[12:10] <Riddell> Tonio_: great thanks
[12:33] <Lathiat> Riddell: not installed i beleive
[12:33] <Lathiat> Riddell: at thi sstage
[12:35] <Riddell> Lathiat: do you know why that is?
[12:37] <Lathiat> Riddell: because i've yet to implement the stuff to allow you to enable/disable interfaces and that sortof thing
[12:37] <Lathiat> riddel: i mean i guess it could be disabled from /etc/default or something
[12:38] <Riddell> Lathiat: what would that require?
[12:38] <Riddell> isn't it a GUI to edit /etc/default/avahi or something?
[12:38] <Lathiat> by /etc/default/avahi i mean a simple START=no|yes and then a gui yeh
[12:38] <Riddell> or can't the runlevel editor do it?
[12:38] <Lathiat> or that
[12:39] <Lathiat> doens't seem to be how people tradiontally do it tho
[12:39] <Lathiat>  /etc/default seems popular
[12:39] <Riddell> Lathiat: and do you plan to implement that at all?
[12:39] <Lathiat>  /etc/default stuff?
[12:39] <Riddell> that and the GUI stuff
[12:40] <Lathiat> making that part of it work is easy, quick modification to the init script
[12:40] <Lathiat> the gui h adnt thought on yet
[12:40] <Lathiat> i mean if people like that idea i'm happy to do it
[12:40] <Riddell> shouldn't be hard to make a guildance module for it
[12:40] <Riddell> guidance
[12:42] <Lathiat> that dbe somethign cool for me to do having ot played witha ny of that
[12:42] <Lathiat> might look at that tonight
[12:44] <Riddell> Lathiat: and avahi is built without the qt4 bindings for now yes?
[01:00] <seth_k|lappy> heya Hobbsee, how's your day today? :)
[01:01] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: all right - i still dont understand some of those errors on those logs though - as far as i can see, the dependancies that are causing various packages to fail are in dapper!  i see them with apt-cache search!
[01:01] <Hobbsee> so i'm kinda confused
[01:01] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, then the dependencies probably aren't installable
[01:01] <Hobbsee> ah, didnt check that
[01:01] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, try installing the package it fails on, on your system, and see if you can
[01:01] <Hobbsee> will do
[01:02] <Hobbsee> now i've got to go find out what they were lol!
[01:02] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: ok, well gstreamer0.10 should build - check installs just fine here
[01:03] <Lathiat> Riddell: yeh becaue qt4 is in universe atm
[01:03] <crimsun> it's in dapper, so there should be no need to checkinstall gst0.10
[01:04] <crimsun> in fact gst0.10.1 is in
[01:06] <Hobbsee> wonder why the daily logs said it failed.  oh well
[01:15] <seth_k|lappy> how's that email backlog coming, crimsun? ;)
[01:15] <crimsun> I've cleared it
[01:15] <seth_k|lappy> nice
[01:16] <crimsun> so much to do, lectures start next week, and I have a proposal to finish
[01:26] <seth_k|lappy> \sh_away, btw, speedcrunch was already packaged b/c Riddell uploaded it but didn't archive ;)
[01:26] <seth_k|lappy> (didn't archive my REVU upload that is)
[01:30] <seth_k|lappy> \sh_away, it was a new version though (beta2 vs. beta1). Thanks for poking :)
[02:02] <Riddell> could someone check this for sanity?  http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde-hal-device-manager/kde-hal-device-manager_0.2.tar.gz
[02:03] <Riddell> seth has a date?  ooh!
[02:03] <Riddell> hmm, seth and hobbsee went away at the same time...
[03:45] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ksudoku failed http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/ksudoku/0.3-3/
[03:46] <Hobbsee> Riddell: no way!
[03:49] <Hobbsee> Riddell: there's no way that's the latest version that i sent you
[03:49] <Hobbsee> Riddell: debdiff and the version i have here says that was changed
[03:53] <Hobbsee> Riddell: for some reason, ksudoku_0.3-3 was tested, not ksudoku_0.3-3ubuntu1, which was my version
[03:54] <Riddell> Subject: ksudoku_0.3-3ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED
[03:54] <Riddell> very strange
[03:54] <Hobbsee> very
[03:54] <Hobbsee> because i definetly fixed that bug in it!
