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| Madpilot | busy place here tonight... :P | 05:14 |
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| Burgundavia | indeed | 05:15 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, you make any progress on that poster? | 05:15 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, oh, I will see you tomorrow and pay you back | 05:15 |
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| Madpilot | Burgundavia: money is good | 05:15 |
| Madpilot | the poster is done, but are the date & room correct? | 05:15 |
| Burgundavia | no, but I want the PDF because the pres of VLUG is on my ass about it | 05:16 |
| Madpilot | OK, give me a minute3 | 05:16 |
| Madpilot | minute, even... :P | 05:16 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, can you think of places that might be good to put up posters at? | 05:18 |
| Madpilot | libraries - maybe web cafes too? | 05:19 |
| Madpilot | oh, FFS... importing the SVG into Scribus made half the text vanish... | 05:20 |
| Burgundavia | yes, I ran into that | 05:20 |
| Madpilot | ... and that Tux svg is a massive thing, Scribus doesn't like it much... | 05:22 |
| Burgundavia | yes, noticed that | 05:22 |
| Madpilot | Tux works, at least. I'll just redo the blasted text, give me a few minutes and I'll email you the PDF... | 05:23 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: part of the problem is that Scribus doesn't like the FreeFonts for some reason - FreeMono and the rest | 05:26 |
| Burgundavia | ugh | 05:27 |
| Madpilot | do me a favour - check the various bugzillas for that? they're both FLOSS projects, so bugfiling might have already been done - I'll ask on the Scribus ML as well | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | maybe you should try MS Word ;-) | 05:29 |
| Madpilot | LaserJock: Scribus isn't a word processor at all :P | 05:29 |
| LaserJock | neither is Word ;-) | 05:30 |
| === LaserJock is just being stupid, sorry | ||
| Burgundavia | http://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=2392 | 05:31 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: eh - check the 2nd comment from the Scribus dev @ that bug - I will have to rebuild the thing in Scribus then | 05:32 |
| Burgundavia | ugh, strip out of the text and import that | 05:33 |
| === Burgundavia wishes Inkscape had PDF support | ||
| Burgundavia | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21407\ | 05:34 |
| Burgundavia | see that, 3rd comment regarding fonts | 05:34 |
| LaserJock | would gimp do it? | 05:34 |
| Madpilot | LaserJock: we're going for PDF output, and that's Scribus' speciality | 05:35 |
| Madpilot | I'm not sure GIMP can do PDF, actually. Haven't bothered looking. | 05:35 |
| LaserJock | I don't know, I don't do that kind of stuff very much, although I need to make a poster this month for a conference so I might have to learn how to use Scribus | 05:36 |
| Madpilot | Scribus is very cool, but it's one of those powerful programs that's easy to learn but hard to master | 05:44 |
| LaserJock | cool, in my line of work the we usually use LaTeX but I think Scribus might be better for me | 05:44 |
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| Burgundavia | grr, bloody hell | 05:48 |
| Burgundavia | I got SVG to embed in Docbook before | 05:48 |
| Madpilot | LaserJock: I've fiddled with latex; Scribus is a fully graphical DTP app, though, so for posters & the like it's probably better than latex | 05:50 |
| LaserJock | Madpilot: I agree, I spent forever last year making a 4ft.x4ft. poster for a conference last year in latex | 05:53 |
| Madpilot | http://www.warbard.ca/temp/Ubuntu_CA_insert.pdf <-- my first ever Scribus project | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | cool, looks very professional. | 05:56 |
| Madpilot | thanks - the double-sided part is still a bit messed up, not sure why, when printed from PDF - printing it from inside Scribus itself works fine... | 05:56 |
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| Madpilot | Burgundavia: it prints, it looks big and penguin-y - PDF inbound shortly | 05:58 |
| Madpilot | cool, it works in Adobe Reader too... | 06:01 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: email off... | 06:04 |
| Burgundavia | bloody hell, I spent a long time getting that text to align | 06:05 |
| Madpilot | I spent about five seconds :P | 06:06 |
| Madpilot | there are advantages to an actual DTP app, vs a vector drawing app | 06:06 |
| Burgundavia | no, I am saying your text looks like ass | 06:06 |
| Burgundavia | compare the way I had my text align vs. yours | 06:07 |
| Madpilot | hm? It looks roughly the same as yours? | 06:07 |
| Burgundavia | I right aligned the questions and left aligned the answers | 06:07 |
| Madpilot | just noticed that - I'll fix it, just a sec | 06:08 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: better text alignment? http://www.warbard.ca/temp/vlug_poster.png | 06:17 |
| Burgundavia | yes, much better | 06:17 |
| Madpilot | OK - PDF in a mo... | 06:17 |
| Burgundavia | vlug.org is a bit too small | 06:17 |
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| Madpilot | Burgundavia: I've bumped it up, PDF coming... | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, going to avoid having to use a QT app for as long as possibly | 06:23 |
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| Burgundavia | need more space between the box and vlug.org | 06:23 |
| === Burgundavia spanks bhuvan for actually working | ||
