[12:00] <poningru> the open with tab
[12:00] <moquist_> To do this on my own system, I had to s/totem/mplayer/ in a config file.  It's totally unreasonable to expect normal users to do that sort of thing, so I'm wondering if there's a "right" GUI way to do it.
[12:00] <BxL> I can't run tuxracer :(
[12:00] <moquist_> PuMpErNiCkLe: hmm.  ok, maybe I didn't get what you meant.
[12:00] <Comrade_Sergei> is there a gimp editor for windows>
[12:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moquist_: If you want, I can post a screenshot.
[12:00] <eyedol59> somebody can tell me how i can start gnome from bash?
[12:00] <moquist_> ohhhh.  well, that was really easy.
[12:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moquist_: :D
[12:01] <moquist_> I feel like an intelligent ignoramus, 'cuz I use ion myself and avoid all icons and menus and stuff, so when I try to help normal people with Ubuntu they're using a bunch of interfaces I know nothing about.  :p
[12:01] <moquist_> thx everybody.
[12:01] <odat> np
[12:02] <recep> hi, is beta version of ubuntu downloadable?
[12:02] <Amaranth> recep: ubuntu dapper flight 2 is out
[12:02] <Amaranth> recep: It'll break your toys though.
[12:02] <recep> Amaranth: which toys? all fo them? :)
[12:02] <Amaranth> recep: your computer toys
[12:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moquist_: Glad to help.  I come from a Mac background, so GUIs seems natural to me.
[12:03] <Amaranth> like, you know, turning on and such
[12:03] <Amaranth> it's running a 2.6.15 prerelease kernel with the start of the hotplug/udevd conversion
[12:03] <recep> ok then what is the safe and most bleeding edge option?
[12:03] <recep> 5.10?
[12:04] <hone> recep: yeah
[12:04] <recep> can I enable universe and multiverse and stay safe?
[12:04] <Comrade_Sergei> is there a the gimp editor for windows
[12:04] <hone> recep: yeah
[12:04] <hone> recep: I have them enabld
[12:05] <Belboz99> hey, how come I can't empty the trash?
[12:05] <VoX> no arms?
[12:05] <Belboz99> I've got 0KB free, I need it emptied
[12:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Comrade_Sergei: yes, but as of version 2.2 it only runs on WinNT/2k/XP
[12:05] <Inf3ctedFx> hone: right click on the icon the empty trash
[12:05] <Belboz99> tried that
[12:05] <hone> Inf3ctedFx: ?
[12:05] <Belboz99> nothing happened
[12:05] <hone> Inf3ctedFx: to do what?
[12:05] <fsn> where would the grub.conf be located?
[12:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Comrade_Sergei: http://www.gimp.org/windows/
[12:06] <Comrade_Sergei> thanks
[12:06] <Inf3ctedFx> sorry hone  it wasn't 4 u lol sorry
[12:06] <recep> is gnome 2.12 really better than 2.10?
[12:06] <hone> Inf3ctedFx: :-D
[12:06] <hone> recep: each gnome revision is an incremental upgrade
[12:06] <Belboz99> man, I've gotta empty this trash!
[12:06] <hone> recep: I can't recall off the top of my head what's been improved, but it's just a smoother experience
[12:06] <hone> recep: just my two cents.
[12:06] <titanium_platypu> okay I just bought a new video card....I know in windows I need to uninstall the driver of my old one before I physically switch it out.  Do I have to do this in Ubuntu or will it make the needed changes next time I boot it up?
[12:07] <recep> thanks hone
[12:07] <ompaul> fsn, /boot/grub/menu.list
[12:07] <hone> recep: np
[12:07] <Belboz99> do I need sudo rights to empty it?
[12:07] <fsn> ompaul, thank you =D
[12:07] <VoX> Belboz99: go into your .Trash directory
[12:07] <Storkme> odat, pm please
[12:07] <VoX> in your home directory
[12:07] <VoX> and delete them manually
[12:07] <Ng> titanium_platypu: I think you'll want to reboot into the recovery mode and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:07] <ompaul> Belboz99, right click and ask it to delete
[12:07] <titanium_platypu> Ng: this is after I switch the card?
[12:08] <poningru> Belboz99: no
[12:08] <Ng> titanium_platypu: yeah, sorry, not reboot, when you first boot after installing the new card :)
[12:08] <titanium_platypu> Ng: okay, and how exactly do I get recovery mode?
[12:08] <EU> Guys, do you know if the SCANNER HP SCANJET 4670, works fine under Ubuntu?
[12:08] <hone> titanium_platypu: use the single option on boot?
[12:08] <Ng> titanium_platypu: when your PC is just starting up it displays the BIOS messages then offers you to press Escape to see a boot menu, do that, it's in there
[12:09] <titanium_platypu> oh, so it's in GRUB as a separate entry?
[12:09] <Ng> yep
[12:09] <titanium_platypu> okay, thanks very much.
[12:09] <Belboz99> okay, thanks
[12:09] <ompaul> EU, no idea, I know you have asked that more than once but don't like to say that others don't
[12:09] <Belboz99> those hidden directories always get me.  I've got to remember to ls -a
[12:10] <Comrade_Sergei> ok gimme the link for the gimp again it said fatal error illl try again
[12:11] <Belboz99> anyone know why the trash won't empty via the GUI?
[12:11] <yatesy> permissions?
[12:11] <Determinist> eyecandy question: any idea where i can get a nice image to replace the main menu icon? i.e. distributer-logo.png
[12:11] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?
[12:11] <Belboz99> yatesy: .Trash is in my home directory
[12:12] <Comrade_Sergei> PuMpErNiCkLe can i have it again
[12:12] <yatesy> obviously?
[12:12] <holycow> Belboz99, usually its because you have a file in there not owned by you
[12:12] <odat> anyone have any idea why when i try to upgrade the kernel to 686 on a celeron 1.7 i get a segmentation fault when booting up?
[12:12] <Belboz99> ah, ok holycow
[12:12] <Belboz99> that's right, I deleted a file that was owned by root a few days ago
[12:12] <holycow> Belboz99, alternatively once in a while you can try opening up trash, and doing file / empty trash
[12:12] <cajun> i'm back.  my burner is not mounted.  what's the command to mount all cdrom drives?
[12:13] <Determinist> cajun, there's no command to mount "all cdrom drivers"
[12:13] <Determinist> s/drivers/drives
[12:13] <Belboz99> I'm still lost as to why 1 root file causes the entire directory to not empty.  Why can't it delete all the files I do have permisisons for?
[12:13] <zenlunatic> my X has text bleeding and trails when i move its windows... any ideas?
[12:14] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: bad driver?
[12:14] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, i just used the default ones
[12:15] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose the right stuff for your hardware
[12:15] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, k
[12:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Comrade_Sergei: What did you want?
[12:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Comrade_Sergei: Right, I just scrolled up and found it.  Here ya go: http://www.gimp.org/windows/
[12:17] <son>  Highlight
[12:18] <son>  Underline
[12:18] <son>  Bold
[12:18] <son>  Something
[12:18] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, should I say yes to "use kernel framebuffer device"?
[12:18] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, interface not device, sorry
[12:18] <odat> zenlunatic, sure
[12:19] <yatesy> Belboz99: so re-write it? :P
[12:20] <fsn> is there anyway to open the menu.lst as root so i can edit it? or do i have to log out and log in as root?
[12:20] <zenlunatic> odat, how do i know which modules to load by default?
[12:20] <odat> zenlunatic, which driver did you pick?
[12:20] <yatesy> fsn: thats what sudo is for
[12:20] <demona> Verified. Playing an album with XMMS over samba, by the 4th song smbiod is sucking incredible CPU and XMMS needs to be killed. Using mplayer to play over the same Samba mount, it's now almost done playing the album with no unusual load or other problems. Most bizarre problem.
[12:20] <zenlunatic> odat, the one for my card
[12:20] <Mooters> does Ubuntu have gcc and if so where might i find it
[12:20] <odat> zenlunatic, and what is the card
[12:20] <odat> ?
[12:20] <zenlunatic> odat, ati rage 128 pro m3
[12:21] <yatesy> Mooters: type gcc? otherwise get it from apt
[12:21] <Seveas> fsn gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:21] <odat> zenlunatic, then mark all of the modules to load by default
[12:21] <cafuego> Mooters: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:21] <Mooters> im installing vmware-tools for the guest and all I need is the location of it
[12:21] <Mooters> ok
[12:21] <ComradeSergei> srry kicked the cord of my compurter and it shut off
[12:22] <cafuego> Mooters: Then you'll need gcc-3.4
[12:22] <yatesy> Mooters: which gcc
[12:22] <ComradeSergei> k can i have the gimp link again?
[12:22] <fsn> Seveas, Thank you.
[12:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Comrade_Sergei: http://www.gimp.org/windows/
[12:22] <Mooters> any
[12:22] <ComradeSergei> thanks
[12:22] <cafuego> Mooters: and run CC=gcc-3.4 ./vmware-config.pl
[12:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np
[12:22] <zenlunatic> odat, which color  depth?
[12:22] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: sorry i went away, um, don't use the kernel framebuffer device
[12:22] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, too late
[12:22] <simonvc> Hey all, what cmd does ubuntu call to hibernate when you select hibernate from the logout menu?
[12:22] <yatesy> Mooters: no the command which gcc :P tells you the path to it
[12:22] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: oh, is it working? (it probably doesn't matter, i always say no though)
[12:23] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, i don't know im going to try it
[12:23] <odat> zenlunatic, 24
[12:23] <odat> jenda-zZz, what up?
[12:24] <dos-assassin> I am sitting on a network with 2 other computer, both on Windows XPSP2 OS, and instead of installing my printer, cause its evil and doesn't want to be on my machine, I am going to install it to one of the windows machines... will I still have use of my printer with it being on another machine?
[12:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: Yes, but you'll have to set up printer sharing on the machine it's connected to.
[12:25] <Belboz99> Hey, how do I add an application that uses the "sh" command or the "./" on the panel?
[12:25] <dos-assassin> Ok can I ask for some guidance on how to do this?
[12:25] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: add custom launcher
[12:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: I can help with the Ubuntu side of it... :)
[12:26] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: and then type the whole command
[12:26] <dos-assassin> Lol... that'll be good enough... I recently switched to Linux so I am just learning how to operate it... but I know Windows like the back of my hand
[12:26] <Belboz99> jenda-zZz, what about the syntax?
[12:26] <Belboz99> I'm not sure where to put the sh or the ./
[12:26] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: sh /path/of/file
[12:27] <Aven> hello
[12:27] <jenda-zZz> hello Aven
[12:27] <Belboz99> jenda-zZz, I tried that and it doesn't work.
[12:27] <jgw_> what's the "ubuntu way" of upgrading/apt-getting the 686-smp kernel and uninstall the default kernel cruft?
[12:27] <Aven> I'm adding a launcher for a panel... and I want to add synaptic
[12:27] <Aven> but I have to run it as root...
[12:27] <simonvc> hmm anyone know what command the "hibernate" option in logout calls?
[12:27] <Aven> what would be the command for it to ask me for a password when it starts running?
[12:27] <jgw_> jgw: (on an ubuntu server install)
[12:27] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: how does it not work? try typing it in the term
[12:27] <Belboz99> jenda-zZz, does it matter if there is an espace character in the path to the file?
[12:27] <Aven> I used 'sudo synaptic' as the command to open it, but won't work
[12:28] <Belboz99> escape*
[12:28] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: YES! You mean a space? If there is, then you have to put the whole path in ""
[12:29] <Belboz99> cannot execute binary file
[12:29] <DRF> Aven: how about trying gksudo synaptic ? (thats the graphical version of sudo i think)
[12:29] <Inf3ctedFx> Seveas:
[12:29] <Belboz99> jenda-zZz, it's a "\ "
[12:29] <Aven> ahh
[12:30] <Aven> works great, thanks
[12:30] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: Then it's a binary file. You first have to make it executable and then run it without sh.
[12:30] <Inf3ctedFx> Seveas: one of your repositories wont let me upgrade.. look the error -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6616
[12:30] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: sudo chmod +x "/path/of/file"
[12:32] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, that didn't help
[12:32] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, does your X do that?
[12:32] <stark-johan> how can I stop a program that have been started from init.d? I have pure-ftpd running but I need it to stop.
[12:32] <Belboz99> okay, this one only seems to work with the "./"
[12:33] <jenda-zZz> Belboz99: sorry, gotta go (zZz)
[12:33] <Belboz99> k
[12:33] <Belboz99> thanks
[12:33] <jenda-zZz> np
[12:34] <mcscruff> lo, can anyone help, it went quite in kubuntu , http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/490998
[12:34] <dos-assassin> PuMpErNiCkLe, you still there?
[12:35] <Belboz99> anyone know how to add an application to the panel that uses "./"?
[12:35] <klippo> how can i make usplash work with lilo?
[12:35] <kemik> Belboz99:  uses ./ ?
[12:35] <kemik> Belboz99:  specify the entire path ?
[12:35] <SweetestSavage> kemik - Actually I want to know this aswell.. for me it's /main/SM/ ./stepmania
[12:35] <ericf> against what package should I file installer-bugs in the dapper flight2 cd?
[12:36] <Belboz99> kemik, yeah, the command is ./fahmon but I can only get it to work from within the application's direcotry
[12:36] <djst> does anyone have any recommendations for a secure file sharing system in a lan?
[12:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: yup
[12:36] <ericf> djst: samba appears to be the standard these days
[12:36] <kemik> Belboz99:  so /path/to/fahmon doesnt work ?
[12:36] <zenlunatic> djst, irc
[12:36] <kemik> SweetestSavage:  usually you just specifiy the entire absolute path
[12:36] <dos-assassin> So you gonna help me with the Ubuntu part of it? lol
[12:36] <djst> but i've heard that samba isn't that secure
[12:37] <SweetestSavage> kemik - How do you mean..?
[12:37] <kemik> Belboz99:  or you could add the dir where "fahmon" is in your $path
[12:37] <djst> i have tried shfs, but it segfaults when you umount
[12:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: Ready if you are.
[12:37] <zenlunatic> does anyone know why there are trails on my X?
[12:37] <Belboz99> kemik, it works better without the ./ in the application launcher, but it's missing some files for some reason
[12:37] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: no, my X doesn't do that
[12:37] <dos-assassin> Yep, I got all the time in the world
[12:37] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: what kind of video card do you have?
[12:38] <klippo> how can i have framebuffer working?
[12:38] <klippo> it wont accept my vga lines
[12:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: Okay... it should be fairly straightforward.  Go to 'System' -> 'Administration' -> 'Printing'
[12:38] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, rage 128 mobility m3
[12:38] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, pro
[12:38] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[12:38] <dos-assassin> Ok
[12:38] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, but im on dapper but this happened in breezy too
[12:38] <dos-assassin> I got that
[12:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: From the 'Printer' menu, select 'new printer' -> 'windows printer (SMB)'
[12:39] <kemik> Belboz99:  i'd add the dir to path, or write a small bashscript that u execute from the panel
[12:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: (you'll have to select 'network printer')
[12:39] <kemik> SweetestSavage:  you can execute a program like this /home/youruser/foo  <- if foo is a binary
[12:40] <kemik> (and foo isin your /home/youruser directory)
[12:40] <RevPeter_> hello is there any softwware specialist?
[12:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: And then fill in the textboxes as required.  Some of that might be auto-detected.
[12:40] <nagyv> Hello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?
[12:40] <dos-assassin> Cool... alright I think I can handle it from here... thanks alot
[12:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: Cool :)
[12:40] <RevPeter_> my aquaintance want to change OS to ubuntu, but doesn't know is there any kind of adobe creative suite
[12:40] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: did you choose the ati driver?
[12:41] <kemik> RevPeter_:  there's The Gimp f.ex
[12:41] <zenlunatic> cmatheson, yes
[12:41] <SweetestSavage> kemik - Ah, alright. I got it, thanks =)
[12:41] <kemik> SweetestSavage:  np
[12:41] <dos-assassin> Just one more question... once it is installed on the other machine... will I need the driver to use the printer or can I just tell the printer to print and it will work?
[12:42] <cajun> i am unable to change the permissions of some of the folders in my mounted NTFS drive
[12:43] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: i'm not sure... i think i have that same card in my laptop but ive never had problems
[12:43] <cajun> i've tried chmod and it won't work
[12:43] <RevPeter_> does the gimp the complete design environment for print, Web, and mobile publishing?
[12:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dos-assassin: It shouldn't require the driver, as it's not operating the device... windows is doing that, the ubuntu box is just sending the printable data.
[12:43] <cajun> "Operation not permitted"
[12:43] <kemik> cajun:  you cant write to ntfs
[12:43] <cajun> oh thta's right.  thanks
[12:43] <kemik> cajun:  so i guess you cant really change permissions on the file
[12:43] <kemik> files
[12:43] <dos-assassin> Sweet... again thanks alot lol... I really needed the use of this printer or it was my ass tomorrow at work lol... much appreciated... later
[12:43] <cajun> how is it that i can delete but can't write?
[12:45] <kemik> cajun:  not sure, never tried to delete files on a ntfs partition..
[12:45] <kemik> cajun:  but i'd recommend you to stop trying ;)
[12:45] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: sorry my X froze
[12:45] <cajun> ok
[12:46] <mcscruff> lo, can anyone help, it went quite in kubuntu , http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/490998
[12:46] <coz> hello all
[12:46] <djst> anyone really experienced with how x-servers and remote desktops work?
[12:46] <djst> i'm running a server and i have it running gnome as well, just to be able to virtual desktop to it and launch applications that i want to run over night
[12:47] <djst> the problem is, of course, that it takes up a lot of ram
[12:47] <kemik> djst:  try FreeNX
[12:47] <Jinkguns> errr, how do I make it so this .sh will auto run when I double click on it. :/
[12:47] <craiga> djst: use x11vnc or FreeNX
[12:47] <kemik> it's supposed to be good
[12:47] <djst> i'm using vnc
[12:47] <kemik> vnc sucks
[12:47] <kemik> its slow and terrible :)
[12:47] <craiga> x11vnc connects to your current Gnome session and exports it - good for a quick login and logout job
[12:47] <RevPeter> vmware
[12:47] <djst> yeah.
[12:47] <djst> is freeNX in the repos?
[12:47] <kemik> !freenx
[12:47] <ubotu> from memory, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[12:48] <djst> but the thing i really want is not to run gnome at all on the server
[12:48] <craiga> ...
[12:48] <nagyv> Hello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?
[12:48] <craiga> don't then :) just use ssh
[12:48] <djst> with normal console apps, you can just use "screen" and leave it
[12:49] <titanium_platypu> okay, I'm trying to update the drivers for my video card from Nvidia's website,
[12:49] <La_PaRCa> Um, How is freeNX different from vnc or the likes?
[12:49] <djst> which means i can start a console program using ssh from my laptop, then detach the screen and shutdown the laptop, and the program is still running on the server
[12:49] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: you there?
[12:49] <kemik> djst:  just use X and forward x11 packets
[12:49] <djst> that's what i want to do with X programs
[12:49] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: yes, occasionally sorry
[12:49] <titanium_platypu> and when I run the installation, it complains because "Linux kernel 2.6 accepts only modules that were compiled on the same gcc version as the kernel" and that my Linux kernel was compiled on gcc 3.2 or something like that, but I have gcc 4.0 installed
[12:49] <titanium_platypu> my Linux kernel version is 2.8, though
[12:49] <titanium_platypu> what should I do?
[12:49] <craiga> djst: just use the -X switch of ssh ;-)
[12:50] <djst> kemik: yeah, but the problem is, when i close the laptop, the program will die
[12:50] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: i don't know whats wrong
[12:50] <kemik> yes
[12:50] <djst> craiga: as i said, that will only work as long as the laptop is running
[12:50] <kemik> i see now what you want
[12:50] <craiga> true true , hence ;-)
[12:50] <djst> i want to be able to, somehow, do what "screen" does for text apps, but for X apps
[12:50] <craiga> vnc sounds like your best bet, tbh
[12:50] <RedRose> is there any way to cap or limit the amount of processor power they can take up??
[12:50] <kemik> and i *think* you'll have to use FreeNX / VNC or something for that
[12:50] <fsn> how can i change the permissions on /media/windows so users are able to read from it?
[12:50] <ardchoille> what is the command to list all partitions in cli?
[12:50] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: yeah, i'm not really sure... are you sure your monitor settings are all good?
[12:50] <craiga> connect to a real X session with x11vnc, start it up, and close the client
[12:50] <kemik> djst:  afaik there's no "screen" stuff for X-apps
[12:50] <djst> kemik: bummer then.
[12:50] <djst> well thanks
[12:50] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: i don't know the hz of it
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> yes there is
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> xmove
[12:51] <titanium_platypu> fsn: maybe change the umask?
[12:51] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: can you google it ?
[12:51] <craiga> or just start Xvnc and leave it 'backgrounded' with twm or something
[12:51] <kemik> djst:  i could be wrong
[12:51] <cajun> there is a "cdrecorder" directory in my media folder.  i'm guessing that means that my CDR-ROM has been mounted.  but i can't copy files to it using the Nautilus CD Burner
[12:51] <djst> anyway, running gnome is a resource hog, but it has this built-in remote desktop thing
[12:51] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: yeah i will try that
[12:51] <kemik> djst:  as HrdwrBoB points out :)
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> kemik: djst: xmove
[12:51] <cajun> what can I do?  I'm using Live at the moment
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> kemik: :)
[12:51] <djst> HrdwrBoB: xmove?
[12:51] <djst> there is a solution??
[12:51] <craiga> djst: use twm and x11vnc - it's pretty much identical to the gnome session thingy but CLI
[12:51] <craiga> xmove is scary
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> djst: xmove, look it up
[12:51] <djst> HrdwrBoB: yay! :)
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> I don't use it
[12:51] <craiga> and unstable?
[12:51] <HrdwrBoB> but eh
[12:52] <foxgamer> Hi all. I'm trying to fix grub on my system to enable me to load ubuntu, but I am having a few problems. Anyone able to help? TIA
[12:52] <craiga> cajun: what's the problem when you try?
[12:52] <RedRose> is there any way to cap or limit the amount of processor power they can take up?? i have SSH open and some a-holes like to
[12:52] <djm62> teleport?
[12:52] <RedRose> run scripts to clog my server
[12:52] <djm62> RedRose: deluser?
[12:52] <djst> ok, i see that xmove can move a program between x servers, but it still requires an x server to be running
[12:52] <RedRose> lol...
[12:53] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: its an lcd
[12:53] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: will that make a difference?
[12:53] <RedRose> no, djm62, i want people to use my SSH, but not to crash it...
[12:53] <Jinkguns> Anyone know the variable off the top of their head to use x11vnc to capture the desktop at a resolution of 800x600?
[12:53] <RedRose> djm62:i have it open for people to experience the linux power
[12:53] <Jinkguns> like, -geometry 800x600?
[12:53] <djst> unless of course there's a null-xserver available, that allows you to trick an X app into thinking it has an x server
[12:53] <craiga> Jinkguns: it captures the server at whatever resolution it's currently running at, doesn't it?
[12:53] <ubuntu_> hola
[12:54] <cmatheson> zenlunatic: maybe just comment out the lines about horizfreq and vertrefresh from your xorg.conf then
[12:54] <foxgamer> hey ubuntu_
[12:54] <Jinkguns> Is there any way to over-ride?
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> Jinkguns: ...
[12:54] <ubuntu_> somebody here speak spanish?
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> Jinkguns: take the screenshot, then resize
[12:54] <djm62> !es
[12:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> !tell ubuntu_ about es
[12:54] <navarone> ubuntu_,  #ubuntu-es
[12:54] <Jinkguns> Ah.
[12:55] <Jinkguns> -scale 2/3 will scall the framebugger.
[12:55] <fsn> titanium_platypu, umask? lol im somewhat new... last time all i had to do was activate it in Administration > Disks and I could see the files in it =/
[12:55] <Jinkguns> so, bah, man owns j00
[12:55] <Jinkguns> *scale
[12:55] <nagyv> Hello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?
[12:56] <foxgamer> navarone, Hi. For fear of you running scared, I'm still having problems with the grub. I have got a bit further, but have new errors now.
[12:56] <titanium_platypu> fsn: sorry, I forgot how to change the umask....I'll look it up
[12:56] <titanium_platypu> hang on
[12:56] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: okay its set correct at 60hz i found out
[12:56] <fsn> titanium_platypu, thanks
[12:57] <titanium_platypu> oh dear, I've forgotten how to do that....I haven't had that issue in a long time
[12:57] <titanium_platypu> um
[12:57] <fsn> lol
[12:57] <titanium_platypu> okay
[12:57] <titanium_platypu> I /think/ this is how you do it
[12:57] <titanium_platypu> look in your /etc/fstab file
[12:57] <navarone> no luck with intelikey foxgamer ?
[12:57] <titanium_platypu> find the entry for the device you want to make readable by all users
[12:57] <titanium_platypu> (should be one line exactly)
[12:58] <erUSUL> !tell fsn about windowsdrives
[12:58] <foxgamer> navarone, Yes, I have managed to chroot into the ubuntu partition, but I have a few errors when trying to reinstall grub -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6618
[12:58] <titanium_platypu> and then
[12:58] <titanium_platypu> http://docs.hp.com/en/B2355-90690/umask.1.html
[12:58] <titanium_platypu> go there
[12:59] <titanium_platypu> and scroll down till you see a list of four-digit numbers
[12:59] <titanium_platypu> arranged neatly in a column
[12:59] <titanium_platypu> they have descriptions for what they enable
[12:59] <titanium_platypu> add up together all the numbers of what you want enabled
[12:59] <navarone> foxgamer, c/p your device.map from /boot/grub
[12:59] <titanium_platypu> that will be your umask number
[12:59] <titanium_platypu> then, in the /etc/fstab file
[12:59] <titanium_platypu> go to the line with your device
[01:00] <titanium_platypu> and there should be an options section
[01:00] <titanium_platypu> where it might have "auto" or "user" or stuff like that, separated by commas
[01:00] <erUSUL> foxgamer, try editing device map and putting the missing )(
[01:00] <titanium_platypu> add another comma and type "umask=<number>" with <number> being the umask.
[01:00] <titanium_platypu> make sense?
[01:01] <fsn> yeah
[01:01] <titanium_platypu> okay
[01:01] <titanium_platypu> let me know if it works
[01:01] <foxgamer> navarone, I have it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6619. intellikely re-wrote the device.map and grub.conf for me, but still seems to be problems.
[01:02] <caglar> blah, somebody got a joke for me?
[01:02] <titanium_platypu> brb
[01:03] <navarone> foxgamer, how many partitions on the hardrive?
[01:03] <navarone> yes caglar..."How do you keepa  random chatter in suspense...?"
[01:04] <caglar> navarone tell me :P
[01:04] <foxgamer> navarone, I have 5 partitions in all.
[01:04] <navarone> caglar I'll tell you tomorrow
[01:04] <caglar> LOOOOOOOOOOOL
[01:04] <Carl> question - got ubuntu 64, trying 2 install macromedia flash, don't work, is there a 32 bit linux browser that will run in ubuntu 64?
[01:04] <caglar> that was real fun, i promise! ;)
[01:04] <foxgamer> navarone, my fdisk output is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6620
[01:04] <navarone> 5 partitions?
[01:05] <nagyv> Hello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?
[01:05] <caglar> nagyv try ifconfig and tell us if it shows your card
[01:06] <Carl> question - got ubuntu 64, trying 2 install macromedia flash, don't work, is there a 32 bit linux browser that will run in ubuntu 64?
[01:06] <caglar> Carl did you try firefox?
[01:06] <lucasvo> Carl: you need to create a chroot
[01:06] <lucasvo> !chroot
[01:06] <ubotu> [chroot]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:07] <Carl> ok
[01:07] <Carl> ya, fire fox is on here
[01:07] <lucasvo> Carl: second link
[01:07] <lucasvo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:09] <nagyv> caglar, it does
[01:09] <Seicherl> is gnomefreak still here?
[01:09] <Carl> wow, now I'm lost
[01:10] <coz> has anyone used the Pp "Fyre" ?
[01:10] <coz> app Fyre
[01:10] <nagyv> caglar, I have received this: ra0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:A1:81:05:F5
[01:10] <nagyv>           inet6 addr: fe80::208:a1ff:fe81:5f5/64 Scope:Link
[01:10] <nagyv>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:10] <nagyv>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:10] <nagyv>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:10] <nagyv>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[01:10] <nagyv>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[01:11] <nagyv>           Interrupt:10
[01:11] <Seicherl> nagyv: you won't get any friends when u paste those lines in here. use pastebin!
[01:11] <erUSUL> do not paste nagyv please
[01:11] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[01:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:12] <navarone> foxgamer> try making your device map simply fd0 and hd0
[01:12] <nagyv> ok, sorry: http://pastebin.com/491033
[01:13] <navarone> foxgamer...my device map has only my two drives shown and none of the extra partitions, swap, windows etc
[01:13] <Jinkguns> wtf, ARRR.
[01:13] <foxgamer> navarone, Thanks. I'll change it to show those and give it another go. Thanks :)
[01:13] <Jinkguns> What do I install to allow Audio Converter to convert to mp3?
[01:14] <navarone> np
[01:14] <navarone> np guarantees tho...lol
[01:14] <navarone> np=no
[01:14] <erUSUL> nagyv, try dhclient ra0
[01:14] <foxgamer> navarone, Anything is worth a try at this point. hehe
[01:15] <yaaar> word
[01:15] <stark-johan> how can I get a list of PIDs so that i kan use "kill" on the correct pid?
[01:15] <Jinkguns> Anyone, what do I install so Sound Converter can Convert to mp3/
[01:15] <nagyv> during dhcdiscover the led should blink? shouldn't it? (it does not)
[01:15] <paulproteus|lapt> starps ax
[01:15] <paulproteus|lapt> stark-johan: ps ax
[01:15] <navarone> foxgamer> my device.map --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6621
[01:15] <paulproteus|lapt> or 'pidof progname'
[01:16] <googlah> stark-johan: skriv "ps aux" eller "top" i terminalen. ;)
[01:16] <stark-johan> thanks och tack
[01:16] <sagarp> i downloaded all the codecs from the mplayer site, but where do i put them? /usr/lib/win32?
[01:17] <foxgamer> navarone, Ah. That makes sense. Thanks for that. As soon as I have finished this other job, I'll reboot and see if it works. :)
[01:17] <googlah> can somebody please help me configuring my wlan!? the device working. its possible to scan networks, but i cant get any contact with my router.
[01:17] <navarone> foxgamer,  okily dokily
[01:17] <erUSUL> !tell sagarp about w32codecs
[01:17] <Mooters> What would be the directory of C header files that mach my running kernel? (still use 4.10 (Warty Warthog) i know its old)
[01:17] <googlah> the channel is always on 0. i dunno why. trying to change it but i cant.
[01:17] <cajun> i'm having issues setting up my network.  i need to allow files to be shared so that my other computer can copy them
[01:18] <ubuntu_> hey hey!
[01:18] <cajun> currently this computer requires the other one to use a password that i did not set up for access
[01:18] <Seicherl> anybody willing to help me with my samba-share-mounting-problem?
[01:18] <caglar> anyone with a weblog here? want to read a blog :P
[01:18] <ubuntu_> its my first time on ubuntu!
[01:18] <nagyv> googlah, isn't your router configured to allow inly registered cards?
[01:18] <fsn> ubuntu cant play .mp3 files? or do i have to install something so i can?
[01:18] <bimberi> ubotu tell fsn about mp3
[01:18] <googlah> nagvy; no.
[01:18] <erUSUL> !mp3
[01:18] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:19] <bimberi> welcome ubuntu_ :)
[01:19] <navarone> caglar...have you read old hardcore gamer blog?  69 year old grandmother who plays 10 hrs a day and curses like a sailor...lol
[01:19] <ubuntu_> hwllo
[01:19] <ubuntu_> !!
[01:19] <ubotu> ??
[01:19] <Seicherl> lol
[01:19] <fsn> thanks, for the info
[01:19] <ubuntu_> i need some help , i dont know how this works!
[01:19] <ubuntu_> i have ubuntu 5.10
[01:20] <nagyv> the results of "dhclient ra0" can be reached at http://pastebin.com/491039
[01:20] <Seicherl> i need some aswell, but noone is willing to answer my question since hours
[01:20] <googlah> everything is set and clear. i can find the network during a scan, but i cant connect to it!
[01:20] <ubuntu_> Seicherl you noob like me=?
[01:20] <Seicherl> yep
[01:20] <Seicherl> sometimes
[01:20] <ubuntu_> ok hehe
[01:20] <ubuntu_> i just orderd an computer
[01:20] <ubuntu_> from an store
[01:20] <Seicherl> especially in running linux as client.
[01:20] <googlah> i have even no encryption but i cant connect anyway.
[01:21] <Pygi> ping freaky
[01:21] <ubuntu_> seicherl you running live CD??
[01:21] <Seicherl> googlah: checked the mac-adress?
[01:21] <Seicherl> nope. 5.10 install
[01:21] <ubuntu_> i jus trunning live CD
[01:21] <ubuntu_> where you from
[01:21] <Seicherl> austria.
[01:21] <ubuntu_> ok ns i am from sweden
[01:22] <ubuntu_> you play computer games??
[01:22] <Seicherl> yes, but i'm not sure if we should talk that much rubish in here.
[01:22] <ubuntu_> hahaha
[01:22] <ubuntu_> i iam just woried
[01:22] <Seicherl> i'd rather like somebody to help me with my client
[01:22] <erUSUL> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:22] <sagarp> man i installed the w32codecs package, but wmv files still dont play
[01:23] <SealyDave> i cant use my background configuration frame (all white) for setting wallpaper in KDE, any suggestions
[01:23] <ubuntu_> i just worried if i can play the games i want to play in here
[01:23] <nagyv> Seicherl, what are you doing to mount it?
[01:23] <erUSUL> sagarp, have you tried with xine?
[01:23] <Seicherl> fstab
[01:23] <Seicherl> I don't know how to handle this error: "smbfs: mount_data version xxx is not supported"! Any suggestions?
[01:24] <sagarp> erusul, no, i tried just now with mplayer and it plays, but not totem
[01:24] <_Gandalf_> hello, actually i have a little problem which i couldn't figure out the reason of it, I have a laptop which has a widescreen 1280 x 768, i managed finally to see the screen on an external 1024 x 768 monitor but i have to change resolution to 1024x768, now the problem is whenever i try to play a video, on my laptop LCD i can see it, but on my CRT screen all i see is a blue window, i don't see any video :( , here's my xorg.conf ->
[01:24] <_Gandalf_>  http://pastebin.ca/35792
[01:24] <googlah> damn, whats wrong? i can see the network during a scan but cant connect.
[01:24] <googlah> thats the only problem.
[01:24] <foxgamer> navarone, Hiya. Guess what? No luck. Still getting the error 13 message. This is getting slightly frustrating. hehe
[01:24] <ubuntu_> how to see witch games who is not working on UBUNTU!!!
[01:24] <ubuntu_> i play games
[01:24] <Seicherl> googlah: checked the mac-adress? are they blocked maybe?
[01:25] <ubuntu_> i Convert if the games i working ;)
[01:25] <erUSUL> sagarp, install gstreamer0.8-pitfdll
[01:26] <sagarp> erusul, oh that worked thanks man
[01:26] <Seicherl> nagyv: any suggestions?
[01:26] <erUSUL> sagarp, np
[01:26] <nagyv> Seicherl, nop.
[01:26] <Jinkguns> What driver should I use to output, using mplayer?
[01:26] <llbrua> what is the best program for playing AAC and MP3 files on ubuntu?
[01:27] <Seicherl> nagyv: oh
[01:27] <googlah> Seicherl; checked the mac-adress? why is that necessary? just wanna establish a contact with the router.
[01:27] <nagyv> Seicherl, I would suggest you to connect first with basic commands instead of useing fstab. Whether you can see the share, and so.
[01:27] <Seicherl> googlah: have you blocked mac-adresses?
[01:27] <navarone> foxgamer, I dunno what to tell you...:/
[01:27] <[cro] smiley> hi all
[01:27] <googlah> Seicherl; nope.
[01:27] <Seicherl> nagyv: i can connect and see via kde.
[01:27] <caglar> Jinkguns I use xv
[01:27] <dos-assassin> Anyone know how to install Yahelinux on this OS?
[01:28] <Seicherl> googlah: what router?
[01:28] <googlah> i think the problem is on the computer. i even can't change the channel. ;/
[01:28] <Seicherl> googlah: I mean the model or producer
[01:28] <foxgamer> navarone, I just thought that if I changed that file, I might need to grub-install again, so I did, now I have the message that's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6623. I think it seems to have installed okay. What do you think?
[01:28] <googlah> Secherl; it's an belkin pre-n router.
[01:28] <nagyv> Seicherl, try smbtree for example. And so on. Approach the mounting problem step, by step.
[01:28] <kalin> hi pals
[01:29] <googlah> seicherl; i've tried everything.
[01:29] <Seicherl> nagyv: ok, i don't know what it is, but i'll try
[01:29] <Jinkguns> woohoo
[01:29] <Seicherl> googlah: ok, don't know that company. If it was a netgear i wouldn't wonder ;)
[01:29] <kalin> i would like to know if it's possible to play starcraft over linux
[01:29] <dos-assassin> PuMpErNiCkLe, you still in here?
[01:29] <nagyv> Seicherl, as a very user friendly frontend you can also try to use smb4k to browse your samba network
[01:29] <Mooters> where are the C header files stored for the kernel?
[01:30] <nagyv> Seicherl, it can happen that it will have some more useful infos.
[01:30] <Seicherl> nagyv: what i get is a tree of the workgroup and all shares.
[01:30] <navarone> foxgamer are you on a mac?
[01:30] <foxgamer> navarone, No. Just a pc.
[01:30] <Seicherl> it uses the servers name, not the ip. could that be a reason?
[01:31] <nagyv> Seicherl, no.
[01:31] <Seicherl> damn
[01:31] <navarone> foxgamer> wtf is with the xfs error? isn't that the mac fs ?
[01:31] <Seicherl> well... so i'm no bit wiser
[01:31] <erUSUL> navarone, no is a linux fs mac uses hfs afaik
[01:31] <sin> navarone, thats hfs
[01:31] <foxgamer> navarone, I have no idea. I have only just started with linux and I am only on the first chapter of my linux book! lol
[01:32] <defendguin> hey ai turned on my computer today and the sound doesnt work.  it worked yesterday
[01:32] <kalin> i would like to know if it's possible playing atarcraft on ubuntu?
[01:32] <navarone> foxgamer...you pasted extra part on second portion of device map...root@local host part
[01:32] <dos-assassin> Does anyone know how to install Yahelinux on Ubuntu OS?
[01:32] <Seicherl> nagyv: I'm just wondering cause syslog tells me that "mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported"
[01:32] <nagyv> Seicherl, you will understand this. I don't know what it says, but it is in german. http://www.ubuntu-forum.de/post/3818/lastpost.html#post3818
[01:32] <Kyral> dos-assassin: Ubuntu is Linux
[01:32] <navarone> foxgamer clear that part and try again with grun install
[01:33] <navarone> grub*
[01:33] <dos-assassin> Yahelinux... the yahelite version for Linux
[01:33] <foxgamer> navarone, Sorry, that is just the output of the terminal. The [root@localhost ~] # is just the prompt.
[01:33] <navarone> okie
[01:33] <Kyral> what is yahelite?
[01:33] <zenlunatic> cmatheson: you there?
[01:33] <dos-assassin> A yahoo chat client...
[01:34] <navarone> foxgamer give a check anyway...<s>
[01:34] <Seicherl> nagyv: man, i could have known myself...
[01:34] <titanium_platypu> fsn, how's it going?
[01:34] <kalin> is it possible to play starcraft on ubuntu?
[01:34] <nagyv> Seicherl, what?
[01:34] <Seicherl> nagyv: LOL! Not only a noob sometimes, I'm even stupid!
[01:34] <Kyral> dos-assassin: Use GAIM
[01:34] <titanium_platypu> okay, how do I install a kernel source package for Ubuntu 5.10 with the following kernel version
[01:34] <Seicherl> nagyv: apt-get install smbfs
[01:34] <fsn> titanium_platypu,  worked perfectly thanks =D
[01:34] <nagyv> hmmm lololololololol
[01:34] <titanium_platypu> yay
[01:34] <titanium_platypu> np
[01:34] <titanium_platypu> :)
[01:34] <fsn> not im just getting it to play .mp3's lol
[01:35] <foxgamer> navarone, The file is fine. Just the way it should be :) This is the furthest I have got yet, so I am going to try a reboot. Wish me luck! lol
[01:35] <titanium_platypu> fsn: google for "Ubuntu Starter Guide"
[01:35] <titanium_platypu> click the first page that comes up
[01:35] <titanium_platypu> all kinds of tweaks and stuff (including mp3 support) are in there.
[01:35] <Seicherl> oh man... I should stop hacking this machine after so many hours...
[01:35] <titanium_platypu> 2.6.12-10-386
[01:35] <titanium_platypu> how do I get a kernel source package installed for that version?
[01:36] <fsn> titanium_platypu, yeah i already did the repositories or whatever they are called, now just need to get the music player to show up lol... it just says starting but never opens
[01:36] <jdier> running xfce/ubuntu - every time it boots it is running nautilus for the desktop and I have to do a # killall nautilus followed by a # xfcedesktop
[01:36] <nagyv> Seicherl, I think you owe me one! Have a good night, and find someone to solve my wifi problem. :)
[01:36] <Seicherl> nagyv: whats your wifi problem?
[01:36] <titanium_platypu> fsn, did you install xmms?
[01:36] <jdier> sometimes I do not get my right click xfce menu back
[01:36] <Seicherl> nagyv: yes, the beers go on me
[01:37] <dos-assassin> I am using GAIM but I would like to use Yahelinux for the voice client and because it has alot more tools for Yahoo
[01:37] <nagyv> Austrian beers, do I remember well? Sorry, but I prefer the Hungarian wines.
[01:37] <fsn> titanium_platypu, no, i was going to try to use the music player that came with ubuntu but i think ill end up installing it lol
[01:38] <navarone> jdier...when you are logging out make sure no naultilus session is open and check the save session box as you are going to logout
[01:38] <Seicherl> nagyv: Austrian wines are also great. white or red?
[01:38] <nagyv> I have a wifi which is recognized by the system, but I can not get it working. When I try to enable, it remains without "blinking".
[01:38] <navarone> jdier...also make sure each desktop has no running instances of the prog
[01:38] <Seicherl> you mean the interface?
[01:38] <titanium_platypu> fsn, if you're referring to rhythmbox, it sucks
[01:38] <xenomorf> hello..
[01:38] <nagyv> yes. it is a pcmcia card.
[01:39] <xenomorf> i got a question here...
[01:39] <jdier> navarone - I will try it.  what do you mean "instances of the prog"?  do you mean nautilus?  I can check with # top, yes?
[01:39] <Seicherl> laptop... you tried another pcmcia-card so you can be sure that the slot is working?
[01:39] <fsn> titanium_platypu, yeah, but im already installing xmms, much easier following the guide (tried download from xmm's site and it whent horrible i just gave up lol)
[01:39] <navarone> titanium_platypu, the thing I like most about r-box is just the simple burning of playlists...other than that I use xmms
[01:39] <titanium_platypu> just do "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:40] <navarone> jdier...make sure you don't have any nautilus windows open
[01:40] <titanium_platypu> navarone, I suppose....I could never get it to do anything right though
[01:40] <apokryphos> noo, why xmms? :/
[01:40] <gratuit> beep-media-player is like xmms, but better
[01:40] <nagyv> It was working today morning. (Yesterday, actually.)
[01:40] <foxgamer> navarone, It's worked! By gum it's worked!
[01:40] <titanium_platypu> um xmms is like 73h r0x0r
[01:40] <apokryphos> anything is better than xmms
[01:40] <apokryphos> :/
[01:40] <Seicherl> hmmm... did you change anything?
[01:40] <xenomorf> when i type sudo apt -get something... i got error message: apt command not found
[01:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi i have a problem with ubuntu, everything runs fine on the desktop but when i reboot it switches to a text mode after completeing all the checks, the only way i can get into a login screen is by hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and waiting 10 minutes, can i get some assistance please, much appreciated
[01:41] <titanium_platypu> xenomorf: it's apt-get, not apt -get
[01:41] <titanium_platypu> no space
[01:41] <foxgamer> navarone, Thank you SO much for all your help. I appreciate it fully. Now to tidy up the system so it doesn't happen again :D
[01:41] <xenomorf> oh.. i'll try..
[01:41] <titanium_platypu> lol ;)
[01:41] <navarone> titanium_platypu, I know...it took a awhile for me to get it to even play the files...it would just happily skip thru library putting "!"'s at the file names...but I downloaded the full support package for alsa,oss,esd etc...all in one and maybe that helped
[01:41] <titanium_platypu> o_o
[01:41] <xenomorf> 1 more thing..
[01:41] <nagyv> Later my system crashed. ACPI is a shit, and it was working for 5 minutes, when it told me 0 minutes left. Ones everything was frozen, but still light. I had to reboot. From that time I don't have a wifi.
[01:41] <titanium_platypu> I'd rather just get xxms, have it be a much more compact player, and have it work right away
[01:41] <xenomorf> after i installed gcc...
[01:42] <xenomorf> when i type gcc at the terminal.. same thing command not found.. why?
[01:42] <navarone> foxgamer...good...now do you havea  floppy drive? if so I would make a floppy boot disk
[01:42] <titanium_platypu> hm....
[01:42] <titanium_platypu> "command not found" or "no input files"?
[01:42] <foxgamer> navarone, No I don't. Can I put one onto cd?
[01:42] <titanium_platypu> xenomorf, that is
[01:42] <nagyv> I don't have other pcmcia cards, but this one is recognized, so I think it should work.
[01:43] <Seicherl> nagyv: did you change anything since yesterday?
[01:43] <xenomorf> actually it's bash:command not found... or something like that..
[01:43] <titanium_platypu> oh, okay....
[01:43] <titanium_platypu> that's odd
[01:43] <titanium_platypu> it should be finding it if you installed it;
[01:43] <titanium_platypu> .*
[01:43] <xenomorf> it means gcc doesnt exist at all..
[01:43] <nagyv> Seicherl, Nothing. The pastebin of my ifconfig and dhclient are at http://pastebin.com/491039
[01:43] <navarone> foxgamer I don't see why not...but I dunno how to "burn" it on a cd...if you figure it out I would suggest getting one of those business card type one...the small cd's that are like 23mb or summin
[01:43] <googlah> woho, just suceeded to crash my fresh install of ubuntu. :o)
[01:44] <foxgamer> navarone, I shall look into getting that done right now before I touch anything else. lol. Again, thanks for your help. I'm sure I'll return in the near future! hehe
[01:44] <nagyv> googlah, you are so great! :)
[01:44] <fsn> hmm, i get no sound with xmms =/
[01:44] <googlah> nagyv, yeah i know!
[01:45] <googlah> heh.
[01:45] <navarone> okie foxgamer
[01:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hi i have a problem with ubuntu, everything runs fine on the desktop but when i reboot it switches to a text mode after completeing all the checks, the only way i can get into a login screen is by hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and waiting 10 minutes, can i get some assistance please, much appreciated
[01:45] <Seicherl> nagyv: That tells me absolutely nothing
[01:45] <googlah> but the damn wlan wont work. been fighting it for a couple of damn hours now! :(
[01:45] <titanium_platypu> when I say "apt-get install kernel-source" it gives me three versions to pick from
[01:45] <titanium_platypu> none of them are my kernel version
[01:45] <titanium_platypu> what do I do?
[01:46] <Seicherl> nagyv: It just says that there was absolutely no traffic on ra0.... but the dhcp-stuff makes me nervous
[01:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: Does it print out any error messages?
[01:47] <navarone> hmm...is this day of the blind or braille or something? google.ca has their name in braille...lol
[01:47] <nagyv> Seicherl, exactly. And that it won't get an IP when requested. Although nothing has been changed.
[01:47] <Seicherl> nagyv: why is it DHCPDISCOVER on ra0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7? I mean the adress actually is not a real adress, is it?
[01:47] <gratuit> titanium_platypu: do you need the source or the headers?
[01:47] <titanium_platypu> the source
[01:47] <titanium_platypu> so I can install Nvidia drivers
[01:47] <Granis> Hello. I have problems getting ubuntu to boot with an NFS root. The nic works, it gets an IP and the NFR root information from the dhcp. I have verfied that it connect to the NFS server to the rpc service, but it still fails with the error message "NFS over TCP no available at x.x.x.x". Any ideas?
[01:47] <nagyv> Seicherl, I don't know. I think this is the general way how it works.
[01:47] <gratuit> titanium_platypu: you only need the headers
[01:47] <Seicherl> are you sure that it is trying to connect to the server correctly?
[01:47] <titanium_platypu> the headers are already on there....
[01:48] <titanium_platypu> and the driver installation complains that it can't find kernel source.
[01:48] <nagyv> no. But I have no better ideas.
[01:48] <Seicherl> how did you get that dhcp-output`
[01:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: none at all
[01:48] <nagyv> with the command "dhclient ra0"
[01:48] <gratuit> titanium_platypu: do you have a sym link at /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/<header dir>?
[01:48] <Jinkguns> Any ideas on how to get firefox to play nice with a .swf with embedded mp3?
[01:48] <jdier> navarone - this time no nautilus desktop running, but also no xfcedesktop.  I did a # xfcedesktop and I am back up and running.
[01:48] <jdier> any idea how to get xfcedesktop to run at startup?
[01:49] <Granis> I can manually add the NFS root if boot locally without any problems.
[01:49] <Seicherl> ok.... i get almost the same. so that's right (although it looks wierd)
[01:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: Ubuntu has several 'virtual' terminals, and it only uses one for a graphical logon.  You can switch between them by hitting alt+F1 - F7.
[01:49] <gratuit> titanium_platypu: and you don know that the nvidia modules are in the linux-restricted-modules package right?
[01:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: so when it boots i can hit alt+f1 ?
[01:50] <gratuit> titanium_platypu: so there is little need to build them
[01:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: Next time you reboot, check all of them for a graphical logon.
[01:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: ok alt f1-f7
[01:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: alt+F1, alt+F2, alt+F3......
[01:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: ok thanks.
[01:50] <nagyv> I really have to leave now. Have a good night! Bye!
[01:50] <titanium_platypu> gratuit: the only thing in my /usr/src/ directory is an "rpm" directory.
[01:50] <Seicherl> but i get a Discover to 255.255.255.255, then an OFFER from the server, then a request to 255.255.255.255, then a oack from the server
[01:50] <Seicherl> ok, CU
[01:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: If they're all empty, logon from the command line and type 'startx'
[01:50] <Seicherl> oh, already gone
[01:50] <gratuit> titanium_platypu: then you don't have the headers installed
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> it says I do
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> -_-
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> I guess it lies
[01:51] <Seicherl> looks like his mum came in ;)
[01:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: thats the thing i have no command line
[01:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ...
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> let me show you what I mean, gratuit:
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> caleb@calebs:~$ dpkg -l *kernel*
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> I type that
[01:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> In what sense?  A completely blank screen?
[01:51] <dagreene> ubuntu
[01:51] <Seicherl> CanYouHelpMePlz: I'm sure you have but you don't know
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> and one of the resulting lines is:
[01:51] <titanium_platypu> ii  linux-kernel-h 2.6.11.2-0ubun Linux Kernel Headers for development
[01:51] <xenomorf> well.. it works now...
[01:52] <navarone> jdier...are you using ubuntu with gnome installed or just xubunut?
[01:52] <titanium_platypu> caleb@calebs:~$ ls /usr/src
[01:52] <titanium_platypu> and all that appears is "rpm"
[01:52] <Seicherl> CanYouHelpMePlz: sorry for that... i had to.
[01:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Seicherl: it's ok.
[01:52] <xenomorf> before that i used sypnatic package managet to install.. didnt work..
[01:52] <titanium_platypu> what now?
[01:52] <Seicherl> CanYouHelpMePlz: my evil twin is taking over
[01:52] <Toma-> titanium_platypu: youre looking for the src?
[01:52] <jdier> naverone - ubuntu with gnome and xfce installed
[01:52] <googlah> quick quick question. is it "auto wlan0" or "wlan0 auto" in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:52] <xenomorf> after i used apt-get.. works..
[01:52] <Toma-> googlah: auto wlan0
[01:52] <titanium_platypu> I need kernel source.  The nvidia driver installation says I need to have kernel source installed.
[01:52] <googlah> thanks.
[01:53] <navarone> jdier...at the logon screen you should have option when you chose xfce to make it default
[01:53] <Seicherl> damn... too slow with the interfaces....
[01:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Seicherl: lol
[01:53] <Toma-> titanium_platypu: i do believe its /lib/modules/kerfnelnumber/kernel/ or build/
[01:53] <Kratos> Hi
[01:53] <Awal> hey I have two ethernet interfaces connected and when I bridge them I cant connect to the internet. can anyone help?
[01:53] <jdier> navarone - I can do that fine.  It is once that it starts that I do not have a background or a right click desktop menu
[01:54] <titanium_platypu> I think that's just modules, Toma-
[01:54] <Seicherl> ok guys... my ubuntu is running, i got my shares... i go to bed (after i checked my windows-partition if its still working after the shrinking)
[01:54] <Toma-> titanium_platypu: ok. well whats the package name?
[01:54] <titanium_platypu> I think it's kernel-source
[01:54] <Seicherl> Awal: you want to build up a router?
[01:54] <Awal> yea
[01:54] <Toma-> titanium_platypu: run 'apt-file list <packahename>'
[01:54] <Awal> well firewall
[01:54] <titanium_platypu> but when I do "apt-get install kernel-source" it gives me three versions to pick from
[01:54] <titanium_platypu> and none match my kernel version.
[01:54] <Toma-> itll spew out where all the files are
[01:54] <Kratos> I'm wondering how I can get Ubuntu Hoary installed on an older machine. It's an old Intel Pentium Pro. When I try to boot from install disk I receive an error message.
[01:54] <Seicherl> Awal: that's the same in that case
[01:54] <titanium_platypu> Toma-, I don't even have the package installed....
[01:55] <titanium_platypu> that's what I'm trying to do.
[01:55] <Awal> yea ok
[01:55] <Toma-> titanium_platypu: you dont need kernel source, you need kernel-headers
[01:55] <Seicherl> Awal: you have to set iptables
[01:55] <bimberi> titanium_platypu: "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"
[01:55] <titanium_platypu> well I have kernel headers installed
[01:55] <Awal> no im kinda a noob
[01:55] <Granis> titanium_platypu perhaps add universe to the apt sources
[01:55] <titanium_platypu> why won't the nvidia install work?
[01:55] <navarone> jdier...xfce has minimal menus...try left clicking on desktop or even middel clicking if you have middle button...if not try both buttons at once. I have xfce installed as well but I rarely use it so I am not too up on it
[01:55] <Seicherl> Awal: can you connect to the internet?
[01:55] <stoneage> nobody need a kernel!
[01:55] <xenomorf> can someone tell me how to compile a c++ file using kdevelop?
[01:55] <Awal> yea
[01:55] <Awal> im on the computer right now
[01:55] <titanium_platypu> oh okay
[01:55] <titanium_platypu> I'll try that, bimberi
[01:55] <Seicherl> Awal: ok. great! congratulations!
[01:55] <Toma-> titanium_platypu: why not use the nvidia packages that are pre-compiled?
[01:55] <Awal> but the bridge wont work
[01:56] <Seicherl> Awal: when i worked on that it took me hours to get that far
[01:56] <titanium_platypu> Toma-, it didn't find one.
[01:56] <Toma-> !nvidia
[01:56] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:56] <Seicherl> Awal: let me think a moment. I did so a couple of weeks ago.
[01:56] <Toma-> read that ^
[01:56] <Awal> well when i bridge them I can connect on the other computers behind it, just not on this one
[01:57] <jdier> navarone - thanks for the help.  My problem is that when xfce starts I do not have any desktop menus (right, middle, or left) and the xfce wallpaper is not there.  basically there is a program called xfcedesktop which I cannot get to run on boot.  I boot, then type xfcedesktop & at a command prompt and all is good.  again thanks for the effort
[01:57] <Seicherl> Awal: you mean, you can connect from firewall to client or what?
[01:57] <Seicherl> Awal: you mean a ping? or a connection? what kind of connection?
[01:57] <Awal> the firewall computer wont connect to the internet when bridged
[01:58] <Awal> but the others behind it can
[01:58] <Awal> just any kind i guess
[01:58] <Seicherl> Awal: thats funny
[01:58] <navarone> jdier do you boot straight to gnome when you use it?
[01:58] <Awal> sure to you, but it is really pissing me off
[01:58] <titanium_platypu> okay, I'll try installing now.
[01:58] <titanium_platypu> thanks everyone.
[01:58] <Seicherl> Awal: you got an iptables-script somewhere?
[01:58] <jdier> no, to xfce
[01:58] <Toma-> crazy people and their crazy compiles :D
[01:59] <Awal> like firestarter?
[01:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with my printer? printing out test pages works, but when i try to print out something with abiword it spits out blank paper
[01:59] <Seicherl> Awal: what did you use to set up the bridge?
[01:59] <Awal> bridge utilities
[01:59] <Awal> brctl
[01:59] <Awal> commands
[01:59] <Seicherl> Awal: mhmhm...
[02:00] <Seicherl> Awal: whats your interfaces file look like? something like ppp0 <blabla> eth0 <blabla> eth1 ...?
[02:01] <StarbuckZero> Did anyone have the problem where the nvidia driver doesn't load after reboot?
[02:01] <Awal> umm
[02:01] <Awal> i dont know
[02:01] <Awal> eth1 is from the modem
[02:01] <Seicherl> Awal: goto console
[02:01] <Awal> eth0 to the router
[02:01] <Awal> k
[02:02] <Seicherl> type this: less /etc/network/interfaces
[02:02] <Seicherl> Awal: did you say router?
[02:02] <Awal> yea
[02:02] <Seicherl> a dsl-router?
[02:02] <Awal> wait, no switch
[02:02] <Awal> hub
[02:03] <Seicherl> or
[02:03] <Seicherl> ok
[02:03] <robzon> hey
[02:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with my printer? printing out test pages works, but when i try to print out something with abiword it spits out blank paper
[02:03] <Kratos> I'm trying to run Hoary from Live-CD on a vintage machine. Specs are: Intel Pentium Pro 200Mhz, 128MB EDO, LG CD-RW Drive. I get the following error message: ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16 isolinux: Loading spec packet failed trying to wing it... isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM device; boot failed.
[02:03] <Seicherl> so the fw should establish the connection that is shared to the network?
[02:03] <Awal> yea
[02:03] <Seicherl> ok.
[02:03] <Awal> here :# The primary network interface
[02:03] <Awal> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[02:03] <Awal> auto eth1
[02:03] <Awal> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[02:03] <Awal> auto eth0
[02:03] <robzon> I want to upgrade to dapper... will it be enough if I simply s/breezy/dapper in sources.list?
[02:03] <Seicherl> PLZ do not paste in here
[02:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !printer
[02:03] <ubotu> printer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[02:04] <Awal> sorry
[02:04] <Jinkguns> http://www.deranged.net/~jetman877/in.html <--- Any idea why my cursor is messed up?
[02:04] <Seicherl> !paste
[02:04] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:04] <Seicherl> take the first one
[02:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robzon: To upgrade, type 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[02:04] <robzon> I've changed sources to dapper drake and synaptic wants to remove packages like hotplug and I'm not so sure about it
[02:04] <markus-_-> i want to install opera in 5.10
[02:05] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with my printer? printing out test pages works, but when i try to print out something with abiword it spits out blank paper
[02:05] <Kratos> I'm trying to run Hoary from Live-CD on a vintage machine. Specs are: Intel Pentium Pro 200Mhz, 128MB EDO, LG CD-RW Drive. I get the following error message: ISOLINUX 2.04 2003-04-16 isolinux: Loading spec packet failed trying to wing it... isolinux: Failed to locate CD-ROM device; boot failed.
[02:05] <markus-_-> i downloaded the deb file for my distribution from the opera website
[02:05] <markus-_-> now what do i do with it?
[02:05] <Seicherl> Awal: here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6625
[02:05] <robzon> PuMpErNiCkLe: so it's ok that it wants to remove hotplug? nothing to worry about? :)
[02:05] <markus-_-> lol
[02:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: That sounds like a problem with AbiWord... have you tested it with another app, like OOo?
[02:05] <djstillman> Hey all.  Anyone good with hp laserjet drivers?
[02:05] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: yea same problem, or it prints it with the text really light?\
[02:05] <Toma-> Kratos: is it an scsi cdrom?
[02:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robzon: put 'breezy' back where it used to be, then run the dist-upgrade
[02:06] <Kratos> Toma-: No
[02:06] <navarone> markus> in terminal cd to directory that has deb file and type "sudo dpkg -i <operafilename>.deb
[02:06] <Awal> here is mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6626
[02:06] <Seicherl> Awal: what kind of connection do you have? dsl?
[02:06] <Awal> yea dsl
[02:06] <navarone> yay! furry lil friendly monchichi...<s>
[02:06] <titanium_platypu> okay, that worked to get the driver installed.  Thanks....n
[02:06] <titanium_platypu> Next problem:
[02:07] <titanium_platypu> I can't go above 1024x768 in my Gnome settings
[02:07] <titanium_platypu> but in xorg.conf it shows higher resolutions
[02:07] <titanium_platypu> what the crap?
[02:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robzon: Although now that I think about it, I heard somewhere that Dapper uses a different system than hotplug.
[02:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robzon: I forget what it's called, though.
[02:07] <Seicherl> Awal: as far as i know (that's the way mine works): you establish a connection via the ppp0 interface (which actually is a "virtual" interface)
[02:08] <Awal> ppp0 isnt for dial up?
[02:08] <Granis> Hello. I have problems getting ubuntu to boot with an NFS root. The nic works, it gets an IP and the NFR root information from the dhcp. I have verfied that it connect to the NFS server to the rpc service, but it still fails with the error message "NFS over TCP no available at x.x.x.x". I can manually add the NFS root if boot locally without any problems. Any ideas?
[02:08] <Seicherl> nope ADSL works aswell (at least in austria)
[02:08] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: just printed out another perfect test page?
[02:08] <robzon> PuMpErNiCkLe: oh.. ok then.. so to make this clear, I'm supposed to run dist-upgrade with breezy repos in sources.list? weird...
[02:08] <StarbuckZero> Can someone help me with my nvidia driver problem?
[02:08] <Awal> ic
[02:08] <Seicherl> Awal: where are you from?
[02:08] <Awal> US
[02:08] <Seicherl> ok
[02:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robzon: I belive so, yeah.
[02:08] <StarbuckZero> I can't get X11 to start after a reboot.
[02:08] <Awal> Kansas
[02:08] <djstillman> StarbuckZero - what is the problem?
[02:09] <Seicherl> hmmm.... let me look. hold on
[02:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robzon: dist-upgrade is supposed to handle transitions between releases...
[02:09] <dfgas> is there a way to configure certain programs without editing the configuration files directly   ie: apache
[02:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> robzon: At least, if I'm wrong, it'll fail in a way that won't affect anything. :)
[02:09] <hyphenated> dfgas: you mean with a pretty GUI instead of plain-text config files?
[02:10] <hosler> Can someone help me with tsocks and proxychains? Both dont work, but I know my proxy server is up and running. Proxychains says the proxy is broken, and tsosks says it isnt in the local subnet even when i add the ip to the local field. I know the proxy works becuase i can use it in firefox.
[02:10] <dfgas> hyphenated, lol, exactly
[02:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: Under file:printer settings have you tried messing with the greyscale settings?
[02:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: no
[02:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: It might help.
[02:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PuMpErNiCkLe: in abiword?
[02:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I was looking at OOo, but AbiWord probably has something similar.
[02:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I don't have AbiWord installed.
[02:11] <Seicherl> Awal: goto console and look at this: less /etc/ppp/chap-secrets
[02:11] <hyphenated> dfgas: yeah, there are tools for that. webmin for example
[02:11] <hyphenated> dfgas: I don't use them, but have a look, have a play, and see if you find something you like
[02:12] <Seicherl> Awal: and tell me if there is something like your dsl-username and password in it
[02:12] <dfgas> also is firestarter on a repo somewhere?
[02:12] <StarbuckZero> djstillman - X11 doesn't start unless I reinstall the drivers.
[02:12] <Seicherl> dfgas: wanna install a router or fw?
[02:12] <Awal> well we dont use it but I think we have one
[02:12] <Kratos> !oldhardware?
[02:12] <ubotu> Kratos: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:12] <Awal> i mean we havent had to use it
[02:12] <dfgas> Seicherl, yes
[02:12] <Kratos> Meh... -_-\
[02:12] <Seicherl> dfgas: so listen here. I'm just trying to guide Awal
[02:13] <dfgas> cool
[02:13] <djstillman> StarbuckZero - can you post your xorg.conf somewhere?
[02:13] <robzon> ok.. I'm gonna run dist-upgrade now and go to sleep and wake up and cry about my broken ubuntu ;)
[02:13] <Awal> that command didnt give me anything really
[02:13] <robzon> anyways, see you all later
[02:13] <Seicherl> so the file is empty?
[02:13] <Awal> no
[02:13] <StarbuckZero> Sure
[02:13] <Seicherl> dfgas, Awal: would you mind going to another channel for that matters?
[02:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> does ubuntu use cups?
[02:13] <Awal> no
[02:14] <Seicherl> ok. hold on
[02:14] <StarbuckZero> You want me to post it here?
[02:14] <dfgas> Seicherl, sounds good
[02:14] <hosler> Can someone help me with tsocks and proxychains? Both dont work, but I know my proxy server is up and running. Proxychains says the proxy is broken, and tsosks says it isnt in the local subnet even when i add the ip to the local field. I know the proxy works becuase i can use it in firefox.
[02:14] <Seicherl> ok, join #setuprouter
[02:15] <vik> I have a peculiar boot problem: I've moved my system from one hard disk to another; the root partition is still hda2 as before, but I moved the swap partition from hda3 to hda6. After updating fstab, the system hangs when booting. After trying a few things, I put the swap back on hda3. Now it works OK. I want to move swap back to the end of the drive; is the location of the swap partition mentioned anywhere apart from fstab?
[02:15] <djstillman> StarbuckZero - no, on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:17] <StarbuckZero> ok
[02:19] <markus-_-> how do i find out where a program is installed...... if i installed it using synaptic package manager?
[02:19] <StarbuckZero> Okay I posted it
[02:19] <Davey`> markus-_-:
[02:19] <] BreliC[> i'm using Breezy... and amaroK had been working without issue until today, when it won't even start (it crashes immediately and prompts me to send a backtrace)... has anyone else experienced this?
[02:19] <markus-_-> yes Davey`
[02:19] <djstillman> StarbuckZero - link please?
[02:19] <StarbuckZero> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6627
[02:19] <Davey`> markus-_-: right click > properties > installed files (tab)
[02:19] <StarbuckZero> I changed the nvidia back to nv
[02:20] <StarbuckZero> So that way I could start X
[02:20] <] BreliC[> the only thing i installed today was gtk2-engines-qtpixmap and the updates yesterday (cpio, fetchmail)
[02:20] <markus-_-> where in synaptic package manager?
[02:20] <calota> hi
[02:20] <quacker> vik, what does your fstab line look like; did you fdisk the /dev/hda6 as swap/Solaris partition or just change the entry in /etc/fstab?
[02:20] <Davey`> markus-_-: on the item itself, right pane :)
[02:20] <Hikaru79> markus-_-, right click the package itself. Like, the name of it in the list.
[02:21] <markus-_-> in synaptic package manager you mean?
[02:21] <djstillman> StarbuckZero - PM me...
[02:21] <cvadlama> i keep getting invalid password for root error
[02:21] <quacker> (good question, BTW -- I've never had problems moving swap around in Debian)
[02:21] <cvadlama> and i can use the same passwd to su into
[02:21] <Hikaru79> markus-_-, precisely.
[02:21] <cvadlama> any idea what could be wrong
[02:22] <vik> quacker: fdisk'ed to linux swap, and changed fstab, and mkswap'ed
[02:22] <markus-_-> which file is the one i need to point my launcher at
[02:22] <markus-_-> its opera web client
[02:22] <] BreliC[> amarok gives me this error "kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-vince/ksycoca'!" and a few others
[02:22] <fangorious> there's something wrong with acpi on my laptop. I have /etc/acpi/event/sleepbtn set to run hibernate.sh and gnome-power-manager set to hibernate when the suspend button is pressed (and the computer sleep style set to hibernate too). the problem is that hitting the sleep button (fn+f3) suspends the computer rather than hibernate it
[02:22] <] BreliC[> yuck
[02:22] <] BreliC[> then KIO craps out
[02:23] <StarbuckZero> PM you?
[02:24] <Davey`> markus-_-: you installed the Opera deb?
[02:24] <markus-_-> well synaptic package manager did
[02:24] <fangorious> it was working fine for a while, and i'm not sure what changed
[02:24] <quacker> vik, AFAIK, that's how it's *supposed* to be done (although your init scripts should take care of mkswap for you on a restart).  So I have no idea what to suggest.  You'll hve to wait for someone more cluefull, I'm afraid.
[02:24] <Davey`> markus-_-: OK, do this, open up a command line, and try: opera
[02:24] <djstillman> StarbuckZero - yes.  Right click on my name, and select Open Dialog Window...
[02:24] <Davey`> if that works, put: opera %u in the launcher
[02:25] <vik> quacker: thanks anyway
[02:25] <markus-_-> so how do i make a launcher that does that
[02:25] <markus-_-> lol
[02:25] <Davey`> markus-_-: OK, where do you want it?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, right click panel add custom launcher name it what you want and for command type opera
[02:26] <Davey`> he might want it in his Applications Menu
[02:26] <markus-_-> kewl
[02:26] <markus-_-> that easy
[02:26] <quacker> vik, you might set BOOT_DEBUG=1 as a boot argument in grub and also look at dmesg
[02:26] <markus-_-> wow
[02:26] <markus-_-> i thought i had to point it to a file
[02:26] <Davey`> markus-_-: yes, pretty easy :)
[02:26] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, unless you want it in your menu
[02:27] <Davey`> markus-_-: the Opera icon should be in /usr/share/pixmaps
[02:27] <markus-_-> do i need to run it in terminal
[02:27] <quacker> Maybe you can find something yourself while you wait for the Bear of the Holy Clue to logon here, heh.
[02:27] <Davey`> nope
[02:27] <quacker> 'Bearer'
[02:27] <johndew> Any way to find out which user was the last to write a certain file?
[02:28] <djstillman> Anyone here know much about hp laserjet printers??
[02:28] <quacker> (ummm, maybe that's DEBUG_BOOT -- I can't remember)
[02:28] <vik> quacker: I've pasted the last four lines before it hangs into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6629
[02:28] <sab> m
[02:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> omfg.. the bat of clue thats a serious bat
[02:28] <cafuego> djstillman: Just ask your question.
[02:28] <fangorious> anyone have any familiarity with configuring acpi events/scripts?
[02:29] <quacker> djstillman, I know I hate em, and that most of em don't *properly* support postscript.
[02:29] <quacker> =P
[02:29] <djstillman> I am having problems getting good print quality out of my laserjet 5si with any drivers I have tried, and I can't get advanced features, either...
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> Shoot.  I was wondering why it seemed like my backup wasn't going anywhere.  Turns out the /home/user/.wine has links back to the root filesystem, so it was in an infinite loop!
[02:30] <quacker> vik, you didn't tell me you were attempting STD!
[02:30] <quacker> d00d!
[02:30] <quacker> Of course it won't work!
[02:30] <vik> quacker: huh?
[02:30] <docsquale> question: I just attempted to install squirrelmail from the package manager, but it wants to install apache-common as well.  I have apache2 already installed and working.  Is this going to cause a conflict?  Can I get around it?  Thanks.
[02:31] <Davey`> I wish I could get my one touch backup button to work in Ubuntu
[02:31] <johndew> Any way to find out which user was the last to modify a file?
[02:31] <vik> quacker: what is STD?
[02:31] <quacker> "Attempting normal resume"  <-- Hibernate uses the swapfile.
[02:31] <djstillman> Sexually Transmitted Disease??
[02:31] <quacker> You have to go ALL THE WAY down to init 0
[02:31] <vik> quacker: but I didn't hibernate
[02:32] <quacker> hmmm... I wonder what that means then.
[02:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> what folder to pictures go into on the nano?
[02:32] <Toran> hey guys, how can I get my iPod to be automatically mounted when I plug it in?
[02:32] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: still here?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> just got back
[02:33] <quacker> Also, we can see that it's looking at the wrong device -- obviously it's not reading from /etc/fstab when initializing swap
[02:33] <gnomefreak> came back to run a kernel update :)
[02:33] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: my restoration-file is 10.5 GB.
[02:33] <vik> quacker: that's what I thought at first too, but I guessed that there would be some sort of sanity check/checksum before it actually tried the resume. Besides, I think resume normally happens a little earlier
[02:33] <gnomefreak> oh and to find out how much itunes wants per song :(
[02:33] <quacker> You want it to point to /dev/hda6, correct?
[02:33] <StarbuckZero> djistillman
[02:33] <StarbuckZero> Are you thre?
[02:33] <vik> quacker: yep
[02:33] <djstillman> StarbuckZero - Yes
[02:33] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: I think i'll do the recovering stuff tomorrow
[02:33] <docsquale> question: I just attempted to install squirrelmail from the package manager, but it wants to install apache-common as well.  I have apache2 already installed and working.  Is this going to cause a conflict?  Can I get around it?  Thanks.
[02:33] <Doomhammer> someone willing to help me with apache2 configuration ?
[02:33] <cafuego> docsquale: apache-common is *not* apache
[02:34] <cafuego> docsquale: So no, it won't cause a conflict.
[02:34] <Doomhammer> it's trying to open my PHP file as a PHTML file ?
[02:34] <Doomhammer> even though I'm using known-good config from another ubuntu boxen
[02:34] <gnomefreak> lol i dont blame you Seicherl  well its getting late here atleast
[02:34] <docsquale> cafuego: doesn't it work with apache v1?  does it matter that I don't have apache v1 installed?
[02:34] <Seicherl> 2:30 AM
[02:34] <nathanj> hello all
[02:34] <fangorious> anyone using the kde 3.5 packages from kubuntu.org?
[02:34] <morpheus> holaaaaaaa
[02:34] <markus-_-> hey Davey`  and gnomefreak  thanks for your help
[02:34] <gnomefreak> 8:30pm here
[02:34] <Doomhammer> also, when I do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart", it doesn't say anything at the CL
[02:34] <markus-_-> Opera works great
[02:34] <cafuego> docsquale: it works with either, by default, ehich is why it wants apache-common.
[02:35] <docsquale> cafuego: thanks.  I'll try it now.
[02:35] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, anytime im assuming you didnt add the repo?
[02:35] <Toba> how can I change the system-wide path information?
[02:35] <StarbuckZero> Do you have any ideal on what it is?
[02:35] <cafuego> There is no try.
[02:35] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: didn't expect that amount of data when i hit the key. it took about 2 or 3 hours.
[02:35] <cafuego> Toba: edit /etc/profile
[02:35] <Toba> thx
[02:35] <markus-_-> repository?
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> Doomhammer, You only get messages if it doesn't work.
[02:35] <markus-_-> well i've been using your list
[02:35] <Doomhammer> tonyyarusso: hmm, my other ubuntu server gives me messages :S
[02:35] <varsendagger> hey where can i get firefox 1.5?
[02:35] <cafuego> !ff1.5
[02:35] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:35] <markus-_-> and when i searched synaptic package manager it was there
[02:35] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, in easysource there is a opera repository
[02:36] <varsendagger> TY
[02:36] <markus-_-> i'm still kinda figuring the repository thingy out
[02:36] <gnomefreak> ok maybe you did have the repo than
[02:36] <quacker> vik, well, I'm not a POSIX or an Ubuntu expert unfortunately for you.  This looks like an issue for the devel mail lists or forums -- try searching topics like 'system migration// moving swapfile'
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> Doomhammer, Well, I suppose I could be wrong.  That just seems to be the general way command line restarts have been for me.
[02:36] <markus-_-> so what you are saying is if i add the repository ..... if there are upgrades to that program i will be notified?
[02:36] <zenlunatic> how do i make my X not leave trails when i move it?
[02:37] <vik> quacker: cool - thanks for the help
[02:37] <Doomhammer> tonyyarusso: hmm, i'm not sure... on my server (just tried it), it says Forcing reload of apache web server... [OK] 
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> markus-_-, As long as you have cron updating the database, yes.  Or you can check manually.
[02:37] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, more than likely but if you found opera in synaptic before downloading it from opera.com you already have it
[02:37] <markus-_-> i assumed i had that repository installed if synaptic package manager found it
[02:37] <quacker> And next time you might want to try formating the drive with LVM so you can add more (grow) or remove (shrink) devices from the Volume Group.
[02:37] <markus-_-> thats what i thought
[02:37] <markus-_-> i did download it from opera.com
[02:37] <markus-_-> tried to install it
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> markus-_-, With the default install that is set up.
[02:37] <markus-_-> and figured i was missing packages
[02:37] <quacker> (If you know you're going to play musical partitions, that is)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> markus-_-, if you added the repo you didnt have to download it from opera
[02:38] <markus-_-> so i uninstalled it and let the package manager do all the work
[02:38] <markus-_-> i realized that now gn0me
[02:38] <markus-_-> i mean gnomefreak
[02:38] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install opera would have worked
[02:38] <gnomefreak> lol i know i am late :(
[02:38] <markus-_-> as i said i'm just kinda starting to make sense of it all
[02:39] <fangorious> can anyone help me figure out why the sleep button on my laptops suspends instead of hibernates (as specified in /etc/acpit/events/sleepbtn, and in gnome-power-manager)?
[02:39] <markus-_-> linux has been a wonderful.... yet intense journey so far
[02:39] <markus-_-> lol
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> ntfsresize can make things bigger if need be too, right?
[02:39] <Seicherl> gnomefreak: CU around! I'll tell you if i find out something about the recover-thing.
[02:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> does anyone know how to transfer pictures to the ipod nano on ubuntu?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> FF in dapper isnt really 1.5 :(
[02:39] <gnomefreak> night Seicherl
[02:39] <cyphase> is Dapper Server going to have an easy to use web admin interface?
[02:39] <cafuego> FF in dapper is also b0rken
[02:39] <Seicherl> thanks for helping everybody!
[02:39] <cafuego> cyphase: I hope not.
[02:39] <Seicherl> good night!
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, Wish I could.  I'm having issues with power event buttons myself.
[02:39] <markus-_-> but some of the recording and editing software doesn't seem to work as well
[02:40] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> cafuego, mine isnt
[02:40] <markus-_-> in linux that is
[02:40] <cyphase> cafuego, why not?
[02:40] <gnomefreak> my updater is broken FF works ok
[02:40] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Your downloads window actually works?
[02:40] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: the annoying thing is it used to work, and I don't know what changed.
[02:40] <cafuego> cyphase: security hole
[02:40] <gnomefreak> cafuego, no that is the only thing that doesnt
[02:40] <markus-_-> okies
[02:40] <cyphase> cafuego, an optional package of course
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, Same here.
[02:40] <markus-_-> nite all
[02:40] <cyphase> not preinstalled
[02:40] <markus-_-> thanks again
[02:40] <cafuego> gnomefreak: So it sb0rken ;-)
[02:40] <cafuego> cyphase: webmin is already optional.
[02:40] <gnomefreak> i thought that was a plug-in
[02:41] <_xet> How do I apt-get aterm?
[02:41] <markus-_-> this place is like becoming my second home..... my wife thinks i'm having an affair with a girl named linux
[02:41] <markus-_-> lol
[02:41] <cyphase> cafuego, webmin is crappy
[02:41] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get aterm?
[02:41] <cyphase> for server amdin anyway
[02:41] <gnomefreak> install
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, I'll probably end up doing a fresh install, to fix that among other things I've broken.  (New to this, playing around a bit too much.)
[02:41] <Zugwrack> Hi all....hey I am running Ubuntu under VMWare  using the image they have for download off of their site...how can I see what video card is emulated and the setup so I know the specific video card settings?
[02:41] <_xet> cyphase: Thats the problem, I cant find it.
[02:41] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install <package>
[02:41] <cafuego> cyphase: Yes, but not because it's webmin. It's because it's a web interface.
[02:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> markus-_-: lol, a girl named linux arent we all
[02:41] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: did you happen to start off with ubuntu-desktop, and then add kubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <_xet> apt-cache search aterm doesnt show me anything
[02:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> is their a way to put pictures on ipod nano?
[02:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> from ubuntu
[02:41] <juliodj> need help: i cant use sudo commands and root is disable, how i can open admin utilities?
[02:42] <cafuego> Zugwrack: You need to install vmware tools and use the 'vmware' video driver.
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, No, still using just Gnome here.  I've added all kinds of other things to see what they do though.
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell CanYouHelpMePlz  about ipod
[02:42] <cafuego> CanYouHelpMePlz: Plug it in and copy them?
[02:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: it has no information, cafeugo: doesn't work it needs to be synced
[02:43] <CreatureX> juliodj: why cant you use sudo? anyone should be able to by entering user password (not root password)
[02:43] <cafuego> CanYouHelpMePlz: Oh, maybe via gtkpod then.
[02:43] <Zugwrack> cafuego: Ok..but it appears maybe the default image had something else done when created since video display is great as is...
[02:43] <_xet> Why cant I find packages such as aterm /eterm?
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> CanYouHelpMePlz, How do you put music on it?  Is there a reason that's different than pictures?
[02:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> cafuego: i use gtkpod for music but, it wont let me copy .jpg's to it
[02:43] <CreatureX> canyouhelpmeplz: plz is not a word
[02:43] <CreatureX> ;)
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> _xet, Probably don't have the right repo, or haven't updated since adding it.
[02:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> CreatureX: ...
[02:43] <cajun> i have samba installed and my computers can't view each other.  can anyone help me?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _xet about sources
[02:44] <_xet> tonyyarusso: I have updated it (apt-get update) But where can I find repos?
[02:44] <juliodj> when i use sudo, the system ask my password, i type it but notihng happens.
[02:44] <cajun> i can ping the IP addresses and PCnames just fine
[02:44] <gnomefreak> !info aterm
[02:44] <_xet> thanks
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> !tell _xet about sources
[02:44] <ubotu> aterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-11 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 280 kB
[02:44] <Sirk> Wow.
[02:44] <gnomefreak> _xet, you need to add the universe repository to your list
[02:45] <gnomefreak> or just take the # away from it
[02:45] <bluefoxicy> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZvNxB739.html  Toooooo quiet . . .
[02:49] <cajun> Following error messages:   sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[02:49] <cajun> Reading package lists... Done
[02:49] <cajun> sendmail: fatal: gethostbyname: Bad file descriptor
[02:49] <cajun> what's wrong?
[02:50] <_xet> Thanks!
[02:51] <juliodj_> i disable root account using passwd -l root and cant activate it because sudo does not work neither in terminal or with run as different user
[02:52] <juliodj_> how do i avoid my dialup connection for discconecting?
[02:54] <juliodj_> sudo has never worked in my system
[02:54] <aedes> I'm having problems browsing other smb workgroups, has anyone else had issues?
[02:55] <juliodj_> i am new to linux
[02:55] <gnomefreak> juliodj, if you are the person that installed ubuntu or were added to the sudoers list it should have worked fine with you user password
[02:56] <zazu> hi
[02:56] <Jared> what do i do after i download limewire
[02:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jared about limewire
[02:56] <Jared> ty'
[02:57] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:57] <zazu> Whats up all
[02:57] <gnomefreak> did i just read that right limewire comes in a tarball?
[02:58] <juliodj_> i install it but when using the password, is said is invalid. I even make root and ser password the same to try to fix it but nothing happens
[02:58] <Jared> how od i unpack it
[02:58] <gnomefreak> Jared, what kind of file is it?
[02:58] <Jared> rpm
[02:58] <Granis> Hello. I have problems getting ubuntu to boot with an NFS root. The nic works, it gets an IP and the NFR root information from the dhcp. I have verfied that it connect to the NFS server to the rpc service, but it still fails with the error message "NFS over TCP no available at x.x.x.x". I can manually add the NFS root if boot locally without any problems. Any ideas?
[02:58] <ilba7r> !ion
[02:58] <ubotu> ilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:58] <gnomefreak> you try like hell not to they dont have debs?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> !limewire
[02:59] <ubotu> hmm... limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[02:59] <Jared> nope they don't
[02:59] <zazu> can anyone help me install firefox 1.5?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> !tell zazu about FF1.5
[03:00] <gnomefreak> Jared, looks like you didnt get right package
[03:00] <gnomefreak> ubuntu doesnt use rpms
[03:01] <gnomefreak> that link right there gives me a zip
[03:01] <Jared> kk
[03:01] <zazu> is firefox 1.5 not good with ubuntu
[03:01] <ProNoob> omigod !!!
[03:02] <poningru> !tell zazu about firefox1.5
[03:02] <ProNoob> my system locks up completely everytime i am trying to drag and drop something !!!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <ProNoob> help plx !
[03:02] <MeeKs_> if i partition a HD how much space should i leave for ubuntu?
[03:03] <cafuego> ProNoob: Don't drag&drop stuff.
[03:03] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm trying to resize a FAT32 Partition with Gparted, how do I make sure it's not busy?
[03:03] <cafuego> MeeKs_: 2.5GB minimum. 5GB or more to comfortable run it.
[03:03] <MeeKs_> i was thinking 10
[03:03] <Kyral> Belboz99: unmount it?
[03:03] <ProNoob> no
[03:03] <ProNoob> seriously
[03:03] <ProNoob> it just freezes
[03:03] <cafuego> MeeKs_: 10 will be fine
[03:03] <MeeKs_> also would my mac be able to read and write to it?
[03:03] <ProNoob> i have to do a reboot
[03:03] <Belboz99> Kyral, did that but Gparted keeps on saying it's busy
[03:03] <ProNoob> helhelhelp !
[03:03] <Kyral> Belboz99: *shrug*
[03:04] <Kyral> Belboz99: try the LiveCD?
[03:04] <Belboz99> actually, correction on that, I'm try to "move" the partition
[03:04] <cafuego> MeeKs_: No.
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to find out the date/time of the last n logins of a user?
[03:04] <Belboz99> that's a great idea kyral
[03:04] <MeeKs_> oh
[03:04] <Belboz99> I'll do that
[03:04] <MeeKs_> thats no good then
[03:04] <cafuego> MeeKs_: Well... not to my knowledge, but I haven't looked for ext3 drivers for OSX for ages.
[03:04] <cafuego> MeeKs_: Linux will read and write hfs+ just fine, though.
[03:05] <MeeKs_> so if i networked them together
[03:05] <juliodj_> why sudo is not working for me?
[03:05] <MeeKs_> i couldnt pull stuff of ubuntu to the mac
[03:05] <cafuego> MeeKs_: Oh, via network? yeah, that will work fine.
[03:05] <MeeKs_> ok coo
[03:05] <MeeKs_> thats all i need
[03:05] <cafuego> MeeKs_: I thought you meant on the same machine :-)
[03:05] <MeeKs_> naw
[03:05] <cafuego> MeeKs_: Either via samba or using NFS.
[03:05] <Kr0ntab> heya peoples
[03:06] <MeeKs_> ok
[03:06] <MeeKs_> ok time to install
[03:06] <cafuego> MeeKs_: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/
[03:06] <MeeKs_> what will that do
[03:07] <Jared> does anyone else in here know how to do limewire
[03:07] <cafuego> MeeKs_: Allows OSX to directly access linux partitions on the same drive.
[03:07] <MeeKs_> oh ok cool
[03:07] <MeeKs_> ill save that
[03:07] <juliodj_> sudo command is not working for me neither in terminal or run at different user window
[03:07] <poningru> !rufus
[03:07] <ubotu> poningru: I haven't a clue
[03:07] <Vader> Hello folks
[03:08] <whyameye> !restricted formats
[03:08] <juliodj_> i cant open any administrative services
[03:08] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:08] <ProNoob> anyone know why my computer might freeze when trying to drag and drop ???
[03:08] <juliodj_> i cant even activate the root account back. Please HELP!
[03:09] <Some_Body> re-install ubuntu
[03:09] <moshe> how do I get mkisofs to generate a dvd-video image?
[03:09] <markive> pronoob memory issues~?
[03:09] <moshe> I keep getting an error with the -dvd-video flag
[03:09] <Some_Body> you probably deleted your root directory
[03:09] <aedes> juliodj_, try just "su"
[03:09] <ProNoob> markive, could be, but its kinda strange that it only happens when dragging something...
[03:10] <Vader> ProNoob, mine doesn't freeze but it sure does get to whereit lags....first it was my firewall, got rid of it, then it was apache, got rid of that now I am out of answers lol
[03:10] <juliodj_> i use "passwd -l root"
[03:10] <markive> pronoob could be a graphics problem
[03:10] <Some_Body> copy all your important files, put in the installation cd (or a live cd, your choice), and root will come back
[03:10] <CosmoDad> moshe: I like to use k3b for that instead of fiddling with CLI parameters..
[03:10] <ProNoob> Vader no, its a 100% lockdown, i was having normal freezes with wine before
[03:11] <moshe> CosmoDad, I'm "fiddling with CLI parameters" because k3b is unable to do this.  k3b is just a frontend.  mkisofs is refusing to create a dvd video image.
[03:11] <ProNoob> markive, yeah, i thought about something with the hardware accelerated cursor, can i turn that off ?
[03:11] <moshe> :(
[03:11] <tech> hello
[03:11] <markive> pronoob not sure how to turn it off sorry  mate
[03:11] <BlueT_> Good Morning AV8D :)
[03:11] <moshe> I could really use some help here.
[03:11] <tech> i need help
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> tech: With?
[03:12] <BlueT_> tech: yes?
[03:12] <tech> does anybody knows how to partion with the ubuntu
[03:12] <Some_Body> and never, ever run this command...what exactly is the ubuntu command for remove...Sudo rm -v /dev
[03:12] <tech> i cant seems to figure it out
[03:12] <quacker> tech, for you, I'd recommend qtpartd or partd
[03:13] <tech> hi quacker
[03:13] <juliodj_> Some_Body please, explain more about reinstalling, iam absolutely new to ubuntu
[03:13] <quacker> Or are you just installing for the first time?
[03:13] <tech> pls tell how is the command is being rin
[03:13] <tech> pls tell how is the command is being run
[03:13] <phos-phoros> did I mention how much I enjoy the simplicity of Ubuntu?
[03:13] <tech> yes
[03:13] <quacker> tech, do you have KDE or Gnome running?
[03:13] <Some_Body> allrighty
[03:13] <quacker> And don't repeat
[03:13] <Some_Body> julio, do you have an installation disk?
[03:14] <BlueT_> tech: HDD partition?
[03:14] <juliodj_> yes
[03:14] <tech> i have no idea what your taliong about
[03:14] <Some_Body> ok
[03:14] <Some_Body> enter your bios
[03:14] <Some_Body> usually done by pressing del, f10, ctrl+alt+esc, f1, f2 or any other random keys
[03:14] <tech> i dont know whats kde gnome
[03:14] <quacker> Some_Body, don't troll
[03:14] <Some_Body> ...I'm not trolling
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> tech: Desktop environments.
[03:14] <juliodj_> when rebooting?
[03:15] <phos-phoros> yes
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Yes, juliodj_.
[03:15] <quacker> Some_Body, one does not need to do anything with the BIOS to reinstall Ubuntu (unless there is a specific prblem that so indicates)
[03:16] <BlueT_> tech: $ apt-cache search gparted
[03:16] <Some_Body> oh, never had to reinstall it
[03:16] <Some_Body> didn't know...sorry
[03:16] <tech> i install ubuntu then when it comes to partitioning the hard disk, the system wont recognize the logical or the primary partition, it only recognize the one handling the system?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> What temperature should a laptop normally be at?  (output of acpi -t)  Still says ok, but wondering if I'm nearing a limit or still fine.
[03:17] <juliodj_> i think is important., my system have Ubuntu and WindowsMe
[03:17] <juliodj_> i use the advanced installation
[03:18] <gnomefreak> they are starting to implement the "graphics" in dapper :)
[03:19] <gnomefreak> add graphics but now it doesnt reboot nicely anymore lol
[03:19] <juliodj_> i get confused on the partition process. is there a way to skip the partition procedure while reinstalling?
[03:20] <BlueT_> tech: during installation time or after you installed ubuntu?
[03:20] <juliodj_> during
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> juliodj_, If you've already partioned and don't change the table it shouldn't do anything anyway.  But you'll want to specify some mount points in it.
[03:20] <grayman> Juliodj,  etter solution is to read about it
[03:21] <grayman> *better
[03:21] <gnomefreak> juliodj_, it depends why you are re-installing
[03:21] <tech> bluet_: during installation
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, juliodj_ disabled root and sudo wasn't working.
[03:22] <BlueT_> tech: on IBM laptop?
[03:22] <tech> bluet_: no. on pc.
[03:23] <grayman> juliodj_, if you dont understand a step during installation its better to read the documentation to be sure that you're doing alright
[03:23] <weasel__> Hey guys. Just installed Ubuntu for the first time, and I am wondering about Firefox 1.5.  It doesn't seem to be in any of the apt-get repositories. Only 1.0.7
[03:23] <tonyyarusso> !tell weasel__ about ff1.5
[03:24] <BlueT_> tech: it didn't recognize any partition?
[03:24] <weasel__> lol, i guess that's a FAQ.
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> wweasel, Yep.
[03:24] <Sturgeon> man
[03:25] <Sturgeon> gnome works fine
[03:25] <Sturgeon> but sometimes, it just dies and restarts
[03:25] <Sturgeon> randomly
[03:25] <Sturgeon> what could cause this?
[03:25] <BlueT_> wweasel: no Fx 1.5 package in deb pool. you have to wget the tarball.
[03:25] <aedes> bad memory
[03:25] <Sturgeon> i tested my memory, it's ok
[03:26] <Sturgeon> where cand find its logs?
[03:26] <BlueT_> Sturgeon: maybe you can $dmesg|tail to see if there's anything wrong
[03:26] <Sturgeon> BlueT_: it doesn't show anything, i already checked
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> wweasel, There are lots of things the ubotu has answers to, so you can see if the bot knows what you're looking for with !factoid, /msg ubotu factoid, ubotu tell me about factoid, and the like.  Lot's of simple things can be answered that way; very handy.
[03:27] <aedes> Sturgeon, attach gdb to it, and when it dies do a bt
[03:27] <danl> are there any reason why synaptic would open and instantly close?
[03:28] <ProNoob> yes, it doesn't like you, danl
[03:28] <danl> other than that?
[03:28] <wweasel> tonyyarusso, thanks!
[03:28] <wweasel> !factoid
[03:28] <ubotu> A list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[03:28] <Sturgeon> I looked in /var/log/messages, it says "Gconf server is not in use, shutting down." at the last time it did it
[03:29] <Sturgeon> any idea what does that mean
[03:29] <danl> is there any way i can get it to display the exit code?
[03:29] <Sturgeon> oh i found another error message in /var/log/syslog
[03:30] <Sturgeon> it says "gdm: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0" and after that the "GConf server is not in use, shutting down"
[03:31] <BlueT_> hello guys :) I'm the leader of a local ubuntu users group in taiwan (Ubuntu@TW)
[03:31] <meuserj> how stable is Dapper at this point?
[03:31] <Kyral> eh
[03:31] <BlueT_> now i have some question, and i need to talk to some OFFICIAL ubuntu member
[03:32] <Kyral> BlueT_: Present
[03:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> meuserj: Usable, "but"...
[03:32] <BlueT_> is there anyone here? @@
[03:32] <meuserj> mind you, I'm not a newbie by any stretch of the word
[03:32] <Kyral> BlueT_: I am
[03:32] <Kyral> BlueT_: Look at my cloak
[03:32] <ErikL> wine 0.9.5 seems to have been posted within the last hour...get your apt-get going.  it's not even on the winehq.org front page yet, but http://www.winehq.org/?announce=latest will give you 0.9.5 info
[03:32] <quacker> BlueT_, use the contact info on the website, and try not to be so lame -- heh
[03:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> meuserj: I've played a bit with it, and there are definitely bugs which you'll notice.
[03:33] <BlueT_> quacker: sorry...
[03:33] <tech> bluet_: heres the scenario, in windows if you make a 2 partition on a hardisk, thers a drive c:\ & drive d:\ right?, in ubuntu when i make a partition, a 40 gb hd, making it 20 gb in primary & 19 gb for logical and lastly 1gb for swap area, then installation proceed. after installation i cant see the drives that i partition, only the system drive? anybody hae an idea what i do wrong during installation?
[03:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> meuserj: But considering all the changes they're making, I think it's looking promising. :)
[03:34] <quacker> BlueT_, and you might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:34] <meuserj> PuMpErNiCkLe: cool... maybe I'll play with it a bit then...
[03:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> meuserj: Try the livecd. :)
[03:36] <meuserj> tech: in unix the partitions go on mount points
[03:36] <meuserj> so if you set up a partition for the system and for home, / is one partition, and even though /home just looks like a subdirectory of root, it is actually a different partition.
[03:37] <dfgas> how do i add a pppoe connection to network-admin?
[03:37] <jcole> is there a way to get sql access to the debian package database?
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> tech: If you didn't specify mount points during the install, hda1, hda2, etc. or sda1, sda2, etc. will be the different partitions, and you can mount them after adding them to your /etc/fstab.
[03:38] <meuserj> tech: type "df" in the command line to see what devices are mounted where.
[03:39] <CanadianSnow> hey?
[03:39] <CanadianSnow> hey???
[03:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey
[03:39] <edlang> HEY?!
[03:39] <UltimateMacUser1> hey
[03:39] <CanadianSnow> wow, wtf
[03:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> HEY!!!
[03:39] <meuserj> hey!!111one
[03:39] <jahshua> how would .rar files be opened generally  ?
[03:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> H3Y
[03:39] <CanadianSnow> srry, its lagging on my end
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> What's /dev/shm?
[03:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: Right click, select 'extract here'
[03:40] <tonyyarusso> That was kind of special, CanadianSnow.
[03:40] <jahshua> i dont have that option when i right click
[03:40] <CanadianSnow> lol thanks
[03:40] <CanadianSnow> ummm ya, i dont have a root
[03:40] <quacker> BlueT_, if you're looking for Mark Shuttleworth, he goes by asdfl I think
[03:40] <rames-dev> 'evening all ... question about changing ubuntu window manager (would like to have an alternate account running sawfish and that's about it)
[03:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *right-click on the .rar file
[03:40] <marex> anybody here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:41] <jahshua> i did
[03:41] <meuserj> umm.. yes
[03:41] <rames-dev> ...not sure where ubuntu is hiding that configuration option, can someone give me a few tips?
[03:41] <BlueT_> quacker: ooops
[03:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[03:41] <CanadianSnow> anyone tell me why setup didn't ask for root password?
[03:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odd
[03:41] <CanadianSnow> and why root doesn't even show up anywhere? :s
[03:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Does double-clicking it open it in archive manager?
[03:41] <rames-dev> CanadianSnow, probably because ubuntu uses sudoers by default
[03:41] <jahshua> no
[03:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanadianSnow: root is disabled by default.
[03:42] <rames-dev> CanadianSnow, do: "sudo bash" / your password and you'll get root
[03:42] <Kyral> ubotu: tell CanadianSnow about RootSudo
[03:42] <cafuego> Read and be enlightened.
[03:42] <CanadianSnow> ah, thanks guys
[03:42] <jahshua> it says archive type supported if i try to use archive manager
[03:42] <quacker> CanadianSnow, because Ubuntu doesn't use one by default -- you'll have to either boot to a recovery kernel or do sudo -i and then passwd if you want one
[03:42] <BlueT_> quacker: really sorry for what i did, coz i'm poor in english and i did not come to the channel very often ;'(
[03:42] <meuserj> rames-dev: the easiest way to put the commands you want to run (including the wm) in your .xinitrc and if you run the system default, it should exec that.
