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robotgeekexistance: yeah, then that will work12:00
hyperactivecrondi have a problem with my wiki accounts... i checked "perm. delete" on both of my accounts by accident... meant to do only one... so now i can't get in... and need an admin to fix that if at all possible so I can merge the accounts12:00
Argothbrb12:00
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Malachimwe: I don't see Install Theme...12:00
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joey222now my internet connecion is fucked12:01
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Ophiocusi hope it wears protection12:02
dfgas_redguy: got it working12:02
joey222its gonna need it if i kick the shit out of it12:02
matitacciaHello! I'm trying to install linux on a sony notebook, vgn S5HP, but I get an error message: ata1 : BUG: timeout without command.12:02
bimberiMalachi: under "Themed Greeter"12:02
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dfgas_redguy: i don't have any info for eth0 set, just did a auto eth012:02
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Malachibimberi: Oh....nothing for other types of themes?12:03
slashx1896how do i backup the whole dvd using dvdbackup?12:03
odatnalioth, still here?12:03
Malachibimberi: Like windows themes and icon themes.12:03
redguydfgas_: good to hear12:03
dfgas_:D12:03
willemmatitaccia:  when did you get that error message exactly?12:03
bimberiMalachi: System -> Preferences -> Theme12:03
Malachibimberi: I've done that, but it doesn't install the themes all the way....12:03
matitacciawillem, hello.12:04
bimberiMalachi: "all the way"?12:04
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MalachiFrom gnome-look.org...12:04
existancewhat video players can play .avi?12:04
Malachibimberi: Or do I have to install separate things....12:04
d-rockexistance: mplayer, totem-xine, vlc12:04
pinucsetone think, it seems i cant resize a windows ntfs partition from qtparted, why not? :S12:04
matitacciaDuring the creation of partition. I was using other distros, not ubuntu. I'm downloading it right now, but I have seen on google that someone has already had this problem with ubuntu.12:05
slashx1896anyone? i dont know how to use dvdbackup.. it says -m back up a whole dvd, so what do i do? i ahve the dvd in my dvd drive12:05
matitacciawillem, and with a sony notebook.12:05
d-rockexistance: avi is just a container format, you're probably running into codec issues if you can't play something12:05
existanced-rock, i have vlc, but when i try to open it, it doesn't play video, no error though12:05
hyperactivecrondslashx1896: man dvdbackup12:05
Argothmatitaccia: was that comment to me12:05
Argothabout the partition problems12:06
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matitacciaArgoth, nope... unless you can help me out... eheh...12:06
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bimberiMalachi: i'm not sure ... there is the "gnome-art" package which enables install from art.gnome.org12:06
Malachibimberi:Humm....12:07
Malachibimberi: Thanks, I'll try that.12:07
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MalachiAnd thank you too, wme.12:07
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bimberiMalachi: i've only ever installed an icon theme (gartoon) myself12:07
bimberiMalachi: k, np :)12:07
willemmatitaccia:  sorry cant seem to talk private, i dont have a clue on how to solve your problem12:07
matitacciawillem, it's okay, thanks!12:08
vkhow to change the standard prog for a filtype, for ex, if i want .avi to be opened in vlc?12:08
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willemvk:  right click -> properties -> open with12:08
Eugmanrobot geek: "Could not save the file "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf"12:08
bimberiwillem: you need to be (registered and) identified to /msg on freenode (an anti-spambot measure)12:08
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vkwillem, tnx12:10
mweEugman: gksudo edit it12:10
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EugmanI changed the permissions with chmod and then double clicked on it. What is the difference?12:11
existancehow can i install .avi decoders for totem player?12:11
mweEugman: don't change permission on system files12:11
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bimberiexistance: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:11
mweEugman: it breaks security12:11
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Eugmanok12:12
existancebimberi, thanks12:12
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mweEugman: please change it back12:12
bimberiexistance: np :)12:12
Eugmanok12:12
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mweEugman: 644 is the default12:12
Eugmandone12:13
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mweEugman: now sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf12:13
ibmnotebookhow to find out my apache version?12:13
mweEugman: but back it up first in case you screw up12:13
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Eugmanok12:13
piotr_hmmm, me getting my hands on dapper repository ;] 12:14
piotr_is x window 7.0 released in packages?12:14
oooh_waltnewbie need help with live cd.12:14
corresponder?12:14
mwewhy is everyone so hipped on running a broken releasy of ubuntu? :)12:14
corresponderbroken?12:15
corresponderwhich?12:15
mwecorresponder: dapper12:15
oooh_walthelp12:15
correspondereigentlich brauch ich ja nur den schnorchel12:15
bimberiibmnotebook: dpkg -l *apache* | grep ^ii12:15
corresponderk12:15
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corresponderi dont know dapper12:15
mwecorresponder: it's the next, not yet finished, ubuntu release12:16
Kindredif I had a spare computer laying around I guess i'd give it a go.. but otherwise I can wait :|12:16
corresponderah, k12:16
oooh_walti downloaded the iso.  burned it with roxio. put it inside my cd and reboot. i changed bios to boot from cd. still nothing.12:16
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Mabus06when is dapper officially out?12:16
mwecorresponder: everyone tries to run it. then can't understand why things are broken :)12:16
Kindredapril12:17
bimberiMabus06: April12:17
correspondernever touch a running system!12:17
corresponderthey got to much time12:17
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oooh_waltajmitch / seveas can u help me please?12:17
mwecorresponder: yeah maybe12:17
willemk bye12:17
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corresponderlike with gentoo12:17
corresponder*duck&cover*12:18
mweoooh_walt: broken cd maybe? can you boot another cd?12:18
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oooh_waltmwe thanks.  cd fine. yes i can boot another. on the download site i see the other files, txt etc when i download iso will these be included12:19
xiaogilWhat do I need to install to avoid this error message : make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/source: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type. Arrt.12:19
xiaogil ?12:19
slashx1896!dvd12:19
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:19
slashx1896im trying todo that but i get errors when adding that repositorie,12:19
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mwexiaogil: please prefix your command with LANGUAGE=C to get the errors in english12:19
Kindredslashx1896, what kind of errors12:20
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thegladiator!botsnack12:20
ubotu:)12:20
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xiaogilmwe: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/source: No such file or directory.  Stop.12:20
oooh_waltmwe r u there?12:20
pazuhi, im about to try a non-Microsoft OS for the first time, is ubuntu something to try?12:20
thegladiatoryes pazu12:20
mwexiaogil: what are you trying to compile?12:20
Kindredpazu, sure12:20
thegladiatorone of the best things to try12:20
mwexiaogil: it sounds like the kernel source is missing12:20
slashx1896kindred, hold on12:20
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oooh_waltmew r u there?12:21
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xiaogilmwe: do you know the exact name of package to install ?12:21
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cvt|gnuyearwhy can't i access the files on my digital camera?12:21
sharpfurniturehi12:21
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sharpfurniturewhats the universe and multiverse add thingy?12:22
pazui want to go away from Windows-like super multimedia-shopping-buttons-and shit to more slimed OS, is ubuntu ok or is it full of shit to make it "stupid-user-friendly"?12:22
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oooh_walthelp when i download iso will the txt files or other files download with it or do i have to download seperate?12:22
Kindred!universe12:22
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:22
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mwexiaogil: what are you trying to install? maybe you just need the headers12:22
sharpfurniturewhats the universe and multiverse add thingy?12:22
slashx1896kindred, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/667412:22
sharpfurniture!multiverse12:22
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:22
sharpfurniturethanks12:22
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Seveas666612:22
sharpfurnituresorry i didnt read ubotu before12:23
vkis there any way to use a webcam on msn in ubuntu?12:23
xiaogilmwe: pvrusb2-mci-20060103$ to use my WinTV PVR USB212:23
oooh_waltafter i download iso file for live cd what next?12:23
pazui want to go away from Windows-like super multimedia-shopping-buttons-and shit to more slimed OS, is ubuntu ok or is it full of shit to make it "stupid-user-friendly"?12:23
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slashx1896kindred, those errors...12:23
mwexiaogil: it's a kernel module?12:23
Seveaspazu, Ubuntu is ok12:24
Kindredslashx1896, don't worry about tht GPG error12:24
Seveasthere's no shit in Ubuntu12:24
slashx1896oh12:24
slashx1896ok12:24
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xiaogilmwe: yes, it looks to be12:24
KingHello group, this is test, pls ignore12:24
Seveas!test12:24
ubotuPassed.12:24
KingTnx12:24
oooh_walthey seveas when i d/l iso does the other  files like txt come with it? also after i d/l iso what next burn all files to cd then what?12:24
mwexiaogil: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) then if it still complains sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1212:24
xiaogilmwe: I'm trying to follow the instructions there : http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2.html12:25
bimberinot much slime in ubuntu either :P12:25
Seveasoooh_walt, you download iso and you burn the iso *as image* on cd, do net extract it or burn it as a file12:25
mwexiaogil: looks like you need the kernel source12:25
xiaogilmwe: both are already installed12:25
oooh_walti used roxio but maybe done wrong , how do i burn as "image"12:26
slashx1896kindred, im still not finding libdvdcss12:26
xiaogilmwe: what is the location of my kernel source tree ?12:26
vkis there any way to use a webcam with msn in ubuntu?12:26
mwexiaogil: check that the link /lib/modules-$(uname -r)/source is valid and point to the kernel source12:26
Kindredslashx1896, did you sudo apt-get update12:27
mwexiaogil: should be /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r) IIRC12:27
slashx1896oh, no hold on12:27
mwexiaogil: and /usr/src/linux should be a symlink pointing to it12:27
pazui got a free partition on about 7 GB, is it good enough for trying ubuntu12:27
Kindredpazu, yeah 7gb is fine12:28
mwepazu: sure12:28
slashx1896still nothing12:28
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pazuwill i have access to all other drives after installing ubuntu ( Ill go dualboot with windows xp on C:)12:28
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slashx1896i got some different errors and failed things when i did apt-get update12:29
oooh_walthey anyone when i go download iso do i download just iso or iso and txt files? also how do i burn image?12:29
mwepazu: yeah but you can't write to ntfs safly12:29
Kindredpazu, you wont be able to write to ntfs12:29
mwepazu: only read12:29
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oooh_walthow do i burn image?12:29
bimberioooh_walt: just the iso and consult your roxio manual / online-help12:29
mweoooh_walt: from linux on the command line or what?12:30
pazuok, no writing to ntfs, is ubuntu FAT32 or what?12:30
lightbrightoooh_walt: why would you want to?12:30
bimberipazu: ext312:30
bimberi(by default)12:30
pazuy is it that one cant play around with NTFS-partitions using ubuntu12:30
mwepazu: no linux system uses fat3212:30
pazuoki12:30
yggdrasildam 20 minutes12:30
yggdrasilhah12:30
mwepazu: it doesn't have permissions12:30
mwepazu: I use reiserfs, but ext3 is the default12:31
slashx1896brb all12:31
pazuomg, so there are other formats then ntfs and fat32 (fat16)12:31
dmkpazu: there is only limited write support for ntfs in the kernel, therefore most people only read from ntfs12:31
existancehow do i run totem-xine after I install it?12:31
mwepazu: like hundreds yes12:31
dmkexistance: run totem12:31
pazui feel that i will regret ever trying linux12:31
existancedmk, i see..12:32
pazui have no real reason yet win xp work great... but i want to support open-source12:32
oooh_walti downloaded iso and burned it with roxio "xp" but computer won't boot. i changed bios to boot from cd. is image ok. do i need the txt files also?12:32
mwepazu: then remove it and go back to windows12:32
pazui like the idea of open source...12:32
Kindredoooh_walt, you just need the iso but you do need to burn it correctly12:32
vkpazu, linux isnt that easy to learn if you want to12:32
vkbut it takes time12:32
mwepazu: yeah12:32
pazui even sold my PSP to buy an GP2X12:32
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existancehow do i download a .avi codec for vlc?12:33
mwepazu: it's pretty easy to install. and basic usage is not hard either. it will create a dual boot for you12:33
pazui wish there where windows-compatible open source operating system12:33
mwepazu: no12:33
mwepazu: most people still keep windows around for their games12:34
robertjok, I definately need to buy a new computer this week12:34
joey222i need some network setings help12:34
robertjmy wife has officially moved off her computer and onto mine in the female equivalent of taking a dump on your keyboard12:34
joey222anyone wanna give me a hand12:34
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robertjmy laptop now has a large glittery ... thing...covering it12:34
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Kindredsounds.. nice12:34
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pazuif one keeps windows for games, what the biggest reason for not just going win windows xp for everything else, is it so bad to run firefox from windows?12:35
yggdrasilnailioth12:35
yggdrasilnailioth  are you still around ?12:35
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john__this is the second time my mouse has completely frozen when closing a program, has linux crashed? do I need to power off and on or is there a get out of jail free card?12:35
yggdrasiltry hiting ctrl alt backspace12:36
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mwepazu: security, using free tools for what you can.12:36
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Eugmanargh. I uncommented th two lines with addtype and php in them but it doesn't seem to have made a difference. If it helps any I'm trying to run mediawiki.12:36
yggdrasiljohn try hiting ctrl alt backspace12:36
john__no response to ctrl alt bs12:36
yggdrasilctrl alt f1 ?12:36
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john__any other ideas?12:37
existancecan tar open .rar's ?12:37
dmkpazu: if you don't want to give ubuntu a full try and just want secure browsing from windows for the moment try vmwares browser appliance app12:37
dmkpazu: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/browserapp.html12:37
mweEugman: what's that, you can't make php work or what?12:37
oooh_walthow do i open txt files in download section to view and see what is on them?12:37
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yggdrasiljohn ctrl alt f1 ?12:37
dmkpazu: you can then see ubuntu in action from the comfort of Windows XP12:37
john__still no luck12:38
yggdrasilcan somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server12:38
yggdrasilsounds pretty crashed12:38
EugmanI want to to render php like it should but instead it tells firefox to dl the file12:38
yggdrasiltry ctrl alt del12:38
john__tried, still frozen12:38
mweEugman: did you read the lamp wiki?12:38
john__gnome meeting locked it up12:38
dmkpazu: please note i have never tried it myself12:38
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yggdrasilcan somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server i got it mounted but i dont have write access to it12:38
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mweEugman: I had it working in 10 minutes or so following that12:38
john__it crashed so I had to force quit it and ubuntu locked up on clicking force quit12:38
yggdrasili poseted a pastebin under yggdrasil12:38
yggdrasiljohn you goot push the power button12:39
john__yup12:39
john__:(12:39
yggdrasilyep12:39
john__bloody linux12:39
yggdrasilworks fine here12:39
yggdrasilheheh12:39
yggdrasiltry pulling some ram out12:39
yggdrasil?12:39
lightbrightUSA is the 1st BEAST that Bible warns us about, and the Vatican is the other Beast!  Revelation 17:312:39
lightbrightoops sorry, wrong window12:39
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lightbrightsorry evryone, wrong channel12:39
Kindredhehe12:39
john__i hope its not my new memory causing problems12:39
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john__just installed 2gigs of Crucial 3200 ddr12:40
LemLapUbuntuello all12:40
existancecan tar open a .rar ?12:40
john__was fairly stable before that but didnt really test it before that either12:40
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Eugmanlink?12:40
trappistexistance: no, but unrar can12:40
pazuhows linux and TCPA connected?12:40
john__and i completely trust crucial12:40
yggdrasiljohn ....12:40
yggdrasiltake it out and see what happens12:40
LemLapUbuntuTrying to install ubuntu on my laptop and it keeps failing to install the packages12:40
yggdrasilone stick at a time12:40
mwe!tell Eugman about lamp12:40
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existancetrappist, mm, there a package for that?12:40
LemLapUbuntuanyone go any ideas?12:40
mweEugman: read the /msg from ubotu12:40
john__yggdrasil, but its not a very patterned crash12:41
john__it happened in evolution before12:41
john__now in gnome meeting12:41
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yggdrasilthats what bad ram will do12:41
john__i never know when12:41
john__been using it for an hour or so12:41
john__maybes i should run memtest8612:41
yggdrasilcan somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server i got it mounted but i dont have write access to it i got pastebin under yggdrasil.12:41
mwejohn__: check the log files12:41
bimberiexistance: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree12:41
LemLapUbuntui'd always run memtest after putting ram in12:41
trappistexistance: I recommend unrar-nonfree if you want to work with files made in the last few years12:41
john__mwe, where r they?12:41
mwejohn__: /var/log12:41
john__mwe, will they tell me if it was ram?12:41
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Pygifreaky: ping ping ping12:42
LemLapUbuntucan anyone help me with this problem?12:42
mwejohn__: maybe they indicate something, but they don't say "your machine crashed due to bad ram"12:42
existancetrappist, nonfree isnt in synaptic :/12:42
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trappist!tell existance about repos12:43
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PygiLemLapUbuntu: what seems to be ur problem?12:43
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LemLapUbuntuit get thru the 1st install stage fine12:43
LemLapUbuntuinstalls grub and stuff ok12:43
yggdrasillemlap samething happend to me12:43
yggdrasilis it a dell old dell12:44
LemLapUbuntuthen it goes to install the next lot of packaes and dies with a big message saying it could not install the packages12:44
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LemLapUbuntunah it's a toshiba portege 2000 and i'm doing a netboot install12:44
pazuis ubuntu fast to boot?12:44
yggdrasilhmm strange12:44
PygiLem: well, probably media is not OK: scratched or something, or low disc space12:44
yggdrasili did mine off the cd12:44
mweLemLapUbuntu: bad cd maybe?12:44
yggdrasiland it gave me that12:44
Pygipazu: yes, but dapper is even faster :D12:44
LemLapUbuntunot off a cd. direct off the net12:44
mwepazu: 25 seconds or so for me12:44
LemLapUbuntucould it be the archive?12:44
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PygiLemLapUbuntu: bad connection or hard drive?12:44
LemLapUbuntuafter the error message it drops to a login prompt12:45
mwepazu: maybe less12:45
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LemLapUbuntui don't think eeither of them pygi12:45
cvt|gnuyeari get awful sounds when playing only wav files. i have vlc, xine, mplayer and others; what could be the problem?12:45
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LemLapUbuntuhas no problems up till that stage12:45
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yggdrasilcan somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server i got it mounted but i dont have write access to it i got pastebin under yggdrasil.12:45
mcphailIs anyone using mythtv under amd64? Are you using standard repositories?12:45
PygiLemLapUbuntu: huh, the archive is fine.... unless you tried installing dapper?12:45
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LemLapUbuntunfi what dapper is12:45
LemLapUbuntuam doing a normal breezy badger install off au.archive.ubuntu.com12:46
Pygiubotu tell  LemLapUbuntu about dapper12:46
mweyggdrasil: isn't that because the windows server don't allow it?12:46
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PygiLemLap: try just archive.ubuntu.com12:46
bimberiLemLapUbuntu: see if you can log in and complete the install with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"12:46
LemLapUbuntuok will do12:46
mweyggdrasil: and what's the url to your paste?12:46
CodenameKT!dapper12:46
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake12:46
LemLapUbuntuanyone know hwo to restart the package setup with out going all the way thru the whole setup12:46
pazucame to think of it, how is ATIlinux support?12:47
LemLapUbuntuatm it boots to a login prompt12:47
LemLapUbuntupazu shit12:47
Pygi!Ati12:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1012:47
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bimberiLemLapUbuntu: see my post :)12:47
mwepazu: it works12:47
Pygiati works good12:47
PygiI have ati card :)12:47
LemLapUbuntuok will try that12:47
Pygibut nvidia works better :P12:47
Kindredati are trying a bit harder12:47
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XiPHello12:47
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yggdrasilmwe is the um12:48
Seveasati drivers are much better than nvidia12:48
yggdrasilmwe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/667512:48
PygiSeveas: huh, not really :/12:48
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XiP?Q? What's a command I can use to check the kernel version?12:48
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SeveasPygi, they are12:48
Kindredno composite support..12:48
Seveasthey support suspend12:48
yggdrasilmwe it shoudl allow it hahah12:48
PygiSeveas: I have much better experience with nvidia ones :/12:48
cvt|gnuyearwhy can't i play two media files simultaneously?12:48
mcphailXiP: uname -r12:48
PygiSeveas: huh? I have suspend as well on ATI :/12:48
XiPmcphail: thx12:48
Seveasand the OSS drivers do composite if you want that12:48
CodenameKTseveas: nvidia supports ut 2004 on linux12:48
Lee22Hey guys, I installed NSF and in /etc/exports I have my PowerBook's iP shared to /home/myusername with options RW.  It mounts fine on my powerbook but I can't write to it says I don't have the necessary permission, even though its set at rw?  Anyone know what's wrong?12:49
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odatwell i guess its time to just reinstall12:49
odat:(12:49
Seveasati delivers debs of their drivers :)12:49
existancehow do i run a .exe ?12:49
yggdrasilnailoth12:49
Seveasexistance, reboot into windows12:49
odatexistance, wine12:49
bimberiubotu tell existance about wine12:49
PygiSeveas: huh, well, probably, but I don't care if I have or I don't have a deb package...using make is not a problem for me12:49
LemLapUbuntuokay i've done that command bimberi12:49
Pygiit's preffered way of installing things for me :)12:49
LemLapUbuntuand now it's asking for a root password12:49
kurrosunless you are talking about a C# .exe12:49
LemLapUbuntuwhich i didn't setup12:49
bimberiLemLapUbuntu: your password12:50
Pygiuse ur user pass12:50
CodenameKTseveas: i dont know much about nvidia i have ati but i can tell u that i have found some things only nvidia supported12:50
Lee22Anyone know?12:50
SeveasCodenameKT, same for ati :)12:50
LemLapUbuntuah cool12:50
LemLapUbuntuworking now12:50
LemLapUbuntuthanks12:50
oooh_waltwhen i download iso i burned it with roxio but iso won't load up at start up. do i need txt files also in iso?12:50
yggdrasili should be able to mount an smb drive from a windows server12:50
SeveasCodenameKT, and old ati cards are still supported, nvidia just ditched all support for old cards12:50
bimberiubotu tell LemLapUbuntu about root12:50
yggdrasildont see how it realy matters12:50
PygiCodenameK: I have ATI card, and it works great, so don't get me wrong, but I still think nvidia drivers are just better  :)12:51
CodenameKTseveas: That's not too nice. Sounds like microsoft xbox12:51
oooh_waltbimberi when i download iso i burned it with roxio but iso won't load up at start up. do i need txt files also in iso?12:51
LemLapUbuntuthanks bimberi12:51
footi have this old amd k6 300mhz... Anybody know of an insanely outdated, dorky and dusty OS i could put on it (for kicks and giggles)12:51
foot;)12:51
mweyggdrasil: paste your /etc/samba/smb.conf12:51
Eugmanhey mwe12:51
bimberioooh_walt: you don't need the txt files, just the iso file which you burn as an image (ie. don't just burn the iso file onto a cd)12:51
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Kindredoooh_walt, just the iso burned as an image12:51
bimberiLemLapUbuntu: np :)12:51
mweEugman: hey12:51
Ophiocuspaste?12:52
Eugmancould you clarify "Edit Apache Configuration" section and if I need to do it12:52
Ophiocuswhere?12:52
Ophiocushere?12:52
Ophiocusdont you dare12:52
LemLapUbuntui think i'll keep this window open in case i need more help :-D12:52
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oooh_waltbimberi step by step plz , i'm doing somthing wrong.12:52
cdehaanHow do I erase the MBR with fdisk?12:52
EugmanThe first think I found was www-data and I think that's probably supposed to be a group12:52
bimberioooh_walt: i have no idea how roxio works - it's a windows program after all :)12:53
mweOphiocus: of course not in the channel. he knows how to use pastebin12:53
LemLapUbuntuif anyone wants help with seeting up a windows machine as a netboot server i'm your man :-D12:53
oooh_walti know i want to test ubuntu, help12:53
Pygiseveas: and I've learned that nvidia delivers much better opengl optimizations and performance when using opengl in coding :)12:53
Ophiocusjust warning happy i am12:53
yggdrasilmwe im just using mount -t smbfs ?12:53
mcphailcdehaan: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdisk bs=512 count=112:53
Ophiocus:P12:53
nekostarso i take it that planet mirror is down12:53
nekostaras my system cant stat packages and um12:53
mweyggdrasil: yeah. pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf12:54
nekostarunknown error executing gpgv12:54
yggdrasilman its porbobly empty12:54
yggdrasilill do it now12:54
nekostaranyone else having the same problem there?12:54
CodenameKTpygi yeah but ati has the ansii card for ansii gaming roar!!12:54
nekostaryggdrasil,12:54
Kindredoooh_walt: # Start the 'Record CD from CD Image' feature.12:54
KindredFrom Easy CD Creator's File menu, select Record CD from CD Image.12:54
nekostarwhat did u get your nick from?12:54
yggdrasilneko12:54
nekostarits really familiar but i can't place it12:54
nekostarhi btw12:54
nekostar:D12:54
yggdrasiloh yea12:54
yggdrasilhehe12:54
yggdrasilits atree12:54
cdehaanyggdrasil... old linux distro?12:54
yggdrasilor a zenogears12:54
PygiCodename: heh :P12:54
yggdrasilcde breazy12:54
nekostarah12:54
LemLapUbuntuyay12:55
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yggdrasiland an old linux distro12:55
LemLapUbuntuit's working12:55
oooh_waltkindred ok after record then what ?12:55
mweyggdrasil: well for just mounting a windows machine share it's probably no use. forget about it. sorry12:55
cyphasewhat's the command to uncompress a .tar.gz file12:55
bimberiLemLapUbuntu: great! :)12:55
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cdehaanmcphail, I think I want an fdisk command...12:55
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yggdrasilmwe thats what im saying its supposed to come up ins fstab and mount12:55
Kindredoooh_walt, i'm just reading this off a site but it seems easy enough - just burn your iso like that12:55
yggdrasilive got it all there12:55
PygiLemLap: works now?12:55
LemLapUbuntuyeah12:55
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LemLapUbuntugetting the packages atm12:55
cvt|gnuyearHow can i fix the terrible distortion i hear when playing wav files?12:55
mweyggdrasil: yeah12:55
TestMADis there a way to make my current ubuntu install and settings into a livecd?12:55
LemLapUbuntuany idea how many it will get?12:55
yggdrasili think it has something to do with uid gid12:56
mweyggdrasil: you can mount it but not write?12:56
PygiLemLap: congrats :)12:56
yggdrasilexactly12:56
DreamgliderHey, anyone here use Synergy ?12:56
Pygi!patience12:56
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:56
cdehaanmcphail, Nevermind, it appears that is right.12:56
cdehaanmcphail, Thanks for your help.12:56
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mweyggdrasil: can you write if you're root?12:56
oooh_walti did that and now it says i can only open it with roxio. the image is there, i see it. but whe i reboot it won't start ubuntu12:56
bimbericyphase: tar xvzf file.tar.gz12:56
oooh_waltkindre look at previous message12:57
cyphasethat's the one :P12:57
cyphasethanx bimberi12:57
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bimberiLemLapUbuntu: there might be a % complete figure on the left12:57
bimbericyphase: np :)12:57
LemLapUbuntunope12:57
LemLapUbuntu:-(12:57
LemLapUbuntuoh well12:57
bimberihm12:57
oooh_waltkindred the image is there, it won't start when i reboot.12:57
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scummbarhi people, can anybody tell me the permisions that I must change to make a directory witrable by apache in ubuntu breezy? I can't find wich users is running apache12:57
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yggdrasilbah ok ill deal with this tomorow12:58
yggdrasilthanks guys12:58
LemLapUbuntujust has like get:# ftp://blah.blah.blah filename version size12:58
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Ophiocusscummbar, sudo chmod 777 /dir/for/apache/dir12:59
mweOphiocus: bad idea12:59
scummbaryes...12:59
Ophiocusthat opens up the dir to any user for any purpose12:59
mweOphiocus: insecure as hell01:00
scummbaranybody could del my files01:00
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Ophiocusand its not secure,. but for playing around with apache it works01:00
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scummbarhow can I solve my problema?01:01
mcphailHas anyone managed to install mythtv under amd64?01:01
mwescummbar: well just change owner to www-data I think01:01
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scummbarchown -R www.data /var/www01:01
mwescummbar: I think that the user apache runs as at least01:01
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mwescummbar: or rather it is01:02
scummbarroot      4945  0.0  3.4  16456  7652 ?        Ss    2005   0:00 /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start01:02
scummbarnobody   26600  0.0  6.5  23056 14780 ?        S     2005   4:58 /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start01:02
cosmo_file browser01:02
MorgIs Ubuntu ever going to release a Firefox 1.5 package?01:02
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Kindrednot for breezy01:03
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MorgKindred: Why not?01:03
mwescummbar: how did you run apache and are we talking apache2?01:03
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LemLapUbuntucause dapper comes out soon?01:03
scummbaryes01:03
scummbarapache201:03
mweLemLapUbuntu: yeah in 4 months01:03
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LemLapUbuntuoh01:04
KindredMorg, 1.5 has some changes that can't be backported without breaking stuff01:04
LemLapUbuntulol01:04
mwescummbar: how did you start it?01:04
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LemLapUbuntumeh i'm gonna use opera anyway01:04
LemLapUbuntui like my tabbed browsing and mouse gestures too much01:04
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KindredMorg, you can of course just install it to a dir as it is though01:04
MorgKindred: So when does the next version of Ubuntu come out?01:04
athlonhave anyone else here noticed that Firefox in ubuntu / linux is MUCH slower than its windows counterpart01:05
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KindredMorg, April01:05
mwescummbar: cause I have: www-data  3360  0.0  0.3  13912  3128 ?        S    Jan05   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL01:05
Morgathlon: No, but I've noticed Firefox constantly crashing in Ubuntu01:05
Eugmanyeah ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle01:05
dueyfinsterHelp needed, I accidently misconfigured xserver-xorg and now its gone. I cannot resolve my router to reinstall it on command line.01:05
scummbarmwe /etc/init.d/01:05
KindredI think 1.0.0.7 in default breezy is very clunky/slow01:05
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MorgI'm not sure I get why they can't update Firefox.01:05
mwescummbar: and what you pasted was from ps aux|grep apache ?01:06
scummbaryep01:06
mweMorg: because stuff that depends on gecko will break01:06
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mweMorg: that's like 50 things or more01:06
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Eugmancould someone explain why I have to do this? "Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache."01:06
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Eugman!lamp01:07
ubotulamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP01:07
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cjEugman: I heard mysql.  can I help you?01:07
dueyfinsterAny way to reinstall xserver off ubuntu cd?01:07
JoeBlowhas anyone had any problems with loki where it cant find cds or isos?01:07
Morgmwe: So if I can install it myself in a new directory, why don't they make a new package that does the same thing, but integrates with the other things I've installed?01:07
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Hericushttp://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/01/04/largest.prime.number.ap/index.html01:07
mweMorg: like I told you it would break too much stuff01:08
EugmanI'm hesistant about the edit apache configurations under the explaination of a lamp install because it seems like www-data is what it should be01:08
KindredMorg, it's the integrating that's the problem01:08
Morgmwe: I guess you didn't read my statement.01:08
bimberidueyfinster: can you tried running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?01:08
mweMorg: read http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20051212#3 for reference. you installing it yourself keeps the old one around for stuff that needs the old gecko01:08
bimberis/can/have/01:08
dueyfinsterNo bisber will do01:08
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leddtHey anyone can help me? I'm tryng to boot from the live cd (amd64 version) but I get an error when xserver is starting : Failed to start the X server. Error details says no screens found. Any idea what may be causing this ?01:09
Morgmwe: Precisely, so why can't they make a package that does the equivalent of what installing it yourself does?01:09
JoeBlowhow do i enable joliet extensions?01:09
mweMorg: they could. but that would mean having two versions of firefox around01:09
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Morgmwe: And why can't they do that?01:09
dueyfinsterXserver is broken or not fully installed01:09
dueyfinsterBisber: xserver is broken01:10
mweMorg: I guess they could. I don't know why they wont. maybe they think it's a mess01:10
xiaogilHow to install 'ncurses-devel', it's not in the reposits...?01:10
Dreamgliderdoes anyone use quicksynergy ?01:10
JoeBlowhow do i enable joliet extensions?01:10
corresponderdueyfinster: all installed?01:10
Morgmwe: Seems like they already made a mess if they can't install new versions of a web browser.01:10
mweMorg: no wrong01:11
correspondersudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree8601:11
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LemLapUbuntuheh. i think this is doing he 812 packages it said it needed01:11
Some_Bodyby default, sudo doesn't require a password, right?01:11
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Morgmwe: How so?01:11
mweMorg: firefox developers should start thinking and not change the api all the time01:11
bimberidueyfinster: looks like a reinstall then01:11
Some_Bodybecause I ddin't set one, but whenever I run sudo I'm prompted for a password01:11
KindredSome_Body, sure it does01:11
dueyfinsterCorresponder: No cant resolve ra0 (wireless) router to update, can do it off cd?01:11
bimberiSome_Body: it uses your user password01:11
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leddtcorresponder: so I run this and it may help ?01:12
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corresponderwhich cd?01:12
JoeBlowhow do i enable joliet extensions?01:12
Some_Bodyok, thanks01:12
dueyfinsterBisber: must be a way01:12
corresponderthe ubuntu one has all on it to make X wokr01:12
Ophiocusone short question,. whats img extention for and opens that?01:12
mweMorg: making it independent of other apps would mean not installing anything the depends on gecko01:12
leddt(I'm pretty new to linux in general)01:12
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bimberidueyfinster: edit sources.list , comment out everything except the CD line, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg01:12
mweMorg: that includes the help browser and other stuff01:12
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TestMADwhats the esiest way to turn my ubuntu install int a livecd?01:13
Morgmwe: If Ubuntu set up any of their software so that it was dependent on Firefox, then I'd say Ubuntu already made a mess.01:13
puslingwhat version of xorg are the ubuntu livecds using ? any one with 6.9 ?01:13
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navaronetestmad why not just use the live cd?01:14
cyphase*sigh*01:14
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TestMADdoesnt have fluxbox01:14
TestMADor my fonts01:14
TestMADor any apps that i use01:14
jahshua--hey guys i would like to set/up use ethereal.. anyone got any tips? good links? i have absolutely no idea what to do with it01:15
mweMorg: I guess keeping gecko as a seperate package and providing firefox as standalone would solve. file a bug report01:15
khermansAnyone know how to convert videos for use on my new iPod?01:15
JoeBlowanyone had any luck with loki game installer?01:15
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polpakmwe, I'm pretty sure that's what they're planning to do for dapper01:15
luisALGUIEN QUE ABLE ESPAOL???01:15
polpak!es01:15
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:15
cyphasejahshua--, why do you want it?01:15
khermansI used something in Windows, but I don't know how to do it in Linux01:15
mwepolpak: good idea01:15
luisOLAAAAAAAAAAA01:15
jahshua--cyphase: because i want to know if im being snooped on etc01:16
cvt|gnuyearwhy can't i close xine?01:16
jahshua--im a paranoid kind of person :)01:16
polpakcvt|gnuyear, did it lock?01:16
luisOLAAAAAAAAAAAAA01:16
cvt|gnuyearpolpak, yes01:16
luisESPAOL??01:16
cyphasejahshua--, you mean you want to know if you have spyware?01:16
polpakubotu tell luis about es01:16
mwepolpak: I must agree not being able to upgrade a browser seems like a design flaw to me too01:16
luisNO ENTIENDO01:16
jahshua--cyphase: hmm well i wasent aware that linux has spyware issues to be honest01:16
polpakcvt|gnuyear, you can kill the process then01:16
Mabus06my rhythmbox is not working, and nobody seems to be able to help me, so I'd rather just get a new program that plays mp3s for gnome, can anyone reccomend one?01:16
cyphaseit doesn't01:16
cyphasethat's my point01:17
jahshua--cyphase: that wasent really my concern01:17
cyphasewell, anyway01:17
cyphasejust install it like any other program01:17
jahshua--cyphase: i didnt mention spyware, you did :)01:17
psusino nintendo?  how terrible!01:17
luisOLA POLPAK01:17
cyphasesudo apt-get install ethereal01:17
polpakMabus06, totem plays MP3's01:17
jahshua--cyphase: right i know that part :) i have no clue how its used/set up01:17
luisQ ALGUIEN ME AYUDE PARA ABLAR CON ALGUIEN Q TENGA UBUNTU01:17
polpakMabus06, just doesn't do the whole music library thing people seems so fond of01:18
mweluis: cut the caps and speak english or leave01:18
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psusi!es01:18
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:18
xiaogilHow to install 'ncurses-devel', it's not in the reposits...?01:18
scummbarluis: query :)01:18
luisOK01:18
Eugmandangit! I followed all the instructions from !lamp and php is still not working!01:18
luisperdonar todos01:18
JoeBlowany of you guys use cedega?01:18
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polpakxiaogil, libncurses-dev01:18
JoeBlowcvs cedega01:18
cyphasejahshua--, you should go to http://www.ethereal.com then01:18
cyphaseit has to many features to explain on IRC01:18
luispero donde puedo entrar en un sitio q ablen espaol?01:19
jahshua--k01:19
Mabus06polpak, know another program that has a library thing?01:19
navaronepolpak...generally nautilus file browser is my music library interface...at least I tend to use it more than rythmbox01:19
scummbarluis: atiende mi privado01:19
cyphasejahshua--, but for basic usage, it's very easy01:19
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polpakMabus06, only amrok, and it uses KDE libs01:19
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cyphaseyou just start a capture01:19
cyphasethere's a button :P01:19
mwe/ignore is a wonderful feature01:19
polpaknavarone, yeah, I know01:19
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polpaknavarone, but some people (like my wife) can't live without em ;p01:19
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jahshua--cyphase: ok thanks :)01:20
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cyphasejahshua--, np :)01:20
navaronepolapk...i find r-box library can make files hard to find...especially if they have weird character encoding...like Russian or such...or if the tag info leaves out inportant things like title...or artist...:/01:20
luisolaaaaaaaaaaaaaa01:20
mpattoni just did a Breezy upgrade with dist-upgrade, but my X windows is now hosed.  I am downloading Breezy ISO from a mirror now.  My question is whether or not I will need to reformat.01:21
luisscummm01:21
scummbarmi privado01:21
Eugmanharumph. The html is working on my server but the php isn't.01:21
scummbarluis /query01:21
luisprivado01:21
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scummbarsorry mwe01:21
navaroneMabus06 what difficulties is r-box giving out of curiosity?01:21
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MrFaberhi all01:22
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luisscummm?01:22
polpakmpatton, just save your /home directory to a different partition. Then you can upgrade without losing any of your important data01:22
CodyDHHello!01:22
luisablame en privado pliss01:23
CodyDHWhat kind of support is there for Ubuntu on PPC?01:23
MrFaberI have two network cards and I want a special eth0 and eth1 allocation but ubuntu has twisted them01:23
seth_k|lappySeveas, ajmitch, hi. Could you guys take care of luis please.01:23
mweCodyDH: good support I think01:23
MrFaberI have created a file in modutils and used alias commands but it didn't help01:23
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bimberiTestMAD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LiveCDCustomizationHowTo01:23
MrFaberWhat can I do about that?01:23
polpakscummbar, I've had ubotu msg luis several times. He's just feigning ignorance and spamming01:23
seth_k|lappythanks Seveas, I appreciate it :)01:23
Seveasseth_k|lappy, de nada01:23
mpattonpolpak: i only have one partition on my drive01:23
CodyDHmwe: Ok...01:23
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Seveasjust use the !ops trigger :)01:23
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luishola scummbar01:24
luisestas01:24
seth_k|lappySeveas, he's back :P01:24
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navarone<shiver> ops witha  trigger...scary...<s>01:24
polpakmpatton, well you can use parted to make 201:24
LemLapUbuntuyup01:24
mpattonpolpak thanks.01:24
mweSeveas: will !ops actually get the ops attention?01:24
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polpakmpatton, just resize your original one01:24
LemLapUbuntuit's doing all 800 packages01:24
LemLapUbuntuupto 266 now01:24
polpakmpatton, to make room01:24
LemLapUbuntuthis is gonna take awhile01:24
polpakmpatton, ubuntu (the OS part) only needs at most like 5 gigs01:24
LemLapUbuntustupid 512kbit adsl01:25
mpattonvery nice01:25
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echeeseHow do I get dualboot working?01:25
Seveasmwe, yes01:25
mpattonthanks for the info01:25
polpakmpatton, sure thing01:25
Seveasmwe, so don't abuse it01:25
JoeBlowcan someon help me out with cvs cedega please?01:25
mweSeveas: of course not01:25
polpakmpatton, you can then just mount the 2nd partition as your home when you install breezy01:25
JoeBlowcan someone , anyone, please help me out here with cvs cedega01:26
polpakJoeBlow, nope. I just use wine.. And even that grudgingly.01:26
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Eugmanecheese I found this video perfect when I installed a dual boot setup for ubuntu video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu01:26
echeeseOoh01:27
JoeBlowpolpak: im using a tutorials, and it tells me to run a file, but i dont know where that file is or something01:27
echeeseThanks Eugman01:27
Eugmannp01:27
polpakJoeBlow, what file does it say to run?01:27
JoeBlowpolpak: cvscedega01:27
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leddtHey can any body help me? I have a boot problem related to xserver (using livecd amd64). Private message please!01:27
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polpakJoeBlow, dunno01:28
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JoeBlowpolpak: is their a way to search the harddrive?01:28
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polpakJoeBlow, locate filename01:28
mweleddt: why not keep it public so other people can benefit from it?01:28
JoeBlowpolpak: where do i put the harddrive name in their?01:29
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EugmanDoes anyone here know why php might not be working properly but the html is fine?01:29
mweEugman: yeah the module is not loaded or set up correctly01:29
polpakJoeBlow, you don't. It searches the locate database which is built from all the files on your filesystem01:29
mweEugman: read !lamp01:29
EugmanI did01:29
leddtalright, I get an error when xserver is starting, it says no screens found. I am pretty new to linux in general so I have no idea where to look.01:29
EugmanI'l re read but I'm sure I did what it said01:29
cvt|gnuyearis there not a .wav player that has a repeat button?01:30
hou5tonI didn't find how to do this in Keyboard shortcuts ... is there a way to make the "windows" key on my keyboard be a hot button to open Synaptic?01:30
echeeseCan ubuntu write to ntfs?01:30
bur[n] erecheese: if you get the captive NTFS driver01:30
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bur[n] erhou5ton: gconf-editor  ... apps -> metacity -> global-keybindings01:31
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stoneagentfs is evil01:31
Eugmanno echeese01:31
stoneagefat32 rules!01:31
hou5tonbur[n] er:  I thought the answer to echeese's question was NO ... are you saying I CAN write to NTFS?01:31
polpakhou5ton, just be sure you bind to the command gksudo synaptic01:31
bur[n] ergeorge bush is evil, ntfs is just proprietary01:31
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EugmanWell generally speaking no01:32
bur[n] erhou5ton: yes, with captive NTFS driver... like i said01:32
Avenhow do I stop ubuntu from making random noises?01:32
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navaroneAven define "random noises"01:32
cafuegoAven: Unplug the speakers01:32
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stoneageAven: stop using drugs01:32
leddtany idea anyone?01:32
cafuegoCall ghostbusters01:32
Avendo you guys sit here to flame or help?01:32
stoneagelol01:32
stoneageflame01:33
stoneageobisously01:33
EugmanAven: Large hammer? You need to specify the source. is it from the speakers or the computer.01:33
lightbrightAven: dont judge01:33
Avenyou're doing a good job, twat01:33
BlackoakIs this the correct channel for help with ubuntu?01:33
bur[n] erleddt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:33
cafuegoAven: If you define the problem a bit better we MIGHT be able to help.01:33
echeeseI'm just getting ready for linux01:33
AvenEugman: the fuckinh computer01:33
Avendistro, actually01:33
lightbrightAven: why do you think you are a twat?01:33
echeeseWhat about windows network shares?01:33
cafuegoAven: Mind you, abusing people here isn't goign to make them want to help you more.01:33
AvenI'm not the only one that gets the random annoying noises01:33
CodenameKTblackoak:yes01:33
cafuegoAven: WHAT random annoying noises?01:33
Avencafuego: you're the one that started the fucking flame, so hush up01:33
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JoeBlowpolpak: shit now it gives me an authentication error, what does that mean?01:34
cafuego!tell Aven about coc01:34
mixandgohello everyone, any ideea on how to install emacs-cvs on ubuntu ?01:34
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Seveas!tell Aven about attitude01:34
navaroneAven are you talking noises like event sounds or rumbling in your puter case?01:34
JoeBlowcvs wine gives me "authentication error" when loading profiles, any ideas?01:34
lightbrightAven: are you still taking your depression medication?01:34
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cvt|gnuyearxine gets stuck everytime i try to play a file.01:34
cafuegolightbright: Stop it01:34
leddtthanks burner I'll go try that01:34
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lightbrightcafuego: hey, dont tell me what to do like that in public unless you are an op!01:34
stoneageaplay strange_sound.wav01:34
cafuegolightbright: Seveas is my bot. Beware!01:35
JoeBlowcvs wine gives me "authentication error" when loading profiles, any ideas?01:35
lightbrightcafuego: besides, i had finished anyway01:35
BlackoakI'm looking to find out which package the rpcgen program is part of in ubuntu breezy, does anyone know?01:35
lightbrightcafuego: im NOW im on guard :)01:35
Seveascafuego, lightbright, relax...01:35
hou5tonbur[n] er:  you wrote gconf-editor ..... I'm not sure what you want me to do with that?01:35
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lightbrightcafuego: i had finished anyway, just dont like seeing nice people like you getting ripped by others :)01:36
lightbrightSeveas: ok :)01:36
cvt|gnuyearI get strange_sound.wav too01:36
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cafuegolightbright: Stop calling me nice *kick* ;-)01:36
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lightbrightcafuego: lol :)01:37
BlackoakI thought that rpcgen was part of the basic glibc install but apparently it's not :)01:37
dueyfinsterHow'd you do gedit without a gui?01:37
Seveascafuego, take your hidden fantasies to -offtopic kplzthxbye01:37
Seveasdueyfinster, nano01:37
cafuegodueyfinster: not01:37
Seveas:)01:37
cafuegodueyfinster: you need to use an editor without an X gui, like nano, or vim, or emacs.01:37
Deterministvim/emacs are evul01:38
navaroneBlackoak try in terminal "dpkg -Lrpcgen"01:38
Deterministhaving to learn how to use a text editor makes no sense to me01:38
navaroneBlackoak try in terminal "dpkg -L rpcgen" <-- sorry01:38
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cvt|gnuyearIs there any working media players out there?01:38
cafuegoDeterminist: Then use nano.01:38
JoeBlowhow come the locate file does nothing for me?01:38
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cvt|gnuyearare01:38
EugmanAnyone have any idea on how I can figure out the source of my php problem?01:39
JoeBlowi run locate command and it does nothing01:39
hou5tonpolpak:  I don't understand what you mean by gksudo binding ???01:39
cafuegoSeveas: I wouldn't exactly call them hidden <heh>01:39
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Deterministcafuego, i do :)01:39
cafuegoJoeBlow: Hopw are you running it?01:39
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Manjunkhieyoas all!01:39
sfire||mouseJoeBlow: try running updatedb01:39
JoeBlowcafuego: locate cvscedega01:39
BlackoakLooks like -L is an incorrect option to dpkg01:39
dueyfinsterThis may be a silly qust01:39
Manjunki have a quiestionnaireas, kinda newb i guess, but im not used to linx >_<01:40
polpakhou5ton, you have to use gksudo for synaptic otherwise you won't have proper permissions01:40
polpakManjunk, linx or linux?01:40
dueyfinsterhowd ypu use options in  nano?01:40
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cafuegoJoeBlow: locate runs on a database that's indexed at 6:25 am. if you downloaded AFTER 6:25, it won't locate it until tomorrow.01:40
Manjunklinux** ubuntu, specifically (this is my first time running linux)01:40
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navaroneBlackoak..hmm...that's what dpkg -help says tho01:40
polpakManjunk, ah, ok01:40
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cafuegoJoeBlow: Try 'find / -iname "*cvscedega*"'01:40
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JoeBlowcafuego: ok one second01:41
EugmanWell go ahead and ask manjunk01:41
JoeBlowcafuego: god damn cvs cedega is giving me problems installing01:41
mixandgoany ideea on how to install emacs-cvs on ubuntu ?01:41
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navaroneBlackoak try with -S instead01:41
Manjunksynaptic package manager is only giving me version 1.07 of firefox, and the website has 1.5 available for update01:41
hou5tonpolpak:  ok ... i think I got that part ... now ... where do I start?   I'm not sure what was meant for me to do with gconf-edit ..... apps etc.01:41
Seveasmixandgo, apt-get build-dep emacs01:41
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cafuegoManjunk: breezy has 1.0.7 as newest version.01:41
Seveasthen get the source01:41
Seveasand do the configure make make install dance01:42
Manjunki downloaded the .tar.gz  file, now i need to find a way to actually get it to work =/01:42
polpakManjunk, 1.5 will be in the next version of ubuntu01:42
polpakManjunk, is there a reason you 'must' use 1.5?01:42
xiaogilWhat does bluejob mean ?01:42
navaroneI can't do that dance...two left feet...<sigh>01:42
Manjunkoohh, i cant download the program myself and get it working?01:42
SunbugWhat package gives me the /lib/modules/$KERNEL-VERSION/build folder?01:42
xiaogilSorry, what does blowjob mean ?01:42
BlackoakIt lists a syntax file from vim-common01:42
cafuegoSeveas: Nono, cp -a debian; edit debian/changelog; and dpkg-buildpackage -b often work fine. (and result in a .deb!)01:42
Blackoakhmmmm01:42
JoeBlowwhen i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure01:42
polpakManjunk, You can, but it would not be easy for a self proclaimed linux newb01:42
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Manjunknot a "must", just a very very useful javascript plugin i saw requires the isntall of some other program, that only uses 1.501:42
dueyfinsterPlease I just need info on how to use options in Nano at th bottom, can anyone help me?01:42
Manjunkha! i know ^_^01:43
cvt|gnuyearWhat do you do on ubuntu?01:43
polpakduende, the ^ indicates CTRL01:43
stoneagejust use mozilla.org binaries or compile it yourself01:43
echeeseHow do I make samba shares?01:43
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polpakdueyfinster, so ^O would be CTRL-)01:43
polpakdueyfinster, err CTRL-O01:43
jdongumm, what's prat.ubuntu.com01:43
cafuego!tel Manjunk -about ff1.501:43
ubotucafuego: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!01:43
navaroneduey...most function require you to press ...I believe...ctrl and key to perform action...like ctrl-x to close or exit...maybe shift and key though01:43
cafuego!tell Manjunk -about ff1.501:44
jdongwe have some forum peoople concerned about seemingly random netstat connections to prat.ubuntu.com01:44
dueyfinsterpolpak thanks!01:44
cafuegoManjunk: See the url ubotu gave you.01:44
jdongit has a very weird front page, too01:44
JoeBlowwhen i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure01:44
mixandgoSeveas, E: Unable to find a source package for emacs01:44
Manjunkaahh, thanks01:44
mcphailHas anyone managed to install mythtv under amd64?01:44
jdonghttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113085 for forum topic01:44
echeeseUm, how do I get Flash player working under AM6401:44
cafuegoecheese: in a 32bit chroot01:45
hou5tonpolpak:  ok ... i think I got that part ... now ... where do I start?   I'm not sure what was meant for me to do with gconf-edit ..... apps etc.01:45
slashx1896Can someone help me copy a movie to a blank dvd??01:45
echeesecafuego: Are there instructions?01:45
mcphail!chroot01:46
ubotumethinks chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457501:46
cafuegoecheese: The only ones I've seen were for Debian. To be honest, if you need flash you're better off installing 32bit Ubuntu.01:46
mcphailecheese: the second url01:46
JoeBlowwhen i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure, anyone know how to help this?01:46
polpakjdong, I haven't seen anything like that from my system01:46
slashx1896anyone? ive tryed other things but im confused... i just wanna copy my movie to a blank dvd01:47
JoeBlowslashx1896, tried gnomebacker?01:47
slashx1896gnomebacker does it?01:47
JoeBlowslashx1896, tried gnomebaker?01:47
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JoeBlowslashx1896, im pretty sure01:47
slashx1896itry01:47
slashx1896how do i get the dvd image?01:48
slashx1896from my dvd.01:48
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polpakhou5ton, applications->system tools->configuration editor01:49
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JoeBlowwhen i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure, anyone know how to help this?01:49
hou5tonpolpak:  oh ... ok ... thanks01:50
polpakhou5ton, then in there go to apps->metacity->keybinding commands and global keybindings01:50
slashx1896anyone? how do i get the dvd image from my movi so i can burn it to a play dvd01:50
slashx1896movie*01:50
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Toma-JoeBlow: you mean cedergacvs?01:50
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xiaogilhow to watch a dvd image ?01:51
cvt|gnuyeari have never learned how to fix any problem in a help file.01:51
Linuturkanyone know of a good reference for linux? any good books?01:51
JoeBlowToma: im using this http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4501:51
echeeseHow do I copy a dvd?01:51
cvt|gnuyeari01:51
cvt|gnuyeari'd like to know, also01:51
joey222he dam config file from root01:51
Toma-slashx1896: is it copy protected?01:52
polpakLinuturk, which aspect are you trying to learn?01:52
Toma-echeese: cpdvd01:52
slashx1896Toma- not sure01:52
echeeseToma-: What if it's css-encoded?01:52
Linuturkpolpak, anything in general. An overall view, and some ubuntu/debian based stuff would be nice01:52
navaroneLinuturk, for linux in general I would suggest Linux Desk Reference by Scott hawkins...has pretty much all commands listed with examples of usage01:52
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slashx1896Toma-, how do i find out if it is?01:52
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joey222is der book on ubuntu all in01:53
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polpakLinuturk, much of learning is just using it. In the same way that you learned windows by trying to make it do something. the same is true for linux01:53
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JoeBlowanyone had luck with this  http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4501:53
navaroneLinuturk, or you can google rutebook and dl the pdf file...it is pretty comprehensive and well written01:53
RedRoseis there a chat server, either local for users, or over the internet, other then IRC, like using standard text01:53
Linuturkpolpak, right, but I've also learned a lot by reading01:54
cafuegoRedRose: try 'ytalk'01:54
BlackoakI am trying to find out which package contains the program rpcgen, can anyone help me out?01:54
RedRosei've tryied ytalk and talk and they both don't work...01:54
ompaulcafuego, now there is something I have not used in an era01:54
echeeseWhat do linux users have for voice chat?01:54
cafuego!find rpcgen01:54
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cafuegoompaul: :-)01:55
RedRoseplus, i'm looking for something that iwll allow like 15 users to chat at one time01:55
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'rpcgen' (3 shown): (/usr/bin/rpcgen) in libdevel/libc6-dev ;; (/usr/bin/ocamlrpcgen) in universe/libdevel/librpc-ocaml-dev ;; (/usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/rpcgen.vim) in editors/vim-common.01:55
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navaroneactually...Linuturk rutebook is available tyrhu synaptic I think01:55
cafuegoRedRose: They do require a talk server to be running01:55
BlackoakIs that for breezy?01:55
cafuegoBlackoak: WIll that do?01:55
cafuegoBlackoak: yes01:55
navaronetyrhu=thru01:55
Toma-slashx1896: it'll tell you when you try to copy it01:55
slashx1896ahh i have 2 problems i cant play dvds and i cant copy/burn them.. i rather fix copy/burn since i need a dvd copied by tomorrow01:55
slashx1896how do i copy it lol01:56
Toma-echeese: cpdvd should find the css keys are decode them for you01:56
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DRAGON_Ultrause k3b01:56
Linuturkcool, thanks01:56
slashx1896shoot brb01:56
echeeseToma-: Will it burn it to another blank dvd?01:56
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Toma-k3b doesnt use css, unless you compile it yourself01:56
Toma-echeese: no, it'll make an iso, which you then copy to a dvd01:57
dueyfinsterI got xserver working I just need the command to use the backup configuration settings.01:57
BlackoakOh my that worked wonderuflly :)  I am so happy thanks everyone!!01:57
echeeseToma-: Can I make it fit on a 4.7 gb disc?01:57
Toma-echeese: is it a dual layed dvd?01:57
echeeseYes01:57
Toma-youll need to re-encode it :/01:58
Toma-use acidrip. i find its the easiest01:58
slashx1896Alrite back01:58
slashx1896Toma- so what do i use to copy the dvd to my computer so i can burn it?01:58
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JoeBlowcan someone please help me out with cvs cedega??01:58
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dueyfinsterI got xserver working I just need the command to use the backup configuration settings.01:58
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Toma-slashx1896: i use cpdvd01:59
CptShi, where can i find a wma codec?01:59
mwe!w32codecs01:59
uboturumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:59
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CptS!w32codecs01:59
ompauldueyfinster, cp the contents of your /etc/X11 off to one side - this assumes you got your drivers backed up also, or the card is part of the great supported bunch02:00
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pluffsyhello02:00
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jdongpolpak: well, some members of our forums are seeing it02:00
arais there anyway to extract a .rar file in linux?02:00
truz24ara02:00
pluffsyIs it possible to listen to realaudio on ubuntu ppc?02:00
slashx1896Toma- can i get thhat through synaptic?02:00
truz24rarlabs.com02:00
Toma-slashx1896: of course :)02:00
pluffsyWhen I used ydl there was a realplayer.rpm but I haven't been able to find something for ubuntu.02:00
cafuegopluffsy: Yep. Install helix-player (or mplayer)02:00
slashx1896:D02:00
vurdakvado caio02:00
mweara: install unrar02:00
Toma-!info cpdvd02:00
ubotucpdvd: (transfer a DVD title to your harddisk), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1.10-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 48 kB02:00
mwe!info unrar02:01
vurdaki'll go, bye bye02:01
slashx1896and does cpdvd copy the movie to my computer?02:01
pluffsycafuego, ohh those can read realaudio. great. thanks.02:01
dueyfinsterOmpaul I just need command to revert zorg cofig02:01
Toma-im using it right now actually.02:01
aramwe ok02:01
Toma-slashx1896: yep02:01
cafuegopluffsy: mplayer would need the w32codecs02:01
slashx1896kk02:01
hou5tonpolpak:  ok ... the best I can figure ... this is what I should do ... in keybinding_commands, I put "gksudo synaptic" in the key space, and then in the global_keybindings, I put Super_L in the corresponding run command.  Sound right?02:01
mweara: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree02:01
pluffsycafuego, would be kind of hard under ubuntu ppc :)02:01
pluffsybut helix will work?02:01
polpakhou5ton, if Super_L is the right key.. I'm not sure what to use for the windows key02:02
aramwe, ok02:02
cafuegopluffsy: yes, helix-player ought to work.02:02
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mweara: for rar 3.0 files you need the nonfree one02:02
slashx1896brb all02:02
ompauldueyfinster,  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /wherever02:02
hou5tonpolpak:  ya ... I went into preferences and pushed it in the keyboard shortcuts, and that is what was automatically entered.02:02
SunbugHey, help me out guys.. What pack provides build folder in /lib/modules/$kernel-version02:02
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cafuegoSunbug: kernel-headers-$(uname -r)02:03
hou5tonpolpak:  what does the "gksudo" do .... open it with my password already entered or something?02:03
dueyfinsterOmpaul done02:03
polpakhou5ton, it causes it to prompt you for the password02:03
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hou5tonpolpak:  Looks like it works like a charm ... Thanks a bunch02:04
polpakhou5ton, cool02:04
LemLapUbuntu75% done02:05
dueyfinsterOmpaul what next?02:05
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ompaulyou have it backed up02:05
mweisn't the kernel headers usually sufficient to build an external module?02:05
Sunbugcafuego: Hm. Package not found. ;\ Tested with linux-header-$version pack, but didnt get the build folder ;\02:05
ompauldueyfinster, what else do you want to do with it?02:05
dueyfinsterI want to revert to old copy02:05
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lowman62is the person that recommended crossover to me earlier in here?02:06
ompauldueyfinster, I assume you put something in here /wherever <<---02:06
dueyfinsterYes02:06
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CptS!w32codecs02:06
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:06
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navaroneduey if /etc/X11/ has an xorg.conf with a ~ or .backup that may be your previous settings...<?>02:07
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cozhello all02:07
glickhelllo02:07
glickexcuse me is there a guide somewhere on how to copy a music cd in ubuntu?02:07
ompauldueyfinster, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - if you did not make a backup I doubt it if you have one - have a look in that directory02:07
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lowman62you can get the w32codecs here ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb02:07
coz I have an application i installed, a .deb package, named "sharpconstruct" but it won't run anyone use this before?02:07
mweglick: I just use k3b. done02:08
ompaul1am I have to split02:08
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hou5tonhow can I find this captive-ntfs?02:09
lowman62well if the person who recommended crossover is here..thank you I now can use adobe photoshop in ubuntu :)02:09
Toma-!captive-ntfs02:09
ubotuToma-: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:09
Sunbugcafuego: Ah got it now. restricted pack. Thx.02:09
hou5tonlowman62:  what version?02:09
glickmwe, can it also convert mp3s to wav?02:09
oneseventeen_I'm running Breezy, and when I print from GIMP, I just get a bunch of text on my Epson stylus, but when I print a test page, I get the Ubuntu test page with colors just fine.02:09
mwecoz: you can't run a .deb file. you have to install it02:09
navaronedueyfinster, I have several backups of xorg.conf in my X11 folder...some software will make backups and may even assign dates to them if they have to change the file02:09
lowman62umm hold on i will tell you02:09
cozI already installed the .deb file but the executable will not start02:09
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lowman62pro 5.002:09
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oneseventeen_the default command the GIMP uses to print is: lp -s -dStylus-Photo-R300 -oraw  (should I change that)?02:09
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mweglick: I don't know. I think so but I don't know if you have to do anything special to make it work since mp3 is nonfree02:10
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cozThe install procedure suggested NO dependencies or errors02:10
Toma-oneseventeen_: makesure you change the part with "Postscript" to Epson02:10
glickmwe, mp3 is free now02:10
cvt|gnuyeardoes help with ubuntu include kubuntu?02:10
mweglick: no way02:10
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ataqhey, whats the command to delete through the console?02:10
glickmwe, yeah they just released it02:10
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: yep02:11
mweglick: really?02:11
glickthe company who created mp3s02:11
glickyeah02:11
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mweglick: anyway ubuntu is still treating it like nonfree which means no support by default02:11
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kemikglick:  care to provide links / info ?02:11
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glickmwe, yeah probably cause when ubuntu was released it was still nonfree02:11
dueyfinsterNavarone, any way to list and use these old config files?02:11
glickkemik, yeah sure hold up02:11
cozagain, I am trying to run an application, after having installed it.02:12
lowman62glick check this out this may help http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php02:12
oneseventeen_Toma Thanks, I'll give that a try02:12
cozit is called "sharpconstruct"02:12
cozhas onyone had experience with this applications?02:12
navaroneduetfinsteri if they are in you /etc/X11/ folder you can copy backup onto xorg.conf to replace it...but you must do it as sudo02:12
glickhttp://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html02:13
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dueyfinsterNavarone, howd I do that?02:13
cvt|gnuyearxine doesn't support exiting the app.02:13
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navaronedueyfinster, see if you have any of the backups first02:14
mweglick: that doesn't mean mp3 is free02:14
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dueyfinsterNavarone, youll need to guide me, I dunno how02:14
CanYouHelpMePlzcan anyone help me with a printer problem ?02:14
lowman62cvt|gnuyear : click the x in the corner of the viewing screen02:14
mweglick: it means they released a decoder that doesn't cost money.02:14
glickoh02:14
cvt|gnuyearlowman62, i did. it doesn't close02:14
mweglick: mp3 is still propriatry02:14
navaronedueyfinster, are you using gnome?02:14
glickmy bad then02:14
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polpakglick, http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html02:15
polpakglick, whoops02:15
dueyfinsterNavarone, yes02:15
polpakglick, http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/effects/mpeg/index.en.html02:15
lowman62cvt|gnuyear : wow that is weird..is it gXine?02:15
Toma-http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/02:15
mweglick: I guess it will disabled in ubuntu by default still02:15
cvt|gnuyearlowman62, i don't think so.02:15
cozhas anyone had experience with the application named "sharpconstruct'?02:15
lowman62cvt|gnuyear : are you using breezy?02:15
SiNHi to all... can i have litte help????02:15
cvt|gnuyearlowman62, dapper02:16
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polpakSiN, no meta questions pls. Just ask your question. If someone can answer it they will.02:16
lowman62cvt|gnuyear : ya see I use breezy so am not sure02:16
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navaronedueyfinster, okay then go to places in top menu and go down to Computer...click filesystem and then etc...then X11...you can then see if you have any other xorg.confs as backups02:16
lowman62cvt|gnuyear : try here tho may have an answer http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php02:16
SiNthnx, when i type ./configure i have "C++ compiler cannot create executables" =(02:17
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Ophiocusis there a way to "sudo" for a gnome drag and drop operation?02:17
mweSiN: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:17
polpakSiN, have you already installed build-essentials ?02:17
dueyfinsterNavarone, I can only use command line and debs on the cd02:17
polpakSiN, see mwe's post02:17
SiNno, i lame in linux02:17
navaroneduey you are using live cd?02:17
mweSiN: not to lame to type what I suggested :)02:18
polpakSiN, just go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install build-essential02:18
lowman62Ophiocus: go to Applications>System Tools>Run as different user02:18
dueyfinsterNavarone, no02:18
lowman62Ophiocus: then everything you do is root02:18
SiNok thanx again02:18
mweOphiocus: I don't know of anyway to do that02:18
Infected_enigmaHey I want to dual boot install Ubuntu onto my computer. I am using an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+. My question is that do I NEED to use the 64-bit edition, or can I use the 32-bit edition? Also if I use the 64-bit edition will it require 64-bit drivers as it would on windows 64-bit edition?02:18
navaronedueyfinster, I thought you said your were using gnome?02:19
Ophiocusi ll try what lowman62 says and report on my findings02:19
Ophiocus:)02:19
dueyfinsterNavarone, I am, xserver is broken though02:19
mweOphiocus: unless the parent process is already priviledged of course :) but in that case gksudo is not needed, so ...02:19
KindredInfected_enigma, you can use 32 if you wish, if you use 64 yes you will need 64 bit drivers02:19
Infected_enigmaokay02:19
Infected_enigmathank you kindred02:19
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cvt|gnuyearthe bad part about data dvd burners is that they don't play back in any of my dvd players02:19
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Ophiocusi get a permision denied when drag dropping a file from desktop to /02:20
mweOphiocus: yeah02:20
Ophiocusi ll sudo cp the $"%&02:20
mweOphiocus: you have to run your file manager with gksudo to do that02:20
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navaroneokay...dueyfinster...type cd /etc/X11 and press enter then type ls to list files in directory. If you have anything like xorg.conf_backup or such you are in business02:20
SiNnow all ok, but at the end i have <configure: error: "Qt library is required to compile VyQChat!">02:21
mweOphiocus: it's actually a good thing everyone can't just do that just like that02:21
Ophiocusi know02:21
cvt|gnuyearwhen i talk about burning dvd's i'm referring to burning video files to a disk that will play in any dvd player02:21
polpakSiN, what are you trying to build?02:21
cvt|gnuyearbut i suppose that's not real popular yet02:21
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mweOphiocus: anyway gksudo nautilus would be a solution. I don't think you can drop and drag gksudo. not that I know of at least02:22
SiNVyQChat - lan broadcast(workin without server) chat... on w32 named Vypress Chat02:22
navaronecvt|gnuyear, when you figure it out you'll be a Happy Gnuyear...<s>02:22
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cvt|gnuyearnavarone, right on02:22
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Toma-cvt|gnuyear: you wanna make your own dvd?02:23
cvt|gnuyearToma-, yes but not just any dvd. a dvd that will play in any dvd player02:23
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: so like, a dvd? :P02:23
dueyfinsterNavarone, I cd'd to it, how do I get it to list files?02:23
Ophiocuscan i mount a .img file ?02:23
Toma-Ophiocus: nop02:23
cvt|gnuyearToma-, no, too many ppl interpret that to mean data dvd.02:24
navaronedueyfinster, either "ls" or "dir" <-- without the quotes of course02:24
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: what format are u talking of then?02:24
MarcNOphiocus: what is an img file? An image copy of a file system, say a CD?  Then use mount -o loop file.img /mnt02:24
robertjis 230w enough for any kind of decent video card these days?02:24
cafuegoWith quotes is fine too :-)02:24
shootersIs there a way to change the way fonts on GTK 1.x (e.g. VLC), gtk-theme-switch creates a .gtkrc, but doesn't take effect...02:24
robertjI'm looking at a 2.8 gig p4 with a 230w PSU02:24
dueyfinsterNavarone I have got four xorg confs02:24
SunbugHow can i se whats packs are installed?02:25
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cafuegorobertj: Not for that Voodoo8 or whatever they had a year or two ago.02:25
navaronedueyfinster, what are their names?02:25
Kindredrobertj: that's kinda low..02:25
cvt|gnuyearToma-, the format that plays in all dvd players where video appears on the screen.02:25
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: thats a data disk...02:25
cafuegorobertj: But 230W ought to be ok for cpu+gfx+1hdd+dvdrw02:25
MarcNSunbug: synaptic is a gui to show you, or use the command like dpkg --list02:25
cafuegorobertj: I wouldn't recommend adding much in the way of additional drives, though.02:25
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cvt|gnuyearToma-, data disks do not play in a single player i've ever seen.02:26
SiNlast error <checking for Qt... ls: /lib/libqt*: No such file or directory>02:26
cafuegorobertj: Or buy components and build yourself a machine. probably ends up being cheaper & better.02:26
robertjcaf: I bet not02:26
robertjcrap computer02:26
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MarcNSunbug: dpkg --list|grep ^ii will show what is currently installed.  apt-cache search SOMETHING will search all available packages and tell you what matches.02:26
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: youre saying, a dvd in the format of /audio_ts /video_ts isnt a valid dvd?02:26
robertj2.8 gig p4/1gig/160gb DVD $301 after S&H02:26
Toma-because thats a data disk02:26
dueyfinsterNavarone, I cant type much, I am on a pda,  it starts with  20060106234502:27
cafuegorobertj: That's prolly have a SiS mobo02:27
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ale3hshelo, does anyone know if there is a minilyric plugin for xmms or another linux player?02:27
robertjcafuego: it's a Dell02:27
robertjso I dunno what they use these days02:27
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cafuegorobertj: AVOID!!!!!!!!02:27
robertjand really the only thing I'm vaugely interested in is the onboard video02:27
robertjcafuego: Dells are "fine"02:27
robertj301.23 goes a long way02:27
navaronedueyfinster, are you running ubuntu on a pda or just connected here now on one?02:27
MarcNcafuego: there is no accounting for taste ;-)02:27
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robertjcaf: if I add another HD & it's not spinning up, I would assume passive power draw is negligible?02:28
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dueyfinsterNavarone, no I got pc in front of me02:28
cvt|gnuyearToma-, i don't know. all i know is that data disks just store files and don't support playback in dvd players.02:28
cafuegorobertj: if it runs low on available power it will crash, it won't just not spin up.02:28
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Toma-cvt|gnuyear: dvd's are just a bunch of vobs (a form of mpeg) stored on a disk. what you reeeeally need, is the correct format of data, and the right directory tree02:29
cvt|gnuyearToma-, i get dvds at the store that play video on the screen. no such burning app i've installed has been able to burn a disk that plays the video.02:29
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: are you just putting an avi or mpeg straight onto a dvd?02:29
robertjcaf: that I understand but I was just thinking I'd put this spare 40 in there just for a nightly backup02:29
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dueyfinsterNavarone, how would I use one of the backups02:30
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cvt|gnuyearToma-, yes02:30
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: i see. you need to 'master' the dvd video first, eg, encode it to a decent format for the dvd player, and give it a directory tree to read it all in.02:30
navaroneokay dueyfinster sudo cp /etc/X11/<backupname> /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:30
cafuegorobertj: Well.. try and see how you go...02:30
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: you can do it all with qdvdauthor or something similar02:31
robertjI can always dump that if I need to02:31
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dueyfinsterNavarone, I will try reboot to see if it works02:32
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navaronedueyfinster,  ok02:32
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copyoulateranyone know where i can download the default ubuntu cursors without downloading a whole cd image02:33
navaronecopyoulater, no idea...but nice nice all the same02:34
copyoulateri really like them02:34
navaronenice nick rather02:34
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copyoulaterok02:34
apollo2011I had OpenOffice.org2.0 on an old Ubuntu installation, and now I installed it on a new Kubuntu installation and when I create a new database, none of the wizards open...02:35
copyoulaterapollo2011 they must be out of mana02:35
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dilemalo02:36
apollo2011lol02:36
dilemaanyone know hwo to give root a real login?02:36
dilemainstead of sudo su/sudo02:36
cvt|gnuyearToma-, doesn't support any video file i have: .avi, .wmv, .mpg, .mov, .bin, etc.02:36
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copyoulaterdilema it is in the wiki or faq i think02:36
dilemaill giver her a looksy02:37
ILikeLinuxcvt|gnuyear: use mplayer02:37
nics__sudo passwd root - will assign a password to root and allow you to login in02:37
copyoulateryou do that02:37
cvt|gnuyearILikeLinux, does it author dvd's?02:37
cvt|gnuyearburn dvd's02:37
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Toma-cvt|gnuyear: it'll definitly support mpg02:37
copyoulaterdvd's are a thing of the past02:38
cvt|gnuyearToma-, not for me02:38
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: have you got transcode installed?02:38
cvt|gnuyeari don't know yet02:39
cvt|gnuyearlooking...02:39
Toma-also cvt|gnuyear, have you got the QXineWidget enabled?02:39
footdilema, look in your /etc/sudoers file too02:39
vbgunzanybody here use revelation, the passcard program? If so, How in the world do you apply the Revelation panel applet?02:39
jahshua--hi can anyone tell me the terminal command to update system and to update all packages?02:39
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jahshua--please02:39
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jahshua--sudo apt-get install update ?02:39
dilemaaight02:40
nics__apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade02:40
MarcNjahshua--: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade02:40
footsudo apt-get upgrade02:40
dilemathank you02:40
jahshua--ok cool02:40
jahshua--thanks02:40
footdont do it marcN's way,02:40
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foot&& won't wait until update is finished02:40
MarcNfoot: why not?02:40
cvt|gnuyearToma-, i'm installing transcode now. couldn't find qxinewidget yet02:40
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foot&& runs em simultaneously02:41
jahshua--MarcN: how often is it recommended to run those two commands02:41
MarcNfoot: yes it does.  && checks the status of the frist.02:41
jahshua--ahhh too late hehe02:41
MarcNfoot: you are wrong.02:41
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: its inside the qdvdauthor settings part02:41
footdammit02:41
jahshua--i did em one by one02:41
footfoiled again.02:41
copyoulateris it true that ubuntu is for people that don't know how to use debian?02:41
MarcNfoot: you are thinking;   sudo apt-get update & ; sudo apt-get upgrade02:41
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kemikcopyoulater:  funny ;)02:41
fortyozcopyoulater, its debian for the desktop.02:41
cafuegocopyoulater: it's true that trolling isn't appreciated here.02:41
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BeOS_MrXhey I have problems with my sound, there is no one on mandriva right now who know how to help properly, wondering if its something ubuntu users could try. i am using kde and manriva 200602:42
fortyozdebian lacks a lot of the addons ubuntu has02:42
footgotcha.  i didnt know that marcN :/02:42
copyoulateroh is debian supposed to be installed on palmpilots normally or something?02:42
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fortyozi use debian on my servers ubuntu on desktops02:42
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cvt|gnuyearToma-, yes it is set on qxinewidget02:42
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: the qdvdauthor webpage has a few helpful howtos >>> http://qdvdauthor.sourceforge.net/02:42
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bobbyhow does one get the extra mplayer codecs for ubuntu?02:42
PuMpErNiCkElhm02:42
Toma-cvt|gnuyear: cool. just add movie then ;D and make a menu02:42
joey222guys have a look ere: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1590596277/qid=1136511695/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/202-1163722-086461402:42
