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Motoko-chanI don't know how to do two entries with grub. I'm more used to lilo.12:00
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_max_free~lowman62: can't sissy people ;) sometimes you gotta play hardball to get em to read.12:00
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Motoko-chanrjb, you can try checking the wiki.12:00
Motoko-chanProbably one piece of hardware is causing issues.12:00
lowman62anyways tis friday...i am outta here...later room and even those that are Sdorks...flush laterz12:00
btaylor5619Can someone indulge me with the answer to a question?12:00
rjbMotoko-chan, did that but no answer found12:00
_max_lowman62: and yeah ubuntu's a huge step for linux in the comercial world :) lovin in on desktops ;)12:00
Motoko-chanrjb, sorry, I don't know then. Maybe someone else does.12:00
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_max_s/in/it12:00
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Andrew[CS] PUMPERNICKLE12:01
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PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : Yes?12:01
Andrew[CS] PM12:01
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dawidcan sum1 help me with wine?12:01
Storkme#winehq12:01
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_max_free~dawid: ask the question and people who know the answer will answer.12:01
btaylor5619Is there any way to defragment my Ubuntu hard drive?12:02
mwemaybe ubuntu is for people that can't read but that means they can't do irc either :)12:02
dawidokay i get this error where the programs actually run but when they try and grab their current directory its incorrect.. like a file in C:\Games\SC would say its in C:\Windows and if i change the12:02
Motoko-chanbtaylor5619, you usually don't need to defrag on Linux.12:02
Telemachusbtaylor5619: it does not need defragmenting12:02
yggdrasilmwe what do you think ?12:02
dawidsetup using winetools the directory it claims to be in changes, however its static no-matter where the file really is12:02
btaylor5619i see12:02
mweyggdrasil: you didn't post a link12:02
yggdrasilblah12:03
yggdrasilhaha12:03
Telemachusbtaylor5619: it is not a fat or ntfs filesystem so works diffrently12:03
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yggdrasilhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670012:03
yggdrasilhow dat12:03
kemikdawid:  is winetools used in the wine-version that comes with breezy? think it's 'winecfg' now12:03
Storkmeok, so i've booted up from the live cd. how do i partition now12:03
yggdrasilcfdisk ?12:03
polpakStorkme, gparted12:03
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buellerpumpernickel you are royalty12:03
dawidyes it is, winecfg is part of winetools (or is called from wine tools)12:03
Storkmepolpak, i'm an uber noob to this. i don't understand how to work gparted12:03
polpakStorkme, but it may not work right. I had issues with the breezy live cd12:03
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: :D12:03
mweyggdrasil: it's messed. I'll clean it and post the link12:03
bueller1024 looks letterbox12:04
yggdrasilcfthanks12:04
mykecan someone help me with a firewire mount12:04
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: Letterbox? O_o12:04
buellerbut 800-600 looks ok12:04
yggdrasili dont know how it got so screwd up12:04
mykei plug it in and it isnt working12:04
dawidhere is error giving when using winetools to install : err:exec:SHELL_ExecuteW cannot set directory L"c:\\windows\\system32\\shell32.dll"12:04
yggdrasili just wasnt paying attention12:04
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buellerthink widescreen dvd12:04
PuMpErNiCkLeah12:04
mweyggdrasil: please back it up next time you edit it12:04
PuMpErNiCkLecool12:04
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mykewhat is the list cmd for ieee1394?12:04
buellerspeaking of dvd12:04
buellerlol12:04
PuMpErNiCkLe^^12:04
IdleOnewhy d i get an error when i try to install fakeroot?12:04
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Storkmepolpak, what i did, is resize the old partition, then create a new one with the unallocated space. is that right?12:05
polpakStorkme, correct12:05
Storkmeoh good12:05
polpakStorkme, or create 3 with the unallocated space12:05
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Storkmei don't think it's working though12:05
mweyggdrasil: you want back-ports, universe and multiverse?12:05
polpakStorkme, which is what I prefer12:05
buellerisplaying mp3 and dvd a nightmare12:05
Storkmepolpak, why?12:05
yggdrasilmwe yea12:05
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yggdrasillike everything12:05
Storkmepolpak, how long should it take?12:05
polpakStorkme, Well it's generall a good idea to have 1 partition for swap12:05
polpakStorkme, a while12:05
dawidmm guess no1?12:05
Storkmeoh ok12:05
PuMpErNiCkLebueller: Shouldn't be.12:06
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kemikdawid:  do you use the latest wine? i think it's supposed to use 'winecfg' and not winetools12:06
polpakStorkme, and I like to have /home on a different partition than /12:06
Storkmepolpak, fair enough12:06
IdleOnehow do I install java-package and fakeroot?12:06
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polpakStorkme, so I can reinstall or upgrade more easily12:06
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mykeanyone use firewire drives?>12:06
Storkmepolpak, i'm a linux noob so i don't think it'll matter much. is data loss likely?12:06
polpakubotu, tell IdleOne about java12:06
_max_Storkme : cfdisk is reaaally easy to use. just cfdisk /dev/yourdevice12:06
dawidno but winetools has a section to launch winecfg so i beleive it is supperior.. but i will call it indirectly then12:06
BergI need help12:06
buellerwell ubuntu doesnt recognize my cdrw/dvd player as such12:06
polpakStorkme, not terribly likely no.12:06
_max_free~Berg: dont ask for help, ask the question :)12:07
dawidkemik : Im sure im using the latest wine i installed ubuntu yesterday12:07
yggdrasilcan ubuntu make me more popular with the ladies ?12:07
Storkmepolpak, by the way i decided to install ubuntu 32-bit so it'll be easier to install quake4 (i'm dying to play that game)12:07
buellerand mp3's say missing plugin12:07
mweyggdrasil: now promise to back it up first if you wanna mess with it again. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670112:07
Andrew[CS] cant  u  read  this  ???12:07
yggdrasilyes sir12:07
polpakStorkme, and you can always resize your linux install afterwards12:07
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dawidyggdrasil : It may have the opposite effect12:07
BergI just installed ubuntu and my resolution is 640x whatever and I want to make it bigger but it wont let me12:07
dawidyggdrasil : However KDE with its transparent windows might12:07
kemikAndrew[CS] : yes we can12:07
PuMpErNiCkLe!nonfree12:07
ubotuPuMpErNiCkLe: I give up, what is it?12:07
yggdrasilhaha12:07
crimsun!tell Berg about fixres12:07
_max_Berg: you probably dont have the graphics drivers installed.12:07
PuMpErNiCkLehmm12:07
yggdrasilim using enlightenment12:07
IdleOnepolpak,  did that but when i enter in sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common i get error E: Couldn't find package java-package12:07
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Berghow can I do that? it wont load any of my CD's12:07
StorkmeIdleOne, you need to install universe and multiverse12:08
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polpakIdleOne, what version of ubuntu do you have?12:08
PuMpErNiCkLeI must have forgotten the right syntax.12:08
Berg5.0212:08
Andrew[CS] caz i dont pumpernickel can12:08
Bergbut I ordered 10.212:08
crimsunBerg: I just had a link sent to you. Read it.12:08
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : What can I do?12:08
Bergoops12:08
mykecan someone help me with a firewire drive?12:08
BergI closed it12:08
Berg:(12:08
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IdleOne5.10 and universe and multiverse are enabled12:08
C-O-L-Ttopyli: I don't know what happened but now works Rythmbox yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee12:08
Andrew[CS] read my pms??12:08
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StorkmeIdleOne, no, they aren't12:08
Andrew[CS] pm's*12:08
crimsunBerg: ask ubotu about fixres12:08
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : Getting nothing, sorry...12:08
StorkmeIdleOne, oh sorry i misread. ignore that12:09
Andrew[CS] oh, thats gay12:09
Bergcan you send the link again?12:09
PuMpErNiCkLeindeed12:09
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IdleOneStorkme,  np12:09
topyliC-O-L-T: \o/12:09
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polpak!info java-package12:09
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB12:09
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Andrew[CS] Andrew[CS]  I can only get 800 by 600 res :(12:09
Andrew[CS] Andrew[CS]  could u help me?12:09
C-O-L-Ttopyli: thanks for help12:09
dawidwhat cool apps would u guys suggest?12:09
polpakIdleOne, If you have multiverse enabled you should find it12:09
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Bergwhere can I enable multiuniverse?12:10
mwedawid: for what?12:10
IdleOnehmmm let me check again12:10
polpakIdleOne, you've done apt-get update12:10
topyliC-O-L-T: no problem, for what it was worth :)12:10
mykeanyone here use firewire drives12:10
dawiddunno, something interesting..12:10
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : sure, put your xorg.conf in the pastebin and I'll see what I can do. :)12:10
IdleOnepolpak,  no I havent12:10
crimsun!tell Berg about repos12:10
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mwedawid: quake412:10
C-O-L-Ttopyli: thanks and have a good night12:10
Andrew[CS] Andrew[CS]  and is "sudo apt-get install 'filename.deb' " how to installl a .deb?12:10
dawidwhere12:10
polpakIdleOne, you need to do apt-get update when you change your repos12:10
kameronMotoko-Chan would it be best just to install x86 ubuntu on this system, so i don't have to hassle with video support, etc?12:10
dawidCAN IT BE DONE???12:10
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_max_!tell Andrew[CS]  about fixres12:10
buellerI am in love with ubuntu12:10
polpakIdleOne, with sudo obviously12:10
mwedawid: what?12:10
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : nope, it's 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'12:10
mykecan someone help me please12:10
polpakdawid, ?12:10
Motoko-chankameron, might be for now.12:10
_max_gah.. does the bot pm me aswell everytime i !tell someone ;p12:10
_max_bleh.12:11
Motoko-chanIf you need win32 codecs, yes.12:11
mykewhen i connect it to the system it doesent detect it12:11
mwe_max_: yeah it sucks12:11
IdleOnepolpak,  apt- get update is done12:11
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : Or 'sudo apt-get install filename'12:11
kameronMotoko-Chan anything in the works to get more amd64 repositories going on?12:11
polpakIdleOne, ok, now try12:11
Andrew[CS] umm ok?12:11
crimsunmyke: did you search the forum for hints?12:11
buelleris it possible to take in cat5 then adhoc a wap from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it12:11
_max_free~myke: define "detect"12:11
Motoko-chanThat isn't the problem.12:11
kemikjust keep the ubotu pmdialog open ;)12:11
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dawidquake 4 and doom 3? on linux?12:11
IdleOnecouldnt find java-package12:11
polpakdawid, sure12:11
mwedawid: yeah12:11
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : One is if you downloaded teh .deb file, the other is if you want to get it from the repository and have it installed automatically.12:11
Motoko-chanThe problem is that no one has gotten all the 64-bit codecs packaged up.12:11
_max_free~dawid: ID have native support for linux <312:12
Motoko-chanOr that they even exist.12:12
mykewhen i plug a usb drive in it auto mounts it and puts a link on the desktop12:12
mwedawid: most id games work in linux12:12
dawidhow, no emu?12:12
polpakIdleOne, ok, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst12:12
Andrew[CS] ok ty12:12
mwedawid: no native12:12
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : np :)12:12
Andrew[CS] sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'12:12
mwedawid: google icculus12:12
Storkmepolpak, i had an error resizing the first partition :|12:12
dawidah so where can i get this version of q4?12:12
mykebut i dont know the command to see if the system even sees the firewire drivwe12:12
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mwedawid: google icculus12:12
rjbVLC player is pretty good at multimedia codecs12:12
mykeyes i searched the forum12:12
paladinewwhat us the best program to manage my finances ???12:12
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polpakStorkme, yeah. I have had that issue with the breezy live cd also12:12
mwedawid: you know how to do that, right?12:12
_max_dawid : of your quake4 cd.. theres docu on the net on how to install it.12:12
rjbit grokked every .avi i threw at it12:12
polpakStorkme, I eventually had to use Knoppix to resize my windows partition12:13
mykeanyone12:13
buelleris it possible to take in cat5 then adhoc a wap from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it12:13
Storkmepolpak, what should i do then?12:13
butcherbirdmyke: what was problem?12:13
polpakStorkme, but I think the breezy install disk will also let you resize12:13
polpakStorkme, and that seems to work ok12:13
mweworks great12:13
dawidokay cool12:13
mykei cant get my external firewire to work12:13
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_max_myke : check dmesg if it tells you some usefull info, never used a firewire drive, id assume if you have no s-ata drive it would be /dev/sda12:13
Storkmeoh ok, it's just, last time i tried that i messed up my hdd12:13
polpakStorkme, well12:13
paladinewDoesn anyone know what the best free application similar to Quicken would be for ubuntu ?12:14
Berghey...well can anyone just join #helpberg to help me12:14
polpakStorkme, if you're concerned, get the knoppix CD and use that to resize your ntfs partition12:14
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mweBerg: what's wrong with this room?12:14
buelleris it possible to take in cat5 then adhoc a wap from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it12:14
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Storkmepolpak, what's a noppix cd?12:14
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mweBerg: then ask here12:14
mykei dont see anything in dmesg12:14
kameronMotoko-Chan dang. anything i can do to help the process?12:14
Bergok12:14
polpak!knoppix12:14
ubotupolpak: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:14
polpakoh12:14
polpakhrm12:14
buelleris it possible to take in cat5 at this pc then adhoc a wap  from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it12:14
polpakone sec12:14
mweBerg: maybe someone else could benefit12:15
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polpakStorkme, it's like a live CD12:15
Storkmepolpak, bah, cd's are not my forte12:15
Motoko-chankameron, bug the mplayer people. They maintain win32codecs12:15
Andrew[CS] how do i link to it if its on desktop12:15
polpakStorkme, but it's a different distro. It's not very good. But the partition editor works12:15
dawidim sorry but at http://icculus.org/projects/ i can find only a quake 3 project12:15
butcherbirdmyke: try maybe ls -t /dev | head and try to mount the /dev/whatever it responds with12:15
Telemachuspaladinew: gnucash?12:15
Cpt_VimesN00bQuestion: Is there a good (text)file-differ included in Ubuntu?12:15
mwedawid: yes12:15
yggdrasilmwe so is this bunk ?12:16
yggdrasilhttp://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_(Breezy_Badger)12:16
kameronMotoko-Chan will do12:16
buelleri have two netcards one cat5 one wireless....cat5 is primary...i'd like to make it an ad-hoc wap12:16
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : Link to what?12:16
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Dreamgliderwhy wont this mount my iso files ? -> http://pastebin.com/49417112:16
Andrew[CS] like, the path name12:16
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rjbhmm where is the info about howto run flashplayer under amd64? i'm sure i've seen it somewhere but can't find it now12:16
paladinewtelemachus: thank you, now how do I install it?  I've tried adding it and also doing apt-get, but doesnt work12:16
Bergalright...my resolution is so large that I can almost not do anything and to make it bigger I need to install the driver. BUT when I try to open the .exe files on the CD's I use to intall the drivers it wont let me...now you tell me to activate something and I get some links which I cant read because of the resolution so can anyone give me a step by step guide on how to get theese .exe files going12:16
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PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : ~/Desktop/filename12:16
Andrew[CS] ok thx12:16
dawidmwe : so how do install quake 4 then if theres only a quake 312:16
mwedawid: here's a link to quake4 for linux: http://www.google.com/search?q=quake4+linux12:16
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yggdrasilman this # moves fast12:16
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mykebutcherbird what do u mean?12:16
mykei did that and didnt get a dev12:16
Telemachuspaladinew: should be able to : sudo apt-get install gnucash12:17
polpakStorkme, http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD-2005-09-23-EN.iso12:17
paddygmanhey all was tryin to install jre java and got an error back "E: libapache-mod-tsunami: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"12:17
paddygmananyone any help??12:17
Andrew[CS] still not working12:17
polpakStorkme, just download that and burn it to CD like you did the Breezy ISO then reboot12:17
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Bergwhat do I do?12:17
buellerhey what was the syntaxt for replacing the xorg conf file....for my notes12:17
Andrew[CS] sais cannot access archive: no such file or directory12:18
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polpakStorkme, I dunno why the Breezy Live CD doesn't work for resizing, but I've tried it on 3 different machines, and no luck12:18
Bergwhat do I do to get .exe fiels rnning?12:18
butcherbirdmyke: is this a external hard drive?12:18
paddygmanhey all was tryin to install jre java and got an error back "E: libapache-mod-tsunami: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"12:18
paddygmananyone any help??12:18
Storkmepolpak, that's a shame. although for a note, i suck at burning cd's, which is why i had them mailed to me :p12:18
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : What exactly are you trying to do, and what command are you using?12:19
mykebutcherbird yes it is a IEEE1394 drive12:19
phos-phorosBerg, use wine12:19
polpakStorkme, oh12:19
mweBerg: you can't run exe files in linux. wine will however run a few12:19
polpakStorkme, you just need the right app12:19
Andrew[CS] im trying to install the new version of amsn12:19
polpakStorkme,  for windows yes?12:19
butcherbirdmyke: been using it in windows or on a mac?12:19
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Andrew[CS] im using the "terminal"12:19
mykeit worked on dows12:19
Bergso how do I intall my drivers if I cant run the .exe files that open the,12:19
Berg*them12:19
mweBerg: you can't install windows drivers in linux12:20
Andrew[CS] sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'12:20
Andrew[CS] uh12:20
Bergthen am I screwed?12:20
phos-phorosyou need to download the non .exe drivers, such as tar.gz, .deb, etc12:20
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Andrew[CS] user@Andrew-ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i ~/desktop/amsn_0.95-1.deb12:20
