[12:05] <sampan> sorush20  if you make a script with it, make it executable, and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart/  i think that will do it ... but i've never done it, so that's just an (educated?) guess
[12:05] <sorush20> the script should start with what sh?
[12:06] <sampan> i think #!/bin/bash
[12:06] <sampan> just a text file, with that on one line, then your command line (assuming the command is in your PATH), then save it, chmod +x filename  ... then move it into .kde/Autostart/
[12:07] <sampan> again, for me, that's all just "theory" since i've never done it ... lol ;x
[12:11] <sampan> actually though, since it's a sudo command, i'm not really sure if that will work
[12:11] <sampan> pretty sure it won't since the sudo command will be looking for a password input
[12:12] <sorush20> sampan: thanks I'll ask ubuntu
[12:12] <kkathman> sampan: the script needs to have that
[12:12] <kkathman> sorush20:
[12:12] <kkathman> sorush20 the script has to have that in it at the top
[12:12] <monster> with kde3.5 the selection box seems to lag really bad
[12:12] <monster> any ideas how to fix this
[12:13] <kkathman> sorush20:  then chmod +x
[12:13] <monster> i think its the transparency on it
[12:13] <sampan> kkathman  i'm not clear what that means ...
[12:13] <kkathman> then add it to say the inittab or as sampan suggested
[12:14] <kkathman> sampan: what do you mean?
[12:14] <sampan> lol ... i'm not sure what "the script has to have that in it at the top" means ... what is "that"?
[12:15] <kkathman> what you said earlier #!/bin/bash
[12:15] <sampan> oh okay :)
[12:15] <sampan> how does one do a sudo command in a script like that?
[12:15] <kkathman> then the script has to be placed in something like /usr/bin  or /usr/local/bin  and chmodded to +x
[12:15] <kkathman> then it can be called from the script
[12:16] <sampan> ;(
[12:53] <TestMAD> is there a way to create a livecd from and install?
[12:55] <superkaos> hi, anyone know where to get the pgp key needed to verify the iso file you download from www.kubuntu.org
[12:55] <hawking> I have just installed kubuntu and I need to remove some hotplug files out of it to make it boot and I'll install some drivers but when I try to remove it says read-only filesystem how can i remount it as rw?
[12:56] <hawking> noone has any idea?
[12:57] <superkaos> hi, does anyone know where to get the pgp key needed to verify the iso file you download from www.kubuntu.org?
[01:01] <Hobbsee> superkaos: that site as well?
[01:01] <geirhard> hello
[01:02] <geirhard> sorry if the question is out of place or a little silly, but could someone tell me how to use the "whois"??
[01:03] <sampan> geirhard  if you do /whois nick  (where nick is a nick of a person on irc) it will show you their connection info nick!identd@hostmask.or.ip and their services name, etc.
[01:04] <sampan> but that's irc -- if you mean linux then man whois will help you out
[01:04] <geirhard> OK, but in the world wide web, if i want to know the info of a webmaster domain?
[01:05] <sampan> geirhard  never used it -- but "man whois" is the manual for it -- looks like a domain name lookup program
[01:05] <geirhard> ok thank you very much
[01:06] <superkaos> Hobbsee: couldn't find it there
[01:06] <Hobbsee> superkaos: did you mean the pgp key, or the md5sum?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> superkaos: should be http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/flight-2/ if you got the dapper flight 2 cds...
[01:08] <superkaos> the pgp key. There is a pgp signature of MD5SUM in a file named MD5SUM.gpg
[01:08] <superkaos> thanks I'll try
[01:08] <Hobbsee> oh, right, yeah
[01:09] <superkaos> again, the public key doesn't seem to be there either
[01:09] <superkaos> there is the signature, but not the public key needed to verify it
[01:10] <nalioth> superkaos: what are you after?
[01:10] <superkaos> it's kind of weird that the key is not easily accesible, what's the point?
[01:10] <visik7> why all this distros ? kubuntu ubuntu edubuntu ubuntu-server ? why not a single image that make the user choose what to install ???
[01:10] <superkaos> I simply want to verify the signature of the ISO to make sure it comes from the Kubuntu guys
[01:11] <superkaos> that's whay they signed the md5sums file in the first place
[01:11] <superkaos> but then there doesn't seem to be an easy way to check
[01:12] <nalioth> superkaos: the md5sums file has all the md5sums for each iso image
[01:12] <nalioth> superkaos: you run md5 /dev/cdrom   or some such to get a md5 and compare
[01:12] <nalioth> md5sums are not gpg keys
[01:12] <superkaos> I know, but the md5sums is also signed with a pgp key
[01:13] <superkaos> haven't you seen the MD5SUMS.gpg file? it contains a signature, it uses a DSA key with ID FBB75451
[01:14] <superkaos> md5sums is not good enough to check for authenticity
[01:14] <superkaos> only to make sure that nothing got screwed up during transmision
[01:14] <TestMAD> how can i turn my kubuntu install into a livecd?
[01:16] <superkaos> the public key in  http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg is not it, that is key ID DD4D5088
[01:16] <kkathman> TestMAD what would be the exact purpose?
[01:16] <nalioth> superkaos: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys DD4D5088
[01:16] <nalioth> superkaos: or w/e
[01:16] <TestMAD> to have the live cd setup with my user acocunt instead of the default
[01:17] <TestMAD> and have a few apps installed that i use
[01:18] <superkaos> thanks, I didn't know about keyserver.ubuntu.com. What you said didn't work, but the following did: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys FBB75451
[01:18] <jahshua--> hey guys i would like to set/up use ethereal.. anyone got any tips? good links? i have absolutely no idea what to do with it
[01:18] <kkathman> he did say w/e
[01:18] <nalioth> superkaos: glad you're sorted
[01:19] <superkaos> thanks! ;-)
[01:19] <kkathman> jahshua-- you mean you installed it and dont know how to use it?
[01:19] <kkathman> arent those two things a little reversed :) hehe
[01:19] <jahshua--> kkathman: i havent installed it yet
[01:19] <jahshua--> kkathman: im about to :)
[01:20] <RichardC> anyone know of a spyware scanner that will run off a usb thumb drive without needing to be installed?
[01:20] <seth_k|lappy> RichardC, for Windows?
[01:20] <RichardC> yes
[01:21] <seth_k|lappy> RichardC, HijackThis will.
[01:21] <RichardC> alright
[01:21] <RichardC> thanks
[01:21] <seth_k|lappy> http://merijn.org
[01:21] <RichardC> even better
[01:22] <Riddell> Hobbsee: my key is only used for the kubuntu.org packages, not the CDs
[01:22] <Hobbsee> Riddell: right, i stand corrected
[01:23] <RichardC> alright
[01:23] <Riddell> visik7: because not all the packages fit on a CD and our different versions are intended to be a fairly complete operating system in themselves
[01:23] <RichardC> seth_k|appy: know of a virus scanner for windows that works the same way
[01:24] <seth_k|lappy> RichardC, not a clue, sorry
[01:24] <RichardC> alright
[01:28] <hawking> how can i change the network settings in kde? I can't open that window as root
[01:29] <seth_k|lappy> hawking, you need to upgrade to KDE 3.5. It's a bug.
[01:29] <hawking> how can i update as I can't connect to internet
[01:29] <hawking> no way to do it in terminal or some other kind of solution maybe?
[01:30] <seth_k|lappy> you can change your network settings using 'ifconfig' in terminal
[01:30] <seth_k|lappy> or if you just need to activate your card, 'sudo ifup eth0'
[01:31] <hawking> thx I'll try that
[01:33] <visik7> which fb drivers are compiled in ubuntu kernel ?
[01:40] <dandielionous> hello
[01:40] <kkathman> hi there dandielionous ;)
[01:41] <dandielionous> How you doin'?
[01:41] <dark_suic> hi dandielionous
[01:41] <dandielionous> I finally got this machine basically set up.
[01:41] <kkathman> okie dokies
[01:41] <dandielionous> I can play a cd.
[01:41] <kkathman> dandielionous very good!
[01:41] <dandielionous> But I can't get the stream music to play.
[01:41] <flujan> hi all
[01:41] <dandielionous> ty ty I appreciate the good thoughts.
[01:41] <dandielionous> lol
[01:41] <flujan> how can I apply a patch to resolve a problem?
[01:41] <dandielionous> :)
[01:42] <flujan> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10080
[01:42] <dandielionous> I fixed the kmenu.
[01:42] <dandielionous> I found out how to add the other items.
[01:42] <flujan> I need to apply this patch but I didn't know how.
[01:42] <dandielionous> I had to install some stuff from synaptic and it installed the other categories in my kmenu.
[01:43] <dandielionous> So I guess it's just going to take some tweaking.
[01:44] <dark_suic> cool
[01:44] <dark_suic> :)
[01:44] <dandielionous> :)
[01:45] <dandielionous> I bet ya'll's computers hum.
[01:45] <flujan> hi... how can I apply a patch?
[01:45] <flujan> to the pppoeconf
[01:45] <flujan> ?
[01:46] <dandielionous> I wish I knew flujan 'cause I would help if I knew how.
[01:46] <dark_suic> flujan, there is a bunch of text on the "Edit" link on the url you gave, have you tried that?
[01:49] <dandielionous> Later.
[01:51] <flujan> i use the command patch /usr/sbin/pppoeconf patchfile
[01:52] <DaSkreech> seen jriddle
[01:52] <Riddell> hello DaSkreech
[01:52] <DaSkreech> seen jriddell
[01:52] <DaSkreech> Oh hi :)
[01:52] <DaSkreech> Riddell: I was just checking about bug 21865
[01:54] <Riddell> DaSkreech: audio previews work fine for me in breezy
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Riddell: I'm the owner but I\m not allowed to do anything to it?
[01:54] <DaSkreech> Riddell: What?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> You mouse over a audio file and it plays?
[01:55] <Riddell> yes
[01:55] <Riddell> .ogg files
[01:55] <DaSkreech> What type of file?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Drat
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Beat me :)
[01:55] <Riddell> what are you trying it with?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> Konqueror
[01:55] <Riddell> what sound format?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> ogg wav mp3
[01:56] <DaSkreech> course I've just noticed that text files are no longer being previewed as well
[01:56] <DaSkreech> They used to
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Under View-> previews what do you have checked?
[01:56] <Riddell> everything
[01:57] <DaSkreech> As do I
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Configure Konqueror -> previews
[01:57] <DaSkreech> Whats Checked there?
[02:00] <Riddell> everything
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Then... What?
[02:01] <Riddell> 5mb files, two tickboxes both ticked
[02:03] <DaSkreech> Ah ha!
[02:04] <DaSkreech> Not restarting Konqueror for a few days has implications :)
[02:04] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Thanks You can set it as solved
[02:06] <Riddell> DaSkreech: ok, thanks
[02:06] <DaSkreech> One less thing on the TODO list :)
[02:07] <DaSkreech> Riddell: quick question about my second issue
[02:22] <athlon> in konqueror, pressing ctrl-l to switch focus to address bar also erase the address that was there. How do I change that so it will keep the existing address ?
[02:23] <_die_> ciao
[02:35] <apollo2011> I had OpenOffice.org2.0 on an old Ubuntu installation, and now I installed it on a new Kubuntu installation and when I create a new database, none of the wizards open...
[02:36] <sampan> apollo2011 yeah i had that bug -- there was a simple fix (symlink) for it iirc -- try uncle google?
[02:37] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Are you there?
[02:37] <apollo2011> sampan: is this an (k)ubuntu specific bug?
[02:37] <sampan> apollo2011  i forgot where i found the fix, but it was on a forum ... took me a while to find it, but it was really easy to fix.  and yeah, i think it was just (k)ubuntu
[02:38] <apollo2011> ok
[02:38] <apollo2011> I will throw ubuntu into the search then
[02:38] <sampan> i'll look too ;)
[02:39] <sampan> apollo2011  it might even have been openoffice's forums now that i think about it
[02:42] <Riddell> DaSkreech: yes
[02:43] <DaSkreech> As I understand it Kubuntu has adopted Adept as a gangly little brother
[02:43] <Riddell> adept is our package manager of choice
[02:43] <DaSkreech> So if I want to make a sugggestion for adept should I do that directly to adept or to kubuntu
[02:43] <DaSkreech> Wonderful choice
[02:43] <Riddell> DaSkreech: poke mornfall
[02:44] <DaSkreech> When mornfall logs on?
[02:44] <Riddell> DaSkreech: you can suggest it to me too but it's mornfall's program so he's incharge
[02:44] <Riddell> or e-mail him
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Understood. Mornfall hangs out here or are there other chans
[02:57] <NeoFax> Finally got 2.6.14+ck8 and NVIDIA 8178 working!!!  Now to see about 2.6.15+ck1.
[02:58] <NeoFax> Anyone know why apt is having a hard time dl'ing its Packages.gz files?
[03:02] <MttJocy> Hi, I have a question, I have been trying to help a friend of mine get ndiswrapper running for his linksys card make is not working the gcc-3.4 packages are installed but it seams the path needs to be exported and it is saying export command not found, any help appreciated thanks
[03:09] <dark_suic> MttJocy, ask google, i can't help...
[03:09] <dark_suic> off to bed, bye
[03:09] <DaSkreech> does adept have a log?
[03:10] <DaSkreech> So I can see what was installed on a particualr day?
