[12:00] <robotgeek> existance: yeah, then that will work
[12:00] <hyperactivecrond> i have a problem with my wiki accounts... i checked "perm. delete" on both of my accounts by accident... meant to do only one... so now i can't get in... and need an admin to fix that if at all possible so I can merge the accounts
[12:00] <Argoth> brb
[12:00] <Malachi> mwe: I don't see Install Theme...
[12:01] <joey222> now my internet connecion is fucked
[12:02] <Ophiocus> i hope it wears protection
[12:02] <dfgas_> redguy: got it working
[12:02] <joey222> its gonna need it if i kick the shit out of it
[12:02] <matitaccia> Hello! I'm trying to install linux on a sony notebook, vgn S5HP, but I get an error message: ata1 : BUG: timeout without command.
[12:02] <bimberi> Malachi: under "Themed Greeter"
[12:02] <dfgas_> redguy: i don't have any info for eth0 set, just did a auto eth0
[12:03] <Malachi> bimberi: Oh....nothing for other types of themes?
[12:03] <slashx1896> how do i backup the whole dvd using dvdbackup?
[12:03] <odat> nalioth, still here?
[12:03] <Malachi> bimberi: Like windows themes and icon themes.
[12:03] <redguy> dfgas_: good to hear
[12:03] <dfgas_> :D
[12:03] <willem> matitaccia:  when did you get that error message exactly?
[12:03] <bimberi> Malachi: System -> Preferences -> Theme
[12:03] <Malachi> bimberi: I've done that, but it doesn't install the themes all the way....
[12:04] <matitaccia> willem, hello.
[12:04] <bimberi> Malachi: "all the way"?
[12:04] <Malachi> From gnome-look.org...
[12:04] <existance> what video players can play .avi?
[12:04] <Malachi> bimberi: Or do I have to install separate things....
[12:04] <d-rock> existance: mplayer, totem-xine, vlc
[12:04] <pinucset> one think, it seems i cant resize a windows ntfs partition from qtparted, why not? :S
[12:05] <matitaccia> During the creation of partition. I was using other distros, not ubuntu. I'm downloading it right now, but I have seen on google that someone has already had this problem with ubuntu.
[12:05] <slashx1896> anyone? i dont know how to use dvdbackup.. it says -m back up a whole dvd, so what do i do? i ahve the dvd in my dvd drive
[12:05] <matitaccia> willem, and with a sony notebook.
[12:05] <d-rock> existance: avi is just a container format, you're probably running into codec issues if you can't play something
[12:05] <existance> d-rock, i have vlc, but when i try to open it, it doesn't play video, no error though
[12:05] <hyperactivecrond> slashx1896: man dvdbackup
[12:05] <Argoth> matitaccia: was that comment to me
[12:06] <Argoth> about the partition problems
[12:06] <matitaccia> Argoth, nope... unless you can help me out... eheh...
[12:06] <bimberi> Malachi: i'm not sure ... there is the "gnome-art" package which enables install from art.gnome.org
[12:07] <Malachi> bimberi:Humm....
[12:07] <Malachi> bimberi: Thanks, I'll try that.
[12:07] <Malachi> And thank you too, wme.
[12:07] <bimberi> Malachi: i've only ever installed an icon theme (gartoon) myself
[12:07] <bimberi> Malachi: k, np :)
[12:07] <willem> matitaccia:  sorry cant seem to talk private, i dont have a clue on how to solve your problem
[12:08] <matitaccia> willem, it's okay, thanks!
[12:08] <vk> how to change the standard prog for a filtype, for ex, if i want .avi to be opened in vlc?
[12:08] <willem> vk:  right click -> properties -> open with
[12:08] <Eugman> robot geek: "Could not save the file "/etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[12:08] <bimberi> willem: you need to be (registered and) identified to /msg on freenode (an anti-spambot measure)
[12:10] <vk> willem, tnx
[12:10] <mwe> Eugman: gksudo edit it
[12:11] <Eugman> I changed the permissions with chmod and then double clicked on it. What is the difference?
[12:11] <existance> how can i install .avi decoders for totem player?
[12:11] <mwe> Eugman: don't change permission on system files
[12:11] <bimberi> existance: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:11] <mwe> Eugman: it breaks security
[12:12] <Eugman> ok
[12:12] <existance> bimberi, thanks
[12:12] <mwe> Eugman: please change it back
[12:12] <bimberi> existance: np :)
[12:12] <Eugman> ok
[12:12] <mwe> Eugman: 644 is the default
[12:13] <Eugman> done
[12:13] <mwe> Eugman: now sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[12:13] <ibmnotebook> how to find out my apache version?
[12:13] <mwe> Eugman: but back it up first in case you screw up
[12:13] <Eugman> ok
[12:14] <piotr_> hmmm, me getting my hands on dapper repository ;] 
[12:14] <piotr_> is x window 7.0 released in packages?
[12:14] <oooh_walt> newbie need help with live cd.
[12:14] <corresponder> ?
[12:14] <mwe> why is everyone so hipped on running a broken releasy of ubuntu? :)
[12:15] <corresponder> broken?
[12:15] <corresponder> which?
[12:15] <mwe> corresponder: dapper
[12:15] <oooh_walt> help
[12:15] <corresponder> eigentlich brauch ich ja nur den schnorchel
[12:15] <bimberi> ibmnotebook: dpkg -l *apache* | grep ^ii
[12:15] <corresponder> k
[12:15] <corresponder> i dont know dapper
[12:16] <mwe> corresponder: it's the next, not yet finished, ubuntu release
[12:16] <Kindred> if I had a spare computer laying around I guess i'd give it a go.. but otherwise I can wait :|
[12:16] <corresponder> ah, k
[12:16] <oooh_walt> i downloaded the iso.  burned it with roxio. put it inside my cd and reboot. i changed bios to boot from cd. still nothing.
[12:16] <Mabus06> when is dapper officially out?
[12:16] <mwe> corresponder: everyone tries to run it. then can't understand why things are broken :)
[12:17] <Kindred> april
[12:17] <bimberi> Mabus06: April
[12:17] <corresponder> never touch a running system!
[12:17] <corresponder> they got to much time
[12:17] <oooh_walt> ajmitch / seveas can u help me please?
[12:17] <mwe> corresponder: yeah maybe
[12:17] <willem> k bye
[12:17] <corresponder> like with gentoo
[12:18] <corresponder> *duck&cover*
[12:18] <mwe> oooh_walt: broken cd maybe? can you boot another cd?
[12:19] <oooh_walt> mwe thanks.  cd fine. yes i can boot another. on the download site i see the other files, txt etc when i download iso will these be included
[12:19] <xiaogil> What do I need to install to avoid this error message : make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/source: Aucun fichier ou rpertoire de ce type. Arrt.
[12:19] <xiaogil>  ?
[12:19] <slashx1896> !dvd
[12:19] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:19] <slashx1896> im trying todo that but i get errors when adding that repositorie,
[12:19] <mwe> xiaogil: please prefix your command with LANGUAGE=C to get the errors in english
[12:20] <Kindred> slashx1896, what kind of errors
[12:20] <thegladiator> !botsnack
[12:20] <ubotu> :)
[12:20] <xiaogil> mwe: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/source: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[12:20] <oooh_walt> mwe r u there?
[12:20] <pazu> hi, im about to try a non-Microsoft OS for the first time, is ubuntu something to try?
[12:20] <thegladiator> yes pazu
[12:20] <mwe> xiaogil: what are you trying to compile?
[12:20] <Kindred> pazu, sure
[12:20] <thegladiator> one of the best things to try
[12:20] <mwe> xiaogil: it sounds like the kernel source is missing
[12:20] <slashx1896> kindred, hold on
[12:21] <oooh_walt> mew r u there?
[12:21] <xiaogil> mwe: do you know the exact name of package to install ?
[12:21] <cvt|gnuyear> why can't i access the files on my digital camera?
[12:21] <sharpfurniture> hi
[12:22] <sharpfurniture> whats the universe and multiverse add thingy?
[12:22] <pazu> i want to go away from Windows-like super multimedia-shopping-buttons-and shit to more slimed OS, is ubuntu ok or is it full of shit to make it "stupid-user-friendly"?
[12:22] <oooh_walt> help when i download iso will the txt files or other files download with it or do i have to download seperate?
[12:22] <Kindred> !universe
[12:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:22] <mwe> xiaogil: what are you trying to install? maybe you just need the headers
[12:22] <sharpfurniture> whats the universe and multiverse add thingy?
[12:22] <slashx1896> kindred, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6674
[12:22] <sharpfurniture> !multiverse
[12:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:22] <sharpfurniture> thanks
[12:22] <Seveas> 6666
[12:23] <sharpfurniture> sorry i didnt read ubotu before
[12:23] <vk> is there any way to use a webcam on msn in ubuntu?
[12:23] <xiaogil> mwe: pvrusb2-mci-20060103$ to use my WinTV PVR USB2
[12:23] <oooh_walt> after i download iso file for live cd what next?
[12:23] <pazu> i want to go away from Windows-like super multimedia-shopping-buttons-and shit to more slimed OS, is ubuntu ok or is it full of shit to make it "stupid-user-friendly"?
[12:23] <slashx1896> kindred, those errors...
[12:23] <mwe> xiaogil: it's a kernel module?
[12:24] <Seveas> pazu, Ubuntu is ok
[12:24] <Kindred> slashx1896, don't worry about tht GPG error
[12:24] <Seveas> there's no shit in Ubuntu
[12:24] <slashx1896> oh
[12:24] <slashx1896> ok
[12:24] <xiaogil> mwe: yes, it looks to be
[12:24] <King> Hello group, this is test, pls ignore
[12:24] <Seveas> !test
[12:24] <ubotu> Passed.
[12:24] <King> Tnx
[12:24] <oooh_walt> hey seveas when i d/l iso does the other  files like txt come with it? also after i d/l iso what next burn all files to cd then what?
[12:24] <mwe> xiaogil: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) then if it still complains sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[12:25] <xiaogil> mwe: I'm trying to follow the instructions there : http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2.html
[12:25] <bimberi> not much slime in ubuntu either :P
[12:25] <Seveas> oooh_walt, you download iso and you burn the iso *as image* on cd, do net extract it or burn it as a file
[12:25] <mwe> xiaogil: looks like you need the kernel source
[12:25] <xiaogil> mwe: both are already installed
[12:26] <oooh_walt> i used roxio but maybe done wrong , how do i burn as "image"
[12:26] <slashx1896> kindred, im still not finding libdvdcss
[12:26] <xiaogil> mwe: what is the location of my kernel source tree ?
[12:26] <vk> is there any way to use a webcam with msn in ubuntu?
[12:26] <mwe> xiaogil: check that the link /lib/modules-$(uname -r)/source is valid and point to the kernel source
[12:27] <Kindred> slashx1896, did you sudo apt-get update
[12:27] <mwe> xiaogil: should be /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r) IIRC
[12:27] <slashx1896> oh, no hold on
[12:27] <mwe> xiaogil: and /usr/src/linux should be a symlink pointing to it
[12:27] <pazu> i got a free partition on about 7 GB, is it good enough for trying ubuntu
[12:28] <Kindred> pazu, yeah 7gb is fine
[12:28] <mwe> pazu: sure
[12:28] <slashx1896> still nothing
[12:28] <pazu> will i have access to all other drives after installing ubuntu ( Ill go dualboot with windows xp on C:)
[12:29] <slashx1896> i got some different errors and failed things when i did apt-get update
[12:29] <oooh_walt> hey anyone when i go download iso do i download just iso or iso and txt files? also how do i burn image?
[12:29] <mwe> pazu: yeah but you can't write to ntfs safly
[12:29] <Kindred> pazu, you wont be able to write to ntfs
[12:29] <mwe> pazu: only read
[12:29] <oooh_walt> how do i burn image?
[12:29] <bimberi> oooh_walt: just the iso and consult your roxio manual / online-help
[12:30] <mwe> oooh_walt: from linux on the command line or what?
[12:30] <pazu> ok, no writing to ntfs, is ubuntu FAT32 or what?
[12:30] <lightbright> oooh_walt: why would you want to?
[12:30] <bimberi> pazu: ext3
[12:30] <bimberi> (by default)
[12:30] <pazu> y is it that one cant play around with NTFS-partitions using ubuntu
[12:30] <mwe> pazu: no linux system uses fat32
[12:30] <pazu> oki
[12:30] <yggdrasil> dam 20 minutes
[12:30] <yggdrasil> hah
[12:30] <mwe> pazu: it doesn't have permissions
[12:31] <mwe> pazu: I use reiserfs, but ext3 is the default
[12:31] <slashx1896> brb all
[12:31] <pazu> omg, so there are other formats then ntfs and fat32 (fat16)
[12:31] <dmk> pazu: there is only limited write support for ntfs in the kernel, therefore most people only read from ntfs
[12:31] <existance> how do i run totem-xine after I install it?
[12:31] <mwe> pazu: like hundreds yes
[12:31] <dmk> existance: run totem
[12:31] <pazu> i feel that i will regret ever trying linux
[12:32] <existance> dmk, i see..
[12:32] <pazu> i have no real reason yet win xp work great... but i want to support open-source
[12:32] <oooh_walt> i downloaded iso and burned it with roxio "xp" but computer won't boot. i changed bios to boot from cd. is image ok. do i need the txt files also?
[12:32] <mwe> pazu: then remove it and go back to windows
[12:32] <pazu> i like the idea of open source...
[12:32] <Kindred> oooh_walt, you just need the iso but you do need to burn it correctly
[12:32] <vk> pazu, linux isnt that easy to learn if you want to
[12:32] <vk> but it takes time
[12:32] <mwe> pazu: yeah
[12:32] <pazu> i even sold my PSP to buy an GP2X
[12:33] <existance> how do i download a .avi codec for vlc?
[12:33] <mwe> pazu: it's pretty easy to install. and basic usage is not hard either. it will create a dual boot for you
[12:33] <pazu> i wish there where windows-compatible open source operating system
[12:33] <mwe> pazu: no
[12:34] <mwe> pazu: most people still keep windows around for their games
[12:34] <robertj> ok, I definately need to buy a new computer this week
[12:34] <joey222> i need some network setings help
[12:34] <robertj> my wife has officially moved off her computer and onto mine in the female equivalent of taking a dump on your keyboard
[12:34] <joey222> anyone wanna give me a hand
[12:34] <robertj> my laptop now has a large glittery ... thing...covering it
[12:34] <Kindred> sounds.. nice
[12:35] <pazu> if one keeps windows for games, what the biggest reason for not just going win windows xp for everything else, is it so bad to run firefox from windows?
[12:35] <yggdrasil> nailioth
[12:35] <yggdrasil> nailioth  are you still around ?
[12:35] <john__> this is the second time my mouse has completely frozen when closing a program, has linux crashed? do I need to power off and on or is there a get out of jail free card?
[12:36] <yggdrasil> try hiting ctrl alt backspace
[12:36] <mwe> pazu: security, using free tools for what you can.
[12:36] <Eugman> argh. I uncommented th two lines with addtype and php in them but it doesn't seem to have made a difference. If it helps any I'm trying to run mediawiki.
[12:36] <yggdrasil> john try hiting ctrl alt backspace
[12:36] <john__> no response to ctrl alt bs
[12:36] <yggdrasil> ctrl alt f1 ?
[12:37] <john__> any other ideas?
[12:37] <existance> can tar open .rar's ?
[12:37] <dmk> pazu: if you don't want to give ubuntu a full try and just want secure browsing from windows for the moment try vmwares browser appliance app
[12:37] <dmk> pazu: http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/browserapp.html
[12:37] <mwe> Eugman: what's that, you can't make php work or what?
[12:37] <oooh_walt> how do i open txt files in download section to view and see what is on them?
[12:37] <yggdrasil> john ctrl alt f1 ?
[12:37] <dmk> pazu: you can then see ubuntu in action from the comfort of Windows XP
[12:38] <john__> still no luck
[12:38] <yggdrasil> can somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server
[12:38] <yggdrasil> sounds pretty crashed
[12:38] <Eugman> I want to to render php like it should but instead it tells firefox to dl the file
[12:38] <yggdrasil> try ctrl alt del
[12:38] <john__> tried, still frozen
[12:38] <mwe> Eugman: did you read the lamp wiki?
[12:38] <john__> gnome meeting locked it up
[12:38] <dmk> pazu: please note i have never tried it myself
[12:38] <yggdrasil> can somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server i got it mounted but i dont have write access to it
[12:38] <mwe> Eugman: I had it working in 10 minutes or so following that
[12:38] <john__> it crashed so I had to force quit it and ubuntu locked up on clicking force quit
[12:38] <yggdrasil> i poseted a pastebin under yggdrasil
[12:39] <yggdrasil> john you goot push the power button
[12:39] <john__> yup
[12:39] <john__> :(
[12:39] <yggdrasil> yep
[12:39] <john__> bloody linux
[12:39] <yggdrasil> works fine here
[12:39] <yggdrasil> heheh
[12:39] <yggdrasil> try pulling some ram out
[12:39] <yggdrasil> ?
[12:39] <lightbright> USA is the 1st BEAST that Bible warns us about, and the Vatican is the other Beast!  Revelation 17:3
[12:39] <lightbright> oops sorry, wrong window
[12:39] <lightbright> sorry evryone, wrong channel
[12:39] <Kindred> hehe
[12:39] <john__> i hope its not my new memory causing problems
[12:40] <john__> just installed 2gigs of Crucial 3200 ddr
[12:40] <LemLapUbuntu> ello all
[12:40] <existance> can tar open a .rar ?
[12:40] <john__> was fairly stable before that but didnt really test it before that either
[12:40] <Eugman> link?
[12:40] <trappist> existance: no, but unrar can
[12:40] <pazu> hows linux and TCPA connected?
[12:40] <john__> and i completely trust crucial
[12:40] <yggdrasil> john ....
[12:40] <yggdrasil> take it out and see what happens
[12:40] <LemLapUbuntu> Trying to install ubuntu on my laptop and it keeps failing to install the packages
[12:40] <yggdrasil> one stick at a time
[12:40] <mwe> !tell Eugman about lamp
[12:40] <existance> trappist, mm, there a package for that?
[12:40] <LemLapUbuntu> anyone go any ideas?
[12:40] <mwe> Eugman: read the /msg from ubotu
[12:41] <john__> yggdrasil, but its not a very patterned crash
[12:41] <john__> it happened in evolution before
[12:41] <john__> now in gnome meeting
[12:41] <yggdrasil> thats what bad ram will do
[12:41] <john__> i never know when
[12:41] <john__> been using it for an hour or so
[12:41] <john__> maybes i should run memtest86
[12:41] <yggdrasil> can somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server i got it mounted but i dont have write access to it i got pastebin under yggdrasil.
[12:41] <mwe> john__: check the log files
[12:41] <bimberi> existance: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree
[12:41] <LemLapUbuntu> i'd always run memtest after putting ram in
[12:41] <trappist> existance: I recommend unrar-nonfree if you want to work with files made in the last few years
[12:41] <john__> mwe, where r they?
[12:41] <mwe> john__: /var/log
[12:41] <john__> mwe, will they tell me if it was ram?
[12:42] <Pygi> freaky: ping ping ping
[12:42] <LemLapUbuntu> can anyone help me with this problem?
[12:42] <mwe> john__: maybe they indicate something, but they don't say "your machine crashed due to bad ram"
[12:42] <existance> trappist, nonfree isnt in synaptic :/
[12:43] <trappist> !tell existance about repos
[12:43] <Pygi> LemLapUbuntu: what seems to be ur problem?
[12:43] <LemLapUbuntu> it get thru the 1st install stage fine
[12:43] <LemLapUbuntu> installs grub and stuff ok
[12:43] <yggdrasil> lemlap samething happend to me
[12:44] <yggdrasil> is it a dell old dell
[12:44] <LemLapUbuntu> then it goes to install the next lot of packaes and dies with a big message saying it could not install the packages
[12:44] <LemLapUbuntu> nah it's a toshiba portege 2000 and i'm doing a netboot install
[12:44] <pazu> is ubuntu fast to boot?
[12:44] <yggdrasil> hmm strange
[12:44] <Pygi> Lem: well, probably media is not OK: scratched or something, or low disc space
[12:44] <yggdrasil> i did mine off the cd
[12:44] <mwe> LemLapUbuntu: bad cd maybe?
[12:44] <yggdrasil> and it gave me that
[12:44] <Pygi> pazu: yes, but dapper is even faster :D
[12:44] <LemLapUbuntu> not off a cd. direct off the net
[12:44] <mwe> pazu: 25 seconds or so for me
[12:44] <LemLapUbuntu> could it be the archive?
[12:44] <Pygi> LemLapUbuntu: bad connection or hard drive?
[12:45] <LemLapUbuntu> after the error message it drops to a login prompt
[12:45] <mwe> pazu: maybe less
[12:45] <LemLapUbuntu> i don't think eeither of them pygi
[12:45] <cvt|gnuyear> i get awful sounds when playing only wav files. i have vlc, xine, mplayer and others; what could be the problem?
[12:45] <LemLapUbuntu> has no problems up till that stage
[12:45] <yggdrasil> can somone help me moutn a smbfs to a windows server i got it mounted but i dont have write access to it i got pastebin under yggdrasil.
[12:45] <mcphail> Is anyone using mythtv under amd64? Are you using standard repositories?
[12:45] <Pygi> LemLapUbuntu: huh, the archive is fine.... unless you tried installing dapper?
[12:45] <LemLapUbuntu> nfi what dapper is
[12:46] <LemLapUbuntu> am doing a normal breezy badger install off au.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:46] <Pygi> ubotu tell  LemLapUbuntu about dapper
[12:46] <mwe> yggdrasil: isn't that because the windows server don't allow it?
[12:46] <Pygi> LemLap: try just archive.ubuntu.com
[12:46] <bimberi> LemLapUbuntu: see if you can log in and complete the install with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[12:46] <LemLapUbuntu> ok will do
[12:46] <mwe> yggdrasil: and what's the url to your paste?
[12:46] <CodenameKT> !dapper
[12:46] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[12:46] <LemLapUbuntu> anyone know hwo to restart the package setup with out going all the way thru the whole setup
[12:47] <pazu> came to think of it, how is ATIlinux support?
[12:47] <LemLapUbuntu> atm it boots to a login prompt
[12:47] <LemLapUbuntu> pazu shit
[12:47] <Pygi> !Ati
[12:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:47] <bimberi> LemLapUbuntu: see my post :)
[12:47] <mwe> pazu: it works
[12:47] <Pygi> ati works good
[12:47] <Pygi> I have ati card :)
[12:47] <LemLapUbuntu> ok will try that
[12:47] <Pygi> but nvidia works better :P
[12:47] <Kindred> ati are trying a bit harder
[12:47] <XiP> Hello
[12:48] <yggdrasil> mwe is the um
[12:48] <Seveas> ati drivers are much better than nvidia
[12:48] <yggdrasil> mwe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6675
[12:48] <Pygi> Seveas: huh, not really :/
[12:48] <XiP> ?Q? What's a command I can use to check the kernel version?
[12:48] <Seveas> Pygi, they are
[12:48] <Kindred> no composite support..
[12:48] <Seveas> they support suspend
[12:48] <yggdrasil> mwe it shoudl allow it hahah
[12:48] <Pygi> Seveas: I have much better experience with nvidia ones :/
[12:48] <cvt|gnuyear> why can't i play two media files simultaneously?
[12:48] <mcphail> XiP: uname -r
[12:48] <Pygi> Seveas: huh? I have suspend as well on ATI :/
[12:48] <XiP> mcphail: thx
[12:48] <Seveas> and the OSS drivers do composite if you want that
[12:48] <CodenameKT> seveas: nvidia supports ut 2004 on linux
[12:49] <Lee22> Hey guys, I installed NSF and in /etc/exports I have my PowerBook's iP shared to /home/myusername with options RW.  It mounts fine on my powerbook but I can't write to it says I don't have the necessary permission, even though its set at rw?  Anyone know what's wrong?
[12:49] <odat> well i guess its time to just reinstall
[12:49] <odat> :(
[12:49] <Seveas> ati delivers debs of their drivers :)
[12:49] <existance> how do i run a .exe ?
[12:49] <yggdrasil> nailoth
[12:49] <Seveas> existance, reboot into windows
[12:49] <odat> existance, wine
[12:49] <bimberi> ubotu tell existance about wine
[12:49] <Pygi> Seveas: huh, well, probably, but I don't care if I have or I don't have a deb package...using make is not a problem for me
[12:49] <LemLapUbuntu> okay i've done that command bimberi
[12:49] <Pygi> it's preffered way of installing things for me :)
[12:49] <LemLapUbuntu> and now it's asking for a root password
[12:49] <kurros> unless you are talking about a C# .exe
[12:49] <LemLapUbuntu> which i didn't setup
[12:50] <bimberi> LemLapUbuntu: your password
[12:50] <Pygi> use ur user pass
[12:50] <CodenameKT> seveas: i dont know much about nvidia i have ati but i can tell u that i have found some things only nvidia supported
[12:50] <Lee22> Anyone know?
[12:50] <Seveas> CodenameKT, same for ati :)
[12:50] <LemLapUbuntu> ah cool
[12:50] <LemLapUbuntu> working now
[12:50] <LemLapUbuntu> thanks
[12:50] <oooh_walt> when i download iso i burned it with roxio but iso won't load up at start up. do i need txt files also in iso?
[12:50] <yggdrasil> i should be able to mount an smb drive from a windows server
[12:50] <Seveas> CodenameKT, and old ati cards are still supported, nvidia just ditched all support for old cards
[12:50] <bimberi> ubotu tell LemLapUbuntu about root
[12:50] <yggdrasil> dont see how it realy matters
[12:51] <Pygi> CodenameK: I have ATI card, and it works great, so don't get me wrong, but I still think nvidia drivers are just better  :)
[12:51] <CodenameKT> seveas: That's not too nice. Sounds like microsoft xbox
[12:51] <oooh_walt> bimberi when i download iso i burned it with roxio but iso won't load up at start up. do i need txt files also in iso?
[12:51] <LemLapUbuntu> thanks bimberi
[12:51] <foot> i have this old amd k6 300mhz... Anybody know of an insanely outdated, dorky and dusty OS i could put on it (for kicks and giggles)
[12:51] <foot> ;)
[12:51] <mwe> yggdrasil: paste your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:51] <Eugman> hey mwe
[12:51] <bimberi> oooh_walt: you don't need the txt files, just the iso file which you burn as an image (ie. don't just burn the iso file onto a cd)
[12:51] <Kindred> oooh_walt, just the iso burned as an image
[12:51] <bimberi> LemLapUbuntu: np :)
[12:51] <mwe> Eugman: hey
[12:52] <Ophiocus> paste?
[12:52] <Eugman> could you clarify "Edit Apache Configuration" section and if I need to do it
[12:52] <Ophiocus> where?
[12:52] <Ophiocus> here?
[12:52] <Ophiocus> dont you dare
[12:52] <LemLapUbuntu> i think i'll keep this window open in case i need more help :-D
[12:52] <oooh_walt> bimberi step by step plz , i'm doing somthing wrong.
[12:52] <cdehaan> How do I erase the MBR with fdisk?
[12:52] <Eugman> The first think I found was www-data and I think that's probably supposed to be a group
[12:53] <bimberi> oooh_walt: i have no idea how roxio works - it's a windows program after all :)
[12:53] <mwe> Ophiocus: of course not in the channel. he knows how to use pastebin
[12:53] <LemLapUbuntu> if anyone wants help with seeting up a windows machine as a netboot server i'm your man :-D
[12:53] <oooh_walt> i know i want to test ubuntu, help
[12:53] <Pygi> seveas: and I've learned that nvidia delivers much better opengl optimizations and performance when using opengl in coding :)
[12:53] <Ophiocus> just warning happy i am
[12:53] <yggdrasil> mwe im just using mount -t smbfs ?
[12:53] <mcphail> cdehaan: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdisk bs=512 count=1
[12:53] <Ophiocus> :P
[12:53] <nekostar> so i take it that planet mirror is down
[12:53] <nekostar> as my system cant stat packages and um
[12:54] <mwe> yggdrasil: yeah. pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[12:54] <nekostar> unknown error executing gpgv
[12:54] <yggdrasil> man its porbobly empty
[12:54] <yggdrasil> ill do it now
[12:54] <nekostar> anyone else having the same problem there?
[12:54] <CodenameKT> pygi yeah but ati has the ansii card for ansii gaming roar!!
[12:54] <nekostar> yggdrasil,
[12:54] <Kindred> oooh_walt: # Start the 'Record CD from CD Image' feature.
[12:54] <Kindred> From Easy CD Creator's File menu, select Record CD from CD Image.
[12:54] <nekostar> what did u get your nick from?
[12:54] <yggdrasil> neko
[12:54] <nekostar> its really familiar but i can't place it
[12:54] <nekostar> hi btw
[12:54] <nekostar> :D
[12:54] <yggdrasil> oh yea
[12:54] <yggdrasil> hehe
[12:54] <yggdrasil> its atree
[12:54] <cdehaan> yggdrasil... old linux distro?
[12:54] <yggdrasil> or a zenogears
[12:54] <Pygi> Codename: heh :P
[12:54] <yggdrasil> cde breazy
[12:54] <nekostar> ah
[12:55] <LemLapUbuntu> yay
[12:55] <yggdrasil> and an old linux distro
[12:55] <LemLapUbuntu> it's working
[12:55] <oooh_walt> kindred ok after record then what ?
[12:55] <mwe> yggdrasil: well for just mounting a windows machine share it's probably no use. forget about it. sorry
[12:55] <cyphase> what's the command to uncompress a .tar.gz file
[12:55] <bimberi> LemLapUbuntu: great! :)
[12:55] <cdehaan> mcphail, I think I want an fdisk command...
[12:55] <yggdrasil> mwe thats what im saying its supposed to come up ins fstab and mount
[12:55] <Kindred> oooh_walt, i'm just reading this off a site but it seems easy enough - just burn your iso like that
[12:55] <yggdrasil> ive got it all there
[12:55] <Pygi> LemLap: works now?
[12:55] <LemLapUbuntu> yeah
[12:55] <LemLapUbuntu> getting the packages atm
[12:55] <cvt|gnuyear> How can i fix the terrible distortion i hear when playing wav files?
[12:55] <mwe> yggdrasil: yeah
[12:55] <TestMAD> is there a way to make my current ubuntu install and settings into a livecd?
[12:55] <LemLapUbuntu> any idea how many it will get?
[12:56] <yggdrasil> i think it has something to do with uid gid
[12:56] <mwe> yggdrasil: you can mount it but not write?
[12:56] <Pygi> LemLap: congrats :)
[12:56] <yggdrasil> exactly
[12:56] <Dreamglider> Hey, anyone here use Synergy ?
[12:56] <Pygi> !patience
[12:56] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:56] <cdehaan> mcphail, Nevermind, it appears that is right.
[12:56] <cdehaan> mcphail, Thanks for your help.
[12:56] <mwe> yggdrasil: can you write if you're root?
[12:56] <oooh_walt> i did that and now it says i can only open it with roxio. the image is there, i see it. but whe i reboot it won't start ubuntu
[12:56] <bimberi> cyphase: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[12:57] <oooh_walt> kindre look at previous message
[12:57] <cyphase> that's the one :P
[12:57] <cyphase> thanx bimberi
[12:57] <bimberi> LemLapUbuntu: there might be a % complete figure on the left
[12:57] <bimberi> cyphase: np :)
[12:57] <LemLapUbuntu> nope
[12:57] <LemLapUbuntu> :-(
[12:57] <LemLapUbuntu> oh well
[12:57] <bimberi> hm
[12:57] <oooh_walt> kindred the image is there, it won't start when i reboot.
[12:57] <scummbar> hi people, can anybody tell me the permisions that I must change to make a directory witrable by apache in ubuntu breezy? I can't find wich users is running apache
[12:58] <yggdrasil> bah ok ill deal with this tomorow
[12:58] <yggdrasil> thanks guys
[12:58] <LemLapUbuntu> just has like get:# ftp://blah.blah.blah filename version size
[12:59] <Ophiocus> scummbar, sudo chmod 777 /dir/for/apache/dir
[12:59] <mwe> Ophiocus: bad idea
[12:59] <scummbar> yes...
[12:59] <Ophiocus> that opens up the dir to any user for any purpose
[01:00] <mwe> Ophiocus: insecure as hell
[01:00] <scummbar> anybody could del my files
[01:00] <Ophiocus> and its not secure,. but for playing around with apache it works
[01:01] <scummbar> how can I solve my problema?
[01:01] <mcphail> Has anyone managed to install mythtv under amd64?
[01:01] <mwe> scummbar: well just change owner to www-data I think
[01:01] <scummbar> chown -R www.data /var/www
[01:01] <mwe> scummbar: I think that the user apache runs as at least
[01:02] <mwe> scummbar: or rather it is
[01:02] <scummbar> root      4945  0.0  3.4  16456  7652 ?        Ss    2005   0:00 /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start
[01:02] <scummbar> nobody   26600  0.0  6.5  23056 14780 ?        S     2005   4:58 /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd -k start
[01:02] <cosmo_> file browser
[01:02] <Morg> Is Ubuntu ever going to release a Firefox 1.5 package?
[01:03] <Kindred> not for breezy
[01:03] <Morg> Kindred: Why not?
[01:03] <mwe> scummbar: how did you run apache and are we talking apache2?
[01:03] <LemLapUbuntu> cause dapper comes out soon?
[01:03] <scummbar> yes
[01:03] <scummbar> apache2
[01:03] <mwe> LemLapUbuntu: yeah in 4 months
[01:04] <LemLapUbuntu> oh
[01:04] <Kindred> Morg, 1.5 has some changes that can't be backported without breaking stuff
[01:04] <LemLapUbuntu> lol
[01:04] <mwe> scummbar: how did you start it?
[01:04] <LemLapUbuntu> meh i'm gonna use opera anyway
[01:04] <LemLapUbuntu> i like my tabbed browsing and mouse gestures too much
[01:04] <Kindred> Morg, you can of course just install it to a dir as it is though
[01:04] <Morg> Kindred: So when does the next version of Ubuntu come out?
[01:05] <athlon> have anyone else here noticed that Firefox in ubuntu / linux is MUCH slower than its windows counterpart
[01:05] <Kindred> Morg, April
[01:05] <mwe> scummbar: cause I have: www-data  3360  0.0  0.3  13912  3128 ?        S    Jan05   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start -DSSL
[01:05] <Morg> athlon: No, but I've noticed Firefox constantly crashing in Ubuntu
[01:05] <Eugman> yeah ubuntu has a 6 month release cycle
[01:05] <dueyfinster> Help needed, I accidently misconfigured xserver-xorg and now its gone. I cannot resolve my router to reinstall it on command line.
[01:05] <scummbar> mwe /etc/init.d/
[01:05] <Kindred> I think 1.0.0.7 in default breezy is very clunky/slow
[01:05] <Morg> I'm not sure I get why they can't update Firefox.
[01:06] <mwe> scummbar: and what you pasted was from ps aux|grep apache ?
[01:06] <scummbar> yep
[01:06] <mwe> Morg: because stuff that depends on gecko will break
[01:06] <mwe> Morg: that's like 50 things or more
[01:06] <Eugman> could someone explain why I have to do this? "Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using. Then you'll need to restart Apache."
[01:07] <Eugman> !lamp
[01:07] <ubotu> lamp is probably Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:07] <cj> Eugman: I heard mysql.  can I help you?
[01:07] <dueyfinster> Any way to reinstall xserver off ubuntu cd?
[01:07] <JoeBlow> has anyone had any problems with loki where it cant find cds or isos?
[01:07] <Morg> mwe: So if I can install it myself in a new directory, why don't they make a new package that does the same thing, but integrates with the other things I've installed?
[01:07] <Hericus> http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/01/04/largest.prime.number.ap/index.html
[01:08] <mwe> Morg: like I told you it would break too much stuff
[01:08] <Eugman> I'm hesistant about the edit apache configurations under the explaination of a lamp install because it seems like www-data is what it should be
[01:08] <Kindred> Morg, it's the integrating that's the problem
[01:08] <Morg> mwe: I guess you didn't read my statement.
[01:08] <bimberi> dueyfinster: can you tried running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[01:08] <mwe> Morg: read http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20051212#3 for reference. you installing it yourself keeps the old one around for stuff that needs the old gecko
[01:08] <bimberi> s/can/have/
[01:08] <dueyfinster> No bisber will do
[01:09] <leddt> Hey anyone can help me? I'm tryng to boot from the live cd (amd64 version) but I get an error when xserver is starting : Failed to start the X server. Error details says no screens found. Any idea what may be causing this ?
[01:09] <Morg> mwe: Precisely, so why can't they make a package that does the equivalent of what installing it yourself does?
[01:09] <JoeBlow> how do i enable joliet extensions?
[01:09] <mwe> Morg: they could. but that would mean having two versions of firefox around
[01:09] <Morg> mwe: And why can't they do that?
[01:09] <dueyfinster> Xserver is broken or not fully installed
[01:10] <dueyfinster> Bisber: xserver is broken
[01:10] <mwe> Morg: I guess they could. I don't know why they wont. maybe they think it's a mess
[01:10] <xiaogil> How to install 'ncurses-devel', it's not in the reposits...?
[01:10] <Dreamglider> does anyone use quicksynergy ?
[01:10] <JoeBlow> how do i enable joliet extensions?
[01:10] <corresponder> dueyfinster: all installed?
[01:10] <Morg> mwe: Seems like they already made a mess if they can't install new versions of a web browser.
[01:11] <mwe> Morg: no wrong
[01:11] <corresponder> sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[01:11] <LemLapUbuntu> heh. i think this is doing he 812 packages it said it needed
[01:11] <Some_Body> by default, sudo doesn't require a password, right?
[01:11] <Morg> mwe: How so?
[01:11] <mwe> Morg: firefox developers should start thinking and not change the api all the time
[01:11] <bimberi> dueyfinster: looks like a reinstall then
[01:11] <Some_Body> because I ddin't set one, but whenever I run sudo I'm prompted for a password
[01:11] <Kindred> Some_Body, sure it does
[01:11] <dueyfinster> Corresponder: No cant resolve ra0 (wireless) router to update, can do it off cd?
[01:11] <bimberi> Some_Body: it uses your user password
[01:12] <leddt> corresponder: so I run this and it may help ?
[01:12] <corresponder> which cd?
[01:12] <JoeBlow> how do i enable joliet extensions?
[01:12] <Some_Body> ok, thanks
[01:12] <dueyfinster> Bisber: must be a way
[01:12] <corresponder> the ubuntu one has all on it to make X wokr
[01:12] <Ophiocus> one short question,. whats img extention for and opens that?
[01:12] <mwe> Morg: making it independent of other apps would mean not installing anything the depends on gecko
[01:12] <leddt> (I'm pretty new to linux in general)
[01:12] <bimberi> dueyfinster: edit sources.list , comment out everything except the CD line, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg
[01:12] <mwe> Morg: that includes the help browser and other stuff
[01:13] <TestMAD> whats the esiest way to turn my ubuntu install int a livecd?
[01:13] <Morg> mwe: If Ubuntu set up any of their software so that it was dependent on Firefox, then I'd say Ubuntu already made a mess.
[01:13] <pusling> what version of xorg are the ubuntu livecds using ? any one with 6.9 ?
[01:14] <navarone> testmad why not just use the live cd?
[01:14] <cyphase> *sigh*
[01:14] <TestMAD> doesnt have fluxbox
[01:14] <TestMAD> or my fonts
[01:14] <TestMAD> or any apps that i use
[01:15] <jahshua--> hey guys i would like to set/up use ethereal.. anyone got any tips? good links? i have absolutely no idea what to do with it
[01:15] <mwe> Morg: I guess keeping gecko as a seperate package and providing firefox as standalone would solve. file a bug report
[01:15] <khermans> Anyone know how to convert videos for use on my new iPod?
[01:15] <JoeBlow> anyone had any luck with loki game installer?
[01:15] <polpak> mwe, I'm pretty sure that's what they're planning to do for dapper
[01:15] <luis> ALGUIEN QUE ABLE ESPAOL???
[01:15] <polpak> !es
[01:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:15] <cyphase> jahshua--, why do you want it?
[01:15] <khermans> I used something in Windows, but I don't know how to do it in Linux
[01:15] <mwe> polpak: good idea
[01:15] <luis> OLAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:16] <jahshua--> cyphase: because i want to know if im being snooped on etc
[01:16] <cvt|gnuyear> why can't i close xine?
[01:16] <jahshua--> im a paranoid kind of person :)
[01:16] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, did it lock?
[01:16] <luis> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:16] <cvt|gnuyear> polpak, yes
[01:16] <luis> ESPAOL??
[01:16] <cyphase> jahshua--, you mean you want to know if you have spyware?
[01:16] <polpak> ubotu tell luis about es
[01:16] <mwe> polpak: I must agree not being able to upgrade a browser seems like a design flaw to me too
[01:16] <luis> NO ENTIENDO
[01:16] <jahshua--> cyphase: hmm well i wasent aware that linux has spyware issues to be honest
[01:16] <polpak> cvt|gnuyear, you can kill the process then
[01:16] <Mabus06> my rhythmbox is not working, and nobody seems to be able to help me, so I'd rather just get a new program that plays mp3s for gnome, can anyone reccomend one?
[01:16] <cyphase> it doesn't
[01:17] <cyphase> that's my point
[01:17] <jahshua--> cyphase: that wasent really my concern
[01:17] <cyphase> well, anyway
[01:17] <cyphase> just install it like any other program
[01:17] <jahshua--> cyphase: i didnt mention spyware, you did :)
[01:17] <psusi> no nintendo?  how terrible!
[01:17] <luis> OLA POLPAK
[01:17] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install ethereal
[01:17] <polpak> Mabus06, totem plays MP3's
[01:17] <jahshua--> cyphase: right i know that part :) i have no clue how its used/set up
[01:17] <luis> Q ALGUIEN ME AYUDE PARA ABLAR CON ALGUIEN Q TENGA UBUNTU
[01:18] <polpak> Mabus06, just doesn't do the whole music library thing people seems so fond of
[01:18] <mwe> luis: cut the caps and speak english or leave
[01:18] <psusi> !es
[01:18] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:18] <xiaogil> How to install 'ncurses-devel', it's not in the reposits...?
[01:18] <scummbar> luis: query :)
[01:18] <luis> OK
[01:18] <Eugman> dangit! I followed all the instructions from !lamp and php is still not working!
[01:18] <luis> perdonar todos
[01:18] <JoeBlow> any of you guys use cedega?
[01:18] <polpak> xiaogil, libncurses-dev
[01:18] <JoeBlow> cvs cedega
[01:18] <cyphase> jahshua--, you should go to http://www.ethereal.com then
[01:18] <cyphase> it has to many features to explain on IRC
[01:19] <luis> pero donde puedo entrar en un sitio q ablen espaol?
[01:19] <jahshua--> k
[01:19] <Mabus06> polpak, know another program that has a library thing?
[01:19] <navarone> polpak...generally nautilus file browser is my music library interface...at least I tend to use it more than rythmbox
[01:19] <scummbar> luis: atiende mi privado
[01:19] <cyphase> jahshua--, but for basic usage, it's very easy
[01:19] <polpak> Mabus06, only amrok, and it uses KDE libs
[01:19] <cyphase> you just start a capture
[01:19] <cyphase> there's a button :P
[01:19] <mwe> /ignore is a wonderful feature
[01:19] <polpak> navarone, yeah, I know
[01:19] <polpak> navarone, but some people (like my wife) can't live without em ;p
[01:20] <jahshua--> cyphase: ok thanks :)
[01:20] <cyphase> jahshua--, np :)
[01:20] <navarone> polapk...i find r-box library can make files hard to find...especially if they have weird character encoding...like Russian or such...or if the tag info leaves out inportant things like title...or artist...:/
[01:20] <luis> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:21] <mpatton> i just did a Breezy upgrade with dist-upgrade, but my X windows is now hosed.  I am downloading Breezy ISO from a mirror now.  My question is whether or not I will need to reformat.
[01:21] <luis> scummm
[01:21] <scummbar> mi privado
[01:21] <Eugman> harumph. The html is working on my server but the php isn't.
[01:21] <scummbar> luis /query
[01:21] <luis> privado
[01:21] <scummbar> sorry mwe
[01:21] <navarone> Mabus06 what difficulties is r-box giving out of curiosity?
[01:22] <MrFaber> hi all
[01:22] <luis> scummm?
[01:22] <polpak> mpatton, just save your /home directory to a different partition. Then you can upgrade without losing any of your important data
[01:22] <CodyDH> Hello!
[01:23] <luis> ablame en privado pliss
[01:23] <CodyDH> What kind of support is there for Ubuntu on PPC?
[01:23] <MrFaber> I have two network cards and I want a special eth0 and eth1 allocation but ubuntu has twisted them
[01:23] <seth_k|lappy> Seveas, ajmitch, hi. Could you guys take care of luis please.
[01:23] <mwe> CodyDH: good support I think
[01:23] <MrFaber> I have created a file in modutils and used alias commands but it didn't help
[01:23] <bimberi> TestMAD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[01:23] <MrFaber> What can I do about that?
[01:23] <polpak> scummbar, I've had ubotu msg luis several times. He's just feigning ignorance and spamming
[01:23] <seth_k|lappy> thanks Seveas, I appreciate it :)
[01:23] <Seveas> seth_k|lappy, de nada
[01:23] <mpatton> polpak: i only have one partition on my drive
[01:23] <CodyDH> mwe: Ok...
[01:23] <Seveas> just use the !ops trigger :)
[01:24] <luis> hola scummbar
[01:24] <luis> estas
[01:24] <seth_k|lappy> Seveas, he's back :P
 ops witha  trigger...scary...<s>
[01:24] <polpak> mpatton, well you can use parted to make 2
[01:24] <LemLapUbuntu> yup
[01:24] <mpatton> polpak thanks.
[01:24] <mwe> Seveas: will !ops actually get the ops attention?
[01:24] <polpak> mpatton, just resize your original one
[01:24] <LemLapUbuntu> it's doing all 800 packages
[01:24] <LemLapUbuntu> upto 266 now
[01:24] <polpak> mpatton, to make room
[01:24] <LemLapUbuntu> this is gonna take awhile
[01:24] <polpak> mpatton, ubuntu (the OS part) only needs at most like 5 gigs
[01:25] <LemLapUbuntu> stupid 512kbit adsl
[01:25] <mpatton> very nice
[01:25] <echeese> How do I get dualboot working?
[01:25] <Seveas> mwe, yes
[01:25] <mpatton> thanks for the info
[01:25] <polpak> mpatton, sure thing
[01:25] <Seveas> mwe, so don't abuse it
[01:25] <JoeBlow> can someon help me out with cvs cedega please?
[01:25] <mwe> Seveas: of course not
[01:25] <polpak> mpatton, you can then just mount the 2nd partition as your home when you install breezy
[01:26] <JoeBlow> can someone , anyone, please help me out here with cvs cedega
[01:26] <polpak> JoeBlow, nope. I just use wine.. And even that grudgingly.
[01:26] <Eugman> echeese I found this video perfect when I installed a dual boot setup for ubuntu video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu
[01:27] <echeese> Ooh
[01:27] <JoeBlow> polpak: im using a tutorials, and it tells me to run a file, but i dont know where that file is or something
[01:27] <echeese> Thanks Eugman
[01:27] <Eugman> np
[01:27] <polpak> JoeBlow, what file does it say to run?
[01:27] <JoeBlow> polpak: cvscedega
[01:27] <leddt> Hey can any body help me? I have a boot problem related to xserver (using livecd amd64). Private message please!
[01:28] <polpak> JoeBlow, dunno
[01:28] <JoeBlow> polpak: is their a way to search the harddrive?
[01:28] <polpak> JoeBlow, locate filename
[01:28] <mwe> leddt: why not keep it public so other people can benefit from it?
[01:29] <JoeBlow> polpak: where do i put the harddrive name in their?
[01:29] <Eugman> Does anyone here know why php might not be working properly but the html is fine?
[01:29] <mwe> Eugman: yeah the module is not loaded or set up correctly
[01:29] <polpak> JoeBlow, you don't. It searches the locate database which is built from all the files on your filesystem
[01:29] <mwe> Eugman: read !lamp
[01:29] <Eugman> I did
[01:29] <leddt> alright, I get an error when xserver is starting, it says no screens found. I am pretty new to linux in general so I have no idea where to look.
[01:29] <Eugman> I'l re read but I'm sure I did what it said
[01:30] <cvt|gnuyear> is there not a .wav player that has a repeat button?
[01:30] <hou5ton> I didn't find how to do this in Keyboard shortcuts ... is there a way to make the "windows" key on my keyboard be a hot button to open Synaptic?
[01:30] <echeese> Can ubuntu write to ntfs?
[01:30] <bur[n] er> echeese: if you get the captive NTFS driver
[01:31] <bur[n] er> hou5ton: gconf-editor  ... apps -> metacity -> global-keybindings
[01:31] <stoneage> ntfs is evil
[01:31] <Eugman> no echeese
[01:31] <stoneage> fat32 rules!
[01:31] <hou5ton> bur[n] er:  I thought the answer to echeese's question was NO ... are you saying I CAN write to NTFS?
[01:31] <polpak> hou5ton, just be sure you bind to the command gksudo synaptic
[01:31] <bur[n] er> george bush is evil, ntfs is just proprietary
[01:32] <Eugman> Well generally speaking no
[01:32] <bur[n] er> hou5ton: yes, with captive NTFS driver... like i said
[01:32] <Aven> how do I stop ubuntu from making random noises?
[01:32] <navarone> Aven define "random noises"
[01:32] <cafuego> Aven: Unplug the speakers
[01:32] <stoneage> Aven: stop using drugs
[01:32] <leddt> any idea anyone?
[01:32] <cafuego> Call ghostbusters
[01:32] <Aven> do you guys sit here to flame or help?
[01:32] <stoneage> lol
[01:33] <stoneage> flame
[01:33] <stoneage> obisously
[01:33] <Eugman> Aven: Large hammer? You need to specify the source. is it from the speakers or the computer.
[01:33] <lightbright> Aven: dont judge
[01:33] <Aven> you're doing a good job, twat
[01:33] <Blackoak> Is this the correct channel for help with ubuntu?
[01:33] <bur[n] er> leddt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <cafuego> Aven: If you define the problem a bit better we MIGHT be able to help.
[01:33] <echeese> I'm just getting ready for linux
[01:33] <Aven> Eugman: the fuckinh computer
[01:33] <Aven> distro, actually
[01:33] <lightbright> Aven: why do you think you are a twat?
[01:33] <echeese> What about windows network shares?
[01:33] <cafuego> Aven: Mind you, abusing people here isn't goign to make them want to help you more.
[01:33] <Aven> I'm not the only one that gets the random annoying noises
[01:33] <CodenameKT> blackoak:yes
[01:33] <cafuego> Aven: WHAT random annoying noises?
[01:33] <Aven> cafuego: you're the one that started the fucking flame, so hush up
[01:34] <JoeBlow> polpak: shit now it gives me an authentication error, what does that mean?
[01:34] <cafuego> !tell Aven about coc
[01:34] <mixandgo> hello everyone, any ideea on how to install emacs-cvs on ubuntu ?
[01:34] <Seveas> !tell Aven about attitude
[01:34] <navarone> Aven are you talking noises like event sounds or rumbling in your puter case?
[01:34] <JoeBlow> cvs wine gives me "authentication error" when loading profiles, any ideas?
[01:34] <lightbright> Aven: are you still taking your depression medication?
[01:34] <cvt|gnuyear> xine gets stuck everytime i try to play a file.
[01:34] <cafuego> lightbright: Stop it
[01:34] <leddt> thanks burner I'll go try that
[01:34] <lightbright> cafuego: hey, dont tell me what to do like that in public unless you are an op!
[01:34] <stoneage> aplay strange_sound.wav
[01:35] <cafuego> lightbright: Seveas is my bot. Beware!
[01:35] <JoeBlow> cvs wine gives me "authentication error" when loading profiles, any ideas?
[01:35] <lightbright> cafuego: besides, i had finished anyway
[01:35] <Blackoak> I'm looking to find out which package the rpcgen program is part of in ubuntu breezy, does anyone know?
[01:35] <lightbright> cafuego: im NOW im on guard :)
[01:35] <Seveas> cafuego, lightbright, relax...
[01:35] <hou5ton> bur[n] er:  you wrote gconf-editor ..... I'm not sure what you want me to do with that?
[01:36] <lightbright> cafuego: i had finished anyway, just dont like seeing nice people like you getting ripped by others :)
[01:36] <lightbright> Seveas: ok :)
[01:36] <cvt|gnuyear> I get strange_sound.wav too
[01:36] <cafuego> lightbright: Stop calling me nice *kick* ;-)
[01:37] <lightbright> cafuego: lol :)
[01:37] <Blackoak> I thought that rpcgen was part of the basic glibc install but apparently it's not :)
[01:37] <dueyfinster> How'd you do gedit without a gui?
[01:37] <Seveas> cafuego, take your hidden fantasies to -offtopic kplzthxbye
[01:37] <Seveas> dueyfinster, nano
[01:37] <cafuego> dueyfinster: not
[01:37] <Seveas> :)
[01:37] <cafuego> dueyfinster: you need to use an editor without an X gui, like nano, or vim, or emacs.
[01:38] <Determinist> vim/emacs are evul
[01:38] <navarone> Blackoak try in terminal "dpkg -Lrpcgen"
[01:38] <Determinist> having to learn how to use a text editor makes no sense to me
[01:38] <navarone> Blackoak try in terminal "dpkg -L rpcgen" <-- sorry
[01:38] <cvt|gnuyear> Is there any working media players out there?
[01:38] <cafuego> Determinist: Then use nano.
[01:38] <JoeBlow> how come the locate file does nothing for me?
[01:38] <cvt|gnuyear> are
[01:39] <Eugman> Anyone have any idea on how I can figure out the source of my php problem?
[01:39] <JoeBlow> i run locate command and it does nothing
[01:39] <hou5ton> polpak:  I don't understand what you mean by gksudo binding ???
[01:39] <cafuego> Seveas: I wouldn't exactly call them hidden <heh>
[01:39] <Determinist> cafuego, i do :)
[01:39] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Hopw are you running it?
[01:39] <Manjunk> hieyoas all!
[01:39] <sfire||mouse> JoeBlow: try running updatedb
[01:39] <JoeBlow> cafuego: locate cvscedega
[01:39] <Blackoak> Looks like -L is an incorrect option to dpkg
[01:39] <dueyfinster> This may be a silly qust
[01:40] <Manjunk> i have a quiestionnaireas, kinda newb i guess, but im not used to linx >_<
[01:40] <polpak> hou5ton, you have to use gksudo for synaptic otherwise you won't have proper permissions
[01:40] <polpak> Manjunk, linx or linux?
[01:40] <dueyfinster> howd ypu use options in  nano?
[01:40] <cafuego> JoeBlow: locate runs on a database that's indexed at 6:25 am. if you downloaded AFTER 6:25, it won't locate it until tomorrow.
[01:40] <Manjunk> linux** ubuntu, specifically (this is my first time running linux)
[01:40] <navarone> Blackoak..hmm...that's what dpkg -help says tho
[01:40] <polpak> Manjunk, ah, ok
[01:40] <cafuego> JoeBlow: Try 'find / -iname "*cvscedega*"'
[01:41] <JoeBlow> cafuego: ok one second
[01:41] <Eugman> Well go ahead and ask manjunk
[01:41] <JoeBlow> cafuego: god damn cvs cedega is giving me problems installing
[01:41] <mixandgo> any ideea on how to install emacs-cvs on ubuntu ?
[01:41] <navarone> Blackoak try with -S instead
[01:41] <Manjunk> synaptic package manager is only giving me version 1.07 of firefox, and the website has 1.5 available for update
[01:41] <hou5ton> polpak:  ok ... i think I got that part ... now ... where do I start?   I'm not sure what was meant for me to do with gconf-edit ..... apps etc.
[01:41] <Seveas> mixandgo, apt-get build-dep emacs
[01:41] <cafuego> Manjunk: breezy has 1.0.7 as newest version.
[01:41] <Seveas> then get the source
[01:42] <Seveas> and do the configure make make install dance
[01:42] <Manjunk> i downloaded the .tar.gz  file, now i need to find a way to actually get it to work =/
[01:42] <polpak> Manjunk, 1.5 will be in the next version of ubuntu
[01:42] <polpak> Manjunk, is there a reason you 'must' use 1.5?
[01:42] <xiaogil> What does bluejob mean ?
[01:42] <navarone> I can't do that dance...two left feet...<sigh>
[01:42] <Manjunk> oohh, i cant download the program myself and get it working?
[01:42] <Sunbug> What package gives me the /lib/modules/$KERNEL-VERSION/build folder?
[01:42] <xiaogil> Sorry, what does blowjob mean ?
[01:42] <Blackoak> It lists a syntax file from vim-common
[01:42] <cafuego> Seveas: Nono, cp -a debian; edit debian/changelog; and dpkg-buildpackage -b often work fine. (and result in a .deb!)
[01:42] <Blackoak> hmmmm
[01:42] <JoeBlow> when i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure
[01:42] <polpak> Manjunk, You can, but it would not be easy for a self proclaimed linux newb
[01:42] <Manjunk> not a "must", just a very very useful javascript plugin i saw requires the isntall of some other program, that only uses 1.5
[01:42] <dueyfinster> Please I just need info on how to use options in Nano at th bottom, can anyone help me?
[01:43] <Manjunk> ha! i know ^_^
[01:43] <cvt|gnuyear> What do you do on ubuntu?
[01:43] <polpak> duende, the ^ indicates CTRL
[01:43] <stoneage> just use mozilla.org binaries or compile it yourself
[01:43] <echeese> How do I make samba shares?
[01:43] <polpak> dueyfinster, so ^O would be CTRL-)
[01:43] <polpak> dueyfinster, err CTRL-O
[01:43] <jdong> umm, what's prat.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <cafuego> !tel Manjunk -about ff1.5
[01:43] <ubotu> cafuego: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:43] <navarone> duey...most function require you to press ...I believe...ctrl and key to perform action...like ctrl-x to close or exit...maybe shift and key though
[01:44] <cafuego> !tell Manjunk -about ff1.5
[01:44] <jdong> we have some forum peoople concerned about seemingly random netstat connections to prat.ubuntu.com
[01:44] <dueyfinster> polpak thanks!
[01:44] <cafuego> Manjunk: See the url ubotu gave you.
[01:44] <jdong> it has a very weird front page, too
[01:44] <JoeBlow> when i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure
[01:44] <mixandgo> Seveas, E: Unable to find a source package for emacs
[01:44] <Manjunk> aahh, thanks
[01:44] <mcphail> Has anyone managed to install mythtv under amd64?
[01:44] <jdong> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113085 for forum topic
[01:44] <echeese> Um, how do I get Flash player working under AM64
[01:45] <cafuego> echeese: in a 32bit chroot
[01:45] <hou5ton> polpak:  ok ... i think I got that part ... now ... where do I start?   I'm not sure what was meant for me to do with gconf-edit ..... apps etc.
[01:45] <slashx1896> Can someone help me copy a movie to a blank dvd??
[01:45] <echeese> cafuego: Are there instructions?
[01:46] <mcphail> !chroot
[01:46] <ubotu> methinks chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[01:46] <cafuego> echeese: The only ones I've seen were for Debian. To be honest, if you need flash you're better off installing 32bit Ubuntu.
[01:46] <mcphail> echeese: the second url
[01:46] <JoeBlow> when i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure, anyone know how to help this?
[01:46] <polpak> jdong, I haven't seen anything like that from my system
[01:47] <slashx1896> anyone? ive tryed other things but im confused... i just wanna copy my movie to a blank dvd
[01:47] <JoeBlow> slashx1896, tried gnomebacker?
[01:47] <slashx1896> gnomebacker does it?
[01:47] <JoeBlow> slashx1896, tried gnomebaker?
[01:47] <JoeBlow> slashx1896, im pretty sure
[01:47] <slashx1896> itry
[01:48] <slashx1896> how do i get the dvd image?
[01:48] <slashx1896> from my dvd.
[01:49] <polpak> hou5ton, applications->system tools->configuration editor
[01:49] <JoeBlow> when i load a profile in WineCVS it tells me Authentication failure, anyone know how to help this?
[01:50] <hou5ton> polpak:  oh ... ok ... thanks
[01:50] <polpak> hou5ton, then in there go to apps->metacity->keybinding commands and global keybindings
[01:50] <slashx1896> anyone? how do i get the dvd image from my movi so i can burn it to a play dvd
[01:50] <slashx1896> movie*
[01:50] <Toma-> JoeBlow: you mean cedergacvs?
[01:51] <xiaogil> how to watch a dvd image ?
[01:51] <cvt|gnuyear> i have never learned how to fix any problem in a help file.
[01:51] <Linuturk> anyone know of a good reference for linux? any good books?
[01:51] <JoeBlow> Toma: im using this http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[01:51] <echeese> How do I copy a dvd?
[01:51] <cvt|gnuyear> i
[01:51] <cvt|gnuyear> i'd like to know, also
[01:51] <joey222> he dam config file from root
[01:52] <Toma-> slashx1896: is it copy protected?
[01:52] <polpak> Linuturk, which aspect are you trying to learn?
[01:52] <Toma-> echeese: cpdvd
[01:52] <slashx1896> Toma- not sure
[01:52] <echeese> Toma-: What if it's css-encoded?
[01:52] <Linuturk> polpak, anything in general. An overall view, and some ubuntu/debian based stuff would be nice
[01:52] <navarone> Linuturk, for linux in general I would suggest Linux Desk Reference by Scott hawkins...has pretty much all commands listed with examples of usage
[01:52] <slashx1896> Toma-, how do i find out if it is?
[01:53] <joey222> is der book on ubuntu all in
[01:53] <polpak> Linuturk, much of learning is just using it. In the same way that you learned windows by trying to make it do something. the same is true for linux
[01:53] <JoeBlow> anyone had luck with this  http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[01:53] <navarone> Linuturk, or you can google rutebook and dl the pdf file...it is pretty comprehensive and well written
[01:53] <RedRose> is there a chat server, either local for users, or over the internet, other then IRC, like using standard text
[01:54] <Linuturk> polpak, right, but I've also learned a lot by reading
[01:54] <cafuego> RedRose: try 'ytalk'
[01:54] <Blackoak> I am trying to find out which package contains the program rpcgen, can anyone help me out?
[01:54] <RedRose> i've tryied ytalk and talk and they both don't work...
[01:54] <ompaul> cafuego, now there is something I have not used in an era
[01:54] <echeese> What do linux users have for voice chat?
[01:54] <cafuego> !find rpcgen
[01:55] <cafuego> ompaul: :-)
[01:55] <RedRose> plus, i'm looking for something that iwll allow like 15 users to chat at one time
[01:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'rpcgen' (3 shown): (/usr/bin/rpcgen) in libdevel/libc6-dev ;; (/usr/bin/ocamlrpcgen) in universe/libdevel/librpc-ocaml-dev ;; (/usr/share/vim/vim63/syntax/rpcgen.vim) in editors/vim-common.
[01:55] <navarone> actually...Linuturk rutebook is available tyrhu synaptic I think
[01:55] <cafuego> RedRose: They do require a talk server to be running
[01:55] <Blackoak> Is that for breezy?
[01:55] <cafuego> Blackoak: WIll that do?
[01:55] <cafuego> Blackoak: yes
[01:55] <navarone> tyrhu=thru
[01:55] <Toma-> slashx1896: it'll tell you when you try to copy it
[01:55] <slashx1896> ahh i have 2 problems i cant play dvds and i cant copy/burn them.. i rather fix copy/burn since i need a dvd copied by tomorrow
[01:56] <slashx1896> how do i copy it lol
[01:56] <Toma-> echeese: cpdvd should find the css keys are decode them for you
[01:56] <DRAGON_Ultra> use k3b
[01:56] <Linuturk> cool, thanks
[01:56] <slashx1896> shoot brb
[01:56] <echeese> Toma-: Will it burn it to another blank dvd?
[01:56] <Toma-> k3b doesnt use css, unless you compile it yourself
[01:57] <Toma-> echeese: no, it'll make an iso, which you then copy to a dvd
[01:57] <dueyfinster> I got xserver working I just need the command to use the backup configuration settings.
[01:57] <Blackoak> Oh my that worked wonderuflly :)  I am so happy thanks everyone!!
[01:57] <echeese> Toma-: Can I make it fit on a 4.7 gb disc?
[01:57] <Toma-> echeese: is it a dual layed dvd?
[01:57] <echeese> Yes
[01:58] <Toma-> youll need to re-encode it :/
[01:58] <Toma-> use acidrip. i find its the easiest
[01:58] <slashx1896> Alrite back
[01:58] <slashx1896> Toma- so what do i use to copy the dvd to my computer so i can burn it?
[01:58] <JoeBlow> can someone please help me out with cvs cedega??
[01:58] <dueyfinster> I got xserver working I just need the command to use the backup configuration settings.
[01:59] <Toma-> slashx1896: i use cpdvd
[01:59] <CptS> hi, where can i find a wma codec?
[01:59] <mwe> !w32codecs
[01:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:59] <CptS> !w32codecs
[02:00] <ompaul> dueyfinster, cp the contents of your /etc/X11 off to one side - this assumes you got your drivers backed up also, or the card is part of the great supported bunch
[02:00] <pluffsy> hello
[02:00] <jdong> polpak: well, some members of our forums are seeing it
[02:00] <ara> is there anyway to extract a .rar file in linux?
[02:00] <truz24> ara
[02:00] <pluffsy> Is it possible to listen to realaudio on ubuntu ppc?
[02:00] <slashx1896> Toma- can i get thhat through synaptic?
[02:00] <truz24> rarlabs.com
[02:00] <Toma-> slashx1896: of course :)
[02:00] <pluffsy> When I used ydl there was a realplayer.rpm but I haven't been able to find something for ubuntu.
[02:00] <cafuego> pluffsy: Yep. Install helix-player (or mplayer)
[02:00] <slashx1896> :D
[02:00] <vurdak> vado caio
[02:00] <mwe> ara: install unrar
[02:00] <Toma-> !info cpdvd
[02:00] <ubotu> cpdvd: (transfer a DVD title to your harddisk), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 1.10-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[02:01] <mwe> !info unrar
[02:01] <vurdak> i'll go, bye bye
[02:01] <slashx1896> and does cpdvd copy the movie to my computer?
[02:01] <pluffsy> cafuego, ohh those can read realaudio. great. thanks.
[02:01] <dueyfinster> Ompaul I just need command to revert zorg cofig
[02:01] <Toma-> im using it right now actually.
[02:01] <ara> mwe ok
[02:01] <Toma-> slashx1896: yep
[02:01] <cafuego> pluffsy: mplayer would need the w32codecs
[02:01] <slashx1896> kk
[02:01] <hou5ton> polpak:  ok ... the best I can figure ... this is what I should do ... in keybinding_commands, I put "gksudo synaptic" in the key space, and then in the global_keybindings, I put Super_L in the corresponding run command.  Sound right?
[02:01] <mwe> ara: unrar-free or unrar-nonfree
[02:01] <pluffsy> cafuego, would be kind of hard under ubuntu ppc :)
[02:01] <pluffsy> but helix will work?
[02:02] <polpak> hou5ton, if Super_L is the right key.. I'm not sure what to use for the windows key
[02:02] <ara> mwe, ok
[02:02] <cafuego> pluffsy: yes, helix-player ought to work.
[02:02] <mwe> ara: for rar 3.0 files you need the nonfree one
[02:02] <slashx1896> brb all
[02:02] <ompaul> dueyfinster,  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /wherever
[02:02] <hou5ton> polpak:  ya ... I went into preferences and pushed it in the keyboard shortcuts, and that is what was automatically entered.
[02:02] <Sunbug> Hey, help me out guys.. What pack provides build folder in /lib/modules/$kernel-version
[02:03] <cafuego> Sunbug: kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:03] <hou5ton> polpak:  what does the "gksudo" do .... open it with my password already entered or something?
[02:03] <dueyfinster> Ompaul done
[02:03] <polpak> hou5ton, it causes it to prompt you for the password
[02:04] <hou5ton> polpak:  Looks like it works like a charm ... Thanks a bunch
[02:04] <polpak> hou5ton, cool
[02:05] <LemLapUbuntu> 75% done
[02:05] <dueyfinster> Ompaul what next?
[02:05] <ompaul> you have it backed up
[02:05] <mwe> isn't the kernel headers usually sufficient to build an external module?
[02:05] <Sunbug> cafuego: Hm. Package not found. ;\ Tested with linux-header-$version pack, but didnt get the build folder ;\
[02:05] <ompaul> dueyfinster, what else do you want to do with it?
[02:05] <dueyfinster> I want to revert to old copy
[02:06] <lowman62> is the person that recommended crossover to me earlier in here?
[02:06] <ompaul> dueyfinster, I assume you put something in here /wherever <<---
[02:06] <dueyfinster> Yes
[02:06] <CptS> !w32codecs
[02:06] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:07] <navarone> duey if /etc/X11/ has an xorg.conf with a ~ or .backup that may be your previous settings...<?>
[02:07] <coz> hello all
[02:07] <glick> helllo
[02:07] <glick> excuse me is there a guide somewhere on how to copy a music cd in ubuntu?
[02:07] <ompaul> dueyfinster, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - if you did not make a backup I doubt it if you have one - have a look in that directory
[02:07] <lowman62> you can get the w32codecs here ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[02:07] <coz>  I have an application i installed, a .deb package, named "sharpconstruct" but it won't run anyone use this before?
[02:08] <mwe> glick: I just use k3b. done
[02:08] <ompaul> 1am I have to split
[02:09] <hou5ton> how can I find this captive-ntfs?
[02:09] <lowman62> well if the person who recommended crossover is here..thank you I now can use adobe photoshop in ubuntu :)
[02:09] <Toma-> !captive-ntfs
[02:09] <ubotu> Toma-: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:09] <Sunbug> cafuego: Ah got it now. restricted pack. Thx.
[02:09] <hou5ton> lowman62:  what version?
[02:09] <glick> mwe, can it also convert mp3s to wav?
[02:09] <oneseventeen_> I'm running Breezy, and when I print from GIMP, I just get a bunch of text on my Epson stylus, but when I print a test page, I get the Ubuntu test page with colors just fine.
[02:09] <mwe> coz: you can't run a .deb file. you have to install it
[02:09] <navarone> dueyfinster, I have several backups of xorg.conf in my X11 folder...some software will make backups and may even assign dates to them if they have to change the file
[02:09] <lowman62> umm hold on i will tell you
[02:09] <coz> I already installed the .deb file but the executable will not start
[02:09] <lowman62> pro 5.0
[02:09] <oneseventeen_> the default command the GIMP uses to print is: lp -s -dStylus-Photo-R300 -oraw  (should I change that)?
[02:10] <mwe> glick: I don't know. I think so but I don't know if you have to do anything special to make it work since mp3 is nonfree
[02:10] <coz> The install procedure suggested NO dependencies or errors
[02:10] <Toma-> oneseventeen_: makesure you change the part with "Postscript" to Epson
[02:10] <glick> mwe, mp3 is free now
[02:10] <cvt|gnuyear> does help with ubuntu include kubuntu?
[02:10] <mwe> glick: no way
[02:10] <ataq> hey, whats the command to delete through the console?
[02:10] <glick> mwe, yeah they just released it
[02:11] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: yep
[02:11] <mwe> glick: really?
[02:11] <glick> the company who created mp3s
[02:11] <glick> yeah
[02:11] <mwe> glick: anyway ubuntu is still treating it like nonfree which means no support by default
[02:11] <kemik> glick:  care to provide links / info ?
[02:11] <glick> mwe, yeah probably cause when ubuntu was released it was still nonfree
[02:11] <dueyfinster> Navarone, any way to list and use these old config files?
[02:11] <glick> kemik, yeah sure hold up
[02:12] <coz> again, I am trying to run an application, after having installed it.
[02:12] <lowman62> glick check this out this may help http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php
[02:12] <oneseventeen_> Toma Thanks, I'll give that a try
[02:12] <coz> it is called "sharpconstruct"
[02:12] <coz> has onyone had experience with this applications?
[02:12] <navarone> duetfinsteri if they are in you /etc/X11/ folder you can copy backup onto xorg.conf to replace it...but you must do it as sudo
[02:13] <glick> http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html
[02:13] <dueyfinster> Navarone, howd I do that?
[02:13] <cvt|gnuyear> xine doesn't support exiting the app.
[02:14] <navarone> dueyfinster, see if you have any of the backups first
[02:14] <mwe> glick: that doesn't mean mp3 is free
[02:14] <dueyfinster> Navarone, youll need to guide me, I dunno how
[02:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can anyone help me with a printer problem ?
[02:14] <lowman62> cvt|gnuyear : click the x in the corner of the viewing screen
[02:14] <mwe> glick: it means they released a decoder that doesn't cost money.
[02:14] <glick> oh
[02:14] <cvt|gnuyear> lowman62, i did. it doesn't close
[02:14] <mwe> glick: mp3 is still propriatry
[02:14] <navarone> dueyfinster, are you using gnome?
[02:14] <glick> my bad then
[02:15] <polpak> glick, http://www.fluendo.com/press/releases/PR-2005-05.html
[02:15] <polpak> glick, whoops
[02:15] <dueyfinster> Navarone, yes
[02:15] <polpak> glick, http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/effects/mpeg/index.en.html
[02:15] <lowman62> cvt|gnuyear : wow that is weird..is it gXine?
[02:15] <Toma-> http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/
[02:15] <mwe> glick: I guess it will disabled in ubuntu by default still
[02:15] <cvt|gnuyear> lowman62, i don't think so.
[02:15] <coz> has anyone had experience with the application named "sharpconstruct'?
[02:15] <lowman62> cvt|gnuyear : are you using breezy?
[02:15] <SiN> Hi to all... can i have litte help????
[02:16] <cvt|gnuyear> lowman62, dapper
[02:16] <polpak> SiN, no meta questions pls. Just ask your question. If someone can answer it they will.
[02:16] <lowman62> cvt|gnuyear : ya see I use breezy so am not sure
[02:16] <navarone> dueyfinster, okay then go to places in top menu and go down to Computer...click filesystem and then etc...then X11...you can then see if you have any other xorg.confs as backups
[02:16] <lowman62> cvt|gnuyear : try here tho may have an answer http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php
[02:17] <SiN> thnx, when i type ./configure i have "C++ compiler cannot create executables" =(
[02:17] <Ophiocus> is there a way to "sudo" for a gnome drag and drop operation?
[02:17] <mwe> SiN: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:17] <polpak> SiN, have you already installed build-essentials ?
[02:17] <dueyfinster> Navarone, I can only use command line and debs on the cd
[02:17] <polpak> SiN, see mwe's post
[02:17] <SiN> no, i lame in linux
[02:17] <navarone> duey you are using live cd?
[02:18] <mwe> SiN: not to lame to type what I suggested :)
[02:18] <polpak> SiN, just go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:18] <lowman62> Ophiocus: go to Applications>System Tools>Run as different user
[02:18] <dueyfinster> Navarone, no
[02:18] <lowman62> Ophiocus: then everything you do is root
[02:18] <SiN> ok thanx again
[02:18] <mwe> Ophiocus: I don't know of anyway to do that
[02:18] <Infected_enigma> Hey I want to dual boot install Ubuntu onto my computer. I am using an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+. My question is that do I NEED to use the 64-bit edition, or can I use the 32-bit edition? Also if I use the 64-bit edition will it require 64-bit drivers as it would on windows 64-bit edition?
[02:19] <navarone> dueyfinster, I thought you said your were using gnome?
[02:19] <Ophiocus> i ll try what lowman62 says and report on my findings
[02:19] <Ophiocus> :)
[02:19] <dueyfinster> Navarone, I am, xserver is broken though
[02:19] <mwe> Ophiocus: unless the parent process is already priviledged of course :) but in that case gksudo is not needed, so ...
[02:19] <Kindred> Infected_enigma, you can use 32 if you wish, if you use 64 yes you will need 64 bit drivers
[02:19] <Infected_enigma> okay
[02:19] <Infected_enigma> thank you kindred
[02:19] <cvt|gnuyear> the bad part about data dvd burners is that they don't play back in any of my dvd players
[02:20] <Ophiocus> i get a permision denied when drag dropping a file from desktop to /
[02:20] <mwe> Ophiocus: yeah
[02:20] <Ophiocus> i ll sudo cp the $"%&
[02:20] <mwe> Ophiocus: you have to run your file manager with gksudo to do that
[02:20] <navarone> okay...dueyfinster...type cd /etc/X11 and press enter then type ls to list files in directory. If you have anything like xorg.conf_backup or such you are in business
[02:21] <SiN> now all ok, but at the end i have <configure: error: "Qt library is required to compile VyQChat!">
[02:21] <mwe> Ophiocus: it's actually a good thing everyone can't just do that just like that
[02:21] <Ophiocus> i know
[02:21] <cvt|gnuyear> when i talk about burning dvd's i'm referring to burning video files to a disk that will play in any dvd player
[02:21] <polpak> SiN, what are you trying to build?
[02:21] <cvt|gnuyear> but i suppose that's not real popular yet
[02:22] <mwe> Ophiocus: anyway gksudo nautilus would be a solution. I don't think you can drop and drag gksudo. not that I know of at least
[02:22] <SiN> VyQChat - lan broadcast(workin without server) chat... on w32 named Vypress Chat
[02:22] <navarone> cvt|gnuyear, when you figure it out you'll be a Happy Gnuyear...<s>
[02:22] <cvt|gnuyear> navarone, right on
[02:23] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: you wanna make your own dvd?
[02:23] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, yes but not just any dvd. a dvd that will play in any dvd player
[02:23] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: so like, a dvd? :P
[02:23] <dueyfinster> Navarone, I cd'd to it, how do I get it to list files?
[02:23] <Ophiocus> can i mount a .img file ?
[02:23] <Toma-> Ophiocus: nop
[02:24] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, no, too many ppl interpret that to mean data dvd.
[02:24] <navarone> dueyfinster, either "ls" or "dir" <-- without the quotes of course
[02:24] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: what format are u talking of then?
[02:24] <MarcN> Ophiocus: what is an img file? An image copy of a file system, say a CD?  Then use mount -o loop file.img /mnt
[02:24] <robertj> is 230w enough for any kind of decent video card these days?
[02:24] <cafuego> With quotes is fine too :-)
[02:24] <shooters> Is there a way to change the way fonts on GTK 1.x (e.g. VLC), gtk-theme-switch creates a .gtkrc, but doesn't take effect...
[02:24] <robertj> I'm looking at a 2.8 gig p4 with a 230w PSU
[02:24] <dueyfinster> Navarone I have got four xorg confs
[02:25] <Sunbug> How can i se whats packs are installed?
[02:25] <cafuego> robertj: Not for that Voodoo8 or whatever they had a year or two ago.
[02:25] <navarone> dueyfinster, what are their names?
[02:25] <Kindred> robertj: that's kinda low..
[02:25] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, the format that plays in all dvd players where video appears on the screen.
[02:25] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: thats a data disk...
[02:25] <cafuego> robertj: But 230W ought to be ok for cpu+gfx+1hdd+dvdrw
[02:25] <MarcN> Sunbug: synaptic is a gui to show you, or use the command like dpkg --list
[02:25] <cafuego> robertj: I wouldn't recommend adding much in the way of additional drives, though.
[02:26] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, data disks do not play in a single player i've ever seen.
[02:26] <SiN> last error <checking for Qt... ls: /lib/libqt*: No such file or directory>
[02:26] <cafuego> robertj: Or buy components and build yourself a machine. probably ends up being cheaper & better.
[02:26] <robertj> caf: I bet not
[02:26] <robertj> crap computer
[02:26] <MarcN> Sunbug: dpkg --list|grep ^ii will show what is currently installed.  apt-cache search SOMETHING will search all available packages and tell you what matches.
[02:26] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: youre saying, a dvd in the format of /audio_ts /video_ts isnt a valid dvd?
[02:26] <robertj> 2.8 gig p4/1gig/160gb DVD $301 after S&H
[02:26] <Toma-> because thats a data disk
[02:27] <dueyfinster> Navarone, I cant type much, I am on a pda,  it starts with  200601062345
[02:27] <cafuego> robertj: That's prolly have a SiS mobo
[02:27] <ale3hs> helo, does anyone know if there is a minilyric plugin for xmms or another linux player?
[02:27] <robertj> cafuego: it's a Dell
[02:27] <robertj> so I dunno what they use these days
[02:27] <cafuego> robertj: AVOID!!!!!!!!
[02:27] <robertj> and really the only thing I'm vaugely interested in is the onboard video
[02:27] <robertj> cafuego: Dells are "fine"
[02:27] <robertj> 301.23 goes a long way
[02:27] <navarone> dueyfinster, are you running ubuntu on a pda or just connected here now on one?
[02:27] <MarcN> cafuego: there is no accounting for taste ;-)
[02:28] <robertj> caf: if I add another HD & it's not spinning up, I would assume passive power draw is negligible?
[02:28] <dueyfinster> Navarone, no I got pc in front of me
[02:28] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i don't know. all i know is that data disks just store files and don't support playback in dvd players.
[02:28] <cafuego> robertj: if it runs low on available power it will crash, it won't just not spin up.
[02:29] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: dvd's are just a bunch of vobs (a form of mpeg) stored on a disk. what you reeeeally need, is the correct format of data, and the right directory tree
[02:29] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i get dvds at the store that play video on the screen. no such burning app i've installed has been able to burn a disk that plays the video.
[02:29] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: are you just putting an avi or mpeg straight onto a dvd?
[02:29] <robertj> caf: that I understand but I was just thinking I'd put this spare 40 in there just for a nightly backup
[02:30] <dueyfinster> Navarone, how would I use one of the backups
[02:30] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, yes
[02:30] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: i see. you need to 'master' the dvd video first, eg, encode it to a decent format for the dvd player, and give it a directory tree to read it all in.
[02:30] <navarone> okay dueyfinster sudo cp /etc/X11/<backupname> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:30] <cafuego> robertj: Well.. try and see how you go...
[02:31] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: you can do it all with qdvdauthor or something similar
[02:31] <robertj> I can always dump that if I need to
[02:32] <dueyfinster> Navarone, I will try reboot to see if it works
[02:32] <navarone> dueyfinster,  ok
[02:33] <copyoulater> anyone know where i can download the default ubuntu cursors without downloading a whole cd image
[02:34] <navarone> copyoulater, no idea...but nice nice all the same
[02:34] <copyoulater> i really like them
[02:34] <navarone> nice nick rather
[02:34] <copyoulater> ok
[02:35] <apollo2011> I had OpenOffice.org2.0 on an old Ubuntu installation, and now I installed it on a new Kubuntu installation and when I create a new database, none of the wizards open...
[02:35] <copyoulater> apollo2011 they must be out of mana
[02:36] <dilema> lo
[02:36] <apollo2011> lol
[02:36] <dilema> anyone know hwo to give root a real login?
[02:36] <dilema> instead of sudo su/sudo
[02:36] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, doesn't support any video file i have: .avi, .wmv, .mpg, .mov, .bin, etc.
[02:36] <copyoulater> dilema it is in the wiki or faq i think
[02:37] <dilema> ill giver her a looksy
[02:37] <ILikeLinux> cvt|gnuyear: use mplayer
[02:37] <nics__> sudo passwd root - will assign a password to root and allow you to login in
[02:37] <copyoulater> you do that
[02:37] <cvt|gnuyear> ILikeLinux, does it author dvd's?
[02:37] <cvt|gnuyear> burn dvd's
[02:37] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: it'll definitly support mpg
[02:38] <copyoulater> dvd's are a thing of the past
[02:38] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, not for me
[02:38] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: have you got transcode installed?
[02:39] <cvt|gnuyear> i don't know yet
[02:39] <cvt|gnuyear> looking...
[02:39] <Toma-> also cvt|gnuyear, have you got the QXineWidget enabled?
[02:39] <foot> dilema, look in your /etc/sudoers file too
[02:39] <vbgunz> anybody here use revelation, the passcard program? If so, How in the world do you apply the Revelation panel applet?