[03:55] <Riddell> universe/games/ksudoku_0.3-3ubuntu1: Dep-Wait by buildd+rothera [-:uncompiled] 
[03:55] <Riddell>   Dependencies: xlibmesa-gl-dev
[03:56] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ok, I think it needs a manual clear of that to get it to build
[03:56] <Hobbsee> Riddell: how do i do that?
[03:57] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I need to poke infinity who is incharge of the buildds
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ok, anything i can do about it, or is it a job for the people higher up instead?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> back in a min
[04:00] <Riddell> Hobbsee: inifinity says he's sent it back to the buildd so just watch the build logs for it to appear now
[04:09] <Riddell> 03:00 < Riddell> Hobbsee: inifinity says he's sent it back to the buildd so just watch the build logs for it to appear now
[04:10] <Hobbsee> ok, cool :)
[04:11] <Hobbsee> weird, this is...
[04:25] <\sh> what?
[04:26] <Riddell> xfce presumably
[04:26] <Hobbsee> xfce, sorry
[04:27] <Riddell> a window manager marketed as a desktop environment
[04:27] <Hobbsee> i'm fully appreciating just how easy kde is to use, seeing this
[04:27] <Hobbsee> :D
[04:30] <\sh> xfce is a deskop env
[04:32] <Hobbsee> i realise that - maybe i should have said xubuntu-desktop?
[04:33] <Riddell> \sh: if you class window manager + panel as a desktop envirnment then fvwm becomes one too
[04:34] <\sh> Riddell: well...it's for low end computers :)
[04:34] <Riddell> yeah, except you still have to start up firefox if you want to browse the web and k3b if you want to burn CDs...
[04:36] <Hobbsee> but hey, even firefox's getting faster!
[04:45] <Riddell> libchipcard, libaqbanking and kmymoney2 all uploaded, hopefully they'll have sorted themselves out by bed, I'm off to sleep
[04:45] <Hobbsee> night Riddell!
[04:46] <Hobbsee> it's only 4am there isnt it?  
[06:33] <seth_k|lappy> Riddell, good evening :) I got \sh to give +1 on kde-style-klearlook, just needs your blessing now ;) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1395
[06:49] <Hobbsee> seth_k|lappy: i think Riddell went to bed...
[06:49] <seth_k|lappy> Hobbsee, but he'll see it in the morning
[06:50] <Hobbsee> true
[12:11] <flosoft> hey
[12:11] <flosoft> was there a Package update that disabled PCM sound?
[12:13] <jpatrick> er..
[12:13] <flosoft> my Line etc. works
[12:14] <flosoft> but no sounds from KDE or Amarok ...
[12:14] <crimsun> paste the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer'' onto pastebin
[12:15] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i started from scratch, did it by hand - will see if i can get a package for testing :)
[12:16] <crimsun> Hobbsee: k
[12:16] <flosoft> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/494719
[12:17] <flosoft> it lists a 3rd soundcard which isn't in the PC anymore
[12:17] <crimsun> flosoft: in a Konsole, amixer sset 'External Amplifier' on
[12:18] <flosoft> still no sound
[12:18] <flosoft> it is only the PCM which doesn't work
[12:19] <crimsun> flosoft: are you using the sb live?
[12:19] <flosoft> yes
[12:20] <crimsun> flosoft: what if you mute 'Line'?
[12:20] <flosoft> same
[12:20] <crimsun> and mute 'Sigmatel Output Bias'?
[12:21] <flosoft> ah found it
[12:21] <flosoft> it was digital out etc.
[12:25] <crimsun> as long as it works.
[12:35] <freeflying_> Riddell: ping
[12:35] <freeflying_> Riddell: today's qt have not been patched with qt-immodule yet 
[12:37] <freeflying_> Hobbsee: hi
[12:37] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:38] <Hobbsee> more packages?
[12:38] <jpatrick> of what? :)
[12:38] <Hobbsee> sure we can find you some...
[12:38] <jpatrick> KleanSweep thought me never to use cdbs
[12:38] <Hobbsee> there's a whole lot on the wiki under kubuntu suggested packages
[12:39] <jpatrick> I did KMyMoney2 a while ago
[12:39] <jpatrick> Yes!! New YaKuake!!
[12:39] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: got a couple of guys in -offtopic who are eager for that lol
[12:39] <jpatrick> what YaKuake?