[03:43] <quacker> BlueT_, relax, okay.  I was the one being a little rude.
[03:43] <marex> anybody here who has yahoo id?
[03:43] <jahshua> how would .rar files be opened generally  ? archive manager isnt recognising it
[03:43] <rames-dev> meuserj, that's what i was looking for ... did "vi ~/.x<tab><tab>" and nothing came up ... iirc it's "#!/bin/sh ; exec sawfish &" ???
[03:43] <CanadianSnow> I have one lol
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: do you have unrar-free or unrar-nonfree installed?
[03:43] <CanadianSnow> but my other q/whatever
[03:43] <CanadianSnow> the windows keep going off the screen...
[03:43] <marex> i want to see hotcam
[03:43] <marex> hohas?
[03:43] <BlueT_> quacker: :p
[03:44] <jahshua> pumpernickle: i dont know
[03:44] <picasso> hey, just got ubuntu up and running on laptop, and im having a retard issue. can't figure out where the sloppy focus option is :)
[03:44] <picasso> default gnome install
[03:44] <meuserj> rames-dev: that's right except for the ampersand at then end.. if you background the only process you are running it will just exit your session immediately
[03:44] <quacker> BlueT_, /JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic (and look at kyral's hostmask; also, seveas' )
[03:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: open a terminal and type 'locate unrar | grep bin'
[03:44] <BlueT_> quacker: i'm in pm with Kyral now :p
[03:45] <jahshua> that returns nothing
[03:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: okay, you don't have it installed
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some trouble getting the syntax right for df.  I want to view things in MB, rather than GB.  I saw the -B switch in the man, but I got errors when I tried to do it.
[03:45] <picasso> anybody know how to change window focusing options?
[03:45] <rames-dev> meuserj, right ... amp's are for the preceding processes ... thanks!  been too long
[03:45] <BlueT_> quacker: but the question is nothing about .deb @@
[03:45] <meuserj> rames-dev: np
[03:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: type 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree'
[03:45] <jahshua> k
[03:45] <rames-dev> picasso, check system / pref / windows
[03:45] <CanadianSnow> .....stuff off the screen, I dont wanna b rude but who knows how/where 2 fix it?
[03:45] <picasso> heh im retard
[03:46] <wweasel> Hey guys. I am trying to upgrade Firefox to 1.5, (first time install) but I seem to have fudged it. I followed the instructions on the wiki, got the bug. I typed the workaround, but it's still dead.
[03:46] <picasso> i looked at that screen for a couple minutes and didnt see it
[03:46] <rames-dev> ;^) @ picasso
[03:46] <rames-dev> meuserj, well, i'll be in and out if i'm unluck with "exec sawfish"  ;^) ... thanks for your help!
[03:46] <picasso> <3 sloppy focus
[03:46] <picasso> ok, now to figure out my damned wireless card =\
[03:46] <meuserj> rames-dev: no problem
[03:46] <tech> meuserj: by the could u tell how to run the command line while the ubuntu is running?
[03:47] <meuserj> tech: applications -> accessories -> Terminal
[03:47] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: df --block-size=1M
[03:47] <tech> meuserj: thanks
[03:47] <meuserj> tech: np
[03:48] <wweasel> Hey guys. I am trying to upgrade Firefox to 1.5, (first time install) but I seem to have fudged it. I followed the instructions on the wiki, got the bug. I typed the workaround, but it's still dead.
[03:48] <CanadianSnow> i like the bot
[03:49] <CanadianSnow> could someone point me to where its explained maybe? please
[03:49] <jahshua> pumpernickle: i installed that
[03:49] <bimberi> ubotu tell CanadianSnow about yourself
[03:49] <rames-dev> hey again ... doesn't look like ".xinitrc" worked when logging in, looks like gnome is still wanting to come up by default
[03:50] <meuserj> rames-dev: hmmmm
[03:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: Okay, now either archive manager should recognize .rar files, or if it doesn't, you can unrar files by opening a terminal and writing 'unrar -e /path/to/file'
[03:50] <jahshua> ok
[03:50] <jahshua> its not working :/
[03:50] <jahshua> hm
[03:50] <jahshua> ill try the terminal
[03:50] <igotyofire> this place is crowded
[03:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: By default, it'll put the unrared file in your home folder.
[03:51] <jahshua> k
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> i use ... rar e filename.rar
[03:52] <wweasel> Could someone help me with Firefox? In following the instructions on the wiki page i seem to have completely killed my firefox.
[03:52] <wweasel> Trying to upgrade
[03:52] <jahshua> arghghghghg
[03:52] <jahshua> ok i really need help
[03:52] <marex> anybody here?///
[03:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: What happened? O_o
[03:52] <jahshua> what do you have to do to play .wmv files
[03:53] <jahshua> i have got all the codecs
[03:53] <jahshua> everything
[03:53] <jack|ass> So has anyone had luck with getting a bluetooth adapter to work under ubuntu?
[03:53] <jahshua> totem still wont play
[03:53] <jahshua> neither will vlc
[03:53] <tech> what is the dir command in the ubuntu command line?
[03:53] <jack|ass> jahshua: totem is ass.  Try mplayer. :)
[03:53] <jack|ass> tech: ls.
[03:53] <jahshua> ok
[03:53] <jahshua> whats the package name for mplayer
[03:53] <jack|ass> tech: although if you're using bash, dir should also work.
[03:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jack|ass: mplayer is ass.  Try VLC.  :)
[03:53] <wweasel> tech: ls is good too.
[03:54] <jahshua> i have vlc
[03:54] <jahshua> it wont play .wmv
[03:54] <jack|ass> PuMpErNiCkLe: Your momma's ass! :)
[03:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: Do you have the w32 codecs?
[03:54] <jahshua> yes
[03:54] <tech> how about change directory?
[03:54] <jack|ass> PuMpErNiCkLe: i actually haven't used VLC in a long time.  I just don't see it as a media player.
[03:54] <jack|ass> PuMpErNiCkLe: it's damn sweet for multicasting video though.
[03:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jack|ass: I prefer Totem, but VLC is the only think I can get to play .mov files.
[03:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *thing
[03:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tech: cd
[03:55] <jack|ass> PuMpErNiCkLe: really?  I never had a problem with mplayer.  Totem used to always pop up to let me know it couldn't play whatever format it tried to open in mozilla.  Until I killed it.
[03:55] <tech> how about change directory in ubuntu command line
[03:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jack|ass: I could never get mplayer to work, so I used vlc. :D
[03:55] <wweasel> Could someone help me with my upgrade to Firefox 1.5? I am having trouble. It said there was a bug on the page, and it did happen, but i can't get past it.
[03:55] <jack|ass> tech: man bash
[03:56] <jack|ass> PuMpErNiCkLe: they used to multicast dvds on fridays at work. :P
[03:56] <jahshua> ahhh
[03:56] <jahshua> mplayer worked :)
[03:56] <jahshua> still brings up an error
[03:56] <jahshua> but it works
[03:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua: w00t
[03:56] <jahshua> indeed
[03:56] <Delvien> Hey guys whats the command to reconfigure your Video card driver setting ( which driver you choose ) something like dpkg-reconfigure.. i forget
[03:56] <jahshua> w00t
[03:56] <tech> ok thanks
[03:56] <jahshua> thanks for the help
[03:57] <bimberi> !xcfg
[03:57] <ubotu> hmm... xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:57] <wweasel> Could someone help me with my upgrade to Firefox 1.5? I am having trouble. It said there was a bug on the wiki instructions page, and it did happen, but i can't get past it. Now I can't open firefox at all.
[03:57] <bimberi> Delvien: ^^^ :)
[03:57] <marex> hi delvian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:57] <rames-dev> meuserj: sorry, was afk ... did any other crazy ideas occur to you??
[03:57] <Delvien> thanks guys
[03:57] <Delvien> and girls
[03:57] <CanadianSnow> ubotu: tell everyone about yourself
[03:58] <marex> delvien, do u have yahoo id
[03:58] <rames-dev> (semi-repeat: anybody know how to change default x startup to be non-gnome (ie: sawfish?))
[03:58] <Delvien> marex yes why?
[03:58] <meuserj> rames-dev: well, its been a while since I've done this with gdm, and they seem to keep changing how it's done... it looks like putting an appropriate .desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions
[03:58] <marex> may i have delvien?
[03:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: I can try, but I only downloaded/ran it from the Moz site.
[03:58] <Delvien> marex why do you want it??
[03:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: What kind of error message are you getting, and what's the site with the instructions?
[03:59] <wweasel> well, that's pretty much what i did. I followed the instructions on the wiki exactly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:59] <rames-dev> meuserj: hrm... will check on that some...
[03:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: give me a moment to read it...
[03:59] <wweasel> pumpernickle, thanks
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> Thanks bimberi.
[04:00] <bimberi> tonyyarusso: np :)
[04:00] <plopman> alguien habla espaol tengo una duda con mi sistema ubuntu? alguien puede ayudarme?????
[04:00] <marex> delvien, have dialog with me plz
[04:00] <wweasel> pumpernickle, right at the top in the notes section it mentions the bug. i got to the point in the instructions where it says "test it. type firefox" (paraphrased)
[04:00] <meuserj> rames-dev: if that is the only way it is done, then I'm a bit disappointed... I don't see why a .desktop file is any better than just dropping a shell script in.. except maybe for translations.
[04:01] <Delvien> marex Delvien2001@yahoo.com
[04:01] <johanbr> Hi. Would anyone hazard a guess why my custom-built kernels won't boot? I'm suspecting some initrd breakage.
[04:01] <markive> nyone know how to play nokia 3gp video files with sound?
[04:01] <plopman> alguien me ayuda con mi mouse optico en ubuntu
[04:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: And you got the bug, as described?
[04:02] <rames-dev> plopman: estoy casi seguro que hay una "irc canal" que es en espanol
[04:02] <wweasel> pumpernickle, yes i did.
[04:02] <marex> hey!!!!! delvien
[04:02] <Wanderlust> hello
[04:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !es
[04:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:02] <rames-dev> plopman: no se cual ni como, pero busco algo como "ubuntu-es"
[04:02] <Wanderlust> will this machien be able to run Ubuntu decently?: http://www.accurateit.com/details.asp?iid=347
[04:02] <Wanderlust> machine*
[04:02] <Delvien> marex yes?
[04:03] <wweasel> pumpernickle, and then i typed the work around written there.
[04:03] <CanadianSnow> GAHHHHHH how do I resize windows dambit
[04:03] <Delvien> Marex do i know you?
[04:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: What happens when you try to run FireFox now?
[04:03] <marex> sure, delvien
[04:03] <wweasel> pumpernickle: but now it still does not work. i get a long list of errors. i can paste them, i know am not supposed to paste them here. where should i paste them?
[04:03] <Delvien> marex well how do you know me?
[04:04] <marex> may i have your yahoo id plz
[04:04] <Wanderlust> Would anybody be able to give some ubuntu related advice?
[04:04] <Delvien> marex Delvien2001@yahoo.com
[04:04] <CanadianSnow> me feels shunned
[04:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: In the pastebin -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[04:04] <Irvine> hhaha
[04:04] <jack|ass> so anyway, bluetoof in linux?  Anyone have insights?
[04:04] <bimberi> !bluetooth
[04:04] <ubotu> somebody said bluetooth was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[04:05] <jack|ass> bimberi: cool, thanks!
[04:05] <wweasel> pumpernickle, done.
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> !window resizing
[04:06] <ubotu> CanadianSnow: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> fuck off
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> omg
[04:06] <thedevilsjester> Ok a friend of mine has apache and apache-ssl installed, apache does php just fine, but apache-ssl just 'displays' the php files contents, anyone know why/how or have an idea what I should check?
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> Careful with the language CanadianSnow.
[04:06] <bimberi> jack|ass: np :)
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> well im gonna cry soon
[04:07] <meuserj> thedevilsjester: dpkg-reconfigure apache-ssl and be sure that the php module is set to load
[04:07] <CanadianSnow> I just wanna know how to keep the stupid windows on the screen
[04:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: got it
[04:07] <meuserj> CanadianSnow: is the window larger than your resolution?
[04:07] <thedevilsjester> ok meuserj I will tell my friend that, see if it works for him, thanks
[04:07] <jack|ass> bimberi: i had all the tools, but didn't quite know how to use them and wouldn't have guessed from the looks of it. :)
[04:07] <meuserj> thedevilsjester: np
[04:08] <CanadianSnow> probably, but i dont know how/where to change res
[04:08] <leftist> anyone know whta i can use to read a wma file in ubuntu?
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> Can scp show me an overall progress percentage?  I only see it for each individual file.
[04:08] <leftist> i'm frustrated
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> !tell leftist about restrictedformats
[04:08] <aedes> leftist, mplayer with w32codecs
[04:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Can you open synaptic and check if you have 'pango' installed?  There should be a short list of libraries that matches that name.
[04:08] <leftist> umm ok
[04:08] <leftist> damn windows
[04:10] <wweasel> pumpernickle, yes, i have libpango1.0-0 and libpango1.0-common
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> I get the feeling my scp action is going through something self-referencing.  The output folder is larger than what it was supposed to copy, and it's not done yet.
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> What sorts of things would do that?
[04:10] <CanadianSnow> uh, what
[04:11] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: if you have a symlink and it is dereferencing it, that could happen... use scp -a
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Odd, because the errors are saying it can't load it... o_O
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: locate pango | grep ".so" | grep "basic"
[04:11] <Danl_nix> whats the name of one of the websites that lets me paste stuff and link it?
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: That should return two items.
[04:11] <CanadianSnow> CanadianSnow: everyone is ignoring you
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, What's -a?  I don't see it in the man.
[04:12] <jack|ass> hrm
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> !tell Danl_nix about pastebin
[04:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanadianSnow: Everyone is ignoring you.
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> yes, i noticed
[04:12] <wweasel> pumpernickle, it returns 4. 2 in lib and 2 in lib32. the same 2 it seems. probably because i am using 64 bit kernel.
[04:12] <Danl_nix> thanks tony
[04:12] <jack|ass> bimberi: it seems to try to discover it when i hidd -search, but doesn't actually find it.  if the device isn't in discoverable, it fails, however.
[04:12] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: my bad, that's an rsync option....
[04:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Is one of them /usr/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-fc.so
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> why do you people hate me
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Oh.
[04:13] <wweasel> yes
[04:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CanadianSnow: Because it snowed here today... :(
[04:13] <wweasel> pumpernickle: yes
[04:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: *blink*
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, I might have to end up using rsync if this doesn't work.  That could be the next shot.
[04:14] <wweasel> pumpernickle: the other is /usr/lib/pango/1.4.0/modules/pango-basic-x.so
[04:14] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: are you recursively scp'ing a directory tree?
[04:14] <aedes> tonyyarusso, that's usually a better option anyway (rsync)
[04:14] <bimberi> jack|ass: sorry, i don't use bluetooth personally (just knew about the factoid)
[04:15] <Danl_nix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6633 thats what synaptic is erroring on... any ideas?
[04:15] <jack|ass> bimberi: ARGH!  Now gnome-bluetooth-manager is working how it's supposed to (and wouldn't yesterday).  :)
[04:15] <jack|ass> haha, oh well.  i'll try with that.  thanks for the factoid tho
[04:16] <wweasel> pumpernickle, so you are completely stumped?
[04:16] <bimberi> jack|ass: k :)
[04:16] <CanadianSnow> Snowed here 2
[04:16] <CanadianSnow> why is it so hard for someone to find how how to change the dambed screen resolution
[04:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84975.html
[04:17] <meuserj> CanadianSnow: system,preferences,screen resolution
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Yeah.  Trying to back up an entire disk, and finding that this isn't the best way to do it.
[04:17] <CanadianSnow> ty
[04:17] <anton_> quick what port do i use for ftp?
[04:17] <Mr_Milenko> 21
[04:17] <wweasel> pumpernickle, so it's cause i am trying to install a 32 bit archive...
[04:17] <Mr_Milenko> default port
[04:17] <anton_> ty
[04:17] <wweasel> pumpernickle, could i get a 64 bit archive?
[04:18] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: rsync is much better suited for that... use it with the -a (archive) option and it will do it's best to make an exact copy... and if you cancel it it will resume.
[04:18] <CanadianSnow> thank you for finally answer my Q
[04:18] <CanadianSnow> have fun yall, and goodnight
[04:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Does the fix posted there work, though?
[04:18] <coz> hello all
[04:18] <dirka> 64 bit ATI drivers plus wine plus WoW = not going to happen right?? its obvious but you never know......
[04:18] <Belboz99> Hey all, I'm looking to make a new partition.  Data stored there will be things like video, photos, and possibly used as an HTTP server and FTP server, is ReiserFS a good solution, would Reiser4 be better, or should I stick with ext3?
[04:18] <P8ntKid> Is fluxbox in the repos?
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, It will resume where it left off??  Sweet!
[04:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: If it does, I'd leave it like that to avoid redoing a lot of debugging. :)
[04:19] <bimberi> P8ntKid: you bet - it's in the universe repository
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Do I need rsync on both computers, or just one?  (And is it there by default?)
[04:19] <meuserj> umm... yes you do need rsync at both ends, and I don't remember if it is there by default.
[04:19] <wweasel> pumpernickle: no.
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Okay, will check.
[04:19] <P8ntKid> bimberi: Ah, that is why. I just did a fresh install of breezy and i was confused on why it wasnt there :)
[04:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: 0_0
[04:20] <plopman> kien sabe algun canal de ubuntu en espaol
[04:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Is it still the same error messages, or have we at least fixed part of it?
[04:20] <jack|ass> Woo!  Bluetoof away!
[04:20] <aedes> plopman, #ubuntu-es
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, 2.6.5-1ubuntu2 installed.  Here we go.
[04:20] <wweasel> pumpernickle: same error messages
[04:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Did you try to run firefox from the same terminal window you ran the 'fix' commands in?
[04:21] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: you might want to give it one or two v's (for verbosity) because otherwise it gives you almost no output
[04:21] <wweasel> pumpernickle: yes, i did. ran the 2 fix commands, then ran firefox. got the same errors.
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Thanks for the tip.
[04:22] <Kr0ntab> sup folks
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> Geez rm is fast.  Way more than deleting in Windows.
[04:24] <wweasel> pumpernickle, this is really weird isn't it.
[04:24] <Mr_Milenko> got ubuntu botted on an xbox.. but its b0rked
[04:24] <Mr_Milenko> :(
[04:24] <Mr_Milenko> booted*
[04:24] <Mr_Milenko> only gets to a console
[04:25] <brenner> anyone familiar with grub errors? i'm getting "error 29: disk write error" when i try and boot into xp.  breezy boots fine
[04:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: yeah
[04:25] <sethk> brenner, disk _write_ error?
[04:26] <sethk> brenner, you are sure it's from grub?
[04:26] <brenner> sethk: i'm presuming it is
[04:27] <brenner> so it's not? :-/
[04:27] <sethk> brenner, don't presume.  You should be able to tell, though.  You don't see any windows boot up on the screen, I take it?
[04:27] <sethk> brenner, I don't know, but grub doesn't try to write
[04:27] <brenner> sethk: oh ok.
[04:28] <brenner> sethk: well, when i select xp, it shows the grub entry, and then that one error line below
[04:28] <wweasel> pumpernickel: how should I proceed?
[04:29] <brenner> it then says to press any key to continue.  if i do, it goes back to grub
[04:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Do what I'm trying now.... search google and wing it ;)
[04:29] <sethk> brenner, that would appear to be coming from grub.  Let me see if grub actually does write.
[04:29] <sethk> brenner, you haven't made any configuration changes at the grub prompt, just a normal boot and select windows?
[04:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: fwiw, when I tried FF1.5, I just downloaded it, decompressed it, and ran the .bin directly from there.
[04:30] <brenner> sethk: hang on.  you were probably right the 1st time.  i tried removing grub using fixmbr off the xp cd, and i got "error loading operating system" when i rebooted
[04:30] <sethk> brenner, not a good sign
[04:31] <brenner> sethk: i've read some forum topics, and they suggest [1]  disabling bios protection or [2]  running checkdisk off the xp cd
[04:31] <zenlunatic> how can i stop the trails from occuring on my windows when i move them?
[04:31] <sethk> brenner, you can try running checkdisk.  It can't hurt.  The odds aren't good, but try it anyway
[04:32] <B1zz> i just put jre1.4 through synaptic and it broke my firefox! when i try to run it, it acts like its gonna work then it dissapears.  i run it though command prompt and it tells me segment fault!
[04:32] <sethk> brenner, not even sure what they mean about disabling bios protection
[04:32] <existance> how can I move a directory and all its contents with one command?
[04:32] <brenner> sethk: i've never run checkdisk before. :) is it equivalent to scandisk?
[04:32] <sethk> brenner, it's equivalent to unix fsck
[04:32] <brenner> existance: rm -rf <dir> (be careful though)
[04:33] <brenner> existance: whoops
[04:33] <brenner> don't do that!
[04:33] <brenner> i thought you said 'remove'
[04:33] <existance> brenner, heh didn't
[04:33] <brenner> sorry
[04:33] <brenner> sethk: oh, ok
[04:33] <SEJeff> seth_k: do you mean chkdsk?
[04:33] <sethk> SEJeff, I don't mean either one, but he probably does, yes
[04:34] <brenner> existance: isn't it the same as regular files? i.e. using v
[04:34] <brenner> *mv
[04:34] <sethk> brenner, yes, that's correct, about moving a directory
[04:34] <Toran> what is the best bittorrent client that simply installs and runs in Ubuntu?
[04:34] <existance> mm, thought it was different, let me try
[04:35] <brenner> SEJeff, sethk: yes, chkdsk sorry
[04:35] <SEJeff> brenner, thats ok.
[04:35] <existance> nope, that did it, thanks
[04:35] <brenner> why would the fs be corrupt though?  it is a fresh install of xp.
[04:35] <sethk> brenner, I don't think the file system is really corrupted
[04:35] <Sonderblade> how do you install hal from cvs?
[04:36] <sethk> brenner, I think something was deleted
[04:36] <SEJeff> brenner, the xp bootloader likely just took a shat on you
[04:36] <brenner> sethk: by the ubuntu install?
[04:36] <WizardOfFoo> how can I get an ubuntu package sync'ed with upstream?
[04:36] <sethk> brenner, I don't know
[04:36] <jrsims> HOORAY FOR UBUNTU!
[04:36] <meuserj> Sonderblade: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fHalBuildInstructions
[04:36] <brenner> SEJeff: any ideas then?  or is running chkdsk the best idea?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> Does it matter which computer I run rsync from?  Maybe the one with the faster processor?  (Laptop-Desktop pair here.)
[04:37] <SEJeff> WizardOfFoo, You mean get the upstream package on ubuntu, or sync the ubuntu package *with* upstream
[04:37] <SEJeff> brenner, You boot the computer to windows and what is the error again?
[04:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732
[04:37] <existance> where should I install programs?
[04:37] <brenner> SEJeff: "error 29: disk write error"
[04:37] <fsn> Anyone know how I would put my windows partition into GRUB? I already tried just copying the example from menu.lst but it doesn't work.
[04:37] <WizardOfFoo> ubuntu package at 1.3.4, upstream is at 1.3.5 SEJeff
[04:38] <existance> i.e. what is the accepted place to put something like Azureus
[04:38] <SEJeff> WizardOfFoo, what is the package?
[04:38] <WizardOfFoo> moin
[04:38] <fsn> Does the window partition have to be a Primary partition, because I think it's set at Logical =/.
[04:38] <Sonderblade> meuserj: thanks
[04:38] <SEJeff> WizardOfFoo, Wait for a backport (you might need to request it) once it is in dapper, or install it from source yourself
[04:39] <leftist> anyone have w32codecs installed ?
[04:39] <sethk> fsn, has to be primary, and frequently windows will barf if it isn't the first partition
[04:39] <Killadog> hi
[04:39] <SEJeff> brenner, That sounds like the disk is corrupt more than the fs...
[04:39] <jrsims> I want to be a l337 h@x0rz
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> fsn: update-grub didn't add it automatically?
[04:39] <SEJeff> brenner, chkdsk /F might help though
[04:39] <wweasel> pumpernickle, ok, i'll try that. thanks :)
[04:39] <dirka> lol man, each distro is like another planet....ok Ubuntu, how do i log onto as root, when installing i don't remember havng to set a password for that, and root+no pswd = no, and root+my user name password = no...but in users and groups it does not display root, and when i try to create it it said its already there.
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> leftist, Of course.
[04:39] <fsn> tonyyarusso, no it didnt
[04:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: :)
[04:40] <brenner> existance: if i'm installing apps by compiling or using binaries, i have a programs folder in /home/<username>, otherwise, i just use apt
[04:40] <SEJeff> brenner, /F is from memory, that might be the wrong option as I don't use windows very often. chkdsk /? will give you the options
[04:40] <wweasel> pumpernickle, i am in the process of retracing my steps and trying to follow the wiki instructions again.
[04:40] <sethk> dirka, it is already there
[04:40] <fsn> sethk, yeah i guess that's my problem. no way of somehow changing it to primary?
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> fsn: Do you know which partition it's on?  (And what menu.lst were you copying?)
[04:40] <sethk> dirka, you just need to set the root password
[04:40] <brenner> existance: it puts the stuff where it should belong e.g. executables in /usr/bin, docs in /usr/share/doc
[04:40] <metzen> dirka: sudo su
[04:40] <existance> brenner, mm, guess i can leave it there, seems messy though
[04:40] <sethk> fsn, theoretically I suppose it's possible, but I've never tried.
[04:41] <dirka> hey let me log out and try it, thanks!!
[04:41] <dirka> if not ill be back ;)
[04:41] <brenner> SEJeff: thanks for the info...i doubt the disk is faulty though.  this puter is fairly new
[04:42] <existance> how do I create a file that's linked to another (i.e. make a file that a shortcut to an executable)
[04:42] <fsn> tonyyarusso, yes it's /dev/hda5, and the default one. it has an example at the top of the file, and that's what i just copied...
[04:42] <SEJeff> brenner, I would run chkdsk. And then look for the scandisk option that does the full system check. I don't remember it. Ubuntu does not mess up windows partitions so that is very weird
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> fsn: Could you pastebin it please?
[04:43] <brenner> SEJeff: ok. thanks
[04:43] <fsn> tonyyarusso, you mean like putting it on http://pastebin.com/? Lol sorry new to this sorta.
[04:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: k - /msg me if it works
[04:45] <wweasel> pumpernickle: where would i type the dpkg command?
[04:45] <brenner> SEJeff: regarding the chkdsk option, what would i be trying to do with /F?
[04:45] <brenner> so if it's not F, i can see which one i need to use
[04:45] <fsn> tonyyarusso, http://pastebin.com/491235 if that's what you meant... the highlighted part is what I posted in from the top.
[04:45] <SEJeff> brenner, the force on reboot
[04:45] <wweasel> pumpernickle: as in, i am confused by the step where he installs it.
[04:45] <brenner> SEJeff: ok
[04:45] <makzu> Hi guys.  I have a laptop with a display that acts funky when I use the binary Nvidia drivers unless I pass a special parameter to the kernel module when it's loaded.  How do I specify this parameter in Ubuntu?
[04:45] <SEJeff> brenner, if you boot into xp and you type chkdsk it will fail and give you the option that does it
[04:46] <ubuntu_> can somone tell me how to get the ubuntu install cd into recovery mode? I used it before but I forgot what I had to type.
[04:46] <brenner> ubuntu_: rescue iirc
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> fsn: Yeah, that's fine.  See the channel info or !pastebin for the preferred pasting site.  I'll take a look.
[04:47] <ubuntu_> ahh
[04:47] <ubuntu_> proly
[04:47] <ubuntu_> only one I didnt try
[04:47] <ubuntu_> tyired recover and recovery and things like that
[04:47] <ubuntu_> thanks
[04:47] <fsn> !pastebin
[04:47] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:48] <paladinew> So how difficult is it to setup a secure tunnel using ssh from a xp box to my ubuntu box and setup a vnc session ????
[04:48] <tonyyarusso> fsn: For /dev/hda5, make the line 'root     (hd0,4)'.
[04:48] <fsn> alright, i'll try that, thanks
[04:49] <meuserj> paladinew: not hard
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Ah, much better.  And rsync tells me which directory it's dealing with too; scp just said the filename.
[04:50] <ironuckles> Can anyone recommend a good scheduler/organizer for Gnome?
[04:50] <intelikey> at
[04:50] <jeff_ii> heya.
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> ironuckles, I don't use it myself, but Evolution's said to be good for that, as well as being an e-mail client.
[04:51] <meuserj> paladinew: use putty... somewhere in the option three is ssh tunnels.. set a local port forward from 5900 on the local box to 5900 on the remote box
[04:51] <xsmogx> When you install ubuntu do you set root password or is there a default one?
[04:51] <meuserj> paladinew: then vnc to localhost
[04:51] <meuserj> paladinew: and everything will be forwarded through the tunnel.
[04:51] <meuserj> !tell xsmogx about sudo
[04:51] <ironuckles> tonyyarusso, thanks
[04:51] <jeff_ii> having issues attempting to use j2re1.5 - stuck with libc.so.6 : cannot open shared object messages.  anyone have an idea?
[04:51] <Agamotto> xsmogx:  generally, there isn't a root password as you use the SUperDO command
[04:52] <wweasel> Could someone help me? I am following the instructions on this page: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732 I am confused by Step 2, because I don't have a deb of Firefox 1.5. What do I do instead?
[04:52] <xsmogx> What's the SuperDo command?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, Are you referring to sudo, perchance?
[04:52] <wweasel> xmogx: lets you do something as root.
[04:52] <Agamotto> Yep, my own little take on sudo :)
[04:52] <intelikey> Agamotto i thought it was "Super User DO"
[04:52] <xsmogx> I tried su
[04:53] <meuserj> xsmogx: "sudo <command>"
[04:53] <meuserj> !tell xsmogx about sudo
[04:53] <intelikey> cant su without there being a password for the user you su to
[04:53] <wweasel> could someone help me with the instructions on this website? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84732
[04:53] <jeff_ii> wweasel: just did that today - get the official mozilla.com/firefox .tar.gz and drop it into a directory
[04:53] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?
[04:53] <DjKritical> anyone know how to jumpstart a usb device?... I'm remoted into this computer and I want to bring up my usb camera ;(
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> Off topic: Anyone know what a .imz file extension would be?  (IBM Rescue and Recovery partition, Windows)
[04:53] <wweasel> jeff_ii. ok. i dropped it into a directory. is that all i need to do to install it?
[04:53] <jeff_ii> wweasel> then have the script point to the newly-dropped firefox.
[04:54] <Agamotto> DjKritical:  mount /dev/sda?
[04:54] <wweasel> jeff_ii. oh, cool! perfect, thanks
[04:54] <jeff_ii> wweasel> yes, that's all. :)
[04:54] <xsmogx> so lets say I downloaded aim, I'd have to sudo before I untar?
[04:54] <psusi> tonyyarusso, my guess is a compressed image file of the main partition as it was shipped from the factory
[04:54] <Agamotto> xsmogx:  Generally, yes.  Exceptions can be made for groups and/or users
[04:55] <DjKritical> Agamotto,  mount: can't find /mnt/sda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:55] <DjKritical> oh
[04:55] <DjKritical> dev
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: How goes it?
[04:55] <xsmogx> How do I set a root password?
[04:55] <xsmogx> or is it not recommended
[04:55] <DjKritical> Agamotto, same thing with /dev/sda
[04:55] <Agamotto> Hrm
[04:55] <wweasel> jeff_ii: how do i create the script? sorry, a bit clueless at this point
[04:55] <tonyyarusso> psusi, Sounds plausible.  And would explain why they're large files.
[04:55] <wweasel> pumpernickle: almost done trying the instructions on the website you sent me.
[04:56] <intelikey> xsmogx it's not recommended.    'sudo passwd '
[04:56] <cyphase> how do you restart the dns resolver?
[04:56] <jeff_ii> wweasel> a script is just a text file.  so you can either use a text editor, or cat (eg cat > scriptname.sh, then paste contents, then hit ctrl-z).  just remember to chmod +x the text file after you've saved it.  and name it with a .sh extension.
[04:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wweasel: Cool... I hope they work.
[04:56] <BlueT_> Kyral: it seems that it's real :D
[04:56] <psusi> xsmogx, you should not need a root password
[04:56] <wweasel> jeff_ii, and how do I make it point to the directory i placed firefox in?
[04:57] <xsmogx> so what would be the command to untar 'aim-1.5.286.tgz'
[04:57] <jeff_ii> wweasel> last line of the script on the web page reads: firefox.  that's actually an executable call.  so if you replace it with /path/to/new/firefox/firefox (replace /path/to/new/firefox), it should launch the 32bit firefox
[04:58] <DjKritical> anyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?
[04:58] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> tar xvfj aim-1.5.286.tgz
[04:58] <xsmogx> do I do sudo befrore that command?
[04:59] <ara> can someone here help me with Kino here???
[04:59] <intelikey> xsmogx think of the command it's self.   sudo blah  = super user do blah
[04:59] <xsmogx> ah great, thank you.
[05:00] <jeff_ii> ara> can always try - haven't played with Kino in quite some time...
[05:01] <ara> jeff_ii: i just want to know why i can't open a .avi file? it says "this is not a DV file" and then fails to open it.
[05:01] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok, i created it in gedit, saved it to /usr/bin as firefox32.sh
[05:01] <wweasel> jeff_ii: now how do i execute it?
[05:01] <jeff_ii> ara> .avi is a container format - an avi file can be one of many things, DV (digital video) being one of them, Video for WIndows another.
[05:02] <intelikey> wweasel make it executalbe     'chmod 755 file '
[05:02] <DjKritical> anyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?
[05:02] <jeff_ii> ara> when Kino talk about avi files, I believe it is referring to DV format content hosted inside the avi format ( the other formats require libraries that can decode microsoft avi formats )
[05:02] <kestas> for some really annoying reason a WMF file I have has fine video but no sound when I use xine, yet when I use totem-gstreamer the sound plays fine but there's no video!
[05:02] <kestas> any idea how I can sort this out?
[05:02] <jeff_ii> wweasel> once it's chmod-ed, you can give it a try with ./script_name
[05:02] <jeff_ii> wweasel> if it works, you can create a launcher that points to the script
[05:03] <intelikey> kestas tried vlc ?
[05:03] <jeff_ii> kestas> totem-gstreamer doesn't make use of the 32bit libraries that xine/mplayer do, and thus cannot decode the WMV video.
[05:03] <wweasel> jeff_ii; doesn't work. i get a ton of errors. pando errors.
[05:03] <jeff_ii> kestas> have a look at xine's audio configuration.
[05:03] <ara> jeff_ii , do you know a software that can make this file a DV so Kino would be able to open it?
[05:04] <jeff_ii> wweasel> had that earlier today too.  did you copy into that script file the entire little script from the web page?
[05:04] <B1zz> earlier today i tried to install Jre for firefox when i tried my user account i just closes down.  When i run it from promp it says Segmentation fault.  When i run it from root it works fine.  Any idea whas goin on?
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> How can I configure how far each 'click' of my mouse scroll wheel moves the page?
[05:04] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> i would think that's an X-window option?>
[05:04] <MeeKs_> can someone help me paritioning a drive when im installing ubuntu
[05:04] <wweasel> jeff_ii: yes. except i replaced firefox with /opt/firefox/firefox
[05:05] <xsmogx> I just did a sudo tar xvfj aim-1.5.286.tgz (to install aim) then I used a /usr/local/bin/aim to launch it. It says there is no such file. What's the problem?
[05:05] <MeeKs_> i have a 250gb hd i want to partition to 10gb for the OS and the 240 for media and nothing else
[05:05] <MeeKs_> how do i go about this
[05:05] <intelikey> tonyyarusso in what app ?    mozilla has it's own settings on that,  and i believe nautilus do to
[05:05] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> does ls /usr/local/bin/aim list the file correctly?  is it executable?
[05:05] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?
[05:05] <xsmogx> I don't see it in the /usr/local/bin, where would it be
[05:06] <jeff_ii> wweasel> still with you -- just reading the page over.  does the file /etc/pango32/pangorc exist on your syste,?
[05:06] <wweasel> no.
[05:06] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> the tar file has expanded itself in the current directory.  you will have to move it to its final location
[05:06] <intelikey> xsmogx probably in your home dir  but why not use   'sudo apt-get install gaim '  ???
[05:07] <wweasel> jeff_ii: no. pango does exist, but not pango32/pangorc
[05:07] <meuserj> !tell xsmogx about gaim
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, intelikey: I was hoping all of them, but I'm ignorant like that.  So far I've been using it in XChat, Firefox, and gnome-terminal.
[05:07] <intelikey> xsmogx this is not slackware, tar.gz/tgz  are not installers
[05:08] <xsmogx> oh, I see
[05:08] <xsmogx> What are the installers for ubuntu
[05:08] <meuserj> xsmogx: gaim is better than aim for linux, and it should already be installed
[05:08] <intelikey> deb
[05:08] <jeff_ii> wweasel> riiighht.  seem to recall I wrote that one myself too.  let me get the link to where I found it for you...
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Do you know where I would change it if it is an X thing?
[05:08] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> you can either use synaptics or directly apt-get/dpkg from the shell
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, (Well, I suppose xorg.conf somewhere, but where in / how?)
[05:09] <intelikey> meuserj you assume a default install ^
[05:09] <xsmogx> Synaptics?
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, It's the GUI frontend to apt.
[05:09] <LathropWells> Is there an updte for      Fetchmail      ?
[05:09] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> woah.  stumper here. :)  it would have to be under input devices (I remember Dialog asking something about mouse wheel emulation at some point...) lemme see if I can find it
[05:10] <intelikey> one never knows....
[05:10] <DjKritical> anyone know how to restart/rescan usb devices?
[05:10] <jeff_ii> wweasel> got it!  look further down the original instructional web page ! :)
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, Most things can be downloaded and installed through the command line with sudo apt-get install packagename, or GUI with Synaptic, under System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager.
[05:10] <Agamotto> Meeks:  You actually need three partitions, one for / (the OS), one for swap (memory swap-out), then your third one for /media
[05:10] <jeff_ii> wweasel> there's a entry by tux61 that begins with "Sorry I forgot the pangorc file !!!!"
[05:11] <jeff_ii> DjKritical> I thought that was part of the scsi-emulation layer?
[05:11] <LathropWells> Dj - the system responsible for USB is "hotplug" isn't it?
[05:11] <Agamotto> LathropWells:  If memory serves, yes
[05:11] <DjKritical> I have no idea? :)
[05:11] <DjKritical> I just want ubuntu to recognise my usb camera again... and bring up the "image import" window...
[05:12] <DjKritical> normally I'd just unplug the cable and plug it back in again
[05:12] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok so how do i create that file. what file extension,e tc.
[05:12] <DjKritical> but I'm 1000km away using vnc
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, I found the mouse section in xorg.conf, but don't know how I would modify it.  Is there a guide to dealing with this file somewhere?
[05:12] <LathropWells> Seveas,Amaranth, bob2, cafuego, and many many others - THANK YOU! :)
[05:12] <Amaranth> ?
[05:12] <intelikey> DjKritical you could try  sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart     but i make no claim that it will actually help you.
[05:12] <Amaranth> you're welcome? :)
[05:12] <LathropWells> Amaranth - you are always here and supportive. :)
[05:13] <Amaranth> hotplug is going away in dapper
[05:13] <jeff_ii> wweasel> same trick as the script, except that it's called pangorc and lives in /etc/pango32
[05:13] <Amaranth> actually, it's already gone
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> DjKritical, Would love some guidance on using vnc, if you'd like to pm me.  Tried it out once, but got confused, and had connection refused error messages.
[05:14] <jahshua> hey how can i find out what location a program i need to use is in ??
[05:14] <intelikey> Amaranth great; means more automatic crap in the base system right....
[05:14] <DjKritical> tonyyarusso, sure
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> jahshua, locate programname often works.
[05:14] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok i did chmod 755 to it like the last one. now try firefox32 again?
[05:14] <Amaranth> intelikey: it got replaced by udevd
[05:14] <jeff_ii> jahsua> which <programname> will tell you where it is if it's in the path, if not locate <programname> will look it up on disk
[05:15] <B1zz> earlier today i tried to install Jre for firefox when i tried my user account i just closes down.  When i run it from promp it says Segmentation fault.  When i run it from root it works fine.  Any idea whas goin on?
[05:15] <intelikey> udev is in hoary
[05:15] <generalleoff> k all rescued
[05:15] <jeff_ii> wweasel> no need to chmod that one, it's not executable.  a file that ends with "rc" is typically a configuration file.  yup, trying firefox again is the next step
[05:15] <generalleoff> easy when eyr not dumb and cant guess rescue insted of recovery
[05:15] <generalleoff> ha
[05:15] <DJLILYAZI> hi everyone
[05:15] <LathropWells> pfft - intelikey's ideal base system is Tom's Root Boot Disk?  - grin
[05:15] <Amaranth> intelikey: or just udev, i'm not sure
[05:15] <wweasel> jeff_ii, woops i already chmodded it. what do i do to undo it.
[05:15] <jeff_ii> DjKritikal> actually, unplugging/replugging the usb camera should force a refresh (at the very least you should see something pop into syslog)
[05:16] <Amaranth> intelikey: basically it got replaced by something that does the same thing but better
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> i cant install linux it freezes aafter "scanning  cd-rom"
[05:16] <intelikey> Amaranth udevd is the daemon that watches udev
[05:16] <jeff_ii> wweasel> t'snot that bad if you already have, but you can revert your changes using chmod -x pangorc
[05:16] <Amaranth> intelikey: yeah, i know that
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> the whole computer just freeeeeezessssssssssssss help me please
[05:16] <Amaranth> but man pages say it uses hotplug :P
[05:16] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  gesh - you still having issues eh>
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, so yeahhhh
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, guess what now ?
[05:16] <LathropWells> What have i started?...   (covers eyes.)
[05:17] <jeff_ii> Amaranth> thought hotplug had been replaced by udev/HAL and gnome-volume-manager?
[05:17] <intelikey> well udev should work without hotplug in eariler systems too but maybe they have refined it somewhat...
[05:17] <intelikey> i hope
[05:17] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, ok so now the whle computer freezes after the part "scanning for cd-rom"
[05:17] <wweasel> jeff_ii: it works, but i still got a ton of gdk errors.
[05:17] <MeeKs_> can someone help me with partitioning in an ubuntu install
[05:17] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  this is the ubunu 5.10 install cd eh?
[05:17] <intelikey> MeeKs_ ask
[05:18] <MeeKs_> i have a 250gb hd i want to partition to 10gb for the OS and the 240 for media and nothing else
[05:18] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, yes
[05:18] <MeeKs_> i have it set up like that
[05:18] <jeff_ii> wweasel> if they are warnings and do not cause crashes, you can safely ignore them.  console output of gdk-based apps often verbosely log all warnings and asserts.  now all that's needed is to create a launcher in your panels to use that script and voila!  firefox 32bit.
[05:18] <MeeKs_> but i dont understand the /root and /home
[05:18] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, you know what i did too i tried knoppix live and it gave me disalbing IRQ#10 thats it....
[05:18] <Agamotto> MeeKs_:  I have already answered your question
[05:19] <MeeKs_> i didnt see
[05:19] <wweasel> jeff_ii: great! how do i do that :P
[05:19] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  knoppix live cd dident work either?
[05:19] <MeeKs_> ok i see
[05:19] <Agamotto> MeeKs_:  1 partition for OS, 1 for swap space, 1 for /media
[05:19] <MeeKs_> right
[05:19] <MeeKs_> but
[05:19] <P8ntKid_> can anybody help me with the w32 codecs?
[05:19] <MeeKs_> the OS one will be / root
[05:19] <MeeKs_> ?
[05:19] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, yeah it did not .. it just gave me disabling IRQ#10 and that was the end of it
[05:19] <jeff_ii> wweasel> right-click inside the panel of your choice (either top or bottom of screen) and select "Add To Panel", then "Custom Application Launcher"
[05:19] <MeeKs_> what bout the other for media
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> I got them to work fine with firefox and the mplayer plugin, but i cant get .wmv and .avi files to play in totem/mplayer outside of firefox
[05:20] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> sure
[05:20] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok
[05:20] <Agamotto> MeeKs_:  I suppose your could do / root, but as / stands for root, it would be rather redundant
[05:20] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  bummer.. this on a laptop? or desktop box.
[05:20] <wweasel> jeff_ii, what next?
[05:20] <intelikey> MeeKs_ i sujest you add one other partition for /home    the 10g for system will be mounted as   /  the root of the whole filesystem   the media partition should be mounted some place like /home/storage   or  /storage   or something like that.
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Do you know how to fix it/
[05:20] <agtnz> hey where is the bootup log (the bit that usplash usually hides)?
[05:20] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> as far as I know, totem doesn't use them.  mplayer does.
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Well, it doesnt work with mplayer either.
[05:20] <MeeKs_> ok so / for the OS /home for the media and swap
[05:20] <MeeKs_> sounds good?
[05:20] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: But, they work with the mplayerplug-in
[05:21] <Agamotto> totem is useless software
[05:21] <jeff_ii> wweasel> in the dialog that pops up, type in "Firefox 32bit" for the name, /path/to/script/script (change path and script name to match) for the command, click on Icon and choose an Icon and voila.
[05:21] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, desktop
[05:21] <imajuchi> hello every one. help me out, i m trying to set up ubuntu to do tv-out. i have a sharp television and it gives me 3 options input1, 2 , and component. Which one is the one to get the signal from the computer?
[05:21] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i know it has to do something with my BIOS i think....
[05:21] <Markbb-> mmm, seems like my machine likes the live CD, but doesn't like linux properly installed on it :S
[05:21] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> they probably do through mplayerplug-in, which uses mplayer.  so, using gmplayer, you should be able to play back those files, right?
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> What's it mean if I'm getting errors with rsync in /sys/devices, and should I even be including these?  (Their all pci*)
[05:22] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> how's mplayer misbehaving?
[05:22] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Well its not playing .wmv and .avi
[05:22] <intelikey> MeeKs_ you can use the 240g for /home if you like  but i personally would not.   i'd make one of about  2/5 g  for /home  and mount the big partition elsewhere
[05:22] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  well thers dozens of boot time options that may be helpfull.. but i got no clue what ones.. time to google for your specific pc/motherboard and linux - perhaps some forums/messages/sites may give a clue.
[05:22] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: But, the mplayerplug-in for firefox plays them fine lol
[05:23] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i alreayd google my life away loooooooooooool
[05:23] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: you should be excluding /dev, /proc, and /tmp
[05:23] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i dont know what to look for anymore ...you know what i mean
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> Alternatively, how can I make rsync just skip and forge onward on errors?
[05:23] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: check the exclude option of rsync
[05:23] <jeff_ii> P8nthKid_> i know.  it's a bit of a mess these two.  can you actually get anything from straight mplayer?
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Thanks.  I knew about /proc, but forgot what else I needed out.
[05:23] <imajuchi> does any one has tv-out working that can help me?
[05:23] <tristanmike> I'm having a problem installing Breezy. The main install went relatively ok, a tad slow, but appeared to finish without error. Upon reboot, and after the splash, it began a second phase of the install, it got to about 82% and a message popped up saying something about one of the files not installing or being corrupt and I could manually try to install it to fix it and press enter to continue, but it brought me straight to a tty1 screen
[05:23] <tristanmike> and not the desktop, anyone with any ideas?
[05:23] <jeff_ii> wweasel> how goes the battle?  can you now launch firefox32 from the panels?
[05:24] <sander> anyone know what basic package I might be missing.. when i'm compiling.. and getting: pwd.h: No such file or directory
[05:24] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  :) i got so many spare pcs i'd just install to a differnt one and swap out the hd;s
[05:24] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: No, it tells me i am missing a codec.
[05:24] <imajuchi> i follow the guide from the forum but not luck
[05:24] <intelikey> MeeKs_ you can make your whole 240g partition accessable to any given user that way and not to all users, also it is an added precaution if you awax a partition your eggs are not all in one basket.
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Wait though, this is in /sys/devices, not /dev.
[05:24] <tcpip> ntfs partitions are alrite for ubuntu?
[05:24] <tcpip> for installations i mean
[05:24] <meuserj> tonyyarusso: ah yeah.. /sys should be excluded too
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, For installing Ubuntu on, or with?
[05:25] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_> what's the exact message?  it may well be that mplayer is configured to use a video output (vo) technique that your computer does not support, and reports it as not being able to find a codec that works, as where through firefox the plugin sets the video output, and thus workds.
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> meuserj, Okay.  Time to try again.
[05:25] <intelikey> tcpip no !
[05:25] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, what do u mean ?
[05:25] <tcpip> on and with both
[05:25] <intelikey> tcpip no !
[05:25] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii:  AVI: Missing video stream!? Contact the author, it may be a bug :(
[05:25] <meuserj> tcpip: very very no
[05:25] <sander> someone said I was missing glibc.. development binaries.. what package is that in ubuntu?
[05:25] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: thats for mplayer
[05:25] <jeff_ii> tristanmike> looks like your install cd's corrupted.  you could proceed with a manual install (it may not have gotten to X and gnome yet) or try again with a new disc
[05:25] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  i often install on one pc.. then move its hd to another pc.
[05:25] <picasso> ugh
[05:25] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i can, but i when i click a link in xchat it still opens in the old 1.0.7
[05:25] <tcpip> i have all my partitions on ntfs :(
[05:26] <picasso> im trying to compile intel's kernel module for my network card, but keep getting: include/linux/etherdevice.h:67: error: previous definition of 'is_multicast_ether_addr' was here
[05:26] <intelikey> tcpip so swrink one and make free 'unpartitioned' space for the linux install.
[05:26] <imajuchi> can some one tell me if wchich entry should i use for tv-out on my tv? input 1, 2 or component thank you
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, Ubuntu can read ntfs, but it can't write to it.  So no, you can't install to ntfs; you'll have to reformat at least one partition.
[05:27] <tristanmike> jeff_ii, hmm, pressed copy, but if going manual, what should i do, just install ubuntu-desktop and see how it goes?
[05:27] <jeff_ii> wweasel> that's another story.  go to System - Preferences - Preferred Applications
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, The ntfs resizer in the installation works fine.
[05:27] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  hmm.. none o those sound like a way to get video OUT of your tv.
[05:28] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Actually, it seems that the files i have downloaded are messed up
[05:28] <tcpip> one / two ... i mean it does need swap too right
[05:28] <wweasel> jeff_ii: custom command, the same i made for my panel icon?
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, oh dam ur smart
[05:28] <jeff_ii> wweasled> *bingo*
[05:28] <imajuchi> dr willis i follow the all the steps un the ubuntu forum :( do you have any idea?
[05:28] <cyphase> does Gnome 3.0 have a release year yet?
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> but i have two notebooks and one brand new desktop
[05:28] <cyphase> :)
[05:28] <jeff_ii> P8ntKid_>  that could be a problem. :)_
[05:28] <jeff_ii> tristanmike> that's worth a shot, for sure.
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, what should i search for in google like my motherbored ?
[05:28] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  :P sounds like you may have a bad burnt cd.. or a dirty cd drive..  not sure what else to tell you
[05:28] <P8ntKid_> jeff_ii: Because i just downloaded a new one. And it works fine.
[05:29] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  yea your motherboard and chipset perhaps
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> I swear, I'll get this backup done eventually.
[05:29] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  i dont een know what you are trying to do.
[05:29] <intelikey> tcpip need is not the correct term.  swap is probably a good idea.  but your system has enough ram it probably doesn't "need" swap to function
[05:29] <Agamotto> Perhaps he should try to turn off DMA with his particular cd drive?
[05:29] <wweasel> jeff_ii, still doesn't open in the proper place.
[05:29] <imajuchi> i connected the cable to the tv but i dont know in what channel it goes, im using an svideo cable
[05:29] <jeff_ii> imajuchi> how's the tv-out signal leaving your computer?
[05:29] <xsmogx> I'm still having problems with sudo, I did a 'sudo mv ndiswrapper-1.7.tar.gz /usr/src, and it askes for the password, so I just hit enter and it brings me back onto the command prompt. Then I cd to /usr/src and it's not there, what's the issue?
[05:29] <regeya> any way to use ladspa plugins with gstreamer-based apps?
[05:29] <dr_willis> Agamotto,  i dont think the installer enables dma by default
[05:30] <imajuchi> via svideo jeff
[05:30] <Agamotto> Hmmm, it did on my system
[05:30] <intelikey> tcpip linux can use swap partitions and/or swap files
[05:30] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  my tv has a 'input' button on the remote to change the input it uses
[05:30] <tcpip> intelikey: 512 megs ddr400 enuf
[05:30] <regeya> 'coz I've got a sweet stack of fx right now in xmms that make my mediocre multimedia speakers sound sweeeeeeet
[05:30] <jeff_ii> wweasel> hmm.  must admit I'm not using xchat, but I would expect it to use gnome's preferred applications.  if you try to open a link from, let's say, Evolution (if you use it), where does it open?
[05:30] <tcpip> ?
[05:30] <jeff_ii> imajuchi> does your television manual talk about svideo input anywhere and how to get it selected?
[05:31] <imajuchi> yes, but the problem is tha mine has 3 input 1 2 and component :)
[05:31] <dr_willis> imajuchi,  so you hit input a few times and it jumps from one to the other...
[05:31] <imajuchi> thats the thing its an old tv
[05:31] <wweasel> jeff_ii, don't use evolution.
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, "Just hit enter"?  That would be why.  It asks for a password for a reason; you have to enter one.
[05:31] <imajuchi> yes
[05:31] <jeff_ii> wweasel> thunderbird? :)
[05:31] <imajuchi> but nothing happens
[05:31] <xsmogx> I thought by default there is no password for sudo
[05:32] <jeff_ii> imajuchi> are you sure that X is properly outputing through your SVideo out (from the computer, that is)?
[05:32] <wweasel> jeff_ii, no e-mail client yet. just trying to get it to work first (i haven;t used linux before)
[05:32] <imajuchi> im getting stuck there because i believe i have all the configuration right
[05:32] <intelikey> tcpip yes it will run on that without any swap.   not that the channel owners want me to recommend that you have no swap partition.    this box has 64m ram  and no swap running linux as we speak.
[05:32] <khermans> Anyone know how to rip an Audio CD using gtkpod to the iPod directly?
[05:32] <imajuchi> yes
[05:32] <Markbb-> xsmogx: you need to enter your user password when using sudo
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, You need your normal user password that you log in with.
[05:32] <wweasel> jeff_ii, trying a built in game's online help
[05:32] <tcpip> tonyyarusso: the resizer will help even when i have data on a big partition or i partition it with partition magic or something?
[05:33] <wweasel> jeff_ii, went into blackjack, clicked online help it brought me to the 1.5
[05:33] <Agamotto> Swap isn't needed, but it is very convenient when running 10 - 15 programs at once
[05:33] <jeff_ii> khermans> aren't you skipping a few steps here?  (or did gtkpod receive a cd-ripping capability recently)?  my understanding that you rip and encode to mp3 first, then transfer to ipod via gtkpod...
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, First, forget about Partition Magic.  I used it on two different computers, and both times it worked once and was no longer able to read the partition table after that.
[05:33] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, yeah i am going to do that...
[05:33] <khermans> jeff_ii, supposedly gtkpod required grip
[05:34] <jeff_ii> wweasel> did your changes to preferred applications stick?  (are they still set to custom?)
[05:34] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, what to hear something so funny ?
[05:34] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  sure.....
[05:34] <wweasel> jeff_ii, yes
[05:34] <intelikey> tcpip it is not a question of if it will run the system or not.  it is a question of will you be asking the system to open enough ram eating apps at any given time to cause the system to use all avalable ram and there by cause an app to fail.
[05:34] <jeff_ii> khermans> gtkpod doesn't seem to require grip on dapper...
[05:35] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, the highly recomanded linux for my motherbord is ubuntu
[05:35] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, loooooooooool
[05:35] <khermans> jeff_ii, im using breezy
[05:35] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, like i am going crazy here with this linux stuff...
[05:35] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  sounds like it may be a cdrom issue then
[05:35] <khermans> jeff_ii, ok if not, what is the recommended CDDA->MP3 converter?  Sound Juicer?
[05:35] <jeff_ii> khermans> according to packages.ubuntu.com, it doesn't in breeze either...
[05:35] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI, since both Ubunu and knoppix are having issues
[05:35] <tcpip> intelikey: thgt linux was pretty efficient with ram :P
[05:36] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, as the hardware problem like i need to buy a new dvd/cd writer ?
[05:36] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  could go get 'DSL' its a 50mb live cd..  as a 3rd test
[05:36] <khermans> Is there some sort of user-community software voting system?  like where people vote on what package for a task is their favorite under Linux?
[05:36] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  or go to the bookstore and get a Linux mag with a premade cd. :P
[05:36] <tcpip> tonyyarusso: windows disk management is fine?
[05:36] <jeff_ii> khermans> that's one, but last time I looked at it, configuration out of the box didn't quite give you proper mp3s (was setup for like ogg vorbis through gstreamer)
[05:36] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  as another test
[05:36] <DJLILYAZI> dr_willis, i tried suse live also it have me disabling IRQ#18
[05:36] <intelikey>  Mem usage: 13.4/61.1 MB (22%)
[05:36] <intelikey>  /exec -o sis -m
[05:36] <Agamotto> mp3 requires exteral libraries (non-free) to work under Ubuntu
[05:36] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i will reboot my computer and i will be right back.
[05:37] <jeff_ii> khermans> grip used to do the trick for me (rebuilding my desktop right now, haven't quite gotten to the "dealing with mp3s part" still fighting with kernel.
[05:37] <intelikey> that is the output of the command i just ran to check my memory ^
[05:37] <dr_willis> DJLILYAZI,  sounds like some odd hardware issue then.
[05:37] <jeff_ii> wweasel> worth a try. :)
[05:37] <tcpip> intelikey: what all apps u using?
[05:37] <jeff_ii> agamotto> makes sense.
[05:37] <GerogeW> hello my fellow linuxians, i am having some issues with mplayer the sounds is choppy. SOmebody please assist me with this issue
[05:37] <dr_willis> well - bbl
[05:37] <intelikey> nothing really just chating atm
[05:37] <intelikey> that is base system usage
[05:37] <tcpip> intelikey: u knw how to get that 'input box' for typing 'hdparam -d' during an expert installation.. i cant seem to get that
[05:38] <xsmogx> Is anyone familiar with the ndiswrapper documentation on wiki?
[05:38] <DJLILYAZI> does anyone have the motherbored 865PE neo2 ??????????????????//
[05:38] <Agamotto> GerogeW:  First, go into System -> Prefs -> Sound and turn off  the enable sound server startup... this clears up many audio problems
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, The resizer should be able to resize any partition you throw at it, it's just a question of how long it will take.  You can change things later too, for instance if you install dual-booting with Windows, and then want to steal more space from it later.
[05:38] <intelikey> tcpip no not durring install no.   preinstall  use [F1] 
[05:39] <intelikey> that is before you boot the install cd ^
[05:39] <GerogeW> thanks a million-but doesnt that turn off the startup sound and everything else?
[05:40] <intelikey> tcpip you can access the console on the installer   [alt] +[f2]   prolly not what you want tho
[05:40] <jeff_ii> GerogeW > typically stops gnome environment sounds - app launch, startup/shutdown, etc
[05:40] <Agamotto> No, common misnomer.  It keeps the system from CONSTANTLY restarting the server for new events/programs
[05:40] <tcpip> tonyarusso: data want be harmed ... right.. i mean i have set aside a 4gb fat32 for ubuntu
[05:40] <jeff_ii> agamotto> oh, does it?  my mistake, then,.
[05:41] <intelikey> tcpip can't use fat for linux
[05:41] <tcpip> intelikey: before i type expert or after
[05:41] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get the file broswer to display the address bar
[05:41] <Agamotto> jeff_ii:  It also depends a bit on your sound card... some it cuts out the Gnome sounds, others make it all behave together, according to program priority
[05:41] <davidmccabe> Hi folks.
[05:42] <tcpip> so i make an unpartitioned 4gb space? is that what u suggest ?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, Won't be harmed.  So long as you don't try to shrink it smaller than the used space.  And use one of the Linux formats for your Ubuntu partition, not FAT.
[05:42] <Agamotto> Howdy.  Welcome to our noisy bit of space
[05:42] <davidmccabe> I notice that abiword's spellchecker only knows about English English out of the box; I would like it to use American English instead. Any pointers? Thanks.
[05:42] <intelikey> tcpip you can't use fat for a linux installation     no fat no ntfs      yes unpartitioned  and the installer will make it linux native  'ext3'  when the time comes
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> tcpip, That's the initial step, then make a new partition out of that space, and install Ubuntu to that.
[05:43] <tcpip> alrite
[05:43] <nox120> Hi
[05:43] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get the file broswer to display the address bar
[05:43] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> i have an answer regarding mouse wheel in X - scrolling is actually mapped to character keys if your x.org file contains ZAxisMapping 4 5.  if not, you are using moused
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Curious though, Ubuntu can read/write fat just fine, what's the missing link preventing it from using it for its install?
[05:43] <nox120> How can i know what is the current chmod on a file? thanks
[05:44] <intelikey> PERMISSIONS
[05:44] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> as they are mapped to keypresses, I guess the amount of scrolling is then really controlled by the client application...
[05:44] <meuserj> AMCDeathKnight: ctrl-L
[05:44] <jeff_ii> nox120: ls -l
[05:44] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i'm back. when i click Get Help Online, it opens 1.5
[05:44] <sambaseeker> I have a problem that transwer files to samba server is slow. For example to copy 500mb from XP to Ubuntu server it need 20minutes. Is this normal?
[05:44] <AMCDeathKnight> Is there away to have it on all the time?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, I do indeed have ZAxisMapping  4 5.
[05:45] <cyphase> yea!
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Where did you get this answer?
[05:45] <cyphase> new mouse :D
[05:45] <intelikey> linux could not control access or execution of files if installed on fat tonyyarusso
[05:45] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> then I would guess that you are at the merci of the apps.  found it here: http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/11.04.shtm
[05:45] <cyphase> fat sucks
[05:45] <cyphase> the file system
[05:45] <nox120> THanks jeff , Now is there a command to know the permission with number for example 400,500 etc
[05:45] <cyphase> well, the body size too..
[05:45] <cyphase> lol
[05:45] <intelikey> all permissions would appear as  777   world anything.
[05:45] <meuserj> AMCDeathKnight: yes... configuration option somewhere.. not sure if they have a gui for it or if it is only in gconf.
[05:45] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> intelikey, Ah.  Duh.  See my questions previously about Windows and permissions I suppose.
[05:46] <tcpip> intelikey: when do i type 'hdparam -d' before or after i key in 'expert' during installation
[05:46] <intelikey> tcpip idk  ask someone else about that please.
[05:47] <jeff_ii> nox120> you'll have to do the conversion yourself, actually.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Not every app has configurations for that though.  Do I just have to tough it out for those, or do the 4 5 mean something along the lines of a default to use in that situation?  (Checking out the link now.)
[05:47] <jeff_ii> nox120> instructions on how to do that are located in chmod's man page
[05:47] <wweasel> jeff_ii: how can i get the proper icon back?
[05:47] <meuserj> AMCDeathKnight: /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
[05:47] <nox120> How can i know the permission numbers ? like 400 , 500 , 777 etc
[05:47] <meuserj> oh.. he's gone..
[05:47] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> i think that the 4 5 are referring to the buttons mapping, and not scrolling values....
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Uh, file not found jeff_ii.
[05:48] <meuserj> nox120: they are octal numbers
[05:48] <Slaj_R> Question... If I installed a printer driver from a deb file, then can't see it in the list when I try adding the printer, what am I doing wrong?
[05:48] <dhirsch> May I ask a question for the you ubuntu jedis?
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Ah, missing the l at the end.  We're good now.
[05:48] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> my bad. pasting error.  append an "l" to the end. :)
[05:48] <nox120> Meuserj Ok and how can i know the octal numbers from a file?
[05:48] <jeff_ii> wweasel> are you actually attempting to change the icon on the launcher in the panel that you created earlier>
[05:49] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Go ahead
[05:49] <_maydayjay_> nox120 -- goto a terminal and type man chmod
[05:49] <dhirsch> Thank you :)
[05:49] <meuserj> nox120: rxwrx-rx- = 111 110 110 = 7 5 5 - just use ls =l
[05:49] <wweasel> jeff_ii: no. the one that appears in the top left corner of the window.
[05:49] <mishari> does anyone have experience using DRBL (disless remote boot in linux) with ubuntu?
[05:49] <jeff_ii> wweasel> not sure that I entirely follow.  what happened?
[05:50] <dhirsch> I just spent the past few days setting ubuntu up on my ibook, is there a (relatively) idiot-proof way to back everything up so I never have to do this again?
[05:50] <mishari> I just want to know how well it worked.. and if it's a recommended way of doing pxe boot / nfs root
[05:50] <Agamotto> That should be ls -l
[05:50] <wweasel> jeff_ii. nothing happened new. it's just that firefox doesn't have a proper icon. it has a little application window, rather than the right world icon.
[05:51] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Yes, what hardware/media do you have available for backups?
[05:51] <meuserj> mishari: I've never done it with ubuntu, but I used to have an old sparc LX that I booted disklessly with debian.. worked real well
[05:51] <wweasel> ubotu paste
[05:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:51] <dhirsch> Agamotto, CDRs and an old usb drive
[05:51] <jeff_ii> wweasel> well, the world icon actually identifies the next release of firefox, codename "Deer Park" that ubuntu chose to use as firefox (so it's not even 1.5 that you are using, it's more like... 2)
[05:52] <Delvien> How do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location
[05:52] <mishari> meuserj: did you use the diskless package?
[05:52] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Hrm... you would be best served by just backing up your /home partition, as this will have all of your data and setting files
[05:52] <wweasel> jeff_ii. ok but how do i set any icon. right now it's just the little app box
[05:52] <Delvien> !grub
[05:52] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:52] <jeff_ii> wweasel> the other firefox (the 32 bit one) is the current firefox release.  so that the system menu icon (top-left) is probably now a function of your window theme more than anything.
[05:52] <meuserj> mishari: ah.. misunderstood your question.. I've never used the diskless package
[05:52] <Delvien> How do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location
[05:52] <dhirsch> Delvien, In gnome: it is in System tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[05:53] <wweasel> jeff_ii, ok
[05:53] <wweasel> jeff_ii, can i delete the old icon on the panel now?
[05:53] <Delvien> dhirsch i have no such location. i was just looking for the sudo gedit /~~ location
[05:53] <dhirsch> Agamotto, I would like to backup the whole system. Patching the kernel is painful ; ;
[05:54] <meuserj> mishari: I believe you mean the "lessdisks" system.. and I've never used it, but based on the packages available, it looks pretty complete...
[05:54] <jeff_ii> wweasel> you can, because you most likely won't use the 64-bit "Deer Park" release for a little while longer now
[05:54] <dhirsch> Delvien, My appologies. Are you running Gnome another WM?
[05:54] <Delvien> dhirsch gnome
[05:54] <Agamotto> dhirsch:  Easiest way is to get an external hd, and use Ghost for Linux, or somesuch to clone it
[05:54] <xsmogx> What's the name of that resource viewer for linux? It shows bandwidth, ram usage, and all that good stuff
[05:54] <dhirsch> Agamotto, Ooooh.. Ghost eh? Many thanks :)
[05:54] <Agamotto> gkrellm
[05:54] <xsmogx> ah that's it, thanks
[05:55] <wweasel> jeff_ii, i'm not using the 64 bit der park release. i just installed version 1.5, and what came with ubuntu was 1.0.7.
[05:55] <Delvien> How do i edit the boot menu , i forget the location sudo gedit / then what
[05:55] <dhirsch> I loves my gkrellm, the rubber ducky thingy ftw
[05:55] <nox120> How can i start a gui application as root ?
[05:55] <jeff_ii> Delvien> grub?  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:55] <jeff_ii> nox120> from shell, sudo <appname>
[05:56] <rhos> hello all a few probs i would like to ask you assistance in first my screen resolution is stuck at 640x480 there are no other options for screen resolution and this size does not fit my monitor at all secon is gettin frostwire to work its installed but will not load any help will be greatly appreaciated
[05:56] <Delvien> jeff_ii ah, was puting an I in list :(
[05:56] <dhirsch> Agamotto, Thank you for your help <3
[05:56] <xsmogx> do debian packages work on ubuntu?
[05:56] <nox120> jeff_ii I get error Gtk-WARNING : Cannot open display
[05:56] <mishari> meuserj: i set one up about 2 years ago.. ended up having loads of minor problems such as incomplete /dev some package did not belong there etc.
[05:56] <mishari> just wondering if it's "cleaner" now
[05:56] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> oh year.
[05:56] <wweasel> jeff_ii, thanks so much for your help. :D
[05:57] <jeff_ii> wweasel> my pleasure.
[05:57] <xsmogx> jeff-il, oh year or oh yeah?
[05:57] <jeff_ii> wweasul> eh yeah.
[05:57] <jeff_ii> xsmogx> er yearh.
[05:57] <jeff_ii> getting late.  brain confusion rising. :)
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> xsmogx, Sometimes.  It is highly suggested that you see if there is a version of the package you want in the Ubuntu archives (check http://packages.ubuntu.com/).  If yes, use that, if not, the Debian ones will probably be fine.
[05:58] <nox120> Jeff_ii I get error Cannot open display when i sudo gedit
[05:58] <jeff_ii> nox120> hmmm.  interesting.
[05:59] <jeff_ii> nox120> hang on.
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> I've seen that too sometimes when trying to run GUI apps from terminal with sudo, jeff_ii and nox120.
[05:59] <jeff_ii> nox120> try this: export DISPLAY=:0.0;sudo gedit
[06:00] <jeff_ii> tonyyarusso> used to see this a while back, thought it was now fixed...
[06:00] <Slaj_R> Can anyone help troubleshoot a printer driver problem?
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> jeff_ii, Apparently not.
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> Might want to file a bug, nox120.
[06:01] <nox120> Its not working
[06:01] <coz> Slaj_R what printer do you have
[06:01] <nox120> Can i start an app as another user , not from a console
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> nox120, Yes, one moment.
[06:01] <Slaj_R> Dell AIO 962
[06:01] <coz> Hold on I will check about this
[06:01] <Slaj_R> I tried installing the appropriate Lexmark driver, but no dice.
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> nox120, Applications > System > Run as different user (if you're in Gnome).
[06:02] <nox120> Unbuntu rox!!
[06:02] <nox120> THanks tonyy
[06:02] <jeff_ii> welp, that'll be all for me.  gnight folks.
[06:03] <coz> Slaj_R here's one solution  http://www.finebushpeople.net/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=65&Itemid=98/
[06:03] <coz> Hold on
[06:03] <coz> Lexmark sonetimes makes dell printers so these drivers may work
[06:03] <computinchuck> what's the support for mp4/aac files like on ubuntu?
[06:03] <computinchuck> is there a way to rip a cd to that format?
[06:03] <intelikey> well guys i enjoy chating here in #ubuntu and helping what little i can, but in all fairness to truth it's self; i feel that i can no longer support a distro that i really dislike.   so peace to all of you and good bye.
[06:04] <S> lllllllllllllll
[06:04] <S> hoi ono wong ora????????????
[06:04] <coz> Slaj_R Lexmark manufatures dell printer so these drivers may work
[06:04] <Slaj_R> coz: Thanks.  I'll check it out.
[06:04] <viscount> any ruby users? Using Breezy and getting a readline errno even though libreadline-ruby libreadline4 libreadline5 are all installed, `irb>name = gets` fails with Errno:::ENOENT: No such file or directory - --readline
[06:04] <Agamotto> S:  Boku wa dare?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> computinchuck, Works fine for me.  Those are probably restricted formats though (? Confirm anyone ?), in which case you'll need to get codecs.
[06:05] <coz> Slaj_R also this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77817
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> computinchuck, Never tried the ripping thing though, just playing.
[06:05] <computinchuck> tonyyarusso, ah, ok.  i'm trying to build up a collection for my ipod and i know the aac format offers the best compression and sound quality...
[06:06] <viscount> Otherwise ruby works properly, its a strange error.
[06:06] <computinchuck> i've been using mp3 w/ variable bitrate and it gives pretty big files
[06:06] <viscount> I've even complied a few ruby-gtk apps and they work fine
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> computinchuck, Ah.  I listen to a online radio station stream in aac.  Check out !restrictedformats and !ipod if you haven't already.
[06:06] <Slaj_R> coz: I tried following the process in the second link you gave me.  I encountered the same trouble as arunsub.
[06:06] <Agamotto> computinchuck:  No one doubts that, but we would rather have a format/codec that doesn't restrict what devices we put our files on
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Agamotto, Do iPods care what format stuff is in?
[06:07] <Agamotto> No, but my car does
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> Agamotto, Your car?
[06:09] <rat_hack> hey
[06:09] <computinchuck> Agamotto, i have an ipod that does play aacs and i'd like to take advantage of it
[06:09] <rat_hack> has anyone got tor working on ubuntu ?
[06:09] <Agamotto> I don't have inputs for a iPod, and would rather just make cds out of the files
[06:10] <Agamotto> To each their own
[06:10] <Agamotto> What, praytell is 'tor?'
[06:10] <rat_hack> proxy
[06:10] <rat_hack> http://tor.eff.org/
[06:10] <rat_hack> its pretty interesting
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> "anonymizing overlay network for TCP"
[06:10] <Artemis3> thank goodnes for tor, someone at clamav.net decided to blacklist my country...
[06:11] <rat_hack> lol that sucks
[06:11] <rat_hack> hey art how did you get it working on ubuntu
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Artemis3, What?
[06:11] <Artemis3> what you read
[06:11] <ilba7r> !openssh-server
[06:11] <ubotu> ilba7r: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:11] <ilba7r> !info openssh-server
[06:11] <Artemis3> i just confirmed after reading various reports on clamwin forums
[06:12] <rat_hack> their articals about tor and ubuntu their ?
[06:12] <Artemis3> no updates working seemed suspicious...
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> Artemis3, As in you can't do what?  Communications from you get blocked by people running it?
[06:13] <Artemis3> cant reach clamav.net
[06:14] <Artemis3> dont worry, i used tor to bypass and worked
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Artemis3, Interesting.
[06:14] <rat_hack> Artemis3 did you install tor on ubuntu ?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Can I make a line specify a section on a repo?  I want to get something from 'sound' in universe, but don't want to load the whole universe database (slow connection).
[06:16] <rat_hack> =\
[06:17] <nox120> Where is the apache2 website folder
[06:17] <nox120> ?
[06:17] <Slaj_R> coz:  I installed two new drivers, but they don't show up in the "Add a Printer" driver selection list.  Where do I find the drivers?
[06:18] <dissolutions> server irc.governmentsecurity.org
[06:18] <Kyral> ...
[06:18] <rat_hack> ...
[06:18] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso: no.
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> Fujitsu, Okay.  Oh well.
[06:18] <Fujitsu> nox120: /var/www
[06:19] <Fujitsu> Ahh. It feels good to be back. I haven't been here in a couple of weeks...
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> That would be a nice feature, btw.  Low demand though, I'm sure, so probably not going to happen.
[06:20] <coz> Ok there is a screen ruler at iconico.com that is really great but they have had only one person write them to create a linux version, and i was that one person.
[06:20] <Fujitsu> It would require a complete redesign of the APT system.
[06:20] <coz> write these people to get this great screen ruler onboard ubuntu
[06:22] <Fujitsu> coz, it isn't free, is it?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Can I make a looping thing on the command line saying "run this, and then do it again every 5 minutes", or would I have to set up cron for it?  (It would be temporary.)
[06:24] <Fujitsu> Yes.
[06:24] <sethk> tonyyarusso, you can loop, you can use at, you can use cron, lots of ways
[06:24] <Fujitsu> You can write a bash script with a loop containing the command and 'sleep 300'
[06:26] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: watch
[06:27] <CarlFK> sethk, Fujitsu - man watch too ;)
[06:27] <KingTiger> hello
[06:27] <sethk> CarlFK, that's sort of backhanded, but I guess it works
[06:27] <michael__> k, close to fixing my problem - I'm logged in as a user i created for somebody else. I know what I've always used as my root password, but it's not allowing me to log in as root from this account. I'm assuning that this account just isn't allowed to have root priveleges, so... If I log into a terminal my account then root w/ Ctrl+Alt+F1, how can I et this account to be able to use root?
[06:28] <CarlFK> sethk: how so?  seems watch is exactly what is needed
[06:28] <michael__> I figure I edited a file in a bad way thats causing my error on log-in, so I'm just going to create a new account for myself
[06:28] <sethk> CarlFK, the purpose of watch is just that, to watch something.  Not to do something periodically.
[06:29] <E7h3rN37> i was wondering if the intel x86 distro will run on an AMD64 CPU?
[06:29] <Fujitsu> Yes, it will.
[06:29] <CarlFK> michael__: "log in as root" or "do something as root" ?
[06:29] <E7h3rN37> and it will have the architectur support that the 64bit version doesnt?
[06:29] <michael__> i was to add pam to the sudoers account - where is it at?
[06:29] <E7h3rN37> like flash
[06:29] <Agamotto> Time to rest, I am starting to nod off
[06:30] <mike_> wow, this is my first time in IRC
[06:30] <CarlFK> michael__: /etc/sudoers
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> Thanks CarlFK.
[06:30] <Fujitsu> mike_ welcome.
[06:30] <CarlFK> michael__: but I think there is 'right way' to edit that
[06:30] <mike_> thank you
[06:30] <michael__> how is that?
[06:30] <michael__> i have it open in nano right now
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> seth_k, Fujitsu: I'd bother to make a script if I was planning on doing it much, but his is really just for today.
[06:31] <sethk> michael__, you use visudo
[06:31] <mike_> I can't get my Ubuntu box to print to my Canon Pixma printer.  I guess that's to be expected?
[06:31] <sethk> michael__, that's why there is a comment at the beginning of the file saying DON'T EDIT THIS
[06:31] <CarlFK> visudo
[06:32] <Johnny0> Evening all
[06:32] <nox120> tar -zxvf /../../home/nox120/Desktop/Downloads/phpMyAdmin-2.7.0-pl2.zip
[06:32] <nox120> gzip: stdin has more than one entry--rest ignored
[06:32] <nox120> .
[06:32] <nox120> Anyone can help?
[06:32] <michael__> visudo just opens the file in nano
[06:32] <Johnny0> Anyone know how I can use Firefox to play www.launch.com ?
[06:32] <Johnny0> They both require IE
[06:33] <Granis> How much time should I expect a compilation of the kernel 2.6.12-9 to take on a P4 3GHz with 512MN RAM, approximatly?
[06:33] <Johnny0> xm-radio and launch.com
[06:33] <CarlFK> what java package do I need to apt-get to run Azureus ?
[06:34] <CarlFK> Granis: 20 min (wag)
[06:34] <Kyral> ubotu: tell CarlFK about SunJava
[06:34] <michael__> can't I just add a comment then pam ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:34] <Granis> CarlFK Ok thanks, then i wont go to sleep quite yet :)
[06:34] <mike_> You can listen to Chaotic Lifestyles Radio using Ubuntu (www.chaoticlifestyles.com)
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> Is this a valid way to say this option for rsync?: --exclude="proc,dev,sys,tmp"
[06:35] <Johnny0> mike - Im wanting to listen to my xm-radio account
[06:35] <sethk> michael__, sure you can.  you shouldn't, but you can
[06:35] <madewokherd> Johnny0: what format do they use?
[06:36] <nox120> What would be the good Chmod permission for my /var/www folder?
[06:36] <CarlFK> nox120: 000 is safest ;)
[06:36] <Fujitsu> nox120: as it is?
[06:36] <Johnny0> windows media player
[06:37] <billytwowilly> doesn't 000 stop even root from doing anything to the file?
[06:37] <michael__> i typed man visudo and got into the file - how do i close out of viewing it?
[06:37] <Johnny0> would this be the plugin for netscape I am needing ?
[06:37] <CarlFK> billytwowilly: right.  can't get much safer than that
[06:37] <madewokherd> uh, you're using linux, right?
[06:38] <sethk> michael__, the man page you mean?  q
[06:38] <michael__> ty
[06:38] <nox120> Fujitsu i want to set it to 010 so i can set all files , then swittch it to default
[06:38] <billytwowilly> CarlFK, lol. I was just making sure. I haven't done file permissions in a long time;)
[06:38] <freelove> help me!
[06:38] <Johnny0> Im using ubuntu - yes
[06:38] <CarlFK> michael__: :q<enter>
[06:38] <nox120> What is default chmod for /var/www folder
[06:38] <madewokherd> Johnny0: then presumably it's covered somewhere in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats :/
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> billytwowilly, Root could still chmod it later though.
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> (Right?)
[06:38] <tech> is there anyone knows how to set the monitor not to automatic shut off while at standby?
[06:38] <CarlFK> michael__: thats 3 keys - collen q enter
[06:38] <freelove> i upgraded an app with synaptic........now i want old one back.......how do i do this?
[06:39] <Fujitsu> tonyyarusso: Of course.
[06:39] <Johnny0> madewokherd: Im new to the ubuntu world
[06:39] <Fujitsu> freelove: Why?
[06:39] <Johnny0> if I had hours to read and resolve every issue Im having - I wouldn't be here :)
[06:39] <freelove> Fujitsu: for some reason......plz just tell me how to downgrade the ap with synaptic??
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> Okay, I give up.  man rsync just isn't doing it for me to understand syntax.  How do I exclude multiple subdirectories of what I'm doing with rsync -a?
[06:39] <madewokherd> I think you want The Codecs section
[06:39] <michael__> damn, still not working
[06:40] <Fujitsu> freelove: On one of the menus is a 'Force version' option.
[06:40] <madewokherd> where it gives you a package to download and install
[06:40] <michael__> how can i add a user to the admin group via term
[06:40] <madewokherd> and the the mozilla plugin for mplayer
[06:40] <sethk> michael__, usermod
[06:40] <madewokherd> which is called mozilla-mplayer
[06:40] <michael__> ty
[06:40] <madewokherd> I *think* that should cover it :/
[06:40] <freelove> Fujitsu: but its not black.....i mean its faded......i cant click there!
[06:41] <Fujitsu> Have you got the package selected?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> It doesn't seem to like what I'm trying, so if anyone could give an example multi-directory exclude option to pass to rsync that would be great.
[06:41] <Johnny0> looking now madewokherd
[06:42] <michael__> damn, do i need to log out to reset my privs?
[06:42] <CarlFK> michael__: no
[06:42] <michael__> it's not working
[06:42] <freelove> Fujitsu: yes ive got it selected still dont get that option......
[06:43] <SenayB0x0r> hey, does ubuntu automatically mount a newly added hard disk?
[06:43] <CarlFK> michael__: make it work ;)
[06:43] <Fujitsu> freelove: Very odd.
[06:43] <sethk> SenayB0x0r, no
[06:43] <SenayB0x0r> bummer
[06:43] <SenayB0x0r> so how would i go about doing so...
[06:43] <borisattva> hello please
[06:43] <michael__> :'(
[06:43] <CarlFK> michael__: you can use the su command to switch user to the user that currently does have sudo privs, and fix things that way
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> I need to exclude /proc, /dev, /sys, and /tmp from rsync -av  /  192.168.1.10:/tonybackup/, and I can't figure out how to work the exclude option.
[06:44] <sri> hey daniel_s !
[06:44] <christs> Hey guys
[06:45] <michael__> i've been trying to make this account have sudo privs so that i can add an account - because the one that does have su privs won't work - i screwed it up
[06:45] <CarlFK> Kyral:  what java package is top of the list for dapper users?  as in, which one should I bother trying and sending off bug reports if it doesn't work?
[06:45] <christs> Anyone know how to mount a usb flash drive in Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:45] <Linuturk> what benefits does the install DVD have over the install CD?
[06:45] <thread> I'm wondering why I can't mount this external drive... and also it's not appearing to partition for the full 200Gb capacity... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111678
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> christs, Plug it in works for me, so if you're having issues, no.
[06:46] <christs> :(
[06:46] <daniel_s> im trying to use ndiswrapper and the 'modprobe' step cannot find the kernel module
[06:46] <freelove> how do i downgrade an app with apt?
[06:46] <borisattva> is there any negative sides to installing Kubuntu packages into a stable version of Ubuntu?
[06:46] <Linuturk> what benefits does the install DVD have over the install CD?
[06:46] <Johnny0> oh jeez
[06:47] <Johnny0> asking for a CD to install Rythymbox with synaptic !
[06:47] <Christs_servant> Linuturk, It can store more data
[06:47] <michael__> i opened a terminal - how can i log in as a dif user (like using sudo -s, but not for root)
[06:47] <raghu> Linuturk, more packages
[06:47] <Christs_servant> So you could have 1 dvd instead of 4 cds
[06:47] <freelove> how do i downgrade an app with apt?
[06:47] <borisattva> linu: dvd dobles as a live which make sit perfect for previews, but a down side is that not all pc's dvd drive are able to boot from it.. found that out the hard way
[06:48] <Linuturk> is there a list of those packages?
[06:48] <raghu> freelove, apt-get install appname
[06:48] <michael__> i want to run a term window as my installed user, then use that to login as su
[06:48] <nox120> I dont have php4 when i do apt-get install php4 , how can i get more sources??
[06:49] <freelove> raghu: i meant how do i downgrade it?
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> freelove, See if man apt-get says something about forcing version.
[06:49] <raghu> freelove, you me remove?
[06:49] <Linuturk> is there a list of those packages?
[06:50] <freelove> raghu: no......install an older version......
[06:51] <CarlFK> michael__: su -
[06:51] <raghu> freelove, not preffered
[06:51] <borisattva> linu: if there is it would be on the website, so i guess no. i would think that the package list is the same as from dvd but the 'live' version of apps requires the additional space
[06:51] <Linuturk> raghu, is there a list of those packages
[06:51] <CarlFK> grrr
[06:51] <dotchad> what do i need to watch wmv files on ubuntu?
[06:51] <rat_hack> can anyone help me get tor working ?
[06:51] <nox120> I dont have Php4 on my apt-get , how can i fix this ???
[06:51] <rat_hack> i'm getting errors
[06:51] <rat_hack> =\
[06:52] <raghu> Linuturk, you to check in ubuntu site
[06:52] <Kyral> ubotu: tell nox120 about repos
[06:52] <nox120> !easysource
[06:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:52] <michael__> k, i think i can do this now - what is the program that edits users(graphically)
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> !tell dotchad about restrictedformats
[06:53] <sampan> how do i reformat/repartition a HD that is connected via USB?
[06:53] <dotchad> ?
[06:54] <Linuturk> raghu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=DVD+contents&titlesearch=Titles
[06:54] <sethk> sampan, the same way as any other drive connection
[06:55] <quacker> cfdisk /dev/usb0  (for the first USB dev)
[06:55] <quacker> i.e the first partition
[06:55] <sampan> sethk  hrmmmm ... i can't see any GUI tool to do that ... so i'm kinda looking for a cli hint (and i've never done partitioning/formatting via cli)
[06:55] <quacker> If you need to find USB buses, use lsusb
[06:56] <sampan> quacker  what if there are currently 5 partitions and i want to delete all but 2?
[06:56] <sethk> sampan, you partition with fdisk, and you format with mkfs
[06:56] <quacker> man cfdisk
[06:56] <sampan> k -- i shall do teh reading :)
[06:56] <CaptainMorgan> the ?
[06:56] <quacker> also, gparted or qtparted can 'automate' many tasks if you have them installed
[06:57] <CaptainMorgan> t eh ?
[06:57] <quacker> I believe that one or the other of them default installs with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[06:57] <quacker> Oh great, another grammar/spelling Nazi
[06:57] <quacker> =P
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> no exactly :/
[06:58] <Linuturk> can anyone point me to the contents of the ubuntu install DVD's? I've searched the wiki and forums with no results.
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> t e h in xchat is corrected automatically with the.. weird
[06:58] <freelove> ive installed w32codecs.......but kaffeine cant play rm files.....says "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so.6.0"
[06:59] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: its for the people like me that suck at speel typing :)
[06:59] <quacker> Linuturk, what do you mean?  Please rephrase your question.
[06:59] <CarlFK> as long as there is a lul...
[06:59] <quacker> CaptainMorgan, that's a rummy thing to do -- aarrrghh
[06:59] <Linuturk> quacker, I need to know what packages are on the DVD to see if it will help me with my problem
[07:00] <CarlFK> for those of you that duel boot, http://www.fs-driver.org "provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."
[07:00] <quacker> Linuturk, have you got Ubuntu installed?
[07:00] <freelove> ive installed w32codecs.......but kaffeine cant play rm files.....says "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so.6.0"
[07:00] <eXcentra> So I just got the new kernel and when I boot up Ubuntu, it shows the boot screen thing but it shows up as xubuntu
[07:00] <quacker> freelove, kaffeine-xine or kaffeine-gstreamer ?
[07:00] <emachine_> freelove, you need mplayer
[07:00] <Linuturk> quacker, no, i don't. I've got to use ndiswrapper-utils for my wireless before I can get net access with linux
[07:00] <eXcentra> it doesn't bother me, but how do i change it to normal ubuntu?
[07:01] <freelove> quacker: kaffeine-xine
[07:01] <emachine_> freelove, and why kaffeine?
[07:01] <Linuturk> quacker, so, I've got to see if that package is on the DVD
[07:01] <freelove> emachine_: mplayer is installed
[07:01] <Davey`> eXcentra: hehe, mine shows up as Kubuntu :/
[07:01] <eXcentra> lol :|
[07:01] <freelove> emachine_: amarok and xine also give same error
[07:01] <Sturgeon> freelove: do mplayer and totem play those files?
[07:01] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: click Settings > Advanced > Auto replace. you can set other common mistypes in there or remove the 'teh' replacer
[07:01] <emachine_> freelove, do you have the mplayer plugin installed?
[07:01] <freelove> emachine_: yes
[07:01] <freelove> Sturgeon: lemme se.....
[07:02] <emachine_> freelove, and how are you trying to play rm files?
[07:02] <quacker> Linuturk, it should autorun so you can browse it under window, but you'll h ave to know the specific filesnames of the packages you are looking for.
[07:02] <quacker> Otherwise you're stuck searching Ubuntu.Com as per usual
[07:02] <CaptainMorgan> lol Toma-  why do I have that as the only term in listed?
[07:02] <CaptainMorgan> weird
[07:03] <freelove> Sturgeon: yes mplayer plays it
[07:03] <Ripper> i need help
[07:03] <Linuturk> quacker, I haven't downloaded it yet. I want to make sure it's worth the several hours it's going to take to download. and, I've searched ubuntu.com
[07:03] <Sturgeon> then use mplayer
[07:03] <quacker> What pkgs do you want -- maybe I know if they're there
[07:03] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: just to demonstrate what it can do i guess
[07:03] <Linuturk> quacker, ndiswrapper-utils
[07:03] <cafuego> quacker: Ever tried 'apt-file' ?
[07:03] <Ripper> how do i set up my wireless card ?
[07:03] <Toma-> CaptainMorgan: if anyone else uses xchat in your family, try replace "asl" with something silly :P
[07:03] <quacker> Linuturk, just bite the bullet
[07:03] <quacker> cafuego, he doesn't have Linux installed -- duhhh.
[07:04] <cafuego> quacker: Joyful.
[07:04] <freelove> mplayer plays the rm files but xine cant
[07:04] <Linuturk> quacker, I could, or I could just go to work Friday and use the LAN. I'd rather not spend my time at work though
[07:04] <sas171> hi, while shut down my kubuntu stops at the dns shut down. on the other terminal there is a message, something like: dbus_shutdown() was sen but the connections still alive. Ho can I fix it?
[07:04] <Davey`> I find Helix Player plays my Realplayer stuff just fine :)
[07:04] <SenayB0x0r> whats the best way to add a new HD in ubuntu?
[07:05] <Davey`> sas171: dbus and DNS do not have anything to do with each other...
[07:05] <Toma-> SenayB0x0r: stick it in, boot it up, and use it
[07:05] <Ripper> i need help
[07:05] <Ripper> someone msg me
[07:05] <Ripper> please
[07:05] <quacker> Linuturk, the DVD is 2.8 Billion bytes and the rest of the available packages are on repositories or CVS.
[07:05] <sampan> sethk and quacker thanks for the help -- qtparted made quick work of that -- i guess i didn't have it or gparted installed ... anyway, it's done -- thanks :)
[07:06] <sas171> Davey`: hm, the deal is, the last message on the screen is: Stopping dynamic network services... i think
[07:06] <quacker> Ubuntu has about 17k pkgs including multiverse and universe repos
[07:06] <quacker> (Debian has 15k+)
[07:06] <quacker> sampan, you're very welcome
[07:06] <Linuturk> quacker, I won't have internet access until my wireless is working. so I don't have access to those repositories unless the ndiswrapper-utils package is on that DVD
[07:08] <quacker> Linuturk, why don't you just d/l the ndiswrapper source while you're dling the Breezy ISO -- then youknow you have it for sure.  I'll check my apt-cache too for you.
[07:08] <quacker> Bets that it's there -- in the base section?
[07:08] <Linuturk> quacker, because I have no idea how to compile it, and that leaves tons of room for error on my part
[07:09] <Myrtti> I'm definitely too tired
[07:10] <Myrtti> besides if he downloads the source, he'll need build-essential and lots of other stuff too
[07:10] <quacker> cd [targetdir] ; wget [pkg]  && tar xvf [pkg] ; ./configure; make; make install
[07:10] <Lews> Are there any guides to installing Ubuntu from the LiveCD? I would like to replace an existing Linux installation with it, but don't want to download an install CD
[07:10] <quacker> same aws anything esle
[07:11] <Myrtti> more coffee
[07:11] <Fujitsu> ndiswrapper-utils is on the CD.
[07:11] <quacker> Linuturk, can't you just the darn thing inwhile installing so you can pull your Broadcom gak (or whatever) directly off the repos on t3h Intarweb?
[07:12] <quacker> errr, 'plug the darn thing in', that is?
[07:12] <Linuturk> my wireless is provided by my apartment complex; no ethernet plug in. I'm not a moron
[07:12] <quacker> Ahh, Fujitsu-san, you're usefull piece of kit, you are
[07:13] <quacker> Linuturk, I meant at work -- you said you were going to go there anyhow
[07:13] <Linuturk> not until friday, and I'd like to have it ready to show off
[07:13] <quacker> Linuturk, did you catch what he said?
[07:13] <Linuturk> yes, i did
[07:13] <Linuturk> is dapper on Flight 2?
[07:13] <Toma-> Linuturk: yes
[07:13] <Linuturk> i'm trying out dapper
[07:14] <quacker> You want to show off Dapper, heh.  Well why didn't you *say* so.  Get that Wifi up and tell us, where does the community SSH in?
[07:15] <quacker> =oD
[07:15] <Linuturk> har
[07:15] <Linuturk> :-P
[07:15] <Fujitsu> Heheh
[07:15] <Sixth|579> how do I setup my 3D settings? (trying to setup cedega) do I have to download and install specific drivers for my card? (ATi All-in-Wonder Radeon 9800)
[07:15] <Fujitsu> I am going to grab Flight 2 in the next few days...
[07:15] <Ripper> i need help someone please msg me
[07:15] <quacker> Sixth|579, they're included
[07:15] <Linuturk> ha, 4 seeds for the dapper amd version
[07:15] <Myrtti> *sniffff* I smell testosterone
[07:15] <neighborlee> anyone know where ubuntu might be saving screen dumps after having pressed printscreen ?
[07:15] <quacker> Just installed on a customer's laptop.
[07:15] <Myrtti> Desktop
[07:16] <sethk> neighborlee, I believe it is in the directory tree at $HOME/.gnome2
[07:16] <Myrtti> unless chosen otherwise
[07:16] <quacker> *snorrrrt* I smell estrogen
[07:16] <Myrtti> *kiss*
[07:16] <polpak> Sixth|579: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[07:16] <Linuturk> I smell penguin fleas
[07:16] <quacker> *hug*
[07:16] <neighborlee> sethk; ok
[07:16] <neighborlee> thx
[07:16] <quacker> Penguins don't have fleas -- that's a window thing
[07:17] <Myrtti> I wonder where I've lost my #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:17] <Sixth|579> polpak, thank you, ill try that
[07:17] <quacker> Antarctica is too cold for flea eggs to ever hatch
[07:17] <quacker> Sixth|579, Linux should autodetect that ATI chipset
[07:18] <quacker> The FireGL drivers might not work but 2D works fine
[07:18] <polpak> quacker: it will work, but to get good 3d acceleration you need the FireGL drivers
[07:18] <polpak> quacker: since he's trying to use Cedega he'll want the drivers
[07:18] <quacker> heh, what I said polpak
[07:19] <neighborlee> sethk; nope that wasn't it ;(
[07:19] <freelove> YIPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I transferred contents of /usr/lib/real to win32 and now it works!!
[07:19] <MagicFab> hello
[07:19] <Fujitsu> Hi.
[07:19] <ysmael> hello
[07:19] <quacker> freelove, that's a good simple hack to know.  Thanks for telling us.
[07:19] <MagicFab> using XFCE, is there a command I can use to provoke suspend-to-ram ? Not usinga  laptop, so there' s no FN-F4 key combination
[07:20] <Lews> Is there any way to install Ubuntu to the disk from the LiveCD, similar to Gentoo's installation?
[07:20] <MagicFab> echo 4 > /proc/acpi/sleep to hibernate (suspend to disk) works OK
[07:20] <quacker> I guess kaffeine is using statically linked libs (and  not finding them all, either)
[07:20] <sethk> MagicFab, you can change the shortcuts and assign something to it, alt-whatever perhaps
[07:20] <polpak> Lews: unfortunately not. You'll need an install CD
[07:20] <Lews> polpak: k, thanks
[07:21] <MagicFab> seth_k: tried that but the key to suspend doesn' t do anything - tried several key combinations
[07:21] <MagicFab> using gnome-keybinding-properties command
[07:21] <quacker> MagicFab, STR is still pretty buggy, so it might not work at all on your system.  Also, it's disabled by default, so you need to enable it first.  For more info, you can try #ubuntu-laptop
[07:22] <monzie> hi all
[07:22] <monzie> can someone tell me exactly what packages do i need to install to start GTK/gtkmm development on Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:22] <MagicFab> It' s enabled (edited /etc/default/acpi-support and /boot/grub/menu.lst)
[07:23] <monzie> can someone tell me exactly what packages do i need to install to start GTK/gtkmm development on Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:23] <MagicFab> tx., pretty sure the machine does it, it's an old Compaq SFF desktop
[07:23] <fsn> hmm, what if the package i need isn't there? it's askig for "Miscellaneous - Graphical (restricted) > xorg-driver-fglrx" but it is not listed...
[07:23] <MagicFab> will keep looking
[07:24] <monzie> help please
[07:24] <fsn> this is sixth|579 from before =P
[07:24] <leftist> you want to see something completely deep and off the hook, look at this. www.whosarat.com
[07:24] <Myrtti> monzie: try to install the programs you need, and the package managment will tell you what other packages you need.
[07:25] <Myrtti> I need more coffee or sleep
[07:25] <ysmael> hello
[07:25] <amicrawler> were are the src for more deb apt gets
[07:25] <monzie> i installed glade-gnome but it still gives problems on "include<gtk.h> statements
[07:25] <monzie> i need the header files Myrtti
[07:26] <amicrawler> and what about nvidia drivers
[07:26] <monzie> if you are using 5.10 amicrawler , you can enable it from synaptic itslef IHMO
[07:27] <AMCDeathKnight> Somehow Windows was removed from the Grub Menu. How do I put it back?
[07:27] <amicrawler> what is IHMO?
[07:27] <Fujitsu> monzie: gtk-dev.
[07:27] <Fujitsu> In My Humble Opinion
[07:27] <monzie> In My Humble Opinion
[07:27] <calamari> AMCDeathKnight: that happens to me too sometimes.. wish I knew why it disappears
[07:27] <AMCDeathKnight> Yeh how do I fix it?
