[03:00] <ubuntu_> hello
[03:06] <Burgundavia> hello
[04:59] <Aaron|Feldman> hi all
[04:59] <Aaron|Feldman> just installed edubuntu
[09:19] <juliux> can some on add here please the german channel? http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuCommunity#head-84771059e4abfb69c7591fb5ed62c8a2c3ce61c6
[10:08] <Burgundavia> juliux, can do
[10:09] <Burgundavia> juliux, how do you say "If you speak German", in German?
[10:24] <juliux> Burgundavia, Wenn Sie deutsch sprechen
[10:24] <juliux> Burgundavia, thanks
[10:25] <juliux> Burgundavia, an what i have to do to have write access to the wiki?
[10:25] <juliux> Burgundavia, an the channel is edubuntu-de
[11:45] <juliux> ogra, the compay thinclient runs
[11:46] <ogra> great :)
[11:46] <juliux> and i think i get 2 more ac adapters
[11:46] <ogra> where did you find them ?
[11:46] <juliux> a friend of me has 26 wyse thinclients 
[11:47] <juliux> and the wyse thinclients have the same ac adapter
[11:47] <ogra> cool
[11:47] <juliux> so i search for a wyse ac adapter
[11:48] <ogra> grumble ... gcompris still has a versioned python2.3 dependency in debian ...
[11:48] <juliux> grummel the start up on the thinclient is very slow
[11:49] <ogra> yay for manual merging of 50MB source for trivial changes 
[11:49] <juliux> what can i do if i have no x running on the client?
[11:49] <juliux> and i cann t log in
[11:50] <juliux> shit
[11:50] <ogra> set a root password in the chroot :)
[11:50] <ogra> i guess you have a trident card in this client
[11:50] <juliux> an how?
[11:50] <juliux> hm good question
[11:50] <juliux> i dont knwo
[11:50] <ogra> sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd
[11:51] <juliux> thanks
[11:52] <juliux> it is a cyrix corporation 55300 video
[11:52] <ogra> hum
[11:52] <juliux> ah depth 24 is not supportet
[11:53] <ogra> never heard about that 
[11:53] <ogra> switch it manually and try to start the ltsp-client initscript again
[11:53] <ogra> (switch in xorg.conf i mean)
[11:53] <juliux> cann t i edit the xorg.conf on the client
[11:53] <juliux> and than startx?
[11:53] <ogra> you can
[11:54] <ogra> nope
[11:54] <juliux> the driver ist cyrix
[11:54] <ogra> run the initscript
[11:54] <ogra> not startx
[11:55] <ogra> if you run startx, xorg tries to write an xauth file in /root which is mounted ro
[11:55] <juliux> ah ok
[11:56] <ogra> the ltsp-client initscript uses /tmp for the auth stuff ...
[11:56] <juliux> ok
[11:57] <juliux> can i configure it on the server that every client should start with a depth of 16 and not with 24?
[11:57] <ogra> nope
[11:57] <ogra> sadly not
[11:57] <juliux> so i have to do it by every boot manual
[11:57] <ogra> xorgs setting for debconf prevent that
[11:58] <ogra> i'm still discussing with daniels to add an environment variable or something to override that
[11:58] <juliux> ok
[11:58] <ogra> does X start ?
[11:58] <juliux> no
[11:59] <ogra> any errors in the logfile ` 
[11:59] <ogra> ?
[11:59] <juliux> yes that the time stamp of many files is in the future
[11:59] <juliux> and that /ect/nbd-client does not exist
[11:59] <ogra> thats not preventing X from starting
[12:00] <juliux> at the moment i reboot
[12:00] <ogra> you have nbd client messages in the X logfie ??
[12:00] <juliux> can i see the logfiles on the server?
[12:00] <ogra> nope
[12:00] <ogra> and you shouldnt reboot
[12:00] <juliux> ok i power off and boot again
[12:00] <ogra> you should have changed the depth in xorg.conf on the client
[12:00] <ogra> nooo
[12:01] <ogra> and then run the initscript ...
[12:01] <juliux> yes but the thinclient hangs up
[12:01] <ogra> if X doesnt start read the log on the client
[12:01] <ogra> how
[12:01] <ogra> how does it hang ?