[12:40] <Hobbsee> yes
[12:40] <freeflying_> anyone have interesting on yzis
[12:40] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: wait it's not a new release
[12:40] <jpatrick> the verison numbers are the same
[12:41] <jpatrick> next program...
[12:42] <jpatrick> that was the fix I made for Malone #3209
[12:42] <Hobbsee> if you really wanted, you could tell me why i'm getting an error, attempting to build kradio...
[12:43] <Hobbsee> http://pastebin.com/494722
[12:43] <jpatrick> what patch are you trying to apply?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> it was one already there in a previous release - it definetly exists
[12:45] <jpatrick> like whats in the patch?
[12:46] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6741 is the contents of the patch
[12:47] <jpatrick> can't you remove it?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> got no idea - i'm very new to all this
[12:47] <jpatrick> try without the patch
[12:48] <Hobbsee> just remove that file, and the other that is in the debian/patches?
[12:48] <jpatrick> depends on what it is
[12:48] <Hobbsee> other file just points to the patch file, it looks like
[12:48] <Hobbsee> ie, contains 10-configure
[12:49] <jpatrick> remove if you ask me
[12:49] <Hobbsee> yep, will try :)
[12:53] <hunger> Hobbsee: commenting out the line in 00list should suffice.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> ok
[12:53] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: homework is to be ignored - unless it's maths
[12:54] <Hobbsee> otherwise you can safely ignore it :P
[12:54] <hunger> Hobbsee: Make sure to have the patches all unapplied before doing so.
[12:54] <Hobbsee> hunger: how would one go about doing that?
[12:54] <hunger> or wait... if you do not delete the patch itself it might work.
[12:55] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: it's Spanish :P
[12:55] <hunger> Hobbsee: That is a bit of a problem:-) There is no defined way of doing that.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: ignore it - you wont remember it anyway...lol :P
[12:55] <Hobbsee> ah
[12:56] <hunger> Hobbsee: depends on how the packager implemented dpatch.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> ooh!  well it got further than it did before!  i assume it will error out if the patch wasnt taken out correctly?
[12:56] <Hobbsee> right
[12:56] <hunger> s/implemented/used/
[01:14] <jpatrick> Riddell: new smb4k in REVU, upload requested :P
[01:48] <Hobbsee> hunger: jpat|away: it seemed to build OK without the patch :)
[02:07] <jpat|away> Hobbsee: great
[02:08] <Hobbsee> uploading
[02:08] <jpat|away> okay I really hate XP
[02:09] <jpat|away> the screen's flipped 90 degrees
[02:09] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:09] <jpat|away> that's a sister's laptop I'm on about
[02:10] <hunger> Hobbsee: Nice!
[02:10] <Hobbsee> very!
[02:10] <Hobbsee> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1419
[02:10] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: I wish I was an MOTU (KDE)
[02:11] <Hobbsee> so you could review it?
[02:11] <jpatrick> yeah
[02:11] <hunger> jpatrick: That is the superior graphics from XP:-) Wait a couple of month and we will have patched such junk onto X as well.
[02:11] <jpatrick> hunger: I don't know how the thing did it
[02:13] <Hobbsee> night all
[02:13] <jpatrick> cya Hobbsee 
[02:13] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: someday you will, i hope
[02:13] <jpatrick> well I'm applying for Ubuntu membership
[02:14] <Hobbsee> ooh good!
[02:14] <jpatrick> first gotta fix this laptop
[02:15] <Hobbsee> hehe
[02:15] <Hobbsee> kick it :P works wonders
[02:30] <jpatrick> hunger: my problem: http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dibujo9wt.png
[02:36] <hunger> jpatrick: Strange language... but what is wrong besides that?
[02:38] <jpatrick> it's Spanish
[02:38] <jpatrick> it's the screen rotated 90 degrees
[02:39] <hunger> jpatrick: Hmmm. Didn't notice, but then I am a absolute looser when it comes to languages.... my wife handles those nasty people issues;-)
[02:39] <jpatrick> Dunno how to rotate it back
[02:40] <jpatrick> in Kubuntu a simple: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would do it
[02:41] <hunger> jpatrick: In XP it is as simple as ticking some box hidden in some dialog hidden in some config thingy.
[02:41] <hunger> jpatrick: That is why XP is supposed to be user friendly.
[02:42] <jpatrick> hmmm
[02:42] <hunger> jpatrick: It hiddes all those nasty settings from you, so you can not mess things up!
