:26
morphixlol12:26
morphixcompared to windows total unsecure system12:26
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soulslayer2guys, is there any wiki page that explain how to use pen drives12:27
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soulslayer2and is there any wiki about compiling???12:27
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CanYouHelpMePlzsoulslayer2: plugging it in doesnt work?12:27
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morphixBer: there has to be enuf of us on linux wanting to play games ON LINUX for the creators to decide to make a linux based game.. they are thinking of where they can make money..12:27
JackJcan someone please help me out here, im trying to reinstall grub from live cd, but it wont let me mount my drives12:27
soulslayer2nope, doesnt work12:27
CanYouHelpMePlzsoulslayer2: odd, my ipod nano, flash memory card, usb pen drive, and samsung mp3 player all work12:28
morphixif i can find where i put cedega.. i will install it.12:28
Deterministmorphix, as i see it, if a guy can write a virus to use an exploit he found, he can also write a fix. with windows he cant. with linux he can. most days i would tend to think a guy would favour fixing a problem and getting credit for it rather than writing a virus to cause damage12:28
Beri think so in the future  will inux be the right choose to everyone!! freedom to the people but for now i stick to windows , i have no hard feelings caz i just want to play, but i like linux alot12:28
CanYouHelpMePlzDeterminist: thats a great point!12:28
Jowimorphix: maybe we should release a distro that open up all ports, with no firewall, root password activated (password "root") or all commands can be run as user and we market it as Windows compatible...?12:28
appSeveas, I installed your mirrors with custom section, but no skype with apt-cache search?12:28
soulslayer2the error is: mount point none doesnt exist12:28
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morphixlol me to Ber.. except.. i have linux installed on a removabe usb hdd.. and when i wanna play games.. i just boot windows back up :)12:29
Berin time.... you can change the world on one day// mattias r12:29
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DeterministCanYouHelpMePlz, thanks.12:29
JackJis their anyone here who can please help me with the mounting disks in the live cd?12:29
zool2005can anyone tell me how to use a script I have inserted into /nautilus scripts please?12:29
morphixJowi, LOL bugger that.. i prefer the cleaner, secure linux :)12:30
Deterministit just makes sense to me that people would drop their anarchistic way of thinking if they really felt they could make a difference. that is not the case when a bunch of millionairs in their ivory towers control how we use computers.12:30
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Jowimorphix: coward. lol12:30
Berbut i gonna use firefox, and i know more users start to do that (windows user12:30
Berso step by step12:31
Berbut it relly need  to be more kompatible12:31
JackJis their anyone here who can please help me with the mounting disks in the live cd?12:31
Seveasapp, skype is in extras, not in custom12:31
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morphixJackJ, whats the problem?12:31
Berso hold out you linux people out there12:31
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Bersoon the  you have master the world12:31
teroednii12:32
JackJmorphix: Im trying to reinstall grub, cause i installed windows on another partition and it fucks the boot loader, anyway, im on the live cd trying to install it, and it wont let me mount my drives12:32
morphixwhat exactly does it say?? (like an error??)12:32
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JackJi go to system < admin < disks and it says inaccessiable12:33
Berbut even if windows is shit , people like me dont care if  we must downgrade (only in games) to linux, but atleast i have tryed to konvince them to convert to linux .12:33
morphixBer: how is going from windows to linux DOWNGRADING??12:33
morphixlinux > windows12:33
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JackJregualar ubuntu reads the drives no problem, but it cant read them on live cd12:34
JackJand i need that to install grub12:34
Ber"care if  we must downgrade (only in games)"   games only12:34
Bereverything else is better12:34
sdaserveri still can't figure out root12:34
Berlinux is better on everything, exept Games12:34
Bercaz of the companys that makes them12:34
morphixsdaserver, to login as root in terminal do, su12:34
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JackJmorphix: have any ideas?12:35
seliniummorphix, for games windows>linux  only because that all gamers have windows machines, will will soon start seeing great linux game releases hopefully!12:35
Jowisdaserver: root is not active as such. to get a "root" terminal, type "sudo -i" and type in your user password.12:35
Berin time i will convert12:35
SillyZIve yet to find anything I cant do in windows, in linux, and Im an amateur radio operator to boot12:35
CanYouHelpMePlzSillyZ: like ham radio?12:35
morphixselinium, yeh thats the ONLY good thing about windows.. well maybe windows's easability.. but THATS IT12:35
seliniumping ajmitch...12:35
SillyZconvert now, or fall forever, you shall never arise -- riddick12:35
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SillyZCanYouHelpMePlz, aye like HAM Radio12:36
sdaserverjowi: thanks12:36
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CanYouHelpMePlzSillyZ: i see, how is that?12:36
seliniummorphix, I am an old M$ user, I haven't used it since I discovered Ubuntu! Long live the revolution! :D12:36
soulslayer2What happen if i use apt-get linux-source-2.6.....??????????????12:36
Jowisdaserver: all is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:36
SillyZCanYouHelpMePlz, love it, matter of fact ran into another 'ham' in here the other night, Jared was his name12:36
CanYouHelpMePlzSillyZ: i see, how does it work you just switch freq's and ask if anyone is around12:36
soulslayer2that will give me the kernel source??12:36
soulslayer2??12:37
Ber""selinium morphix, I am an old M$ user, I haven't used it since I discovered Ubuntu! Long live the revolutio"" you have right and  understand me, if you dont care about games linux is mutch better12:37
Beri think12:37
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dukebodyi have problems when redirecting azureus or my ftp server through NAT does anybody know how to check linux isn't blocking connections instead of my router?12:37
SillyZCanYouHelpMePlz, all depends on what your trying to accomplish, a contest, an award, general rag-chewing, storm spotting, hurricane nets, etc, etc12:37
CanYouHelpMePlzSillyZ: can you do it on the pc? or not12:38
Jowisoulslayer2: yeah, it will be in a tar.gz package in /usr/src12:38
soulslayer2somebody knows???12:38
Berkompetision is what making linux better12:38
SillyZyes, there are several applications in linux that allow for 'rig' control , grig is one for example12:38
soulslayer2jowi: and then i use tar, and... can i compile after uncompress12:38
SillyZwww.N9NU.net has a complete list of stuff, good guy too, know him from #mandrake12:38
CanYouHelpMePlzSillyZ: ill have to get one, would i be able to talk to other ham users? i have a microphone and all that jazz :-)12:39
Berbuy everyone and good luck12:39
SillyZCanYouHelpMePlz, join #sillyz please12:39
Berthanks for all help12:39
Jowisoulslayer2: if you want to compile your own kernel, yes.12:39
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sdaserverok, how about turning the ubuntu machine into a Internet gateway?12:39
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pinkisntwellgnome writes iso's, does it write cue's and bin's too?12:40
soulslayer2jowi: i just need to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/49155812:41
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writerHi all!12:41
writerHow kill process?12:41
soulslayer2the only thing i need is to compile, just for learning porpouses12:41
GenghisKhanwrite: kill <pid>12:41
writerI type kill <pid> and nothing12:42
Jowisoulslayer2: aren't you overcomplicating things? i think ndiswrapper is ready to be used in the repos12:42
Jowi!ndiswrapper12:42
uboturumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper12:42
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soulslayer2no, i understand i will use that method, but if in the future i need to compile something and this happens..../??????????????12:43
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soulslayer2jowi: im not overcomplicating i just want to learn the solution to this kind of problems, im very, very novice12:44
appIs there any way to change the Skype font? (Yes, yes, I will be asking at the Skype forums...)12:44
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Jowisoulslayer2: i have compiled tons of stuff (including custom kernel) but not my own kernel module, i think this ndiswrapper is an exceptional case.12:45
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Jowisoulslayer2: nothing standard about it12:45
spacey_kisoulslayer2, just follow the howto, thats the solution12:45
SweetestSavageCan anyone tell me why my sound just cut out randomly?12:46
SweetestSavageThe last application that used my sound device was "xfmedia", and it was used to play a video. I just closed it, and now sound doesn't work period.12:46
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mcphailapp: yes, wait a moment..12:46
Jowiapp: qtconfig12:47
soulslayer2ok, thanks everybody, ill try with the how to, wish me good luck maybe next time i could be talking using ubuntu. thanks.12:47
Myrttigood luck12:47
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mcphailapp: you need to create a file called $HOME/.qt/qtrc ...12:48
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JoeBlowdoes anyone know of a wiki for converting a ntfs partion to fat within ubuntu12:48
morphixi installed the 'SysTray' thingy.. to hopefully get xchat to minimize.. but erm.. how do i get it xchat to minimize there?12:48
morphixis doesnt seem to work12:48
spacey_kimorphix, there is an xchat applet12:49
spacey_kiif you have that one12:49
spacey_kijust double click on the icon12:49
mcphailapp: and enter something like: (first line) [General] 12:49
sdaserveranyone: how do you turn an ubuntu machine into an internet gateway?12:49
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mcphailapp: and on second line: font=Bitstream Vera Sans Mono,9,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,012:49
morphixhuh? spacey_ki12:49
morphixspacey_ki, what icon?12:50
JoeBlowdoes anyone know of a wiki for converting a ntfs partion to fat within ubuntu12:50
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mcphailapp: (obviously change the font to your preference)12:50
Jowiapp: qtconfig is way easier12:50
spacey_kimorphix, you wanted xchat to "minimalize" to system tray right?12:50
morphixspacey_ki, yes12:50
spacey_kiand you installed xchat-systray?12:50
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morphixapparently so12:51
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spacey_kimorphix, did you load the plugin?12:51
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morphixplugin??12:51
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spacey_kihmm12:51
ndlovuhi all. I got a question from somebody who wants to install thin clients in a community centre. how good is ubuntu in a thin client environment?12:52
spacey_kinot sure if thats needed12:52
spacey_kii have it myself at least12:52
spacey_kimorphix, simple restart of xchat didn't help?12:52
morphixerr dunno i'm about to restart.12:52
morphix'sec12:52
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morphixerm..12:52
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morphixcome up with systray config corrupted.. now i am in a dialog.. having to reconfigure it all12:53
Jowisdaserver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection12:53
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twitchhello?12:54
Jowihi twitch12:54
SweetestSavageCan anyone tell me why my sound just cut out randomly?12:54
morphixGRR12:54
SweetestSavageThe last application that used my sound device was "xfmedia", and it was used to play a video. I just closed it, and now sound doesn't work period.12:54
morphixi set the settings12:54
morphixbut it still wont minimize12:54
SeveasSweetestSavage, lsof /dev/dsp12:54
twitchcan anyone tell me where the meta file for GNOME bit torrent is? im using a live cd of 5.0412:54
JoeBlowis their anyway to change the format of a ntfs partition in linux?12:54
SillyZhave a good one yall12:54
SillyZnite12:54
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SweetestSavageSeveas,  WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev12:55
SweetestSavage      Output information may be incomplete.12:55
apokryphosjoe_alf: yes, format it to something else12:55
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apokryphosSweetestSavage: use sudo12:55
SeveasJoeBlow, bot without losing data12:55
SweetestSavageOh.. whoops.12:55
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SweetestSavageYeah I knew that.. *slaps self*12:55
JoeBlowSeveas: thats ok12:55
JoeBlowSeveas: its a blank drive12:55
SeveasJoeBlow, mkfs12:55
twitchbit torrent? meta file? anyone?12:55
JoeBlowSeveas: how do i do it12:55
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Seveastwitch, what do you mean with bittorent metafile?12:55
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apokryphosJoeBlow: gparted12:55
SeveasJoeBlow, mkfs -t the_type_you_want /dev/yourdisk12:55
SweetestSavageSeveas, alright.. I did that. Nothing.. happened though. What result am I expecting?12:55
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morphixi give up.12:56
apokryphosSweetestSavage: how about sudo lsof /deb/dsp* /dev/snd* ?12:56
JoeBlowSeveas: so mkfs -t fat32 /dev/hdb612:56
appI am running qtconfig to change Skype font. But I don't get it. The default font in qtconfig is  already minuscule, but Skype fonts are too big??12:56
SeveasJoeBlow, that should work12:56
mrkoje_hello hello!12:57
SweetestSavageapokryphos, status error on /deb/dsp*, no such file or directory.12:57
apokryphosSweetestSavage: *dev12:57
apokryphoshi mrkoje12:57
twitchbit torrent comes up with a file veiwer and asks me to find and open a meta file12:57
SweetestSavageapokryphos.. oh man =/ It totally shows that it's 5am. Sorry, I should have corrected that one myself x.O12:57
apokryphos=)12:58
SweetestSavageapokryphos, still nothing =/12:58
twitch"open location for BitTorrent meta file".....? what do i do12:58
apokryphosvery weird12:58
appHey, qtconfig did work, it was just very confusing...12:58
JoeBlowSeveas:mkfs.fat32: No such file or directory12:58
appThanks Jowi and others....12:58
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SweetestSavageapokryphos, yeah.. I don't know why but my sound just.. stopped working. However, my input device (microphone) works just fine.12:59
apokryphosJoeBlow: vfat12:59
apokryphosSweetestSavage: wouldn't be so surprising as they'd use different /dev entries. Still, if the sound device was busy you'd think that command would show it.12:59
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SweetestSavageapokryphos, I managed to figure it out o_o12:59
apokryphosoh?01:00
SweetestSavageapokryphos, the PCM volume setting on my OSS device was at zero.. I turned it up and it's back.. I don't even know how that happened.01:00
apokryphosheh01:00
Jowiapp: you're welcome01:00
twitchso i guess noone can help me01:00
Jowitwitch: never seen that before01:00
JoeBlowapokryphos: it says mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)01:01
JoeBlow , but now it wont let me mount the drive, and it still says in administration < disks, ntfs01:01
SweetestSavageapokryphos, what's the difference between ALSA and OSS? (Alsa is referred to as a "mixer" in the volume control..)01:01
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twitchits a live disk would anyone be able to tell me where the bittorrent directory is and ill just look through there01:01
Jowitwitch: maybe take a screenshot and post it on the pastebin01:01
Jowi!pastebin01:01
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:01
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apokryphosJoeBlow: what's the exact command you're entering?01:01
twitchpaste bin?01:01
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morphixi just installed openbox.. how do i logout of gnome and login to openbox??01:02
allison_1984guys, do you think its normal that my cd drive locks up when a cd is in, and I can only open the drive by going the long way (right click on cd rom icon and eject) ?....mood (hmmmm...)01:02
SweetestSavageapokryphos, even though I managed to get sound to work.. it's really.. odd. Like, one of the sides is really low volume.. and it.. echoes o_O01:02
apokryphosSweetestSavage: a lot of things :D. Google can help 8)01:02
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JoeBlowapokryphos: mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda101:02
twitchwhere is the paste bin?01:02
Jowimorphix: logout of gnome. openbox should be in the session list in gdm01:02
morphixok i hope so01:03
morphixbrb.01:03
Jowimorphix: you might need to ... ehhh.... c u01:03
allison_1984Twitch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:03
apokryphosSweetestSavage: look through alsamixer and check the settings out; see if anything's sed odd there01:03
apokryphosJoeBlow: with sudo, right? And you get no errors?01:03
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JoeBlowapokryphos: right with sudo, and it says only mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)01:04
JoeBlow after i do it01:04
twitchok i posted a screenshot on paste bin01:04
Mabus06allison_1984, I don't know if that's how it's supposed to work, but my cdrom does the same sometimes01:05
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Jowitwitch: give us the link to the page please01:05
morphixerm..01:05
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twitchhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i664101:05
morphixi'm in openbox.. but i cant do anything01:05
SweetestSavageapokryphos, where can I view the settings?01:05
morphixexcept right click web browser and terminal (i'm in irssi-text in terminal)01:05
apokryphosJoeBlow: very weird; perhaps consider using gparted.01:05
morphixi click obconf... and nothing happens01:05
apokryphosSweetestSavage: in terminal: alsamixer01:05
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SweetestSavageapokryphos, oops.. sorry, I figured it out.. silly XMMS.. it had a nasty plugin enabled.01:06
pjpeter2005hi can anyone help me i have  a serial mouse on my com port and it is not working in ubuntu01:06
Jowitwitch: so, let me get this straight. you clicked on a .torrent file in firefox and that window popped up?01:06
allison_1984Mabus06: alright then, I thought I was the only one.....01:06
JoeBlowapokryphos: ok , can i find that in synaptic01:06
apokryphosSweetestSavage: using xmms? Ah, of course that is the bug ;-)01:06
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apokryphosJoeBlow: yes; it might be installed on ubuntu by default, I think.01:06
twitchno i went to applications and clicked on GNOME bit torrent and that came up01:06
twitchim tryin to open bit torrent to get a file01:06
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twitchi have to download it01:07
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SweetestSavageapokryphos, I like XMMS >_> I'd use amaroK, but I'm running GNOME, and I don't like KDE01:07
JoeBlowapokryphos: now it wont even let me mount the drive01:07
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Jowitwitch: oh. ok. i think that the app ask for the location of the bittorrent files you want to *host*, not download01:07
apokryphosSweetestSavage: there's still better alternatives; anything's better than xmms :P01:07
SweetestSavageapokryphos, how so? I haven't heard of anything better =P01:07
apokryphosSweetestSavage: still, bit of a shame you shouldn't use an application because you don't like its DE01:07
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apokryphosSweetestSavage: beep, rhythmbox01:07
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twitchbut how do i cancel that and open the app01:07
SweetestSavageapokryphos, well, as far as I know it won't work o.O01:08
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apokryphosJoeBlow: what are you using to mount it? Does sudo fdisk -l  definitely suggest it's still ntfs?01:08
SweetestSavageapokryphos, that is, running under GNOME01:08
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apokryphosSweetestSavage: no! Any kde app runs under gnome :)01:08
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SweetestSavageapokryphos, oh really? Hmm =) So what would you recommend then?01:08
SweetestSavageapokryphos, just a silly assumption I guess01:08
pjpeter2005can some help me i need to get my mouse to work01:08
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JoeBlowapokryphos: the admin tools disk01:08
apokryphosSweetestSavage: personally I'd only ever use JuK or amaroK01:08
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SweetestSavageapokryphos, the reason I use XMMS is because it's like winAMP. I'll check out amaroK01:09
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gookiehi! how do I add drop shadows to my windows and dialog boxes? i've seen cool screenshots with those features. thx01:09
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apokryphosSweetestSavage: everyone does, originally. Takes some time to get over that hurdle of "it's OK to use things that aren't like XMMS when they're infinitely better" :P01:10
morphix:/01:10
twitch?01:10
morphixcan someone help plz?01:10
mrkoje_anyone try using Hamachi?01:10
apokryphosgookie: you'd have to get into composite, to have the real ones.  /msg ubotu composite01:10
mrkoje_Its a great program..01:10
SweetestSavageapokryphos, that's why I switched from Windows to Linux ;)01:10
apokryphosmrkoje_: what's it for?01:10
morphixmrkoje_: if u mean hamachi the 'virtual network'?01:11
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pjpeter2005can someone help me with a mouse problem01:11
Jowitwitch: when you click on a torrent file on the web you will get a question if you want to save the file or run it. chose run with gnome-btdownload and the download of the torrent will start01:11
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apokryphosSweetestSavage: there's a Kubuntu repository with the very latest version, if you want it, too.01:12
apokryphos!amarok 1.3.701:12
ubotuamarok 1.3.7 is probably at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php01:12
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twitchi dont have the link on the net01:12
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gookieapokryphos: thx01:12
twitchi have to search for it01:12
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brrrthello01:12
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JoeBlowgparted doesnt read all my drives, whats with that?01:13
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Jowitwitch: if you have saved the .torrent to disk already you use the "Open location for bittorrent meta file" dialog to choose it.01:13
brrrtis there an easy way to automatically umount and eject CD/DVD's when i press the button on the drive?01:13
SweetestSavageapokryphos, I like to download it using synaptic or apt-get since I'm running the 64-bit version01:13
apokryphosSweetestSavage: yup -- it's a repository, so you can. :)01:14
aftertafJoeBlow:  it only shows one physical drive at a time, have you changed the drive to see if you can see the other?01:14
twitchok ill find the file on irc channels01:14
apokryphos(there are amd64 packs made, too)01:14
twitchthanx tho01:14
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JowiJoeBlow: not even on the top-right corner?01:14
pjpeter2005can any help with a mouse problem please01:14
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JoeBlowJowi: oh, i found it, thanks01:15
JowiJoeBlow: :)01:15
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aftertaf:)01:15
Jowipjpeter2005: be precise01:15
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pjpeter2005i have a serial mose on com port and it does not move in ubuntu01:16
aftertafbrrrt:  right-click icon > eject. doesnt that work?01:16
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GenghisKhanpjpeter2005: configure xorg.conf01:16
brrrtaftertaf: sure that works, but for what di i have an drivebutton then?01:17
mrkoje_pjpeter2005,  try   cat /dev/mouse01:17
Jowipjpeter2005: i think the com port must be specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:17
aftertafpjpeter2005:  reconfigure c so it uses it...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then choose your mouse on ttys0 (i think)01:17
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aftertafbrrrt:  when mounted, you cant eject it.01:17
mrkoje_pjpeter2005,  if you get any output then it at least kind of works01:17
GenghisKhanmrkoje_: afaik, serial mouse is on /dev/ttyS0, not /dev/mouse01:17
brrrtaftertaf: i thought there may be a possibilitiy to recognise when i press the drive button and execute an umount+eject commend at this event01:18
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appBTW, it looks like my sound mostly works ok. The problems I had were probably related to hibernating the machine. I have to monitor the situation. Still, I have troubles with the microphone sound quality, which is much worse than in Windows.01:18
aftertafbrrrt:  no idea ... ;)01:18
mrkoje_GenghisKhan,  thanks01:18
brrrtk, thx01:18
JoeBlowfor some reson it wont let me mount 2 of my drives, whats the command for that in terminal?01:19
GenghisKhanbrrrt: i think it's possible (mandrake did it), but it isn't worth01:19
allison_1984brrrt: ask mrkoje  , he told me something about configuring /etc/fstab01:19
JoeBlowfor some reson it wont let me mount 2 of my drives, whats the command for that in terminal?01:19
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GenghisKhanJoeBlow: mount /dev/*** /mountpoint01:20
aftertafapp:  tried hunting through your sound mixer properties? is it too quiet, or bad quality?01:20
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aftertaf!tell JoeBlow about mount01:20
SweetestSavageapokryphos, I like amaroK quite a bit =) Thanks for the suggestion, it's quite nice to look at.01:20
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brrrtGenghisKhan: "but it isn't worth" its not a problem for ME but my GF refuses to switch to linux until this is possible ;)01:20
gentoofansubuntu01:20
SweetestSavageapokryphos, the only thing I don't like is how much it lags when you switch songs01:21
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GenghisKhanbrrrt: when i used mandrake it had a supermount thingie that did that01:21
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Pygifreaky: ping ping01:21
lowman62brrrt: do what i did...format, install...anyways...she never will learn not using ;)01:21
aftertafbrrrt:  upgrade your GF's firmware ;)01:21
Seveasgentoofans, please stick to english in here01:21
brrrtLOL01:21
lowman62my wife loves ubuntu...she hates linux...get it?01:22
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aftertafhehe :)01:22
Jowibrrrt: my wife uses ubuntu on her laptop. loves it (and she is NO tech person)01:22
Seveaslowman62, lol01:22
Myrttithat reminds me of running my backup scripts01:22
brrrtwell, i'll try to checkout the supermount thingie though... :)01:23
Jowibrrrt: just put them in fstab so they mount at each boot.01:23
Jowi!fstab01:23
ubotuthe /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.01:23
brrrtah01:24
BigKahunaAnybody using iTunes with crossover office?01:24
GenghisKhanbrrrt: i remember that in mdk 9.1 it sucked. it got stucked often01:24
brrrtmhm01:24
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pjpeter2005i tried sudo  and it did not work01:25
lowman62hey that script rocks!01:25
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lowman62:) disks are now mounted permanently yeah!!01:26
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Pygilowman: hehe :)01:26
brrrtyes looks quite useful !!01:26
lowman62brrrt: worked like a charm on breezy01:26
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tyler_may i know why i CANNOT cut n paste with my mouse in my newly installed slack!!???01:27
Jowityler_: if you ask in #slackware maybe :)01:27
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Pygityler: huh, this is not slackware :P you installed gdm and such mosuey thingies?01:28
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lowman62i have ran ubuntu now for 68 days as trial..very few problems to say the least..this machine has not required rebooting once since install other than restarting x...this rocks!01:30
writerhow kill proces01:30
writeri write in root terminal #kill 7846  and proces 7846 is life!01:30
Seveaswriter, try kill -901:30
GenghisKhanwriter: kill -9 784601:30
writerGenghisKhan: Thanks, i try it01:31
Jowilowman62: then it's time to install a new kernel! hehe01:31
lowman62Jowi: if it aint broken I aint fixin it...I run mandrake on another machine 7.0 version no updates cuz it works with that machine for some reason so i leave it be01:32
GenghisKhanlowman62: mdk 7.0 software is very outdated01:32
Jowilowman62: stop being so resonable01:32
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lowman62i might stick ubuntu on it though ...hmmm I feeling froggy01:33
Seveaslowman62, but it is broken, there are security updates..01:33
wertyneed help with gpm...01:33
lowman62nah! i am not concerned with security on that machine...it has not internet access01:33
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JoeBlowi heard their is a program for linux where u can run windows in a window on the desktop, anyone heard of it?01:34
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wertyplz help01:34
PygiJoeBlow: qemu01:34
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lowman62JoeBlow it is called wine01:34
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JoeBlowPygi: thats it, thanks01:34
Mabus06that isn't how I'd describe wine01:34
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JoeBlowi was tlaking about qemu01:34
PygiJoeBlow: yw01:34
lowman62oh sorry you mean windows..ya hold on i know the name of it01:34
Pygilowman: QEMU :P01:34
lowman62that's it01:34
JoeBlowPygi got you beat01:35
JoeBlowlol01:35
JoeBlowanyone used it?01:35
albackerHi01:35
lowman62<--has a mem leak this morning :P01:35
frogzooI installed a few packages and now Ubuntu won't boot - pkgs were snort, honeyd, & nessus - any ideas? kind of hard to trace where boot's failing01:35
NgI've only used qemu to run linux on windows ;)01:35
PygiJoeBlow: yup :P Why I got beaten ? :P01:35
Mabus06Nope, I use wine.01:35
Ngbut it seemed to work ok01:35
tyler_must i install/sompile tarballs as root always?01:35
NgI would think that for anything but games it'd be ok, if a bit slow and memory hungry01:35
JoeBlowPygi: u beat him to the answer lol01:35
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Mabus06For games use wine.01:35
PygiJoe: ah :P01:35
Jowityler_: on Slackware or Ubuntu?01:35
GenghisKhanNg: you can't run games on qemu, it won't do 3d01:36
PygiMabus: no, for games use cvsCedega :)01:36
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JoeBlowoh rellay?01:36
JoeBlowdamn01:36
NgGenghisKhan: I said "for anything but games" :)01:36
tyler_Jowi, slax...01:36
JoeBlowi was planning on using it for games01:36
Seveastyler_, ask in #slckware01:36
PygiJoeBlow: use cvsCedega for that01:36
Jowityler_: you should go to a slax channel01:36
tyler_i will love ubuntu but mi pc is 233mhjz01:36
JoeBlowis it free?01:36
tyler_:(01:36
Mabus06Pygi, I've never used cedega, what's different?01:36
Pygityler, I answered you :P01:36
GenghisKhanNg: sorry, i misread :-)01:36
lowman62i use wine to run adobe photoshop on ubuntu runs perfect01:36
PygiJoeblow: CVS edition is free...01:36
JoeBlowalright cool01:36
PygiMabus: well, it's intented for games :)01:36
GenghisKhanMabus06: cedega has better d3d support01:36
JoeBlowand can i run them off a ntfs partition01:36
PygiJoeBlow: just a second, I'll give you a link01:36
Pygino , you cant use ntfs partition01:37
LathropWellsCedega is nearly pain free to install and add other apps/games01:37
JoeBlowPygi: alright01:37
frogzoowhen my lappie tries to boot - it says can't find minix module & craps out - what would be loading minix though?01:37
Pygijoeblow: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 ..........there :)01:37
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JoeBlowive been trying to create a vfat partition to put my games on, but after i format the drives, it wont ever let me mount them01:37
LathropWellsYou can keep cedegacvs - 5 dollars a month is worth the time savings01:37
Pygifrogzoo: this is not a minix channel  :/01:37
frogzooPygi: wise guy huh?01:38
frogzoominix is a file system01:38
Pygifrogzoo: no, I am not wise :)01:38
JowiJoeBlow: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hd?? /media/mountpoint" doesn't work01:38
Jowi?01:38
Mabus06Pygi, better to be considered a smartass than a dumbass.01:38
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PygiMabus: huh :/01:39
JoeBlowJowi: I used gparted01:39
lowman62Mabus06: so true LOL :P01:39
LathropWells!ntfs01:39
ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK01:39
Mabus06Use tell, LathropWells01:39
Mabus06Us using the lower resolutions would appreciate it... lol01:39
JowiJoeBlow: in gparted you must "Apply" the changes. then quit gparted and try01:39
fek271 packages upgraded, 13532 newly installed, 67 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:40
LathropWells!tell mabus thank you01:40
fekwtf?01:40
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Mabus06!tell LathropWells about tell01:40
Mabus06lol @ fek01:41
LathropWells!tell mabus i am tired01:41
twitch101is there a program that can burn isos or any other file on the 5.04 live cd?01:41
Jowi!tell Mabus06 about resolution01:41
fekUnpacking replacement gvlc ...01:41
fekdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gvlc_0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):01:41
PygiLathrop: Do not abuse ubotu please01:41
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fek trying to overwrite `/usr/share/applications/gvlc.desktop', which is also in package vlc01:41
fekgrrr01:41
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LathropWells!botsnack01:41
ubotu:)01:41
Pygitwich: gnome baker or somethin'01:41
Pygino ,do not abuse ubotu01:41
Mabus06Jowi, I'm using my second monitor, it's a TV. I need the low resolution to read text.01:41
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MaX_sT91Hola buenas01:41
LathropWellsis he on a diet?01:41
twitch101how do i run its not in apps01:41
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MaX_sT91Lol01:42
JowiMabus06: so true.01:42
LathropWells!es01:42
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:42
twitch101comand for running "gnome baker"?01:42
Pygihuh, well install it first twitch01:42
lowman62LOL01:42
twitch101u said it was on the live cd01:43
Pygilowman: everything's funny to you, isn't it? :)01:43
frogzoocan anyone point a reasonably clued linux user to how to debug a lappie failing to boot - loads kernel & then fails before mounting file systems01:43
Jowitwitch101: type in the first few letters and press <tab> twice for all apps starting with those letters.01:43
Pygitwitch: ah :P01:43
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lowman62Well having a sense of humor is the spice of life. :P01:44
twitch101so is chile peppers....01:44
Pygifrogzoo: what seems to be the exact problem? have you try scanning/fixing disc?01:44
Mabus06stop getting me hungry...01:44
Jowifrogzoo: an error message would be useful01:44
Mabus06Pygi, if he knew the exact problem, he'd probably be fixing it. ;-)01:44
lowman62i would have to take prilosec with that LOL01:44
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frogzooPygi: from the grub boot screen, is says loading modules, then craps out saying couldn't load minix module - can't see why it would need it though, never have b401:45
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twitch101well umm...im tryin to find the downloado n ubuntu cuz i cant use the synaptic thing01:45
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Mabus06twitch101, can't use synaptic, why?01:46
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Jowifrogzoo: are you using a custom kernel?01:47
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twitch101live cd with no hard drive01:47
twitch101only external and im about to drop that into my xbox01:47
Pygifrogzoo: just a sec please, I'll take a look at it now01:48
Mabus06Was anyone chatting in here for new years? Heh.01:48
frogzooJowi: nope stock 686 - & I've tried the stock 386 too - I think something I installed has munged the init scripts, but dunno what01:48
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Whistlerhello01:49
Whistleris there any video converting app which can resize the resoliution and format of the video?01:49
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Pygifrogzoo: do you have that module ?01:49
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Pygimaybe it fails because it doesnt exist...01:50
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Jowifrogzoo: ok. is minix listed in /etc/modules? do you have a minix reference in /etc/fstab?01:50
frogzooPygi: nope - that's why it's failing - but I don't use a minix file system - so it's wierd it would ask 4 it01:50
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frogzooJowi: 1/2 sec I'll check01:50
JoeBlowyea for some reason it wont let me mount certain partitions01:50
Jowifrogzoo: also look for minix in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:50
Pygifrogzoo: do as Jowi told you.... look at /boot/grub/menu.lst01:51
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Jaredhello01:52
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Whistleri wanna resize video clip. Is there any apps for that?01:52
frogzoono minix in any of those files - qsn - is minix related to the suspend function in any way?01:52
Jowifrogzoo, Pygi: could it be the initrd that is messed up?01:52
JoeBlowhas anyone had a problem where u cant mount a partition01:52
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frogzooJowi: I've tried 2 kernels, so I guess init is good01:53
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albackerconfigure: error: Package requirements (libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.1 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met.01:53
Jowifrogzoo: do both of them use the same initrd?01:53
Jaredi am about to get windows xp and i'm going to do a dual boot........how would i do it?01:53
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PygiJowi: maybe some remains from old installation or somethn'? have you ever had that FS?01:53
frogzooJowi: I though init was part of the kernel?01:54
onkarshindeJared: Do you have XP installed already?01:54
Jaredno......01:54
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spottedSalve01:54
spottedHello01:54
Jowifrogzoo: initrd loads modules into RAM before the real kernel takes over i think01:54
PygiJared:huh, win will erase the mbr :/01:54
spottedCan anyone pls tell me how to add a kernel to the original ubuntu cd?01:54
onkarshindeJared: Install XP first, keep some partition for Ubuntu (about 10 GB) and then install Ubuntu01:54
onkarshindespotted: why do you want to do that?01:55
Jaredwould i need to wipe out my harddrive then partition it for windows then after i install windows then install ubuntu01:55
Pygispotted: there is a kernel on the cd :/ or you want a custom one?01:55
Jaredlike that...............how would the dual boot work01:55
Jared?01:55
PygiJared: exactly01:55
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spottedI have got a friend of mine with a software raid, so I need to learn how to add a kernel to the cd with the needed patch01:55
spottedPygi, I need to add a custom one because he needs a patch for raid 001:55
frogzooJowi: yep, but that's part of /boot/initrd.img - -so it's different with each kernel01:55
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spottedPygi, mandrive has the patch in, ubuntu does not.01:55
onkarshindeJared: No need to wipe out entire hard disk if you already have more than two partitions. Ubuntu takes care of dual boot01:55
Whistleri wanna resize video clip. Is there any apps for that?01:56
Jowifrogzoo: you got a kernel.stable option in grub to choose?01:56
Pygispotted: huh :/01:56
spottedPygi, can you help me?01:56
JoeBlowhow do i know what my local mount folder is?01:56
PygiJoeBlow: well, its probably "/"01:56
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GenghisKhanWhistler: transcode01:57
Jaredi need to add a partition......i don't know if my whole hdda is ubuntu or what..ugh it will stink if it is01:57
Pygispotted: no, never done it on install cd, but you can change in on live cd  I think01:57
frogzooJowi: pretty sure it's not a kernel prob - because I have 2 different kernels - both crap out somewhere in /scripts/local-mounts01:57
Jowifrogzoo: ok. hmm01:57
WhistlerGenghisKhan does it have gui ?01:57
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GenghisKhanWhisler: no, maybe there are frontends01:57
JoeBlowwhen i try to mount my ntfs drive it tells me01:58
JoeBlowsudo mount /dev/hda101:58
JoeBloweerr01:58
onkarshindeJared: Do you mean you already have Ubuntu installed?01:58
JoeBlowmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,01:58
JoeBlow       missing codepage or other error01:58
JoeBlow       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:58
JoeBlow       dmesg | tail  or so01:58
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Jowifrogzoo: so have a look at the scrips in /etc/init.d if you got a minix script in there, remove its executable bit.01:58
frogzoojared if you only have 2 other partitions, I'd recommend swap & /home - /home is essential when it's time to upgrade/reinstall01:58
onkarshindeWhistler: dvdrip is GUI for transcode, not sure it can edit videos01:58
WhistlerGenghisKhan thanks i found the gui01:58
apokryphosJoeBlow: do not paste in here.01:58
Whistlergtranscode will do just fine for me01:59
JoeBlowapokryphos: oh ok, sorry01:59
frogzooJowi: yar, I think I just need to poke around a bit - thx for the help guys :)01:59
Jowifrogzoo: np01:59
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Pygifrogzoo: where does it says that it fails? any specific partition?01:59
JoeBlowwell can someone help me with my messed up drive01:59
Pygi!patience01:59
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.01:59
JoeBlowits just one partition, the rest of the drive works01:59
frogzooPygi: it fails somewhere in the rcS scripts - b4 any fsystems are mounted01:59
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JoeBlowPygi: uhmm, its an ntfs partition sda101:59
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onkarshindeWhistler: how about this? http://www.diva-project.org/wiki/Main_Page Will have to install manually02:00
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Jaredi only have the partitions for ubuntu02:00
Pygifrogzoo: hm, try to disable script by script and see which one makes troubles?02:00
JoeBlowif i format this partition into a new format, it still goes back to ntfs, and wont let me mount it02:00
SweetestSavageapokryphos, there's an annoying beep that amaroK makes when switching tracks, any way to remove this?02:01
Pygiubotu tell JoeBlow about ntfs02:01
frogzooPygi: yar, I'll take a poke about, thx pygi02:01
onkarshindeJared: May I please know reason for installing XP?02:01
apokryphosSweetestSavage: huh? Never heard of that. What engine are you using?02:01
JoeBlowPygi: ive dont the ubuntu wiki, didnt work02:01
Pygifrogzoo: yw :)02:01
PygiJoeBlow: heh :/02:01
SweetestSavageapokryphos, GStreamer using.. osssink02:01
tommy harddisk performance is very slow. an ls takes the first time about 3 seconds. hdparm -t reports 53.16 MByte/s, so DMA is enabled, but now the machine hangs afterwards and i can't do anything. this is reproducible after a reboot. what could be wrong?02:01
PygiJoeBlow: if you want open a ssh server, and I'll help02:02
JoeBlowPygi: if u can tell me how to do it02:02
Jaredonkarshidne: i would like to have the versitility of both xp and ubuntu.....that shouldn't be a problem02:02
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apokryphosSweetestSavage: try using the xine engine -- I always do. Though I have no idea what that bleep is.02:03
PygiJoeBlow: well, first thing is to delete your partition, and format it afterwards02:03
Jowitom: sudo hdparm /dev/hd? to make sure using_dma is 102:03
pjpeter2005can anyone tell me the protcol for a com port mouse  and is it /dev/tts002:03
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tomJowi: it *IS* on02:03
Jowitom: which fs and what type of disk?02:03
onkarshindeJared: No problem at all. I dumped XP about 2 years back. Everybody has his own choice. By the way, I can't really help you as I don't know your situation completely. May be you could send a mail with complete details02:03
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tomJowi: ext302:04
tomJowi: what do you mean by type of disk?02:04
tomJowi: it's an internal IDE disk (/dev/hda)02:04
Jowitom: sata/ide02:04
Jowioh02:04
JoeBlowPygi: when i go to delete it, it tells me to unmount all partition higher then 5, but thats where i have my linux partition thats running, so i cant do that02:04
Jaredwell onkarshidne i like to do live stream with winamp and i like some webcam software that i use with xp so i would like both02:04
tomJowi: it worked okay before downgrading from dapper to breezy :P02:04
kraftwerk_I need to manually mount my ipod, how do I find out what /dev/foo to use?02:05
spottedAny information about remastering?02:05
Jowitom: have you tried to force check the fs ?02:05
spottedI just need to know some source for remastering debian/ubuntu basicly02:05
spottedubuntu the installation cd not the live cd02:05
SweetestSavageapokryphos, that removed it, thanks.02:05
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onkarshindekraftwerk_: if you have to other USB devices attached then use /dev/sda102:06
_mattHi!02:06
kraftwerk_thx!02:06
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onkarshindekraftwerk_: But I don't understand why you need to mount it manually.02:06
kraftwerk_Dapper02:06
Jaredcan i get ubuntu to make my usb external hdda be a slave drive?02:06
ibmnotebookhow to update GLIPC?02:06
ibmnotebook(need version 2.2 or 2.3...)02:06
tomJowi: no. how can i reboot in read-only mode to check the root fs?02:07
ibmnotebook(does glibc 2.2 or 2.3 run on ubuntu?02:07
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Jaredonkarshidne..do you know if i can make ubuntu reconize my usb external hdda as a slave drive?02:08
Jowitom: to force check it on next boot use "sudo touch /forcefsck"02:08
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onkarshindeJared: I think that will be default.02:09
Jaredi want my computer to boot from it though.......that is what i want to put winxp on........02:09
appOk, next problem. Sometimes accessing our Windows domain file servers work from Nautilus, but currently it just keeps reprompting for username/domain/password and gives no error messages whatsoever.02:09
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tomJowi: ok thanks. (it took about 5 seconds to touch the file...)02:09
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Jowitom: man fsck.ext3 will also give some hints :)02:10
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appI have yet to install command line smb tools, that the next thing in debuggin smb...02:10
onkarshindeJared: In that case you can add some lines to your /boot/grub/menu.lst to add a Win XP option.02:10
Steve|whats the difference between the ubuntu install and the ubuntu live02:10
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Steve|http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/releases/5.10/ <--- from that02:10
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onkarshindeSteve|: I don't think there is any difference02:11
Steve|so whats the point of having 2 different types..?02:11
onkarshindeSteve|: you can always do a diff between .list files on mirrors.02:11
bdexit02:12
onkarshindeSteve|: Live runs without installation. Directly from CD. Have you never heard of it?02:12
Steve|nope02:12
Steve|i'm new to the whole linux stuff02:12
Steve|i just heard ubuntu is win02:12
apokryphoshuhh?02:12
appI just must say that proving for our management that a bunch of computer hating business professionals with long experience on Windows can work with Linux is still going to be hard in 2006. Maybe 2007? Or maybe 2017? Or maybe never?02:12
Steve|win as in good02:13
lowman62Steve| : the live cd allows you to try out ubuntu before you install it02:13
JaredYAY I HAVE LIMEWIRE02:13
onkarshindeSteve|: Ok. A Live CD contains an OS in itself and runs directly from CD provided your computer can boot from CD. These CDs can be used to test OS02:13
Steve|yeah i get it, thanks02:13
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onkarshindeSteve|: There are loads of live CDs. AFAIK, Knoppix was the first to introduce the idea02:14
Steve|ah k02:14
snk00sjdoes anyone know howto create a new menubar (not based on the default one?)02:14
Steve|so live cd is not as big as the installation cd?02:14
Steve|or same size02:14
Steve|or bigger :|02:14
onkarshindeSteve|: Same size.02:15
apokryphosSteve|: live CD has no installation candidate. It installs nothing to the hard-drive -- relies solely on RAM and the CD02:15
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Steve|so say i like it02:15
Steve|i can just copy it over to the hdd?02:15
JowiSteve|: nope, you need an install cd for that02:15
tocahola02:15
Steve|oh :|02:15
apokryphosSteve|: unfortunately, currently you'd have to download+use teh install CD02:15
lowman62no you need to get the install cd..and you can order cds for free from shipit...I got mine yesterday02:15
Steve|so whats the advantage of a live cd, other than being able to boot it off the cd02:16
Steve|lowman62 - how long did it take for you?02:16
tocahay algun espaol por aqui?02:16
lowman62to try it out first before installing02:16
onkarshindeSteve|: In simple terms, the mechanism for running from CD is different from running from HD. So you can't just copy it to your HD02:16
apokryphosSteve|: that is the advantage.02:16
frogzooSteve|: only that you don't have to touch your HD to try ubuntu out02:16
lowman62Steve| : it took exactly 4 weeks02:16
vega-Steve|: first time for me took 6 weeks, second time 3 weeks02:16
JowiSteve|: to try before install. also good to salvage a broken system. perform checks on another system. aso.02:16
apokryphostoca: /j #ubuntu-es02:16
Jaredi go to download a song with limewire it says it needs more sources when i go to download it?what do i do02:16
onkarshindelowman62: are you on dialup? or did you use torrent?02:16
lowman62they sent me 5 sets and I gave them all away to my friends to try02:16
Steve|ah ok02:17
Steve|cool02:17
Steve|thanks guys02:17
apokryphosJared: try downloading a file that's more popular -- has more users in the  # column02:17
lowman62I am on a t1 pipe02:17
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Jaredi downloaded photograph by nickleback02:17
Jaredwhat do you mean by has more users in the #column02:17
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tocacomo em conecto alli?02:18
gepatinohi everyone02:18
apokryphos!es02:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:18
Steve|how big is ubuntu?02:18
apokryphosSteve|: default installation is 1.8 gigs02:19
JowiSteve|: standard install around 1.8GB but uses 3GB for installation02:19
frogzooSteve|: 10gigs would be a minimum for desktop use02:19
Steve|ah k02:19
Jared...okay its working02:19
gepatinoI think I have some usefull idea to improve package updates without internet connection02:19
gepatinowhere and how should I submit it?02:19
onkarshindegepatino: like what?02:19
Steve|well the ubuntu 5.10 install file says its 715mb... that sound right?02:19
irvinlet's hear it gepatino02:20
frogzooSteve|: it depends what pkgs u want to install02:20
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gepatinoonkarshinde, many people doesnt have a broadband connection available all the time02:20
JowiSteve|: yep. it's compressed on the cd.02:20
gepatinoonkarshinde, irvin (like me)02:20
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onkarshindeSteve|: If you are talking about ISO then I think that is correct.02:20
Whistlerso they can update using cd`s02:20
frogzooSteve|: I'd recommend 10gig for /usr & 2gig for /02:20
Steve|pkgs ?02:20
gepatinoonkarshinde, irvin and it would be great to have some offline updates02:21
onkarshindegepatino: I was one of those people before last months02:21
Whistlerif they dont have broadband connection02:21
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Steve|onkarshinde - yeah talking about the iso02:21
frogzooSteve|: after u've installed ubuntu - u can add additional packages at any time - just download02:21
irvingepatino, lookie here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NonBroadbandUsers02:21
Steve|could you describe those kind of packages for me02:21
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gepatinoI used to use deb-downloader, a bunch of perl scripts that allowed you to download packages in another machine02:21
irvingepatino, there's a script already in dapper to do that for you02:21
gepatinook02:21
irvin:-)02:22
frogzooSteve|: better if you try it out for yourself - the name of the pkg manager is 'synaptic'02:22
gepatinoI'd rather take a loog first02:22
Steve|ok02:22
gepatinoa look, sorry02:22
Steve|thanks02:22
lowman62Steve| : from a newbie point of view packages are additional software02:22
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Steve|oh i see02:22
onkarshindeSteve|: It is 617 M02:22
Steve|oh02:22
Steve|yep sorry, i was looking at the wrong file02:22
gepatinoirvin, the problem i had with those scripts was that the machine where you want to download the scripts should have perl installes02:23
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SweetestSavageQuestion: What exactly does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do compared to sudo apt-get update ?02:23
gepatinoirvin, and a cyberbar, you mostly find win machines w/o perl02:23
Steve|lowman62 - so how do I run windows applications/games/etc on a linux based system?02:23
WhistlerSweetestSavage sudo apt-get update just updates your sources list02:24
gepatinoirvin, so I thought it would be nice to have an ubuntu-to-go update system02:24
irvingepatino, i think the script uses wget to download the packages02:24
lowman62Steve| : I use a emulator called wine02:24
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gepatinoirvin, something like this:02:24
Whistlerand dist-upgrade does a system upgrade02:24
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Steve|is it efficient02:24
gerryxiaohello,all02:24
Steve|actually i mean02:24