[02:39] <jahshua--> hi can anyone tell me the terminal command to update system and to update all packages?
[02:39] <jahshua--> please
[02:39] <jahshua--> sudo apt-get install update ?
[02:40] <dilema> aight
[02:40] <nics__> apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <MarcN> jahshua--: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <foot> sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:40] <dilema> thank you
[02:40] <jahshua--> ok cool
[02:40] <jahshua--> thanks
[02:40] <foot> dont do it marcN's way,
[02:40] <foot> && won't wait until update is finished
[02:40] <MarcN> foot: why not?
[02:40] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i'm installing transcode now. couldn't find qxinewidget yet
[02:41] <foot> && runs em simultaneously
[02:41] <jahshua--> MarcN: how often is it recommended to run those two commands
[02:41] <MarcN> foot: yes it does.  && checks the status of the frist.
[02:41] <jahshua--> ahhh too late hehe
[02:41] <MarcN> foot: you are wrong.
[02:41] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: its inside the qdvdauthor settings part
[02:41] <foot> dammit
[02:41] <jahshua--> i did em one by one
[02:41] <foot> foiled again.
[02:41] <copyoulater> is it true that ubuntu is for people that don't know how to use debian?
[02:41] <MarcN> foot: you are thinking;   sudo apt-get update & ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:41] <kemik> copyoulater:  funny ;)
[02:41] <fortyoz> copyoulater, its debian for the desktop.
[02:41] <cafuego> copyoulater: it's true that trolling isn't appreciated here.
[02:42] <BeOS_MrX> hey I have problems with my sound, there is no one on mandriva right now who know how to help properly, wondering if its something ubuntu users could try. i am using kde and manriva 2006
[02:42] <fortyoz> debian lacks a lot of the addons ubuntu has
[02:42] <foot> gotcha.  i didnt know that marcN :/
[02:42] <copyoulater> oh is debian supposed to be installed on palmpilots normally or something?
[02:42] <fortyoz> i use debian on my servers ubuntu on desktops
[02:42] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, yes it is set on qxinewidget
[02:42] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: the qdvdauthor webpage has a few helpful howtos >>> http://qdvdauthor.sourceforge.net/
[02:42] <bobby> how does one get the extra mplayer codecs for ubuntu?
[02:42] <PuMpErNiCkEl> hm
[02:42] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: cool. just add movie then ;D and make a menu
[02:42] <joey222> guys have a look ere: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1590596277/qid=1136511695/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/202-1163722-0864614
[02:42] <bobby> is there a repo for it ...or does it have to be compiled in?
[02:42] <copyoulater> i heard mandrake is better than ubuntu
[02:43] <fortyoz> copyoulater, try them both
[02:43] <kemik> !tell bobby about restricted
[02:43] <jahshua--> how often is it recommended to run those two commands
[02:43] <cafuego> !troll
[02:43] <ubotu> cafuego: I give up, what is it?
[02:43] <fortyoz> and decide.
[02:43] <joey222> ubuntu book coming in March
[02:43] <PuMpErNiCkEl> copyoulater: ask in #mandrake
[02:43] <bobby> copyoulater, you heard wrong....long time user of both and ubuntu beats mdk any day :P
[02:43] <cvt|gnuyear> Toma-, i'll get to reading and give it my best. that gives me a new direction. thx
[02:43] <Toma-> copyoulater: trolls belong under bridges. not in chat rooms :D
[02:43] <Knorrie> copyoulater: stop that
[02:43] <Toma-> cvt|gnuyear: no problem :)
[02:43] <copyoulater> what is troll
[02:43] <athlon> in konqueror, pressing ctrl-l to switch focus to address bar also clears it. How do I change that so it will keep the existing address ?
[02:43] <bobby> !FreeFormats
[02:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:43] <PuMpErNiCkEl> copyoulater: You, right now. :)
[02:43] <kemik> dont feed the troll
[02:43] <copyoulater> ok
[02:43] <jahshua--> how often is it recommended to run those two commands??
[02:44] <copyoulater> why do people still use fedora and especially why do people still use rpms shudder
[02:44] <kemik> bobby:  you want the restricted formats ;)
[02:44] <Toma-> copyoulater: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
[02:44] <Toma-> copyoulater: i use rpms. in a debian system :O
[02:44] <cafuego> jahshua--: update-daemon will automagically run that every morning and tell you if updates are available.
[02:44] <bobby> kemik, I know...dling it now, just checking out which ones have free equivs :d
[02:44] <bobby> :d
[02:44] <copyoulater> rpms are hideous
[02:44] <bobby> RPM is uber oldschool
[02:44] <kemik> aight ;)
[02:44] <copyoulater> automagically is such a great word
[02:44] <bobby> no one should use it :|
[02:45] <BeOS_MrX> rpms are easy, they are like .pkg for beos except rmps aren't as good
[02:45] <Toma-> copyoulater: thats your opinion. opinions are no help in chatrooms, imho.
[02:45] <BeOS_MrX> its linux's try at an 'easy installer'
[02:45] <ethan> Hi. Why would XSANE not that an recognize an (admittedly quite old) scanner that is supported and has the backend supposedly loaded?
[02:45] <navarone> lol Toma-
[02:45] <Toma-> BeOS_MrX: whens the last time a beos update came out? :D
[02:45] <jahshua--> do i have to reboot after updating and upgrading  ?
[02:45] <PuMpErNiCkEl> jahshua--: Only if it tells you to.
[02:45] <kemik> jahshua--:  generally no, depends on what you upgraded/updated
[02:45] <copyoulater> i like ubuntu because it is so automagic
[02:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> anyone here run linux on ipod nano?
[02:46] <Knorrie> jahshua--: only if your kernel gets upgraded
[02:46] <BeOS_MrX> Toma-: actually I just ordered yellowtab.com zeta and, an update came last month
[02:46] <jahshua--> and how is the kernel upgraded?
[02:46] <jahshua--> i have been wondering that
[02:46] <Toma-> ahh i tried zeta. it was pretty sxc.
[02:47] <PuMpErNiCkEl> jahshua--: Through apt-get... it downloads a new one, adds the entry to grub, yadda yadda yadda and next time you reboot, it defaults to the new one.
[02:47] <jahshua--> ok
[02:47] <jahshua--> so how do i know when to upgrade the kernel
[02:47] <Kindred> automagic again
[02:47] <PuMpErNiCkEl> jahshua--: If it shows up in your list of updates. :)
[02:47] <navarone> jahshua--, and you can uninstall older kernels as well to free up space...and entries are removed from grub menu as well
[02:47] <jahshua--> ahh cool
[02:48] <jahshua--> ok thanks everyone
[02:49] <Toma-> BeOS_MrX: so what brings you to ubuntu? :)
[02:49] <BeOS_MrX> its cool because its trying to make linux work for people who use beos and windows and mac
[02:49] <BeOS_MrX> things that mac sense and you can figure out without reading a manual
[02:50] <amilia> hello
[02:50] <Toma-> i see
[02:50] <amilia> i need help
[02:50] <fortyoz> heh i remember using beos on my old powermac
[02:50] <navarone> hello amilia
[02:50] <fortyoz> when i was like 13 :P
[02:50] <amilia> im a newbie
[02:50] <jahshua--> arent we all
[02:50] <jahshua--> hehe
[02:50] <navarone> amilia...that's okay...we don't bite...much...lol
[02:50] <amilia> hehe
[02:50] <Toma-> i think BeOS is the BEST platform for audio production. if i had a recording studio, id seriously consider beos over Mac's
[02:51] <fortyoz> Toma-, .. there aren't any decent apps though
[02:51] <amilia> i want to load my mp3s
[02:51] <Toma-> fortyoz: oh yes there is
[02:51] <amilia> im keeping my winxp
[02:51] <SweetestSavage> Anyone know of any desktop recording software? Something that records the desktop (IE, something like Fraps (http://www.fraps.com/)) for linux?
[02:51] <amilia> i mean how to mount my hda
[02:51] <Alvarock> Hello everybody
[02:52] <BeOS_MrX> Toma-: , except its only good in principle
[02:52] <ethan>  Can someone help me figure out why XSANE is not finding a scanner?
[02:52] <fortyoz> amilia, screwdriver and a saddle
[02:52] <Toma-> BeOS_MrX: how so?
[02:52] <BeOS_MrX> not practise, because all the 'useable' apps are either expensive things for single purpose or abandonware that you will never get the full version because its a gay demo
[02:53] <bimberi> SweetestSavage: istanbul (i've not used it though)
[02:53] <SweetestSavage> bimberi, thank you
[02:53] <Toma-> BeOS_MrX: you can port stuff to beos relatively easily tho, iirc
[02:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with a printer problem?
[02:53] <bimberi> SweetestSavage: np :)
[02:53] <foot> ethan, maybe.  what kind of scanner
[02:53] <BeOS_MrX> like tunetracker, its really good example on what beos can do, but its very limited users, you know what I mean ?
[02:54] <ethan> UMAX Powerlook II
[02:54] <BeOS_MrX> i mean, an app that makes 'sense' like that editing thing, the opensource one would be killer if on beos
[02:54] <Toma-> yeh
[02:55] <BeOS_MrX> except, you try and go on bebits.com and get a sound editor that's gonna cut some tracks up, well you're gonna be dissapointed
[02:55] <LemLapUbuntu> BeOs is an awesome os. just wan't ver successful
[02:55] <MarcN> foot: I'm back.  The nice thing about && is it only does the next command if the first one succeeded.  For example I want to create an iso from a directory and then delete the directory, but only if creating the iso worked.  So, I use mkisof -ofoo.iso somedir && rm -rf somedir   Nice and safe.
[02:55] <LemLapUbuntu> because it came befoer the whole linux puxh
[02:56] <foot> ethan, you seen this: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-supported-devices.html
[02:56] <BeOS_MrX> not only are you not going to find one that works or the link is working, but if it does actually do half-assed thing even close it will again be demoware
[02:56] <BeOS_MrX> and, ofcourse the link wont work and you'll never find it
[02:56] <ethan> Yes, it is supported.
[02:57] <user__> Navarone, you still here?
[02:57] <foot> or, ethan. more specifically: http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-umax.5.html
[02:57] <foot> MarcN, thanks, i didnt know that
[02:57] <MarcN> foot: you learn stuff after 20 years of hacking ;-)
[02:58] <foot> or, quickly in IRC :)
[02:59] <BeOS_MrX> but, good thien Toma- , I got zeta
[02:59] <BeOS_MrX> i mean, don't have it right now but i will be getting it in the mail this week. comes bundled with everything cool i want , that normal beos will never get
[02:59] <Toma-> BeOS_MrX: i only tried the beta :D (zeta beta!:O)
[03:00] <BeOS_MrX> hmm well i got this funny thing, buys RC1 with v1.0 upgrade CD, then go update to 1.1 :// kindof funky but I get cheaper to buy :/
[03:00] <nics__> also command1 || command2 will only execute command2 if command1 fails
[03:01] <nics__> && is AND, || is OR
[03:01] <Toma-> weird
[03:01] <BeOS_MrX> but you know if I would of known about Kubuntu it would be on this comp instead of mandriva right now
[03:01] <Toma-> thanks for that nics__
[03:02] <nics__> :-) nice to be able to answer one
[03:02] <BeOS_MrX> the ubuntu is something linux was without for far too long!
[03:02] <Toma-> BeOS_MrX: its all the same ...sort of.
[03:03] <ethan> Foot: I don't understand where the sane-umax library is. Synaptic Packet Manager doesn't find it.
[03:03] <S> little problem again.... when i type "./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3" i have: "checking correct functioning of Qt installation... failure"
[03:03] <cafuego> ethan: in /etc/sane.d/ probably.
[03:04] <SweetestSavage> bimberi, hmm.. it works and all.. but it doesnt seem to work for applications. Is there anything else?
[03:04] <SweetestSavage> bimberi, or perhaps you know of a good webcam recording software?
[03:04] <meepy> How do I get a trashcan on the desktop? :P I can't to see to have  working on you can right click on and emtpy it? Thanks
[03:04] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: xawtv
[03:05] <SweetestSavage> Toma-, thanks I'll have a look
[03:05] <ethan> Sorry for being an idiot, but is that /etc folder on my hd already?
[03:05] <SweetestSavage> Toma-, that's for webcams?
[03:06] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: its for video devices. itll work with a webcam
[03:06] <Toma-> ethan: yes
[03:06] <SweetestSavage> Toma-, okay, thank you
[03:06] <Kindred> meepy, through the configuration editor - Applications - System Tools - Configuration Editor
[03:06] <nics__> meepy gconf, apps->nautilus->desktop there are checkboxes
[03:07] <ethan> Found the document umax.conf. Do I copy and paste that into terminal?
[03:07] <khermans> Anyone know what the maximum number of players in a hockey penalty box is?  I am arguing with someone that it is 3!
[03:07] <Kindred> Still haven't figured out how to get my win partition off the desktop though.
[03:07] <Linuturk> can anyone seed the dapper amd 64 live torrent please?
[03:08] <meepy> Thanks!
[03:08] <meepy> Never knew about that
[03:08] <meepy> GOing to play in there >:)
[03:09] <Linfanguin> is there any scripts for ryhtmbox to show album cover or stuff like that
[03:10] <ethan> The only things in the sane.d folder are text documents...
[03:11] <PuMpErNiCkEl> khermans: My sister says it's two.
[03:12] <ethan> None are sane-umax or are called umax library or anything.
[03:12] <bimberi> SweetestSavage: sorry, i only know of istanbul :/
[03:13] <soci0path> penalty box Q.. you can have as many inthe box as have received penalties, but youare only penalised 2 people off max
[03:13] <nics__> Kindred - same place in gconf, uncheck Volumes Visible
[03:13] <SweetestSavage> Question - My webcam is no longer being detected, yet it worked fine yesterday. Any ideas?
[03:14] <Kindred> nics__, yeah but that does usb drives, cd's etc, I want those
[03:14] <nics__> ahhh oh well :-)
[03:14] <alphy> I'm trying to burn an audio disk and I can't get any files to show up as added.  I'm using Serpentine.
[03:15] <Kindred> nics_ yeah I think I can put up with it if I must :P
[03:15] <Toran> How can I play DRM-protected WMA files in ubuntu?
[03:15] <blueandwhiteg3> How can I determine the status of OpenGL on my Ubuntu system?
[03:16] <nics__> intrigued now as to how nautilus decides what to show
[03:16] <Toran> Better yet, how can I strip out the WMA so I can transfer it to my portable, which doesn't support DRM?
[03:16] <blueandwhiteg3> Toran: I don't think there is any legal way in the countries with DMCA-like laws...
[03:16] <UnknownPg> blueandwhite do you want to know like the graphics and such?
[03:16] <Linfanguin> where can i download rythmbox themes?
[03:16] <Toran> I live on an island.
[03:16] <Toran> My own island.
[03:16] <sampan> lol toran
[03:16] <blueandwhiteg3> Toran: Can I come and visit?
[03:16] <alphy> I need a good audio cd burning program,  any ideas?
[03:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toran: better to say, i live on a boat in international water.
[03:16] <Toran> If you tell me how to strip DRM out of WMA files ;-)
[03:16] <Kindred> blueandwhiteg3: glxinfo, I think
[03:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toran: convert it to mp3
[03:16] <Toran> alphy: k3b
[03:17] <cosmo_> can some one tell me why im getting this eror root@ubuntu:/home/cosmo# ./ati.run
[03:17] <cosmo_> -bash: ./ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run: Permission denied
[03:17] <alphy> toran, where do I get that?
[03:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> cosmo_: chmox +x to the file
[03:17] <BeOS_MrX> new app just release: kommunism for kubuntu. plays protected wma and wmv9 formats
[03:17] <Toran> alphy: apt-get install k3b
[03:17] <UnknownPg> cosmo
[03:17] <PuMpErNiCkEl> cosmo_: run 'chmod +x' on the .run file
[03:17] <UnknownPg> you can su
[03:17] <Toran> CanYouHelpMePlz: Hmm, can I convert it to a .wav?
[03:17] <UnknownPg> and then try
[03:17] <cosmo_> thanks
[03:17] <blueandwhiteg3> Toran: You're going to be in for a good time with DRM. It's always a bit of a mess...
[03:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toran: sure
[03:18] <Toran> With what prograM?
[03:18] <UnknownPg> blueandwhite if you are using a ati driver then you can do fglrxinfo
[03:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Toran: uhh sudo apt-cache search audio convert
[03:18] <nics__> Kindred: change the fstab entry and don't mount them in /media, seems to work for me
[03:18] <cosmo_> root@ubuntu:/home/cosmo# chmox +x ./ati.run
[03:18] <cosmo_> -bash: chmox: command not found
[03:18] <blueandwhiteg3> Toran: One easy route is to play it under another compatible arrangement and capture the audio samples.
[03:19] <ethan> Any thoughts on where to find the sane-umax library?
[03:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> cosmo_: sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run
[03:19] <Kindred> nics__ hm, I mounted it in /mnt and it was still there, maybe i'll try somewhere else.. or something, thanks though
[03:19] <blueandwhiteg3> UnknownPg: glxinfo does not give anything but the name of the display
[03:20] <foot> ethan, try 'locate umax'
[03:20] <foot> you may already have it
[03:20] <blueandwhiteg3> UnknownPg: I have an Intel GMA 900... which should in theory support OpenGL and XvMC
[03:20] <UnknownPg> yea
[03:20] <nics__> Kindred: did you reboot? just did that on mine I get my D drive on desktop but not C which is mounted in /mnt, I am using Dapper Drake though, not sure if that makes a difference
[03:20] <foot> if its usb, usbview might help you check if its plugged in, or 'cat /proc/usb'
[03:20] <blueandwhiteg3> I have even reviewed the source code to verify XvMC support.
[03:21] <bimberi> ethan: do a contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:21] <Kindred> yeah sure did, I might have another go later, it's not a huge issue I just like to complain about it
[03:21] <LightShear> hey everyone I have a server question
[03:21] <nics__> lol I know the feeling, the problem I start to fixate on it :-)
[03:22] <blueandwhiteg3> oooops, client died
[03:22] <cosmo_>  did this install it or what did it do cosmo_: sudo chmod 777 ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run
[03:22] <blueandwhiteg3> Ultimately, I am trying to accelerate VLC because I can only get x11 video output working, and I know OpenGL would allow me to hand off the colorspace (YUV->RGB) conversion to the GPU.
[03:23] <LightShear> not sure how to word it, actually, but I installed server without being connected to the net. How do I get it to connect now?
[03:23] <LightShear> or cant it?
[03:23] <cosmo_> it dosent say anything after i do this
[03:23] <blueandwhiteg3> I believe that "XVideo extension video output" under VLC would even enable XvMC, among other things, to hand off the MPEG motion compensation to the GPU.
[03:23] <madmax> does anybody use mplayer?
[03:23] <blueandwhiteg3> However, I am not sure how to even determine the status of OpenGL under Ubuntu at the moment!
[03:24] <BeOS_MrX> sound in opera won't work HELP
[03:24] <ethan> Alright, it's in usr/lib/sane... so why is't SANE finding the scanner?
[03:25] <cosmo_> thanks for the help it works
[03:25] <cosmo_> sorry for stupid questions
[03:25] <alphy> why is k3b telling me .mp3 is an unsupported format?
[03:25] <psusi> because it is
[03:25] <alphy> psusi, you talking to me?
[03:26] <psusi> alphy, yea
[03:26] <alphy> psusi, so how do I burn mp3s as an audio disk?
[03:26] <sampan> !info k3b-mp3
[03:26] <ubotu> k3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[03:26] <psusi> convert them to wav
[03:26] <sampan> alphy, install that k3b-mp3 package in universe?
[03:27] <BeOS_MrX> sound in opera won't work HELP
[03:27] <alphy> sampan, no, let me try that
[03:27] <ethan> It's not a USB connection, it's this ridiculous old 25-pin I-forget-what-they're called
[03:27] <sampan> i haven't burned an mp3 disk in k3b yet, but i did install that package a while back ... ymmv
[03:28] <jason_> hey gang, i'm new to linux, setup ubuntu a couple days ago, installed apache, mysql, php, and wordpress, and had everything up and running fine last night, but after i restarted ubuntu this morning and went to my wordpress site it was unable to connect to the db, i'm guessing mysql isn't set to autostart with bootup, and the directions on mysql's site didn't work for me, any help?
[03:29] <Kindred> jason_, check System - Administration - Services
[03:30] <criminal> hey ppl, anyone here that can advise me on a good p2p prog and how to install it
[03:30] <BeOS_MrX> criminal: - I use limewire and it works great on linux
[03:30] <BeOS_MrX> except that the playing music on it doesnt work with me
[03:31] <BeOS_MrX> but,its main focus is to download
[03:31] <criminal> i know
[03:31] <criminal> i used limewire on windows alor
[03:31] <criminal> *alot
[03:31] <criminal> but i can't get it to work on ubuntu
[03:31] <criminal> i converted the file from .rpm to .deb using alien, installed and it still doesn't work
[03:32] <Kindred> !limewire
[03:32] <ubotu> well, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[03:32] <sampan> Voila!
[03:33] <jason_> kindred, i'm running xfce cause i was having way too many stability problems with gnome, i don't see administration under system, or services
[03:33] <criminal> java or java runtime ??
[03:33] <mojo56> can anyone tell me how to find out what I need to put into my /etc/modules file so that the sound module boots up properly so I can turn off hotplug?
[03:33] <Kindred> jason_, ah ok
[03:34] <jason_> i found system monitor, and i shows mysqld and mysqld_safe sleeping
[03:35] <LemLapUbuntu> ok got a new problem
[03:35] <LemLapUbuntu> seems to have hung
[03:35] <LemLapUbuntu> setting up libsrvg2-common
[03:35] <cyphase> has anyone used http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 to set up a server?
[03:35] <UbuntuRob> What is the best linux backup Utility???
[03:36] <mojo56> cyphase, why not use Nubuntu?
[03:36] <ethan> So any ideas on how to help sane find my scanner?
[03:36] <mwe> UbuntuRob: tar, probably
[03:36] <MasterTsunami> why would you use nubuntu :/
[03:36] <UbuntuRob> tar?
[03:36] <cyphase> mojo56, nUbuntu is a network admin tool
[03:37] <Neurosis> any programs out there so i can get into my cable modem settings via linux?
[03:37] <cyphase> to detect breaches and stuff
[03:37] <mwe> UbuntuRob: yes.
[03:37] <mojo56> oops, I misunderstoon that :)
[03:37] <cyphase> "nUbuntu is a collection of network and server security testing tools, piled on top of the existing Ubuntu system. While aimed to be mainly a security testing platform, nUbuntu also operates as a desktop enviroment for the advanced linux user."
[03:37] <cyphase> oh
[03:37] <UbuntuRob> ok. i'll check it out. Thanks!!
[03:37] <MasterTsunami> i mean why did they make nubuntu? what makes ubuntu better to make a security live cd platform than slax or knoppix :/
[03:38] <cyphase> so has anyone used http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.10 ?
[03:38] <Kindred> ethan, what is your scanner? ..
[03:38] <jason_> so, wordpress worked fine lastnight connecting to my blog db in mysql, but after i restarted it longer can connect, I thought mysql wasn't set to autostart but mysqld and mysqld_safe are in my process list, i'm not sure what to do now
[03:39] <mwe> cyphase: I would strongly recommend not to use the same alias for two ip addresses
[03:39] <jason_> no longer*
[03:39] <mwe> cyphase: the dude suggests that
[03:39] <pramz> jason_: can you connect to the MySQL Server using the blog's credentials ?
[03:39] <ethan> UMAX PowerLook II. Library is there.
[03:40] <cyphase> mwe, i know
[03:40] <mwe> cyphase: also why would he set a root password
[03:40] <cyphase> but other then that..
[03:40] <GenneX> is there a way to use sudo apt-get to install a p2p program ??
[03:40] <mwe> cyphase: I don't like that either in ubuntu
[03:40] <jason_> i can try, im just not sure how to do that at the command line
[03:40] <mwe> cyphase: just use sudo -i to get a root prompt
[03:40] <cyphase> mwe, i know :)
[03:40] <cyphase> but i mean in general
[03:40] <pramz> jason_: mysql -u <username> <database> -p
[03:40] <pramz> that will bring up a password prompt
[03:41] <mojo56> anyone?  enabling sound in /etc/modules?
[03:41] <pramz> so for example : mysql -u wpuser wpdb -p
[03:41] <jason_> k, thanks, lemme try that now
[03:41] <Adross> there is something wrong with my samba install. Firstly, it doesn't start up at boot up, and now, when i try to start it up manually via '/etc/init.d/samba start' i get '/usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found
[03:41] <Adross> /etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 10294 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --exec /usr/sbin/smbd -- -D
[03:41] <Adross>                                                                          [fail] 
[03:41] <Adross> '
[03:41] <mwe> cyphase: I think it lacks explanations of what's going on
[03:42] <pramz> Adross: type testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:42] <jason_> access denied for user 'wordpress@localhost" (using password: yes)
[03:42] <Adross> pramz: I now have a dump of my configurations
[03:42] <pramz> does it show any errors ?
[03:43] <Adross> none are listed
[03:43] <cyphase> mwe, have you used the guide?
[03:43] <pramz> also you are starting it under root or using sudo right ?
[03:43] <jason_> "Error 1045: Access denied for user: 'wordpress@localhost' (Using password: YES)"
[03:43] <mwe> cyphase: no. I just went over it quickly
[03:43] <jason_> oh no, i guess that's why, lemme use sudo =\
[03:44] <Adross> pramz: uh...that was a test...you passed...
[03:44] <cyphase> ah
[03:44] <Adross> pramz: man i feel dumb, thanks heaps
[03:44] <pramz> Adross: heh man no worries :)
[03:44] <GenneX> anyone here used kpackage before ??
[03:44] <Adross> odd, it's still not working though
[03:44] <pramz> jason_: doesnt have to be used under sudo
[03:45] <Adross> ah, got it
[03:45] <Adross> anyhoo, cheerio
[03:45] <Adross> thanks heaps
[03:45] <heatxsink> anyone in here have a saa7134 card?
[03:45] <heatxsink> tv card*
[03:45] <mwe> cyphase: I don't like instructions that don't explain what they do. also he seems to forget the very important step of installing mysql, to set the root password. it seems like he just expects it to be set already after apt-get install mysql-server
[03:45] <pixelfairy> `Suggests' field, invalid package name `openoffic@': character `@' not allowed - only letters, digits and -+._ allowed
[03:45] <chris_> I have an ati radeon 9250 card which was previously recognized on ubuntu 64 bit edition now on regular i386 install it will not recognize card. Can someone help
[03:45] <pixelfairy> anyone else get that?
[03:46] <jason_> ok, but i just tried it and this time it wouldn't accept my password, i'm gonna log into mysql as root and change my wordpress user password
[03:46] <cyphase> reiserfs in breezy supports quota, right?
[03:46] <cyphase> chris_, i've tried that card
[03:46] <mwe> cyphase: yes
[03:46] <cyphase> it's not working
[03:46] <chris_> no it's not
[03:46] <chris_> it did in the 64 bit version of ubuntu though
[03:47] <cyphase> hmm
[03:47] <mojo56> fine... anyone know how I can find out which module ubuntu loaded for my sound?
[03:47] <mwe> mojo56: lsmod
[03:47] <mwe> mojo56: or lsmod|grep snd
[03:48] <mojo56> many thanks :) now to sort through all of thaty
[03:48] <cafuego> how peculair
[03:49] <mojo56> does snd_intel8x0 seems like the one that I need to add to /etc/modules?
[03:49] <jason_> well, now that's weird...
[03:50] <GenneX> anyone here that can awnser a few questions for me about ubuntu installation and removing of packages
[03:50] <jason_> i reset the password to the same thing it was before, then i entered "flush privileges;" and reloaded my blog and it came right up
[03:50] <LoneWolf071> what's the banner file name for SSHD?
[03:50] <LoneWolf071> not the one when you connect, but when you login
[03:50] <jason_> what does flush privileges do magically, and would i have to do this all the time now after restarting
[03:51] <aTypical> Hello
[03:51] <mwe> jason_: you should not have to do it each time you start
[03:52] <jason_> ok, i'm going to reboot and see if wordpress can connect now without any command intervention, thanks for your help, you guys are great
[03:52] <LoneWolf071> what's the banner file name for SSHD, not the one when you connect, but when you login
[03:53] <mwe> LoneWolf071: you just asked that
[03:53] <chris_> anyone know where cyphase went off to or is he a real person?
[03:53] <LoneWolf071> just reasking it for those who just joined or were away
[03:54] <mwe> LoneWolf071: isn't it the shell that's responsible for what you're looking for?
[03:55] <heatxsink> where would I go to find possible kernel parameters to pass to the kernel via grub?
[03:55] <bshumate> actually it is login(1) that is responsible, if it's /etc/motd which is being referred to...
[03:55] <aTypical> heatxsink, I've found it's not so easy to find them.  Google is fairly good, though.
[03:56] <LoneWolf071> mwe, ??? well yes, but there's a blurb usually displayed about who loged in and when when you login, and iwould like the change that to a warning...
[03:56] <mwe> heatxsink: google, forums. what do you need?
[03:56] <cyphase> chris_, i'm not a bot :)
[03:56] <heatxsink> I think a kernel module is not getting an irq or something
[03:56] <cyphase> although i'm working on one :P
[03:56] <heatxsink> I think a kernel module is not getting an irq or something, so i think I need to pass noirq to the kernel
[03:57] <cyphase> oh, he left
[03:57] <GenneX> ok who has a p2p program instaalled ??
[03:57] <mwe> LoneWolf071: well I don't know. I would read the documentation. that's a good idea anyway if you intend to run a server
[03:58] <Chris_Tucker> dozens of them GenneX
[03:58] <GenneX> can you maby give me some help please
[03:58] <mwe> !helpme
[03:58] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:59] <BeOS_MrX> i can't save this file, no write permissions, what do i need to 'tweak' to save it right now. i use Kwrite
[04:00] <GenneX> which would would be the most suitable to install, for your typical windows user, seeing that I only recently switched from windows to linux
[04:00] <poningru> GenneX: whats wrong?
[04:00] <poningru> as in for what p2p purpose?
[04:01] <poningru> there are many networks
[04:01] <poningru> limewire, torrent, etc.
[04:01] <mwe> GenneX: which what would be most suitable? distro?
[04:01] <GenneX> ok
[04:01] <poningru> which network do you use?
[04:01] <GenneX> distro = ubuntu
[04:01] <poningru> there are application for each of them
[04:01] <GenneX> i normally used limewire with windows
[04:02] <GenneX> went downloaded the .rpm, converted it to .deb with alien
[04:02] <mwe> GenneX: limewire. is that gnutella?
[04:02] <heatxsink> mwe:  so basically I have this tvcard that wants IRQ 19
[04:02] <poningru> GenneX: use gnutella
[04:02] <heatxsink> and for some reason it keeps getting disabled
[04:02] <GenneX> installed using sudo, but it still doesn't work. i think so mwe
[04:02] <bimberi> !limewire
[04:02] <ubotu> rumour has it, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[04:02] <benplaut> how do i make a module be loaded at boot?
[04:03] <poningru> GenneX: you dont need to do that
[04:03] <GenneX> ?
[04:03] <mwe> benplaut: put the name in /etc/modutils/
[04:03] <mwe> benplaut: err
[04:03] <bimberi> benplaut: put it in /etc/modules
[04:03] <mwe> benplaut: /etc/modules
[04:03] <benplaut> thanks
[04:03] <mwe> benplaut: typo, sorry
[04:04] <poningru> GenneX: you can install mldonkey
[04:04] <jouston> Moring
[04:04] <GenneX> poningru: can that be done using sudo apt-get ?
[04:04] <poningru> GenneX: yes
[04:05] <benplaut> anyone know of a good, feature-full non mode text editor with similar commands, etc to nano/pico?
[04:05] <sagarp> i installed unreal 2004, and the fx are weird...polygons randomly disappear and stuff...does any one know how i can fix it? i'm using the latest nvidia drivers
[04:05] <mwe> heatxsink: I would google solving irq conflicts in linux. you can pass some parameters at boot bot I don't remember them right now. I haven't had the need in 5 years or so
[04:05] <GenneX> poningru: E: Invalid operation mldonkey
[04:05] <poningru> GenneX:  thats cause its mldonkey-gui
[04:05] <poningru> GenneX: dude just use synaptic
[04:05] <jouston> I heard that Mark Shuttleman and Malcolm Yates will go Asia. Any tips?
[04:06] <GenneX> poningru: thank you, found it
[04:07] <poningru> jouston: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/193
[04:07] <jouston> poningru: Thank you, I've read this mail.
[04:07] <bino> hi all
[04:07] <GenneX> poningru: hopefully the last question, how would I go about making a shortcut for it ?
[04:07] <poningru> jouston: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AsiaBusinessTour
[04:08] <bino> i need some help for install modem on compaq presario 2800
[04:08] <poningru> GenneX: shortcut for what?
[04:08] <jouston> poningru: But I wish to chat with Malcolm or Mark online.
[04:08] <LemLapLin> IT BOOTED !!!!!
[04:08] <LemLapLin> 'wooooottttt
[04:08] <GenneX> poningru: mldonkey, as i just installed with Synaptic and it isn't under applications
[04:08] <bino> hello
[04:08] <jouston> I'm try to arrange their tour will at least meet two LUG in Taipei
[04:09] <poningru> jouston: mark@canonical.com
[04:09] <poningru> GenneX: oh hmm
[04:09] <_tcc> I need cpan.
[04:09] <_tcc> I installed the ubuntu server
[04:09] <poningru> GenneX: it should be under internet
[04:09] <jouston> poningru: Thanks. Have you see them on irc before?
[04:09] <_tcc> and I don't have CPAN
[04:09] <_tcc> what is up with this?
[04:09] <bino> can i get some link to install modem on presario 2800
[04:10] <poningru> jouston: yeah they generally hang out in #ubuntu-devel
[04:10] <poningru> oops
[04:10] <Kodiak-LNX> Does anyone know which packages I need to configure srvx? I have gcc & make...
[04:10] <_tcc> How can I get cpan?
[04:10] <GenneX> poningru: just rechecked, it is unfortunately not there
[04:10] <mwe> poningru: isn't it sometimes not there until next login?
[04:10] <jouston> poningru: Thank you. I'll try to reach them there.
[04:10] <poningru> GenneX: yeah you usually have to restart the menus
[04:10] <poningru> or log out and log in
[04:10] <GenneX> poningru: will check quickly
[04:11] <_tcc> How can I get cpan?
[04:11] <poningru> GenneX: just open up a terminal and type mldonkey
[04:11] <_tcc> How can I get cpan?
[04:11] <Linfanguin> man mplayer sucks-im stream funny videos of a website to watch with mplayer i get a little screen and i cant fast forward-when iselect a scene it plays from the beggining anywa to fix all this annoying issues?
[04:11] <mwe> _tcc: don't repeat
[04:11] <mwe> _tcc: don't repeat
[04:11] <mwe> _tcc: don't repeat
[04:11] <GenneX> poningru: thank you, also it is mlgui =) you have been alot of help, thx
[04:12] <poningru> doh
[04:12] <poningru> hehe np
[04:12] <poningru> Linfanguin: vlc
[04:12] <bino> please guysss help me
[04:12] <poningru> Linfanguin: or totem
[04:12] <poningru> binarydigit: hold on
[04:12] <poningru> err bino
[04:12] <jouston> _tcc: perl -MCPAN -e shell
[04:12] <Linfanguin> can i do sudo apt-get install vlc?
[04:12] <mwe> _tcc: what do you mean get cpan? you can install perl stuff of cpan, not get cpan
[04:13] <bino> poningru can u help me my modem doesnt work
[04:13] <poningru> bino: yeah looking it up
[04:13] <_tcc> Thats what I did.
[04:13] <Linfanguin> i have totem but how do i make it my primary stream player when i use firefox?
[04:13] <LemLapLin> is there anyway to further lower the mouse sensitivity
[04:13] <_tcc> This things perl isnt even up to date
[04:13] <_tcc> wtf
[04:13] <_tcc> is with that
[04:13] <LemLapLin> it's a whee bit too high for my trackball
[04:13] <mwe> _tcc: what?
[04:13] <bino> my notebook presario 2800
[04:14] <_tcc> nvm not a big deal
[04:14] <Linfanguin> i tried to open the url on totem but it says the server refused the connection
[04:14] <_tcc> apt-get is convienient so I won't complain
[04:14] <_tcc> lol
[04:14] <jouston> bino: http://tuxmobil.org/modem_ci10140.html
[04:14] <bino> poningru
[04:14] <bino> ill check jouston
[04:14] <jouston> bino: http://www.scrye.com/~kevin/presario-2800.html
[04:15] <jouston> bino: ask google and you even get a tutorial. :D
[04:15] <poningru> cool
[04:15] <Malachi> What does "Roll Up" do?
[04:15] <polpak> Hey guys
[04:15] <GenneX> poningru: does mldonkey have certain things that needs to be set before it can be used ??
[04:15] <polpak> Malachi, makes the window 'roll up' like window blinds
[04:15] <mwe> Malachi: in what context?
[04:16] <Linfanguin> how can i make vlc my default stream player when i use firefox?
[04:16] <Linfanguin> i hate mplayer it sucks
[04:16] <Malachi> polpak: Thanks!
[04:16] <polpak> Anyone know how to configure a CRT port on a laptop?
[04:16] <tyler> whats the diffrence between tar.gz files and tar.bz2 files?
[04:16] <Malachi> mwe: I've got it.
[04:16] <poningru> bino: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=Modem#head-0164869cfd1c39a2bdff939835094630ba26bdef
[04:16] <polpak> I can't get anthing to display when I plug it in
[04:17] <redhook> tyler: .bz2 uses a better compression scheme
[04:17] <poningru> GenneX: hmm not sure
[04:17] <poningru> GenneX: is it not working?
[04:17] <redhook> polpak: plug the monitor in and reboot
[04:17] <mwe> polpak: you mean like a second display?
[04:17] <GenneX> poningru: it opened, but it doesn't connect
[04:18] <poningru> GenneX: unfortunately I cant use any p2p apps or my internet connection will go away, so I cant try to figure this out
[04:18] <poningru> GenneX: but I am looking for a tutorial on mldonkey
[04:18] <mwe> redhook: reboot? can't you just log out of X and back in?
[04:18] <redhook> mwe: some laptops will not enable the external monitor port unless a monitor is detected at boot
[04:19] <mwe> redhook: I see.
[04:19] <polpak> mwe, redhook, hrm.. I'm gonna try the i810switch package. Otherwise I'll just try restarting X
[04:19] <GenneX> poningru: cool, also looking myself
[04:20] <redhook> polpak: are you trying to extend the desktop to it or use it as the primary display?
[04:21] <polpak> redhook, I'm trying to mirror the display
[04:21] <redhook> polpak: nvidia go or radeon mobility?
[04:21] <polpak> redhook, nope
[04:21] <redhook> ohh, i810 duh
[04:22] <redhook> never used one of those
[04:22] <redhook> you may have to setup xinerama
[04:22] <polpak> redhook, what does that do?
[04:23] <redhook> multihead thing for x11
[04:23] <redhook> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO.html
[04:24] <redhook> the ati drivers handle all that for my mobility 9200
[04:26] <poningru> GenneX: I couldnt find much, try #mldonkey
[04:32] <poningru> GenneX: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=d9468eb3619a8de8508962b7381c8cd3&t=91396
[04:32] <poningru> GenneX: look at that
[04:32] <MageUnion> hi all
[04:33] <MageUnion> can anyone teach me any tricks with ubuntu
[04:33] <Hericus> Tricks?
[04:33] <MageUnion> i learned how to change root pass today
[04:33] <cvt|gnuyear> do i format a dvd before burning?
[04:33] <MageUnion> i dont
[04:33] <MageUnion> yup tricks/tips
[04:33] <cvt|gnuyear> i'm having probs
[04:33] <Toran> Ok, any idea on how to PLAY drm wma files on ubuntu?
[04:34] <MageUnion> i think u need an extension
[04:34] <MageUnion> i dont know what kind tho
[04:34] <MageUnion> its in synaptic somewhere that would be my first guess
[04:36] <poningru> Toran: that is impossilbe to do
[04:36] <Toran> that sucks
[04:36] <poningru> impossible*
[04:36] <poningru> Toran: indeed
[04:36] <poningru> you can play normal wma
[04:36] <poningru> !restricted
[04:36] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:37] <Toran> Bah, My library provides free audio books
[04:37] <Toran> but they are DRM protected wmas
[04:38] <nosklo> if they are free audio books they should be unprotected ogg files
[04:38] <poningru> Toran: tell them to switch
[04:38] <poningru> !freeformats
[04:38] <ubotu> from memory, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[04:38] <psusi> they aren't free is the point
[04:38] <Toran> They outsource the service to a much larger company
[04:38] <poningru> Toran: tell them to outsorce it to me
[04:38] <Toran> Me telling this place to switch would do NOTHING.
[04:38] <Toran> Hehe
[04:38] <psusi> the books on tape are copyright... so they provide them electronically as DRM'd wma
[04:39] <Toran> I'd prefer DRM'd AAC
[04:39] <Toran> Then I could play them on my iPod, at least
[04:39] <FX|Gamer> Hey can anyone else get the TeamSpeak program? I'm always getting a 404 error
[04:39] <psusi> I'd like to shove DRM up the person's ass who hands it to me
[04:39] <FX|Gamer> http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=downloads
[04:40] <MageUnion> hey guys read this article seems intresting
[04:40] <MageUnion> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS9098610423.html
[04:41] <[nige] > hello
[04:41] <psusi> how fun would it be to have a cs that would auto play install an audio virtual capture card on windows, take it to the library and stick it in their computers
[04:41] <psusi> then proceed to rip the DRM'd WMA files to ogg
[04:41] <psusi> s/cs/cd
[04:41] <Linuturk> d
[04:42] <poningru> FX|Gamer: looking
[04:42] <poningru> FX|Gamer: I can see it
[04:42] <james_> can someone help me
[04:42] <poningru> james_: cant
[04:43] <james_> <---linux noob
[04:43] <poningru> james_: cant help ya if you dont ask the question
[04:43] <poningru> :D
[04:43] <james_> oh ok
[04:43] <MageUnion> james what do you need?
[04:43] <poningru> VR`: where in tampa are you from?
[04:43] <james_> well i just installed ubuntu and I can't change the resolution
[04:43] <FX|Gamer> poningru, I can too but I can't download it.
[04:43] <poningru> FX|Gamer: oh
[04:44] <VR`> poningru i'm not really inside of tampa
[04:44] <VR`> i live in pinellas county
[04:44] <james_> I can't even see the ok buttons on most of the screens
[04:44] <poningru> VR`: ah ic
[04:44] <MageUnion> go to google
[04:44] <FX|Gamer> I got it. Opera wasn't letting me download it.
[04:44] <MageUnion> and try typin how to change screen resolution on ubuntu
[04:45] <FX|Gamer> but I can't run firefox cause it locks up so bad.
[04:45] <FX|Gamer> :(
[04:45] <poningru> james_: did you try the system->preferences->screen resolution
[04:45] <MageUnion> try that james
[04:45] <poningru> MageUnion: this is not #debian
[04:45] <james_> yes it only has the one resolution
[04:45] <poningru> james_: what kinda vid card do you have?
[04:45] <james_> I am using my onboard video
[04:46] <james_> nvidia
[04:46] <poningru> james_: yes, do you know what the chipset is?
[04:46] <MageUnion> you shouldnt have a prob then
[04:46] <james_> It is on the k7ng2 board
[04:46] <poningru> james_: hmm an nvidia shouldnt be causing this prob
[04:46] <poningru> hold on
[04:46] <james_> when i do a lspci i get this
[04:46] <james_> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU]  (rev a3)
[04:47] <poningru> james_: ok that should have worked
[04:47] <poningru> can you take a look at this
[04:47] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29
[04:47] <poningru> the first solution that they give
[04:48] <poningru> running the autodetect script again works for most people
[04:48] <poningru> if you cant see that let me know
[04:48] <poningru> I will paste it for ya
[04:48] <james_> looking
[04:49] <tyler> is it possible to compile/make/etc . (installing tarballs) as user ???
[04:49] <Fujitsu> Yes
[04:49] <poningru> tyler: yes but you have to use 'sudo'
[04:50] <poningru> tyler: for example sudo make foobar
[04:50] <poningru> etc.
[04:50] <poningru> err that came out wrong buy you know what I mean
[04:50] <poningru> but*
[04:50] <james_> do I want to use framebuffer
[04:51] <MageUnion> brb
[04:51] <franky123> james_: yes
[04:52] <franky123> james_: but it wont kill you if you dont. plus if you have bad eyes the extra res wont help
[04:52] <bimberi> james_: say yes, but if X doesn't work after the reconfiguration, saying no is the first thing to try
[04:53] <poningru> james_: yes most definately you want to use framebuffer, you are on laptop right?
[04:53] <poningru> !help
[04:53] <bimberi> um, don't need sudo to make, you would for "make install" but checkinstall should be used in place of that anyway
[04:54] <poningru> bimberi: hence my explanation after
[04:54] <ksmurf> I screwing around with 6.04 and am getting a locales error on  upgrade.  why do I need th AU package?
[04:55] <poningru> !dapper
[04:55] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:55] <james_> no not on a laptop
[04:55] <poningru> doh sorry
[04:55] <james_> going to restart x brb ...i hope
[04:55] <Kr0ntab> heya folks
[04:58] <LightShear> hey kr0n
[04:58] <djstillman> Hey guys, how can I talk to an admin?
[04:59] <erisco> Is there a official crossover office website? If so, what is the url?
[04:59] <djstillman> erisco - http://www.codeweavers.com/
[04:59] <Kr0ntab> djstillman, if yer looking for answers to a question... just ask....
[04:59] <erisco> is that really it?
[04:59] <erisco> ah
[05:00] <djstillman> erisco - yes
[05:00] <erisco> thanks
[05:00] <djstillman> Kr0ntab - I actually need an op or admin
[05:00] <erisco> well bye =p
[05:00] <Kr0ntab> of the channel... oic.
[05:00] <djstillman> Kr0ntab - forgot my password to identify myself...
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> woops...  well and op in here prolly wont be able to help you....
[05:01] <djstillman> Kr0ntab - Who could then?
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> nickserv may drop yer registration after no one uses it for x amount of days....
[05:01] <djstillman> Kr0ntab - That's no good...
[05:02] <seth_k|lappy> djstillman, if you want a *freenode* admin, type /who freenode/staff/*
[05:03] <djstillman> seth_k|lappy - I got a list, now what?
[05:03] <ksmurf> djstillman go to /# freenode and ask them they will probably help u out if u are patient
[05:04] <ejofee> why does ubuntu include ruby by default?
[05:04] <djstillman> ksmurf - tried what you typed, and it said it was a bad command...
[05:04] <S> homos
[05:05] <S> woops wrong window
[05:05] <ksmurf> sorry /j #freenode
[05:05] <Kr0ntab> djstillman, "/who freenode/staff/*"   dont put in "type"...
[05:05] <B166ERX> i reinstalled my Nvidia card, done the http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/nvidia thing, the nvidia splash screens shows up and all...but my 3D although working is...REALLY slow
[05:06] <djstillman> Kr0ntab - that is what I typed...  I got a list of people...
[05:06] <djstillman> Kr0ntab - Now what?
[05:07] <Kr0ntab> hehe hes telling you who might be able to help you...
[05:07] <seth_k|lappy> those are admins
[05:07] <seth_k|lappy> you wanted to talk to one, yes?
[05:07] <zoka> hi ppl. I have small partition 4GB where is ubuntu and after the install only 20% left
[05:07] <zoka> how to make more space
[05:07] <dabaR> I have two processes that are ran as root, that are both the "mount" command. I get their process numbers from "ps", but using "kill -9" as root does not kill the processes. Is there anything else I can do?
[05:07] <Kr0ntab> also   /j #freenode will take you to a channel that might be able to lend you a hand with your problem
[05:07] <zoka> is there install source on the disk that can be removed
[05:07] <djstillman> seth_k|lappy - yes, but how do I message them with just their names?
[05:07] <seth_k|lappy> djstillman, /query thePerson Hi, here is what I need blah
[05:08] <djstillman> Kr0ntab - did that, so now do I just ask the question?
[05:08] <dabaR> btw, this blocks me from really mounting my hdc (both processes are instances of trying to mount /dev/hdc)
[05:08] <psusi> dabaR, what were you trying to mount?
[05:08] <djstillman> seth_k|lappy - Ok.  Thank you.  Haven't used IRC in a while...
[05:08] <seth_k|lappy> djstillman, np
[05:08] <psusi> dabaR, check your demsg for errors
[05:09] <Das> n00b question: how do I mount my windows partion?
[05:09] <zoka> Das you have Disk util
[05:09] <ptlo> dabaR: hi dude
[05:09] <polpak> Hrm.. not working as well as I'd like
[05:09] <polpak> !resolution
[05:09] <Das> zoka were is that?
[05:09] <ubotu> resolution is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:09] <MageUnion-{afk}> hey guys is it possible to put linux on a cell phone
[05:09] <dabaR> atkbd.c is something that is over and over repeated in my dmesg.
[05:09] <zoka> Das System Administration Disks
[05:09] <dabaR> ptlo: hi.
[05:10] <ptlo> dabaR: why are your two mount processes hanging? do you have some i/o error on that partition?
[05:10] <MageUnion-{afk}> nm brb
[05:10] <whyameye> my dell laptop was happily supporting CPU scaling. Suddenly tonight it doesn't. What happened? How can I repair? Breezy...
[05:10] <ptlo> dabaR: dmesg l less, and then search (type '/' followed by a search string) for the partition you're trying to mount (hdXY...)
[05:10] <dabaR> ptlo: the mounted drive is a cd.
[05:10] <Das> zoka were is that?
[05:11] <psusi> dabaR, sounds like the cd is unreadable... dmesg should be full of errors
[05:11] <dabaR> can you guys join #flood for a sec?
[05:11] <psusi> use pastebin
[05:11] <dabaR> I cant now...
[05:11] <Noriega> hey
[05:11] <ptlo> dabaR: i'm on flood
[05:11] <Noriega> amarok just won't play my mp3s :(
[05:11] <zoka> top left corner of the screen, Aplications then Places and System many under System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:11] <Noriega> not xine nor gstream
[05:12] <psusi> hrm....
[05:12] <Das> zoka System > Admin > Disks dosn't exsist
[05:13] <zoka> Do you want screenshot of my env :)
[05:13] <psusi> dabaR, reboot, and try a different cd
[05:13] <dabaR> I can not think of a reason why it would not be killable, the mount processes.
[05:13] <psusi> dabaR, it isn't killable because the kernel is shitting itself
[05:13] <dabaR> No, I am not going to reboot, no way:) I know that would likely fix it.
[05:13] <dabaR>  22:20:30 up 41 days, 15:27,  4 users,  load average: 6.07, 6.07, 6.07
[05:14] <dabaR> And I can not umount my /dev/hdd, btw.
[05:14] <rss> What is the alsa module for Creative labs Ectiva EV1938 in Breezy Badger?
[05:14] <Linuturk> Can we get some seeding for the dapper amd 64 live torrent?
[05:14] <psusi> dabaR, reboot man ;)
[05:14] <ptlo> dabaR: process can't be killed if it's "hanging" in the kernel
[05:14] <dabaR> I saw this before, and a reboot fixes it. come to think about it...it was also around day 40.
[05:14] <ptlo> dabaR: mount process has issued a system call that has blocked
[05:14] <luisito> hellooo
[05:14] <ptlo> dabaR: it can't be killed because that part of a system call can't be interrupted
[05:15] <dabaR> ooh...I umounted /dev/hdc
[05:15] <ptlo> linus first..he said that microkernels were crap :-)
[05:15] <Linuturk> Can we get some seeding for the dapper amd 64 live torrent? I've got nothing coming in for it
[05:15] <psusi> the other day I couldn't umount my cdrw because it was having errors being written to
[05:15] <psusi> ptlo, microkernels are crap...
[05:15] <dabaR> that other drive has been complaining since I got ubuntu Warty, in fact it would not install warty onto my computer, it would tell me cd is broken...and the drive was reallyu.
[05:15] <psusi> even a umount -f still blocked in an uninterruptable state
[05:16] <psusi> while the kernel furiously tried and failed to flush dirty buffers
[05:16] <psusi> filling my syslog
[05:16] <dabaR> I mean...I umounted /dev/hdd
[05:16] <Das> where is the Disk Utility anyone?
[05:16] <psusi> dabaR, my guess is that the drive does not like dma mode or something
[05:16] <rss> I have no access to an Ubuntu machine right now, can anyone please check and tell me, what is the module name for Creative labs Ectiva EV1938 in Breezy?
[05:17] <james_> well that didn't work
[05:17] <dabaR> psusi: OK, well, at least my hdd got umounted, that is an improvement.
[05:17] <dabaR> ptlo, psusi: thank you for the lesson/help.
[05:20] <ahsm> hi everyone, is anyone active here? I got a problem =/
[05:21] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Having printer troubles with a laserjet 5si.  Anybody have success or ideas?
[05:22] <dabaR> ahsm: you have to ask a question
[05:22] <psusi> ptlo, I remember when Linus poo-pooed on zero copy IO.... that really pissed me off.  As a result, to this day, Linux still doesn't widely support zero copy async IO
[05:22] <ahsm> dabaR, ok, i have mouse issues. my mouse just doesnt work properlly, i havent cliked and it selects the program already, its as if someone is clicing the button aall the time
[05:22] <zephyr87> hi, does anyone know how to setup a ati x series pci-e video card working properly in ubuntu/any linux system?
[05:23] <Jecos> what ati card?
[05:23] <zephyr87> ubuntu gave me a bunch of error when i try to boot it from the cd, and fedora coer didn't recognize it
[05:23] <zephyr87> ati x700 pro
[05:23] <lostar148> How do i check what version of the xvid or divix codec i have installed
[05:23] <dabaR> ahsm: tried 1 or more mice?
[05:24] <Jecos> it should work with fglrx..  but you'll have to boot it in vesa
[05:24] <ahsm> dabaR, I only have one. its a wirelss optical mouse
[05:25] <ptlo> psusi: :) yeah, linus has (had) a strong opinion on many issues, and linux pretty much reflects his opinions (and he's obviously done a good job, since we're all using it now :)
[05:25] <LightShear> Hey all, I'm trying to update a server. When I try apt-get update, I get a bunch of W: Couldn't stat source package list...
[05:25] <LightShear> any ideas?
[05:25] <Xenguy> ubotu citrix is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85398.html
[05:25] <ubotu> okay, Xenguy
[05:26] <Kindred> ahsm, maybe check system - preferences - windows and make sure that top box isn't checked
[05:26] <zephyr87> or could someone tell me how to config display settings in text mode?
[05:26] <Davey`> why can't I get esddsp in Ubuntu?
[05:26] <Noriega> how do I play mp3s on ubuntu...
[05:26] <dabaR> LightShear: fix your sources.list
[05:26] <Noriega> all programs refuse
[05:26] <Kindred> !mp3
[05:26] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:27] <Noriega> oh
[05:27] <Noriega> thanks
[05:27] <Knowerrors> anybody here use xawtv?
[05:27] <Das> Anyone know how to mount windos?
[05:27] <S> can anyone here help me out
[05:27] <S> with installing ubuntu
[05:27] <S> i'm on the laptop now
[05:27] <dabaR> !ntfs
[05:27] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[05:27] <S> atm i'm up to the part where you hvae to choose a partition
[05:27] <Xenguy> !tell S about ask
[05:28] <Kindred> S, what's the problem?
[05:28] <psusi> !enter
[05:28] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:28] <S> previously i had debian... but i forgot what partition i installed it on lol
[05:28] <ahsm> dabaR, its not checked :(
[05:28] <Breezy4389> I have a question about mounting my second hard drive
[05:28] <ahsm> i mean
[05:28] <ahsm> Kindred, its not checked
[05:28] <S> basically i hvae atm...
[05:29] <dabaR> Xenguy: heh, so true.
[05:29] <S> 41.9gb (i'm pretty sure thats my windows hdd), 7gb.. says ext3 and its primary and then a 7gb logical and a 1gb swap
[05:29] <LightShear> dabar i don't see anything wrong with sources.list
[05:29] <zephyr87> could someone tell me how to config display settings in text mode (when linux is booted up but assumed "headless" and i only have root account?)
[05:29] <S> so would i be correct if i was to say that the 7gb primary was the one i had debian installed on?
[05:29] <Breezy4389> I added the hard drive to my fstab file but it keeps telling me "/dev/sda1 is not a directory" what is wrong??
[05:29] <hostcord> hi
[05:30] <psusi> Breezy4389, /dev/sda1 is not a directory... you put it in the spot where you specify the directory, not the device
[05:30] <Das> can anyone tell me how to mount windows?
[05:30] <S> it also says /media/hda3 if thats important
[05:30] <Breezy4389> psusi what should i change in fstab??
[05:30] <dabaR> LightShear: post to pastebin, we will see something perhaps, and paste the error.
[05:30] <psusi> Breezy4389, fix it so it correctly lists all the information ( including WHERE to mount it )
[05:31] <hostcord> when i was trying to take off the button loader(thing that shows progress when you start up) it messed me in that now whenever i start ubuntu it gives me just the black terminal, like a command prompt, is there any way to set it back?
[05:31] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, are there any good sites or irc channels to go to for HP laserjet help?
[05:31] <ahsm> for example, i am in mouse settings, in the motion section. and those little bars you have to click and move around, i just go over and it start smoving
[05:31] <S> anyone?
[05:31] <Noriega> Kindred, thanks mp3 works now
[05:31] <khermans> how do I add a library path for programs to look?
[05:31] <Kindred> Noriega, great
[05:32] <khermans> i want to add /usr/local/lib
[05:32] <Breezy4389> so I need to put in fstab the location I want to mount my device?? what is the default location to mount a second hard drive?
[05:32] <Noriega> I already thought I had gstreamer installed :)
[05:32] <Noriega> !xine
[05:32] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Noriega
[05:32] <Noriega> meh
[05:32] <dabaR> S: ask in one line if you want me to read
[05:32] <S> alright
[05:32] <hostcord> how do i change ubuntu from the command promp to the visual way?
[05:32] <Breezy4389> hostcord: startx
[05:33] <S> at the moment i have 41.9gb (i'm pretty sure thats my windows hdd), 7gb.. says ext3 and its primary and then a 7gb logical and a 1gb swap, so would i be correct if i was to say that the 7gb primary was the one i had debian installed on?
[05:33] <jtibau> Hi, I need to get libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 for my AMD64 machine but can't seem to find it anywhere, can anyone help me????
[05:33] <hostcord> k thanks :) :) :) :)
[05:33] <Breezy4389> you're welcome hostcord
[05:33] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, are there any good sites or irc channels to go to for HP laserjet help?
[05:33] <S> have you tried the HP webpage
[05:34] <djs_2_6> S - Yes, and they are worthless...
[05:34] <dabaR> S: why not mount the partition and know for sure? and ya, it is OK to AssUMe that
[05:34] <psusi> Breezy4389, yes, you mount devices IN a directory somewhere... where else would you expect the files to appear?
[05:34] <S> meh i'll just take my chances
[05:34] <dabaR> S: sure.
[05:34] <dabaR> it is easy to mount if you are in ubuntu...
[05:35] <TraceGreen> hey, when i start a program by click icon in ubuntu, desktop will show a circle(tell me wait), does the circle belong to gnome? or is it a third party tool? or it is because X's cursor theme?
[05:35] <S> How should i install ubuntu dabar? should i use the partition as a Ext3, or..?
[05:35] <psusi> Breezy4389, a good place might be /media/hda4 or whatever the name of the device is... sudo mkdir /media/hda4 as well
[05:35] <S> i'm not in ubuntu i'm trying to install it
[05:35] <dabaR> I gotta leave, are you almost done, LightShear ?
[05:35] <dabaR> S: sure, ext3 sounds ok...
[05:35] <Vaske_Car> hej Dabar
[05:35] <dabaR> !install
[05:35] <ubotu> it has been said that install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[05:35] <dabaR> hej Vaske_Car
[05:36] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: know about #ubuntu-hr?
[05:36] <S> what should be the mount point?
[05:36] <Vaske_Car> sambaseeker here
[05:36] <dabaR> hey.
[05:36] <Vaske_Car> :)
[05:36] <Vaske_Car> did you install teamspeak?
[05:36] <jtibau>  Hi, I need to get libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 for my AMD64 machine but can't seem to find it anywhere, can anyone help me????
[05:36] <dabaR> S: I am not sure what you are asking.
[05:36] <S> actually what should be hte point point, options and label for this partition (the one i want to install ubuntu on)
[05:36] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: no, never. can you email me explaining just the very basics?
[05:37] <Vaske_Car> I will help you install when you have time
[05:37] <Vaske_Car> its 10 minutes
[05:37] <Breezy4389> Thanks a ton psusi!!
[05:37] <dabaR> s, the mount point is / label is irrelevant, if I understand.
[05:37] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: what hardware is needed on both sides?
[05:37] <S> ah ok
[05:37] <S> thanks
[05:37] <Vaske_Car> microphone and headphones or speakers
[05:37] <dabaR> on both sides?
[05:37] <Vaske_Car> server does not need them
[05:38] <Vaske_Car> you should install client first so we can talk
[05:38] <dabaR> right, but both people that talk need it. And what about the OS, can both Windows and Ubuntu connect to it?
[05:38] <Vaske_Car> and than see if you like it
[05:38] <dabaR> I have some kind of microphone here. Dunno whether it works, but it is easy to get a new one for a few bucks...
[05:39] <dabaR> ^
[05:39] <Noriega> I am looking for this: a program whcih can play compressed music, cd and get web radio streams, and with EQ settings, any suggestions? :)
[05:40] <Diablo69> sup all
[05:40] <DrZeus> hi all.  Question: is it possible to make the CD to eject with the button of the tray rather than doing right click(in a laptop.  Dont know if it works in desktops)?
[05:40] <Diablo69> I have a major problem that I have been trying to solve for 5 hours
[05:40] <Diablo69> I jut converted from fbsd, to try ubuntu....and I installed it, but when it goes to boot it freezes at hotplug
[05:40] <Diablo69> any idea on how to fix this?
[05:41] <Vaske_Car> you can install TeamSpeak client via Synaptic
[05:41] <Diablo69> I can't even get to that point
[05:41] <Xenguy> ubotu forget citrix
[05:41] <ubotu> Xenguy: i forgot citrix
[05:41] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: what about windows, they can connect right? they just need a client installed?
[05:41] <Diablo69> I hvaen't even seen the desktop yet
[05:41] <Xenguy> ubotu citrix is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85398
[05:41] <ubotu> Xenguy: okay
[05:41] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, yes
[05:41] <Diablo69> is there anyway to disable hotplug:?
[05:42] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: cool.  what about the client for Ubuntu, what is it called?
[05:42] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, search synaptic for TS or TeamSpeak
[05:42] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: I never use synaptic...
[05:43] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: But, I will manage, I thought you knew...
[05:43] <bshumate> Diablo69: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/hotplug* will disable it
[05:43] <Diablo69> how would I get to that point in the cmd prompt
[05:44] <Diablo69> bshumate: did you have the same problem as I have?
[05:44] <bshumate> Diablo69: Applications > Accessories > Terminal > then type the command in the terminal window
[05:44] <DrZeus> how is it done to take out the CD with the button of the tray instead of doing "eject" in the icon?
[05:44] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, ftp://ftp.freenet.de/pub/4players/teamspeak.org/releases/ts2_client_rc2_2032.tar.bz2
[05:44] <bshumate> Diablo69: no.  you asked for a way to disable hotplug, and I suggested one. ;-)
[05:44] <Das> why is it that when ever I go to: /media/hda1/Documents and Settings/ it says the directory dosn't exsist?
[05:45] <Diablo69> bshumate: I just installed ubuntu, It won't even boot up, it freezes at hotplug, thats what I am saying
[05:45] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: can you put it onto pastebin? I am in a console here...
[05:45] <faizan> hey i have a question
[05:45] <Kindred> DrZeus, you mean the eject button on the drive?  Not possible in breezy, but possible in the next ubuntu release
[05:45] <faizan> i have a pure gnome system
[05:45] <DrZeus> is it possible to do that? to pull out a CD directly from the tray and not doing "eject" in the icon?
[05:45] <faizan> with no kde apps
[05:45] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, im not at home bro, i can do it tomorrow
[05:45] <DrZeus> Kindred: thnx.  Wanted to be shure
[05:45] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: whenever works. Hey, I am going to sleep too, so talk to you later. Thanks.
[05:45] <faizan> i  know that installing kde apps installs lots of other kde libraries onto ur box
[05:46] <faizan> does this however effect your gnome in any way
[05:46] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, actually i am at home but not on PC with Linux
[05:46] <Kindred> DrZeus, no problem.. wait till April..
[05:46] <DrZeus> omG!
[05:46] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, ok
[05:46] <faizan> cause i have experienced crashes sometimes with amarok installed
[05:46] <bshumate> Diablo69: oh, in that case, you probably need to pass kernel parameters at bootup like acpi=off and such...
[05:46] <Das> why is it that when ever I go to: /media/hda1/Documents and Settings/ it says the directory dosn't exsist?
[05:46] <Diablo69> yeah how would I do that though
[05:48] <faizan> did anyone get my question?????
[05:48] <LightShear> dabar i can't do a paste bin; is there a problem with ubuntu's archive servers?
[05:49] <c0nflikt> anyone know why i cant get sound in flash ?
[05:49] <c0nflikt> flash is working but no sound
[05:49] <Das> why is it that when ever I go to: /media/hda1/Documents and Settings/ it says the directory dosn't exsist?
[05:50] <Diablo69> bshumate: do I hit escape when it tries to load the kernel, and edit the kernel and type in what u said in its place
[05:50] <dabaR> LightShear: not afaik. #flood?
[05:51] <Kindred> Das, spaces in the path probably, cd "/media/hda1/Documents and Settings/"
[05:52] <ptlo> c0nflikt: are you using esd (do you have enabled sound events in gnome)?
[05:52] <c0nflikt> dunno ?
[05:52] <hydroksyde> I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a Celeron 333Mhz with 64MB of RAM... doesn't run *too* badly
[05:52] <c0nflikt> i just switched from gentoo ^_^
[05:52] <c0nflikt> and got my Intel graphics working
[05:52] <LightShear> thats what seems to be the issue (2 No such file or directory)
[05:53] <c0nflikt> ill check
[05:53] <ptlo> c0nflikt: system->preferences->sound ... "enable sound server startup", is it checked? if it is, try to uncheck it, close the dialog, restart firefox/mozilla, and visit the web page with the flash content
[05:53] <Das> Kindred: bash: /media/hda1/Documents20%and20%Settings/: No such file or directory
[05:53] <LightShear> can't stat wource packages
[05:53] <LightShear> source*
[05:53] <DrZeus> out of the context: does skype has conference calls?
[05:54] <c0nflikt> ptlo: didnt work :\
[05:55] <ptlo> c0nflikt: which version of ubuntu are you running, and which browser are you using?
[05:55] <Diablo69> anybody else know any ways I can fix my hotplug problem
[05:55] <Das> Anyone want to explain: bash: /media/hda1/Documents%20and%20Settings/: No such file or directory
[05:55] <Kindred> Das, type what I said before
[05:55] <c0nflikt> 5.04
[05:55] <bshumate> Diablo69: oh, what you want at the "boot:" prompt is to enter: linux pci=noacpi
[05:55] <c0nflikt> Mozilla firefox v 1.0.7
[05:55] <Das> w00t
[05:55] <bshumate> Diablo69: try that and see if it boots.
[05:56] <ptlo> c0nflikt: in the location, type: "about:plugins" (without the quotes), is "Shockware Flash" (libflashplayer.so) listed?
[05:56] <c0nflikt> ptlo; when i went to a page that had flash with sound mozilla wanted to automaticlly install it so i let it i go to about:plugins and i get the flash shopwing up
[05:56] <SweetestSavage> Das, typing cd /media/hda1/Documents\ and\ Settings/ also works.
[05:57] <Satan> so anybody know how to turn off hotplug so it won't freeze my computer at start up before I even get to my ubuntu desktop
[05:57] <c0nflikt> ptlo yup
[05:57] <ptlo> c0nflikt: ok, open a new terminal and type: pidof esd <enter> ... does that output some number, or gives no output?
[05:58] <Korupt> why is it that gnome actually thought people don't like flexibility???
[05:58] <bshumate> Satan: uhhhh- at the "boot:" prompt type: linux pci=noacpi  and then hit enter....does it boot?
[05:58] <whyameye> cpu speed scaling is suddenly broken after working great on my Dell laptop. How do I troubleshoot?
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[05:58] <Davey`> I am having the weirdest sound problems in skype, I finally got the ringer and hangup sounds to work... but voice still doesn't :/
[05:58] <Satan> ok bshmate, but it boots to fast
[05:58] <Satan> I don't have tim eto type all that in
[05:59] <c0nflikt> ptlo; 24831
[05:59] <hostcord> hi, i turned off splash but now i cant acces the visual desktop at all only a command login what should i do
[06:00] <bshumate> Satan: are you pressing ESC on bootup?
[06:00] <Satan> yes
[06:01] <ptlo> c0nflikt: ok, type this in the terminal: kill -9 24831
[06:01] <ptlo> c0nflikt: then, restart firefox and check if it works again
[06:01] <franky123> that command sends the sigkill signal to process number 24831.
[06:01] <bshumate> Satan: you press ESC and don't get a Grub boot menu?
[06:01] <jtibau> I have problems finding some libs for ubuntu 64bits can anyone help me
[06:02] <ptlo> c0nflikt: the above line will kill the sound server
[06:02] <franky123> i wonder why the only command to send signals is kill ...
[06:02] <hostcord> i turned off splash but now i cant acces the visual desktop at all only a command login what should i do
[06:02] <james_> poninggru you still around
[06:03] <franky123> hostcord: login to command prompt, type "gdm" and then change your setting back.
[06:03] <franky123> gdm will start the gnome desktop
[06:03] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with syncing a Palm with evolution?
[06:03] <james_> hey franky123 still can't get any onter resolutions
[06:03] <hostcord> thanks franky
[06:03] <hostcord> :)
[06:04] <Korupt> okay, question: is there a good app for doing advanced editing of the current gnome theme (color scheme, etc.)?
[06:04] <james_> I searched and installed the nvida drivers and still no go
[06:04] <bur[n] er> Korupt: gedit :)
[06:04] <bshumate> franky123: it isn't! there are also pkill, and skill ;-)
[06:04] <franky123> james_: ?
[06:04] <Korupt> bur[n] er, that doesn't involvelow level editing...... preferably a gui
[06:05] <franky123> bshumate: what positive connotations pkill and skill carry
[06:05] <bur[n] er> Korupt: yeah sorry, gedit's the best i know of :\
[06:05] <james_> i was here earlier only have 640 resolution
[06:05] <DivGradCurl> I recently did the first installation phase of putting Ubuntu on my external hard drive, as per http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 .  However, my computer refuses to boot to it.  Having played with the Grub multiple times (I have Ubuntu installed locally) it appears that the main issue may be that it simply doesn't have the drivers (or whatever) to boot to the external before it boots to the grub screen.
[06:05] <franky123> james_: try running dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:05] <DivGradCurl> Anybody know if there is a way to get around that?  I believe Smart Boot Manager does a similar thing for CD issues, but it never updated with USB support.
[06:05] <Korupt> bur[n] er, this is why I normally don't use GNOME.... they seem to think that there is no such thing as a happy medium
[06:05] <DJISDIABLO69> peace of crap computer
[06:05] <franky123> james_: the idea is to have it re recognize your monitor
[06:06] <franky123> !resolution
[06:06] <james_> it does
[06:06] <ubotu> I heard resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:06] <DJISDIABLO69> bshumate: sorry man what now about the esc button
[06:06] <franky123> ubotu, tell james_ about resolution
[06:06] <bshumate> franky123: unix prgrammers were closet passive-agressive personalities who secretly desired to kill the hardware, the software, and even (*gasp*) the coffee cups!
[06:06] <james_> it finds everything but when I come back and reboot it still has no other resolutions
[06:06] <franky123> james_ the xserver reconfigure thing will have this thing
[06:07] <franky123> where it allows you to select resolutions
[06:07] <james_> it has many of them checked
[06:08] <franky123> bshumate: i think i will make a bash util called happyfy. happyfy -9. it looks so happy
[06:08] <echeese> Hi, how do I set my 32 bit firefox as the default?
[06:08] <DJISDIABLO69> bshumate: what do I do man
[06:08] <whyameye> why is ACPI suddenly broken after working great for my laptop? Nothing has changed. How can I troubleshoot?
[06:08] <franky123> james_: so it has 1024x768 checked?
[06:08] <james_> yes and others too
[06:08] <Korupt> bur[n] er, so its either the theme app (which can't do custom color schemes) or a text editor?   wtf..
[06:08] <bshumate> franky123: yeah, just alias happy=kill ;-)
[06:09] <bshumate> DJISDIABLO69: i cannot keep up with your constant nick changes man!
[06:09] <james_> but when I goto the screen res under system it only shows 640
[06:09] <DJISDIABLO69> dude my pc is being lame
[06:09] <DJISDIABLO69> I am on winblows
[06:09] <DJISDIABLO69> took me at least 10 mins getting bck in here
[06:09] <DivGradCurl> Any ideas?
[06:10] <james_> and it detects my monitor
[06:10] <Noriega> !wmv
[06:10] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:11] <DJISDIABLO69> bshumate: what I have done so far is I have hit esc, I see "root" "kernel" "initrd" "savedefault" "boot"
[06:11] <CaptainMorgan> !mov
[06:11] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: Bugger all, i dunno
[06:11] <bshumate> DJISDIABLO69: I am fairly sure when you boot, you can hit ESC and you'll get a Grub boot menu.  from there you can add parameters to the kernel, such as the ones I quoted you earlier.  Are you able to get into the Grub menu when you boot Ubuntu?
[06:11] <echeese> :D
[06:11] <echeese> How do I get YTMND working with audio?
[06:11] <DJISDIABLO69> yes what do I add at the end of the line of the kernel menu
[06:12] <Neurosis> Can someone help me with setting up net-snmp 5.0.7? I go through the configure and do the make but i think there are errors within the make and i cant install.
[06:13] <bshumate> DJISDIABLO69: hang on a sec...brb.
[06:13] <polpak> Hrm
[06:14] <Noriega> !mplayer
[06:14] <ubotu> from memory, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:14] <polpak> Anyone have experience w/ laptops (specifically the crt output) using i855 ?
[06:14] <Korupt> what window manager does GNOME use by default?
[06:14] <polpak> Korupt, metacity
[06:14] <Neurosis> !net-snmp
[06:14] <ubotu> Neurosis: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:15] <Korupt> polpak: howhard is that to change?
[06:15] <polpak> Korupt, dunno. Haven't tried
[06:16] <whyameye> cpufreqd is telling me to enable cpufreq in my kernel. This *used* to work. How do I (re)enable?
[06:18] <billytwowilly> so I exported the korganizer datebook as icalendar and tried to import it into outlook and outlook wouldn't import it. Is there some special thing I should be doing to get outlook importable icalendars?
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> What sorts of things about gdm could prevent console switching from working?
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> (Configuration or changes, it worked before.)
[06:18] <conflikt> ptlo: it worked i guess just needed restart ?
[06:19] <Neurosis> Can someone help me with setting up net-snmp 5.0.7? I go through the configure and do the make but i think there are errors within the make and i cant install.
[06:20] <ptlo> conflikt: these kind of things don't usually require restart, but maybe something didn't automatically update to the new state, so restart fixed it.
[06:20] <ptlo> conflikt: do try to use your media/music players and see if they work - they've probably been configured to work with esd, which now you have shut down - you can configure each individual app to use 'alsa' instead of esd
[06:20] <whyameye> how do set kernel options?
[06:21] <DJISDIABLO69> wb bshumate
[06:21] <polpak> Anyone know how to set up a multihead config for X
[06:21] <bk> let's take a poll.  what is the best programming language?
[06:21] <polpak> bk, lol
[06:21] <Steil> polpak, what kind of video card do you have?
[06:21] <bk> seriously, i needsome opinions
[06:21] <polpak> Steil, i855
[06:22] <Steil> hmm, I can't really help you then. All I know is it's really simple with nvidia... Sorry
[06:22] <bdawg2103> hi there, need some help with grub
[06:22] <bshumate> DJISDIABLO69: you still in the list that has 'boot' 'kernel...' etc. in it?
[06:22] <DJISDIABLO69> yes
[06:23] <polpak> drat
[06:23] <bk> bdawg, what's wrong?
[06:23] <polpak> Anyone familiar with setting up the external CRT monitor on a laptop w/ i855 chipset?
[06:23] <bk> is the 855 chipset for a Penium M?
[06:24] <bshumate> DJISDIABLO69:  you highlight the line beginning with kernel, and press 'e' on it... then you end up at grub edit> kernel ... etc. etc.   | at the end of that line, add pci=noacpi
[06:24] <whyameye> is there a kernel configuration file somewhere?
[06:25] <bdawg2103> bk: hi, i've got 2 drives in the box.. one set as primary master (with XP) installed and the other secondary master with ubuntu installed. I am trying to use NTLDR as the main bootloader and it loads windows fine, but fails to load unbuntu
[06:25] <bshumate> DJISDIABLO69: then you press 'b' to boot with that parameter...
[06:25] <CaptainMorgan> how do I view konqueror's bookmarks?
[06:25] <DJISDIABLO69> ok man one sec
[06:25] <BlackJudas> Hrrm... mythgame ist borked.. it wants libqt3c-mt... pkg doesn't exist
[06:25] <CaptainMorgan> also, konq is not showing a portion of javascript.... any suggestions ?
[06:25] <bdawg2103> bk: the menu.lst file and device.map file seem to be ok.. hd0 points to windows and hd1 points to the drive with ubuntu..
[06:26] <bk> bdawg, what is NTLDR?  I have the same setup as you, and ubuntu was the one who set up grub automatically
[06:26] <bshumate> bk: NTLDR is Windows NT/2000/XP/etc. etc. bootloader
[06:26] <bdawg2103> bk: NTLDR is the windows boot loader i believe.. i created an entry in boot.ini for it to be able to load grub
[06:27] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know how to view konq's bookmarks? helpcenter cannot be found...
[06:27] <bk> bdawg, i didn't mess with that.
[06:27] <bk> i don't think it's necessary
[06:27] <bdawg2103> bk: grub is currently installed in the MBR of the secondary drive
[06:27] <bk> bdawg, what happens when you first power up your computer?
[06:27] <NobodyHere> hey folks, I have postfix installed and the logs are getting rotated every two days, which is really annoying on a low-traffic system.  Logrotate is installed, but nothing is defined in logrotate.d/ or logrotate.conf for mail logs..what's rotating 'em?
[06:27] <bk> does grub come up?
[06:28] <LightShear> dabar still out there?
[06:28] <bdawg2103> bk: no, the NTLDR comes up first because drive with windows is the one that boots first
[06:28] <bk> i'd take out the changes you made in boot.ini
[06:29] <bdawg2103> bk: i change the boot order to have drive with ubuntu load first, but grub still can't load ubuntu.. but it can load XP
[06:29] <bk> let the automatic ubuntu installer do all the work, bdawg, because like i said, i have a successful setup of XP and Ubuntu by letting Ubuntu do the installation
[06:30] <bdawg2103> bk: i have not made any changes to grub.. i let the ubuntu installer do it all
[06:30] <morphix> how do i add 'stuff' to openbox?
[06:30] <bk> did you get XP from a Window XP cd, or a factory image disc with a bunch of softare on it?
[06:30] <morphix> atm i have to open apps using terminal :/
[06:30] <bdawg2103> bk: a windows xp cd..
[06:30] <bk> ok
[06:30] <bk> try reinstalling Ubuntu.
[06:31] <bk> it only takes a half hour
[06:31] <bk> sorry can't be of much help
[06:31] <brenner> trying to set up a dualboot machine.  when booting xp from grub, i get "Error 29:Disk Write Error" straight after.  if i restore the mbr, i get "Error loading operating system" instead, so it's not necessarily a grub error. apparently my xp install is being borked somehow by ubuntu's.
[06:31] <brenner> i've read the forum topics.  suggestions were disabling bios write protection (i don't have that option) and running chkdsk (no impact).  i'm pretty sure it's not a hdd problem.  that wouldn't explain why i can install xp/ubuntu fine on their lonesome. any ideas?
[06:32] <ptlo> bdawg2103: can you get grub to start?
[06:32] <bdawg2103> bk: the problem does not seem to be with the NTLDr because grub is unable to load ubuntu with the current config.. as soon as i change my root from (hd1,0) to (hd0,0) ubuntu loads just fine.. which is weird because as ubuntu is installed on my second drive, it should load from hd1
[06:33] <bk> you're right.  so ubuntu is on your master of your second drive?
[06:33] <bdawg2103> bk: yes
[06:33] <bdawg2103> ptlo: yes i am in grub now
[06:33] <ptlo> bdawg2103: (i mean, from the ntldr, while it's on hd1)?
[06:33] <bk> do you think the reason you can boot using (hd0,0) is because of the changes you made in boot.ini?
[06:34] <NobodyHere> nobody can help with my postfix question?
[06:34] <bk> bdawg, glad to hear you have success
[06:34] <cdubya> NobodyHere, what's the question?
[06:34] <NobodyHere> , I have postfix installed and the logs are getting rotated every two days, which is really annoying on a low-traffic system.  Logrotate is installed, but nothing is defined in logrotate.d/ or logrotate.conf for mail logs..what's rotating 'em?
[06:34] <Madpilot> greetings ubuntooonians
[06:35] <bk> but like i said, i set up dual-boot w/o having to change the boot.ini.  i let ubuntu do all the work.
[06:35] <bdawg2103> ptlo: yes, it does load grub and gives me all the options but fails to load ubuntu
[06:35] <Rex> is that what we are, Madpilot?
[06:35] <bshumate> NobodyHere: possibly that behavior is due to the savelog command being called in /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd
[06:35] <bdawg2103> bk: where did u install grub though?
[06:35] <bk> what options are available, bdawg?
[06:35] <NobodyHere> hmm
[06:35] <bk> usually u get a safemode
[06:35] <Madpilot> Rex: yes, with an optional number of oooos in ubuntooooonian :P
[06:35] <bshumate> NobodyHere: check it out, and man savelog
[06:35] <ptlo> bdawg2103: hit 'e' on the ubuntu line in grub (while you're loading it), and see how it's configured...what's your root?
[06:36] <NobodyHere> is savelog a debian thing?  Never heard of it before.
[06:36] <Rex> Madpilot: I guess you learn something new every day.
[06:36] <bk> i downloaded and burned the latest version of ubuntu on a disc and followed the auto installer
[06:36] <cdubya> yeah, I was going to suggest something with cron.daily.....
[06:36] <bshumate> NobodyHere: yes.
[06:36] <NobodyHere> ugh
[06:36] <bshumate> hola Madpilot
[06:36] <bdawg2103> ptlo: my current root is (hd1,0) as configured by the ubuntu installer.. seems to be correct as ubuntu is on my second HD
[06:36] <NobodyHere> thanks
[06:36] <Madpilot> hi bshumate
[06:37] <bk> try changing it to (hd0,0)
[06:37] <ptlo> bdawg2103: *nod* ... and when you try to boot, grub complains, or linux kernel complains?
[06:37] <bshumate> NobodyHere: no problem...i am fairly certain that will be it, as that kinda thing only happens on Debian / Debian-ish distros ;-)
[06:38] <NobodyHere> I just don't understand why it's necessary when logrotate.d is pretty standard everywhere else.  It's irritating.  Oh well.
[06:38] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, anyone have a place they would suggest to find a decent tv tuner card that would work with breezy?
[06:38] <BlackJudas> Can I install a package from dapper (testing)?
[06:38] <CaptainMorgan> nobody uses Konqueror ?
