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| SynrG | re | 12:43 |
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| SynrG | still seeking an admin to fix wiki access for me | 12:44 |
| SynrG | summary if you weren't around for this earlier: 1) i registered with launchpad today, but found it was a duplicate becase I'm a DD and was autoregistered before. daf assigned an email address to the autoregistered identity, which sent me an automatic confirmation. | 12:47 |
| SynrG | 2) i couldn't confirm, but i could use the forgotten password feature, which i confirmed, logged in, and then tried to confirm the email address. the system prevented me, saying i was already confirmed under that address. | 12:48 |
| SynrG | 3) i logged in under the rescued autoregistered identity (now has email addr. synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca assigned) and merged the identity i created today successfully. | 12:49 |
| SynrG | 4) now i can login to launchpad with either identity, but the wiki doesn't accept my password to change anything on my UserPreferences. it tells me it doesn't match. in spite of this, i appear to be logged into the wiki when i login via dashboard. | 12:50 |
| SynrG | so ... I need an admin to unconfuse Moin about my password, apparently. | 12:50 |
| SynrG | i have just now retried, and i have the same problem again. i can login to dashboard, which in turn logs me into the wiki, but the wiki doesn't seem to like my password when I change something on UserPreferences (timezone) and press "Save") | 12:53 |
| mpt | SynrG, now's a bad time unfortunately, most people are asleep | 01:07 |
| mpt | If you can be awake sometime between 8 and 16 hours from now, that would be a better time to ask | 01:08 |
| ddaa | SynrG: talking launchpad wiki right? | 01:11 |
| ddaa | once you are logged in, just _clear_ the password field in the UserPreferences page and you will be able to POST it. | 01:11 |
| ddaa | Got bitten by the bug, it's in malone somewhere. I think spiv is the man to fix it one day. | 01:12 |
| ddaa | Then, generally use Launchpad if you want to change the password. | 01:12 |
| ddaa | SynrG: Mh... actually, I cannot find it in Malone. Would you be kind enough to file the bug? | 01:16 |
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| SynrG | ddaa: wiki.ubuntu.com | 01:19 |
| SynrG | mpt: noted. but tomorrow i'm getting married, so it's kind of inconvenient to be here then :) | 01:20 |
| SynrG | ddaa's tip solved it | 01:23 |
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| lt_zaq | testing | 02:42 |
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| stub | jamesh: Want to run the bug contact importer now? | 03:14 |
| jamesh | stub: okay. | 03:15 |
| jamesh | stub: I've got permission to read the mysql database on macquarie | 03:16 |
| stub | I assume you need to run it, as it will need access to the Bugzilla database | 03:16 |
| stub | I'll open up access to production from there. Any particular DB user? | 03:16 |
| jamesh | for testing, I've just been running as the default "launchpad" user. | 03:16 |
| jamesh | which is probably okay, since it is a one off script | 03:17 |
| stub | We can run it against that user. I'll just keep it open for a small window. | 03:17 |
| jamesh | I'll just update my tree on macquarie | 03:17 |
| stub | jamesh: jamesh@macquarie should now be able to connect as launchpad to the production db | 03:19 |
| jamesh | thanks. | 03:21 |
| jamesh | stub: so what $LPCONFIG should I run with? | 03:27 |
| jamesh | production? | 03:28 |
| stub | You might need to make one. Production might work, but might need a bit of hacking if there are any non-existant, required paths. | 03:28 |
| stub | The database connection settings can be pulled from production though | 03:29 |
| jamesh | stub: okay. Looks like everything went okay. You can remove the permission grant | 03:59 |
| stub | Cool :-) | 04:00 |
| jamesh | so now https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+subscribe says seb128 will get bug mail | 04:04 |
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| jamesh | morning mpt | 04:55 |
| mpt | afternoon jamesh :-) | 04:56 |
| jamesh | it is still morning here for another 3 minutes | 04:56 |
| mpt | good afternoon now, then | 05:01 |
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| Simira | hey | 09:28 |
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| SteveA | hello Simira | 09:54 |
| SteveA | hello world | 09:54 |
| Simira | can someone put up koffice for translation in Rosetta? | 09:55 |
| Simira | morning SteveA | 09:55 |
| SteveA | Simira: jordi or carlos can do that. carlos should be around in a few hours. | 10:02 |
| Simira | mhm, I couldn't see any of them. I'll give a mail | 10:03 |
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| SteveA | daf: hello | 10:56 |
| daf | hi Steve | 10:57 |
| SteveA | do we have more bugs to look through? | 11:02 |
| daf | we have the "Communication" and "Other" categories to look through | 11:07 |
| daf | I'm really looking forward to bug keywords | 11:09 |
| daf | I'm going to get some breakfast | 11:09 |
| SteveA | when shall we start? 20 mins? | 11:10 |
| daf | how about we look at them at 13:00 your time? | 11:10 |
| SteveA | okay, 50 mins from now | 11:10 |
| daf | cool | 11:10 |
| jblack | stevea: ping | 11:20 |
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| SteveA | hey jblack. i just read your email. thanks for sorting this all out. | 11:39 |
| SynrG | morning | 11:40 |
| SynrG | daf: thanks. got it sorted out yesterday. daaa said this is a known problem, but not filed in Malone. he asked if i'd file it, but i didn't get a chance to yet (first i have to find malone ;) | 11:41 |
| SynrG | daf: solution: leave the wiki password blank. press save. | 11:42 |
| sabdfl | has mpt been and gone? | 11:44 |
| SteveA | sabdfl: yes | 11:46 |
| SteveA | i'll be talking with him monday morning | 11:47 |
| SteveA | is there something i can bring up with him? | 11:47 |
| sabdfl | SteveA: i sent him mail about wordpress as a blogging frontend for launchpad users | 11:50 |
| sabdfl | currently wordpress uses mysql | 11:50 |
| sabdfl | i suspect that's fine to keep as-is, as long as we can do the user storage in LP | 11:51 |
| sabdfl | auth-to-lp | 11:51 |
| SteveA | i see | 11:51 |
| SteveA | i guess it depends how modular the wordpress storage code is | 11:51 |
| daf | SynrG: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/3987 -- is this the problem you saw? | 11:51 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3987: "Launchpad wiki UserPreferences causes mismatched passwords" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Andrew Bennetts, Status: NeedInfo http://launchpad.net/bugs/3987 | 11:52 |
| SteveA | whether it treats it as all-or-nothing, or if it allows plugging in user sources | 11:52 |
| SteveA | it's quite a common requirement to plug in user sources independently of other data. so you can link it with ldap things, for example. | 11:52 |
| daf | http://www.weblogs.uhi.ac.uk/sm00ay/?p=18 | 11:53 |
| SynrG | daf: checking | 11:53 |
| daf | if they can do it with LDAP, I suspect using the authserver would not be too hard | 11:53 |
| SynrG | daf: yes. that's apparently the same problem. thanks. | 11:54 |