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gepatinoirvin, you use synaptic, but instead of downloading files, you just create an update definition file02:24
Steve|how big of a difference is it when using wine than say just using that windows app on windows02:24
SweetestSavageWhistler, interesting, so if I was to do dist-upgrade.. would it upgrade my system from breezy to dapper?02:25
gepatinoirvin, then you submit it to a server02:25
gerryxiaowhat is ubuntu? any difference with other distros?02:25
lowman62Steve| : it works for me02:25
Steve|well like in speed02:25
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WhistlerSweetestSavage not yet, but generaly yes02:25
Jaredi like this limewire02:25
gepatinoirvin, the server gathers all the packages for you, creating a big package02:25
irvingepatino, it's part of synaptic, File/Generate package download script02:25
onkarshindeSteve|: It depends on what games you want to play. Talking about other apps, there is always some alternative in Ubuntu02:25
SweetestSavageWhistler, ah I see.. so when Dapper is ready, I can just do dist-upgrade.. and it will automatically upgrade my system to Dapper?02:25
Steve|ah ok02:25
gepatinoirvin, and then you download the packages from the website, w/o using wget02:25
lowman62Steve|: I really don't see any real difference...I mean I use wine for a fixed number of applications that I must use and it works perfectly02:25
irvingepatino, you can later import the stuff File/add downloaded package02:25
onkarshindegerryxiao: Its all about choice.02:26
appLooks like our Windows servers maybe only allow Kerberos. We have trouble finding Kerberos support for Nautilus. Any hints?02:26
WhistlerSweetestSavage yeah, you might need to edit your sources.list before02:26
gepatinoirvin, ok, i should have looked :O02:26
Steve|say like... counter-strike, etf (quake3 mod) or somthing along those lines?02:26
SweetestSavageWhistler, alrighty, thanks =)02:26
Whistlernp :)02:26
onkarshindeSteve|: For office, multimedia there are already packages in Ubuntu02:26
gerryxiaoany features specially?02:26
lowman62Steve|: but I am not a gamer and there maybe something better for games02:26
gerryxiaoonkarshinde?02:26
Steve|oh ok cool02:26
trappistSteve|: quake3 runs natively in linux and cs runs in wine02:27
lowman62Steve|: in the linux world all those things you would normally have to install already come with ubuntu like office software02:27
onkarshindegerryxiao: It provides just enough packages for a desktop instead of installing every package available02:27
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Steve|would you guys say ubuntu is smoother/faster than windows?02:27
app!smb02:27
ubotuapp: Are you smoking crack?02:27
gepatinoirvin, is that in dapper only?02:27
irvingepatino, yes02:27
Steve|( trappist ): does cs run as smooth or smoother?02:27
irvingepatino, it is still under development02:27
app!ntfs02:27
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK02:27
Jowiapp: !samba will work02:27
gerryxiaoonkarshinde,that, gentoo can do02:27
app!samba02:28
ubotuI guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:28
lowman62Steve| : I have been running ubuntu now as a test for 68 days without a reboot and with very little problems...this is the most unbroken linux I have used thus so far02:28
onkarshindegerryxiao: But you have to compile everything in gentoo not on Ubuntu.02:28
Steve|lowman62 - i see, sounds good.02:28
trappistSteve|: technically slightly less smooth, since directx calls are being translated to opengl calls on the fly, as well as win32api calls to their linux counterparts, but you'd have to watch your fps counter pretty close to see the difference02:28
Steve|haha btw, how is ubuntu pronounced?02:28
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Steve|trappist - ah ok, thanks02:28
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gerryxiaoonkarshinde, any others?02:29
lowman62Steve|: and yes..unlike windows that really will not make any use of the gig of ram you have...ubuntu uses it...my machine flies02:29
gepatinoirvin, where can i read more about it?02:29
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gepatinoirvin, maybe i could help somehow02:29
raphaHi all!02:29
Steve|lowman62 - haha, i only have 512mb :|02:29
onkarshindegerryxiao: I haven't tried many distros. So can't tell you02:29
irvingepatino, go to #ubuntu-motu and try to get in touch with mvo02:29
WhistlerSteve| i pronounce it like [ short u, buntu] 02:29
gepatinoirvin, ok, thanks02:29
gerryxiaooh,nevermind02:29
JowiSteve|: 512 is more than enough. even 256 work ok02:29
irvingepatino, or #ubuntu-devel02:29
lowman62Steve|: believe it or not windows doesn't use all that ram...reports it does but does not in reality...ubuntu will02:30
raphaHow can you configure Apache so that a second VirtualHost directive doesn't overwrite a first VirtualHost directive?02:30
gerryxiaoonkarshinde, i mean in ubuntu02:30
Steve|haha interesting02:30
gepatino \ #ubuntu-devel02:30
gepatinoups02:30
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TrackilizerHey guys.02:31
lowman62you will like it Steve|02:31
onkarshindegerryxiao: that is what. I was a RH/Fedora man before Ubuntu. In my opinion it works mostly out of box. And the package management is really good02:31
Steve|how do you guys think ubuntu would run on my machine? - amd xp 1700+, 512mb ram02:31
TrackilizerNeed your help, how do i check the exact name of the video card and sound card being used at the moment?02:31
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onkarshindeSteve|: Using same configuration. Runs flawless02:31
gerryxiaowhich packgage managment system?02:31
Steve|nice02:31
Zag0Rdoes anyone have prism 2 with wlanng driver running ?02:31
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lowman62Same here Steve| ...absolutely flawless02:32
onkarshindegerryxiao: I mean debian packaging and apt-get.02:32
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Steve|awesome hehe02:32
vbgunzis there anyway to apply a pseudo drop shadow to windows... some way to do it without a hungry composite manager?02:32
Jaredcan gparted shrink my linux partition02:32
Steve|ubuntu looks really nice too haha02:32
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WhistlerJared yes it can02:32
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Steve|yeah back when i got my cpu, it was cheap02:32
WhistlerJared but youll need to boot from live cd if you wanna resize current linux partition02:33
gerryxiaosure, apt not bad02:33
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onkarshindeJared: gparted won't touch partitions in use. Instead boot from Live CD and use parted02:33
gerryxiaowhy resize partiton?02:33
onkarshindegerryxiao: he wan't to make room for XP02:33
lowman62XP ...blech!02:34
gerryxiaohmm02:34
appJowi, !samba referenced links don't have anything on Kerberos, and searchin Ubuntu wiki for it gives nothing02:35
yanchengmay i noe how to perform multisession burning in gnomebaker?02:35
gerryxiaoonkarshinde, i'm using gentoo now, just curious about ubuntu02:36
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TrackilizerWould anyone happen to know how tocheck the exact name of the video card and sound card being used at the moment?02:37
gerryxiaoTrackilizer, lspci?02:38
onkarshindeTrackilizer: Go to System->Administration->Device Manager02:38
TrackilizerOk, i'll do that, thanks alot guys02:38
AndyLHi everyone02:38
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AndyLI wonder if someone has some time to offer a complete newbie to linux and ubuntu some advice02:39
snk00sjfire away02:39
onkarshindeAndyL: GO on02:39
AndyLthanks02:39
gerryxiaoAndyL, google works02:40
AndyLI have just bought a wireless IP camera which I want to use on an old pc I have. The idea is that this old pc will monitor and record the video from the camera and enable me to view images using my web browser on other PC's in the home.02:40
tomJowi: a file system check didn't help02:40
AndyLthe problem is the software that comes with the camera is Windows based02:40
onkarshindeyancheng: Gnome baker forum http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=cda1fe68d39fc45d7e2f6fc3f6657dee02:40
AndyLI have just downloaded ubuntu and have no idea whatsoever what to do after I've installed it02:40
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Jowitom: alright, was worth a try. no errors reported though?02:41
tomJowi: i didn't see any errors02:42
onkarshindeAndyL: Check if this helps http://www.zoneminder.com/02:42
tomJowi: it always hangs when it tries to open a new file which isn't cached...02:42
lowman62AndyL: I plugged my camera in and ubuntu found it without the windows software...did you try that?02:42
tomJowi: but i/o bandwidth is okay02:42
AndyLyes, I did see this but got put off as it seems quite technical to install02:43
Jowitom: personally i would re-install and format the disks and re-write the partition table. but i'm drastic.02:43
AndyLlowman62, no. not yet. I haven't installed ubuntu yet02:43
BirdyKillerhi.. I'm trying to install 5.10 on an amd64 system with a dell 2005fpw monitor and evga geforce 7800 GT video card.  when I try to login after initial setup a fuzzy window pops up and the system locks... ctrl+alt+backspace won't work, but the mouse still moves02:43
onkarshindelowman62: His requirement is specific. He wants to monitor room with that camera02:43
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BirdyKillerI tried booting rescue mode and apt-getting the latest nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings packages but they don't seem to make a difference02:44
BirdyKillerany help or suggestions would be appreciated :) thanks02:44
Jowitom: that is, i would wipe the disk clean. maybe someone else's got a better option for you.02:44
lowman62AndyL: although there is going to be a learning curve ..definitely, I went through that 8 years ago. Ubuntu as well as most linux distros I have used I have found they are very well documented..unlike Winblows ...oops! :P02:45
mweBirdyKiller: read the nvidia wiki if you didn't02:45
BirdyKillerk, sorry I didn't see that..  I'll check it out02:45
AndyLthanks. the other issue is that my wireless network card doesn't appear to have any linux drivers. what should i do?02:45
mwe!tell BirdyKiller about nvidia02:45
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mweBirdyKiller: see /msg from ubotu02:46
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BirdyKillerthanks :)  I feel like an ass now02:46
lowman62AndyL: ubuntu found my wireless on my laptop right from the install02:46
onkarshindeAndyL: there is something called ndiswrapper which uses Windows drivers. Search on Ubuntu wiki02:46
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AndyLndiswrapper?02:46
mweBirdyKiller: don't02:46
onkarshindelowman62: you seem to have 'The Perfect Machine'02:46
AndyLsorry, I'm really new to all this02:46
idefix_where are all them commands/files in the /dev directory for?02:47
mwe!ndiswrapper02:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper02:47
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lowman62onkarshinde: I just truly never had any problems with ubuntu..that is a fact02:47
idefix_mwe? is that my answer?02:47
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AndyLthanks02:47
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mweidefix_: that was for AndyL. he asked what ndiswrapper is02:48
lowman62except it would not install on that crappy profile 2 gateway heap of junk holding my door open now LOL02:48
idefix_!dev02:48
ubotuidefix_: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:48
gnomefreaklol02:48
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Jowitom: how is the diskspace on that drive? any left?02:48
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idefix_right... that is the default answer02:48
lowman62but i will not hold it against ubuntu for that ...windows didn't even like it :P02:49
gnomefreakif you stick with stable and you dont use it for anything weird you will have very few issues with it02:49
idefix_okok, so you can mount stuff in your dev directory, but why are there over a hundred entries in there? how can there be so much mountable?!02:49
C-O-L-TI need a program which can make for me picture slideshows with music which i can write into dvd and other file formats, avi, mpeg and so on??????????02:50
tomJowi: i also tried an older kernel, but it doesn't help02:50
tomJowi: 52% used, 5.1 GB available02:50
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Jowitom: and does /etc/fstab look ok?02:50
C-O-L-T I need a program which can make for me picture slideshows with music which i can write into dvd and other file formats, avi, mpeg and so on??????????02:50
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, have you tried openoffice impress?02:50
JoeBlowI had to completely reinstall linux and use the install disks partitioner to actually get this working02:50
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tomJowi: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:51
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Jowitom: yeah, that's ok02:51
idefix_!mount02:51
uboturumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f02:51
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: no but it is possible with it????? I don't need a powerpoint like program, I need something easy to use but still professionall. OOO Impress is something like that???02:51
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symtabhello02:52
JoeBlowhi02:52
Jowitom: i'm abit lost. no ideas pop up i'm afraid.02:52
gnomefreakOOo impress is simialr to power point and to make slide shows i dont know of anything else that can make them other than power point of impress02:52
AndyLguys, I've just started to install ubuntu now. Is it normal for the screen to be flicking and very 'hashy' during the install?02:52
symtabi just installed ubuntu (last stable version), and i have some questions...is there i way i can get newer package versions, like mysql-server-5.x...i have mysql-server-4.1 now02:52
symtabalso if you install gst-plugins you need to manually run gst-register02:53
idefix_hey guys, the URL's the uboto bot comes up with don't really work :-(02:53
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: but i can add music to it and can I write into dvd format like a movie, to play in a dvd player with tv??02:53
tomJowi: well thank you anyway for your help02:53
blue-frogsymtab, mysql5 u would have to install it yourself, should stick with 4, gst register yes02:53
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gnomefreakC-O-L-T, i dont use it but i would suggest reading up on it first to find out02:54
AndyLanyone?02:54
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GURTnot that i've experienced AndyL02:54
AndyLoh02:54
gnomefreakAndyL, what part of install?02:54
AndyLthe very beginning02:54
GURTdefine "hashy"02:55
gnomefreakduring base install?02:55
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: ok thanks for advices, but if you know somebody in the community who works with graphics, and pictures than say me some names nickes to contact the02:55
C-O-L-Tm02:55
C-O-L-Tprobably they know something02:55
AndyLscreen flickering and angled lines over the screen. Hard to describe02:55
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lowman62my laptop flickered a bit during the install...but it stopped once the install go underway02:55
lowman62*got02:55
AndyLI'll let u know when and if it stops.02:56
gnomefreakAndyL, mine did during base system install than failed :(( AndyL let it run it should be fine02:56
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AndyLZoneminder requires something called mysql. Is that hard to get and install?02:56
gnomefreak!mysql02:56
ubotulamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP02:56
symtabblue-frog, thanks02:57
gnomefreaklooks easy and i use the word easy because i couldnt think of  a better word :(02:57
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AndyLis LAMP the same as mysql?02:57
gnomefreakthats what the m inlamp stands for02:57
osfameronthe M stands for "MySQL or Postgres"02:57
AndyLoh, i see. Do I need the apache things as well?02:58
osfameronjust like P stands for "Perl, PHP, Python or Ruby"02:58
gnomefreakP=php02:58
lowman62AndyL: LAMP os linux apache myql and php installed in one package...I use lamp for development purposes...but I got mine from www.friendsofapache.org02:58
AndyLzoneminder help file says 'make sure you have a development installation and not just a runtime'02:58
Polly_Morfosfameron: precisely!02:58
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Jowitom: how is the disk speed from a live cd with untouched boot options? (if you mount the disk after live-cd is booted)02:59
osfameronhttp://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2001/01/25/lamp.html02:59
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AndyLlowman62, www.friendsofapache.org doesn't seem to work03:00
fekafte i upgraded to breezy and start xorg, i only will get a green/blue screen and nothing happens03:00
lowman62hold on let me see AndyL:03:00
lowman62AndyL: sorry..here it is http://www.apachefriends.org/en/03:01
AndyLthanks03:01
osfameronyou don't *need* it to be installed in one package, though that's often convenient03:02
osfameronwith a debuntu box, it's trivial to apt-get the bits you need if you're comfortable doing that03:02
osfameronI think all the all-in-one packages distribute PHP03:02
AndyLI think zoneminder is going to be way too complex for me to get up and running03:02
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AndyLjust reading through their readme file makes me shudder!03:03
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tomJowi: huh there was something like "hda: timeout waiting for DMA" when i was rebooting. couldn't write it down because it was rebooting03:04
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tomJowi: i'll check the logfiles03:05
fekis that problem critical?03:06
fekSkipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":  No symbols found03:06
fekSkipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o":  No symbols found03:06
fekSkipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o":  No symbols found03:06
fekSkipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found03:06
tomfek: nvidia drivers?03:06
fekno03:06
feki have i i85503:06
tomno idea then03:07
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tomfek: you probably won't get 3d acceleration03:07
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Jowitom: got alot of hits on google for that error03:07
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fekmy hole kdm won't start :(03:08
fekthat's my problem, tom03:08
tomfek: are there more error messages? like "no screens found" ? can you post the X server log file somewhere?03:09
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AndyLthe install has almost finished and its still flickering. almost like the refrsh rate is wrong or something.03:09
drcodehi all03:09
symtabi just have to say ubuntu is great, i'm used to distro's like slackware, lfs...but ubuntu is out-of-the box and it works. so if there are any developers here, thank you03:09
Jowitom: found this. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2549903:10
drcodecan I convert firefox bookmark into netscape or mozilla?03:10
JoeBlowok, when i go to sudo nano ect/fstab/ it doesnt see any drives03:10
lowman62AndyL: that could be...you won't know for sure till it is completely installed and boot up03:10
AndyLok, it's installing its applications at the moment03:10
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aftertaf symtab :]  great to hear it..... ;)03:11
tomJowi: thanks i'll read it03:11
fektom: http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/Xorg.0.log03:11
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lowman62symtab: thats what I am talking about LOL ;)03:11
feki got the problem after i dist-upgraded to breezy03:11
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JoeBlowto see my drive info, the command is "sudo nano ect/fstab" right?03:12
lowman62or sudo gedit /etc/fstab &03:13
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osfameronre LAMP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_%28software_bundle%29 points to German article it was coined in (originally M=MySql, P=PHP) but later popularized by MySQL and O'Reilly (OnLAMP) more flexibly03:13
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JowiJoeBlow: "sudo fdisk -l" for info on all disks. /etc/fstab contains info for when the disks are mounted at boot.03:14
llebergCan i use apt-get instead of synaptic?03:14
Polly_MorfHow do i get wma-support in gstreamer?03:14
lowman62osfameron: take a look at this http://www.apachefriends.org/en/03:14
llebergand install the same packages?03:14
JoeBlowJowi: when i do fstab it doesnt show any info03:14
llebergInstall the following packages with Synaptic (See How do I use Synaptic to install packages?)03:14
llebergLibraries (multiverse) > gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse03:14
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blue-froglleberg, synaptic is the interface for apt-get03:14
Polly_Morfthat easy... nice03:14
JowiJoeBlow: /etc/fstab is a textfile that is read during boot.03:14
llebergcna i just sudp apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse instead?03:14
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llebergtypo!03:15
lowman62JoeBlow: it is the way you typed the path try this "sudo nano /etc/fstab" just like that03:15
JoeBlowJowi: but shouldnt it have like ntfs defaults 0 0 , stuff liek that03:15
JowiJoeBlow: yes. it should not be empty03:15
osfameronlowman62: yeah, I've heard on Windows those packages are particularly useful, good project03:15
JowiJoeBlow: maybe you misspelled it. "sudo nano /etc/fstab"03:15
lowman62osfameron: I use it on ubuntu...rocks03:15
llebergblue-frog, Is that a yes? :)03:16
JoeBlowJowi: thanks, i use umask=0222 so everyone can read right?03:16
AndyLif the installation works the idea is to remove the hd and put it in another machine, will this work?03:16
tomfek: i can't see any errors in your logfile...03:16
blue-frogyes03:16
ZambbaAnd please note that Linux is mostly a case-sensitive system :)03:16
llebergnice03:16
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llebergthanks03:16
AndyLI have no choice as the mini pc I want to use has NO FD or CD03:16
appI am still looking for ANY info of Ubuntu kerberos support, i.e. integrating with (LM/NTLM blocking)  Windows domains....03:16
aleksi_has anybody here any experience on using sonyericson phones as modems?03:17
gnomefreakanyone else in here running dapper?03:17
seicherlbobhi there again! Anybody knows how i can stop my external display from only mirroring (its a thinkpad with an external samsung lcd03:17
blue-frogapp, samba-ldap03:17
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JowiJoeBlow: i don't use 0222 so i don't know03:17
seicherlbobgnomefreak: good morning!03:17
lowman62asfameron: that along with my Zend and life is good for this developer ;)03:17
blue-frogJoeBlow, yes03:17
gnomefreakgm seicherlbob03:17
fektom: the problem seems to be related to xiinerama03:17
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BirdyKillermwe, I'm not sure the guides address the same problems, but I'll give it a shot in a few :)03:18
AndyLif it does cause problems is there anything i can do?03:18
JoeBlowok, i got /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    umask=0222        0       003:19
JoeBlow , but it still wont let me read drive03:19
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blue-frogJoeBlow, what it says?03:19
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lowman62you know for sh!ts and giggles I thought maybe I would try the livecd on that pile rubbish in the corner holding my door open (Gateway Profile 2) ...it puked on the live cd and the install version...hehehe thus why it is a door stop LOL :P03:19
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JoeBlowblue-frog: it says i dont have premission03:20
gnomefreakJoeBlow, use sudo03:20
blue-frogJoeBlow, did u umount the drive and mount it again after changing fstab?03:20
JoeBlowblue-frog: yea03:20
joey222morning guys, my head is up my ass with gentoo so of it comes and on goes ubuntu03:20
lowman62sudo03:20
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fekhow do i downgrade xorg?03:21
JoeBlowblue-frog: I dunno why, but it took about a minute after re mounting it, and now it works03:21
Jowijoey222: you use ubuntu as your head?03:21
gnomefreakjoey222, noone told you gentoo was hard before you tried it?03:21
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blue-frogJoeBlow, works or doesn't work, make your mind03:21
fek /topic03:21
lowman62joey222: i thinnk your wrong...i think you plucked your head out of your ass if you are installing ubuntu LOL :P03:21
fekhow do i downgrade xorg?03:21
joey222nope lol, ave tryed suse and didnt like it, gentoo just brnds my poor stoned head, so ubuntu it is.03:22
seicherlbobcan anybody help me with my second display? It's only mirroring but i'd like to use it as a second screen03:22
lowman62joey222: good choice ;)03:22
Polly_MorfAny possible way to make amarok support wma? It already plays wma, but it says its 2h long in 5242880 kb/s...03:22
joey222thk u lol03:22
gnomefreakfek,  type in terminal apt-get --help03:22
JoeBlowblue-frog: works now03:22
lowman62yw03:22
joey222just gotta wait unill 5.10 downloads, ave got 5.4 on disk somewer but cant b bothered to look for it03:22
JoeBlowblue-frog: ty03:22
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gnomefreakjoey222, if you installed gentoo congrats i know people that couldnt get past the install03:23
Jowijoey222: 5.10 is worth the download03:23
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lowman62joey222: you sound like me...you burn'em ...toss'em somewhere ...and rather download it again than get up a look for it under the heap LOL03:23
Steve|thats so lazy :|03:23
Steve|i'd do that if i had a faster net connection03:23
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Raven^hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?03:24
Steve|512 adsl is too slow though03:24
joey222so u cant blame me03:24
lowman62<--I resemble that comment Steve|03:24
fekgnomefreak: but how do i _downgrade_ only one package?03:24
Steve|haha03:24
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joey222lol03:24
gnomefreakfek, it didnt say in the --help?03:24
lowman62joey222: I would never blame ya...you should see my cd heap as I call it LOL03:24
Jowitried so many i lost count. have numerous live-cd's i never used03:24
joey222i have centOS, suse 9.3 and 10, ubuntu 5.04 and gentoo on disk along with Knoppix03:24
AndyLsorry to be a pain guys but can someone advise me what I should do if I move the HD with ubuntu on it to another system?03:25
Steve|is gentoo any good03:25
fekgnomefreak: where?03:25
Steve|whats the diff between ubuntu and gentoo03:25
Steve|AndyL how do you mean03:25
lowman62Steve| : stick with ubuntu03:25
gnomefreakim looking fek03:25
joey222it need complied from stage one, whole lot of work to get it installed, avebeen working on it for over a day now so feck it i said, back to ubuntu03:25
aftertafAndyL:  apart from put it on the same ide master/szcondary, nothing...    use the 386 kernel if not same processor achitecture.03:25
JowiSteve|: the biggest difference is the installation process03:25
Polly_MorfSteve|: portage... Gentoo is for control-freaks.03:25
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gnomefreak!apt03:25
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto03:25
joey222ill be needing some help with Samba and my Windows Network.03:25
Steve|i see03:26
AndyLSteve|, I'm installing ubuntu for the 1st time and if its sucessful the hd will need to be moved into another system03:26
Jowiubotu, tell joey222 about samba03:26
gnomefreakfek, try those it should tell you i never downgraded a package before03:26
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Steve|well03:26
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joey222hey ths Jowi03:26
joey222thks*03:26
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jaldhardoes anyone use vmware with kubuntu breezy?  Have you noticed kernel oopses from the bridged networking driver?03:27
fekSorry. The page you have requested does not exist. Try one of the following pages with similar names or see the full title index.03:27
aftertafAndyL:  in that case, keep it simple, put it as ide1 primary on both machines and install. it'll be fine, normally.03:27
Steve|i'm not too sure about ubuntu, but unless the other system is the same as the one you have now, won't you have problems?03:27
aftertafudev/hotplug auto finds hardware ;)03:27
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AndyLSteve|, the physical HD will be moved to this system and I've been told that this may cause hassles as ubuntu has already recognized the original PC's hardware03:27
appblue-frog, what is samba-ldap? It is not an Ubuntu package name! And nothing on "apt-cache search ldap | grep samba", besides, using Kerberos to authenticate to smb/cifs servers has no need for the client to know anyhting about LDAP03:28
Steve|yeah thats what i was thinking03:28
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aftertafAndyL:  normally not true...... if special hardware in host Pc and not in destination pc, then take it out ;)03:28
AndyLI don't have any other way of getting an OS on this other system as it has no FD or CD03:28
lowman62LOL that Profile 2 Gateway door stop has the screensaver stuck on it...won't stop...so it is a psychodelic door stop now LOL :P03:28
Steve|oh well there you go03:28
Steve|well03:28
blue-frogapp, samba.org menu by example chapter 5, and idealx.org to install it easily03:28
Steve|if you're going as far as taking out the hdd03:28
Steve|why dont you just take out hte cd03:28
Steve|cd rom03:28
Steve|and plug it into the othe rsystem03:29
AndyLSteve|, the other PC is a mini pc (smaller than a shoebox)03:29
lowman62nah! I like it that way...was a burned cd...keeps it out of the pile03:29
Steve|oh03:29
Steve|can't you get adapters for cd roms03:29
AndyLno03:29
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Steve|oh well03:30
AndyLit has 2 usb ports but the bios won't allow boot from a memory stick03:30
Steve|really03:30
Steve|lame bios03:30
AndyLwhich is why I'm doing it this way03:30
AndyLit's from 1999 !03:30
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Steve|well trust aftertaf then :P03:30
Steve|haha03:30
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zosologisthow do i get that wierd little toolbar at the bottem of desktop with gnome, just the series of icons connected by a small bar in the middle, not very discriptive but whateva03:31
JoeBlowok, how do i get all users write premission to a fat32 drive?03:31
zosologistill see if i can find a screen shot03:31
JowiJoeBlow: umask=000003:31
JowiJoeBlow: umask=000 (three zeroes)03:31
AndyLit does have a network port but I'm not sure if it can boot from a network and even if it could I don't know what that means!03:32
Steve|try it anyway :P03:32
aftertafAndyL:  try the HD swapping, it *should* work, seriously03:32
Steve|trial and error is fun03:32
gnomefreakAndyL, did the install faill?03:32
JoeBlowJowi: tried both, lets me read but not write03:32
Steve|yeah plus there will be no problems to the hdd if it fails anyway i think?03:33
AndyLit's still installing the applications. Screen is still flickering03:33
JowiJoeBlow: mine look something like this: /dev/hda7       /media/data       vfat    defaults,umask=000        0       003:34
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gnomefreakAndyL, im thinking once it finishes you should beable to configure X if X fails to run03:34
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JoeBlowJowi: shit, i forgot to unmount and remount, sorry, i got it03:34
gnomefreakAndyL, i think its the disk that causes that flickering03:34
AndyLwhat is X gnomefreak?03:34
lowman62I think tonight I am gonna take this Profile 2 out into the field...stuff a stick of dynamite in it...and video tape it blowing up into pieces...and send the tape to gateway :P03:34
aftertafyou could always try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to reconf X03:34
gnomefreakatleast for mine it was03:34
gnomefreakXorg is graphical03:34
gnomefreakanything that has to do with graphics runs off of X03:35
AndyLah, ok03:35
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lowman62AndyL: X is your friend :P03:36
gnomefreaklol03:36
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gnomefreakX is starting to change in dapper :(03:36
lowman62really?03:36
gnomefreakits starting to look alot like windows03:36
JoeBlowis their anyway I can just create a shortcut to a folder?03:36
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gnomefreakthe notifier now has a graphical pop up and the log-off choices are graphical not03:37
AndyLdoes ubuntu have a control panel like windows does for this kind of thing?03:37
ccookeJoeBlow: yes, several03:37
gnomefreaknow*03:37
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lowman62gnomefreak: that figures...once upon a time windows started looking like some linux desktops...now vise versa...yack03:37
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tomJowi: lol i got this when trying to hdparm -tT /dev/hda: http://home.eggdrop.ch/dma-errors.jpg03:38
JoeBlowccooke: whats the easiest?03:38
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gnomefreaklowman62, dont get me wrong it doesnt really look like windows its just colorful like theirs but its broken anyway :)03:38
ccookeJoeBlow: if you want a GUI method - right click on the folder, select 'Make link'. That creates a link called 'link to Foo'. Drag and drop that link to anywhere you like03:38
Jowitom: wooooow. ehhh..... hmmm.... wipe that sucker clean man03:38
BirdyKillerlowman62, easier for smart programmers to make it look like a crappier interface they already know than for dumb users to learn something new03:39
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lowman62gnomefreak: I gave up on windows completely when I installed XP and seen all the coloring books and crayon objects...blech! was like some children had a field day on my computer :P03:39
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JoeBlowccooke: I dont see any make link option03:40
gnomefreaklowman62, just think vista is gonna be 10 times as colorful and crappy03:40
tomJowi: i'm trying e2fsck -c /dev/hda1 now03:40
ccookeJoeBlow: are you using kde?03:41
ccookeJoeBlow: or gnome?03:41
lowman62gnomefreak: shutters...I told my wife ubuntu was the new windows version...she believes me...I did that so I could get rid of all the windows...I mean after all they are only good for opening and closing anyways LOL :P03:41
JoeBlowccooke: gnome, thats what comes standard with ubuntu right?03:41
lowman62JoeBlow: yes03:41
lleberglowman62, Nice going!03:41
ccookeJoeBlow: okay. What are you right-clicking on?03:41
JoeBlowccooke: I folder03:42
JoeBlowccooke: a folder03:42
lowman62lleberg: ya she says...hey this is great...I told her bill gates was a genius LOL :P03:42
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gnomefreaklowman62, they say dapper is gonna compare to vista (atleast thatsd waht they said)03:42
ccookeJoeBlow: What version of Ubuntu are you using?03:42
blue-frogJoeBlow, click on "make link" now03:42
gnomefreakbut either way it will never lose its (linux-look)03:42
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aftertafgnomefreak:  they meant that it would be up against vista.... iirc03:42
JoeBlowccooke: 5.1003:42
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ccookeJoeBlow: right. The option is there - take another look.03:43
gnomefreakaftertaf, it wont be because vista isnt set to be released till 200703:43
JoeBlowccooke: oh yea its their, but it wont let me click it03:43
aftertafhehe set back again????? :P03:43
gnomefreakyep03:43
JoeBlowccooke: its grey instead of black03:43
gnomefreaklol03:43
aftertaflol03:43
lowman62gnomefreak: well i have not tried dapper am using breezy but if that is the way it goes...I am sure somethingn else will come along that is less eye candy ...I stick with the idea that less is best03:43
gnomefreakmid 2007 the ms tech told me03:44
blue-frogJoeBlow, indeed if u don't hve write permission...03:44
aftertafi'm on dapper and no eye candy overload here...03:44
gnomefreakalso on dapper03:44
aftertafyou can always go to E17 instead or gernome03:44
JoeBlowblue-frog: hmm, how should i get that03:44
ccookeJoeBlow: hmm. where is the folder?03:44
gnomefreakbut aftertaf did you do yesterdays kernel upgrade?03:44
JoeBlowblue-frog: in my ntfs partition03:44
JoeBlowccooke: in my ntfs partition03:44
aftertafgnomefreak:  yep but no reboot yet03:45
blue-frogJoeBlow, normal u don't...03:45
gnomefreaklol wait03:45
aftertaffor a kernel update?????03:45
aftertafusplash??03:45
ccookeJoeBlow: Ah, right. Then you'll need to use the command line.03:45
lowman62cool! like i said never used dapper...breezy is enough eye candy for me...as an epileptic eyecandy is a little bit intolerable03:45
gnomefreakaftertaf, the updater shows a graphical popup and same with the log-off03:45
ccookeJoeBlow: get a terminal, and type:03:45
aftertafwhat updater?03:45
gnomefreak2.6.15-1103:45
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aftertafon gdm?03:45
gnomefreakupdate notifier03:45
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gnomefreakyes03:45
blue-frogJoeBlow, sudo ln -s /path/to/folder /home/user/folder03:45
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aftertafoh that... i'm a kubuntu user anyway, so i dont have it :)03:46
ccookeJoeBlow: ln -s /path/to/real/folder ~/Desktop/folder (to put a link on your desktop)03:46
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WebLOCHhello03:46
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gnomefreak:)03:46
ccookeblue-frog: not sudo.03:46
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gnomefreakkubuntu splash was updated too i remember that much03:46
WebLOCHAnyone here having trouble with java 1.5 and azureus?03:46
ccookeblue-frog: you don't need root to make a link to something03:46
aftertafand i'm on e17 so even better. eye candy at no resource overhead :)03:46
symtabnautilus crashed :(03:46
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blue-frogccooke, yes...03:47
ccookeaftertaf: don't you find it a bit wearing after a while?03:47
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aftertafnah i love it :)03:47
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ccookeI find eye-candy heavy systems to get in the way too much03:47
lowman62WebLOCH: yes I had probs with it...then tossed it...and use the BitTorrent client that comes with ubuntu...works for me03:47
fekdoes anybody know, why my kdm won't start? i have an intel 855gm vga... i only get a green screen and nothing happens.03:47
aftertaftrue... but this loks nice without being excessive03:47
aftertaf(imho)03:47
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WebLOCHlowman62, its nice but ... i like the DHT03:47
fekwithout any xinerama stuff in the xorg.conf, i'll get a wrong resoloution with 640x480 on one screen03:47
ccooke... then again, I favour a desktop with no panels or bars - just a black screen.03:48
aftertaflool03:48
macrihello everyone... I am new to Ubuntu..  Does any Memory tuning required on Ubuntu; if i follow the default installation03:48
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kemikmacri:  not afaik03:48
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fekhello?!03:49
lowman62WebLOCH: I know what you mean...but it was so mem intensive and never really closed properly...was poorly programmed javajunk as I call it03:49
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macrikermik:  I am using ubuntu with 1GB ram; but i find still my pc using lots of swap memory03:49
WebLOCHlowman62, its a mixture of azureus bugs and java bugs03:49
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kemikmacri:  that's weird.. shouldnt need any swap :/03:49
blue-frogmacri, you have a problem then...03:50
seicherlbobMy updatemanager had problems updating some packages. how can i manually reinstall them?03:50
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lowman62WebLOCH: as a programmer I know bugs are inevitable but I rather wait on some apps to mature more before using them03:50
aftertafseicherlbob:  sudo apt-get -f install   : or sudo dpkg -i /path/to/downloaded/debsfiles03:50
WebLOCHlowman62, agreed, thats how i feel about firefox haha03:51
WebLOCHlowman62, how long does the client normally take to kick  in on a download?03:51
macriKermik: When i using normal application everything seems to be fine and max memory in use is only 130Mb; but when i start using VMWare and i see swap mem usage start increasing..03:51
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gnomefreakhow do i find the broken package?03:51
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seicherlbobaftertaf: ok, i'll check. thxs03:51
gnomefreaksynaptic tells me there is one but doesnt find it03:51
WebLOCHlowman62, think i have my answer, tracker timeout03:51
aftertafgnomefreak:  try sudo apt-get -f install   too03:52
lowman62WebLOCH: azureus or the BitTorrent client for ubuntu?03:52
lowman62WebLOCH: ya that will do it too LOL :P03:52
WebLOCHlowman62, i was using gnomebtdownload just now03:52
seicherlbobaftertaf: Great! Thanks!03:52
aftertaf:)03:52
macriblue-frog: any advise on memory fine tuning03:52
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WebLOCHlowman62, but after 60seconds it informed me the tracker is down03:52
blue-frogmacri vmware...03:52
gnomefreaknope still locale is failing and ther eis inconsistancy in my system so the lang. selecter crashes :((03:53
seicherlbobnow all i need for now is the second display. how can i stop it from mirroring?03:53
tomJowi: hm. it seems to work now after the e2fsck -c...03:53
AndyLubunti is installed and all appears okay. The only problem now is that my wireless network card does not appear to be working. There are no lights on it either. Does ubuntu have a add hardware wizard?03:53
Jowitom: great news!03:53
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lowman62WebLOCH: I know it is rather lacking in functionality from my point of view but...it still works and you can set it to time out sooner if you like...that is what i did...am impatient LOL :P03:54
macriblue-frog: in vmware i set to use a max of 128 mem only - so in theory if i start using two mahine.. it should use a max of 500Mb only (just a approx cal)03:54
penkoadhi03:54
gnomefreakill bbl i have a few ideas :))03:54
AndyLanyone?03:54
WebLOCHlowman62, this is obscene, azureus was running fine under 1.503:54
WebLOCH1.4 *03:54
trappistAndyL: what card?03:54
macriblue-frog:  also one thing suprises me "free -m" output and gnome system monitor result is not matching03:54
AndyLit's a microsoft mn-720 wireless NIC03:54
blue-frogmacri +vmware in itself03:54
blue-frogmacri +xorg03:55
lowman62obouy03:55
Mabus06WebLOCH, azureus isn't working for me anymore too03:55
AndyLi've tried removing then inserting the card but to no avail03:55
AndyLno lights03:55
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g0judoes anyone know a howtow about how to install mouse themes on x11?03:56
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Kibouazureus works fine here03:56
WebLOCHMabus06, was it working till recently ?03:56
Mabus06do you have a driver cd, andyl03:56
AndyLnot for linux, no.03:56
Mabus06WebLOCH, yes... till like yesterday or something03:56
Mabus06For windows, AndyL ?03:56
AndyLyes03:56
lowman62WebLOCH: to me although java has come a long way...I do believe it is still in its infancy stage as of yet...although I do get amused by their versioning numbers...have you figured that one out yet? LOL :P03:56
Mabus06Use ndiswrapper.03:56
WebLOCHMabus06, did you make any changes to java at all?03:56
Mabus06WebLOCH, nope03:56
WebLOCHlowman62, yeah its plain awful03:56
AndyLndiswrapper?03:56
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lowman62AndyL: ya you need ndiswrapper to install windows drivers in linux03:57
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AndyLwhere do i get that from?03:57
appblue-frog, that reference you gave tells about having a Linux computer account in your Windows domain. But I would be happy to just use "kinit" manually to autheticate my existing user account ("anssi"). I can now actually do that and I get a krb ticket. But when trying to use "mount -t smbfs" it complains and fails in a miserable way.03:57
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Mabus06Hmmm... it's not ndiswrapper, what is it?03:57
seicherlbobmy wlan always sets disabled after a second. got a clue why?03:58
bretzel632 people here! ...I feel not alone anymore :-)03:58
Deterministanyone wanna see a nice "start" menu icon i've made? :)03:58
Mabus06The utility for using windows drivers for wifi cards...03:58
WebLOCHMabus06, the only thing with that is that Javas only real competition is C# :P03:58
durandiswrapper03:58
AndyLwhere do i get it from?03:58
lowman62AndyL: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper03:58
Mabus06it should be on ubuntu by default, but I don't find ndiswrapper...03:58
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AndyLeh?03:58
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lowman62AndyL: are you canadian ?03:58
AndyLlowman6203:58
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AndyLno03:59
AndyLenglish03:59
AndyLwas that a command string?03:59
Mabus06lowman62, I remember it being installed on ubuntu by default03:59
lowman62AndyL: I guess you say eh like us canadians then :P:03:59
seicherlbobAndyL:  yes03:59
AndyLwhere do i type it?03:59
Mabus06And ndiswrapper on a terminal says command not found... what was it called, if not ndiswrapper?03:59
igaaahi03:59
duraTake off eh you hosers03:59
aftertafAndyL:  open a terminal window04:00
AndyLhow?04:00
g0ju:D04:00
lowman62Mabus06: it install ndiswrapper by default on my laptop but am not sure 100% anyone else know more about ndiswrapper that could help AndyL out here?04:00
igaaadoes everyone use an optical audio output with breezy ?04:00
WebLOCHwhat a farce.04:00
Mabus06applications > accessories > terminal04:00
seicherlbobAndyL:  are u using gnome or kubuntu?04:00
duraAfter the nuclear holocaust, we spend our time searching for beer.04:00
AndyLubuntu04:00
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Madeyehow to search for package from command line >?04:00
seicherlbobis there a K in the lower left corner?04:00
g0juapt-cache search04:01
NgMadeye: apt-cache search foo04:01
aftertafapt-cache search ndiswrapper04:01
aftertafthere are 3 that look interesting....04:01
lowman62AndyL: click Applications>Accessories select Terminal04:01
aftertaf!ndiswrapper04:01
ubotu[ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper04:01
AndyLtried that, also said not found04:01
lowman62obouy!04:01
WebLOCHwhat do you guys use for dvd re-authoring and transcoding ?04:01
JoeBlowwhats the best free program for emulating windows games?04:02
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Mabus06JoeBlow, I use wine04:02
GenghisKhanJoeBlow: cedega04:02
Mabus06But 'best' is a funny word.04:02
seicherlbobAndyL: try the "K Menu" -> Utilities -> Terminal04:02
g0jucedega04:02
lowman62JoeBlow: I use wine04:02
MadeyeNg, this will search the cache or online repos ?04:03
NgMadeye: it will search the cache04:03
JoeBlowwhere do i get the free version of cedega?04:03
igaaaTry wine04:03
lowman62AndyL: did you install Kubuntu?04:03
igaaaIt will search online repos04:03
seicherlbobAndyL: the K is important and no typing mistake04:04
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lowman62JoeBlow: try wine and see if that works first04:04
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knubbeAndyL: in case you installed kubuntu: k menu -> system -> "teminal program (konsole)"04:04
g0juwine is old.04:04
JoeBlowdo i need to install the program through wine, or just try and run it from the windows folder?04:04
seicherlbobknubbe: or Utilities -> Terminal ;)04:04
lowman62g0ju: yes but that is what makes a fine wine ;)04:04
trappistJoeBlow: usually you'd install with wine, but some games work either way04:04
trappistlowman62: oh that was bad.04:05
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igaaadoes anyone use an optical audio output ?04:05
knubbeseicherlbob: thats not installed by default.04:05
lowman62trappist: your right was really bad..can hear the booing from here LOL :P04:05
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g0julowman62, i dont think he wants to emulate solitaire or something. :)04:05
seicherlbobknubbe: oh... well. then my system is freaky enough to have both of them04:05
knubbeseicherlbob: or.. at least it wasnt installed by default here. it came in when i installed the ubuntu-desktop04:05
jouni_andyL are you using breezy hoary or warty04:05
lowman62g0ju: I am not a gamer..so I will take your word for it04:06
g0ju(:04:06
lowman62<--programmer04:06
Mabus06funny, I remember ndiswrapper being installed by default04:06
JoeBlowI always have problems getting into my partitions through wine04:06
Chronozwhen i was installing ubuntu, i forgot to configure the network ... how can i do this now? what program is used?04:06
trappistJoeBlow: you just have to set them up as drives in your wine config04:06
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JoeBlowtrappist: how do i find out how to do that?04:07
igaaaChronoz, System -> Administration -> Network04:07
trappistJoeBlow: what flavor of wine are you using?04:07
AndyLit seems that ubuntu hasn't detected any pcmcia ports04:07
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JoeBlowtrappist: imnot sure, i just downloaded the normal wine off winehq04:07
JoeBlowtrappist:wine 0.9.504:08
Chronozigaaa: isnt there a command line tool?04:08
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AndyLis there anything else i should try04:08
lowman62update on the Profile 2..one hour to boot up on live cd and 1 hour to shut down on livecd and no can move when boot up...nice work gateway...now I know why the box it came in looked like a cow *chunks Profile 2 out the window with the cows* :P04:08
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igaaachronoz: sudo network-admin04:09
Mabus06ndiswrapper usually works, and easily, but for some reason I can't do it... :/ sorry04:09
Deterministso, no one wants my pretty "start menu" icon? :D04:09
appblue-frog, that reference to "Samba by example" you gave tells about having a Linux computer account in your Windows domain. But I would be happy to just use "kinit" manually to autheticate my existing user account ("anssi"). I can now actually do that and I get a krb ticket. But when trying to use "mount -t smbfs" it complains and fails in a miserable way.04:09
PeterkenHello all, is there a program in the apt list so i can watch divx movie's? i'm working with breezy at the moment.04:09
Chronozigaaa: tnx04:09
aftertafAndyL:  type this : dpkg -l |?grep pcmcia04:09
trappistJoeBlow: then it should be in your .wine/config04:09
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JoeBlowok i loaded my drives in wine, do i just select the setup ,exe04:09
Mabus06ubotu, tell peterken about restrictedformats04:09
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Peterkentnx Mabus0604:10
Mabus06np04:10
foxsoulq xopa04:10
aftertafAndyL:  you should have pcmcia-cs and pcmciautils04:10
JoeBlowok i loaded my drives in wine, do i just select the setup ,exe04:10
AndyLwhere aftertaf?04:10
aftertafif not "sudo apt-get install" both of them04:10
foxsoulalguien de panama04:11
aftertafin console AndyL  ;)04:11
AndyLk04:11
aftertaf"sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs pcmciautils" if they arent shown by the dpkg -l command (L, not one)04:11
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AndyLis that one command string or two aftertaf?04:12
aftertafAndyL:  type the dpkg -l line, and if you dont see the pcmcia packages, then type the sudo apt-get line04:13
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lowman62i just checked my mail..shipit sent me another set of 5 cds...hmmm! *chunks in the pile he already has*04:13
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aftertafi'm outta here all.... cu tomorrow :)04:13
lowman62laterz aftertaf04:13
aftertaf;) lowman6204:14
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AndyLi typed the line b4 reading your last comment. it seems that pcmcia-cs is installed and it couldnt find pcmciautils04:14
AndyLif pcmcia-cs is installed what should i do?04:14
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ale3hsI got about 94% signal strength in my wireless, but it is keeping go no signal for a sec, everytime, and I got d/c.. anybody knows why happens that??04:15
lowman62AndyL: that is not a gateway computer you are using is it?04:15
AndyLno04:16
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AndyLat the moment its an ibm thinkpad04:16
lowman62AndyL: just checkin...I have gateway issues LOL :P04:16
AndyLthis is before i transfer the hd to my mini pc04:16
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AndyLall was working b4 ubntu04:16
lilije ne cmoprends pas l'anglais04:16
pansonici need asf codecs for totem... anybody help?04:17
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ale3hspansonic, wincodecs32 dont work?04:17
lowman62pansonic: try w32codecs04:18
pansonicno it seems all except asf works04:18
lilii don't understand English .04:18
mwe!fr04:18
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais04:18
pansonici have these codecs but asf is not working04:18
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Jowilili: #ubuntu-fr04:18
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ale3hspansonic, basicaly I had same problem, but asf plays in gxine I use04:18
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ubuntu_ala brale di san04:18
lilinn04:19
pansonicso i should install another player04:19
ale3hsi unistall totaly totem04:19
ubuntu_bla bla04:19
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lowman62pansonic I use mplayer as well as xine they work for me with the w32codecs04:19
pansonicso really which is the best player for ubuntu04:19
lilii don't understand English04:19
ale3hspansonic, mplayer04:19
ale3hsor gxine for me ..even if it needns a lot of resources04:20
pansonici have problems with mplayer as it doesn't work ell in mozilla04:20
fyrzenit is? It's kinda slow, what about VLC?04:20
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pansonici love vlac04:20
mwepansonic: you need the mplayer-plugin04:20
lilibye04:20
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pansonici had vlc when i had xp on my puter04:20
ale3hspansonic, try gxine04:21
AndyLwhat does pcmcia-cs do?04:21
pansonicyeah i will .... i love linux04:21
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mweAndyL: manage you pcmcia devices04:21
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AndyLbut its not working!04:21
AndyLis it an application?04:21
pansoniccedega real for cross gaming?04:22
AndyLand what about pcmciautils?04:22
fyrzeni use regular xine-ui, gxine doesn't show you the keyboard hotkeys in menus and xine-ui has a lot more features in the prefrerences, 'sides the gtk engine is faster, despite beeing older and uglier04:22