[07:28] <sethk> AMCDeathKnight, you just add three lines
[07:28] <sethk> AMCDeathKnight, info grub has them
[07:28] <calamari> AMCDeathKnight: go to a terminal.. type sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:28] <monzie> no Fujitsu , that did not work
[07:28] <Fujitsu> gtk2-dev?
[07:29] <monzie> lemme try Fujitsu
[07:29] <amicrawler> so how do i get the nvidia driver installed  do i goto nvidia wesite?
[07:29] <monzie> just lists python-gtk2- and another crappy lib
[07:29] <CarlFK> amicrawler: no.  sand by...
[07:29] <Fujitsu> What was the missing file?
[07:29] <coz> hello all again
[07:30] <CarlFK> amicrawler: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:30] <coz> happy 5th day of the new year
[07:30] <CarlFK> amicrawler: you will probably want nvidia-settings too
[07:30] <calamari> coz: not for 30 minutes :)
[07:31] <amicrawler> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:31] <amicrawler> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:31] <amicrawler> that is what it sayes
[07:31] <coz> well actuall y where I am it is 1:31 in the morning of the 5th
[07:31] <Hikaru79> amicrawler, that happens when you try to use apt-get or synaptic when synaptic is already running
[07:31] <monzie> its the gnome-devel package Fujitsu
[07:31] <Hikaru79> You can't run synaptic two times at once. Close any previous apt sessions first.
[07:31] <monzie> that did it
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Ahh
[07:31] <coz> calamari AKA (Squid) where are you located
[07:31] <Fujitsu> I must remember that.
[07:31] <calamari> coz: arizona
[07:31] <coz> that'
[07:32] <coz> that's why
[07:32] <fsn> how do i enable direct rendering?
[07:32] <coz> I am in PA already the 5th
[07:32] <amicrawler> ok installed
[07:32] <Fujitsu> fsn: What card?
[07:32] <calamari> coz: mail me a cheesesteak, some water ice and a real pizza and wings.. please
[07:32] <fsn> ATI Radeon All-in-Wonder 9800
[07:33] <coz> lol well you knwo here in the pittsburgh area we have the best pizza avaiable in th eus
[07:33] <coz> the us
[07:33] <calamari> sorry for the offtopic :)
[07:33] <coz> yes me too
[07:33] <Fujitsu> fsn: Install fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx...
[07:34] <Fujitsu> And see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:34] <amicrawler> can i get xine with dvd encrypttions
[07:34] <amicrawler> or wine
[07:34] <fsn> Fujitsu, alright thanks, ill try that out
[07:35] <coz> amicrawler toten-xine is nicer in my opinion
[07:35] <amicrawler> all so can i get all the deb apt get- apps in this os>?
[07:35] <coz> amicrawler are you going to play dvds'
[07:35] <Fujitsu> Well.
[07:35] <Fujitsu> Interesting time to vanish.
[07:36] <coz> right in the middle of an inquiry
[07:37] <coz> guys I have been doing a little experimating with ubuntu
[07:37] <coz> I always knew that installing on a low formatted drive is best for any os
[07:37] <coz> but I am finding that ubuntu is especially sensitive to a dirty or previously occupied drive
[07:38] <coz> even if it was occupied by ubuntu
[07:38] <revmoo> i hope you have some evidence to prove that cos thats crazy talk
[07:38] <coz> The other day i had an install of ubuntu as I normally have it including the debian menu
[07:38] <revmoo> a drive should never ever need to be low level formatted, that's for the factory
[07:38] <coz> I purposly boroke it and then reinstalled WITHOUT low formatting
[07:39] <coz> after the install was finfished I found that i had the debian menu in the new install without having toadd it
[07:39] <coz> it was a bit querky but still there
[07:39] <CarlFK> revmoo: I think "low level format" has a different meaning here
[07:39] <coz> i found that uninstalling it was even a bit more querky
[07:40] <coz> I had to uninstall the invading debian menu and reinstall it on  buntu but hat didn't do it
[07:40] <thread> CarlFK: hey there! I've responded to your question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=628865
[07:40] <coz> the debian menu, AFTER install was no where to be found
[07:40] <coz> so I had to uninstall it and reinstall again to find it in the applications menuy
[07:40] <coz> menu
[07:40] <coz> I also found it immpossible to install the nvidia drivers on this dirty drive
[07:41] <coz> ubuntu woulnd't have it
[07:41] <coz> so after realizing, what aI already knew, I had to low format the drive and reinstall everything fresh
[07:41] <coz> I believe some problems that I have seen coming into this channel could be easily solved with a nice low formatted drive and thena reinstallation
[07:42] <Acill> I just got a new monitor and I cant get ubuntu to start now. It fails and tells me my xserver failed to start
[07:42] <CarlFK> thread: "Disk /dev/sda: 103.0 GB"  on a 200 - no clue.
[07:42] <Acill> how do I get into the settings to configure my monitor again?
[07:42] <thread> CarlFK: yeah.. weird isn't it?! ... I don't know what to think
[07:42] <Fujitsu> Acill: In a console, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:43] <CarlFK> coz - I wouldn't call it "low level format" - just "format" - "low level' is a thing from 1980's that isn't done anymore
[07:43] <Fujitsu> Basically accepting the defaults should get everything right.
[07:43] <thread> I wonder if there's something wrong with thie enclosure
[07:43] <site> hello anyone here?
[07:43] <CarlFK> thread: did the drive come in the enclosure ?
[07:43] <thread> no
[07:43] <thread> bought separately
[07:44] <thread> and of course it doesn't say anything about supporting linux
[07:44] <CarlFK> thread: let me get the box my $30 enclosuer came it.. wondering if there is a limit
[07:44] <sas171> how to install  rar unrar, seems like they arent in the repos...
[07:44] <site> i want to install vmware tools.. i did that already but it says u cant install when a guest operating system is not runnig
[07:44] <site> what is a guest operating system?
[07:44] <site> and how can i get thtat running?
[07:44] <Fujitsu> site: When you have an OS running in VMWare.
[07:44] <CarlFK> sas171: unrar-free
[07:44] <odat> hi everyone
[07:44] <site> Fujitsu, just like windows?
[07:45] <GerogeW> can sombody please tell me how i can access my soundcards inf file to edit it?
[07:45] <odat> just got my bittorrent client running beautiful for the first time with any client or OS
[07:45] <odat> little siked
[07:45] <Acill> thanks
[07:45] <odat> lol
[07:45] <Acill> working on it now
[07:45] <odat> by the way
[07:45] <odat> gnome rocks!
[07:45] <sas171> CarlFK: ok thx
[07:46] <testmachine> gnome and kde both rocks :)
[07:46] <Fujitsu> site: Yeah.
[07:46] <site> i dont know why windows runs so slow....
[07:46] <Fujitsu> GerogeW: inf file?
[07:46] <Fujitsu> site: In VMWare?
[07:46] <site> ive installed tools already
[07:46] <odat> testmachine, ehhhh
[07:46] <GerogeW> my mute button led is constantly on how can i fix this?
[07:46] <site> yes Fujitsu
[07:46] <GerogeW> the conf file
[07:46] <GerogeW> the file to edit the settings
[07:46] <CarlFK> thread: my compusa one says "up to 400gb"
[07:46] <GerogeW> i want to see if it is like my wifi where i added a option line and the led worked
[07:46] <Fujitsu> site: Things will run significantly slower in VMWare, as it must emulate everything through the host OS.
[07:47] <CarlFK> thread: so maybe your's has some other limit
[07:47] <paladinew> So how difficult is it to setup a secure tunnel using ssh from a xp box to my ubuntu box and setup a vnc session ????
[07:47] <CarlFK> paladinew: pice of cake ;)
[07:47] <n0dl> whenever i boot up i get a message that says failure in name resolution. My internet is not affected but what does it mean?
[07:48] <site> Fujitsu, but ive got a good system, and its running not fast
[07:48] <Acill> worked! thanks
[07:48] <site> ati x800
[07:48] <CarlFK> paladinew: I just talked a friend thorugh it last week... just a sec and I make some notes
[07:48] <Fujitsu> site: How slow?
[07:48] <site> and windows runs so slow
[07:48] <site> for example with scrolling
[07:48] <thread> CarlFK: yea that doesn't seem to be the case...
[07:48] <Fujitsu> paladinew: It's pretty easy.
[07:48] <site> it shakes when i scroll
[07:48] <amicrawler> so cani add repostitories to this os  like  deb apt apps?
[07:48] <CarlFK> paladinew: find the "allow loopback" setting in VNC server
[07:49] <site> thats slow huh Fujitsu ?
[07:49] <Fujitsu> Probably. What are the specs of the host and the VM?
[07:49] <morphix> does anyone know of an mp3,ape & mpc player that has media library and can handle 25,000+ songs.. rythmbox dies and lags for me :/
[07:50] <rhythminmind> hello i have a ? for you all....  i just replaced an ati 128 med card with a nvida 256.... X failed to start and i'm now at a cmd prompt... what do i have to run to install the new videocard?
[07:50] <GerogeW> when i restart my laptop it says "stopping wpa_supplicant-not started nothing to close" how can i have the supplicant on so that i can have my wpa settings working
[07:50] <odat> on this other machine i have i keep having file system error frequently as it is right now its so bad it keeps starting up and running fsck  any suggestions?
[07:50] <Carolyn> Hey
[07:50] <amicrawler> sudo to root sudo apt-get nvidia
[07:50] <site> host, amd 64 3400+, hdd total 450 GB, ati x800 pro. vmware, i dont know
[07:51] <Carolyn> is there a way to make Ubuntu play MP3s
[07:51] <rhythminmind> ok thanks i'll do that now
[07:51] <n0dl> does anyone know what the boot up error name resolution failure mean?
[07:51] <Carolyn> ya know without it knowing that they are
[07:51] <Hikaru79> rhythminmind, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:51] <amicrawler> xmms
[07:51] <CarlFK> rhythminmind: did you install ati drivers?
[07:51] <paladinew> carlfk: checking
[07:51] <odat> Carolyn, a couple ways
[07:51] <Carolyn> odat, really
[07:51] <Hikaru79> And then you can erase old fglrx drivers, comment out Module "DRI", etc
[07:51] <odat> Carolyn, depends what type of player you want to use
[07:51] <rhythminmind> the system was setup with a ati card at first
[07:52] <Carolyn> odat, ah that's true
[07:52] <n0dl> can someone please answer my question?
[07:52] <odat> Carolyn, honestly to take care of video and music stuff at the same time i would go install mplayer
[07:52] <paladinew> carlfk: on my ubuntu box I only have the built in terminal server client installed
[07:52] <odat> however i would do it a certain way first
[07:52] <Carolyn> odat, any of the players included in ubuntu or do I have to install
[07:52] <Carolyn> ah
[07:52] <GerogeW> if a tutorial says comment out-that means to delete right?
[07:53] <Carolyn> i am booting it off a CD
[07:53] <odat> Carolyn, are you familiar with synaptic?
[07:53] <cameron> anyone here good with ndiswrapper?
[07:53] <Carolyn> odat, i dont believe I have
[07:53] <site> thats weird huh Fujitsu ?
[07:53] <odat> Carolyn, are you running ubuntu?
[07:54] <Carolyn> yup as we speak odat
[07:54] <odat> Carolyn, then you already have it
[07:54] <Myrtti> live cd?
[07:54] <Carolyn> really
[07:54] <CarlFK> paladinew: here are my putty notes that are 'close' but don't give the steps for what you want
[07:54] <Carolyn> ya it is live
[07:54] <CarlFK> paladinew: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~Putty~SoftwareEng
[07:54] <odat> Carolyn, yup
[07:54] <Carolyn> does it matter what version
[07:54] <odat> Carolyn, oh your running a live cd?
[07:54] <site> is there a program in ubuntu for burning DVDr's ?
[07:54] <Carolyn> yah
[07:54] <odat> site, gnomebaker
[07:54] <Mez> site - k3b does :D
[07:54] <ejofee> what is the apt-get command which returns which files a packages installed on my machine?
[07:55] <site> odat, , i can burn isos with it?
[07:55] <GerogeW> i just did the tutorial for wpa supplicant i tried to start it but it says unsupported driver i have an intel ipw2200
[07:55] <odat> Carolyn, not sure how that works with the live cd version
[07:55] <cameron> odat: are you familiar with ndiswrapper at all?  xD
[07:55] <odat> site, yea
[07:55] <Carolyn> ah
[07:55] <GerogeW> did i do something wrong? do i need to update the driver
[07:55] <site> nice
[07:55] <Carolyn> my friend and I tried it yesturday
[07:55] <Carolyn> they were all read-only odat
[07:55] <Mez> site: you can with k3b too - one button on first start and you get to :D
[07:55] <odat> cameron, sorry no i havn't had a reason to use it
[07:55] <Mez> site: I made sure that button was there
[07:55] <viscount> anyone know the apt or dpkg command to list the files in a bundle?
[07:55] <site> cool MeeKs_
[07:55] <Mez> viscount, dpkg -L package
[07:55] <site> Mez,
[07:56] <viscount> Mez, thank you
[07:56] <Korupt> anyone know why in dapper the Apps menu would suddenly stop working right?
[07:56] <MeeKs_> hey
[07:56] <Carolyn> odat, Ubuntu hides the windows programs from the harddrive better than Knoppix
[07:56] <odat> Mez, k3b is so overrated and require too many kde libs
[07:56] <MeeKs_> whats cool?
[07:56] <Mez> Korupt - have you tried restarting
[07:56] <odat> Carolyn, ahhh i c
[07:56] <Korupt> Mez: 5-10 times now
[07:56] <Mez> odat: overrated - that's you're opinion :D kde libs - meh - I need to relibtool it :D
[07:56] <ubuntu_> jnnl;
[07:56] <Slaj_R> Can anyone direct me to a good printer driver wrapper?
[07:56] <ubuntu_> oop
[07:56] <viscount> Mez, happen to know which dir apt stores the bundles in?
[07:57] <ubuntu_> jpkpkpo
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> i like chicken
[07:57] <Korupt> Mez: (lost track of exactly how many times..... a bit tired)
[07:57] <Mez> viscount - you're on about the apt cache ?
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> and tacos
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[07:57] <odat> Slaj_R, ?
[07:57] <viscount> Mez, I am
[07:57] <Mez> Korrupt, where it stores the .deb files
[07:57] <Carolyn> odat, i know Debian and Ubuntu try to make a statement with mp3 files
[07:57] <site> i dont see it support DVDRs mez
[07:57] <Mez> visoucnt even
[07:57] <calamari> n0dl: are you on dialup?
[07:57] <Carolyn> they don't like them for some reason
[07:57] <Mez> site: it certainly does - have a look :D lol
[07:57] <Korupt> Mez: ?
[07:57] <Slaj_R> odat:  Specifically, I need to get a Dell 962 printer working in Ubuntu.
[07:57] <site> it does? so when i burn my iso, i can play it on standalone dvd-player?
[07:57] <Mez> Korrupt, nvm, got nto two convos
[07:57] <cameron> Anyone?  Ndiswrapper?  apparently no one is acive on #ndiswrapper
[07:57] <viscount> Mez, yes thats what I'm looking for, thought it would be in /tmp/apt or /var/apt
[07:58] <odat> Slaj_R, did you give cups a try first?
[07:58] <n0dl> calamari, no im on adsl
[07:58] <CarlFK> paladinew: (or someone) what is the command to start a VNC server ?
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> Carolyn: Ubuntu and Debian try to keep there distro as "legal" as possible.. so not including Applications to playback MP3's is just how they do..
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:58] <Slaj_R> odat:  How so?
[07:58] <Mez> viscount, /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:58] <viscount> ahh..
[07:58] <calamari> n0dl: ahh okay
[07:58] <crazney> hey.. i'm having a bit of confusion / problem with screensaver stuff.. It seems I only had xscreensaver installed, but it didn't have the switch user thing on the unlock box.. so i figured I would try and install gnome-screensaver, because it makes more sense that that has the box.. but now that gnome-screensaver is installed, 'lock screen' no longer works and I have two 'screensaver' options in my system->preferences menu.. anyone got
[07:58] <Korupt> Mez: oh yeah, and since i've started the upgrade I'm also now having package problems with cups and the rc file is broken
[07:58] <viscount> Mez, thanks again
[07:58] <n0dl> calamari why?
[07:58] <Seveas> crazney, bad idea, you need xscreensaver :)
[07:59] <Mez> CUPs isnt shutting down properly Korupt  ?
[07:59] <Carolyn> Mr_Milenko, is there away around the MP3 playack such as a loop hole?
[07:59] <crazney> Seveas: ok.. so any idea how to get xscreensaver to give me the unlock dialog box that it used to have? with the switch user button etc
[07:59] <purpleheart_USMC> Is $50 too much for a 300mhz P2 w/ 256mb ram?
[07:59] <Seveas> crazney, and xscreensaver from breezy has that switch user thing
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> uh.. you can install xmms O_o
[07:59] <crazney> Seveas: i'm using drapper or whatever it's called
[07:59] <Mez> Carolyn, there are packages in multiverse that will enable mp3
[07:59] <Fujitsu> purpleheart: Probably.
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> theres nothing blocking mp3 playback
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:59] <Fujitsu> Actuallu.
[07:59] <Fujitsu> Maybe not.
[07:59] <Mez> !tell Carolyn about mp3
[07:59] <Seveas> crazney, ah, that might be the cause
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> its just not there by default
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[07:59] <odat> Slaj_R, is that an all in one?
[07:59] <Fujitsu> The RAM is more than half of that price.
[08:00] <Seveas> dapper will eventually use gnome-screensaver
[08:00] <Carolyn> ah not there by default
[08:00] <Carolyn> yah
[08:00] <morphix> !tell morphix about ape
[08:00] <morphix> damn :(
[08:00] <Korupt> Mez: yeah and gives about five related errors (xsane, etc.) every time a package is installed/removed
[08:00] <Seveas> morphix, look in the mirror ;)
[08:00] <Mr_Milenko> purpleheart: I wouldnt pay 50 bucks for a 300mhz system..
[08:00] <morphix> !tell morphix about mpc
[08:00] <Slaj_R> odat:  Yes.  I've googled the heck out of this situation, and no Lexmark drivers I've installed are working.
[08:00] <Mez> Korupt, have you tried apt-get install -f ?
[08:00] <morphix> *stabs*
[08:00] <odat> Mez, how does that work on a live cd
[08:00] <purpleheart_USMC> ah
[08:00] <Korupt> Mez: wouldn't know exactly which package to force
[08:00] <morphix> !tell morphix about mplayer
[08:00] <Kindred> I tried gnome-screensaver because dapper will have it..  it's so basic you have to go into the conf editor to change the timeout time.. dumb..
[08:00] <bur[n] er> morphix: msg ubotu ;)
[08:00] <Mr_Milenko> just my opinion
[08:00] <Mez> odat: on a live CD? lol - yeah thats a paing
[08:00] <morphix> oh ok :P
[08:00] <Mez> Korupt: no - just run sudo apt-get install -f
[08:01] <Mez> it should fix things :D
[08:01] <Mez> did for me
[08:01] <site> damn, why is my vmware so slow?
[08:01] <crazney> Seveas: ah, i see from the changelog that they got rid of ubuntu changes to xscreensaver because they'll eventually ship with gnome-screensaver, which i'm guessing isn't ready yet?
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> whats your system specs site
[08:01] <site> my windows runs like shit in it..
[08:01] <viscount> Ok, anyone know how to use apt to download a package deb that is already installed? I just need to examine exactly which files it contains but its not in my apt/archives
[08:01] <Seveas> crazney, correct
[08:01] <crazney> hrm
[08:01] <site> host, amd 64 3400+, hdd total 450 GB, ati x800 pro. vmware, i dont know
[08:01] <site> Mr_Milenko,
[08:01] <Seveas> viscount, dpkg -L packagename
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> thats.. gay..
[08:01] <Korupt> Mez: will try it... should that also fix the issues with the init script?
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> that it isnt working
[08:01] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:01] <site> well, it works...
[08:01] <site> but slow as hell
[08:01] <crazney> well that's annoying
[08:02] <crazney> oh well
[08:02] <liable> viscount: --reinstall
[08:02] <odat> Slaj_R, the Z600 Series driver that is on lexmarks site under linux drivers will probably work at least for printing that is what i use with my lexmark until i get rid of the damn thing lol
[08:02] <Mez> viscount - technically sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> will do
[08:02] <rhythminmind> ok thanks a mil... X started right up with the new nivid card... should i do anything to cleanout the old ATI stuff? is there anything?
[08:02] <site> do you know anything about it Mr_Milenko ?
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> nope.. cant help ya there
[08:02] <site> how i can speed it up
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> everythings slow for me
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[08:02] <odat> Mez, thats what carolyn is using
[08:02] <Mez> Korupt, not with the init script - no - I just edited mine to force a kill :D
[08:02] <site> k
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> 399mhz Gateway POS 3000
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:02] <Mez> odat, didn't know that - but if she has 2 Drives :D
[08:02] <odat> Mez, lol
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> and i run windows
[08:02] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[08:02] <crazney> ok.. another question then. does anyone know where the system->preferences->window whatever prefernce thing went? or how i can get to it in the mean time?
[08:02] <Slaj_R> odat:  I installed the Z600 driver, and when a job is sent, the printer doesn't respond.
[08:03] <demona> HAH
[08:03] <demona> i fixed samba's little red wagon
[08:03] <viscount> Seveas, thats cool, I thought I would have to have the package in my apt/archives and go `dpkg -L archives/package.deb` for that to work, thanks man
[08:03] <Mez> demona, "little red wagon" ?
[08:03] <Seveas> viscount, hehe
[08:03] <demona> recap: mplayer to play mp3's from a samba share would run fine, but xmms would make smbiod peg the CPU at 100% at the same point every time.
[08:03] <odat> Slaj_R, this may sound weird but it worked for me i shut down my computer then turned off my printer waited a few seconds turn on my printer then my computer and presto
[08:03] <Mez> viscount - no as long as the package is installed dpkg -L will work :D
[08:04] <Johnny0> OK
[08:04] <viscount> Seveas, love it when stuff just makes sense like that
[08:04] <demona> i unmounted the samba share and remounted it as type CIFS instead of SMBFS
[08:04] <Seveas> viscount, to answer your original question: apt-get -d install --reinstall packagename
[08:04] <Johnny0> NO GO !
[08:04] <demona> problem solved.
[08:04] <Johnny0> grrrrrrr
[08:04] <Korupt> Mez: working on a pastebin entry for package problem
[08:04] <viscount> Mez, yeah, thats really cool, good to know!
[08:04] <Johnny0> IF anyone in here can walk me through being able to listen to www.xm-radio.com         or www.launch.com I will paypal you $20.00 !
[08:04] <Mez> Korupt, poor you
[08:04] <Slaj_R> odat:  I'll try it, but I may just have to replace the printer.
[08:04] <Korupt> Mez: http://pastebin.com/491392
[08:04] <Mez> Johnny0, lol - or you could just try asking !
[08:05] <CarlFK> paladinew: http://fox.wikis.com/wc.dll?Wiki~Putty~SoftwareEng (look for the new section I made for you.  Let me know if it works )
[08:05] <Johnny0> I have Mez :)
[08:05] <Slaj_R> odat: How long do you usually wait for a job to start?
[08:05] <odat> Slaj_R, not long
[08:05] <Johnny0> spent an hour and about to chunk this lappy outta frustration :) Im new to this strange ubuntu/linux world
[08:05] <viscount> Seveas, -d == download only, or something?
[08:05] <odat> Slaj_R, like i said i sort of put up with it for now but i'm getting an hp soon
[08:05] <site> is there a good ftp client like flashfxp for ubuntu?
[08:05] <Seveas> viscount, correct :)
[08:06] <odat> site, gftp
[08:06] <viscount> Seveas, yeah, more sense.. love it
[08:06] <Madpilot> site: there's gFTP, but it's fairly awful, I'm afraid...
[08:06] <Mez> Johnny0, I believe they use some sort of proprietary windows only thing
[08:06] <Seveas> site, gftp, places -> connect to server
[08:06] <site> where i can paste the ftp://look:look@10.34.34.33:2222
[08:06] <CarlFK> site - the file manager has it built in.  Look for "Connect/Server" or some option
[08:06] <odat> Madpilot, i like it lol
[08:06] <paladinew> carlfk: looking
[08:06] <site> ok
[08:06] <Seveas> site, but generally linux people son't like ftp and use sftp instead :)
[08:06] <site> sftp?
[08:06] <BlackJudas> keir, I remember reading about setting a flag for the ubuntu installer to support/offer jfs ... what is that again?
[08:06] <odat> site, there is also an extension for firefox just out that turns firefox into a nice ftp client but i haven't used it
[08:07] <Mr_Milenko> if you need an ftp app use gftp
[08:07] <Mr_Milenko> its teh pwn
[08:07] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:07] <Johnny0> Im going through withdrawals meepy metzen_Mez
[08:07] <BlackJudas> gah... wtf autocomplete ...  I remember reading about setting a flag for the ubuntu installer to support/offer jfs ... what is that again?
 site, there is also an extension for firefox just out that turns firefox into a nice ftp client but i haven't used it
[08:07] <Madpilot> odat: I dislike it because it always seems to screw up one connection I need, and it has NO documentation at all...
[08:07] <CarlFK> site: just like ftp, but change the ftp to sftp in that thing Seveas said ;)
[08:07] <BlackJudas> :/
[08:07] <BlackJudas> seriously ... heh
[08:07] <site> hm ok
[08:07] <amicrawler> what do i after install them  the nvidia drivers
[08:07] <site> but is gftp like flashfxp?
[08:07] <Johnny0> Is there no way to play WMA format using Totem ?
[08:08] <Seveas> amicrawler, run & hide :)
[08:08] <Seveas> Johnny0, totem-xine+w32codecs
[08:08] <odat> Madpilot, ahhh never got that problem but hey i get a lot of problems no one else gets soo lol
[08:08] <Madpilot> Johnny0: the w32codecs do wma
[08:08] <cameron> probably a stupid question, but how do I extract an exe?
[08:08] <Seveas> cameron, maybe with unzip, otherwise not
[08:08] <odat> site, its called a web browser go look it up
[08:08] <Madpilot> odat: it's mostly the lack of documentation that irritates me...
[08:08] <amicrawler> xine does wma and mp4 and mpg1,2,3,4
[08:08] <CarlFK> cameron: huh?  exe's dont extract ....
[08:08] <odat> Madpilot, ahh understood
[08:08] <site> i see it odat
[08:08] <site> installed gftp
[08:09] <Seveas> CarlFK, Self-extracting zips do :)
[08:09] <xae> hey
[08:09] <CarlFK> Seveas: good point
[08:09] <cameron> CarlFK: get files from it, for a driver... for my wifi card.
[08:09] <sagarp> how can ig et totem to play from an iso file withotu mountint it
[08:09] <sagarp> mounting*
[08:09] <amicrawler> seveas relly do i just restart x  and that's it  and it works?
[08:09] <site> do i have to fill it all in manualy?
[08:09] <Seveas> amicrawler, when you're lucky :)
[08:09] <site> or can i paste ftp://look:look@10.34.34.33:2222   ?
[08:09] <site> cos i hate doing that manually
[08:10] <CarlFK> cameron: worst case, use wine (kinda overkill, but will probably work)
[08:10] <odat> site, you can have bookmarks
[08:10] <site> hm..
[08:10] <monzie> how do i export contacts in some other format than .vcf in evolution
[08:10] <site> but is there a client where i can paste it?
[08:10] <odat> sagarp, an iso or a bin file?
[08:11] <sagarp> odat: iso
[08:11] <harris> i was wondering if anyone could help me out with someting.. i made the mistake of delating the bottom panel, now when I minmize applications they disspear, is there a way to restore it?
[08:11] <odat> site, i only ever used gftp
[08:11] <site> odat, well, i only used flashfxp
[08:11] <odat> sagarp, you could mount the iso but its a little tough
[08:11] <harris> when i create a new panel, it doesn't seem to house the minimize appz
[08:11] <xae> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on HDB (I've got windows installed on HDA)... I previously had SuSE installed on HDB.   Anyways, I did the install, and now it is giving me "Error Loading Operating System" upon boot... anyone have any ideas?
[08:11] <odat> site, then get used to something else
[08:11] <Johnny0> Seveas: I know Im sounding really ignorant - but where do I find the w32codecs or how do I install them ?
[08:11] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[08:11] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:12] <sagarp> odat: yeah, but i want to know if totem can just play the iso directly..it's the image of a dvd...i read that it's possible somewhere but it didnt explain how
[08:12] <site> odat, but i just need to paste the ftp..... its just too handy
[08:12] <odat> sagarp, are you unable to burn it?
[08:12] <site> i cant fill that in manually
[08:12] <Korupt> xae: did you install the boot loader to partition or MBR?
[08:12] <site> it takes too much time
[08:12] <sagarp> odat: i dont want to burn it...i copied the image from a dvd in the first place
[08:12] <BlackJudas> No one remembers?
[08:12] <odat> sagarp, i don't believe it can the only thing i know of that is similiar is vlc can play bin files
[08:13] <sagarp> hmm
[08:13] <Seveas> harris, add the window list to the panel
[08:13] <xae> Korupt: I believe it was /dev/hda    was the option... I'll look this time for the MBR if possible
[08:13] <Madpilot> site: Nautilus - the file manager - can do FTP links too
[08:13] <site> is that a program?
[08:13] <site> the file manager?
[08:13] <sagarp> odat: i guess i'll settle for mounting it then =P it's just a hassle to mount/umount whenever i want to change the disk or whatever
[08:13] <odat> sagarp, you might beable to mount the iso as a cd then play it
[08:13] <harris> where do I find the window list?
[08:13] <xae> Korupt: it's almost done reinstalling once again... =x
[08:13] <sagarp> odat: yeah that's what i do already
[08:13] <Johnny0> Thanks Seveas !
[08:13] <Johnny0> downloading them now
[08:13] <Madpilot> site: Places menu --> Home Folder - the app that starts is Nautilus
[08:13] <Korupt> xae: your old install probly installed to MBR... and MBR takes prefernce over partition
[08:13] <harris> it's not in the options when you click 'add to panel'
[08:14] <odat> sagarp, yea that does stink but i don't believe you can just read an iso with totem
[08:14] <xae> Korupt: how can I make ubuntu install to mbr? (90% done...)
[08:14] <sagarp> fie!
[08:14] <Acill> Whats the major differences between debian and ubuntu? I hace both on this system and they feel a lot alike.
[08:14] <Dr_Fie> sagarp: hmm?
[08:14] <Myrtti> sudo and friendlier community
[08:14] <coz> Acill ubuntu is based on debian
[08:14] <Seveas> !debian
[08:14] <odat> Acill, well ubuntu is based on debian
[08:14] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[08:14] <Seveas> ^-- Acill
[08:15] <xae> okay, I hit "YES" install grub to the master boot record
[08:15] <coz> It is essencially debian
[08:15] <sagarp> dr_fie: lol! sorry, i was using "fie" as an expression!
[08:15] <xae> it says "Detected Microsoft windows XP Pro"
[08:15] <Seveas> read that page for more info
[08:15] <odat> Acill, but ubuntu is a lot more active and little more up to date then debian at the moment
[08:15] <Dr_Fie> sagarp: Oh :)
[08:15] <Acill> does it have any advantages over Debian?
[08:15] <Seveas> xae, that means it'll wipe windows for you as extra service
[08:15] <Seveas> (justkidding)
[08:15] <odat> Acill, ubuntu has their own repositories as well
[08:15] <site> i see thanx Madpilot
[08:15] <coz> Acill not if you are used to using debian
[08:15] <xae> hitting continue... *waits for reboot*
[08:15] <Seveas> Acill, read the page ubotu gave for more info
[08:15] <harris> seveas thanks i figured it out!
[08:15] <coz> seveas is right
[08:16] <Korupt> xae: good question..... I usually hand compile my distro based on Linux From Scratch, this is my first Ubuntu install
[08:16] <odat> Acill, i believe many like active support and developement of the latest and greatest stuff
[08:16] <coz> sorry wrong people
[08:16] <Acill> coz: The only thing I notice in this debian install is a lot more of my hardware seems to work
[08:16] <xae> Korupt: "Error loading operating system_"   the _ is blinking
[08:16] <Madpilot> Myrtti: nice four-word summary of Ubuntu! :P
[08:16] <Korupt> xae: disconnect the windows drive to rule it out
[08:16] <coz> Yes ubuntu is a bit behind on some things even the applications but I think they are on the right track
[08:16] <Acill> coz: in ubuntu my sound card never wuite seems to work
[08:16] <odat> Acill, what isn't working on ubuntu?
[08:16] <coz> join the many
[08:16] <CarlFK> Korupt: I used to compile everthing too.  turns out the distro guys are more on top of things than I am
[08:17] <rhythminmind> the gnome resolution utility is only going up to 1280-960  ... how can i set this to 1280-1024?
[08:17] <Madpilot> !fixres
[08:17] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:17] <Korupt> CarlFK: that's not always a good thing
[08:17] <Seveas> CarlFK, not a miracle given that you're one person and they are many people :)
[08:17] <coz> there is one problem ther the resolution
[08:17] <Johnny0> Seveas: root@JohnnyODel:~/Desktop# sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:17] <Johnny0> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[08:17] <Johnny0>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:17] <Johnny0> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:17] <Johnny0>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:17] <Myrtti> Madpilot: those are about the only differences I've come up with ;-)
[08:17] <Johnny0> sorry for the scroll :(
[08:17] <odat> rhythminmind, what kind of graphics card?
[08:17] <Seveas> Johnny0, type the correct filename
[08:17] <Myrtti> !tell Johnny0 about pastebin
[08:17] <Korupt> Johnny0: ever heard of pastebin.com?
[08:17] <chop> hi there, i have a problem when installing ubuntu on my laptop, it's getting hotter than in windows. 1 fan doesnt work. My laptop is sony vaio VGN A170B. Thanks
[08:18] <rhythminmind> nvidia 5500
[08:18] <Hobbsee> is anyone here on dapper, and have they got the xorg updates (within the last few hours)?  If so, is X now broken, or does it still work?
[08:18] <coz> Hobbsee i uninstalled dapper not woth it yet
[08:18] <Korupt> speaking of.....  heeeeeellllllppppp  http://pastebin.com/491392
[08:18] <coz> worth
[08:18] <odat> Johnny0, hold on use this repository deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[08:18] <xae> Korupt: same error
[08:18] <Korupt> Hobbsee: I'm working through some nasty errors with it myself
[08:18] <Hobbsee> coz: yeah, but i just want to know if people have had problems with the latest xorg update, before i say "yes, i want to update"
[08:18] <odat> Johnny0, and this one deb-src ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ breezy main
[08:18] <Acill> When I run the update manager and it installs the new updates do the downloaded files and the old files get flushed out of the system?
[08:18] <coz> chop has a reall problem guys give him a hand
[08:19] <Hobbsee> Korupt: what errors?
[08:19] <Korupt> Hobbsee, http://pastebin.com/491392
[08:19] <nije> How to play mp3's in Ubuntu
[08:19] <coz> Hobbsee I don't know about the update but give it a try
[08:19] <chop> coz any suggestion coz?
[08:19] <odat> Acill, usually unless its a kernel update then you have to get rid of the old kernel manually through synaptic
[08:19] <coz> chop no I haven't installed on any laptop as of yet
[08:19] <HIghoS> The OpenOffice debs are broken though, won't install properly.
[08:20] <Korupt> Hobbsee, gnome glitch && cups glitch && reboot init script glitch
[08:20] <Nije> hello any1?
[08:20] <coz> sorry guy someone here should have some idea what to do
[08:20] <odat> Nije, with what player?
[08:20] <coz> if you can get their attention
[08:20] <Nije> rythm jukebox
[08:20] <Madpilot> !tell Nije about mp3
[08:20] <Hobbsee> coz: ok
[08:20] <chop> coz: ok, ill try :D
[08:20] <odat> Nije, familiar with synaptic?
[08:20] <Korupt> 'course I've almost given up on any hope that I'll fix them all
[08:20] <Nije> yes
[08:21] <cameron> Ha!  cabextract is a wonderful program.
[08:21] <Hobbsee> Korupt: i had some of those errors, and then i updated and upgraded later in the day, and they went away by themselves - which mirror are you using?
[08:21] <coz> chop is haveing a problem with ubuntu on hislaptop
[08:21] <chop> guys, my laptop's getting hot
[08:21] <Madpilot> Nije: see the pm the bot just sent you for mp3 info
[08:21] <odat> Nije, then add the two repositories i said above then add you gstreamer plugins
[08:21] <coz> any of you experienced with laptop installs
[08:21] <chop> one fan doesnt work
[08:22] <Korupt> Hobbsee: us.archive.ubuntu.com      you?
[08:22] <borisattva> does anyone have any ideas on how to find out which plug in is necessray for www.isketch.org  .. not having this game is the only reason i am sorry i sacked windows for good in favor of ubuntu
[08:22] <coz> chop the fan itself may be bad
[08:22] <chop> no
[08:22] <coz> ok
[08:22] <chop> coz: it works in windows
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Korupt: gb.archive.ubuntu.com <-- US mirrors used to be borked, and late, not sure if they still are
[08:22] <Stork> hi, can anyone help me install cadega? It says I need transgaming deb package but i don't know where to find it
[08:22] <odat> chop, how do you know the fan works in windows?
[08:22] <coz> did you low format the drive before you install ubuntu
[08:22] <Hobbsee> Korupt: probably worth switching over to gb
[08:22] <CarlFK> borisattva: shockwave...
[08:23] <chop> coz: i have had a look in the forum but didnt get any thing
[08:23] <borisattva> carl: i have that installed. but no go. doe sit work fo ryou?
[08:23] <Stork> (GB owns)
[08:23] <coz> chop Ok but did you install this over the windows install
[08:23] <Hobbsee> Stork: ask that in #cedega
[08:23] <chop> odat: i used my hand :)
[08:23] <Nije> but i dont havea dialup connection
[08:23] <Stork> oh, good plan
[08:23] <chop> odat: feel the wind flow
[08:23] <Nije> I also could not connect to the internet
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> Can VNC be used for a console as well, or just X?
[08:23] <chop> coz: yes, i did
[08:24] <coz> Ok that may be a lisght problem hold on I will give the url for the iso
[08:24] <coz> http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/drivers/discwiz.html
[08:24] <odat> chop, well i can't say that i often turn on my machine and feel the fans lol
[08:24] <Korupt> Hobbsee, Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main
[08:24] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: for console use ssh - openssh-server
[08:24] <coz> chop go to bottom of page and choose cd iso
[08:24] <coz> burn that to disk put in cd rom rebott and choose utilities
[08:24] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: "all" unix has ssh client, putty.exe for windows
[08:25] <coz> then write zeros to drive (full)_
[08:25] <chop> odat: it is hottest at the bottom of the box
[08:25] <coz> mau take up to an hour mor more
[08:25] <chop> coz: thanks
[08:25] <Nije> Where can i ask for modem drivers for linux?
[08:25] <site> is freebsd the best OS around?
[08:25] <coz> chop come back tomorrow and let us know if the fan works after that
[08:25] <coz>  unfotunately sony computer are very proprietary
[08:26] <CarlFK> site - no.  BOB is best ;)
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> CarlFK, I'm wondering if I could use this to help friends, and have a setup where I could type a command, they could see it, then they could type something in the same console, and I could see it, and the output.
[08:26] <odat> site, freebsd is cool but i believe linux has much more support
[08:26] <chop> thanks guys
[08:26] <Hobbsee> Korupt: my sources list:  http://pastebin.com/491404
[08:26] <coz> have a good one CHOP
[08:26] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: even better, if you can ssh into another box, you can issue commands there just as if you were sitting in front of it yourself...
[08:26] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: check out the screen command.  you want "screen -x" to connect to... hmm
[08:26] <Nije> hello where can i get the linux drivers for modems?
[08:26] <site> more support? but what is more stable? and do you think i could learn a lot from freebsd?
[08:27] <CarlFK> tonyyarusso: yes - screen -x
[08:27] <Johnny0> All of our servers are FreeBSD - but I can't manage them ! :(
[08:27] <site> why not
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Okay, CarlFK and Madpilot.
[08:27] <CarlFK> site - dos6.11 is probably the most stable OS ;)
[08:27] <site> really?
[08:27] <Johnny0> GWBasic
[08:27] <coz> yess doss
[08:27] <Adross> don't ask me how, but my /home partition has become slightly corrupted. Stull usable, but fsck always fails at start up
[08:28] <site> Dos is better then freebsd?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> (btw, figured out VNC to be running this from a computer next to the one it's actually one, sort of fun.)
[08:28] <coz> dos is rock solid
[08:28] <morphix> in a playlist file.. would
[08:28] <morphix> #EXTINF:274,8Ball & MJG - You Don't Want Drama
[08:28] <morphix> 8Ball_And_MJG-Living_Legends-_Retail_-2004-RNS\02-8ball_and_mjg-you_dont_want_drama-rns.mp3
[08:28] <Korupt> Hobbsee, this xorg change makes me nervous
[08:28] <Johnny0> odat:
[08:28] <morphix> would that work for relative path?
[08:28] <Johnny0> sent you a PM
[08:28] <Adross> i am now on slax, a live distro, with fsck 1.35. What command show i whack in to fix my /home partition?
[08:28] <alvyn> my god I can hardly read the screen
[08:28] <odat> Johnny0, ?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> Korupt: yeah, not seeing any feedback from anyone yet
[08:28] <site> and what about Unix??
[08:28] <alvyn> everything is wavy
[08:28] <Korupt> Hobbsee, well... the system already has issues so I might as well
[08:28] <alvyn> waving from top to bottom
[08:28] <coz> solaris 10 is free from sun give it a try I didn't like it
[08:29] <alvyn> but only one screen image
[08:29] <coz> there are otherflavors
[08:29] <Hobbsee> Korupt: hehe ok then!  you know how to use irssi and w3m if it all screws up?
[08:29] <Madpilot> site: you're on a Linux distro's chat room, you're going to get biased answers here :P
[08:29] <coz> irix is great but very proprietary
[08:29] <Hobbsee> Korupt: and various other console apps?
[08:29] <Adross> will fsck /home work?
[08:29] <coz> must have hardware from silcon graphics I believe
[08:29] <alvyn> I went to preferences Screen Resolution
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> One thing I'm still confused about though: Does there have to be someone on the computer you're trying to connect to with VNC, logged in, and able to accept your connection?  Could you set it up so the server computer would only have to be turned on, and be able to log in and authenticate yourself?
[08:29] <site> biased answers?
[08:29] <cameron> anyone know how to make ndiswrapper load on startup?
[08:29] <site> i dont understand that word
[08:29] <Korupt> Hobbsee, to put it mildly..... I normally use Linux From Scratch... so I know my way around a terminal
[08:29] <alvyn> and there is only 640x480 and 60hz refresh
[08:29] <site> but i guess it means mixed?
[08:30] <Hobbsee> Korupt: hehe oh good!
[08:30] <coz> site if you have the time try everything avaiable
[08:30] <Korupt> Hobbsee, actually... I only used Ubuntu cause I wanted something easy on my laptop
[08:30] <alvyn> hhmmm maybe it lost the video card install or something
[08:30] <site> well
[08:30] <site> i think i better run linux in windows.. then windows in linux
[08:30] <Hobbsee> Korupt: nice, so you are very used to breakage
[08:30] <site> correct?
[08:31] <alvyn> site no
[08:31] <site> this is too slow for me
[08:31] <odat> site, what the hell are you talking about
[08:31] <alvyn> I must say that is the wrong approach
[08:31] <xae> hrmm
[08:31] <site> no?
[08:31] <site> well odat  im using windows in linux with vmware now
[08:31] <Korupt> Hobbsee, more of the opposite once I have it installed.... my LFS server has been up for six months without so much as a peep
[08:31] <site> and its slow as hell
[08:31] <coz> site do you need windows for something high end?
[08:31] <coz> If so keep it
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Korupt: nice!
[08:32] <site> yes i do coz
[08:32] <xae> outve curiousity, anyone know how vs.net 2005 runs under vmware?
[08:32] <site> coz, thats the reason why
[08:32] <coz> then don't bother with linux
[08:32] <coz> it has few high end apps aviable and the ones it does have
[08:32] <site> dont bother? u mean dont use  it?
[08:32] <alvyn> help I need to fix the screen before I go dizzy and fall over
[08:32] <coz> are costly and require higher end computers to run
[08:32] <coz> ubuntu is great, right now, for normal usage
[08:33] <coz>  email, internet, etc, and server uses
[08:33] <site> hm, your right
[08:33] <site> i agree totally
[08:33] <site> i should format and install windows
[08:33] <UltraVi01> has anyone got World of Warcraft to on Wine?
[08:33] <coz> us the Os that is right for what you need to do
[08:33] <site> and run linux in vmware
[08:33] <coz> vmware would be nice
[08:33] <Adross> anyone? fsck? help?
[08:33] <Korupt> Hobbsee, inclusing changing out Bind9 (which blows) for dnsmasq
[08:33] <xae> UltraVi01: isnt there a wiki entry about that?
[08:34] <coz> you can also use the live cds for several of the linux flavors inslucing ubuntu
[08:34] <coz> that way no harm no foul
[08:34] <LightShear> hey everyone
[08:34] <cubikdice> hi
[08:34] <alvyn> ok how can I rerun the video card setup
[08:34] <coz> LightShear hey
[08:34] <UltraVi01> hmm.. xae -- not that i've seen
[08:34] <LightShear> hows everyone doing tonight/ this morning, afternoon...
[08:34] <moodog> morning all.
[08:34] <CarlFK> borisattva: dosn't play for me either.  to be sure you have the plugin installed, put "about:pluggins" in Firefox's location
[08:34] <coz> morning moodog
[08:35] <coz> happy 5th day of the new year
[08:35] <LightShear> w00t!
[08:35] <site> coz, live cd? can i run same osses at a time theN/
[08:35] <LightShear> cvs already has valentines day crap up
[08:35] <site> same = 2
[08:35] <LightShear> its so depressing
[08:36] <coz> no the live cd is a cd that boots uses memory no hard drive usage except minor cahce
[08:36] <Korupt> Hobbsee, BRB.... here goes with the updates (praying it fixes this extremely annoying menu glitch)
[08:36] <dotchad> tonyyarusso, thanks
[08:37] <coz> download the live cd for ubuntu and give it a try
[08:37] <ighost> anybody know if the bug where ubuntu install eats your windows partitions is fixed?
[08:37] <polpak> ighost: lol
[08:37] <ighost> not joking :\
[08:38] <hicksy> hi. I have a problem I can't get around. I was happily  going through the ubuntuguide.org and everything was going great until i tried to install some extra fonts. It gave me an error with msttcorefonts.  So now, when I am trying to install other things, it keeps going back to that and keeps getting the same error. I dont really even need those fonts. Anyone know how I can fix this? Thanks!
[08:38] <LightShear> i thought he was joking
[08:38] <ighost> so was it?
[08:38] <odat> xae, whats wrong?
[08:38] <alvyn> i think ubuntu lost my video card setup or something. how can i do hardware redetect or even jsut for video card
[08:38] <alvyn> ighost, thats not a bug
[08:38] <alvyn> because it was intentional
[08:38] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, apt-get -f install
[08:38] <blue-frog> alvyn, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:38] <xae> odat: trying to setup dual boot (windows on hda, ubuntu on hdb). I had SuSE on ... omg one sec
[08:38] <xae> i think i fixed it
[08:39] <alvyn> bugs are like accidental flaws that make some one go oops
[08:39] <ighost> what do you mean, alvyn?
[08:39] <xae> never mind, "Selected disk does not exist"
[08:39] <Steil> Is there any reason why xorg would be using 40% of my memory? (I have 768MB)
[08:39] <alvyn> blue-frog, thanks
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> ighost, Eats windows partitions??  I've installed it on two computers with Windows, and both were fine.
[08:39] <Hobbsee> Korupt: ok, and i think i heard the hack for that menu glitch...
[08:39] <Korupt> Hobbsee, oh?
[08:39] <ighost> tonyyarusso, ya i was told here earlier that it's a rare bug and only happens on certain setups
[08:39] <hicksy> La_PaRCa ... hmm it says: Could not open lock file....
[08:40] <Korupt> Hobbsee, I could use that info..... cause right now it is a little hard to run most of my applications
[08:40] <LightShear> ubuntu and kubuntu (Gnome/KDE) can run on the smae machine, right? I'm used to RedHat where you just pick a session
[08:40] <xae> odat: never mind, its a success
[08:40] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, close synaptic first
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> ighost, If there was a bug submitted, you can search for it and see what the status is.
[08:40] <xae> grr... "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition"
[08:40] <Hobbsee> Korupt: did it work?
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, Yes.
[08:40] <hydroksyde> chmod a+x /bin/laden
[08:40] <ighost> tonyyarusso, where?
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, At the login screen, just select either one under "Session".
[08:40] <blue-frog> LightShear, on redhat gnoema nd kde have same look but you can run whichever u choose..
[08:40] <Korupt> Hobbsee, partly..... the xorg worked fine and my init scripts are fixed now.... menu is still b0rked tho
[08:40] <viscount> So is there any point reporting bugs for breezy?
[08:41] <LightShear> awesome thanks tony...ubuntu install first?, then kubuntu
[08:41] <Hobbsee> Korupt: sure, i'll go look for it
[08:41] <odat> xae, cool
[08:41] <LightShear> or doesnt it matter
[08:41] <Korupt> Hobbsee, cool, you rock
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> ighost, Bugzilla, perhaps?
[08:41] <xae> odat, fixed er all up :)
[08:41] <BlackJudas> is kdm the only login manager that will run custom sessions on startup? ... ie will gdm be able to do so?
[08:41] <xae> had to mess with grub a bit
[08:41] <ldmiller> ping
[08:41] <viscount> Will they actually be fixed or will we just have to wait for Dapper and reporting them probably just pointless....
[08:41] <odat> xae, remember linux is like golf   can be frustrating but when you get it   its like hitting a great shot :)
[08:41] <Anssi_> !sound
[08:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:42] <xae> odat: ive got linux to boot, its finishing the install now...
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, I would guess it doesn't matter, but I haven't tried with KDE yet.  The one you install first will determine which login manager gets set to run, but you can change that later too.
[08:42] <xae> odat: getting windows to work will be fun though :)
[08:42] <La_PaRCa> odat, wow, that is one bad bad analogy
[08:42] <hicksy> La_PaRCa ....i just forgot sudo... but after I ran that command you gave me I got the same error
[08:42] <odat> La_PaRCa, you have a better one
[08:42] <Stork> odat, agreed with La_PaRCa :p
[08:42] <odat> lolol
[08:42] <alamba> hi all...anyone out there who can help me out with a vmware player problem? Did post on the forum but no replies for the past 20 min
[08:42] <Korupt> xae: not that hard..... look up the documentation for GRUB
[08:42] <Stork> "linux is like my sister, it can't game for shit"
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> BlackJudas, What sort of custom?  GDM has things like "failsafe terminal" and a couple of other options I don't remember, if that's what you mean.
[08:42] <LightShear> cool..i've only got one machine running with ubuntu server which is what i'm trying to play around with
[08:43] <xae> Korupt: im hoping it was as easy as changing the drive ordering in grub like i did to make it boot linux :)
[08:43] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, paste the error to the pastebin
[08:43] <LightShear> i'm gunna load ubuntu onto my laptop tomorrow
[08:43] <LightShear> well one of them
[08:43] <odat> Stork, thats not true i play madden football on my linux
[08:43] <BlackJudas> tonyyarusso, nah, ie run a program on login
[08:43] <Korupt> xae: its something along the lines of rootnoverify hd(0,0)
[08:43] <Hobbsee> Korupt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109355
[08:43] <Stork> odat, well it's been hell trying to install quake4
[08:43] <hicksy> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:44] <xae> Korupt: i made the linux one... hd(0,0) from hd(1,0)   so im just assuming i switch the win one too :)
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> BlackJudas, I don't know about gdm, but you can set that up in Gnome if you want something to always run.  Not sure about single instances.
[08:44] <odat> Stork, didn't i send you something earlier
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> What kind of lappy, LightShear?
[08:44] <La_PaRCa> w00t, now, thats new, a newcomer with a clue!
[08:45] <Korupt> xae: no, it needs to use rootnoverify... that much I remember
[08:45] <site> where does vmware store its files?
[08:45] <LightShear> HP ze1250..kinda old but has a new HD in it (old one broke)
[08:45] <Stork> odat, yeh, cedega, but i couldn't get it working
[08:45] <LightShear> has a new AMD too...the old one melted..sorta
[08:45] <hicksy> La_PaRCa just posted
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, How can something sorta melt?
[08:45] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, addie?
[08:46] <odat> Stork, did you get it installed?
[08:46] <LightShear> it had burn marks on it
[08:46] <LightShear> lol
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> Oh wow...
[08:46] <site> site where does vmware store its files?
[08:46] <site> site when i download something?
[08:46] <site> site in the guest OS
[08:46] <LightShear> and was overheating
[08:46] <Stork> odat, nope, i need to pay for it though
[08:46] <odat> Stork, ?
[08:46] <LightShear> so i got a new processor and heat sink
[08:46] <Stork> cedega isn't free
[08:46] <hicksy> La_PaRCa http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6635
[08:46] <xae> Stork: isnt there a cvs version of it?
[08:47] <odat> Stork, cedega is free in my mind cuz the stole wine and made it commercial which in turn makes them grimey bastards
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> One thing I'm still confused about though: Does there have to be someone on the computer you're trying to connect to with VNC, logged in, and able to accept your connection?  Could you set it up so the server computer would only have to be turned on, and be able to log in and authenticate yourself?
[08:47] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, try making the dir thats giving you the error: sudo mkdir /usr/share/X11/fonts/truetype
[08:47] <blue-frog> odat, nobody forces you to use cedega, you can stick with wine..
[08:47] <Stork> well i have to go to school
[08:47] <garry> There is a cvs version of cedega. It does lag behind the charge version tho a bit.
[08:47] <blue-frog> odat, or windows
[08:47] <Korupt> Hobbsee, that worked... I could kiss you
[08:48] <Hobbsee> Korupt: :D  hehe
[08:48] <odat> blue-frog, wine still doesn't support mulitple cd installs or i would have  believe me i tried
[08:48] <Stork> blue-frog, hah, windows is a little expensive, don't you think?
[08:48] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, actually... um... are you behind a proxy?
[08:48] <hicksy> La_PaRCa nope no proxy
[08:49] <hicksy> La_PaRCa perhaps the actual server is down?
[08:49] <Korupt> Hobbsee, okay..... now for the real fun, how do I get it so that I can turn off tapping on my laptop's drag pad?
[08:49] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, so it would seem
[08:49] <rhythminmind> ok new problem...... when i reboot i get a URB - Status -71 & it just starts counting down scrolling down the screen... this is after a new videocard install
[08:49] <blue-frog> Stork, to install wine options you need a valid windows license so i don't see the point trying to reproduce windows on something else...
[08:49] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, just uninstall the package and maybe try later
[08:49] <amicrawler> how to i gain root access
[08:49] <site> sudo
[08:49] <amicrawler> i did
[08:49] <xae> amicrawler: type "sudo su"
[08:49] <zorba64> amicrawler: sudo -i
[08:49] <amicrawler> su: Authentication failure
[08:49] <amicrawler> Sorry.
[08:49] <hicksy> La_PaRCa ahh yes... so what would the command for that be?
[08:50] <site> sudo.. command
[08:50] <cubikdice> sudo -s
[08:50] <cubikdice> :)
[08:50] <Linfanguin> can i install kubuntu and select it from the sessions screen during log in? instead of having to choose during bootup? somebody told me that i can have gnome and kde like this
[08:50] <odat> blue-frog  where the hell do you get that?
[08:50] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, sudo apt-get remove msttcorefonts
[08:50] <zorba64> amicrawler: use you password when it asks for one
[08:50] <Hobbsee> Korupt: hmm...there's a good question....got synaptics installed, or whatever the gnome equivalent of it is?  i'm presuming its' some sort of configuration to set
[08:50] <alvyn> ok so now that I have reun configure xorg nothing has changed
[08:50] <LightShear> lin, yes that was my question a little while ago!
[08:50] <LightShear> hehe
[08:50] <Hobbsee> hicksy: did it complain about cabextract?
[08:50] <Linfanguin> thats great how do we do it?
[08:50] <alvyn> can I just log out and back in or does this need a whole reboot
[08:50] <LightShear> i let you know when i figure it out
[08:50] <Linfanguin> did they explain to you how to acomplish it?
[08:50] <blue-frog> odat, you should read carefully when u install dcom 98 and similar things on wine...
[08:50] <LightShear> lol
[08:50] <Korupt> Hobbsee, synaptics..... might be the xorg.conf
[08:51] <LightShear> no, but it should be fun
[08:51] <site> ok ,  i dwonloaded kb3
[08:51] <odat> blue-frog, you haven't used wine in a wile huh you don't need dcom anymore
[08:51] <site> now how do i start it?
[08:51] <Hobbsee> Korupt: could be, synaptics is a program though
[08:51] <blue-frog> odat then fine for u
[08:51] <hicksy> hobbsee dont really know what your talking about.. so i dont think so
[08:51] <Linfanguin> oh man i can have my firldfriend use kde since is so pretty and user friendly and i can use gnome thats awesome
[08:51] <Linfanguin> now to find away to do it
[08:52] <odat> blue-frog no fine for linux not just me
[08:52] <hicksy> La_PaRCa no more annoying error. Thanks a lot!
[08:52] <Hobbsee> hicksy: what error did you get with the msttcorefonts?  did you pastebin it?
[08:52] <garry> According to freshmeat, a new version of wine came out today, said some major bug fixes.
[08:52] <LightShear> yea lin, that's my goal for the weekend
[08:52] <Korupt> Hobbsee, unfortunately enough it is also the name of the touchpad on most laptops theses days
[08:52] <hicksy> hobbsee http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6635
[08:52] <Hobbsee> Korupt: ah, right
[08:53] <Hobbsee> hicksy: ah, great, that error
[08:53] <garry> A week ago, I installed KDE on this Ubuntu system. Things seem to work, but best to backup your system first because some folks have issues.
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> LightShear, Linfanguin: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <XaXXon> anyone know if I should be getting hardware accelleration on my g4 powerbook with an nvidia 5200 go card?
[08:53] <hicksy> hobbsee im just not going to worry about that msttcorefonts. I dont even know what it is lol. I was just going down the list on ubuntuguide. is it anything important?
[08:54] <Hobbsee> hicksy: it's just a whole lot of microsoft fonts that you can use.  it's not "important" per se
[08:54] <La_PaRCa> hicksy, it contains the MS truetype fonts. The fonts you would find in windows.
[08:54] <polpak> XaXXon: have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[08:54] <Hobbsee> !tell hicksy about ubuntuguide
[08:54] <XaXXon> polpak, live cd
[08:54] <Linfanguin> whoa thats awesome so i can install kubuntu and select it from the sessions screen...will it still display ubuntu and kubuntu during boot?
[08:54] <XaXXon> polpak, sorry, I didn't specify
[08:54] <Hobbsee> Linfanguin: during boot?  it'l let you select one or other from the sessions screen, but i'm not sure  what you're meaning
[08:54] <hicksy> ahh I was wondering... Any chance they will update ubuntuguide in the future, anyone know?
[08:55] <Aven> hey
[08:55] <Aven> how do you edit the colors of ssh for when people ssh into my server?
[08:55] <polpak> XaXXon: you can still install it using the live cd
[08:55] <Aven> s/edit/customize
[08:55] <Madpilot> hicksy: there's lots of official up-to-date docs out there
[08:55] <polpak> XaXXon: you just have to reinstall it any time you reboot
[08:56] <Madpilot> Aven: give me a minute - I did this myself, and I need to track down the howto
[08:56] <Linfanguin> yeah like you know when you have windows and linux during boot it gives you time to select? i dont want that-i want to load ubuntu like if its the only operating system-and then i can just switch to kubuntu when i want to by selcting it from the sessions screen during log in
[08:56] <ejofee> can anybody please give me an xrandr one-liner to change resolution from 1024x768, 16 bits, 60 hz to 800x600, 32 bits, 75 hz?
[08:56] <Aven> Madpilot: alright :)
[08:56] <XaXXon> polpak, any idea where to look for docs?
[08:56] <polpak> hicksy: the new location for the 'ubuntu guide' is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[08:56] <polpak> XaXXon: sure http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installnvidiadriver
[08:56] <Linfanguin> i want kubuntu more for my girl i love ubuntu im still trying to find ways on how to hack it and make it faster then it already is
[08:57] <polpak> Linfanguin: dapper is supposed to be blazing compared to Hoary and Breezy
[08:57] <Linfanguin> polpak, do you know when it will be released?
[08:57] <polpak> Linfanguin: april
[08:57] <SCMark> how do I get rid of the fading effect when I select logout from the system menu in gnome?
[08:57] <techone> wow I was just previously alvin, and after reboot I now have a good desktop visual but I just tried FireFox and it starts loading and then disappears
[08:57] <Jochen> Hi people. I have problems with adept
[08:57] <Jochen> I think, it is broken somehow
[08:58] <techone> is this a known problem
[08:58] <polpak> Linfanguin: as for your booting issue. Check out /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:58] <Linfanguin> i personally feel like ubuntu kicks the shit out of windows
[08:58] <ysmael> hello
[08:58] <hicksy> polpak, at first glance that looks great
[08:58] <Jochen> adept, isn't able to remove a package and sofar no more able to install other ones.
[08:58] <Madpilot> Aven: pm?
[08:58] <ysmael> hello
[08:58] <Jochen> Can somebody tell me what to do?
[08:58] <hicksy> thanks all, goodbye
[08:58] <coz> ysmael hello
[08:58] <ysmael> do u use MySQL Server
[08:58] <polpak> Jochen: what's the error?
[08:58] <coz> ysmael happy 5th day of the new year
[08:59] <Linfanguin> polpak, what i dont want is a selction at boot-up just load normally ubuntu with the log in screen i have and when my girl log in then she can select kde
[08:59] <ysmael> hapi new yr
[08:59] <polpak> Linfanguin: yes.. But you have windows also
[08:59] <Linfanguin> no
[08:59] <Aven> Madpilot: can't
[08:59] <Linfanguin> i dleeted windows completely
[08:59] <polpak> Linfanguin: oh.
[08:59] <Aven> forgot my nickname pass
[08:59] <ysmael> what mysql version will i download for Ubuntu
[09:00] <Linfanguin> im a full blown linux-still ignorant to it but learning
[09:00] <polpak> Linfanguin: then just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the windows section
[09:00] <odat> Linfanguin, you have to use the login screen
[09:00] <polpak> Linfanguin: just make a backup first
[09:00] <polpak> odat: no you don't
[09:00] <polpak> odat: but that's not what his problem is
[09:00] <Madpilot> Aven: join #ubuntu-offtopic, then, it's quiet right now
[09:00] <Linfanguin> i did a clean install of ubuntu so all i have right now loading is ubuntu-thats how i want it to be
[09:00] <odat> polpak, doesn't he want the option to select kde over gnome when his girlfriend is on
[09:00] <odat> ?
[09:00] <polpak> odat: yes, but he has that afaik
[09:01] <polpak> odat: he wants to stop the grub prompt
[09:01] <Linfanguin> exactly
[09:01] <odat> polpak, ahhhh k thats what i get for coming in the conversation late lol
[09:01] <polpak> odat: which is why he needs to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:01] <polpak> Linfanguin: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst file?
[09:01] <garry> I just set the delay to zero so I don't have to stare at my bootloader.
[09:02] <polpak> garry: yep
[09:02] <Linfanguin> no grub -straight into ubuntu usplash-my log in screen-i will load to ubuntu-when my girl gets oon she selects-kubuntu from the sessions
[09:02] <Linfanguin> polpak, ok one sec
[09:02] <SCMark> anyone know how to get rid of the logout fade effect?
[09:03] <Linfanguin> it says permission denied so i have to log in under root i guess?
[09:03] <garry> Not me sorry ScMark.
[09:03] <ilba7r> !dmix
[09:03] <ubotu> I guess dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:03] <polpak> Linfanguin: just cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:03] <viscount> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21924
[09:03] <Jochen> polpak: A new window appears, telling me that he won't be able to commit changes.
[09:03] <blue-frog> Linfanguin, it seems to me u have automatic login, no? in that case get rid of it, so anyone will be able to choose whatever kde or gnome at login screen
[09:03] <techone> hmm so synaptic says that the latest version of firefox is installed but I cant run it , when I click on the fox icon at the top it starts and then disappears without complaint
[09:04] <polpak> Jochen: try using it command line and see what the error is
[09:04] <Kr0ntab> heya folks....
[09:04] <Kr0ntab> anyone else using initng?
[09:04] <ilba7r> techone type firefox in a terminal and see what is the message you get
[09:04] <Linfanguin> i have to type in my name and password at login-im trying to do a "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop" but it says (13 permission denied)....E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:04] <Linfanguin> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:05] <polpak> blue-frog: no he just doesn't want the grub delay.. He keeps talking about kde and his girlfriend, but afaik the login is working the way he wants
[09:05] <Hobbsee> Linfanguin: stick sudo in front of that
[09:05] <polpak> Linfanguin: you have to sudo
[09:05] <Kr0ntab> !initng
[09:05] <ubotu> Kr0ntab: Are you on ritalin?
[09:05] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[09:05] <blue-frog> Linfanguin, sudo apt-get...
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Linfanguin, Sorry, I left that part out before.
[09:06] <techone> techone@dhcppc11:~$ firefox
[09:06] <techone> (firefox-bin:7627): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[09:06] <techone>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[09:06] <techone> what the hell is that
[09:06] <Linfanguin> Hobbsee, polpak,bluefrog-Password:
[09:06] <Linfanguin> sudo: /boot/grub/menu.lst: command not found
[09:06] <Linfanguin> frank@Ubuntu:~$
[09:06] <techone> I wonder if perhaps I need a reinstall
[09:06] <Anssi_> Sound problems. Can I ask: my lspci says "Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97" but dmesg has nothing about audio, sound or multimedia. Is this supposed to be so? This is a Fujitsu laptop.
[09:06] <polpak> Linfanguin: ..... huh??
[09:06] <polpak> Linfanguin: ok deep breath =)
[09:07] <Hobbsee> Linfanguin: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:07] <techone> im trying to help alvyn figure out what happened to his ubuntu isntall and hwo to fix it for good.
[09:07] <n3x>  Can Anyone help with : Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk - Lilo related Issue
[09:07] <ilba7r> Linfanguin, it sudo /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:07] <XaXXon> bah.  my laptop's wireless isn't supported :(
[09:07] <Linfanguin> ok i got something do you want me to post it here or pastebin?
[09:07] <techone> he wants me to put XP back on the box which would just suck
[09:07] <polpak> pastebin
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> Linfanguin, If it's more than two or three lines, pastebin.
[09:08] <Fujitsu> techone: YEah, XP is a Bad Thing(tm)
[09:08] <Linfanguin> ok one sec
[09:08] <LightShear> lol (tm)
[09:09] <polpak> techone: just burn the XP cd's. Then he won't be tempted by the ploys of the Evil One (tm)
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> techone: Dual-boot here, but only in theory; I think I've actually booted XP once in the last couple of months, and that was because I had neglected to get libdvdcss2, and didn't want to take the time to when a friends was here to watch a movie.
[09:09] <polpak> tonyyarusso: lol
[09:09] <Linfanguin> i posted everything on the screen just to make sure i did not miss nothing-is under the name linuxfanaticguin
[09:09] <blue-frog> Linfanguin, what kind of install do you have, server? apparently u'd better install normal ubuntu, get a grip on it and after a while install server if u have a need for it and know how how linux works
[09:10] <Anssi_> To repeat my question: is it ok if an integrated motherboard device is on "lspci" but not on "dmesg", or is this a signal of an error condition?
[09:10] <techone> ok XP is bad but how do I fix firefox
[09:10] <polpak> Linfanguin: url ?
[09:10] <Linfanguin> polpak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6636
[09:10] <n3x> Anssi_ if its not on dmesg chances are it isnt installed
[09:10] <n3x> Anssi_: Driver isnt installed
[09:10] <garry> n3x that means that the lilo is installed in the mbr of a hard disk that is not the one that the machine will boot from. Thats a problem if you don't have a boot loader, but ok if you use a boot loader on the first disk.
[09:10] <polpak> Linfanguin: ok, just change the timeout to 0 and save the file
[09:11] <techone> ok when I installed this box it was kernel 2.6.5 but now here is also 2.6.10 and 2.6.12
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> techone, I don't really know what to do about your error, but have you tried reinstalling the firefox package?
[09:11] <Linfanguin> blue Frog, i have default ubuntu install
[09:11] <techone> could these upgrades have caused conflicts
[09:11] <Anssi_> How can it then be on lspci, I don't see the logic here. How can it be on the pci bus, if kernel never detected it on starup?
[09:11] <n3x> garry theres only 2 disks../dev/hda and hdb.. hda is / hdb is /home ... Ive never had this issue before and lilo is trying to install onto hda
[09:11] <Anssi_> That was for n3x
[09:11] <blue-frog> Linfanguin, then the password asked when sudoing is your password..
[09:12] <topyli> techone: install a metapackage like linux-image-686. it will always depend on the latest kernel and you don't have to worry about kernel updates
[09:12] <odat> anyone know where the synaptic source list is located?
[09:12] <aftertaf> techone:  you have a locales problem, my guess is that it isnt limited to firefox.
[09:12] <techone> the guy with this box is complaining that the box keeps crashing and mroe often then when it was XP
[09:12] <n3x> Anssi_: it will only see it if the kernel has a driver for it
[09:12] <polpak> Anssi_: lspci just scans the bus afaik, it doesn't mean that the kernel drivers were loaded for the device
[09:12] <ilba7r> odat /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:12] <techone> topyli, how does this metapackage scenario work
[09:12] <aftertaf> techone:  what is actually crashing? specific soft? or everything? or the system?
[09:12] <techone> is there a doc somewhere I can read up on
[09:12] <aftertaf> !metapackage
[09:12] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[09:12] <topyli> techone: metapackaes have no files but dependencies
[09:13] <techone> ah
[09:13] <Linfanguin> o.k i removed 3 and typed in 0-im looking for the save function but i dont see it? is it writeOut?
[09:13] <ilba7r> odat,  synaptic is just a front end for apt
[09:13] <topyli> techone: oh, look at ubotu's explanation ^
[09:13] <polpak> Linfanguin: yes
[09:13] <polpak> Linfanguin: the ^ means CTRL
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> When using VNC, how do you scale the screen to fit without scrollbars within the bounds of your taskbar and panel?
[09:13] <polpak> Linfanguin: so writeout would be CTRL-O
[09:13] <garry> n3x whats on each disk, which disk do you want your machine to boot from, and you might wnat to check to see if the bios thinks has the drives reversed. I've seen that happen, were my machine would try booting the /hdb1.
[09:13] <dabaR__> !win me
[09:13] <ubotu> dabaR__: Not a clue
[09:13] <Linfanguin> and then i do append right?
[09:13] <odat> ilba7r, yea bad choice of words
[09:13] <Anssi_> polpak thx, now I see the logic pci devices can be listed an identified with some globally registered codes, even if there are no drivers?
[09:13] <topyli> Linfanguin: so, on a intel box you want perhaps linux-image-686, on an amd box linux-image-k7 perhaps
[09:14] <n3x> Default install, onto hda.. the df -h shows it as hda
[09:14] <polpak> Linfanguin: append??
[09:14] <techone> aftertaf, well im told using firefox then scrolling the mouse a lot, openoffice was crashing on saves but he kept saving every two lines because of it
[09:14] <n3x> what could possibly cause it to think its switched?
[09:14] <polpak> Linfanguin: no, you just hit enter
[09:14] <Linfanguin> is that all i have to do (cntrl-0) nothing else?
[09:14] <polpak> Linfanguin: CTRL-O will prompt you for the name to write
[09:14] <polpak> Linfanguin: hit enter
[09:14] <dabaR__> to save, ya, Linfanguin
[09:14] <polpak> Linfanguin: then hit CTRL-X
[09:14] <Linfanguin> cool
[09:15] <dabaR__> then ctrl+x exits
[09:15] <blue-frog> techone, didn't alvyn have a 386 in the first place, then changed to 686. wasn't it working perfectly with 386?
[09:15] <Linfanguin> cool
[09:15] <polpak> Linfanguin: now, to set up KDE
[09:15] <Linfanguin> now to get kubuntu installed
[09:15] <Linfanguin> hahaha
[09:15] <polpak> Linfanguin: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <techone> aftertaf, and then the screen settings were some screwed up 640x480 and 60 hz but squwiggly
[09:15] <garry> sometimes it will switch if a cable is iffy, or like yesterday a fellow had forgot to plug in hda and the bios switched the hdb to be the drive to boot from.
[09:15] <techone> actually it all apears to be 386
[09:15] <aftertaf> techone:  is it an nvidia card?
[09:16] <Morg> How do you create a subdomain, e.g. foo.bar.com
[09:16] <n3x> garry its definany detecting hda and hdb
[09:16] <n3x> i will switch the cable...
[09:16] <techone> Asus AVX on board everything VIA - S3 graphics
[09:16] <n3x> sec
[09:16] <aftertaf> techone:  for the kernel, grab the metapackage that is for the processor (k7 / 686) and you can also remove the older ones if you want
[09:16] <Linfanguin> ok one sec-after i do sudo it will automatically install?
[09:16] <dabaR__> Morg: do you have a domain?
[09:16] <Morg> dabaR_: Yes.
[09:16] <polpak> Linfanguin: it might prompt you for a Y/N type deal
[09:16] <polpak> Linfanguin:  but yes
[09:16] <Morg> Does it require anything beyond modifying the Apache configuration?
[09:16] <polpak> Morg: probably DNS also
[09:17] <aftertaf> Morg:  dns domain
[09:17] <dabaR__> well, ya, Morg, your domain has to have a DNS server set up.
[09:17] <hermies> mmm this computer is on breezy but the packages seem out of date, I've done aptitude update etc but ... for example ffox is still 1.07 instead of 1.5 and synaptic seems out of date 0.57.4
[09:17] <techone> ok this cpu is sempron 2200+ at 1500Mhz abd 32 bit not 64 bit
[09:17] <dabaR__> And that DNS server would then hold records what computer is what name. name.domain.org
[09:17] <Morg> OK, and then what do I need to do in Apache?
[09:17] <polpak> hermies: firefox 1.5 isn't in breezy
[09:17] <Anssi_> polpak and n3x, here follows my list of *snd* modules, is this ok, when lspci says "Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97...":  snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc
[09:17] <hermies> polpak, eh?
[09:17] <aftertaf> is sempron a 64bit chip?
[09:17] <garry> n3x i it boots, than its all good. if it don't check the drive order header under the bios boot menu, there will be two headers, boot priority and hard drives. It the hard drives and then the boot priority you might want to verify.
[09:18] <blue-frog> hermies, ubuntu updates don't specially applications updates
[09:18] <dabaR__> Morg: apache is a web server. it listens to port 80 on a computer it is set up on. unless you change the port, off course.
[09:18] <blue-frog> hermies, ubuntu updates don't specially follow applications updates
[09:18] <n3x> ok its booting back up now garry
[09:18] <dabaR__> Morg: that means, it has nothing to do with DNS.
[09:18] <hermies> oh...I thought my ubuntu box at home had 1.5 :| odd...
[09:18] <n3x> not with the new lilo tho
[09:18] <MrKeuner> hi, why cannot fetchmailconf be installed? or is it just me?
[09:18] <polpak> hermies: they cannot update firefox in breezy because it'd break too many dependancies
[09:18] <dabaR__> Morg: you would install apache on the computer, then point your dns server to that computer.
[09:18] <polpak> hermies: firefox 1.5 will be in dapper
[09:18] <techone> aftertaf, doing some research I confirmed that essentially everything before athlon 2200+ is 32bit and some 2200+ are 64 bit and basically everything after that is 64 bit
[09:18] <garry> n3x cool, if it boots fine, that all is good. ")
[09:18] <hermies> polpak, ...right :| so memory leaks for me!
[09:19] <polpak> hermies: yeah.. memory is cheap though =p
[09:19] <dabaR__> MrKeuner: do you have universe enabled?
[09:19] <n3x> garry: Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk
[09:19] <hermies> lol :P
[09:19] <n3x> thats when i run lilo
[09:19] <polpak> hermies: still better than IE
[09:19] <Linfanguin> wow thanks alot for everything-is installing
[09:19] <Morg> dabaR_: I'm aware of all this, except I was under the impression that you could have multiple subdomains using the same server.
[09:19] <n3x> garry the system is actually booted..
[09:19] <dabaR__> Morg: you could, ya.
[09:19] <hermies> so what was that arrogent user paying me out for using debian for only last week in this channel saying ubuntu was more upto date *glares*
[09:19] <rhythminmind> would i want to use a RAID or a LVM setup for a 4 disc sata ftp server storage and why?
[09:19] <Morg> dabaR_: So thats my question: How?
[09:19] <n3x> garry problem is when i run lilo to update the kernel
[09:20] <polpak> hermies: ubuntu stable is more up to date than debian stable
[09:20] <dabaR__> Morg: read the apache manual, or ask at #apache, if noone knows here. it is called virtual servers, afaik.
[09:20] <Linfanguin> now to get my wpa working :}-i will research this
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> When using VNC, how do you scale the screen to fit without scrollbars within the bounds of your taskbar and panel?
[09:20] <hermies> polpak, lol :P
[09:20] <aftertaf> techone:  is the pc on breezy? has anything else been installed or compiled on it, or any backports installed?
[09:20] <n3x> garry Checking bios stuff now
[09:20] <polpak> hermies: and dapper is just around the corner
[09:20] <hermies> polpak, is there an equivilant to unstable/sid
[09:20] <hermies> ?
[09:20] <polpak> hermies: breezy
[09:20] <rhythminmind> lvm or raid?
[09:20] <hermies> 2.14 isn't released for months
[09:20] <polpak> hermies: err dapper
[09:21] <hermies> so one can run dapper? isn't that more like debian experimental though?
[09:21] <polpak> hermies: dapper flight 2 was just released
[09:21] <hermies> ah okay :D
[09:21] <Morg> dabaR_: I thought this was #apache damn it. Ubuntu IRC must have sent me here automatically. I typed in /join #apache and hit enter, so I didn't notice.
[09:21] <hermies> mmm
[09:21] <polpak> hermies: it's still a beta
[09:21] <garry> n3x then the warning is nothing to worry about. I get the same thing because when I update kernel, because my first disk is windows xp and my third is linux and I use system commander to choose what to boot. I would not worry about it, if evertyhing boots fine, than ignore warning, its fine.
[09:21] <aftertaf> rhythminmind:  raid gives you miroring and fault tolerance. If you require this, go for raid
[09:21] <Hobbsee> hermies: anyone can run it - but it could be very very buggy, you never know with the latest lot of upgrades!
[09:21] <rjs> hey
[09:21] <moodog> techone: I take it you're ignoring the XP range of Athlon processors?  Speeds upto 3000+ (I have a 2800+)  all 32 bit.
[09:21] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  spoilsport... ;)
[09:21] <hermies> cause this ram problem is rather annoying...and my mother is complaining (this is her pc) that linux is always crashing (and it was hard enough to get her onto it to start with)
[09:21] <rhythminmind> i just want a stripped setup
[09:22] <dabaR__> Morg: I generally find it is a good idea to do "/topic" for the first message to the channel, altho I always forget to do it...
[09:22] <rhythminmind> no tolerance
[09:22] <Linfanguin> polpak, it says select display manager-i chose gdm instead of kdm is this correct?
[09:22] <rjs> does anyone know how to reset a motherboard???
[09:22] <polpak> Linfanguin: yes
[09:22] <hermies> Hobbsee, lol ...if it was me I'd probably run it... atm my debian box is half sid and half experimental (yay for wanting gnome 2.12 now :P)
[09:22] <rjs> how
[09:22] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: well, i dont really like seeing people come in here and whine, expecting it all to work first go, no problems - it is a development release, after all!
[09:22] <hermies> rjs, read your manual
[09:22] <dabaR__> rjs: for bios passwords?
[09:22] <rhythminmind> reset jumper lok at the manual
[09:22] <Anssi_> n3x and polpak: aplay -l lists my PLAYBACK AUDIO DEVICES seemingly ok, although with a lot of technical details...
[09:22] <aftertaf> Hobbsee:  i like dapper :)
[09:22] <n3x> garry it boots fine but i cant update the kernel to 2.6.15
[09:22] <Hobbsee> hermies: got major changes in X at the moment - you may want to wait
[09:22] <techone> moodog, no im not ignoring those processors I said sempron which is categorically not athlon
[09:22] <hermies> rjs,  sif tell you to change jumpers and you change the wrong one and blame us for blowing up your board
[09:22] <Hobbsee> aftertaf: same here, it's all iv'e booted to for the last while
[09:22] <n3x> Anssi_ does aumix work and see the card?
[09:22] <rjs> i cant get on to my other computer
[09:22] <polpak> hermies: I have the same issue w/ my father in law.. OO keeps dying on his power point presentations...
[09:23] <hermies> Hobbsee, 6.8 > 6.9?
[09:23] <rjs> only some times
[09:23] <hermies> debian did that last week
[09:23] <Hobbsee> not sure
[09:23] <blue-frog> Morg, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO-7.html#ss7.5
[09:23] <blue-frog>  and google for more info, you can install webmin-bind as well...
[09:23] <rjs> and i got to finish putting windows on it
[09:23] <aftertaf> 6.9 already.... getting ready for 7 :)
[09:23] <hermies> polpak, so far my family rather likes linux so win for me...less tech support ^^
[09:23] <hermies> 7 isn't out yet...is it?
[09:23] <n3x> garry: i switched the boot Prior in the bios... Still: Warning: /dev/hda is not on the first disk
[09:23] <aftertaf> nope
[09:23] <polpak> hermies: easier tech support
[09:23] <Linfanguin> is there major diffrences between linux distros? i mean from what i have captured they either run on gnome or kde-the diffrence i have seen is on logo maybe something internal?
[09:23] <garry> Hmm, Oh I see. er the 2.6.15 kernel requires udev .71 at least.
[09:23] <hermies> polpak, that too! "just wait...opening up ssh"
[09:24] <aftertaf> garry:  yep, replaced hotplug
[09:24] <hermies> Linfanguin, not true at all
[09:24] <polpak> Linfanguin: mostly it's just how things are packaged and configured
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> Linfanguin, Pretty much everything can vary.
[09:24] <hermies> also stability and vision/goals of the distro
[09:24] <n3x> garry doesnt explain why i cant write lilo to hda
[09:24] <coz> Linfanguin linux is linux, different flavors like ice cream
[09:24] <morphix> hrm.
[09:24] <Linfanguin> ok now it went back my user name@ubuntu does that mean is done?
[09:24] <polpak> Linfanguin: yes
[09:24] <dabaR__> coz: you mean GNU/Linux?
[09:24] <Linfanguin> i been reading alot about linux since i made the switch
[09:24] <hermies> coz, or a vat of fat and colouring for lfs users :P
[09:24] <techone> aftertaf, ok I was looking to confirm if this is breezy
[09:24] <aftertaf> those that are having stability problems with OO &/or firefox......    did you install anything non standard or it it from a breezy cd ?
[09:24] <garry> say n3x the warning isn't the reason the kenel is not installing, somthing else. Oh did you try sudo before doing the install of lilo?
[09:24] <hermies> Linfanguin, are you using ubuntu?
[09:24] <techone> and about ubuntu doesnt say
[09:24] <Linfanguin> and i dont think i will be going back to windows when using a laptop
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> Linfanguin, They'll all have a cone, and a cold dairy-based product on top., beyond that it's all up in the air.
[09:25] <n3x> garry i am root
[09:25] <polpak> aftertaf: default from breezy
[09:25] <coz> linux is linux
[09:25] <Linfanguin> hermies, yes i am
[09:25] <hermies> Linfanguin, good choice :)
[09:25] <dabaR__> coz: linux is the kernel
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> I like the analogy coz.
[09:25] <morphix> how the heck do i install mplayer or gmplayer.. according to apt there IS NO installation package for it :/
[09:25] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: but in Gentoo, you have to roll your own cone and milk the cow yourself! :P
[09:25] <dabaR__> tonyyarusso: ha
[09:25] <techone> where to confirm this is breezy and not hoary
[09:25] <Linfanguin> i know my laptop is happy-no more windows
[09:25] <aftertaf> morphix:  multiverse
[09:25] <coz> yes  the rest is fowers and ice cream
[09:25] <aftertaf> !repositories
[09:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[09:25] <hermies> I recommend all new linux users use ubuntu :D ...they tend to stay with linux, then when they get used to it I get them to switch to debian
[09:25] <coz> flowers
[09:25] <odat> thanks ubotu lol
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> Linfanguin, Why Windows for the laptop?
[09:25] <hermies> techone, uname -a
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, :)  Nice.
[09:26] <Linfanguin> no i wont be using windows for my laptop at all
[09:26] <polpak> morphix: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#sect-music-and-movies
[09:26] <garry> n3x ok, is this a ubuntu linux you have the kernel on? You might have to run liloconfig. Did you also replace the udev part as well as the hotplug?
[09:26] <hermies> Linfanguin, linux runs better on my sisters laptop :)
[09:26] <morphix> i have multiverse opened.
[09:26] <techone> uname -a did not say breezy or hoary
[09:26] <Linfanguin> my desktop i have windows media center 2005 linked with the 360 so thats a must..but for my laptop linux it is
[09:26] <polpak> morphix: do you have universe?
[09:26] <hermies> techone, what kernel did it have?
[09:26] <polpak> !info mplayer
[09:26] <hermies> or...
[09:26] <hermies> silly ubuntu
[09:26] <dabaR__> morphix: search for mplayer. apt-cache search mplayer
[09:26] <Linfanguin> and now that networking is easier then before-i say...windows WHO?
[09:26] <morphix> it finds it
[09:26] <dabaR__> polpak: it is in multiverse
[09:26] <hermies> why doesn't uname -a tell people what release they have people!? *files it as a bug*
[09:27] <morphix> BUT when i try to get what it tells me
[09:27] <dabaR__> morphix: install the one for your arch.
[09:27] <n3x> udevinfo, version 076
[09:27] <morphix> it says there is no installation candidate
[09:27] <techone> Linux dhcppc11 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> techone: cat /etc/issue tells you the Ubuntu release name.
[09:27] <Toma-> hermies: because it never has?
[09:27] <n3x> garry ^^
[09:27] <hermies> Toma-, how silly!
[09:27] <techone> ah
[09:27] <n3x> yea
[09:27] <dabaR__> morphix: mplayer is not a package, that is right, mplayer-386|k7 and so on are packages
[09:27] <polpak> hermies: that's what /etc/issue is for?
[09:27] <techone> I was looking for /etc/release version and such
[09:27] <Toma-> hermies: if u say so.
[09:27] <hermies> lol :P
[09:27] <blue-frog> hermies, lsb_release -a
[09:27] <morphix> yeh i know
[09:27] <hermies> :P
[09:27] <morphix> i do sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[09:27] <techone> the thing that throws me some about uname -a is that both 386 and 686 is listed
[09:27] <morphix> and it still says no install for it
[09:28] <techone> breezy badger 5.10
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, What's lsb stand for?
[09:28] <polpak> morphix: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[09:28] <coz> morphix try automatix
[09:28] <dabaR__> morphix: do you find mplayer-386 as a package? did you update?
[09:28] <Linfanguin> one last question before i head out to see kubuntu? when i stream a video or song online using firefox is choppy how can i fix this?
[09:28] <polpak> !automatix
[09:28] <MrKeuner> dabaR_ yes universe is enabled
[09:28] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:28] <morphix> E: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate
[09:28] <garry> ok, sounds ok there. So you have two hard drives. What OS is on the first drive and what is the partition, what os is on the second drive and is it ntfs on ether? Lilo has trouble dealing with ntfs parts.
[09:28] <morphix> blargh
[09:28] <morphix> ok 'sec
[09:28] <Toma-> techone: its telling you you have an i686, where youre kernel is the 386 release
[09:28] <techone> shouldnt it be either 386 or 686 but nto both
[09:28] <coz> polpak automatix
[09:29] <techone> or rather isnt it better to be the same
[09:29] <garry> lol, My keyboard hates me.
[09:29] <Madpilot> coz: please don't recommend that...
[09:29] <coz> garry I understand
[09:29] <Toma-> techone: no. 386 is compatible with 386
[09:29] <Madpilot> !tell coz about automatix
[09:29] <Toma-> errr 686
[09:29] <coz> Madpilot why not
[09:29] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, linux standard base
[09:29] <Toma-> automatix is bad mojo
[09:29] <dabaR__> hehe
[09:29] <Anssi_> n3x, aumix -q lists: pcm 81, 81
[09:29] <Anssi_> cd 81, 81, P
[09:29] <Anssi_> pcm2 71, 71
[09:29] <Anssi_>  and lots of others with "zero, zero". I can run it yes, but what should I do there? Sliding the volume back and forth?
[09:29] <morphix> whats pastebins url again.. i forgot it .
[09:29] <coz> Not true
[09:29] <Anssi_>  and lots of others with "zero, zero". I can run it yes, but what should I do there? Sliding the volume back and forth?
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> techone, Toma-: I had the install put on 386, and was told later I should have 686 for my hardware.
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, Ah.
[09:29] <polpak> !easyubuntu
[09:29] <ubotu> I heard easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[09:30] <dabaR__> morphix: paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:30] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: its not a nessecity
[09:30] <garry> n3x ok, sounds ok there. So you have two hard drives. What OS is on the first drive and what is the partition, what os is on the second drive and is it ntfs on ether? Lilo has trouble dealing with ntfs parts.
[09:30] <coz> I have yet to see any of the machines i have installed automatix on break in any way
[09:30] <Anssi_> n3x: aumix -q gives me pcm 81, 81
[09:30] <Anssi_> cd 81, 81, P
[09:30] <Anssi_> pcm2 71, 71
[09:30] <Anssi_>  and lots of others with "zero, zero". I can run it yes, but what should I do there? Sliding the volume back and forth?
[09:30] <polpak> coz: if you must recommend those "do everything" scripts recommend easyubuntu
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, What's the advantage/difference with the 686 one for me then?
[09:30] <dabaR__> !repeat
[09:30] <ubotu> [repeat]  Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://www.ubuntuforums.org while you wait.
[09:30] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: about 1-2 seconds off your boot time
[09:30] <polpak> !patience
[09:30] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[09:30] <n3x> garry: remove hdb .. lilo installs.. booted back up now into 2.6.15 .. Thanks for the help
[09:30] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, none u are aware of
[09:31] <xae> okay guys, I finally got ubuntu installed and working... now how do I get my windows to work once again :)
[09:31] <coz> polpak my feelings exactly patience!!
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, That's it?
[09:31] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: yep.
[09:31] <garry> congrats, and welcome.
[09:31] <xae> it begins to boot, but then freezes on load
[09:31] <soulslayer> hello everybody
[09:31] <Toma-> the other differences youll need to put a stopwatch to
[09:31] <dabaR__> xae: it should just work. did you have windows on the first hard drive, and the first partition?
[09:31] <n3x> Linux excalibur 2.6.15superfly #1 SMP Thu Jan 5 15:08:10 WST 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:31] <garry> n3x ^^
[09:31] <n3x> :)
[09:31] <n3x> yep saw it
[09:31] <hermies> later all...off to dinner (that I don't have to cook :D)
[09:31] <dabaR__> heh
[09:32] <xae> dabaR__: yes, however I had to change the boot order in the bios, so it thinks "ubuntu = hd0" and windows = "hd1"   (even tho windoiws is on hda, and linux is on hdb)
[09:32] <soulslayer> i just installed kubuntu, i need to be root, but when i use su, the system ask me for a password that the installation never asked me
[09:32] <polpak> ubotu tell soulslayer about sudo
[09:32] <blue-frog> soulslayer, u don't need to be root, use sudo
[09:32] <moodog> soulslayer: why do you need to be root?
[09:32] <Toma-> tonyyarusso: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25282.html
[09:32] <morphix> dabaR__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6637 -- actually i dont have multiverse in there... :/
[09:32] <dabaR__> morphix: add.
[09:32] <Anssi_> hermies, that's a classical case, that uname tells software about the binary environment, which is sama for all distribution running th same kernel.
[09:32] <techone> ok so 386 shold be fine on my 686 hardware ;^)
[09:32] <sampan> root is for trees!  save the trees!  use sudo!
[09:33] <Toma-> techone: indeedy
[09:33] <Madpilot> !tell soulslayer about root
[09:33] <xae> rootnoverify  (hd1, 0) ... chainloader +1 ... makeactive             freezes after that
[09:33] <garry> lol, I love it sampan
[09:33] <moodog> soulslayer: you could always sudo /bin/bash if you want a root shell
[09:33] <xae> replace ... with \n
[09:33] <techone> is there a utility to do some form of system integrity check??
[09:33] <Toma-> A test under gimp >> "With kernel 386 it took 38.5 seconds to apply it, while with kernel 686 it took 39 seconds."
[09:33] <sampan> garry  lol -- :X  i coined it myself, not to toot my own horn too much! ;x
[09:33] <dabaR__> morphix: why use those mirrors?
[09:33] <xae> is there a ... gui for editing the boot loader in ubuntu or something?
[09:33] <garry> Just as good as the saying I saw that said "Too many ways to shoot self in foot."
[09:33] <soulslayer> oh, tank you so much guys
[09:33] <dabaR__> xae: it is a file, if you have a gui editor, you can edit it. the file is at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:34] <garry> sampan :)
[09:34] <xae> dabaR__: yes i know, I was wondering if there was an automated tool available =\
[09:34] <polpak> Toma-: it's possible that particular operation couldn't be better optimized
[09:34] <dabaR__> xae: why did you have to switch it in bios?
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> Thanks for the link Toma-.
[09:34] <xae> dabaR__: my mbr is messed up on hda (windows)
[09:34] <sampan> garry, we should write promotional materials for ubuntu!  we could change the world with our slogans!
[09:34] <morphix> dabaR_, cause i am in australia.. those mirror's use pipe which is totally free towards my internet connection being that i have a quota
[09:34] <dabaR__> xae: you should have installed grub into mbr, and it would have done it.
[09:35] <garry> say sampan hehe, yep.
[09:35] <dabaR__> morphix: sweet. added multiverse?
[09:35] <xae> dabaR__: I tried that option, no luck
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> And with that, I must be going, to get some sleep.  Bye all!
[09:35] <morphix> no
[09:35] <xae> dabaR__: a multitude of errors occured with that
[09:35] <Toma-> polpak: true. theres a few other calculation tests on that link that show the 686 kernel to be 4% faster with mysql
[09:35] <dabaR__> morphix: do you need help?
[09:35] <morphix> what exactly do i need to add?
[09:35] <morphix> yeh.. kinda
[09:35] <Toma-> nothing noticable id say
[09:35] <odat> morphix, just use this source list
[09:36] <odat> replace your sources.list with this one get it done quick
[09:36] <sas171> hi, there was a command to make install throw and get .deb package, how was it going?
[09:36] <dabaR__> morphix: you need to put a # on the first line. on the next line with text, add "universe multiverse", save and close the file, then sudo apt-get update. the first line is the CD, so comment that out is best I think.
[09:36] <dabaR__> morphix: comment out being that # I told you to put.
[09:36] <morphix> yeh.
[09:36] <dabaR__> morphix: and when you are adding those two, no ""
[09:37] <dabaR__> and add those two at the end, off course.
[09:37] <morphix> yup.
[09:37] <odat> morphix, did you get the list i sent ya
[09:37] <dabaR__> sas171: search for debian maintainer guide on google.
[09:37] <xae> dabaR__: "Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7"
[09:37] <morphix> how do i change the 'size' of windows, etc on here... i hate this.. everything is hell chunky
[09:38] <xae> dabaR__: then it... freezes up (well, the _ is still blinking)
[09:38] <Lichte> does anyone here package GNUstep for Ubuntu ?
[09:38] <dabaR__> xae: that is over my head, mostly.
[09:38] <xae> dabaR__: ahh k =\
[09:38] <xae> any grub gurus here?
[09:38] <Toma-> morphix: smaller window borders?
[09:38] <morphix> Toma-, yeh
[09:38] <morphix> and smaller
[09:38] <Toma-> i saw that somehwre. hang on
[09:38] <morphix> 'taskbars'
[09:38] <morphix> or whatever they are called lol.
[09:38] <Anssi_> Why does Firefox not support saving sessions? Is that really so, or is there an option?
[09:38] <polpak> morphix: fistly are you using the right resolution?
[09:39] <dabaR__> xae: I do not think there is a grub way to do it. I would reinstall everything on the proper hard disk, windows has to be on first partition of first hard disk for it to load. I even think this problem is related to windows, not to grub.
[09:39] <polpak> morphix: or firstly rather
[09:39] <morphix> i'm using 1152x1024
[09:39] <dabaR__> xae: but again, I could be wrong.
[09:39] <morphix> err
[09:39] <sas171> Anssi_: there is an extension
[09:39] <Toma-> morphix: for the taskbar, right click an empty space and goto properties, should be right there
[09:39] <Linfanguin> ohh man this is so cool im in kubuntu
[09:39] <Linfanguin> wow
[09:39] <Linfanguin> this rocks
[09:39] <morphix> i mean 1152x864*
[09:39] <Anssi_> Thx sas171, I'l look at it!
[09:39] <Linfanguin> but how to setup an account for my girl to use under kubuntu?
[09:39] <polpak> Linfanguin: you should check out xubuntu-desktop if you have a need for speed =)
[09:39] <xae> dabaR__: =\ k (and I dont think it has to be on the first disk, ive had linux on my large drive before / win on small one)
[09:40] <garry> type seven is NTFS
[09:40] <Linfanguin> i looked for the admin but no luck
[09:40] <Linfanguin> xubuntu?
[09:40] <sampan> linfanguin  welcome to the wonderfulness of KDE!  :D  btw, #kubuntu is a smaller chan, but often helpful for kde specific questions
[09:40] <polpak> Linfanguin: um.. I haven't used kubuntu, but in gnome it's system->administration->users & groups
[09:40] <soulslayer> another thing, i need something called kernel_sources to compile, where can i find that??
[09:40] <techone> hhmmm is there any good HD diagnostics utilities
[09:40] <dabaR__> morphix: try a different window border, or a different window manager, I use openbox, which is slick.
[09:40] <polpak> Linfanguin: it uses ICEWM
[09:40] <Linfanguin> xubuntu? whats so diffrent about it
[09:40] <garry> ckfs if I recall.
[09:40] <morphix> yeh i was interested in doing that.. my friend uses openbox
[09:40] <morphix> how do i install openbox?
[09:40] <Toma-> Linfanguin: just make a new user account and let her login. itll create a new environment for her
[09:40] <polpak> Linfanguin: it doesn't use a desktop enviroment (like kde or gnome) so it uses less resources
[09:40] <techone> I can only really figure some hardware issue like HD or powersupply to cause random crashes
[09:41] <garry> but I don't know how good it is.
[09:41] <dabaR__> Linfanguin: add her as a user, in a terminal, that would be "sudo adduser herNameHere"
[09:41] <Toma-> *useradd
[09:41] <dabaR__> Toma-: go see...
[09:41] <Linfanguin> so xubuntu does not have an interface?
[09:41] <polpak> Toma-: adduser is better.. (interactive)
[09:41] <Toma-> holy hats. theyve made 2 of em
[09:41] <polpak> Linfanguin: it does.. just no desktop
[09:42] <soulslayer> and gcc, i dont have a internet connection in linux, beacuse my connection is wifi, where can i find those packages
[09:42] <dabaR__> morphix: as anything else. it is in universe. there are good threads on it on the forum if you search "openbox stormy"
[09:42] <Toma-> im too old fashioned :D
[09:42] <xae> uhm...
[09:42] <xae> i think my comp died :|
[09:42] <soulslayer> i just need to compile ndiswrapper to use my internet connection
[09:42] <Toma-> Linfanguin: forget about xubuntu.