| SteveA | sabdfl: i've made a note about wordpress for my call with mpt on monday | 11:54 |
| SteveA | daf: 5 mins? | 11:55 |
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| sabdfl | cool, thanks | 11:55 |
| daf | SteveA: I expect that Andrew wlil reply to my question when he gets back | 11:55 |
| daf | er | 11:55 |
| daf | SynrG: ^^^ | 11:55 |
| daf | hopefully we can get that fixed soon | 11:55 |
| SynrG | god | 11:55 |
| SynrG | er, good, too | 11:55 |
| daf | feel free to subscribe to the bug in the meantime | 11:55 |
| sabdfl | oops | 11:55 |
| sabdfl | https://staging.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | 11:55 |
| daf | SteveA: yes | 11:55 |
| sabdfl | that shouldn't happen | 11:56 |
| sabdfl | BjornT: is that a known issue? | 11:56 |
| SynrG | daf: subscribed. | 11:56 |
| daf | sabdfl: are you getting a traceback? | 11:57 |
| daf | sabdfl: I'm not | 11:57 |
| daf | (just an OOPS page) | 11:57 |
| BjornT | sabdfl: hmm, no, i didn't know about it. i'll have to check what's causing the oops. | 11:58 |
| sabdfl | daf: i also see an oops | 11:58 |
| sabdfl | it works on production | 11:58 |
| stu1 | The patch to let launchpad developers see exceptions hasn't landed yet. | 11:58 |
| daf | at any rate, we can get the tb from chinstrap when it's synced | 11:58 |
| daf | hmm, I could have sworn I saw a traceback somewhere the other day | 11:58 |
| daf | on Launchpad | 11:58 |
| stu1 | You see them - it just isn't consistant | 11:59 |
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| daf | ah, I see | 11:59 |
| stub | That particular issue is that I havn't run the data migration for brads bugtaskstatus update on staging | 11:59 |
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| daf | ah, so the tests would have passed on the sample data | 11:59 |
| BjornT | ok, good | 12:00 |
| stub | sabdfl: Working now | 12:01 |
| daf | stub: what's the word on bug 1433? | 12:01 |
| sabdfl | aha | 12:02 |
| sabdfl | thanks stub | 12:02 |
| daf | I'm guessing it's not so much a problem for PQM these days | 12:02 |
| daf | Ubugtu: wake up | 12:02 |
| sabdfl | stub: are you expecting a performance jump with pg 8.0? any reason not to wait for 8.1? | 12:02 |
| daf | https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/1433 | 12:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1433: "existing /var/tmp/fatsam.test breaks the test suite" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/1433 | 12:02 |
| stub | sabdfl: It will be a performance boost. We could wait until 8.1 has been packaged and we have tested it if we want to minimize downtime | 12:03 |
| stub | (each major release will cost us several hours) | 12:03 |
| sabdfl | 8.1 is packaged in dapper | 12:03 |
| SteveA | yes, kiko talked to pitti about it yesterday | 12:03 |
| stub | You want elmo to upgrade emperor to dapper ? :-) | 12:04 |
| SteveA | kiko, stub and i had a long meeting about database versions and a performance plan yesterday | 12:04 |
| SteveA | the outcome was that we move to 8.0 as planned next week, ask pitti to package a breezy backport of 8.1, test this, and maybe do an 8.1 upgrade in a few weeks | 12:04 |
| stub | daf: You sure about that bug number? I havn't looked at that one | 12:04 |
| daf | uh, it has a comment from you on it | 12:05 |
| SteveA | there were other outcomes to do with some work jamesh is doing towards logging problematic queries for timeouts | 12:05 |
| SteveA | and changing some of the tables that are involved in caches (such as the karma cache) so that we're not locking important tables like Person so much | 12:06 |
| stub | daf: Yup - just a comment for whoever gets around to fixing it | 12:06 |
| SteveA | when the cron scripts are running | 12:06 |
| SteveA | the main timeout problem we have that we need to look into more closely is to do with translation pages | 12:06 |
| daf | stub: fair enough, ta | 12:06 |
| SteveA | even with suggestions turned off, they still time out sometimes | 12:07 |
| stub | daf: It doesn't bite often so I don't think anyone has been bothered enough to fix it. | 12:07 |
| SteveA | the other problems will be addressed by things stuart will be doing shortly | 12:07 |
| daf | stub: oh, ok, "serious PQM downtime" is a bit misleading then | 12:07 |
| SteveA | stub: is postgres 8.0 to 8.1 a major version upgrade? | 12:08 |
| stub | daf: erm... yeah ;-) I don't think PQM has had a problem with this for a while, and it should be impossible now it is running in a chroot | 12:08 |
| stub | SteveA: Yes. I will need to do a full backup/restore which takes time. | 12:08 |
| daf | would a 7.x -> 8.1 upgrade be faster than 7.x -> 8.0 + 8.0 -> 8.1? | 12:10 |
| SynrG | the launchpad site center panel is quite constrained in width. some pages look terrible in firefox 1.5 in 800x600 | 12:10 |
| SteveA | you need to define "faster", daf | 12:10 |
| daf | "faster" == "less downtime" | 12:10 |
| SynrG | fortunately, reducing the font size a couple of increments fixes this problem | 12:10 |
| SteveA | one is one upgrade, the other is two upgrades | 12:10 |
| SynrG | but it's a bit of a pain | 12:11 |
| SteveA | it's going to take us a while to test 8.1 and become confident with it | 12:11 |
| SteveA | the 7.x upgrade to 8.x is risky in that it is a major version upgrade | 12:11 |
| stub | daf: Yes. We would half our downtime if we jumped to 8.1. | 12:11 |
| SynrG | i was just trying to read the code of conduct. it was unreadable until i did this. the text did not fit within the right margin and was truncated | 12:12 |
| daf | I'm wondering if skipping 8.0 would save one dump+restore cycle or whether we'll need to do two anyway | 12:12 |
| daf | stub: right, that's a fairly big incentive | 12:12 |
| daf | SynrG: URL? | 12:12 |
| jblack | stevea: ok. ~/ubuntu changed to ~/launchpad, 10,000 foot summary of Whats Going on written for RocketfuelSetup | 12:12 |
| daf | jblack: no, you changed it to ~/rocketfuel :) | 12:12 |
| SteveA | we halve the downtime over the period of several weeks. this is planned downtime though, not random downtime. | 12:12 |
| jblack | I mean ~/rocketfuel | 12:12 |
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| SteveA | hello mpt | 12:13 |
| SteveA | mark was asking about the email he sent you about getting wordpress working with launchpad | 12:13 |
| SteveA | i proposed that you and i talk about that in our call on monday | 12:14 |
| daf | I don't think users are picky about the distinction :) | 12:14 |
| mpt | SteveA, ok | 12:14 |
| jblack | daf: I betchabetchabetcha they'd complain about ~/launchpad/launchpad | 12:14 |
| daf | jblack: prob'ly :) | 12:15 |
| SteveA | also... if we get a better machine for the database, there will be downtime then | 12:15 |
| SteveA | jblack: how long are you around for today? | 12:15 |
| jblack | I'm late for yesterday, actually. | 12:15 |
| jblack | What's up? | 12:15 |
| SteveA | jblack: i'd like to talk with you about these docs some more, and i've arranged to do some bug work with daf right now | 12:15 |
| SteveA | i'll work through the docs, and we can talk some other time, okay? | 12:16 |
| stub | SteveA: I've replied to a query elmo sent me (emperor load spike) about the server. I'll bounce you a copy. | 12:16 |