mweAndyL: it's a set of utilities04:22
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AndyLwhere mve04:22
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tomveensgo to http://www.v9t5.nl and help us04:23
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jendaWhat's the publuc opinion on prelink?04:23
AndyLwhere are these pcmcia utils?04:23
mweAndyL: what's pcmciautils? I don't have any package by that name04:24
AndyLpcmciautils. it is in my list04:24
AndyLso is pcmcia-cs04:24
mweAndyL: on breezy?04:24
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AndyLi have no idea what breezy is04:24
mweAndyL: it's the latest stable ubuntu release04:25
jendaAndyL: the current version of Ubuntu04:25
AndyLthen yes04:25
JowiAndyL: breezy is ubuntu 5.1004:25
AndyLlatest version04:25
lowman62AndyL: I never had to use them personally..so lack of the experience is why I am not answering you on that...breezy is the ubuntu version you just installled 5.1004:25
mweAndyL: the stable one? there is no package pcmciautils here04:25
AndyLi can't get my pcmcia wireless nic working04:25
mwe!info pcmciautils04:25
Storkhey, why can't rythmbox play my .m3u files?04:25
JowiStork: install gstreamer0.8-mad04:26
mwe16:25 [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  Package 'pcmciautils' does not exist.04:26
StorkO RLY?04:26
mweAndyL: what are those pcmciautils you're taling about?04:26
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Maxhbdoes anyone know how to configure alsa to make optical output work ?04:26
StorkJowi, not found on apt-get04:27
jendaHowhedooba - what do you people think about PRELINK?04:27
ale3hsStork, u listen to radio with rythmbox?04:27
ale3hsStork,  mms streaming I mean04:27
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Storki'm trying to listen to much from my gnump3d server04:27
Jowi!info gstreamer0.8-mad04:27
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB04:27
Storkmusic* even04:27
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lowman62jenda: if I knew what prelink was I could give you an opinion :P04:27
Jowiuniverse Stork, you need to add it to your repositories04:28
Jowi!repos04:28
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource04:28
Storkoh, right04:28
Onelonehi04:28
Storkjust out of interest, why don't they include the repos at install?04:28
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mweStork: policy reasons04:28
Storko, rly?04:28
JowiStork: because in some countries, some of the software is in a legal gray zone04:28
Storkoh04:29
mweStork: they only include free software by default04:29
Storkcan't we just bomb those countries?04:29
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JowiStork: the whole US?04:29
lowman62Stork such as the w32codecs04:29
Jowilol04:29
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jenda!prelink04:29
JoeBlowhow do u run a program through wine, I was typing "wine e:\\quake2\\setup.exe04:29
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink04:29
mweit's not free either04:29
StorkJowi, good point, the US has given such incredible cultural contributions to the world.. Like rap, obesity, and microsoft.04:29
psusilol04:30
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JoeBlowStork: i thought both the internet and linux where invented in california04:30
Storkwouldn't want to bomb that now would we04:30
avalost!p2p04:30
ubotumethinks p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo04:30
StorkJoeBlow, the internet was developed by CERN, afaik04:30
Onelonelinux is inventyed in lapland04:30
lowman62jenda: now that i know what prelink is...thanks to the bot...umm faster starting apps would rock in my opinion :P04:30
Storkowned.04:30
mwejenda: doesn't prelinking make your binaries really large?04:30
psusiStork: you mean DARPA04:30
mjrmwe, it's not the same as static linking :)04:31
JoeBlowStork: are u sure it wasnt at the University of california in conglomeration with berkley?04:31
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JowiStork: actually, when rap first started to appear in europe, it caused a huge sub-cultural phenomena :)04:31
zosologistwhat do i need to add mp3 support to amaroK04:31
JoeBlowdude music in europe sucks, ive been living here a year, and its all pop04:31
JoeBlowmaybe its just germany04:31
JoeBlowbut the radio is terrible04:31
psusimwe: no, prelinking just adds a few bytes to the binaries that they normally compute when loaded... so it doesn't have to spend time computing them when you run them04:31
jendamwe: dunno - haven't noticed. But it's annoying that it runs for a long time whenever I apt get04:31
jendaJoeBlow: Agreed. I listen to import :)04:32
JowiStork: sorry, getting off topic in here. someone slap me04:32
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JoeBlowjenda: lol04:32
mwepsusi: well it sounds like a good idea then04:32
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JoeBlowjenda: in europe it seems to be that they just flood the market with new artists to test of their good or not, and it gets old04:32
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psusimwe: I don't think it speeds things up enough that you can actually see it... might shave like 5 ms off the load time... woohoo ;)04:33
[A] ndy80hi, one simple question: I'd like to buy a bluetooth headset to use with Linux. I already have an usb-bluetooth adapter and it works fine with Linux. does it mean that any headset will work on my ubuntu or it depends from headset?04:33
JoeBlowanyway, if anyone has a few minutes of time, can someone help me with wine04:33
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styx2006where can i get a deb package including mysql headers?04:33
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jendaJoeBlow: sure, open bottle with corkscrew, and chug.04:33
paulproteus|laptstyx2006: libmysqlclient14-dev or somesuch04:33
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mwepsusi: oh yeah!04:33
JoeBlowjenda: lol04:33
Storkjenda, we'll never get tired of that one :p04:33
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eZtaRIs there a way to error-check and maybe repair corrupt files on a fat32 partition with linux?04:34
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JoeBlowbut seriously, i cant get anything to load in wne, and i think i followed winehq's directions properly04:34
lowman62jenda: that is a capitol idear...*grabs wine from fridge and shares it with his dog* burp!04:34
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jendaJoeBlow: and the problem is where?04:34
JoeBlowjenda: I think its on the user level, i dont think im properly loading stuff04:34
mweJoeBlow: can't you even get notepad to run?04:35
ale3hsgtk_gnutella uses the mldonkey_server ..?? no huh..?? Coz I want to delete it04:35
JoeBlowjenda: in terminal i do, e:\\quake2\\setup.exe04:35
lowman62JoeBlow: mine just worked from the install...I click the setup.exe and wine starts and so does the install04:35
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JoeBlowlowman62: so u go to winecfg, and load ther app, then what?04:35
jendaJoeBlow: you have to do "wine /name/of/exe" AFAIK, but don't listen to me..04:36
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lowman62JoeBlow: I open nautilus...select the setup.exe ...give it a click and voila wine starts and so does the install04:36
mwejenda: that's right04:36
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mweJoeBlow: you're doing wrong04:37
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mweJoeBlow: also there's a q2 linux installer04:37
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mweJoeBlow: dont wine the windows one04:37
JoeBlowmwe: quake2 was just my test program04:37
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mweJoeBlow: you're not supposed to type a smb style url to run a windows exe04:38
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frogzook, I'm back - still no luck - my lappie doesn't even make mounting / rw when booting - pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/664704:38
JoeBlowmwe: then how do i do it?04:38
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mweJoeBlow: and only very few windows application actually work. try something simple first, like notepad.exe04:38
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eZtaRIs there a way to error-check and maybe repair corrupt files on a fat32 partition with linux?04:38
lowman62JoeBlow: cd to folder or wherever your setup.exe is and run it...wine will start so will your install04:38
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mweJoeBlow: wine /path/to/notepad.exe04:39
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mweJoeBlow: I doubt the windows installer for q2 will even run in wine04:39
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JoeBlowmwe: ok I ran notepad, theirs a start04:40
Krystofis there a ubuntu-blessed way of installing manufacturers' ppd files such that they will be picked up by the system and not clobbered on upgrades?04:40
frogzooeZtaR: you might try fsck.vfat04:40
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DaveyIs there any offline website browsers for CLI in linux? That support JS?04:40
mweJoeBlow: good. then it works04:40
akonkwaCan anyone here help me with a router problem?04:40
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mweJoeBlow: you can only run a tiny fraction of windows apps in wine04:40
Jowiakonkwa: what is the prob?04:40
darren_I dont know if it support Js, but lynx?04:40
Storkakonkwa, never04:40
eZtaRThanks frogzoo :d04:40
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jendaJoeBlow: Umm... WHY the HELL did you run notepad?04:41
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StorkJoeBlow, you're trying to install quake 2?04:41
paulproteus|laptJoeBlow: Notepad is a start.04:41
Daveydarren_, I don't think that has spidering rupposrt does it?04:41
lowman62jenda: to test if wine was working properly04:41
darren_ah04:41
mwejenda: for testing he ran notepad04:41
JoeBlowI ran notepad just to make sure my syntax was correct04:41
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Jowiakonkwa_: what is the prob?04:41
darren_hmm, wget, and lynx?04:41
mwejenda: seems like a sane idea04:41
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StorkJoeBlow, i feel for you.04:42
darren_if it has directory listings04:42
jendariiight... I'd say: no it does not run properly, because it ran notepad :)04:42
seishi* can i play an .avi file, with subtitle .str, using mplayer or other player?  *04:42
JoeBlowStork: come on, im like 10 hours into linux04:42
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frogzooreally could use some hints to fix a non bootable machine - definately don't relish the idea of reinstalling04:43
mweJoeBlow: wine generally don't work with the apps I need it to run04:43
lowman62seishi: I use mplayer with the w32codecs installed...works for me04:43
luk3hey where can i find the whole documentation about ubuntu to download to my computer???04:43
Daveynope, lynx doesn'04:43
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Daveyt support JS :/04:43
StorkJoeBlow, i had HELL trying to install quake 4 natively. good luck.04:43
mweJoeBlow: the have a compatiblity list04:43
seishiops srt04:43
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lucasvoanyone know how I can install the VT1612A sound driver? http://epialinux.org/files/epia_howto/ar01s05.html < is some page, but only for redhat 2.404:43
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seicherlbobwhere can i find the x-server config file?04:43
akonkwa_Jovi: I am connected to my router (via wireless) but I can't surf the web... :s04:43
jendafrogzoo: the live CD is most definitely part of you rsolution.04:43
mweJoeBlow: it's like way less than one percent of all windows apps04:43
frogzooseicherlbob: /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:43
frogzoojenda: I'm on the live CD atm04:43
jendafrogzoo: Right :) So what seems to be the prob?04:44
Jowiakonkwa_: i've got no linux + wireless experience i'm afraid. can you ping the router and do you get an ip from it?04:44
frogzoojenda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/664704:44
akonkwa_yes I can04:44
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lowman62JoeBlow: like i said earlier I only use it for a few windows apps i have to use...if I could avoid wine altogether...you betcha i would ;)04:44
mweJoeBlow: I still keep windows around so I can play my favorite games04:44
akonkwa_Jovi (This is for a pc running windows xp)04:44
Jowiakonkwa_: does ifconfig only have one active interface?04:45
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trincamckeegood evening04:45
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Jowiakonkwa_: can you ping 216.239.59.9904:45
Krystofhttp://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~csr21/bad-dialog-of-the-week.png04:45
jendafrogzoo: could you paste your fstab?04:45
JoeBlowmwe: I am locked out of windows right now lol, because 64 bit version requires activation, and i dont have a 32 bit disk laying around04:45
hou5tonhey ... is there a way to open Synaptic by simply pressing the "Windows" key on the keyboard?04:46
hou5tonI didn't see a way to do it in shortcuts04:46
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akonkwa_Jovi : I'm not sure I understand what  you mean04:46
mweJoeBlow: I see. also I wouldn't recommend the 64 bit unubuntu version at this point04:46
Jowiakonkwa_: in a terminal "ping -c 5 216.239.59.99"04:46
JoeBlowok, i ran notepad, worked great, did the same thing for quake 2, but it tells me in terminal wine: cannot find 'quake2.exe'04:46
mweJoeBlow: there are simply too much stuff that don't work or work bad04:46
seicherlbobfrogzoo: thx. I alsways forget the capital X04:46
frogzoojenda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/664804:47
JoeBlowmwe: is their something free thats better then wine?04:47
mweJoeBlow: no04:47
jendaJoeBlow: no, def'tly not04:47
JoeBlowmwe: or is gaming on linux rightnow just really not happening?04:47
frogzooJoeBlow: qemu is a gpl version of vmware04:47
mweJoeBlow: you simply cannot run most windows apps in linux04:47
jendaJoeBlow: www.liflg.org04:47
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frogzooJoeBlow: if wine won't do it - consider qemu, it's nice04:48
monyetzi!router04:48
monyetz!router04:48
uboturouter is, like, totally, a device used to connect multiple computers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.04:48
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monyetzcan someone help me with router /04:48
monyetzi have wireless AP from msi04:48
trincamckeei just installed ubuntu from scratch, the thing that is bodering me is that my 2 w$ partitions are automatic mounted, but i cant write on them(fat), how or where can i delete the entries that mount this partitions on startup?04:48
mweJoeBlow: if you don't mind only playing those few games that work in linux you'll be ok. but like 99.99 of all games don't run in linux even with stuff like cedega04:48
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Dr_Willistrincamckee,  in the /etc/fstab file04:49
monyetzi want to use VLC with sap04:49
trincamckeetank u Dr_Willis04:49
mweJoeBlow: you can play most id games like q4. half-life 2 works too04:49
Dr_Willistrincamckee,  comment them out with a # at the front.04:49
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JoeBlowmwe: all i play is quake 2, and hl204:49
ccookemwe: er... it's a lot better than 99.99%, you know. Have you actually tried it?04:49
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monyetzbut i don't know how should i set my router so that i can received sap file list04:49
mweJoeBlow: good then04:49
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ccookeI play games in linux quite a bit04:49
mweJoeBlow: but I doubt youll get it to work in 64bit ubuntu04:49
WebLOCHHey guys, is there anything I can use to do a low-level format of a usb/mp3 player?04:49
JoeBlowmwe: I just gotta find a way to get quake 2 working04:49
mweJoeBlow: use the 32bit version instead04:49
jendafrogzoo: hmm... and an fdisk partition table?04:50
JoeBlowmwe: Im on 32 bit04:50
mweJoeBlow: good04:50
ccookeWebLOCH: generally speaking, you should never, ever do that.04:50
WebLOCHJoeBlow, try Jake204:50
mweJoeBlow: just google icculus04:50
WebLOCHccooke, i know, but its set to 1gb when its only 512mb, and its annoying the hell out of me04:50
mweJoeBlow: he did the quake2 for linux and there's a good guide as well04:50
ccookeWebLOCH: ... return it?04:50
trincamckeeDr_Willis, seems that i dont have that dir04:50
trincamckeethe fstab one04:50
WebLOCHccooke, its from hong kong, i got half my money refunded, shipping is too much  hassle04:51
Dr_Willistrincamckee,  its a file :P04:51
Dr_Willistrincamckee,  ls -l /etc/fstab04:51
trincamckeeahhh lol04:51
trincamckeesorry04:51
trincamckee=)04:51
JoeBlowWebLOCH: whats jake 204:51
JoeBlowmwe: ill check it out, thnx04:51
Storkwhy can't my rythmbox play .m3u files?04:51
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WebLOCHJoeBlow, its the quake2 engine rewritten in java, and it runs like a bullet on my systenm04:51
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mweJoeBlow: beware that getting steam to run in linux takes some dedication though04:52
fyrzenit takes dedication to get it to run in windows04:52
Dr_WillisQuake2 in Java. :P04:52
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fyrzenlet alone linux04:52
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WebLOCHDr_Willis, its surprisingly good04:52
Dr_WillisYep. I dont even play HL2 under windows any more04:52
tonberry1hey, should ubuntu include "make" program by default (if so, how do i access it? writing make into the terminal results to "command not found")04:52
frogzoojenda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6649 - nothing obvious here either - this all worked prior to installing a few pkgs - snort, nessusd & honeyd - even rebooted cleanly once too, wierd04:53
trincamckeewilliams do u have a nice framerate?04:53
JoeBlowWebLOCH: can I use mods, and multiplayer?04:53
WebLOCHJoeBlow, as long as you have the pak files for it yes04:53
JoeBlowok cool04:53
WebLOCHJoeBlow, by default it allows you to grab the demo pak files, you need full game pak files to play full game of course04:53
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ompaulStork, report it as a bug on http://www.launchpad.net04:53
Steve|hey.. i hear WAN is really bad with linux?04:53
frogzooSteve|: rubbish04:54
paulproteus|laptSteve|: What do you mean by WAN?04:54
mwenow I'd like to see Jalf-Life 2 as well04:54
Steve|wireless lan04:54
paulproteus|laptDo you mean wireless?  Wide-area network?04:54
Steve|yeah04:54
WebLOCHmwe, that would be amusing04:54
jendafrogzoo: I'll be damned... the only thing that strikes me is that the only bootble partition is NTFS, but then again... if it worked before... I have no clue.04:54
paulproteus|laptSteve|: Well, I'm using wireless right now on my iBook G4....04:54
JoeBlowWebLOCH: alright, i got those04:54
frogzooSteve|: some 802.11b/g cards don't have linux drivers...04:54
paulproteus|laptSteve|: On Ubuntu, that is. (-:04:54
WebLOCHJoeBlow, good stuff, just download jake04:54
ompaulSteve|, Wide area lan is the norm for WAN04:54
D-rockBreezy has been running great on my laptop since it was released, but in the past 2 weeks it has been hanging all of the time.04:55
ompaulSteve|, sorry Wide area network is the norm for WAN04:55
paulproteus|laptNow, wireless roaming I don't know a good solution for in Ubuntu.04:55
frogzoojenda: well that makes 2 of us - I'm stumped - think I'll sleep on - thanks anyways :)04:55
Steve|ah k04:55
jendaSteve|: If you mean Wireless, then there are a few problems, but it's usually OK, and Dapper's supposed to fix most.04:55
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jendafrogzoo: OK, night04:56
frogzooD-rock: consider installing/running smartutils (disk checker)04:56
Steve|what kind of problems?04:56
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D-rockWell, I dual booted to windows and windows runs fine. I also tried swapping the HD into an identical laptop and I get the same hangs04:56
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AndyLLas i thought, when i moved the HD to my other machine ubuntu freaked out. Is there a way of getting it to rebuild itself?04:56
D-rockIf it's plugged into Ethernet it usually only hangs 4-6 times a day04:56
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paulproteus|laptD-rock: You should really test the hard drive and the RAM.04:57
paulproteus|laptD-rock: They commonly fail and their failures are often more obvious in Linux than in Windows.04:57
fyrzenwhy would that be?04:57
D-rockIf it's not plugged into Ethernet it will sometimes hang on boot and will usually only last 5-10 minutes04:57
D-rockSMART values are all within thresholds04:58
AndyLLanyone?04:58
D-rockI've run memtest and it came up clean04:58
D-rockOn both laptops04:58
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D-rockIs there any way to do a more thorough HD check than just looking at SMART values?04:58
Ngsmartctl can tell the drive to run a selftest04:58
paulproteus|laptfyrzen: I think it's because people are used to programs hanging or crashing mysteriously in Windows.04:58
frogzooD-rock: does it hang only when running x?04:58
psusiD-rock: yea... run badblocks04:59
D-rockNo04:59
D-rockIt hangs in recovery mode, too04:59
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D-rockI'll try badblocks04:59
frogzooD-rock: smartutils will let your run a 50minute disk test04:59
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frogzooD-rock: don't run badblocks on ide - bad idea04:59
psusibug bad sectors won't cause hangs usually04:59
D-rockbadblocks is non-destructive, what about this 50 minute test?04:59
psusifrogzoo: badblocks doesn't know or care what the electrical interface to the drive is..04:59
frogzoopsusi: badblocks killed an ide drive of mine once, & i've never forgiven it05:00
D-rockLOL05:00
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psusiit iddn't kill it... the drive was already dead... badblocks was just the straw that broke the camel's back05:00
D-rockWell, at this point I'm going to back up my home dir and try anything, I can't get work done05:00
frogzooD-rock: check the man page05:00
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frogzooD-rock: sure it's not an X problem?05:01
frogzooor you're just running out of swap???05:01
D-rockfrogzoo: hangs on console boot and in recovery mode, too05:01
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AndyLLanyone help me?05:01
psusiD-rock: I think you are barking up the wrong tree.... hard locks are either X lockign up, or something wrong in the kernel... such as a buggy driver... most likely it's X05:01
frogzooD-rock: dma settings mebbe? /etc/defaults somewhere05:01
psusiohh, hangs in console too eh?  hrm... when it hangs, do the caps lock and friend's work?05:02
psusii.e. can you toggle the LED on and off?05:02
D-rockYeah, I checked and the dvd drive was not using dma, so I set /etc/hdparms.conf05:02
D-rockNo, hard lockup. Even magic sysreq doesn't appear to work (not sure if that's enabled in stock kernels)05:02
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psusiI don't think it's enabled in the breezy stock kernels... seems to be in dapper though05:02
AndyLLwhat is the command to get it to rebuild itself?05:02
frogzooD-rock: what's magic sysreq, btw?05:03
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D-rockfrogzoo: kernel debug keystroke, alt-printscr05:03
psusimagic-sysreq rox0rs j00r s0x0rs05:03
psusihehe05:03
zosologistanyone tell me where in gnome when things go to the system tray, how do i get em back05:03
D-rocklets you look at kernel procs, registers, etc05:03
psusilet's you do things like force the kernel to sync, remount read only, or reboot... even when the system appears otherwise to be completely hung05:04
JowiAndyL: you installed ubuntu on a HDD on one system and then moved the HDD to another?05:04
johantest05:04
WebLOCHD-rock,  will it help me get my sensors working ?05:04
D-rockJowi: yes05:04
AndyLLyes Jowi05:04
AndyLLi've rebooted in recovery mode05:04
frogzoojohan: pong05:04
D-rockwebloch: no idea, but I've done kernel dev in the past and it really helps :)05:04
AndyLLas it had a problem with X05:04
psusiD-rock: so if you boot into recovery mode and just let it sit there at the prompt, it will eventually lock up?05:04
D-rockpsusi: yes05:04
AndyLLis there a command to get it to rebuild itself?05:05
WebLOCHD-rock, im having awful luck getting my systems temp sensors working05:05
D-rockWhether I let it sit there or if I'm typing in recovery mode :(05:05
JowiAndyL: where does it crash?05:05
AndyLLits not so much a crash05:05
psusiD-rock: any sort of correlation you have noticed?  like it lasts longer after the computer has been off and cold for a while?05:05
AndyLLsomething about X not working05:05
AndyLLI've rebooted in recovery mode and I have the cursor awaiting commands05:05
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D-rockI was surmising that it might be the network driver, since it seems to hang often on boot when it gets to DHCP discovery, but it's just not that consistent in the boot sequence05:05
JowiAndyLL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:05
zosologistanyone want to tell me where the gnome system tray is05:05
psusiD-rock: and have you tried running memtest86?05:06
yogishould the dapper server kernel (currently 2.6.15-11) run on a PIII machine?05:06
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D-rockIt has hung pretty much everywhere in the boot sequence :(05:06
D-rockI tried memtest86 and it came up clean05:06
AndyLLtrying that now Jowi05:06
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psusiD-rock: let it run for hours?05:06
Ngyogi: it ought to, are you sure you want to run dapper though? ;)05:06
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yogiNg: I am playing with a future home server05:06
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D-rockpsusi: it's a paperweight if I let it run for hours :)05:06
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psusiD-rock: try disabling the nic then... if the nic driver is buggy, it isn't likely that it would allways lock up in the same point during the boot sequence05:07
akonkwa_Jovi I tried to ping  216. .... but got no response05:07
yogiNg: but hanging at boot spoils 99.99 of the fun ;)05:07
psusiD-rock: huh?  memtest86 can't run for hours and find no problems?05:07
Jowiakonkwa_: can you post your ifconfig in pastebin please05:07
gnomefreakhanging at boot begins the fun!!!05:07
D-rockpsusi: sorry, I thought you meant normal run05:07
gnomefreaklol05:07
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DRK13hi guys05:08
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D-rockI'll try to run memtest86 for hours, but how do I prevent the nic driver from loading? rename the module? Or should I edit /etc/network and disable it there?05:08
Ngyota: try breezy :)05:08
gnomefreakyogi,  yes the 2.6.15-11 runs on my p2 i dont see why it wouldnt run on a p305:08
lennart_what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work05:08
BaninnI'm trying to learn linux and i was looking at file premissions. I don't quite understand why any files should be read/write/exec for world/everybody. Are there any reason not to remove these premissions?05:09
gnomefreakyogidapper has a long way to go if you want problems install it if you dont want problems stick with breezy05:09
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Dr_WillisD-rock,  theres a /etc/blacklist or /etc/modules/blacklist file that lists what modules to not auto-load.05:09
sexcopter8000mcan anyone recommend a good and free codec to encode in?05:09
D-rockDr_W: thanks, I'll check that05:09
lennart_what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work05:09
D-rockOK, off to break the laptop!05:09
Dr_WillisBaninn,  RWE for everyone would be a little rare..05:10
Jowisexcopter8000m: ogg is free (and pretty ok)05:10
fekdamn, breezy sucks a lot05:10
BaninnDr_Willis, I didnt mean rwe, just any of them05:10
sexcopter8000mJowi, sorry i meant video data, though isn't there one by the same people?05:10
Dr_WillisBaninn,  but for a directory to be  where its contents can be seen/cd into.. it has to be executable..05:10
gnomefreakfek, whats wrong with breezy?05:10
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akonkwa_Jovi: how do I post it in pastebin?05:11
gnomefreak!pastebin05:11
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:11
fekgnomefreak: my xorg is completly broken05:11
Jowisexcopter8000m: yep, ogg theora05:12
fekgnomefreak: and i am fed up to fix it over severall hours05:12
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AndyLLJowi, that seemed to work. Thanks. Now if I could only get my pcmcia wireless nic to work I'd be very happy05:12
gnomefreakfek, what is it doing? broken doesnt say much05:12
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Jowi!tell akonkwa_ about pastebin05:12
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sexcopter8000mfek, there's a command, something like sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg, but don't quote me on that05:12
JowiAndyLL: pcmcia wireless is out of my knowledge :)05:12
fekgnomefreak: when i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i'll get a running single head config, but when i want to build up the dualhead config again, it brokes05:13
sexcopter8000mJowi, that's the baby, thanks05:13
PuMpErNiCkLeIt's 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'05:13
feksexcopter8000m: i will my old running config05:13
gnomefreakfek,  does breezy support duel head monitors?05:13
feki toke 2 days to config the old config and i will not reconfig it again05:13
fekwhy not?05:13
fekit's linux?!05:13
PuMpErNiCkLeyes it does05:13
PuMpErNiCkLeI've had a dual-monitor setup before.05:13
gnomefreakfek, i dont know i only use one moniter per pc05:14
PuMpErNiCkLeI might even have my xorg.conf file... lemme check.05:14
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fekdamn, one time a running dist-upgrade... everytime the same shit... grr05:14
sexcopter8000mfek, depending on your graphics card, you set it up differently05:14
sexcopter8000mthink it's called twinview with nvidia05:14
psusiD-rock: no... running memtest86... you need to let it run for several hours to be fairly sure you don't have a ram problem05:14
psusiD-rock: yank out the card05:14
psusiBaninn: on what file?  system files generally should be r to everyone, and x if they are programs.... stuff in your home directory shouldn't be05:14
fekit was quite difficult to set it up, because this intel 855gm sucks and the dell 2001FP tft, too.05:14
PuMpErNiCkLefek: I have an xorg.conf file that worked for dual head... you'll have to change a few values for your hardware, but I'll put it in the pastebin and you can see it there.05:15
feki switched to ubuntu to have a running system, but this is really worst.05:15
cyphasehttp://open.neurostechnology.com/files/dtcsa_1.html05:15
sexcopter8000mfek, ok, no idea about intel :p05:15
fekPuMpErNiCkLe: i _had_ a running config!05:15
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gnomefreakfek,  its not ubuntus fault its not working if other people have set it up and working fine05:16
Baninnpsusi, just files in general. I dont quite understand why everone need to be able to read or execute05:16
fekgnomefreak: why not?05:16
PuMpErNiCkLefek: Yeah, but you don't have one now, do you? ;)05:16
fekwhy must they change this fonts and so on on a way, nothing will run after it?05:16
Jowignomefreak: yeah, that will make fek less annoyed ;)05:16
gnomefreakfek, make sure your card supports it than make sure you have right drivers05:16
gnomefreaklol Jowi05:16
fekgnomefreak: wtf? of course the card supports it05:16
fekit run with hoary05:16
Dr_Willisnvidia also has their own way of doing dual-head, or you can use the xcinirama stuff.05:17
fekafter breezy it won't run!05:17
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hikenboothello all I cant seem to find the base package for installing latex...i see a lot of other latex packages but not the base one...i need it for compiling xen docs?05:18
fekrofl... X is not executable05:19
lennart_what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work05:19
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lillpellefek: if you really want help it may be a better strategy to stop blaming ubuntu for everything and try to give more information about the actual problem.05:19
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Dr_Willishikenboot,  if you click on the other packages in synaptic - it 'should' auto select (or ask to select) the needed latex packages as well.05:19
feklillpelle: if i could find something usefull in the logs, i will do...05:19
fekmy problem is like this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35143.html05:20
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hikenbootah so just install another latex higher order package and it will install the latex base one you mena05:20
hikenbootah synaptic05:20
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hikenbootgot you thanks Dr_Willis05:20
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tonberry1im trying to get the "make" program (it seems the wmware-version of ubuntu doesnt include that). I typed "sudo apt-setup install make" and chose a country to download from, it went fine in that point ( http://var.tonberry1.net/searchingMake.jpg ), but then there was some error ( http://var.tonberry1.net/searchingMake2.jpg ). Any suggestions what i could do to get the "make" program?05:21
cajuni can't access one comp from the other.  it worked fine last night.  i need to transfer files.  both runing ubuntu.  one is Live the other is breezy.  pings work on both for IP and Name05:22
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fekPuMpErNiCkLe05:22
cajuni have restarted samba on both machines05:22
fekPuMpErNiCkLe: could you show me your config please?05:22
jessica_im running ubuntu and kubuntu-when i log in to my ubuntu session the sound works-on kubuntu the sound does not work....it says "sound server information message..error while initializing the sound driver..coulndt connect to server..the sound server will continue,using the null output device" how can i fix this without breaking gnome?05:22
monyetzcan someone help me to seeting vlc /05:23
monyetz?05:23
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PuMpErNiCkLefek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/665205:23
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Mabus06who's trying to set up dual head, and for what card?05:23
monyetzi'm using breezy with wlan on a router from msi rg54gw05:23
monyetzi'm using breezy with wlan on a router from msi rg54gs05:23
mwecan someone running the ubuntu kernel cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq and tell my the output. I am runninng a custom kernel05:23
gnomefreakfek, thats really nothing like your problem thats only for 1 monitor and has been taken care of in breezy already05:23
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monyetzbut the problem i can not wathc tv over sap session05:24
monyetzhow should i set my router ?05:24
lorenzohallo05:24
gnomefreakmwe give me a sec05:24
mweok05:24
gnomefreakmwe i got a 1 for output lol05:24
tonberry1how can i add a program to be launched from anywhere from ubuntu if i just type its name?05:24
mwegnomefreak: good05:24
tonberry1(type its name in terminal i mean)05:24
fekgnomefreak: sure, but where is the problem else located?05:24
gnomefreakthats good?05:25
Dr_Willishikenboot,   the package names seem to be 'tetex-base'  and tetex-extras and tetex-docs  from what i can tell05:25
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fekgnomefreak: is there something now concering xinerama?05:25
mwegnomefreak: it should be a number or file not found :)05:25
Mabus06I got a 1, too.05:25
fekgnomefreak: because i am using xinerama on false05:25
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raaradd the path to the binary to $PATH05:25
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fekPuMpErNiCkLe: thanks05:25
PuMpErNiCkLefek: np05:25
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lillpellefek: when trying to start X do you get some (EE) entries in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?05:25
fekPuMpErNiCkLe: bfg? played to much quake? ;)05:26
feklillpelle: nothing like that05:26
Mabus06doom, you mean?05:26
feklillpelle: and no unusual warnings05:26
PuMpErNiCkLefek: It's actually a company, but yeah... :)05:26
fekMabus06: quake of course, too ;)05:26
Mabus06there is a bfg in quake?05:26
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PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: The BFG10k05:26
fekMabus06: of course05:26
Mabus06e-bum me one, gnomefreak05:26
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darkritualAny onne knows howto test my video card?05:27
fekcould that be the problem?05:27
fek        Option                "UseFBDev"                "false"05:27
feki don't use it05:28
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AIVwhen I go into "synaptic", I check the option that allows me to view disabled repositories, some say (source) and others (binary), which would I enable and why?05:29
lennart_what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work05:29
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PuMpErNiCkLefek: I don't think using/not using the kernel framebuffer would cause any difficulties, but you can try toggling it.05:29
trappistAIV: you only need source repositories if you're going to be downloading and rebuilding source packages, which isn't usually necessary.05:29
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AIVtrappist, is it best to enable repositories via synaptic, or by editing the file using gedit?05:30
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trappistAIV: either way is just fine05:31
Jowiqemu is quite a bizarre feeling to use. to have the winxp setup in a window in linux is... wierd :)05:31
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golanHi! Do you know any PHP script that can manage pictures without a DB (like Gallery)?05:31
golanor PHP software?05:31
gnomefreakAIV, i use gedit but its pretty much the same one graphical other is texted05:31
trappistgolan: I use mcpics05:31
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trappistgolan: but it's no longer maintained05:31
gnomefreak-ed05:31
golantrappist: what a pity05:31
golando you have any other suggestions?05:31
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trappistgolan: roll your own? ;)05:32
golaneheh good idea... but I have small time for it :)05:32
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gnomefreaktrappist, cant he pick up gallery and maintain it?05:33
trappistactually that's a good point, since I sort of did that :)05:33
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trappistI just fixed a few bugs and sent them to the author, but he never replied and has dropped the project.05:34
gnomefreaki figure the code is there change a few things and poof05:34
trappistgolan: if you're a php guy I can give you my modifications to mcpics and you can take over from there05:34
gnomefreaktrappist, that suckslol05:34
chmod775has anyone used art manager in ubuntu05:34
chmod775?05:34
gnomefreakchmod775, yes its gnome-art05:34
chmod775hey it does'nt work properly05:35
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gnomefreakchmod775, can you please explain that a bit more?05:35
irvinchmod775, works fine here05:35
kakeihi who can help me with this smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)05:35
golantrappist, I prefer finding a deb package or similar05:35
AIVthanks for your help05:35
golanbut thanks anyway05:35
chmod775when I want to download mouse themes or icons05:35
chmod775then it simply just hangs even after downloading and iinstalling05:35
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chmod775has that happened with you guys05:36
chmod775?05:36
gnomefreakchmod775, breezy? and how long are we talking about hanging?05:36
trappistgolan: apt-cache search thumbnail | grep php shows 'phpix'05:36
_xetWhy cant i play music in amaroK? Works in mplayer.05:36
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chmod775hang on I tried it long back05:36
chmod775lemme see it now05:36
chmod775hang on05:36
Jowichmod775: you can copy the icons straight into a folder in you $HOME/.icons directory. don't know about cursor themes though05:36
imperfectusAnyone know how I can make ubuntu stop checking for media in my damn DVD drive?05:36
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chmod775yes Jowi05:37
trappist_xet: what kind of music05:37
imperfectusIt's filling my dmesg with crap05:37
chmod775I am aware05:37
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golangood idea05:37
_xettrappist: mp305:37
trappist!tell _xet about mp305:37
gnomefreakJowi, you always have to do things the easy way lol j/k05:37
chmod775I click on install and then it hangs05:37
brimedoes anyone here know how to get usb runing on a laptop?05:38
Jowignomefreak: sorry :)05:38
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chmod775it's says it's downlaoding the file but it dodes'nt05:38
gnomefreakchmod775,  on breezy?05:38
chmod775yes05:38
_xetThanks.05:39
gnomefreakok completely remove it and re-install it but as for pointers and icons i dont use it for that but the re-install did fix that for me05:39
stark-johanWhere do I find my kernel.config (I wan t to check if I have a certain module compiled in the kernel or not)05:39
gnomefreakbut mine would crash sometimes too :((05:40
Jowistark-johan: /boot05:40
chmod775ok05:40
AIVI tried creating a launcher to the ubuntu wiki on my desktop, and in the command area I put the URL, but it doesn't work05:40
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chmod775then what's new in breezy05:40
ccookestark-johan: /boot/config-$(uname -r)05:40
AIVam I stuck on windows thinking?  is that the wrong way to do that?05:41
JoeBlowso does anyone here have any experience with loki?05:41
chmod775hey does anyone know how to install transparency for gdesklets05:41
chmod775?05:41
AIVI basically want a shortcut to the ubuntu wiki page on my desltop05:41
chmod775gnomefreak, ?05:41
AIVdesktop05:41
trappistAIV: drag the link from your browser to your desktop05:41
gnomefreakchmod775, new? breezy?05:41
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chmod775gdesklets?05:41
Jowichmod775: gdesklets are transparent by default05:41
CodenameKTAIV: in a way yes. windows defaults to IE for web pages but linux u will hafta do a command like firefox http://www.google.com05:41
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chmod775But I can't see the transparency05:42
chmod775?05:42
chmod775huh05:42
chmod775?05:42
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kameroni have an amd64 on a dfi board, and the install always messes up grub when it's on my mbr. i think it's my board. anyways. is there a way i can install the bootloader "by hand".. on knoppix or something?05:42
fekhttp://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/xorg.conf05:42
Jowichmod775: of course not. it's transparent :D05:42
fekwhat's wron with this config?05:42
feki build it up on the new config by dpkg-reconfigure and added my second screen05:42
chmod775I don't agree05:42
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chmod775gnomefreak, ?05:42
mwesomeone please tell me the output of ls /etc/rc2.d/| grep gdm05:42
mweI think mine is wrong, starting gdm to early05:43
Jowimwe: i could if i had gdm installed05:43
gnomefreakchmod775, i dont use gdesklets05:43
ccookemwe: gdm starts at position 1305:43
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yanishello05:43
chmod775in ls /etc/rc2.d will give the files in /etc/rc2.d dir05:43
epaulyhhi05:43
jendahey yanis05:43
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chmod775then grepp gdm will find the gdm file05:43
chmod775or dir05:43
stark-johanccooke > what does the letters mean (y=yes I guess) m = manually? I'd like better parallell port support.05:43
chmod775mwe, ?05:43
ccookemwe: also, ls /etc/rc2.d/*gdm is a 'cleaner' way of doing the lookup05:43
Jowistark-johan: m is module05:44
fek hello?05:44
julioHi05:44
mweccooke: yeah maybe05:44
julioI did the download of ubuntu 5.10 yesterday05:44
ccookestark-johan: y means it's built into the kernel directly, m means it's built as a module.05:44
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julioand i want install the WINE05:44
fek hello?05:44
epaulyhhow do you get to other servers?05:44
stark-johanJowi > So "m"s are active?05:44
gnomefreak!wine05:44
mwechmod775: yeah. I needed to know the default startup number for gdm05:44
julioi downlload the of wine in one site05:45
fek...05:45
Jowistark-johan: yep, if the module is found during startup :)05:45
juliobut it doesnt function05:45
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julioxD05:45
gnomefreakubotu tell julio about wine05:45
chmod775default startup, mwe05:45
monyetzhow can i seeting my router,so that i can watch sap tv on vlc ?05:45
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chmod775?05:45
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julio!wine05:45
epaulyhoh well05:45
AIVwhen I drag the link from my browser it creates a txt like doc with the link written out, but not a hyperlink05:45
juliohow gnome freak:05:45
chmod775what do u mean by that mwe05:45
jendawhat's wrong with ubotu05:45
chmod775?05:45
AIVand the launcher just does'nt work05:45
chmod775!hi05:45
ubotuhi!05:45
Madeyeguys, what is ubuntu-desktop package ?05:45
stark-johanJowi > And "is not set" are not present or possible to install without recompiling the kernel?05:45
julioHi ubotu05:45
mcscruffHi, im haveing trouble running a java app can someone help Please http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/49190205:45
julioCan you help-me with the wine or cedega?05:46
gnomefreakjulio, read waht ubotu sent you05:46
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wizardjameswhats a good and EASY ftp server to setup and get ready?05:46
gnomefreaki use neither thank god05:46
CodenameKTAIV: make a launcher with the command firefox http://www.____.com05:46
juliook05:46
_robzonhi all05:46
yanisI installed xserver to an 'server install' ubuntu but some vital components are missing. for example when I startX It doesnt run XDM....shouldnt all these be just ok?05:46
Jowistark-johan: i guess that "not set" is for the options that has been skipped during compilation time05:46
chmod775!wine05:46
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_robzonI get this error on MANY packages (downgrading from dapper do breezy): libgnome2-0: Depends: libgnome2-common (= 2.12.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.13.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed05:46
ccookeMadeye: It's a virtual package ( it has only dependencies, no files) which depends on everything necessary for a standard ubuntu desktop system05:47
juliognome05:47
greenpenguin13evening all05:47
epaulyhif i want to get to a specific irc channel but when i click on it says "irc is not a registered protocol" what do i do?05:47
julioit not it..05:47
Madeye ccooke well, I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and now it want to install 550 MB!05:47
Sturgeonepaulyh: what client are you using?05:47
fekwhat's wrong with this config? http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/xorg.conf05:47
ccookeMadeye: sounds about right.05:47
epaulyhclient?05:48
Jowistark-johan: "not set" is the same as N in make menuconfig. make will cause all options with N/Not set to be ignored.05:48
Madeyeccooke, but i already have most of packages05:48
CodenameKTepaulyh: u can install a firewall extension to handle irc chat in fox otherwise u need a client05:48
epaulyhhow do you find that out?05:48
ccookefek: that's not very helpful - what's going wrong, and what symptoms do you get?05:48
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CodenameKTepaulyh: firewall = firefox05:48
Madeyeccooke,  I have all of the packages, so why it requesting them again05:48
ccookeMadeye: apt thinks you don't, though. There could be many reasons why05:48
wizardjameswhats a good ftp server..  ?05:49
juliognome05:49
yanisI installed xserver to an 'server install' ubuntu but some vital components are missing. for example when I startX It doesnt run XDM....shouldnt all these be just ok?05:49
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ccookeMadeye: is this a new install?05:49
Jowiepaulyh: you need an irc plugin for firefox in order to use it to connect to irc.05:49
CodenameKTepaulyh:if u install the extension it will make it so when u click on your links to chat rooms it will use it's chat client to connect to irc05:49
juliognomefreak, i have error with the wine05:49
Madeyeccooke, ccooke  no it's not new install05:49
julioi put the WINEINSTALL in /tools/wineisntall05:49
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stark-johanJowi > Sounds logical, thanks.05:49
ccookeMadeye: what version of ubuntu?05:49
AIVCodenameKT, that did it, thank you05:49
fekccooke: i tell it the hunderd time.... i upgraded from hoary to breeze... after a reboot the X starts up and i only get a green screen05:49
CodenameKTAIV: no prob05:49
Madeyeccooke, breezy05:49
julioand the install.. but my progans dont function05:49
julioI have the cs 1,6,exe!05:50
ccookefek: have you tried reconfiguring X?05:50
juliobut he dont get05:50
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Madeyeccooke, 2.6.12-10-68605:50
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epaulyhhow do you install the extension?05:50
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Madeyeccooke,  and it's a laptop if it does matter .05:50
CodenameKTepaulyh: open firefox05:50
epaulyhok05:50
Jowistark-johan: if you have a look in the config you will also see that all the options that "is not set" is also commented out.05:50
fekccooke: yes... via dpkc-reconfigure the local tft starts up perfect. but when i add my second screen to xorg.conf.. it will breake05:50
juliodo i need get the WINE 0.9.0.5.deb:05:50
julio?05:50
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CodenameKTepaulyh: go to tools extensions and then the link at bottom right get more extensions05:51
kameroni have an amd64 on a dfi board, and the install always messes up grub when it's on my mbr. i think it's my board. anyways. is there a way i can install the bootloader "by hand".. on knoppix or something?05:51
ccookeah, so it's a multi screen issue. Which graphic card?05:51
juliotem algum brasileiro aqui?05:51
CodenameKTsearch the extensions on web site for irc and dl a client then restart firefox05:51
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ccookeMadeye: so, why are you doing an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?05:51
Jowi!tell kameron about grub05:51
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hikenbootDr_Willis thanks once again I am about to install synaptic...but i want to figure out how to get a dependancy list from apt-get...05:51
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julioALGUM BRASILEIRO AQUI?05:51
ccookeMadeye: If you already have a working install, you wouldn't normally need to.05:52
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kameronty jowi05:52
Madeyeccooke, one of the packages required it to be installed05:52
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Dr_Willishikenboot,   apt has soo many tools/options and theres several dozen docs/howto/guides :P  i just cheat and uyse synaptic05:52
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juliowho know how install IMULE:/05:52
julio?05:52
ccookeMadeye: apt takes care of dependencies for you, you don't need to do it manually05:52
kameronjulio: is it java?05:52
khermansAnyone know how to convert video for use on the iPod?05:52
CodenameKTjulio: is that a phile sharing program?05:52
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone05:52
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epaulyhthanks05:53
kameroncodenamekt: it is05:53
ccookeMadeye: so, what were you trying to install? why can't you just install that package using apt?05:53
fekccooke: it looks like this: http://www.paperfrog.de/images/medium/20-tuerkis.jpg05:53
juliono05:53
cathey how can i installed nxclient05:53
julioits is EMULE05:53
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juliobut for LINUX05:53
undre6kHey I wanna write to my NTFS partition with ubuntu, will I have any problems?05:53
CodenameKTkameron: uhm uhm uhm r u trying to download music05:53
CodenameKTepaulyh: no prob05:53
khermansundre6k, yes there is no safe way to do that05:53
kameronjulio: emule isn't p2p? i'm sure it is.05:53
kameroncodenamekt: im not interested in emule, julio is05:53
CodenameKTkameron: uhm uhm uhm julio is05:53
PuMpErNiCkLekhermans: Yes there is, but you need the 2.6.15 kernel - it's a new feature.05:53
khermanskameron, FrostWire is the best p2p05:53
Madeyeccooke, hmm ok I'll cancel the download05:54
julioyes.. EMULE is p2p!05:54
khermansPuMpErNiCkLe, it is safe?!?!05:54
fekccooke?05:54
ccookefek: Very nice. What graphic card do you have?05:54
PuMpErNiCkLekhermans: Within a few limits, yet.05:54
PuMpErNiCkLe*yes05:54
FieldySnutshello, new ubuntu user, but experienced in linux in general. how can I get nxclient installed? I uncommented a few repositories, updated, but apt-cache search nxclient shows nothing.05:54
fekccooke: intel 855gm05:54
julioyes im interested in emule05:54
kameronjulio: i don't know about emule, i'll look into it for you. i have limewire installed though.05:54
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juliobecause i want the CEDEGA 5.005:54
khermansjulio, use FrostWire05:54
juliowho have??05:54
CodenameKTbittorent is the best p2p then any wires or mules or donkeys or kazaas05:54
juliohm.. ok05:54
chmod775hi05:54
julioHey men, who have CEDEGA 5.0??05:54
SturgeonFieldySnuts: did you look in packages.ubuntu.com ?05:54
Jowitell FieldySnuts about seveas05:55
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Jowi!tell FieldySnuts about seveas05:55
Jowihehe05:55
kameroncodenamekt: obviously bt is the best ever. but it's so bandwidth hungry. and sometimes you just want one song, not the album.05:55
juliowho can send-me the CEDEGA 5.0?05:55
JowiFieldySnuts: FreeNX05:55
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ccookefek: Ah. Never used one of those. What you want to do is search google for i855 multi-screen help05:55
kameronjulio: that's kind of illegal.05:55
khermansCodenameKT, p2p is bad -- use binary newsgroups05:55
ccookeunless anyone here knows?05:55
jendaCodenameKT: Azureus rules IMO :)05:55
julioSorry05:55
chmod775!Fieldysnuts05:55
ubotuchmod775: I give up, what is it?05:55
FieldySnutshang on one thing at a time :) thanks for the suggestions05:55
ccookejulio: cedega isn't very expensive05:55
gnomefreak!cedega05:55
ubotucedega is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/05:55
CodenameKTkameron: troo troo.05:55
julioI dont talk about it more ok?05:55
CodenameKTkhermans: newsgroups cost no?05:55
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juliobut im brazilian.. i cant send my money to UNITED STATES05:56
CodenameKTthat defeats the purpos05:56
khermansCodenameKT, so what -- you download at full speed05:56