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bobbyis there a repo for it ...or does it have to be compiled in?02:42
copyoulateri heard mandrake is better than ubuntu02:42
fortyozcopyoulater, try them both02:43
kemik!tell bobby about restricted02:43
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jahshua--how often is it recommended to run those two commands02:43
cafuego!troll02:43
ubotucafuego: I give up, what is it?02:43
fortyozand decide.02:43
joey222ubuntu book coming in March02:43
PuMpErNiCkElcopyoulater: ask in #mandrake02:43
bobbycopyoulater, you heard wrong....long time user of both and ubuntu beats mdk any day :P02:43
cvt|gnuyearToma-, i'll get to reading and give it my best. that gives me a new direction. thx02:43
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Toma-copyoulater: trolls belong under bridges. not in chat rooms :D02:43
Knorriecopyoulater: stop that02:43
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Toma-cvt|gnuyear: no problem :)02:43
copyoulaterwhat is troll02:43
athlonin konqueror, pressing ctrl-l to switch focus to address bar also clears it. How do I change that so it will keep the existing address ?02:43
bobby!FreeFormats02:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats02:43
PuMpErNiCkElcopyoulater: You, right now. :)02:43
kemikdont feed the troll02:43
copyoulaterok02:43
jahshua--how often is it recommended to run those two commands??02:43
copyoulaterwhy do people still use fedora and especially why do people still use rpms shudder02:44
kemikbobby:  you want the restricted formats ;)02:44
Toma-copyoulater: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll02:44
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Toma-copyoulater: i use rpms. in a debian system :O02:44
cafuegojahshua--: update-daemon will automagically run that every morning and tell you if updates are available.02:44
bobbykemik, I know...dling it now, just checking out which ones have free equivs :d02:44
bobby:d02:44
copyoulaterrpms are hideous02:44
bobbyRPM is uber oldschool02:44
kemikaight ;)02:44
copyoulaterautomagically is such a great word02:44
bobbyno one should use it :|02:44
BeOS_MrXrpms are easy, they are like .pkg for beos except rmps aren't as good02:45
Toma-copyoulater: thats your opinion. opinions are no help in chatrooms, imho.02:45
BeOS_MrXits linux's try at an 'easy installer'02:45
ethanHi. Why would XSANE not that an recognize an (admittedly quite old) scanner that is supported and has the backend supposedly loaded?02:45
navaronelol Toma-02:45
Toma-BeOS_MrX: whens the last time a beos update came out? :D02:45
jahshua--do i have to reboot after updating and upgrading  ?02:45
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PuMpErNiCkEljahshua--: Only if it tells you to.02:45
kemikjahshua--:  generally no, depends on what you upgraded/updated02:45
copyoulateri like ubuntu because it is so automagic02:45
CanYouHelpMePlzanyone here run linux on ipod nano?02:45
Knorriejahshua--: only if your kernel gets upgraded02:46
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BeOS_MrXToma-: actually I just ordered yellowtab.com zeta and, an update came last month02:46
jahshua--and how is the kernel upgraded?02:46
jahshua--i have been wondering that02:46
Toma-ahh i tried zeta. it was pretty sxc.02:46
PuMpErNiCkEljahshua--: Through apt-get... it downloads a new one, adds the entry to grub, yadda yadda yadda and next time you reboot, it defaults to the new one.02:47
jahshua--ok02:47
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jahshua--so how do i know when to upgrade the kernel02:47
Kindredautomagic again02:47
PuMpErNiCkEljahshua--: If it shows up in your list of updates. :)02:47
navaronejahshua--, and you can uninstall older kernels as well to free up space...and entries are removed from grub menu as well02:47
jahshua--ahh cool02:47
jahshua--ok thanks everyone02:48
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Toma-BeOS_MrX: so what brings you to ubuntu? :)02:49
BeOS_MrXits cool because its trying to make linux work for people who use beos and windows and mac02:49
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BeOS_MrXthings that mac sense and you can figure out without reading a manual02:49
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amiliahello02:50
Toma-i see02:50
amiliai need help02:50
fortyozheh i remember using beos on my old powermac02:50
navaronehello amilia02:50
fortyozwhen i was like 13 :P02:50
amiliaim a newbie02:50
jahshua--arent we all02:50
jahshua--hehe02:50
navaroneamilia...that's okay...we don't bite...much...lol02:50
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amiliahehe02:50
Toma-i think BeOS is the BEST platform for audio production. if i had a recording studio, id seriously consider beos over Mac's02:50
fortyozToma-, .. there aren't any decent apps though02:51
amiliai want to load my mp3s02:51
Toma-fortyoz: oh yes there is02:51
amiliaim keeping my winxp02:51
SweetestSavageAnyone know of any desktop recording software? Something that records the desktop (IE, something like Fraps (http://www.fraps.com/)) for linux?02:51
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amiliai mean how to mount my hda02:51
AlvarockHello everybody02:51
BeOS_MrXToma-: , except its only good in principle02:52
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ethan Can someone help me figure out why XSANE is not finding a scanner?02:52
fortyozamilia, screwdriver and a saddle02:52
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Toma-BeOS_MrX: how so?02:52
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BeOS_MrXnot practise, because all the 'useable' apps are either expensive things for single purpose or abandonware that you will never get the full version because its a gay demo02:52
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bimberiSweetestSavage: istanbul (i've not used it though)02:53
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SweetestSavagebimberi, thank you02:53
Toma-BeOS_MrX: you can port stuff to beos relatively easily tho, iirc02:53
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with a printer problem?02:53
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bimberiSweetestSavage: np :)02:53
footethan, maybe.  what kind of scanner02:53
BeOS_MrXlike tunetracker, its really good example on what beos can do, but its very limited users, you know what I mean ?02:53
ethanUMAX Powerlook II02:54
BeOS_MrXi mean, an app that makes 'sense' like that editing thing, the opensource one would be killer if on beos02:54
Toma-yeh02:54
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BeOS_MrXexcept, you try and go on bebits.com and get a sound editor that's gonna cut some tracks up, well you're gonna be dissapointed02:55
LemLapUbuntuBeOs is an awesome os. just wan't ver successful02:55
MarcNfoot: I'm back.  The nice thing about && is it only does the next command if the first one succeeded.  For example I want to create an iso from a directory and then delete the directory, but only if creating the iso worked.  So, I use mkisof -ofoo.iso somedir && rm -rf somedir   Nice and safe.02:55
LemLapUbuntubecause it came befoer the whole linux puxh02:55
footethan, you seen this: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html02:56
BeOS_MrXnot only are you not going to find one that works or the link is working, but if it does actually do half-assed thing even close it will again be demoware02:56
BeOS_MrXand, ofcourse the link wont work and you'll never find it02:56
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ethanYes, it is supported.02:56
user__Navarone, you still here?02:57
footor, ethan. more specifically: http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-umax.5.html02:57
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footMarcN, thanks, i didnt know that02:57
MarcNfoot: you learn stuff after 20 years of hacking ;-)02:57
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footor, quickly in IRC :)02:58
BeOS_MrXbut, good thien Toma- , I got zeta02:59
BeOS_MrXi mean, don't have it right now but i will be getting it in the mail this week. comes bundled with everything cool i want , that normal beos will never get02:59
Toma-BeOS_MrX: i only tried the beta :D (zeta beta!:O)02:59
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BeOS_MrXhmm well i got this funny thing, buys RC1 with v1.0 upgrade CD, then go update to 1.1 :// kindof funky but I get cheaper to buy :/03:00
nics__also command1 || command2 will only execute command2 if command1 fails03:00
nics__&& is AND, || is OR03:01
Toma-weird03:01
BeOS_MrXbut you know if I would of known about Kubuntu it would be on this comp instead of mandriva right now03:01
Toma-thanks for that nics__03:01
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nics__:-) nice to be able to answer one03:02
BeOS_MrXthe ubuntu is something linux was without for far too long!03:02
Toma-BeOS_MrX: its all the same ...sort of.03:02
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ethanFoot: I don't understand where the sane-umax library is. Synaptic Packet Manager doesn't find it.03:03
Slittle problem again.... when i type "./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3" i have: "checking correct functioning of Qt installation... failure"03:03
cafuegoethan: in /etc/sane.d/ probably.03:03
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SweetestSavagebimberi, hmm.. it works and all.. but it doesnt seem to work for applications. Is there anything else?03:04
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SweetestSavagebimberi, or perhaps you know of a good webcam recording software?03:04
meepyHow do I get a trashcan on the desktop? :P I can't to see to have  working on you can right click on and emtpy it? Thanks03:04
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Toma-SweetestSavage: xawtv03:04
SweetestSavageToma-, thanks I'll have a look03:05
ethanSorry for being an idiot, but is that /etc folder on my hd already?03:05
SweetestSavageToma-, that's for webcams?03:05
Toma-SweetestSavage: its for video devices. itll work with a webcam03:06
Toma-ethan: yes03:06
SweetestSavageToma-, okay, thank you03:06
Kindredmeepy, through the configuration editor - Applications - System Tools - Configuration Editor03:06
nics__meepy gconf, apps->nautilus->desktop there are checkboxes03:06
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ethanFound the document umax.conf. Do I copy and paste that into terminal?03:07
khermansAnyone know what the maximum number of players in a hockey penalty box is?  I am arguing with someone that it is 3!03:07
KindredStill haven't figured out how to get my win partition off the desktop though.03:07
Linuturkcan anyone seed the dapper amd 64 live torrent please?03:07
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meepyThanks!03:08
meepyNever knew about that03:08
meepyGOing to play in there >:)03:08
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Linfanguinis there any scripts for ryhtmbox to show album cover or stuff like that03:09
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ethanThe only things in the sane.d folder are text documents...03:10
PuMpErNiCkElkhermans: My sister says it's two.03:11
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ethanNone are sane-umax or are called umax library or anything.03:12
bimberiSweetestSavage: sorry, i only know of istanbul :/03:12
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soci0pathpenalty box Q.. you can have as many inthe box as have received penalties, but youare only penalised 2 people off max03:13
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nics__Kindred - same place in gconf, uncheck Volumes Visible03:13
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SweetestSavageQuestion - My webcam is no longer being detected, yet it worked fine yesterday. Any ideas?03:13
Kindrednics__, yeah but that does usb drives, cd's etc, I want those03:14
nics__ahhh oh well :-)03:14
alphyI'm trying to burn an audio disk and I can't get any files to show up as added.  I'm using Serpentine.03:14
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Kindrednics_ yeah I think I can put up with it if I must :P03:15
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ToranHow can I play DRM-protected WMA files in ubuntu?03:15
blueandwhiteg3How can I determine the status of OpenGL on my Ubuntu system?03:15
nics__intrigued now as to how nautilus decides what to show03:16
ToranBetter yet, how can I strip out the WMA so I can transfer it to my portable, which doesn't support DRM?03:16
blueandwhiteg3Toran: I don't think there is any legal way in the countries with DMCA-like laws...03:16
UnknownPgblueandwhite do you want to know like the graphics and such?03:16
Linfanguinwhere can i download rythmbox themes?03:16
ToranI live on an island.03:16
ToranMy own island.03:16
sampanlol toran03:16
blueandwhiteg3Toran: Can I come and visit?03:16
alphyI need a good audio cd burning program,  any ideas?03:16
CanYouHelpMePlzToran: better to say, i live on a boat in international water.03:16
ToranIf you tell me how to strip DRM out of WMA files ;-)03:16
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Kindredblueandwhiteg3: glxinfo, I think03:16
CanYouHelpMePlzToran: convert it to mp303:16
Toranalphy: k3b03:16
cosmo_can some one tell me why im getting this eror root@ubuntu:/home/cosmo# ./ati.run03:17
cosmo_-bash: ./ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run: Permission denied03:17
alphytoran, where do I get that?03:17
CanYouHelpMePlzcosmo_: chmox +x to the file03:17
BeOS_MrXnew app just release: kommunism for kubuntu. plays protected wma and wmv9 formats03:17
Toranalphy: apt-get install k3b03:17
UnknownPgcosmo03:17
PuMpErNiCkElcosmo_: run 'chmod +x' on the .run file03:17
UnknownPgyou can su03:17
ToranCanYouHelpMePlz: Hmm, can I convert it to a .wav?03:17
UnknownPgand then try03:17
cosmo_thanks03:17
blueandwhiteg3Toran: You're going to be in for a good time with DRM. It's always a bit of a mess...03:17
CanYouHelpMePlzToran: sure03:17
ToranWith what prograM?03:18
UnknownPgblueandwhite if you are using a ati driver then you can do fglrxinfo03:18
CanYouHelpMePlzToran: uhh sudo apt-cache search audio convert03:18
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nics__Kindred: change the fstab entry and don't mount them in /media, seems to work for me03:18
cosmo_root@ubuntu:/home/cosmo# chmox +x ./ati.run03:18
cosmo_-bash: chmox: command not found03:18
blueandwhiteg3Toran: One easy route is to play it under another compatible arrangement and capture the audio samples.03:18
ethanAny thoughts on where to find the sane-umax library?03:19
CanYouHelpMePlzcosmo_: sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run03:19
Kindrednics__ hm, I mounted it in /mnt and it was still there, maybe i'll try somewhere else.. or something, thanks though03:19
blueandwhiteg3UnknownPg: glxinfo does not give anything but the name of the display03:19
footethan, try 'locate umax'03:20
footyou may already have it03:20
blueandwhiteg3UnknownPg: I have an Intel GMA 900... which should in theory support OpenGL and XvMC03:20
UnknownPgyea03:20
nics__Kindred: did you reboot? just did that on mine I get my D drive on desktop but not C which is mounted in /mnt, I am using Dapper Drake though, not sure if that makes a difference03:20
footif its usb, usbview might help you check if its plugged in, or 'cat /proc/usb'03:20
blueandwhiteg3I have even reviewed the source code to verify XvMC support.03:20
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bimberiethan: do a contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com03:21
Kindredyeah sure did, I might have another go later, it's not a huge issue I just like to complain about it03:21
LightShearhey everyone I have a server question03:21
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nics__lol I know the feeling, the problem I start to fixate on it :-)03:21
blueandwhiteg3oooops, client died03:22
cosmo_ did this install it or what did it do cosmo_: sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run03:22
blueandwhiteg3Ultimately, I am trying to accelerate VLC because I can only get x11 video output working, and I know OpenGL would allow me to hand off the colorspace (YUV->RGB) conversion to the GPU.03:22
LightShearnot sure how to word it, actually, but I installed server without being connected to the net. How do I get it to connect now?03:23
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LightShearor cant it?03:23
cosmo_it dosent say anything after i do this03:23
blueandwhiteg3I believe that "XVideo extension video output" under VLC would even enable XvMC, among other things, to hand off the MPEG motion compensation to the GPU.03:23
madmaxdoes anybody use mplayer?03:23
blueandwhiteg3However, I am not sure how to even determine the status of OpenGL under Ubuntu at the moment!03:23
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BeOS_MrXsound in opera won't work HELP03:24
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ethanAlright, it's in usr/lib/sane... so why is't SANE finding the scanner?03:24
cosmo_thanks for the help it works03:25
cosmo_sorry for stupid questions03:25
alphywhy is k3b telling me .mp3 is an unsupported format?03:25
psusibecause it is03:25
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alphypsusi, you talking to me?03:25
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psusialphy, yea03:26
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alphypsusi, so how do I burn mp3s as an audio disk?03:26
sampan!info k3b-mp303:26
ubotuk3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 92 kB03:26
psusiconvert them to wav03:26
sampanalphy, install that k3b-mp3 package in universe?03:26
BeOS_MrXsound in opera won't work HELP03:27
alphysampan, no, let me try that03:27
ethanIt's not a USB connection, it's this ridiculous old 25-pin I-forget-what-they're called03:27
sampani haven't burned an mp3 disk in k3b yet, but i did install that package a while back ... ymmv03:27
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jason_hey gang, i'm new to linux, setup ubuntu a couple days ago, installed apache, mysql, php, and wordpress, and had everything up and running fine last night, but after i restarted ubuntu this morning and went to my wordpress site it was unable to connect to the db, i'm guessing mysql isn't set to autostart with bootup, and the directions on mysql's site didn't work for me, any help?03:28
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Kindredjason_, check System - Administration - Services03:29
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criminalhey ppl, anyone here that can advise me on a good p2p prog and how to install it03:30
BeOS_MrXcriminal: - I use limewire and it works great on linux03:30
BeOS_MrXexcept that the playing music on it doesnt work with me03:30
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BeOS_MrXbut,its main focus is to download03:31
criminali know03:31
criminali used limewire on windows alor03:31
criminal*alot03:31
criminalbut i can't get it to work on ubuntu03:31
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criminali converted the file from .rpm to .deb using alien, installed and it still doesn't work03:31
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Kindred!limewire03:32
ubotuwell, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.03:32
sampanVoila!03:32
jason_kindred, i'm running xfce cause i was having way too many stability problems with gnome, i don't see administration under system, or services03:33
criminaljava or java runtime ??03:33
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mojo56can anyone tell me how to find out what I need to put into my /etc/modules file so that the sound module boots up properly so I can turn off hotplug?03:33
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Kindredjason_, ah ok03:33
jason_i found system monitor, and i shows mysqld and mysqld_safe sleeping03:34
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LemLapUbuntuok got a new problem03:35
LemLapUbuntuseems to have hung03:35
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LemLapUbuntusetting up libsrvg2-common03:35
cyphasehas anyone used http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 to set up a server?03:35
UbuntuRobWhat is the best linux backup Utility???03:35
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mojo56cyphase, why not use Nubuntu?03:36
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ethanSo any ideas on how to help sane find my scanner?03:36
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mweUbuntuRob: tar, probably03:36
MasterTsunamiwhy would you use nubuntu :/03:36
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UbuntuRobtar?03:36
cyphasemojo56, nUbuntu is a network admin tool03:36
Neurosisany programs out there so i can get into my cable modem settings via linux?03:37
cyphaseto detect breaches and stuff03:37
mweUbuntuRob: yes.03:37
mojo56oops, I misunderstoon that :)03:37
cyphase"nUbuntu is a collection of network and server security testing tools, piled on top of the existing Ubuntu system. While aimed to be mainly a security testing platform, nUbuntu also operates as a desktop enviroment for the advanced linux user."03:37
cyphaseoh03:37
UbuntuRobok. i'll check it out. Thanks!!03:37
MasterTsunamii mean why did they make nubuntu? what makes ubuntu better to make a security live cd platform than slax or knoppix :/03:37
cyphaseso has anyone used http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 ?03:38
Kindredethan, what is your scanner? ..03:38
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jason_so, wordpress worked fine lastnight connecting to my blog db in mysql, but after i restarted it longer can connect, I thought mysql wasn't set to autostart but mysqld and mysqld_safe are in my process list, i'm not sure what to do now03:38
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mwecyphase: I would strongly recommend not to use the same alias for two ip addresses03:39
jason_no longer*03:39
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mwecyphase: the dude suggests that03:39
pramzjason_: can you connect to the MySQL Server using the blog's credentials ?03:39
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ethanUMAX PowerLook II. Library is there.03:39
cyphasemwe, i know03:40
mwecyphase: also why would he set a root password03:40
cyphasebut other then that..03:40
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GenneXis there a way to use sudo apt-get to install a p2p program ??03:40
mwecyphase: I don't like that either in ubuntu03:40
jason_i can try, im just not sure how to do that at the command line03:40
mwecyphase: just use sudo -i to get a root prompt03:40
cyphasemwe, i know :)03:40
cyphasebut i mean in general03:40
pramzjason_: mysql -u <username> <database> -p03:40
pramzthat will bring up a password prompt03:40
mojo56anyone?  enabling sound in /etc/modules?03:41
pramzso for example : mysql -u wpuser wpdb -p03:41
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jason_k, thanks, lemme try that now03:41
Adrossthere is something wrong with my samba install. Firstly, it doesn't start up at boot up, and now, when i try to start it up manually via '/etc/init.d/samba start' i get '/usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found03:41
Adross/etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 10294 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D03:41
Adross                                                                         [fail] 03:41
Adross'03:41
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mwecyphase: I think it lacks explanations of what's going on03:41
pramzAdross: type testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf03:42
jason_access denied for user 'wordpress@localhost" (using password: yes)03:42
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Adrosspramz: I now have a dump of my configurations03:42
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pramzdoes it show any errors ?03:42
Adrossnone are listed03:43
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cyphasemwe, have you used the guide?03:43
pramzalso you are starting it under root or using sudo right ?03:43
jason_"Error 1045: Access denied for user: 'wordpress@localhost' (Using password: YES)"03:43
mwecyphase: no. I just went over it quickly03:43
jason_oh no, i guess that's why, lemme use sudo =\03:43
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Adrosspramz: uh...that was a test...you passed...03:44
cyphaseah03:44
Adrosspramz: man i feel dumb, thanks heaps03:44
pramzAdross: heh man no worries :)03:44
GenneXanyone here used kpackage before ??03:44
Adrossodd, it's still not working though03:44
pramzjason_: doesnt have to be used under sudo03:44
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Adrossah, got it03:45
Adrossanyhoo, cheerio03:45
Adrossthanks heaps03:45
heatxsinkanyone in here have a saa7134 card?03:45
heatxsinktv card*03:45
mwecyphase: I don't like instructions that don't explain what they do. also he seems to forget the very important step of installing mysql, to set the root password. it seems like he just expects it to be set already after apt-get install mysql-server03:45
pixelfairy`Suggests' field, invalid package name `openoffic@': character `@' not allowed - only letters, digits and -+._ allowed03:45
chris_I have an ati radeon 9250 card which was previously recognized on ubuntu 64 bit edition now on regular i386 install it will not recognize card. Can someone help03:45
pixelfairyanyone else get that?03:45
jason_ok, but i just tried it and this time it wouldn't accept my password, i'm gonna log into mysql as root and change my wordpress user password03:46
cyphasereiserfs in breezy supports quota, right?03:46
cyphasechris_, i've tried that card03:46
mwecyphase: yes03:46
cyphaseit's not working03:46
chris_no it's not03:46
chris_it did in the 64 bit version of ubuntu though03:46
cyphasehmm03:47
mojo56fine... anyone know how I can find out which module ubuntu loaded for my sound?03:47
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mwemojo56: lsmod03:47
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mwemojo56: or lsmod|grep snd03:47
mojo56many thanks :) now to sort through all of thaty03:48
cafuegohow peculair03:48
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mojo56does snd_intel8x0 seems like the one that I need to add to /etc/modules?03:49
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jason_well, now that's weird...03:49
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GenneXanyone here that can awnser a few questions for me about ubuntu installation and removing of packages03:50
jason_i reset the password to the same thing it was before, then i entered "flush privileges;" and reloaded my blog and it came right up03:50
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LoneWolf071what's the banner file name for SSHD?03:50
LoneWolf071not the one when you connect, but when you login03:50
jason_what does flush privileges do magically, and would i have to do this all the time now after restarting03:50
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aTypicalHello03:51
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mwejason_: you should not have to do it each time you start03:51
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jason_ok, i'm going to reboot and see if wordpress can connect now without any command intervention, thanks for your help, you guys are great03:52
LoneWolf071what's the banner file name for SSHD, not the one when you connect, but when you login03:52
mweLoneWolf071: you just asked that03:53
chris_anyone know where cyphase went off to or is he a real person?03:53
LoneWolf071just reasking it for those who just joined or were away03:53
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mweLoneWolf071: isn't it the shell that's responsible for what you're looking for?03:54
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heatxsinkwhere would I go to find possible kernel parameters to pass to the kernel via grub?03:55
bshumateactually it is login(1) that is responsible, if it's /etc/motd which is being referred to...03:55
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aTypicalheatxsink, I've found it's not so easy to find them.  Google is fairly good, though.03:55
LoneWolf071mwe, ??? well yes, but there's a blurb usually displayed about who loged in and when when you login, and iwould like the change that to a warning...03:56
mweheatxsink: google, forums. what do you need?03:56
cyphasechris_, i'm not a bot :)03:56
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heatxsinkI think a kernel module is not getting an irq or something03:56
cyphasealthough i'm working on one :P03:56
heatxsinkI think a kernel module is not getting an irq or something, so i think I need to pass noirq to the kernel03:56
cyphaseoh, he left03:57
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GenneXok who has a p2p program instaalled ??03:57
mweLoneWolf071: well I don't know. I would read the documentation. that's a good idea anyway if you intend to run a server03:57
Chris_Tuckerdozens of them GenneX03:58
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GenneXcan you maby give me some help please03:58
mwe!helpme03:58
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.03:58
BeOS_MrXi can't save this file, no write permissions, what do i need to 'tweak' to save it right now. i use Kwrite03:59
GenneXwhich would would be the most suitable to install, for your typical windows user, seeing that I only recently switched from windows to linux04:00
poningruGenneX: whats wrong?04:00
poningruas in for what p2p purpose?04:00
poningruthere are many networks04:01
poningrulimewire, torrent, etc.04:01
mweGenneX: which what would be most suitable? distro?04:01
GenneXok04:01
poningruwhich network do you use?04:01
GenneXdistro = ubuntu04:01
poningruthere are application for each of them04:01
GenneXi normally used limewire with windows04:01
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GenneXwent downloaded the .rpm, converted it to .deb with alien04:02
mweGenneX: limewire. is that gnutella?04:02
heatxsinkmwe:  so basically I have this tvcard that wants IRQ 1904:02
poningruGenneX: use gnutella04:02
heatxsinkand for some reason it keeps getting disabled04:02
GenneXinstalled using sudo, but it still doesn't work. i think so mwe04:02
bimberi!limewire04:02
uboturumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.04:02
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benplauthow do i make a module be loaded at boot?04:02
poningruGenneX: you dont need to do that04:03
GenneX?04:03
mwebenplaut: put the name in /etc/modutils/04:03
mwebenplaut: err04:03
bimberibenplaut: put it in /etc/modules04:03
mwebenplaut: /etc/modules04:03
benplautthanks04:03
mwebenplaut: typo, sorry04:03
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poningruGenneX: you can install mldonkey04:04
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joustonMoring04:04
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GenneXponingru: can that be done using sudo apt-get ?04:04
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poningruGenneX: yes04:04
benplautanyone know of a good, feature-full non mode text editor with similar commands, etc to nano/pico?04:05
sagarpi installed unreal 2004, and the fx are weird...polygons randomly disappear and stuff...does any one know how i can fix it? i'm using the latest nvidia drivers04:05
mweheatxsink: I would google solving irq conflicts in linux. you can pass some parameters at boot bot I don't remember them right now. I haven't had the need in 5 years or so04:05
GenneXponingru: E: Invalid operation mldonkey04:05
poningruGenneX:  thats cause its mldonkey-gui04:05
poningruGenneX: dude just use synaptic04:05
joustonI heard that Mark Shuttleman and Malcolm Yates will go Asia. Any tips?04:05
GenneXponingru: thank you, found it04:06
poningrujouston: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/19304:07
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joustonponingru: Thank you, I've read this mail.04:07
binohi all04:07
GenneXponingru: hopefully the last question, how would I go about making a shortcut for it ?04:07
poningrujouston: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AsiaBusinessTour04:07
binoi need some help for install modem on compaq presario 280004:08
poningruGenneX: shortcut for what?04:08
joustonponingru: But I wish to chat with Malcolm or Mark online.04:08
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LemLapLinIT BOOTED !!!!!04:08
LemLapLin'wooooottttt04:08
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GenneXponingru: mldonkey, as i just installed with Synaptic and it isn't under applications04:08
binohello04:08
joustonI'm try to arrange their tour will at least meet two LUG in Taipei04:08
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poningrujouston: mark@canonical.com04:09
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poningruGenneX: oh hmm04:09
_tccI need cpan.04:09
_tccI installed the ubuntu server04:09
poningruGenneX: it should be under internet04:09
joustonponingru: Thanks. Have you see them on irc before?04:09
_tccand I don't have CPAN04:09
_tccwhat is up with this?04:09
binocan i get some link to install modem on presario 280004:09
poningrujouston: yeah they generally hang out in #ubuntu-devel04:10
poningruoops04:10
Kodiak-LNXDoes anyone know which packages I need to configure srvx? I have gcc & make...04:10
_tccHow can I get cpan?04:10
GenneXponingru: just rechecked, it is unfortunately not there04:10
mweponingru: isn't it sometimes not there until next login?04:10
joustonponingru: Thank you. I'll try to reach them there.04:10
poningruGenneX: yeah you usually have to restart the menus04:10
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poningruor log out and log in04:10
GenneXponingru: will check quickly04:10
_tccHow can I get cpan?04:11
poningruGenneX: just open up a terminal and type mldonkey04:11
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_tccHow can I get cpan?04:11
Linfanguinman mplayer sucks-im stream funny videos of a website to watch with mplayer i get a little screen and i cant fast forward-when iselect a scene it plays from the beggining anywa to fix all this annoying issues?04:11
mwe_tcc: don't repeat04:11
mwe_tcc: don't repeat04:11
mwe_tcc: don't repeat04:11
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GenneXponingru: thank you, also it is mlgui =) you have been alot of help, thx04:11
poningrudoh04:12
poningruhehe np04:12
poningruLinfanguin: vlc04:12
binoplease guysss help me04:12
poningruLinfanguin: or totem04:12
poningrubinarydigit: hold on04:12
poningruerr bino04:12
jouston_tcc: perl -MCPAN -e shell04:12
Linfanguincan i do sudo apt-get install vlc?04:12
mwe_tcc: what do you mean get cpan? you can install perl stuff of cpan, not get cpan04:12
binoponingru can u help me my modem doesnt work04:13
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poningrubino: yeah looking it up04:13
_tccThats what I did.04:13
Linfanguini have totem but how do i make it my primary stream player when i use firefox?04:13
LemLapLinis there anyway to further lower the mouse sensitivity04:13
_tccThis things perl isnt even up to date04:13
_tccwtf04:13
_tccis with that04:13
LemLapLinit's a whee bit too high for my trackball04:13
mwe_tcc: what?04:13
binomy notebook presario 280004:13
_tccnvm not a big deal04:14
Linfanguini tried to open the url on totem but it says the server refused the connection04:14
_tccapt-get is convienient so I won't complain04:14
_tcclol04:14
joustonbino: http://tuxmobil.org/modem_ci10140.html04:14
binoponingru04:14
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binoill check jouston04:14
joustonbino: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/presario-2800.html04:14
joustonbino: ask google and you even get a tutorial. :D04:15
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poningrucool04:15
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MalachiWhat does "Roll Up" do?04:15
polpakHey guys04:15
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GenneXponingru: does mldonkey have certain things that needs to be set before it can be used ??04:15
polpakMalachi, makes the window 'roll up' like window blinds04:15
mweMalachi: in what context?04:15
Linfanguinhow can i make vlc my default stream player when i use firefox?04:16
Linfanguini hate mplayer it sucks04:16
Malachipolpak: Thanks!04:16
polpakAnyone know how to configure a CRT port on a laptop?04:16
tylerwhats the diffrence between tar.gz files and tar.bz2 files?04:16
Malachimwe: I've got it.04:16
poningrubino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=Modem#head-0164869cfd1c39a2bdff939835094630ba26bdef04:16
polpakI can't get anthing to display when I plug it in04:16
redhooktyler: .bz2 uses a better compression scheme04:17
poningruGenneX: hmm not sure04:17
poningruGenneX: is it not working?04:17
redhookpolpak: plug the monitor in and reboot04:17
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mwepolpak: you mean like a second display?04:17
GenneXponingru: it opened, but it doesn't connect04:17
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poningruGenneX: unfortunately I cant use any p2p apps or my internet connection will go away, so I cant try to figure this out04:18
poningruGenneX: but I am looking for a tutorial on mldonkey04:18
mweredhook: reboot? can't you just log out of X and back in?04:18
redhookmwe: some laptops will not enable the external monitor port unless a monitor is detected at boot04:18
mweredhook: I see.04:19
polpakmwe, redhook, hrm.. I'm gonna try the i810switch package. Otherwise I'll just try restarting X04:19
GenneXponingru: cool, also looking myself04:19
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redhookpolpak: are you trying to extend the desktop to it or use it as the primary display?04:20
polpakredhook, I'm trying to mirror the display04:21
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redhookpolpak: nvidia go or radeon mobility?04:21
polpakredhook, nope04:21
redhookohh, i810 duh04:21
redhooknever used one of those04:22
redhookyou may have to setup xinerama04:22
polpakredhook, what does that do?04:22
redhookmultihead thing for x1104:23
redhookhttp://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO.html04:23
redhookthe ati drivers handle all that for my mobility 920004:24
poningruGenneX: I couldnt find much, try #mldonkey04:26
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poningruGenneX: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=d9468eb3619a8de8508962b7381c8cd3&t=9139604:32
poningruGenneX: look at that04:32
MageUnionhi all04:32
MageUnioncan anyone teach me any tricks with ubuntu04:33
HericusTricks?04:33
MageUnioni learned how to change root pass today04:33
cvt|gnuyeardo i format a dvd before burning?04:33
MageUnioni dont04:33
MageUnionyup tricks/tips04:33
cvt|gnuyeari'm having probs04:33
ToranOk, any idea on how to PLAY drm wma files on ubuntu?04:33
MageUnioni think u need an extension04:34
MageUnioni dont know what kind tho04:34
MageUnionits in synaptic somewhere that would be my first guess04:34
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poningruToran: that is impossilbe to do04:36
Toranthat sucks04:36
poningruimpossible*04:36
poningruToran: indeed04:36
poningruyou can play normal wma04:36
poningru!restricted04:36
ubotumethinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats04:36
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ToranBah, My library provides free audio books04:37
Toranbut they are DRM protected wmas04:37
noskloif they are free audio books they should be unprotected ogg files04:38
poningruToran: tell them to switch04:38
poningru!freeformats04:38
ubotufrom memory, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats04:38
psusithey aren't free is the point04:38
ToranThey outsource the service to a much larger company04:38
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poningruToran: tell them to outsorce it to me04:38
ToranMe telling this place to switch would do NOTHING.04:38
ToranHehe04:38
psusithe books on tape are copyright... so they provide them electronically as DRM'd wma04:38
ToranI'd prefer DRM'd AAC04:39
ToranThen I could play them on my iPod, at least04:39
FX|GamerHey can anyone else get the TeamSpeak program? I'm always getting a 404 error04:39
psusiI'd like to shove DRM up the person's ass who hands it to me04:39
FX|Gamerhttp://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads04:39
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MageUnionhey guys read this article seems intresting04:40
MageUnionhttp://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9098610423.html04:40
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[nige] hello04:41
psusihow fun would it be to have a cs that would auto play install an audio virtual capture card on windows, take it to the library and stick it in their computers04:41
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psusithen proceed to rip the DRM'd WMA files to ogg04:41
psusis/cs/cd04:41
Linuturkd04:41
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poningruFX|Gamer: looking04:42
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poningruFX|Gamer: I can see it04:42
james_can someone help me04:42
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poningrujames_: cant04:42
james_<---linux noob04:43
poningrujames_: cant help ya if you dont ask the question04:43
poningru:D04:43
james_oh ok04:43
MageUnionjames what do you need?04:43
poningruVR`: where in tampa are you from?04:43
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james_well i just installed ubuntu and I can't change the resolution04:43
FX|Gamerponingru, I can too but I can't download it.04:43
poningruFX|Gamer: oh04:43
VR`poningru i'm not really inside of tampa04:44
VR`i live in pinellas county04:44
james_I can't even see the ok buttons on most of the screens04:44
poningruVR`: ah ic04:44
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MageUniongo to google04:44
FX|GamerI got it. Opera wasn't letting me download it.04:44
MageUnionand try typin how to change screen resolution on ubuntu04:44
FX|Gamerbut I can't run firefox cause it locks up so bad.04:45
FX|Gamer:(04:45
poningrujames_: did you try the system->preferences->screen resolution04:45
MageUniontry that james04:45
poningruMageUnion: this is not #debian04:45
james_yes it only has the one resolution04:45
poningrujames_: what kinda vid card do you have?04:45
james_I am using my onboard video04:45
james_nvidia04:46
poningrujames_: yes, do you know what the chipset is?04:46
MageUnionyou shouldnt have a prob then04:46
james_It is on the k7ng2 board04:46
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poningrujames_: hmm an nvidia shouldnt be causing this prob04:46
poningruhold on04:46
james_when i do a lspci i get this04:46
james_VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU]  (rev a3)04:46
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poningrujames_: ok that should have worked04:47
poningrucan you take a look at this04:47
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%2904:47
poningruthe first solution that they give04:47
poningrurunning the autodetect script again works for most people04:48
poningruif you cant see that let me know04:48
poningruI will paste it for ya04:48
james_looking04:48
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tyleris it possible to compile/make/etc . (installing tarballs) as user ???04:49
FujitsuYes04:49
poningrutyler: yes but you have to use 'sudo'04:49
poningrutyler: for example sudo make foobar04:50
poningruetc.04:50
poningruerr that came out wrong buy you know what I mean04:50
poningrubut*04:50
james_do I want to use framebuffer04:50
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MageUnionbrb04:51
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franky123james_: yes04:51
franky123james_: but it wont kill you if you dont. plus if you have bad eyes the extra res wont help04:52
bimberijames_: say yes, but if X doesn't work after the reconfiguration, saying no is the first thing to try04:52
poningrujames_: yes most definately you want to use framebuffer, you are on laptop right?04:53
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poningru!help04:53
bimberium, don't need sudo to make, you would for "make install" but checkinstall should be used in place of that anyway04:53
poningrubimberi: hence my explanation after04:54
ksmurfI screwing around with 6.04 and am getting a locales error on  upgrade.  why do I need th AU package?04:54
poningru!dapper04:55
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake04:55
james_no not on a laptop04:55
poningrudoh sorry04:55
james_going to restart x brb ...i hope04:55
Kr0ntabheya folks04:55
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LightShearhey kr0n04:58
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djstillmanHey guys, how can I talk to an admin?04:58
eriscoIs there a official crossover office website? If so, what is the url?04:59
djstillmanerisco - http://www.codeweavers.com/04:59
Kr0ntabdjstillman, if yer looking for answers to a question... just ask....04:59
eriscois that really it?04:59
eriscoah04:59
djstillmanerisco - yes05:00
eriscothanks05:00
djstillmanKr0ntab - I actually need an op or admin05:00
eriscowell bye =p05:00
Kr0ntabof the channel... oic.05:00
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djstillmanKr0ntab - forgot my password to identify myself...05:00
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Kr0ntabwoops...  well and op in here prolly wont be able to help you....05:01
djstillmanKr0ntab - Who could then?05:01
Kr0ntabnickserv may drop yer registration after no one uses it for x amount of days....05:01
djstillmanKr0ntab - That's no good...05:01
seth_k|lappydjstillman, if you want a *freenode* admin, type /who freenode/staff/*05:02
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djstillmanseth_k|lappy - I got a list, now what?05:03
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ksmurfdjstillman go to /# freenode and ask them they will probably help u out if u are patient05:03
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ejofeewhy does ubuntu include ruby by default?05:04
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djstillmanksmurf - tried what you typed, and it said it was a bad command...05:04
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Shomos05:04
Swoops wrong window05:05
ksmurfsorry /j #freenode05:05
Kr0ntabdjstillman, "/who freenode/staff/*"   dont put in "type"...05:05
B166ERXi reinstalled my Nvidia card, done the http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/nvidia thing, the nvidia splash screens shows up and all...but my 3D although working is...REALLY slow05:05
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djstillmanKr0ntab - that is what I typed...  I got a list of people...05:06
djstillmanKr0ntab - Now what?05:06
Kr0ntabhehe hes telling you who might be able to help you...05:07
seth_k|lappythose are admins05:07
seth_k|lappyyou wanted to talk to one, yes?05:07
zokahi ppl. I have small partition 4GB where is ubuntu and after the install only 20% left05:07
zokahow to make more space05:07
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dabaRI have two processes that are ran as root, that are both the "mount" command. I get their process numbers from "ps", but using "kill -9" as root does not kill the processes. Is there anything else I can do?05:07
Kr0ntabalso   /j #freenode will take you to a channel that might be able to lend you a hand with your problem05:07
zokais there install source on the disk that can be removed05:07
djstillmanseth_k|lappy - yes, but how do I message them with just their names?05:07
seth_k|lappydjstillman, /query thePerson Hi, here is what I need blah05:07
djstillmanKr0ntab - did that, so now do I just ask the question?05:08
dabaRbtw, this blocks me from really mounting my hdc (both processes are instances of trying to mount /dev/hdc)05:08
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psusidabaR, what were you trying to mount?05:08
djstillmanseth_k|lappy - Ok.  Thank you.  Haven't used IRC in a while...05:08
seth_k|lappydjstillman, np05:08
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psusidabaR, check your demsg for errors05:08
Dasn00b question: how do I mount my windows partion?05:09
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zokaDas you have Disk util05:09
ptlodabaR: hi dude05:09
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polpakHrm.. not working as well as I'd like05:09
polpak!resolution05:09
Daszoka were is that?05:09
uboturesolution is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:09
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MageUnion-{afk}hey guys is it possible to put linux on a cell phone05:09
dabaRatkbd.c is something that is over and over repeated in my dmesg.05:09
zokaDas System Administration Disks05:09
dabaRptlo: hi.05:09
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ptlodabaR: why are your two mount processes hanging? do you have some i/o error on that partition?05:10
MageUnion-{afk}nm brb05:10
whyameyemy dell laptop was happily supporting CPU scaling. Suddenly tonight it doesn't. What happened? How can I repair? Breezy...05:10
ptlodabaR: dmesg l less, and then search (type '/' followed by a search string) for the partition you're trying to mount (hdXY...)05:10
dabaRptlo: the mounted drive is a cd.05:10
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Daszoka were is that?05:10
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psusidabaR, sounds like the cd is unreadable... dmesg should be full of errors05:11
dabaRcan you guys join #flood for a sec?05:11
psusiuse pastebin05:11
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dabaRI cant now...05:11
Noriegahey05:11
ptlodabaR: i'm on flood05:11
Noriegaamarok just won't play my mp3s :(05:11
zokatop left corner of the screen, Aplications then Places and System many under System -> Administration -> Disks05:11
Norieganot xine nor gstream05:11
psusihrm....05:12
Daszoka System > Admin > Disks dosn't exsist05:12
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zokaDo you want screenshot of my env :)05:13
psusidabaR, reboot, and try a different cd05:13
dabaRI can not think of a reason why it would not be killable, the mount processes.05:13
psusidabaR, it isn't killable because the kernel is shitting itself05:13
dabaRNo, I am not going to reboot, no way:) I know that would likely fix it.05:13
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dabaR 22:20:30 up 41 days, 15:27,  4 users,  load average: 6.07, 6.07, 6.0705:13
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dabaRAnd I can not umount my /dev/hdd, btw.05:14
rssWhat is the alsa module for Creative labs Ectiva EV1938 in Breezy Badger?05:14
LinuturkCan we get some seeding for the dapper amd 64 live torrent?05:14
psusidabaR, reboot man ;)05:14
ptlodabaR: process can't be killed if it's "hanging" in the kernel05:14
dabaRI saw this before, and a reboot fixes it. come to think about it...it was also around day 40.05:14
ptlodabaR: mount process has issued a system call that has blocked05:14
luisitohellooo05:14
ptlodabaR: it can't be killed because that part of a system call can't be interrupted05:14
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dabaRooh...I umounted /dev/hdc05:15
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ptlolinus first..he said that microkernels were crap :-)05:15
LinuturkCan we get some seeding for the dapper amd 64 live torrent? I've got nothing coming in for it05:15
psusithe other day I couldn't umount my cdrw because it was having errors being written to05:15
psusiptlo, microkernels are crap...05:15
dabaRthat other drive has been complaining since I got ubuntu Warty, in fact it would not install warty onto my computer, it would tell me cd is broken...and the drive was reallyu.05:15
psusieven a umount -f still blocked in an uninterruptable state05:15
psusiwhile the kernel furiously tried and failed to flush dirty buffers05:16
psusifilling my syslog05:16
dabaRI mean...I umounted /dev/hdd05:16
Daswhere is the Disk Utility anyone?05:16
psusidabaR, my guess is that the drive does not like dma mode or something05:16
rssI have no access to an Ubuntu machine right now, can anyone please check and tell me, what is the module name for Creative labs Ectiva EV1938 in Breezy?05:16
james_well that didn't work05:17
dabaRpsusi: OK, well, at least my hdd got umounted, that is an improvement.05:17
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dabaRptlo, psusi: thank you for the lesson/help.05:17
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ahsmhi everyone, is anyone active here? I got a problem =/05:20
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djs_2_6Hey all.  Having printer troubles with a laserjet 5si.  Anybody have success or ideas?05:21
dabaRahsm: you have to ask a question05:22
psusiptlo, I remember when Linus poo-pooed on zero copy IO.... that really pissed me off.  As a result, to this day, Linux still doesn't widely support zero copy async IO05:22
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ahsmdabaR, ok, i have mouse issues. my mouse just doesnt work properlly, i havent cliked and it selects the program already, its as if someone is clicing the button aall the time05:22
zephyr87hi, does anyone know how to setup a ati x series pci-e video card working properly in ubuntu/any linux system?05:22
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Jecoswhat ati card?05:23
zephyr87ubuntu gave me a bunch of error when i try to boot it from the cd, and fedora coer didn't recognize it05:23
zephyr87ati x700 pro05:23
lostar148How do i check what version of the xvid or divix codec i have installed05:23
dabaRahsm: tried 1 or more mice?05:23
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Jecosit should work with fglrx..  but you'll have to boot it in vesa05:24
ahsmdabaR, I only have one. its a wirelss optical mouse05:24
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ptlopsusi: :) yeah, linus has (had) a strong opinion on many issues, and linux pretty much reflects his opinions (and he's obviously done a good job, since we're all using it now :)05:25
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LightShearHey all, I'm trying to update a server. When I try apt-get update, I get a bunch of W: Couldn't stat source package list...05:25
LightShearany ideas?05:25
Xenguyubotu citrix is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85398.html05:25
ubotuokay, Xenguy05:25
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Kindredahsm, maybe check system - preferences - windows and make sure that top box isn't checked05:26
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zephyr87or could someone tell me how to config display settings in text mode?05:26
Davey`why can't I get esddsp in Ubuntu?05:26
Noriegahow do I play mp3s on ubuntu...05:26
dabaRLightShear: fix your sources.list05:26
Noriegaall programs refuse05:26
Kindred!mp305:26
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:26
Noriegaoh05:27
Noriegathanks05:27
Knowerrorsanybody here use xawtv?05:27
DasAnyone know how to mount windos?05:27
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Scan anyone here help me out05:27
Swith installing ubuntu05:27
Si'm on the laptop now05:27
dabaR!ntfs05:27
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK05:27
Satm i'm up to the part where you hvae to choose a partition05:27
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Xenguy!tell S about ask05:27
KindredS, what's the problem?05:28
psusi!enter05:28
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!05:28
Spreviously i had debian... but i forgot what partition i installed it on lol05:28
ahsmdabaR, its not checked :(05:28
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Breezy4389I have a question about mounting my second hard drive05:28
ahsmi mean05:28
ahsmKindred, its not checked05:28
Sbasically i hvae atm...05:28
dabaRXenguy: heh, so true.05:29
S41.9gb (i'm pretty sure thats my windows hdd), 7gb.. says ext3 and its primary and then a 7gb logical and a 1gb swap05:29
LightSheardabar i don't see anything wrong with sources.list05:29
zephyr87could someone tell me how to config display settings in text mode (when linux is booted up but assumed "headless" and i only have root account?)05:29
Sso would i be correct if i was to say that the 7gb primary was the one i had debian installed on?05:29
Breezy4389I added the hard drive to my fstab file but it keeps telling me "/dev/sda1 is not a directory" what is wrong??05:29
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hostcordhi05:29
psusiBreezy4389, /dev/sda1 is not a directory... you put it in the spot where you specify the directory, not the device05:30
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Dascan anyone tell me how to mount windows?05:30
Sit also says /media/hda3 if thats important05:30
Breezy4389psusi what should i change in fstab??05:30
dabaRLightShear: post to pastebin, we will see something perhaps, and paste the error.05:30
psusiBreezy4389, fix it so it correctly lists all the information ( including WHERE to mount it )05:30
hostcordwhen i was trying to take off the button loader(thing that shows progress when you start up) it messed me in that now whenever i start ubuntu it gives me just the black terminal, like a command prompt, is there any way to set it back?05:31
djs_2_6Hey guys, are there any good sites or irc channels to go to for HP laserjet help?05:31
ahsmfor example, i am in mouse settings, in the motion section. and those little bars you have to click and move around, i just go over and it start smoving05:31
Sanyone?05:31
NoriegaKindred, thanks mp3 works now05:31
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khermanshow do I add a library path for programs to look?05:31
KindredNoriega, great05:31
khermansi want to add /usr/local/lib05:32
Breezy4389so I need to put in fstab the location I want to mount my device?? what is the default location to mount a second hard drive?05:32
NoriegaI already thought I had gstreamer installed :)05:32
Noriega!xine05:32
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Noriega05:32
Noriegameh05:32
dabaRS: ask in one line if you want me to read05:32
Salright05:32
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hostcordhow do i change ubuntu from the command promp to the visual way?05:32
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Breezy4389hostcord: startx05:32
Sat the moment i have 41.9gb (i'm pretty sure thats my windows hdd), 7gb.. says ext3 and its primary and then a 7gb logical and a 1gb swap, so would i be correct if i was to say that the 7gb primary was the one i had debian installed on?05:33
jtibauHi, I need to get libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 for my AMD64 machine but can't seem to find it anywhere, can anyone help me????05:33
hostcordk thanks :) :) :) :)05:33
Breezy4389you're welcome hostcord05:33
djs_2_6Hey guys, are there any good sites or irc channels to go to for HP laserjet help?05:33
Shave you tried the HP webpage05:33
djs_2_6S - Yes, and they are worthless...05:34
dabaRS: why not mount the partition and know for sure? and ya, it is OK to AssUMe that05:34
psusiBreezy4389, yes, you mount devices IN a directory somewhere... where else would you expect the files to appear?05:34
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Smeh i'll just take my chances05:34
dabaRS: sure.05:34
dabaRit is easy to mount if you are in ubuntu...05:34
TraceGreenhey, when i start a program by click icon in ubuntu, desktop will show a circle(tell me wait), does the circle belong to gnome? or is it a third party tool? or it is because X's cursor theme?05:35
SHow should i install ubuntu dabar? should i use the partition as a Ext3, or..?05:35
psusiBreezy4389, a good place might be /media/hda4 or whatever the name of the device is... sudo mkdir /media/hda4 as well05:35
Si'm not in ubuntu i'm trying to install it05:35
dabaRI gotta leave, are you almost done, LightShear ?05:35
dabaRS: sure, ext3 sounds ok...05:35
Vaske_Carhej Dabar05:35
dabaR!install05:35
ubotuit has been said that install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation05:35
dabaRhej Vaske_Car05:35
dabaRVaske_Car: know about #ubuntu-hr?05:36
Swhat should be the mount point?05:36
Vaske_Carsambaseeker here05:36
dabaRhey.05:36
Vaske_Car:)05:36
Vaske_Cardid you install teamspeak?05:36
jtibau Hi, I need to get libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 for my AMD64 machine but can't seem to find it anywhere, can anyone help me????05:36
dabaRS: I am not sure what you are asking.05:36
Sactually what should be hte point point, options and label for this partition (the one i want to install ubuntu on)05:36
dabaRVaske_Car: no, never. can you email me explaining just the very basics?05:36
Vaske_CarI will help you install when you have time05:37
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Vaske_Carits 10 minutes05:37
Breezy4389Thanks a ton psusi!!05:37
dabaRs, the mount point is / label is irrelevant, if I understand.05:37
dabaRVaske_Car: what hardware is needed on both sides?05:37
Sah ok05:37
Sthanks05:37
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Vaske_Carmicrophone and headphones or speakers05:37
dabaRon both sides?05:37
Vaske_Carserver does not need them05:37
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Vaske_Caryou should install client first so we can talk05:38
dabaRright, but both people that talk need it. And what about the OS, can both Windows and Ubuntu connect to it?05:38
Vaske_Carand than see if you like it05:38
dabaRI have some kind of microphone here. Dunno whether it works, but it is easy to get a new one for a few bucks...05:38
dabaR^05:39
NoriegaI am looking for this: a program whcih can play compressed music, cd and get web radio streams, and with EQ settings, any suggestions? :)05:39
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Diablo69sup all05:40
DrZeushi all.  Question: is it possible to make the CD to eject with the button of the tray rather than doing right click(in a laptop.  Dont know if it works in desktops)?05:40
Diablo69I have a major problem that I have been trying to solve for 5 hours05:40
Diablo69I jut converted from fbsd, to try ubuntu....and I installed it, but when it goes to boot it freezes at hotplug05:40
Diablo69any idea on how to fix this?05:40
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Vaske_Caryou can install TeamSpeak client via Synaptic05:41
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Diablo69I can't even get to that point05:41
Xenguyubotu forget citrix05:41
ubotuXenguy: i forgot citrix05:41
dabaRVaske_Car: what about windows, they can connect right? they just need a client installed?05:41
Diablo69I hvaen't even seen the desktop yet05:41
Xenguyubotu citrix is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8539805:41
ubotuXenguy: okay05:41
Vaske_CardabaR, yes05:41
Diablo69is there anyway to disable hotplug:?05:41
dabaRVaske_Car: cool.  what about the client for Ubuntu, what is it called?05:42
Vaske_CardabaR, search synaptic for TS or TeamSpeak05:42
dabaRVaske_Car: I never use synaptic...05:42
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dabaRVaske_Car: But, I will manage, I thought you knew...05:43
bshumateDiablo69: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/hotplug* will disable it05:43
Diablo69how would I get to that point in the cmd prompt05:43
Diablo69bshumate: did you have the same problem as I have?05:44
bshumateDiablo69: Applications > Accessories > Terminal > then type the command in the terminal window05:44
DrZeushow is it done to take out the CD with the button of the tray instead of doing "eject" in the icon?05:44
Vaske_CardabaR, ftp://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/teamspeak.org/releases/ts2_client_rc2_2032.tar.bz205:44
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bshumateDiablo69: no.  you asked for a way to disable hotplug, and I suggested one. ;-)05:44
Daswhy is it that when ever I go to: /media/hda1/Documents and Settings/ it says the directory dosn't exsist?05:44
Diablo69bshumate: I just installed ubuntu, It won't even boot up, it freezes at hotplug, thats what I am saying05:45
dabaRVaske_Car: can you put it onto pastebin? I am in a console here...05:45
faizanhey i have a question05:45
KindredDrZeus, you mean the eject button on the drive?  Not possible in breezy, but possible in the next ubuntu release05:45
faizani have a pure gnome system05:45
DrZeusis it possible to do that? to pull out a CD directly from the tray and not doing "eject" in the icon?05:45
faizanwith no kde apps05:45
Vaske_CardabaR, im not at home bro, i can do it tomorrow05:45
DrZeusKindred: thnx.  Wanted to be shure05:45
dabaRVaske_Car: whenever works. Hey, I am going to sleep too, so talk to you later. Thanks.05:45
faizani  know that installing kde apps installs lots of other kde libraries onto ur box05:45
faizandoes this however effect your gnome in any way05:46
Vaske_CardabaR, actually i am at home but not on PC with Linux05:46
KindredDrZeus, no problem.. wait till April..05:46
DrZeusomG!05:46
Vaske_CardabaR, ok05:46
faizancause i have experienced crashes sometimes with amarok installed05:46
bshumateDiablo69: oh, in that case, you probably need to pass kernel parameters at bootup like acpi=off and such...05:46
Daswhy is it that when ever I go to: /media/hda1/Documents and Settings/ it says the directory dosn't exsist?05:46
Diablo69yeah how would I do that though05:46
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faizandid anyone get my question?????05:48
LightSheardabar i can't do a paste bin; is there a problem with ubuntu's archive servers?05:48
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c0nfliktanyone know why i cant get sound in flash ?05:49
c0nfliktflash is working but no sound05:49
Daswhy is it that when ever I go to: /media/hda1/Documents and Settings/ it says the directory dosn't exsist?05:49
Diablo69bshumate: do I hit escape when it tries to load the kernel, and edit the kernel and type in what u said in its place05:50
dabaRLightShear: not afaik. #flood?05:50
KindredDas, spaces in the path probably, cd "/media/hda1/Documents and Settings/"05:51
ptloc0nflikt: are you using esd (do you have enabled sound events in gnome)?05:52
c0nfliktdunno ?05:52
hydroksydeI just installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a Celeron 333Mhz with 64MB of RAM... doesn't run *too* badly05:52
c0nflikti just switched from gentoo ^_^05:52
c0nfliktand got my Intel graphics working05:52
LightShearthats what seems to be the issue (2 No such file or directory)05:52
c0nfliktill check05:53
ptloc0nflikt: system->preferences->sound ... "enable sound server startup", is it checked? if it is, try to uncheck it, close the dialog, restart firefox/mozilla, and visit the web page with the flash content05:53
DasKindred: bash: /media/hda1/Documents20%and20%Settings/: No such file or directory05:53
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LightShearcan't stat wource packages05:53
LightShearsource*05:53
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DrZeusout of the context: does skype has conference calls?05:53
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c0nfliktptlo: didnt work :\05:54
ptloc0nflikt: which version of ubuntu are you running, and which browser are you using?05:55
Diablo69anybody else know any ways I can fix my hotplug problem05:55
DasAnyone want to explain: bash: /media/hda1/Documents%20and%20Settings/: No such file or directory05:55
KindredDas, type what I said before05:55
c0nflikt5.0405:55
bshumateDiablo69: oh, what you want at the "boot:" prompt is to enter: linux pci=noacpi05:55
c0nfliktMozilla firefox v 1.0.705:55
Dasw00t05:55
bshumateDiablo69: try that and see if it boots.05:55
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ptloc0nflikt: in the location, type: "about:plugins" (without the quotes), is "Shockware Flash" (libflashplayer.so) listed?05:56
c0nfliktptlo; when i went to a page that had flash with sound mozilla wanted to automaticlly install it so i let it i go to about:plugins and i get the flash shopwing up05:56
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SweetestSavageDas, typing cd /media/hda1/Documents\ and\ Settings/ also works.05:56
Satanso anybody know how to turn off hotplug so it won't freeze my computer at start up before I even get to my ubuntu desktop05:57
c0nfliktptlo yup05:57
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ptloc0nflikt: ok, open a new terminal and type: pidof esd <enter> ... does that output some number, or gives no output?05:57
Koruptwhy is it that gnome actually thought people don't like flexibility???05:58
bshumateSatan: uhhhh- at the "boot:" prompt type: linux pci=noacpi  and then hit enter....does it boot?05:58
whyameyecpu speed scaling is suddenly broken after working great on my Dell laptop. How do I troubleshoot?05:58
Korupt</gripe>05:58
Davey`I am having the weirdest sound problems in skype, I finally got the ringer and hangup sounds to work... but voice still doesn't :/05:58
Satanok bshmate, but it boots to fast05:58
SatanI don't have tim eto type all that in05:58
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c0nfliktptlo; 2483105:59
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hostcordhi, i turned off splash but now i cant acces the visual desktop at all only a command login what should i do05:59
bshumateSatan: are you pressing ESC on bootup?06:00
Satanyes06:00
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ptloc0nflikt: ok, type this in the terminal: kill -9 2483106:01
ptloc0nflikt: then, restart firefox and check if it works again06:01
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franky123that command sends the sigkill signal to process number 24831.06:01
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bshumateSatan: you press ESC and don't get a Grub boot menu?06:01
jtibauI have problems finding some libs for ubuntu 64bits can anyone help me06:01
ptloc0nflikt: the above line will kill the sound server06:02
franky123i wonder why the only command to send signals is kill ...06:02
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hostcordi turned off splash but now i cant acces the visual desktop at all only a command login what should i do06:02
james_poninggru you still around06:02
franky123hostcord: login to command prompt, type "gdm" and then change your setting back.06:03
franky123gdm will start the gnome desktop06:03
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bur[n] eranyone familiar with syncing a Palm with evolution?06:03
james_hey franky123 still can't get any onter resolutions06:03
hostcordthanks franky06:03
hostcord:)06:03
Koruptokay, question: is there a good app for doing advanced editing of the current gnome theme (color scheme, etc.)?06:04
james_I searched and installed the nvida drivers and still no go06:04
bur[n] erKorupt: gedit :)06:04
bshumatefranky123: it isn't! there are also pkill, and skill ;-)06:04
franky123james_: ?06:04
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Koruptbur[n] er, that doesn't involvelow level editing...... preferably a gui06:04
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franky123bshumate: what positive connotations pkill and skill carry06:05
bur[n] erKorupt: yeah sorry, gedit's the best i know of :\06:05
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james_i was here earlier only have 640 resolution06:05
DivGradCurlI recently did the first installation phase of putting Ubuntu on my external hard drive, as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 .  However, my computer refuses to boot to it.  Having played with the Grub multiple times (I have Ubuntu installed locally) it appears that the main issue may be that it simply doesn't have the drivers (or whatever) to boot to the external before it boots to the grub screen.06:05
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franky123james_: try running dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg06:05
DivGradCurlAnybody know if there is a way to get around that?  I believe Smart Boot Manager does a similar thing for CD issues, but it never updated with USB support.06:05
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Koruptbur[n] er, this is why I normally don't use GNOME.... they seem to think that there is no such thing as a happy medium06:05
DJISDIABLO69peace of crap computer06:05
franky123james_: the idea is to have it re recognize your monitor06:05
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franky123!resolution06:06
james_it does06:06
ubotuI heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:06
DJISDIABLO69bshumate: sorry man what now about the esc button06:06
franky123ubotu, tell james_ about resolution06:06
bshumatefranky123: unix prgrammers were closet passive-agressive personalities who secretly desired to kill the hardware, the software, and even (*gasp*) the coffee cups!06:06
james_it finds everything but when I come back and reboot it still has no other resolutions06:06
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franky123james_ the xserver reconfigure thing will have this thing06:06
franky123where it allows you to select resolutions06:07
james_it has many of them checked06:07
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franky123bshumate: i think i will make a bash util called happyfy. happyfy -9. it looks so happy06:08
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echeeseHi, how do I set my 32 bit firefox as the default?06:08
DJISDIABLO69bshumate: what do I do man06:08
whyameyewhy is ACPI suddenly broken after working great for my laptop? Nothing has changed. How can I troubleshoot?06:08
franky123james_: so it has 1024x768 checked?06:08
james_yes and others too06:08
Koruptbur[n] er, so its either the theme app (which can't do custom color schemes) or a text editor?   wtf..06:08
bshumatefranky123: yeah, just alias happy=kill ;-)06:08
bshumateDJISDIABLO69: i cannot keep up with your constant nick changes man!06:09
james_but when I goto the screen res under system it only shows 64006:09
DJISDIABLO69dude my pc is being lame06:09
DJISDIABLO69I am on winblows06:09
DJISDIABLO69took me at least 10 mins getting bck in here06:09
DivGradCurlAny ideas?06:09
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james_and it detects my monitor06:10
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Noriega!wmv06:10
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:10
DJISDIABLO69bshumate: what I have done so far is I have hit esc, I see "root" "kernel" "initrd" "savedefault" "boot"06:11
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CaptainMorgan!mov06:11
ubotuCaptainMorgan: Bugger all, i dunno06:11
bshumateDJISDIABLO69: I am fairly sure when you boot, you can hit ESC and you'll get a Grub boot menu.  from there you can add parameters to the kernel, such as the ones I quoted you earlier.  Are you able to get into the Grub menu when you boot Ubuntu?06:11
echeese:D06:11
echeeseHow do I get YTMND working with audio?06:11
DJISDIABLO69yes what do I add at the end of the line of the kernel menu06:11
NeurosisCan someone help me with setting up net-snmp 5.0.7? I go through the configure and do the make but i think there are errors within the make and i cant install.06:12
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bshumateDJISDIABLO69: hang on a sec...brb.06:13
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polpakHrm06:13
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Noriega!mplayer06:14
ubotufrom memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106106:14
polpakAnyone have experience w/ laptops (specifically the crt output) using i855 ?06:14
Koruptwhat window manager does GNOME use by default?06:14
polpakKorupt, metacity06:14
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Neurosis!net-snmp06:14
ubotuNeurosis: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:14
Koruptpolpak: howhard is that to change?06:15
polpakKorupt, dunno. Haven't tried06:15
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whyameyecpufreqd is telling me to enable cpufreq in my kernel. This *used* to work. How do I (re)enable?06:16
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billytwowillyso I exported the korganizer datebook as icalendar and tried to import it into outlook and outlook wouldn't import it. Is there some special thing I should be doing to get outlook importable icalendars?06:18
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tonyyarussoWhat sorts of things about gdm could prevent console switching from working?06:18
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tonyyarusso(Configuration or changes, it worked before.)06:18
confliktptlo: it worked i guess just needed restart ?06:18
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NeurosisCan someone help me with setting up net-snmp 5.0.7? I go through the configure and do the make but i think there are errors within the make and i cant install.06:19
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ptloconflikt: these kind of things don't usually require restart, but maybe something didn't automatically update to the new state, so restart fixed it.06:20
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ptloconflikt: do try to use your media/music players and see if they work - they've probably been configured to work with esd, which now you have shut down - you can configure each individual app to use 'alsa' instead of esd06:20
whyameyehow do set kernel options?06:20
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DJISDIABLO69wb bshumate06:21
polpakAnyone know how to set up a multihead config for X06:21
bklet's take a poll.  what is the best programming language?06:21
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polpakbk, lol06:21
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Steilpolpak, what kind of video card do you have?06:21
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bkseriously, i needsome opinions06:21
polpakSteil, i85506:21
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Steilhmm, I can't really help you then. All I know is it's really simple with nvidia... Sorry06:22
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bdawg2103hi there, need some help with grub06:22
bshumateDJISDIABLO69: you still in the list that has 'boot' 'kernel...' etc. in it?06:22
DJISDIABLO69yes06:22
polpakdrat06:23
bkbdawg, what's wrong?06:23
polpakAnyone familiar with setting up the external CRT monitor on a laptop w/ i855 chipset?06:23
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bkis the 855 chipset for a Penium M?06:23
bshumateDJISDIABLO69:  you highlight the line beginning with kernel, and press 'e' on it... then you end up at grub edit> kernel ... etc. etc.   | at the end of that line, add pci=noacpi06:24
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whyameyeis there a kernel configuration file somewhere?06:24
bdawg2103bk: hi, i've got 2 drives in the box.. one set as primary master (with XP) installed and the other secondary master with ubuntu installed. I am trying to use NTLDR as the main bootloader and it loads windows fine, but fails to load unbuntu06:25
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bshumateDJISDIABLO69: then you press 'b' to boot with that parameter...06:25
CaptainMorganhow do I view konqueror's bookmarks?06:25
DJISDIABLO69ok man one sec06:25
BlackJudasHrrm... mythgame ist borked.. it wants libqt3c-mt... pkg doesn't exist06:25
CaptainMorganalso, konq is not showing a portion of javascript.... any suggestions ?06:25
bdawg2103bk: the menu.lst file and device.map file seem to be ok.. hd0 points to windows and hd1 points to the drive with ubuntu..06:25
bkbdawg, what is NTLDR?  I have the same setup as you, and ubuntu was the one who set up grub automatically06:26
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bshumatebk: NTLDR is Windows NT/2000/XP/etc. etc. bootloader06:26
bdawg2103bk: NTLDR is the windows boot loader i believe.. i created an entry in boot.ini for it to be able to load grub06:26
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CaptainMorgananyone know how to view konq's bookmarks? helpcenter cannot be found...06:27
bkbdawg, i didn't mess with that.06:27
bki don't think it's necessary06:27
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bdawg2103bk: grub is currently installed in the MBR of the secondary drive06:27
bkbdawg, what happens when you first power up your computer?06:27
NobodyHerehey folks, I have postfix installed and the logs are getting rotated every two days, which is really annoying on a low-traffic system.  Logrotate is installed, but nothing is defined in logrotate.d/ or logrotate.conf for mail logs..what's rotating 'em?06:27
bkdoes grub come up?06:27
LightSheardabar still out there?06:28
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bdawg2103bk: no, the NTLDR comes up first because drive with windows is the one that boots first06:28
bki'd take out the changes you made in boot.ini06:28
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bdawg2103bk: i change the boot order to have drive with ubuntu load first, but grub still can't load ubuntu.. but it can load XP06:29
bklet the automatic ubuntu installer do all the work, bdawg, because like i said, i have a successful setup of XP and Ubuntu by letting Ubuntu do the installation06:29
bdawg2103bk: i have not made any changes to grub.. i let the ubuntu installer do it all06:30
morphixhow do i add 'stuff' to openbox?06:30
bkdid you get XP from a Window XP cd, or a factory image disc with a bunch of softare on it?06:30
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morphixatm i have to open apps using terminal :/06:30
bdawg2103bk: a windows xp cd..06:30
bkok06:30
bktry reinstalling Ubuntu.06:30
bkit only takes a half hour06:31
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bksorry can't be of much help06:31
brennertrying to set up a dualboot machine.  when booting xp from grub, i get "Error 29:Disk Write Error" straight after.  if i restore the mbr, i get "Error loading operating system" instead, so it's not necessarily a grub error. apparently my xp install is being borked somehow by ubuntu's.06:31
brenneri've read the forum topics.  suggestions were disabling bios write protection (i don't have that option) and running chkdsk (no impact).  i'm pretty sure it's not a hdd problem.  that wouldn't explain why i can install xp/ubuntu fine on their lonesome. any ideas?06:31
ptlobdawg2103: can you get grub to start?06:32
bdawg2103bk: the problem does not seem to be with the NTLDr because grub is unable to load ubuntu with the current config.. as soon as i change my root from (hd1,0) to (hd0,0) ubuntu loads just fine.. which is weird because as ubuntu is installed on my second drive, it should load from hd106:32
bkyou're right.  so ubuntu is on your master of your second drive?06:33
bdawg2103bk: yes06:33
bdawg2103ptlo: yes i am in grub now06:33
ptlobdawg2103: (i mean, from the ntldr, while it's on hd1)?06:33
bkdo you think the reason you can boot using (hd0,0) is because of the changes you made in boot.ini?06:33
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NobodyHerenobody can help with my postfix question?06:34
bkbdawg, glad to hear you have success06:34
cdubyaNobodyHere, what's the question?06:34
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NobodyHere, I have postfix installed and the logs are getting rotated every two days, which is really annoying on a low-traffic system.  Logrotate is installed, but nothing is defined in logrotate.d/ or logrotate.conf for mail logs..what's rotating 'em?06:34
Madpilotgreetings ubuntooonians06:34
bkbut like i said, i set up dual-boot w/o having to change the boot.ini.  i let ubuntu do all the work.06:35
bdawg2103ptlo: yes, it does load grub and gives me all the options but fails to load ubuntu06:35
Rexis that what we are, Madpilot?06:35
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bshumateNobodyHere: possibly that behavior is due to the savelog command being called in /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd06:35
bdawg2103bk: where did u install grub though?06:35
bkwhat options are available, bdawg?06:35
NobodyHerehmm06:35
bkusually u get a safemode06:35
MadpilotRex: yes, with an optional number of oooos in ubuntooooonian :P06:35
bshumateNobodyHere: check it out, and man savelog06:35
ptlobdawg2103: hit 'e' on the ubuntu line in grub (while you're loading it), and see how it's configured...what's your root?06:35
NobodyHereis savelog a debian thing?  Never heard of it before.06:36
RexMadpilot: I guess you learn something new every day.06:36
bki downloaded and burned the latest version of ubuntu on a disc and followed the auto installer06:36
cdubyayeah, I was going to suggest something with cron.daily.....06:36
bshumateNobodyHere: yes.06:36
NobodyHereugh06:36
bshumatehola Madpilot06:36
bdawg2103ptlo: my current root is (hd1,0) as configured by the ubuntu installer.. seems to be correct as ubuntu is on my second HD06:36
NobodyHerethanks06:36
Madpilothi bshumate06:36
bktry changing it to (hd0,0)06:37
ptlobdawg2103: *nod* ... and when you try to boot, grub complains, or linux kernel complains?06:37
bshumateNobodyHere: no problem...i am fairly certain that will be it, as that kinda thing only happens on Debian / Debian-ish distros ;-)06:37
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NobodyHereI just don't understand why it's necessary when logrotate.d is pretty standard everywhere else.  It's irritating.  Oh well.06:38
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djs_2_6Hey guys, anyone have a place they would suggest to find a decent tv tuner card that would work with breezy?06:38
BlackJudasCan I install a package from dapper (testing)?06:38
CaptainMorgannobody uses Konqueror ?06:38
BlackJudasif so, how?06:38
NobodyHeredjs- standard across the linux world is pretty much Hauppage.06:38
bdawg2103ptlo: grub complains with filesystem type is fat, partition type 0Xc can't load kernel with "error 15: file not found" ... what is likely going on here is that grub seems to be referencing hd1 with my primary (first) harddrive which is formatted with FAT06:39
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, I do06:39
CaptainMorgancdubya, hi - how do I make the bookmarks appear in the same window at the main tabs ?06:39
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cdubyaJust did that tonight.....06:39
ptlobdawg2103: *nod*06:39
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, Settings > Toolbars > Bookmark Toolbar06:40
borisattvahas anyone here been succesfull installing gaim-rhythmbox plug in for ubuntu 5.10 ?06:40
djs_2_6NobodyHere - anything decent but not too expensive?06:40
CaptainMorganI positioned the toolbar to the left..06:40
CaptainMorgannada06:40
BlackJudasHrrrm....06:40
BlackJudasThis sucks.06:40
ptlobdawg2103: grub uses bios info to find disks from which it can boot, afaik. maybe, since you switched boot order in bios, grub thinks you've installed stuff on (hd0,0)06:40
bkhas anyone successfully installed the java plugin for firefox?06:40
XiCillinhas anyone instlaled the latest release of nmap on an amd64?06:40
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, ?06:40
ptlobdawg2103: hit 'e' on line describing the root device, change it to (hd0,0) and try to boot off that06:40
whyameyewhat is supposed to be in my /var/run/sudo directory?06:40
bdawg2103ptlo: using (hd0,0) works06:40
morphixcan someone PLZ help me with openbox?.. i dont know how to configure it or anything.06:41
CaptainMorganwtf... I imported the bookmarks earlier... but apparently they weren't saved.. so I have a toolbar to the left, yet there's no bookmarks argh..06:41
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bdawg2103ptlo: after i finised the ubuntu install on disc, i changed the boot order to allow the secondary drive to load first, but that was after the grub install had completed06:41