| daf | if jblack is going to go offline, I'm happy to postpone | 12:16 |
| jblack | Give me an offset from now() and I'll be here | 12:16 |
| mpt | SteveA, I remembered why the summary of actions needed to be above the bug comment: so that it can contain the expander that expands the comment (e.g. an original bug description that's collapsed by default) | 12:16 |
| SteveA | thanks stub | 12:16 |
| daf | mpt, SteveA: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/5578 needs a UI decision | 12:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 5578: "Should "Create Branch" be on the overview page of a product?" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/5578 | 12:16 |
| stub | SteveA: I suspect the load spike was caused by some cron jobs treading on each other, causing excessive timeouts in Launchpad | 12:16 |
| stub | SteveA: And the ones we saw after that were just 'normal' timeouts. | 12:17 |
| SteveA | mpt: i don't follow immediately and i'm in too many conversations at once... do what you think is best in the spec, and we'll talk about it monday | 12:17 |
| mpt | daf, I'm not at work, it's midnight and I just popped on to see if kiko was here | 12:17 |
| SteveA | mpt: a bit early for kiko, by 1 hour | 12:17 |
| mpt | mail me about it if there's been no bugmail in the past couple of days, and I'll get to it | 12:18 |
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| daf | mpt: sure thing | 12:18 |
| mpt | thanks daf | 12:18 |
| stub | I'm off to grab dinner in moment | 12:19 |
| SteveA | stub: will you make the cache updater cron scripts run serially ? | 12:19 |
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| SteveA | i'm thinking to have one cache update script that itself updates caches in series | 12:19 |
| SteveA | daf: voip? | 12:20 |
| daf | SteveA: ready | 12:20 |
| jblack | stevea: offset? | 12:21 |
| stub | SteveA: That would be a good idea for all the dailies. | 12:21 |
| SteveA | jblack: pardon? | 12:21 |
| jblack | offset from now() that you want me for? | 12:22 |
| jblack | 10 minutes, 1 hour, next thursday... | 12:22 |
| SteveA | jblack: did you say that you're about done for this workday ? | 12:22 |
| stub | SteveA: Just a shell script on production though - as we grow servers, various scripts may end up on different boxes (eg. gina is running daily on drescher) | 12:22 |
| jblack | I'll stay up if you don't want 4 hours from now. | 12:23 |
| SteveA | stub: they all have contention on the master database | 12:23 |
| SteveA | jblack: i'll be working for the next 6-7 hours i expect | 12:23 |
| SteveA | so later is fine | 12:23 |
| stub | SteveA: If that is a problem, we can keep the master on emperor which runs them via ssh on the relevant boxes. | 12:23 |
| SteveA | stub: i don't mind so much how it works, just that we have a sane way of not having scripts running at the same time | 12:24 |
| SteveA | jblack: just ping me when you're around after sleeping etc. | 12:24 |
| stub | Sure. | 12:24 |
| SteveA | it will give me some time to look through the docs again | 12:24 |
| jblack | sure. email me your concerns and I'll read them when I get up. | 12:24 |
| stub | Back in an hour | 12:24 |
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| SteveA | jblack: ok, ta | 12:25 |
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| SynrG | daf: https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0 | 12:27 |
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| matsubara | good morning! | 12:40 |
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| SynrG | daf: also, after adding my image to my profile, my irc and jabber ids overwrite the image in 800x600 mode: https://launchpad.net/people/synrg | 12:59 |
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| SynrG | daf: i can fix this by reducing font size, but now the font is unreadable | 12:59 |
| SynrG | if i could configure launchpad to not have a right sidebar, i'd probably be ok | 01:00 |
| SynrG | left sidebar, even | 01:00 |
| SynrG | well, actually, whichever one suits the user best | 01:01 |
| SynrG | mind you, now that I've added content, there is no longer a problem. The text flows around the photo. | 01:07 |
| SynrG | that's an acceptable workaround. | 01:07 |
| SteveA | stub: when you're back, i want to point you at carlos' code reviews | 01:21 |
| stub | SteveA: Yup. | 01:21 |
| stub | Took 1.5 hours to bzr pull --overwrite the first branch :-/ | 01:22 |
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| SteveA | stub: there's a description of how to do review kinda things on the new Rocketfuel docs on the wiki that jblack has been working on | 01:25 |
| SteveA | are you using that process, i wonder, or a different one | 01:25 |
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| kiko | hello guys | 01:26 |
| stub | I need local branches so I can test database patches | 01:28 |
| stub | Which is normally quicker :-/ | 01:28 |
| kiko | hey stub | 01:29 |
| kiko | how's it going? | 01:29 |
| stub | fine. nothing much thrilling today. | 01:29 |
| SteveA | stub: maybe a merge into a RF branch would be quicker than a pull --overwrite | 01:30 |
| stub | Mmm.... yes. I'll try that next time. | 01:30 |
| daf | kiko: do you know when Carlos is planning to land POMsgSetView? | 01:31 |
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| SteveA | i think POMsgSetView is being worked on right now | 01:38 |
| kiko | daf, SteveA: carlos started on that end of last year | 01:42 |
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| daf | SteveA: ? | 01:56 |
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| daf | ah, Steve's DSL is down | 02:05 |
| kiko | it happened yesterday too, bummer | 02:05 |
| daf | if there's anybody going to land a change soon, there's a trivial fix you can do | 02:06 |
| daf | otherwise, I'll do it myself | 02:06 |
| stub | I just approved one of carlos' branches | 02:13 |
| daf | carlos is on holiday today | 02:13 |
| daf | which branch, by the way? | 02:13 |
| daf | ah, I see it | 02:18 |
| kiko | I miss stevea | 02:31 |
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| daf | kiko: any idea if gneuman will be around today? | 02:38 |
| kiko | daf, yeah, he should be | 02:39 |
| daf | cool | 02:39 |
| kiko | damn | 02:41 |
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| cprov | BjornT: ping | 02:43 |
| tuhl | where can I find documentation about the build environment? | 02:45 |
| daf | tuhl: I don't understand | 02:48 |
| daf | the build environment of what? | 02:48 |
| tuhl | the new lauchpad based build environemnt | 02:49 |
| tuhl | for ubuntu based distros | 02:50 |
| daf | ah, I don't know much about that | 02:50 |
| cprov | tuhl: try https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/AutoBuildManagement | 02:50 |
| tuhl | cprov: thanks - when will the plattform opened? | 02:54 |
| cprov | tuhl: I'm not sure, this decision isn't up to me, "when it's ready" kind of fits ;) | 02:57 |
| tuhl | Mark told me that some bugs have to be resolved first but it should be possible to start soon | 02:59 |
| daf | well, I think from the package maintainer's point of view, it will work much like the old system | 03:00 |
| daf | except that build logs will show up in Launchpad | 03:00 |