[12:02] <juliux> i cann t make any anthing
[12:02] <juliux> no reaktion 
[12:02] <juliux> ok the first error in the log file is that depth 24 is not supported
[12:02] <ogra> does it restart X all the time ? does it just stay silent ? is the numlock key responding ? 
[12:03] <juliux> no x dont  restart
[12:03] <ogra> can you switch to console ? 
[12:03] <juliux> yes
[12:03] <juliux> i get a console
[12:03] <ogra> so do that, log in, change the value for the depth, run the initscript ...
[12:03] <juliux> ok
[12:03] <ogra> check the X logfile whats wrong
[12:05] <juliux> hm how can i insert something with vi?
[12:05] <ogra> i
[12:05] <ogra> or R for replace
[12:06] <juliux> ok i get an erro if i want so save the config
[12:06] <juliux> cant write viminfo file /root/.viminfo
[12:06] <juliux> but the config is change
[12:07] <juliux> what is the name of the initskript?
[12:07] <juliux> the normal init skript?
[12:07] <ogra> ltsp-client
[12:08] <juliux> a thanks
[12:08] <ogra> dont run the -setup script ... it will overwrite the xorg.conf again ...
[12:08] <juliux> ok 
[12:10] <juliux> cool the client has 300mhz and 256MB ram
[12:15] <juliux> ogra, i cannt run ltsp-client on the client
[12:15] <ogra_ibook> why ?
[12:16] <juliux> command not found
[12:16] <ogra_ibook>  /etc/init.d/ltsp-client start is not found o_O
[12:16] <ogra_ibook> ?
[12:16] <juliux> ah now
[12:17] <ogra_ibook> does it run ? or does it fail ?
[12:17] <juliux> it run
[12:17] <juliux> but now i get out of range
[12:17] <juliux> and the console is full of symbols but no login
[12:18] <ogra_ibook> try dropping to a lower resolution with your next attempt
[12:18] <juliux> i will reboot the client
[12:18] <ogra_ibook> yup, repeat the procedure and drop off the highest resolution for 16bit in xorg.conf
[12:25] <juliux> very strange
[12:26] <ogra_ibook> ?
[12:28] <juliux> it also fails with lower resolution
[12:29] <ogra_ibook> still with the out of range error ?
[12:29] <juliux> yes
[12:29] <juliux> and than the console is broken
[12:29] <juliux> i will take a picture of it
[12:30] <juliux> someon from us here?
[12:31] <ogra_ibook> what is the resolution you set in xorg.conf ?
[12:31] <juliux> 1024x768
[12:31] <ogra_ibook> hmm
[12:31] <juliux> and this can my tft
[12:32] <ogra_ibook> but probably not the graphics chip
[12:32] <juliux> ah
[12:32] <juliux> ok i will try 800x600
[12:32] <ogra_ibook> does the logfile tell how much mem X has allocated ?
[12:32] <ogra_ibook> it normally is in there
[12:35] <juliux> i do not see it
[12:37] <ogra> must be there 
[12:37] <ogra> or an error with a big EE in front
[12:39] <juliux> hm
[12:42] <juliux> ok only on client boots, because the rest has no ram
[12:42] <juliux> very cool
[12:42] <juliux> i think i will send them back
[12:44] <ogra> no errors ? try setting the VideoRam option in xorg.conf
[12:44] <juliux> i stop playing with the compaq clients
[12:49] <juliux> because i want to send the clients back
[12:50] <ogra> give the guy my address, ill probably buy them
[12:50] <juliux> ogra, i also can send them to you
[12:50] <ogra> hmm
[12:50] <ogra> how much did you pay ?
[12:50] <juliux> i pay 75
[12:50] <ogra> ok
[12:51] <juliux> but i have no ac adapter yet
[12:51] <ogra> mail me your bank data (tomorrow please, my mailserver is in maintenance until then )
[12:51] <juliux> only one of a friend
[12:51] <ogra> oh, you have to give back the wyse one ?