| Madpilot | there is no more space, the URL is against the lower margin already | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | then move the box up | 06:24 |
| bhuvan | it was brian's patch :) | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | bhuvan, still, no working. We might actually release something for dapper if you keep doing that | 06:25 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, figure Sharon will kick the bucket this weekend? | 06:27 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: http://www.warbard.ca/temp/vlug_lastedit.png (and note the filename of this screenshot... :P ) | 06:28 |
| Burgundavia | looks fine ;) | 06:28 |
| === Burgundavia enjoys being boss | ||
| Madpilot | it better - incoming, you lazy SOB... | 06:29 |
| Madpilot | gah... Nautilus hangs on nearly any FTP action - after doing it, thankfully... | 06:31 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, sent to Andrew Willard for "executive decision", b*****d | 06:33 |
| Burgundavia | him, not you | 06:33 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: you're just going to have to run for BoD, you know | 06:34 |
| Burgundavia | nov 2006 I intend to | 06:34 |
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| Madpilot | http://www.tradeshowhell.com/?q=penguinpiss | 07:00 |
| poningru_games | guys is there anything that will allow me to make little vids of stuff I am doing? | 07:06 |
| poningru_games | kinda like a screenshot | 07:06 |
| Burgundavia | poningru_games, istanbul | 07:06 |
| poningru_games | except more like a screenvid | 07:06 |
| poningru_games | oh | 07:06 |
| === poningru_games looks | ||
| poningru_games | !info instanbul | 07:06 |
| poningru_games | doh | 07:06 |
| Burgundavia | wrong chan | 07:06 |
| poningru_games | thats awesome | 07:07 |
| poningru_games | thanks dude | 07:07 |
| poningru_games | now if only there was a method to sync voice with it | 07:09 |
| Madpilot | where on the wiki is the Dapper freeze timetable? | 07:25 |
| Burgundavia | DapperReleaseSchedule | 07:26 |
| Madpilot | thnx | 07:27 |
| Madpilot | upstream version freeze 19th Jan - wonder if the latest stable release of Scribus will make it in? | 07:28 |
| Burgundavia | file a bug about it | 07:29 |
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| Burgundavia | http://debian.scribus.net/debian/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/ | 07:30 |
| Madpilot | 1.2.4.1 is the latest, so it's already been packaged for Debian | 07:31 |
| Burgundavia | that includes cvs code | 07:32 |
| Madpilot | no, that's the 1.3.x dev branch - 1.2.x branch is stable, non-cvs AFAIK | 07:33 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 07:33 |
| Burgundavia | when is the next stable version due to be released? | 07:33 |
| Madpilot | no idea | 07:33 |
| Madpilot | when it's stable :P | 07:33 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: enhancement/dev "bugs" like this to bugzilla.u.c or malone? | 07:37 |
| Burgundavia | if 1.2.4.1 is the latest stable, then wait until the next stable is releasee | 07:38 |
| Madpilot | Dapper still has 1.2.3.something listed, though: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=scribus&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all | 07:39 |
| Burgundavia | oh, then file in bugzilla | 07:40 |
| Burgundavia | mention that we might want to pull directly from upstreams deb | 07:40 |
| Madpilot | ok | 07:40 |
| Burgundavia | I think the debian maintainer might build both packages | 07:42 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22020 | 07:51 |
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| poningru | anyone know what ubuntu-express will be called? I just read they changed the name | 08:59 |
| Burgundavia | poningru, espresso | 08:59 |
| poningru | wow | 09:00 |
| poningru | cool | 09:00 |
| poningru | thanks dude | 09:00 |
| Burgundavia | always try and be helpful | 09:00 |
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| Burgundavia | Madpilot, http://news.lugnet.com/announce/moc/?n=3170 | 10:44 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: that's gloriously insane :P | 11:15 |
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| Burgundavia | arggghhh https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OtherWaysToInstall | 11:52 |
| Madpilot | yikes | 11:53 |
| Madpilot | nuke it, redirect to AddingRepos? | 11:53 |
| Burgundavia | leave it for now | 11:53 |
| === Burgundavia braves #ubuntu | ||
| Madpilot | "I want to pummel the author of..." :P | 11:54 |
| Burgundavia | nah, just scare him | 11:56 |
| Madpilot | Wiki-Writing Commandment The First: Thou Shalt Use The Search - As Crappy As It Is - Before Thou Creates A New Page | 11:57 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, night | 12:04 |
| Madpilot | later | 12:04 |
| Madpilot | see you tomorrow? | 12:05 |
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| ompaul | curious does anyone know if there is a wiki page that specifically explains how to get "source code" from the repos onto a users machine - I think this is missing I have been looking for a little while this morning for same | 12:12 |
| Madpilot | we've got two seperate Compiling pages, only one of which actually tells you how to compile something... :P | 12:13 |
| ompaul | I want to reference it - or write it but as I am not the best writer on planet earth I would like to find a better source for same (you may if you choose shoot me for the unintentional pun) | 12:13 |