[02:43] <jpatrick> If only it wasn't in Spanish..
[02:43] <hunger> jpatrick: You do not speak spanish?
[02:43] <jpatrick> I do
[02:44] <jpatrick> I just never use XP (except for schhol)
[02:47] <Riddell> what am I doing wrong with qt's dpatch thingy?!
[02:57] <freeflying> Riddell: hi
[02:58] <freeflying> Riddell: plz check today's buildlog for qt
[03:10] <Riddell> freeflying: something funny is going on and it's not applying the patch.  this is why I don't use dpatch
[03:11] <freeflying> Riddell: seems you shall upload again .hmm
[03:13] <jpatrick> Riddell: want some volunteers for KDE 3.5.1 packages?
[03:15] <Riddell> freeflying: I need to work out what I'm doing wrong then I'll upload again, sorry
[03:15] <Riddell> jpatrick: in a couple of weeks time yes
[03:16] <freeflying> Riddell: I can wait for a whole week .
[03:16] <jpatrick> but won't the UpstreamReleaseFreeze be before than?
[03:18] <jpatrick> Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1422
[03:18] <Riddell> jpatrick: yes, we'll just have to ask for an exception which I think will be OK but we'll see closer to the time
[03:19] <Riddell> freeflying: yeah, I'll look at it today
[03:20] <freeflying> Riddell: maybe we can use uming and ukai without xdelta 
[03:21] <Riddell> freeflying: what is xdelta?
[03:21] <freeflying> uming and ukai dependent on it now 
[03:22] <freeflying> Riddell: A diff utility which works with binary files
[03:23] <mornfall> xdelta -> binary delta compressor
[03:23] <freeflying> Riddell: anything need we do for CJK support 
[03:23] <mornfall> not overly efficient
[03:24] <mornfall> vdelta algorthm gives better results IIRC
[03:24] <mornfall> ah and check out bsdiff
[03:24] <mornfall> they use qsufsort --> much better results
[03:26] <Riddell> I need to go out, freeflying if you want to compile qt yourself with immodule just get the sources and add the patch names to 00list
[03:51] <JRe> Riddell: I am currently developing a Simple Backup System for KDE. I think it will be ready before Dapper
[03:51] <JRe> Riddell: (like Konserve but improved a lot)
[03:54] <JRe> Riddell: it would be cool if you tell me what do you think of it and if you're interessted to have such an app in dapper
[03:54] <JRe> http://jr.falleri.free.fr/keep/wiki/Screenshots
[03:55] <jpatrick> JRe: nice :)
[03:55] <JRe> jpatrick: thanks :)
[03:56] <jpatrick> Looks way better than Konverse
[03:57] <JRe> jpatrick: yes I try to make it as simple as possible
[03:57] <JRe> jpatrick: put it even have advanced functionnalities
[03:57] <JRe> jpatrick: (for example using librsync and only sotre diff)
[03:58] <jpatrick> should I package the lastest one or is it in heavy development?
[03:58] <JRe> jpatrick: now wait a little
[03:58] <JRe> jpatrick: I am finilizing v2
[03:58] <JRe> (0.2.0)
[03:58] <JRe> jpatrick: which will be the first usable version
[03:58] <jpatrick> ok
[04:01] <jpatrick> I wish I could do C++ (Qt/KDE) development
[04:03] <JRe> jpatrick: you should it's not that hard
[04:04] <JRe> jpatrick: QT is an awesome lib
[04:04] <JRe> jpatrick: it lead C++ to be almost as simple as Java ;)
[04:04] <jpatrick> JRe: I'm stilling read C++ GUI Programming with Qt3 by Blanchette
[04:04] <freeflying> JRe: upstreame freeze date will e at Jan 19th 
[04:05] <JRe> freeflying: so I need to release a version before that date, right ?
[04:05] <JRe> jpatrick: try also the KDE Programme Book; it also rocks
[04:05] <freeflying> JRe: as early as you can 
[04:05] <jpatrick> freeflying: he doesn't have to
[04:06] <jpatrick> JRe: such as? :)
[04:06] <JRe> jpatrick: it's quite possible :)
[04:06] <JRe> jpatrick: i am on holydays next week so I think I will make it ;)
[04:07] <jpatrick> JRe: if we do what we're doing with Guidance - you have plenty of time
[04:07] <jpatrick> freeflying, JRe: as long as Keep isn't considered upstream
[04:08] <JRe> jpatrick: I think it will available on other distro (tough Kubuntu is my primary target =) )
[04:10] <freeflying> jpatrick: after all Keep in't in dapper now 
[04:10] <jpatrick> JRe: Vous connaissez un livre sur la programmation de KDE?