[09:42] <dabaR__> Linfanguin: it is a desktop environment, in fact, even though that guy said it is not. check out the following URL that ubotu will send you to see more.
[09:42] <garry> ouch, what happened xae?
[09:42] <aftertaf> techone:  but if random crashes like that dont occur with win, it could be the installation that is messed up.. maybe even the install cd.
[09:42] <xae> garry: i had to hard boot it because it was frozen while trying to boot windows
[09:43] <morphix> ok thanks.
[09:43] <blue-frog> soulslayer, use ndiswrapper on the cd
[09:43] <xae> garry: and now... its not even powering on (not post'ing)
[09:43] <morphix> i am just trying to 10 things at once.
[09:43] <Linfanguin> ok will be right back
[09:43] <techone> anyone know of decent hardware diagnostics. the mem86+ which comes with ubuntu is only for ram of course
[09:43] <morphix> smaller windows would be nice lol
[09:43] <made> I concur
[09:43] <polpak> morphix: you can also try different themes
[09:43] <xae> garry: never mind, it is just uhh wierd, it just randomly came on
[09:43] <Toma-> morphix: try finding a new smaller theme with Art Manager or gnome-art
[09:43] <dabaR__> morphix: see the forums first, cause they show screenshots. or http://icculus.org/openbox
[09:44] <garry> xae whew. lucky. :)
[09:44] <blue-frog> soulslayer, no need to compile
[09:44] <Toma-> sif openbox
[09:44] <Toma-> :P
[09:44] <garry> xae maybe loose cord.
[09:44] <morphix> sif gnome :P
[09:44] <morphix> chunky p.o.s
[09:44] <dabaR__> what is sif?
[09:44] <made> hello all I'm new to ubuntu.. and linux all in one.. I have about a billion questions but none to ask right now.. just FYI
[09:45] <morphix> sif = as if
[09:45] <Toma-> sif = as if
[09:45] <Toma-> in nerd talk :/
[09:45] <morphix> beat ya :P
[09:45] <dabaR__> made: shoot.
[09:45] <sander> how can I install oidentd or pidentd with apt-get in ubuntu?.. any apt sources I need to add?
[09:45] <Toma-> morphix: why u using gnome then? just use screen.
[09:45] <techone> aftertaf, part of why I put on Edubuntu, actually cause hes a teacher, is because of random nonsense freezes and resets - I ran some hardware diagnostic at the time which came up with no complaints
[09:45] <garry> I remember one time, we could not get a system to boot at work, went through a box of 20 hard drive cables. Turned out all the cables were bad. every one!
[09:45] <soulslayer> blue: No need to compile?????????
[09:45] <morphix> ..?
[09:45] <morphix> isnt screen that detach/retach thing in terminal? lol
[09:46] <blue-frog> soulslayer, not if u use ndiswrapper form the cd
[09:46] <dabaR__> sander: to find out about packages, "/msg ubotu info blah" where blah is the package name.
[09:46] <Toma-> morphix: yep
[09:46] <dabaR__> sander: they are both in universe, btw.
[09:46] <Toma-> hardcore linux'ing :D
[09:46] <morphix> err..? well how could i use that then lol
[09:46] <aftertaf> techone:  memory!   sounds like bad ram. try testing Sim by Sim
[09:46] <soulslayer> ndiswrapper is included in the cd?????
[09:46] <morphix> i am in gnome.. cause its default.
[09:46] <made> I have no questions at the time.. I will compile a good list and then just release them 1 at a time.. just thought I would introduce..
[09:46] <Jowi> hello all
[09:46] <Toma-> coz screen is the least bloated way of managing your system
[09:46] <aftertaf> techone:  i;e. take one out and see if it happens, then swap and try the other one
[09:47] <garry> welcome to Ubuntu
[09:47] <dabaR__> made: awesome
[09:47] <made> thx
[09:47] <aftertaf> Toma-:  screen :] 
[09:47] <Toma-> :P
[09:47] <aftertaf> screen & ssh == remote heaven
[09:47] <dabaR__> hehe
[09:47] <soulslayer> how can i install the packkages to compile, anyway thats important to
[09:48] <blueandwhiteg3> Well, I think I'm coming back to Ubuntu. What's the best way to get a newer/testing/snapshot of ubuntu?
[09:48] <polpak> soulslayer: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:48] <sas171> dabaR_: it was sudo checkinstall, german wiki rules :D
[09:48] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: you could get dapper. but its under heavy development
[09:48] <Toma-> meaning buggy and near broken sometimes
[09:48] <techone> aftertaf, ive run extensive memory test well mem86+ for a dozen hours or so
[09:48] <soulslayer> polpak: do i need internet to do that??
[09:48] <aftertaf> techone:  even so...
[09:48] <aftertaf> techone:  i'd do the physical swapping bit.
[09:49] <techone> hmmm.
[09:49] <aftertaf> techone:  only way to be 100% certain about a hardware item is to remove it ;)
[09:49] <polpak> soulslayer: yes .. I believe so
[09:49] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: The current ubuntu breezy badger is too old. The alsa drivers are too old for my soundcard. VLC has... issues. Etc.
[09:49] <CarlFK> arg... is there some way to disable the "search subdirs" when btlaunchmany doesn't find anything in the current dir?
[09:49] <dabaR__> blueandwhiteg3: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/188 but...it is for testing, like you said. Ya'll been warned.
[09:49] <aftertaf> blueandwhiteg3:  go dapper, but be ready for somethings to be a bit rocky
[09:49] <CarlFK> whopps, wrong channel...
[09:50] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: go ahead. use dapper. just dont expect much help from here if it goes wrong
[09:50] <blueandwhiteg3> Are there any more edgy options with the apt repositories?
[09:50] <morphix> does x-chat have a 'minimize to system tray' like gaim does
[09:50] <dabaR__> blueandwhiteg3: do you have ubuntu installed?
[09:50] <Jowi> soulslayer: as polpak said, other packages may be needed by the app itself. But if you ./configure it, the software will tell you what's missing. Build-essential is on the cd
[09:50] <Toma-> morphix: yeh, alltray can work
[09:50] <blueandwhiteg3> dabaR_: I had 5.10 installed earlier. But I left it to try something else because I wanted newer stuff...
[09:50] <aftertaf> morphix:  yes it does. xchat systray package i think
[09:50] <dabaR__> blueandwhiteg3: try installing from that page, and then just update regularly, and you will be up to date as up to date gets.
[09:51] <morphix> where and how do i get them?
[09:51] <Jowi> !info build-essential
[09:51] <soulslayer> ohhh, i understand, thanks
[09:51] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: why dont you stick with something and just learn how to compile from source?
[09:51] <aftertaf> morphix:  synaptic...
[09:51] <soulslayer> im gonna try, ill go back
[09:52] <made> well I guess one q I could ask.  How do I install/run the 3dchess package? I thought I had installed the package from Synaptic Package Manager, but I can't seem to find it in the applications menu
[09:53] <Toma-> made: easy way is it hit alt + f2, then type 3dchess
[09:54] <dabaR__> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight2 nice stuff...
[09:54] <dabaR__> unstable as heck too, probably.
[09:54] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: I was trying the theory that I could keep everything in a nice tidy package management system.
[09:55] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: you can. if you instead use checkinstall instead of make install, it'll add the fake package to your apt list
[09:55] <dabaR__> made: you may have to run it from the terminal, or use the application menu editor to add it after you figure out what the command to run it is.
[09:55] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: so, like ./configure; make; checkinstall ?
[09:55] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: thats it
[09:56] <blueandwhiteg3> and checkinstall totally replaces the functionality of make install?
[09:56] <Toma-> !checkinstall
[09:56] <ubotu> checkinstall is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[09:56] <made> Cannot display location 'file://3dchess'
[09:56] <dabaR__> that guy has an answer for everything.
[09:56] <dabaR__> made: apps>accessor>terminal
[09:56] <aftertaf> made:  type in a console
[09:56] <Toma-> yeh. makes a list of files its going to install, asks you for a description, then installs it as according to the programs makefile
[09:56] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[09:58] <made> no dice
[09:58] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: Are there any additional repositories I could add to my sources.list to give me a newer or wider software selection?
[09:58] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: not really.
[09:59] <Pygi> ubotu tell blueandwhiteg3 about Seveas
[09:59] <Toma-> if you want bleeding edge, you have to climb up the knife yourself :)
[09:59] <garry> LOL
[09:59] <aftertaf> !repositories
[09:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[10:01] <aftertaf> hi thoreauputic
[10:01] <Madpilot> Toma-: nice way to put it :P
[10:01] <aftertaf> hi Hoxzer
[10:01] <thoreauputic> hi aftertaf :)
[10:02] <blueandwhiteg3> Oops. I'm back. I'm looking at sources.list that I just got..
[10:02] <blueandwhiteg3> ah ha, I see that adds a nice selection of repositories!
[10:02] <techone> ok whats a good torrent site
[10:02] <Toma-> what sources.list is this?
[10:02] <techone> i can download some isos for a day and see if there are any complaints
[10:03] <aftertaf> Toma-:  THE sources.list
[10:03] <blueandwhiteg3> That's a good question. I got a nice list sent to me by.. somebody
[10:03] <aftertaf> techone:  grab the kubuntu dvd iso ;)
[10:03] <Jowi> Toma-: checkinstall look great. i had no idea that was available
[10:03] <aftertaf> blueandwhiteg3:  from who?
[10:03] <Toma-> Jowi: it really is quite a brilliant idea :)
[10:03] <blueandwhiteg3> I would like to know....
[10:03] <blueandwhiteg3> oh, here it is
[10:03] <blueandwhiteg3> odat
[10:03] <blueandwhiteg3> Thanks odat
[10:03] <aftertaf> blueandwhiteg3:  oh ok.... lol
[10:03] <Jowi> Toma-: absolutely. i'm stunned :-)
[10:04] <odat> blueandwhiteg3, np
[10:04] <orhs_> hey guys i need help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" the driver version of the hardware is 3.0.7.2
[10:04] <blueandwhiteg3> I'm seeing wine, cipherfunk, and something at people.ubuntu.com on the list
[10:05] <Toma-> oooooo auto-apt...
[10:05] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: can you put it up on a pastebin? :D
[10:06] <techone> ubuntu dvd  on the way
[10:06] <techone> now over to iso hunt
[10:06] <blueandwhiteg3> nah, i can do one better than that...
[10:06] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping ping ping ping ping :)
[10:07] <garry> www.kde.org has a binary for kde 3.5 for ubuntu I saw it today, not brave enough to try it today. Too sleepy.
[10:07] <blueandwhiteg3> http://zinkconsulting.com/sources.list
[10:07] <blueandwhiteg3> Is that final ./ supposed to be on there?
[10:07] <Jowi> Toma-: i've got the "./configure, make, make install" burnt firmly into my brain. I hope I will remember to use it!
[10:07] <Toma-> yep
[10:08] <orhs_> i've seen that only ver 1.0 of the 3com OfficeConnect wireless 11g pc card's is supported by the version 1.0 and 2.0 but ver 3.0 is not mentioned
[10:08] <Toma-> Jowi: same! i sometimes run make install then start cursing 1/2 way thru, after remembering :D
[10:09] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: oh, crap, when my client crashed a few minutes ago, there went the log with the command to make a faux-package
[10:10] <garry> Yep, sometimes my memory is like an IOU written on an ice cube in summertime.
[10:10] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: can you re-poost it?
[10:10] <DarkRitual> Hello world
[10:10] <Toma-> that apt list?
[10:11] <Jowi> hello DarkRitual
[10:11] <DarkRitual> Hello Jowi  :)
[10:11] <odat> blueandwhiteg3, did you get to use those yet?
[10:11] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: No, the command so I can make a package out of my install. You know, ./configure, make, <thatspecialsecretcommand>
[10:11] <DarkRitual> su root aint working -.-"
[10:12] <orhs_> i think my live cd is takeing my wifi card...
[10:12] <Toma-> checkinstall
[10:12] <Jowi> DarkRitual: sudo -i
[10:12] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: thanks!!
[10:12] <blueandwhiteg3> odat: I am currently loading Ubuntu and will try it out soon. Why is there a ./ on the last line of sources.list?
[10:12] <Jowi> ubotu, tell DarkRitual about sudo
[10:12] <odat> there isn't one
[10:12] <blueandwhiteg3> odat: is there a reason you left off seveas?
[10:13] <odat> lolol
[10:13] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: its saying the directory to look at is ./ meaning to stay in the cwd
[10:13] <odat> that is how its listed
[10:13] <odat> blueandwhiteg3, unreliable
[10:13] <gerald-volt> how do i get mplayer firefox to play .mov stream videos
[10:13] <Seveas> hm?
[10:13] <Seveas> odat, what's unreliable?
[10:14] <Toma-> now youre in for it :D
[10:14] <odat> seveas
[10:14] <zorba64> gerald-volt: mozilla-mplayer should do it
[10:14] <blueandwhiteg3> I see the whole family is here :)
[10:15] <orhs_> hey guys i need help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" the driver version of the hardware is 3.0.7.2
[10:16] <jahshua> how can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files ?
[10:16] <Seveas> odat, ?
[10:16] <orhs_> ubuntu finds it but it takes ages to activate
[10:16] <Toma-> tell orhs_ about wireless
[10:16] <Toma-> err
[10:16] <Toma-> ubotu: tell orhs_ about wireless
[10:16] <Seveas> odat, care to elaborate on that?
[10:16] <Seveas> I'm very much insulted....
[10:17] <Toma-> i use your repo Seveas <3
[10:17] <DarkRitual> thnx Jowi
[10:17] <Jowi> np DarkRitual
[10:17] <DarkRitual> I am doing massive things
[10:17] <orhs_> and when its activated it gets de-atctivated later
[10:17] <Seveas> Toma-, that's not the point here as far as I see, he thinks I'm unreliable...
[10:17] <DarkRitual> my entire network got cracked after using 2 days windows XP and bank creditcards etc got stolen
[10:17] <odat> Seveas, i tried those repositories and they are usually down
[10:17] <Seveas> And i really want to know why
[10:17] <Toma-> Seveas: i agree. hes off his rocker i think
[10:17] <DarkRitual> Now i am interigating my self from fedora to Ubuntu :)
[10:18] <jahshua> anyone know how can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files ?
[10:18] <Seveas> odat, ah you mean my repo, try a mirror. The main box is my playground - the mirrors ARE reliable
[10:18] <Jowi> DarkRitual: wow, serious stuff man
[10:18] <techone> ok so running a bunch of bit torrent downloads should test out some drive activity for sure.
[10:18] <garry> ubotu: telll garry about wireless
[10:18] <orhs_> and if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength
[10:18] <odat> Seveas, tried the mirrors  same thing
[10:18] <Seveas> odat, and yes, because it's my playground it's unreliable :)
[10:18] <DarkRitual> Jowi, no shit realize: ive only used windows for 2 days and every thing started to go wrong
[10:18] <Seveas> odat, never had problems with them...
[10:18] <app> Somebody mentioned an extension, but I can't find one to work with Breezy Firefox 1.0.7: I want X session saving to work with it, or something similar, like Firefoc saving its own windows.
[10:19] <Toma-> odat: ive never had problems with the Seveas mirrors
[10:19] <odat> Seveas, then maybe you could give me a working one
[10:19] <blueandwhiteg3> for anybody who is interested, I tried ubuntu because I was bothered by some things, then i went onto other distros... and guess where I am again. I can't believe the mess I experienced with trying to install debian...
[10:19] <orhs_> ubotu: tell orhs about wireless
[10:19] <Seveas> !tell odat about seveas
[10:19] <Toma-> ubotu: tell orhs_ about wireless
[10:19] <Seveas> read the wikipage, it lists them all, and all are working
[10:19] <orhs_> and if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength
[10:20] <Jowi> DarkRitual: Hope you informed your insurance and bank :)
[10:20] <gerald-volt> hhmm, i installed mplayer-firefox
[10:20] <DarkRitual> Well ive send the full logs to bill gates and with an note "I still think linux is better"
[10:20] <gerald-volt> but I still can't play this file
[10:20] <gerald-volt> i just get a grey screen
[10:20] <gerald-volt> http://www.muchosucko.com/video-rallyracingvideowithtunes.html
[10:20] <DarkRitual> gerald-volt,  did you tried XMMS?
[10:20] <odat> Seveas, yea those are the ones i tried
[10:21] <app> !ntfs
[10:21] <gerald-volt> it's a streaming video
[10:21] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[10:21] <jahshua> blueandwhiteg3: welcome back, i tried to install Debian also with no luck.. but we are probably noobs :) ubuntu _is_ much easier
[10:21] <Seveas> odat, these work fine
[10:21] <DarkRitual> Jowi, inshurance covered everything so i am alright :)
[10:21] <pc22> what other plugins for avi files?
[10:21] <DarkRitual> 2 days seemed to be 19 killing years
[10:21] <DarkRitual> there is an movie player
[10:21] <jahshua> anyone know how can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files ?
[10:21] <DarkRitual> mplayer
[10:22] <pc22> wont
[10:22] <DarkRitual> pc22, Did you tried mplayer?
[10:22] <blueandwhiteg3> jahshua: their stable tree is so old! it doesn't properly support my video or sound...
[10:22] <pc22> yes
[10:22] <DarkRitual> Did it work?
[10:22] <gerald-volt> can someone try this streaminging .mov file on their firefox?
[10:22] <alainlucas> How to relaunch apache2 server ?
[10:22] <gerald-volt> http://www.muchosucko.com/video-rallyracingvideowithtunes.html
[10:22] <Seveas> alainlucas, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[10:22] <ler> helo
[10:22] <blueandwhiteg3> jahshua: it also appears they are having issues with how they updated their keys for the new year, but not their netinstall. And i don't feel like downloading and burning 15 (!) cds
[10:22] <odat> Seveas, same stuff
[10:23] <odat> Seveas, deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas breezy-seveas list_of_sections    failed
[10:23] <Jowi> DarkRitual: very good. I made sure my Visa was fully covered for internet-fraud before I signed (free of charge of course). Never had my info compromised and I used it for 3 years online now.
[10:23] <thoreauputic> alainlucas:  or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:23] <jahshua> blueandwhiteg3: were you trying their new release, sarge ?
[10:23] <DarkRitual> gerald-volt, google up mplayer it supports almost every thing if i am alright there is also apple qicktime for linux
[10:23] <Seveas> odat, then you're doing something wrong, just tested them
[10:23] <jahshua> anyone know how can you get mozilla to play streaming .wmv files?
[10:23] <pc22> all players says no plugin
[10:23] <ler> who like to sexdating?
[10:23] <Seveas> odat, READ THE F*ING PAGE, it says to replace list_of_sections with the sections you want
[10:23] <Seveas> stop spreading fud. They work.
[10:23] <Seveas> jeez.
[10:23] <odat> Seveas, what if i want all the sections?
[10:23] <pc22> other avi files play but memoirs of geisha wont
[10:23] <thoreauputic> jahshua: you seem to have ignored the answers already given...
[10:24] <Jowi> gerald-volt: i don't use plugins for any media (appart from pictures of course). I preffer launching external apps for everything. Make it easier to switch apps if needed.
[10:24] <pc22> jahshua, hi
[10:24] <DarkRitual> Jowi,  funnyest was ive entered 1 time information about my CC with out security crap and still they stole 30 euro's but Visa has idd great services for aggainst fraud*
[10:24] <Seveas> odat, READ THE PAGE.
[10:24] <jahshua> thoreauputic, whichs ones? i dont see any
[10:24] <jahshua> pc22: hi
[10:24] <Seveas> it says how to do that
[10:24] <odat> Seveas, k i c
[10:24] <gerald-volt> i tried downloading that video
[10:24] <blueandwhiteg3> jahshua: I was actually trying to get etch up and running
[10:24] <gerald-volt> and using xine or mplayer to play it
[10:24] <gerald-volt> it doesn't work
[10:24] <DarkRitual> gerald-volt, use mplayer i never had probs with that @ fedora
[10:24] <alainlucas> What does such error mean :
[10:24] <jahshua> thoreauputic: ?
[10:24] <alainlucas> alain@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:24] <alainlucas>  * Forcing reload of web server  (Apache2)... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.23 for ServerName
[10:24] <alainlucas> a
[10:25] <DarkRitual> It also supports porn XD
[10:25] <Seveas> alainlucas, son't paste in here
[10:25] <DarkRitual> Streams etc
[10:25] <liable> my stinkpad has decided that it doesnt like having a cd drive in it anymore and hangs for about 30 secs at stage 1.5. Boots instantly without it in though. Where the hell do I start to debug this?
[10:25] <gerald-volt> still doesn't work
[10:25] <Seveas> and that error is quite harmles
[10:25] <phos-phoros> maybe sudo apt-get mozilla-plugin-vlc
[10:25] <thoreauputic> jahshua: mozilla-mplayer ?
[10:25] <jahshua> doesnt work
[10:25] <jahshua> i have that installed
[10:25] <Myrtti> I'd vote for mozilla-plugin-vlc
[10:25] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[10:25] <ubotu> doesn't work is probably something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[10:25] <jahshua> heh
[10:25] <Seveas> liable, grub is hanging when the CD drive is in?!
[10:26] <Jowi> DarkRitual: was it a keylogger or the sites fault?
[10:26] <garry> Stinkpad. I love it.
[10:26] <Seveas> then the thing is broken I guess ::)
[10:26] <DarkRitual> gerald-volt,  just as phos-phoros say'd try in console: sudo apt-get mozilla-plugin-vlc
[10:26] <pc22> wahhhh all of my avi files are ok. are avi files differ with one anothyer?
[10:26] <gerald-volt> trying right now
[10:26] <odat> Seveas, why don't you just upload to the other backports
[10:26] <Seveas> odat, why would I?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: afaik vlc only supports old windows media, not wmv 9 etc
[10:26] <DarkRitual> Jowi,  No was not an keylogger it was an HTML script or some thing i don't know but infact i got basicly hacked
[10:27] <Seveas> odat, the backports people know of my packages and can take them if they want. They clearly don't :)
[10:27] <Seveas> and not all in there are backports
[10:27] <DarkRitual> Jowi,  you know it 1 open port and 1 milion hackerzzz :P
[10:27] <Jowi> Seveas: you know by any chance if "slim" is going to be ported?
[10:28] <Seveas> Jowi, I wouldn't even know what slim is :)
[10:28] <Jowi> DarkRitual: I *heard* about it ;)
[10:28] <Jowi> Seveas: ah, erhm... login manager. very slick. think i have a link to it.
[10:28] <Toma-> DarkRitual: youre complaining about apache logs?
[10:28] <Jowi> Seveas: http://slim.berlios.de/
[10:28] <n3x> Anyone here thats used Gnokii before..
[10:28] <Seveas> !+info slim dapper
[10:28] <ubotu> Package 'slim' does not exist.
[10:29] <Seveas> Jowi, ah i remember now, afaik there was some interest from the xubuntu guys
[10:29] <DarkRitual> Toma-, No about some asshole who hacked me when i was bashing my head on my keyboard of that huge virus called Windows
[10:29] <orhs_> i have two network controllers. one broadcom and one 3com(i just bought the 3com)
[10:29] <Jowi> Seveas: faster than xdm even
[10:29] <jessica_> im running a widescreen resolution of 1280 x 768 my boyfriend installed kubuntu-is it me or the windows on kubuntu are extremely big? is there away for me to resize them?
[10:29] <Jowi> Seveas: ah ok
[10:29] <Seveas> Jowi, you should ask in #xubuntu whether there are still plans to include it
[10:29] <Jowi> Seveas: will do, thanks
[10:30] <Toma-> DarkRitual: ahh i see.
[10:30] <DarkRitual> ubotu, tell DarkRitual about .deb
[10:31] <DarkRitual> crack -.-"
[10:31] <odat> xfce just reminds me of a little gnome
[10:31] <odat> however i never see that much of a speed difference
[10:31] <morphix> jessica_, yes.. windows seem huge to me.. no matter what res :/
[10:32] <thoreauputic> odat: use it on an old box and you will feel the difference
[10:32] <DarkRitual> dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb <= this is the command to install .deb files?
[10:32] <odat> thoreauputic, i have and granted there is a small difference however not enough to warrant the lack of features
[10:32] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: add sudo before it
[10:32] <odat> from gnome
[10:33] <thoreauputic> odat: my experience is different - but for a real speed up I use a compiled version of fluxbox
[10:33] <DarkRitual> thoreauputic, i am under root
[10:33] <DarkRitual> but i will
[10:33] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: OK :)
[10:33] <Toma-> thoreauputic: compiled fluxbox = pure speed imho :D
[10:33] <odat> thoreauputic, ahhh
[10:34] <phos-phoros> DarkRitual, try dpkg -i "some.deb"
[10:34] <DarkRitual> package architecture (powerpc) does not match system (i386) <= DOH! i am acting stupid now :X
[10:34] <thoreauputic> the Ubuntu version of fluxbox has issues - but I believe the version for dapper will fix them ( xmb bug)
[10:36] <meborc> can somebody tell me if it is safe to upgrade in dapper at the moment? :) ... meaning, has anyone done it this morning?
[10:36] <cafuego> meborc: from dapper TO dapper?
[10:37] <meborc> yeah... dapper testing...
[10:37] <cafuego> meborc: Yeh, just use aptitude
[10:37] <cafuego> meborc: My box didn't die, so it seems it works ;-)
[10:37] <DarkRitual> odat thoreauputic, ahhh
[10:37] <meborc> ok, thanks.. sometimes the dayly updates just crash the system
[10:37] <soulslayer> i need some help here, please, i damaged the x server
[10:37] <DarkRitual> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:37] <DarkRitual>  amsn
[10:37] <Seveas> soulslayer, then undo what you did...
[10:37] <made> I'm back.. ok forget 3dchess.. I would like to know why I can't use imageshack.us in ubuntu?
[10:37] <soulslayer> no it says that it cant start the mouese
[10:37] <Jowi> soulslayer: in what way?
[10:37] <cafuego> meborc: You'll just need to manually fix a couple of openoffice.org2 issues
[10:37] <odat> DarkRitual, processing what?
[10:38] <orhs_> hey guys i need help with this "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" the driver version of the hardware is 3.0.7.2
[10:38] <orhs_> if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength
[10:38] <odat> orhs_, ndsiwrapper
[10:38] <soulslayer> that there are no core pointing devices or something like that
[10:38] <Jowi> soulslayer: what was the last thing you did? Compiled your own kernel or something?
[10:38] <soulslayer> nononono, im a novice please
[10:39] <meborc> cafuego: i already tackeled the openoffice prob yesterday... fixed it by completely removing it and installing only write, calc, and impress... as they are the only ones i need... the lazy way out :)
[10:39] <cafuego> Tssk :-)
[10:39] <blueandwhiteg3> odat: I'm having problems with the cipherfunk.org repository
[10:39] <blueandwhiteg3> odat: is your apt-get update working properly?
[10:39] <DarkRitual> odat,  i am installing AMSN
[10:39] <soulslayer> the only thing i did was changed the color depth using xorgconfig, but in the mouse configuration i used auto
[10:39] <garry> Its ok soulslayer , folks can help.
[10:40] <Jowi> soulslayer: easiest way to reconfigure X is "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and select the mouse from there.
[10:40] <odat> blueandwhiteg3, does it say something about gpg   ?
[10:40] <DarkRitual> but its whining about TkCximage
[10:40] <garry> redo and try to specifiy your specific mouse soul.
[10:40] <orhs_> odat i have used that and installed the network driver: 3CRWE154G72. but still no result.. ubuntu finds it but its disconnected at staus and when i activate it it gets deactivated after a short while. i also get many errors like:eth1: no reset complete irq seen - retrying at startup
[10:40] <Jowi> soulslayer: xorgconfig is not very accurate sometimes
[10:40] <blueandwhiteg3> odat: yes, there is a gpg thing, but there is also a "no such file" - do they possibly not have amd64 binaries?
[10:40] <soulslayer> yes you right
[10:41] <cafuego> blueandwhiteg3: Not for blue&white G3's, no.
[10:41] <soulslayer> oh, im using kubuntu, is the same thing???
[10:41] <odat> blueandwhiteg3, didn't know you were on amd64   that is the probelm they don't have binaries for that
[10:41] <odat> sorry
[10:41] <Jowi> soulslayer: yep, same
[10:41] <made> when I go to www.imageshack.us it opens fine.. when I try to use the anything else it just times out.. I can use that site just fine in win
[10:41] <garry> or you can look for something like your backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see inside what the mouse was chosen as and change it back via sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:41] <blueandwhiteg3> amd64: no problem, I didn't mention my platform.
[10:41] <garry> or you can look for something like your backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see inside what the mouse was chosen as and change it back via sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:42] <garry> my first line was wrong.
[10:42] <morphix> hrm
[10:42] <morphix> when i open mplayer
[10:42] <orhs_> odat, i have used that and installed the network driver: 3CRWE154G72. but still no result.. ubuntu finds it but its disconnected at staus and when i activate it it gets deactivated after a short while. i also get many errors like:eth1: no reset complete irq seen - retrying at startup
[10:42] <soulslayer> is there a backup???
[10:43] <jaanika> moi
[10:43] <phos-phoros> http://somafm.org
[10:43] <Jowi> soulslayer: not if you didn't do one yourself. "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:43] <garry> should be one. it might be like xorg.conf~
[10:43] <morphix> when i open MPlayer i get error "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file ~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf"
[10:43] <snadge> is there a way to install a newer kernel and still be compatible with ubuntu as possible? im having cardbus issues with the latest default kernel
[10:43] <soulslayer> anithing else before restart ubuntu...????
[10:44] <Jowi> soulslayer: no need to restart. "sudo gdm" should do it
[10:44] <soulslayer> no, the problem is i have to use winbugs to talk with you
[10:45] <Jowi> soulslayer: ah
[10:45] <soulslayer> i couldnt configure the internet connection in ubuntu
[10:45] <app> I still have no clue, why updatedb/locate is not finding  anything on my ntfs partition which is nicely accessible at /media/hda1. I can't find any configuration file for updatedb? I just ran it manually again, to make sure. Spins the disk nicely, exits nicely, but does not index the ntfs files?
[10:45] <garry> hmm, you mentioned kde soul? try startkdm or kdm.
[10:45] <Jowi> soulslayer: nope, just reconfigure X and you should be ready to go
[10:45] <soulslayer> first i have to fix this and then use ndiswrapper
[10:46] <orhs_> odat, i have used that and installed the network driver: 3CRWE154G72. but still no result.. ubuntu finds it but its disconnected at staus and when i activate it it gets deactivated after a short while. i also get many errors like:eth1: no reset complete irq seen - retrying at startup
[10:46] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: I am feeling really stupid tonight, as I can't recall the command for making my compilation be entered into apt-get, in place of make install...
[10:46] <Toma-> checkinstall
[10:46] <alainlucas> how to create a symbolic link ?
[10:46] <Toma-> :D
[10:46] <soulslayer> garry: ok
[10:46] <Jowi> sudo checkinstall
[10:46] <soulslayer> ill fix that
[10:46] <Jowi> Toma-: my memory work!
[10:47] <soulslayer> wait for me ill go back
[10:47] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: theres probably a way you can use bash to swap "make install" into checkinstall
[10:47] <blueandwhiteg3> Toma-: and that's not a normal command?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> alainlucas:  ln -s /existing/file /symlink/path
[10:47] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: normal?
[10:47] <blueandwhiteg3> I tried autocomplete in bash and it's not autocompleting checkinstall... oh wait... no dev tools yet, never mind
[10:47] <garry> got to do sudo abby normal
[10:47] <blueandwhiteg3> that's, what, apt-get install dev-base or something...
[10:47] <alainlucas> thoreauputic: dor a directory ?
[10:47] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: you'll need to use apt-get to grab checkinstall
[10:47] <alainlucas> thoreauputic: for...
[10:48] <thoreauputic> alainlucas: you can symlink directories
[10:48] <Toma-> its not installed by default, sadly
[10:48] <Jowi> blueandwhiteg3: sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall
[10:48] <tom> is it possible to downgrade from dapper to breezy?
[10:48] <Toma-> blueandwhiteg3: build-essential is the package you want, and checkinstall
[10:48] <thoreauputic> alainlucas:  man ln  ;-)
[10:49] <blueandwhiteg3> can't find package checkinstall...
[10:49] <blueandwhiteg3> what repository is it in?
[10:49] <DarkRitual> grmbl
[10:49] <Jowi> !info checkinstall
[10:49] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[10:49] <thoreauputic> tom: not without much pain and suffering
[10:49] <Jowi> universe
[10:49] <DarkRitual> anny one know an diffrent notepad then Gedit?
[10:49] <Jowi> DarkRitual: mousepad
[10:49] <made> I'm out... I guess I'll have to plug and troubleshoot myself.. ttyl
[10:49] <Toma-> DarkRitual: vi
[10:49] <tom> thoreauputic: hmm dapper is much pain already :)
[10:49] <Jowi> DarkRitual: nano
[10:49] <thoreauputic> tom: heh
[10:49] <orhs_> if i change the connection name from lo to eth1 (wich is my wifi card) i see "disconnected" on the status bar and 0% signal strength
[10:50] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: mousepad, scite, beaver
[10:50] <soulslayer> orhs: your wifi should be wlan0 no eth1
[10:50] <Toma-> bbl.
[10:50] <Jowi> orhs_: lo is the local loopback network
[10:50] <soulslayer> orhs: are you using ndiswrapper??
[10:50] <DarkRitual> (gedit:5162): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display <----
[10:50] <orhs_> soulslayer, but why is it eth1 ?
[10:51] <Jowi> DarkRitual: if you don't run X, try "nano"
[10:51] <garry> must do that from a gnome or kde terminal Dark.
[10:51] <DarkRitual> I am running X
[10:51] <DarkRitual> I am doing it trough the terminal
[10:51] <DarkRitual> i need to make an script
[10:51] <orhs_> soulslayer, i installed one driver at ndis wrapper but there is no result change between the installed driver and before the driver was installed
[10:51] <DarkRitual> to install A-MSN
[10:51] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: I bet you are trying to run it as root - am I right?
[10:51] <soulslayer> orhs: you should configurate the modules first, install ndiswrapper from the beginning
[10:52] <garry> sounds like Jowl's advice would work better.
[10:52] <DarkRitual> Ehhhh
[10:52] <DarkRitual> shit
[10:52] <orhs_> soulslayer, but i have no network connection on my 'nix machine
[10:52] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: you can't have 2 users on the same display :)
[10:52] <Jowi> DarkRitual, as thoreauputic said. should't run gedit as root. gksudo will work
[10:53] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: ctrl-d to log out of root, then gksudo gedit
[10:53] <garry> Roots are for trees! Save the trees, use sudo!
[10:53] <soulslayer> orhs: check the instruccions for installation at ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[10:53] <soulslayer> use the instructions exactly
[10:53] <soulslayer> and will work
[10:54] <greg> peace and blessings
[10:54] <DarkRitual> thoreauputic,  thnx for waking me up it works now :)
[10:54] <blueandwhiteg3> What version of the kernel comes with 5.10
[10:54] <soulslayer> ohrs: in the next ten minutes im gonna try to install my pcmcia wifi, ill bring some instructions, wait.
[10:54] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: no worries :) Just don't try to run X apps as root!
[10:55] <DarkRitual> on fedora it aint an problem
[10:55] <blueandwhiteg3> I need to grab the headers to build alsa...
[10:55] <DarkRitual> but debian based its more security
[10:55] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: this isn't Fedora ;)
[10:55] <DarkRitual> I am not on 1 row today
[10:55] <DarkRitual> specialy what happend last night
[10:55] <greg> can anyone guide me through a mounting of a second physical harddrive?
[10:55] <Jowi> blueandwhiteg3: apt-cache search --names-only linux-image
[10:55] <DarkRitual> thoreauputic, i am aware off i got the manuals here XD
[10:56] <orhs_> soulslayer, but there is no difference if the driver is installed or not. linux did find it when i just plugged the card in. the 3com card i have uses prism54 chipset
[10:56] <thoreauputic> DarkRitual: yeah I know :) Just having an obvious day ;-)
[10:56] <DarkRitual> another problem damned
[10:56] <orhs_> soulslayer, ok
[10:56] <Madpilot> !tell greg about mount
[10:56] <DarkRitual> i beg to god to make my day an little bit better for this week...
[10:56] <polpak> greg: sudo /dev/name_of_drive_from_dmesg_followed_by_partition_number /directory/you/want/the/files/mounted/to
[10:56] <Madpilot> need sleep, later all
[10:56] <polpak> greg: err
[10:56] <DarkRitual> laters mad
[10:56] <orhs_> darkritual, what god is that? :P
[10:56] <polpak> greg: sudo mount /dev/name_of_drive_from_dmesg_followed_by_partition_number /directory/you/want/the/files/mounted/to
[10:57] <greg> okay let me look at what you are writing
[10:57] <DarkRitual> orhs_, he just hates me when i think unlogicaly
[10:57] <Jowi> DarkRitual: "Heppy Newyear" didn't do it for you I guess :-/
[10:57] <Jowi> heppy=happy
[10:57] <app> OK, I found it. It looks like updatedb will use /etc/updatedb.conf by default, although this is extremely confusingly almost non-documented on updatdb and sloate manual pages. And there ir IGNORES /media by default, where Breezy puts ntfs by default!!??
[10:57] <DarkRitual> sorry Jowi
[10:58] <Jowi> DarkRitual: just ment that it's not been the greatest start of the new year for you, that's all
[10:58] <DarkRitual> Its not a problem i just woke up with an depressed feellings and i can't handle with it on the right way my appoligice for that
[10:58] <app> So this is the reason why locate does not find stuff on Windows partition.
[10:58] <DarkRitual> Jowi, take me for example of an bad year :)
[10:59] <app> This is clearly a bug: putting WIndows partition in /media and ignoring it in locate.
[11:00] <garry> Unless it isn't mounted and doesn't auto mount.
[11:00] <orhs_> oh oh! my movies are finished!
[11:00] <garry> on second thought, nix that, I could be mistaken.
[11:01] <orhs_> hehe soon king kong time!
[11:01] <meborc> i mount my fat32 partition like this: [B] sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 -t vfat -o umask=000[/B] 
[11:01] <app> BTW, Breezy by default put my Windows partition with "defaults" options on fstab, which is bad, because it is owned by root then and nor readable e.g. by the default Desktop icon to it.
[11:02] <greg> polpak, I am looking at sudo fdisk -l and I am looking for partition number
[11:02] <greg> i am also looking at dmesg
[11:02] <garry> yep, app, lemme send a corrected sample line that might help for that. sec ...
[11:02] <greg> is it the start number? iD number?
[11:03] <blueandwhiteg3> OK, which of the myriad of kernel options do I want to apt-get so I can finished the ./configure of alsa... and no, telling me to search with apt-cache doesn't cut it (I have the AMD64 install of Ubuntu)
[11:03] <orhs_> turned out that the king kong movie was a porn flick.....
[11:03] <Sturgeon> how do i schedule something in gnome?
[11:03] <garry> app heres is a sample of what I use for ntfs devices names will be different naturally /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       0
[11:03] <Sturgeon> (i want it to do something at a given hour)
[11:03] <greg> what my line looks like so far polpak is:
[11:03] <greg> sudo mount /dev/hda1  /home/greg/Desktop/200/
[11:04] <Sturgeon> specifically play loud music so I wake up :)
[11:04] <greg> i am trying to mount hda1 onto hdb desktop in folder 200
[11:04] <thoreauputic> blueandwhiteg3: have you installed  linux-headers-$(uname -r)  ?
[11:04] <blueandwhiteg3> ahh yes that sounds about right...
[11:04] <Jowi> Sturgeon: man crontab :)
[11:05] <DarkRitual> Wheee
[11:05] <DarkRitual> MSN works
[11:05] <Sturgeon> yeah i looked a bit but it seems to be a console app
[11:05] <Jowi> Sturgeon: crontab have very advanced time options
[11:05] <garry> grats
[11:05] <greg> where is the partition number if you would?
[11:05] <Sturgeon> can i make it run a gnome application?
[11:06] <ubijtsa> Sturgeon: what are you trying to do?
[11:06] <Jowi> Sturgeon: google for "crontab examples" and you will find tons. "crontab -e" will let you edit it. there is a crontab frontend but it is not very good.
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Sturgeon:  sleep 8h && cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   <-- that should wake you up *grin*
[11:07] <kjarni> Hi, I just installed 5.10 and am stuck in 640x480 (nvidia card), I've installed the drivers ala ubuntuguide.com and tried reconfiguring xserver via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but, alas, nothing works. Any tips to what I should do and/or a uri to a page with help?
[11:07] <aftertaf> kjarni:  ubuntuguide is a nightmare
[11:08] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[11:08] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:08] <Jowi> !tell kjarni about nvidia
[11:08] <Sturgeon> thoreauputic: hehehe
[11:08] <Sturgeon> thoreauputic: yeah but i should replace that "8h" by "4h" :(
[11:09] <thoreauputic> Sturgeon: I sometimes use   sleep 4h && mpg321 /path/to/loud/music.mp3
[11:09] <kjarni> Thanks, I'll follow those instructions and bug you if I manage to not get it :)
[11:09] <aftertaf> :)
[11:09] <thoreauputic> or variations thereof...
[11:11] <garry> Loud MP3 recordings of someone say oh bleep!! I just recursively gzipped / into a file and the entire linux partition is empty are guaranteed waker-uppers.
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Sturgeon: if you prefer to listen to the kernel you can  cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp  :D
[11:12] <techone> ok so my firefox just disappeared off the screen
[11:12] <garry> wow, clever Thor!
[11:13] <Seveas> techone, it probably fell on the ground
[11:13] <thoreauputic> garry: subtly different music from /dev/urandom  heh ;)
[11:13] <Jowi> techone: look *behind* the screen
[11:13] <techone> at iso hunt I initiated a bunch of downloads most of which timed out so I just did a search for alchemy and then firefox just blinked off.
[11:13] <techone> ;^)
[11:14] <Sturgeon> thoreauputic: i'll use that, thanks
[11:14] <garry> LOL!! I hear the kernel!!!
[11:14] <techone> im trying to identify the cause of odd behaviour on this box like firfox closing and pwoer downs
[11:15] <garry> It says NT means Nice Try.
[11:15] <techone> how can I identify what cause firefox to choke
[11:15] <thoreauputic> garry: if it sounds horible, submit a bug report ;)
[11:15] <garry> thoreauputic ROFL
[11:15] <thoreauputic> techone: try running it from a termianl, or run strace firefox
[11:16] <Seveas> garry, no, you hear /dev/urandom
[11:16] <thoreauputic> bah typos
[11:16] <Seveas> to hear the kernel: cat /proc/kcore > /dev/dsp
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ah interesting :)
[11:16] <garry> Oh man, adn that's a long file too.
[11:16] <Seveas> You might hear linus say 'F* you, Eric Raymond'
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ROFL
[11:17] <Juski> hi folks.  I'm having problems getting XvMC to work - it's installed (apparently) but doesn't seem to be usable... anyone have any pointers?
[11:18] <techone> ok so strace wont tell me why the last instance died but maybe the next one, is that right?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> techone: yes
[11:18] <enkrav> Hello, what's the reason Ubuntu doesn't install Linux Standard Base in the default installation?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> techone: mind you it will possibly be pretty arcane stuff
[11:19] <techone> enkrav, what is the Linux Standard Base?
[11:20] <enkrav> http://www.linuxbase.org/
[11:20] <danjo> hello
[11:20] <danjo> is there a german ubuntu channel too?
[11:20] <ubijtsa> enkrav: might be that it is a little to invasive yet and would break things
[11:20] <Seveas> !de
[11:20] <ubotu> rumour has it, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:20] <thoreauputic> !de
[11:20] <thoreauputic> Seveas: always too quick for me :)
[11:21] <Seveas> thoreauputic, that's why I'm the lartist :)
[11:21] <ubijtsa> enkrav: saw something on the mailing lists that LSB is coming, might not be in Dapper, but perhaps Dapper+1
[11:21] <morphix> when i playback video in MPlayer in fullscreen.. the video is VERY choppy
[11:21] <morphix> and also how to i output AC3 to SPDIF?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ah yes, and I'm the artist (not so tech savvy )
[11:21] <Jowi> morphix: try another -vo
[11:22] <morphix> -vo??
[11:22] <Jowi> morphix: video output. mplayer -vo help
[11:22] <SillyZ> morning, quick q.... I have a few operations id like to preform at each boot ( command line stuff ) where can I put these commands so they will be executed at each boot and before gdm loads?
[11:22] <toca> hola?
[11:22] <Seveas> hi toca
[11:22] <toca> hombre...
[11:22] <toca> jeje
[11:22] <thoreauputic> SillyZ: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh  is one solution
[11:23] <Seveas> toca, please speak english in here
[11:23] <Seveas> !es
[11:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:23] <toca> ya em pensava que me tendria que poner a ablar en ingles o algo asi :P
[11:23] <toca> jejeje
[11:23] <SillyZ> bootmisc ok ill look into that one
[11:23] <Jowi> SillyZ: /etc/init.d then link them to SnumberCommand in /etc/rc2.d
[11:23] <thoreauputic> Jowi's way is more correct
[11:23] <soulslayer> ok, i fixed the x problem
[11:24] <Seveas> cool soulslayer
[11:24] <Jowi> congrats soulslayer
[11:24] <soulslayer> thanks
[11:24] <SillyZ> Jowi, I dont understand the numbering system used in rc2.d
[11:24] <SillyZ> what would be a good number to use? 90 ?
[11:24] <soulslayer> but the command dpkg -reconfigure xserver -xorg wasnt the solution
[11:24] <Jowi> SillyZ: very simple capital S mean Start. the number is the order. higher = later.
[11:24] <SillyZ> ok
[11:25] <SillyZ> so like S99 is last and S00 is first
[11:25] <SillyZ> got it
[11:25] <soulslayer> the solution was using /dev/input/mice as the pointing device
[11:25] <Jowi> SillyZ: yep
[11:25] <garry> thanks, good to know soul.
[11:26] <soulslayer> now i have another question that is not good explained in the howto's
[11:26] <soulslayer> how can i use my pen drive
[11:26] <Seveas> plug it in
[11:26] <Seveas> it should mount automagically
[11:26] <soulslayer> mount /dev/hda5 or sda1 is not the solution
[11:26] <garry> yep, and an icon shows on the desktop
[11:26] <soulslayer> nope
[11:26] <garry> hehe
[11:27] <garry> hmmm,
[11:27] <polpak> soulslayer: did you try just plugging it in?
[11:27] <soulslayer> it appear in media but when i try to acces it show me an error
[11:27] <Determinist> dude, i hope our prime minister doesnt drop dead, things dont look too good at the moment
[11:27] <polpak> soulslayer: what error?
[11:27] <soulslayer> yes i tried
[11:27] <SillyZ> Jowi, thanks now to give this a try on boot
[11:27] <SillyZ> brb
[11:29] <greg> hey thanks popak I got it going and its working nice. Have a great night.
[11:29] <greg> Peace
[11:29] <greg> i mean polpak
[11:30] <soulslayer> sorry people i lost my line, you where saying something
[11:30] <Seveas> soulslayer, copy the complete error or a screenshot of it on the pastebin
[11:30] <soulslayer> i was telling you that there is an error
[11:30] <alex___> is there anyone with experience with marillat ?
[11:30] <Seveas> alex___, don't use it
[11:30] <soulslayer> how can i take a screenshot of it??
[11:30] <Seveas> better use plf or cipherfunk, these are made for ubuntu
[11:30] <Seveas> soulslayer, the print screen button :)
[11:31] <morphix> how can i default .avi & .mpg, etc to MPlayer intead of totem
[11:31] <morphix> instead*
[11:31] <Seveas> morphix, in firefox?
[11:31] <soulslayer> oh, thanks sorry for my ignorance
[11:31] <Jowi> morphix: "open with..."
[11:31] <soulslayer> ill go back
[11:31] <alex___> Seveas: well iHave a client that wants to stream real video content, what are my solutions ?
[11:31] <morphix> in anywhere.
[11:31] <soulslayer> please wait
[11:31] <Seveas> alex___, cipherfunk or plf :)
[11:31] <Seveas> !tell alex___ about easysource
[11:32] <Seveas> there you fond sources.list lines for them
[11:32] <Seveas> find*
[11:32] <alex___> Seveas: can I stream real content with plf ?
[11:32] <Seveas> yes
[11:32] <Seveas> plf has w32codecs too
[11:32] <bimberi> ubotu: tell morphix about defaultapp
[11:34] <morphix> argh.. ok.. this is annoying.. when i go fullscreen in MPlayer the video is really jerky.. when i open things in Totem files play extremely fast
[11:34] <Ber> hello
[11:34] <Ber> is this the ubunto Masters server???
[11:34] <alex___> Seveas: thanks
[11:34] <Ber> are you masters??
[11:35] <Ber> can you answer a question??
[11:35] <Jowi> ...but our lipsyncs are better!
[11:35] <jaguar> bye-everyone!
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Ber: why don't you ask one and see ?
[11:36] <jaguar> have fun!
[11:36] <alex___> Seveas: plf as in Penguin Liberation Front :)
[11:36] <fek> hi
[11:36] <Ber> i wondering how to make Ubunto look like WINDOWS XP
[11:36] <Seveas> alex___, yup
[11:36] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[11:36] <Ber> he
[11:36] <alex___> and inside plf, what should I look for ?
[11:36] <made> I'm noob.. how do I install the latest firefox.  I have 1.0.7 installed I want 1.5
[11:36] <thoreauputic> !firefox1.5
[11:36] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:36] <Ber> you ar enoob
[11:37] <Ber> like me
[11:37] <Seveas> alex___, w32codecs, look at the url ubotu gave you for a link to plf and sources.list entries
[11:37] <stylesp> !help
[11:37] <made> and another thing.. I can't get dvds to play
[11:37] <Seveas> !dvd
[11:37] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:37] <Jowi> Ber: art.gnome.org
[11:38] <thoreauputic> hmm what happened there ?
[11:38] <Ber> jowi
[11:38] <app> Anyone know, how to move oversized windows (like Skype personal profile window) through the top of the X background, so that I can see the lower hafl of the non-scrollable window?
[11:38] <Seveas> app, hold <alt>, click, drag
[11:38] <Ber> jowi THanks
[11:39] <fek> is it safe, to change hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list and do and update && dist-upgrade?
[11:39] <alex___> Seveas: but ...plf is illegal is not it ?
[11:39] <Seveas> it's as legal/illegal as marillat
[11:39] <Ber> what is GNOME
[11:40] <stylesp> an Desktop like KDE
[11:40] <Hobbsee> !tell Ber about gnome
[11:40] <Ber> KDE?
[11:40] <Hobbsee> !tell Ber about kde
[11:40] <thoreauputic> Ber: GNU Object Model Environment IIRC
[11:40] <Jowi> fek: generally. but i would advice to remove openoffice first. it borked my upgrade. just install it again after your done. oh, and install ubuntu-desktop before you dist-upgrade
[11:40] <stylesp> an Frontend to the System
[11:40] <Jowi> ubotu, tell fek about breezyupgrade
[11:40] <Ber> is it like style Xp
[11:41] <stylesp> it looks good
[11:41] <Ber> but  alredy in the system
[11:41] <fek> Jowi: i installed OO by myself, becaus the package in hoary was bad
[11:41] <stylesp> and has themes
[11:41] <selinium> app, I have had the same problem with Skype, I have had to go into System/prefs/screen resolution to change the res up, then shrink the box, then change the res back, a pain I know
[11:41] <thoreauputic> Ber:  look at  http://xwinman.org
[11:41] <Jowi> fek: yeah, same here. remove it before upgrading
[11:41] <Seveas> selinium, hold <alt>, click, drag
[11:41] <Ber> can i make it looks like  win xp
[11:42] <LootBeer> can someone help me how do i add a user to my linux system?
[11:42] <fek> did it before
[11:42] <chronos> hi all
[11:42] <Ber> how to see witch game ubuntu can play, i want to play games like starcraft , halflife 2 .....
[11:42] <stylesp> adduser NAME
[11:42] <stylesp> sudo befor
[11:42] <selinium> Seveas, I learn something new everyday! :)
[11:42] <Jowi> LootBeer: simple solution: "sudo users-admin"
[11:42] <chronos> gnomefreak: in ubuntu livecd 4.10 have grub
[11:42] <Seveas> Ber, if you want it to look like windows and play windows games, use windows...
[11:43] <Ber> no
[11:43] <Jaymac> or cedega
[11:43] <Jowi> LootBeer: if you use stylesp solution you will have to add userdir and groups manually as well
[11:43] <app> Seveas, alt-dragging will not lift windows through the upper edge of the screen, not with Metacity defaults. Can you change that?
[11:43] <Ber> i just want it to look like it caz i am used to it
[11:43] <aftertaf> buy cedega, it lets you run your win games no problem
[11:43] <Seveas> app, for me it does..
[11:43] <selinium> Ber, Seveas You can always look at http://www.linuxgames.com/ for linux supported games.
[11:43] <ubuntu_> hey, I put a windows disk in my computer, and it installed windows bootloader, so i cant get to my linux, how can i re install the ubuntu boot loader without completely reinstalling ubuntu
[11:43] <Ber> this consept is mutch better then win xp
[11:43] <stylesp> @Bet get a LiveCD and have a look
[11:43] <aftertaf> Ber:  for the looks thing, make it look like linux, and unlearn your dark side ways ;)
[11:43] <Seveas> !tell ubuntu_ about grub
[11:43] <Ber> gehhehe
[11:44] <ubuntu_> ty
[11:44] <Ber> i am on a live cd right now!!! but i not good to finding things
[11:44] <app> Anyone with Breezy defaults, can you alt-drag windows through the top of the screen?
[11:44] <selinium> app, no it shrinks the window for me.
[11:44] <Seveas> app, as I said: /me :)
[11:45] <Seveas> well, I only tried with gtk apps
[11:45] <Seveas> not qt ones
[11:45] <Ber> what do i need for security if i INSTALL  ubunto......
[11:45] <Seveas> Ber, a brain :)
[11:45] <aftertaf> Ber:  if you install ubuntu, you are secure
[11:45] <thoreauputic> Ber: by default, nothing really
[11:45] <Ber> no i need persenol firewasll
[11:45] <selinium> app click and drag from the centre of the application and see what happens..
[11:45] <Ber> hacking??
[11:45] <Seveas> aftertaf, security is limited by the stupidity of the user, that's why you always need a brain :)
[11:46] <Seveas> Ber, ubuntu has no open ports by default
[11:46] <thoreauputic> Ber: you don't need a firewall unless you run internet facing servers
[11:46] <Jowi> Ber: you do not need a firewall in a default install
[11:46] <Ber> but if i play games i open ports right?
[11:46] <app> Or anyone who knows how to configure the window move behaviour in Breezy/Metacity?
[11:46] <aftertaf> Ber:  forget everytinhg you know about windows computing and start with a fresh slate in a brave new world ;)
[11:46] <Ber> hehee
[11:46] <selinium> Ber, sudo apt-get install firestarter       it is a gui for the iptables
[11:46] <Determinist> !w32codecs
[11:46] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:46] <Seveas> a wmf-exploit free world
[11:47] <aftertaf> oh yeah baby ;)
[11:47] <thoreauputic> Ber:  linux != windows ( linux > windows)
[11:47] <aftertaf> !lartist
[11:47] <ubotu> Being a linux deity is a true lart form, not all can become true lartists(tm)
[11:47] <Jowi> app: gconf-editor
[11:47] <Ber> i  just heard i needed to be scareed off hackers and not viruses
[11:47] <Seveas> ROFL@aftertaf
[11:47] <aftertaf> :)
[11:48] <Ber> i am not a haxor
[11:48] <Jowi> app: should be under /apps/metacity
[11:48] <aftertaf> Ber:  ubuntu linux is closed up tight by default. be scared if you then go and open all the windows in your new house
[11:48] <selinium> Ber, linux is so much more secure.
[11:48] <Ber> i just want to know if i am secured and i can play my games
[11:48] <stylesp> we see ;)
[11:48] <thoreauputic> Ber: we guessed
[11:48] <thoreauputic> heh
[11:48] <selinium> Hacker? Cracker? :)
[11:48] <Ber> how to see  before i buy a game if i can play it on linux
[11:49] <stylesp> what games are ur games?=
[11:49] <selinium> Ber, buy games?
[11:49] <Ber> is there any LISt???
[11:49] <stylesp> steam runs
[11:49] <stylesp> wineHQ
[11:49] <selinium> http://www.linuxgames.com
[11:49] <Jaymac> Ber..
[11:49] <Jaymac> http://appdb.winehq.org
[11:49] <aftertaf> Ber:  all commercial games (or almost) are windows only.
[11:49] <Jaymac> has a fairly decent list
[11:49] <aftertaf> see transgaming.com for how to run them on linux.
[11:49] <Jaymac> all commercial games are designed to run on Windows
[11:49] <Ber> but you can play theme
[11:49] <Ber> right
[11:49] <Jaymac> most can be played on Linux with a bit of work
[11:50] <aftertaf> Ber:  or keep a windows partition just for gaming if it matters that much to you.
[11:50] <aftertaf> Ber:  or until the time where you know enough in linux to get them to work.
[11:50] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: don't hold your breath ;)
[11:50] <aftertaf> hehe thoreauputic  :)
[11:51] <Ber> if i make a partition on an other disk for windows is i both secure and able to play GAMes???
[11:51] <aftertaf> set yourself a date limit when you'll free up 15 gig of gunk off your harddrive ;)
[11:51] <thoreauputic> !tell Ber about docs
[11:51] <Ber> hehe
[11:52] <sdaserver> hi
[11:52] <sdaserver> i'm a newbie and i just installed ubuntu a couple of hours ago
[11:52] <sdaserver> need help
[11:52] <app> Jowi, I don't see a setting that dis-en-ables window moves through the screentop, in gconf-editor / apps / metacity
[11:52] <Ber> i alredy have NTFS installed disk on Windows and i am going to buy a NEW one that i gonna but  UBUNTU on  so then i can install all games to the WINDOWS NTFS drive ???
[11:52] <aftertaf> sdaserver:  1) just ask... 2) well done ;)
[11:53] <sdaserver> help, anyone?
[11:53] <Jowi> app: screentop? what's that?
[11:53] <aftertaf> Ber:  linux cant write to ntfs
[11:53] <aftertaf> !tell sdaserver about ask
[11:53] <app> top of the screen, or to be prcise, higher than the bottome menu bar lower edge
[11:53] <Ber> how to make it work
[11:53] <app> , Jowi.
[11:53] <Ber> reinstall drive??
[11:53] <yanishh> hello ppl
[11:53] <aftertaf> in fat, yeah :)
[11:54] <Ber> fatt32??
[11:54] <thoreauputic> !install
[11:54] <ubotu> I heard install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Ber: ^^^
[11:54] <Jowi> app: let me see if i got it straight... you want the window to be able to be placed on top of the gnome-panel?
[11:54] <sdaserver> how does one access the dhcp server from the gnome?
[11:54] <app> To clear: Jowi, I can't move windows through the upper menu/panel bar, it like blocks window moves
[11:54] <yanishh> I installed ubuntu in 'server' install'. what should I apt-get now to have X-windows??
[11:55] <aftertaf> yanishh:  kubuntu-desktop
[11:55] <Ber> you said i shold make an partision on windows
[11:55] <blue-frog> sdaserver, ther's no dhcp server installed by default on ubuntu
[11:55] <Ber> not NTFS
[11:55] <Ber> ??
[11:55] <app> Jowi, I just want to see the lower end of an extra large non-sizeable and non-scrollable window.
[11:55] <sdaserver> so should i use synaptics to install it?
[11:55] <sdaserver> i think i did that already
[11:55] <thoreauputic> Ber: read the URL ubotu posted
[11:55] <Ber> i must have that partision my  new computer comes next Week!!
[11:55] <Ber> where
[11:56] <Jowi> app: ahhhhh, ok. hold the <alt> key while click/hold in the window to move it.
[11:56] <thoreauputic> Ber:  ubotu I heard install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:56] <yanishh> aftertaf I kust want the xserveR!not a destktop
[11:56] <Ber> ok
[11:57] <app> Jowi,  I can't because metacity does not allow alt-dragging a window, the upper panel menu bar blocks it. Bump! and there it stops, no matter haw much I alt-drag from the middle of the window!
[11:57] <Dave|id> i have decided to install ubuntu 5.10, i tried the live cd but when it boots up it stops on "Starting hotplug subsystem"
[11:57] <Dave|id> the live cd for 5.04 works fine
[11:57] <app> Jowi, I can also hit alt-F7, and the window goes to move state, but still its the same: there is an invisible border at the top, you can not move windows over it.
[11:58] <Dave|id> i have tried two 5.10 live cds now
[11:58] <Jowi> app: then we must be able to tell gnome-panel that it shouldn't. metacity is not causing that behaviour, it is gnome-panel
[11:59] <Dave|id> i ended up trying to install 5.10, it finished the first part of the install, rebooted and once again came stuck on the hotplug subsystem screen
[11:59] <app> Seveas says its working for him, Jowi.
[11:59] <Ber> if i have an WINDOWS partision i ca play games  like  NOW???????
[11:59] <Ber> with wondows...
[11:59] <Seveas> app, oddly enough, it only worked with the ati installer
[11:59] <Seveas> app, I can't move normal gnome-terminal above that border
[11:59] <thoreauputic> Ber: if you keep your windows install and dual boot Ubuntu, you can play your windows games in windows
[12:00] <Jowi> app: maybe there is a setting in gconf-editor /apps/panel somewhere... best guess i have atm
[12:00] <yanishh> I installed ubuntu in 'server' install'. what should I apt-get now to have X-windows??
[12:00] <Ber> but i dont want to use windows i relly insted want an partision and i gonna sell my disc with windows on....
[12:01] <Ber> i dont want to be half secured!
[12:01] <Determinist> Seveas, any idea if there are plans to implement drag and drop with the gnome menu?
[12:01] <aftertaf> yanishh:  kubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <Ber> and i dont want to choose bppt everytime
[12:01] <Ber> boot
[12:01] <thoreauputic> yanishh: if you want gnome,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop - for xfce4  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <aftertaf> yanishh:  sudo apt-get install (k)ubuntu-desktop   gnome or kde.
[12:01] <yanishh> aftertaf: I told you I Dont want a desktop!!!!!!
[12:01] <thoreauputic> yanishh: for others, it depends
[12:01] <aftertaf> xserver-xorg then
[12:02] <Ber> i i going to use windows for games i just can use windows all time caz i play all time
[12:02] <made> dvd
[12:02] <Ber> so its no option for me
[12:02] <aftertaf> yanishh:  missed that bit...
[12:02] <Jowi> Ber: you need windows to play certain games (not only a ntfs partition). that's a fact. if you need to be able to play those games, keep windows. you can't give the cake away and keep it.
[12:02] <aftertaf> xserver-xorg will bring in all the x components for you yanishh
[12:02] <Ber> i just want a bite of the cake left
[12:02] <yanishh> aftertaf: right I used that, Xserver is on my system but other important components didnt install!!!
[12:02] <thoreauputic> yanishh: I missed that too - xserver-xorg  or x-window-system-core
[12:03] <yanishh> aftertaf: they didnt !!!!
[12:03] <sdaserver> ok, again
[12:03] <Ber> so i cant play all games with the partision??
[12:03] <thoreauputic> yanishh: see above
[12:03] <yanishh> I dont know why...
[12:03] <Ber> =(
[12:03] <aftertaf> yanishh:  did it say what was missing?
[12:03] <sdaserver> how does one access, after having it installed, the dhcp server?
[12:03] <aftertaf>  x-window-system-core
[12:03] <thoreauputic> yanishh:  x-window-system-core or x-window-system
[12:03] <sdaserver> or at least, how does one access the apache web server
[12:03] <aftertaf> sdaserver:  its in text files, or you can get a module for webmin
[12:03] <yanishh> ok I ll try them
[12:04] <thoreauputic> yanishh: then if you need a window manager install that
[12:04] <sdaserver> aftertaf: that would be for the apache?
[12:04] <aftertaf> sdaserver:  for either dhcp or apache. look at all the webmin modules available (in synaptic)
[12:04] <DRitual> wooohoo
[12:05] <Ber> it jsut must be posseble to crap the windows ant use ubunto and play all games without using the Windows OPerating SYSTEm tell me PlEAZe
[12:05] <Jowi> Ber: I know how you feel :) Some games play well in linux though, quake/2/4, homeworld etx. There is a commercial application called Cedega ( www.transgaming.com ) that you can pay for to make them work. if your games are on that list you can play them in linux.
[12:05] <DarkRitual> www.newtorrents.info <= Cedega ^^
[12:05] <Ber> pay...never
[12:05] <aftertaf> Ber:  most games can be done that way, not all...    life forces us to choose sometimes.
[12:05] <app> So the gtk windows move past the top for you Seveas? Are you running Breezy with defaults?
[12:06] <aftertaf> lol app , you're on a crusade there ;)
[12:06] <Ber> JOwi...
[12:06] <Ber> who is the best  HAXOR in here
[12:06] <thoreauputic> app: write a letter of complaint to Havoc Pennington ;-)
[12:06] <Seveas> app, oddly enough, it only worked with the ati installer<--
[12:06] <Seveas> app, I can't move normal gnome-terminal above that border<--
[12:07] <Jowi> app: file a bug (or use another window manager) :)
[12:07] <aftertaf> Ber:  but for now, i suggest you install ubuntu and familiarise yourself with it. forget gaming for a while, boot to windows for that.      - and there arent any haxors here,, or at least they dont show off in here as such;
[12:07] <Dave|id> just found out i can press control c to skip it, i suspect my issue may be a fault with the onboard sound card
[12:07] <morphix> when i open a folder/dir in file browser.. when i open a subdir.. it opens a whole new window
[12:07] <app> aftertaf, I just need to make Skype work. It is an essential business tool in my company, and I am evaluating Breezy as an accepted workstation standard.
[12:07] <sdaserver> aftertaf: i can't follow that webmin thing
[12:07] <Ber> Dave id
[12:07] <Dave|id> will log a job with bugzolla
[12:07] <morphix> how do i make it open up in the same window
[12:07] <Ber> you know...
[12:07] <blueandwhiteg3> Anybody have an idea why Ubtuntu might decide to load up tty1 instead of the nice GUI login? I can type startx and be into gnome, of course, but it's kinda funky...
[12:08] <Ber> i am right now buing an computer a brain new  7800GT  3700+ .....
[12:08] <aftertaf> app:  argh. weird
[12:08] <Jowi> app: i use skype, have no problem with wierd window sizes.
[12:08] <aftertaf> blueandwhiteg3:  reconfigure your gdm/kdm
[12:08] <made> dvd won't play.
[12:08] <Ber> and  i buy it to play games and effect movies and music
[12:08] <aftertaf> !dvd
[12:08] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:08] <app> aftertaf and thoreauputic: attitudes like yours are the main reason Linux in not yet ready for business acceptance.
[12:08] <blueandwhiteg3> aftertaf: where can i reconfigure those?
[12:08] <Jowi> app: seveas has got the latest skype build. are you using that?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> app: I think you are taking me a bit too seriously
[12:09] <app> Jowi, can you see the picture settings at the bottom of the Skype personal profile window?
[12:09] <aftertaf> app:  dont take it badly.... what did i say? i've never used skype so i'm not gonna try and give you help on it... where would that get you?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> app: in fact far too seriously
[12:09] <Jowi> app: will launch skype to see
[12:09] <aftertaf> blueandwhiteg3:  type sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:09] <Ber> what is diffrent with the 64 bit  UBUNTO from the orginal
[12:10] <Ber> is it nicer?
[12:10] <app> Jowi, I ma using the FC3 Skype on their Web page, alienated to a deb.
[12:10] <aftertaf> Ber:  not same processor, so not compiled same.
[12:10] <Seveas> app, that's bad...
[12:10] <SillyZ> q: getting alot of atkbd.c setkeycode e20a msg's in dmesg, should I report this as a bug?
[12:10] <Seveas> SillyZ, no
[12:10] <Ber> but is it nicer or the same??
[12:10] <thoreauputic> app:  thoreauputic app: write a letter of complaint to Havoc Pennington ;-)   <-- see the little smiley thing ?
[12:10] <Jowi> app: use their deb instead
[12:10] <aftertaf> SillyZ:  i get that at times in updates with dapper.
[12:10] <SillyZ> Mornin Seveas , ok
[12:10] <Seveas> Jowi, not even that :)
[12:10] <Jowi> app: yeah, i see all the settings
[12:10] <SillyZ> well Im on a laptop so wasnt sure
[12:10] <aftertaf> Ber:  same, but different...
[12:10] <sdaserver> anyone: Has anybody attempted to make their ubuntu machine into an Internet gateway?
[12:10] <app> Jowi, the Skype deb package It does not work on Breezy!
[12:11] <Seveas> app, grab the correct one from my repo
[12:11] <Jowi> app: grab it from seveas
[12:11] <SillyZ> whats your site again sevas?
[12:11] <Seveas> !seveas
[12:11] <ubotu> you are, like, a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:11] <bimberi> !skype
[12:11] <ubotu> skype is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:11] <aftertaf> seveas is one who puts himself out a hell of a  lot to advance ubuntu in all ways app....  for info :P
[12:11] <KaskOOye_> hello
[12:11] <Ber> can i play all the new games i heard to old is not always working,   but can  i PLAY  the new like, FEAR, AGE OF EMPIRES 3 m.m.......
[12:12] <KaskOOye_> i'm running for the first time ubuntu. happy
[12:12] <Seveas> Ber, look at the cedega website for a list of supported games
[12:12] <aftertaf> Ber:  quit it with the games for now, install your ubuntu and learn to use it.
[12:12] <Seveas> KaskOOye_, welcome :)
[12:12] <Ng> Ber: the newer a game is, the less likely it is to work, I would say
[12:12] <app> Well I can see Seveas is botht the most friendly, most helpful and most skillful person here. Cheers!!
[12:12] <aftertaf> app:  ;)
[12:12] <Ber> less!!
[12:12] <Ber> ??
[12:12] <Ng> Ber: because the newest games have the highest requirements
[12:13] <techone> ok so last I was here I ran strace firefox and it sat on the welcome to Ubuntu page for like an hour then I selected firefox typed in isohunt.com hit enter and firefox died
[12:13] <Seveas> app, that's arguable but thanks :)
[12:13] <aftertaf> app:  and he's a reknowned lartist ;)
[12:13] <Ber> so th eoperating system dont want to play them
[12:13] <techone> what useful things can I read from srtace that might be of help to indicate the cause???
[12:14] <zool2005> is it possible to add commands (eg SHRED) to the context menu (right-click) ??
[12:14] <Ng> zool2005: pick the Open with Other Application option, it should remember actions you use from there for that file type
[12:14] <Seveas> zool2005, yes, you can make your own nautilus scripts
[12:15] <Ng> or yeah, if you want it to be more global use a script :)
[12:15] <Ber> Ubunto is  good !! to good but i miss the compebility to GAMEs if its was more OK then i shold make all my friends to Convert i promisse but its hard to tell them you cant play all games, my friends  play more then other things
[12:15] <Ber> io have 15 ubuntu CD at home
[12:16] <zool2005> Seveas, can you give me any pointers?
[12:16] <aftertaf> Ber:  they could buy a PS2 in that case ;)
[12:16] <Seveas> !listvals scripts
[12:16] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'scripts' by value (1 shown): nautilus scripts #DEL#.
[12:16] <mcphail> zool2005: add scripts to $HOME/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[12:16] <Seveas> !unforget nautilus scripts
[12:16] <ubotu> Seveas: Successfully recovered 'nautilus scripts'.  Have fun now.
[12:16] <Seveas> !nautilus scripts
[12:16] <ubotu> I heard nautilus scripts is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101870&highlight=nautilus+scripts
[12:16] <Ber> computer games is mutch better...
[12:16] <Seveas> ^-- zool2005
[12:16] <SillyZ> Seveas, I ran into one, installation of Gnome-XChat requires the removal of ubuntu-desktop?
[12:17] <Ber> is there any Games in here that plays alot?????
[12:17] <Ber> gamer
[12:17] <Seveas> SillyZ, correct
[12:17] <ccooke> ber: Sure.
[12:17] <SillyZ> isnt uninstalling ubuntu desktop a bad thing?
[12:17] <Ber> how you paly all games
[12:17] <Seveas> Ber, I play linux games
[12:17] <Seveas> my favourite is gcc :)
[12:17] <Ber> liek
[12:17] <Ber> like
[12:17] <soulslayer2> uh, i lost my signal
[12:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i play gnometris alot
[12:17] <ccooke> Ber: cedega plays all the games I want at the moment.
[12:18] <Seveas> Ber, xmoto, xgalaga, supertux
[12:18] <Seveas> monkey-bubble :D
[12:18] <ccooke> that, and many of the games I want to play have linux versions
[12:18] <Ber> starcraft??
[12:18] <Jowi> SillyZ: only needed if you're gonna upgrade the system later on. ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove. it is a metapackage
[12:18] <Ber> anyone play starcraft and counterstrike??
[12:18] <ccooke> ber: starcraft used to run under plain wine.
[12:18] <Ber> warcraft 3??
[12:18] <ben_underscore> anyone know anything about openoffice spell checking?
[12:18] <Ng> Ber: I play Counterstrike:Source in cedega
[12:18] <soulslayer2> ok this the error when using make to install ndis http://pastebin.com/491558
[12:19] <ccooke> ber: Warcraft 3 works, I recall. Been months since I installed it, though.
[12:19] <Ber> cedega is it like steAM
[12:19] <ccooke> I tend to find games on linux run faster, though.
[12:19] <Ng> Ber: it's not as fast or as pretty as playing it in Windows, but it means not rebooting and I can still shoot people in the head ;)
[12:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> cedega is for running windows
[12:19] <soulslayer2> kernel sources???
[12:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> prograns,
[12:19] <Seveas> soulslayer2, you don't need to compile ndiswrapper
[12:19] <Ng> Ber: not really, it's a tool you can use to install/play windows games, but you still need the CD or setup.exe or whatever, it doesn't download them for you like Steam does, if that's what you meant
[12:19] <Ber> OK so the grafick is worser??
[12:19] <Seveas> !tell soulslayer2 about ndiswrapper
[12:19] <ccooke> Neverwinter Nights, for instance, runs faster at higher resolutions than the windows version.
[12:20] <ccooke> ber: The graphics are usually the same.
[12:20] <Ng> ccooke: that depends what hardware features the games use - Source uses way more shader stuff in Windows ime
[12:21] <Ber> ok
[12:21] <soulslayer2> but anyway is important to have that kernel sources, in the future ill maybe need to compile other programs
[12:21] <Seveas> soulslayer2, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:21] <Ber> how to PROGRESS going to fix it for gamers is it going to be solved
[12:21] <Ber> ??
[12:21] <ccooke> ber: taking the example of NWN: under linux it's just about playable at 1920x1200 with all the graphics enabled. Under windows... it crashes if you try to run it at anything over 1280x1024, and it runs slower *Then*.
[12:21] <morphix> when i start Firefox 1.5 (i followed the install guide) i get a Chrome registration failed
[12:22] <morphix> what is that.. and how do i fix it?
[12:22] <ccooke> ber: is what going to be solved?
[12:22] <Ber> compatility
[12:22] <soulslayer2> linux-headers are alredy installed
[12:22] <Ber> to all game
[12:22] <SillyZ> hmm libstdc++5 missing on skype install
[12:22] <Ber> s
[12:22] <soulslayer2> i checked that
[12:22] <ubuntu__> .
[12:22] <Jowi> Ber: ask the companies that produce the games
[12:23] <ccooke> ber: Will never happen until linux has a large enough userbase to get all games released on it.
[12:23] <chun_> hi all, i have tried to change the resolution in xorg.conf and have restarted X, but nothing has changed:/ there is also no error at the xorg log, any ideas?
[12:23] <soulslayer2> and build essential to
[12:23] <ccooke> ber: wine/cedega do a very good job, but there are limits to what is possible.
[12:23] <morphix> when linux becomes the most common os.. just think of the viruses :/
[12:23] <soulslayer2> Seveas: what do you think
[12:23] <JackJ> does anyone know how to mount a partiion using the live cd
[12:24] <ccooke> and they're always running behind, since they have to reverse engineer things
[12:24] <Ng> morphix: even if that happens the impact is greatly reduced because people don't log in as root
[12:24] <sdaserver> how does one become root using the gnome terminal?
[12:24] <morphix> yeh thats true
[12:24] <Jowi> !tell sdaserver about sudo
[12:24] <morphix> but there would still be a way around things
[12:24] <morphix> as much things
[12:24] <morphix> most*
[12:24] <soulslayer2> and, in folder media doesnt appear the storage media
[12:24] <JackJ> im trying to install grub, and im using the live cd, and it wont let me mount my partition
[12:25] <soulslayer2> no disks, no usb mem \, no nothing
[12:25] <zool2005> mcphail, I've found a script for shredder and inserted it into ....nautilus scripts, what now?
[12:25] <soulslayer2> to hard for me
[12:25] <soulslayer2> to hard for me
[12:25] <soulslayer2> i cant compile and i cant acces my pen drive
[12:26] <JackJ> disk manager reads my disks as innaccessiable in live cd
[12:26] <soulslayer2> i have a lot to learn
[12:26] <Ng> morphix: true, but there will be many people on many different distros - we have LUA *and* heterogeny on our side ;)
[12:26] <Ber> """Will never happen until linux has a large enough userbase to get all games released on it.""  os when linux gorves bigger it is posseble+????
[12:26] <morphix> lol
[12:26] <morphix> compared to windows total unsecure system
[12:27] <soulslayer2> guys, is there any wiki page that explain how to use pen drives
[12:27] <soulslayer2> and is there any wiki about compiling???
[12:27] <CanYouHelpMePlz> soulslayer2: plugging it in doesnt work?
[12:27] <morphix> Ber: there has to be enuf of us on linux wanting to play games ON LINUX for the creators to decide to make a linux based game.. they are thinking of where they can make money..
[12:27] <JackJ> can someone please help me out here, im trying to reinstall grub from live cd, but it wont let me mount my drives
[12:27] <soulslayer2> nope, doesnt work
[12:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> soulslayer2: odd, my ipod nano, flash memory card, usb pen drive, and samsung mp3 player all work
[12:28] <morphix> if i can find where i put cedega.. i will install it.
[12:28] <Determinist> morphix, as i see it, if a guy can write a virus to use an exploit he found, he can also write a fix. with windows he cant. with linux he can. most days i would tend to think a guy would favour fixing a problem and getting credit for it rather than writing a virus to cause damage
[12:28] <Ber> i think so in the future  will inux be the right choose to everyone!! freedom to the people but for now i stick to windows , i have no hard feelings caz i just want to play, but i like linux alot
[12:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Determinist: thats a great point!
[12:28] <Jowi> morphix: maybe we should release a distro that open up all ports, with no firewall, root password activated (password "root") or all commands can be run as user and we market it as Windows compatible...?
[12:28] <app> Seveas, I installed your mirrors with custom section, but no skype with apt-cache search?
[12:28] <soulslayer2> the error is: mount point none doesnt exist
[12:29] <morphix> lol me to Ber.. except.. i have linux installed on a removabe usb hdd.. and when i wanna play games.. i just boot windows back up :)
[12:29] <Ber> in time.... you can change the world on one day// mattias r
[12:29] <Determinist> CanYouHelpMePlz, thanks.
[12:29] <JackJ> is their anyone here who can please help me with the mounting disks in the live cd?
[12:29] <zool2005> can anyone tell me how to use a script I have inserted into /nautilus scripts please?
[12:30] <morphix> Jowi, LOL bugger that.. i prefer the cleaner, secure linux :)
[12:30] <Determinist> it just makes sense to me that people would drop their anarchistic way of thinking if they really felt they could make a difference. that is not the case when a bunch of millionairs in their ivory towers control how we use computers.
[12:30] <Jowi> morphix: coward. lol
[12:30] <Ber> but i gonna use firefox, and i know more users start to do that (windows user
[12:31] <Ber> so step by step
[12:31] <Ber> but it relly need  to be more kompatible
[12:31] <JackJ> is their anyone here who can please help me with the mounting disks in the live cd?
[12:31] <Seveas> app, skype is in extras, not in custom
[12:31] <morphix> JackJ, whats the problem?
[12:31] <Ber> so hold out you linux people out there
[12:31] <Ber> soon the  you have master the world
[12:32] <teroedni> i
[12:32] <JackJ> morphix: Im trying to reinstall grub, cause i installed windows on another partition and it fucks the boot loader, anyway, im on the live cd trying to install it, and it wont let me mount my drives
[12:32] <morphix> what exactly does it say?? (like an error??)
[12:33] <JackJ> i go to system < admin < disks and it says inaccessiable
[12:33] <Ber> but even if windows is shit , people like me dont care if  we must downgrade (only in games) to linux, but atleast i have tryed to konvince them to convert to linux .
[12:33] <morphix> Ber: how is going from windows to linux DOWNGRADING??
[12:33] <morphix> linux > windows
[12:34] <JackJ> regualar ubuntu reads the drives no problem, but it cant read them on live cd
[12:34] <JackJ> and i need that to install grub
[12:34] <Ber> "care if  we must downgrade (only in games)"   games only
[12:34] <Ber> everything else is better
[12:34] <sdaserver> i still can't figure out root
[12:34] <Ber> linux is better on everything, exept Games
[12:34] <Ber> caz of the companys that makes them
[12:34] <morphix> sdaserver, to login as root in terminal do, su
[12:35] <JackJ> morphix: have any ideas?
[12:35] <selinium> morphix, for games windows>linux  only because that all gamers have windows machines, will will soon start seeing great linux game releases hopefully!
[12:35] <Jowi> sdaserver: root is not active as such. to get a "root" terminal, type "sudo -i" and type in your user password.
[12:35] <Ber> in time i will convert
[12:35] <SillyZ> Ive yet to find anything I cant do in windows, in linux, and Im an amateur radio operator to boot
[12:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> SillyZ: like ham radio?
[12:35] <morphix> selinium, yeh thats the ONLY good thing about windows.. well maybe windows's easability.. but THATS IT
[12:35] <selinium> ping ajmitch...
[12:35] <SillyZ> convert now, or fall forever, you shall never arise -- riddick
[12:36] <SillyZ> CanYouHelpMePlz, aye like HAM Radio
[12:36] <sdaserver> jowi: thanks
[12:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> SillyZ: i see, how is that?
[12:36] <selinium> morphix, I am an old M$ user, I haven't used it since I discovered Ubuntu! Long live the revolution! :D
[12:36] <soulslayer2> What happen if i use apt-get linux-source-2.6.....??????????????
[12:36] <Jowi> sdaserver: all is explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:36] <SillyZ> CanYouHelpMePlz, love it, matter of fact ran into another 'ham' in here the other night, Jared was his name
[12:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> SillyZ: i see, how does it work you just switch freq's and ask if anyone is around
[12:36] <soulslayer2> that will give me the kernel source??
[12:37] <soulslayer2> ??
[12:37] <Ber> ""selinium morphix, I am an old M$ user, I haven't used it since I discovered Ubuntu! Long live the revolutio"" you have right and  understand me, if you dont care about games linux is mutch better
[12:37] <Ber> i think
[12:37] <dukebody> i have problems when redirecting azureus or my ftp server through NAT does anybody know how to check linux isn't blocking connections instead of my router?
[12:37] <SillyZ> CanYouHelpMePlz, all depends on what your trying to accomplish, a contest, an award, general rag-chewing, storm spotting, hurricane nets, etc, etc
[12:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> SillyZ: can you do it on the pc? or not
[12:38] <Jowi> soulslayer2: yeah, it will be in a tar.gz package in /usr/src
[12:38] <soulslayer2> somebody knows???
[12:38] <Ber> kompetision is what making linux better
[12:38] <SillyZ> yes, there are several applications in linux that allow for 'rig' control , grig is one for example
[12:38] <soulslayer2> jowi: and then i use tar, and... can i compile after uncompress
[12:38] <SillyZ> www.N9NU.net has a complete list of stuff, good guy too, know him from #mandrake
[12:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> SillyZ: ill have to get one, would i be able to talk to other ham users? i have a microphone and all that jazz :-)
[12:39] <Ber> buy everyone and good luck
[12:39] <SillyZ> CanYouHelpMePlz, join #sillyz please
[12:39] <Ber> thanks for all help
[12:39] <Jowi> soulslayer2: if you want to compile your own kernel, yes.
[12:39] <sdaserver> ok, how about turning the ubuntu machine into a Internet gateway?
[12:40] <pinkisntwell> gnome writes iso's, does it write cue's and bin's too?
[12:41] <soulslayer2> jowi: i just need to fix this problem http://pastebin.com/491558
[12:41] <writer> Hi all!
[12:41] <writer> How kill process?
[12:41] <soulslayer2> the only thing i need is to compile, just for learning porpouses
[12:41] <GenghisKhan> write: kill <pid>
[12:42] <writer> I type kill <pid> and nothing
[12:42] <Jowi> soulslayer2: aren't you overcomplicating things? i think ndiswrapper is ready to be used in the repos
[12:42] <Jowi> !ndiswrapper
[12:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:43] <soulslayer2> no, i understand i will use that method, but if in the future i need to compile something and this happens..../??????????????
[12:44] <soulslayer2> jowi: im not overcomplicating i just want to learn the solution to this kind of problems, im very, very novice
[12:44] <app> Is there any way to change the Skype font? (Yes, yes, I will be asking at the Skype forums...)
[12:45] <Jowi> soulslayer2: i have compiled tons of stuff (including custom kernel) but not my own kernel module, i think this ndiswrapper is an exceptional case.
[12:45] <Jowi> soulslayer2: nothing standard about it
[12:45] <spacey_ki> soulslayer2, just follow the howto, thats the solution
[12:46] <SweetestSavage> Can anyone tell me why my sound just cut out randomly?
[12:46] <SweetestSavage> The last application that used my sound device was "xfmedia", and it was used to play a video. I just closed it, and now sound doesn't work period.
[12:46] <mcphail> app: yes, wait a moment..
[12:47] <Jowi> app: qtconfig
[12:47] <soulslayer2> ok, thanks everybody, ill try with the how to, wish me good luck maybe next time i could be talking using ubuntu. thanks.
[12:47] <Myrtti> good luck
[12:48] <mcphail> app: you need to create a file called $HOME/.qt/qtrc ...
[12:48] <JoeBlow> does anyone know of a wiki for converting a ntfs partion to fat within ubuntu
[12:48] <morphix> i installed the 'SysTray' thingy.. to hopefully get xchat to minimize.. but erm.. how do i get it xchat to minimize there?
[12:48] <morphix> is doesnt seem to work
[12:49] <spacey_ki> morphix, there is an xchat applet
[12:49] <spacey_ki> if you have that one
[12:49] <spacey_ki> just double click on the icon
[12:49] <mcphail> app: and enter something like: (first line) [General] 
[12:49] <sdaserver> anyone: how do you turn an ubuntu machine into an internet gateway?
[12:49] <mcphail> app: and on second line: font=Bitstream Vera Sans Mono,9,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
[12:49] <morphix> huh? spacey_ki
[12:50] <morphix> spacey_ki, what icon?
[12:50] <JoeBlow> does anyone know of a wiki for converting a ntfs partion to fat within ubuntu
[12:50] <mcphail> app: (obviously change the font to your preference)
[12:50] <Jowi> app: qtconfig is way easier
[12:50] <spacey_ki> morphix, you wanted xchat to "minimalize" to system tray right?
[12:50] <morphix> spacey_ki, yes
[12:50] <spacey_ki> and you installed xchat-systray?
[12:51] <morphix> apparently so
[12:51] <spacey_ki> morphix, did you load the plugin?
[12:51] <morphix> plugin??
[12:51] <spacey_ki> hmm
[12:52] <ndlovu> hi all. I got a question from somebody who wants to install thin clients in a community centre. how good is ubuntu in a thin client environment?
[12:52] <spacey_ki> not sure if thats needed
[12:52] <spacey_ki> i have it myself at least
[12:52] <spacey_ki> morphix, simple restart of xchat didn't help?
[12:52] <morphix> err dunno i'm about to restart.
[12:52] <morphix> 'sec
[12:52] <morphix> erm..
[12:53] <morphix> come up with systray config corrupted.. now i am in a dialog.. having to reconfigure it all
[12:53] <Jowi> sdaserver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection
[12:54] <twitch> hello?
[12:54] <Jowi> hi twitch
[12:54] <SweetestSavage> Can anyone tell me why my sound just cut out randomly?
[12:54] <morphix> GRR
[12:54] <SweetestSavage> The last application that used my sound device was "xfmedia", and it was used to play a video. I just closed it, and now sound doesn't work period.
[12:54] <morphix> i set the settings
[12:54] <morphix> but it still wont minimize
[12:54] <Seveas> SweetestSavage, lsof /dev/dsp
[12:54] <twitch> can anyone tell me where the meta file for GNOME bit torrent is? im using a live cd of 5.04
[12:54] <JoeBlow> is their anyway to change the format of a ntfs partition in linux?
[12:54] <SillyZ> have a good one yall
[12:54] <SillyZ> nite
[12:55] <SweetestSavage> Seveas,  WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[12:55] <SweetestSavage>       Output information may be incomplete.
[12:55] <apokryphos> joe_alf: yes, format it to something else
[12:55] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: use sudo
[12:55] <Seveas> JoeBlow, bot without losing data
[12:55] <SweetestSavage> Oh.. whoops.
[12:55] <SweetestSavage> Yeah I knew that.. *slaps self*
[12:55] <JoeBlow> Seveas: thats ok
[12:55] <JoeBlow> Seveas: its a blank drive
[12:55] <Seveas> JoeBlow, mkfs
[12:55] <twitch> bit torrent? meta file? anyone?
[12:55] <JoeBlow> Seveas: how do i do it
[12:55] <Seveas> twitch, what do you mean with bittorent metafile?
[12:55] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: gparted
[12:55] <Seveas> JoeBlow, mkfs -t the_type_you_want /dev/yourdisk
[12:55] <SweetestSavage> Seveas, alright.. I did that. Nothing.. happened though. What result am I expecting?
[12:56] <morphix> i give up.
[12:56] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: how about sudo lsof /deb/dsp* /dev/snd* ?
[12:56] <JoeBlow> Seveas: so mkfs -t fat32 /dev/hdb6
[12:56] <app> I am running qtconfig to change Skype font. But I don't get it. The default font in qtconfig is  already minuscule, but Skype fonts are too big??
[12:56] <Seveas> JoeBlow, that should work
[12:57] <mrkoje_> hello hello!
[12:57] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, status error on /deb/dsp*, no such file or directory.
[12:57] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: *dev
[12:57] <apokryphos> hi mrkoje
[12:57] <twitch> bit torrent comes up with a file veiwer and asks me to find and open a meta file
[12:57] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos.. oh man =/ It totally shows that it's 5am. Sorry, I should have corrected that one myself x.O
[12:58] <apokryphos> =)
[12:58] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, still nothing =/
[12:58] <twitch> "open location for BitTorrent meta file".....? what do i do
[12:58] <apokryphos> very weird
[12:58] <app> Hey, qtconfig did work, it was just very confusing...
[12:58] <JoeBlow> Seveas:mkfs.fat32: No such file or directory
[12:58] <app> Thanks Jowi and others....
[12:59] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, yeah.. I don't know why but my sound just.. stopped working. However, my input device (microphone) works just fine.
[12:59] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: vfat
[12:59] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: wouldn't be so surprising as they'd use different /dev entries. Still, if the sound device was busy you'd think that command would show it.
[12:59] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, I managed to figure it out o_o
[01:00] <apokryphos> oh?
[01:00] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, the PCM volume setting on my OSS device was at zero.. I turned it up and it's back.. I don't even know how that happened.
[01:00] <apokryphos> heh
[01:00] <Jowi> app: you're welcome
[01:00] <twitch> so i guess noone can help me
[01:00] <Jowi> twitch: never seen that before
[01:01] <JoeBlow> apokryphos: it says mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[01:01] <JoeBlow>  , but now it wont let me mount the drive, and it still says in administration < disks, ntfs
[01:01] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, what's the difference between ALSA and OSS? (Alsa is referred to as a "mixer" in the volume control..)
[01:01] <twitch> its a live disk would anyone be able to tell me where the bittorrent directory is and ill just look through there
[01:01] <Jowi> twitch: maybe take a screenshot and post it on the pastebin
[01:01] <Jowi> !pastebin
[01:01] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:01] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: what's the exact command you're entering?
[01:01] <twitch> paste bin?
[01:02] <morphix> i just installed openbox.. how do i logout of gnome and login to openbox??
[01:02] <allison_1984> guys, do you think its normal that my cd drive locks up when a cd is in, and I can only open the drive by going the long way (right click on cd rom icon and eject) ?....mood (hmmmm...)
[01:02] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, even though I managed to get sound to work.. it's really.. odd. Like, one of the sides is really low volume.. and it.. echoes o_O
[01:02] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: a lot of things :D. Google can help 8)
[01:02] <JoeBlow> apokryphos: mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1
[01:02] <twitch> where is the paste bin?
[01:02] <Jowi> morphix: logout of gnome. openbox should be in the session list in gdm
[01:03] <morphix> ok i hope so
[01:03] <morphix> brb.
[01:03] <Jowi> morphix: you might need to ... ehhh.... c u
[01:03] <allison_1984> Twitch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:03] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: look through alsamixer and check the settings out; see if anything's sed odd there
[01:03] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: with sudo, right? And you get no errors?
[01:04] <JoeBlow> apokryphos: right with sudo, and it says only mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[01:04] <JoeBlow>  after i do it
[01:04] <twitch> ok i posted a screenshot on paste bin
[01:05] <Mabus06> allison_1984, I don't know if that's how it's supposed to work, but my cdrom does the same sometimes
[01:05] <Jowi> twitch: give us the link to the page please
[01:05] <morphix> erm..
[01:05] <twitch> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6641
[01:05] <morphix> i'm in openbox.. but i cant do anything
[01:05] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, where can I view the settings?
[01:05] <morphix> except right click web browser and terminal (i'm in irssi-text in terminal)
[01:05] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: very weird; perhaps consider using gparted.
[01:05] <morphix> i click obconf... and nothing happens
[01:05] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: in terminal: alsamixer
[01:06] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, oops.. sorry, I figured it out.. silly XMMS.. it had a nasty plugin enabled.
[01:06] <pjpeter2005> hi can anyone help me i have  a serial mouse on my com port and it is not working in ubuntu
[01:06] <Jowi> twitch: so, let me get this straight. you clicked on a .torrent file in firefox and that window popped up?
[01:06] <allison_1984> Mabus06: alright then, I thought I was the only one.....
[01:06] <JoeBlow> apokryphos: ok , can i find that in synaptic
[01:06] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: using xmms? Ah, of course that is the bug ;-)
[01:06] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: yes; it might be installed on ubuntu by default, I think.
[01:06] <twitch> no i went to applications and clicked on GNOME bit torrent and that came up
[01:06] <twitch> im tryin to open bit torrent to get a file
[01:07] <twitch> i have to download it
[01:07] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, I like XMMS >_> I'd use amaroK, but I'm running GNOME, and I don't like KDE
[01:07] <JoeBlow> apokryphos: now it wont even let me mount the drive
[01:07] <Jowi> twitch: oh. ok. i think that the app ask for the location of the bittorrent files you want to *host*, not download
[01:07] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: there's still better alternatives; anything's better than xmms :P
[01:07] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, how so? I haven't heard of anything better =P
[01:07] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: still, bit of a shame you shouldn't use an application because you don't like its DE
[01:07] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: beep, rhythmbox
[01:07] <twitch> but how do i cancel that and open the app
[01:08] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, well, as far as I know it won't work o.O
[01:08] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: what are you using to mount it? Does sudo fdisk -l  definitely suggest it's still ntfs?
[01:08] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, that is, running under GNOME
[01:08] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: no! Any kde app runs under gnome :)
[01:08] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, oh really? Hmm =) So what would you recommend then?
[01:08] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, just a silly assumption I guess
[01:08] <pjpeter2005> can some help me i need to get my mouse to work
[01:08] <JoeBlow> apokryphos: the admin tools disk
[01:08] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: personally I'd only ever use JuK or amaroK
[01:09] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, the reason I use XMMS is because it's like winAMP. I'll check out amaroK
[01:09] <gookie> hi! how do I add drop shadows to my windows and dialog boxes? i've seen cool screenshots with those features. thx
[01:10] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: everyone does, originally. Takes some time to get over that hurdle of "it's OK to use things that aren't like XMMS when they're infinitely better" :P
[01:10] <morphix> :/
[01:10] <twitch> ?
[01:10] <morphix> can someone help plz?
[01:10] <mrkoje_> anyone try using Hamachi?
[01:10] <apokryphos> gookie: you'd have to get into composite, to have the real ones.  /msg ubotu composite
[01:10] <mrkoje_> Its a great program..
[01:10] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, that's why I switched from Windows to Linux ;)
[01:10] <apokryphos> mrkoje_: what's it for?
[01:11] <morphix> mrkoje_: if u mean hamachi the 'virtual network'?
[01:11] <pjpeter2005> can someone help me with a mouse problem
[01:11] <Jowi> twitch: when you click on a torrent file on the web you will get a question if you want to save the file or run it. chose run with gnome-btdownload and the download of the torrent will start
[01:12] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: there's a Kubuntu repository with the very latest version, if you want it, too.
[01:12] <apokryphos> !amarok 1.3.7
[01:12] <ubotu> amarok 1.3.7 is probably at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[01:12] <twitch> i dont have the link on the net
[01:12] <gookie> apokryphos: thx
[01:12] <twitch> i have to search for it
[01:12] <brrrt> hello
[01:13] <JoeBlow> gparted doesnt read all my drives, whats with that?
[01:13] <Jowi> twitch: if you have saved the .torrent to disk already you use the "Open location for bittorrent meta file" dialog to choose it.
[01:13] <brrrt> is there an easy way to automatically umount and eject CD/DVD's when i press the button on the drive?
[01:13] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, I like to download it using synaptic or apt-get since I'm running the 64-bit version
[01:14] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: yup -- it's a repository, so you can. :)
[01:14] <aftertaf> JoeBlow:  it only shows one physical drive at a time, have you changed the drive to see if you can see the other?
[01:14] <twitch> ok ill find the file on irc channels
[01:14] <apokryphos> (there are amd64 packs made, too)
[01:14] <twitch> thanx tho
[01:14] <Jowi> JoeBlow: not even on the top-right corner?
[01:14] <pjpeter2005> can any help with a mouse problem please
[01:15] <JoeBlow> Jowi: oh, i found it, thanks
[01:15] <Jowi> JoeBlow: :)
[01:15] <aftertaf> :)
[01:15] <Jowi> pjpeter2005: be precise
[01:16] <pjpeter2005> i have a serial mose on com port and it does not move in ubuntu
[01:16] <aftertaf> brrrt:  right-click icon > eject. doesnt that work?
[01:16] <GenghisKhan> pjpeter2005: configure xorg.conf
[01:17] <brrrt> aftertaf: sure that works, but for what di i have an drivebutton then?
[01:17] <mrkoje_> pjpeter2005,  try   cat /dev/mouse
[01:17] <Jowi> pjpeter2005: i think the com port must be specified in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:17] <aftertaf> pjpeter2005:  reconfigure c so it uses it...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, then choose your mouse on ttys0 (i think)
[01:17] <aftertaf> brrrt:  when mounted, you cant eject it.
[01:17] <mrkoje_> pjpeter2005,  if you get any output then it at least kind of works
[01:17] <GenghisKhan> mrkoje_: afaik, serial mouse is on /dev/ttyS0, not /dev/mouse
[01:18] <brrrt> aftertaf: i thought there may be a possibilitiy to recognise when i press the drive button and execute an umount+eject commend at this event
[01:18] <app> BTW, it looks like my sound mostly works ok. The problems I had were probably related to hibernating the machine. I have to monitor the situation. Still, I have troubles with the microphone sound quality, which is much worse than in Windows.