ptlobdawg2103: then i guess that's what the issue was. update your menu.lst to that06:41
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ptlobdawg2103: i see - that confused grub06:41
CaptainMorgancdubya, got it now.. thanks ;)06:41
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cdubyaCaptainMorgan, I exported my FF bookmarks cause FF was acting wonky. Konqy brought them in nice and when I showed the toolbar, all is good.06:42
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, cool.06:42
cdubya:)06:42
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whyameyecpu scaling: can anybody help me?06:42
bdawg2103ptlo: will i need to update my Windows XP section of grub as well? if i dont, then both point to (hd0,0).. seems like grub is confused, just dont know what the fix is06:42
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nievonthai..........................06:43
ptlobdawg2103: logic would suggest that you update windows to point at hd1,0....but do try it out and see for yourself06:43
bdawg2103ptlo: ok will make the change right now06:43
ptlobtw if you already have ntldr boot first, i guess you won't boot xp off of grub06:44
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borisattvawhen i try to run sh ./configure i get configure erroe c compiler cannot create executables and instructs me to 'view config.log' i typed 'view config.log' and i get a long list with a ton of lins none of which seem sot explicitely state an error.06:44
K_DallasHi guys! Q: trying to install msttcorefonts but gtting time out on downloading the exe packages. Should i retry later or something has changed with those fonts? thanks06:45
CaptainMorgancdubya, hm.. I like konq's way of displaying the bookmarks...06:45
CaptainMorganhorizontally06:45
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CaptainMorganthe orientation is left...06:46
brennerborisattva: what are you compiling?06:46
bdawg2103ptlo: actually i cant load grub from the ntldr, it just fais with "GRUB"06:46
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ptlobdawg2103: oh, I see :(06:46
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deluxe___does anyone have ubuntu working pretty well on a msi 1029 i just ordered one and havent been able to find much about gentoo on this laptop06:47
borisattvabrenner: a gaim-rhythmbox plug in. i shut down both to make sure they arent restricting modification of some files06:47
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, yeah.06:47
bdawg2103ptlo: yeah, i thought i'd start with booting from the second drive first....06:47
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, always did like Konqy06:47
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ptlobdawg2103: if all this fails, you can always setup grub to use your MBR (from the first disk, where the windows are)06:47
borisattvai found a line in the log that appears to have stopped the config process, but im having probelm understanding the cause06:48
Diablo69bshumate: sorry man pc is being a goatwhore again06:48
Diablo69bshumate: I tried what you said and it didn't work, so I am goign to try and reinstall it with the newest version06:48
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bdawg2103ptlo: i've been told to avoid that, i would ideally not want to mess much with the first disk..06:48
bdawg2103ptlo: but i know things would be a lot simpler then..06:49
ptlobdawg2103: ok, the person who told you that probably has his reasons; i've always used grub on MBR of my first (often only) disk and had no problems06:49
CaptainMorganhowever, ff's ability to keep open a formation as a tree is appealing...06:49
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brennerborisattva: paste the error to a pastebin06:49
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bdawg2103ptlo: i guess i could always restore the NTLDR from a xp recovery disk if i ever have to remove grub06:50
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cdubyaCaptainMorgan, you talking about managing the bookmarks?06:51
ptlobdawg2103: correct06:51
ptlobdawg2103: btw i'm out of loop, does fdisk /mbr still work with xp? :)06:52
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HIghoSptlo: Yes.06:52
borisattvabrenner: http://pastebin.com/49293106:52
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Diablo69anybody know how to disable hotplug or get a realiable version of ubuntu to work06:53
bdawg2103ptlo: thanks a lot, i'll try making the changes and if not, will put grub on the primary MBR06:53
Diablo69the most recent one when I tried to intall it, it quit at 70 % and gave me some erro about initrd-tools06:54
ptlobdawg2103: ok good luck :)06:54
Diablo69error*06:54
bdawg2103ptlo: thanx06:54
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MercuryWhat could cause openssh-server to completely ignore a user having authorized keys setup?06:55
CaptainMorgancdubya, aye06:55
Diablo69bbl I guess, If anyone wants to help me, feel free to pm me instructions06:55
brennerborisattva: weird.  compiler problem maybe?  did you install build-essential?06:55
Diablo69peace06:55
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borisattvabrenner: dont know. seraching synaptic for it now.06:56
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UncleDI have a Wifi network and I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 - its detecting my Wireless router which is wep key protected. It says "the interface is active" but i cant seem to gauge if its connected properly.. any helps?06:56
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borisattvabrenner: oh.. no.. installing them now06:56
borisattvai'm new :-D06:56
cdubyaCaptainMorgan, I found Konq's bookmark system pretty easy to use.....doesn't have the two-paned window like FF, but seems very straighforward06:57
brennerptlo: mind if i tell you of my dualboot problem?06:57
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borisattvait went thought!06:58
ptlobrenner: not at all, i'll throw in some advice if i'll be able to06:58
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borisattvathanks brenner06:58
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CaptainMorgancdubya, straightforward yes.... i have over 400... without a tree view it's sorta difficult to get to one.. :)06:58
morphixhow do i add a taskbar to openbox??????!!06:58
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brennerptlo: trying to set up a dualboot machine.  when booting xp from grub, i get "Error 29:Disk Write Error" straight after.  if i restore the mbr, i get "Error loading operating system" instead, so it's not necessarily a grub error. apparently my xp install is being borked somehow by ubuntu's.06:59
brenneri've read the forum topics.  suggestions were disabling bios write protection (i don't have that option) and running chkdsk (no impact).  i'm pretty sure it's not a hdd problem.  that wouldn't explain why i can install xp/ubuntu fine on their lonesome. any ideas?06:59
brennerborisattva: did it work?06:59
brennerborisattva: you might also want to use checkinstall rather than straight compiling ... it's a nifty tool07:00
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borisattvabrenner: it went passed the compiler error, but now it says version of gaim requierment is not met.. it expected to see >=0.7 and mine is 1.507:00
borisattvabut i guess this is a plugin limitations.. and thanks i'll look into the checkinstall thing07:00
whyameyewhy would cpu scaling work, then suddenly break? I'm about to go back to WinXP...07:01
ptlobrenner: i doubt that ubuntu touched your partition. but perhaps you installed grub on the root sector of the windows partition by accident, which screwed up ntldr?07:01
ptlobrenner: do you have access to this disk at th emoment? you could take a look at your windows partition and see if ntldr is still there07:02
holycowwhat the hell is cpu scaling?07:02
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ptloholycow: on laptops, cpu lowers its clock if there's no work or the battery is nearly empty07:03
holycowah07:03
brennerptlo: hang on, i'll need to mount it07:03
ptlobrenner: no need07:04
ptlobrenner: sudo less -f <device>07:04
ptloand see if NTLDR is mentioned07:04
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ptloif not, you've got corrupt root sector of the partition07:04
brennerptlo: i'm assuming <device> would be /dev/hda?07:04
ptlobrenner: your windows partition07:05
ptlothat's /dev/hda1 in my case07:05
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brennerptlo: you may be on the right track:07:06
brennerthe 1st line is "NTLDR is missing"07:06
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brenneris that the problem?07:06
XiCillini think it has to do with windows boot loader07:07
ptlohmm..no....that's ok...NTLDR is missing/compressed/Press C-A-D to restart..<- these messages are part of the windows loader07:07
ptlothat's ok then07:07
brenneroh07:07
ptloif it mentioned GRUB anywhere, that would be a sign of the problem07:08
ptlobrenner: how did you install xp/ubuntu? first xp then ubuntu, and the installer recognized the windows partition?07:09
brennershould i do a search then?07:09
morphixcan someone please help me with openbox?? i installed sypanel.. and also put it in my ~/.xsession.. along with the other stuff.. but i still dont have a taskbar,etc07:09
ptlobrenner: no, it should be in the first few lines07:09
brennerptlo: then it's not there07:09
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brennerptlo: yes, that's the install method i used07:10
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slashx1896hey all07:10
brennerat the partitioning stage, i took the bootable flag off all the partitions07:10
allison_1984hey slash07:10
brennerand chose instead to install grub to mbr07:10
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ptlobrenner: set the windows partition to bootable07:10
ptlobrenner: older windows required that flag (although it's pointless), i'm not sure about xp07:11
slashx1896can someone help me i just got cpdvd and i wanna copy a dvd to my hard disk07:11
brennerptlo: could i do that w/out reinstalling ubuntu?07:11
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slashx1896how do i copy a dvd thats in my cd tray, to the hard disk using cpdvd?07:11
ptlobrenner: of course, run fdisk of your choice (i prefer cfdisk), and toggle bootable flag, and then write the partition table and exit07:11
ptlobrenner: you will need to reboot to test if that makes any difference, though :)07:12
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ZekeThePlumberhey guys, have you seen this??07:12
ZekeThePlumberhttp://www.digg.com/linux_unix/nUbuntu_Developers_Release_2_-_SP207:13
brennerptlo: i'm guessing i can't run either fdisk or cfdisk right atm?07:13
ZekeThePlumberit actually aint that bad...07:13
ptlobrenner: you can, just sudo cfdisk /dev/hda07:13
slashx1896Can anyone help me on how to use cpdvd?07:13
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ZekeThePlumberdigg it07:13
rexslashx1896: I would read the documentation, since you haven't been getting any luck here.07:14
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slashx1896:\ lol k07:14
ZekeThePlumberhelp em out07:14
brennerptlo: done. rebooting now07:14
ptlobrenner: ok, good luck!07:14
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brennerthanks07:14
bungholehello07:14
bungholehow are you guys doing? (like i really care anyway )07:14
bunghole:D07:14
slashx1896rex, where is the cpdvd documentation07:15
GTroyanyone know what process gam_server is?07:15
bungholei just got home from a LUG meeitng, and they were handing out 5.10 cd packs. live cd and install cd07:15
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GTroyI'm running top, and don't know what it is....07:15
bungholei run debian sarge/testing on both my pcs, and i am sick of old packages07:15
bungholei want to give ubuntu a shot07:15
rexslashx1896: I have no clue. You could try "man cpdvd" if it has man pages... google... I dunno.07:15
morphix:( i need a taskbar.07:15
slashx1896nope..07:15
slashx1896im trying google07:15
bungholethe thing i like about debian is that you can install the base system, and then install whatever you want07:15
bungholecan you do that with ubuntu?07:15
bungholelike built your own OS kinda deal with whatever packages07:16
seth_k|lappybunghole, yes07:16
seth_k|lappyyou can install a "server" install07:16
bungholewicked!07:16
seth_k|lappywhich is just the base system07:16
seth_k|lappyand then add packages07:16
bungholeok07:16
bungholei just wanted to know that before I went ahead and did it07:16
bungholeis xfce4.2  available for ubuntu?07:17
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bungholei could use a link (i can't find one on google) that describes the differences between ubuntu and debian07:17
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ejofeehow do i install flash player in such a way that i could see it manifesting its presence in opera (a norwegian browser that, according to statistics, nobody knows, but is best)07:17
bungholedown with opera07:18
bunghole!07:18
ubotuNo idea, bunghole07:18
bungholej/k07:18
rexsilly ejofee, everyone knows opera07:18
rexIt's just that everyone hates it07:18
rex;)07:18
ejofeerex :)07:18
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bungholethe people in #debian are assholes07:18
bunghole:(07:18
ejofeerex: do *you* (thou) hate opera?07:18
bungholei think i'll go with ubuntu07:18
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ejofeebunghole: why are they assholes?07:19
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rexejofee: I've used it, but saw no reason to use it over firefox, (plus the whole open-source is awesome thing) so uninstalled.07:19
rexejofee: it's better than IE, at least.07:19
brennerptlo: you sir, are a genuis!07:19
brennerit worked07:19
bungholebecause most of them are egotistical insufferable know it alls who are extremely rude07:19
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ejofeerex: the most important opera feature is that it automatically saves current session, which gives me a cool sense of comfort and security07:20
ejofeerex: most important to me, that is07:20
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ejofeeanyway, how do i install flash in opera (a norwegian browser)07:20
ptlobrenner: heheh cool, i'm glad it worked :)07:20
bungholeit was a combination of mostly the debian userbase, plus the old software that pissed me off07:20
rexejofee: sounds good for my Windows computer that crashes, but... ;)07:20
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bungholeubuntu was being praised by the entire 40 people present at the linux user group meeting tonight07:20
bungholeso i'll give it a go07:20
deFryskto install opera properly make sure to install lesstif07:20
bungholeheh07:20
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brennerptlo: so basically, it was me who borked it. :)07:21
ejofeerex: heh, right... but sometimes i accidentally ctrl+alt+bksp my x11 server, you know :)07:21
deFryskejofee, install lesstif07:21
bungholei will do that tomorrow, i'll have to backup a lot of config files07:21
bungholedamn07:21
ejofeedeFrysk: what for?07:21
deFryskfor flash to work properly in opera07:21
ejofeedeFrysk: ohh, for plugins support?07:21
raulhi people07:21
rexejofee: Haven't done that yet, but you never know I guess ;)07:22
bungholehi raul07:22
MercuryArrgh, I have two systems, with identical pam and sshd configurations, only one works for this and the other doesn't.07:22
Kindredhi raul07:22
MercuryReally doesn't..07:22
ejofeedeFrysk: right, thanks.07:22
deFryskejofee, yes07:22
deFryskyw07:22
rauli am new in this07:22
SpecialBuddyso has anyone here used gentoo at all07:22
ptlobrenner: it happens ... you didn't break anything (beyond a quick fix) so that's ok....windows *is* pretty stupid about requiring that flag, anyways...it hasn't been used since ages (in fact, i've never witnessed it been used, except to confuse people)07:22
deFryskSpecialBuddy, yes I have07:22
ejofeedeFrysk: but... which one? 1, 2?07:22
raulsorry if some things y can not understand07:22
SpecialBuddydo you like it?07:22
deFrysklesstif107:23
deFryskSpecialBuddy, i like ubuntu yes07:23
ejofeedeFrysk: thanks again.07:23
rexI also like Ubuntu07:23
brennerptlo: *nod* strange.  i am certain i've done installs where i've haven't had the bootable flag enabled though07:23
SpecialBuddywhich one do you like more07:23
deFryskSpecialBuddy, ubuntu otherwise i would not use it ;)07:23
ptlobrenner: *shrug* i always leave it on, just to be on the safe side..07:23
SpecialBuddyoh07:23
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raulsome can said me how y can instal the new amsn?? please07:24
SpecialBuddywhat do you do if you want to use two monitors with ubuntu?07:24
rexSpecialBuddy: You're asking in the wrong channel if you are looking for people that don't like Ubuntu.07:24
brennerptlo: well, thankyou anyways.  i must have done at least 8 reinstalls of xp and ubuntu in total yesterday07:24
ptlobrenner: ouch! :(07:24
slashx1896Anyonehere good at dvd ripping using dvdshrink/dvdbackup07:24
bungholeubuntu comes with gnome installed.  i don't want gnome.  I want xfce4.2.  so i should install a server system (base system).  i do that with debian too, then i install alsa etc, and get sound, then i move on to other stuff.  if i know how to use debian quite really well, can i manage with ubuntu?07:24
slashx1896im using a HOWTO, but im getting an error07:24
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slashx1896and i need this dvd coppied and burned by tmrw..07:25
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brennerptlo: yeah.  it's fair to say i don't like the colour blue anymore :)07:25
rexslash1896: I've used DVD X Copy and FairUse under windows, never had any problems.07:25
deFryskbunghole, install xubuntu-desktop to get xfce4.207:25
SpecialBuddyanyone know about the monitor issue?07:25
slashx1896rex, im using ubuntu not windows07:25
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rexslashx1896: I guessed as much07:25
bungholedeFrysk, the LUG meeting tonight were giving out breezy cds07:25
slashx1896im trying to do it as this HOWTO says but i have an error07:25
rexslashx1896: just trying to be as helpful as possible.07:25
bungholexubuntu-desktop is a package?07:25
slashx1896http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5904&highlight=dvd+ripping07:25
ptlobrenner: heh ;-) good thing ubuntu ships with brown by default :)07:25
slashx1896whats this mean?07:26
slashx1896You must provide a title name when you read your DVD-Video structure direct from the HD07:26
deFryskbunghole, if you have space , do a standard install , after that install xubuntu-desktop and remove the gnome/etc bits you do not like07:26
SpecialBuddyanyone know about monitors with ubuntu?07:26
Slaj_RQuestion -- When running configure for a new package, I get "configure: error: Can't find 'javac' in your PATH."  What's the course of action?07:26
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ptloSpecialBuddy: that's called xinerama - if you have nvidia card, check out http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html07:27
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slashx1896anyone know what the last thing i just said means?07:27
deFryskbunghole, or if you prefer , a minimum install and after that install xubuntu-desktop07:27
bungholedeFrysk, i am a bsd nut, i usually don't deal with precompiled binaries, but on linux, i don't want to have to recomiple if i can find precompiled binaries.  i see what you are saying, but i'd rather just do a minimal system install with networking, then just install whatever packages i need07:27
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bungholei like doing that07:27
SpecialBuddythanks07:27
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bungholedeFrysk, yes my man, thats what i want07:27
bungholeok i go ti, thanks07:28
bungholegot it*07:28
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SpecialBuddyI don't have an nvidia card07:28
bungholei do07:28
bunghole:D07:28
deFryskme too ;p07:29
bungholeoh07:29
bungholehey deFrysk07:29
MercurySon of a bitch.07:29
raulsoem know were i can get a program for lisent music in the internet07:29
raullike a radio07:29
raulor radio please07:29
rexhahaha07:29
deFryskraul, shoutcast.com07:30
deFrysk</spam> sorry07:30
bungholeanother q.  i have nvidia 32mb geforce mx2/200 card.  on debian i usually have to get kernel-common -glx etc and build the nvidia modules and install it, before i get video to work.  is it the same way with ubuntu?  does ubuntu have that crazy stable/testing/unstable bullshit like debian or is it clean from that retarded crazyness?07:30
raulok thanks i am going to check defrysk07:30
deFryskbunghole, for old card we have nvidia-legacy or smething , make sure to use that package07:31
bungholedeFrysk, well do i need to build the kernel module for nvidia, or is there a precompled binary for it?07:31
ptloSpecialBuddy: what kind of card do you have?07:31
deFrysk!nvidia07:31
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736807:31
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SpecialBuddywell it's integrated on my laptop07:31
bungholeim sorry to be so inquisitive, but i have severe add, and i can't pay attention to shit i read on a website more than 4 minute07:32
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deFryskbunghole, read ubotu 's line07:32
ptloSpecialBuddy: i'm guessing it's either ati or intel? can you check?07:32
SpecialBuddyintel07:32
slashx1896why wont libdvdread read the title of my dvd??07:32
SpecialBuddyintel something07:32
SpecialBuddynot sure how to check right off hand07:32
bungholeyeh im on it07:32
bungholethanks07:32
ejofeedeFrysk: i installed lesstif... now what?07:32
deFryskbunghole, again get the legacy package for older nvidia-cards ;)07:33
slashx1896Does anyone know why libdvdread wont read the title ofmy dvd? and i missing something?07:33
ejofeedeFrysk: (restarted opera. still doesn't work.)07:33
deFryskejofee, have you installed flash ?07:33
raulok my friends i am gonna to sleep07:33
slashx1896Guess no one knoes why..07:33
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raulbecause yesterday i intal ubuntu in my pc soo y need sleep07:34
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ejofeedeFrysk: it seems so. flashplugin-nonfree is what i installed.07:34
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bungholei hear debian is pissed cuz most of thier developers are moving to ubuntu?07:35
Erasmusi have a bit of a problem, whenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Therman and Fan and freezes07:35
bungholeis that true?07:35
raulsee you07:35
ptloSpecialBuddy: to enable xinerama, you'll have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , see the example at http://www.nozell.com/marc/data/xorg.conf-dual-head-xinerama (that guy has ati radeon, but nevermind that) - scroll to the end, see section "ServerLayout"07:35
bungholenot that it matters, just wondering though07:35
deFryskejofee, any errormassages when starting opera ?07:35
SpecialBuddythanks07:35
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ejofeedeFrysk: should i have installed flashplayer-mozilla?07:35
Satan oy I have a major problem07:35
deFryskejofee, in breezy ?07:35
deFrysk!info flashplayer-mozilla07:36
ubotuflashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB07:36
ptloSpecialBuddy: you can copy-paste your "Screen" section to create another one with a different name, and then follow the logic in ServerLayout07:36
SatanI got the new ubuntu to install, and I added the pci=noacpi at the end of the  kernel line07:36
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Satanand it still won't get past the hotplug07:36
ejofeedeFrysk: yes, breezy. what i installed is 22 kb. flashplayer-mozilla (which i haven't installed) is more than 600 kb.07:36
SatanI also unplugged every one of my usb devices07:36
SpecialBuddyok07:36
SpecialBuddythanks07:36
Satanany idea?07:36
ptloSpecialBuddy: there are different layouts you can use, google for their list/meaning07:36
deFrysk flashplayer-mozilla is for breezy07:36
ptlonp07:36
Erasmusi have a bit of a problem, whenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Therman and Fan and freezes07:36
deFryskejofee, so yes correct07:37
deFryskejofee, install flashplayer-mozilla07:37
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polpakGah07:37
polpakThis shouldn't be that hard07:37
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ejofeedeFrysk: thank you. i thought it was mozilla only. is seems it should be named "flashplayer-mozilla-and-compatible"07:38
SpecialBuddythanks07:38
polpakDoes anyone know where I can go to get help configuring X11 to use a clone display on an i855 chipset vid card for a laptop w/ CRT out?07:38
Erasmuscan ANYONE help me???07:38
deFryskejofee, no the one you install now is ment for breezy , the one you had is for hoary07:38
deFrysk!anyone07:39
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>07:39
ejofeedeFrysk: then any idea why do i have them both in breezy repos?07:39
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ejofeedeFrysk: some ubuntu interversion compatibility purposes?07:39
Erasmusdefrysk: yeah, i've asked my questions twice now07:39
deFryskejofee, I have them both too but I read the docs ;)07:39
polpakdeFrysk, I did ask the real question ;p07:39
ejofeedeFrysk: then again, why this *huge* difference in package file size?07:39
deFryskejofee, dunno07:39
Satanubotu: what is a good way to disable hotplug so it won't freeze my system07:40
ejofeedeFrysk: i see. thank you very much.07:40
ubotuSatan: what are you talking about?07:40
deFryskejofee, ask in #ubuntu-motu07:40
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Erasmusi have a bit of a problem, whenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Thermal and Fan and freezes07:40
Satanubotu: when I rebooted my pc after intalling the newest version on ubuntu, It went to boot, and it froze at hotplug07:40
ubotuSatan: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about07:40
deFryskSatan, ubotu = a bot07:41
franky123Satan: ubotu is a bot07:41
ErasmusSatan: ubotu is a program, not a real person07:41
polpakubotu, tell Satan about ubotu07:41
rexhahahaha07:41
Satanwell anywho07:41
deFrysk4some07:41
rexThat was fast07:41
Satanwill somebody please point me in the wrong direction, I hvae tried google before asking07:41
Satansome say its a fan problem, a heat sinc is loose, or a bad iso07:41
deFryskSatan, wrong direction ?07:41
MadpilotSatan: the wrong direction? :P07:41
rexI'll point you in the wrong direction if you want...07:41
rexgoatse comes to mind.07:41
SatanI met the right direction07:42
SatanI haven't slept much lol07:42
Erasmustry stabbing your PC with a screwdriver... thats a good direction not to go in07:42
deFrysksilly Satan never sleeps07:42
Satanpreety much07:42
Satanup 24 hours07:42
SatanI sleep 207:42
polpakDoes anyone know where I can go to get help configuring X11 to use a clone display on an i855 chipset vid card for a laptop w/ CRT out?07:42
Satanand od it over07:42
Satando*07:42
Erasmuswhenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Thermal and Fan and freezes07:43
polpakLike where do the xorg guru's hang out? ;p07:43
SatandeFrysk: do you know why my pc freezes at hotplug07:43
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bobbyErasmus, stabbing your pc with a screw driver doesn't really cause that much havoc....at least I've found :)07:44
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rexbobby: You must have missed a step somewhere. Did you remove the case first? ;)07:44
Erasmusbobby: your not stabbing in the right places then07:44
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bobbypolpak, people debian tend to be able to help out with more technical questions...just don't gloat that you are a ubuntu user and they wont ask if you're not07:45
Satannaw but a lb will make a nice fire :))07:45
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Erasmusugh, i give up, i'm getting nothing here but a headache from repeating myself07:45
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Mr_Milenkosucks dude07:45
Mr_Milenkoi get humour07:45
Mr_Milenko:D07:45
bobbyrex, hehe mmm case on :D ...to be honest though, many a time have I slipped with the old jab to get the heat sink on and given the mobo a good stabbing in the proccess to no ill effect07:46
polpakbobby, #debian on FreeNode?07:46
bobbypolpak, indeed07:46
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slashx1896Where can i get libdvdcss??07:46
bobbywiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats07:47
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bobbyor some thing07:47
bobbylike that07:47
bobbyguide ^_^07:47
Mr_Milenkomessage ubotu07:47
ilba7rslashx you can find it in ubontu backport repos07:47
Satantry dvd decrypter via wine @ slash07:47
Mr_Milenkoand ask him about restricted formats07:47
Satanit works better07:47
Mr_Milenko:)07:47
franky123!libdvdcss07:47
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats07:47
Mr_Milenkopfft07:47
bobbygot it right :D07:47
Mr_Milenkodvd2xbox.. use my xbox as a workhorse and transfer the files via smb ;)07:47
slashx1896i need a dvd copied and burned tonite07:48
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ilba7r!backport07:48
ubotuI guess backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports07:48
trappistslashx1896: I told you like 10 hours ago what's up with that07:48
ilba7rslashx add the repos and you can then use apt get to install libdvdcss207:48
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slashx1896lol07:49
slashx1896u did?07:49
slashx1896im soo tired and confused..07:49
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Satanyeah same here07:49
bobbyslashx1896, dvd::rip07:49
bobbyor k3b07:49
bobbyor gnome-something07:49
trappistslashx1896: unless you have dual-layer dvd writer and media, and you probably don't, you can't just copy.  you need to rip + encode, and that's not likely to happen tonight.07:49
bobbyindeed07:50
Kindreddual layer to single layer in linux.. I have not yet found a way to do that07:50
Mr_Milenkowrong..07:50
Mr_Milenkodont need to encode O_o07:50
Mr_Milenkohes trying to rip i beleive07:50
slashx1896Ya07:50
trappistMr_Milenko: rip=encode07:50
Mr_Milenkono..07:50
Mr_Milenkodecode07:50
Mr_Milenkowell decrypt07:50
Mr_Milenko:P07:50
trappistmkay.07:50
rexIf you're trying to put it on another DVD07:51
rexThat isn't dual layer07:51
Mr_Milenkowell true..07:51
rexyou're going to have to re-encode.07:51
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Mr_Milenkoso i guess were all right07:51
trappistwe're not talking about the encryption.  we're talking about commercial dvds are 9 gb and single-layer media are only half that.07:51
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Satanhaha you guys wern't kidding about people in debian not like ubuntu much :))07:52
slashx1896um.. well a question about libdvdcss, im trying to get it and it keeps saying07:52
slashx1896dpkg: status database area is locked by another process07:52
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Mr_MilenkoThey're just pissed cause people think debian is just a package managment system now :P07:52
trappistpeople in #debian pretty much like debian.07:52
Satank07:52
ptloslashx1896: you probably have synaptic open, and it's locked the package database07:52
Mr_Milenkoand whenever you say deb... people think of ubuntu07:52
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Mr_Milenkolol07:52
Satanthey said07:52
slashx1896ahh thought so07:52
slashx1896lo07:52
slashx1896*07:52
Satan"fuck off to #ubuntu"07:52
Satan:))07:52
deFrysktrappist, makes sense :)07:52
Mr_Milenkostop trolling07:53
Mr_Milenkothose guys are too "Proper" to say fuck off to a channel07:53
Mr_Milenkolol07:53
rexhaha07:53
SatanI hae proof07:53
ptloSatan: you sure you didn't provoke them first, mentioning ubuntu and debian in a way that they weren't comfortable with? :)07:53
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Satanone sec07:53
Satan<--knows fbsd like the back of his hand07:53
SatanI heard about unbuntu from a friend07:53
UncleDI have a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 w/ Wireless-G PCI Adapter WM p54g card in my box. I have the "windows cd" with a drivers folder in it which has a .INF file in it. How do I get ubuntu to install these drivers?07:54
slashx1896Right now im trying to backup my dvd files.. and im using dvdbackup.. but it says u must provide a title name when you read your dvd07:54
Mr_Milenkook then... tell me something about FreeBSD and ill tell you if your wrong or not :P07:54
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=== Mr_Milenko thinks your just a newbie trying to start drama
Satanwhat do you wanna know07:54
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Mr_Milenkojust tell me anything07:54
makkkSo, any reason at all why I shouldnt reformat my NTFS to FAT before I set up a dual boot?07:54
Satandude I have been on that os for at least 2 years07:54
Satanto much to tell07:55
Satanbut uhh07:55
rexMr_Milenko: FreeBSD is teh sux0r07:55
rexHow's that ;)07:55
slashx1896The people in debian told me about ubuntu lol07:55
Mr_Milenkorex: of course ;)07:55
Satanif you create a file called .xinitrc07:55
Mr_Milenkorofl07:55
Mr_Milenkoyou fail07:55
Mr_Milenkonext contestant?07:55
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rexHey, I won, right?07:55
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Satangheh you said anything07:55
Mr_Milenkoyes07:55
Mr_Milenkoyou get a cookie07:55
rexk07:55
LordMelkoris there anyway to disable the system beep07:55
Mr_Milenkocongratulations07:55
rexsweet.07:55
LordMelkorits really irritating07:55
rex"I'd like to thank...07:55
Mr_Milenkonow i need 15 dollars and your address07:55
rexSatan.07:55
Mr_Milenkoso i can ship it07:56
Mr_Milenko:)07:56
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rexhehehehe07:56
Satanrex: sup?07:56
zosologistim bored as crap07:56
Mr_Milenkoi like cheese07:56
rexSatan: I was saying I wanted to thank satan. I forgot you were here.07:56
zosologistanyone have any ideas?07:56
polpakDoes anyone know where I can go to get help configuring X11 to use a clone display on an i855 chipset vid card for a laptop w/ CRT out?07:56
rexzosologist: http://www.altavista.com/image/randomlink07:56
rexzosologist: boredom eliminator.07:56
zosologistman its gonna be awefull i bet07:56
slashx1896hey.. im using dvdbackup and i keep getting, this error what does it mean?07:56
slashx1896You must provide a title name when you read your DVD-Video structure direct from the HD07:56
SatanMr_Milenko: I do know one thing, copying dvds on fbsd sucks ass07:56
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Satan:P07:56
darkritualSatan is on earth wheee07:57
Mr_Milenkocopying dvds on any os sucks ass07:57
Mr_Milenkobuy em07:57
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rexZosologist: It's a link to a random page on the internet. It could be horrible, or not...07:57
Mr_Milenkoor use a real mans operating system07:57
Mr_MilenkoDOS07:57
Kr0ntabslashx1896-> are you trying to copy the entire ocntents of a dvd?07:57
Mr_Milenkolol07:57
Satanlol07:57
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LordMelkorhow can i disable the system beep?07:57
rexzosologist: The first time I tried it, it brought be to some freaky female bondage porn, so...07:57
slashx1896Ya07:57
Mr_Milenkorip out your system speaker07:57
Mr_Milenko:P07:57
morphixhow do i take a screenshot and save it to a file?07:57
LordMelkorew07:57
zosologistrex: lol great stuff07:57
Kr0ntabdvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o .07:57
Mr_Milenkothats what i did... seriously07:58
Kr0ntabthat will do it07:58
Mr_Milenko:P07:58
rexMr_Milenko: That's the best solution to anything ever07:58
crimsunLordMelkor: System> Preferences> Sound> System Bell07:58
Kr0ntab-M copies everything....07:58
Mr_Milenkoand if anyone thinks i'm trolling.. its not intentional..07:58
LordMelkorthx07:58
Mr_Milenkoi do help..07:58
Mr_Milenkobut in a smartass sort of way07:58
Mr_Milenko:)07:58
Satanhey do you think this would hep with my hotplug issue07:58
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slashx1896ive been doing dvdbackup -M -i/path/to/dvd/drive -o/path/to/folder07:58
Kr0ntab-i is the interface... and "-o ." means output in the current directory07:58
darkritualAny one knows if Sound Blaster Live Value supports Dolby 5.1 ?07:58
laughsHey I have been trying to get my lexmark z11 working but get an error when compiling the source for the driver. Does anyone think they can help? http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1415601&forum_id=20579007:58
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Satantry booting into single user mode and `dpkg --purge hotplug07:59
darkrituallaughs, got any errors or?07:59
Mr_Milenkodude i thought that guys nick said forsk1n at first >_<07:59
laughsdarkritual, view the link.07:59
darkritualokay...07:59
slashx1896krontab, ive been doing dvdbackup -M -i/path/to/dvd/drive -o/path/to/folder, and what i showd u is what i got07:59
rexMr_Milenko: wow, man. Just wow.07:59
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Mr_Milenkoim half asleep..08:00
Mr_Milenkolol08:00
Mr_Milenkomy eyes are playing tricks on me08:00
darkrituallaughs, you need an libery08:00
slashx1896i am in a way also...08:00
laughsdarkritual, do you know which one?08:00
zosologistrex: thats hilarious its a new bookmark08:00
darkrituallaughs,  one to compile i don't know but it could be GCC libery's08:01
rexzosologist: Glad I could help ease your pain ;)08:01
Kr0ntabslashx1896-> hmmm...   try exactly as I put it.  spaces between flags and values..... and CD to the output directory you wish first....08:01
laughsah ok I will have a look around synaptic. Thanks.08:01
Kr0ntabslashx1896-> not sure if it's getting hung up on minor syntactical issues....08:01
slashx1896Wait so what did u say? lol08:02
trappistlaughs: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:02
Satanbbl guys08:02
Satangooglling for the answer08:02
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Satan...again08:02
laughsok thanks trappist.08:02
rexSweet, Satan is leaving. Now we can be BAD!08:02
slashx1896alrite i did CD to my output folder08:02
darkrituallaughs,  try: sudo apt-get install lib64gcc108:02
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Naughty-Nurse:P08:02
slashx1896haha08:02
rex:O08:02
darkritualohh we got an nurse :o08:02
darkritualNaughty-Nurse, ive been bad punish me :D08:02
rexWoooahh08:03
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Kr0ntabhehe08:03
Naughty-Nursehehe08:03
Mr_MilenkoYou know thats a guy right08:03
Mr_MilenkoO_o08:03
Mr_Milenkolook at the adams apple08:03
darkritualDousnt matter its a female now XD08:03
Mr_Milenkoits buldging from his neck!08:03
slashx1896kr0ntab, so do dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o while CD to my output folder08:03
Naughty-Nurseanywho guys bbl08:03
ardchoilleSkippy is nice: http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7tw.png08:03
slashx1896cya later08:03
Kr0ntabremember the space and period after -o08:04
Mr_MilenkoEvery guy on the internet is a nerd in some way, but on the other hand, every chick on the internet is a guy... What a sad world we live in!08:04
Kr0ntab"dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o ."08:04
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darkritualardchoille, nice opacity settings08:04
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zosologistits official08:05
allison_1984Mr-Milenko: wrong ! I am a tomboy....lol08:05
zosologistthe internet needs to be stopped08:05
ardchoilledarkritual: That is skippy08:05
zosologist25 random pages in a row08:05
darkritualardchoille, who is skippy?08:05
zosologistporn08:05
zosologistPORN08:05
Mr_Milenkolol08:05
zosologistfor the love of god shouldnt everyone be chafed beoynd recognition?08:05
zosologistlike tiny strips of grated man flesh08:05
zosologistguh08:05
ardchoilledarkritual: skippy is a visual task manager. takes a snapshot of all windows and displays them as thumbnails allowing you to choose between them08:06
DRAGON_Ultrathis room is going down hill08:06
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slashx1896kr0ntab, it only got like 6 files.. and its not done or moving its stuck at elapsed time 1,08:06
rexzosologist: hehehehehe08:06
zosologistwait i found some cool rocks08:06
rexzosologist: You know, the internet is for porn.08:07
Kr0ntabslashx1896-> from another terminal... while the command is sitting there....   cd to the path of the output....08:07
slashx1896k08:07
Kr0ntabslashx1896-> you'll the a directory named the same as the dvd's volume name... and VIDEO_TS directory within....08:07
slashx1896yup08:08
slashx1896and in VIDEO_TS theres only 6 files08:08
ilba7r!networkmanager08:08
ubotunetworkmanager is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto08:08
slashx1896on the dvd udner VIDEO_TS thers alot more08:08
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Naughty-Nursedamn I wish google was more of a help08:08
slashx1896lol google fail on you?08:09
Kr0ntabcd in there... and type     "watch -n 1 ls -lht"08:09
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Kr0ntab:-)   that will show you progress as it happens within the directory08:09
Naughty-NurseI can't seem to find anywhere where it tells me how to turn off hotplug08:09
Kr0ntabdid the dvdbackup command finish?08:10
slashx1896no08:10
slashx1896its stuck08:10
Kr0ntabok cool...08:10
slashx1896its not doign anything but its not finsihed08:10
Kr0ntabit will just stay there for a while...08:10
Kr0ntabits working probably....08:10
slashx1896o ok for about how long?08:10
polpakDoes anyone know how to set up xorg.conf to do a cloned display with an i855 onboard video for a laptop?08:10
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Kr0ntabripping a dvd depends on size... but my dvdbackup rips take about 10 minutes.... depending on size08:11
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slashx1896the movie is 2hrs thats all i know08:11
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Diablo69oy08:11
vultairenewbie question: console command to see a list of pids?08:11
Diablo69I liked my old nick 2 :(08:11
laughsthanks for that trappist and darkritual it was the build-essentials that was needed. :)08:11
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laughsPrinter is working :)08:12
kameronvultaire: ps08:12
darkrituallaughs, it was just my lucky gues XD08:12
vultairethx08:12
darkritualPeople help me and i help people thats why the linux community is so strong08:12
slashx1896kr0ntab its frozen on these 2 lines or w.e08:12
slashx1896libdvdread: Found 6 VTS's08:12
slashx1896  libdvdread: Elapsed time 108:12
Diablo69could I blacklist hotplug?08:12
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Kr0ntabslash.... cd into the VIDEO_TS folder08:12
bungholevultaire, man ps.  commonly used ps argument ' ps x ' ps auxf08:12
bungholeetc.08:12
aftertafDiablo69:  you can add modules to hotplug's blacklist08:13
slashx1896in the other terminal?08:13
Diablo69I need to stop it completly08:13
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Diablo69cuz thats what screws me over08:13
Kr0ntabslashx1896, yes.. in another08:13
Diablo69there has to be SOME way to turn it off08:13
aftertafDiablo69:  hehe... could be worth upgrading to dapper.08:13
aftertafDiablo69:  in dapper there is no hotplug, its udev that manages it now :)08:13
Kr0ntabcd in there... and type     "watch -n 1 ls -lht"   without the quotes....08:13
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Diablo69is dapper, ubuntu?08:14
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darkrituallaughs08:14
kameroni connected a hard drive.. it's ntfs. how do i mount it?08:14
aftertafDiablo69:  but if not, hotplug can be deactivated at boot, as it is an init.d service that runs08:14
SpecialBuddywhy is it so hard to use two monitors?08:14
kameronDiablo69: it's the next release, due out for april08:14
aftertafDiablo69:  dapper is the unsbale version, to be released stable 04/0608:14
Diablo69how would I deactivate it08:14
vultairebunghole: thx, very useful08:14
slashx1896ooo i did hte output and did the watch command not the video_TS in the output08:14
slashx1896kk08:14
aftertafDiablo69:  sudo update-rc.d remove -f hotplug08:14
kameronvultaire: ps -A | grep programname08:14
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kameronvultaire: that's a good one too08:15
Kr0ntabyou see the files "growing" ?08:15
Diablo69where do I type that at08:15
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aftertafDiablo69:  open a console and type away ..... but write down what it says in case you need to put it back.08:16
Kr0ntabslashx1896, you see the files getting larger?08:16
Diablo69I can't even get past the hotplug when its booting to ubuntu08:16
slashx1896no08:16
aftertafDiablo69:  or even better, install bum and deactivate it without removing it from the rc.S08:16
Diablo69I haven't even seen ubuntu08:16
aftertafDiablo69:  can you boot in safe mode?08:16
Diablo69I wouldn't know how to08:16
aftertafDiablo69:  what stage are you at? did uit finish the installation?08:16
slashx1896yes08:16
slashx1896slowly08:16
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Diablo69yes08:16
Diablo69now it won't boot08:16
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ryancasimiropls help me: how do you delete a certain line from a text file?08:17
Diablo69it freezes my box at hotplug08:17
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vultairekameron: thx08:17
slashx1896it went from 1.1gig to 1.2gig so yeah its getting larger08:17
Kr0ntabslashx1896, good... then it working.   have you enabled DMA on yer dvd drive?08:17
aftertafDiablo69:  ok. when you boot your PC, press ESC as soon as grub flashes up (just before it starts booting linux)08:17
vultairekameron: still need help mounting that ntfs drive?08:17
slashx1896Dont think i did08:17
Diablo69k08:17
Diablo69what then08:17
Kr0ntabslashx1896, it will speed things up dramatically...08:17
slashx1896how to do it?08:17
kameronvultaire: well, er, it's mounted. i just forget how to add my username to fstab to i have access to it, right now root is only allowed.08:17
aftertafDiablo69:  you can choose the 2nd option, linux kernel with a number + recovery mode08:18
aftertafDiablo69:  are you on the same PC in dualboot now?08:18
Diablo69no08:18
aftertafok cool :] 08:18
vultairekameron: imo the easiest way is to set the umask property... this is what I have in my fstab08:18
Diablo69seperate pc08:18
kameronvultaire: mine sharing an example?08:18
Kr0ntabslashx1896,   "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd"08:18
Diablo69this is a laptop runnign windows08:18
vultairekameron: /dev/hda1/media/win_cntfsro,umask=02220008:18
Diablo69my other is a desktop right nesxt to me08:18
Diablo69btw08:19
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Diablo69it just said08:19
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aftertafDiablo69:  what cd did you download to install your ubuntu?08:19
Kr0ntabslashx1896, enabling DMA will speed up the ripping... playing ... and overall CPU utilization.08:19
Diablo69[429495.510000]  <0> Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt08:19
SpecialBuddyhow do I use two monitors08:20
Diablo69I used the newest iso version for i8608:20
SpecialBuddy?08:20
SpecialBuddyor just one08:20
aftertafDiablo69:  ok, thats not nice of it ;) newest? was it called breezy or 5.10 ?08:20
kameronvultaire: when did things change over from being mounted in /mnt to /media?08:20
Diablo695.10 I tank08:20
slashx1896alrite i enabled it, where i typed the command it said 3 or 4 lines like dma [on]  or w/e but its not done yet08:20
slashx1896nvm its done08:20
slashx1896and its enablaed08:21
Kr0ntabslashx1896, you should also take a look at /etc/hdparm.conf        coool08:21
drvijuhow to check DMA?08:21
aftertafDiablo69:  ok, do you see any other kernels availabe in that list (when you press ESC), or just 2 entries (one with recovery mode) ?08:21
vultairekameron: dunno; I've always done mnt but breezy does media, and I didn't argue with it08:21
Diablo69yes08:21
Diablo69just 2 entries08:21
Kr0ntabsudo /dev/hdparm /dev/hdX08:21
kameronvaultaire: heh, same with me.08:21
aftertafDiablo69:  argh ok.08:21
slashx1896kr0ntab, whats that?08:21
Kr0ntabdrviju, that was directed to you08:22
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aftertafDiablo69:  i would recommend you getting the dapper flight 2 cd, its unstable, officially, but relatively stable to use.....08:22
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slashx1896ah08:22
kameronvultaire: perfect, your line worked for me. thanks a lot.08:22
vultairekameron: happy to help08:22
Kr0ntabslashx1896, the hdparm.conf file... check it out....   when you reboot... your dma setting will be gone.   you can set it to turn dma on within that file.08:22
kameronvultaire: /dev/hdb5       /media/ntfs     ntfs    ro,umask=0222   0       008:23
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Satanoy sorry aftertaf08:23
kameronvultaire: it's hard to remember those little things. namely.. ro,umask=022208:23
Satanthis box sucks08:23
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Kr0ntabslashx1896, hows that directory listing08:23
drvijucommand not found08:23
aftertafDiablo69:  however, you *could/* have a duff ubuntu CD or some hardware problem08:23
Satanbut yes I only see 2 kernels with a memtest below it08:23
rexSatan: How much does it suck?08:23
Kr0ntabdrviju, im retarded...08:23
Satanvery much08:23
aftertaflol08:23
Kr0ntabmajor typo08:23
slashx1896im at almost 2gig08:23
slashx1896and my dvd is like 9gig08:23
Kr0ntabsudo hdparm /dev/hdX08:24
aftertafSatan:   i would recommend you getting the dapper flight 2 cd, its unstable, officially, but relatively stable to use.....08:24
vultairekameron: I remember that one -real- well, I've done lots of dual boot configs trying out different distros, and that was a pain in the ass to set up initially08:24
Satancan you give me a link pleaz08:24
kameronvultaire: heh, probably.08:24
Kr0ntabwhere hdX is the device you're checking   i.e.    hda   or hdb08:24
aftertafoki.    any preference between gnome and kde ?08:24
drvijudoes ubuntu require firewall?08:24
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aftertafdrviju:  no.08:24
aftertafdrviju:  unless you specifically enable some network service and want to hide it from some other network08:24
slashx1896kr0ntab, so yeah im at 2.0/7.9 gigs08:25
kameronvultaire: get ps working the way you wanted?08:25
drvijuis it safe to do surf,other activities?08:25
vultairekameron: yeah, works great, thx08:25
kameronvultaire: cool. there's another prog that people like to use, it displays pids, among other things: top08:25
Kr0ntablike that watch command?   otherwise... you'd have to keep typing ls -lht   which would get boring.08:25
aftertafdrviju:  totally. nothing is actually open by default, not like windows.. linux is a solid oak door with a moat around it. Windows is a greenhouse ;)08:25
Kr0ntabhehe08:25
slashx1896kr0ntab, after its done backing up how long would it take to burn to a new dvd?08:25
drvijuthanks08:26
Kr0ntabagain depends on size and speed of drive....   you have adual layer dvd burner?08:26
slashx1896idk if i do or not.. people asked me that , how do i find out08:26
Satanversino 6.04 right @ aftertaf08:26
Satanversion*08:26
drvijuthis is very cool i  ues it first ime this is killer foe bill gates!!08:26
Satanwhat are the odds of this fixing my problem08:27
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Satanwith hotplug08:27
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vultairekameron: forgot about that one, thx08:27
kameronvultaire: werd08:27
aftertafSatan:  yeah 6.04    http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html08:27
BeleysBjour08:27
aftertafSatan:  for hotplug? i'd say about 50000% chance ;)08:27
aftertafSatan:  cos there is no hotplug in dapper ;)08:27
Satanso it shoudl run fine on my box08:27
deFrysk:)08:27
slashx1896what is dual-layer and single-layer and how do i find out what i have?08:28
aftertafSatan:  should just work(tm)08:28
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aftertafslashx1896:  4.3 vs 8.6 gb dvd08:28
Kr0ntabslashx1896, dual layer means that you can use dual layer dvd media....   max capacity just under 9 gigs....08:28
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vultaireslashx1896: single layer is 4.7gb actually08:29
kameron!tell kameron about kde08:29
deFrysksingle layer are soo much cheaper08:29
rexDual layer MEDIA is crazy expensive.08:29
slashx1896like how expensive? lol08:29
vultaireyeah, unless you're doing copies of 3 hour movies, stick to single08:29
Badm4nwhat is the packages name of HTB ?08:30
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slashx1896i prob got single08:30
DivGradCurlGreets.08:30
slashx1896vultaire, yeah the avg movie i watch and wanna copie is 2hr08:30
Kr0ntabslashx1896, I have a single layer too... but dual layers are really getting cheap....08:31
rexHello, DivGradCurl, your name scares me because it reminds me of Calc III last semseter.08:31
DespenHow do a change keyboard mapping in for a terminal session? I need to change from swedish keyboard layout to US keyboard olayout to get dosbox to work08:31
Kr0ntabif you have a longer movie.... then you might run into a situation where the rip will not fit on yer 4.7 disc08:31
DivGradCurlHeh, sorry to hear that Rex.08:31
vultaireyeah... my 4.7gb discs say 120min on them08:32
slashx1896The movie im burning rite now is 1hr 35min08:32
aftertafvultaire:  hehe thx (i have had a dvd burner for 1 week) ;)08:32
slashx1896i mean makinbackups for08:32
DivGradCurlIf it makes you feel any better, it only gets worse once you start applying it to Physics.08:32
Kr0ntabslashx1896, but thats ok....   I rip dvd's with dvdbackup.... run dvdshrink with wine... dvdshrink compresses the disc down to 4.7...  and burn the ISO with growisofs....08:32
rexDivGradCurl: that's next semester... by which I mean in a few days (monday)08:32
DivGradCurlWhich one?08:32
DivGradCurlIf it is E&M, run!08:33
slashx1896kr0ntab, thats what im gonnab e doing except the howto says with k3b not growisofs08:33
rexNo, just intro physics for engineers or something like that.08:33
Kr0ntabk3b will do just fine....08:33
slashx1896i know08:33
aftertafSatan:  i know its a pain, but stick with it ;) it's worth it..08:33
Kr0ntabslashx1896, burning a dvd iso is easy though... from command line.....08:33
vultaireoh, you guys made me think of a good question: are firmware updates a pain to do under Linux?  I'm waiting for my dvd burner to support ritek 16x dvd+r's, and the patches are of course in exe format08:33
DivGradCurl...  ahh, Newtonian.  That really sucks.08:34
vultairedunno if wine would run them proper or no, sounds kinda risky08:34
aftertafvultaire:  the joys of wine ?? ;)08:34
slashx1896im just using a Lazy DVD backup HOWTO lol08:34
Badm4nhello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ?08:34
rexDivGradCurl: I'll let you know in a few weeks ;)08:34
Kr0ntabslashx1896,   the command is      "sudo growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/image.iso"08:34
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kameronanyone use vlc?08:35
slashx1896So theres prob no chance of me being finished in 6 hrs? and me sleeping... lol08:35
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DivGradCurlDoes anyone know how to boot to a specific partition once in rescue mode? (I believe the term is "boot to a specific kernel", but am not certain)08:36
Zaq_unkwnhey guys i need some help08:36
Kr0ntabslashx1896, I've burned two movies in the past 2 hours...08:36
Zaq_unkwni burnt the ubuntu cd but my cd drive doesnt read it on boot up08:36
slashx1896its 2:35 and i gotta wake up 8-9 and i need to go to sleep real soon08:36
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DivGradCurlZaq: I'm very very new to this, but have spent a lot of time trying to figure out booting stuff.08:37
moodogMorning all.08:37
Kr0ntab15-20 mins for the rip...30-40 mins for the burn... 10 minutes for dvdshrink to compress the movie into an ISO...08:37
DivGradCurlZaq:  Something called "Smart Boot Manager" can help you boot to a CD device if your BIOS is being a pain.08:37
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Zaq_unkwnheh, surprising the olf cd 5.04 boots fine but fails installation midway08:37
Slaj_RQuestion -- Synaptic only shows 2.2.6 as the latest version of lilypond, when I know there's a version 2.6.  What's the best way to upgrade?08:37
slashx1896rip=backup?08:37
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Kr0ntabuhhh yeah08:38
slashx1896k08:38
Badm4n:(08:38
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Zaq_unkwni will try again later, gotta sleep now08:38
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slashx1896well its at 3.7g rite now08:38
Badm4nhello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ? need help08:38
Badm4n!HTB08:38
ubotuBadm4n: I give up, what is it?08:38
Badm4n!htb08:38
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, Badm4n08:38
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Badm4nubotu tell me about htb08:38
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kameronwhat video players have wmv support in linux? seems vlc doesn't do it on linux.08:38
DivGradCurlHmmm, anybody know about booting once in Rescue mode?08:39
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Kr0ntabkameron, mplayer and xine.... among others08:39
trappist!tell kameron about w32codecs08:39
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slashx1896well im gonna go lay down for 20 mins.. if i dont come back i fell asleep lol08:41
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Kr0ntabslashx1896, cool.    peace.08:41
slashx1896later all,t hanks for all the help08:41
slashx1896thanks*08:41
Kr0ntabnp08:41
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compubombis it possible to update 3.1 with ubuntu packages ?08:42
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compubombsuch as getting the newest kernel ?08:42
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Storkin linux, can you do command | command2 for both of those commands to be excecuted in order?08:43
compubombStork: no08:43
compubombcommand1; command2; command308:44
compubombthat way08:44
compubombcommand | pushes output into another command08:44
compubombpipe redirects output08:44
crimsunif there are dependencies between command1 and command[23] , then you should use && instead.08:44
BlackJudasIs there an equivalent to packages.debian.org for ubuntu?08:44
crimsunBlackJudas: p.u.c.08:44
BlackJudascrimsun, thanks, simple enough :)08:45
aftertafcompubomb:  3.1 ?08:45
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compubombaftertaf: yes08:45
aftertaf3.1 what... ;)08:46
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compubombaftertaf: my friend's host only offers 3.1 iso's08:46
compubombdebian 3.108:46
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pulaskihello08:46
crimsuncompubomb: you'd need to cross-grade to Breezy, and it's not officially supported, but it's possible.08:46
compubombi wanted to know if you can install ubuntu packages or if they have a compatible package repository for debian 3.108:46
aftertafcompubomb:  cant really mix them iirc, but crossgrade yeah08:47
aftertafcompubomb:  or you go to edge and get unstable for those packages, could be risky too08:47
vultairequestion: I've heard there there's stuff available now that has halfway reliable ntfs writing support, does anyone know about this?08:47
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aftertafvultaire:  captive does that, but whether it's safe 100% is not sure imho08:48
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afd_hi guys! Everytime I start gnome updatedb starts trashing the disks. How can I make this behaviour stop?08:48
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ploomisnt updatedb run by anarchron or smthing?08:49
aftertafhi pulaski :)08:50
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ploomi mean, it should run even without gnome08:50
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DivGradCurlOkay, is there a more appropriate room to ask about using rescue mode to boot a previous install?08:51
aftertafDivGradCurl:  cant you choose it in grub on boot time ?08:52
triceratopsDoes anybody knopw how to have web lookup for online dictionaries like dict.leo.org in dict-applet 2.13.4 as it was in the former versions?08:52
DivGradCurlNo, I need to launch it from the rescue mode using the install CD.08:52
aftertafahhh. what do you neec to do?08:53
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DivGradCurlThe overarching goal is a bit complex, but the basic result is dealing with how to boot from a USB device when USB booting (and therefore USB recognition) isn't supported by the BIOS.08:53
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DivGradCurl'cept having a locally installed Grub doesn't help, because in my experience grub kicks in directly after the BIOS.08:54
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DivGradCurlThe idea being that hopefully once rescue mode (via an install cd) has kicked in w/ all its scanning and recognition it can boot just dandy.08:54
UncleDI added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and now my machine freezes on bootup when Loading modules.. any suggestions?08:54
DivGradCurlIt certainly is possible to use rescue mode to log in as root and edit files on the external, so it DOES recognize externals and therefore seems the best avenue of investigation.08:55
pulaskiI've been enjoying ubuntu 5.10 Breezy for a couple of days.  Has anyone here experienced trouble with the pnm2ppa ppd drivers for the HP "winprinters".  My 5.10 knew what my hp722c was and it seemed to have a lot of the foomatic- eries of supporting files but cups is crippled, "for security reasons" and who knows what print manager is doing?08:55
UncleDHow can I force breezy to skip through08:55
UncleDLoading modules..08:55
UncleDon bootup so i can remove the ndiswrapper from it08:55
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DivGradCurlSo, if I can only learn how to boot into an install once in rescue mode, than I've solved how to boot into USB devices regardless of whether the BIOS has the capability (although it is a mighty tedious solution).08:57
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triceratopsUncleD: start breezy in recovery mode.08:57
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DivGradCurlaftertaf: Any ideas how to do that?  Getting to rescue mode is easy, but after that I have no idea what to do.08:58
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pulaskiI don't know if the recommended (suggested) pnm2ppa driver was ever successfully installed.  My printer doesn't resopond to jobs in its queque.  How can I tell if the driver is installed correctly?08:58
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triceratopsUncleD: Or start from a live-cd. Mount the partition where the config file is sved. Edit the config file. Anfter this reboot the system08:58
aftertafDivGradCurl:  no idea ... :/08:58
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knoppixstupid bootloader. how can i install lilo to the mbr, grub simply isn't doing the trick on my mobo.08:59
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finnan#ubuntu08:59
aftertafapt-get ;)08:59
aftertafkameron:  ^08:59
pulaskifunny knoppix, I just forsake lilo for grub and the grub.conf file is nowhere to be found.08:59
kameronaftertaf: i can't boot to ubuntu, i'm on knoppix right now.09:00
DivGradCurlaftertaf:  Any idea where to look?  I've scoured the web for solutions and, if claims can be believed, this issue has been addressed for many other distributions but not for Ubuntu.09:00
triceratopspulaski: Start update-grub. It should do the job09:00
Amaranthkameron: chroot09:00
pulaskithants triceratpos09:01
kameronAmaranth, chroot what?09:01
Amaranthkameron: chroot into the ubuntu system, then use apt-get09:01
pulaskiI did get about 42 packages today when I got my sources.list sorted out.09:01
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DivGradCurlaftertaf:  But it can't be that damned impossible to boot into a partition once rescue mode is running.  I mean, you can manipulate files among other abilities.09:01
kameronhow do i do that amaranth?09:01
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GanjhiHi, I downloaded the w32 codecs and was wondering how I would go abouts installing them?09:02
Amaranth!w32codecs09:02
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install09:02
aftertafDivGradCurl:  i agree, but i don't know how to help with that ..... :(09:02
DivGradCurlThe only other way to do it would be to force a bunch of drivers and scans to be done *before* a grub activates, which seems far more complex.09:02
pulaskioh I see, update-grub alone ... perhaps, thanks triceropts.09:02
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GanjhiAmaranth Ubuntubot didn't send me anything :(09:03
Ganjhinevermind09:03
UncleDhow do I boot up in recovery mode (w/ breezy?)09:03
Amaranthkameron: chroot /dev/hdX909:03
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DivGradCurlHeh, okay.  I'll continue to scour Rescue documentation, I guess.09:03
GanjhiWell- I actually do have the codecs for Ubuntu09:03
Amaranthkameron: afaik09:03
Ganjhiftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/09:03
Ganjhihttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/09:04
UncleDaha figured it out09:04
UncleDnm09:04
pulaskiUncleD, my grub bootloader offers that boot to recovery mode option.  Does yours?09:04
UncleDyea i did the grub thing09:04
UncleDit worked.09:04
UncleDMan im having the worst time getting my machine online using ndiswrapper.09:04
UncleD;\09:04
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finnanubuntulog09:04
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triceratopsUncleD: If you have a look at the grub menu you will find two lines for every kernel which is installed. The first line is fore regular boot, the second for recovery. Move down to the second line with hte down key and press enter.09:05
LemLapLinhaving some trouble getting my wireless working under breezy, can anyone help me?09:05
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MrPocketshow hard is it to get a new logon screen?09:05
pulaskianother improvement of grub over lilo09:06
UncleDtriceratops: my recovery mode even froze. it stopped loading after a line that said ,3> ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1534) loadndiswrapper failed(11); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'09:06
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lostar148i am trying to get 3d acceleration working i cant figure out the problem here is my xorg.conf  http://home.insightbb.com/~chrisbaird2/xorg.txt and here is my Glxinfo  http://home.insightbb.com/~chrisbaird2/glxinfo.txt09:07
kameronAmaranth: i tried chroot to /dev/hda1 and /mnt/hda1 where it's mounted, both had erros. when i tried dev/hda1: chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hda1: Not a directory, and /mnt/hda1: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error09:07
pulaskithanks for the update-grub tip triceratops09:08
pulaskigood night ...09:08
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cylehi i'm looking to get involved in ubuntu package managing/bug fixing and don't know where to start or who to talk to09:08
triceratopsMrPockets: Quite easy. 1. Start gdm-config via 'sudo gdm-config'. There you will find a tab which shows available login themes. New themes which haven't been installed can be added via drag'n'drop.09:08
Amaranthkameron: let me guess: amd64 ubuntu and x86 knoppix09:08
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specialbuddyhello09:08
MrPocketsthank you VERY VERY Much09:08
kameronamaranth: yes09:08
Amaranthkameron: you need the amd64 ubuntu live cd09:08
UncleDtriceratops: any idea?09:09
kameronamaranth: will reboot to it, br09:09
kameronbrb09:09
Amaranthkameron: or and amd64 live cd09:09
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UncleDheh.. im just going to reinstall ubuntu09:09
UncleDif i cant get past this ndiswrapper thingy09:09
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UncleDi dont have a livecd handy09:09
UncleDso reinstalling breezy is faster than downloading livecd.09:09
triceratopsMrPockets: 2. Using dapper there is a application named gnome-art which does the install of various art related things.09:09
MrPocketstriceratops,  "command not found09:09
GanjhiI'm having a weird problem, I'm trying to create a folder in usr/local/lib and it says I am not the owner so I can't change the write permissions and cannot create a folder... but I am the owner of this machine :@09:10
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triceratopsUncleD: Hhhm. so you will have to boot from a live-cd...09:10
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UncleDGanjhi: try sudo mkdir09:10
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specialbuddyhey09:11
UncleDtriceratop; im reinstalling ubuntu, fuck it.09:11
UncleDi cant download a livecd faster then i can reinstlal the o/s09:11
LemLapLinyeah i'm thinking i might have to do that09:11
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triceratopsMr_Milenko: Pardon me. It should be 'sudo gdmsetup'09:11
MrPocketstriceratops, how do i get this dapper?09:11
Mr_Milenkouhm09:11
triceratopsMrPockets:  Pardon me. It should be 'sudo gdmsetup'09:11
Mr_Milenkohuh?09:11
specialbuddyif I reinstall ubuntu with another monitor hooked up, will it find that monitor?09:11
Mr_Milenkorofl09:11
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MrPocketsaht that did the trick09:12
specialbuddyanyone?09:12
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triceratopsMrPockets: Dapper is the next Ubuntu Version. In the moment it is strongly recommended to be used by very skilled GNU/Linux users. It is in a persistent developing state.09:13
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GanjhiAnother crummy problem with Write permissions, I'm trying to extract some files into the newly created directory, and it says I don't have the write permissions.09:13
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DivGradCurlspecialbuddy: I've extremely new, but I'm pretty sure that if you want to test the monitor-finding-abilities of Ubuntu, a Live CD is a good place to start.09:13
LemLapLincome on someone please help me with my wireless problem09:13
tonyyarussoWhat sorts of things about gdm could prevent console switching from working?09:13
tonyyarusso(Configuration or changes, it worked before.)09:13
triceratopsMrPockets: s/to be used/to be used only/09:13
specialbuddywell I already have it on my computer09:13
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specialbuddythe problem is I want to use another monitor like I can in windows but I don't know how09:14
kameronamaranth: im back, on amd64 live cd09:14
Amaranthkameron: ok09:14
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Amaranthkameron: does chroot work now?09:14
GanjhiHow can I extract a file while getting around the write permissions?09:14
DivGradCurlspecialbuddy:  You mean, like two monitors at once?  If so, I have no clue.  Sorry.09:14
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ploomany ideas how many more flight-discs it will take to really almost-safely just update to dapper (eg change "breezy" to "dapper" in apt.config)??09:14
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specialbuddyyeah that's what I mean09:15
specialbuddythanks for the try09:15
NickZAHi, can anyone tell me what the port number is to connect to an exchange server with Evolution ?09:15
smospecialbuddy, I don't think it'll do it automatically.  what video card you using ?09:15
mllranyone want free goodies, check out swedal.servebeer.com login: andy  password: andy12309:15
triceratopstonyyarusso: You may add a line 'Option "DontZap"' under 'Section "ServerFlags"'09:15
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mllrgnu linux stuff.09:16
specialbuddywell it's on a laptop09:16
tonyyarussotriceratops, What?09:16
Kr0ntabsup tonyyarusso09:16
specialbuddyso it's like a intel extreme something09:16
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hydroksydehmmm... 64MB of RAM really isn't enough for desktop linux09:16
LemLapLinsomeone please help me i really need to get this wireless working09:16
tonyyarussoKr0ntab, Last ditch attempts to figure out if I can fix some things.09:16
tonyyarussoKr0ntab, You?09:16
LemLapLinthis whole install is pointless if i can't09:16
smospecialbuddy, I've only used nvidia's dualhead support, but what you're looking for is xinerama .. should be some good google-fodder09:17
MrPocketsnext Q,  when you hit the LOCK button, is there a way i can get it to go to the logon screen instead of screen saver?09:17
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LemLapLinubuntu auo detected it and installed the drivers for it but i can't seem to connect to the network09:17
Kr0ntabhalf asleep09:17
Kr0ntabhehe09:17
kameronamaranth: worked. what do i do now?09:17
smo(nvidia being a special case because you use their drivers' TwinView stuff rather than X's xinerama support)09:17
NickZAHi, can anyone tell me what the port number is to connect to an MS exchange server with Evolution ?09:17
Kr0ntabport 8009:17
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Kr0ntabNickZA,09:17
specialbuddyI tried that and messed it up somehow and now I can onlu use X09:18
Kr0ntabit uses OWA as it's "exchange" protocol communication09:18
NickZAKr0ntab, tried that lemme check again09:18
GanjhiHow do I extract a file and get around the write permissions?09:18
triceratopstonyyarusso: Add  a line 'Option "DontZap"' under 'Section "ServerFlags"' in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file09:18
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hydroksydecan I set this ubuntu update notification thing to only bug me for security updates?09:19
MrPocketswhat was that command again triceratops09:19
tonyyarussotriceratops, And what exactly does that do?09:19
MrPocketsnvm09:19
Kr0ntabNickZA, for your URL... you probably need to specify "http://mailserver.domain.com/exchange"09:19
NickZAKr0ntab, got it working now, thanks :)09:19
Kr0ntabnp09:19
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kairu0hey all09:20
Kr0ntabNickZA, ... you should also think about using SSL (HTTPS)... as yer passwords and mail can be seen in clear text....09:20
Kr0ntabthen you just change yer URL to reflect https....09:21
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triceratopstonyyarusso: Prevent the use of Ctrl+alt+Fn1-12 to work09:21
DivGradCurlQuestion:  Okay, I've refined, altered, and simplified my question a bit.  I'm at a shell prompt with my desired partition mounted as root.  Now how to I get into the GUI (or whatever it is that I boot into after powering a normal ubuntu computer on and letting it use the default on the grub menu)?09:21
markusishello09:22
tonyyarussotriceratops, I'm trying to get that TO work.09:22
kairu0i have a problem with popping noises coming out of my speakers and it only happens when i am using my network card. any ideas?09:22
aftertafDivGradCurl:  try startx09:22
LemLapLincome on someone please help me with my wireless09:23
triceratopstonyyarusso: Ohh, misunderstood your question, pardon me. So is ther such a line in your xorg.conf? If yes put a # in front of it to comment it out.09:23
DivGradCurlsh-3.00# startx09:23
DivGradCurlsh: startx: command not found09:23
markusiswhat seems to be the problem -lemlaplin09:24
tonyyarussotriceratops, No, there is not.09:24
LemLapLincan't get it to connect to my ap09:24
GanjhiHow do I extract a file without write permissions??09:24
specialbuddyhow do you start up kde from shell09:24
specialbuddy?09:25
LemLapLincard is built into a toshiba portege 2000 but is orinoco based afaik09:25
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triceratopstonyyarusso: Hhm, so what happens if you press Ctrl+Alt#Ff1? Nothing at all?09:25
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liablespecialbuddy: startx startkde09:25
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markusiswhat the hell are you talking about..wala man ko kablo ana09:25
LemLapLindoes the wep key need to be in AA:BB:CC format or just aabbcc?09:25
tonyyarussotriceratops, Not a thing.  However, if I stop gdm, and just startx from the console without it, it works.09:25
DivGradCurlaftertaf: Following the external install instructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811) I can even take it into "root@ubuntu:/#".09:26
specialbuddyI have to say both?09:26
liableyes09:26
specialbuddythanks09:26
triceratopstonyyarusso: Strange indeed. Which Ubuntu Version ar you using?09:26
blue-frogLemLapLin, from system>administration>network  aabbcc is fine09:26
aftertafDivGradCurl:  nice one :)09:26
tonyyarussotriceratops, Breezy.09:26
DivGradCurlaftertaf: So, a way from either that mode or the shell mode?09:26
aftertafto do the usb boot thing? i dont know...09:27
LemLapLinok now i have an even weired problem09:27
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LemLapLini can't get to the desktop in terminal09:27
tonyyarussotriceratops, It worked fine previously in both Hoary and Breezy, but something happened.09:27
polpakvictory is mine!09:27
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LemLapLinwhen i type desktop it says the location doesn't exist09:27
polpakLemLapLin: cd ~/Desktop09:27
polpakLemLapLin: with a capital D09:27
LemLapLinah ok09:27
Amaranthkameron: dunno if you figured it out yet, but in the chroot you can use apt-get09:27
LemLapLinthanks09:27
triceratopstonyyarusso: Did it work before on this particulare machine?09:27
timfrostGanjhi, run the extract command using sudo: (eg: sudo tar xvf file.tar' ).  Why don't you have write permissions?09:28
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tonyyarussotriceratops, Yes.09:28
Badm4n-AFKhello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ? need help09:28
aftertafwhat is HTB ?09:28
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kameronamaranth: yes, i did that, and ran liloconfig, and got an error.. wasn't sure if it wrote or not. then i rebooted to see if i could boot, and grub was still installed, and for some reason let me boot, so i'm back on ubuntu, but i'd like to switch over to lilo, running liloconfig again.09:28
DivGradCurlaftertaf: Well, at that point it is already pretending that it is root on the proper usb partition.  That's the beauty behind DaBruGo's suggestion to use Rescue mode, which as far as I can tell just scans the hell out of things and then let's you pick a partition as root followed by opening a shell.09:28
triceratopstonyyarusso: Did you change the login manager? May be from gdm to kdm and back before?09:28
GanjhiBecause I'm using two NTSF hd's and I have a 7GB partition for Ubuntu09:28
arrikso, i tried to install java, made the symbolic links in the correct directories, but java still won't work.  and yes, it's enabled in the browser, any ideas?09:28
kameronamaranth: chroot is a cool command, i've never used it before, but it changes your $PATH and everything, very handy.09:29
polpakkameron: is there a reason you want to use lilo and not grub?09:29
DivGradCurlaftertaf:  But beyond following his instruction's, I'm at a loss for how to make Ubuntu behave normally.09:29
tonyyarussotriceratops, Nope.09:29
GanjhiFor some reason when I download the archive, it doesn't even show up anymore, just says it's downloaded in half a second flat...09:29
Badm4n-AFKhello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ( Hierachical Token Bucket ) ? need help09:29
LemLapLinso can anyone help me with this wireless problem?09:29
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Badm4n-AFKlike a cbq09:29
kameronpolpak: ive had many other distros installed on this amd64, and lilo always worked great. grub mostly drops me into that minimal bash shell, and i don't know how to use it. it's like 1 in 10 i get the boot menu, and i don't know why.09:29
triceratopstonyyarusso: Any update of gdm in the past?09:29
LemLapLinI know it works under windows so it's not a hardware problem09:29
blue-frogLemLapLin, from system>administration>network  aabbcc is fine09:30
LemLapLinis it going to matter that i have the card disabled under windows?09:30
blue-frogno09:30
kameronpolpak: it doesn't like my board or something. my friend has amd64, nearly identical system, except different mobo, and grub works fine for me.09:30
kameronpolpak: for him, i mean.09:30
LemLapLinok09:30
LemLapLinwell i have it all set up as it should be09:30
tonyyarussotriceratops, If something new appeared in the repos and that was done automatically, then yes, but I haven't done so intentionally.09:30
arrikAnyone know how to get java working in firefox 1.5?09:30
LemLapLinso anything i can do to check if it's working locally?09:30
blue-frogLemLapLin, did u activate it?09:31
MrPocketshey triceratops, what about splash screens?09:31
GanjhiTimFrost; where does it extract the files to with that command?09:31
LemLapLinyeah i did09:31
blue-frogLemLapLin, what's its IP09:31
GanjhiAH, just home folder, okay.09:31
triceratopstonyyarusso: Did you change your keyboard settings from the menu: System -> Settings -> Keyboard?09:31
LemLapLinit's not getting one09:32
LemLapLinit should be dhcp09:32
timfrostGanjhi, where are you trying to write to?  The NTFS partitions will be read-only from Ubuntu, because there isn't a guaranteed NTFS filesystem driver for Linux (MS proprieatary;(09:32
LemLapLinap does dhcp09:32
blue-frogLemLapLin, is your access point dhcp?09:32
LemLapLinand the ap says it's not connected09:32
LemLapLinyes09:32
Badm4n-AFKhello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ( Hierachical Token Bucket ) like a cbq ? need help urgent09:32
kameronpolpak, amaranth, seems that lilo was correctly installed this time, i'll reboot and see if all is good. but with my luck, i'll probably be back on live cd trying to figure out why it didn't work :P09:32
triceratopsMrPockets: How to instell new ones?09:32
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blue-frogLemLapLin, starting my laptop09:32
polpakI can't believe I got it working09:33
MrPocketsyes09:33
MrPocketsits just a matter of placing a jpg somewhere, isnt it?09:33
timfrostGanjhi, the tar command wil extract under the cuurent directory, unless the archive has file names that start with '/'.  Check that with 'tar tvf file.tar'09:33
arrikAnyone know how to get java working in firefox 1.5?09:33
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tonyyarussotriceratops, I did once, but then put them back.  Can you explain how that could impact this?  (btw, I know the keys are registering, because I can set Ctrl-Alt-F# as a shortcut in the System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts)09:33
Amarantharrik: the same way you do for firefox 1.0.x09:34
triceratopsMrPockets: Have a look at http://art.gnome.org/faq.php09:34
arrikAmaranth: yea, i went through all the install steps, made the links in the right directories but it's still not working for some reason09:34
blue-frogLemLapLin, open syste,>administration>network09:35
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triceratopstonyyarusso: Not exactly, sorry. But changing login managers tend to show weird behaviours from time to time09:35
mllrswedal.servebeer.com l: andy p: andy12309:36
tonyyarussotriceratops, Ah.  Well, brainstorming possibilities is always good.09:36
LemLapLindone09:36
LemLapLinwhat now?09:36
triceratopstonyyarusso: May be it will help to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' and switch again to kdm and back to gdm..09:36
blue-frogLemLapLin, in connection tab what do u have?09:37
tonyyarussotriceratops, I don't have kdm...  (I've also already tried the dpkg-reconfigure, it gave some error which I don't remember.)09:37
fekcould anybody tell me, how i could downgrade xorg with their xorg-drivers?09:37
LemLapLinwireless eth109:37
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LemLapLinwired eth009:37
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LemLapLinand pppo for modem09:37
LemLapLinppp0 even09:37
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blue-frogeth1 is active correct?09:38
kameronerrr09:38
LemLapLinno eth0 is09:38
triceratopstonyyarusso: Also a /etc/init.d/gdm restart' may hekp. But for this you need a console working, what isn't in your case...09:38
blue-frogLemLapLin, is eth1 inactive then?09:38
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LemLapLinsorry eth1 is active09:38
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LemLapLinbut eth0 is default gateway09:38
blue-frogLemLapLin, ok click on it and click properties09:38
tonyyarussotriceratops, I can however stop it with that, and then restart, but that doesn't help.09:38
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LemLapLindone09:39
veritasGuys.09:39
veritasHow do I run a pearl script09:39
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fekhow do i downgrade special packages from breezy to hoary?09:39
triceratopstonyyarusso: Could you login via ssh from an other machine? You will be able to do a 'etc/init.d/gdm restart'from there09:39
blue-frogLemLapLin, eth1 enable connection is checked, in network name essid what do u have?09:39
NickZAsilly question, evolution doesnt seem to have a way to set a default signature forcing you to always select one from the drop down, any way to set a default ?09:40
LemLapLinis enabled09:40
tonyyarussotriceratops, Not with where the computer is right now, but some other time I could.09:40
triceratopstonyyarusso: Tried a 'Ctrl+Alt+BS' when gdm is up?09:40
LemLapLinand the ssid is the same as what is set on the ap09:40
tonyyarussotriceratops, BS?09:40
timfrostveritas, 'perl script.pl' if script.pl is the script name09:40
tonyyarussotriceratops, Oh, backspace.09:40
tonyyarussotriceratops, Yeah, I've done that.09:40
blue-frogLemLapLin, wep has stars for the password?09:40
triceratopstonyyarusso: BS = BackSpace Key09:40
LemLapLinindeed it does09:40
veritasthanks timfrost09:40
blue-frogLemLapLin, configuration choose static09:41
blue-frogLemLapLin, assign it an IP in IP address09:41
LemLapLindone09:41
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blue-frogLemLapLin, click ok to go back to connection tab09:41
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Toma-anyone tried ubuntu lite before?09:42
triceratopstonyyarusso: A brute force way would be 'apt-get -purge remove gdm' and 'apt-get install gdm' afterwards09:42
NickZAsilly question, evolution doesnt seem to have a way to set a default signature forcing you to always select one from the drop down, any way to set a default ?09:42
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tonyyarussotriceratops, Okay, will try that.09:43
tonyyarussoLater.09:43
fekwhen i use this howto. i'll get this message: E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header09:43
triceratopstonyyarusso: :-)09:43
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feki did it exactly like in that howto09:43
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kameronamaranth: having troubles installing lilo.09:43
Amaranthkameron: i've never done it, sorry09:44
tristanhi09:44
kameronamaranth: okay, thanks09:44
Amaranthwhen debian had lilo i was getting grub installed :P09:44
kameronanyone installed lilo on ubuntu before?09:44