[03:16] <stefano> Hey guys i know its off topic but i need someone to read a text of mine regarding mistakes and grammar/spelling failures, because english is not my first language. who could do this? it would be about half a page of text if you'd print it. should be someone who is captious =)
[03:17] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: Use aptitude.  It creates a log.  adept does not.  If you want it to email the maintainer and ask to add that as a feature.
[03:17] <fatejudger> does anyone know how to use the UPnP support in KTorrent?
[03:17] <NeoFax> fatejudger: Does your router support this?
[03:18] <fatejudger> NeoFax: I'm guessing, most routers do
[03:18] <DaSkreech> NeoFax: ok So If i wanted to delete all the stuff I apt got yesterday I'd have a problem
[03:18] <DaSkreech> Oh wiat
[03:18] <DaSkreech> I did it on the command line
[03:18] <DaSkreech> does apt-get have a log?
[03:18] <NeoFax> If so, it should be as easy as turn it on on the router and ktorrent will use it.
[03:18] <fatejudger> NeoFax: no, they just came out with a UPnP plugin
[03:20] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: No, but you could look at /var/lib/cache/apt/archives with ls -l and weed out all of the files that were downloaded yesterday.  That is if you do not have apt automatically cleaning this folder for you.
[03:20] <DaSkreech> Ah brilliant :)
[03:20] <NeoFax> fatejudger: So if your router does not support it it will not work.
[03:21] <NeoFax> UPnp works by the router receiving a UPnp packet on specific ports and it automatically opening and closing ports based off of the packets coming thru.
[03:22] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: I meant /var/cache/apt/archives
[03:23] <fatejudger> NeoFax: right, which would allow a sort of dynamic port forwarding
[03:23] <fatejudger> NeoFax: most routers support this
[03:23] <fatejudger> NeoFax: but it doesn't seem to be working
[03:23] <MttJocy> I personally disabled UPnP and used azuerus which uses only one port, still not sure I would trust something like UPnP
[03:24] <fatejudger> UPnP is great
[03:24] <fatejudger> that's just paranoia
[03:24] <fatejudger> NeoFax: I just checked, my router supports UPnP 100%
[03:24] <NeoFax> fatejudger: Does your router have logs that you can get to? This way you would be able to dynamically see the ports opening and closing.
[03:24] <fatejudger> NeoFax: I don't understand why Ktorrent can't detect it
[03:25] <fatejudger> NeoFax: yeah
[03:25] <NeoFax> MttJocy: UPnP on a more secure by design system is not that bad.  I wouldn't do it on Windows though.
[03:25] <MttJocy> Maybe I am simply paranoid then
[03:27] <fatejudger> NeoFax: the logging on it is weird
[03:27] <MttJocy> NeoFax, And I aggree with what you said about windows, but I am not sure I would even trust windows in the vacinity of the internet full stop
[03:28] <NeoFax> How so, fatejudger?
[03:29] <MttJocy> NeoFax, Do you have any ideas why a kubuntu system my friend has is saying export: command not found and how to get around it, I tried googling and did not see much being useful there in helping get him past this problem, maybe I am a bad searcher but I am not sure
[03:30] <MttJocy> I always thought export was built into bash so I have no idea how it could be not found
[03:30] <fatejudger> NeoFax: I just cleared the log and looked at it
[03:30] <fatejudger> NeoFax: I now see what's going on
[03:30] <NeoFax> What exactly are you trying to do?
[03:30] <fatejudger> NeoFax: the torrent port, 6881 is being denied and UPnP isn't working
[03:30] <NeoFax> fatejudger: So, anything interesting?
[03:30] <fatejudger> NeoFax: that still doesn't help me get UPnP working though
[03:31] <MttJocy> NeoFax, Trying to export the new GCC line, I have given him the GCC packages which are installed but ndiswrapper makefile is still saying gcc-3.4 not found
[03:32] <fatejudger> NeoFax: I think it's blocking the UPnP requests
[03:32] <fatejudger> NeoFax: it's blocking an ICMP on port 13
[03:33] <fatejudger> NeoFax: I don't know why I have pinging disabled
[03:33] <fatejudger> NeoFax: and it's blocking something on port 60704
[03:33] <NeoFax> fatejudger: So, the UPnP on your router is on and it is denying port 6881?  That shouldn't do that.  You should have an originating packet from your pc on (I am assuming 6881) to the tracker.  The tracker then sends back a UPnP enabled packet to your router and it then opens the ports dynamically based on the trackers needs.
[03:34] <NeoFax> MttJocy: So, when you do CC=gcc-3.4 && export CC you get the error?
[03:34] <fatejudger> NeoFax: well it seems like everything is being denied by default since my access list isn't letting anything through
[03:34] <MttJocy> Actually was doing export CC=gcc-3.4 but yes this is when he got the error
[03:35] <NeoFax> Have you tried sudo export CC=gcc-3.4?
[03:35] <MttJocy> Same
[03:36] <NeoFax> What does locate export say?
[03:37] <sproingie> sure he's running bash?
[03:37] <MttJocy> I just asking him on MSN, this would be alot easier if I could get at the machine
[03:37] <Hobbsee> MttJocy: why not get him to connect via IRC too?
[03:37] <sproingie> just typing export should give you lots of output
[03:37] <NeoFax> Forget locate, it is compiled into bash.
[03:38] <MttJocy> Hobbsee, Good idea, when he answers msn I will tell him to
[03:38] <Hobbsee> :P
[03:38] <sproingie> i bet he's running csh
[03:38] <Hobbsee> if he has msn, he has internet, whichi means he should have access to an IRC client
[03:38] <stefano> hey dudes! i got a Lego brick which is heavier than a normal brick, there is a piece of metal built in. how can i express this in english? should i say "with a built in heft"? is that okay?
[03:38] <MttJocy> sproingie, what is the default in a kubuntu install?
[03:38] <sproingie> MttJocy: bash
[03:38] <fatejudger> I just opened up port 6881 on my router and now all the downloads are running great
[03:38] <MttJocy> Hobbsee, MSN via his other (win) pc
[03:38] <fatejudger> I don't understand why UPnP isn't working
[03:38] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[03:39] <stefano> hey
[03:39] <stefano> anyone?
[03:40] <MttJocy> Hobbsee, What was even more great is he needed to download gcc-3.4 from the internet to attempt to compile ndiswrapper so he could use the internet on linux, handy he had another box
[03:40] <Hobbsee> ah yep
[03:40] <Hobbsee> definetly useful to have another box around somewhere
[03:41] <MttJocy> I personally think it is rarther stupid not to provide the compler needed to compile kernel modules on the CD
[03:41] <MttJocy> He is comming to IRC now
[03:43] <MttJocy> It is a desktop PC with ethernet card, clearly has more patience than I do anyway, I think I would have just gone and fetched an ethernet cable for a desktop and save the hastle
[03:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:49] <MttJocy> Well, don't you though?
[03:49] <MttJocy> Anyone would think it was me waiting for help from him not the other way around, sooner or later I am going to end up telling him to do it hiself
[03:50] <heatxsink> hello all anyone in here have saa7134 card?
[03:52] <hawking> Kubuntu + KDE 3.5 + kernel 2.6.14 :) it's quite nice
[03:52] <hawking> I still got a problem though...
[03:52] <hawking> I have got all the multimedia-codecs with automatix but still amarok can't play mp3 files why can that be?
[03:53] <mebaran151> hey
[03:53] <sampan> !automatix
[03:53] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:53] <mebaran151> I want to synce my phone with my kaddressbook
[03:53] <NeoFax> Doesn't amarok need the amarok-mp3 deb for it to work?
[03:53] <mebaran151> it's a windows CE phone, but RAKI doesn't seem to want to recognize it
[03:54] <hawking> NeoFax oh let me see
[03:55] <hawking> hmm couldn't find a package like that
[03:55] <hawking> :/ do you know where I can get it?
[03:55] <NeoFax> Probably from the ftp.free.fr repo, but if you are in the US you can be breaking the law by doing that.
[03:56] <KGB> Hi, I am new to kubuntu :)
[03:56] <xwolf-> join the club
[03:56] <KGB> heh
[03:56] <sampan> dues are $25 payable to my paypal account
[03:56] <sampan> ;x
[03:56] <NeoFax> Soon we will have free mp3 since fluendo added it to gstreamer0.10
[03:56] <slikdude2005> Hi I need help w/ WMP54G
[03:56] <slikdude2005> cuz export command isn't working
[03:56] <xwolf-> sampan lol
[03:57] <sampan> lol
[03:57] <NeoFax> sampan: LOL!
[03:57] <MttJocy> NeoFax, slikdude2005 is the guy I was telling you about
[03:57] <hawking> NeoFax : no I am not in US and there is no amarok-mp3 package in that repo
[03:57] <sampan> hawking, did you follow the restricted formats wiki?
[03:58] <sampan> !restrictedformats
[03:58] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:58] <sampan> there may be some packages in there that you need to get
[03:58] <NeoFax> hawking: Give me a minute and I will check my KUbuntu box.
[03:58] <slikdude2005> ok
[03:58] <hawking> Neofax : ok thank you
[03:58] <KGB> is anyone here a mac person when it comes to kubuntu?
[04:00] <MttJocy> slikdude2005, Give it a min, they can only help 1 persona at a time without being too confusing
[04:00] <hawking> ok I got it
[04:01] <NeoFax> hawking: I have the following debs installed for amarok:  amarok;amarok-arts;amarok-engines;amarok-gstreamer and amarok-xine.
[04:01] <hawking> Neofax : akode-mpeg too right?
[04:01] <hawking> I installed that registered the plugins and it worked
[04:02] <NeoFax> hawking:  No, 3.5 removes that file
[04:03] <NeoFax> slikdude2005: What version of bash are you using?
[04:04] <slikdude2005> I don't know
[04:04] <sampan> hawking are you using kde 3.5 or 3.4.3?
[04:04] <slikdude2005> I'm using
[04:04] <slikdude2005> Windows dual boot
[04:04] <hawking> sampan : 3.5
[04:04] <hawking> why?
[04:04] <slikdude2005> w/ kbuntu
[04:04] <slikdude2005> cuz I have all my programs on it
[04:04] <NeoFax> slikdude2005: Do this at a CLI:  echo $BASH_VERSION
[04:04] <sampan> hawking: < NeoFax> hawking:  No, 3.5 removes that file
[04:05] <slikdude2005> ok
[04:05] <slikdude2005> I will
[04:05] <sampan> but i'm using 3.4.3 and i'm pretty sure akode-mpeg is what let amarok play mp3s for me
[04:05] <slikdude2005> btw is there anyway
[04:05] <slikdude2005> I can run the kubuntu
[04:05] <slikdude2005> within Windows so I don't have restart everytime
[04:05] <sampan> but i haven't upgraded to 3.5 so i have no idea if 3.5 changes that or not
[04:05] <hawking> sampan : yes I just experienced that
[04:05] <sampan> kk :)
[04:06] <slikdude2005> ?
[04:06] <NeoFax> sampan: That is true.  However, if you go from amarok thru ALSASINK in gstreamer you should have the gstreamer mps decoders from ftp.free.fr
[04:07] <NeoFax> slikdude2005: Yes, with vmware.  You can even get there vmware-player and use that
[04:07] <slikdude2005> ok
[04:07] <NeoFax> slikdude2005: CLI=Command Line Interface.  What you may think of as DOS like.
[04:07] <slikdude2005> but if I have kubuntu
[04:07] <slikdude2005> already installed
[04:07] <slikdude2005> ?
[04:07] <MttJocy> NeoFax, Would that run the ubuntu on the other partiotion though, thought it only used virtual drives
[04:07] <sampan> neofax  i'll take your word for it -- i'm kinda newb and definitely NOT a sound guru (or a guru at anything other than my phd fields)
[04:07] <sampan> ;x
[04:08] <xwolf-> lol
[04:08] <NeoFax> MttJocy: VMWare is a emulator(so to speak, so damnit don't flame me).
[04:08] <hawking> hmm so is there no way to make two programmes give sound at the same time?
[04:08] <slikdude2005> ok
[04:08] <slikdude2005> so I can't run
[04:08] <slikdude2005> kubuntu inside windows
[04:08] <slikdude2005> ?
[04:09] <MttJocy> Was not intended as a flame, I just did not know if it would run the ubuntu allready installed on another partition
[04:09] <Snake__> slikdude2005: yes you can
[04:09] <xwolf-> slikdude2005 dude, i just asked that a few days ago, it just gave me headaches
[04:09] <slikdude2005> can u though?
[04:09] <Snake__> slikdude2005: go get a trial of Microsoft Virtual PC 2004
[04:09] <Snake__> and install it onto that
[04:09] <slikdude2005> I can just use vmplayer?
[04:09] <slikdude2005> vmware player?
[04:10] <slikdude2005> can'tI?
[04:10] <NeoFax> hawking: Yes, you can with dmix.  The ALSA wiki is your bible for this.
[04:10] <Snake__> slikdude2005: I don't know, i've never used that
[04:10] <slikdude2005> but what if its already dualboot
[04:10] <hawking> Neofax : really?? I never thought that would be possible
[04:10] <Snake__> slikdude2005: But I do know MS Virtual PC will
[04:10] <Snake__> slikdude2005: Whats being dualbooted??