khermansCodenameKT, $15/month05:56
gnomefreakjulio,  as for wine i dont think you read those pages i found support pages for it all over the place05:56
CodenameKTkhermans: im a college student05:56
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FieldySnutsnope, not freenx either. let me read that factoid.05:56
fekccooke: but it worked before i upgraded to breezy05:56
khermansCodenameKT, the ability to have whatever you want instantly?!?!05:56
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CodenameKT15/month breaks into beer costs05:56
yanisdamn ubuntu 5.10!there is no x-window-system package!!05:56
khermansCodenameKT, so am i05:56
Durbanhow do I use a .run file?05:56
Sturgeonyanis: huh?05:56
khermansDurban, ./foo.run05:56
ccookefek: you've installed new versions of the drivers.05:56
JowiFieldySnuts: freenx should be available on the seveas repos05:56
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CodenameKTkhermans: Isn't there limits too on newsgroups?05:56
juliognomefreak05:57
jendaDurban: sudo sh file.run05:57
khermansCodenameKT, not if you pay and it is 100% anonymous05:57
ccookefekj: Some things will haqve changed.05:57
julioyes i read! im download the wine 0.9.5.deb05:57
fekccooke: and i am searching since 4 hours...05:57
khermansCodenameKT, you can use Ninan for downloading05:57
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darkritualSome one type: glxgears05:57
CodenameKTkhermans: well 15/month isn't bad05:57
yanisSturgeon: it doesnt05:57
darkritualIn terminal05:57
gnomefreakjulio, http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/Main_Page05:57
evahi05:57
juliohm..05:57
khermansCodenameKT, newzbin.com and usenetserver.com05:57
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kameronjulio: join channel #blahboom05:57
juliook05:57
CodenameKTkhermans: I'll look into it more thnx05:57
evahello05:57
Sturgeonyanis: what is it that you're looking for?05:58
Durbani have it on the desktop, so i type sudo sh install.run , but it tells me No such file or directory05:58
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evahow are you05:58
Jowidarkritual: are you having problems with glx?05:58
darkritualJowi, i don't get the amount of FPS05:58
yanisSturgeon: I want to install the whole X window system right...05:58
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Jowidarkritual: you need to type in a switch for that05:58
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jessica__i need help with kubuntu please05:58
lowman62obouy05:58
Sturgeonyanis: didn't you follow a default installation?05:58
Sturgeonif you did so, it should be already installed05:59
yanisSturgeon: I want to have 'server install'05:59
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lowman62lol05:59
lowman62then you don't need x05:59
Sturgeond'uh05:59
[-SiO-] can i add extra RAID (fakeraid) drivers at ubuntu's installation?05:59
Durbanjenda: i have it on the desktop, so i type sudo sh install.run , but it tells me No such file or directory05:59
CodenameKTjessica_ :speak05:59
[-SiO-] if so how can i do that05:59
jessica__i have no sound-when i go to kmixer i dont see nothing for me to select in the current mixer option-the volume icon have an x on it like if its muted but when i log in to ubuntu the sound works05:59
yanisaa!!! I do... I just dontn want GNOME!!!05:59
jendaDurban: sudo sh ./Desktop/install.run06:00
jessica__CodenameKT, look above06:00
fekccooke: http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_frm/thread/35a09e870a0364ba/fdb5cf443a522014?lnk=st&q=intel+855gm+xorg+dual+screen+problem&rnum=2&hl=de#fdb5cf443a52201406:00
Jowidarkritual: "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"06:00
lowman62right next to me is a server box...no gnome..no x...just a server box LOL06:00
Durbanjenda: ty. that worked06:00
CodenameKTjessica_: so ur saying sound doesn't work unless u boot x?06:00
jendaDurban: np06:00
jessica__yeah only when i sign to gnome06:00
darkritualJowi, its for Video card drivers06:01
jessica__not under kde06:01
yanislowman62:so tell me how to have a clear system without all the gnome crap...06:01
CodenameKTjessica_: it doesn't work in kde?06:01
Jowidarkritual: "glxgears -printfps" also work06:01
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yanislowman62: and just have MY Windom MANAger06:01
jessica__it worked the very first time i installed kubuntu but then it stopped working06:01
darkritualBright one thnx jowi06:01
jessica__yes it works in ubuntu gnome but not in kubuntu kde06:01
ccookefek: There's not a lot I could do to help - I've never used that card06:01
Ngyanis: either do a normal install and put a different desktop on, or do a server install and add on the desktop bits you do want06:01
CodenameKTjessica_: ouch, u got me stumpped06:01
Jowidarkritual: but it's much more fun typing "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"06:01
jessica__i have searched but no luck06:02
lowman62yanis: dunno...I just installed two boxes...one server and one default...i have no probs and that is that :P06:02
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darkritual4602 frames in 5.0 seconds = 920.355 FPS06:02
darkritual4527 frames in 5.0 seconds = 905.228 FPS06:02
yanisNg: THe problem is with the 'packaging' of the xserver/x-window system...06:02
darkritualyep it worked Jowi06:02
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yanisNg: it doenstn install it right!06:02
darkritualwhy jowi?06:02
kameron!tell julio about apt06:02
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Jowidarkritual: just because :)06:02
CodenameKTjessica_: if it works in ubuntu when u sign on gnome why do u need it for console?06:02
darkritualits the same06:03
darkrituallol06:03
Jowilol06:03
Seveas!goodmorning06:03
ubotuGooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)06:03
Ngyanis: it looks right to me, why do you think it's not right?06:03
jessica__because i use kde and my brother uses gnome06:03
gnomefreaklol06:03
kameronjessica_: wait.. you're saying. girls use linux?06:03
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jessica__thats why we did both installs-06:03
yanisNg: man, tell me what package to install to have the X window system..?06:03
jessica__well i do06:03
kameron:P cool06:04
CodenameKTkameron:lol06:04
kameronjust joshin06:04
jessica__i love linux06:04
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CodenameKTseveas: maybe u can help jessica with her problem06:04
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djstis it just me or are every gdesklet display broken?06:04
Ngyanis: X is made of lots of packages06:04
FieldySnutsdjst: what version of hal or hald are you running?06:04
e_machinistHaving the Linux kernel image as an upgradeable package is so strange...06:04
djsti installed gdesklet in ubuntu and visited gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org and tried a number of desklets06:04
djstnone of them work as advertised06:04
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CodenameKTI gotta go to court06:05
djstalways errors about missing controls and stuff06:05
Jowidjst: gdesklets have never worked well since they started the project06:05
kameronem06:05
FieldySnutsdjst: ack, ignore me, i am confused (thinking I am in another channel), sorry06:05
Ngyanis: you could try xserver-xorg and x-window-system-core, but I'm not sure if that will pull in everything required06:05
kamerone_machinist: i know hey. i still compile from source. just feels right :P06:05
whyameye! restricted formats06:05
uboturumour has it, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'06:05
djstJowi: what's the point of having a cool desktop project that never works??06:05
yanisNg: of course I know that. *but* with 5.04 apt-get install xserver made the whole job06:05
ildegar_apt-get install x-window-system will install everything you need + tons of stuff06:05
yanisNg: it dont pull all the required :/06:05
Jowidjst: exactly the right question.06:06
e_machinistkameron: I agree... although I suppose it is nice having multiple kernel choices in the boot loader... heh.06:06
Ngyanis: *shrug* start looking at apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop and see what else you think you might want, or just install ubuntu-desktop and remove bits you don't want06:06
Jowidjst: gdesklets have been having crashes and flukiness for the past two years06:06
kamerone_machinist: true, true06:06
djstso it's the same for everyone? then why are desklets authors publishing their cool desklets, if no one can get it to work? surely there must be some distros that have this working?06:06
yanisNg: ubuntu desktop installs gnome????06:06
kamerondjst: have what working?06:06
kameronyanis: yes06:07
Ngyanis: correct06:07
stylespyanis: get xorg-common06:07
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ildegar_i guess it's not a matter of a distro06:07
djstfor example: "No Control could be found for interface ITheSimpsonsQuote:eie5d13c5x9nkzr28hvab4bo7-206:07
djst/home/djst/.gdesklets/Displays/TheSimpsonsQuote/TheSimpsonsQuote.display06:07
djst"06:07
vbgunzUbuntu doesn't come with a calendar application able to keep appointments and set reminders correct? I would have to download Sunbird or something equivalent?06:07
djstand it's always like that... nothing ever works if you install a desklet06:07
Ngvbgunz: Evolution06:07
kameronvbgunz: i'm not sure. that only calendar program i use is "cal" :P but it's very basic.06:07
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e_machinistvbgunz: Evolution software package.06:07
yanisstylesp: I do have that package too- but I xdm isnt configured right for example06:07
djstNo Control could be found for interface INewsGrab:48m60psf7xjr2nbbkjcdewmsa06:08
djst/home/djst/.gdesklets/Displays/SideCandyRSS/sc_rss.display06:08
yanisstylesp: moreover it didnt install even xterm06:08
vbgunzEvolution is an email suite isn't it? Could I just use the calendar without it interfering with Thunderbird?06:08
djstRuntime Error06:08
djst/home/djst/.gdesklets/Displays/SideCandyRSS/sc_rss.display06:08
djstkameron: no matter what desklet i try to install, i get those error messages06:08
djstand all desklets report they installed "successfully"06:08
seicherlbobanybody ever installed ati-drivers on a laptop?06:08
kamerondjst: what is a desklet?06:09
Jowidjst: try the one from the repos. they work but only just.06:09
Ngyanis: you could try xubuntu-desktop, which just installs xfce instead of gnome06:09
stylespyanis: dpkg --reconfigure xdm? or whats wrong06:09
djstJowi: ok06:09
e_machinistseicherlbob: no... but it shouldn't be different than the regular way.06:09
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djstkameron: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/06:09
yanisNg: ohh.that's more cool06:09
Jowiyanis: kubuntu-desktop installs kde06:09
ildegar_kameron, for instance it's a little "window" which shows you the temperature of your cpu06:09
seicherlbobe_machinist: Just took me 30 minutes to recover the original state again.06:09
yanisstylesp: I'll try it06:09
kameronohhh.06:09
kameronlike.. that gnu program. what's it called. i used to run it.06:09
e_machinistseicherlbob: what was the problem after you installed? The official ATI or the FGLRX drivers?06:10
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cajunis installing ubuntu before xp to set up a dual boot system difficult?06:10
seicherlbobe_machinist: FGLRX stuff from ati-website06:10
stylespyanis: dpkg-reconfigure xdm, ups06:10
gnomefreakcajun, yes06:11
gnomefreakinstall windows first make it alot easier06:11
e_machinistseicherlbob: did you try just installing the xorg-fglrx package?06:11
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e_machinistfrom the repositories?06:11
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ishDo I gain or lose anything by using the AMD64 release on my AMD64?06:11
seicherlbobe_machinist: i run the script that told me i should run the config afterwards and then restart the machine. i did so and messed it up.06:12
kamerongnomefreak: it's not any harder to do it the other way around. just have to mess with the bootloader.06:12
kameronish: it's a great release.06:12
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seicherlbobe_machinist: or should i apt-get it or something?06:12
e_machinistseicherlbob: one sec...06:12
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gnomefreakkameron, that makes it harder than just doing install :))06:12
kamerongnoemfreak: okay, okay, you're right :P06:12
phreak97hey, is there any chance i could use a windows driver via wine?06:13
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: not really06:13
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AIVwhatis the name of the repositories file?06:13
PuMpErNiCkLeAIV: /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:14
tyler_anyone can help me.. i install gift p2p.. but cannot connect to the networks? why?06:14
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ishkameron: Can you still download and run 32 bit binary only apps?06:14
e_machinistseicherlbob: go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:14
phreak97i really want to be using ubuntu as my primary, but i just got a wifi dongle for my ds, and its windows only06:14
e_machinistFollow those instructions.06:14
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tarequehi everyone06:14
kameronish: mmm. not sure. haven't tried it? they include binaries for almost every package that is for 32bit.06:14
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ishwell, definetly worth trying I guess.06:15
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kameronyep06:15
gnomefreakish,  if im not mistaken you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit kernel06:15
kameronwhat binary do you want o try?06:15
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tarequei have got 4 computer .  and i want to have central login for those machines...how do i do it?06:16
kamerontareque: what do you mean by "central login" ?06:16
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phreak97ugh06:16
gnomefreaklike log-in to all of them from one log in screen?06:17
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phreak97is a network bridge hard to set up under ubuntu?06:17
kameronlog in to every computer from one screen?06:17
Dr_Williswants them to sync their password lists and user homes to be one palce reguargless of which pc the user logs into?06:17
phreak97i have two network cards in my pc, ill build a server for nintendo wifi if its the only way06:18
tarequei mean to have program or something with which i can manage the login information in one machine and people will be able to access it any other machines06:18
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ManifoldGuys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today..06:18
Durbandoes anyone know a good program for making iso files, i have all the files of a disk in a folder,and i need to make a cd of them06:18
kamerondurban: there's a program right in the kernel to do that06:19
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tarequekameron: i mean to have program or something with which i can manage the login information in one machine and people will be able to access it any other machines06:19
gnomefreak!iso06:19
ubotuit has been said that iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto06:19
Manifold!alsamixer06:19
ubotuManifold: Are you smoking crack?06:20
Manifold!alsa06:20
ubotumethinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206306:20
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Durbankameron: whats it called,or how do i access it?06:20
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thegladiatoris memtest an infinte loop?06:21
Ngyes06:21
tarequekameron : to be more specific i mean a server where all the login information will be managed06:21
thegladiatoris there any way I can see the log fro the desktop ?06:21
kamerondurban: i'm looking it up for you. it's something like mkisofs -9660 or something.06:21
thegladiatormy memtest didnt go perfect06:21
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ManifoldGuys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today..06:21
madewokherdI don't thyink memtest writes anything06:21
madewokherdto anywhere06:22
Durbankameron: ok, that will be great06:22
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PuMpErNiCkLethegladiator: that's a bad sign06:22
thegladiatorwhen memtest is doen are we expected to get a clean result ?06:22
PuMpErNiCkLethegladiator: yes06:22
thegladiatorlike it was doing test over and over ...06:22
thegladiatorso I thought in the previous parsing , ti could have found an error06:23
madewokherdwhen it's done, it starts again from test 106:23
PuMpErNiCkLethegladiator: Not necessarily.06:23
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thegladiatorwhich didnt come up next time .... something like that06:23
tarequekameron: are you clear ? now?06:23
thegladiatorah06:23
PuMpErNiCkLethegladiator: It just randomly picks write patterns until you stop it.06:23
kameronDurban: mkisofs -J -R -o filename.iso /some/directory06:23
vbgunzDamn... I really dislike when an email client (Evolution) does not allow changing the from address on the fly... that stinks :P06:23
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madewokherdI wonder if we're talking about the same thing..06:23
thegladiatorso when you do a memtest86 you get no results dow in the bottom ?06:23
thegladiatorclean ?06:23
PuMpErNiCkLethegladiator: yes06:23
kamerontareque: umm, let me read up06:23
madewokherdI do06:23
Storkwhy can't my rythmbox play .m3u files?06:24
Durbankameron: ty06:24
thegladiatormy memory is just a year old06:24
gnomefreakvbgunz, thunderbird has less problems that evolution :)06:24
thegladiatormercury i guess . its get bad this fast . thats bad sign06:24
Storks/that/then06:24
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thegladiator256 DDR06:24
Storko rly?06:24
gnomefreakthegladiator, is the memory mixed?06:24
PuMpErNiCkLethegladiator: Try for warranty-replacement?06:25
kamerontareque: not really?06:25
tarequekameron : its like .. computer labs in university or school where one computer has all the info and everyone else can access it with after login in..06:25
symtabwhy is the default evince configured not to show in menu?06:25
thegladiatormixed ? it has video memory also06:25
kamerontareque, so like... yeah. gotcha. a samba file sever?06:25
thegladiatorafaik06:25
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thegladiatordo they replace mem alone , i dont know06:25
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seicherlbobe_machinist: ok, restarting. lets see if this helps. Thx so far06:25
vbgunzgnomefreak: I prefer Thunderbird...06:25
thegladiatori have to ask the dealers about that06:25
gnomefreaksymtab, can you enable the menu item for it in smeg?06:25
gnomefreakme too vbgunz :)06:26
reiki_workI know this will have to go to off-topic, but does anyone here have experience connecting linux to a WANG VS system?06:26
gnomefreakthegladiator, i meant like if you have 2 mem sticks are they both the same kind06:26
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thegladiatorgnomefreak, i wonder if you remember the discussionwe had on my mem , seems like firefox , amarok etc shuut down randmnly due to this06:26
Storkwhy can't my rythmbox play .m3u files?06:26
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symtabgnomefreak, didnt check, but i'm sure i can (or edit the desktop file directlty)06:26
kameron!tell tareque about samba06:26
thegladiatorits a single 256   DDR06:26
thegladiatornot add on type of06:26
JowiStork: can it play normal mp3 for you?06:27
symtabi was curios why it doesnt show in the menu with a default ubuntu install06:27
Dr_WillisStork,  i was thinking a .m3u was a playlist. ? or am i confused.06:27
StorkJowi, i'll check06:27
StorkDr_Willis, yes, it is06:27
tarequekameron: i do not mean a file server but like something like Active Directory in windows...!06:27
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thegladiatorbut amazingly KDE deals with memory segfaults better than gnome does06:27
gnomefreaksymtab,  just use menu editor and put a check mark in box if its in htere and i think it is but cant remember06:27
puslingis there a way to get tomcat running on hoary using package manager to install it ?  or should I rebuild debian stuff myself ?06:27
thegladiatori have had almost zero seg faults under KDE06:27
gnomefreakthegladiator, my box will beep at me if the mem is bad lol06:28
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thegladiatorlol , is that cinfigured that way ?06:28
thegladiatormayb i shud give a try to set something...like that and see06:28
nekohayoanyone knows how the "connect to server" item in the "places" menu is called? which application can I file bugs on?06:28
kamerontareque: i don't know what active directory is06:28
gnomefreakthegladiator, its the bios it runs mem test before boot06:28
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Dr_WillisStork,  could be they just decided it was not a very needed feature. or it may be reading them and converting them to its own playlist-listing06:28
thegladiatori see06:29
tarequekameron :  i do not know much about linux since i am new at it but i need to know this stuff to get some task done06:29
titanium_platypuhow come my clock synchronization service keeps getting unchecked all the time?06:29
gnomefreaki dont know if this box does it my other one does though06:29
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JowiStork, Dr_Willis, i was under the impression, or guessed, that gsteamer0.8-mad handled both the mp3 and the m3u part. maybe i'm mistaken06:29
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gnomefreakJowi, i think you are right06:30
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Storki think so, i just installed that06:30
gnomefreak!mp306:30
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:30
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cello_rasphi, what do people use for wireless network browsing? i ask because kismet doesnt seem to work too well06:30
gnomefreakthat will tell you if thats all you need is msd06:30
gnomefreakmad06:30
JowiStork: I'm only aware that xmms can handle m3u. haven't tried with rhythmbox06:30
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Dr_WillisJowi,  m3u is just a text file as far as i know.. of songs.. nothing fancy to it.06:30
chris_I'm having a problem with my gfx card06:30
Storkawesome, i'll get that then :p06:30
chris_it's a software problem06:30
thegladiatorwhich card chris_ ?06:31
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thegladiatorstate the name of the card06:31
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gnomefreakgfx=nvidia or ati?06:31
chris_ati radeon 920006:31
JowiStork: if rhythmbox plays mp3 fine then I guess it is just not supporting the m3u's :)06:31
Storkokay :)06:31
JowiDr_Willis: that's what i thought as well06:31
JoeBlowok, when somoene has time, I installed loki installer, and the quake 2 demo, but when it run the quake 2 demo, the window opens real fast and then closes06:31
gnomefreakubotu tell chris_ about ati06:31
chris_i previously had x86-64 linux installed and it worked then06:31
kamerontareque: i'm still not sure what you want to accomplish.06:32
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gnomefreakatleast that is what i got out of it06:33
computinchuckhi, i'm trying to compile gtkpod with aac support under 5.10 and i have all the dev packages installed, but the configure script says it can't find mp4.h when its in /usr/include06:33
thegladiatorgnomefreak, whats ur bw ?06:33
gnomefreakbw?06:34
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thegladiatorbandwidth i mean06:34
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gnomefreaknot sure since i moved :((06:34
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yanisisnt supposed when I install Xwindows the system start in Xwindows and not in console?06:35
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gnomefreakyanis, on a server install i dont think so i think you have to make gdm default06:36
earalphi am new to ubuntu06:36
earalphand need some help06:36
gnomefreakor kdm or whatever06:36
deFrysk!help06:36
benplautanyone know how to disable tab-to-click on a synaptic touchpad?06:37
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yanisgnomefreak: I have xdm06:37
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thegladiatorearalph, ask , this is the place for it06:37
ranceearalph, ask your question, if someone knows, they will answer06:37
sternersonIssue: Wireless PCMCIA adapter, pcmcia bus lists in device manager, driver installed via ndiswrapper. No LED activity on card. Any hints?06:37
cameronanyone know the command to remove a symbolic link?06:37
Jowiyanis: see if xdm is in /etc/rc2.d06:37
gnomefreakyanis,  than you would need to make that default but sisnce you did server install i dont know how to set that up06:38
ubuntu_could anyone tell me how to setup a secure terminal services session using SSH from one ubuntu box to another, 5.10 btw06:38
ManifoldGuys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today.. Ideas?06:38
earalphi am wondering what the sys req on ubuntu is - i have a couple of "OLD" pcs that i want to turn into a small scale private http server and mysql server06:38
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Storkhow do i configure xmms to be my default music player?06:38
sternersonearalph, define old06:38
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yanisJowi: yet it is! AND when the pc boots it seems to try to start xwindows but I think it fails06:38
NgStork: right click on an mp3 and choose Properties, there's a tab you can use to set the default handler for that file type06:38
earalphpentium 250 - 500mHz 64mb RAM06:39
StorkNg, ok, thanks06:39
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yanisso the problem is at xdm...06:39
Jowiyanis: i *think* you cd /etc/init.c and run "sudo update-rc.d xdm defaults"06:39
Storkearalph, i have you beat - i have a pentium 1 with 32mb ram and a 400mb hdd06:39
ManifoldGuys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today.. Ideas?06:39
Jowiyanis: did you configure X after you installed it?06:39
sternersonearalph, hmm. Runing on a Celeron 800 with 128mb ram without issues. If you only want to run terminal and not use too much graphics, there shouldn't be any problems!06:39
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godzzoHi!06:39
Jowiyanis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:39
yanisJowi: yes yes yes!!!06:40
techone    ok so I go to places and select Home or Computer and then I get a little clock and note on the bottom bar that says Starting Home or Starting Computer and then in about 30 secs both disappear without further complaint and then nothing06:40
ranceI love putting old comptuers like that to work, linux is a dream just dont install X and it will run on darn near anything06:40
yanisJowi:  i did before06:40
godzzoHow can I copy a damaged file from DVD (only want to ignore the bad blocks...) ?06:40
earalphi just want it to sit there and server some php pages backend with mysql06:40
techonewhat can cause this kind of problem06:40
Jowiyanis: try to run "sudo xdm" from the console and check the errors06:40
earalphat most 5 hits per min06:40
ranceearalph, that will work06:40
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Ngtechone: try running "nautilus" from a terminal06:40
Ngtechone: see if it spits out any errors06:40
earalphok thank you06:40
sternersonearalph, no problem06:40
paladinewzcould anyone tell me how to setup a secure terminal services session using SSH from one ubuntu box to another, 5.10 btw06:40
seicherlbobshouldn't "mount -a" be run at startup?06:41
Storknoooo06:41
Dr_Willispaladinew,  you mean other then just 'ssh remotebox' ?06:41
techone(nautilus:29190): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.06:41
techone        Using the fallback 'C' locale.06:41
techoneI had a problem like that yesterday with firefox06:42
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Dr_Willispaladinew,  theres dozens of ssh howto/document/tutorial sites out that show all sorts of neat ssh tricks.06:42
Storki have some shortcut keys on my keyboard (such as stop, pause, play, forward, backward -- for music) how can i configure them to work?06:42
kameronreboot, bbl06:42
thegladiatortechone, a build essential problem ?06:42
Ngpaladinewz: "ssh -L12345:localhost:5900 some.computer.com" will make port 12345 on your local machine connect to port 5900 (the default port used by gnome's desktop sharing service) on the remote machine, via the tunnel, so then you'd just point a vnc viewer to localhost port 1234506:42
Jowi!info hotkeys06:42
ubotuhotkeys: (A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.5.7.3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 141 kB, Installed size: 380 kB06:42
yanisJowi: where will I find the error logs of xdm??06:42
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StorkNg, what's a desktop sharing service?06:43
techonethegladiator, as in essentially i have a build problem or are you asking if I had any problems during build?06:43
seicherlbobCU guys and thx again for your help!06:43
Jowiyanis: the errors should show in the terminal you run xdm from. otherwise /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:44
NgStork: you can configure the desktop so you can control it from a remote PC06:44
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY06:44
yanisJowi: they arent in the terminal I will check xorg06:44
NgStork: System->Preferences->Remote desktop06:44
Jowiyanis: /var/log/xdm.log as well06:44
StorkNg, oic06:44
madewokherdI have a .desktop file that I want to add to my gnome menu06:44
madewokherdis there an easy way to do this?06:44
rancehas anyone setup ubuntu on a deadhead box (no monitor, mouse, keyboard) to allow X connections from a computer that does have those things06:45
darkritualany one knows howto install java on ubuntu?06:45
Jowi!tell darkritual about java06:45
seliniumubotu tell darkritual about java06:45
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vbgunzanybody having problems updating there mozilla extensions? I've been trying for so long to update my extensions and I am always stuck with the previous version? What in the world could be happening? This is really beginning to get annoying... Anybody have any ideas? Anyone else experiencing this?06:46
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yanisJowi: there is no %/xdm.log. moreover theresint even the word xdm in the Xorg.log!!06:46
PuMpErNiCkLesweeeeeeet06:46
seliniumping ajmitch.....06:47
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Ngxdm wouldn't log to X's log anyway06:47
Ngtry syslog06:47
PuMpErNiCkLeI just set the login manager to play Gandalf's "You shall not pass!" whenever someone puts in a bad password. :D06:47
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sternersonAnyone with any PCMCIA knowledge?06:47
ubuntu_qualcuno parla italiano?06:47
techoneshite I go to the ubuntu.com site and some how the search button is not active06:47
selinium!it06:47
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:47
ubuntu_ok grazie06:47
brimecan anyone help me with usb?06:48
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brimegetting err " unknown filesystem type 'usbdevfs'06:48
brime "06:48
_theohas anyone here succesfully compiled a 2.6.15 kernel??06:48
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Jowiyanis: that's a bit wierd.06:49
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techonehow can I fix this completely  "Locale not supported by C library." do I need to reinstall C libraries or a complete reinstall with format06:49
Jowiyanis: did you install xdm or xdmx ?06:49
Seveastechone, neither06:49
yanisJowi: xdm..06:49
yanisJowi: I did it by hand though. it didnt come wint xorg06:50
Seveastechone, just make sure your locale is correct (play around with system -> admin -> language selector)06:50
ManifoldGuys, I can enable four channel support in the GNOME volume control, but not the alsamixer (using the terminal), what's up with that?06:50
Jowiyanis: did Xorg.0.log show any errors?06:50
techonereally06:50
Jowiyanis: yeah, you installed it with apt-get ?06:50
techonewell I'll take a look06:50
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Seveastechone, if it does not work: put the output of locale -a and locale on the pastebin06:51
yanisyes Jowi06:51
Mabus06how come rhythmbox keeps skipping through files instead of playing them? my codecs are installed, other media players can play the same files...06:51
rich_njithello all, I am looking for a tutorial on setting up ubuntu on a mirrored ide setup, using 2 drives with lvm, googled for tutorials but still having trouble06:51
techonek06:51
yanisJowi: I thought it was comming with xorg...like xterm for examle...06:51
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yanisJowi: xterm didnt come too06:51
Jowiyanis: then it should work automaticly. i've installed it like that without probs. but after i did i always run dpkg-reconfigure. no xterm is its own package06:51
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Jowiyanis: maybe you forgot to install some xserver components06:52
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wontezhello Im trying to get my dvd player to play dvd's and I'm having all kinds of problems any ideas I already installed the css library06:52
techoneso default language is english canada and none of the languages above are selected even english is not selected06:52
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alexissofthi06:53
techonecrap nautilus did not exit from the terminal - just sitting in the terminal but no gui06:53
Jowiyanis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LowMemorySystems06:53
techonectrl-c06:53
lowman62wontez: try mplayer along with the w32codecs06:54
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sovvy2009hello all06:54
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Jowihello sovvy200906:55
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ManifoldGuys, I can enable four channel support in the GNOME volume control, but not the alsamixer (using the terminal), what's up with that?06:55
sovvy2009lol06:55
cameronanyone know why ndiswrapper wouldnt read the sources I installed?  I provided the link to em and everything, and it just wont work06:55
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Storkmewierd06:55
Storkmemy vncviewer just stopped accepting the remote clients keyboard types06:55
Storkmeand also, how do i exit out of a vncviewer session06:55
kemikquick question; can linux with its crappy driversupport use TV-out *and* Dual monitors ?06:55
C-O-L-TI need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format06:55
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JowiStorkme: F8 -> quit06:55
Storkmenvm done the exit06:55
lowman62lol sovvy2009 there are a few I would love to b!tch slap with a large trout LOL :P06:55
C-O-L-T I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format06:55
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sovvy2009lol lowman6206:56
C-O-L-T I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format06:56
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Storkmewoo06:56
Storkmei'm on vncviewer06:56
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Storkmeconnecting to the pc right next to me06:56
techonemaybe there is some hd corruption http://pastebin.ca/3587606:56
Storkmethat's how lazy i am06:56
C-O-L-T I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format06:56
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wontezlowman62, where are the w32codecs?06:57
lowman62sovvy2009: :O a windows computer...hurry install ubuntu and use a trout for the desktop background :P06:57
C-O-L-T I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format06:57
sovvy2009lol06:57
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JoeBlowok, when somoene has time, I installed loki installer, and the quake 2 demo, but when it run the quake 2 demo, the window opens real fast and then closes06:58
techonehmmm maybe I can use fschk to do some kind of surface test on the hard drive06:58
lowman62wontez: I know they are available with apt-get or synaptic but I personally got mine from the mplayer web site06:58
C-O-L-T I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format06:58
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lowman62wontez: what the file is called through synaptic I am not sure06:58
techoneSeveas, did you get to see my pastebin ?  http://pastebin.ca/3587606:58
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brimecan anyone tell me why I dont have anything in my /proc/bus/usb dir?06:59
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arthurubonjour06:59
arthuruj'ai un gros problme06:59
wontezlowman62, I just searched syn with w32 and didnt see them06:59
lowman62does anyone know the name of the w32codecs file using synaptic or apt-get?06:59
arthuruj'aurais besoin d'aide06:59
D-rockColt: http://dvd-slideshow.sourceforge.net06:59
arthuruoooooooops06:59
arthurui'm going to join ubuntu-fr, sorry06:59
sternersonAnyone with any PCMCIA knowledge?06:59
lowman62wontez: try it like this *w32* and see that helps06:59
wontezlowman62, still nothing07:00
ManifoldGuys, I can enable four channel support in the GNOME volume control, but not the alsamixer (using the terminal), what's up with that?07:00
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D-rockHas anyone else had problems with the e100 driver?07:00
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lowman62wontez: here let me try and see if I can find it for you...would it bother you to install them manually? cuz I can get you the link for it from mplayer web site07:01
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wontezlowman62, I suck at manual install07:01
Dr_Willis!w32codec07:01
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:01
wontezlowman62, last time I tried I gave up and re formatted lol07:01
JoeBlowcan anyone help me with loki installer07:01
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D-rockFor anyone who was on earlier, I've run 3 clean passes of memtest86 and I've rebooted into recovery mode07:02
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  you said the game isntalled but dident run eh?07:02
lowman62wontez: all it is ..is making a folder and puting an untar package in it..no biggy but hold on i will see if i can find it for you07:02
D-rockI rmmoded the e100 driver and the laptop seems to be fine now07:02
darkritualproblem: darkritual@DarkRitual:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin bash: fakeroot: command not found07:02
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dsonchello you all! I send this one to garnome yet, but nobody answer me,  so i hope anoyone can help me: try to install garnome 2.13.4 on my ubuntu 5.10, but when compiling libtool~ the process stopped: "cannot creat exectable files".07:02
JoeBlowDr_Willis: the window for the game opens real fast then closes, if i click it a few times it opens and freezes without diplaying anything in the window, and the only way to close it is restart07:02
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Dr_Willisdsonc,  you need the gcc compiler and stuff installed - yave you installed 'build-essentials' yet?07:03
jesperhow do i make ubuntu use the PS/2 mouse instead of the mouse on my laptop?07:03
D-rockI'm going to back up my home partition and try badblocks on the hard disk now, but it seems to be much happier without the e100 module loaded :(07:03
Kindreddarkritual, apt-get install fakeroot07:03
stoneagebinutils!07:03
madgik85wontez if u want w32 codecs you can find out an easy install here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:03
D-rockjesper: it should use both07:03
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  rember this trick.. "run the thing from a shell terminal and watch the eror messages' dont just click :P07:03
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jesperD-rock: can't use the ps207:03
Paradoxxhmm, what do you all think about linus's statements about gnome vs kde??07:03
darkritualthnx Kindred07:03
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  most likely its some sound or video issue.07:03
dsoncgcc package is installed yet, i have to verify build-essentials, il try it! thanks07:04
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JoeBlowDr_Willis: so sh quake2.exe?07:04
D-rockHmmm, I haven't used an external PS/2 mouse in a while, just usb07:04
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Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  quake2.exe ? where did ya get a .exe from?07:04
idefix_why are there so many files in the dev directory?07:04
techonei would have to agree with Linus that a fear based approached to development is simply the wrong way to go07:04
JoeBlowDr_Willis: oops, sorry07:04
JoeBlowDr_Willis: no exe07:04
idefix_can you mount all those devices?07:04
Dr_Willisidefix_,  a file for every device :P07:04
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  could just try ./quake207:05
techoneafraid of scaring the end user is wrong07:05
D-rockjesper: just to be sure, you've verified the mouse on another machine, right? :)07:05
Dr_Willisidefix_,  not every device has a file system that is mountable.07:05
lowman62wontez: here ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb07:05
Paradoxxtechone: how does gnome go about doing this, i have never noticed?07:05
idefix_Dr_Willis, do you get payed to answer people here?07:05
Dr_Willisidefix_,  how you going to mount say yur USB mouse. :P07:05
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Dr_Willisidefix_,  i just hang out.07:05
meborcis there a special chat-room for DAPPER users?07:05
techonebut ont the flip side one should use what works best from them07:05
Paradoxxtechone: and i consider myself a 'poweruser' if one exsists..07:05
Dr_Willisit keeps me out of trouble.07:05
bipolardoes anyone know if the latest kernel in dapper fixes the fglrx driver crash?07:05
idefix_but there are hundreds of files in the dev directory07:05
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Dr_Willisidefix_,  correct.. proberly 1000+ of them07:06
bipolarmeborc: I don't know of one.07:06
lowman62wontez: here is a tutorial on it as well http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#video07:06
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techoneParadoxx, unless you are involved in some gnome development with the gnome developers you would not have access to their development descisions07:06
PuMpErNiCkLeidefix_: A lot of them are virtual devices.07:06
D-rockidefix_: it creates files for CLASSES of devices, not just physically present devices07:06
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D-rockSo, for instance, I have a ton of /dev/hd* device files, for every IDE disk and parition, even though I only really have hda and hdb07:06
PuMpErNiCkLeidefix_: ie, ttyp4 is a virtual terminal... it may not exist physically, or even be in use, but it's there07:07
meborcbipolar: thanks... it seems from the forums, that the latest kernel adresses the fglrx problem, but is still unstable07:07
Paradoxxtechone: i c....but then how does that limit functionality?07:07
techoneend users are not supposed to notice such things07:07
Dr_Willisi just have /dev/hd* for the hd's i got.07:07
luk3 hey does anyone knows where can i download some nice documentation about ubuntu?07:07
D-rockidefix: especially terminals. You'll have tons of pty files, although usually they get put into a subdir07:07
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JDahlwhat's the difference between kubuntu dapper and regular ubuntu dapper with kubuntu-desktop installed?07:07
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Dr_Willisluk3,  ubuntu homepage?07:07
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luk3yup but07:07
khermansIs python installed on Breezy by default?07:07
darkritualdarkritual@DarkRitual:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin07:07
darkritual/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found07:07
D-rockDr_Willis: sorry, with Ubuntu it uses udev, so it should only show drives you have07:08
techonebecause gnome hesitates to add features if deemed potentially to scary for the non-techie user07:08
JDahlkhermans, yes, it's used for lots of system tools07:08
bipolarmeborc: cool. then I'm going to reboot and try it out :)07:08
luk3i mean the whole thing altogether07:08
D-rockI was thinking older distros07:08
Dr_WillisD-rock,  :P07:08
luk3like in one single manual07:08
Paradoxxtechone: features like what?07:08
lowman62khermans type python at the console Ctrl-D to get out07:08
Paradoxxtechone: if you don't mind me askin07:08
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Dr_Willisluk3,  considering most of the docs are in a wiki format.. it changes daily07:08
idefix_so, it is possible to run a remote terminal with linux07:08
luk3sure07:08
meborcbipolar: good luck... although i don't know if it fixes u'r prob07:08
D-rockidefix: yup07:08
idefix_luk3, someone can operate my PC?07:08
Dr_Willisidefix_,  what do you mean by 'remote terminal'07:08
PuMpErNiCkLeidefix_: If you let them, yes.07:08
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khermansJDahl, i was just wondering because I want to create a tool for beginners -- can they just click on the file and .py files are associated with python by default?07:09
luk3haha funny!07:09
khermansi dont have a clean system to test07:09
JoeBlowDr_Willis, /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2: /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2: cannot execute binary file07:09
techoneim not explicitly a developer nor a fan of desktops , I play around more with servers and terminal windows but07:09
idefix_if I don't let them they'll just hack my PC07:09
luk3jerk!07:09
D-rockidefix: not usually, unless you've disabled your firewall07:09
lowman62khermans: you still have to give them executable permissions07:09
D-rockand ignore update messages07:09
PuMpErNiCkLeidefix_: Good luck to them... it's harder than you think :)07:09
khermansso, if i put a .py file on my website, and a user downloads it on a new install of Breezy, double-clicking the file will run it without a user prompt?07:09
JDahlkhermans, almost - put "#!python " in the top of your python script07:09
JoeBlowDr_Willis, any ideas?07:10
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D-rockkhermans: or better yet, "#!/usr/bin/env python"07:10
khermansJDahl, oh sure -- i do that anyways07:10
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bipolar#beam me up07:10
dsoncDR_Willis, you are the man!  Thansks for help me and regards from Brazil!07:10
lowman62Khermans: what D-rock just said is correct07:10
bipolarerr... I need focus follows brain....07:10
rahulleris there any package recover of rar archive passwords?07:10
luk3who else is from brazil?07:11
techoneso I did not track specific gnome issues or complaints but if a better/cleaner/tighter program comes along, gnome will not consider it for a long time because of the policy to minimize change to end users07:11
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  may want to see if theres a Q2 wiki page - Q2 is quite old - and there may be a lot of little issues07:11
rahulleris there any package for recovery of rar archive passwords?07:11
JoeBlowDr_Willis: I use sh to run it right?07:11
luk3dsonc?07:11
techonesay for instance a better firewall manager07:11
khermansrahuller, you can use an exploit to get the data if you want07:11
Storkmm, beer07:11
JowiJoeBlow: You got the original Q2 ?07:11
khermansrahuller, i think there is a way to unencrypt the data without the password07:12
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  perhaps.. it all depends..  look at the file and see if its a bash shell.07:12
JoeBlowDr_Willis: no, this i just the demo07:12
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  perhaps.. it all depends..  look at the file and see if its a bash shell script07:12
lowman62beer??? errr am thirsty now07:12
JoeBlowDr_Willis: it says its a binary file07:12
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luk3wuz up idefix_07:12
luk3what are ya doin??07:12
techoneParadoxx, pros and cons to everything, many people are annoyed when they have to learning something different or new07:12
rahullerkhermans, do u know how its done? i have my documents backed up in it :(07:12
dsoncyes luk3.. i chatting from Sao Paulo/Brazil.07:12
luk3nice!07:13
luk3i am at goias right now!07:13
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Paradoxxtechone: kk, ty much m807:13
idefix_luk3, well, linux is supposed to be the future, so I'm trying to work with it07:13
techoneParadoxx, and now I hear gnome has been working on a new graphics engine, but I expect it would be under the hood as opposed to a notable gui change07:13
luk3how long have ya been running ubuntu ?07:13
Terrasqueanyone have a place I can host a .deb?07:13
JowiJoeBlow: I installed the quake2 from the repos, then the original Q2. then copied the files to the .quake2/baseq2 dir. that's it.07:13
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luk3you betcha!07:13
idefix_maybe two months07:14
darkritual@Jowi srry to pm you but how can i use the bot to find things out for my own :)07:14
techoneSeveas, did you get to see my pastebin ?  http://pastebin.ca/3587607:14
dsoncluk3, falou meu velho, um abrao07:14
JoeBlowJowi: I used loki and installed the demo, it installed, but when I click quake 2, it freezes instantly, so im trying to run it in shell, but i dunno how07:14
luk3outro!07:14
luk3ate +!07:14
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JowiJoeBlow: i never used the loki installer07:14
Paradoxxtechone: kk m807:14
Jowi!info quake207:14
ubotuquake2: (improved version of id Software's Quake II engine), section multiverse/games, is optional. Version: 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1240 kB, Installed size: 3144 kB07:14
JoeBlowJowi: then how do you do it?07:15
Seveastechone, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales07:15
Seveastechone, and make sure en_CA.UTF-8 is selected07:15
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JowiJoeBlow: i just told you how. with the original game that is07:15
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lowman62well dvd time woop woop..cya'all laterz woop woop07:15
luk3idefix_ where are you from?07:15
JoeBlowJowi, I have the orginal cd, how do i run the setup?07:15
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madgik85If any one can help, I am using Rhythmbox to play mp3 files but when I try it give an error "Could Not Open Resource For Writing". The music plays fine if I use Totem though. Any Help would be appriciated?07:15
balster_nebHi, does anyone know where i can find alsaconf on ubuntu?07:15
techoneSeveas, im concerned that this is an indication of larger issues like data corruption perhaps during a crash or hang or power reset or bad drive07:16
jahshua--hey i just downloaded a movie with bittorrent and its like 93 individual .rar files .. how do i put them all together to make it one ... movie07:16
idefix_the Netherlands07:16
jahshua--heh07:16
JowiJoeBlow: you need to extract the baseq2 data from the cd by installing the game. you can use wine to install.07:16
luk3do you consider yourself a hacker?07:16
idefix_and you?07:16
idefix_no way!07:16
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luk3brazil!07:16
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idefix_I would like to be one though07:16
julioHi07:16
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua--: LOL07:16
Seveastechone, doesn't look like it07:16
idefix_can you teach me?07:16
idefix_I think hacking is a teamsport07:16
juliowho can help-me isntalling one DEBIAN PACKAGE?07:16
jahshua--pumpernickle :p07:16
Seveasidefix_, -ETOPIC - somewhere else please07:16
JoeBlowJowi: thanks for the help, but i have no luck with wine bro, already tried it07:16
luk3do ya?07:16
Seveas!tell julio about deb07:16
JowiJoeBlow: oh07:17
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luk3what OS are you running?07:17
JoeBlowJowi: I put setup.exe in the add programs, and then when i did wine setup.exe it wouldnt find it07:17
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julioSeveas07:17
luk3ubuntu?07:17
Storkfor the love of god someone help me natively install quake407:17
julioI do what the Ubotu said07:17
techoneso  en_CA.UTF-8 is already selected but I suppose this will regenerate the files07:17
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Seveastechone, yes07:17
JowiJoeBlow: you should just "wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe"07:17
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juliobut dont function... the sudo says of the archive dont exist.. but it exist!07:18
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Seveasif it does not, then there's something wrong07:18
JoeBlowJowi, let me try real fast07:18
Kindredwow you haven't given up on quake yet..07:18
jahshua--pumpernickle help me out :)07:18
Seveasjulio, did you type the complete path?07:18
Daveydidn't they release linux binaries for Quake2? :)07:18
juliowait a moment.. i will send you the error07:18
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PuMpErNiCkLejahshua--: gfslicer, maybe?07:19
JDahlCan parted also shrink ext3 partitions? I want to play around with dapper without nuking my breezy installation07:19
JowiJoeBlow: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Quake-HOWTO-3.html (read the installing from cd part)07:19
balster_nebHi, I wasn't able to find any alsaconf installed in my ubuntu system07:19
idefix_but Seveas... topic can change slightly over time, can't they?07:20
balster_nebAnyone know how I can get it?07:20
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julioseveas.. se the error in the Pvt07:20
shekharhello can someone help me with sound problems?07:20
Seveasidefix_, topic in here is Ubuntu support, nothing else preferably07:20
idefix_ok07:20
PuMpErNiCkLeJDahl: I think so, but it can't resize mounted partitions.07:20
julioseveas,, see the error07:20
Storkcan anyone help me natively install quake4?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11254707:20
juliojulio@martinez:~$ sudo dpkg -i wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb07:20
juliodpkg: erro processando wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb (--install):07:20
julio impossvel acessar arquivo: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado07:20
julioErros foram encontrados durante processamento de:07:20
julio wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb07:20
techoneSeveas, ok so that seemed to work properly but nautilus still wont start from the link in Places but it ran from the terminal07:20
Storkjulio, pastebin damnit07:20
jahshua--pumpernickle: i was told if i extract the first file it will all end up as one big video file but that doesnt sounds right ?07:21
jahshua--sound*07:21
JDahlPuMpErNiCkLe, cool, I would resize during the installation anyway07:21
cyphasewhat do you guys think about the idea of including ndis drivers for wireless cards in ubuntu?07:21
Manifold!gstreamer07:21
ubotuManifold: Are you on ritalin?07:21
Manifold!gstream07:21
ubotuManifold: Bugger all, i dunno07:21
PuMpErNiCkLejahshua--: Try it and see - it can't damage it.07:21
StorkWOO FOR RITALIN07:21