tristanAnyone knows of a program that can join videos?09:44
blue-frogLemLapLin, deactivate wired connection and make sure wifi is activated and click ok09:44
tristankameron : no sorry I have GRUB09:44
raghu!lilo09:44
uboturaghu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:44
fekhello?!09:45
timfrostfek, what howto? what are you trying to do?09:45
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Kiwi___Does gksu work on ubuntu ? or only gnome-sudo09:46
fektimfrost: my xorg is b0rken, because i did last day an upgrade to breezy and i'll want to downgrade tie i810-driver to the old one...09:46
rikai-2anyone know a decent temp for how hot an amp athlon should run?09:46
blue-frogLemLapLin, is your wifi working with a static address?09:46
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timfrost!pin09:47
ubotutimfrost: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:47
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rikai*amd09:47
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LemLapLinsubnetmask is 255.255.255.009:48
LemLapLingateway is the modem09:48
LemLapLinseems to have connected now09:48
LemLapLinactually cancel that09:48
KeeganX.09:48
LemLapLinwon't ping the touter09:48
LemLapLinrouter09:48
Kiwi___Does gksu work on ubuntu ? or only gnome-sudo?09:48
timfrostfek, what HOWTO?09:48
fek!pinning09:48
ubotu[pinning]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto09:48
blue-frogLemLapLin, gateway is the router not the modem09:48
fekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DowngradeHowto?highlight=%28downgrade%2909:48
fekthis one09:48
fek!downgrade09:48
ubotuI haven't a clue, fek09:48
LemLapLinmodem is the router here09:48
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LemLapLinhaving the wireless and wired activated at the same time killed the network09:49
darkritualhouston09:49
darkritualwe have a prolem09:49
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blue-frogLemLapLin, deactivate wired connection and make sure wifi is activated and click ok09:49
LemLapLinwill disable the wired and then put the wireless on and try it again09:49
LemLapLinyeah i will09:49
LemLapLini do kinda need the wireless to work with DHCP though09:49
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blue-frogLemLapLin, make sure sure it works with static, then u can have a look at dhcp09:50
LemLapLinok one sec09:50
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kameronbah. im going to go on my other linux box, copy the lilo.conf, and apply it on this comp.09:52
timfrostfek,  yur inuitial comment indicates that you didn't write the pin correctly.09:52
Kiwi___last time ,, Does gksu work on ubuntu ? or only gnome-sudo09:52
blue-frogKibou, gksudo09:53
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blue-frogKiwi___, gksudo09:53
tristanAnyone knows of a program that can join videos?09:53
fektimfrost: i copied&pasted it from the howto!09:53
gandalf_the_whithello all09:53
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Kiwi___blue=frog: gksuo wont work at all?09:53
Kiwi___blue-frog09:54
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blue-frogKiwi___, i don't know u tell me09:54
aftertaftristan:  get mplayer and mencoder09:54
darkritualSome one knows howto mount hdb/mp3 to /home/darkritual/mp3?'09:54
gandalf_the_whittristian do a "cat 1.mpg 2.mpg 3.mpg > the_new.mpg09:54
polpakKiwi___: gksudo works normally09:54
gandalf_the_whitthis works for mpg files09:54
timfrostKiwi___, gksudo is available (gksu won't work, because there isn't a root password by default on ubuntu)09:54
aftertafand look for other avi tools in synaptic, there is avimerge which ive used ok.09:54
LemLapLinis it working09:54
blue-frogKiwi___, as root passwd is disabled gksu can't work09:54
tristangandalf_the_whit : would it work for rmvb files.....?09:54
LemLapLinblue-frog, it didn't work09:54
LemLapLinit says destination host unreachable09:55
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Kiwi___cheers guys09:55
UncleDI have two pentium 4 processors in my machine - how can i make sure breezy detected both of them?09:55
polpakUncleD: uname -a, does it say SMP >09:55
gandalf_the_whitUncleD, use the SMP version of any Iinux09:55
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blue-frogLemLapLin, what is the IP of your ethernet eth0? what is the IP of eth1?09:56
LemLapLineth0 is on dhcp09:56
Toma-anyone know any light-weight dm's?09:56
LemLapLineth1 was 10.0.0.209:56
polpakToma-: WM's?09:56
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Toma-dm's.09:56
LemLapLineth0 has 10.0.0.1 atm09:56
Toma-like, gdm or kdm or wdm09:56
gandalf_the_whittristin, dont know, but maybe a rmvb to mpg conversion , then join the files09:56
Toma-i saw someone talking about another one the other day09:56
LemLapLinwould it matter at all that i normally have this card disabled in windows?09:57
polpakToma-: isn't there an xdm?09:57
Toma-yeh, but it sux :)09:57
blue-frogLemLapLin, subnetmask should be 255.0.0.009:57
timfrostfek, I can't help, as I have a pure breey setup, and don't have any pins active.   BTW, the DowngradeHowto seems to be a work-in-rogress09:57
polpakToma-: I think you're just being picky now =p09:57
Toma-yep.09:57
fekdamn. wtf!09:57
blue-frogLemLapLin, u're under linux so don't care about windows09:57
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feki just did a dist-upgrade and now i could through my system away09:57
fekcan't believe09:57
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feklong time ago it was with debian a worst thing, but with ubunut again?09:58
feki am fed up!09:58
veritas Question09:58
veritasWhen I'm setting the SSID in terminal09:58
gandalf_the_whitI have one question. I want to install the LTSP. According to the website, installing edubuntu will get LTSP working OOTB. How hard is it to upgrade to regular ubuntu from edubuntu,09:58
LemLapLinok will try that in a sec blue-frog09:58
LemLapLintrying to configure opera atm09:58
veritasiwconfig eth0 essid "name"09:58
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veritasFor instance09:58
liablefek: could you try that again in english?09:59
pulaskihello09:59
blue-froggandalf_the_whit, apt-get install edubuntu-desktop09:59
lillpelleveritas: it is easier to follow your question if you type it all at once...09:59
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fekliable: what?09:59
veritasSorry. I'm getting carried away wit myself09:59
liablefek: nm09:59
pulaskihas any one had the experience of trading out one window manager for another?. eg apt-get remove gnome ... apt-get install kde09:59
fekliable: i am just annoyed about this shit...10:00
veritasIf I were to connect to a network named "The Internets", what would be the command following iwconfig eth0 essid <essid_name>10:00
polpakpulaski: you can have them both installed, or one , or the other10:00
pulaskipolpak you mean simply choose between one or the other in /etc/X11/xinit/ ?10:01
blue-frogveritas, use system>adminstration>network it'll be easier10:01
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veritasI don't want to use that.10:01
pulaskior something like that? polpak10:01
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veritasI obviously did to get here... But I'd rather not in the future10:01
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ilba7ris there a synonum to the red hat sar command in ubuntu?10:01
gandalf_the_whitblue-frog, tried that, already had ubuntu installed for 3 months, and working great, the edubuntu thing just confused me more as for as administering. then I installed edubuntu, but wanted back ubuntu. then I really messed up. I installed Fedora. now I want to get back to ubuntu, but REALLY NEED LTSP10:02
blue-frogveritas man iwconfig10:02
fekhow do i downgrade just some special packages?10:02
drvijuhow to mount floopy drive10:02
veritasI know the command.10:02
veritasI just don't know how to connect to an ESSID that has a space in the name10:02
ilba7rfek force version either in apt or synaptic10:02
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blue-froggandalf_the_whit, can't see what was more confusing in edubuntu then in K12ltsp.10:03
gandalf_the_whitblue-frog,, how well does the apt-get ubuntu work on edubuntu10:03
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fekilba7r: but it seems. that hoary has got the same version of xserver-xorg*?10:03
veritasWould it just be... iwconfig eth0 essid "The Internets"10:03
timfrostilba7r, Package: atsar: Description: system activity reporter10:04
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polpakpulaski: if you have them both installed you can choose when you log in which one you want to use10:04
ilba7rthanx timfrost10:04
gandalf_the_whitthe ONLY thing that I liked about K12LTPS was the fact that it worked OOTB. but I HATE yum, and sympatic didnt work at all.10:04
polpakpulaski: under the "session" menu at the login prompt10:04
polpakpulaski: so each user can select their own DE10:04
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ilba7rfek, i was just answering your question about downgrading the installed vers of some packages i have no idea about xserver version10:05
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fekperfect10:05
pulaskipolpak I see yes I'm familiar with that option.  I'll have to make myself more familiar with it :)10:05
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blue-froggandalf_the_whit, basically edubuntu and ubuntu are the same except for ltsp so what was wrong with edubuntu?10:05
LemLapLinblue-frog, I ran iwconfig and it's getting a signal but i still get no route to host when i try to ping the router10:06
sagarpman..my system keeps randomly locking up when some process hogs the CPU, and my hd light starts flickering really fast...i'm forced to reboot..how can i determine the process after rebooting??10:06
pulaskithanks polpak, g'night10:06
polpakLemLapLin: type route and pastebin the output pls10:06
blue-frogLemLapLin, sry then can't help u must be a silly something ini your config somewhere..10:06
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gandalf_the_whitblue-frog, I didnt know how to get the full blown version of ubuntu back, was it as easy as an apt-get ubuntu-desktop, or does that exist for edubuntu. if it does, I could have saved myself a LOT of headpounding10:07
LemLapLin10.0.0.0        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth010:07
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grayman_hey10:07
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polpakLemLapLin: is eth0 your wireless card or your ethernet?10:07
grayman_how do i enable a sequancer with alsa?10:07
LemLapLinethernet10:08
LemLapLini can't get on here with the wireless atm10:08
blue-froggandalf_the_whit, just told u edubuntu and ubuntu are the same so i doon't see the point of installing ubuntu-desktop when using edubuntu10:08
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tonyyarussoHere's the error that both dpkg-reconfigure gdm and apt-get --purge install --reinstall gdm give me: "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed."  What does that mean?10:09
blue-frogLemLapLin, should be eth1 not eth010:09
LemLapLinthere is no entry for eth1 atm10:09
drvijuhow to mount floopy  drive10:09
LemLapLinbut the wireless card is inactive10:09
blue-frogLemLapLin, oh ok on ethernet now...10:09
LemLapLinyeah10:09
LemLapLini can't get on here with wifi10:09
LemLapLinevery time i try and do something with the wireless it says no route to host10:10
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gandalf_the_whitso all of the software in ubuntu is available for edubuntu,, seems I couldnt get it to work right, but will try again.10:11
gandalf_the_whitthanks10:11
blue-froggandalf_the_whit, all software runs the same10:11
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Friar!sh10:12
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Friar10:12
Friar!.sh10:12
ubotuFriar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about10:12
blue-froggandalf_the_whit, what software was giving u hard time?10:12
Friarhow do i run a .sh?10:12
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Friarfrom terminal10:12
blue-frogFriar, sh file.sh10:12
ilba7rfriar sh filename.sh10:12
Friarthanks10:13
enginhello10:13
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engin! how can I use nautilus default window manager on xfce, ubuntu?10:13
ubotuengin: I give up, what is it?10:13
enginnautilus10:13
ilba7rengin do you mean nautilus --browser --no-desktop10:13
enginbrowser10:14
enginok10:14
ilba7rengin i know that the default is browser10:14
engini want to default browser10:14
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enginsory10:14
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enginhow can do ti10:15
enginit10:15
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LemLapLinokay i just checked my router and apparently the "client" does not support the authentication method it uses10:15
ilba7rLemLapLin, try network manager10:16
LemLapLin2006-01-06 17:18:58 E |Wireless             |Station MAC 00:02:2D:59:C6:DB - association failed - responding station does not support the specified authentication algorithm10:16
ilba7r!network manager10:16
ubotuWish i knew, ilba7r10:16
LemLapLini have many times ilba7r10:16
ilba7r!networkmanager10:16
ubotunetworkmanager is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto10:16
ilba7rengin tell me in more detail your prob how do you start nautilus in xfce10:16
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engini had ubuntu and gnome but now i install xfce on it10:17
ilba7rLemLapLin, this is a package that you need to install and start do you have it. It makes connection an efforless job and support 128 encryp10:17
ilba7rengin do you have .xfce in your home dir10:17
ilba7rsorry engin i do not run xfce now but i had it set before10:18
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enginyes10:18
ilba7rok open it10:18
enginnow i am using xfce10:19
ilba7rther should be a menu file that will show you what command is used to start nautilus10:19
engini dont know10:19
ilba7rfrom a terminal you should type nautilus --browser --no-desktop10:19
ilba7rdo you see your icons too10:20
enginyes when type natulius it si running10:20
TranceRiverHas anyone had good luck with edimax rt2500 chipset?10:20
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ilba7rthis is the command you need in your menu. if you can edit the menu than that is it10:20
enginwhere can i do it10:21
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engini dont know sorry10:21
ilba7ryou have to look where the xfce menu is most probably in the .xfce directory10:21
enginok10:21
ilba7rin nautilus select show hidden files10:22
alainlucasWhat to do so that when people try to get connected to my website at the address xx.xx.xx.xx, they are automatically redirected to a sub-directory ?10:22
ilba7rgo to .xfce and most of the time the file name is menu10:22
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LemLapLinok ilba7r  i get area's about unable to unlock a directory10:22
LemLapLinFetched 379B in 12s (31B/s)10:22
LemLapLinE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:22
LemLapLinE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:22
LemLapLinerrors even10:23
LemLapLinsoo tired atm my typings just shit10:23
ilba7rLemLapLin, you hould use the pastebin for pasting error messages10:23
LemLapLin???10:23
LemLapLinwtf is that?10:23
ilba7rLemLapLin, did you use sudo apt-get install networkmanager10:23
ilba7ror did you use synaptic10:23
ilba7r!pastebin10:24
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:24
LemLapLinah ok10:24
enginis it in usr/share/xfce410:24
enginilba7r10:24
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ilba7rLemLapLin, its sudo apt-get install network-manager10:25
LemLapLini followed the wiki and added the universe source and then did sudo apt-get update and it gave me those errors10:25
WebLOCHHey guys thought I was above this level but apparently I still suck.  I've installed gstreamer plugins, totem-xine, mplayer and w32codecs but AVIs still wont play, its unrecognised or crashes the player.  Any advice?10:25
ilba7rengin try copying the menu file to your .xfce directory and after that edit it10:26
WebLOCHBah my bad.... Its only one set of AVIs10:26
ilba7rLemLapLin, what is the url of the pastebin so i can read the error you had10:26
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fekwhat is the actuall version of xserver-xorg and the i810-driver in hoary?10:27
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LemLapLinhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/668010:28
ilba7rfek i have a link from distrowatch but do not know if this is official here it is anyway http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu scroll to the bottom of the page10:29
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ilba7r!packages10:29
ubotuYou can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com10:29
fekilba7r: thanks10:29
ilba7rfek better follow ubotu link10:29
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ilba7rLemLapLin, mm did you use ^ c to cancell an update10:30
LemLapLinnope10:30
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fekroflmao10:31
ilba7rLemLapLin, seems the file is locked some how do not think it is because you have synaptic open10:31
LemLapLinoops10:31
LemLapLinsynaptic was open :-D10:31
darkritualmy sound blaster live value card gives no sound any solutions?10:31
ilba7rLemLapLin, that is the application that has the lock so use either synaptic or the apt-get in the terminal whatever you are comfrotable with10:31
LemLapLinok10:32
LemLapLini had synaptic open cause the wiki entry said i had to add the universe source before doing this10:32
beardyWhen Apache is installed, and no content has been placed in /var/www (or where Ubuntu wants it) Ubuntu's Apache 2.0.54's default page has this on it "This is a placeholder page installed by the Debian release of the apache Web server package." and it links to http://www.debian.org. That should be changed. I could not file a bug, since the Ubuntu bugzilla reguires login, and I didn't find somewhere to mail to, perhaps there is though?10:32
LemLapLinjust did it with synaptic closed10:32
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LemLapLinwent through without a problem10:32
ilba7rLemLapLin, enjoy it switching between wirless nets and to a wired one will be a breeze10:33
LemLapLini rarely if ever use a wired network on this thing10:33
LemLapLin99.9% of the time i'm on wireless10:33
LemLapLinkewl it worked10:34
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LemLapLingot the package installed10:34
beardysorry, "requires" isntead of "reguires"..10:34
Jhairbeardy, $ apt-cache show apache | grep Bugs10:34
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with a printer problem ?10:35
JhairBugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com10:35
beardyI don't run Ubuntu.10:35
beardyJhair: Thanks.10:35
snk00sjhi, does anyone know howto add a new menubar to a panel (not based on the current menu bars ?)10:35
ilba7rjahir should you put that to ubotu too10:35
ilba7r!bug10:35
ubotuTo file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages10:35
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fekwtf10:37
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fekroot@jammin:~ # apt-get -t hoary install xserver-xorg-driver-i81010:37
fekthat installs the breezy packages, why?!10:37
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pewphow can i enable selinux's stack randomization on ubuntu?10:37
Jhairilba7r,  I don't know what you mean, what I know is that the fact Ubuntu has two different and incompatible bug report systems (bugzilla, launchpad) is a disease :(10:38
ilba7rfek can you skip cursing. and you installed the latest ver. you need to force the hoaray package10:38
fekhow?10:39
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with a printer problem ?10:39
ilba7rjhair i thought you know how to teach ubotu the boot the mailing list. I am afraid i do not know how to do so10:39
beardyCanYouHelpMePlz: Just asking the question is usually the best way to get help faster.10:39
Jhairilba7r, oh I see, I think that can be done only by channels operators or something10:39
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ilba7rfek if you use synaptic select the package that you want than in the package menu select force version. then pick the version you want installed10:40
fekwith aptitude?10:40
CanYouHelpMePlzbeardy: i can print test pages fine, and i can scan things but if i try to print a document with a word processor, it comes out blank or unreadable.10:40
ilba7rfek you have to man aptitude to do it10:40
fekk10:40
ilba7rbut why you have the breezy reops if you do not want to use them? use the hoary repos then10:41
ilba7rJhair, ok :)10:41
darkritualfear of the dark!10:41
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veritasWhat nmap parameter do I use to scan a router IP for all available machines on the network?10:44
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kameroni'm trying to mount a removable usb thumb drive.10:45
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kameronanyone done that before?10:45
beardyCanYouHelpMePlz: I just came here asking a question myself, and I don't run Ubuntu, so I'm afraid I don't have any good answer for you. However, do you run cups? With which wordprocessor are you printing? Can you print using something else, like an editor? Answer to the whole channel.10:45
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beardykameron: What filesystem does the drive have?10:46
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gerald-voltwhere is a place I can write a bunch of text10:46
kameronbeardy: no idea. what fs do they usually have?10:46
gerald-voltand link to it10:46
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CanYouHelpMePlzi searched the forums for my printer model, and apparently i needed some extra libraries so i think it might work now10:46
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LemLapLinwoot10:46
LemLapLingo me10:46
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LemLapLinthanks for the help10:46
beardykameron: It depends on what it is, an USB-stick? Cameras usually have FAT16.10:46
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kameronbeardy: it's a run of the mill usb flash/thumb drive.. by sandisk.10:47
beardykameron: Anyway, do you know it's devicename?10:47
ompaulor fat 1210:47
kameronbeardy: no. in mandrake, it's /dev/sda110:47
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gerald-voltwhere is  a place I can paste a bunch of text, and link to it?10:48
beardykameron: Have you plugged it in? If not, plug it in and run 'dmesg' and see if it lists it.10:48
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, is it only scanned objects that do not print well from that application?10:48
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: i havent tried to print a scanned object, simply documents but the test page prints perfectly10:48
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mixandgocan I find emacs related packages in ubuntu ?10:49
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ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, what application did you try to print wiht?10:49
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: OO and abiword10:49
ompaulmixandgo, lots of them :-) >>sudo apt-cache search emacs <<will give you the list10:49
kameronbeardy: it's plugged in, the output of dmesg was massive.10:49
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, what printer is it?10:50
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: hp psc 161010:50
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beardykameron: It should be at the bottom if you just plugged it in, take it out and put it back in, and run it again.10:50
veritasWhat nmap parameter do I use to scan a router IP for all available machines on the network?10:51
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beardyveritas: The manual page is a good start.10:51
kameronbeardy: http://pastebin.com/49306010:51
gerald-voltI'm trying to configure my logitechmx1000 mouse, but i can't get x to bootup because the x11.conf is messtged10:51
gerald-volthttp://pastebin.com/49305910:51
gerald-voltthat's my /proc/bus/input/devices and my xorg.conf10:51
mixandgothanks ompaul10:52
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ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, try this >>system - administration - printing<<10:52
veritasman nmap10:52
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: yes i've been their..10:52
fek  aalib1 acpi-support adept airsnort akode akregator amarok amarok-arts appres ark arts artsbuilder audacity beforelight bitmap blt bluez-pin dcoprss dia dia-common10:52
fek  kde-i18n-de kde-style-lipstik kde-systemsettings kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdebluetooth kdegraphics-kfile-plugins10:52
fek  dillo editres ethereal evolution-data-server firefox foomatic-db-gimp-print foomatic-db-hpijs freeglut3 fstobdf gconf2 gftp gftp-gtk gnome-keyring gs-common10:52
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fek  gs-esp gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-sdl gstreamer0.8-vorbis gstreamer0.8-x gtk2-engines-gtk-qt gtkglarea5 gtkhtml3.6 gwenview hpijs iceauth ico ijsgimpprint10:52
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ompaul!paste10:52
fek  imagemagick imlib1 juk k3b k3blibs kaboodle kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm katapult kate kaudiocreator kcalc kcharselect kcontrol kcron kdat kde-guidance10:52
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:52
spliffon the off chance.. has anyone managed to get kismet going with a dlink dwl-g650.. source= ? :)10:52
fek  kdelibs-bin kdelibs4c2 kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing10:52
fek  kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdm kedit kfind kfloppy kgamma kghostview khelpcenter kicker kio-apt10:52
fek  kio-locate kismet kivio klaptopdaemon klipper kmail kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmix kmldonkey kmrml knetworkconf knotes koffice-data koffice-libs kolourpaint10:52
ompaulfek, STOP10:52
fek  konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konserve konsole kontact konversation kooka kopete korganizer kpackage kpager kpdf kpersonalizer kpf kphone kppp krdc10:52
fek  krec kregexpeditor krfb kscd kscreensaver ksim ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg ksysguard ksystemlog ksysv kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-docs10:53
ompaulfek, PRESS CTRL + C10:53
fek  kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kuickshow kuser kwalletmanager kweather kwifimanager kwin kynaptic libaa1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libarts1c210:53
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fek  libaudio-dev libaudio2 libbonoboui2-0 libcairo1 libcairo2 libcamel1.2-3 libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libdmx-dev libdmx1 libdps1 libebook1.2-3 libecal1.2-2 libecal1.2-310:53
fek  libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-cal1.2-1 libedataserver1.2-4 libedataserverui1.2-4 libegroupwise1.2-5 libgail-common libgail17 libgal2.4-0 libgal2.4-common10:53
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fek  l10:53
fekarghs10:53
liablespliff: does kismet support it for starters?10:53
feksorry!10:53
feksorry! :/10:53
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feksorry!!!10:53
fekwas my fault!10:53
ompaulfek, shhhhhhhh10:53
fekompaul: was to late :/10:53
ompaulfek, say nothing for a little while10:53
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CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: it wont work :-(10:54
beardykameron: It says sda, so it probablyis /dev/sda1 as you said earlier. If you don't know the filesystem, mount should be able to find it out automatically, just run 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/test' (or where you want to mount it, create the mountpoint if doesn't exist first.) More info about mount in it's manpage.10:54
yaniswhere is the mplayer in the ubuntu 5.10 universe???10:55
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, try the psc 1600 or the next one up10:56
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: i am using the psc 160010:56
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ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, check the choosen printer in your application that it is pointing to the choosen one10:57
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, iirc it will say default10:57
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, needs to be changed10:57
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: it says hp-psc-160010:57
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squirrelpimphi10:58
kameronbeardy: i tried sda1, sda, and usb, they all didn't work. listing /dev shows me there is no /sda110:58
snowblinkHi - does anyone know what version of ruby is packaged with Dapper?10:58
squirrelpimpi'm looking for a X11 countdown clock to time my pasta i am about to cook:-) any ideas despite the gnome applett?10:58
snowblinksquirrelpimp, I used to use tea timer - back when I used SuSE + KDE...10:59
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, just checking we are on the same page here I turned over the the OO application - I don't think so somehow11:00
snowblinksquirrelpimp, apt-cache search timer11:00
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beardykameron: Hmm, might be this long one then, worth a try at least, /dev/scsi/host13/bus0/target0/lun011:00
squirrelpimpsnowblink: i had a timer simply displaying green digits and executin a cmd, but that was years ago and i can't find it anymore11:00
jwbosHi, I need some help. I accidenlty removed my top panel (as a whole) how to restore it to the default settings??11:00
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kameronbeardy: negatron11:02
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squirrelpimpsnowblink: nothing usable in the repos:-)(11:04
squirrelpimpso i guess my pasta will be overdone...11:04
lillpellesquirrelpimp: just pick a "macaroni" and taste if it is done...11:04
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fekgreat... after a dist-upgrade i have to reinstall my hole system. thanks to ubuntu!11:04
UltraVi01Flash 8, yet?11:05
snowblinksquirrelpimp, throw pasta at wall - if it sticks, it's done11:05
viviersffek, to what did you upgrade ?11:05
fekfrom hoary to breezy11:05
viviersflol11:05
viviersffek,11:05
squirrelpimpsnowblink: know that dilbert strip about that method? dogbert saying "only test one at a time":-)11:05
fekviviersf: lol?11:05
kameronbeardy: oh gosh. i just unplugged the device, and plugged it back in. it really enjoyed that, and decided not only to mount it, but open the device in nautilus.11:05
viviersfFek, just do dist-upgrade again11:05
viviersfi had same problem11:05
Seveasfek, do you have 'ubuntu-desktop' instaled?11:05
fekviviersf: it will install nothing11:06
snowblinksquirrelpimp, heh11:06
Seveasor 'kubuntu-desktop' if you use kde11:06
kameronbeardy: *shakes head*. i won't bother booting with it plugged in.11:06
feksevas: kubuntu-desktop11:06
CanYouHelpMePlzSeveas: can you help me with a printing problem please?11:06
SeveasCanYouHelpMePlz, no11:06
CanYouHelpMePlzthanks..11:06
fekand now the system is so damaged, i couldn't do nothing and i am fed up11:06
beardykameron: Oh, that's good.11:06
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fekand when i changed the sources from breezy to hoary and do a dist-upgrade. it told me everytime, the newest version are allready installed11:07
lillpellefek: following what you have written last day about X not working and so on, maybe a fresh breezy install is the way to go anyways...11:07
viviersferm fek11:07
beardykameron: And if you run 'mount' now, what does it say it's device name is?11:07
viviersfwtf would you change "breezy" to "hoary"11:08
viviersfhoary is much older11:08
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Seveasfek, that indeed will not held11:09
Seveasfek, please confirm: do you have 'ubuntu-desktop' instaled?11:09
kameronubuntu@S0106000129f5b884:/media/usbdisk$ mount | grep usbdisk11:09
kameron/dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (blahblah etc)..11:09
feksevas: i have kubuntu-desktop installed11:10
fekTo continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'11:10
fek ?]  yes11:10
fekAbort.11:10
fekrofl?11:10
beardykameron: Ok11:11
CodenameKTSeveas: what do u do for a living that allows u to be on this channel so much11:11
fekto reinstall kubuntu-desktop i need lsb, but it conflicts with lsb-base and this one is not uninstallable11:11
feklillpelle: with 5.10 i'll get the xorg problem again11:11
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deFryskCodenameKT, what do you do for a living having to ask this ?11:12
feki'll try the live cd11:12
pinucsetone think, i've seen that google and intel are going to be "friends", is intel pro free software or not?11:12
x9 I just compiled and installed mplayer and it works well, but the colors are really off.11:12
lillpellefek: and still you try to upgrade to it? Or are you trying to downgrade to hoary from breezy?11:12
feki have only hoary now in my sources11:12
fekand i want to downgrade the hole system step by step11:12
fekbut it's not possible anymore11:12
lillpellehm, then I'd suggest a clean install of hoary11:12
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CodenameKTdeFrysk: I wait tables for a living. Sad, existence I know. I've done some tech jobs before but none have which allowed me to have irc going on the network11:13
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kamerondeFrysk: lol, good point11:13
LemLapLinwhat can i use to view the S.M.A.R.T. data for my hdd in ubuntu?11:13
Seveasfek, apt is not made for downgrading, we'd better focus on getting hoary working11:14
kameronCodenameKT: there's nothing sad about waiting tables. certainly this isn't the place for me to give you a confidence speech, but surely, nothing sad at all.11:14
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feksevaas: i had hoary running well but i decieded to upgrade to breezy11:14
LemLapLinwaiting tables is a good job11:14
Seveasfek, apt is not made for downgrading, we'd better focus on getting *breezy* working11:14
LemLapLinthere are worse jobs that that11:14
LemLapLinmuch worse11:14
fekseveas: with breezy my dual head config won't work11:14
LemLapLincleaning toilets for instance11:14
CanYouHelpMePlzsuch as crack whore.11:14
Seveasfek, change your sources.list to breezy again and tell me where it goes wrong11:14
feki try the live cd and when this not will work... i have to reinstall hoary completly11:15
Seveasdid you in hoary manually install video card drivers fek?11:15
fekbye11:15
fekseveas: my xorg i810 driver is borken11:15
fekno11:15
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feki just used the image kernel and the i810 xorg driver11:15
Seveaswhich kernel version are you using in breezy?11:15
feksingle screen works perfect. but when i want to use the second one i'll get only a "green" screen11:15
fekLinux jammin 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux11:16
LemLapLincan someone please tell me what i can use to read smart data from my hdd11:16
LemLapLini think it's playing up11:16
squirrelpimpLemLapLin: smart data??11:16
deFryskCodenameKT, that was a retorical quetsion , I dont care what you do11:16
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Seveasfek, hmm..11:17
LemLapLinhdd self diagnostic data squirrelpimp11:17
Seveaslet me ponder a bit...11:17
CodenameKTdeFrysk: stay right there while I add u to my ignore list11:17
LemLapLinsmart = Self Monitoring and Reporting Technology11:17
squirrelpimpi see11:17
fekseveas: that's the config and it worked with hoary: http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/xorg.conf11:17
squirrelpimpbut dunno11:17
gerald-voltwhat file do I edit to configure my startup11:18
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LemLapLindoes ubuntu work with rpm's ok?11:18
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CanYouHelpMePlzno.11:19
Seveasfek, You might be bitten by this bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2024011:19
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fekgna11:20
fekfirefox is now borken, too11:20
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schwukCan anyone help me with a laptop netowrk issue? I've got an Acer 1654WMLi that installs fine (with noapic). Network is detected and enabled, but it won't get a DHCP address.11:20
fekseveas: is there any patch available?11:21
sakkewwhat is the difference between ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso and ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso ?11:21
fekseveas: couldn't open it11:21
fekmy system is just only running borken in the ram11:21
Seveasfek, unfortunately not, it would help if you add you comments to it11:21
Seveassakkew, one is n install cd, the other a live cd11:22
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BigKahunaI have a password protected rar file but Im not sure how to specify the password before extracting? any ideas?11:22
fekhave to boot my other notebook11:22
gerald-volthow do I configure my startup?11:22
ilba7rgerald-volt, system>prefrences>session11:23
gerald-volti'm not using gnome11:23
ilba7rthan consult the window manager you are using11:23
x9How do I remove totem without getting rid of the ubuntu desktop?11:23
sakkewSeveas: i'm sorry but what does "live" mean in this case?11:23
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ilba7rsakkew, it is a demo cd that will run from your cd without installing to your harddisk11:24
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deFryskx9, ubuntu-desktop is a matepackage and can be removed safely11:24
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deFryskmeta*11:24
x9oh, ok.11:24
sakkewilba7r, thanks11:24
fekseveas: hmm. i taking breezy again and install the packages... it makes no sense to downgrade because it's impossible11:24
fekseveas: that's not a good statement to ubuntu...!11:24
ilba7r:)11:24
bnDcan someone help me out? i just installed ubuntu server, and then installed xdm, however i think i didnt set resolution correctly, can someone lead me to where i can set the res for xdm?11:24
Seveasfek, indeed, I'm very sorry to hear this11:25
fekbut hmmm... the xorg-problem is not concering ubuntu itself11:25
Nghmm, is klibido the only nntp client in bunty with nzb support?11:25
sakkewis there a way to run ubuntu from inside windows?11:25
deFryskbnD, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:25
bnDdeFrysk, thank you11:25
Ngsakkew: qemu or vmware ought to do the trick11:25
megabytesanyone know how i can use my adsl usb modem on ubuntu?11:26
x9I'm burning to death and my lady friend doesn't care!11:27
fekseveas: the problem is... i'll won't get any errors11:27
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Seveasfek, not even in Xorg.0.log?11:28
fekhttp://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/Xorg.0.log11:29
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fekseveas: i'll only get a turquoise background when kdm tries to startup11:29
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Seveasfek, I'm afraid I'm out of clue11:31
fekseveas: dito ;)11:31
BigKahunahow to extract files from a .rar?11:31
Seveasmaybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can get you further11:31
Seveasbut I doubt it since xorg.conf looks ok11:31
bnDhrm11:32
bnDpoo11:32
SeveasBigKahuna, unrar x filename.rar11:32
bnDcan anyone help me out? when i attempt to start xdm i get a gray screen with a lil X in the middle then i go back to console..11:32
BigKahunaSeveas, and if the rar is password protected?11:32
BigKahunaI know what the password is.11:32
SeveasBigKahuna, man unrar11:32
Tomcat_BigKahuna: unrar will ask you.11:32
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BigKahunak thanks.11:33
SeveasbnD, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues11:33
bnDSeveas, thanks11:33
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bnDSeveas, the only 'warning' i see is "font redered for * already registered at priority 011:34
bnDany thoughts?11:34
Seveasnope11:35
bnDpoo11:35
bnDthanks anyways11:35
seliniumI have been waiting for some updates to show their changes for about 2 weeks now, as far as I can see I have nothing strange in my repos.  The change versions look strange as well. 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1  appears on all the upgrades without a change record. All updates regard php.11:35
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nics__bnD; does 'startx -- :1' keep a running X server, i.e. is it a xdm problem or X config problem11:36
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bnDnics__, one sec11:36
DespenWhere can I find help so I can install scummVM 0.80?11:36
fekseveas: on this way i got a working single-head config. but when i add the second screen, it will crash11:36
LemLapLinhow do i get ubuntu to read an ntfs partition11:37
aftertaf!tell LemLapLin about windowsdrives11:37
selinium!tell LemLapLin about ntfs11:37
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aftertaf!tell selinium about lartist11:37
Seveasthat's exactly what that bug report is about11:37
aftertaf:)11:38
Seveas!tell aftertaf about attitude11:38
seliniumaftertaf, lol11:38
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aftertafSeveas:  the original lartist :)11:39
Ng"lartist" makes no sense ;)11:39
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aftertafit does if you cat /dev/random Ng  ;)11:39
Ngeh?11:40
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aftertafbrb11:40
bnDum..11:41
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bnDwhere is xorg.conf supposed to be?11:41
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aftertafbnD:  /etc/X11/xorg.cong11:41
aftertafbnD:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf11:41
aftertafeven11:41
bnDaftertaf, yeah, thought so, thanks11:41
bunglehi all11:41
bnDnics__, startx -- :1 keeps a running xserver11:42
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LemLapLinok the partition is mounted but it says i don't have the correct permissions when i try to access it11:42
bnDnics__, that actually put me into fluxbox...11:42
seliniumSeveas, Can you help with my update issue? THe updates do not have anything in the change records and haven't for a couple of weeks. Is this an oversite, or are my repos borked?11:42
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nics__ok well that should mean your x config is ok and its a xdm problem11:43
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seliniumaftertaf, Congrats... :)11:43
bnDnics__, know where i should look next/11:43
bnD?*11:43
nics__bnD: you running GNOME, KDE or something else?11:43
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bnDnics__, xdm + fluxbox11:44
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nics__bnD; not sure where to look to be honest if the logs don't give a clue, something in the xdm login must crap out11:44
bnDnics__, thanks for the help ;)11:45
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alainlucasHow to download the page http://www.ubuntu-fr.org/ with all the stuffs it uses so that i can open it as a local file ? (save file under... doesn't work well in firefox)11:45
nics__could try re-installing xdm11:46
WebLOCHHey guys, got another lame question, i want to ISO a directory but ignore all of the ISO standards for filenames and directories, I've checked the man pages but the switches ive tried dont appea rto make a difference11:46
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WebLOCHThat comment was in relation to mkisofs11:46
LemLapLincome on someone help me get this working. i want my mp3's already :-D11:47
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WebLOCHLemLapLin, instructions for that are on the wiki, under RestrictedFormats11:48
WebLOCH!RestrictedFormats11:48
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:48
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annibiscan anyone help me install a .deb file11:48
bnDwhats weird is xdm isnt even writing to .log or .pid file :/11:48
morethi all11:48
NgWebLOCH: can you not use the Joliet and Rockridge extensions to do that?11:48
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annibisI am trying to install skype11:48
WebLOCHannibis, yeah   sudo dpkg -i file.deb11:48
moretI am working in Debian now, but I want to change to Kubuntu11:48
annibisthanks11:48
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anandaputrahi..11:49
moretin Ubuntu, is there a package with tahoma font?11:49
nics__bnD: even wierder my system doesn't allow xdm, just gdm or kdm11:49
anandaputrai need help.. how to use proxychains??11:49
WebLOCHNg, maybe Im just checking the verbose now, i have a feeling it worked but because its spazzed me with text I assuemd it hadnt without reading it all!11:49
bnDnics__, really? very strange11:49
nics__bnD: I know :-)11:49
moretin Ubuntu, is there a package with tahoma font or ubuntu's license is really like Debian?11:49
bnDhrm11:49
bnDwell with startx i end up in a lowres fluxbox11:50
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Den!tell Den about deb11:50
bnDi guess thats something11:50
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anandaputrai want to use ssh, but there is a proxy in front of our network..11:50
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NgWebLOCH: I'm just wondering if you are trying to violate iso9660 intentionally, or if you just want long filenames to work properly. If it's the latter, enable joliet and rockridge and your discs will be fine in windows and unix respectively11:50
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garrybnD, Might try this command to reconfigure xdm, it might save a complete reinstall. As taken from the xorg.conf file .... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg11:50
nics__might still need to re-configure X for the correct resolution11:50
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bnDgarry, thanks ill try it out11:50
WebLOCHNg, Intentional, I had deep directories and other bits11:50
bnDnics__, i set it to 1440x900 which is right for this laptop :)11:51
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garrybnD Good luck to ye.11:51
Hawk|-!help11:51
bnDgarry, :)11:51
nics__bnD: wow such lowres, mine only works properly at 1920x1200 :-)11:51
LemLapLinWebLOCH, that's not the problem. i can't access the ntfs drive they are on11:51
bnDnics__, i envy you ;)11:51
LemLapLinsays i don't have the right permissions'11:51
bnDhrm11:52
Hawk|-Den, is here a bot ?11:52
moretI want tahoma font, witch package is it in?11:52
bnDshould vesa be the correct setting?11:52
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bnDi have no idea what im doing here ;x11:52
Ngmoret: it's not, tahoma is not freely distributable, you'll need to grab it from a windows machine11:52
WebLOCHLemLapLin, then you should have specified that really.  Try copying them to your linux partition with 'sudo cp'11:52
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nics__bnD: its a thing of beauty :-) I think vesa can handle it though I am using the proprietory nvidia drivers so that I can use xcompmgr11:52
garryDoes it say you can't access because you are not root?11:52
LemLapLini did specify it earlier11:52
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WebLOCHLemLapLin, maybe you need to start your media player as 'sudo' to overide the permissions, Im not sure.  Not while I was here LemLapLin11:53
bnDlol11:53
bnDso11:53
bnDi did what garry suggested, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg11:53
LemLapLinnah i can't access it at all11:53
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LemLapLinit's mapped as hda111:53
bnDand got a beautiful hires xdm that dumped :P11:53
WebLOCHLemLapLin, its not mounted?11:53
LemLapLinit is mounted11:53
cratuki*Complete* newbie question coming :( I've installed libgtk2.0-dev using apt-get, and run ldconfig..11:53
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garryargh.11:53
WebLOCHLemLapLin, then you CAN access it11:53
cratuki.. yet when I try to compile some source code from the beginning of the gtk tutorial, I get "main.c:1:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory"11:53
bnDxdm is running, however it isnt creating a .pid file in /var/run/11:54
Hawk|-!tell Hawk|-  about deb11:54
nics__try setting the default colour depth to 16 rather than 24 in the xorg.conf11:54
bnDpoo.11:54
LemLapLinit says i don't have the right permissions when i try to access it11:54
WebLOCHLemLapLin, goto the command line11:54
nics__will need to kill off xdm and restart for it to take effect11:54
garrysec, I might have a help for that. The fstab line will need to have the device and mountpoints changed of course. ... sec11:54
LemLapLinyup11:54
bnDnics__, ill give it a try, brb11:54
WebLOCHLemLapLin, and from the command line try to enter the root11:55
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LemLapLinsudo?11:55
WebLOCHyeah why not11:55
WebLOCHI assume you just got the usermasks wrong11:55
garryLemLapLin, Here's the line, the filesystem type and device names and mountpoints might need changing, but this cured my problem when I could not access .... /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       011:56
garrythatis from the /etc/fstab file11:56
WebLOCHfairenoughhaha11:56
LemLapLinit's not sata11:56
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WebLOCHLemLapLin, just change the mount point and the device11:56
garryyep11:57
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WebLOCH/dev/hdaX       /mnt/pnt   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       011:57
kameronW0000T!!! it took a coupel hours, but i finally hacked together my own lilo to run on ubuntu. works great :D:D:D11:57
WebLOCHkameron, im sure people would love to  hear about it... on #u-offtopic11:57
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garrythe important part is the ro or rw,, umask=0722 part.11:57
Pygifreaky: ping11:57
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kameronWebLOCH: i'm sure people would like.. to.. errr, eff off. thank you.11:57
WebLOCHkameron, sounds like your a cockbite11:58
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kameronWebLOCH: people in this channel have been helping me for the past few hours with my lilo, and various steps, just thought i'd let them know: mission successful.11:58
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WebLOCHkameron, fair enough, my apologies11:58
kameronWebLOCH: mine also, cockbite :P11:58
LemLapLinso how do i reload the fstab to access it now?11:59
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Pygikameron: congrats :)11:59
WebLOCHLemLapLin, mount -a11:59
WebLOCHLemLapLin, sudo of course11:59
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kameronty Pygi11:59
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LemLapLinstill says permission denied when i try to access it12:00
_ubuntuanyone know how to get multimonitor support on an nvidia card?  I have acceleration going, just can't figure out multimonitor12:00
_ubuntuack12:00
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kameron_ubuntu: the live cd does that to you :P12:00
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XaXXonkameron: the name thing?  or something to do with multimonitor?12:01
garryHmmm, something strange going on. That should have worked12:01
kameronXaXXon: name thing12:01
XaXXonyeah12:01
XaXXonwasn't paying attention12:01
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JoeBlowwhen I run native quake2 installer, the terminal says Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library12:01
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nics__LemLapLin: try umask=022212:01
LemLapLinkk12:01
kameronXaXXon: i'll ping my friend, see if he's on. he has dual benq 17s12:01
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JoeBlowanyone have any ideas for me?12:02
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kameronXaXXon: ah, no luck. sorry.12:02
garryI had a student come to me other dayfor help on printing, his paper would not print. Turned out he spent two hours typing his paper ona  computer htat was turned off. He thought it was the screensaver!!12:02
JoeBlowwhen i run native quake 2 installer, it seems to never find my disks, same with doom 3, and i can browse them and all12:02
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XaXXonkameron: thanks anyhow :)12:02
LemLapLinnope still permission denied12:03
nics__LemLapLin: ok whats the permissions on the directory you are trying to mount the drive to?12:04
garryLemLapLin, recheck syntax, make sure it saved, reboot and try agn.12:04
garryhmm, good question nics__12:04
nics__cheers :-)12:04
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LemLapLinhow do i view the permissions?12:04
sambagirlwhat is command for finding ip address in ubuntu?12:05
LemLapLinifconfig12:05
sambagirlipconfig?12:05
XaXXon /sbin/ifconfig12:05
sambagirlif12:05
kemiksambagirl:  depends on what you mean12:05
kemikifconfig12:05
sambagirlthank yon12:05
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kemikor "host domainname"12:05
JoeBlowhey can someone help me out with quake 2 native install?12:05
garryright click directory choose permissions.12:05
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LemLapLinJoeBlow, wait for turophile to come online12:05
LemLapLinhe is the linux gaming guru12:06
JoeBlowLemLapLin: is he coming online soon?12:06
XaXXonwhen I download packages when booted off the live cd, where are they going?12:06
garryTry seeing if it runs anyway Joe, It kind of sounds like a fond might be missing.12:06
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LemLapLinno idea12:06
phoetonhi guys!12:06
LemLapLindoh12:06
LemLapLinwrong channel12:06
LemLapLinsorry12:06
JoeBlowgarry: it wont find my cd's or mounted iso's12:06
nics__coffee break, brb12:06
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garryJoeBlow Strange thing, is that my copy doen't ask for the cd, so it gives no issues. Ye aren't trying to unstall under wine/cedega are ye? There is a native installer avail from www.id.com that you can run quakes/dooms without wine/cedega.12:08
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Pygifreky: ping12:08
JoeBlowgarry: I was using loki installer12:08
phoetonI have the following bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49397 kan anyone tell me if it is possible to avoid it?12:08
phoetonBug description: Mozilla was installed as root and shall now be used by a normal user. I am not able to edit or read out any of my IMAP folders.12:08
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garryJoeBlow hmm, sounds like you are doing it right. All I can guess is a font is missing.12:08
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Seveaswoah12:09
Seveasspambot!12:09
JoeBlowgarry: it says gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library12:09
LemLapLinhow do i view permissions on a directory?12:09
JoeBlowgarry: but still loads12:10
kameronlelamplin: ls -l12:10
SeveasLemLapLin, ls -ld /path/to/folder12:10
garryoh good. so it runs?12:10
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Seveas_null, you're downgraded?12:11
JoeBlowgarry: I dont know what happened, but now its running it in terminal and working12:11
kameronlelampin: ls -ld, seveas got it. i missed the d.12:11
vkis there any way to use a wabcam with linux and msn?12:12
JhairLemLapLin, stat <directory>12:12
garryJoeBlow  grats, least it's working now. :) Oh, the music won't play, its normal thing because linux doesn't support all the nice sound drivers that the games sometimes use, at least not yet.12:12
JoeBlowgarry: I dont know how i got it to run in terminal tho12:12
JoeBlowgarry: would be nice to figure that out12:13
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sunnzy2Does anyone know how to add stuff to the Application Menu on Gnome 2.10.2?12:13
yanisis there any X11 dev package? I cant find one12:13
yanissunnzy2: smeg12:13
garryYes, I run mine in KDE on my ubunto it seems I can install KDE and have both available.12:13
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sunnzy2smeg?12:14
Ngyanis: libx11-dev and some others - apt-cache search libx | grep dev12:14
sunnzy2bash: smeg: command not found12:14
garrysleepy time, 3:15am, gnight all.12:14
Ngsunnzy2: sudo apt-get install smeg :)12:14
yanisthanks Ng12:14
yanissunnzy2: lol :P12:14
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Nghaving said that, smeg should be installed by default on breezy, ubuntu-desktop depends on it12:15
Seveassunnzy2, are you using dapper?12:15
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flogistonHelp I think i killed something in xfce.12:16
sunnzy2Thanks.12:16
flogistonI can't click on the desktop.12:16
LemLapLindr-x------  1 root root 8192 2006-01-05 23:31 hda112:17
LemLapLinthat means it's locked to me doesn't it?12:17
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Renskiyes, unless you have sudo access12:17
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LemLapLinso how can i make it so that i can access it?12:18
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ibmnotebookis there a way to install ACTIVE X on ubuntu? i need access to Microsoft Sharepoint12:18
LemLapLinrofl12:19
RenskiLemLapLin: sudo (your command)12:19
Renskior su (if you have a root password setup)12:19
Renskithen you command12:19
Renskiexit12:19
Renski*your12:19
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LemLapLini was kinda hoping for help with the actuall command12:19
Hunt02hi everyone12:19
RenskiLemLapLin: hda1 your windows share?12:20
LemLapLinyeah12:20
Hunt02i'm using an old PC (2Ghz, 256MB RAM) and want to use NetBeans on it12:20
Renskiah, you need to mount it12:20
LemLapLinntfs drive on local machine12:20
Hunt02but to save some ram, i want to install a lite version of ubuntu12:20
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Hunt02how can i disable as much background processes as necessary N?12:20
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Renskisorry, ive got to go, LemLapLin ask one of the others how to mount an ntfs drive12:21
flogistonxfce whould work super12:21
LemLapLinok will do12:21
LemLapLinthe drive is mounted12:21
LemLapLinjust can't access it cause of the permissions12:21
Hunt02flogiston, and this can be installed with apt-get ?12:21
nics__LemLapLin: can root access the directory and see the files?12:21
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LemLapLinno that's the problem12:22
LemLapLinam trying to get access to it12:22
flogiston"sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop" i think12:22
LemLapLinah12:22
LemLapLinroot12:22
kameronvk: you around?12:22
LemLapLinnot sure12:22
LemLapLini don't have root login enabled12:22
Zambbasudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:23
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nics__LemLapLin: just trying to work out whether its a perms or mount problem, can try 'sudo ls /<mountpoint>'12:23
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Hunt02Zambba, and how much RAM will use the total installation then ?12:23
vkkameron, sure12:23
LemLapLinperms12:24
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LemLapLinthat worked12:24
LemLapLini need to change the perms so i can access it12:24
ZambbaHunt02: huh, does installation spend RAM?12:24
ZambbaI thought only using programs would spend it12:24
nics__LemLapLin: ok then unmount the drive and make sure that all users have x+r perms on the mount directory and its parent12:24
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kameronvk: it's worth looking into project utopia12:25
flogistonhunt02; not much.12:25
Hunt02Zambba, i mean the total active system12:25
flogistonwww.xfce.org12:25
joshuagood morn all12:25
ZambbaHunt02: oh okay12:25
LemLapLinok will do12:25
flogistonright now im using 250MB.12:25
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Hunt02and there aren't any other things that can be shut down ? such as printersupport12:25
Zambbabut still I can't believe XFCE which is installed with Xubuntu would spend more RAM than bare XFCE12:25
nics__you have to have 'x' to be able to access directories12:25
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vkkameron, project utopia?? isnt that a game?12:25
joshuaswitched to ubuntu from fedora4 tonidh im stuck in 640x400 any help?12:26
nics__and obviously 'r' to then read them12:26
ZambbaWell it does spend more RAM but not very much more12:26
kameronvk: it's usb support12:26
flogistonfirefox: 120MB, bmp: 50MB, gaim: 50MB12:26
LemLapLinshit12:26
LemLapLinlightning storm going on here12:26
atlashello12:26
LemLapLinwill be back later people12:26
LemLapLinthanks for the help12:26
vkkameron, sorry, i dont know i where looking for just a prog, but as far as i understand is it difficult to use webcam in linux or?12:26
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atlasi'm searchin for how auto reload module when crashing or other12:27
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Hunt02flogiston, did you take firefox etc. in account in that 250MB ?12:27
joshuacan anyone see my posts?12:27
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nics__joshua: no12:27
nics__:-)12:27
JoeBlowhow can i tell where synaptic installs things?12:27
joshua;)12:27
flogistonyeas12:27
kameronvk: it's not too difficult. gnome-meeting and other progs work well, but getting it to work with ms msn is difficult.12:27
atlasfor example today i have installing a new network driver by ssh(i know it isn't a good thing lol)12:27
atlasbut if computer do auto modprobe forcedeth...12:27
atlasthe lan will be back...12:28
vkkameron, ok, its not that important so i think ill skip it12:28
joshuaany hints or hacks to get ubuntu out of 640x400 display?12:28
kameronvk: alright12:28
Hunt02flogiston, so you mean the total bare system uses only 80MB RAM ?12:28
vkkameron, but tnx anyway12:28
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flogistoni have 4 processes thats xfce. and the take less than 20MB each.12:28
nics__reconfigure xorg?12:28
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joshuai googled and found info on xorg do i typ config xorg in term?12:29
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nics__dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:29
Hunt02flogiston, isn't 80MB just for a WindowManager a lot ?12:29
nics__might need to sudo that12:29
joshuanics your the beFt12:29
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nics__lol12:30
flogistonhunt02: xfce is a desktop enviroment.12:30
tangmubaihello. how can i copy one hd to and other? the first hd is bad, so i need some fail safe program.12:30
TTiluskameron: you actually _can_ make it work with msn (messenger) ?12:30
nics__tell the wife that12:30
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kameronTTilus: i haven't tried, but i just suggested that he look into utopia12:30
flogistonIt's lighter than gnome and kde.12:30
TTiluskameron: neverheardof, gotta check12:30
joshualittle prayer to the elohim for ya;)12:31
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Hunt02flogiston, ok, but if you compare it to explorer, it uses eight times as much12:31
TTilusHunt02: really sure?12:31
joshuaoh shoot what is default su password after install?12:32
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TTilusHunt02: me thinks its more like explorer being mostly hidden inside windows12:32
Seveas!tell joshua about root12:32
joshua?12:32
Seveasubotu, sent you a message12:32
ubotuSeveas: I don't know, could you explain it?12:32
Seveasread it12:32
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joshuais that a command?12:32
flogistonFirefox is know to eat ram. But it's not a part of the xfce desktop.12:32
drvijuhow to mount floopy drive?12:32
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flogistonAs you probably know.12:32
flogistonDid you check the homepage i gave to you? www.xfce.org12:33
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ratschnowskihello, when deinstalling via apt-get remove --purge all the configuration of the selected package is removed. Is it the same for those packages the selected one depends on?12:33
TTilusdrviju: floppy in, go places -> computer -> ...12:33
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Seveasratschnowski, no12:33
Seveasratschnowski, look at debfoster for that12:34
drvijugives message cant mount12:34
ratschnowskii want to deinstall postfix but it says that apache mysql etc will be removed too12:34
Hunt02but you guys mean 80Mb is the total amount of RAM that's used ?12:34
joshuaany info on su - root password?12:34
ratschnowskiSeveas, debfoster?12:34
joshuaim obliviously a newb12:34
Seveasratschnowski, these may depend on postfix12:34
flogistonless than 80Mb.12:34
Seveasjoshua, read what ubotu sent you12:34
flogistonmore like 60MB.12:34
joshuaoh12:34
TTilusratschnowski: why an earth would you like to deinstall postfix?12:34
Hunt02magnificent ;-)12:35
ratschnowskii have a serious problem and want to "reinstall" it12:35
Hunt02anyone exp with NetBeans and Linux ?12:35
ratschnowskiits the last solution i have12:35
Seveasratschnowski, dpkg -P --force-depends postfix && apt-get intall postfix12:35
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kemikHunt02:  not realy, but shoot!12:35
flogistonthink they have netbeans for linux on the java homepage.12:35
ratschnowskiok, thx12:35
netstoogewww.needee.com12:36
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kameronnetstooge: please DO NOT spam channel is garbage like that12:36
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TTiluswhat filesystems are available during breezy install?12:37
Hunt02kameron, perhaps it's with an exploit of that WMF-leak12:37
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kameronTTilus... plenty. anyone one you have in mind? i don't remember off hand.12:37
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kameronHunt02: WMF-leak?12:37
TTiluskameron: MS-problems12:37
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kameronHunt02: oh, and to answer your question above, yes, i've used netbeans in linux12:38
Hunt02kameron, that thing they found in windows recentl12:38
Hunt02y12:38
LasseL!backports12:38
ubotufrom memory, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:38
TTiluskameron: im trying to figure out which filesystem would be best for mythtv-box12:38
kameronTTilus: what sort of ms problem? can't read ntfs or fat32?12:38
TTiluskameron: that MS-problems was pointing to WMF-leak, that is12:38
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kameronTTilus: hmm. i'll get back to you on that shortly.12:38
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TTiluskameron: i was thinking of reiser412:39
_nullWhy would I get a 'no space left on device' message when I see in df that there is 58% used only?12:39
kameronTTilus: what distro are you planning to use?12:39
mweTTilus: is it 100% ready? I'm using reiser312:39
Hunt02gg12:39
Hunt02bye12:39
joshuahow do i execute this command in terminal if i can't be root in terminal?12:39
TTilus_null: maybe you are trying to copy file bigger than 42% of your volume12:40
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_nullTTilus, no, a touch /media/foobar says no space left12:40
joshuadpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:40
_nullTTilus, /dev/md2              297G  171G  127G  58% /media12:40
_null <- this is /media12:40
TTilusmwe: everything ive read suggests its not "ready"12:40
Tomcat_mwe: It is, but I'm staying on the safe side with reiser3 too :)12:40
comickamy you like eh?12:40
Seveasjoshua, READ THAT WIKIPAGE!12:41
nics__sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:41
TTilusanyone know if reiser4 is available during install?12:41
TTilus(im lazy as hell now...)12:41
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nics__give it your user password when prompted12:41
kameronTTilus: read here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html under Filesystems. Reiser3/4 is NOT reccomended.12:41
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TTiluskameron: woops, never read that, thanx12:42
LasseL!openoffice12:42
ubotuLasseL: I give up, what is it?12:42
pinucsethow can i know my gcc version?12:42
Seveaspinucset, gcc -v12:42
joshuaseveas debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process12:42
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joshuagotcha12:42
drvijuttilus how to mount floopy drive12:42
Seveasjoshua, close all other apt programs12:42
LasseLI'd like to upgrade my openoffice 2 install on breezy, the one I have scrolls so terribly slow in calc that it must be a bug12:42
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_nullTTilus, got it, the blocksize was 4 mbyte, so each little file (and I have a lot of small files) consumed 4 mbytes :p12:43
joshuain the system process window?12:43
TTiluskameron: wow, so its xfs or jfs12:43
Seveasno, just nicely close them...12:43
TTiluskameron: xfs looks like being a real overkill12:43
kameronTTilus: idealy, yes. it makes sense if you think about it.12:43
nics__joshua: close all open windows, open a terminal and run the command from there12:44
kameronTTilus: depends how large the files are you're going to create. likely, large.12:44
joshuak thank you for patience!12:44
TTilus_null: mygod! 4mb blocks, why?12:44
joshuamay you inherit my fortune12:44
_nullTTilus, because normally every file is about 50 mbyte big12:44
TTiluskameron: thats true12:44
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TTiluskameron: i currently have reiser3 on my mythbox  :D12:45
_nullTTilus, but my backup has had about 50'000 files each ~3kbyte big ;)12:45
nics__how much is it worth :-)12:45
Diablo69oy...I have been working on this damn thing for over 8 hours now and it still won't work12:45
SeveasDiablo69, which damn thing?12:45
kameronTTilus: do i smell a reformat? :P12:45
Diablo69installing ubuntu12:45
Diablo69every time I try12:45
TTiluskameron: yes you do, and a reinstall12:45
TTiluskameron: i have install cd burning right now12:46
Diablo69it freezes at hot plug, and or it decided to not install properly becuz files on the disc or iso image are currupt12:46
kameronTTilus: what distro are you using? ubuntu will work, but other distros are more specialized for the task if that's the only thing you'll use the box for.12:46
joshuawell im running all four of my dumpster dove computers in vairous kernels of linux while watching tv from a dumpster maybe you can guess the sum of my assests?12:46
joshua;)12:46
TTiluskameron: thats definitely not the only thing12:46
SeveasDiablo69, then check your iso and disk...12:46
Diablo69I have12:46
Diablo69its from the ubuntu site12:46
nics__:-)12:46
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kameronDiablo69: have you scrolled through F1-F10 after typing "rescue" at the boot prompt?12:46
Diablo69I tried dapper12:46
TTiluskameron: it'll be full desktop besides being mythbox12:46
SeveasDiablo69, dapper has no hotplug12:46
Diablo69I know this12:47
kameronTTilus: okay, cool.12:47
Diablo69its being even more of a pain in the ass12:47
Diablo69it keeps saying lib something is currupt12:47
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TTiluskameron: and web-server and fileserver and mailserver and so on12:47
Seveasdapper is unstable...12:47
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kameronTTilus: werd12:47
SeveasDiablo69, check the md5sum of your iso12:47
mcquaidhello, i finally upgarded from oo1 to oo212:47
TTiluskameron: would you go with xfs or jfs?12:47
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mweSeveas: but isn't the final dapper gonna have hotplug?12:47
joshuaoh no i lost the dpkg command when i shut all windows12:47
idpwhere ican set my x config to 102412:47
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Diablo69anyway I can do that on windows, thats what I am on at the moment12:47
mcquaidit doesn't seem to have any native theme support at all.  is there a pkg I'm missing?12:47
Diablo69my other box doesn't have a os on it yet12:47
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Seveasmwe, no, they kicked it out. Good riddance12:47
TTiluskameron: mythpeople seem to suggest jfs, but xfs looks otherwise more attractive12:47
LasseLIf I download the latest OOo2 tarball will I be able to make apt install that as an upgrade to my current package?12:48
mweSeveas: I see. interesting12:48
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hoffimaridp check /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:48
kameronTTilus: mmm. personally. it's splitting hairs you realize. but i'd try xfs to start with.. and if it wasn't giving me the performance i wanted, or if i was doing really large files, i'd try jfs.12:48
nics__joshua: not a problem ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:48
bunglehow do i install xfce?12:48
TTilusAre XFS and JFS available at Breezy install?12:48
joshuaty nics12:48
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Diablo69do you think it could be becuz I have a external dvd burner and or I have a compaq presario desktop12:48
Seveasbungle, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:48
_nullkameron, if you use xfs.. and your box loses power, some data will be lost ;)12:48
bunglethanks12:48
kemikwhat will they use if hotplug got booted?12:48
LasseLkameron, xfs is optimized for large files12:48
Ng_null: that will probably be true of most filesystems12:49
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Seveaskemik, pure udev12:49
_nullNg, no12:49
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Ng_null: yes12:49
_nullNg, xfs caches a lot12:49
_nullNg, ext3 does not12:49
mweNg: xfs is worse12:49
kameronLasseL, i got them backwards i think.12:49
Ng_null: anything in your writeback cache or in the disk's cache is lost no matter what the fs is doing12:49
kameronLassel, _null, bah, i think i need to look up the difference again. :P12:49
Ngso you will probably lose data12:49
_nullNg, for sure. but the caching of xfs is much *more* intensive than the caching of ext312:49
TTilus_null: it sounds like better performance to me12:50
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_nullTTilus, true with the cost of data security :p12:50
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Ng_null: be that as it may, power loss and data loss go hand in hand ;)12:50
TTilus_null: and im not all that picky about loosing current recording12:50
kameronso, today is my first day of _really_ getting into the ubuntu system, i've had it installed for a few days though. i ran mdk and ydl for years before this ubuntu install. just wondering, is there a central configuration wizard, similar to Mandrake Control Center?12:50
_nullTTilus, if you got an usv, then no problem ;)12:50
joshuajoshua@savedmefromtheheap:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:50
joshuadebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process12:50
mwe_null: yeah xfs uses heavy caching. thus the high performance if you have dirs with thousands of files12:50
Diablo69i migh be going to bed, I have been up way to long12:50
Diablo69might*12:50
Seveasjoshua, then close all other dpkg/apt processes12:51
joshuaall windows were nicely closed12:51
Diablo69night12:51
joshuaany other method for doing this?12:51
_nullNg, just my personal experience. my /etc/fstab was screwed up one day, and the other /etc/shadow ;)12:51
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Hawk|-Problem: rsync -Cavuz /home/user/data user@10.10.10.10:/data/0/backup --password-file="/home/user/pwdfile" does not work! I got a password request from rsync, I tried the path of pwd file in " " and ' ' nothing changed12:51
nics__joshua: might be worth a reboot and doing it from a console rather than X12:51
Seveaskameron, Ubuntu just works, no configuration center needed :)12:51
TTilus_null: mm, heavy caching means heavy mem usage and the box doesnt have very much of that12:51
joshuahow to console at boot instead of x?12:51
kameronSeveas: cool. it's what i've been noticing. i haven't really needed to use a control center.. just.. wondering if there is one.12:51
TTilus(currently)12:51
mwe_null: I've never lost data on reiser even though I accidently turned off the power outlet on the wall a few times12:51
SeveasHawk|-, try rsync --passwordfile="something" -Cavus source dest12:51
_nullTTilus,yes ;)12:51
kameronSeveas: how is it so much different from debian?12:51
comicwhy is ubantu just as bodgie as XP12:52
_nullmwe, i'm speaking of xfs... reiser is ok ;)12:52
nics__ctrl+alt+F112:52
mwe_null: I know12:52
joshuathe millionaire touch12:52
Seveas!tell kameron about debian12:52
comicis it cuae it free?12:52
togtoghi, how can i convert a pdf-document, so that i have two pages on one?12:52
joshuathanks you again nics12:52
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mwe_null: xfs is using heavy caching like you mentioned :)12:52
_nullmwe, xfs is good too, if you have a lot of memory (>1gbyte) and an usv12:52
nics__lol no problem12:52
TTilus_null: what is usv?12:52
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woodwizzleanyone here use lilypond12:52
mwe_null: and a stable power supply :)12:52
_nullTTilus, uninteruptable power supply, in fact a battery that keeps your computer running if there's a power loss12:53
joshuahow to get to x after command>12:53
Hawk|-Seveas, no it doesn't work12:53
comicis ubuntu just for geeks?12:53
_nullTTilus, i say usv because i speak german ;)12:53
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ompaulelsewherecomic, not funny, it is for anyone12:53
Seveascomic, no12:53
joshuacomic ubuntu is the most friendl12:53
TTilus_null: o, im used to calling it ups12:53
nics__ctrl-alt+F712:53
kameroncomic: no, linux in general is12:53
Nikusancomic, no it's for human beings ;-)12:53
Seveasit's for Human Beings12:53
nics__crtl+alt even12:53
_nullTTilus, yes of corse, forgot that :p12:53
joshuaeven easier than dsl12:53
Hawk|-lol12:53
mwe_null: I also head xfs is great if you serve huge directories with thousands of files in them12:53
TTilus_null: i still dont say kvl even if im a finn  :)12:53
_nullyes12:53
joshuaand im only a geek by default=no money12:54
comicwhy is it flaky12:54
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nics__joshua: you have virtual screens on all the F keys with F7 running the X screen by default12:54
_nullmwe, i'm going for it on my database and mail servers12:54
Seveascomic, if you need help, just state your problems. Pointless ranting gets you kicked12:54
joshuawow cool nics12:54
comicits a valid Q12:54
ompaulelsewherecomic, I find it to be stable it must be something your doing, so what do you want to achieve12:54
omega_anybody know if a dual core cpu will cause installatio nissues?12:54
joshuaso ctrl-alt f7 open s x thats really neat12:55
matitacciahello! I have tried installing ubuntu. I got this error message during the setting of the clock. Setting the system clock...12:55
matitacciaata1: BUG: timeout without command12:55
Seveasomega_, not that I know of12:55
ompaulelsewhereomega_, it should not, have you got a specfic error you would like to discuss12:55
comicsure ok, from time to time the screen flickers with network traffic12:55
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matitacciathe problem lies in the HDD (not in the clock... obviously)!.12:55
omega_I get x grahics issues when I try to run firm dvd or install to my dual core. on this machine it went fine.12:55
Seveasmatitaccia, when exactly do you get that error12:55
nics__joshua: well technically it just takes you to that virtual console that happens to be running x12:55
Seveascomic, that's the network traffic applet I guess..12:55
joshuanics thats a nit tech heavy for my mind12:56
joshuabit12:56
nics__lol12:56
comicso its the OS then?12:56
joshuacomic12:56
togtog#ubuntu.de12:56
Seveastogtog, #ubuntu-de you mean12:56
ompaulelsewherecomic, no it is something only you are seeing - suggest you start a terminal (applications accessories terminal) and run this command -->> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<12:57
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comicI guess you get what you pay for with ubuntu12:57
joshuawhoa nics that was coooooolll12:57
joshuali,e magic12:57
kamva881HI all12:57
ompaulelsewherebye bye comic12:57
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ompaulelsewhereSeveas, :-)12:57
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nics__joshua: lol12:58
Seveasompaulelsewhere, it's almost like you knew what was going to happen12:58
kameronwell that was fun, kde _definitely_ crashed.'12:58
Seveaskameron, use gnome :)12:58
ompaulelsewhereSeveas, if you did not I would have had to ask someone :) you .....12:58
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joshuaim serious...i really want to comprehend how it does that12:59
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kameronSeveas: it's so gross, and i've been using kde/flux since i started using linux when i was 15.12:59
ompaulelsewherejoshua, what highlight your name when it is spoken, that is a function of the client12:59
joshuamy step dad lead a linux users group in houston...he passed away before giving me the linux grail12:59
joshua:(12:59
Seveaskameron, then use flux :)12:59
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kameronSeveas: heh. i mostly use flux when i need to really buckle down and get to work. kde is for observing it's prettiness, websurfing, music, games, etcetera.01:00
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grodiusHi how do I check my IP on my network as well as my router addy?01:00
ompaulelsewherejoshua, what exactly do you want to discover01:00
nics__joshua: the console driver treats each F key as a seperate login, i.e. as if you've logged in from multiple different machines, so all the sessions are independant from each other so you can leave something running on one screen and go to another to do something else01:00
ompaulelsewheregrodius, ifconfig01:00
idphoffimar : in section "Screen" i have set Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"01:00
idp but is not working01:00
nics__joshua: or you can just use X and do it all on one screen :-)01:00
ompaulelsewheregrodius, that will give you your ip01:01
joshuakindof a remote desktop ie 1234 on the task bar?01:01
joshuaor virutal i should say01:01
grodiusExternal or netowrk IP01:01
grodiusim looking for my router addy01:01
joshuaopaul im understating the magic of ctrl-alt-fkey land01:01
matitacciaSeveas, can you go private?01:01
nics__joshua: yes but idependant from each other, the virtual desktops in X are just an extention of your existing session, if you log out they all die01:02
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Seveasmatitaccia, no01:02
Nggrodius: ifconfig will show you your IP addresses, route will show you the default gateway IP01:02
joshuanics...ty im going to try the xorg config trick now01:02
ompaulelsewhereSeveas, catch ya later when I'm back at base01:02
nics__joshua: go for it01:02
hoffimaridp: i guess you have some subsections for every Depth, and above a DefaultDepth01:02
matitacciaSeveas, Filesystem seems mounted read-only. Skipping journal replay.01:03
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matitacciaCheckin internal tre...finishe.01:03
idpyes. what should i do01:03
Seveasmatitaccia, hmm, that's odd01:03
Seveasmatitaccia, on what kind of filesystem did you install Ubuntu?01:03
hoffimaridp: so what is the line in the Display Section with your Default Depth? the one with 1024?01:04
kameronwtf, uboto hates me.01:04
matitacciaSeveas, yeah.  It's a reiser.01:04
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Seveaskameron, ?01:04
sQuare which is the easiest way to upgrade aMule 2.0.3 -> 2.1.0 under ubuntu ? (thx)01:04
joshuasame error01:04
kameronSeveasL obotu i mean. and, he dislikes me.01:04
joshuareboot?01:04
Seveaskameron, what makes you think that?01:04
nics__joshua: reboot just to make sure everything is killed off01:04
joshuacigarette coffee reboot01:05
hoffimaridp: then maybe your graphic card driver doesn't support more. But you could install a new one. Did you just install ubuntu or is it an older installation?01:05
idphoffimar : DefaultDepth    1601:05
viviersfsQuare, go to other room01:05
matitacciaseveas, Now it's stuck by "calculating module dependecies..."01:05
viviersf:P01:05
Seveasmatitaccia, that can take a while on first boot01:05
joshuaback in a bit...im loving the ubuntu community much more friendly than fedora crowd01:05
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aftertafsQuare:  compile from source i think. not in repos yet01:05
kameronSeveas: you sent me that link about the ubuntu/debian differences. and i tried to get him to "!tell kameron about debian" in a pm and he just makes fun of me!!01:05
viviersfsQuare, is there a more recent version in the repos ?01:05
viviersfyo aftertaf01:05
Seveaskameron, hehe, the private msg syntax is different01:06
idphoffimar :  i change my monitor with another one01:06
Seveasjust type debian01:06
kameronSeveas, ohh, how is it?01:06
sQuarein synaptic is always the 2.0.301:06
aftertafviviersf:  hi CainSA :] 01:06
kameronSeveas, dang, arlight, ty01:06
joshuarebooting01:06
hoffimaridp: scroll down to Subsection Display where it says Depth 16 and tell what the Modes line says01:06
Seveaskameron, and he can be quite rude indeed :)01:06
matitacciaSeveas, now it's the second boot. Please tell me, do you have any clue or not? Cause I'm having troubles with linux since somedays now...01:06
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kameronSeveas: he has a foul mouth!01:06
aftertaflol kameron01:06
aftertaf!good bot01:07
ubotu:)01:07
Seveasmatitaccia, not really, never seen that error before. May be related to reiser which I don't use01:07
kameronlol, nice.01:07
kameron!bad bot01:07
ubotuno, you're a bad person kameron!01:07
kameronfucker!01:07
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Seveashaha01:07
aftertafloooool01:07
Seveas!stupid bot01:07
ubotustupid seveas01:07
matitacciaSeveas, is possible for you to address me to someone which could know something more?01:07
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Seveasmatitaccia, just repeat the problem here in the channel01:08
Seveasor on the ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com list01:08
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matitacciaYeah... I'm going to ctrl paste the whole channel...01:08
matitaccia:(01:08
lowman62g'mornin room01:09
GuIzZog'morning01:09
g0jumorning?01:09
g0ju(:01:09
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lowman62g0ju good afternoon or evening for you?01:09
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GuIzZoi'm lust wake up01:10
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lowman62GuIzZo: I see that :)01:10
g0ju1 pm in here01:10
GuIzZo:)01:10
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g0ju-in01:11
joshuaxserver-xorg not installed01:11
lowman62well good afternoon g0ju01:11
g0ju:)01:11
nics__joshua: apt-get install xserver-xorg ?01:11
tristan1 pm here also01:11
joshuawill try01:11
tristanjoshua : sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ? (fixed)01:11
lowman62joshua: xserver-xorg not installed? did you do a server install?01:11
joshuano recent i386 iso01:12
lowman62and x did not install?01:12
nics__cheers tristan, alway forget that tricky sudo thingy01:12