Andrew[CS]      **12:20
mweBerg: no you install linux drivers instead12:20
Bergwhere can I do that?12:20
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Storkmepolpak, i'm too poor for windows12:20
TelemachusBerg: what are you trying to install12:20
butcherbirdmyke: the 'ls -t /dev | head' i would think would respond with an sda or sdb like sdb1 if device is pugged in12:20
Bergmy graphics driver12:20
polpakStorkme, ok, well what OS do you have12:20
phos-phorosBerg, more than likely the same site where you downloaded the .exes12:20
Bergand everything else12:20
mweBerg: what card12:20
polpakStorkme, that works12:20
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phos-phorosfromthe manufacturer's website12:21
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : I think it's 'Desktop' and case-sensitive, so try replacing it with a capital 'D'12:21
Storkmepolpak, ubuntu 64-bit, i have 32-bit though12:21
mweBerg: everything else? so nothing works?12:21
Motoko-chankameron, one other thing on win32codecs.12:21
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Andrew[CS] k12:21
kameronMotoko-Chan yes12:21
jahshua--hey is there a commad for me to check what keyboard setup im using?12:21
dawidlovely... Warcraft III Is running in wine12:21
mweBerg: how can you type anything if nothing works?12:21
Bergwell I did not download them I got them on a CD12:21
Motoko-chanAt the very least, it seems mplayer uses some wine code to hook the codecs.12:21
polpakStorkme, are you currently in ubuntu?12:21
jahshua--ie..us/international.british etc12:21
Motoko-chanAnd wine is 32-bit only too.12:21
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julio_hi mans12:21
jahshua--i think its british12:21
polpakStorkme, and not on a live CD?12:21
julio_i have one webcam12:21
Andrew[CS] uh12:21
Andrew[CS] yes, thats it12:21
Andrew[CS] thank you12:21
mweBerg: the installer takes care of installing most drivers for you12:21
julio_how can i config it?12:21
Motoko-chanSo even updating to 64-bit codec files might not work.12:21
Storkmepolpak, no, but i'm going to fuck 64-bit and reformat and install 32bit12:21
mweBerg: then for 3d you need another driver12:21
phos-phorosha ha12:21
julio_hi people12:22
BergI dont have a card12:22
julio_who can help-me?12:22
kameronStorkme: i'm about to do the same thing12:22
polpakStorkme, ok.. So to clarify. There isn't anything on your disk that you need12:22
yggdrasilanyon ehere have e17 running ?12:22
BergI just need to intall my grpahics driver12:22
kameronMotoko-chan shiatttt. alright. reinstall.12:22
Motoko-chanjulio_, just ask your question12:22
phos-phorosso Ubuntu x64 is buggy as all get out, or what?12:22
Motoko-chankameron, hehe12:22
Storkmepolpak, besides my settings, not really12:22
julio_i have one webcam, how can i config it?12:22
mweBerg: so you do have other drivers installed? I guess or you couldn't boot12:22
Motoko-chanThis is what happens with closed source.12:22
Telemachusjahshua--: top toolbar> System> preferences> keyboard> Layout tab12:22
mweBerg: what card12:22
polpakphos-phoros, there are issues with some drivers and certain apps12:22
BergI do12:22
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mweBerg: what card12:22
mweBerg: what card12:22
BergIDK12:22
Berg!12:22
ubotuBerg: I don't know, could you explain it?12:22
Motoko-chanCan't even support Indeo2 in Windows anymore.12:22
Motoko-chan(16-bit codec)12:22
mykemyke@ubuntu:~$ ls -t /dev | head12:22
mykeptmx12:22
mykexconsole12:22
myketty12:22
mykelog12:22
myketty612:22
Berghow?12:22
myketty412:23
jahshua--Telemachus: thanks12:23
julio_How can i config my webcam???????12:23
myketty112:23
BergI got it from DELL12:23
myketty212:23
myketty312:23
myketty512:23
mykemyke@ubuntu:~$12:23
Bergwhere can I find the name of it12:23
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polpakStorkme, well if you are planning to reformat anyway. Just boot off the install cd, and use the installation process to partition and format your drive12:23
Bergit takes awhile to get used to ubuntu12:23
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Darky469lo12:23
Andrew[CS] guhhh12:23
mweBerg: yeah12:23
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : ?12:23
julio_hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! xD How can i config my webcam?12:23
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sedekijulio_ what webcam do you have?12:23
Bergso where can I find the name of the driver from my computer12:23
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Andrew[CS] dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amsn:12:23
Andrew[CS] amsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:12:23
Andrew[CS]   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.12:23
julio_hm.. wait moment12:23
Darky469anyone  knows  how  to get  the realplayer 10 working ?12:23
mweBerg: you need to find the name of your hardware not the name of the drivers12:24
julio_Yoyo webcam.. HEDY12:24
Bergwell can I do that from my computer?12:24
paddygmanhey all was tryin to install jre java and got an error back "E: libapache-mod-tsunami: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"12:24
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mweBerg: is it booted into ubuntu or what?12:24
paddygmananyone any help??12:24
Andrew[CS] can i go into the package manager thing and find something there?12:24
Bergand by that you mean?12:24
julio_sedeki12:24
julio_YOYO WEBCAM... HEDY12:24
julio_sedeki: YOYO WEBCAM... HEDY12:25
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Andrew[CS] !libstdc++612:25
ubotuWish i knew, Andrew[CS] 12:25
navaroneBerg are you running ubuntu as we speak or are you currently using windows?12:25
StorkmeChuck Norris is not hung like a horse... horses are hung like Chuck Norris12:25
polpakpaddygman, looks like you tried removing something and the removal didn't go quite right12:25
mweBerg: is ubuntu running on the machine now?12:25
kameronhow much of a performance loss is there in running x86 instead of amd64 on an amd64 system? i don't really care, just wondering, any kind of ballpark figure out there?12:25
Andrew[CS] oh...12:25
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PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : yes, but that's the latest that's in the repository for breezy12:25
BergI am using ubuntu12:25
TelemachusBerg: open a terminal and type -  lspci12:25
Bergwhere can I open a terminal?12:25
paddygmany/msg polpak have had it on before12:25
Andrew[CS] so, no amsn 0.95 for me yet ? :(12:25
poningruBerg: applications->accessories12:26
navaroneBerg> Applications/Accessories/Terminal in top menu on desktop12:26
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pa_lis it possible to get shockwave on linux ubuntu breezy or one of the browsers12:26
polpakpaddygman, try sudo apt-get clean12:26
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julio_hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! xD How can i config my webcam?12:26
Bergthen what?12:26
TelemachusBerg: top menubar > Applications> System Tools> Terminal12:26
Bergyeah12:26
poningrupa_l: no12:26
Bergthen what?12:26
Andrew[CS] julio12:26
mweBerg: then type lspci on the prompt and look for you video card12:26
julio_hi12:26
Bergok12:26
pa_lomg12:26
Andrew[CS] hi12:26
navaroneBerg then type lspci and enter12:26
mweI told him12:26
julio_how can i config my webcam?12:26
sedekijulio_ did you check the manufacturers homepage?12:27
sedekifor drivers?12:27
navaronemwe you are too quick...<s>12:27
mwenavarone: however you go ahead and help him12:27
TelemachusBerg: look for VGA controller12:27
julio_yes.. but there dont have =/12:27
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Bergalright...my resolution is so large that I can almost not do anything and to make it bigger I need to install the driver. BUT when I try to open the .exe files on the CD's I use to intall the drivers it wont let me...now you tell me to activate something and I get some links which I cant read because of the resolution so can anyone give me a step by step guide on how to get theese .exe files going12:27
Andrew[CS] uh... now i cant even run the old version12:27
Bergoops12:27
AndyRlo all12:27
Bergok12:27
Darky469does  anyone  knows  how  to get  realplayer 10  working on unbuntu12:27
polpak!realplayer12:27
ubotuI heard realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:27
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Motoko-chanBerg, .exe is a windows executable.12:28
Motoko-chanNot Linux.12:28
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mwenavarone: I don't know if he needs 3d or what since he wants to install a driver for the video card. dont know if his card supports 3d12:28
buellergoing through steps to install unfree formats got error in pastebin12:28
BergI know that now12:28
yggdrasildarky i wann know that too12:28
yggdrasil!realplayer12:28
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ubotufrom memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:28
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mwenavarone: have him fix xorg.conf instead12:28
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kcantinI had to step away for a sec12:28
Motoko-chanDo you know what card you have?12:28
Motoko-chanBrand-wise?12:28
Bergthis is what I found12:28
sedekijulio_ try the philips module12:28
BergMultimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)12:28
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julio_??12:28
poningrubueller: link to the pastebin?12:28
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-4.0/ has a later version of the missing library, but I gotta warn you - mixing different distributions' libraries can cause massive pains later on12:28
julio_!tell julio about webcam12:29
kcantinI have 2 questions....first, can anyone please help me connect to my windows network?12:29
mweBerg: yeah that's the sound card12:29
Darky469i did  everything  it says  at  realplayer site12:29
sedekijulio_ It's called 'pwc'12:29
Berg:(12:29
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Motoko-chanThat is the audio card.12:29
Darky469but  it diden't work12:29
buelleri have it in pastebin12:29
mweBerg: the audio you know12:29
PuMpErNiCkLeAndrew[CS] : So if you really want the new version of amsn, you can try the .deb from the link, but I don't recommend it very much. :)12:29
Bergfound it12:29
buellerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670212:29
BergVGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)12:29
kcantinLinux rOcKs but, I jus can't seem to get this accomplished12:29
Motoko-chanIntel Integrated.12:29
mweBerg: that's good but does it do accelerated 3d?12:29
Bergmaybe?12:30
Telemachusi81012:30
Bergit can do 3D12:30
crimsunnot reasonably12:30
sedekijulio_ type 'sudo -c "modprobe pwc" '12:30
Andrew[CS] ok... what kinda stuff will it do later on?12:30
Bergit worked with XP12:30
Motoko-chanIt is Intel Extreme.12:30
kcantinI get an error that I do not have permissions to access the windows network12:30
Motoko-chanShould do 3D.12:30
crimsun"extreme"ly slowly.12:30
poningrubueller: did you enable multiverse?12:30
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Bergwell no12:30
TelemachusBerg: its fine for running ubuntu12:30
navaroneBerg...it would help if you could find your xorg.conf file and copy and paste it to pastebin so we can see what we are working with in config12:30
Bergk12:30
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Andrew[CS] plus can i tell this to cut, copy and paste with the windows commands (x,c,v)12:30
polpakDarky469, you don't have to go to realplayers site12:30
Bergwhere it that12:30
polpakDarky469, just read the wiki12:30
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mweBerg: you wanna fix your resolution problem first12:30
buellerthe wiki said my syntaxt was alternative to multi install12:30
Motoko-chanThe video driver should be i81012:31
Darky469oke  will try that12:31
Bergright12:31
Andrew[CS] !keyboard commands12:31
ubotuAndrew[CS] : Are you on ritalin?12:31
Andrew[CS] ?12:31
navaroneBerg...it is in folder /etc/X1112:31
Darky469 thx  polpak12:31
Andrew[CS] !hotkeys12:31
ubotuAndrew[CS] : I don't know12:31
Motoko-chan/etc/X11/xorg.conf12:31
poningrubueller: I would use synaptic if you are uncomfortable with command line12:31
Andrew[CS] oh12:31
poningrubueller: what page in the wiki?12:31
kcantinOther questions is.....can I connect to ubuntu with using RDT or Terminal services?12:31
buelleri prefer command line, being a newb i figure it is the best way to get grounded in gnu/linux12:31
Bergcan I maybe first get a link to the thing that intalls my driver?12:31
Motoko-chankcantin, System / Preferences / Remote Desktop12:31
buellerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:32
Motoko-chanBerg, video driver is installed already.12:32
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navaroneBerg...you may just need to edit config file to properly recognize the video chips capabilities12:32
poningrubueller: ok did you enable multiverse in sources.list?12:32
mweBerg: fix the resolution first is my advice. then try to get 3d accel working12:32
buellerim attempting to enable mp3 and dvd playback12:32
TelemachusBerg: the driver is already there, it just needs to be configured to use it12:32
jahshua--ok12:32
jahshua--time to boot into slackware :)12:32
jahshua--enough of this i say!12:32
buellerponigru nope12:32
Berghow can I configure it?12:32
polpakbueller, yeah, but it's nice to have a pretty background while you hack on the command line.. That's what GUI's are for.. =)12:32
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Motoko-chanjahshua--, indeed12:32
mwe!fixres12:32
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:32
Bergme?12:32
buellerhow do i reply to a user in with redtext12:32
Andrew[CS] how do i find out all the specks of the machine without tearing it apart, like the graphics and stuff12:32
polpakAndrew[CS] , lspci12:33
buellergui's can be so sticky though12:33
Motoko-chanAndrew[CS] , lspci, lsusb12:33
Andrew[CS] "!fixres" doesn't help me12:33
julio_how can i go to my foder /etc/apt/ with the KDE?12:33
buellerkinda gooey12:33
butcherbirdBerg: if i understand video and res is fine just 3d accel problem?12:33
mweBerg: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the console12:33
Andrew[CS] and neither does "lspci"12:33
poningru!tell bueller about multiverse12:33
mwebutcherbird: no12:33
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julio_julio_ how can i go to my foder /etc/apt/ with the KDE?12:33
Andrew[CS] do i type that in command?12:33
Motoko-chanbueller, keep them away from water and you should be fine. No melting.12:33
butcherbirdwell nm them :)12:33
mwebutcherbird: his resolution is screwed12:33
polpakAndrew[CS] , yes12:33
Andrew[CS] ok12:33
buellerhahaha12:33
jahshua--Motoko-cha: you gonna do it wirh me? :)12:33
Bergwhere is the console? the terminal?12:34
Andrew[CS] thanks12:34
polpakBerg, terminal will work12:34
mwebutcherbird: and he has an intel exreme card12:34
Telemachuscan he not just dpkg-reconfigure <xfree package name>12:34
Motoko-chanjahshua--, already done on 8 servers and two workstatoins12:34
mweBerg: right12:34
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crimsunxserver-xorg12:34
Motoko-chanBerg, Applications / Accessories / Terminal12:34
jahshua--Motoko-cha: nice :D its my first time !12:34
Motoko-chanjahshua--, on Slack?12:34
jahshua--yep12:34
Berg/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root12:34
jahshua--im about to b00t12:34
Motoko-chanAh.12:34
Motoko-chanBeen on it since 9.2 or so12:34
jahshua--awesome12:35
vesHi folks, is there anyway to check what version a package is in apt before installing it?12:35
Bergthis is what I got: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root12:35
foxinessi have this error with apt-get "http://to/path/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" after the line -connection- disconnection wheel the apt-get download this file,and i do some search with google but i can not find solve for this problem and i can download it by wget,how can help me around this, please?12:35
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foxinesshi12:35
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julio_!tell julio about webcam12:35
msg43Hi12:35
mweBerg: yeah as I said type sudo in front of the command12:35
beauhey, how would i go about installing a virtual machine program so I can run windows XP on my ubuntu system as well?12:35
msg43How can I get the kernel tree?12:35
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TelemachusBerg:         sudo  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:35
mweBerg: that will run it as super user12:35
poningruves: apt-cache showpkg foobar12:35
msg43I'm assuming I'd need headers or source though what package i s that called?12:35
iKrnelmsg43: You need to download the kernel source, if that's what you're asking.12:36
foxinessmsg43, apt-get install tree12:36
vesponingru: awesome, cheers man12:36
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poningruves: yep12:36
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navaroneBerg this pastebin entry has an xorh.conf file that specifies your video chip...Take a look at it and compare it with yours...or copy and paste yours to pastebin so that we can compare them as well http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/603312:36
msg43I need it for the orinoco usb cvs12:36
poningrufoxiness: what exactly is the prob?12:36
beauhey, how would i go about installing a virtual machine program so I can run windows XP on my ubuntu system as well?12:36
poningruyou need a certain pkg?12:36
iKrnelThey should make a kernel-devel pacakge, so that people don't need to download whole kernel sources just to compile some drivers.12:37
poningru!tell beau about xen12:37
foxinessmsg43, apt-get install linux-tree-'uname -r'12:37
poningru!tel beau about qemu12:37
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, poningru12:37
poningruwtf12:37
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msg43iKrnel, uname -r says i have 2.6.12 I can't seem to find the source in apt for 2.1212:37
crimsunlinux-tree-2.6.12, not $(uname -r)12:37
mwesomeone spoon feed Berg a bit for me. I'm getting tired12:37
navaronetell* maybe poningru12:37
kameronmwe: lollerskates12:37
poningrudoh12:38
crimsuniKrnel: you don't need -source-2.6.12 to compile drivers.12:38
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poningru!qemu12:38
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=112:38
beautell me again =)12:38
msg43crimsun, thanks seems to be getting it know12:38
beauk12:38
msg43*now12:38
msg43I'm tryin ot get a 2wire wireless usb card to work12:38
mwedo you guys find qemu usable? It ran so slow here I gave up using it. even with kqemu enabled12:38
beauwhats better, xen or qemu?12:38
msg43It for my sisters12:38
poningrubeau: your choice :)12:38
beauxen has been getting a lot of attention lately12:38
crimsunmwe: even with the binary-only accelerator module?12:38
mwecrimsun: right12:38
tahorgwindows runs on xen ?12:39
poningrubeau: I have personally never used either of them12:39
mwecrimsun: the qemu console confirmed it was loaded12:39
beauok12:39
omoiosfrom wav to mp3 an easy way for gnome desktop?12:39
poningrubeau: if you are just trying to run windows there is always wine12:39
beauwell12:39
beautried12:39
beaubuti cant get it to run photoshop cs212:39
beauI use gimp when I can, but cs2 just has more features that i need12:39
poningrubeau: why dont you just dualboot?12:39
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beaubecause it's annoying :)12:40
polpak<3 gimp12:40
_SD_Keoalo =)12:40
Telemachusbeau: I always use vmware.....but its not free :(12:40
beau<3 gimp too but I need some things in photoshop12:40
poningrubeau: hehe12:40
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beautele: vmware is for win right?12:40