[06:38] <BlackJudas> if so, how?
[06:38] <NobodyHere> djs- standard across the linux world is pretty much Hauppage.
[06:39] <bdawg2103> ptlo: grub complains with filesystem type is fat, partition type 0Xc can't load kernel with "error 15: file not found" ... what is likely going on here is that grub seems to be referencing hd1 with my primary (first) harddrive which is formatted with FAT
[06:39] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, I do
[06:39] <CaptainMorgan> cdubya, hi - how do I make the bookmarks appear in the same window at the main tabs ?
[06:39] <cdubya> Just did that tonight.....
[06:39] <ptlo> bdawg2103: *nod*
[06:40] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, Settings > Toolbars > Bookmark Toolbar
[06:40] <borisattva> has anyone here been succesfull installing gaim-rhythmbox plug in for ubuntu 5.10 ?
[06:40] <djs_2_6> NobodyHere - anything decent but not too expensive?
[06:40] <CaptainMorgan> I positioned the toolbar to the left..
[06:40] <CaptainMorgan> nada
[06:40] <BlackJudas> Hrrrm....
[06:40] <BlackJudas> This sucks.
[06:40] <ptlo> bdawg2103: grub uses bios info to find disks from which it can boot, afaik. maybe, since you switched boot order in bios, grub thinks you've installed stuff on (hd0,0)
[06:40] <bk> has anyone successfully installed the java plugin for firefox?
[06:40] <XiCillin> has anyone instlaled the latest release of nmap on an amd64?
[06:40] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, ?
[06:40] <ptlo> bdawg2103: hit 'e' on line describing the root device, change it to (hd0,0) and try to boot off that
[06:40] <whyameye> what is supposed to be in my /var/run/sudo directory?
[06:40] <bdawg2103> ptlo: using (hd0,0) works
[06:41] <morphix> can someone PLZ help me with openbox?.. i dont know how to configure it or anything.
[06:41] <CaptainMorgan> wtf... I imported the bookmarks earlier... but apparently they weren't saved.. so I have a toolbar to the left, yet there's no bookmarks argh..
[06:41] <bdawg2103> ptlo: after i finised the ubuntu install on disc, i changed the boot order to allow the secondary drive to load first, but that was after the grub install had completed
[06:41] <ptlo> bdawg2103: then i guess that's what the issue was. update your menu.lst to that
[06:41] <ptlo> bdawg2103: i see - that confused grub
[06:41] <CaptainMorgan> cdubya, got it now.. thanks ;)
[06:42] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, I exported my FF bookmarks cause FF was acting wonky. Konqy brought them in nice and when I showed the toolbar, all is good.
[06:42] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, cool.
[06:42] <cdubya> :)
[06:42] <whyameye> cpu scaling: can anybody help me?
[06:42] <bdawg2103> ptlo: will i need to update my Windows XP section of grub as well? if i dont, then both point to (hd0,0).. seems like grub is confused, just dont know what the fix is
[06:43] <nievont> hai..........................
[06:43] <ptlo> bdawg2103: logic would suggest that you update windows to point at hd1,0....but do try it out and see for yourself
[06:43] <bdawg2103> ptlo: ok will make the change right now
[06:44] <ptlo> btw if you already have ntldr boot first, i guess you won't boot xp off of grub
[06:44] <borisattva> when i try to run sh ./configure i get configure erroe c compiler cannot create executables and instructs me to 'view config.log' i typed 'view config.log' and i get a long list with a ton of lins none of which seem sot explicitely state an error.
[06:45] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Q: trying to install msttcorefonts but gtting time out on downloading the exe packages. Should i retry later or something has changed with those fonts? thanks
[06:45] <CaptainMorgan> cdubya, hm.. I like konq's way of displaying the bookmarks...
[06:45] <CaptainMorgan> horizontally
[06:46] <CaptainMorgan> the orientation is left...
[06:46] <brenner> borisattva: what are you compiling?
[06:46] <bdawg2103> ptlo: actually i cant load grub from the ntldr, it just fais with "GRUB"
[06:46] <ptlo> bdawg2103: oh, I see :(
[06:47] <deluxe___> does anyone have ubuntu working pretty well on a msi 1029 i just ordered one and havent been able to find much about gentoo on this laptop
[06:47] <borisattva> brenner: a gaim-rhythmbox plug in. i shut down both to make sure they arent restricting modification of some files
[06:47] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, yeah.
[06:47] <bdawg2103> ptlo: yeah, i thought i'd start with booting from the second drive first....
[06:47] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, always did like Konqy
[06:47] <ptlo> bdawg2103: if all this fails, you can always setup grub to use your MBR (from the first disk, where the windows are)
[06:48] <borisattva> i found a line in the log that appears to have stopped the config process, but im having probelm understanding the cause
[06:48] <Diablo69> bshumate: sorry man pc is being a goatwhore again
[06:48] <Diablo69> bshumate: I tried what you said and it didn't work, so I am goign to try and reinstall it with the newest version
[06:48] <bdawg2103> ptlo: i've been told to avoid that, i would ideally not want to mess much with the first disk..
[06:49] <bdawg2103> ptlo: but i know things would be a lot simpler then..
[06:49] <ptlo> bdawg2103: ok, the person who told you that probably has his reasons; i've always used grub on MBR of my first (often only) disk and had no problems
[06:49] <CaptainMorgan> however, ff's ability to keep open a formation as a tree is appealing...
[06:49] <brenner> borisattva: paste the error to a pastebin
[06:50] <bdawg2103> ptlo: i guess i could always restore the NTLDR from a xp recovery disk if i ever have to remove grub
[06:51] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, you talking about managing the bookmarks?
[06:51] <ptlo> bdawg2103: correct
[06:52] <ptlo> bdawg2103: btw i'm out of loop, does fdisk /mbr still work with xp? :)
[06:52] <HIghoS> ptlo: Yes.
[06:52] <borisattva> brenner: http://pastebin.com/492931
[06:53] <Diablo69> anybody know how to disable hotplug or get a realiable version of ubuntu to work
[06:53] <bdawg2103> ptlo: thanks a lot, i'll try making the changes and if not, will put grub on the primary MBR
[06:54] <Diablo69> the most recent one when I tried to intall it, it quit at 70 % and gave me some erro about initrd-tools
[06:54] <ptlo> bdawg2103: ok good luck :)
[06:54] <Diablo69> error*
[06:54] <bdawg2103> ptlo: thanx
[06:55] <Mercury> What could cause openssh-server to completely ignore a user having authorized keys setup?
[06:55] <CaptainMorgan> cdubya, aye
[06:55] <Diablo69> bbl I guess, If anyone wants to help me, feel free to pm me instructions
[06:55] <brenner> borisattva: weird.  compiler problem maybe?  did you install build-essential?
[06:55] <Diablo69> peace
[06:56] <borisattva> brenner: dont know. seraching synaptic for it now.
[06:56] <UncleD> I have a Wifi network and I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 - its detecting my Wireless router which is wep key protected. It says "the interface is active" but i cant seem to gauge if its connected properly.. any helps?
[06:56] <borisattva> brenner: oh.. no.. installing them now
[06:56] <borisattva> i'm new :-D
[06:57] <cdubya> CaptainMorgan, I found Konq's bookmark system pretty easy to use.....doesn't have the two-paned window like FF, but seems very straighforward
[06:57] <brenner> ptlo: mind if i tell you of my dualboot problem?
[06:58] <borisattva> it went thought!
[06:58] <ptlo> brenner: not at all, i'll throw in some advice if i'll be able to
[06:58] <borisattva> thanks brenner
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> cdubya, straightforward yes.... i have over 400... without a tree view it's sorta difficult to get to one.. :)
[06:58] <morphix> how do i add a taskbar to openbox??????!!
[06:59] <brenner> ptlo: trying to set up a dualboot machine.  when booting xp from grub, i get "Error 29:Disk Write Error" straight after.  if i restore the mbr, i get "Error loading operating system" instead, so it's not necessarily a grub error. apparently my xp install is being borked somehow by ubuntu's.
[06:59] <brenner> i've read the forum topics.  suggestions were disabling bios write protection (i don't have that option) and running chkdsk (no impact).  i'm pretty sure it's not a hdd problem.  that wouldn't explain why i can install xp/ubuntu fine on their lonesome. any ideas?
[06:59] <brenner> borisattva: did it work?
[07:00] <brenner> borisattva: you might also want to use checkinstall rather than straight compiling ... it's a nifty tool
[07:00] <borisattva> brenner: it went passed the compiler error, but now it says version of gaim requierment is not met.. it expected to see >=0.7 and mine is 1.5
[07:00] <borisattva> but i guess this is a plugin limitations.. and thanks i'll look into the checkinstall thing
[07:01] <whyameye> why would cpu scaling work, then suddenly break? I'm about to go back to WinXP...
[07:01] <ptlo> brenner: i doubt that ubuntu touched your partition. but perhaps you installed grub on the root sector of the windows partition by accident, which screwed up ntldr?
[07:02] <ptlo> brenner: do you have access to this disk at th emoment? you could take a look at your windows partition and see if ntldr is still there
[07:02] <holycow> what the hell is cpu scaling?
[07:03] <ptlo> holycow: on laptops, cpu lowers its clock if there's no work or the battery is nearly empty
[07:03] <holycow> ah
[07:03] <brenner> ptlo: hang on, i'll need to mount it
[07:04] <ptlo> brenner: no need
[07:04] <ptlo> brenner: sudo less -f <device>
[07:04] <ptlo> and see if NTLDR is mentioned
[07:04] <ptlo> if not, you've got corrupt root sector of the partition
[07:04] <brenner> ptlo: i'm assuming <device> would be /dev/hda?
[07:05] <ptlo> brenner: your windows partition
[07:05] <ptlo> that's /dev/hda1 in my case
[07:06] <brenner> ptlo: you may be on the right track:
[07:06] <brenner> the 1st line is "NTLDR is missing"
[07:06] <brenner> is that the problem?
[07:07] <XiCillin> i think it has to do with windows boot loader
[07:07] <ptlo> hmm..no....that's ok...NTLDR is missing/compressed/Press C-A-D to restart..<- these messages are part of the windows loader
[07:07] <ptlo> that's ok then
[07:07] <brenner> oh
[07:08] <ptlo> if it mentioned GRUB anywhere, that would be a sign of the problem
[07:09] <ptlo> brenner: how did you install xp/ubuntu? first xp then ubuntu, and the installer recognized the windows partition?
[07:09] <brenner> should i do a search then?
[07:09] <morphix> can someone please help me with openbox?? i installed sypanel.. and also put it in my ~/.xsession.. along with the other stuff.. but i still dont have a taskbar,etc
[07:09] <ptlo> brenner: no, it should be in the first few lines
[07:09] <brenner> ptlo: then it's not there
[07:10] <brenner> ptlo: yes, that's the install method i used
[07:10] <slashx1896> hey all
[07:10] <brenner> at the partitioning stage, i took the bootable flag off all the partitions
[07:10] <allison_1984> hey slash
[07:10] <brenner> and chose instead to install grub to mbr
[07:10] <ptlo> brenner: set the windows partition to bootable
[07:11] <ptlo> brenner: older windows required that flag (although it's pointless), i'm not sure about xp
[07:11] <slashx1896> can someone help me i just got cpdvd and i wanna copy a dvd to my hard disk
[07:11] <brenner> ptlo: could i do that w/out reinstalling ubuntu?
[07:11] <slashx1896> how do i copy a dvd thats in my cd tray, to the hard disk using cpdvd?
[07:11] <ptlo> brenner: of course, run fdisk of your choice (i prefer cfdisk), and toggle bootable flag, and then write the partition table and exit
[07:12] <ptlo> brenner: you will need to reboot to test if that makes any difference, though :)
[07:12] <ZekeThePlumber> hey guys, have you seen this??
[07:13] <ZekeThePlumber> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/nUbuntu_Developers_Release_2_-_SP2
[07:13] <brenner> ptlo: i'm guessing i can't run either fdisk or cfdisk right atm?
[07:13] <ZekeThePlumber> it actually aint that bad...
[07:13] <ptlo> brenner: you can, just sudo cfdisk /dev/hda
[07:13] <slashx1896> Can anyone help me on how to use cpdvd?
[07:13] <ZekeThePlumber> digg it
[07:14] <rex> slashx1896: I would read the documentation, since you haven't been getting any luck here.
[07:14] <slashx1896> :\ lol k
[07:14] <ZekeThePlumber> help em out
[07:14] <brenner> ptlo: done. rebooting now
[07:14] <ptlo> brenner: ok, good luck!
[07:14] <brenner> thanks
[07:14] <bunghole> hello
[07:14] <bunghole> how are you guys doing? (like i really care anyway )
[07:14] <bunghole> :D
[07:15] <slashx1896> rex, where is the cpdvd documentation
[07:15] <GTroy> anyone know what process gam_server is?
[07:15] <bunghole> i just got home from a LUG meeitng, and they were handing out 5.10 cd packs. live cd and install cd
[07:15] <GTroy> I'm running top, and don't know what it is....
[07:15] <bunghole> i run debian sarge/testing on both my pcs, and i am sick of old packages
[07:15] <bunghole> i want to give ubuntu a shot
[07:15] <rex> slashx1896: I have no clue. You could try "man cpdvd" if it has man pages... google... I dunno.
[07:15] <morphix> :( i need a taskbar.
[07:15] <slashx1896> nope..
[07:15] <slashx1896> im trying google
[07:15] <bunghole> the thing i like about debian is that you can install the base system, and then install whatever you want
[07:15] <bunghole> can you do that with ubuntu?
[07:16] <bunghole> like built your own OS kinda deal with whatever packages
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> bunghole, yes
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> you can install a "server" install
[07:16] <bunghole> wicked!
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> which is just the base system
[07:16] <seth_k|lappy> and then add packages
[07:16] <bunghole> ok
[07:16] <bunghole> i just wanted to know that before I went ahead and did it
[07:17] <bunghole> is xfce4.2  available for ubuntu?
[07:17] <bunghole> i could use a link (i can't find one on google) that describes the differences between ubuntu and debian
[07:17] <ejofee> how do i install flash player in such a way that i could see it manifesting its presence in opera (a norwegian browser that, according to statistics, nobody knows, but is best)
[07:18] <bunghole> down with opera
[07:18] <bunghole> !
[07:18] <ubotu> No idea, bunghole
[07:18] <bunghole> j/k
[07:18] <rex> silly ejofee, everyone knows opera
[07:18] <rex> It's just that everyone hates it
[07:18] <rex> ;)
[07:18] <ejofee> rex :)
[07:18] <bunghole> the people in #debian are assholes
[07:18] <bunghole> :(
[07:18] <ejofee> rex: do *you* (thou) hate opera?
[07:18] <bunghole> i think i'll go with ubuntu
[07:19] <ejofee> bunghole: why are they assholes?
[07:19] <rex> ejofee: I've used it, but saw no reason to use it over firefox, (plus the whole open-source is awesome thing) so uninstalled.
[07:19] <rex> ejofee: it's better than IE, at least.
[07:19] <brenner> ptlo: you sir, are a genuis!
[07:19] <brenner> it worked
[07:19] <bunghole> because most of them are egotistical insufferable know it alls who are extremely rude
[07:20] <ejofee> rex: the most important opera feature is that it automatically saves current session, which gives me a cool sense of comfort and security
[07:20] <ejofee> rex: most important to me, that is
[07:20] <ejofee> anyway, how do i install flash in opera (a norwegian browser)
[07:20] <ptlo> brenner: heheh cool, i'm glad it worked :)
[07:20] <bunghole> it was a combination of mostly the debian userbase, plus the old software that pissed me off
[07:20] <rex> ejofee: sounds good for my Windows computer that crashes, but... ;)
[07:20] <bunghole> ubuntu was being praised by the entire 40 people present at the linux user group meeting tonight
[07:20] <bunghole> so i'll give it a go
[07:20] <deFrysk> to install opera properly make sure to install lesstif
[07:20] <bunghole> heh
[07:21] <brenner> ptlo: so basically, it was me who borked it. :)
[07:21] <ejofee> rex: heh, right... but sometimes i accidentally ctrl+alt+bksp my x11 server, you know :)
[07:21] <deFrysk> ejofee, install lesstif
[07:21] <bunghole> i will do that tomorrow, i'll have to backup a lot of config files
[07:21] <bunghole> damn
[07:21] <ejofee> deFrysk: what for?
[07:21] <deFrysk> for flash to work properly in opera
[07:21] <ejofee> deFrysk: ohh, for plugins support?
[07:21] <raul> hi people
[07:22] <rex> ejofee: Haven't done that yet, but you never know I guess ;)
[07:22] <bunghole> hi raul
[07:22] <Mercury> Arrgh, I have two systems, with identical pam and sshd configurations, only one works for this and the other doesn't.
[07:22] <Kindred> hi raul
[07:22] <Mercury> Really doesn't..
[07:22] <ejofee> deFrysk: right, thanks.
[07:22] <deFrysk> ejofee, yes
[07:22] <deFrysk> yw
[07:22] <raul> i am new in this
[07:22] <SpecialBuddy> so has anyone here used gentoo at all
[07:22] <ptlo> brenner: it happens ... you didn't break anything (beyond a quick fix) so that's ok....windows *is* pretty stupid about requiring that flag, anyways...it hasn't been used since ages (in fact, i've never witnessed it been used, except to confuse people)
[07:22] <deFrysk> SpecialBuddy, yes I have
[07:22] <ejofee> deFrysk: but... which one? 1, 2?
[07:22] <raul> sorry if some things y can not understand
[07:22] <SpecialBuddy> do you like it?
[07:23] <deFrysk> lesstif1
[07:23] <deFrysk> SpecialBuddy, i like ubuntu yes
[07:23] <ejofee> deFrysk: thanks again.
[07:23] <rex> I also like Ubuntu
[07:23] <brenner> ptlo: *nod* strange.  i am certain i've done installs where i've haven't had the bootable flag enabled though
[07:23] <SpecialBuddy> which one do you like more
[07:23] <deFrysk> SpecialBuddy, ubuntu otherwise i would not use it ;)
[07:23] <ptlo> brenner: *shrug* i always leave it on, just to be on the safe side..
[07:23] <SpecialBuddy> oh
[07:24] <raul> some can said me how y can instal the new amsn?? please
[07:24] <SpecialBuddy> what do you do if you want to use two monitors with ubuntu?
[07:24] <rex> SpecialBuddy: You're asking in the wrong channel if you are looking for people that don't like Ubuntu.
[07:24] <brenner> ptlo: well, thankyou anyways.  i must have done at least 8 reinstalls of xp and ubuntu in total yesterday
[07:24] <ptlo> brenner: ouch! :(
[07:24] <slashx1896> Anyonehere good at dvd ripping using dvdshrink/dvdbackup
[07:24] <bunghole> ubuntu comes with gnome installed.  i don't want gnome.  I want xfce4.2.  so i should install a server system (base system).  i do that with debian too, then i install alsa etc, and get sound, then i move on to other stuff.  if i know how to use debian quite really well, can i manage with ubuntu?
[07:24] <slashx1896> im using a HOWTO, but im getting an error
[07:25] <slashx1896> and i need this dvd coppied and burned by tmrw..
[07:25] <brenner> ptlo: yeah.  it's fair to say i don't like the colour blue anymore :)
[07:25] <rex> slash1896: I've used DVD X Copy and FairUse under windows, never had any problems.
[07:25] <deFrysk> bunghole, install xubuntu-desktop to get xfce4.2
[07:25] <SpecialBuddy> anyone know about the monitor issue?
[07:25] <slashx1896> rex, im using ubuntu not windows
[07:25] <rex> slashx1896: I guessed as much
[07:25] <bunghole> deFrysk, the LUG meeting tonight were giving out breezy cds
[07:25] <slashx1896> im trying to do it as this HOWTO says but i have an error
[07:25] <rex> slashx1896: just trying to be as helpful as possible.
[07:25] <bunghole> xubuntu-desktop is a package?
[07:25] <slashx1896> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5904&highlight=dvd+ripping
[07:25] <ptlo> brenner: heh ;-) good thing ubuntu ships with brown by default :)
[07:26] <slashx1896> whats this mean?
[07:26] <slashx1896> You must provide a title name when you read your DVD-Video structure direct from the HD
[07:26] <deFrysk> bunghole, if you have space , do a standard install , after that install xubuntu-desktop and remove the gnome/etc bits you do not like
[07:26] <SpecialBuddy> anyone know about monitors with ubuntu?
[07:26] <Slaj_R> Question -- When running configure for a new package, I get "configure: error: Can't find 'javac' in your PATH."  What's the course of action?
[07:27] <ptlo> SpecialBuddy: that's called xinerama - if you have nvidia card, check out http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[07:27] <slashx1896> anyone know what the last thing i just said means?
[07:27] <deFrysk> bunghole, or if you prefer , a minimum install and after that install xubuntu-desktop
[07:27] <bunghole> deFrysk, i am a bsd nut, i usually don't deal with precompiled binaries, but on linux, i don't want to have to recomiple if i can find precompiled binaries.  i see what you are saying, but i'd rather just do a minimal system install with networking, then just install whatever packages i need
[07:27] <bunghole> i like doing that
[07:27] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[07:27] <bunghole> deFrysk, yes my man, thats what i want
[07:28] <bunghole> ok i go ti, thanks
[07:28] <bunghole> got it*
[07:28] <SpecialBuddy> I don't have an nvidia card
[07:28] <bunghole> i do
[07:28] <bunghole> :D
[07:29] <deFrysk> me too ;p
[07:29] <bunghole> oh
[07:29] <bunghole> hey deFrysk
[07:29] <Mercury> Son of a bitch.
[07:29] <raul> soem know were i can get a program for lisent music in the internet
[07:29] <raul> like a radio
[07:29] <raul> or radio please
[07:29] <rex> hahaha
[07:30] <deFrysk> raul, shoutcast.com
 sorry
[07:30] <bunghole> another q.  i have nvidia 32mb geforce mx2/200 card.  on debian i usually have to get kernel-common -glx etc and build the nvidia modules and install it, before i get video to work.  is it the same way with ubuntu?  does ubuntu have that crazy stable/testing/unstable bullshit like debian or is it clean from that retarded crazyness?
[07:30] <raul> ok thanks i am going to check defrysk
[07:31] <deFrysk> bunghole, for old card we have nvidia-legacy or smething , make sure to use that package
[07:31] <bunghole> deFrysk, well do i need to build the kernel module for nvidia, or is there a precompled binary for it?
[07:31] <ptlo> SpecialBuddy: what kind of card do you have?
[07:31] <deFrysk> !nvidia
[07:31] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:31] <SpecialBuddy> well it's integrated on my laptop
[07:32] <bunghole> im sorry to be so inquisitive, but i have severe add, and i can't pay attention to shit i read on a website more than 4 minute
[07:32] <deFrysk> bunghole, read ubotu 's line
[07:32] <ptlo> SpecialBuddy: i'm guessing it's either ati or intel? can you check?
[07:32] <SpecialBuddy> intel
[07:32] <slashx1896> why wont libdvdread read the title of my dvd??
[07:32] <SpecialBuddy> intel something
[07:32] <SpecialBuddy> not sure how to check right off hand
[07:32] <bunghole> yeh im on it
[07:32] <bunghole> thanks
[07:32] <ejofee> deFrysk: i installed lesstif... now what?
[07:33] <deFrysk> bunghole, again get the legacy package for older nvidia-cards ;)
[07:33] <slashx1896> Does anyone know why libdvdread wont read the title ofmy dvd? and i missing something?
[07:33] <ejofee> deFrysk: (restarted opera. still doesn't work.)
[07:33] <deFrysk> ejofee, have you installed flash ?
[07:33] <raul> ok my friends i am gonna to sleep
[07:33] <slashx1896> Guess no one knoes why..
[07:34] <raul> because yesterday i intal ubuntu in my pc soo y need sleep
[07:34] <ejofee> deFrysk: it seems so. flashplugin-nonfree is what i installed.
[07:35] <bunghole> i hear debian is pissed cuz most of thier developers are moving to ubuntu?
[07:35] <Erasmus> i have a bit of a problem, whenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Therman and Fan and freezes
[07:35] <bunghole> is that true?
[07:35] <raul> see you
[07:35] <ptlo> SpecialBuddy: to enable xinerama, you'll have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf , see the example at http://www.nozell.com/marc/data/xorg.conf-dual-head-xinerama (that guy has ati radeon, but nevermind that) - scroll to the end, see section "ServerLayout"
[07:35] <bunghole> not that it matters, just wondering though
[07:35] <deFrysk> ejofee, any errormassages when starting opera ?
[07:35] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[07:35] <ejofee> deFrysk: should i have installed flashplayer-mozilla?
[07:35] <Satan>  oy I have a major problem
[07:35] <deFrysk> ejofee, in breezy ?
[07:36] <deFrysk> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[07:36] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[07:36] <ptlo> SpecialBuddy: you can copy-paste your "Screen" section to create another one with a different name, and then follow the logic in ServerLayout
[07:36] <Satan> I got the new ubuntu to install, and I added the pci=noacpi at the end of the  kernel line
[07:36] <Satan> and it still won't get past the hotplug
[07:36] <ejofee> deFrysk: yes, breezy. what i installed is 22 kb. flashplayer-mozilla (which i haven't installed) is more than 600 kb.
[07:36] <Satan> I also unplugged every one of my usb devices
[07:36] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[07:36] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[07:36] <Satan> any idea?
[07:36] <ptlo> SpecialBuddy: there are different layouts you can use, google for their list/meaning
[07:36] <deFrysk>  flashplayer-mozilla is for breezy
[07:36] <ptlo> np
[07:36] <Erasmus> i have a bit of a problem, whenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Therman and Fan and freezes
[07:37] <deFrysk> ejofee, so yes correct
[07:37] <deFrysk> ejofee, install flashplayer-mozilla
[07:37] <polpak> Gah
[07:37] <polpak> This shouldn't be that hard
[07:38] <ejofee> deFrysk: thank you. i thought it was mozilla only. is seems it should be named "flashplayer-mozilla-and-compatible"
[07:38] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[07:38] <polpak> Does anyone know where I can go to get help configuring X11 to use a clone display on an i855 chipset vid card for a laptop w/ CRT out?
[07:38] <Erasmus> can ANYONE help me???
[07:38] <deFrysk> ejofee, no the one you install now is ment for breezy , the one you had is for hoary
[07:39] <deFrysk> !anyone
[07:39] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[07:39] <ejofee> deFrysk: then any idea why do i have them both in breezy repos?
[07:39] <ejofee> deFrysk: some ubuntu interversion compatibility purposes?
[07:39] <Erasmus> defrysk: yeah, i've asked my questions twice now
[07:39] <deFrysk> ejofee, I have them both too but I read the docs ;)
[07:39] <polpak> deFrysk, I did ask the real question ;p
[07:39] <ejofee> deFrysk: then again, why this *huge* difference in package file size?
[07:39] <deFrysk> ejofee, dunno
[07:40] <Satan> ubotu: what is a good way to disable hotplug so it won't freeze my system
[07:40] <ejofee> deFrysk: i see. thank you very much.
[07:40] <ubotu> Satan: what are you talking about?
[07:40] <deFrysk> ejofee, ask in #ubuntu-motu
[07:40] <Erasmus> i have a bit of a problem, whenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Thermal and Fan and freezes
[07:40] <Satan> ubotu: when I rebooted my pc after intalling the newest version on ubuntu, It went to boot, and it froze at hotplug
[07:40] <ubotu> Satan: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[07:41] <deFrysk> Satan, ubotu = a bot
[07:41] <franky123> Satan: ubotu is a bot
[07:41] <Erasmus> Satan: ubotu is a program, not a real person
[07:41] <polpak> ubotu, tell Satan about ubotu
[07:41] <rex> hahahaha
[07:41] <Satan> well anywho
[07:41] <deFrysk> 4some
[07:41] <rex> That was fast
[07:41] <Satan> will somebody please point me in the wrong direction, I hvae tried google before asking
[07:41] <Satan> some say its a fan problem, a heat sinc is loose, or a bad iso
[07:41] <deFrysk> Satan, wrong direction ?
[07:41] <Madpilot> Satan: the wrong direction? :P
[07:41] <rex> I'll point you in the wrong direction if you want...
[07:41] <rex> goatse comes to mind.
[07:42] <Satan> I met the right direction
[07:42] <Satan> I haven't slept much lol
[07:42] <Erasmus> try stabbing your PC with a screwdriver... thats a good direction not to go in
[07:42] <deFrysk> silly Satan never sleeps
[07:42] <Satan> preety much
[07:42] <Satan> up 24 hours
[07:42] <Satan> I sleep 2
[07:42] <polpak> Does anyone know where I can go to get help configuring X11 to use a clone display on an i855 chipset vid card for a laptop w/ CRT out?
[07:42] <Satan> and od it over
[07:42] <Satan> do*
[07:43] <Erasmus> whenever i try to boot into Ubuntu, it gives me 2 fatal errors, it tries to open Thermal and Fan and freezes
[07:43] <polpak> Like where do the xorg guru's hang out? ;p
[07:43] <Satan> deFrysk: do you know why my pc freezes at hotplug
[07:44] <bobby> Erasmus, stabbing your pc with a screw driver doesn't really cause that much havoc....at least I've found :)
[07:44] <rex> bobby: You must have missed a step somewhere. Did you remove the case first? ;)
[07:44] <Erasmus> bobby: your not stabbing in the right places then
[07:45] <bobby> polpak, people debian tend to be able to help out with more technical questions...just don't gloat that you are a ubuntu user and they wont ask if you're not
[07:45] <Satan> naw but a lb will make a nice fire :))
[07:45] <Erasmus> ugh, i give up, i'm getting nothing here but a headache from repeating myself
[07:45] <Mr_Milenko> sucks dude
[07:45] <Mr_Milenko> i get humour
[07:45] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[07:46] <bobby> rex, hehe mmm case on :D ...to be honest though, many a time have I slipped with the old jab to get the heat sink on and given the mobo a good stabbing in the proccess to no ill effect
[07:46] <polpak> bobby, #debian on FreeNode?
[07:46] <bobby> polpak, indeed
[07:46] <slashx1896> Where can i get libdvdcss??
[07:47] <bobby> wiki.ubuntu.com/restrictedformats
[07:47] <bobby> or some thing
[07:47] <bobby> like that
[07:47] <bobby> guide ^_^
[07:47] <Mr_Milenko> message ubotu
[07:47] <ilba7r> slashx you can find it in ubontu backport repos
[07:47] <Satan> try dvd decrypter via wine @ slash
[07:47] <Mr_Milenko> and ask him about restricted formats
[07:47] <Satan> it works better
[07:47] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[07:47] <franky123> !libdvdcss
[07:47] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:47] <Mr_Milenko> pfft
[07:47] <bobby> got it right :D
[07:47] <Mr_Milenko> dvd2xbox.. use my xbox as a workhorse and transfer the files via smb ;)
[07:48] <slashx1896> i need a dvd copied and burned tonite
[07:48] <ilba7r> !backport
[07:48] <ubotu> I guess backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:48] <trappist> slashx1896: I told you like 10 hours ago what's up with that
[07:48] <ilba7r> slashx add the repos and you can then use apt get to install libdvdcss2
[07:49] <slashx1896> lol
[07:49] <slashx1896> u did?
[07:49] <slashx1896> im soo tired and confused..
[07:49] <Satan> yeah same here
[07:49] <bobby> slashx1896, dvd::rip
[07:49] <bobby> or k3b
[07:49] <bobby> or gnome-something
[07:49] <trappist> slashx1896: unless you have dual-layer dvd writer and media, and you probably don't, you can't just copy.  you need to rip + encode, and that's not likely to happen tonight.
[07:50] <bobby> indeed
[07:50] <Kindred> dual layer to single layer in linux.. I have not yet found a way to do that
[07:50] <Mr_Milenko> wrong..
[07:50] <Mr_Milenko> dont need to encode O_o
[07:50] <Mr_Milenko> hes trying to rip i beleive
[07:50] <slashx1896> Ya
[07:50] <trappist> Mr_Milenko: rip=encode
[07:50] <Mr_Milenko> no..
[07:50] <Mr_Milenko> decode
[07:50] <Mr_Milenko> well decrypt
[07:50] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:50] <trappist> mkay.
[07:51] <rex> If you're trying to put it on another DVD
[07:51] <rex> That isn't dual layer
[07:51] <Mr_Milenko> well true..
[07:51] <rex> you're going to have to re-encode.
[07:51] <Mr_Milenko> so i guess were all right
[07:51] <trappist> we're not talking about the encryption.  we're talking about commercial dvds are 9 gb and single-layer media are only half that.
[07:52] <Satan> haha you guys wern't kidding about people in debian not like ubuntu much :))
[07:52] <slashx1896> um.. well a question about libdvdcss, im trying to get it and it keeps saying
[07:52] <slashx1896> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[07:52] <Mr_Milenko> They're just pissed cause people think debian is just a package managment system now :P
[07:52] <trappist> people in #debian pretty much like debian.
[07:52] <Satan> k
[07:52] <ptlo> slashx1896: you probably have synaptic open, and it's locked the package database
[07:52] <Mr_Milenko> and whenever you say deb... people think of ubuntu
[07:52] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:52] <Satan> they said
[07:52] <slashx1896> ahh thought so
[07:52] <slashx1896> lo
[07:52] <slashx1896> *
[07:52] <Satan> "fuck off to #ubuntu"
[07:52] <Satan> :))
[07:52] <deFrysk> trappist, makes sense :)
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> stop trolling
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> those guys are too "Proper" to say fuck off to a channel
[07:53] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:53] <rex> haha
[07:53] <Satan> I hae proof
[07:53] <ptlo> Satan: you sure you didn't provoke them first, mentioning ubuntu and debian in a way that they weren't comfortable with? :)
[07:53] <Satan> one sec
[07:53] <Satan> <--knows fbsd like the back of his hand
[07:53] <Satan> I heard about unbuntu from a friend
[07:54] <UncleD> I have a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 w/ Wireless-G PCI Adapter WM p54g card in my box. I have the "windows cd" with a drivers folder in it which has a .INF file in it. How do I get ubuntu to install these drivers?
[07:54] <slashx1896> Right now im trying to backup my dvd files.. and im using dvdbackup.. but it says u must provide a title name when you read your dvd
[07:54] <Mr_Milenko> ok then... tell me something about FreeBSD and ill tell you if your wrong or not :P
[07:54] <Satan> what do you wanna know
[07:54] <Mr_Milenko> just tell me anything
[07:54] <makkk> So, any reason at all why I shouldnt reformat my NTFS to FAT before I set up a dual boot?
[07:54] <Satan> dude I have been on that os for at least 2 years
[07:55] <Satan> to much to tell
[07:55] <Satan> but uhh
[07:55] <rex> Mr_Milenko: FreeBSD is teh sux0r
[07:55] <rex> How's that ;)
[07:55] <slashx1896> The people in debian told me about ubuntu lol
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> rex: of course ;)
[07:55] <Satan> if you create a file called .xinitrc
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> rofl
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> you fail
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> next contestant?
[07:55] <rex> Hey, I won, right?
[07:55] <Satan> gheh you said anything
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> yes
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> you get a cookie
[07:55] <rex> k
[07:55] <LordMelkor> is there anyway to disable the system beep
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> congratulations
[07:55] <rex> sweet.
[07:55] <LordMelkor> its really irritating
[07:55] <rex> "I'd like to thank...
[07:55] <Mr_Milenko> now i need 15 dollars and your address
[07:55] <rex> Satan.
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> so i can ship it
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[07:56] <rex> hehehehe
[07:56] <Satan> rex: sup?
[07:56] <zosologist> im bored as crap
[07:56] <Mr_Milenko> i like cheese
[07:56] <rex> Satan: I was saying I wanted to thank satan. I forgot you were here.
[07:56] <zosologist> anyone have any ideas?
[07:56] <polpak> Does anyone know where I can go to get help configuring X11 to use a clone display on an i855 chipset vid card for a laptop w/ CRT out?
[07:56] <rex> zosologist: http://www.altavista.com/image/randomlink
[07:56] <rex> zosologist: boredom eliminator.
[07:56] <zosologist> man its gonna be awefull i bet
[07:56] <slashx1896> hey.. im using dvdbackup and i keep getting, this error what does it mean?
[07:56] <slashx1896> You must provide a title name when you read your DVD-Video structure direct from the HD
[07:56] <Satan> Mr_Milenko: I do know one thing, copying dvds on fbsd sucks ass
[07:56] <Satan> :P
[07:57] <darkritual> Satan is on earth wheee
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> copying dvds on any os sucks ass
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> buy em
[07:57] <rex> Zosologist: It's a link to a random page on the internet. It could be horrible, or not...
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> or use a real mans operating system
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> DOS
[07:57] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896-> are you trying to copy the entire ocntents of a dvd?
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:57] <Satan> lol
[07:57] <LordMelkor> how can i disable the system beep?
[07:57] <rex> zosologist: The first time I tried it, it brought be to some freaky female bondage porn, so...
[07:57] <slashx1896> Ya
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> rip out your system speaker
[07:57] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:57] <morphix> how do i take a screenshot and save it to a file?
[07:57] <LordMelkor> ew
[07:57] <zosologist> rex: lol great stuff
[07:57] <Kr0ntab> dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o .
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> thats what i did... seriously
[07:58] <Kr0ntab> that will do it
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:58] <rex> Mr_Milenko: That's the best solution to anything ever
[07:58] <crimsun> LordMelkor: System> Preferences> Sound> System Bell
[07:58] <Kr0ntab> -M copies everything....
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> and if anyone thinks i'm trolling.. its not intentional..
[07:58] <LordMelkor> thx
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> i do help..
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> but in a smartass sort of way
[07:58] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[07:58] <Satan> hey do you think this would hep with my hotplug issue
[07:58] <slashx1896> ive been doing dvdbackup -M -i/path/to/dvd/drive -o/path/to/folder
[07:58] <Kr0ntab> -i is the interface... and "-o ." means output in the current directory
[07:58] <darkritual> Any one knows if Sound Blaster Live Value supports Dolby 5.1 ?
[07:58] <laughs> Hey I have been trying to get my lexmark z11 working but get an error when compiling the source for the driver. Does anyone think they can help? http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1415601&forum_id=205790
[07:59] <Satan> try booting into single user mode and `dpkg --purge hotplug
[07:59] <darkritual> laughs, got any errors or?
[07:59] <Mr_Milenko> dude i thought that guys nick said forsk1n at first >_<
[07:59] <laughs> darkritual, view the link.
[07:59] <darkritual> okay...
[07:59] <slashx1896> krontab, ive been doing dvdbackup -M -i/path/to/dvd/drive -o/path/to/folder, and what i showd u is what i got
[07:59] <rex> Mr_Milenko: wow, man. Just wow.
[08:00] <Mr_Milenko> im half asleep..
[08:00] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:00] <Mr_Milenko> my eyes are playing tricks on me
[08:00] <darkritual> laughs, you need an libery
[08:00] <slashx1896> i am in a way also...
[08:00] <laughs> darkritual, do you know which one?
[08:00] <zosologist> rex: thats hilarious its a new bookmark
[08:01] <darkritual> laughs,  one to compile i don't know but it could be GCC libery's
[08:01] <rex> zosologist: Glad I could help ease your pain ;)
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896-> hmmm...   try exactly as I put it.  spaces between flags and values..... and CD to the output directory you wish first....
[08:01] <laughs> ah ok I will have a look around synaptic. Thanks.
[08:01] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896-> not sure if it's getting hung up on minor syntactical issues....
[08:02] <slashx1896> Wait so what did u say? lol
[08:02] <trappist> laughs: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:02] <Satan> bbl guys
[08:02] <Satan> googlling for the answer
[08:02] <Satan> ...again
[08:02] <laughs> ok thanks trappist.
[08:02] <rex> Sweet, Satan is leaving. Now we can be BAD!
[08:02] <slashx1896> alrite i did CD to my output folder
[08:02] <darkritual> laughs,  try: sudo apt-get install lib64gcc1
[08:02] <Naughty-Nurse> :P
[08:02] <slashx1896> haha
[08:02] <rex> :O
[08:02] <darkritual> ohh we got an nurse :o
[08:02] <darkritual> Naughty-Nurse, ive been bad punish me :D
[08:03] <rex> Woooahh
[08:03] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[08:03] <Naughty-Nurse> hehe
[08:03] <Mr_Milenko> You know thats a guy right
[08:03] <Mr_Milenko> O_o
[08:03] <Mr_Milenko> look at the adams apple
[08:03] <darkritual> Dousnt matter its a female now XD
[08:03] <Mr_Milenko> its buldging from his neck!
[08:03] <slashx1896> kr0ntab, so do dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o while CD to my output folder
[08:03] <Naughty-Nurse> anywho guys bbl
[08:03] <ardchoille> Skippy is nice: http://img491.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7tw.png
[08:03] <slashx1896> cya later
[08:04] <Kr0ntab> remember the space and period after -o
[08:04] <Mr_Milenko> Every guy on the internet is a nerd in some way, but on the other hand, every chick on the internet is a guy... What a sad world we live in!
[08:04] <Kr0ntab> "dvdbackup -M -i /dev/dvd -o ."
[08:04] <darkritual> ardchoille, nice opacity settings
[08:05] <zosologist> its official
[08:05] <allison_1984> Mr-Milenko: wrong ! I am a tomboy....lol
[08:05] <zosologist> the internet needs to be stopped
[08:05] <ardchoille> darkritual: That is skippy
[08:05] <zosologist> 25 random pages in a row
[08:05] <darkritual> ardchoille, who is skippy?
[08:05] <zosologist> porn
[08:05] <zosologist> PORN
[08:05] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[08:05] <zosologist> for the love of god shouldnt everyone be chafed beoynd recognition?
[08:05] <zosologist> like tiny strips of grated man flesh
[08:05] <zosologist> guh
[08:06] <ardchoille> darkritual: skippy is a visual task manager. takes a snapshot of all windows and displays them as thumbnails allowing you to choose between them
[08:06] <DRAGON_Ultra> this room is going down hill
[08:06] <slashx1896> kr0ntab, it only got like 6 files.. and its not done or moving its stuck at elapsed time 1,
[08:06] <rex> zosologist: hehehehehe
[08:06] <zosologist> wait i found some cool rocks
[08:07] <rex> zosologist: You know, the internet is for porn.
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896-> from another terminal... while the command is sitting there....   cd to the path of the output....
[08:07] <slashx1896> k
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896-> you'll the a directory named the same as the dvd's volume name... and VIDEO_TS directory within....
[08:08] <slashx1896> yup
[08:08] <slashx1896> and in VIDEO_TS theres only 6 files
[08:08] <ilba7r> !networkmanager
[08:08] <ubotu> networkmanager is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[08:08] <slashx1896> on the dvd udner VIDEO_TS thers alot more
[08:08] <Naughty-Nurse> damn I wish google was more of a help
[08:09] <slashx1896> lol google fail on you?
[08:09] <Kr0ntab> cd in there... and type     "watch -n 1 ls -lht"
[08:09] <Kr0ntab> :-)   that will show you progress as it happens within the directory
[08:09] <Naughty-Nurse> I can't seem to find anywhere where it tells me how to turn off hotplug
[08:10] <Kr0ntab> did the dvdbackup command finish?
[08:10] <slashx1896> no
[08:10] <slashx1896> its stuck
[08:10] <Kr0ntab> ok cool...
[08:10] <slashx1896> its not doign anything but its not finsihed
[08:10] <Kr0ntab> it will just stay there for a while...
[08:10] <Kr0ntab> its working probably....
[08:10] <slashx1896> o ok for about how long?
[08:10] <polpak> Does anyone know how to set up xorg.conf to do a cloned display with an i855 onboard video for a laptop?
[08:11] <Kr0ntab> ripping a dvd depends on size... but my dvdbackup rips take about 10 minutes.... depending on size
[08:11] <slashx1896> the movie is 2hrs thats all i know
[08:11] <Diablo69> oy
[08:11] <vultaire> newbie question: console command to see a list of pids?
[08:11] <Diablo69> I liked my old nick 2 :(
[08:11] <laughs> thanks for that trappist and darkritual it was the build-essentials that was needed. :)
[08:12] <laughs> Printer is working :)
[08:12] <kameron> vultaire: ps
[08:12] <darkritual> laughs, it was just my lucky gues XD
[08:12] <vultaire> thx
[08:12] <darkritual> People help me and i help people thats why the linux community is so strong
[08:12] <slashx1896> kr0ntab its frozen on these 2 lines or w.e
[08:12] <slashx1896> libdvdread: Found 6 VTS's
[08:12] <slashx1896>   libdvdread: Elapsed time 1
[08:12] <Diablo69> could I blacklist hotplug?
[08:12] <Kr0ntab> slash.... cd into the VIDEO_TS folder
[08:12] <bunghole> vultaire, man ps.  commonly used ps argument ' ps x ' ps auxf
[08:12] <bunghole> etc.
[08:13] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  you can add modules to hotplug's blacklist
[08:13] <slashx1896> in the other terminal?
[08:13] <Diablo69> I need to stop it completly
[08:13] <Diablo69> cuz thats what screws me over
[08:13] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, yes.. in another
[08:13] <Diablo69> there has to be SOME way to turn it off
[08:13] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  hehe... could be worth upgrading to dapper.
[08:13] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  in dapper there is no hotplug, its udev that manages it now :)
[08:13] <Kr0ntab> cd in there... and type     "watch -n 1 ls -lht"   without the quotes....
[08:14] <Diablo69> is dapper, ubuntu?
[08:14] <darkritual> laughs
[08:14] <kameron> i connected a hard drive.. it's ntfs. how do i mount it?
[08:14] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  but if not, hotplug can be deactivated at boot, as it is an init.d service that runs
[08:14] <SpecialBuddy> why is it so hard to use two monitors?
[08:14] <kameron> Diablo69: it's the next release, due out for april
[08:14] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  dapper is the unsbale version, to be released stable 04/06
[08:14] <Diablo69> how would I deactivate it
[08:14] <vultaire> bunghole: thx, very useful
[08:14] <slashx1896> ooo i did hte output and did the watch command not the video_TS in the output
[08:14] <slashx1896> kk
[08:14] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  sudo update-rc.d remove -f hotplug
[08:14] <kameron> vultaire: ps -A | grep programname
[08:15] <kameron> vultaire: that's a good one too
[08:15] <Kr0ntab> you see the files "growing" ?
[08:15] <Diablo69> where do I type that at
[08:16] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  open a console and type away ..... but write down what it says in case you need to put it back.
[08:16] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, you see the files getting larger?
[08:16] <Diablo69> I can't even get past the hotplug when its booting to ubuntu
[08:16] <slashx1896> no
[08:16] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  or even better, install bum and deactivate it without removing it from the rc.S
[08:16] <Diablo69> I haven't even seen ubuntu
[08:16] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  can you boot in safe mode?
[08:16] <Diablo69> I wouldn't know how to
[08:16] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  what stage are you at? did uit finish the installation?
[08:16] <slashx1896> yes
[08:16] <slashx1896> slowly
[08:16] <Diablo69> yes
[08:16] <Diablo69> now it won't boot
[08:17] <ryancasimiro> pls help me: how do you delete a certain line from a text file?
[08:17] <Diablo69> it freezes my box at hotplug
[08:17] <vultaire> kameron: thx
[08:17] <slashx1896> it went from 1.1gig to 1.2gig so yeah its getting larger
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, good... then it working.   have you enabled DMA on yer dvd drive?
[08:17] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  ok. when you boot your PC, press ESC as soon as grub flashes up (just before it starts booting linux)
[08:17] <vultaire> kameron: still need help mounting that ntfs drive?
[08:17] <slashx1896> Dont think i did
[08:17] <Diablo69> k
[08:17] <Diablo69> what then
[08:17] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, it will speed things up dramatically...
[08:17] <slashx1896> how to do it?
[08:17] <kameron> vultaire: well, er, it's mounted. i just forget how to add my username to fstab to i have access to it, right now root is only allowed.
[08:18] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  you can choose the 2nd option, linux kernel with a number + recovery mode
[08:18] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  are you on the same PC in dualboot now?
[08:18] <Diablo69> no
[08:18] <aftertaf> ok cool :] 
[08:18] <vultaire> kameron: imo the easiest way is to set the umask property... this is what I have in my fstab
[08:18] <Diablo69> seperate pc
[08:18] <kameron> vultaire: mine sharing an example?
[08:18] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896,   "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd"
[08:18] <Diablo69> this is a laptop runnign windows
[08:18] <vultaire> kameron: /dev/hda1	/media/win_c	ntfs	ro,umask=0222	0	0
[08:18] <Diablo69> my other is a desktop right nesxt to me
[08:19] <Diablo69> btw
[08:19] <Diablo69> it just said
[08:19] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  what cd did you download to install your ubuntu?
[08:19] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, enabling DMA will speed up the ripping... playing ... and overall CPU utilization.
[08:19] <Diablo69> [429495.510000]  <0> Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[08:20] <SpecialBuddy> how do I use two monitors
[08:20] <Diablo69> I used the newest iso version for i86
[08:20] <SpecialBuddy> ?
[08:20] <SpecialBuddy> or just one
[08:20] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  ok, thats not nice of it ;) newest? was it called breezy or 5.10 ?
[08:20] <kameron> vultaire: when did things change over from being mounted in /mnt to /media?
[08:20] <Diablo69> 5.10 I tank
[08:20] <slashx1896> alrite i enabled it, where i typed the command it said 3 or 4 lines like dma [on]  or w/e but its not done yet
[08:20] <slashx1896> nvm its done
[08:21] <slashx1896> and its enablaed
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, you should also take a look at /etc/hdparm.conf        coool
[08:21] <drviju> how to check DMA?
[08:21] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  ok, do you see any other kernels availabe in that list (when you press ESC), or just 2 entries (one with recovery mode) ?
[08:21] <vultaire> kameron: dunno; I've always done mnt but breezy does media, and I didn't argue with it
[08:21] <Diablo69> yes
[08:21] <Diablo69> just 2 entries
[08:21] <Kr0ntab> sudo /dev/hdparm /dev/hdX
[08:21] <kameron> vaultaire: heh, same with me.
[08:21] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  argh ok.
[08:21] <slashx1896> kr0ntab, whats that?
[08:22] <Kr0ntab> drviju, that was directed to you
[08:22] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  i would recommend you getting the dapper flight 2 cd, its unstable, officially, but relatively stable to use.....
[08:22] <slashx1896> ah
[08:22] <kameron> vultaire: perfect, your line worked for me. thanks a lot.
[08:22] <vultaire> kameron: happy to help
[08:22] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, the hdparm.conf file... check it out....   when you reboot... your dma setting will be gone.   you can set it to turn dma on within that file.
[08:23] <kameron> vultaire: /dev/hdb5       /media/ntfs     ntfs    ro,umask=0222   0       0
[08:23] <Satan> oy sorry aftertaf
[08:23] <kameron> vultaire: it's hard to remember those little things. namely.. ro,umask=0222
[08:23] <Satan> this box sucks
[08:23] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, hows that directory listing
[08:23] <drviju> command not found
[08:23] <aftertaf> Diablo69:  however, you *could/* have a duff ubuntu CD or some hardware problem
[08:23] <Satan> but yes I only see 2 kernels with a memtest below it
[08:23] <rex> Satan: How much does it suck?
[08:23] <Kr0ntab> drviju, im retarded...
[08:23] <Satan> very much
[08:23] <aftertaf> lol
[08:23] <Kr0ntab> major typo
[08:23] <slashx1896> im at almost 2gig
[08:23] <slashx1896> and my dvd is like 9gig
[08:24] <Kr0ntab> sudo hdparm /dev/hdX
[08:24] <aftertaf> Satan:   i would recommend you getting the dapper flight 2 cd, its unstable, officially, but relatively stable to use.....
[08:24] <vultaire> kameron: I remember that one -real- well, I've done lots of dual boot configs trying out different distros, and that was a pain in the ass to set up initially
[08:24] <Satan> can you give me a link pleaz
[08:24] <kameron> vultaire: heh, probably.
[08:24] <Kr0ntab> where hdX is the device you're checking   i.e.    hda   or hdb
[08:24] <aftertaf> oki.    any preference between gnome and kde ?
[08:24] <drviju> does ubuntu require firewall?
[08:24] <aftertaf> drviju:  no.
[08:24] <aftertaf> drviju:  unless you specifically enable some network service and want to hide it from some other network
[08:25] <slashx1896> kr0ntab, so yeah im at 2.0/7.9 gigs
[08:25] <kameron> vultaire: get ps working the way you wanted?
[08:25] <drviju> is it safe to do surf,other activities?
[08:25] <vultaire> kameron: yeah, works great, thx
[08:25] <kameron> vultaire: cool. there's another prog that people like to use, it displays pids, among other things: top
[08:25] <Kr0ntab> like that watch command?   otherwise... you'd have to keep typing ls -lht   which would get boring.
[08:25] <aftertaf> drviju:  totally. nothing is actually open by default, not like windows.. linux is a solid oak door with a moat around it. Windows is a greenhouse ;)
[08:25] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[08:25] <slashx1896> kr0ntab, after its done backing up how long would it take to burn to a new dvd?
[08:26] <drviju> thanks
[08:26] <Kr0ntab> again depends on size and speed of drive....   you have adual layer dvd burner?
[08:26] <slashx1896> idk if i do or not.. people asked me that , how do i find out
[08:26] <Satan> versino 6.04 right @ aftertaf
[08:26] <Satan> version*
[08:26] <drviju> this is very cool i  ues it first ime this is killer foe bill gates!!
[08:27] <Satan> what are the odds of this fixing my problem
[08:27] <Satan> with hotplug
[08:27] <vultaire> kameron: forgot about that one, thx
[08:27] <kameron> vultaire: werd
[08:27] <aftertaf> Satan:  yeah 6.04    http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html
[08:27] <Beleys> Bjour
[08:27] <aftertaf> Satan:  for hotplug? i'd say about 50000% chance ;)
[08:27] <aftertaf> Satan:  cos there is no hotplug in dapper ;)
[08:27] <Satan> so it shoudl run fine on my box
[08:27] <deFrysk> :)
[08:28] <slashx1896> what is dual-layer and single-layer and how do i find out what i have?
[08:28] <aftertaf> Satan:  should just work(tm)
[08:28] <aftertaf> slashx1896:  4.3 vs 8.6 gb dvd
[08:28] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, dual layer means that you can use dual layer dvd media....   max capacity just under 9 gigs....
[08:29] <vultaire> slashx1896: single layer is 4.7gb actually
[08:29] <kameron> !tell kameron about kde
[08:29] <deFrysk> single layer are soo much cheaper
[08:29] <rex> Dual layer MEDIA is crazy expensive.
[08:29] <slashx1896> like how expensive? lol
[08:29] <vultaire> yeah, unless you're doing copies of 3 hour movies, stick to single
[08:30] <Badm4n> what is the packages name of HTB ?
[08:30] <slashx1896> i prob got single
[08:30] <DivGradCurl> Greets.
[08:30] <slashx1896> vultaire, yeah the avg movie i watch and wanna copie is 2hr
[08:31] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, I have a single layer too... but dual layers are really getting cheap....
[08:31] <rex> Hello, DivGradCurl, your name scares me because it reminds me of Calc III last semseter.
[08:31] <Despen> How do a change keyboard mapping in for a terminal session? I need to change from swedish keyboard layout to US keyboard olayout to get dosbox to work
[08:31] <Kr0ntab> if you have a longer movie.... then you might run into a situation where the rip will not fit on yer 4.7 disc
[08:31] <DivGradCurl> Heh, sorry to hear that Rex.
[08:32] <vultaire> yeah... my 4.7gb discs say 120min on them
[08:32] <slashx1896> The movie im burning rite now is 1hr 35min
[08:32] <aftertaf> vultaire:  hehe thx (i have had a dvd burner for 1 week) ;)
[08:32] <slashx1896> i mean makinbackups for
[08:32] <DivGradCurl> If it makes you feel any better, it only gets worse once you start applying it to Physics.
[08:32] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, but thats ok....   I rip dvd's with dvdbackup.... run dvdshrink with wine... dvdshrink compresses the disc down to 4.7...  and burn the ISO with growisofs....
[08:32] <rex> DivGradCurl: that's next semester... by which I mean in a few days (monday)
[08:32] <DivGradCurl> Which one?
[08:33] <DivGradCurl> If it is E&M, run!
[08:33] <slashx1896> kr0ntab, thats what im gonnab e doing except the howto says with k3b not growisofs
[08:33] <rex> No, just intro physics for engineers or something like that.
[08:33] <Kr0ntab> k3b will do just fine....
[08:33] <slashx1896> i know
[08:33] <aftertaf> Satan:  i know its a pain, but stick with it ;) it's worth it..
[08:33] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, burning a dvd iso is easy though... from command line.....
[08:33] <vultaire> oh, you guys made me think of a good question: are firmware updates a pain to do under Linux?  I'm waiting for my dvd burner to support ritek 16x dvd+r's, and the patches are of course in exe format
[08:34] <DivGradCurl> ...  ahh, Newtonian.  That really sucks.
[08:34] <vultaire> dunno if wine would run them proper or no, sounds kinda risky
[08:34] <aftertaf> vultaire:  the joys of wine ?? ;)
[08:34] <slashx1896> im just using a Lazy DVD backup HOWTO lol
[08:34] <Badm4n> hello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ?
[08:34] <rex> DivGradCurl: I'll let you know in a few weeks ;)
[08:34] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896,   the command is      "sudo growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/image.iso"
[08:35] <kameron> anyone use vlc?
[08:35] <slashx1896> So theres prob no chance of me being finished in 6 hrs? and me sleeping... lol
[08:36] <DivGradCurl> Does anyone know how to boot to a specific partition once in rescue mode? (I believe the term is "boot to a specific kernel", but am not certain)
[08:36] <Zaq_unkwn> hey guys i need some help
[08:36] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, I've burned two movies in the past 2 hours...
[08:36] <Zaq_unkwn> i burnt the ubuntu cd but my cd drive doesnt read it on boot up
[08:36] <slashx1896> its 2:35 and i gotta wake up 8-9 and i need to go to sleep real soon
[08:37] <DivGradCurl> Zaq: I'm very very new to this, but have spent a lot of time trying to figure out booting stuff.
[08:37] <moodog> Morning all.
[08:37] <Kr0ntab> 15-20 mins for the rip...30-40 mins for the burn... 10 minutes for dvdshrink to compress the movie into an ISO...
[08:37] <DivGradCurl> Zaq:  Something called "Smart Boot Manager" can help you boot to a CD device if your BIOS is being a pain.
[08:37] <Zaq_unkwn> heh, surprising the olf cd 5.04 boots fine but fails installation midway
[08:37] <Slaj_R> Question -- Synaptic only shows 2.2.6 as the latest version of lilypond, when I know there's a version 2.6.  What's the best way to upgrade?
[08:37] <slashx1896> rip=backup?
[08:38] <Kr0ntab> uhhh yeah
[08:38] <slashx1896> k
[08:38] <Badm4n> :(
[08:38] <Zaq_unkwn> i will try again later, gotta sleep now
[08:38] <slashx1896> well its at 3.7g rite now
[08:38] <Badm4n> hello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ? need help
[08:38] <Badm4n> !HTB
[08:38] <ubotu> Badm4n: I give up, what is it?
[08:38] <Badm4n> !htb
[08:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Badm4n
[08:38] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me about htb
[08:38] <kameron> what video players have wmv support in linux? seems vlc doesn't do it on linux.
[08:39] <DivGradCurl> Hmmm, anybody know about booting once in Rescue mode?
[08:39] <Kr0ntab> kameron, mplayer and xine.... among others
[08:39] <trappist> !tell kameron about w32codecs
[08:41] <slashx1896> well im gonna go lay down for 20 mins.. if i dont come back i fell asleep lol
[08:41] <Kr0ntab> slashx1896, cool.    peace.
[08:41] <slashx1896> later all,t hanks for all the help
[08:41] <slashx1896> thanks*
[08:41] <Kr0ntab> np
[08:42] <compubomb> is it possible to update 3.1 with ubuntu packages ?
[08:42] <compubomb> such as getting the newest kernel ?
[08:43] <Stork> in linux, can you do command | command2 for both of those commands to be excecuted in order?
[08:43] <compubomb> Stork: no
[08:44] <compubomb> command1; command2; command3
[08:44] <compubomb> that way
[08:44] <compubomb> command | pushes output into another command
[08:44] <compubomb> pipe redirects output
[08:44] <crimsun> if there are dependencies between command1 and command[23] , then you should use && instead.
[08:44] <BlackJudas> Is there an equivalent to packages.debian.org for ubuntu?
[08:44] <crimsun> BlackJudas: p.u.c.
[08:45] <BlackJudas> crimsun, thanks, simple enough :)
[08:45] <aftertaf> compubomb:  3.1 ?
[08:45] <compubomb> aftertaf: yes
[08:46] <aftertaf> 3.1 what... ;)
[08:46] <compubomb> aftertaf: my friend's host only offers 3.1 iso's
[08:46] <compubomb> debian 3.1
[08:46] <pulaski> hello
[08:46] <crimsun> compubomb: you'd need to cross-grade to Breezy, and it's not officially supported, but it's possible.
[08:46] <compubomb> i wanted to know if you can install ubuntu packages or if they have a compatible package repository for debian 3.1
[08:47] <aftertaf> compubomb:  cant really mix them iirc, but crossgrade yeah
[08:47] <aftertaf> compubomb:  or you go to edge and get unstable for those packages, could be risky too
[08:47] <vultaire> question: I've heard there there's stuff available now that has halfway reliable ntfs writing support, does anyone know about this?
[08:48] <aftertaf> vultaire:  captive does that, but whether it's safe 100% is not sure imho
[08:48] <afd_> hi guys! Everytime I start gnome updatedb starts trashing the disks. How can I make this behaviour stop?
[08:49] <ploom> isnt updatedb run by anarchron or smthing?
[08:50] <aftertaf> hi pulaski :)
[08:50] <ploom> i mean, it should run even without gnome
[08:51] <DivGradCurl> Okay, is there a more appropriate room to ask about using rescue mode to boot a previous install?
[08:52] <aftertaf> DivGradCurl:  cant you choose it in grub on boot time ?
[08:52] <triceratops> Does anybody knopw how to have web lookup for online dictionaries like dict.leo.org in dict-applet 2.13.4 as it was in the former versions?
[08:52] <DivGradCurl> No, I need to launch it from the rescue mode using the install CD.
[08:53] <aftertaf> ahhh. what do you neec to do?
[08:53] <DivGradCurl> The overarching goal is a bit complex, but the basic result is dealing with how to boot from a USB device when USB booting (and therefore USB recognition) isn't supported by the BIOS.
[08:54] <DivGradCurl> 'cept having a locally installed Grub doesn't help, because in my experience grub kicks in directly after the BIOS.
[08:54] <DivGradCurl> The idea being that hopefully once rescue mode (via an install cd) has kicked in w/ all its scanning and recognition it can boot just dandy.
[08:54] <UncleD> I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and now my machine freezes on bootup when Loading modules.. any suggestions?
[08:55] <DivGradCurl> It certainly is possible to use rescue mode to log in as root and edit files on the external, so it DOES recognize externals and therefore seems the best avenue of investigation.
[08:55] <pulaski> I've been enjoying ubuntu 5.10 Breezy for a couple of days.  Has anyone here experienced trouble with the pnm2ppa ppd drivers for the HP "winprinters".  My 5.10 knew what my hp722c was and it seemed to have a lot of the foomatic- eries of supporting files but cups is crippled, "for security reasons" and who knows what print manager is doing?
[08:55] <UncleD> How can I force breezy to skip through
[08:55] <UncleD> Loading modules..
[08:55] <UncleD> on bootup so i can remove the ndiswrapper from it
[08:57] <DivGradCurl> So, if I can only learn how to boot into an install once in rescue mode, than I've solved how to boot into USB devices regardless of whether the BIOS has the capability (although it is a mighty tedious solution).
[08:57] <triceratops> UncleD: start breezy in recovery mode.
[08:58] <DivGradCurl> aftertaf: Any ideas how to do that?  Getting to rescue mode is easy, but after that I have no idea what to do.
[08:58] <pulaski> I don't know if the recommended (suggested) pnm2ppa driver was ever successfully installed.  My printer doesn't resopond to jobs in its queque.  How can I tell if the driver is installed correctly?
[08:58] <triceratops> UncleD: Or start from a live-cd. Mount the partition where the config file is sved. Edit the config file. Anfter this reboot the system
[08:58] <aftertaf> DivGradCurl:  no idea ... :/
[08:59] <knoppix> stupid bootloader. how can i install lilo to the mbr, grub simply isn't doing the trick on my mobo.
[08:59] <finnan> #ubuntu
[08:59] <aftertaf> apt-get ;)
[08:59] <aftertaf> kameron:  ^
[08:59] <pulaski> funny knoppix, I just forsake lilo for grub and the grub.conf file is nowhere to be found.
[09:00] <kameron> aftertaf: i can't boot to ubuntu, i'm on knoppix right now.
[09:00] <DivGradCurl> aftertaf:  Any idea where to look?  I've scoured the web for solutions and, if claims can be believed, this issue has been addressed for many other distributions but not for Ubuntu.
[09:00] <triceratops> pulaski: Start update-grub. It should do the job
[09:00] <Amaranth> kameron: chroot
[09:01] <pulaski> thants triceratpos
[09:01] <kameron> Amaranth, chroot what?
[09:01] <Amaranth> kameron: chroot into the ubuntu system, then use apt-get
[09:01] <pulaski> I did get about 42 packages today when I got my sources.list sorted out.
[09:01] <DivGradCurl> aftertaf:  But it can't be that damned impossible to boot into a partition once rescue mode is running.  I mean, you can manipulate files among other abilities.
[09:01] <kameron> how do i do that amaranth?
[09:02] <Ganjhi> Hi, I downloaded the w32 codecs and was wondering how I would go abouts installing them?
[09:02] <Amaranth> !w32codecs
[09:02] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:02] <aftertaf> DivGradCurl:  i agree, but i don't know how to help with that ..... :(
[09:02] <DivGradCurl> The only other way to do it would be to force a bunch of drivers and scans to be done *before* a grub activates, which seems far more complex.
[09:02] <pulaski> oh I see, update-grub alone ... perhaps, thanks triceropts.
[09:03] <Ganjhi> Amaranth Ubuntubot didn't send me anything :(
[09:03] <Ganjhi> nevermind
[09:03] <UncleD> how do I boot up in recovery mode (w/ breezy?)
[09:03] <Amaranth> kameron: chroot /dev/hdX9
[09:03] <DivGradCurl> Heh, okay.  I'll continue to scour Rescue documentation, I guess.
[09:03] <Ganjhi> Well- I actually do have the codecs for Ubuntu
[09:03] <Amaranth> kameron: afaik
[09:03] <Ganjhi> ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w32codecs/
[09:04] <Ganjhi> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[09:04] <UncleD> aha figured it out
[09:04] <UncleD> nm
[09:04] <pulaski> UncleD, my grub bootloader offers that boot to recovery mode option.  Does yours?
[09:04] <UncleD> yea i did the grub thing
[09:04] <UncleD> it worked.
[09:04] <UncleD> Man im having the worst time getting my machine online using ndiswrapper.
[09:04] <UncleD> ;\
[09:04] <finnan> ubuntulog
[09:05] <triceratops> UncleD: If you have a look at the grub menu you will find two lines for every kernel which is installed. The first line is fore regular boot, the second for recovery. Move down to the second line with hte down key and press enter.
[09:05] <LemLapLin> having some trouble getting my wireless working under breezy, can anyone help me?
[09:05] <MrPockets> how hard is it to get a new logon screen?
[09:06] <pulaski> another improvement of grub over lilo
[09:06] <UncleD> triceratops: my recovery mode even froze. it stopped loading after a line that said ,3> ndiswrapper (wrapper_init:1534) loadndiswrapper failed(11); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[09:07] <lostar148> i am trying to get 3d acceleration working i cant figure out the problem here is my xorg.conf  http://home.insightbb.com/~chrisbaird2/xorg.txt and here is my Glxinfo  http://home.insightbb.com/~chrisbaird2/glxinfo.txt
[09:07] <kameron> Amaranth: i tried chroot to /dev/hda1 and /mnt/hda1 where it's mounted, both had erros. when i tried dev/hda1: chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hda1: Not a directory, and /mnt/hda1: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[09:08] <pulaski> thanks for the update-grub tip triceratops
[09:08] <pulaski> good night ...
[09:08] <cyle> hi i'm looking to get involved in ubuntu package managing/bug fixing and don't know where to start or who to talk to
[09:08] <triceratops> MrPockets: Quite easy. 1. Start gdm-config via 'sudo gdm-config'. There you will find a tab which shows available login themes. New themes which haven't been installed can be added via drag'n'drop.
[09:08] <Amaranth> kameron: let me guess: amd64 ubuntu and x86 knoppix
[09:08] <specialbuddy> hello
[09:08] <MrPockets> thank you VERY VERY Much
[09:08] <kameron> amaranth: yes
[09:08] <Amaranth> kameron: you need the amd64 ubuntu live cd
[09:09] <UncleD> triceratops: any idea?
[09:09] <kameron> amaranth: will reboot to it, br
[09:09] <kameron> brb
[09:09] <Amaranth> kameron: or and amd64 live cd
[09:09] <UncleD> heh.. im just going to reinstall ubuntu
[09:09] <UncleD> if i cant get past this ndiswrapper thingy
[09:09] <UncleD> i dont have a livecd handy
[09:09] <UncleD> so reinstalling breezy is faster than downloading livecd.
[09:09] <triceratops> MrPockets: 2. Using dapper there is a application named gnome-art which does the install of various art related things.
[09:09] <MrPockets> triceratops,  "command not found
[09:10] <Ganjhi> I'm having a weird problem, I'm trying to create a folder in usr/local/lib and it says I am not the owner so I can't change the write permissions and cannot create a folder... but I am the owner of this machine :@
[09:10] <triceratops> UncleD: Hhhm. so you will have to boot from a live-cd...
[09:10] <UncleD> Ganjhi: try sudo mkdir
[09:11] <specialbuddy> hey
[09:11] <UncleD> triceratop; im reinstalling ubuntu, fuck it.
[09:11] <UncleD> i cant download a livecd faster then i can reinstlal the o/s
[09:11] <LemLapLin> yeah i'm thinking i might have to do that
[09:11] <triceratops> Mr_Milenko: Pardon me. It should be 'sudo gdmsetup'
[09:11] <MrPockets> triceratops, how do i get this dapper?
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> uhm
[09:11] <triceratops> MrPockets:  Pardon me. It should be 'sudo gdmsetup'
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> huh?
[09:11] <specialbuddy> if I reinstall ubuntu with another monitor hooked up, will it find that monitor?
[09:11] <Mr_Milenko> rofl
[09:12] <MrPockets> aht that did the trick
[09:12] <specialbuddy> anyone?
[09:13] <triceratops> MrPockets: Dapper is the next Ubuntu Version. In the moment it is strongly recommended to be used by very skilled GNU/Linux users. It is in a persistent developing state.
[09:13] <Ganjhi> Another crummy problem with Write permissions, I'm trying to extract some files into the newly created directory, and it says I don't have the write permissions.
[09:13] <DivGradCurl> specialbuddy: I've extremely new, but I'm pretty sure that if you want to test the monitor-finding-abilities of Ubuntu, a Live CD is a good place to start.
[09:13] <LemLapLin> come on someone please help me with my wireless problem
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> What sorts of things about gdm could prevent console switching from working?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> (Configuration or changes, it worked before.)
[09:13] <triceratops> MrPockets: s/to be used/to be used only/
[09:13] <specialbuddy> well I already have it on my computer
[09:14] <specialbuddy> the problem is I want to use another monitor like I can in windows but I don't know how
[09:14] <kameron> amaranth: im back, on amd64 live cd
[09:14] <Amaranth> kameron: ok
[09:14] <Amaranth> kameron: does chroot work now?
[09:14] <Ganjhi> How can I extract a file while getting around the write permissions?
[09:14] <DivGradCurl> specialbuddy:  You mean, like two monitors at once?  If so, I have no clue.  Sorry.
[09:14] <ploom> any ideas how many more flight-discs it will take to really almost-safely just update to dapper (eg change "breezy" to "dapper" in apt.config)??
[09:15] <specialbuddy> yeah that's what I mean
[09:15] <specialbuddy> thanks for the try
[09:15] <NickZA> Hi, can anyone tell me what the port number is to connect to an exchange server with Evolution ?
[09:15] <smo> specialbuddy, I don't think it'll do it automatically.  what video card you using ?
[09:15] <mllr> anyone want free goodies, check out swedal.servebeer.com login: andy  password: andy123
[09:15] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: You may add a line 'Option "DontZap"' under 'Section "ServerFlags"'
[09:16] <mllr> gnu linux stuff.
[09:16] <specialbuddy> well it's on a laptop
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, What?
[09:16] <Kr0ntab> sup tonyyarusso
[09:16] <specialbuddy> so it's like a intel extreme something
[09:16] <hydroksyde> hmmm... 64MB of RAM really isn't enough for desktop linux
[09:16] <LemLapLin> someone please help me i really need to get this wireless working
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, Last ditch attempts to figure out if I can fix some things.
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> Kr0ntab, You?
[09:16] <LemLapLin> this whole install is pointless if i can't
[09:17] <smo> specialbuddy, I've only used nvidia's dualhead support, but what you're looking for is xinerama .. should be some good google-fodder
[09:17] <MrPockets> next Q,  when you hit the LOCK button, is there a way i can get it to go to the logon screen instead of screen saver?
[09:17] <LemLapLin> ubuntu auo detected it and installed the drivers for it but i can't seem to connect to the network
[09:17] <Kr0ntab> half asleep
[09:17] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[09:17] <kameron> amaranth: worked. what do i do now?
[09:17] <smo> (nvidia being a special case because you use their drivers' TwinView stuff rather than X's xinerama support)
[09:17] <NickZA> Hi, can anyone tell me what the port number is to connect to an MS exchange server with Evolution ?
[09:17] <Kr0ntab> port 80
[09:17] <Kr0ntab> NickZA,
[09:18] <specialbuddy> I tried that and messed it up somehow and now I can onlu use X
[09:18] <Kr0ntab> it uses OWA as it's "exchange" protocol communication
[09:18] <NickZA> Kr0ntab, tried that lemme check again
[09:18] <Ganjhi> How do I extract a file and get around the write permissions?
[09:18] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Add  a line 'Option "DontZap"' under 'Section "ServerFlags"' in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[09:19] <hydroksyde> can I set this ubuntu update notification thing to only bug me for security updates?
[09:19] <MrPockets> what was that command again triceratops
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, And what exactly does that do?
[09:19] <MrPockets> nvm
[09:19] <Kr0ntab> NickZA, for your URL... you probably need to specify "http://mailserver.domain.com/exchange"
[09:19] <NickZA> Kr0ntab, got it working now, thanks :)
[09:19] <Kr0ntab> np
[09:20] <kairu0> hey all
[09:20] <Kr0ntab> NickZA, ... you should also think about using SSL (HTTPS)... as yer passwords and mail can be seen in clear text....
[09:21] <Kr0ntab> then you just change yer URL to reflect https....
[09:21] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Prevent the use of Ctrl+alt+Fn1-12 to work
[09:21] <DivGradCurl> Question:  Okay, I've refined, altered, and simplified my question a bit.  I'm at a shell prompt with my desired partition mounted as root.  Now how to I get into the GUI (or whatever it is that I boot into after powering a normal ubuntu computer on and letting it use the default on the grub menu)?
[09:22] <markusis> hello
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, I'm trying to get that TO work.
[09:22] <kairu0> i have a problem with popping noises coming out of my speakers and it only happens when i am using my network card. any ideas?
[09:22] <aftertaf> DivGradCurl:  try startx
[09:23] <LemLapLin> come on someone please help me with my wireless
[09:23] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Ohh, misunderstood your question, pardon me. So is ther such a line in your xorg.conf? If yes put a # in front of it to comment it out.
[09:23] <DivGradCurl> sh-3.00# startx
[09:23] <DivGradCurl> sh: startx: command not found
[09:24] <markusis> what seems to be the problem -lemlaplin
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, No, there is not.
[09:24] <LemLapLin> can't get it to connect to my ap
[09:24] <Ganjhi> How do I extract a file without write permissions??
[09:24] <specialbuddy> how do you start up kde from shell
[09:25] <specialbuddy> ?
[09:25] <LemLapLin> card is built into a toshiba portege 2000 but is orinoco based afaik
[09:25] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Hhm, so what happens if you press Ctrl+Alt#Ff1? Nothing at all?
[09:25] <liable> specialbuddy: startx startkde
[09:25] <markusis> what the hell are you talking about..wala man ko kablo ana
[09:25] <LemLapLin> does the wep key need to be in AA:BB:CC format or just aabbcc?
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Not a thing.  However, if I stop gdm, and just startx from the console without it, it works.
[09:26] <DivGradCurl> aftertaf: Following the external install instructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811) I can even take it into "root@ubuntu:/#".
[09:26] <specialbuddy> I have to say both?
[09:26] <liable> yes
[09:26] <specialbuddy> thanks
[09:26] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Strange indeed. Which Ubuntu Version ar you using?
[09:26] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, from system>administration>network  aabbcc is fine
[09:26] <aftertaf> DivGradCurl:  nice one :)
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Breezy.
[09:26] <DivGradCurl> aftertaf: So, a way from either that mode or the shell mode?
[09:27] <aftertaf> to do the usb boot thing? i dont know...
[09:27] <LemLapLin> ok now i have an even weired problem
[09:27] <LemLapLin> i can't get to the desktop in terminal
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, It worked fine previously in both Hoary and Breezy, but something happened.
[09:27] <polpak> victory is mine!
[09:27] <LemLapLin> when i type desktop it says the location doesn't exist
[09:27] <polpak> LemLapLin: cd ~/Desktop
[09:27] <polpak> LemLapLin: with a capital D
[09:27] <LemLapLin> ah ok
[09:27] <Amaranth> kameron: dunno if you figured it out yet, but in the chroot you can use apt-get
[09:27] <LemLapLin> thanks
[09:27] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Did it work before on this particulare machine?
[09:28] <timfrost> Ganjhi, run the extract command using sudo: (eg: sudo tar xvf file.tar' ).  Why don't you have write permissions?
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Yes.
[09:28] <Badm4n-AFK> hello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ? need help
[09:28] <aftertaf> what is HTB ?
[09:28] <kameron> amaranth: yes, i did that, and ran liloconfig, and got an error.. wasn't sure if it wrote or not. then i rebooted to see if i could boot, and grub was still installed, and for some reason let me boot, so i'm back on ubuntu, but i'd like to switch over to lilo, running liloconfig again.
[09:28] <DivGradCurl> aftertaf: Well, at that point it is already pretending that it is root on the proper usb partition.  That's the beauty behind DaBruGo's suggestion to use Rescue mode, which as far as I can tell just scans the hell out of things and then let's you pick a partition as root followed by opening a shell.
[09:28] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Did you change the login manager? May be from gdm to kdm and back before?
[09:28] <Ganjhi> Because I'm using two NTSF hd's and I have a 7GB partition for Ubuntu
[09:28] <arrik> so, i tried to install java, made the symbolic links in the correct directories, but java still won't work.  and yes, it's enabled in the browser, any ideas?
[09:29] <kameron> amaranth: chroot is a cool command, i've never used it before, but it changes your $PATH and everything, very handy.
[09:29] <polpak> kameron: is there a reason you want to use lilo and not grub?
[09:29] <DivGradCurl> aftertaf:  But beyond following his instruction's, I'm at a loss for how to make Ubuntu behave normally.
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Nope.
[09:29] <Ganjhi> For some reason when I download the archive, it doesn't even show up anymore, just says it's downloaded in half a second flat...
[09:29] <Badm4n-AFK> hello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ( Hierachical Token Bucket ) ? need help
[09:29] <LemLapLin> so can anyone help me with this wireless problem?
[09:29] <Badm4n-AFK> like a cbq
[09:29] <kameron> polpak: ive had many other distros installed on this amd64, and lilo always worked great. grub mostly drops me into that minimal bash shell, and i don't know how to use it. it's like 1 in 10 i get the boot menu, and i don't know why.
[09:29] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Any update of gdm in the past?
[09:29] <LemLapLin> I know it works under windows so it's not a hardware problem
[09:30] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, from system>administration>network  aabbcc is fine
[09:30] <LemLapLin> is it going to matter that i have the card disabled under windows?
[09:30] <blue-frog> no
[09:30] <kameron> polpak: it doesn't like my board or something. my friend has amd64, nearly identical system, except different mobo, and grub works fine for me.
[09:30] <kameron> polpak: for him, i mean.
[09:30] <LemLapLin> ok
[09:30] <LemLapLin> well i have it all set up as it should be
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, If something new appeared in the repos and that was done automatically, then yes, but I haven't done so intentionally.
[09:30] <arrik> Anyone know how to get java working in firefox 1.5?
[09:30] <LemLapLin> so anything i can do to check if it's working locally?
[09:31] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, did u activate it?
[09:31] <MrPockets> hey triceratops, what about splash screens?
[09:31] <Ganjhi> TimFrost; where does it extract the files to with that command?
[09:31] <LemLapLin> yeah i did
[09:31] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, what's its IP
[09:31] <Ganjhi> AH, just home folder, okay.
[09:31] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Did you change your keyboard settings from the menu: System -> Settings -> Keyboard?
[09:32] <LemLapLin> it's not getting one
[09:32] <LemLapLin> it should be dhcp
[09:32] <timfrost> Ganjhi, where are you trying to write to?  The NTFS partitions will be read-only from Ubuntu, because there isn't a guaranteed NTFS filesystem driver for Linux (MS proprieatary;(
[09:32] <LemLapLin> ap does dhcp
[09:32] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, is your access point dhcp?
[09:32] <LemLapLin> and the ap says it's not connected
[09:32] <LemLapLin> yes
[09:32] <Badm4n-AFK> hello ... any1 know about the packaged of HTB ( Hierachical Token Bucket ) like a cbq ? need help urgent
[09:32] <kameron> polpak, amaranth, seems that lilo was correctly installed this time, i'll reboot and see if all is good. but with my luck, i'll probably be back on live cd trying to figure out why it didn't work :P
[09:32] <triceratops> MrPockets: How to instell new ones?
[09:32] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, starting my laptop
[09:33] <polpak> I can't believe I got it working
[09:33] <MrPockets> yes
[09:33] <MrPockets> its just a matter of placing a jpg somewhere, isnt it?
[09:33] <timfrost> Ganjhi, the tar command wil extract under the cuurent directory, unless the archive has file names that start with '/'.  Check that with 'tar tvf file.tar'
[09:33] <arrik> Anyone know how to get java working in firefox 1.5?
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, I did once, but then put them back.  Can you explain how that could impact this?  (btw, I know the keys are registering, because I can set Ctrl-Alt-F# as a shortcut in the System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts)
[09:34] <Amaranth> arrik: the same way you do for firefox 1.0.x
[09:34] <triceratops> MrPockets: Have a look at http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[09:34] <arrik> Amaranth: yea, i went through all the install steps, made the links in the right directories but it's still not working for some reason
[09:35] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, open syste,>administration>network
[09:35] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Not exactly, sorry. But changing login managers tend to show weird behaviours from time to time
[09:36] <mllr> swedal.servebeer.com l: andy p: andy123
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Ah.  Well, brainstorming possibilities is always good.
[09:36] <LemLapLin> done
[09:36] <LemLapLin> what now?
[09:36] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: May be it will help to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm' and switch again to kdm and back to gdm..
[09:37] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, in connection tab what do u have?
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, I don't have kdm...  (I've also already tried the dpkg-reconfigure, it gave some error which I don't remember.)
[09:37] <fek> could anybody tell me, how i could downgrade xorg with their xorg-drivers?
[09:37] <LemLapLin> wireless eth1
[09:37] <LemLapLin> wired eth0
[09:37] <LemLapLin> and pppo for modem
[09:37] <LemLapLin> ppp0 even
[09:38] <blue-frog> eth1 is active correct?