[04:11] <slikdude2005> Kubuntu and Windows
[04:11] <NeoFax> MS Virtual PC is the same as VMWare.  It will not use a already pre-installed system on another partition.
[04:11] <Snake__> Ohh I see slikdude2005 ....No theres no way to access kubuntu in windows like that
[04:11] <NeoFax> Think of it as a .iso file that gets mounted loop in windows.
[04:12] <NeoFax> Snake__: If you have an ext2 filesystem there is a program to acces the files and look at them.  I wouldn't however, as it is very unstale and you can mess up your inode tables.
[04:13] <xwolf-> slikdude2005 know what i had to do?
[04:13] <xwolf-> had to edit xorg.conf to get it working under vmware
[04:13] <Snake__> NeoFax: Yes, but he wants to run kubuntu in is (I guess) so thats not possible
[04:14] <slikdude2005> okok?
[04:14] <slikdude2005> how do I do that?
[04:14] <xwolf-> it IS working, in fact... but i just found out i won't be able to edit files (or create .php files, for instance) while i'm on vmware, cause that's only a fake thingy
[04:15] <xwolf-> not an actual boot
[04:15] <MttJocy> slikdude2005, It wont help you here anyway
[04:15] <MttJocy> slikdude2005, can't you get on here using your other PC again?
[04:15] <_gverig> Kopete just crushed on me 4 times in a row. With stack trace, whole nine yards. 1) anybody else saw something like this recently? 2) how can I better analyze wth is going on?
[04:15] <slikdude2005> ummm
[04:15] <slikdude2005> here
[04:15] <slikdude2005> I'll just put another
[04:15] <slikdude2005> kubuntu
[04:15] <slikdude2005> on vmware player
[04:15] <NeoFax> Back in linux infancy(cue Wayne's World doodla, dodla doodla music, dream sequence)  There were linux distros that would install right onto a fat partition.  It is possible to install Kubuntu into a fat partition and run it from there.  You cannot however, run kubuntu from within windows other than as a VirtualPC.
[04:16] <hawking> anyone who has a kubuntu laptop over here?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> gverig1: Happens to me all da time
[04:16] <Snake__> hawking: I run on a laptop
[04:16] <hawking> Snake__ : what laptop tools do you have?
[04:16] <Snake__> hawking: What do you mean
[04:16] <Snake__> In kcontrol?
[04:16] <NeoFax> gverig1: Use gdb to trace the fault
[04:16] <gverig1> DaSkreech: It worked fine for me all da time (have not crashed once) and now it can barely log in
[04:17] <JohnFlux> For some reason I don't have 'cc'.  Should some gcc installer link cc to gcc-4.0  or whatever?
[04:17] <gverig1> NeoFax: gdb trace does not give me much... Maybe I don't know what to look for.
[04:17] <hawking> Snake__ I mean are there any handy-laptop tools for kde...for example my fn button and those shortcuts doesnt work
[04:18] <Snake__> hawking: Ohh....hmmm i'm not sure, I'm on a thinkpad, all my buttons except Shift + Numlocked work
[04:18] <NeoFax> JohnFlux: If you update to kernel 2.6.14 you will need gcc-4.0.  Also, you may have apt-got updated to 4.0 by mistake.
[04:18] <NeoFax> hawking: Use KLineak to configure your fn buttons
[04:19] <DaSkreech> NeoFax: Is there an easy way to sort by time
[04:19] <hawking> NeoFax : E: Couldn't find package KLineak
[04:19] <NeoFax> I don't really know in CLI, but in KDE you can sort by the date field and it takes time into account.
[04:19] <hawking> what do you kde people use instead of synaptic?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> NeoFax: I/m getting times all the way back to a year before I installed this computer so that not what I\m looking for
[04:19] <gverig1> NeoFax: For the most part it just says (no dubugging symbols found)
[04:20] <Snake__> hawking: Adept, and apt-get
[04:20] <NeoFax> hawking: adept
[04:22] <NeoFax> gverig1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gdb
[04:22] <hawking> Neofax : do you know where I can get klineak... it doesn't seem to be in repos and couldn't find smth satisfying in google
[04:25] <Snake__> NeoFax: I am to am intrested in it..
[04:25] <NeoFax> hawking: Sorry to say, but Ubuntu repos do not have klineak.  You can either get it from debian's repos(run risk of incompatibility) or using checkinstall w/ source to create your own deb.
[04:26] <hawking> NeoFax : I see
[04:26] <Snake__> NeoFax: where can I get  the source
[04:27] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: That's weird.  You should have the date that the file was downloaded.  Is your time correct on the system?  Do you use ntp to set your clock?
[04:27] <Sgep> How do I fix this?
[04:27] <Sgep> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/492830
[04:28] <DaSkreech> NeoFax: Yes but it was installed from CD
[04:28] <NeoFax> Download the gpg key and add it to apts keyring
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Maybe it pulled the dates from the CD?
[04:29] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: That is why.  Why don't you comment out the cd and use the net?
[04:29] <gverig1> NeoFax: I know what gdb is (not that I am an expert). KDE shows gdb stack when an app crashes. Do you suggest taht I start Kopette under gdb? Will I get more info then stacktrace that way?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> NeoFax: I am using the net
[04:31] <NeoFax> gverig1: Sorry if I made it sound like you don't know.  I am not familiar enough with gdb.  That is why I thought the wiki would help you.  I do know that people use it to debug crashes for software.  Again sorry!
[04:31] <gverig1> NeoFax: No, no problem. You seemed like you could give some more detailed instructions so that's why I asked :)
[04:32] <gverig1> NeoFax: NP at all
[04:32] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: So, comment out the cd and grab everything from the net, unless you have a small bandwidth pipe or pay per minute.
[04:33] <NeoFax> gverig1: Wish I could.  I would love to know why some of my programs crash as well.  Normally in kde what I do is once I have a program setup to how I like it. I make a backup of its config files and such.
[04:33] <NeoFax> So, when it crashes I just delete the crashing config files and load the backups.
[04:35] <DaSkreech> And kopete goes boom again
[04:37] <xwolf-> get gaim
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee_away: HI
[04:49] <DaSkreech> Oh :-(
[04:50] <hawking> how can i configure my all apps to use ALSA?
[04:50] <xwolf-> what's alsa?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture
[04:52] <xwolf-> riiiiight
[04:52] <DaSkreech> http://www.alsa-project.org/
[04:52] <sampan> "advanced" is a -RELATIVE- term
[04:52] <sampan> <_<
[04:53] <DaSkreech> >_<
[04:53] <DaSkreech> >_>
[04:53] <sampan> >_>
[04:53] <NeoFax> hawking: Most will by default.  Some games and such will not as they were coded for OSS(flash, realplayer)
[04:53] <hawking> I see
[04:53] <DaSkreech> NeoFax: They were coded for OSS?
[04:54] <NeoFax> sampan: If you ever listened to linux music back when all we had was OSS, you would be calling it advanced.
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Oh that OSS I read it as Open Source SOftware
[04:54] <kosh> alsa is very nice
[04:54] <sampan> neofax  yeah, i've heard tales of how bad and difficult to configure it all was.  it's come a long way, but ... still has a way to go too -- it's a 'relative' term :D
[04:55] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: Alot of programs were and still are to this day.  Some code to OSS for cross compilation to other platforms as it is very easy to code too supposedly.
[04:55] <DaSkreech> What happened to openAL?
[04:55] <kosh> openal runs on top of alsa,oss etc
[04:55] <kosh> and it still exists just fine
[04:55] <kosh> actually some windows games use it also
[04:56] <DaSkreech> UT!
[04:56] <NeoFax> sampan: Don't disagree one bit.  dmix should be default along with dsnoop.  It should have multi input/output capability from the get go.  Multi card rigs should be easier to setup. USB audio should be on the fly default to card 0.
[04:57] <kosh> however if my card supports hardware mixing then those things should be disabled
[04:57] <NeoFax> DaSkreech: openAL is kinda like arts/ESD/jack/MAS  it is a sound daemon.  ALSA is not only a sound daemon but also the glue that writes straight to the hardware.
[04:58] <Hobbsee_away> hey DaSkreech - i'm still away
[04:58] <kosh> umm openal is a way to describe 3d audio
[04:58] <kosh> like opengl for audio essentially
[04:58] <kosh> I have to admit I have not used a soundcard that did not support hardware mixing in about 7 years now
[04:58] <NeoFax> kosh: Not true, I would like to have them as some hardware mixed cards do not do multi(AC3) hardware mixing.  They do quadraphonic or less.
[04:59] <kosh> NeoFax: then it should have a database of pciid then and decide to use dmix etc based on that information
[04:59] <NeoFax> USB audio cards do not have hardware mixing
[05:00] <kosh> NeoFax: if I have a card that can do 128 mixing at a time then why should I use another thing to do that mixing which will just slow down my system and add lag to the audio?
[05:00] <NeoFax> Still, I would prefer hardware mixing for say the front two speakers and software for the rear instead of hardware mixed pump the same sound to all four speakers.
[05:00] <kosh> I have a 7.1 sound setup
[05:01] <NeoFax> kosh: You can disable dmix and dsnoop in the config, just like I do to enable it.
[05:01] <kosh> and with amarok I use xine for 7.1 output
[05:02] <kosh> my point is that the system should just choose the best option
[05:03] <kosh> and it can do that based on pciid or something similar
[05:03] <hawking> my laptop gone crazy with kde :/ it says LCD on and LCD off  every 5 seconds or so
[05:03] <hawking> why may that be?
[05:03] <kosh> I should not have to turn it on anymore then you should have to turn it off
[05:03] <kosh> hawking: on a webpage?
[05:03] <hawking> nope just overall
[05:04] <kosh> oh wait wrong message I was thinking of accesskeys on off message
[05:05] <NeoFax> hawking: ACPI?
[05:05] <ffrnk> anyone have any guesses why kubuntu is painfully slow on a VIA C3?
[05:05] <hawking> neofax : acpi what?
[05:05] <NeoFax> Gotta go!  Back is starting to hurt
[05:05] <hawking> neofax : or what do u mean?
[05:06] <NeoFax> When you close the laptop this send s an ACPI signal to the kernel.  Your laptop could have a badly written ACPI rom that does this.
[05:07] <hawking> hmm so why didn't it happen on gnome then?
[05:08] <hawking> neofax : actually there is an asus-acpi module that knoppix used
[05:10] <hawking> hmm I found an asus-laptop-extras package
[05:10] <NeoFax> gnome may not be configured to show ACPI faults.  Gnome probably wouldn't with their hitleristic view on desktops.  This is something that the root(sysadmin) would be monitoring and fixing not a desktop user.
[05:11] <NeoFax> BTW ASUS has some of the worst ACPI roms on the planet.
[05:11] <Hobbsee_away> DaSkreech: i'm baaaaaaaaack!
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Hi Hobbsee_away :-)
[05:12] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:12] <hawking> neofax : I ee
[05:12] <hawking> see*
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Ha got you first
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: I have a super strange problem
[05:12] <Hobbsee> what's that?
[05:12] <DaSkreech> Much easier than my Audio preview problem :)
[05:12] <Hobbsee> oh good
[05:12] <DaSkreech> I want to remove some progams I installed yesterday
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Which is the short statement of the problem
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Long statement is that the debs in the cache all seem to have been installed at least September of last year and some from a year before I installed Kubuntu
[05:15] <DaSkreech> So is there either a) a log of installs that I can see or b) A simple way to list by last accedd time so I can find out the most recently used debs
[05:16] <FliesLikeABrick> is there any way to get hibernate to show up as an option on my log out menu?
[05:16] <hawking> lol my laptop model is not supported
[05:17] <FliesLikeABrick> i've got 4 machines here with kubuntu, all of which i know hibernate fine in ubuntu and other OSes, but no visual option to do so here in kubuntu
[05:18] <ffrnk> isn't ext3 less CPU intensive then reiser
[05:20] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: history, maybe?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Huh?
[05:20] <Hobbsee> as in, history to see what you went and installed yesterday
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: That doesn't work quite as well
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Like build-essential
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Thats a load of stuff right there but my apt-get remove build-essential doesn't do very much
[05:21] <Hobbsee> hmm
[05:21] <Hobbsee> no, you'd need to use aptitude for that
[05:22] <DaSkreech> If I apt-get remove build essentials it would remove all the things it depends on?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Aptitude sorry
[05:23] <kosh> if you remove a program then everything that depends on that program will be removed
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Right
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Build-essential depnds on things nothing depends on it
[05:23] <DaSkreech> At least I hope nothing depends on it
[05:23] <kosh> then removing it won't remove anything
[05:23] <kosh> apt-cache show build-essential
[05:24] <kosh> oh wait you can't tell from that nevermind
[05:24] <DaSkreech> ah
[05:24] <DaSkreech> It has a sepends line
[05:25] <DaSkreech> I can redirect it to a file and grep stuff from it
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Course that doesn't help with the qt/x/kde libs
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Though I guess I can go through my history and get that
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Oh.
[05:26] <DaSkreech> :-(
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Beautiful
[05:27] <DaSkreech> I had a power cut today so I have no history of yesterday
[05:27] <DaSkreech> How are you Hobbsee
[05:27] <Hobbsee> happy :)
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Oh ? How so?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Not that you are normally morose :)
[05:28] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: got a package into ubuntu repositories for dapper :)
[05:29] <mebaran151> how do I sync my Windows CE phone in kde
[05:29] <DaSkreech> rice!!