| cprov | tuhl: "soon" can vary a lot, I'm doing my best to make it ready ASAP (next month) | 03:00 |
| cprov | daf: indeed | 03:00 |
| tuhl | cprov: that is soon :-) | 03:00 |
| cprov | tuhl: I'm glad it makes you happy | 03:01 |
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| cprov | daf: maybe you can help me, just did a rollout in mawson and LP is desperately trying to send emails for foobar/test/etc from bounce@c.c, do you know what is it ? | 03:05 |
| daf | hmm | 03:06 |
| daf | bounce@ or bounces? | 03:09 |
| daf | ah, bounces@c.c is the standard bounce address in schema.xml | 03:11 |
| cprov | daf: yup, any clue ? | 03:11 |
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| daf | well, I'd guess it's a cron script | 03:12 |
| daf | then again, I didn't think any cron jobs ran on staging | 03:12 |
| cprov | uhmm ... cron ? don't think so, it just happens when LP is running | 03:16 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad: [r=SteveA] Reenable exception display when logging in as a launchpad developer, fixing Bug 5339 (r2957: Stuart Bishop) | 03:16 |
| cprov | daf: the error mensages are in launchpad.log | 03:17 |
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| cprov | daf: see some of them at https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file9J7daL.html | 03:18 |
| cprov | daf: hopefully mawsons smtpd is off ;) | 03:20 |
| kiko | hopefully or thankfully? :) | 03:20 |
| daf | cprov: looks like it :) | 03:22 |
| BjornT | cprov: pong (i'm not paying much attention to irc atm) | 03:22 |
| cprov | kiko: much like thankfully, thanks | 03:22 |
| daf | cprov: by the way, I've noticed your English has been really good recently | 03:23 |
| cprov | BjornT: np, maybe you can help me with this mysterious email issue at mawson, what is sending email in LP ? | 03:23 |
| daf | well, something must be running the delivery process | 03:24 |
| cprov | daf: it's not true, who did say that ? ;) | 03:24 |
| daf | lib/zope/app/mail/delivery.py | 03:24 |
| daf | the thing which put the messages into the queue is probably no longer running | 03:24 |
| cprov | I'm happy with any solution either destroy the queue content or stop the dispatcher ... don't know how | 03:26 |
| BjornT | cprov: hmm, not quite sure. do you want emails to be sent at all? | 03:26 |
| cprov | BjornT: no, can live w/o them | 03:27 |
| BjornT | cprov: ok, then it should be enough if you add a mail:stubMailer in mail-configure-normal.zcml. you can look how it's done for staging. | 03:28 |
| cprov | BjornT: I was expecting something in lp.conf to disable it | 03:28 |
| cprov | aha | 03:28 |
| cprov | new conf file ... | 03:28 |
| cprov | BjornT: great, solved, thank you | 03:33 |
| cprov | BjornT: sorry for disrupt you with suck dummy question ... didn't notice the new config file | 03:34 |
| BjornT | np. ideally everything should be in launchpad.conf, but there's still a few things that aren't | 03:35 |
| stub | cprov: Fixed auth for the session user on mawson. | 03:41 |
| kiko | thanks stub | 03:41 |
| stub | cprov: Have you created a database for the session data yet? If not, give me the name of the database you are using in the launchpad.conf | 03:42 |
| cprov | stub: thanks, seesion DB is already there | 03:42 |
| cprov | stub: was created via make schema, it that a problem ? | 03:43 |
| stub | That should be fine | 03:43 |
| cprov | stub: it might point to lp_dev | 03:43 |
| cprov | stub: and I'm using lp_dogfood | 03:44 |
| stub | I'll rename it to session_dogfood | 03:44 |
| cprov | stub: never mind, it works | 03:44 |
| cprov | stub: if you say so, I'll fix the lp.conf fo DF | 03:45 |
| stub | I'll leave it | 03:45 |
| cprov | stub: ok | 03:45 |
| cprov | stub: can you mark RT # 1616 as resolved ? | 03:48 |
| stub | Nope. | 03:48 |
| stub | Znarl or SteveA have the power | 03:48 |
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| cprov | stub: ok, I'll poke karl, thanks for the help, saved my day . | 03:49 |
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| ddaa | stub: you around? | 04:04 |
| stub | ddaa: Yes | 04:05 |
| ddaa | would be nice if we could sort of pair-deploy the updatebranches script today | 04:05 |
| ddaa | I think most/all the pieces are in place now | 04:05 |
| stub | That would need to be soon - it is 10pm here. | 04:05 |
| stub | What needs to be done from my end? | 04:06 |
| ddaa | Mh, nothing except the db access (I don't remember the user to su to right now, so cannot check) | 04:08 |
| ddaa | just got the impression mgmt wanted us both familiar with the set up | 04:08 |
| SynrG | ddaa: that fixed my problem. also, as daf has pointed out, it *is* in malone: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/3987 | 04:08 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3987: "Launchpad wiki UserPreferences causes mismatched passwords" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Andrew Bennetts, Status: NeedInfo http://launchpad.net/bugs/3987 | 04:08 |
| ddaa | and since we have different ways of doing rollouts... | 04:09 |
| ddaa | stub: okay, I can "psql -U importd -h emperor launchpad_prod" from bzrsyncd@gandwana | 04:11 |
| ddaa | I think I can handle the rest by myself | 04:11 |
| ddaa | good night | 04:11 |
| stub | Ok. I'll be around a while still if you need me. | 04:12 |
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| stub | Is importd the correct user to use in the long term? | 04:13 |
| stub | I think we already had this discussion, and it is in my mailbox | 04:13 |
| ddaa | stub: I guess whatever we said is vaguely incorrect | 04:18 |
| ddaa | the whole buttsource/importd design has become largely obsolete | 04:18 |
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| ddaa | I guess you are the one to make the call at whether we need new and different users | 04:18 |
| ddaa | As long as my scripts can poke the DB as needed, and that I have a login with some broad permissions to do diagnostic and fixup, I'm happy. | 04:19 |
| stub | I'll worry about it once I've put together some auditing tools to determine what access particular processes need - it is too slow and painful to do it manually | 04:20 |
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| SteveA_ | stub: hello | 04:30 |
| daf | hi Steve | 04:31 |
| SteveA_ | stub: carlos knows that the `sftp://chinstrap/home/warthogs/archives/carlos/launchpad/bug-5751-2` contains the other stuff. he couldn't work out how to get baz to do this well. | 04:31 |
| daf | gneuman: yo | 04:31 |
| SteveA_ | hi daf | 04:31 |
| gneuman | daf, | 04:31 |
| gneuman | yo | 04:31 |
| daf | I was looking at this: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/3068 | 04:32 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 3068: "Adding poll with the same name in the same team causes ops..." Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: marisa, Status: Accepted http://launchpad.net/bugs/3068 | 04:32 |
| gneuman | yes | 04:32 |
| daf | have you spoken to marisa about it recently? | 04:32 |
| gneuman | no | 04:32 |
| gneuman | i got no answer | 04:32 |
| daf | ok -- perhaps you should go ahead with your fix rather than waiting | 04:33 |
| stub | SteveA_: Merge them into one branch and put that up for review would have worked | 04:33 |
| gneuman | ok | 04:33 |