PuMpErNiCkLeGO RITALIN07:22
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balster_nebHehe, 666 people in the channel07:22
balster_nebah, now 66707:22
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RedGhostback to 66607:22
RedGhost:D07:22
RedGhostits a sign ;p07:22
Paradoxxidefix_: see pm i sent you07:22
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techoneyeah even after running nautilus from terminal it still wont start from Places07:22
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idefix_Paradoxx, did you send me more than one?07:22
shekharhello can someone help me setup a sound server?07:22
balster_nebDoes anyone have any idea about alsaconf?07:22
JoeBlowJowi, i put wine /home/brian/Desktop/Quake2/Setup.exe07:23
JoeBlow , and it does nothing07:23
idefix_Paradoxx, I answered the first one07:23
Dr_Willisbalster_neb,  check the alsa wiki pages yet?07:23
Dr_Willisbalster_neb,  or fire up synaptic and searc/install it.07:23
Paradoxxidefix_: i didn't get the reply07:23
cyphasei don't think having 50 drivers installed with ndiswrapper wuld cause a problem.. :P07:23
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  you do realize theres a native port of Quake2 to linux. and you dont need to use the windows version.07:24
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cyphasetechnical problem*07:24
JoeBlowDr_Willis: I gotta get this wine bussiness down for my other games07:24
JowiJoeBlow: 1. "cd" 2. "mkdir .quake2" 3. "cd .quake2" 4. "cp -r /media/cdrom/Install/Data/* ." 5. "sudo apt-get install quake2" 6. "quake2"07:24
AIVafter I run apt-get update07:24
AIVI see where it says get07:24
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AIVdoes it both download and apply?07:24
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foampeaceello07:24
AIVor just download?07:24
Dr_WillisJoeBlow,  ive basicially given up on wine/cedega and games.. its a big hassle.07:24
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KindredAIV, it just updates your sources07:25
jahshua--can someone tell me the command to unrar a folder full of .rar files  please ?07:25
foampeacemight someone suggest a better more developed way to pppoe07:25
Dr_WillisAIV,  update - resyncs/updates the apt database.. 'upgrade' then07:25
cameronanyone good with source problems?07:25
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KindredAIV, to actually download you have to apt-get upgrade07:25
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Dr_Willisjahshua--,  try      unrar -e '*'               ( note the quotes '  )07:25
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Dr_Willisjahshua--,  or use find and some extra options.07:26
TerrasqueDr_Willis, I play WoW on ubuntu :) And as long as that works im happy07:26
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AIVok07:26
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  that game BARELY works for me.. silly mouse issues.07:26
symtabis there any boot-configurion program available (gui)?07:26
JoeBlowJowi: it worked!!! thanks07:26
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  of course ive goten burnt out on WoW07:26
cyphaseCan everyone give me model numbers of wifi cards that don't work under Ubuntu?07:26
Storkmehow can i set up the shortkeys on my keyboard to work with XMMS ?07:26
Kindredsymtab, bum07:26
TerrasqueDr_Willis, it works with good framerates, no bugs, and even sound via alsa here :)07:27
AIVshould all apps be closed when doing updates?07:27
poimensomeone 8sing flyght07:27
poimen???07:27
JowiJoeBlow: that old quake2 is great. play it over and over again07:27
cyphaseAIV, doesn't matter07:27
symtabKindred, bum is the name of the program?07:27
polpakAIV, it doesnt' matter07:27
idefix_Paradoxx "I don't think so"07:27
symtab:)07:27
foampeacepppoe is working. But pppoe was hard to get working.07:27
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aj9gwho is the cheapest registrar for .com's?07:27
symtabi mean grub configuration gui07:27
TerrasqueDr_Willis, I only started playing WoW half a year ago, so not burnt out yet.. :)07:27
Kindredsymtab, unfortunately yes :P07:27
symtabnot init scripts07:27
Kindredsymtab, ah okay.07:27
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foampeaceaj9g: theres too many, shop around07:28
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Dr_WillisTerrasque,  I got on when it started.. I remember when  the AH's were Empty! :p07:28
Paradoxxidefix_: kk, m807:28
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JoeBlowJowi: my favorite multiplayer game07:28
cameronAnyone here have any idea how a source could be installed and yet not configured?  Im really having trouble with this07:28
TerrasqueDr_Willis, WOW! :D Impressive07:28
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Dr_WillisTerrasque,  and i was in the beta befor that.07:28
aj9gfoampeace, who do you use?07:28
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albackerI get this error when trying to ./configure glade : http://pastebin.com/492093 can someone help me ? please ?07:28
foampeaceaj9g: domainsatcost.ca07:28
idefix_well, that's just prime, I scan some pictures and I cannot edit them because I'm not the owner07:28
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  heh - its gotten to be the same old stuff sadly.07:28
aj9gthanks07:29
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Seveas!tell albacker about compiling07:29
TerrasqueDr_Willis: anyway, I've made a deb of the patched wine if you're interested :)07:29
polpakalbacker, why not just use apt?07:29
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  i got Cedega :p07:29
foampeaceaj9g: domainsatcost.com?07:29
cameronAnyone?07:29
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poimenplanet mirror is down?07:29
albackerpolpak, i theres and old version of glade in the repos.07:29
TerrasqueDr_Willis, cedega I gave up long time ago :)07:29
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  i just reboot to windows  much less hassle.. I got linux on a biox in the back room as my Main Linux box heh heh07:29
albackerSeveas, can you help me to get the package i need?07:30
idefix_Dr-Willis, you are being extremely altruistic07:30
foampeaceaj9g: its .ca07:30
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  Games - are  somthing Im about to give up on ;)07:30
symtabi know there is a program called grubconf but it's not available in ubuntu07:30
idefix_just hang out here to help people with their problems for 0 $'s/hour07:30
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  been playing City of Villians however.07:30
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AIVI remember that a while back I tried to mess around with mandrake a little, and during install you had to create these different partitions, like /, var, home, etc07:30
AIVnow07:30
JoeBlowJowi: is it supposed to take ar eally l ong time to install?07:30
Dr_Willisidefix_,  i also work 2nd shift..  :P so i will be gone soon.07:30
cameronAnyone here good with sources?07:30
TerrasqueDr_Willis, wise choice giving up on games. WoW currently take too much of my time :(07:30
AIVby letting ubuntu autopartition07:30
AIVit just creates / and swap07:30
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  too much time doing mundane things.07:30
idefix_I'm free tomorrow!! \o/07:31
Seveasalbacker, the wikipage explains it07:31
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AIVwith etc usr and home etc being directories07:31
JoeBlowdamn, installing with wine is slooooooowww07:31
JowiJoeBlow: yeah, it is pretty big. several hundreds of megabyte07:31
AIVwhere can one study the purpose of these directories?07:31
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  when ya spend 30+ min of your play sessions just  running around and twiddling at the AH and BANK.. ...07:31
JoeBlowJowi: on windows it was near instant07:31
AIVlike I want to know what the var directory is for07:31
balster_nebDr_Willis: I haven't been able to find anything about alsaconf, and I can't find it on the repositories. I looked in main, restricted, universe and multiverse07:31
AIVetc etc07:31
balster_nebIs it suppose to be installed by default?07:31
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polpakAIV, check out the filesystem heirarcy standard07:31
Dr_Willisbalster_neb,  i hear people asking abouit it.. but ive never had to mess withit. sound worked fine for me from the start07:32
definityis there a program that is for konsole and is basic network tools07:32
definity??07:32
idefix_Paradoxx, I'm not registered so my messages are blocked07:32
polpakAIV,  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/07:32
Paradoxxidefix_: oh ok, lol, y don't you register then :P07:32
TerrasqueDr_Willis, I got it even better! on stormreaver we use 30+ minutes just getting the character lists! And 2 out of 3 times we even manage to go into the game before we disconnect07:32
albackerSeveas, ive downloaded most of those packages ! but i think i need a newer version or smth like that  "Package requirements (libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.1 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met."07:33
balster_nebDr_Willis: Thanks, I'm still trying to get my sound working in Breezy :S07:33
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Dr_WillisTerrasque,  yep. the whole MMORPG scene is neeing to be shook up.07:33
Seveasalbacker, libxml2.0-dev07:33
balster_nebI guess i'll ask in the forums07:33
idefix_is it expensive to register?07:33
Seveasalbacker, libgtk2.0-dev07:33
Dr_Willisidefix_,  its $007:33
cameronAnyone here who could help me with a sources problem?07:33
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Dr_Willisidefix_,  /msg nickserv help07:33
kemikcameron:  ask your real question instead07:34
TerrasqueDr_Willis, and I still pay blizz :( oh well.. At least I can use linux now :)07:34
Dr_WillisTerrasque,  my brother plays my account more then i do07:34
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Dr_Williswedll bbl07:34
cameronI need to configure my source, as ive installed it, but apparently its not configured...07:34
definityis there any basic network tools for konsole07:34
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definityi got some but there all GUI07:34
julio!tell juli about tar.gz07:34
londonboi2k3hi guys, I am looking to install dapper, todays daily build, which is downloading, but where can I find a changes list of the changes?07:35
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julio!tell julio about cpkg07:35
julioHey mans07:35
juliohey men07:35
juliohow can i install07:35
julioone archive CPKG???07:35
cameronkemik any ideas?07:36
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kemikcameron:  i dont quite follow.. trying to compile a program +07:36
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Seveascpkg?07:36
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Seveaswhat's the filename?07:36
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julioyes..07:37
londonboi2k3another question goes unanswered,07:37
definityis there any basic network tools for konsole07:37
polpakloll07:37
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yanisis there any package that contains some important x apps  of xorg like xdm,xterm,xclock++ ???07:37
Seveas!tell julio about cedega07:37
cameronkemik: a program im installing requires that my linux source be installed...  I installed it using my package manager, but apparently it wasnt configured correctly as the program cannot see the source, even when I provide the path to it.07:37
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sergesorry, I'm looking for an ubuntu french chanel... ?07:37
Seveasjulio, ubotu sent you some hints07:37
Seveas!fr07:37
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais07:37
sergethanks07:38
Lie-AlgebraHi, I am using a different keyboard layout than qwerty, How can I tell grub to switch to it (azerty)? (I need it because of the grub password I have just set up..)07:38
Jowiserge, va a #ubuntu-fr07:38
JochenHey people! adept is broken on my system. Any way to repair it?07:38
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Seveas!fr =~ s/et #/ou #/07:38
ubotuSeveas: OK07:38
kemikcameron:  you apt-getted "linux-headers-($uname -r)"  ?07:38
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cameronkemik: yep07:38
juliohey men... how can i install one archive TGZ?07:38
juliocedega_5.0.2-1.i386.p2p.tgz07:38
zAo^julio, you should get the .deb :$07:39
zAo^julio, you can by unpacking it (file-roller) and compiling it but...07:39
kemikcameron:  hmm.. not sure what todo then07:39
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juliohm.. no no.. i will get the DEB07:39
D-rockDoes anyone know what the best channel would be for discussing a possible kernel module bug?07:39
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DaveyD-rock, #kernel ?07:39
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D-rockDuh07:40
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cameronkemik: kk :(07:40
fredytrying to install kubuntu-desktop, but latest kamera depends on libgphoto 2.1.6-1ubuntu6-1 , but synaptic only recognizes libgphoto 2.1.6-1ubuntu6.  how can i get breezy to install latest version of libgphoto?07:40
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yanisahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh07:40
cameronHmm... on seccond thought, I may have the wrong headers...07:40
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Seveasyanis, that must have felt quite good...07:40
Storkorly?07:41
DRK13YA RLY07:41
DRK13lol07:41
yaniswhy isnt there any x-window-system PAckage in 5.10??????????????????????????????/07:41
yanisit's vital!!!!07:41
Jochenadept is trying to remove something, that isn't on the system anyway and stops07:41
Seveasyanis, x-window-system-xore07:41
Seveascore*07:41
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yanisSeveas: after a 'server install' if I install that do you think I will have a basic X system???07:42
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Seveasyes07:43
yanisSeveas: including twm for example?07:43
definityis there any basic network tools for konsole07:43
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yanisSeveas: and xterm ?07:43
JochenHallo... is there nobody who can help me?07:43
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Seveasno, neither07:44
zAo^what is it Jochen ?07:44
cmatheson_Jochen: just ask your question07:44
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symtabhello again...any ideas where i can find gaim-2.0 packages for ubuntu?07:44
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yanisSeveas: neinther of the apps?07:44
ryancasimirohelP!07:44
JochenADEPT is broken07:44
zAo^symtab, only in CVS..07:44
cmatheson_!tell Jochen about questions07:44
ryancasimirowhat is the symbol for "not equal"07:44
Jowiyanis: you need to install xterm and a wm seperatly07:44
JochenADEPT is trying to remove something from the system that doesn't exist anymore on the system07:44
ryancasimiroin programming07:45
symtabzAo^, so only way is to build gaim from sources?07:45
zAo^ryancasimiro, != of <>07:45
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zAo^symtab, yes, I did so too07:45
zAo^or *07:45
yanisSeveas: Jowi I am *sure* that in 5.04 I had install 2 packages (xorg +xfs) and I had all of them07:45
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ryancasimiroso, do i type "!= of <>"? the whole thing?07:45
pixelmonkeyis evolution not playing well with spamassassin in latest breezy?07:45
ryancasimiroi tried != and it didnt work07:45
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zAo^ryancasimiro, no :) sorry, just: !=         OR         <>07:46
Seveasyanis, in breezy xorg fell apart in tons of packages07:46
kraftwerk_The sidebuttons on my mouse aren't functioning correctly, any ideas?07:46
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Spyhi07:46
definityis there any basic network tools for konsole?07:46
yanisSeveas: oh!!that the reason!!!07:46
saifcable07:46
JochenNo idea?07:46
SpyCan any1 give me a link to a tutorial from installing from hard disk07:46
saifinternet through cable07:46
Jowidefinity: ssh, telnet (ewww), ftp07:46
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Spyor if sum1 could help me with the error i get when installing from disc07:47
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sergeHow can I activate administrativ task in web cups ?07:47
zAo^kraftwerk_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MX1000Mouse?highlight=%28mx1000%2907:47
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Jowidefinity: also rsync, wget, elinks. (if by konsole you mean a terminal)07:48
zAo^Spy, what error?07:48
kraftwerk_thx07:48
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Spycannot initialize inittrd check var/log/boot.log07:49
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Zedmanwhat version of cdrecord works fine with ubuntu?07:49
djsthelp! my gdm broke :(07:50
djstgdm keeps restarting07:50
SpyzAo^: I got it to pass last time by manually setting up the partitions but i cant seem to get it 2 work07:50
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djsti can login to x by using startx manually, but gdm constantly restarts after  ~ 1 sec07:50
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nomatstry sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:51
SpyzAo^: This is the one it says it has a problem with initrd.gz (at about 85% of installing base system)07:51
rich-hello all.. d/ling ubuntu for my first try! =D07:51
Spynomats: ME?07:51
xaerich-: good luck07:51
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__filip_Hello, i have some problem to mount my hda6. I whant my hda6 to be automounted and i know i should write something in /etc/fstab but dont what. my hda6 filesystem is ext3 and it should be mounted to /mnt/hda6. My user(filip) should be abel to read in it. Somebody know what it is i should write?07:51
rich-xae: was that a good "good luck" or sarcasm?? hahah07:51
xaerich-: ... im still fighting with it :p (its not liking my system setup / windows)07:52
rich-xae: ahh.. hopefully ill be ok.. single OS load. Been having issues with ArchLinux so i went looking around =D07:52
Spyfilip : Have you checked : http://ubuntuguide.org/07:52
Madeyeany idea how to get out of this deb hell http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/665707:52
SeveasSpy, don't recommend that crap07:52
__filip_Spy: No07:52
Seveas!ubuntuguide07:52
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead07:52
xaeuhm whats "Error 15" in the grub loader mean?07:52
Seveas__filip_, good, keep it that way :)07:53
xae!error15?07:53
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, xae07:53
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Spyhehe, that crap helped me to get my ntfs mounted07:53
__filip_Seveas: Hehe :>07:53
xaehrm07:53
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djstnomats: i've tried restarting, removing, reinstalling, and reconfiguring gdm07:53
djstnothing works07:53
AIVthanks07:53
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AIVIm reading up on it nw07:53
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djsti've tried posting in the ubuntu forums without luck07:54
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Seveasdjst, what's the problem?07:54
djsti'm out of ideas :(07:54
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djstSeveas: gdm starts, but closes after ~ 1 second07:54
djstSeveas: X works using startx, but gdm doesn't07:54
Seveashmm07:54
djstdon't know what's wrong, no error messages07:54
Seveastried purging gdm?07:54
djsti've tried apt-get remove gdm07:54
djsti've tried reinstaling07:55
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Seveastry apt-get remove --purge gdm07:55
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Seveasand then reinstall it07:55
djstwhat's the difference?07:55
Seveasremove leaves configfiles07:55
Seveasremove --purge gets rid of them07:55
Madeyeany idea how to get out of this deb hell http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/665707:55
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djstSeveas: but the normal remove gets rid of the whole /etc/X11/gdm folder07:55
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Seveasdjst, there's /etc/gdm.conf too :)07:56
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Seveas(and maybe more)07:56
Jowihow do I use gcc3.x temporary for this session instead of 4.x?07:56
SeveasJowi, export CC=gcc-3.407:56
ryancasimiro./create.sh: line 20: [: =: unary operator expected07:56
ryancasimiro <- can someone explain this?07:56
JowiSeveas: cheers!07:56
__filip_Seveas: I can only find information how to mount Windows partition not ext307:56
ryancasimirowhat does the error mean?07:56
ryancasimiro:D07:56
Seveasryancasimiro, put the script on the pastebin07:56
djstSeveas: ah! :)07:56
djstSeveas: i'll try it then07:56
TerrasqueSeveas, you always answer before I get the chance.. :)07:56
Seveas__filip_, mount /dev/yourdrive /path/to/mountpoint07:56
ryancasimirowhats a pastebin?07:56
ryancasimiroim sorru, im still a beginner07:57
Seveas!tell ryancasimiro about pastebin07:57
ryancasimiroi just started 2months ago07:57
ryancasimirohaha07:57
pixelmonkeyso evolution + spamassassin works for everyone here, it's only me with the issues?07:57
Spyfilip : Ur fstab should already have entites mounting ext3 (ur boot and root) so perhaps open it and check07:57
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djstSeveas: if there's gdm.conf there, why is there another gdm.conf in the folder X11/gdm?07:57
Seveasdjst, symlinks I guess07:57
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Seveasbrb07:57
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__filip_Seveas. Thanx07:57
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ryancasimiroplease help me!07:57
Madeye===Error. The following diversions still exist:07:58
Madeyediversion of /etc/cron.daily/find to /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate by slocate07:58
Madeye===============================================07:58
Madeyedpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_2.7-4_i386.deb (--unpack):07:58
Madeye subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 107:58
MadeyeErrors were encountered while processing:07:58
ryancasimiroi need it for my project07:58
Madeye /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_2.7-4_i386.deb07:58
MadeyeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:58
Madeyeany idea07:58
djstSeveas: but then you'd think the /etc/gdm.conf one is the symlink.. right? so the config should have been removed anyway07:58
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guzuhello all07:58
echeeseHi07:58
echeeseI've never used ubuntu07:58
echeeseor linux for that matter07:58
ryancasimirohi! help me! please!07:58
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echeesebut I'm getting it for the first time07:58
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djstSeveas: i'll try restarting x now07:59
echeeseAnything I should know?07:59
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JoeBlowis their a way to close a program that wont let u close it manually07:59
ryancasimirois anyone listening to me?07:59
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ryancasimirocan i rely this channel to help me with my problems?07:59
Kindredecheese, err not really :)07:59
JemtGreetings. Is there some way I can see which character encoding I have used in a specific text file (PHP file) ?07:59
Zedmanhello. what version of cdrecord works fine with ubuntu?08:00
echeeseJoeBlow: Ctrl-Alt-Escape08:00
echeesethen click on it08:00
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echeesethen press escape08:00
Kindredryancasimiro, if you say your problem if anyone knows hopefully they'll help you :|08:00
djstSeveas: you the man ;)08:00
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djstSeveas: thanks a lot.. didn't realize there were two gdm folders in /etc08:00
SeveasDJSlakoR, last time I checked, I'm still a man :)08:00
JoeBlowecheese: didnt do anything08:00
Seveasdjst*08:00
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djst:)08:00
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djstgotta go. cheers!08:01
Seveasryancasimiro, it's quite busy sometimes, but generally you can rely on us :08:01
Seveasdjst, bye08:01
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XHKHow can I install .deb file ^^08:01
ryancasimirosorry sorry. i am grateful for your help. this irc and web forums are of great help08:01
julio Hi men, how can i test my ge force mx 4000? to see if is she correct instaled08:02
zAo^XHK, sudo dpkg -i *.de08:02
zAo^*.deb ..08:02
XHKty zAo^08:02
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julio Hi men, how can i test my ge force mx 4000? to see if is she correct instaled08:02
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julio Hi men, how can i test my ge force mx 4000? to see if is she correct instaled08:02
Seveasryancasimiro, it generally helps to just ask a question08:02
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Seveasjulio, did you do what ubotu told you?08:03
echeeseIs the dvd a LiveCD?08:03
julioyes08:03
juliobut i dont want to install08:03
Seveasecheese, live and install :)08:03
julioi want to TEST08:03
echeeseSeveas: Sweeet08:03
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JemtHow can I see which character encoding is being used for a specific PHP file (text file) ?08:03
Seveasjulio, so you installed the resticted modules, the xorg driver and you did nvidia-glx-enable?08:03
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SeveasJemt, file filename.php08:03
JemtSeveas: Thanks, i'll try that08:03
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juliothe ubuntu dont isntall alone?08:04
juliothe ubuntu dont isntall the video card alone?08:04
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Seveasnvidia cards need some manual action, as ubotu told you08:04
zAo^julio, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2908:04
ztreckHow do i uninstall apache2, i use "apt-get remove apache2" but i can still access http://localhost/08:05
zAo^ztreck, stop it :) its in memory :)08:05
Seveasztreck, did you perhaps install apache 1 too?08:05
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SeveaszAo^, the preinst runs the stop script08:05
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Seveasprerm*08:05
zAo^Seveas, hmm. Sorry, didn't know that. Thanks.08:06
JemtSeveas: 'file' dosn't display the character encoding - and the man page is not readable08:06
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Terrasqueztreck: sudo netstat -lntp | grep :8008:06
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JoeBlowI have a folder that i need to put into iso format, i think im supposed to use mkisofs but i cant find anything on how to use it08:07
ztreckHow can i stop apache2? i don't have any other version installed, and i have rebooted my system08:07
trappistJoeBlow: the man page for mkisofs is pretty readable08:07
Jemtztreck: /etc/init.d/apache stop08:07
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Terrasqueztreck, did you do what I typed?08:07
MathewHello all.08:07
Jemtztreck: Might be 'apache2' instea08:08
ztreckTerrasque, yes08:08
Jemtztreck: Might be 'apache2' instead08:08
Terrasqueztreck, and what did it show?08:08
ztrecktcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN     8011/apache208:08
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JoeBlowtrappist: I googled for it and didnt see it08:08
MathewHello, I've installed ssh as a service and it didn't add a script to /etc/init.d/ ..08:08
Mathewwith apt-get08:09
Terrasqueztreck, and you did "apt-get remove apache2"? strange08:09
Mathewam I missing something?08:09
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KyralMathew: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start08:09
trappistJoeBlow: googled?  just type `man mkisofs` in a console08:09
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Zedmanhello. what version of cdrecord works fine with ubuntu?08:10
femtoguyI have a quick question about grub and kernel upgrades08:10
trappistZedman: the version it ships with works fine08:10
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Mathewkyral, I was logged in as root08:11
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Mathewlet me try again just to make sure08:11
KyralMathew: didja install openssh-server?08:11
femtoguyI did a kernel upgrade, and it replaced my windowsxp line in my menu.lst file with the new ubuntu kernel.  I re-edited the file, and put the windows xp line back in, but it seems bad that ubuntu would wreck a set-up like that.08:11
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Storkfemtoguy, get over it, no one likes windows.08:12
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femtoguyWell, yeah, but my wife was a bit upset when she turned on the computer and windows wasn't there.08:12
Kyrallol08:12
Storkback slap her08:12
Mathewstork, if you're not helping, you're just being an a-hole08:12
KyralMake it look like XP lol08:12
Seveasfemtoguy, then your winxp line was in the wrong place08:13
kraftwerk_How do I run programs at login with XFCE (without using a saved session)08:13
Seveasfemtoguy, read the comments in that file08:13
StorkMathew, sounds about right08:13
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femtoguyMy bigger worry is that if I were a newbie, that would be the end of my linux experience.  I have been running Linux since '94, and know how to edit file, but most aren't08:13
Mathewok.. just so we all know ;)08:13
Storkfemtoguy, why not convert her to the light side :) ?08:13
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Spyhi08:13
Seveasfemtoguy, it's *your* mistake that it got deleted08:13
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femtoguyWhen linux runs Quicken, I may have a shot.  Until then ...  (but don't think that I haven't thought of it.)08:14
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Seveasit doesn't do that on its own08:14
Mathewwindows makes it hard to do anything custom or interesting including jumping off a cliff... linux on the other hand.. well.08:14
Kyrallol no kiddin'08:14
KyralMy sister had a problem with her wireless net08:14
KyralI was almost begging for a command line08:14
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RungeKuttaI've been running standard debian (testing and SID) for about 3.5yrs.  Is Ubuntu going to be really any different for me if I switch?08:14
Mathewanyone feel like helping me figure out how to have dual boot on this system?08:14
kraftwerk_How do I run programs at login with XFCE (without using a saved session)?08:14
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Spyfemotogu : That depends on what the users want to do...08:15
Seveas!tell RungeKutta about debian08:15
SeveasRungeKutta, the link ubotu gave you will shed some light08:15
Spyi remember family members being pissed at blue startup screen08:15
Mathewkyral, you can use command line in winblows08:15
KyralMathew: not like in Linux lol08:15
Mathewyeah, well.08:15
KyralI wanted to do something like sudo dhclient eth008:15
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SeveasKyral, cygwin+bash :)08:16
Mathewthats easy08:16
RungeKuttaSeveas: ok thanks :)08:16
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femtoguyBut is there a way to make Ubuntu dual boot correctly?  There is no grub editing program that I can find.  And kernel upgrades should NOT host menu.lst files.08:16
SeveasKyral, ipconfig /renew08:16
Mathewipconfig "name of interface" /renew08:16
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JoeBlowwhats the best ubuntu program for burning cdS?08:16
KyralYou think my sister would like me putting Cygwin on her computer?08:16
Seveasfemtoguy, they only do if *YOU* edit it wrong08:16
Kyralk3b08:16
idefix_when you use gaim it sometimes says "user has closed the conversation window", when I ask the user about this they sometimes deny it, are they lying then?08:16
Seveasthe commens in that file *CLEARLY* explain why08:16
quietfemtoguy, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ......08:16
Seveasidefix_, no08:16
meborcjoeblow: gnomebaker08:17
femtoguyI had Windows Xp as my first option, and as my default boot.  I don't know what more to do08:17
SpyKyral : I think se will love it08:17
g00r0ni recently installed ubuntu........everything works! (after a bit of tweaking)   my videocard was detected and the display looks good..........however, it still does not seem as sharp in comparison to when i boot into windows?    do i need to install something additionally to have a more crisp feel?08:17
idefix_Seveas, you mean gaim has a program error in it?08:17
Seveasfemtoguy, you put it inside the automagic kernel list08:17
kraftwerk_no seriously, how do I run programs @ login with xfce?08:17
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Mathewquiet.. feel like helping a serious newbie take the right steps to leave his ubuntu install alone while installing redhat EL08:17
Seveaswhich as i said 2 times already is documented as NOT GOOD08:17
ryancasimirowhat is an EOF error? :)08:17
quietMathew, /j #unixpunx  :)08:17
Spyi second idefix_08:17
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Seveasidefix_, no msn :)08:18
Mathewk, thanks08:18
femtoguysaying "vi menu.lst" is now a good way of attracting new users.08:18
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femtoguyNow wait, what do you mean "inside the automagic kernel list"08:18
Pygifreaky: ping08:18
Seveasfemtoguy, goddamnit08:18
Terrasquefemtoguy, I agree! they should use emacs!08:18
Seveasread that file!!08:18
gil-i have a problem with a 4 in 1 card reader, i insert a card but it doesn't do anything...08:18
RungeKuttaOne other question regarding debian/ubuntu.  Are package repositories sharable?  Meaning, can I install a package I find in some random debian repository on apt-get.org and install it?08:19
Spygil : Whats it suppose 2 do, mount it?08:19
femtoguyI will, but why is there no decent grub editing program to work out these details.  I think that dual boot system are the norm, and so I don't see why they should be hard to set up.08:19
SeveasRungeKutta, no08:19
zAo^gil-, what does `dmes | tail ` say?08:19
RungeKuttaSeveas: aah ok, thanks again08:19
gil-spy, i guess08:19
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SeveasRungeKutta, apt-get -b source is generally ok, but mixing binary packages is bad08:19
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RungeKuttaso I can build from source fine, usually, but not just install08:20
RungeKuttamakes sesne08:20
Pygignomefreak: ping08:20
Seveasfemtoguy, there is one, but it does not yet work with Ubuntu08:20
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tahorgmmh, with dapper's 2.6.15-11 kernel, I'm unable to get monitor mode on my ipw220008:20
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Jowifemtoguy: in /boot/brub/menu.lst = "End debian auto magic kernels list" -> you put your entry after this line so it wont be touched when/if you upgrade the kernel08:21
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sas171hi, can somebody help me with my pppoe connection?08:21
idefix_if you log in with the root account on ubuntu you can only edit a file if it is chmod 777-ed (when you want to open the file with Nautilus08:21
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idefix_)08:21
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Jowisas171: hopefully. what's wrong?08:22
idefix_that's actually good because if you leave your PC and someone else uses it when you are gone they cannot edit :-)08:22
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femtoguyJowi: Thanks. that's what I was missing.08:22
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Spy_okay guys will u hold thumbs for me08:23
Spy_im going in with my cd 5.1008:23
Jowifemtoguy: there is more info at the top in the menu.lst file. don't forget to read the files you are editing.08:23
Spy_hehe, and lets hope that error doesnt jump up agian...08:23
MrPocketsi am a uber noob, can someone please try to explane how i can watch video files in XMMS?08:23
Pygi!video08:24
ubotuWish i knew, Pygi08:24
Spy_dont think u can08:24
Pygi!avi08:24
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:24
Spy_mm hey MR POCK have you tried vlc?08:24
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Pygi!mpg08:24
ubotuPygi: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about08:24
femtoguyI should say that I choose ubuntu for home despite the fact that I use RedHat at work (I have run planty of slackware, redhat, debian, mandrake and whatever in the past) because it is by far the easiest for general users.  This seems like a big problem for new users.08:24
MrPocketsSpy_,  i dont believe so08:24
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MrPocketsor any way i can watch video in Ubuntu08:24
MrPocketsdoesnt have to be XMMS08:25
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ScootaDootause xine08:25
MrPocketshow do i get it?08:25
kemikMrPockets:  use mplayer or vlc08:25
TerrasqueMrPockets, xine mplayer and vlc are the usual video players on linux08:25
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MrPocketswhats the easiest to install?08:25
Seveasfemtoguy, it's not08:25
Seveas0.5% of the users ever change taht file08:25
kemikMrPockets:  vlc i'd say08:25
Spy_well first try their website or just try sudo apt-get install vlc08:25
jendaMrPockets: apt-get install anything :)08:26
Seveasand even 0.5% is overrated, more like 0.01%08:26
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sas171ok, after the boot up i have 3 interfaces: eth1, pppoe0 and lo. My dsl modem is connected to eth1 and pppoe0 connection seems to run, but i cant ping google... i can access internet only after "pon dsl-provider" and then there are 2 pppoe connections... what should i do get connected on startup?08:26
meborci like vlc as it can read even avi-files with errors as totem and mplayer crash :)08:26
TerrasqueMrPockets, all of them. If you have the universe repositories activated you find them in synaptic08:26
Spy_does sudo mean run-ass root?08:26
Chris_Tuckeri need help with my monitor horizontal sync range! its way out of wack, the picture is skewed and overlapping.. i have a picture but only via dcc or anonymous ftp if available.. imageshack is broken here :(08:26
MrPockets"couldnt find VLC"08:26
Spy_okay then u need to add repos, hold on08:26
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jendaMrPockets, I recommend having all three: sometimes, xine won't play the sound, sometimes mplayer crashes, and VLC is a little more complicated to manage...08:27
Chris_Tuckerright now im using 31.4 in my xorg.conf, thats the closest i can get to sqare, if i raise this, it gets overlapped more and skewed beyond visability08:27
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sas171Chris_Tucker: your xorg.conf is probably wrong08:27
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Spy_pock : http://www.ubuntux.org/node/13908:27
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Chris_Tuckersas171, i know. but i kneed help finding the right ranges... if i didnt know i wouldnt know what was wrong ;)08:27
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Jowisas171: seems like you've configured several pppoe connections. remove them (not the eth, only the pppoe) and run pppoeconf again. you will get a question if the system should start the connection at boot.08:27
Spy_pock : this is what u must do http://www.ubuntux.org/node/71 and then u can sudo apt-get install vlc08:28
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guzuChris_Tucker, what monitor type?08:28
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Chris_Tuckerguzu, TV.08:28
guzuoh08:28
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sas171Jowi: would to you mid if i asked you to see my interfaces file... i think its not valid.08:28
guzuChris_Tucker, what video card?08:29
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Chris_Tuckerguzu, well, tv and monitor.. clone display.. the monitor is displaying nice and square but the TV is wacked.. want the .jpg?08:29
Chris_TuckerATi Radeon 700008:29
meherenis there a "reinstall" feature for symnaptic form the command line???08:29
Chris_Tuckerbrand spanking new08:29
XHKhow can I open xmms, after I have installed it =/08:29
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brian_ok, what should i use to mount an iso in ubuntu?08:29
Rawplayerwith a can opener08:29
guzuChris_Tucker, sorry, i have no idea how ati should be set up :(08:29
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Jowisas171: no need. launch "sudo network-admin" and remove those pppoe connectors. then run pppoeconf again.08:29
sp1hello08:30
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Chris_Tuckerguzu, its not the driver its the horizontal sync08:30
Chris_Tuckerguzu, here have a look.. dcc..08:30
julioHi08:30
brian_whats the best program to use to mount iso's?08:30
ScootaDootatoolbar (top left) under applications > sound and video08:30
julioI download the DRIVER OF NVIDIA FOR LINUX08:30
julioin the nvidia site08:30
juliobut when im isntaling08:30
Jowibrian_: "mount" :)08:30
julioinstaling08:30
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juliothat error Account08:30
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sp1I need some help about wifi... :D08:31
juliothat error begin!08:31
julioERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the08:31
julio         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,08:31
julio         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.08:31
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guzuChris_Tucker, try to read docs on ati homepage or on tv maker's08:31
julio  ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the08:31
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julio         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,08:31
julio         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.08:31
julio                                       OK08:31
julio  NVIDIA Software Installer for Unix/Linux                      www.nvidia.com08:31
pavloshave a nice day...i think i will be needing a lot of help ....08:31
julioERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the08:31
julio         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,08:31
julio         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.08:31
julio                                       OK08:31
julioERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the08:31
julio         package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,08:31
julio         then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.08:31
Chris_Tuckerguzu, already have08:31
julio                                       OK08:31
julio MY NVIDIA ERROR08:31
purpleheart_USMCWhat is the difference between the ubuntu cd and dvd releases?08:31
moodogjulio: Why not install the Ubuntu package?08:31
sas171Jowi: hm, command not found08:31
Chris_Tucker!paste08:32
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:32
juliomodog08:32
ScootaDootajulio:  sudo apt-get nvidia-glx08:32
Jowijulio: read what you just posted. the answer is in front of your eyes. and please use pastebin. don't flood the channel08:32
Terrasquepurpleheart_USMC, the dvd version got more stuff on it08:32
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purpleheart_USMCTerrasque: like what?08:32
julioi cant understand very good the english jowi.08:32
zAo^julio, /usr/bin/ld ??08:32
MrPocketsshit this supository shit is way over my head08:32
juliohey i download the driver08:32
stark-johanI have a program that's trying to use my parallell port but it seem like it's allready active in some way. It's for my eprom programmer, It has a light that indicates activity and it lights up when I program under windows but in ubuntu it on all the time. Any tips?08:32
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Jowisas171: network-admin? oh. ok. post your interfaces anyway then at pastebin08:32
julioput in the terminal the comand08:32
bettong_BOFHType cat vmlinuz > /dev/audio to hear the Voice of God.08:32
juliosudo sh ...08:33
Spy_MrPockets : There is a graphical way to do it08:33
Jowijulio: sudo apt-get install binutils08:33
juliobut08:33
julioThx..08:33
julioJowi08:33
julioSorry im new in the linux08:33
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julioit is my first time man08:33
moodogjulio: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver has detailed instructions08:33
Terrasquepurpleheart_USMC, dunno. only real difference I've noticed is that it installed an optimized kernel for my machine. But I always replace the apt sources.list asap..08:33
Spy_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:33
MrPocketsSpy_,  meaning?08:33
purpleheart_USMCah08:33
sas171Jowi: http://pastebin.com/49221208:34
juliothx moodog!!!08:34
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MrPocketsyeah i saw that, still over my hear.08:34
Spy_only follow it till this line: Once the package list has been updated, packages from universe can be installed.08:34
Spy_its very simple.. open the apt-get GRAPHICAL VERSION08:35
Spy_go to the settings --> Repositories08:35
Spy_and then enable those which are disabled by default08:35
mwe!ubuntuguide08:35
ubotuI guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead08:35
bipolarthe new kernel and fglrx still crashes for me.08:35
bipolarin dapper08:35
sas171Jowi: and there is my ifconfig now too08:35
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MrPocketsspy can you PM me?08:36
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Spy_sure08:36
mwebipolar: yeah. fglrx needs a patch to work with 2.6.15 kernels08:36
bipolarI see there is a patch of sorts that supposedly makes it work.08:36
JDahlI just tried installing Jabber-amd64, but it the installation freezes shortly after choosing language and keyboard (before loading packages from CD-ROM)08:36
bipolarmwe, are you using it?08:36
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zblachhey, quick question. i got a new keyboard with all sorts of fancy keys. how can I tie them to stuff?08:36
mwebipolar: in breezy, but a custom 2.6.15 kernel, yes08:36
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Spy_mr pockets : It says mp is disabled due to spam problems08:36
bipolarmwe, how did you create the new fglrx module?08:36
Jowisas171: looks ok. run pppoeconf again, and at the end when it asks you if you want it to connect at boot, say yes08:37
mwebipolar: I patched the source then built the module as you usually would08:37
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sas171Jowi: hm, ok ill try it08:37
sas171thanks08:37
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Spy_MR POCKETS : ill guide you through the steps, r u on ubuntu now?08:37
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afiefI have problems compiling with GCC /tmp/cc3irSVc.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'08:37
afiefcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status08:37
mwebipolar: Maybe that patch is in the dapper release of fglrx already though, but I don't think so though I don't know08:38
moodogmwe: surely would be better to post a useful link rather than complain about a guide that for this point seems to work?08:38
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mwe!nvidia08:38
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:38
mwemoodog: there08:38
zblachnot fun having all these dead keys. is there nothing I can do?08:38
bipolarmwe, so you are using the ati driver from ati's site, not the one in the repo, right?08:38
albackeri download cltl   "Description: Common Lisp the Language, second edition, book (Pre-ANSI)08:38
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albacker" with apt-get, how do i read it now ?08:38
PuMpErNiCkElodd08:38
moodogmwe: well done :)08:39
mwebipolar: right. I have to. I use a custom kernel08:39
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zblach!keyboard08:39
ubotuzblach: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:39
zblach?08:39
Spy_he doesnt know08:39
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sas171Jowi: hm, it only searches for PPPoE concentrator and finds nothing...08:39
zblachmsg ubotu keyboards08:39
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Spy_remember "/"08:39
afiefcan someone tell me how to get GCC to work? gotta compile my homework08:39
PuMpErNiCkEl!ritalin08:39
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Jowisas171: that's odd. anyone else knows about this one?08:40
albackerguys i downloaded the lisp book by doing : "apt-get install cltl" how do i read the book now ? where is it located ?!08:40
mweafief: install build-essential08:40
Spy_afief : sudo apt-get install gcc08:40
sas171:(08:40
Terrasqueafief, install the package build-essentials ?08:40
Spy_then u want to get a GUI for editing source files08:40
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C-O-L-TI have a question08:40
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afiefmew, spy_ terrasque: all installed, but still get an error when i try to compile my simple .C files08:40
Ariel_quick question is there a apt-get for the add-ons disk?  is there an addon disk for 5.10?08:40
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zblach!keyboards08:40
ubotukeyboards are the things you type with08:40
C-O-L-Tdo you think fedora core is better than ubuntu?08:41
Spy_what error?08:41
Spy_did u install make?08:41
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Ariel_fedora is just a beta test for redhat08:41
Spy_i remember i had to do something tricky08:41
ScootaDootaC-O-L-T:  They both have good and bad points08:41
mweC-O-L-T: I guess we wouldn't be using ubuntu if we did :)08:41
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MrPocketsSpy_,  so i seleceted the ones that wernt selected08:41
afiefC-O-L-T: used to be Fedora, it's a nice package, but i think ubuntu is better for the desktop08:41
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Spy_afief : what error?08:41
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MrPocketsnowi just sudo apt-get vlc ?08:42
TerrasqueC-O-L-T, I like fedora best! Thats why I use ubuntu! Duh08:42
julioHi08:42
juliojulio@martinez:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings08:42
julioLendo Lista de Pacotes... Pronto08:42
julioConstruindo rvore de Dependncias... Pronto08:42
julioO pacote nvidia-settings no est disponvel, mas  referenciado por outro pacote.08:42
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julioIsso pode significar que o pacote est faltando, ficou obsoleto ou08:42
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julioest disponvel somente a partir de outra fonte08:42
julioE: O pacote nvidia-settings no tem candidato para instalao08:42
juliojulio@martinez:~$08:42
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Spy_yes, did u do the other steps... its sudo apt-get install vlc08:42
mad_phoenixdoes anybody know the link to the wiki site that gives instructions on setting up Apache/MySQL/PHP un breezy?08:42
erUSULjulio, please do not paste here please08:42
albackerC-O-L-T, ubuntu has the best package manager ! apt !08:42
erUSUL!pastebin08:42
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:42
C-O-L-TI see, thanks08:42
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juliosorry08:42
Kindred!apache08:42
zblachnothing on keyboards, neh?08:42
ubotuwell, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom08:42
Jowisas171: edit the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and change "alias net-pf-10 ipv6" to "alias net-pf-10 off08:42
_ian_hi08:42
brian_damn mount option doesnt work, it tells me the file doesnt exist, and i know i pointed it perfectly08:42
afiefSpy_: /tmp/ccw8Kj3e.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'08:42
afiefcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status08:42
mad_phoenixthanks!08:42
C-O-L-Talbacker: probably but it has very few packages included08:42
C-O-L-Ton the cd08:42
_ian_how can i transfer files form my user accoutn to other user accounts? usr folders08:43
Spy_how far did it get afief?08:43
erUSULubotu, tell julio about pt08:43
albackerC-O-L-T, no it doesnt. you have to add repos !08:43
albackercan someone help me please with my problem ? i downloaded the lisp book, with apt-get install cltl and how do i read it ? where is it located ?08:43
afiefspy_: no where at all. this is the only line i get, and there is only one .C file to compile anyway08:43
kemikalbacker:  guess noone knows right now.. try later perhaps08:43
erUSULalbacker, try /usr/share/doc/08:43
C-O-L-Talbacker: I mean that fedora core is 4 cd and ubuntu just one08:43
Spy_afeif... im going to fresh install ubuntu right now, ill be in this channel within 40mins - 1hr then we can install vlc together ok08:43
sas171Jowi: done08:43
brian_Jowi: I followed the wiki thing on how to mount iso to a T, and it tells me disk1.iso: No such file or directory08:43
C-O-L-Talbacker: you need net connection to download  a lot of things08:44
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MrPocketsor better yet, i have totem already, i just need the decoders for it?08:44
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albackerC-O-L-T, ok, you can use internet to get packages !08:44
TerrasqueC-O-L-T, use the ubuntu dvd instead, then08:44
Jowisas171: time to reboot. we just removed ipv6 support.08:44
john__Hi can someone please help me. I had ubuntu dual booting perfect with windows XP and had grub installed to my linux root partition. Installed windows first then linux. BUT... I had to install windows again and XP has used its only boot loader instead of grub and I cant boot ubuntu :(08:44
albackerC-O-L-T, i know, i have dialup thats a pain in the ass for me, but its better downloading them than just getting from CD !08:44
zAo^MrPockets, gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse ?08:44
MrPocketshmm?08:44
sas171Jowi: why?08:45
TerrasqueMrPockets, install the gstreamer0.8-plugins package to get totem to play more stuff..08:45
brian_john__: theirs a thing on the wiki, do u have the live cd?08:45
Spy_afief try compiling a C++ file08:45
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mwejohn__: boot from a live cd and reinstall grub08:45
john__yes i have the live cd08:45
mwejohn__: there is a wiki IIRC08:45
john__how do I do that?08:45
Jowisas171: that's the concentrator error most likely08:45
MrPocketsTerrasque, excellant,  how?08:45
mwejohn__: search wiki.ubuntu.com08:45
stark-johanhod wo I reload /etc/modules?08:45
brian_john__: go to ubuntu.com and look on the wiki, theirs a thing for recovering it, i had to do it manually today and it worked great08:45
TerrasqueMrPockets, the usual way. via apt / synaptic08:45
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kemik!tell john__ about grub08:45
afiefSpy_: where do i find a good c++ file to try it on?08:45
Spy_here i quickly give u code08:45
rich-#ubuntu: installing.. wish me luck!08:45
brian_can someone help me out with mounting iso's , i followed the ubuntu wiki and it didnt work08:46
kemikjohn__:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:46
zAo^rich-, luck :D08:46
Terrasquerich-, break a hdd!08:46
Kindredgood luck rich-08:46
john__cheers you guys08:46
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Spy_#include <iostream> int main() { reutnr 0 };08:46