[05:29] <mebaran151> Raki doesn't seem to recongnize it
[05:29] <mebaran151> but I can view it using the kioslave
[05:32] <DaSkreech> kosh: So it seems that the packages must remain
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: which package?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ksudoku
[05:38] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:42] <ffrnk> how do i get firefox for i386 and not i686 since i have a c3
[05:42] <ffrnk> apt-get gets the 686 one, at least that what it shows up when i goto the help on firefox and check
[05:44] <kosh> and does that not work?
[05:44] <ffrnk> well seems super slow
[05:45] <ffrnk> and well a c3 isn't a true i686
[05:45] <ffrnk> works but i think it may be causing problems
[05:47] <ffrnk> just trying to install it and take winxp off, but xp ran faster which doesn't make sense
[05:55] <hawking> everytime I try to restart the computer the screen goes dark and then returns to KDE again saying "couldn't speak with kdelauncher" why can that be?
[06:00] <Yako-_-> buenas
[06:00] <Yako-_-> alguien sabe que version del kde y version del kernel tae el kubuntu
[06:00] <xwolf-> hallo
[06:00] <Yako-_-> ?????????????'
[06:01] <xwolf-> Yako-_- kde 3.4.3
[06:02] <Yako-_-> ok
[06:02] <Yako-_->  version of kernel tae kubuntu
[06:03] <xwolf-> 2.6.12.6
[06:03] <Yako-_-> ok
[06:03] <Yako-_-> thanks
[06:04] <xwolf-> cuando quieras :D
[06:04] <Yako-_-> jodeer
[06:05] <Yako-_-> y yo a matarme a traducir en el google
[06:05] <Yako-_-> XDDDD
[06:05] <xwolf-> haha
[06:05] <Yako-_-> xwolf esas versiones vienen en la version de kubuntu 5.10 no
[06:05] <Yako-_-> ??
[06:05] <xwolf-> si
[06:05] <xwolf-> breezy
[06:05] <Yako-_-> oye y sabes que tal va con las tarjetas nvidia
[06:05] <nalioth> !es
[06:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:06] <Yako-_-> por que comwentas que en mandriva debian etc queda congeladas las x
[06:06] <Yako-_-> ok
[06:06] <xwolf-> Yako-_- no soy tan experto
[06:07] <Yako-_-> ok
[06:07] <xwolf-> vete a kubuntu-es y talvez te ayudan
[06:07] <Yako-_-> ok
[06:07] <Yako-_-> gracias
[06:54] <sambagirl> chao
[06:54] <sambagirl> does kubuntu affect network sluggishness for windows?
[06:55] <sambagirl> let me ask again
[06:56] <sambagirl> i noticing bad performance on my windows computer now. i had connectoin of a open link i guess with a drive on the desktop of kubuntu. you think this is causing the sluggishness on the windows machine?
[07:00] <fatejudger> does KTorrent generally suck up 100,000 mb of RAM?
[07:07] <fatejudger> nobody knows?
[07:07] <sampan> 100gigs?
[07:07] <sampan> i would guess that's not quite normal
[07:07] <fatejudger> lol
[07:08] <sampan> but not having 100GB of ram installed, i can't say for sure ;)
[07:08] <fatejudger> sorry, wrong number
[07:08] <fatejudger> kb
[07:08] <fatejudger> does that help?
[07:08] <fatejudger> all I really need is someone who can tell me how much KTorrent uses on average
[07:08] <sampan> that's 100 mb?  not sure if that's normal -- but maybe depends on how large the torrent files are
[07:08] <fatejudger> it's a gig
[07:09] <fatejudger> it seems very abnormal
[07:09] <fatejudger> I don't think even azureus uses that much
[07:09] <fatejudger> it could just be a bug
[07:09] <fatejudger> a memory leek
[07:09] <fatejudger> *leak
[07:09] <sampan> seems high to me -- but i've not used ktorrent much (it kept stalling on torrents that bittornado would open just fine, so i finally ditched it)
[07:09] <fatejudger> you have to forwards a port
[07:09] <fatejudger> *forward
[07:09] <fatejudger> then it works fine
[07:09] <sampan> even without a router?
[07:10] <fatejudger> hmm, that's really strange
[07:10] <fatejudger> they fixed a bunch of that stuff in 1.1 and 1.2
[07:10] <fatejudger> I'm using svn right now
[07:10] <fatejudger> and I know it's a little buggy since their latest release is a 1.2 RC1
[07:10] <fatejudger> a release candidate
[07:10] <sampan> oh, maybe i'll give it another try next time i need to bt -- i've not had to use bt much since breezy was released
[07:10] <fatejudger> probably would fix things if I downgraded
[07:11] <sampan> but a gig of ram for a bt client seems high to me
[07:11] <fatejudger> but there are so many cool new features
[07:11] <fatejudger> 100 mb
[07:11] <fatejudger> not a gig
[07:11] <fatejudger> the torrent is a gig
[07:11] <fatejudger> I just don't have that much RAM, only 256
[07:12] <sampan> oh ... hrmmm ... i dunno what's avg ... 100 mb might be 'normal' if the pieces are fairly large
[07:12] <fatejudger> I was one of the stupid people that thought RDRAM was going to be the next big thing
[07:12] <fatejudger> what a stupid mistake that was
[07:12] <fatejudger> I can't even upgrade now
[07:12] <sampan> :/  predicting direction of tech innovation is about like predicting tomorrows stock market
[07:12] <fatejudger> I don't ever remember it being this bad
[07:12] <sampan> who knew beta was gonna fall to vhs?
[07:12] <fatejudger> I think it's just svn
[07:13] <fatejudger> beta had no pornos
[07:13] <sampan> hahaha
[07:13] <sampan> porn = the key to technical innovation
[07:13] <sampan> follow the porn and you'll never go wrong!
[07:13] <fatejudger> lol
[07:14] <fatejudger> you should start investing in HD pr0n
[07:14] <fatejudger> KTorrent keeps on sucking up more and more RAM
[07:14] <fatejudger> it HAS to be a memory leak
[07:15] <fatejudger> it's up to 110,000 kb now
[07:15] <fatejudger> omg
[07:15] <sampan> if it's going up steadily it would seem so
[07:15] <fatejudger> I see what's going on
[07:15] <fatejudger> it's downloading them damn file to my RAM!
[07:15] <fatejudger> *the
[07:15] <sampan> O_O
[07:15] <fatejudger> WTF!?
[07:15] <sampan> email author: you need a "save torrent to disk" option! ;x
[07:16] <fatejudger> lol
[07:16] <fatejudger> I told it to save it in my home dir
[07:16] <sampan> what happens when you run out of RAM+swap?
[07:16] <fatejudger> crash
[07:16] <sampan> eeep
[07:16] <fatejudger> that's what happened last time
[07:16] <sampan> ouch
[07:16] <fatejudger> and I didn't know what went wrong
[07:16] <fatejudger> the computer just flat out locks up
[07:16] <fatejudger> damn, I'm going to have to downgrade
[07:17] <fatejudger> I'm going to miss all of the cool features
[07:17] <fatejudger> *sob*
[07:17] <fatejudger> whoosh
[07:17] <fatejudger> RAM released!
[07:19] <fatejudger> maybe the official release candidate will be fine
[07:19] <fatejudger> I got the svn
[07:20] <sampan> file a bug report and it should get corrected
[07:20] <fatejudger> yeah, that is if someone hasn't done it already
[07:22] <sampan> someone has to be the first to report it
[07:23] <sampan> a confirmation of the problem can't hurt the developer
[07:24] <fatejudger> looks like it was a bug before
[07:24] <fatejudger> and it got reopened
[07:26] <fatejudger> hmm, it looks like the official one may not have this memory leak problem
[07:38] <SlimG> sorry for interupting in your chat, i was wondering if someone knows if the kubuntu (kde) translation will be moved over to rosetta (launchpad.org)?
[08:01] <ffrnk> is the a how to for windows codec setup?
[08:04] <SlimG> ffrnk: what media player are you using?
[08:04] <ilba7r> !restricted formats
[08:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[08:04] <ilba7r> ffrnk,  read ubotu link
[08:04] <ffrnk> well play wma files and the sort
[08:05] <ilba7r> and as an alternative you can try the free formats
[08:05] <ilba7r> !freeformats
[08:05] <ubotu> freeformats is, like, totally, There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[08:05] <ffrnk> thanks i'll remember to bookmark it this time... i always forget
[08:40] <elektronaut_> hm.. where did kvim go?
[09:03] <flosoft> is there a way to icecast streams?
[09:04] <fridge> MAGIC
[09:04] <flosoft> ???
[09:05] <fridge> I've not done it, but I'd imagine that you'd install the icecast server and configure it to stream whatever source you want
[09:05] <ffrnk> so how to fix major lagg in video on wma playbacks?
[09:05] <fridge> ffrnk: what program are you using to play the wma file?
[09:06] <fridge> mplayer?
[09:06] <ffrnk> ya tried that
[09:06] <ffrnk> since kaffine doesn't work
[09:07] <ffrnk> argues that the correct things aren't installed
[09:07] <ffrnk> i would think a 800mhz machine wouldn't have any problems with playback
[09:07] <ffrnk> can't even get dvd's to play
[09:07] <ffrnk> pretty sad
[09:08] <DaSkreech> I would think that a 1Ghz machine would be needed for smooth DVD playback from software
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Thats about the time that Hardware decoders for DVDs died
[09:08] <ffrnk> humm ya maybe.. i wouldn't know
[09:09] <ffrnk> i'll let you know if i still have an issue when i get it all setup on my x64 x2
[09:09] <ffrnk> i'm just having a killer time enough with my older computer
[09:23] <kairu0> hey all
[09:51] <nlboy> hey ppl
[09:52] <nlboy> is it possible to install kubuntu on a hd, and only let it boot when i put a kubuntu cd in the drive
[09:55] <nlboy> does anyone know that?
[10:26] <TooSad> hi
[10:27] <TooSad> i have installed mplayer-k6 but i heard audio non very well
[10:28] <TooSad> why?
[10:36] <ilba7r> !codec
[10:36] <ubotu> ilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:36] <ilba7r> !wincodec
[10:36] <ubotu> ilba7r: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:36] <ilba7r> !restricted
[10:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:37] <penguinzdr> !FreeFormats
[10:37] <ubotu> freeformats is, like, totally, There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:56] <Snifffurt> hello
[10:56] <jpatrick> morning Snifffurt
[10:58] <Snifffurt> since last night, I get the error MsgBox "Error: Mime Type not available: application/octet-stream". What could this be?
[10:59] <jpatrick> hmm
[11:00] <Snifffurt> I did change the proprietys for the *.par2 and *.PAR2 filetypes. Probbably it has to do something with this
[11:01] <Snifffurt> But after remooving it it did not get any better now
[11:05] <hawknig> what debian repositories can i use for kubuntu?
[11:06] <Snifffurt> I realy don't have a clue how to determine now where this comes from
[11:06] <jpatrick> hawknig: any deb-src ones
[11:08] <hawknig> jpatrick : so using this (deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main) is a bad idea??
[11:08] <jpatrick> I think so
[11:09] <jpatrick> why use stable?
[11:14] <hawknig> jpatrich : Why not?
[11:15] <hawknig> W: GPG error: http://ftp.tr.debian.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D
[11:15] <hawknig> how can i fix this?
[11:15] <penguinzdr> omg i have 40 secs lag
[11:16] <viviersf> hawking, import that key , and if that url breaks things, dont come running to this channel
[11:18] <hawknig> viviersf : how can i import it?
[11:19] <viviersf> erm
[11:19] <jpatrick> hawknig: because Ubuntu is stable Debian unstable
[11:19] <viviersf> jpatrick, erm not becoz of that
[11:20] <jpatrick> viviersf: wasn't talking about the key
[11:20] <hawknig> you guys can tell me a repository to use?
[11:20] <viviersf> hawking, for what ?
[11:20] <jpatrick> what use the Ubuntu ones
[11:20] <nlboy> !javadebs
[11:20] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[11:20] <viviersf> and jpatrick  he was talking about importing the keys
[11:21] <hawknig> viviersf : well I need a debian repository to get some laptop tools and klineak
[11:21] <viviersf> hawking, uncomment the ones in the ubuntu sources.list :/
[11:22] <hawknig> klineak isn't in ubuntu repos
[11:23] <nlboy> what is the command to install *.deb? something like kpdg -i <filename> ?
[11:23] <jpatrick> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:23] <viviersf> dpkg -i name.deb
[11:23] <nlboy> k thanks jpatrick and viviersf
[11:23] <nlboy> im playing around alittle on kubuntu in a VMware workstation
[11:24] <BigKahuna> I have a password protected rar file but Im not sure where to specify the password before attempting to extract...
[11:24] <BigKahuna> by default Ark opens the file and allows me to attempt the extraction...
[11:25] <BigKahuna> but then falls over near the end because the fle is password protected.
[11:31] <BigKahuna> how to extract files from an .rar archive?
[11:33] <jpatrick> using Ark?
[11:40] <gberry> c qualcuno?
[11:48] <moret> hi all
[11:49] <Den> !tell Den about ntfs
[11:56] <hawknig> anyone can tell me a debian repo to use?
[11:58] <Chousuke> Can't play sound in KDE. weirdish.