[04:10] <JRe> jpatrick: yes; there is one in the ubuntu repository
[04:10] <jpatrick> really?
[04:11] <JRe> jpatrick: yeah and it kick ass
[04:11] <JRe> jpatrick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/doc/ebook-dev-kde20
[04:11] <jpatrick> KDE _2_ development
[04:12] <jpatrick> a bit old.... ?
[04:12] <JRe> jpatrick: yeah but some part are still actuals
[04:12] <jpatrick> but who cares :P
[04:12] <JRe> jpatrick: and it's a great entry point to start kde development
[04:12] <JRe> jpatrick: and it's free :)
[04:12] <jpatrick> how did it get into multiverse...
[04:13] <JRe> jpatrick: dunnow, but how is it possible that you're speaking french so well ?
[04:13] <jpatrick> JRe: I'm getting it
[04:13] <jpatrick> JRe: I know a bit of French (studied it for 4 years)
[04:13] <JRe> ok :)
[04:14] <jpatrick> and I live next door to France :)
[04:14] <JRe> jpatrick: the book is cool. it even explain the kde autotool system IIRC
[04:14] <jpatrick> where does it install to?
[04:14] <JRe> jpatrick: england or deutshland ?
[04:14] <jpatrick> Spain
[04:14] <JRe> jpatrick: try /usr/share/doc/ebook-dev-kde20
[04:15] <jpatrick> (tho I am from England)
[04:15] <JRe> jpatrick: ok I used to live in spain
[04:15] <JRe> jpatrick: two years ago
[04:15] <jpatrick> cool
[04:15] <jpatrick> wow
[04:15] <jpatrick> big book
[04:15] <JRe> jpatrick: yeah I love that country :)
[04:16] <JRe> jpatrick: I told you it's great one
[04:18] <jpatrick> JRe: I do have a few problems with C++, like: I still don't quite understand how pointers work :s
[04:18] <jpatrick> but I think I'll soon figure it out
[04:22] <jpatrick> JRe: Spain's great but I wanted some snow :)
[04:23] <JRe> jpatrick: i had it some in madrid, i went skying
[04:23] <JRe> jpatrick: yeah pointer are very disturbing
[04:23] <jpatrick> None in Catalonia (except for the mountains)
[04:24] <JRe> jpatrick: and it's true that c++ is the worse oriented object ever
[04:24] <JRe> language
[04:24] <jpatrick> I'm brushing up on Python for Kubuntu Express
[04:25] <JRe> jpatrick: python is quite cool, but many kde technologies are not available with it (like kconfigxt
[04:25] <jpatrick> wait - brb
[04:28] <jpatrick> okay; I'm back now
[04:50] <jpatrick> JRe: "khello.cpp:8: warning: __comp_ctor  is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/kde/kapplication.h:205)" <- is that bad?
[06:38] <\sh> Riddell: did you make an update to your sources, using kde stuff now for kde hal device manager? :)
[06:47] <sebas> What was the problem anyway?
[06:50] <sebas> I've kdewidgets in qt-designer, IIRC.
[07:22] <Riddell> sebas: hmm?
[07:22] <Riddell> sebas: if you use kdewidgets with python in qt designer the pyuic doesn't include the right stuff
[07:40] <\sh> Riddell: read my last blog article :) it explains what you have to do :)
[07:41] <\sh> the uic compiler for python-kde3 is kdepyuic
[07:41] <\sh> there are as well some example stuff mentioned from kpybt :)
[07:46] <jpat|away> \sh: nice
[07:47] <\sh> what?
[07:47] <jpatrick> the thing on kdepyuic
[07:47] <\sh> oh that...well it bugged me a long time ago :)
[07:48] <jpatrick> hmm... Riddell mentions Ruby...
[07:48] <jpatrick> I found that to be too slow
[07:48] <\sh> because debian didn't package it in times of hoary and breezy..so I had to find out by myself that there is something like this in python-kde3
[07:50] <jpatrick> Python's far nice than Ruby if you ask me
[07:50] <Riddell> \sh: aah, which package is that in?