| daf | I don't know who marisa is | 04:33 |
| daf | maybe they misunderstood what assigning means | 04:33 |
| daf | I'll assign it to you | 04:34 |
| gneuman | ok | 04:34 |
| daf | thanks | 04:34 |
| SteveA_ | stub: i asked him to offer it as two separate reviews originally, because it looked like it would be messy to review otherwise | 04:34 |
| daf | SteveA_: where would you like me to put the bug/milestone assignement doc? | 04:35 |
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| daf | SteveA_: LaunchpadMilestoneManagement? | 04:35 |
| daf | LaunchpadBugManagement? | 04:36 |
| ddaa | grah... it's snowing again! | 04:36 |
| daf | lucky you | 04:36 |
| ddaa | I've been wanting to go to the roller night for _months_! | 04:36 |
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| ddaa | It's always raining or snowing on fridays when I'm free :( | 04:36 |
| ddaa | beside's it's not cold enough for the snow not to melt | 04:37 |
| daf | ah, shame | 04:37 |
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| daf | honestly, who calls their project 'bum'? | 04:42 |
| SynrG | a purile nerd? | 04:43 |
| ddaa | some people call their command line tools baz... | 04:43 |
| daf | maybe English wasn't their native language | 04:43 |
| SynrG | puerile, even | 04:43 |
| Nafallo | bootupmanager ;-) | 04:47 |
| Nafallo | or rather BootUpManager :-P | 04:47 |
| daf | Nafallo: yes: https://launchpad.net/products/bum | 04:47 |
| SteveA_ | daf: the thing is, this is about our processes for assigning bugs to launchpad milestones, and managing bugs filed on the launchpad project | 04:48 |
| SteveA_ | daf: we must try to not confuse people with a too general title | 04:48 |
| Nafallo | so bum in short then :-) | 04:48 |
| jblack | SteveA: Somehow, I'm still up | 04:48 |
| SteveA_ | daf: maybe LaunchpadProjectMilestones ? | 04:48 |
| SteveA_ | hi jblack | 04:48 |
| daf | SteveA_: sounds good to me | 04:48 |
| SteveA_ | jblack: my dsl connection is not working. i'm currently on gprs, which isn't a very fat or fast pipe | 04:49 |
| jblack | Ok. Tomorrow perhaps | 04:50 |
| SteveA_ | daf: tramp - remote file access in Emacs | 04:50 |
| SteveA_ | daf: so, "bum" has company | 04:50 |
| SteveA_ | jblack: yeah... my day has been a bit thrown off by the DSL outage | 04:50 |
| daf | hmm, hadn't thought of the en_US sense | 04:50 |
| Nafallo | well, alacarte was named smeg before so... ;-) | 04:51 |
| jblack | stevea: If you still want to talk though, I do have skype. I can do pots over that. | 04:52 |
| daf | SteveA_: here's a draft: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/LaunchpadProjectMilestones | 04:55 |
| daf | SteveA_: shall I send a mail? | 04:55 |
| SynrG | speaking of package names and profanity, don't forget that apt used to be called deity | 04:55 |
| SynrG | bum is mild by comparison | 04:56 |
| daf | well, profanity is in the eye of the beholder | 04:56 |
| SynrG | bum is a line of clothing too. | 04:57 |
| SteveA_ | daf: i will read it | 04:58 |
| SteveA_ | daf: I always found the en_US idiom "it's a bum rap" very confusing | 04:58 |
| daf | I can see why | 04:59 |
| SteveA_ | SynrG: a friend and i were drinking in a pub, and saw our boss come into the pub, with his brother visiting from the US. this was about 12 years ago. The brother was wearing a sweater that loudly announced "BUM EQUIPMENT". My friend and I fell about laughing for a very long time. | 04:59 |
| SynrG | SteveA_: :) | 05:00 |
| jblack | I have no idea where that term comes from, though I know what it means. | 05:00 |
| SteveA_ | i only found out later that it is a brand of clothing | 05:00 |
| SteveA_ | jblack: does it mean "a telling off" | 05:00 |
| SteveA_ | like "he was given a telling off by his boss" == "he was given a bum rap by his boss" ? | 05:00 |
| SteveA_ | verbal discipline... | 05:01 |
| jblack | Nope. It means that one got punished/blamed for something they didn't do, or punished much more than the crime deserved. | 05:01 |
| jblack | Its since evolved a bit to also mean "a bad reputation" | 05:02 |
| SteveA_ | i have no idea how to say that in en_GB | 05:02 |
| SynrG | well, rap, as in "rap sheet". "bum" as in "bad" | 05:02 |
| daf | usatoday.com: "Is fat getting a bum rap?" | 05:03 |
| jblack | There's three or four meaning for the word "rap", none of which has to do with knocking on things. | 05:03 |
| jblack | daf: that woudl be the "undeservedly bad reputation" definition | 05:03 |
| daf | indeed | 05:03 |
| SteveA_ | bradb: milestones are going to be increasingly important to us. do you think a bug's page can display what milestone it is assigned to? | 05:03 |
| daf | SteveA_: I've filed a bug on that | 05:04 |
| daf | bug 6014 | 05:04 |
| bradb | SteveA_: Sure. Thinking required. | 05:04 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 6014: "milestone should be displayed on bug page" Fix req. for: malone (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: New http://launchpad.net/bugs/6014 | 05:04 |
| SteveA_ | it still sounds like something vaguely obscene to me | 05:04 |
| jblack | oh, you have no idea. | 05:04 |
| daf | some preposterious conjunction of music and posterior | 05:05 |
| daf | SteveA_: if there is a bug open about finding bugs not assigned ot milestones, I can't find it | 05:05 |
| bradb | daf: Use Google to find bugs filed in Malone. | 05:06 |
| daf | hmm, ok | 05:06 |
| daf | using Malone's own search usually works for me | 05:06 |
| bradb | :) | 05:06 |
| bradb | I use Google for bugs that I'm sure were filed, that I can't find via Malone's search. | 05:07 |
| daf | perhaps the advanced search syntax could support it | 05:08 |
| daf | but it's not explicitly mentioned there | 05:08 |
| daf | oh, something I noticed: of the 1123 oopses that happened yesterday, 252 were from googlebot | 05:09 |
| SteveA_ | daf: good stuff on the milestones doc. I've made a few small changes. you can announce it now. i discussed it with kiko on the phone a couple of hours ago. | 05:10 |
| daf | cool, thanks | 05:10 |
| SteveA_ | daf: have you see jamesh's script to analyze oops reports? | 05:11 |
| daf | no | 05:11 |
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| daf | many of the failures seem to be on build pages | 05:15 |
| daf | https://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~daf/googlebot-oopses | 05:15 |
| daf | SteveA_: where's James' script? | 05:15 |
| daf | cprov-lunch: maybe these mean something to you | 05:16 |
| SteveA_ | daf: in /scripts. but, there is a copy in ~stevea on chinstrap | 05:16 |
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| SteveA_ | daf: stevea@chinstrap:~$ ./analyse-error-reports.py /srv/gangotri-logs/2006-01-06/ > public_html/friday-so-far.txt | 05:17 |
| daf | got it | 05:17 |
| SteveA_ | daf: chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~stevea/friday-so-far.txt | 05:18 |
| daf | that's very nice | 05:19 |
| SteveA_ | jamesh is continuing to develop the script | 05:19 |
| SteveA_ | to distinguish between worrisome 404s and expected ones | 05:20 |
| SteveA_ | worrisome ones are where it isn't a robot, and it has a referer that is a site we care about | 05:20 |
| SteveA_ | as that indicates a broken linkn | 05:20 |
| SteveA_ | such a site could be the wiki, for example, or shipit or launchpad | 05:20 |