joshuadonka tristan (by the by im watching king arthur dvd tristan was a knight of the round table ;)01:12
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joshuanics yup fedora only did the root01:13
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joshuai learn something new every day with linux/gnu01:13
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joshuawow pun01:13
kameron!how are you?01:13
ubotukameron: eh, ok01:13
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joshualearn something gnu with everyday with linux01:14
nics__lol01:14
kameronjoshua: :P nice01:14
lowman62joshua: thank goodness for that huh? (RE: learning something new each day) or I would get bored LOL :P01:14
joshuayeah get board with gnu/linux01:14
joshuaso before i do my sudo aptget  i should explain my plieght01:15
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lowman62i think sometimes i deliberately break things just to figure a new and nifty way of fixing it01:15
joshuaim trying to configure a mythtv kernel with ubuntu has this been done?01:15
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joshuai get all my things broken01:15
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joshuaim the middle child01:16
kameronlowman62: i did that for a long time, until i lost a lot of date.01:16
kamerondata01:16
Tomcat_lowman62: Ubuntu has so few drawbacks, more and more people are doing that. ;)01:16
ericohi, someone can help me? >D01:16
joshuamythtv?01:16
kameronwhat the problem is erico?01:16
Tomcat_!ask01:16
lowman62kameron that is what my file server is for <grins>01:16
kameronhaha, lowman6201:16
lowman62Tomcat_ exacry!!01:16
joshuabueller?01:16
lowman62I am searching for an answer to your question joshua01:17
kameronerico: on a side note, a general rule in IRC is: don't ask to ask a question, just ask it. more effecient, wastes less space in channel, gods look kindly on it, reduces global warming, etc01:17
Seveaskameron, rofl01:17
iNikHi, is there anyone available who knows a lot about networking, this question has been bothering me for ages!01:17
kameron;)01:18
lowman62lol01:18
ericoI had win in my pc... then I resolv to Install ubuntu... but, now I cant access win so...01:18
GuIzZogood bye everybody!!!01:18
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kamerondamnit inik, read up a bit01:18
iNiksorry01:18
iNikbad timing on my part, + i needed specific help on networking, but i'll ask01:18
ericoduring the install process, a mark the fat 32 was the boot loader... is this the problem?01:18
kameronerico: you want to put the bootloader on a fat32 drive? is that what you mean?01:19
joshuaback too how to get display out of 640-40001:19
lowman62joshua: I found this may be helpful http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-24.html01:20
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iNikif I was to setup a dedicated fw (one box dedicated as a firewall) is there any benefit (like additional security) in leaving my router in place or should I just directly connect my modem to one nic and my local network (switch) to other nic01:20
nics__joshua: get the xserver package installed01:20
iNikcos at first i thought maybe connect my router to my firewall, and then firewall connects to switch01:20
lowman62iNik: personally I would use that computer for something else...router is good enough but that is up to you01:21
kameroninik: it seems redundant. either use the router, or use a system as a router. it's a personal choice.01:21
lowman62iNik: is this for at home?01:21
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nics__iNik: personal preference, I have my router in place as haven't the space for 'another' machine as a fw but still run local firewalls anyway01:21
iNikits just sitting there anyway, I could use additional security, yep its at home, it will support 3 PC's01:21
ericono... I put the bootloader on my fat32... and now... when I try to access the win98 on the grub dialog... the win don't begin01:22
lowman62iNiki: use it as a file server01:22
kameroninik: a router and local firewalls should be more than enough.01:22
lowman62iNik01:22
iNiki mean i can go 2 ways, either use ubuntu and Iptables or use a dedicated firewall distro such as ipcop, I'm still very new to linux but i should learn a bit whiechever method i use01:22
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ericoand in the fdisk status, my fat32 where the win is installed, is marked as no fat01:23
kameronhey, can you write on cd/dvds with pencils? i've tried about 10 pens and felts, and none work.01:23
iNikthing is, router doesnt offer traffic shaping, which sounds nice01:23
kameronomg, i bet a pencil would work!!ak sdkfnasd01:23
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nics__iNik: I would certainly recommend playing with things like iCop to get an uderstanding of security01:23
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nics__but don't overengineer your network01:24
Dreamglideranyone here use synergy  ?01:24
lowman62iNik: like i said it is a personal choice just seems redundant like kameron said...but it is a personal choice and well if it for the sake of edumacation i say go for it :)01:24
JoeBlowI installed quake 2 native,and i was able to run it from the installer fine, but now when i clock the icon, the window freezes up01:24
iNiktrue, then maybe i can setup a dual boot with ubuntu on a client01:24
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mcquaidHello, I only do I run X apps as root? I get this error cannot connect to X server :0.001:24
joshuasimple question....8mb in kilobytes01:24
joshua?01:24
mcquaidi solved this before in debian sid, but can't remember how01:24
Ngjoshua: 8*102401:24
Ngor 8192 :)01:25
joshuaty01:25
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iNikyep I think i will, cos i even made a small factor pc out of spare parts especially for the purpose, i gotta do something with it :P, its only a celeron machine but more then enough for what i need it for01:25
lowman62JoeBlow: I got hold of crossover pro yesterday ;)01:25
mcquaidand just to clarify i mean as root not via sudo01:25
mcquaidas sudo apps run fine01:25
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mcquaidbut i can't change file permissions with sudo01:25
nics__iNik: create a secure connection with your router, which you then leave alone as much as possible, and then play with dual boots etc, don't setup a system where you 'have' to reboot certain machines to get things done01:25
Ngmcquaid: you can with sudo chmod, surely?01:26
JoeBlowlowman62: whats that?01:26
lowman62mcquaid: you should be able to01:26
rikailater all , to bed with me o/01:26
mcquaidyes, but when i run a gui app like konqueror it doesn't let me01:26
Ngmcquaid: it's not an ideal solution, but you can run "xhost +" and root will have access, but you probably don't want to be running nautilus as root01:26
iNiknics_ , you  mean stick with basic router and dont setup dedicated box?01:26
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mcquaidi understand normally i don't but right now i'm migrating some old home stuff from another box, and the userid was different01:27
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lowman62JoeBlow: remember the wine thing yesterday? well I took someones advice about Crossover...brother that thing rocks...I have my Adobe Photoshop installed and am able to use it now...wine alone just puked on it...were you not trying to install a game yesterday?01:27
mcquaidso i want to change file permissions and bring them over01:27
nics__iNik: that would be my choice if you are going to be 'playing' with things like iptables and iCop, make sure the underlying network you have is stable and secure01:27
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JoeBlowlowman62: how can i get it?01:27
idphoffimar : my Admin working on it now btw where ican find gcc compiler is there's default installed with cd01:27
Vernon_did you have tried to use winamp linux alpha1 on ubuntu?01:28
lowman62JoeBlow: pm me01:28
dsonchello! i started the process build of garnoome 2.13.4 on ubuntu 5.10 and some problems: the build stops and the message: cairosimple.c:82: undefined reference to `cairo_surface_write_to_png'01:28
dsonc, when ompiling pango-1.11.101:28
iNikah right, cos I read the quickstart guide on ipcops and it seems pretty straightforward to setup, I mean I do want all traffic going thru my main firewall, yep i think i'll go for it01:28
kameronmcquaid: do you want to just enable the root account and use it/01:28
joshuasudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i ran this now how do i test that display range is setup correctly?01:28
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mcquaidit's already enabled01:28
mcquaidi just want root to be able to grab an X screen01:29
kameronmcquaid: "grab" ?01:29
mcquaidalways get this running as root cannot connect to X server :0.001:29
mcquaidsorry wrong terminology01:29
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kameronmcquaid: running what as root? trying to log in as root, or running an X program?01:29
mcquaidi can login fine as root from a term01:29
nics__iNik: fair enough, you can always port forward traffic from your router if required, problem is when you decide to re-install the ipcop machine 2 months down the line and lose internet connectivity01:29
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WebLOCHDoes anyone fancy  helping me quickly with some permissions I changed by accident ?01:30
JoeBlowlowman62: ok01:30
Dreamglideri have installed synergy via synaptic and i downloaded and extracted quicksynergy, now when i do ./configure i get this -> http://pastebin.com/49319001:30
mcquaidif i launch an xterm do su to root, launch fooX it fails01:30
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joshuain screen resolution window it still only allows for 640-40001:30
hoffimaridp: the gcc isn't installed by default as i remember, one has to install it, i think the name of the package is something like build-essential, but you can search for gcc in the forum i'd say01:30
nics__joshua: startx -- :101:30
joshuareboot after sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:30
joshua?01:30
nics__from command line or just killall gdm01:30
nics__or reboot :-)01:30
hoffimarit should be on the dvd though if u used that01:30
WebLOCHjoshua, hit CTRL ALT BACKSPACE to logout of xwind0z01:30
kameronmcquaid: sudo gedit... does that work?01:30
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joshuakk01:30
mcquaidyes that works fine01:31
kameronmcquaid: then i don't understand the problem?01:31
idphoffimar : tq much.01:31
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mcquaidwell i was trying konqueror with sudo but still couldn't change file permissions01:32
WebLOCHAnyone got three minutes to give me a permissions output ?01:32
mcquaidtrying with nautilus now to see01:32
Hawk|-Problem: rsync -Cavuz /home/user/data user@10.10.10.10:/data/0/backup --password-file="/home/user/pwdfile" does not work! I got a password request from rsync, I tried the path of pwd file in " " and ' ' nothing changed :2nd try01:32
sebas_who  close port 1026 and 1027 ?01:32
lowman62JoeBlow: you getting my pm?01:32
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joshuadisplay still lam 640-40001:32
kameronmcquaid: sudo nautilus works fine.. not for you though?01:32
mcquaidtrying now01:33
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joshuaerg is it my second hand vid card or my second hand lcd monitor dsl did it too fedora got display right but sound and video were goofy01:33
lowman62mcquaid: do this .. > sudo nautilus & <--& seperates it from the process01:33
lowman62JoeBlow: you here?01:34
nics__joshua: hmmm I presume that your xorg.conf has got multiple modlines in? can try changing the defaultDepth to 16 from 24 as that sometimes helps01:34
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mcquaidkameron, huh sudo works fine with nautilus01:34
JoeBlowlowman62: im not geting anythign new01:34
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lowman62JoeBlow: what irc client are you using?01:35
mcquaidi'm in kde right now and i was trying sudo  kfmclient openProfile filemanagement01:35
kameronmcquaid: then.. is there a problem.. or it's all good in the hood?01:35
JoeBlowlowman62:Xchat01:35
Steve||hey guys, how do i get complete access of my hdd's in ubuntu? before when i was using it, it said i was denied permission, but when i went through the administrator part, i was able to view it freely01:35
mcquaidbut that won't allow you to change file permissions for some weird reason01:35
j2daoshwhat is up people? got a question... anyone have an up-to-date list of all the repos available?01:35
JoeBlowSteve||: hey bro, what file systems?01:35
Steve||ntfs01:35
WebLOCH!easysource01:35
lowman62JoeBlow: look at the bottom of your xchat you see a window tab open there?01:35
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:35
JoeBlowSteve||: alright go to terminal01:35
joshuahmmmm something is wierd in my xorg01:35
Steve||yeah01:35
JoeBlowlowman62:yea im in the tab01:35
WebLOCHj2daosh, use !easysource01:36
j2daosh!easysource01:36
JoeBlowSteve||: ok type sudo nano /etc/fstab01:36
j2daoshthank you web01:36
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WebLOCHj2daosh, no probs01:36
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mcquaidwhat i want is a gui means of changing file permissions, but nautilus still doesn't have change all files and subfolders...01:36
kameronSteve|| or sudo vi /etc/fstab, if nano isn't installed01:36
JoeBlowSteve||: ok got it01:36
mcquaidand it's not working in konq via sudo for some reason01:36
lowman62JoeBlow: send me an email here at jkh@cogeco.ca01:36
Steve||ok wait up01:37
nics__joshua: whats weird?01:37
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kameronmcquaid: konq, as in konqueror? i just tried it, no problems.01:37
j2daoshWebLOCH, know what this means? "ubotu Someone already said that 22 seconds ago"01:37
lowman62JoeBlow: put JoeBlow in the subject line01:37
JoeBlowlowman62:got it01:37
JoeBlowSteve||: ok is it working?01:37
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mcquaidwell i was running konq as:  kfmclient openProfile filemanagement01:37
joshuai think i configured xorg correctly but my display option still only shows 640-400 it cuts everything off in half01:37
mcquaidwhich probably screwed something up01:37
mcquaidtrying simply konq01:37
Steve||well i can't really check now, coz i'm on my windows partition atm lol01:37
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mcquaidi was doing that to make it launch more in the file browser mode01:38
JoeBlowSteve||: oh, go into linux01:38
WebLOCHj2daosh, yeah it means I said it and he wants you to ready it01:38
JoeBlowSteve||: u have to do this in linux01:38
WebLOCHj2daosh,  ubotu For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:38
JoeBlowSteve||: u have to type that out, and then change some stuff in it01:38
j2daoshready it?01:38
j2daoshoh ok01:38
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Steve||ah ok01:38
Steve||what stuff do i have to change?01:38
MKAhi @ all01:38
bull-doglittle problem again.... when i tryin' to ./configure VyqChat i have: "C compiler cannot create executables export"01:38
WebLOCHj2daosh, read sorry :P01:38
j2daoshthank you again01:38
MKAhow can i user the bittorent client on ubuntu?01:39
WebLOCHj2daosh,  no problem, does the j2 in your nick denote java?01:39
JoeBlowSteve||: alright find the ntfs drive u want access to on the list, and use your arrow key to go where it says defualt01:39
kameronmcquaid: any luck?01:39
nics__joshua: want to mail to me at nics@sarginson.com I can take a quick look before I have to go01:39
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nics__the xorg.conf file that is01:39
JoeBlowSteve||: now replace defaults with  umask=022201:39
JoeBlowSteve||: got that so far?01:39
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pinucsetone think, i've installed qtparted ant ntfsprog can be dangerous resizing my windows ntfs partition?01:39
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joshuanic will do01:40
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JoeBlowlowman62:u get it?01:40
Steve||JoeBlow: sorry, i can't do anything atm because i'm on my windows partition and this is my only computer01:40
Steve||i'm writing down everythign though01:40
JoeBlowSteve||: ok come back when u get on linux01:40
JoeBlowSteve||: its a really quick fix01:40
Steve||i don't have the internet on linux actually :|01:40
mcquaidkameron, still trying my system is grinding away now, updatedb i think01:40
Steve||i don't know how to set it up01:40
JoeBlowSteve||: what! why not?01:40
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iNikSorry, back, I very much doubt it will require reinstalling, ipcop from what i'v seen is designed to be run 24/7, even updates are done via web interface, so downtime should be a minimum01:40
kameronmcquaid: okay01:40
JoeBlowSteve||: then whats the point of linux?01:41
nics__iNik: fair enough :-)01:41
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Steve||well01:41
Steve||i just installed it JoeBlow01:41
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Badm4nanyone here know about HTB ? like a CBQ ?01:41
lowman62JoeBlow: let me check now01:41
JoeBlowSteve||: yea me too, like 4 days ago, get ready for a crap load of learning, and always keep this room up in a window01:41
MKAno one can help?01:41
Steve||lol01:41
JoeBlowMKA: whats the problem?01:42
kameronMKA: what client is your favorite? many are supported by linux.01:42
iNikThanks for all your help guys, C ya soon :)01:42
Steve||how do i install hardware? a wireless usb lan card, to be specific01:42
kameronJoeBlow: he wants to run bt in ubuntu01:42
MKAi dont understand how to start bittorent01:42
JoeBlowkameron: doesnt that come pre-installed in all the new versions?01:42
iNikazureus is what i use, + its supported01:42
kameronJoeBlow: yes01:42
MKAist the gnome bittorent is was already installed on ubuntu by installing OS01:43
mixandgowhere can I find glibc ?01:43
MKA@ JoeBlow01:43
joshuasudo tar xvzf name.tar.gz then what?01:43
kameronMKA: yes, you can use that one, or use another one.01:43
JoeBlowMKA: at the top, applications > internet > bittorrent01:43
MKAyes but i wann start01:43
kameronMKA: start what?01:43
dotchadanyone here uses 7zip to unpack .rar files?01:43
MKAbittorrent01:43
MKAbut i need an matafile01:43
JoeBlowMKA: try www.bittorrent.com , whenu click a .torrent file, it should automaticalls use bittorrent01:43
kameronMKA: do you know the process of how bt is used?01:44
MKAmetafile01:44
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JoeBlowMKA: when u download a .torrent, thats the meta file01:44
MKAno i dint know kamerin01:44
MKAhmmn so where to get these files?01:44
JoeBlowMKA: when u need to use it, it will automatically work for you01:44
kameronMKA: they're all over the web, for example:01:44
JoeBlowMKA: commonly, most things u get off the net for linux are now in torrent format01:44
MKAaha so in jusst ned the .torrent file01:44
dotchador, what do you use for unpacking .rar files?01:44
JoeBlowlowman62:I didnt get the e-mail, did u get mine?01:45
docta_vdotchad: unrar01:45
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kameronMKA: http://www.ubuntulinux.com/download there you can get torrents for the distros. that's the "meta file" for bit torrent, the program01:45
JoeBlowMKA: yep01:45
MKAahhaaa know i understood01:45
MKAok thx01:45
dotchadthanks01:45
JoeBlowkameron: u see that, i was asking the same questions 2 days ago, and now here i am helping out, hopefully with karma that will help me with my next q, lol01:46
kameronMKA: the torrent file gives information about the tracker (the thing that keeps track of leechers and seeders), and has the file size, etc. the torrent file in turn passes information about the specific file you want, and bit torrent (the program) downloads it.01:46
kameronJoeBlow: :P good stuff man.01:46
JoeBlowkameron: Its just my fucking windows games that give me trouble in linux01:46
JoeBlowkameron: I might end up just dual botting into windows for them01:46
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kameronJoeBlow: it's a fine art, running windows games in linux. wine is no cake walk.01:47
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docta_vJoeBlow: are you using cedega?01:47
JoeBlowdocta_v: no, native installs01:47
kameronJoeBlow: i dual booted for years, but just today wiped out my windows partition, and am forcing myself to get CS:S running in linux this weekend :P01:47
lowman62JoeBlow: I got it..just give a minute or so I am putting something up on my website that is to big to send by email then I will send you the url01:47
JoeBlowlowman62: sweet01:48
docta_vhmmm...cedega works great from what i understand01:48
lowman62JoeBlow: sweet is right ;)01:48
JoeBlowdocta_v: I installed quake 2, and after the loki installer did it, i did the start button, worked fine, then i closed it, went to the dir, clicked the icon, and it freezes now01:48
JoeBlowkameron: half life 2 code just froze up my computer to much01:48
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kameronJoeBlow: damn. i might not have much luck then.01:48
lowman62JoeBlow: about 6 minutes01:49
JoeBlowkameron: I would love to be able to play cs:s , but every 10 minutes it freezes for me on windows, tha was the idea with going to linux, seeing if it would make it more stable01:49
joshuasimple question regarding what to do with your tar xvzf file when it has no text describing install...01:49
kameronjoshua: hmm?01:49
JoeBlowlowman62: K, i need a smoke real fast01:49
joshuai untared it now what?01:49
sexcopter8000mhi, i just want to share some files between my laptop and desktop, both on breezy, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpNFSHowTo and it sounds mightily complicated, does it not get any simpler??01:49
Steve||anyone?01:50
kameronJoeBlow, that's interesting, hopefully it will work out for you. we'll both be attempting the same project! keep me up to date, kay/01:50
lowman62JoeBlow: me too01:50
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GURTi wish ubuntu had an application that creates .torrent files01:50
Steve||i've got the driver for my wireless lan card, but i don't know how to install it01:50
kameronjoshua: you untarred it, now what format is it in?01:50
camer0ffls01:50
kameronGURT: there is one01:50
mcquaidkameron, no i still get an error01:50
GURTwhat is it?01:50
joshuakameron: in terminal01:50
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joshuait has a huge list of files01:51
camer0nls01:51
kameronGURT: no idea. try 'apropos torrent' or something. i know it's possible though.01:51
camer0nsorry01:51
JoeBlowlowman62: ya01:51
GURTheh01:51
JoeBlowkameron: ya01:51
kameronjoshua: so it's extracted then.. you're done.01:51
erUSULSteve||, what model of wireless card do you have?01:51
joshuai dont have to make or configure?01:51
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Hawk|-sexcopter8000m,  do you want to access them from both ? or do you want to backup the files01:51
Steve||well its a NE-WUSB V201:51
kameronjoshua: what program is it?01:52
Steve||but when i looked it up, a site showed me to an Atmel driver01:52
erUSULSteve||, does the driver come in tar.gz or tgz form?01:52
Steve||atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz201:52
joshuaastrolog5.2001:52
joshuaastrolog-5.2001:52
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kameronjoshua: i've never used it before, don't know what it is. have you consulted documentation.. online, or man?01:52
joshuacant find documentation on install only use01:52
kameronGURT: 'btmakemetafile'01:53
joshuait's a famous astrology program01:53
kameroni guess so, i'm not much of a meteorologisy myself joshua :P01:53
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GURTthanks01:53
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JoeBlowk im back01:53
kameronGURT: i don't know what that is, but it's worth looking in to01:54
sexcopter8000mHawk|- I guess I'd like to move files both ways, yeah01:54
joshuaarg01:54
Steve||erUSUL: is that format good enough?01:54
erUSULSteve||, do tar xvjf  atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz201:54
sexcopter8000mHawk|- but if i could do everything from the laptop that'd be fine01:54
GURTnah its perfect01:54
joshuauntarred>make> $nameofprogram shazzam your using program?01:54
kameronGURT: good :)01:54
Steve||erUSUL: sorry, i'm actually on my windows partition at the moment and this is my only computer01:54
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Steve||but i'm writing everythign down01:55
Steve||so if i copy down everythign i'm guessing it should be fine01:55
Steve||so after i type that down what do i do next erUSUL?01:55
joshuamore sugar itsd gonna be a long one my display is still alll goofy01:55
Hawk|- sexcopter8000m , you can do a rsync between the pc's, but then you have the files on both maschines. other way would be some samba shares01:56
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sexcopter8000mHawk|- can you use samba between two linux machines?01:56
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erUSULSteve||, enter the directory01:56
Steve||yeah01:57
erUSULand read the README and INSTALL file01:57
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Syrusanyone know more specifically what the wireless networking improvements in dapper drake will be?01:57
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, sure , smbmount or mount, it works both ways, just read the man pages01:57
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sexcopter8000mHawk|- i had trouble setting up samba an earlier time, see the highlight of this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=Q:%20I%20don't%20have%20a%20'Windows%20Networking'%20section,%20only%20Hostname%20and%20Domain-name.%20What%20do%20I%20do%20now?01:58
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lemics_does anyone know how to make an wireless/usb dlink device work on a ppc and ubuntu01:58
sexcopter8000moops sorry about the paste guys01:58
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Seveaslemics_, probably not at all01:58
Steve||erUSUL: i'm guessing those files are the ones in the driver package?01:59
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Steve||because i can actually only see a readme file01:59
kameronlemics_: i was going to say the same as Seveas.01:59
lemics_@seveas why not ?01:59
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Seveaslemics_, afaik it needs ndiswrapper, hence 386 only01:59
lemics_i tried with linux-wlan-ng but the prism2_usb module doesn't work02:00
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erUSULSteve||, that's the one you need to read02:00
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fatcow_What ftpd do you recommend?02:00
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Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, mhh the highlight doesn't work for me02:01
ubuntu_lo02:01
spacey_kifatcow_,  vsftpd02:01
fatcow_Got any good docs or guides for it as well?02:01
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Steve||ok thanks02:01
docta_vfatcow_: the man page02:01
Steve||i'm off02:01
Steve||hopefully i can see you guys again :S02:01
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Steve||bye02:02
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, ok, i found it02:02
sexcopter8000mHawk|- about a third of the way down there's a question in triple-brackets saying "I don't have a windows networking section..."02:02
Steve||thanks for all the help02:02
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ubuntu_please  can  anyone  tell  me  what  i need  for hardware  to  use  ubuntu, i mean  cpu  and  mem  and  space  on harddisk ?02:02
fatcow_k02:02
lowman62JoeBlow: I sent you an email ;)02:03
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, you don't need that. You can work with ip addresses as well02:03
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JoeBlowlowman62:sweet02:03
ubuntu_i have  to know  what  the  min  spec  are  ?02:03
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lowman62JoeBlow: yw ;)02:04
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, i never used the wins settings02:04
Seveasubuntu_, a correctly working spacebar is one of the minimum specs02:04
Hobbseehehe @ Seveas02:04
ubuntu_hehehe  sorry02:04
JoeBlowlowman62: ;)02:04
Seveasubuntu_, and for gnome i'd say 2gb drive, 256 mem and 500 mhz is the minimum to let it run02:04
Seveasfor fluxbox less02:04
aeon17xAww, I think he can do with a double space bar.02:04
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, but your network is running? you can ping between ur 2 pc's02:04
Seveasand for an X-less system even less02:04
ubuntu_oke tnx   m8yt02:05
sexcopter8000mHawk|- just a moment, the two machines in question aren't connected, i'll do that now :p02:05
ubuntu_bye  all02:05
Seveasciao02:05
lowman62ubuntu_: make sure you have a decent network card...and nothing made for windows only LOL02:05
ubuntu_oke  tnx02:06
kameronbbl tea time02:06
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vkive installed wine with automatix, how to run it?02:08
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lowman62vk: just run a windows executable and wine will launch it02:09
Seveasvk, automatix is crap02:09
Seveas!automatix02:09
ubotuI heard automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!02:09
vkseveas, yea i know, but im lazy :P02:09
vktnx lowman6202:09
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lowman62vk: better to use crossover02:10
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alexis_y a t'il quelqu'un pourc m'aider?02:11
erUSUL!fr02:11
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais02:11
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alexis_oki merci02:11
erUSULalexis_, np02:12
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fatcow__Hi02:12
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bull-doghow can i switch from one ver. gcc to another?02:15
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m,02:15
sexcopter8000mHawk|- just got them connected and pinging ok02:15
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, query02:16
sexcopter8000mHawk|- not very savvy on networking, but i gave them each a 169.254.1.1 and .2 ip02:16
sexcopter8000mok02:16
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Hawk|-ss02:16
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razahello everyone02:18
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, ok did you installed samba on one pc?02:18
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lemics_hi raza02:18
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joshuasomeone help02:19
Badm4nwhy icant connect my yahoo messenger ( from client ) i use this rule : http://pastebin.com/49324202:19
joshuaxorg is not allowing me to get out of 640-40002:19
Hawk|-joshua, ask02:19
sexcopter8000mHawk|- i know it's installed on my laptop, but can't recall installing it on the desktop, i'll do that shall i?02:19
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Hawk|-sexcopter8000m,  no you only need one smbd server02:20
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vkhow to uninstall skype?02:20
joshuai went through the config tried a few different settings, monitor kept telling me signal was out of range02:20
sexcopter8000moh ok Hawk|-02:20
RealJowivk: latest version is at Seveas' repos02:20
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Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, first you have to conifigure the /etc/samba/smb.conf02:20
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RealJowi!seveas02:20
ubotuwell, seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:20
lowman62joshua: did you try lowering the refresh rate?02:21
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sexcopter8000mjoshua, what is the device driver for the graphics? if it's not vesa, try that02:21
RealJowivk: sorry, UN install?02:21
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RealJowivk: apt-get remove skype02:21
thazzaHey all.. i am having xmms issues in breezy, can anyone help?02:21
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vkRealjowi, sorry ive ment install, (thats for not sleeping enough) :P.. tnx02:21
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joshuaall i know how to do is dpkg--configure xserver-xorg02:22
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lowman62vk: sudo apt-get remove skype02:22
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kameronvk: speaking of skype, i picked up linux journal this month.. GREAT walkthrough on setting up a skype server (skypein and skype out) for use with the phone lines in your hours that are already wired in, too cool.02:22
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nics__joshua: I'm back for a bit now, you want to mail me your xorg.conf file02:22
kameronhouse02:22
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, just like it is in the wiki example Section: Configuring your computer as a server02:23
vkkamonron :D02:23
sexcopter8000mHawk|- shall i just work through the "Configuring.... heh, ok, i'll have a go with it then02:23
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joshuain the xorg setup it auto detects lcd monitor i try to select 800-600  then i reboot and monitor will only ctrl.altf1 into term to reset dpkg xorg back to 640-400 is getting ubuntu to open up disply supposed to be this difficult?02:23
faizanhey.. does anyone have any links to a live webcast of the larry page keynote address tonight??02:23
andrey_privet jorik02:24
thazzaScrap that, looks like i am having Nvidea Segmentation faults.. Grrr. anyone can help?02:24
joshuanic how do?02:24
jorikwho me ?02:24
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nics__can you get off the machine?02:24
joshuayes i have a windoze box in another room02:24
RealJowijoshua: see if there are any refresh rates present in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. if there are, remove the horizsync and put 60 for VertRefresh02:25
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joshuacan i file manager to etc/x11/xorg.conf and manipulate file from there?02:26
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BigKahunaa little of topic maybe but what the heck. Using an ubuntu live CD can you modify the admin password on an XP machine?02:26
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nics__joshua: you could try making sure that only 1024x768 is selected when you get the option, i.e. the only one with an 'x' against it, then when its finished edit the xorg.conf and make sure that the defaultdepth is set to 16, what card and and spec is it you are using?02:26
piratePenguindoes ubuntu have a tool for changing which init scripts are run at boot?02:26
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JoeBlowhow do i run an rpm file?02:26
joshuasi card sdm51 sony lcd monitor02:27
RealJowijoshua: simplest solution "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (if you have X running)02:27
lowman62JoeBlow: are you talking about what i sent you ?02:27
JoeBlowlowman62: no, i havent used that yet02:27
JoeBlowim about to02:27
joshuajoe blow -i name.rpm02:27
ploomhey02:27
lowman62JoeBlow: rpm -i foo.rpm02:27
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lowman62JoeBlow sudo most likely02:27
ploomcould I update my /etc/acpi/sleep.sh to stop and start alsa-utils??02:28
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joshualowman thnks02:28
JoeBlowlowman62: -bash: rpm: command not found02:28
lowman62joshua: yw...y? LOL :P02:28
ploomI mean what would happen, if later some package install would try to update /etc/acpi/sleep.sh?02:28
lowman62JoeBlow: sudo rpm -i foo.rpm02:29
Badm4nwhy icant connect my yahoo messenger ( from client ) i use this rule : http://pastebin.com/49324202:29
JoeBlowlowman62: sudo: rpm: command not found02:29
JoeBlowlowman62: do i need a package for it?02:30
lowman62JoeBlow: if that does not work then type "r" at the bash prompt and hit tab twice and when it asks if you want to view all say yes..and scroll through to see if rpm is listed02:30
JoeBlowlowman62: i foudn a package and now it works02:30
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RealJowibetter yet, "whereis rpm"02:30
lowman62JoeBlow: okay02:30
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lowman62whereis is good too or slocate and 50 other ways to arrive at the same destination LOL :P02:31
bull-dogwhat can i do with "C compiler cannot create executables export" error if i already have build-essential???02:31
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lowman62bull-dog: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1703302:32
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bull-doglowman62: thanx...02:34
lowman62bull-dog: yw :)02:34
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foampeacehello02:34
lowman62hello foampeace02:34
foampeacehow do you compile .pb purebasic files in linux?02:34
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lowman62foampeace: one sec I will find that for you02:35
foampeacelowman62: i mean a ubuntu source if possible02:35
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megabyteshi all. how can i get access 2 root privelages in ubuntu?02:35
Anderssudo02:35
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kameronmegabytes, sudo, like anders said02:35
jendamegabytes: sudo is good enough - use of real root is not recommended.02:35
Blippewhy oh why does the wiki need a certificate for viewing?02:35
lagahello people! i'm trying to compile a kernel module (kqemu). it looks like i need some kernel headers, but 'linux-kernel-headers' is not the right package. what should i do now?02:35
jendaBlippe: It's a launchpad issue... no one knows :)02:36
Tomcat_laga: Get linux-kernel-headers-<yourversion>02:36
kameronjenda: i'm kind of disappointed that ubuntu came with such n00b protection. it may not be reccomended, but it's more appropriate in some instances.02:36
foampeacelowman62: thanks02:36
RealJowiubotu, tell megabytes about sudo02:36
lowman62foampeace: google gave me this http://compile-error.butony.info/ let me know02:36
megabyteswell i need 2 copy sum files for my modem installation into /usr/local/bin02:36
jendakameron: mm... I never saw the need ... you can use sudo -i or something02:37
Tomcat_laga: Nah, linux-headers-<yourversion>02:37
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lagaTomcat_: wow, that's weird. i only have one linux-kernel-headers. maybe my sources.list is broken02:37
lagaTomcat_: well, sounds good ;)02:37
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kameronjenda: how is sudo -i any different than just being root?02:37
alphyanybody help with burning a DVD?02:37
foampeacelowman62: i dont see anything there02:37
Tomcat_kameron: It's not afaik02:37
joshuait says my Section "Screen"02:37
joshua        Identifier      "Default Screen"02:37
joshua        Device          "Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 630/730 PCI/AGP VG$        Monitor         "SDM-M51"02:37
joshua        DefaultDepth    2402:37
joshua        SubSection "Display"02:37
joshua                Depth           102:37
joshua                Modes           "720x400" "640x480" "640x400"02:37
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joshua        EndSubSection02:37
joshua        SubSection "Display"02:37
RealJowijoshua: do not paste here02:38
jendajoshua: DO NOT PASTE02:38
JoeBlowlowman62: ok dude im downloading it02:38
joshuasry02:38
kameronjoshua: /topic02:38
student!tell joshua about paste02:38
jendakameron: ah you're right...02:38
studentjoshua, read the message from ubotu02:38
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joshuaubuntu only wants me in 640-48002:38
Badm4nwhy icant connect my yahoo messenger ( from client ) i use this rule : http://pastebin.com/493242 and my ubuntu's rc local http://pastebin.com/49327002:38
lowman62JoeBlow: okay let me know when you are done ;)02:38
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JoeBlowlowman62:k, i need another smoke02:39
alphyany help burning a DVD?  please?02:39
RealJowijoshua: paste your xorg.conf in full in the pastebin02:39
JoeBlowalphy: tried GnomeBacker?02:39
RealJowijoshua, have you read the resolution fix?02:39
lowman62JoeBlow: me too :P02:39
RealJowi!fixresolution02:39
ubotuRealJowi: I give up, what is it?02:39
RealJowi!resolution02:39
ubotufrom memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:39
RealJowiah02:40
lagaTomcat_: aptitude says "No candidate version found for kernel-headers-2.602:40
joshuareal no02:40
alphyJoeBlow, well, I have K3b but I downloaded this huge file and I'm not sure what I need to burn.  Do I need to do it a special way?  never done this before02:40
ploomnice, thats why there is STOP_SERVICES= in the acpi-support file :-)02:40
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kokoko1hi02:40
RealJowijoshua: check that link that ubotu spat out02:40
verizwhy doesnt phppgadmin support php5 ? with apt-get...02:40
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Vernon_alphy: is a normal file or an .iso?02:41
lowman62alphy: try this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#burn02:41
docta_valphy: an iso file? yea that's what a cd image is02:41
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JoeBlowalphy, sorry bro, but ive never burnt a dvd in my life02:41
JoeBlowlowman62: sh install-crossover-pro-5.0.0.sh ?02:41
kokoko1I heard about ubuntu server, do i have to download an ISO for server separatly OR typing "server" while installing ubuntu will do the same?02:41
Tomcat_laga: Search for kernel-headers and install the appropriate version...02:41
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RealJowikokoko1: just type "server"02:41
kokoko1okay thanks02:41
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alphydocta_v,  I know this shouldn't be done here but, an example of the file typs are:  saw2-dev.r47  do I just burn these to a DVD?02:42
lowman62JoeBlow: ./install-crossover-pro-5.0.0.sh <--just like that and follow the instructs on your screen02:42
lowman62JoeBlow: no sudo02:42
lagaTomcat_: i did. i only get two results and both are not installable, only referenced by another package.02:42
alphydocta_v, there is 89 of those numbered files like that02:42
docta_valphy: nope that's a rar file...need to extract it02:42
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docta_vyou can use unrar in linux to do it02:42
docta_vor winrar in windows02:42
Vernon_alphy: is a spanned rar file02:43
lowman62alphy: try this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#burn02:43
megabytesahh :( there's no GART driver for the sis 661FX chipset!02:43
JoeBlowlowman62: it says i have to do it as root02:43
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deFrysk!info unrar-nonfree02:43
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB02:43
jendaHey... what's the most efficient way of reinstalling Ubuntu? I have a spare partition of 14 G...02:43
alphydocta_v, so I just extract each on of these and then burn them to a disk?02:43
lowman62JoeBlow: sudo chown youruser:youruser nameoffile02:43
jendaThat is, to keep as much of the settings as possible02:44
docta_vyou'll get either an iso or some video files02:44
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lowman62JoeBlow: then chmod +x <name of file>02:44
NotFhow can you play mp3 files in ubuntu?02:44
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JoeBlowlowman62: it just gives me shit if down install it into root directory02:44
JoeBlowlowman62: i hate all this harddrive premission stuff02:44
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RealJowiubotu, tell NotF about mp302:45
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Vernon_alphy: unrar blahblah.rar02:45
lowman62JoeBlow: yu need to change the file ownership to your user profile02:45
Tomcat_laga: Weird.02:45
lowman62JoeBlow: I will send instructs by email02:45
JoeBlowlowman62: it just installs whatever windows prog u want02:45
Vernon_the files with numbers in extension are automagically handled by rar itself02:45
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JoeBlowlowman62: yea that woudl be great02:45
lagaTomcat_: yep! my sources.list looks good and i did an aptitude update just to be on the safe side02:45
lowman62JoeBlow: that is what it does..and it grabs whatever dependencies are necessary...hold on instructs are on the way02:46
JoeBlowlowman62: k, can I use it for games?02:46
alphyVernon, tried that said it wasn't a supported file type02:47
noobiemorning all.02:47
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sexcopter8000mHawk|- still there? I tried, but didn't understand a lot of it, but in any case this happened in the terminal which seemed very odd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/668202:48
noobieneed help with a wireless card and ubuntu02:48
Vernon_alphy: do you have an idea of what these files are?02:48
paulproteus|laptnoobie: Well, tell us what help you need.02:48
joshua8mb in kb is?02:48
sexcopter8000mjoshua 8*1024?02:49
Vernon_alphy: is there a files with an extension without numbers?02:49
noobiedon't know how to make ubuntu turn the card on02:49
deFryskjes02:49
alphyVernon_,  I downloaded a torrent for a movie.  (I know, bad bad boy).  I got all these files and now I'm wanting to make the DVD.  how?02:49
joshuaty02:49
noobieit see it as hardware...02:49
kameronalphy: what files are they? vobs?02:49
noobieI have the windows driver files.02:49
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docta_vhe hasn't even extracted the rar yet02:49
alphyKameron, one of them is....02:49
noobieit happens to be a broadcom wireless card02:50
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kameronalphy: list the files for me02:51
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Vernon_docta_v: if i remember right, the parts of a rar files are like file.001, not file.r0102:51
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lowman62JoeBlow: you got mail02:51
docta_vVernon_: can be either way02:51
Vernon_ok02:52
alphyKameron, saw2-dev.r00 - saw2-dev.r89.  I open them and it has a .img file in there02:52
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JoeBlowlowman62: kewl02:52
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Determinist!w32codecs02:52
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:52
Vernon_alphy: maybe is better you download unrar from the rar site. the binary02:52
alphyKameron, it goes from .r00 to .r89 with all them numbers in between02:52
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kameronalphy: let's pretend it's called Free-movie.roo, that's what it's actually called right? i'm not helping you bootleg Saw 2, that was just an example?02:53
Vernon_alphy: oops, not unrar, rar for linux. the evil proprietary version of rar02:53
JoeBlowlowman62: can u access idsoftware.com its really giving me a hardtime02:53
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alphyKameron, well, yeah,  freemovie.r00 with zeros not o's02:54
kameronalphy: unrar the packages, and extract the img. then burn the img to a disc just like you would an iso, or mount it in a loopback under linux, and you'll be able to play it.02:54
kameronalphy: yeah, after i typed the oo's, i realized i meant to type 00's.02:54
lowman62JoeBlow: let me try..one sec02:55
alphykameron, okay so I just burn all the img files on a dvd?  do I need to burn them any special way?02:55
DespenCan someone help? I want to install ScummVm 0.8.. but I have problems with dependeces.02:55
Vernon_JoeBlow: i can't. is still in "connecting"02:55
kameronalphy.. list the files WITHIN the rar file. what are they?02:55
kameronDespen: try installing with apt-get, it's a dependency solver.02:55
lowman62JoeBlow: slower than the second coming of christ ...still not loading yet :P02:56
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JoeBlowVernon_: same with me,i think its down, and right now i need the damn quake 2 binaries from it02:56
alphyKameron, freemovie.img in every one of the files02:56
JoeBlowlowman62: i think its down02:56
andrey_can aby one help me?02:56
lowman62JoeBlow: I am on a t1...I think it is safe to say they are down02:56
andrey_can any one help me?02:56
jendaandrey_: shoot02:56
JoeBlowanyone know how to set up qemu on ubuntu to run windows xp in a window02:56
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lowman62andrey_: sure if i can..what is it?02:57
andrey_I install fresh ubuntu02:57
deltron!xubuntu02:57
ubotuhmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu02:57
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andrey_I have two Net Cards02:57
lowman62andrey_: fresh ubuntu be good02:57
andrey_one - to Internet02:57
Vernon_JoeBlow: do you must also install it?02:57
alphykameron, so what do I do?02:57
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andrey_second to local network02:57
lowman62andrey_: two nic cards can be conffrusing02:57
Vernon_JoeBlow: xp, not qemu02:57
kameronalphy: do you know how to extract rar files?02:58
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JoeBlowvernon_: how do i do it?02:58
oNe^somewherecan some1 tell me how to update amsn the easy way plz ???02:58
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alphykameron, yeah, but, all the files are named the same02:58
oNe^somewhereto the new version02:58
JoeBlowvernon_: i want to run windows within linux02:58
lowman62andrey_: what are you doing with the other?02:58
RealJowiandrey_: you want to share your inet connection?02:58
Vernon_JoeBlow: ok. windows is actually installed in any partition of your harddrive?02:58
andrey_There is no ping  by name to other computers in lokal network02:59
Despenkameron: But I can only find version 0.71 if I use apt-get02:59
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alphyKameron, are they all just pieces of 1 file?02:59
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Vernon_JoeBlow: *is windows actually...02:59
RealJowiandrey_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection02:59
kameronalphy: i know. the way rars often work, is one file is split up into many others, and then packaged in a .zip or something. very common. just extract the .img from any one of them, and it will extract each piece from each rar file, and you'll have one .img02:59
kameronalphy: exactly02:59
JoeBlowvernon_: yea02:59
andrey_ok thanks02:59
thazzaJust wanted to say.. I fixed the problem myself.. and no it was not in any forums or any google searchs.02:59
thazzaWas a major Nvidia driver issue03:00
JoeBlowvernon_: but i want to reinstall it anyway to 32 bit windows03:00
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kameronDespen: apt-get install it, it will isntall all dependencies, then uninstall the package, and install the recent one! it's one way of doing things. assuming the dependencies between versions is the same.03:00
alphykameron, so I just extracted each one of them into a folder and it will put it's self back together and then burn that file on a disk and magically I have a movie on DVD?03:00
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, take a look into /etc/init.d if there ist a smb or samba script03:00
kameron!dpkg03:01
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kameron!tell Despen about dpkg03:01
Vernon_JoeBlow: imho, is better to install windows in the native way, without qemu. installing xp with qemu takes more than 4 hours, on my machine03:01
kameronor, you can install all the packages in a string together. Despen03:01
lowman62JoeBlow: do you have more than one computer?03:01
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, if not i think your samba is nor installed correctly03:01
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kameronalphy: no, just extract one of them to a folder. each piece will be automatically extracted from each rar.03:01
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JoeBlowlowman62: no03:02
Despenkameron: Ah, ok.. thanks03:02
JoeBlowvernon_: can i install windows native and then run it as a window within ubuntu03:02
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Vernon_JoeBlow: yes, with qemu03:02
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JoeBlowvernon_: ok how do i do it=03:03
lowman62JoeBlow: bummer...what i did before was use citrix and pull my windows desktop up within a browser in linux...the best of both worlds03:03
Noriegahow do I change specific keys in my keyboard layout?03:03
JoeBlowvernon_: but i cant do that with one computer?03:03
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JoeBlowlowman62: but i cant do that with one computer?03:03
lowman62JoeBlow: nah! you need at least two...or in my case am not happy unless I have 12 LOL :P03:03
NoriegaI want altgr+c to be  in stead of , where can I change this?03:04
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JoeBlowlowman62: damn03:04
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Vernon_JoeBlow: you can. install windows then back to linux. "qemu -hda /dev/hda1"03:04
sexcopter8000mHawk|- no samba or smb, what is it to reinstall, sudo apt-get <something> samba?03:04
lowman62JoeBlow: actually I own more than that..just have 12 setup at the moment03:04
kamerondespen, what i mean by installing them all in a string, is like this: 'sudo dpkg --install foo.deb bar.deb example.deb other.deb etc.deb'03:04
JoeBlowlowman62: u must be rich03:04
lowman62JoeBlow: nope not rich...just get a lot of computers from people that bought new ones..I take the old rickety windows beaten junk and fix it and install linux and voila it becomes part of my network ;)03:05
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kameronlowman62: ditto. i have 6 running atm. all old junkers brought back to life by linux.03:06
lowman62<--neighborhood computer repair guy03:06
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JoeBlowlowman62: sweet03:06
kameronlowman62, well, all but my main one that i'm on now.03:06
Vernon_lowman62: dummy says "this computer is obsolete"03:06
lowman62kameron: me too...this one i am on is my baby..brand spankin new custom built by moi ;)03:07
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Vernon_lowman62: are they an openmosix cluster?03:07
JoeBlowlowman62: I run,  qemu -hda /dev/hdb103:07
JoeBlow , and it says warning: could not open /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation03:07
JoeBlowqemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/hdb1'03:07
kameronlowman62: i built mine in june, so it's fairly new03:07
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Jowi!qemu03:07
ubotuqemu is, like, an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=103:07
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lowman62Vernon_: I just have them set in groups of 403:08
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Vernon_JoeBlow: have you windows in the first partition of your primary slave?03:08
lowman62oh i forgot i have a beaten up xbox I use as my web development server...that is where you downloaded from JoeBlow ;)03:09
JoeBlowVernon_, yea03:09
JoeBlowlowman62: thats pretty fucking cool03:09
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Despenkameron: Still problems... scummVM 0.80 wants libflac6, I have libflac7 installed..03:09
JoeBlowVernon_, I run linux on my sata drive03:09
kameronDespen, haha... that sucks. hmm. i'll have a look for you.03:10
j2daoshhey... anyone know how to set the auto identify option with nickserv? and i also have a question concerning adding programs to my programs list in the gui...basically all i have to do is install the prog and then if it doesn't show up go to my /usr/bin/, find it there and create a target path link right?03:10
JoeBlowVernon_, windows crashes so much on new hardware, i wouldnt waste my fast harddrive on it03:10
Vernon_JoeBlow: maybe you must use sudo, to have the rights to use the device03:10
lowman62JoeBlow: it is not the prettiest stuff in the world in fact half the stuff I have has no covers on it and wires all over the place LOL03:10
JoeBlowVernon_: that fixed it03:10
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Vernon_JoeBlow: works?03:11
JoeBlowVernon_: a window popped up telling me booting from harddise03:11
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lowman62brb coffee & smoke break03:12
lowman62;)03:12
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JoeBlowVernon_: is it supposed to take so long to boot form the harddrisk03:12
JoeBlowVernon_: its 64 bit windows, i betcha it wont even run over 32 bit linux03:12
fyrzendam system just went haywire on me03:12
Vernon_JoeBlow: i don't now if qemu emulates 64 archs03:13
fyrzencompositing + Nvidia drivers 8178 = unstable03:13
JoeBlowwhat i like about living in europe is hand rolled ciggarettes, when i did that in america, ppl thought i was smoking a joint lol03:13
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, apt-get remove samba and then apt-get install samba , dont know how to repair a paket03:13
kameroni'm new to deb, alway used rpm.. how do you search with apt-get?03:13
Despenkameron: Thanks again...03:13
deltrondpkg-reconfigure samba03:13
kameronlike.. what's the equivilant of "urpmi --fuzzy"  if anyone knows what i mean.03:14
kameronyeah, no prob Despen. still looking.03:14
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JoeBlowVernon_: is it possible to run the windows installation within ubuntu?03:14
Jowikameron: apt-cache search name, or apt-cache search --names-only name03:14
Vernon_JoeBlow: yes.03:15
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JoeBlowVernon_: I really hate having to manually reset grub after installing windows03:15
lowman62kameron: that is a good question...let me hunt for that one i would like to know that myself03:15
kameronty Jowi03:15
Vernon_JoeBlow: where do you live, actually?03:15
JoeBlowVernon_: germany03:15
kameronlowman62, refer to Jowi03:15
JoeBlowVernon_: for 7 months now03:15
mweqemu is dead slow for me, to the point of being unusable. even with kqemu03:15
lowman62Jowi: coolies ty03:15
Jowikameron: you can also add several keywords "apt-cache search --names-only gtk dev"03:15
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kameronokay, cool.03:15
JoeBlowVernon_: my ubuntu disk came from swedan i think, it came damn fast03:15
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Vernon_JoeBlow: i'm quite near. and i'm escaping from there :D03:15
JoeBlowVernon_: my ubuntu disk came from swedan i think, it came damn fast03:16
JoeBlowVernon_: where are u at?03:16
Vernon_sudtirol03:16
_xetWhats the name of the app that is like mac os x menu?03:16
Vernon_(italian?) alps03:16
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JoeBlowVernon_: where are u at?03:16
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Vivid-DEHi everybody03:16
Jowihi Vivid-DE03:17
Vernon_JoeBlow: sudtirol03:17
kameronDespen: libflac6 isn't in repositories. you sure it won't work with 703:17
JoeBlowVernon_: where is that?03:17
Vivid-DEit is in austria Joe!!!03:17
JoeBlowohh ok03:17
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mweJowi: do you always use long options, like --names-only instead of -n ?03:17
ves_Hi, there could somebody URGENTLY help me? :( I ctrl+c'd during a make install by accident and it has totally destroyed my pc, typing 'ls' 'cd' etc gives a persmission denied, and after reboot it wont even log me in03:17
JoeBlowi was gonna go visit nimbdin this summer03:17
quietapt-get install build-essential says can't stat package?03:17
Vernon_JoeBlow: alps, in italy. 40km to brenner, osterreich03:17
Vivid-DEVernon, du sprichst deutsch?03:18
Jowimwe: nope, but it's nice to know where the short options come from.03:18
JoeBlowvernon_, ive never been to italy, but i would like to visit it03:18
mweJowi: yeah i gues it is03:18
JoeBlowvernon_, sister in law really likes it03:18
Vernon_nein Vivid-DE . i sprache italienish and a bit of english03:18
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Jowimwe: and easier to remember when using different apps that both use -s that mean opposite things ;)03:18
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JoeBlowsprachst du duetsch?03:18
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lowman62I would love to visit germany...i heard it is cool as can be there03:19
bitkid_hi03:19
ves_Anyone? :///03:19
bitkid_can anyone help me please with an openvpn problem with ubuntu?03:19
JoeBlowvernon_, ok , so how do i install windows within ubuntu?03:19
Vernon_i was in germany for oktoberfest. very cool :D03:19
Jowimwe: and if i'm using sudo it is a much safer bet for me, since my memory sucks.03:19
Vivid-DEA question to everybody: Is it possible, to make active desktops in ubuntu?? So I can see the how much my processor is working and things like this???????03:19
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JoeBlowvernon_, I was their for new years, i drank 3 german beer, and a whole bottle of italian wine03:20
Tomcat_Vivid-DE: There's gdesklets03:20
lowman62Oktoberfest would rock...i loves my beer03:20
JoeBlowgerman beer is really great03:20
trappistVivid-DE: you want gkrellm03:20
squirrelpimpVivid-DE: and gkrellm and adesklets03:20
JoeBlowmostly Pils03:20
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squirrelpimpPils rox03:20
squirrelpimpbut Premium Pils even more03:20
Vivid-DE@squirrelpimp: is gkrellm and adesklets priceless??03:21
lowman62JoeBlow: can you get black and tans there?03:21
Jowi*slightly* offtopic, but Irish beer rule. I'm talking real beer here, not lager.03:21
Vernon_JoeBlow: qemu -hda /dev/hdb1 -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d03:21
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mwedo you gues actually find qemu usable? for me it's so slow I gave up using it even with kqemu03:21
lowman62Jowi: if you are talking about beer ..as far as I am concerned you are on topic :P03:22
JoeBlowlowman62: most of the beer is black, aged one to two years03:22
Vernon_german beer is very light, i don't like it so much. better netherland, danish and irish imho03:22
squirrelpimpVivid-DE: what do you mean by priceless???03:22
Jowimwe: just installing win98se with it now. amasingly slow. never did get kqemu to compile at all (used the wiki). i've yet to see if it is usable. have to wait until the install is done.03:22
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lowman62JoeBlow: I love beer..dark beer that most would think was nasty...I love it..black and tans rock03:23
AndyLhi all03:23
Hawk|-Vivid-DE, gkrellm is opensource03:23
Jowimwe: tried to install Zeta RC3 that didn't work at all.03:23
AndyLdoes anyone remember how to get a wireless nic configured in MS Windows Me?03:23
JoeBlowlowman62: I prefer black too, but with good ole candy, lol03:23
JoeBlowlowman62: we eat it with like gummy bears and shit03:23
Jowilowman62: Mmmm, oh yeah. stop it now or I have to go to the shop.03:23
SyrussAndyL: #windowsme03:23
Syruss:/03:23
lowman62JoeBlow: knows what you mean LOL03:23
Hawk|-AndyL, what is WindowsMe?03:23
blue-frogAndyL, try windows channel03:23
JoeBlowlowman62: Becks is a good introductory german beer03:24
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lowman62AndyL: yes I do...install winxp...:P03:24
JoeBlowlowman62: Before u go dark03:24
Syrussselect clue from people;03:24
Syruss:/03:24
bitkid_i will tell you about austrian beer, if you help me afterwards with openvpn ;)03:24
AndyLlowman62, lol03:24
docta_vAndyL: you need to install whatever utility the vendor provides for that03:24
kameronyou guys have it all wrong. canadian beer or bust.03:24
deltron#ubuntu-offtopic please03:24
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AndyLthe driver is installed, it the network config I can't remember03:24
JoeBlowbut qemu will not work with games03:24
lowman62kameron: I am CANADIAN :D03:24
docta_vAndyL: i said utility not driver03:25
JoeBlowlowman62: ever get any good BC Bud03:25
lowman62kameron: I just live in savannah03:25
ves_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=632618 :(03:25
kameronlowman63: #ubuntu-offtopic03:25
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lowman62JoeBlow: nah! I quit that stuff when I moved to the states...they do pee tests so..I had to grow up :P03:25
Vernon_JoeBlow: use cedega for games, not any VM!03:25
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lowman62sorry kameron...back on topic03:26
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imrabtiHello03:26
imrabtiMy firefox is very Slow In Ubuntu03:26
imrabtican Any one Help03:26
imrabtiPlease03:26
kameronlowman62: it's cool, just saying.. let's chat in offtopic!03:26
Vernon_imrabti: search in google "firefox turbo"03:26
lowman62kameron ;)03:26
JoeBlowvernon_, Id like to just native install, but the binary i need's server is down03:26
imrabtii've 512 Mo in RAM03:26
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imrabtiand Pentium III 850 MHZ03:27
JoeBlowvernon_, I had trouble with cvscedega03:27
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Vernon_JoeBlow: network troubles?03:27
JoeBlowvernon_, when i go to load a profile, it says authintication error03:27
imrabtiPlease can anyone Help03:27
lowman62imrabti: I have never heard of that problem...anyone in here hear of this?03:27
JoeBlowvernon_, ever hear of that?03:28
imrabtihe make slow my gnome desktop slow03:28
lowman62imrabti: when you say slow do you mean slow to start?03:28
imrabtino03:28
imrabtislow to use03:28
kameronimrabti: what kind of internet connection do you have?03:28
lowman62imrabti what version is it?03:29
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Vernon_JoeBlow: when i was in trouble i haved reinstalled it ex novo03:29
imrabtiIt load rapidly the Web Page03:29
JoeBlowVernon_, ex novo?03:29
imrabtibut when i open a lot of Tab it becam slow03:29
Vernon_JoeBlow: like "brand new installation"03:29
Sonderbladei have changed my hostname with sudo hostname foobar, how do i change it back? sudo doesn't work anymore03:29
imrabtiI've a 8 Mo of VRAM03:29
ploomPentium III 500, 384 ram03:30
imrabtino03:30
trappistSonderblade: reboot03:30
JoeBlowVernon_ , ill try it03:30
JoeBlowVernon_ , alright, im in windows setup03:30
imrabtiPentium II 850MHZ and 512 Ram and 8MO of VRAM03:30
ploommy firefox quite slow also...03:30
Sonderbladetrappist: no other way?03:30
lowman62imrabti: hrrmm don't open so many tabs?03:30
imrabtiIt is a laptop PC03:30
Vernon_imrabti: maybe it is due to many jscripts in the webpages. it's normal03:30
imrabtiToshiba Satellite 1800-70003:30
trappistSonderblade: when sudo quits working your options are pretty limited03:30
imrabtiPerphaps03:31
ploomthe 1.07 firefox...03:31
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imrabtiYes 1.0703:31
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TTilusimrabti: update03:31
imrabtiYes03:31
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TTilusimrabti: dist-upgrade  :)03:31
imrabtibut i've only firefox 1.07 not 1.503:31
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lowman62imrabti: if you update first read the wiki on updating to 1.5 version of firefox...or you will have more problems than you got now03:32
JoeBlowVernon_ , now i decided for games im just gonna run straight windows, how do i run linux in a window on windows?03:32
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markitoxshi everyone03:32
imrabtiMy CPU work 100% when i'm using firefox<03:32
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imrabtiThat is the problem03:32
trappistimrabti: have you installed any extensions?03:33
imrabtiit just like i'm running a 3 D game or something like this03:33
markitoxsi'm trying to read a windows recorded cdrom, but the file was "hideen" in windows, and i can't even see it,03:33
imrabtiNo03:33
imrabtiany extension03:33
Vernon_JoeBlow: wmware, bochs. or install cygwin, a posix layer and gnu system on windows03:33
lowman62imrabti: I am not sure what would be causing that03:33
markitoxsanyideaS?03:33
trappistmarkitoxs: use the 'unhide' option in your fstab or mount command03:33
imrabtialso in Kde i've the same problme03:33
markitoxstrappist, mount -unhide ?03:33
trappistmarkitoxs: mount -o unhide03:34
lowman62imrabti: try upgrading it but forst read the wiki on upgrading to 1.503:34
imrabtiI've the minimal requirememnt in my system03:34
Vernon_JoeBlow: you'll use, in example, ifconfig to change your windowsxp-box ip ;)03:34
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Jowiimrabti: sounds nasty. how about trying another browser to see if there's any difference?03:34
imrabtiYes I'me using Galeon03:34
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JoeBlowVernon_ , so whats the easiest way to do it where I can access my current ubuntu system?03:34
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imrabtiil work perfectly fast03:34
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ves_Sorry to repeat again, but could somebody URGENTLY help me? :( I ctrl+c'd during a make install by accident and it has totally destroyed my pc, typing 'ls' 'cd' etc gives a persmission denied, and after reboot it wont even log me in.03:34
ves_Will I need a reinstall or can it be saved?03:34
Vernon_JoeBlow: wmware, i suppose03:34
markitoxstrappist, how, cool, thx a lot03:35
Jowives_: what did you install?03:35
blue-frogves_, what were u installing?03:35
Despenkameron: It might work with libflac7.. But How od I reconfigure so it tries to use libfalc7 instead of libflac6?03:35
trappistves_: reboot, select rescue mode at the grub prompt.  it'll take you directly to a root shell, no login.03:35
JoeBlowVernon_, alright03:35
ves_It was errr, banshee03:35
kamerondespen:hmm. i'll look into that more for you. what's the program name called again? brb in a minute.03:35
ves_k03:35
ves_I'm on a live cd now, but I'll reboot03:35
Despenkameron: ScummVM 0.8003:36
ves_trappist: I think I've set my timeout so low I'm not getting a prompt03:36
ves_from grub, it just boots03:37
lowman62ves_: I did that once..was phun to say the least..rescue mode and chmod permissions03:37
ves_lowman62: oh thank god :)03:37
ves_everything get resolved?03:37
lowman62ves_: I am still using it now03:37
ves_that's good news03:37
ves_:)03:37
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lowman62ves_: was brain salad surgery to fix it though :P03:38
ves_eugh :/03:38
ves_I can't even get into rescue mode, can I boot of a disk or something?03:38
lowman62brb phone03:38
blue-froginstall disk type rescue03:38
ves_k03:38
kentis there any shortcut for minimizing a window in Gnome?  I know alt+f10 for maximizing it - but it would be nice with one to minimize it to the panel aswell.03:39
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blue-frogalt F903:39
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kentblue-frog, thanks03:40
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JoeBlowVernon_, do i install my windows drivers into my qemu windows?03:40
blue-frogand alt F5 back to the state it was03:40
NotFhey, how do you burn a cd in ubuntu?03:40
JoeBlowNotF: get GnomeBaker from synaptic03:41
DanglyBitsjust downloaded dapper ubuntu flight2 and cannot get the network connection to work right...anyone know what the deal is with that?03:41
NotFok, thanks03:41
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Vernon_JoeBlow: no. you must use the virtual-emulated-hardware of qemu03:41
JowiNotF: there are several ways. cdrecord (terminal) graveman is nice in X03:41
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Vernon_a vga cirrus logic 4mb03:41
ves_ok I've hit the rescue prompt and most of my stuff still seems to be there03:42
ves_lowman62: any chance you remember what you chmod'd? :)03:42
nics__DanglyBits: make sure that it is enabled, everytime I install dapper it leaves the connection disabled on reboot03:42
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Micksaokay, so03:42
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JoeBlowVernon_, what about when i boot straight to windows?03:42
Micksaanyone care to help me get cups set up to print to a SMB printer?03:42
NotFwhat kind of package do I need to use in ubuntu?03:42
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Vernon_JoeBlow: a new hardware search03:43
DanglyBitsnics__:how do i ensure its enabled?03:43
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jenda!nvidia03:43
ubotunvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:43
JoeBlowVernon_, so when i use it with qemu just leave it alone, but when i boot straight install my drivers?03:43
Jowi!info graveman03:43
ubotugraveman: (graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3.12-4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 689 kB, Installed size: 2428 kB03:43
nics__DanglyBits: System->Administration->Networking03:43
ves_my systems uptime was like 2 months, too :/03:43
podzHi, in xchat when I right click to 'Open in web browser' it's opening a terminal. Can someone tell me how to make it do what it says please ?03:44
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Vernon_JoeBlow: drivers for your native hardware are installed. it will check and use it03:44
Jowipodz: try rightclick -> mozilla firefox -> your coice03:45
DanglyBitswhere can i find the latest Dapper 64bit install iso?03:45
kameronDespen: i just thought of a new idea. you can make a symbolic link to libflac7 from libflac603:45
Vernon_JoeBlow: in other words, no need of reinstall drivers03:45
JoeBlowVernon_, windows requires special drivers for my sound card tho03:45
Jowipodz: for me, both options work fine03:45
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ves_everyones abandoned me :/03:46
kamerondespen: install libflac7, then 'locate libflac' and find out where it is. and in the same directory, do this: 'ln -s libflac6 libflac7'03:46
Vernon_JoeBlow: forget to use multimedia stuff on qemu-ed windows03:46
podzJowi, cheers that right-click, then select works :)03:46
JoeBlowVernon_, argh, ok03:46
kameronves_ never, what do youi need?03:46
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ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth03:47
kameronNotF: please stop03:47
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Vernon_JoeBlow: maybe exist a sound wrapper but honestly i don't know about it03:47
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ves_I destroyed my install by ctrl+c'ing during a make install, I've hit rescue prompt but not sure what to do next03:47
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ves_Jowi: how'd you mean try and make install again fully?03:48
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mustard5thanks fabbione03:48
kameronNotF: please STOP03:48
Blue-Omegafabbione, thanks03:48
Jowives_: what exactly did (almost) you install?03:48
fabbioneno problem03:48
Vernon_grazie fabbione03:48
fabbione* #ubuntu *!*n=notf@ip-81-11-211-55.dsl.scarlet.be :Channel ban list is full03:48
fabbionewow03:48
ves_Jowi: it was banshee03:48
Blue-Omega:o03:48
JoeBlowouch does that kinda stuff happen alot03:48
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kameronDespen: i don't know if you got what i said, there was a bit of a flood.. scroll up03:48
mustard5JoeBlow, often enough :)03:48
Jowives_: the 3dfx drivers?03:48
ves_Jowi: no, the recently new mono music app03:49
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Jowives_: ah, ok.03:49
lowman62ves_: you still here03:49
ves_lowman62: yeah03:50
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Jowives_: mystery why a non-system app should mess it up. no idea how to correct that.03:50
pureonehi03:50
ves_hmm :/03:50
lowman62ves_: sorry my wife called I had to answer the phone...now...what happened exactly?03:50
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pureonedoes ubuntu come with bc43xx ?03:50
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kameronpureone: the arbitrary precision calculator language?03:51
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ves_lowman62: I was make installing banshee, ctrl+c'd by accident (wrong screen window) and then the whole system died with premission errors, ls, cp etc. I rebooted didn't start and couldn't login since my home directory gave an access denied. Root didn't login either with a password error.03:51
pureoneno03:51
pureonei ment bcm43xx03:52
lowman62ves_: can you get to the login scree?03:52
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pureonethe wireless drivers for broadcom cards03:52
kameronpureone: not sure03:52
lowman62*screen03:52
trappistpureone: bcm440003:52
pureoneno others?03:52
ves_lowman62: yeah I could, I'm in rescue mode just now (booting off the install cd) and can see all my files03:52
JoeBlowVernon_, ok did the cd part, nows the part where i dont use the cd, what command do i use to boot qemu now?03:52
trappistpureone: bcm4400 as a separate module - not sure what all's in the kernel03:52
pureoneok03:53
lowman62ves_: Ctrl+Alt+F1 from login screen...login at prompt username and password let me know when you are in there03:53
pureonei was under the impression that the bcm43xx module was included03:53
podzpureone, it doesn't support my FD7010 card03:53
Vernon_JoeBlow: change the boot parameter. set it to "-boot c"03:53
lowman62ves_: oh you are in rescue mode?03:53
ves_yeah03:53
JoeBlowVernon_, k03:53
lowman62ves_: cd /home03:53
ves_I tried logging in but got a permission denied error from my home dir03:53
ves_lowman62: yeah03:53
JoeBlowVernon_, qemu -hda /dev/hdb1  -boot c ??03:54
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lowman62ls and let me know your profile name03:54
ves_'gavin'03:54
trappistpureone: there's a builtin kernel module, b44, that's probably what you need03:54
Vernon_JoeBlow: add -cdrom /dev/cdrom03:54
pureonei got a bcm4306 card so i donno if that will work03:54
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pureonewell i got 3 of them cards...03:54
Vernon_JoeBlow: you don'tt boot from cd, but may it be usefull to have it available03:54
imrabtiOk03:54
lowman62okay do this.. sudo chmod 755 -R /home/gavin03:54
imrabtii've a probleme03:55
pureonebut ill test the cd and see what happens03:55
ves_lowman62: k03:55
imrabtiMy graphics carte is not correctly configured03:55
JoeBlowVernon_, it keeps flashing03:55
imrabtiIt is connected to PCI bus in xorg.conf03:55
Vernon_JoeBlow: cool :S03:55
JoeBlowVernon_, lol, and not going anywhere03:55
ves_lowman62: it's done, is there a lot of that to go?03:55
lowman62ves_: then do this.. sudo chown gavin:gavin -R /home/gavin03:55
imrabtibut in technical information about my laptop it is connected to a AGP Bus03:56
ves_lowman62: k03:56
Vernon_JoeBlow: have it wrote "windowsxp blah blah?"03:56
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JoeBlowVernon_, I cant read anythign on it, it keeps flashing and restarting itself03:56
imrabtiAnd it suport OpenGL but OpenGl Application are so slow in my computer03:56
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lowman62ves_: try booting up in normal mode and try login in03:56
ves_lowman62: oh wait sorry03:56
imrabtiPlease03:56
ves_it says cannot open sudoers persmission denied03:56
imrabtiI want help03:56
ves_for 'chmod'03:56
pureoneves_ do it as root then..03:57
BirdyKillerhi... I'm having issues installing the nivida drivers on 2.6.12 for AMD64...  I've been following the directions from the wiki but I'm having trouble getting through the installer's issues with my source03:57
ves_I am as root03:57
lowman62okay you are no longer in your sudoers list hold on..I know there is a fix for that03:57
ves_drop the 'sudo'?03:57
imrabtiplease help03:57
JoeBlowVernon_, should i just do it manually and then come back ?03:57
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BirdyKilleri downloaded the source and untarred it but now it's saying "/include/linux/version.h" does not exist... most likely reason is that kernel source has not been configured03:57
lowman62ves_: no that happened to me..I just forget but I know where the answer is one second03:57
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Vernon_JoeBlow: in other words?03:58
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JoeBlowVernon_, leave linux land, and let windows do its thing straight, and then come back to linux to run it qemu03:58
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Vernon_JoeBlow: wait03:58
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kameronanyone know where xmms-skins gets installed to? i thought it should be at /home/user/.xmms/Skins but it's not there.03:59
JoeBlowVernon_, k03:59
Vernon_JoeBlow: you must configure bootloader, i suppose03:59
JowiBirdyKiller: just a though, have you installed the kernel source?03:59
stark-johanwhat kind of themes can I download and use with ubuntu/gnome?03:59
ves_lowman62: oh, 'chown' works without the sudo03:59
poningruwhat?03:59
Jowistark-johan: art.gnome.org04:00
lowman62ves_ do this .. type nano /etc/sudoers ..ass username to the list under the %admin entry in this format gavin ALL=(ALL)ALL04:00
jendaSeveas: There was this site that generated sources.list files... do you know where to find it?04:00
lowman62ass = as LOL04:00
pureonejenda, apt-setup04:00
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ves_lowman62: k04:00
lowman62ves_: then reboot and login you are good to go04:01
jendapureone: a website... is that a package?04:01
pureoneits a program that configures /etc/apt/sources.list04:01
JoeBlowVernon_, so how do i do that?04:01
BirdyKillerJowi, I think so... I did apt-get install linux-kernel-source-2.6.12 I believe it was04:01
lowman62ves_ unless something else got messed up then we will have to fix that04:01
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BirdyKillerthat downloaded it to /usr/src as a .tar.bz2, then I untarred it....04:01
Seveas!tell jenda about easysource04:01
ves_lowman62: k bear with me :)04:02
lowman62ves_: take your time04:02
JowiBirdyKiller: check if /usr/src/linux is pointint to your untarred linux source folder.04:02
JoeBlowVernon_, I appreciate all the help04:02
Vernon_JoeBlow: grub o lilo?04:02
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JoeBlowVernon_, rh?04:02
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JoeBlowVernon_, eh?04:03
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luki922siema04:03
Vernon_JoeBlow: your bootloader?04:03
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Sturgeonany ideas what the following error means:04:03
JoeBlowVernon_, some version of grub, the normal for ubuntu 5.1004:03
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JoeBlowVernon_, if i type grub o lilo it brings me into grub04:04
jendaWhat is the public opinion of Seveas' Repositories?04:04
Vernon_JoeBlow: 3 lines. better in query04:04
jenda*on04:04
alenhi, my 56k modem seems to disconect often, and when it does it wont let me econnect, and i have to restart my computer04:04
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Seveasjenda, use at own risk, no guarantee, they work for most04:04
JoeBlowVernon_, eh?04:04
Seveassame as for any 3rd party repo04:04
JoeBlowVernon_, pm u mean?04:04
jendaSeveas: I know, that's why I ask for the reputation :)04:05
JowiSeveas: aren't you partly biased? ;-)04:05
SeveasJowi, quite04:05
ves_lowman62: I can seem to change sudoers it wont let me change it cos its read only04:05
Jowihaha04:05
sproingiewhat's in Seveas's repos?04:05
SeveasI'd be the first to recommend my repo over any other with the same things in it04:05
ves_but I'm managed to get this directory chown'd and chmo'd just by dropping the 'sudo'04:05
Sturgeonany idea what this is?: ** (gnome-cups-icon:31474): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 103004:05
Seveassince I know my packages :)04:05
pureoneves_, make sure you use visudo04:05
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ves_'visudo'?04:05
Jowijenda: they are fine. nothing in there have broken anything for me04:05
SturgeonI get tons of that in my .xsession-errors file04:05
lowman62ves_: my bad do exactly what i said but use sudo in front of it all04:05
jendaOK, sounds good enough04:05
pureoneves_ you do not need sudo if you are root!04:05
jendathanks04:05
pureoneman visudo04:05
lowman62hey ves_ are yo unot root?04:06
SeveasJowi, but using 3rd party repos is always 'not recommended'04:06
sproingieSturgeon: what's in these repos?  got a sources.list url?04:06
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY04:06
ves_lowman62: I'm on the rescue disk so I think I'm root already?04:06
JoeBlowVernon_, so what should I do?04:06
pureoneC-O-L-T, OK04:06
ves_but using 'sudo' doesnt work04:06
sproingieC-O-L-T: VERY NICE NOW GO AWAY04:06
jendaAnd what about Cipherfunk and PLF?04:06
ves_everything else does04:06
Sturgeonsproingie: what repos?04:06
lowman62then the sudoers should have write access to you then04:06
sproingieSturgeon: sorry, mistyped.  meant to send that to seveas04:06
Vernon_JoeBlow: i've queried you. look for the new opened tab04:06
JowiSeveas: I'm not really counting your repos as third party. 2.5 maybe. :)04:07
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lowman62ves_ talk to me in the pm04:07
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Seveas!tell sproingie about seveas04:07
JoeBlowVernon_, I think pm doesnt work right for me04:07
_Gray_anyone using xdesktopwaves?04:07
Jowiooops, forgot the oven!04:07
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Despenkameron: Ok, I'll try that04:07
squirrelpimpJowi: house on fire?04:07
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alencan anyone help me with a problem with my 56k modem?, thank u04:08
Seveas!tell alen about anyone04:08
sproingieooh, up to date java packages?  that's always nice04:08
poningrualen: whats wrong?04:08
Vernon_JoeBlow: join #vernon04:08
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jenda_Gray_: I tried them out.04:08
Jowisquirrelpimp: luckily only steam. i remembered on time.04:09
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_Gray_jenda: it makes the desktop look so pretty lol04:09
alenmy modem seems to disconect very often and then wont reconect unless i restart my pc04:09
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jenda_Gray_: It does look nice, but I wouldn't use it full time. Waste of resources.04:10
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BirdyKillerAGH!04:11
_Gray_jenda: I only enable it when I'm doing light work like internet/word processing etc04:11
BirdyKillerunable to find the nvidia kernel module :(04:11
Vernon_BirdyKiller: depmod?04:11
BirdyKiller!depmod04:11
ubotuBirdyKiller: I haven't a clue04:11
BirdyKiller?04:11
_Gray_BirdyKiller: are you installing the nvidia drivers from their website?04:12
BirdyKillertrying to04:12
flogistonLinux is like a wigwam. No windows, no Gates and an apache inside.04:12
BirdyKillerI can't startx with the nvidia-glx drivers...04:12
_Gray_BirdyKiller: have you followed the how-to in ubuntu forums?04:12
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BirdyKillerthat's what I'm trying to do :(04:13
Despenkameron: Thanks, got it to work!!04:13
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_Gray_BirdyKiller: you cant startx?04:13
Loevborg_Gray_, hey desktopwaves looks funny04:13
Micksaman, it sure would be nice if smb just worked04:13
Loevborg_Gray_, unfortunately I never see my desktop anyway04:13
_Gray_Loevborg: go to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112333 to configure it more04:13
Micksahow do I get smbclient (or whatever) to search for a browser rather than DNS?04:14
_Gray_Loevborg: i spent like half an hour just playing around with it lol04:14
Micksacos it must be using DNS04:14
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BirdyKiller_Gray_ yeah it crashes on me...  the ubuntu logo in the center of the screen goes all garbly and I can't even ctrl+Alt+backspace04:14