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guest_hi all08:46
sas171Jowi: oh, yes, when i want to shut down and the internet connection is on im getting some dns error...08:46
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C-O-L-Talbacker: that is my case too, i have dialup too, that is the problem of ubuntu, that it does not come with a lot of packages.08:46
Spy_afief:*return 008:46
mwejohn__: here it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:46
guest_really simple question, could someone give me a CLI command to determmine the speed of my imac? i cant remember the processor??08:46
TerrasqueC-O-L-T, as I said earlier. ubuntu also have a DVD08:47
Spy_wherE?08:47
brian_john__: Ive had no luck with any of those instructions other then manual, but the manual is alot easier then it seems08:47
mweguest_: cat /proc/cpuinfo08:47
jahshua--hey can anyone help me out im trying to get mplayer to play a dvd i downloaded in fullscreen ... i tried ..  mplayer -vo xv .. that didnt work .. i also hit f while it was playing but that just made the window bigger but not the screen ..anyone got any other ideas??08:47
Spy_where can i get the ubuntu dvd?08:47
guest_thanks mwe08:47
Jowisas171: well, dns error is another issue.08:47
john__brian_, do you have alink08:47
albackerC-O-L-T, how will you get ubuntu or fedora CDs ?08:47
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yanisback08:48
brian_john__: some guy sent it to you, its at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:48
mwejohn__: here it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows08:48
afiefspy_ I get lot's of unidentified references08:48
brian_john_: the manual instructions work pretty well for me08:48
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Spy_Terrasque : Where can i dl the ubuntu dvd08:48
brian_can anyone help me out with mounting iso's.08:48
C-O-L-Talbacker: I don't have dvd drive :( so i need iso images. I can download fedora cd's from net08:48
binacould someone suggest a tool for converting .wmv to .mpg files.  I've had a go with mencoder but It doesnt detect the frame rate properly and it doesnt seem to be constant so i cant set it manually08:49
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brian_john__: Microsoft assuming u want their bootloader is what made me completely give up windows08:49
Spy_afief, mm im lost.. im going 2 install ubuntu now so then ill try getting gcc to work myself.08:49
TerrasqueSpy_, look at the bottom of the ubuntu download page08:49
C-O-L-Talbacker: but after i have downloaded it I don't have to download so much things as it looks08:49
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paulproteus|laptSpy_: apt-get install build-essential08:49
paulproteus|laptOnce you install ubuntu.08:49
Spy_have u tried using synaptics and installing all the packeages that u think is important08:49
brian_can anyone help me out with mounting iso's.08:49
yanisI did apt-get xdm but I doesnt work right. I suspect that it needs some 'supportive'/depended apps.do you have any I idea what would it be?08:49
afiefC-O-L-T: most of the software on the Fedora CDs are out of date anyway, if you update you won't be able to install most of it08:49
Spy_ubotu download08:49
ubotuhmm... download is get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto08:49
albackerC-O-L-T, if you download fedora cds, than youre able to download some packages for UBUNTU08:49
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afiefSpy_ installing ubuntu and trying to get it to work? really big thanks dude08:50
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Spy_hehe terrasq i missed those08:50
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jahshua--hey can anyone help me out im trying to get mplayer to play a dvd i downloaded in fullscreen ... i tried ..  mplayer -vo xv .. that didnt work .. i also hit f while it was playing but that just made the window bigger but not the screen ..anyone got any other ideas??08:50
Jowiyanis: apt-get should sort out that for you. what error do you get with xdm?08:50
C-O-L-Talbacker: yes you are right, but if I am a traveller, having a laptop without internet connection what is than.08:50
Ariel_ubuntu setup is simple get the iso cd install done.08:50
yanisJowi: again you :P I get *nothing*08:50
albackerC-O-L-T, getting isos with dialup is a foolish thing.. by downloading fedora core CDs youll get a bunch of packages you'll probably never need. by downloadin packages from net, youll get packages you need only08:50
Jowijahshua--: i think if you press Z in mplayer it will go into fullscreen mode08:50
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yanisJowi: when I Install gdm though it works!08:51
Spy_afief think nothing of it, i just hope the cd i have isnt busted else i have to wait for dvd download08:51
Spy_brb 1hr - 1hr 30mins08:51
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albackerC-O-L-T, install what you need by once, and keep them.08:51
Jowiyanis: wierd. installed xdm the other day. maybe your mirrors are crap08:51
yanis*gdm works ,now xdm08:51
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C-O-L-Talbacker: but probably i need a program but i don't know it's name, i need a photo editor and in ubuntu is not icluded08:51
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jahshua--Jowi: nope :(08:52
yanisJowi: xdm is running it just doesnth even display the login screen08:52
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Belboz99Hey, anyone here good with video encoding?  I'm having trouble deinterlacing.08:52
C-O-L-Talbacker: ubuntu should do like other distros post iso package images08:52
tonyyarussoI'm going to ask these once more; I might just break down and reinstall anyway:  Any suggestions for how to fix gdm breaking console switching, and a messed up hibernation shortcut key (both of which used to work)?08:52
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C-O-L-Talbacker: that is my point of view of course :)08:52
yanisJowi: tell me something does xdm includes everything a dm needs?or the login screen is another app for example?08:52
Jowijahshua--: mplayer --help will give you options. should be either a fullscreen or a "zoom" option. try -zoom first08:53
mweyanis: xdm is a login manager in itself08:53
albackerC-O-L-T, anyway, if ubuntu doesnt complete your needs than you get another distro. but belive me, ubuntu is a _good_ one.08:53
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bluefoxicy120!!!08:53
Jowiyanis: xdm is its own master i think.08:53
bluefoxicyYou can log into dapper inside 120 megs now!08:53
ompaultonyyarusso, I might before I gave up type the following >>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<08:54
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bluefoxicywith the newest updates08:54
yanismwe: so it should work. is there any lightweight X display manager ?08:54
Belboz99Jowi, would you happen to know anything about video encoding?08:54
Despe84hello, I'm new on it channel and I don't speack english very well but I understand that you write08:54
yanisjahshua--: /j #mplayer08:54
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mweyanis: xdm is light weight08:54
tonyyarussoompaul, Okay, will do that.  Had tried reconfigure gdm before, but that gave an error.08:54
JowiBelboz99: extremely little. i've just used dvd:rip. it's all automatic08:54
Belboz99Jowi, thanks anyway08:54
yanismwe: I knom it is!!!but it doesnt work for me :/08:54
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JowiDespe84: maybe there is a channel for your language. what do you speak?08:55
C-O-L-Talbacker: I like ubuntu and it is I think the best, I have tried a few ones, but I like this one. My only problem is with this package thing. If I have some problems, or I have to reinstall ubuntu everything, all my packages are lost, and I have to download everything again.08:55
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mweyanis: I guess none will then until you find the reason i doesn't work08:55
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tonyyarussobtw, I think it was intelikey, suggested it could be framebuffer-related, and told me to start with a kernel option of vga=0x0f05, but that didn't work.08:55
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Belboz99anyone else know anything about video encoding?  I'm tyring to use Kino to deinterlace, but I think I have a compatability issue with mjpeg-tools08:55
yanismwe: no!!gdm works!!!!!!08:55
TerrasqueJowi, I would guess french from his host08:55
mweyanis: really?08:55
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Despe84Jowi, I speack french, but I'm student and I learn english08:56
mweyanis: well why do you wanna change it?08:56
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Most_Wantedhi08:56
ompaul!fr08:56
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:56
ompaulDespe84,   ^^^^^ that is for you08:56
ompaulDespe84,   ^^^^^ that is for you08:56
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JowiDespe84: ok. il y a #ubuntu-fr si tu veux. or english in here08:56
yanismwe: gdm is gnome=bloat :P08:56
ompaulDespe84, if you get stuck :)08:56
albackerC-O-L-T, packages you download are stored into a folder .. [all the .deb's]  you can backup them into a cd and than reinstall everything from there.08:56
yanismwe: whatever- I give up/gnome won08:56
Despe84ubotu, I can't stay here ?08:56
ubotuDespe84: Are you smoking crack?08:56
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Terrasqueyanis, X is bloat, console ftw :p08:56
rich-Update: Install going smooth so far, detecting hardware.08:56
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Despe84ubotu, hh, NO ! :)08:56
ubotuNot a clue, Despe8408:56
beepcan someone help me on atapi cdrecord?08:57
yanisTerrasque: I know........08:57
C-O-L-Talbacker: I will do that probably. Thanks for advice08:57
JowiDespe84: of course you can. ubutu is a bot08:57
mweyanis: once you've logged in gdm uses close to zero resources08:57
albackerC-O-L-T, here are the debs kept : v08:57
albackerC-O-L-T, /var/cache/apt/archives/08:57
ScootaDootaI love my console!08:57
Despe84ok Jowi, I haven't see08:57
B166ERX: i just installed a new Motherboard+cpu, and after booting, my ubuntu doesnt have any sound or 3D , i guess i have to reinstall the 3d support, but for sound ? i dont know how to do it08:57
mweyanis: or get some kde bloat instead, kdm :) that one works as well.08:58
C-O-L-Talbacker: these are my downloaded deb's?08:58
yanismwe: maybe yes, BUT it changes that sexy black white grid backgroundb to the brown-human one08:58
albackerC-O-L-T, no problem, youre welcome.08:58
spottedHello, I'd like to have an information.08:58
Jowisas171: any luck after the ipv6 was disabled with pppoeconf?08:58
mweyanis: get a different theme08:58
Despe84spotted, ?08:58
spottedSamba can be started from init.d and rc.d08:58
mweyanis: there are dozens08:58
Belboz99Dang, Debian's server is down, so I can't download the latest Kino package.  I'm stuck with an out of date version that has compatability issues. :(08:58
spottedI disabled it from rc.d but I saw there's a config file in init.d08:58
spottedI edited /etc/inet.d/inetd.conf08:58
mweyanis: if you insist I guess you could get xdm to work08:58
spottedand I commented its line08:58
yanismwe: no you dont get it,its not about themes!! I am talkinng about the background of the desktep08:58
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slickhi08:59
mweyanis: I know08:59
sas171Jowi: ok, there was an error on bootup "ppp0:uknown hardware adress type 512" and an error in dhcp3 script...  except of that no changes08:59
spottedHave I to do somthing else to avoid its start?08:59
spottedsomething*08:59
Despe84Bon personne ne comprend le francais ici ? :o)08:59
B166ERXhow do i reinstall sound support ?08:59
yanisanyway,enough for now...08:59
slickI just installed ubuntu but it dudn't ask for a root password so now I have my user but cant su root, any ideeas?:)08:59
mweyanis: but you're talking about the background at the login, right?08:59
Despe84slick,08:59
Kyralubotu: tell slick about RootSudo08:59
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zool2005Despe84 : oui08:59
yanisno mwe !08:59
sas171Jowi: maybe i just want ot use another dhcp clien?08:59
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yanismwe: the barkground of the desktop09:00
Despe84run in rescue mode09:00
spotted:(09:00
Jowisas171: ok . strange. how is the modem connected. to your eth1? is it a dsl router or a modem?09:00
Despe84and use the command : passwd09:00
C-O-L-Talbacker: I have to say something I use the KDE GUI but I am thinking of changing to GNOME, is it possible without installing ubuntu? I mean everything remains but I will have GNOME. I am asking these questions because I am using Linux just for 3 months09:00
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mweyanis: you can change the background of the destop to anything you like with xsetroot09:00
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albackerC-O-L-T, when you apt-get a package its .deb is stored under /var/cache/apt/archives. so you can backup only that directory !09:00
sas171Jowi: its a dsl modem...09:00
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mweyanis: what window manager do you use?09:00
yanismwe: I know :P09:00
john__u know whats annoying about ubuntu09:00
TerrasqueC-O-L-T, install the ubuntu-desktop package IIRC09:00
Jowisas171: what type?09:00
yanismwe: e1709:00
kremontequestion, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules09:00
john__its so annoying that there is a wiki for everything!09:01
ScootaDootaslick:  sudo passwd then change the password09:01
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zool2005john_ why is that annoying?09:01
yanisbye for now09:01
Jowijohn__: correction. it is GOOD that there is a wiki for everything09:01
slickthx09:01
sas171Jowi: what do you mean? example of types...09:01
Terrasquejohn__, what's worse, you dont get the joy of hand-configuring X09:01
john__zool2005, cos im a spaz and need people to talk me through things09:01
mweyanis: I must admit I don't really understand your problem :)09:01
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Jowisas171: I mean what is the brand and model of the modem?09:01
john__zool2005, im a big drain on resources man09:02
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ph8anyone got a link to setting up ati cards on ubuntu?09:02
albackerC-O-L-T, are you using ubuntu at the moment or kubuntu ? anyway, whatever you use you can get gnome without having to reinstall your distro.. and yeah gnome is a good choice :)09:02
yanismwe: its that I dont want to use gnome apps09:02
Kindred!ati09:02
Jowisas171: sorry for expressing a bit unclear09:02
ubotufrom memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:02
yanismwe: when I can09:02
ph8you can run gnome and use kde apps, but you may as well use kde09:02
zool2005john_ : I think most people need a load of support at first09:02
ph8i run gnome but use Kate for example09:02
slickmuch better now :)09:02
ph8cheers kindred09:02
sas171Jowi: its a thomson speedtouch sap10064709:02
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sas171Jowi: no worries =)09:03
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waldemarnenasss09:03
mweyanis: If you're really stubbon I'm sure you can get xdm to work though personally I think you're crazy :)09:03
C-O-L-Talbacker: I am using KUBUNTU at the moment, but I have Gnoppix and I like GNOME09:03
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kameronis there any way i can write a new partition table?09:03
Despe84sas171, in french we say : don't worry, be happy :)09:03
kremontedon't worry, be happy!09:03
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sas171=)09:04
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beepcan someone help me on atapi cdrecord?09:04
darkritual./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:04
darkritual <= another problem09:04
albackersure you can install gnome :)09:04
Despe84yeahh kremonte !!! I like talk with you09:04
mwekameron: yeah. use fdisk and make the partitions you want. but that's probably not what you mean09:04
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zool2005I get an error when importing jpg photos from dig camera :  To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "JPEG image", then open the file normally, can anyone help please?09:04
albackerC-O-L-T, you can install it09:05
sas171darkritual: somebody can think _you_ are another problem =)09:05
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C-O-L-Talbacker: how? can you help me? PLS09:05
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C-O-L-Talbacker: :)09:05
TerrasqueC-O-L-T, install the package ubuntu-desktop09:05
kremontequestion, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules09:05
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aba-3/t09:05
kameronmwe: no, it's not. and you shouldn't reccomend fdisk to people in a linux channel! tisk tisk09:05
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aba-oop09:05
darkritualsas171 lol i am one XD09:05
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TerrasqueC-O-L-T, and I really hope for your sake you dont have a dialup ;)09:05
zAo^kremonte, what does it say when you disable twinview?09:06
mwekameron: of course linux fdisk. what's wrong with that?09:06
Belboz99Hey, what do you guys think of this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6662 ?09:06
kremontezao, before i set up twinview it worked =^)09:06
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mwekameron: nothing wrong with linux fdisk IMO09:06
mwekameron: I used it for years09:06
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kameronmwe: oh right, forgot about that prog09:06
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zool2005why does nautilus want me to change extensions from jpg to jpeg to open files?09:06
mwekameron: I wouldn't recommend windoze programs in here09:06
C-O-L-TTerrasque: I have a very small connection 30kb / s09:06
albackerC-O-L-T, apt-get install gnome              wait im not sure if gnome is the right name tho'09:06
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albackerguys when installing gnome, is gnome the right name to apt-get install ?09:07
mwealbacker: ubuntu-desktop09:07
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sas171Jowi: any ideas?09:07
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afiefDoes anybody else have a problem with GCC in Ubuntu?09:07
Terrasquealbacker, I would suggest ubuntu-desktop09:07
techoneok so now Ive got firefox open and a directory listing of a web srever with some doc files. when I try to save it to disk the save dialog opens and lets me select a place to put it but after hitting save it sorta hangs and comes back the save dialog and clicking save a second time makes the window disappear.09:07
elzahi folks, I'm pretty new with all kinds of computer stuff and would like some help to upgrade my ubuntu version :)09:07
techoneANY IDEAS09:07
fmhi09:07
mweelza: from what to what?09:08
Jowisas171: cant find any info on it. is it connected to usb or ethernet?09:08
elzafrom the second latest to the latest I think09:08
mwe!breezy09:08
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade09:08
mweelza: look at that09:08
elzasorry thank's09:08
mweelza: don't worry09:08
elzaI mean just thanks09:08
polpakafief, nope, no problems09:08
albackerC-O-L-T, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:08
albackerC-O-L-T, do that while being root09:09
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mwethat'd be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:09
afiefpolpak: I get lot's of undefined references when i try gcc <file>09:09
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fmI have a little problem with the allegro library but people on #allegro seem to be asleep so... I have to run something "in X mode" in opposition to "in console mode". So I guess it is just a question of how you start the program... i'm doing ./my_prog from a console, I guess I'm running it in console mode... But how do I run it in X mode then ?09:09
Belboz99can someone look at this error and tell me what's going wrong?  Thanks!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666209:09
albackerthanks mwe Terrasque09:09
tonyyarussoNo luck, ompaul.09:09
polpakafief, what file? something you wrote?09:10
ompaulalbacker, we don;t have root enabled for a reason /msg ubotu root to find the thinking09:10
C-O-L-Talbacker: But I have a question, the last one:). If I have KDE and GNOME too can I access from GNOME my KDE programs, so can I see them in the Start menu or whatever it has GNOME?09:10
sas171Jowi: ithernet, but i think that my modem is ok. I was using ubuntu before and all was perfect but now i have kubuntu installed and have the trouble, so i think its strictly config error...09:10
techoneSeveas, perhaps this next-current problem ties into the other missing files issues I had with firefox and nautilus and locales and lost video config09:10
afiefpolpak: yes, very simple code i used to run on turbo C. college homeworks09:10
robzonok, i'm gonna ask once again, cause I got cut off the internet last time I asked ;) I'm downgrading from dapper to breezy and apt-get cannot install A LOT of packages, because of broken dependencies: it has the correct version installed, but it says that a newer one "is to be installed".. anyone knows how to fix this?09:10
albackerC-O-L-T, you can edit your start menu.. but you can have problem by running kde programs under gnome; i had problems when running amaroK :S09:10
Jowisas171: yep, i'm sure it works fine since you can connect with pon. but it's annoying :)09:10
phlaegelanybody done an update from hoary to breezy while running slapd? mine won't finish configuring09:10
polpakafief, If you pastebin the file, I'll debug it for you09:10
Jowisas171: sorry, can't find a thing.09:11
mweC-O-L-T: if you install menu-xdg you'll get a common menu09:11
idefix_what is the dmesg | less command for?09:11
rich-Install error: It gets to about 40% installing core packages and then i get this -09:11
rich-Base system installation error (return value 1)09:11
rich-check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details09:11
rich-<go back> <continue>09:11
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sas171Jowi: ok, thank you for help09:11
ompaultonyyarusso, well I don't know what got messed up if your on for a reinstall it will mean that you are starting from a clean base and you will learn more every time around, however it should be fixable but I don't know enough about what is broken, if it is a bit of a saga maybe putting it in a pastebin might help someone diagnose it, but onthe info available I can't go much further09:11
afiefpolpak: but i don't think it's the file. spy_ gave me a simple main(){return 0;} code of his and it didn't work either09:11
Jowisas171: just change the ipv6 back again to be on the safe side, ok09:11
idefix_!dmesg09:11
ubotuWish i knew, idefix_09:11
polpakidefix_, dmesg will show you what hardware was configured by the kernel on boot09:11
mweC-O-L-T: that way you don't have to edit anything. you'll get a menu that's visible in all window managers (well almost all wms)09:11
zool2005does anyone else have trouble opening jpg files?09:12
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mwezool2005: not really09:12
C-O-L-Talbacker: ok I will try. Really my last question is that how long is GNOME i mean how much disk space requires. My Kubuntu partition is just 7 gb and I have just 4 gb free space09:12
idefix_polpak, so it should be in the long list you get when starting up your PC?09:12
mwezool2005: display foobar.jpg works just fine here09:12
rich-Anyone?09:12
zAo^C-O-L-T, I think < 1GB09:12
zool2005mwe, I can't open jpg files, nautilus wants me to change ext. to jpeg09:12
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idefix_I'm just trying to get my webcam working under linux using http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/hardware.shtml09:12
sas171Jowi: what file was it again?09:12
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polpakafief, well I can't help unless I can see the file, and the errors09:13
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idefix_okok, so you have to spend a lot of time here helping other people before you are helped yourself?!09:13
techoneok check out these messages http://pastebin.ca/3589309:13
mwezool2005: that's a nautilus problem I guess. I don't use nautilus, sorry09:13
Jowisas171: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases "alias net-pf-10 ipv6"09:13
polpakafief, but gcc works fine for me09:13
zool2005anyone have any ideas?09:13
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afief!pastebin09:13
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:13
sas171Jowi: thx09:13
tonyyarussoompaul, Part of my problem is that just like you said, I'll learn more every time around, and I haven't been around very many times, so I don't know much about what I'm looking for.  In other words, I would if I could, but I don't even know what to paste.  I can describe the behavior, but don't know what files to check.09:13
albackerC-O-L-T, apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop09:13
slick!ati09:13
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:13
techoneit complains of a I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 several times09:13
mweafief: pastebin your .c file as well a the errors you get09:14
Terrasqueidefix_, I answer questions when I feel like. It's nothing personal :p09:14
techonewait a minute isnt that the floppy09:14
albackerC-O-L-T, that shows some information about the ubuntu-desktop, about the packages it will install and its size.09:14
mweafief: or go to ##c or #gcc09:14
slick!mc09:14
ubotuslick: What?09:14
polpakSeveas, why doesn't ubotu point people to the Starter Guide for Breezy to install the nvidia and ati drivers?09:14
albackerC-O-L-T, and asking is a very good thing, asking is the fastest way for learning :) .09:14
mwe!info mc09:14
slickwhy isnt there an MC package ?09:14
ubotumc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB09:14
rich-Please help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666309:14
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C-O-L-Talbacker: It is 1 GB I will install it.09:14
albackerC-O-L-T, good :)09:14
C-O-L-Talbacker: I will leave my pc turned on and It will install it09:15
e_machinistHey quick q. Should I install a firewall on Ubuntu?09:15
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C-O-L-Talbacker: how I install it?09:15
slickapt-get install mc says cant find it09:15
kamerone_machinist: customize iptables to your liking.09:15
Jowie_machinist: no and yes09:15
albackerC-O-L-T,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:15
kremonteslick: do you have universe enabled?09:15
Jowie_machinist: if you feel you need one: firestarter09:15
polpake_machinist, it isn't nessicary unless you both want to use a daemon service, and want to restrict access to the daemon to specific networks09:15
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albackerslick, try apt-cache searc  before trying to download a package 'apt-cache search mc'09:15
purpleheart_USMCCan you use an ubuntu box as a firewall and a lamp server?09:16
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C-O-L-Talbacker: but i want to install GNOME not ubuntu I have KUBUNTU. And I want to chose between desktops so KDE or GNOME09:16
polpake_machinist, by default ubuntu has no daemon services that listen to the outside world, therefore it doesn't need firewall rules configured09:16
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albackerslick, apt-cache search mc            **09:16
techoneok wierd I put the floppy back in the drive and tried to save a file from web page to home and the save dialog just disappears. checking tail messages shows on new entery,09:16
techoneJan  5 15:13:06 localhost -- MARK --09:16
tonyyarussoe_machinist, At first I was told I didn't need one for normal use, now I'm looking into fun toys over networks like remote desktop access, so now I'm told Firestarter's good.09:16
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techonewhat the hell doe shtat mean09:16
e_machinistpolpak: oh, I didn't know that... learn something new every day.09:16
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JowiC-O-L-T: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:16
rich-Install help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666309:17
e_machinisttonyyarusso: I'll look into firestarter09:17
C-O-L-Talbacker: ?09:17
tonyyarussoompaul, Shall I describe what I do know?09:17
blaatwhen i try to compile mplayer i get the error "X11 support required for GUI compilation". I'm searching 4 hours now but i can't find the ubuntu package who fix this error09:17
blaatis er someone who no's this error?09:17
polpake_machinist, however if you install a daemon and only want specific people to access it.. use a firewall09:17
albackerC-O-L-T, ubuntu-desktop installs gnome.. ubuntu-desktop says its desktop of ubuntu.. and ubuntu uses gnome.. so its gnome09:17
john__Anyone...if I installed grub to my linux partition and that was on the 2nd partition of the first drive at the beginning of the partition, would it be hd0,209:17
john__?09:17
albackerC-O-L-T, belive me, and the other guys !09:17
rich-hd0,1 i believe09:18
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e_machinistpolpak: yah... a daemon such as a file and print sharer or something?09:18
john__hd0 is the first drive yes?09:18
techoneubuntu desktop is gnome + ubuntu desktop choices09:18
afiefpolpak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6667 but i guess checking on spy_'s file would be easier(shorter) as the problem seems to be the same09:18
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john__then the 1 means 2nd partition?09:18
rich-yes09:18
techoneas in customized for ubuntu09:18
tonyyarussojohn_, What rich- said.  Always take what seems intuitive and subtract one, from both parts, for grub.09:18
C-O-L-Talbacker: But when I am starting Kubuntu at splash screen I will have the opportunity to choose between them right? And it won't delete my KDE packages09:18
C-O-L-T??09:18
john__so the last number does not mean beginning or end of the partition?09:18
tonyyarussoC-O-L-T, Correct.09:18
rich-just which partition09:18
john__okso hd0,109:18
rich-first starting with 009:18
C-O-L-Tok09:19
mwegrub is weird. first partition on the first hd is (hd0,1) ?09:19
tonyyarussojohn_, Yep.09:19
kameronmwe: yes09:19
C-O-L-TGUYS I AM INSTALLING GNOME09:19
slickthx guys09:19
rich-Install Help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666309:19
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e_machinistWell, also I'm on dialup... so a firewall would almost be overkill. Haha.09:19
mwekameron: I think it doesn't make sense though :)09:19
albackerC-O-L-T, no it doesnt.09:19
john__so all agreed that hd0,1 means the 2nd partition on the first drive09:19
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kameronmwe: everything is one short in grub. hda2 would be called hda1 to grub09:19
albackerC-O-L-T, youll have both KDE and gnome,09:19
afiefmwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666709:19
Jowimwe, kameron: shouldn't that be (0,0)?09:19
rich-john__: yes =D09:19
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john__rich-, are you sure now cos this will rape my pc if its wrong09:19
albackerC-O-L-T, well done :)09:20
tonyyarussokameron, Well, really it would be hd(something before a)109:20
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phlaegelanybody? slapd upgrade problems when going hoary->breezy?09:20
C-O-L-Talbacker: Invalid operation ubuntu-desktop09:20
kameronyou guys know what i mean :P09:20
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Jowimwe, kameron; hda3 = (hd0,2)09:20
mweJowi: I have forgotten. I haven't used the grub command line in like a few years or so09:20
rich-john__: it can always be rescued.. and on the question of how sure I am, I've been working with bootloaders for about a week nonstop now =D09:20
john__rich-, so if my windows install is on the first partition it would be hd0,009:20
techonejohn_, in computers and program zero is the first digit and 1 is the second digit09:20
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polpakafief, ah.. it seems gcc thinks you're trying to compile a c++ file09:20
dawidokay afief09:20
albackerC-O-L-T, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:20
rich-john__: yes09:20
kameron(hd0,0) etc09:20
john__therefore hd0 is the MBR09:20
mweJowi: so hda1 is (hd0,0) it would make more sense at least09:21
albackerC-O-L-T, you probably did something like apt-get ubuntu-desktop09:21
idefix_why am i not highly gifted? :-(09:21
rich-john__: aka hda109:21
Jowimwe: i'm pretty sure it is09:21
kameroni use lilo.. i don't deal with grub and it's BS09:21
john__/dev/hda109:21
john__ya?09:21
rich-yes09:21
afiefpolpak: but spy_'s file was C++(I think) and it didn't compile either09:21
rich-Can anyone help with Install? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666309:21
john__rich- u are held responsible ha09:21
john__gonna try09:21
blaatwhen i try to compile mplayer i get the error "X11 support required for GUI compilation". I'm searching 4 hours now but i can't find the ubuntu package who can fix this error. Is there somebody here who can help me out?09:21
albackerC-O-L-T, did it start ?09:21
tonyyarussojohn_, Yes.  But I think when you're actually trying to write the MBR, you do it to hda, without a number.09:21
rich-john__: good luck =D09:21
brian_anyone have any ideas why mount doesnt find my iso?09:21
thegladiatorlil handles multiple OS ?09:21
C-O-L-Talbacker: yes09:21
polpakafief, can you show me his?09:21
idefix_why is it hda1 and hdb2?? isn't the desciption kind of double? ab, and 12... ??09:21
kameronkind of like.. any programming i do, i skip the first element of an array, so i don't have to think about how 0 is actually the first instance09:21
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rich-yes, MBR would be only hda09:22
C-O-L-Talbacker: i hope that i don't have to stay in front of it09:22
dawidafief how long was i gone?09:22
PuMpErNiCkElwoo09:22
mweJowi: if it's (hd0,1) I'll post an angry complaint to the athors saying it doesn't make any sense :)09:22
techonejohn_, no hd0 is not the master boot record. but the MBR will be stored on hd0,0 along with / and possibly everything else but swap partition09:22
afiefpolpak: i posted it at the begining of the patebin. you should have spy_'s file and mine09:22
albackerC-O-L-T, why should you ?09:22
brian_anyone have any ideas why mount doesnt find my iso?09:22
polpakafief, oh09:23
polpakafief, his is wrong09:23
afiefdawid: you=spy_? half an hour i think, but time sense isn't something i'm good at09:23
mwebrian_: because you're not typing the correct name for.09:23
rich-Can anyone help with an install error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666309:23
polpakafief, lemme double check09:23
dawidyes dawid = spy09:23
C-O-L-Talbacker: no I don't want to stay in front of it because here is 22:53 East European Time - Romania, and tomorrow is school :)09:23
dawidhehe changed my user thingy this time09:23
Jowimwe: :)09:23
idefix_rich- MBR is a superior linux-version?09:23
brian_mwe: i have it names disk1.iso, its in mtn/iso, and i follow ubuntus instructions to the T with everything from locations to iso name09:23
C-O-L-Talbacker: it asked from me my Kubuntu CD09:23
aba-is there a way to disable the agpgart driver before the kernel loads it?09:23
albackerC-O-L-T, here is 21:24 :)09:24
dawidwell 30mins for a full-install isnt bad (internet not DVD)09:24
albackerC-O-L-T, put it, it might need any package that is into the CD09:24
polpakafief, you can't put code on the end of an include line09:24
mwerich-: My guess would be a bad cd. check the log file it mentions though09:24
rich-idefix_: MBR = Master Boot Record09:24
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C-O-L-Talbacker: where are you from?09:24
C-O-L-TAl\09:24
john__ok guys, im following the wiki guide to get back grub but after typing root (hd0,1) in the grub terminal I get "filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83??09:24
C-O-L-Talbacker: hungary?09:24
afiefpolpak: okay, i don't do that on a normal day anyway:)09:24
rich-mwe: first time with this distro.. at the boot: how do i get to #?09:24
polpakafief, if you move int main to the next line below the include and recompile it it should work09:24
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kremonteany idea why i'm getting this? "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:25
kremonte" i've just set up my 2me monitor, with twinview, and glx is enabled in modules sections09:25
albackerC-O-L-T, Albania09:25
odathi everyone09:25
polpakafief, leme check your code then09:25
techonejohn_, and others it may help to clarify that hda1 and hd0,0 are the same thing by pointing out that those references are in essence two different languages used to describe the same HD like greek and chinese09:25
brian_mwe: sudo mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/iso09:25
brian_ should work right?09:25
mwebrian_: you know ISO1 is different from iso1, right?09:25
brian_mwe: yea09:25
vkwhat to write in cosole to remove a foler?09:25
vkfolder09:25
tonyyarussovk: rmdir09:25
brian_mwe: I copied the name form the file09:25
mwebrian_: what's the error you get?09:25
vktnx09:25
john__techone_did you see my previous message about grub root line09:25
odati have a machine that has severe file system problems   won't even boot    whats the best way to try and fix it09:25
C-O-L-Talbacker: Oh I thought Hungary, I began to be so happy, because I am hungarian. Probably you have heard about Trianon and the Transilvania story09:25
afiefpolpak: moved the int main to the next line. still have what looks like the same problem09:25
brian_mwe: disk1.iso: No such file or directory09:26
techonejohn_, I hate grub and lilo - I never mess with either09:26
techone;^)09:26
rich-mwe: first time with this distro.. at the boot: how do i get to #?09:26
mwebrian_: and the iso file is located in you working directory?09:26
brian_mwe: yea09:26
albackerC-O-L-T,  Ive heard Transilvania, but i dont know any story about it09:26
rich-so i can mount and read logs09:26
techoneI just know enough to be dangerous and so I stay away from such delicate arcane language09:26
mwerich-: ask in the channel. I think alt-f2 but Im not sure09:26
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dawidand what is the prob afief?09:26
rich-mwe: rgr09:27
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afiefdawid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666709:27
polpakafief, what is the output of gcc -v ?09:27
odati have a machine that has severe file system problems   won't even boot    whats the best way to try and fix it09:27
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Kindredbrian_, have you made a dir called iso in mnt?09:27
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jabraany guys i have a sata hd and i needa get it booting windows properly. Do i just need to rebuild the kernel with SATA support?09:27
brian_Kindred: yep mkdir /mnt/iso09:28
definitywhats the linux vertion of NBTSTAT09:28
definity?09:28
polpakafief, try compiling the simple file with g++ isntead of gcc09:28
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jabrawell linux is booting ok but the partitions aren't unknown09:28
tonyyarussojabra, What kernel do you have?  The default worked for SATA for me.09:28
jabrahmm09:28
jabraone sec09:28
jabraLinux dante 2.6.12-9-38609:28
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Kindredbrian_, i've never mounted an iso myself but i'm pretty sure you are missing some parameters there.. let me see09:28
albackerC-O-L-T, there is #ubuntu.hu channel for hungarian people [i think] 09:28
mwebrian_: I don't know. can you tab complete the name of the iso file? like sudo mount -o loop dis<tab> /mnt/iso09:28
C-O-L-Talbacker: Transilvania once belonged to Hungary 100 years ago was still a Hungarian territory, and after the First World War Hungary lost in the war and their territories were taken by other nations, 50 % by its territories and 30% of its people were taken by Romania / Slovakia / Serbia / Austria /09:28
tonyyarussojabra: Are you sure it's a recognition issue and not a mounting one?  (Not sure where we're starting from here.)09:28
afiefpolpak: wroked. got a.out in the folder, but it doesn't run09:29
brian_mwe: sudo mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/iso/09:29
dawidwhats that command to install a .deb? kpg or somehting?09:29
jabrak fdisk tells me the device partitions are unkown09:29
C-O-L-Talbacker: I forgot Ucraine and Croatia09:29
polpakafief, does it give an error when you run it?09:29
tonyyarussodawid, dpkg -i09:29
brian_mwe: I followed this to a T https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManageDiscImages09:29
mwebrian_: that's with tab completion? and it still says no such file?09:29
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brian_mwe yea09:29
definityis ther a program that can map a network graphicly atall?09:29
definityis ther a program that can map a network graphicly atall?09:30
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tonyyarussodawid, Maybe then.09:30
mwedefinity: don't repeat09:30
tonyyarussodefinity, Yeah, look under Places.09:30
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afiefpolpak: sorry, wrong file. worked fine. but is there a way i can debug my program, like setting watches and all this fancy stuff?09:30
vkim running ubuntu on a laptop with mobility radeon grapics, X uses the driver "ati"  is that correct? it feels so slow09:30
mwebrian_: It should work. I have no idea why it says no such file09:30
polpakafief, gdb09:30
thegladiatortest09:30
polpakafief, were you able to compile your program?09:30
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jabraanyone have any ideas?09:31
dawidtony ?09:31
polpakafief, also, I noted you used sudo gcc in the pastebin. Don't do that.09:31
brian_mwe: even if rename it , it doesnt work09:31
definitythere is no places09:31
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afiefpolpak: yes, it compiled to a.out and ran just fine. so don't i have to do anything about gcc?09:31
dawidubotu repositories09:31
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:31
tonyyarussodawid, Sorry, just realized the above was misdirected.09:31
jabrahttp://pastebin.com/49230309:31
techoneok then, in breezy badger which fsck.-----  should I use to do a surface scan repair and mark out bad sectors?09:31
dawidubotu repositories universal09:31
ubotudawid: Syntax error in line 109:31
afiefpolpak: sudo gcc was only because i got the errors and thought this might fix them09:31
vkanyone who knows the correct driver for mobilityradeon?09:31
polpakvk, you need to install the ATI driver help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver09:31
tonyyarusso!universe09:32
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:32
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polpakafief, I find that somewhat surprising.. I got an error about conio.h not existing09:32
ZalamanderHello09:32
vkpolpak, is that the same procedure as for radeon 9600?09:32
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darkritualhow do i fix this:09:32
polpakvk, yes09:32
darkritualdarkritual@DarkRitual:/usr/local/games/armyops$ sh ./armyops09:32
darkritual./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:32
mwebrian_: it's really weird09:32
polpakvk, any radeon should use that09:32
ZalamanderDoes Ubuntu come with a configurator application for setting up dialup?09:32
vkpolpak, tnx alot09:32
mwebrian_: I wish I could be more helpful but it just doesn't make sense to me09:32
brian_mwe: yea it makes no sense at all09:33
C-O-L-TI AM BACK09:33
brian_mwe: what do you suggest i do09:33
brian_mwe: is their an iso mounting program i can try?09:33
Belboz99Hey, anyone have any idea what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/666209:33
robzonlibgnome2-0: Depends: libgnome2-common (= 2.12.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.13.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed <- anyone knows how to deal with this error?09:33
Kindredbrian_, try sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 disk1.iso /mnt/iso09:33
mwebrian_: I don't know. maybe sudo -s to get a root prompt then try again. I doubt it'll work though. also use tab completion for the name09:33
kameronbrian_: just mount the iso in an appropriate filesystem09:33
Kindredbrian_, your iso is named disk1.iso right...09:33
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polpakafief, also clrscr and getche aren't defined09:34
mweKindred: the weird thing is it says no such file09:34
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polpakafief, where did you get conio.h from?09:34
Kindreduhh I think he might be taking the example a bit too literally09:34
afiefpolpak: yes i have the same error. when i compile Q4. but right now i don't need them i guess09:34
brian_Kindred: yep, and same error09:34
Kindredunless the iso really is called disk1.iso09:34
brian_kameron: how?09:34
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afiefpolpak: they came with Turbo C, which is from borland i guess. they aren't in VC++ either09:34
tonyyarussoAny guesses how long an install over internet might take using wireless at a public library in the US?  (Breezy, don't know how much is new since the ShipIt disk.)09:34
polpakafief, ah09:35
brian_mwe:whats tab completion09:35
C-O-L-Talbacker: I have a simple question again09:35
polpakafief, not standard C or posix functions09:35
jenda_Please... how do I find out the PID of a particular process in CLI?09:35
polpakafief, if you stick with posix you'll do alright09:35
Jowitonyyarusso: wireless? are you mad? :P09:35
mwebrian_: type half the name then press tab to complete it09:35
fmasisome one uses wengoPhone and could help me ?09:35
dawidafeif : CLRSCR and READLN and those arent Standard and thus u will have to download a library for em09:35
kameronbrian_: mkisofs -J -R -o filename.iso /some/directory09:35
C-O-L-Talbacker: does exists a kind of Shutdown Expert for Linux?09:35
mwebrian_: ie dis<tab>09:35
albackerC-O-L-T, sure, go on09:35
polpakjenda, ps -auwx | grep processname09:35
jenda_thanks09:35
polpakjenda_, actually don't put the dash09:35
afiefpolpak: what is the standard clear screen function?09:35
mwebrian_: if it can't you're trying to type the wrong name09:35
polpakjenda_, it's deprecated09:35
jenda_ok09:36
polpakafief, there isn't a "standard" way to do it.09:36
tonyyarussoJowi: Umm, maybe.  It would be better than the dialup I have at home.  I did it before at school where I have DSL, but I'm home right now and used one of our other computers to back up files, and I'd like to do it while I still have access to it.09:36
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tonyyarussoJowi: How bad of an idea is it?09:36
polpakafief, if you are going to write console apps you need to look at the ncurses library09:36
albackerC-O-L-T, shutdown expert ?09:36
C-O-L-Talbacker: i mean I can make a schedule that my pc turns on in the night than after finishing it turns out09:36
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afiefpolpak: ncurses? where do i find that?09:36
polpakafief, or for an easy hack you can just loop and output 100 or so newlines09:36
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jenda_polpak: oi... I need to do that from tty2 to tty7... how do I specify?09:37
C-O-L-Talbacker: I forgot to write that downloads something and than turns of09:37
john__how do i read my kernel version?09:37
Jowitonyyarusso: if you have a nice connection you should be alright, but from my experience, wireless can become useless and drop connection in a matter of seconds that's all :)09:37
mwejohn__: uname -r09:37
albackeryou can use anacron i think09:37
afiefpolpak: i think 80 was the right number for it:)09:37
polpakafief, http://dickey.his.com/ncurses/ncurses-intro.html09:37
fmasihow do i kill all soud server so only one program can use it09:37
afiefpolpak: nope, 80 chars per line, about 25 lines or so09:37
brian_mwe: it tabs, but still says that09:37
tonyyarussoJowi: Hmm.  Any tricks that might help me, or any way to recover from your problem?09:37
vkcan someone where i find the repositores file?09:37
C-O-L-Talbacker: a download manager that turns off my pc after finishing the download09:37
odati have a machine that has severe file system problems   won't even boot    whats the best way to try and fix it09:38
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Jowitonyyarusso: heh, not really. just cross your fingers!09:38
aba-is there a way to disable the agpgart driver before the kernel loads it?09:38
afiefpolpak: do you think i'll be able to run Turbo C here? my work will be checked on it09:38
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brian_mwe: im actually copying the name from the directory09:38
albackerC-O-L-T, you can make something like this  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; shutdown -h now                 << means that after downloading & installing it will turn off you PC09:38
C-O-L-Talbacker: something like Kget but it turns off my computer after finishing the download09:38
tonyyarussoJowi, All right!09:38
Jowitonyyarusso: oh, and sacrifice a goat around midnight09:38
brian_mwe: im actually copying the name from the directory09:38
joey222Jowi u still kicking about09:38
mwebrian_: what?09:38
Jowijoey222: lol, my head is spinning09:38
albackerC-O-L-T, but keeping your computer on doesnt damage  :)09:38
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polpakafief, if you wanted to use ncurses you'll need to sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev09:38
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Kindredbrian_ what is the name of the iso?..09:38
joey222got 5.10 in Jowi09:39
Jowijoey222: congrats. working well?09:39
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brian_Kindred:disk1.iso09:39
C-O-L-Talbacker: everybody says this but I want to turn off my computer. I don't wan't to leave it to work all night and all day09:39
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albackereni@madgeek:~$ uptime09:39
afiefpolpak: i think i would prefer turbo C, is that available for linux? though it's age old09:39
albacker 21:39:33 up 1 day,  9:26,  6 users,  load average: 1.35, 1.44, 1.5909:39
joey222well just finishing the install09:39
tonyyarussoJowi: I'll start looking for the goat.09:39
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albackerC-O-L-T, do like i said you.09:39
polpakafief, I'm pretty sure it's not09:39
joey222installing remaining packages09:40
e_machinistHow can I run Firestarter without having to do so in a terminal window (cause then when I kill off the terminal it kills the firewall).09:40
e_machinist?09:40
C-O-L-Talbacker: so i can make that after it has downloaded ubuntu-desktop it shuts down my computer?09:40
brian_Kindred:disk1.iso09:40
brian_Kindred:oops, sorry09:40
odate_machinist, you should have  a menu item for it09:40
tonyyarussoCan I put a space between entries in a grub menu?  (I want to separate the normal two things to boot from recovery options, backup kernels, etc., so my family isn't confused.)09:40
albackerC-O-L-T, if you use apt-get do this; apt-get install packageName; shutdown -h now           if you are downloading something from somewhere do like this :     wget http://somesite.com/package; shutdown -h now09:40
mjrafief, nope. Though if you're so inclined, xwpe is a turbo-c-like IDE. Would recommend learning new tricks tho.09:40
e_machinistodat: a menu item?09:41
polpakmjr, the problem isn't the IDE, it's the includes etc09:41
albackerC-O-L-T, yes .. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; sudo shutdown -h now09:41
polpakmjr, there's no conio.h on linux09:41
Belboz99anyone know if it's OK to add an unstable debian apt repository to install a single package?09:41
odate_machinist, in the applications menu under system tools09:41
Jowitonyyarusso: yes, that's no problem.09:41
afiefmjr: for me any compiler/ide would do. but those damn college professors seem to have an affair with turbo C09:41
tonyyarussoJowi: How?09:41
C-O-L-Talbacker: but now I can not write to the Konsole because now it is working downloading the gnome, now i can not do it right?09:41
blue-frogBelboz99, u will know if it's ok if it works without breaking things...09:41
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john__why cany i open my installed menu.lst file in gedit from the ubuntu live cd? all i get is gtk-WARNING cannot open display09:41
john__cny=cant09:42
polpakafief, tell them that you can't afford windows, and don't want the enheirant security risks09:42
Belboz99lol, thanks blue-frog :P09:42
e_machinistodat: I ran the firestarter wizard... but it didn't create a gnome menu item. And I am required to run firestarter as root (sudo).09:42
polpakafief, if they want to compile your programs on their windows boxes they can download and install (free of charge) cygwin09:42
albackerC-O-L-T, stop it by doing ctrl+c, than type the command again, and the download will start where it was !09:42
punkrockguy318Hey, I'm running dapper, and I've been running gtkpod from source... There was an update and I'm now getting this error message:09:42
punkrockguy318libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:42
odate_machinist, log out then log back in sometimes you have to do that in order to get programs to show up in the menu09:42
jabraok so the issue is with booting windows with sata09:42
e_machinistodat:  will do.09:42
punkrockguy318I recompiled and I got the same error.. what should I do?09:42
john__ANYONE know how to paste in nano?09:42
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Jowitonyyarusso: title (newline) root (newline). think that should do it.09:42
brian_Kindred: any  ideas?09:43
jabraanyone setup grub to boot an SATA partition?09:43
afiefpolpak: in this country, pirated software is the norm and original stuff is the VERY exception. i have windows here too, but too lazy to change all the time. also want to get my linux skills up09:43
tonyyarussoOkay, so this time around I was smart enough to put /home on a separate partition.  However, I have since acquired quite large /music and /movies that I didn't have before.  Any way I can make those be separate partitions before a reinstall so I don't loose them?09:43
vkhowto add repositores?09:43
techonewhich files system is badger using ext3 reiserfs or something else?09:43
tonyyarussoJowi: Okay, will try that.09:43
dawidubotu ubuntu guide09:43
ubotudawid: No idea09:43
C-O-L-Talbacker: but i want to copy your ideas in order to not to forget and to not to ask again09:43
CptShi, how do i make a module load at startup? i found the right module for my soundcard and it works, but it want it to run when ubuntu starts09:43
mjrpolpak, righto; strange professors to insist on non-standard C09:43
Kindredbrian_, i'm really not sure sorry, it seems you've covered everything I can think of09:43
blue-frogtonyyarusso, they are all on a separate parrtitoin?09:43
polpakmjr, agreed09:43
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john__anyone know how to paste into nano in terminal?09:43