[01:18] <aftertaf> brrrt:  no idea ... ;)
[01:18] <mrkoje_> GenghisKhan,  thanks
[01:18] <brrrt> k, thx
[01:19] <JoeBlow> for some reson it wont let me mount 2 of my drives, whats the command for that in terminal?
[01:19] <GenghisKhan> brrrt: i think it's possible (mandrake did it), but it isn't worth
[01:19] <allison_1984> brrrt: ask mrkoje  , he told me something about configuring /etc/fstab
[01:19] <JoeBlow> for some reson it wont let me mount 2 of my drives, whats the command for that in terminal?
[01:20] <GenghisKhan> JoeBlow: mount /dev/*** /mountpoint
[01:20] <aftertaf> app:  tried hunting through your sound mixer properties? is it too quiet, or bad quality?
[01:20] <aftertaf> !tell JoeBlow about mount
[01:20] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, I like amaroK quite a bit =) Thanks for the suggestion, it's quite nice to look at.
[01:20] <brrrt> GenghisKhan: "but it isn't worth" its not a problem for ME but my GF refuses to switch to linux until this is possible ;)
[01:20] <gentoofans> ubuntu
[01:21] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, the only thing I don't like is how much it lags when you switch songs
[01:21] <GenghisKhan> brrrt: when i used mandrake it had a supermount thingie that did that
[01:21] <Pygi> freaky: ping ping
[01:21] <lowman62> brrrt: do what i did...format, install...anyways...she never will learn not using ;)
[01:21] <aftertaf> brrrt:  upgrade your GF's firmware ;)
[01:21] <Seveas> gentoofans, please stick to english in here
[01:21] <brrrt> LOL
[01:22] <lowman62> my wife loves ubuntu...she hates linux...get it?
[01:22] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[01:22] <Jowi> brrrt: my wife uses ubuntu on her laptop. loves it (and she is NO tech person)
[01:22] <Seveas> lowman62, lol
[01:22] <Myrtti> that reminds me of running my backup scripts
[01:23] <brrrt> well, i'll try to checkout the supermount thingie though... :)
[01:23] <Jowi> brrrt: just put them in fstab so they mount at each boot.
[01:23] <Jowi> !fstab
[01:23] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[01:24] <brrrt> ah
[01:24] <BigKahuna> Anybody using iTunes with crossover office?
[01:24] <GenghisKhan> brrrt: i remember that in mdk 9.1 it sucked. it got stucked often
[01:24] <brrrt> mhm
[01:25] <pjpeter2005> i tried sudo  and it did not work
[01:25] <lowman62> hey that script rocks!
[01:26] <lowman62> :) disks are now mounted permanently yeah!!
[01:26] <Pygi> lowman: hehe :)
[01:26] <brrrt> yes looks quite useful !!
[01:26] <lowman62> brrrt: worked like a charm on breezy
[01:27] <tyler_> may i know why i CANNOT cut n paste with my mouse in my newly installed slack!!???
[01:27] <Jowi> tyler_: if you ask in #slackware maybe :)
[01:28] <Pygi> tyler: huh, this is not slackware :P you installed gdm and such mosuey thingies?
[01:30] <lowman62> i have ran ubuntu now for 68 days as trial..very few problems to say the least..this machine has not required rebooting once since install other than restarting x...this rocks!
[01:30] <writer> how kill proces
[01:30] <writer> i write in root terminal #kill 7846  and proces 7846 is life!
[01:30] <Seveas> writer, try kill -9
[01:30] <GenghisKhan> writer: kill -9 7846
[01:31] <writer> GenghisKhan: Thanks, i try it
[01:31] <Jowi> lowman62: then it's time to install a new kernel! hehe
[01:32] <lowman62> Jowi: if it aint broken I aint fixin it...I run mandrake on another machine 7.0 version no updates cuz it works with that machine for some reason so i leave it be
[01:32] <GenghisKhan> lowman62: mdk 7.0 software is very outdated
[01:32] <Jowi> lowman62: stop being so resonable
[01:33] <lowman62> i might stick ubuntu on it though ...hmmm I feeling froggy
[01:33] <Seveas> lowman62, but it is broken, there are security updates..
[01:33] <werty> need help with gpm...
[01:33] <lowman62> nah! i am not concerned with security on that machine...it has not internet access
[01:34] <JoeBlow> i heard their is a program for linux where u can run windows in a window on the desktop, anyone heard of it?
[01:34] <werty> plz help
[01:34] <Pygi> JoeBlow: qemu
[01:34] <lowman62> JoeBlow it is called wine
[01:34] <JoeBlow> Pygi: thats it, thanks
[01:34] <Mabus06> that isn't how I'd describe wine
[01:34] <JoeBlow> i was tlaking about qemu
[01:34] <Pygi> JoeBlow: yw
[01:34] <lowman62> oh sorry you mean windows..ya hold on i know the name of it
[01:34] <Pygi> lowman: QEMU :P
[01:34] <lowman62> that's it
[01:35] <JoeBlow> Pygi got you beat
[01:35] <JoeBlow> lol
[01:35] <JoeBlow> anyone used it?
[01:35] <albacker> Hi
[01:35] <lowman62> <--has a mem leak this morning :P
[01:35] <frogzoo> I installed a few packages and now Ubuntu won't boot - pkgs were snort, honeyd, & nessus - any ideas? kind of hard to trace where boot's failing
[01:35] <Ng> I've only used qemu to run linux on windows ;)
[01:35] <Pygi> JoeBlow: yup :P Why I got beaten ? :P
[01:35] <Mabus06> Nope, I use wine.
[01:35] <Ng> but it seemed to work ok
[01:35] <tyler_> must i install/sompile tarballs as root always?
[01:35] <Ng> I would think that for anything but games it'd be ok, if a bit slow and memory hungry
[01:35] <JoeBlow> Pygi: u beat him to the answer lol
[01:35] <Mabus06> For games use wine.
[01:35] <Pygi> Joe: ah :P
[01:35] <Jowi> tyler_: on Slackware or Ubuntu?
[01:36] <GenghisKhan> Ng: you can't run games on qemu, it won't do 3d
[01:36] <Pygi> Mabus: no, for games use cvsCedega :)
[01:36] <JoeBlow> oh rellay?
[01:36] <JoeBlow> damn
[01:36] <Ng> GenghisKhan: I said "for anything but games" :)
[01:36] <tyler_> Jowi, slax...
[01:36] <JoeBlow> i was planning on using it for games
[01:36] <Seveas> tyler_, ask in #slckware
[01:36] <Pygi> JoeBlow: use cvsCedega for that
[01:36] <Jowi> tyler_: you should go to a slax channel
[01:36] <tyler_> i will love ubuntu but mi pc is 233mhjz
[01:36] <JoeBlow> is it free?
[01:36] <tyler_> :(
[01:36] <Mabus06> Pygi, I've never used cedega, what's different?
[01:36] <Pygi> tyler, I answered you :P
[01:36] <GenghisKhan> Ng: sorry, i misread :-)
[01:36] <lowman62> i use wine to run adobe photoshop on ubuntu runs perfect
[01:36] <Pygi> Joeblow: CVS edition is free...
[01:36] <JoeBlow> alright cool
[01:36] <Pygi> Mabus: well, it's intented for games :)
[01:36] <GenghisKhan> Mabus06: cedega has better d3d support
[01:36] <JoeBlow> and can i run them off a ntfs partition
[01:36] <Pygi> JoeBlow: just a second, I'll give you a link
[01:37] <Pygi> no , you cant use ntfs partition
[01:37] <LathropWells> Cedega is nearly pain free to install and add other apps/games
[01:37] <JoeBlow> Pygi: alright
[01:37] <frogzoo> when my lappie tries to boot - it says can't find minix module & craps out - what would be loading minix though?
[01:37] <Pygi> joeblow: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 ..........there :)
[01:37] <JoeBlow> ive been trying to create a vfat partition to put my games on, but after i format the drives, it wont ever let me mount them
[01:37] <LathropWells> You can keep cedegacvs - 5 dollars a month is worth the time savings
[01:37] <Pygi> frogzoo: this is not a minix channel  :/
[01:38] <frogzoo> Pygi: wise guy huh?
[01:38] <frogzoo> minix is a file system
[01:38] <Pygi> frogzoo: no, I am not wise :)
[01:38] <Jowi> JoeBlow: "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hd?? /media/mountpoint" doesn't work
[01:38] <Jowi> ?
[01:38] <Mabus06> Pygi, better to be considered a smartass than a dumbass.
[01:39] <Pygi> Mabus: huh :/
[01:39] <JoeBlow> Jowi: I used gparted
[01:39] <lowman62> Mabus06: so true LOL :P
[01:39] <LathropWells> !ntfs
[01:39] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:39] <Mabus06> Use tell, LathropWells
[01:39] <Mabus06> Us using the lower resolutions would appreciate it... lol
[01:39] <Jowi> JoeBlow: in gparted you must "Apply" the changes. then quit gparted and try
[01:40] <fek> 271 packages upgraded, 13532 newly installed, 67 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:40] <LathropWells> !tell mabus thank you
[01:40] <fek> wtf?
[01:40] <Mabus06> !tell LathropWells about tell
[01:41] <Mabus06> lol @ fek
[01:41] <LathropWells> !tell mabus i am tired
[01:41] <twitch101> is there a program that can burn isos or any other file on the 5.04 live cd?
[01:41] <Jowi> !tell Mabus06 about resolution
[01:41] <fek> Unpacking replacement gvlc ...
[01:41] <fek> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gvlc_0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3_i386.deb (--unpack):
[01:41] <Pygi> Lathrop: Do not abuse ubotu please
[01:41] <fek>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/applications/gvlc.desktop', which is also in package vlc
[01:41] <fek> grrr
[01:41] <LathropWells> !botsnack
[01:41] <ubotu> :)
[01:41] <Pygi> twich: gnome baker or somethin'
[01:41] <Pygi> no ,do not abuse ubotu
[01:41] <Mabus06> Jowi, I'm using my second monitor, it's a TV. I need the low resolution to read text.
[01:41] <MaX_sT91> Hola buenas
[01:41] <LathropWells> is he on a diet?
[01:41] <twitch101> how do i run its not in apps
[01:42] <MaX_sT91> Lol
[01:42] <Jowi> Mabus06: so true.
[01:42] <LathropWells> !es
[01:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:42] <twitch101> comand for running "gnome baker"?
[01:42] <Pygi> huh, well install it first twitch
[01:42] <lowman62> LOL
[01:43] <twitch101> u said it was on the live cd
[01:43] <Pygi> lowman: everything's funny to you, isn't it? :)
[01:43] <frogzoo> can anyone point a reasonably clued linux user to how to debug a lappie failing to boot - loads kernel & then fails before mounting file systems
[01:43] <Jowi> twitch101: type in the first few letters and press <tab> twice for all apps starting with those letters.
[01:43] <Pygi> twitch: ah :P
[01:44] <lowman62> Well having a sense of humor is the spice of life. :P
[01:44] <twitch101> so is chile peppers....
[01:44] <Pygi> frogzoo: what seems to be the exact problem? have you try scanning/fixing disc?
[01:44] <Mabus06> stop getting me hungry...
[01:44] <Jowi> frogzoo: an error message would be useful
[01:44] <Mabus06> Pygi, if he knew the exact problem, he'd probably be fixing it. ;-)
[01:44] <lowman62> i would have to take prilosec with that LOL
[01:45] <frogzoo> Pygi: from the grub boot screen, is says loading modules, then craps out saying couldn't load minix module - can't see why it would need it though, never have b4
[01:45] <twitch101> well umm...im tryin to find the downloado n ubuntu cuz i cant use the synaptic thing
[01:46] <Mabus06> twitch101, can't use synaptic, why?
[01:47] <Jowi> frogzoo: are you using a custom kernel?
[01:47] <twitch101> live cd with no hard drive
[01:47] <twitch101> only external and im about to drop that into my xbox
[01:48] <Pygi> frogzoo: just a sec please, I'll take a look at it now
[01:48] <Mabus06> Was anyone chatting in here for new years? Heh.
[01:48] <frogzoo> Jowi: nope stock 686 - & I've tried the stock 386 too - I think something I installed has munged the init scripts, but dunno what
[01:49] <Whistler> hello
[01:49] <Whistler> is there any video converting app which can resize the resoliution and format of the video?
[01:49] <Pygi> frogzoo: do you have that module ?
[01:50] <Pygi> maybe it fails because it doesnt exist...
[01:50] <Jowi> frogzoo: ok. is minix listed in /etc/modules? do you have a minix reference in /etc/fstab?
[01:50] <frogzoo> Pygi: nope - that's why it's failing - but I don't use a minix file system - so it's wierd it would ask 4 it
[01:50] <frogzoo> Jowi: 1/2 sec I'll check
[01:50] <JoeBlow> yea for some reason it wont let me mount certain partitions
[01:50] <Jowi> frogzoo: also look for minix in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:51] <Pygi> frogzoo: do as Jowi told you.... look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:52] <Jared> hello
[01:52] <Whistler> i wanna resize video clip. Is there any apps for that?
[01:52] <frogzoo> no minix in any of those files - qsn - is minix related to the suspend function in any way?
[01:52] <Jowi> frogzoo, Pygi: could it be the initrd that is messed up?
[01:52] <JoeBlow> has anyone had a problem where u cant mount a partition
[01:53] <frogzoo> Jowi: I've tried 2 kernels, so I guess init is good
[01:53] <albacker> configure: error: Package requirements (libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.1 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met.
[01:53] <Jowi> frogzoo: do both of them use the same initrd?
[01:53] <Jared> i am about to get windows xp and i'm going to do a dual boot........how would i do it?
[01:53] <Pygi> Jowi: maybe some remains from old installation or somethn'? have you ever had that FS?
[01:54] <frogzoo> Jowi: I though init was part of the kernel?
[01:54] <onkarshinde> Jared: Do you have XP installed already?
[01:54] <Jared> no......
[01:54] <spotted> Salve
[01:54] <spotted> Hello
[01:54] <Jowi> frogzoo: initrd loads modules into RAM before the real kernel takes over i think
[01:54] <Pygi> Jared:huh, win will erase the mbr :/
[01:54] <spotted> Can anyone pls tell me how to add a kernel to the original ubuntu cd?
[01:54] <onkarshinde> Jared: Install XP first, keep some partition for Ubuntu (about 10 GB) and then install Ubuntu
[01:55] <onkarshinde> spotted: why do you want to do that?
[01:55] <Jared> would i need to wipe out my harddrive then partition it for windows then after i install windows then install ubuntu
[01:55] <Pygi> spotted: there is a kernel on the cd :/ or you want a custom one?
[01:55] <Jared> like that...............how would the dual boot work
[01:55] <Jared> ?
[01:55] <Pygi> Jared: exactly
[01:55] <spotted> I have got a friend of mine with a software raid, so I need to learn how to add a kernel to the cd with the needed patch
[01:55] <spotted> Pygi, I need to add a custom one because he needs a patch for raid 0
[01:55] <frogzoo> Jowi: yep, but that's part of /boot/initrd.img - -so it's different with each kernel
[01:55] <newbie_ubuntu> join #ubuntu-nl
[01:55] <spotted> Pygi, mandrive has the patch in, ubuntu does not.
[01:55] <onkarshinde> Jared: No need to wipe out entire hard disk if you already have more than two partitions. Ubuntu takes care of dual boot
[01:56] <Whistler> i wanna resize video clip. Is there any apps for that?
[01:56] <Jowi> frogzoo: you got a kernel.stable option in grub to choose?
[01:56] <Pygi> spotted: huh :/
[01:56] <spotted> Pygi, can you help me?
[01:56] <JoeBlow> how do i know what my local mount folder is?
[01:56] <Pygi> JoeBlow: well, its probably "/"
[01:57] <GenghisKhan> Whistler: transcode
[01:57] <Jared> i need to add a partition......i don't know if my whole hdda is ubuntu or what..ugh it will stink if it is
[01:57] <Pygi> spotted: no, never done it on install cd, but you can change in on live cd  I think
[01:57] <frogzoo> Jowi: pretty sure it's not a kernel prob - because I have 2 different kernels - both crap out somewhere in /scripts/local-mounts
[01:57] <Jowi> frogzoo: ok. hmm
[01:57] <Whistler> GenghisKhan does it have gui ?
[01:57] <GenghisKhan> Whisler: no, maybe there are frontends
[01:58] <JoeBlow> when i try to mount my ntfs drive it tells me
[01:58] <JoeBlow> sudo mount /dev/hda1
[01:58] <JoeBlow> eerr
[01:58] <onkarshinde> Jared: Do you mean you already have Ubuntu installed?
[01:58] <JoeBlow> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[01:58] <JoeBlow>        missing codepage or other error
[01:58] <JoeBlow>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:58] <JoeBlow>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:58] <Jowi> frogzoo: so have a look at the scrips in /etc/init.d if you got a minix script in there, remove its executable bit.
[01:58] <frogzoo> jared if you only have 2 other partitions, I'd recommend swap & /home - /home is essential when it's time to upgrade/reinstall
[01:58] <onkarshinde> Whistler: dvdrip is GUI for transcode, not sure it can edit videos
[01:58] <Whistler> GenghisKhan thanks i found the gui
[01:58] <apokryphos> JoeBlow: do not paste in here.
[01:59] <Whistler> gtranscode will do just fine for me
[01:59] <JoeBlow> apokryphos: oh ok, sorry
[01:59] <frogzoo> Jowi: yar, I think I just need to poke around a bit - thx for the help guys :)
[01:59] <Jowi> frogzoo: np
[01:59] <Pygi> frogzoo: where does it says that it fails? any specific partition?
[01:59] <JoeBlow> well can someone help me with my messed up drive
[01:59] <Pygi> !patience
[01:59] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[01:59] <JoeBlow> its just one partition, the rest of the drive works
[01:59] <frogzoo> Pygi: it fails somewhere in the rcS scripts - b4 any fsystems are mounted
[01:59] <JoeBlow> Pygi: uhmm, its an ntfs partition sda1
[02:00] <onkarshinde> Whistler: how about this? http://www.diva-project.org/wiki/Main_Page Will have to install manually
[02:00] <Jared> i only have the partitions for ubuntu
[02:00] <Pygi> frogzoo: hm, try to disable script by script and see which one makes troubles?
[02:00] <JoeBlow> if i format this partition into a new format, it still goes back to ntfs, and wont let me mount it
[02:01] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, there's an annoying beep that amaroK makes when switching tracks, any way to remove this?
[02:01] <Pygi> ubotu tell JoeBlow about ntfs
[02:01] <frogzoo> Pygi: yar, I'll take a poke about, thx pygi
[02:01] <onkarshinde> Jared: May I please know reason for installing XP?
[02:01] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: huh? Never heard of that. What engine are you using?
[02:01] <JoeBlow> Pygi: ive dont the ubuntu wiki, didnt work
[02:01] <Pygi> frogzoo: yw :)
[02:01] <Pygi> JoeBlow: heh :/
[02:01] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, GStreamer using.. osssink
[02:01] <tom> my harddisk performance is very slow. an ls takes the first time about 3 seconds. hdparm -t reports 53.16 MByte/s, so DMA is enabled, but now the machine hangs afterwards and i can't do anything. this is reproducible after a reboot. what could be wrong?
[02:02] <Pygi> JoeBlow: if you want open a ssh server, and I'll help
[02:02] <JoeBlow> Pygi: if u can tell me how to do it
[02:02] <Jared> onkarshidne: i would like to have the versitility of both xp and ubuntu.....that shouldn't be a problem
[02:03] <apokryphos> SweetestSavage: try using the xine engine -- I always do. Though I have no idea what that bleep is.
[02:03] <Pygi> JoeBlow: well, first thing is to delete your partition, and format it afterwards
[02:03] <Jowi> tom: sudo hdparm /dev/hd? to make sure using_dma is 1
[02:03] <pjpeter2005> can anyone tell me the protcol for a com port mouse  and is it /dev/tts0
[02:03] <tom> Jowi: it *IS* on
[02:03] <Jowi> tom: which fs and what type of disk?
[02:03] <onkarshinde> Jared: No problem at all. I dumped XP about 2 years back. Everybody has his own choice. By the way, I can't really help you as I don't know your situation completely. May be you could send a mail with complete details
[02:04] <tom> Jowi: ext3
[02:04] <tom> Jowi: what do you mean by type of disk?
[02:04] <tom> Jowi: it's an internal IDE disk (/dev/hda)
[02:04] <Jowi> tom: sata/ide
[02:04] <Jowi> oh
[02:04] <JoeBlow> Pygi: when i go to delete it, it tells me to unmount all partition higher then 5, but thats where i have my linux partition thats running, so i cant do that
[02:04] <Jared> well onkarshidne i like to do live stream with winamp and i like some webcam software that i use with xp so i would like both
[02:04] <tom> Jowi: it worked okay before downgrading from dapper to breezy :P
[02:05] <kraftwerk_> I need to manually mount my ipod, how do I find out what /dev/foo to use?
[02:05] <spotted> Any information about remastering?
[02:05] <Jowi> tom: have you tried to force check the fs ?
[02:05] <spotted> I just need to know some source for remastering debian/ubuntu basicly
[02:05] <spotted> ubuntu the installation cd not the live cd
[02:05] <SweetestSavage> apokryphos, that removed it, thanks.
[02:06] <onkarshinde> kraftwerk_: if you have to other USB devices attached then use /dev/sda1
[02:06] <_matt> Hi!
[02:06] <kraftwerk_> thx!
[02:06] <onkarshinde> kraftwerk_: But I don't understand why you need to mount it manually.
[02:06] <kraftwerk_> Dapper
[02:06] <Jared> can i get ubuntu to make my usb external hdda be a slave drive?
[02:06] <ibmnotebook> how to update GLIPC?
[02:06] <ibmnotebook> (need version 2.2 or 2.3...)
[02:07] <tom> Jowi: no. how can i reboot in read-only mode to check the root fs?
[02:07] <ibmnotebook> (does glibc 2.2 or 2.3 run on ubuntu?
[02:08] <Jared> onkarshidne..do you know if i can make ubuntu reconize my usb external hdda as a slave drive?
[02:08] <Jowi> tom: to force check it on next boot use "sudo touch /forcefsck"
[02:09] <onkarshinde> Jared: I think that will be default.
[02:09] <Jared> i want my computer to boot from it though.......that is what i want to put winxp on........
[02:09] <app> Ok, next problem. Sometimes accessing our Windows domain file servers work from Nautilus, but currently it just keeps reprompting for username/domain/password and gives no error messages whatsoever.
[02:09] <tom> Jowi: ok thanks. (it took about 5 seconds to touch the file...)
[02:10] <Jowi> tom: man fsck.ext3 will also give some hints :)
[02:10] <app> I have yet to install command line smb tools, that the next thing in debuggin smb...
[02:10] <onkarshinde> Jared: In that case you can add some lines to your /boot/grub/menu.lst to add a Win XP option.
[02:10] <Steve|> whats the difference between the ubuntu install and the ubuntu live
[02:10] <Steve|> http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu/releases/5.10/ <--- from that
[02:11] <onkarshinde> Steve|: I don't think there is any difference
[02:11] <Steve|> so whats the point of having 2 different types..?
[02:11] <onkarshinde> Steve|: you can always do a diff between .list files on mirrors.
[02:12] <bd> exit
[02:12] <onkarshinde> Steve|: Live runs without installation. Directly from CD. Have you never heard of it?
[02:12] <Steve|> nope
[02:12] <Steve|> i'm new to the whole linux stuff
[02:12] <Steve|> i just heard ubuntu is win
[02:12] <apokryphos> huhh?
[02:12] <app> I just must say that proving for our management that a bunch of computer hating business professionals with long experience on Windows can work with Linux is still going to be hard in 2006. Maybe 2007? Or maybe 2017? Or maybe never?
[02:13] <Steve|> win as in good
[02:13] <lowman62> Steve| : the live cd allows you to try out ubuntu before you install it
[02:13] <Jared> YAY I HAVE LIMEWIRE
[02:13] <onkarshinde> Steve|: Ok. A Live CD contains an OS in itself and runs directly from CD provided your computer can boot from CD. These CDs can be used to test OS
[02:13] <Steve|> yeah i get it, thanks
[02:14] <onkarshinde> Steve|: There are loads of live CDs. AFAIK, Knoppix was the first to introduce the idea
[02:14] <Steve|> ah k
[02:14] <snk00sj> does anyone know howto create a new menubar (not based on the default one?)
[02:14] <Steve|> so live cd is not as big as the installation cd?
[02:14] <Steve|> or same size
[02:14] <Steve|> or bigger :|
[02:15] <onkarshinde> Steve|: Same size.
[02:15] <apokryphos> Steve|: live CD has no installation candidate. It installs nothing to the hard-drive -- relies solely on RAM and the CD
[02:15] <Steve|> so say i like it
[02:15] <Steve|> i can just copy it over to the hdd?
[02:15] <Jowi> Steve|: nope, you need an install cd for that
[02:15] <toca> hola
[02:15] <Steve|> oh :|
[02:15] <apokryphos> Steve|: unfortunately, currently you'd have to download+use teh install CD
[02:15] <lowman62> no you need to get the install cd..and you can order cds for free from shipit...I got mine yesterday
[02:16] <Steve|> so whats the advantage of a live cd, other than being able to boot it off the cd
[02:16] <Steve|> lowman62 - how long did it take for you?
[02:16] <toca> hay algun espaol por aqui?
[02:16] <lowman62> to try it out first before installing
[02:16] <onkarshinde> Steve|: In simple terms, the mechanism for running from CD is different from running from HD. So you can't just copy it to your HD
[02:16] <apokryphos> Steve|: that is the advantage.
[02:16] <frogzoo> Steve|: only that you don't have to touch your HD to try ubuntu out
[02:16] <lowman62> Steve| : it took exactly 4 weeks
[02:16] <vega-> Steve|: first time for me took 6 weeks, second time 3 weeks
[02:16] <Jowi> Steve|: to try before install. also good to salvage a broken system. perform checks on another system. aso.
[02:16] <apokryphos> toca: /j #ubuntu-es
[02:16] <Jared> i go to download a song with limewire it says it needs more sources when i go to download it?what do i do
[02:16] <onkarshinde> lowman62: are you on dialup? or did you use torrent?
[02:16] <lowman62> they sent me 5 sets and I gave them all away to my friends to try
[02:17] <Steve|> ah ok
[02:17] <Steve|> cool
[02:17] <Steve|> thanks guys
[02:17] <apokryphos> Jared: try downloading a file that's more popular -- has more users in the  # column
[02:17] <lowman62> I am on a t1 pipe
[02:17] <Jared> i downloaded photograph by nickleback
[02:17] <Jared> what do you mean by has more users in the #column
[02:18] <toca> como em conecto alli?
[02:18] <gepatino> hi everyone
[02:18] <apokryphos> !es
[02:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:18] <Steve|> how big is ubuntu?
[02:19] <apokryphos> Steve|: default installation is 1.8 gigs
[02:19] <Jowi> Steve|: standard install around 1.8GB but uses 3GB for installation
[02:19] <frogzoo> Steve|: 10gigs would be a minimum for desktop use
[02:19] <Steve|> ah k
[02:19] <Jared> ...okay its working
[02:19] <gepatino> I think I have some usefull idea to improve package updates without internet connection
[02:19] <gepatino> where and how should I submit it?
[02:19] <onkarshinde> gepatino: like what?
[02:19] <Steve|> well the ubuntu 5.10 install file says its 715mb... that sound right?
[02:20] <irvin> let's hear it gepatino
[02:20] <frogzoo> Steve|: it depends what pkgs u want to install
[02:20] <gepatino> onkarshinde, many people doesnt have a broadband connection available all the time
[02:20] <Jowi> Steve|: yep. it's compressed on the cd.
[02:20] <gepatino> onkarshinde, irvin (like me)
[02:20] <onkarshinde> Steve|: If you are talking about ISO then I think that is correct.
[02:20] <Whistler> so they can update using cd`s
[02:20] <frogzoo> Steve|: I'd recommend 10gig for /usr & 2gig for /
[02:20] <Steve|> pkgs ?
[02:21] <gepatino> onkarshinde, irvin and it would be great to have some offline updates
[02:21] <onkarshinde> gepatino: I was one of those people before last months
[02:21] <Whistler> if they dont have broadband connection
[02:21] <Steve|> onkarshinde - yeah talking about the iso
[02:21] <frogzoo> Steve|: after u've installed ubuntu - u can add additional packages at any time - just download
[02:21] <irvin> gepatino, lookie here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NonBroadbandUsers
[02:21] <Steve|> could you describe those kind of packages for me
[02:21] <gepatino> I used to use deb-downloader, a bunch of perl scripts that allowed you to download packages in another machine
[02:21] <irvin> gepatino, there's a script already in dapper to do that for you
[02:21] <gepatino> ok
[02:22] <irvin> :-)
[02:22] <frogzoo> Steve|: better if you try it out for yourself - the name of the pkg manager is 'synaptic'
[02:22] <gepatino> I'd rather take a loog first
[02:22] <Steve|> ok
[02:22] <gepatino> a look, sorry
[02:22] <Steve|> thanks
[02:22] <lowman62> Steve| : from a newbie point of view packages are additional software
[02:22] <Steve|> oh i see
[02:22] <onkarshinde> Steve|: It is 617 M
[02:22] <Steve|> oh
[02:22] <Steve|> yep sorry, i was looking at the wrong file
[02:23] <gepatino> irvin, the problem i had with those scripts was that the machine where you want to download the scripts should have perl installes
[02:23] <SweetestSavage> Question: What exactly does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do compared to sudo apt-get update ?
[02:23] <gepatino> irvin, and a cyberbar, you mostly find win machines w/o perl
[02:23] <Steve|> lowman62 - so how do I run windows applications/games/etc on a linux based system?
[02:24] <Whistler> SweetestSavage sudo apt-get update just updates your sources list
[02:24] <gepatino> irvin, so I thought it would be nice to have an ubuntu-to-go update system
[02:24] <irvin> gepatino, i think the script uses wget to download the packages
[02:24] <lowman62> Steve| : I use a emulator called wine
[02:24] <gepatino> irvin, something like this:
[02:24] <Whistler> and dist-upgrade does a system upgrade
[02:24] <Steve|> is it efficient
[02:24] <gerryxiao> hello,all
[02:24] <Steve|> actually i mean
[02:24] <gepatino> irvin, you use synaptic, but instead of downloading files, you just create an update definition file
[02:24] <Steve|> how big of a difference is it when using wine than say just using that windows app on windows
[02:25] <SweetestSavage> Whistler, interesting, so if I was to do dist-upgrade.. would it upgrade my system from breezy to dapper?
[02:25] <gepatino> irvin, then you submit it to a server
[02:25] <gerryxiao> what is ubuntu? any difference with other distros?
[02:25] <lowman62> Steve| : it works for me
[02:25] <Steve|> well like in speed
[02:25] <Whistler> SweetestSavage not yet, but generaly yes
[02:25] <Jared> i like this limewire
[02:25] <gepatino> irvin, the server gathers all the packages for you, creating a big package
[02:25] <irvin> gepatino, it's part of synaptic, File/Generate package download script
[02:25] <onkarshinde> Steve|: It depends on what games you want to play. Talking about other apps, there is always some alternative in Ubuntu
[02:25] <SweetestSavage> Whistler, ah I see.. so when Dapper is ready, I can just do dist-upgrade.. and it will automatically upgrade my system to Dapper?
[02:25] <Steve|> ah ok
[02:25] <gepatino> irvin, and then you download the packages from the website, w/o using wget
[02:25] <lowman62> Steve|: I really don't see any real difference...I mean I use wine for a fixed number of applications that I must use and it works perfectly
[02:25] <irvin> gepatino, you can later import the stuff File/add downloaded package
[02:26] <onkarshinde> gerryxiao: Its all about choice.
[02:26] <app> Looks like our Windows servers maybe only allow Kerberos. We have trouble finding Kerberos support for Nautilus. Any hints?
[02:26] <Whistler> SweetestSavage yeah, you might need to edit your sources.list before
[02:26] <gepatino> irvin, ok, i should have looked :O
[02:26] <Steve|> say like... counter-strike, etf (quake3 mod) or somthing along those lines?
[02:26] <SweetestSavage> Whistler, alrighty, thanks =)
[02:26] <Whistler> np :)
[02:26] <onkarshinde> Steve|: For office, multimedia there are already packages in Ubuntu
[02:26] <gerryxiao> any features specially?
[02:26] <lowman62> Steve|: but I am not a gamer and there maybe something better for games
[02:26] <gerryxiao> onkarshinde?
[02:26] <Steve|> oh ok cool
[02:27] <trappist> Steve|: quake3 runs natively in linux and cs runs in wine
[02:27] <lowman62> Steve|: in the linux world all those things you would normally have to install already come with ubuntu like office software
[02:27] <onkarshinde> gerryxiao: It provides just enough packages for a desktop instead of installing every package available
[02:27] <Steve|> would you guys say ubuntu is smoother/faster than windows?
[02:27] <app> !smb
[02:27] <ubotu> app: Are you smoking crack?
[02:27] <gepatino> irvin, is that in dapper only?
[02:27] <irvin> gepatino, yes
[02:27] <Steve|> ( trappist ): does cs run as smooth or smoother?
[02:27] <irvin> gepatino, it is still under development
[02:27] <app> !ntfs
[02:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[02:27] <Jowi> app: !samba will work
[02:27] <gerryxiao> onkarshinde,that, gentoo can do
[02:28] <app> !samba
[02:28] <ubotu> I guess samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:28] <lowman62> Steve| : I have been running ubuntu now as a test for 68 days without a reboot and with very little problems...this is the most unbroken linux I have used thus so far
[02:28] <onkarshinde> gerryxiao: But you have to compile everything in gentoo not on Ubuntu.
[02:28] <Steve|> lowman62 - i see, sounds good.
[02:28] <trappist> Steve|: technically slightly less smooth, since directx calls are being translated to opengl calls on the fly, as well as win32api calls to their linux counterparts, but you'd have to watch your fps counter pretty close to see the difference
[02:28] <Steve|> haha btw, how is ubuntu pronounced?
[02:28] <Steve|> trappist - ah ok, thanks
[02:29] <gerryxiao> onkarshinde, any others?
[02:29] <lowman62> Steve|: and yes..unlike windows that really will not make any use of the gig of ram you have...ubuntu uses it...my machine flies
[02:29] <gepatino> irvin, where can i read more about it?
[02:29] <gepatino> irvin, maybe i could help somehow
[02:29] <rapha> Hi all!
[02:29] <Steve|> lowman62 - haha, i only have 512mb :|
[02:29] <onkarshinde> gerryxiao: I haven't tried many distros. So can't tell you
[02:29] <irvin> gepatino, go to #ubuntu-motu and try to get in touch with mvo
[02:29] <Whistler> Steve| i pronounce it like [ short u, buntu] 
[02:29] <gepatino> irvin, ok, thanks
[02:29] <gerryxiao> oh,nevermind
[02:29] <Jowi> Steve|: 512 is more than enough. even 256 work ok
[02:29] <irvin> gepatino, or #ubuntu-devel
[02:30] <lowman62> Steve|: believe it or not windows doesn't use all that ram...reports it does but does not in reality...ubuntu will
[02:30] <rapha> How can you configure Apache so that a second VirtualHost directive doesn't overwrite a first VirtualHost directive?
[02:30] <gerryxiao> onkarshinde, i mean in ubuntu
[02:30] <Steve|> haha interesting
[02:30] <gepatino>  \ #ubuntu-devel
[02:30] <gepatino> ups
[02:31] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[02:31] <lowman62> you will like it Steve|
[02:31] <onkarshinde> gerryxiao: that is what. I was a RH/Fedora man before Ubuntu. In my opinion it works mostly out of box. And the package management is really good
[02:31] <Steve|> how do you guys think ubuntu would run on my machine? - amd xp 1700+, 512mb ram
[02:31] <Trackilizer> Need your help, how do i check the exact name of the video card and sound card being used at the moment?
[02:31] <onkarshinde> Steve|: Using same configuration. Runs flawless
[02:31] <gerryxiao> which packgage managment system?
[02:31] <Steve|> nice
[02:31] <Zag0R> does anyone have prism 2 with wlanng driver running ?
[02:32] <lowman62> Same here Steve| ...absolutely flawless
[02:32] <onkarshinde> gerryxiao: I mean debian packaging and apt-get.
[02:32] <Steve|> awesome hehe
[02:32] <vbgunz> is there anyway to apply a pseudo drop shadow to windows... some way to do it without a hungry composite manager?
[02:32] <Jared> can gparted shrink my linux partition
[02:32] <Steve|> ubuntu looks really nice too haha
[02:32] <Whistler> Jared yes it can
[02:32] <Steve|> yeah back when i got my cpu, it was cheap
[02:33] <Whistler> Jared but youll need to boot from live cd if you wanna resize current linux partition
[02:33] <gerryxiao> sure, apt not bad
[02:33] <onkarshinde> Jared: gparted won't touch partitions in use. Instead boot from Live CD and use parted
[02:33] <gerryxiao> why resize partiton?
[02:33] <onkarshinde> gerryxiao: he wan't to make room for XP
[02:34] <lowman62> XP ...blech!
[02:34] <gerryxiao> hmm
[02:35] <app> Jowi, !samba referenced links don't have anything on Kerberos, and searchin Ubuntu wiki for it gives nothing
[02:35] <yancheng> may i noe how to perform multisession burning in gnomebaker?
[02:36] <gerryxiao> onkarshinde, i'm using gentoo now, just curious about ubuntu
[02:37] <Trackilizer> Would anyone happen to know how tocheck the exact name of the video card and sound card being used at the moment?
[02:38] <gerryxiao> Trackilizer, lspci?
[02:38] <onkarshinde> Trackilizer: Go to System->Administration->Device Manager
[02:38] <Trackilizer> Ok, i'll do that, thanks alot guys
[02:38] <AndyL> Hi everyone
[02:39] <AndyL> I wonder if someone has some time to offer a complete newbie to linux and ubuntu some advice
[02:39] <snk00sj> fire away
[02:39] <onkarshinde> AndyL: GO on
[02:39] <AndyL> thanks
[02:40] <gerryxiao> AndyL, google works
[02:40] <AndyL> I have just bought a wireless IP camera which I want to use on an old pc I have. The idea is that this old pc will monitor and record the video from the camera and enable me to view images using my web browser on other PC's in the home.
[02:40] <tom> Jowi: a file system check didn't help
[02:40] <AndyL> the problem is the software that comes with the camera is Windows based
[02:40] <onkarshinde> yancheng: Gnome baker forum http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=cda1fe68d39fc45d7e2f6fc3f6657dee
[02:40] <AndyL> I have just downloaded ubuntu and have no idea whatsoever what to do after I've installed it
[02:41] <Jowi> tom: alright, was worth a try. no errors reported though?
[02:42] <tom> Jowi: i didn't see any errors
[02:42] <onkarshinde> AndyL: Check if this helps http://www.zoneminder.com/
[02:42] <tom> Jowi: it always hangs when it tries to open a new file which isn't cached...
[02:42] <lowman62> AndyL: I plugged my camera in and ubuntu found it without the windows software...did you try that?
[02:42] <tom> Jowi: but i/o bandwidth is okay
[02:43] <AndyL> yes, I did see this but got put off as it seems quite technical to install
[02:43] <Jowi> tom: personally i would re-install and format the disks and re-write the partition table. but i'm drastic.
[02:43] <AndyL> lowman62, no. not yet. I haven't installed ubuntu yet
[02:43] <BirdyKiller> hi.. I'm trying to install 5.10 on an amd64 system with a dell 2005fpw monitor and evga geforce 7800 GT video card.  when I try to login after initial setup a fuzzy window pops up and the system locks... ctrl+alt+backspace won't work, but the mouse still moves
[02:43] <onkarshinde> lowman62: His requirement is specific. He wants to monitor room with that camera
[02:44] <BirdyKiller> I tried booting rescue mode and apt-getting the latest nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings packages but they don't seem to make a difference
[02:44] <BirdyKiller> any help or suggestions would be appreciated :) thanks
[02:44] <Jowi> tom: that is, i would wipe the disk clean. maybe someone else's got a better option for you.
[02:45] <lowman62> AndyL: although there is going to be a learning curve ..definitely, I went through that 8 years ago. Ubuntu as well as most linux distros I have used I have found they are very well documented..unlike Winblows ...oops! :P
[02:45] <mwe> BirdyKiller: read the nvidia wiki if you didn't
[02:45] <BirdyKiller> k, sorry I didn't see that..  I'll check it out
[02:45] <AndyL> thanks. the other issue is that my wireless network card doesn't appear to have any linux drivers. what should i do?
[02:45] <mwe> !tell BirdyKiller about nvidia
[02:46] <mwe> BirdyKiller: see /msg from ubotu
[02:46] <BirdyKiller> thanks :)  I feel like an ass now
[02:46] <lowman62> AndyL: ubuntu found my wireless on my laptop right from the install
[02:46] <onkarshinde> AndyL: there is something called ndiswrapper which uses Windows drivers. Search on Ubuntu wiki
[02:46] <AndyL> ndiswrapper?
[02:46] <mwe> BirdyKiller: don't
[02:46] <onkarshinde> lowman62: you seem to have 'The Perfect Machine'
[02:46] <AndyL> sorry, I'm really new to all this
[02:47] <idefix_> where are all them commands/files in the /dev directory for?
[02:47] <mwe> !ndiswrapper
[02:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:47] <lowman62> onkarshinde: I just truly never had any problems with ubuntu..that is a fact
[02:47] <idefix_> mwe? is that my answer?
[02:47] <AndyL> thanks
[02:48] <mwe> idefix_: that was for AndyL. he asked what ndiswrapper is
[02:48] <lowman62> except it would not install on that crappy profile 2 gateway heap of junk holding my door open now LOL
[02:48] <idefix_> !dev
[02:48] <ubotu> idefix_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:48] <Jowi> tom: how is the diskspace on that drive? any left?
[02:48] <idefix_> right... that is the default answer
[02:49] <lowman62> but i will not hold it against ubuntu for that ...windows didn't even like it :P
[02:49] <gnomefreak> if you stick with stable and you dont use it for anything weird you will have very few issues with it
[02:49] <idefix_> okok, so you can mount stuff in your dev directory, but why are there over a hundred entries in there? how can there be so much mountable?!
[02:50] <C-O-L-T> I need a program which can make for me picture slideshows with music which i can write into dvd and other file formats, avi, mpeg and so on??????????
[02:50] <tom> Jowi: i also tried an older kernel, but it doesn't help
[02:50] <tom> Jowi: 52% used, 5.1 GB available
[02:50] <Jowi> tom: and does /etc/fstab look ok?
[02:50] <C-O-L-T>  I need a program which can make for me picture slideshows with music which i can write into dvd and other file formats, avi, mpeg and so on??????????
[02:50] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, have you tried openoffice impress?
[02:50] <JoeBlow> I had to completely reinstall linux and use the install disks partitioner to actually get this working
[02:51] <tom> Jowi: /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:51] <Jowi> tom: yeah, that's ok
[02:51] <idefix_> !mount
[02:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:51] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: no but it is possible with it????? I don't need a powerpoint like program, I need something easy to use but still professionall. OOO Impress is something like that???
[02:52] <symtab> hello
[02:52] <JoeBlow> hi
[02:52] <Jowi> tom: i'm abit lost. no ideas pop up i'm afraid.
[02:52] <gnomefreak> OOo impress is simialr to power point and to make slide shows i dont know of anything else that can make them other than power point of impress
[02:52] <AndyL> guys, I've just started to install ubuntu now. Is it normal for the screen to be flicking and very 'hashy' during the install?
[02:52] <symtab> i just installed ubuntu (last stable version), and i have some questions...is there i way i can get newer package versions, like mysql-server-5.x...i have mysql-server-4.1 now
[02:53] <symtab> also if you install gst-plugins you need to manually run gst-register
[02:53] <idefix_> hey guys, the URL's the uboto bot comes up with don't really work :-(
[02:53] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: but i can add music to it and can I write into dvd format like a movie, to play in a dvd player with tv??
[02:53] <tom> Jowi: well thank you anyway for your help
[02:53] <blue-frog> symtab, mysql5 u would have to install it yourself, should stick with 4, gst register yes
[02:54] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i dont use it but i would suggest reading up on it first to find out
[02:54] <AndyL> anyone?
[02:54] <GURT> not that i've experienced AndyL
[02:54] <AndyL> oh
[02:54] <gnomefreak> AndyL, what part of install?
[02:54] <AndyL> the very beginning
[02:55] <GURT> define "hashy"
[02:55] <gnomefreak> during base install?
[02:55] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: ok thanks for advices, but if you know somebody in the community who works with graphics, and pictures than say me some names nickes to contact the
[02:55] <C-O-L-T> m
[02:55] <C-O-L-T> probably they know something
[02:55] <AndyL> screen flickering and angled lines over the screen. Hard to describe
[02:55] <lowman62> my laptop flickered a bit during the install...but it stopped once the install go underway
[02:55] <lowman62> *got
[02:56] <AndyL> I'll let u know when and if it stops.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> AndyL, mine did during base system install than failed :(( AndyL let it run it should be fine
[02:56] <AndyL> Zoneminder requires something called mysql. Is that hard to get and install?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> !mysql
[02:56] <ubotu> lamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:57] <symtab> blue-frog, thanks
[02:57] <gnomefreak> looks easy and i use the word easy because i couldnt think of  a better word :(
[02:57] <AndyL> is LAMP the same as mysql?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> thats what the m inlamp stands for
[02:57] <osfameron> the M stands for "MySQL or Postgres"
[02:58] <AndyL> oh, i see. Do I need the apache things as well?
[02:58] <osfameron> just like P stands for "Perl, PHP, Python or Ruby"
[02:58] <gnomefreak> P=php
[02:58] <lowman62> AndyL: LAMP os linux apache myql and php installed in one package...I use lamp for development purposes...but I got mine from www.friendsofapache.org
[02:58] <AndyL> zoneminder help file says 'make sure you have a development installation and not just a runtime'
[02:58] <Polly_Morf> osfameron: precisely!
[02:59] <Jowi> tom: how is the disk speed from a live cd with untouched boot options? (if you mount the disk after live-cd is booted)
[02:59] <osfameron> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2001/01/25/lamp.html
[03:00] <AndyL> lowman62, www.friendsofapache.org doesn't seem to work
[03:00] <fek> afte i upgraded to breezy and start xorg, i only will get a green/blue screen and nothing happens
[03:00] <lowman62> hold on let me see AndyL:
[03:01] <lowman62> AndyL: sorry..here it is http://www.apachefriends.org/en/
[03:01] <AndyL> thanks
[03:02] <osfameron> you don't *need* it to be installed in one package, though that's often convenient
[03:02] <osfameron> with a debuntu box, it's trivial to apt-get the bits you need if you're comfortable doing that
[03:02] <osfameron> I think all the all-in-one packages distribute PHP
[03:02] <AndyL> I think zoneminder is going to be way too complex for me to get up and running
[03:03] <AndyL> just reading through their readme file makes me shudder!
[03:04] <tom> Jowi: huh there was something like "hda: timeout waiting for DMA" when i was rebooting. couldn't write it down because it was rebooting
[03:05] <tom> Jowi: i'll check the logfiles
[03:06] <fek> is that problem critical?
[03:06] <fek> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o":  No symbols found
[03:06] <fek> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o":  No symbols found
[03:06] <fek> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o":  No symbols found
[03:06] <fek> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found
[03:06] <tom> fek: nvidia drivers?
[03:06] <fek> no
[03:06] <fek> i have i i855
[03:07] <tom> no idea then
[03:07] <tom> fek: you probably won't get 3d acceleration
[03:07] <Jowi> tom: got alot of hits on google for that error
[03:08] <fek> my hole kdm won't start :(
[03:08] <fek> that's my problem, tom
[03:09] <tom> fek: are there more error messages? like "no screens found" ? can you post the X server log file somewhere?
[03:09] <AndyL> the install has almost finished and its still flickering. almost like the refrsh rate is wrong or something.
[03:09] <drcode> hi all
[03:09] <symtab> i just have to say ubuntu is great, i'm used to distro's like slackware, lfs...but ubuntu is out-of-the box and it works. so if there are any developers here, thank you
[03:10] <Jowi> tom: found this. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25499
[03:10] <drcode> can I convert firefox bookmark into netscape or mozilla?
[03:10] <JoeBlow> ok, when i go to sudo nano ect/fstab/ it doesnt see any drives
[03:10] <lowman62> AndyL: that could be...you won't know for sure till it is completely installed and boot up
[03:10] <AndyL> ok, it's installing its applications at the moment
[03:11] <aftertaf>  symtab :]  great to hear it..... ;)
[03:11] <tom> Jowi: thanks i'll read it
[03:11] <fek> tom: http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/Xorg.0.log
[03:11] <lowman62> symtab: thats what I am talking about LOL ;)
[03:11] <fek> i got the problem after i dist-upgraded to breezy
[03:12] <JoeBlow> to see my drive info, the command is "sudo nano ect/fstab" right?
[03:13] <lowman62> or sudo gedit /etc/fstab &
[03:13] <osfameron> re LAMP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_%28software_bundle%29 points to German article it was coined in (originally M=MySql, P=PHP) but later popularized by MySQL and O'Reilly (OnLAMP) more flexibly
[03:14] <Jowi> JoeBlow: "sudo fdisk -l" for info on all disks. /etc/fstab contains info for when the disks are mounted at boot.
[03:14] <lleberg> Can i use apt-get instead of synaptic?
[03:14] <Polly_Morf> How do i get wma-support in gstreamer?
[03:14] <lowman62> osfameron: take a look at this http://www.apachefriends.org/en/
[03:14] <lleberg> and install the same packages?
[03:14] <JoeBlow> Jowi: when i do fstab it doesnt show any info
[03:14] <lleberg> Install the following packages with Synaptic (See How do I use Synaptic to install packages?)
[03:14] <lleberg> Libraries (multiverse) > gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[03:14] <blue-frog> lleberg, synaptic is the interface for apt-get
[03:14] <Polly_Morf> that easy... nice
[03:14] <Jowi> JoeBlow: /etc/fstab is a textfile that is read during boot.
[03:14] <lleberg> cna i just sudp apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse instead?
[03:15] <lleberg> typo!
[03:15] <lowman62> JoeBlow: it is the way you typed the path try this "sudo nano /etc/fstab" just like that
[03:15] <JoeBlow> Jowi: but shouldnt it have like ntfs defaults 0 0 , stuff liek that
[03:15] <Jowi> JoeBlow: yes. it should not be empty
[03:15] <osfameron> lowman62: yeah, I've heard on Windows those packages are particularly useful, good project
[03:15] <Jowi> JoeBlow: maybe you misspelled it. "sudo nano /etc/fstab"
[03:15] <lowman62> osfameron: I use it on ubuntu...rocks
[03:16] <lleberg> blue-frog, Is that a yes? :)
[03:16] <JoeBlow> Jowi: thanks, i use umask=0222 so everyone can read right?
[03:16] <AndyL> if the installation works the idea is to remove the hd and put it in another machine, will this work?
[03:16] <tom> fek: i can't see any errors in your logfile...
[03:16] <blue-frog> yes
[03:16] <Zambba> And please note that Linux is mostly a case-sensitive system :)
[03:16] <lleberg> nice
[03:16] <lleberg> thanks
[03:16] <AndyL> I have no choice as the mini pc I want to use has NO FD or CD
[03:16] <app> I am still looking for ANY info of Ubuntu kerberos support, i.e. integrating with (LM/NTLM blocking)  Windows domains....
[03:17] <aleksi_> has anybody here any experience on using sonyericson phones as modems?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> anyone else in here running dapper?
[03:17] <seicherlbob> hi there again! Anybody knows how i can stop my external display from only mirroring (its a thinkpad with an external samsung lcd
[03:17] <blue-frog> app, samba-ldap
[03:17] <Jowi> JoeBlow: i don't use 0222 so i don't know
[03:17] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: good morning!
[03:17] <lowman62> asfameron: that along with my Zend and life is good for this developer ;)
[03:17] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, yes
[03:17] <gnomefreak> gm seicherlbob
[03:17] <fek> tom: the problem seems to be related to xiinerama
[03:18] <BirdyKiller> mwe, I'm not sure the guides address the same problems, but I'll give it a shot in a few :)
[03:18] <AndyL> if it does cause problems is there anything i can do?
[03:19] <JoeBlow> ok, i got /dev/sda3       /media/sda3     ntfs    umask=0222        0       0
[03:19] <JoeBlow>  , but it still wont let me read drive
[03:19] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, what it says?
[03:19] <lowman62> you know for sh!ts and giggles I thought maybe I would try the livecd on that pile rubbish in the corner holding my door open (Gateway Profile 2) ...it puked on the live cd and the install version...hehehe thus why it is a door stop LOL :P
[03:20] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: it says i dont have premission
[03:20] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, use sudo
[03:20] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, did u umount the drive and mount it again after changing fstab?
[03:20] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: yea
[03:20] <joey222> morning guys, my head is up my ass with gentoo so of it comes and on goes ubuntu
[03:20] <lowman62> sudo
[03:21] <fek> how do i downgrade xorg?
[03:21] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: I dunno why, but it took about a minute after re mounting it, and now it works
[03:21] <Jowi> joey222: you use ubuntu as your head?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> joey222, noone told you gentoo was hard before you tried it?
[03:21] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, works or doesn't work, make your mind
[03:21] <fek>  /topic
[03:21] <lowman62> joey222: i thinnk your wrong...i think you plucked your head out of your ass if you are installing ubuntu LOL :P
[03:21] <fek> how do i downgrade xorg?
[03:22] <joey222> nope lol, ave tryed suse and didnt like it, gentoo just brnds my poor stoned head, so ubuntu it is.
[03:22] <seicherlbob> can anybody help me with my second display? It's only mirroring but i'd like to use it as a second screen
[03:22] <lowman62> joey222: good choice ;)
[03:22] <Polly_Morf> Any possible way to make amarok support wma? It already plays wma, but it says its 2h long in 5242880 kb/s...
[03:22] <joey222> thk u lol
[03:22] <gnomefreak> fek,  type in terminal apt-get --help
[03:22] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: works now
[03:22] <lowman62> yw
[03:22] <joey222> just gotta wait unill 5.10 downloads, ave got 5.4 on disk somewer but cant b bothered to look for it
[03:22] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: ty
[03:23] <gnomefreak> joey222, if you installed gentoo congrats i know people that couldnt get past the install
[03:23] <Jowi> joey222: 5.10 is worth the download
[03:23] <lowman62> joey222: you sound like me...you burn'em ...toss'em somewhere ...and rather download it again than get up a look for it under the heap LOL
[03:23] <Steve|> thats so lazy :|
[03:23] <Steve|> i'd do that if i had a faster net connection
[03:24] <Raven^> hello i was trying to instal an ftp server and i had a box that came up with acl installer its giving me a message -  enter the directory containing your AllergroCL copy where is this directory?
[03:24] <Steve|> 512 adsl is too slow though
[03:24] <joey222> so u cant blame me
[03:24] <lowman62> <--I resemble that comment Steve|
[03:24] <fek> gnomefreak: but how do i _downgrade_ only one package?
[03:24] <Steve|> haha
[03:24] <joey222> lol
[03:24] <gnomefreak> fek, it didnt say in the --help?
[03:24] <lowman62> joey222: I would never blame ya...you should see my cd heap as I call it LOL
[03:24] <Jowi> tried so many i lost count. have numerous live-cd's i never used
[03:24] <joey222> i have centOS, suse 9.3 and 10, ubuntu 5.04 and gentoo on disk along with Knoppix
[03:25] <AndyL> sorry to be a pain guys but can someone advise me what I should do if I move the HD with ubuntu on it to another system?
[03:25] <Steve|> is gentoo any good
[03:25] <fek> gnomefreak: where?
[03:25] <Steve|> whats the diff between ubuntu and gentoo
[03:25] <Steve|> AndyL how do you mean
[03:25] <lowman62> Steve| : stick with ubuntu
[03:25] <gnomefreak> im looking fek
[03:25] <joey222> it need complied from stage one, whole lot of work to get it installed, avebeen working on it for over a day now so feck it i said, back to ubuntu
[03:25] <aftertaf> AndyL:  apart from put it on the same ide master/szcondary, nothing...    use the 386 kernel if not same processor achitecture.
[03:25] <Jowi> Steve|: the biggest difference is the installation process
[03:25] <Polly_Morf> Steve|: portage... Gentoo is for control-freaks.
[03:25] <gnomefreak> !apt
[03:25] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[03:25] <joey222> ill be needing some help with Samba and my Windows Network.
[03:26] <Steve|> i see
[03:26] <AndyL> Steve|, I'm installing ubuntu for the 1st time and if its sucessful the hd will need to be moved into another system
[03:26] <Jowi> ubotu, tell joey222 about samba
[03:26] <gnomefreak> fek, try those it should tell you i never downgraded a package before
[03:26] <Steve|> well
[03:26] <joey222> hey ths Jowi
[03:26] <joey222> thks*
[03:27] <jaldhar> does anyone use vmware with kubuntu breezy?  Have you noticed kernel oopses from the bridged networking driver?
[03:27] <fek> Sorry. The page you have requested does not exist. Try one of the following pages with similar names or see the full title index.
[03:27] <aftertaf> AndyL:  in that case, keep it simple, put it as ide1 primary on both machines and install. it'll be fine, normally.
[03:27] <Steve|> i'm not too sure about ubuntu, but unless the other system is the same as the one you have now, won't you have problems?
[03:27] <aftertaf> udev/hotplug auto finds hardware ;)
[03:27] <AndyL> Steve|, the physical HD will be moved to this system and I've been told that this may cause hassles as ubuntu has already recognized the original PC's hardware
[03:28] <app> blue-frog, what is samba-ldap? It is not an Ubuntu package name! And nothing on "apt-cache search ldap | grep samba", besides, using Kerberos to authenticate to smb/cifs servers has no need for the client to know anyhting about LDAP
[03:28] <Steve|> yeah thats what i was thinking
[03:28] <aftertaf> AndyL:  normally not true...... if special hardware in host Pc and not in destination pc, then take it out ;)
[03:28] <AndyL> I don't have any other way of getting an OS on this other system as it has no FD or CD
[03:28] <lowman62> LOL that Profile 2 Gateway door stop has the screensaver stuck on it...won't stop...so it is a psychodelic door stop now LOL :P
[03:28] <Steve|> oh well there you go
[03:28] <Steve|> well
[03:28] <blue-frog> app, samba.org menu by example chapter 5, and idealx.org to install it easily
[03:28] <Steve|> if you're going as far as taking out the hdd
[03:28] <Steve|> why dont you just take out hte cd
[03:28] <Steve|> cd rom
[03:29] <Steve|> and plug it into the othe rsystem
[03:29] <AndyL> Steve|, the other PC is a mini pc (smaller than a shoebox)
[03:29] <lowman62> nah! I like it that way...was a burned cd...keeps it out of the pile
[03:29] <Steve|> oh
[03:29] <Steve|> can't you get adapters for cd roms
[03:29] <AndyL> no
[03:30] <Steve|> oh well
[03:30] <AndyL> it has 2 usb ports but the bios won't allow boot from a memory stick
[03:30] <Steve|> really
[03:30] <Steve|> lame bios
[03:30] <AndyL> which is why I'm doing it this way
[03:30] <AndyL> it's from 1999 !
[03:30] <Steve|> well trust aftertaf then :P
[03:30] <Steve|> haha
[03:31] <zosologist> how do i get that wierd little toolbar at the bottem of desktop with gnome, just the series of icons connected by a small bar in the middle, not very discriptive but whateva
[03:31] <JoeBlow> ok, how do i get all users write premission to a fat32 drive?
[03:31] <zosologist> ill see if i can find a screen shot
[03:31] <Jowi> JoeBlow: umask=0000
[03:31] <Jowi> JoeBlow: umask=000 (three zeroes)
[03:32] <AndyL> it does have a network port but I'm not sure if it can boot from a network and even if it could I don't know what that means!
[03:32] <Steve|> try it anyway :P
[03:32] <aftertaf> AndyL:  try the HD swapping, it *should* work, seriously
[03:32] <Steve|> trial and error is fun
[03:32] <gnomefreak> AndyL, did the install faill?
[03:32] <JoeBlow> Jowi: tried both, lets me read but not write
[03:33] <Steve|> yeah plus there will be no problems to the hdd if it fails anyway i think?
[03:33] <AndyL> it's still installing the applications. Screen is still flickering
[03:34] <Jowi> JoeBlow: mine look something like this: /dev/hda7       /media/data       vfat    defaults,umask=000        0       0
[03:34] <gnomefreak> AndyL, im thinking once it finishes you should beable to configure X if X fails to run
[03:34] <JoeBlow> Jowi: shit, i forgot to unmount and remount, sorry, i got it
[03:34] <gnomefreak> AndyL, i think its the disk that causes that flickering
[03:34] <AndyL> what is X gnomefreak?
[03:34] <lowman62> I think tonight I am gonna take this Profile 2 out into the field...stuff a stick of dynamite in it...and video tape it blowing up into pieces...and send the tape to gateway :P
[03:34] <aftertaf> you could always try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg to reconf X
[03:34] <gnomefreak> atleast for mine it was
[03:34] <gnomefreak> Xorg is graphical
[03:35] <gnomefreak> anything that has to do with graphics runs off of X
[03:35] <AndyL> ah, ok
[03:36] <lowman62> AndyL: X is your friend :P
[03:36] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:36] <gnomefreak> X is starting to change in dapper :(
[03:36] <lowman62> really?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> its starting to look alot like windows
[03:36] <JoeBlow> is their anyway I can just create a shortcut to a folder?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> the notifier now has a graphical pop up and the log-off choices are graphical not
[03:37] <AndyL> does ubuntu have a control panel like windows does for this kind of thing?
[03:37] <ccooke> JoeBlow: yes, several
[03:37] <gnomefreak> now*
[03:37] <lowman62> gnomefreak: that figures...once upon a time windows started looking like some linux desktops...now vise versa...yack
[03:38] <tom> Jowi: lol i got this when trying to hdparm -tT /dev/hda: http://home.eggdrop.ch/dma-errors.jpg
[03:38] <JoeBlow> ccooke: whats the easiest?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> lowman62, dont get me wrong it doesnt really look like windows its just colorful like theirs but its broken anyway :)
[03:38] <ccooke> JoeBlow: if you want a GUI method - right click on the folder, select 'Make link'. That creates a link called 'link to Foo'. Drag and drop that link to anywhere you like
[03:38] <Jowi> tom: wooooow. ehhh..... hmmm.... wipe that sucker clean man
[03:39] <BirdyKiller> lowman62, easier for smart programmers to make it look like a crappier interface they already know than for dumb users to learn something new
[03:39] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I gave up on windows completely when I installed XP and seen all the coloring books and crayon objects...blech! was like some children had a field day on my computer :P
[03:40] <JoeBlow> ccooke: I dont see any make link option
[03:40] <gnomefreak> lowman62, just think vista is gonna be 10 times as colorful and crappy
[03:40] <tom> Jowi: i'm trying e2fsck -c /dev/hda1 now
[03:41] <ccooke> JoeBlow: are you using kde?
[03:41] <ccooke> JoeBlow: or gnome?
[03:41] <lowman62> gnomefreak: shutters...I told my wife ubuntu was the new windows version...she believes me...I did that so I could get rid of all the windows...I mean after all they are only good for opening and closing anyways LOL :P
[03:41] <JoeBlow> ccooke: gnome, thats what comes standard with ubuntu right?
[03:41] <lowman62> JoeBlow: yes
[03:41] <lleberg> lowman62, Nice going!
[03:41] <ccooke> JoeBlow: okay. What are you right-clicking on?
[03:42] <JoeBlow> ccooke: I folder
[03:42] <JoeBlow> ccooke: a folder
[03:42] <lowman62> lleberg: ya she says...hey this is great...I told her bill gates was a genius LOL :P
[03:42] <gnomefreak> lowman62, they say dapper is gonna compare to vista (atleast thatsd waht they said)
[03:42] <ccooke> JoeBlow: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[03:42] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, click on "make link" now
[03:42] <gnomefreak> but either way it will never lose its (linux-look)
[03:42] <aftertaf> gnomefreak:  they meant that it would be up against vista.... iirc
[03:42] <JoeBlow> ccooke: 5.10
[03:43] <ccooke> JoeBlow: right. The option is there - take another look.
[03:43] <gnomefreak> aftertaf, it wont be because vista isnt set to be released till 2007
[03:43] <JoeBlow> ccooke: oh yea its their, but it wont let me click it
[03:43] <aftertaf> hehe set back again????? :P
[03:43] <gnomefreak> yep
[03:43] <JoeBlow> ccooke: its grey instead of black
[03:43] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:43] <aftertaf> lol
[03:43] <lowman62> gnomefreak: well i have not tried dapper am using breezy but if that is the way it goes...I am sure somethingn else will come along that is less eye candy ...I stick with the idea that less is best
[03:44] <gnomefreak> mid 2007 the ms tech told me
[03:44] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, indeed if u don't hve write permission...
[03:44] <aftertaf> i'm on dapper and no eye candy overload here...
[03:44] <gnomefreak> also on dapper
[03:44] <aftertaf> you can always go to E17 instead or gernome
[03:44] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: hmm, how should i get that
[03:44] <ccooke> JoeBlow: hmm. where is the folder?
[03:44] <gnomefreak> but aftertaf did you do yesterdays kernel upgrade?
[03:44] <JoeBlow> blue-frog: in my ntfs partition
[03:44] <JoeBlow> ccooke: in my ntfs partition
[03:45] <aftertaf> gnomefreak:  yep but no reboot yet
[03:45] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, normal u don't...
[03:45] <gnomefreak> lol wait
[03:45] <aftertaf> for a kernel update?????
[03:45] <aftertaf> usplash??
[03:45] <ccooke> JoeBlow: Ah, right. Then you'll need to use the command line.
[03:45] <lowman62> cool! like i said never used dapper...breezy is enough eye candy for me...as an epileptic eyecandy is a little bit intolerable
[03:45] <gnomefreak> aftertaf, the updater shows a graphical popup and same with the log-off
[03:45] <ccooke> JoeBlow: get a terminal, and type:
[03:45] <aftertaf> what updater?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> 2.6.15-11
[03:45] <aftertaf> on gdm?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> update notifier
[03:45] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:45] <blue-frog> JoeBlow, sudo ln -s /path/to/folder /home/user/folder
[03:46] <aftertaf> oh that... i'm a kubuntu user anyway, so i dont have it :)
[03:46] <ccooke> JoeBlow: ln -s /path/to/real/folder ~/Desktop/folder (to put a link on your desktop)
[03:46] <WebLOCH> hello
[03:46] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:46] <ccooke> blue-frog: not sudo.
[03:46] <gnomefreak> kubuntu splash was updated too i remember that much
[03:46] <WebLOCH> Anyone here having trouble with java 1.5 and azureus?
[03:46] <ccooke> blue-frog: you don't need root to make a link to something
[03:46] <aftertaf> and i'm on e17 so even better. eye candy at no resource overhead :)
[03:46] <symtab> nautilus crashed :(
[03:47] <blue-frog> ccooke, yes...
[03:47] <ccooke> aftertaf: don't you find it a bit wearing after a while?
[03:47] <aftertaf> nah i love it :)
[03:47] <ccooke> I find eye-candy heavy systems to get in the way too much
[03:47] <lowman62> WebLOCH: yes I had probs with it...then tossed it...and use the BitTorrent client that comes with ubuntu...works for me
[03:47] <fek> does anybody know, why my kdm won't start? i have an intel 855gm vga... i only get a green screen and nothing happens.
[03:47] <aftertaf> true... but this loks nice without being excessive
[03:47] <aftertaf> (imho)
[03:47] <WebLOCH> lowman62, its nice but ... i like the DHT
[03:47] <fek> without any xinerama stuff in the xorg.conf, i'll get a wrong resoloution with 640x480 on one screen
[03:48] <ccooke> ... then again, I favour a desktop with no panels or bars - just a black screen.
[03:48] <aftertaf> lool
[03:48] <macri> hello everyone... I am new to Ubuntu..  Does any Memory tuning required on Ubuntu; if i follow the default installation
[03:48] <kemik> macri:  not afaik
[03:49] <fek> hello?!
[03:49] <lowman62> WebLOCH: I know what you mean...but it was so mem intensive and never really closed properly...was poorly programmed javajunk as I call it
[03:49] <macri> kermik:  I am using ubuntu with 1GB ram; but i find still my pc using lots of swap memory
[03:49] <WebLOCH> lowman62, its a mixture of azureus bugs and java bugs
[03:49] <kemik> macri:  that's weird.. shouldnt need any swap :/
[03:50] <blue-frog> macri, you have a problem then...
[03:50] <seicherlbob> My updatemanager had problems updating some packages. how can i manually reinstall them?
[03:50] <lowman62> WebLOCH: as a programmer I know bugs are inevitable but I rather wait on some apps to mature more before using them
[03:50] <aftertaf> seicherlbob:  sudo apt-get -f install   : or sudo dpkg -i /path/to/downloaded/debsfiles
[03:51] <WebLOCH> lowman62, agreed, thats how i feel about firefox haha
[03:51] <WebLOCH> lowman62, how long does the client normally take to kick  in on a download?
[03:51] <macri> Kermik: When i using normal application everything seems to be fine and max memory in use is only 130Mb; but when i start using VMWare and i see swap mem usage start increasing..
[03:51] <gnomefreak> how do i find the broken package?
[03:51] <seicherlbob> aftertaf: ok, i'll check. thxs
[03:51] <gnomefreak> synaptic tells me there is one but doesnt find it
[03:51] <WebLOCH> lowman62, think i have my answer, tracker timeout
[03:52] <aftertaf> gnomefreak:  try sudo apt-get -f install   too
[03:52] <lowman62> WebLOCH: azureus or the BitTorrent client for ubuntu?
[03:52] <lowman62> WebLOCH: ya that will do it too LOL :P
[03:52] <WebLOCH> lowman62, i was using gnomebtdownload just now
[03:52] <seicherlbob> aftertaf: Great! Thanks!
[03:52] <aftertaf> :)
[03:52] <macri> blue-frog: any advise on memory fine tuning
[03:52] <WebLOCH> lowman62, but after 60seconds it informed me the tracker is down
[03:52] <blue-frog> macri vmware...
[03:53] <gnomefreak> nope still locale is failing and ther eis inconsistancy in my system so the lang. selecter crashes :((
[03:53] <seicherlbob> now all i need for now is the second display. how can i stop it from mirroring?
[03:53] <tom> Jowi: hm. it seems to work now after the e2fsck -c...
[03:53] <AndyL> ubunti is installed and all appears okay. The only problem now is that my wireless network card does not appear to be working. There are no lights on it either. Does ubuntu have a add hardware wizard?
[03:53] <Jowi> tom: great news!
[03:54] <lowman62> WebLOCH: I know it is rather lacking in functionality from my point of view but...it still works and you can set it to time out sooner if you like...that is what i did...am impatient LOL :P
[03:54] <macri> blue-frog: in vmware i set to use a max of 128 mem only - so in theory if i start using two mahine.. it should use a max of 500Mb only (just a approx cal)
[03:54] <penkoad> hi
[03:54] <gnomefreak> ill bbl i have a few ideas :))
[03:54] <AndyL> anyone?
[03:54] <WebLOCH> lowman62, this is obscene, azureus was running fine under 1.5
[03:54] <WebLOCH> 1.4 *
[03:54] <trappist> AndyL: what card?
[03:54] <macri> blue-frog:  also one thing suprises me "free -m" output and gnome system monitor result is not matching
[03:54] <AndyL> it's a microsoft mn-720 wireless NIC
[03:54] <blue-frog> macri +vmware in itself
[03:55] <blue-frog> macri +xorg
[03:55] <lowman62> obouy
[03:55] <Mabus06> WebLOCH, azureus isn't working for me anymore too
[03:55] <AndyL> i've tried removing then inserting the card but to no avail
[03:55] <AndyL> no lights
[03:56] <g0ju> does anyone know a howtow about how to install mouse themes on x11?
[03:56] <Kibou> azureus works fine here
[03:56] <WebLOCH> Mabus06, was it working till recently ?
[03:56] <Mabus06> do you have a driver cd, andyl
[03:56] <AndyL> not for linux, no.
[03:56] <Mabus06> WebLOCH, yes... till like yesterday or something
[03:56] <Mabus06> For windows, AndyL ?
[03:56] <AndyL> yes
[03:56] <lowman62> WebLOCH: to me although java has come a long way...I do believe it is still in its infancy stage as of yet...although I do get amused by their versioning numbers...have you figured that one out yet? LOL :P
[03:56] <Mabus06> Use ndiswrapper.
[03:56] <WebLOCH> Mabus06, did you make any changes to java at all?
[03:56] <Mabus06> WebLOCH, nope
[03:56] <WebLOCH> lowman62, yeah its plain awful
[03:56] <AndyL> ndiswrapper?
[03:57] <lowman62> AndyL: ya you need ndiswrapper to install windows drivers in linux
[03:57] <AndyL> where do i get that from?
[03:57] <app> blue-frog, that reference you gave tells about having a Linux computer account in your Windows domain. But I would be happy to just use "kinit" manually to autheticate my existing user account ("anssi"). I can now actually do that and I get a krb ticket. But when trying to use "mount -t smbfs" it complains and fails in a miserable way.
[03:57] <Mabus06> Hmmm... it's not ndiswrapper, what is it?
[03:58] <seicherlbob> my wlan always sets disabled after a second. got a clue why?
[03:58] <bretzel> 632 people here! ...I feel not alone anymore :-)
[03:58] <Determinist> anyone wanna see a nice "start" menu icon i've made? :)
[03:58] <Mabus06> The utility for using windows drivers for wifi cards...
[03:58] <WebLOCH> Mabus06, the only thing with that is that Javas only real competition is C# :P
[03:58] <dura> ndiswrapper
[03:58] <AndyL> where do i get it from?
[03:58] <lowman62> AndyL: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[03:58] <Mabus06> it should be on ubuntu by default, but I don't find ndiswrapper...
[03:58] <AndyL> eh?
[03:58] <lowman62> AndyL: are you canadian ?
[03:58] <AndyL> lowman62
[03:59] <AndyL> no
[03:59] <AndyL> english
[03:59] <AndyL> was that a command string?
[03:59] <Mabus06> lowman62, I remember it being installed on ubuntu by default
[03:59] <lowman62> AndyL: I guess you say eh like us canadians then :P:
[03:59] <seicherlbob> AndyL:  yes
[03:59] <AndyL> where do i type it?
[03:59] <Mabus06> And ndiswrapper on a terminal says command not found... what was it called, if not ndiswrapper?
[03:59] <igaaa> hi
[03:59] <dura> Take off eh you hosers
[04:00] <aftertaf> AndyL:  open a terminal window
[04:00] <AndyL> how?
[04:00] <g0ju> :D
[04:00] <lowman62> Mabus06: it install ndiswrapper by default on my laptop but am not sure 100% anyone else know more about ndiswrapper that could help AndyL out here?
[04:00] <igaaa> does everyone use an optical audio output with breezy ?
[04:00] <WebLOCH> what a farce.
[04:00] <Mabus06> applications > accessories > terminal
[04:00] <seicherlbob> AndyL:  are u using gnome or kubuntu?
[04:00] <dura> After the nuclear holocaust, we spend our time searching for beer.
[04:00] <AndyL> ubuntu
[04:00] <Madeye> how to search for package from command line >?
[04:00] <seicherlbob> is there a K in the lower left corner?
[04:01] <g0ju> apt-cache search
[04:01] <Ng> Madeye: apt-cache search foo
[04:01] <aftertaf> apt-cache search ndiswrapper
[04:01] <aftertaf> there are 3 that look interesting....
[04:01] <lowman62> AndyL: click Applications>Accessories select Terminal
[04:01] <aftertaf> !ndiswrapper
[04:01] <ubotu> [ndiswrapper]  a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:01] <AndyL> tried that, also said not found
[04:01] <lowman62> obouy!
[04:01] <WebLOCH> what do you guys use for dvd re-authoring and transcoding ?
[04:02] <JoeBlow> whats the best free program for emulating windows games?
[04:02] <Mabus06> JoeBlow, I use wine
[04:02] <GenghisKhan> JoeBlow: cedega
[04:02] <Mabus06> But 'best' is a funny word.
[04:02] <seicherlbob> AndyL: try the "K Menu" -> Utilities -> Terminal
[04:02] <g0ju> cedega
[04:02] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I use wine
[04:03] <Madeye> Ng, this will search the cache or online repos ?
[04:03] <Ng> Madeye: it will search the cache
[04:03] <JoeBlow> where do i get the free version of cedega?
[04:03] <igaaa> Try wine
[04:03] <lowman62> AndyL: did you install Kubuntu?
[04:03] <igaaa> It will search online repos
[04:04] <seicherlbob> AndyL: the K is important and no typing mistake
[04:04] <lowman62> JoeBlow: try wine and see if that works first
[04:04] <knubbe> AndyL: in case you installed kubuntu: k menu -> system -> "teminal program (konsole)"
[04:04] <g0ju> wine is old.
[04:04] <JoeBlow> do i need to install the program through wine, or just try and run it from the windows folder?
[04:04] <seicherlbob> knubbe: or Utilities -> Terminal ;)
[04:04] <lowman62> g0ju: yes but that is what makes a fine wine ;)
[04:04] <trappist> JoeBlow: usually you'd install with wine, but some games work either way
[04:05] <trappist> lowman62: oh that was bad.
[04:05] <igaaa> does anyone use an optical audio output ?
[04:05] <knubbe> seicherlbob: thats not installed by default.
[04:05] <lowman62> trappist: your right was really bad..can hear the booing from here LOL :P
[04:05] <g0ju> lowman62, i dont think he wants to emulate solitaire or something. :)
[04:05] <seicherlbob> knubbe: oh... well. then my system is freaky enough to have both of them
[04:05] <knubbe> seicherlbob: or.. at least it wasnt installed by default here. it came in when i installed the ubuntu-desktop
[04:05] <jouni_> andyL are you using breezy hoary or warty
[04:06] <lowman62> g0ju: I am not a gamer..so I will take your word for it
[04:06] <g0ju> (:
[04:06] <lowman62> <--programmer
[04:06] <Mabus06> funny, I remember ndiswrapper being installed by default
[04:06] <JoeBlow> I always have problems getting into my partitions through wine
[04:06] <Chronoz> when i was installing ubuntu, i forgot to configure the network ... how can i do this now? what program is used?
[04:06] <trappist> JoeBlow: you just have to set them up as drives in your wine config
[04:07] <JoeBlow> trappist: how do i find out how to do that?
[04:07] <igaaa> Chronoz, System -> Administration -> Network
[04:07] <trappist> JoeBlow: what flavor of wine are you using?
[04:07] <AndyL> it seems that ubuntu hasn't detected any pcmcia ports
[04:07] <JoeBlow> trappist: imnot sure, i just downloaded the normal wine off winehq
[04:08] <JoeBlow> trappist:wine 0.9.5
[04:08] <Chronoz> igaaa: isnt there a command line tool?
[04:08] <AndyL> is there anything else i should try
[04:08] <lowman62> update on the Profile 2..one hour to boot up on live cd and 1 hour to shut down on livecd and no can move when boot up...nice work gateway...now I know why the box it came in looked like a cow *chunks Profile 2 out the window with the cows* :P
[04:09] <igaaa> chronoz: sudo network-admin
[04:09] <Mabus06> ndiswrapper usually works, and easily, but for some reason I can't do it... :/ sorry
[04:09] <Determinist> so, no one wants my pretty "start menu" icon? :D
[04:09] <app> blue-frog, that reference to "Samba by example" you gave tells about having a Linux computer account in your Windows domain. But I would be happy to just use "kinit" manually to autheticate my existing user account ("anssi"). I can now actually do that and I get a krb ticket. But when trying to use "mount -t smbfs" it complains and fails in a miserable way.
[04:09] <Peterken> Hello all, is there a program in the apt list so i can watch divx movie's? i'm working with breezy at the moment.
[04:09] <Chronoz> igaaa: tnx
[04:09] <aftertaf> AndyL:  type this : dpkg -l |?grep pcmcia
[04:09] <trappist> JoeBlow: then it should be in your .wine/config
[04:09] <JoeBlow> ok i loaded my drives in wine, do i just select the setup ,exe
[04:09] <Mabus06> ubotu, tell peterken about restrictedformats
[04:10] <Peterken> tnx Mabus06
[04:10] <Mabus06> np
[04:10] <foxsoul> q xopa
[04:10] <aftertaf> AndyL:  you should have pcmcia-cs and pcmciautils
[04:10] <JoeBlow> ok i loaded my drives in wine, do i just select the setup ,exe
[04:10] <AndyL> where aftertaf?
[04:10] <aftertaf> if not "sudo apt-get install" both of them
[04:11] <foxsoul> alguien de panama
[04:11] <aftertaf> in console AndyL  ;)
[04:11] <AndyL> k
[04:11] <aftertaf> "sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs pcmciautils" if they arent shown by the dpkg -l command (L, not one)
[04:12] <AndyL> is that one command string or two aftertaf?
[04:13] <aftertaf> AndyL:  type the dpkg -l line, and if you dont see the pcmcia packages, then type the sudo apt-get line
[04:13] <lowman62> i just checked my mail..shipit sent me another set of 5 cds...hmmm! *chunks in the pile he already has*
[04:13] <aftertaf> i'm outta here all.... cu tomorrow :)
[04:13] <lowman62> laterz aftertaf
[04:14] <aftertaf> ;) lowman62
[04:14] <AndyL> i typed the line b4 reading your last comment. it seems that pcmcia-cs is installed and it couldnt find pcmciautils
[04:14] <AndyL> if pcmcia-cs is installed what should i do?
[04:15] <ale3hs> I got about 94% signal strength in my wireless, but it is keeping go no signal for a sec, everytime, and I got d/c.. anybody knows why happens that??
[04:15] <lowman62> AndyL: that is not a gateway computer you are using is it?
[04:16] <AndyL> no
[04:16] <AndyL> at the moment its an ibm thinkpad
[04:16] <lowman62> AndyL: just checkin...I have gateway issues LOL :P
[04:16] <AndyL> this is before i transfer the hd to my mini pc
[04:16] <AndyL> all was working b4 ubntu
[04:16] <lili> je ne cmoprends pas l'anglais
[04:17] <pansonic> i need asf codecs for totem... anybody help?
[04:17] <ale3hs> pansonic, wincodecs32 dont work?
[04:18] <lowman62> pansonic: try w32codecs
[04:18] <pansonic> no it seems all except asf works
[04:18] <lili> i don't understand English .
[04:18] <mwe> !fr
[04:18] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:18] <pansonic> i have these codecs but asf is not working
[04:18] <Jowi> lili: #ubuntu-fr
[04:18] <ale3hs> pansonic, basicaly I had same problem, but asf plays in gxine I use
[04:18] <ubuntu_> ala brale di san
[04:19] <lili> nn
[04:19] <pansonic> so i should install another player
[04:19] <ale3hs> i unistall totaly totem
[04:19] <ubuntu_> bla bla
[04:19] <lowman62> pansonic I use mplayer as well as xine they work for me with the w32codecs
[04:19] <pansonic> so really which is the best player for ubuntu
[04:19] <lili> i don't understand English
[04:19] <ale3hs> pansonic, mplayer
[04:20] <ale3hs> or gxine for me ..even if it needns a lot of resources
[04:20] <pansonic> i have problems with mplayer as it doesn't work ell in mozilla
[04:20] <fyrzen> it is? It's kinda slow, what about VLC?
[04:20] <pansonic> i love vlac
[04:20] <mwe> pansonic: you need the mplayer-plugin
[04:20] <lili> bye
[04:20] <pansonic> i had vlc when i had xp on my puter
[04:21] <ale3hs> pansonic, try gxine
[04:21] <AndyL> what does pcmcia-cs do?
[04:21] <pansonic> yeah i will .... i love linux
[04:21] <mwe> AndyL: manage you pcmcia devices
[04:21] <AndyL> but its not working!
[04:21] <AndyL> is it an application?
[04:22] <pansonic> cedega real for cross gaming?
[04:22] <AndyL> and what about pcmciautils?
[04:22] <fyrzen> i use regular xine-ui, gxine doesn't show you the keyboard hotkeys in menus and xine-ui has a lot more features in the prefrerences, 'sides the gtk engine is faster, despite beeing older and uglier
[04:22] <mwe> AndyL: it's a set of utilities
[04:22] <AndyL> where mve
[04:23] <tomveens> go to http://www.v9t5.nl and help us
[04:23] <jenda> What's the publuc opinion on prelink?
[04:23] <AndyL> where are these pcmcia utils?
[04:24] <mwe> AndyL: what's pcmciautils? I don't have any package by that name
[04:24] <AndyL> pcmciautils. it is in my list
[04:24] <AndyL> so is pcmcia-cs
[04:24] <mwe> AndyL: on breezy?
[04:24] <AndyL> i have no idea what breezy is
[04:25] <mwe> AndyL: it's the latest stable ubuntu release
[04:25] <jenda> AndyL: the current version of Ubuntu
[04:25] <AndyL> then yes
[04:25] <Jowi> AndyL: breezy is ubuntu 5.10
[04:25] <AndyL> latest version
[04:25] <lowman62> AndyL: I never had to use them personally..so lack of the experience is why I am not answering you on that...breezy is the ubuntu version you just installled 5.10
[04:25] <mwe> AndyL: the stable one? there is no package pcmciautils here
[04:25] <AndyL> i can't get my pcmcia wireless nic working
[04:25] <mwe> !info pcmciautils
[04:25] <Stork> hey, why can't rythmbox play my .m3u files?
[04:26] <Jowi> Stork: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:26] <mwe> 16:25 [ubotu(n=blootbot@ubuntu.cc.com.au)]  Package 'pcmciautils' does not exist.
[04:26] <Stork> O RLY?
[04:26] <mwe> AndyL: what are those pcmciautils you're taling about?
[04:26] <Maxhb> does anyone know how to configure alsa to make optical output work ?
[04:27] <Stork> Jowi, not found on apt-get
[04:27] <jenda> Howhedooba - what do you people think about PRELINK?
[04:27] <ale3hs> Stork, u listen to radio with rythmbox?
[04:27] <ale3hs> Stork,  mms streaming I mean
[04:27] <Stork> i'm trying to listen to much from my gnump3d server
[04:27] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:27] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[04:27] <Stork> music* even
[04:27] <lowman62> jenda: if I knew what prelink was I could give you an opinion :P
[04:28] <Jowi> universe Stork, you need to add it to your repositories
[04:28] <Jowi> !repos
[04:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[04:28] <Stork> oh, right
[04:28] <Onelone> hi
[04:28] <Stork> just out of interest, why don't they include the repos at install?
[04:28] <mwe> Stork: policy reasons
[04:28] <Stork> o, rly?
[04:28] <Jowi> Stork: because in some countries, some of the software is in a legal gray zone
[04:29] <Stork> oh
[04:29] <mwe> Stork: they only include free software by default
[04:29] <Stork> can't we just bomb those countries?
[04:29] <Jowi> Stork: the whole US?
[04:29] <lowman62> Stork such as the w32codecs
[04:29] <Jowi> lol
[04:29] <jenda> !prelink
[04:29] <JoeBlow> how do u run a program through wine, I was typing "wine e:\\quake2\\setup.exe
[04:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, prelink is a way to load apps faster. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25274&highlight=Prelink and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45810&highlight=Prelink
[04:29] <mwe> it's not free either
[04:29] <Stork> Jowi, good point, the US has given such incredible cultural contributions to the world.. Like rap, obesity, and microsoft.
[04:30] <psusi> lol
[04:30] <JoeBlow> Stork: i thought both the internet and linux where invented in california
[04:30] <Stork> wouldn't want to bomb that now would we
[04:30] <avalost> !p2p
[04:30] <ubotu> methinks p2p is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PHowTo
[04:30] <Stork> JoeBlow, the internet was developed by CERN, afaik
[04:30] <Onelone> linux is inventyed in lapland
[04:30] <lowman62> jenda: now that i know what prelink is...thanks to the bot...umm faster starting apps would rock in my opinion :P
[04:30] <Stork> owned.
[04:30] <mwe> jenda: doesn't prelinking make your binaries really large?
[04:30] <psusi> Stork: you mean DARPA
[04:31] <mjr> mwe, it's not the same as static linking :)
[04:31] <JoeBlow> Stork: are u sure it wasnt at the University of california in conglomeration with berkley?
[04:31] <Jowi> Stork: actually, when rap first started to appear in europe, it caused a huge sub-cultural phenomena :)
[04:31] <zosologist> what do i need to add mp3 support to amaroK
[04:31] <JoeBlow> dude music in europe sucks, ive been living here a year, and its all pop
[04:31] <JoeBlow> maybe its just germany
[04:31] <JoeBlow> but the radio is terrible
[04:31] <psusi> mwe: no, prelinking just adds a few bytes to the binaries that they normally compute when loaded... so it doesn't have to spend time computing them when you run them
[04:31] <jenda> mwe: dunno - haven't noticed. But it's annoying that it runs for a long time whenever I apt get
[04:32] <jenda> JoeBlow: Agreed. I listen to import :)
[04:32] <Jowi> Stork: sorry, getting off topic in here. someone slap me
[04:32] <JoeBlow> jenda: lol
[04:32] <mwe> psusi: well it sounds like a good idea then
[04:32] <JoeBlow> jenda: in europe it seems to be that they just flood the market with new artists to test of their good or not, and it gets old
[04:33] <psusi> mwe: I don't think it speeds things up enough that you can actually see it... might shave like 5 ms off the load time... woohoo ;)
[04:33] <[A] ndy80> hi, one simple question: I'd like to buy a bluetooth headset to use with Linux. I already have an usb-bluetooth adapter and it works fine with Linux. does it mean that any headset will work on my ubuntu or it depends from headset?
[04:33] <JoeBlow> anyway, if anyone has a few minutes of time, can someone help me with wine
[04:33] <styx2006> where can i get a deb package including mysql headers?
[04:33] <jenda> JoeBlow: sure, open bottle with corkscrew, and chug.
[04:33] <paulproteus|lapt> styx2006: libmysqlclient14-dev or somesuch
[04:33] <mwe> psusi: oh yeah!
[04:33] <JoeBlow> jenda: lol
[04:33] <Stork> jenda, we'll never get tired of that one :p
[04:34] <eZtaR> Is there a way to error-check and maybe repair corrupt files on a fat32 partition with linux?
[04:34] <JoeBlow> but seriously, i cant get anything to load in wne, and i think i followed winehq's directions properly
[04:34] <lowman62> jenda: that is a capitol idear...*grabs wine from fridge and shares it with his dog* burp!
[04:34] <jenda> JoeBlow: and the problem is where?
[04:34] <JoeBlow> jenda: I think its on the user level, i dont think im properly loading stuff
[04:35] <mwe> JoeBlow: can't you even get notepad to run?
[04:35] <ale3hs> gtk_gnutella uses the mldonkey_server ..?? no huh..?? Coz I want to delete it
[04:35] <JoeBlow> jenda: in terminal i do, e:\\quake2\\setup.exe
[04:35] <lowman62> JoeBlow: mine just worked from the install...I click the setup.exe and wine starts and so does the install
[04:35] <JoeBlow> lowman62: so u go to winecfg, and load ther app, then what?
[04:36] <jenda> JoeBlow: you have to do "wine /name/of/exe" AFAIK, but don't listen to me..
[04:36] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I open nautilus...select the setup.exe ...give it a click and voila wine starts and so does the install
[04:36] <mwe> jenda: that's right
[04:37] <mwe> JoeBlow: you're doing wrong
[04:37] <mwe> JoeBlow: also there's a q2 linux installer
[04:37] <mwe> JoeBlow: dont wine the windows one
[04:37] <JoeBlow> mwe: quake2 was just my test program
[04:38] <mwe> JoeBlow: you're not supposed to type a smb style url to run a windows exe
[04:38] <frogzoo> k, I'm back - still no luck - my lappie doesn't even make mounting / rw when booting - pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6647
[04:38] <JoeBlow> mwe: then how do i do it?
[04:38] <mwe> JoeBlow: and only very few windows application actually work. try something simple first, like notepad.exe
[04:38] <eZtaR> Is there a way to error-check and maybe repair corrupt files on a fat32 partition with linux?
[04:38] <lowman62> JoeBlow: cd to folder or wherever your setup.exe is and run it...wine will start so will your install
[04:39] <mwe> JoeBlow: wine /path/to/notepad.exe
[04:39] <mwe> JoeBlow: I doubt the windows installer for q2 will even run in wine
[04:40] <JoeBlow> mwe: ok I ran notepad, theirs a start
[04:40] <Krystof> is there a ubuntu-blessed way of installing manufacturers' ppd files such that they will be picked up by the system and not clobbered on upgrades?
[04:40] <frogzoo> eZtaR: you might try fsck.vfat
[04:40] <Davey> Is there any offline website browsers for CLI in linux? That support JS?
[04:40] <mwe> JoeBlow: good. then it works
[04:40] <akonkwa> Can anyone here help me with a router problem?
[04:40] <mwe> JoeBlow: you can only run a tiny fraction of windows apps in wine
[04:40] <Jowi> akonkwa: what is the prob?
[04:40] <darren_> I dont know if it support Js, but lynx?
[04:40] <Stork> akonkwa, never
[04:40] <eZtaR> Thanks frogzoo :d
[04:41] <jenda> JoeBlow: Umm... WHY the HELL did you run notepad?
[04:41] <Stork> JoeBlow, you're trying to install quake 2?
[04:41] <paulproteus|lapt> JoeBlow: Notepad is a start.
[04:41] <Davey> darren_, I don't think that has spidering rupposrt does it?
[04:41] <lowman62> jenda: to test if wine was working properly
[04:41] <darren_> ah
[04:41] <mwe> jenda: for testing he ran notepad
[04:41] <JoeBlow> I ran notepad just to make sure my syntax was correct
[04:41] <Jowi> akonkwa_: what is the prob?
[04:41] <darren_> hmm, wget, and lynx?
[04:41] <mwe> jenda: seems like a sane idea
[04:42] <Stork> JoeBlow, i feel for you.
[04:42] <darren_> if it has directory listings
[04:42] <jenda> riiight... I'd say: no it does not run properly, because it ran notepad :)
[04:42] <seishi> * can i play an .avi file, with subtitle .str, using mplayer or other player?  *
[04:42] <JoeBlow> Stork: come on, im like 10 hours into linux
[04:43] <frogzoo> really could use some hints to fix a non bootable machine - definately don't relish the idea of reinstalling
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: wine generally don't work with the apps I need it to run
[04:43] <lowman62> seishi: I use mplayer with the w32codecs installed...works for me
[04:43] <luk3> hey where can i find the whole documentation about ubuntu to download to my computer???
[04:43] <Davey> nope, lynx doesn'
[04:43] <Davey> t support JS :/
[04:43] <Stork> JoeBlow, i had HELL trying to install quake 4 natively. good luck.
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: the have a compatiblity list
[04:43] <seishi> ops srt
[04:43] <lucasvo> anyone know how I can install the VT1612A sound driver? http://epialinux.org/files/epia_howto/ar01s05.html < is some page, but only for redhat 2.4
[04:43] <seicherlbob> where can i find the x-server config file?
[04:43] <akonkwa_> Jovi: I am connected to my router (via wireless) but I can't surf the web... :s
[04:43] <jenda> frogzoo: the live CD is most definitely part of you rsolution.
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: it's like way less than one percent of all windows apps
[04:43] <frogzoo> seicherlbob: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:43] <frogzoo> jenda: I'm on the live CD atm
[04:44] <jenda> frogzoo: Right :) So what seems to be the prob?
[04:44] <Jowi> akonkwa_: i've got no linux + wireless experience i'm afraid. can you ping the router and do you get an ip from it?
[04:44] <frogzoo> jenda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6647
[04:44] <akonkwa_> yes I can
[04:44] <lowman62> JoeBlow: like i said earlier I only use it for a few windows apps i have to use...if I could avoid wine altogether...you betcha i would ;)
[04:44] <mwe> JoeBlow: I still keep windows around so I can play my favorite games
[04:44] <akonkwa_> Jovi (This is for a pc running windows xp)
[04:45] <Jowi> akonkwa_: does ifconfig only have one active interface?
[04:45] <trincamckee> good evening
[04:45] <Jowi> akonkwa_: can you ping 216.239.59.99
[04:45] <Krystof> http://www-jcsu.jesus.cam.ac.uk/~csr21/bad-dialog-of-the-week.png
[04:45] <jenda> frogzoo: could you paste your fstab?
[04:45] <JoeBlow> mwe: I am locked out of windows right now lol, because 64 bit version requires activation, and i dont have a 32 bit disk laying around
[04:46] <hou5ton> hey ... is there a way to open Synaptic by simply pressing the "Windows" key on the keyboard?
[04:46] <hou5ton> I didn't see a way to do it in shortcuts
[04:46] <akonkwa_> Jovi : I'm not sure I understand what  you mean
[04:46] <mwe> JoeBlow: I see. also I wouldn't recommend the 64 bit unubuntu version at this point
[04:46] <Jowi> akonkwa_: in a terminal "ping -c 5 216.239.59.99"
[04:46] <JoeBlow> ok, i ran notepad, worked great, did the same thing for quake 2, but it tells me in terminal wine: cannot find 'quake2.exe'
[04:46] <mwe> JoeBlow: there are simply too much stuff that don't work or work bad
[04:46] <seicherlbob> frogzoo: thx. I alsways forget the capital X
[04:47] <frogzoo> jenda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6648
[04:47] <JoeBlow> mwe: is their something free thats better then wine?
[04:47] <mwe> JoeBlow: no
[04:47] <jenda> JoeBlow: no, def'tly not
[04:47] <JoeBlow> mwe: or is gaming on linux rightnow just really not happening?
[04:47] <frogzoo> JoeBlow: qemu is a gpl version of vmware
[04:47] <mwe> JoeBlow: you simply cannot run most windows apps in linux
[04:47] <jenda> JoeBlow: www.liflg.org
[04:48] <frogzoo> JoeBlow: if wine won't do it - consider qemu, it's nice
[04:48] <monyetz> i!router
[04:48] <monyetz> !router
[04:48] <ubotu> router is, like, totally, a device used to connect multiple computers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[04:48] <monyetz> can someone help me with router /
[04:48] <monyetz> i have wireless AP from msi
[04:48] <trincamckee> i just installed ubuntu from scratch, the thing that is bodering me is that my 2 w$ partitions are automatic mounted, but i cant write on them(fat), how or where can i delete the entries that mount this partitions on startup?
[04:48] <mwe> JoeBlow: if you don't mind only playing those few games that work in linux you'll be ok. but like 99.99 of all games don't run in linux even with stuff like cedega
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> trincamckee,  in the /etc/fstab file
[04:49] <monyetz> i want to use VLC with sap
[04:49] <trincamckee> tank u Dr_Willis
[04:49] <mwe> JoeBlow: you can play most id games like q4. half-life 2 works too
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> trincamckee,  comment them out with a # at the front.
[04:49] <JoeBlow> mwe: all i play is quake 2, and hl2
[04:49] <ccooke> mwe: er... it's a lot better than 99.99%, you know. Have you actually tried it?
[04:49] <monyetz> but i don't know how should i set my router so that i can received sap file list
[04:49] <mwe> JoeBlow: good then
[04:49] <ccooke> I play games in linux quite a bit
[04:49] <mwe> JoeBlow: but I doubt youll get it to work in 64bit ubuntu
[04:49] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, is there anything I can use to do a low-level format of a usb/mp3 player?
[04:49] <JoeBlow> mwe: I just gotta find a way to get quake 2 working
[04:49] <mwe> JoeBlow: use the 32bit version instead
[04:50] <jenda> frogzoo: hmm... and an fdisk partition table?
[04:50] <JoeBlow> mwe: Im on 32 bit
[04:50] <mwe> JoeBlow: good
[04:50] <ccooke> WebLOCH: generally speaking, you should never, ever do that.