[09:38] <kameron> errr
[09:38] <LemLapLin> no eth0 is
[09:38] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Also a /etc/init.d/gdm restart' may hekp. But for this you need a console working, what isn't in your case...
[09:38] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, is eth1 inactive then?
[09:38] <LemLapLin> sorry eth1 is active
[09:38] <LemLapLin> but eth0 is default gateway
[09:38] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, ok click on it and click properties
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, I can however stop it with that, and then restart, but that doesn't help.
[09:39] <LemLapLin> done
[09:39] <veritas> Guys.
[09:39] <veritas> How do I run a pearl script
[09:39] <fek> how do i downgrade special packages from breezy to hoary?
[09:39] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Could you login via ssh from an other machine? You will be able to do a 'etc/init.d/gdm restart'from there
[09:39] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, eth1 enable connection is checked, in network name essid what do u have?
[09:40] <NickZA> silly question, evolution doesnt seem to have a way to set a default signature forcing you to always select one from the drop down, any way to set a default ?
[09:40] <LemLapLin> is enabled
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Not with where the computer is right now, but some other time I could.
[09:40] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: Tried a 'Ctrl+Alt+BS' when gdm is up?
[09:40] <LemLapLin> and the ssid is the same as what is set on the ap
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, BS?
[09:40] <timfrost> veritas, 'perl script.pl' if script.pl is the script name
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Oh, backspace.
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Yeah, I've done that.
[09:40] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, wep has stars for the password?
[09:40] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: BS = BackSpace Key
[09:40] <LemLapLin> indeed it does
[09:40] <veritas> thanks timfrost
[09:41] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, configuration choose static
[09:41] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, assign it an IP in IP address
[09:41] <LemLapLin> done
[09:41] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, click ok to go back to connection tab
[09:42] <Toma-> anyone tried ubuntu lite before?
[09:42] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: A brute force way would be 'apt-get -purge remove gdm' and 'apt-get install gdm' afterwards
[09:42] <NickZA> silly question, evolution doesnt seem to have a way to set a default signature forcing you to always select one from the drop down, any way to set a default ?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> triceratops, Okay, will try that.
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Later.
[09:43] <fek> when i use this howto. i'll get this message: E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[09:43] <triceratops> tonyyarusso: :-)
[09:43] <fek> i did it exactly like in that howto
[09:43] <kameron> amaranth: having troubles installing lilo.
[09:44] <Amaranth> kameron: i've never done it, sorry
[09:44] <tristan> hi
[09:44] <kameron> amaranth: okay, thanks
[09:44] <Amaranth> when debian had lilo i was getting grub installed :P
[09:44] <kameron> anyone installed lilo on ubuntu before?
[09:44] <tristan> Anyone knows of a program that can join videos?
[09:44] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, deactivate wired connection and make sure wifi is activated and click ok
[09:44] <tristan> kameron : no sorry I have GRUB
[09:44] <raghu> !lilo
[09:44] <ubotu> raghu: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:45] <fek> hello?!
[09:45] <timfrost> fek, what howto? what are you trying to do?
[09:46] <Kiwi___> Does gksu work on ubuntu ? or only gnome-sudo
[09:46] <fek> timfrost: my xorg is b0rken, because i did last day an upgrade to breezy and i'll want to downgrade tie i810-driver to the old one...
[09:46] <rikai-2> anyone know a decent temp for how hot an amp athlon should run?
[09:46] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, is your wifi working with a static address?
[09:47] <timfrost> !pin
[09:47] <ubotu> timfrost: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:47] <rikai> *amd
[09:48] <LemLapLin> subnetmask is 255.255.255.0
[09:48] <LemLapLin> gateway is the modem
[09:48] <LemLapLin> seems to have connected now
[09:48] <LemLapLin> actually cancel that
[09:48] <KeeganX> .
[09:48] <LemLapLin> won't ping the touter
[09:48] <LemLapLin> router
[09:48] <Kiwi___> Does gksu work on ubuntu ? or only gnome-sudo?
[09:48] <timfrost> fek, what HOWTO?
[09:48] <fek> !pinning
[09:48] <ubotu> [pinning]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[09:48] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, gateway is the router not the modem
[09:48] <fek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DowngradeHowto?highlight=%28downgrade%29
[09:48] <fek> this one
[09:48] <fek> !downgrade
[09:48] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, fek
[09:48] <LemLapLin> modem is the router here
[09:49] <LemLapLin> having the wireless and wired activated at the same time killed the network
[09:49] <darkritual> houston
[09:49] <darkritual> we have a prolem
[09:49] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, deactivate wired connection and make sure wifi is activated and click ok
[09:49] <LemLapLin> will disable the wired and then put the wireless on and try it again
[09:49] <LemLapLin> yeah i will
[09:49] <LemLapLin> i do kinda need the wireless to work with DHCP though
[09:50] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, make sure sure it works with static, then u can have a look at dhcp
[09:50] <LemLapLin> ok one sec
[09:52] <kameron> bah. im going to go on my other linux box, copy the lilo.conf, and apply it on this comp.
[09:52] <timfrost> fek,  yur inuitial comment indicates that you didn't write the pin correctly.
[09:52] <Kiwi___> last time ,, Does gksu work on ubuntu ? or only gnome-sudo
[09:53] <blue-frog> Kibou, gksudo
[09:53] <blue-frog> Kiwi___, gksudo
[09:53] <tristan> Anyone knows of a program that can join videos?
[09:53] <fek> timfrost: i copied&pasted it from the howto!
[09:53] <gandalf_the_whit> hello all
[09:53] <Kiwi___> blue=frog: gksuo wont work at all?
[09:54] <Kiwi___> blue-frog
[09:54] <blue-frog> Kiwi___, i don't know u tell me
[09:54] <aftertaf> tristan:  get mplayer and mencoder
[09:54] <darkritual> Some one knows howto mount hdb/mp3 to /home/darkritual/mp3?'
[09:54] <gandalf_the_whit> tristian do a "cat 1.mpg 2.mpg 3.mpg > the_new.mpg
[09:54] <polpak> Kiwi___: gksudo works normally
[09:54] <gandalf_the_whit> this works for mpg files
[09:54] <timfrost> Kiwi___, gksudo is available (gksu won't work, because there isn't a root password by default on ubuntu)
[09:54] <aftertaf> and look for other avi tools in synaptic, there is avimerge which ive used ok.
[09:54] <LemLapLin> is it working
[09:54] <blue-frog> Kiwi___, as root passwd is disabled gksu can't work
[09:54] <tristan> gandalf_the_whit : would it work for rmvb files.....?
[09:54] <LemLapLin> blue-frog, it didn't work
[09:55] <LemLapLin> it says destination host unreachable
[09:55] <Kiwi___> cheers guys
[09:55] <UncleD> I have two pentium 4 processors in my machine - how can i make sure breezy detected both of them?
[09:55] <polpak> UncleD: uname -a, does it say SMP >
[09:55] <gandalf_the_whit> UncleD, use the SMP version of any Iinux
[09:56] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, what is the IP of your ethernet eth0? what is the IP of eth1?
[09:56] <LemLapLin> eth0 is on dhcp
[09:56] <Toma-> anyone know any light-weight dm's?
[09:56] <LemLapLin> eth1 was 10.0.0.2
[09:56] <polpak> Toma-: WM's?
[09:56] <Toma-> dm's.
[09:56] <LemLapLin> eth0 has 10.0.0.1 atm
[09:56] <Toma-> like, gdm or kdm or wdm
[09:56] <gandalf_the_whit> tristin, dont know, but maybe a rmvb to mpg conversion , then join the files
[09:56] <Toma-> i saw someone talking about another one the other day
[09:57] <LemLapLin> would it matter at all that i normally have this card disabled in windows?
[09:57] <polpak> Toma-: isn't there an xdm?
[09:57] <Toma-> yeh, but it sux :)
[09:57] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, subnetmask should be 255.0.0.0
[09:57] <timfrost> fek, I can't help, as I have a pure breey setup, and don't have any pins active.   BTW, the DowngradeHowto seems to be a work-in-rogress
[09:57] <polpak> Toma-: I think you're just being picky now =p
[09:57] <Toma-> yep.
[09:57] <fek> damn. wtf!
[09:57] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, u're under linux so don't care about windows
[09:57] <fek> i just did a dist-upgrade and now i could through my system away
[09:57] <fek> can't believe
[09:58] <fek> long time ago it was with debian a worst thing, but with ubunut again?
[09:58] <fek> i am fed up!
[09:58] <veritas>  Question
[09:58] <veritas> When I'm setting the SSID in terminal
[09:58] <gandalf_the_whit> I have one question. I want to install the LTSP. According to the website, installing edubuntu will get LTSP working OOTB. How hard is it to upgrade to regular ubuntu from edubuntu,
[09:58] <LemLapLin> ok will try that in a sec blue-frog
[09:58] <LemLapLin> trying to configure opera atm
[09:58] <veritas> iwconfig eth0 essid "name"
[09:58] <veritas> For instance
[09:59] <liable> fek: could you try that again in english?
[09:59] <pulaski> hello
[09:59] <blue-frog> gandalf_the_whit, apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[09:59] <lillpelle> veritas: it is easier to follow your question if you type it all at once...
[09:59] <fek> liable: what?
[09:59] <veritas> Sorry. I'm getting carried away wit myself
[09:59] <liable> fek: nm
[09:59] <pulaski> has any one had the experience of trading out one window manager for another?. eg apt-get remove gnome ... apt-get install kde
[10:00] <fek> liable: i am just annoyed about this shit...
[10:00] <veritas> If I were to connect to a network named "The Internets", what would be the command following iwconfig eth0 essid <essid_name>
[10:00] <polpak> pulaski: you can have them both installed, or one , or the other
[10:01] <pulaski> polpak you mean simply choose between one or the other in /etc/X11/xinit/ ?
[10:01] <blue-frog> veritas, use system>adminstration>network it'll be easier
[10:01] <veritas> I don't want to use that.
[10:01] <pulaski> or something like that? polpak
[10:01] <veritas> I obviously did to get here... But I'd rather not in the future
[10:01] <ilba7r> is there a synonum to the red hat sar command in ubuntu?
[10:02] <gandalf_the_whit> blue-frog, tried that, already had ubuntu installed for 3 months, and working great, the edubuntu thing just confused me more as for as administering. then I installed edubuntu, but wanted back ubuntu. then I really messed up. I installed Fedora. now I want to get back to ubuntu, but REALLY NEED LTSP
[10:02] <blue-frog> veritas man iwconfig
[10:02] <fek> how do i downgrade just some special packages?
[10:02] <drviju> how to mount floopy drive
[10:02] <veritas> I know the command.
[10:02] <veritas> I just don't know how to connect to an ESSID that has a space in the name
[10:02] <ilba7r> fek force version either in apt or synaptic
[10:03] <blue-frog> gandalf_the_whit, can't see what was more confusing in edubuntu then in K12ltsp.
[10:03] <gandalf_the_whit> blue-frog,, how well does the apt-get ubuntu work on edubuntu
[10:03] <fek> ilba7r: but it seems. that hoary has got the same version of xserver-xorg*?
[10:03] <veritas> Would it just be... iwconfig eth0 essid "The Internets"
[10:04] <timfrost> ilba7r, Package: atsar: Description: system activity reporter
[10:04] <polpak> pulaski: if you have them both installed you can choose when you log in which one you want to use
[10:04] <ilba7r> thanx timfrost
[10:04] <gandalf_the_whit> the ONLY thing that I liked about K12LTPS was the fact that it worked OOTB. but I HATE yum, and sympatic didnt work at all.
[10:04] <polpak> pulaski: under the "session" menu at the login prompt
[10:04] <polpak> pulaski: so each user can select their own DE
[10:05] <ilba7r> fek, i was just answering your question about downgrading the installed vers of some packages i have no idea about xserver version
[10:05] <fek> perfect
[10:05] <pulaski> polpak I see yes I'm familiar with that option.  I'll have to make myself more familiar with it :)
[10:05] <blue-frog> gandalf_the_whit, basically edubuntu and ubuntu are the same except for ltsp so what was wrong with edubuntu?
[10:06] <LemLapLin> blue-frog, I ran iwconfig and it's getting a signal but i still get no route to host when i try to ping the router
[10:06] <sagarp> man..my system keeps randomly locking up when some process hogs the CPU, and my hd light starts flickering really fast...i'm forced to reboot..how can i determine the process after rebooting??
[10:06] <pulaski> thanks polpak, g'night
[10:06] <polpak> LemLapLin: type route and pastebin the output pls
[10:06] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, sry then can't help u must be a silly something ini your config somewhere..
[10:07] <gandalf_the_whit> blue-frog, I didnt know how to get the full blown version of ubuntu back, was it as easy as an apt-get ubuntu-desktop, or does that exist for edubuntu. if it does, I could have saved myself a LOT of headpounding
[10:07] <LemLapLin> 10.0.0.0        *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[10:07] <grayman_> hey
[10:07] <polpak> LemLapLin: is eth0 your wireless card or your ethernet?
[10:07] <grayman_> how do i enable a sequancer with alsa?
[10:08] <LemLapLin> ethernet
[10:08] <LemLapLin> i can't get on here with the wireless atm
[10:08] <blue-frog> gandalf_the_whit, just told u edubuntu and ubuntu are the same so i doon't see the point of installing ubuntu-desktop when using edubuntu
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> Here's the error that both dpkg-reconfigure gdm and apt-get --purge install --reinstall gdm give me: "invoke-rc.d: initscript gdm, action "reload" failed."  What does that mean?
[10:09] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, should be eth1 not eth0
[10:09] <LemLapLin> there is no entry for eth1 atm
[10:09] <drviju> how to mount floopy  drive
[10:09] <LemLapLin> but the wireless card is inactive
[10:09] <blue-frog> LemLapLin, oh ok on ethernet now...
[10:09] <LemLapLin> yeah
[10:09] <LemLapLin> i can't get on here with wifi
[10:10] <LemLapLin> every time i try and do something with the wireless it says no route to host
[10:11] <gandalf_the_whit> so all of the software in ubuntu is available for edubuntu,, seems I couldnt get it to work right, but will try again.
[10:11] <gandalf_the_whit> thanks
[10:11] <blue-frog> gandalf_the_whit, all software runs the same
[10:12] <Friar> !sh
[10:12] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Friar
[10:12] <Friar> !.sh
[10:12] <ubotu> Friar: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:12] <blue-frog> gandalf_the_whit, what software was giving u hard time?
[10:12] <Friar> how do i run a .sh?
[10:12] <Friar> from terminal
[10:12] <blue-frog> Friar, sh file.sh
[10:12] <ilba7r> friar sh filename.sh
[10:13] <Friar> thanks
[10:13] <engin> hello
[10:13] <engin> ! how can I use nautilus default window manager on xfce, ubuntu?
[10:13] <ubotu> engin: I give up, what is it?
[10:13] <engin> nautilus
[10:13] <ilba7r> engin do you mean nautilus --browser --no-desktop
[10:14] <engin> browser
[10:14] <engin> ok
[10:14] <ilba7r> engin i know that the default is browser
[10:14] <engin> i want to default browser
[10:14] <engin> sory
[10:15] <engin> how can do ti
[10:15] <engin> it
[10:15] <LemLapLin> okay i just checked my router and apparently the "client" does not support the authentication method it uses
[10:16] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, try network manager
[10:16] <LemLapLin> 2006-01-06 17:18:58 E |Wireless             |Station MAC 00:02:2D:59:C6:DB - association failed - responding station does not support the specified authentication algorithm
[10:16] <ilba7r> !network manager
[10:16] <ubotu> Wish i knew, ilba7r
[10:16] <LemLapLin> i have many times ilba7r
[10:16] <ilba7r> !networkmanager
[10:16] <ubotu> networkmanager is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[10:16] <ilba7r> engin tell me in more detail your prob how do you start nautilus in xfce
[10:17] <engin> i had ubuntu and gnome but now i install xfce on it
[10:17] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, this is a package that you need to install and start do you have it. It makes connection an efforless job and support 128 encryp
[10:17] <ilba7r> engin do you have .xfce in your home dir
[10:18] <ilba7r> sorry engin i do not run xfce now but i had it set before
[10:18] <engin> yes
[10:18] <ilba7r> ok open it
[10:19] <engin> now i am using xfce
[10:19] <ilba7r> ther should be a menu file that will show you what command is used to start nautilus
[10:19] <engin> i dont know
[10:19] <ilba7r> from a terminal you should type nautilus --browser --no-desktop
[10:20] <ilba7r> do you see your icons too
[10:20] <engin> yes when type natulius it si running
[10:20] <TranceRiver> Has anyone had good luck with edimax rt2500 chipset?
[10:20] <ilba7r> this is the command you need in your menu. if you can edit the menu than that is it
[10:21] <engin> where can i do it
[10:21] <engin> i dont know sorry
[10:21] <ilba7r> you have to look where the xfce menu is most probably in the .xfce directory
[10:21] <engin> ok
[10:22] <ilba7r> in nautilus select show hidden files
[10:22] <alainlucas> What to do so that when people try to get connected to my website at the address xx.xx.xx.xx, they are automatically redirected to a sub-directory ?
[10:22] <ilba7r> go to .xfce and most of the time the file name is menu
[10:22] <LemLapLin> ok ilba7r  i get area's about unable to unlock a directory
[10:22] <LemLapLin> Fetched 379B in 12s (31B/s)
[10:22] <LemLapLin> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:22] <LemLapLin> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:23] <LemLapLin> errors even
[10:23] <LemLapLin> soo tired atm my typings just shit
[10:23] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, you hould use the pastebin for pasting error messages
[10:23] <LemLapLin> ???
[10:23] <LemLapLin> wtf is that?
[10:23] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, did you use sudo apt-get install networkmanager
[10:23] <ilba7r> or did you use synaptic
[10:24] <ilba7r> !pastebin
[10:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:24] <LemLapLin> ah ok
[10:24] <engin> is it in usr/share/xfce4
[10:24] <engin> ilba7r
[10:25] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, its sudo apt-get install network-manager
[10:25] <LemLapLin> i followed the wiki and added the universe source and then did sudo apt-get update and it gave me those errors
[10:25] <WebLOCH> Hey guys thought I was above this level but apparently I still suck.  I've installed gstreamer plugins, totem-xine, mplayer and w32codecs but AVIs still wont play, its unrecognised or crashes the player.  Any advice?
[10:26] <ilba7r> engin try copying the menu file to your .xfce directory and after that edit it
[10:26] <WebLOCH> Bah my bad.... Its only one set of AVIs
[10:26] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, what is the url of the pastebin so i can read the error you had
[10:27] <fek> what is the actuall version of xserver-xorg and the i810-driver in hoary?
[10:28] <LemLapLin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6680
[10:29] <ilba7r> fek i have a link from distrowatch but do not know if this is official here it is anyway http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu scroll to the bottom of the page
[10:29] <ilba7r> !packages
[10:29] <ubotu> You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <fek> ilba7r: thanks
[10:29] <ilba7r> fek better follow ubotu link
[10:30] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, mm did you use ^ c to cancell an update
[10:30] <LemLapLin> nope
[10:31] <fek> roflmao
[10:31] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, seems the file is locked some how do not think it is because you have synaptic open
[10:31] <LemLapLin> oops
[10:31] <LemLapLin> synaptic was open :-D
[10:31] <darkritual> my sound blaster live value card gives no sound any solutions?
[10:31] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, that is the application that has the lock so use either synaptic or the apt-get in the terminal whatever you are comfrotable with
[10:32] <LemLapLin> ok
[10:32] <LemLapLin> i had synaptic open cause the wiki entry said i had to add the universe source before doing this
[10:32] <beardy> When Apache is installed, and no content has been placed in /var/www (or where Ubuntu wants it) Ubuntu's Apache 2.0.54's default page has this on it "This is a placeholder page installed by the Debian release of the apache Web server package." and it links to http://www.debian.org. That should be changed. I could not file a bug, since the Ubuntu bugzilla reguires login, and I didn't find somewhere to mail to, perhaps there is though?
[10:32] <LemLapLin> just did it with synaptic closed
[10:32] <LemLapLin> went through without a problem
[10:33] <ilba7r> LemLapLin, enjoy it switching between wirless nets and to a wired one will be a breeze
[10:33] <LemLapLin> i rarely if ever use a wired network on this thing
[10:33] <LemLapLin> 99.9% of the time i'm on wireless
[10:34] <LemLapLin> kewl it worked
[10:34] <LemLapLin> got the package installed
[10:34] <beardy> sorry, "requires" isntead of "reguires"..
[10:34] <Jhair> beardy, $ apt-cache show apache | grep Bugs
[10:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with a printer problem ?
[10:35] <Jhair> Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[10:35] <beardy> I don't run Ubuntu.
[10:35] <beardy> Jhair: Thanks.
[10:35] <snk00sj> hi, does anyone know howto add a new menubar to a panel (not based on the current menu bars ?)
[10:35] <ilba7r> jahir should you put that to ubotu too
[10:35] <ilba7r> !bug
[10:35] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[10:37] <fek> wtf
[10:37] <fek> root@jammin:~ # apt-get -t hoary install xserver-xorg-driver-i810
[10:37] <fek> that installs the breezy packages, why?!
[10:37] <pewp> how can i enable selinux's stack randomization on ubuntu?
[10:38] <Jhair> ilba7r,  I don't know what you mean, what I know is that the fact Ubuntu has two different and incompatible bug report systems (bugzilla, launchpad) is a disease :(
[10:38] <ilba7r> fek can you skip cursing. and you installed the latest ver. you need to force the hoaray package
[10:39] <fek> how?
[10:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with a printer problem ?
[10:39] <ilba7r> jhair i thought you know how to teach ubotu the boot the mailing list. I am afraid i do not know how to do so
[10:39] <beardy> CanYouHelpMePlz: Just asking the question is usually the best way to get help faster.
[10:39] <Jhair> ilba7r, oh I see, I think that can be done only by channels operators or something
[10:40] <ilba7r> fek if you use synaptic select the package that you want than in the package menu select force version. then pick the version you want installed
[10:40] <fek> with aptitude?
[10:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> beardy: i can print test pages fine, and i can scan things but if i try to print a document with a word processor, it comes out blank or unreadable.
[10:40] <ilba7r> fek you have to man aptitude to do it
[10:40] <fek> k
[10:41] <ilba7r> but why you have the breezy reops if you do not want to use them? use the hoary repos then
[10:41] <ilba7r> Jhair, ok :)
[10:41] <darkritual> fear of the dark!
[10:44] <veritas> What nmap parameter do I use to scan a router IP for all available machines on the network?
[10:45] <kameron> i'm trying to mount a removable usb thumb drive.
[10:45] <kameron> anyone done that before?
[10:45] <beardy> CanYouHelpMePlz: I just came here asking a question myself, and I don't run Ubuntu, so I'm afraid I don't have any good answer for you. However, do you run cups? With which wordprocessor are you printing? Can you print using something else, like an editor? Answer to the whole channel.
[10:46] <beardy> kameron: What filesystem does the drive have?
[10:46] <gerald-volt> where is a place I can write a bunch of text
[10:46] <kameron> beardy: no idea. what fs do they usually have?
[10:46] <gerald-volt> and link to it
[10:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i searched the forums for my printer model, and apparently i needed some extra libraries so i think it might work now
[10:46] <LemLapLin> woot
[10:46] <LemLapLin> go me
[10:46] <LemLapLin> thanks for the help
[10:46] <beardy> kameron: It depends on what it is, an USB-stick? Cameras usually have FAT16.
[10:47] <kameron> beardy: it's a run of the mill usb flash/thumb drive.. by sandisk.
[10:47] <beardy> kameron: Anyway, do you know it's devicename?
[10:47] <ompaul> or fat 12
[10:47] <kameron> beardy: no. in mandrake, it's /dev/sda1
[10:48] <gerald-volt> where is  a place I can paste a bunch of text, and link to it?
[10:48] <beardy> kameron: Have you plugged it in? If not, plug it in and run 'dmesg' and see if it lists it.
[10:48] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, is it only scanned objects that do not print well from that application?
[10:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: i havent tried to print a scanned object, simply documents but the test page prints perfectly
[10:49] <mixandgo> can I find emacs related packages in ubuntu ?
[10:49] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, what application did you try to print wiht?
[10:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: OO and abiword
[10:49] <ompaul> mixandgo, lots of them :-) >>sudo apt-cache search emacs <<will give you the list
[10:49] <kameron> beardy: it's plugged in, the output of dmesg was massive.
[10:50] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, what printer is it?
[10:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: hp psc 1610
[10:50] <beardy> kameron: It should be at the bottom if you just plugged it in, take it out and put it back in, and run it again.
[10:51] <veritas> What nmap parameter do I use to scan a router IP for all available machines on the network?
[10:51] <beardy> veritas: The manual page is a good start.
[10:51] <kameron> beardy: http://pastebin.com/493060
[10:51] <gerald-volt> I'm trying to configure my logitechmx1000 mouse, but i can't get x to bootup because the x11.conf is messtged
[10:51] <gerald-volt> http://pastebin.com/493059
[10:51] <gerald-volt> that's my /proc/bus/input/devices and my xorg.conf
[10:52] <mixandgo> thanks ompaul
[10:52] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, try this >>system - administration - printing<<
[10:52] <veritas> man nmap
[10:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: yes i've been their..
[10:52] <fek>   aalib1 acpi-support adept airsnort akode akregator amarok amarok-arts appres ark arts artsbuilder audacity beforelight bitmap blt bluez-pin dcoprss dia dia-common
[10:52] <fek>   kde-i18n-de kde-style-lipstik kde-systemsettings kdeadmin kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdebluetooth kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
[10:52] <fek>   dillo editres ethereal evolution-data-server firefox foomatic-db-gimp-print foomatic-db-hpijs freeglut3 fstobdf gconf2 gftp gftp-gtk gnome-keyring gs-common
[10:52] <fek>   gs-esp gstreamer0.8-misc gstreamer0.8-sdl gstreamer0.8-vorbis gstreamer0.8-x gtk2-engines-gtk-qt gtkglarea5 gtkhtml3.6 gwenview hpijs iceauth ico ijsgimpprint
[10:52] <ompaul> !paste
[10:52] <fek>   imagemagick imlib1 juk k3b k3blibs kaboodle kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm katapult kate kaudiocreator kcalc kcharselect kcontrol kcron kdat kde-guidance
[10:52] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:52] <spliff> on the off chance.. has anyone managed to get kismet going with a dlink dwl-g650.. source= ? :)
[10:52] <fek>   kdelibs-bin kdelibs4c2 kdemultimedia kdemultimedia-kappfinder-data kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing
[10:52] <fek>   kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdm kedit kfind kfloppy kgamma kghostview khelpcenter kicker kio-apt
[10:52] <fek>   kio-locate kismet kivio klaptopdaemon klipper kmail kmenuedit kmid kmilo kmix kmldonkey kmrml knetworkconf knotes koffice-data koffice-libs kolourpaint
[10:52] <ompaul> fek, STOP
[10:52] <fek>   konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konserve konsole kontact konversation kooka kopete korganizer kpackage kpager kpdf kpersonalizer kpf kphone kppp krdc
[10:53] <fek>   krec kregexpeditor krfb kscd kscreensaver ksim ksmserver ksnapshot ksplash ksvg ksysguard ksystemlog ksysv kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-docs
[10:53] <ompaul> fek, PRESS CTRL + C
[10:53] <fek>   kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kuickshow kuser kwalletmanager kweather kwifimanager kwin kynaptic libaa1 libarts1-audiofile libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libarts1c2
[10:53] <fek>   libaudio-dev libaudio2 libbonoboui2-0 libcairo1 libcairo2 libcamel1.2-3 libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libdmx-dev libdmx1 libdps1 libebook1.2-3 libecal1.2-2 libecal1.2-3
[10:53] <fek>   libedata-book1.2-2 libedata-cal1.2-1 libedataserver1.2-4 libedataserverui1.2-4 libegroupwise1.2-5 libgail-common libgail17 libgal2.4-0 libgal2.4-common
[10:53] <fek>   l
[10:53] <fek> arghs
[10:53] <liable> spliff: does kismet support it for starters?
[10:53] <fek> sorry!
[10:53] <fek> sorry! :/
[10:53] <fek> sorry!!!
[10:53] <fek> was my fault!
[10:53] <ompaul> fek, shhhhhhhh
[10:53] <fek> ompaul: was to late :/
[10:53] <ompaul> fek, say nothing for a little while
[10:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: it wont work :-(
[10:54] <beardy> kameron: It says sda, so it probablyis /dev/sda1 as you said earlier. If you don't know the filesystem, mount should be able to find it out automatically, just run 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/test' (or where you want to mount it, create the mountpoint if doesn't exist first.) More info about mount in it's manpage.
[10:55] <yanis> where is the mplayer in the ubuntu 5.10 universe???
[10:56] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, try the psc 1600 or the next one up
[10:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: i am using the psc 1600
[10:57] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, check the choosen printer in your application that it is pointing to the choosen one
[10:57] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, iirc it will say default
[10:57] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, needs to be changed
[10:57] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: it says hp-psc-1600
[10:58] <squirrelpimp> hi
[10:58] <kameron> beardy: i tried sda1, sda, and usb, they all didn't work. listing /dev shows me there is no /sda1
[10:58] <snowblink> Hi - does anyone know what version of ruby is packaged with Dapper?
[10:58] <squirrelpimp> i'm looking for a X11 countdown clock to time my pasta i am about to cook:-) any ideas despite the gnome applett?
[10:59] <snowblink> squirrelpimp, I used to use tea timer - back when I used SuSE + KDE...
[11:00] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, just checking we are on the same page here I turned over the the OO application - I don't think so somehow
[11:00] <snowblink> squirrelpimp, apt-cache search timer
[11:00] <beardy> kameron: Hmm, might be this long one then, worth a try at least, /dev/scsi/host13/bus0/target0/lun0
[11:00] <squirrelpimp> snowblink: i had a timer simply displaying green digits and executin a cmd, but that was years ago and i can't find it anymore
[11:00] <jwbos> Hi, I need some help. I accidenlty removed my top panel (as a whole) how to restore it to the default settings??
[11:02] <kameron> beardy: negatron
[11:04] <squirrelpimp> snowblink: nothing usable in the repos:-)(
[11:04] <squirrelpimp> so i guess my pasta will be overdone...
[11:04] <lillpelle> squirrelpimp: just pick a "macaroni" and taste if it is done...
[11:04] <fek> great... after a dist-upgrade i have to reinstall my hole system. thanks to ubuntu!
[11:05] <UltraVi01> Flash 8, yet?
[11:05] <snowblink> squirrelpimp, throw pasta at wall - if it sticks, it's done
[11:05] <viviersf> fek, to what did you upgrade ?
[11:05] <fek> from hoary to breezy
[11:05] <viviersf> lol
[11:05] <viviersf> fek,
[11:05] <squirrelpimp> snowblink: know that dilbert strip about that method? dogbert saying "only test one at a time":-)
[11:05] <fek> viviersf: lol?
[11:05] <kameron> beardy: oh gosh. i just unplugged the device, and plugged it back in. it really enjoyed that, and decided not only to mount it, but open the device in nautilus.
[11:05] <viviersf> Fek, just do dist-upgrade again
[11:05] <viviersf> i had same problem
[11:05] <Seveas> fek, do you have 'ubuntu-desktop' instaled?
[11:06] <fek> viviersf: it will install nothing
[11:06] <snowblink> squirrelpimp, heh
[11:06] <Seveas> or 'kubuntu-desktop' if you use kde
[11:06] <kameron> beardy: *shakes head*. i won't bother booting with it plugged in.
[11:06] <fek> sevas: kubuntu-desktop
[11:06] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Seveas: can you help me with a printing problem please?
[11:06] <Seveas> CanYouHelpMePlz, no
[11:06] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thanks..
[11:06] <fek> and now the system is so damaged, i couldn't do nothing and i am fed up
[11:06] <beardy> kameron: Oh, that's good.
[11:07] <fek> and when i changed the sources from breezy to hoary and do a dist-upgrade. it told me everytime, the newest version are allready installed
[11:07] <lillpelle> fek: following what you have written last day about X not working and so on, maybe a fresh breezy install is the way to go anyways...
[11:07] <viviersf> erm fek
[11:07] <beardy> kameron: And if you run 'mount' now, what does it say it's device name is?
[11:08] <viviersf> wtf would you change "breezy" to "hoary"
[11:08] <viviersf> hoary is much older
[11:09] <Seveas> fek, that indeed will not held
[11:09] <Seveas> fek, please confirm: do you have 'ubuntu-desktop' instaled?
[11:09] <kameron> ubuntu@S0106000129f5b884:/media/usbdisk$ mount | grep usbdisk
[11:09] <kameron> /dev/sda1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (blahblah etc)..
[11:10] <fek> sevas: i have kubuntu-desktop installed
[11:10] <fek> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[11:10] <fek>  ?]  yes
[11:10] <fek> Abort.
[11:10] <fek> rofl?
[11:11] <beardy> kameron: Ok
[11:11] <CodenameKT> Seveas: what do u do for a living that allows u to be on this channel so much
[11:11] <fek> to reinstall kubuntu-desktop i need lsb, but it conflicts with lsb-base and this one is not uninstallable
[11:11] <fek> lillpelle: with 5.10 i'll get the xorg problem again
[11:12] <deFrysk> CodenameKT, what do you do for a living having to ask this ?
[11:12] <fek> i'll try the live cd
[11:12] <pinucset> one think, i've seen that google and intel are going to be "friends", is intel pro free software or not?
[11:12] <x9>  I just compiled and installed mplayer and it works well, but the colors are really off.
[11:12] <lillpelle> fek: and still you try to upgrade to it? Or are you trying to downgrade to hoary from breezy?
[11:12] <fek> i have only hoary now in my sources
[11:12] <fek> and i want to downgrade the hole system step by step
[11:12] <fek> but it's not possible anymore
[11:12] <lillpelle> hm, then I'd suggest a clean install of hoary
[11:13] <CodenameKT> deFrysk: I wait tables for a living. Sad, existence I know. I've done some tech jobs before but none have which allowed me to have irc going on the network
[11:13] <kameron> deFrysk: lol, good point
[11:13] <LemLapLin> what can i use to view the S.M.A.R.T. data for my hdd in ubuntu?
[11:14] <Seveas> fek, apt is not made for downgrading, we'd better focus on getting hoary working
[11:14] <kameron> CodenameKT: there's nothing sad about waiting tables. certainly this isn't the place for me to give you a confidence speech, but surely, nothing sad at all.
[11:14] <fek> sevaas: i had hoary running well but i decieded to upgrade to breezy
[11:14] <LemLapLin> waiting tables is a good job
[11:14] <Seveas> fek, apt is not made for downgrading, we'd better focus on getting *breezy* working
[11:14] <LemLapLin> there are worse jobs that that
[11:14] <LemLapLin> much worse
[11:14] <fek> seveas: with breezy my dual head config won't work
[11:14] <LemLapLin> cleaning toilets for instance
[11:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> such as crack whore.
[11:14] <Seveas> fek, change your sources.list to breezy again and tell me where it goes wrong
[11:15] <fek> i try the live cd and when this not will work... i have to reinstall hoary completly
[11:15] <Seveas> did you in hoary manually install video card drivers fek?
[11:15] <fek> bye
[11:15] <fek> seveas: my xorg i810 driver is borken
[11:15] <fek> no
[11:15] <fek> i just used the image kernel and the i810 xorg driver
[11:15] <Seveas> which kernel version are you using in breezy?
[11:15] <fek> single screen works perfect. but when i want to use the second one i'll get only a "green" screen
[11:16] <fek> Linux jammin 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:16] <LemLapLin> can someone please tell me what i can use to read smart data from my hdd
[11:16] <LemLapLin> i think it's playing up
[11:16] <squirrelpimp> LemLapLin: smart data??
[11:16] <deFrysk> CodenameKT, that was a retorical quetsion , I dont care what you do
[11:17] <Seveas> fek, hmm..
[11:17] <LemLapLin> hdd self diagnostic data squirrelpimp
[11:17] <Seveas> let me ponder a bit...
[11:17] <CodenameKT> deFrysk: stay right there while I add u to my ignore list
[11:17] <LemLapLin> smart = Self Monitoring and Reporting Technology
[11:17] <squirrelpimp> i see
[11:17] <fek> seveas: that's the config and it worked with hoary: http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/xorg.conf
[11:17] <squirrelpimp> but dunno
[11:18] <gerald-volt> what file do I edit to configure my startup
[11:18] <LemLapLin> does ubuntu work with rpm's ok?
[11:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> no.
[11:19] <Seveas> fek, You might be bitten by this bug: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20240
[11:20] <fek> gna
[11:20] <fek> firefox is now borken, too
[11:20] <schwuk> Can anyone help me with a laptop netowrk issue? I've got an Acer 1654WMLi that installs fine (with noapic). Network is detected and enabled, but it won't get a DHCP address.
[11:21] <fek> seveas: is there any patch available?
[11:21] <sakkew> what is the difference between ubuntu-5.10-install-amd64.iso and ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso ?
[11:21] <fek> seveas: couldn't open it
[11:21] <fek> my system is just only running borken in the ram
[11:21] <Seveas> fek, unfortunately not, it would help if you add you comments to it
[11:22] <Seveas> sakkew, one is n install cd, the other a live cd
[11:22] <BigKahuna> I have a password protected rar file but Im not sure how to specify the password before extracting? any ideas?
[11:22] <fek> have to boot my other notebook
[11:22] <gerald-volt> how do I configure my startup?
[11:23] <ilba7r> gerald-volt, system>prefrences>session
[11:23] <gerald-volt> i'm not using gnome
[11:23] <ilba7r> than consult the window manager you are using
[11:23] <x9> How do I remove totem without getting rid of the ubuntu desktop?
[11:23] <sakkew> Seveas: i'm sorry but what does "live" mean in this case?
[11:24] <ilba7r> sakkew, it is a demo cd that will run from your cd without installing to your harddisk
[11:24] <deFrysk> x9, ubuntu-desktop is a matepackage and can be removed safely
[11:24] <deFrysk> meta*
[11:24] <x9> oh, ok.
[11:24] <sakkew> ilba7r, thanks
[11:24] <fek> seveas: hmm. i taking breezy again and install the packages... it makes no sense to downgrade because it's impossible
[11:24] <fek> seveas: that's not a good statement to ubuntu...!
[11:24] <ilba7r> :)
[11:24] <bnD> can someone help me out? i just installed ubuntu server, and then installed xdm, however i think i didnt set resolution correctly, can someone lead me to where i can set the res for xdm?
[11:25] <Seveas> fek, indeed, I'm very sorry to hear this
[11:25] <fek> but hmmm... the xorg-problem is not concering ubuntu itself
[11:25] <Ng> hmm, is klibido the only nntp client in bunty with nzb support?
[11:25] <sakkew> is there a way to run ubuntu from inside windows?
[11:25] <deFrysk> bnD, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:25] <bnD> deFrysk, thank you
[11:25] <Ng> sakkew: qemu or vmware ought to do the trick
[11:26] <megabytes> anyone know how i can use my adsl usb modem on ubuntu?
[11:27] <x9> I'm burning to death and my lady friend doesn't care!
[11:27] <fek> seveas: the problem is... i'll won't get any errors
[11:28] <Seveas> fek, not even in Xorg.0.log?
[11:29] <fek> http://home.kinderfresser.org/~fek/temp/Xorg.0.log
[11:29] <fek> seveas: i'll only get a turquoise background when kdm tries to startup
[11:31] <Seveas> fek, I'm afraid I'm out of clue
[11:31] <fek> seveas: dito ;)
[11:31] <BigKahuna> how to extract files from a .rar?
[11:31] <Seveas> maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can get you further
[11:31] <Seveas> but I doubt it since xorg.conf looks ok
[11:32] <bnD> hrm
[11:32] <bnD> poo
[11:32] <Seveas> BigKahuna, unrar x filename.rar
[11:32] <bnD> can anyone help me out? when i attempt to start xdm i get a gray screen with a lil X in the middle then i go back to console..
[11:32] <BigKahuna> Seveas, and if the rar is password protected?
[11:32] <BigKahuna> I know what the password is.
[11:32] <Seveas> BigKahuna, man unrar
[11:32] <Tomcat_> BigKahuna: unrar will ask you.
[11:33] <BigKahuna> k thanks.
[11:33] <Seveas> bnD, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[11:33] <bnD> Seveas, thanks
[11:34] <bnD> Seveas, the only 'warning' i see is "font redered for * already registered at priority 0
[11:34] <bnD> any thoughts?
[11:35] <Seveas> nope
[11:35] <bnD> poo
[11:35] <bnD> thanks anyways
[11:35] <selinium> I have been waiting for some updates to show their changes for about 2 weeks now, as far as I can see I have nothing strange in my repos.  The change versions look strange as well. 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1  appears on all the upgrades without a change record. All updates regard php.
[11:36] <nics__> bnD; does 'startx -- :1' keep a running X server, i.e. is it a xdm problem or X config problem
[11:36] <bnD> nics__, one sec
[11:36] <Despen> Where can I find help so I can install scummVM 0.80?
[11:36] <fek> seveas: on this way i got a working single-head config. but when i add the second screen, it will crash
[11:37] <LemLapLin> how do i get ubuntu to read an ntfs partition
[11:37] <aftertaf> !tell LemLapLin about windowsdrives
[11:37] <selinium> !tell LemLapLin about ntfs
[11:37] <aftertaf> !tell selinium about lartist
[11:37] <Seveas> that's exactly what that bug report is about
[11:38] <aftertaf> :)
[11:38] <Seveas> !tell aftertaf about attitude
[11:38] <selinium> aftertaf, lol
[11:39] <aftertaf> Seveas:  the original lartist :)
[11:39] <Ng> "lartist" makes no sense ;)
[11:39] <aftertaf> it does if you cat /dev/random Ng  ;)
[11:40] <Ng> eh?
[11:40] <aftertaf> brb
[11:41] <bnD> um..
[11:41] <bnD> where is xorg.conf supposed to be?
[11:41] <aftertaf> bnD:  /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[11:41] <aftertaf> bnD:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:41] <aftertaf> even
[11:41] <bnD> aftertaf, yeah, thought so, thanks
[11:41] <bungle> hi all
[11:42] <bnD> nics__, startx -- :1 keeps a running xserver
[11:42] <LemLapLin> ok the partition is mounted but it says i don't have the correct permissions when i try to access it
[11:42] <bnD> nics__, that actually put me into fluxbox...
[11:42] <selinium> Seveas, Can you help with my update issue? THe updates do not have anything in the change records and haven't for a couple of weeks. Is this an oversite, or are my repos borked?
[11:43] <nics__> ok well that should mean your x config is ok and its a xdm problem
[11:43] <selinium> aftertaf, Congrats... :)
[11:43] <bnD> nics__, know where i should look next/
[11:43] <bnD> ?*
[11:43] <nics__> bnD: you running GNOME, KDE or something else?
[11:44] <bnD> nics__, xdm + fluxbox
[11:44] <nics__> bnD; not sure where to look to be honest if the logs don't give a clue, something in the xdm login must crap out
[11:45] <bnD> nics__, thanks for the help ;)
[11:45] <alainlucas> How to download the page http://www.ubuntu-fr.org/ with all the stuffs it uses so that i can open it as a local file ? (save file under... doesn't work well in firefox)
[11:46] <nics__> could try re-installing xdm
[11:46] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, got another lame question, i want to ISO a directory but ignore all of the ISO standards for filenames and directories, I've checked the man pages but the switches ive tried dont appea rto make a difference
[11:46] <WebLOCH> That comment was in relation to mkisofs
[11:47] <LemLapLin> come on someone help me get this working. i want my mp3's already :-D
[11:48] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, instructions for that are on the wiki, under RestrictedFormats
[11:48] <WebLOCH> !RestrictedFormats
[11:48] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:48] <annibis> can anyone help me install a .deb file
[11:48] <bnD> whats weird is xdm isnt even writing to .log or .pid file :/
[11:48] <moret> hi all
[11:48] <Ng> WebLOCH: can you not use the Joliet and Rockridge extensions to do that?
[11:48] <annibis> I am trying to install skype
[11:48] <WebLOCH> annibis, yeah   sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[11:48] <moret> I am working in Debian now, but I want to change to Kubuntu
[11:48] <annibis> thanks
[11:49] <anandaputra> hi..
[11:49] <moret> in Ubuntu, is there a package with tahoma font?
[11:49] <nics__> bnD: even wierder my system doesn't allow xdm, just gdm or kdm
[11:49] <anandaputra> i need help.. how to use proxychains??
[11:49] <WebLOCH> Ng, maybe Im just checking the verbose now, i have a feeling it worked but because its spazzed me with text I assuemd it hadnt without reading it all!
[11:49] <bnD> nics__, really? very strange
[11:49] <nics__> bnD: I know :-)
[11:49] <moret> in Ubuntu, is there a package with tahoma font or ubuntu's license is really like Debian?
[11:49] <bnD> hrm
[11:50] <bnD> well with startx i end up in a lowres fluxbox
[11:50] <Den> !tell Den about deb
[11:50] <bnD> i guess thats something
[11:50] <anandaputra> i want to use ssh, but there is a proxy in front of our network..
[11:50] <Ng> WebLOCH: I'm just wondering if you are trying to violate iso9660 intentionally, or if you just want long filenames to work properly. If it's the latter, enable joliet and rockridge and your discs will be fine in windows and unix respectively
[11:50] <garry> bnD, Might try this command to reconfigure xdm, it might save a complete reinstall. As taken from the xorg.conf file .... sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:50] <nics__> might still need to re-configure X for the correct resolution
[11:50] <bnD> garry, thanks ill try it out
[11:50] <WebLOCH> Ng, Intentional, I had deep directories and other bits
[11:51] <bnD> nics__, i set it to 1440x900 which is right for this laptop :)
[11:51] <garry> bnD Good luck to ye.
[11:51] <Hawk|-> !help
[11:51] <bnD> garry, :)
[11:51] <nics__> bnD: wow such lowres, mine only works properly at 1920x1200 :-)
[11:51] <LemLapLin> WebLOCH, that's not the problem. i can't access the ntfs drive they are on
[11:51] <bnD> nics__, i envy you ;)
[11:51] <LemLapLin> says i don't have the right permissions'
[11:52] <bnD> hrm
[11:52] <Hawk|-> Den, is here a bot ?
[11:52] <moret> I want tahoma font, witch package is it in?
[11:52] <bnD> should vesa be the correct setting?
[11:52] <bnD> i have no idea what im doing here ;x
[11:52] <Ng> moret: it's not, tahoma is not freely distributable, you'll need to grab it from a windows machine
[11:52] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, then you should have specified that really.  Try copying them to your linux partition with 'sudo cp'
[11:52] <nics__> bnD: its a thing of beauty :-) I think vesa can handle it though I am using the proprietory nvidia drivers so that I can use xcompmgr
[11:52] <garry> Does it say you can't access because you are not root?
[11:52] <LemLapLin> i did specify it earlier
[11:53] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, maybe you need to start your media player as 'sudo' to overide the permissions, Im not sure.  Not while I was here LemLapLin
[11:53] <bnD> lol
[11:53] <bnD> so
[11:53] <bnD> i did what garry suggested, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:53] <LemLapLin> nah i can't access it at all
[11:53] <LemLapLin> it's mapped as hda1
[11:53] <bnD> and got a beautiful hires xdm that dumped :P
[11:53] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, its not mounted?
[11:53] <LemLapLin> it is mounted
[11:53] <cratuki> *Complete* newbie question coming :( I've installed libgtk2.0-dev using apt-get, and run ldconfig..
[11:53] <garry> argh.
[11:53] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, then you CAN access it
[11:53] <cratuki> .. yet when I try to compile some source code from the beginning of the gtk tutorial, I get "main.c:1:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory"
[11:54] <bnD> xdm is running, however it isnt creating a .pid file in /var/run/
[11:54] <Hawk|-> !tell Hawk|-  about deb
[11:54] <nics__> try setting the default colour depth to 16 rather than 24 in the xorg.conf
[11:54] <bnD> poo.
[11:54] <LemLapLin> it says i don't have the right permissions when i try to access it
[11:54] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, goto the command line
[11:54] <nics__> will need to kill off xdm and restart for it to take effect
[11:54] <garry> sec, I might have a help for that. The fstab line will need to have the device and mountpoints changed of course. ... sec
[11:54] <LemLapLin> yup
[11:54] <bnD> nics__, ill give it a try, brb
[11:55] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, and from the command line try to enter the root
[11:55] <LemLapLin> sudo?
[11:55] <WebLOCH> yeah why not
[11:55] <WebLOCH> I assume you just got the usermasks wrong
[11:56] <garry> LemLapLin, Here's the line, the filesystem type and device names and mountpoints might need changing, but this cured my problem when I could not access .... /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       0
[11:56] <garry> thatis from the /etc/fstab file
[11:56] <WebLOCH> fairenoughhaha
[11:56] <LemLapLin> it's not sata
[11:56] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, just change the mount point and the device
[11:57] <garry> yep
[11:57] <WebLOCH> /dev/hdaX       /mnt/pnt   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       0
[11:57] <kameron> W0000T!!! it took a coupel hours, but i finally hacked together my own lilo to run on ubuntu. works great :D:D:D
[11:57] <WebLOCH> kameron, im sure people would love to  hear about it... on #u-offtopic
[11:57] <garry> the important part is the ro or rw,, umask=0722 part.
[11:57] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[11:57] <kameron> WebLOCH: i'm sure people would like.. to.. errr, eff off. thank you.
[11:58] <WebLOCH> kameron, sounds like your a cockbite
[11:58] <kameron> WebLOCH: people in this channel have been helping me for the past few hours with my lilo, and various steps, just thought i'd let them know: mission successful.
[11:58] <WebLOCH> kameron, fair enough, my apologies
[11:58] <kameron> WebLOCH: mine also, cockbite :P
[11:59] <LemLapLin> so how do i reload the fstab to access it now?
[11:59] <Pygi> kameron: congrats :)
[11:59] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, mount -a
[11:59] <WebLOCH> LemLapLin, sudo of course
[11:59] <kameron> ty Pygi
[12:00] <LemLapLin> still says permission denied when i try to access it
[12:00] <_ubuntu> anyone know how to get multimonitor support on an nvidia card?  I have acceleration going, just can't figure out multimonitor
[12:00] <_ubuntu> ack
[12:00] <kameron> _ubuntu: the live cd does that to you :P
[12:01] <XaXXon> kameron: the name thing?  or something to do with multimonitor?
[12:01] <garry> Hmmm, something strange going on. That should have worked
[12:01] <kameron> XaXXon: name thing
[12:01] <XaXXon> yeah
[12:01] <XaXXon> wasn't paying attention
[12:01] <JoeBlow> when I run native quake2 installer, the terminal says Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[12:01] <nics__> LemLapLin: try umask=0222
[12:01] <LemLapLin> kk
[12:01] <kameron> XaXXon: i'll ping my friend, see if he's on. he has dual benq 17s
[12:02] <JoeBlow> anyone have any ideas for me?
[12:02] <kameron> XaXXon: ah, no luck. sorry.
[12:02] <garry> I had a student come to me other dayfor help on printing, his paper would not print. Turned out he spent two hours typing his paper ona  computer htat was turned off. He thought it was the screensaver!!
[12:02] <JoeBlow> when i run native quake 2 installer, it seems to never find my disks, same with doom 3, and i can browse them and all
[12:02] <XaXXon> kameron: thanks anyhow :)
[12:03] <LemLapLin> nope still permission denied
[12:04] <nics__> LemLapLin: ok whats the permissions on the directory you are trying to mount the drive to?
[12:04] <garry> LemLapLin, recheck syntax, make sure it saved, reboot and try agn.
[12:04] <garry> hmm, good question nics__
[12:04] <nics__> cheers :-)
[12:04] <LemLapLin> how do i view the permissions?
[12:05] <sambagirl> what is command for finding ip address in ubuntu?
[12:05] <LemLapLin> ifconfig
[12:05] <sambagirl> ipconfig?
[12:05] <XaXXon>  /sbin/ifconfig
[12:05] <sambagirl> if
[12:05] <kemik> sambagirl:  depends on what you mean
[12:05] <kemik> ifconfig
[12:05] <sambagirl> thank yon
[12:05] <kemik> or "host domainname"
[12:05] <JoeBlow> hey can someone help me out with quake 2 native install?
[12:05] <garry> right click directory choose permissions.
[12:05] <LemLapLin> JoeBlow, wait for turophile to come online
[12:06] <LemLapLin> he is the linux gaming guru
[12:06] <JoeBlow> LemLapLin: is he coming online soon?
[12:06] <XaXXon> when I download packages when booted off the live cd, where are they going?
[12:06] <garry> Try seeing if it runs anyway Joe, It kind of sounds like a fond might be missing.
[12:06] <LemLapLin> no idea
[12:06] <phoeton> hi guys!
[12:06] <LemLapLin> doh
[12:06] <LemLapLin> wrong channel
[12:06] <LemLapLin> sorry
[12:06] <JoeBlow> garry: it wont find my cd's or mounted iso's
[12:06] <nics__> coffee break, brb
[12:08] <garry> JoeBlow Strange thing, is that my copy doen't ask for the cd, so it gives no issues. Ye aren't trying to unstall under wine/cedega are ye? There is a native installer avail from www.id.com that you can run quakes/dooms without wine/cedega.
[12:08] <Pygi> freky: ping
[12:08] <JoeBlow> garry: I was using loki installer
[12:08] <phoeton> I have the following bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49397 kan anyone tell me if it is possible to avoid it?
[12:08] <phoeton> Bug description: Mozilla was installed as root and shall now be used by a normal user. I am not able to edit or read out any of my IMAP folders.
[12:08] <garry> JoeBlow hmm, sounds like you are doing it right. All I can guess is a font is missing.
[12:09] <Seveas> woah
[12:09] <Seveas> spambot!
[12:09] <JoeBlow> garry: it says gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[12:09] <LemLapLin> how do i view permissions on a directory?
[12:10] <JoeBlow> garry: but still loads
[12:10] <kameron> lelamplin: ls -l
[12:10] <Seveas> LemLapLin, ls -ld /path/to/folder
[12:10] <garry> oh good. so it runs?
[12:11] <Seveas> _null, you're downgraded?
[12:11] <JoeBlow> garry: I dont know what happened, but now its running it in terminal and working
[12:11] <kameron> lelampin: ls -ld, seveas got it. i missed the d.
[12:12] <vk> is there any way to use a wabcam with linux and msn?
[12:12] <Jhair> LemLapLin, stat <directory>
[12:12] <garry> JoeBlow  grats, least it's working now. :) Oh, the music won't play, its normal thing because linux doesn't support all the nice sound drivers that the games sometimes use, at least not yet.
[12:12] <JoeBlow> garry: I dont know how i got it to run in terminal tho
[12:13] <JoeBlow> garry: would be nice to figure that out
[12:13] <sunnzy2> Does anyone know how to add stuff to the Application Menu on Gnome 2.10.2?
[12:13] <yanis> is there any X11 dev package? I cant find one
[12:13] <yanis> sunnzy2: smeg
[12:13] <garry> Yes, I run mine in KDE on my ubunto it seems I can install KDE and have both available.
[12:14] <sunnzy2> smeg?
[12:14] <Ng> yanis: libx11-dev and some others - apt-cache search libx | grep dev
[12:14] <sunnzy2> bash: smeg: command not found
[12:14] <garry> sleepy time, 3:15am, gnight all.
[12:14] <Ng> sunnzy2: sudo apt-get install smeg :)
[12:14] <yanis> thanks Ng
[12:14] <yanis> sunnzy2: lol :P
[12:15] <Ng> having said that, smeg should be installed by default on breezy, ubuntu-desktop depends on it
[12:15] <Seveas> sunnzy2, are you using dapper?
[12:16] <flogiston> Help I think i killed something in xfce.
[12:16] <sunnzy2> Thanks.
[12:16] <flogiston> I can't click on the desktop.
[12:17] <LemLapLin> dr-x------  1 root root 8192 2006-01-05 23:31 hda1
[12:17] <LemLapLin> that means it's locked to me doesn't it?
[12:17] <Renski> yes, unless you have sudo access
[12:18] <LemLapLin> so how can i make it so that i can access it?
[12:18] <ibmnotebook> is there a way to install ACTIVE X on ubuntu? i need access to Microsoft Sharepoint
[12:19] <LemLapLin> rofl
[12:19] <Renski> LemLapLin: sudo (your command)
[12:19] <Renski> or su (if you have a root password setup)
[12:19] <Renski> then you command
[12:19] <Renski> exit
[12:19] <Renski> *your
[12:19] <LemLapLin> i was kinda hoping for help with the actuall command
[12:19] <Hunt02> hi everyone
[12:20] <Renski> LemLapLin: hda1 your windows share?
[12:20] <LemLapLin> yeah
[12:20] <Hunt02> i'm using an old PC (2Ghz, 256MB RAM) and want to use NetBeans on it
[12:20] <Renski> ah, you need to mount it
[12:20] <LemLapLin> ntfs drive on local machine
[12:20] <Hunt02> but to save some ram, i want to install a lite version of ubuntu
[12:20] <Hunt02> how can i disable as much background processes as necessary N?
[12:21] <Renski> sorry, ive got to go, LemLapLin ask one of the others how to mount an ntfs drive
[12:21] <flogiston> xfce whould work super
[12:21] <LemLapLin> ok will do
[12:21] <LemLapLin> the drive is mounted
[12:21] <LemLapLin> just can't access it cause of the permissions
[12:21] <Hunt02> flogiston, and this can be installed with apt-get ?
[12:21] <nics__> LemLapLin: can root access the directory and see the files?
[12:22] <LemLapLin> no that's the problem
[12:22] <LemLapLin> am trying to get access to it
[12:22] <flogiston> "sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop" i think
[12:22] <LemLapLin> ah
[12:22] <LemLapLin> root
[12:22] <kameron> vk: you around?
[12:22] <LemLapLin> not sure
[12:22] <LemLapLin> i don't have root login enabled
[12:23] <Zambba> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <nics__> LemLapLin: just trying to work out whether its a perms or mount problem, can try 'sudo ls /<mountpoint>'
[12:23] <Hunt02> Zambba, and how much RAM will use the total installation then ?
[12:23] <vk> kameron, sure
[12:24] <LemLapLin> perms
[12:24] <LemLapLin> that worked
[12:24] <LemLapLin> i need to change the perms so i can access it
[12:24] <Zambba> Hunt02: huh, does installation spend RAM?
[12:24] <Zambba> I thought only using programs would spend it
[12:24] <nics__> LemLapLin: ok then unmount the drive and make sure that all users have x+r perms on the mount directory and its parent
[12:25] <kameron> vk: it's worth looking into project utopia
[12:25] <flogiston> hunt02; not much.
[12:25] <Hunt02> Zambba, i mean the total active system
[12:25] <flogiston> www.xfce.org
[12:25] <joshua> good morn all
[12:25] <Zambba> Hunt02: oh okay
[12:25] <LemLapLin> ok will do
[12:25] <flogiston> right now im using 250MB.
[12:25] <Hunt02> and there aren't any other things that can be shut down ? such as printersupport
[12:25] <Zambba> but still I can't believe XFCE which is installed with Xubuntu would spend more RAM than bare XFCE
[12:25] <nics__> you have to have 'x' to be able to access directories
[12:25] <vk> kameron, project utopia?? isnt that a game?
[12:26] <joshua> switched to ubuntu from fedora4 tonidh im stuck in 640x400 any help?
[12:26] <nics__> and obviously 'r' to then read them
[12:26] <Zambba> Well it does spend more RAM but not very much more
[12:26] <kameron> vk: it's usb support
[12:26] <flogiston> firefox: 120MB, bmp: 50MB, gaim: 50MB
[12:26] <LemLapLin> shit
[12:26] <LemLapLin> lightning storm going on here
[12:26] <atlas> hello
[12:26] <LemLapLin> will be back later people
[12:26] <LemLapLin> thanks for the help
[12:26] <vk> kameron, sorry, i dont know i where looking for just a prog, but as far as i understand is it difficult to use webcam in linux or?
[12:27] <atlas> i'm searchin for how auto reload module when crashing or other
[12:27] <Hunt02> flogiston, did you take firefox etc. in account in that 250MB ?
[12:27] <joshua> can anyone see my posts?
[12:27] <nics__> joshua: no
[12:27] <nics__> :-)
[12:27] <JoeBlow> how can i tell where synaptic installs things?
[12:27] <joshua> ;)
[12:27] <flogiston> yeas
[12:27] <kameron> vk: it's not too difficult. gnome-meeting and other progs work well, but getting it to work with ms msn is difficult.
[12:27] <atlas> for example today i have installing a new network driver by ssh(i know it isn't a good thing lol)
[12:27] <atlas> but if computer do auto modprobe forcedeth...
[12:28] <atlas> the lan will be back...
[12:28] <vk> kameron, ok, its not that important so i think ill skip it
[12:28] <joshua> any hints or hacks to get ubuntu out of 640x400 display?
[12:28] <kameron> vk: alright
[12:28] <Hunt02> flogiston, so you mean the total bare system uses only 80MB RAM ?
[12:28] <vk> kameron, but tnx anyway
[12:28] <flogiston> i have 4 processes thats xfce. and the take less than 20MB each.
[12:28] <nics__> reconfigure xorg?
[12:29] <joshua> i googled and found info on xorg do i typ config xorg in term?
[12:29] <nics__> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <Hunt02> flogiston, isn't 80MB just for a WindowManager a lot ?
[12:29] <nics__> might need to sudo that
[12:29] <joshua> nics your the beFt
[12:30] <nics__> lol
[12:30] <flogiston> hunt02: xfce is a desktop enviroment.
[12:30] <tangmubai> hello. how can i copy one hd to and other? the first hd is bad, so i need some fail safe program.
[12:30] <TTilus> kameron: you actually _can_ make it work with msn (messenger) ?
[12:30] <nics__> tell the wife that
[12:30] <kameron> TTilus: i haven't tried, but i just suggested that he look into utopia
[12:30] <flogiston> It's lighter than gnome and kde.
[12:30] <TTilus> kameron: neverheardof, gotta check
[12:31] <joshua> little prayer to the elohim for ya;)
[12:31] <Hunt02> flogiston, ok, but if you compare it to explorer, it uses eight times as much
[12:31] <TTilus> Hunt02: really sure?
[12:32] <joshua> oh shoot what is default su password after install?
[12:32] <TTilus> Hunt02: me thinks its more like explorer being mostly hidden inside windows
[12:32] <Seveas> !tell joshua about root
[12:32] <joshua> ?
[12:32] <Seveas> ubotu, sent you a message
[12:32] <ubotu> Seveas: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:32] <Seveas> read it
[12:32] <joshua> is that a command?
[12:32] <flogiston> Firefox is know to eat ram. But it's not a part of the xfce desktop.
[12:32] <drviju> how to mount floopy drive?
[12:32] <flogiston> As you probably know.
[12:33] <flogiston> Did you check the homepage i gave to you? www.xfce.org
[12:33] <ratschnowski> hello, when deinstalling via apt-get remove --purge all the configuration of the selected package is removed. Is it the same for those packages the selected one depends on?
[12:33] <TTilus> drviju: floppy in, go places -> computer -> ...
[12:33] <Seveas> ratschnowski, no
[12:34] <Seveas> ratschnowski, look at debfoster for that
[12:34] <drviju> gives message cant mount
[12:34] <ratschnowski> i want to deinstall postfix but it says that apache mysql etc will be removed too
[12:34] <Hunt02> but you guys mean 80Mb is the total amount of RAM that's used ?
[12:34] <joshua> any info on su - root password?
[12:34] <ratschnowski> Seveas, debfoster?
[12:34] <joshua> im obliviously a newb
[12:34] <Seveas> ratschnowski, these may depend on postfix
[12:34] <flogiston> less than 80Mb.
[12:34] <Seveas> joshua, read what ubotu sent you
[12:34] <flogiston> more like 60MB.
[12:34] <joshua> oh
[12:34] <TTilus> ratschnowski: why an earth would you like to deinstall postfix?
[12:35] <Hunt02> magnificent ;-)
[12:35] <ratschnowski> i have a serious problem and want to "reinstall" it
[12:35] <Hunt02> anyone exp with NetBeans and Linux ?
[12:35] <ratschnowski> its the last solution i have
[12:35] <Seveas> ratschnowski, dpkg -P --force-depends postfix && apt-get intall postfix
[12:35] <kemik> Hunt02:  not realy, but shoot!
[12:35] <flogiston> think they have netbeans for linux on the java homepage.
[12:35] <ratschnowski> ok, thx
[12:36] <netstooge> www.needee.com
[12:36] <kameron> netstooge: please DO NOT spam channel is garbage like that
[12:37] <TTilus> what filesystems are available during breezy install?
[12:37] <Hunt02> kameron, perhaps it's with an exploit of that WMF-leak
[12:37] <kameron> TTilus... plenty. anyone one you have in mind? i don't remember off hand.
[12:37] <kameron> Hunt02: WMF-leak?
[12:37] <TTilus> kameron: MS-problems
[12:38] <kameron> Hunt02: oh, and to answer your question above, yes, i've used netbeans in linux
[12:38] <Hunt02> kameron, that thing they found in windows recentl
[12:38] <Hunt02> y
[12:38] <LasseL> !backports
[12:38] <ubotu> from memory, backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:38] <TTilus> kameron: im trying to figure out which filesystem would be best for mythtv-box
[12:38] <kameron> TTilus: what sort of ms problem? can't read ntfs or fat32?
[12:38] <TTilus> kameron: that MS-problems was pointing to WMF-leak, that is
[12:38] <kameron> TTilus: hmm. i'll get back to you on that shortly.
[12:39] <TTilus> kameron: i was thinking of reiser4
[12:39] <_null> Why would I get a 'no space left on device' message when I see in df that there is 58% used only?
[12:39] <kameron> TTilus: what distro are you planning to use?
[12:39] <mwe> TTilus: is it 100% ready? I'm using reiser3
[12:39] <Hunt02> gg
[12:39] <Hunt02> bye
[12:39] <joshua> how do i execute this command in terminal if i can't be root in terminal?
[12:40] <TTilus> _null: maybe you are trying to copy file bigger than 42% of your volume
[12:40] <_null> TTilus, no, a touch /media/foobar says no space left
[12:40] <joshua> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <_null> TTilus, /dev/md2              297G  171G  127G  58% /media
[12:40] <_null>  <- this is /media
[12:40] <TTilus> mwe: everything ive read suggests its not "ready"
[12:40] <Tomcat_> mwe: It is, but I'm staying on the safe side with reiser3 too :)
[12:40] <comic> kamy you like eh?
[12:41] <Seveas> joshua, READ THAT WIKIPAGE!
[12:41] <nics__> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:41] <TTilus> anyone know if reiser4 is available during install?
[12:41] <TTilus> (im lazy as hell now...)
[12:41] <nics__> give it your user password when prompted
[12:41] <kameron> TTilus: read here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html under Filesystems. Reiser3/4 is NOT reccomended.
[12:42] <TTilus> kameron: woops, never read that, thanx
[12:42] <LasseL> !openoffice
[12:42] <ubotu> LasseL: I give up, what is it?
[12:42] <pinucset> how can i know my gcc version?
[12:42] <Seveas> pinucset, gcc -v
[12:42] <joshua> seveas debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[12:42] <joshua> gotcha
[12:42] <drviju> ttilus how to mount floopy drive
[12:42] <Seveas> joshua, close all other apt programs
[12:42] <LasseL> I'd like to upgrade my openoffice 2 install on breezy, the one I have scrolls so terribly slow in calc that it must be a bug
[12:43] <_null> TTilus, got it, the blocksize was 4 mbyte, so each little file (and I have a lot of small files) consumed 4 mbytes :p
[12:43] <joshua> in the system process window?
[12:43] <TTilus> kameron: wow, so its xfs or jfs
[12:43] <Seveas> no, just nicely close them...
[12:43] <TTilus> kameron: xfs looks like being a real overkill
[12:43] <kameron> TTilus: idealy, yes. it makes sense if you think about it.
[12:44] <nics__> joshua: close all open windows, open a terminal and run the command from there
[12:44] <kameron> TTilus: depends how large the files are you're going to create. likely, large.
[12:44] <joshua> k thank you for patience!
[12:44] <TTilus> _null: mygod! 4mb blocks, why?
[12:44] <joshua> may you inherit my fortune
[12:44] <_null> TTilus, because normally every file is about 50 mbyte big
[12:44] <TTilus> kameron: thats true
[12:45] <TTilus> kameron: i currently have reiser3 on my mythbox  :D
[12:45] <_null> TTilus, but my backup has had about 50'000 files each ~3kbyte big ;)
[12:45] <nics__> how much is it worth :-)
[12:45] <Diablo69> oy...I have been working on this damn thing for over 8 hours now and it still won't work
[12:45] <Seveas> Diablo69, which damn thing?
[12:45] <kameron> TTilus: do i smell a reformat? :P
[12:45] <Diablo69> installing ubuntu
[12:45] <Diablo69> every time I try
[12:45] <TTilus> kameron: yes you do, and a reinstall
[12:46] <TTilus> kameron: i have install cd burning right now
[12:46] <Diablo69> it freezes at hot plug, and or it decided to not install properly becuz files on the disc or iso image are currupt
[12:46] <kameron> TTilus: what distro are you using? ubuntu will work, but other distros are more specialized for the task if that's the only thing you'll use the box for.
[12:46] <joshua> well im running all four of my dumpster dove computers in vairous kernels of linux while watching tv from a dumpster maybe you can guess the sum of my assests?
[12:46] <joshua> ;)
[12:46] <TTilus> kameron: thats definitely not the only thing
[12:46] <Seveas> Diablo69, then check your iso and disk...
[12:46] <Diablo69> I have
[12:46] <Diablo69> its from the ubuntu site
[12:46] <nics__> :-)
[12:46] <kameron> Diablo69: have you scrolled through F1-F10 after typing "rescue" at the boot prompt?
[12:46] <Diablo69> I tried dapper
[12:46] <TTilus> kameron: it'll be full desktop besides being mythbox
[12:46] <Seveas> Diablo69, dapper has no hotplug
[12:47] <Diablo69> I know this
[12:47] <kameron> TTilus: okay, cool.
[12:47] <Diablo69> its being even more of a pain in the ass
[12:47] <Diablo69> it keeps saying lib something is currupt
[12:47] <TTilus> kameron: and web-server and fileserver and mailserver and so on
[12:47] <Seveas> dapper is unstable...
[12:47] <kameron> TTilus: werd
[12:47] <Seveas> Diablo69, check the md5sum of your iso
[12:47] <mcquaid> hello, i finally upgarded from oo1 to oo2
[12:47] <TTilus> kameron: would you go with xfs or jfs?
[12:47] <mwe> Seveas: but isn't the final dapper gonna have hotplug?
[12:47] <joshua> oh no i lost the dpkg command when i shut all windows
[12:47] <idp> where ican set my x config to 1024
[12:47] <Diablo69> anyway I can do that on windows, thats what I am on at the moment
[12:47] <mcquaid> it doesn't seem to have any native theme support at all.  is there a pkg I'm missing?
[12:47] <Diablo69> my other box doesn't have a os on it yet
[12:47] <Seveas> mwe, no, they kicked it out. Good riddance
[12:47] <TTilus> kameron: mythpeople seem to suggest jfs, but xfs looks otherwise more attractive
[12:48] <LasseL> If I download the latest OOo2 tarball will I be able to make apt install that as an upgrade to my current package?
[12:48] <mwe> Seveas: I see. interesting
[12:48] <hoffimar> idp check /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:48] <kameron> TTilus: mmm. personally. it's splitting hairs you realize. but i'd try xfs to start with.. and if it wasn't giving me the performance i wanted, or if i was doing really large files, i'd try jfs.
[12:48] <nics__> joshua: not a problem ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:48] <bungle> how do i install xfce?
[12:48] <TTilus> Are XFS and JFS available at Breezy install?
[12:48] <joshua> ty nics
[12:48] <Diablo69> do you think it could be becuz I have a external dvd burner and or I have a compaq presario desktop
[12:48] <Seveas> bungle, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:48] <_null> kameron, if you use xfs.. and your box loses power, some data will be lost ;)
[12:48] <bungle> thanks
[12:48] <kemik> what will they use if hotplug got booted?
[12:48] <LasseL> kameron, xfs is optimized for large files
[12:49] <Ng> _null: that will probably be true of most filesystems
[12:49] <Seveas> kemik, pure udev
[12:49] <_null> Ng, no
[12:49] <Ng> _null: yes
[12:49] <_null> Ng, xfs caches a lot
[12:49] <_null> Ng, ext3 does not
[12:49] <mwe> Ng: xfs is worse
[12:49] <kameron> LasseL, i got them backwards i think.
[12:49] <Ng> _null: anything in your writeback cache or in the disk's cache is lost no matter what the fs is doing
[12:49] <kameron> Lassel, _null, bah, i think i need to look up the difference again. :P
[12:49] <Ng> so you will probably lose data
[12:49] <_null> Ng, for sure. but the caching of xfs is much *more* intensive than the caching of ext3
[12:50] <TTilus> _null: it sounds like better performance to me
[12:50] <_null> TTilus, true with the cost of data security :p
[12:50] <Ng> _null: be that as it may, power loss and data loss go hand in hand ;)
[12:50] <TTilus> _null: and im not all that picky about loosing current recording
[12:50] <kameron> so, today is my first day of _really_ getting into the ubuntu system, i've had it installed for a few days though. i ran mdk and ydl for years before this ubuntu install. just wondering, is there a central configuration wizard, similar to Mandrake Control Center?
[12:50] <_null> TTilus, if you got an usv, then no problem ;)
[12:50] <joshua> joshua@savedmefromtheheap:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:50] <joshua> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[12:50] <mwe> _null: yeah xfs uses heavy caching. thus the high performance if you have dirs with thousands of files
[12:50] <Diablo69> i migh be going to bed, I have been up way to long
[12:50] <Diablo69> might*
[12:51] <Seveas> joshua, then close all other dpkg/apt processes
[12:51] <joshua> all windows were nicely closed
[12:51] <Diablo69> night
[12:51] <joshua> any other method for doing this?
[12:51] <_null> Ng, just my personal experience. my /etc/fstab was screwed up one day, and the other /etc/shadow ;)
[12:51] <Hawk|-> Problem: rsync -Cavuz /home/user/data user@10.10.10.10:/data/0/backup --password-file="/home/user/pwdfile" does not work! I got a password request from rsync, I tried the path of pwd file in " " and ' ' nothing changed
[12:51] <nics__> joshua: might be worth a reboot and doing it from a console rather than X
[12:51] <Seveas> kameron, Ubuntu just works, no configuration center needed :)
[12:51] <TTilus> _null: mm, heavy caching means heavy mem usage and the box doesnt have very much of that
[12:51] <joshua> how to console at boot instead of x?
[12:51] <kameron> Seveas: cool. it's what i've been noticing. i haven't really needed to use a control center.. just.. wondering if there is one.
[12:51] <TTilus> (currently)
[12:51] <mwe> _null: I've never lost data on reiser even though I accidently turned off the power outlet on the wall a few times
[12:51] <Seveas> Hawk|-, try rsync --passwordfile="something" -Cavus source dest
[12:51] <_null> TTilus,yes ;)
[12:51] <kameron> Seveas: how is it so much different from debian?
[12:52] <comic> why is ubantu just as bodgie as XP
[12:52] <_null> mwe, i'm speaking of xfs... reiser is ok ;)
[12:52] <nics__> ctrl+alt+F1
[12:52] <mwe> _null: I know
[12:52] <joshua> the millionaire touch
[12:52] <Seveas> !tell kameron about debian
[12:52] <comic> is it cuae it free?
[12:52] <togtog> hi, how can i convert a pdf-document, so that i have two pages on one?
[12:52] <joshua> thanks you again nics
[12:52] <mwe> _null: xfs is using heavy caching like you mentioned :)
[12:52] <_null> mwe, xfs is good too, if you have a lot of memory (>1gbyte) and an usv
[12:52] <nics__> lol no problem
[12:52] <TTilus> _null: what is usv?
[12:52] <woodwizzle> anyone here use lilypond
[12:52] <mwe> _null: and a stable power supply :)
[12:53] <_null> TTilus, uninteruptable power supply, in fact a battery that keeps your computer running if there's a power loss
[12:53] <joshua> how to get to x after command>
[12:53] <Hawk|-> Seveas, no it doesn't work
[12:53] <comic> is ubuntu just for geeks?
[12:53] <_null> TTilus, i say usv because i speak german ;)
[12:53] <ompaulelsewhere> comic, not funny, it is for anyone
[12:53] <Seveas> comic, no
[12:53] <joshua> comic ubuntu is the most friendl
[12:53] <TTilus> _null: o, im used to calling it ups
[12:53] <nics__> ctrl-alt+F7
[12:53] <kameron> comic: no, linux in general is
[12:53] <Nikusan> comic, no it's for human beings ;-)
[12:53] <Seveas> it's for Human Beings
[12:53] <nics__> crtl+alt even
[12:53] <_null> TTilus, yes of corse, forgot that :p
[12:53] <joshua> even easier than dsl
[12:53] <Hawk|-> lol
[12:53] <mwe> _null: I also head xfs is great if you serve huge directories with thousands of files in them
[12:53] <TTilus> _null: i still dont say kvl even if im a finn  :)
[12:53] <_null> yes
[12:54] <joshua> and im only a geek by default=no money
[12:54] <comic> why is it flaky
[12:54] <nics__> joshua: you have virtual screens on all the F keys with F7 running the X screen by default
[12:54] <_null> mwe, i'm going for it on my database and mail servers
[12:54] <Seveas> comic, if you need help, just state your problems. Pointless ranting gets you kicked
[12:54] <joshua> wow cool nics
[12:54] <comic> its a valid Q
[12:54] <ompaulelsewhere> comic, I find it to be stable it must be something your doing, so what do you want to achieve
[12:54] <omega_> anybody know if a dual core cpu will cause installatio nissues?
[12:55] <joshua> so ctrl-alt f7 open s x thats really neat
[12:55] <matitaccia> hello! I have tried installing ubuntu. I got this error message during the setting of the clock. Setting the system clock...
[12:55] <matitaccia> ata1: BUG: timeout without command
[12:55] <Seveas> omega_, not that I know of
[12:55] <ompaulelsewhere> omega_, it should not, have you got a specfic error you would like to discuss
[12:55] <comic> sure ok, from time to time the screen flickers with network traffic
[12:55] <matitaccia> the problem lies in the HDD (not in the clock... obviously)!.
[12:55] <omega_> I get x grahics issues when I try to run firm dvd or install to my dual core. on this machine it went fine.
[12:55] <Seveas> matitaccia, when exactly do you get that error
[12:55] <nics__> joshua: well technically it just takes you to that virtual console that happens to be running x
[12:55] <Seveas> comic, that's the network traffic applet I guess..
[12:56] <joshua> nics thats a nit tech heavy for my mind
[12:56] <joshua> bit
[12:56] <nics__> lol
[12:56] <comic> so its the OS then?
[12:56] <joshua> comic
[12:56] <togtog> #ubuntu.de
[12:56] <Seveas> togtog, #ubuntu-de you mean
[12:57] <ompaulelsewhere> comic, no it is something only you are seeing - suggest you start a terminal (applications accessories terminal) and run this command -->> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[12:57] <comic> I guess you get what you pay for with ubuntu
[12:57] <joshua> whoa nics that was coooooolll
[12:57] <joshua> li,e magic
[12:57] <kamva881> HI all
[12:57] <ompaulelsewhere> bye bye comic
[12:57] <ompaulelsewhere> Seveas, :-)
[12:58] <nics__> joshua: lol
[12:58] <Seveas> ompaulelsewhere, it's almost like you knew what was going to happen
[12:58] <kameron> well that was fun, kde _definitely_ crashed.'
[12:58] <Seveas> kameron, use gnome :)
[12:58] <ompaulelsewhere> Seveas, if you did not I would have had to ask someone :) you .....
[12:59] <joshua> im serious...i really want to comprehend how it does that
[12:59] <kameron> Seveas: it's so gross, and i've been using kde/flux since i started using linux when i was 15.
[12:59] <ompaulelsewhere> joshua, what highlight your name when it is spoken, that is a function of the client
[12:59] <joshua> my step dad lead a linux users group in houston...he passed away before giving me the linux grail
[12:59] <joshua> :(
[12:59] <Seveas> kameron, then use flux :)
[01:00] <kameron> Seveas: heh. i mostly use flux when i need to really buckle down and get to work. kde is for observing it's prettiness, websurfing, music, games, etcetera.
[01:00] <grodius> Hi how do I check my IP on my network as well as my router addy?
[01:00] <ompaulelsewhere> joshua, what exactly do you want to discover
[01:00] <nics__> joshua: the console driver treats each F key as a seperate login, i.e. as if you've logged in from multiple different machines, so all the sessions are independant from each other so you can leave something running on one screen and go to another to do something else
[01:00] <ompaulelsewhere> grodius, ifconfig
[01:00] <idp> hoffimar : in section "Screen" i have set Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[01:00] <idp>  but is not working
[01:00] <nics__> joshua: or you can just use X and do it all on one screen :-)
[01:01] <ompaulelsewhere> grodius, that will give you your ip
[01:01] <joshua> kindof a remote desktop ie 1234 on the task bar?
[01:01] <joshua> or virutal i should say
[01:01] <grodius> External or netowrk IP
[01:01] <grodius> im looking for my router addy
[01:01] <joshua> opaul im understating the magic of ctrl-alt-fkey land
[01:01] <matitaccia> Seveas, can you go private?
[01:02] <nics__> joshua: yes but idependant from each other, the virtual desktops in X are just an extention of your existing session, if you log out they all die
[01:02] <Seveas> matitaccia, no
[01:02] <Ng> grodius: ifconfig will show you your IP addresses, route will show you the default gateway IP
[01:02] <joshua> nics...ty im going to try the xorg config trick now
[01:02] <ompaulelsewhere> Seveas, catch ya later when I'm back at base
[01:02] <nics__> joshua: go for it
[01:02] <hoffimar> idp: i guess you have some subsections for every Depth, and above a DefaultDepth
[01:03] <matitaccia> Seveas, Filesystem seems mounted read-only. Skipping journal replay.
[01:03] <matitaccia> Checkin internal tre...finishe.
[01:03] <idp> yes. what should i do
[01:03] <Seveas> matitaccia, hmm, that's odd
[01:03] <Seveas> matitaccia, on what kind of filesystem did you install Ubuntu?
[01:04] <hoffimar> idp: so what is the line in the Display Section with your Default Depth? the one with 1024?
[01:04] <kameron> wtf, uboto hates me.
[01:04] <matitaccia> Seveas, yeah.  It's a reiser.
[01:04] <Seveas> kameron, ?
[01:04] <sQuare>  which is the easiest way to upgrade aMule 2.0.3 -> 2.1.0 under ubuntu ? (thx)
[01:04] <joshua> same error
[01:04] <kameron> SeveasL obotu i mean. and, he dislikes me.
[01:04] <joshua> reboot?
[01:04] <Seveas> kameron, what makes you think that?
[01:04] <nics__> joshua: reboot just to make sure everything is killed off
[01:05] <joshua> cigarette coffee reboot
[01:05] <hoffimar> idp: then maybe your graphic card driver doesn't support more. But you could install a new one. Did you just install ubuntu or is it an older installation?
[01:05] <idp> hoffimar : DefaultDepth    16
[01:05] <viviersf> sQuare, go to other room
[01:05] <matitaccia> seveas, Now it's stuck by "calculating module dependecies..."
[01:05] <viviersf> :P
[01:05] <Seveas> matitaccia, that can take a while on first boot
[01:05] <joshua> back in a bit...im loving the ubuntu community much more friendly than fedora crowd
[01:05] <aftertaf> sQuare:  compile from source i think. not in repos yet
[01:05] <kameron> Seveas: you sent me that link about the ubuntu/debian differences. and i tried to get him to "!tell kameron about debian" in a pm and he just makes fun of me!!
[01:05] <viviersf> sQuare, is there a more recent version in the repos ?