kameronDespen: :D good!! i wasn't sure if that was going to work, but worth a shot. symbolic links are awesome.04:14
ves_pureone: any idea what unable to open term: bterm means?04:14
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flogistonterm= terminal?04:15
bolrodterminate!04:16
bolrod?04:16
ves_trying to edit /etc/sudoers with visudo/vim/nano gives this unable to open bterm error :/04:16
kameron_Gray_: omg that shit pwns so hard04:16
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BirdyKillerI've about lost hope on this system ever running ubuntu again04:16
BirdyKilleractually it never ran ubuntu, new computer, but it did in my dreams04:17
Jowibterm is a framebuffer terminal emulator04:17
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Syrussubuntu isn't hard to get working04:18
toydihi, any solution to input chinese characters in firefox1.5 (scim seems have problems)04:18
BirdyKillernobody seems to be able to help me to get it working on a geforce 7800/amd64 system04:18
Despenkameron: Yes, It seems to work.. it started at least04:18
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kameronDespen: sounds like a good start at least :P\04:19
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gnomefreak:) good morning04:21
radexnice # :)04:21
JoeBlowvernon_ , hey04:21
Micksaokay, I have gotten this far:04:22
Micksamslade@boo:~$ man -t rm|smbclient '\\mickpc\postscript' guest -U guest -c 'print -'04:22
MicksaDomain=[MICKPC]  OS=[Windows 5.1]  Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager] 04:22
MicksaERRDOS - ERRbadaccess (Invalid open mode.) opening remote file stdin-1456404:22
Micksawhat does that mean?04:22
Micksa"Invalid open mode" is what cups gives me too04:22
Micksahang on....04:23
JoeBlowvernon_ , u their bro?04:23
Jowives_: can you re-install ncurses-term?04:23
ves_Jowi: just with apt?04:23
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Micksaah, windows related problem04:24
Jowives_: yeah. think bterm and it are connected04:24
Micksaof COURSE "invalid open mode" means "this account has insufficient access rights"04:24
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kremontewhat's the name of the linux limewire port? =x04:26
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BirdyKilleranybody familiar with building kernel module for nvidia?  I know I'm close and I have the logfile...04:28
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madgik85kremonte, you can use gtk-gnutella to connected to Limewire of you use Gnome environment04:29
BirdyKillerat the end of the log it's giving a /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: no such file or directory   then make[3] : **** [__modpost]  Error 127, make[2] : ***[modules]  Error 2, NVIDIA: left KBUILD, nvidia.ko failed to build!04:29
kremontemadgik85: thanks =)04:30
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Jowives_: did it work?04:31
avalostanyone have any problems with amarok?04:31
avalosteverytime I open amarok it crashes04:32
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fatcowis anyone here using ddclient?04:32
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drvijuhow to increase time in grub loader  choice betn  two  os04:33
fatcowHow do I find out _Interfce used for dynamic DNS server_?04:33
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merlywhy is partition of HD unsuccessful? I have about 5 gigs free (out of 20), did defrag and cleanup. what else can i do?04:34
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Jowidrviju: in /boot/grub/menu.lst look for "timeout"04:34
gnomefreakdrviju, open /boo/grub/menu.lst and edit the line that has something like time 5 change it to what you want04:34
gnomefreakout*04:34
Jowimerly: not having enough info. are you trying to add a partition?04:35
merlyJowi - i was installing ubuntu on an older pc04:35
BirdyKillerHA!!!!!04:35
BirdyKillerI GOT IT!04:35
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merlyJowi - with previous windows install04:35
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merlyJowi - trying to shrink the windows part.04:35
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Jowimerly: so the shrinking fail or something else?04:36
DDTahi04:36
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DDTajust a question04:36
SL0MOHow do I change screen resolution via commandline?04:36
merlyjowi  - the shrinking. it just tries but it doesn't work.04:36
BirdyKillerYEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!04:36
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gnomefreakDDTa, go ahead ask if someone knows they will help you04:36
BlueDevildoes anyone know if the Logitech QuickCam Chat is supported on Ubuntu out of the box?04:36
SeveasBirdyKiller, you shot the bird?04:36
Noriegahey, does anyone know how to edit specific buttons on your keyboard layout, if I want altgr+c to be something else than 04:36
BirdyKillerbeen working on this for like 20 hours :) and I'm finally up into the gui... with errors.04:36
BirdyKillerfailed to initialize HAL :-/04:37
Jowimerly: oh, don't know. always worked for me. with gparted?04:37
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gnomefreakgui with errors is getting it?04:37
Jowignomefreak: he compiled nvidia drivers from source on an amd64 machine i think...04:37
DDTagnomefreak: www.ethicalsoftware.org ... there is a license... I don't understand...04:37
jenda!nvidia04:37
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:37
gnomefreakohhhhhh04:37
gnomefreakDDTa, hold on im bringing it up04:38
merlyJowi - i'm just usuing the ubuntu installer. i don't  knwo if its gparted or ntfsresize or what04:38
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BirdyKillerthanks for the assistance04:38
gnomefreakok DDTa what does it say04:38
Jowimerly: oh ok. a fresh install.04:39
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Jowimerly: so you write changes to disk and nothing changes?04:39
gnomefreakim looking at the liecense what do you not understand about it?04:39
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merlyJowi that is correct04:40
BirdyKiller!grub04:40
uboturumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting04:40
BirdyKillerfirst link is broken...04:40
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gnomefreakbrb04:41
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jendaI can't get my NVidia to work with the drivers in the repositories. What do I have to do in order to proporly remove them before I install it with the NVidia installer?04:42
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Nikusanhi all, smeg won't let me delete an entry in my gnome menu. can anyone tell me what file(s) I need to edit manually to remove it?04:42
DDTagnomefreak: see the site04:43
Jowimerly: are you manually choose the partition and type in a new lower value, or are you chosing the "resize and use freed space..."?04:43
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cisoxHello, I am trying to create a debian package. I need some advice. All I want to do is take some files, a website or two, things along those lines, and install them on the new system. I don't need to make any files or anything along those lines. What would be the best way to build a package for this?04:44
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StyXmanhi all04:44
StyXmanI'm compilin kernel 2.6.15 from dapper (in a breesy)04:45
StyXmanbut I can'tfor the life of me find the support for the intel 82801 IDE chipset04:45
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laleHi i have a problem with tulip driver. After 1-2 minutes my network connection gets down. I have to re-plug ethernet cable for reconnect04:46
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rszthi everyone, i'd have a question about the ssh server in hoary hedgehog: it fails to start and says: could not load host key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key04:46
mc|ambhi, i need help to resize a partiton with gparted.. it all works great at the begining but when i give it apply everything looks like it went just fine but at the end nothing happens04:46
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striderStyXman: I think i know where. just give me a minute04:47
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poningrumc|amb: the partition you are working with has to be umounted04:47
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drviju_jowi got thisbash: cd: /menu.lst: No such file or direc tory04:47
drviju_drviju@drviju:/boot/grub$ edit menu.lst04:47
drviju_Warning: unknown mime-type for "menu.lst" -- using "application/*"04:47
drviju_Error: no write permission for file "menu. lst"04:47
Seveasrszt, how did you install the ssh server?04:47
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Seveasdrviju, don't paste in here04:47
pl_icehi04:48
Goshawkcisox: man debuild04:48
poningruGoshawk: he left04:48
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mc|ambponingru, it is unmounted. i'm working with gparted from the liveCD04:48
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rsztSeveas: apt-get install ssh04:48
drviju_seveas plz tell me hz to increase time in grub loader04:48
BirdyKillerand a reboot gives xserver errors...04:48
Goshawkponingru, thanks04:48
Goshawki didn't note04:49
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Jowidrviju: "sudo nano menu.lst" or "gksudo gedit menu.lst"04:49
Seveasdrviju, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst (as normal user)04:49
Seveasand icrease the timeout04:49
Seveasrszt, hmm04:49
merlyJowi - i have tried both options, manually choose and resize, as well as the auto "resize and use freed space"04:49
pl_icei need a hand with loggig in, under kubuntu, it was set so that it went to local mail, ubuntu, not sure how to check logs04:49
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Seveastry apt-get remove --purge openssh-server and then again apt-get install ssh04:49
StyXmanstrider: k, waiting...04:50
Jowimerly: k, personally i would reboot and try again...04:50
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merlyJowi which is better? manual or the resize and use freed?04:50
symtabis there a way i can get gnome-2.13.x with ubuntu?04:50
symtabexcept compiling04:50
Seveassymtab, by using dapper04:50
symtab?04:50
Jowimerly: i never used the automatic one04:50
symtabdapper?04:50
rsztSeveas: thx, i'll try that04:50
symtabsorry, i'm new to ubuntu04:50
symtabwhere can i read more about dapper?04:51
striderStyXman: yes something to do with ICH intel pII or something. i'll just do a menuconfig and check ;)04:51
Seveassymtab, then don't use dapper or gnome 2.1304:51
Seveasboth are development releases and unstable04:51
StyXmanstrider: ok, still here04:51
symtabSeveas, just tell me where to read about it :)04:51
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poningrumc|amb: hmm04:52
jenda!tell symtab about dapper04:52
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symtabthanks04:52
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laleHi i have a problem with tulip driver. After 1-2 minutes my network connection gets down. I have to re-plug ethernet cable for reconnect04:52
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Vernon_joe_alf: if u r joeblow, i'll be back in 40 mins04:53
drviju_drviju@drviju:/$ gksudo gedit/boot/grub/me nu.lst04:53
drviju_(gksudo:7965): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib04:53
drviju_(gksudo:7965): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers04:53
drviju_sudo: gedit/boot/grub/menu.lst: command no t found04:53
drviju_drviju@drviju:/$ gksudo gedit menu.lst04:53
drviju_(gksudo:7978): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib04:53
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drviju_(gksudo:7978): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers04:53
drviju_(gedit:7980): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not s upported by Xlib04:53
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Goshawkis there a tool for networks that let you know if there is a dhcp client listen on a network or if ips are static and what's their addresses?04:53
drviju_(gedit:7980): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set l ocale modifiers04:53
Vernon_ciao Goshawk :)04:53
drviju_(gedit:7980): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While co nnecting to session manager:04:53
drviju_Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are  supported and host-based authentication f ailed.04:53
pl_ice!log04:53
ubotupl_ice: I give up, what is it?04:53
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GoshawkVernon_, ciao :D04:53
striderStyXman: under Device drivers04:54
kabin my gnome applet clock, the week day start day is Monday, but I want to be Sunday, How can I change this?04:54
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striderStyXman: ATA/ATAPi04:54
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striderStyXman: tell me when you get there04:54
vkis there any way to display a list of running processes in ubuntu, like windows ctrl+alt+esc04:54
Goshawkvk: system monitor04:55
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mwevk: or ps aux from a console04:55
Goshawkvk, there is a gnome applet04:55
Goshawkthat is very nice to see :D04:55
poningruvk: yeah go to applications-> system tools-> system monitor04:55
symtabok...i want to test it....where can i download dapper?04:56
vkgoshawk, where do i find system monitor?04:56
StyXmanstrider: the only intel thing is the intel PIIXn04:56
Goshawkvk, follow poningru directives04:56
striderStyXman: yes that's the one04:56
StyXmanmaybe activating experimental/broken ones...04:56
vktnx04:56
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StyXmanstrider: that one, sure?04:56
striderStyXman: what's your h/w ?04:56
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pl_icemy pc shuts down for a no reason, which logs can i check to find something out? ...04:57
StyXmanlspci says: 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100 IDE Controller (rev 02)04:57
Goshawkso.. is there a tool to discover a network? a tool can understand if there is a dhcp server of the ips are statics04:57
mustard5pl_ice, try Xorg.log04:57
mustard5pl_ice, sounds like possible RAM problem04:57
BirdyKillerwhat's the ubuntu version of mkinitrd?04:58
StyXmanstrider: lspci says: 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100 IDE Controller (rev 02)04:58
pl_icemustard5 under ubuntu 5.04 it was cool; no it behaves like i did shutdown04:58
StyXman(sorry the dupe)04:58
striderStyXman: yes, IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 03)04:58
mustard5pl_ice, Xorg.0.log is in /var/log/04:58
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StyXmanstrider: not here04:58
striderStyXman: that'smine04:58
striderwait04:58
mustard5pl_ice, yeah..that symptom reminds me of a problem I had with faulty RAM stick04:59
StyXmanstrider: ah, ok04:59
mustard5pl_ice, it was showing a FATAL X error in the Xorg.-.log04:59
StyXmanthat driver works, you say...04:59
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striderStyXman: I'm actually quite sure. ICH4 comes from there04:59
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StyXmanstrider: k05:00
striderStyXman: you can try.05:00
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mustard5pl_ice, you can test your RAM with the memtest option in your grub menu at bootup, if you want to eliminate that as the problem05:00
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striderStyXman: did you compile already or you are going to?05:00
pl_icemustard5 no Xorg errors etc :/05:00
mustard5pl_ice, hmm k05:00
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pl_iceyeh, i need to dust the box ;) could be it ...05:01
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mustard5pl_ice, try the Applications>>System>>Monitor logs choice in the menus05:01
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mustard5pl_ice, or whatever they are called :)05:01
pl_ice:)05:01
yarkoHi All! I am trying to put ubuntu 5.10 on my chiefs Powerbook but apparently I need to have patched kernel to detect CDROM  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1857905:02
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yarkocould anyone point me to some description on how to rebuild the image or to say installation kernel since there is howto rebuild the image  http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuRemastering05:02
pl_icemustard5 i forgot to tell, it after the box fires up again, it shows stack of mem addresses,looks like it belongs to hd, which logs that would be? ..05:02
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mustard5pl_ice, not sure05:03
mustard5pl_ice, search around in /var/log/ directory and see what you can find maybe?05:03
pureoneer who ever sent me a message i missed it..05:03
StyXmanstrider: config'ing now05:03
pl_icewhats hpiod? heaps of errors on it ...05:04
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striderStyXman: make-kpkg makes it pretty easy.05:04
StyXmanstrider: well, config'ing is still done by hand, I guess05:05
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mustard5pl_ice, I wouldnt have a clue what it is05:05
Pygifreaky: ping ping05:05
striderStyXman:heh ofcourse05:05
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premhi all05:05
striderStyXman:leave a message if it works fine ;)05:06
mustard5pl_ice, its sounds like something that reminds me of my Hewlett Packard printer setup :)05:06
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mustard5pl_ice, something to do with hplip (whatever that is)05:06
StyXmanstrider: ooook05:06
pl_icemustard5 yeh, might sit down one day and clean 'couple' of processes ... the logs are clean, strange it didn't pick up that error, no worries, off to bed :) thnx05:07
mustard5pl_ice, np05:07
premjust instlled mplayer, trying to play .mov but getting error "Cannot find codec for audio format 0x706C6351" but my /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf has entry ----- format 0x706C6351 ; "QCLP"05:08
Pygi!codecs05:08
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories05:08
Pygi!avi05:08
ubotuavi is, like, totally, Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:08
pl_iceg/night :)05:08
mustard5pl_ice, night05:08
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premcodecs are downloaded and installed to /usr/local/lib/codecs is this location correct if not how to find out where it looks for codecs......05:09
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black-whIspHow do i make a short cut to a folder...???????05:09
BirdyKiller!mkinitrd05:10
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, BirdyKiller05:10
BirdyKiller!initrd-tools05:10
ubotuBirdyKiller: What?05:10
BirdyKiller:(05:10
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salvo1hi people05:10
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kameronubotu is an asshole man. don't like cut of his jip one bit.05:11
ubotukameron: Are you on ritalin?05:11
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kameron...05:11
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prem!easysource05:11
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:11
Ngkameron: (it's jib, not jip ;)05:11
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Acidic32im in a debate, i want to offer a shell service, will Ubuntu be secure enuff for this?05:12
tkupHow arguments do you give apt-get to check for software updates? there's a sudo and xpdf update that just came out. I tried apt-get upgrade and apt-get update, but none of them updated those two packages05:12
mustard5black-whIsp, something like ln -s target linkname  ... read man ln for a better description05:12
mustard5black-whIsp, you need to make a 'soft link'05:13
mustard5black-whIsp, with the -s option05:13
black-whIspokay.. thanks.:)05:13
premthere are no Dapper related on http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:13
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kameroneh, i guess so Ng05:14
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snowblinktkup, sudo apt-get update first05:14
PygiAcidic: jailed shell?05:14
Acidic32yea05:14
mustard5black-whIsp, reading the manual it would be something like    ln -s target directory ?05:15
PygiAcidic: well, if you do it right, then it is secure :)05:15
mustard5black-whIsp, thats the way I'm reading it anyway :)05:15
Acidic32im using FreeBSD atm, will Ubuntu be a good change from this?05:15
Acidic32i want to go Linux05:15
PygiAcidic: huh, FreeBSD is a good system tho :/05:15
Acidic32that came out wrong05:15
PygiAcidic: what seems to be wrong with FreeBSD?05:15
Acidic32the other box be Ubuntu05:16
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Acidic32so i have two servers05:16
Acidic321 bsd and 1 linux05:16
kameronSeveas, how about win32codecs for amd64?05:16
Seveaskameron, -ENOSUCHTHING05:16
PygiAcidic: ah, well, I would suggest something else, but as we are here, Ubuntu server will do it's task well, as long as you know how to configure it :)05:16
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Acidic32ok05:16
kameronno such thing seveas?05:16
JoeBlowhey guys, im on windows right now, how can i run my current ubuntu system through a window?05:17
kameronJoeBlow: hah!05:17
JoeBlowkameron, I already feel dirty05:17
JoeBlowkameron, this is just for gamin tho05:17
kameronJoeBlow: you want to run ubuntu from a seperate partition, on the same drive?05:17
JoeBlowkameron, yea05:18
kameronor, on the same computer i mean Joeblow05:18
JoeBlowkameron, yea05:18
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kameronJoeBlow: wow, i have no idea. it's likely not possible, but google.. maybe there's some kind of 3rd party app to help you with that.05:18
JoeBlowkameron, but not like a virtual machine, my real linux partition05:18
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premJoeBlow, consider VMWare, parallels workstation of a free qemu05:18
kameronJoeBlow: oh, not a chance of that happening.05:18
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Pygiqemu is better :)05:18
salvo1just a question, how to disable off-key of my notebook with ubuntu?? I don't want that when i push it, my notebook turn off05:18
salvo1*turns05:18
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ubuntu_Hey all :P05:18
kameronJoeBlow: unless you just want to access the files.. you won't be able to actually run anything05:19
ahsmhi everyone05:19
ubuntu_yea I know I should change my nick :P05:19
kameronJoeBlow: unless you do it virtually05:19
JoeBlowprem, well, doesnt that just run a fake ubuntu, no file saving or access to my stuff that i already have in my current ubuntu05:19
ahsmi have some problems :(05:19
JoeBlowim not doing it virtualls fuck that05:19
lee_hey guys, im a debian user and considering moving to ubuntu.....is ubuntu yet stable? as when i tried it last year it was not stable as a desktop OS05:19
lee_?05:19
ubuntu_yes ubuntu is nice :)05:19
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Pygilee: it is stable, as long as you don't use dapper :P05:19
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Nglee_: I've been using linux as a desktop since 1997 and I believe it's been stable for most of that time ;)05:19
yggdrasilcan somone help me with my mount -t smbfs going to a windows box ?05:19
kameronJoeBlow: you can access your partition, and read files, etc.. but you WON'T be able to run programs, etc, unless you do it virtuallyl05:19
salvo1ubuntu is stabler and simpler than debian05:19
ahsmhow do i edit my mouse settings05:20
ubuntu_I wanted to use Mandrake05:20
ahsmso i can change the protocol and all that stuff?05:20
premJoeBlow, no you can actually configure VMware to use your physical harddisk05:20
Pygiubuntu: there is no Mandrake :D05:20
ubuntu_but opted for this05:20
tkupsnowblink, ah thanks!05:20
kameronsalvol: no WAY is ubuntu more stable than debian05:20
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lee_Ng, linux as a whole might be stable but im talking ubuntu05:20
alexissofthi05:20
ubuntu_ohhh05:20
ubuntu_yea not anymore :P05:20
ubuntu_hahah05:20
ubuntu_Mandriva :P05:20
kameronubuntu_ i used mandrake for years before switching to ubuntu.05:20
Pygihehe :)05:20
ubuntu_hahaha05:20
yggdrasilcan somone help me with my mount -t smbfs going to a windows box ? i got it mounted but its only read only....05:20
Pygi!patience05:20
Nglee_: well I've been using that since before warty was released and I'm very happy with its stability :)05:20
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.05:20
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ubuntu_which you like best?05:20
JoeBlowkameron: man that sucks05:21
Pygiubuntu: who? me?05:21
BirdyKillerit's stable as long as you don't use nvidia drivers on an amd64 system :)05:21
lee_the main thing i like about it as i installed it on my friends laptop is it works flawlessley out of the box but it was worrying how many modules were loaded...i take it you all edit the kernel and compile these in eventually?05:21
ubuntu_yes anyone heheh :P05:21
Nglee_: have you tried the live cd? you could try running that for a few days and see how it works05:21
poningruyggdrasil: thats because ntfs write is not built in by default in the current ubuntu kernel05:21
ubuntu_yes thats what I am using now05:21
Nglee_: having lots of modules is fine05:21
ubuntu_live cd05:21
ubuntu_lol05:21
poningruyggdrasil: you have to add that in05:21
rszt\part05:21
Nglee_: it makes no difference if you recompile with them in the kernel05:21
poningru!ntfs05:21
ubotufrom memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK05:21
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kameronubuntu_ ubuntu is a much nicer, cleaner, simpler system. the only thing i miss about mandriva is the mcc. but it's almost unnecessary on ubuntu to have a central config, everything just works.05:21
Pygiubuntu: huh, well I mostly use Slack, but I use Ubuntu for gnome development :)05:21
ahsmso i can change the protocol and all that stuff?05:21
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yggdrasilponiguru if i su and then access it i can write.05:21
ubuntu_hehe gnome on this is cool05:21
ubuntu_:)05:22
olicatmy main network connection is a wireless one, on eth2, but i've got an internal network on eth1 - how can i ssh using eth1?05:22
premBirdyKiller, i am currently using Dapper with nvidia drivers, it *is* stable05:22
fekthe problem concerning the dual desktop seems to be in the resolution05:22
ubuntu_yes some like the slack05:22
Pygiubuntu: well, it's much better here due to Patrick erased gnome from Slack :(05:22
lee_Ng,  i installed it for my friend last and it worked and looked exactly the same as my debian system...only alot simpler...as his wireless and everything was found instantly...a problem i have with debian is im continuously configruing the kernel to get one thing or another to work05:22
kameronubuntu_: the kubuntu live cd is even cooler, IMO, just because i've never liked gnome05:22
ubuntu_its smaller too05:22
fekwhen i am using 1600x1200@60 on the DFP i got the same problem05:22
poningruyggdrasil: really?05:22
poningruyggdrasil: cause I cant05:22
yggdrasilyar indeed05:22
ubuntu_ohh ok05:22
BirdyKillerprem, then help me get the damned thing working or point me somewhere that'll help?05:22
yggdrasilnah it works fine when i even if i su and start up konqueoror05:22
ubuntu_:)05:22
yggdrasilit work05:22
salvo1ubuntu_, u can do as me, u can try the livecd and than decide05:22
Nglee_: I guess it depends on your hardware, but generally only really new or obscure things need you to compile stuff. Again, you can try with the live cd and see what is supported out of the box :)05:23
ahsmhow i can change the protocol and all that stuff?05:23
JoeBlowkameron: Mirc sucks, i miss Xchat05:23
yggdrasilponi have your tried su ?05:23
ubuntu_yep thats what I am doing05:23
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ahsmhow do i edit my mouse settings so i can change the protocol?05:23
kameronJoeBlow: yeah, it's not as nice. and you have to pay for xchat on windows.05:23
ubuntu_I am somewhat tired of stuck with windblows :P05:23
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Pygiubuntu: well, erase them :D05:23
ubuntu_hehe05:23
yggdrasilim using enlightenment6 on ubuntu05:23
premBirdyKiller, I compiled nvidia drivers with patches from nvidia forums, i have a old TNT2 card it works rock solid05:23
yggdrasilits great05:23
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Dr_Willisick ;P05:24
lee_Ng, yeah means id have to download and burn the cd....i have the instalation cd here so i might just take the plunge and give it ago tonight...i just wanted to know it was stable....one thing i do need helpwith is that when i put a dvd in with debian it automatically loads up totem...and i want it to load with ogle...where would i adjust this05:24
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ahsmhow do i edit my mouse settings so i can change the protocol?05:24
kameronyggdrasil: you should try e1705:24
Dr_WillisThere are 'free' versions of xchat for windows out.  JoeBlow05:24
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yggdrasilkameron i was trying to05:24
yggdrasilim having som problems compiling stuff here05:25
olicatany ideas?05:25
ubuntu_I have found this is by far the easiest one to get connected to the dsl05:25
yggdrasilkeep getting a glibc eror05:25
poningruyggdrasil: then just chmod it and allow write for user05:25
premahsm, /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:25
JoeBlowkameron: as soon as i get these drivers set up, im going right back into ubuntu, this is just for playing a few games that i cant get working on linux, and for my girlfriend05:25
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kameronyggdrasil: it's one of my wm projects. i also want to install project looking glass05:25
Deep6what's the next revision called?05:25
striderJoeBlow: SilverX05:25
ahsmprem, thank you sir05:25
ubuntu_in other live distro's more to do05:25
ubuntu_to get connected05:25
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yggdrasillooking glass huh05:25
PygiDeep: dapper drake? :)05:25
kameronJoeBlow: that's the only reason most of us here have windows.05:25
yggdrasilhmmm05:25
shameemhi...05:25
Dr_WillisGames = Windows, Work=Linux05:25
Dr_Willis:P05:25
kameronyggdrasil: www.sun.com and search for looking glass, it's tyte05:25
ubuntu_hehe05:25
PygiJoeBlow: you can play "any" game on Linux, as long as you know how to set it up05:25
Vernon_JoeBlow: i'm here05:25
burumbuhi05:26
ubuntu_yea no doubt windows rules in the game area05:26
poningrumore like windows for = gf05:26
lee_is ubuntu more system resourceful than debian - that question goes to everyone?05:26
ubuntu_for now05:26
premDr_Willis, Games= Cedega+Linux Work=Linux05:26
Dr_WillisPygi,  and are willing to ignore all the little issues05:26
poningruerr05:26
Nglee_: there's a tool in System->Preferences for configuring what happens with removeable drives05:26
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ubuntu_untill they make ..... 2 versions for each05:26
ubuntu_lol05:26
BirdyKillerunless you work for the govt and they mandate windows machines at work, or you work for a linux gaming company and they mandate linux at home05:26
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lee_thanjs NG05:26
PygiWillis: nah, all can work good :)05:26
JoeBlowDr_Willis, yea exactly05:26
Dr_Willisprem,  and are willing to ignore all the little issues. :P05:26
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kameronlee_: depends on how many services you run, etc. it's not really more or less of a hog than debian.05:26
pinucsetone think, if i erase the windows partition will i can resize my ext3 linux partition?05:26
ahsmprem, it says no such directory05:26
kameronpinuccset: yes05:26
poningrupinucset: yes05:26
JoeBlowI cant get quake 2 on my linux, cause id software has had their server down all day05:26
lee_ok thanks kameron....going to go install it now ;) say bye bye debian05:26
salvo1i'm using a toshiba m50 and every hardware device was autoknown05:26
salvo1really great :>05:26
salvo1now i'm going crazy to disable power-off key, because my friends jokes me every time pushing it05:26
premDr_Willis, please explain "little issues"05:27
pinucsetponingru cool thanks, ill can erase the fucking windows!05:27
kameronlee_ good luck, we'll be here to help.05:27
ubuntu_lol05:27
kameronlee_ not that you'll need it :P05:27
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Deep6anyone know the screensaver password on the live cd?05:27
premahsm, /etc/X11/XF86Config*05:27
poningruDeep6: there is none05:27
burumbuevery time I try to use magnets in Wings3D (ALT+right mouse button), GNOME's Window menu popsup, how can I disable that combination?05:27
JoeBlowwhen i first went to linux, i was like ahh everything is such a pain to do, but now that im back in windows, everything pretty easy, but on the other hand, it doesnt do exactly what u want like in linux05:27
Dr_Willisprem,  lets see.. gfx not being as good at times, mouse issues, every new update to WoW seeming to break Cedega support.. same with Guild Wars.. GTA running at 2x speed....05:27
Deep6poningru, well, then when you hit enter it says cancelled and the system remains locked05:27
lee_many thanks...i shouldnt need it......if i can work from a base install of debian and get it running like i have now...ubuntu was a synch on a thinkpad....i only hope its as easy on my omnibook05:27
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Dr_Willisprem,  over all.. cedega works.. but theres always seems tobe some slight issues with it.05:28
BirdyKillerprem, my new drivers work just fine... the problem is I have to recompile, rebuild the module, and reinstall the drivers on every reboot.05:28
PygiWillis: I suggest you to "shoot" at developers to produce OpenGL based games :D05:28
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premDr_Willis, How about DirectX + Windows -> reboot and reboot and reboot05:28
kameronSeveas: -ENOSUCHTHING.. what is that?05:28
ubuntu_yea I know I just wish there was a utl, to convert all windows apps to install on linux :P05:28
ubuntu_haha05:28
kameronSeveas: is that an option.. or.. are you saying, there's no such thing?05:28
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JoeBlowubuntu_, ever tried crossover05:28
yggdrasilponiguru so chngmod it to 500 ?05:28
Dr_WillisPygi,  i wonder why the game makers  dont work with  the Wine/Cedega  guys to get where tneyc an say it 'supported' in cedega.05:28
ubuntu_nope I haven05:28
ubuntu_havent*05:29
kameronubuntu_ maybe sometime in the future. but for now we have virtual desktops, wine, cedega, crossover, etc.05:29
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ubuntu_I used vine :)05:29
Dr_Willisprem,  actually i rareluy have to reboot xp these days.. that MS update last night DID force a reboot however.. which was amuseing.05:29
ubuntu_thats about all05:29
ubuntu_haha05:29
premBirdyKiller, I am hearing such thing for the first time05:29
PygiWillis: well, I know, when I've been making (not did it in a long time tho) I've done them in OpenGL05:29
ubuntu_it works pretty good as an emu.05:29
Pygiwillis: so not compatibility probs05:29
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Dr_WillisPygi,  of course its getting where i waste less and less time on games. :P05:29
salvo1does any1 know how to disable power-off key in ubuntu??05:30
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AnObfuscatorcan anyone recommend a good USB wireless adapter with good linux support? I need WPA, and my current dlink doesn't seem to work with wpa-supplicant. :/05:30
ubuntu_hehe I see I am not the only "newbe" here05:30
ubuntu_hehe05:30
delirewhat is the current Breezy stable kernel? 2.6.12-10?05:30
ubuntu_:)05:30
PygiWillis: huh, I don't have times to do anything I am afraid, and no games as well :P05:30
Ngdelire: yes05:30
delirecheers,05:30
FRAGim having problems booting the breezy live cd, i get an error with X, im running a x700, is there anyway for me to boot off the cd with this?05:30
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FRAGim guessing its a problem with the ati drivers05:31
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Pygihuh, live cd doesnt have ati drivers05:31
mielemanjust install it.. :-)05:31
Pygiit has generic drivers05:31
FRAGoh05:31
BirdyKillerprem, I've been bitching about it for the last hour or so, how could you miss it?05:31
Dr_WillisFRAG,  also the live cd is a little out of date.. I got my X200 video working with a 'real' install05:31
burumbuis there any way to disable the popup menu that appears when pressing Alt+Right mouse button?05:31
FRAGits there a boot option i can add to boot it?05:31
Pygi!patience05:31
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.05:31
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jendaI need help with my NVidia. There seems to be nothing I can do to install it05:32
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jendaAnyone consider themselves an Nvidia guru?05:33
Pygi!nvidia05:33
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:33
jendaPygi: not good enough05:33
Pygijenda: what seems to be the issue?05:33
jendaAlright: If I follow the 'official' way, then it won't load - "couldn't find Nvidia driver module"05:34
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BirdyKillerI just fixed that problem... I'm now at the next step in the nvidia problem05:34
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jendaIf I use the Nvidia installer, it won't install, because of gcc05:35
jendaBirdyKiller: how?05:35
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ubuntu_I got the ati x1800xl05:35
ubuntu_on my other pc05:35
Pygijenda: don't use gcc 4.0 just yet05:35
FRAGso if i do a install my x700 shouldnt have a problem05:35
FRAG?05:35
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jendaPygi: It has an issue with 3.4 even05:35
Pygijenda: 3.3?05:35
jendaumm05:35
BirdyKillerjenda, export CC="gcc-3.4"05:36
jendaI don't think that's just the problem. It says command not found when it comes to the gcc version check05:36
trappistit has issues with 4.0 because the kernel was built with 3.4 - yeah, just export CC05:36
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yggdrasilponiguru that worked05:36
BirdyKillerdo you have gcc installed?05:36
yggdrasilponiguru thanks05:36
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jendaWhereas if I set the wrong gcc version, it says it's ok05:36
jendaI mean05:36
yggdrasilbirdykiller can you help me out too im trying to compile xchat and im getting something wierd05:36
jendaIt says it's NOT OK, just as it should05:36
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kameronwhat's the command that tells you about your system, what kernel, etc? man, i'm blanking.05:37
JoeBlowgod i hate windows, its already screwing up on me!05:37
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moodogevening all.05:37
BirdyKilleryggdrasil, sorry I don't know much about ubuntu :) I just have about 5000 man-hours trying to get nvidia drivers to work05:37
trappistkameron: tells you what about your system?  uname -r will tell you about your kernel.05:37
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jendaBirdyKiller: I do have it installed05:37
kamerontrappist: uname, word.. forgot.05:37
yggdrasilcan somone help me with some compiling problems05:37
kamerontrappist: uname -a was what i was looking for05:37
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striderdoes anone have to kill gnome-terminal occasionally from a virtual terminal? you can't type anything and menu's don't work05:37
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trappistmorphix: cut that out.05:38
Pygitggdrasil: what seems to be the problem>05:38
Tardis107hey how you set up ubuntu 5.10 so that you can compile?05:38
striderTardis107: get build-essential05:38
jendatrappist: If I do export gcc (3.4), it gives me an error... where can I find the log...?05:38
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yggdrasilchecking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no05:38
yggdrasil*** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...05:38
Pygiwell, you don't have glib :)05:38
yggdrasili get that when i do my ./configure05:38
BirdyKillerI used the official way... had to download kernel-headers, makeconfig them, ....05:38
Tardis107strider: is that all I have to do?05:38
trappistjenda: I'm not sure it produces a lot05:38
striderno, you wont get 3.405:38
Pygiyggdrasil: well install glib-devel or whateva :)05:39
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trappistyggdrasil: sudo apt-get install build-essential05:39
BirdyKiller/var/log/nvidia-installer.log05:39
yggdrasiltrappist05:39
yggdrasilthanks05:39
pureonewhy do ubuntu users love sudo so much?05:39
Tardis107yeah thanks05:39
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ompaulmorphix, those messages will get you kick banned if 658 people did it there would be no channel05:39
jendaBirdyKiller: thanks05:39
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yggdrasilBuilding dependency tree... Done05:39
yggdrasilbuild-essential is already the newest version.05:39
Tardis107sudo keeps newbies away from selfharm05:39
kameronpureone: i kind of dislike sudo, but i use it a bit, when i don't have a lot of root stuff to do05:39
ompaul!tell pureone about root05:39
yggdrasiltraapist you see that05:39
JoeBlowpureone, because you = user, sudo = God05:39
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pureonesudo = security risk05:40
Tardis107?05:40
pureoneompaul i know about root05:40
jendaHere it is. Please excuse the paste, it is a short one: "./usr/src/nv/conftest.sh: line 9: gcc-3.4: command not found"05:40
ompaulpureone, Wrong05:40
yggdrasiltrappist you see that05:40
striderTardis107: Default Ubuntu comes with no dev packages. Install the build-essential meta package (for gcc 4). But if you want 3.4 you have to manually add that05:40
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pureoneif someone compramises your system as your normal user that basicly have root05:40
trappistyggdrasil: sudo apt-get install liblib-dev and/or libglib2.0-dev - not sure which xchat needs05:40
Ngjenda: you probably need to install build-essential and maybe gcc-3.4 if that doesn't include it05:40
JoeBlowpureone, You must respect sudo, for he is the way05:40
kameronpureone: you've got it backwards. staying logged in as root is a security risk. sudo reduces that risk.05:40
mutRecAnyone knows merila trojan?05:40
pureonekameron eh?05:40
trappistpureone: only if he knows your password, and if you can't protect your passwords root's gone too05:41
mutRecDo you know if it's a rootKit?05:41
FieldySnutsgoogle?05:41
Tardis107strider - why would i want 3.4?05:41
yggdrasilE: Couldn't find package liblib2.0-dev05:41
ubuntu_alright, wel I guess I'll be going :P05:41
mutRecWe think it's my ubuntu server soffer a typical DDoS attack...05:41
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trappistTardis107: to build kernel-sensitive stuff05:41
JoeBlowpureone, without sudo, u can go take a piss, and mother in law can just go up and fuck your system over05:41
ubuntu_see all of you later :)05:41
JoeBlowchow05:41
ubuntu_:) chow05:41
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Tardis107thanks trappist05:41
Ngchow?!05:41
pureonejowblow, or your mum can come in and just type "sudo rm -fdrv /" just after you used it05:42
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Ngciao ;)05:42
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pureoneand they wont have to re enter the users password05:42
jendaNg: damn... that's it!!! gcc-3.4! I'll be back (BirdyKiller-beep :) thanks)05:42
JoeBlowpureone, amd if she doesnt know the password, she cant do crap05:42
striderbecause the kernel is compiled with it05:42
trappistjenda: didn't we say that?05:42
JoeBlowpureone, thats just the 15 minutes timer, im pretty sure u can log out of root05:42
mutRecwhat's the basic difference between aptitude and apt-get?05:42
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NgmutRec: aptitude is more like a command line version of synaptic05:42
BirdyKillerjenda, np05:42
jendatrappist: you said install gcc, but not gcc-3.4 :) I didn't think of that05:42
jendaBRB05:42
pureoneim sure you dont longer then 15 minutes to take a piss ;)05:42
JoeBlowpureone, but are u saying its safer without sudo at all, as in, no passwords ever05:42
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JoeBlowpureone, i wash my hands, really really well05:43
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ompaulpureone, - if that is a risk then you use a screen saver - think about what your saying - your wrong, what is the risk and what are you trying to do - btw the command in question is almost 25 years old this year05:43
striderany module you need has to be compiled with the same gc version05:43
strider*gcc05:43
pureoneJoeBlow, im saying its safer to type "su -c "command" "05:43
striderTardis107: what do you need to compile?05:43
strideranything specific05:43
JoeBlowpureone, ohh alright05:43
mutRecwell, so... what's the difference between synaptic (X-Window) and apt-get or dpkg ?05:43
mutRecwhat it's better to use?05:43
JoeBlowpureone, I like sudo, makes it easier and faster for me05:43
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ompaulpureone, you can down the amount of time that sudo is availabe if you want to05:44
JoeBlowompaul, whats the command for that?05:44
trappistmutRec: if you know what packages you need, use apt-get.  if you want to browse available packages, use a frontend like synaptic or aptitude.05:44
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pureoneso is sudo set up automaticly when you install ubuntu ?05:44
BirdyKillerI prefer to stay logged in as root on an unpatched system without a firewall running every server I can with the default settings05:44
JoeBlowpureone, yea05:44
mutRecright... thx trappist...05:44
pureoneBirdyKiller, yeah thats fun05:44
zool2005mutRec : dpkg is for manipulating .deb files05:45
JoeBlowBirdyKiller, I prefer to even name my systems as the password05:45
pureoneok well i see your points :)05:45
FieldySnutsheh.05:45
Tardis107strider: I want to compile games and similar things which dont have deb files05:45
yggdrasiltrappist that worked thanks05:45
BirdyKillerJoeBlow, that's brilliant.  I wish I had thought of that!05:45
trappistJoeBlow: I find it easier to remember if my password is my username05:45
FieldySnutsubuntu newbie here, though familiar with linux. Is there a way I can install firefox 1.5?05:45
JoeBlowBirdyKiller, youd be supprised how often it is the user name, or "Password"05:45
JoeBlowtrappist, u joke, but often its true05:45
ompaulJoeBlow, sudoers - I am looking for the syntax but you can also look at the man page05:45
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mutRecAnd if I want to modificate some parametres of my ubuntu kernel... where I must to go? I try in /usr/src/ or /boot/ or /boot/grub but I don't see my kernel source??05:46
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JoeBlowompaul, dont worry about it, ill find it later05:46
BirdyKillerJoeBlow, yeah, I found "jesus" was insanely common too05:46
jendaThere we go... finally :)05:46
BlueDevil!firefox1505:46
uboturumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org05:46
JoeBlowBirdyKiller, lol05:46
trappistmutRec: sudo apt-get source kernel-image-$(uname -r)05:46
FieldySnutsBlueDevil: thanks :)05:46
BlueDevilFieldySnuts: yw05:46
JoeBlowompaul, or name = John , User= Hacker, Password = John05:47
Hawk|-sexcopter8000m, and is it working?05:47
pureoneyou know whats even more fun PermitEmptyPasswords yes in sshd_config05:47
mutReclot of thanks trappist... right... uname -r for to know kernel release... on command... right...05:47
ChousukeThe passwords to the computers at my old school seem to follow a pattern05:47
JoeBlowBirdyKiller, or name = John , User= Hacker, Password = John05:47
ompaulJoeBlow, would that have been for trappist05:47
JoeBlowompaul, who?05:48
JoeBlowompaul, lol05:48
mutRecgood bye for everyone!05:48
Chousukepassword1, pass1word, pass2word, password3, and recent reports tell me it's now pass4word05:48
Tardis107bye05:48
FieldySnutsyikes. was hoping it wouldn't be so manual, i think i'll wait till it's in the "standard" repos.05:48
striderTardis107: sorry missed that. then build-essential will be fine ;)05:48
Tardis107lol Chousuke05:48
trappistFieldySnuts: have to wait for dapper drake then05:48
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BirdyKillerI prefer passw0rd...  It has a 0 in it, and that's the strongest shape on the keyboard05:49
JoeBlowBirdyKiller, agreed05:49
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SuperLagAny of you guys successfully set up LDAP authentication on your *ubuntu installs?05:49
trappistbut seriously, my password wants uppercase, lowercase, numbers, a space and a non-printable character like pagedown05:49
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Chousukeqwerty is popular too!05:49
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trappistcan't use pagedown during setup, but passwd takes it just fine05:50
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trappistso do sudo, ssh etc.05:50
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BirdyKillerI hate password rules, though05:50
BirdyKilleryou end up with 50 different passwords that all require the same crappy rules05:51
BlueDevili had an ex coleague of mine set up the root password as ctrl-shift-alt-enter05:51
molineroHello ubuntu users!05:51
molinerogreetings from Mexico05:51
kameronFieldySnuts: i just downloaded from http://www.mozilla.org/ and the installer works fine05:51
trappistBirdyKiller: without password rules you end up with a network full of passwords like 'password'05:51
BirdyKillerand then you have to change passwords every 30 days or whatever....  so I end up doing "01p4$sw0rd" on january, "02p4$sw0rd" in february, etc.05:51
JowiBirdyKiller: what, not "12345" ?05:52
FieldySnutskameron: right but i'm not interested in the breakages that page claims. i'd rather be able to apt-get it. i'll wait.05:52
trappistBirdyKiller: yeah I don't dig password expiry.  you get users with 30 passwords that change every few weeks and have to be secure, and they start taping them to their monitors because they're impossible to remember.05:52
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trappistFieldySnuts: no breakage here05:52
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kameronFieldySnuts: sure, just wait for updated package, shouldnt' be long05:53
BirdyKillerI'm good but I just can't do it... I count 60 passwords in my password managing software05:53
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BirdyKillera good quarter of them expire every 30-90 days05:53
Inf3ctedFxHello everyone05:53
jendaUs dvorakers have it easy with passwords... instead of " qwerty ", we type " ',.py " :)05:53
trappistthose dvorakers have all the luck05:54
Tardis107jenda: from?05:54
BirdyKillerlol05:54
jendaTardis107: from?05:54
BirdyKillerhey jenda your nvidia working perfectly?05:54
Inf3ctedFxI use Partition Magic on windows partition and I just rezise my windows partiton and give more space to set linux partition, but now I dont know hoe to merge linux partition with the new one I just made any idea?05:54
BirdyKilleror did you just get the driver installed?05:54
jendaBirdyKiller: It seems :)05:54
trappistI like biometric passwords. place the tip of your nose on 'a' and roll your head to the right.05:55
BirdyKillerI want to see if you have the same issue as I do05:55
BirdyKillerhave you rebooted since you installed the drivers?05:55
jendaTardis107: Dvorak is an english layout05:55
sylhi... i want to get ksocrat-data package from multiverse but apt-get can't find it there though i can see it in Packages.gz file05:55
Tardis107ahh ok jenda05:55
jendaBirdyKiller: no, not yet05:55
Tardis107im from UK05:55
Davey`Tardis107: I'm so sorry05:55
BirdyKillerjenda, if you have the same issue as I do it won't work... you'll have to do everything all over after a reboot.. that's where I'm stuck05:56
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FieldySnutstrappist: heh.05:56
BirdyKillerjenda, probably because I'm so damned tired at this point... I've tried mkinitrd and whatnot, I can't find anything that would be changing the settings..05:56
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jendaBirdyKiller: And how did you install it?05:56
miketechHi05:56
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dawidhi05:57
trappistjenda: you still messing with the nvidia drivers?05:57
BirdyKillerjenda, typical sh nvidia....... etc05:57
miketechhow can i test the current ubuntu development snapshot?05:57
BirdyKillerI am, he may have it fixed :)05:57
Tardis107Davey`: why so sorry Davey`?05:57
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jendatrappist: done, I hope05:57
Davey`Tardis107: I'm an ex-pat ;)05:57
trappistBirdyKiller: what seems to be the problem05:57
miketechthere are dapper install ISOs from 14th of december. is this the latest version?05:57
BirdyKillertrappist, finally got drivers installed but they're gone after reboot... I can get you the error in a second05:58
Tardis107Davey`:pat meaning...05:58
Davey`patriot05:58
Chousukemiketech: latest preview I suppose.05:58
gnomefreakdapper is not even in testing yet its still alpha05:58
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Chousukemiketech: Dapper changes constantly until the freeze.05:58
Davey`Tardis107: I'm still technically British, but I live in Florida now. Its tonnes better. And cheaper :)05:58
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miketechyeah sure, it is not for a productive system05:58
stridermiketech: there are snapshots05:58
striderhttp://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily-live/current/05:58
miketechah thanks05:59
Tardis107Davey`:smooth move - you should buy a flat near orlando and rent it out to tourists05:59
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Chousukemiketech: I would probably use it only if I was doing development on it05:59
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ChousukeHmm05:59
ltorvalds2006Hey, guys, can anyone help me here?05:59
echeeseWhat repositories should I use?05:59
Davey`Tardis107: heh, my sis-in-law is an ex-estate-agent, from the horror stories, I think I'll pass :)05:59
gnomefreakltorvalds2006, dont know what is the issue?05:59
Davey`Tardis107: I'm only 90 minutes from Orlando though :)05:59
miketechstrider, but these are only live cds :)06:00
BirdyKillerbah I'll have to reboot it to get the error again I didn't save it anywhere...06:00
gnomefreakubotu tell echeese about sources06:00
Tardis107Davey`: I guess it all depends on how much time/financial freedom you have06:00
ChousukeI wonder how many developers use Xen and install dapper as a virtual machine.06:00
miketechChousuke, yeah exactly :)06:00
Tardis107Davey`90 minutes!!!06:00
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ltorvalds2006I have just recently installed a second hard drive on my Ubuntu system, and Ubuntu is not seeing the second hard drive.06:00
ltorvalds2006In fact, the only hard drive Ubuntu sees is the one on which the OS was installed.06:01
pureoneltorvalds2006, fdisk -l as root06:01
miketechand there is no installation cd of ubuntu? only the live-cd?06:01
miketechi mean of the current snapshot06:01
ltorvalds2006"fdisk -l" as root, to find the second hard drive?06:02
trappistdoh06:02
dawidhow can i extract a *.* file oftype "rar"06:02
stridermiketech: sorry06:02
pureoneltorvalds2006, to see if its there06:02
stridermiketech: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/06:02
deFryskdawid, sudo apt-get install rar-nonfree06:02
pureonedawid unrar e *.rar06:02
miketechah great thanks06:02
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dawidhehe thanks06:02
stridermiketech: I upgraded from Breezy myself. check cdimage.ubuntu.com formore options06:03
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ltorvalds2006Thanks, guys, I'll try it!06:03
BirdyKillerwhat's the difference between "generic default" and "generic" kernels anyways?06:03
pureoneltorvalds2006, if its there and you can see it then just format it to whatever filesystem you like and update fstab06:04
kameronBirdyKiller: one is default06:04
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miketechok06:04
Tardis107Poll:type SHIPIT if you know about ubuntu's shipit service06:04
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ltorvalds2006er... "update fstab"?  how so?06:04
pureonevim /etc/fstab06:04
pureoneman mount06:04
r0bby___ok good question what does this mean:06:04
gnomefreakTardis107, everyone should know about it06:04
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Tardis107hopefully gnome :)06:05
r0bby___'can't recate mcop directory'\06:05
BirdyKillertrappist, "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7667, but this X module is version 1.0.8178...please be sure they all have the same version"06:05
echeesethanks gnomefreak and ubotu06:05
ltorvalds2006i know how to access the "fstab" file... but what am i to put into it?06:05
r0bby___ubotu, , tell me about mcop06:05
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Tardis107gnomefreak: have you ordered from shipit?06:05
pureoneman mount will explain it ltorvalds200606:05
r0bby___:x06:05
ltorvalds2006ok06:06
yggdrasilcool06:06
ltorvalds2006i'll get on that as soon as i can06:06
gnomefreakTardis107, yes06:06
r0bby___ltorvalds2006 would know everything \06:06
r0bby___since if he's Linus Torvalds, wrote the kernel :)06:06
echeeseheh06:07
echeese"man mount"06:07
echeesethat's so gay06:07
r0bby___echeese, yeh I know06:07
ltorvalds2006r0bby___, i'm not the REAL Linus Torvalds06:07
deFryskltorvalds2006, should u not be in #kubuntu ? ;p06:07
r0bby___so hard to use manpages06:07
pureoneyeah06:07
r0bby___imposter!06:07
pureonegod forbid people actuly learn06:07
dawidcan sum1 help me extract a rar file06:07
ltorvalds2006not entirely06:07
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dawidwhen i try and right click and say extract it says "06:08
dawidArchive type not supported."06:08
deFryskdawid, rightclick it in nautilus06:08
deFryskdawid, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree06:08
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=== gnomefreak so lost :(
dawiddeFrysk : That package is not found06:08
dawidand yes i have enabled the universals06:08
ompaul!tell echeese about gay06:08
deFryskdawid, also enable multiverse06:08
pureoneapt-cache search ^unrar06:08
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r0bby___so what does "can't create mcop directory"06:09
deFrysk!info unrar-nonfree06:09
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ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB06:09
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ompaulecheese, I am not, nor do I care to know your own opinion but this is a G rated channel and we like to keep it that way :)06:09
phos-phorosfuck06:09
phos-phorosoops06:09
pureonewhat does the g stand for *grins*06:09
r0bby___g stands for curse and be +q'd06:10
echeeseno comment06:10
jendaphos-phoros: watch the language06:10
gnomefreakphos-phoros, he said g rated :(06:10
yarkoHi All! I am trying to put ubuntu 5.10 on my chiefs Powerbook but apparently I need to have patched kernel to detect CDROM  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1857906:10
pureonehehe06:10
yarkocould anyone point me to some description on how to rebuild the image or to say installation kernel since there is howto rebuild the image  http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuRemastering06:10
phos-phorosmy apologies06:10
gnomefreaklol06:10
r0bby___ever watch a disney movie and see them curse?06:10
pureoneyeah06:10
molineroSomebody instalated in powepc?06:10
dawiddeFrysk :I Have enabled all repos that were available includeing extras added06:10
ompaulecheese, :)06:10
pureoneim used to the UK film ratings :)06:10
pureonein the uk its PG06:10
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r0bby___well then this is pg06:10
r0bby___now06:10
deFryskdawid, add multiverse to the universe lines06:10
r0bby___keep it pg06:10
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ompaulpureone, no G = U or E in the UK06:11
deFrysk!repos06:11
dawidk06:11
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:11
pureoneah06:11
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ompaulgeneral / universal / exempt06:11
deFryskdawid, read what ubotu just said06:11
ompaul!anyone06:11
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ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>06:11
BirdyKillertrappist, you have to tease me like that?  get me started and hopeful and then not say anything? :'(06:11
zeyadanybody can help me in installing Jap on ubuntu?06:11
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JoeBlowcan anyone successfully register here http://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/newstore/register.jsp?status=new06:11
dawidty06:12
pureonewell im not going to swear :)06:12
echeeseIs it safe to use the dapper sources and upgrade?06:12
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BirdyKillerecheese, it's not even safe to leave your house06:12
gnomefreaksafe dapper?06:12
echeeseBirdyKiller, I've known that for years :|06:12
JoeBlowsomeone wanna see if they can find "Community Program" here http://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/newstore/register.jsp?status=new06:12
gnomefreaklol06:12
gnomefreakecheese, dapper has more broken packages than you want right now :)06:13
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zeyadI need help in installing jap on Ubuntu06:13
BirdyKillerJoeBlow, nope.. I'm not answering any more of your questions until my nvidia issue is settled :) even if it means buying women for every man who works on the drivers and kernel06:13
jenda!codecs06:13
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories06:13
zeyad???06:13
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ompaulecheese, you can use it in April on or after the 20th when it is a released06:13
echeeseBAH.06:14
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JoeBlowBirdyKiller, whats the problem, ive never dealt with nvidia, but u can try me06:14
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phos-phorosI have set dma = on and cd_speed to the appropriate setting in hdparm.conf for my dvd drive, installed libdvdcss, mplayer/mplayer fonts and xine...and I am having problems with automount/mounting dvds, any help would be greatly appreciated06:14
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ompaulecheese, in the mean time if you want to gamble you can install it but it is broken in parts and will remain like that with more and more changes until release day06:14
BirdyKillerJoeBlow, well problem #68 is what I pasted a minute ago to trappist...06:15
gnomefreak!info jap06:15
phos-phorosI can mount some dvds, just not what I would assume to be copywrite protected/encrypted discs even06:15
phos-phoros*copyright06:15
dawidTHANKS de Frysk and the rest i got it to install now :-)06:15
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zeyadany body can help me in installing JAP???06:15
echeeseompaul, oh dear, and there's no way to get rid of it?06:15
gnomefreakthey still havent fixed the locales issue :(06:15
ompaulecheese, did you install the full beastie?06:16
echeeseNot yet06:16
gnomefreakecheese, you have to re-install breezy :)06:16
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ompaulecheese, so then you have breezy stay like that :)06:16
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BirdyKillerJoeBlow, I'm assuming something was not fully removed from ubuntu's nvidia drivers and it's screwing up my config somehow when I reboot06:17
BirdyKillerJoeBlow, but at this point I'm just confused06:17
delirecan someone confirm whether the stock breezy kernel comes with the serial_8250 module precompiled, or compiled into the kernel?06:17
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Ngdelire: [4294670.507000]  Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 48 ports, IRQ sharing enabled06:18
delireeg, for those running breezy that have never compiled a kernel, could you? modprobe -l | grep serial_8250.06:18
gnomefreakstock kernel?06:18
Ngdelire: that is in my dmesg, so it looks like it06:18
delireNg: cheers06:18
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jeansalu sa fart?06:18
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gnomefreakbreezy has gone through 3 kernels if not more06:18
deliregnomefreak 2.6.12-10 is what i'm interested in.06:18
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nics__BirdyKiller: the nvidia installer puts the defaultdepth to 24 which is wrong, needs to be 16, thats sometimes helps06:19
ompaul!fr06:19
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais06:19
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dawidso does any1 have experience using cedega? or win4lin?06:19
r0bby___:-)06:19
burumbufinally solved it: /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier=disable in gconf-editor (to get rid of menu window popping when pressing ALT+mouse button)06:19
delireNg: do you mind me asking what your system is?06:19
jeansalu tu taplle commen? sex??in06:19
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delireNg: thinkpad?06:19
phos-phorosnics__, why is the default color depth of 24bit wrong?06:19
phos-phorosworks fine with fglrx06:19
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darkritualAny one here to help me with my surround set?06:20
nics__phos-phoros: for the nvidia driver, does not seem to like it06:20
gnomefreakjean try #ubuntu-fr06:20
ompaulSeveas, !!!!06:20
Ngdelire: a dell latitude d60006:20
burning_bronxah it's the gnomefreak06:20
delireNg: do you have a Connexant modem onboard?06:20
burning_bronxhow's the holidays :P06:20
gnomefreakyep :)06:20
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gnomefreakgood and yours?06:21
burning_bronxI am kinda sick06:21
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burning_bronxflu killed me06:21
gnomefreaksorry to hear that06:21
nics__well actually it does but certain configs bugger up06:21
burning_bronxI'll live through it06:21
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ves_Would anybody have any ideas why on boot I can't cd into my home directory with an "Unable to open /home/gavin" dir despite the permissions, ownership, and having myself added to the sudoers, and the only way to startx is via root?06:21
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delireves_ likely the directory isn't exectuble. should read drwx...06:22
trappistves_: you're positive about permissions?  what are the permissions?06:22
gnomefreakves_,  i dont remember haivng to be root to use startx06:22
Ngdelire: not sure, I'm on a company LAN, sorry06:22
ves_I'm positive about the persmissions..06:22
ves_I've went as far to chmod 777 my whole home dir06:23
delire'ls -l /home/you'06:23
jeansalu sa fart06:23
jeanje sui brice de nice le roi de la pice?06:23
jeanin in oue06:23
delireves_ that's just the contents, not the directory itself.06:23
delirea directory is a file.06:23
r0bby___english only please06:23
trappist!fr06:23
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais06:23
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BirdyKillernics__, that's not it... getting the "the NVIDIA kernel module is 1.0.7667, but this X module is version 1.0.8178.  Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same version"06:23
delireNg: right, cheers06:23
ves_delire: I did chown -R gavin:gavin /home/gavin and chmod 755 -R /home/gavin?06:23
gnomefreakubotu tell jean about fr06:23
dawidDOES any1 object to me installing Win4Lin, or is there any reason why it could ruin my distro?06:24
nics__BirdyKiller: ahh ok, you upgraded the kernel?06:24
ves_added myself to sudoers and yet any time I try and login it gives Unable to open cd /home/gavin06:24
Ngdelire: lspci suggests it's an intel modem anyway, sorry06:24
w-muteHey, folks. During installation I get a hang with a blue screen just before the partitioner starts up. Any ideas why?06:24
ompauljean,   >>>>/join #ubuntu-fr<<<<<<<< pour vous!!!!06:24
yggdrasilHey folks thatnks for all the help06:24
nics__ves_: whatabout the perms on /home ?06:24
delireves_ paste the output of 'ls -l /home | grep gavin'06:24
trappistnics__: good thinkin06:24
ves_k, the machines up stairs and I can't ssh atm so two seconds06:24
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nics__cheers :-)06:24
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BirdyKillernics__, I upgraded kernel before I installed the drivers... several reboots in between and I've re-installed em since.. it does it everytime I reboot I have to re-install drivers06:25
dawidhow can i edit my partitions from within ubuntu, i stil have free space?06:25
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ves_nics__, delire: drwxr-xr-x gavin gavin06:25
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ompauldawid, fdisk will walk you though it if you know the partition name06:25
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nics__BirdyKiller: if I remember getting my dapper install working I had to upgrade the restricted kernel modules as well and then re-install the nvidia drivers, all from synaptic06:26
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dawidty06:26
ubuntu__hello06:26
nics__ves_: and on /home itself?06:26
ompauldawid, I presume you mean that you want to bring more space to ubuntu - not change existing sizes06:26
Jowidelire and the rest. dont think it is either a non-existent user problem or a userdir permission problem. new users get the same error.06:26
burning_bronxyo06:26
BirdyKillernics__, can't even get into synaptic at the moment but I'll give it a shot...06:26
dawidyes :-)06:26
ves_nics__: two secs again sorry :)06:26
nics__BirdyKiller: oops :-) should have realised that06:26
Jowidelire: ves_ problem that is. anyway, need to go.06:26
ubuntu__im on the live cd in linux, ive never had the internet before, whats there to do in linux now? :D . Is it possible to change colorso f things etc?06:26
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delireJowi so it's a known bug of some sort?06:27
Ngubuntu__: system->preferences->theme06:27
Ngubuntu__: as for what is there to do, have a look through the applications menu06:27
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BirdyKillerdone an apt-get dist-upgrade and update and I'm out of new stuff there06:27
trappistves_: why not try creating a new user and starting from scratch thusly06:27
Jowidelire: not a bug, ves_ system got messed up and is now using the recovery mode06:27
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Jowinight all06:27
Ngubuntu__: but there are many many more things that aren't installed, there are thousands of ubuntu packages available online :)06:27
delirethanks, bye06:27
nics__BirdyKiller: could always change the driver back to nv in xorg.conf for the time being06:27
ubuntu__anything what can make it do cool stuff? ;o06:27
teclisDoes anyone know a good graphical svn-client?06:28
ompaulubuntu_, 1750006:28
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BirdyKillernics__, I have to use nvidia one because nv crashes on me06:28
ompaulubuntu_, define cool06:28
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ubuntu__i thought that would come up, and im not sure how i can define cool06:28
ubuntu__but what can you do more on linux then windows?06:28
w-muteThanks, folks. I got it. There was a windows partition on the HD and everything works smoothly since I removed it.06:28
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ves_trappist: I've tried that but I get the same error06:28
ubuntu__can i install java using live cd and try a dl ?06:29
nics__BirdyKiller: really? bugga thats not good06:29
ves_unable to cd to the users home dir06:29
ompaulubuntu_, one persons cool is another persons drool, as I was told by some school kids, who installed Ubuntu themselves06:29
gnomefreakompaul, thats base sources.list with just universe right? (17500)06:29
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burning_bronxubuntu__, you need to have an idea of what you want to do06:29
ves_nics__: /home is drwxr-xr-x root root06:29
ubuntu__i want to get gaim back open06:29
BirdyKillernics__, yeah.. I'm thinking maybe if I reinstall again from scratch and try over...06:29
trappistves_: anything in dmesg?06:29
ompaulgnomefreak, think so06:29
BirdyKillernics__, but this is already a scratch install06:29
C-O-L-Thello06:29
ubuntu__i closed it and im still chatting but its dissapeared06:29
nics__lol06:29
C-O-L-Twho can help to me?06:29
ves_trappist: two secs again :) man I'm getting a workout06:29
ompaulgnomefreak, now you have me doubting myself06:29
delireves_ and /home/gavin?06:29
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trappistC-O-L-T: nobody if you don't ask a question06:29
gnomefreakompaul, lol06:29
ompaul!tell C-O-L-T about enter06:30
BirdyKillerhmm maybe i can grep 1.0.7667 and see WHAT is referring to that version06:30
C-O-L-TI have Kubuntu but I installed GNOME. Everything works fine the only problem is that I can not play music with Rythmbox!06:30
C-O-L-TI can play media with Totem xine06:30
gnomefreakubuntu_, right click and configure the bottom bar and i think its taskmanager you want back on bar06:30
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nics__BirdyKiler: you tried seeing what sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade thinks needs upgrading?06:30
ubuntu__how do you change the port in BitTorrent-GNOME06:30
C-O-L-Tand I had to download xine engine for amarok and kaffeine too06:30
polpakC-O-L-T, did you install all the gstreamer codecs?06:30
dawidNTFS Write is not supported, wht not?06:31
BirdyKillernics__, yup06:31
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Seveasdawid, it's still unsafe06:31
burning_bronxdawid, it could kill your system big time :)06:31
dawidyes but whats the holdup..06:31
BirdyKillernics__, 0 left06:31
burning_bronxyou're free to try06:31
polpakdawid, too much potential to damage your system06:31
C-O-L-Tpolpak: I need xine not gstreamer, I needed xine on Kubuntu too06:31
trappistdawid: ntfs is very hard to reverse-engineer.  there will be write support in 2.6.15 though.06:31
ompauldawid, cos the nice people that own it will not tell the world how to interoperate with it06:31
dawidi mean i know M$ create crap i deas but it cant be that difficult06:31
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ves_http://gav.brokentrain.net/upload/syslog06:31
burning_bronxdawid, actually if you have your ntfs system backed up you should really try ntfs write06:31
burning_bronx:P06:31
dawidu mean M$ wont give out how it works06:31
polpakC-O-L-T, rhythmnbox uses gstreamer afaik06:31
burning_bronxhelp with feedback06:31
Seveasdawid, indeed06:31
ves_delire: same thing only with gavin gavin06:32
bash0hi guys06:32
dawidburning_bronx : There is no way im turning experimental writing on.. nooo my music and movies.. nooo06:32
C-O-L-Tpopak: so what to do then?06:32
ubuntu__hello? -.-06:32
bash0got myself breeze onto my lappy! really nice OS!!06:32
trappistdawid: you underestimate how hard it is.  you open the filesystem in a hex editor, make a small change, see what happened, kiss your filesystem goodbye, make a new one, rinse and repeat.06:32
polpakC-O-L-T, install all the gstreamer codecs06:32
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BirdyKillernics__, maybe I can just setup an ssh server and tell my brother he can have $50 and one of my best cigars if he fixes it...06:32
polpakubotu tell C-O-L-T about restriced06:32
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strokeyHow do i install Sun Java on linux? :x06:33
bash0i love the fancy startup script... using sid on my desktop and it's really a fancy laptop now06:33
ves_trouble started about 15:32:3906:33
polpakubotu tell strokey about restriced06:33
trappistBirdyKiller: I'll volunteer to be your brother06:33
trappist!tell strokey about java06:33
dawidtrappist : Well since i heard the word reverse-engineer im going to shutup cause i just so happen to know how complex HEX editing is.. hehe06:33
BirdyKillertrappist, you haven't said a single thing to me since you asked what the problem was :)06:33
polpakstrokey, read the restriced wiki, it's there06:33
C-O-L-Tpolpak: I say again that I have Kubuntu and I just installed GNOME. Everything works in Kubuntu mp3, avi, with xine engines06:33
polpakstrokey, as are many other helpful hints06:33
bash0could you tell me how i could get sw-suspend to work without loosing the fancy startup script?06:33
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delireves_ i really don't know what's up. you can't 'sudo cd /home/gavin'?06:33
C-O-L-Tpolpak: And Totem works with xine06:33
trappistBirdyKiller: sorry, I stepped away and may have missed something :)06:33
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polpakC-O-L-T, I know that. But you want to use rhythmnbox which uses gstreamer06:34
yggdrasilxchat still has a bit of problems with transperency06:34
ves_delire: I can do that as root, but not as 'gavin' because I can't login to gavin06:34
yggdrasilkinda lame06:34
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polpakC-O-L-T, so you need gstreamer plugins.06:34
nics__BirdyKiller: lol. have you checked what nvidia packages you have installed?06:34
C-O-L-Tpolpak: how to get that06:34
ves_sudo cd /home/gavin as root gives an unable to open /etc/sudoers permission denied error06:34
trappistves_: if you're root, can you su to gavin?06:34
bash0any laptop users in here? know a laptop channel for ubuntu users?06:34
burning_bronxI am a laptop user >.>06:34
SeveasC-O-L-T, add my repo and install ubuntu-multimedia-gnome to get all you need for multimedia on gnome06:34
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polpakC-O-L-T, ubotu just told you. Go to the restriced formats wiki06:34
Seveasthat's the easiest06:34
burning_bronxit's the same stiff - only diff hardware06:34
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BirdyKillertrappist, I thought I removed em all, but I don't know the command to check :)06:34
delireves_ well you don't need to sudo if you're root.06:35
bash0burning_bronx: you got software suspend working with ubuntu?06:35
trappistBirdyKiller: removed all what?  command to check what?06:35
sovvy2009Hey all - whos heard of micronations?06:35
ves_delire: I'm only root through the recovery console06:35
StarKruzrburning_bronx: are you actually from the Bronx?06:35
C-O-L-TSeveas: how to add your repo06:35
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BirdyKillertrappist, removed all nvidia packages, command to check if any linger06:35
delireves_ in other words you saying you can't cd /home/gavin as root? bizarre.06:35
Seveas!tell C-O-L-T about seveas06:35
bash0sure why would he name himself like that if he wouldnt be? :-P06:35
ves_delire: I can't login to root anywhere else, cause the login is invalid or something06:35
BirdyKillerI'm sure that's the problem I just can't FIND em anywhere06:35
trappistBirdyKiller: dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia06:35
polpaktell ves_ about root06:35
delireves_ is this an old system?06:35
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polpak!tell ves_ about root06:35
delirepolpak he knows about root..06:35
ves_delire: no, breezy06:35
bash0!tell me about swsuspend06:36
polpakDelgul_at_work, oh06:36
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burning_bronxStarKruzr, if I was from the bronx I wouldn't ever put such a nickname on06:36
bash0aah ubotu... nice name06:36
kremonteis there anyway to install ubuntu w/ a wireless network w/ a wep key?06:36
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StarKruzrO_o06:36
polpakdelire, err... You sure?06:36
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StarKruzrdude06:36
bash0ubet ubotu06:36
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strokeycan someone just pm me in how to install java, thats all i wanna do :o06:36
StarKruzrI'M from the Bronx and it wouldn't bother me terribly.  :p06:36
ves_adduser deluser, works fine but I can't loging to the newly created account with the same erro "unable to cd /home/xxx"06:36
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gnomefreakubotu tell kremonte about install06:36
polpakstrokey, I had ubotu do that already06:36
BirdyKillertrappist, thanks.  apt-get and I have to have a little talk.  I see nvidia-glx even though I distinctly remember removing it.06:36
bash0strokey did you try dpkg -i javapackage ?06:36
polpakubotu tell strokey about restricted06:36
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strokeythat tells me lots of other info polpak , thats not helpful :/06:37
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bash0wow DangerMouse!!06:37
polpakstrokey, even the part called "Installing SUN Java" ????06:37
bash0the famouse DM is back06:37
delireves_ so when you boot up you're just a dumped to a root prompt?06:37
ves_delire: yeah, basically06:37
ves_and I can't even login from there06:37
gnomefreakubotu tell strokey about java06:37
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ves_need to stick in the install disk and boot recovery06:38
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strokey!javadebs06:38
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy06:38
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BirdyKillertrappist, there's also an nvidia-kernel-common, but I can't remove it without removing linux-amd64-generic etc.06:38
nics__BirdyKiller: I have nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-settings installed06:38
PerryJrhello06:38
TaQhello there! the Ubuntu graphical package manager is Smart, right?06:38
gnomefreakeveryone alwasy takes the easy way :(06:38
kremontecan't find anyone on the wiki =/06:38
ves_delire: the trouble all started with an accidental ctrl+c during a make install, installing banshee06:38
kremonteanytghing*06:38
trappistTaQ: define smart.06:38
kremonteanything* >.>06:38
BirdyKillernics__, but are you using nvidia drivers from their website?06:38
gnomefreakwhat are people gonna do when that server dies?06:38
delireves_ quite bizarre. i'd reinstall.06:38
bash0so guys... u dont use software suspend hu?06:39
TaQtrappist, http://zorked.net/smart/doc/README.html06:39
ves_delire: that's what I'm thinking :(06:39
burning_bronxreinstall is for wimps :P06:39
polpakgnomefreak, that's why I always point them to the restricted format wiki06:39
nics__BirdyKiller: no from synaptic repositries06:39
trappistbash0: software suspend works on some laptops and not others06:39
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ves_damn06:39
BirdyKillernics__, that's the issue :P06:39
trappistTaQ: no thanks06:39
delireves_ it will take less time to reinstall this partially installed system that it would to recover a broken one. as far as i can see login itself is not installed properly. you could try a 'dpkg --configure -a'06:39
gnomefreakpolpak, i shouldnt say anyting i use a java repo :(06:39
bash0trappist: yah it works on mine... fact is i don't know if there's a ubuntu swsuspend or something06:39
polpakgnomefreak, =p06:39
TaQtrappist, but is that graphical package manager that comes by default with Ubuntu ?06:39
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nics__BirdyKiller: if its any comfort they work fine and I have xcompmgr making it look loooovely06:40
ves_delire: I'll give that a try and failing that reinstall unless anyone else has anything else to try..06:40
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BirdyKillernics__, they don't work on newer geforce cards06:40
trappistTaQ: synaptic is... and there are others06:40
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delireves_ ok, good luck.06:40
Storki forget how to install java :\ lol06:40
delirenics__ screenshot?06:40
ves_delire: cheers for your time and help though06:40
TaQtrappist, oh man, both with "s", I messed the things. thanks!06:40
nics__BirdyKiller: really? mine is a g-force go5200 ( ? ) I think06:40
delireves_ no problem. good luck there ;)06:40
polpakubotu tell Stork about restricted06:40
trappistbash0: it's not ubuntu-specific.  every laptop I've ever seen will do a software suspend, but they're not all supported by linux.06:40
gnomefreakubotu tell Stork about java06:40
ves_delire: I can even boot X on root, so failing that I could just root forever! :)06:41
Storki followed the tutorial on help.ubuntu.com but i don't know how to set the environmental variables06:41
nics__delire: where can i send one?06:41
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delireves_ hmm, not wise ;)06:41
trappistStork: export VARIABLE=value06:41
ves_delire: :)06:41
polpakStork, yeah.. you should check the wiki. It explains how to specify which version of java you want to use as 'java' on your system06:41
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BirdyKillernics__, geforce 7800 doesn't like em much..  no idea why but it seems to be a widespread problem.  Stock install from ubuntu CD left me with a crashed system.  Had to use my reset button for the very first time06:41
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delirenics__ it's not important. you could use flicker or even http://www.lynucs.org/06:42
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StarKruzrI miss having a dog.06:42
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nics__BirdyKiller: nightmare, suprised the generic nv drivers don't work though as they aren't from nvidia and just do 2d stuff06:43
dawidwhat do we do wit *.rpm ?06:43
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trappistdawid: you mostly ignore them06:43
dawidhehe06:43
StarKruzrdawid: you can use a tool called alien to make .debs out of them.06:43
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polpakdawid, well you can use alien to turn it into a deb, but you should try to find suitable deb replacements if you can06:44
nics__delire: I'll pass then for the mo :-) just have it set so that windows fade in and out with a drop shadow, all very nice but you HAVE to hardware acceleration for it to be usable06:44
trappistdawid: if you *had* to install an rpm you could use alien to convert it to .deb06:44
dawidokay thanks.. thats what i wanted to know, i have a deb and a rpm so obviously ill go with deb :-)06:44
StarKruzrtrappist: does that carry over the dependencies too?06:44
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delirenics__ np06:45
trappistStarKruzr: packages built for a completely different system with different package naming conventions can't really translate dependencies like that, so no.06:45
gnomefreak!alien06:45
ubotuit has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/06:45
delirei've never had an issue06:45
BirdyKillerdoes anyone know where I put my ubuntu CD? :)06:45
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gnomefreakBirdyKiller, in the cd rom drive?06:46
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BirdyKillernope :(06:46
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gnomefreakthan nope si=orry :(06:46
gnomefreaksorry even06:46
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BirdyKillerhmph... I refuse to burn a new copy just because I can't find mine06:47
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BirdyKillergot it!  under the water bottle06:47
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castidadhello!06:47
gnomefreakBirdyKiller, im thinking and correct me if im wrong but thats not a good place for it :(06:48