[07:50] <\sh> i don't know ruby..
[07:50] <\sh> Riddell: python-kde3-dev
[07:51] <\sh> shermann@amd64-home:~$ apt-file search kdepyuic
[07:51] <\sh> python-kde3-dev: usr/bin/kdepyuic
[07:51] <\sh> i should think about moving it to python-kde3-tools
[07:59] <\sh> ok going out for a bit...need some walking
[08:00] <mornfall> Riddell: what's the current status wrt my spec?
[08:30] <jpatrick> weird
[08:30] <jpatrick> KDE Hal Device Manager picks up a 'speaker sound thing'
[08:30] <jpatrick> but KInfoCenter doesn't
[09:06] <jpatrick> hey DoeRayMe 
[09:06] <DoeRayMe> hey, how r ya?
[09:07] <jpatrick> fine
[09:07] <Tm_T> yankee...
[09:07] <jpatrick> Tm_T: ouch
[09:07] <Tm_T> =)
[09:18] <\sh> where is anthony mercatante?
[09:18] <Tm_T> home?
[09:18] <jpatrick> \sh: not here
[09:18] <\sh> I just uploaded his prozilla deb
[09:18] <Tm_T> jpatrick: two spart asses? =)
[09:18] <Tm_T> smart even
[09:19] <jpatrick> \sh: could you look at my smb4k? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1424
[09:20] <\sh> I'm going down the list while I'm eating pizza :)
[09:20] <jpatrick> yum.....
[09:20] <\sh> woops
[09:20] <\sh> where is tiber
[11:01] <\sh> Riddell: where did aaron get his kubuntu cds?
[11:02] <teprrr> \sh, prolly from that company behind ubuntu?
[11:02] <\sh> well...I never seen them officially announced
[11:33] <Verwilst> hellow!
[11:33] <Verwilst> Riddell: you gonna be at fosdem too? :)
[11:33] <Riddell> hi Verwilst 
[11:33] <Riddell> Verwilst: yes I hope so
[11:33] <Verwilst> cool! me too
[11:33] <Verwilst> i'll buy you a drink ;)
[11:34] <Riddell> great, I'll be the one in the kilt
[11:34] <Verwilst> hehe
[11:34] <Verwilst> i'll buy you a scotch :p
[11:34] <Verwilst> where are you from anyways?
[11:34] <Riddell> scotland
[11:35] <Verwilst> really? :d hehe
[11:35] <Verwilst> my dad is addicted to scotland :p
[11:35] <Verwilst> he collects whiskey and goes to scotland a few times a year, with his motorcycle
[11:35] <Verwilst> and he's in clan McKenzie
[11:35] <Verwilst> or somehitng like that :)
[11:35] <Verwilst> don't know if you know that
[11:36] <Hobbsee> morning all
[11:36] <Verwilst> evenin'
[11:45] <\sh> Riddell: did you play with kdepyuic and qt designer and kde widgets?
[11:45] <Riddell> \sh: ah that's what I was going to do.  we had a riot in the street and I got distracted
[11:45] <\sh> a riot in the street? what going on?
[11:46] <Riddell> not too sure, gang of people attacked the pub
[11:46] <Riddell> I tried to take photos but didn't get very much of use
[11:47] <\sh> Riddell: hope no one was hurt
[11:49] <Riddell> honestly don't know, I'd guess the people inside the pub were quite surprised
[11:49] <Riddell> football match today, but it's still very strange
[11:51] <Riddell> hmm, adding a KListView and using kdepyuic causes a segfault
[11:52] <\sh> hmmm?
[11:54] <\sh> Riddell: dapper?
[11:55] <\sh> let me check it
[11:56] <Riddell> yes dapper
[11:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: is there any chance you could have a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1421 at some point please?
[11:58] <Riddell> kubuntu.org/~jr/tmp/haltest.tar.gz
[11:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: it actually seems to work on my system now, as opposed to the version i uploaded last night :)
[11:59] <Riddell> Hobbsee: this is for an FM radio card?
[11:59] <Hobbsee> think so - it was one of the packages on kubuntu suggested packages
[12:00] <Riddell> ah, but you haven't actually tested it works to make sound :)
[12:01] <Hobbsee> hehe - so it's still screwed?