| ompaul | Madpilot, no I want apt-get source | 12:14 |
| Madpilot | ompaul: not sure, and I'm just shutting down for the night... | 12:14 |
| ompaul | k | 12:14 |
| ompaul | I think the thing is write it myself you can tidy up the broken thinking in the morning :) | 12:14 |
| ompaul | Madpilot, msg? | 12:15 |
| Madpilot | ompaul: you can always contact the mailing list as well, if you want to bounce ideas around before writing... | 12:15 |
| Madpilot | pm? go ahead | 12:15 |
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| ompaul | Madpilot, if I get on another mailing list I will loose any marbles I have left | 12:16 |
| mdke | hi all | 12:16 |
| ompaul | catch ya later sleep well | 12:16 |
| mdke | ompaul, you can never subscribe to too many mailing lists | 12:16 |
| ompaul | mdke, hehe | 12:17 |
| Madpilot | anyway, I really do need sleep - later, all | 12:17 |
| mdke | night | 12:18 |
| ompaul | is there a guide for writing stuff on the wiki? | 12:37 |
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| ompaul | anyone able to point me a wiki docs for the following subjects (a) standards of documentation, (b) Formatting correctly | 03:01 |
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| mdke | blasted powercuts | 04:07 |
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| LaserJock | hi theCore | 05:56 |
| theCore | hey ! | 05:56 |
| theCore | hi, LaserJock | 05:56 |
| theCore | it been a long time ... :) | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | I just got back from Christmas vacation | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | have you gotten any farther with the Packaging Guide? I didn't do much over the vacation but I am starting to work on it now | 05:59 |
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| theCore | nah, I just made some few things like merging the Outline with PackagingGuide wiki page, and one paragraph of text | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | one paragraph of text on the wiki or in the XML? | 06:01 |
| theCore | i'm just don't what to write on the debhelper scenario, it's too easy | 06:02 |
| theCore | xml | 06:02 |
| theCore | with the hello package you just need to enter one command, so quite though to make a full page about that single command | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | well, but we need to explain what it is doing I guess | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | also that you have to inclued debhelper in the build dependencies | 06:05 |
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| theCore | for the scenario?, yes | 06:06 |
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| dandielionous | hello | 06:47 |
| hyperactivecrond | hello | 06:52 |
| ompaul | anyone able to point me a wiki docs for the following subjects (a) standards of documentation, (b) Formatting correctly | 07:08 |
| ompaul | or for that matter any docs that would point me in the right direction on those points? | 07:08 |
| LaserJock | ompaul: wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamGettingStarted should have some links at least | 07:19 |
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| ompaul | LaserJock, thanks | 07:39 |
| ompaul | mdke, okay I'll join another mailing list (my poor pop server will be creaking :-)) | 07:41 |
| poningru | ok so I have been thinking hard about what to name dapper+1 | 07:47 |
| poningru | heres an idea | 07:47 |
| poningru | gator | 07:47 |
| poningru | golden gator | 07:48 |
| poningru | greasy gator | 07:48 |
| poningru | there is always | 07:48 |
| poningru | grumpy gator | 07:48 |
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| shagha | hi... i've just installed ubuntu..can i ask a question? | 08:20 |
| nickrud | shagha, sure | 08:21 |
| shagha | actually on installing it, i created a user acount let's call it "me" , ok? then while i logged on with "me" account, i created another one "mee" set to default.. | 08:21 |
| nickrud | and a bunch of stuff doesn't work like you'd expect, I assume | 08:21 |
| shagha | then while i was already logged on with the "me" account, i deleted "me" account. i logged off and restarted,right!? | 08:22 |
| nickrud | ouch | 08:22 |
| shagha | but i can't do any administrative task with the other account. | 08:22 |
| shagha | auch ! yes!:( | 08:22 |
| nickrud | shagha, heh. | 08:22 |
| shagha | what? | 08:22 |
| shagha | i ... well, i thought this might happen. just wanted to make sure! :D | 08:22 |
| nickrud | well, first this is the channel for working on docs, #ubuntu is support. and | 08:22 |
| shagha | aaaaaaaaoooooo | 08:23 |
| shagha | sorry! | 08:23 |
| shagha | sorry sorry! | 08:23 |
| shagha | i'll find the appropiate channel then . | 08:23 |
| shagha | thx | 08:23 |
| shagha | sorry! | 08:23 |
| nickrud | no problem, we try to be nice | 08:23 |
| nickrud | anyway, reboot in recovery mode, then | 08:23 |
| nickrud | adduser <mee> admin, and reboot | 08:24 |
| shagha | :) THX!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 08:24 |
| shagha | really thx. pple don't help me these days! | 08:24 |
| shagha | bunch of thx . best wishes upon you! try to be good and happy ! ;) THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK.bye | 08:24 |
| nickrud | shagha, #ubuntu is pleasant. Enjoy yourself | 08:24 |
| shagha | i sure will! u too. | 08:25 |
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| Burgundavia | ahh, too many Brians!! | 09:23 |
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