castidadI'm trying to sove a problem with the "macromedia" Flash fonts!06:48
castidadThe test in Flash movies is not diaplaying at all?06:48
castidadanybody has any idea?06:48
BirdyKillergnomefreak, agreed.  I promptly moved it back to the cd-rom drive where it belongs.06:48
gnomefreaklol BirdyKiller06:49
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mwecastidad: you say you have problems with fonts, or flash doesn't work at all?06:49
gnomefreak!flash06:49
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:49
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kremonte!freeformats06:49
ubotuhmm... freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats06:49
StorkDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=amd64-linux fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin06:49
Storkwhat's wrong with that?06:49
AstralJavaHello everyone. Is there anyone who has managed to get IrDA work?06:49
nics__BirdyKiller: have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8588806:50
castidadNo! Flash works! (with images and animations), but when in every part of a movie which is supposed to diplay test (tested in other dsitributions and in WinXP) it does'nt. Thanks for answering06:50
trappistStarKruzr: the sun jre isn't open source and can't be compiled, so that won't make a i586 binary a 64-bit executable06:50
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StarKruzrI think IRDA worked for me in The Distant Past(TM)06:50
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trappistoops06:51
ceeshoi06:51
trappistStork: the sun jre isn't open source and can't be compiled, so that won't make a i586 binary a 64-bit executable06:51
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pinucsetone think, i've linux in ext3 and a partition with nothing (without format), how can i do linux ext3 partition higher?06:51
ceeshello  all06:51
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Storki see, i just took that off the RestrictedFormats article06:51
castidadhey anybody? mew?06:52
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castidadhey anybody? mewe06:52
mwecastidad: flash player needs certain fonts. I don't remember which ones though. sorry06:52
castidadhey anybody? mwe?06:52
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gnomefreak!fonts06:52
uboturumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto06:52
AstralJavaStarKruzr: You wouldn't happen to know what is wrong with Ubuntu Breezy?06:52
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mwecastidad: I think the installer says which ones it needs06:52
BirdyKillernics__, don't think I saw that one.. will give it a shot.... do you know how to force removal of a package that you already removed but can still be found with dpkg?06:53
StarKruzrwell, what module handles the IRDA device, AstralJava?06:53
gnomefreakwith -f maybe?06:53
StarKruzryou might wanna look in dmesg and see what it has to say about IRDA.06:53
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nics__BirdyKiller: nope, --force-remove?06:53
AstralJavaStarKruzr: I'm trying to modprobe smsc-ircc2, but it claims there is no such device06:53
BirdyKiller'says it's not installed so not removed...06:54
StarKruzrAstralJava: has it ever worked?06:54
StarKruzrand does it work in Windows?06:54
AstralJavaStarKruzr: Yes, it works in WinXP06:54
StarKruzrokay06:54
BirdyKillermaybe I should just reinstall, recompile kernel after removing all the nvidia crap and make another attempt06:54
castidadmwe: the installer of Flash (download form macromedia) does not say it06:54
StarKruzrso then smsc-ircc2 is more than likely the wrong module, no?06:54
mweBirdyKiller: install it again. then remove it06:54
nics__BirdyKiller: dpkg -purge?06:54
mwecastidad: well it did for me06:54
castidadthe one downloaded form Mmedia?06:55
BirdyKillermwe, that's some damned good microsoft logic.  it just might work.06:55
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mweBirdyKiller: it does06:55
mweBirdyKiller: or rather did for me once06:55
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BirdyKillerwell it can't make matters WORSE, that's for sure06:55
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AstralJavaStarKruzr: I wouldn't be surprised, but then I can't find information about what other module to use. How could I find out whether the system recognizes the hardware at all?06:56
BirdyKillersigh06:56
StarKruzrwell, you're not spelling it wrong.  when I did modprobe yourmom just now it said FATAL: module yourmom not found06:56
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gnomefreaksomeone told me theres a new virus for linux lmao he said its in .exe format :(06:56
StarKruzrwell, here's the thing06:56
BirdyKillerwell well well :(06:56
preglowwould changing sources.list to ubuntu repos on a standard debian work as a means of installing ubuntu?06:56
gnomefreakpreglow, it could give you issues06:57
preglowgnomefreak: yeah, i'm aware of that, i'm just wondering if it _could_ work :)06:57
StarKruzrif the hardware is there, barring the possbility of you having some wildly bizarre architecture Linux doesn't understand, when you modprobe it it should at least fail in a more useful way than "no such device."06:57
StarKruzrhuh.06:57
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BirdyKillerdpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting '/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1' with different file '/usr/lib32/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa', not allowed06:57
StarKruzrI wonder if there is an entry in /dev for it.06:57
BirdyKillerdpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove):06:57
ManifoldGuys.06:58
ManifoldWhere's the menu file for Ubuntu stored?06:58
gnomefreakpreglow, like i said could give you problems so i would say no to be on safe side06:58
mwepreglow: debian packages can break your system. however putting any apt mirror in sources.list will make apt use it06:58
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ManifoldI know how to edit the menu file, but I can't find the file itself.06:58
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preglowi need decent distro desperately, and have no blank cdrs around06:58
AstralJavaStarKruzr: There is /dev/ircomm*06:58
preglowhrmph06:58
bash0wow got kicked06:59
Manifoldpreglow, buy a CDR.06:59
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BirdyKillerlike the /boot/grub/menu.list ?06:59
mwepreglow: I would strongly recommend against putting debian mirrors in there though06:59
bash0guys software suspend works in ubuntu... hadn't though... you just logout of gnome and say hibernate06:59
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nicodein_hi, does anyone running ubuntu-amd64 have problems with ugly fonts (in xmms menus and in vlc for example) ?06:59
StarKruzrok, so the system DOES see the hardware.06:59
bash0thats cool... thought maybe i had to put swsusp2 into ubuntu somehow but 1 is enough.. so cool06:59
StarKruzrI dunno, dude.  it sounds like maybe you have a different IR controller than you think you do.07:00
mwenicodein_: the fonts in those apps are ugly in any linux version07:00
ManifoldI'm looking for the GNOME Menu, BirdyKiller07:00
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nicodein_mwe : I meant uglier ;)07:00
AstralJavaStarKruzr: Right, so which command might give me more info on detecting the hardware?07:00
mwenicodein_: you can limit the pain with "switch" though, to choose a different gtk1 theme07:00
mwenicodein_: and font. it wont let you use ttf fonts though07:00
BirdyKillerManifold, sorry, I'm just a newbie :)  I dunno07:01
Manifold:/07:01
ManifoldOh well.07:01
BirdyKillerI'm sure one of these guys does...07:01
gnomefreaklocate gnome menu might give you a path07:01
marc__Can someone point me toward a link that discusses the major diff between Ubuntu and mandriva.  I am a mandriva user and am looking to switch distros.07:01
trappistnicodein_: one of the first things I do with a new install of any distro is follow the font deuglification howto07:01
gnomefreaki have all kinds of crap going on over here or i would try07:01
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StarKruzrAstralJava: hell if I know.  that you're going to have to look through the repos for - I don't know of anything that's installed by default that lets you poke around in your hardware like that.07:02
bash0okay enough gushing07:02
mwenicodein_: however I keep hearing about multimedia problems like stuff not working or only working half in ubuntu 64bit. I hear the recommendation is to use the 32 bit version for now07:02
bash0see yas!!!07:02
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AstralJavaStarKruzr: Okay, thanks for your help! Muchly appreciated!07:02
StarKruzrwish I could help more :/07:02
trappistmarc__: I used to be a mandriva user.  they're similar in that they try to make everything 'just work' and they're both primarily desktop distros.  I think ubuntu does a better job, and it's community-driven rather than corporate.07:02
StarKruzraw07:03
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StarKruzrMandriva's not so bad!07:03
gnomefreakmarc, the first thing you will notice is the package manager is not the same and either are the packages you can use :)07:03
nicodein_mwe : so my problems come from the fact it's the amd64 version ?07:03
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AstralJavaStarKruzr: Well you confirmed my guesses on that I've done right thus far.07:03
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venti[b0p] hi07:03
StarKruzrI think you have, yeah.07:03
mwenicodein_: I don't know about your font problem07:03
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gnomefreaki lied first thing you will notice is ubuntu doesnt cost a dime :))07:03
StarKruzrdoes anyone know if there is a way to start the Ubuntu installer from the command line of an existing Linux system?07:04
mwenicodein_: you can't get flash or the java plugin to work in 64 bit ubuntu either07:04
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BirdyKillerany idea what to do when install/remove won't work, dpkg --purge won't work...07:04
marc__How long does it take for the cd to come in the mail, I ordered them today?07:04
nicodein_mwe : yes I figured out that07:04
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nicodein_but it seems I'm lacking some fonts07:04
trappistBirdyKiller: dpkg -L the package and remove its files07:04
gnomefreak6-8 weeks give or take07:04
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mwenicodein_: I can't find all the codecs you need for 64bit either07:04
venti[b0p] I've got a weird problem with Ubuntu-Linux and wake-on-lan. Every time I shutdown my system with ubuntu, i cannot wake it up again with wake-on-lan.07:04
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bluefoxicyhttp://thunar.xfce.org/screenshots.xhtml  XFCE gets Nautilus :P07:05
mwenicodein_: maybe. I think you can use "switch" like I mentioned to choose a different font07:05
BirdyKillertrappist, thank you!07:05
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ventiHow do I make wake-on-lan work together with Ubuntu?07:06
nicodein_mwe : ok I'm gonna try it, and if not successful I'll switch to the 32bits version of ubuntu07:06
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nicodein_mwe : by the way, is that normal there's so few package updates on ubuntu64 ?07:06
deltronnot enough compiled for it? :P07:06
ManifoldArgh. Where is the GNOME menu file stored? :/07:06
mwenicodein_: I think you be better off with the 32bit version for now. btw switch is in the pacage "gtk-theme-switch"07:06
trappistventi: I don't use wol but I have to assume powered-off means powered-off whether ubuntu did it or something else07:06
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StarKruzris it possible to apt-get upgrade from Dapper to Breezy?07:07
trappistStarKruzr: that would be a downgrade07:07
StarKruzror will that completely destroy everything and leave my system a hulking wreck?07:07
mwenicodein_: I think there are less, yes. however enable universe and multiverse07:07
StarKruzryes, but there is no apt-get downgrade, is there?07:07
trappistnope07:07
nicodein_mwe : it's already done07:07
marc__trappist: in comparison to mandriva, what is the range of installable software, I mean is there an equiv PLF type repo?07:07
StarKruzrso, should it work?07:07
gnomefreakstark-johan, it would be safer to fresh install breezy this way no broken packages stay around07:07
nicodein_I think I'll switch back to the 32bits07:07
nicodein_thanks for your help :)07:08
mwenicodein_: the 64bit version doesn't seem ready for desktops07:08
ventitrappist: It does work if press the ATX-power button while being within GRUB and when the PC is turned off by Windows XP.07:08
trappistmarc__: yes, I don't know of a single thing you mandriva has packaged that ubuntu doesn't, and the 'restricted' repositories are even easier to setup and use in ubuntu.07:08
gnomefreakubotu tell marc__ about sources07:08
BirdyKillermwe, I couldn't agree more07:08
StarKruzrgnomefreak: I can't.  I have no removable media on this system and apparently there is no way to install Linux from Linux without setting up a PXE boot system.07:08
mweBirdyKiller: it's probably fine for a server only machine07:08
ventibtw, i have Ubuntu 5.10 (installed yesterday and update using apt).07:09
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gnomefreakstark-johan, isnt there a net install?07:09
StarKruzrwhat I want to do is start the installer from the Linux command line.07:09
gnomefreakmount iso image and go :)07:09
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StarKruzr... mount... iso image...?07:10
trappistventi: maybe gnome's shutdown menu item calls halt -i (I don't use gnome, but that could cause an issue, I'd think)07:10
StarKruzryou can do that?07:10
BirdyKillermwe, yeah, but pointless unless the server needs >4GB RAM...07:10
gnomefreak!install07:10
ubotumethinks install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation07:10
StarKruzrI'm already there.07:10
StarKruzrit doesn't say anything about that.07:10
gnomefreakread the net install on that site07:10
olicatany ideas how i can ssh onto a network on a different subnet?07:10
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StarKruzrnet install on that site is all about PXE booting and stuff.07:10
trappistStarKruzr: yes, you can install from an iso on the hard drive07:10
nics__olicat: you need to be able to route to it07:11
nics__can you ping the remote ip?07:11
ventitrappist: halt -i ? what does this mean, that when i log on to the console and enter just "halt" it is something different than using the gnome button???07:11
olicatnics__, how do you do that?07:11
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StarKruzrtrappist: that would be awesome.  can you tell me where to find info on that?07:11
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trappistventi: again, I don't use gnome and I don't know what the button does, but the halt man page has a few details07:11
nics__olicat: try traceroute <ip number> , is this on a work network?07:12
ventitrappist: thx07:12
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mweBirdyKiller: maybe. There ought to be a warning a the download site about it I think07:12
mihai_I have a curiosity. If I install kubuntu from synaptic how will I switch between kde and gnome?07:12
trappistStarKruzr: I dunno, I just did an install last night and shortly after choosing 'expert' it gave me the option to find an iso on the hard drive to use as the install medium07:12
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olicatnics__, on a work network yeah07:12
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StarKruzrbut dude07:12
StarKruzryou have to *start the installer* first.07:12
trappistmihai_: chose at the gdm/kdm login screen07:12
StarKruzrwhere would I get the installer by itself?07:12
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trappistStarKruzr: oh yeah, good point :)07:12
nics__olicat: is the other server on the work network as well?07:12
olicatnics__, yeah i believe so07:13
nics__gedit RHEL.xml07:13
mihai_trappist, so by default I have the choice to choose at login?07:13
nics__bugga wrong window07:13
StarKruzrexpert mode is all well and good if I actually have an installer to use07:13
trappistmihai_: yes07:13
mihai_trappist, thanks a lot07:13
_nullAnyone knows how I can match a udev rule to execute a program when the device is removed?07:13
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nics__olicat: well in theory your internal routers should already have the details set and I guess you have a default gateway set?07:13
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cisoxI am tring to create a ubuntu/debian repository and I am getting this error: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/_export_repository_dists_stable_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)07:16
gnomefreak!mountiso07:16
ubotuTo mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint07:16
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mIRC`w2xubuntu ita?07:17
trappist!it07:17
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:17
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mwegnomefreak: do you know if it will work with a relative path like mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/mntpoint?07:18
trappistmwe: yes07:18
gnomefreakmwe, ive never done it so no i dont know but all i remember was you could do it07:18
mweWhat's the easiest way to make apt leave my menu.lst alone?07:19
mIRC`w2xaceto07:19
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trappistmwe: don't use it to install kernels07:19
gnomefreaktrappist, how else would you upgrade kernel without apt other than compiling?07:20
trappistgnomefreak: I dunno another way.  it wasn't advice, just the correct answer to his question :)07:20
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gnomefreak:) ok just making sure i wasnt going nuts07:21
mweI think you can disable the update-grub thing07:21
mwemaybe I'll just dpkg-divert it07:21
gnomefreakmwe, i might be wrong on this but if the apt doesnt run update-grub than it wont allow you to boot to the new kernel07:22
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verthow should apt prevent this?07:23
mwegnomefreak: I'll take care of updated menu.lst myself. I run my custom kernel anyway, but I want to examine the ubuntu default one07:23
BirdyKillerTHAT'S IT!!! IT STILL DOESN'T WORK!07:23
gnomefreakmwe, ahhhhh07:23
BirdyKillerreloading the damned OS07:23
BirdyKillergrumble grumble07:23
gnomefreaklol BirdyKiller07:23
trappistgnomefreak: with lilo that's true, but grub is a lot more flexible07:23
gnomefreaktrappist, true07:23
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BirdyKillerI should download the livecd and see if THAT works07:23
tswwhere does sudo su <user> get its environment, I would like to have ls --color=auto alias even after sudoing to another user07:24
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_nullHow would I make hotplug executing a script each time a device is added?07:24
trappisttsw: put it in /etc/bash.bashrc07:24
gnomefreakBirdyKiller, all this to get nvidia to work?07:24
tswtrappist: ls has colors If I dont use sudo07:24
BirdyKillergnomefreak, yes.  I prefer to have a GUI in my 2+ ghz computers...07:24
BirdyKillerand I'm not replacing my brand new video card.07:25
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trappisttsw: I'm not sure where that alias is, but if it's in /etc/bash.bashrc it should apply globally07:25
tswtrappist: ok, thanks07:25
gnomefreakBirdyKiller, cant you just run it as the wiki says instead of compiling kernel?07:25
zoexiihello, I have plans to upgrade my processor (and motherboard) from Intel P3 to AMD Athlon...  I've been using ubuntu for awhile and I have it more or less configured to my liking.  Will my install boot and work as is after I change chips?  will I have to reinstall?07:25
BirdyKillergnomefreak, I tried that07:25
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trappistzoexii: you might need to reconfigure a few pieces of hardware, but all the drivers will be there.  you should be fine.07:26
gnomefreakzoexii, it should work amd64 supports 3207:26
trappistgnomefreak: eh?07:26
gnomefreaksorry to hear that BirdyKiller07:26
zoexiignomefreak, I think the chip is 32bit, Athlon XP something 2.4ghz?07:26
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gnomefreaktrappist, well it does :(07:26
trappistzoexii: that's 32 bit07:26
trappistgnomefreak: he's not installing amd6407:26
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gnomefreakah07:26
gnomefreakmiss read it sorry07:27
BirdyKillergnomefreak, it's alright.  this is going to work.  I know it.  :-/07:27
rexbroncan someone help me with setting permissions on a windows partition?07:27
zoexiiright on, thanks all.07:27
gnomefreakBirdyKiller, i said that about dapper on my main pc :(07:27
mwezoexii: I'd install a 386 kernel first to make sure it boots with the new cpu07:27
BirdyKillerI don't know why ubuntu works BEAUTIFULLY on my DELL LAPTOP "DESIGNED FOR WINDOWS XP" but not on my new computer that I carefully selected the parts for...07:28
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teroedniBirdykiller:Whats part is that07:28
teroedniBirdkiller:Via?07:28
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BirdyKilleri just figured nvidia would have this whole driver thing down by now07:28
Dex-Freudiii received ubuntu 5.10 and i have on my pc ubuntu 5.04... how can I upgrade the system?07:29
tkup_null, you could start by reading 'man hotplug' or jump right into it by looking at /etc/hotplug/07:29
teroedniBirdykiller stats?07:29
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rexbroncould someone help me set permissions for my windows partition?07:29
_nulltkup, i did this already but it seems that i need a usermap file first, right?07:29
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teroedniBirdykiller:You dont happen to have a via motherboard do you?07:29
Dex-FreudiiBirdyKiller, which dell do you have?07:29
BirdyKillerteroedni, no...07:30
BirdyKillerDex-Freudii inspiron 850007:30
jdierI am setting up my default video player for an application and I want to browse to TOTEM.  Where do I browse to find the application?07:30
Dex-Freudiidoes ubuntu recognizes the modem??07:30
gnomefreakubotu tell Dex-Freudii about ugrade07:30
Dex-Freudiithanx gnomefreak07:30
gnomefreakyw07:30
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teroednibirdy killer:Whats not working then?07:31
gnomefreakmodemdoesnt have much to do with the pc itself :(07:31
rexbroncould someone help me set permissions for my windows partition?07:31
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BirdyKillerteroedni, asus a8n32-sli motherboard w/ couple gigs of corsair, 4 hard drives in raid5 and a raptor for other bootable, geforce 7800GT07:31
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gnomefreakubotu tell rexbron about someone07:31
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tkup_null, what kind of driver/hardware do you have?07:31
BirdyKillerteroedni, video drivers...  I'm still working on it07:31
_nulltkup, i'd like to have a script executed when i plug in my usbstick07:31
teroedniBirdykiller:O yikes07:32
teroednibirdykiller:I envy you^__^07:32
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jendaI need help with segfaulting apps - many of them, and reinstalling the base system didn't help07:32
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BirdyKillerteroedni, doesn't do me much good when I can't get past the command line :(07:33
Chousukejenda: You may have broken memory07:33
vertBirdyKiller: how much did that little thing cost?07:33
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jendaChousuke: hmm... how would I know that?07:33
ventiOk, my wake on LAN works now.07:33
BirdyKillervert, i dunno.. I pieced it together over a few months07:33
BirdyKillervert, bit over a grand...07:33
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Chousukejenda: You need to run memtest07:33
Chousukejenda: it is available from apt07:34
Ribsmemtest is installed by default07:34
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deltronmemtest should be in your bootup sequence07:34
Ribsjust press escape when prompted to by grub (3 second countdown), and select memtest07:34
deltronin grub07:34
BirdyKillerand a brand new, CLEAN install from ubuntu cd...............07:34
mweChousuke: isn't in the default grub menu?07:34
seicherlbobhi there! what the hack are "magic files"?07:34
mweChousuke: I mean isn't it in the menu07:34
Chousukemwe: not if you haven't installed it.07:35
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Chousukemwe: I didn't know it was in the default install :)07:35
Plazmaanyone have any luck getting UT2004 to work with the ATI drivers?07:35
yggdrasilhas anone fixed this erro regarding network printint ?07:35
yggdrasil lpadmin: add-printer (set model) failed: client-error-not-found07:35
mweChousuke: well I didn't install it manually and I got it in the grub menu :|07:35
seicherlbobPlazma: took me a while to even install ati-drivers. havent tried gaming yet07:35
jendaChousuke: no installation candidate...07:35
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Plazmaseicherlbob, did you use the package from ati or is it in apt?07:36
Chousukejenda: it seems it should be in the grub meni.07:36
Chousukemenu*07:36
seicherlbobcan anybody tell me, what magic files are?07:36
deltron!xubuntu07:36
ubotumethinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu07:36
jendaChousuke: ah, got it...07:36
seicherlbobi used the guide from the wiki.07:36
tkup_null, you can put a reference to your script in /etc/hotplug/usb.agent07:36
Chousukejenda: you need to reboot to start it.07:36
_nulltkup, ok07:36
seicherlbobworked fine (at least the ati-center is running and OpenGL)07:36
jendaOK07:36
jendabrb07:36
Chousukejenda: run it for a few passes07:36
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Chousukejenda: it'll take a long time07:36
jendaOK07:37
gnomefreakis it safe to install ati drivers before adding the vc than add vc and plug in reboot all will work?07:37
seicherlbobhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI07:37
seicherlbobPlazma: look at this link07:37
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Plazmayea im looking at it.. thanks07:37
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.07:37
seicherlbobPlazma: noprob07:38
seicherlbobgnomefreak: you know what magic files are?07:38
Plazmaprob  why wine wasnt working right either with steam07:38
gnomefreaknope07:38
gnomefreak!magicfiles07:38
ubotugnomefreak: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:38
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Plazma!beer07:38
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seicherlboblol07:38
Plazmathats what im talking about07:38
seicherlbobok, gotta go. cu around!07:39
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EnsignRedshirtA bit off-topic, but a quickie: Is there a free ogg vorbis player for windows?  (I've created some ogg files on my ubuntu box, but I'd like to let my uninformed windows-using friend know how to play them.)07:39
blue-frogzinf07:39
Dr_Williswinamp can play them with the right plug in i belive07:40
delireEnsignRedshirt AFAIK winamp will play them07:40
PlazmaEnsignRedshirt, winamp, VLC, etc07:40
mweEnsignRedshirt: I believe there is but I forgot the name07:40
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Terminushello. does anybody know what the URL for the list of mirrors for apt-get is? the page that ubotu mentions doesn't exist anymore and i'm having problems with my existing mirror. thanks.07:40
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robotgeekubotu: tell Terminus about easysource07:40
Terminusrobotgeek, thanks. :)07:41
mwe!mirrors07:41
ubotuI guess mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive07:41
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EnsignRedshirtblue-frog, Dr_Willis, delire, Plazma, mwe: Thanks!07:41
alainlucasmy display manager is kdm, how to replace it by gdm ?07:41
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deltronsudo apt-get install gdm07:41
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mwealainlucas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm07:42
mwealainlucas: after installing gdm07:42
alainlucasmwe: thanks07:42
Terminusmwe, aha! thanks. that's the page i was looking for! :)07:42
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Terminusi just forgot what the terminology for ubuntu is. hehe07:42
alainlucasmwe is a genious07:43
robotgeek07:43
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robotgeeksorry, was cleaning my keyboard07:43
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zblachhey, quick bit of advice I need. i've a whole bunch of MP3's i'd like to zip together (for continuous sound). is there a simple way of doing this? or better yet, a better solution?07:43
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slushpupiezblach: `cat *.mp3 > big.mp3` will work for some players07:44
delirezblach install 'zip' and 'zip files.zip /path/to/mp3s/07:44
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blue-frogzblach, audacity07:44
delirezblach oh, haha i get you07:45
zblachslushpupie, delire, blue-frog, sorry. its for use on an ipod07:45
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delirecat is best yes..07:45
blue-frogzblach, SO?07:45
blue-frogzblach, so?07:45
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slushpupiezblach: you could try it07:46
zblachcan i just cat a whole bunch of mp3's together like that?07:46
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visik7hi07:46
madgik85Hello I was just wondering, how do I find out what terminal I am using?07:46
visik7is ubuntu compiled for 686 or 486 ?07:46
delirezblach yes that will work. btw it isn't 'zipping' ;)07:46
slushpupiezblach: mp3 is a stream, the only weird part is the ID3 tags07:46
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deliremadgik85 echo %TERM07:46
deliremadgik85 echo $TERM07:46
delireoops07:46
slushpupiezblach: if you have different bitrates and strange tags on your files, some players will do weird things, but technically it should be possible07:46
jvlhi, can someone give me  any pointers on how to configure an external dvd-writer?07:47
NarrfHi all - Have a problem with Nautilus, it won't close and is using 100% processor - anyone any ideas?07:47
madgik85delire, thank you07:47
delirejvl: you shouldn't need to.. just plug it in and see if you can select it with your given burning software07:47
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delirejvl: tail -f /var/log/syslog for errors on connect to see if it is properly picked up.07:47
delirejvl: you may need to use sudo to watch that file..07:48
delireNarrf hmm odd. start up a terminal and 'sudo pkill nautilus'07:48
jvldelire: thx will check that but going to my Places -> Computer it doesnt show07:49
delirejvl: it should be picked up as a scsi device..07:49
visik7is ubuntu binaries compiled for 486 ?07:49
Narrfdelire: have tried an xkill and a sudo kill pid - nautius just respawns and restarts!07:49
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delirejvl: lsmod | grep scsi07:50
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delireves: how did you go ves?07:50
vesdelire: oh hi there, haha complete reinstall :)07:50
vesworking good, though07:50
delireNarrf very odd. you should file a bug on that.07:50
jvldelire: thx will do07:50
delireves didn't take you long did it?07:50
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Pygifreaky: ping07:50
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Narrfok I will do - just done an pkill and it respawns still!07:50
vesdelire: nah, not at all this 10meg connection helped a bit with the dist-upgrade :)07:50
delirejvl: that is to find if you have the modules (drivers) to support the device loaded.07:51
delireves: hehe cool07:51
vesdelire: I'm very tired from running about though :)07:51
delireNarrf save and close any important documents and CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X07:51
delireves: get online with that machine eh?07:51
BirdyKiller!kernel07:51
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JaymacAm I supposed to see grawert.net when I submit hardware data?07:52
Narrfhave done a total shutdown and restart (had to shutdown with sudo shutdown -h "now" from another vterm)07:52
ManifoldGuys, how do you pin a terminal to the desktop?07:52
jvldelire: running lsmod | grep scsi gives me this: scsi_mod              119936  3 sg,sr_mod,usb_storage07:52
delireves: better still install openssh-server and ssh from the machine you're on now.07:52
vesdelire: yeah, thing was it was hooked up to the network but due to my login issues I couldn't ssh or anything :)07:52
delirejvl: ok good. what does syslog say? 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog'07:52
vesdelire: cheers, I'm just sorting out all my packages now, 'gvim - command not found' argh :)07:52
sorush21how do I convert mp3's into wave files for writing on cd's07:52
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yggdrasilis there a printer administration tool in ubunut ?07:52
Bjelleklangis there a quick command to see kernel version info?07:53
deliresorush21 use audacity, or see if your burning software supports conversion.07:53
delireBjelleklang uname -a07:53
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Bjelleklangthanks07:53
delirenp07:53
zblachslushpupie, thanks. it seems to be working07:53
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delireyggdrasil Administration-->Printing from memory07:54
jvldelire: any place where I can paste these lines?07:54
vesWould anybody happen to know the shared libraries for firefox/thunderbird? I'm not using the ubuntu version.. 1.5 from a directory07:54
delirejvl: http://pastebin.com07:54
jvldelire: although it seems everything is correct...07:54
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delireves: ldd /path/to/binary07:54
zblachnow, ultimatebonus would be if the file could display different information at different times07:54
robreedHi, in the live CD there is a problem with the X Graphical User Interface07:54
ManifoldGuys, how do you pin a terminal to the desktop?07:54
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vesdelire: Hmm, I've never had to do that before is there something automatic that should do it?07:55
jvldelire: http://pastebin.com/49375407:55
yggdrasildelire cool im not using gnome ill jump into it now07:55
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delireves: what are you trying to do?07:55
midnighthy everyone07:55
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robreedhow do I reconfigure the X graphical user interface in the LiveCD?07:56
vesdelire: I've got the latest version of firefox installed but trying to run it gives me library errors: "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"07:56
delirejvl: it all looks fine. why not put a CD in and see if Ubuntu picks it up?07:56
vesI'm not using 1.0.7 or whatever ubuntu has stuck with07:56
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jvldelire: here goes :)07:57
delireves: right.. this is an important library. you may need to create a symlink. it's also possible that firefox wants a different version of libstdc++. though i'd be surprised.07:57
delirejvl: ;)07:57
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jvldelire: no way! it worked!!!07:57
ManifoldGuys, how do you pin a terminal to the desktop?07:57
delireves: ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.*07:57
Jaymacves... http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/07:57
jvldelire: and i was mentalizing myself to editing files, installing stuff...07:57
delirejvl: hehe, ubuntu is good at this stuff. if it was windows you'd have to install a driver ;)07:57
delirejvl: ubuntu ships with a fine kernel.07:58
vesdelire: ah I see, they're not all linked07:58
vesJaymac: thanks07:58
jvldelire: so, since this seems to be working so well, now just putting a blank dvd and selecting some stuff to burn will just work (tm) right?07:58
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delireves: do you have a libstdc++.so.5?07:58
jtdhi guys07:58
jtdis there a kubuntu netboot image?07:58
delirejvl: it should yep07:58
vesdelire: I just installed that package via apt, working great now :)07:59
jvldelire: omg....easy stuff on linux!!07:59
vesdelire: only 6 was installed by default07:59
delirejvl: if you have an internal burner also, you will need to select the right burner.07:59
delirejvl: hehe things are changing in the linux desktop department ;)07:59
jvldelire: nah just the external one07:59
jvldelire: sure hope so07:59
delirejvl: easy peasy then07:59
delireves: a much cleaner solution ;)07:59
vesdelire: Thanks again, have a nice night! :)08:00
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delireves: u too ves08:00
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jvldelire: there are certaing things imho that still need to change on linux so more windows users can be attracted to it08:00
jvldelire: time to make some barbecue ;)08:00
delirejvl: i agree..08:01
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delirejvl: too cold here for barbecues. have fun ;)08:01
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jendaBirdyKiller damn! Rebooted and guess what... CLI :)08:02
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BirdyKillerat least it's not just me :)08:02
BirdyKilleri just tried again08:03
BirdyKillerfor the 3rd time08:03
BirdyKillerlast try before i recompile the kernel myself08:03
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delirejenda: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:03
BirdyKillerand by that I mean "tomorrow"08:03
BirdyKillerfuck. yup.08:03
BirdyKillersleepy time08:03
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_nullHow can I check if the system has already completed booting in a script?08:03
delirejenda: even better, let's look for errors: 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE'08:03
jendaI copied the error message, can someone please tell me what this means: "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found08:04
delirejenda that shouldn't be the problem. that's common.08:04
jtdis it fairly simple to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?  do you just sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?08:04
Morrowyncan i upgrade myt fbsd 5.4 box to 6.0 through, cvsup, build world ?08:04
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delirejenda i have that and am in X currently. look further down for problems.08:04
marius_hi i just installed ubuntu and did not get prompted to type in a root password what is the standard root password for ubuntu ?08:04
Jaymacjtd you dont need to remove ubuntu08:04
Jaymacjust install kubuntu-desktop08:04
jtdJaymac: and that's it?  okay, thanks.08:05
Jaymacthen you can remove ubuntu afterwards if you want08:05
Morrowynoops wrong window :P08:05
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Jaymacjtd.. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is all you need.. also /j #kubuntu is a good idea too :)08:05
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zoexiimarius_, it is the password for your main user08:05
jtdsomeone told me the two couldn't coexist.08:05
marius_oh :D08:05
Jaymacjtd.. BS :)08:05
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brainiac_ghostkde vs gnome (aka kubuntu vs ubuntu)08:05
zoexiimarius_, but I don't think you can log in as root,08:05
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jendadelire: no EEs :(08:05
marius_no08:05
vbgunzcan someone tell me what is wrong with the search tool? It really doesn't search and find anything... To be honest it is a waste of pixels on screen... What is it good for?08:05
marius_i cant :(08:05
JaymacI installed kubuntu-desktop and am running it with kde 3.5, over a base installation of ubuntu08:05
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Jaymaczoexii you can08:06
delirejenda: hmm.. perhaps GDM isn't starting?08:06
FliesLikeABrickJaymac,  thats exactly what i'm on right now08:06
Jaymacwith some tweaking08:06
jendaI'll try08:06
zoexiiJaymac, really?08:06
delirejenda: startx08:06
Jaymacbut you have no need to08:06
Jaymacever08:06
Jaymac:)08:06
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nics__marius: by default you are supposed to use sudo, root isn't enabled at install08:06
delirejenda have you ever had X running on that machine and are you sure there are no errors in the log?08:07
sorush21what program can I use for multiple conversion of mp3 into wav files?08:07
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deliresorush21 try 'sox', or find some frontend.08:08
brainiac_ghostright08:09
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Bjelleklangisn't 'make' supposed to work without any problems after ubuntu has installed?08:09
FliesLikeABrickonly if you have gcc installed08:09
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Bjelleklangah08:09
Pygipeople, can I ask you for a favor? :)08:10
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Pygiplease go to fama.sf.net and comment on first post, thank you :)08:10
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Bjelleklanggcc is installed, but still won't work08:11
Jaymacyou got build-essential?08:11
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sorush21anyother programs?08:12
deliresorush21 come to think of it, with sox you could use a script like 'for i in $(ls /path/to/mp3s/); do sox $i $i.wav; done' make sure you're filenames don't have spaces though ;)08:12
trappistBjelleklang: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:12
UncleDAnyone here ever mirrored a smaller harddrive to a larger one? I have breezy on a 40gb machine and I want to copy the system to a 300gb hd that currently has breezy on it also.08:13
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charwoodI'm having problems enabling DMA on my laptop.  When I use the stock kernel 2.6.12, it is on, but on my custom compiled one or on a newer 2.6.14/15 it does not work.08:13
jendadelire ummm... that kinda crashed me :)08:13
delirejenda what did?08:13
jendastartx08:13
jendahad to reboot08:13
trappistcharwood: you probably failed to include the drivers for your ide controller08:13
jendaand am now in recovery mode08:13
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charwoodWhen I type hdparm -d1 /dev/hda - I get operation failed.08:13
Bjelleklangthanks trappist!08:14
Chousukejenda: You have broken hardware.08:14
Chousukejenda: did you get memtest running?08:14
delirejenda you need to read the log to find out why it's crashing. it's not normal. have you ever had X running on that machine. startx again and then read the log.08:14
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jendaCould this be caused by installing the 686 kernel?08:14
delirecharwood hmm, maybe your disk doesn't support DMA?08:14
charwoodMy customer compiled kernel has DMA enabled for every signal possible chipset (just in case...  I've been working on this for a while)08:14
Chousukejenda: Doubtful..08:14
jendaChousuke: hmm... don't think so. I think my segfault problems are, in fact caused by GL08:14
delirecharwood what does 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda' give you?08:15
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charwoodsetting using_dma to 1 (on)08:15
charwood HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted08:15
charwood using_dma    =  0 (off)08:15
trappistcharwood: what chipset do you have (lspci)?08:15
Chousukejenda: are only X programs segfaulting?08:15
jendaAnd this only started after I installed the new nvidia.08:15
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Chousukejenda: hmm.08:15
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delirecharwood i would say you need to load support for your hard disk controller.08:15
cisoxHello, I am setting up a debian repository/creating source packages. I have everything setup and when I go to try to use the repository using apt-get source <package> I get an error about failing to link my repository's package to the package I am trying to get. How I go about fixing this?08:15
charwooddelire: When the computer boots it says that dma is not set, assuming idebus=33 or whatever.08:15
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jendaChousuke well now I can't start X - problem no. 1 :), but yes, and only some (xmms, mplayer, neverball...)08:16
delirecharwood follow trappist's lead. 'lspci > hardware.txt' and post it to pastebin.com08:16
brainiac_ghost64 or 32 bit08:16
delirejenda what did you do to enable you to startx?08:16
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trappistcharwood: since this is obviously a kernel issue, and it works in ubuntu's kernel, you might try asking in a kernel forum.  #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net is pretty good.08:17
jendadelire nothing...08:17
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delirejenda how old is your computer? that sounds very dubious to me. faulty hardware perhaps?08:17
jendaI typed it in, and boom, lots of output, black screen. Panic. Suicide...08:17
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saib0tI did a remake of an awsome loginscreen.... have a look: http://gnomelook.org/content/pre1/33283-1.jpg08:18
donohuehelp wanted:if I have a long list of email addresses in a ooo spreadsheet, how can i paste them into a evolution email To: line?08:18
lee_hey Ng or anyone....just went and installed ubuntu...as before i was running debian....and now my dvd's all play all jumpy .....anyone know how to fix this?08:18
jendadelire... dunno. It's 3.5 years. It worked faultlessly a week ago.08:18
bufferflyevening all08:18
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delirejenda suiciding computers are still a few years away yet ;)08:18
charwoodtrappist: Thanks.  I did post the output of lspci to pastebin.com (charwood)08:18
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delirejenda when did this start happening?08:18
Chousukejenda: and reverting the drivers doesn't help?08:18
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PakHier ben ik08:19
Chousukejenda: or using the free 2d-only drivers?08:19
trappistcharwood: standard procedure is to paste the link to your pastebin post here08:19
delirehehe08:19
lee_hey Ng or anyone....just went and installed ubuntu...as before i was running debian....and now my dvd's all play all jumpy .....anyone know how to fix this?08:19
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jendadelire: I reinstalled since then, leaving only my /home.08:19
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jendaI'll try...08:19
delirejenda what graphics card?08:19
trappistlee_: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/<device>08:19
jendaGeforce 208:19
jendammx08:19
lee_cheers mate ll give it ago08:19
delirejendaL nvidia's drivers?08:19
jendayes08:19
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jendaInstalled through the installer, because it never works otherwise.08:20
charwoodMY pastebin linke: http://pastebin.com/49379208:20
blueandwhiteg3Hey, a quick/stupid gnome question: I have been using gnome, now it seems to be minimizing windows out of sight! That means I cannot see my minimized windows, and when I press minimize, it seems to minimize to the right of the screen, like it's going offscreen...08:20
lee_trappist, -dl didnt work just gave usuage info again08:20
blueandwhiteg3How can I fix that?08:20
lee_oh is it d1 ?08:20
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delirejenda: you could try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'vesa' in the place of 'nvidia' or 'nv' and see if you get more stability. you will have no 3D accelleration however.08:20
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jendaI'll try reinstalling with the 386 kernel only...08:21
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nics__jenda: if you want me to try your xorg.conf with my working nvidia setup then mail it to me08:21
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trappistlee_: -d1 not -dl08:21
delirelee_ he didn't mean typing "<device>" ;) for instance 'hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda' for my configuration.08:21
jendadelire: thanks, I'll pass :), I know about that, of course...08:21
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lee_trappist, i just did  that and the graphics have no gone totally screwed08:21
delirejenda: good luck then..08:21
trappistcharwood: never seen an ati ide controller.  I dunno what driver makes that work, but maybe they do in #kernelnewbies08:21
jendanics__ thanks, but I'll try reinstalling and getting into X first :)08:21
lee_yeah i used /dev/dvd08:21
lee_@ delire08:21
jendalater08:22
delireciao08:22
nics__jenda: no probs, means I can go eat my tea :-)08:22
trappistlee_: try restarting your player08:22
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charwoodtrappist: So far they're pretty silent there.  (-808:22
charwoodI'll see what google knows.08:22
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lee_trappist, it wasnt running anyway let me try on my other lappy08:22
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blueandwhiteg3Anybody help on this issue with gnome now showing minimized windows? It's driving me kinda crazy... like not being able to see my minimized applications! I'm a gnome newbie...08:23
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lee_ah its working now trappist  on one laptop! nice one bro ill try it on mine now08:23
slibshello08:23
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slibshow should i remove wlan driver that ubuntu has in default for my card?08:24
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slibsit doesn't work and i want manually replace it08:24
blueandwhiteg3slibs: try an "sudo apt-get remove <driverpackage>"08:24
blueandwhiteg3if you're not sure the package name, use "apt-cache search <keywords>"08:25
slibsblueandwhiteg3: righty, i'll try that first08:25
BirdyKillerholy fucking crikey shit08:25
BirdyKillerit actually works now08:25
BirdyKillerAFTER a reboot08:25
Terminusgrrr... keychain broke during the last update. :(08:25
trappistcharwood: sudo modprobe atiixp  <-- try that08:25
vbgunzhow in the world do I recursively delete a certain extension across one parent directory? rm -fr ./000_/*.msf only deletes .msf files in the very first directory... it doesn't keep going :(08:26
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lee_cheers trae08:26
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lee_cheers trappist08:26
slibsblueandwhiteg3: i checked out with synaptic and i only found acx100-firmware, do you think it could be only that firmware package or something else?08:26
trappistvbgunz: find /path -name '*.msf' -exec rf -f {} \;08:26
FliesLikeABrickvbgunz, rm -rf *.msf ?08:26
trappistvbgunz: s/rf/rm/08:27
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blueandwhiteg3slibs: I don't really know. You could try removing it... it can't hurt. (Unless when you click remove apt-get wants to remove tons of other apps.)08:27
deliretrappist i was wondering what you were upto ;)08:27
yaniswhy there is no mplayer in apt-get???08:27
trappistyanis: it's mplayer-{platform}08:27
slibsactually there is08:27
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blueandwhiteg3yanis: it depends on which trees you're in... you need to open them up a bit more.08:28
vbgunzthanks fellas08:28
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trappistyanis: like, mplayer-58608:28
delireyanis: it has patented code. you'll need to enable multiverse08:28
yanisblueandwhiteg3: I have uncomment all the sources08:28
BirdyKillerhehe doh08:28
slibsbut i think it works better if you compile it yourself08:28
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blueandwhiteg3yais: you seen, mplayer isn't really free or whatever crap like that08:28
delireIIRC08:28
BirdyKillerapparently one of m y keyboard keys is mapped to some instant-kill thing08:28
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blueandwhiteg3yanis: It's more than just uncommenting. You have to *add* the multiverse tree.08:28
trappistBirdyKiller: what does it instantly kill?08:28
slibsBirdyKiller: like shutdown button?08:28
delireBirdyKiller funny. you're not typing CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE by any chance ;) ?08:28
blueandwhiteg3but, what do I know, I can't even get gnome to show me my minimized windows...08:29
yanisblueandwhiteg3: ah ok,what have to add?08:29
BirdyKillerlol no it was just the fastest shutdown I've ever seen08:29
trappistBirdyKiller: laptop?08:29
zblachspeaking of ctrl+alt+bksp, how can I enable other buttons on my keyboard?08:29
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CodenameKT!goodmorning08:29
ubotuGooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)08:29
BirdyKillerdesktop, but i got one of those microsoft wireless executive office professional super keyboards hooked up to it right now08:29
charwoodtrappist: Sorry, still getting the same error. I think that the atiixp is for sound on the board.08:30
trappistBirdyKiller: ah, I use the supercoder2000 myself.  watercooled, just two keys, 1 and 008:30
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BirdyKillernow that's hardcore08:31
zblachtrappist, thats pretty leet08:31
zblachreminds me of this one guy I once knew08:31
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zblachwatched him hack his neighbours computer08:31
charwoodtrappist: If I reboot into my 2.6.12, it works.  What config file/startup stuff would load the module under one kernel but not another?08:31
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SuperLagAny of you guys successfully set up LDAP authentication on your *ubuntu installs?08:31
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zblachonly things he used were a teaspoon, a glass of salt water and an old transistor radio08:31
blueandwhiteg3yanis: the multiverse tree, of course.08:31
slibszblach: what the hell :D08:32
trappistcharwood: it should autoload if you have the hardware.  I wanted to see if you were missing the module... modprobe would have errored out.08:32
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zblachslibs, was the most incredible hack i've ever seen08:32
slibswhat did he do?08:32
charwoodtrappist: Nope.  Modprobe worked fine.08:32
deliretrappist i interface with my computer by squeezing a lettuce. pretty l33t, or so i'm told.08:32
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gnomefreakthere is something really really wrong here i installed ati as it said reconfigured xserver-xorg to fglrx and now i have no X08:32
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charwoodtrappist: But pretty much it has to be some kernel setting if it behaves differently in different startups?08:33
BirdyKillerdid he gargle the water while listening to the radio and using the teaspoon to connect positive and negative terminals ?08:33
gnomefreakits a radeon card so i know it should work08:33
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bungle_hi08:33
CodenameKTgnomefreak: what kind of ati u got?08:33
trappistcharwood: pretty much08:33
gnomefreakradeon ato 700008:33
gnomefreakati08:33
Terminusdoes anybody know why keychain says 'Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.' after i updated? the passphrase window doesn't pop up anymore...08:34
CodenameKTgnomefreak: can u show me an example of the xorg.conf u used?08:34
charwoodtrappist: Well, I appreciate your help.  If you can think of any kernel options that it might be... or maybe I have to compile kernel_modules somehow special?  Google has been silent.08:34
zblachno, he used the teaspoon against the glass to send a signal through his radio and into the neighbours08:34
trappistTerminus: running ssh-agent?08:34
Dreamgliderdoes anyone here use synergy ?08:34
gnomefreakCodenameKT how do i open another term?08:34
Terminustrappist, yep. i grepped ps and it's running.08:34
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trappistTerminus: how are you running keychain?08:35
Terminustrappist, it's in my bashrc.08:35
trappistbut how?08:35
Motoko-chanAnyone want to help figure out a weird hardware issue?08:36
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delireTerminus perhaps best to 'ssh-agent bash; ssh-agent' and then enter passphrase per session no?08:36
Linfanguinwhen i stream a movie its choppy and if the movie have diffrente scenes no matter what scene choose it always start from the beggining when i use mplayer with firefox? how can i fix this problem08:36
agnomefreklol alt+F2 doesnt work :(08:36
Motoko-chanUbuntu isn't picking up my network card, but it shows it is installed in Device Manager and lspci.08:37
delireTerminus sorry 'ssh-agent bash; ssh-add'08:37
Terminustrappist, i pass the add the key to keychain and then source $HOME/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh08:37
Motoko-chan3Com 3c556B Cardbus08:37
CodenameKTgnomefk: honestly i don't know08:37
Terminusdelire, well, since keychain failed to popup the passphrase dialog went i open a terminal, that's how it works now...08:37
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Terminuserrr... s/went/when/08:37
delireright.08:37
trappistTerminus: does ~/.keychain/${HOSTNAME}.sh exist?08:37
Terminustrappist, yes, it does.08:38
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Linfanguinanyway to remove mplayer completely and have totum be my main media player for streams? or wich one do you guys recommend08:38
agnomefrekhmmmmmmmmm this isnt good :(08:38
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Dreamgliderhow do i mount a iso dvd image ?08:38
Terminustrappist, PID for ssh-agent in that file is correct.08:38
trappistTerminus: owned by you and perms 600?08:38
Andrew[CS] anyone know why I cant change my screen resolution or how to open a .deb08:38
agnomefrekbrb gonna try something08:38
Motoko-chanAny idea on my issue?08:38
agnomefrekexit08:39
trappist!tell Andrew[CS]  about fixres08:39
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trappistAndrew[CS] : and, sudo dpkg -i filename.de08:39
trappistb08:39
Terminustrappist, yes to both.08:39
nickrudLinfanguin, you could try the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension to firefox, it allows you to select different player for different streams08:39
Terminustrappist, would `keychain --clear` help?08:39
trappistTerminus: might08:40
Andrew[CS] ummm what08:40
Terminusok... i'll give it a try.08:40
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sorush21guys I can't run a program that I installed using wine..08:40
B_166-ER-X!sources08:40
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:40
Terminustrappist, it's not gonna touch the keys in .ssh right?08:40
B_166-ER-X!easysource08:40
trappistnope08:40
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:40
Terminusthanks.08:40
zblachhow can I enable my keyboard buttons.08:41
relbswhen I open my laptop after putting the screen down, ubuntu prompts for a password.  Is there a way to disable this?08:41
sorush21can I install direct x using wine?08:41
yaniswhat mplayer package to select???386 or 586????whats the difference?08:41
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Terminustrappist, still the same. it can find the existing ssh-agent process but it can't add the keys.08:41
echeeseI mounted my FAT32 fs08:41
echeeseBut I can't write to it08:42
relbsyanis: 586 if you have a pentium or better computer08:42
echeesefrom my user08:42
yanisrelbs: I have pentium M 1.508:42
yanisso 58608:42
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relbsyanis: yes08:42
trappistTerminus: I'm stumped, I use keychain everywhere and I've never had a problem08:42
Andrew[CS] trappist how to open/run .deb?08:42
relbsyanis: 386 will also work, but may be a little slower.08:42
CodenameKTecheese: in the fstab for ur fat32 mount08:42
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Terminustrappist, yeah... never had a problem with it until i updated a while ago...08:42
trappistAndrew[CS] : sudo dpkg -i filename.deb08:43
delireAndrew[CS]  to extract it or install it? the latter 'dpkg -i file.deb'08:43
CodenameKTecheese: put the options user,owner,rw,umask=00008:43
trappistTerminus: lemme update and see if it breaks for me...08:43
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Andrew[CS] or what does08:43
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thegladiator660 in chat is a good number08:43
Terminustrappist, ok... i hope you don't break anything on my account. :)08:43
vb_coderdoes anyone know how to get package xlib6g in synaptic?08:43
Andrew[CS] 'dpkg -i file.deb' mean?08:44
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trappistTerminus: I don't see any relevant packages that would be updated08:44
delireAndrew[CS]  that's a commandline means of installing the file.08:44
Terminustrappist, it's supposed to run `ssh-askpass` right?08:44
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Terminushrmm... i'm gonna go look at my logs.08:44
Andrew[CS] ok, where do i run the command?08:44
trappistTerminus: yeah08:45
delireAndrew[CS]  it's the fastest way of installing a debian package. normally however, it really is best to use the synaptic interface to browse and install packages. what are you trying to install?08:45
Andrew[CS] amsn08:45
echeeseThanks08:45
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CGI460does anyone use webmin with apache2 vhosting?  I can't seem to get webmin to read my vhost configs...08:45
Terminus!paste08:45
ubotuI heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:45
delireAndrew[CS]  why don't you start synaptic to see if it's already available for you to install?08:45
vb_coderopenmotif does not show in synaptic why?08:46
VR^hey all, how do i unmount my ipod?08:46
Andrew[CS] full filename is "amsn_0.95-2.ubuntu.deb"08:46
VR^i right-clicked on it, clicked unmount, and it told me it was unable to unmount it, or something08:46
zblachc'mon. is there no way to use all these fancy buttons and dials on my kb?08:46
CodenameKTechoose: no prob08:46
Andrew[CS] whats synaptic?08:47
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Terminustrappist, here's my log, can't find anything relevant either. :( --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/668508:47
Motoko-chanSynaptic = GUI package installer08:47
delireAndrew[CS]  if you're sure it is for your version of Ubuntu (Breezy most likely) then start a terminal 'Applications--->Accessories--->Terminal and 'sudo dpkg -i amsn_0.95-2.ubuntu.deb'08:47
nickrudvb_coder, you're looking for libmotif308:47
CGI460Andrew[CS] : it's a package manager08:47
delireAndrew[CS]  i however would use the synaptic 'package manager' to assist.08:47
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StarKruzrokay08:47
trappistTerminus: if that's the whole log it doesn't look like your update completed08:47
delireAndrew[CS]  it will ensure that the file is authentically downloaded and cleanly installed.08:48
StarKruzrI installed ubuntu and my network was broken the first two times it tried to get packages to fill out the rest of the install08:48
StarKruzrnow when I restart with the network connected, it DOESN'T TRY TO GET ANYTHING08:48
delireAndrew[CS]  unlike windows, linux package managers like to keep tabs on all the software on the machine. this improves security and ease of maintenance.08:48
gnomefreakhow do i disable the onboard video card in bios if it doesnt have vga or ati or video what else should i look under08:48
StarKruzrhow do I make it finish the install?08:48
Terminustrappist, well, that's the entire log for dpkg. aptitude says everything is up to date...08:49
StarKruzror what package tasks did it want to install that I didn't let it install before?08:49
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Terminustrappist, no broken packages either...08:49
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trappistTerminus: what I mean is, it looks like a lot of packages got installed but not configured08:49
Terminusoh...08:49
echeeseOh yeah08:49
gnomefreakor should i enable acpci?08:49
echeeseI can't get PHP working08:49
echeeseApache2 works fine08:50
echeesebut php doesn't parse my files08:50
echeeseit just shows me my code08:50
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trappistecheese: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/08:50
StarKruzrdo I have to restart my PXE install in order for this to work right?08:50
delireAndrew[CS]  go to the Administration menu and look for Synaptic there. once it has started up, search for 'amsn' and if it's found, click on the green box. a 'tick' will appear. then hit 'Apply' and it will download and install.08:50
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StarKruzrand have it repartition and everything?08:50
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Terminustrappist, doesn't look that different from previous logs... i just used the auto updater thingy here...08:51
lowman62hello room08:51
mcphailtrappist: a2enmod is easier than manually linking08:51
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trappistmcphail: yes, but I can never remember what it's called :)08:52
echeesetrappist, php4 isn't in mods-available08:52
mcphailtrappist: thank goodness for tab completion!08:52
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trappistecheese: did you install libapache2-mod-php4?08:53
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trappistmcphail: if only I could remember the a2 part :)08:53
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Andrew[CS] ok well thanks people08:53
echeesetrappist, :D no08:53
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Yobuihi, i'm having loads of 2.2, 2.3 on my laptop, top shows 37% CPU usage (xmms, Xorg).. but nothing too heavy... what can I do, it's unresponsive08:53
Andrew[CS] this machine is so slow08:53
Andrew[CS] i'll bre back08:53
Yobuiand last week it wasn't behaving like this08:54
Andrew[CS] hey... uh... is irc already installed on here? :p08:54
Cancom_TSI'm new to ubuntu.  anyone having experience installing radius?08:54
Andrew[CS] because i just realized im doing all my irc stuff off of archspace08:54
Andrew[CS] from a webpage08:55
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : yeah - irssi and Xirc both08:55
Andrew[CS] oh...08:55
PuMpErNiCkLe*Xchat IRC08:55
Andrew[CS] i'll check em out08:55
Andrew[CS] ok, Xchat is irc?08:55
PuMpErNiCkLeyeah08:56
Motoko-chanYes.08:56
Yobuiyes, it's pretty decent08:56
Andrew[CS] wow08:56
YobuiI'm using it right now :)08:56
PuMpErNiCkLeand irssi is terminal irc08:56
Andrew[CS] nm...08:56
slibsis there any other way to remove wlan driver than apt-get remove?08:56
delireAndrew[CS]  use 'gaim'08:56
Motoko-chanKVIrc is nice too.08:56
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delireAndrew[CS]  or yes, xchat.08:56
Linfanguinohh god this is frustrating...i have no sound when i stream a video-i had a sound when i streamed with mplayer but it played choppy i changed the video player to vlc now i dont have sound-when i right click on the video it says micromedia flash player08:56
Linfanguinno sound arggggggggggggg08:56
Andrew[CS] i dont like it08:56
Andrew[CS] gaim that is08:56
CodenameKTpump bitchx i like better than irssi08:56
delireAndrew[CS]  gaim has support for jabber, yahoo, MSN and ICQ IIRC08:56
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echeesetrappist, still no luck08:57
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slibsi use bitlbee, it can be runned on any irc-client since it's actually a irc-server08:57
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avalostaye Seveas alive?08:57
trappist<3 bitlbee08:57
slibsit supports also jabber, yahoo msn and icq08:57
Seveasavalost, and kicking08:57
slibsno need for gaim \o/08:57
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trappistslibs: just irssi and screen ;)08:58
Andrew[CS] delire, i know, i just dont like the chat window setup, i will be using it for anything besides msn08:58
Andrew[CS] but thanks08:58
Andrew[CS] l;ater08:58
mcphailscreen rocks08:58
avalostSeveas, your java package returns error 403, are you aware?08:58
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Seveas!tell avalost about seveas08:58
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delireAndrew[CS]  i use irssi, or bitchx in the terminal, so i can hardly stand behind gaim as a good IRC client.08:59
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avalostSeveas, that has something about 403 errors on it?08:59
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Seveasavalost, it says why you should use a mirror09:00
avalosti have had your repos installed for some time however java never updates09:00
avalosti see09:00
_joequestion for anyone listening: any easy way for me to upgrade firefox to version 1.5 on ubuntu 5.10?09:00
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mweavalost: yeah. using a mirror will probably solve it09:00
trappist!tell _joe about firefox1509:00
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Seveasthe base server is on an adsl line09:00
zblachhell. i can't remember how to type accents09:00
Seveasthe mirrors have bigger pipes09:00
Andrew[CS] alright09:00
_joethanks trappist :)09:00
Seveaszblach, lk ths :)09:01
mwegg09:01
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zblachSEJeff, howww?09:02
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Sarah-Evofangirlanyone home?09:02
mwezblach: pressing the accent key, then a letter works here09:02
zblachhey Sarah-Evofangirl, you've just asked that in the busiest room in IRC09:02
zblachmwe. accent keys? like : + E?09:02
Sarah-Evofangirl._.;09:02
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kennethanyone else having problems installing firefox 1.5 ?09:03
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Terminustrappist, thanks for the help... looks like the problem is with ssh-add... still have no idea why though.09:03
Sarah-Evofangirlwell, this won't take long, I want to go back to Windows XP... how please?09:03
trappistTerminus: have you tried calling ssh-add manually?09:03
mwezblach: what's that? I have keys with `'^"~ and so on. I press that key, then a letter09:03
CanYouHelpMePlzSarah-Evofangirl: put the xp cd in..09:03
Terminustrappist, yeah... didn't work. same error message as with keychain.09:04
zblach:E09:04
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Sarah-EvofangirlCanYouHelpPlz: doesn't work, thats why im here09:04
mwezblach: that looks quite broken09:04
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zblachmwe, verily09:04
Terminustrappist, i think it can't connect to the socket for some reason...09:05
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Sarah-EvofangirlI need to know how to get XP back on my computer within the next 2 hours guys, not to be pushy ^_^;;09:05
SeveasSarah-Evofangirl, ask on #windows, this channel is for Ubuntu support09:06
CanYouHelpMePlzWhat he Said!09:06
Terminustrappist, if i do a eval `ssh-agent` befor ssh-add though, it works...09:06
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FieldySnutsprobably the wrong network to even ask on09:06
Sarah-Evofangirlwell I thought it would come under ubuntu help as I installed Ubuntu and now can't get back09:06
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FieldySnutscomeon use some common sense, how would we know a thing about windows...09:06
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CanadianSnowhow do i change the ports im trying to use?09:07
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poimensomone here is a rom player?09:07
topylidoes the firefox package building tool mentioned at the end of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion work?09:07
poimensomeone here kwon a good linux ps2 emulator09:07
poimen??09:07
Cancom_TSRADIUS - anyone listening installed this...09:07
SeveasSarah-Evofangirl, did you go to #windows to get rid of it by installing Ubuntu? I guess not, so don't comoe her asking for windows help09:07
ambSarah-Evofangirl, are you set to boot from CD-Rom?09:07
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Sarah-Evofangirlamb: yes09:08
SeveasCancom_TS, I just have to use it (wlan with 802.1x RADIUS authentication)09:08
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ambSarah-Evofangirl, so what happens when you boot the CD-Rom?09:08
Seveasamb...09:08
trappistamb: meet her in #windows09:08
Cypheruspango ?09:08
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mwecome on take the windows discussion out of here09:08
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Terminustrappist, gah... for some reason, it worked when i set it to --inherit local instead of --inherit local-once, which is the default. :/09:09
ambjust trying to be helpful...09:09
Cypherusfirefox needs pango to work ?09:09
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trappistTerminus: crazy.  never heard of such a thing.  glad it worked :)09:09
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Seveasamb, that's ok, but the channel is busy enough with just Ubuntu problems :)09:09
Sarah-EvofangirlSeveas = jerkass09:09
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trappistawesome09:10
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Terminustrappist, yeah... thanks for the help man. i think it doesn't like the existing ssh-agent for some reason. heh.09:10
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trappistTerminus: busted socket or something maybe09:10
CodenameKTkhermans: hey09:11
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jvldvd burn process finished flawlessly :)09:11
Terminustrappist, yeah... maybe i should reboot and clean /tmp.09:11
jvlthx for the help delire.09:11
jvlgreat weekend all im out09:11
Terminusi'll try it out.09:11
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CypherusAnyone here with amd64 ?09:12
Seveas!tell Cypherus about anyone09:12
PuMpErNiCkLeSeveas: o_O09:13
ambCypherus, yes09:13
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SeveasPuMpErNiCkLe, ?09:13
Cypherusamb: using firefox 1.5 ?09:13
CanYouHelpMePlz!tell seveas about manners09:13
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ambCypherus, yes09:13
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DreamgliderHello, i tried this script but i cant get it to mount my iso ! -> http://www.devmafia.com/Tutorials-Linux-Iso-Mount-Script anyone know what i do wrong ?09:13
nekohayocould anyone tell me why the fonts FreeSans, FreeSerif, etc have some colors bleeding, as if they had wrong subpixel hinting?09:13
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pa_lwtf is wrong with mozilla firefox, its so slow sometimes09:13
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SeveasCanYouHelpMePlz, ?09:14
Cypherusamb: did you have any problems installing it ?09:14
deejoe!tell deejoe about manners09:14
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ambCypherus, sorry, "yes but" - i.e. I compiled it, ran it, downgraded to 1.0.7, but still have Thunderbird running09:14
CanYouHelpMePlzpa_l: thats java for you09:14
nekohayopa_l, what do you mean, "sometimes" ?09:14
jendapa_l: turn on pipelining09:14
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ambCypherus, does it by any chance complain on library loading?09:14
mwepa_l: and disable the ipv6 stuff09:14
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pa_lhow do i turn on pipeline?09:14
delirepa_l about:config09:14
jendapa_l: type about:config in the address bar09:14
jendaand search for pipeline09:14
Cypherusamb: library loading ?09:14
jendamake it "true"09:14
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ambCypherus, question 1, did you build from scratch, or did you download a binary, and if so 32-bit or 64-bit?09:15
pa_lno pipeline09:15
jendaCan anyone tell me how to access my routers IP table through telnet?09:15
pa_ljenda couldnt find pipline09:15
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jendapa_l: pipelining09:15
delirepa_l 'pipelining'09:15
Cypherusamb: downloaded from mozilla.com (didnt find anything but binaries there).09:15
delirejenda you can't ssh into your router?09:15
delirejenda once you have logged into the router, type 'iptables -L'09:16
pa_lno cannot find pipelining09:16
mweif you run 64bit ubuntu you can't get flash or the java plugin09:16
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ambCypherus, 32-bit or 64-bit? 32 bit I presume09:16
delirepa_l use the filter at the top09:16
jendadelire: how do I ssh?09:16
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delirejenda 'ssh username@routeraddress'09:17
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bshumatepa_l : network.http.pipelining is what you're after09:17
jendak09:17
pa_ldelire which filter explain a little more in detail09:17
Cypherusamb: probally, downloaded from the frontpage.09:17
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Cypherusamb: how about this one: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5/source/ ?09:17
Terminustrappist, for some reason, a stupid reboot solved the problem. heh.09:17
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delirejenda: what is your internal IP? /sbin/ifconfig09:18
ambCypherus, you will have problems building it from source greater than problems in getting the binary to run :-)09:18
pa_lbshumate: that address is not working09:18
trappistTerminus: that makes me think simply killing and rerunning ssh-agent would have worked09:18
ambCypherus, I suspect what your problem is (assuming you are running Breezy) is that the 32 bit pango libraries etc. are not fixed up09:18
Terminustrappist, yeah... grrr... i've been away from linux for too long. haven't used this box in a month.09:19
jendadelire: OK, got it, thanks :)09:19
delirejenda: ;)09:19
Cypherusamb: probally ! I keep getting some pango errors.09:19
ambCypherus, follow the instructions re 64bit here: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download/09:19
bshumatepa_l: you do not type that into the address bar!  you type "about:config" into the address bar, and then look for network.http.pipelining, and then double-click on it!09:19
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delirejenda: once you learn to use ssh you'll bawk at the word 'telnet' ;)09:19
jendadelire: But I still can't get the graphics to work... I'll now try running xmms on a fresh install...09:19
Terminustrappist, anyway, thanks. :)09:19
Yobuiwhere do you configure the amount of eye candy KDE uses in kubuntu09:19
delirejenda so you're not in X? not sure what you mean09:20
mweYobui: kcontrol09:20
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jendadelire: I am. And xmms works!09:20
yaniswhen I try to install mplayer I get : mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable09:20
Cypherusamb: so instaling Xara is the solution to all my firefox problems? :p09:20
ambCypherus, that's from the second bullet "Create a 32bit pixbuf loaders file" to the last one, except change the last one to "32bit Firefox"09:20
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pa_las iam saying i cannot find network.http.pipelining either on that list about:config09:20
jendadelire: Now I'm guessing I'll try NVidia next...09:20
ambCypherus, (or whatever the path to Firefox/Mozilla/whatever you want to run is)09:20
ambCypherus, no, I just wrote that bit of the page. The same instructions work with anything that needs pango09:21
ambCypherus, easier than me explaining the lot on IRC09:21
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Pygifreaky: ping09:21
delirejenda: cool.. make sure you backup your config before getting going (it's in 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_BUP' ;)09:21
ambCypherus, obviously you don't need the Xara stuff09:21
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blue-frogdelire, nvidia-glx makes a backup09:21
pa_lbshumate if you could be so kind and explain, what iam looking for09:21
bshumatepa_l: do you currently have something typed into the filter text field? if so, just click the "Show_All" button at the right, and scroll down until you see network.http.pipelning -  the list is in alphabetical order09:21
delireblue-frog hah, does it.09:22
sorush21could someone please take a look at my sources list to find out what is wrong I can 't upgrade ?09:22
sorush21http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/668609:22
yaniswhen I try to install mplayer I get : mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable . why is that?09:22
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Cypherusamb: ah, now I understand ! Change Xara with firefox, and you got a guide for it.09:22
jendadelire: yup...09:22
mweyanis: what mirror is that you're using?09:22
Cypherusamb: so this worked for you? (wasn't there a but?)09:22
zblachso, mwe, what is the magical accent trick?09:22
yanismwe: gr09:22
mweyanis: sounds like a b0rked one09:22
symtabhello...does ubuntu have a graphical configuration program for grub?09:22
ambCypherus, yep. I have got /most/ pango and gdk-pixbuf stuff to run that way. I got Thunderbird to work by building from source, but it was a pig (had to patch stuff)09:23
mwezblach: I told you09:23
yanismwe: so try tomorrow for example?09:23
pa_lok now iam getting something bshumate, should i set network.http.pipelinig to true?09:23
zblachmwe, i didn't get it :(09:23
Cypherusamb: so i can still use the binaries, or do I have to build it from source ?09:23
mweyanis: no use a mirror for ubuntu09:23
delirepa_l yes09:23
mwe!mplayer09:23
ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106109:23
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PuMpErNiCkLesymtab: Grubconf09:23
mweyanis: look at that09:23
bshumatepa_l: yep...double-click the line to set it to true09:24
pa_ldelire should i disable network.dns.disableipv6?09:24
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symtabPuMpErNiCkLe, which package contains Grubconf?09:24
ambCypherus, you have a choice: either try the mechanism on the Xara page with the binaries, and it will work (or fail to work) in about 2 minutes, OR you can try building from source, which took me AGES and heartache09:24
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Cypherus;)09:24
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PuMpErNiCkLesymtab: None that I can see, but you can get it from http://grubconf.sourceforge.net/ :)09:24
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symtabPuMpErNiCkLe, i cant find it with synaptic search09:24
ambCypherus, I don't guarantee the pango stuff will fix it, but it has fixed about 10 other apps so far09:24
CypherusIf it fails, ill just stick with the old one I guess.09:24
mwezblach: I press one of them, `'^~" etc. then a letter lk I09:24
delirepa_l anything ipv6 i would imagine is safe to be disabled given the world currently still uses a 4 block addressing system ;)09:24
zblach'e09:24
symtabPuMpErNiCkLe, :)09:25
mwezblach: that's a quote09:25
mwezblach: press the proper key09:25
zblach:e09:25
zblache:09:25
mwezblach: come on. use the accent keys. not colon and quote09:26
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pa_ldelire and thats all? it should be faster now?09:26
zblachaccent keys... ; ' # [ ]  and =, right?09:26
landerrocan sb help me? I followed the steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion but I can't run firefox. When I start it in the konsole i get this error: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:26
delirepa_l yep, should be09:26
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mwezblach: no. I don't know what kind of keyboard you got09:26
Seveaslanderro, are you using kubuntu perhaps?09:26
btaylor5619can someone help me out here?09:26
PuMpErNiCkLesymtab: Also, Gnome System Tools09:26
landerroyes09:26
Seveas!find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.009:26
mwezblach: mine has keys with tilde (~) etc on it09:26
jendabtaylor5619: with what?09:26
Seveaslanderro, then apt-get install firefox09:27
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.800.6) in libdevel/libgtk2.0-0-dbg ;; (/usr/lib/{libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0|libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.800.6}) in libs/libgtk2.0-0.09:27
LabThugAnyone in here setup apache2 and mod_perl on ubuntu?  I've got things installed, but it wants me to open the .pl files instead of processing them.  Ideas?09:27
Seveasthat will install all of its dependencies too09:27
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landerroseveas: but that's firefox 1.07 and not 1.509:27
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yanismwe: where do I find a mirror of the multiverse?09:27
Seveaslanderro, correct, but you will need the dependencies for firefox09:27
btaylor5619i've got two hard drives, both of which have been mounted, but i can't write anything to "/hdb1"... what's going on?09:27
martin_a media library list as in winamp or itunes?09:27
Seveasyou can uninstall it again immediately09:27
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symtabPuMpErNiCkLe, i know...but gnome-system-tools is not included in ubuntu, some modules from it are, but not the grub/lilo configuration09:27
martin_What is a Linux media player that has a media library like in itunes or winamp?09:28
LabThugbtaylor5619: if they are SCSI drives, they'll come up /sda#09:28
trappistlanderro: sudo a2enmod mod_perl09:28
mwe!tell yanis about multiverse09:28
landerroseveas: so I can't install 1.5?09:28
btaylor5619no, both of my disks are IDEs09:28
mweyanis: read /msg from ubotu09:28
Seveaslanderro, yes you can, please read my lines carefully09:28
pa_lfirefox is still extremly slow09:28
landerroseveas: sorry I'm a newbie, what do I have to do?09:29
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tomin what file are the keyboard shortcuts stored?09:29
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btaylor5619so why can't i write to the second hard drive?09:30
martin_So know one knows of amedia player that can handle media libraries?09:30
mcphailbtaylor5619: is your second disk partitioned and formatted?09:30
btaylor5619yes, it's got a partition table and everything... it's even got a folder called "lost+found" in it09:30
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mcphailbtaylor5619: you'll need to set permissions for the mount point09:31
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btaylor5619using "chmod"?09:31
mcphailbtaylor5619: yes09:31
mcphailsudo chmod09:31
btaylor5619ok09:32
mcphail(or chown)09:32
btaylor5619ok09:32
btaylor5619thanks... i'll try it!09:32
mcphailok09:32
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mcphailtrappist: this a2enmod thing is a recurring theme...09:33
zblachchown +r us /base09:33
yanismwe: I still havent found a mirror09:33
mwepermissions of mount points have absoulutely no effect. only options to mount do09:33
Andrew[CS] ya, xchat is only working for this server/channel09:33
Andrew[CS] whats up?09:33
sexcopter8000mis there a nice and easy way to convert .ogg files to, say, mp3 or m4a or aac etc?09:34
trappistmcphail: maybe I'll remember it next time :)09:34
ColonelPaniquezblach : not quite.... chown -R us /base is more like it ;-)09:34
mweyanis: just add the word universe to the end of the line with your current mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list09:34
Andrew[CS] and why isn't the new amsn on the list of stuff to download, the old one is (.94) but not the new one (.95)09:34
mweyanis: back it up first in case you screw up though09:34
zblachColonelPanique, thanks. i needed to know what I was doing wrong09:35