[04:50] <WebLOCH> JoeBlow, try Jake2
[04:50] <mwe> JoeBlow: just google icculus
[04:50] <WebLOCH> ccooke, i know, but its set to 1gb when its only 512mb, and its annoying the hell out of me
[04:50] <mwe> JoeBlow: he did the quake2 for linux and there's a good guide as well
[04:50] <ccooke> WebLOCH: ... return it?
[04:50] <trincamckee> Dr_Willis, seems that i dont have that dir
[04:50] <trincamckee> the fstab one
[04:51] <WebLOCH> ccooke, its from hong kong, i got half my money refunded, shipping is too much  hassle
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> trincamckee,  its a file :P
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> trincamckee,  ls -l /etc/fstab
[04:51] <trincamckee> ahhh lol
[04:51] <trincamckee> sorry
[04:51] <trincamckee> =)
[04:51] <JoeBlow> WebLOCH: whats jake 2
[04:51] <JoeBlow> mwe: ill check it out, thnx
[04:51] <Stork> why can't my rythmbox play .m3u files?
[04:51] <WebLOCH> JoeBlow, its the quake2 engine rewritten in java, and it runs like a bullet on my systenm
[04:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: beware that getting steam to run in linux takes some dedication though
[04:52] <fyrzen> it takes dedication to get it to run in windows
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Quake2 in Java. :P
[04:52] <fyrzen> let alone linux
[04:52] <WebLOCH> Dr_Willis, its surprisingly good
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Yep. I dont even play HL2 under windows any more
[04:52] <tonberry1> hey, should ubuntu include "make" program by default (if so, how do i access it? writing make into the terminal results to "command not found")
[04:53] <frogzoo> jenda: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6649 - nothing obvious here either - this all worked prior to installing a few pkgs - snort, nessusd & honeyd - even rebooted cleanly once too, wierd
[04:53] <trincamckee> williams do u have a nice framerate?
[04:53] <JoeBlow> WebLOCH: can I use mods, and multiplayer?
[04:53] <WebLOCH> JoeBlow, as long as you have the pak files for it yes
[04:53] <JoeBlow> ok cool
[04:53] <WebLOCH> JoeBlow, by default it allows you to grab the demo pak files, you need full game pak files to play full game of course
[04:53] <ompaul> Stork, report it as a bug on http://www.launchpad.net
[04:53] <Steve|> hey.. i hear WAN is really bad with linux?
[04:54] <frogzoo> Steve|: rubbish
[04:54] <paulproteus|lapt> Steve|: What do you mean by WAN?
[04:54] <mwe> now I'd like to see Jalf-Life 2 as well
[04:54] <Steve|> wireless lan
[04:54] <paulproteus|lapt> Do you mean wireless?  Wide-area network?
[04:54] <Steve|> yeah
[04:54] <WebLOCH> mwe, that would be amusing
[04:54] <jenda> frogzoo: I'll be damned... the only thing that strikes me is that the only bootble partition is NTFS, but then again... if it worked before... I have no clue.
[04:54] <paulproteus|lapt> Steve|: Well, I'm using wireless right now on my iBook G4....
[04:54] <JoeBlow> WebLOCH: alright, i got those
[04:54] <frogzoo> Steve|: some 802.11b/g cards don't have linux drivers...
[04:54] <paulproteus|lapt> Steve|: On Ubuntu, that is. (-:
[04:54] <WebLOCH> JoeBlow, good stuff, just download jake
[04:54] <ompaul> Steve|, Wide area lan is the norm for WAN
[04:55] <D-rock> Breezy has been running great on my laptop since it was released, but in the past 2 weeks it has been hanging all of the time.
[04:55] <ompaul> Steve|, sorry Wide area network is the norm for WAN
[04:55] <paulproteus|lapt> Now, wireless roaming I don't know a good solution for in Ubuntu.
[04:55] <frogzoo> jenda: well that makes 2 of us - I'm stumped - think I'll sleep on - thanks anyways :)
[04:55] <Steve|> ah k
[04:55] <jenda> Steve|: If you mean Wireless, then there are a few problems, but it's usually OK, and Dapper's supposed to fix most.
[04:56] <jenda> frogzoo: OK, night
[04:56] <frogzoo> D-rock: consider installing/running smartutils (disk checker)
[04:56] <Steve|> what kind of problems?
[04:56] <D-rock> Well, I dual booted to windows and windows runs fine. I also tried swapping the HD into an identical laptop and I get the same hangs
[04:56] <AndyLL> as i thought, when i moved the HD to my other machine ubuntu freaked out. Is there a way of getting it to rebuild itself?
[04:56] <D-rock> If it's plugged into Ethernet it usually only hangs 4-6 times a day
[04:57] <paulproteus|lapt> D-rock: You should really test the hard drive and the RAM.
[04:57] <paulproteus|lapt> D-rock: They commonly fail and their failures are often more obvious in Linux than in Windows.
[04:57] <fyrzen> why would that be?
[04:57] <D-rock> If it's not plugged into Ethernet it will sometimes hang on boot and will usually only last 5-10 minutes
[04:58] <D-rock> SMART values are all within thresholds
[04:58] <AndyLL> anyone?
[04:58] <D-rock> I've run memtest and it came up clean
[04:58] <D-rock> On both laptops
[04:58] <D-rock> Is there any way to do a more thorough HD check than just looking at SMART values?
[04:58] <Ng> smartctl can tell the drive to run a selftest
[04:58] <paulproteus|lapt> fyrzen: I think it's because people are used to programs hanging or crashing mysteriously in Windows.
[04:58] <frogzoo> D-rock: does it hang only when running x?
[04:59] <psusi> D-rock: yea... run badblocks
[04:59] <D-rock> No
[04:59] <D-rock> It hangs in recovery mode, too
[04:59] <D-rock> I'll try badblocks
[04:59] <frogzoo> D-rock: smartutils will let your run a 50minute disk test
[04:59] <frogzoo> D-rock: don't run badblocks on ide - bad idea
[04:59] <psusi> bug bad sectors won't cause hangs usually
[04:59] <D-rock> badblocks is non-destructive, what about this 50 minute test?
[04:59] <psusi> frogzoo: badblocks doesn't know or care what the electrical interface to the drive is..
[05:00] <frogzoo> psusi: badblocks killed an ide drive of mine once, & i've never forgiven it
[05:00] <D-rock> LOL
[05:00] <psusi> it iddn't kill it... the drive was already dead... badblocks was just the straw that broke the camel's back
[05:00] <D-rock> Well, at this point I'm going to back up my home dir and try anything, I can't get work done
[05:00] <frogzoo> D-rock: check the man page
[05:01] <frogzoo> D-rock: sure it's not an X problem?
[05:01] <frogzoo> or you're just running out of swap???
[05:01] <D-rock> frogzoo: hangs on console boot and in recovery mode, too
[05:01] <AndyLL> anyone help me?
[05:01] <psusi> D-rock: I think you are barking up the wrong tree.... hard locks are either X lockign up, or something wrong in the kernel... such as a buggy driver... most likely it's X
[05:01] <frogzoo> D-rock: dma settings mebbe? /etc/defaults somewhere
[05:02] <psusi> ohh, hangs in console too eh?  hrm... when it hangs, do the caps lock and friend's work?
[05:02] <psusi> i.e. can you toggle the LED on and off?
[05:02] <D-rock> Yeah, I checked and the dvd drive was not using dma, so I set /etc/hdparms.conf
[05:02] <D-rock> No, hard lockup. Even magic sysreq doesn't appear to work (not sure if that's enabled in stock kernels)
[05:02] <psusi> I don't think it's enabled in the breezy stock kernels... seems to be in dapper though
[05:02] <AndyLL> what is the command to get it to rebuild itself?
[05:03] <frogzoo> D-rock: what's magic sysreq, btw?
[05:03] <D-rock> frogzoo: kernel debug keystroke, alt-printscr
[05:03] <psusi> magic-sysreq rox0rs j00r s0x0rs
[05:03] <psusi> hehe
[05:03] <zosologist> anyone tell me where in gnome when things go to the system tray, how do i get em back
[05:03] <D-rock> lets you look at kernel procs, registers, etc
[05:04] <psusi> let's you do things like force the kernel to sync, remount read only, or reboot... even when the system appears otherwise to be completely hung
[05:04] <Jowi> AndyL: you installed ubuntu on a HDD on one system and then moved the HDD to another?
[05:04] <johan> test
[05:04] <WebLOCH> D-rock,  will it help me get my sensors working ?
[05:04] <D-rock> Jowi: yes
[05:04] <AndyLL> yes Jowi
[05:04] <AndyLL> i've rebooted in recovery mode
[05:04] <frogzoo> johan: pong
[05:04] <D-rock> webloch: no idea, but I've done kernel dev in the past and it really helps :)
[05:04] <AndyLL> as it had a problem with X
[05:04] <psusi> D-rock: so if you boot into recovery mode and just let it sit there at the prompt, it will eventually lock up?
[05:04] <D-rock> psusi: yes
[05:05] <AndyLL> is there a command to get it to rebuild itself?
[05:05] <WebLOCH> D-rock, im having awful luck getting my systems temp sensors working
[05:05] <D-rock> Whether I let it sit there or if I'm typing in recovery mode :(
[05:05] <Jowi> AndyL: where does it crash?
[05:05] <AndyLL> its not so much a crash
[05:05] <psusi> D-rock: any sort of correlation you have noticed?  like it lasts longer after the computer has been off and cold for a while?
[05:05] <AndyLL> something about X not working
[05:05] <AndyLL> I've rebooted in recovery mode and I have the cursor awaiting commands
[05:05] <D-rock> I was surmising that it might be the network driver, since it seems to hang often on boot when it gets to DHCP discovery, but it's just not that consistent in the boot sequence
[05:05] <Jowi> AndyLL: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:05] <zosologist> anyone want to tell me where the gnome system tray is
[05:06] <psusi> D-rock: and have you tried running memtest86?
[05:06] <yogi> should the dapper server kernel (currently 2.6.15-11) run on a PIII machine?
[05:06] <D-rock> It has hung pretty much everywhere in the boot sequence :(
[05:06] <D-rock> I tried memtest86 and it came up clean
[05:06] <AndyLL> trying that now Jowi
[05:06] <psusi> D-rock: let it run for hours?
[05:06] <Ng> yogi: it ought to, are you sure you want to run dapper though? ;)
[05:06] <yogi> Ng: I am playing with a future home server
[05:06] <D-rock> psusi: it's a paperweight if I let it run for hours :)
[05:07] <psusi> D-rock: try disabling the nic then... if the nic driver is buggy, it isn't likely that it would allways lock up in the same point during the boot sequence
[05:07] <akonkwa_> Jovi I tried to ping  216. .... but got no response
[05:07] <yogi> Ng: but hanging at boot spoils 99.99 of the fun ;)
[05:07] <psusi> D-rock: huh?  memtest86 can't run for hours and find no problems?
[05:07] <Jowi> akonkwa_: can you post your ifconfig in pastebin please
[05:07] <gnomefreak> hanging at boot begins the fun!!!
[05:07] <D-rock> psusi: sorry, I thought you meant normal run
[05:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:08] <DRK13> hi guys
[05:08] <D-rock> I'll try to run memtest86 for hours, but how do I prevent the nic driver from loading? rename the module? Or should I edit /etc/network and disable it there?
[05:08] <Ng> yota: try breezy :)
[05:08] <gnomefreak> yogi,  yes the 2.6.15-11 runs on my p2 i dont see why it wouldnt run on a p3
[05:08] <lennart_> what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work
[05:09] <Baninn> I'm trying to learn linux and i was looking at file premissions. I don't quite understand why any files should be read/write/exec for world/everybody. Are there any reason not to remove these premissions?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> yogidapper has a long way to go if you want problems install it if you dont want problems stick with breezy
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> D-rock,  theres a /etc/blacklist or /etc/modules/blacklist file that lists what modules to not auto-load.
[05:09] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone recommend a good and free codec to encode in?
[05:09] <D-rock> Dr_W: thanks, I'll check that
[05:09] <lennart_> what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work
[05:09] <D-rock> OK, off to break the laptop!
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Baninn,  RWE for everyone would be a little rare..
[05:10] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: ogg is free (and pretty ok)
[05:10] <fek> damn, breezy sucks a lot
[05:10] <Baninn> Dr_Willis, I didnt mean rwe, just any of them
[05:10] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, sorry i meant video data, though isn't there one by the same people?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Baninn,  but for a directory to be  where its contents can be seen/cd into.. it has to be executable..
[05:10] <gnomefreak> fek, whats wrong with breezy?
[05:11] <akonkwa_> Jovi: how do I post it in pastebin?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[05:11] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:11] <fek> gnomefreak: my xorg is completly broken
[05:12] <Jowi> sexcopter8000m: yep, ogg theora
[05:12] <fek> gnomefreak: and i am fed up to fix it over severall hours
[05:12] <AndyLL> Jowi, that seemed to work. Thanks. Now if I could only get my pcmcia wireless nic to work I'd be very happy
[05:12] <gnomefreak> fek, what is it doing? broken doesnt say much
[05:12] <Jowi> !tell akonkwa_ about pastebin
[05:12] <sexcopter8000m> fek, there's a command, something like sudo dpkg --reconfigure xorg, but don't quote me on that
[05:12] <Jowi> AndyLL: pcmcia wireless is out of my knowledge :)
[05:13] <fek> gnomefreak: when i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i'll get a running single head config, but when i want to build up the dualhead config again, it brokes
[05:13] <sexcopter8000m> Jowi, that's the baby, thanks
[05:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It's 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:13] <fek> sexcopter8000m: i will my old running config
[05:13] <gnomefreak> fek,  does breezy support duel head monitors?
[05:13] <fek> i toke 2 days to config the old config and i will not reconfig it again
[05:13] <fek> why not?
[05:13] <fek> it's linux?!
[05:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yes it does
[05:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I've had a dual-monitor setup before.
[05:14] <gnomefreak> fek, i dont know i only use one moniter per pc
[05:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I might even have my xorg.conf file... lemme check.
[05:14] <fek> damn, one time a running dist-upgrade... everytime the same shit... grr
[05:14] <sexcopter8000m> fek, depending on your graphics card, you set it up differently
[05:14] <sexcopter8000m> think it's called twinview with nvidia
[05:14] <psusi> D-rock: no... running memtest86... you need to let it run for several hours to be fairly sure you don't have a ram problem
[05:14] <psusi> D-rock: yank out the card
[05:14] <psusi> Baninn: on what file?  system files generally should be r to everyone, and x if they are programs.... stuff in your home directory shouldn't be
[05:14] <fek> it was quite difficult to set it up, because this intel 855gm sucks and the dell 2001FP tft, too.
[05:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fek: I have an xorg.conf file that worked for dual head... you'll have to change a few values for your hardware, but I'll put it in the pastebin and you can see it there.
[05:15] <fek> i switched to ubuntu to have a running system, but this is really worst.
[05:15] <cyphase> http://open.neurostechnology.com/files/dtcsa_1.html
[05:15] <sexcopter8000m> fek, ok, no idea about intel :p
[05:15] <fek> PuMpErNiCkLe: i _had_ a running config!
[05:16] <gnomefreak> fek,  its not ubuntus fault its not working if other people have set it up and working fine
[05:16] <Baninn> psusi, just files in general. I dont quite understand why everone need to be able to read or execute
[05:16] <fek> gnomefreak: why not?
[05:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fek: Yeah, but you don't have one now, do you? ;)
[05:16] <fek> why must they change this fonts and so on on a way, nothing will run after it?
[05:16] <Jowi> gnomefreak: yeah, that will make fek less annoyed ;)
[05:16] <gnomefreak> fek, make sure your card supports it than make sure you have right drivers
[05:16] <gnomefreak> lol Jowi
[05:16] <fek> gnomefreak: wtf? of course the card supports it
[05:16] <fek> it run with hoary
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> nvidia also has their own way of doing dual-head, or you can use the xcinirama stuff.
[05:17] <fek> after breezy it won't run!
[05:18] <hikenboot> hello all I cant seem to find the base package for installing latex...i see a lot of other latex packages but not the base one...i need it for compiling xen docs?
[05:19] <fek> rofl... X is not executable
[05:19] <lennart_> what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work
[05:19] <lillpelle> fek: if you really want help it may be a better strategy to stop blaming ubuntu for everything and try to give more information about the actual problem.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> hikenboot,  if you click on the other packages in synaptic - it 'should' auto select (or ask to select) the needed latex packages as well.
[05:19] <fek> lillpelle: if i could find something usefull in the logs, i will do...
[05:20] <fek> my problem is like this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-35143.html
[05:20] <hikenboot> ah so just install another latex higher order package and it will install the latex base one you mena
[05:20] <hikenboot> ah synaptic
[05:20] <hikenboot> got you thanks Dr_Willis
[05:21] <tonberry1> im trying to get the "make" program (it seems the wmware-version of ubuntu doesnt include that). I typed "sudo apt-setup install make" and chose a country to download from, it went fine in that point ( http://var.tonberry1.net/searchingMake.jpg ), but then there was some error ( http://var.tonberry1.net/searchingMake2.jpg ). Any suggestions what i could do to get the "make" program?
[05:22] <cajun> i can't access one comp from the other.  it worked fine last night.  i need to transfer files.  both runing ubuntu.  one is Live the other is breezy.  pings work on both for IP and Name
[05:22] <fek> PuMpErNiCkLe
[05:22] <cajun> i have restarted samba on both machines
[05:22] <fek> PuMpErNiCkLe: could you show me your config please?
[05:22] <jessica_> im running ubuntu and kubuntu-when i log in to my ubuntu session the sound works-on kubuntu the sound does not work....it says "sound server information message..error while initializing the sound driver..coulndt connect to server..the sound server will continue,using the null output device" how can i fix this without breaking gnome?
[05:23] <monyetz> can someone help me to seeting vlc /
[05:23] <monyetz> ?
[05:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6652
[05:23] <Mabus06> who's trying to set up dual head, and for what card?
[05:23] <monyetz> i'm using breezy with wlan on a router from msi rg54gw
[05:23] <monyetz> i'm using breezy with wlan on a router from msi rg54gs
[05:23] <mwe> can someone running the ubuntu kernel cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq and tell my the output. I am runninng a custom kernel
[05:23] <gnomefreak> fek, thats really nothing like your problem thats only for 1 monitor and has been taken care of in breezy already
[05:24] <monyetz> but the problem i can not wathc tv over sap session
[05:24] <monyetz> how should i set my router ?
[05:24] <lorenzo> hallo
[05:24] <gnomefreak> mwe give me a sec
[05:24] <mwe> ok
[05:24] <gnomefreak> mwe i got a 1 for output lol
[05:24] <tonberry1> how can i add a program to be launched from anywhere from ubuntu if i just type its name?
[05:24] <mwe> gnomefreak: good
[05:24] <tonberry1> (type its name in terminal i mean)
[05:24] <fek> gnomefreak: sure, but where is the problem else located?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> thats good?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> hikenboot,   the package names seem to be 'tetex-base'  and tetex-extras and tetex-docs  from what i can tell
[05:25] <fek> gnomefreak: is there something now concering xinerama?
[05:25] <mwe> gnomefreak: it should be a number or file not found :)
[05:25] <Mabus06> I got a 1, too.
[05:25] <fek> gnomefreak: because i am using xinerama on false
[05:25] <raar> add the path to the binary to $PATH
[05:25] <fek> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks
[05:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fek: np
[05:25] <lillpelle> fek: when trying to start X do you get some (EE) entries in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:26] <fek> PuMpErNiCkLe: bfg? played to much quake? ;)
[05:26] <fek> lillpelle: nothing like that
[05:26] <Mabus06> doom, you mean?
[05:26] <fek> lillpelle: and no unusual warnings
[05:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fek: It's actually a company, but yeah... :)
[05:26] <fek> Mabus06: quake of course, too ;)
[05:26] <Mabus06> there is a bfg in quake?
[05:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: The BFG10k
[05:26] <fek> Mabus06: of course
[05:26] <Mabus06> e-bum me one, gnomefreak
[05:27] <darkritual> Any onne knows howto test my video card?
[05:27] <fek> could that be the problem?
[05:27] <fek>         Option                "UseFBDev"                "false"
[05:28] <fek> i don't use it
[05:29] <AIV> when I go into "synaptic", I check the option that allows me to view disabled repositories, some say (source) and others (binary), which would I enable and why?
[05:29] <lennart_> what should I install to get the development docs? .. man strstr and stuff dont work
[05:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fek: I don't think using/not using the kernel framebuffer would cause any difficulties, but you can try toggling it.
[05:29] <trappist> AIV: you only need source repositories if you're going to be downloading and rebuilding source packages, which isn't usually necessary.
[05:30] <AIV> trappist, is it best to enable repositories via synaptic, or by editing the file using gedit?
[05:31] <trappist> AIV: either way is just fine
[05:31] <Jowi> qemu is quite a bizarre feeling to use. to have the winxp setup in a window in linux is... wierd :)
[05:31] <golan> Hi! Do you know any PHP script that can manage pictures without a DB (like Gallery)?
[05:31] <golan> or PHP software?
[05:31] <gnomefreak> AIV, i use gedit but its pretty much the same one graphical other is texted
[05:31] <trappist> golan: I use mcpics
[05:31] <trappist> golan: but it's no longer maintained
[05:31] <gnomefreak> -ed
[05:31] <golan> trappist: what a pity
[05:31] <golan> do you have any other suggestions?
[05:32] <trappist> golan: roll your own? ;)
[05:32] <golan> eheh good idea... but I have small time for it :)
[05:33] <gnomefreak> trappist, cant he pick up gallery and maintain it?
[05:33] <trappist> actually that's a good point, since I sort of did that :)
[05:34] <trappist> I just fixed a few bugs and sent them to the author, but he never replied and has dropped the project.
[05:34] <gnomefreak> i figure the code is there change a few things and poof
[05:34] <trappist> golan: if you're a php guy I can give you my modifications to mcpics and you can take over from there
[05:34] <gnomefreak> trappist, that suckslol
[05:34] <chmod775> has anyone used art manager in ubuntu
[05:34] <chmod775> ?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> chmod775, yes its gnome-art
[05:35] <chmod775> hey it does'nt work properly
[05:35] <gnomefreak> chmod775, can you please explain that a bit more?
[05:35] <irvin> chmod775, works fine here
[05:35] <kakei> hi who can help me with this smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[05:35] <golan> trappist, I prefer finding a deb package or similar
[05:35] <AIV> thanks for your help
[05:35] <golan> but thanks anyway
[05:35] <chmod775> when I want to download mouse themes or icons
[05:35] <chmod775> then it simply just hangs even after downloading and iinstalling
[05:36] <chmod775> has that happened with you guys
[05:36] <chmod775> ?
[05:36] <gnomefreak> chmod775, breezy? and how long are we talking about hanging?
[05:36] <trappist> golan: apt-cache search thumbnail | grep php shows 'phpix'
[05:36] <_xet> Why cant i play music in amaroK? Works in mplayer.
[05:36] <chmod775> hang on I tried it long back
[05:36] <chmod775> lemme see it now
[05:36] <chmod775> hang on
[05:36] <Jowi> chmod775: you can copy the icons straight into a folder in you $HOME/.icons directory. don't know about cursor themes though
[05:36] <imperfectus> Anyone know how I can make ubuntu stop checking for media in my damn DVD drive?
[05:37] <chmod775> yes Jowi
[05:37] <trappist> _xet: what kind of music
[05:37] <imperfectus> It's filling my dmesg with crap
[05:37] <chmod775> I am aware
[05:37] <golan> good idea
[05:37] <_xet> trappist: mp3
[05:37] <trappist> !tell _xet about mp3
[05:37] <gnomefreak> Jowi, you always have to do things the easy way lol j/k
[05:37] <chmod775> I click on install and then it hangs
[05:38] <brime> does anyone here know how to get usb runing on a laptop?
[05:38] <Jowi> gnomefreak: sorry :)
[05:38] <chmod775> it's says it's downlaoding the file but it dodes'nt
[05:38] <gnomefreak> chmod775,  on breezy?
[05:38] <chmod775> yes
[05:39] <_xet> Thanks.
[05:39] <gnomefreak> ok completely remove it and re-install it but as for pointers and icons i dont use it for that but the re-install did fix that for me
[05:39] <stark-johan> Where do I find my kernel.config (I wan t to check if I have a certain module compiled in the kernel or not)
[05:40] <gnomefreak> but mine would crash sometimes too :((
[05:40] <Jowi> stark-johan: /boot
[05:40] <chmod775> ok
[05:40] <AIV> I tried creating a launcher to the ubuntu wiki on my desktop, and in the command area I put the URL, but it doesn't work
[05:40] <chmod775> then what's new in breezy
[05:40] <ccooke> stark-johan: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[05:41] <AIV> am I stuck on windows thinking?  is that the wrong way to do that?
[05:41] <JoeBlow> so does anyone here have any experience with loki?
[05:41] <chmod775> hey does anyone know how to install transparency for gdesklets
[05:41] <chmod775> ?
[05:41] <AIV> I basically want a shortcut to the ubuntu wiki page on my desltop
[05:41] <chmod775> gnomefreak, ?
[05:41] <AIV> desktop
[05:41] <trappist> AIV: drag the link from your browser to your desktop
[05:41] <gnomefreak> chmod775, new? breezy?
[05:41] <chmod775> gdesklets?
[05:41] <Jowi> chmod775: gdesklets are transparent by default
[05:41] <CodenameKT> AIV: in a way yes. windows defaults to IE for web pages but linux u will hafta do a command like firefox http://www.google.com
[05:42] <chmod775> But I can't see the transparency
[05:42] <chmod775> ?
[05:42] <chmod775> huh
[05:42] <chmod775> ?
[05:42] <kameron> i have an amd64 on a dfi board, and the install always messes up grub when it's on my mbr. i think it's my board. anyways. is there a way i can install the bootloader "by hand".. on knoppix or something?
[05:42] <fek> http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/xorg.conf
[05:42] <Jowi> chmod775: of course not. it's transparent :D
[05:42] <fek> what's wron with this config?
[05:42] <fek> i build it up on the new config by dpkg-reconfigure and added my second screen
[05:42] <chmod775> I don't agree
[05:42] <chmod775> gnomefreak, ?
[05:42] <mwe> someone please tell me the output of ls /etc/rc2.d/| grep gdm
[05:43] <mwe> I think mine is wrong, starting gdm to early
[05:43] <Jowi> mwe: i could if i had gdm installed
[05:43] <gnomefreak> chmod775, i dont use gdesklets
[05:43] <ccooke> mwe: gdm starts at position 13
[05:43] <yanis> hello
[05:43] <chmod775> in ls /etc/rc2.d will give the files in /etc/rc2.d dir
[05:43] <epaulyh> hi
[05:43] <jenda> hey yanis
[05:43] <chmod775> then grepp gdm will find the gdm file
[05:43] <chmod775> or dir
[05:43] <stark-johan> ccooke > what does the letters mean (y=yes I guess) m = manually? I'd like better parallell port support.
[05:43] <chmod775> mwe, ?
[05:43] <ccooke> mwe: also, ls /etc/rc2.d/*gdm is a 'cleaner' way of doing the lookup
[05:44] <Jowi> stark-johan: m is module
[05:44] <fek>  hello?
[05:44] <julio> Hi
[05:44] <mwe> ccooke: yeah maybe
[05:44] <julio> I did the download of ubuntu 5.10 yesterday
[05:44] <ccooke> stark-johan: y means it's built into the kernel directly, m means it's built as a module.
[05:44] <julio> and i want install the WINE
[05:44] <fek>  hello?
[05:44] <epaulyh> how do you get to other servers?
[05:44] <stark-johan> Jowi > So "m"s are active?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> !wine
[05:44] <mwe> chmod775: yeah. I needed to know the default startup number for gdm
[05:45] <julio> i downlload the of wine in one site
[05:45] <fek> ...
[05:45] <Jowi> stark-johan: yep, if the module is found during startup :)
[05:45] <julio> but it doesnt function
[05:45] <julio> xD
[05:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell julio about wine
[05:45] <chmod775> default startup, mwe
[05:45] <monyetz> how can i seeting my router,so that i can watch sap tv on vlc ?
[05:45] <chmod775> ?
[05:45] <julio> !wine
[05:45] <epaulyh> oh well
[05:45] <AIV> when I drag the link from my browser it creates a txt like doc with the link written out, but not a hyperlink
[05:45] <julio> how gnome freak:
[05:45] <chmod775> what do u mean by that mwe
[05:45] <jenda> what's wrong with ubotu
[05:45] <chmod775> ?
[05:45] <AIV> and the launcher just does'nt work
[05:45] <chmod775> !hi
[05:45] <ubotu> hi!
[05:45] <Madeye> guys, what is ubuntu-desktop package ?
[05:45] <stark-johan> Jowi > And "is not set" are not present or possible to install without recompiling the kernel?
[05:45] <julio> Hi ubotu
[05:45] <mcscruff> Hi, im haveing trouble running a java app can someone help Please http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/491902
[05:46] <julio> Can you help-me with the wine or cedega?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> julio, read waht ubotu sent you
[05:46] <wizardjames> whats a good and EASY ftp server to setup and get ready?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> i use neither thank god
[05:46] <CodenameKT> AIV: make a launcher with the command firefox http://www.____.com
[05:46] <julio> ok
[05:46] <_robzon> hi all
[05:46] <yanis> I installed xserver to an 'server install' ubuntu but some vital components are missing. for example when I startX It doesnt run XDM....shouldnt all these be just ok?
[05:46] <Jowi> stark-johan: i guess that "not set" is for the options that has been skipped during compilation time
[05:46] <chmod775> !wine
[05:46] <_robzon> I get this error on MANY packages (downgrading from dapper do breezy): libgnome2-0: Depends: libgnome2-common (= 2.12.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.13.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[05:47] <ccooke> Madeye: It's a virtual package ( it has only dependencies, no files) which depends on everything necessary for a standard ubuntu desktop system
[05:47] <julio> gnome
[05:47] <greenpenguin13> evening all
[05:47] <epaulyh> if i want to get to a specific irc channel but when i click on it says "irc is not a registered protocol" what do i do?
[05:47] <julio> it not it..
[05:47] <Madeye>  ccooke well, I did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and now it want to install 550 MB!
[05:47] <Sturgeon> epaulyh: what client are you using?
[05:47] <fek> what's wrong with this config? http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/xorg.conf
[05:47] <ccooke> Madeye: sounds about right.
[05:48] <epaulyh> client?
[05:48] <Jowi> stark-johan: "not set" is the same as N in make menuconfig. make will cause all options with N/Not set to be ignored.
[05:48] <Madeye> ccooke, but i already have most of packages
[05:48] <CodenameKT> epaulyh: u can install a firewall extension to handle irc chat in fox otherwise u need a client
[05:48] <epaulyh> how do you find that out?
[05:48] <ccooke> fek: that's not very helpful - what's going wrong, and what symptoms do you get?
[05:48] <CodenameKT> epaulyh: firewall = firefox
[05:48] <Madeye> ccooke,  I have all of the packages, so why it requesting them again
[05:48] <ccooke> Madeye: apt thinks you don't, though. There could be many reasons why
[05:49] <wizardjames> whats a good ftp server..  ?
[05:49] <julio> gnome
[05:49] <yanis> I installed xserver to an 'server install' ubuntu but some vital components are missing. for example when I startX It doesnt run XDM....shouldnt all these be just ok?
[05:49] <ccooke> Madeye: is this a new install?
[05:49] <Jowi> epaulyh: you need an irc plugin for firefox in order to use it to connect to irc.
[05:49] <CodenameKT> epaulyh:if u install the extension it will make it so when u click on your links to chat rooms it will use it's chat client to connect to irc
[05:49] <julio> gnomefreak, i have error with the wine
[05:49] <Madeye> ccooke, ccooke  no it's not new install
[05:49] <julio> i put the WINEINSTALL in /tools/wineisntall
[05:49] <stark-johan> Jowi > Sounds logical, thanks.
[05:49] <ccooke> Madeye: what version of ubuntu?
[05:49] <AIV> CodenameKT, that did it, thank you
[05:49] <fek> ccooke: i tell it the hunderd time.... i upgraded from hoary to breeze... after a reboot the X starts up and i only get a green screen
[05:49] <CodenameKT> AIV: no prob
[05:49] <Madeye> ccooke, breezy
[05:49] <julio> and the install.. but my progans dont function
[05:50] <julio> I have the cs 1,6,exe!
[05:50] <ccooke> fek: have you tried reconfiguring X?
[05:50] <julio> but he dont get
[05:50] <Madeye> ccooke, 2.6.12-10-686
[05:50] <epaulyh> how do you install the extension?
[05:50] <Madeye> ccooke,  and it's a laptop if it does matter .
[05:50] <CodenameKT> epaulyh: open firefox
[05:50] <epaulyh> ok
[05:50] <Jowi> stark-johan: if you have a look in the config you will also see that all the options that "is not set" is also commented out.
[05:50] <fek> ccooke: yes... via dpkc-reconfigure the local tft starts up perfect. but when i add my second screen to xorg.conf.. it will breake
[05:50] <julio> do i need get the WINE 0.9.0.5.deb:
[05:50] <julio> ?
[05:51] <CodenameKT> epaulyh: go to tools extensions and then the link at bottom right get more extensions
[05:51] <kameron> i have an amd64 on a dfi board, and the install always messes up grub when it's on my mbr. i think it's my board. anyways. is there a way i can install the bootloader "by hand".. on knoppix or something?
[05:51] <ccooke> ah, so it's a multi screen issue. Which graphic card?
[05:51] <julio> tem algum brasileiro aqui?
[05:51] <CodenameKT> search the extensions on web site for irc and dl a client then restart firefox
[05:51] <ccooke> Madeye: so, why are you doing an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[05:51] <Jowi> !tell kameron about grub
[05:51] <hikenboot> Dr_Willis thanks once again I am about to install synaptic...but i want to figure out how to get a dependancy list from apt-get...
[05:51] <julio> ALGUM BRASILEIRO AQUI?
[05:52] <ccooke> Madeye: If you already have a working install, you wouldn't normally need to.
[05:52] <kameron> ty jowi
[05:52] <Madeye> ccooke, one of the packages required it to be installed
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> hikenboot,   apt has soo many tools/options and theres several dozen docs/howto/guides :P  i just cheat and uyse synaptic
[05:52] <julio> who know how install IMULE:/
[05:52] <julio> ?
[05:52] <ccooke> Madeye: apt takes care of dependencies for you, you don't need to do it manually
[05:52] <kameron> julio: is it java?
[05:52] <khermans> Anyone know how to convert video for use on the iPod?
[05:52] <CodenameKT> julio: is that a phile sharing program?
[05:52] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[05:53] <epaulyh> thanks
[05:53] <kameron> codenamekt: it is
[05:53] <ccooke> Madeye: so, what were you trying to install? why can't you just install that package using apt?
[05:53] <fek> ccooke: it looks like this: http://www.paperfrog.de/images/medium/20-tuerkis.jpg
[05:53] <julio> no
[05:53] <cat> hey how can i installed nxclient
[05:53] <julio> its is EMULE
[05:53] <julio> but for LINUX
[05:53] <undre6k> Hey I wanna write to my NTFS partition with ubuntu, will I have any problems?
[05:53] <CodenameKT> kameron: uhm uhm uhm r u trying to download music
[05:53] <CodenameKT> epaulyh: no prob
[05:53] <khermans> undre6k, yes there is no safe way to do that
[05:53] <kameron> julio: emule isn't p2p? i'm sure it is.
[05:53] <kameron> codenamekt: im not interested in emule, julio is
[05:53] <CodenameKT> kameron: uhm uhm uhm julio is
[05:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> khermans: Yes there is, but you need the 2.6.15 kernel - it's a new feature.
[05:53] <khermans> kameron, FrostWire is the best p2p
[05:54] <Madeye> ccooke, hmm ok I'll cancel the download
[05:54] <julio> yes.. EMULE is p2p!
[05:54] <khermans> PuMpErNiCkLe, it is safe?!?!
[05:54] <fek> ccooke?
[05:54] <ccooke> fek: Very nice. What graphic card do you have?
[05:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> khermans: Within a few limits, yet.
[05:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *yes
[05:54] <FieldySnuts> hello, new ubuntu user, but experienced in linux in general. how can I get nxclient installed? I uncommented a few repositories, updated, but apt-cache search nxclient shows nothing.
[05:54] <fek> ccooke: intel 855gm
[05:54] <julio> yes im interested in emule
[05:54] <kameron> julio: i don't know about emule, i'll look into it for you. i have limewire installed though.
[05:54] <julio> because i want the CEDEGA 5.0
[05:54] <khermans> julio, use FrostWire
[05:54] <julio> who have??
[05:54] <CodenameKT> bittorent is the best p2p then any wires or mules or donkeys or kazaas
[05:54] <julio> hm.. ok
[05:54] <chmod775> hi
[05:54] <julio> Hey men, who have CEDEGA 5.0??
[05:54] <Sturgeon> FieldySnuts: did you look in packages.ubuntu.com ?
[05:55] <Jowi> tell FieldySnuts about seveas
[05:55] <Jowi> !tell FieldySnuts about seveas
[05:55] <Jowi> hehe
[05:55] <kameron> codenamekt: obviously bt is the best ever. but it's so bandwidth hungry. and sometimes you just want one song, not the album.
[05:55] <julio> who can send-me the CEDEGA 5.0?
[05:55] <Jowi> FieldySnuts: FreeNX
[05:55] <ccooke> fek: Ah. Never used one of those. What you want to do is search google for i855 multi-screen help
[05:55] <kameron> julio: that's kind of illegal.
[05:55] <khermans> CodenameKT, p2p is bad -- use binary newsgroups
[05:55] <ccooke> unless anyone here knows?
[05:55] <jenda> CodenameKT: Azureus rules IMO :)
[05:55] <julio> Sorry
[05:55] <chmod775> !Fieldysnuts
[05:55] <ubotu> chmod775: I give up, what is it?
[05:55] <FieldySnuts> hang on one thing at a time :) thanks for the suggestions
[05:55] <ccooke> julio: cedega isn't very expensive
[05:55] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[05:55] <ubotu> cedega is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[05:55] <CodenameKT> kameron: troo troo.
[05:55] <julio> I dont talk about it more ok?
[05:55] <CodenameKT> khermans: newsgroups cost no?
[05:56] <julio> but im brazilian.. i cant send my money to UNITED STATES
[05:56] <CodenameKT> that defeats the purpos
[05:56] <khermans> CodenameKT, so what -- you download at full speed
[05:56] <khermans> CodenameKT, $15/month
[05:56] <gnomefreak> julio,  as for wine i dont think you read those pages i found support pages for it all over the place
[05:56] <CodenameKT> khermans: im a college student
[05:56] <FieldySnuts> nope, not freenx either. let me read that factoid.
[05:56] <fek> ccooke: but it worked before i upgraded to breezy
[05:56] <khermans> CodenameKT, the ability to have whatever you want instantly?!?!
[05:56] <CodenameKT> 15/month breaks into beer costs
[05:56] <yanis> damn ubuntu 5.10!there is no x-window-system package!!
[05:56] <khermans> CodenameKT, so am i
[05:56] <Durban> how do I use a .run file?
[05:56] <Sturgeon> yanis: huh?
[05:56] <khermans> Durban, ./foo.run
[05:56] <ccooke> fek: you've installed new versions of the drivers.
[05:56] <Jowi> FieldySnuts: freenx should be available on the seveas repos
[05:56] <CodenameKT> khermans: Isn't there limits too on newsgroups?
[05:57] <julio> gnomefreak
[05:57] <jenda> Durban: sudo sh file.run
[05:57] <khermans> CodenameKT, not if you pay and it is 100% anonymous
[05:57] <ccooke> fekj: Some things will haqve changed.
[05:57] <julio> yes i read! im download the wine 0.9.5.deb
[05:57] <fek> ccooke: and i am searching since 4 hours...
[05:57] <khermans> CodenameKT, you can use Ninan for downloading
[05:57] <darkritual> Some one type: glxgears
[05:57] <CodenameKT> khermans: well 15/month isn't bad
[05:57] <yanis> Sturgeon: it doesnt
[05:57] <darkritual> In terminal
[05:57] <gnomefreak> julio, http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/Main_Page
[05:57] <eva> hi
[05:57] <julio> hm..
[05:57] <khermans> CodenameKT, newzbin.com and usenetserver.com
[05:57] <kameron> julio: join channel #blahboom
[05:57] <julio> ok
[05:57] <CodenameKT> khermans: I'll look into it more thnx
[05:57] <eva> hello
[05:58] <Sturgeon> yanis: what is it that you're looking for?
[05:58] <Durban> i have it on the desktop, so i type sudo sh install.run , but it tells me No such file or directory
[05:58] <eva> how are you
[05:58] <Jowi> darkritual: are you having problems with glx?
[05:58] <darkritual> Jowi, i don't get the amount of FPS
[05:58] <yanis> Sturgeon: I want to install the whole X window system right...
[05:58] <Jowi> darkritual: you need to type in a switch for that
[05:58] <jessica__> i need help with kubuntu please
[05:58] <lowman62> obouy
[05:58] <Sturgeon> yanis: didn't you follow a default installation?
[05:59] <Sturgeon> if you did so, it should be already installed
[05:59] <yanis> Sturgeon: I want to have 'server install'
[05:59] <lowman62> lol
[05:59] <lowman62> then you don't need x
[05:59] <Sturgeon> d'uh
[05:59] <[-SiO-] > can i add extra RAID (fakeraid) drivers at ubuntu's installation?
[05:59] <Durban> jenda: i have it on the desktop, so i type sudo sh install.run , but it tells me No such file or directory
[05:59] <CodenameKT> jessica_ :speak
[05:59] <[-SiO-] > if so how can i do that
[05:59] <jessica__> i have no sound-when i go to kmixer i dont see nothing for me to select in the current mixer option-the volume icon have an x on it like if its muted but when i log in to ubuntu the sound works
[05:59] <yanis> aa!!! I do... I just dontn want GNOME!!!
[06:00] <jenda> Durban: sudo sh ./Desktop/install.run
[06:00] <jessica__> CodenameKT, look above
[06:00] <fek> ccooke: http://groups.google.de/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_frm/thread/35a09e870a0364ba/fdb5cf443a522014?lnk=st&q=intel+855gm+xorg+dual+screen+problem&rnum=2&hl=de#fdb5cf443a522014
[06:00] <Jowi> darkritual: "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[06:00] <lowman62> right next to me is a server box...no gnome..no x...just a server box LOL
[06:00] <Durban> jenda: ty. that worked
[06:00] <CodenameKT> jessica_: so ur saying sound doesn't work unless u boot x?
[06:00] <jenda> Durban: np
[06:00] <jessica__> yeah only when i sign to gnome
[06:01] <darkritual> Jowi, its for Video card drivers
[06:01] <jessica__> not under kde
[06:01] <yanis> lowman62:so tell me how to have a clear system without all the gnome crap...
[06:01] <CodenameKT> jessica_: it doesn't work in kde?
[06:01] <Jowi> darkritual: "glxgears -printfps" also work
[06:01] <yanis> lowman62: and just have MY Windom MANAger
[06:01] <jessica__> it worked the very first time i installed kubuntu but then it stopped working
[06:01] <darkritual> Bright one thnx jowi
[06:01] <jessica__> yes it works in ubuntu gnome but not in kubuntu kde
[06:01] <ccooke> fek: There's not a lot I could do to help - I've never used that card
[06:01] <Ng> yanis: either do a normal install and put a different desktop on, or do a server install and add on the desktop bits you do want
[06:01] <CodenameKT> jessica_: ouch, u got me stumpped
[06:01] <Jowi> darkritual: but it's much more fun typing "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[06:02] <jessica__> i have searched but no luck
[06:02] <lowman62> yanis: dunno...I just installed two boxes...one server and one default...i have no probs and that is that :P
[06:02] <darkritual> 4602 frames in 5.0 seconds = 920.355 FPS
[06:02] <darkritual> 4527 frames in 5.0 seconds = 905.228 FPS
[06:02] <yanis> Ng: THe problem is with the 'packaging' of the xserver/x-window system...
[06:02] <darkritual> yep it worked Jowi
[06:02] <yanis> Ng: it doenstn install it right!
[06:02] <darkritual> why jowi?
[06:02] <kameron> !tell julio about apt
[06:02] <Jowi> darkritual: just because :)
[06:02] <CodenameKT> jessica_: if it works in ubuntu when u sign on gnome why do u need it for console?
[06:03] <darkritual> its the same
[06:03] <darkritual> lol
[06:03] <Jowi> lol
[06:03] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[06:03] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[06:03] <Ng> yanis: it looks right to me, why do you think it's not right?
[06:03] <jessica__> because i use kde and my brother uses gnome
[06:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:03] <kameron> jessica_: wait.. you're saying. girls use linux?
[06:03] <jessica__> thats why we did both installs-
[06:03] <yanis> Ng: man, tell me what package to install to have the X window system..?
[06:03] <jessica__> well i do
[06:04] <kameron> :P cool
[06:04] <CodenameKT> kameron:lol
[06:04] <kameron> just joshin
[06:04] <jessica__> i love linux
[06:04] <CodenameKT> seveas: maybe u can help jessica with her problem
[06:04] <djst> is it just me or are every gdesklet display broken?
[06:04] <Ng> yanis: X is made of lots of packages
[06:04] <FieldySnuts> djst: what version of hal or hald are you running?
[06:04] <e_machinist> Having the Linux kernel image as an upgradeable package is so strange...
[06:04] <djst> i installed gdesklet in ubuntu and visited gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org and tried a number of desklets
[06:04] <djst> none of them work as advertised
[06:05] <CodenameKT> I gotta go to court
[06:05] <djst> always errors about missing controls and stuff
[06:05] <Jowi> djst: gdesklets have never worked well since they started the project
[06:05] <kameron> em
[06:05] <FieldySnuts> djst: ack, ignore me, i am confused (thinking I am in another channel), sorry
[06:05] <Ng> yanis: you could try xserver-xorg and x-window-system-core, but I'm not sure if that will pull in everything required
[06:05] <kameron> e_machinist: i know hey. i still compile from source. just feels right :P
[06:05] <whyameye> ! restricted formats
[06:05] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:05] <djst> Jowi: what's the point of having a cool desktop project that never works??
[06:05] <yanis> Ng: of course I know that. *but* with 5.04 apt-get install xserver made the whole job
[06:05] <ildegar_> apt-get install x-window-system will install everything you need + tons of stuff
[06:05] <yanis> Ng: it dont pull all the required :/
[06:06] <Jowi> djst: exactly the right question.
[06:06] <e_machinist> kameron: I agree... although I suppose it is nice having multiple kernel choices in the boot loader... heh.
[06:06] <Ng> yanis: *shrug* start looking at apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop and see what else you think you might want, or just install ubuntu-desktop and remove bits you don't want
[06:06] <Jowi> djst: gdesklets have been having crashes and flukiness for the past two years
[06:06] <kameron> e_machinist: true, true
[06:06] <djst> so it's the same for everyone? then why are desklets authors publishing their cool desklets, if no one can get it to work? surely there must be some distros that have this working?
[06:06] <yanis> Ng: ubuntu desktop installs gnome????
[06:06] <kameron> djst: have what working?
[06:07] <kameron> yanis: yes
[06:07] <Ng> yanis: correct
[06:07] <stylesp> yanis: get xorg-common
[06:07] <ildegar_> i guess it's not a matter of a distro
[06:07] <djst> for example: "No Control could be found for interface ITheSimpsonsQuote:eie5d13c5x9nkzr28hvab4bo7-2
[06:07] <djst> /home/djst/.gdesklets/Displays/TheSimpsonsQuote/TheSimpsonsQuote.display
[06:07] <djst> "
[06:07] <vbgunz> Ubuntu doesn't come with a calendar application able to keep appointments and set reminders correct? I would have to download Sunbird or something equivalent?
[06:07] <djst> and it's always like that... nothing ever works if you install a desklet
[06:07] <Ng> vbgunz: Evolution
[06:07] <kameron> vbgunz: i'm not sure. that only calendar program i use is "cal" :P but it's very basic.
[06:07] <e_machinist> vbgunz: Evolution software package.
[06:07] <yanis> stylesp: I do have that package too- but I xdm isnt configured right for example
[06:08] <djst> No Control could be found for interface INewsGrab:48m60psf7xjr2nbbkjcdewmsa
[06:08] <djst> /home/djst/.gdesklets/Displays/SideCandyRSS/sc_rss.display
[06:08] <yanis> stylesp: moreover it didnt install even xterm
[06:08] <vbgunz> Evolution is an email suite isn't it? Could I just use the calendar without it interfering with Thunderbird?
[06:08] <djst> Runtime Error
[06:08] <djst> /home/djst/.gdesklets/Displays/SideCandyRSS/sc_rss.display
[06:08] <djst> kameron: no matter what desklet i try to install, i get those error messages
[06:08] <djst> and all desklets report they installed "successfully"
[06:08] <seicherlbob> anybody ever installed ati-drivers on a laptop?
[06:09] <kameron> djst: what is a desklet?
[06:09] <Jowi> djst: try the one from the repos. they work but only just.
[06:09] <Ng> yanis: you could try xubuntu-desktop, which just installs xfce instead of gnome
[06:09] <stylesp> yanis: dpkg --reconfigure xdm? or whats wrong
[06:09] <djst> Jowi: ok
[06:09] <e_machinist> seicherlbob: no... but it shouldn't be different than the regular way.
[06:09] <djst> kameron: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[06:09] <yanis> Ng: ohh.that's more cool
[06:09] <Jowi> yanis: kubuntu-desktop installs kde
[06:09] <ildegar_> kameron, for instance it's a little "window" which shows you the temperature of your cpu
[06:09] <seicherlbob> e_machinist: Just took me 30 minutes to recover the original state again.
[06:09] <yanis> stylesp: I'll try it
[06:09] <kameron> ohhh.
[06:09] <kameron> like.. that gnu program. what's it called. i used to run it.
[06:10] <e_machinist> seicherlbob: what was the problem after you installed? The official ATI or the FGLRX drivers?
[06:10] <cajun> is installing ubuntu before xp to set up a dual boot system difficult?
[06:10] <seicherlbob> e_machinist: FGLRX stuff from ati-website
[06:10] <stylesp> yanis: dpkg-reconfigure xdm, ups
[06:11] <gnomefreak> cajun, yes
[06:11] <gnomefreak> install windows first make it alot easier
[06:11] <e_machinist> seicherlbob: did you try just installing the xorg-fglrx package?
[06:11] <e_machinist> from the repositories?
[06:11] <ish> Do I gain or lose anything by using the AMD64 release on my AMD64?
[06:12] <seicherlbob> e_machinist: i run the script that told me i should run the config afterwards and then restart the machine. i did so and messed it up.
[06:12] <kameron> gnomefreak: it's not any harder to do it the other way around. just have to mess with the bootloader.
[06:12] <kameron> ish: it's a great release.
[06:12] <seicherlbob> e_machinist: or should i apt-get it or something?
[06:12] <e_machinist> seicherlbob: one sec...
[06:12] <gnomefreak> kameron, that makes it harder than just doing install :))
[06:12] <kameron> gnoemfreak: okay, okay, you're right :P
[06:13] <phreak97> hey, is there any chance i could use a windows driver via wine?
[06:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: not really
[06:13] <AIV> whatis the name of the repositories file?
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> AIV: /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:14] <tyler_> anyone can help me.. i install gift p2p.. but cannot connect to the networks? why?
[06:14] <ish> kameron: Can you still download and run 32 bit binary only apps?
[06:14] <e_machinist> seicherlbob: go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:14] <phreak97> i really want to be using ubuntu as my primary, but i just got a wifi dongle for my ds, and its windows only
[06:14] <e_machinist> Follow those instructions.
[06:14] <tareque> hi everyone
[06:14] <kameron> ish: mmm. not sure. haven't tried it? they include binaries for almost every package that is for 32bit.
[06:15] <ish> well, definetly worth trying I guess.
[06:15] <kameron> yep
[06:15] <gnomefreak> ish,  if im not mistaken you can run 32bit apps on a 64bit kernel
[06:15] <kameron> what binary do you want o try?
[06:16] <tareque> i have got 4 computer .  and i want to have central login for those machines...how do i do it?
[06:16] <kameron> tareque: what do you mean by "central login" ?
[06:16] <phreak97> ugh
[06:17] <gnomefreak> like log-in to all of them from one log in screen?
[06:17] <phreak97> is a network bridge hard to set up under ubuntu?
[06:17] <kameron> log in to every computer from one screen?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> wants them to sync their password lists and user homes to be one palce reguargless of which pc the user logs into?
[06:18] <phreak97> i have two network cards in my pc, ill build a server for nintendo wifi if its the only way
[06:18] <tareque> i mean to have program or something with which i can manage the login information in one machine and people will be able to access it any other machines
[06:18] <Manifold> Guys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today..
[06:18] <Durban> does anyone know a good program for making iso files, i have all the files of a disk in a folder,and i need to make a cd of them
[06:19] <kameron> durban: there's a program right in the kernel to do that
[06:19] <tareque> kameron: i mean to have program or something with which i can manage the login information in one machine and people will be able to access it any other machines
[06:19] <gnomefreak> !iso
[06:19] <ubotu> it has been said that iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:19] <Manifold> !alsamixer
[06:20] <ubotu> Manifold: Are you smoking crack?
[06:20] <Manifold> !alsa
[06:20] <ubotu> methinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[06:20] <Durban> kameron: whats it called,or how do i access it?
[06:21] <thegladiator> is memtest an infinte loop?
[06:21] <Ng> yes
[06:21] <tareque> kameron : to be more specific i mean a server where all the login information will be managed
[06:21] <thegladiator> is there any way I can see the log fro the desktop ?
[06:21] <kameron> durban: i'm looking it up for you. it's something like mkisofs -9660 or something.
[06:21] <thegladiator> my memtest didnt go perfect
[06:21] <Manifold> Guys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today..
[06:21] <madewokherd> I don't thyink memtest writes anything
[06:22] <madewokherd> to anywhere
[06:22] <Durban> kameron: ok, that will be great
[06:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: that's a bad sign
[06:22] <thegladiator> when memtest is doen are we expected to get a clean result ?
[06:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: yes
[06:22] <thegladiator> like it was doing test over and over ...
[06:23] <thegladiator> so I thought in the previous parsing , ti could have found an error
[06:23] <madewokherd> when it's done, it starts again from test 1
[06:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: Not necessarily.
[06:23] <thegladiator> which didnt come up next time .... something like that
[06:23] <tareque> kameron: are you clear ? now?
[06:23] <thegladiator> ah
[06:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: It just randomly picks write patterns until you stop it.
[06:23] <kameron> Durban: mkisofs -J -R -o filename.iso /some/directory
[06:23] <vbgunz> Damn... I really dislike when an email client (Evolution) does not allow changing the from address on the fly... that stinks :P
[06:23] <madewokherd> I wonder if we're talking about the same thing..
[06:23] <thegladiator> so when you do a memtest86 you get no results dow in the bottom ?
[06:23] <thegladiator> clean ?
[06:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: yes
[06:23] <kameron> tareque: umm, let me read up
[06:23] <madewokherd> I do
[06:24] <Stork> why can't my rythmbox play .m3u files?
[06:24] <Durban> kameron: ty
[06:24] <thegladiator> my memory is just a year old
[06:24] <gnomefreak> vbgunz, thunderbird has less problems that evolution :)
[06:24] <thegladiator> mercury i guess . its get bad this fast . thats bad sign
[06:24] <Stork> s/that/then
[06:24] <thegladiator> 256 DDR
[06:24] <Stork> o rly?
[06:24] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, is the memory mixed?
[06:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: Try for warranty-replacement?
[06:25] <kameron> tareque: not really?
[06:25] <tareque> kameron : its like .. computer labs in university or school where one computer has all the info and everyone else can access it with after login in..
[06:25] <symtab> why is the default evince configured not to show in menu?
[06:25] <thegladiator> mixed ? it has video memory also
[06:25] <kameron> tareque, so like... yeah. gotcha. a samba file sever?
[06:25] <thegladiator> afaik
[06:25] <thegladiator> do they replace mem alone , i dont know
[06:25] <seicherlbob> e_machinist: ok, restarting. lets see if this helps. Thx so far
[06:25] <vbgunz> gnomefreak: I prefer Thunderbird...
[06:25] <thegladiator> i have to ask the dealers about that
[06:25] <gnomefreak> symtab, can you enable the menu item for it in smeg?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> me too vbgunz :)
[06:26] <reiki_work> I know this will have to go to off-topic, but does anyone here have experience connecting linux to a WANG VS system?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, i meant like if you have 2 mem sticks are they both the same kind
[06:26] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, i wonder if you remember the discussionwe had on my mem , seems like firefox , amarok etc shuut down randmnly due to this
[06:26] <Stork> why can't my rythmbox play .m3u files?
[06:26] <symtab> gnomefreak, didnt check, but i'm sure i can (or edit the desktop file directlty)
[06:26] <kameron> !tell tareque about samba
[06:26] <thegladiator> its a single 256   DDR
[06:26] <thegladiator> not add on type of
[06:27] <Jowi> Stork: can it play normal mp3 for you?
[06:27] <symtab> i was curios why it doesnt show in the menu with a default ubuntu install
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  i was thinking a .m3u was a playlist. ? or am i confused.
[06:27] <Stork> Jowi, i'll check
[06:27] <Stork> Dr_Willis, yes, it is
[06:27] <tareque> kameron: i do not mean a file server but like something like Active Directory in windows...!
[06:27] <thegladiator> but amazingly KDE deals with memory segfaults better than gnome does
[06:27] <gnomefreak> symtab,  just use menu editor and put a check mark in box if its in htere and i think it is but cant remember
[06:27] <pusling> is there a way to get tomcat running on hoary using package manager to install it ?  or should I rebuild debian stuff myself ?
[06:27] <thegladiator> i have had almost zero seg faults under KDE
[06:28] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, my box will beep at me if the mem is bad lol
[06:28] <thegladiator> lol , is that cinfigured that way ?
[06:28] <thegladiator> mayb i shud give a try to set something...like that and see
[06:28] <nekohayo> anyone knows how the "connect to server" item in the "places" menu is called? which application can I file bugs on?
[06:28] <kameron> tareque: i don't know what active directory is
[06:28] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, its the bios it runs mem test before boot
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Stork,  could be they just decided it was not a very needed feature. or it may be reading them and converting them to its own playlist-listing
[06:29] <thegladiator> i see
[06:29] <tareque> kameron :  i do not know much about linux since i am new at it but i need to know this stuff to get some task done
[06:29] <titanium_platypu> how come my clock synchronization service keeps getting unchecked all the time?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> i dont know if this box does it my other one does though
[06:29] <Jowi> Stork, Dr_Willis, i was under the impression, or guessed, that gsteamer0.8-mad handled both the mp3 and the m3u part. maybe i'm mistaken
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Jowi, i think you are right
[06:30] <Stork> i think so, i just installed that
[06:30] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[06:30] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:30] <cello_rasp> hi, what do people use for wireless network browsing? i ask because kismet doesnt seem to work too well
[06:30] <gnomefreak> that will tell you if thats all you need is msd
[06:30] <gnomefreak> mad
[06:30] <Jowi> Stork: I'm only aware that xmms can handle m3u. haven't tried with rhythmbox
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Jowi,  m3u is just a text file as far as i know.. of songs.. nothing fancy to it.
[06:30] <chris_> I'm having a problem with my gfx card
[06:30] <Stork> awesome, i'll get that then :p
[06:30] <chris_> it's a software problem
[06:31] <thegladiator> which card chris_ ?
[06:31] <thegladiator> state the name of the card
[06:31] <gnomefreak> gfx=nvidia or ati?
[06:31] <chris_> ati radeon 9200
[06:31] <Jowi> Stork: if rhythmbox plays mp3 fine then I guess it is just not supporting the m3u's :)
[06:31] <Stork> okay :)
[06:31] <Jowi> Dr_Willis: that's what i thought as well
[06:31] <JoeBlow> ok, when somoene has time, I installed loki installer, and the quake 2 demo, but when it run the quake 2 demo, the window opens real fast and then closes
[06:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chris_ about ati
[06:31] <chris_> i previously had x86-64 linux installed and it worked then
[06:32] <kameron> tareque: i'm still not sure what you want to accomplish.
[06:33] <gnomefreak> atleast that is what i got out of it
[06:33] <computinchuck> hi, i'm trying to compile gtkpod with aac support under 5.10 and i have all the dev packages installed, but the configure script says it can't find mp4.h when its in /usr/include
[06:33] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, whats ur bw ?
[06:34] <gnomefreak> bw?
[06:34] <thegladiator> bandwidth i mean
[06:34] <gnomefreak> not sure since i moved :((
[06:35] <yanis> isnt supposed when I install Xwindows the system start in Xwindows and not in console?
[06:36] <gnomefreak> yanis, on a server install i dont think so i think you have to make gdm default
[06:36] <earalph> i am new to ubuntu
[06:36] <earalph> and need some help
[06:36] <gnomefreak> or kdm or whatever
[06:36] <deFrysk> !help
[06:37] <benplaut> anyone know how to disable tab-to-click on a synaptic touchpad?
[06:37] <yanis> gnomefreak: I have xdm
[06:37] <thegladiator> earalph, ask , this is the place for it
[06:37] <rance> earalph, ask your question, if someone knows, they will answer
[06:37] <sternerson> Issue: Wireless PCMCIA adapter, pcmcia bus lists in device manager, driver installed via ndiswrapper. No LED activity on card. Any hints?
[06:37] <cameron> anyone know the command to remove a symbolic link?
[06:37] <Jowi> yanis: see if xdm is in /etc/rc2.d
[06:38] <gnomefreak> yanis,  than you would need to make that default but sisnce you did server install i dont know how to set that up
[06:38] <ubuntu_> could anyone tell me how to setup a secure terminal services session using SSH from one ubuntu box to another, 5.10 btw
[06:38] <Manifold> Guys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today.. Ideas?
[06:38] <earalph> i am wondering what the sys req on ubuntu is - i have a couple of "OLD" pcs that i want to turn into a small scale private http server and mysql server
[06:38] <Stork> how do i configure xmms to be my default music player?
[06:38] <sternerson> earalph, define old
[06:38] <yanis> Jowi: yet it is! AND when the pc boots it seems to try to start xwindows but I think it fails
[06:38] <Ng> Stork: right click on an mp3 and choose Properties, there's a tab you can use to set the default handler for that file type
[06:39] <earalph> pentium 250 - 500mHz 64mb RAM
[06:39] <Stork> Ng, ok, thanks
[06:39] <yanis> so the problem is at xdm...
[06:39] <Jowi> yanis: i *think* you cd /etc/init.c and run "sudo update-rc.d xdm defaults"
[06:39] <Stork> earalph, i have you beat - i have a pentium 1 with 32mb ram and a 400mb hdd
[06:39] <Manifold> Guys, my sound card supports 4 channel mode, but alsamixer won't let me turn it on. I've done it before, but it doesn't want to let me today.. Ideas?
[06:39] <Jowi> yanis: did you configure X after you installed it?
[06:39] <sternerson> earalph, hmm. Runing on a Celeron 800 with 128mb ram without issues. If you only want to run terminal and not use too much graphics, there shouldn't be any problems!
[06:39] <godzzo> Hi!
[06:39] <Jowi> yanis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:40] <yanis> Jowi: yes yes yes!!!
[06:40] <techone>     ok so I go to places and select Home or Computer and then I get a little clock and note on the bottom bar that says Starting Home or Starting Computer and then in about 30 secs both disappear without further complaint and then nothing
[06:40] <rance> I love putting old comptuers like that to work, linux is a dream just dont install X and it will run on darn near anything
[06:40] <yanis> Jowi:  i did before
[06:40] <godzzo> How can I copy a damaged file from DVD (only want to ignore the bad blocks...) ?
[06:40] <earalph> i just want it to sit there and server some php pages backend with mysql
[06:40] <techone> what can cause this kind of problem
[06:40] <Jowi> yanis: try to run "sudo xdm" from the console and check the errors
[06:40] <earalph> at most 5 hits per min
[06:40] <rance> earalph, that will work
[06:40] <Ng> techone: try running "nautilus" from a terminal
[06:40] <Ng> techone: see if it spits out any errors
[06:40] <earalph> ok thank you
[06:40] <sternerson> earalph, no problem
[06:40] <paladinewz> could anyone tell me how to setup a secure terminal services session using SSH from one ubuntu box to another, 5.10 btw
[06:41] <seicherlbob> shouldn't "mount -a" be run at startup?
[06:41] <Stork> noooo
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> paladinew,  you mean other then just 'ssh remotebox' ?
[06:41] <techone> (nautilus:29190): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[06:41] <techone>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[06:42] <techone> I had a problem like that yesterday with firefox
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> paladinew,  theres dozens of ssh howto/document/tutorial sites out that show all sorts of neat ssh tricks.
[06:42] <Stork> i have some shortcut keys on my keyboard (such as stop, pause, play, forward, backward -- for music) how can i configure them to work?
[06:42] <kameron> reboot, bbl
[06:42] <thegladiator> techone, a build essential problem ?
[06:42] <Ng> paladinewz: "ssh -L12345:localhost:5900 some.computer.com" will make port 12345 on your local machine connect to port 5900 (the default port used by gnome's desktop sharing service) on the remote machine, via the tunnel, so then you'd just point a vnc viewer to localhost port 12345
[06:42] <Jowi> !info hotkeys
[06:42] <ubotu> hotkeys: (A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.5.7.3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 141 kB, Installed size: 380 kB
[06:42] <yanis> Jowi: where will I find the error logs of xdm??
[06:43] <Stork> Ng, what's a desktop sharing service?
[06:43] <techone> thegladiator, as in essentially i have a build problem or are you asking if I had any problems during build?
[06:43] <seicherlbob> CU guys and thx again for your help!
[06:44] <Jowi> yanis: the errors should show in the terminal you run xdm from. otherwise /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:44] <Ng> Stork: you can configure the desktop so you can control it from a remote PC
[06:44] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[06:44] <yanis> Jowi: they arent in the terminal I will check xorg
[06:44] <Ng> Stork: System->Preferences->Remote desktop
[06:44] <Jowi> yanis: /var/log/xdm.log as well
[06:44] <Stork> Ng, oic
[06:44] <madewokherd> I have a .desktop file that I want to add to my gnome menu
[06:44] <madewokherd> is there an easy way to do this?
[06:45] <rance> has anyone setup ubuntu on a deadhead box (no monitor, mouse, keyboard) to allow X connections from a computer that does have those things
[06:45] <darkritual> any one knows howto install java on ubuntu?
[06:45] <Jowi> !tell darkritual about java
[06:45] <selinium> ubotu tell darkritual about java
[06:46] <vbgunz> anybody having problems updating there mozilla extensions? I've been trying for so long to update my extensions and I am always stuck with the previous version? What in the world could be happening? This is really beginning to get annoying... Anybody have any ideas? Anyone else experiencing this?
[06:46] <yanis> Jowi: there is no %/xdm.log. moreover theresint even the word xdm in the Xorg.log!!
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sweeeeeeet
[06:47] <selinium> ping ajmitch.....
[06:47] <Ng> xdm wouldn't log to X's log anyway
[06:47] <Ng> try syslog
[06:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I just set the login manager to play Gandalf's "You shall not pass!" whenever someone puts in a bad password. :D
[06:47] <sternerson> Anyone with any PCMCIA knowledge?
[06:47] <ubuntu_> qualcuno parla italiano?
[06:47] <techone> shite I go to the ubuntu.com site and some how the search button is not active
[06:47] <selinium> !it
[06:47] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:47] <ubuntu_> ok grazie
[06:48] <brime> can anyone help me with usb?
[06:48] <brime> getting err " unknown filesystem type 'usbdevfs'
[06:48] <brime>  "
[06:48] <_theo> has anyone here succesfully compiled a 2.6.15 kernel??
[06:49] <Jowi> yanis: that's a bit wierd.
[06:49] <techone> how can I fix this completely  "Locale not supported by C library." do I need to reinstall C libraries or a complete reinstall with format
[06:49] <Jowi> yanis: did you install xdm or xdmx ?
[06:49] <Seveas> techone, neither
[06:49] <yanis> Jowi: xdm..
[06:50] <yanis> Jowi: I did it by hand though. it didnt come wint xorg
[06:50] <Seveas> techone, just make sure your locale is correct (play around with system -> admin -> language selector)
[06:50] <Manifold> Guys, I can enable four channel support in the GNOME volume control, but not the alsamixer (using the terminal), what's up with that?
[06:50] <Jowi> yanis: did Xorg.0.log show any errors?
[06:50] <techone> really
[06:50] <Jowi> yanis: yeah, you installed it with apt-get ?
[06:50] <techone> well I'll take a look
[06:51] <Seveas> techone, if it does not work: put the output of locale -a and locale on the pastebin
[06:51] <yanis> yes Jowi
[06:51] <Mabus06> how come rhythmbox keeps skipping through files instead of playing them? my codecs are installed, other media players can play the same files...
[06:51] <rich_njit> hello all, I am looking for a tutorial on setting up ubuntu on a mirrored ide setup, using 2 drives with lvm, googled for tutorials but still having trouble
[06:51] <techone> k
[06:51] <yanis> Jowi: I thought it was comming with xorg...like xterm for examle...
[06:51] <yanis> Jowi: xterm didnt come too
[06:51] <Jowi> yanis: then it should work automaticly. i've installed it like that without probs. but after i did i always run dpkg-reconfigure. no xterm is its own package
[06:52] <Jowi> yanis: maybe you forgot to install some xserver components
[06:52] <wontez> hello Im trying to get my dvd player to play dvd's and I'm having all kinds of problems any ideas I already installed the css library
[06:52] <techone> so default language is english canada and none of the languages above are selected even english is not selected
[06:53] <alexissoft> hi
[06:53] <techone> crap nautilus did not exit from the terminal - just sitting in the terminal but no gui
[06:53] <Jowi> yanis: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[06:53] <techone> ctrl-c
[06:54] <lowman62> wontez: try mplayer along with the w32codecs
[06:54] <sovvy2009> hello all
[06:55] <Jowi> hello sovvy2009
[06:55] <Manifold> Guys, I can enable four channel support in the GNOME volume control, but not the alsamixer (using the terminal), what's up with that?
[06:55] <sovvy2009> lol
[06:55] <cameron> anyone know why ndiswrapper wouldnt read the sources I installed?  I provided the link to em and everything, and it just wont work
[06:55] <Storkme> wierd
[06:55] <Storkme> my vncviewer just stopped accepting the remote clients keyboard types
[06:55] <Storkme> and also, how do i exit out of a vncviewer session
[06:55] <kemik> quick question; can linux with its crappy driversupport use TV-out *and* Dual monitors ?
[06:55] <C-O-L-T> I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format
[06:55] <Jowi> Storkme: F8 -> quit
[06:55] <Storkme> nvm done the exit
[06:55] <lowman62> lol sovvy2009 there are a few I would love to b!tch slap with a large trout LOL :P
[06:55] <C-O-L-T>  I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format
[06:56] <sovvy2009> lol lowman62
[06:56] <C-O-L-T>  I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format
[06:56] <Storkme> woo
[06:56] <Storkme> i'm on vncviewer
[06:56] <Storkme> connecting to the pc right next to me
[06:56] <techone> maybe there is some hd corruption http://pastebin.ca/35876
[06:56] <Storkme> that's how lazy i am
[06:56] <C-O-L-T>  I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format
[06:57] <wontez> lowman62, where are the w32codecs?
[06:57] <lowman62> sovvy2009: :O a windows computer...hurry install ubuntu and use a trout for the desktop background :P
[06:57] <C-O-L-T>  I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format
[06:57] <sovvy2009> lol
[06:58] <JoeBlow> ok, when somoene has time, I installed loki installer, and the quake 2 demo, but when it run the quake 2 demo, the window opens real fast and then closes
[06:58] <techone> hmmm maybe I can use fschk to do some kind of surface test on the hard drive
[06:58] <lowman62> wontez: I know they are available with apt-get or synaptic but I personally got mine from the mplayer web site
[06:58] <C-O-L-T>  I need a program that with it I can make slideshows of my pitures with music in video format
[06:58] <lowman62> wontez: what the file is called through synaptic I am not sure
[06:58] <techone> Seveas, did you get to see my pastebin ?  http://pastebin.ca/35876
[06:59] <brime> can anyone tell me why I dont have anything in my /proc/bus/usb dir?
[06:59] <arthuru> bonjour
[06:59] <arthuru> j'ai un gros problme
[06:59] <wontez> lowman62, I just searched syn with w32 and didnt see them
[06:59] <lowman62> does anyone know the name of the w32codecs file using synaptic or apt-get?
[06:59] <arthuru> j'aurais besoin d'aide
[06:59] <D-rock> Colt: http://dvd-slideshow.sourceforge.net
[06:59] <arthuru> oooooooops
[06:59] <arthuru> i'm going to join ubuntu-fr, sorry
[06:59] <sternerson> Anyone with any PCMCIA knowledge?
[06:59] <lowman62> wontez: try it like this *w32* and see that helps
[07:00] <wontez> lowman62, still nothing
[07:00] <Manifold> Guys, I can enable four channel support in the GNOME volume control, but not the alsamixer (using the terminal), what's up with that?
[07:00] <D-rock> Has anyone else had problems with the e100 driver?
[07:01] <lowman62> wontez: here let me try and see if I can find it for you...would it bother you to install them manually? cuz I can get you the link for it from mplayer web site
[07:01] <wontez> lowman62, I suck at manual install
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> !w32codec
[07:01] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:01] <wontez> lowman62, last time I tried I gave up and re formatted lol
[07:01] <JoeBlow> can anyone help me with loki installer
[07:02] <D-rock> For anyone who was on earlier, I've run 3 clean passes of memtest86 and I've rebooted into recovery mode
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  you said the game isntalled but dident run eh?
[07:02] <lowman62> wontez: all it is ..is making a folder and puting an untar package in it..no biggy but hold on i will see if i can find it for you
[07:02] <D-rock> I rmmoded the e100 driver and the laptop seems to be fine now
[07:02] <darkritual> problem: darkritual@DarkRitual:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin bash: fakeroot: command not found
[07:02] <dsonc> hello you all! I send this one to garnome yet, but nobody answer me,  so i hope anoyone can help me: try to install garnome 2.13.4 on my ubuntu 5.10, but when compiling libtool~ the process stopped: "cannot creat exectable files".
[07:02] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: the window for the game opens real fast then closes, if i click it a few times it opens and freezes without diplaying anything in the window, and the only way to close it is restart
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> dsonc,  you need the gcc compiler and stuff installed - yave you installed 'build-essentials' yet?
[07:03] <jesper> how do i make ubuntu use the PS/2 mouse instead of the mouse on my laptop?
[07:03] <D-rock> I'm going to back up my home partition and try badblocks on the hard disk now, but it seems to be much happier without the e100 module loaded :(
[07:03] <Kindred> darkritual, apt-get install fakeroot
[07:03] <stoneage> binutils!
[07:03] <madgik85> wontez if u want w32 codecs you can find out an easy install here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:03] <D-rock> jesper: it should use both
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  rember this trick.. "run the thing from a shell terminal and watch the eror messages' dont just click :P
[07:03] <jesper> D-rock: can't use the ps2
[07:03] <Paradoxx> hmm, what do you all think about linus's statements about gnome vs kde??
[07:03] <darkritual> thnx Kindred
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  most likely its some sound or video issue.
[07:04] <dsonc> gcc package is installed yet, i have to verify build-essentials, il try it! thanks
[07:04] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: so sh quake2.exe?
[07:04] <D-rock> Hmmm, I haven't used an external PS/2 mouse in a while, just usb
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  quake2.exe ? where did ya get a .exe from?
[07:04] <idefix_> why are there so many files in the dev directory?
[07:04] <techone> i would have to agree with Linus that a fear based approached to development is simply the wrong way to go
[07:04] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: oops, sorry
[07:04] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: no exe
[07:04] <idefix_> can you mount all those devices?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  a file for every device :P
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  could just try ./quake2
[07:05] <techone> afraid of scaring the end user is wrong
[07:05] <D-rock> jesper: just to be sure, you've verified the mouse on another machine, right? :)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  not every device has a file system that is mountable.
[07:05] <lowman62> wontez: here ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:05] <Paradoxx> techone: how does gnome go about doing this, i have never noticed?
[07:05] <idefix_> Dr_Willis, do you get payed to answer people here?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  how you going to mount say yur USB mouse. :P
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  i just hang out.
[07:05] <meborc> is there a special chat-room for DAPPER users?
[07:05] <techone> but ont the flip side one should use what works best from them
[07:05] <Paradoxx> techone: and i consider myself a 'poweruser' if one exsists..
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> it keeps me out of trouble.
[07:05] <bipolar> does anyone know if the latest kernel in dapper fixes the fglrx driver crash?
[07:05] <idefix_> but there are hundreds of files in the dev directory
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  correct.. proberly 1000+ of them
[07:06] <bipolar> meborc: I don't know of one.
[07:06] <lowman62> wontez: here is a tutorial on it as well http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#video
[07:06] <techone> Paradoxx, unless you are involved in some gnome development with the gnome developers you would not have access to their development descisions
[07:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> idefix_: A lot of them are virtual devices.
[07:06] <D-rock> idefix_: it creates files for CLASSES of devices, not just physically present devices
[07:06] <D-rock> So, for instance, I have a ton of /dev/hd* device files, for every IDE disk and parition, even though I only really have hda and hdb
[07:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> idefix_: ie, ttyp4 is a virtual terminal... it may not exist physically, or even be in use, but it's there
[07:07] <meborc> bipolar: thanks... it seems from the forums, that the latest kernel adresses the fglrx problem, but is still unstable
[07:07] <Paradoxx> techone: i c....but then how does that limit functionality?
[07:07] <techone> end users are not supposed to notice such things
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> i just have /dev/hd* for the hd's i got.
[07:07] <luk3>  hey does anyone knows where can i download some nice documentation about ubuntu?
[07:07] <D-rock> idefix: especially terminals. You'll have tons of pty files, although usually they get put into a subdir
[07:07] <JDahl> what's the difference between kubuntu dapper and regular ubuntu dapper with kubuntu-desktop installed?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> luk3,  ubuntu homepage?
[07:07] <luk3> yup but
[07:07] <khermans> Is python installed on Breezy by default?
[07:07] <darkritual> darkritual@DarkRitual:~/Desktop$ fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[07:07] <darkritual> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[07:08] <D-rock> Dr_Willis: sorry, with Ubuntu it uses udev, so it should only show drives you have
[07:08] <techone> because gnome hesitates to add features if deemed potentially to scary for the non-techie user
[07:08] <JDahl> khermans, yes, it's used for lots of system tools
[07:08] <bipolar> meborc: cool. then I'm going to reboot and try it out :)
[07:08] <luk3> i mean the whole thing altogether
[07:08] <D-rock> I was thinking older distros
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> D-rock,  :P
[07:08] <luk3> like in one single manual
[07:08] <Paradoxx> techone: features like what?
[07:08] <lowman62> khermans type python at the console Ctrl-D to get out
[07:08] <Paradoxx> techone: if you don't mind me askin
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> luk3,  considering most of the docs are in a wiki format.. it changes daily
[07:08] <idefix_> so, it is possible to run a remote terminal with linux
[07:08] <luk3> sure
[07:08] <meborc> bipolar: good luck... although i don't know if it fixes u'r prob
[07:08] <D-rock> idefix: yup
[07:08] <idefix_> luk3, someone can operate my PC?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  what do you mean by 'remote terminal'
[07:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> idefix_: If you let them, yes.
[07:09] <khermans> JDahl, i was just wondering because I want to create a tool for beginners -- can they just click on the file and .py files are associated with python by default?
[07:09] <luk3> haha funny!
[07:09] <khermans> i dont have a clean system to test
[07:09] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis, /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2: /usr/local/games/quake2/quake2: cannot execute binary file
[07:09] <techone> im not explicitly a developer nor a fan of desktops , I play around more with servers and terminal windows but
[07:09] <idefix_> if I don't let them they'll just hack my PC
[07:09] <luk3> jerk!
[07:09] <D-rock> idefix: not usually, unless you've disabled your firewall
[07:09] <lowman62> khermans: you still have to give them executable permissions
[07:09] <D-rock> and ignore update messages
[07:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> idefix_: Good luck to them... it's harder than you think :)
[07:09] <khermans> so, if i put a .py file on my website, and a user downloads it on a new install of Breezy, double-clicking the file will run it without a user prompt?
[07:09] <JDahl> khermans, almost - put "#!python " in the top of your python script
[07:10] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis, any ideas?
[07:10] <D-rock> khermans: or better yet, "#!/usr/bin/env python"
[07:10] <khermans> JDahl, oh sure -- i do that anyways
[07:10] <bipolar> #beam me up
[07:10] <dsonc> DR_Willis, you are the man!  Thansks for help me and regards from Brazil!
[07:10] <lowman62> Khermans: what D-rock just said is correct
[07:10] <bipolar> err... I need focus follows brain....
[07:10] <rahuller> is there any package recover of rar archive passwords?
[07:11] <luk3> who else is from brazil?
[07:11] <techone> so I did not track specific gnome issues or complaints but if a better/cleaner/tighter program comes along, gnome will not consider it for a long time because of the policy to minimize change to end users
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  may want to see if theres a Q2 wiki page - Q2 is quite old - and there may be a lot of little issues
[07:11] <rahuller> is there any package for recovery of rar archive passwords?
[07:11] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: I use sh to run it right?
[07:11] <luk3> dsonc?
[07:11] <techone> say for instance a better firewall manager
[07:11] <khermans> rahuller, you can use an exploit to get the data if you want
[07:11] <Stork> mm, beer
[07:11] <Jowi> JoeBlow: You got the original Q2 ?
[07:12] <khermans> rahuller, i think there is a way to unencrypt the data without the password
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  perhaps.. it all depends..  look at the file and see if its a bash shell.
[07:12] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: no, this i just the demo
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  perhaps.. it all depends..  look at the file and see if its a bash shell script
[07:12] <lowman62> beer??? errr am thirsty now
[07:12] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: it says its a binary file
[07:12] <luk3> wuz up idefix_
[07:12] <luk3> what are ya doin??
[07:12] <techone> Paradoxx, pros and cons to everything, many people are annoyed when they have to learning something different or new
[07:12] <rahuller> khermans, do u know how its done? i have my documents backed up in it :(
[07:12] <dsonc> yes luk3.. i chatting from Sao Paulo/Brazil.
[07:13] <luk3> nice!
[07:13] <luk3> i am at goias right now!
[07:13] <Paradoxx> techone: kk, ty much m8
[07:13] <idefix_> luk3, well, linux is supposed to be the future, so I'm trying to work with it
[07:13] <techone> Paradoxx, and now I hear gnome has been working on a new graphics engine, but I expect it would be under the hood as opposed to a notable gui change
[07:13] <luk3> how long have ya been running ubuntu ?
[07:13] <Terrasque> anyone have a place I can host a .deb?
[07:13] <Jowi> JoeBlow: I installed the quake2 from the repos, then the original Q2. then copied the files to the .quake2/baseq2 dir. that's it.
[07:13] <luk3> you betcha!
[07:14] <idefix_> maybe two months
[07:14] <darkritual> @Jowi srry to pm you but how can i use the bot to find things out for my own :)
[07:14] <techone> Seveas, did you get to see my pastebin ?  http://pastebin.ca/35876
[07:14] <dsonc> luk3, falou meu velho, um abrao
[07:14] <JoeBlow> Jowi: I used loki and installed the demo, it installed, but when I click quake 2, it freezes instantly, so im trying to run it in shell, but i dunno how
[07:14] <luk3> outro!
[07:14] <luk3> ate +!
[07:14] <Jowi> JoeBlow: i never used the loki installer
[07:14] <Paradoxx> techone: kk m8
[07:14] <Jowi> !info quake2
[07:14] <ubotu> quake2: (improved version of id Software's Quake II engine), section multiverse/games, is optional. Version: 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1240 kB, Installed size: 3144 kB
[07:15] <JoeBlow> Jowi: then how do you do it?
[07:15] <Seveas> techone, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[07:15] <Seveas> techone, and make sure en_CA.UTF-8 is selected
[07:15] <Jowi> JoeBlow: i just told you how. with the original game that is
[07:15] <lowman62> well dvd time woop woop..cya'all laterz woop woop
[07:15] <luk3> idefix_ where are you from?
[07:15] <JoeBlow> Jowi, I have the orginal cd, how do i run the setup?
[07:15] <madgik85> If any one can help, I am using Rhythmbox to play mp3 files but when I try it give an error "Could Not Open Resource For Writing". The music plays fine if I use Totem though. Any Help would be appriciated?
[07:15] <balster_neb> Hi, does anyone know where i can find alsaconf on ubuntu?
[07:16] <techone> Seveas, im concerned that this is an indication of larger issues like data corruption perhaps during a crash or hang or power reset or bad drive
[07:16] <jahshua--> hey i just downloaded a movie with bittorrent and its like 93 individual .rar files .. how do i put them all together to make it one ... movie
[07:16] <idefix_> the Netherlands
[07:16] <jahshua--> heh
[07:16] <Jowi> JoeBlow: you need to extract the baseq2 data from the cd by installing the game. you can use wine to install.
[07:16] <luk3> do you consider yourself a hacker?
[07:16] <idefix_> and you?
[07:16] <idefix_> no way!
[07:16] <luk3> brazil!
[07:16] <idefix_> I would like to be one though
[07:16] <julio> Hi
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua--: LOL
[07:16] <Seveas> techone, doesn't look like it
[07:16] <idefix_> can you teach me?
[07:16] <idefix_> I think hacking is a teamsport
[07:16] <julio> who can help-me isntalling one DEBIAN PACKAGE?
[07:16] <jahshua--> pumpernickle :p
[07:16] <Seveas> idefix_, -ETOPIC - somewhere else please
[07:16] <JoeBlow> Jowi: thanks for the help, but i have no luck with wine bro, already tried it
[07:16] <luk3> do ya?
[07:16] <Seveas> !tell julio about deb
[07:17] <Jowi> JoeBlow: oh
[07:17] <luk3> what OS are you running?
[07:17] <JoeBlow> Jowi: I put setup.exe in the add programs, and then when i did wine setup.exe it wouldnt find it
[07:17] <julio> Seveas
[07:17] <luk3> ubuntu?
[07:17] <Stork> for the love of god someone help me natively install quake4
[07:17] <julio> I do what the Ubotu said
[07:17] <techone> so  en_CA.UTF-8 is already selected but I suppose this will regenerate the files
[07:17] <Seveas> techone, yes
[07:17] <Jowi> JoeBlow: you should just "wine /media/cdrom/setup.exe"
[07:18] <julio> but dont function... the sudo says of the archive dont exist.. but it exist!
[07:18] <Seveas> if it does not, then there's something wrong
[07:18] <JoeBlow> Jowi, let me try real fast
[07:18] <Kindred> wow you haven't given up on quake yet..
[07:18] <jahshua--> pumpernickle help me out :)
[07:18] <Seveas> julio, did you type the complete path?
[07:18] <Davey> didn't they release linux binaries for Quake2? :)
[07:18] <julio> wait a moment.. i will send you the error
[07:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua--: gfslicer, maybe?
[07:19] <JDahl> Can parted also shrink ext3 partitions? I want to play around with dapper without nuking my breezy installation
[07:19] <Jowi> JoeBlow: http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Quake-HOWTO-3.html (read the installing from cd part)
[07:19] <balster_neb> Hi, I wasn't able to find any alsaconf installed in my ubuntu system
[07:20] <idefix_> but Seveas... topic can change slightly over time, can't they?
[07:20] <balster_neb> Anyone know how I can get it?
[07:20] <julio> seveas.. se the error in the Pvt
[07:20] <shekhar> hello can someone help me with sound problems?
[07:20] <Seveas> idefix_, topic in here is Ubuntu support, nothing else preferably
[07:20] <idefix_> ok
[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> JDahl: I think so, but it can't resize mounted partitions.
[07:20] <julio> seveas,, see the error
[07:20] <Stork> can anyone help me natively install quake4?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112547
[07:20] <julio> julio@martinez:~$ sudo dpkg -i wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb
[07:20] <julio> dpkg: erro processando wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb (--install):
[07:20] <julio>  impossvel acessar arquivo: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado
[07:20] <julio> Erros foram encontrados durante processamento de:
[07:20] <julio>  wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb
[07:20] <techone> Seveas, ok so that seemed to work properly but nautilus still wont start from the link in Places but it ran from the terminal
[07:20] <Stork> julio, pastebin damnit
[07:21] <jahshua--> pumpernickle: i was told if i extract the first file it will all end up as one big video file but that doesnt sounds right ?
[07:21] <jahshua--> sound*
[07:21] <JDahl> PuMpErNiCkLe, cool, I would resize during the installation anyway
[07:21] <cyphase> what do you guys think about the idea of including ndis drivers for wireless cards in ubuntu?
[07:21] <Manifold> !gstreamer
[07:21] <ubotu> Manifold: Are you on ritalin?
[07:21] <Manifold> !gstream
[07:21] <ubotu> Manifold: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jahshua--: Try it and see - it can't damage it.
[07:21] <Stork> WOO FOR RITALIN
[07:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> GO RITALIN
[07:22] <balster_neb> Hehe, 666 people in the channel
[07:22] <balster_neb> ah, now 667
[07:22] <RedGhost> back to 666
[07:22] <RedGhost> :D
[07:22] <RedGhost> its a sign ;p
[07:22] <Paradoxx> idefix_: see pm i sent you
[07:22] <techone> yeah even after running nautilus from terminal it still wont start from Places
[07:22] <idefix_> Paradoxx, did you send me more than one?
[07:22] <shekhar> hello can someone help me setup a sound server?
[07:22] <balster_neb> Does anyone have any idea about alsaconf?
[07:23] <JoeBlow> Jowi, i put wine /home/brian/Desktop/Quake2/Setup.exe
[07:23] <JoeBlow>  , and it does nothing
[07:23] <idefix_> Paradoxx, I answered the first one
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> balster_neb,  check the alsa wiki pages yet?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> balster_neb,  or fire up synaptic and searc/install it.
[07:23] <Paradoxx> idefix_: i didn't get the reply
[07:23] <cyphase> i don't think having 50 drivers installed with ndiswrapper wuld cause a problem.. :P
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  you do realize theres a native port of Quake2 to linux. and you dont need to use the windows version.
[07:24] <cyphase> technical problem*
[07:24] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis: I gotta get this wine bussiness down for my other games
[07:24] <Jowi> JoeBlow: 1. "cd" 2. "mkdir .quake2" 3. "cd .quake2" 4. "cp -r /media/cdrom/Install/Data/* ." 5. "sudo apt-get install quake2" 6. "quake2"
[07:24] <AIV> after I run apt-get update
[07:24] <AIV> I see where it says get
[07:24] <AIV> does it both download and apply?
[07:24] <foampeace> ello
[07:24] <AIV> or just download?
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  ive basicially given up on wine/cedega and games.. its a big hassle.
[07:25] <Kindred> AIV, it just updates your sources
[07:25] <jahshua--> can someone tell me the command to unrar a folder full of .rar files  please ?
[07:25] <foampeace> might someone suggest a better more developed way to pppoe
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> AIV,  update - resyncs/updates the apt database.. 'upgrade' then
[07:25] <cameron> anyone good with source problems?
[07:25] <Kindred> AIV, to actually download you have to apt-get upgrade
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  try      unrar -e '*'               ( note the quotes '  )
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> jahshua--,  or use find and some extra options.
[07:26] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, I play WoW on ubuntu :) And as long as that works im happy
[07:26] <AIV> ok
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  that game BARELY works for me.. silly mouse issues.
[07:26] <symtab> is there any boot-configurion program available (gui)?
[07:26] <JoeBlow> Jowi: it worked!!! thanks
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  of course ive goten burnt out on WoW
[07:26] <cyphase> Can everyone give me model numbers of wifi cards that don't work under Ubuntu?
[07:26] <Storkme> how can i set up the shortkeys on my keyboard to work with XMMS ?
[07:26] <Kindred> symtab, bum
[07:27] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, it works with good framerates, no bugs, and even sound via alsa here :)
[07:27] <AIV> should all apps be closed when doing updates?
[07:27] <poimen> someone 8sing flyght
[07:27] <poimen> ???
[07:27] <Jowi> JoeBlow: that old quake2 is great. play it over and over again
[07:27] <cyphase> AIV, doesn't matter
[07:27] <symtab> Kindred, bum is the name of the program?
[07:27] <polpak> AIV, it doesnt' matter
[07:27] <idefix_> Paradoxx "I don't think so"
[07:27] <symtab> :)
[07:27] <foampeace> pppoe is working. But pppoe was hard to get working.
[07:27] <aj9g> who is the cheapest registrar for .com's?
[07:27] <symtab> i mean grub configuration gui
[07:27] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, I only started playing WoW half a year ago, so not burnt out yet.. :)
[07:27] <Kindred> symtab, unfortunately yes :P
[07:27] <symtab> not init scripts
[07:27] <Kindred> symtab, ah okay.
[07:28] <foampeace> aj9g: theres too many, shop around
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  I got on when it started.. I remember when  the AH's were Empty! :p
[07:28] <Paradoxx> idefix_: kk, m8
[07:28] <JoeBlow> Jowi: my favorite multiplayer game
[07:28] <cameron> Anyone here have any idea how a source could be installed and yet not configured?  Im really having trouble with this
[07:28] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, WOW! :D Impressive
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  and i was in the beta befor that.
[07:28] <aj9g> foampeace, who do you use?
[07:28] <albacker> I get this error when trying to ./configure glade : http://pastebin.com/492093 can someone help me ? please ?
[07:28] <foampeace> aj9g: domainsatcost.ca
[07:28] <idefix_> well, that's just prime, I scan some pictures and I cannot edit them because I'm not the owner
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  heh - its gotten to be the same old stuff sadly.
[07:29] <aj9g> thanks
[07:29] <Seveas> !tell albacker about compiling
[07:29] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis: anyway, I've made a deb of the patched wine if you're interested :)
[07:29] <polpak> albacker, why not just use apt?
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  i got Cedega :p
[07:29] <foampeace> aj9g: domainsatcost.com?
[07:29] <cameron> Anyone?
[07:29] <poimen> planet mirror is down?
[07:29] <albacker> polpak, i theres and old version of glade in the repos.
[07:29] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, cedega I gave up long time ago :)
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  i just reboot to windows  much less hassle.. I got linux on a biox in the back room as my Main Linux box heh heh
[07:30] <albacker> Seveas, can you help me to get the package i need?
[07:30] <idefix_> Dr-Willis, you are being extremely altruistic
[07:30] <foampeace> aj9g: its .ca
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  Games - are  somthing Im about to give up on ;)
[07:30] <symtab> i know there is a program called grubconf but it's not available in ubuntu
[07:30] <idefix_> just hang out here to help people with their problems for 0 $'s/hour
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  been playing City of Villians however.
[07:30] <AIV> I remember that a while back I tried to mess around with mandrake a little, and during install you had to create these different partitions, like /, var, home, etc
[07:30] <AIV> now
[07:30] <JoeBlow> Jowi: is it supposed to take ar eally l ong time to install?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  i also work 2nd shift..  :P so i will be gone soon.
[07:30] <cameron> Anyone here good with sources?
[07:30] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, wise choice giving up on games. WoW currently take too much of my time :(
[07:30] <AIV> by letting ubuntu autopartition
[07:30] <AIV> it just creates / and swap
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  too much time doing mundane things.
[07:31] <idefix_> I'm free tomorrow!! \o/
[07:31] <Seveas> albacker, the wikipage explains it
[07:31] <AIV> with etc usr and home etc being directories
[07:31] <JoeBlow> damn, installing with wine is slooooooowww
[07:31] <Jowi> JoeBlow: yeah, it is pretty big. several hundreds of megabyte
[07:31] <AIV> where can one study the purpose of these directories?
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  when ya spend 30+ min of your play sessions just  running around and twiddling at the AH and BANK.. ...
[07:31] <JoeBlow> Jowi: on windows it was near instant
[07:31] <AIV> like I want to know what the var directory is for
[07:31] <balster_neb> Dr_Willis: I haven't been able to find anything about alsaconf, and I can't find it on the repositories. I looked in main, restricted, universe and multiverse
[07:31] <AIV> etc etc
[07:31] <balster_neb> Is it suppose to be installed by default?
[07:31] <polpak> AIV, check out the filesystem heirarcy standard
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> balster_neb,  i hear people asking abouit it.. but ive never had to mess withit. sound worked fine for me from the start
[07:32] <definity> is there a program that is for konsole and is basic network tools
[07:32] <definity> ??
[07:32] <idefix_> Paradoxx, I'm not registered so my messages are blocked
[07:32] <polpak> AIV,  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/
[07:32] <Paradoxx> idefix_: oh ok, lol, y don't you register then :P
[07:32] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, I got it even better! on stormreaver we use 30+ minutes just getting the character lists! And 2 out of 3 times we even manage to go into the game before we disconnect
[07:33] <albacker> Seveas, ive downloaded most of those packages ! but i think i need a newer version or smth like that  "Package requirements (libxml-2.0 >= 2.4.1 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0) were not met."
[07:33] <balster_neb> Dr_Willis: Thanks, I'm still trying to get my sound working in Breezy :S
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  yep. the whole MMORPG scene is neeing to be shook up.
[07:33] <Seveas> albacker, libxml2.0-dev
[07:33] <balster_neb> I guess i'll ask in the forums
[07:33] <idefix_> is it expensive to register?
[07:33] <Seveas> albacker, libgtk2.0-dev
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  its $0
[07:33] <cameron> Anyone here who could help me with a sources problem?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> idefix_,  /msg nickserv help
[07:34] <kemik> cameron:  ask your real question instead
[07:34] <Terrasque> Dr_Willis, and I still pay blizz :( oh well.. At least I can use linux now :)
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Terrasque,  my brother plays my account more then i do
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> wedll bbl
[07:34] <cameron> I need to configure my source, as ive installed it, but apparently its not configured...
[07:34] <definity> is there any basic network tools for konsole
[07:34] <definity> i got some but there all GUI
[07:34] <julio> !tell juli about tar.gz
[07:35] <londonboi2k3> hi guys, I am looking to install dapper, todays daily build, which is downloading, but where can I find a changes list of the changes?
[07:35] <julio> !tell julio about cpkg
[07:35] <julio> Hey mans
[07:35] <julio> hey men
[07:35] <julio> how can i install
[07:35] <julio> one archive CPKG???
[07:36] <cameron> kemik any ideas?
[07:36] <kemik> cameron:  i dont quite follow.. trying to compile a program +
[07:36] <Seveas> cpkg?
[07:36] <Seveas> what's the filename?
[07:37] <julio> yes..
[07:37] <londonboi2k3> another question goes unanswered,
[07:37] <definity> is there any basic network tools for konsole
[07:37] <polpak> loll
[07:37] <yanis> is there any package that contains some important x apps  of xorg like xdm,xterm,xclock++ ???
[07:37] <Seveas> !tell julio about cedega
[07:37] <cameron> kemik: a program im installing requires that my linux source be installed...  I installed it using my package manager, but apparently it wasnt configured correctly as the program cannot see the source, even when I provide the path to it.
[07:37] <serge> sorry, I'm looking for an ubuntu french chanel... ?
[07:37] <Seveas> julio, ubotu sent you some hints
[07:37] <Seveas> !fr
[07:37] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:38] <serge> thanks
[07:38] <Lie-Algebra> Hi, I am using a different keyboard layout than qwerty, How can I tell grub to switch to it (azerty)? (I need it because of the grub password I have just set up..)
[07:38] <Jowi> serge, va a #ubuntu-fr
[07:38] <Jochen> Hey people! adept is broken on my system. Any way to repair it?
[07:38] <Seveas> !fr =~ s/et #/ou #/
[07:38] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[07:38] <kemik> cameron:  you apt-getted "linux-headers-($uname -r)"  ?