[11:59] <Kubuntu2396> Can anyone tell me what is a good prok to use as a proxyserver with Kubuntu
[12:05] <hawknig> I run kubuntu on a laptop and every 5-6 seconds a window like thing pops up saying "Display Changed: LCD on" or "Display Changed: LCD off" nothing happens to LCD but it keeps spamming what may be the reason?how can i get rid of this?
[12:09] <hawknig> :/
[12:17] <hawknig> no ideas?
[12:24] <alejandro> uhmmm hi!
[12:24] <Splinter> hello
[12:24] <alejandro> i just installed kubuntu and it seems that kate is crashing everytime!
[12:26] <alejandro> i got: "kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed."
[12:26] <alejandro> I thought maybe someone here knows how to solve that problem
[12:28] <jpatrick> alejandro_: what KDE is this?
[12:29] <Splinter> Alejandro, i just installed my Kubuntu yesterday and Kate works fine here.
[12:29] <alejandro_> wait
[12:29] <Splinter> what release did you install of Kubuntu?
[12:31] <alejandro_> lastest
[12:31] <alejandro_> just downloaded the iso yesterday
[12:32] <alejandro_> and made a dist-upgrade
[12:32] <Splinter> hmm, i have not dne a dist-upgrade i ran Adept and upgraded everything
[12:34] <Splinter> The only problem i have is the mouse pointer gfx is messed up in kdm and Firefox 1.5
[12:34] <alejandro_> dne?
[12:35] <Splinter> done :) sorry
[12:35] <Hobbsee> Splinter: there's a howto on ubuntuforums.org that fixes this
[12:35] <Hobbsee> !+firefox
[12:35] <ubotu> hmm... firefox is a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation. For firefox 1.5, look at !firefox1.5
[12:35] <Hobbsee> grr
[12:36] <alejandro_> well, the dist-upgrade went ok, but still crashes...
[12:36] <Splinter> try running Adept and look for upgrades for Kate, i don't know if it will help but worth a shot.
[12:37] <Hobbsee> Splinter: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78961&highlight=mouse+firefox
[12:37] <Splinter> Cheers Hobbsee, i'll see if i can find it
[12:37] <Hobbsee> what's the problem with kate?
[12:37] <Splinter> thanx :)
[12:37] <Hobbsee> Splinter: use the second solution, it's realy simple
[12:38] <Splinter> my mousepointer in firefox and kdm looks like a barcode.
[12:38] <alejandro_> Hobbsee: it crashes everytime
[12:39] <Hobbsee> use kwrite instead
[12:40] <alejandro_> whats the point...I want to use kate (no, I'm not childish ;) )
[12:42] <alejandro_> using 'kdesu -c "kate /etc/apt/sources.list" ' works fine thou+
[12:42] <alejandro_> $ kate -v
[12:42] <alejandro_> Qt: 3.3.4
[12:42] <alejandro_> KDE: 3.4.3
[12:42] <alejandro_> Kate: 2.4.1
[12:43] <alejandro_> plop! sorry
[12:43] <alejandro_> i was trying to paste and then edit the lines, sorry
[12:44] <pinucset> one think, i'm trying to submit a bug but in doesnt works after i click to continue after selection my OS
[12:44] <pinucset> (http://bugs.kde.org)
[12:47] <Splinter> Hobbsee, 2nd solution to the mouse issue for Firefox worked perfectly, thank you!
[12:47] <Hobbsee> Splinter: no problems :)
[12:47] <Splinter> was abit annoying trying to browse with a "barcode" :)
[12:48] <Hobbsee> hehe very true
[12:48] <Splinter> but i guess this sulution does not help in kdm?
[12:51] <pinucset> when i submit a bug it says: couldnt connect at http://bugs.kde.org/wizard.cgi:
[12:51] <pinucset> :S
[12:51] <pinucset> where can i say the bug? its important...
[12:53] <Hobbsee> pinucset: works here...
[12:54] <hawknig> when I open amarok it says Gstreamer Error ALSA device default is used by another process. How can i prevent this from happening I mean can't two programmes give sound at the same time?
[12:54] <pinucset> Hobbsee after selecting that i use Linux and saying my gcc version it starts downloading and finaly it says this error :S
[12:55] <Hobbsee> hmm
[12:58] <jpatrick> hawknig: sudo killall arts
[01:03] <hawknig> jpatrick : arts: no process killed
[01:03] <jpatrick> do you have the sound system enabled in System Settings?
[01:04] <aftertaf> hi Hobbsee :)
[01:04] <Hobbsee> hey aftertaf :)
[01:04] <aftertaf> last day on the job.. so i'll see when i can get on irc next ;)
[01:04] <aftertaf> <Big Arnie mode> I'll be back </Big Arnie mode>
[01:07] <Hobbsee> yay!
[01:08] <aftertaf> :)
[01:10] <jpatrick> ...packaging hell...
[01:12] <hawknig> jpatrick yeah
[01:13] <jpatrick> hawknig: I'm trying to build one
[01:13] <Hobbsee> hehe poor jpatrick
[01:13] <jpatrick> I've never used cdbs
[01:13] <Hobbsee> ah, and then trying to.  I havent either, i'm very new to all of this lol
[01:13] <hawknig> I just want to know how I can configure ALSA so that two programmes can play sound at the same time...
[01:13] <hawknig> how can i do that?
[01:23] <sambagirl> whiat is the kubuntu off topic channel name?
[01:27] <asraniel> does anyone know a good kde application that can capture videos from my tv card? kdetv is cool, but i cant save a film
[01:33] <flujan> exit
[01:46] <TooSad> hi
[01:46] <TooSad> who use kvideoencoder?
[01:46] <TooSad> $ kvideoencoder
[01:46] <TooSad> QFile::readLine: File not open
[01:46] <TooSad> Segmentation fault
[01:47] <TooSad> who can help me?
[01:51] <hawknig> any kubuntu laptop users around?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> hawknig: yes, more detail?
[01:54] <hawknig> Hobbsee : sometimes I get a window saying "Display Changed : LCD On/Off" it just pops-up and then closes.It happens more often sometimes.I just can't figure out why it occurs and how I can fix
[01:55] <Hobbsee> a hotkey that switches lcd on or off that you're hitting, maybe?  Not a clue
[01:56] <hawknig> how can i configure my hotkeys?
[01:59] <hawknig> Hobbsee: how can i configure my hotkeys?
[01:59] <Hobbsee> in system settings? i think?
[02:01] <hawknig> hmm lemme see
[02:02] <dark_suic> systemsettings -> international & Accesibility (or something like that)
[02:04] <TooSad> how can i repair a segmentation fault?
[02:10] <Raztafari> i've just fired up Kubuntu LiveCD ( DVD ), but only get 640x480, i have a Nvidia geforce 6800 LE gfx card. but didnt get the drivers to work yesterday, is there something else i can do?
[02:19] <mcquaid> hello, i can't seem to change file permissions in konq without getting an error
[02:19] <mcquaid> it still does it, but just gives error: with the file location
[02:19] <mcquaid> but i can't do multiple files because of the error
[02:43] <trekkor> how do i make mp3's playable in kubuntu?
[02:44] <CGA> hi all
[02:49] <Xemanth^> trekkor: dude, at least my kubuntu didn't need any tricks
[02:50] <Xemanth^> trekkor: maybe sudo apt-get install mpg123
[02:50] <_bubba> mine needs a few ....LoL
[02:51] <_bubba> but so far overall I am very very impressed with it
[02:51] <Xemanth^> at least xmms played all my mp3s without tricks :)
[02:52] <_bubba> yeah thats about all I still need to get going is multimedia apps
[02:53] <CGA> *anyone* had problems with the install of Kubuntu 5.10? i'm having troubles.
[02:53] <_bubba> well that and find a sure enough replacement for MS Office
[02:53] <_bubba> no not with the install, what kind of problems
[02:53] <Xemanth^> openoffice2 ?
[02:54] <_bubba> oo2 is nice but its not very feature rich, I would like to try out Suns Star Office
[02:54] <CGA> _bubba, it fils at system base installation and returns this error: System installation error: debbotstrap failed with an error (2) check /target/var/log/bootstrap for details. but i didn't manage to check that
[02:55] <CGA> *fails
[02:55] <_bubba> let me see if i can find something on it, i havent seen that before
[02:55] <CGA> ok thx
[02:56] <CGA> _bubba, btw someone told me that he had some probs with installing and had to change 3/4 cds before succed
[02:56] <CGA> this was yesterday
[02:56] <CGA> in this very channel
[02:56] <_bubba> i have seen cds (any ISO really) fail if they burned at a high speed
[02:57] <CGA> uhm.. i might try to burn one at low speed though
[02:57] <CGA> but wanna understand this error too
[02:59] <_bubba> CGA is this on a notebook?
[02:59] <_bubba> if so check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75430
[03:03] <CGA> _bubba, noppe, is on a 4 yrs old amd athlon xp 1600 , thx for that anyway
[03:03] <CGA> i'll checfk it out anyway
[03:07] <_bubba> CGA so far we have installed Kubuntu on 3 machines, the intial install has gone very well, a few things to work out but overall it works well it is worth the effort
[03:08] <CGA> _bubba, yes i agree && i 've used kubuntu warty and ha no probs, just can't understand why this is giving troubles
[03:36] <xaxxon> amarok doesn't work .. it won't properly scan for my mp3s (never seems to find them) and when I point it at a stream, it buffers, then buffers again, then buffers again...
[03:36] <xaxxon> but xmms plays fine
[03:37] <visik7> amarok get also .zip .rar .fsck if I give to it a dir
[03:37] <visik7> not only mp3 ogg <all_supported_format>
[03:37] <xaxxon> I name all my playlists playlist.fsck
[03:39] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[03:39] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[03:39] <xaxxon> kubuntu isn't very impressive so far :(  doesn't install with most of the stuff I use.. doesn't seem to do sound very well, and the installer would be an embarassment 5 years ago
[03:40] <Ti_Uhl> what repository do i have to add to be able to install the w32codecs package ?
[03:41] <_bubba> i used the automatix package to install the w32 codecs
[03:41] <Ti_Uhl> anyone ?
[03:41] <Ti_Uhl> _bubba: and what repository's does it add ?
[03:41] <Ti_Uhl> and can i use automatix with kubuntu ?
[03:41] <_bubba> i dont know  and yes you can there are versions of it for both ubuntu and kubuntu
[03:42] <Ti_Uhl> and where can i find automatix ?
[03:42] <stn> wget -c http://mplayer.ethz.ch/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[03:42] <_bubba> if you search for it on ubuntuforums.org you will find it
[03:42] <stn> wget -c http://mplayer.ethz.ch/MPlayer/releases/codecs/all-20050412.tar.bz2
[03:42] <stn> Descargalo por console
[03:44] <_bubba> nice where do you untar it to?
[03:57] <_bubba> when i fullscreen a video or dvd the picture stays the same size only the window gets larger, anyone have this problem?
[04:06] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[04:07] <Tm_T> o  k
[04:07] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: we are all missing you
[04:08] <vert> !seveas
[04:08] <ubotu> seveas is, like, totally, a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:19] <Aapzak> hi guys, I'm working and need a quick KDE answer, anyone willing to help me out?
[04:19] <Aapzak> I need to set environment variables, which need to be used in apps I start from the menu
[04:20] <Aapzak> kdesvn works fine from the shell, but not from the start menu, I have this in my .profile: SVN_SSH="ssh -i /home/<username>/.ssh/id_rsa_subversion"
[04:26] <NPC_Crys> what is the program I have to use to edit the sudoers list?
[04:28] <sproingie> visudo
[04:28] <NPC_Crys> thank you
[04:29] <NPC_Crys> visudo /etc/sudoers right?
[04:29] <NPC_Crys> nm
[04:30] <NPC_Crys> So I don't actually have to add people to this, right? I could just make them part of the admin group.
[04:30] <Aapzak> visudo
[04:30] <Aapzak> no filename
[04:30] <NPC_Crys> Yeah. I figured out how to edit it
[04:31] <Aapzak> k
[04:31] <Aapzak> add groups, like %wheel
[04:31] <NPC_Crys> But I don't really have to edit it to add make it so people can sudo su, do I? I can just add them to %admin while in kusers
[04:32] <vert> Aapzak: good question.. maybe kde does not spawn a bash shell and so does not read your .profile... but dunno where to set the var for kde specificly
[04:33] <NPC_Crys> Cya.
[04:33] <Aapzak> NPC_Crys: I'm not familiar with the Kubuntu admin groups in sudoers
[04:34] <Aapzak> hmmz
[04:34] <Aapzak> vert: it works when I start konsole
[04:34] <Aapzak> and in konsole type kdesvn, so at that point my .profile is being read.
[04:35] <Aapzak> but launching from the KDE menu does not invoke .profile I think
[04:35] <vert> Aapzak: yup
[04:38] <Aapzak> lemme try kde-devel
[04:56] <Aapzak> no answer in kde-devel, got no more time, gt run. ciao!
[05:01] <syl> hi
[05:06] <britt> hello
[05:06] <britt> ^^
[05:07] <britt> hmm,isnt anybody here? xD
[05:15] <AnObfuscator> Can anyone recommend a good wireless USB adapter with good linux support?
[05:27] <DevGet> Hi! Is KDE 3.5 in breezy stable?