[01:05] <viviersf> yo aftertaf
[01:06] <Seveas> kameron, hehe, the private msg syntax is different
[01:06] <idp> hoffimar :  i change my monitor with another one
[01:06] <Seveas> just type debian
[01:06] <kameron> Seveas, ohh, how is it?
[01:06] <sQuare> in synaptic is always the 2.0.3
[01:06] <aftertaf> viviersf:  hi CainSA :] 
[01:06] <kameron> Seveas, dang, arlight, ty
[01:06] <joshua> rebooting
[01:06] <hoffimar> idp: scroll down to Subsection Display where it says Depth 16 and tell what the Modes line says
[01:06] <Seveas> kameron, and he can be quite rude indeed :)
[01:06] <matitaccia> Seveas, now it's the second boot. Please tell me, do you have any clue or not? Cause I'm having troubles with linux since somedays now...
[01:06] <kameron> Seveas: he has a foul mouth!
[01:06] <aftertaf> lol kameron
[01:07] <aftertaf> !good bot
[01:07] <ubotu> :)
[01:07] <Seveas> matitaccia, not really, never seen that error before. May be related to reiser which I don't use
[01:07] <kameron> lol, nice.
[01:07] <kameron> !bad bot
[01:07] <ubotu> no, you're a bad person kameron!
[01:07] <kameron> fucker!
[01:07] <Seveas> haha
[01:07] <aftertaf> loooool
[01:07] <Seveas> !stupid bot
[01:07] <ubotu> stupid seveas
[01:07] <matitaccia> Seveas, is possible for you to address me to someone which could know something more?
[01:08] <Seveas> matitaccia, just repeat the problem here in the channel
[01:08] <Seveas> or on the ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com list
[01:08] <matitaccia> Yeah... I'm going to ctrl paste the whole channel...
[01:08] <matitaccia> :(
[01:09] <lowman62> g'mornin room
[01:09] <GuIzZo> g'morning
[01:09] <g0ju> morning?
[01:09] <g0ju> (:
[01:09] <lowman62> g0ju good afternoon or evening for you?
[01:10] <GuIzZo> i'm lust wake up
[01:10] <lowman62> GuIzZo: I see that :)
[01:10] <g0ju> 1 pm in here
[01:10] <GuIzZo> :)
[01:11] <g0ju> -in
[01:11] <joshua> xserver-xorg not installed
[01:11] <lowman62> well good afternoon g0ju
[01:11] <g0ju> :)
[01:11] <nics__> joshua: apt-get install xserver-xorg ?
[01:11] <tristan> 1 pm here also
[01:11] <joshua> will try
[01:11] <tristan> joshua : sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ? (fixed)
[01:11] <lowman62> joshua: xserver-xorg not installed? did you do a server install?
[01:12] <joshua> no recent i386 iso
[01:12] <lowman62> and x did not install?
[01:12] <nics__> cheers tristan, alway forget that tricky sudo thingy
[01:12] <joshua> donka tristan (by the by im watching king arthur dvd tristan was a knight of the round table ;)
[01:13] <joshua> nics yup fedora only did the root
[01:13] <joshua> i learn something new every day with linux/gnu
[01:13] <joshua> wow pun
[01:13] <kameron> !how are you?
[01:13] <ubotu> kameron: eh, ok
[01:14] <joshua> learn something gnu with everyday with linux
[01:14] <nics__> lol
[01:14] <kameron> joshua: :P nice
[01:14] <lowman62> joshua: thank goodness for that huh? (RE: learning something new each day) or I would get bored LOL :P
[01:14] <joshua> yeah get board with gnu/linux
[01:15] <joshua> so before i do my sudo aptget  i should explain my plieght
[01:15] <lowman62> i think sometimes i deliberately break things just to figure a new and nifty way of fixing it
[01:15] <joshua> im trying to configure a mythtv kernel with ubuntu has this been done?
[01:15] <joshua> i get all my things broken
[01:16] <joshua> im the middle child
[01:16] <kameron> lowman62: i did that for a long time, until i lost a lot of date.
[01:16] <kameron> data
[01:16] <Tomcat_> lowman62: Ubuntu has so few drawbacks, more and more people are doing that. ;)
[01:16] <erico> hi, someone can help me? >D
[01:16] <joshua> mythtv?
[01:16] <kameron> what the problem is erico?
[01:16] <Tomcat_> !ask
[01:16] <lowman62> kameron that is what my file server is for <grins>
[01:16] <kameron> haha, lowman62
[01:16] <lowman62> Tomcat_ exacry!!
[01:16] <joshua> bueller?
[01:17] <lowman62> I am searching for an answer to your question joshua
[01:17] <kameron> erico: on a side note, a general rule in IRC is: don't ask to ask a question, just ask it. more effecient, wastes less space in channel, gods look kindly on it, reduces global warming, etc
[01:17] <Seveas> kameron, rofl
[01:17] <iNik> Hi, is there anyone available who knows a lot about networking, this question has been bothering me for ages!
[01:18] <kameron> ;)
[01:18] <lowman62> lol
[01:18] <erico> I had win in my pc... then I resolv to Install ubuntu... but, now I cant access win so...
[01:18] <GuIzZo> good bye everybody!!!
[01:18] <kameron> damnit inik, read up a bit
[01:18] <iNik> sorry
[01:18] <iNik> bad timing on my part, + i needed specific help on networking, but i'll ask
[01:18] <erico> during the install process, a mark the fat 32 was the boot loader... is this the problem?
[01:19] <kameron> erico: you want to put the bootloader on a fat32 drive? is that what you mean?
[01:19] <joshua> back too how to get display out of 640-400
[01:20] <lowman62> joshua: I found this may be helpful http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-24.html
[01:20] <iNik> if I was to setup a dedicated fw (one box dedicated as a firewall) is there any benefit (like additional security) in leaving my router in place or should I just directly connect my modem to one nic and my local network (switch) to other nic
[01:20] <nics__> joshua: get the xserver package installed
[01:20] <iNik> cos at first i thought maybe connect my router to my firewall, and then firewall connects to switch
[01:21] <lowman62> iNik: personally I would use that computer for something else...router is good enough but that is up to you
[01:21] <kameron> inik: it seems redundant. either use the router, or use a system as a router. it's a personal choice.
[01:21] <lowman62> iNik: is this for at home?
[01:21] <nics__> iNik: personal preference, I have my router in place as haven't the space for 'another' machine as a fw but still run local firewalls anyway
[01:21] <iNik> its just sitting there anyway, I could use additional security, yep its at home, it will support 3 PC's
[01:22] <erico> no... I put the bootloader on my fat32... and now... when I try to access the win98 on the grub dialog... the win don't begin
[01:22] <lowman62> iNiki: use it as a file server
[01:22] <kameron> inik: a router and local firewalls should be more than enough.
[01:22] <lowman62> iNik
[01:22] <iNik> i mean i can go 2 ways, either use ubuntu and Iptables or use a dedicated firewall distro such as ipcop, I'm still very new to linux but i should learn a bit whiechever method i use
[01:23] <erico> and in the fdisk status, my fat32 where the win is installed, is marked as no fat
[01:23] <kameron> hey, can you write on cd/dvds with pencils? i've tried about 10 pens and felts, and none work.
[01:23] <iNik> thing is, router doesnt offer traffic shaping, which sounds nice
[01:23] <kameron> omg, i bet a pencil would work!!ak sdkfnasd
[01:23] <nics__> iNik: I would certainly recommend playing with things like iCop to get an uderstanding of security
[01:24] <nics__> but don't overengineer your network
[01:24] <Dreamglider> anyone here use synergy  ?
[01:24] <lowman62> iNik: like i said it is a personal choice just seems redundant like kameron said...but it is a personal choice and well if it for the sake of edumacation i say go for it :)
[01:24] <JoeBlow> I installed quake 2 native,and i was able to run it from the installer fine, but now when i clock the icon, the window freezes up
[01:24] <iNik> true, then maybe i can setup a dual boot with ubuntu on a client
[01:24] <mcquaid> Hello, I only do I run X apps as root? I get this error cannot connect to X server :0.0
[01:24] <joshua> simple question....8mb in kilobytes
[01:24] <joshua> ?
[01:24] <mcquaid> i solved this before in debian sid, but can't remember how
[01:24] <Ng> joshua: 8*1024
[01:25] <Ng> or 8192 :)
[01:25] <joshua> ty
[01:25] <iNik> yep I think i will, cos i even made a small factor pc out of spare parts especially for the purpose, i gotta do something with it :P, its only a celeron machine but more then enough for what i need it for
[01:25] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I got hold of crossover pro yesterday ;)
[01:25] <mcquaid> and just to clarify i mean as root not via sudo
[01:25] <mcquaid> as sudo apps run fine
[01:25] <mcquaid> but i can't change file permissions with sudo
[01:25] <nics__> iNik: create a secure connection with your router, which you then leave alone as much as possible, and then play with dual boots etc, don't setup a system where you 'have' to reboot certain machines to get things done
[01:26] <Ng> mcquaid: you can with sudo chmod, surely?
[01:26] <JoeBlow> lowman62: whats that?
[01:26] <lowman62> mcquaid: you should be able to
[01:26] <rikai> later all , to bed with me o/
[01:26] <mcquaid> yes, but when i run a gui app like konqueror it doesn't let me
[01:26] <Ng> mcquaid: it's not an ideal solution, but you can run "xhost +" and root will have access, but you probably don't want to be running nautilus as root
[01:26] <iNik> nics_ , you  mean stick with basic router and dont setup dedicated box?
[01:27] <mcquaid> i understand normally i don't but right now i'm migrating some old home stuff from another box, and the userid was different
[01:27] <lowman62> JoeBlow: remember the wine thing yesterday? well I took someones advice about Crossover...brother that thing rocks...I have my Adobe Photoshop installed and am able to use it now...wine alone just puked on it...were you not trying to install a game yesterday?
[01:27] <mcquaid> so i want to change file permissions and bring them over
[01:27] <nics__> iNik: that would be my choice if you are going to be 'playing' with things like iptables and iCop, make sure the underlying network you have is stable and secure
[01:27] <JoeBlow> lowman62: how can i get it?
[01:27] <idp> hoffimar : my Admin working on it now btw where ican find gcc compiler is there's default installed with cd
[01:28] <Vernon_> did you have tried to use winamp linux alpha1 on ubuntu?
[01:28] <lowman62> JoeBlow: pm me
[01:28] <dsonc> hello! i started the process build of garnoome 2.13.4 on ubuntu 5.10 and some problems: the build stops and the message: cairosimple.c:82: undefined reference to `cairo_surface_write_to_png'
[01:28] <dsonc> , when ompiling pango-1.11.1
[01:28] <iNik> ah right, cos I read the quickstart guide on ipcops and it seems pretty straightforward to setup, I mean I do want all traffic going thru my main firewall, yep i think i'll go for it
[01:28] <kameron> mcquaid: do you want to just enable the root account and use it/
[01:28] <joshua> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i ran this now how do i test that display range is setup correctly?
[01:28] <mcquaid> it's already enabled
[01:29] <mcquaid> i just want root to be able to grab an X screen
[01:29] <kameron> mcquaid: "grab" ?
[01:29] <mcquaid> always get this running as root cannot connect to X server :0.0
[01:29] <mcquaid> sorry wrong terminology
[01:29] <kameron> mcquaid: running what as root? trying to log in as root, or running an X program?
[01:29] <mcquaid> i can login fine as root from a term
[01:29] <nics__> iNik: fair enough, you can always port forward traffic from your router if required, problem is when you decide to re-install the ipcop machine 2 months down the line and lose internet connectivity
[01:30] <WebLOCH> Does anyone fancy  helping me quickly with some permissions I changed by accident ?
[01:30] <JoeBlow> lowman62: ok
[01:30] <Dreamglider> i have installed synergy via synaptic and i downloaded and extracted quicksynergy, now when i do ./configure i get this -> http://pastebin.com/493190
[01:30] <mcquaid> if i launch an xterm do su to root, launch fooX it fails
[01:30] <joshua> in screen resolution window it still only allows for 640-400
[01:30] <hoffimar> idp: the gcc isn't installed by default as i remember, one has to install it, i think the name of the package is something like build-essential, but you can search for gcc in the forum i'd say
[01:30] <nics__> joshua: startx -- :1
[01:30] <joshua> reboot after sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:30] <joshua> ?
[01:30] <nics__> from command line or just killall gdm
[01:30] <nics__> or reboot :-)
[01:30] <hoffimar> it should be on the dvd though if u used that
[01:30] <WebLOCH> joshua, hit CTRL ALT BACKSPACE to logout of xwind0z
[01:30] <kameron> mcquaid: sudo gedit... does that work?
[01:30] <joshua> kk
[01:31] <mcquaid> yes that works fine
[01:31] <kameron> mcquaid: then i don't understand the problem?
[01:31] <idp> hoffimar : tq much.
[01:32] <mcquaid> well i was trying konqueror with sudo but still couldn't change file permissions
[01:32] <WebLOCH> Anyone got three minutes to give me a permissions output ?
[01:32] <mcquaid> trying with nautilus now to see
[01:32] <Hawk|-> Problem: rsync -Cavuz /home/user/data user@10.10.10.10:/data/0/backup --password-file="/home/user/pwdfile" does not work! I got a password request from rsync, I tried the path of pwd file in " " and ' ' nothing changed :2nd try
[01:32] <sebas_> who  close port 1026 and 1027 ?
[01:32] <lowman62> JoeBlow: you getting my pm?
[01:32] <joshua> display still lam 640-400
[01:32] <kameron> mcquaid: sudo nautilus works fine.. not for you though?
[01:33] <mcquaid> trying now
[01:33] <joshua> erg is it my second hand vid card or my second hand lcd monitor dsl did it too fedora got display right but sound and video were goofy
[01:33] <lowman62> mcquaid: do this .. > sudo nautilus & <--& seperates it from the process
[01:34] <lowman62> JoeBlow: you here?
[01:34] <nics__> joshua: hmmm I presume that your xorg.conf has got multiple modlines in? can try changing the defaultDepth to 16 from 24 as that sometimes helps
[01:34] <mcquaid> kameron, huh sudo works fine with nautilus
[01:34] <JoeBlow> lowman62: im not geting anythign new
[01:35] <lowman62> JoeBlow: what irc client are you using?
[01:35] <mcquaid> i'm in kde right now and i was trying sudo  kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[01:35] <kameron> mcquaid: then.. is there a problem.. or it's all good in the hood?
[01:35] <JoeBlow> lowman62:Xchat
[01:35] <Steve||> hey guys, how do i get complete access of my hdd's in ubuntu? before when i was using it, it said i was denied permission, but when i went through the administrator part, i was able to view it freely
[01:35] <mcquaid> but that won't allow you to change file permissions for some weird reason
[01:35] <j2daosh> what is up people? got a question... anyone have an up-to-date list of all the repos available?
[01:35] <JoeBlow> Steve||: hey bro, what file systems?
[01:35] <Steve||> ntfs
[01:35] <WebLOCH> !easysource
[01:35] <lowman62> JoeBlow: look at the bottom of your xchat you see a window tab open there?
[01:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:35] <JoeBlow> Steve||: alright go to terminal
[01:35] <joshua> hmmmm something is wierd in my xorg
[01:35] <Steve||> yeah
[01:35] <JoeBlow> lowman62:yea im in the tab
[01:36] <WebLOCH> j2daosh, use !easysource
[01:36] <j2daosh> !easysource
[01:36] <JoeBlow> Steve||: ok type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:36] <j2daosh> thank you web
[01:36] <WebLOCH> j2daosh, no probs
[01:36] <mcquaid> what i want is a gui means of changing file permissions, but nautilus still doesn't have change all files and subfolders...
[01:36] <kameron> Steve|| or sudo vi /etc/fstab, if nano isn't installed
[01:36] <JoeBlow> Steve||: ok got it
[01:36] <mcquaid> and it's not working in konq via sudo for some reason
[01:36] <lowman62> JoeBlow: send me an email here at jkh@cogeco.ca
[01:37] <Steve||> ok wait up
[01:37] <nics__> joshua: whats weird?
[01:37] <kameron> mcquaid: konq, as in konqueror? i just tried it, no problems.
[01:37] <j2daosh> WebLOCH, know what this means? "ubotu Someone already said that 22 seconds ago"
[01:37] <lowman62> JoeBlow: put JoeBlow in the subject line
[01:37] <JoeBlow> lowman62:got it
[01:37] <JoeBlow> Steve||: ok is it working?
[01:37] <mcquaid> well i was running konq as:  kfmclient openProfile filemanagement
[01:37] <joshua> i think i configured xorg correctly but my display option still only shows 640-400 it cuts everything off in half
[01:37] <mcquaid> which probably screwed something up
[01:37] <mcquaid> trying simply konq
[01:37] <Steve||> well i can't really check now, coz i'm on my windows partition atm lol
[01:38] <mcquaid> i was doing that to make it launch more in the file browser mode
[01:38] <JoeBlow> Steve||: oh, go into linux
[01:38] <WebLOCH> j2daosh, yeah it means I said it and he wants you to ready it
[01:38] <JoeBlow> Steve||: u have to do this in linux
[01:38] <WebLOCH> j2daosh,  ubotu For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:38] <JoeBlow> Steve||: u have to type that out, and then change some stuff in it
[01:38] <j2daosh> ready it?
[01:38] <j2daosh> oh ok
[01:38] <Steve||> ah ok
[01:38] <Steve||> what stuff do i have to change?
[01:38] <MKA> hi @ all
[01:38] <bull-dog> little problem again.... when i tryin' to ./configure VyqChat i have: "C compiler cannot create executables export"
[01:38] <WebLOCH> j2daosh, read sorry :P
[01:38] <j2daosh> thank you again
[01:39] <MKA> how can i user the bittorent client on ubuntu?
[01:39] <WebLOCH> j2daosh,  no problem, does the j2 in your nick denote java?
[01:39] <JoeBlow> Steve||: alright find the ntfs drive u want access to on the list, and use your arrow key to go where it says defualt
[01:39] <kameron> mcquaid: any luck?
[01:39] <nics__> joshua: want to mail to me at nics@sarginson.com I can take a quick look before I have to go
[01:39] <nics__> the xorg.conf file that is
[01:39] <JoeBlow> Steve||: now replace defaults with  umask=0222
[01:39] <JoeBlow> Steve||: got that so far?
[01:39] <pinucset> one think, i've installed qtparted ant ntfsprog can be dangerous resizing my windows ntfs partition?
[01:40] <joshua> nic will do
[01:40] <JoeBlow> lowman62:u get it?
[01:40] <Steve||> JoeBlow: sorry, i can't do anything atm because i'm on my windows partition and this is my only computer
[01:40] <Steve||> i'm writing down everythign though
[01:40] <JoeBlow> Steve||: ok come back when u get on linux
[01:40] <JoeBlow> Steve||: its a really quick fix
[01:40] <Steve||> i don't have the internet on linux actually :|
[01:40] <mcquaid> kameron, still trying my system is grinding away now, updatedb i think
[01:40] <Steve||> i don't know how to set it up
[01:40] <JoeBlow> Steve||: what! why not?
[01:40] <iNik> Sorry, back, I very much doubt it will require reinstalling, ipcop from what i'v seen is designed to be run 24/7, even updates are done via web interface, so downtime should be a minimum
[01:40] <kameron> mcquaid: okay
[01:41] <JoeBlow> Steve||: then whats the point of linux?
[01:41] <nics__> iNik: fair enough :-)
[01:41] <Steve||> well
[01:41] <Steve||> i just installed it JoeBlow
[01:41] <Badm4n> anyone here know about HTB ? like a CBQ ?
[01:41] <lowman62> JoeBlow: let me check now
[01:41] <JoeBlow> Steve||: yea me too, like 4 days ago, get ready for a crap load of learning, and always keep this room up in a window
[01:41] <MKA> no one can help?
[01:41] <Steve||> lol
[01:42] <JoeBlow> MKA: whats the problem?
[01:42] <kameron> MKA: what client is your favorite? many are supported by linux.
[01:42] <iNik> Thanks for all your help guys, C ya soon :)
[01:42] <Steve||> how do i install hardware? a wireless usb lan card, to be specific
[01:42] <kameron> JoeBlow: he wants to run bt in ubuntu
[01:42] <MKA> i dont understand how to start bittorent
[01:42] <JoeBlow> kameron: doesnt that come pre-installed in all the new versions?
[01:42] <iNik> azureus is what i use, + its supported
[01:42] <kameron> JoeBlow: yes
[01:43] <MKA> ist the gnome bittorent is was already installed on ubuntu by installing OS
[01:43] <mixandgo> where can I find glibc ?
[01:43] <MKA> @ JoeBlow
[01:43] <joshua> sudo tar xvzf name.tar.gz then what?
[01:43] <kameron> MKA: yes, you can use that one, or use another one.
[01:43] <JoeBlow> MKA: at the top, applications > internet > bittorrent
[01:43] <MKA> yes but i wann start
[01:43] <kameron> MKA: start what?
[01:43] <dotchad> anyone here uses 7zip to unpack .rar files?
[01:43] <MKA> bittorrent
[01:43] <MKA> but i need an matafile
[01:43] <JoeBlow> MKA: try www.bittorrent.com , whenu click a .torrent file, it should automaticalls use bittorrent
[01:44] <kameron> MKA: do you know the process of how bt is used?
[01:44] <MKA> metafile
[01:44] <JoeBlow> MKA: when u download a .torrent, thats the meta file
[01:44] <MKA> no i dint know kamerin
[01:44] <MKA> hmmn so where to get these files?
[01:44] <JoeBlow> MKA: when u need to use it, it will automatically work for you
[01:44] <kameron> MKA: they're all over the web, for example:
[01:44] <JoeBlow> MKA: commonly, most things u get off the net for linux are now in torrent format
[01:44] <MKA> aha so in jusst ned the .torrent file
[01:44] <dotchad> or, what do you use for unpacking .rar files?
[01:45] <JoeBlow> lowman62:I didnt get the e-mail, did u get mine?
[01:45] <docta_v> dotchad: unrar
[01:45] <kameron> MKA: http://www.ubuntulinux.com/download there you can get torrents for the distros. that's the "meta file" for bit torrent, the program
[01:45] <JoeBlow> MKA: yep
[01:45] <MKA> ahhaaa know i understood
[01:45] <MKA> ok thx
[01:45] <dotchad> thanks
[01:46] <JoeBlow> kameron: u see that, i was asking the same questions 2 days ago, and now here i am helping out, hopefully with karma that will help me with my next q, lol
[01:46] <kameron> MKA: the torrent file gives information about the tracker (the thing that keeps track of leechers and seeders), and has the file size, etc. the torrent file in turn passes information about the specific file you want, and bit torrent (the program) downloads it.
[01:46] <kameron> JoeBlow: :P good stuff man.
[01:46] <JoeBlow> kameron: Its just my fucking windows games that give me trouble in linux
[01:46] <JoeBlow> kameron: I might end up just dual botting into windows for them
[01:47] <kameron> JoeBlow: it's a fine art, running windows games in linux. wine is no cake walk.
[01:47] <docta_v> JoeBlow: are you using cedega?
[01:47] <JoeBlow> docta_v: no, native installs
[01:47] <kameron> JoeBlow: i dual booted for years, but just today wiped out my windows partition, and am forcing myself to get CS:S running in linux this weekend :P
[01:47] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I got it..just give a minute or so I am putting something up on my website that is to big to send by email then I will send you the url
[01:48] <JoeBlow> lowman62: sweet
[01:48] <docta_v> hmmm...cedega works great from what i understand
[01:48] <lowman62> JoeBlow: sweet is right ;)
[01:48] <JoeBlow> docta_v: I installed quake 2, and after the loki installer did it, i did the start button, worked fine, then i closed it, went to the dir, clicked the icon, and it freezes now
[01:48] <JoeBlow> kameron: half life 2 code just froze up my computer to much
[01:48] <kameron> JoeBlow: damn. i might not have much luck then.
[01:49] <lowman62> JoeBlow: about 6 minutes
[01:49] <JoeBlow> kameron: I would love to be able to play cs:s , but every 10 minutes it freezes for me on windows, tha was the idea with going to linux, seeing if it would make it more stable
[01:49] <joshua> simple question regarding what to do with your tar xvzf file when it has no text describing install...
[01:49] <kameron> joshua: hmm?
[01:49] <JoeBlow> lowman62: K, i need a smoke real fast
[01:49] <joshua> i untared it now what?
[01:49] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i just want to share some files between my laptop and desktop, both on breezy, read this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpNFSHowTo and it sounds mightily complicated, does it not get any simpler??
[01:50] <Steve||> anyone?
[01:50] <kameron> JoeBlow, that's interesting, hopefully it will work out for you. we'll both be attempting the same project! keep me up to date, kay/
[01:50] <lowman62> JoeBlow: me too
[01:50] <GURT> i wish ubuntu had an application that creates .torrent files
[01:50] <Steve||> i've got the driver for my wireless lan card, but i don't know how to install it
[01:50] <kameron> joshua: you untarred it, now what format is it in?
[01:50] <camer0ff> ls
[01:50] <kameron> GURT: there is one
[01:50] <mcquaid> kameron, no i still get an error
[01:50] <GURT> what is it?
[01:50] <joshua> kameron: in terminal
[01:51] <joshua> it has a huge list of files
[01:51] <camer0n> ls
[01:51] <kameron> GURT: no idea. try 'apropos torrent' or something. i know it's possible though.
[01:51] <camer0n> sorry
[01:51] <JoeBlow> lowman62: ya
[01:51] <GURT> heh
[01:51] <JoeBlow> kameron: ya
[01:51] <kameron> joshua: so it's extracted then.. you're done.
[01:51] <erUSUL> Steve||, what model of wireless card do you have?
[01:51] <joshua> i dont have to make or configure?
[01:51] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m,  do you want to access them from both ? or do you want to backup the files
[01:51] <Steve||> well its a NE-WUSB V2
[01:52] <kameron> joshua: what program is it?
[01:52] <Steve||> but when i looked it up, a site showed me to an Atmel driver
[01:52] <erUSUL> Steve||, does the driver come in tar.gz or tgz form?
[01:52] <Steve||> atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2
[01:52] <joshua> astrolog5.20
[01:52] <joshua> astrolog-5.20
[01:52] <kameron> joshua: i've never used it before, don't know what it is. have you consulted documentation.. online, or man?
[01:52] <joshua> cant find documentation on install only use
[01:53] <kameron> GURT: 'btmakemetafile'
[01:53] <joshua> it's a famous astrology program
[01:53] <kameron> i guess so, i'm not much of a meteorologisy myself joshua :P
[01:53] <GURT> thanks
[01:53] <JoeBlow> k im back
[01:54] <kameron> GURT: i don't know what that is, but it's worth looking in to
[01:54] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- I guess I'd like to move files both ways, yeah
[01:54] <joshua> arg
[01:54] <Steve||> erUSUL: is that format good enough?
[01:54] <erUSUL> Steve||, do tar xvjf  atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2
[01:54] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- but if i could do everything from the laptop that'd be fine
[01:54] <GURT> nah its perfect
[01:54] <joshua> untarred>make> $nameofprogram shazzam your using program?
[01:54] <kameron> GURT: good :)
[01:54] <Steve||> erUSUL: sorry, i'm actually on my windows partition at the moment and this is my only computer
[01:55] <Steve||> but i'm writing everythign down
[01:55] <Steve||> so if i copy down everythign i'm guessing it should be fine
[01:55] <Steve||> so after i type that down what do i do next erUSUL?
[01:55] <joshua> more sugar itsd gonna be a long one my display is still alll goofy
[01:56] <Hawk|->  sexcopter8000m , you can do a rsync between the pc's, but then you have the files on both maschines. other way would be some samba shares
[01:56] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- can you use samba between two linux machines?
[01:56] <erUSUL> Steve||, enter the directory
[01:57] <Steve||> yeah
[01:57] <erUSUL> and read the README and INSTALL file
[01:57] <Syrus> anyone know more specifically what the wireless networking improvements in dapper drake will be?
[01:57] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, sure , smbmount or mount, it works both ways, just read the man pages
[01:58] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- i had trouble setting up samba an earlier time, see the highlight of this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=Q:%20I%20don't%20have%20a%20'Windows%20Networking'%20section,%20only%20Hostname%20and%20Domain-name.%20What%20do%20I%20do%20now?
[01:58] <lemics_> does anyone know how to make an wireless/usb dlink device work on a ppc and ubuntu
[01:58] <sexcopter8000m> oops sorry about the paste guys
[01:58] <Seveas> lemics_, probably not at all
[01:59] <Steve||> erUSUL: i'm guessing those files are the ones in the driver package?
[01:59] <Steve||> because i can actually only see a readme file
[01:59] <kameron> lemics_: i was going to say the same as Seveas.
[01:59] <lemics_> @seveas why not ?
[01:59] <Seveas> lemics_, afaik it needs ndiswrapper, hence 386 only
[02:00] <lemics_> i tried with linux-wlan-ng but the prism2_usb module doesn't work
[02:00] <erUSUL> Steve||, that's the one you need to read
[02:00] <fatcow_> What ftpd do you recommend?
[02:01] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, mhh the highlight doesn't work for me
[02:01] <ubuntu_> lo
[02:01] <spacey_ki> fatcow_,  vsftpd
[02:01] <fatcow_> Got any good docs or guides for it as well?
[02:01] <Steve||> ok thanks
[02:01] <docta_v> fatcow_: the man page
[02:01] <Steve||> i'm off
[02:01] <Steve||> hopefully i can see you guys again :S
[02:02] <Steve||> bye
[02:02] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, ok, i found it
[02:02] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- about a third of the way down there's a question in triple-brackets saying "I don't have a windows networking section..."
[02:02] <Steve||> thanks for all the help
[02:02] <ubuntu_> please  can  anyone  tell  me  what  i need  for hardware  to  use  ubuntu, i mean  cpu  and  mem  and  space  on harddisk ?
[02:02] <fatcow_> k
[02:03] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I sent you an email ;)
[02:03] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, you don't need that. You can work with ip addresses as well
[02:03] <JoeBlow> lowman62:sweet
[02:03] <ubuntu_> i have  to know  what  the  min  spec  are  ?
[02:04] <lowman62> JoeBlow: yw ;)
[02:04] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, i never used the wins settings
[02:04] <Seveas> ubuntu_, a correctly working spacebar is one of the minimum specs
[02:04] <Hobbsee> hehe @ Seveas
[02:04] <ubuntu_> hehehe  sorry
[02:04] <JoeBlow> lowman62: ;)
[02:04] <Seveas> ubuntu_, and for gnome i'd say 2gb drive, 256 mem and 500 mhz is the minimum to let it run
[02:04] <Seveas> for fluxbox less
[02:04] <aeon17x> Aww, I think he can do with a double space bar.
[02:04] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, but your network is running? you can ping between ur 2 pc's
[02:04] <Seveas> and for an X-less system even less
[02:05] <ubuntu_> oke tnx   m8yt
[02:05] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- just a moment, the two machines in question aren't connected, i'll do that now :p
[02:05] <ubuntu_> bye  all
[02:05] <Seveas> ciao
[02:05] <lowman62> ubuntu_: make sure you have a decent network card...and nothing made for windows only LOL
[02:06] <ubuntu_> oke  tnx
[02:06] <kameron> bbl tea time
[02:08] <vk> ive installed wine with automatix, how to run it?
[02:09] <lowman62> vk: just run a windows executable and wine will launch it
[02:09] <Seveas> vk, automatix is crap
[02:09] <Seveas> !automatix
[02:09] <ubotu> I heard automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[02:09] <vk> seveas, yea i know, but im lazy :P
[02:09] <vk> tnx lowman62
[02:10] <lowman62> vk: better to use crossover
[02:11] <alexis_> y a t'il quelqu'un pourc m'aider?
[02:11] <erUSUL> !fr
[02:11] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:11] <alexis_> oki merci
[02:12] <erUSUL> alexis_, np
[02:12] <fatcow__> Hi
[02:15] <bull-dog> how can i switch from one ver. gcc to another?
[02:15] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m,
[02:15] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- just got them connected and pinging ok
[02:16] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, query
[02:16] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- not very savvy on networking, but i gave them each a 169.254.1.1 and .2 ip
[02:16] <sexcopter8000m> ok
[02:16] <Hawk|-> ss
[02:18] <raza> hello everyone
[02:18] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, ok did you installed samba on one pc?
[02:18] <lemics_> hi raza
[02:19] <joshua> someone help
[02:19] <Badm4n> why icant connect my yahoo messenger ( from client ) i use this rule : http://pastebin.com/493242
[02:19] <joshua> xorg is not allowing me to get out of 640-400
[02:19] <Hawk|-> joshua, ask
[02:19] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- i know it's installed on my laptop, but can't recall installing it on the desktop, i'll do that shall i?
[02:20] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m,  no you only need one smbd server
[02:20] <vk> how to uninstall skype?
[02:20] <joshua> i went through the config tried a few different settings, monitor kept telling me signal was out of range
[02:20] <sexcopter8000m> oh ok Hawk|-
[02:20] <RealJowi> vk: latest version is at Seveas' repos
[02:20] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, first you have to conifigure the /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:20] <RealJowi> !seveas
[02:20] <ubotu> well, seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:21] <lowman62> joshua: did you try lowering the refresh rate?
[02:21] <sexcopter8000m> joshua, what is the device driver for the graphics? if it's not vesa, try that
[02:21] <RealJowi> vk: sorry, UN install?
[02:21] <RealJowi> vk: apt-get remove skype
[02:21] <thazza> Hey all.. i am having xmms issues in breezy, can anyone help?
[02:21] <vk> Realjowi, sorry ive ment install, (thats for not sleeping enough) :P.. tnx
[02:22] <joshua> all i know how to do is dpkg--configure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <lowman62> vk: sudo apt-get remove skype
[02:22] <kameron> vk: speaking of skype, i picked up linux journal this month.. GREAT walkthrough on setting up a skype server (skypein and skype out) for use with the phone lines in your hours that are already wired in, too cool.
[02:22] <nics__> joshua: I'm back for a bit now, you want to mail me your xorg.conf file
[02:22] <kameron> house
[02:23] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, just like it is in the wiki example Section: Configuring your computer as a server
[02:23] <vk> kamonron :D
[02:23] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- shall i just work through the "Configuring.... heh, ok, i'll have a go with it then
[02:23] <joshua> in the xorg setup it auto detects lcd monitor i try to select 800-600  then i reboot and monitor will only ctrl.altf1 into term to reset dpkg xorg back to 640-400 is getting ubuntu to open up disply supposed to be this difficult?
[02:23] <faizan> hey.. does anyone have any links to a live webcast of the larry page keynote address tonight??
[02:24] <andrey_> privet jorik
[02:24] <thazza> Scrap that, looks like i am having Nvidea Segmentation faults.. Grrr. anyone can help?
[02:24] <joshua> nic how do?
[02:24] <jorik> who me ?
[02:24] <nics__> can you get off the machine?
[02:24] <joshua> yes i have a windoze box in another room
[02:25] <RealJowi> joshua: see if there are any refresh rates present in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. if there are, remove the horizsync and put 60 for VertRefresh
[02:26] <joshua> can i file manager to etc/x11/xorg.conf and manipulate file from there?
[02:26] <BigKahuna> a little of topic maybe but what the heck. Using an ubuntu live CD can you modify the admin password on an XP machine?
[02:26] <nics__> joshua: you could try making sure that only 1024x768 is selected when you get the option, i.e. the only one with an 'x' against it, then when its finished edit the xorg.conf and make sure that the defaultdepth is set to 16, what card and and spec is it you are using?
[02:26] <piratePenguin> does ubuntu have a tool for changing which init scripts are run at boot?
[02:26] <JoeBlow> how do i run an rpm file?
[02:27] <joshua> si card sdm51 sony lcd monitor
[02:27] <RealJowi> joshua: simplest solution "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" or "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (if you have X running)
[02:27] <lowman62> JoeBlow: are you talking about what i sent you ?
[02:27] <JoeBlow> lowman62: no, i havent used that yet
[02:27] <JoeBlow> im about to
[02:27] <joshua> joe blow -i name.rpm
[02:27] <ploom> hey
[02:27] <lowman62> JoeBlow: rpm -i foo.rpm
[02:27] <lowman62> JoeBlow sudo most likely
[02:28] <ploom> could I update my /etc/acpi/sleep.sh to stop and start alsa-utils??
[02:28] <joshua> lowman thnks
[02:28] <JoeBlow> lowman62: -bash: rpm: command not found
[02:28] <lowman62> joshua: yw...y? LOL :P
[02:28] <ploom> I mean what would happen, if later some package install would try to update /etc/acpi/sleep.sh?
[02:29] <lowman62> JoeBlow: sudo rpm -i foo.rpm
[02:29] <Badm4n> why icant connect my yahoo messenger ( from client ) i use this rule : http://pastebin.com/493242
[02:29] <JoeBlow> lowman62: sudo: rpm: command not found
[02:30] <JoeBlow> lowman62: do i need a package for it?
[02:30] <lowman62> JoeBlow: if that does not work then type "r" at the bash prompt and hit tab twice and when it asks if you want to view all say yes..and scroll through to see if rpm is listed
[02:30] <JoeBlow> lowman62: i foudn a package and now it works
[02:30] <RealJowi> better yet, "whereis rpm"
[02:30] <lowman62> JoeBlow: okay
[02:31] <lowman62> whereis is good too or slocate and 50 other ways to arrive at the same destination LOL :P
[02:31] <bull-dog> what can i do with "C compiler cannot create executables export" error if i already have build-essential???
[02:32] <lowman62> bull-dog: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17033
[02:34] <bull-dog> lowman62: thanx...
[02:34] <lowman62> bull-dog: yw :)
[02:34] <foampeace> hello
[02:34] <lowman62> hello foampeace
[02:34] <foampeace> how do you compile .pb purebasic files in linux?
[02:35] <lowman62> foampeace: one sec I will find that for you
[02:35] <foampeace> lowman62: i mean a ubuntu source if possible
[02:35] <megabytes> hi all. how can i get access 2 root privelages in ubuntu?
[02:35] <Anders> sudo
[02:35] <kameron> megabytes, sudo, like anders said
[02:35] <jenda> megabytes: sudo is good enough - use of real root is not recommended.
[02:35] <Blippe> why oh why does the wiki need a certificate for viewing?
[02:35] <laga> hello people! i'm trying to compile a kernel module (kqemu). it looks like i need some kernel headers, but 'linux-kernel-headers' is not the right package. what should i do now?
[02:36] <jenda> Blippe: It's a launchpad issue... no one knows :)
[02:36] <Tomcat_> laga: Get linux-kernel-headers-<yourversion>
[02:36] <kameron> jenda: i'm kind of disappointed that ubuntu came with such n00b protection. it may not be reccomended, but it's more appropriate in some instances.
[02:36] <foampeace> lowman62: thanks
[02:36] <RealJowi> ubotu, tell megabytes about sudo
[02:36] <lowman62> foampeace: google gave me this http://compile-error.butony.info/ let me know
[02:36] <megabytes> well i need 2 copy sum files for my modem installation into /usr/local/bin
[02:37] <jenda> kameron: mm... I never saw the need ... you can use sudo -i or something
[02:37] <Tomcat_> laga: Nah, linux-headers-<yourversion>
[02:37] <laga> Tomcat_: wow, that's weird. i only have one linux-kernel-headers. maybe my sources.list is broken
[02:37] <laga> Tomcat_: well, sounds good ;)
[02:37] <kameron> jenda: how is sudo -i any different than just being root?
[02:37] <alphy> anybody help with burning a DVD?
[02:37] <foampeace> lowman62: i dont see anything there
[02:37] <Tomcat_> kameron: It's not afaik
[02:37] <joshua> it says my Section "Screen"
[02:37] <joshua>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[02:37] <joshua>         Device          "Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) 630/730 PCI/AGP VG$        Monitor         "SDM-M51"
[02:37] <joshua>         DefaultDepth    24
[02:37] <joshua>         SubSection "Display"
[02:37] <joshua>                 Depth           1
[02:37] <joshua>                 Modes           "720x400" "640x480" "640x400"
[02:37] <joshua>         EndSubSection
[02:37] <joshua>         SubSection "Display"
[02:38] <RealJowi> joshua: do not paste here
[02:38] <jenda> joshua: DO NOT PASTE
[02:38] <JoeBlow> lowman62: ok dude im downloading it
[02:38] <joshua> sry
[02:38] <kameron> joshua: /topic
[02:38] <student> !tell joshua about paste
[02:38] <jenda> kameron: ah you're right...
[02:38] <student> joshua, read the message from ubotu
[02:38] <joshua> ubuntu only wants me in 640-480
[02:38] <Badm4n> why icant connect my yahoo messenger ( from client ) i use this rule : http://pastebin.com/493242 and my ubuntu's rc local http://pastebin.com/493270
[02:38] <lowman62> JoeBlow: okay let me know when you are done ;)
[02:39] <JoeBlow> lowman62:k, i need another smoke
[02:39] <alphy> any help burning a DVD?  please?
[02:39] <RealJowi> joshua: paste your xorg.conf in full in the pastebin
[02:39] <JoeBlow> alphy: tried GnomeBacker?
[02:39] <RealJowi> joshua, have you read the resolution fix?
[02:39] <lowman62> JoeBlow: me too :P
[02:39] <RealJowi> !fixresolution
[02:39] <ubotu> RealJowi: I give up, what is it?
[02:39] <RealJowi> !resolution
[02:39] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:40] <RealJowi> ah
[02:40] <laga> Tomcat_: aptitude says "No candidate version found for kernel-headers-2.6
[02:40] <joshua> real no
[02:40] <alphy> JoeBlow, well, I have K3b but I downloaded this huge file and I'm not sure what I need to burn.  Do I need to do it a special way?  never done this before
[02:40] <ploom> nice, thats why there is STOP_SERVICES= in the acpi-support file :-)
[02:40] <kokoko1> hi
[02:40] <RealJowi> joshua: check that link that ubotu spat out
[02:40] <veriz> why doesnt phppgadmin support php5 ? with apt-get...
[02:41] <Vernon_> alphy: is a normal file or an .iso?
[02:41] <lowman62> alphy: try this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#burn
[02:41] <docta_v> alphy: an iso file? yea that's what a cd image is
[02:41] <JoeBlow> alphy, sorry bro, but ive never burnt a dvd in my life
[02:41] <JoeBlow> lowman62: sh install-crossover-pro-5.0.0.sh ?
[02:41] <kokoko1> I heard about ubuntu server, do i have to download an ISO for server separatly OR typing "server" while installing ubuntu will do the same?
[02:41] <Tomcat_> laga: Search for kernel-headers and install the appropriate version...
[02:41] <RealJowi> kokoko1: just type "server"
[02:41] <kokoko1> okay thanks
[02:42] <alphy> docta_v,  I know this shouldn't be done here but, an example of the file typs are:  saw2-dev.r47  do I just burn these to a DVD?
[02:42] <lowman62> JoeBlow: ./install-crossover-pro-5.0.0.sh <--just like that and follow the instructs on your screen
[02:42] <lowman62> JoeBlow: no sudo
[02:42] <laga> Tomcat_: i did. i only get two results and both are not installable, only referenced by another package.
[02:42] <alphy> docta_v, there is 89 of those numbered files like that
[02:42] <docta_v> alphy: nope that's a rar file...need to extract it
[02:42] <docta_v> you can use unrar in linux to do it
[02:42] <docta_v> or winrar in windows
[02:43] <Vernon_> alphy: is a spanned rar file
[02:43] <lowman62> alphy: try this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#burn
[02:43] <megabytes> ahh :( there's no GART driver for the sis 661FX chipset!
[02:43] <JoeBlow> lowman62: it says i have to do it as root
[02:43] <deFrysk> !info unrar-nonfree
[02:43] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[02:43] <jenda> Hey... what's the most efficient way of reinstalling Ubuntu? I have a spare partition of 14 G...
[02:43] <alphy> docta_v, so I just extract each on of these and then burn them to a disk?
[02:43] <lowman62> JoeBlow: sudo chown youruser:youruser nameoffile
[02:44] <jenda> That is, to keep as much of the settings as possible
[02:44] <docta_v> you'll get either an iso or some video files
[02:44] <lowman62> JoeBlow: then chmod +x <name of file>
[02:44] <NotF> how can you play mp3 files in ubuntu?
[02:44] <JoeBlow> lowman62: it just gives me shit if down install it into root directory
[02:44] <JoeBlow> lowman62: i hate all this harddrive premission stuff
[02:45] <RealJowi> ubotu, tell NotF about mp3
[02:45] <Vernon_> alphy: unrar blahblah.rar
[02:45] <lowman62> JoeBlow: yu need to change the file ownership to your user profile
[02:45] <Tomcat_> laga: Weird.
[02:45] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I will send instructs by email
[02:45] <JoeBlow> lowman62: it just installs whatever windows prog u want
[02:45] <Vernon_> the files with numbers in extension are automagically handled by rar itself
[02:45] <JoeBlow> lowman62: yea that woudl be great
[02:45] <laga> Tomcat_: yep! my sources.list looks good and i did an aptitude update just to be on the safe side
[02:46] <lowman62> JoeBlow: that is what it does..and it grabs whatever dependencies are necessary...hold on instructs are on the way
[02:46] <JoeBlow> lowman62: k, can I use it for games?
[02:47] <alphy> Vernon, tried that said it wasn't a supported file type
[02:47] <noobie> morning all.
[02:48] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- still there? I tried, but didn't understand a lot of it, but in any case this happened in the terminal which seemed very odd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6682
[02:48] <noobie> need help with a wireless card and ubuntu
[02:48] <Vernon_> alphy: do you have an idea of what these files are?
[02:48] <paulproteus|lapt> noobie: Well, tell us what help you need.
[02:48] <joshua> 8mb in kb is?
[02:49] <sexcopter8000m> joshua 8*1024?
[02:49] <Vernon_> alphy: is there a files with an extension without numbers?
[02:49] <noobie> don't know how to make ubuntu turn the card on
[02:49] <deFrysk> jes
[02:49] <alphy> Vernon_,  I downloaded a torrent for a movie.  (I know, bad bad boy).  I got all these files and now I'm wanting to make the DVD.  how?
[02:49] <joshua> ty
[02:49] <noobie> it see it as hardware...
[02:49] <kameron> alphy: what files are they? vobs?
[02:49] <noobie> I have the windows driver files.
[02:49] <docta_v> he hasn't even extracted the rar yet
[02:49] <alphy> Kameron, one of them is....
[02:50] <noobie> it happens to be a broadcom wireless card
[02:51] <kameron> alphy: list the files for me
[02:51] <Vernon_> docta_v: if i remember right, the parts of a rar files are like file.001, not file.r01
[02:51] <lowman62> JoeBlow: you got mail
[02:51] <docta_v> Vernon_: can be either way
[02:52] <Vernon_> ok
[02:52] <alphy> Kameron, saw2-dev.r00 - saw2-dev.r89.  I open them and it has a .img file in there
[02:52] <JoeBlow> lowman62: kewl
[02:52] <Determinist> !w32codecs
[02:52] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:52] <Vernon_> alphy: maybe is better you download unrar from the rar site. the binary
[02:52] <alphy> Kameron, it goes from .r00 to .r89 with all them numbers in between
[02:53] <kameron> alphy: let's pretend it's called Free-movie.roo, that's what it's actually called right? i'm not helping you bootleg Saw 2, that was just an example?
[02:53] <Vernon_> alphy: oops, not unrar, rar for linux. the evil proprietary version of rar
[02:53] <JoeBlow> lowman62: can u access idsoftware.com its really giving me a hardtime
[02:54] <alphy> Kameron, well, yeah,  freemovie.r00 with zeros not o's
[02:54] <kameron> alphy: unrar the packages, and extract the img. then burn the img to a disc just like you would an iso, or mount it in a loopback under linux, and you'll be able to play it.
[02:54] <kameron> alphy: yeah, after i typed the oo's, i realized i meant to type 00's.
[02:55] <lowman62> JoeBlow: let me try..one sec
[02:55] <alphy> kameron, okay so I just burn all the img files on a dvd?  do I need to burn them any special way?
[02:55] <Despen> Can someone help? I want to install ScummVm 0.8.. but I have problems with dependeces.
[02:55] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: i can't. is still in "connecting"
[02:55] <kameron> alphy.. list the files WITHIN the rar file. what are they?
[02:55] <kameron> Despen: try installing with apt-get, it's a dependency solver.
[02:56] <lowman62> JoeBlow: slower than the second coming of christ ...still not loading yet :P
[02:56] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: same with me,i think its down, and right now i need the damn quake 2 binaries from it
[02:56] <alphy> Kameron, freemovie.img in every one of the files
[02:56] <JoeBlow> lowman62: i think its down
[02:56] <andrey_> can aby one help me?
[02:56] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I am on a t1...I think it is safe to say they are down
[02:56] <andrey_> can any one help me?
[02:56] <jenda> andrey_: shoot
[02:56] <JoeBlow> anyone know how to set up qemu on ubuntu to run windows xp in a window
[02:57] <lowman62> andrey_: sure if i can..what is it?
[02:57] <andrey_> I install fresh ubuntu
[02:57] <deltron> !xubuntu
[02:57] <ubotu> hmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[02:57] <andrey_> I have two Net Cards
[02:57] <lowman62> andrey_: fresh ubuntu be good
[02:57] <andrey_> one - to Internet
[02:57] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: do you must also install it?
[02:57] <alphy> kameron, so what do I do?
[02:57] <andrey_> second to local network
[02:57] <lowman62> andrey_: two nic cards can be conffrusing
[02:57] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: xp, not qemu
[02:58] <kameron> alphy: do you know how to extract rar files?
[02:58] <JoeBlow> vernon_: how do i do it?
[02:58] <oNe^somewhere> can some1 tell me how to update amsn the easy way plz ???
[02:58] <alphy> kameron, yeah, but, all the files are named the same
[02:58] <oNe^somewhere> to the new version
[02:58] <JoeBlow> vernon_: i want to run windows within linux
[02:58] <lowman62> andrey_: what are you doing with the other?
[02:58] <RealJowi> andrey_: you want to share your inet connection?
[02:58] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: ok. windows is actually installed in any partition of your harddrive?
[02:59] <andrey_> There is no ping  by name to other computers in lokal network
[02:59] <Despen> kameron: But I can only find version 0.71 if I use apt-get
[02:59] <alphy> Kameron, are they all just pieces of 1 file?
[02:59] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: *is windows actually...
[02:59] <RealJowi> andrey_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ShareInternetConnection
[02:59] <kameron> alphy: i know. the way rars often work, is one file is split up into many others, and then packaged in a .zip or something. very common. just extract the .img from any one of them, and it will extract each piece from each rar file, and you'll have one .img
[02:59] <kameron> alphy: exactly
[02:59] <JoeBlow> vernon_: yea
[02:59] <andrey_> ok thanks
[02:59] <thazza> Just wanted to say.. I fixed the problem myself.. and no it was not in any forums or any google searchs.
[03:00] <thazza> Was a major Nvidia driver issue
[03:00] <JoeBlow> vernon_: but i want to reinstall it anyway to 32 bit windows
[03:00] <kameron> Despen: apt-get install it, it will isntall all dependencies, then uninstall the package, and install the recent one! it's one way of doing things. assuming the dependencies between versions is the same.
[03:00] <alphy> kameron, so I just extracted each one of them into a folder and it will put it's self back together and then burn that file on a disk and magically I have a movie on DVD?
[03:00] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, take a look into /etc/init.d if there ist a smb or samba script
[03:01] <kameron> !dpkg
[03:01] <kameron> !tell Despen about dpkg
[03:01] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: imho, is better to install windows in the native way, without qemu. installing xp with qemu takes more than 4 hours, on my machine
[03:01] <kameron> or, you can install all the packages in a string together. Despen
[03:01] <lowman62> JoeBlow: do you have more than one computer?
[03:01] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, if not i think your samba is nor installed correctly
[03:01] <kameron> alphy: no, just extract one of them to a folder. each piece will be automatically extracted from each rar.
[03:02] <JoeBlow> lowman62: no
[03:02] <Despen> kameron: Ah, ok.. thanks
[03:02] <JoeBlow> vernon_: can i install windows native and then run it as a window within ubuntu
[03:02] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: yes, with qemu
[03:03] <JoeBlow> vernon_: ok how do i do it=
[03:03] <lowman62> JoeBlow: bummer...what i did before was use citrix and pull my windows desktop up within a browser in linux...the best of both worlds
[03:03] <Noriega> how do I change specific keys in my keyboard layout?
[03:03] <JoeBlow> vernon_: but i cant do that with one computer?
[03:03] <JoeBlow> lowman62: but i cant do that with one computer?
[03:03] <lowman62> JoeBlow: nah! you need at least two...or in my case am not happy unless I have 12 LOL :P
[03:04] <Noriega> I want altgr+c to be  in stead of , where can I change this?
[03:04] <JoeBlow> lowman62: damn
[03:04] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: you can. install windows then back to linux. "qemu -hda /dev/hda1"
[03:04] <sexcopter8000m> Hawk|- no samba or smb, what is it to reinstall, sudo apt-get <something> samba?
[03:04] <lowman62> JoeBlow: actually I own more than that..just have 12 setup at the moment
[03:04] <kameron> despen, what i mean by installing them all in a string, is like this: 'sudo dpkg --install foo.deb bar.deb example.deb other.deb etc.deb'
[03:04] <JoeBlow> lowman62: u must be rich
[03:05] <lowman62> JoeBlow: nope not rich...just get a lot of computers from people that bought new ones..I take the old rickety windows beaten junk and fix it and install linux and voila it becomes part of my network ;)
[03:06] <kameron> lowman62: ditto. i have 6 running atm. all old junkers brought back to life by linux.
[03:06] <lowman62> <--neighborhood computer repair guy
[03:06] <JoeBlow> lowman62: sweet
[03:06] <kameron> lowman62, well, all but my main one that i'm on now.
[03:06] <Vernon_> lowman62: dummy says "this computer is obsolete"
[03:07] <lowman62> kameron: me too...this one i am on is my baby..brand spankin new custom built by moi ;)
[03:07] <Vernon_> lowman62: are they an openmosix cluster?
[03:07] <JoeBlow> lowman62: I run,  qemu -hda /dev/hdb1
[03:07] <JoeBlow>  , and it says warning: could not open /dev/net/tun: no virtual network emulation
[03:07] <JoeBlow> qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/hdb1'
[03:07] <kameron> lowman62: i built mine in june, so it's fairly new
[03:07] <Jowi> !qemu
[03:07] <ubotu> qemu is, like, an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[03:08] <lowman62> Vernon_: I just have them set in groups of 4
[03:08] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: have you windows in the first partition of your primary slave?
[03:09] <lowman62> oh i forgot i have a beaten up xbox I use as my web development server...that is where you downloaded from JoeBlow ;)
[03:09] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, yea
[03:09] <JoeBlow> lowman62: thats pretty fucking cool
[03:09] <Despen> kameron: Still problems... scummVM 0.80 wants libflac6, I have libflac7 installed..
[03:09] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, I run linux on my sata drive
[03:10] <kameron> Despen, haha... that sucks. hmm. i'll have a look for you.
[03:10] <j2daosh> hey... anyone know how to set the auto identify option with nickserv? and i also have a question concerning adding programs to my programs list in the gui...basically all i have to do is install the prog and then if it doesn't show up go to my /usr/bin/, find it there and create a target path link right?
[03:10] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, windows crashes so much on new hardware, i wouldnt waste my fast harddrive on it
[03:10] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: maybe you must use sudo, to have the rights to use the device
[03:10] <lowman62> JoeBlow: it is not the prettiest stuff in the world in fact half the stuff I have has no covers on it and wires all over the place LOL
[03:10] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: that fixed it
[03:11] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: works?
[03:11] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: a window popped up telling me booting from harddise
[03:12] <lowman62> brb coffee & smoke break
[03:12] <lowman62> ;)
[03:12] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: is it supposed to take so long to boot form the harddrisk
[03:12] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: its 64 bit windows, i betcha it wont even run over 32 bit linux
[03:12] <fyrzen> dam system just went haywire on me
[03:13] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: i don't now if qemu emulates 64 archs
[03:13] <fyrzen> compositing + Nvidia drivers 8178 = unstable
[03:13] <JoeBlow> what i like about living in europe is hand rolled ciggarettes, when i did that in america, ppl thought i was smoking a joint lol
[03:13] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, apt-get remove samba and then apt-get install samba , dont know how to repair a paket
[03:13] <kameron> i'm new to deb, alway used rpm.. how do you search with apt-get?
[03:13] <Despen> kameron: Thanks again...
[03:13] <deltron> dpkg-reconfigure samba
[03:14] <kameron> like.. what's the equivilant of "urpmi --fuzzy"  if anyone knows what i mean.
[03:14] <kameron> yeah, no prob Despen. still looking.
[03:14] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: is it possible to run the windows installation within ubuntu?
[03:14] <Jowi> kameron: apt-cache search name, or apt-cache search --names-only name
[03:15] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: yes.
[03:15] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: I really hate having to manually reset grub after installing windows
[03:15] <lowman62> kameron: that is a good question...let me hunt for that one i would like to know that myself
[03:15] <kameron> ty Jowi
[03:15] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: where do you live, actually?
[03:15] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: germany
[03:15] <kameron> lowman62, refer to Jowi
[03:15] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: for 7 months now
[03:15] <mwe> qemu is dead slow for me, to the point of being unusable. even with kqemu
[03:15] <lowman62> Jowi: coolies ty
[03:15] <Jowi> kameron: you can also add several keywords "apt-cache search --names-only gtk dev"
[03:15] <kameron> okay, cool.
[03:15] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: my ubuntu disk came from swedan i think, it came damn fast
[03:15] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: i'm quite near. and i'm escaping from there :D
[03:16] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: my ubuntu disk came from swedan i think, it came damn fast
[03:16] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: where are u at?
[03:16] <Vernon_> sudtirol
[03:16] <_xet> Whats the name of the app that is like mac os x menu?
[03:16] <Vernon_> (italian?) alps
[03:16] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: where are u at?
[03:16] <Vivid-DE> Hi everybody
[03:17] <Jowi> hi Vivid-DE
[03:17] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: sudtirol
[03:17] <kameron> Despen: libflac6 isn't in repositories. you sure it won't work with 7
[03:17] <JoeBlow> Vernon_: where is that?
[03:17] <Vivid-DE> it is in austria Joe!!!
[03:17] <JoeBlow> ohh ok
[03:17] <mwe> Jowi: do you always use long options, like --names-only instead of -n ?
[03:17] <ves_> Hi, there could somebody URGENTLY help me? :( I ctrl+c'd during a make install by accident and it has totally destroyed my pc, typing 'ls' 'cd' etc gives a persmission denied, and after reboot it wont even log me in
[03:17] <JoeBlow> i was gonna go visit nimbdin this summer
[03:17] <quiet> apt-get install build-essential says can't stat package?
[03:17] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: alps, in italy. 40km to brenner, osterreich
[03:18] <Vivid-DE> Vernon, du sprichst deutsch?
[03:18] <Jowi> mwe: nope, but it's nice to know where the short options come from.
[03:18] <JoeBlow> vernon_, ive never been to italy, but i would like to visit it
[03:18] <mwe> Jowi: yeah i gues it is
[03:18] <JoeBlow> vernon_, sister in law really likes it
[03:18] <Vernon_> nein Vivid-DE . i sprache italienish and a bit of english
[03:18] <Jowi> mwe: and easier to remember when using different apps that both use -s that mean opposite things ;)
[03:18] <JoeBlow> sprachst du duetsch?
[03:19] <lowman62> I would love to visit germany...i heard it is cool as can be there
[03:19] <bitkid_> hi
[03:19] <ves_> Anyone? :///
[03:19] <bitkid_> can anyone help me please with an openvpn problem with ubuntu?
[03:19] <JoeBlow> vernon_, ok , so how do i install windows within ubuntu?
[03:19] <Vernon_> i was in germany for oktoberfest. very cool :D
[03:19] <Jowi> mwe: and if i'm using sudo it is a much safer bet for me, since my memory sucks.
[03:19] <Vivid-DE> A question to everybody: Is it possible, to make active desktops in ubuntu?? So I can see the how much my processor is working and things like this???????
[03:20] <JoeBlow> vernon_, I was their for new years, i drank 3 german beer, and a whole bottle of italian wine
[03:20] <Tomcat_> Vivid-DE: There's gdesklets
[03:20] <lowman62> Oktoberfest would rock...i loves my beer
[03:20] <JoeBlow> german beer is really great
[03:20] <trappist> Vivid-DE: you want gkrellm
[03:20] <squirrelpimp> Vivid-DE: and gkrellm and adesklets
[03:20] <JoeBlow> mostly Pils
[03:20] <squirrelpimp> Pils rox
[03:20] <squirrelpimp> but Premium Pils even more
[03:21] <Vivid-DE> @squirrelpimp: is gkrellm and adesklets priceless??
[03:21] <lowman62> JoeBlow: can you get black and tans there?
[03:21] <Jowi> *slightly* offtopic, but Irish beer rule. I'm talking real beer here, not lager.
[03:21] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: qemu -hda /dev/hdb1 -cdrom /dev/cdrom -boot d
[03:21] <mwe> do you gues actually find qemu usable? for me it's so slow I gave up using it even with kqemu
[03:22] <lowman62> Jowi: if you are talking about beer ..as far as I am concerned you are on topic :P
[03:22] <JoeBlow> lowman62: most of the beer is black, aged one to two years
[03:22] <Vernon_> german beer is very light, i don't like it so much. better netherland, danish and irish imho
[03:22] <squirrelpimp> Vivid-DE: what do you mean by priceless???
[03:22] <Jowi> mwe: just installing win98se with it now. amasingly slow. never did get kqemu to compile at all (used the wiki). i've yet to see if it is usable. have to wait until the install is done.
[03:23] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I love beer..dark beer that most would think was nasty...I love it..black and tans rock
[03:23] <AndyL> hi all
[03:23] <Hawk|-> Vivid-DE, gkrellm is opensource
[03:23] <Jowi> mwe: tried to install Zeta RC3 that didn't work at all.
[03:23] <AndyL> does anyone remember how to get a wireless nic configured in MS Windows Me?
[03:23] <JoeBlow> lowman62: I prefer black too, but with good ole candy, lol
[03:23] <JoeBlow> lowman62: we eat it with like gummy bears and shit
[03:23] <Jowi> lowman62: Mmmm, oh yeah. stop it now or I have to go to the shop.
[03:23] <Syruss> AndyL: #windowsme
[03:23] <Syruss> :/
[03:23] <lowman62> JoeBlow: knows what you mean LOL
[03:23] <Hawk|-> AndyL, what is WindowsMe?
[03:23] <blue-frog> AndyL, try windows channel
[03:24] <JoeBlow> lowman62: Becks is a good introductory german beer
[03:24] <lowman62> AndyL: yes I do...install winxp...:P
[03:24] <JoeBlow> lowman62: Before u go dark
[03:24] <Syruss> select clue from people;
[03:24] <Syruss> :/
[03:24] <bitkid_> i will tell you about austrian beer, if you help me afterwards with openvpn ;)
[03:24] <AndyL> lowman62, lol
[03:24] <docta_v> AndyL: you need to install whatever utility the vendor provides for that
[03:24] <kameron> you guys have it all wrong. canadian beer or bust.
[03:24] <deltron> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:24] <AndyL> the driver is installed, it the network config I can't remember
[03:24] <JoeBlow> but qemu will not work with games
[03:24] <lowman62> kameron: I am CANADIAN :D
[03:25] <docta_v> AndyL: i said utility not driver
[03:25] <JoeBlow> lowman62: ever get any good BC Bud
[03:25] <lowman62> kameron: I just live in savannah
[03:25] <ves_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=632618 :(
[03:25] <kameron> lowman63: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:25] <lowman62> JoeBlow: nah! I quit that stuff when I moved to the states...they do pee tests so..I had to grow up :P
[03:25] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: use cedega for games, not any VM!
[03:26] <lowman62> sorry kameron...back on topic
[03:26] <imrabti> Hello
[03:26] <imrabti> My firefox is very Slow In Ubuntu
[03:26] <imrabti> can Any one Help
[03:26] <imrabti> Please
[03:26] <kameron> lowman62: it's cool, just saying.. let's chat in offtopic!
[03:26] <Vernon_> imrabti: search in google "firefox turbo"
[03:26] <lowman62> kameron ;)
[03:26] <JoeBlow> vernon_, Id like to just native install, but the binary i need's server is down
[03:26] <imrabti> i've 512 Mo in RAM
[03:27] <imrabti> and Pentium III 850 MHZ
[03:27] <JoeBlow> vernon_, I had trouble with cvscedega
[03:27] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: network troubles?
[03:27] <JoeBlow> vernon_, when i go to load a profile, it says authintication error
[03:27] <imrabti> Please can anyone Help
[03:27] <lowman62> imrabti: I have never heard of that problem...anyone in here hear of this?
[03:28] <JoeBlow> vernon_, ever hear of that?
[03:28] <imrabti> he make slow my gnome desktop slow
[03:28] <lowman62> imrabti: when you say slow do you mean slow to start?
[03:28] <imrabti> no
[03:28] <imrabti> slow to use
[03:28] <kameron> imrabti: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[03:29] <lowman62> imrabti what version is it?
[03:29] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: when i was in trouble i haved reinstalled it ex novo
[03:29] <imrabti> It load rapidly the Web Page
[03:29] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, ex novo?
[03:29] <imrabti> but when i open a lot of Tab it becam slow
[03:29] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: like "brand new installation"
[03:29] <Sonderblade> i have changed my hostname with sudo hostname foobar, how do i change it back? sudo doesn't work anymore
[03:29] <imrabti> I've a 8 Mo of VRAM
[03:30] <ploom> Pentium III 500, 384 ram
[03:30] <imrabti> no
[03:30] <trappist> Sonderblade: reboot
[03:30] <JoeBlow> Vernon_ , ill try it
[03:30] <JoeBlow> Vernon_ , alright, im in windows setup
[03:30] <imrabti> Pentium II 850MHZ and 512 Ram and 8MO of VRAM
[03:30] <ploom> my firefox quite slow also...
[03:30] <Sonderblade> trappist: no other way?
[03:30] <lowman62> imrabti: hrrmm don't open so many tabs?
[03:30] <imrabti> It is a laptop PC
[03:30] <Vernon_> imrabti: maybe it is due to many jscripts in the webpages. it's normal
[03:30] <imrabti> Toshiba Satellite 1800-700
[03:30] <trappist> Sonderblade: when sudo quits working your options are pretty limited
[03:31] <imrabti> Perphaps
[03:31] <ploom> the 1.07 firefox...
[03:31] <imrabti> but
[03:31] <imrabti> Yes 1.07
[03:31] <lowman62> imrabti running ubuntu?
[03:31] <imrabti> Yes
[03:31] <TTilus> imrabti: update
[03:31] <imrabti> Yes
[03:31] <imrabti> updated
[03:31] <TTilus> imrabti: dist-upgrade  :)
[03:31] <imrabti> but i've only firefox 1.07 not 1.5
[03:32] <lowman62> imrabti: if you update first read the wiki on updating to 1.5 version of firefox...or you will have more problems than you got now
[03:32] <JoeBlow> Vernon_ , now i decided for games im just gonna run straight windows, how do i run linux in a window on windows?
[03:32] <markitoxs> hi everyone
[03:32] <imrabti> My CPU work 100% when i'm using firefox<
[03:32] <imrabti> That is the problem
[03:33] <trappist> imrabti: have you installed any extensions?
[03:33] <imrabti> it just like i'm running a 3 D game or something like this
[03:33] <markitoxs> i'm trying to read a windows recorded cdrom, but the file was "hideen" in windows, and i can't even see it,
[03:33] <imrabti> No
[03:33] <imrabti> any extension
[03:33] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: wmware, bochs. or install cygwin, a posix layer and gnu system on windows
[03:33] <lowman62> imrabti: I am not sure what would be causing that
[03:33] <markitoxs> anyideaS?
[03:33] <trappist> markitoxs: use the 'unhide' option in your fstab or mount command
[03:33] <imrabti> also in Kde i've the same problme
[03:33] <markitoxs> trappist, mount -unhide ?
[03:34] <trappist> markitoxs: mount -o unhide
[03:34] <lowman62> imrabti: try upgrading it but forst read the wiki on upgrading to 1.5
[03:34] <imrabti> I've the minimal requirememnt in my system
[03:34] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: you'll use, in example, ifconfig to change your windowsxp-box ip ;)
[03:34] <Jowi> imrabti: sounds nasty. how about trying another browser to see if there's any difference?
[03:34] <imrabti> Yes I'me using Galeon
[03:34] <JoeBlow> Vernon_ , so whats the easiest way to do it where I can access my current ubuntu system?
[03:34] <imrabti> il work perfectly fast
[03:34] <ves_> Sorry to repeat again, but could somebody URGENTLY help me? :( I ctrl+c'd during a make install by accident and it has totally destroyed my pc, typing 'ls' 'cd' etc gives a persmission denied, and after reboot it wont even log me in.
[03:34] <ves_> Will I need a reinstall or can it be saved?
[03:34] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: wmware, i suppose
[03:35] <markitoxs> trappist, how, cool, thx a lot
[03:35] <Jowi> ves_: what did you install?
[03:35] <blue-frog> ves_, what were u installing?
[03:35] <Despen> kameron: It might work with libflac7.. But How od I reconfigure so it tries to use libfalc7 instead of libflac6?
[03:35] <trappist> ves_: reboot, select rescue mode at the grub prompt.  it'll take you directly to a root shell, no login.
[03:35] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, alright
[03:35] <ves_> It was errr, banshee
[03:35] <kameron> despen:hmm. i'll look into that more for you. what's the program name called again? brb in a minute.
[03:35] <ves_> k
[03:35] <ves_> I'm on a live cd now, but I'll reboot
[03:36] <Despen> kameron: ScummVM 0.80
[03:36] <ves_> trappist: I think I've set my timeout so low I'm not getting a prompt
[03:37] <ves_> from grub, it just boots
[03:37] <lowman62> ves_: I did that once..was phun to say the least..rescue mode and chmod permissions
[03:37] <ves_> lowman62: oh thank god :)
[03:37] <ves_> everything get resolved?
[03:37] <lowman62> ves_: I am still using it now
[03:37] <ves_> that's good news
[03:37] <ves_> :)
[03:38] <lowman62> ves_: was brain salad surgery to fix it though :P
[03:38] <ves_> eugh :/
[03:38] <ves_> I can't even get into rescue mode, can I boot of a disk or something?
[03:38] <lowman62> brb phone
[03:38] <blue-frog> install disk type rescue
[03:38] <ves_> k
[03:39] <kent> is there any shortcut for minimizing a window in Gnome?  I know alt+f10 for maximizing it - but it would be nice with one to minimize it to the panel aswell.
[03:39] <blue-frog> alt F9
[03:40] <kent> blue-frog, thanks
[03:40] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, do i install my windows drivers into my qemu windows?
[03:40] <blue-frog> and alt F5 back to the state it was
[03:40] <NotF> hey, how do you burn a cd in ubuntu?
[03:41] <JoeBlow> NotF: get GnomeBaker from synaptic
[03:41] <DanglyBits> just downloaded dapper ubuntu flight2 and cannot get the network connection to work right...anyone know what the deal is with that?
[03:41] <NotF> ok, thanks
[03:41] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: no. you must use the virtual-emulated-hardware of qemu
[03:41] <Jowi> NotF: there are several ways. cdrecord (terminal) graveman is nice in X
[03:41] <Vernon_> a vga cirrus logic 4mb
[03:42] <ves_> ok I've hit the rescue prompt and most of my stuff still seems to be there
[03:42] <ves_> lowman62: any chance you remember what you chmod'd? :)
[03:42] <nics__> DanglyBits: make sure that it is enabled, everytime I install dapper it leaves the connection disabled on reboot
[03:42] <Micksa> okay, so
[03:42] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, what about when i boot straight to windows?
[03:42] <Micksa> anyone care to help me get cups set up to print to a SMB printer?
[03:42] <NotF> what kind of package do I need to use in ubuntu?
[03:43] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: a new hardware search
[03:43] <DanglyBits> nics__:how do i ensure its enabled?
[03:43] <jenda> !nvidia
[03:43] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:43] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, so when i use it with qemu just leave it alone, but when i boot straight install my drivers?
[03:43] <Jowi> !info graveman
[03:43] <ubotu> graveman: (graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3.12-4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 689 kB, Installed size: 2428 kB
[03:43] <nics__> DanglyBits: System->Administration->Networking
[03:43] <ves_> my systems uptime was like 2 months, too :/
[03:44] <podz> Hi, in xchat when I right click to 'Open in web browser' it's opening a terminal. Can someone tell me how to make it do what it says please ?
[03:44] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: drivers for your native hardware are installed. it will check and use it
[03:45] <Jowi> podz: try rightclick -> mozilla firefox -> your coice
[03:45] <DanglyBits> where can i find the latest Dapper 64bit install iso?
[03:45] <kameron> Despen: i just thought of a new idea. you can make a symbolic link to libflac7 from libflac6
[03:45] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: in other words, no need of reinstall drivers
[03:45] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, windows requires special drivers for my sound card tho
[03:45] <Jowi> podz: for me, both options work fine
[03:46] <ves_> everyones abandoned me :/
[03:46] <kameron> despen: install libflac7, then 'locate libflac' and find out where it is. and in the same directory, do this: 'ln -s libflac6 libflac7'
[03:46] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: forget to use multimedia stuff on qemu-ed windows
[03:46] <podz> Jowi, cheers that right-click, then select works :)
[03:46] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, argh, ok
[03:46] <kameron> ves_ never, what do youi need?
[03:46] <NotF> gayserver
[03:46] <NotF> gayserver
[03:46] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <kameron> NotF: stop
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <mustard5> !ops
[03:47] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[03:47] <kameron> NotF: please stop
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: maybe exist a sound wrapper but honestly i don't know about it
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <ves_> I destroyed my install by ctrl+c'ing during a make install, I've hit rescue prompt but not sure what to do next
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayserver
[03:47] <Vernon_> !ops
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayservergayserver
[03:47] <Jowi> ves_: maybe try to undo what you did :)
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayservergayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:47] <NotF> gayserver
[03:48] <ves_> Jowi: how'd you mean try and make install again fully?
[03:48] <NotF> gayserver
[03:48] <mustard5> thanks fabbione
[03:48] <kameron> NotF: please STOP
[03:48] <Blue-Omega> fabbione, thanks
[03:48] <Jowi> ves_: what exactly did (almost) you install?
[03:48] <fabbione> no problem
[03:48] <Vernon_> grazie fabbione
[03:48] <fabbione> * #ubuntu *!*n=notf@ip-81-11-211-55.dsl.scarlet.be :Channel ban list is full
[03:48] <fabbione> wow
[03:48] <ves_> Jowi: it was banshee
[03:48] <Blue-Omega> :o
[03:48] <JoeBlow> ouch does that kinda stuff happen alot
[03:48] <kameron> Despen: i don't know if you got what i said, there was a bit of a flood.. scroll up
[03:48] <mustard5> JoeBlow, often enough :)
[03:48] <Jowi> ves_: the 3dfx drivers?
[03:49] <ves_> Jowi: no, the recently new mono music app
[03:49] <Jowi> ves_: ah, ok.
[03:49] <lowman62> ves_: you still here
[03:50] <ves_> lowman62: yeah
[03:50] <Jowi> ves_: mystery why a non-system app should mess it up. no idea how to correct that.
[03:50] <pureone> hi
[03:50] <ves_> hmm :/
[03:50] <lowman62> ves_: sorry my wife called I had to answer the phone...now...what happened exactly?
[03:50] <pureone> does ubuntu come with bc43xx ?
[03:51] <kameron> pureone: the arbitrary precision calculator language?
[03:51] <ves_> lowman62: I was make installing banshee, ctrl+c'd by accident (wrong screen window) and then the whole system died with premission errors, ls, cp etc. I rebooted didn't start and couldn't login since my home directory gave an access denied. Root didn't login either with a password error.
[03:51] <pureone> no
[03:52] <pureone> i ment bcm43xx
[03:52] <lowman62> ves_: can you get to the login scree?
[03:52] <pureone> the wireless drivers for broadcom cards
[03:52] <kameron> pureone: not sure
[03:52] <lowman62> *screen
[03:52] <trappist> pureone: bcm4400
[03:52] <pureone> no others?
[03:52] <ves_> lowman62: yeah I could, I'm in rescue mode just now (booting off the install cd) and can see all my files
[03:52] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, ok did the cd part, nows the part where i dont use the cd, what command do i use to boot qemu now?
[03:52] <trappist> pureone: bcm4400 as a separate module - not sure what all's in the kernel
[03:53] <pureone> ok
[03:53] <lowman62> ves_: Ctrl+Alt+F1 from login screen...login at prompt username and password let me know when you are in there
[03:53] <pureone> i was under the impression that the bcm43xx module was included
[03:53] <podz> pureone, it doesn't support my FD7010 card
[03:53] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: change the boot parameter. set it to "-boot c"
[03:53] <lowman62> ves_: oh you are in rescue mode?
[03:53] <ves_> yeah
[03:53] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, k
[03:53] <lowman62> ves_: cd /home
[03:53] <ves_> I tried logging in but got a permission denied error from my home dir
[03:53] <ves_> lowman62: yeah
[03:54] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, qemu -hda /dev/hdb1  -boot c ??
[03:54] <lowman62> ls and let me know your profile name
[03:54] <ves_> 'gavin'
[03:54] <trappist> pureone: there's a builtin kernel module, b44, that's probably what you need
[03:54] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: add -cdrom /dev/cdrom
[03:54] <pureone> i got a bcm4306 card so i donno if that will work
[03:54] <pureone> well i got 3 of them cards...
[03:54] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: you don'tt boot from cd, but may it be usefull to have it available
[03:54] <imrabti> Ok
[03:54] <lowman62> okay do this.. sudo chmod 755 -R /home/gavin
[03:55] <imrabti> i've a probleme
[03:55] <pureone> but ill test the cd and see what happens
[03:55] <ves_> lowman62: k
[03:55] <imrabti> My graphics carte is not correctly configured
[03:55] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, it keeps flashing
[03:55] <imrabti> It is connected to PCI bus in xorg.conf
[03:55] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: cool :S
[03:55] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, lol, and not going anywhere
[03:55] <ves_> lowman62: it's done, is there a lot of that to go?
[03:55] <lowman62> ves_: then do this.. sudo chown gavin:gavin -R /home/gavin
[03:56] <imrabti> but in technical information about my laptop it is connected to a AGP Bus
[03:56] <ves_> lowman62: k
[03:56] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: have it wrote "windowsxp blah blah?"
[03:56] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, I cant read anythign on it, it keeps flashing and restarting itself
[03:56] <imrabti> And it suport OpenGL but OpenGl Application are so slow in my computer
[03:56] <lowman62> ves_: try booting up in normal mode and try login in
[03:56] <ves_> lowman62: oh wait sorry
[03:56] <imrabti> Please
[03:56] <ves_> it says cannot open sudoers persmission denied
[03:56] <imrabti> I want help
[03:56] <ves_> for 'chmod'
[03:57] <pureone> ves_ do it as root then..
[03:57] <BirdyKiller> hi... I'm having issues installing the nivida drivers on 2.6.12 for AMD64...  I've been following the directions from the wiki but I'm having trouble getting through the installer's issues with my source
[03:57] <ves_> I am as root
[03:57] <lowman62> okay you are no longer in your sudoers list hold on..I know there is a fix for that
[03:57] <ves_> drop the 'sudo'?
[03:57] <imrabti> please help
[03:57] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, should i just do it manually and then come back ?
[03:57] <BirdyKiller> i downloaded the source and untarred it but now it's saying "/include/linux/version.h" does not exist... most likely reason is that kernel source has not been configured
[03:57] <lowman62> ves_: no that happened to me..I just forget but I know where the answer is one second
[03:58] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: in other words?
[03:58] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, leave linux land, and let windows do its thing straight, and then come back to linux to run it qemu
[03:58] <ves_> k
[03:58] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: wait
[03:59] <kameron> anyone know where xmms-skins gets installed to? i thought it should be at /home/user/.xmms/Skins but it's not there.
[03:59] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, k
[03:59] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: you must configure bootloader, i suppose
[03:59] <Jowi> BirdyKiller: just a though, have you installed the kernel source?
[03:59] <stark-johan> what kind of themes can I download and use with ubuntu/gnome?
[03:59] <ves_> lowman62: oh, 'chown' works without the sudo
[03:59] <poningru> what?
[04:00] <Jowi> stark-johan: art.gnome.org
[04:00] <lowman62> ves_ do this .. type nano /etc/sudoers ..ass username to the list under the %admin entry in this format gavin ALL=(ALL)ALL
[04:00] <jenda> Seveas: There was this site that generated sources.list files... do you know where to find it?
[04:00] <lowman62> ass = as LOL
[04:00] <pureone> jenda, apt-setup
[04:00] <ves_> lowman62: k
[04:01] <lowman62> ves_: then reboot and login you are good to go
[04:01] <jenda> pureone: a website... is that a package?
[04:01] <pureone> its a program that configures /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, so how do i do that?
[04:01] <BirdyKiller> Jowi, I think so... I did apt-get install linux-kernel-source-2.6.12 I believe it was
[04:01] <lowman62> ves_ unless something else got messed up then we will have to fix that
[04:01] <BirdyKiller> that downloaded it to /usr/src as a .tar.bz2, then I untarred it....
[04:01] <Seveas> !tell jenda about easysource
[04:02] <ves_> lowman62: k bear with me :)
[04:02] <lowman62> ves_: take your time
[04:02] <Jowi> BirdyKiller: check if /usr/src/linux is pointint to your untarred linux source folder.
[04:02] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, I appreciate all the help
[04:02] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: grub o lilo?
[04:02] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, rh?
[04:03] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, eh?
[04:03] <luki922> siema
[04:03] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: your bootloader?
[04:03] <Sturgeon> any ideas what the following error means:
[04:03] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, some version of grub, the normal for ubuntu 5.10
[04:04] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, if i type grub o lilo it brings me into grub
[04:04] <jenda> What is the public opinion of Seveas' Repositories?
[04:04] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: 3 lines. better in query
[04:04] <jenda> *on
[04:04] <alen> hi, my 56k modem seems to disconect often, and when it does it wont let me econnect, and i have to restart my computer
[04:04] <Seveas> jenda, use at own risk, no guarantee, they work for most
[04:04] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, eh?
[04:04] <Seveas> same as for any 3rd party repo
[04:04] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, pm u mean?
[04:05] <jenda> Seveas: I know, that's why I ask for the reputation :)
[04:05] <Jowi> Seveas: aren't you partly biased? ;-)
[04:05] <Seveas> Jowi, quite
[04:05] <ves_> lowman62: I can seem to change sudoers it wont let me change it cos its read only
[04:05] <Jowi> haha
[04:05] <sproingie> what's in Seveas's repos?
[04:05] <Seveas> I'd be the first to recommend my repo over any other with the same things in it
[04:05] <ves_> but I'm managed to get this directory chown'd and chmo'd just by dropping the 'sudo'
[04:05] <Sturgeon> any idea what this is?: ** (gnome-cups-icon:31474): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
[04:05] <Seveas> since I know my packages :)
[04:05] <pureone> ves_, make sure you use visudo
[04:05] <ves_> 'visudo'?
[04:05] <Jowi> jenda: they are fine. nothing in there have broken anything for me
[04:05] <Sturgeon> I get tons of that in my .xsession-errors file
[04:05] <lowman62> ves_: my bad do exactly what i said but use sudo in front of it all
[04:05] <jenda> OK, sounds good enough
[04:05] <pureone> ves_ you do not need sudo if you are root!
[04:05] <jenda> thanks
[04:05] <pureone> man visudo
[04:06] <lowman62> hey ves_ are yo unot root?
[04:06] <Seveas> Jowi, but using 3rd party repos is always 'not recommended'
[04:06] <sproingie> Sturgeon: what's in these repos?  got a sources.list url?
[04:06] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[04:06] <ves_> lowman62: I'm on the rescue disk so I think I'm root already?