[07:38] <cameron> kemik: yep
[07:38] <julio> hey men... how can i install one archive TGZ?
[07:38] <julio> cedega_5.0.2-1.i386.p2p.tgz
[07:39] <zAo^> julio, you should get the .deb :$
[07:39] <zAo^> julio, you can by unpacking it (file-roller) and compiling it but...
[07:39] <kemik> cameron:  hmm.. not sure what todo then
[07:39] <julio> hm.. no no.. i will get the DEB
[07:39] <D-rock> Does anyone know what the best channel would be for discussing a possible kernel module bug?
[07:39] <Davey> D-rock, #kernel ?
[07:40] <D-rock> Duh
[07:40] <cameron> kemik: kk :(
[07:40] <fredy> trying to install kubuntu-desktop, but latest kamera depends on libgphoto 2.1.6-1ubuntu6-1 , but synaptic only recognizes libgphoto 2.1.6-1ubuntu6.  how can i get breezy to install latest version of libgphoto?
[07:40] <yanis> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:40] <cameron> Hmm... on seccond thought, I may have the wrong headers...
[07:40] <Seveas> yanis, that must have felt quite good...
[07:41] <Stork> orly?
[07:41] <DRK13> YA RLY
[07:41] <DRK13> lol
[07:41] <yanis> why isnt there any x-window-system PAckage in 5.10??????????????????????????????/
[07:41] <yanis> it's vital!!!!
[07:41] <Jochen> adept is trying to remove something, that isn't on the system anyway and stops
[07:41] <Seveas> yanis, x-window-system-xore
[07:41] <Seveas> core*
[07:42] <yanis> Seveas: after a 'server install' if I install that do you think I will have a basic X system???
[07:43] <Seveas> yes
[07:43] <yanis> Seveas: including twm for example?
[07:43] <definity> is there any basic network tools for konsole
[07:43] <yanis> Seveas: and xterm ?
[07:43] <Jochen> Hallo... is there nobody who can help me?
[07:44] <Seveas> no, neither
[07:44] <zAo^> what is it Jochen ?
[07:44] <cmatheson_> Jochen: just ask your question
[07:44] <symtab> hello again...any ideas where i can find gaim-2.0 packages for ubuntu?
[07:44] <yanis> Seveas: neinther of the apps?
[07:44] <ryancasimiro> helP!
[07:44] <Jochen> ADEPT is broken
[07:44] <zAo^> symtab, only in CVS..
[07:44] <cmatheson_> !tell Jochen about questions
[07:44] <ryancasimiro> what is the symbol for "not equal"
[07:44] <Jowi> yanis: you need to install xterm and a wm seperatly
[07:44] <Jochen> ADEPT is trying to remove something from the system that doesn't exist anymore on the system
[07:45] <ryancasimiro> in programming
[07:45] <symtab> zAo^, so only way is to build gaim from sources?
[07:45] <zAo^> ryancasimiro, != of <>
[07:45] <zAo^> symtab, yes, I did so too
[07:45] <zAo^> or *
[07:45] <yanis> Seveas: Jowi I am *sure* that in 5.04 I had install 2 packages (xorg +xfs) and I had all of them
[07:45] <ryancasimiro> so, do i type "!= of <>"? the whole thing?
[07:45] <pixelmonkey> is evolution not playing well with spamassassin in latest breezy?
[07:45] <ryancasimiro> i tried != and it didnt work
[07:46] <zAo^> ryancasimiro, no :) sorry, just: !=         OR         <>
[07:46] <Seveas> yanis, in breezy xorg fell apart in tons of packages
[07:46] <kraftwerk_> The sidebuttons on my mouse aren't functioning correctly, any ideas?
[07:46] <Spy> hi
[07:46] <definity> is there any basic network tools for konsole?
[07:46] <yanis> Seveas: oh!!that the reason!!!
[07:46] <saif> cable
[07:46] <Jochen> No idea?
[07:46] <Spy> Can any1 give me a link to a tutorial from installing from hard disk
[07:46] <saif> internet through cable
[07:46] <Jowi> definity: ssh, telnet (ewww), ftp
[07:47] <Spy> or if sum1 could help me with the error i get when installing from disc
[07:47] <serge> How can I activate administrativ task in web cups ?
[07:47] <zAo^> kraftwerk_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MX1000Mouse?highlight=%28mx1000%29
[07:48] <Jowi> definity: also rsync, wget, elinks. (if by konsole you mean a terminal)
[07:48] <zAo^> Spy, what error?
[07:48] <kraftwerk_> thx
[07:49] <Spy> cannot initialize inittrd check var/log/boot.log
[07:49] <Zedman> what version of cdrecord works fine with ubuntu?
[07:50] <djst> help! my gdm broke :(
[07:50] <djst> gdm keeps restarting
[07:50] <Spy> zAo^: I got it to pass last time by manually setting up the partitions but i cant seem to get it 2 work
[07:50] <djst> i can login to x by using startx manually, but gdm constantly restarts after  ~ 1 sec
[07:51] <nomats> try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:51] <Spy> zAo^: This is the one it says it has a problem with initrd.gz (at about 85% of installing base system)
[07:51] <rich-> hello all.. d/ling ubuntu for my first try! =D
[07:51] <Spy> nomats: ME?
[07:51] <xae> rich-: good luck
[07:51] <__filip_> Hello, i have some problem to mount my hda6. I whant my hda6 to be automounted and i know i should write something in /etc/fstab but dont what. my hda6 filesystem is ext3 and it should be mounted to /mnt/hda6. My user(filip) should be abel to read in it. Somebody know what it is i should write?
[07:51] <rich-> xae: was that a good "good luck" or sarcasm?? hahah
[07:52] <xae> rich-: ... im still fighting with it :p (its not liking my system setup / windows)
[07:52] <rich-> xae: ahh.. hopefully ill be ok.. single OS load. Been having issues with ArchLinux so i went looking around =D
[07:52] <Spy> filip : Have you checked : http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:52] <Madeye> any idea how to get out of this deb hell http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6657
[07:52] <Seveas> Spy, don't recommend that crap
[07:52] <__filip_> Spy: No
[07:52] <Seveas> !ubuntuguide
[07:52] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[07:52] <xae> uhm whats "Error 15" in the grub loader mean?
[07:53] <Seveas> __filip_, good, keep it that way :)
[07:53] <xae> !error15?
[07:53] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, xae
[07:53] <Spy> hehe, that crap helped me to get my ntfs mounted
[07:53] <__filip_> Seveas: Hehe :>
[07:53] <xae> hrm
[07:53] <djst> nomats: i've tried restarting, removing, reinstalling, and reconfiguring gdm
[07:53] <djst> nothing works
[07:53] <AIV> thanks
[07:53] <AIV> Im reading up on it nw
[07:54] <djst> i've tried posting in the ubuntu forums without luck
[07:54] <Seveas> djst, what's the problem?
[07:54] <djst> i'm out of ideas :(
[07:54] <djst> Seveas: gdm starts, but closes after ~ 1 second
[07:54] <djst> Seveas: X works using startx, but gdm doesn't
[07:54] <Seveas> hmm
[07:54] <djst> don't know what's wrong, no error messages
[07:54] <Seveas> tried purging gdm?
[07:54] <djst> i've tried apt-get remove gdm
[07:55] <djst> i've tried reinstaling
[07:55] <Seveas> try apt-get remove --purge gdm
[07:55] <Seveas> and then reinstall it
[07:55] <djst> what's the difference?
[07:55] <Seveas> remove leaves configfiles
[07:55] <Seveas> remove --purge gets rid of them
[07:55] <Madeye> any idea how to get out of this deb hell http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6657
[07:55] <djst> Seveas: but the normal remove gets rid of the whole /etc/X11/gdm folder
[07:56] <Seveas> djst, there's /etc/gdm.conf too :)
[07:56] <Seveas> (and maybe more)
[07:56] <Jowi> how do I use gcc3.x temporary for this session instead of 4.x?
[07:56] <Seveas> Jowi, export CC=gcc-3.4
[07:56] <ryancasimiro> ./create.sh: line 20: [: =: unary operator expected
[07:56] <ryancasimiro>  <- can someone explain this?
[07:56] <Jowi> Seveas: cheers!
[07:56] <__filip_> Seveas: I can only find information how to mount Windows partition not ext3
[07:56] <ryancasimiro> what does the error mean?
[07:56] <ryancasimiro> :D
[07:56] <Seveas> ryancasimiro, put the script on the pastebin
[07:56] <djst> Seveas: ah! :)
[07:56] <djst> Seveas: i'll try it then
[07:56] <Terrasque> Seveas, you always answer before I get the chance.. :)
[07:56] <Seveas> __filip_, mount /dev/yourdrive /path/to/mountpoint
[07:56] <ryancasimiro> whats a pastebin?
[07:57] <ryancasimiro> im sorru, im still a beginner
[07:57] <Seveas> !tell ryancasimiro about pastebin
[07:57] <ryancasimiro> i just started 2months ago
[07:57] <ryancasimiro> haha
[07:57] <pixelmonkey> so evolution + spamassassin works for everyone here, it's only me with the issues?
[07:57] <Spy> filip : Ur fstab should already have entites mounting ext3 (ur boot and root) so perhaps open it and check
[07:57] <djst> Seveas: if there's gdm.conf there, why is there another gdm.conf in the folder X11/gdm?
[07:57] <Seveas> djst, symlinks I guess
[07:57] <Seveas> brb
[07:57] <__filip_> Seveas. Thanx
[07:57] <ryancasimiro> please help me!
[07:58] <Madeye> [07:58] <Madeye> diversion of /etc/cron.daily/find to /etc/cron.daily/find.notslocate by slocate
[07:58] <Madeye> [07:58] <Madeye> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_2.7-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[07:58] <Madeye>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:58] <Madeye> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:58] <ryancasimiro> i need it for my project
[07:58] <Madeye>  /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_2.7-4_i386.deb
[07:58] <Madeye> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:58] <Madeye> any idea
[07:58] <djst> Seveas: but then you'd think the /etc/gdm.conf one is the symlink.. right? so the config should have been removed anyway
[07:58] <guzu> hello all
[07:58] <echeese> Hi
[07:58] <echeese> I've never used ubuntu
[07:58] <echeese> or linux for that matter
[07:58] <ryancasimiro> hi! help me! please!
[07:58] <echeese> but I'm getting it for the first time
[07:59] <djst> Seveas: i'll try restarting x now
[07:59] <echeese> Anything I should know?
[07:59] <JoeBlow> is their a way to close a program that wont let u close it manually
[07:59] <ryancasimiro> is anyone listening to me?
[07:59] <ryancasimiro> can i rely this channel to help me with my problems?
[07:59] <Kindred> echeese, err not really :)
[07:59] <Jemt> Greetings. Is there some way I can see which character encoding I have used in a specific text file (PHP file) ?
[08:00] <Zedman> hello. what version of cdrecord works fine with ubuntu?
[08:00] <echeese> JoeBlow: Ctrl-Alt-Escape
[08:00] <echeese> then click on it
[08:00] <echeese> then press escape
[08:00] <Kindred> ryancasimiro, if you say your problem if anyone knows hopefully they'll help you :|
[08:00] <djst> Seveas: you the man ;)
[08:00] <djst> Seveas: thanks a lot.. didn't realize there were two gdm folders in /etc
[08:00] <Seveas> DJSlakoR, last time I checked, I'm still a man :)
[08:00] <JoeBlow> echeese: didnt do anything
[08:00] <Seveas> djst*
[08:00] <djst> :)
[08:01] <djst> gotta go. cheers!
[08:01] <Seveas> ryancasimiro, it's quite busy sometimes, but generally you can rely on us :
[08:01] <Seveas> djst, bye
[08:01] <XHK> How can I install .deb file ^^
[08:01] <ryancasimiro> sorry sorry. i am grateful for your help. this irc and web forums are of great help
[08:02] <julio>  Hi men, how can i test my ge force mx 4000? to see if is she correct instaled
[08:02] <zAo^> XHK, sudo dpkg -i *.de
[08:02] <zAo^> *.deb ..
[08:02] <XHK> ty zAo^
[08:02] <julio>  Hi men, how can i test my ge force mx 4000? to see if is she correct instaled
[08:02] <julio>  Hi men, how can i test my ge force mx 4000? to see if is she correct instaled
[08:02] <Seveas> ryancasimiro, it generally helps to just ask a question
[08:03] <Seveas> julio, did you do what ubotu told you?
[08:03] <echeese> Is the dvd a LiveCD?
[08:03] <julio> yes
[08:03] <julio> but i dont want to install
[08:03] <Seveas> echeese, live and install :)
[08:03] <julio> i want to TEST
[08:03] <echeese> Seveas: Sweeet
[08:03] <Jemt> How can I see which character encoding is being used for a specific PHP file (text file) ?
[08:03] <Seveas> julio, so you installed the resticted modules, the xorg driver and you did nvidia-glx-enable?
[08:03] <Seveas> Jemt, file filename.php
[08:03] <Jemt> Seveas: Thanks, i'll try that
[08:04] <julio> the ubuntu dont isntall alone?
[08:04] <julio> the ubuntu dont isntall the video card alone?
[08:04] <Seveas> nvidia cards need some manual action, as ubotu told you
[08:04] <zAo^> julio, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[08:05] <ztreck> How do i uninstall apache2, i use "apt-get remove apache2" but i can still access http://localhost/
[08:05] <zAo^> ztreck, stop it :) its in memory :)
[08:05] <Seveas> ztreck, did you perhaps install apache 1 too?
[08:05] <Seveas> zAo^, the preinst runs the stop script
[08:05] <Seveas> prerm*
[08:06] <zAo^> Seveas, hmm. Sorry, didn't know that. Thanks.
[08:06] <Jemt> Seveas: 'file' dosn't display the character encoding - and the man page is not readable
[08:06] <Terrasque> ztreck: sudo netstat -lntp | grep :80
[08:07] <JoeBlow> I have a folder that i need to put into iso format, i think im supposed to use mkisofs but i cant find anything on how to use it
[08:07] <ztreck> How can i stop apache2? i don't have any other version installed, and i have rebooted my system
[08:07] <trappist> JoeBlow: the man page for mkisofs is pretty readable
[08:07] <Jemt> ztreck: /etc/init.d/apache stop
[08:07] <Terrasque> ztreck, did you do what I typed?
[08:07] <Mathew> Hello all.
[08:08] <Jemt> ztreck: Might be 'apache2' instea
[08:08] <ztreck> Terrasque, yes
[08:08] <Jemt> ztreck: Might be 'apache2' instead
[08:08] <Terrasque> ztreck, and what did it show?
[08:08] <ztreck> tcp6       0      0 :::80                   :::*                    LISTEN     8011/apache2
[08:08] <JoeBlow> trappist: I googled for it and didnt see it
[08:08] <Mathew> Hello, I've installed ssh as a service and it didn't add a script to /etc/init.d/ ..
[08:09] <Mathew> with apt-get
[08:09] <Terrasque> ztreck, and you did "apt-get remove apache2"? strange
[08:09] <Mathew> am I missing something?
[08:09] <Kyral> Mathew: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:09] <trappist> JoeBlow: googled?  just type `man mkisofs` in a console
[08:10] <Zedman> hello. what version of cdrecord works fine with ubuntu?
[08:10] <femtoguy> I have a quick question about grub and kernel upgrades
[08:10] <trappist> Zedman: the version it ships with works fine
[08:11] <Mathew> kyral, I was logged in as root
[08:11] <Mathew> let me try again just to make sure
[08:11] <Kyral> Mathew: didja install openssh-server?
[08:11] <femtoguy> I did a kernel upgrade, and it replaced my windowsxp line in my menu.lst file with the new ubuntu kernel.  I re-edited the file, and put the windows xp line back in, but it seems bad that ubuntu would wreck a set-up like that.
[08:12] <Stork> femtoguy, get over it, no one likes windows.
[08:12] <femtoguy> Well, yeah, but my wife was a bit upset when she turned on the computer and windows wasn't there.
[08:12] <Kyral> lol
[08:12] <Stork> back slap her
[08:12] <Mathew> stork, if you're not helping, you're just being an a-hole
[08:12] <Kyral> Make it look like XP lol
[08:13] <Seveas> femtoguy, then your winxp line was in the wrong place
[08:13] <kraftwerk_> How do I run programs at login with XFCE (without using a saved session)
[08:13] <Seveas> femtoguy, read the comments in that file
[08:13] <Stork> Mathew, sounds about right
[08:13] <femtoguy> My bigger worry is that if I were a newbie, that would be the end of my linux experience.  I have been running Linux since '94, and know how to edit file, but most aren't
[08:13] <Mathew> ok.. just so we all know ;)
[08:13] <Stork> femtoguy, why not convert her to the light side :) ?
[08:13] <Spy> hi
[08:13] <Seveas> femtoguy, it's *your* mistake that it got deleted
[08:14] <femtoguy> When linux runs Quicken, I may have a shot.  Until then ...  (but don't think that I haven't thought of it.)
[08:14] <Seveas> it doesn't do that on its own
[08:14] <Mathew> windows makes it hard to do anything custom or interesting including jumping off a cliff... linux on the other hand.. well.
[08:14] <Kyral> lol no kiddin'
[08:14] <Kyral> My sister had a problem with her wireless net
[08:14] <Kyral> I was almost begging for a command line
[08:14] <RungeKutta> I've been running standard debian (testing and SID) for about 3.5yrs.  Is Ubuntu going to be really any different for me if I switch?
[08:14] <Mathew> anyone feel like helping me figure out how to have dual boot on this system?
[08:14] <kraftwerk_> How do I run programs at login with XFCE (without using a saved session)?
[08:15] <Spy> femotogu : That depends on what the users want to do...
[08:15] <Seveas> !tell RungeKutta about debian
[08:15] <Seveas> RungeKutta, the link ubotu gave you will shed some light
[08:15] <Spy> i remember family members being pissed at blue startup screen
[08:15] <Mathew> kyral, you can use command line in winblows
[08:15] <Kyral> Mathew: not like in Linux lol
[08:15] <Mathew> yeah, well.
[08:15] <Kyral> I wanted to do something like sudo dhclient eth0
[08:16] <Seveas> Kyral, cygwin+bash :)
[08:16] <Mathew> thats easy
[08:16] <RungeKutta> Seveas: ok thanks :)
[08:16] <femtoguy> But is there a way to make Ubuntu dual boot correctly?  There is no grub editing program that I can find.  And kernel upgrades should NOT host menu.lst files.
[08:16] <Seveas> Kyral, ipconfig /renew
[08:16] <Mathew> ipconfig "name of interface" /renew
[08:16] <JoeBlow> whats the best ubuntu program for burning cdS?
[08:16] <Kyral> You think my sister would like me putting Cygwin on her computer?
[08:16] <Seveas> femtoguy, they only do if *YOU* edit it wrong
[08:16] <Kyral> k3b
[08:16] <idefix_> when you use gaim it sometimes says "user has closed the conversation window", when I ask the user about this they sometimes deny it, are they lying then?
[08:16] <Seveas> the commens in that file *CLEARLY* explain why
[08:16] <quiet> femtoguy, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ......
[08:16] <Seveas> idefix_, no
[08:17] <meborc> joeblow: gnomebaker
[08:17] <femtoguy> I had Windows Xp as my first option, and as my default boot.  I don't know what more to do
[08:17] <Spy> Kyral : I think se will love it
[08:17] <g00r0n> i recently installed ubuntu........everything works! (after a bit of tweaking)   my videocard was detected and the display looks good..........however, it still does not seem as sharp in comparison to when i boot into windows?    do i need to install something additionally to have a more crisp feel?
[08:17] <idefix_> Seveas, you mean gaim has a program error in it?
[08:17] <Seveas> femtoguy, you put it inside the automagic kernel list
[08:17] <kraftwerk_> no seriously, how do I run programs @ login with xfce?
[08:17] <Mathew> quiet.. feel like helping a serious newbie take the right steps to leave his ubuntu install alone while installing redhat EL
[08:17] <Seveas> which as i said 2 times already is documented as NOT GOOD
[08:17] <ryancasimiro> what is an EOF error? :)
[08:17] <quiet> Mathew, /j #unixpunx  :)
[08:17] <Spy> i second idefix_
[08:18] <Seveas> idefix_, no msn :)
[08:18] <Mathew> k, thanks
[08:18] <femtoguy> saying "vi menu.lst" is now a good way of attracting new users.
[08:18] <femtoguy> Now wait, what do you mean "inside the automagic kernel list"
[08:18] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[08:18] <Seveas> femtoguy, goddamnit
[08:18] <Terrasque> femtoguy, I agree! they should use emacs!
[08:18] <Seveas> read that file!!
[08:18] <gil-> i have a problem with a 4 in 1 card reader, i insert a card but it doesn't do anything...
[08:19] <RungeKutta> One other question regarding debian/ubuntu.  Are package repositories sharable?  Meaning, can I install a package I find in some random debian repository on apt-get.org and install it?
[08:19] <Spy> gil : Whats it suppose 2 do, mount it?
[08:19] <femtoguy> I will, but why is there no decent grub editing program to work out these details.  I think that dual boot system are the norm, and so I don't see why they should be hard to set up.
[08:19] <Seveas> RungeKutta, no
[08:19] <zAo^> gil-, what does `dmes | tail ` say?
[08:19] <RungeKutta> Seveas: aah ok, thanks again
[08:19] <gil-> spy, i guess
[08:19] <Seveas> RungeKutta, apt-get -b source is generally ok, but mixing binary packages is bad
[08:20] <RungeKutta> so I can build from source fine, usually, but not just install
[08:20] <RungeKutta> makes sesne
[08:20] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping
[08:20] <Seveas> femtoguy, there is one, but it does not yet work with Ubuntu
[08:20] <tahorg> mmh, with dapper's 2.6.15-11 kernel, I'm unable to get monitor mode on my ipw2200
[08:21] <Jowi> femtoguy: in /boot/brub/menu.lst = "End debian auto magic kernels list" -> you put your entry after this line so it wont be touched when/if you upgrade the kernel
[08:21] <sas171> hi, can somebody help me with my pppoe connection?
[08:21] <idefix_> if you log in with the root account on ubuntu you can only edit a file if it is chmod 777-ed (when you want to open the file with Nautilus
[08:21] <idefix_> )
[08:22] <Jowi> sas171: hopefully. what's wrong?
[08:22] <idefix_> that's actually good because if you leave your PC and someone else uses it when you are gone they cannot edit :-)
[08:22] <femtoguy> Jowi: Thanks. that's what I was missing.
[08:23] <Spy_> okay guys will u hold thumbs for me
[08:23] <Spy_> im going in with my cd 5.10
[08:23] <Jowi> femtoguy: there is more info at the top in the menu.lst file. don't forget to read the files you are editing.
[08:23] <Spy_> hehe, and lets hope that error doesnt jump up agian...
[08:23] <MrPockets> i am a uber noob, can someone please try to explane how i can watch video files in XMMS?
[08:24] <Pygi> !video
[08:24] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Pygi
[08:24] <Spy_> dont think u can
[08:24] <Pygi> !avi
[08:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:24] <Spy_> mm hey MR POCK have you tried vlc?
[08:24] <Pygi> !mpg
[08:24] <ubotu> Pygi: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[08:24] <femtoguy> I should say that I choose ubuntu for home despite the fact that I use RedHat at work (I have run planty of slackware, redhat, debian, mandrake and whatever in the past) because it is by far the easiest for general users.  This seems like a big problem for new users.
[08:24] <MrPockets> Spy_,  i dont believe so
[08:24] <MrPockets> or any way i can watch video in Ubuntu
[08:25] <MrPockets> doesnt have to be XMMS
[08:25] <ScootaDoota> use xine
[08:25] <MrPockets> how do i get it?
[08:25] <kemik> MrPockets:  use mplayer or vlc
[08:25] <Terrasque> MrPockets, xine mplayer and vlc are the usual video players on linux
[08:25] <MrPockets> whats the easiest to install?
[08:25] <Seveas> femtoguy, it's not
[08:25] <Seveas> 0.5% of the users ever change taht file
[08:25] <kemik> MrPockets:  vlc i'd say
[08:25] <Spy_> well first try their website or just try sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:26] <jenda> MrPockets: apt-get install anything :)
[08:26] <Seveas> and even 0.5% is overrated, more like 0.01%
[08:26] <sas171> ok, after the boot up i have 3 interfaces: eth1, pppoe0 and lo. My dsl modem is connected to eth1 and pppoe0 connection seems to run, but i cant ping google... i can access internet only after "pon dsl-provider" and then there are 2 pppoe connections... what should i do get connected on startup?
[08:26] <meborc> i like vlc as it can read even avi-files with errors as totem and mplayer crash :)
[08:26] <Terrasque> MrPockets, all of them. If you have the universe repositories activated you find them in synaptic
[08:26] <Spy_> does sudo mean run-ass root?
[08:26] <Chris_Tucker> i need help with my monitor horizontal sync range! its way out of wack, the picture is skewed and overlapping.. i have a picture but only via dcc or anonymous ftp if available.. imageshack is broken here :(
[08:26] <MrPockets> "couldnt find VLC"
[08:26] <Spy_> okay then u need to add repos, hold on
[08:27] <jenda> MrPockets, I recommend having all three: sometimes, xine won't play the sound, sometimes mplayer crashes, and VLC is a little more complicated to manage...
[08:27] <Chris_Tucker> right now im using 31.4 in my xorg.conf, thats the closest i can get to sqare, if i raise this, it gets overlapped more and skewed beyond visability
[08:27] <sas171> Chris_Tucker: your xorg.conf is probably wrong
[08:27] <Spy_> pock : http://www.ubuntux.org/node/139
[08:27] <Chris_Tucker> sas171, i know. but i kneed help finding the right ranges... if i didnt know i wouldnt know what was wrong ;)
[08:27] <Jowi> sas171: seems like you've configured several pppoe connections. remove them (not the eth, only the pppoe) and run pppoeconf again. you will get a question if the system should start the connection at boot.
[08:28] <Spy_> pock : this is what u must do http://www.ubuntux.org/node/71 and then u can sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:28] <guzu> Chris_Tucker, what monitor type?
[08:28] <Chris_Tucker> guzu, TV.
[08:28] <guzu> oh
[08:28] <sas171> Jowi: would to you mid if i asked you to see my interfaces file... i think its not valid.
[08:29] <guzu> Chris_Tucker, what video card?
[08:29] <Chris_Tucker> guzu, well, tv and monitor.. clone display.. the monitor is displaying nice and square but the TV is wacked.. want the .jpg?
[08:29] <Chris_Tucker> ATi Radeon 7000
[08:29] <meheren> is there a "reinstall" feature for symnaptic form the command line???
[08:29] <Chris_Tucker> brand spanking new
[08:29] <XHK> how can I open xmms, after I have installed it =/
[08:29] <brian_> ok, what should i use to mount an iso in ubuntu?
[08:29] <Rawplayer> with a can opener
[08:29] <guzu> Chris_Tucker, sorry, i have no idea how ati should be set up :(
[08:29] <Jowi> sas171: no need. launch "sudo network-admin" and remove those pppoe connectors. then run pppoeconf again.
[08:30] <sp1> hello
[08:30] <Chris_Tucker> guzu, its not the driver its the horizontal sync
[08:30] <Chris_Tucker> guzu, here have a look.. dcc..
[08:30] <julio> Hi
[08:30] <brian_> whats the best program to use to mount iso's?
[08:30] <ScootaDoota> toolbar (top left) under applications > sound and video
[08:30] <julio> I download the DRIVER OF NVIDIA FOR LINUX
[08:30] <julio> in the nvidia site
[08:30] <julio> but when im isntaling
[08:30] <Jowi> brian_: "mount" :)
[08:30] <julio> instaling
[08:30] <julio> that error Account
[08:31] <sp1> I need some help about wifi... :D
[08:31] <julio> that error begin!
[08:31] <julio> ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[08:31] <julio>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[08:31] <julio>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[08:31] <guzu> Chris_Tucker, try to read docs on ati homepage or on tv maker's
[08:31] <julio>   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[08:31] <julio>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[08:31] <julio>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[08:31] <julio>                                        OK
[08:31] <julio>   NVIDIA Software Installer for Unix/Linux                      www.nvidia.com
[08:31] <pavlos> have a nice day...i think i will be needing a lot of help ....
[08:31] <julio> ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[08:31] <julio>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[08:31] <julio>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[08:31] <julio>                                        OK
[08:31] <julio> ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[08:31] <julio>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[08:31] <julio>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[08:31] <Chris_Tucker> guzu, already have
[08:31] <julio>                                        OK
[08:31] <julio>  MY NVIDIA ERROR
[08:31] <purpleheart_USMC> What is the difference between the ubuntu cd and dvd releases?
[08:31] <moodog> julio: Why not install the Ubuntu package?
[08:31] <sas171> Jowi: hm, command not found
[08:32] <Chris_Tucker> !paste
[08:32] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:32] <julio> modog
[08:32] <ScootaDoota> julio:  sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[08:32] <Jowi> julio: read what you just posted. the answer is in front of your eyes. and please use pastebin. don't flood the channel
[08:32] <Terrasque> purpleheart_USMC, the dvd version got more stuff on it
[08:32] <purpleheart_USMC> Terrasque: like what?
[08:32] <julio> i cant understand very good the english jowi.
[08:32] <zAo^> julio, /usr/bin/ld ??
[08:32] <MrPockets> shit this supository shit is way over my head
[08:32] <julio> hey i download the driver
[08:32] <stark-johan> I have a program that's trying to use my parallell port but it seem like it's allready active in some way. It's for my eprom programmer, It has a light that indicates activity and it lights up when I program under windows but in ubuntu it on all the time. Any tips?
[08:32] <Jowi> sas171: network-admin? oh. ok. post your interfaces anyway then at pastebin
[08:32] <julio> put in the terminal the comand
[08:32] <bettong_BOFH> Type cat vmlinuz > /dev/audio to hear the Voice of God.
[08:33] <julio> sudo sh ...
[08:33] <Spy_> MrPockets : There is a graphical way to do it
[08:33] <Jowi> julio: sudo apt-get install binutils
[08:33] <julio> but
[08:33] <julio> Thx..
[08:33] <julio> Jowi
[08:33] <julio> Sorry im new in the linux
[08:33] <julio> it is my first time man
[08:33] <moodog> julio: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver has detailed instructions
[08:33] <Terrasque> purpleheart_USMC, dunno. only real difference I've noticed is that it installed an optimized kernel for my machine. But I always replace the apt sources.list asap..
[08:33] <Spy_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:33] <MrPockets> Spy_,  meaning?
[08:33] <purpleheart_USMC> ah
[08:34] <sas171> Jowi: http://pastebin.com/492212
[08:34] <julio> thx moodog!!!
[08:34] <MrPockets> yeah i saw that, still over my hear.
[08:34] <Spy_> only follow it till this line: Once the package list has been updated, packages from universe can be installed.
[08:35] <Spy_> its very simple.. open the apt-get GRAPHICAL VERSION
[08:35] <Spy_> go to the settings --> Repositories
[08:35] <Spy_> and then enable those which are disabled by default
[08:35] <mwe> !ubuntuguide
[08:35] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:35] <bipolar> the new kernel and fglrx still crashes for me.
[08:35] <bipolar> in dapper
[08:35] <sas171> Jowi: and there is my ifconfig now too
[08:36] <MrPockets> spy can you PM me?
[08:36] <Spy_> sure
[08:36] <mwe> bipolar: yeah. fglrx needs a patch to work with 2.6.15 kernels
[08:36] <bipolar> I see there is a patch of sorts that supposedly makes it work.
[08:36] <JDahl> I just tried installing Jabber-amd64, but it the installation freezes shortly after choosing language and keyboard (before loading packages from CD-ROM)
[08:36] <bipolar> mwe, are you using it?
[08:36] <zblach> hey, quick question. i got a new keyboard with all sorts of fancy keys. how can I tie them to stuff?
[08:36] <mwe> bipolar: in breezy, but a custom 2.6.15 kernel, yes
[08:36] <Spy_> mr pockets : It says mp is disabled due to spam problems
[08:36] <bipolar> mwe, how did you create the new fglrx module?
[08:37] <Jowi> sas171: looks ok. run pppoeconf again, and at the end when it asks you if you want it to connect at boot, say yes
[08:37] <mwe> bipolar: I patched the source then built the module as you usually would
[08:37] <sas171> Jowi: hm, ok ill try it
[08:37] <sas171> thanks
[08:37] <Spy_> MR POCKETS : ill guide you through the steps, r u on ubuntu now?
[08:37] <afief> I have problems compiling with GCC /tmp/cc3irSVc.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
[08:37] <afief> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[08:38] <mwe> bipolar: Maybe that patch is in the dapper release of fglrx already though, but I don't think so though I don't know
[08:38] <moodog> mwe: surely would be better to post a useful link rather than complain about a guide that for this point seems to work?
[08:38] <mwe> !nvidia
[08:38] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:38] <mwe> moodog: there
[08:38] <zblach> not fun having all these dead keys. is there nothing I can do?
[08:38] <bipolar> mwe, so you are using the ati driver from ati's site, not the one in the repo, right?
[08:38] <albacker> i download cltl   "Description: Common Lisp the Language, second edition, book (Pre-ANSI)
[08:38] <albacker> " with apt-get, how do i read it now ?
[08:38] <PuMpErNiCkEl> odd
[08:39] <moodog> mwe: well done :)
[08:39] <mwe> bipolar: right. I have to. I use a custom kernel
[08:39] <zblach> !keyboard
[08:39] <ubotu> zblach: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:39] <zblach> ?
[08:39] <Spy_> he doesnt know
[08:39] <sas171> Jowi: hm, it only searches for PPPoE concentrator and finds nothing...
[08:39] <zblach> msg ubotu keyboards
[08:39] <Spy_> remember "/"
[08:39] <afief> can someone tell me how to get GCC to work? gotta compile my homework
[08:39] <PuMpErNiCkEl> !ritalin
[08:40] <Jowi> sas171: that's odd. anyone else knows about this one?
[08:40] <albacker> guys i downloaded the lisp book by doing : "apt-get install cltl" how do i read the book now ? where is it located ?!
[08:40] <mwe> afief: install build-essential
[08:40] <Spy_> afief : sudo apt-get install gcc
[08:40] <sas171> :(
[08:40] <Terrasque> afief, install the package build-essentials ?
[08:40] <Spy_> then u want to get a GUI for editing source files
[08:40] <C-O-L-T> I have a question
[08:40] <afief> mew, spy_ terrasque: all installed, but still get an error when i try to compile my simple .C files
[08:40] <Ariel_> quick question is there a apt-get for the add-ons disk?  is there an addon disk for 5.10?
[08:40] <zblach> !keyboards
[08:40] <ubotu> keyboards are the things you type with
[08:41] <C-O-L-T> do you think fedora core is better than ubuntu?
[08:41] <Spy_> what error?
[08:41] <Spy_> did u install make?
[08:41] <Ariel_> fedora is just a beta test for redhat
[08:41] <Spy_> i remember i had to do something tricky
[08:41] <ScootaDoota> C-O-L-T:  They both have good and bad points
[08:41] <mwe> C-O-L-T: I guess we wouldn't be using ubuntu if we did :)
[08:41] <MrPockets> Spy_,  so i seleceted the ones that wernt selected
[08:41] <afief> C-O-L-T: used to be Fedora, it's a nice package, but i think ubuntu is better for the desktop
[08:41] <Spy_> afief : what error?
[08:42] <MrPockets> nowi just sudo apt-get vlc ?
[08:42] <Terrasque> C-O-L-T, I like fedora best! Thats why I use ubuntu! Duh
[08:42] <julio> Hi
[08:42] <julio> julio@martinez:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[08:42] <julio> Lendo Lista de Pacotes... Pronto
[08:42] <julio> Construindo rvore de Dependncias... Pronto
[08:42] <julio> O pacote nvidia-settings no est disponvel, mas  referenciado por outro pacote.
[08:42] <julio> Isso pode significar que o pacote est faltando, ficou obsoleto ou
[08:42] <julio> est disponvel somente a partir de outra fonte
[08:42] <julio> E: O pacote nvidia-settings no tem candidato para instalao
[08:42] <julio> julio@martinez:~$
[08:42] <Spy_> yes, did u do the other steps... its sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:42] <mad_phoenix> does anybody know the link to the wiki site that gives instructions on setting up Apache/MySQL/PHP un breezy?
[08:42] <erUSUL> julio, please do not paste here please
[08:42] <albacker> C-O-L-T, ubuntu has the best package manager ! apt !
[08:42] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[08:42] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:42] <C-O-L-T> I see, thanks
[08:42] <julio> sorry
[08:42] <Kindred> !apache
[08:42] <zblach> nothing on keyboards, neh?
[08:42] <ubotu> well, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[08:42] <Jowi> sas171: edit the /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and change "alias net-pf-10 ipv6" to "alias net-pf-10 off
[08:42] <_ian_> hi
[08:42] <brian_> damn mount option doesnt work, it tells me the file doesnt exist, and i know i pointed it perfectly
[08:42] <afief> Spy_: /tmp/ccw8Kj3e.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
[08:42] <afief> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[08:42] <mad_phoenix> thanks!
[08:42] <C-O-L-T> albacker: probably but it has very few packages included
[08:42] <C-O-L-T> on the cd
[08:43] <_ian_> how can i transfer files form my user accoutn to other user accounts? usr folders
[08:43] <Spy_> how far did it get afief?
[08:43] <erUSUL> ubotu, tell julio about pt
[08:43] <albacker> C-O-L-T, no it doesnt. you have to add repos !
[08:43] <albacker> can someone help me please with my problem ? i downloaded the lisp book, with apt-get install cltl and how do i read it ? where is it located ?
[08:43] <afief> spy_: no where at all. this is the only line i get, and there is only one .C file to compile anyway
[08:43] <kemik> albacker:  guess noone knows right now.. try later perhaps
[08:43] <erUSUL> albacker, try /usr/share/doc/
[08:43] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I mean that fedora core is 4 cd and ubuntu just one
[08:43] <Spy_> afeif... im going to fresh install ubuntu right now, ill be in this channel within 40mins - 1hr then we can install vlc together ok
[08:43] <sas171> Jowi: done
[08:43] <brian_> Jowi: I followed the wiki thing on how to mount iso to a T, and it tells me disk1.iso: No such file or directory
[08:44] <C-O-L-T> albacker: you need net connection to download  a lot of things
[08:44] <MrPockets> or better yet, i have totem already, i just need the decoders for it?
[08:44] <albacker> C-O-L-T, ok, you can use internet to get packages !
[08:44] <Terrasque> C-O-L-T, use the ubuntu dvd instead, then
[08:44] <Jowi> sas171: time to reboot. we just removed ipv6 support.
[08:44] <john__> Hi can someone please help me. I had ubuntu dual booting perfect with windows XP and had grub installed to my linux root partition. Installed windows first then linux. BUT... I had to install windows again and XP has used its only boot loader instead of grub and I cant boot ubuntu :(
[08:44] <albacker> C-O-L-T, i know, i have dialup thats a pain in the ass for me, but its better downloading them than just getting from CD !
[08:44] <zAo^> MrPockets, gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse ?
[08:44] <MrPockets> hmm?
[08:45] <sas171> Jowi: why?
[08:45] <Terrasque> MrPockets, install the gstreamer0.8-plugins package to get totem to play more stuff..
[08:45] <brian_> john__: theirs a thing on the wiki, do u have the live cd?
[08:45] <Spy_> afief try compiling a C++ file
[08:45] <mwe> john__: boot from a live cd and reinstall grub
[08:45] <john__> yes i have the live cd
[08:45] <mwe> john__: there is a wiki IIRC
[08:45] <john__> how do I do that?
[08:45] <Jowi> sas171: that's the concentrator error most likely
[08:45] <MrPockets> Terrasque, excellant,  how?
[08:45] <mwe> john__: search wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:45] <stark-johan> hod wo I reload /etc/modules?
[08:45] <brian_> john__: go to ubuntu.com and look on the wiki, theirs a thing for recovering it, i had to do it manually today and it worked great
[08:45] <Terrasque> MrPockets, the usual way. via apt / synaptic
[08:45] <kemik> !tell john__ about grub
[08:45] <afief> Spy_: where do i find a good c++ file to try it on?
[08:45] <Spy_> here i quickly give u code
[08:45] <rich-> #ubuntu: installing.. wish me luck!
[08:46] <brian_> can someone help me out with mounting iso's , i followed the ubuntu wiki and it didnt work
[08:46] <kemik> john__:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:46] <zAo^> rich-, luck :D
[08:46] <Terrasque> rich-, break a hdd!
[08:46] <Kindred> good luck rich-
[08:46] <john__> cheers you guys
[08:46] <Spy_> #include <iostream> int main() { reutnr 0 };
[08:46] <guest_> hi all
[08:46] <sas171> Jowi: oh, yes, when i want to shut down and the internet connection is on im getting some dns error...
[08:46] <C-O-L-T> albacker: that is my case too, i have dialup too, that is the problem of ubuntu, that it does not come with a lot of packages.
[08:46] <Spy_> afief:*return 0
[08:46] <mwe> john__: here it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:46] <guest_> really simple question, could someone give me a CLI command to determmine the speed of my imac? i cant remember the processor??
[08:47] <Terrasque> C-O-L-T, as I said earlier. ubuntu also have a DVD
[08:47] <Spy_> wherE?
[08:47] <brian_> john__: Ive had no luck with any of those instructions other then manual, but the manual is alot easier then it seems
[08:47] <mwe> guest_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:47] <jahshua--> hey can anyone help me out im trying to get mplayer to play a dvd i downloaded in fullscreen ... i tried ..  mplayer -vo xv .. that didnt work .. i also hit f while it was playing but that just made the window bigger but not the screen ..anyone got any other ideas??
[08:47] <Spy_> where can i get the ubuntu dvd?
[08:47] <guest_> thanks mwe
[08:47] <Jowi> sas171: well, dns error is another issue.
[08:47] <john__> brian_, do you have alink
[08:47] <albacker> C-O-L-T, how will you get ubuntu or fedora CDs ?
[08:48] <yanis> back
[08:48] <brian_> john__: some guy sent it to you, its at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:48] <mwe> john__: here it is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:48] <afief> spy_ I get lot's of unidentified references
[08:48] <brian_> john_: the manual instructions work pretty well for me
[08:48] <Spy_> Terrasque : Where can i dl the ubuntu dvd
[08:48] <brian_> can anyone help me out with mounting iso's.
[08:48] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I don't have dvd drive :( so i need iso images. I can download fedora cd's from net
[08:49] <bina> could someone suggest a tool for converting .wmv to .mpg files.  I've had a go with mencoder but It doesnt detect the frame rate properly and it doesnt seem to be constant so i cant set it manually
[08:49] <brian_> john__: Microsoft assuming u want their bootloader is what made me completely give up windows
[08:49] <Spy_> afief, mm im lost.. im going 2 install ubuntu now so then ill try getting gcc to work myself.
[08:49] <Terrasque> Spy_, look at the bottom of the ubuntu download page
[08:49] <C-O-L-T> albacker: but after i have downloaded it I don't have to download so much things as it looks
[08:49] <paulproteus|lapt> Spy_: apt-get install build-essential
[08:49] <paulproteus|lapt> Once you install ubuntu.
[08:49] <Spy_> have u tried using synaptics and installing all the packeages that u think is important
[08:49] <brian_> can anyone help me out with mounting iso's.
[08:49] <yanis> I did apt-get xdm but I doesnt work right. I suspect that it needs some 'supportive'/depended apps.do you have any I idea what would it be?
[08:49] <afief> C-O-L-T: most of the software on the Fedora CDs are out of date anyway, if you update you won't be able to install most of it
[08:49] <Spy_> ubotu download
[08:49] <ubotu> hmm... download is get Ubuntu LiveCD & install ISOs at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and if you need information on burning ISOs, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[08:49] <albacker> C-O-L-T, if you download fedora cds, than youre able to download some packages for UBUNTU
[08:50] <afief> Spy_ installing ubuntu and trying to get it to work? really big thanks dude
[08:50] <Spy_> hehe terrasq i missed those
[08:50] <jahshua--> hey can anyone help me out im trying to get mplayer to play a dvd i downloaded in fullscreen ... i tried ..  mplayer -vo xv .. that didnt work .. i also hit f while it was playing but that just made the window bigger but not the screen ..anyone got any other ideas??
[08:50] <Jowi> yanis: apt-get should sort out that for you. what error do you get with xdm?
[08:50] <C-O-L-T> albacker: yes you are right, but if I am a traveller, having a laptop without internet connection what is than.
[08:50] <Ariel_> ubuntu setup is simple get the iso cd install done.
[08:50] <yanis> Jowi: again you :P I get *nothing*
[08:50] <albacker> C-O-L-T, getting isos with dialup is a foolish thing.. by downloading fedora core CDs youll get a bunch of packages you'll probably never need. by downloadin packages from net, youll get packages you need only
[08:50] <Jowi> jahshua--: i think if you press Z in mplayer it will go into fullscreen mode
[08:51] <yanis> Jowi: when I Install gdm though it works!
[08:51] <Spy_> afief think nothing of it, i just hope the cd i have isnt busted else i have to wait for dvd download
[08:51] <Spy_> brb 1hr - 1hr 30mins
[08:51] <albacker> C-O-L-T, install what you need by once, and keep them.
[08:51] <Jowi> yanis: wierd. installed xdm the other day. maybe your mirrors are crap
[08:51] <yanis> *gdm works ,now xdm
[08:51] <C-O-L-T> albacker: but probably i need a program but i don't know it's name, i need a photo editor and in ubuntu is not icluded
[08:52] <jahshua--> Jowi: nope :(
[08:52] <yanis> Jowi: xdm is running it just doesnth even display the login screen
[08:52] <Belboz99> Hey, anyone here good with video encoding?  I'm having trouble deinterlacing.
[08:52] <C-O-L-T> albacker: ubuntu should do like other distros post iso package images
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> I'm going to ask these once more; I might just break down and reinstall anyway:  Any suggestions for how to fix gdm breaking console switching, and a messed up hibernation shortcut key (both of which used to work)?
[08:52] <C-O-L-T> albacker: that is my point of view of course :)
[08:52] <yanis> Jowi: tell me something does xdm includes everything a dm needs?or the login screen is another app for example?
[08:53] <Jowi> jahshua--: mplayer --help will give you options. should be either a fullscreen or a "zoom" option. try -zoom first
[08:53] <mwe> yanis: xdm is a login manager in itself
[08:53] <albacker> C-O-L-T, anyway, if ubuntu doesnt complete your needs than you get another distro. but belive me, ubuntu is a _good_ one.
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> 120!!!
[08:53] <Jowi> yanis: xdm is its own master i think.
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> You can log into dapper inside 120 megs now!
[08:54] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, I might before I gave up type the following >>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[08:54] <bluefoxicy> with the newest updates
[08:54] <yanis> mwe: so it should work. is there any lightweight X display manager ?
[08:54] <Belboz99> Jowi, would you happen to know anything about video encoding?
[08:54] <Despe84> hello, I'm new on it channel and I don't speack english very well but I understand that you write
[08:54] <yanis> jahshua--: /j #mplayer
[08:54] <mwe> yanis: xdm is light weight
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, Okay, will do that.  Had tried reconfigure gdm before, but that gave an error.
[08:54] <Jowi> Belboz99: extremely little. i've just used dvd:rip. it's all automatic
[08:54] <Belboz99> Jowi, thanks anyway
[08:54] <yanis> mwe: I knom it is!!!but it doesnt work for me :/
[08:55] <Jowi> Despe84: maybe there is a channel for your language. what do you speak?
[08:55] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I like ubuntu and it is I think the best, I have tried a few ones, but I like this one. My only problem is with this package thing. If I have some problems, or I have to reinstall ubuntu everything, all my packages are lost, and I have to download everything again.
[08:55] <mwe> yanis: I guess none will then until you find the reason i doesn't work
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> btw, I think it was intelikey, suggested it could be framebuffer-related, and told me to start with a kernel option of vga=0x0f05, but that didn't work.
[08:55] <Belboz99> anyone else know anything about video encoding?  I'm tyring to use Kino to deinterlace, but I think I have a compatability issue with mjpeg-tools
[08:55] <yanis> mwe: no!!gdm works!!!!!!
[08:55] <Terrasque> Jowi, I would guess french from his host
[08:55] <mwe> yanis: really?
[08:56] <Despe84> Jowi, I speack french, but I'm student and I learn english
[08:56] <mwe> yanis: well why do you wanna change it?
[08:56] <Most_Wanted> hi
[08:56] <ompaul> !fr
[08:56] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:56] <ompaul> Despe84,   ^^^^^ that is for you
[08:56] <ompaul> Despe84,   ^^^^^ that is for you
[08:56] <Jowi> Despe84: ok. il y a #ubuntu-fr si tu veux. or english in here
[08:56] <yanis> mwe: gdm is gnome=bloat :P
[08:56] <ompaul> Despe84, if you get stuck :)
[08:56] <albacker> C-O-L-T, packages you download are stored into a folder .. [all the .deb's]  you can backup them into a cd and than reinstall everything from there.
[08:56] <yanis> mwe: whatever- I give up/gnome won
[08:56] <Despe84> ubotu, I can't stay here ?
[08:56] <ubotu> Despe84: Are you smoking crack?
[08:56] <Terrasque> yanis, X is bloat, console ftw :p
[08:56] <rich-> Update: Install going smooth so far, detecting hardware.
[08:56] <Despe84> ubotu, hh, NO ! :)
[08:56] <ubotu> Not a clue, Despe84
[08:57] <beep> can someone help me on atapi cdrecord?
[08:57] <yanis> Terrasque: I know........
[08:57] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I will do that probably. Thanks for advice
[08:57] <Jowi> Despe84: of course you can. ubutu is a bot
[08:57] <mwe> yanis: once you've logged in gdm uses close to zero resources
[08:57] <albacker> C-O-L-T, here are the debs kept : v
[08:57] <albacker> C-O-L-T, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:57] <ScootaDoota> I love my console!
[08:57] <Despe84> ok Jowi, I haven't see
[08:57] <B166ERX> : i just installed a new Motherboard+cpu, and after booting, my ubuntu doesnt have any sound or 3D , i guess i have to reinstall the 3d support, but for sound ? i dont know how to do it
[08:58] <mwe> yanis: or get some kde bloat instead, kdm :) that one works as well.
[08:58] <C-O-L-T> albacker: these are my downloaded deb's?
[08:58] <yanis> mwe: maybe yes, BUT it changes that sexy black white grid backgroundb to the brown-human one
[08:58] <albacker> C-O-L-T, no problem, youre welcome.
[08:58] <spotted> Hello, I'd like to have an information.
[08:58] <Jowi> sas171: any luck after the ipv6 was disabled with pppoeconf?
[08:58] <mwe> yanis: get a different theme
[08:58] <Despe84> spotted, ?
[08:58] <spotted> Samba can be started from init.d and rc.d
[08:58] <mwe> yanis: there are dozens
[08:58] <Belboz99> Dang, Debian's server is down, so I can't download the latest Kino package.  I'm stuck with an out of date version that has compatability issues. :(
[08:58] <spotted> I disabled it from rc.d but I saw there's a config file in init.d
[08:58] <spotted> I edited /etc/inet.d/inetd.conf
[08:58] <mwe> yanis: if you insist I guess you could get xdm to work
[08:58] <spotted> and I commented its line
[08:58] <yanis> mwe: no you dont get it,its not about themes!! I am talkinng about the background of the desktep
[08:59] <slick> hi
[08:59] <mwe> yanis: I know
[08:59] <sas171> Jowi: ok, there was an error on bootup "ppp0:uknown hardware adress type 512" and an error in dhcp3 script...  except of that no changes
[08:59] <spotted> Have I to do somthing else to avoid its start?
[08:59] <spotted> something*
[08:59] <Despe84> Bon personne ne comprend le francais ici ? :o)
[08:59] <B166ERX> how do i reinstall sound support ?
[08:59] <yanis> anyway,enough for now...
[08:59] <slick> I just installed ubuntu but it dudn't ask for a root password so now I have my user but cant su root, any ideeas?:)
[08:59] <mwe> yanis: but you're talking about the background at the login, right?
[08:59] <Despe84> slick,
[08:59] <Kyral> ubotu: tell slick about RootSudo
[08:59] <zool2005> Despe84 : oui
[08:59] <yanis> no mwe !
[08:59] <sas171> Jowi: maybe i just want ot use another dhcp clien?
[09:00] <yanis> mwe: the barkground of the desktop
[09:00] <Despe84> run in rescue mode
[09:00] <spotted> :(
[09:00] <Jowi> sas171: ok . strange. how is the modem connected. to your eth1? is it a dsl router or a modem?
[09:00] <Despe84> and use the command : passwd
[09:00] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I have to say something I use the KDE GUI but I am thinking of changing to GNOME, is it possible without installing ubuntu? I mean everything remains but I will have GNOME. I am asking these questions because I am using Linux just for 3 months
[09:00] <mwe> yanis: you can change the background of the destop to anything you like with xsetroot
[09:00] <albacker> C-O-L-T, when you apt-get a package its .deb is stored under /var/cache/apt/archives. so you can backup only that directory !
[09:00] <sas171> Jowi: its a dsl modem...
[09:00] <mwe> yanis: what window manager do you use?
[09:00] <yanis> mwe: I know :P
[09:00] <john__> u know whats annoying about ubuntu
[09:00] <Terrasque> C-O-L-T, install the ubuntu-desktop package IIRC
[09:00] <Jowi> sas171: what type?
[09:00] <yanis> mwe: e17
[09:00] <kremonte> question, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules
[09:01] <john__> its so annoying that there is a wiki for everything!
[09:01] <ScootaDoota> slick:  sudo passwd then change the password
[09:01] <zool2005> john_ why is that annoying?
[09:01] <yanis> bye for now
[09:01] <Jowi> john__: correction. it is GOOD that there is a wiki for everything
[09:01] <slick> thx
[09:01] <sas171> Jowi: what do you mean? example of types...
[09:01] <Terrasque> john__, what's worse, you dont get the joy of hand-configuring X
[09:01] <john__> zool2005, cos im a spaz and need people to talk me through things
[09:01] <mwe> yanis: I must admit I don't really understand your problem :)
[09:01] <Jowi> sas171: I mean what is the brand and model of the modem?
[09:02] <john__> zool2005, im a big drain on resources man
[09:02] <ph8> anyone got a link to setting up ati cards on ubuntu?
[09:02] <albacker> C-O-L-T, are you using ubuntu at the moment or kubuntu ? anyway, whatever you use you can get gnome without having to reinstall your distro.. and yeah gnome is a good choice :)
[09:02] <yanis> mwe: its that I dont want to use gnome apps
[09:02] <Kindred> !ati
[09:02] <Jowi> sas171: sorry for expressing a bit unclear
[09:02] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:02] <yanis> mwe: when I can
[09:02] <ph8> you can run gnome and use kde apps, but you may as well use kde
[09:02] <zool2005> john_ : I think most people need a load of support at first
[09:02] <ph8> i run gnome but use Kate for example
[09:02] <slick> much better now :)
[09:02] <ph8> cheers kindred
[09:02] <sas171> Jowi: its a thomson speedtouch sap100647
[09:03] <sas171> Jowi: no worries =)
[09:03] <waldemarne> nasss
[09:03] <mwe> yanis: If you're really stubbon I'm sure you can get xdm to work though personally I think you're crazy :)
[09:03] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I am using KUBUNTU at the moment, but I have Gnoppix and I like GNOME
[09:03] <kameron> is there any way i can write a new partition table?
[09:03] <Despe84> sas171, in french we say : don't worry, be happy :)
[09:03] <kremonte> don't worry, be happy!
[09:04] <sas171> =)
[09:04] <beep> can someone help me on atapi cdrecord?
[09:04] <darkritual> ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:04] <darkritual>  <= another problem
[09:04] <albacker> sure you can install gnome :)
[09:04] <Despe84> yeahh kremonte !!! I like talk with you
[09:04] <mwe> kameron: yeah. use fdisk and make the partitions you want. but that's probably not what you mean
[09:04] <zool2005> I get an error when importing jpg photos from dig camera :  To open the file, rename the file to the correct extension for "JPEG image", then open the file normally, can anyone help please?
[09:05] <albacker> C-O-L-T, you can install it
[09:05] <sas171> darkritual: somebody can think _you_ are another problem =)
[09:05] <C-O-L-T> albacker: how? can you help me? PLS
[09:05] <C-O-L-T> albacker: :)
[09:05] <Terrasque> C-O-L-T, install the package ubuntu-desktop
[09:05] <kremonte> question, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules
[09:05] <aba-> 3/t
[09:05] <kameron> mwe: no, it's not. and you shouldn't reccomend fdisk to people in a linux channel! tisk tisk
[09:05] <aba-> oop
[09:05] <darkritual> sas171 lol i am one XD
[09:05] <Terrasque> C-O-L-T, and I really hope for your sake you dont have a dialup ;)
[09:06] <zAo^> kremonte, what does it say when you disable twinview?
[09:06] <mwe> kameron: of course linux fdisk. what's wrong with that?
[09:06] <Belboz99> Hey, what do you guys think of this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6662 ?
[09:06] <kremonte> zao, before i set up twinview it worked =^)
[09:06] <mwe> kameron: nothing wrong with linux fdisk IMO
[09:06] <mwe> kameron: I used it for years
[09:06] <kameron> mwe: oh right, forgot about that prog
[09:06] <zool2005> why does nautilus want me to change extensions from jpg to jpeg to open files?
[09:06] <mwe> kameron: I wouldn't recommend windoze programs in here
[09:06] <C-O-L-T> Terrasque: I have a very small connection 30kb / s
[09:06] <albacker> C-O-L-T, apt-get install gnome              wait im not sure if gnome is the right name tho'
[09:07] <albacker> guys when installing gnome, is gnome the right name to apt-get install ?
[09:07] <mwe> albacker: ubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <sas171> Jowi: any ideas?
[09:07] <afief> Does anybody else have a problem with GCC in Ubuntu?
[09:07] <Terrasque> albacker, I would suggest ubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <techone> ok so now Ive got firefox open and a directory listing of a web srever with some doc files. when I try to save it to disk the save dialog opens and lets me select a place to put it but after hitting save it sorta hangs and comes back the save dialog and clicking save a second time makes the window disappear.
[09:07] <elza> hi folks, I'm pretty new with all kinds of computer stuff and would like some help to upgrade my ubuntu version :)
[09:07] <techone> ANY IDEAS
[09:07] <fm> hi
[09:08] <mwe> elza: from what to what?
[09:08] <Jowi> sas171: cant find any info on it. is it connected to usb or ethernet?
[09:08] <elza> from the second latest to the latest I think
[09:08] <mwe> !breezy
[09:08] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:08] <mwe> elza: look at that
[09:08] <elza> sorry thank's
[09:08] <mwe> elza: don't worry
[09:08] <elza> I mean just thanks
[09:08] <polpak> afief, nope, no problems
[09:08] <albacker> C-O-L-T, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:09] <albacker> C-O-L-T, do that while being root
[09:09] <mwe> that'd be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:09] <afief> polpak: I get lot's of undefined references when i try gcc <file>
[09:09] <fm> I have a little problem with the allegro library but people on #allegro seem to be asleep so... I have to run something "in X mode" in opposition to "in console mode". So I guess it is just a question of how you start the program... i'm doing ./my_prog from a console, I guess I'm running it in console mode... But how do I run it in X mode then ?
[09:09] <Belboz99> can someone look at this error and tell me what's going wrong?  Thanks!  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6662
[09:09] <albacker> thanks mwe Terrasque
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> No luck, ompaul.
[09:10] <polpak> afief, what file? something you wrote?
[09:10] <ompaul> albacker, we don;t have root enabled for a reason /msg ubotu root to find the thinking
[09:10] <C-O-L-T> albacker: But I have a question, the last one:). If I have KDE and GNOME too can I access from GNOME my KDE programs, so can I see them in the Start menu or whatever it has GNOME?
[09:10] <sas171> Jowi: ithernet, but i think that my modem is ok. I was using ubuntu before and all was perfect but now i have kubuntu installed and have the trouble, so i think its strictly config error...
[09:10] <techone> Seveas, perhaps this next-current problem ties into the other missing files issues I had with firefox and nautilus and locales and lost video config
[09:10] <afief> polpak: yes, very simple code i used to run on turbo C. college homeworks
[09:10] <robzon> ok, i'm gonna ask once again, cause I got cut off the internet last time I asked ;) I'm downgrading from dapper to breezy and apt-get cannot install A LOT of packages, because of broken dependencies: it has the correct version installed, but it says that a newer one "is to be installed".. anyone knows how to fix this?
[09:10] <albacker> C-O-L-T, you can edit your start menu.. but you can have problem by running kde programs under gnome; i had problems when running amaroK :S
[09:10] <Jowi> sas171: yep, i'm sure it works fine since you can connect with pon. but it's annoying :)
[09:10] <phlaegel> anybody done an update from hoary to breezy while running slapd? mine won't finish configuring
[09:10] <polpak> afief, If you pastebin the file, I'll debug it for you
[09:11] <Jowi> sas171: sorry, can't find a thing.
[09:11] <mwe> C-O-L-T: if you install menu-xdg you'll get a common menu
[09:11] <idefix_> what is the dmesg | less command for?
[09:11] <rich-> Install error: It gets to about 40% installing core packages and then i get this -
[09:11] <rich-> Base system installation error (return value 1)
[09:11] <rich-> check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details
[09:11] <rich-> <go back> <continue>
[09:11] <sas171> Jowi: ok, thank you for help
[09:11] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, well I don't know what got messed up if your on for a reinstall it will mean that you are starting from a clean base and you will learn more every time around, however it should be fixable but I don't know enough about what is broken, if it is a bit of a saga maybe putting it in a pastebin might help someone diagnose it, but onthe info available I can't go much further
[09:11] <afief> polpak: but i don't think it's the file. spy_ gave me a simple main(){return 0;} code of his and it didn't work either
[09:11] <Jowi> sas171: just change the ipv6 back again to be on the safe side, ok
[09:11] <idefix_> !dmesg
[09:11] <ubotu> Wish i knew, idefix_
[09:11] <polpak> idefix_, dmesg will show you what hardware was configured by the kernel on boot
[09:11] <mwe> C-O-L-T: that way you don't have to edit anything. you'll get a menu that's visible in all window managers (well almost all wms)
[09:12] <zool2005> does anyone else have trouble opening jpg files?
[09:12] <mwe> zool2005: not really
[09:12] <C-O-L-T> albacker: ok I will try. Really my last question is that how long is GNOME i mean how much disk space requires. My Kubuntu partition is just 7 gb and I have just 4 gb free space
[09:12] <idefix_> polpak, so it should be in the long list you get when starting up your PC?
[09:12] <mwe> zool2005: display foobar.jpg works just fine here
[09:12] <rich-> Anyone?
[09:12] <zAo^> C-O-L-T, I think < 1GB
[09:12] <zool2005> mwe, I can't open jpg files, nautilus wants me to change ext. to jpeg
[09:12] <idefix_> I'm just trying to get my webcam working under linux using http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/hardware.shtml
[09:12] <sas171> Jowi: what file was it again?
[09:13] <polpak> afief, well I can't help unless I can see the file, and the errors
[09:13] <idefix_> okok, so you have to spend a lot of time here helping other people before you are helped yourself?!
[09:13] <techone> ok check out these messages http://pastebin.ca/35893
[09:13] <mwe> zool2005: that's a nautilus problem I guess. I don't use nautilus, sorry
[09:13] <Jowi> sas171: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases "alias net-pf-10 ipv6"
[09:13] <polpak> afief, but gcc works fine for me
[09:13] <zool2005> anyone have any ideas?
[09:13] <afief> !pastebin
[09:13] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:13] <sas171> Jowi: thx
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, Part of my problem is that just like you said, I'll learn more every time around, and I haven't been around very many times, so I don't know much about what I'm looking for.  In other words, I would if I could, but I don't even know what to paste.  I can describe the behavior, but don't know what files to check.
[09:13] <albacker> C-O-L-T, apt-cache show ubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <slick> !ati
[09:13] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:13] <techone> it complains of a I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 several times
[09:14] <mwe> afief: pastebin your .c file as well a the errors you get
[09:14] <Terrasque> idefix_, I answer questions when I feel like. It's nothing personal :p
[09:14] <techone> wait a minute isnt that the floppy
[09:14] <albacker> C-O-L-T, that shows some information about the ubuntu-desktop, about the packages it will install and its size.
[09:14] <mwe> afief: or go to ##c or #gcc
[09:14] <slick> !mc
[09:14] <ubotu> slick: What?
[09:14] <polpak> Seveas, why doesn't ubotu point people to the Starter Guide for Breezy to install the nvidia and ati drivers?
[09:14] <albacker> C-O-L-T, and asking is a very good thing, asking is the fastest way for learning :) .
[09:14] <mwe> !info mc
[09:14] <slick> why isnt there an MC package ?
[09:14] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[09:14] <rich-> Please help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6663
[09:14] <C-O-L-T> albacker: It is 1 GB I will install it.
[09:14] <albacker> C-O-L-T, good :)
[09:15] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I will leave my pc turned on and It will install it
[09:15] <e_machinist> Hey quick q. Should I install a firewall on Ubuntu?
[09:15] <C-O-L-T> albacker: how I install it?
[09:15] <slick> apt-get install mc says cant find it
[09:15] <kameron> e_machinist: customize iptables to your liking.
[09:15] <Jowi> e_machinist: no and yes
[09:15] <albacker> C-O-L-T,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:15] <kremonte> slick: do you have universe enabled?
[09:15] <Jowi> e_machinist: if you feel you need one: firestarter
[09:15] <polpak> e_machinist, it isn't nessicary unless you both want to use a daemon service, and want to restrict access to the daemon to specific networks
[09:15] <albacker> slick, try apt-cache searc  before trying to download a package 'apt-cache search mc'
[09:16] <purpleheart_USMC> Can you use an ubuntu box as a firewall and a lamp server?
[09:16] <C-O-L-T> albacker: but i want to install GNOME not ubuntu I have KUBUNTU. And I want to chose between desktops so KDE or GNOME
[09:16] <polpak> e_machinist, by default ubuntu has no daemon services that listen to the outside world, therefore it doesn't need firewall rules configured
[09:16] <albacker> slick, apt-cache search mc            **
[09:16] <techone> ok wierd I put the floppy back in the drive and tried to save a file from web page to home and the save dialog just disappears. checking tail messages shows on new entery,
[09:16] <techone> Jan  5 15:13:06 localhost -- MARK --
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> e_machinist, At first I was told I didn't need one for normal use, now I'm looking into fun toys over networks like remote desktop access, so now I'm told Firestarter's good.
[09:16] <techone> what the hell doe shtat mean
[09:16] <e_machinist> polpak: oh, I didn't know that... learn something new every day.
[09:16] <Jowi> C-O-L-T: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:17] <rich-> Install help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6663
[09:17] <e_machinist> tonyyarusso: I'll look into firestarter
[09:17] <C-O-L-T> albacker: ?
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, Shall I describe what I do know?
[09:17] <blaat> when i try to compile mplayer i get the error "X11 support required for GUI compilation". I'm searching 4 hours now but i can't find the ubuntu package who fix this error
[09:17] <blaat> is er someone who no's this error?
[09:17] <polpak> e_machinist, however if you install a daemon and only want specific people to access it.. use a firewall
[09:17] <albacker> C-O-L-T, ubuntu-desktop installs gnome.. ubuntu-desktop says its desktop of ubuntu.. and ubuntu uses gnome.. so its gnome
[09:17] <john__> Anyone...if I installed grub to my linux partition and that was on the 2nd partition of the first drive at the beginning of the partition, would it be hd0,2
[09:17] <john__> ?
[09:17] <albacker> C-O-L-T, belive me, and the other guys !
[09:18] <rich-> hd0,1 i believe
[09:18] <e_machinist> polpak: yah... a daemon such as a file and print sharer or something?
[09:18] <john__> hd0 is the first drive yes?
[09:18] <techone> ubuntu desktop is gnome + ubuntu desktop choices
[09:18] <afief> polpak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6667 but i guess checking on spy_'s file would be easier(shorter) as the problem seems to be the same
[09:18] <john__> then the 1 means 2nd partition?
[09:18] <rich-> yes
[09:18] <techone> as in customized for ubuntu
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> john_, What rich- said.  Always take what seems intuitive and subtract one, from both parts, for grub.
[09:18] <C-O-L-T> albacker: But when I am starting Kubuntu at splash screen I will have the opportunity to choose between them right? And it won't delete my KDE packages
[09:18] <C-O-L-T> ??
[09:18] <john__> so the last number does not mean beginning or end of the partition?
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> C-O-L-T, Correct.
[09:18] <rich-> just which partition
[09:18] <john__> okso hd0,1
[09:18] <rich-> first starting with 0
[09:19] <C-O-L-T> ok
[09:19] <mwe> grub is weird. first partition on the first hd is (hd0,1) ?
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> john_, Yep.
[09:19] <kameron> mwe: yes
[09:19] <C-O-L-T> GUYS I AM INSTALLING GNOME
[09:19] <slick> thx guys
[09:19] <rich-> Install Help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6663
[09:19] <e_machinist> Well, also I'm on dialup... so a firewall would almost be overkill. Haha.
[09:19] <mwe> kameron: I think it doesn't make sense though :)
[09:19] <albacker> C-O-L-T, no it doesnt.
[09:19] <john__> so all agreed that hd0,1 means the 2nd partition on the first drive
[09:19] <kameron> mwe: everything is one short in grub. hda2 would be called hda1 to grub
[09:19] <albacker> C-O-L-T, youll have both KDE and gnome,
[09:19] <afief> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6667
[09:19] <Jowi> mwe, kameron: shouldn't that be (0,0)?
[09:19] <rich-> john__: yes =D
[09:19] <john__> rich-, are you sure now cos this will rape my pc if its wrong
[09:20] <albacker> C-O-L-T, well done :)
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> kameron, Well, really it would be hd(something before a)1
[09:20] <phlaegel> anybody? slapd upgrade problems when going hoary->breezy?
[09:20] <C-O-L-T> albacker: Invalid operation ubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <kameron> you guys know what i mean :P
[09:20] <Jowi> mwe, kameron; hda3 = (hd0,2)
[09:20] <mwe> Jowi: I have forgotten. I haven't used the grub command line in like a few years or so
[09:20] <rich-> john__: it can always be rescued.. and on the question of how sure I am, I've been working with bootloaders for about a week nonstop now =D
[09:20] <john__> rich-, so if my windows install is on the first partition it would be hd0,0
[09:20] <techone> john_, in computers and program zero is the first digit and 1 is the second digit
[09:20] <polpak> afief, ah.. it seems gcc thinks you're trying to compile a c++ file
[09:20] <dawid> okay afief
[09:20] <albacker> C-O-L-T, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:20] <rich-> john__: yes
[09:20] <kameron> (hd0,0) etc
[09:20] <john__> therefore hd0 is the MBR
[09:21] <mwe> Jowi: so hda1 is (hd0,0) it would make more sense at least
[09:21] <albacker> C-O-L-T, you probably did something like apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <idefix_> why am i not highly gifted? :-(
[09:21] <rich-> john__: aka hda1
[09:21] <Jowi> mwe: i'm pretty sure it is
[09:21] <kameron> i use lilo.. i don't deal with grub and it's BS
[09:21] <john__> /dev/hda1
[09:21] <john__> ya?
[09:21] <rich-> yes
[09:21] <afief> polpak: but spy_'s file was C++(I think) and it didn't compile either
[09:21] <rich-> Can anyone help with Install? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6663
[09:21] <john__> rich- u are held responsible ha
[09:21] <john__> gonna try
[09:21] <blaat> when i try to compile mplayer i get the error "X11 support required for GUI compilation". I'm searching 4 hours now but i can't find the ubuntu package who can fix this error. Is there somebody here who can help me out?
[09:21] <albacker> C-O-L-T, did it start ?
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> john_, Yes.  But I think when you're actually trying to write the MBR, you do it to hda, without a number.
[09:21] <rich-> john__: good luck =D
[09:21] <brian_> anyone have any ideas why mount doesnt find my iso?
[09:21] <thegladiator> lil handles multiple OS ?
[09:21] <C-O-L-T> albacker: yes
[09:21] <polpak> afief, can you show me his?
[09:21] <idefix_> why is it hda1 and hdb2?? isn't the desciption kind of double? ab, and 12... ??
[09:21] <kameron> kind of like.. any programming i do, i skip the first element of an array, so i don't have to think about how 0 is actually the first instance
[09:22] <rich-> yes, MBR would be only hda
[09:22] <C-O-L-T> albacker: i hope that i don't have to stay in front of it
[09:22] <dawid> afief how long was i gone?
[09:22] <PuMpErNiCkEl> woo
[09:22] <mwe> Jowi: if it's (hd0,1) I'll post an angry complaint to the athors saying it doesn't make any sense :)
[09:22] <techone> john_, no hd0 is not the master boot record. but the MBR will be stored on hd0,0 along with / and possibly everything else but swap partition
[09:22] <afief> polpak: i posted it at the begining of the patebin. you should have spy_'s file and mine
[09:22] <albacker> C-O-L-T, why should you ?
[09:22] <brian_> anyone have any ideas why mount doesnt find my iso?
[09:23] <polpak> afief, oh
[09:23] <polpak> afief, his is wrong
[09:23] <afief> dawid: you=spy_? half an hour i think, but time sense isn't something i'm good at
[09:23] <mwe> brian_: because you're not typing the correct name for.
[09:23] <rich-> Can anyone help with an install error? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6663
[09:23] <polpak> afief, lemme double check
[09:23] <dawid> yes dawid = spy
[09:23] <C-O-L-T> albacker: no I don't want to stay in front of it because here is 22:53 East European Time - Romania, and tomorrow is school :)
[09:23] <dawid> hehe changed my user thingy this time
[09:23] <Jowi> mwe: :)
[09:23] <idefix_> rich- MBR is a superior linux-version?
[09:23] <brian_> mwe: i have it names disk1.iso, its in mtn/iso, and i follow ubuntus instructions to the T with everything from locations to iso name
[09:23] <C-O-L-T> albacker: it asked from me my Kubuntu CD
[09:23] <aba-> is there a way to disable the agpgart driver before the kernel loads it?
[09:24] <albacker> C-O-L-T, here is 21:24 :)
[09:24] <dawid> well 30mins for a full-install isnt bad (internet not DVD)
[09:24] <albacker> C-O-L-T, put it, it might need any package that is into the CD
[09:24] <polpak> afief, you can't put code on the end of an include line
[09:24] <mwe> rich-: My guess would be a bad cd. check the log file it mentions though
[09:24] <rich-> idefix_: MBR = Master Boot Record
[09:24] <C-O-L-T> albacker: where are you from?
[09:24] <C-O-L-T> Al\
[09:24] <john__> ok guys, im following the wiki guide to get back grub but after typing root (hd0,1) in the grub terminal I get "filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83??
[09:24] <C-O-L-T> albacker: hungary?
[09:24] <afief> polpak: okay, i don't do that on a normal day anyway:)
[09:24] <rich-> mwe: first time with this distro.. at the boot: how do i get to #?
[09:24] <polpak> afief, if you move int main to the next line below the include and recompile it it should work
[09:25] <kremonte> any idea why i'm getting this? "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:25] <kremonte> " i've just set up my 2me monitor, with twinview, and glx is enabled in modules sections
[09:25] <albacker> C-O-L-T, Albania
[09:25] <odat> hi everyone
[09:25] <polpak> afief, leme check your code then
[09:25] <techone> john_, and others it may help to clarify that hda1 and hd0,0 are the same thing by pointing out that those references are in essence two different languages used to describe the same HD like greek and chinese
[09:25] <brian_> mwe: sudo mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/iso
[09:25] <brian_>  should work right?
[09:25] <mwe> brian_: you know ISO1 is different from iso1, right?
[09:25] <brian_> mwe: yea
[09:25] <vk> what to write in cosole to remove a foler?
[09:25] <vk> folder
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> vk: rmdir
[09:25] <brian_> mwe: I copied the name form the file
[09:25] <mwe> brian_: what's the error you get?
[09:25] <vk> tnx
[09:25] <john__> techone_did you see my previous message about grub root line
[09:25] <odat> i have a machine that has severe file system problems   won't even boot    whats the best way to try and fix it
[09:25] <C-O-L-T> albacker: Oh I thought Hungary, I began to be so happy, because I am hungarian. Probably you have heard about Trianon and the Transilvania story
[09:25] <afief> polpak: moved the int main to the next line. still have what looks like the same problem
[09:26] <brian_> mwe: disk1.iso: No such file or directory
[09:26] <techone> john_, I hate grub and lilo - I never mess with either
[09:26] <techone> ;^)
[09:26] <rich-> mwe: first time with this distro.. at the boot: how do i get to #?
[09:26] <mwe> brian_: and the iso file is located in you working directory?
[09:26] <brian_> mwe: yea
[09:26] <albacker> C-O-L-T,  Ive heard Transilvania, but i dont know any story about it
[09:26] <rich-> so i can mount and read logs
[09:26] <techone> I just know enough to be dangerous and so I stay away from such delicate arcane language
[09:26] <mwe> rich-: ask in the channel. I think alt-f2 but Im not sure
[09:26] <dawid> and what is the prob afief?
[09:27] <rich-> mwe: rgr
[09:27] <afief> dawid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6667
[09:27] <polpak> afief, what is the output of gcc -v ?
[09:27] <odat> i have a machine that has severe file system problems   won't even boot    whats the best way to try and fix it
[09:27] <Kindred> brian_, have you made a dir called iso in mnt?
[09:27] <jabra> any guys i have a sata hd and i needa get it booting windows properly. Do i just need to rebuild the kernel with SATA support?
[09:28] <brian_> Kindred: yep mkdir /mnt/iso
[09:28] <definity> whats the linux vertion of NBTSTAT
[09:28] <definity> ?
[09:28] <polpak> afief, try compiling the simple file with g++ isntead of gcc
[09:28] <jabra> well linux is booting ok but the partitions aren't unknown
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> jabra, What kernel do you have?  The default worked for SATA for me.
[09:28] <jabra> hmm
[09:28] <jabra> one sec
[09:28] <jabra> Linux dante 2.6.12-9-386
[09:28] <Kindred> brian_, i've never mounted an iso myself but i'm pretty sure you are missing some parameters there.. let me see
[09:28] <albacker> C-O-L-T, there is #ubuntu.hu channel for hungarian people [i think] 
[09:28] <mwe> brian_: I don't know. can you tab complete the name of the iso file? like sudo mount -o loop dis<tab> /mnt/iso
[09:28] <C-O-L-T> albacker: Transilvania once belonged to Hungary 100 years ago was still a Hungarian territory, and after the First World War Hungary lost in the war and their territories were taken by other nations, 50 % by its territories and 30% of its people were taken by Romania / Slovakia / Serbia / Austria /
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> jabra: Are you sure it's a recognition issue and not a mounting one?  (Not sure where we're starting from here.)
[09:29] <afief> polpak: wroked. got a.out in the folder, but it doesn't run
[09:29] <brian_> mwe: sudo mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/iso/
[09:29] <dawid> whats that command to install a .deb? kpg or somehting?
[09:29] <jabra> k fdisk tells me the device partitions are unkown
[09:29] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I forgot Ucraine and Croatia
[09:29] <polpak> afief, does it give an error when you run it?
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> dawid, dpkg -i
[09:29] <brian_> mwe: I followed this to a T https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManageDiscImages
[09:29] <mwe> brian_: that's with tab completion? and it still says no such file?
[09:29] <brian_> mwe yea
[09:29] <definity> is ther a program that can map a network graphicly atall?
[09:30] <definity> is ther a program that can map a network graphicly atall?
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> dawid, Maybe then.
[09:30] <mwe> definity: don't repeat
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> definity, Yeah, look under Places.
[09:30] <afief> polpak: sorry, wrong file. worked fine. but is there a way i can debug my program, like setting watches and all this fancy stuff?
[09:30] <vk> im running ubuntu on a laptop with mobility radeon grapics, X uses the driver "ati"  is that correct? it feels so slow
[09:30] <mwe> brian_: It should work. I have no idea why it says no such file
[09:30] <polpak> afief, gdb
[09:30] <thegladiator> test
[09:30] <polpak> afief, were you able to compile your program?
[09:31] <jabra> anyone have any ideas?
[09:31] <dawid> tony ?
[09:31] <polpak> afief, also, I noted you used sudo gcc in the pastebin. Don't do that.
[09:31] <brian_> mwe: even if rename it , it doesnt work
[09:31] <definity> there is no places
[09:31] <afief> polpak: yes, it compiled to a.out and ran just fine. so don't i have to do anything about gcc?
[09:31] <dawid> ubotu repositories
[09:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> dawid, Sorry, just realized the above was misdirected.
[09:31] <jabra> http://pastebin.com/492303
[09:31] <techone> ok then, in breezy badger which fsck.-----  should I use to do a surface scan repair and mark out bad sectors?
[09:31] <dawid> ubotu repositories universal
[09:31] <ubotu> dawid: Syntax error in line 1
[09:31] <afief> polpak: sudo gcc was only because i got the errors and thought this might fix them
[09:31] <vk> anyone who knows the correct driver for mobilityradeon?
[09:31] <polpak> vk, you need to install the ATI driver help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> !universe
[09:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:32] <polpak> afief, I find that somewhat surprising.. I got an error about conio.h not existing
[09:32] <Zalamander> Hello
[09:32] <vk> polpak, is that the same procedure as for radeon 9600?
[09:32] <darkritual> how do i fix this:
[09:32] <polpak> vk, yes
[09:32] <darkritual> darkritual@DarkRitual:/usr/local/games/armyops$ sh ./armyops
[09:32] <darkritual> ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:32] <mwe> brian_: it's really weird
[09:32] <polpak> vk, any radeon should use that
[09:32] <Zalamander> Does Ubuntu come with a configurator application for setting up dialup?
[09:32] <vk> polpak, tnx alot
[09:32] <mwe> brian_: I wish I could be more helpful but it just doesn't make sense to me
[09:33] <brian_> mwe: yea it makes no sense at all
[09:33] <C-O-L-T> I AM BACK
[09:33] <brian_> mwe: what do you suggest i do
[09:33] <brian_> mwe: is their an iso mounting program i can try?
[09:33] <Belboz99> Hey, anyone have any idea what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6662
[09:33] <robzon> libgnome2-0: Depends: libgnome2-common (= 2.12.0.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.13.4-0ubuntu1 is to be installed <- anyone knows how to deal with this error?
[09:33] <Kindred> brian_, try sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 disk1.iso /mnt/iso
[09:33] <mwe> brian_: I don't know. maybe sudo -s to get a root prompt then try again. I doubt it'll work though. also use tab completion for the name
[09:33] <kameron> brian_: just mount the iso in an appropriate filesystem
[09:33] <Kindred> brian_, your iso is named disk1.iso right...
[09:34] <polpak> afief, also clrscr and getche aren't defined
[09:34] <mwe> Kindred: the weird thing is it says no such file
[09:34] <polpak> afief, where did you get conio.h from?
[09:34] <Kindred> uhh I think he might be taking the example a bit too literally
[09:34] <afief> polpak: yes i have the same error. when i compile Q4. but right now i don't need them i guess
[09:34] <brian_> Kindred: yep, and same error
[09:34] <Kindred> unless the iso really is called disk1.iso
[09:34] <brian_> kameron: how?
[09:34] <afief> polpak: they came with Turbo C, which is from borland i guess. they aren't in VC++ either
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> Any guesses how long an install over internet might take using wireless at a public library in the US?  (Breezy, don't know how much is new since the ShipIt disk.)
[09:35] <polpak> afief, ah
[09:35] <brian_> mwe:whats tab completion
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I have a simple question again
[09:35] <polpak> afief, not standard C or posix functions
[09:35] <jenda_> Please... how do I find out the PID of a particular process in CLI?
[09:35] <polpak> afief, if you stick with posix you'll do alright
[09:35] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: wireless? are you mad? :P
[09:35] <mwe> brian_: type half the name then press tab to complete it
[09:35] <fmasi> some one uses wengoPhone and could help me ?
[09:35] <dawid> afeif : CLRSCR and READLN and those arent Standard and thus u will have to download a library for em
[09:35] <kameron> brian_: mkisofs -J -R -o filename.iso /some/directory
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> albacker: does exists a kind of Shutdown Expert for Linux?
[09:35] <mwe> brian_: ie dis<tab>
[09:35] <albacker> C-O-L-T, sure, go on
[09:35] <polpak> jenda, ps -auwx | grep processname
[09:35] <jenda_> thanks
[09:35] <polpak> jenda_, actually don't put the dash
[09:35] <afief> polpak: what is the standard clear screen function?
[09:35] <mwe> brian_: if it can't you're trying to type the wrong name
[09:35] <polpak> jenda_, it's deprecated
[09:36] <jenda_> ok
[09:36] <polpak> afief, there isn't a "standard" way to do it.
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Umm, maybe.  It would be better than the dialup I have at home.  I did it before at school where I have DSL, but I'm home right now and used one of our other computers to back up files, and I'd like to do it while I still have access to it.
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: How bad of an idea is it?
[09:36] <polpak> afief, if you are going to write console apps you need to look at the ncurses library
[09:36] <albacker> C-O-L-T, shutdown expert ?
[09:36] <C-O-L-T> albacker: i mean I can make a schedule that my pc turns on in the night than after finishing it turns out
[09:36] <afief> polpak: ncurses? where do i find that?
[09:36] <polpak> afief, or for an easy hack you can just loop and output 100 or so newlines
[09:37] <jenda_> polpak: oi... I need to do that from tty2 to tty7... how do I specify?
[09:37] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I forgot to write that downloads something and than turns of
[09:37] <john__> how do i read my kernel version?
[09:37] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: if you have a nice connection you should be alright, but from my experience, wireless can become useless and drop connection in a matter of seconds that's all :)
[09:37] <mwe> john__: uname -r
[09:37] <albacker> you can use anacron i think
[09:37] <afief> polpak: i think 80 was the right number for it:)
[09:37] <polpak> afief, http://dickey.his.com/ncurses/ncurses-intro.html
[09:37] <fmasi> how do i kill all soud server so only one program can use it
[09:37] <afief> polpak: nope, 80 chars per line, about 25 lines or so
[09:37] <brian_> mwe: it tabs, but still says that
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Hmm.  Any tricks that might help me, or any way to recover from your problem?
[09:37] <vk> can someone where i find the repositores file?
[09:37] <C-O-L-T> albacker: a download manager that turns off my pc after finishing the download
[09:38] <odat> i have a machine that has severe file system problems   won't even boot    whats the best way to try and fix it
[09:38] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: heh, not really. just cross your fingers!
[09:38] <aba-> is there a way to disable the agpgart driver before the kernel loads it?
[09:38] <afief> polpak: do you think i'll be able to run Turbo C here? my work will be checked on it
[09:38] <brian_> mwe: im actually copying the name from the directory
[09:38] <albacker> C-O-L-T, you can make something like this  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; shutdown -h now                 << means that after downloading & installing it will turn off you PC
[09:38] <C-O-L-T> albacker: something like Kget but it turns off my computer after finishing the download
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> Jowi, All right!
[09:38] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: oh, and sacrifice a goat around midnight
[09:38] <brian_> mwe: im actually copying the name from the directory
[09:38] <joey222> Jowi u still kicking about
[09:38] <mwe> brian_: what?
[09:38] <Jowi> joey222: lol, my head is spinning
[09:38] <albacker> C-O-L-T, but keeping your computer on doesnt damage  :)
[09:38] <polpak> afief, if you wanted to use ncurses you'll need to sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev
[09:38] <Kindred> brian_ what is the name of the iso?..
[09:39] <joey222> got 5.10 in Jowi
[09:39] <Jowi> joey222: congrats. working well?
[09:39] <brian_> Kindred:disk1.iso
[09:39] <C-O-L-T> albacker: everybody says this but I want to turn off my computer. I don't wan't to leave it to work all night and all day
[09:39] <albacker> eni@madgeek:~$ uptime
[09:39] <afief> polpak: i think i would prefer turbo C, is that available for linux? though it's age old
[09:39] <albacker>  21:39:33 up 1 day,  9:26,  6 users,  load average: 1.35, 1.44, 1.59
[09:39] <joey222> well just finishing the install
[09:39] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: I'll start looking for the goat.
[09:39] <albacker> C-O-L-T, do like i said you.
[09:39] <polpak> afief, I'm pretty sure it's not
[09:40] <joey222> installing remaining packages
[09:40] <e_machinist> How can I run Firestarter without having to do so in a terminal window (cause then when I kill off the terminal it kills the firewall).
[09:40] <e_machinist> ?
[09:40] <C-O-L-T> albacker: so i can make that after it has downloaded ubuntu-desktop it shuts down my computer?
[09:40] <brian_> Kindred:disk1.iso
[09:40] <brian_> Kindred:oops, sorry
[09:40] <odat> e_machinist, you should have  a menu item for it
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> Can I put a space between entries in a grub menu?  (I want to separate the normal two things to boot from recovery options, backup kernels, etc., so my family isn't confused.)
[09:40] <albacker> C-O-L-T, if you use apt-get do this; apt-get install packageName; shutdown -h now           if you are downloading something from somewhere do like this :     wget http://somesite.com/package; shutdown -h now
[09:40] <mjr> afief, nope. Though if you're so inclined, xwpe is a turbo-c-like IDE. Would recommend learning new tricks tho.
[09:41] <e_machinist> odat: a menu item?
[09:41] <polpak> mjr, the problem isn't the IDE, it's the includes etc
[09:41] <albacker> C-O-L-T, yes .. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; sudo shutdown -h now
[09:41] <polpak> mjr, there's no conio.h on linux
[09:41] <Belboz99> anyone know if it's OK to add an unstable debian apt repository to install a single package?
[09:41] <odat> e_machinist, in the applications menu under system tools
[09:41] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: yes, that's no problem.
[09:41] <afief> mjr: for me any compiler/ide would do. but those damn college professors seem to have an affair with turbo C
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: How?
[09:41] <C-O-L-T> albacker: but now I can not write to the Konsole because now it is working downloading the gnome, now i can not do it right?
[09:41] <blue-frog> Belboz99, u will know if it's ok if it works without breaking things...
[09:41] <john__> why cany i open my installed menu.lst file in gedit from the ubuntu live cd? all i get is gtk-WARNING cannot open display
[09:42] <john__> cny=cant
[09:42] <polpak> afief, tell them that you can't afford windows, and don't want the enheirant security risks
[09:42] <Belboz99> lol, thanks blue-frog :P
[09:42] <e_machinist> odat: I ran the firestarter wizard... but it didn't create a gnome menu item. And I am required to run firestarter as root (sudo).
[09:42] <polpak> afief, if they want to compile your programs on their windows boxes they can download and install (free of charge) cygwin
[09:42] <albacker> C-O-L-T, stop it by doing ctrl+c, than type the command again, and the download will start where it was !
[09:42] <punkrockguy318> Hey, I'm running dapper, and I've been running gtkpod from source... There was an update and I'm now getting this error message:
[09:42] <punkrockguy318> libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:42] <odat> e_machinist, log out then log back in sometimes you have to do that in order to get programs to show up in the menu
[09:42] <jabra> ok so the issue is with booting windows with sata
[09:42] <e_machinist> odat:  will do.
[09:42] <punkrockguy318> I recompiled and I got the same error.. what should I do?
[09:42] <john__> ANYONE know how to paste in nano?
[09:42] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: title (newline) root (newline). think that should do it.
[09:43] <brian_> Kindred: any  ideas?
[09:43] <jabra> anyone setup grub to boot an SATA partition?
[09:43] <afief> polpak: in this country, pirated software is the norm and original stuff is the VERY exception. i have windows here too, but too lazy to change all the time. also want to get my linux skills up
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so this time around I was smart enough to put /home on a separate partition.  However, I have since acquired quite large /music and /movies that I didn't have before.  Any way I can make those be separate partitions before a reinstall so I don't loose them?
[09:43] <vk> howto add repositores?
[09:43] <techone> which files system is badger using ext3 reiserfs or something else?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Okay, will try that.
[09:43] <dawid> ubotu ubuntu guide
[09:43] <ubotu> dawid: No idea
[09:43] <C-O-L-T> albacker: but i want to copy your ideas in order to not to forget and to not to ask again
[09:43] <CptS> hi, how do i make a module load at startup? i found the right module for my soundcard and it works, but it want it to run when ubuntu starts
[09:43] <mjr> polpak, righto; strange professors to insist on non-standard C
[09:43] <Kindred> brian_, i'm really not sure sorry, it seems you've covered everything I can think of
[09:43] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, they are all on a separate parrtitoin?
[09:43] <polpak> mjr, agreed
[09:43] <john__> anyone know how to paste into nano in terminal?
[09:43] <tsume> is there a way to write to ntfs?
[09:44] <polpak> afief, if you just use C standards you should't have any problems
[09:44] <brian_> Kindred: is their a program for linux like daemon tools that i can try out?
[09:44] <techone> john_, whats nano
[09:44] <Kindred> john_, ctrl shift v
[09:44] <john__> terminal editor
[09:44] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: you have a spare HDD laying around or enough space on /home ?
[09:44] <polpak> afief, but you won't be able to do stuff w/ conio.h
[09:44] <john__> text editor
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, No, that's the problem.  Right now the two media ones are just part of the / partition, but I'd like to isolate them beforehand.
[09:44] <polpak> afief, you'll have to use stdio instead
[09:44] <john__> kindred, does that work in nano?
[09:44] <albacker> C-O-L-T, ok, write them somewhere,. but you'll learn more during time.. belive me. now just do what people here say and youll start to understand and remember :)
[09:44] <techone> which files system is badger using ext3 reiserfs or something else?
[09:44] <Kindred> john_, sure that's why I said it
[09:44] <C-O-L-T> albacker: i see
[09:45] <afief> polpak: well, i don't mind conio.h if i can find simple replacements for some functions(clearscreen, getcharacter...etc)
[09:45] <Tomcat_> techone: Breezy uses ext3 by default
[09:45] <mjr> polpak, there's a "linux-conio.h" which you might or might not find helpful and that I don't know anything more about at http://www.gerald-friedland.de/projects.html
[09:45] <john__> kindred, do you know how to select all?
[09:45] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, using a livecd u should be able to resize /
[09:45] <CptS> someone? how do i make a module load at startup? i found the right module for my soundcard and it works, but it want it to run when ubuntu starts
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: I do have a spare desktop computer, and backed the entire disk up to it with rsync last night.  So, if necessary, I can get stuff back from that, but it takes a little while.  Was wondering if there's a better way.
[09:45] <polpak> afief, you can't do clear screen. But all the getchar stuff is in stdio.h
[09:45] <Tomcat_> CptS: /etc/modules
[09:45] <polpak> afief, and better still, it's standards compliant
[09:45] <vk> anoone who knows in which file i should add reposiores?
[09:45] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: i don't really know of a simple way
[09:45] <john__> kindred, I need to select all, delete and paste that all i need
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, Why would it need to be a live CD?
[09:45] <Tomcat_> CptS: Just put it in there
[09:45] <john__> kindred, and dont know how to lol
[09:45] <CptS> Tomcat_: what do i put there? i need to load snd-sb16 module.
[09:46] <polpak> afief, just write your own clear screen function that output's a page of newlines
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Okay, just thought it was worth asking.
[09:46] <kameron> brian_: i took off for a minute. how's it going?
[09:46] <Tomcat_> CptS: Just make a new line at the end and put "snd-sb16" in there.
[09:46] <BearHunter> can i use ubuntu as a "live cd" for a server environment?
[09:46] <CptS> Tomcat_: thanks. trying.
[09:46] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: maybe resize a partition, make a new one and copy the stuff over to it?
[09:46] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso,  cause i don't know how u can unmount / when u run linux... ask someoone if they know how to do it
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, Ah, point.
[09:46] <techone> [4294668.305000]  PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a report
[09:46] <techone> [4294668.307000]  spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7.
[09:46] <techone> [4294668.325000]  pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x400-0x47f could not be reserved
[09:47] <afief> polpak , mjr: xwpe looks nice, but the run and compile commands just give me empty windows
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Would that be any faster really than rsync over a direct crossover ethernet cable connection?
[09:47] <techone> whats with   spurious 8259A interrupt
[09:47] <brian_> kameron: no luck at all, tried everything, all the names and syntax are perfect, im hoping i can find a prog like daemon tools that i can use
[09:47] <vk> where should i type if i want to add repositores,, PLEASE HELP ME
[09:47] <thegladiator> hi
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> !tell vk about sources
[09:47] <e_machinist> Man... firestarter is blocking tons of stuff...
[09:47] <blue-frog> vk synaptic
[09:47] <kameron> biran, did you try: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/recovering.html
[09:48] <Jowi> tonyyarusso: not really. i think that a direct copy is faster.
[09:48] <afief> polpak , mjr: the file with conio.h, but i don't even get the an error
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> e_machinist, It did that for me on dialup too.  Mostly from your ISP's other addresses?
[09:48] <kameron> brian_ oooops, wrong paste, hah
[09:48] <e_machinist> Microsoft-ds... DCOM-scm... etc.
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> Jowi: Okay, I'll see what I can finagle.
[09:48] <e_machinist> tonyyarusso: ISPs other addresses? hmmmm..
[09:48] <slick> I installed the ati fglrx according to wiki but if I try to load it I get this: duplicate symbol rol_long in /usr/bin/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.o any suggestions?
[09:48] <thegladiator> suddenly i am gettnig no webistes ...
[09:48] <kameron> brian_: did you try... this: mkisofs -J -R -o filename.iso /some/directory
[09:48] <thegladiator> what cud be the reason ?
[09:48] <thegladiator> irc is working but
[09:48] <Jowi> !tell vk about repositories
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> e_machinist, Try whoising them.
[09:48] <e_machinist> tonyyarusso: good idea.
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, I know that's not a real word...
[09:49] <nmsa> hello
[09:49] <nmsa> need some help with cups ...
[09:49] <thegladiator> can anyone here me ?
[09:49] <nmsa> localhost:631 user/passwd = ?
[09:49] <joey222> Jowi, Installing packes has stalled at 5%
[09:49] <afief> polpak , mjr: nevermind, looks like they just forgot a redraw call for the messeges window:D thank you people. you are the best
[09:49] <joey222> Downloading file 851 of 852 (0s remaining)
[09:49] <brian_> kameron: its doing something, but i dunno what
[09:49] <BearHunter> Can i use ubuntu as a "live cd" for a server environment?
[09:49] <e_machinist> tonyyarusso: yah, looks like ISP related stuff... but... why are they doing that?
[09:50] <vk> tnx, but i want to add them (the repositores) by typing in a textfile, ive done it before but forgotten where to finde the textfile,,, anyoone who knows where i can find it?
[09:50] <techone> I keep getting this message during boot - [4294674.818000]  swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature?
[09:50] <techone>   uh how can I turn off suspend to disk
[09:50] <kameron> brian_: don't bother looking for something like daemon tools. this is how it's done in the linux world. you mount your iso in a cdfs, and read it. simple. clean.
[09:50] <tsume> wtf
[09:50] <tsume> freebsd has some ntfs write access
[09:50] <tsume> why the hell doesn't linux?
[09:50] <Jowi> joey222: okay. nice. erhm...
[09:50] <kameron> tsume: don't even get me started
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> e_machinist, I don't really understand why, but someone tried to explain it to me as firestarter getting confused with the protocol and how stuff works specifically with dialup services.
[09:50] <tsume> some, meaning has every write access except on encrypted folders :)
[09:50] <Jowi> vk: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:50] <tsume> kameron: on what?
[09:51] <tsume> kameron: how lame the ntfs linux team is for not porting the cod?E
[09:51] <[A] ndy80> tsume: wake up.... kernel 2.6.15 has ntfs writing support....
[09:51] <kameron> tsume: why don't we have ntfs write support
[09:51] <Jowi> gotto go for awhile. c u guys
[09:51] <slick> if I use the apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx will it know I need the x686 driver?