[05:30] <laser_tk> !skype
[05:30] <ubotu> somebody said skype was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:57] <syl> hi... i want to get ksocrat-data package from multiverse but apt-get can't find it there though i can see it in Packages.gz file
[05:58] <andreas_> hi! using kubuntu dapper, how can I make fglrx work?
[06:03] <andreas_> hehe
[06:13] <C-O-L-T> I AM BACK
[06:21] <_mac> yop
[06:43] <noodz> hey, i tried to install a theme and now kde freezes on the last part of the loading screen, "Restoring Session"... how can i manually edit it back to the default theme so it will load?
[06:55] <jjesse> is there a way in adept that shows from what repository (main, universe, multiverse, etc) that i am installing an applicatio nfrom?
[07:10] <calidad> Hola gurs del Kubuntu
[07:11] <robotgeek> !es
[07:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:11] <robotgeek> calidad: :)
[07:11] <calidad> me estoy iniciando en linux con esta distro
[07:11] <calidad> feliz 2006 a todos
[07:11] <robotgeek> calidad: which language do you speak, this is a english only channel
[07:12] <calidad> sorry.... i was in spanish
[07:12] <robotgeek> calidad: no problem, try #kubuntu-es
[07:13] <calidad> how make it? how change to that?
[07:13] <robotgeek> calidad: /join #kubuntu-es
[07:14] <calidad> but where i mus put that??
[07:14] <robotgeek> calidad: what client are you using? konversation?
[07:14] <calidad> yes
[07:16] <robotgeek> calidad: just type that in your chat window
[07:17] <calidad> thanks a lot robotgek... ciao
[07:17] <robotgeek> calidad: no problem
[07:19] <vert> andreas_: you still have the issue with fglrx + dapper?
[07:24] <minoss> Elo everyone
[07:25] <robotgeek> hey minoss
[07:27] <landerro> can sb help me with installing firefox 1.5?
[07:28] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell landerro about firefox1.5
[07:29] <landerro> i followed the steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion but I can't start it
[07:29] <robotgeek> landerro: what architecture are you using ppc/x86/amd64
[07:29] <landerro> amd64
[07:30] <robotgeek> landerro: i think those instructions are for x86, lemme check
[07:30] <neoncode> Hey linux keeps crashing on me...
[07:31] <landerro> robotgeek: where can I find the instructions for amd64?
[07:31] <neoncode> I dunno what's up with it... Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does nothing.
[07:32] <neoncode> Can anyone help? are there any other Quick escape shortcuts exept Ctrl+Alt+Backspace?
[07:33] <landerro> robotgeek: where can I find the instructions for am?d
[07:33] <robotgeek> landerro: i don't see any builds for amd64
[07:33] <landerro> damn
[07:33] <landerro> oke thx
[07:34] <jkop> but y don't "apt" firefox ?
[07:36] <robotgeek> jkop: i don't think it has been backported yet
[07:37] <jkop> k sry
[07:38] <robotgeek> jkop: no need to be sorry :)
[07:38] <dark_suic> well, firfox1.5 is said that won't be in official repos...
[07:39] <robotgeek> dark_suic: it's already in dapper
[07:39] <visik7> how long does it take to create packages of kde ?
[07:39] <visik7> I mean
[07:39] <dark_suic> is it? well, at least in breezy isnt :P
[07:39] <visik7> when a new version come out
[07:40] <_larsivi> visik7: as long as it takes to compile
[07:40] <robotgeek> heh
[07:40] <visik7> really ? so little time ? no time to create debian/ struct ?
[07:41] <robotgeek> visik7: you compile them using the debian structure
[07:41] <visik7> I got it from kubuntu.org/packages/kde35
[07:41] <robotgeek> visik7: you should take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[07:42] <visik7> ok I'll do
[07:42] <robotgeek> visik7: why do i get the feeling that we are talking abt something else?
[07:43] <visik7> robotgeek:  I just want to know how long it takes to have packages of 3.5.1 in kubuntu.org/packages/ after the 20th of jan when 3.5.1 will be out
[07:43] <robotgeek> visik7: i think kde4 is already in dapper
[07:44] <Tm_T> robotgeek: prolly not
[07:44] <visik7> kde4 isn't out
[07:44] <larsivi> visik7: it usually happens within the first 24 hours
[07:44] <visik7> larsivi: thanks
[07:44] <robotgeek> Tm_T: hmm, okay.
[07:44] <Tm_T> robotgeek: KDE4 won't be out until ... next cristmas I think
[07:44] <robotgeek> Tm_T: hmm, i think i got confused with something else then
[07:44] <Tm_T> ok, maybe in 6.10 but not earlier
[07:44] <larsivi> KDE4 still has dependencies on Qt3
[07:45] <larsivi> That is, it isn't really usable for anything yet
[07:45] <Tm_T> vert: ofcourse
[07:45] <visik7> is ubuntu compiled for 686 or 486 ?
[07:45] <robotgeek> vert: i too have dapper, but i havent paid attention :)
[07:45] <Tm_T> larsivi: kate almost works
[07:46] <larsivi> Tm-T: Yeah, I'm aware that some apps sortof works
[07:46] <larsivi> But no new things are really implemented yet, they are still porting
[07:46] <Tm_T> larsivi: and Kopete! some protocols compiles (but apparently doesn't work really =))
[07:46] <longnam> HI all, I need help. Can someone please tell me how to disable USB automounting ??? when I pluggin my USB stick, there is a window open automaticly. How Can I disable that ??
[07:46] <larsivi> Tm_T: heh, I'll htink I'll switch right now then ;)
[07:47] <visik7> longnam: somewhere in controlpanel
[07:47] <visik7> longnam: let me check
[07:47] <Tm_T> larsivi: I would if I just get kdelibs4 compiled
[07:47] <longnam> visik7: please thanks
[07:47] <larsivi> longnam: The next time, just check the box at the bottom where it says "Don't do it"
[07:47] <visik7> longnam: ok got it
[07:48] <visik7> longnam: devices-> storage devices-> advanced
[07:48] <longnam> larsivi: oh ok
[07:48] <longnam> visik7: uh huh
[07:48] <visik7> longnam: dunno if it correct 'couse I'm translating from my language
[07:48] <visik7> but more or less is there
[07:48] <longnam> ok let me write it down, thanks visik7 !
[07:48] <Tm_T> larsivi: now I have to use dev-0.12 Kopete :(
[07:48] <larsivi> Tm_T: I'll probably try the snapshot soon, I really want to use yzis (got an account on that project, but don't really have the time to help :P)
[07:49] <Tm_T> aye
[07:49] <larsivi> Tm_T: does that version of Kopete let you send animated smileys back to msn?
[07:49] <Tm_T> if you get it working, hit me
[07:49] <Tm_T> larsivi: hope not, not yet atleast
[07:49] <Tm_T> and msn plugin is borked atm anyway =)
[07:50] <Tm_T> bit borked
[07:50] <larsivi> Tm_T: the msn plugin is the most important for me, I know almost none other using linux at all :)
[07:51] <Tm_T> larsivi: heh, it's still under development, so porkage was expected ;)
[07:52] <larsivi> Tm_T: Well, I got the 0.11 version, it mostly works fine, but it annoys me I can't send animated stuff back :P
[07:52] <Tm_T> larsivi: I hate animated stuff
[07:52] <Tm_T> if I like to use kids stuff, I use winXP
[07:52] <larsivi> lol
[07:52] <Tm_T> ;--P
[07:52] <larsivi> I'm just trying to get back at them :)
[07:53] <larsivi> And the gals thinks they are cute ;)
[07:53] <longnam> I have another question, when I compile Mplayer from the source, I can't using gcc version 4.0. Its asking for version 3.2 or something. Can I install Gcc 3.2 at the same time to compile Mplayer. Will cause any problem if i have 2 compilers in the same box ??
[07:53] <Tm_T> larsivi: so?
[07:53] <Tm_T> longnam: use 3.4
[07:53] <robotgeek> longnam: yes
[07:54] <Tm_T> and I use them both
[07:54] <larsivi> Tm_T: hmm, good question, why would I care about that?
[07:54] <longnam> robotgeek: so i shouldn't have 2 compilers installed ??
[07:55] <Tm_T> larsivi: who cares about gals, you have linux at front of you man!
[07:55] <longnam> tmt: did you have any problem with other software ??
[07:55] <larsivi> lol
[07:55] <Tm_T> longnam: I compiled my mplayer with 3.4
[07:55] <robotgeek> longnam: you can have 2/any number of compilers installed
[07:55] <sorush21> why isn't kpackge able use my pass word as the root password?
[07:55] <Tm_T> larsivi: no, it's not funny, serious!
[07:55] <larsivi> Tm_T: It's nice having someone to convert, you know
[07:56] <longnam> tmt: so it shouldn't be a problem then... thank you
[07:56] <longnam> thanks robotgeek. !!
[07:56] <Tm_T> larsivi: repeat this: "I have linux, I love linux, I use linux, I think linux"
[07:56] <longnam> tmt: lolz
[07:57] <Riddell> sorush21: it needs a root password to be set
[07:57] <Tm_T> larsivi: epeat until you can't get voice out anymore
[07:57] <Tm_T> +r
[07:57] <larsivi> Tm_T: Hmm, no
[07:57] <skbera> Hello everyone
[07:57] <DaSkreech> how do I free the alsa engine?
[07:58] <skbera> I am very new to Kubuntu Linux. I can't login as root. Please help me.
[07:58] <Riddell> !root
[07:58] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[07:58] <larsivi> skbera: sudo
[07:59] <longnam> I just installed Kubuntu on my laptop Toshiba M40. My network card is  Marvell Yukon 88E8036. For some reason the driver isn't working. How can I fix this ?
[07:59] <yuco> i'm having trouble setting up a static ip with kcontrol, does anyone know any other way to do it?
[07:59] <Riddell> yuco: what's the trouble?
[07:59] <larsivi> longnam: Are you running breezy?
[08:00] <longnam> larsivi: yes i am
[08:00] <longnam> the lastest version  i think
[08:00] <DaSkreech> _m0ns00n: Hello
[08:00] <yuco> van Riddel: when i set it to a static ip, it can connect to the LAN, but not to the internet
[08:00] <yuco> even though i have entered the gateway ip
[08:01] <larsivi> longnam: It worked out of the box for me
[08:01] <Riddell> yuco: there's a problem with it saving the gateway, you either need to use the KDE 3.5 packages (which I've fixed it) or edit /etc/network/interfaces manually
[08:01] <larsivi> In previous versions I had to recompile the kernel
[08:01] <sorush21> is there an easy way to convertt mp3 files into wav fiiles to be run and burned on to the computer
[08:01] <longnam> larsivi: really ?? i don't know why it isn't on mine  :(
[08:01] <yuco> ok, thanks Riddel
[08:01] <Riddell> sorush21: k3b-mp3 lets you burn mp3 files from k3b
[08:02] <larsivi> longnam: do you use the sk98lin driver, ver 8.23.1.3?
[08:02] <larsivi> longnam: I have a Tecra A3, btw
[08:03] <longnam> i tried to recompile it  but i can't cuz  I can't install the compiler without internet
[08:03] <longnam> i did try  to get sk98lin driver  but i can't recompile it
[08:03] <larsivi> longnam: I DO have problems with the wireless though, as I can't get WPA working
[08:03] <longnam> i'm using  toshiba Latitude M40
[08:03] <larsivi> Latitude? isn't that Dell?
[08:05] <skbera> I have one more problem. I have changed the root password. Before changing the root password I can do the administrative jobs using my user password but now I can'. Please help me.
[08:05] <longnam> I mean satellite pro
[08:05] <longnam> sorry
[08:05] <longnam> where is my mind .
[08:05] <longnam> Satellite pro M40  Larsivi.
[08:05] <larsivi> longnam: Sounds more like it ;)
[08:06] <jtd> hey guys.  is there a netboot image for kubuntu?
[08:06] <brainiac_ghost> hi
[08:06] <brainiac_ghost> can rt2500 wireless cards be auto started at boot
[08:06] <brainiac_ghost> ?
[08:06] <longnam> larsivi: how did u recompile the driver without the compiler  ?
[08:06] <larsivi> longnam: I didn't in breezy
[08:06] <jtd> brainiac_ghost: I have the same problem with my ipw2200.  weird.
[08:06] <jtd> cb
[08:06] <robotgeek> brainiac_ghost: add rt2500 to /etc/modules
[08:07] <brainiac_ghost> jtd, it is the one reason i don't install kubuntu
[08:07] <brainiac_ghost> robotgeek, is that all
[08:07] <robotgeek> brainiac_ghost: yes
[08:07] <longnam> Kubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger)  <-- this is the version i installed on my laptop
[08:07] <brainiac_ghost> hmm
[08:07] <brainiac_ghost> great
[08:07] <brainiac_ghost> :D
[08:07] <brainiac_ghost> /etc/modules or /etc/modules-autoload.d/kernel-2.6
[08:07] <larsivi> longnam: go to konsole and write "dmesg | grep 'sk98lin' ", see what it says
[08:08] <longnam> larsivi:  i did " lsmod " and i see  sk98lin  there on the list of module
[08:08] <longnam> but i can't get the ip from my router
[08:09] <larsivi> longnam: using dmesg, you should get the version number of your sk98lin
[08:09] <longnam> i don't have my laptop here right now. I'll do it tonight when I get home from work. what version you think it should works?