| daf | well, robot ones are not so great either | 05:20 |
| daf | it might indicate a broken link | 05:20 |
| SteveA_ | maybe, but robots look over links that were there last time the robot went around | 05:21 |
| daf | true | 05:21 |
| SteveA_ | so, simply renaming something can lead to 404s | 05:21 |
| daf | I didn't think we had many pages that disappeared | 05:21 |
| SteveA_ | or changing the URL hierarchy for some pages that we don't expect people to bookmark | 05:21 |
| SteveA_ | sometime, we'll look into using the google site APIs to leave structured information to tell google how to best crawl the site | 05:22 |
| SteveA_ | ooh | 05:26 |
| SteveA_ | DSL came back | 05:26 |
| SteveA_ | with a blast of polish pop music | 05:27 |
| SteveA_ | watch "ping -c 1 148.88.8.6 && xmms music/Zanim\ Slonce\ Wstanie.mp3 " | 05:27 |
| SteveA_ | has been running since lunchtime | 05:27 |
| jordi | Simira, SteveA_: I think koffice, and the rest of gnome and kde would be waiting for carlos' autoimport system for both | 05:28 |
| jordi | dunno how he wants to handle it in the meanwhile | 05:28 |
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| cprov | daf: reading it | 05:41 |
| cprov | daf: it might be generated by failures/missing on gina production run, I'm waiting the error-log sync on chinstrap to read the full traceback | 05:47 |
| jordi | SteveA_, kiko-fud: got email | 05:50 |
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| ddaa | why does production deployment have to feel like trying to hit an elephant in the eye using a straw as an aim _and_ as a sarbacane? | 05:58 |
| ddaa | I mean s/sarbacane/pea-shooter/ | 05:58 |
| kiko | thanks jordi | 06:02 |
| jordi | hey man | 06:03 |
| Simira | jordi :does that autoimport system have an eta? | 06:05 |
| jordi | Simira: I don't know, carlos will know | 06:05 |
| jordi | today is a holiday in Spain | 06:05 |
| jordi | dunno if he's on holiday | 06:06 |
| Simira | ok | 06:06 |
| jordi | the three wise men came last night and left presents for the kids :) | 06:06 |
| Simira | oh, right. We had that couple of weeks ago ;p | 06:07 |
| jordi | I heard ;P | 06:07 |
| kiko | and disassembling the christmas tree | 06:10 |
| jordi | xmas ends today in Spain :) | 06:11 |
| jordi | makes it long and annoying | 06:11 |
| kiko | it's always annoying | 06:11 |
| Simira | we are going over to some people to have a "christmas-tree-disassembling-party" tonight. | 06:12 |
| jordi | gah | 06:12 |
| jordi | the import queue is oopsing on me all the time | 06:12 |
| jordi | kiko: is there anything obvious in OOPS-A298? | 06:13 |
| jordi | Simira: is that disassembling violent? | 06:13 |
| jordi | like people pulling and tearing the tree | 06:13 |
| Simira | jordi : I hope not. This is my first time on that occation | 06:13 |
| jordi | and jumping on it, while yelling "wOOOHOOO!!" | 06:14 |
| jordi | Simira: boring! | 06:14 |
| jordi | kiko: I'm going to my town in the solitary mountains. I'll be networkless, but I'll bring my laptop to see if I can start writing something up. | 06:16 |
| jordi | kiko: any kind of suggestions before I elave? | 06:17 |
| kiko | ok, cool | 06:17 |
| jordi | mostly about how to focus the docs | 06:17 |
| kiko | hmm | 06:17 |
| kiko | not really I guess | 06:17 |
| jordi | I'll see what I come up with. | 06:17 |
| jordi | I'll make it a manual, I guess. | 06:17 |
| kiko | jordi, what day was that oops generated? | 06:18 |
| jordi | 5 mins ago | 06:18 |
| kiko | hmmm | 06:20 |
| kiko | ForbiddenAttribute: ('pofile', <TranslationImportQueueEntry at 0x2ab22c2c50>) | 06:20 |
| kiko | it's very odd | 06:20 |
| kiko | jordi, how did you get that? | 06:20 |
| jordi | kiko: trying to edit something in the import queue. | 06:21 |
| jordi | ie, setting the required fields to values, and pressing ok | 06:21 |
| kiko | jordi, it's a bug, probably easy to fix | 06:21 |
| kiko | jordi, wanna file it, and I'll get somebody to look at it? | 06:22 |
| jordi | k | 06:24 |
| jordi | pfft | 06:26 |
| jordi | what I import doesn't seem to appear in the product translations | 06:26 |
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| kiko | ddaa, do you know the answer to mark's recent question on apt personal branches? | 06:29 |
| ddaa | I would probably have I knew what his expectations were. | 06:30 |
| kiko | yeah me too | 06:30 |
| ddaa | So the option looks like "say nothing", "hip shoot", "ask for clarifications an look stupid"... | 06:30 |
| SteveA | we can display bzr branches in launchpad... their metadata anyway, right? | 06:31 |
| jordi | ah, it did work | 06:31 |
| kiko | ddaa, hip shot then? | 06:31 |
| SteveA | we have some code that can get the metadata out of a bzr branch | 06:31 |
| kiko | it worked for doc | 06:31 |
| SteveA | we can register the 'apt' upstream bzr branch in launchpad | 06:31 |
| ddaa | SteveA: nope, I've been fighting to get the bits in place for a long time, right now I'm trying to get the metadata scanning cronjob online. | 06:31 |
| SteveA | and run the code on it to make its metadata appear in launchpad | 06:31 |
| SteveA | maybe not even as a cronjob | 06:32 |
| SteveA | just as a oneoff so we can see the stuff in launchpad | 06:32 |
| ddaa | Well, anyway, I'm trying to make it run _anyhow_. | 06:32 |
| SteveA | okay | 06:32 |
| kiko | heh | 06:32 |
| SteveA | so, seeing the bzr info for 'apt' in launchpad is a milestone | 06:32 |
| SteveA | and as soon as that milestone is achievable, go for it | 06:32 |
| ddaa | one nagging issue is that it does not look that any stuff served by the supermirror is sane... and I have no error feedback to look for good data... | 06:32 |
| kiko | I think ddaa has a good idea of what's necessary | 06:33 |
| kiko | ddaa, what does spiv say? | 06:33 |
| SteveA | spiv is back monday | 06:33 |
| ddaa | kiko: one of the things I've been planning to do since I'm back is writing requirement for crude error reporting to jblack. | 06:33 |
| ddaa | I'm better off asking jblack since he has at least some TZ overlap with me. | 06:33 |
| ddaa | also, spiv already has too much tech work on his plate, while jblack is willing to do more. | 06:34 |
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| kiko | fair enough | 06:34 |
| kiko | but keeps tabs on how it's going | 06:34 |
| kiko | and tell me if it slips | 06:35 |
| ddaa | It has been slipping for about two weeks before christmas... | 06:35 |
| kiko | so stop the bleeding | 06:35 |
| ddaa | trying hard | 06:35 |
| ddaa | as I understand it, it has been largely coordination and communication issues | 06:36 |
| ddaa | nothing that can be fixed by the application of more hands | 06:36 |
| kiko | which we can help with if you tell us what's bothering you | 06:36 |
| ddaa | I've been doing that every monday with SteveA and lifeless :) | 06:36 |
| kiko | or I can send you a dvd of the lost episode where jack tries to save boone | 06:36 |
| kiko | cprov, yo? | 06:37 |
| cprov | kiko: yo | 06:37 |
| ddaa | don't worry, the situation is getting under control, I expect to get bzr metadata displayed before thursday. | 06:37 |
| kiko | cprov: | 06:41 |
| kiko | <elmo> kiko: gcj-4.0-base isn't in universe, it's in main | 06:41 |
| kiko | <elmo> kiko: on ftp-master and 2 x archive.u.c | 06:41 |