Andrew[CS] uh...09:35
yanismwe: of course I have mirror rep. in my sources09:35
mwesuggesting to change permissions of mount points is bad advice. they have no effect on mounted file systems whatsoever09:35
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mweyanis: yes. then add universe at the end like I said09:36
yanismwe: you just told me to find another mirror because maybe its brobken09:36
mweyanis: no I meant mirror for mplayer09:36
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Eugman!customization09:36
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Eugman09:36
mweyanis: wasn't sure you were using the universe one09:36
Eugman!printer09:37
ubotuprinter is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org09:37
ColonelPaniquemwe: whose changing perms on mount points in here?09:37
yanismwe: ah.so you mean a mplayer specfic mirror09:37
yanismwe: not a general ubuntu mirror?09:37
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mweyanis: forget about it. if you didn't put some random debian mirror or something in there you should be good09:38
pa_lfirefox suchs09:38
mweColonelPanique: 21:31 <mcphail> btaylor5619: you'll need to set permissions for the mount point09:38
pa_lfirefox sucks09:38
Sonderbladehow do you upgrade from breezy to dapper?09:38
janolifirefox 1.5 pa_l ?09:38
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ColonelPaniquemwe: ohh, i missed that...09:39
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pa_ljanoli its not responding09:39
yanismwe: I do understand now. I *did* add another line with multiverse09:39
Cypherusthis means: /lib/libdl.so.2: version `dir' not found (required by /lib/libncursesw.so.5)09:39
Cypherus?09:39
fevelDo I have to create an account on cedega??09:40
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echeeseWhere are my fonts?09:40
tomgrrr. firefox doesn't want to start up. it says my profile is already in use, but i don't have any firefox running. i don't want to use another profile. what can i do?09:40
mcphailmwe: drwxr-xr-x  4 neil neil 4096 2005-12-22 15:23 second - my /mnt directory09:40
pa_ljanoli i have 1.0.709:40
mweyanis: pastebin your sources.list and I'll go over it if you want me to09:40
janoliwhy not 1.5?09:40
janolirules !09:40
mwemcphail: yes?09:40
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yanismwe: http://pastebin.ca/3603409:41
pa_ljanoli can i get 1.5 from apt=09:41
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mwemcphail: changing owner wont effect mounted file systems09:41
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CodenameKTtom: make sure all the phile permissions in the /home/codenamekt/.mozilla09:41
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janolinop, u just install the tar within a directory in linux09:41
janolithen run from there09:41
kenttom, even after a reboot?  One solution (though not really ideal solution) is to remove the .mozilla folder in home.09:41
mwemcphail: however root should own that dir so normal users don't tamper with it when it's not mounted09:41
CodenameKTtom: are set to userid:userid:09:41
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tomkent: lol. and all my bookmarks, all my extensions and my whole configuration will be deleted?09:42
bshumatetom: try removing ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock09:42
kenttom, correct. :)09:42
_nullWhy is a gpg --list-keys | wc -l returning 3 if I execute it on the bash but if it's executed by a script it returns 0...?09:42
DonvinzkHi, I would like to setup my internet connection. Is rp-ppoe.so part of the standard installation ? I am under windows, I can not see.09:42
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mcphailmwe: agree on the last point09:43
DonvinzkI neet to connect via ethernet09:43
tombtw is there a firefox 1.5 package or do i have to download it manually?09:43
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Ngtom: see the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page09:43
yanismwe: what do you think?09:43
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mweyanis: you have hoary multiverse in there! change every occurence of hoary to breezy and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:44
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mweyanis: line 33 and 3409:44
mweyanis: that's why it doesn't work, probably09:45
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tomwhere are all the gnome settings stored? e.g. panel settings or keyboard shorcuts?09:45
yanisthanks mwe09:45
mweyanis: I'll post a cleaned up sources.list for you09:45
jendaYES!!!!09:45
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jendadelire_away: ah... you're away... I finally got it working09:45
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pa_lhow do i install firefox...tar.gz?09:47
pa_li have don tar xvzf fire....09:47
ChousukeYou shouldn't install from source.09:47
jahshua--sudo apt-get install firefox ?09:47
pa_lbut then i dont want to run firefox from that directory all the time09:47
bshumatetom : ~/.gnome209:47
Chousukenor the  binary package.09:47
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pa_lwell if firefox 1.5 is in the apt- package manager i could have done that but, its not there09:48
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yanispa_l: tar -xvvzf firefox.tar.gz09:48
jahshua--update your repositories09:48
jahshua--it is there09:48
jahshua--thats where i got it09:48
yanishohohooooooooooo09:48
Chousukein Dapper?09:48
tomjahshua--: it is not for me09:48
yanismwe: it worksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss09:48
jahshua--update your repositories09:48
jahshua--sources list09:48
pa_lhowto update repository?09:48
tomjahshua--: how? apt-get update/upgrade ?09:48
jahshua--no09:49
jahshua--hmm09:49
Chousukejahshua--: You shouldn't use dapper yet.09:49
jahshua--!sources09:49
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:49
PMantisHow do I commit my disk cache to disk (ext3) ?09:49
jahshua--im not using dapper09:49
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Ngpa_l: there are instructions in the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page for how to install ff1.5 on breezy09:49
ChousukeAre you using backports then?09:49
Chousuke!firefox09:49
jahshua--yes09:49
jahshua--here!09:49
jahshua--!sources09:49
Ngdon't use dapper unless you know what you are doing09:49
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:49
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DonvinzkIs rp-ppoe a package in the ubuntu standard installation ?09:50
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Chousuke!tell pa_l about firefox1.509:50
mweyanis: back up the old one and use this one instead http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/668709:50
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jendaChousuke: The whole thing WAS caused by the 686 kernel :))09:50
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Chousukejenda: hoh09:51
tombshumate: the point is: i did a backup of my whole /home directory but the old gnome settings don't work any more09:51
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symtabapt-get update doesnt work09:51
symtabany ideas why09:51
Chousukejenda: weird09:51
symtabhttp://pastebin.com/49392309:51
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bshumatePMantis: sync09:51
slashx1896hey..09:51
TyrsisCan someone help me for a sec09:51
jendaChousuke: you're tellin me... weird indeed09:51
jahshua--Tyrsis: with what?09:51
bshumatetom: sorry about that.09:51
PMantisbshumate, That's it? Cool, thanks.09:51
slashx1896i just copyed/burned a movie using dvdbackup,shrinkdvd, and k3b, and the dvd wont play on any player09:51
TyrsisI am trying to get my wireless to wor09:51
Tyrsisk09:51
bshumatePMantis: yep-  man sync ;-)09:51
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mweyanis:09:52
TyrsisI did the ndiswrapper09:52
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tombshumate: any ideas why it doesn't work?09:52
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bshumatetom: nah, sorry.09:52
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gnomefreakok brb im gonna try one more thing :(09:53
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TyrsisBut when I do modprobe is says.... FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10.5-386/kerneldrivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko09:53
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TyrsisOperation Not Permitted09:53
EugmanUbuntu says my printer is ready but any time I try to give it a job the job will be there for a second and then dissapear. It seems to be retaing the information because it's up to 5 test pages now.09:53
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mweTyrsis: use sudo modprobe09:54
TyrsisI do09:55
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TyrsisThats what it says when I use it09:55
Eugmanwhoops it's not up to 5 test pages it just is up to job number 509:55
mweTyrsis: pastebin dmesg|tail -n 2009:56
NiekieWoohoo, finally fixed some Java IRC bot to behave correctly.09:56
EugmanIncase anyone can help me it says the printer is Ready: printer off-line. But the printer is blinks ready so it is powered on.09:56
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Motoko-chanIs there a newer version of the kernel gfor ubuntu? Anything higher than 2.6.12-9 ?09:56
TyrsisCommand not found nwe09:56
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slynuxHey, I need create the live-cd, How I can do This??09:57
ChousukeIt's not easy.09:57
mweTyrsis: pastebin is a place to paste on the web. I want you to paste the output of "dmesg|tail -n20"09:57
Chousukeslynux: google for deadcd09:57
Tyrsisoh09:57
mwe!tell Tyrsis about pastebin09:57
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Tyrsisok09:58
Eugmanslynux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo?highlight=%28custom%2909:58
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mweTyrsis: read /msg from ubotu09:58
echeesecan I setup my system so someone else can access a second display via VNC?09:58
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jhennshouldn't 'dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg' reconfigure x?09:58
Terrasquewhat do I need to mount nfs on client?09:58
blue-frogecheese, installe freenx will be faster and secured09:58
TyrsisI did, but the PC I have ubuntu on can not connect to the net though09:58
echeeseblue-frog, how do I do that, then?09:58
blue-frogecheese, wiki09:59
echeeseah09:59
echeesefound it09:59
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mweTyrsis: well if you can't paste the log I don't know how to help09:59
psusianyone know how on earth maildirs keep track of what folder messages are in when all the message files are in ~/Maildir/cur instead of in a seperate directory for each folder?09:59
jhennhow do i reconfigure x?09:59
TyrsisI can say this'09:59
TyrsisAfter doing that10:00
TyrsisIt says everything failed10:00
tomjhenn: something like: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:00
Tyrsisloadndiswrapper failed10:00
mweTyrsis: that's not an error message. I need the output of dmesg and you can't paste it in here or people get pissed10:00
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helpPleasehello, i want to join a french chan did you know the name please?10:00
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mwe!fr10:01
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais10:01
yanisnice bot mwe  :)10:01
yanis!el10:01
ubotuyanis: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:01
yanis!gr10:01
ubotuElate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi10:01
yaniscool!10:01
bungholewhat does it mean one says, 'this distro is debian-based' ?  how exactly is it related to debian, ubuntu I mean10:01
TyrsisWell what would you recommend me try nwe ?10:01
bungholeI got breezy, just kinda hesistant to install it10:01
polpakbunghole, it's built from debian packages10:01
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jhennWhat is kernel framebuffer device interface and should i use it?10:02
mweTyrsis: I can't say anything unless I see what dmesg says10:02
polpakbunghole, and changes (fixes, etc) are sent back to the debian maintainers10:02
helpPleasemerci thanks10:02
bungholesarge/testing have different packages than ubuntu10:02
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Tyrsisok let me see something10:02
bungholethis is based on unstable?10:02
bungholeI am looking to run apache, vsftpd, smb, nfs, mail, and ssh10:02
charwoodbunghole: Not really, it's heavily modified and is quite stable.10:02
bungholeI want a stable system10:03
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bungholeim on sarge atm10:03
bungholeok10:03
mwebunghole: I believe ubuntu is based on sid10:03
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Ngbunghole: it's based on debian, some of the packages come from unstable, but the packages in the "main" repository are stable and supported10:03
polpakbunghole, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship10:03
bungholeok, and it does have xfce4.2?  I cannot live without it10:03
polpak!info xfce10:03
echeeseblue-frog, So I can't do it on an amd64 system?10:03
bungholethe LUG meeting last night gave out breezy 5.10 cds10:03
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bunghole!info xfce410:04
ubotuxfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB10:04
johanUbuntu identifies my video card as an s3-card although it is an Nvidia Geforce 4 4200 ti... Anybody knows what's wrong??10:04
bungholeahh aswet10:04
bungholesweet!10:04
blue-frogecheese, if it says so... don't remeber what it says for 6410:04
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bungholepolpak, for future ref., official name is xfce410:05
bungholeat least until 5 comes out10:05
bungholeheh10:05
polpakSeveas, why does ubotu send replies directly to me instead of to the channel?10:05
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polpakbunghole, yeah, I saw that after I apt-cache searched it10:05
mwepolpak: you should probably ask cafuego IIRC10:05
bungholepolpak, alias search='apt-cache search'10:06
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bungholepolpak, .bashrc10:06
polpakbunghole, I know how to alias =p10:06
bungholereal handy shit10:06
johanUbuntu identifies my video card as an s3-card although it is an Nvidia Geforce 4 4200 ti... Anybody knows what's wrong??10:06
polpakbunghole, thanks for the recommendation though10:06
bungholepolpak, sure bor10:06
bungholebro*10:06
mwethat's the top of laziness :)10:06
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bungholemwe, height of laziness indeed10:07
polpakjohan, can you pastebin the output of lspci ?10:07
bluefoxicyman10:07
bungholewhy on save time and effort when you can10:07
bluefoxicygtuxnes isn't in the repos :(10:07
muhammadhello10:07
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polpakbluefoxicy, what is it?10:08
bluefoxicypolpak:  an NES emulator10:09
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Java_the_HuttI am trying to install Automatrix, but it requires a pacakge called Zenity. I can find the package anywhere, what can i do ?10:10
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mwe!automatix10:10
ubotuautomatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!10:10
Java_the_Huttoh10:10
Java_the_HuttI also thought so that way, but there were so many positive comments in the forums that i am almost convinced10:10
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_oPhello fat swetty naked geeks!10:11
_oP:p10:11
mcphailHas anyone on amd64 successfully installed mythtv?10:11
ilba7rJava_the_Hutt, you can install the packages automatix install search for what you want and install it10:11
CodenameKT_oP: skinny naked geek10:12
mwemcphail: multimedia is generally a pain on ubuntu 64bit. use 32bit instead is the general recommendation for now10:12
Java_the_Huttilba7r: connection to my question ?10:12
djm62my webcam is a matter of record, but how could anyone know I was a geek?10:12
_oPalso possible hehe but naked and a geek that is for shure10:12
mcphailmwe: i like a challenge10:12
_oP:))10:13
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CodenameKT_oP: affirmative10:13
ilba7rJava_the_Hutt, you were asking about running automatrix shell10:13
_oPnoob here if someone has a noob guestion cmon and ask10:13
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merlyI did a fresh install "server-expert" and i tried to install x, but it doesn't seem to work. startx goes to either black screen or weird colors. which package should I install?10:13
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mwemcphail: yeah that's a workaround10:14
mcphailmwe: i even installed _flashblock_ the other day ;)10:14
CanYouHelpMePlzMotoko-chan: yes10:14
merlyalso, apt-get install asks for the CD, doesn't dl from the web. any easy way to change that?10:14
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jendamerly: there is :)10:15
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jendamerly: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:15
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merlyjenda - which line should i change? i enabled universe multiverse, etc10:15
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jendamerly: is the first line about the CD?10:16
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merlyjenda. don't know... in other room, i'll check it out. if so, i comment it out?10:16
mwemerly: and you did sudo apt-get update too?10:16
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jendamerly: yes, that's best10:17
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merlyjenda - thanks, and if i install icewm-lite or xubuntu-desktop (or something else that requires x) will that get all the xorg files too?10:18
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mwemerly: yeah10:18
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moodogEvening laddles and jellyspoons10:18
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jendamerly: yup10:18
merlymwe, jenda- thanks. i'll try that and come pout if not.10:18
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jendamoodog; evening :)10:18
derek_djonsgoodevening all 2 :)10:18
jendano prob merlyBRB10:19
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minyalielHey :) I need some help... can't get midi files to work properly - which is strange, because when I used Windows withthe same comp., it wasn't a problem at all...10:20
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BxLis there a way to change the filesstem without formatting?10:20
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derek_djonsVery strange thing happend today. I installed the Animatix media codec and ... no sound anymore when I started watching a video file on the internet.10:21
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derek_djonsBut yesterday without animatix... no problem10:21
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echeeseE: Build-Depends dependency for nx cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package debhelper can satisfy version requirements10:22
ilba7rderek_djons how about other media files10:22
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topylican someone report success or failure with the "experimental" firefox builder mentioned on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:22
derek_djonsThey operate fine. Also system sounds are operating... it's only some media files like this one http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-116575479719719749610:22
ilba7rderek_djons, try lsof | grep /dev/dsp when you run into this problem again to see what program is using your sound device10:22
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derek_djonsilba7r, is it normal that the command may return such an error? lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev10:24
derek_djons      Output information may be incomplete.10:24
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derek_djonsOr am I doing something stupid :)10:25
ilba7rderek_djons, i can not run the file at all10:25
ilba7rderek_djons, it is lsof | grep /dev/dsp10:25
midzahow can speak german10:25
ilba7rl is small L10:25
ptolomidza: #ubuntu-de10:26
HericusSometimes I hate some noobs.10:26
echeese:(10:26
derek_djonsilba7r, that's odd... five minutes ago I still could see the video part, but no sound.10:26
HericusDo I have to apt-get install C compiler?10:26
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gnomefreaksudo apt-get install build-essential10:26
ilba7rhericus it is build-essentials for compiling10:26
HericusI know.10:26
Hericus...10:26
gnomefreakHericus, i told you how to install it10:27
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Hericus?10:27
echeeseHow can I fix this? E: Build-Depends dependency for nx cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package debhelper can satisfy version requirements10:27
HericusAlright.10:27
HericusThanks?10:27
merlyI changed xorg.conf so that default is 16 bit, and i reduced all resolution sizes to 800 x 60010:27
ilba7rderek_djons, ah it is downloading perhaps afterh the download  is comp10:27
merlybut startx still shows me gibberish10:27
gnomefreakHericus, sudo apt-get install build-essential10:27
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Hericuso_O gnomefreak, alright. thanks.10:27
gnomefreakHericus, yw10:27
derek_djonsilba7r, Oh indeed... it's buffering quite a big chunk.10:28
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derek_djonsilba7r, in the meantime I'm going to try something here... hold on please :)10:28
gnomefreakecheese, what ar eyou aiming to do?10:28
merlyis there some way to enter into the x configuration PROGRAM, rather than modifying xorg.conf by hand?10:28
echeesegnomefreak, compile nx10:28
zetorhi ya all!10:28
_oPhello10:28
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timfrostmerly, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:29
gnomefreakdid you run apt-get build-dep <packagename>?10:29
echeeseyes10:29
merlytimfrost - thanks! i'll try that10:29
ilba7rderek_djons, it seem it need to download it all before playing. PS if it is quick time i know that the mozilla-firefox pluging have some problems with quicktime10:29
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echeesesudo apt-get build-dep nx10:30
derek_djonsilba7r, could be indeed... I10:30
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hikenboothello all---had to reinstall ubuntu...i only have one machine and xwindows would not start...question...is there an alternative for the program lynx that works from a command line thats easier to navigate perhaps?10:30
gnomefreakyes echeese  that is it10:30
derek_djonsilba7r, I'm gonna check the source to see what kind of format it is10:30
hikenbootI was unable to use to to successfully navigate the web to get help on errors10:31
gnomefreaklinks2 hikenboot10:31
echeesegnomefreak, I get that errror when I run that though10:31
hikenbootis it much better than lynx?10:31
ilba7rmerly, try dpkg --configure and packagename for reconfiguring10:31
gnomefreakecheese, thats when your getting that error?10:31
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echeeseYes10:31
gnomefreakthats good :)10:31
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gnomefreakhikenboot, thats for you to decide10:31
gnomefreakecheese, is it freenx?10:31
hikenbootoh downloading it now to try10:32
echeesegnomefreak, freenx didn't give me that error10:32
echeesebut nx did10:32
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EricCartman-iboohey! Mac OS X update cleared the bootloader. I've booted from the CD and ran `yabootconfig` it configured the bootloader but it only boots linux now. How can I make it like the installation CD does, i.e. with three choice linux, os x, cdrom10:32
gnomefreakecheese, what is the program you are trying to compile called?10:32
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Kitshi10:32
derek_djonsilba7r, I could find the file-format but something is really wrong since I've installed Animatix. My notebook's cooler is now blowing 100%10:32
naliothhikenboot: links2 allows you graphics w/o X10:32
Java_the_Hutti am trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support. But it complaines about unmet dependencies. What can i do ?10:33
derek_djonsilba7r, It never blows, even if I am watchin DVD's ... so something is really wrong with the extra codecs10:33
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ilba7ri do not have animatix here derek_djons10:33
tonyyarussoI'm looking for success/failure stories for installing Breezy using a WIRELESS network interface, specific to that aspect.  Anyone?10:33
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, sudo apt-get install <each dependency>10:33
derek_djonsilba7r, okay... but you do know what it is?10:34
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ilba7rderek_djons, nope10:34
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: they are not installable it says10:34
ilba7r!animatix10:34
ubotuilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?10:34
ilba7rlol10:34
Kitsany help with installing ubuntu live disk I have a shuttle and its gone as far as 4294668-139000 checking if imageis intramfs10:34
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ilba7r!info animatix10:34
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gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt,  look for the base libs in synaptic10:35
derek_djonsilba7r, It's some extra software. Cool things like wmf codecs and more of such stuff10:35
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derek_djonsilba7r, It's some extra software. Cool things like wmf codecs and more of such stuff10:35
gnomefreakilba7r, automatix?10:35
echeesegnomefreak, sudo apt-get -b source nx freenx10:35
echeesearg10:35
echeesegnomefreak, I mean10:35
echeeseUnmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 5.0.0)10:35
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: using kubuntu, but those packages are absent10:35
ilba7rgnomefreak nope animatix10:35
derek_djonsLOL... mixed up automatix with animatix :D10:35
derek_djonstotally n00b10:35
gnomefreak^^^se10:35
gnomefreaksee10:35
derek_djonssorry my fault :D10:36
ilba7rderek_djons, lol10:36
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gnomefreak!automatix10:36
ubotuit has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!10:36
Kitsyes and me want to try ubuntu10:36
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hikenbootgnomefreak: thanks! its a lot easier to understand!10:36
gnomefreakyw hikenboot10:36
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ilba7rgnomefreak i have all the automatix packages installed before i heared of it10:36
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: one of them is libmad010:36
invitadohola10:36
derek_djonsubotu, yes, I'm busy already deinstalling it :D10:36
ubotuderek_djons: I don't know, could you explain it?10:36
ilba7r!es10:36
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.10:36
gnomefreakok echeese do you already have the tar?10:36
Java_the_HuttCan anyone help me for mp3 support ?10:36
Noriega!mp310:36
uboturumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:36
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, are you on breezy?10:37
invitadogracias10:37
echeesegnomefreak, I think so10:37
derek_djonsubotu, explain what precise? :)10:37
Java_the_HuttNoriega: in that page it says that i have to install gstreamer mad10:37
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: yes10:37
ilba7rderek_djons, ubotu is a bot10:37
Kitswhat is initramfs ??10:37
teclishi, is it known bug, that kmail shows the last line twice in the sent message folder?10:37
echeesegnomefreak, Yeah, and I've extracted it10:37
ilba7rderek_djons, he is not human :)10:37
gnomefreaki have libmad in mine10:37
Java_the_HuttNoriega: but i cant install that package10:37
derek_djonsilba7r, christ... :) lol10:37
Noriegaoh :(10:37
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, run apt-cache search libmad10:37
derek_djonsilba7r, how more n00b can this get :D10:38
merlytimfrost - i am still having trouble. i tried a couple of settings - 24 bit 1024; 16 bit 800, and i still get gibberish on the screen (different gibberish tho)10:38
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derek_djonsI'm talking too bots now :D10:38
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gnomefreakecheese, did you apt-get build-dep freenx?10:38
ilba7rderek_djons, we all were and most of us are still noob :)10:38
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: i have non ubuntu repos in my sources list does it matter10:38
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Kitsl8rs wil find some one somewhere else to help me10:38
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, please tell me you dont have debian?10:38
ahsmhi everyone10:38
_nullHow can I trigger a logout from a script?10:38
gnomefreakrepos10:38
ahsmhow do i open a file in terminal10:38
ahsmi want to open XF86Config-410:39
grayman_ahsm, what file type?10:39
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: no, just KDE 3.5 thing i suppose10:39
ahsmwhat do i type to open it?10:39
ilba7r_null if you mean shutdown it is shutdown time -r to reboot -h to shutdown10:39
Motoko-chanIs there a newer kernel than 2.6.12-9-386 ?10:39
grayman_ahsm, try vim10:39
derek_djonsilba7r, I used IRC long time ago. I still know most of the command and behviour code, but some things fled my mind... also how to recognize a bot :D10:39
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ilba7r_null, man shutdown10:39
ahsmthanks grayman_10:39
_nullilba7r, no i mean just logout ;)10:39
echeesegnomefreak, Yes10:39
Kitsthanks guys for not helping10:39
Motoko-chanilba7r, "halt" works too for shutdown10:39
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gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt,  can you paste your sources.list file to pastebin please10:39
grayman_ahsm, :q to quit10:39
ilba7r_null depend mainly on the window manager you use10:40
ahsmgrayman_, thank you. i can edit my mouse settings from here right?10:40
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_nullilba7r, metacity10:40
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Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: sure hang on10:40
KnowerrorsHey all, on Firefox 1.07 I keep getting "Document Contains No Data" on some websites, Im on dialup, so its probably due to my slow connection, is there any way to stop this timeout problem?10:40
ilba7rMotoko-chan, that is right too :)10:40
Motoko-chanheh10:40
tonyyarussoHas anyone successfully done an install over a wireless connection?  (To reassure me that it might work.)10:40
grayman_ahsm, yeah i guess10:40
_nulltonyyarusso, here10:40
gnomefreakok echeese you extracted it and im assuming you got all the libs it needs once extracted you should beable to cd to the extracted file and run ./configure or ./configure --help10:40
Motoko-chanAll I need is someone to fix the driver for the vortex network card.10:40
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grayman_ahsm, if you need quick reference using vim just ask10:40
blue-frogtonyyarusso, one with native support and one with ndiswrapper10:41
ahsmgrayman_, ok thanks :)10:41
tonyyarusso_null, blue-frog: Thanks.  (I do know that the card works out of the box after install, btw.)10:41
blue-frogtonyyarusso, not all of them10:41
ahsmguys10:41
tonyyarussoblue-frog, How many have you tried?10:42
ilba7rtonnyarusoo i am just to afraid of disconnection while install that is why never tried it10:42
ahsmfor protocol it says "ImPS/2"10:42
ahsmi have a wireless optical usb mouse10:42
ahsmshould i put ExplorerPS/2?10:42
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: here it is : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/668810:42
blue-frogtonyyarusso, 3 1 native, 1 ndiswrapper 1 don't work at all10:42
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tonyyarussoblue-frog, Ah.  Well, I guess that's not so bad really.10:43
blue-frogtonyyarusso, sry 1 don't work at all not true.. should have added so far10:44
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tonyyarussoblue-frog, Still trying on that one right now?10:44
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, at the end of lines 20 and 21 and 36 and 37 add a space and the word multiverse than apt-get update10:44
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blue-frogtonyyarusso, no i have to give it an eye someday. have other things to do10:44
tonyyarussoblue-frog, I see.10:45
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tonyyarussoMy Recent Documents list isn't loading, anyone know why?10:45
ahsmgrayman_, i edited, how do i save it?10:46
tonyyarussoIt finally loaded after I opened one of the documents that should have been on it through my Home folder.10:47
grayman_ahsm esc to exit edit mode and then :w10:47
grayman_ahsm :wq to save and exit10:47
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errordeveloperhi ppl10:47
psycosegrayman_, :x is the same ;-)10:47
errordeveloperwhere do  u usualy get skype for ubuntu?10:48
gnomefreakubotu tell Java_the_Hutt about Seveas10:48
grayman_PsyberOne, whatever :P10:48
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grayman_psycose, whatever10:48
ahsmgrayman_, it says the file is read only10:48
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Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: brought some extra packages10:48
spacey_kiubotu tell spacey_ki about Seveas10:48
grayman_ahsm, you need to open it using sudo10:48
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: but still same10:48
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, the message ubotu sent you add the .deb.all repo to your list also10:48
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pvhHello, I'm having trouble building a package which requires wxWidgets 2.6.1.10:49
psycoseahsm, be carfull if it's an ubuntu system file .. you should not edit it ...10:49
ahsmgrayman_, i dont know my password, installtion never asked me :(10:49
derek_djonsquit10:49
grayman_ahsm, how did you log then?10:49
ahsmwith my user account10:49
grayman_ahsm, its the same password that you use now10:49
ahsmoh10:49
ahsm:)10:49
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ahsmforgive me, im a complete noob with linux10:49
pvhI installed libwxgtk2.6, but I couldn't find libwxbase2.6 to correspond to it... Have those packages merged?10:49
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=== gnomefreak brb
grayman_ahsm, everyone at some point10:50
grayman_ahsm, normal user dont have a premission to write global conf files10:50
errordeveloperguys! who is using skype??10:50
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grayman_ahsm, so use sudo to do that10:50
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ilba7rerrordeveloper,10:50
ahsmgrayman_, ok so i open terminal, and type sudo?10:50
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: isn't it strange that i dont have some packages10:51
errordeveloperilba7r>~ where did u get the package?10:51
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grayman_ahsm, sudo vim file10:51
psycoseahsm, what file to you want to modify ?10:51
ilba7r!sevas10:51
ubotuilba7r: Not a clue10:51
ilba7r!seveas10:51
ubotuI heard seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:51
ilba7rthere is where i got it10:51
psycoseerrordeveloper, me10:51
ahsmpsycose, X86Config-4 for my mouse settings10:51
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: can i ask you to post your sources, may be it is because of mirrorrs10:51
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psycoseahsm, oh ok good luck ;-)10:52
bungholehow does one pronounse unbuntu10:52
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt,  yes give me a sec10:52
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ahsmpsycose, thanks :) i hope it works10:52
bungholepronouce*10:52
ColonelPaniqueooh bun too ?10:52
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ColonelPaniqueor ooh boon too ?  something like that10:52
bungholebun as in bread bun or like bon boon kinda10:52
jendabunghole: oo-boon-to10:52
bungholeahh oh ok10:52
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qwefmy volume worked great and then i rebooted and now it's gone10:53
Dariuss*newbie needs help with install, anyone available?10:53
qwefapparently alsaconf doesn't work in ubuntu10:53
qwefany suggestions on how i can troubleshoot my sound?10:53
CanYouHelpMePlzalsamixer10:53
bungholeqwef, modprobe alsa, in case it isn't loaded, and install alsamixergui10:53
JDahlDariuss, you'll get more help if you ask specific questions10:53
topyli!anyone10:53
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>10:53
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6381 there you go :)10:53
ahsmok i edited file10:53
ahsmbrb10:53
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bungholelol Java_the_Hutt10:54
qwefmodule alsa not found it says10:54
errordeveloperilba7r>~ i mean.. i dont need it , i need to sovle my brothers problem , it asks him for libdc++ ..10:54
bungholethats funny10:54
The_Cr0w87boni boni10:54
The_Cr0w87ndo sto?10:54
ilba7rerrordeveloper, did he install from source10:54
oskar_Does anyone in here know how to get dual displays with ubuntu?10:54
The_Cr0w87...10:54
The_Cr0w87capirai...10:54
The_Cr0w87in inglese....10:54
Dariussis it possible to turn a usb flash drive into a ubuntu install boot disk?10:54
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trappistDariuss: not yet10:54
errordeveloperilba7r>~ obviously he didnt10:54
gnomefreakubotu tell Dariuss about install10:55
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merlyi still see only snow or junk when i do startx  - - lspci says the video device is intel 82810. i do not know how to setup x.org10:55
gnomefreakoops nb10:55
gnomefreaknm10:55
errordeveloperilba7r>~ ... ok ill try to explain him how to it, i might find where the libdc is ..10:55
ilba7rerrordeveloper, seveas reops has the deb file easier to install do not know really which package have libdc++ but let me check10:55
trappistmerly: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:55
derek_djonsilba7r, I've deinstallad automatix and everything is fine now :) thnx for your time and input :)10:55
gnomefreakDariuss, forget that message10:55
merlytrappist - i have done that i don't know the right settings10:55
topylierrordeveloper: is he installing valknut from source?10:55
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Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: thanks there are lots of non ubuntu repos here, are they all stable ?10:55
merlytrappist - i tried a few times, just get different snow10:55
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ilba7rderek_djons, great it went well with you :)10:55
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Dariusshmmm...would i be better off trying to install over lan?10:56
errordevelopertopyli>~ no, i hardly explained how to unpack a statick binary10:56
qwefi have all my volumes unmuted on alsamixer and modprobe can not find alsa10:56
IdleOne!javadebs10:56
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy10:56
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StarKruzrhas anyone here been successful using netinstall?10:56
StarKruzrvia PXE?10:56
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errordevelopertopyli>~ i would go via ssh, but proxy is on the way!10:57
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gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, ok this is what you should do ill have bot send you a link fill out the page and it will give you a sources list just delete oyours and add the new ones10:57
topylierrordeveloper: well, static binaries should not really depend on much of anything10:57
gnomefreak!tell Java_the_Hutt about easysource10:57
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topylierrordeveloper: searching for libdc shows a few packages though, so he may want to try installing them10:57
Java_the_Huttgnomefreak: i was just about to use yours10:57
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, that will give you 955 of my list10:58
errordevelopertopyli>~ .. i havent got any libdc++ at all , and the same  tarbal works alright on my slackware box10:58
gnomefreak95%*10:58
StarKruzrI followed the directions on the Wiki about installing via a netboot image to the letter and right before it starts pulling down packages after it reboots the system, it says "one more more packages could not be obtained" or something, and kicks me out to a login prompt without having even installed ubuntu-base completely.  this has happened 5 times now.  what am I doing wrong?10:58
ahsmok im back10:58
gnomefreakJava_the_Hutt, im missing Seveas repo in my list10:58
qwefwhat is the equilvalent ot alsaconf10:58
ahsmnice, now my mouse works properlly, but not because i edited that file10:58
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topylierrordeveloper: yes true, i only got those results searching for libdc, not libdc++10:58
psycosemerly does dmesg command print out any interesting info after X failed ?10:58
ilba7rerrordeveloper, could not find the lib sorry10:59
SWATIf I want to run a script (like to start/load something at system startup that uses IPtables) can/must I put that in /etc/rc5.d/  ?10:59
errordeveloperilba7r>~ no worries, thanx any way10:59
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ahsmbrb10:59
tonyyarussoCan I use the dpkg --get-selections / --set-selections capability for only some packages?  For instance, creating a file of a few packages you'd like to recommend to a friend, and being able to e-mail them that file, and then have them use it to easily install anything you had suggested?11:00
merlypsycose - i get a lot of atckb.c errors11:00
merlypsycose - nothing looks like video to me11:00
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StarKruzr(incidentally, doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop after it kicks me out does not fix the problem, because X is broken after doing that)11:00
topylierrordeveloper: searching for libdc++, i get some results too. they're from universe11:00
errordevelopertopyli>~ .. thanxz, i'll try again later on :))11:01
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Sonderbladehow do you upgrade from breezy to dapper?11:01
hikenbootdoes anyone have a solution to this problem The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. ubuntu11:01
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psycosemerly, try adding:      Option      "NoInt10"           to the device section, well i don't know if it will help but may be ;-)11:02
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Sonderbladehikenboot: remove it from xorg.conf11:02
psycosemerly,  in your X config file ...11:02
tonyyarussoWhat happens if you do a Breezy install without an internet connection?  Can everything be taken care of through an apt-get upgrade later when you do have one, or will something be missed?11:03
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errordeveloperhikenboot>~ ..)) i know11:03
mhshello11:03
topylitonyyarusso: create a metapackage called tonys-recommendations or something that depends on your favorites11:03
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mhs0any1 here plays quake3 :P11:03
echeese:/11:03
echeeseAnyone had success with PSP on ubuntu?11:04
hikenbootalso getting the same for a CID directory and /x-ttcidfont-conf should i remove them as well11:04
tonyyarussotopyli, How would I do that?  (Still relatively new to a lot of these concepts.)11:04
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echeeseI write files to the drive11:04
echeeseAnd they don't show up11:04
errordeveloperto get Cyrilic characters alright - add the path to /etc/font.conf ..or something like that11:04
topylitonyyarusso: i have no idea. :) Seveas, how did you create your metapackages?11:04
merlypsycose - i went throguh dpkg-reconfigure and took int10 off. same result, snow11:04
nmsasomeone using ubuntu as print server? I cant find the printer in Xp11:04
hikenbooti am trying to look for a root cause why my working x wouldnt start after installing a xen kernel even on the old one11:04
nmsaelse, from Ubuntu how do you print photos?11:05
topylitonyyarusso: i might do the same thing myself :)11:05
StarKruzrso nobody has any idea why my netboot-from-Windows install is exploding for no discernable reason?11:05
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jendaIs there a place I can check for suggestions of what to do on a newly installed system?11:05
Hawk|--mhh11:05
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Hawk|--mist wlan router11:05
tonyyarussotopyli, It would be a handy thing.  I'm guessing not very difficult either, if someone here can tell us how it works.11:06
nmsajenda: ubuntuguide.org11:06
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timfrostnmsa, Yes.  You have to change cupsd.copnf, so that it listens on the network (default is to only listen on 127.0.0.1 loopback interface)11:06
psycosemerly, do you know if the live CD run X well ?11:06
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Hobbsee!tell jenda about ubuntuguide11:06
kcantinlist11:06
Hobbsee!tell nmsa  about ubuntuguide11:06
jendanmsa: I was thinking a little less basic :)11:06
nmsatimfrost: I have it on 192.168.0.*11:06
djm62jenda: you can do anything...try searching packages for any interests...you can discover cool stuff11:06
kcantinhello11:06
lemurso, I accidentally installed the amd64 version on a xeon system.  It appears to be working, but should I be worried?11:06
kcantinhello11:07
errordeveloperkcantin>~ hi11:07
errordeveloperwhats up?11:07
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tonyyarusso!metapackage11:07
ubotuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.11:07
kcantincan anyone help me connect to my windows newtork?11:07
topylitonyyarusso: i might want to make a metapackage for my ubuntu-using colleagues at work, so they would have all they need11:07
errordeveloperkcantin>~ smb11:07
errordevelopersamba11:07
tonyyarussotopyli, Right.11:07
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kcantinI instaled it but, now I get errors11:07
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qwefi recently put a joystick in to my usb device should this conflict with alsa?11:08
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MorphOhi all does anyone speak french here11:08
IdleOnemoritz,  oui11:09
IdleOneoops11:09
IdleOneMorphO,  oui11:09
kcantinIt says that I do not have the permissions to access windows netowrk11:09
MorphOsalut idleone11:09
IdleOnesalut11:09
MorphOmerci pour ta reaction11:09
IdleOnepas de probleme11:09
MorphOj'ai besoin d'information11:09
C-O-L-TI use both KDE and GNOME with ubuntu, how can I make to play any audio with rythmbox, I can play mp3, everything with amarok but I can not play anything with rythmbox.11:09
C-O-L-Topinion11:09
MorphOj'ai fais quelque recherche mais je ne suis pas sur11:09
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IdleOnej'vais asseyaer11:09
MorphOje voudrais installer la nouvelle version de amsn11:10
MalachiHow can I get GDesklets to start up when I boot Linux?11:10
djm62!fr11:10
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:10
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ilba7rC-O-L-T, do you have totem-xine installed what type of codec you have the freeformats or wincodec11:10
topyliC-O-L-T: install gstreamer0.8-mad to get mp3 for rhythmbox11:10
MorphOcelle sur le miroir de apt n'est pas la dernire version11:10
alexander_Hi! I have just installed ubuntu(gnome, and first time i ever have tried linux), and have a small problem.... I accedently shoose wrong reselution in the instalation, and know I wanna change it from 1024x768 to 1280x1024. I Have tried to serch on google but didn't find anyting. btw sry for my bad english (I'm from Finland (so I speak swedish) and I'm oly 15)11:10
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MorphOj'ai donc tlcharger les source11:10
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C-O-L-Trlibra: yes totem works fine with xine11:10
MorphOcependant je voudrais crer un paquer11:10
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MorphOpaquet11:10
IdleOnehmmmmmmm11:11
C-O-L-Ttopyli: ok how can i do that from synaptic?11:11
ilba7rMalachi, gdesklets is run from the startup script. so depend what are you using gnome, kde fluxbox?11:11
MorphOpour ensuite l'installer et dsinstaller sans trop mettre la merde11:11
IdleOnecan anybody tell MorphO  how to install from source file?11:11
Malachignome.11:11
djm62il y a un fichier "debian"?11:11
topyliC-O-L-T: search for gstreamer0.8-mad and click to install :)11:11
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MorphOj'aime mon systeme le plus clean que possible11:11
Malachiilba7r, I thought this was the ubuntu channel, so I assumed gnome....11:11
timfrostalexander_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  Add 1280x1024 to the mode list11:11
kcantincan anyone assist me in connecting to my windows network?11:11
kcantinI already installed samba11:11
ilba7rMalachi, system>prefrences>session>startup programs and add gdesklets11:11
MorphOconnais tu une rfrence quelque pars ou je pourrais avoir l'information11:12
MalachiOkay.11:12
ilba7ror you can right click on the panel and add it11:12
kcantinI believe  I installed samba anyway11:12
ilba7r!fr11:12
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:12
C-O-L-Ttopyli: I have all the gstreamer installed11:12
skeggianessuno mi s dire come si installa skype?11:12
MorphOmerci11:12
Malachiilba7r, what about the order?11:12
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IdleOneMorphO,  je crois que #ubuntu-fr va pouvoir t'aider mieux11:13
ZugwrackHey everyone11:13
ilba7rMalachi, the default is ok 5011:13
djm62c'est vrai11:13
tonyyarusso!createmetapackage11:13
ubotuWish i knew, tonyyarusso11:13
topyliC-O-L-T: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?11:13
kcantinI can see the othe computer in networking but, it says that I do not have permissions to access the windows network11:13
tonyyarusso!createpackage11:13
ubotuWish i knew, tonyyarusso11:13
tonyyarusso!makepackage11:13
ubotutonyyarusso: I don't know, could you explain it?11:13
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: I use Kubuntu but I have GNOME too, in Kubuntu KDE is enabled and everything works fine11:14
ZugwrackAnyone here familiar with running Ubuntu under VMWare?11:14
tonyyarussoHrm, does someone know what I'm trying to ubotu for?11:14
C-O-L-Ttopyli: I have to make here too11:14
kcantinno, universe and multi-supository?11:14
psycoseMorphO, sur le site http://amsn.sourceforge.net/ tu peux telecharge le package debian de amsn et puis tu l'install avec $ sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>11:14
ilba7rtonyyarusso, type /msg ubotu and then play till you find the command you need11:14
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tonyyarussoilba7r, Am trying that now, running out of ideas soon though.11:14
ilba7rtonyyarusso, try the forums11:15
djm62tonyyarusso: :) every search thing becomes a verb now? I'm not sure how you'd create a metapackage...11:15
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Zugwrack!FreeFormats11:15
ubotufreeformats is probably There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats11:15
topyliC-O-L-T: if gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't seem to be available in synaptic, then you probably don't have all the needed repositories. enable them11:15
DDTahi11:15
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jendahello DDTa11:16
C-O-L-Ttopyli: I have everything enabled. If I use amarok in GNOME too I can play eevry media11:16
C-O-L-Ttopyli: what should I do11:16
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Eugman!terminal11:17
Zugwrackanyone have information on how to mount the linux .iso under VMWare to let me install the vmware-tools additions?11:17
topyliC-O-L-T: could you paste your sources.list to the pastebin?11:17
kcantinI don't want to sound redundant here but, can anyone possibly help me connect to my windows netowrk?11:17
Eugman!command line11:17
ubotuWish i knew, Eugman11:17
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Eugman!command11:17
ubotuEugman: I don't know, could you explain it?11:17
C-O-L-Ttopyli: I am a new linux user. I use linux for 3 months. :) how can i do that?11:18
Eugman!commandline11:18
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Eugman11:18
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psycoseZugwrack, have you tried the new free vmware player ?11:18
Eugman!commands11:18
ubotucommands is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/11:18
DDTajenda do you know ethical software?11:18
topylitonyyarusso: please see http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ and look especially at chapter 411:18
ranE_hello.. Which ubuntu thing should I download?11:18
tonyyarussotopyli, Thanks.11:18
jendaDDTa: not sure (i.e., probably not) What do you mean?11:18
Eugmanprobably the i368 one11:18
ranE_sure?11:18
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EugmanranE11:18
ZugwrackYes...but I have the full version now..11:18
C-O-L-Ttopyli: I have opened the pastebin, how I paste my sources list11:19
DDTajenda www.ethicalsoftware.org there is a license...11:19
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Storkproblems:11:19
StorkE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)11:19
StorkE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?11:19
EugmanWell do you have a mac or 64 hardware running? If not I'd say yes.11:19
Zugwrackpsycose: The player works fine though too!11:19
EugmanDo you know how to burn an iso rane?11:19
ilba7rstrok stick sudo infront of your apt-get command and close synaptic if it is opened11:19
topyliC-O-L-T: open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, and select everything. press copy. paste into the window in your browser11:20
ZugwrackThe image provided cannot really do all the updates..at least they failed when I tried...however now using the full VMWare it installed and upgraded ok11:20
Storkgood point11:20
topyli!pastebin11:20
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:20
tonyyarussoHow do I view the long description of a package?11:20
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topylihrm. where is seveas' nice pastebin script?11:20
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timfrostZugwrack, the VM menu has option "Install VMWare tools".  Is that what you want?11:20
jendaDDTa: What's the difference between that and GPL? The four basic freedoms are equal.11:21
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/669311:21
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: help me please11:22
SenayB0x0rhow do i mount/format/add another drive to my system in ubuntu11:22
djm62tonyyarusso: apt-cache show packagenameyouwant11:22
tonyyarussodjm62, Thanks.11:22
SenayB0x0ranyone?11:23
djm62SenayB0x0r: a hot-pluggable one?11:23
topyliC-O-L-T: strange. you have universe enabled, and my gstreamer0.8-mad packages seems to come from universe11:23
topylii'm stunned11:23
SenayB0x0rnah, just a regular ata100 hd11:24
SenayB0x0ride11:24
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: what to do than11:24
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Zugwracktimfrost: Well that is the start from the vmware website...I have to start that and then go into the console in Ubuntu and mount the .iso image for linux...then I can copy the tarball to my /home dir and proceed to install them...11:24
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: there are no problems with alsa sytem or oss11:24
C-O-L-Tor so on11:24
C-O-L-Ttopyli: in kde alsa works fine11:25
gnomefreaktopyli, what about Seveas repo for gstreamer?11:25
topyliC-O-L-T: does your rhythmbox play other files fine? like oggs?11:25
SenayB0x0rdjm62, is there a command or gui way to format and mount the HD11:25
C-O-L-Ttopyli: but here when i want to test the pipeline i can get any sound11:25
topylignomefreak: what about it? :)11:25
lowman62hey gnomefreak11:25
C-O-L-Ttopyli: i will see11:25
VincentHi, I can connect to irc, but only to irc (no firefox, no http, nothing, no apt-get update...) has someone a clue about this ?11:25
gnomefreakgrab gstreamer from there?11:26
ZugwrackIs there perhaps a way to mount the .iso using the mount command? Using fstype?11:26
gnomefreakif multi isnt installing it?11:26
djm62SenayB0x0r: ummm. there is.  what position is it (master slave first second)?11:26
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topylignomefreak: what has Seveas done to gst?11:26
gnomefreakhi lowman6211:26
SenayB0x0rslave11:26
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lowman62Vincent I would check iptables to see if you have locked up some ports that are messing you up11:26
skeggianessuno parla un p di italiano?11:26
lowman62howsit going gnomefreak11:26
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SenayB0x0rdjm62, slave, well CS, but one is master so yeh, slave11:27
Vincentlowman62: I did not used iptables recently11:27
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djm62SenayB0x0r: same cable as primary master, or secondary?11:27
buellerhiya...newb gnu question11:27
ilba7r!it11:27
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:27
skeggiathx11:27
buelleror three11:27
C-O-L-Ttopyli: i can play audio with it. But I have w32codecs, enabled universe, multiuniverse11:27
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gnomefreaktopyli, nothing but its a multi-media repo im thinking since multi isnt installing it maybe his might11:27
C-O-L-Ttopyli: so what to do than11:28
lowman62Vincent: although for no certainty am i sure of this...i believe iptables installs by default and you can configure if with firestarter...have you configied around with that?11:28
gnomefreakok and you lowman6211:28
SenayB0x0rsame cable as master11:28
lowman62am good..am glad it is friday :)11:28
AstralJavaHey all, I tried this a bit earlier, but just in case someone who has the knowledge turned up after the first attempt, I'll go again: Does anyone have a clue why I can't load smsc-ircc2 module even when it seems to be the correct module for the hardware in my laptop?11:28
SenayB0x0rdjm62, yeh, same cable as master11:28
gnomefreaki wish it was monday :(11:28
djm62SenayB0x0r: that would be /dev/hdb11:28
lowman62how come gnomefreak?11:28
topyliC-O-L-T: the problem is that rhythmbox uses gstreamer for a backend. your w32codecs and such won't help there. you need gstreamer0.8-mad very urgently :)11:28
djm62SenayB0x0r: and I *think* gparted will do the job11:28
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: where and how can i install it11:29
gnomefreakschool starts :))11:29
berto-hi everyone.  is there an environment variable or configuration file that I can use to specify multiple magic files; i want to keep my own magic file instead of adding to the system one.11:29
kcantinSorry I had stepped away11:29
lowman62gnomefreak: Oh your looking forward to school huh? for your kids or you???11:29
kcantinanyone have experience connecting to a windws network?11:30
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kcantinI already have sabma installed...I thinmk11:30
lowman62kcantin: using samba?11:30
kcantinyes, I guess11:30
gnomefreakah i got gstreamer0.8-mad from cipherfunk repo11:30
cdubyakcantin, yep11:30
kcantinwhat are my other options?11:30
ilba7rC-O-L-T, try removing ro. from your source file. The mirror might not have everything you want11:30
gnomefreaklowman62, for me11:30
topyliC-O-L-T: you can get the package from here for example: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-plugins0.8/11:30
gnomefreaki love school :)11:31
lowman62kcantin: have your setup a workgroup and all that ??11:31
topyliC-O-L-T: but i seriously don't understand why it doesn't show up in your synaptic. try pressing the "reload" button and search again please11:31
ilba7rC-O-L-T, use deb http"//archive.ubuntu.com directly11:31
lowman62lowman62 = lowman1962 ...I can't remember school gnomefreak LOL11:31
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cdubyaheh11:32
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gnomefreaklol11:32
cdubyaI wish I was out.11:32
cdubyaI'd much rather work11:32
topyliC-O-L-T: ilba7r might have an idea there, it may be that your local mirror is out of sync11:32
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lowman62cdubya: exacry how i felt when i was in school...wish i had of stuck it out tho ;)11:32
C-O-L-Ttopyli: i am reloading synaptic now11:32
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cdubyalowman62, yeah, me too, that's why I'm finishing up at 35.......11:33
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Storkhow can i install wine on a 64-bit architecture?11:33
C-O-L-Ttopyli: lets see what happens11:33
lowman62gnomefreak: good for you ...keep on keepin on..will definitely pay off11:33
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gnomefreak!wine11:33
gnomefreaklowman62, thats what i figured too11:34
cdubyakcantin, have you done what lowman62 asked you?11:34
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gnomefreakubotu tell Stork about wine11:34
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topylignomefreak: brain hacking11:34
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kcantinI believe so11:34
lowman62ya cdubya: I ended up going back in my 30's too..got a crummy degree in music...broke my hands snowboarding and now can't play guitar anymore LOL...all well11:34
skeggiasorry puoi ridirmi l'indirizzo per un server in italiano?11:34
kcantinI have a home network and mshome11:34
cdubyaouch.....:)11:34
gnomefreaklol11:34
PuMpErNiCkLe!it11:35
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:35
C-O-L-Ttopyli: it downloads a lot of things with reloading synaptic11:35
lowman62cdubya: I can still snowboard though LOL although not where I live now11:35
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topyliC-O-L-T: good11:35
cdubyalowman62, I'm getting it in CIS, though I suspect I'm going to drive anywhere I want to get a good job11:35
cdubyalowman62, heh11:35
kcantincan you email to : kcantin@sbcglobal.net?11:35
gnomefreaklater all11:35
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kcantinI just get a permision denied when I try accessing the windows network11:36
kcantinI can see the client machine though11:36
lowman62cdubya: I work from home as a contract programmer ;)11:36
cdubyakcantin, did you do smbpasswd?11:36
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: i have found now in adept gstreamer mad11:36
kcantinI think so11:36
cdubyalowman62, sweet, what language(s)?11:36
lowman62can chat and work at the same time...what a life11:36
kcantinlet me try again11:36
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topyliC-O-L-T: ok, you are in business then :)11:36
cdubyalowman62, that's what I'd like to end up doing....:(11:36
buellerhow do you log into file manager as sudo?11:37
cdubyalowman62, but I don't know it'll happen where I live....very small town11:37
lowman62cdubya: mostly c but am know to use python, java and any other that a prospective client is wanting to be used11:37
C-O-L-Ttopyli: i have installed it11:37
buelleri have 9 xorg.conf files11:37
C-O-L-Ttopyli: now i should try it11:37
AMCDeathKnightThe proper Ubuntu has been removed from grub. Im in the recovery one atm. This is my menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/494127 Cans omeone help me put the normal Ubuntu back to Grub so i can boot into it plwease11:37
cdubyalowman62, kewl. love c. Java and I have no relationship whatsoever since we met.11:37
buellerand i need to delete some so I can get my screen out of 640-48011:37
topylilowman62: i study online work, my data comes largely from irc and mailing lists. life is good :)11:37
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buellerany ideas...or do i have invisible font11:38
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lowman62cdubya: I believe java is still in its infancy stage and is not as useful as they claim it to be...but i so do enjoy their version numbering LOL11:38
cdubyaheh11:38
cdubyayeah11:38
C-O-L-Ttopyli: what to do, I tried to play mp3 with rythmbox but it has written to me This is not an audio stream11:38
cdubyaI just found it to be a bit clunky11:38
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cdubyabut I'm still learning....11:38
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: The only xorg.conf that matters is the one called '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' - any others are ignored.11:39
bxburnetti can't get my wi-fi or bluetooth mouse to function, drivers?11:39
topyliC-O-L-T: and this happens with any mp3 file? (just checking it's not the file's fault)11:39
buelleris it possible to delete the old ones in file manager11:39
AMCDeathKnightThe proper Ubuntu has been removed from grub. Im in the recovery one atm. This is my menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/494127 Cans someone help me put the normal Ubuntu back to Grub so i can boot into it please11:39
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: Yeah.11:39
lowman62cdubya: clunky and flakey...but if that is what the customer wants (clunky and flakey) I  don't mind...at least i don't have to think about pointers and such then LOL11:39
C-O-L-Ttopyli: this happens with every mp3 file11:39
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cdubyaheh....yeah, no pointers, right....? ;)11:39
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PuMpErNiCkLebueller: But it's even easier to just do 'sudo rm /path/to/unusedxorg.conf'11:39
cdubyaREFERENCE VARIABLES == POINTERS.....11:40
cdubyaheh11:40
Mackie-will i have wifi capabilities with ubuntu???11:40
topyliC-O-L-T: this is too strange for me. anyone else?11:40
ranE_what's the difference between those ISO files?11:40
Mackie-help!11:40
cdubyaat least they don't call them that11:40
buelleralso i did the fixvideoresolution steps in the wiki resolution still way to low11:40
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lowman62cdubya: have you ever looked at the java api...it is a hunormous mess...you need to be a philadelphia lawyer to read it11:40
prxqI am getting errors from the ubuntu installer. It allegedly writes it to /target/var/log/etc. but there is no such dir. The log dir isn't there to begin with. Any ideas?11:40
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: Can you paste your current xorg.conf file to the pastebin?11:40
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AMCDeathKnightThe proper Ubuntu has been removed from grub. Im in the recovery one atm. This is my menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/494127 Cans someone help me put the normal Ubuntu back to Grub so i can boot into it please11:41
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PuMpErNiCkLehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:41
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cdubyalowman62, pretty much, which is EXACTLY why Java and I have no relationship. I find C to be so much easier to follow and use11:41
prxqthe errors are "cannot download zlib".  for instance. What might be the problem?11:41
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prxqi hoped to get more info from the log file but ...11:41
C-O-L-Ttopyli: ??????????11:41
lowman62cdubya: true that is why I stick with it...was my first language and the only one that still makes sense to me11:41
cdubyalowman62, hadn't ever touched C++ before this last semester, but taken C and Adv C before....so I entered Adv C++ without the prereq and nailed the class....11:41
cdubyalowman62, pretty much11:42
topyliC-O-L-T: i seriously don't know. sorry :(11:42
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ilba7rAMCDeathKnight, depends on what kernel you have yo can check it under /boot directory11:42
C-O-L-Ttopyli: ok11:42
emilyWhile installing the screen went black and froze up, there was a cursor, but no keyboard response or anything.  I reboot and then when X starts it does it again, any idea how to fix this?11:42
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topyliC-O-L-T: as a workaround, use another player :)11:42
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jhenndoes dapper have its own channel?11:42
echeeseWhat can I use to play it, xm, mod and s3m?11:42
_nullWhy would my GDM not restart when I logout?11:42
cdubyalowman62, figger they really can't give me too much grief since I passed the Adv C++ with flying colors....11:42
C-O-L-Ttopyli: i wanted rythmbox, i can use amarok instead11:42
lowman62cdubya: I played with c++ but am no fan...i still can do what it can do in c11:42
AMCDeathKnight2.6.12-10-68611:42
ZugwrackI am going through the restricted installs...specifically for mplayer-flash....it errors out??11:42
buellerPumper yeah i will paste there...11:42
topyliC-O-L-T: yeah, i love rhythmbox myself11:43
michaelso, what's a link to any descent program for working with airport extreme base stations?11:43
cdubyalowman62, I like some of the stuff in C++, but C is still very close to my heart.....:)11:43
ZugwrackOops..flashplayer-mozilla11:43
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C-O-L-Ttopyli: why i can not use it :(11:43
Storkhi, what do i need to do to partition my computer? i want to split my 160gb hdd into two11:43
lowman62cdubya: that is good...learn as many as you can...and then they will lock you in a dark closet and keep you working for ever LOL...you don't mind never seeing the sun again do ya? LOL11:43
cdubyaheh11:43
cdubyayeah, my wife already loves that....11:43
prxqit succeeds setting up eth0, and the router is working. So what might be the problem?11:43
Storkanyone?11:44
lowman62ya mine too...i get are you done yet it is 6 in the morning LOL11:44
topyliAMCDeathKnight: looks like your grub is starting the default and recovery options from different partitions of your hard disk, the other is 0,1 and the other is 0,211:44
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Storkhi, what do i need to do to partition my computer? i want to split my 160gb hdd into two11:44
AMCDeathKnightSo how do I fix it?11:44
buelleranyone have a link to  pastebin11:44
lowman62have stayed up 9 days in a row once to finish a job11:44
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Storklowman62, bs, you'd die11:44
topyliAMCDeathKnight: where does your ubuntu installation really live?11:44
tenshuhi all11:44
AMCDeathKnightUmm lol11:45
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:45
Zugwrackbueller..do a !pastebin11:45
lowman62Stork: I am serious I have ..lived off coffee and cigies11:45
cdubyalowman62, heh11:45
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AMCDeathKnighthda311:45
prxqStork: fdisk11:45
buellerty11:45
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Storklowman62, right, and you're talking to us from behind the grave11:45
Storkprxq, what commands do i need to use?11:45
ilba7rAMCDeathKnight, where is you linux partition11:45
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dukebodysomebody knows how to disconnect users from my own ftp server?11:45
topyliAMCDeathKnight: ok, that's 0,2 in grub language. perhaps you have misedited the menu.lst11:45
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cdubyakcantin, you get it to work?11:46
lowman62Stork: and your being nasty to me why? because you are at home safe behind your hp computer? please...try again...and this time flush11:46
Storkdukebody, i would have thought that would depend on the server11:46
AMCDeathKnightBut the Ubuntu Recovery is 0,2?11:46
prxqStork: m to begin with.11:46
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buellerokay i pasted there11:46
prxqp is helpfull11:46
Storklowman62, don't be stupid, who has an hp computer?11:46
C-O-L-Tamarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????11:46
C-O-L-T amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????11:46
lowman62Stork: not me I build my own thank you11:46
berto-$MAGIC can contain a colon-delimited list of magic files.11:46
Storklowman62, also, because it's not humanly possible to work for 9 days without sleep11:46
Storklowman62, so do i, not bite me.11:46
topyliAMCDeathKnight: yeah, that's why it works. the recovery and default options use the same kernel, but now your default options finds nothing to boot11:46
Storknow*11:46
buelleris mp3 support easily possible in ubuntu my cds play great mp3 not at all11:47
AMCDeathKnighti c. SO they both must be: (hd0,2)?11:47
dukebodyStork, yes, i use pure-ftpd... but there isn't a way to close a remote connection to my computer (firewalls can do!)11:47
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C-O-L-T amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????11:47
C-O-L-T amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????11:47
topyliAMCDeathKnight: yes11:47
cdubyabueller, yes11:47
Storklowman62, it's not hard to build your own computer11:47
dukebodythat's a question Stork11:47
Storkdukebody, good point11:47
buellerdo you have a link?11:47
AMCDeathKnightgot ya ok fixed and will reboot and try11:47
butcherbirdbueller: see wiki.ubuntu.com search for mp311:47
cdubya!restrictedformats11:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:47
AMCDeathKnightThanks :-)11:47
liableC-O-L-T: excessive punctuation like that is very annoying, as is asking twice in 30 seconds.11:47
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lowman62Stork: once upon a time i was a truck driver...I stayed up lots of times...have the samsonite lugage to prove it under my eyes..so do me a favor lil person...climb back into your creepy lil porn site and stay there I was not talking to you anyways...flush!11:48
Andrew[CS] wuts the command to install suff again11:48
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: I found the problem, and I'm going to paste an update version of your xorg.conf file that fixes it.11:48
cdubyabueller, that should do it.11:48
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topyliAndrew[CS] : sudo apt-get install "stuff"11:48
kameroni was reading here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba but it only shows a deb file for x86. can i get win32codecs for amd64?11:48
Andrew[CS] ty11:48
preglowi get a nice little error when trying to compile any program in my brand new breezy install: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory11:48
lowman62Stork: Dork!11:48
C-O-L-Tliable: a lot of people are writing here, and in a few moments my message becomes unvisible11:48
preglowany pointers on how to fix this?11:48
Storklowman62, what the hell is "flush"? go build a crappy computer, loser.11:48
dukebodywhat, Stork ??? sorry i'm spanish11:48
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PuMpErNiCkLebueller: You want 1024x768, right?11:48
Motoko-chan...11:49
Andrew[CS] sudo apt-get install ??11:49
topyliyes11:49
buelleryes pump11:49
lowman62Stork: come to my house and say that to my face lil person...don't hide behind your lil cheesy emachine and blabber crap...make yourself appear in person then we will see11:49
trappistpreglow: sudo apt-get install build-essential (that particular file belongs to libc6-dev)11:49
Andrew[CS] and Pumpernickel, i want a res like that11:49
buellerwow im getting excited11:49
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Andrew[CS] the max i can get it 800*600 *cries*11:49
Zugwrack!pastebin11:49
ubotumethinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:49
bueller<----has been trying for a few hours11:49
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buellerto get resolution fixed11:50
Storklowman62, stop being an e-thug. Go clean your glasses or something.11:50
kameronanyone get win32codecs working with amd64?11:50
preglowtrappist: how come that isn't a dependency? not requiring crt1.o in a working c install is... strange...11:50
ChousukeStork: lowman62: Stop.11:50
tenshuHello all , actually the great remote controller from ATI: remote wonder had some bug (incorrect/unrecognized key). I help giving info on Bugzilla, but nobody seems to be interested in. Who should I contact in dapper devellopers to help?11:50
tenshuexcuse my english i'm french11:50
lowman62Stork: although I wonder why i am wating my time talking to you..I am now giving up..you are now a waste of skin...flush11:50
kremonte!fr11:50
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:50
Motoko-chankameron, I don't think they will work.11:50
preglowtrappist: thanks anyway, worked like a charm11:50
Motoko-chanThey are 32-bit binaries.11:50
ZugwrackWould someone please advise on this error that I am getting? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/669511:50
Storklowman62, what the hell is "flush" ?11:51
trappistpreglow: what's a "working c install"?  the idea is that most users aren't going to be doing a lot of compiling.  for those who do, the build-essential metapackage is conveniently provided.11:51
Andrew[CS] the max i can get it 800*600 *cries*\11:51
Andrew[CS] sudo apt-get install ??11:51
Andrew[CS] sudo apt-get install ??11:51
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: Posted in the pastebin. :)11:51
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Motoko-chanAnd since they are closed-source, we are unlikely to get 64-bit quickly.11:51
_max_jesus wtf man11:51
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lowman62Chousuke: have stopped am ignoring fluffy bunny in the room11:51
_max_stop repeating you fucking idiot11:51
yggdrasilhello gents11:51
ranE_what's the difference between those ISO files?11:51
buellerpumper ty ...11:51
yggdrasili seemed to have messe up my repositories11:51
preglowtrappist: not exactly cleverly worded by my part, no, i'm tired. anywho, i just wondered why build-essential isn't depended on by the gcc packages, it makes sense for it to be11:51
yggdrasilhow can i fix the file ?11:51
Motoko-chanranE_, which files?11:51
lowman62_max_: take a pill or something11:51
Motoko-chanYou need to be a bit more detailed.11:51
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ranE_ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/5.10/11:51
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: Make sure the numbers along the side don't show up in the textfile you use as your xorg.conf.11:52
ranE_which?11:52
thomashaukMy iPod and flash memory stick will not mount. Both USB.11:52
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butcherbirdyggdrasil: breezy?11:52
_max_Andrew[CS]  if you expect to get help in a linux channel state a proper question, wait atleast 10 minutes before asking again and dont spam.11:52
mweyggdrasil: you have to make a new one. next time please back it up before messing with it11:52
Motoko-chanThey seem labeled fie to me11:52
yggdrasilbutcherbird yea11:52
iKrnelHi guys. This is my first time using ubuntu, I must say, it is pretty fast! :D11:52
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trappistpreglow: it's possible to compile ye olde c app without all the stuff in build-essential.  it would suck to have to install all that, if I didn't want to, just to compile my hello world.11:52
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mweyggdrasil: pastebin it and i'll clean it up for you11:52
Motoko-chanubuntu-version-type-arch.iso11:52
buellerhow to replace pumper?11:52
lowman62_max_: RTFM <--there that used to be the most common response geesh chill out11:53
Bjelleklangdoes anyone know about some kind of text-based hardware monitor?11:53
yggdrasilmwe ok11:53
Bjelleklangthat can be used from ssh?11:53
preglowtrappist: you can't compile any c program without the c runtime libs, hello world included11:53
iKrnelBut I have a problem. I don't know what the default root password is. I don't have an ubuntu manual, and the wiki didn't help. Can anybody help me?11:53
jhennis there a way to downgrade from dapper to breezy?11:53
Motoko-chanBjelleklang, depends on what the hardware is.11:53
david1hey, does anyone know if it's possible to make animated gifs using gimp?11:53
_max_free~lowman62: problem is linux newbies dont know what RTFM stands for so you gotta slap the basics nowdays.11:53
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kameronMotoko-chan that's BS man. there's got to be some way to get win32codecs working in my amd64 install11:53
jhenniKrnel: sudo -s11:53
mwejhenn: yeah. reformat and install over :)11:53
Motoko-chankameron, have fun.11:53
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janolidapper is the lastest ?11:53
trappistpreglow: you mean without the headers?  I s'pose that's true, unless you write your own, which is not unheard of11:53
Motoko-chanNote the 32 part11:53
Motoko-chan32-bit11:53
Andrew[CS] dambitg11:53
kameronMotoko-chan haha, thanks man. i hope i'll find a way.11:54
iKrneljhenn: It wants me to type in the password for root.11:54
Motoko-chanIf you are native 64-bit, it won't work.11:54
rjbhi folks, is an AMD Turion a k8?11:54
iKrneljhenn: ...which I don't have...11:54
preglowtrappist: this wasn't the headers, this was the c runtime. the very code that actually calls main()11:54
jhenniKrnel: type the user password11:54
iKrnelwhoa that's hax!11:54
Motoko-chanrjb, cat /proc/cpuinfo11:54
Bjelleklanghad a look at lm_sensors, but couldn't get it up and running11:54
lowman62_max_: exactly what my point was...they are newbies and nothing turns a newbie off a new thing more than someone bulling them...try being nicer you get more for less11:54
Storkhi, can anyone tell me the commands i'd need to split my hdd into two parts (80gb, and 80gb) while keeping my current data?11:54
jhenniKrnel: if its not your machine  your not going to be able to and I'm not going to help you break into it11:54
IdleOnehow do i install libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libstdc++5 ?11:54
rjbMotoko-chan, and..?11:54
iKrneljhenn: Anyway to disable that option?11:54
trappistpreglow: I'm not a big c guy, but if that's the code that calls main() how does anything run, let alone compile, without it?11:54
Motoko-chanLook at the output11:54
Bjelleklangand don't have access to the gui...11:54
jhenniKrnel: what option?11:54
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: copy it, save it in a file called 'xorg.conf' in your home folder, and then run 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup && sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf'11:55
_max_lowman62 i dont care for being nice to people who can't act more mature than a 13 year old on crack.11:55
mweStork: um you need parted I think11:55
preglowtrappist: that's the deal, it didn't :) i got errors whenever i tried to compile something11:55
iKrneljhenn: sudo -s. Lets you become root without the root password. I don't like it.11:55
ZugwrackIdleOne...checkout restricted...it will install some of what you want...with command line information11:55
lowman62_max_: I want the world to use linux and send billy bouy gate high steppin11:55
rjbwow i sort of guessed I should look at it, but it doesn't answer my question11:55
mweStork: but I think you need to run it from a live-cd11:55
Storki don't understand partitions, lol11:55
jhenniKrnel: just make sure other users aren't in the sudoers file11:55
Motoko-chanIt should say in there somewhere...11:55
IdleOneZugwrack,  restricted?11:55
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: And make sure when you copy it, you don't copy the numbers along the left-hand side. :)11:55
Motoko-chanI don't have an AMD handy to check.11:55
iKrneljhenn: Ah, good point.11:55
_max_free~lowman62: nothing would please me more than the world to use opensource but they need to go a course in decent behaviour11:55
_max_linux channels used to be filled with intelligent well stated questions.11:55
rjbcpu family      : 1511:56
rjbmodel           : 3611:56
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_max_not spam with "speedtalk" and other crap thats not readible or hurts your eyes.11:56
yggdrasilmwe its done11:56
iKrneljhenn: This is most probably a dumb question, but how do I find out the root password from here?11:56
Storkbrb, booting from livecd so i can partition!11:56
rjbthat's what it says11:56
mweyggdrasil: where did you paste it?11:56
Telemachus_max_ :  I toatally agree with you11:56
lowman62_max_: respect ...I understand and you are right...just that they are a newbie and don't know the rules just like you once upon a time didn't11:56
jhenniKrnel: there is no root password11:56
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rjbnothing about k8 or k-anything11:56
ZugwrackIdleOne: Just issue this command and read... !restricted11:56
iKrneljhenn: Ah. Well, I'll have to set one...11:56
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IdleOne!restricted11:57
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:57
preglowtrappist: anywho, i just think it's curious. everything works just fine and dandy now, thanks again11:57
buellercopy it, save it in a file called 'xorg.conf' in your home folder, and then run 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup && sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf'11:57
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IdleOnety11:57
buelleris the && syntax?11:57
_max_lowman62 i never spammed a channel with crap ;) i once saw a bot where you could get it to pm someone "how to aproprietly ask something in a linux channel" should bring one in here ;p11:57
jhenn!root11:57
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:57
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jhenniKrnel: ^^11:57
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PuMpErNiCkLebueller: And to start using the new xorg.conf, hit ctrl-alt-backspace (NOTE: this will quit any graphical applications you have running.)11:57
Andrew[CS] !amsn11:57
ubotuit has been said that amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net11:57
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: yes11:57
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buellerk ;)11:57
kemik!tell _max_ about coc11:57
cyphasehas anyone gotten their breezy cd's yet?11:57
Andrew[CS] but no, ubuntu11:58
greenpenguin13ages ago11:58
Andrew[CS] doesn't have that version11:58
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Motoko-chanrjb, I looked it up and I see that any of the AMD chips supporting 64-bit is a K811:58
_max_thanks kemik :)11:58
kemikAndrew[CS] :  either you stick with what's in the repositories, or you have to compile it yourself (at your own peril)11:58
Motoko-chanThe Turion64 is.11:58
rikaibrb, installing memory <.<;11:58
mwecyphase: I heard someone from sweden got em in a few days11:58
rjbok so linux-image-k8 might work better than linux-image-amd64-generic?11:59
Motoko-chanMight.11:59
lowman62_max_: some aren't as fortunate or as patient to read the f***ing manual either...I once stepped into a world of hell asking the wrong question in a mandrake channel...I got jumped on ...uninstalled and went back to my windows world in fear of linux...come on..ubuntu is cool and the idea is that it is for everybody...even those that can't read11:59
Motoko-chanYou can try and see.11:59
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kemik_max_:  yw ;)11:59
Motoko-chanJust make sure you can revert.11:59
butcherbirdcyphase: youll get your breezy cds 3 months after dapper comes out and youll like it that way11:59
rjbwhat i wanna get right is suspend (sleep mode)11:59
_max_free~Andrew[CS] : Gaim is just as good as amsn.11:59
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rjbmy system hangs hard when awaking from sleep11:59

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