poningrubeau: yeah gimp isnt there yet12:40
mwecrimsun: googling around revealed very varied succes by using the kqemu module. from almost no performance gain to like boosting by a factor 1012:40
_SD_KeoWho was it that told me stem desktop was a good hoice for older hardware?12:40
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Telemachusbeau: Yes its excellent12:40
beaugimp is getting there there poningru12:40
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poningruyeah true12:40
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beauwell I was hoping to keep linux as my main OS, and then just run WinXP to run a couple apps I really need12:41
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msg43crimsun, were is the tree located?12:41
beauI like wine but it doesn't always work and doesn' tseem to like CS212:41
beaui'll check out xen, thanks a lot guys12:41
crimsunmsg43: the tarballs and dirs are in /usr/src/12:41
_SD_Keobeau, cedega, if you want to pay for it12:41
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msg43crimsun, ok thanks12:42
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navaronebeau...that is what I do basically...ubuntu I use for internet use exclusively cos it is just safer12:42
Telemachusbeau: no worries...there are free evals of vmware if you want to test it12:42
beauTele: thanks, i'll look into it for sure12:42
mwecrimsun: I went the vmware player hack way instead. it works great12:42
_SD_Keogah bitchx is a horrid IRC client.. brb12:42
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Andrew[CS] pumpernickel it doesn't have it it seems... and what would be so bad about doing it, what would it do later?12:43
IdleOnelow fat BitchX is tatsy12:43
bob832is it possible to change the date/time through the command line?12:43
mwebob832: yes12:43
TCTCHhey there.....is anybody able to play midi on ubuntu??12:43
mwebob832: the date commaned will do it12:43
Andrew[CS] whats the date command12:44
kemikcrimsun:  shouldnt alsa-oss get skype to work with soundmixing ?12:44
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crimsunTCTCH: I've used timidity.12:44
bob832mwe:  lol didn't realize it would be that easy12:44
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haikehi12:44
crimsunkemik: generally, no.12:44
bob832thanks12:44
Andrew[CS] pumpernickel ?12:44
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Telemachusdate MMDDhhmm12:44
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mwebob832: it's not. the syntax sucks and I have to look it up everytime I use it12:44
crimsunkemik: if it works, it's because something's broken12:44
poningruhello haike12:44
kemikcrimsun:  hmm, why doesnt that work ?12:44
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kemikdamn this soundsystem is a real PITA ;)12:44
haikehi poningru12:44
midzaubuntu.de12:44
crimsunkemik: because of the way Skype apparently uses OSS{/Free}12:44
TCTCHcrimsun: is it in the original reposity?12:44
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crimsun!info timidity12:45
ubotutimidity: (Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player)), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.13.2-6ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 532 kB, Installed size: 1704 kB12:45
shootersIs there a way to do a script that would look for a string in a file, and if it finds it, simply delete the file...12:45
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TCTCHcrimsun: dont I have to configure my midi output?12:45
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khermansmwe, date 2006010622:2212:45
mweshooters: yes12:45
butcherbirdshooters: python is great for stuff like that12:45
poningrushooters: what do you mean in a file?12:45
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crimsunTCTCH: there are instructions online under the midi docs at alsa.opensrc.org12:45
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navaronewb Berg12:45
poningrushooters: nm12:45
kemikick :(12:45
mweshooters: sed -i 's/removeme//g' file.txt12:45
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kemikbetter mail skype developers :)12:46
midzahow can speak german12:46
bob832mwe: yeah, i see, according to Telemachus's example12:46
shooterslook for the string "File not found" (I'm downloading some pages from a website)12:46
TCTCHcrimsun: uhu....looks quite complicated12:46
poningru!de12:46
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de12:46
Andrew[CS] so who knows how to get to another server from xchat?12:46
buellerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6704    while attempting to update mulit-and-universe12:46
buellergot errors12:46
kemikAndrew[CS] :  /connect servername12:46
TCTCHcrimsun: isnt there a wiki how do make it in ubuntu enable?12:46
Andrew[CS] ok...12:46
kemikAndrew[CS] :  ctrl-t opens a new tab12:46
IdleOneAnders,  /server you.server.ofchoice12:46
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poningruAndrew[CS] : press ctrl+t and then type /server irc.servername.org12:46
msg43make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found12:47
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msg43Why is that happinging?12:47
berg_I am back12:47
IdleOneopps i meant Andrew[CS] 12:47
berg_something weird12:47
kemikguess /connect was mirc then ;Z12:47
mwemsg43: gcc-3.4 is not installed I guess12:47
kemikor irssi12:47
kemikwhatever :)12:47
berg_I typed that thing in the terminal12:47
msg43mwe, yeah I have 4.012:47
msg43so how do I fix it12:47
berg_and this gray screen came12:47
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mwemsg43: what are you trying to do?12:47
berg_and it asked me theese questions12:47
kemikmsg43:  sudo apt-get install build-essential12:47
msg43mwe, compile orinoco source12:47
kemikmsg43:  it seems you don not have the compiler12:47
msg43kemik, that how I got gcc-4.012:47
globeIs anybody else having problems with macromedia flash movies displaying properly in ff?  I cant see any fonts at all....12:47
buellergot errors12:48
berg_then once that was done the screen turned all black12:48
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mwemsg43: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.412:48
buellerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670412:48
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jahshua--hey can someone please tell me the command to check how much RAM i have ??12:48
poningruglobe: its a known prob12:48
kemikmsg43:  well, either hax the Makefile, or apt-get gcc-3.412:48
Andrew[CS] its not doing anything12:48
berg_and then it opened my DOS prompt or something12:48
poningruglobe: I think the solution was installing mscorefont12:48
riddleboxjahshua-- free12:48
poningrudont remember12:48
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IdleOneAndrew[CS] ,  what server do you want?12:48
poningru!tell globe about font12:48
globeponingru: can I apt-get that?12:48
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berg_and I could not do anything else12:48
poningruglobe: yep12:48
Andrew[CS] archspace...12:48
msg43ok12:48
mwesomeone help berg_ out. He's completely lost12:48
poningruglobe: search for the exact package name12:49
globeponingru: thanks!12:49
msg43I hate wireless cards that are a pain the ass to get working12:49
berg_:(12:49
IdleOneAndrew[CS] ,  type /server irc.archspace.com12:49
buelleranyone have some clues regarding my inabiltiy to update multiverse and universe?12:49
Andrew[CS] irc.archspace.org12:49
IdleOneor .net12:49
IdleOneok .org12:49
berg_my mom is kinda also getting pissed12:49
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Telemachusberg_: and what did you enter when it asked you questions?12:49
berg_I said OK12:49
Andrew[CS] i did it and it didn't do anything12:49
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Andrew[CS] wait12:49
mweTelemachus: wrong info apparently :)12:49
Andrew[CS] someone else said connect sorry12:50
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Telemachusmwe: lol12:50
iKrnelEep... ubuntu does come preconfigured with some kind of security, doesn't it?12:50
crimsuniKrnel: clarify?12:50
kcantinok, anyone able to asssit me in connecting to my windows network?12:50
berg_it asked me about the mouse and the hardware and it found the best compatable programs and such but then it turned black12:50
vb_coderhow can i completely remove the kernel that came with ubuntu including all of the packages with it and just use the new one i updated to?12:50
buellerrebooting12:50
polpakiKrnel, how do you mean?12:50
poningrubueller: did you need help with multiverse?12:50
buellerponigru yes12:50
topyliwhat's the best way to upload pictures to flickr on linux?12:50
kemiki guess he means there's no need for a fw since no services are running12:50
crimsunvb_coder: why remove it? Just update-grub and reboot into your preferred one.12:50
kemik?12:50
navaronemwe...i found doing the reconfigure xserver thing to solve a display problem caused more problems than it solved. I lost mouse and keyboard trying it that way. editting xorg.conf directly seems easier to me12:51
kameronokay well, im uninstalling amd64, installing x86. WISH ME LUCK12:51
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IdleOnekcantin,  windows network wizzard can help you with that12:51
ColonelPaniquevb_coder : don't remove it! you may need it someday!12:51
iKrnelpolpak: Like, SELinux?12:51
poningrubueller: ok heres what you should do12:51
buellerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670412:51
polpakiKrnel, no, it doesn't have SELinux enabled12:51
buellerk12:51
mwenavarone: ok. please help berg out with it then :)12:51
Telemachusberg_: can you open another terminal12:51
foxinessponingru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6706 ,this error happen after i deavtive my conn wheel the apt-get loading the index of universe12:51
berg_k12:51
mwenavarone: he's completely lost12:51
iKrnelpolpak: ah... dammn. I need to enable it quickly...12:51
poningrubueller: hold on12:52
polpakiKrnel, why?12:52
berg_done12:52
buellernp12:52
navaroneberg> what are you able to see and do presently? Do you have full screen desktop adn use of mouse?12:52
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berg_my screen is not full and I can use the mouse12:52
berg_when I minimize programs I cant open them again12:52
poningrubueller: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:52
iKrnelpolpak: Some guy reckons he can "hack" me12:52
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crimsunyou really want ``gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list''12:52
poningrubueller: replace the entire thing with the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604712:52
mweponingru: have him back it up first :)12:53
buellerponigru in term?12:53
poningrumwe: he already borked it12:53
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Telemachusberg_:  press the up arrow until you get to your dpkg-reconfigure command12:53
polpakiKernel, I find that unlikely since ubuntu doesn't listen to the outside world by default either12:53
CanadianSnowok12:53
mweponingru: I see :)12:53
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cafuegoiKernel: I bet that makes him feel really smart.12:53
poningrubueller: what does that mean? in term12:53
berg_then it asks for a password12:53
CanadianSnowso in the server list, how do I specifiy a port to use for xchat12:53
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buellerin a terminal window?12:53
berg_yeah12:53
poningrubueller: yep12:53
poningruerr12:53
buellerok12:53
iKernelcafuego: I don't think he really understands how hard it is to crack a linux system.12:53
Telemachusberg_: okay type your password12:53
poningrubueller: when you do sudo gedit ... it should open up a gedit window12:54
polpakiKernel, particularly one that doesn't listen to the outside world12:54
cafuegoiKernel: Well, depending on the system it can be trivially easy (redhat 6 :-)12:54
CanadianSnowaka text12:54
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CanadianSnowanyways12:54
navaroneberg type cd /etc/X11 and enter in terminal12:54
berg_done12:54
polpakiKernel, I don't think you need to go to the trouble of SELinux12:54
CanadianSnowhow do i tell it what ports to use?12:54
iKernelcafuego: heh heh...12:54
cafuegoiKernel: But a default Ubuntu install? Not likely.12:54
berg_now the grey screen comes12:54
CanadianSnow!port12:54
ubotuCanadianSnow: Not a clue12:54
CanadianSnow!ports12:54
ubotuCanadianSnow: Bugger all, i dunno12:54
CanadianSnowuh12:54
navaroneOkay...I will wait for Telemachus ...too many people trying to help at once...lol12:54
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CanadianSnownavarone, do you know12:55
CanadianSnow?12:55
Telemachusnavarone: you welcome to take over :)12:55
navaroneknow what?12:55
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Comrade_Sergeiwhere can i go for ebay supprot and dont say #ebay cause theres noone there12:55
iKernelpolpak: What do you mean by "doesn't listen to the outside world"? He could sneak in port 80, couldn't he?12:55
CanadianSnowhow to specify a port to use12:55
cafuegoiKernel: See?12:55
poningrubueller: did it work?12:55
berg_....12:55
polpakiKernel, did you install apache?12:55
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Telemachusberg_: what do you have on your screen12:55
berg_-_-...I got the grey screen...12:56
CanadianSnowfor a server12:56
navaroneno Telemachus  go for it12:56
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navaroneCanadianSnow, a irc server?12:56
crimsuniKernel: no daemons installed by default listen on external interfaces12:56
mweiKernel: you can't "sneak in a port" if nothing is listening12:56
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iKernelpolpak: Maybe, but apparently it isn't running :)12:56
poningrumwe: whats the bogoactivation daemon12:56
CanadianSnowbecause my x-chat is using port 6667 trying to connect, which doesn't work (for other irc server) and i dont know how to change it12:56
cafuegoiKernel: Ubuntu *only* listens for connections if you explicitly install the software to do so. Even then, the packaged apache is unlikely to contains exploits only this (dalnet?) person knows about.12:56
iKernelmwe: point taken.12:56
poningruanyone actually ^^^12:56
liableCanadianSnow: in the config file for whatever service it is.12:56
CanadianSnowwheres that12:57
berg_anything>12:57
berg_anything?12:57
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buellerworking...im keeping notes of all my systme configureation journey's i think it will make a good novel12:57
poningrubueller: hehe true12:57
Telemachusberg_: I assume that is just in the terminal you ran the dpkg-reconfigure on....or are you using irc on a diffrent computer?12:57
buellerok going to terminal now12:57
navaroneCanadianSnow, when you type /server <servername> <port nuumber> <-- usually 6667 but can be 6668-9 etc12:57
berg_I am using the IRC on my only comp12:57
iKernelcafuego: Somehow, I don't think this guy uses his own tools. I think he just downloads "hacking" tools off the internet.12:57
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berg_its a small grey screen12:57
polpakiKernel, which makes him even less likely to succeed12:58
iKernelpolpak: Yep.12:58
cafuegoiKernel: that's why I was guessing at dalnet ;-)12:58
berg_it also has some blue and black12:58
CanadianSnowbut if i do it thru the server list...12:58
Telemachusberg_: okay...so your whole screen obviously isn't grey12:58
berg_no12:58
Comrade_Sergeiwhere can i go for ebay supprot and dont say #ebay cause theres noone there12:58
iKernelcafuego: Nah, this guy is from school.12:58
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CanadianSnowit wont work automatically12:58
polpakiKernel, unless you installed a bunch of daemons you have nothing to worry about12:58
cafuegoiKernel: Oh dear :-)  I'd just ignore him.12:58
iKernelpolpak: Ok.12:58
CanadianSnowand then i'll have to join another server to get to a different one12:58
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navaroneComrade...i can tell you...and I'll start the bidding at $20...j/k <h'yuk>12:58
berg_it says at the top configuring xserver-Xorg12:59
iKernelcafuego: I reckon he's blocked me :D12:59
polpakiKernel, and even if you did install daemons it's doubtful any of them allow for remote exploits that he'd know about12:59
cafuegoiKernel: Maybe 'ping -s 1025' his windows box at some stage.12:59
Telemachusberg_: when you say the screen is grey what do you mean....just the terminal window that you typed dpkg-reconfigure?12:59
berg_no'12:59
berg_I mean yes12:59
berg_yes12:59
iKernelcafuego: Unfortuneatly, I don't know how to find out his ip address over the msn protocall.12:59
rambo3i mean no12:59
berg_definately12:59
Belboz99Hey, I'm having trouble using the audio I/O engine.  Audacity can't seem to intialize it, even though ALSA's running fine in all other apps12:59
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buellershould i reboot and try to play an mp3?12:59
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beau!vmware01:00
buellerponi?01:00
berg_should I press OK on the grey/black/blue screen?01:00
Unityanyone else having trouble connecting to the wiki?01:00
Belboz99Anyone else having trouble with Audacity and the audio I/O engine?01:01
Telemachusberg_: does the grey screen have text on it?01:01
berg_yes01:01
bueller!tell ponigru i did it should i reboot and attempt to plan an mp3?01:01
Telemachusberg_: what does it say?01:01
mweUnity: it loads here01:01
berg_it said I should use this if I want to find reccomended x server and x driver for my video card01:01
Unitymwe: odd01:01
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kcantinon luck, is there anyone that can help me connect to my windows network?01:01
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Belboz99kcantin, you need SAMBA01:02
polpakkcantin, my suggestion is to install smbfs and smb4k01:02
Telemachusberg_: okay...select no01:02
CanadianSnow!samba01:02
ubotuI heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently01:02
berg_I cant01:02
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berg_there is only one option01:02
berg_OK01:02
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CanadianSnowso01:02
berg_highlighted in red01:02
CanadianSnowya01:02
CanadianSnowabout this port thing?01:03
berg_...01:03
Telemachusberg_: right......press enter01:03
CanadianSnowanyone here use xchat01:03
iKernelShould be easy enough, I'll just traceroute 207.46.0.32:186301:03
berg_now it says attempt autodetect hardware?01:03
buellerhahahahahah mp3's work yippeeee!01:03
buellertytyty pnoigru01:03
Telemachusberg_: you selected no and pressed enter?01:03
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bungholehi01:04
berg_no I pressed enter01:04
buellershould dvd's play on appropriate hardware to?01:04
berg_there was only one option01:04
berg_OK01:04
poningruCanadianSnow: yeah I use xchat01:04
berg_now I can choose between yes and no01:04
poningrubueller: ?01:04
buellerit worked01:04
poningrubueller: cool01:04
buellershould dvds play too?01:04
Telemachusberg_: right......is it now asking if you want to autodetect01:05
polpak!dvd01:05
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages01:05
bungholeI finally installed ubuntu server only and now i need to know how to do the nvidia geforce mx2/200 driver setup.  I know the debian way, is it the same, like nvidia-kernel-common and glx etc. and then build the kernel module and insall it?01:05
berg_yes01:05
poningruno dont thing so01:05
quackerhow do I restart the sound server in Ubuntu?01:05
polpakbah01:05
crimsunbunghole: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto01:05
SanneCanadianSnow: when I click on add server, it gives me newserver/6667, so I guess that's how you specify a port.01:05
CanadianSnowponingru ok, do you use any servers besides this one?01:05
poningrubueller: normal dvds should play, but some might need libdvd01:05