[04:06] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, so what should I do?
[04:06] <pureone> C-O-L-T, OK
[04:06] <ves_> but using 'sudo' doesnt work
[04:06] <sproingie> C-O-L-T: VERY NICE NOW GO AWAY
[04:06] <jenda> And what about Cipherfunk and PLF?
[04:06] <ves_> everything else does
[04:06] <Sturgeon> sproingie: what repos?
[04:06] <lowman62> then the sudoers should have write access to you then
[04:06] <sproingie> Sturgeon: sorry, mistyped.  meant to send that to seveas
[04:06] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: i've queried you. look for the new opened tab
[04:07] <Jowi> Seveas: I'm not really counting your repos as third party. 2.5 maybe. :)
[04:07] <lowman62> ves_ talk to me in the pm
[04:07] <Seveas> !tell sproingie about seveas
[04:07] <JoeBlow> Vernon_, I think pm doesnt work right for me
[04:07] <_Gray_> anyone using xdesktopwaves?
[04:07] <Jowi> ooops, forgot the oven!
[04:07] <Despen> kameron: Ok, I'll try that
[04:07] <squirrelpimp> Jowi: house on fire?
[04:08] <alen> can anyone help me with a problem with my 56k modem?, thank u
[04:08] <Seveas> !tell alen about anyone
[04:08] <sproingie> ooh, up to date java packages?  that's always nice
[04:08] <poningru> alen: whats wrong?
[04:08] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: join #vernon
[04:08] <jenda> _Gray_: I tried them out.
[04:09] <Jowi> squirrelpimp: luckily only steam. i remembered on time.
[04:09] <_Gray_> jenda: it makes the desktop look so pretty lol
[04:09] <alen> my modem seems to disconect very often and then wont reconect unless i restart my pc
[04:10] <jenda> _Gray_: It does look nice, but I wouldn't use it full time. Waste of resources.
[04:11] <BirdyKiller> AGH!
[04:11] <_Gray_> jenda: I only enable it when I'm doing light work like internet/word processing etc
[04:11] <BirdyKiller> unable to find the nvidia kernel module :(
[04:11] <Vernon_> BirdyKiller: depmod?
[04:11] <BirdyKiller> !depmod
[04:11] <ubotu> BirdyKiller: I haven't a clue
[04:11] <BirdyKiller> ?
[04:12] <_Gray_> BirdyKiller: are you installing the nvidia drivers from their website?
[04:12] <BirdyKiller> trying to
[04:12] <flogiston> Linux is like a wigwam. No windows, no Gates and an apache inside.
[04:12] <BirdyKiller> I can't startx with the nvidia-glx drivers...
[04:12] <_Gray_> BirdyKiller: have you followed the how-to in ubuntu forums?
[04:13] <BirdyKiller> that's what I'm trying to do :(
[04:13] <Despen> kameron: Thanks, got it to work!!
[04:13] <_Gray_> BirdyKiller: you cant startx?
[04:13] <Loevborg> _Gray_, hey desktopwaves looks funny
[04:13] <Micksa> man, it sure would be nice if smb just worked
[04:13] <Loevborg> _Gray_, unfortunately I never see my desktop anyway
[04:13] <_Gray_> Loevborg: go to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112333 to configure it more
[04:14] <Micksa> how do I get smbclient (or whatever) to search for a browser rather than DNS?
[04:14] <_Gray_> Loevborg: i spent like half an hour just playing around with it lol
[04:14] <Micksa> cos it must be using DNS
[04:14] <BirdyKiller> _Gray_ yeah it crashes on me...  the ubuntu logo in the center of the screen goes all garbly and I can't even ctrl+Alt+backspace
[04:14] <kameron> Despen: :D good!! i wasn't sure if that was going to work, but worth a shot. symbolic links are awesome.
[04:14] <ves_> pureone: any idea what unable to open term: bterm means?
[04:15] <flogiston> term= terminal?
[04:16] <bolrod> terminate!
[04:16] <bolrod> ?
[04:16] <ves_> trying to edit /etc/sudoers with visudo/vim/nano gives this unable to open bterm error :/
[04:16] <kameron> _Gray_: omg that shit pwns so hard
[04:16] <BirdyKiller> I've about lost hope on this system ever running ubuntu again
[04:17] <BirdyKiller> actually it never ran ubuntu, new computer, but it did in my dreams
[04:17] <Jowi> bterm is a framebuffer terminal emulator
[04:18] <Syruss> ubuntu isn't hard to get working
[04:18] <toydi> hi, any solution to input chinese characters in firefox1.5 (scim seems have problems)
[04:18] <BirdyKiller> nobody seems to be able to help me to get it working on a geforce 7800/amd64 system
[04:18] <Despen> kameron: Yes, It seems to work.. it started at least
[04:19] <kameron> Despen: sounds like a good start at least :P\
[04:21] <gnomefreak> :) good morning
[04:21] <radex> nice # :)
[04:21] <JoeBlow> vernon_ , hey
[04:22] <Micksa> okay, I have gotten this far:
[04:22] <Micksa> mslade@boo:~$ man -t rm|smbclient '\\mickpc\postscript' guest -U guest -c 'print -'
[04:22] <Micksa> Domain=[MICKPC]  OS=[Windows 5.1]  Server=[Windows 2000 LAN Manager] 
[04:22] <Micksa> ERRDOS - ERRbadaccess (Invalid open mode.) opening remote file stdin-14564
[04:22] <Micksa> what does that mean?
[04:22] <Micksa> "Invalid open mode" is what cups gives me too
[04:23] <Micksa> hang on....
[04:23] <JoeBlow> vernon_ , u their bro?
[04:23] <Jowi> ves_: can you re-install ncurses-term?
[04:23] <ves_> Jowi: just with apt?
[04:24] <Micksa> ah, windows related problem
[04:24] <Jowi> ves_: yeah. think bterm and it are connected
[04:24] <Micksa> of COURSE "invalid open mode" means "this account has insufficient access rights"
[04:26] <kremonte> what's the name of the linux limewire port? =x
[04:28] <BirdyKiller> anybody familiar with building kernel module for nvidia?  I know I'm close and I have the logfile...
[04:29] <madgik85> kremonte, you can use gtk-gnutella to connected to Limewire of you use Gnome environment
[04:29] <BirdyKiller> at the end of the log it's giving a /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: no such file or directory   then make[3] : **** [__modpost]  Error 127, make[2] : ***[modules]  Error 2, NVIDIA: left KBUILD, nvidia.ko failed to build!
[04:30] <kremonte> madgik85: thanks =)
[04:31] <Jowi> ves_: did it work?
[04:31] <avalost> anyone have any problems with amarok?
[04:32] <avalost> everytime I open amarok it crashes
[04:32] <fatcow> is anyone here using ddclient?
[04:33] <drviju> how to increase time in grub loader  choice betn  two  os
[04:33] <fatcow> How do I find out _Interfce used for dynamic DNS server_?
[04:34] <merly> why is partition of HD unsuccessful? I have about 5 gigs free (out of 20), did defrag and cleanup. what else can i do?
[04:34] <Jowi> drviju: in /boot/grub/menu.lst look for "timeout"
[04:34] <gnomefreak> drviju, open /boo/grub/menu.lst and edit the line that has something like time 5 change it to what you want
[04:34] <gnomefreak> out*
[04:35] <Jowi> merly: not having enough info. are you trying to add a partition?
[04:35] <merly> Jowi - i was installing ubuntu on an older pc
[04:35] <BirdyKiller> HA!!!!!
[04:35] <BirdyKiller> I GOT IT!
[04:35] <merly> Jowi - with previous windows install
[04:35] <merly> Jowi - trying to shrink the windows part.
[04:36] <Jowi> merly: so the shrinking fail or something else?
[04:36] <DDTa> hi
[04:36] <DDTa> just a question
[04:36] <SL0MO> How do I change screen resolution via commandline?
[04:36] <merly> jowi  - the shrinking. it just tries but it doesn't work.
[04:36] <BirdyKiller> YEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:36] <gnomefreak> DDTa, go ahead ask if someone knows they will help you
[04:36] <BlueDevil> does anyone know if the Logitech QuickCam Chat is supported on Ubuntu out of the box?
[04:36] <Seveas> BirdyKiller, you shot the bird?
[04:36] <Noriega> hey, does anyone know how to edit specific buttons on your keyboard layout, if I want altgr+c to be something else than 
[04:36] <BirdyKiller> been working on this for like 20 hours :) and I'm finally up into the gui... with errors.
[04:37] <BirdyKiller> failed to initialize HAL :-/
[04:37] <Jowi> merly: oh, don't know. always worked for me. with gparted?
[04:37] <gnomefreak> gui with errors is getting it?
[04:37] <Jowi> gnomefreak: he compiled nvidia drivers from source on an amd64 machine i think...
[04:37] <DDTa> gnomefreak: www.ethicalsoftware.org ... there is a license... I don't understand...
[04:37] <jenda> !nvidia
[04:37] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:37] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh
[04:38] <gnomefreak> DDTa, hold on im bringing it up
[04:38] <merly> Jowi - i'm just usuing the ubuntu installer. i don't  knwo if its gparted or ntfsresize or what
[04:38] <BirdyKiller> thanks for the assistance
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ok DDTa what does it say
[04:39] <Jowi> merly: oh ok. a fresh install.
[04:39] <Jowi> merly: so you write changes to disk and nothing changes?
[04:39] <gnomefreak> im looking at the liecense what do you not understand about it?
[04:40] <merly> Jowi that is correct
[04:40] <BirdyKiller> !grub
[04:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:40] <BirdyKiller> first link is broken...
[04:41] <gnomefreak> brb
[04:42] <jenda> I can't get my NVidia to work with the drivers in the repositories. What do I have to do in order to proporly remove them before I install it with the NVidia installer?
[04:42] <Nikusan> hi all, smeg won't let me delete an entry in my gnome menu. can anyone tell me what file(s) I need to edit manually to remove it?
[04:43] <DDTa> gnomefreak: see the site
[04:43] <Jowi> merly: are you manually choose the partition and type in a new lower value, or are you chosing the "resize and use freed space..."?
[04:44] <cisox> Hello, I am trying to create a debian package. I need some advice. All I want to do is take some files, a website or two, things along those lines, and install them on the new system. I don't need to make any files or anything along those lines. What would be the best way to build a package for this?
[04:44] <StyXman> hi all
[04:45] <StyXman> I'm compilin kernel 2.6.15 from dapper (in a breesy)
[04:45] <StyXman> but I can'tfor the life of me find the support for the intel 82801 IDE chipset
[04:46] <lale> Hi i have a problem with tulip driver. After 1-2 minutes my network connection gets down. I have to re-plug ethernet cable for reconnect
[04:46] <rszt> hi everyone, i'd have a question about the ssh server in hoary hedgehog: it fails to start and says: could not load host key /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[04:46] <mc|amb> hi, i need help to resize a partiton with gparted.. it all works great at the begining but when i give it apply everything looks like it went just fine but at the end nothing happens
[04:47] <strider> StyXman: I think i know where. just give me a minute
[04:47] <poningru> mc|amb: the partition you are working with has to be umounted
[04:47] <drviju_> jowi got thisbash: cd: /menu.lst: No such file or direc tory
[04:47] <drviju_> drviju@drviju:/boot/grub$ edit menu.lst
[04:47] <drviju_> Warning: unknown mime-type for "menu.lst" -- using "application/*"
[04:47] <drviju_> Error: no write permission for file "menu. lst"
[04:47] <Seveas> rszt, how did you install the ssh server?
[04:47] <Seveas> drviju, don't paste in here
[04:48] <pl_ice> hi
[04:48] <Goshawk> cisox: man debuild
[04:48] <poningru> Goshawk: he left
[04:48] <mc|amb> poningru, it is unmounted. i'm working with gparted from the liveCD
[04:48] <rszt> Seveas: apt-get install ssh
[04:48] <drviju_> seveas plz tell me hz to increase time in grub loader
[04:48] <BirdyKiller> and a reboot gives xserver errors...
[04:48] <Goshawk> poningru, thanks
[04:49] <Goshawk> i didn't note
[04:49] <Jowi> drviju: "sudo nano menu.lst" or "gksudo gedit menu.lst"
[04:49] <Seveas> drviju, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst (as normal user)
[04:49] <Seveas> and icrease the timeout
[04:49] <Seveas> rszt, hmm
[04:49] <merly> Jowi - i have tried both options, manually choose and resize, as well as the auto "resize and use freed space"
[04:49] <pl_ice> i need a hand with loggig in, under kubuntu, it was set so that it went to local mail, ubuntu, not sure how to check logs
[04:49] <Seveas> try apt-get remove --purge openssh-server and then again apt-get install ssh
[04:50] <StyXman> strider: k, waiting...
[04:50] <Jowi> merly: k, personally i would reboot and try again...
[04:50] <merly> Jowi which is better? manual or the resize and use freed?
[04:50] <symtab> is there a way i can get gnome-2.13.x with ubuntu?
[04:50] <symtab> except compiling
[04:50] <Seveas> symtab, by using dapper
[04:50] <symtab> ?
[04:50] <Jowi> merly: i never used the automatic one
[04:50] <symtab> dapper?
[04:50] <rszt> Seveas: thx, i'll try that
[04:50] <symtab> sorry, i'm new to ubuntu
[04:51] <symtab> where can i read more about dapper?
[04:51] <strider> StyXman: yes something to do with ICH intel pII or something. i'll just do a menuconfig and check ;)
[04:51] <Seveas> symtab, then don't use dapper or gnome 2.13
[04:51] <Seveas> both are development releases and unstable
[04:51] <StyXman> strider: ok, still here
[04:51] <symtab> Seveas, just tell me where to read about it :)
[04:52] <poningru> mc|amb: hmm
[04:52] <jenda> !tell symtab about dapper
[04:52] <symtab> thanks
[04:52] <lale> Hi i have a problem with tulip driver. After 1-2 minutes my network connection gets down. I have to re-plug ethernet cable for reconnect
[04:53] <Vernon_> joe_alf: if u r joeblow, i'll be back in 40 mins
[04:53] <drviju_> drviju@drviju:/$ gksudo gedit/boot/grub/me nu.lst
[04:53] <drviju_> (gksudo:7965): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[04:53] <drviju_> (gksudo:7965): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[04:53] <drviju_> sudo: gedit/boot/grub/menu.lst: command no t found
[04:53] <drviju_> drviju@drviju:/$ gksudo gedit menu.lst
[04:53] <drviju_> (gksudo:7978): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[04:53] <drviju_> (gksudo:7978): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[04:53] <drviju_> (gedit:7980): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not s upported by Xlib
[04:53] <Goshawk> is there a tool for networks that let you know if there is a dhcp client listen on a network or if ips are static and what's their addresses?
[04:53] <drviju_> (gedit:7980): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set l ocale modifiers
[04:53] <Vernon_> ciao Goshawk :)
[04:53] <drviju_> (gedit:7980): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While co nnecting to session manager:
[04:53] <drviju_> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are  supported and host-based authentication f ailed.
[04:53] <pl_ice> !log
[04:53] <ubotu> pl_ice: I give up, what is it?
[04:53] <Goshawk> Vernon_, ciao :D
[04:54] <strider> StyXman: under Device drivers
[04:54] <kab> in my gnome applet clock, the week day start day is Monday, but I want to be Sunday, How can I change this?
[04:54] <strider> StyXman: ATA/ATAPi
[04:54] <strider> StyXman: tell me when you get there
[04:54] <vk> is there any way to display a list of running processes in ubuntu, like windows ctrl+alt+esc
[04:55] <Goshawk> vk: system monitor
[04:55] <mwe> vk: or ps aux from a console
[04:55] <Goshawk> vk, there is a gnome applet
[04:55] <Goshawk> that is very nice to see :D
[04:55] <poningru> vk: yeah go to applications-> system tools-> system monitor
[04:56] <symtab> ok...i want to test it....where can i download dapper?
[04:56] <vk> goshawk, where do i find system monitor?
[04:56] <StyXman> strider: the only intel thing is the intel PIIXn
[04:56] <Goshawk> vk, follow poningru directives
[04:56] <strider> StyXman: yes that's the one
[04:56] <StyXman> maybe activating experimental/broken ones...
[04:56] <vk> tnx
[04:56] <StyXman> strider: that one, sure?
[04:56] <strider> StyXman: what's your h/w ?
[04:57] <pl_ice> my pc shuts down for a no reason, which logs can i check to find something out? ...
[04:57] <StyXman> lspci says: 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100 IDE Controller (rev 02)
[04:57] <Goshawk> so.. is there a tool to discover a network? a tool can understand if there is a dhcp server of the ips are statics
[04:57] <mustard5> pl_ice, try Xorg.log
[04:57] <mustard5> pl_ice, sounds like possible RAM problem
[04:58] <BirdyKiller> what's the ubuntu version of mkinitrd?
[04:58] <StyXman> strider: lspci says: 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100 IDE Controller (rev 02)
[04:58] <pl_ice> mustard5 under ubuntu 5.04 it was cool; no it behaves like i did shutdown
[04:58] <StyXman> (sorry the dupe)
[04:58] <strider> StyXman: yes, IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 03)
[04:58] <mustard5> pl_ice, Xorg.0.log is in /var/log/
[04:58] <StyXman> strider: not here
[04:58] <strider> StyXman: that'smine
[04:58] <strider> wait
[04:59] <mustard5> pl_ice, yeah..that symptom reminds me of a problem I had with faulty RAM stick
[04:59] <StyXman> strider: ah, ok
[04:59] <mustard5> pl_ice, it was showing a FATAL X error in the Xorg.-.log
[04:59] <StyXman> that driver works, you say...
[04:59] <strider> StyXman: I'm actually quite sure. ICH4 comes from there
[05:00] <StyXman> strider: k
[05:00] <strider> StyXman: you can try.
[05:00] <mustard5> pl_ice, you can test your RAM with the memtest option in your grub menu at bootup, if you want to eliminate that as the problem
[05:00] <strider> StyXman: did you compile already or you are going to?
[05:00] <pl_ice> mustard5 no Xorg errors etc :/
[05:00] <mustard5> pl_ice, hmm k
[05:01] <pl_ice> yeh, i need to dust the box ;) could be it ...
[05:01] <mustard5> pl_ice, try the Applications>>System>>Monitor logs choice in the menus
[05:01] <mustard5> pl_ice, or whatever they are called :)
[05:01] <pl_ice> :)
[05:02] <yarko> Hi All! I am trying to put ubuntu 5.10 on my chiefs Powerbook but apparently I need to have patched kernel to detect CDROM  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18579
[05:02] <yarko> could anyone point me to some description on how to rebuild the image or to say installation kernel since there is howto rebuild the image  http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuRemastering
[05:02] <pl_ice> mustard5 i forgot to tell, it after the box fires up again, it shows stack of mem addresses,looks like it belongs to hd, which logs that would be? ..
[05:03] <mustard5> pl_ice, not sure
[05:03] <mustard5> pl_ice, search around in /var/log/ directory and see what you can find maybe?
[05:03] <pureone> er who ever sent me a message i missed it..
[05:03] <StyXman> strider: config'ing now
[05:04] <pl_ice> whats hpiod? heaps of errors on it ...
[05:04] <strider> StyXman: make-kpkg makes it pretty easy.
[05:05] <StyXman> strider: well, config'ing is still done by hand, I guess
[05:05] <mustard5> pl_ice, I wouldnt have a clue what it is
[05:05] <Pygi> freaky: ping ping
[05:05] <strider> StyXman:heh ofcourse
[05:05] <prem> hi all
[05:06] <strider> StyXman:leave a message if it works fine ;)
[05:06] <mustard5> pl_ice, its sounds like something that reminds me of my Hewlett Packard printer setup :)
[05:06] <mustard5> pl_ice, something to do with hplip (whatever that is)
[05:06] <StyXman> strider: ooook
[05:07] <pl_ice> mustard5 yeh, might sit down one day and clean 'couple' of processes ... the logs are clean, strange it didn't pick up that error, no worries, off to bed :) thnx
[05:07] <mustard5> pl_ice, np
[05:08] <prem> just instlled mplayer, trying to play .mov but getting error "Cannot find codec for audio format 0x706C6351" but my /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf has entry ----- format 0x706C6351 ; "QCLP"
[05:08] <Pygi> !codecs
[05:08] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:08] <Pygi> !avi
[05:08] <ubotu> avi is, like, totally, Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:08] <pl_ice> g/night :)
[05:08] <mustard5> pl_ice, night
[05:09] <prem> codecs are downloaded and installed to /usr/local/lib/codecs is this location correct if not how to find out where it looks for codecs......
[05:09] <black-whIsp> How do i make a short cut to a folder...???????
[05:10] <BirdyKiller> !mkinitrd
[05:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, BirdyKiller
[05:10] <BirdyKiller> !initrd-tools
[05:10] <ubotu> BirdyKiller: What?
[05:10] <BirdyKiller> :(
[05:10] <salvo1> hi people
[05:11] <kameron> ubotu is an asshole man. don't like cut of his jip one bit.
[05:11] <ubotu> kameron: Are you on ritalin?
[05:11] <kameron> ...
[05:11] <prem> !easysource
[05:11] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:11] <Ng> kameron: (it's jib, not jip ;)
[05:12] <Acidic32> im in a debate, i want to offer a shell service, will Ubuntu be secure enuff for this?
[05:12] <tkup> How arguments do you give apt-get to check for software updates? there's a sudo and xpdf update that just came out. I tried apt-get upgrade and apt-get update, but none of them updated those two packages
[05:12] <mustard5> black-whIsp, something like ln -s target linkname  ... read man ln for a better description
[05:13] <mustard5> black-whIsp, you need to make a 'soft link'
[05:13] <mustard5> black-whIsp, with the -s option
[05:13] <black-whIsp> okay.. thanks.:)
[05:13] <prem> there are no Dapper related on http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:14] <kameron> eh, i guess so Ng
[05:14] <snowblink> tkup, sudo apt-get update first
[05:14] <Pygi> Acidic: jailed shell?
[05:14] <Acidic32> yea
[05:15] <mustard5> black-whIsp, reading the manual it would be something like    ln -s target directory ?
[05:15] <Pygi> Acidic: well, if you do it right, then it is secure :)
[05:15] <mustard5> black-whIsp, thats the way I'm reading it anyway :)
[05:15] <Acidic32> im using FreeBSD atm, will Ubuntu be a good change from this?
[05:15] <Acidic32> i want to go Linux
[05:15] <Pygi> Acidic: huh, FreeBSD is a good system tho :/
[05:15] <Acidic32> that came out wrong
[05:15] <Pygi> Acidic: what seems to be wrong with FreeBSD?
[05:16] <Acidic32> the other box be Ubuntu
[05:16] <Acidic32> so i have two servers
[05:16] <Acidic32> 1 bsd and 1 linux
[05:16] <kameron> Seveas, how about win32codecs for amd64?
[05:16] <Seveas> kameron, -ENOSUCHTHING
[05:16] <Pygi> Acidic: ah, well, I would suggest something else, but as we are here, Ubuntu server will do it's task well, as long as you know how to configure it :)
[05:16] <Acidic32> ok
[05:16] <kameron> no such thing seveas?
[05:17] <JoeBlow> hey guys, im on windows right now, how can i run my current ubuntu system through a window?
[05:17] <kameron> JoeBlow: hah!
[05:17] <JoeBlow> kameron, I already feel dirty
[05:17] <JoeBlow> kameron, this is just for gamin tho
[05:17] <kameron> JoeBlow: you want to run ubuntu from a seperate partition, on the same drive?
[05:18] <JoeBlow> kameron, yea
[05:18] <kameron> or, on the same computer i mean Joeblow
[05:18] <JoeBlow> kameron, yea
[05:18] <kameron> JoeBlow: wow, i have no idea. it's likely not possible, but google.. maybe there's some kind of 3rd party app to help you with that.
[05:18] <JoeBlow> kameron, but not like a virtual machine, my real linux partition
[05:18] <prem> JoeBlow, consider VMWare, parallels workstation of a free qemu
[05:18] <kameron> JoeBlow: oh, not a chance of that happening.
[05:18] <Pygi> qemu is better :)
[05:18] <salvo1> just a question, how to disable off-key of my notebook with ubuntu?? I don't want that when i push it, my notebook turn off
[05:18] <salvo1> *turns
[05:18] <ubuntu_> Hey all :P
[05:19] <kameron> JoeBlow: unless you just want to access the files.. you won't be able to actually run anything
[05:19] <ahsm> hi everyone
[05:19] <ubuntu_> yea I know I should change my nick :P
[05:19] <kameron> JoeBlow: unless you do it virtually
[05:19] <JoeBlow> prem, well, doesnt that just run a fake ubuntu, no file saving or access to my stuff that i already have in my current ubuntu
[05:19] <ahsm> i have some problems :(
[05:19] <JoeBlow> im not doing it virtualls fuck that
[05:19] <lee_> hey guys, im a debian user and considering moving to ubuntu.....is ubuntu yet stable? as when i tried it last year it was not stable as a desktop OS
[05:19] <lee_> ?
[05:19] <ubuntu_> yes ubuntu is nice :)
[05:19] <Pygi> lee: it is stable, as long as you don't use dapper :P
[05:19] <Ng> lee_: I've been using linux as a desktop since 1997 and I believe it's been stable for most of that time ;)
[05:19] <yggdrasil> can somone help me with my mount -t smbfs going to a windows box ?
[05:19] <kameron> JoeBlow: you can access your partition, and read files, etc.. but you WON'T be able to run programs, etc, unless you do it virtuallyl
[05:19] <salvo1> ubuntu is stabler and simpler than debian
[05:20] <ahsm> how do i edit my mouse settings
[05:20] <ubuntu_> I wanted to use Mandrake
[05:20] <ahsm> so i can change the protocol and all that stuff?
[05:20] <prem> JoeBlow, no you can actually configure VMware to use your physical harddisk
[05:20] <Pygi> ubuntu: there is no Mandrake :D
[05:20] <ubuntu_> but opted for this
[05:20] <tkup> snowblink, ah thanks!
[05:20] <kameron> salvol: no WAY is ubuntu more stable than debian
[05:20] <lee_> Ng, linux as a whole might be stable but im talking ubuntu
[05:20] <alexissoft> hi
[05:20] <ubuntu_> ohhh
[05:20] <ubuntu_> yea not anymore :P
[05:20] <ubuntu_> hahah
[05:20] <ubuntu_> Mandriva :P
[05:20] <kameron> ubuntu_ i used mandrake for years before switching to ubuntu.
[05:20] <Pygi> hehe :)
[05:20] <ubuntu_> hahaha
[05:20] <yggdrasil> can somone help me with my mount -t smbfs going to a windows box ? i got it mounted but its only read only....
[05:20] <Pygi> !patience
[05:20] <Ng> lee_: well I've been using that since before warty was released and I'm very happy with its stability :)
[05:20] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[05:20] <ubuntu_> which you like best?
[05:21] <JoeBlow> kameron: man that sucks
[05:21] <Pygi> ubuntu: who? me?
[05:21] <BirdyKiller> it's stable as long as you don't use nvidia drivers on an amd64 system :)
[05:21] <lee_> the main thing i like about it as i installed it on my friends laptop is it works flawlessley out of the box but it was worrying how many modules were loaded...i take it you all edit the kernel and compile these in eventually?
[05:21] <ubuntu_> yes anyone heheh :P
[05:21] <Ng> lee_: have you tried the live cd? you could try running that for a few days and see how it works
[05:21] <poningru> yggdrasil: thats because ntfs write is not built in by default in the current ubuntu kernel
[05:21] <ubuntu_> yes thats what I am using now
[05:21] <Ng> lee_: having lots of modules is fine
[05:21] <ubuntu_> live cd
[05:21] <ubuntu_> lol
[05:21] <poningru> yggdrasil: you have to add that in
[05:21] <rszt> \part
[05:21] <Ng> lee_: it makes no difference if you recompile with them in the kernel
[05:21] <poningru> !ntfs
[05:21] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[05:21] <kameron> ubuntu_ ubuntu is a much nicer, cleaner, simpler system. the only thing i miss about mandriva is the mcc. but it's almost unnecessary on ubuntu to have a central config, everything just works.
[05:21] <Pygi> ubuntu: huh, well I mostly use Slack, but I use Ubuntu for gnome development :)
[05:21] <ahsm> so i can change the protocol and all that stuff?
[05:21] <yggdrasil> poniguru if i su and then access it i can write.
[05:21] <ubuntu_> hehe gnome on this is cool
[05:22] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:22] <olicat> my main network connection is a wireless one, on eth2, but i've got an internal network on eth1 - how can i ssh using eth1?
[05:22] <prem> BirdyKiller, i am currently using Dapper with nvidia drivers, it *is* stable
[05:22] <fek> the problem concerning the dual desktop seems to be in the resolution
[05:22] <ubuntu_> yes some like the slack
[05:22] <Pygi> ubuntu: well, it's much better here due to Patrick erased gnome from Slack :(
[05:22] <lee_> Ng,  i installed it for my friend last and it worked and looked exactly the same as my debian system...only alot simpler...as his wireless and everything was found instantly...a problem i have with debian is im continuously configruing the kernel to get one thing or another to work
[05:22] <kameron> ubuntu_: the kubuntu live cd is even cooler, IMO, just because i've never liked gnome
[05:22] <ubuntu_> its smaller too
[05:22] <fek> when i am using 1600x1200@60 on the DFP i got the same problem
[05:22] <poningru> yggdrasil: really?
[05:22] <poningru> yggdrasil: cause I cant
[05:22] <yggdrasil> yar indeed
[05:22] <ubuntu_> ohh ok
[05:22] <BirdyKiller> prem, then help me get the damned thing working or point me somewhere that'll help?
[05:22] <yggdrasil> nah it works fine when i even if i su and start up konqueoror
[05:22] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:22] <yggdrasil> it work
[05:22] <salvo1> ubuntu_, u can do as me, u can try the livecd and than decide
[05:23] <Ng> lee_: I guess it depends on your hardware, but generally only really new or obscure things need you to compile stuff. Again, you can try with the live cd and see what is supported out of the box :)
[05:23] <ahsm> how i can change the protocol and all that stuff?
[05:23] <JoeBlow> kameron: Mirc sucks, i miss Xchat
[05:23] <yggdrasil> poni have your tried su ?
[05:23] <ubuntu_> yep thats what I am doing
[05:23] <ahsm> how do i edit my mouse settings so i can change the protocol?
[05:23] <kameron> JoeBlow: yeah, it's not as nice. and you have to pay for xchat on windows.
[05:23] <ubuntu_> I am somewhat tired of stuck with windblows :P
[05:23] <Pygi> ubuntu: well, erase them :D
[05:23] <ubuntu_> hehe
[05:23] <yggdrasil> im using enlightenment6 on ubuntu
[05:23] <prem> BirdyKiller, I compiled nvidia drivers with patches from nvidia forums, i have a old TNT2 card it works rock solid
[05:23] <yggdrasil> its great
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> ick ;P
[05:24] <lee_> Ng, yeah means id have to download and burn the cd....i have the instalation cd here so i might just take the plunge and give it ago tonight...i just wanted to know it was stable....one thing i do need helpwith is that when i put a dvd in with debian it automatically loads up totem...and i want it to load with ogle...where would i adjust this
[05:24] <ahsm> how do i edit my mouse settings so i can change the protocol?
[05:24] <kameron> yggdrasil: you should try e17
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> There are 'free' versions of xchat for windows out.  JoeBlow
[05:24] <yggdrasil> kameron i was trying to
[05:25] <yggdrasil> im having som problems compiling stuff here
[05:25] <olicat> any ideas?
[05:25] <ubuntu_> I have found this is by far the easiest one to get connected to the dsl
[05:25] <yggdrasil> keep getting a glibc eror
[05:25] <poningru> yggdrasil: then just chmod it and allow write for user
[05:25] <prem> ahsm, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:25] <JoeBlow> kameron: as soon as i get these drivers set up, im going right back into ubuntu, this is just for playing a few games that i cant get working on linux, and for my girlfriend
[05:25] <kameron> yggdrasil: it's one of my wm projects. i also want to install project looking glass
[05:25] <Deep6> what's the next revision called?
[05:25] <strider> JoeBlow: SilverX
[05:25] <ahsm> prem, thank you sir
[05:25] <ubuntu_> in other live distro's more to do
[05:25] <ubuntu_> to get connected
[05:25] <yggdrasil> looking glass huh
[05:25] <Pygi> Deep: dapper drake? :)
[05:25] <kameron> JoeBlow: that's the only reason most of us here have windows.
[05:25] <yggdrasil> hmmm
[05:25] <shameem> hi...
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Games = Windows, Work=Linux
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:25] <kameron> yggdrasil: www.sun.com and search for looking glass, it's tyte
[05:25] <ubuntu_> hehe
[05:25] <Pygi> JoeBlow: you can play "any" game on Linux, as long as you know how to set it up
[05:25] <Vernon_> JoeBlow: i'm here
[05:26] <burumbu> hi
[05:26] <ubuntu_> yea no doubt windows rules in the game area
[05:26] <poningru> more like windows for = gf
[05:26] <lee_> is ubuntu more system resourceful than debian - that question goes to everyone?
[05:26] <ubuntu_> for now
[05:26] <prem> Dr_Willis, Games= Cedega+Linux Work=Linux
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  and are willing to ignore all the little issues
[05:26] <poningru> err
[05:26] <Ng> lee_: there's a tool in System->Preferences for configuring what happens with removeable drives
[05:26] <ubuntu_> untill they make ..... 2 versions for each
[05:26] <ubuntu_> lol
[05:26] <BirdyKiller> unless you work for the govt and they mandate windows machines at work, or you work for a linux gaming company and they mandate linux at home
[05:26] <lee_> thanjs NG
[05:26] <Pygi> Willis: nah, all can work good :)
[05:26] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis, yea exactly
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> prem,  and are willing to ignore all the little issues. :P
[05:26] <kameron> lee_: depends on how many services you run, etc. it's not really more or less of a hog than debian.
[05:26] <pinucset> one think, if i erase the windows partition will i can resize my ext3 linux partition?
[05:26] <ahsm> prem, it says no such directory
[05:26] <kameron> pinuccset: yes
[05:26] <poningru> pinucset: yes
[05:26] <JoeBlow> I cant get quake 2 on my linux, cause id software has had their server down all day
[05:26] <lee_> ok thanks kameron....going to go install it now ;) say bye bye debian
[05:26] <salvo1> i'm using a toshiba m50 and every hardware device was autoknown
[05:26] <salvo1> really great :>
[05:26] <salvo1> now i'm going crazy to disable power-off key, because my friends jokes me every time pushing it
[05:27] <prem> Dr_Willis, please explain "little issues"
[05:27] <pinucset> poningru cool thanks, ill can erase the fucking windows!
[05:27] <kameron> lee_ good luck, we'll be here to help.
[05:27] <ubuntu_> lol
[05:27] <kameron> lee_ not that you'll need it :P
[05:27] <Deep6> anyone know the screensaver password on the live cd?
[05:27] <prem> ahsm, /etc/X11/XF86Config*
[05:27] <poningru> Deep6: there is none
[05:27] <burumbu> every time I try to use magnets in Wings3D (ALT+right mouse button), GNOME's Window menu popsup, how can I disable that combination?
[05:27] <JoeBlow> when i first went to linux, i was like ahh everything is such a pain to do, but now that im back in windows, everything pretty easy, but on the other hand, it doesnt do exactly what u want like in linux
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> prem,  lets see.. gfx not being as good at times, mouse issues, every new update to WoW seeming to break Cedega support.. same with Guild Wars.. GTA running at 2x speed....
[05:27] <Deep6> poningru, well, then when you hit enter it says cancelled and the system remains locked
[05:27] <lee_> many thanks...i shouldnt need it......if i can work from a base install of debian and get it running like i have now...ubuntu was a synch on a thinkpad....i only hope its as easy on my omnibook
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> prem,  over all.. cedega works.. but theres always seems tobe some slight issues with it.
[05:28] <BirdyKiller> prem, my new drivers work just fine... the problem is I have to recompile, rebuild the module, and reinstall the drivers on every reboot.
[05:28] <Pygi> Willis: I suggest you to "shoot" at developers to produce OpenGL based games :D
[05:28] <prem> Dr_Willis, How about DirectX + Windows -> reboot and reboot and reboot
[05:28] <kameron> Seveas: -ENOSUCHTHING.. what is that?
[05:28] <ubuntu_> yea I know I just wish there was a utl, to convert all windows apps to install on linux :P
[05:28] <ubuntu_> haha
[05:28] <kameron> Seveas: is that an option.. or.. are you saying, there's no such thing?
[05:28] <JoeBlow> ubuntu_, ever tried crossover
[05:28] <yggdrasil> poniguru so chngmod it to 500 ?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  i wonder why the game makers  dont work with  the Wine/Cedega  guys to get where tneyc an say it 'supported' in cedega.
[05:28] <ubuntu_> nope I haven
[05:29] <ubuntu_> havent*
[05:29] <kameron> ubuntu_ maybe sometime in the future. but for now we have virtual desktops, wine, cedega, crossover, etc.
[05:29] <ubuntu_> I used vine :)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> prem,  actually i rareluy have to reboot xp these days.. that MS update last night DID force a reboot however.. which was amuseing.
[05:29] <ubuntu_> thats about all
[05:29] <ubuntu_> haha
[05:29] <prem> BirdyKiller, I am hearing such thing for the first time
[05:29] <Pygi> Willis: well, I know, when I've been making (not did it in a long time tho) I've done them in OpenGL
[05:29] <ubuntu_> it works pretty good as an emu.
[05:29] <Pygi> willis: so not compatibility probs
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Pygi,  of course its getting where i waste less and less time on games. :P
[05:30] <salvo1> does any1 know how to disable power-off key in ubuntu??
[05:30] <AnObfuscator> can anyone recommend a good USB wireless adapter with good linux support? I need WPA, and my current dlink doesn't seem to work with wpa-supplicant. :/
[05:30] <ubuntu_> hehe I see I am not the only "newbe" here
[05:30] <ubuntu_> hehe
[05:30] <delire> what is the current Breezy stable kernel? 2.6.12-10?
[05:30] <ubuntu_> :)
[05:30] <Pygi> Willis: huh, I don't have times to do anything I am afraid, and no games as well :P
[05:30] <Ng> delire: yes
[05:30] <delire> cheers,
[05:30] <FRAG> im having problems booting the breezy live cd, i get an error with X, im running a x700, is there anyway for me to boot off the cd with this?
[05:31] <FRAG> im guessing its a problem with the ati drivers
[05:31] <Pygi> huh, live cd doesnt have ati drivers
[05:31] <mieleman> just install it.. :-)
[05:31] <Pygi> it has generic drivers
[05:31] <FRAG> oh
[05:31] <BirdyKiller> prem, I've been bitching about it for the last hour or so, how could you miss it?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> FRAG,  also the live cd is a little out of date.. I got my X200 video working with a 'real' install
[05:31] <burumbu> is there any way to disable the popup menu that appears when pressing Alt+Right mouse button?
[05:31] <FRAG> its there a boot option i can add to boot it?
[05:31] <Pygi> !patience
[05:31] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[05:32] <jenda> I need help with my NVidia. There seems to be nothing I can do to install it
[05:33] <jenda> Anyone consider themselves an Nvidia guru?
[05:33] <Pygi> !nvidia
[05:33] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:33] <jenda> Pygi: not good enough
[05:33] <Pygi> jenda: what seems to be the issue?
[05:34] <jenda> Alright: If I follow the 'official' way, then it won't load - "couldn't find Nvidia driver module"
[05:34] <BirdyKiller> I just fixed that problem... I'm now at the next step in the nvidia problem
[05:35] <jenda> If I use the Nvidia installer, it won't install, because of gcc
[05:35] <jenda> BirdyKiller: how?
[05:35] <ubuntu_> I got the ati x1800xl
[05:35] <ubuntu_> on my other pc
[05:35] <Pygi> jenda: don't use gcc 4.0 just yet
[05:35] <FRAG> so if i do a install my x700 shouldnt have a problem
[05:35] <FRAG> ?
[05:35] <jenda> Pygi: It has an issue with 3.4 even
[05:35] <Pygi> jenda: 3.3?
[05:35] <jenda> umm
[05:36] <BirdyKiller> jenda, export CC="gcc-3.4"
[05:36] <jenda> I don't think that's just the problem. It says command not found when it comes to the gcc version check
[05:36] <trappist> it has issues with 4.0 because the kernel was built with 3.4 - yeah, just export CC
[05:36] <yggdrasil> poniguru that worked
[05:36] <BirdyKiller> do you have gcc installed?
[05:36] <yggdrasil> poniguru thanks
[05:36] <jenda> Whereas if I set the wrong gcc version, it says it's ok
[05:36] <jenda> I mean
[05:36] <yggdrasil> birdykiller can you help me out too im trying to compile xchat and im getting something wierd
[05:36] <jenda> It says it's NOT OK, just as it should
[05:37] <kameron> what's the command that tells you about your system, what kernel, etc? man, i'm blanking.
[05:37] <JoeBlow> god i hate windows, its already screwing up on me!
[05:37] <moodog> evening all.
[05:37] <BirdyKiller> yggdrasil, sorry I don't know much about ubuntu :) I just have about 5000 man-hours trying to get nvidia drivers to work
[05:37] <trappist> kameron: tells you what about your system?  uname -r will tell you about your kernel.
[05:37] <jenda> BirdyKiller: I do have it installed
[05:37] <kameron> trappist: uname, word.. forgot.
[05:37] <yggdrasil> can somone help me with some compiling problems
[05:37] <kameron> trappist: uname -a was what i was looking for
[05:37] <strider> does anone have to kill gnome-terminal occasionally from a virtual terminal? you can't type anything and menu's don't work
[05:38] <trappist> morphix: cut that out.
[05:38] <Pygi> tggdrasil: what seems to be the problem>
[05:38] <Tardis107> hey how you set up ubuntu 5.10 so that you can compile?
[05:38] <strider> Tardis107: get build-essential
[05:38] <jenda> trappist: If I do export gcc (3.4), it gives me an error... where can I find the log...?
[05:38] <yggdrasil> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.3... no
[05:38] <yggdrasil> *** Could not run GLIB test program, checking why...
[05:38] <Pygi> well, you don't have glib :)
[05:38] <yggdrasil> i get that when i do my ./configure
[05:38] <BirdyKiller> I used the official way... had to download kernel-headers, makeconfig them, ....
[05:38] <Tardis107> strider: is that all I have to do?
[05:38] <trappist> jenda: I'm not sure it produces a lot
[05:38] <strider> no, you wont get 3.4
[05:39] <Pygi> yggdrasil: well install glib-devel or whateva :)
[05:39] <trappist> yggdrasil: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:39] <BirdyKiller> /var/log/nvidia-installer.log
[05:39] <yggdrasil> trappist
[05:39] <yggdrasil> thanks
[05:39] <pureone> why do ubuntu users love sudo so much?
[05:39] <Tardis107> yeah thanks
[05:39] <ompaul> morphix, those messages will get you kick banned if 658 people did it there would be no channel
[05:39] <jenda> BirdyKiller: thanks
[05:39] <yggdrasil> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:39] <yggdrasil> build-essential is already the newest version.
[05:39] <Tardis107> sudo keeps newbies away from selfharm
[05:39] <kameron> pureone: i kind of dislike sudo, but i use it a bit, when i don't have a lot of root stuff to do
[05:39] <ompaul> !tell pureone about root
[05:39] <yggdrasil> traapist you see that
[05:39] <JoeBlow> pureone, because you = user, sudo = God
[05:40] <pureone> sudo = security risk
[05:40] <Tardis107> ?
[05:40] <pureone> ompaul i know about root
[05:40] <jenda> Here it is. Please excuse the paste, it is a short one: "./usr/src/nv/conftest.sh: line 9: gcc-3.4: command not found"
[05:40] <ompaul> pureone, Wrong
[05:40] <yggdrasil> trappist you see that
[05:40] <strider> Tardis107: Default Ubuntu comes with no dev packages. Install the build-essential meta package (for gcc 4). But if you want 3.4 you have to manually add that
[05:40] <pureone> if someone compramises your system as your normal user that basicly have root
[05:40] <trappist> yggdrasil: sudo apt-get install liblib-dev and/or libglib2.0-dev - not sure which xchat needs
[05:40] <Ng> jenda: you probably need to install build-essential and maybe gcc-3.4 if that doesn't include it
[05:40] <JoeBlow> pureone, You must respect sudo, for he is the way
[05:40] <kameron> pureone: you've got it backwards. staying logged in as root is a security risk. sudo reduces that risk.
[05:40] <mutRec> Anyone knows merila trojan?
[05:40] <pureone> kameron eh?
[05:41] <trappist> pureone: only if he knows your password, and if you can't protect your passwords root's gone too
[05:41] <mutRec> Do you know if it's a rootKit?
[05:41] <FieldySnuts> google?
[05:41] <Tardis107> strider - why would i want 3.4?
[05:41] <yggdrasil> E: Couldn't find package liblib2.0-dev
[05:41] <ubuntu_> alright, wel I guess I'll be going :P
[05:41] <mutRec> We think it's my ubuntu server soffer a typical DDoS attack...
[05:41] <trappist> Tardis107: to build kernel-sensitive stuff
[05:41] <JoeBlow> pureone, without sudo, u can go take a piss, and mother in law can just go up and fuck your system over
[05:41] <ubuntu_> see all of you later :)
[05:41] <JoeBlow> chow
[05:41] <ubuntu_> :) chow
[05:41] <Tardis107> thanks trappist
[05:41] <Ng> chow?!
[05:42] <pureone> jowblow, or your mum can come in and just type "sudo rm -fdrv /" just after you used it
[05:42] <Ng> ciao ;)
[05:42] <pureone> and they wont have to re enter the users password
[05:42] <jenda> Ng: damn... that's it!!! gcc-3.4! I'll be back (BirdyKiller-beep :) thanks)
[05:42] <JoeBlow> pureone, amd if she doesnt know the password, she cant do crap
[05:42] <strider> because the kernel is compiled with it
[05:42] <trappist> jenda: didn't we say that?
[05:42] <JoeBlow> pureone, thats just the 15 minutes timer, im pretty sure u can log out of root
[05:42] <mutRec> what's the basic difference between aptitude and apt-get?
[05:42] <Ng> mutRec: aptitude is more like a command line version of synaptic
[05:42] <BirdyKiller> jenda, np
[05:42] <jenda> trappist: you said install gcc, but not gcc-3.4 :) I didn't think of that
[05:42] <jenda> BRB
[05:42] <pureone> im sure you dont longer then 15 minutes to take a piss ;)
[05:42] <JoeBlow> pureone, but are u saying its safer without sudo at all, as in, no passwords ever
[05:43] <JoeBlow> pureone, i wash my hands, really really well
[05:43] <ompaul> pureone, - if that is a risk then you use a screen saver - think about what your saying - your wrong, what is the risk and what are you trying to do - btw the command in question is almost 25 years old this year
[05:43] <strider> any module you need has to be compiled with the same gc version
[05:43] <strider> *gcc
[05:43] <pureone> JoeBlow, im saying its safer to type "su -c "command" "
[05:43] <strider> Tardis107: what do you need to compile?
[05:43] <strider> anything specific
[05:43] <JoeBlow> pureone, ohh alright
[05:43] <mutRec> well, so... what's the difference between synaptic (X-Window) and apt-get or dpkg ?
[05:43] <mutRec> what it's better to use?
[05:43] <JoeBlow> pureone, I like sudo, makes it easier and faster for me
[05:44] <ompaul> pureone, you can down the amount of time that sudo is availabe if you want to
[05:44] <JoeBlow> ompaul, whats the command for that?
[05:44] <trappist> mutRec: if you know what packages you need, use apt-get.  if you want to browse available packages, use a frontend like synaptic or aptitude.
[05:44] <pureone> so is sudo set up automaticly when you install ubuntu ?
[05:44] <BirdyKiller> I prefer to stay logged in as root on an unpatched system without a firewall running every server I can with the default settings
[05:44] <JoeBlow> pureone, yea
[05:44] <mutRec> right... thx trappist...
[05:44] <pureone> BirdyKiller, yeah thats fun
[05:45] <zool2005> mutRec : dpkg is for manipulating .deb files
[05:45] <JoeBlow> BirdyKiller, I prefer to even name my systems as the password
[05:45] <pureone> ok well i see your points :)
[05:45] <FieldySnuts> heh.
[05:45] <Tardis107> strider: I want to compile games and similar things which dont have deb files
[05:45] <yggdrasil> trappist that worked thanks
[05:45] <BirdyKiller> JoeBlow, that's brilliant.  I wish I had thought of that!
[05:45] <trappist> JoeBlow: I find it easier to remember if my password is my username
[05:45] <FieldySnuts> ubuntu newbie here, though familiar with linux. Is there a way I can install firefox 1.5?
[05:45] <JoeBlow> BirdyKiller, youd be supprised how often it is the user name, or "Password"
[05:45] <JoeBlow> trappist, u joke, but often its true
[05:45] <ompaul> JoeBlow, sudoers - I am looking for the syntax but you can also look at the man page
[05:46] <mutRec> And if I want to modificate some parametres of my ubuntu kernel... where I must to go? I try in /usr/src/ or /boot/ or /boot/grub but I don't see my kernel source??
[05:46] <JoeBlow> ompaul, dont worry about it, ill find it later
[05:46] <BirdyKiller> JoeBlow, yeah, I found "jesus" was insanely common too
[05:46] <jenda> There we go... finally :)
[05:46] <BlueDevil> !firefox15
[05:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[05:46] <JoeBlow> BirdyKiller, lol
[05:46] <trappist> mutRec: sudo apt-get source kernel-image-$(uname -r)
[05:46] <FieldySnuts> BlueDevil: thanks :)
[05:46] <BlueDevil> FieldySnuts: yw
[05:47] <JoeBlow> ompaul, or name = John , User= Hacker, Password = John
[05:47] <Hawk|-> sexcopter8000m, and is it working?
[05:47] <pureone> you know whats even more fun PermitEmptyPasswords yes in sshd_config
[05:47] <mutRec> lot of thanks trappist... right... uname -r for to know kernel release... on command... right...
[05:47] <Chousuke> The passwords to the computers at my old school seem to follow a pattern
[05:47] <JoeBlow> BirdyKiller, or name = John , User= Hacker, Password = John
[05:47] <ompaul> JoeBlow, would that have been for trappist
[05:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, who?
[05:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, lol
[05:48] <mutRec> good bye for everyone!
[05:48] <Chousuke> password1, pass1word, pass2word, password3, and recent reports tell me it's now pass4word
[05:48] <Tardis107> bye
[05:48] <FieldySnuts> yikes. was hoping it wouldn't be so manual, i think i'll wait till it's in the "standard" repos.
[05:48] <strider> Tardis107: sorry missed that. then build-essential will be fine ;)
[05:48] <Tardis107> lol Chousuke
[05:48] <trappist> FieldySnuts: have to wait for dapper drake then
[05:49] <BirdyKiller> I prefer passw0rd...  It has a 0 in it, and that's the strongest shape on the keyboard
[05:49] <JoeBlow> BirdyKiller, agreed
[05:49] <SuperLag> Any of you guys successfully set up LDAP authentication on your *ubuntu installs?
[05:49] <trappist> but seriously, my password wants uppercase, lowercase, numbers, a space and a non-printable character like pagedown
[05:49] <Chousuke> qwerty is popular too!
[05:50] <trappist> can't use pagedown during setup, but passwd takes it just fine
[05:50] <trappist> so do sudo, ssh etc.
[05:50] <BirdyKiller> I hate password rules, though
[05:51] <BirdyKiller> you end up with 50 different passwords that all require the same crappy rules
[05:51] <BlueDevil> i had an ex coleague of mine set up the root password as ctrl-shift-alt-enter
[05:51] <molinero> Hello ubuntu users!
[05:51] <molinero> greetings from Mexico
[05:51] <kameron> FieldySnuts: i just downloaded from http://www.mozilla.org/ and the installer works fine
[05:51] <trappist> BirdyKiller: without password rules you end up with a network full of passwords like 'password'
[05:51] <BirdyKiller> and then you have to change passwords every 30 days or whatever....  so I end up doing "01p4$sw0rd" on january, "02p4$sw0rd" in february, etc.
[05:52] <Jowi> BirdyKiller: what, not "12345" ?
[05:52] <FieldySnuts> kameron: right but i'm not interested in the breakages that page claims. i'd rather be able to apt-get it. i'll wait.
[05:52] <trappist> BirdyKiller: yeah I don't dig password expiry.  you get users with 30 passwords that change every few weeks and have to be secure, and they start taping them to their monitors because they're impossible to remember.
[05:52] <trappist> FieldySnuts: no breakage here
[05:53] <kameron> FieldySnuts: sure, just wait for updated package, shouldnt' be long
[05:53] <BirdyKiller> I'm good but I just can't do it... I count 60 passwords in my password managing software
[05:53] <BirdyKiller> a good quarter of them expire every 30-90 days
[05:53] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[05:53] <jenda> Us dvorakers have it easy with passwords... instead of " qwerty ", we type " ',.py " :)
[05:54] <trappist> those dvorakers have all the luck
[05:54] <Tardis107> jenda: from?
[05:54] <BirdyKiller> lol
[05:54] <jenda> Tardis107: from?
[05:54] <BirdyKiller> hey jenda your nvidia working perfectly?
[05:54] <Inf3ctedFx> I use Partition Magic on windows partition and I just rezise my windows partiton and give more space to set linux partition, but now I dont know hoe to merge linux partition with the new one I just made any idea?
[05:54] <BirdyKiller> or did you just get the driver installed?
[05:54] <jenda> BirdyKiller: It seems :)
[05:55] <trappist> I like biometric passwords. place the tip of your nose on 'a' and roll your head to the right.
[05:55] <BirdyKiller> I want to see if you have the same issue as I do
[05:55] <BirdyKiller> have you rebooted since you installed the drivers?
[05:55] <jenda> Tardis107: Dvorak is an english layout
[05:55] <syl> hi... i want to get ksocrat-data package from multiverse but apt-get can't find it there though i can see it in Packages.gz file
[05:55] <Tardis107> ahh ok jenda
[05:55] <jenda> BirdyKiller: no, not yet
[05:55] <Tardis107> im from UK
[05:55] <Davey`> Tardis107: I'm so sorry
[05:56] <BirdyKiller> jenda, if you have the same issue as I do it won't work... you'll have to do everything all over after a reboot.. that's where I'm stuck
[05:56] <FieldySnuts> trappist: heh.
[05:56] <BirdyKiller> jenda, probably because I'm so damned tired at this point... I've tried mkinitrd and whatnot, I can't find anything that would be changing the settings..
[05:56] <jenda> BirdyKiller: And how did you install it?
[05:56] <miketech> Hi
[05:57] <dawid> hi
[05:57] <trappist> jenda: you still messing with the nvidia drivers?
[05:57] <BirdyKiller> jenda, typical sh nvidia....... etc
[05:57] <miketech> how can i test the current ubuntu development snapshot?
[05:57] <BirdyKiller> I am, he may have it fixed :)
[05:57] <Tardis107> Davey`: why so sorry Davey`?
[05:57] <jenda> trappist: done, I hope
[05:57] <Davey`> Tardis107: I'm an ex-pat ;)
[05:57] <trappist> BirdyKiller: what seems to be the problem
[05:57] <miketech> there are dapper install ISOs from 14th of december. is this the latest version?
[05:58] <BirdyKiller> trappist, finally got drivers installed but they're gone after reboot... I can get you the error in a second
[05:58] <Tardis107> Davey`:pat meaning...
[05:58] <Davey`> patriot
[05:58] <Chousuke> miketech: latest preview I suppose.
[05:58] <gnomefreak> dapper is not even in testing yet its still alpha
[05:58] <Chousuke> miketech: Dapper changes constantly until the freeze.
[05:58] <Davey`> Tardis107: I'm still technically British, but I live in Florida now. Its tonnes better. And cheaper :)
[05:58] <miketech> yeah sure, it is not for a productive system
[05:58] <strider> miketech: there are snapshots
[05:58] <strider> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily-live/current/
[05:59] <miketech> ah thanks
[05:59] <Tardis107> Davey`:smooth move - you should buy a flat near orlando and rent it out to tourists
[05:59] <Chousuke> miketech: I would probably use it only if I was doing development on it
[05:59] <Chousuke> Hmm
[05:59] <ltorvalds2006> Hey, guys, can anyone help me here?
[05:59] <echeese> What repositories should I use?
[05:59] <Davey`> Tardis107: heh, my sis-in-law is an ex-estate-agent, from the horror stories, I think I'll pass :)
[05:59] <gnomefreak> ltorvalds2006, dont know what is the issue?
[05:59] <Davey`> Tardis107: I'm only 90 minutes from Orlando though :)
[06:00] <miketech> strider, but these are only live cds :)
[06:00] <BirdyKiller> bah I'll have to reboot it to get the error again I didn't save it anywhere...
[06:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell echeese about sources
[06:00] <Tardis107> Davey`: I guess it all depends on how much time/financial freedom you have
[06:00] <Chousuke> I wonder how many developers use Xen and install dapper as a virtual machine.
[06:00] <miketech> Chousuke, yeah exactly :)
[06:00] <Tardis107> Davey`90 minutes!!!
[06:00] <ltorvalds2006> I have just recently installed a second hard drive on my Ubuntu system, and Ubuntu is not seeing the second hard drive.
[06:01] <ltorvalds2006> In fact, the only hard drive Ubuntu sees is the one on which the OS was installed.
[06:01] <pureone> ltorvalds2006, fdisk -l as root
[06:01] <miketech> and there is no installation cd of ubuntu? only the live-cd?
[06:01] <miketech> i mean of the current snapshot
[06:02] <ltorvalds2006> "fdisk -l" as root, to find the second hard drive?
[06:02] <trappist> doh
[06:02] <dawid> how can i extract a *.* file oftype "rar"
[06:02] <strider> miketech: sorry
[06:02] <pureone> ltorvalds2006, to see if its there
[06:02] <strider> miketech: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[06:02] <deFrysk> dawid, sudo apt-get install rar-nonfree
[06:02] <pureone> dawid unrar e *.rar
[06:02] <miketech> ah great thanks
[06:02] <dawid> hehe thanks
[06:03] <strider> miketech: I upgraded from Breezy myself. check cdimage.ubuntu.com formore options
[06:03] <ltorvalds2006> Thanks, guys, I'll try it!
[06:03] <BirdyKiller> what's the difference between "generic default" and "generic" kernels anyways?
[06:04] <pureone> ltorvalds2006, if its there and you can see it then just format it to whatever filesystem you like and update fstab
[06:04] <kameron> BirdyKiller: one is default
[06:04] <miketech> ok
[06:04] <Tardis107> Poll:type SHIPIT if you know about ubuntu's shipit service
[06:04] <ltorvalds2006> er... "update fstab"?  how so?
[06:04] <pureone> vim /etc/fstab
[06:04] <pureone> man mount
[06:04] <r0bby___> ok good question what does this mean:
[06:04] <gnomefreak> Tardis107, everyone should know about it
[06:05] <Tardis107> hopefully gnome :)
[06:05] <r0bby___> 'can't recate mcop directory'\
[06:05] <BirdyKiller> trappist, "API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7667, but this X module is version 1.0.8178...please be sure they all have the same version"
[06:05] <echeese> thanks gnomefreak and ubotu
[06:05] <ltorvalds2006> i know how to access the "fstab" file... but what am i to put into it?
[06:05] <r0bby___> ubotu, , tell me about mcop
[06:05] <Tardis107> gnomefreak: have you ordered from shipit?
[06:05] <pureone> man mount will explain it ltorvalds2006
[06:05] <r0bby___> :x
[06:06] <ltorvalds2006> ok
[06:06] <yggdrasil> cool
[06:06] <ltorvalds2006> i'll get on that as soon as i can
[06:06] <gnomefreak> Tardis107, yes
[06:06] <r0bby___> ltorvalds2006 would know everything \
[06:06] <r0bby___> since if he's Linus Torvalds, wrote the kernel :)
[06:07] <echeese> heh
[06:07] <echeese> "man mount"
[06:07] <echeese> that's so gay
[06:07] <r0bby___> echeese, yeh I know
[06:07] <ltorvalds2006> r0bby___, i'm not the REAL Linus Torvalds
[06:07] <deFrysk> ltorvalds2006, should u not be in #kubuntu ? ;p
[06:07] <r0bby___> so hard to use manpages
[06:07] <pureone> yeah
[06:07] <r0bby___> imposter!
[06:07] <pureone> god forbid people actuly learn
[06:07] <dawid> can sum1 help me extract a rar file
[06:07] <ltorvalds2006> not entirely
[06:08] <dawid> when i try and right click and say extract it says "
[06:08] <dawid> Archive type not supported."
[06:08] <deFrysk> dawid, rightclick it in nautilus
[06:08] <deFrysk> dawid, sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[06:08] <dawid> deFrysk : That package is not found
[06:08] <dawid> and yes i have enabled the universals
[06:08] <ompaul> !tell echeese about gay
[06:08] <deFrysk> dawid, also enable multiverse
[06:08] <pureone> apt-cache search ^unrar
[06:09] <r0bby___> so what does "can't create mcop directory"
[06:09] <deFrysk> !info unrar-nonfree
[06:09] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 83 kB, Installed size: 216 kB
[06:09] <ompaul> echeese, I am not, nor do I care to know your own opinion but this is a G rated channel and we like to keep it that way :)
[06:09] <phos-phoros> fuck
[06:09] <phos-phoros> oops
[06:09] <pureone> what does the g stand for *grins*
[06:10] <r0bby___> g stands for curse and be +q'd
[06:10] <echeese> no comment
[06:10] <jenda> phos-phoros: watch the language
[06:10] <gnomefreak> phos-phoros, he said g rated :(
[06:10] <yarko> Hi All! I am trying to put ubuntu 5.10 on my chiefs Powerbook but apparently I need to have patched kernel to detect CDROM  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18579
[06:10] <pureone> hehe
[06:10] <yarko> could anyone point me to some description on how to rebuild the image or to say installation kernel since there is howto rebuild the image  http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuRemastering
[06:10] <phos-phoros> my apologies
[06:10] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:10] <r0bby___> ever watch a disney movie and see them curse?
[06:10] <pureone> yeah
[06:10] <molinero> Somebody instalated in powepc?
[06:10] <dawid> deFrysk :I Have enabled all repos that were available includeing extras added
[06:10] <ompaul> echeese, :)
[06:10] <pureone> im used to the UK film ratings :)
[06:10] <pureone> in the uk its PG
[06:10] <r0bby___> well then this is pg
[06:10] <r0bby___> now
[06:10] <deFrysk> dawid, add multiverse to the universe lines
[06:10] <r0bby___> keep it pg
[06:11] <ompaul> pureone, no G = U or E in the UK
[06:11] <deFrysk> !repos
[06:11] <dawid> k
[06:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:11] <pureone> ah
[06:11] <ompaul> general / universal / exempt
[06:11] <deFrysk> dawid, read what ubotu just said
[06:11] <ompaul> !anyone
[06:11] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[06:11] <BirdyKiller> trappist, you have to tease me like that?  get me started and hopeful and then not say anything? :'(
[06:11] <zeyad> anybody can help me in installing Jap on ubuntu?
[06:11] <JoeBlow> can anyone successfully register here http://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/newstore/register.jsp?status=new
[06:12] <dawid> ty
[06:12] <pureone> well im not going to swear :)
[06:12] <echeese> Is it safe to use the dapper sources and upgrade?
[06:12] <BirdyKiller> echeese, it's not even safe to leave your house
[06:12] <gnomefreak> safe dapper?
[06:12] <echeese> BirdyKiller, I've known that for years :|
[06:12] <JoeBlow> someone wanna see if they can find "Community Program" here http://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/newstore/register.jsp?status=new
[06:12] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:13] <gnomefreak> echeese, dapper has more broken packages than you want right now :)
[06:13] <zeyad> I need help in installing jap on Ubuntu
[06:13] <BirdyKiller> JoeBlow, nope.. I'm not answering any more of your questions until my nvidia issue is settled :) even if it means buying women for every man who works on the drivers and kernel
[06:13] <jenda> !codecs
[06:13] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[06:13] <zeyad> ???
[06:13] <ompaul> echeese, you can use it in April on or after the 20th when it is a released
[06:14] <echeese> BAH.
[06:14] <JoeBlow> BirdyKiller, whats the problem, ive never dealt with nvidia, but u can try me
[06:14] <phos-phoros> I have set dma = on and cd_speed to the appropriate setting in hdparm.conf for my dvd drive, installed libdvdcss, mplayer/mplayer fonts and xine...and I am having problems with automount/mounting dvds, any help would be greatly appreciated
[06:14] <ompaul> echeese, in the mean time if you want to gamble you can install it but it is broken in parts and will remain like that with more and more changes until release day
[06:15] <BirdyKiller> JoeBlow, well problem #68 is what I pasted a minute ago to trappist...
[06:15] <gnomefreak> !info jap
[06:15] <phos-phoros> I can mount some dvds, just not what I would assume to be copywrite protected/encrypted discs even
[06:15] <phos-phoros> *copyright
[06:15] <dawid> THANKS de Frysk and the rest i got it to install now :-)
[06:15] <zeyad> any body can help me in installing JAP???
[06:15] <echeese> ompaul, oh dear, and there's no way to get rid of it?
[06:15] <gnomefreak> they still havent fixed the locales issue :(
[06:16] <ompaul> echeese, did you install the full beastie?
[06:16] <echeese> Not yet
[06:16] <gnomefreak> echeese, you have to re-install breezy :)
[06:16] <ompaul> echeese, so then you have breezy stay like that :)
[06:17] <BirdyKiller> JoeBlow, I'm assuming something was not fully removed from ubuntu's nvidia drivers and it's screwing up my config somehow when I reboot
[06:17] <BirdyKiller> JoeBlow, but at this point I'm just confused
[06:17] <delire> can someone confirm whether the stock breezy kernel comes with the serial_8250 module precompiled, or compiled into the kernel?
[06:18] <Ng> delire: [4294670.507000]  Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 48 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
[06:18] <delire> eg, for those running breezy that have never compiled a kernel, could you? modprobe -l | grep serial_8250.
[06:18] <gnomefreak> stock kernel?
[06:18] <Ng> delire: that is in my dmesg, so it looks like it
[06:18] <delire> Ng: cheers
[06:18] <jean> salu sa fart?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> breezy has gone through 3 kernels if not more
[06:18] <delire> gnomefreak 2.6.12-10 is what i'm interested in.
[06:19] <nics__> BirdyKiller: the nvidia installer puts the defaultdepth to 24 which is wrong, needs to be 16, thats sometimes helps
[06:19] <ompaul> !fr
[06:19] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:19] <dawid> so does any1 have experience using cedega? or win4lin?
[06:19] <r0bby___> :-)
[06:19] <burumbu> finally solved it: /apps/metacity/general/mouse_button_modifier=disable in gconf-editor (to get rid of menu window popping when pressing ALT+mouse button)
[06:19] <delire> Ng: do you mind me asking what your system is?
[06:19] <jean> salu tu taplle commen? sex??in
[06:19] <delire> Ng: thinkpad?
[06:19] <phos-phoros> nics__, why is the default color depth of 24bit wrong?
[06:19] <phos-phoros> works fine with fglrx
[06:20] <darkritual> Any one here to help me with my surround set?
[06:20] <nics__> phos-phoros: for the nvidia driver, does not seem to like it
[06:20] <gnomefreak> jean try #ubuntu-fr
[06:20] <ompaul> Seveas, !!!!
[06:20] <Ng> delire: a dell latitude d600
[06:20] <burning_bronx> ah it's the gnomefreak
[06:20] <delire> Ng: do you have a Connexant modem onboard?
[06:20] <burning_bronx> how's the holidays :P
[06:20] <gnomefreak> yep :)
[06:21] <gnomefreak> good and yours?
[06:21] <burning_bronx> I am kinda sick
[06:21] <burning_bronx> flu killed me
[06:21] <gnomefreak> sorry to hear that
[06:21] <nics__> well actually it does but certain configs bugger up
[06:21] <burning_bronx> I'll live through it
[06:21] <ves_> Would anybody have any ideas why on boot I can't cd into my home directory with an "Unable to open /home/gavin" dir despite the permissions, ownership, and having myself added to the sudoers, and the only way to startx is via root?
[06:22] <delire> ves_ likely the directory isn't exectuble. should read drwx...
[06:22] <trappist> ves_: you're positive about permissions?  what are the permissions?
[06:22] <gnomefreak> ves_,  i dont remember haivng to be root to use startx
[06:22] <Ng> delire: not sure, I'm on a company LAN, sorry
[06:22] <ves_> I'm positive about the persmissions..
[06:23] <ves_> I've went as far to chmod 777 my whole home dir
[06:23] <delire> 'ls -l /home/you'
[06:23] <jean> salu sa fart
[06:23] <jean> je sui brice de nice le roi de la pice?
[06:23] <jean> in in oue
[06:23] <delire> ves_ that's just the contents, not the directory itself.
[06:23] <delire> a directory is a file.
[06:23] <r0bby___> english only please
[06:23] <trappist> !fr
[06:23] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:23] <BirdyKiller> nics__, that's not it... getting the "the NVIDIA kernel module is 1.0.7667, but this X module is version 1.0.8178.  Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have the same version"
[06:23] <delire> Ng: right, cheers
[06:23] <ves_> delire: I did chown -R gavin:gavin /home/gavin and chmod 755 -R /home/gavin?
[06:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jean about fr
[06:24] <dawid> DOES any1 object to me installing Win4Lin, or is there any reason why it could ruin my distro?
[06:24] <nics__> BirdyKiller: ahh ok, you upgraded the kernel?
[06:24] <ves_> added myself to sudoers and yet any time I try and login it gives Unable to open cd /home/gavin
[06:24] <Ng> delire: lspci suggests it's an intel modem anyway, sorry
[06:24] <w-mute> Hey, folks. During installation I get a hang with a blue screen just before the partitioner starts up. Any ideas why?
[06:24] <ompaul> jean,   >>>>/join #ubuntu-fr<<<<<<<< pour vous!!!!
[06:24] <yggdrasil> Hey folks thatnks for all the help
[06:24] <nics__> ves_: whatabout the perms on /home ?
[06:24] <delire> ves_ paste the output of 'ls -l /home | grep gavin'
[06:24] <trappist> nics__: good thinkin
[06:24] <ves_> k, the machines up stairs and I can't ssh atm so two seconds
[06:24] <nics__> cheers :-)
[06:25] <BirdyKiller> nics__, I upgraded kernel before I installed the drivers... several reboots in between and I've re-installed em since.. it does it everytime I reboot I have to re-install drivers
[06:25] <dawid> how can i edit my partitions from within ubuntu, i stil have free space?
[06:25] <ves_> nics__, delire: drwxr-xr-x gavin gavin
[06:25] <ompaul> dawid, fdisk will walk you though it if you know the partition name
[06:26] <nics__> BirdyKiller: if I remember getting my dapper install working I had to upgrade the restricted kernel modules as well and then re-install the nvidia drivers, all from synaptic
[06:26] <dawid> ty
[06:26] <ubuntu__> hello
[06:26] <nics__> ves_: and on /home itself?
[06:26] <ompaul> dawid, I presume you mean that you want to bring more space to ubuntu - not change existing sizes
[06:26] <Jowi> delire and the rest. dont think it is either a non-existent user problem or a userdir permission problem. new users get the same error.
[06:26] <burning_bronx> yo
[06:26] <BirdyKiller> nics__, can't even get into synaptic at the moment but I'll give it a shot...
[06:26] <dawid> yes :-)
[06:26] <ves_> nics__: two secs again sorry :)
[06:26] <nics__> BirdyKiller: oops :-) should have realised that
[06:26] <Jowi> delire: ves_ problem that is. anyway, need to go.
[06:26] <ubuntu__> im on the live cd in linux, ive never had the internet before, whats there to do in linux now? :D . Is it possible to change colorso f things etc?
[06:27] <delire> Jowi so it's a known bug of some sort?
[06:27] <Ng> ubuntu__: system->preferences->theme
[06:27] <Ng> ubuntu__: as for what is there to do, have a look through the applications menu
[06:27] <BirdyKiller> done an apt-get dist-upgrade and update and I'm out of new stuff there
[06:27] <trappist> ves_: why not try creating a new user and starting from scratch thusly
[06:27] <Jowi> delire: not a bug, ves_ system got messed up and is now using the recovery mode
[06:27] <Jowi> night all
[06:27] <Ng> ubuntu__: but there are many many more things that aren't installed, there are thousands of ubuntu packages available online :)
[06:27] <delire> thanks, bye
[06:27] <nics__> BirdyKiller: could always change the driver back to nv in xorg.conf for the time being
[06:27] <ubuntu__> anything what can make it do cool stuff? ;o
[06:28] <teclis> Does anyone know a good graphical svn-client?
[06:28] <ompaul> ubuntu_, 17500
[06:28] <BirdyKiller> nics__, I have to use nvidia one because nv crashes on me
[06:28] <ompaul> ubuntu_, define cool
[06:28] <ubuntu__> i thought that would come up, and im not sure how i can define cool
[06:28] <ubuntu__> but what can you do more on linux then windows?
[06:28] <w-mute> Thanks, folks. I got it. There was a windows partition on the HD and everything works smoothly since I removed it.
[06:28] <ves_> trappist: I've tried that but I get the same error
[06:29] <ubuntu__> can i install java using live cd and try a dl ?
[06:29] <nics__> BirdyKiller: really? bugga thats not good
[06:29] <ves_> unable to cd to the users home dir
[06:29] <ompaul> ubuntu_, one persons cool is another persons drool, as I was told by some school kids, who installed Ubuntu themselves
[06:29] <gnomefreak> ompaul, thats base sources.list with just universe right? (17500)
[06:29] <burning_bronx> ubuntu__, you need to have an idea of what you want to do
[06:29] <ves_> nics__: /home is drwxr-xr-x root root
[06:29] <ubuntu__> i want to get gaim back open
[06:29] <BirdyKiller> nics__, yeah.. I'm thinking maybe if I reinstall again from scratch and try over...
[06:29] <trappist> ves_: anything in dmesg?
[06:29] <ompaul> gnomefreak, think so
[06:29] <BirdyKiller> nics__, but this is already a scratch install
[06:29] <C-O-L-T> hello
[06:29] <ubuntu__> i closed it and im still chatting but its dissapeared
[06:29] <nics__> lol
[06:29] <C-O-L-T> who can help to me?
[06:29] <ves_> trappist: two secs again :) man I'm getting a workout
[06:29] <ompaul> gnomefreak, now you have me doubting myself
[06:29] <delire> ves_ and /home/gavin?
[06:29] <trappist> C-O-L-T: nobody if you don't ask a question
[06:29] <gnomefreak> ompaul, lol
[06:30] <ompaul> !tell C-O-L-T about enter
[06:30] <BirdyKiller> hmm maybe i can grep 1.0.7667 and see WHAT is referring to that version
[06:30] <C-O-L-T> I have Kubuntu but I installed GNOME. Everything works fine the only problem is that I can not play music with Rythmbox!
[06:30] <C-O-L-T> I can play media with Totem xine
[06:30] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_, right click and configure the bottom bar and i think its taskmanager you want back on bar
[06:30] <nics__> BirdyKiler: you tried seeing what sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade thinks needs upgrading?
[06:30] <ubuntu__> how do you change the port in BitTorrent-GNOME
[06:30] <C-O-L-T> and I had to download xine engine for amarok and kaffeine too
[06:30] <polpak> C-O-L-T, did you install all the gstreamer codecs?
[06:31] <dawid> NTFS Write is not supported, wht not?
[06:31] <BirdyKiller> nics__, yup
[06:31] <Seveas> dawid, it's still unsafe
[06:31] <burning_bronx> dawid, it could kill your system big time :)
[06:31] <dawid> yes but whats the holdup..
[06:31] <BirdyKiller> nics__, 0 left
[06:31] <burning_bronx> you're free to try
[06:31] <polpak> dawid, too much potential to damage your system
[06:31] <C-O-L-T> polpak: I need xine not gstreamer, I needed xine on Kubuntu too
[06:31] <trappist> dawid: ntfs is very hard to reverse-engineer.  there will be write support in 2.6.15 though.
[06:31] <ompaul> dawid, cos the nice people that own it will not tell the world how to interoperate with it
[06:31] <dawid> i mean i know M$ create crap i deas but it cant be that difficult
[06:31] <ves_> http://gav.brokentrain.net/upload/syslog
[06:31] <burning_bronx> dawid, actually if you have your ntfs system backed up you should really try ntfs write
[06:31] <burning_bronx> :P
[06:31] <dawid> u mean M$ wont give out how it works
[06:31] <polpak> C-O-L-T, rhythmnbox uses gstreamer afaik
[06:31] <burning_bronx> help with feedback
[06:31] <Seveas> dawid, indeed
[06:32] <ves_> delire: same thing only with gavin gavin
[06:32] <bash0> hi guys
[06:32] <dawid> burning_bronx : There is no way im turning experimental writing on.. nooo my music and movies.. nooo
[06:32] <C-O-L-T> popak: so what to do then?
[06:32] <ubuntu__> hello? -.-
[06:32] <bash0> got myself breeze onto my lappy! really nice OS!!
[06:32] <trappist> dawid: you underestimate how hard it is.  you open the filesystem in a hex editor, make a small change, see what happened, kiss your filesystem goodbye, make a new one, rinse and repeat.
[06:32] <polpak> C-O-L-T, install all the gstreamer codecs
[06:32] <BirdyKiller> nics__, maybe I can just setup an ssh server and tell my brother he can have $50 and one of my best cigars if he fixes it...
[06:32] <polpak> ubotu tell C-O-L-T about restriced
[06:33] <strokey> How do i install Sun Java on linux? :x
[06:33] <bash0> i love the fancy startup script... using sid on my desktop and it's really a fancy laptop now
[06:33] <ves_> trouble started about 15:32:39
[06:33] <polpak> ubotu tell strokey about restriced
[06:33] <trappist> BirdyKiller: I'll volunteer to be your brother
[06:33] <trappist> !tell strokey about java
[06:33] <dawid> trappist : Well since i heard the word reverse-engineer im going to shutup cause i just so happen to know how complex HEX editing is.. hehe
[06:33] <BirdyKiller> trappist, you haven't said a single thing to me since you asked what the problem was :)
[06:33] <polpak> strokey, read the restriced wiki, it's there
[06:33] <C-O-L-T> polpak: I say again that I have Kubuntu and I just installed GNOME. Everything works in Kubuntu mp3, avi, with xine engines
[06:33] <polpak> strokey, as are many other helpful hints
[06:33] <bash0> could you tell me how i could get sw-suspend to work without loosing the fancy startup script?
[06:33] <delire> ves_ i really don't know what's up. you can't 'sudo cd /home/gavin'?
[06:33] <C-O-L-T> polpak: And Totem works with xine
[06:33] <trappist> BirdyKiller: sorry, I stepped away and may have missed something :)
[06:34] <polpak> C-O-L-T, I know that. But you want to use rhythmnbox which uses gstreamer
[06:34] <yggdrasil> xchat still has a bit of problems with transperency
[06:34] <ves_> delire: I can do that as root, but not as 'gavin' because I can't login to gavin
[06:34] <yggdrasil> kinda lame
[06:34] <polpak> C-O-L-T, so you need gstreamer plugins.
[06:34] <nics__> BirdyKiller: lol. have you checked what nvidia packages you have installed?
[06:34] <C-O-L-T> polpak: how to get that
[06:34] <ves_> sudo cd /home/gavin as root gives an unable to open /etc/sudoers permission denied error
[06:34] <trappist> ves_: if you're root, can you su to gavin?
[06:34] <bash0> any laptop users in here? know a laptop channel for ubuntu users?
[06:34] <burning_bronx> I am a laptop user >.>
[06:34] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, add my repo and install ubuntu-multimedia-gnome to get all you need for multimedia on gnome
[06:34] <polpak> C-O-L-T, ubotu just told you. Go to the restriced formats wiki
[06:34] <Seveas> that's the easiest
[06:34] <burning_bronx> it's the same stiff - only diff hardware
[06:34] <BirdyKiller> trappist, I thought I removed em all, but I don't know the command to check :)
[06:35] <delire> ves_ well you don't need to sudo if you're root.
[06:35] <bash0> burning_bronx: you got software suspend working with ubuntu?
[06:35] <trappist> BirdyKiller: removed all what?  command to check what?
[06:35] <sovvy2009> Hey all - whos heard of micronations?
[06:35] <ves_> delire: I'm only root through the recovery console
[06:35] <StarKruzr> burning_bronx: are you actually from the Bronx?
[06:35] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: how to add your repo
[06:35] <BirdyKiller> trappist, removed all nvidia packages, command to check if any linger
[06:35] <delire> ves_ in other words you saying you can't cd /home/gavin as root? bizarre.
[06:35] <Seveas> !tell C-O-L-T about seveas
[06:35] <bash0> sure why would he name himself like that if he wouldnt be? :-P
[06:35] <ves_> delire: I can't login to root anywhere else, cause the login is invalid or something
[06:35] <BirdyKiller> I'm sure that's the problem I just can't FIND em anywhere
[06:35] <trappist> BirdyKiller: dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[06:35] <polpak> tell ves_ about root
[06:35] <delire> ves_ is this an old system?
[06:35] <polpak> !tell ves_ about root
[06:35] <delire> polpak he knows about root..
[06:35] <ves_> delire: no, breezy
[06:36] <bash0> !tell me about swsuspend
[06:36] <polpak> Delgul_at_work, oh
[06:36] <burning_bronx> StarKruzr, if I was from the bronx I wouldn't ever put such a nickname on
[06:36] <bash0> aah ubotu... nice name
[06:36] <kremonte> is there anyway to install ubuntu w/ a wireless network w/ a wep key?
[06:36] <StarKruzr> O_o
[06:36] <polpak> delire, err... You sure?
[06:36] <StarKruzr> dude
[06:36] <bash0> ubet ubotu
[06:36] <strokey> can someone just pm me in how to install java, thats all i wanna do :o
[06:36] <StarKruzr> I'M from the Bronx and it wouldn't bother me terribly.  :p
[06:36] <ves_> adduser deluser, works fine but I can't loging to the newly created account with the same erro "unable to cd /home/xxx"
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kremonte about install
[06:36] <polpak> strokey, I had ubotu do that already
[06:36] <BirdyKiller> trappist, thanks.  apt-get and I have to have a little talk.  I see nvidia-glx even though I distinctly remember removing it.
[06:36] <bash0> strokey did you try dpkg -i javapackage ?
[06:36] <polpak> ubotu tell strokey about restricted
[06:37] <strokey> that tells me lots of other info polpak , thats not helpful :/
[06:37] <bash0> wow DangerMouse!!
[06:37] <polpak> strokey, even the part called "Installing SUN Java" ????
[06:37] <bash0> the famouse DM is back
[06:37] <delire> ves_ so when you boot up you're just a dumped to a root prompt?
[06:37] <ves_> delire: yeah, basically
[06:37] <ves_> and I can't even login from there
[06:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell strokey about java
[06:38] <ves_> need to stick in the install disk and boot recovery
[06:38] <strokey> !javadebs
[06:38] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[06:38] <BirdyKiller> trappist, there's also an nvidia-kernel-common, but I can't remove it without removing linux-amd64-generic etc.
[06:38] <nics__> BirdyKiller: I have nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel-common and nvidia-settings installed
[06:38] <PerryJr> hello
[06:38] <TaQ> hello there! the Ubuntu graphical package manager is Smart, right?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> everyone alwasy takes the easy way :(
[06:38] <kremonte> can't find anyone on the wiki =/
[06:38] <ves_> delire: the trouble all started with an accidental ctrl+c during a make install, installing banshee
[06:38] <kremonte> anytghing*
[06:38] <trappist> TaQ: define smart.
[06:38] <kremonte> anything* >.>
[06:38] <BirdyKiller> nics__, but are you using nvidia drivers from their website?
[06:38] <gnomefreak> what are people gonna do when that server dies?
[06:38] <delire> ves_ quite bizarre. i'd reinstall.