[08:09] <larsivi> mine is 8.23.1.3
[08:10] <brainiac_ghost> does the bootsplash show on a normal install
[08:10] <brainiac_ghost> and what res is it
[08:10] <longnam> larsivi: if it doesn't work, is there a way to install the compiler without internet access ?
[08:10] <longnam> I want to recompile the driver but i can't do it
[08:10] <brainiac_ghost> amd64 or i386
[08:10] <larsivi> longnam: I suppose not, unless you can get the packages on a cd
[08:10] <longnam> tried to get it from the CD but doesn't work for some reasons.
[08:12] <larsivi> longnam: did you try to run dhclient from konsole?
[08:12] <longnam> yeah
[08:12] <longnam> i did
[08:12] <larsivi> ok
[08:13] <skbera> Is there any good P2P (torrrent) client available for Kubuntu?
[08:13] <larsivi> ktorrent
[08:14] <larsivi> should be in your Internet menu
[08:14] <skbera> I need a highly configurable torrent client.
[08:14] <larsivi> Or at least available from Adept..
[08:14] <larsivi> search for torrent in Adept
[08:14] <larsivi> for other clients
[08:15] <skbera> I need something like BitTorrent for windows version.
[08:15] <brainiac_ghost> 64 or 32 bit kubuntu
[08:15] <jtd> ok.  let's see if netboot works.  I have my doubts.
[08:16] <larsivi> I've used bittornado as a commandline tool
[08:16] <Jaymac> skbera..
[08:16] <Jaymac> what is wrong with the BitTorrent Linux client?
[08:16] <skbera> 32 bit kubuntu
[08:16] <Jaymac> you can grab a deb off bittorrent.com but it should be in repositories anyway
[08:17] <brainiac_ghost> skbera, why
[08:17] <larsivi> skbera: install packages bittorrent and bittorrent-gui using Adept and you're set
[08:18] <skbera> Is it allow searching from within the client.
[08:18] <larsivi> you'll have to check for your self :)
[08:19] <skbera> Thankyou very much for your help. I will check it.
[08:21] <brainiac_ghost> skbera, why 32 bit
[08:21] <brainiac_ghost> why not 64 bit
[08:22] <skbera> I have a little old system with celeron 1.2 GHz processor.
[08:24] <brainiac_ghost> :)
[08:24] <brainiac_ghost> what should i use
[08:24] <brainiac_ghost> i have a 64 bit processor
[08:26] <skbera> OK. Bye.
[08:26] <longnam> larsivi: so  no luck for me with the network card driver eh ?
[08:28] <larsivi> longnam: It might be something else that conflicts
[08:29] <larsivi> you should really check dmesg for version and if eth0 really is set up on that device
[08:32] <ffrnk> can someone help me out with getting a prnter to work
[08:32] <ffrnk> this easy task is turning into a project
[08:32] <longnam> larsivi: i'll come back tonight thanks for your helps
[08:39] <vert> !fixres
[08:39] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:40] <ffrnk> !printer
[08:40] <ubotu> methinks printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[08:45] <markc> I'm trying to run a python/gnome app but I get -> ImportError: No module named gtkhtml2
[08:45] <markc> there is a gtkhtml but no gtkhtml2 package, any clues what to do ?
[08:46] <markc> install dapper flight 2 perhaps ? anyone know if gtkhtml2 is available in dapper ?
[08:51] <onami> hello, how to you do this in a make file:  CFLAGS="$CFLAGS `pkg-config --cflags openssl`"   ?
[09:00] <Lander-Away> I installed firefox, but it seems this doesn't work on a amd64. how do i restore the older version of firefox?
[09:08] <landerro> hello?
[09:08] <larsivi> hello landerro
[09:08] <landerro> how can I restore the old version of firefox?
[09:08] <alberto> hi all
[09:10] <landerro> sorry, i think I already see it
[09:10] <sas171> hi, how to get ark work with rar? i installed unrar-free but he wanted a link in the PATH, so I made a link unrar-free->unrar, he says "An error occurred while trying to open the archive " now. Did you get ark+rar?
[09:12] <sas171> nobody?
[09:13] <sas171> thereis no answer in the forums too, so ill just use file-roller for rar (
[09:13] <dark_suic> sas
[09:13] <dark_suic> sas171,
[09:13] <dark_suic> you have to install unrar-nonfree
[09:14] <dark_suic> unrar doesn't work properly
[09:14] <dark_suic> but unrar-nonfree does
[09:14] <dark_suic> it's in universe i th ink
[09:14] <sas171> dark_suic: hm, thanks for the help
[09:14] <dark_suic> nevermind :)
[09:32] <_tyrell> ciao a tutti
[09:33] <_tyrell> a chi posso fare una domanda su sourceslist
[09:33] <_tyrell> non riesco a editarlo in modo da poter aggiornare kde 3.5
[09:33] <landerro> 
[09:33] <dark_suic> english plz...
[09:34] <_tyrell> oops sorry
[09:34] <dark_suic> :P
[09:34] <_tyrell> who can help me editing sourceslist in /etc/apt
[09:34] <_tyrell> ?
[09:35] <landerro> 
[09:35] <kkathman> _tyrell what do you need?
[09:35] <kkathman> !sources
[09:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:35] <kkathman> !easysource
[09:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:35] <_tyrell> I can't get as administrator user while editing
[09:36] <_tyrell> is there a way to do it through KDE?
[09:36] <kkathman> _tyrell  use alt-f2 then type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:36] <_tyrell> wait I'll try
[09:38] <_tyrell> ok it did work I'll now see if adept can get KDE 3.5 for me
[09:39] <larsivi> _tyrell: adept has it's own source editor, btw
[09:39] <kkathman> _tyrell be sure to do a sudo apt-get update   after ANY changes to your sources
[09:39] <lightstruck> anybody know why glxgears doesn't give feedback anymore?
[09:40] <lightstruck> not a big deal I was just curious
[09:40] <_tyrell> what is sudo apt-get update for?
[09:41] <lightstruck> to update your repository download list
[09:41] <dark_suic> lightstruck, you mean that glxgears doesn't show fps?
[09:41] <angasule> I have subtitles in .srt format, but they are too small to be read, I'm looking for a subtitle editor program but I only see 3 subtitle rippers in the repos
[09:41] <lightstruck> dark_suic: yea it just doesn't show fps like it used to.  Though fgl_gears does
[09:41] <_tyrell> ok I'm now upgrading to KDE 3.5
[09:42] <dark_suic> lightstruck, the command is still the same, but you need an addit parameter to show fps... hang on a sec...
[09:42] <dark_suic> glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[09:42] <_tyrell> where and when can I use alt+f2 in KDE?
[09:42] <dark_suic> i know it sounds like a joke, but if you try u will see it's not
[09:42] <lightstruck> lol I thought that was a joke in the forums
[09:42] <dark_suic> _tyrell, it's supposed that u always can
[09:42] <dark_suic> lightstruck, it isn't :P
[09:42] <_tyrell> ok
[09:42] <_tyrell> and what for?
[09:42] <dark_suic> for opening new apps?
[09:43] <_tyrell> to send a comand in a virtual invisible terminal?
[09:43] <lightstruck> I appreciate it dark_suic
[09:43] <_tyrell> so is not ne kind of command?
[09:43] <dark_suic> i suppose :p
[09:43] <_tyrell> ok
[09:43] <dark_suic> well, the first time i saw it i didn't even read the command, i just copy pasted :P
[09:44] <dark_suic> after that, i realised what it was written there :p
[09:44] <_tyrell> can I ask u another newbie thing?
[09:44] <dark_suic> u can, other thing is if i can answer it :P
[09:44] <lightstruck> do you know why they changed it?  Its a great way for me to know if ati drivers worked or not
[09:45] <_tyrell> how do I change the icon of the Firefox link I got on the wallpaper? is there an interface way to do it or it is all through comands?
[09:45] <dark_suic> lightstruck, just don't know, i think that this has something to do with the message
[09:46] <dark_suic> _tyrell, right click -> properties -> click on the icon in the properties windows
[09:46] <dark_suic> window*
[09:46] <lightstruck> :P point taken
[09:46] <dark_suic> :P i suppose that people would have used it for benchmarking (and it's not a good tool for that, because they're only wheels spinning :P)
[09:47] <angasule> dark_suic: if you only want to benchmark spinning wheels, it's ok :)
[09:47] <larsivi> lightstruck, dark_suic: and ati and nvidia are notorius for fooling all benchmarks
[09:47] <angasule> any single value is 'wrong' when benchmarking 3d cards, anyway
[09:47] <dark_suic> well, yes, but usually what u want to benchmark is the graphic card ;)
[09:47] <lightstruck> amen to that
[09:48] <angasule> I doubt they've bothered to fool glxgears, though
[09:48] <lightstruck> is there a good benchmarking tool for linux currently in the repos or one I can compile?
[09:48] <dark_suic> yep... just think that the -iack... it's just a bad thing... i just aliased it when i saw that it worked :P
[09:48] <angasule> lightstruck: hmm, do your own, really, the 3d benchmarks I've seen are a joke
[09:49] <angasule> no subtitle editor available at all in kubuntu? :(
[09:50] <_tyrell> it doesnt  gimme ne icon in the properties window when I click on the icon
[09:51] <lightstruck> I was stuck on linux after I tried ubuntu, and after I found out about kubuntu I haven't turned this thing off.  Or stood up now that I think about it
[09:52] <_tyrell> so dark_suic can u help me?
[09:52] <_tyrell> or can ne1 else?
[09:52] <lightstruck> :*) its a beautiful thing
[09:53] <dark_suic> hang on a sec, _tyrell
[09:53] <lightstruck> _tyrell: tell me what icon you're looking for exactly or whats missing
[09:53] <dark_suic> _tyrell, if you click on properties, a window appear, and the icon it now has (a blakn paper, or the firefox symbol) has to appear in that window...
[09:54] <dark_suic> it should be around there... i've just tried...
[09:54] <_tyrell> I want to replace the KDE shell script icon on my Firefox link on wallpaper
[09:55] <_tyrell> when I rightclick and enter properties it doesn't gimme ne option about the icon
[09:55] <dark_suic> _tyrell, it doesn't have to have an option, the icon appears in the properties window?
[09:55] <dark_suic> inside the window?
[09:56] <_tyrell> wait
[09:56] <_tyrell> let's get it back to the start
[09:56] <_tyrell> which properties window are u talkin about?
[09:57] <dark_suic> :P
[09:57] <dark_suic> let's see
[09:57] <dark_suic> the desktop, ok?
[09:57] <dark_suic> the icon on the desktop, isn't there?
[09:57] <_tyrell> it is
[09:57] <_tyrell> but is a script shell ico
[09:57] <dark_suic> that doesn't mind (i think :P)
[09:57] <_tyrell> ok
[09:57] <dark_suic> right click on it -> properties
[09:57] <_tyrell> ok
[09:57] <dark_suic> a windows appears
[09:58] <dark_suic> window *
[09:58] <_tyrell> yea
[09:58] <dark_suic> ok
[09:58] <dark_suic> the same icon is inside the window?
[09:58] <_tyrell> yea
[09:58] <dark_suic> click on it
[09:58] <_tyrell> nothing
[09:58] <_tyrell> is just an image
[09:58] <_tyrell> nor right or left click works on it in neway
[09:59] <dark_suic> ok
[09:59] <dark_suic> that's what i thought :P
[09:59] <dark_suic> here clicking on the icon works
[09:59] <lightstruck> is kde 3.5 this hard to upgrade to?
[09:59] <dark_suic> lightstruck, adding the kubuntu repo and apt-get update -> apt-get upgrade should just work
[09:59] <_tyrell> I'm doing it
[10:00] <lightstruck> thats what I was thinking
[10:00] <_tyrell> ok
[10:00] <_tyrell> then this problem will be solved soon
[10:00] <lightstruck> if I used automatix will it have added that repo to my sources list?
[10:00] <divansantana> lightstruck: don't forget after upgrade to kde3.5 to apt-get remove ivman !
[10:02] <_david> how well does bastille linux work with kubuntu?
[10:02] <_tyrell> can I do that with that alt+f2 thing?
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Smb doesn't seem to work :(
[10:03] <DaSkreech> I can see files but can't stream/copy/inspect them
[10:04] <dark_suic> divansantana, why has ivman to be removed after installing kde3.5?
[10:05] <lightstruck> alright guys I guess I have to to turn it off now for work.  Everybody have a good(insert your time of day here)!
[10:05] <Riddell> dark_suic: it's not needed any more kde 3.5 has its own mounter
[10:05] <Sgep> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[10:05] <lightstruck> thanks for the help too everyone
[10:05] <Sgep> Happened in a sudo apt-get update
[10:05] <lightstruck> later
[10:05] <dark_suic> i don't even know what is ivman :P
[10:05] <dark_suic> well, think i will man it now and remove it later :P
[10:05] <DaSkreech> I'm pulling them from a Windows machine and doesn't ask for a password when I connect but if I drop a file to stream in Amarok it instannly asks for a password
[10:06] <landerro> how can I upgrade KDE to 3.5? Just by installing kde with Adept (apt-get)?
[10:06] <nightmare1989> buh!!!!!!!!!