polpakbueller, see the restricted howto01:05
poningruCanadianSnow: yes01:05
Telemachusberg_: select the no option...we will choose stuff manually01:05
crimsunquacker: System> Preferences> Sound01:05
quackerI think I have aRTs OSS and ALSA (as well as SDL)01:05
polpakubotu tell bueller about restricted01:05
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iKernelcafugego: What will ping -s 1025 do?01:05
poningruCanadianSnow: irc.mozilla.org01:05
crimsunquacker: are you using GNOME or KDE?01:05
mweI believe you don't need samba to just mount a windows share on your linux machine. smbfs is enough, right?01:05
poningrumwe: yeah01:05
berg_now I have to chose the desired X server driver01:05
CanadianSnowso you just put /port number beside it?01:06
iKernelcafugego: Cause I'm about to ping -s 1025 172.30.215.2401:06
poningruCanadianSnow: yeah I think so01:06
poningruCanadianSnow: hold on01:06
spacey_kiiKernel, man ping01:06
bungholeim in console, i need an ssl capable browser to view that site01:06
Telemachusberg_: press the up arrow and choose i81001:06
bungholelinks2 is crap01:06
bunghole:/01:06
berg_done01:06
Telemachusberg_: when highlighted press enter01:06
poningruCanadianSnow: yeah /server irc.gimp.org 700001:06
poningrufor example01:06
quackerHey, crimsun Happy New Year.  You helped me get it up and running in the first place (at least PCM for digital audio extraction wave playback)01:06
robotgeekbunghole: w3m01:06
CanadianSnowthanks01:06
berg_now I need to input identifier for my video card01:06
poningruyep01:07
crimsunbunghole: then install links-ssl01:07
mweiKernel: what would that do? ping with a large packet size?01:07
CanadianSnowYEA it works now01:07
CanadianSnowthanks01:07
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poningruOMG01:07
Telemachusberg_: just press enter...we'll use the default01:07
berg_k01:07
poningruI was on Open cd front page01:07
bungholeahh, elinks01:07
quackerbunghole, I gots dem both and a few root consoles too01:07
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berg_now I need to input te bud identifier01:07
berg_bus01:07
Telemachusberg_:  press enter at this one01:07
iKernelmwe: Ah... it's been a little while since I last used a linux system, except yesterday. 3, 2 days...01:08
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berg_now I can enter the memory I can use (in Kb) for my card01:08
quackerWhere do the actual 'guts' live?01:08
Telemachusberg_: press enter again...we don't need to define this01:08
kcantinhow do I install smbfs and smb4k?01:08
buellerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670801:09
polpakkcantin, sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k01:09
buellernew error will try lib file01:09
berg_now it asks if I should use kernel frame buffer device interface01:09
Telemachusberg_: press enter again...we'll ignore the framebuffer01:09
berg_now I must select the keyboard layout01:09
mweiKernel: I wonder if it would flood the network at that ip or what01:09
Telemachusberg_: yes to autodetect keyboard01:09
iKernelmwe: maybe01:09
berg_I have qwerty but it says us01:09
iKernelmwe: But I don't wanna do anything to him01:10
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Telemachusberg_: are you in the us?01:10
berg_yes01:10
Telemachusberg_: its fine press okay01:10
thekingwhen i run make, I get "Default KERNELPATH not found"01:10
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thekingany ideas?01:10
berg_now I select the XKB set to use01:10
dabaR!any ideas01:10
ubotuYeah, I have an idea!  But I'll need a drawer full of condoms, a little vegemite, and 5 or 6 rabid bunnies.  And keep the FBI off my back fo01:10
berg_*the rule set01:11
kcantinI got an error with dpkg so I am running that manually now to fix the problem01:11
Telemachusberg_: press enter here01:11
berg_now I select keyboard model01:11
berg_it says pc10401:11
iKernel!tell iKernel about iKernel01:11
dabaRIs the command for vi "syntax on" for syntax coloring?01:11
Telemachusberg_: press enter again :)01:11
iKernel!tell iKernel about ubuntu01:11
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berg_I should now select keyboard variant01:11
kcantinE: Couldn't find package smb4k01:11
kcantin"01:11
berg_and its blank01:12
vesDoes anybody use screen and ever notice it behaving strangely with gnome-terminal? Screens blacking out, typing over the status bar and generally being a pain in the ass? :/01:12
Telemachusberg_: press enter again :)01:12
berg_now I should select my keyboard options01:12
berg_its blank01:12
berg_should I press enter? :)01:12
Telemachusberg_: ok - press enter again :)01:12
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kcantinafter downloading smbfs and smb4k then, what do I need to do?01:12
iKernelves: Try using tty instead of gnome-terminal. Ctrl+Alt+F101:12
berg_it says attempt mouse device autodetection01:12
berg_?01:12
berg_yes or no01:13
Telemachusberg_: choose yes01:13
kcantinafter downloading smbfs and smb4k then, what do I need to do?01:13
kcantincould not find smb4k01:13
berg_now it says please choose your mouse port01:13
berg_and lots of options01:13
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vesiKernel: I'm sure it may work pretty good, I just wondered if there was a workaround for gnome-terminal, I enjoy using it with x01:14
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kcantinsmbfs is installed I think01:14
Telemachusberg_:what kind of mouse do you have?...usb....ps2?01:14
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rambo3copy/paste on gnome terminal01:14
berg_it is not USB01:14
berg_thats all I know01:14
poningruberg_: is it an old mouse?01:15
Telemachusberg_: what options do you have01:15
berg_ball mouse with wheel01:15
robotgeekves: yes,i've noticed that. i use rxvt now01:15
Telemachusberg_: you said it had lots of options on the screen?01:16
berg_it connects to my comp like an antenna would to a TV01:16
berg_yeah01:16
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vesrobotgeek: Could you elaborate on what that is? Another type of terminal? I've thought about trying aterm or something similar01:16
kentBerg, are you from sweden?01:16
Eugman!lamp01:16
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP01:16
Eugman!lamp01:16
Eugmanwhoops01:16
Jaredhow can i add some code for the v4l drivers........i found an error in the driver for the creative instant webcam01:16
robotgeekves: similiar to aterm, but lesser resources. also supports unicode etc etc01:16
bunghole~umm, whats the package name for xwindows01:16
crimsunbunghole: x-window-system-core01:16
bungholeoh same as debian01:17
bungholeword01:17
berg_all have /dev/ then in order: ttyS2, ttyS3, /input/mice01:17
berg_and more01:17
jahshua--hey how can i check what kind of mouse im using ?01:17
vesrobotgeek: Oh, cool. You miss anything from gnome-terminal? I've found it to be a pretty nice app and it'd be a shame to leave it. I'll check rxvt out though01:17
berg_atibm01:17
jahshua--anyone know the command ?01:17
berg_sunmouse, gpmdata01:17
Telemachusberg_: okay....is there a /dev/input/mice option01:17
berg_yes01:17
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berg_select that?01:17
Telemachusberg_:choose that one01:17
berg_oops...I pressed OK on something else01:18
berg_-_-01:18
berg_@_@01:18
robotgeekves: what features do you like in gnome-terminal01:18
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jahshua--hey how can i check what kind of mouse im using, anyone know the command for that?01:18
Telemachusberg_:bollox!01:18
berg_?01:19
vesrobotgeek: good point. :) I've just always found it to do its job nicely, and installed on most linux machines.01:19
robotgeekves: it might not be straight forward to change colors etc, but it's a whole lot easier to move the configuration files around01:19
Telemachusguys can you go back on the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg screen01:19
berg_I can do it over01:19
vesrobotgeek: I see.01:19
berg_I remember the options01:19
Telemachusberg_: okay...we'll start again!01:19
robotgeekves: i can also share with you my conf files :)01:20
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jahshua--robotgeek: do you know how i might check what type of mouse im using ?01:20
Telemachusberg_: press ctrl and c01:20
vesrobotgeek: That would be cool, thanks :)01:20
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vesrobotgeek: Is it based on aterm?01:20
robotgeekjahshua--: usb/ps2/serial..these are the only three types i know01:20
buellerim at seveas im a bit lost on doing this procedure...doesnt seem to be clearly defined01:20
Telemachusberg_: hold ctrl down and press c at the same time01:20
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robotgeekves: similiar, but not identical.01:20
veshmm01:20
kcantini just can't seem to get this to work.  Can anyone help?01:21
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berg_done01:21
berg_now back to normal01:21
poningrukcantin: what are you trying to do?01:21
jahshua--robotgeek:its a wireless microsoft one01:21
berg_now it asks if I want to emulate a 3 button mouse01:21
mwe!tell kcantin about helpme01:21
poningrubueller: what have you done so  far?01:21
Telemachusberg_: okay...press the up key and the dpkg-reconfigure command should reappear01:21
Jaredhow do you open a tar.bz2 file?01:21
berg_I am back to where we left off01:22
berg_no need01:22
poningruJared: you can just right click on it and press extract01:22
mweJared: tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2 will extract it01:22
buellerim merely at seveas site im about to updat to the packages01:22
Jaredkk01:22
gnomefreakubotu tell Jared about compile01:22
buellerhttp://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/01:22
mweyou are all so modern with right clicking files and all01:22
Telemachusberg_: you mean at the screen after you chose the wrong option?01:22
poningrubueller: hold on01:23
berg_right01:23
buellerk ty01:23
berg_but I chose the right option this time01:23
berg_:D01:23
vesrobotgeek: I remember spend ages trying to get a decent font for aterm and ended up giving up01:23
Telemachusberg_: cool.....01:23
robotgeekves: http://robotgeek.org/dotfiles/Xdefaults01:23
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Bjelleklangis there any easy way to install JDK from ssh?01:23
Bjelleklangapt-get install something?01:23
berg_should I emulate a three button mouse? I CAN click my wheel so it is practically a button01:23
poningrubueller: ok you dont have to do that01:23
rambo3eterm is nice , just that it doesnt have scrollbar01:23
vesrobotgeek: Cheers, I appreciate it01:23
Telemachusberg_: nope01:24
poningrubueller: go into a terminal and sudo apt-get install libdvdread301:24
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robotgeekves: it's got aterm,xterm and urxvt01:24
berg_enable scroll event for mouse wheel?01:24
Telemachusberg_: don't emaulate the 3 button01:24
berg_k01:24
berg_done01:24
poningrubueller: and then sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh01:24
iKernel:D gotta love fast internet01:24
poningruiKernel: I know gigabit connections are awesoom01:24
berg_should I enable scroll event for the mouse?01:24
Telemachusberg_: yeah u can eanble the scroll event01:24
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vesrobotgeek: Nice, ~/.Xdefaults yeah? Doesn't seem to be loading them..01:25
berg_now I should select the x.org server module01:25
Telemachusberg_: just press enter here01:25
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berg_write default files selection to configuration file?01:26
Telemachusberg_: choose yes01:26
mweTelemachus: did it ask for resolution or do you have to change that editing the file afterwords?01:27
berg_write default DRI section to configuration file?01:27
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buellercouldnt stat source package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670901:27
Telemachusmwe: not at that point yet :)01:27
Bjelleklangis there any easy way to install java sdk from ssh?01:27
Bjelleklangapt-get install something?01:27
mweTelemachus: ok01:27
berg_?01:27
Telemachusberg_: enter yes here01:27
navaroneyikes01:28
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vesrobotgeek: I don't know if http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-ncurses/2002-03/msg00025.html would be of any interest to you, by far the only documented problem I can find01:28
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Telemachusthat wee bugger has gone!01:28
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buelleri think it is basically saying I have libdvdread301:29
flodinecan you install the new gnome on breezy01:29
Bergok01:29
Bergso it just rebooted01:29
buelleryet dvd and vcd have no video in totem01:29
buellerdvd wont even play01:30
TelemachusBerg:  ???? your whole computer rebooted?01:30
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Bergit went black then I had to log in again01:30
poningrubueller: wait what did it say?01:30
rambo3sudo reboot01:30
buellercouldnt stat source package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/670901:30
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b01:30
robotgeekves: you will need to save that file as .Xdefaults in your home directory and do xrdb -merge .Xdefaults01:30
flodinehelp01:30
mweflodine: sure. "just" install it from source01:30
vesrobotgeek: cheers01:30
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flodinethxs01:30
buellerponigru is that link for me?01:31
poningrubueller: yeah but thats not the problem01:31
TelemachusBerg: we'll have to do it again!01:31
buellerhmmmm01:31
Berg:(01:31
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poningruI forgot to tell you to apt-get update01:31
buellerstandby?01:31
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BergI can do it fast01:31
torron7list01:31
buellerahh01:31
vesrobotgeek: Nice, you ever looked into the font though? And getting the annoying left hand side bar away?01:31
poningrubueller: in a terminal sudo apt-get update01:31
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buellerapt-get updat then your syntax?01:31
torronwee01:32
buellerwill do.01:32
robotgeekves: hmm, in which one? rxvt?01:32
TelemachusBerg: okay.......but not to fast01:32
vesrobotgeek: yeah01:32
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poningrubueller: yeah01:32
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TelemachusBerg: can you open the terminal and type the dpkg-reconfigure command again01:32
robotgeekves: these settings are for rxvt-unicode01:32
vesrobotgeek: Oh, sorry I think I might be running just rxvt01:33
bungholehey, i did what the site on binary driver howto/nvidia said,, but upon starting x, i get nvidia kernel module not found01:33
bungholewhats up withthat01:33
buellerno pub key on breezy01:33
ManifoldGuys.01:33
bungholei tried modprobe nvidia no dice, do i need to build the kernel module?01:33
ManifoldI can't see the slit.01:33
poningrubueller: hmm?01:33
robotgeekves: yeah, i am not sure if rxvt and rxvt-unicode use the same resource name01:33
ManifoldI just installed Fluxbox.01:33
ManifoldBut the slit aint there..01:34
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rambo3slit?01:34
bungholeoh come on man01:34
bungholeanyone?01:34
bungholeplease01:34
Eugmananyone here have a working webserver on thier comp?01:34
bungholehelp!01:34
ManifoldOh damn.01:34
vesrobotgeek: Ah, that's much nicer. Still tiny font though :/01:34
robotgeekEugman: yeah, still facing problems?01:34
buellersame error libdvdread3 is curremt01:34
butcherbirdbunghole: you followed wiki site instructions?01:34
Eugmanwell I fixed the old problems01:34
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robotgeekves: you can increase the font size and stuff01:34
bungholebutcherbird: yes i did, to the dot01:34
buellerwill do=im doing the task ;)01:34
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Storkwhat does this mean: Warning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.01:35
StorkIn order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to01:35
Storkbe restarted.01:35
kremontehow do i check my internal IP? =X01:35
EugmanI completely remove everything and followed the directions so php works fine now01:35
vesrobotgeek: yeah, I'll look into the config. I remember mucking with aterm and trying to get something nice like bittstream vera but gave up01:35
bungholekremonte: ifconfig01:35
kremontethanks01:35
bungholeno problem01:35
butcherbirdbunghole: what model card?01:35
bungholegeforece mx2/20001:35
bungholelegacy01:35
vesrobotgeek: It's really fast, though.01:35
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Eugmanbut the problem now is that the files for media wiki seem to be in /var/lib/ instead of /var/www/01:35
TelemachusI've gotta go, its 00:35 here......can someone help Berg through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg menus.....he needs the i810 driver01:35
Theflameci sei??01:35
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robotgeekves: yep, on my slow machine, it's very nice :)01:36
Eugmanis there anyway to acess them through the server?01:36
vesrobotgeek: :)01:36
bungholei don't need 3d acceleration really, if i just use the nv driver it should work correct?01:36
Theflamevince???01:36
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Theflamevince'??01:36
PuMpErNiCkLebunghole: yeah, kinda01:36
bungholei've always had to build the kernel module for nvidia myself in debian and modprobe it, or use module-assistant etc.01:36
torronwee01:36
torronciao01:36
torronfinalmente01:36
torronpvt dai01:36
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bungholebut this ubuntu is crappin my mind01:37
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Theflamequesto e il chan dei rikkioni inglesi01:37
PuMpErNiCkLebunghole: Here all you have to do for the nvidia driver is 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' :)01:37
Theflameaspe'01:37
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torronauhauhahua01:37
Theflamevai su lista canali sopra01:37
torronsi dei ricchioni01:37
Storkhow do i restart my "X server" ?01:37
Bergooook01:37
torronahuauhaahuuaha01:37
Theflamee scrivi italia01:37
gnomefreak!es01:37
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:37
bungholePuMpErNiCkLe: i did, as well as nvidia-glx.blah enable comand01:37
Theflametrovi01:37
bungholeno dice01:37
Theflameubuntu.it01:37
Theflameentra li01:37
gnomefreak!it01:37
Theflameok???01:37
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:37
PuMpErNiCkLeStork: ctrl-alt-backspace - it'll quit all your applications, though01:37
butcherbirdStork: alt-ctrl-backspace? for sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart01:37
kcantincan anyone posbiby help me out?01:37
torronok01:37
Theflamela detto pure il bot01:38
Bergshould I write default files section to configuration file? yes or no01:38
buelleri got a gpg error01:38
robotgeekEugman: you need to edit /etc/apach2/sites-enabled/your-sites-config-file01:38
Storkoh, okay01:38
PuMpErNiCkLebunghole: Did you reconfigure xorg to use the nvidia module instead of nv?01:38
Theflamepezzi di merda01:38
Theflamerikkioniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii01:38
Eugmank01:38
Theflamehahhhah01:38
torronwee01:38
PuMpErNiCkLeBerg: yes01:38
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torronauuahauhahuuahauhahaha01:38
torronporco dio01:38
Theflamevi ciulo le moglii01:38
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Theflamehhahahahah01:38
sushihohoho01:38
torronfatemi na pompa01:38
Theflametorron ci sei allo in ubuntu .it??01:38
torronauhahua01:38
robotgeekEugman: Basically change the DocumentRoot/ create a symlink01:38
torronsi01:38
ompaul!it01:38
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:38
Theflamevwnfo01:39
iKernel:D 265 meg file, download in 40 minutes01:39