| kiko | cprov, also, tell me about our buildds. do we have at least two architectures? | 06:42 |
| cprov | kiko: this is bad ... | 06:42 |
| cprov | kiko: no only 2x i386, | 06:42 |
| kiko | cprov, what is bad? | 06:44 |
| kiko | cprov, what are their names? | 06:44 |
| cprov | chroot is looking for pkgs in the wrong component ... I wonder how ? which tag file is broken | 06:44 |
| cprov | kiko: molodezhnaya and ferraz | 06:45 |
| kiko | cprov, maybe it's one of the broken Sections? | 06:46 |
| cprov | kiko: yup .. | 06:47 |
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| kiko | jordi, gone? | 07:02 |
| === bradb & # lunch | ||
| ddaa | kiko: can you review a small patch (that I intend to test live...)? | 07:18 |
| ddaa | https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/file48Qjl6.html | 07:18 |
| kiko | daf, is carlos taking bug 1681? | 07:18 |
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| kiko | ddaa, explain this config change to me? | 07:21 |
| ddaa | the previous value was a placeholder | 07:21 |
| kiko | okay | 07:22 |
| kiko | and what's the difference between | 07:22 |
| kiko | - logger_object.warning("Branch not found: %s" % branch_url) | 07:22 |
| kiko | + logger_object.warning("Branch not found: %s", branch_url) | 07:22 |
| ddaa | If I understand correctly, that just means that the interpolation is only done if the warning gets logged | 07:23 |
| ddaa | it's just better logging style | 07:23 |
| kiko | ddaa, if you test the traceback logging (is there no better way of logging tracebacks?) then r=kiko | 07:30 |
| kiko | that branch url no longer looks like a URL, btw | 07:31 |
| ddaa | Yeah, I tested traceback.exc_format() in an interactive python. | 07:32 |
| ddaa | what do you mean "no longer looks like a URL"? | 07:32 |
| ddaa | what sort of "better" logging of tracebacks would you like? | 07:33 |
| ddaa | exc_format() does exactly what I want: give me the string that python displays for uncaught exceptions | 07:34 |
| kiko | okay, great | 07:44 |
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| kiko | ddaa, I meant that it used to be foo/232 now it's foo0000232 | 07:44 |
| ddaa | nah, the urlprefix has a trailing slash in the config | 07:45 |
| ddaa | previously, it introduced a redundant slash | 07:45 |
| ddaa | But thanks for mentioning it. That might have been a bug. | 07:46 |
| kiko | ah, okay. | 07:59 |
| kiko | make a comment on that perhaps? | 07:59 |
| kiko | aar r=kiko of course | 07:59 |
| ddaa | okay, thanks | 08:02 |
| jordi | kiko: back for like 5m | 08:11 |
| kiko | jordi, ah, never mind | 08:13 |
| kiko | jordi, what was your bug #? | 08:13 |
| jblack | ddaa: I think we need a three way handshake. :) | 08:14 |
| jblack | ddaa: what did you need before? | 08:14 |
| ddaa | jblack: what do you mean? | 08:14 |
| jblack | You pinged me not too long ago. | 08:14 |
| ddaa | I would like to know why every branch I try to get from bazaar.launchpad.net gives me | 08:15 |
| ddaa | bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AttributeError: 'BzrBranch' object has no attribute '_branch_format' | 08:15 |
| jordi | kiko: hmm, let me dig | 08:15 |
| jblack | ddaa: Because most of them are bad branches at source. | 08:15 |
| jblack | There's a few good ones in there. I can find a couple if you need. | 08:15 |
| kiko | jblack, is bzr push broken again? | 08:16 |
| kiko | push_file = file (filename, "rb") | 08:16 |
| kiko | (location,) = [f.rstrip('\n') for f in push_file] | 08:16 |
| ddaa | jblack: if they are bad branches at sources, they should not be get onto bazaar.launchpad.net, right? | 08:16 |
| kiko | how can that be guaranteed to return two items? | 08:16 |
| jblack | kiko: I'm not aware of bzr push being broken at the moment, but I haven't read email in a couple hours | 08:16 |
| jblack | kiko: I can look into it after I talk to ddaa | 08:16 |
| ddaa | jblack: what is there is stuff the mirroring script has written, one of the purpose of this setup is to sanitize the data. | 08:16 |
| kiko | I'll pester #bzr meanwhile | 08:16 |
| jordi | 6499 | 08:17 |
| jblack | ddaa: There will always be things that by defintion are "bad" at one point or another if you include inconsistancy | 08:17 |
| ddaa | jblack: try getting any _sane_ branch, for example http://bazaar.launchpad.net/00/00/02/24, that _used_ to work | 08:17 |
| kiko | thanks jordi | 08:17 |
| jblack | trying | 08:18 |
| jblack | ddaa: i see the errror | 08:18 |
| jordi | kiko: np | 08:18 |
| ddaa | and 1. there should not be any transient inconsistency error, the fetching code is designed defensively against that issue | 08:18 |
| ddaa | 2. these errors are not transient, and seem to affect all branches that look otherwise good | 08:19 |
| jblack | Odd. branch-format is empty | 08:19 |
| jblack | ddaa: its ok buddy. Relax. stage 2 gives you error reporting | 08:19 |
| ddaa | I'm _almost_ ready to do the first bzrsyncd run, but it looks like I'm going to be blocked on that issue. | 08:20 |
| jblack | but you're always going to potentially see inconsistant things. | 08:20 |
| ddaa | sure, that's not what I'm talking about | 08:20 |
| jblack | consider a branch that has started mirroring, but never finished the first time. | 08:20 |
| jblack | I define inconsistant as bad. | 08:20 |
| jblack | yeah. branch-format in every single one is empty | 08:22 |
| jblack | that looks like a bzr bug to me | 08:22 |
| ddaa | yes, that's the issue | 08:22 |
| jblack | elmo: ping | 08:22 |
| elmo | jblack: ? | 08:24 |
| jblack | Is anything changing _right now_ ? | 08:25 |
| elmo | jblack: nope | 08:26 |
| jblack | ddaa: give me moment. I'll upgrade bzr | 08:26 |
| elmo | I'll talk to you before it does | 08:26 |
| jblack | after I test it | 08:26 |
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| SynrG | my friend's Safari browser hates launchpad :( | 08:27 |
| ddaa | anyway, I'm being overriden by the cat :) | 08:27 |
| SynrG | has trouble with the certificate | 08:27 |
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| ddaa | jblack: the sky is not going to fall over | 08:27 |
| SynrG | NSURLErrorDomain:-1205 | 08:27 |
| ddaa | go to sleep if it's too late for you | 08:27 |
| jblack | No worries. I'll take care of this. | 08:27 |
| jblack | Take care of your cat before it chews up your mouse =) | 08:28 |
| jblack | ddaa: in the meantime, I'll try remirroring the whole lot. | 08:29 |
| ddaa | he just want me to stroke it... meaning he's resting on my hands while I type... | 08:29 |
| bradb | SynrG: What URL? | 08:29 |
| bradb | SynrG: I don't have trouble with it in Safari. Neither does mpt (our UI designer who uses Safari.) | 08:29 |
| SynrG | trying to access my profile | 08:30 |
| SynrG | i suspect it is the same with all others | 08:30 |
| bradb | SynrG: I'm running Version 2.0.2 (416.13) | 08:30 |
| jblack | stevea: ping | 08:30 |
| SynrG | https://launchpad.net/people/synrg | 08:30 |
| === kiko pqms | ||
| bradb | SynrG: Works fine here. | 08:30 |
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| bradb | SynrG: And does it work for him in FF from the same machine? | 08:32 |
| SteveA | jblack: hello | 08:40 |
| jblack | stevea: still up | 08:42 |
| SteveA | jblack: okay | 08:45 |
| SteveA | shall we talk? | 08:45 |
| jblack | sure | 08:45 |