[12:51] <juliux> the wyse on is from a friend
[12:52] <juliux> the compaq i bought on ebay
[12:52] <ogra> yes, i got that ... i didnt know you have to give it back
[12:52] <juliux> i don t know
[12:52] <juliux> i will ask him 
[12:52] <juliux> if he as more ac adapter for me
[12:52] <ogra> if i can get them with a power supply, i'll buy then 
[12:53] <ogra> one is enough
[12:53] <juliux> the problem with the compaq client is that only one has ram and sd card
[12:53] <ogra> i only need one client to test, the rest would be spareparts anyway ...
[12:53] <juliux> ah ok
[12:53] <ogra> i dont have the space to have 100s of clients running in my office :)
[12:54] <juliux> not?
[12:54] <juliux> i have the place but not the thin clients ;)
[12:54] <ogra> only 20 sqm for my office ...
[12:54] <juliux> only is good
[12:54] <ogra> and i will have more clients aound
[12:54] <juliux> the problem i have is that i have only one tft
[12:54] <ogra> canonical is pying for a lab, i only need the time to select some stuff i want
[12:55] <juliux> cool
[12:55] <juliux> so now i will phone rangee to ask them for thinclients
[01:04] <juliux> ogra, i have 6 thinclients for 100!!
[01:04] <ogra> wow
[01:04] <juliux> the things i want to have in december on ebay i get
[01:05] <ogra> coo
[01:05] <ogra> l
[01:10] <juliux> ogra, this is the screen i get if i run ltsp-client
[01:10] <juliux> http://www.juliux.de/stuff/citrx.jpg
[01:11] <ogra> hmm, looks funny
[01:11] <juliux> yes very funny
[01:12] <juliux> the only thing you can do is to poweroff the client
[01:35] <writer> ogra I need you attention
[01:36] <ogra_ibook> writer, but not for long, i'm about to leave to a datacenter to replace my mailserver
[01:39] <writer> I have a lot of questons, when do you have any time for me?
[01:40] <ogra_ibook> this evening if i have the new server running and hwdb.ubuntu.com up again
[01:42] <writer> My time is 16.40 What time do you have?
[01:43] <ogra_ibook> 13:42
[01:47] <writer> I want to meet in the net tomorrow in 9 your time. OK?
[01:47] <ogra_ibook> nope
[01:47] <ogra_ibook> i normally work until 4am ... i wont be up at 9 on a saturday
[01:48] <juliux> hehe
[01:48] <ogra_ibook> lets say past 12
[01:50] <writer> OK
[05:40] <^eniac^> hi all
[05:59] <thaetviking> I was trying to install Edubuntu on 3 Dell Inpirons.  All three are identical in hardware.  One successfully installed but the other two after booting to the cd and clicking enter to start installing have the screen fade to a white screen.  I upgraded the bios to A13.  Does anyone have another suggestion?
[06:02] <lucasvo> thaetviking: try #ubuntu
[06:07] <thaetviking> I was trying to install Edubuntu on 3 Dell Inpirons.  All three are identical in hardware.  One successfully installed but the other two after booting to the cd and clicking enter to start installing have the screen fade to a white screen.  I upgraded the bios to A13.  Does anyone have another suggestion?
[06:35] <juliux> hi \sh 
[06:35] <\sh> hi juliux 
[06:35] <juliux> \sh, hny
[06:35] <juliux> ogra, do you also want to have on of the rangee thinclients?
[06:41] <lucasvo> juliux: rangee?
[06:41] <juliux> lucasvo, http://www.rangee.de/
[06:41] <juliux> lucasvo, http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5837157646&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEDW%3AIT&rd=1
[06:42] <juliux> lucasvo, i have six thin clients
[06:42] <lucasvo> juliux: cool
[06:43] <juliux> but i sell this thin client to this people how make something with this thinclients
[06:43] <lucasvo> ah
[06:43] <lucasvo> :D
[07:10] <Burgundavia> juliux, I did it last night
[09:55] <dade> not all pxe enable card boots with edubuntu as client, my 3COM pci card could not boot 
[10:01] <dade> how do I get other pxe enabled card such as 3Com PCI based ethernet card without much alteration to the dhcpd.conf file