Sannebunghole: I also needed to install linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version)-nvidia-legacy and linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version) in addition to what the wiki said.01:39
gnomefreakbueller, gpg errors are ok they are just warnings for the most part01:39
Bergshould I?01:39
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buellerso my process to update libdvdread3 probably worked contrary to syntax?01:39
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Storkmebutcherbird, i did the sudo command, now there's no graphics at all :|01:40
EugmanThat sentence is an oxymoron for me robotgeek. I am not well acquainted with symlinks.01:40
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robotgeekEugman: hmm, sorry.01:40
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drcurlHi01:40
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ompaulStorkme, was that >>>>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<<01:40
Eugmannp01:40
drcurldo some of you run the drapper drake colony 2?01:41
B_166-ER-Xhow can i know my Cpu temp?01:41
EugmanI've hard of them but know nothing about them01:41
Storkmeompaul, no it was "Stork: alt-ctrl-backspace? for sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"01:41
bungholewell i have to resort to using the nv drivers as apposed to nvidia01:41
crimsunB_166-ER-X: acpi -t  if yours is supported.01:41
gnomefreakdrcurl, sure01:41
butcherbirdStorkme: sorry work problems one sec01:41
rambo3put a termometer on CPU01:41
bungholecan i just build the kernel module myself and install it01:41
bunghole?01:41
bungholethe debian way?01:41
drcurlgnomefreak, how os the speed improvment in gnome, noticable?01:41
drcurlhow is01:41
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bungholeor is that not recommended, because i've done everything the wiki said, but still nvidia module can't be found/loaded01:41
Sannebunghole: did you see what I told you?01:42
ompaulStorkme, do >>sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start<< and then it should be there01:42
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun,  No support for device type: thermal , doesnt look like it :\01:42
Storkmeompaul, i did, it doesn't work01:42
crimsunB_166-ER-X: then you need to install lmsensors.01:42
bungholeSanne: no i didin't01:42
gnomefreakdrcurl, not really if it does become faster it wont be for a while01:42
Storkmeompaul, a nasty error lol01:42
Sannebunghole: I said: I also needed to install linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version)-nvidia-legacy and linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version) in addition to what the wiki said.01:42
Unityi can't play divx video the picture appears entirely black but the sound plays. which pacjage should i install? i already installed w32codecs01:42
ompaulStorkme, what is the laugh out loud about? - I would be a little concerned :)01:43
buellersounds like unity and I are on the same task01:43
drcurlgnomefreak, but I read about the fact that it was starting faster and using less memory, these improvment aren't in drapper?01:43
robotgeekEugman: in 'sudo ln -s /path/to/data_dir /var/www/mediawiki01:43
gnomefreakdrcurl, you ask if they were noticable01:43
Storkmeompaul, i was messing with the xorg.conf file, how do i restore the backup one again?01:43
drcurlok01:43
buellerwhere are w32codecs located?01:43
bungholeman, they are already the newest version01:43
mweStorkme: you can't if you didn't make a backup01:44
gnomefreakdrcurl, there is too many broken packages to tell if it is moving faster01:44
drcurlthanks for the info gnomefreak01:44
drcurlok01:44
flogistonI'd like to know that to.01:44
ompaulStorkme, sudo >>>>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<01:44
flogistonThe w32codecs.01:44
gnomefreakyw01:44
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Sannebunghole: ok, then I don't know, sorry.01:44
ompaulStorkme, that other command here are your options: Usage: /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}01:44
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun,  when i search for lmsensors , the only package it gives me is 'gdesklets-data' wich i have already installed...01:44
mweStorkme: next time make a backup before messing with it01:44
franky123bueller: w32codecs are downloadable at an alternate location as a .deb. you can install them by typing dpkg -i w32codecs.deb01:45
mwesudo dpkg -i01:45
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mwe!w32codecs01:45
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:45
Storkmemwe, woot, i fixed it :)01:46
buellerfrankly i was told in terminal that the package doesnt exist01:46
ompaulStorkme, na the command did :)01:46
Storkmemwe, it was because i changed my "nv" to "nvidia"01:46
naliothbueller: you have to manually grab them01:46
franky123bueller: thats true. its not in the repositories01:46
Storkmeompaul, i did it manually with xorg.conf01:46
mweStorkme: yeah01:46
ompaulStorkme, hehe01:46
franky123bueller: erm, the command line told you that it couldnt find them so as far as it knew they dindt exist01:46
Storkmei'm trying to get quake4 running natively on linux - it's hell01:46
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buellergotcha downloading now follwing the wiki frankly thanks01:47
mweStorkme: at least if you dont have 3d acceleration working it is01:48
jmhodgesok, i used a2enmod rewrite and fcgid but they are not showing up as enabled in apache01:48
Storkmemwe, how can i get that working :) ?01:48
kcantinok, let me ask this01:48
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ompaulkcantin, we wait01:48
kcantinHow do I download and install ssh and telent?01:48
jmhodgeshmph, at least.. its not showing up in the little information part at the bottom of the page01:48
mweStorkme: install and configure the driver for your card01:48
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jmhodgeswhat am i missing here?01:48
Storkmemwe, where from?01:49
user__r01:49
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gnomefreaksynaptic?01:49
mweStorkme: it sounds like that's what you were trying to do01:49
mweStorkme: what card do you have?01:49
kcantinI could probably work on this remotley if I could access this maching remotley01:49
Storkmewell, i use an nvidia 6600GT01:49
Storkmegeforce01:49
mwe!nvidia01:49
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:49
Storkmeso i need nvidia-glx ?01:49
butcherbirdkcantin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server not on ubuntu to check telnet server01:49
mweStorkme: follow that01:49
Sannekcantin: there's a nice chapter about ssh in the ubuntu starter guide that comes with breezy.01:49
Storkmemwe, thanks01:49
tehdotI was just wondering. I have a laptop with composite out, radeon mobility, and was wondering if anyone knew if DRI or any other OS drivers supported it01:49
buellerwow collectivley natural human beings are amazing...01:49
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franky123kcantin: if you want to access an ubuntu machine from ssh i think you have to enable some option in it first ...01:50
s3algium brasileiro???01:50
ompaul!pl01:50
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl01:50
franky123s3: is that the same as algun espanol? "someone spanish" ? "someone brazilian" ?01:50
ompaul!pt01:50
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.01:50
buellerso the 10million shuttleworth gave to start the ubuntu non-profit is used to ship cd's?01:50
mwetehdot: I think fglrx does. check out the docs at ati.com though01:51
butcherbirdbueller: thats right we're trying to outdo aol in the coaster market01:51
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bungholeis there a contrib or non-free for ubuntu in repos01:51
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ompaulbueller, no it has also paid wages and stuff for a some staff to make things a little smoother in he background01:51
Storkmemwe, how do i know if my nvidia card is geforce1 or geforce2 or neither? on the box it just said geforce01:51
kcantinI have putty on a windows machine and I just ran "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"01:51
gnomefreakubotu tell bunghole about easysource01:52
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mweStorkme: did you say geforce 6600?01:52
ompaulbutcherbird, ehh sorry on that one only people who actually have an interest in the CDs and ask me for them after I talk about them get them01:52
Storkmemwe, yes, nvidia geforce 6600 GT01:52
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mweStorkme: I don't have a geforce but I believe that's geforce401:52
ompaulbutcherbird, of course they may not all actually do something productive with it01:53
Storkmemwe, oh, okay. thanks01:53
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mwewho knows that?01:53
Bergyeah01:53
SanneStorkme: 'lspci | grep -i geforce' might tell you whichone01:53
BergI still need help01:53
mweisn't geforce 6600 geforce4?01:53
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ubuntu__is there frenchies ?01:53
Eugmansorry had to get the phone. Well it works, robotgeek, I just didn't do it exactly right for how I wanted.01:53
buellerhey so once you have installed a deb package from home can you safely delete the file01:54
ompaulBerg, what in particular do you need help with01:54
ompaulBerg, address the channel as I may not have the answer :)01:54
BergI still need help with intalling my video cdriver01:54
mwebueller: yeah01:54
robotgeekEugman: i am no apache guru, i just noticed these things01:54
Eugmanthanks I should be able to figure out the rest01:54
BergI had someone else help me01:54
Bergmwe should know01:55
mweBerg: what?01:55
Storkmemwe, when following that tutorial, i got an error ;\01:55
Bergmwe: who was helping me earlier?01:55
mweStorkme: what error?01:55
BergT something01:55
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Storkmemwe, "Errorm your x config has been altered, this script cannot proceed automatically"01:56
mweStorkme: what gives you that?01:56
ompaulBerg, look define the problem and what you have done in a single line and then press enter, wait for us to think and if we have an answer we can help01:56
Storkmemwe, when doing glx-config-enable01:56
Bergwell it does not matter but I still need help with installing my video driver so I can change it01:56
Storkme"sudo nvidia-glx-config" enable01:56
butcherbirdStorkme: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try again01:57
Bergexcept the update for my driver came in a windows CD01:57
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mweStorkme: I don't know. ask someone with a geforce card, but I guess you should at least prefix the command with sudo01:57
Bergand I need something to use instead01:57
Berg:(01:57
tafsenWhere can I find .xinitrc?01:57
gnomefreakdont look at me i have 2 ati cards and neither of them work in 3d01:57
mwetafsen: in your homedir01:58
gnomefreakone i cant get to work at all :(01:58
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ompaulBerg, what kind of video card?01:58
kcantinok, I was able to ssh in to my ubuntu machine01:58
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B_166-ER-Xcrimsun,  when i search for lmsensors , the only package it gives me is 'gdesklets-data' wich i have already installed...01:58
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kcantinCan I remote desktop in to my ubuntu mahcine from a windows machine?01:58
mweompaul: intel extreme I think01:58
BergVGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)01:58
poningru!sensor01:58
ubotusensor is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto01:58
crimsunB_166-ER-X: lm-sensors01:58
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ompaulmwe, ahh01:59
dadkcantin, no vbut you can VNC and VNC is freely avail01:59
CanadianSnowyo01:59
mweBerg: weren't you gonna fix the resolution for starters?01:59
Eugmanhey robotgeek, is there a way to check for symlinks?01:59
kcantingotchya01:59
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Bergyeah01:59
ompaulBerg, the only thing I can suggest to you is >>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<01:59
Bergbut I cant01:59
mweBerg: fix 3d later. first get 2d working right01:59
kcantinhow do I download and install vnc on ubuntu?01:59
Bergright01:59
mweompaul: he did01:59
ompaulBerg, start that with sudo01:59
Bergwhen I use that ompaul01:59
BergI have been doing so02:00
robotgeekEugman: ls -l will show symlinks02:00
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mweompaul: he did it already02:00
mweompaul: he needs to edit the xorg.conf file02:00
Bergbut when it tells me if I want to write default DRI files for configuration in it it logs me off02:00
dadI think there's a package for it or you can find a windows d/l (there are many flaovors)  w/Google02:00
Storkmeompaul, hehe, i think you just like telling people to use dpkg-reconfigure :P02:00
papaubuntukcantin: sudo apt-get install vncserver02:01
ompaulStorkme, /etc/init.d  is also a family favorite02:01
papaubuntuand02:01
StorkmeOH MY GOD02:01
StorkmeQUAKE4 WORKS02:01
papaubuntusudo apt-get install vncviewer02:01
StorkmeI LOVE YOU MWE AND OMPAUL02:01
mweStorkme: lol02:01
Bergthe ubuntu configuration is not working for me02:01
ompaulStorkme, ehh don't use capitals and now enjoy02:01
BergI have tried multiple times02:01
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robotgeekStorkme: typically, you buy them beer02:01
Bergeverytime I end up in the DOS prompt02:02
jaredAlbaLilian02:02
mweBerg: can you get into the x windows at all?02:02
poningrurofl02:02
Bergyes02:02
ompaulBerg, ------------------------------------------------------------------02:02
Berg:(02:02
mweBerg: but the resolution is wrong still?02:02
Storkmerobotgeek, i'm underage :(02:02
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Bergyes02:02
ompaulBerg, that is not a dos prompt02:02
Bergwhat is it?02:02
robotgeekStorkme: lol02:02
Bergit is black and looks like it02:02
ompaulBerg, that is a shell prompt02:02
Bergok02:02
mweBerg: what does the res need to be?02:02
Berghigher than this02:02
mweBerg: what exactly?02:03
ompaulBerg, a bash shell prompt02:03
gnomefreaklol02:03
dadin kubuntu: can't get admin button to work on systems settings like Sharing, either no button appears or putting in the password when it DOES appear, doesn't seem to "take"02:03
BergIDK....the normal size I guess02:03
Storkmei have a feeling the sound is messed up though02:03
gnomefreakbash shell prompt=unix  but shhhhhhhh02:03
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Eugman!commands02:03
ubotucommands is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/02:03
mweBerg: I think you're brave for a linux n00b not just quitting right away02:03
Eugman!symlink02:03
uboturumour has it, symlink is ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link02:03
Bergthanks02:03
Storkmeompaul, mwe: the sound is completely messed up on the game lol02:04
mweBerg: is it a laptop?02:04
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Bergwindows was being a b**** so I decided to borrow linux from my friend and try it out02:04
ompaulBerg, just a sec - mwe talk him through pastbin the file02:04
shootersHow could I set if ((grep - q "text" "filename.txt") == (NULL)) is true/false to a variable?02:04
Bergno its not02:04
Bergit is a dell inspiron(something)02:04
Bergdesktop02:04
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gnomefreakinspiron is a desktop?02:04
Bergsomething like that...IDK02:05
Bergits a DELL02:05
mweBerg: ok. decide what resolution you want and well fix it. is the machine online?02:05
gnomefreaki thought that was laptop and dementin was the desktop02:05
Bergok02:05
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Berg1080x whatever is appropriate02:05
hydroksydeHow do I configure non-pnp ISA serial ports?02:05
mweBerg: 1024x76802:05
Bergk02:05
Bergthats seems nice02:05
mweBerg: is the machine on the internet?02:05
gnomefreaki use that too :)02:05
Bergyes02:05
Bergdurr02:06
pa_lanyone who can tell if there is a good and easy to use alternative to Gftp?02:06
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bunghole!mplayer02:06
ubotuI guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106102:06
Bergif it wasnt then I would not be on IRC02:06
bshumateshooters: that question would probably be best asked in #bash ;-)02:06
mweBerg: do you think you can pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?02:06
gnomefreakBerg, more than one pc will allow you to do both02:06
BergI guess02:06
Bergsry02:06
mweBerg: you could be irc'ing from another machine :)02:06
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Sannepa_l: if you use KDE's konqueror, it's very nice for ftp.02:06
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Bergwell I said earlier but then again you would prolly not remember02:07
B_166-ER-Xcrimsun,  i installed lm-sensors, but it it stills No support for device type: thermal02:07
mweBerg: anyway02:07
Bergso what do I do?02:07
mweBerg: do you think you can pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?02:07
gnomefreakgedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:07
Bergdummy it down plz?02:07
gnomefreak^^^02:07
pa_lSanne: ok ill try it since GFtp works when it wants to work02:07
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mweBerg: you're not02:07
Sannepa_l: yeah, I noticed that too02:08
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=== gnomefreak the dummy says gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Berg*gets02:08
mweBerg: can you open a browser?02:08
Bergyes02:08
mwe!pastebin02:08
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:08
kremontegedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ctrl+a ctrl+c goto pastebin ctrl+v? =P02:08
BergI wrote it in02:08
mweBerg: go there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:08
Sannepa_l: basically you specify the ftp address in the location bar of konqueror, and when you're connected, you can set it as a bookmark.02:08
Bergdone02:08
B_166-ER-Xmwe , could you help ? i'm trying to find how to get my cpu Temp ?02:09
gnomefreak!sensors02:09
ubotuI guess sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto02:09
mweBerg: have you pasted the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?02:09
MalachiB_166-ER-X: I'm sure there is a gDesklet app02:09
Berg# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)02:09
Berg#02:09
Berg# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using02:09
Berg# values from the debconf database.02:09
Berg#02:09
Berg# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.02:09
Berg# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)02:09
kremonteahhh02:09
mweBerg: not in her02:09
Berg#02:09
Berg# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*02:09
Berg# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg02:10
Berg# package.02:10
B_166-ER-Xmalachi , yeap, but they dont show anything02:10
gnomefreaknot in her? lol02:10
Berg#02:10
Berg# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated02:10
Berg# again, run the following commands:02:10
SanneBerg: STOP!!!02:10
Berg#02:10
gnomefreakBerg,  stop please02:10
Berg#   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom02:10
Berg#   sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'02:10
Berg#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:10
BergSection "Files"02:10
ompaulBerg, press CTRL + C02:10
BergFontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server02:10
Berg# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these02:10
MalachiB_166-ER-X: Hmm.....02:10
hydroksydedie Berg!!!!02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"02:10
gnomefreaklol02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"02:10
mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"02:10
mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
ompaulBerg, press CTRL + C02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"02:10
mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
BergFontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"02:10
Berg        # paths to defoma fonts02:10
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mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
BergFontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"02:10
mweBerg: press ctrl-c02:10
BergFontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"02:10
ompaulmwe, stop02:10
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BergEndSection02:10
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BergSection "Module"02:10
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BergLoad"bitmap"02:10
BergLoad"dbe"02:10
BergLoad"ddc"02:10
BergLoad"dri"02:11
mwe!ops02:11
BergLoad"extmod"02:11
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth02:11
BergLoad"freetype"02:11
ompaulBerg, press CTRL + C02:11
BergLoad"glx"02:11
BergLoad"int10"02:11
B_166-ER-X!paste02:11
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:11
BergLoad"record"02:11
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BergLoad"type1"02:11
gnomefreaki pmed him but no luck hes still going02:11
BergLoad"vbe"02:11
BergEndSection02:11
iKernelTell me when he stops floding.02:11
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BergSection "InputDevice"02:11
BergIdentifier"Generic Keyboard"02:11
BergDriver"keyboard"02:11
kremonteahrhrhrgrgghghghghgg02:11
BergOption"CoreKeyboard"02:11
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BergOption"XkbRules""xorg"02:11
BergOption"XkbModel""pc104"02:11
iKernelJust ignore him!02:11
BergOption"XkbLayout""us"02:11
BergEndSection02:11
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BergSection "InputDevice"02:11
Motoko-chan...02:11
BergIdentifier"Configured Mouse"02:11
robotgeek!ops02:11
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth02:11
BergDriver"mouse"02:11
BergOption"CorePointer"02:11
kremontebut then we don't know when he's not spamming :-(02:11
BergOption"Device""/dev/input/mice"02:11
BergOption"Protocol""ImPS/2"02:11
BergOption"Emulate3Buttons""true"02:11
BergOption"ZAxisMapping""4 5"02:11
BergEndSection02:11
Motoko-chanA bot would be handy...02:11
robotgeeknalioth: hellp!!02:11
BergSection "Device"02:11
BergIdentifier"Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdal02:11
mweBerg: stop it02:11
Bergoh02:12
kremonteyea02:12
iKernelkremonte: Well, one person will have to not ignore him.02:12
Berg-_-02:12
gnomefreaklol robotgeek02:12
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Bergon what?02:12
Bergcp[y what?02:12
mweBerg: freak02:12
Berg*copy02:12
Motoko-chan...02:12
Bergno02:12
ompaulBerg, stop-02:12
BergI pressed ctrl+c02:12
mweBerg: don't paste in here02:12
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=== hydroksyde kicks Berg really hard
Bergwhat should I copy02:12
=== Berg is pressing ctrl+c
Motoko-chanIf that happens again, leave the channel to stop it.02:12
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Berg>:(02:12
Bergdone02:12
ompaulBerg, it is a matter of whhere02:12
kremonteBerg: you realize you just spammed us a good deal =P02:12
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mweBerg: use pastebin02:12
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gnomefreakBerg, you got very very lucky you didnt get banned :(02:12
ompaulBerg, you never EVER paste in a channel02:12
ompaul!paste02:12
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:12
BergI was not the one saying press ctrl+c02:12
mweBerg: you could have been banned for that02:12
bshumate!tell Berg about pastebin02:12
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Bergsry02:12
ColonelPanique!tell Berg about crackhead02:13
Berglol?02:13
ompaulBerg, read that and then paste your file there on the pastebin02:13
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ompaulBerg, is it a web page for stuff like that02:13
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kcantinOk, I got vnc and ssh working thank you for all of your help!!02:13
BergOK..I am waiting for it to load02:14
Bergmy internet is hella slow since I installed ubuntu02:14
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mweBerg: why the heck did you paste it in here? :)02:14
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BergIDK02:14
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tafsenAnyone here that knows openBOX?02:14
buellerhiya ubuntu new error it a one liner can i post here?02:14
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iKernelSystem lag!!02:15
mweBerg: I guess you're forgiven. lucky the ops weren't in a bad moode02:15
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mweBerg: post the url to the paste here02:15
gnomefreakbad mood they werent even looking02:15
Bergits named my comp02:15
iKernelthis shouldn't happen. I have three windows open.02:15
Bergwait a sec02:15
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Berghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/671102:15
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buelleri did the restricted rformats wiki still no dvd real stuff and java now working flawlessly though02:15
mwegnomefreak: I guess not. he would have been banned02:15
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gnomefreakmwe, fast too02:16
Coleeniewhat02:16
hydroksydedoes anyone know how to get Non PnP ISA serial ports/modems to work in ubuntu???02:16
pa_lSanne: would i be able to upload files?02:16
Coleenieno02:16
Coleeniey?02:16
Coleeniewhats your name02:16
Coleenie??????02:16
robotgeektafsen: what do you need with openbox?02:16
Coleeniehello02:16
hydroksydewho are you speaking to?02:16
Coleeniewhat02:16
iKernelColeenie: Who are you talking to?02:16
hydroksydeColeenie, who are you speaking to?02:16
Sannepa_l: yes, just like local files.02:16
Coleenienvm02:16
gnudeHelp: I need binutils for a new application I'm installing ... is there one binutils for all of Ubuntu or one for every program??02:16
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crimsun!info binutils02:17
duendegnude, is it a binary package or a source distribution?02:17
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mwegnomefreak: I think the bot should autokick and give a warning when people paste02:17
Sannepa_l: best is using a view profile with two panes side by side.02:17
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gnomefreakbuild-essential has binutils or you can just sudo apt-get binutils02:17
iKernel!info coreutils02:17
gnudeduende, it's sources ... what do I do ??02:17
Bergsry02:17
BergI have posted the pastebin02:17
gnomefreakmwe,  i agree02:17
Berghttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/671102:17
iKernel!info02:17
gnomefreakberg we saw02:17
Bergok02:17
Bergso now what?02:18
pa_loki thanks Sanne02:18
iKernel!info ''02:18
crimsun!info binutils dapper02:18
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ubotubinutils: (The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.16.1cvs20051214-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1589 kB, Installed size: 6956 kB02:18
gnomefreakim not sure but it looks better than mine did :(02:18
gnudemwe, I didn't paste! just type a lot02:18
pa_lNow i will be able to upload my projects without stops ;)02:18
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gnudecrimsun,  what's dapper?02:18
gnomefreakunstable02:18
crimsungnude: it's the devel version.02:18
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mwegnude: ?02:18
gnomefreakdapper is ubuntu 6.04 set to be released in april :)02:18
gnudeiKernel, I can't get anything with !info02:19
mwegnude: I didn't mention you :)02:19
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ompaulgnomefreak, the 20th of April02:19
Sannepa_l: one thing: the konaueror in breezy is kinda dumbed down, no view profiles and such. Should I go find the instructions on how to get the full power back? :)02:19
gnudemwe, just new to irc, want to be po po lite.02:19
mweBerg: did you try restarting X and see if the res is fixed?02:19
gnomefreakty ompaul02:19
Bergyes02:19
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iKernelgnude: Try !info aalib102:19
iKernel!info aalib102:19
cubedhello all02:19
gnomefreakgnude,  !info doesnt command the bot to do anything02:19
tafsenrobotgeek: I need to make few programs autostart when I login... Like Gnome-panel and gdesklets, Can you help me?02:19
iKernelsif it doesn't exsit.02:19
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gnudeiKernel, what's aalibl?02:19
buellerwow exciting dvd now works!02:19
iKernelgnude: Not l, 1.02:20
crimsunit doesn't. We've already transitioned. It's libaa1.02:20
pa_lwtf Sanne it has stalled twice with konqueror too. is it a problem when uploading tar.gz files?02:20
gnomefreakcafuego, its like that now02:20
crimsun!info libaa102:20
gnudegnomefreak,  what is the bot?02:20
ompaulcafuego, so put something in the bot to reply to that02:20
cafuegognomefreak: YOU MEAN IT'S OUT NOW!?!02:20
iKernel!info libaa102:20
gnomefreakubotu tell gnude about you02:20
Sannepa_l: not that I know of.02:20
mweBerg: restart x windows02:20
iKernel!info libaa102:20
ompaul!bot02:20
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.02:20
BergI dont have windows anymore02:20
buellerok how can i get ubuntu to make peace everlasting in the world?02:20
gnomefreakcafuego, no i mean everyone wants it now02:20
crimsunbot's db needs to be refreshed.02:20
iKernel!info libaa1 now you silly bot!!!02:20
iKernel:(02:20
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gnomefreak!libaa102:21
ubotuI don't know, gnomefreak02:21
mweBerg: lol02:21
cubedQuick question (I hope).  I just installed Ubuntu and everything seems to be working fine.  Only problem is PS/2 mouse is not working.  Touchpad (laptop) works fine.  Anyone have any ideas how to resolve this issue.02:21
Sannepa_l: sometimes you need to configure active/passive ftp, depends on the ftp server, I believe.02:21
pa_lok02:21
robotgeektafsen: http://icculus.org/openbox/faq.php02:21
iKernelcubed: Yeah. Reboot with the mouse in.02:21
mweBerg: the grapichal server of linux, the window manager02:21
cafuego!dapper02:21
ubotudapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake02:21
gnudecafuego,  what's !dapper mean?02:21
Bergwhere is that?02:21
cubediKernel, ok I will give that a shot, but it was pluged in durring install and first boot up.02:22
iKernelgnude: ! is a way of passing an arguement to the bot.02:22
cafuegognude: No, it's not mean.02:22
iKernelcubed: Don't try it then.02:22
gnomefreakcan we add "USE IT AND LOSE IT!!!!!!!"???02:22
ompaulgnude, the ! is to summon the ot the word after it means explain that word (arguement)02:22
gnomefreaklol sorry had to02:22
buellerany good audio production progs for ubuntu?02:22
cafuegognomefreak: I would, but it works fine(-ish) ;-)02:22
iKernel!meow02:23
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, iKernel02:23
pa_lhow do i configure it Sanne, i want to upload by project backup its critical02:23
gnudeompaul, what's the bot?02:23
mweBerg: press ctrl-alt-backspace. warning it closes everything and restarts the window manager02:23
gnomefreakcafuego, i had OOo issues and locales issues02:23
iKernel!sif02:23
ubotuiKernel: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:23
iKernel!no02:23
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...02:23
iKernel!lol02:23
ubotuI heard lol is "laugh out loud", or really annoying when used as punctuation02:23
gnomefreakthe OOo issues i couldnt find way around to save my life02:23
Sannepa_l: I'm looking for it, just a minute...02:23
iKernel!sif02:23
ompaulgnude, a database that talks to the channel via the name ubotu02:23
gnomefreakthe locales was bit easy02:23
ompauliKernel, dont play with the bot02:23
redhookubotu: lol == lamers on line02:23
uboturedhook: Are you smoking crack?02:23
mwedo you need to restart gdm after editing xorg.conf for changes to take effect?02:23
iKernelompaul: Why not?02:23
gnudeompaul,  you're kidding right?02:23
redhookmwe: yes02:23
cafuegognomefreak: there we go02:24
ompaulgnude, no02:24
gnomefreakmwe, more than likely02:24
iKernel!leet02:24
ubotuiKernel: What?02:24
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iKernel!ubotu02:24
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.02:24
ajmitchiKernel: stop playing with the bot02:24
redhookmwe: or just ctrl+alt+backspace02:24
cafuegognomefreak: They got sorted in yesterdays update, no?02:24
gnudeubotu, are you reaLL?02:24
ubotugnude: What?02:24
iKernelajmitch: sorry ok02:24
kremontehow do i update my "locate" cache?02:24
gnomefreakcafuego, i got rid of it yesterday :(02:24
gnudeubotu, are you a person or machine?02:24
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, gnude02:24
redhookkremonte: updatedb02:24
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kremontethanks02:24
mweredhook: are you sure? you don't need to go to the console and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart?02:24
ompaulgnude, it is a machine -02:24
cafuegognude: Stop playing with the bot.02:24
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cafuegokremonte: 'sudo updatedb' actually.02:25
redhookmwe: you just need to restart X02:25
gnomefreaki put winxp on here for school :(02:25
gnudecafuego, this is blowing my mind, it's someone messing with me ... !02:25
redhookmwe: ctrl|alt|backspace restarts X02:25
kremonteyup, slowly but surely updating02:25
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cafuegognude: No, ubotu is a perl script with a mysql database. Nothing else.02:25
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ompaulgnude, it is not it is a well written computer progam with a huge database read the URL02:25
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cafuegognude: You can play with him via /msg if you need to.02:25
gnudecafuego, so I can ! to get answers out of it?02:25
gnudecafuego, I'll try to do that!02:26
cafuegognude: Go and have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:26
cafuegognude: it documents the most common commands02:26
Sannepa_l: If you have KDE control center, go to internet&Network/Connection Preferences. There's FTP Options for passive mode.02:26
gnudecafuego, do all irc channels have an ubotu?02:26
mweredhook: I guess I got poor Berg locked out or something by making him press ctrl-alt-bs after editing xorg.conf. he didn't come back :)02:26
ompaulno02:26
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pa_lSanne iam currently using gnome, i will go over to KDE wait a min.02:27
cafuegognude: No. ubotu is on a few ubuntu-related channels. Others channels may have a different bot running the same software, though.02:27
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tafsenrobotgeek: I neither have a .xinitrc file or a .xsession file =\ What does that mean?02:28
kremonteto add things to gnome session start, go to System -> Preferences -> Session, tafsen02:28
B_166-ER-X!paste02:28
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:28
robotgeektafsen: how are u using openbox, in gnome or standalone?02:29
Storkmenow that i can game, ubuntu owns :)02:29
ompaulcafuego, what is the message the bot factoid?02:29
Hobbsee!tell ompaul about msgthebot02:29
ompaulStorkme, that is slightly better than the way you were talking last nigh02:29
B_166-ER-Xif someone is good with things about 'sensors'  i wonder whats my problem /what to do next.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/671202:29
tafsenrobotgeek: I installed openbox trough apt-get and I chose OpenBOX when I logged on.02:30
ompaulHobbsee, I was thinking more for our new friends02:30
ompaul:-)02:30
cafuego!msg the bot02:30
Hobbsee!+msgthebot02:30
ubotuwell, msgthebot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know know whether some factoid exists.)02:30
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tafsenrobotgeek: using Ubuntu 5.1002:30
ompaulthats the one02:30
robotgeektafsen: hmm, okay02:30
Bergalright02:30
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Bergso what should I do in window manager?02:30
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ompaulBerg, try ctrl+alt++ see if you get the fonts you want02:31
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robotgeekcafuego: i tht !lart was removed?02:31
Bergctrl+alt+what?02:31
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ompaulBerg, you can cycle through that02:31
gnudeiKernel, what is binutils?02:31
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ompaulBerg, plus02:31
netstardoes grub need anything loading into the mBR like lilo, or just edit menu.lst?02:31
pa_lSanne iam using KDE now, where did you say i should go into?02:31
iKernelgnude: Lemme give binutils to ubotu02:32
Bergnothing whith ctrl+alt++02:32
tafsenrobotgeek: Does that make any sence? :P02:32
gnudeiKernel,  should I query the bot in a minute or what?02:32
Bergshould I just unintall this OS and go back to windows where I belong?02:32
robotgeektafsen: yes, it does02:32
Sannepa_l: an aside: you were gone so quickly, you could just have staerted kcontrol, or even access the settings from the konqueror sidebar (just so you know)02:32
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iKernel!binutils02:32
ubotuit has been said that binutils is the GNU binary utilities (BFD development files)02:32
iKernelthere you go.02:33
Sannepa_l: go to Internet&Network/Connection Preferences. There's FTP Options for passive mode.02:33
Bergshould I?02:33
Bergor is linux THAT much....02:33
gnudeiKernel,  how did you get that into ubotu ??02:33
Bergis linux worth it in the end?02:33
iKernelgnude: Not telling :D02:33
kremontehm. wierd. at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage , there's ubotu forum <topic id>. it seem's that's been replaced02:33
SanneBerg: yes!02:33
tafsenrobotgeek: you know what to do then?02:33
kremontefunctionality still there and someone just broke it?02:33
ompaulBerg, no, it is worth it from the beginning :)02:33
Sanneompaul: right :)02:33
robotgeektafsen: i'm looking :)02:33
Bergso goodbye02:33
ompaulBerg, where exactly city wise are you on planet earth02:34
gnudeiKernel,  Okay, but are you an Ubuntu owner or something, or can anyone brainwash the bot?02:34
cafuegokremonte: Maybe disabled, certainly not replaced.02:34
BergOsceola WI02:34
punkassis there a specific dapper irc room for ubuntu?02:34
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iKernelgnude: Not telling :D02:34
Bergoriginally from Iceland02:34
ompaulBerg, what is WI please remember we do not all understand that shorthand02:34
BergWisconsin02:34
cafuegognude: Ubotu is a like a wiki, anyone can make changes. (The changes are logged though)02:34
Bergsry02:34
tafsenrobotgeek: Ok :) thx02:35
pa_lok Sanne what next. i can see File sharing02:35
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gnudecafuego,  thx ... still readin tutotial.  thx02:35
ompaulBerg, it is worth it I want to hook you up with your local lug and then you can most likely get some one local to help you over the starting bumps02:35
Sannepa_l: where are you now?02:35
kremontecafuego: well if someone overwrote the forum command, how to get the functionality back? =P02:35
kremonte!forum02:35
ubotuit has been said that forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org02:35
Bergwhat is so much better about linux for the average CPU user?02:35
kremonteBerg: lots? heh :-)02:35
pa_lKcontrol, Internet & Networking and Filesharing02:35
Berglike what?02:35
kremonteit's all free?02:36
Bergwell....I can always use limewire02:36
cafuegoBerg: it doesn't get infected with adware and spyware within 30 seconds of first bootup.02:36
tafsenI got this(error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)02:36
tafsen)  error when I tried to install something with Python, any idea of what's wrong?02:36
kremonteBerg: windows + limewire?02:36
Bergthats why we have firewalls02:36
kremontepiracy is not legal02:36