[09:51] <kameron> tsume: basically, yeah. there is experimental code, but it doesn't work great.
[09:51] <FarrisG> Can anyone tell me how to figure out why my highpoint (fakeraid) RAID 5 array is seeing better write performance than my 3ware RAID 50?
[09:51] <tsume> [A] ndy80: FreeBSd has had the write code since 4.x
[09:51] <vk> jowi, youre great, tnx
[09:51] <polpak> afief, you should sudo apt-get install manpages-dev to have useful documentation
[09:51] <mmolina> hello
[09:51] <brian_> kameron: ok it ran that program, what does it do?
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <kameron> brian_: oh. well. don't run exactly what i wrote
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <mmolina> hellohello
[09:52] <bluefoxicy> bahahah
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <bluefoxicy> that's awesome
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <tsume> mmolina: stop
[09:52] <kameron> mmolina, stop
[09:52] <bluefoxicy> using video memory as swap
[09:52] <mmolina> hello
[09:52] <brian_> kameron: i changed it to my files
[09:52] <corresponder> hi
[09:52] <tsume> mmolina: ignored, you don't get any help
[09:52] <afief> mmolina: this is the best way not to get hekp!
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> !tell mmolina about bannable
[09:52] <fissy> ping seveas ajmitch
[09:52] <e_machinist> tonyyarusso: I just had the deutsche telecom ISP get blocked... and it registered as a bit torrent type connection.
[09:52] <kameron> brian_: okay, good. so you put something like... mkisofs -J -R -o cd1.iso /home/brian/cd
[09:52] <mmolina> oki
[09:53] <brian_> kameron: yea
[09:53] <e_machinist> I feel... safer now with firestarter and my iptables set up.. haha.
[09:53] <fissy> thanks Seveas :)
[09:53] <brian_> kameron: mkisofs -J -R -o disk1.iso /mnt/iso
[09:53] <afief> polpak: installing, but how do i access it?
[09:53] <BearHunter> Can i use ubuntu as a "live cd" for a server environment?
[09:53] <dsl627> hi everyone
[09:53] <polpak> afief, in console type man getchar
[09:53] <Seveas> BearHunter, live and server sounds weird
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> e_machinist, Sorry, not the one to direct questions about it to.  All I know is what people told me last week when I tried firestarter for the first time.
[09:54] <definity> dose any one know where i can get all the netwoking commandws for ubuntu atall???????
[09:54] <kameron> brian_: oh man i'm confused. ahhh. i'll get back to you very shortly.
[09:54] <afief> polpak: no GUI? i know gui's aren't so important, but they are impressive....
[09:54] <brian_> kameron: ok, I need a smoke anyway
[09:54] <techone> Seveas, if mmolina has no way to make amends and behave then banning only creates barriers for people to learn about ubuntu or even bother trying
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> BearHunter, Presumably you can, but why?
[09:54] <BearHunter> Seveas: OK maybe I shouldn't go down that path then
[09:54] <odat> i'm on the other machine now any know how i run fsck to check the hard drive when i'm running off a live cd
[09:55] <fissy> BearHunter, if you wanted to test setting ubuntu up as a server, maybe using vmware or another virtual computer would be better?
[09:55] <e_machinist> tonyyarusso: you have been helpful none the less. Just watching the event log of firestarter kinda reminds you that the internet is kinda scary.
[09:55] <e_machinist> haha.
[09:55] <kameron> brian_: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[09:55] <polpak> afief, I think there is a manpage viewer gui
[09:55] <polpak> afief, lemme check
[09:55] <polpak> afief, also you might want to check out http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/node18.html#SECTION001800000000000000000
[09:55] <kameron> brian_: that's what i was looking for, i gave you the wrong command
[09:55] <rebeu-bo> hi tout le monde je vie en france y a t-il qlq qui parle francais
[09:55] <blue-frog> ubnutu-fr
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> e_machinist, I was a little bit worried about the half-dozen or so blocked connections for China, that was odd.
[09:55] <polpak> afief, for info on the standard IO functions (rather than the turbo c++ ones)
[09:56] <rebeu-bo> there is some one who speak frensh ????
[09:56] <sas171> do you think i need some extra firewall? i mean there is allready some build-in kernel modul...
[09:56] <BearHunter> I want a server environment that cannot break, ie. you cannot write to a CD-ROM
[09:56] <odat> polpak, whats up?
[09:56] <blue-frog> rebeu-bo, ubuntu-fr
[09:56] <e_machinist> tonyyarusso: yah... I've been on for like... 10 minutes and already 13 serious blocks have occurred. Ridiculous.
[09:56] <polpak> e_machinist, it's a false sens of security, as most of the connections it's blocking your computer wasn't listening for in the first place
[09:56] <rebeu-bo> what is mean
[09:56] <afief> polpak: do you have all this stuff in your head or do you have a flashdrive connected to your neuron network?
[09:56] <blue-frog> rebeu va sur #ubuntu-fr
[09:56] <polpak> afief, I have google, and a lot of it in my head
[09:57] <BearHunter> so if anything goes wrong, you just reboot the cd
[09:57] <rebeu-bo> comment faire stp
[09:57] <mwe> BearHunter: what's makes you think it cannot break if you can't write to it?
[09:57] <e_machinist> polpak: something is better than nothing.
[09:57] <polpak> afief, mostly I just remember how to find things, rather than remembering the things itself
[09:57] <blue-frog> rebeu-bo, /join #ubuntu-fr
[09:57] <brian_> kameron: ok this time it didnt give me the error msg, how can i tell if it worked?
[09:57] <odat> anyone know how i run fsck on a hard drive when i'm running off a live cd
[09:57] <blue-frog> BearHunter, and then u redo all the config...
[09:57] <rebeu-bo> ok merci bq
[09:58] <polpak> odat, I think you just point fsck at the device and it goes
[09:58] <fissy> BearHunter, it could still be broken whilst running. I think making a vmware (or similar) image of your perfect server setup and then backing that up to somewhere would be better. if the running vmware server got broken somewhere, you could load up a fresh copy of your server complete with config
[09:58] <techone> Seveas, please unban mmolina so that they have a chance to learn some etiquet and so that they dont go back to microsoft.   those end users get easily frustrated and humans just want to know they were heard in the forest of noise.
[09:58] <polpak> odat, fsck /dev/hda1 for example
[09:58] <john__> Can anyone help me....i have followed the wiki guide to recovering ubuntu and grub after installing windows, I followed everything but when I try to boot ubuntu I get some error about ext2fs? but my filesystem is ext3?
[09:58] <kameron> brian_: cd /mnt/iso
[09:58] <fissy> BearHunter, or you could do a normal install and make an image of the hard drive
[09:58] <polpak> odat, but you have to know the device and partition number
[09:58] <BearHunter> I am just talking about the system data, the config can be stored on a USB flash drive
[09:58] <odat> polpak, how do i check?
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> odat: You have to get into the hard disk for your working environment, !grub points to a link for recovering Ubuntu after Windows install, the first two sections of that tell you how.
[09:59] <XHK> How can i get acess to my windwos files? I needed some kind of programm for it.
[09:59] <brian_> kameron: ok
[09:59] <BearHunter> There are other live cd server distros out there, i was wondering if Ubuntu would work
[09:59] <blue-frog> BearHunter, in case of reboot u will have to reinstall anythingn u have already did...
[09:59] <kameron> brian_ all good in the hood?
[09:59] <brian_> kameron: I dunno, im not sure if it mounted the iso
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> odat: Or what polpak said if that's all you need, what I said will let you do a lot more, which might not be what you want.
[09:59] <blue-frog> BearHunter, don't put a server on livecd...
[09:59] <kameron> brian_ list the dir?
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> !tell XHK about windowsmounts
[10:00] <mad_phoenix> noob question here...what is the name of group 1000?  users?
[10:00] <blue-frog> admin
[10:00] <e_machinist> pretty sure 1000 is admin
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> !tell XHK about mountwindows
[10:00] <Seveas> mad_phoenix, no it's the same as your username
[10:00] <brian_> kameron: it displayed brian@noname:/mnt/iso$
[10:00] <mad_phoenix> ok...how can i found out which gid's correspond to groupnames?
[10:00] <Seveas> e_machinist, it's not :)
[10:00] <e_machinist> oh wait.
[10:00] <e_machinist> Sorry Seveas
[10:00] <Seveas> mad_phoenix, look in /etc/group
[10:00] <AIV> where is the "my documents folder in Ubuntu"?
[10:00] <e_machinist> Was thinking of local user.
[10:00] <BearHunter> ok thanks guys, i get your point, maybe it's not a good idea, but . . .
[10:00] <mwe> mad_phoenix: sudo vigr would answer that
[10:00] <Seveas> AIV, /home/your_username
[10:00] <vk> can someone help me to install fglrx-driver
[10:00] <fissy> BearHunter, i expect it would work, just seems like weird thing to do
[10:00] <Seveas> !tell vk about ati
[10:00] <kameron> brian_ is there anything in the directory?
[10:01] <AIV> Seveas, thanks
[10:01] <odat> tonyyarusso, its pretty f'd up when i try fsck /dev/hda  it tells me the superblock is bad and to run e2fsck with alternate superblock but that doesn't work either
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> I didn't know there was a program available for automounting...
[10:01] <brian_> kameron: yea my one iso
[10:01] <XHK> ty tonyyarusso
[10:01] <phienox> hello there
[10:01] <techone> Seveas, "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[10:01] <BearHunter> i need a way of backing up and restoring my whole system
[10:01] <vk> seveas, ive tried, but when i type apt-get install fglrx-driver it doesnt work
[10:01] <vk> ive added the reposistories
[10:01] <kameron> bearhunter: dd
[10:01] <phienox> i lost the url where i could update the codects etc through the apt-get/synaptic
[10:01] <odat> tonyyarusso, says something about a bad magic number
[10:01] <phienox> for totem etc
[10:01] <BearHunter> dd?
[10:01] <mwe> mad_phoenix: but it's the group name of the user (and group with the same name) created during boot
[10:02] <kameron> bearhunter: man dd, google it, or something. it's what you want to use.
[10:02] <robertj> anyone here have one of them sissy laptops-in-a-desktop pcs?
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> If anyone's in the development for this area: Do people think Ubuntu will have ntfs write support anytime in the foreseeable future?
[10:02] <phienox> !media
[10:02] <ubotu> phienox: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:02] <odat> tonyyarusso, whats the command for checking my devices?
[10:02] <robertj> I'm looking to replace my desktop wish something whisper quiet
[10:02] <mwe> mad_phoenix: the 'id' command would also answer your question
[10:02] <BearHunter> ok thanks kameron, going to have a look
[10:02] <definity> dose any one know where i can get all the netwoking commandws for ubuntu atall???????
[10:02] <techone> mmolina should have a chance to learn from his mistake. it is the human component here that mmolina tripped over
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> odat: Sorry, my memory's out.
[10:03] <phienox> anyone that can help me out ?
[10:03] <Kindred> !restricted
[10:03] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:03] <mwe> !helpme
[10:03] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:03] <Kindred> phienox you want that
[10:03] <kameron> brian_: i just did this: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso and it worked fine. i listed the directory, all was well. what isn't working for you?
[10:03] <phienox> kindred ?
[10:03] <techone> mmolina may be a moron but we have giude morons out of being morons (I even have my bad days ;^)
[10:03] <phienox> i have reset the synaptic to multiverse and stuff
[10:03] <phienox> still
[10:04] <Seveas> techone, please stop it
[10:04] <mwe> kameron: it also works with a relative path, doesn't it?
[10:04] <phienox> there are win32codecs etc that i need to give chell command to apt-get
[10:04] <amikron_> hi all
[10:04] <DarkPriest> does ny1 know how 2 migrate from GNOME 2 KDE?
[10:04] <brian_> kameron: ok now it does it without givine me an error, and it says nothing after, i dont know if mounted it or not
[10:04] <techone> Seveas, please unban mmolina he doesnt deserve to be shutdown as he was already being told
[10:04] <Seveas> being annoying is not done in here, so mmolina is out. If (s)he wants back in, (s)he can ask
[10:04] <phienox> oh ok thy
[10:05] <mwe> DarkPriest: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <Kindred> phienox, you have to download the w32codecs - check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:05] <brian_> kameron: i dont see it in /ect/fstab
[10:05] <mwe> DarkPriest: wanna unintall gnome as well?
[10:05] <techone> Seveas, please let me know how one can ask to be unbanned if they cannot get into the channel
[10:05] <phienox> kidred it was that i was missing ty kidred
[10:05] <P8ntKid> Is azureus in the repos?
[10:05] <Seveas> techone, he can enter the channel, just muted
[10:05] <dbernar1> P8ntKid: no
[10:05] <DarkPriest> nops..KDE looks more gorgeous thn gnome
[10:05] <kameron> brian_: type mount, then enter, what does it say?
[10:06] <polpak> DarkPriest, that depends on what theme you use
[10:06] <Seveas> techone, and for this kind of off-topic discussions we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <BearHunter> kameron: ok dd doesnt seem to be very newbie friendly . . .
[10:06] <polpak> DarkPriest, my gnome theme looks pretty good
[10:06] <definity> any one know where i can get  a newbies guide to compileing i tryed it and it didnt work  :(
[10:06] <definity> any ideas
[10:06] <dbernar1> what is the vim command for syntax coloring on Ubuntu? Is it :syntax on?
[10:06] <techone> over the years ive been banned from various channels a few times and have not been able to get back in the channel at all
[10:06] <dbernar1> !compiling
[10:06] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[10:06] <mwe> DarkPriest: then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop like I said. to uninstall gnome sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common
[10:06] <polpak> definity, are you trying to write your own program, or compile someone elses?
[10:06] <mrkoje_> dbernar1,  you want the 600 page vim manual from me?
[10:06] <brian_> kameron:/home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)
[10:06] <brian_> /home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop1)
[10:06] <brian_> /home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop2)
[10:06] <brian_> /home/brian/disk1.iso on /mnt/iso type iso9660 (rw,loop=/dev/loop3)
[10:06] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[10:07] <definity> compile someone else like i download the .tar.gz
[10:07] <dbernar1> mrkoje_: who wrote it, and how do I get it?
[10:07] <polpak> !paste
[10:07] <definity> and i need to comile from ther
[10:07] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:07] <kameron> brian_: you mounted it.. serveral times.
[10:07] <DarkPriest> how come people say KDE offers better control and functionality
[10:07] <mrkoje_> dbernar1,  just a second
[10:07] <techone> well until I reset my ips and various things as my buddy runs the isp
[10:07] <kameron> brian_ umount it and do it just once. then you should be able to change to that directory and view it.
[10:07] <BearHunter> basically i want a way to backup my server minus my data (mp3's, video etc) and if something goes wrong, have an easy way to restore the system
[10:07] <stewski> whats the fastest ogg ripper?
[10:08] <mwe> kameron: can't you mount the iso with a relative path?
[10:08] <BearHunter> i will backup my data separately
[10:08] <kameron> BearHunter: basically, dd works like that. dd if=/dev/device/ of=/the/destination
[10:08] <mrkoje_> dbernar1,  http://fc4.ath.cx/vimbook-OPL.pdf
[10:08] <kameron> mwe relative path?
[10:08] <MW|F00d> 8-)
[10:08] <kameron> mwe loopbacks seem to be the standard way to do things
[10:09] <mwe> kameron: yeah like just the file name, provided it's in your workingdir
[10:09] <kameron> mwe e.g./
[10:09] <kameron> ?
[10:09] <corresponder> does someone use a  siemens scenic mobile 510 agp?
[10:09] <ScootaDoota> Bearhunter: what media are you going to use for the backup
[10:09] <definity> any links or guide any one know to compile
[10:09] <dbernar1> k, got it, thanks.
[10:09] <stewski> no hints on a good ogg ripper?
[10:10] <BearHunter> i have an external usb HD
[10:10] <AIV> where does one go to change color themes in Ubuntu?
[10:10] <mwe> kameron: mount -o loop name.iso /mnt/iso
[10:10] <AIV> found it
[10:10] <mrkoje_> AIV,  System >> Preferences >> Themes
[10:10] <rich-> ok, bad errors
[10:10] <AIV> nevermind
[10:10] <mwe> kameron: instead of mount -o loop /home/foobar/name.iso /mnt/iso
[10:10] <AIV> thanks
[10:10] <kameron> mwe: but you need to provide the filesystem type also
[10:11] <yanis> do you have any idea where I can find a deb package for firefox 1.5?
[10:11] <g0ju> anyone knows how to add a city to the gnome weather applet?
[10:11] <mrkoje_> AIV,  If I were you I would download the Gnome-Art package
[10:11] <rich-> when ubuntu loads up.. it goes through all the system checks ... ok stuff then says "configuring base installation" then goes to the install screen again
[10:11] <BearHunter> but i dont want to backup my data files
[10:11] <mwe> kameron: I thought usually it would autodetect it
[10:11] <mrkoje_> AIV,  It makes downloading, viewing and installing themes pretty simple
[10:11] <john__> anyone know if the order of initrd and kernel for an operating system in the grub menu.lst file matters?
[10:11] <blue-frog> stewski, soundjuicer
[10:11] <kameron> mwe: never hurts to be specific
[10:12] <mwe> kameron: anyway I was wondering why it gave him no such file
[10:12] <kameron> mwe yeah that was weird
[10:12] <ahz> In Ubuntu is there something like Fedora's kudzu?  I need to reconfigure hardware after I cloned a system to a computer with different hardware.  Now X doesn't work.
[10:12] <FREAK> i have a question
[10:12] <AIV> mrkoje, gnome-art package, can I get through apt get?
[10:12] <mwe> !helpme
[10:12] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:12] <tsume> Seveas: hey, what option is the mode for request?
[10:12] <tsume> Seveas: for thekicking..
[10:12] <Sturgeon> ahz: why didn't you just make a clean install?
[10:12] <rich-> !helpme
[10:12] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:12] <FREAK> how do i do a dual boot of linux (ubuntu) and windows *CRINGE!*
[10:13] <rich-> pfft
[10:13] <ahz> Sturgeon: it's faster to clone when setting up many systems with a certain configuration
[10:13] <SPLcrazy> anyone want to cyber add me sam8701@hotmail.co.uk
[10:13] <Seveas> FREAK, pop in the ubuntu installer and follow the instructions...
[10:13] <SPLcrazy> im female 19 yo
[10:13] <mwe> FREAK: just install ubuntu and it will create a dual boot for you
[10:13] <FREAK> oh ok
[10:13] <Sturgeon> ahz: not if things don't work after :)
[10:13] <mrkoje_> haha
[10:13] <afief> polpak: need to upgrade my head... have they released any new models?
[10:13] <FREAK> cool
[10:13] <afief> polpak: do you know where the rand() function is declared?
[10:13] <kremonte> question, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules
[10:13] <mwe> FREAK: provided windows is already installed of course
[10:13] <mrkoje_> SPLcrazy seems to be stuck in 1996
[10:13] <FREAK> yea
[10:13] <mrkoje_> thats the last time I heard "Cyber"
[10:14] <TTilus> ahz: learn to script installer
[10:14] <mrkoje_> lol
[10:14] <ScootaDoota> lol
[10:14] <ahz> Sturgeon: Previously I used Fedora where it would use kuduz on every boot, detect  hardware changes, and change settings as necessary
[10:14] <FREAK> thx
[10:14] <TTilus> ahz: thats the "debian way" of cloning, afaik
[10:14] <FREAK> im off to install now\
[10:14] <Sturgeon> ah
[10:15] <phienox> unfortunately it doesnt bring the all media codect inside it
[10:15] <CodenameKT> ahz: did u prefer that setting of kuduz on every boot?
[10:15] <kameron> i got 15 ubuntu cds in the mail today :D:D:D i was impressed.
[10:15] <sharpfurniture> hi
[10:15] <phienox> kameron, only 15 ?
[10:15] <sharpfurniture> im trying to get data from windows
[10:16] <ibmnotebook> wie kann ich einen ubuntu WEBDAV SERVER einrichten, so dass ich von anderen Ubuntu- und Windowsrechnern drauf zugreifen kann??
[10:16] <sas171> just noticed: if you type http://http:// in firefox it will bring you to microsoft.com =)))
[10:16] <phienox> i ordered 500
[10:16] <kremonte> woohoo ubuntu =^)
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> im getting daya from my windows hard drive
[10:16] <Seveas> ibmnotebook, english bitte
[10:16] <Seveas> !de
[10:16] <kameron> phienox: yeah. small town. don't think i'll be able to hand out anymore than that.
[10:16] <ubotu> from memory, de is Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> from the livecd
[10:16] <sovvy2009> lol sas171, i just did that - did the same. how odd
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> and every time i try to compress it, the livecd freezes
[10:16] <phienox> i got emty in one day
[10:16] <sas171> =)
[10:16] <Seveas> !no de is <reply> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:16] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> what shound i do?
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> *should
[10:16] <ahz> ConenameKT: I'm not certain what you mean, but I do prefer Fedora Core's kudzu on every boot to Ubuntu apparently not offering to recognize new hardware.
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> i have to have it as one file
[10:16] <phienox> i just went to the nearest university
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> to host it
[10:16] <sharpfurniture> can someone listen?
[10:16] <phienox> and had a table and handed out cd's
[10:17] <Seveas> ahz, Ubuntu recognizes it without interaction...
[10:17] <kameron> phienox: haha, rad dude.
[10:17] <kremonte> yes sharpfurniture?
[10:17] <ibmnotebook> How can i install an UBUNTU WEBDAV SERVER (i want to have WebDAV access from other ubuntu computers and windows)
[10:17] <phienox> it was all gone within 2 hours
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> thanks kremonte
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> im on the livecd, and i moutned my windows hard drive
[10:17] <Seveas> ibmnotebook, apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-dav
[10:17] <CodenameKT> ahz: that is what i was asking. and tell me what were u installing that u could not just run it after boot if need be with new hardware installs?
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> im getting my thunderbird and firefox data
[10:17] <kremonte> what are you trying to compress?
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> thunderbird and firefox data
[10:17] <AIV> I downloaded gnome-art with synaptic, but I couldn't get it via apt-get
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> i have a LOT of inbox messages
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> about a gig worth
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> no, less
[10:17] <sharpfurniture> 250mb
[10:18] <sharpfurniture> 341.0 MB
[10:18] <spotted> Can anyone tell me how to manage rcN.d and init.d?
[10:18] <spotted> I mean
[10:18] <kremonte> you are using tar?
[10:18] <sharpfurniture> no
[10:18] <sharpfurniture> tar.gz
[10:18] <spotted> some services like samba appear both in rc and init
[10:18] <Seveas> spotted, update-rc.d or system -> admin -> services
[10:18] <sharpfurniture> should i use tar?
[10:18] <kremonte> what erro are you getting?
[10:18] <ahz> CodenameKT: I installed a Ubuntu image on different hardware and now my Xserver is not starting
[10:18] <sharpfurniture> kremonte, no error
[10:18] <sharpfurniture> it just freezes
[10:18] <slick> !ati
[10:18] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:18] <phienox> i wish there were some kind of rsync capability to do at bootup ., so one could have an rsync server somewhere so when booting up with a live CD one could rsync scripts and saved files from this one at boot up of the liveCD ...
[10:19] <phienox> just a suggestion
[10:19] <polpak> afief, if you just type man rand
[10:19] <polpak> afief, it will tell you what you need to include
[10:19] <CodenameKT> ahz: is it giving you an error?
[10:19] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: are you hd's mouted read only or read-write?
[10:19] <afief> polpak: i did. sorry, seems my network cable was loose
[10:19] <JoeBlow> how do i allow all users to read and write my ext3 partition?
[10:19] <kremonte> possibly break up the files? maybe your computer cannot handle that many at once
[10:19] <sharpfurniture> TTilus, i cant mount ntfs with read-write
[10:19] <polpak> afief,  ah. no worries
[10:19] <Seveas> JoeBlow, chmod a+w
[10:19] <sharpfurniture> actually, it might be read-right
[10:19] <sharpfurniture> *write
[10:19] <sharpfurniture> lol
[10:19] <sharpfurniture> how do i check?
[10:19] <dawid> afeif have you been helped now?
[10:19] <ahz> CodenameKT: The log shows that it is trying to load an ATI driver (as with the computer where the image was made), but lspci show I have a matrix VGA
[10:19] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: can you write to disk?
[10:19] <JoeBlow> Seveas: type that in console or what?
[10:20] <kremonte> by default i believe ubuntu only has read support on ntfs drives
[10:20] <sharpfurniture> TTilus, you want me to write a file?
[10:20] <Seveas> JoeBlow, man chmod :)
[10:20] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: sort of  :)
[10:20] <Seveas> kremonte, correct
[10:20] <afief> polpak: i guess i'm starting to bug, but do you know how i can setup or connect to an ad-hoc wireless network?
[10:20] <ahz>  /matrix/matrox/
[10:20] <phienox> i also wonder if the live CD for 5.04 has ntfs write support ?
[10:20] <Seveas> afief, man iwconfig
[10:20] <sharpfurniture> mkdir: cannot create directory `asdfasdfasdfsdfasdf': Read-only file system
[10:20] <jenda> JoeBlow: yes, console
[10:20] <tsume> phienox: no
[10:20] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: or just ln -l to check permissions
[10:20] <polpak> afief, system->administration->network
[10:20] <tsume> phienox: I just tried
[10:20] <phienox> bad luck =)
[10:20] <CodenameKT> ahz: that is an easy fix  i personally run xf86 so the command is different give me once second
[10:20] <sharpfurniture> im read-only
[10:20] <tsume> phienox: the .15 ernel has it
[10:20] <phienox> ok
[10:20] <polpak> afief, or man ifconfig
[10:20] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: ok, where are you trying to save your compressed date?
[10:21] <tsume> phienox: linux lags behind bsd in ntfs support ;)
[10:21] <phienox> the only one i have here is the 5.04
[10:21] <polpak> afief, for the command line version
[10:21] <sharpfurniture> TTilus, /home/ubuntu
[10:21] <john__> anyone find evolution unstable in breezy?
[10:21] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: do you have a media you can write to?
[10:21] <tsume> phienox: if you need tools for on site, I recommend using Freesbier
[10:21] <sharpfurniture> TTilus, im writing temporary
[10:21] <tsume> *Freebie
[10:21] <afief> polpal: i tried both, it just doesn't seem to work
[10:21] <CodenameKT> ahz: basically u will need to change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use a vga driver but there is a setup
[10:21] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: ok
[10:21] <sharpfurniture> then im sending to filefactory.com
[10:21] <polpak> john_, I find it somewhat sluggish when using imap, but Imap tends to be that way for any client. Other than that, no
[10:21] <phienox> tsume i can bypass it anyhows
[10:21] <kremonte> have you tried breaking it up into less files per tar?
[10:21] <phienox> there are programs to do so =)
[10:21] <john__> im using pop3
[10:21] <afief> polpak: but i could never actually create my own adhoc network
[10:21] <JoeBlow> jenda: when i type chmod a+w , obviously it doesnt do it, what am i missing?
[10:22] <phienox> still having kernel support always helps
[10:22] <ahz> CodenameKT: OK
[10:22] <kremonte> coz from experience tarring 8000 files has crashed my pc =^)
[10:22] <sharpfurniture> TTilus, im running a 2.4ghz intel with 512 mb ram - if i were to tar around 400mb, would my comp freeze over?
[10:22] <tsume> phienox: I'm a working kid on technology, I must have tools :)
[10:22] <ph8> odd question but how do i found out what version of ubuntu i'm running?
[10:22] <phienox> ic
[10:22] <phienox> i jsut c0ollect tools
[10:22] <john__> i had evo, gaim and firefox 1.5 "firefox running from a folder in home) and ubuntu has completely locked up with my pc hdd read light going mental!
[10:22] <sharpfurniture> System->about ubuntu
[10:22] <sharpfurniture> ph8
[10:22] <sharpfurniture> System->about ubuntu
[10:22] <CodenameKT> ahz: try zorg -configure
[10:22] <polpak> ph8, lsb_base -a
[10:22] <CodenameKT> ahz: try xorg -configure
[10:22] <phienox> tsume , using live CD's is usually the way i install LFS/gentoo
[10:22] <sampan> ph8 you could also type: cat /etc/issue  in console
[10:22] <kremonte> question, just set up my second monitor w/ twinview and now glxgears is saying "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." - glx is enabled under modules
[10:23] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: it could
[10:23] <ph8> where does it say that on that display?
[10:23] <sharpfurniture> i already tried doing tar.gz twice
[10:23] <polpak> bah
[10:23] <sharpfurniture> and i really need this data
[10:23] <kremonte> sharpfurniture: try not tarring them all at once
[10:23] <sharpfurniture> its for my business
[10:23] <ph8> ah much better sampan, cheers
[10:23] <polpak> ph8, lsb_release -a
[10:23] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: but i'd expect tarring to crash rather than system freeze
[10:23] <sampan> ph8 sure :)
[10:23] <tsume> phienox: oh, heh. I don't mess with any of those. I'm too good for them.
[10:23] <ph8> 5.10 = breezy?
[10:23] <phienox> still if there was rsync support at bootup in init.d scripts etc
[10:23] <sharpfurniture> TTilus, system freezes, sadly
[10:23] <polpak> ph8, yes
[10:23] <ph8> i'm trying to install the fglrx drivers and i can't drag that far down the screen lol
[10:23] <kremonte> sharpfurniture: have you tried tarring less files at once?
[10:23] <phienox> i might use liveCD's asa worjking solution when being guest at some systems
[10:24] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: does it happen immediately when you start tar?
[10:24] <P8ntKid> Why does fluxbox start so slow in breezy?
[10:24] <sharpfurniture> TTilus, no
[10:24] <sharpfurniture> im not using tar, im using gui
[10:24] <phienox> tsume, u dont use gentoo ?
[10:24] <sharpfurniture> file-roller
[10:24] <polpak> ph8 http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#installatidriver
[10:24] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: do you know at what point it happens
[10:24] <tsume> phienox: no
[10:24] <sas171> how to start X11 configuration utility... there was a command like dpkg-reconfigure...
[10:24] <phienox> tsume, if you are good why not ?
[10:24] <kremonte> sharpfurniture: it's still tarring them =^)
[10:24] <ph8> polpak:  i can't drag far enough down the screen...
[10:24] <joey222> am getting boared waiting on these packages ti install
[10:24] <ph8> i don't think an faq will help
[10:24] <tsume> phienox: I use NetBSD, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and when it doesn't wor or doesn't have specs I need.. Ubuntu or Debian
[10:24] <polpak> Seveas, just curious, but why doesn't ubotu reference help.ubuntu.com/starterguide for the ATI and NVIDIA drivers?
[10:24] <ph8> there needs to be a built in arrow! ;)
[10:25] <polpak> ph8, pagedown ?
[10:25] <john__> is ubuntu supposed to be as good as windows at multitasking? ie having several apps open at once
[10:25] <Seveas> polpak, because it links directly to the right instructions
[10:25] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: i'd go with $ tar -cjf tarfile.tar filestotar
[10:25] <phienox> tsume, so u are a phoilosophic follower of a certain license ?
[10:25] <polpak> !ati
[10:25] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:25] <robertj_> john: yup
[10:25] <CptS> hi again, i need help with encoding of filenames after i mount a network windows xp share using smbfs (mount smbfs -o username=me,password=pass //compname/share /mnt/share), when i browse to the folder using smb:// i see the filenames right.
[10:25] <robertj_> john: multitasking is definately _not_ a problem ;)
[10:25] <tsume> phienox: Does have to deal with licensing yes.
[10:25] <TTilus> sharpfurniture: then you'd at least have error messages at console
[10:26] <phienox> tsume, no offense but i feel that is BS =)
[10:26] <TTilus> john__: way better
[10:26] <ahz> CodenameKT: "Xorg -configure" gives "Missing output drives.  Configuration failed."
[10:26] <phienox> as i use whatever that works fastest =)
[10:26] <polpak> Seveas, I suppose.. But if people knew about the starter guide they might look there before asking another (different question) that is covered in it
[10:26] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know of any application for Linux that records the desktop? IE, does the same thing as this program: http://www.fraps.com/ ?
[10:26] <john__> robertj_, well i must be having issues, either ff 1.5, evo, or gaim is crashing ubuntu
[10:26] <tsume> phienox: I write some modules for BSD which I use. Opensource is great, but there are leeches who just use linux/ etc  as a crutch, wait for other people to develop, and suck up all the glory
[10:26] <Belboz99> Woot! I got Kino to work!
[10:26] <ph8> won't work polpak
[10:26] <phienox> tsume, same goes for your stuff
[10:26] <tsume> phienox: like I sid, I write my own modules for some things, and other people don't need my code.
[10:26] <Belboz99> I had to use the Debian Sid Repostiories though :(
[10:26] <phienox> no matter which livense u use
[10:26] <kameron> SweetestSavage Camtasia?
[10:26] <SweetestSavage> kameron, I'll check it out
[10:26] <existance> how can i remove everything in a directory and the directory in one line?
[10:26] <ph8> this is very aggravating
[10:27] <TTilus> john__: does it logout, freeze or reboot or what?
[10:27] <robertj_> john: on breezy?
[10:27] <tsume> phienox: now.. its different when I'm helping with someone elses project though, or if I'm getting paid to write the code.
[10:27] <ph8> i can't select 5.10 and get to the ok button because they're off the bottom of the screen
[10:27] <CptS> someone, plz?
[10:27] <kameron> SweetestSavage i don't know if it's for linux, but.. yeah. i'll have a look for oyu.
[10:27] <tsume> phienox: I don't have an endless amount of money, and nobody has asked me to write code for money.
[10:27] <djlilyazi> i have a questiong..about root password
[10:27] <SweetestSavage> kameron, okay thanks
[10:27] <djlilyazi> i am trying to install JAVA
[10:27] <tsume> *opensource code for money
[10:27] <MW|F00d> lol
[10:27] <phienox> tsume, i see i am an ex programmer who turnbed mathematician instead =)
[10:27] <tsume> phienox: so therefore, I don't feel the need to write code (modules) for linux.
[10:27] <Belboz99> djlilyazi, same password as your user
[10:28] <tsume> phienox: mathematician++
[10:28] <PerryJr> hey mike
[10:28] <phienox> yah
[10:28] <PerryJr> hey mike it's perry
[10:28] <john__> anyone know any software to read hardware temperatures?
[10:28] <michaelri> heyy
[10:28] <polpak> djlilyazi, there is no root password because you are intended to use sudo not root
[10:28] <phienox> ive written programs also
[10:28] <tsume> phienox: you work on any of the numerics libs?
[10:28] <phienox> no i dont
[10:28] <michaelri> poopie
[10:28] <PerryJr> haha
[10:28] <phienox> the programs ive written were for security tests
[10:28] <existance> how can i remove everything in a directory and the directory in one line?
[10:28] <Belboz99> djlilyazi, you're actually running as a normal user with root priveleges, so it's your normal user password. ;)
[10:28] <tsume> phienox: oh.
[10:28] <JoeBlow> can someone please help me with chmod, i dont know what to type along with chmod a+w , i read the manual , and i cant find it
[10:28] <phienox> on all unix variants
[10:28] <TTilus> john__: sensors?
[10:28] <Estalo> Hey guys, what app need I use to decode ogg files and then encode as mp3?
[10:28] <djlilyazi> polpak, thank you so sudo ?
[10:29] <polpak> !sudo
[10:29] <ubotu> [root]  by default root has no password.  The reason is, the maintainers want you to use sudo for all your root access. see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo  If you wish, you can set a root password
[10:29] <phienox> but that was about 8 years ago
[10:29] <existance> JoeBlow, what are you trying to chmod?
[10:29] <john__> TTilus, yeah
[10:29] <tsume> phienox: oh?
[10:29] <tsume> phienox: what do you donow exactly?
[10:29] <JoeBlow> existance: my root directory
[10:29] <djlilyazi> polpak, i dont have any other user buy me
[10:29] <phienox> so ive turned more ignorant =)
[10:29] <phienox> lol
[10:29] <polpak> djlilyazi, are you trying to install java from SUN ?
[10:29] <TTilus> Estalo: why would you want to do that?
[10:29] <djlilyazi> polpak, yes..
[10:29] <existance> JoeBlow, uhhh, can I ask why?
[10:29] <tsume> phienox: oh, so you get a paycheck for being cenile? :D
[10:29] <Belboz99> djililyazi, you'd be suprised how many users you actually have
[10:29] <PerryJr> a lesxix you there?
[10:29] <phienox> well i do study mathematics
[10:29] <JoeBlow> existance: it wont let me delete or copy files from it
[10:29] <Estalo> TTilus, my brother wants the files, and he can only play mp3 or atrac
[10:29] <existance> JoeBlow, use sudo
[10:30] <phienox> that is what im paid for
[10:30] <sas171> how to configure XKB?
[10:30] <tsume> phienox: such a broad area :) what is your speciality?
[10:30] <PerryJr> hey everuyone.. it's perry
[10:30] <tsume> *specialty
[10:30] <kremonte> existance: to remove files + dir you can can rm * ; cd .. ; rmdir dir i think
[10:30] <phienox> programming or computer security or eficiece etc is a hobby
[10:30] <Estalo> The latter part is easy, I was just wondering how to decode the ogg back into .wav or something
[10:30] <existance> kremonte, yea, but there are directories in the directory :/
[10:30] <darte> hi there
[10:30] <polpak> djlilyazi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[10:30] <Belboz99> rm -rf /dir/path works for me
[10:30] <tsume> phienox: no, I mean mathematics special of study
[10:30] <dbecker> existance: what about rm -rf <dir> ?
[10:31] <existance> dbecker, gratzi
[10:31] <phienox> its combinatorics
[10:31] <john__> by rule of thumb, how big should my AGP aperture size be in my bios?
[10:31] <darte> im trying to install dapper .. i'm having some probs with repositories ..
[10:31] <PerryJr> leeanne
[10:31] <polpak> djlilyazi, that gives instructions on how to install the latest java in ubuntu
[10:31] <PerryJr> whats up
[10:31] <john__> half the size of my AGP card memory?
[10:31] <phienox> not the ones u learn in stats =)
[10:31] <michaelri> choo choo
[10:31] <djlilyazi> polpak, you are the best i swear...
[10:31] <dbecker> existance: -r flag to rm means recursive, -f means force deletion of direcories
[10:31] <JoeBlow> existance: its just a few folders in it wont let me change them to write
[10:31] <JoeBlow> existance: it let me write them 2 minutes ago
[10:31] <TTilus> Estalo: oggdec?
[10:31] <c_void> ja bin noch da
[10:31] <c_void> aber das mit dem fenster wechseln klappt nicht
[10:31] <djlilyazi> Belboz99, what do you mean i have many users ?
[10:32] <Estalo> TTilus, thanks :D
[10:32] <c_void> wie mach ich mir denn ein neues fenster auf?
[10:32] <john__> ANYONE, does anyone know what size my AGP aperture should be in my bios, is it double or half of my AGP memory?
[10:32] <existance> JoeBlow, do you know how to use sudo?
[10:32] <Estalo> it's hard to find :(
[10:32] <tsume> c_void: sprechen English or die :)
[10:32] <dbecker> I have good news, I think I've figured out the problem with my laptop hanging. DMA conflict with my CD drive was hanging the e100 driver for my NIC
[10:32] <Belboz99> djlilyazi, Linux is a true mulit-user system.  Take a look in Users and Groups under "System"
[10:32] <existance> dbecker, yea, i wasn't sure what the recursion would do :/
[10:32] <JoeBlow> existance: one second bro, wife
[10:32] <c_void> sry, wrong channel ^^
[10:32] <tsume> c_void: :D
[10:32] <phienox> tsume, still its hard so say its one field though since it intersects with analytical calculus , topology , abstract algebra etc
[10:32] <dbecker> CD drive may be going bad, too, which complicated things
[10:33] <phienox> even with formal languages an automata theory
[10:33] <PerryJr> lee ann
[10:33] <leeann> sup
[10:33] <leeann> lol
[10:33] <darte> is there any repository sync going on now?
[10:33] <ScootaDoota> johnj_:  check this http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/aperture-size/
[10:33] <PerryJr> hehe.. mr alden is gayy
[10:33] <alexisc> perry?
[10:33] <darte> i keep on getting new things with apt update
[10:33] <ph8> if i wanted to left mouse click with a button on the keyboard how would i go about it?
[10:33] <PerryJr> sorry that was michael
[10:33] <TTilus> djlilyazi: no, your machine is not popped, the users you have listed are not like persons but other progs and so on
[10:33] <ph8> actually ignore that
[10:33] <PerryJr> yeah
[10:33] <PerryJr> this is perry
[10:34] <alexisc> omg this is stupid
[10:34] <Hericus> ?
[10:34] <dbecker> ph8: figure it out? I'm curious, can you do it with keymap?
[10:34] <ph8> Guys, the resolution on my laptop with ubuntu is so screwed up i can't see the bottom of installation software for the new graphics drivers
[10:34] <phienox> tsume, right now im doing work related to kolmogorov entropy
[10:34] <Belboz99> djlilyazi, ok, Ubuntu does't seem to be showing all the users, but there are really all sorts of users besides normal users.  I have an ftp user and there's root, and so forth, but you can see a lot of groups in there anyway
[10:34] <ph8> i can't get down to the right option and even if i did i'd need to get down further to the ok button
[10:34] <dbecker> ph8: does ctl-alt-plus/minus work?
[10:34] <ph8> any ideas at all?
[10:34] <tsume> phienox: you do programming with the math?
[10:35] <phienox> not much
[10:35] <tsume> oh :(
[10:35] <phienox> notnthe stuff i do
[10:35] <TTilus> ph8: ctrl-alt-f1 and do it on console
[10:35] <tsume> you are missing all the fun :)
[10:35] <phienox> nah
[10:35] <tsume> all the hair pulling algorithms :)
[10:35] <phienox> numerical methods ust a small subset of mathematics
[10:35] <djlilyazi> Belboz99, how do i become the most powerfull user with alll access ?
[10:35] <phienox> so is the simulation theories
[10:35] <tsume> the ones which you use FORtran and the compaq compile :P
[10:35] <ph8> ttilus, it's an x environment install
[10:35] <polpak> djlilyazi, use sudo
[10:35] <tsume> *compiler
[10:35] <Belboz99> djlilyazi, try checking, "show all users"  to see what I mean
[10:35] <ph8> i think i can do it from the cmd line actually
[10:35] <ph8> good thinking ;)
[10:35] <phienox> tsume, thats not real math
[10:35] <ph8> dbecker: no, no difference
[10:36] <phienox> its formal language and somain theory
[10:36] <phienox> =9
[10:36] <ph8> well it makes a diff but the furthest out i can get is what i have atm
[10:36] <phienox> domain even
[10:36] <phienox> =)
[10:36] <PerryJr> hello?
[10:36] <phienox> that the computer science part of math
[10:36] <Belboz99> djlilyazi, assign a root password to root, but be VERY carefull what you do as root and do NOT log in as root
[10:36] <vk> can someone help me with ati drivers for 5 minutes, ive read wiki but still cant find out how to do
[10:36] <phienox> im more interested in building more disciplinces
[10:36] <phienox> like gdel
[10:36] <phienox> or turing =9
[10:36] <phienox> no real computers required
[10:36] <tsume> phienox: I see :)
[10:36] <phienox> =)
[10:36] <polpak> vk, what's the problem?
[10:37] <tsume> phienox:  numberics programming is still a tough job ;)
[10:37] <Belboz99> djlilyazi, I've already trashed Ubuntu a few times by using sudo, root is even easier to screw things up
[10:37] <polpak> djlilyazi, don't give root a password
[10:37] <TTilus> phienox: the real thin!  good!
[10:37] <phienox> sure it is
[10:37] <tsume> phienox: I've a friend who is almost bald :)
[10:37] <djlilyazi> Belboz99, it just asked me for a password
[10:37] <phienox> applied linear algebra isnt simple
[10:37] <TTilus> phienox: ...thing... even...
[10:37] <phienox> still its another kind of jo than i like
[10:37] <polpak> djlilyazi, if you absolutely positively MUST use a root enabled shell
[10:37] <Estalo> Ok, now is there an easy way to let LAME do multiple files at once (i.e. a whole folder?)
[10:37] <polpak> djlilyazi, use sudo -i
[10:37] <phienox> jo = job
[10:37] <AIV> ok, once I got ubuntu the way I want it, is there maybe a ghost like app that I can use to image my install to an external drive, or cd, or flash drive?
[10:37] <tsume> phienox: my friend is a EE, he woks with intelligent energy systems
[10:37] <tsume> phienox: I've seen his code... its in C++ :( so unreadable too
[10:38] <vk> polpak, im trying to use the guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:38] <polpak> djlilyazi, there is no reason to give root a real password, and many reasons not to
[10:38] <phienox> what is an intelligent energy system ? =)
[10:38] <dbecker> AIV: dd is crude but effective
[10:38] <polpak> vk, ok
[10:38] <TTilus> Estalo: for f in $(ls *.wav); do lame $f; done
[10:38] <michaelri> Sno0o0o0o0o0o0o0ooooooooooooooooooooooop
[10:38] <polpak> vk, what's the problem?
[10:38] <TTilus> Estalo: or like...
[10:38] <djlilyazi> polpak, i dont have one for sure lol
[10:38] <michellel> hi
[10:38] <tsume> phienox: everything from power plants designs to networks
[10:38] <michaelri> duz anyoone kno what 2+3 us?
[10:38] <michellel> no
[10:38] <djlilyazi> polpak, so how do i become like the user with all access i guess
[10:38] <Belboz99> polak, I tend to like using the su command when I have to do a lot of root-acess-only stuff, like installing packages from apt-get
[10:38] <polpak> djlilyazi, if you need to be the administrative user use sudo and then type your normal password
[10:39] <mrkoje_> michaelri, no
[10:39] <vk> polpak, ive runned step1 whitout problem , but when im typing step 2 in the cosole, it says fglrx
[10:39] <tsume> phienox: he has this uber library and app which is currently at snob city CMU
[10:39] <djlilyazi> oh
[10:39] <polpak> djlilyazi, sudo -i
[10:39] <dbecker> AIV: also google for g4u, that's a more ghost-like program
[10:39] <polpak> vk, pastebin the error if it's more than 1 line pls
[10:39] <ScootaDoota> I never use sudo
[10:39] <michellel> uugh
[10:39] <phienox> tsume, my current work is to formulate a model ( more an algebraic system ) as a tool for measuring efficiece in systems processes
[10:39] <Estel|uk> thanks TTilus  :D
[10:39] <phienox> meaning
[10:39] <phienox> also
[10:39] <mwe> Belboz99: just sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need it
[10:40] <dawid> hey , does any1 know what that GUI is called that allows u transparent windows and stuff
[10:40] <ScootaDoota> polpak......hahahaha.....you funny
[10:40] <phienox> one implication is showing that this model can tell ther what you thought was efficient is not at all
[10:40] <phienox> only temporarilye efficience
[10:40] <Belboz99> mwe, thanks, didn't know that one :)
[10:40] <phienox> but in the long run because of tneropy accounted
[10:40] <phienox> a system could be ininefficient in the long run
[10:40] <vk> polpak, echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules, and the console says fglrx
[10:40] <phienox> because it affects the ntropy if the system checked
[10:41] <djlilyazi> polpak, yeah it worked and i saw 100000000 other users too
[10:41] <phienox> since incresed entropy means more energy required to get work done
[10:41] <polpak> vk, is that a problem?
[10:41] <mwe> vk: it still adds it to /etc/modules
[10:41] <phienox> which is rarelky seen in engineering calculations when considering if a system is efficient or intelligent enough
[10:41] <vk> and if i now change ati in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to fglrx it wont work
[10:41] <phienox> still
[10:41] <vk> x doesnt start
[10:41] <phienox> im not an engineer
[10:42] <phienox> jsut a mmathematician spitting out algebras etc for use by engineers
[10:42] <polpak> vk, did you reboot ?
[10:42] <vk> polpak, yes
[10:42] <vk> polpak, i cant figure out why
[10:42] <polpak> vk, type lsmod | grep fgl
[10:42] <michaelri> yo yo yo
[10:43] <phienox> tsume, the models can be used to check super computer's parallelle processing also
[10:43] <gnomefreak> vk, mine did the same thing so i gave up on it lol
[10:43] <kameron> assuming i get CS:S working through wine this weekend, i'm going windows-less for the rest of my life
[10:43] <phienox> because data canbe seen with entropy and astuff
[10:43] <mwe> gnomefreak: but IIRC you have a rather old card, right? :)
[10:43] <vk> gnomefreak, so you still doesnt have 3d acc
[10:43] <darte> is there possible in dapper (us repositories) to install ubuntu-desktop?
[10:44] <phienox> so the discipline could be seen as a tool to investigate processes
[10:44] <vk> polpak, yes and then?
[10:44] <C-O-L-T> albacker: i AM BACK
[10:44] <gnomefreak> i have old onboard vc
[10:44] <phienox> or systms if its purely mathematical
[10:44] <phienox> =9
[10:44] <mwe> gnomefreak: rage something that isn't supported right?
[10:44] <polpak> vk, pastebin the output
[10:44] <phienox> and being a EE u can do some lumped matter abstractions also
[10:44] <C-O-L-T> albacker: It works, thanks I have common menus and everything. Everything is fine
[10:44] <gnomefreak> vk,  no i didnt bother with it figured the 3D in the card name was a lie and havent installed my other one yet
[10:44] <polpak> vk, or was there any?
[10:44] <phienox> but still use the discipline to chaeck if it works as u want
[10:44] <phienox> =)
[10:44] <Bwl> if I install dapper, will it break my system or something like debian unstable/experimental?
[10:44] <vk> polpak, no output
[10:44] <gnomefreak> mwe,  right my rage pro wouldnt work
[10:44] <polpak> vk, ok then something isn't right
[10:45] <hypn0> i want to try some php programming locally offline, do i just install php5?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Bwl, yes it will
[10:45] <polpak> vk, can you pastebin the output of lspci ?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> its breaking mine as we speak
[10:45] <ClayG> I'm cutting my own Cat5e cable, it's a bitch to get them the "connectors" , anyone know a good guide to show an easier/right way?
[10:45] <albacker> C-O-L-T, im happy
[10:45] <C-O-L-T> albacker: I am happy too
[10:45] <Bwl> gnomefreak: ok, good luck fixing it then. :/
[10:45] <Kindred> hypn0, and apache2
[10:45] <vk> polpak, 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Host Bridge (rev 01)
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:00.1 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Audio Controller
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:00.2 Modem: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97 Modem Controller
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX ISA Bridge (rev 01)
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82440MX EIDE Controller
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX USB Universal Host Controller
[10:45] <C-O-L-T> albacker: soon I am going because here is 11:45
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Power Management Controller
[10:45] <polpak> vk NO
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]  (rev 09)
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:13.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[10:45] <polpak> vk, don't paste here
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:13.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
[10:45] <gnomefreak> Bwl, ty
[10:45] <vk> 0000:00:14.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M (rev 64)
[10:45] <C-O-L-T> albacker: Have a good night
[10:45] <polpak> vk, use pastebin
[10:46] <Kindred> hypn0, oh wait nevermind sorry.
[10:46] <C-O-L-T> albacker: we will chat later
[10:46] <ScootaDoota> yikes...look at at that dmesg
[10:46] <ashwin> hi is there any command which tells me which version of ubuntu i'm running ?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> vk has simialr card but not same
[10:46] <vk> polpak, ??
[10:46] <vk> pastebin?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> i dont know what the p/m is
[10:46] <phienox> vk u may make use of nomorepasting.com or similar
[10:46] <dawid> kde looks nice, who would suggest i install it?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:46] <tsume> vk: please use nopaste
[10:46] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:46] <Kindred> ashwin, cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:46] <phienox> or any other pastebin
[10:46] <hypn0> okay, tnx Kindred
[10:46] <albacker> C-O-L-T, for more help about gnome  join #gnome, ill probably get to sleep soon..
[10:47] <ashwin> thanx Kindred
[10:47] <vk> polpak, do you have an idea of what the problem is?
[10:47] <polpak> vk, ah.. The problem is that you don't have a radeon afaict. You have a ATI rage.. you shouldn't use the fglrx drivers I don't think
[10:47] <definity> dose any onw know if airodump work with the IPW2200B/G wireless care ?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> OOo2 is broken in dapper the lang. files atleast
[10:47] <polpak> vk, But on a radeon 9600 the wiki should work fine
[10:47] <dawid> what is a nice C++ Editor (GUI)
[10:47] <phienox> nano ?
[10:47] <dbecker> dawid: xemacs
[10:47] <polpak> dawid, I like jedit for programming stuff
[10:47] <phienox> =)
[10:48] <robertj_> what's the best value-card these days?
[10:48] <vk> polpak, okay, kk, do you have any idea of which driver i can use
[10:48] <phienox> or maybe vi
[10:48] <polpak> vk, just the ati one I think
[10:48] <gnomefreak> <<has a radeon downstairs but i dont know the model thats why i havent put it in yet
[10:48] <phienox> well for serious programming emaxs works fine
[10:48] <polpak> gnomefreak, it should say on the card
[10:48] <vk> polpak, but then i have no 3d acc
[10:48] <gnomefreak> card for what?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> polpak, i wish it was that easy :((
[10:48] <phienox> there exist elisp stuff that can aid you in coding etc
[10:48] <polpak> vk, true, but that's ati's fault. They won't release the specs
[10:49] <gnomefreak> vk no you wont
[10:49] <phienox> hmm
[10:49] <vk> ATI sucks, thanx anyon
[10:49] <vk> ee
[10:49] <phienox> =)
[10:49] <vk> have a nice day polpak and gnomefreak
[10:49] <polpak> vk, you can use radeon cards no problem
[10:49] <AIV> if I have a windows 2000 server, that I can ping by name, how can I get to its shares?
[10:49] <polpak> vk, just not their other lines
[10:49] <gnomefreak> you too vk
[10:49] <CptS> how do i mount a network folder on startup?
[10:50] <dbecker> AIV: UI or CLI?
[10:50] <polpak> vk,  and most (if not all) the nvidia cards work
[10:50] <phienox> u can start supporting open graphics standards
[10:50] <Metal> hey
[10:50] <polpak> vk, w/ the nvidia standards
[10:50] <gnomefreak> ati makes a good card its just the ragepro serires sucks
[10:50] <ScootaDoota> AIV...you need to install samba
[10:50] <vk> polpak, but my computer is a laptop so i cant change my grapics card
[10:50] <polpak> vk, ah.. yeah
[10:50] <AIV> dbecker, what do you mean?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> vk sureeeeeeeeeeee you can its just a bit harder
[10:50] <polpak> vk, course laptops aren't terribly good for gaming anyway
[10:50] <AIV> ScootaDoota, I do have samba installed
[10:50] <dbecker> AIV: do you have samba installed, and do you want to get to the shares from the prompt, or from your desktop?
[10:50] <kremonte> does ubuntu come with linux-ntfs?
[10:51] <AIV> dbecker, from both
[10:51] <kremonte> well, the live cd, so i can resize a partition
[10:51] <ScootaDoota> AIV: Samba is software that allows you to mount linux/unix share on windows and vice versa
[10:51] <mjr> kremonte, it comes with the in-kernel read-only ntfs
[10:51] <vk> polpak, thats true, but the grapics in the OS is a little bit slow too, but i can live with it its better then windows anyway :P
[10:51] <gnomefreak> pos
[10:51] <dbecker> AIV: for graphic access, go to Places->Connect to server
[10:51] <polpak> AIV, you don't need a samba server to connect to a 2000 machines shares, you need a samba client
[10:51] <AIV> for command line I use mount?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ill bbl i have to get this pos off here its gonna anger me in a bit
[10:51] <kremonte> mjr: the linux-ntfs that knoppix has to resize ntfs partitions?
[10:51] <ScootaDoota> www.samba.org
[10:51] <dbecker> You can use mount
[10:51] <AIV> polpack, ok
[10:51] <polpak> AIV, For the best of both worlds use smb4k
[10:51] <AIV> samba client
[10:51] <polpak> AIV, it will do gui and command line
[10:52] <dbecker> AIV: you can use smbclient for an FTP-like client
[10:52] <polpak> AIV, and has an easy to use interface
[10:52] <dbecker> or mount -t smbfs -o <options here> for permanent mount
[10:52] <cafuego> Yaaaaaargh
[10:52] <kremonte> oh, scratch that, found something
[10:52] <djlilyazi> ScootaDoota , o i can access windows files ?
[10:52] <phienox> anyhows in future it may be required to make more modularized hardware , because of the environmental effects of waste from electronics , then a modularized open standard may have to follow
[10:52] <polpak> djlilyazi, windows shared files yes
[10:52] <vk> gnomefreak, are your os grapics slow to?
[10:52] <phienox> or else everything will get more and more expensive by time
[10:53] <purpleheart_USMC> Could I install php5, apache 2, and mysql 5 without synaptic?
[10:53] <dsas> should 3d acceleration with radeon mobility cards work out of the box?
[10:53] <Myrtti> you can install anything without synaptic
[10:53] <polpak> dsas, no
[10:53] <phienox> not because its ahard to make , but because it has envirnomnental impa cts and are hard to upgrade
[10:53] <Zambba> purpleheart_USMC: Yes, of course. Synaptic is only a graphical frontend to CLI tools.
[10:53] <phienox> without replacement
[10:53] <Myrtti> synaptic is a graphical frontend to apt
[10:53] <purpleheart_USMC> k
[10:53] <djlilyazi> polpak, so not all my files on window ?
[10:53] <polpak> dsas, you have to install the fglrx drivers
[10:53] <netbutterfly> Hey there, I'd really appreciate a little help on a partition problem :)
[10:53] <Zambba> purpleheart_USMC: sudo apt-get install package, apt-cache search package_name
[10:53] <dbecker> netbutterfly: what's the issue?
[10:53] <polpak> djlilyazi, files on a windows partition on the same box?
[10:53] <P8ntKid> Does the xlockmore package for ubuntu work? Because, its not working for me.
[10:53] <netbutterfly> Got an "error 16 : inconsistent filesystem structure" with grub
[10:53] <phienox> what i see is a graphic port and a graphic board where i ca plug parts onto the board
[10:54] <phienox> ti change the prestanda to what u want it to be
[10:54] <polpak> djlilyazi, or files on a remote windows box with a network share?
[10:54] <netbutterfly> dbecker, And therefore can't boot anything with grub
[10:54] <netbutterfly> So I booted with the live cd
[10:54] <phienox> inseat of replacing the entire board
[10:54] <djlilyazi> polpak, i have diff partitions for linux then windows..
[10:54] <Manifold> Hello.
[10:54] <netbutterfly> And tried a e2fsck : it tells me I have a superblock problem
[10:54] <polpak> djlilyazi, you need to ntfs mount your windows partition if you want to have read access to the files
[10:54] <mwe> netbutterfly: that sounds bad
[10:54] <netbutterfly> dbecker, Then I tried a few e2fsck -b XXXXX
[10:55] <netbutterfly> dbecker, ah ?
[10:55] <kremonte> does the ubuntu livecd have ntfsresize? it's listed on it's site for 5.10, but not sure
[10:55] <polpak> dsas, for info on how to install see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:55] <netbutterfly> dbecker, But here on the live cd, I can mount all my partitions without any problem
[10:55] <phienox> kremonte, have u booted up and checked ?
[10:55] <djlilyazi> polpak, oh dam put the partions toghatha...
[10:55] <dbecker> netbfly: maybe a bad grub install? Bad MBR...
[10:55] <polpak> kremonte, it has gparted. But I've had problems getting it to resize using a live cd
[10:55] <purpleheart_USMC> does synaptic have packages for apache 2, php5, and mysql 5?
[10:55] <Myrtti> just don't mount ntfs partitions to write on them from Ubuntu
[10:55] <Chousuke> So hm.
[10:55] <Chousuke> how well does Ubuntu support HFS+?
[10:55] <kremonte> phienox: no, have to reburn the cd since i've lost mine =P
[10:56] <netbutterfly> dbecker, Well, I chrooted and tried a grub-install, but the problem remains
[10:56] <dbecker> netbfly: if you can mount all partitions from the live CD and fsck runs clean on all of them from the live CD then something else is going on
[10:56] <kremonte> polpak: gparted? =X
[10:56] <Manifold> Guys, a question. Does FAT32 have a size limit?
[10:56] <Bwl> Hm. Anyone know why my X11 headers are in /home?
[10:56] <phienox> bad luck kremonte
[10:56] <distrojunkie> kremote: i have resized ntfs partitions with the installer
[10:56] <netbutterfly> dbecker, With sudo grub-install /dev/hda, it does install on the MBR, right ?
[10:56] <polpak> kremonte, applications->system tools->GParted
[10:56] <cafuego> Manifold: file or fs size limit?
[10:56] <mwe> purpleheart_USMC: not mysql 5 i think
[10:56] <dbecker> nbfly: it should
[10:56] <Manifold> cafuego: fs as in partition, yes?
[10:56] <cafuego> Manifold: (it has both)
[10:56] <polpak> distrojunkie, yeah, the installer works to resize AFAIK, just not the live cd
[10:56] <cafuego> Manifold: yeah
[10:56] <Telemachus> greets
[10:56] <mwe> purpleheart_USMC: do you need specific features of the lates mysql?
[10:57] <polpak> distrojunkie, the live cd for breezy anyway
[10:57] <Manifold> cafuego: Yeah, I mean partition.
[10:57] <kremonte> polpak: not on this comp. but i'm looking for the livecd, as i want to install ubuntu remotely =P
[10:57] <B166ERX> how can i change my 'computer' name ?
[10:57] <dbecker> nbfly: can you specify boot params with the live CD?
[10:57] <purpleheart_USMC> could you make a server that shares files, a printer, and acts as a lamp server totest sites?
[10:57] <mwe> B166ERX: edit /etc/hosts
[10:57] <AIV> smb4k is fricking awesome
[10:57] <polpak> AIV, yes
[10:57] <mwe> B166ERX: if you mean the hostname
[10:57] <cafuego> Manifold: http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prkc_fil_tdrn.asp
[10:57] <netbutterfly> dbecker, sure, which ones ?
[10:57] <dbecker> nbfly: you could try to boot from the live CD setting the root to your real root partition
[10:57] <dsas> polpak, hmmm, ok, thought it worked in breezy out the box...must've been something I installled.
[10:57] <purpleheart_USMC> mwe: i want to be able to use mysqli
[10:57] <mwe> B166ERX: back it up first though
[10:57] <netbutterfly> dbecker, ah, nice idea
[10:58] <dbecker> nbfly: root=/dev/hda<#>
[10:58] <B166ERX> i mean, whats after the username@pcname  in terminal, in example
[10:58] <mwe> purpleheart_USMC: what's that
[10:58] <Manifold> Thank you, cafuego
[10:58] <netbutterfly> dbecker, I guess I can find the right option by pressing F1, F2, etc., at boot time ?
[10:58] <netbutterfly> dbecker, root=, ok, great, I'll try that
[10:58] <netbutterfly> dbecker, thanks !
[10:58] <purpleheart_USMC> mwe: its a way of working with mysql
[10:58] <dbecker> nbfly: let me know if that works, I'll be on a while
[10:58] <mwe> B166ERX: /etc/hosts like I said
[10:58] <purpleheart_USMC> with php
[10:58] <polpak> AIV, I had some issues with it at first (until I chmod ug+s /usr/bin/smbmnt /usr/bin/smbumount) but now it works great
[10:58] <netbutterfly> dbecker, thanks a lot, I'll reboot right away :)
[10:59] <mwe> purpleheart_USMC: It shouldn't be to hard to install it from source. I believe there is a wiki even
[10:59] <ahz> Is there a way for Ubuntu to detect my new soundcard and reconfigure the system?
[10:59] <purpleheart_USMC> could you make a server that shares files, a printer, and acts as a lamp server totest sites?
[10:59] <dsas> purpleheart_USMC, sure, just install the right packages
[10:59] <mwe> purpleheart_USMC: sure
[10:59] <Manifold> Aha, so that mean's that means it is sensible in investing in a portable HD.
[10:59] <odat> hi everyone
[11:00] <purpleheart_USMC> sweet
[11:00] <dsas> purpleheart_USMC, you'll want samba, apache2, php5, mysql, etc etc
[11:00] <blekos> good afternoon ppl & happy new year :)
[11:00] <odat> any one know how to fix this error when starting  "GDM could not write to your authorization file"
[11:00] <purpleheart_USMC> this "samba" sounds awesome
[11:00] <Telemachus> samba is an excellent bit of software
[11:01] <nalioth> odat: in a rescue terminal, type 'rm ~/.ICEauthority'
[11:01] <dbecker> I second that, Samba is incredibly useful
[11:01] <dsas> purpleheart_USMC, you'll want libapache2-mod-php5 to install php5 with apache.
[11:01] <purpleheart_USMC> k
[11:01] <TTilus> blekos: having TZ=GMT-131 ?
[11:02] <blekos> lol no, TTilus
[11:02] <jessica__> i installed kubuntu-during startup i recieve a artsmessage and i have no sound? i talled on the sam computerhave ubuntu and kubuntu ins
[11:02] <Telemachus> I recently replaced a primary windows domain controller with a samba replacement and saved megabucks in the process
[11:02] <AIV> Im gone, you guys have a good day, and thank you very much for all of your help
[11:02] <jessica__> any help for this issue will greatly appreciated
[11:02] <blekos> GMT -2 Athens Greece
[11:02] <odat> nalioth, how do i do it from a live cd?
[11:02] <dawid> can i get transparent windows in gnome?
[11:02] <TTilus> blekos: ah, only thought that you just reached 2006
[11:02] <nalioth> odat: does your system boot by itself?
[11:02] <blekos> i would like to make my menu like Macs, that is when I pass my mouse over an icon from the menu, this icon to be enlarged...
[11:03] <blekos> lol, no, but just logged in after a few weeks of ;)
[11:03] <Manifold> Can windows be made to read/write to ext3 natively, cafuego?
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[11:03] <odat> nalioth, it tries to boot but when i get to gdm login it gives me that error then sends me back to the CLI
[11:03] <Zambba> Eroa tst yhteisst - Hae jsenten kuvat
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[11:03] <Myrtti> Zambba: thank you for the paste
[11:03] <blekos> manifold: there is a program for ext2 but dont remember its name  :(
[11:03] <nalioth> odat: then at the cli, log in and type the above
[11:04] <jessica__> i see a big diffrence between kubuntu and ubuntu is gnome a new architecture?
[11:04] <Myrtti> ha
[11:04] <odat> nalioth, ok thanx
[11:04] <jessica__> kde just need some fine tweaking to make it standout even more
[11:04] <cafuego> jessica__: No.
[11:04] <Telemachus> manifold:  I have had win proggies that read ext3 but haven't found one that can write it
[11:04] <cafuego> jessica__: Both GNome and KDe have been around for _years_
[11:04] <dsas> jessica_, it's quite a few years old, I think it's a year younger than kde
[11:04] <lowman62> winSCP
[11:05] <cafuego> Telemachus: ext2fsd (sourceforge)
[11:05] <jessica__> because im on kubuntu now and it has way more options and settings then ubuntu
[11:05] <dfgas> ok, here is my deal. i have 2 nics in my server. 1 nic (eth1) is for my lan and eth0 is for my dsl. well i am using ppp0 to connect to the internet. it is using eth0 but eth0 is also using dhcp to get an IP which it shouldn't be, how do i fix cause i am having problems on sometimes it is having connection issues but everyone on the lan works just fine
[11:05] <jessica__> thats hwy i asked
[11:05] <jessica__> it seems like kde was being worked on more then gnome when it comes to user firiendly envoriment
[11:05] <Manifold> Telemachus & blekos  http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm ?
[11:05] <cafuego> jessica__: Yes, that's why many people dislike KDE (far too full of cruft) It indicates design philosophy, not maturity.
[11:05] <B166ERX> someone just told me how to change the host name by /etc/hosts , after reboot, it said that it wasnt unable to connect to internet because 'pcname' wasnt in the hosts, but it could bechanged back
[11:06] <Kindred> jessica_, you think?... hm
[11:06] <cafuego> jessica__: Now, kindly don't troll ;-)
[11:06] <jessica__> i prefer ubuntu i love gnome
[11:06] <Telemachus> Manifold: lol...I was on exactly the same page
[11:06] <blekos> hmm, any idea how i can ger rid off, all this recover things I get on the start up screen, -and I mean the files- eg. i see linux kernel 2.9.xxx
[11:06] <B166ERX> but : it does sudo: unable to lookup NabuchadnesarIII via gethostbyname(),  when i try
[11:06] <jessica__> im not trolling i asked for assistance and nobody helped me so i figured why not ask questions about it
[11:06] <blekos> i dont want them anymore, since we have upgraded the kernel 3 times...
[11:07] <STARSCREAM1> Anyone know a better email program than Evolution?
[11:07] <mwe> B166ERX: sudo works anyway doesn't it?
[11:07] <Myrtti> Thunderbird gets my vote
[11:07] <CodenameKT> starscream1: thunderbird
[11:07] <deejoe> STARTSCREAM1: mutt, for some value of "better"
[11:07] <Telemachus> STARSCREAM1: Mozilla Thunderbird
[11:07] <B166ERX> mwe , oli@NabuchadnesarIII:~$ sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[11:07] <B166ERX> sudo: unable to lookup NabuchadnesarIII via gethostbyname()
[11:07] <STARSCREAM1> other than that too
[11:07] <deejoe> STARSCREAM1: mutt, for some value of "better"
[11:07] <deejoe> sorry about the extra T
[11:07] <STARSCREAM1> i like the extra features of evolution but it crashes when trying to download my huge inbox
[11:07] <deejoe> you using imap, then?
[11:07] <mwe> B166ERX: is NabuchadnesarIII in /etc/hosts ?
[11:07] <netbfly> dbecker, re :)
[11:08] <STARSCREAM1> deejoe, mutt?
[11:08] <xiaogil> Does someone know how to make a WinTV PVR2 USB work on Linux ?
[11:08] <netbfly> dbecker, Didn't work, unfortunately
[11:08] <B166ERX> mwe , as you see, i cannot acess it, but no it isnt, since i changed it
[11:08] <deejoe> yeah, mutt.  its an ncurses client.
[11:08] <Manifold> Is this true then, Telemachus? "
[11:08] <Manifold> Use an ext3 filesystem = data jounaling + large file support. You can read and write to it well from windows 2k/xp."
[11:08] <dawid> jessica with what did u want assistance?
[11:08] <STARSCREAM1> deejoe, u use it?
[11:08] <dbecker> netbfly: how far did it get?
[11:08] <netbfly> dbecker, got something like "could find root fs or block (0.0)"
[11:08] <deejoe> yes
[11:08] <mwe> B166ERX: boot single user mode(rescue) and fix it
[11:08] <STARSCREAM1> deejoe, and u prefer it to tbird?
[11:08] <netbfly> dbecker, not very far, kernel panic because it couldn't find the root fs
[11:08] <Kindred> Manifold, yes
[11:08] <dbecker> netbfly: this isn't a raid or lvm partition, is it?
[11:08] <yggdrasil> hey guys newbie here
[11:09] <netbfly> dbecker, no no
[11:09] <deejoe> I've never used tbird or sylpheed or any of the GUI clients
[11:09] <jessica__> is there a kubuntu irc channel i need help with the sound
[11:09] <netbfly> dbecker, standard, physical partition
[11:09] <STARSCREAM1> deejoe, oh, is it command line driven?
[11:09] <dfgas> Manifold: no, you can't see ext3 from windows at all
[11:09] <cafuego> jessica__: There is indeed.
[11:09] <dbecker> Hmmm
[11:09] <nalioth> jessica__: #kubuntu
[11:09] <dbecker> OK, let me check something on my machine
[11:09] <Manifold> -_-
[11:09] <deejoe> not command-line, but console.  It has a 2D interface.
[11:09] <netbfly> dbecker, funny thing is, I can mount my root fs without any problem here, on the live cd
[11:09] <cafuego> dfgas: I happily read from and write to ext3.
[11:09] <jessica__> appreciate it thanks
[11:09] <yggdrasil> newbie question im trying to add a drive on a windows box into the fstab .. andi got it but its read only or somthing.... can someon help me ?
[11:09] <deejoe> character-based, rather than bit-mapped
[11:09] <netbfly> dbecker, Thanks a lot :)
[11:09] <Belgain> quick question about bootup scripts: how do i disable the kernel md raid autodetection?
[11:09] <Kindred> dfgas, sure you can with what we are talking about..
[11:09] <deejoe> I prefer stuff I can run through GNU screen
[11:10] <cafuego> http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[11:10] <Belgain> i've tried deleting mdadm and mdadm-raid from /etc/init.d/
[11:10] <nalioth> yggdrasil: adjust your settings in your fstab
[11:10] <Belgain> but the md devices are still being autostarted at boot time
[11:10] <netbfly> dbecker, Well, since this is a server, I have different partitions for /home, /srv/, /usr, etc., so I can still reinstall (and format just / ), but if there's a quick solution, it would be great
[11:10] <Telemachus> Manifold:  It certainly reads the ext3 partitions okay
[11:10] <Belgain> the reason i want to do this is that this is interfering with EVMS's detection
[11:10] <deejoe> STARSCREAM1: http://www.mutt.org
[11:10] <yggdrasil> nalioth i tried adiidng guid and sid 5000
[11:10] <yggdrasil> 500
[11:10] <Manifold> Natively, Telemachus?
[11:10] <yggdrasil> and i tried 1000 and 500
[11:11] <nalioth> yggdrasil: are they ntfs drives? pastebin your fstab, please
[11:11] <STARSCREAM1> What is everyones favourite themes in ubuntu breezy?
[11:11] <yggdrasil> they are ntfs drives on a windows server
[11:11] <nalioth> ubotu: tell yggdrasil about pastebin
[11:12] <yggdrasil> nalioth im not sure what you mean
[11:12] <yggdrasil> ahh gothca
[11:12] <Fordprefect> evening all
[11:12] <yggdrasil> tahtnks
[11:12] <yggdrasil> ok nailioth i gotta cruz out for a sec
[11:12] <Fordprefect> hows people ?
[11:12] <yggdrasil> ill brb
[11:12] <yggdrasil> about 20 minutes
[11:12] <nalioth> yggdrasil: read your private messages, copy and paste your fstab into a pastebin
[11:12] <yggdrasil> yea gotcha
[11:12] <yggdrasil> ill be back in a while
[11:12] <dfgas> cafuego: hmmm, intresting
[11:12] <nalioth> yggdrasil: bring us back the URL to that particular pastebin
[11:13] <Fordprefect> hello is this thing on ??? testing testing
[11:13] <Manifold> Anyway, I found this application that gives XP/2K read/write access to ext2 and 3.. If anyone is interested.. http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[11:13] <Kindred> hi Fordprefect.
[11:13] <Fordprefect> cool thanks
[11:14] <Fordprefect> hey Kindred is there anyway of encrypting file systems under Ubuntu
[11:14] <Telemachus> Manifold: From memory with Explore2fs you have to use theere own proggy, I don't think it gives a viewable drive under my computer....but it may be diffrent now?
[11:14] <_null> What would happen if I write to the first 446 bytes of the MBR if I don't use the device for booting?
[11:14] <Belgain> any ideas about raid detection on bootup...?
[11:14] <Manifold> Yeah, check this link Telemachus. I just found it. http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[11:14] <dbecker> netbfly: you there?
[11:14] <matitaccia> hello. I'm having trobles installing linux. I get this error when I try to format my partitions ata1 : BUG: timeout without command. I think it's something with the sata drive/controller. Anyone has any idea?
[11:14] <netbfly> dbecker, yep
[11:14] <B166ERX> so, isthere a wayto change my computer name without screwing up /ect/hosts ?
[11:15] <dbecker> netbfly: can you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst into paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[11:15] <rjstone> why does the grub installer not let you configure it to use a different disk to install the mbr on?
[11:15] <netbfly> dbecker, sure
[11:15] <rjstone> i wasn't able to boot because i have a scsi and an ide disk and the thing installed the mbr on the ide disk which wasn't configured to boot
[11:15] <Telemachus> Manifold:  That looks a lot nicer :)
[11:15] <Kindred> Fordprefect: look at this maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com//EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[11:16] <Kindred> I don't know much about it.
[11:16] <netbfly> dbecker, here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6671
[11:16] <netbfly> dbecker, and if it is of any help, other info : http://pastebin.com/492469
[11:16] <Fordprefect> Kindred Major thanks
[11:16] <Kindred> :)
[11:17] <netbfly> dbecker, that's my fdisk -l /dev/hda   and my   cat /target/etc/fstab   (my root fs being mounted on /target here, from the live cd)
[11:17] <dbecker> netbfly: looking
[11:17] <Fordprefect> One other question Kindred, how difficult is it to make a .deb for Ubuntu
[11:17] <B166ERX> how can i install my sound blaster drivers whitout reinstalling ubuntu ?
[11:18] <Di42lo> where is the cdrom dev in the fs ?
[11:18] <Di42lo> that i have to mount (if isnt been auto mounted)
[11:18] <trappist> B166ERX: ubuntu ships with soundblaster drivers
[11:18] <redguy> Di42lo: /dev/cdrom ?
[11:18] <netbfly> Di42lo, /dev/cdrom ? /media/cdrom0 ?
[11:18] <dbecker> netbfly: boy, that looks right
[11:19] <Di42lo> k thx
[11:19] <netbfly> dbecker, it does :)
[11:19] <B166ERX> trappist , i know, but i installed a new MB+cpu hence my problem
[11:19] <redguy> netbfly: /media/cdrom0 would be the default mount point, not the device
[11:19] <pavilion> hello
[11:19] <willem> hello everyone, my mouse stops working if i dont use it for like a minute, anyone knows why? (usb mouse)
[11:19] <netbfly> redguy, ah, right, sorry :)
[11:19] <netbfly> dbecker, hmmm, then a sudo grub-install /dev/hda *should* do the trick, right ?
[11:19] <vk> i need some help, does anyone know the name of a winamp style mp3 player for debian?
[11:19] <willem> xmms
[11:19] <dbecker> netbfly: does the memtest grub option work?
[11:19] <cafuego> beep-media-player
[11:19] <vk> willem, tnx
[11:19] <redguy> willem: maybe it's tired?
[11:20] <Hawk|-> Hi,
[11:20] <dawid> hi there, i have a small problem
[11:20] <dawid> im trying to execute a sh script
[11:20] <dawid> but i get thise
[11:20] <Manifold> Yeah, Telemachus, I
[11:20] <netbfly> dbecker, didn't try that...
[11:20] <redguy> willem: no idea actually, sorry for the bad joke
[11:20] <dawid> bash: exec: cube_unix: not found
[11:20] <dfgas> ok, here is my deal. i have 2 nics in my server. 1 nic (eth1) is for my lan and eth0 is for my dsl. well i am using ppp0 to connect to the internet. it is using eth0 but eth0 is also using dhcp to get an IP which it shouldn't be, how do i fix cause i am having problems on sometimes it is having connection issues but everyone on the lan works just fine
[11:20] <Manifold> I'm gonna try it, Telemachus. Sorry about that, funny keyboard.
[11:20] <dbecker> netbfly: let me see something else. Can you ls -l /boot/grub and paste that?
[11:20] <willem> redguy,  yea probably, been using it way too much :P it works again when i plug it in again
[11:20] <netbfly> dbecker, sure
[11:21] <Telemachus> Manifold:  No worries.....be interested to hear if it works okay
[11:21] <nalioth> dawid: you need to 'chmod +x cube_unix'  in a terminal where the script is
[11:21] <vk> need some help again, what is the name of a text based web browser for linux?
[11:21] <LaserJock> I have a Breezy and Dapper install and grub is using the Breezy /boot, how would I get it to use the Dapper /boot?
[11:21] <trappist> vk: there's links and lynx
[11:21] <netbfly> d-rock, here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6672
[11:22] <sampan> vk, lynx, links/links2, w3m -- all are text-based browsers
[11:22] <vk> tappist, tnx,, lynx was the one i was looking for
[11:22] <Saint> hello, i've got two sepparate hard drives, one with windows and the other with ubuntu, both working, is there a way of choosing between them without unplugging one of them?
[11:22] <netbfly> d-rock, I must say that I also have a separate /boot partition, as you probably saw on the fstab
[11:22] <Hawk|-> got a question, where can i change the default programs? I mean when i double click a movie , the totem-player will be launched, where can i change it do vlc-player?!
[11:22] <robertj> what does "only works with linear framebuffer ATM" mean in regards to X
[11:22] <d-rock> netbfly: I don't see a separate boot partition there
[11:22] <redguy> dfgas: you sure that eth0 doesn't need to get an IP via DHCP? Do you know what address/netmask you should assign to eth0?
[11:23] <nalioth> vk: links2, lynx, w3m
[11:23] <redguy> dfgas: if you do, take a look at the /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:23] <dfgas> redguy: eth0 was set to use dhcp before i put it behind my modem, but if i disable eth0 then ppp0 won't work
[11:24] <Fordprefect> Kindred you there ??
[11:24] <willem> Hawk|-:  right click -> properties -> Open With, fill in VLC there
[11:24] <d-rock> netbfly: which partition is /boot?
[11:24] <netbfly> d-rock, woops, right
[11:24] <netbfly> d-rock, wrong machine :) I have a /boot on another machine :-p sorry
[11:24] <d-rock> :)
[11:24] <netbfly> d-rock, you're absolutely right :)
[11:25] <dfgas> redguy: how should eth0 be set now?
[11:25] <mwe> why do people use seperate /boot partitions on modern systems?
[11:25] <netbfly> d-rock, sorry I think you can't see my answers in your /query since I need to be subscribed
[11:25] <Falstius> mwe, safer, multiple oses
[11:25] <dfgas> redguy: as of right now, eth0 is using dhcp local and i think thats where it is messing everything up
[11:25] <d-rock> netbfly: yeah, no worries
[11:25] <mwe> Falstius: how is it safer?
[11:25] <netbfly> d-rock, do you think I might just reinstall, and format my / while keeping data on the other ones ?
[11:26] <Hawk|-> willem, mhh yeah it works..but only one time, when i open it again with a double click i got the crappy totem-player
[11:26] <Fordprefect> thanks anyway for the tip Kindred
[11:26] <Manifold> Will try and remember and get back to you, Telemachus.
[11:26] <netbfly> d-rock, maybe that's the simplest solution after all
[11:26] <d-rock> netbfly: that would probably be the simplest, it's just a weird error to be getting in grub
[11:26] <redguy> dfgas: maybe you modem has dhcp server as well?
[11:26] <netbfly> d-rock, right, ok I'll just do that
[11:26] <mwe> Falstius: and why would you need it for multiple oses. I've fbsd and linux on the same machine. never used a /boot partition
[11:26] <d-rock> netbfly: Can you get on IRC from another machine?
[11:26] <dfgas> redguy: no
[11:26] <redguy> s/you/your/
[11:26] <willem> Hawk|-:  maybe if you remove totom from that same list?
[11:26] <Falstius> mwe, you don't have to mount it automatically
[11:26] <Hawk|-> willem, sorry! i missed the proberties
[11:26] <netbfly> d-rock, hmm not really
[11:26] <Hawk|-> ah properties
[11:26] <d-rock> There's a grub command line interface that you can use to mount the drive and look through it
[11:27] <Falstius> so it removes the likely hood of accidentally deleting it.
[11:27] <netbfly> ah
[11:27] <willem> Hawk|-:  Ah :) does it work now?
[11:27] <d-rock> But the error you're getting is just bizarre
[11:27] <dfgas> redguy: i am sure thats it grabbing local dhcp
[11:27] <Hawk|-> willem, yes it does! thx a lot
[11:27] <mwe> Falstius: heh. yeah I guess so.
[11:27] <netbfly> d-rock, yeah...
[11:27] <willem> Hawk|-:  np
[11:27] <dfgas> redguy: could i just make eth0 static
[11:27] <netbfly> d-rock, Well I think I'll just reinstall
[11:27] <Hawk|-> i was searching for this damn thin for days
[11:27] <Falstius> mwe, as for multiple os, I just like to keep all of my kernels at one spot.  It certainly isn't necessary.
[11:27] <netbfly> d-rock, no big trouble
[11:27] <redguy> dfgas: then you have to provide address and netmask
[11:27] <d-rock> netbfly: let me know if the reinstall fixes it, this is strange
[11:28] <mwe> Falstius: yeah. I can see the point
[11:28] <netbfly> d-rock, I certainly hope it will :)
[11:28] <dfgas> redguy: do you think that would work right then?
[11:28] <netbfly> d-rock, ok I'll let you know
[11:28] <netbfly> d-rock, anyway, thanks a lot for the help
[11:28] <d-rock> netbly: no worries, sorry we couldn't get it running :(
[11:28] <LaserJock> I have Breezy and Dapper installed and grub is using the Breezy menu.1st, how would I get it to use the Dapper one instead?
[11:29] <netbfly> d-rock, no problem :)
[11:29] <netbfly> d-rock, cheers !
[11:29] <Falstius> LaserJock, make /boot a seperate partition and share it between the two ;)
[11:30] <mwe> LaserJock: um. you need to run grub and reconfigure it with the right partitions I guess
[11:30] <LaserJock> I tried grub-install but that didn't work
[11:30] <mwe> LaserJock: because you need to run sudo grub
[11:30] <LaserJock> mwe: did that
[11:30] <odat> nalioth, you still here?
[11:30] <kent> have the nvidia-glx  driver in Breezy no support for tnt2-cards? I cant load the module. It says "No device" even though i know very well that I have a nvidia tnt2-card. :(
[11:30] <mwe> LaserJock: then show root and so on
[11:31] <LaserJock> mwe: ?
[11:31] <redguy> dfgas: just looked on a similar setup with an old d-link modem conncted with eth0. the modem is 192.168.1.1, eth0 is 192.168.1.2 and eth1 is connected to the lan 192.168.128.0. So af long as you'll set up the modem's and eth0 subnet different from your LAN subnet everything should be ok
[11:31] <cafuego> kent: nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:31] <Falstius> LaserJock,you can run sudo grub and then install to the right drive ... there's a howto floating around on the web.
[11:31] <dawid> i do chmod +x file but stil exec file says file not found
[11:31] <dfgas> redguy: cool
[11:31] <kent> cafuego, will try that. thanks
[11:31] <willem> dawid:  try ./ in front of it
[11:31] <LaserJock> Falstius: yeah, I just thought that grub-install would do the trick
[11:32] <odat> anyone know how to fix the error GDM can not write to authorization file
[11:32] <Falstius> LaserJock, I've never had much luch with grub-install.
[11:32] <dawid> thanks willem that got it to execute!!
[11:32] <Sturgeon> dawid: ./file
[11:32] <redguy> dfgas: so set eth0 static, in the same subnet that your modem is, but different the LAN's subnet
[11:32] <mwe> LaserJock: you root(hdx,y) then setup(hdx), substituting with your actual disks and partitions
[11:32] <redguy> dfgas: that should work. it works for me at least :-)
[11:33] <dfgas> redguy: what about netmask?
[11:33] <Flux0r> i've got a shell script which runs a server. how can i execute this script on startup?
[11:33] <redguy> dfgas: 255.255.255.0 should be ok
[11:33] <Flux0r> i've tried to put it in init.d and registered it, but that wouldn't work
[11:33] <STARSCREAM1> ANYONE know how to get rid of the text Applications, places and system on the bar at the top and replace them with icons?
[11:33] <dfgas> redguy: should i set a gateway for eth0?
[11:33] <redguy> Flux0r: update-rc.d
[11:34] <redguy> dfgas: no, you don't need it
[11:34] <punkrockguy318> Is there a programming specialist here I can talk to?  I need to implement a solution my local music store, and I don't know where to begin.  If someone is good in this area, could they PM me?
[11:34] <redguy> dfgas: s/do/should/
[11:34] <Flux0r> redguy, i tried that but that didn't work.
[11:34] <redguy> Flux0r: then try man update-rc.d :-)
[11:35] <dfgas> redguy: i hope i didn't break anything in my foot/ankle, heh, fell down my icy stairs
[11:35] <yanis> damn 5.10 again! it didnt asked me if I want a static ip!
[11:35] <Flux0r> thanks for your help, redguy. any people who *do* know how it works?
[11:35] <Flux0r> :p
[11:35] <yanis> how do I change my ip to static?
[11:35] <Flux0r> yanis, you can't. your isp can.
[11:35] <dawid> okay thanks to willem and sturgeon i now get CUBE to run at a nice 400fps
[11:35] <dawid> hehe
[11:35] <redguy> Flux0r: also, your script has to understand at least start and stop.
[11:35] <LaserJock> mwe & Falstius : thanks I think I got it
[11:35] <yanis> Flux0r: I have a lan here!!!
[11:36] <dawid> so does any1 have a clue how to alt-tab
[11:36] <willem> dawid:  have fun :)
[11:36] <dfgas> redguy: lol, oops
[11:36] <yanis> Flux0r: I am talking about private ips
[11:36] <Falstius> dawid, hold down alt and tab?
[11:36] <dfgas> redguy: wrong window
[11:36] <odat> anyone know how to fix the error GDM can not write to authorization file
[11:36] <rem_> forgot exact syntax but its easily findable in google ..
[11:36] <redguy> Flux0r: or you could add it to bootmisc.sh
[11:36] <mwe> odat: when are you getting that? when it starts at boot?
[11:37] <Flux0r> redguy, i'll google that. thanks.
[11:37] <dfgas> redguy: oh btw, my modem doesn't have an ip, i am using pppoe connection and logging in from the server
[11:37] <redguy> Flux0r: erm, bootmisc.sh wasn't the right answer
[11:37] <odat> mwe, yes
[11:37] <redguy> Flux0r: look inside /etc/init.d/skeleton to see how boot scripts should look like
[11:38] <mwe> odat: well I can't help much but telling you to look at the log files
[11:38] <Manifold> Is anyone using Reiser4 for their FS?
[11:38] <mwe> odat: /var/log/gdm/
[11:38] <kameron> !tell kameron about lilo
[11:39] <mwe> Manifold: no, but reiser3
[11:39] <Manifold> You mean ResierFS, mwe?
[11:39] <shooters> My fonts in VLC are huge and ugly, how do I change them?
[11:40] <mwe> shooters: the 'switch' command
[11:40] <Eugman> Does anyone have any idea why mozilla is trying to downlaod any php or phtml files from my webserver part on this compter?
[11:40] <mwe> shooters: install gtk-theme-switch if you haven't got it
[11:41] <B166ERX> ok, i need some help here : I just installed a new MB+cpu, and now my soundblaster wont work.  i disable the onboard audio device, and it didnt change anything.  my pc 'sees' the card with > lspci | grep audio , and System- preference- sound shows the sound blaster 5.1 , but still no sound...
[11:41] <Manifold> G'bye.
[11:41] <robotgeek> Eugman: you havent set the mime-types correctly in your httpd.conf
[11:41] <mwe> B166ERX: are the channels unmuted and turned up?
[11:41] <mwe> B166ERX: alsamixer will show
[11:42] <B166ERX> i checked the alsamixer, but i dont really know wich one to check
[11:42] <redguy> B166ERX: what does 'lsmod | grep snd' say?
[11:42] <dradul> {part
[11:42] <mwe> B166ERX: master, pcm
[11:42] <mwe> B166ERX: those are essetial
[11:42] <Eugman> Ok. Any links or helpful explaination of how to fix that?
[11:43] <joey222> install finished woo hooo
[11:43] <robotgeek> Eugman: apache2/apache1?
[11:43] <mwe> B166ERX: and turning them up only works if they're unmuted too
[11:43] <redguy> Eugman: seems to be a server misconfiguration
[11:43] <B166ERX> mwe : http://pastebin.com/492510
[11:43] <Eugman> lemme check
[11:43] <B166ERX> like i'm suposed to know how to unmount a sound channel
[11:44] <nameeater> I would like to know what: tcp        0      0 210-246-6-84.parad:2073 prat.ubuntu.com:www     ESTABLISHED is
[11:44] <mwe> B166ERX: unmute
[11:44] <redguy> B166ERX: just checking. mwe has a good trail, check your mixer
[11:44] <Eugman> v2
[11:44] <nameeater> as I only have Opera open, and none of those pages are ubuntu related
[11:44] <mwe> B166ERX: alsamixer press m
[11:44] <d-rock> nameeater: is that from netstat?
[11:44] <shooters> mwe: when I run gtk-theme-switch I have two options: Default and Redmont, and both have bad font rendering...
[11:44] <nameeater> d-rock: yes
[11:44] <B166ERX> they were already unmuted
[11:44] <odat> nalioth, you here?
[11:45] <redguy> B166ERX: although this may semm stupid, but also check your speakers (if they're turned on, if they're connected correctly)
[11:45] <ardchoille> Anyone have a URL for things that are new/changed in gnome 2.13?
[11:45] <vk> can u have a picture of yourself displayed to others in gaim?
[11:45] <B166ERX> redguy they were working 10 min ago with the onboard audio so..
[11:45] <nalioth> odat: yes i am.
[11:45] <nameeater> vk: yes its in the account options somewhere iirc
[11:46] <B166ERX> hm, ok, sound seems like has decided to do a comeback
[11:46] <mwe> shooters: press the options button to the right of the input field and it will let you choose a font. gtk1 apps wont use tt fonts though
[11:46] <Eugman> actually maybe both. hmmm two httpd.conf's is probably a bad thing right?
[11:46] <mwe> shooters: they are ugly
[11:46] <robotgeek> Eugman: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf . find the line "DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml" make your line like this ine
[11:46] <robotgeek> Eugman: AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[11:46] <B166ERX> th
[11:46] <B166ERX> x
[11:46] <mwe> shooters: but you can limit the pain
[11:46] <robotgeek> Eugman: AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
[11:46] <odat> nalioth, i keep getting no suck file or directory when i try to delet the ICEauthority
[11:46] <robotgeek> Eugman: uncomment the last 2 lines
[11:47] <redguy> no suck file?
[11:47] <robotgeek> redguy: such
[11:47] <nalioth> odat: when you "ls -a" does it show it?
[11:47] <redguy> sucking files can be bad for your teeth
[11:47] <mwe> rofl
[11:47] <ibmnotebook> how can i download a file in the terminal?
[11:48] <mwe> ibmnotebook: wget
[11:48] <ardchoille> nalioth: PM?
[11:48] <Zambba> ibmnotebook: wget url://
[11:48] <Eugman> LoadModule mod_placeholder /usr/lib/apache2/modules is the only commented command
[11:48] <odat> nalioth, haven't tried it   am i doing this in the root directory or home directory
[11:48] <slashx1896> hey, can someone help me on how to copy a dvd to a blank dvd?
[11:48] <trappist> slashx1896: is your blank dvd and your writer dual-layer?
[11:49] <slashx1896> dual layer?
[11:49] <robotgeek> Eugman: in apache2.conf?
[11:49] <d-rock> Not sure about dual layer, but it may work
[11:49] <Eugman> yeah and for some reason I seem to have plain apache as well...
[11:49] <blekos> hmm, any idea how i can ger rid off, all this recover things I get on the start up screen, -and I mean the files- eg. i see linux kernel 2.9.xxx
[11:49] <trappist> slashx1896: if you don't know, it's probably not.  the drives and especially the media are a lot more expensive for dual layer, which is big enough to hold a regular dvd.  you can't 'copy' a regular commercial dvd to a single-layer writable dvd.  you have to compress it first.
[11:49] <shooters> mwe: if I download the latest vlc tarball from the website, could I use tt fonts?
[11:50] <Eugman> whoops
[11:50] <xcm> i need help.  i downloaded gcc to install apps from source, and when i do ./configure i get "C compiler cannot create executables"
[11:50] <mwe> shooters: no I don't think so.
[11:50] <slashx1896> ive done it b4..
[11:50] <slashx1896> b4 i got linux
[11:50] <trappist> xcm: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:50] <Eugman> sorry that's in the httpd
[11:50] <mwe> shooters: just use something else. at least that's what I do
[11:50] <xcm> awesome, ill give it a try trappist
[11:50] <shooters> mwe: what other apps?
[11:50] <robotgeek> Eugman: all what i said is in apache2.conf :)
[11:51] <mwe> shooters: I use gmplayer
[11:51] <ardchoille> nalioth: Remember that autobleh script that wasn't working for you in Ubuntu?
[11:51] <robotgeek> ardchoille: me too
[11:51] <Eugman> so add the add type and uncomment the last two commands in apache2.conf right?
[11:51] <nalioth> ardchoille: i do.
[11:52] <hawk_> the root pasword
[11:52] <trappist> ok, apt-build <any options> <any package> always fails with "collect2: cannot find `ld'".  building manually works.  debian-builder works.  dpkg-reconfigure works.  gotta be an environment thing with apt-build.  any ideas?
[11:52] <ardchoille> nalioth, robotgeek: I had a perl guru friend of mine look at it and he said the script is fine, no problems. The problem may be with Ubuntu or the Ubuntu perl module.
[11:52] <robotgeek> Eugman: directory index add index.php , then uncomment the addtypes for php.
[11:52] <nalioth> ardchoille: that's what was figured
[11:53] <ardchoille> nalioth, robotgeek: I was hoping to get a fix, but no dice :(
[11:53] <willem> alles goed verder?
[11:53] <nalioth> ardchoille: lots of things broke for me when i upgraded to breezy
[11:53] <nalioth> !de
[11:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:53] <ardchoille> nalioth: :(
[11:54] <jessica__> ok im having this issue-when i log int okubuntu under root sound works but when i log in under my name no sound when im in kubuntu how can i fix this?
[11:54] <Eugman> k
[11:54] <Malachi> Is anyone familiar with gnome-look.org?
[11:54] <jessica__> is a permission issue
[11:54] <mwe> nalioth: yeah. I ended up backin up my homedir and other important stuff. then doing a clean intall of breezy
[11:54] <xcm> if i download a .deb package, how do i install that
[11:54] <bimberi> !deb
[11:54] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:55] <xcm> thanks!
[11:55] <bimberi> np :)
[11:55] <Malachi> Is anyone familiar with gnome-look.org?
[11:55] <mwe> Malachi: I've been there a few times
[11:55] <Malachi> Do you know how to install the themes?
[11:55] <mwe> Malachi: yeah
[11:56] <Malachi> mwe, Can you tell me?
[11:56] <mwe> Malachi: if you bye me a beer
[11:56] <redguy> jessica_: maybe the user with no sound is not a member of the audio group
[11:56] <Malachi> A shall buy you a virtual beer.
[11:56] <redguy> hrm, too late
[11:56] <mwe> Malachi: sudo gdmsetup then press the button to install a new theme
[11:57] <Malachi> Thanks.
[11:57] <Argoth> Hey, I need help. I have had some wierd problems to windows not being able to see my maxtor diamond hard drive (200 gb) so, my solution was to put in a 4 gb hard drive and put windows on it and to put linux on my other 200 gb hard drive with 40 gb allocated to windows after the correct drivers were installed. So I did it but when I get to grub it sticks so my fix for that was to just put my windows cd in. Then it would let me boot into whateve
[11:57] <Argoth> r I wanted. I planned to reinstall grub or some how make it work. But I have run across a problem when I try and log in it comes up with the empty grey square box and then locks up. Has anyone else had this problem
[11:57] <Eugman> !permissions
[11:57] <Malachi> mwe: ESB, Stout, Red Ale, Pilsner, Porter, Barleywine, or Lambic?
[11:57] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.  Also, try "man chmod", "man chown", and "man chgrp" from the console.
[11:58] <mwe> Malachi: what?
[11:58] <Malachi> mwe What type of beer =)
[11:58] <mwe> Malachi: oh. I'll take a Carlsberg :)
[11:58] <Argoth> ...
[11:59] <existance> is there a program i can use to run a checksum?
[11:59] <mwe> existance: md5sum
[11:59] <Malachi> mwe: Umm.....
[11:59] <robotgeek> existance: on windows?
[11:59] <Malachi> What's your email?
[11:59] <Argoth> crap I thought it was a bad thing no errors :(
[11:59] <existance> robotgeek, no... on ubuntu
[12:00] <existance> robotgeek, a file i got came with a .sfv and i wanted to checksum it