[10:07] <DaSkreech> topic
[10:09] <landerro> oke, I already found it
[10:09] <Java_the_Hutt> I am trying to install Automatrix, but it requires a pacakge called Zenity. I can find the package anywhere, what can i do ?
[10:10] <_torkel> anyone having problems with kdebluetooth-irmcsync when using kde 3.5 packages in breezy? :/
[10:10] <_torkel> i cant seem to install them due to dependency problems
[10:10] <ilba7r> zenity is with gnome let me check what package have it
[10:11] <Java_the_Hutt> also do you suggest using Automatrix ?
[10:13] <dark_suic> automatrix looooooooooooool
[10:15] <Java_the_Hutt> what is funny about it
[10:16] <divansantana> its automatix
[10:16] <Java_the_Hutt> oh okay sorry
[10:16] <divansantana> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105343
[10:17] <Java_the_Hutt> so anyway should i use it ?
[10:17] <_tyrell> ok guys
[10:17] <_tyrell> I'm on 3.5 now
[10:18] <_tyrell> but the icon thing still does not work
[10:21] <_david> I've seen the nvidia drivers using adept. if these drivers are there, how come kubuntu doesnt discover the graphiccard and use them?
[10:21] <Chousuke> the drivers are non-free
[10:21] <Chousuke> Kubuntu ships with only free software.
[10:22] <_david> ahh
[10:30] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[10:31] <DaSkreech> if I delete my var/**/apt/**/lock I should be able to use apt-based apps again?
[10:33] <Java_the_Hutt> i am trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support. But it complaines about unmet dependencies. What can i do ?
[10:36] <Java_the_Hutt> can anyone help me for mp3 support
[10:37] <DaSkreech> !mp3
[10:37] <ubotu> well, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:37] <nalioth> Java_the_Hutt: do you have any non ubuntu repos in your sources.list?
[10:37] <DaSkreech> hi nalioth
[10:37] <nalioth> howdy DaSkreech
[10:38] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: i guess so, KDE things
[10:38] <nalioth> Java_the_Hutt: non k/ubuntu repos can cause this to happen
[10:38] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: shall i remove them ?
[10:38] <nalioth> Java_the_Hutt: if you are able, comment those repos out (kubuntu.org is OK) and run apt-get -f install
[10:39] <nalioth> Java_the_Hutt: non k/ubuntu repos can cause your box to break
[10:40] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: just the KDE3.5 and it is kubuntu.org
[10:40] <nalioth> Java_the_Hutt: then you should have no problems using apt-get to install your mp3 stuff
[10:40] <Knowerrors> Hey all, on Firefox 1.07 I keep getting "Document Contains No Data" on some websites, Im on dialup, so its probably due to my slow connection, is there any way to stop this timeout problem?
[10:41] <nalioth> Knowerrors: if you are willing "about:config" has options you can change. i suggest you ask uncle google first (cuz if you change the wrong thing, it'll kill your firefox)
[10:42] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: here's my sources file : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6688
[10:46] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Saw that KDE4 will have e support?
[10:46] <_torkel> e support?
[10:47] <nalioth> DaSkreech: "e" ?
[10:47] <DaSkreech> It supports Enlightment themes and .edj and Mac OSZ Dashboard
[10:47] <DaSkreech> OSX
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Sorry. E
[10:47] <osh_> Is there something that I need for emacs to make it "grasp" the idea of python files? Syntax highlight and such?
[10:47] <nalioth> ah. DaSkreech
[10:48] <nalioth> Java_the_Hutt: you may wish to enable multiverse in your repos (lots of audio/video codecs there) just change every instance of 'universe' to 'universe multiverse'
[10:49] <jayjay> Can anybody here help with mounting a USB external drive?
[10:50] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: have just done it
[10:50] <osh_> jayjay: Perhaps. What's the prob?
[10:50] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: still same
[10:50] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: it brought some additional things of couse , also gives error with secuirty
[10:51] <jayjay> I just installed Kubuntu. I have a Seagate 80g external USB drive. I hook the drive up, but the system doesnt see it. I have usbutils and pmount installed
[10:51] <osh_> jayjay: what does dmesg say?
[10:52] <Java_the_Hutt> nalioth: may be it is because i am using the main mirror,
[10:52] <nalioth> Java_the_Hutt: tack on 'universe multiverse' to the aft of the security lines
[10:52] <jayjay> Im not say what you are asking? Please forgive me as Im new to Ubu and Debian. Mandriva had tools for this that must have spoiled me :(
[10:54] <osh_> jayjay: Ok. How do you start it? Try starting konqueror and then the hardware devices from there. Don't use the system-thingy (to the right of the start-menu).
[10:54] <osh_> jayjay: if that doesn't work. start a shell and type dmesg and tell me the last 5 lines.
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299312.722000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299315.784000]  usb 4-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299330.947000]  usb 4-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299331.110000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 8
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299334.172000]  usb 4-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299349.335000]  usb 4-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299349.498000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299359.900000]  usb 4-3: device not accepting address 9, error -110
[10:56] <jayjay> [4299359.962000]  usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 1                             0
[10:56] <jayjay> sorry for flood
[10:57] <jayjay> [4299370.364000]  usb 4-3: device not accepting address 10, error -110
[10:57] <osh_> jayjay: does it say something about "device sd...something"?
[10:57] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[10:57] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:58] <osh_> jayjay: and for next flood, use kubuntu.pastebin.com
[10:59] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:01] <jayjay> I dont see it anywhere Osh
[11:01] <osh_> jayjay: could you paste the whole dmesg to a pastebin?
[11:01] <jayjay> yes...can you tell me how to do that?
[11:01] <jayjay> sorry, am an IRC noob as well
[11:02] <Hobbsee> Jaymac: copy the stuff from the terminal, paste it in the big blank space on the pastebin site, then hit send :P
[11:03] <Hobbsee> jayjay: : you know how to copy and paste?
[11:03] <Hobbsee> oops, wrong nick lol
[11:03] <jayjay> hehe...yes, that much I do know :)
[11:04] <C-O-L-T> who can help me
[11:04] <C-O-L-T> So I have both KDE and GNOME in ubuntu
[11:04] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: no one, until you say your problem
[11:05] <C-O-L-T> I can plaz everything in kde using totem engines
[11:05] <C-O-L-T> but in gnome
[11:05] <Jaymac> Hobbsee.. what now?
[11:05] <C-O-L-T> i can not play any media with rythmbox
[11:05] <Jaymac> Oh, you were talking to jayjay?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> Jaymac: sorry, got the wrong nickname - it's still early here!
[11:05] <jayjay> do I put osh_ in the Name field on the page?
[11:05] <Hobbsee> jayjay: no, just stick jayjay in the name field
[11:06] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: ?
[11:06] <C-O-L-T> opinion
[11:07] <jayjay> done
[11:07] <Hobbsee> jayjay: and post the link to it in here :P
[11:07] <jayjay> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6691
[11:09] <dissed> anyone who knows what this means?
[11:09] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: probably better to ask all gnome related problems in #ubuntu
[11:09] <dissed> conf.c:850: warning: implicit declaration of function gtk_init
[11:09] <dissed> make: *** [conf.o] 
[11:09] <Hobbsee> dissed: paste the entire file to pastebin
[11:09] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: i am doing right that :)
[11:10] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: but check the engine that rythmbox is using - make sure it's not using esd or something
[11:11] <dissed> Hobbsee: pastebin?
[11:11] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:11] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I will
[11:13] <dissed> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6692
[11:13] <osh_> jayjay: sorry, away for a bit. back now
[11:13] <dissed> anyone who could help me with that?
[11:18] <dissed> anyone?
[11:25] <divansantana> dissed: what are you trying to do?
[11:25] <dissed> running a make to compile a plugin for a playstation emulator
[11:29] <divansantana> dissed:good luck!
[11:29] <dissed> thanks, cant seem to get it working though
[11:30] <divansantana> dissed:I cant really help with that sorry...
[11:31] <dissed> thanks anyway
[11:32] <osh_> jayjay: Unplug the disk. Restart it (make sure it't on). Plug it in again. Then look at dmesg again. What does it say then?
[11:33] <rjb> hi folks, i have a (dumb?) question
[11:33] <_nicklas> Hello, can i login as root in kubuntu? When i try to, it just says login failed...
[11:33] <divansantana> rjb: What is it?
[11:33] <rjb> is an amd Turion a k8?
[11:34] <rjb> i mean, ubuntu installed the amd64-generic kernel on my Turion machine
[11:34] <rjb> but i see there also exists an amd64-k8 linux-image
[11:35] <rjb> would that work any better for me?
[11:35] <divansantana> _nicklas: You can if you really wanted to but its really not a good thing. There is no need. You do everything through kdesu or sudo read the wiki of sudo
[11:36] <divansantana> rjb:not sure! Maybe check out the AMD website for its specs?Else maybe someone here know...? try channel #ubuntu as well!
[11:37] <rjb> fyi, a turion is an amd64 cpu designed for laptops
[11:37] <_nicklas> divansantana: allright, just tried kdesu, and it was just what i was looking for.. THX!
[11:39] <divansantana> _nicklas: no prob!
[11:40] <divansantana> rjb: Cool thanks for that! So you going to install the amd64-k8 linux-image then?
[11:40] <_tyrell> excuse me
[11:41] <_tyrell> programs like 3dchess that I install from Adept
[11:41] <_tyrell> are accessible from Where?
[11:41] <rjb> divas.. not sure whether that's the right thing to do,
[11:41] <_tyrell> I can't find em
[11:42] <rjb> _tyrell, u already installed it?
[11:42] <divansantana> _tyrell: If you can't find them in the games sections then try run kappfinder to app it to menu. Else run it from alt+F2
[11:42] <rjb> alt+space works great
[11:43] <divansantana> rjb: suppose you can test it and hope for the best ;P
[11:43] <_tyrell> I really can't find the games section
[11:43] <divansantana> There should be a ubuntu website that tells you which linux-image for which intel/amd processor! Maybe I should do that...
[11:43] <rjb> divas, the generic one seems to run pretty well
[11:44] <rjb> the only thing i'm missing is that the machine doesn't wake up from sleep mode
[11:44] <rjb> i have a slight hope a better kernel might fix that
[11:44] <_tyrell> and I can I find which is the filename of the executable of the package I installed?
[11:44] <rjb> _tyrell what I would do:
[11:45] <rjb> in a terminal, type
[11:45] <rjb> dpkg -L 3dchess | grep bin
[11:45] <C-O-L-T> question
[11:45] <DjDarkman> hy which is the grafical program ,for mAnageibg servicees?
[11:45] <C-O-L-T> how can see all my songs in amarok?
[11:45] <divansantana> rjb:That doesnt work too well in kubuntu but ubuntu I think it does...
[11:45] <C-O-L-T> it has written to me
[11:45] <C-O-L-T> 150 visible of 600
[11:45] <C-O-L-T> why?
[11:46] <rjb> divas, why the heck would that make a difference?
[11:46] <rjb> afaics suspend/restore is handled by acpi-support, same package no matter which gui
[11:47] <DjDarkman> which is the grafical program ,for manageing servicees?
[11:47] <divansantana> I think in ubuntu it works.I heard/thought it worked in ubuntu... maybe not :(
[11:47] <C-O-L-T>  amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????
[11:47] <C-O-L-T>  amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????
[11:47] <rjb> i expect it highly depends on the machine's make/model
[11:48] <divansantana> DjDarkman: bum is program for ubuntu else try System Settings => System Services
[11:48] <Tm_T> err
[11:48] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: behave
[11:49] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: i am trying ;)
[11:49] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: amarok written what in where? in what situation?
[11:49] <DjDarkman> divansantana: i have ubuntu and i installed kde on  it so i don`t know where are those system settings that were in kubuntu
[11:49] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: I can not see my playlist all of my songs. It has written to me that just 150 songs are visible of 600 why?
[11:50] <divansantana> DjDarkman: Then apt-get install bum and you are sorted!
[11:50] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: you mean your collection has 600 tracks but "All collection" smart playlist shows only 150?
[11:50] <DjDarkman> divansantana: and do you know how can i access those system settings that were in kubuntu?
[11:50] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: yes
[11:50] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: what version of amaroK
[11:51] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: 1.3.1
[11:51] <Tm_T> upgrade
[11:51] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: how?
[11:51] <divansantana> DjDarkman:open system Settings if you see it in menu else open it from run or terminal systemsettings
[11:51] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: kubuntu.org
[11:52] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: thanks for the advice
[11:52] <divansantana> C-O-L-T:http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[11:52] <Tm_T> yu
[11:52] <DjDarkman> ok divansantana 10x
[11:57] <_tyrell> this games I'm trying to install are said by adept to be working on 3d interface, maybe is there a client I got to install to get em goin?
[11:58] <JabberWokky> What's the best way to force the package xmms-mplayer to install without installing mplayer (I compile mplayer myself)?  I can think of a few, but would like a good elegant way...
[11:59] <crimsun> JabberWokky: apt-cache show equivs
[12:00] <Tm_T> _tyrell: what you mean?
[12:00] <crimsun> JabberWokky: a cleaner solution would be to compile mplayer into a deb yourself
[12:01] <Zugwrack> Hi all
[12:02] <Zugwrack> Hey I can't seem to apt-get java-packages as stated on the restricted ubuntu website?
[12:02] <Zugwrack> I have repositories enabled...
[12:02] <crimsun> Zugwrack: j2re1.4 is in multiverse