[06:39] <bash0> so guys... u dont use software suspend hu?
[06:39] <TaQ> trappist, http://zorked.net/smart/doc/README.html
[06:39] <ves_> delire: that's what I'm thinking :(
[06:39] <burning_bronx> reinstall is for wimps :P
[06:39] <polpak> gnomefreak, that's why I always point them to the restricted format wiki
[06:39] <nics__> BirdyKiller: no from synaptic repositries
[06:39] <trappist> bash0: software suspend works on some laptops and not others
[06:39] <ves_> damn
[06:39] <BirdyKiller> nics__, that's the issue :P
[06:39] <trappist> TaQ: no thanks
[06:39] <delire> ves_ it will take less time to reinstall this partially installed system that it would to recover a broken one. as far as i can see login itself is not installed properly. you could try a 'dpkg --configure -a'
[06:39] <gnomefreak> polpak, i shouldnt say anyting i use a java repo :(
[06:39] <bash0> trappist: yah it works on mine... fact is i don't know if there's a ubuntu swsuspend or something
[06:39] <polpak> gnomefreak, =p
[06:39] <TaQ> trappist, but is that graphical package manager that comes by default with Ubuntu ?
[06:40] <nics__> BirdyKiller: if its any comfort they work fine and I have xcompmgr making it look loooovely
[06:40] <ves_> delire: I'll give that a try and failing that reinstall unless anyone else has anything else to try..
[06:40] <BirdyKiller> nics__, they don't work on newer geforce cards
[06:40] <trappist> TaQ: synaptic is... and there are others
[06:40] <delire> ves_ ok, good luck.
[06:40] <Stork> i forget how to install java :\ lol
[06:40] <delire> nics__ screenshot?
[06:40] <ves_> delire: cheers for your time and help though
[06:40] <TaQ> trappist, oh man, both with "s", I messed the things. thanks!
[06:40] <nics__> BirdyKiller: really? mine is a g-force go5200 ( ? ) I think
[06:40] <delire> ves_ no problem. good luck there ;)
[06:40] <polpak> ubotu tell Stork about restricted
[06:40] <trappist> bash0: it's not ubuntu-specific.  every laptop I've ever seen will do a software suspend, but they're not all supported by linux.
[06:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Stork about java
[06:41] <ves_> delire: I can even boot X on root, so failing that I could just root forever! :)
[06:41] <Stork> i followed the tutorial on help.ubuntu.com but i don't know how to set the environmental variables
[06:41] <nics__> delire: where can i send one?
[06:41] <delire> ves_ hmm, not wise ;)
[06:41] <trappist> Stork: export VARIABLE=value
[06:41] <ves_> delire: :)
[06:41] <polpak> Stork, yeah.. you should check the wiki. It explains how to specify which version of java you want to use as 'java' on your system
[06:41] <BirdyKiller> nics__, geforce 7800 doesn't like em much..  no idea why but it seems to be a widespread problem.  Stock install from ubuntu CD left me with a crashed system.  Had to use my reset button for the very first time
[06:42] <delire> nics__ it's not important. you could use flicker or even http://www.lynucs.org/
[06:42] <StarKruzr> I miss having a dog.
[06:43] <nics__> BirdyKiller: nightmare, suprised the generic nv drivers don't work though as they aren't from nvidia and just do 2d stuff
[06:43] <dawid> what do we do wit *.rpm ?
[06:43] <trappist> dawid: you mostly ignore them
[06:43] <dawid> hehe
[06:43] <StarKruzr> dawid: you can use a tool called alien to make .debs out of them.
[06:44] <polpak> dawid, well you can use alien to turn it into a deb, but you should try to find suitable deb replacements if you can
[06:44] <nics__> delire: I'll pass then for the mo :-) just have it set so that windows fade in and out with a drop shadow, all very nice but you HAVE to hardware acceleration for it to be usable
[06:44] <trappist> dawid: if you *had* to install an rpm you could use alien to convert it to .deb
[06:44] <dawid> okay thanks.. thats what i wanted to know, i have a deb and a rpm so obviously ill go with deb :-)
[06:44] <StarKruzr> trappist: does that carry over the dependencies too?
[06:45] <delire> nics__ np
[06:45] <trappist> StarKruzr: packages built for a completely different system with different package naming conventions can't really translate dependencies like that, so no.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> !alien
[06:45] <ubotu> it has been said that alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[06:45] <delire> i've never had an issue
[06:45] <BirdyKiller> does anyone know where I put my ubuntu CD? :)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> BirdyKiller, in the cd rom drive?
[06:46] <BirdyKiller> nope :(
[06:46] <gnomefreak> than nope si=orry :(
[06:46] <gnomefreak> sorry even
[06:47] <BirdyKiller> hmph... I refuse to burn a new copy just because I can't find mine
[06:47] <BirdyKiller> got it!  under the water bottle
[06:47] <castidad> hello!
[06:48] <gnomefreak> BirdyKiller, im thinking and correct me if im wrong but thats not a good place for it :(
[06:48] <castidad> I'm trying to sove a problem with the "macromedia" Flash fonts!
[06:48] <castidad> The test in Flash movies is not diaplaying at all?
[06:48] <castidad> anybody has any idea?
[06:48] <BirdyKiller> gnomefreak, agreed.  I promptly moved it back to the cd-rom drive where it belongs.
[06:49] <gnomefreak> lol BirdyKiller
[06:49] <mwe> castidad: you say you have problems with fonts, or flash doesn't work at all?
[06:49] <gnomefreak> !flash
[06:49] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:49] <kremonte> !freeformats
[06:49] <ubotu> hmm... freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[06:49] <Stork> DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=amd64-linux fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin
[06:49] <Stork> what's wrong with that?
[06:49] <AstralJava> Hello everyone. Is there anyone who has managed to get IrDA work?
[06:50] <nics__> BirdyKiller: have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85888
[06:50] <castidad> No! Flash works! (with images and animations), but when in every part of a movie which is supposed to diplay test (tested in other dsitributions and in WinXP) it does'nt. Thanks for answering
[06:50] <trappist> StarKruzr: the sun jre isn't open source and can't be compiled, so that won't make a i586 binary a 64-bit executable
[06:50] <StarKruzr> I think IRDA worked for me in The Distant Past(TM)
[06:51] <trappist> oops
[06:51] <cees> hoi
[06:51] <trappist> Stork: the sun jre isn't open source and can't be compiled, so that won't make a i586 binary a 64-bit executable
[06:51] <pinucset> one think, i've linux in ext3 and a partition with nothing (without format), how can i do linux ext3 partition higher?
[06:51] <cees> hello  all
[06:51] <Stork> i see, i just took that off the RestrictedFormats article
[06:52] <castidad> hey anybody? mew?
[06:52] <castidad> hey anybody? mewe
[06:52] <mwe> castidad: flash player needs certain fonts. I don't remember which ones though. sorry
[06:52] <castidad> hey anybody? mwe?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[06:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:52] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: You wouldn't happen to know what is wrong with Ubuntu Breezy?
[06:52] <mwe> castidad: I think the installer says which ones it needs
[06:53] <BirdyKiller> nics__, don't think I saw that one.. will give it a shot.... do you know how to force removal of a package that you already removed but can still be found with dpkg?
[06:53] <StarKruzr> well, what module handles the IRDA device, AstralJava?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> with -f maybe?
[06:53] <StarKruzr> you might wanna look in dmesg and see what it has to say about IRDA.
[06:53] <nics__> BirdyKiller: nope, --force-remove?
[06:53] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: I'm trying to modprobe smsc-ircc2, but it claims there is no such device
[06:54] <BirdyKiller> 'says it's not installed so not removed...
[06:54] <StarKruzr> AstralJava: has it ever worked?
[06:54] <StarKruzr> and does it work in Windows?
[06:54] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: Yes, it works in WinXP
[06:54] <StarKruzr> okay
[06:54] <BirdyKiller> maybe I should just reinstall, recompile kernel after removing all the nvidia crap and make another attempt
[06:54] <castidad> mwe: the installer of Flash (download form macromedia) does not say it
[06:54] <StarKruzr> so then smsc-ircc2 is more than likely the wrong module, no?
[06:54] <mwe> BirdyKiller: install it again. then remove it
[06:54] <nics__> BirdyKiller: dpkg -purge?
[06:54] <mwe> castidad: well it did for me
[06:55] <castidad> the one downloaded form Mmedia?
[06:55] <BirdyKiller> mwe, that's some damned good microsoft logic.  it just might work.
[06:55] <mwe> BirdyKiller: it does
[06:55] <mwe> BirdyKiller: or rather did for me once
[06:55] <BirdyKiller> well it can't make matters WORSE, that's for sure
[06:56] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: I wouldn't be surprised, but then I can't find information about what other module to use. How could I find out whether the system recognizes the hardware at all?
[06:56] <BirdyKiller> sigh
[06:56] <StarKruzr> well, you're not spelling it wrong.  when I did modprobe yourmom just now it said FATAL: module yourmom not found
[06:56] <gnomefreak> someone told me theres a new virus for linux lmao he said its in .exe format :(
[06:56] <StarKruzr> well, here's the thing
[06:56] <BirdyKiller> well well well :(
[06:56] <preglow> would changing sources.list to ubuntu repos on a standard debian work as a means of installing ubuntu?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> preglow, it could give you issues
[06:57] <preglow> gnomefreak: yeah, i'm aware of that, i'm just wondering if it _could_ work :)
[06:57] <StarKruzr> if the hardware is there, barring the possbility of you having some wildly bizarre architecture Linux doesn't understand, when you modprobe it it should at least fail in a more useful way than "no such device."
[06:57] <StarKruzr> huh.
[06:57] <BirdyKiller> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting '/usr/lib32/libGL.so.1' with different file '/usr/lib32/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa', not allowed
[06:57] <StarKruzr> I wonder if there is an entry in /dev for it.
[06:57] <BirdyKiller> dpkg: error processing nvidia-glx (--remove):
[06:58] <Manifold> Guys.
[06:58] <Manifold> Where's the menu file for Ubuntu stored?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> preglow, like i said could give you problems so i would say no to be on safe side
[06:58] <mwe> preglow: debian packages can break your system. however putting any apt mirror in sources.list will make apt use it
[06:58] <Manifold> I know how to edit the menu file, but I can't find the file itself.
[06:58] <preglow> i need decent distro desperately, and have no blank cdrs around
[06:58] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: There is /dev/ircomm*
[06:58] <preglow> hrmph
[06:59] <bash0> wow got kicked
[06:59] <Manifold> preglow, buy a CDR.
[06:59] <BirdyKiller> like the /boot/grub/menu.list ?
[06:59] <mwe> preglow: I would strongly recommend against putting debian mirrors in there though
[06:59] <bash0> guys software suspend works in ubuntu... hadn't though... you just logout of gnome and say hibernate
[06:59] <nicodein_> hi, does anyone running ubuntu-amd64 have problems with ugly fonts (in xmms menus and in vlc for example) ?
[06:59] <StarKruzr> ok, so the system DOES see the hardware.
[06:59] <bash0> thats cool... thought maybe i had to put swsusp2 into ubuntu somehow but 1 is enough.. so cool
[07:00] <StarKruzr> I dunno, dude.  it sounds like maybe you have a different IR controller than you think you do.
[07:00] <mwe> nicodein_: the fonts in those apps are ugly in any linux version
[07:00] <Manifold> I'm looking for the GNOME Menu, BirdyKiller
[07:00] <nicodein_> mwe : I meant uglier ;)
[07:00] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: Right, so which command might give me more info on detecting the hardware?
[07:00] <mwe> nicodein_: you can limit the pain with "switch" though, to choose a different gtk1 theme
[07:00] <mwe> nicodein_: and font. it wont let you use ttf fonts though
[07:01] <BirdyKiller> Manifold, sorry, I'm just a newbie :)  I dunno
[07:01] <Manifold> :/
[07:01] <Manifold> Oh well.
[07:01] <BirdyKiller> I'm sure one of these guys does...
[07:01] <gnomefreak> locate gnome menu might give you a path
[07:01] <marc__> Can someone point me toward a link that discusses the major diff between Ubuntu and mandriva.  I am a mandriva user and am looking to switch distros.
[07:01] <trappist> nicodein_: one of the first things I do with a new install of any distro is follow the font deuglification howto
[07:01] <gnomefreak> i have all kinds of crap going on over here or i would try
[07:02] <StarKruzr> AstralJava: hell if I know.  that you're going to have to look through the repos for - I don't know of anything that's installed by default that lets you poke around in your hardware like that.
[07:02] <bash0> okay enough gushing
[07:02] <mwe> nicodein_: however I keep hearing about multimedia problems like stuff not working or only working half in ubuntu 64bit. I hear the recommendation is to use the 32 bit version for now
[07:02] <bash0> see yas!!!
[07:02] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: Okay, thanks for your help! Muchly appreciated!
[07:02] <StarKruzr> wish I could help more :/
[07:02] <trappist> marc__: I used to be a mandriva user.  they're similar in that they try to make everything 'just work' and they're both primarily desktop distros.  I think ubuntu does a better job, and it's community-driven rather than corporate.
[07:03] <StarKruzr> aw
[07:03] <StarKruzr> Mandriva's not so bad!
[07:03] <gnomefreak> marc, the first thing you will notice is the package manager is not the same and either are the packages you can use :)
[07:03] <nicodein_> mwe : so my problems come from the fact it's the amd64 version ?
[07:03] <AstralJava> StarKruzr: Well you confirmed my guesses on that I've done right thus far.
[07:03] <venti[b0p] > hi
[07:03] <StarKruzr> I think you have, yeah.
[07:03] <mwe> nicodein_: I don't know about your font problem
[07:03] <gnomefreak> i lied first thing you will notice is ubuntu doesnt cost a dime :))
[07:04] <StarKruzr> does anyone know if there is a way to start the Ubuntu installer from the command line of an existing Linux system?
[07:04] <mwe> nicodein_: you can't get flash or the java plugin to work in 64 bit ubuntu either
[07:04] <BirdyKiller> any idea what to do when install/remove won't work, dpkg --purge won't work...
[07:04] <marc__> How long does it take for the cd to come in the mail, I ordered them today?
[07:04] <nicodein_> mwe : yes I figured out that
[07:04] <nicodein_> but it seems I'm lacking some fonts
[07:04] <trappist> BirdyKiller: dpkg -L the package and remove its files
[07:04] <gnomefreak> 6-8 weeks give or take
[07:04] <mwe> nicodein_: I can't find all the codecs you need for 64bit either
[07:04] <venti[b0p] > I've got a weird problem with Ubuntu-Linux and wake-on-lan. Every time I shutdown my system with ubuntu, i cannot wake it up again with wake-on-lan.
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> http://thunar.xfce.org/screenshots.xhtml  XFCE gets Nautilus :P
[07:05] <mwe> nicodein_: maybe. I think you can use "switch" like I mentioned to choose a different font
[07:05] <BirdyKiller> trappist, thank you!
[07:06] <venti> How do I make wake-on-lan work together with Ubuntu?
[07:06] <nicodein_> mwe : ok I'm gonna try it, and if not successful I'll switch to the 32bits version of ubuntu
[07:06] <nicodein_> mwe : by the way, is that normal there's so few package updates on ubuntu64 ?
[07:06] <deltron> not enough compiled for it? :P
[07:06] <Manifold> Argh. Where is the GNOME menu file stored? :/
[07:06] <mwe> nicodein_: I think you be better off with the 32bit version for now. btw switch is in the pacage "gtk-theme-switch"
[07:06] <trappist> venti: I don't use wol but I have to assume powered-off means powered-off whether ubuntu did it or something else
[07:07] <StarKruzr> is it possible to apt-get upgrade from Dapper to Breezy?
[07:07] <trappist> StarKruzr: that would be a downgrade
[07:07] <StarKruzr> or will that completely destroy everything and leave my system a hulking wreck?
[07:07] <mwe> nicodein_: I think there are less, yes. however enable universe and multiverse
[07:07] <StarKruzr> yes, but there is no apt-get downgrade, is there?
[07:07] <trappist> nope
[07:07] <nicodein_> mwe : it's already done
[07:07] <marc__> trappist: in comparison to mandriva, what is the range of installable software, I mean is there an equiv PLF type repo?
[07:07] <StarKruzr> so, should it work?
[07:07] <gnomefreak> stark-johan, it would be safer to fresh install breezy this way no broken packages stay around
[07:07] <nicodein_> I think I'll switch back to the 32bits
[07:08] <nicodein_> thanks for your help :)
[07:08] <mwe> nicodein_: the 64bit version doesn't seem ready for desktops
[07:08] <venti> trappist: It does work if press the ATX-power button while being within GRUB and when the PC is turned off by Windows XP.
[07:08] <trappist> marc__: yes, I don't know of a single thing you mandriva has packaged that ubuntu doesn't, and the 'restricted' repositories are even easier to setup and use in ubuntu.
[07:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell marc__ about sources
[07:08] <BirdyKiller> mwe, I couldn't agree more
[07:08] <StarKruzr> gnomefreak: I can't.  I have no removable media on this system and apparently there is no way to install Linux from Linux without setting up a PXE boot system.
[07:08] <mwe> BirdyKiller: it's probably fine for a server only machine
[07:09] <venti> btw, i have Ubuntu 5.10 (installed yesterday and update using apt).
[07:09] <gnomefreak> stark-johan, isnt there a net install?
[07:09] <StarKruzr> what I want to do is start the installer from the Linux command line.
[07:09] <gnomefreak> mount iso image and go :)
[07:10] <StarKruzr> ... mount... iso image...?
[07:10] <trappist> venti: maybe gnome's shutdown menu item calls halt -i (I don't use gnome, but that could cause an issue, I'd think)
[07:10] <StarKruzr> you can do that?
[07:10] <BirdyKiller> mwe, yeah, but pointless unless the server needs >4GB RAM...
[07:10] <gnomefreak> !install
[07:10] <ubotu> methinks install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[07:10] <StarKruzr> I'm already there.
[07:10] <StarKruzr> it doesn't say anything about that.
[07:10] <gnomefreak> read the net install on that site
[07:10] <olicat> any ideas how i can ssh onto a network on a different subnet?
[07:10] <StarKruzr> net install on that site is all about PXE booting and stuff.
[07:10] <trappist> StarKruzr: yes, you can install from an iso on the hard drive
[07:11] <nics__> olicat: you need to be able to route to it
[07:11] <nics__> can you ping the remote ip?
[07:11] <venti> trappist: halt -i ? what does this mean, that when i log on to the console and enter just "halt" it is something different than using the gnome button???
[07:11] <olicat> nics__, how do you do that?
[07:11] <StarKruzr> trappist: that would be awesome.  can you tell me where to find info on that?
[07:11] <trappist> venti: again, I don't use gnome and I don't know what the button does, but the halt man page has a few details
[07:12] <nics__> olicat: try traceroute <ip number> , is this on a work network?
[07:12] <venti> trappist: thx
[07:12] <mwe> BirdyKiller: maybe. There ought to be a warning a the download site about it I think
[07:12] <mihai_> I have a curiosity. If I install kubuntu from synaptic how will I switch between kde and gnome?
[07:12] <trappist> StarKruzr: I dunno, I just did an install last night and shortly after choosing 'expert' it gave me the option to find an iso on the hard drive to use as the install medium
[07:12] <olicat> nics__, on a work network yeah
[07:12] <StarKruzr> but dude
[07:12] <StarKruzr> you have to *start the installer* first.
[07:12] <trappist> mihai_: chose at the gdm/kdm login screen
[07:12] <StarKruzr> where would I get the installer by itself?
[07:12] <trappist> StarKruzr: oh yeah, good point :)
[07:12] <nics__> olicat: is the other server on the work network as well?
[07:13] <olicat> nics__, yeah i believe so
[07:13] <nics__> gedit RHEL.xml
[07:13] <mihai_> trappist, so by default I have the choice to choose at login?
[07:13] <nics__> bugga wrong window
[07:13] <StarKruzr> expert mode is all well and good if I actually have an installer to use
[07:13] <trappist> mihai_: yes
[07:13] <mihai_> trappist, thanks a lot
[07:13] <_null> Anyone knows how I can match a udev rule to execute a program when the device is removed?
[07:13] <nics__> olicat: well in theory your internal routers should already have the details set and I guess you have a default gateway set?
[07:16] <cisox> I am tring to create a ubuntu/debian repository and I am getting this error: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/_export_repository_dists_stable_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[07:16] <gnomefreak> !mountiso
[07:16] <ubotu> To mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[07:17] <mIRC`w2x> ubuntu ita?
[07:17] <trappist> !it
[07:17] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:18] <mwe> gnomefreak: do you know if it will work with a relative path like mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/mntpoint?
[07:18] <trappist> mwe: yes
[07:18] <gnomefreak> mwe, ive never done it so no i dont know but all i remember was you could do it
[07:19] <mwe> What's the easiest way to make apt leave my menu.lst alone?
[07:19] <mIRC`w2x> aceto
[07:19] <trappist> mwe: don't use it to install kernels
[07:20] <gnomefreak> trappist, how else would you upgrade kernel without apt other than compiling?
[07:20] <trappist> gnomefreak: I dunno another way.  it wasn't advice, just the correct answer to his question :)
[07:21] <gnomefreak> :) ok just making sure i wasnt going nuts
[07:21] <mwe> I think you can disable the update-grub thing
[07:21] <mwe> maybe I'll just dpkg-divert it
[07:22] <gnomefreak> mwe, i might be wrong on this but if the apt doesnt run update-grub than it wont allow you to boot to the new kernel
[07:23] <vert> how should apt prevent this?
[07:23] <mwe> gnomefreak: I'll take care of updated menu.lst myself. I run my custom kernel anyway, but I want to examine the ubuntu default one
[07:23] <BirdyKiller> THAT'S IT!!! IT STILL DOESN'T WORK!
[07:23] <gnomefreak> mwe, ahhhhh
[07:23] <BirdyKiller> reloading the damned OS
[07:23] <BirdyKiller> grumble grumble
[07:23] <gnomefreak> lol BirdyKiller
[07:23] <trappist> gnomefreak: with lilo that's true, but grub is a lot more flexible
[07:23] <gnomefreak> trappist, true
[07:23] <BirdyKiller> I should download the livecd and see if THAT works
[07:24] <tsw> where does sudo su <user> get its environment, I would like to have ls --color=auto alias even after sudoing to another user
[07:24] <_null> How would I make hotplug executing a script each time a device is added?
[07:24] <trappist> tsw: put it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[07:24] <gnomefreak> BirdyKiller, all this to get nvidia to work?
[07:24] <tsw> trappist: ls has colors If I dont use sudo
[07:24] <BirdyKiller> gnomefreak, yes.  I prefer to have a GUI in my 2+ ghz computers...
[07:25] <BirdyKiller> and I'm not replacing my brand new video card.
[07:25] <trappist> tsw: I'm not sure where that alias is, but if it's in /etc/bash.bashrc it should apply globally
[07:25] <tsw> trappist: ok, thanks
[07:25] <gnomefreak> BirdyKiller, cant you just run it as the wiki says instead of compiling kernel?
[07:25] <zoexii> hello, I have plans to upgrade my processor (and motherboard) from Intel P3 to AMD Athlon...  I've been using ubuntu for awhile and I have it more or less configured to my liking.  Will my install boot and work as is after I change chips?  will I have to reinstall?
[07:25] <BirdyKiller> gnomefreak, I tried that
[07:26] <trappist> zoexii: you might need to reconfigure a few pieces of hardware, but all the drivers will be there.  you should be fine.
[07:26] <gnomefreak> zoexii, it should work amd64 supports 32
[07:26] <trappist> gnomefreak: eh?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> sorry to hear that BirdyKiller
[07:26] <zoexii> gnomefreak, I think the chip is 32bit, Athlon XP something 2.4ghz?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> trappist, well it does :(
[07:26] <trappist> zoexii: that's 32 bit
[07:26] <trappist> gnomefreak: he's not installing amd64
[07:26] <gnomefreak> ah
[07:27] <gnomefreak> miss read it sorry
[07:27] <BirdyKiller> gnomefreak, it's alright.  this is going to work.  I know it.  :-/
[07:27] <rexbron> can someone help me with setting permissions on a windows partition?
[07:27] <zoexii> right on, thanks all.
[07:27] <gnomefreak> BirdyKiller, i said that about dapper on my main pc :(
[07:27] <mwe> zoexii: I'd install a 386 kernel first to make sure it boots with the new cpu
[07:28] <BirdyKiller> I don't know why ubuntu works BEAUTIFULLY on my DELL LAPTOP "DESIGNED FOR WINDOWS XP" but not on my new computer that I carefully selected the parts for...
[07:28] <teroedni> Birdykiller:Whats part is that
[07:28] <teroedni> Birdkiller:Via?
[07:28] <BirdyKiller> i just figured nvidia would have this whole driver thing down by now
[07:29] <Dex-Freudii> i received ubuntu 5.10 and i have on my pc ubuntu 5.04... how can I upgrade the system?
[07:29] <tkup> _null, you could start by reading 'man hotplug' or jump right into it by looking at /etc/hotplug/
[07:29] <teroedni> Birdykiller stats?
[07:29] <rexbron> could someone help me set permissions for my windows partition?
[07:29] <_null> tkup, i did this already but it seems that i need a usermap file first, right?
[07:29] <teroedni> Birdykiller:You dont happen to have a via motherboard do you?
[07:29] <Dex-Freudii> BirdyKiller, which dell do you have?
[07:30] <BirdyKiller> teroedni, no...
[07:30] <BirdyKiller> Dex-Freudii inspiron 8500
[07:30] <jdier> I am setting up my default video player for an application and I want to browse to TOTEM.  Where do I browse to find the application?
[07:30] <Dex-Freudii> does ubuntu recognizes the modem??
[07:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Dex-Freudii about ugrade
[07:30] <Dex-Freudii> thanx gnomefreak
[07:30] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:31] <teroedni> birdy killer:Whats not working then?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> modemdoesnt have much to do with the pc itself :(
[07:31] <rexbron> could someone help me set permissions for my windows partition?
[07:31] <BirdyKiller> teroedni, asus a8n32-sli motherboard w/ couple gigs of corsair, 4 hard drives in raid5 and a raptor for other bootable, geforce 7800GT
[07:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rexbron about someone
[07:31] <tkup> _null, what kind of driver/hardware do you have?
[07:31] <BirdyKiller> teroedni, video drivers...  I'm still working on it
[07:31] <_null> tkup, i'd like to have a script executed when i plug in my usbstick
[07:32] <teroedni> Birdykiller:O yikes
[07:32] <teroedni> birdykiller:I envy you^__^
[07:32] <jenda> I need help with segfaulting apps - many of them, and reinstalling the base system didn't help
[07:33] <BirdyKiller> teroedni, doesn't do me much good when I can't get past the command line :(
[07:33] <Chousuke> jenda: You may have broken memory
[07:33] <vert> BirdyKiller: how much did that little thing cost?
[07:33] <jenda> Chousuke: hmm... how would I know that?
[07:33] <venti> Ok, my wake on LAN works now.
[07:33] <BirdyKiller> vert, i dunno.. I pieced it together over a few months
[07:33] <BirdyKiller> vert, bit over a grand...
[07:33] <Chousuke> jenda: You need to run memtest
[07:34] <Chousuke> jenda: it is available from apt
[07:34] <Ribs> memtest is installed by default
[07:34] <deltron> memtest should be in your bootup sequence
[07:34] <Ribs> just press escape when prompted to by grub (3 second countdown), and select memtest
[07:34] <deltron> in grub
[07:34] <BirdyKiller> and a brand new, CLEAN install from ubuntu cd...............
[07:34] <mwe> Chousuke: isn't in the default grub menu?
[07:34] <seicherlbob> hi there! what the hack are "magic files"?
[07:34] <mwe> Chousuke: I mean isn't it in the menu
[07:35] <Chousuke> mwe: not if you haven't installed it.
[07:35] <Chousuke> mwe: I didn't know it was in the default install :)
[07:35] <Plazma> anyone have any luck getting UT2004 to work with the ATI drivers?
[07:35] <yggdrasil> has anone fixed this erro regarding network printint ?
[07:35] <yggdrasil>  lpadmin: add-printer (set model) failed: client-error-not-found
[07:35] <mwe> Chousuke: well I didn't install it manually and I got it in the grub menu :|
[07:35] <seicherlbob> Plazma: took me a while to even install ati-drivers. havent tried gaming yet
[07:35] <jenda> Chousuke: no installation candidate...
[07:36] <Plazma> seicherlbob, did you use the package from ati or is it in apt?
[07:36] <Chousuke> jenda: it seems it should be in the grub meni.
[07:36] <Chousuke> menu*
[07:36] <seicherlbob> can anybody tell me, what magic files are?
[07:36] <deltron> !xubuntu
[07:36] <ubotu> methinks xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[07:36] <jenda> Chousuke: ah, got it...
[07:36] <seicherlbob> i used the guide from the wiki.
[07:36] <tkup> _null, you can put a reference to your script in /etc/hotplug/usb.agent
[07:36] <Chousuke> jenda: you need to reboot to start it.
[07:36] <_null> tkup, ok
[07:36] <seicherlbob> worked fine (at least the ati-center is running and OpenGL)
[07:36] <jenda> OK
[07:36] <jenda> brb
[07:36] <Chousuke> jenda: run it for a few passes
[07:36] <Chousuke> jenda: it'll take a long time
[07:37] <jenda> OK
[07:37] <gnomefreak> is it safe to install ati drivers before adding the vc than add vc and plug in reboot all will work?
[07:37] <seicherlbob> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[07:37] <seicherlbob> Plazma: look at this link
[07:37] <Plazma> yea im looking at it.. thanks
[07:37] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[07:38] <seicherlbob> Plazma: noprob
[07:38] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: you know what magic files are?
[07:38] <Plazma> prob  why wine wasnt working right either with steam
[07:38] <gnomefreak> nope
[07:38] <gnomefreak> !magicfiles
[07:38] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:38] <Plazma> !beer
[07:38] <seicherlbob> lol
[07:38] <Plazma> thats what im talking about
[07:39] <seicherlbob> ok, gotta go. cu around!
[07:39] <EnsignRedshirt> A bit off-topic, but a quickie: Is there a free ogg vorbis player for windows?  (I've created some ogg files on my ubuntu box, but I'd like to let my uninformed windows-using friend know how to play them.)
[07:39] <blue-frog> zinf
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> winamp can play them with the right plug in i belive
[07:40] <delire> EnsignRedshirt AFAIK winamp will play them
[07:40] <Plazma> EnsignRedshirt, winamp, VLC, etc
[07:40] <mwe> EnsignRedshirt: I believe there is but I forgot the name
[07:40] <Terminus> hello. does anybody know what the URL for the list of mirrors for apt-get is? the page that ubotu mentions doesn't exist anymore and i'm having problems with my existing mirror. thanks.
[07:40] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Terminus about easysource
[07:41] <Terminus> robotgeek, thanks. :)
[07:41] <mwe> !mirrors
[07:41] <ubotu> I guess mirrors is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:41] <EnsignRedshirt> blue-frog, Dr_Willis, delire, Plazma, mwe: Thanks!
[07:41] <alainlucas> my display manager is kdm, how to replace it by gdm ?
[07:41] <deltron> sudo apt-get install gdm
[07:42] <mwe> alainlucas: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[07:42] <mwe> alainlucas: after installing gdm
[07:42] <alainlucas> mwe: thanks
[07:42] <Terminus> mwe, aha! thanks. that's the page i was looking for! :)
[07:42] <Terminus> i just forgot what the terminology for ubuntu is. hehe
[07:43] <alainlucas> mwe is a genious
[07:43] <robotgeek> 
[07:43] <mwe> lol
[07:43] <robotgeek> sorry, was cleaning my keyboard
[07:43] <zblach> hey, quick bit of advice I need. i've a whole bunch of MP3's i'd like to zip together (for continuous sound). is there a simple way of doing this? or better yet, a better solution?
[07:44] <slushpupie> zblach: `cat *.mp3 > big.mp3` will work for some players
[07:44] <delire> zblach install 'zip' and 'zip files.zip /path/to/mp3s/
[07:44] <blue-frog> zblach, audacity
[07:45] <delire> zblach oh, haha i get you
[07:45] <zblach> slushpupie, delire, blue-frog, sorry. its for use on an ipod
[07:45] <delire> cat is best yes..
[07:45] <blue-frog> zblach, SO?
[07:45] <blue-frog> zblach, so?
[07:46] <slushpupie> zblach: you could try it
[07:46] <zblach> can i just cat a whole bunch of mp3's together like that?
[07:46] <visik7> hi
[07:46] <madgik85> Hello I was just wondering, how do I find out what terminal I am using?
[07:46] <visik7> is ubuntu compiled for 686 or 486 ?
[07:46] <delire> zblach yes that will work. btw it isn't 'zipping' ;)
[07:46] <slushpupie> zblach: mp3 is a stream, the only weird part is the ID3 tags
[07:46] <delire> madgik85 echo %TERM
[07:46] <delire> madgik85 echo $TERM
[07:46] <delire> oops
[07:46] <slushpupie> zblach: if you have different bitrates and strange tags on your files, some players will do weird things, but technically it should be possible
[07:47] <jvl> hi, can someone give me  any pointers on how to configure an external dvd-writer?
[07:47] <Narrf> Hi all - Have a problem with Nautilus, it won't close and is using 100% processor - anyone any ideas?
[07:47] <madgik85> delire, thank you
[07:47] <delire> jvl: you shouldn't need to.. just plug it in and see if you can select it with your given burning software
[07:47] <delire> jvl: tail -f /var/log/syslog for errors on connect to see if it is properly picked up.
[07:48] <delire> jvl: you may need to use sudo to watch that file..
[07:48] <delire> Narrf hmm odd. start up a terminal and 'sudo pkill nautilus'
[07:49] <jvl> delire: thx will check that but going to my Places -> Computer it doesnt show
[07:49] <delire> jvl: it should be picked up as a scsi device..
[07:49] <visik7> is ubuntu binaries compiled for 486 ?
[07:49] <Narrf> delire: have tried an xkill and a sudo kill pid - nautius just respawns and restarts!
[07:50] <delire> jvl: lsmod | grep scsi
[07:50] <delire> ves: how did you go ves?
[07:50] <ves> delire: oh hi there, haha complete reinstall :)
[07:50] <ves> working good, though
[07:50] <delire> Narrf very odd. you should file a bug on that.
[07:50] <jvl> delire: thx will do
[07:50] <delire> ves didn't take you long did it?
[07:50] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[07:50] <Narrf> ok I will do - just done an pkill and it respawns still!
[07:50] <ves> delire: nah, not at all this 10meg connection helped a bit with the dist-upgrade :)
[07:51] <delire> jvl: that is to find if you have the modules (drivers) to support the device loaded.
[07:51] <delire> ves: hehe cool
[07:51] <ves> delire: I'm very tired from running about though :)
[07:51] <delire> Narrf save and close any important documents and CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to kill X
[07:51] <delire> ves: get online with that machine eh?
[07:51] <BirdyKiller> !kernel
[07:52] <Jaymac> Am I supposed to see grawert.net when I submit hardware data?
[07:52] <Narrf> have done a total shutdown and restart (had to shutdown with sudo shutdown -h "now" from another vterm)
[07:52] <Manifold> Guys, how do you pin a terminal to the desktop?
[07:52] <jvl> delire: running lsmod | grep scsi gives me this: scsi_mod              119936  3 sg,sr_mod,usb_storage
[07:52] <delire> ves: better still install openssh-server and ssh from the machine you're on now.
[07:52] <ves> delire: yeah, thing was it was hooked up to the network but due to my login issues I couldn't ssh or anything :)
[07:52] <delire> jvl: ok good. what does syslog say? 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[07:52] <ves> delire: cheers, I'm just sorting out all my packages now, 'gvim - command not found' argh :)
[07:52] <sorush21> how do I convert mp3's into wave files for writing on cd's
[07:52] <yggdrasil> is there a printer administration tool in ubunut ?
[07:53] <Bjelleklang> is there a quick command to see kernel version info?
[07:53] <delire> sorush21 use audacity, or see if your burning software supports conversion.
[07:53] <delire> Bjelleklang uname -a
[07:53] <Bjelleklang> thanks
[07:53] <delire> np
[07:53] <zblach> slushpupie, thanks. it seems to be working
[07:54] <delire> yggdrasil Administration-->Printing from memory
[07:54] <jvl> delire: any place where I can paste these lines?
[07:54] <ves> Would anybody happen to know the shared libraries for firefox/thunderbird? I'm not using the ubuntu version.. 1.5 from a directory
[07:54] <delire> jvl: http://pastebin.com
[07:54] <jvl> delire: although it seems everything is correct...
[07:54] <delire> ves: ldd /path/to/binary
[07:54] <zblach> now, ultimatebonus would be if the file could display different information at different times
[07:54] <robreed> Hi, in the live CD there is a problem with the X Graphical User Interface
[07:54] <Manifold> Guys, how do you pin a terminal to the desktop?
[07:55] <ves> delire: Hmm, I've never had to do that before is there something automatic that should do it?
[07:55] <jvl> delire: http://pastebin.com/493754
[07:55] <yggdrasil> delire cool im not using gnome ill jump into it now
[07:55] <delire> ves: what are you trying to do?
[07:55] <midnight> hy everyone
[07:56] <robreed> how do I reconfigure the X graphical user interface in the LiveCD?
[07:56] <ves> delire: I've got the latest version of firefox installed but trying to run it gives me library errors: "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[07:56] <delire> jvl: it all looks fine. why not put a CD in and see if Ubuntu picks it up?
[07:56] <ves> I'm not using 1.0.7 or whatever ubuntu has stuck with
[07:57] <jvl> delire: here goes :)
[07:57] <delire> ves: right.. this is an important library. you may need to create a symlink. it's also possible that firefox wants a different version of libstdc++. though i'd be surprised.
[07:57] <delire> jvl: ;)
[07:57] <jvl> delire: no way! it worked!!!
[07:57] <Manifold> Guys, how do you pin a terminal to the desktop?
[07:57] <delire> ves: ls -l /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.*
[07:57] <Jaymac> ves... http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[07:57] <jvl> delire: and i was mentalizing myself to editing files, installing stuff...
[07:57] <delire> jvl: hehe, ubuntu is good at this stuff. if it was windows you'd have to install a driver ;)
[07:58] <delire> jvl: ubuntu ships with a fine kernel.
[07:58] <ves> delire: ah I see, they're not all linked
[07:58] <ves> Jaymac: thanks
[07:58] <jvl> delire: so, since this seems to be working so well, now just putting a blank dvd and selecting some stuff to burn will just work (tm) right?
[07:58] <delire> ves: do you have a libstdc++.so.5?
[07:58] <jtd> hi guys
[07:58] <jtd> is there a kubuntu netboot image?
[07:58] <delire> jvl: it should yep
[07:59] <ves> delire: I just installed that package via apt, working great now :)
[07:59] <jvl> delire: omg....easy stuff on linux!!
[07:59] <ves> delire: only 6 was installed by default
[07:59] <delire> jvl: if you have an internal burner also, you will need to select the right burner.
[07:59] <delire> jvl: hehe things are changing in the linux desktop department ;)
[07:59] <jvl> delire: nah just the external one
[07:59] <jvl> delire: sure hope so
[07:59] <delire> jvl: easy peasy then
[07:59] <delire> ves: a much cleaner solution ;)
[08:00] <ves> delire: Thanks again, have a nice night! :)
[08:00] <delire> ves: u too ves
[08:00] <jvl> delire: there are certaing things imho that still need to change on linux so more windows users can be attracted to it
[08:00] <jvl> delire: time to make some barbecue ;)
[08:01] <delire> jvl: i agree..
[08:01] <delire> jvl: too cold here for barbecues. have fun ;)
[08:02] <jenda> BirdyKiller damn! Rebooted and guess what... CLI :)
[08:02] <BirdyKiller> at least it's not just me :)
[08:03] <BirdyKiller> i just tried again
[08:03] <BirdyKiller> for the 3rd time
[08:03] <BirdyKiller> last try before i recompile the kernel myself
[08:03] <delire> jenda: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:03] <BirdyKiller> and by that I mean "tomorrow"
[08:03] <BirdyKiller> fuck. yup.
[08:03] <BirdyKiller> sleepy time
[08:03] <_null> How can I check if the system has already completed booting in a script?
[08:03] <delire> jenda: even better, let's look for errors: 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE'
[08:04] <jenda> I copied the error message, can someone please tell me what this means: "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o": No symbols found
[08:04] <delire> jenda that shouldn't be the problem. that's common.
[08:04] <jtd> is it fairly simple to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?  do you just sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[08:04] <Morrowyn> can i upgrade myt fbsd 5.4 box to 6.0 through, cvsup, build world ?
[08:04] <delire> jenda i have that and am in X currently. look further down for problems.
[08:04] <marius_> hi i just installed ubuntu and did not get prompted to type in a root password what is the standard root password for ubuntu ?
[08:04] <Jaymac> jtd you dont need to remove ubuntu
[08:04] <Jaymac> just install kubuntu-desktop
[08:05] <jtd> Jaymac: and that's it?  okay, thanks.
[08:05] <Jaymac> then you can remove ubuntu afterwards if you want
[08:05] <Morrowyn> oops wrong window :P
[08:05] <Jaymac> jtd.. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is all you need.. also /j #kubuntu is a good idea too :)
[08:05] <zoexii> marius_, it is the password for your main user
[08:05] <jtd> someone told me the two couldn't coexist.
[08:05] <marius_> oh :D
[08:05] <Jaymac> jtd.. BS :)
[08:05] <brainiac_ghost> kde vs gnome (aka kubuntu vs ubuntu)
[08:05] <zoexii> marius_, but I don't think you can log in as root,
[08:05] <jenda> delire: no EEs :(
[08:05] <marius_> no
[08:05] <vbgunz> can someone tell me what is wrong with the search tool? It really doesn't search and find anything... To be honest it is a waste of pixels on screen... What is it good for?
[08:05] <marius_> i cant :(
[08:05] <Jaymac> I installed kubuntu-desktop and am running it with kde 3.5, over a base installation of ubuntu
[08:06] <Jaymac> zoexii you can
[08:06] <delire> jenda: hmm.. perhaps GDM isn't starting?
[08:06] <FliesLikeABrick> Jaymac,  thats exactly what i'm on right now
[08:06] <Jaymac> with some tweaking
[08:06] <jenda> I'll try
[08:06] <zoexii> Jaymac, really?
[08:06] <delire> jenda: startx
[08:06] <Jaymac> but you have no need to
[08:06] <Jaymac> ever
[08:06] <Jaymac> :)
[08:06] <nics__> marius: by default you are supposed to use sudo, root isn't enabled at install
[08:07] <delire> jenda have you ever had X running on that machine and are you sure there are no errors in the log?
[08:07] <sorush21> what program can I use for multiple conversion of mp3 into wav files?
[08:08] <delire> sorush21 try 'sox', or find some frontend.
[08:09] <brainiac_ghost> right
[08:09] <Bjelleklang> isn't 'make' supposed to work without any problems after ubuntu has installed?
[08:09] <FliesLikeABrick> only if you have gcc installed
[08:09] <Bjelleklang> ah
[08:10] <Pygi> people, can I ask you for a favor? :)
[08:10] <Pygi> please go to fama.sf.net and comment on first post, thank you :)
[08:11] <Bjelleklang> gcc is installed, but still won't work
[08:11] <Jaymac> you got build-essential?
[08:12] <sorush21> anyother programs?
[08:12] <delire> sorush21 come to think of it, with sox you could use a script like 'for i in $(ls /path/to/mp3s/); do sox $i $i.wav; done' make sure you're filenames don't have spaces though ;)
[08:12] <trappist> Bjelleklang: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:13] <UncleD> Anyone here ever mirrored a smaller harddrive to a larger one? I have breezy on a 40gb machine and I want to copy the system to a 300gb hd that currently has breezy on it also.
[08:13] <charwood> I'm having problems enabling DMA on my laptop.  When I use the stock kernel 2.6.12, it is on, but on my custom compiled one or on a newer 2.6.14/15 it does not work.
[08:13] <jenda> delire ummm... that kinda crashed me :)
[08:13] <delire> jenda what did?
[08:13] <jenda> startx
[08:13] <jenda> had to reboot
[08:13] <trappist> charwood: you probably failed to include the drivers for your ide controller
[08:13] <jenda> and am now in recovery mode
[08:13] <charwood> When I type hdparm -d1 /dev/hda - I get operation failed.
[08:14] <Bjelleklang> thanks trappist!
[08:14] <Chousuke> jenda: You have broken hardware.
[08:14] <Chousuke> jenda: did you get memtest running?
[08:14] <delire> jenda you need to read the log to find out why it's crashing. it's not normal. have you ever had X running on that machine. startx again and then read the log.
[08:14] <jenda> Could this be caused by installing the 686 kernel?
[08:14] <delire> charwood hmm, maybe your disk doesn't support DMA?
[08:14] <charwood> My customer compiled kernel has DMA enabled for every signal possible chipset (just in case...  I've been working on this for a while)
[08:14] <Chousuke> jenda: Doubtful..
[08:14] <jenda> Chousuke: hmm... don't think so. I think my segfault problems are, in fact caused by GL
[08:15] <delire> charwood what does 'sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda' give you?
[08:15] <charwood> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[08:15] <charwood>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[08:15] <charwood>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[08:15] <trappist> charwood: what chipset do you have (lspci)?
[08:15] <Chousuke> jenda: are only X programs segfaulting?
[08:15] <jenda> And this only started after I installed the new nvidia.
[08:15] <Chousuke> jenda: hmm.
[08:15] <delire> charwood i would say you need to load support for your hard disk controller.
[08:15] <cisox> Hello, I am setting up a debian repository/creating source packages. I have everything setup and when I go to try to use the repository using apt-get source <package> I get an error about failing to link my repository's package to the package I am trying to get. How I go about fixing this?
[08:15] <charwood> delire: When the computer boots it says that dma is not set, assuming idebus=33 or whatever.
[08:16] <jenda> Chousuke well now I can't start X - problem no. 1 :), but yes, and only some (xmms, mplayer, neverball...)
[08:16] <delire> charwood follow trappist's lead. 'lspci > hardware.txt' and post it to pastebin.com
[08:16] <brainiac_ghost> 64 or 32 bit
[08:16] <delire> jenda what did you do to enable you to startx?
[08:17] <trappist> charwood: since this is obviously a kernel issue, and it works in ubuntu's kernel, you might try asking in a kernel forum.  #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net is pretty good.
[08:17] <jenda> delire nothing...
[08:17] <delire> jenda how old is your computer? that sounds very dubious to me. faulty hardware perhaps?
[08:17] <jenda> I typed it in, and boom, lots of output, black screen. Panic. Suicide...
[08:18] <saib0t> I did a remake of an awsome loginscreen.... have a look: http://gnomelook.org/content/pre1/33283-1.jpg
[08:18] <donohue> help wanted:if I have a long list of email addresses in a ooo spreadsheet, how can i paste them into a evolution email To: line?
[08:18] <lee_> hey Ng or anyone....just went and installed ubuntu...as before i was running debian....and now my dvd's all play all jumpy .....anyone know how to fix this?
[08:18] <jenda> delire... dunno. It's 3.5 years. It worked faultlessly a week ago.
[08:18] <bufferfly> evening all
[08:18] <delire> jenda suiciding computers are still a few years away yet ;)
[08:18] <charwood> trappist: Thanks.  I did post the output of lspci to pastebin.com (charwood)
[08:18] <delire> jenda when did this start happening?
[08:18] <Chousuke> jenda: and reverting the drivers doesn't help?
[08:19] <Pak> Hier ben ik
[08:19] <Chousuke> jenda: or using the free 2d-only drivers?
[08:19] <trappist> charwood: standard procedure is to paste the link to your pastebin post here
[08:19] <delire> hehe
[08:19] <lee_> hey Ng or anyone....just went and installed ubuntu...as before i was running debian....and now my dvd's all play all jumpy .....anyone know how to fix this?
[08:19] <jenda> delire: I reinstalled since then, leaving only my /home.
[08:19] <jenda> I'll try...
[08:19] <delire> jenda what graphics card?
[08:19] <trappist> lee_: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/<device>
[08:19] <jenda> Geforce 2
[08:19] <jenda> mmx
[08:19] <lee_> cheers mate ll give it ago
[08:19] <delire> jendaL nvidia's drivers?
[08:19] <jenda> yes
[08:20] <jenda> Installed through the installer, because it never works otherwise.
[08:20] <charwood> MY pastebin linke: http://pastebin.com/493792
[08:20] <blueandwhiteg3> Hey, a quick/stupid gnome question: I have been using gnome, now it seems to be minimizing windows out of sight! That means I cannot see my minimized windows, and when I press minimize, it seems to minimize to the right of the screen, like it's going offscreen...
[08:20] <lee_> trappist, -dl didnt work just gave usuage info again
[08:20] <blueandwhiteg3> How can I fix that?
[08:20] <lee_> oh is it d1 ?
[08:20] <delire> jenda: you could try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read 'vesa' in the place of 'nvidia' or 'nv' and see if you get more stability. you will have no 3D accelleration however.
[08:21] <jenda> I'll try reinstalling with the 386 kernel only...
[08:21] <nics__> jenda: if you want me to try your xorg.conf with my working nvidia setup then mail it to me
[08:21] <trappist> lee_: -d1 not -dl
[08:21] <delire> lee_ he didn't mean typing "<device>" ;) for instance 'hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda' for my configuration.
[08:21] <jenda> delire: thanks, I'll pass :), I know about that, of course...
[08:21] <lee_> trappist, i just did  that and the graphics have no gone totally screwed
[08:21] <delire> jenda: good luck then..
[08:21] <trappist> charwood: never seen an ati ide controller.  I dunno what driver makes that work, but maybe they do in #kernelnewbies
[08:21] <jenda> nics__ thanks, but I'll try reinstalling and getting into X first :)
[08:21] <lee_> yeah i used /dev/dvd
[08:21] <lee_> @ delire
[08:22] <jenda> later
[08:22] <delire> ciao
[08:22] <nics__> jenda: no probs, means I can go eat my tea :-)
[08:22] <trappist> lee_: try restarting your player
[08:22] <charwood> trappist: So far they're pretty silent there.  (-8
[08:22] <charwood> I'll see what google knows.
[08:22] <lee_> trappist, it wasnt running anyway let me try on my other lappy
[08:23] <blueandwhiteg3> Anybody help on this issue with gnome now showing minimized windows? It's driving me kinda crazy... like not being able to see my minimized applications! I'm a gnome newbie...
[08:23] <lee_> ah its working now trappist  on one laptop! nice one bro ill try it on mine now
[08:23] <slibs> hello
[08:24] <slibs> how should i remove wlan driver that ubuntu has in default for my card?
[08:24] <slibs> it doesn't work and i want manually replace it
[08:24] <blueandwhiteg3> slibs: try an "sudo apt-get remove <driverpackage>"
[08:25] <blueandwhiteg3> if you're not sure the package name, use "apt-cache search <keywords>"
[08:25] <slibs> blueandwhiteg3: righty, i'll try that first
[08:25] <BirdyKiller> holy fucking crikey shit
[08:25] <BirdyKiller> it actually works now
[08:25] <BirdyKiller> AFTER a reboot
[08:25] <Terminus> grrr... keychain broke during the last update. :(
[08:25] <trappist> charwood: sudo modprobe atiixp  <-- try that
[08:26] <vbgunz> how in the world do I recursively delete a certain extension across one parent directory? rm -fr ./000_/*.msf only deletes .msf files in the very first directory... it doesn't keep going :(
[08:26] <lee_> cheers trae
[08:26] <lee_> cheers trappist
[08:26] <slibs> blueandwhiteg3: i checked out with synaptic and i only found acx100-firmware, do you think it could be only that firmware package or something else?
[08:26] <trappist> vbgunz: find /path -name '*.msf' -exec rf -f {} \;
[08:26] <FliesLikeABrick> vbgunz, rm -rf *.msf ?
[08:27] <trappist> vbgunz: s/rf/rm/
[08:27] <blueandwhiteg3> slibs: I don't really know. You could try removing it... it can't hurt. (Unless when you click remove apt-get wants to remove tons of other apps.)
[08:27] <delire> trappist i was wondering what you were upto ;)
[08:27] <yanis> why there is no mplayer in apt-get???
[08:27] <trappist> yanis: it's mplayer-{platform}
[08:27] <slibs> actually there is
[08:28] <blueandwhiteg3> yanis: it depends on which trees you're in... you need to open them up a bit more.
[08:28] <vbgunz> thanks fellas
[08:28] <trappist> yanis: like, mplayer-586
[08:28] <delire> yanis: it has patented code. you'll need to enable multiverse
[08:28] <yanis> blueandwhiteg3: I have uncomment all the sources
[08:28] <BirdyKiller> hehe doh
[08:28] <slibs> but i think it works better if you compile it yourself
[08:28] <blueandwhiteg3> yais: you seen, mplayer isn't really free or whatever crap like that
[08:28] <delire> IIRC
[08:28] <BirdyKiller> apparently one of m y keyboard keys is mapped to some instant-kill thing
[08:28] <blueandwhiteg3> yanis: It's more than just uncommenting. You have to *add* the multiverse tree.
[08:28] <trappist> BirdyKiller: what does it instantly kill?
[08:28] <slibs> BirdyKiller: like shutdown button?
[08:28] <delire> BirdyKiller funny. you're not typing CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE by any chance ;) ?
[08:29] <blueandwhiteg3> but, what do I know, I can't even get gnome to show me my minimized windows...
[08:29] <yanis> blueandwhiteg3: ah ok,what have to add?
[08:29] <BirdyKiller> lol no it was just the fastest shutdown I've ever seen
[08:29] <trappist> BirdyKiller: laptop?
[08:29] <zblach> speaking of ctrl+alt+bksp, how can I enable other buttons on my keyboard?
[08:29] <CodenameKT> !goodmorning
[08:29] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[08:29] <BirdyKiller> desktop, but i got one of those microsoft wireless executive office professional super keyboards hooked up to it right now
[08:30] <charwood> trappist: Sorry, still getting the same error. I think that the atiixp is for sound on the board.
[08:30] <trappist> BirdyKiller: ah, I use the supercoder2000 myself.  watercooled, just two keys, 1 and 0
[08:31] <BirdyKiller> now that's hardcore
[08:31] <zblach> trappist, thats pretty leet
[08:31] <zblach> reminds me of this one guy I once knew
[08:31] <zblach> watched him hack his neighbours computer
[08:31] <charwood> trappist: If I reboot into my 2.6.12, it works.  What config file/startup stuff would load the module under one kernel but not another?
[08:31] <SuperLag> Any of you guys successfully set up LDAP authentication on your *ubuntu installs?
[08:31] <zblach> only things he used were a teaspoon, a glass of salt water and an old transistor radio
[08:31] <blueandwhiteg3> yanis: the multiverse tree, of course.
[08:32] <slibs> zblach: what the hell :D
[08:32] <trappist> charwood: it should autoload if you have the hardware.  I wanted to see if you were missing the module... modprobe would have errored out.
[08:32] <zblach> slibs, was the most incredible hack i've ever seen
[08:32] <slibs> what did he do?
[08:32] <charwood> trappist: Nope.  Modprobe worked fine.
[08:32] <delire> trappist i interface with my computer by squeezing a lettuce. pretty l33t, or so i'm told.
[08:32] <gnomefreak> there is something really really wrong here i installed ati as it said reconfigured xserver-xorg to fglrx and now i have no X
[08:33] <charwood> trappist: But pretty much it has to be some kernel setting if it behaves differently in different startups?
[08:33] <BirdyKiller> did he gargle the water while listening to the radio and using the teaspoon to connect positive and negative terminals ?
[08:33] <gnomefreak> its a radeon card so i know it should work
[08:33] <bungle_> hi
[08:33] <CodenameKT> gnomefreak: what kind of ati u got?
[08:33] <trappist> charwood: pretty much
[08:33] <gnomefreak> radeon ato 7000
[08:33] <gnomefreak> ati
[08:34] <Terminus> does anybody know why keychain says 'Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.' after i updated? the passphrase window doesn't pop up anymore...
[08:34] <CodenameKT> gnomefreak: can u show me an example of the xorg.conf u used?
[08:34] <charwood> trappist: Well, I appreciate your help.  If you can think of any kernel options that it might be... or maybe I have to compile kernel_modules somehow special?  Google has been silent.
[08:34] <zblach> no, he used the teaspoon against the glass to send a signal through his radio and into the neighbours
[08:34] <trappist> Terminus: running ssh-agent?
[08:34] <Dreamglider> does anyone here use synergy ?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> CodenameKT how do i open another term?
[08:34] <Terminus> trappist, yep. i grepped ps and it's running.
[08:35] <trappist> Terminus: how are you running keychain?
[08:35] <Terminus> trappist, it's in my bashrc.
[08:35] <trappist> but how?
[08:36] <Motoko-chan> Anyone want to help figure out a weird hardware issue?
[08:36] <delire> Terminus perhaps best to 'ssh-agent bash; ssh-agent' and then enter passphrase per session no?
[08:36] <Linfanguin> when i stream a movie its choppy and if the movie have diffrente scenes no matter what scene choose it always start from the beggining when i use mplayer with firefox? how can i fix this problem
[08:36] <agnomefrek> lol alt+F2 doesnt work :(
[08:37] <Motoko-chan> Ubuntu isn't picking up my network card, but it shows it is installed in Device Manager and lspci.
[08:37] <delire> Terminus sorry 'ssh-agent bash; ssh-add'
[08:37] <Terminus> trappist, i pass the add the key to keychain and then source $HOME/.keychain/$HOSTNAME-sh
[08:37] <Motoko-chan> 3Com 3c556B Cardbus
[08:37] <CodenameKT> gnomefk: honestly i don't know
[08:37] <Terminus> delire, well, since keychain failed to popup the passphrase dialog went i open a terminal, that's how it works now...
[08:37] <Terminus> errr... s/went/when/
[08:37] <delire> right.
[08:37] <trappist> Terminus: does ~/.keychain/${HOSTNAME}.sh exist?
[08:38] <Terminus> trappist, yes, it does.
[08:38] <Linfanguin> anyway to remove mplayer completely and have totum be my main media player for streams? or wich one do you guys recommend
[08:38] <agnomefrek> hmmmmmmmmm this isnt good :(
[08:38] <Dreamglider> how do i mount a iso dvd image ?
[08:38] <Terminus> trappist, PID for ssh-agent in that file is correct.
[08:38] <trappist> Terminus: owned by you and perms 600?
[08:38] <Andrew[CS] > anyone know why I cant change my screen resolution or how to open a .deb
[08:38] <agnomefrek> brb gonna try something
[08:38] <Motoko-chan> Any idea on my issue?
[08:39] <agnomefrek> exit
[08:39] <trappist> !tell Andrew[CS]  about fixres
[08:39] <trappist> Andrew[CS] : and, sudo dpkg -i filename.de
[08:39] <trappist> b
[08:39] <Terminus> trappist, yes to both.
[08:39] <nickrud> Linfanguin, you could try the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension to firefox, it allows you to select different player for different streams
[08:39] <Terminus> trappist, would `keychain --clear` help?
[08:40] <trappist> Terminus: might
[08:40] <Andrew[CS] > ummm what
[08:40] <Terminus> ok... i'll give it a try.
[08:40] <sorush21> guys I can't run a program that I installed using wine..
[08:40] <B_166-ER-X> !sources
[08:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:40] <Terminus> trappist, it's not gonna touch the keys in .ssh right?
[08:40] <B_166-ER-X> !easysource
[08:40] <trappist> nope
[08:40] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:40] <Terminus> thanks.
[08:41] <zblach> how can I enable my keyboard buttons.
[08:41] <relbs> when I open my laptop after putting the screen down, ubuntu prompts for a password.  Is there a way to disable this?
[08:41] <sorush21> can I install direct x using wine?
[08:41] <yanis> what mplayer package to select???386 or 586????whats the difference?
[08:41] <Terminus> trappist, still the same. it can find the existing ssh-agent process but it can't add the keys.
[08:41] <echeese> I mounted my FAT32 fs
[08:42] <echeese> But I can't write to it
[08:42] <relbs> yanis: 586 if you have a pentium or better computer
[08:42] <echeese> from my user
[08:42] <yanis> relbs: I have pentium M 1.5
[08:42] <yanis> so 586
[08:42] <relbs> yanis: yes
[08:42] <trappist> Terminus: I'm stumped, I use keychain everywhere and I've never had a problem
[08:42] <Andrew[CS] > trappist how to open/run .deb?
[08:42] <relbs> yanis: 386 will also work, but may be a little slower.
[08:42] <CodenameKT> echeese: in the fstab for ur fat32 mount
[08:42] <Terminus> trappist, yeah... never had a problem with it until i updated a while ago...
[08:43] <trappist> Andrew[CS] : sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:43] <delire> Andrew[CS]  to extract it or install it? the latter 'dpkg -i file.deb'
[08:43] <CodenameKT> echeese: put the options user,owner,rw,umask=000
[08:43] <trappist> Terminus: lemme update and see if it breaks for me...
[08:43] <Andrew[CS] > or what does
[08:43] <thegladiator> 660 in chat is a good number
[08:43] <Terminus> trappist, ok... i hope you don't break anything on my account. :)
[08:43] <vb_coder> does anyone know how to get package xlib6g in synaptic?
[08:44] <Andrew[CS] > 'dpkg -i file.deb' mean?
[08:44] <trappist> Terminus: I don't see any relevant packages that would be updated
[08:44] <delire> Andrew[CS]  that's a commandline means of installing the file.
[08:44] <Terminus> trappist, it's supposed to run `ssh-askpass` right?
[08:44] <Terminus> hrmm... i'm gonna go look at my logs.
[08:44] <Andrew[CS] > ok, where do i run the command?
[08:45] <trappist> Terminus: yeah
[08:45] <delire> Andrew[CS]  it's the fastest way of installing a debian package. normally however, it really is best to use the synaptic interface to browse and install packages. what are you trying to install?
[08:45] <Andrew[CS] > amsn
[08:45] <echeese> Thanks
[08:45] <CGI460> does anyone use webmin with apache2 vhosting?  I can't seem to get webmin to read my vhost configs...
[08:45] <Terminus> !paste
[08:45] <ubotu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:45] <delire> Andrew[CS]  why don't you start synaptic to see if it's already available for you to install?
[08:46] <vb_coder> openmotif does not show in synaptic why?
[08:46] <VR^> hey all, how do i unmount my ipod?
[08:46] <Andrew[CS] > full filename is "amsn_0.95-2.ubuntu.deb"
[08:46] <VR^> i right-clicked on it, clicked unmount, and it told me it was unable to unmount it, or something
[08:46] <zblach> c'mon. is there no way to use all these fancy buttons and dials on my kb?
[08:46] <CodenameKT> echoose: no prob
[08:47] <Andrew[CS] > whats synaptic?
[08:47] <Terminus> trappist, here's my log, can't find anything relevant either. :( --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6685
[08:47] <Motoko-chan> Synaptic = GUI package installer
[08:47] <delire> Andrew[CS]  if you're sure it is for your version of Ubuntu (Breezy most likely) then start a terminal 'Applications--->Accessories--->Terminal and 'sudo dpkg -i amsn_0.95-2.ubuntu.deb'
[08:47] <nickrud> vb_coder, you're looking for libmotif3
[08:47] <CGI460> Andrew[CS] : it's a package manager
[08:47] <delire> Andrew[CS]  i however would use the synaptic 'package manager' to assist.
[08:47] <StarKruzr> okay
[08:47] <trappist> Terminus: if that's the whole log it doesn't look like your update completed
[08:48] <delire> Andrew[CS]  it will ensure that the file is authentically downloaded and cleanly installed.
[08:48] <StarKruzr> I installed ubuntu and my network was broken the first two times it tried to get packages to fill out the rest of the install
[08:48] <StarKruzr> now when I restart with the network connected, it DOESN'T TRY TO GET ANYTHING
[08:48] <delire> Andrew[CS]  unlike windows, linux package managers like to keep tabs on all the software on the machine. this improves security and ease of maintenance.
[08:48] <gnomefreak> how do i disable the onboard video card in bios if it doesnt have vga or ati or video what else should i look under
[08:48] <StarKruzr> how do I make it finish the install?
[08:49] <Terminus> trappist, well, that's the entire log for dpkg. aptitude says everything is up to date...
[08:49] <StarKruzr> or what package tasks did it want to install that I didn't let it install before?
[08:49] <Terminus> trappist, no broken packages either...
[08:49] <trappist> Terminus: what I mean is, it looks like a lot of packages got installed but not configured
[08:49] <Terminus> oh...
[08:49] <echeese> Oh yeah
[08:49] <gnomefreak> or should i enable acpci?
[08:49] <echeese> I can't get PHP working
[08:50] <echeese> Apache2 works fine
[08:50] <echeese> but php doesn't parse my files
[08:50] <echeese> it just shows me my code
[08:50] <trappist> echeese: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[08:50] <StarKruzr> do I have to restart my PXE install in order for this to work right?
[08:50] <delire> Andrew[CS]  go to the Administration menu and look for Synaptic there. once it has started up, search for 'amsn' and if it's found, click on the green box. a 'tick' will appear. then hit 'Apply' and it will download and install.
[08:50] <StarKruzr> and have it repartition and everything?
[08:51] <Terminus> trappist, doesn't look that different from previous logs... i just used the auto updater thingy here...
[08:51] <lowman62> hello room
[08:51] <mcphail> trappist: a2enmod is easier than manually linking
[08:52] <trappist> mcphail: yes, but I can never remember what it's called :)
[08:52] <echeese> trappist, php4 isn't in mods-available
[08:52] <mcphail> trappist: thank goodness for tab completion!
[08:53] <trappist> echeese: did you install libapache2-mod-php4?
[08:53] <trappist> mcphail: if only I could remember the a2 part :)
[08:53] <Andrew[CS] > ok well thanks people
[08:53] <echeese> trappist, :D no
[08:53] <Yobui> hi, i'm having loads of 2.2, 2.3 on my laptop, top shows 37% CPU usage (xmms, Xorg).. but nothing too heavy... what can I do, it's unresponsive
[08:53] <Andrew[CS] > this machine is so slow
[08:53] <Andrew[CS] > i'll bre back
[08:54] <Yobui> and last week it wasn't behaving like this
[08:54] <Andrew[CS] > hey... uh... is irc already installed on here? :p
[08:54] <Cancom_TS> I'm new to ubuntu.  anyone having experience installing radius?
[08:54] <Andrew[CS] > because i just realized im doing all my irc stuff off of archspace
[08:55] <Andrew[CS] > from a webpage
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : yeah - irssi and Xirc both
[08:55] <Andrew[CS] > oh...
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *Xchat IRC
[08:55] <Andrew[CS] > i'll check em out
[08:55] <Andrew[CS] > ok, Xchat is irc?
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yeah
[08:56] <Motoko-chan> Yes.
[08:56] <Yobui> yes, it's pretty decent
[08:56] <Andrew[CS] > wow
[08:56] <Yobui> I'm using it right now :)
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> and irssi is terminal irc
[08:56] <Andrew[CS] > nm...
[08:56] <slibs> is there any other way to remove wlan driver than apt-get remove?
[08:56] <delire> Andrew[CS]  use 'gaim'
[08:56] <Motoko-chan> KVIrc is nice too.
[08:56] <delire> Andrew[CS]  or yes, xchat.
[08:56] <Linfanguin> ohh god this is frustrating...i have no sound when i stream a video-i had a sound when i streamed with mplayer but it played choppy i changed the video player to vlc now i dont have sound-when i right click on the video it says micromedia flash player
[08:56] <Linfanguin> no sound arggggggggggggg
[08:56] <Andrew[CS] > i dont like it
[08:56] <Andrew[CS] > gaim that is
[08:56] <CodenameKT> pump bitchx i like better than irssi
[08:56] <delire> Andrew[CS]  gaim has support for jabber, yahoo, MSN and ICQ IIRC
[08:57] <echeese> trappist, still no luck
[08:57] <slibs> i use bitlbee, it can be runned on any irc-client since it's actually a irc-server
[08:57] <avalost> aye Seveas alive?
[08:57] <trappist> <3 bitlbee
[08:57] <slibs> it supports also jabber, yahoo msn and icq
[08:57] <Seveas> avalost, and kicking
[08:57] <slibs> no need for gaim \o/
[08:58] <trappist> slibs: just irssi and screen ;)
[08:58] <Andrew[CS] > delire, i know, i just dont like the chat window setup, i will be using it for anything besides msn
[08:58] <Andrew[CS] > but thanks
[08:58] <Andrew[CS] > l;ater
[08:58] <mcphail> screen rocks
[08:58] <avalost> Seveas, your java package returns error 403, are you aware?
[08:58] <Seveas> !tell avalost about seveas
[08:59] <delire> Andrew[CS]  i use irssi, or bitchx in the terminal, so i can hardly stand behind gaim as a good IRC client.
[08:59] <avalost> Seveas, that has something about 403 errors on it?
[09:00] <Seveas> avalost, it says why you should use a mirror
[09:00] <avalost> i have had your repos installed for some time however java never updates
[09:00] <avalost> i see
[09:00] <_joe> question for anyone listening: any easy way for me to upgrade firefox to version 1.5 on ubuntu 5.10?
[09:00] <mwe> avalost: yeah. using a mirror will probably solve it
[09:00] <trappist> !tell _joe about firefox15
[09:00] <Seveas> the base server is on an adsl line
[09:00] <zblach> hell. i can't remember how to type accents
[09:00] <Seveas> the mirrors have bigger pipes
[09:00] <Andrew[CS] > alright
[09:00] <_joe> thanks trappist :)
[09:01] <Seveas> zblach, lk ths :)
[09:01] <mwe> gg
[09:02] <zblach> SEJeff, howww?
[09:02] <Sarah-Evofangirl> anyone home?
[09:02] <mwe> zblach: pressing the accent key, then a letter works here
[09:02] <zblach> hey Sarah-Evofangirl, you've just asked that in the busiest room in IRC
[09:02] <zblach> mwe. accent keys? like : + E?
[09:02] <Sarah-Evofangirl> ._.;
[09:03] <kenneth> anyone else having problems installing firefox 1.5 ?
[09:03] <Terminus> trappist, thanks for the help... looks like the problem is with ssh-add... still have no idea why though.
[09:03] <Sarah-Evofangirl> well, this won't take long, I want to go back to Windows XP... how please?
[09:03] <trappist> Terminus: have you tried calling ssh-add manually?
[09:03] <mwe> zblach: what's that? I have keys with `'^"~ and so on. I press that key, then a letter
[09:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Sarah-Evofangirl: put the xp cd in..
[09:04] <Terminus> trappist, yeah... didn't work. same error message as with keychain.
[09:04] <zblach> :E
[09:04] <Sarah-Evofangirl> CanYouHelpPlz: doesn't work, thats why im here
[09:04] <mwe> zblach: that looks quite broken
[09:04] <zblach> mwe, verily
[09:05] <Terminus> trappist, i think it can't connect to the socket for some reason...
[09:05] <Sarah-Evofangirl> I need to know how to get XP back on my computer within the next 2 hours guys, not to be pushy ^_^;;
[09:06] <Seveas> Sarah-Evofangirl, ask on #windows, this channel is for Ubuntu support
[09:06] <CanYouHelpMePlz> What he Said!
[09:06] <Terminus> trappist, if i do a eval `ssh-agent` befor ssh-add though, it works...
[09:06] <FieldySnuts> probably the wrong network to even ask on
[09:06] <Sarah-Evofangirl> well I thought it would come under ubuntu help as I installed Ubuntu and now can't get back
[09:06] <FieldySnuts> comeon use some common sense, how would we know a thing about windows...
[09:07] <CanadianSnow> how do i change the ports im trying to use?
[09:07] <poimen> somone here is a rom player?
[09:07] <topyli> does the firefox package building tool mentioned at the end of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion work?
[09:07] <poimen> someone here kwon a good linux ps2 emulator
[09:07] <poimen> ??
[09:07] <Cancom_TS> RADIUS - anyone listening installed this...
[09:07] <Seveas> Sarah-Evofangirl, did you go to #windows to get rid of it by installing Ubuntu? I guess not, so don't comoe her asking for windows help
[09:07] <amb> Sarah-Evofangirl, are you set to boot from CD-Rom?
[09:08] <Sarah-Evofangirl> amb: yes
[09:08] <Seveas> Cancom_TS, I just have to use it (wlan with 802.1x RADIUS authentication)
[09:08] <amb> Sarah-Evofangirl, so what happens when you boot the CD-Rom?
[09:08] <Seveas> amb...
[09:08] <trappist> amb: meet her in #windows
[09:08] <Cypherus> pango ?
[09:08] <mwe> come on take the windows discussion out of here
[09:09] <Terminus> trappist, gah... for some reason, it worked when i set it to --inherit local instead of --inherit local-once, which is the default. :/
[09:09] <amb> just trying to be helpful...
[09:09] <Cypherus> firefox needs pango to work ?
[09:09] <trappist> Terminus: crazy.  never heard of such a thing.  glad it worked :)
[09:09] <Seveas> amb, that's ok, but the channel is busy enough with just Ubuntu problems :)
[09:09] <Sarah-Evofangirl> Seveas = jerkass
[09:10] <trappist> awesome
[09:10] <Terminus> trappist, yeah... thanks for the help man. i think it doesn't like the existing ssh-agent for some reason. heh.
[09:10] <trappist> Terminus: busted socket or something maybe
[09:11] <CodenameKT> khermans: hey
[09:11] <jvl> dvd burn process finished flawlessly :)
[09:11] <Terminus> trappist, yeah... maybe i should reboot and clean /tmp.
[09:11] <jvl> thx for the help delire.
[09:11] <jvl> great weekend all im out
[09:11] <Terminus> i'll try it out.
[09:12] <Cypherus> Anyone here with amd64 ?
[09:12] <Seveas> !tell Cypherus about anyone
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: o_O
[09:13] <amb> Cypherus, yes
[09:13] <Seveas> PuMpErNiCkLe, ?
[09:13] <Cypherus> amb: using firefox 1.5 ?
[09:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !tell seveas about manners
[09:13] <amb> Cypherus, yes
[09:13] <Dreamglider> Hello, i tried this script but i cant get it to mount my iso ! -> http://www.devmafia.com/Tutorials-Linux-Iso-Mount-Script anyone know what i do wrong ?
[09:13] <nekohayo> could anyone tell me why the fonts FreeSans, FreeSerif, etc have some colors bleeding, as if they had wrong subpixel hinting?
[09:13] <pa_l> wtf is wrong with mozilla firefox, its so slow sometimes
[09:14] <Seveas> CanYouHelpMePlz, ?
[09:14] <Cypherus> amb: did you have any problems installing it ?
[09:14] <deejoe> !tell deejoe about manners
[09:14] <amb> Cypherus, sorry, "yes but" - i.e. I compiled it, ran it, downgraded to 1.0.7, but still have Thunderbird running
[09:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> pa_l: thats java for you
[09:14] <nekohayo> pa_l, what do you mean, "sometimes" ?
[09:14] <jenda> pa_l: turn on pipelining
[09:14] <amb> Cypherus, does it by any chance complain on library loading?
[09:14] <mwe> pa_l: and disable the ipv6 stuff
[09:14] <pa_l> how do i turn on pipeline?
[09:14] <delire> pa_l about:config
[09:14] <jenda> pa_l: type about:config in the address bar
[09:14] <jenda> and search for pipeline
[09:14] <Cypherus> amb: library loading ?
[09:14] <jenda> make it "true"
[09:15] <amb> Cypherus, question 1, did you build from scratch, or did you download a binary, and if so 32-bit or 64-bit?
[09:15] <pa_l> no pipeline
[09:15] <jenda> Can anyone tell me how to access my routers IP table through telnet?
[09:15] <pa_l> jenda couldnt find pipline
[09:15] <jenda> pa_l: pipelining
[09:15] <delire> pa_l 'pipelining'
[09:15] <Cypherus> amb: downloaded from mozilla.com (didnt find anything but binaries there).
[09:15] <delire> jenda you can't ssh into your router?
[09:16] <delire> jenda once you have logged into the router, type 'iptables -L'
[09:16] <pa_l> no cannot find pipelining
[09:16] <mwe> if you run 64bit ubuntu you can't get flash or the java plugin
[09:16] <amb> Cypherus, 32-bit or 64-bit? 32 bit I presume
[09:16] <delire> pa_l use the filter at the top
[09:16] <jenda> delire: how do I ssh?
[09:17] <delire> jenda 'ssh username@routeraddress'
[09:17] <bshumate> pa_l : network.http.pipelining is what you're after
[09:17] <jenda> k
[09:17] <pa_l> delire which filter explain a little more in detail
[09:17] <Cypherus> amb: probally, downloaded from the frontpage.
[09:17] <Cypherus> amb: how about this one: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5/source/ ?
[09:17] <Terminus> trappist, for some reason, a stupid reboot solved the problem. heh.
[09:18] <delire> jenda: what is your internal IP? /sbin/ifconfig
[09:18] <amb> Cypherus, you will have problems building it from source greater than problems in getting the binary to run :-)
[09:18] <pa_l> bshumate: that address is not working
[09:18] <trappist> Terminus: that makes me think simply killing and rerunning ssh-agent would have worked
[09:18] <amb> Cypherus, I suspect what your problem is (assuming you are running Breezy) is that the 32 bit pango libraries etc. are not fixed up
[09:19] <Terminus> trappist, yeah... grrr... i've been away from linux for too long. haven't used this box in a month.
[09:19] <jenda> delire: OK, got it, thanks :)
[09:19] <delire> jenda: ;)
[09:19] <Cypherus> amb: probally ! I keep getting some pango errors.
[09:19] <amb> Cypherus, follow the instructions re 64bit here: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download/
[09:19] <bshumate> pa_l: you do not type that into the address bar!  you type "about:config" into the address bar, and then look for network.http.pipelining, and then double-click on it!
[09:19] <delire> jenda: once you learn to use ssh you'll bawk at the word 'telnet' ;)
[09:19] <jenda> delire: But I still can't get the graphics to work... I'll now try running xmms on a fresh install...
[09:19] <Terminus> trappist, anyway, thanks. :)
[09:19] <Yobui> where do you configure the amount of eye candy KDE uses in kubuntu
[09:20] <delire> jenda so you're not in X? not sure what you mean
[09:20] <mwe> Yobui: kcontrol
[09:20] <jenda> delire: I am. And xmms works!
[09:20] <yanis> when I try to install mplayer I get : mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable
[09:20] <Cypherus> amb: so instaling Xara is the solution to all my firefox problems? :p
[09:20] <amb> Cypherus, that's from the second bullet "Create a 32bit pixbuf loaders file" to the last one, except change the last one to "32bit Firefox"
[09:20] <pa_l> as iam saying i cannot find network.http.pipelining either on that list about:config
[09:20] <jenda> delire: Now I'm guessing I'll try NVidia next...
[09:20] <amb> Cypherus, (or whatever the path to Firefox/Mozilla/whatever you want to run is)
[09:21] <amb> Cypherus, no, I just wrote that bit of the page. The same instructions work with anything that needs pango
[09:21] <amb> Cypherus, easier than me explaining the lot on IRC
[09:21] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[09:21] <delire> jenda: cool.. make sure you backup your config before getting going (it's in 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_BUP' ;)
[09:21] <amb> Cypherus, obviously you don't need the Xara stuff
[09:21] <blue-frog> delire, nvidia-glx makes a backup
[09:21] <pa_l> bshumate if you could be so kind and explain, what iam looking for
[09:21] <bshumate> pa_l: do you currently have something typed into the filter text field? if so, just click the "Show_All" button at the right, and scroll down until you see network.http.pipelning -  the list is in alphabetical order
[09:22] <delire> blue-frog hah, does it.
[09:22] <sorush21> could someone please take a look at my sources list to find out what is wrong I can 't upgrade ?
[09:22] <sorush21> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6686
[09:22] <yanis> when I try to install mplayer I get : mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20  but it is not installable . why is that?
[09:22] <Cypherus> amb: ah, now I understand ! Change Xara with firefox, and you got a guide for it.
[09:22] <jenda> delire: yup...
[09:22] <mwe> yanis: what mirror is that you're using?
[09:22] <Cypherus> amb: so this worked for you? (wasn't there a but?)
[09:22] <zblach> so, mwe, what is the magical accent trick?
[09:22] <yanis> mwe: gr
[09:22] <mwe> yanis: sounds like a b0rked one
[09:22] <symtab> hello...does ubuntu have a graphical configuration program for grub?
[09:23] <amb> Cypherus, yep. I have got /most/ pango and gdk-pixbuf stuff to run that way. I got Thunderbird to work by building from source, but it was a pig (had to patch stuff)
[09:23] <mwe> zblach: I told you
[09:23] <yanis> mwe: so try tomorrow for example?
[09:23] <pa_l> ok now iam getting something bshumate, should i set network.http.pipelinig to true?
[09:23] <zblach> mwe, i didn't get it :(
[09:23] <Cypherus> amb: so i can still use the binaries, or do I have to build it from source ?
[09:23] <mwe> yanis: no use a mirror for ubuntu
[09:23] <delire> pa_l yes
[09:23] <mwe> !mplayer
[09:23] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> symtab: Grubconf
[09:23] <mwe> yanis: look at that
[09:24] <bshumate> pa_l: yep...double-click the line to set it to true
[09:24] <pa_l> delire should i disable network.dns.disableipv6?
[09:24] <symtab> PuMpErNiCkLe, which package contains Grubconf?
[09:24] <amb> Cypherus, you have a choice: either try the mechanism on the Xara page with the binaries, and it will work (or fail to work) in about 2 minutes, OR you can try building from source, which took me AGES and heartache
[09:24] <Cypherus> ;)
[09:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> symtab: None that I can see, but you can get it from http://grubconf.sourceforge.net/ :)
[09:24] <symtab> PuMpErNiCkLe, i cant find it with synaptic search
[09:24] <amb> Cypherus, I don't guarantee the pango stuff will fix it, but it has fixed about 10 other apps so far
[09:24] <Cypherus> If it fails, ill just stick with the old one I guess.
[09:24] <mwe> zblach: I press one of them, `'^~" etc. then a letter lk I
[09:24] <delire> pa_l anything ipv6 i would imagine is safe to be disabled given the world currently still uses a 4 block addressing system ;)
[09:24] <zblach> 'e
[09:25] <symtab> PuMpErNiCkLe, :)
[09:25] <mwe> zblach: that's a quote
[09:25] <mwe> zblach: press the proper key
[09:25] <zblach> :e
[09:25] <zblach> e:
[09:26] <mwe> zblach: come on. use the accent keys. not colon and quote
[09:26] <pa_l> delire and thats all? it should be faster now?
[09:26] <zblach> accent keys... ; ' # [ ]  and =, right?
[09:26] <landerro> can sb help me? I followed the steps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion but I can't run firefox. When I start it in the konsole i get this error: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:26] <delire> pa_l yep, should be
[09:26] <mwe> zblach: no. I don't know what kind of keyboard you got
[09:26] <Seveas> landerro, are you using kubuntu perhaps?
[09:26] <btaylor5619> can someone help me out here?
[09:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> symtab: Also, Gnome System Tools
[09:26] <landerro> yes
[09:26] <Seveas> !find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[09:26] <mwe> zblach: mine has keys with tilde (~) etc on it
[09:26] <jenda> btaylor5619: with what?
[09:27] <Seveas> landerro, then apt-get install firefox
[09:27] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0' (2 shown): (/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.800.6) in libdevel/libgtk2.0-0-dbg ;; (/usr/lib/{libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0|libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.800.6}) in libs/libgtk2.0-0.
[09:27] <LabThug> Anyone in here setup apache2 and mod_perl on ubuntu?  I've got things installed, but it wants me to open the .pl files instead of processing them.  Ideas?
[09:27] <Seveas> that will install all of its dependencies too
[09:27] <landerro> seveas: but that's firefox 1.07 and not 1.5
[09:27] <yanis> mwe: where do I find a mirror of the multiverse?