cafuegoBerg: Nor do yuo have to pay $100 a year to make sure it doesn't happen.02:36
Bergfine02:36
cafuegoBerg: The windows firewall is shit and others cost money.02:36
pa_lSanne in connection preference you said passive mode?02:36
Bergwell is there a chance I can get local help?02:36
Sannepa_l: on my kcontrol, I have "Internet & Network", and the first option under that is "Connection Preferences". That's what we want.02:36
Sannepa_l: yes02:37
kremonte$200 for windows, and 90% of the software is proprietary, while there is very few pieces of pay-to-use software on linux02:37
robotgeektafsen: sorry, i dunno the answer right now02:37
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iKernelAnd if you want to know what gnu is...02:37
Bergcould geeksquad help?02:37
pa_lpassive mode is already enabled same is mark partially upload02:37
iKernel!gnu02:37
ubotufrom memory, gnu is an ancronym for GNU's Not UNIX. It is an organization devoted to the creation and support of Open Source software.02:37
cafuegoBerg: Many people don't mind; I do.02:37
robotgeektafsen: /etc/gdm/Sessions/openbox maybe02:37
Bergmind what?02:37
Bergpaying?02:37
Bergyeah I guess02:37
cafuegoBerg: needlessly paying.02:37
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Sannepa_l: please state my nich when replying, otherwise I might miss what you say.02:38
kremontefrom asking around locally, most people i seem to encounter think, #1 computers are expensive business, and #2 adware/spyware/virii are a fact of life02:38
Sannepa_l: try with passive mode disabled.02:38
ompaulBerg, are these locations any where near you? http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms?&cc=US&rc=WI02:38
pa_lSanne sorrt for that, what now?02:38
Sannepa_l: try with passive mode disabled.02:38
Unityi can't play divx video the picture appears entirely black but the sound plays. which pacjage should i install? i already installed w32codecs02:38
Bergwell does linux have an X to .mp4 converter?02:38
Bergcan it play my games?02:38
tafsenrobotgeek: nope =\ only PostSession and PreSession :(02:39
kremonteBerg:  yes02:39
kremontemost02:39
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kremontehttp://appdb.winehq.com/02:39
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gnude!newlib02:39
ubotugnude: Wish i knew02:39
robotgeektafsen: hmm, sorry i am quite lost. i havent changed stuff in a while02:39
Berghow can it play americas army?02:39
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cafuegoBerg: Would you play WIndows games on a Mac?02:39
robotgeektafsen: i use openbox, but in Gnome02:39
Bergno02:39
cafuegoBerg: Would you expect them to work?02:39
Bergon02:39
Bergno02:39
cafuegoWell then.02:39
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SanneBerg: americas army is native for Linux, iirc.02:40
cafuego(Yes, Linux *can* play your game and yes, it *does* do mp4 ;-)02:40
Bergkewl02:40
tafsenrobotgeek: how can I use openbox in gnome? and will it improve the speed?02:40
kremonteif you aren't ready for linux's learning curve then i wouldn't quite be expecting to play bleeding edge windows games02:40
robotgeektafsen: yes, it does imporove the speed02:40
Bergso maybe if I find linux help locally I should just use that02:40
cafuegoBerg: For windoze games there's a cedega (not free, but cheaper than windows!)02:40
kremontecvscedega ;-)02:40
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Bergwhat is a cedega?02:40
ompaulBerg, did you check the url I gave? was it any use?02:40
cafuego!cedega02:40
ubotucedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/02:41
Bergno I dont think so02:41
Unitycafuego: cedega isn't perfect02:41
ompaulBerg, are these locations any where near you? http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms?&cc=US&rc=WI02:41
Bergcould you check minnesota?02:41
tafsenrobotgeek: ok :) maybee I just do it your way then =) How do I do it? :P02:41
cafuegoUnity: No, but at least it doesn't hijack your machine with pr0nspam ;-)02:41
ompaulis there02:41
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gnude!toggle tabs in mozilla02:41
ubotugnude: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:41
Unitycafuego: even after a lot of configuration, some games just wont work02:41
BergI live like close to the border of the two02:41
kremonteyup02:41
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pa_lSanne its  stalling again. i should try another  ftp program02:42
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cafuegoUnity: Well, like I said: Would you expect to run windoze games on macos?02:42
pa_ldoes firefox have one?02:42
kremonteUnity: that's when you bug the devs for linux port!02:42
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ompaulBerg, have a look at that http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms?&cc=US&rc=MN02:42
kremontepa_l: FireFTP is an extension for firefox02:42
robotgeektafsen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239&highlight=openbox02:42
Unitywe neeed to reverse engineer a whole bunch of games into linux code02:42
Sannepa_l: hmmm, maybe the problem is on the server side? There's "ftp" on the command line, if you're up to that, though...02:42
ompaul!tell gnude about msgthebot02:42
Bergyep02:42
Bergclose enough02:42
Bergabout a 1hr ride02:42
Bergor less02:42
kremontei fixed msgthebot to have <reply> =P02:42
ompaulgnude, read the msg from the bot02:42
Bergso I should bring my computer there?02:43
ompaulBerg, mail them and talk to them02:43
kremonteBerg:  what problem are you having in the first place, may i ask?02:43
Bergvideo card trouble02:43
kremonteah02:43
tafsenrobotgeek: thx02:43
ompaulBerg, what size monitor have you got?02:43
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pa_lThanks anyway Sanne02:44
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Sannepaddel: you're wel... dang02:44
BergIDK around 24 inches up02:44
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Sannepaddel: sorry02:45
Unitywhat are some of the most cpu-intensive games that aro in the repos? like quake2?02:45
iKernel!spam02:45
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netstarhave msttcorefonts been disabled?02:45
iKernel!info spam02:45
netstar"Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:45
netstarThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:45
netstaris only available from another source02:45
netstar"02:45
ompauliKernel, message the bot please we don't need it to tell us02:46
iKernel:D02:46
Sannenetstar: it's in multiverse02:46
Unitynetstar: don1t paste here!02:46
Bergso let me get this straight...I should contact this person who IDK at ALL and then have them help me?02:46
naliothnetstar: please read the /topic (and use a pastebin for pasting)02:46
Bergpersonallu02:46
netstarSanne, I see.02:46
netstarthanks02:46
Bergpersonally02:46
Sannenetstar: you're welcome02:46
BergI dont think my dad will let me do that -_-02:46
ompaulnetstar, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:46
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ompaulBerg, so you ask your dad to contact them for you he can take control of the conversation02:47
kremonteBerg: i am 14 =P02:47
Hobbsee!tell netstar about msttcorefonts02:47
cafuegoStop making me feel old.02:47
cafuegoOr I'll spank you.02:48
kremonteoh, not at all02:48
Unityi'm eight!02:48
BergI know my parents well enough that I know they will NEVER agree with iths02:48
Bergthis02:48
kremontei'm a young wabbit02:48
ompaulcafuego, you are only a youngster02:48
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cafuegoBerg: Oh come on, you cna trust an unshaven stranger...02:48
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Unitywhere do i go to get help on the quake2 port? beacuse i am getting this error when i do `quake2` in a shell: Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx02:48
Berg-_-02:48
Berg"unshaven"?02:49
IdleOneanybody know how to get java working on ppc?02:49
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cafuegoompaul: I can remember the 70's mate - not that I'm particularly happy about that ;-)02:49
ompaulcafuego, :)02:49
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Berglol02:49
cafuegoIdleOne: IBM have a jre/j2sdk 1.5 preview (bit buggy still)02:49
ompaulcafuego, I was alive when JFK was shot02:49
cafuegoompaul: is that a confession?02:50
kremontei was alive when CLINTON was prez!!!!02:50
kremontewewt02:50
naliothubotu: tell IdleOne about javedebs02:50
SanneBerg: another possibility is, find the info on the net and read everything you can get your hands on (the ubuntu wiki is a good start). You *can* teach yourself using Linux. I did once.02:50
nalioth!offtopic02:50
ubotusomebody said offtopic was Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!02:50
Bergo rly?02:50
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IdleOnenalioth tried the javadebs it doesnt work :|02:50
ompaulnalioth, ack02:50
Bergwell its just one of those things that I will learn in time02:50
_Antar_hey guys02:50
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_Antar_i have a question02:50
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_Antar_right quick02:50
Bergbut honestly02:50
SanneBerg: and I'm a girl, even ;)02:50
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Bergcould the geeksquad help me?02:50
gnomefreakubotu tell IdleOne about java02:51
BergI am going to bestbuy tomorrow02:51
Berggetting a new router02:51
Berg:D02:51
naliothIdleOne: if you read the info ubotu sent, there are java debs for ppc02:51
kremontewhat problem are you having with your graphics card, anyhow?02:51
BergI cant install it02:51
Berg-_-\02:51
_Antar_Since I have installed and removed KDE my root windows look realy ugly in Gnome02:51
dfgashow do i import a sql file into a database?02:51
kremontewhy not? =S02:51
_Antar_they used to fallow the theme i was runing02:51
Bergcomplicated02:51
_Antar_but now they are all ugly gtk themes02:51
kremontedon't know how, physically?02:51
dfgashow do i import a sql file into a database? brand new database because of new install02:51
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Sannedfgas: if it's mysql, you can use phpmyadmin for that.02:52
kremontewell, depends what you want to learn with linux ;)02:52
kremontethe local bestbuy's geeksquad is pretty clueless about linux02:52
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Bergare they only windows or do they work all around?02:52
kremontei think there's like, one person who uses mandriva02:52
kremonteand that's about it ><02:52
cafuego!start a language war02:52
Bergoh02:52
ubotubahasa is far more elegant than german02:52
naliothBerg: join #ubuntu-offtopic please02:52
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iKernel:( Ubotu asked me if I am on ritilan. So what if I am? >:(02:53
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cafuegoiKernel: Then you have bad/irresponsible parents.02:53
Sannedfgas: there's also a shell command for that, but I don't know offhand. Try man mysql.02:53
gnomefreakiKernel, feel lucky im always on crack to ubotu :(02:53
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ompauliKernel, please your keep your conversation with ubotu confidential02:54
Sanneevery language is more elegant than german :(02:54
iKernelcafuego: Sorry, you're dead wrong. I'd have bad/irresponsible parents if i WASN'T on ritalin.02:54
_Antar_who are my root windows ugly now?02:54
kremontenein!02:54
Sannedoch! ;)02:54
kremontei don't even know what doch means :-(02:54
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ompaul!de02:54
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de02:54
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kremontewoohoo, half my open apps just crashed02:54
Sannekremonte: something like "on the contrary, with a vengance" ;)02:55
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naliothiKernel: Sanne: #ubuntu-offtopic please02:55
Sannesorry02:55
tafsenrobotgeek: How do I get the OpenBOX menu?02:55
iKernelompaul: Ok.02:55
robotgeektafsen: right click?02:55
cupOcocoaSynaptic couldn't stat my repo's :'(02:55
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robotgeektafsen: oh, you are using gnome, right? you need to disable nautilus drawing root windows02:55
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mase_wheres the kernel source located? its not in /usr/src/02:56
ompaulcupOcocoa, is there a second synaptic open?02:56
tafsenrobotgeek: ohh...02:56
cupOcocoanope02:56
rhythminmindwhat base packages do i need to install to configure apps from source?02:56
SweetestSavageCan someone explain why this HTTP Cache Cleaner randomly runs every now and then? It's rather annoying..02:56
robotgeekSweetestSavage: good question, i want to know why too :)02:57
ompaulcupOcocoa, paste you /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then tell me the url please02:57
kremonteany idea what the monitors are in this ss? (top left, mid-right) http://icculus.org/openbox/shots/full/cronos.jpg02:57
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cafuegorhythminmind: build-essential at a minimum. Any depends for said package too. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall02:57
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Sannedfgas: oh, here it is (in man mysql):  mysql  database < backup-file.sql02:57
bradley_help!!! ;)02:57
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ompaul!anyone02:57
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>02:57
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bradley_i can't connect to the web using my ubuntu box...02:58
bradley_i have a network and all other boxers are working...02:58
esiqueirahi there02:58
ompaulbradley_, what kind of network connection has it got?02:58
bradley_cable02:58
maple-techiedoes anyone here know about ubuntu?02:58
Berginator.action is about to reinstall windows02:59
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Berginatorso long and thanks for all the fish02:59
iKernelShould I use the kernel framebuffer device?02:59
ompaulbradley_, from the menu >>system adminstartion networking<<02:59
SweetestSavageBerginator.. heh, are you suggesting the Linux world is about to explode? ;)02:59
gnomefreakiKernel, yes02:59
Berginatoryes02:59
kremonteany idea what the monitors are in this ss? (top left, mid-right) http://icculus.org/openbox/shots/full/cronos.jpg02:59
Berginatormaybe I will meet you in 20 years02:59
iKernelgnomefreak: For 3D gaming?02:59
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gnomefreakit says yes unless you have problems with it lol02:59
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Berginatorthen I can MAYBE handle the awesome power of linux02:59
bradley_got it02:59
iKernelok02:59
ompaul!tell maple-techie about ask02:59
ompaulmaple-techie, read the message from the bot03:00
tafsenrobotgeek: How do I make the "openbox --replace" permently?03:00
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robotgeektafsen: i have it start in my sessions, System -> Preferences -> sessions03:00
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IdleOne!pastebin03:01
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:01
bradley_now...03:01
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cupOcocoahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/671303:01
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Madpilothi all03:01
cupOcocoahere it is...03:01
cyphaseis the dapper installer going to have a GUI option?03:02
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woodgrainis there a stock developer kit for ubuntu?03:02
cyphaseand if so, are there any screenshots?03:02
gnomefreakcupOcocoa, remove the # infront of the deb://http03:02
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6714  can someone look at that and tell me what my next step should be?03:02
woodgrainUbuntu doesn't come with gcc, does it?03:02
dutchgood night all03:02
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gnomefreakcyphase, dapper installer is pretty much the same as breezy03:02
gnomefreakubotu tell woodgrain about gcc03:03
cyphasewasn't there talk about a GUI installer?03:03
cyphaseor was that for dapper+1?03:03
woodgraingnomefreak,  why is gcc not inc w/ ubuntu03:03
ompaulcupOcocoa, that works from here - I wonder would you care to try this in a web browser >>>http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/<<03:03
gnomefreakcyphase, what would you call the breezy installer? and if not gui seeing as dapper has 4 months to go it might03:03
crimsunbecause it's a desktop distro, not a devel distro.03:04
crimsuninstall build-essential if you want them.03:04
cyphasewoodgrain, just install it03:04
gnomefreakwoodgrain, it is look in synaptic search for gcc03:04
cyphasesudo apt-get install gcc03:04
cyphaseor synaptic03:04
SweetestSavagecyphase, he meant why isn't it pre-installed03:04
cyphaseyea, i know03:04
linlinsudo apt-get install build-essential ?03:04
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woodgraingnomefreak, cyphase, I already installed gcc -- WHY is it left out of the OS?03:04
cupOcocoaompaul, whats i do with it?03:04
cyphasewoodgrain, because most people don't use it03:04
TokenBadhow compile c file on ubuntu?03:04
gnomefreakgcc4.9 is installed by default but gcc base is not becaused its used to compile03:05
ompaulwoodgrain, it is not left out, it is just not installed as part of the base03:05
gnomefreak4.003:05
woodgrainTokenBad, get gcc !!!03:05
TokenBadI have gcc03:05
woodgrainompaul, why not a part of base/03:05
ompaulcupOcocoa, put it in a web browser03:05
gnomefreakTokenBad, sudo apt-get build-essential03:05
cyphasewoodgrain, because most people don't use it03:05
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cupOcocoalol03:05
TokenBadI have gcc but how use it to compile a c file?03:05
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Malachiwoodgrain, sudo apt-get build-essential03:05
woodgrainompaul, I heard there were a class of 'self-compiling' viruses that use gcc ... any truth?03:05
gnomefreakwoodgrain, other than compiling you wont need gcc for anything03:05
ompaulwoodgrain, if you need it you will get it rather quickly but most people who use linux don;t want it03:06
linlingcc sourcefile -o binaryfile03:06
Unitydid anyone install quake2 and discover that colormap.pcx doesn't exist?03:06
cyphasewoodgrain, not everyone is a developer, and not everyone develops in language that use gcc03:06
IdleOnehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6714  can someone look at that and tell me what my next step should be? please03:06
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cyphaselike python03:06
gnomefreaksourcefile = file.c binaryfile =file03:06
cupOcocoawell synaptic is being nice now, thanks...03:07
woodgraincyphase, or ARM assembly!03:07
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ompaulwoodgrain, yeah Linux users :-0 they are a virus according to some company in redmond :) and no I never head of such a beastie03:07
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woodgrainompaul, I heard this (ianm) from ubuntu users on an electronics IRC.03:07
ompaulwoodgrain, got a reference point for it?03:07
woodgrainompaul,  long ago.03:07
chmod775!new03:08
ubotuchmod775: Wish i knew03:08
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ompaulwoodgrain, well I guess it ain't come to pass that I know of03:08
B_166-ER-Xhow do i install a .deb ?03:08
ompaul!tell IdleOne about java03:08
woodgrainompaul, THE POWER OF FEAR -- it gets us all sometimes.03:08
chmod775!wine03:09
cyphaseB-166-ER-Xsudo dpkg -i package.deb03:09
cyphaseoops03:09
cyphaseB-166-ER-X, sudo dpkg -i package.deb03:09
ompaulIdleOne, that message from the bot will give you useful info for what you are trying to do03:09
woodgrainompaul, how many people are using ubunt?  I love this shnizzy.03:09
chmod775!!art03:09
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chmod77503:09
chmod775!rt03:09