tsumeis there a way to write to ntfs?09:43
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polpakafief, if you just use C standards you should't have any problems09:44
brian_Kindred: is their a program for linux like daemon tools that i can try out?09:44
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techonejohn_, whats nano09:44
Kindredjohn_, ctrl shift v09:44
john__terminal editor09:44
Jowitonyyarusso: you have a spare HDD laying around or enough space on /home ?09:44
polpakafief, but you won't be able to do stuff w/ conio.h09:44
john__text editor09:44
tonyyarussoblue-frog, No, that's the problem.  Right now the two media ones are just part of the / partition, but I'd like to isolate them beforehand.09:44
polpakafief, you'll have to use stdio instead09:44
john__kindred, does that work in nano?09:44
albackerC-O-L-T, ok, write them somewhere,. but you'll learn more during time.. belive me. now just do what people here say and youll start to understand and remember :)09:44
techonewhich files system is badger using ext3 reiserfs or something else?09:44
Kindredjohn_, sure that's why I said it09:44
C-O-L-Talbacker: i see09:44
afiefpolpak: well, i don't mind conio.h if i can find simple replacements for some functions(clearscreen, getcharacter...etc)09:45
Tomcat_techone: Breezy uses ext3 by default09:45
mjrpolpak, there's a "linux-conio.h" which you might or might not find helpful and that I don't know anything more about at http://www.gerald-friedland.de/projects.html09:45
john__kindred, do you know how to select all?09:45
blue-frogtonyyarusso, using a livecd u should be able to resize /09:45
CptSsomeone? how do i make a module load at startup? i found the right module for my soundcard and it works, but it want it to run when ubuntu starts09:45
tonyyarussoJowi: I do have a spare desktop computer, and backed the entire disk up to it with rsync last night.  So, if necessary, I can get stuff back from that, but it takes a little while.  Was wondering if there's a better way.09:45
polpakafief, you can't do clear screen. But all the getchar stuff is in stdio.h09:45
Tomcat_CptS: /etc/modules09:45
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polpakafief, and better still, it's standards compliant09:45
vkanoone who knows in which file i should add reposiores?09:45
Jowitonyyarusso: i don't really know of a simple way09:45
john__kindred, I need to select all, delete and paste that all i need09:45
tonyyarussoblue-frog, Why would it need to be a live CD?09:45
Tomcat_CptS: Just put it in there09:45
john__kindred, and dont know how to lol09:45
CptSTomcat_: what do i put there? i need to load snd-sb16 module.09:45
polpakafief, just write your own clear screen function that output's a page of newlines09:46
tonyyarussoJowi: Okay, just thought it was worth asking.09:46
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kameronbrian_: i took off for a minute. how's it going?09:46
Tomcat_CptS: Just make a new line at the end and put "snd-sb16" in there.09:46
BearHuntercan i use ubuntu as a "live cd" for a server environment?09:46
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CptSTomcat_: thanks. trying.09:46
Jowitonyyarusso: maybe resize a partition, make a new one and copy the stuff over to it?09:46
blue-frogtonyyarusso,  cause i don't know how u can unmount / when u run linux... ask someoone if they know how to do it09:46
tonyyarussoblue-frog, Ah, point.09:46
techone[4294668.305000]  PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a report09:46
techone[4294668.307000]  spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.09:46
techone[4294668.325000]  pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x400-0x47f could not be reserved09:46
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afiefpolpak , mjr: xwpe looks nice, but the run and compile commands just give me empty windows09:47
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tonyyarussoJowi: Would that be any faster really than rsync over a direct crossover ethernet cable connection?09:47
techonewhats with   spurious 8259A interrupt09:47
brian_kameron: no luck at all, tried everything, all the names and syntax are perfect, im hoping i can find a prog like daemon tools that i can use09:47
vkwhere should i type if i want to add repositores,, PLEASE HELP ME09:47
thegladiatorhi09:47
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tonyyarusso!tell vk about sources09:47
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e_machinistMan... firestarter is blocking tons of stuff...09:47
blue-frogvk synaptic09:47
kameronbiran, did you try: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/recovering.html09:47
Jowitonyyarusso: not really. i think that a direct copy is faster.09:48
afiefpolpak , mjr: the file with conio.h, but i don't even get the an error09:48
tonyyarussoe_machinist, It did that for me on dialup too.  Mostly from your ISP's other addresses?09:48
kameronbrian_ oooops, wrong paste, hah09:48
e_machinistMicrosoft-ds... DCOM-scm... etc.09:48
tonyyarussoJowi: Okay, I'll see what I can finagle.09:48
e_machinisttonyyarusso: ISPs other addresses? hmmmm..09:48
slickI installed the ati fglrx according to wiki but if I try to load it I get this: duplicate symbol rol_long in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o any suggestions?09:48
thegladiatorsuddenly i am gettnig no webistes ...09:48
kameronbrian_: did you try... this: mkisofs -J -R -o filename.iso /some/directory09:48
thegladiatorwhat cud be the reason ?09:48
thegladiatorirc is working but09:48
Jowi!tell vk about repositories09:48
tonyyarussoe_machinist, Try whoising them.09:48
e_machinisttonyyarusso: good idea.09:48
tonyyarussoYeah, I know that's not a real word...09:48
nmsahello09:49
nmsaneed some help with cups ...09:49
thegladiatorcan anyone here me ?09:49
nmsalocalhost:631 user/passwd = ?09:49
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joey222Jowi, Installing packes has stalled at 5%09:49
afiefpolpak , mjr: nevermind, looks like they just forgot a redraw call for the messeges window:D thank you people. you are the best09:49
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joey222Downloading file 851 of 852 (0s remaining)09:49
brian_kameron: its doing something, but i dunno what09:49
BearHunterCan i use ubuntu as a "live cd" for a server environment?09:49
e_machinisttonyyarusso: yah, looks like ISP related stuff... but... why are they doing that?09:49
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vktnx, but i want to add them (the repositores) by typing in a textfile, ive done it before but forgotten where to finde the textfile,,, anyoone who knows where i can find it?09:50
techoneI keep getting this message during boot - [4294674.818000]  swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature?09:50
techone  uh how can I turn off suspend to disk09:50
kameronbrian_: don't bother looking for something like daemon tools. this is how it's done in the linux world. you mount your iso in a cdfs, and read it. simple. clean.09:50
tsumewtf09:50
tsumefreebsd has some ntfs write access09:50
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tsumewhy the hell doesn't linux?09:50
Jowijoey222: okay. nice. erhm...09:50
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kamerontsume: don't even get me started09:50
tonyyarussoe_machinist, I don't really understand why, but someone tried to explain it to me as firestarter getting confused with the protocol and how stuff works specifically with dialup services.09:50
tsumesome, meaning has every write access except on encrypted folders :)09:50
Jowivk: /etc/apt/sources.list09:50
tsumekameron: on what?09:50
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tsumekameron: how lame the ntfs linux team is for not porting the cod?E09:51
[A] ndy80tsume: wake up.... kernel 2.6.15 has ntfs writing support....09:51
kamerontsume: why don't we have ntfs write support09:51
Jowigotto go for awhile. c u guys09:51
slickif I use the apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx will it know I need the x686 driver?09:51
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kamerontsume: basically, yeah. there is experimental code, but it doesn't work great.09:51
FarrisGCan anyone tell me how to figure out why my highpoint (fakeraid) RAID 5 array is seeing better write performance than my 3ware RAID 50?09:51
tsume[A] ndy80: FreeBSd has had the write code since 4.x09:51
vkjowi, youre great, tnx09:51
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polpakafief, you should sudo apt-get install manpages-dev to have useful documentation09:51
mmolinahello09:51
brian_kameron: ok it ran that program, what does it do?09:51
mmolinahello09:52
mmolinahello09:52
mmolinahello09:52
kameronbrian_: oh. well. don't run exactly what i wrote09:52
mmolinahello09:52
mmolinahellohello09:52
bluefoxicybahahah09:52
mmolinahello09:52
mmolinahello09:52
bluefoxicythat's awesome09:52
mmolinahello09:52
tsumemmolina: stop09:52
kameronmmolina, stop09:52
bluefoxicyusing video memory as swap09:52
mmolinahello09:52
brian_kameron: i changed it to my files09:52
corresponderhi09:52
tsumemmolina: ignored, you don't get any help09:52
afiefmmolina: this is the best way not to get hekp!09:52
tonyyarusso!tell mmolina about bannable09:52
fissyping seveas ajmitch09:52
e_machinisttonyyarusso: I just had the deutsche telecom ISP get blocked... and it registered as a bit torrent type connection.09:52
kameronbrian_: okay, good. so you put something like... mkisofs -J -R -o cd1.iso /home/brian/cd09:52
mmolinaoki09:52
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brian_kameron: yea09:53
e_machinistI feel... safer now with firestarter and my iptables set up.. haha.09:53
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fissythanks Seveas :)09:53
brian_kameron: mkisofs -J -R -o disk1.iso /mnt/iso09:53
afiefpolpak: installing, but how do i access it?09:53
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BearHunterCan i use ubuntu as a "live cd" for a server environment?09:53
dsl627hi everyone09:53
polpakafief, in console type man getchar09:53
SeveasBearHunter, live and server sounds weird09:53
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tonyyarussoe_machinist, Sorry, not the one to direct questions about it to.  All I know is what people told me last week when I tried firestarter for the first time.09:54
definitydose any one know where i can get all the netwoking commandws for ubuntu atall???????09:54
kameronbrian_: oh man i'm confused. ahhh. i'll get back to you very shortly.09:54
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afiefpolpak: no GUI? i know gui's aren't so important, but they are impressive....09:54
brian_kameron: ok, I need a smoke anyway09:54
techoneSeveas, if mmolina has no way to make amends and behave then banning only creates barriers for people to learn about ubuntu or even bother trying09:54
tonyyarussoBearHunter, Presumably you can, but why?09:54
BearHunterSeveas: OK maybe I shouldn't go down that path then09:54
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odati'm on the other machine now any know how i run fsck to check the hard drive when i'm running off a live cd09:54
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fissyBearHunter, if you wanted to test setting ubuntu up as a server, maybe using vmware or another virtual computer would be better?09:55
e_machinisttonyyarusso: you have been helpful none the less. Just watching the event log of firestarter kinda reminds you that the internet is kinda scary.09:55
e_machinisthaha.09:55
kameronbrian_: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso09:55
polpakafief, I think there is a manpage viewer gui09:55
polpakafief, lemme check09:55
polpakafief, also you might want to check out http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/node18.html#SECTION00180000000000000000009:55
kameronbrian_: that's what i was looking for, i gave you the wrong command09:55
rebeu-bohi tout le monde je vie en france y a t-il qlq qui parle francais09:55
blue-frogubnutu-fr09:55
tonyyarussoe_machinist, I was a little bit worried about the half-dozen or so blocked connections for China, that was odd.09:55
polpakafief, for info on the standard IO functions (rather than the turbo c++ ones)09:55
rebeu-bothere is some one who speak frensh ????09:56
sas171do you think i need some extra firewall? i mean there is allready some build-in kernel modul...09:56
BearHunterI want a server environment that cannot break, ie. you cannot write to a CD-ROM09:56
odatpolpak, whats up?09:56
blue-frogrebeu-bo, ubuntu-fr09:56
e_machinisttonyyarusso: yah... I've been on for like... 10 minutes and already 13 serious blocks have occurred. Ridiculous.09:56
polpake_machinist, it's a false sens of security, as most of the connections it's blocking your computer wasn't listening for in the first place09:56
rebeu-bowhat is mean09:56
afiefpolpak: do you have all this stuff in your head or do you have a flashdrive connected to your neuron network?09:56
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blue-frogrebeu va sur #ubuntu-fr09:56
polpakafief, I have google, and a lot of it in my head09:56
BearHunterso if anything goes wrong, you just reboot the cd09:57
rebeu-bocomment faire stp09:57
mweBearHunter: what's makes you think it cannot break if you can't write to it?09:57
e_machinistpolpak: something is better than nothing.09:57
polpakafief, mostly I just remember how to find things, rather than remembering the things itself09:57
blue-frogrebeu-bo, /join #ubuntu-fr09:57
brian_kameron: ok this time it didnt give me the error msg, how can i tell if it worked?09:57
odatanyone know how i run fsck on a hard drive when i'm running off a live cd09:57
blue-frogBearHunter, and then u redo all the config...09:57
rebeu-book merci bq09:57
polpakodat, I think you just point fsck at the device and it goes09:58
fissyBearHunter, it could still be broken whilst running. I think making a vmware (or similar) image of your perfect server setup and then backing that up to somewhere would be better. if the running vmware server got broken somewhere, you could load up a fresh copy of your server complete with config09:58
techoneSeveas, please unban mmolina so that they have a chance to learn some etiquet and so that they dont go back to microsoft.   those end users get easily frustrated and humans just want to know they were heard in the forest of noise.09:58
polpakodat, fsck /dev/hda1 for example09:58
john__Can anyone help me....i have followed the wiki guide to recovering ubuntu and grub after installing windows, I followed everything but when I try to boot ubuntu I get some error about ext2fs? but my filesystem is ext3?09:58
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kameronbrian_: cd /mnt/iso09:58
fissyBearHunter, or you could do a normal install and make an image of the hard drive09:58
polpakodat, but you have to know the device and partition number09:58
BearHunterI am just talking about the system data, the config can be stored on a USB flash drive09:58
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odatpolpak, how do i check?09:58
tonyyarussoodat: You have to get into the hard disk for your working environment, !grub points to a link for recovering Ubuntu after Windows install, the first two sections of that tell you how.09:59
XHKHow can i get acess to my windwos files? I needed some kind of programm for it.09:59
brian_kameron: ok09:59
BearHunterThere are other live cd server distros out there, i was wondering if Ubuntu would work09:59
blue-frogBearHunter, in case of reboot u will have to reinstall anythingn u have already did...09:59
kameronbrian_ all good in the hood?09:59
brian_kameron: I dunno, im not sure if it mounted the iso09:59
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tonyyarussoodat: Or what polpak said if that's all you need, what I said will let you do a lot more, which might not be what you want.09:59
blue-frogBearHunter, don't put a server on livecd...09:59
kameronbrian_ list the dir?09:59
tonyyarusso!tell XHK about windowsmounts09:59
mad_phoenixnoob question here...what is the name of group 1000?  users?10:00
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blue-frogadmin10:00
e_machinistpretty sure 1000 is admin10:00
tonyyarusso!tell XHK about mountwindows10:00
Seveasmad_phoenix, no it's the same as your username10:00
brian_kameron: it displayed brian@noname:/mnt/iso$10:00
mad_phoenixok...how can i found out which gid's correspond to groupnames?10:00
Sevease_machinist, it's not :)10:00
e_machinistoh wait.10:00
e_machinistSorry Seveas10:00
Seveasmad_phoenix, look in /etc/group10:00
AIVwhere is the "my documents folder in Ubuntu"?10:00
e_machinistWas thinking of local user.10:00
BearHunterok thanks guys, i get your point, maybe it's not a good idea, but . . .10:00
mwemad_phoenix: sudo vigr would answer that10:00
SeveasAIV, /home/your_username10:00
vkcan someone help me to install fglrx-driver10:00
fissyBearHunter, i expect it would work, just seems like weird thing to do10:00
Seveas!tell vk about ati10:00
kameronbrian_ is there anything in the directory?10:00
AIVSeveas, thanks10:01
odattonyyarusso, its pretty f'd up when i try fsck /dev/hda  it tells me the superblock is bad and to run e2fsck with alternate superblock but that doesn't work either10:01
tonyyarussoI didn't know there was a program available for automounting...10:01
brian_kameron: yea my one iso10:01
XHKty tonyyarusso10:01
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phienoxhello there10:01
techoneSeveas, "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.10:01
BearHunteri need a way of backing up and restoring my whole system10:01
vkseveas, ive tried, but when i type apt-get install fglrx-driver it doesnt work10:01
vkive added the reposistories10:01
kameronbearhunter: dd10:01
phienoxi lost the url where i could update the codects etc through the apt-get/synaptic10:01
odattonyyarusso, says something about a bad magic number10:01
phienoxfor totem etc10:01
BearHunterdd?10:01
mwemad_phoenix: but it's the group name of the user (and group with the same name) created during boot10:01
kameronbearhunter: man dd, google it, or something. it's what you want to use.10:02
robertjanyone here have one of them sissy laptops-in-a-desktop pcs?10:02
tonyyarussoIf anyone's in the development for this area: Do people think Ubuntu will have ntfs write support anytime in the foreseeable future?10:02
phienox!media10:02
ubotuphienox: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:02
odattonyyarusso, whats the command for checking my devices?10:02
robertjI'm looking to replace my desktop wish something whisper quiet10:02
mwemad_phoenix: the 'id' command would also answer your question10:02
BearHunterok thanks kameron, going to have a look10:02
definitydose any one know where i can get all the netwoking commandws for ubuntu atall???????10:02
techonemmolina should have a chance to learn from his mistake. it is the human component here that mmolina tripped over10:02
tonyyarussoodat: Sorry, my memory's out.10:02
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phienoxanyone that can help me out ?10:03
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Kindred!restricted10:03
ubotuhmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats10:03
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mwe!helpme10:03
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.10:03
Kindredphienox you want that10:03
kameronbrian_: i just did this: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso and it worked fine. i listed the directory, all was well. what isn't working for you?10:03
phienoxkindred ?10:03
techonemmolina may be a moron but we have giude morons out of being morons (I even have my bad days ;^)10:03
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phienoxi have reset the synaptic to multiverse and stuff10:03
phienoxstill10:03
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Seveastechone, please stop it10:04
mwekameron: it also works with a relative path, doesn't it?10:04
phienoxthere are win32codecs etc that i need to give chell command to apt-get10:04
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amikron_hi all10:04
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DarkPriestdoes ny1 know how 2 migrate from GNOME 2 KDE?10:04
brian_kameron: ok now it does it without givine me an error, and it says nothing after, i dont know if mounted it or not10:04
techoneSeveas, please unban mmolina he doesnt deserve to be shutdown as he was already being told10:04
Seveasbeing annoying is not done in here, so mmolina is out. If (s)he wants back in, (s)he can ask10:04
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phienoxoh ok thy10:04
mweDarkPriest: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:05
Kindredphienox, you have to download the w32codecs - check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:05
brian_kameron: i dont see it in /ect/fstab10:05
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mweDarkPriest: wanna unintall gnome as well?10:05
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techoneSeveas, please let me know how one can ask to be unbanned if they cannot get into the channel10:05
phienoxkidred it was that i was missing ty kidred10:05
P8ntKidIs azureus in the repos?10:05
Seveastechone, he can enter the channel, just muted10:05
dbernar1P8ntKid: no10:05
DarkPriestnops..KDE looks more gorgeous thn gnome10:05
kameronbrian_: type mount, then enter, what does it say?10:05
polpakDarkPriest, that depends on what theme you use10:06
Seveastechone, and for this kind of off-topic discussions we have #ubuntu-offtopic10:06
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BearHunterkameron: ok dd doesnt seem to be very newbie friendly . . .10:06
polpakDarkPriest, my gnome theme looks pretty good10:06
definityany one know where i can get  a newbies guide to compileing i tryed it and it didnt work  :(10:06
definityany ideas10:06
dbernar1what is the vim command for syntax coloring on Ubuntu? Is it :syntax on?10:06
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techoneover the years ive been banned from various channels a few times and have not been able to get back in the channel at all10:06
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dbernar1!compiling10:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware10:06
mweDarkPriest: then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop like I said. to uninstall gnome sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common10:06
polpakdefinity, are you trying to write your own program, or compile someone elses?10:06
mrkoje_dbernar1,  you want the 600 page vim manual from me?10:06
brian_kameron:/home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)10:06
brian_/home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop1)10:06
brian_/home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop2)10:06
brian_/home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop3)10:06
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SeveasNEVER paste in here10:06
definitycompile someone else like i download the .tar.gz10:07
dbernar1mrkoje_: who wrote it, and how do I get it?10:07
polpak!paste10:07
definityand i need to comile from ther10:07
ubotuhmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:07
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kameronbrian_: you mounted it.. serveral times.10:07
DarkPriesthow come people say KDE offers better control and functionality10:07
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mrkoje_dbernar1,  just a second10:07
techonewell until I reset my ips and various things as my buddy runs the isp10:07
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kameronbrian_ umount it and do it just once. then you should be able to change to that directory and view it.10:07
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BearHunterbasically i want a way to backup my server minus my data (mp3's, video etc) and if something goes wrong, have an easy way to restore the system10:07
stewskiwhats the fastest ogg ripper?10:07
mwekameron: can't you mount the iso with a relative path?10:08
BearHunteri will backup my data separately10:08
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kameronBearHunter: basically, dd works like that. dd if=/dev/device/ of=/the/destination10:08
mrkoje_dbernar1,  http://fc4.ath.cx/vimbook-OPL.pdf10:08
kameronmwe relative path?10:08
MW|F00d8-)10:08
kameronmwe loopbacks seem to be the standard way to do things10:08
mwekameron: yeah like just the file name, provided it's in your workingdir10:09
kameronmwe e.g./10:09
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kameron?10:09
corresponderdoes someone use a  siemens scenic mobile 510 agp?10:09
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ScootaDootaBearhunter: what media are you going to use for the backup10:09
definityany links or guide any one know to compile10:09
dbernar1k, got it, thanks.10:09
stewskino hints on a good ogg ripper?10:09
BearHunteri have an external usb HD10:10
AIVwhere does one go to change color themes in Ubuntu?10:10
mwekameron: mount -o loop name.iso /mnt/iso10:10
AIVfound it10:10
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mrkoje_AIV,  System >> Preferences >> Themes10:10
rich-ok, bad errors10:10
AIVnevermind10:10
mwekameron: instead of mount -o loop /home/foobar/name.iso /mnt/iso10:10
AIVthanks10:10
kameronmwe: but you need to provide the filesystem type also10:10
yanisdo you have any idea where I can find a deb package for firefox 1.5?10:11
g0juanyone knows how to add a city to the gnome weather applet?10:11
mrkoje_AIV,  If I were you I would download the Gnome-Art package10:11
rich-when ubuntu loads up.. it goes through all the system checks ... ok stuff then says "configuring base installation" then goes to the install screen again10:11
BearHunterbut i dont want to backup my data files10:11
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mwekameron: I thought usually it would autodetect it10:11
mrkoje_AIV,  It makes downloading, viewing and installing themes pretty simple10:11
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john__anyone know if the order of initrd and kernel for an operating system in the grub menu.lst file matters?10:11
blue-frogstewski, soundjuicer10:11
kameronmwe: never hurts to be specific10:11
mwekameron: anyway I was wondering why it gave him no such file10:12
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kameronmwe yeah that was weird10:12
ahzIn Ubuntu is there something like Fedora's kudzu?  I need to reconfigure hardware after I cloned a system to a computer with different hardware.  Now X doesn't work.10:12
FREAKi have a question10:12
AIVmrkoje, gnome-art package, can I get through apt get?10:12
mwe!helpme10:12
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.10:12
tsumeSeveas: hey, what option is the mode for request?10:12
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tsumeSeveas: for thekicking..10:12
Sturgeonahz: why didn't you just make a clean install?10:12
rich-!helpme10:12
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.10:12
FREAKhow do i do a dual boot of linux (ubuntu) and windows *CRINGE!*10:12
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rich-pfft10:13
ahzSturgeon: it's faster to clone when setting up many systems with a certain configuration10:13
SPLcrazyanyone want to cyber add me sam8701@hotmail.co.uk10:13
SeveasFREAK, pop in the ubuntu installer and follow the instructions...10:13
SPLcrazyim female 19 yo10:13
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mweFREAK: just install ubuntu and it will create a dual boot for you10:13
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FREAKoh ok10:13
Sturgeonahz: not if things don't work after :)10:13
mrkoje_haha10:13
afiefpolpak: need to upgrade my head... have they released any new models?10:13
FREAKcool10:13
afiefpolpak: do you know where the rand() function is declared?10:13
kremontequestion, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules10:13
mweFREAK: provided windows is already installed of course10:13
mrkoje_SPLcrazy seems to be stuck in 199610:13
FREAKyea10:13
mrkoje_thats the last time I heard "Cyber"10:13
TTilusahz: learn to script installer10:14
mrkoje_lol10:14
ScootaDootalol10:14
ahzSturgeon: Previously I used Fedora where it would use kuduz on every boot, detect  hardware changes, and change settings as necessary10:14
FREAKthx10:14
TTilusahz: thats the "debian way" of cloning, afaik10:14
FREAKim off to install now\10:14
Sturgeonah10:14
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phienoxunfortunately it doesnt bring the all media codect inside it10:15
CodenameKTahz: did u prefer that setting of kuduz on every boot?10:15
kameroni got 15 ubuntu cds in the mail today :D:D:D i was impressed.10:15
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sharpfurniturehi10:15
phienoxkameron, only 15 ?10:15
sharpfurnitureim trying to get data from windows10:15
ibmnotebookwie kann ich einen ubuntu WEBDAV SERVER einrichten, so dass ich von anderen Ubuntu- und Windowsrechnern drauf zugreifen kann??10:16
sas171just noticed: if you type http://http:// in firefox it will bring you to microsoft.com =)))10:16
phienoxi ordered 50010:16
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kremontewoohoo ubuntu =^)10:16
sharpfurnitureim getting daya from my windows hard drive10:16
Seveasibmnotebook, english bitte10:16
Seveas!de10:16
kameronphienox: yeah. small town. don't think i'll be able to hand out anymore than that.10:16
ubotufrom memory, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de10:16
sharpfurniturefrom the livecd10:16
sovvy2009lol sas171, i just did that - did the same. how odd10:16
sharpfurnitureand every time i try to compress it, the livecd freezes10:16
phienoxi got emty in one day10:16
sas171=)10:16
Seveas!no de is <reply> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de10:16
ubotuokay, Seveas10:16
sharpfurniturewhat shound i do?10:16
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sharpfurniture*should10:16
ahzConenameKT: I'm not certain what you mean, but I do prefer Fedora Core's kudzu on every boot to Ubuntu apparently not offering to recognize new hardware.10:16
sharpfurniturei have to have it as one file10:16
phienoxi just went to the nearest university10:16
sharpfurnitureto host it10:16
sharpfurniturecan someone listen?10:16
phienoxand had a table and handed out cd's10:16
Seveasahz, Ubuntu recognizes it without interaction...10:17
kameronphienox: haha, rad dude.10:17
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kremonteyes sharpfurniture?10:17
ibmnotebookHow can i install an UBUNTU WEBDAV SERVER (i want to have WebDAV access from other ubuntu computers and windows)10:17
phienoxit was all gone within 2 hours10:17
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sharpfurniturethanks kremonte10:17
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sharpfurnitureim on the livecd, and i moutned my windows hard drive10:17
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Seveasibmnotebook, apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-dav10:17
CodenameKTahz: that is what i was asking. and tell me what were u installing that u could not just run it after boot if need be with new hardware installs?10:17
sharpfurnitureim getting my thunderbird and firefox data10:17
kremontewhat are you trying to compress?10:17
sharpfurniturethunderbird and firefox data10:17
AIVI downloaded gnome-art with synaptic, but I couldn't get it via apt-get10:17
sharpfurniturei have a LOT of inbox messages10:17
sharpfurnitureabout a gig worth10:17
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sharpfurnitureno, less10:17
sharpfurniture250mb10:17
sharpfurniture341.0 MB10:18
spottedCan anyone tell me how to manage rcN.d and init.d?10:18
spottedI mean10:18
kremonteyou are using tar?10:18
sharpfurnitureno10:18
sharpfurnituretar.gz10:18
spottedsome services like samba appear both in rc and init10:18
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Seveasspotted, update-rc.d or system -> admin -> services10:18
sharpfurnitureshould i use tar?10:18
kremontewhat erro are you getting?10:18
ahzCodenameKT: I installed a Ubuntu image on different hardware and now my Xserver is not starting10:18
sharpfurniturekremonte, no error10:18
sharpfurnitureit just freezes10:18
slick!ati10:18
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1010:18
phienoxi wish there were some kind of rsync capability to do at bootup ., so one could have an rsync server somewhere so when booting up with a live CD one could rsync scripts and saved files from this one at boot up of the liveCD ...10:18
phienoxjust a suggestion10:19
polpakafief, if you just type man rand10:19
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polpakafief, it will tell you what you need to include10:19
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CodenameKTahz: is it giving you an error?10:19
TTilussharpfurniture: are you hd's mouted read only or read-write?10:19
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afiefpolpak: i did. sorry, seems my network cable was loose10:19
JoeBlowhow do i allow all users to read and write my ext3 partition?10:19
kremontepossibly break up the files? maybe your computer cannot handle that many at once10:19
sharpfurnitureTTilus, i cant mount ntfs with read-write10:19
polpakafief,  ah. no worries10:19
SeveasJoeBlow, chmod a+w10:19
sharpfurnitureactually, it might be read-right10:19
sharpfurniture*write10:19
sharpfurniturelol10:19
sharpfurniturehow do i check?10:19
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dawidafeif have you been helped now?10:19
ahzCodenameKT: The log shows that it is trying to load an ATI driver (as with the computer where the image was made), but lspci show I have a matrix VGA10:19
TTilussharpfurniture: can you write to disk?10:19
JoeBlowSeveas: type that in console or what?10:19
kremonteby default i believe ubuntu only has read support on ntfs drives10:20
sharpfurnitureTTilus, you want me to write a file?10:20
SeveasJoeBlow, man chmod :)10:20
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TTilussharpfurniture: sort of  :)10:20
Seveaskremonte, correct10:20
afiefpolpak: i guess i'm starting to bug, but do you know how i can setup or connect to an ad-hoc wireless network?10:20
ahz /matrix/matrox/10:20
phienoxi also wonder if the live CD for 5.04 has ntfs write support ?10:20
Seveasafief, man iwconfig10:20
sharpfurnituremkdir: cannot create directory `asdfasdfasdfsdfasdf': Read-only file system10:20
jendaJoeBlow: yes, console10:20
tsumephienox: no10:20
TTilussharpfurniture: or just ln -l to check permissions10:20
polpakafief, system->administration->network10:20
tsumephienox: I just tried10:20
phienoxbad luck =)10:20
CodenameKTahz: that is an easy fix  i personally run xf86 so the command is different give me once second10:20
sharpfurnitureim read-only10:20
tsumephienox: the .15 ernel has it10:20
phienoxok10:20
polpakafief, or man ifconfig10:20
TTilussharpfurniture: ok, where are you trying to save your compressed date?10:20
tsumephienox: linux lags behind bsd in ntfs support ;)10:21
phienoxthe only one i have here is the 5.0410:21
polpakafief, for the command line version10:21
sharpfurnitureTTilus, /home/ubuntu10:21
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john__anyone find evolution unstable in breezy?10:21
TTilussharpfurniture: do you have a media you can write to?10:21
tsumephienox: if you need tools for on site, I recommend using Freesbier10:21
sharpfurnitureTTilus, im writing temporary10:21
tsume*Freebie10:21
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afiefpolpal: i tried both, it just doesn't seem to work10:21
CodenameKTahz: basically u will need to change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use a vga driver but there is a setup10:21
TTilussharpfurniture: ok10:21
sharpfurniturethen im sending to filefactory.com10:21
polpakjohn_, I find it somewhat sluggish when using imap, but Imap tends to be that way for any client. Other than that, no10:21
phienoxtsume i can bypass it anyhows10:21
kremontehave you tried breaking it up into less files per tar?10:21
phienoxthere are programs to do so =)10:21
john__im using pop310:21
afiefpolpak: but i could never actually create my own adhoc network10:21
JoeBlowjenda: when i type chmod a+w , obviously it doesnt do it, what am i missing?10:21
phienoxstill having kernel support always helps10:22
ahzCodenameKT: OK10:22
kremontecoz from experience tarring 8000 files has crashed my pc =^)10:22
sharpfurnitureTTilus, im running a 2.4ghz intel with 512 mb ram - if i were to tar around 400mb, would my comp freeze over?10:22
tsumephienox: I'm a working kid on technology, I must have tools :)10:22
ph8odd question but how do i found out what version of ubuntu i'm running?10:22
phienoxic10:22
phienoxi jsut c0ollect tools10:22
john__i had evo, gaim and firefox 1.5 "firefox running from a folder in home) and ubuntu has completely locked up with my pc hdd read light going mental!10:22
sharpfurnitureSystem->about ubuntu10:22
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sharpfurnitureph810:22
sharpfurnitureSystem->about ubuntu10:22
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CodenameKTahz: try zorg -configure10:22
polpakph8, lsb_base -a10:22
CodenameKTahz: try xorg -configure10:22
phienoxtsume , using live CD's is usually the way i install LFS/gentoo10:22
sampanph8 you could also type: cat /etc/issue  in console10:22
kremontequestion, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules10:22
TTilussharpfurniture: it could10:23
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ph8where does it say that on that display?10:23
sharpfurniturei already tried doing tar.gz twice10:23
polpakbah10:23
sharpfurnitureand i really need this data10:23
kremontesharpfurniture: try not tarring them all at once10:23
sharpfurnitureits for my business10:23
ph8ah much better sampan, cheers10:23
polpakph8, lsb_release -a10:23
TTilussharpfurniture: but i'd expect tarring to crash rather than system freeze10:23
sampanph8 sure :)10:23
tsumephienox: oh, heh. I don't mess with any of those. I'm too good for them.10:23
ph85.10 = breezy?10:23
phienoxstill if there was rsync support at bootup in init.d scripts etc10:23
sharpfurnitureTTilus, system freezes, sadly10:23
polpakph8, yes10:23
ph8i'm trying to install the fglrx drivers and i can't drag that far down the screen lol10:23
kremontesharpfurniture: have you tried tarring less files at once?10:23
phienoxi might use liveCD's asa worjking solution when being guest at some systems10:23
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TTilussharpfurniture: does it happen immediately when you start tar?10:24
P8ntKidWhy does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?10:24
sharpfurnitureTTilus, no10:24
sharpfurnitureim not using tar, im using gui10:24
phienoxtsume, u dont use gentoo ?10:24
sharpfurniturefile-roller10:24
polpakph8 http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver10:24
TTilussharpfurniture: do you know at what point it happens10:24
tsumephienox: no10:24
sas171how to start X11 configuration utility... there was a command like dpkg-reconfigure...10:24
phienoxtsume, if you are good why not ?10:24
kremontesharpfurniture: it's still tarring them =^)10:24
ph8polpak:  i can't drag far enough down the screen...10:24
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joey222am getting boared waiting on these packages ti install10:24
ph8i don't think an faq will help10:24
tsumephienox: I use NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and when it doesn't wor or doesn't have specs I need.. Ubuntu or Debian10:24
polpakSeveas, just curious, but why doesn't ubotu reference help.ubuntu.com/starterguide for the ATI and NVIDIA drivers?10:24
ph8there needs to be a built in arrow! ;)10:24
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polpakph8, pagedown ?10:25
john__is ubuntu supposed to be as good as windows at multitasking? ie having several apps open at once10:25
Seveaspolpak, because it links directly to the right instructions10:25
TTilussharpfurniture: i'd go with $ tar -cjf tarfile.tar filestotar10:25
phienoxtsume, so u are a phoilosophic follower of a certain license ?10:25
polpak!ati10:25
ubotusomebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1010:25
robertj_john: yup10:25
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CptShi again, i need help with encoding of filenames after i mount a network windows xp share using smbfs (mount smbfs -o username=me,password=pass //compname/share /mnt/share), when i browse to the folder using smb:// i see the filenames right.10:25
robertj_john: multitasking is definately _not_ a problem ;)10:25
tsumephienox: Does have to deal with licensing yes.10:25
TTilussharpfurniture: then you'd at least have error messages at console10:25
phienoxtsume, no offense but i feel that is BS =)10:26
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TTilusjohn__: way better10:26
ahzCodenameKT: "Xorg -configure" gives "Missing output drives.  Configuration failed."10:26
phienoxas i use whatever that works fastest =)10:26
polpakSeveas, I suppose.. But if people knew about the starter guide they might look there before asking another (different question) that is covered in it10:26
SweetestSavageDoes anyone know of any application for Linux that records the desktop? IE, does the same thing as this program: http://www.fraps.com/ ?10:26
john__robertj_, well i must be having issues, either ff 1.5, evo, or gaim is crashing ubuntu10:26
tsumephienox: I write some modules for BSD which I use. Opensource is great, but there are leeches who just use linux/ etc  as a crutch, wait for other people to develop, and suck up all the glory10:26
Belboz99Woot! I got Kino to work!10:26
ph8won't work polpak10:26
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phienoxtsume, same goes for your stuff10:26
tsumephienox: like I sid, I write my own modules for some things, and other people don't need my code.10:26
Belboz99I had to use the Debian Sid Repostiories though :(10:26
phienoxno matter which livense u use10:26
kameronSweetestSavage Camtasia?10:26
SweetestSavagekameron, I'll check it out10:26
existancehow can i remove everything in a directory and the directory in one line?10:26
ph8this is very aggravating10:26
TTilusjohn__: does it logout, freeze or reboot or what?10:27
robertj_john: on breezy?10:27
tsumephienox: now.. its different when I'm helping with someone elses project though, or if I'm getting paid to write the code.10:27
ph8i can't select 5.10 and get to the ok button because they're off the bottom of the screen10:27
CptSsomeone, plz?10:27
kameronSweetestSavage i don't know if it's for linux, but.. yeah. i'll have a look for oyu.10:27
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tsumephienox: I don't have an endless amount of money, and nobody has asked me to write code for money.10:27
djlilyazii have a questiong..about root password10:27
SweetestSavagekameron, okay thanks10:27
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djlilyazii am trying to install JAVA10:27
tsume*opensource code for money10:27
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MW|F00dlol10:27
phienoxtsume, i see i am an ex programmer who turnbed mathematician instead =)10:27
tsumephienox: so therefore, I don't feel the need to write code (modules) for linux.10:27
Belboz99djlilyazi, same password as your user10:27
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tsumephienox: mathematician++10:28
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PerryJrhey mike10:28
phienoxyah10:28
PerryJrhey mike it's perry10:28
john__anyone know any software to read hardware temperatures?10:28
michaelriheyy10:28
polpakdjlilyazi, there is no root password because you are intended to use sudo not root10:28
phienoxive written programs also10:28
tsumephienox: you work on any of the numerics libs?10:28
phienoxno i dont10:28
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michaelripoopie10:28
PerryJrhaha10:28
phienoxthe programs ive written were for security tests10:28
existancehow can i remove everything in a directory and the directory in one line?10:28
Belboz99djlilyazi, you're actually running as a normal user with root priveleges, so it's your normal user password. ;)10:28
tsumephienox: oh.10:28
JoeBlowcan someone please help me with chmod, i dont know what to type along with chmod a+w , i read the manual , and i cant find it10:28
phienoxon all unix variants10:28
TTilusjohn__: sensors?10:28
EstaloHey guys, what app need I use to decode ogg files and then encode as mp3?10:28
djlilyazipolpak, thank you so sudo ?10:28
polpak!sudo10:29
ubotu[root]  by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password10:29
phienoxbut that was about 8 years ago10:29
existanceJoeBlow, what are you trying to chmod?10:29
john__TTilus, yeah10:29
tsumephienox: oh?10:29
tsumephienox: what do you donow exactly?10:29
JoeBlowexistance: my root directory10:29
djlilyazipolpak, i dont have any other user buy me10:29
phienoxso ive turned more ignorant =)10:29
phienoxlol10:29
polpakdjlilyazi, are you trying to install java from SUN ?10:29
TTilusEstalo: why would you want to do that?10:29
djlilyazipolpak, yes..10:29
existanceJoeBlow, uhhh, can I ask why?10:29
tsumephienox: oh, so you get a paycheck for being cenile? :D10:29
Belboz99djililyazi, you'd be suprised how many users you actually have10:29
PerryJra lesxix you there?10:29
phienoxwell i do study mathematics10:29
JoeBlowexistance: it wont let me delete or copy files from it10:29
EstaloTTilus, my brother wants the files, and he can only play mp3 or atrac10:29
existanceJoeBlow, use sudo10:29
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phienoxthat is what im paid for10:30
sas171how to configure XKB?10:30
tsumephienox: such a broad area :) what is your speciality?10:30
PerryJrhey everuyone.. it's perry10:30
tsume*specialty10:30
kremonteexistance: to remove files + dir you can can rm * ; cd .. ; rmdir dir i think10:30
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phienoxprogramming or computer security or eficiece etc is a hobby10:30
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EstaloThe latter part is easy, I was just wondering how to decode the ogg back into .wav or something10:30
existancekremonte, yea, but there are directories in the directory :/10:30
dartehi there10:30
polpakdjlilyazi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca10:30
Belboz99rm -rf /dir/path works for me10:30
tsumephienox: no, I mean mathematics special of study10:30
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dbeckerexistance: what about rm -rf <dir> ?10:30
existancedbecker, gratzi10:31
phienoxits combinatorics10:31
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john__by rule of thumb, how big should my AGP aperture size be in my bios?10:31
darteim trying to install dapper .. i'm having some probs with repositories ..10:31
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PerryJrleeanne10:31
polpakdjlilyazi, that gives instructions on how to install the latest java in ubuntu10:31
PerryJrwhats up10:31
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john__half the size of my AGP card memory?10:31
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phienoxnot the ones u learn in stats =)10:31
michaelrichoo choo10:31
djlilyazipolpak, you are the best i swear...10:31
dbeckerexistance: -r flag to rm means recursive, -f means force deletion of direcories10:31
JoeBlowexistance: its just a few folders in it wont let me change them to write10:31
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JoeBlowexistance: it let me write them 2 minutes ago10:31
TTilusEstalo: oggdec?10:31
c_voidja bin noch da10:31
c_voidaber das mit dem fenster wechseln klappt nicht10:31
djlilyaziBelboz99, what do you mean i have many users ?10:31
EstaloTTilus, thanks :D10:32
c_voidwie mach ich mir denn ein neues fenster auf?10:32
john__ANYONE, does anyone know what size my AGP aperture should be in my bios, is it double or half of my AGP memory?10:32
existanceJoeBlow, do you know how to use sudo?10:32
Estaloit's hard to find :(10:32
tsumec_void: sprechen English or die :)10:32
dbeckerI have good news, I think I've figured out the problem with my laptop hanging. DMA conflict with my CD drive was hanging the e100 driver for my NIC10:32
Belboz99djlilyazi, Linux is a true mulit-user system.  Take a look in Users and Groups under "System"10:32
existancedbecker, yea, i wasn't sure what the recursion would do :/10:32
JoeBlowexistance: one second bro, wife10:32
c_voidsry, wrong channel ^^10:32
tsumec_void: :D10:32
phienoxtsume, still its hard so say its one field though since it intersects with analytical calculus , topology , abstract algebra etc10:32
dbeckerCD drive may be going bad, too, which complicated things10:32
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phienoxeven with formal languages an automata theory10:33
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PerryJrlee ann10:33
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leeannsup10:33
leeannlol10:33
darteis there any repository sync going on now?10:33
ScootaDootajohnj_:  check this http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/aperture-size/10:33
PerryJrhehe.. mr alden is gayy10:33
alexiscperry?10:33
dartei keep on getting new things with apt update10:33
ph8if i wanted to left mouse click with a button on the keyboard how would i go about it?10:33
PerryJrsorry that was michael10:33
TTilusdjlilyazi: no, your machine is not popped, the users you have listed are not like persons but other progs and so on10:33
ph8actually ignore that10:33
PerryJryeah10:33
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PerryJrthis is perry10:33
alexiscomg this is stupid10:34
Hericus?10:34
dbeckerph8: figure it out? I'm curious, can you do it with keymap?10:34
ph8Guys, the resolution on my laptop with ubuntu is so screwed up i can't see the bottom of installation software for the new graphics drivers10:34
phienoxtsume, right now im doing work related to kolmogorov entropy10:34
Belboz99djlilyazi, ok, Ubuntu does't seem to be showing all the users, but there are really all sorts of users besides normal users.  I have an ftp user and there's root, and so forth, but you can see a lot of groups in there anyway10:34
ph8i can't get down to the right option and even if i did i'd need to get down further to the ok button10:34
dbeckerph8: does ctl-alt-plus/minus work?10:34
ph8any ideas at all?10:34
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tsumephienox: you do programming with the math?10:34
phienoxnot much10:35
tsumeoh :(10:35
phienoxnotnthe stuff i do10:35
TTilusph8: ctrl-alt-f1 and do it on console10:35
tsumeyou are missing all the fun :)10:35
phienoxnah10:35
tsumeall the hair pulling algorithms :)10:35
phienoxnumerical methods ust a small subset of mathematics10:35
djlilyaziBelboz99, how do i become the most powerfull user with alll access ?10:35
phienoxso is the simulation theories10:35
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tsumethe ones which you use FORtran and the compaq compile :P10:35
ph8ttilus, it's an x environment install10:35
polpakdjlilyazi, use sudo10:35
tsume*compiler10:35
Belboz99djlilyazi, try checking, "show all users"  to see what I mean10:35
ph8i think i can do it from the cmd line actually10:35
ph8good thinking ;)10:35
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phienoxtsume, thats not real math10:35
ph8dbecker: no, no difference10:35
phienoxits formal language and somain theory10:36
phienox=910:36
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ph8well it makes a diff but the furthest out i can get is what i have atm10:36
phienoxdomain even10:36
phienox=)10:36
PerryJrhello?10:36
phienoxthat the computer science part of math10:36
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Belboz99djlilyazi, assign a root password to root, but be VERY carefull what you do as root and do NOT log in as root10:36
vkcan someone help me with ati drivers for 5 minutes, ive read wiki but still cant find out how to do10:36
phienoxim more interested in building more disciplinces10:36
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phienoxlike gdel10:36
phienoxor turing =910:36
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phienoxno real computers required10:36
tsumephienox: I see :)10:36
phienox=)10:36
polpakvk, what's the problem?10:36
tsumephienox:  numberics programming is still a tough job ;)10:37
Belboz99djlilyazi, I've already trashed Ubuntu a few times by using sudo, root is even easier to screw things up10:37
polpakdjlilyazi, don't give root a password10:37
TTilusphienox: the real thin!  good!10:37
phienoxsure it is10:37
tsumephienox: I've a friend who is almost bald :)10:37
djlilyaziBelboz99, it just asked me for a password10:37
phienoxapplied linear algebra isnt simple10:37
TTilusphienox: ...thing... even...10:37
phienoxstill its another kind of jo than i like10:37
polpakdjlilyazi, if you absolutely positively MUST use a root enabled shell10:37
EstaloOk, now is there an easy way to let LAME do multiple files at once (i.e. a whole folder?)10:37
polpakdjlilyazi, use sudo -i10:37
phienoxjo = job10:37
AIVok, once I got ubuntu the way I want it, is there maybe a ghost like app that I can use to image my install to an external drive, or cd, or flash drive?10:37
tsumephienox: my friend is a EE, he woks with intelligent energy systems10:37
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tsumephienox: I've seen his code... its in C++ :( so unreadable too10:37
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vkpolpak, im trying to use the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:38
polpakdjlilyazi, there is no reason to give root a real password, and many reasons not to10:38
phienoxwhat is an intelligent energy system ? =)10:38
dbeckerAIV: dd is crude but effective10:38
polpakvk, ok10:38
TTilusEstalo: for f in $(ls *.wav); do lame $f; done10:38
michaelriSno0o0o0o0o0o0o0ooooooooooooooooooooooop10:38
polpakvk, what's the problem?10:38
TTilusEstalo: or like...10:38
djlilyazipolpak, i dont have one for sure lol10:38
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michellelhi10:38
tsumephienox: everything from power plants designs to networks10:38
michaelriduz anyoone kno what 2+3 us?10:38
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michellelno10:38
djlilyazipolpak, so how do i become like the user with all access i guess10:38
Belboz99polak, I tend to like using the su command when I have to do a lot of root-acess-only stuff, like installing packages from apt-get10:38
polpakdjlilyazi, if you need to be the administrative user use sudo and then type your normal password10:38
mrkoje_michaelri, no10:39
vkpolpak, ive runned step1 whitout problem , but when im typing step 2 in the cosole, it says fglrx10:39
tsumephienox: he has this uber library and app which is currently at snob city CMU10:39
djlilyazioh10:39
polpakdjlilyazi, sudo -i10:39
dbeckerAIV: also google for g4u, that's a more ghost-like program10:39
polpakvk, pastebin the error if it's more than 1 line pls10:39
ScootaDootaI never use sudo10:39
michelleluugh10:39
phienoxtsume, my current work is to formulate a model ( more an algebraic system ) as a tool for measuring efficiece in systems processes10:39
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Estel|ukthanks TTilus  :D10:39
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phienoxmeaning10:39
phienoxalso10:39
mweBelboz99: just sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need it10:39
dawidhey , does any1 know what that GUI is called that allows u transparent windows and stuff10:40