| jblack | sounds like fun | 08:45 |
| jblack | are you waiting for me to ring? | 08:46 |
| SteveA | i was distracted for a sec | 08:46 |
| SteveA | go ahead and ring the voip | 08:47 |
| ddaa | yeeeeeeehaw! | 09:04 |
| ddaa | SteveA: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/00/00/02/24 | 09:04 |
| ddaa | oops | 09:04 |
| ddaa | SteveA: https://launchpad.net/people/mdz/+branch/ltsp/ubuntu-main | 09:04 |
| kiko | ddaa, rock and rolling! | 09:05 |
| mdz | ddaa: nice | 09:05 |
| ddaa | not yet cronjobbed, but at least it _can_ work | 09:05 |
| kiko | wow, that is quite cool | 09:05 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad/sourcecode/pygettextpo: [trivial] Add a clean target (that actually does a distclean) (r17: kiko) | 09:06 |
| ddaa | thanks jblack | 09:09 |
| SteveA | ddaa: nice! | 09:09 |
| sivang | hi folks, what's up? | 09:11 |
| sivang | jblack: I see RFS is getting there, right? not so far before it's ready? | 09:11 |
| gneuman | can anyone here review for me? | 09:22 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad: [trivial] Make sure we /really/ clean up pygettextpo, and any libtool cruft, when make cleaning (r2958: kiko) | 09:27 |
| kiko | gneuman, what's up? | 09:27 |
| gneuman | kiko, | 09:30 |
| gneuman | just need review | 09:30 |
| gneuman | 1 trivial | 09:30 |
| gneuman | 1 easy and small | 09:30 |
| kiko | sure | 09:30 |
| gneuman | sending to you then | 09:31 |
| jblack | sivang: I think its very close, and very good. | 09:41 |
| jblack | SteveA has a keen eye for catching ambiguities. | 09:41 |
| jblack | I just realized on the phone with him that there's one significant part missing. After that it should be ready for test and usage. | 09:42 |
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| ddaa | where's is the new pqm status page? | 09:43 |
| jblack | You tell me. | 09:43 |
| jblack | ddaa: the full remirror is running with a fresh copy of bzr. | 09:43 |
| ddaa | jblack: update-branches is running, when I kick it manually | 09:44 |
| ddaa | uploading final logging fixes right now, then I'll cron it. | 09:44 |
| bradb | What can I do to get my branch pushed up to chinstrap as quickly as possible in this scenario: | 09:45 |
| bradb | bradb@oxygen:~/canonical/status-notes-as-comment $ bzr push chinstrap:/home/warthogs/archives/bradb/launchpad/status-notes-as-comment | 09:45 |
| bradb | bzr: ERROR: Local branch is not a newer version of remote branch. | 09:45 |
| ddaa | You'll probably want to keep an eye out for it in launchpad-error-reports@ | 09:45 |
| jblack | ddaa: Bear in mind that I haven't found the problem. I'm hoping its a non-reproducable bug from some mind bent on eggnog | 09:45 |
| ddaa | if that should happen again, you should see it on launchpad-error-reports@ | 09:45 |
| jblack | ddaa: Hmm. I'm not on that, and would prefer not to be unless its necessary. | 09:45 |
| jblack | would it be possible to procmail certain reports to me? | 09:46 |
| ddaa | I think it is necessary... we can get stub to set up topics for stuff we are interested in (that is _not_ the insane rosetta spam!) | 09:46 |
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| ddaa | this functionality crosses responsibility boundaries, all responsible (that is you and I) should look out for problems (and fix them quickly). | 09:47 |
| ddaa | jblack: I'd rather not, my mail setup is procmail free and I'd like to keep it that way. | 09:48 |
| jblack | you already have to watch it? | 09:48 |
| ddaa | sure, I have to look out for my cronjob logs... | 09:49 |
| jblack | Does it not report if there's not a problem? ] | 09:49 |
| ddaa | depends on the set up, right now I'll have it report for missing branches, at least until we have some SM error handlding. | 09:50 |
| ddaa | Eventually, it should not report if there is no problem. | 09:50 |
| jblack | ddaa: Hmm. Would you mind if we discuss this at another time? | 09:51 |
| ddaa | no hurry | 09:51 |
| ddaa | I'm just being a bit over-enthusiastic. | 09:51 |
| jblack | Ahh. I'm at over 30 hours. | 09:51 |
| ddaa | You know, sleep is useful. | 09:52 |
| jblack | I've seen people wake up, work, go to bed and wake up again. :) | 09:52 |
| jblack | So lets put this off | 09:52 |
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| sivang | jblack: cool then, it's sure looks like it from the wiki subscription notification. | 10:00 |
| jblack | If anybody really needs anything from me before I go, this is the time | 10:19 |
| kiko | ddaa, where does that branch of mdz come from? not the supermirror, right? | 10:19 |
| ddaa | as far as bzrsyncd is concerned, it comes from the supermirror | 10:20 |
| ddaa | but the SM has pulled it from somewhere else (sftp for bzr is not there yet) | 10:20 |
| dilys | Merge to devel/launchpad: [trivial] Visual fixes to expander; improve icon positioning and don't underline it (r2959: kiko, Christian Reis) | 10:21 |
| ddaa | yay, that's cronjobbed | 10:22 |
| ddaa | 0030 and 1230 every day | 10:22 |
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| kiko | ddaa, hey | 10:24 |
| kiko | before doing that | 10:24 |
| kiko | why don't you answer to mark's message? | 10:24 |
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| ddaa | hu... why about doing that monday when everything has been scanned right? | 10:25 |
| === ddaa checks for any apt branch | ||
| kiko | ddaa, sure. | 10:25 |
| kiko | sounds safe. | 10:25 |
| kiko | I like to keep the man happy.. | 10:25 |
| ddaa | well, if there is an apt branch, I would not be able to resisit | 10:25 |
| ddaa | "you means something like THAT?" | 10:26 |
| ddaa | Mh... not any apt branch there ATM... | 10:26 |
| kiko | ddaa, how much time do we have to wait? | 10:29 |
| ddaa | until somebody register them :) | 10:29 |
| ddaa | then the SM has to mirror them | 10:29 |
| ddaa | and bzrsyncd has not scan them | 10:29 |
| kiko | mdz, do you have any apt branches to register? | 10:29 |
| ddaa | all that is doing with crons | 10:29 |
| ddaa | we have plans to reduce latency later on, but right now the latency will still by of the order of one day | 10:30 |
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| mdz | kiko: yes | 10:40 |
| mdz | I have all sorts of branches | 10:40 |
| kiko | can you register one for apt? | 10:43 |
| ddaa | mdz: the sabdfl sounded it would make him happy to see a bunch of apt branches in Launchpad, since we just finished to get the whole chaing _somewhat_ working, that would be a good time to put some data in :) | 10:43 |
| mdz | ddaa: he's not happy with my ltsp branches eh? | 10:47 |
| mdz | hmm, actually I don't have any bzr apt branches. they're still baz | 10:48 |
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| ddaa | ah... that's a good reason for not showing them, I guess... | 10:48 |
| mdz | mvo's branch is converted to bzr | 10:49 |
| mdz | http://people.debian.org/~mvo/bzr/apt--main.bzr/ | 10:49 |
| ddaa | added | 10:52 |
| ddaa | It should be scanned tomorrow. | 10:53 |
| ddaa | I'm going to play some wesnoth now :) | 10:54 |
| sivang | ddaa: have fun :) | 10:55 |
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| kiko | time to move out too | 11:10 |
| kiko | catch you all later | 11:10 |
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