[09:27] <Seveas> landerro, correct, but you will need the dependencies for firefox
[09:27] <btaylor5619> i've got two hard drives, both of which have been mounted, but i can't write anything to "/hdb1"... what's going on?
[09:27] <martin_> a media library list as in winamp or itunes?
[09:27] <Seveas> you can uninstall it again immediately
[09:27] <symtab> PuMpErNiCkLe, i know...but gnome-system-tools is not included in ubuntu, some modules from it are, but not the grub/lilo configuration
[09:28] <martin_> What is a Linux media player that has a media library like in itunes or winamp?
[09:28] <LabThug> btaylor5619: if they are SCSI drives, they'll come up /sda#
[09:28] <trappist> landerro: sudo a2enmod mod_perl
[09:28] <mwe> !tell yanis about multiverse
[09:28] <landerro> seveas: so I can't install 1.5?
[09:28] <btaylor5619> no, both of my disks are IDEs
[09:28] <mwe> yanis: read /msg from ubotu
[09:28] <Seveas> landerro, yes you can, please read my lines carefully
[09:28] <pa_l> firefox is still extremly slow
[09:29] <landerro> seveas: sorry I'm a newbie, what do I have to do?
[09:29] <tom> in what file are the keyboard shortcuts stored?
[09:30] <btaylor5619> so why can't i write to the second hard drive?
[09:30] <martin_> So know one knows of amedia player that can handle media libraries?
[09:30] <mcphail> btaylor5619: is your second disk partitioned and formatted?
[09:30] <btaylor5619> yes, it's got a partition table and everything... it's even got a folder called "lost+found" in it
[09:31] <mcphail> btaylor5619: you'll need to set permissions for the mount point
[09:31] <btaylor5619> using "chmod"?
[09:31] <mcphail> btaylor5619: yes
[09:31] <mcphail> sudo chmod
[09:32] <btaylor5619> ok
[09:32] <mcphail> (or chown)
[09:32] <btaylor5619> ok
[09:32] <btaylor5619> thanks... i'll try it!
[09:32] <mcphail> ok
[09:33] <mcphail> trappist: this a2enmod thing is a recurring theme...
[09:33] <zblach> chown +r us /base
[09:33] <yanis> mwe: I still havent found a mirror
[09:33] <mwe> permissions of mount points have absoulutely no effect. only options to mount do
[09:33] <Andrew[CS] > ya, xchat is only working for this server/channel
[09:33] <Andrew[CS] > whats up?
[09:34] <sexcopter8000m> is there a nice and easy way to convert .ogg files to, say, mp3 or m4a or aac etc?
[09:34] <trappist> mcphail: maybe I'll remember it next time :)
[09:34] <ColonelPanique> zblach : not quite.... chown -R us /base is more like it ;-)
[09:34] <mwe> yanis: just add the word universe to the end of the line with your current mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:34] <Andrew[CS] > and why isn't the new amsn on the list of stuff to download, the old one is (.94) but not the new one (.95)
[09:34] <mwe> yanis: back it up first in case you screw up though
[09:35] <zblach> ColonelPanique, thanks. i needed to know what I was doing wrong
[09:35] <Andrew[CS] > uh...
[09:35] <yanis> mwe: of course I have mirror rep. in my sources
[09:35] <mwe> suggesting to change permissions of mount points is bad advice. they have no effect on mounted file systems whatsoever
[09:36] <mwe> yanis: yes. then add universe at the end like I said
[09:36] <yanis> mwe: you just told me to find another mirror because maybe its brobken
[09:36] <mwe> yanis: no I meant mirror for mplayer
[09:36] <Eugman> !customization
[09:36] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Eugman
[09:36] <mwe> yanis: wasn't sure you were using the universe one
[09:37] <Eugman> !printer
[09:37] <ubotu> printer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:37] <ColonelPanique> mwe: whose changing perms on mount points in here?
[09:37] <yanis> mwe: ah.so you mean a mplayer specfic mirror
[09:37] <yanis> mwe: not a general ubuntu mirror?
[09:38] <mwe> yanis: forget about it. if you didn't put some random debian mirror or something in there you should be good
[09:38] <pa_l> firefox suchs
[09:38] <mwe> ColonelPanique: 21:31 <mcphail> btaylor5619: you'll need to set permissions for the mount point
[09:38] <pa_l> firefox sucks
[09:38] <Sonderblade> how do you upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[09:38] <janoli> firefox 1.5 pa_l ?
[09:39] <ColonelPanique> mwe: ohh, i missed that...
[09:39] <pa_l> janoli its not responding
[09:39] <yanis> mwe: I do understand now. I *did* add another line with multiverse
[09:39] <Cypherus> this means: /lib/libdl.so.2: version `dir' not found (required by /lib/libncursesw.so.5)
[09:39] <Cypherus> ?
[09:40] <fevel> Do I have to create an account on cedega??
[09:40] <echeese> Where are my fonts?
[09:40] <tom> grrr. firefox doesn't want to start up. it says my profile is already in use, but i don't have any firefox running. i don't want to use another profile. what can i do?
[09:40] <mcphail> mwe: drwxr-xr-x  4 neil neil 4096 2005-12-22 15:23 second - my /mnt directory
[09:40] <pa_l> janoli i have 1.0.7
[09:40] <mwe> yanis: pastebin your sources.list and I'll go over it if you want me to
[09:40] <janoli> why not 1.5?
[09:40] <janoli> rules !
[09:40] <mwe> mcphail: yes?
[09:41] <yanis> mwe: http://pastebin.ca/36034
[09:41] <pa_l> janoli can i get 1.5 from apt=
[09:41] <mwe> mcphail: changing owner wont effect mounted file systems
[09:41] <CodenameKT> tom: make sure all the phile permissions in the /home/codenamekt/.mozilla
[09:41] <janoli> nop, u just install the tar within a directory in linux
[09:41] <janoli> then run from there
[09:41] <kent> tom, even after a reboot?  One solution (though not really ideal solution) is to remove the .mozilla folder in home.
[09:41] <mwe> mcphail: however root should own that dir so normal users don't tamper with it when it's not mounted
[09:41] <CodenameKT> tom: are set to userid:userid:
[09:42] <tom> kent: lol. and all my bookmarks, all my extensions and my whole configuration will be deleted?
[09:42] <bshumate> tom: try removing ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/lock
[09:42] <kent> tom, correct. :)
[09:42] <_null> Why is a gpg --list-keys | wc -l returning 3 if I execute it on the bash but if it's executed by a script it returns 0...?
[09:42] <Donvinzk> Hi, I would like to setup my internet connection. Is rp-ppoe.so part of the standard installation ? I am under windows, I can not see.
[09:43] <mcphail> mwe: agree on the last point
[09:43] <Donvinzk> I neet to connect via ethernet
[09:43] <tom> btw is there a firefox 1.5 package or do i have to download it manually?
[09:43] <Ng> tom: see the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page
[09:43] <yanis> mwe: what do you think?
[09:44] <mwe> yanis: you have hoary multiverse in there! change every occurence of hoary to breezy and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:44] <mwe> yanis: line 33 and 34
[09:45] <mwe> yanis: that's why it doesn't work, probably
[09:45] <tom> where are all the gnome settings stored? e.g. panel settings or keyboard shorcuts?
[09:45] <yanis> thanks mwe
[09:45] <mwe> yanis: I'll post a cleaned up sources.list for you
[09:45] <jenda> YES!!!!
[09:45] <jenda> delire_away: ah... you're away... I finally got it working
[09:47] <pa_l> how do i install firefox...tar.gz?
[09:47] <pa_l> i have don tar xvzf fire....
[09:47] <Chousuke> You shouldn't install from source.
[09:47] <jahshua--> sudo apt-get install firefox ?
[09:47] <pa_l> but then i dont want to run firefox from that directory all the time
[09:47] <bshumate> tom : ~/.gnome2
[09:47] <Chousuke> nor the  binary package.
[09:48] <pa_l> well if firefox 1.5 is in the apt- package manager i could have done that but, its not there
[09:48] <yanis> pa_l: tar -xvvzf firefox.tar.gz
[09:48] <jahshua--> update your repositories
[09:48] <jahshua--> it is there
[09:48] <jahshua--> thats where i got it
[09:48] <yanis> hohohooooooooooo
[09:48] <Chousuke> in Dapper?
[09:48] <tom> jahshua--: it is not for me
[09:48] <yanis> mwe: it worksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[09:48] <jahshua--> update your repositories
[09:48] <jahshua--> sources list
[09:48] <pa_l> howto update repository?
[09:48] <tom> jahshua--: how? apt-get update/upgrade ?
[09:49] <jahshua--> no
[09:49] <jahshua--> hmm
[09:49] <Chousuke> jahshua--: You shouldn't use dapper yet.
[09:49] <jahshua--> !sources
[09:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:49] <PMantis> How do I commit my disk cache to disk (ext3) ?
[09:49] <jahshua--> im not using dapper
[09:49] <Ng> pa_l: there are instructions in the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page for how to install ff1.5 on breezy
[09:49] <Chousuke> Are you using backports then?
[09:49] <Chousuke> !firefox
[09:49] <jahshua--> yes
[09:49] <jahshua--> here!
[09:49] <jahshua--> !sources
[09:49] <Ng> don't use dapper unless you know what you are doing
[09:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:50] <Donvinzk> Is rp-ppoe a package in the ubuntu standard installation ?
[09:50] <Chousuke> !tell pa_l about firefox1.5
[09:50] <mwe> yanis: back up the old one and use this one instead http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6687
[09:50] <jenda> Chousuke: The whole thing WAS caused by the 686 kernel :))
[09:51] <Chousuke> jenda: hoh
[09:51] <tom> bshumate: the point is: i did a backup of my whole /home directory but the old gnome settings don't work any more
[09:51] <symtab> apt-get update doesnt work
[09:51] <symtab> any ideas why
[09:51] <Chousuke> jenda: weird
[09:51] <symtab> http://pastebin.com/493923
[09:51] <bshumate> PMantis: sync
[09:51] <slashx1896> hey..
[09:51] <Tyrsis> Can someone help me for a sec
[09:51] <jenda> Chousuke: you're tellin me... weird indeed
[09:51] <jahshua--> Tyrsis: with what?
[09:51] <bshumate> tom: sorry about that.
[09:51] <PMantis> bshumate, That's it? Cool, thanks.
[09:51] <slashx1896> i just copyed/burned a movie using dvdbackup,shrinkdvd, and k3b, and the dvd wont play on any player
[09:51] <Tyrsis> I am trying to get my wireless to wor
[09:51] <Tyrsis> k
[09:51] <bshumate> PMantis: yep-  man sync ;-)
[09:52] <mwe> yanis:
[09:52] <Tyrsis> I did the ndiswrapper
[09:52] <tom> bshumate: any ideas why it doesn't work?
[09:52] <bshumate> tom: nah, sorry.
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ok brb im gonna try one more thing :(
[09:53] <Tyrsis> But when I do modprobe is says.... FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10.5-386/kerneldrivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[09:53] <Tyrsis> Operation Not Permitted
[09:53] <Eugman> Ubuntu says my printer is ready but any time I try to give it a job the job will be there for a second and then dissapear. It seems to be retaing the information because it's up to 5 test pages now.
[09:54] <mwe> Tyrsis: use sudo modprobe
[09:55] <Tyrsis> I do
[09:55] <Tyrsis> Thats what it says when I use it
[09:55] <Eugman> whoops it's not up to 5 test pages it just is up to job number 5
[09:56] <mwe> Tyrsis: pastebin dmesg|tail -n 20
[09:56] <Niekie> Woohoo, finally fixed some Java IRC bot to behave correctly.
[09:56] <Eugman> Incase anyone can help me it says the printer is Ready: printer off-line. But the printer is blinks ready so it is powered on.
[09:56] <Motoko-chan> Is there a newer version of the kernel gfor ubuntu? Anything higher than 2.6.12-9 ?
[09:56] <Tyrsis> Command not found nwe
[09:57] <slynux> Hey, I need create the live-cd, How I can do This??
[09:57] <Chousuke> It's not easy.
[09:57] <mwe> Tyrsis: pastebin is a place to paste on the web. I want you to paste the output of "dmesg|tail -n20"
[09:57] <Chousuke> slynux: google for deadcd
[09:57] <Tyrsis> oh
[09:57] <mwe> !tell Tyrsis about pastebin
[09:58] <Tyrsis> ok
[09:58] <Eugman> slynux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo?highlight=%28custom%29
[09:58] <mwe> Tyrsis: read /msg from ubotu
[09:58] <echeese> can I setup my system so someone else can access a second display via VNC?
[09:58] <jhenn> shouldn't 'dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg' reconfigure x?
[09:58] <Terrasque> what do I need to mount nfs on client?
[09:58] <blue-frog> echeese, installe freenx will be faster and secured
[09:58] <Tyrsis> I did, but the PC I have ubuntu on can not connect to the net though
[09:58] <echeese> blue-frog, how do I do that, then?
[09:59] <blue-frog> echeese, wiki
[09:59] <echeese> ah
[09:59] <echeese> found it
[09:59] <mwe> Tyrsis: well if you can't paste the log I don't know how to help
[09:59] <psusi> anyone know how on earth maildirs keep track of what folder messages are in when all the message files are in ~/Maildir/cur instead of in a seperate directory for each folder?
[09:59] <jhenn> how do i reconfigure x?
[09:59] <Tyrsis> I can say this'
[10:00] <Tyrsis> After doing that
[10:00] <Tyrsis> It says everything failed
[10:00] <tom> jhenn: something like: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:00] <Tyrsis> loadndiswrapper failed
[10:00] <mwe> Tyrsis: that's not an error message. I need the output of dmesg and you can't paste it in here or people get pissed
[10:00] <helpPlease> hello, i want to join a french chan did you know the name please?
[10:01] <mwe> !fr
[10:01] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:01] <yanis> nice bot mwe  :)
[10:01] <yanis> !el
[10:01] <ubotu> yanis: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:01] <yanis> !gr
[10:01] <ubotu> Elate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi
[10:01] <yanis> cool!
[10:01] <bunghole> what does it mean one says, 'this distro is debian-based' ?  how exactly is it related to debian, ubuntu I mean
[10:01] <Tyrsis> Well what would you recommend me try nwe ?
[10:01] <bunghole> I got breezy, just kinda hesistant to install it
[10:01] <polpak> bunghole, it's built from debian packages
[10:02] <jhenn> What is kernel framebuffer device interface and should i use it?
[10:02] <mwe> Tyrsis: I can't say anything unless I see what dmesg says
[10:02] <polpak> bunghole, and changes (fixes, etc) are sent back to the debian maintainers
[10:02] <helpPlease> merci thanks
[10:02] <bunghole> sarge/testing have different packages than ubuntu
[10:02] <Tyrsis> ok let me see something
[10:02] <bunghole> this is based on unstable?
[10:02] <bunghole> I am looking to run apache, vsftpd, smb, nfs, mail, and ssh
[10:02] <charwood> bunghole: Not really, it's heavily modified and is quite stable.
[10:03] <bunghole> I want a stable system
[10:03] <bunghole> im on sarge atm
[10:03] <bunghole> ok
[10:03] <mwe> bunghole: I believe ubuntu is based on sid
[10:03] <Ng> bunghole: it's based on debian, some of the packages come from unstable, but the packages in the "main" repository are stable and supported
[10:03] <polpak> bunghole, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[10:03] <bunghole> ok, and it does have xfce4.2?  I cannot live without it
[10:03] <polpak> !info xfce
[10:03] <echeese> blue-frog, So I can't do it on an amd64 system?
[10:03] <bunghole> the LUG meeting last night gave out breezy 5.10 cds
[10:04] <bunghole> !info xfce4
[10:04] <ubotu> xfce4: (Installs Xfce4 core and scripts to set it up), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 4.2.2 (breezy), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[10:04] <johan> Ubuntu identifies my video card as an s3-card although it is an Nvidia Geforce 4 4200 ti... Anybody knows what's wrong??
[10:04] <bunghole> ahh aswet
[10:04] <bunghole> sweet!
[10:04] <blue-frog> echeese, if it says so... don't remeber what it says for 64
[10:05] <bunghole> polpak, for future ref., official name is xfce4
[10:05] <bunghole> at least until 5 comes out
[10:05] <bunghole> heh
[10:05] <polpak> Seveas, why does ubotu send replies directly to me instead of to the channel?
[10:05] <polpak> bunghole, yeah, I saw that after I apt-cache searched it
[10:05] <mwe> polpak: you should probably ask cafuego IIRC
[10:06] <bunghole> polpak, alias search='apt-cache search'
[10:06] <bunghole> polpak, .bashrc
[10:06] <polpak> bunghole, I know how to alias =p
[10:06] <bunghole> real handy shit
[10:06] <johan> Ubuntu identifies my video card as an s3-card although it is an Nvidia Geforce 4 4200 ti... Anybody knows what's wrong??
[10:06] <polpak> bunghole, thanks for the recommendation though
[10:06] <bunghole> polpak, sure bor
[10:06] <bunghole> bro*
[10:06] <mwe> that's the top of laziness :)
[10:07] <bunghole> mwe, height of laziness indeed
[10:07] <polpak> johan, can you pastebin the output of lspci ?
[10:07] <bluefoxicy> man
[10:07] <bunghole> why on save time and effort when you can
[10:07] <bluefoxicy> gtuxnes isn't in the repos :(
[10:07] <muhammad> hello
[10:08] <polpak> bluefoxicy, what is it?
[10:09] <bluefoxicy> polpak:  an NES emulator
[10:10] <Java_the_Hutt> I am trying to install Automatrix, but it requires a pacakge called Zenity. I can find the package anywhere, what can i do ?
[10:10] <mwe> !automatix
[10:10] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:10] <Java_the_Hutt> oh
[10:10] <Java_the_Hutt> I also thought so that way, but there were so many positive comments in the forums that i am almost convinced
[10:11] <_oP> hello fat swetty naked geeks!
[10:11] <_oP> :p
[10:11] <mcphail> Has anyone on amd64 successfully installed mythtv?
[10:11] <ilba7r> Java_the_Hutt, you can install the packages automatix install search for what you want and install it
[10:12] <CodenameKT> _oP: skinny naked geek
[10:12] <mwe> mcphail: multimedia is generally a pain on ubuntu 64bit. use 32bit instead is the general recommendation for now
[10:12] <Java_the_Hutt> ilba7r: connection to my question ?
[10:12] <djm62> my webcam is a matter of record, but how could anyone know I was a geek?
[10:12] <_oP> also possible hehe but naked and a geek that is for shure
[10:12] <mcphail> mwe: i like a challenge
[10:13] <_oP> :))
[10:13] <CodenameKT> _oP: affirmative
[10:13] <ilba7r> Java_the_Hutt, you were asking about running automatrix shell
[10:13] <_oP> noob here if someone has a noob guestion cmon and ask
[10:13] <merly> I did a fresh install "server-expert" and i tried to install x, but it doesn't seem to work. startx goes to either black screen or weird colors. which package should I install?
[10:14] <mwe> mcphail: yeah that's a workaround
[10:14] <mcphail> mwe: i even installed _flashblock_ the other day ;)
[10:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Motoko-chan: yes
[10:14] <merly> also, apt-get install asks for the CD, doesn't dl from the web. any easy way to change that?
[10:15] <jenda> merly: there is :)
[10:15] <jenda> merly: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:15] <merly> jenda - which line should i change? i enabled universe multiverse, etc
[10:16] <jenda> merly: is the first line about the CD?
[10:16] <merly> jenda. don't know... in other room, i'll check it out. if so, i comment it out?
[10:16] <mwe> merly: and you did sudo apt-get update too?
[10:17] <jenda> merly: yes, that's best
[10:18] <merly> jenda - thanks, and if i install icewm-lite or xubuntu-desktop (or something else that requires x) will that get all the xorg files too?
[10:18] <mwe> merly: yeah
[10:18] <moodog> Evening laddles and jellyspoons
[10:18] <jenda> merly: yup
[10:18] <merly> mwe, jenda- thanks. i'll try that and come pout if not.
[10:18] <jenda> moodog; evening :)
[10:18] <derek_djons> goodevening all 2 :)
[10:19] <jenda> no prob merlyBRB
[10:20] <minyaliel> Hey :) I need some help... can't get midi files to work properly - which is strange, because when I used Windows withthe same comp., it wasn't a problem at all...
[10:20] <BxL> is there a way to change the filesstem without formatting?
[10:21] <derek_djons> Very strange thing happend today. I installed the Animatix media codec and ... no sound anymore when I started watching a video file on the internet.
[10:21] <derek_djons> But yesterday without animatix... no problem
[10:22] <echeese> E: Build-Depends dependency for nx cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package debhelper can satisfy version requirements
[10:22] <ilba7r> derek_djons how about other media files
[10:22] <topyli> can someone report success or failure with the "experimental" firefox builder mentioned on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:22] <derek_djons> They operate fine. Also system sounds are operating... it's only some media files like this one http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1165754797197197496
[10:22] <ilba7r> derek_djons, try lsof | grep /dev/dsp when you run into this problem again to see what program is using your sound device
[10:24] <derek_djons> ilba7r, is it normal that the command may return such an error? lsof: WARNING: can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[10:24] <derek_djons>       Output information may be incomplete.
[10:25] <derek_djons> Or am I doing something stupid :)
[10:25] <ilba7r> derek_djons, i can not run the file at all
[10:25] <ilba7r> derek_djons, it is lsof | grep /dev/dsp
[10:25] <midza> how can speak german
[10:25] <ilba7r> l is small L
[10:26] <ptolo> midza: #ubuntu-de
[10:26] <Hericus> Sometimes I hate some noobs.
[10:26] <echeese> :(
[10:26] <derek_djons> ilba7r, that's odd... five minutes ago I still could see the video part, but no sound.
[10:26] <Hericus> Do I have to apt-get install C compiler?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:26] <ilba7r> hericus it is build-essentials for compiling
[10:26] <Hericus> I know.
[10:26] <Hericus> ...
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Hericus, i told you how to install it
[10:27] <Hericus> ?
[10:27] <echeese> How can I fix this? E: Build-Depends dependency for nx cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package debhelper can satisfy version requirements
[10:27] <Hericus> Alright.
[10:27] <Hericus> Thanks?
[10:27] <merly> I changed xorg.conf so that default is 16 bit, and i reduced all resolution sizes to 800 x 600
[10:27] <ilba7r> derek_djons, ah it is downloading perhaps afterh the download  is comp
[10:27] <merly> but startx still shows me gibberish
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Hericus, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:27] <Hericus> o_O gnomefreak, alright. thanks.
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Hericus, yw
[10:28] <derek_djons> ilba7r, Oh indeed... it's buffering quite a big chunk.
[10:28] <derek_djons> ilba7r, in the meantime I'm going to try something here... hold on please :)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> echeese, what ar eyou aiming to do?
[10:28] <merly> is there some way to enter into the x configuration PROGRAM, rather than modifying xorg.conf by hand?
[10:28] <echeese> gnomefreak, compile nx
[10:28] <zetor> hi ya all!
[10:28] <_oP> hello
[10:29] <timfrost> merly, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:29] <gnomefreak> did you run apt-get build-dep <packagename>?
[10:29] <echeese> yes
[10:29] <merly> timfrost - thanks! i'll try that
[10:29] <ilba7r> derek_djons, it seem it need to download it all before playing. PS if it is quick time i know that the mozilla-firefox pluging have some problems with quicktime
[10:30] <echeese> sudo apt-get build-dep nx
[10:30] <derek_djons> ilba7r, could be indeed... I
[10:30] <hikenboot> hello all---had to reinstall ubuntu...i only have one machine and xwindows would not start...question...is there an alternative for the program lynx that works from a command line thats easier to navigate perhaps?
[10:30] <gnomefreak> yes echeese  that is it
[10:30] <derek_djons> ilba7r, I'm gonna check the source to see what kind of format it is
[10:31] <hikenboot> I was unable to use to to successfully navigate the web to get help on errors
[10:31] <gnomefreak> links2 hikenboot
[10:31] <echeese> gnomefreak, I get that errror when I run that though
[10:31] <hikenboot> is it much better than lynx?
[10:31] <ilba7r> merly, try dpkg --configure and packagename for reconfiguring
[10:31] <gnomefreak> echeese, thats when your getting that error?
[10:31] <echeese> Yes
[10:31] <gnomefreak> thats good :)
[10:31] <gnomefreak> hikenboot, thats for you to decide
[10:31] <gnomefreak> echeese, is it freenx?
[10:32] <hikenboot> oh downloading it now to try
[10:32] <echeese> gnomefreak, freenx didn't give me that error
[10:32] <echeese> but nx did
[10:32] <EricCartman-iboo> hey! Mac OS X update cleared the bootloader. I've booted from the CD and ran `yabootconfig` it configured the bootloader but it only boots linux now. How can I make it like the installation CD does, i.e. with three choice linux, os x, cdrom
[10:32] <gnomefreak> echeese, what is the program you are trying to compile called?
[10:32] <Kits> hi
[10:32] <derek_djons> ilba7r, I could find the file-format but something is really wrong since I've installed Animatix. My notebook's cooler is now blowing 100%
[10:32] <nalioth> hikenboot: links2 allows you graphics w/o X
[10:33] <Java_the_Hutt> i am trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad for mp3 support. But it complaines about unmet dependencies. What can i do ?
[10:33] <derek_djons> ilba7r, It never blows, even if I am watchin DVD's ... so something is really wrong with the extra codecs
[10:33] <ilba7r> i do not have animatix here derek_djons
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> I'm looking for success/failure stories for installing Breezy using a WIRELESS network interface, specific to that aspect.  Anyone?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, sudo apt-get install <each dependency>
[10:34] <derek_djons> ilba7r, okay... but you do know what it is?
[10:34] <ilba7r> derek_djons, nope
[10:34] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: they are not installable it says
[10:34] <ilba7r> !animatix
[10:34] <ubotu> ilba7r: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:34] <ilba7r> lol
[10:34] <Kits> any help with installing ubuntu live disk I have a shuttle and its gone as far as 4294668-139000 checking if imageis intramfs
[10:34] <ilba7r> !info animatix
[10:35] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt,  look for the base libs in synaptic
[10:35] <derek_djons> ilba7r, It's some extra software. Cool things like wmf codecs and more of such stuff
[10:35] <derek_djons> ilba7r, It's some extra software. Cool things like wmf codecs and more of such stuff
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ilba7r, automatix?
[10:35] <echeese> gnomefreak, sudo apt-get -b source nx freenx
[10:35] <echeese> arg
[10:35] <echeese> gnomefreak, I mean
[10:35] <echeese> Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 5.0.0)
[10:35] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: using kubuntu, but those packages are absent
[10:35] <ilba7r> gnomefreak nope animatix
[10:35] <derek_djons> LOL... mixed up automatix with animatix :D
[10:35] <derek_djons> totally n00b
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ^^^se
[10:35] <gnomefreak> see
[10:36] <derek_djons> sorry my fault :D
[10:36] <ilba7r> derek_djons, lol
[10:36] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[10:36] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:36] <Kits> yes and me want to try ubuntu
[10:36] <hikenboot> gnomefreak: thanks! its a lot easier to understand!
[10:36] <gnomefreak> yw hikenboot
[10:36] <ilba7r> gnomefreak i have all the automatix packages installed before i heared of it
[10:36] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: one of them is libmad0
[10:36] <invitado> hola
[10:36] <derek_djons> ubotu, yes, I'm busy already deinstalling it :D
[10:36] <ubotu> derek_djons: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:36] <ilba7r> !es
[10:36] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:36] <gnomefreak> ok echeese do you already have the tar?
[10:36] <Java_the_Hutt> Can anyone help me for mp3 support ?
[10:36] <Noriega> !mp3
[10:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, are you on breezy?
[10:37] <invitado> gracias
[10:37] <echeese> gnomefreak, I think so
[10:37] <derek_djons> ubotu, explain what precise? :)
[10:37] <Java_the_Hutt> Noriega: in that page it says that i have to install gstreamer mad
[10:37] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: yes
[10:37] <ilba7r> derek_djons, ubotu is a bot
[10:37] <Kits> what is initramfs ??
[10:37] <teclis> hi, is it known bug, that kmail shows the last line twice in the sent message folder?
[10:37] <echeese> gnomefreak, Yeah, and I've extracted it
[10:37] <ilba7r> derek_djons, he is not human :)
[10:37] <gnomefreak> i have libmad in mine
[10:37] <Java_the_Hutt> Noriega: but i cant install that package
[10:37] <derek_djons> ilba7r, christ... :) lol
[10:37] <Noriega> oh :(
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, run apt-cache search libmad
[10:38] <derek_djons> ilba7r, how more n00b can this get :D
[10:38] <merly> timfrost - i am still having trouble. i tried a couple of settings - 24 bit 1024; 16 bit 800, and i still get gibberish on the screen (different gibberish tho)
[10:38] <derek_djons> I'm talking too bots now :D
[10:38] <gnomefreak> echeese, did you apt-get build-dep freenx?
[10:38] <ilba7r> derek_djons, we all were and most of us are still noob :)
[10:38] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: i have non ubuntu repos in my sources list does it matter
[10:38] <Kits> l8rs wil find some one somewhere else to help me
[10:38] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, please tell me you dont have debian?
[10:38] <ahsm> hi everyone
[10:38] <_null> How can I trigger a logout from a script?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> repos
[10:38] <ahsm> how do i open a file in terminal
[10:39] <ahsm> i want to open XF86Config-4
[10:39] <grayman_> ahsm, what file type?
[10:39] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: no, just KDE 3.5 thing i suppose
[10:39] <ahsm> what do i type to open it?
[10:39] <ilba7r> _null if you mean shutdown it is shutdown time -r to reboot -h to shutdown
[10:39] <Motoko-chan> Is there a newer kernel than 2.6.12-9-386 ?
[10:39] <grayman_> ahsm, try vim
[10:39] <derek_djons> ilba7r, I used IRC long time ago. I still know most of the command and behviour code, but some things fled my mind... also how to recognize a bot :D
[10:39] <ilba7r> _null, man shutdown
[10:39] <ahsm> thanks grayman_
[10:39] <_null> ilba7r, no i mean just logout ;)
[10:39] <echeese> gnomefreak, Yes
[10:39] <Kits> thanks guys for not helping
[10:39] <Motoko-chan> ilba7r, "halt" works too for shutdown
[10:39] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt,  can you paste your sources.list file to pastebin please
[10:39] <grayman_> ahsm, :q to quit
[10:40] <ilba7r> _null depend mainly on the window manager you use
[10:40] <ahsm> grayman_, thank you. i can edit my mouse settings from here right?
[10:40] <_null> ilba7r, metacity
[10:40] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: sure hang on
[10:40] <Knowerrors> Hey all, on Firefox 1.07 I keep getting "Document Contains No Data" on some websites, Im on dialup, so its probably due to my slow connection, is there any way to stop this timeout problem?
[10:40] <ilba7r> Motoko-chan, that is right too :)
[10:40] <Motoko-chan> heh
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone successfully done an install over a wireless connection?  (To reassure me that it might work.)
[10:40] <grayman_> ahsm, yeah i guess
[10:40] <_null> tonyyarusso, here
[10:40] <gnomefreak> ok echeese you extracted it and im assuming you got all the libs it needs once extracted you should beable to cd to the extracted file and run ./configure or ./configure --help
[10:40] <Motoko-chan> All I need is someone to fix the driver for the vortex network card.
[10:40] <grayman_> ahsm, if you need quick reference using vim just ask
[10:41] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, one with native support and one with ndiswrapper
[10:41] <ahsm> grayman_, ok thanks :)
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> _null, blue-frog: Thanks.  (I do know that the card works out of the box after install, btw.)
[10:41] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, not all of them
[10:41] <ahsm> guys
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, How many have you tried?
[10:42] <ilba7r> tonnyarusoo i am just to afraid of disconnection while install that is why never tried it
[10:42] <ahsm> for protocol it says "ImPS/2"
[10:42] <ahsm> i have a wireless optical usb mouse
[10:42] <ahsm> should i put ExplorerPS/2?
[10:42] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: here it is : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6688
[10:42] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, 3 1 native, 1 ndiswrapper 1 don't work at all
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, Ah.  Well, I guess that's not so bad really.
[10:44] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, sry 1 don't work at all not true.. should have added so far
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, Still trying on that one right now?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, at the end of lines 20 and 21 and 36 and 37 add a space and the word multiverse than apt-get update
[10:44] <blue-frog> tonyyarusso, no i have to give it an eye someday. have other things to do
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> blue-frog, I see.
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> My Recent Documents list isn't loading, anyone know why?
[10:46] <ahsm> grayman_, i edited, how do i save it?
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> It finally loaded after I opened one of the documents that should have been on it through my Home folder.
[10:47] <grayman_> ahsm esc to exit edit mode and then :w
[10:47] <grayman_> ahsm :wq to save and exit
[10:47] <errordeveloper> hi ppl
[10:47] <psycose> grayman_, :x is the same ;-)
[10:48] <errordeveloper> where do  u usualy get skype for ubuntu?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Java_the_Hutt about Seveas
[10:48] <grayman_> PsyberOne, whatever :P
[10:48] <grayman_> psycose, whatever
[10:48] <ahsm> grayman_, it says the file is read only
[10:48] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: brought some extra packages
[10:48] <spacey_ki> ubotu tell spacey_ki about Seveas
[10:48] <grayman_> ahsm, you need to open it using sudo
[10:48] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: but still same
[10:48] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, the message ubotu sent you add the .deb.all repo to your list also
[10:49] <pvh> Hello, I'm having trouble building a package which requires wxWidgets 2.6.1.
[10:49] <psycose> ahsm, be carfull if it's an ubuntu system file .. you should not edit it ...
[10:49] <ahsm> grayman_, i dont know my password, installtion never asked me :(
[10:49] <derek_djons> quit
[10:49] <grayman_> ahsm, how did you log then?
[10:49] <ahsm> with my user account
[10:49] <grayman_> ahsm, its the same password that you use now
[10:49] <ahsm> oh
[10:49] <ahsm> :)
[10:49] <ahsm> forgive me, im a complete noob with linux
[10:49] <pvh> I installed libwxgtk2.6, but I couldn't find libwxbase2.6 to correspond to it... Have those packages merged?
[10:50] <grayman_> ahsm, everyone at some point
[10:50] <grayman_> ahsm, normal user dont have a premission to write global conf files
[10:50] <errordeveloper> guys! who is using skype??
[10:50] <grayman_> ahsm, so use sudo to do that
[10:50] <ilba7r> errordeveloper,
[10:50] <ahsm> grayman_, ok so i open terminal, and type sudo?
[10:51] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: isn't it strange that i dont have some packages
[10:51] <errordeveloper> ilba7r>~ where did u get the package?
[10:51] <grayman_> ahsm, sudo vim file
[10:51] <psycose> ahsm, what file to you want to modify ?
[10:51] <ilba7r> !sevas
[10:51] <ubotu> ilba7r: Not a clue
[10:51] <ilba7r> !seveas
[10:51] <ubotu> I heard seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:51] <ilba7r> there is where i got it
[10:51] <psycose> errordeveloper, me
[10:51] <ahsm> psycose, X86Config-4 for my mouse settings
[10:51] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: can i ask you to post your sources, may be it is because of mirrorrs
[10:52] <psycose> ahsm, oh ok good luck ;-)
[10:52] <bunghole> how does one pronounse unbuntu
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt,  yes give me a sec
[10:52] <ahsm> psycose, thanks :) i hope it works
[10:52] <bunghole> pronouce*
[10:52] <ColonelPanique> ooh bun too ?
[10:52] <ColonelPanique> or ooh boon too ?  something like that
[10:52] <bunghole> bun as in bread bun or like bon boon kinda
[10:52] <jenda> bunghole: oo-boon-to
[10:52] <bunghole> ahh oh ok
[10:53] <qwef> my volume worked great and then i rebooted and now it's gone
[10:53] <Dariuss> *newbie needs help with install, anyone available?
[10:53] <qwef> apparently alsaconf doesn't work in ubuntu
[10:53] <qwef> any suggestions on how i can troubleshoot my sound?
[10:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> alsamixer
[10:53] <bunghole> qwef, modprobe alsa, in case it isn't loaded, and install alsamixergui
[10:53] <JDahl> Dariuss, you'll get more help if you ask specific questions
[10:53] <topyli> !anyone
[10:53] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:53] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6381 there you go :)
[10:53] <ahsm> ok i edited file
[10:53] <ahsm> brb
[10:54] <bunghole> lol Java_the_Hutt
[10:54] <qwef> module alsa not found it says
[10:54] <errordeveloper> ilba7r>~ i mean.. i dont need it , i need to sovle my brothers problem , it asks him for libdc++ ..
[10:54] <bunghole> thats funny
[10:54] <The_Cr0w87> boni boni
[10:54] <The_Cr0w87> ndo sto?
[10:54] <ilba7r> errordeveloper, did he install from source
[10:54] <oskar_> Does anyone in here know how to get dual displays with ubuntu?
[10:54] <The_Cr0w87> ...
[10:54] <The_Cr0w87> capirai...
[10:54] <The_Cr0w87> in inglese....
[10:54] <Dariuss> is it possible to turn a usb flash drive into a ubuntu install boot disk?
[10:54] <trappist> Dariuss: not yet
[10:54] <errordeveloper> ilba7r>~ obviously he didnt
[10:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Dariuss about install
[10:55] <merly> i still see only snow or junk when i do startx  - - lspci says the video device is intel 82810. i do not know how to setup x.org
[10:55] <gnomefreak> oops nb
[10:55] <gnomefreak> nm
[10:55] <errordeveloper> ilba7r>~ ... ok ill try to explain him how to it, i might find where the libdc is ..
[10:55] <ilba7r> errordeveloper, seveas reops has the deb file easier to install do not know really which package have libdc++ but let me check
[10:55] <trappist> merly: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:55] <derek_djons> ilba7r, I've deinstallad automatix and everything is fine now :) thnx for your time and input :)
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Dariuss, forget that message
[10:55] <merly> trappist - i have done that i don't know the right settings
[10:55] <topyli> errordeveloper: is he installing valknut from source?
[10:55] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: thanks there are lots of non ubuntu repos here, are they all stable ?
[10:55] <merly> trappist - i tried a few times, just get different snow
[10:55] <ilba7r> derek_djons, great it went well with you :)
[10:56] <Dariuss> hmmm...would i be better off trying to install over lan?
[10:56] <errordeveloper> topyli>~ no, i hardly explained how to unpack a statick binary
[10:56] <qwef> i have all my volumes unmuted on alsamixer and modprobe can not find alsa
[10:56] <IdleOne> !javadebs
[10:56] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[10:56] <StarKruzr> has anyone here been successful using netinstall?
[10:56] <StarKruzr> via PXE?
[10:57] <errordeveloper> topyli>~ i would go via ssh, but proxy is on the way!
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, ok this is what you should do ill have bot send you a link fill out the page and it will give you a sources list just delete oyours and add the new ones
[10:57] <topyli> errordeveloper: well, static binaries should not really depend on much of anything
[10:57] <gnomefreak> !tell Java_the_Hutt about easysource
[10:57] <topyli> errordeveloper: searching for libdc shows a few packages though, so he may want to try installing them
[10:57] <Java_the_Hutt> gnomefreak: i was just about to use yours
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, that will give you 955 of my list
[10:58] <errordeveloper> topyli>~ .. i havent got any libdc++ at all , and the same  tarbal works alright on my slackware box
[10:58] <gnomefreak> 95%*
[10:58] <StarKruzr> I followed the directions on the Wiki about installing via a netboot image to the letter and right before it starts pulling down packages after it reboots the system, it says "one more more packages could not be obtained" or something, and kicks me out to a login prompt without having even installed ubuntu-base completely.  this has happened 5 times now.  what am I doing wrong?
[10:58] <ahsm> ok im back
[10:58] <gnomefreak> Java_the_Hutt, im missing Seveas repo in my list
[10:58] <qwef> what is the equilvalent ot alsaconf
[10:58] <ahsm> nice, now my mouse works properlly, but not because i edited that file
[10:58] <topyli> errordeveloper: yes true, i only got those results searching for libdc, not libdc++
[10:58] <psycose> merly does dmesg command print out any interesting info after X failed ?
[10:59] <ilba7r> errordeveloper, could not find the lib sorry
[10:59] <SWAT> If I want to run a script (like to start/load something at system startup that uses IPtables) can/must I put that in /etc/rc5.d/  ?
[10:59] <errordeveloper> ilba7r>~ no worries, thanx any way
[10:59] <ahsm> brb
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> Can I use the dpkg --get-selections / --set-selections capability for only some packages?  For instance, creating a file of a few packages you'd like to recommend to a friend, and being able to e-mail them that file, and then have them use it to easily install anything you had suggested?
[11:00] <merly> psycose - i get a lot of atckb.c errors
[11:00] <merly> psycose - nothing looks like video to me
[11:00] <StarKruzr> (incidentally, doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop after it kicks me out does not fix the problem, because X is broken after doing that)
[11:00] <topyli> errordeveloper: searching for libdc++, i get some results too. they're from universe
[11:01] <errordeveloper> topyli>~ .. thanxz, i'll try again later on :))
[11:01] <Sonderblade> how do you upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:01] <hikenboot> does anyone have a solution to this problem The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. ubuntu
[11:02] <psycose> merly, try adding:      Option      "NoInt10"           to the device section, well i don't know if it will help but may be ;-)
[11:02] <Sonderblade> hikenboot: remove it from xorg.conf
[11:02] <psycose> merly,  in your X config file ...
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> What happens if you do a Breezy install without an internet connection?  Can everything be taken care of through an apt-get upgrade later when you do have one, or will something be missed?
[11:03] <errordeveloper> hikenboot>~ ..)) i know
[11:03] <mhs> hello
[11:03] <topyli> tonyyarusso: create a metapackage called tonys-recommendations or something that depends on your favorites
[11:03] <mhs0> any1 here plays quake3 :P
[11:03] <echeese> :/
[11:04] <echeese> Anyone had success with PSP on ubuntu?
[11:04] <hikenboot> also getting the same for a CID directory and /x-ttcidfont-conf should i remove them as well
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> topyli, How would I do that?  (Still relatively new to a lot of these concepts.)
[11:04] <echeese> I write files to the drive
[11:04] <echeese> And they don't show up
[11:04] <errordeveloper> to get Cyrilic characters alright - add the path to /etc/font.conf ..or something like that
[11:04] <topyli> tonyyarusso: i have no idea. :) Seveas, how did you create your metapackages?
[11:04] <merly> psycose - i went throguh dpkg-reconfigure and took int10 off. same result, snow
[11:04] <nmsa> someone using ubuntu as print server? I cant find the printer in Xp
[11:04] <hikenboot> i am trying to look for a root cause why my working x wouldnt start after installing a xen kernel even on the old one
[11:05] <nmsa> else, from Ubuntu how do you print photos?
[11:05] <topyli> tonyyarusso: i might do the same thing myself :)
[11:05] <StarKruzr> so nobody has any idea why my netboot-from-Windows install is exploding for no discernable reason?
[11:05] <jenda> Is there a place I can check for suggestions of what to do on a newly installed system?
[11:05] <Hawk|--> mhh
[11:05] <Hawk|--> mist wlan router
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> topyli, It would be a handy thing.  I'm guessing not very difficult either, if someone here can tell us how it works.
[11:06] <nmsa> jenda: ubuntuguide.org
[11:06] <timfrost> nmsa, Yes.  You have to change cupsd.copnf, so that it listens on the network (default is to only listen on 127.0.0.1 loopback interface)
[11:06] <psycose> merly, do you know if the live CD run X well ?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> !tell jenda about ubuntuguide
[11:06] <kcantin> list
[11:06] <Hobbsee> !tell nmsa  about ubuntuguide
[11:06] <jenda> nmsa: I was thinking a little less basic :)
[11:06] <nmsa> timfrost: I have it on 192.168.0.*
[11:06] <djm62> jenda: you can do anything...try searching packages for any interests...you can discover cool stuff
[11:06] <kcantin> hello
[11:06] <lemur> so, I accidentally installed the amd64 version on a xeon system.  It appears to be working, but should I be worried?
[11:07] <kcantin> hello
[11:07] <errordeveloper> kcantin>~ hi
[11:07] <errordeveloper> whats up?
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> !metapackage
[11:07] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[11:07] <kcantin> can anyone help me connect to my windows newtork?
[11:07] <topyli> tonyyarusso: i might want to make a metapackage for my ubuntu-using colleagues at work, so they would have all they need
[11:07] <errordeveloper> kcantin>~ smb
[11:07] <errordeveloper> samba
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> topyli, Right.
[11:07] <kcantin> I instaled it but, now I get errors
[11:08] <qwef> i recently put a joystick in to my usb device should this conflict with alsa?
[11:08] <MorphO> hi all does anyone speak french here
[11:09] <IdleOne> moritz,  oui
[11:09] <IdleOne> oops
[11:09] <IdleOne> MorphO,  oui
[11:09] <kcantin> It says that I do not have the permissions to access windows netowrk
[11:09] <MorphO> salut idleone
[11:09] <IdleOne> salut
[11:09] <MorphO> merci pour ta reaction
[11:09] <IdleOne> pas de probleme
[11:09] <MorphO> j'ai besoin d'information
[11:09] <C-O-L-T> I use both KDE and GNOME with ubuntu, how can I make to play any audio with rythmbox, I can play mp3, everything with amarok but I can not play anything with rythmbox.
[11:09] <C-O-L-T> opinion
[11:09] <MorphO> j'ai fais quelque recherche mais je ne suis pas sur
[11:09] <IdleOne> j'vais asseyaer
[11:10] <MorphO> je voudrais installer la nouvelle version de amsn
[11:10] <Malachi> How can I get GDesklets to start up when I boot Linux?
[11:10] <djm62> !fr
[11:10] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:10] <ilba7r> C-O-L-T, do you have totem-xine installed what type of codec you have the freeformats or wincodec
[11:10] <topyli> C-O-L-T: install gstreamer0.8-mad to get mp3 for rhythmbox
[11:10] <MorphO> celle sur le miroir de apt n'est pas la dernire version
[11:10] <alexander_> Hi! I have just installed ubuntu(gnome, and first time i ever have tried linux), and have a small problem.... I accedently shoose wrong reselution in the instalation, and know I wanna change it from 1024x768 to 1280x1024. I Have tried to serch on google but didn't find anyting. btw sry for my bad english (I'm from Finland (so I speak swedish) and I'm oly 15)
[11:10] <MorphO> j'ai donc tlcharger les source
[11:10] <C-O-L-T> rlibra: yes totem works fine with xine
[11:10] <MorphO> cependant je voudrais crer un paquer
[11:10] <MorphO> paquet
[11:11] <IdleOne> hmmmmmmm
[11:11] <C-O-L-T> topyli: ok how can i do that from synaptic?
[11:11] <ilba7r> Malachi, gdesklets is run from the startup script. so depend what are you using gnome, kde fluxbox?
[11:11] <MorphO> pour ensuite l'installer et dsinstaller sans trop mettre la merde
[11:11] <IdleOne> can anybody tell MorphO  how to install from source file?
[11:11] <Malachi> gnome.
[11:11] <djm62> il y a un fichier "debian"?
[11:11] <topyli> C-O-L-T: search for gstreamer0.8-mad and click to install :)
[11:11] <MorphO> j'aime mon systeme le plus clean que possible
[11:11] <Malachi> ilba7r, I thought this was the ubuntu channel, so I assumed gnome....
[11:11] <timfrost> alexander_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  Add 1280x1024 to the mode list
[11:11] <kcantin> can anyone assist me in connecting to my windows network?
[11:11] <kcantin> I already installed samba
[11:11] <ilba7r> Malachi, system>prefrences>session>startup programs and add gdesklets
[11:12] <MorphO> connais tu une rfrence quelque pars ou je pourrais avoir l'information
[11:12] <Malachi> Okay.
[11:12] <ilba7r> or you can right click on the panel and add it
[11:12] <kcantin> I believe  I installed samba anyway
[11:12] <ilba7r> !fr
[11:12] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:12] <C-O-L-T> topyli: I have all the gstreamer installed
[11:12] <skeggia> nessuno mi s dire come si installa skype?
[11:12] <MorphO> merci
[11:12] <Malachi> ilba7r, what about the order?
[11:13] <IdleOne> MorphO,  je crois que #ubuntu-fr va pouvoir t'aider mieux
[11:13] <Zugwrack> Hey everyone
[11:13] <ilba7r> Malachi, the default is ok 50
[11:13] <djm62> c'est vrai
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> !createmetapackage
[11:13] <ubotu> Wish i knew, tonyyarusso
[11:13] <topyli> C-O-L-T: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[11:13] <kcantin> I can see the othe computer in networking but, it says that I do not have permissions to access the windows network
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> !createpackage
[11:13] <ubotu> Wish i knew, tonyyarusso
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> !makepackage
[11:13] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:14] <C-O-L-T> topyli: I use Kubuntu but I have GNOME too, in Kubuntu KDE is enabled and everything works fine
[11:14] <Zugwrack> Anyone here familiar with running Ubuntu under VMWare?
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> Hrm, does someone know what I'm trying to ubotu for?
[11:14] <C-O-L-T> topyli: I have to make here too
[11:14] <kcantin> no, universe and multi-supository?
[11:14] <psycose> MorphO, sur le site http://amsn.sourceforge.net/ tu peux telecharge le package debian de amsn et puis tu l'install avec $ sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
[11:14] <ilba7r> tonyyarusso, type /msg ubotu and then play till you find the command you need
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r, Am trying that now, running out of ideas soon though.
[11:15] <ilba7r> tonyyarusso, try the forums
[11:15] <djm62> tonyyarusso: :) every search thing becomes a verb now? I'm not sure how you'd create a metapackage...
[11:15] <Zugwrack> !FreeFormats
[11:15] <ubotu> freeformats is probably There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[11:15] <topyli> C-O-L-T: if gstreamer0.8-mad doesn't seem to be available in synaptic, then you probably don't have all the needed repositories. enable them
[11:15] <DDTa> hi
[11:16] <jenda> hello DDTa
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> topyli: I have everything enabled. If I use amarok in GNOME too I can play eevry media
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> topyli: what should I do
[11:17] <Eugman> !terminal
[11:17] <Zugwrack> anyone have information on how to mount the linux .iso under VMWare to let me install the vmware-tools additions?
[11:17] <topyli> C-O-L-T: could you paste your sources.list to the pastebin?
[11:17] <kcantin> I don't want to sound redundant here but, can anyone possibly help me connect to my windows netowrk?
[11:17] <Eugman> !command line
[11:17] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Eugman
[11:17] <Eugman> !command
[11:17] <ubotu> Eugman: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:18] <C-O-L-T> topyli: I am a new linux user. I use linux for 3 months. :) how can i do that?
[11:18] <Eugman> !commandline
[11:18] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Eugman
[11:18] <psycose> Zugwrack, have you tried the new free vmware player ?
[11:18] <Eugman> !commands
[11:18] <ubotu> commands is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[11:18] <DDTa> jenda do you know ethical software?
[11:18] <topyli> tonyyarusso: please see http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ and look especially at chapter 4
[11:18] <ranE_> hello.. Which ubuntu thing should I download?
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> topyli, Thanks.
[11:18] <jenda> DDTa: not sure (i.e., probably not) What do you mean?
[11:18] <Eugman> probably the i368 one
[11:18] <ranE_> sure?
[11:18] <Eugman> ranE
[11:18] <Zugwrack> Yes...but I have the full version now..
[11:19] <C-O-L-T> topyli: I have opened the pastebin, how I paste my sources list
[11:19] <DDTa> jenda www.ethicalsoftware.org there is a license...
[11:19] <Stork> problems:
[11:19] <Stork> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:19] <Stork> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:19] <Eugman> Well do you have a mac or 64 hardware running? If not I'd say yes.
[11:19] <Zugwrack> psycose: The player works fine though too!
[11:19] <Eugman> Do you know how to burn an iso rane?
[11:19] <ilba7r> strok stick sudo infront of your apt-get command and close synaptic if it is opened
[11:20] <topyli> C-O-L-T: open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, and select everything. press copy. paste into the window in your browser
[11:20] <Zugwrack> The image provided cannot really do all the updates..at least they failed when I tried...however now using the full VMWare it installed and upgraded ok
[11:20] <Stork> good point
[11:20] <topyli> !pastebin
[11:20] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> How do I view the long description of a package?
[11:20] <topyli> hrm. where is seveas' nice pastebin script?
[11:20] <timfrost> Zugwrack, the VM menu has option "Install VMWare tools".  Is that what you want?
[11:21] <jenda> DDTa: What's the difference between that and GPL? The four basic freedoms are equal.
[11:21] <C-O-L-T> topyli: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6693
[11:22] <C-O-L-T> topyli: help me please
[11:22] <SenayB0x0r> how do i mount/format/add another drive to my system in ubuntu
[11:22] <djm62> tonyyarusso: apt-cache show packagenameyouwant
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> djm62, Thanks.
[11:23] <SenayB0x0r> anyone?
[11:23] <djm62> SenayB0x0r: a hot-pluggable one?
[11:23] <topyli> C-O-L-T: strange. you have universe enabled, and my gstreamer0.8-mad packages seems to come from universe
[11:23] <topyli> i'm stunned
[11:24] <SenayB0x0r> nah, just a regular ata100 hd
[11:24] <SenayB0x0r> ide
[11:24] <C-O-L-T> topyli: what to do than
[11:24] <Zugwrack> timfrost: Well that is the start from the vmware website...I have to start that and then go into the console in Ubuntu and mount the .iso image for linux...then I can copy the tarball to my /home dir and proceed to install them...
[11:24] <C-O-L-T> topyli: there are no problems with alsa sytem or oss
[11:24] <C-O-L-T> or so on
[11:25] <C-O-L-T> topyli: in kde alsa works fine
[11:25] <gnomefreak> topyli, what about Seveas repo for gstreamer?
[11:25] <topyli> C-O-L-T: does your rhythmbox play other files fine? like oggs?
[11:25] <SenayB0x0r> djm62, is there a command or gui way to format and mount the HD
[11:25] <C-O-L-T> topyli: but here when i want to test the pipeline i can get any sound
[11:25] <topyli> gnomefreak: what about it? :)
[11:25] <lowman62> hey gnomefreak
[11:25] <C-O-L-T> topyli: i will see
[11:25] <Vincent> Hi, I can connect to irc, but only to irc (no firefox, no http, nothing, no apt-get update...) has someone a clue about this ?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> grab gstreamer from there?
[11:26] <Zugwrack> Is there perhaps a way to mount the .iso using the mount command? Using fstype?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> if multi isnt installing it?
[11:26] <djm62> SenayB0x0r: ummm. there is.  what position is it (master slave first second)?
[11:26] <topyli> gnomefreak: what has Seveas done to gst?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> hi lowman62
[11:26] <SenayB0x0r> slave
[11:26] <lowman62> Vincent I would check iptables to see if you have locked up some ports that are messing you up
[11:26] <skeggia> nessuno parla un p di italiano?
[11:26] <lowman62> howsit going gnomefreak
[11:27] <SenayB0x0r> djm62, slave, well CS, but one is master so yeh, slave
[11:27] <Vincent> lowman62: I did not used iptables recently
[11:27] <djm62> SenayB0x0r: same cable as primary master, or secondary?
[11:27] <bueller> hiya...newb gnu question
[11:27] <ilba7r> !it
[11:27] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:27] <skeggia> thx
[11:27] <bueller> or three
[11:27] <C-O-L-T> topyli: i can play audio with it. But I have w32codecs, enabled universe, multiuniverse
[11:27] <gnomefreak> topyli, nothing but its a multi-media repo im thinking since multi isnt installing it maybe his might
[11:28] <C-O-L-T> topyli: so what to do than
[11:28] <lowman62> Vincent: although for no certainty am i sure of this...i believe iptables installs by default and you can configure if with firestarter...have you configied around with that?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ok and you lowman62
[11:28] <SenayB0x0r> same cable as master
[11:28] <lowman62> am good..am glad it is friday :)
[11:28] <AstralJava> Hey all, I tried this a bit earlier, but just in case someone who has the knowledge turned up after the first attempt, I'll go again: Does anyone have a clue why I can't load smsc-ircc2 module even when it seems to be the correct module for the hardware in my laptop?
[11:28] <SenayB0x0r> djm62, yeh, same cable as master
[11:28] <gnomefreak> i wish it was monday :(
[11:28] <djm62> SenayB0x0r: that would be /dev/hdb
[11:28] <lowman62> how come gnomefreak?
[11:28] <topyli> C-O-L-T: the problem is that rhythmbox uses gstreamer for a backend. your w32codecs and such won't help there. you need gstreamer0.8-mad very urgently :)
[11:28] <djm62> SenayB0x0r: and I *think* gparted will do the job
[11:29] <C-O-L-T> topyli: where and how can i install it
[11:29] <gnomefreak> school starts :))
[11:29] <berto-> hi everyone.  is there an environment variable or configuration file that I can use to specify multiple magic files; i want to keep my own magic file instead of adding to the system one.
[11:29] <kcantin> Sorry I had stepped away
[11:29] <lowman62> gnomefreak: Oh your looking forward to school huh? for your kids or you???
[11:30] <kcantin> anyone have experience connecting to a windws network?
[11:30] <kcantin> I already have sabma installed...I thinmk
[11:30] <lowman62> kcantin: using samba?
[11:30] <kcantin> yes, I guess
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ah i got gstreamer0.8-mad from cipherfunk repo
[11:30] <cdubya> kcantin, yep
[11:30] <kcantin> what are my other options?
[11:30] <ilba7r> C-O-L-T, try removing ro. from your source file. The mirror might not have everything you want
[11:30] <gnomefreak> lowman62, for me
[11:30] <topyli> C-O-L-T: you can get the package from here for example: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gst-plugins0.8/
[11:31] <gnomefreak> i love school :)
[11:31] <lowman62> kcantin: have your setup a workgroup and all that ??
[11:31] <topyli> C-O-L-T: but i seriously don't understand why it doesn't show up in your synaptic. try pressing the "reload" button and search again please
[11:31] <ilba7r> C-O-L-T, use deb http"//archive.ubuntu.com directly
[11:31] <lowman62> lowman62 = lowman1962 ...I can't remember school gnomefreak LOL
[11:32] <cdubya> heh
[11:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:32] <cdubya> I wish I was out.
[11:32] <cdubya> I'd much rather work
[11:32] <topyli> C-O-L-T: ilba7r might have an idea there, it may be that your local mirror is out of sync
[11:32] <lowman62> cdubya: exacry how i felt when i was in school...wish i had of stuck it out tho ;)
[11:32] <C-O-L-T> topyli: i am reloading synaptic now
[11:33] <cdubya> lowman62, yeah, me too, that's why I'm finishing up at 35.......
[11:33] <Stork> how can i install wine on a 64-bit architecture?
[11:33] <C-O-L-T> topyli: lets see what happens
[11:33] <lowman62> gnomefreak: good for you ...keep on keepin on..will definitely pay off
[11:33] <gnomefreak> !wine
[11:34] <gnomefreak> lowman62, thats what i figured too
[11:34] <cdubya> kcantin, have you done what lowman62 asked you?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Stork about wine
[11:34] <topyli> gnomefreak: brain hacking
[11:34] <kcantin> I believe so
[11:34] <lowman62> ya cdubya: I ended up going back in my 30's too..got a crummy degree in music...broke my hands snowboarding and now can't play guitar anymore LOL...all well
[11:34] <skeggia> sorry puoi ridirmi l'indirizzo per un server in italiano?
[11:34] <kcantin> I have a home network and mshome
[11:34] <cdubya> ouch.....:)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !it
[11:35] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:35] <C-O-L-T> topyli: it downloads a lot of things with reloading synaptic
[11:35] <lowman62> cdubya: I can still snowboard though LOL although not where I live now
[11:35] <topyli> C-O-L-T: good
[11:35] <cdubya> lowman62, I'm getting it in CIS, though I suspect I'm going to drive anywhere I want to get a good job
[11:35] <cdubya> lowman62, heh
[11:35] <kcantin> can you email to : kcantin@sbcglobal.net?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> later all
[11:36] <kcantin> I just get a permision denied when I try accessing the windows network
[11:36] <kcantin> I can see the client machine though
[11:36] <lowman62> cdubya: I work from home as a contract programmer ;)
[11:36] <cdubya> kcantin, did you do smbpasswd?
[11:36] <C-O-L-T> topyli: i have found now in adept gstreamer mad
[11:36] <kcantin> I think so
[11:36] <cdubya> lowman62, sweet, what language(s)?
[11:36] <lowman62> can chat and work at the same time...what a life
[11:36] <kcantin> let me try again
[11:36] <topyli> C-O-L-T: ok, you are in business then :)
[11:36] <cdubya> lowman62, that's what I'd like to end up doing....:(
[11:37] <bueller> how do you log into file manager as sudo?
[11:37] <cdubya> lowman62, but I don't know it'll happen where I live....very small town
[11:37] <lowman62> cdubya: mostly c but am know to use python, java and any other that a prospective client is wanting to be used
[11:37] <C-O-L-T> topyli: i have installed it
[11:37] <bueller> i have 9 xorg.conf files
[11:37] <C-O-L-T> topyli: now i should try it
[11:37] <AMCDeathKnight> The proper Ubuntu has been removed from grub. Im in the recovery one atm. This is my menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/494127 Cans omeone help me put the normal Ubuntu back to Grub so i can boot into it plwease
[11:37] <cdubya> lowman62, kewl. love c. Java and I have no relationship whatsoever since we met.
[11:37] <bueller> and i need to delete some so I can get my screen out of 640-480
[11:37] <topyli> lowman62: i study online work, my data comes largely from irc and mailing lists. life is good :)
[11:38] <bueller> any ideas...or do i have invisible font
[11:38] <lowman62> cdubya: I believe java is still in its infancy stage and is not as useful as they claim it to be...but i so do enjoy their version numbering LOL
[11:38] <cdubya> heh
[11:38] <cdubya> yeah
[11:38] <C-O-L-T> topyli: what to do, I tried to play mp3 with rythmbox but it has written to me This is not an audio stream
[11:38] <cdubya> I just found it to be a bit clunky
[11:38] <cdubya> but I'm still learning....
[11:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: The only xorg.conf that matters is the one called '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' - any others are ignored.
[11:39] <bxburnett> i can't get my wi-fi or bluetooth mouse to function, drivers?
[11:39] <topyli> C-O-L-T: and this happens with any mp3 file? (just checking it's not the file's fault)
[11:39] <bueller> is it possible to delete the old ones in file manager
[11:39] <AMCDeathKnight> The proper Ubuntu has been removed from grub. Im in the recovery one atm. This is my menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/494127 Cans someone help me put the normal Ubuntu back to Grub so i can boot into it please
[11:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: Yeah.
[11:39] <lowman62> cdubya: clunky and flakey...but if that is what the customer wants (clunky and flakey) I  don't mind...at least i don't have to think about pointers and such then LOL
[11:39] <C-O-L-T> topyli: this happens with every mp3 file
[11:39] <cdubya> heh....yeah, no pointers, right....? ;)
[11:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: But it's even easier to just do 'sudo rm /path/to/unusedxorg.conf'
[11:40] <cdubya> REFERENCE VARIABLES == POINTERS.....
[11:40] <cdubya> heh
[11:40] <Mackie-> will i have wifi capabilities with ubuntu???
[11:40] <topyli> C-O-L-T: this is too strange for me. anyone else?
[11:40] <ranE_> what's the difference between those ISO files?
[11:40] <Mackie-> help!
[11:40] <cdubya> at least they don't call them that
[11:40] <bueller> also i did the fixvideoresolution steps in the wiki resolution still way to low
[11:40] <lowman62> cdubya: have you ever looked at the java api...it is a hunormous mess...you need to be a philadelphia lawyer to read it
[11:40] <prxq> I am getting errors from the ubuntu installer. It allegedly writes it to /target/var/log/etc. but there is no such dir. The log dir isn't there to begin with. Any ideas?
[11:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: Can you paste your current xorg.conf file to the pastebin?
[11:41] <AMCDeathKnight> The proper Ubuntu has been removed from grub. Im in the recovery one atm. This is my menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/494127 Cans someone help me put the normal Ubuntu back to Grub so i can boot into it please
[11:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:41] <cdubya> lowman62, pretty much, which is EXACTLY why Java and I have no relationship. I find C to be so much easier to follow and use
[11:41] <prxq> the errors are "cannot download zlib".  for instance. What might be the problem?
[11:41] <prxq> i hoped to get more info from the log file but ...
[11:41] <C-O-L-T> topyli: ??????????
[11:41] <lowman62> cdubya: true that is why I stick with it...was my first language and the only one that still makes sense to me
[11:41] <cdubya> lowman62, hadn't ever touched C++ before this last semester, but taken C and Adv C before....so I entered Adv C++ without the prereq and nailed the class....
[11:42] <cdubya> lowman62, pretty much
[11:42] <topyli> C-O-L-T: i seriously don't know. sorry :(
[11:42] <ilba7r> AMCDeathKnight, depends on what kernel you have yo can check it under /boot directory
[11:42] <C-O-L-T> topyli: ok
[11:42] <emily> While installing the screen went black and froze up, there was a cursor, but no keyboard response or anything.  I reboot and then when X starts it does it again, any idea how to fix this?
[11:42] <topyli> C-O-L-T: as a workaround, use another player :)
[11:42] <jhenn> does dapper have its own channel?
[11:42] <echeese> What can I use to play it, xm, mod and s3m?
[11:42] <_null> Why would my GDM not restart when I logout?
[11:42] <cdubya> lowman62, figger they really can't give me too much grief since I passed the Adv C++ with flying colors....
[11:42] <C-O-L-T> topyli: i wanted rythmbox, i can use amarok instead
[11:42] <lowman62> cdubya: I played with c++ but am no fan...i still can do what it can do in c
[11:42] <AMCDeathKnight> 2.6.12-10-686
[11:42] <Zugwrack> I am going through the restricted installs...specifically for mplayer-flash....it errors out??
[11:42] <bueller> Pumper yeah i will paste there...
[11:43] <topyli> C-O-L-T: yeah, i love rhythmbox myself
[11:43] <michael> so, what's a link to any descent program for working with airport extreme base stations?
[11:43] <cdubya> lowman62, I like some of the stuff in C++, but C is still very close to my heart.....:)
[11:43] <Zugwrack> Oops..flashplayer-mozilla
[11:43] <C-O-L-T> topyli: why i can not use it :(
[11:43] <Stork> hi, what do i need to do to partition my computer? i want to split my 160gb hdd into two
[11:43] <lowman62> cdubya: that is good...learn as many as you can...and then they will lock you in a dark closet and keep you working for ever LOL...you don't mind never seeing the sun again do ya? LOL
[11:43] <cdubya> heh
[11:43] <cdubya> yeah, my wife already loves that....
[11:43] <prxq> it succeeds setting up eth0, and the router is working. So what might be the problem?
[11:44] <Stork> anyone?
[11:44] <lowman62> ya mine too...i get are you done yet it is 6 in the morning LOL
[11:44] <topyli> AMCDeathKnight: looks like your grub is starting the default and recovery options from different partitions of your hard disk, the other is 0,1 and the other is 0,2
[11:44] <Stork> hi, what do i need to do to partition my computer? i want to split my 160gb hdd into two
[11:44] <AMCDeathKnight> So how do I fix it?
[11:44] <bueller> anyone have a link to  pastebin
[11:44] <lowman62> have stayed up 9 days in a row once to finish a job
[11:44] <Stork> lowman62, bs, you'd die
[11:44] <topyli> AMCDeathKnight: where does your ubuntu installation really live?
[11:44] <tenshu> hi all
[11:45] <AMCDeathKnight> Umm lol
[11:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:45] <Zugwrack> bueller..do a !pastebin
[11:45] <lowman62> Stork: I am serious I have ..lived off coffee and cigies
[11:45] <cdubya> lowman62, heh
[11:45] <AMCDeathKnight> hda3
[11:45] <prxq> Stork: fdisk
[11:45] <bueller> ty
[11:45] <Stork> lowman62, right, and you're talking to us from behind the grave
[11:45] <Stork> prxq, what commands do i need to use?
[11:45] <ilba7r> AMCDeathKnight, where is you linux partition
[11:45] <dukebody> somebody knows how to disconnect users from my own ftp server?
[11:45] <topyli> AMCDeathKnight: ok, that's 0,2 in grub language. perhaps you have misedited the menu.lst
[11:46] <cdubya> kcantin, you get it to work?
[11:46] <lowman62> Stork: and your being nasty to me why? because you are at home safe behind your hp computer? please...try again...and this time flush
[11:46] <Stork> dukebody, i would have thought that would depend on the server
[11:46] <AMCDeathKnight> But the Ubuntu Recovery is 0,2?
[11:46] <prxq> Stork: m to begin with.
[11:46] <bueller> okay i pasted there
[11:46] <prxq> p is helpfull
[11:46] <Stork> lowman62, don't be stupid, who has an hp computer?
[11:46] <C-O-L-T> amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????
[11:46] <C-O-L-T>  amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????
[11:46] <lowman62> Stork: not me I build my own thank you
[11:46] <berto-> $MAGIC can contain a colon-delimited list of magic files.
[11:46] <Stork> lowman62, also, because it's not humanly possible to work for 9 days without sleep
[11:46] <Stork> lowman62, so do i, not bite me.
[11:46] <topyli> AMCDeathKnight: yeah, that's why it works. the recovery and default options use the same kernel, but now your default options finds nothing to boot
[11:46] <Stork> now*
[11:47] <bueller> is mp3 support easily possible in ubuntu my cds play great mp3 not at all
[11:47] <AMCDeathKnight> i c. SO they both must be: (hd0,2)?
[11:47] <dukebody> Stork, yes, i use pure-ftpd... but there isn't a way to close a remote connection to my computer (firewalls can do!)
[11:47] <C-O-L-T>  amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????
[11:47] <C-O-L-T>  amarok has written to me that 150 songs visible of 600 why?????????????????????????????????????????
[11:47] <topyli> AMCDeathKnight: yes
[11:47] <cdubya> bueller, yes
[11:47] <Stork> lowman62, it's not hard to build your own computer
[11:47] <dukebody> that's a question Stork
[11:47] <Stork> dukebody, good point
[11:47] <bueller> do you have a link?
[11:47] <AMCDeathKnight> got ya ok fixed and will reboot and try
[11:47] <butcherbird> bueller: see wiki.ubuntu.com search for mp3
[11:47] <cdubya> !restrictedformats
[11:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:47] <AMCDeathKnight> Thanks :-)
[11:47] <liable> C-O-L-T: excessive punctuation like that is very annoying, as is asking twice in 30 seconds.
[11:48] <lowman62> Stork: once upon a time i was a truck driver...I stayed up lots of times...have the samsonite lugage to prove it under my eyes..so do me a favor lil person...climb back into your creepy lil porn site and stay there I was not talking to you anyways...flush!
[11:48] <Andrew[CS] > wuts the command to install suff again
[11:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: I found the problem, and I'm going to paste an update version of your xorg.conf file that fixes it.
[11:48] <cdubya> bueller, that should do it.
[11:48] <topyli> Andrew[CS] : sudo apt-get install "stuff"
[11:48] <kameron> i was reading here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba but it only shows a deb file for x86. can i get win32codecs for amd64?
[11:48] <Andrew[CS] > ty
[11:48] <preglow> i get a nice little error when trying to compile any program in my brand new breezy install: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[11:48] <lowman62> Stork: Dork!
[11:48] <C-O-L-T> liable: a lot of people are writing here, and in a few moments my message becomes unvisible
[11:48] <preglow> any pointers on how to fix this?
[11:48] <Stork> lowman62, what the hell is "flush"? go build a crappy computer, loser.
[11:48] <dukebody> what, Stork ??? sorry i'm spanish
[11:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: You want 1024x768, right?
[11:49] <Motoko-chan> ...
[11:49] <Andrew[CS] > sudo apt-get install ??
[11:49] <topyli> yes
[11:49] <bueller> yes pump
[11:49] <lowman62> Stork: come to my house and say that to my face lil person...don't hide behind your lil cheesy emachine and blabber crap...make yourself appear in person then we will see
[11:49] <trappist> preglow: sudo apt-get install build-essential (that particular file belongs to libc6-dev)
[11:49] <Andrew[CS] > and Pumpernickel, i want a res like that
[11:49] <bueller> wow im getting excited
[11:49] <Andrew[CS] > the max i can get it 800*600 *cries*
[11:49] <Zugwrack> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:49] <bueller> <----has been trying for a few hours
[11:50] <bueller> to get resolution fixed
[11:50] <Stork> lowman62, stop being an e-thug. Go clean your glasses or something.
[11:50] <kameron> anyone get win32codecs working with amd64?
[11:50] <preglow> trappist: how come that isn't a dependency? not requiring crt1.o in a working c install is... strange...
[11:50] <Chousuke> Stork: lowman62: Stop.
[11:50] <tenshu> Hello all , actually the great remote controller from ATI: remote wonder had some bug (incorrect/unrecognized key). I help giving info on Bugzilla, but nobody seems to be interested in. Who should I contact in dapper devellopers to help?
[11:50] <tenshu> excuse my english i'm french
[11:50] <lowman62> Stork: although I wonder why i am wating my time talking to you..I am now giving up..you are now a waste of skin...flush
[11:50] <kremonte> !fr
[11:50] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:50] <Motoko-chan> kameron, I don't think they will work.
[11:50] <preglow> trappist: thanks anyway, worked like a charm
[11:50] <Motoko-chan> They are 32-bit binaries.
[11:50] <Zugwrack> Would someone please advise on this error that I am getting? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6695
[11:51] <Stork> lowman62, what the hell is "flush" ?
[11:51] <trappist> preglow: what's a "working c install"?  the idea is that most users aren't going to be doing a lot of compiling.  for those who do, the build-essential metapackage is conveniently provided.
[11:51] <Andrew[CS] > the max i can get it 800*600 *cries*\
[11:51] <Andrew[CS] > sudo apt-get install ??
[11:51] <Andrew[CS] > sudo apt-get install ??
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: Posted in the pastebin. :)
[11:51] <Motoko-chan> And since they are closed-source, we are unlikely to get 64-bit quickly.
[11:51] <_max_> jesus wtf man
[11:51] <lowman62> Chousuke: have stopped am ignoring fluffy bunny in the room
[11:51] <_max_> stop repeating you fucking idiot
[11:51] <yggdrasil> hello gents
[11:51] <ranE_> what's the difference between those ISO files?
[11:51] <bueller> pumper ty ...
[11:51] <yggdrasil> i seemed to have messe up my repositories
[11:51] <preglow> trappist: not exactly cleverly worded by my part, no, i'm tired. anywho, i just wondered why build-essential isn't depended on by the gcc packages, it makes sense for it to be
[11:51] <yggdrasil> how can i fix the file ?
[11:51] <Motoko-chan> ranE_, which files?
[11:51] <lowman62> _max_: take a pill or something
[11:51] <Motoko-chan> You need to be a bit more detailed.
[11:51] <ranE_> ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/5.10/
[11:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: Make sure the numbers along the side don't show up in the textfile you use as your xorg.conf.
[11:52] <ranE_> which?
[11:52] <thomashauk> My iPod and flash memory stick will not mount. Both USB.
[11:52] <butcherbird> yggdrasil: breezy?
[11:52] <_max_> Andrew[CS]  if you expect to get help in a linux channel state a proper question, wait atleast 10 minutes before asking again and dont spam.
[11:52] <mwe> yggdrasil: you have to make a new one. next time please back it up before messing with it
[11:52] <Motoko-chan> They seem labeled fie to me
[11:52] <yggdrasil> butcherbird yea
[11:52] <iKrnel> Hi guys. This is my first time using ubuntu, I must say, it is pretty fast! :D
[11:52] <trappist> preglow: it's possible to compile ye olde c app without all the stuff in build-essential.  it would suck to have to install all that, if I didn't want to, just to compile my hello world.
[11:52] <mwe> yggdrasil: pastebin it and i'll clean it up for you
[11:52] <Motoko-chan> ubuntu-version-type-arch.iso
[11:52] <bueller> how to replace pumper?
[11:53] <lowman62> _max_: RTFM <--there that used to be the most common response geesh chill out
[11:53] <Bjelleklang> does anyone know about some kind of text-based hardware monitor?
[11:53] <yggdrasil> mwe ok
[11:53] <Bjelleklang> that can be used from ssh?
[11:53] <preglow> trappist: you can't compile any c program without the c runtime libs, hello world included
[11:53] <iKrnel> But I have a problem. I don't know what the default root password is. I don't have an ubuntu manual, and the wiki didn't help. Can anybody help me?
[11:53] <jhenn> is there a way to downgrade from dapper to breezy?
[11:53] <Motoko-chan> Bjelleklang, depends on what the hardware is.
[11:53] <david1> hey, does anyone know if it's possible to make animated gifs using gimp?
[11:53] <_max_> free~lowman62: problem is linux newbies dont know what RTFM stands for so you gotta slap the basics nowdays.
[11:53] <kameron> Motoko-chan that's BS man. there's got to be some way to get win32codecs working in my amd64 install
[11:53] <jhenn> iKrnel: sudo -s
[11:53] <mwe> jhenn: yeah. reformat and install over :)
[11:53] <Motoko-chan> kameron, have fun.
[11:53] <janoli> dapper is the lastest ?
[11:53] <trappist> preglow: you mean without the headers?  I s'pose that's true, unless you write your own, which is not unheard of
[11:53] <Motoko-chan> Note the 32 part
[11:53] <Motoko-chan> 32-bit
[11:53] <Andrew[CS] > dambitg
[11:54] <kameron> Motoko-chan haha, thanks man. i hope i'll find a way.
[11:54] <iKrnel> jhenn: It wants me to type in the password for root.
[11:54] <Motoko-chan> If you are native 64-bit, it won't work.
[11:54] <rjb> hi folks, is an AMD Turion a k8?
[11:54] <iKrnel> jhenn: ...which I don't have...
[11:54] <preglow> trappist: this wasn't the headers, this was the c runtime. the very code that actually calls main()
[11:54] <jhenn> iKrnel: type the user password
[11:54] <iKrnel> whoa that's hax!
[11:54] <Motoko-chan> rjb, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:54] <Bjelleklang> had a look at lm_sensors, but couldn't get it up and running
[11:54] <lowman62> _max_: exactly what my point was...they are newbies and nothing turns a newbie off a new thing more than someone bulling them...try being nicer you get more for less
[11:54] <Stork> hi, can anyone tell me the commands i'd need to split my hdd into two parts (80gb, and 80gb) while keeping my current data?
[11:54] <jhenn> iKrnel: if its not your machine  your not going to be able to and I'm not going to help you break into it
[11:54] <IdleOne> how do i install libglib1.2 libgtk1.2 libstdc++5 ?
[11:54] <rjb> Motoko-chan, and..?
[11:54] <iKrnel> jhenn: Anyway to disable that option?
[11:54] <trappist> preglow: I'm not a big c guy, but if that's the code that calls main() how does anything run, let alone compile, without it?
[11:54] <Motoko-chan> Look at the output
[11:54] <Bjelleklang> and don't have access to the gui...
[11:54] <jhenn> iKrnel: what option?
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: copy it, save it in a file called 'xorg.conf' in your home folder, and then run 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup && sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[11:55] <_max_> lowman62 i dont care for being nice to people who can't act more mature than a 13 year old on crack.
[11:55] <mwe> Stork: um you need parted I think
[11:55] <preglow> trappist: that's the deal, it didn't :) i got errors whenever i tried to compile something
[11:55] <iKrnel> jhenn: sudo -s. Lets you become root without the root password. I don't like it.
[11:55] <Zugwrack> IdleOne...checkout restricted...it will install some of what you want...with command line information
[11:55] <lowman62> _max_: I want the world to use linux and send billy bouy gate high steppin
[11:55] <rjb> wow i sort of guessed I should look at it, but it doesn't answer my question
[11:55] <mwe> Stork: but I think you need to run it from a live-cd
[11:55] <Stork> i don't understand partitions, lol
[11:55] <jhenn> iKrnel: just make sure other users aren't in the sudoers file
[11:55] <Motoko-chan> It should say in there somewhere...
[11:55] <IdleOne> Zugwrack,  restricted?
[11:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: And make sure when you copy it, you don't copy the numbers along the left-hand side. :)
[11:55] <Motoko-chan> I don't have an AMD handy to check.
[11:55] <iKrnel> jhenn: Ah, good point.
[11:55] <_max_> free~lowman62: nothing would please me more than the world to use opensource but they need to go a course in decent behaviour
[11:55] <_max_> linux channels used to be filled with intelligent well stated questions.
[11:56] <rjb> cpu family      : 15
[11:56] <rjb> model           : 36
[11:56] <_max_> not spam with "speedtalk" and other crap thats not readible or hurts your eyes.
[11:56] <yggdrasil> mwe its done
[11:56] <iKrnel> jhenn: This is most probably a dumb question, but how do I find out the root password from here?
[11:56] <Stork> brb, booting from livecd so i can partition!
[11:56] <rjb> that's what it says
[11:56] <mwe> yggdrasil: where did you paste it?
[11:56] <Telemachus> _max_ :  I toatally agree with you
[11:56] <lowman62> _max_: respect ...I understand and you are right...just that they are a newbie and don't know the rules just like you once upon a time didn't
[11:56] <jhenn> iKrnel: there is no root password
[11:56] <rjb> nothing about k8 or k-anything
[11:56] <Zugwrack> IdleOne: Just issue this command and read... !restricted
[11:56] <iKrnel> jhenn: Ah. Well, I'll have to set one...
[11:57] <IdleOne> !restricted
[11:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:57] <preglow> trappist: anywho, i just think it's curious. everything works just fine and dandy now, thanks again
[11:57] <bueller> copy it, save it in a file called 'xorg.conf' in your home folder, and then run 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup && sudo cp ~/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[11:57] <IdleOne> ty
[11:57] <bueller> is the && syntax?
[11:57] <_max_> lowman62 i never spammed a channel with crap ;) i once saw a bot where you could get it to pm someone "how to aproprietly ask something in a linux channel" should bring one in here ;p
[11:57] <jhenn> !root
[11:57] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:57] <jhenn> iKrnel: ^^
[11:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: And to start using the new xorg.conf, hit ctrl-alt-backspace (NOTE: this will quit any graphical applications you have running.)
[11:57] <Andrew[CS] > !amsn
[11:57] <ubotu> it has been said that amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[11:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: yes
[11:57] <bueller> k ;)
[11:57] <kemik> !tell _max_ about coc
[11:57] <cyphase> has anyone gotten their breezy cd's yet?
[11:58] <Andrew[CS] > but no, ubuntu
[11:58] <greenpenguin13> ages ago
[11:58] <Andrew[CS] > doesn't have that version
[11:58] <Motoko-chan> rjb, I looked it up and I see that any of the AMD chips supporting 64-bit is a K8
[11:58] <_max_> thanks kemik :)
[11:58] <kemik> Andrew[CS] :  either you stick with what's in the repositories, or you have to compile it yourself (at your own peril)
[11:58] <Motoko-chan> The Turion64 is.
[11:58] <rikai> brb, installing memory <.<;
[11:58] <mwe> cyphase: I heard someone from sweden got em in a few days
[11:59] <rjb> ok so linux-image-k8 might work better than linux-image-amd64-generic?
[11:59] <Motoko-chan> Might.
[11:59] <lowman62> _max_: some aren't as fortunate or as patient to read the f***ing manual either...I once stepped into a world of hell asking the wrong question in a mandrake channel...I got jumped on ...uninstalled and went back to my windows world in fear of linux...come on..ubuntu is cool and the idea is that it is for everybody...even those that can't read
[11:59] <Motoko-chan> You can try and see.
[11:59] <kemik> _max_:  yw ;)
[11:59] <Motoko-chan> Just make sure you can revert.
[11:59] <butcherbird> cyphase: youll get your breezy cds 3 months after dapper comes out and youll like it that way
[11:59] <rjb> what i wanna get right is suspend (sleep mode)
[11:59] <_max_> free~Andrew[CS] : Gaim is just as good as amsn.
[11:59] <rjb> my system hangs hard when awaking from sleep