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ScootaDootapolpak......hahahaha.....you funny10:40
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phienoxone implication is showing that this model can tell ther what you thought was efficient is not at all10:40
phienoxonly temporarilye efficience10:40
Belboz99mwe, thanks, didn't know that one :)10:40
phienoxbut in the long run because of tneropy accounted10:40
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phienoxa system could be ininefficient in the long run10:40
vkpolpak, echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules, and the console says fglrx10:40
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phienoxbecause it affects the ntropy if the system checked10:40
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djlilyazipolpak, yeah it worked and i saw 100000000 other users too10:41
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phienoxsince incresed entropy means more energy required to get work done10:41
polpakvk, is that a problem?10:41
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mwevk: it still adds it to /etc/modules10:41
phienoxwhich is rarelky seen in engineering calculations when considering if a system is efficient or intelligent enough10:41
vkand if i now change ati in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to fglrx it wont work10:41
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phienoxstill10:41
vkx doesnt start10:41
phienoxim not an engineer10:41
phienoxjsut a mmathematician spitting out algebras etc for use by engineers10:42
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polpakvk, did you reboot ?10:42
vkpolpak, yes10:42
vkpolpak, i cant figure out why10:42
polpakvk, type lsmod | grep fgl10:42
michaelriyo yo yo10:42
phienoxtsume, the models can be used to check super computer's parallelle processing also10:43
gnomefreakvk, mine did the same thing so i gave up on it lol10:43
kameronassuming i get CS:S working through wine this weekend, i'm going windows-less for the rest of my life10:43
phienoxbecause data canbe seen with entropy and astuff10:43
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mwegnomefreak: but IIRC you have a rather old card, right? :)10:43
vkgnomefreak, so you still doesnt have 3d acc10:43
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darteis there possible in dapper (us repositories) to install ubuntu-desktop?10:43
phienoxso the discipline could be seen as a tool to investigate processes10:44
vkpolpak, yes and then?10:44
C-O-L-Talbacker: i AM BACK10:44
gnomefreaki have old onboard vc10:44
phienoxor systms if its purely mathematical10:44
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mwegnomefreak: rage something that isn't supported right?10:44
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polpakvk, pastebin the output10:44
phienoxand being a EE u can do some lumped matter abstractions also10:44
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C-O-L-Talbacker: It works, thanks I have common menus and everything. Everything is fine10:44
gnomefreakvk,  no i didnt bother with it figured the 3D in the card name was a lie and havent installed my other one yet10:44
polpakvk, or was there any?10:44
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phienoxbut still use the discipline to chaeck if it works as u want10:44
phienox=)10:44
Bwlif I install dapper, will it break my system or something like debian unstable/experimental?10:44
vkpolpak, no output10:44
gnomefreakmwe,  right my rage pro wouldnt work10:44
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polpakvk, ok then something isn't right10:44
hypn0i want to try some php programming locally offline, do i just install php5?10:45
gnomefreakBwl, yes it will10:45
polpakvk, can you pastebin the output of lspci ?10:45
gnomefreakits breaking mine as we speak10:45
ClayGI'm cutting my own Cat5e cable, it's a bitch to get them the "connectors" , anyone know a good guide to show an easier/right way?10:45
albackerC-O-L-T, im happy10:45
C-O-L-Talbacker: I am happy too10:45
Bwlgnomefreak: ok, good luck fixing it then. :/10:45
Kindredhypn0, and apache210:45
vkpolpak, 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Host Bridge (rev 01)10:45
vk0000:00:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Audio Controller10:45
vk0000:00:00.2 Modem: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Modem Controller10:45
vk0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX ISA Bridge (rev 01)10:45
vk0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82440MX EIDE Controller10:45
vk0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX USB Universal Host Controller10:45
C-O-L-Talbacker: soon I am going because here is 11:4510:45
vk0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Power Management Controller10:45
polpakvk NO10:45
vk0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  (rev 09)10:45
vk0000:00:13.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 02)10:45
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polpakvk, don't paste here10:45
vk0000:00:13.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 02)10:45
gnomefreakBwl, ty10:45
vk0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M (rev 64)10:45
C-O-L-Talbacker: Have a good night10:45
polpakvk, use pastebin10:45
Kindredhypn0, oh wait nevermind sorry.10:46
C-O-L-Talbacker: we will chat later10:46
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ScootaDootayikes...look at at that dmesg10:46
ashwinhi is there any command which tells me which version of ubuntu i'm running ?10:46
gnomefreakvk has simialr card but not same10:46
vkpolpak, ??10:46
vkpastebin?10:46
gnomefreaki dont know what the p/m is10:46
phienoxvk u may make use of nomorepasting.com or similar10:46
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dawidkde looks nice, who would suggest i install it?10:46
gnomefreak!pastebin10:46
tsumevk: please use nopaste10:46
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:46
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Kindredashwin, cat /etc/lsb-release10:46
phienoxor any other pastebin10:46
hypn0okay, tnx Kindred10:46
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albackerC-O-L-T, for more help about gnome  join #gnome, ill probably get to sleep soon..10:46
ashwinthanx Kindred10:47
vkpolpak, do you have an idea of what the problem is?10:47
polpakvk, ah.. The problem is that you don't have a radeon afaict. You have a ATI rage.. you shouldn't use the fglrx drivers I don't think10:47
definitydose any onw know if airodump work with the IPW2200B/G wireless care ?10:47
gnomefreakOOo2 is broken in dapper the lang. files atleast10:47
polpakvk, But on a radeon 9600 the wiki should work fine10:47
dawidwhat is a nice C++ Editor (GUI)10:47
phienoxnano ?10:47
dbeckerdawid: xemacs10:47
polpakdawid, I like jedit for programming stuff10:47
phienox=)10:47
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robertj_what's the best value-card these days?10:48
vkpolpak, okay, kk, do you have any idea of which driver i can use10:48
phienoxor maybe vi10:48
polpakvk, just the ati one I think10:48
gnomefreak<<has a radeon downstairs but i dont know the model thats why i havent put it in yet10:48
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phienoxwell for serious programming emaxs works fine10:48
polpakgnomefreak, it should say on the card10:48
vkpolpak, but then i have no 3d acc10:48
gnomefreakcard for what?10:48
gnomefreakpolpak, i wish it was that easy :((10:48
phienoxthere exist elisp stuff that can aid you in coding etc10:48
polpakvk, true, but that's ati's fault. They won't release the specs10:48
gnomefreakvk no you wont10:49
phienoxhmm10:49
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vkATI sucks, thanx anyon10:49
vkee10:49
phienox=)10:49
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vkhave a nice day polpak and gnomefreak10:49
polpakvk, you can use radeon cards no problem10:49
AIVif I have a windows 2000 server, that I can ping by name, how can I get to its shares?10:49
polpakvk, just not their other lines10:49
gnomefreakyou too vk10:49
CptShow do i mount a network folder on startup?10:49
dbeckerAIV: UI or CLI?10:50
polpakvk,  and most (if not all) the nvidia cards work10:50
phienoxu can start supporting open graphics standards10:50
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Metalhey10:50
polpakvk, w/ the nvidia standards10:50
gnomefreakati makes a good card its just the ragepro serires sucks10:50
ScootaDootaAIV...you need to install samba10:50
vkpolpak, but my computer is a laptop so i cant change my grapics card10:50
polpakvk, ah.. yeah10:50
AIVdbecker, what do you mean?10:50
gnomefreakvk sureeeeeeeeeeee you can its just a bit harder10:50
polpakvk, course laptops aren't terribly good for gaming anyway10:50
AIVScootaDoota, I do have samba installed10:50
dbeckerAIV: do you have samba installed, and do you want to get to the shares from the prompt, or from your desktop?10:50
kremontedoes ubuntu come with linux-ntfs?10:50
AIVdbecker, from both10:51
kremontewell, the live cd, so i can resize a partition10:51
ScootaDootaAIV: Samba is software that allows you to mount linux/unix share on windows and vice versa10:51
mjrkremonte, it comes with the in-kernel read-only ntfs10:51
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vkpolpak, thats true, but the grapics in the OS is a little bit slow too, but i can live with it its better then windows anyway :P10:51
gnomefreakpos10:51
dbeckerAIV: for graphic access, go to Places->Connect to server10:51
polpakAIV, you don't need a samba server to connect to a 2000 machines shares, you need a samba client10:51
AIVfor command line I use mount?10:51
gnomefreakill bbl i have to get this pos off here its gonna anger me in a bit10:51
kremontemjr: the linux-ntfs that knoppix has to resize ntfs partitions?10:51
ScootaDootawww.samba.org10:51
dbeckerYou can use mount10:51
AIVpolpack, ok10:51
polpakAIV, For the best of both worlds use smb4k10:51
AIVsamba client10:51
polpakAIV, it will do gui and command line10:51
dbeckerAIV: you can use smbclient for an FTP-like client10:52
polpakAIV, and has an easy to use interface10:52
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dbeckeror mount -t smbfs -o <options here> for permanent mount10:52
cafuegoYaaaaaargh10:52
kremonteoh, scratch that, found something10:52
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djlilyaziScootaDoota , o i can access windows files ?10:52
phienoxanyhows in future it may be required to make more modularized hardware , because of the environmental effects of waste from electronics , then a modularized open standard may have to follow10:52
polpakdjlilyazi, windows shared files yes10:52
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vkgnomefreak, are your os grapics slow to?10:52
phienoxor else everything will get more and more expensive by time10:52
purpleheart_USMCCould I install php5, apache 2, and mysql 5 without synaptic?10:53
dsasshould 3d acceleration with radeon mobility cards work out of the box?10:53
Myrttiyou can install anything without synaptic10:53
polpakdsas, no10:53
phienoxnot because its ahard to make , but because it has envirnomnental impa cts and are hard to upgrade10:53
Zambbapurpleheart_USMC: Yes, of course. Synaptic is only a graphical frontend to CLI tools.10:53
phienoxwithout replacement10:53
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Myrttisynaptic is a graphical frontend to apt10:53
purpleheart_USMCk10:53
djlilyazipolpak, so not all my files on window ?10:53
polpakdsas, you have to install the fglrx drivers10:53
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netbutterflyHey there, I'd really appreciate a little help on a partition problem :)10:53
Zambbapurpleheart_USMC: sudo apt-get install package, apt-cache search package_name10:53
dbeckernetbutterfly: what's the issue?10:53
polpakdjlilyazi, files on a windows partition on the same box?10:53
P8ntKidDoes the xlockmore package for ubuntu work? Because, its not working for me.10:53
netbutterflyGot an "error 16 : inconsistent filesystem structure" with grub10:53
phienoxwhat i see is a graphic port and a graphic board where i ca plug parts onto the board10:53
phienoxti change the prestanda to what u want it to be10:54
polpakdjlilyazi, or files on a remote windows box with a network share?10:54
netbutterflydbecker, And therefore can't boot anything with grub10:54
netbutterflySo I booted with the live cd10:54
phienoxinseat of replacing the entire board10:54
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djlilyazipolpak, i have diff partitions for linux then windows..10:54
ManifoldHello.10:54
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netbutterflyAnd tried a e2fsck : it tells me I have a superblock problem10:54
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polpakdjlilyazi, you need to ntfs mount your windows partition if you want to have read access to the files10:54
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mwenetbutterfly: that sounds bad10:54
netbutterflydbecker, Then I tried a few e2fsck -b XXXXX10:54
netbutterflydbecker, ah ?10:55
kremontedoes the ubuntu livecd have ntfsresize? it's listed on it's site for 5.10, but not sure10:55
polpakdsas, for info on how to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI10:55
netbutterflydbecker, But here on the live cd, I can mount all my partitions without any problem10:55
phienoxkremonte, have u booted up and checked ?10:55
djlilyazipolpak, oh dam put the partions toghatha...10:55
dbeckernetbfly: maybe a bad grub install? Bad MBR...10:55
polpakkremonte, it has gparted. But I've had problems getting it to resize using a live cd10:55
purpleheart_USMCdoes synaptic have packages for apache 2, php5, and mysql 5?10:55
Myrttijust don't mount ntfs partitions to write on them from Ubuntu10:55
ChousukeSo hm.10:55
Chousukehow well does Ubuntu support HFS+?10:55
kremontephienox: no, have to reburn the cd since i've lost mine =P10:55
netbutterflydbecker, Well, I chrooted and tried a grub-install, but the problem remains10:56
dbeckernetbfly: if you can mount all partitions from the live CD and fsck runs clean on all of them from the live CD then something else is going on10:56
kremontepolpak: gparted? =X10:56
ManifoldGuys, a question. Does FAT32 have a size limit?10:56
BwlHm. Anyone know why my X11 headers are in /home?10:56
phienoxbad luck kremonte10:56
distrojunkiekremote: i have resized ntfs partitions with the installer10:56
netbutterflydbecker, With sudo grub-install /dev/hda, it does install on the MBR, right ?10:56
polpakkremonte, applications->system tools->GParted10:56
cafuegoManifold: file or fs size limit?10:56
mwepurpleheart_USMC: not mysql 5 i think10:56
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dbeckernbfly: it should10:56
Manifoldcafuego: fs as in partition, yes?10:56
cafuegoManifold: (it has both)10:56
polpakdistrojunkie, yeah, the installer works to resize AFAIK, just not the live cd10:56
cafuegoManifold: yeah10:56
Telemachusgreets10:56
mwepurpleheart_USMC: do you need specific features of the lates mysql?10:56
polpakdistrojunkie, the live cd for breezy anyway10:57
Manifoldcafuego: Yeah, I mean partition.10:57
kremontepolpak: not on this comp. but i'm looking for the livecd, as i want to install ubuntu remotely =P10:57
B166ERXhow can i change my 'computer' name ?10:57
dbeckernbfly: can you specify boot params with the live CD?10:57
purpleheart_USMCcould you make a server that shares files, a printer, and acts as a lamp server totest sites?10:57
mweB166ERX: edit /etc/hosts10:57
AIVsmb4k is fricking awesome10:57
polpakAIV, yes10:57
mweB166ERX: if you mean the hostname10:57
cafuegoManifold: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp10:57
netbutterflydbecker, sure, which ones ?10:57
dbeckernbfly: you could try to boot from the live CD setting the root to your real root partition10:57
dsaspolpak, hmmm, ok, thought it worked in breezy out the box...must've been something I installled.10:57
purpleheart_USMCmwe: i want to be able to use mysqli10:57
mweB166ERX: back it up first though10:57
netbutterflydbecker, ah, nice idea10:57
dbeckernbfly: root=/dev/hda<#>10:58
B166ERXi mean, whats after the username@pcname  in terminal, in example10:58
mwepurpleheart_USMC: what's that10:58
ManifoldThank you, cafuego10:58
netbutterflydbecker, I guess I can find the right option by pressing F1, F2, etc., at boot time ?10:58
netbutterflydbecker, root=, ok, great, I'll try that10:58
netbutterflydbecker, thanks !10:58
purpleheart_USMCmwe: its a way of working with mysql10:58
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dbeckernbfly: let me know if that works, I'll be on a while10:58
mweB166ERX: /etc/hosts like I said10:58
purpleheart_USMCwith php10:58
polpakAIV, I had some issues with it at first (until I chmod ug+s /usr/bin/smbmnt /usr/bin/smbumount) but now it works great10:58
netbutterflydbecker, thanks a lot, I'll reboot right away :)10:58
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mwepurpleheart_USMC: It shouldn't be to hard to install it from source. I believe there is a wiki even10:59
ahzIs there a way for Ubuntu to detect my new soundcard and reconfigure the system?10:59
purpleheart_USMCcould you make a server that shares files, a printer, and acts as a lamp server totest sites?10:59
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dsaspurpleheart_USMC, sure, just install the right packages10:59
mwepurpleheart_USMC: sure10:59
ManifoldAha, so that mean's that means it is sensible in investing in a portable HD.10:59
odathi everyone10:59
purpleheart_USMCsweet11:00
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dsaspurpleheart_USMC, you'll want samba, apache2, php5, mysql, etc etc11:00
blekosgood afternoon ppl & happy new year :)11:00
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odatany one know how to fix this error when starting  "GDM could not write to your authorization file"11:00
purpleheart_USMCthis "samba" sounds awesome11:00
Telemachussamba is an excellent bit of software11:00
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naliothodat: in a rescue terminal, type 'rm ~/.ICEauthority'11:01
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dbeckerI second that, Samba is incredibly useful11:01
dsaspurpleheart_USMC, you'll want libapache2-mod-php5 to install php5 with apache.11:01
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purpleheart_USMCk11:01
TTilusblekos: having TZ=GMT-131 ?11:01
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blekoslol no, TTilus11:02
jessica__i installed kubuntu-during startup i recieve a artsmessage and i have no sound? i talled on the sam computerhave ubuntu and kubuntu ins11:02
TelemachusI recently replaced a primary windows domain controller with a samba replacement and saved megabucks in the process11:02
AIVIm gone, you guys have a good day, and thank you very much for all of your help11:02
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jessica__any help for this issue will greatly appreciated11:02
blekosGMT -2 Athens Greece11:02
odatnalioth, how do i do it from a live cd?11:02
dawidcan i get transparent windows in gnome?11:02
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TTilusblekos: ah, only thought that you just reached 200611:02
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naliothodat: does your system boot by itself?11:02
blekosi would like to make my menu like Macs, that is when I pass my mouse over an icon from the menu, this icon to be enlarged...11:02
blekoslol, no, but just logged in after a few weeks of ;)11:03
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ManifoldCan windows be made to read/write to ext3 natively, cafuego?11:03
ZambbaViimeisen kolmen pivn aikana liittyneet jsenet on merkitty uusi -symbolilla.11:03
odatnalioth, it tries to boot but when i get to gdm login it gives me that error then sends me back to the CLI11:03
ZambbaEroa tst yhteisst - Hae jsenten kuvat11:03
Zambba137900841d6375b130283263d8fcec7afdacd876836c6d36ff19d9e<Sm2>11:03
Zambbakommentoi:) Sivusto on tekijnoikeuslain suojaama. Kyttjien tuottaman sislln oikeudet ovat kyttjill. Loput Copyright  2000-2006 Dynamoid Oy11:03
MyrttiZambba: thank you for the paste11:03
blekosmanifold: there is a program for ext2 but dont remember its name  :(11:03
naliothodat: then at the cli, log in and type the above11:03
jessica__i see a big diffrence between kubuntu and ubuntu is gnome a new architecture?11:04
Myrttiha11:04
odatnalioth, ok thanx11:04
jessica__kde just need some fine tweaking to make it standout even more11:04
cafuegojessica__: No.11:04
Telemachusmanifold:  I have had win proggies that read ext3 but haven't found one that can write it11:04
cafuegojessica__: Both GNome and KDe have been around for _years_11:04
dsasjessica_, it's quite a few years old, I think it's a year younger than kde11:04
lowman62winSCP11:04
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cafuegoTelemachus: ext2fsd (sourceforge)11:05
jessica__because im on kubuntu now and it has way more options and settings then ubuntu11:05
dfgasok, here is my deal. i have 2 nics in my server. 1 nic (eth1) is for my lan and eth0 is for my dsl. well i am using ppp0 to connect to the internet. it is using eth0 but eth0 is also using dhcp to get an IP which it shouldn't be, how do i fix cause i am having problems on sometimes it is having connection issues but everyone on the lan works just fine11:05
jessica__thats hwy i asked11:05
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jessica__it seems like kde was being worked on more then gnome when it comes to user firiendly envoriment11:05
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ManifoldTelemachus & blekos  http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm ?11:05
cafuegojessica__: Yes, that's why many people dislike KDE (far too full of cruft) It indicates design philosophy, not maturity.11:05
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B166ERXsomeone just told me how to change the host name by /etc/hosts , after reboot, it said that it wasnt unable to connect to internet because 'pcname' wasnt in the hosts, but it could bechanged back11:05
Kindredjessica_, you think?... hm11:06
cafuegojessica__: Now, kindly don't troll ;-)11:06
jessica__i prefer ubuntu i love gnome11:06
TelemachusManifold: lol...I was on exactly the same page11:06
blekoshmm, any idea how i can ger rid off, all this recover things I get on the start up screen, -and I mean the files- eg. i see linux kernel 2.9.xxx11:06
B166ERXbut : it does sudo: unable to lookup NabuchadnesarIII via gethostbyname(),  when i try11:06
jessica__im not trolling i asked for assistance and nobody helped me so i figured why not ask questions about it11:06
blekosi dont want them anymore, since we have upgraded the kernel 3 times...11:06
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STARSCREAM1Anyone know a better email program than Evolution?11:07
mweB166ERX: sudo works anyway doesn't it?11:07
MyrttiThunderbird gets my vote11:07
CodenameKTstarscream1: thunderbird11:07
deejoeSTARTSCREAM1: mutt, for some value of "better"11:07
TelemachusSTARSCREAM1: Mozilla Thunderbird11:07
B166ERXmwe , oli@NabuchadnesarIII:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hosts11:07
B166ERXsudo: unable to lookup NabuchadnesarIII via gethostbyname()11:07
STARSCREAM1other than that too11:07
deejoeSTARSCREAM1: mutt, for some value of "better"11:07
deejoesorry about the extra T11:07
STARSCREAM1i like the extra features of evolution but it crashes when trying to download my huge inbox11:07
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deejoeyou using imap, then?11:07
mweB166ERX: is NabuchadnesarIII in /etc/hosts ?11:07
netbflydbecker, re :)11:07
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STARSCREAM1deejoe, mutt?11:08
xiaogilDoes someone know how to make a WinTV PVR2 USB work on Linux ?11:08
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netbflydbecker, Didn't work, unfortunately11:08
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B166ERXmwe , as you see, i cannot acess it, but no it isnt, since i changed it11:08
deejoeyeah, mutt.  its an ncurses client.11:08
ManifoldIs this true then, Telemachus? "11:08
ManifoldUse an ext3 filesystem = data jounaling + large file support. You can read and write to it well from windows 2k/xp."11:08
dawidjessica with what did u want assistance?11:08
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STARSCREAM1deejoe, u use it?11:08
dbeckernetbfly: how far did it get?11:08
netbflydbecker, got something like "could find root fs or block (0.0)"11:08
deejoeyes11:08
mweB166ERX: boot single user mode(rescue) and fix it11:08
STARSCREAM1deejoe, and u prefer it to tbird?11:08
netbflydbecker, not very far, kernel panic because it couldn't find the root fs11:08
KindredManifold, yes11:08
dbeckernetbfly: this isn't a raid or lvm partition, is it?11:08
yggdrasilhey guys newbie here11:08
netbflydbecker, no no11:09
deejoeI've never used tbird or sylpheed or any of the GUI clients11:09
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jessica__is there a kubuntu irc channel i need help with the sound11:09
netbflydbecker, standard, physical partition11:09
STARSCREAM1deejoe, oh, is it command line driven?11:09
dfgasManifold: no, you can't see ext3 from windows at all11:09
cafuegojessica__: There is indeed.11:09
dbeckerHmmm11:09
naliothjessica__: #kubuntu11:09
dbeckerOK, let me check something on my machine11:09
Manifold-_-11:09
deejoenot command-line, but console.  It has a 2D interface.11:09
netbflydbecker, funny thing is, I can mount my root fs without any problem here, on the live cd11:09
cafuegodfgas: I happily read from and write to ext3.11:09
jessica__appreciate it thanks11:09
yggdrasilnewbie question im trying to add a drive on a windows box into the fstab .. andi got it but its read only or somthing.... can someon help me ?11:09
deejoecharacter-based, rather than bit-mapped11:09
netbflydbecker, Thanks a lot :)11:09
Belgainquick question about bootup scripts: how do i disable the kernel md raid autodetection?11:09
Kindreddfgas, sure you can with what we are talking about..11:09
deejoeI prefer stuff I can run through GNU screen11:09
cafuegohttp://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/11:10
Belgaini've tried deleting mdadm and mdadm-raid from /etc/init.d/11:10
naliothyggdrasil: adjust your settings in your fstab11:10
Belgainbut the md devices are still being autostarted at boot time11:10
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netbflydbecker, Well, since this is a server, I have different partitions for /home, /srv/, /usr, etc., so I can still reinstall (and format just / ), but if there's a quick solution, it would be great11:10
TelemachusManifold:  It certainly reads the ext3 partitions okay11:10
Belgainthe reason i want to do this is that this is interfering with EVMS's detection11:10
deejoeSTARSCREAM1: http://www.mutt.org11:10
yggdrasilnalioth i tried adiidng guid and sid 500011:10
yggdrasil50011:10
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ManifoldNatively, Telemachus?11:10
yggdrasiland i tried 1000 and 50011:10
naliothyggdrasil: are they ntfs drives? pastebin your fstab, please11:11
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STARSCREAM1What is everyones favourite themes in ubuntu breezy?11:11
yggdrasilthey are ntfs drives on a windows server11:11
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naliothubotu: tell yggdrasil about pastebin11:11
yggdrasilnalioth im not sure what you mean11:12
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yggdrasilahh gothca11:12
Fordprefectevening all11:12
yggdrasiltahtnks11:12
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yggdrasilok nailioth i gotta cruz out for a sec11:12
Fordprefecthows people ?11:12
yggdrasilill brb11:12
yggdrasilabout 20 minutes11:12
naliothyggdrasil: read your private messages, copy and paste your fstab into a pastebin11:12
yggdrasilyea gotcha11:12
yggdrasilill be back in a while11:12
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dfgascafuego: hmmm, intresting11:12
naliothyggdrasil: bring us back the URL to that particular pastebin11:12
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Fordprefecthello is this thing on ??? testing testing11:13
ManifoldAnyway, I found this application that gives XP/2K read/write access to ext2 and 3.. If anyone is interested.. http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html11:13
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Kindredhi Fordprefect.11:13
Fordprefectcool thanks11:13
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Fordprefecthey Kindred is there anyway of encrypting file systems under Ubuntu11:14
TelemachusManifold: From memory with Explore2fs you have to use theere own proggy, I don't think it gives a viewable drive under my computer....but it may be diffrent now?11:14
_nullWhat would happen if I write to the first 446 bytes of the MBR if I don't use the device for booting?11:14
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Belgainany ideas about raid detection on bootup...?11:14
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ManifoldYeah, check this link Telemachus. I just found it. http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html11:14
dbeckernetbfly: you there?11:14
matitacciahello. I'm having trobles installing linux. I get this error when I try to format my partitions ata1 : BUG: timeout without command. I think it's something with the sata drive/controller. Anyone has any idea?11:14
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netbflydbecker, yep11:14
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B166ERXso, isthere a wayto change my computer name without screwing up /ect/hosts ?11:14
dbeckernetbfly: can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst into paste.ubuntu-nl.org?11:15
rjstonewhy does the grub installer not let you configure it to use a different disk to install the mbr on?11:15
netbflydbecker, sure11:15
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rjstonei wasn't able to boot because i have a scsi and an ide disk and the thing installed the mbr on the ide disk which wasn't configured to boot11:15
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TelemachusManifold:  That looks a lot nicer :)11:15
KindredFordprefect: look at this maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com//EncryptedFilesystemHowto11:15
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KindredI don't know much about it.11:16
netbflydbecker, here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/667111:16
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netbflydbecker, and if it is of any help, other info : http://pastebin.com/49246911:16
FordprefectKindred Major thanks11:16
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Kindred:)11:16
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netbflydbecker, that's my fdisk -l /dev/hda   and my   cat /target/etc/fstab   (my root fs being mounted on /target here, from the live cd)11:17
dbeckernetbfly: looking11:17
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FordprefectOne other question Kindred, how difficult is it to make a .deb for Ubuntu11:17
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B166ERXhow can i install my sound blaster drivers whitout reinstalling ubuntu ?11:17
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Di42lowhere is the cdrom dev in the fs ?11:18
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Di42lothat i have to mount (if isnt been auto mounted)11:18
trappistB166ERX: ubuntu ships with soundblaster drivers11:18
redguyDi42lo: /dev/cdrom ?11:18
netbflyDi42lo, /dev/cdrom ? /media/cdrom0 ?11:18
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dbeckernetbfly: boy, that looks right11:18
Di42lok thx11:19
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netbflydbecker, it does :)11:19
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B166ERXtrappist , i know, but i installed a new MB+cpu hence my problem11:19
redguynetbfly: /media/cdrom0 would be the default mount point, not the device11:19
pavilionhello11:19
willemhello everyone, my mouse stops working if i dont use it for like a minute, anyone knows why? (usb mouse)11:19
netbflyredguy, ah, right, sorry :)11:19
netbflydbecker, hmmm, then a sudo grub-install /dev/hda *should* do the trick, right ?11:19
vki need some help, does anyone know the name of a winamp style mp3 player for debian?11:19
willemxmms11:19
dbeckernetbfly: does the memtest grub option work?11:19
cafuegobeep-media-player11:19
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vkwillem, tnx11:19
redguywillem: maybe it's tired?11:19
Hawk|-Hi,11:20
dawidhi there, i have a small problem11:20
dawidim trying to execute a sh script11:20
dawidbut i get thise11:20
ManifoldYeah, Telemachus, I11:20
netbflydbecker, didn't try that...11:20
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redguywillem: no idea actually, sorry for the bad joke11:20
dawidbash: exec: cube_unix: not found11:20
dfgasok, here is my deal. i have 2 nics in my server. 1 nic (eth1) is for my lan and eth0 is for my dsl. well i am using ppp0 to connect to the internet. it is using eth0 but eth0 is also using dhcp to get an IP which it shouldn't be, how do i fix cause i am having problems on sometimes it is having connection issues but everyone on the lan works just fine11:20
ManifoldI'm gonna try it, Telemachus. Sorry about that, funny keyboard.11:20
dbeckernetbfly: let me see something else. Can you ls -l /boot/grub and paste that?11:20
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willemredguy,  yea probably, been using it way too much :P it works again when i plug it in again11:20
netbflydbecker, sure11:20
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TelemachusManifold:  No worries.....be interested to hear if it works okay11:21
naliothdawid: you need to 'chmod +x cube_unix'  in a terminal where the script is11:21
vkneed some help again, what is the name of a text based web browser for linux?11:21
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LaserJockI have a Breezy and Dapper install and grub is using the Breezy /boot, how would I get it to use the Dapper /boot?11:21
trappistvk: there's links and lynx11:21
netbflyd-rock, here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/667211:21
sampanvk, lynx, links/links2, w3m -- all are text-based browsers11:22
vktappist, tnx,, lynx was the one i was looking for11:22
Sainthello, i've got two sepparate hard drives, one with windows and the other with ubuntu, both working, is there a way of choosing between them without unplugging one of them?11:22
netbflyd-rock, I must say that I also have a separate /boot partition, as you probably saw on the fstab11:22
Hawk|-got a question, where can i change the default programs? I mean when i double click a movie , the totem-player will be launched, where can i change it do vlc-player?!11:22
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robertjwhat does "only works with linear framebuffer ATM" mean in regards to X11:22
d-rocknetbfly: I don't see a separate boot partition there11:22
redguydfgas: you sure that eth0 doesn't need to get an IP via DHCP? Do you know what address/netmask you should assign to eth0?11:22
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naliothvk: links2, lynx, w3m11:23
redguydfgas: if you do, take a look at the /etc/network/interfaces file11:23
dfgasredguy: eth0 was set to use dhcp before i put it behind my modem, but if i disable eth0 then ppp0 won't work11:23
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FordprefectKindred you there ??11:24
willemHawk|-:  right click -> properties -> Open With, fill in VLC there11:24
d-rocknetbfly: which partition is /boot?11:24
netbflyd-rock, woops, right11:24
netbflyd-rock, wrong machine :) I have a /boot on another machine :-p sorry11:24
d-rock:)11:24
netbflyd-rock, you're absolutely right :)11:24
dfgasredguy: how should eth0 be set now?11:25
mwewhy do people use seperate /boot partitions on modern systems?11:25
netbflyd-rock, sorry I think you can't see my answers in your /query since I need to be subscribed11:25
Falstiusmwe, safer, multiple oses11:25
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dfgasredguy: as of right now, eth0 is using dhcp local and i think thats where it is messing everything up11:25
d-rocknetbfly: yeah, no worries11:25
mweFalstius: how is it safer?11:25
netbflyd-rock, do you think I might just reinstall, and format my / while keeping data on the other ones ?11:25
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Hawk|-willem, mhh yeah it works..but only one time, when i open it again with a double click i got the crappy totem-player11:26
Fordprefectthanks anyway for the tip Kindred11:26
ManifoldWill try and remember and get back to you, Telemachus.11:26
netbflyd-rock, maybe that's the simplest solution after all11:26
d-rocknetbfly: that would probably be the simplest, it's just a weird error to be getting in grub11:26
redguydfgas: maybe you modem has dhcp server as well?11:26
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netbflyd-rock, right, ok I'll just do that11:26
mweFalstius: and why would you need it for multiple oses. I've fbsd and linux on the same machine. never used a /boot partition11:26
d-rocknetbfly: Can you get on IRC from another machine?11:26
dfgasredguy: no11:26
redguys/you/your/11:26
willemHawk|-:  maybe if you remove totom from that same list?11:26
Falstiusmwe, you don't have to mount it automatically11:26
Hawk|-willem, sorry! i missed the proberties11:26
netbflyd-rock, hmm not really11:26
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Hawk|-ah properties11:26
d-rockThere's a grub command line interface that you can use to mount the drive and look through it11:26
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Falstiusso it removes the likely hood of accidentally deleting it.11:27
netbflyah11:27
willemHawk|-:  Ah :) does it work now?11:27
d-rockBut the error you're getting is just bizarre11:27
dfgasredguy: i am sure thats it grabbing local dhcp11:27
Hawk|-willem, yes it does! thx a lot11:27
mweFalstius: heh. yeah I guess so.11:27
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netbflyd-rock, yeah...11:27
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willemHawk|-:  np11:27
dfgasredguy: could i just make eth0 static11:27
netbflyd-rock, Well I think I'll just reinstall11:27
Hawk|-i was searching for this damn thin for days11:27
Falstiusmwe, as for multiple os, I just like to keep all of my kernels at one spot.  It certainly isn't necessary.11:27
netbflyd-rock, no big trouble11:27
redguydfgas: then you have to provide address and netmask11:27
d-rocknetbfly: let me know if the reinstall fixes it, this is strange11:27
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mweFalstius: yeah. I can see the point11:28
netbflyd-rock, I certainly hope it will :)11:28
dfgasredguy: do you think that would work right then?11:28
netbflyd-rock, ok I'll let you know11:28
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netbflyd-rock, anyway, thanks a lot for the help11:28
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d-rocknetbly: no worries, sorry we couldn't get it running :(11:28
LaserJockI have Breezy and Dapper installed and grub is using the Breezy menu.1st, how would I get it to use the Dapper one instead?11:28
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netbflyd-rock, no problem :)11:29
netbflyd-rock, cheers !11:29
FalstiusLaserJock, make /boot a seperate partition and share it between the two ;)11:29
mweLaserJock: um. you need to run grub and reconfigure it with the right partitions I guess11:30
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LaserJockI tried grub-install but that didn't work11:30
mweLaserJock: because you need to run sudo grub11:30
LaserJockmwe: did that11:30
odatnalioth, you still here?11:30
kenthave the nvidia-glx  driver in Breezy no support for tnt2-cards? I cant load the module. It says "No device" even though i know very well that I have a nvidia tnt2-card. :(11:30
mweLaserJock: then show root and so on11:30
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LaserJockmwe: ?11:31
redguydfgas: just looked on a similar setup with an old d-link modem conncted with eth0. the modem is 192.168.1.1, eth0 is 192.168.1.2 and eth1 is connected to the lan 192.168.128.0. So af long as you'll set up the modem's and eth0 subnet different from your LAN subnet everything should be ok11:31
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cafuegokent: nvidia-glx-legacy11:31
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FalstiusLaserJock,you can run sudo grub and then install to the right drive ... there's a howto floating around on the web.11:31
dawidi do chmod +x file but stil exec file says file not found11:31
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dfgasredguy: cool11:31
kentcafuego, will try that. thanks11:31
willemdawid:  try ./ in front of it11:31
LaserJockFalstius: yeah, I just thought that grub-install would do the trick11:31
odatanyone know how to fix the error GDM can not write to authorization file11:32
FalstiusLaserJock, I've never had much luch with grub-install.11:32
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dawidthanks willem that got it to execute!!11:32
Sturgeondawid: ./file11:32
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redguydfgas: so set eth0 static, in the same subnet that your modem is, but different the LAN's subnet11:32
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mweLaserJock: you root(hdx,y) then setup(hdx), substituting with your actual disks and partitions11:32
redguydfgas: that should work. it works for me at least :-)11:32
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dfgasredguy: what about netmask?11:33
Flux0ri've got a shell script which runs a server. how can i execute this script on startup?11:33
redguydfgas: 255.255.255.0 should be ok11:33
Flux0ri've tried to put it in init.d and registered it, but that wouldn't work11:33
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STARSCREAM1ANYONE know how to get rid of the text Applications, places and system on the bar at the top and replace them with icons?11:33
dfgasredguy: should i set a gateway for eth0?11:33
redguyFlux0r: update-rc.d11:33
redguydfgas: no, you don't need it11:34
punkrockguy318Is there a programming specialist here I can talk to?  I need to implement a solution my local music store, and I don't know where to begin.  If someone is good in this area, could they PM me?11:34
redguydfgas: s/do/should/11:34
Flux0rredguy, i tried that but that didn't work.11:34
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redguyFlux0r: then try man update-rc.d :-)11:34
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dfgasredguy: i hope i didn't break anything in my foot/ankle, heh, fell down my icy stairs11:35
yanisdamn 5.10 again! it didnt asked me if I want a static ip!11:35
Flux0rthanks for your help, redguy. any people who *do* know how it works?11:35
Flux0r:p11:35
yanishow do I change my ip to static?11:35
Flux0ryanis, you can't. your isp can.11:35
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dawidokay thanks to willem and sturgeon i now get CUBE to run at a nice 400fps11:35
dawidhehe11:35
redguyFlux0r: also, your script has to understand at least start and stop.11:35
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LaserJockmwe & Falstius : thanks I think I got it11:35
yanisFlux0r: I have a lan here!!!11:35
dawidso does any1 have a clue how to alt-tab11:36
willemdawid:  have fun :)11:36
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dfgasredguy: lol, oops11:36
yanisFlux0r: I am talking about private ips11:36
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Falstiusdawid, hold down alt and tab?11:36
dfgasredguy: wrong window11:36
odatanyone know how to fix the error GDM can not write to authorization file11:36
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rem_forgot exact syntax but its easily findable in google ..11:36
redguyFlux0r: or you could add it to bootmisc.sh11:36
mweodat: when are you getting that? when it starts at boot?11:36
Flux0rredguy, i'll google that. thanks.11:37
dfgasredguy: oh btw, my modem doesn't have an ip, i am using pppoe connection and logging in from the server11:37
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redguyFlux0r: erm, bootmisc.sh wasn't the right answer11:37
odatmwe, yes11:37
redguyFlux0r: look inside /etc/init.d/skeleton to see how boot scripts should look like11:37
mweodat: well I can't help much but telling you to look at the log files11:38
ManifoldIs anyone using Reiser4 for their FS?11:38
mweodat: /var/log/gdm/11:38
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kameron!tell kameron about lilo11:38
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mweManifold: no, but reiser311:39
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ManifoldYou mean ResierFS, mwe?11:39
shootersMy fonts in VLC are huge and ugly, how do I change them?11:39
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mweshooters: the 'switch' command11:40
EugmanDoes anyone have any idea why mozilla is trying to downlaod any php or phtml files from my webserver part on this compter?11:40
mweshooters: install gtk-theme-switch if you haven't got it11:40
B166ERXok, i need some help here : I just installed a new MB+cpu, and now my soundblaster wont work.  i disable the onboard audio device, and it didnt change anything.  my pc 'sees' the card with > lspci | grep audio , and System- preference- sound shows the sound blaster 5.1 , but still no sound...11:41
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ManifoldG'bye.11:41
robotgeekEugman: you havent set the mime-types correctly in your httpd.conf11:41
mweB166ERX: are the channels unmuted and turned up?11:41
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mweB166ERX: alsamixer will show11:41
B166ERXi checked the alsamixer, but i dont really know wich one to check11:42
redguyB166ERX: what does 'lsmod | grep snd' say?11:42
dradul{part11:42
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mweB166ERX: master, pcm11:42
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mweB166ERX: those are essetial11:42
EugmanOk. Any links or helpful explaination of how to fix that?11:42
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joey222install finished woo hooo11:43
robotgeekEugman: apache2/apache1?11:43
mweB166ERX: and turning them up only works if they're unmuted too11:43
redguyEugman: seems to be a server misconfiguration11:43
B166ERXmwe : http://pastebin.com/49251011:43
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Eugmanlemme check11:43
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B166ERXlike i'm suposed to know how to unmount a sound channel11:43
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nameeaterI would like to know what: tcp        0      0 210-246-6-84.parad:2073 prat.ubuntu.com:www     ESTABLISHED is11:44
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mweB166ERX: unmute11:44
redguyB166ERX: just checking. mwe has a good trail, check your mixer11:44
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Eugmanv211:44
nameeateras I only have Opera open, and none of those pages are ubuntu related11:44
mweB166ERX: alsamixer press m11:44
d-rocknameeater: is that from netstat?11:44
shootersmwe: when I run gtk-theme-switch I have two options: Default and Redmont, and both have bad font rendering...11:44
nameeaterd-rock: yes11:44
B166ERXthey were already unmuted11:44
odatnalioth, you here?11:44
redguyB166ERX: although this may semm stupid, but also check your speakers (if they're turned on, if they're connected correctly)11:45
ardchoilleAnyone have a URL for things that are new/changed in gnome 2.13?11:45
vkcan u have a picture of yourself displayed to others in gaim?11:45
B166ERXredguy they were working 10 min ago with the onboard audio so..11:45
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naliothodat: yes i am.11:45
nameeatervk: yes its in the account options somewhere iirc11:45
B166ERXhm, ok, sound seems like has decided to do a comeback11:46
mweshooters: press the options button to the right of the input field and it will let you choose a font. gtk1 apps wont use tt fonts though11:46
Eugmanactually maybe both. hmmm two httpd.conf's is probably a bad thing right?11:46
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mweshooters: they are ugly11:46
robotgeekEugman: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf . find the line "DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml" make your line like this ine11:46
robotgeekEugman: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php11:46
B166ERXth11:46
B166ERXx11:46
mweshooters: but you can limit the pain11:46
robotgeekEugman: AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps11:46
odatnalioth, i keep getting no suck file or directory when i try to delet the ICEauthority11:46
robotgeekEugman: uncomment the last 2 lines11:46
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redguyno suck file?11:47
robotgeekredguy: such11:47
naliothodat: when you "ls -a" does it show it?11:47
redguysucking files can be bad for your teeth11:47
mwerofl11:47
ibmnotebookhow can i download a file in the terminal?11:47
mweibmnotebook: wget11:48
ardchoillenalioth: PM?11:48
Zambbaibmnotebook: wget url://11:48
EugmanLoadModule mod_placeholder /usr/lib/apache2/modules is the only commented command11:48
odatnalioth, haven't tried it   am i doing this in the root directory or home directory11:48
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slashx1896hey, can someone help me on how to copy a dvd to a blank dvd?11:48
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trappistslashx1896: is your blank dvd and your writer dual-layer?11:48
slashx1896dual layer?11:49
robotgeekEugman: in apache2.conf?11:49
d-rockNot sure about dual layer, but it may work11:49
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Eugmanyeah and for some reason I seem to have plain apache as well...11:49
blekoshmm, any idea how i can ger rid off, all this recover things I get on the start up screen, -and I mean the files- eg. i see linux kernel 2.9.xxx11:49
trappistslashx1896: if you don't know, it's probably not.  the drives and especially the media are a lot more expensive for dual layer, which is big enough to hold a regular dvd.  you can't 'copy' a regular commercial dvd to a single-layer writable dvd.  you have to compress it first.11:49
shootersmwe: if I download the latest vlc tarball from the website, could I use tt fonts?11:49
Eugmanwhoops11:50
xcmi need help.  i downloaded gcc to install apps from source, and when i do ./configure i get "C compiler cannot create executables"11:50
mweshooters: no I don't think so.11:50
slashx1896ive done it b4..11:50
slashx1896b4 i got linux11:50
trappistxcm: sudo apt-get install build-essential11:50
Eugmansorry that's in the httpd11:50
mweshooters: just use something else. at least that's what I do11:50
xcmawesome, ill give it a try trappist11:50
shootersmwe: what other apps?11:50
robotgeekEugman: all what i said is in apache2.conf :)11:50
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mweshooters: I use gmplayer11:51
ardchoillenalioth: Remember that autobleh script that wasn't working for you in Ubuntu?11:51
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robotgeekardchoille: me too11:51
Eugmanso add the add type and uncomment the last two commands in apache2.conf right?11:51
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naliothardchoille: i do.11:51
hawk_the root pasword11:52
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trappistok, apt-build <any options> <any package> always fails with "collect2: cannot find `ld'".  building manually works.  debian-builder works.  dpkg-reconfigure works.  gotta be an environment thing with apt-build.  any ideas?11:52
ardchoillenalioth, robotgeek: I had a perl guru friend of mine look at it and he said the script is fine, no problems. The problem may be with Ubuntu or the Ubuntu perl module.11:52
robotgeekEugman: directory index add index.php , then uncomment the addtypes for php.11:52
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naliothardchoille: that's what was figured11:52
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ardchoillenalioth, robotgeek: I was hoping to get a fix, but no dice :(11:53
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willemalles goed verder?11:53
naliothardchoille: lots of things broke for me when i upgraded to breezy11:53
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nalioth!de11:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de11:53
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ardchoillenalioth: :(11:53
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jessica__ok im having this issue-when i log int okubuntu under root sound works but when i log in under my name no sound when im in kubuntu how can i fix this?11:54
Eugmank11:54
MalachiIs anyone familiar with gnome-look.org?11:54
jessica__is a permission issue11:54
mwenalioth: yeah. I ended up backin up my homedir and other important stuff. then doing a clean intall of breezy11:54
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xcmif i download a .deb package, how do i install that11:54
bimberi!deb11:54
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb11:54
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xcmthanks!11:55
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bimberinp :)11:55
MalachiIs anyone familiar with gnome-look.org?11:55
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mweMalachi: I've been there a few times11:55
MalachiDo you know how to install the themes?11:55
mweMalachi: yeah11:55
Malachimwe, Can you tell me?11:56
mweMalachi: if you bye me a beer11:56
redguyjessica_: maybe the user with no sound is not a member of the audio group11:56
MalachiA shall buy you a virtual beer.11:56
redguyhrm, too late11:56
mweMalachi: sudo gdmsetup then press the button to install a new theme11:56
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MalachiThanks.11:57
ArgothHey, I need help. I have had some wierd problems to windows not being able to see my maxtor diamond hard drive (200 gb) so, my solution was to put in a 4 gb hard drive and put windows on it and to put linux on my other 200 gb hard drive with 40 gb allocated to windows after the correct drivers were installed. So I did it but when I get to grub it sticks so my fix for that was to just put my windows cd in. Then it would let me boot into whateve11:57
Argothr I wanted. I planned to reinstall grub or some how make it work. But I have run across a problem when I try and log in it comes up with the empty grey square box and then locks up. Has anyone else had this problem11:57
Eugman!permissions11:57
Malachimwe: ESB, Stout, Red Ale, Pilsner, Porter, Barleywine, or Lambic?11:57
ubotupermissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.11:57
mweMalachi: what?11:58
Malachimwe What type of beer =)11:58
mweMalachi: oh. I'll take a Carlsberg :)11:58
Argoth...11:58
existanceis there a program i can use to run a checksum?11:59
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mweexistance: md5sum11:59
Malachimwe: Umm.....11:59
robotgeekexistance: on windows?11:59
MalachiWhat's your email?11:59
Argothcrap I thought it was a bad thing no errors :(11:59
existancerobotgeek, no... on ubuntu11:59
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existancerobotgeek, a file i got came with a .sfv and i wanted to checksum it12:00

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