ubotuchmod775: I don't know, could you explain it?03:09
B_166-ER-Xthx03:09
tafsen!art03:09
ompaulwoodgrain, #ubuntu-offtopic03:09
uboturumour has it, art is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork03:09
chmod775!gnome-art03:09
ubotuchmod775: I don't know, could you explain it?03:09
tafsen:P03:09
chmod775;PPPPPPPPPPP03:10
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indigoi have a question: I've gotten my bluetooth dongle working, and I see my mouse when i run 'hcitool scan' (actually it just worked by default :) ), but it stops short of moving the pointer on the screen. I think it might be because I need a pin to pair with the mouse, or something. Anyone know what I might try next?03:11
rhythminmindanyone know why i would be getting a (    urb status -79  ) what i try to shutdown or reboot... it's only doing thing after i installed my new nvida card... i did a clean install and same thing03:11
rhythminmindwhat = when03:11
bradley_can i reset my connection somehow? a repair connection in windows?03:12
indigorhythminmind: i don't have an nvidia card, but I do have an nforce motherboard, and i was getting the same thing03:12
rhythminmindbradley - network-admin03:12
rhythminmindit's weird it worked fine with the ati card03:13
indigorhythminmind: i think it went away when i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.14-3, but i reboot so rarely i'm not sure :)03:13
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IdleOneompaul,  thank for the info but I have tried and keep getting an error03:13
bradley_i deactivated my conection and then reactivated it... still no luck03:13
rhythminmindeverything else works great03:13
rhythminmindbut i cant reboot03:13
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ompaulohh well03:14
baubbaHello everyone, I've installed ubuntu as my workstation/standalone samba server. I have a samba domain server working fine. I've installed the samba repsitory from samba.org, and updated samba. I've installed webmin, and swat. My problem is that I like to use swat inplace of webmin's version of Samba administrator. If I log on to swat (through webmin) using my user name, I can't configure samba, I don't get all the icons. I think I need to log i03:14
baubban as root. Is there a work around this03:14
chmod775!ubotu03:15
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ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.03:15
rhythminmindi unfortunately have to switch back to XP on a dual boot for my audio production work.. but i'm in ubuntu for everyday use03:15
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chmod775!file auto.msc03:16
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j2daoshhello again everyone. as usual i have another question (what a shock huh?). how do i fix a "broken package"? i tried using the fix broken package option in synaptic but it didn't work and i have been unable to figure out how to get the w32codecs03:16
misfit_toy!w32codecs03:16
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install03:16
chmod775hey does anyone know how to control the services loaded at startup03:16
chmod775?03:16
chmod775hey does anyone know how to control the services loaded at startup03:16
chmod775?03:16
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Eleafhi03:17
Eleaflol03:17
punkassyou can use BUM if believe03:17
chmod775what03:17
punkassBootUpManager03:17
chmod775?03:17
punkassits in synaptic03:17
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Sannechmod775: or services-admin, or rcconf, or sysv-rc-conf03:17
chmod775is there any other package installed by default03:17
EleafDoes anybody know how to change the ubuntu image at boot?03:17
Eleaf= )03:17
netstaris there anyway to install xchat 2.6 without building from source?03:17
Sannechmod775: you have the services-admin somewhere from the panel.03:17
punkasswell as Sanne said there is the command line stuff, but if you want a simple gui BUM works03:17
misfit_toyEleaf, there is a howto at http://ubuntuforums.org03:18
MalachiWould anyone happen to have the mozilla-mplayer deb file?03:18
rhythminmindchmod - init.d or use webmin as a gui03:18
MalachiDebian's down at the moment...03:18
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woodgrainMalachi, what is build-essential?03:19
SanneMalachi: mozilla-mplayer is in multiverse03:19
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Kindredhas anyone mounted shared memory to /dev/shm .. i'm wondering if it is normal to need to do this..03:19
MalachiSanne: Oh...didn't know that ;)03:20
j2daoshtranscode: Depends: libfame-0.9 but it is not going to be installed03:20
j2daosh....that is the problem i seem to keep encountering anytime i try to get anything that concerns a nonfree codec... how do i fix that03:20
SanneMalachi: :)03:20
chmod775how do I speed up the bootup in ubuntu03:20
chmod775it's a bit slow03:20
Malachiwoodgrain: build-essential is a collections of developing tools, like gcc03:20
Malachiwoodgrain: It's *essential* for compiling source03:20
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woodgrainMalachi, does it inc. gcc and all or is it sep?03:21
shadeofgreyokay guys03:21
chmod775how do I see which file delongs to which package03:21
chmod775?03:21
Eleafmisfit_toy, oooewww lol03:21
shadeofgreyi need help on this one...  i JUST bought a new usb2.0 hub for my desk03:21
jendachmod775: Have a look at the forum (for the boot process)03:22
chmod775in redhat ur have the option rpm -qf03:22
shadeofgreyand for the first two days it worked flawlessly03:22
robotgeekchmod775: dpkg -S <file>03:22
chmod775!boot03:22
ubotuchmod775: I give up, what is it?03:22
Eleafmisfit_toy, just somewhere randomly on the forum eh?03:22
j2daoshi have a broken package contained in the libfame-0.9 but i dont know how to fix it... or even uninstall it and fix it for that matter.03:22
shadeofgrey but now, every time i insert my 512 meg usb drive, it doesnt get hit by hotrplug and show up on the desktop anymore03:22
crimsunj2daosh: remove the package.03:22
shadeofgreyhow do i troubleshoot thgis?  ive never EVER seen ubuntu NOT recognise a USB device before03:23
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MalachiSanne: It won't install...does it not like my version of Mplayer?03:23
MalachiSanne: mplayer itself isn't in there.03:23
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chmod775robotgeek, not working ?03:23
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j2daoshalso... i have excess keys in my sources list that apparantly aren't correct or aren't needed because anything i do a sudo apt-get install/upgrade it gives me errors about my keys... how do i take those keys out or upgrade them?03:23
Eleafmisfit_toy, ?03:23
rhythminmindshadeofgrey - do you see it in disks-admin?03:24
Malachiwoodgrain: it's all in there, along with a bunch of other stuff.03:24
rhythminmindis it just not mounted?03:24
misfit_toyEleaf, let me use minutes of my life to make SEARCHING easier for you, please hold.03:24
shadeofgreyryth:  yes03:24
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j2daoshcrimsun, but if i remove the package how am i supposed to reinstall? i get errors saying the package is also located in another package and im not trying to have my programs messed up because i accidently depeted a dependency03:24
shadeofgreyrhythminmind:  yes03:24
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Eleafmisfit_toy, I'll figure it out myself03:24
j2daoshby jenda03:24
woodgrainMalachi, that rules ... does it default to unstable?03:25
jenda-zZznight j2daosh :)03:25
EleafI found how to change the color misfit_toy  lol03:25
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crimsunj2daosh: if you use ``apt-get remove foo'' to remove the package foo, it removes dependencies automatically03:25
misfit_toyEleaf, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835&highlight=boot+image03:25
rhythminmindok well lck on the partition and pick a folder to mount it in... like /media/usbdrive03:25
Malachiwoodgrain: Don't think so, but don't quote me on that.03:25
rhythminmindpick03:25
rhythminmindthen click enable03:25
bradley_do i need to adjust any settings under hosts?03:25
Eleafmisfit_toy, = )  You get a celery stick as a reward.  Thanks03:26
j2daoshbut the thing is crimsun i dont want to delete a package if other programs depend on it also. then i will not only have one broken package but also broken programs and the like... correct?03:26
shadeofgreyi can see it from the disks area of administration03:26
shadeofgreybut it wont pop up on the desktop or anything03:26
shadeofgreyandit worked flawlessly a few days ago03:26
MalachiHow do you uninstall a program you've compiled?03:26
misfit_toyEleaf, it's ok, I have a bottle of wine, I never had a celery stick in my life and I'm not starting now.03:26
SanneMalachi: I see mplayer-* in Synaptic (* = 386, 686 etc). I haven't installed it yet, so I'm afraid I won't be able to help further, sorry.03:26
j2daoshshade... u need to add it to your fstab and then you can do a sudo mount03:26
shadeofgreyand as far as i can tell my system hasnt changed at all as far as config files are concerned or anything03:27
woodgraindoes anyone here run ubuntu on ARM7 platforms?03:27
sethkshadeofgrey, sounds like you mucked up your automounting03:27
j2daoshor if it is in your fstab just try a sudo mount -a03:27
Eleafmisfit_toy, are you serious?03:27
Eleaf=p03:27
shadeofgreysethk:  how is a problem like that resolved?03:27
Eleafmisfit_toy, enjoy!03:27
shadeofgreyi really have to get this working NOW03:27
misfit_toyEleaf, the only time I've even seen a celery stick was in a bloody mary, and I hate those.03:27
shadeofgreyi have to fedex my 600 page manuscript to my new agent by 8am tomorrow03:27
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sethkshadeofgrey, just mount it by hand, instead of it automounting03:28
shadeofgreyand the usb drive is the only place i have the final draft pn03:28
vegalabsanyone use tetex with languages other than english?03:28
shadeofgreysthk:  how do i accomplisdh that?03:28
sethkshadeofgrey, mount it using mount from the command line03:28
rhythminmindwell just browse it from disks-admin and copy it over locally03:28
MalachiSanne: Are you sure? It's not in mine....03:28
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SanneMalachi: I will update, sec03:28
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xenoxhello03:28
MalachiSanne: Both Multi and Universe are installed....still don't see it.03:28
shadeofgreywhat would the command be assuming the drive was marked /dev/sdc?03:29
sethkshadeofgrey, mounting it?  if it is in fstab, all you have to do is   mount /media/usbdisk03:29
xenoxi'm a new ubunt user03:29
sethkshadeofgrey, if it isn't in fstab I'll tell you how, but check first03:29
xenoxand i have some problems :-(03:29
SanneMalachi: yes, I've got them. Let me check my sources.list.03:29
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sethkshadeofgrey, probably it isn't, so...03:29
j2daoshshadeofgrey, sudo vi /etc/fstab .... add /dev/sda1 (tab) /media/USB (tab) vfat (tab) defaults (tab) 0 (tab) 003:29
IdleOne!javadebs03:29
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:29
j2daoshdont put the tabs in03:30
sethkshadeofgrey, you'll do   mount -t whatever /dev/sda1 /some/mount/point03:30
shadeofgreyhow do i check fstab?  iuve never used that before03:30
sethkshadeofgrey, forget that, automounts don't go in there, so forget I mentioned it03:30
shadeofgreyokay03:30
sethkshadeofgrey, the -t whatever depends on how it is formatted03:30
sethkshadeofgrey, e.g.   mount -t vfat3 /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdisk03:30
sethkshadeofgrey, the directory can be any empty directory, but /media/usbdisk is where mine gets automounted so you probably have that directory03:31
mase_!java03:31
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:31
mase_!javadebs03:31
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:31
SanneMalachi: nothing extraordinary in my sources.list03:32
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MalachiHmm.....03:32
xenoxif i try to edit my xorg.conf. and i want to save with ":ws" comes the error msg "E319: Der Befehl ist in dieser Version nicht implementiert ". can anyone help me?03:32
B_166-ER-Xis there a way to know how many bandwidth i'm using on ubuntu ?03:32
rhythminmindauto apt is great... thanks03:32
MalachiSanne: I only see mozilla-mplayer....03:32
hydroksydeis there any way of connecting/disconnecting a PPP connection other that system-administration-networking?03:32
SanneMalachi: I'll paste my sources.list, sec03:33
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tr011hi! i all ready installed the mozilla-mplayer plugin, but it's not working, when i'm try to open a video, it always sendme the download window, how can i do this plugin work? (ubuntu 5.10)03:34
SanneMalachi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/671903:34
punkasson boot up where would the ipw2200 module be called from?03:34
xenoxhow can i save changes on my xorg.conf????03:35
robotgeekpunkass: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/03:35
j2daoshok dangit... crimsun, you said eariler something about deleting the package with apt-get remove foo... how does that work? commandwise? sudo apt-get remove foo libfame-0.9?03:35
MalachiSanne: You're right....03:35
punkassrobotgeek: yes that is the module but what calls it to load?03:35
SanneMalachi: I am?03:35
MalachiSanne: I don't know what the problem is, then...03:36
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MalachiSanne: I don't see anything I don't have...03:36
punkassMalachi, foo just stands for any package name03:36
MalachiSanne: Except the CD03:36
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robotgeekpunkass: modprobe ipw220003:36
xenohey is anyone able to help me up setting up a laptop with 915resolution?03:36
SanneMalachi: can't be the cd, because multiverse is not on it03:37
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crimsunj2daosh: s/foo//03:37
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j2daoshsay wha?03:37
punkassrebotgeek, ok what i want to do is on boot up somewhere ipw2200 gets called, what i want is to havce ipw2200 led=1 called instead03:37
B_166-ER-Xis there a way to know how many bandwidth i'm using on ubuntu ? like my 'total speed' right now  -live- ?03:37
maino82has anyone else had problems getting sendmail to actually send mail? like from a cgi email form or using php's built in functions?03:37
punkassxeno, sure how far along are ya03:37
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xenopunkass, i have 915installed and under root i used the command 915resolution 38 1280 800, then i added it to /etc/init.d/boot.local but it didnt' work at bot03:38
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punkasswhat did you add to boot.local?03:39
ajmitchxeno: becaus eyou have to add it to /etc/default/915resolution03:39
xenoi just deleted it because it didint' work03:39
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xenobut i think it was usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 80003:39
PMantisWhat firewall config tools are recommended for a laptop install? Firestarter isn't good enough for my use.03:39
punkassajmitch, i tried using the default file and it wasnt working for me i created my own init03:39
ajmitchxeno: don't do that then :)03:39
xenodo i have to create some kind of script to run boot.local at startup?03:39
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ajmitchpunkass: worked for me, I setup this laptop yesterday03:39
punkassajmitch: breezy or dapper?03:40
ajmitchdapper03:40
Steve|hey guys, when i was trying to install a driver on ubuntu, i read the readme and i told me to type "make menuconfig" but i don't any kernal sources apparently..... so how would i go abouts installing this driver (i'm new to the whole linux thing)03:40
sorush20guys I keep getting this error any help please?03:40
punkassinteresting, didnt work for me...ah well ill do a reinstall when flight3 is out03:40
sorush20http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/672003:40
xenoajmitch, how do i get 915resolution to work at boot?03:40
IdleOne!javadebs03:40
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:40
IdleOne!java03:41
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:41
j2daoshwhat was that command crimsun?03:41
ajmitchxeno: are you using the deb from dapper? if so, it reads /etc/default/915resolution at boot03:41
xenoim using breezy03:41
PMantisSteve|, Normally, you'll have to have the "kernel headers" installed, then patch the Makefile to include the new code. turn it on with "make menuconfig" then "make" to compile, etc.03:41
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Steve|yeah it says i have no c compiler03:42
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PMantisSteve|, Install gcc03:42
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ajmitchxeno: is that package in breezy?03:42
Steve|PMantis: how do i do that and where can i get it?03:42
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PMantisSteve|, sudo apt-get install gcc03:42
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xenoajmitch, no i had to get 915resolution-0.5-1 debian package03:42
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_jasonSteve|, install the build-essential package, it will give you gcc and other stuff you need to build03:42
ajmitchxeno: that's your problem then03:43
Steve|_jason: how?03:43
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xenoajmitch,  how should i set this up then03:43
ajmitchxeno: the debian package won't start 915resolution early enough03:43
PMantis_jason, Ahhh, dependencies... nice03:43
xenoajmitch, how do i set it up so it does then03:43
SanneSteve|: are you sure you need to start off with compiling kernel modules? Which driver is it? Maybe you just need to load the module that is already present?03:43
Eleaflol03:43
Steve|Sanne: atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz203:43
PMantisSteve|, sudo apt-get install build-essential03:43
_jasonSteve|, you can use synaptic to search for it if you want, or: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:43
mlalkakawhat's the difference between linux-headers and linux-source? i know that the linux-headers packages only provide the header files of the linux-source. but when would you use linux-headers and when would you use linux-source?03:44
CSeymouri have the dumbest question ever... on Mac OS X, how do i get the Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD to boot?03:44
ajmitchxeno: get the package from dapper instead, or rename the file in /etc/rc2.d so that it's S12915resolution03:44
tafsenrobotgeek: do you use feh?03:44
Steve|_jason and PMantis: does that require an internet connection or anything? because at the moment i'm on my windows partition and i'm trying to install my wireless lan card on ubuntu03:44
xenoajmitch, how do i rename it in /etc/rc2.d03:45
punkassxeno: what i did was created a file called  /etc/init/run915 and in it put: #!/bin/sh03:45
punkass/usr/sbin/915resolution 5c 1280 80003:45
RusczykAlguien habla espaol aqui?03:45
_jasonSteve|, it should be available through the cd03:45
Steve|ah ok03:45
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SanneSteve|: ah, for wlan... don't have it, but this seems to be a situation where you might need to compile. Ok, I just wanted to make sure you won't go through this unnecessarily, since you're new.03:45
punkassxeno: then did a  ln -s /etc/init/run915 /etc/rcS.d/S40run91503:45
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Steve|i see, thanks03:45
HomeDawgDoes anyone know what would cause "No directory, logging in with HOME=/" to occur?03:45
punkassxeno: whether thats the right way or not i am not sure, but it works for me03:45
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lapuckyhmmm... I've got an ISO with corrupt packages (more than one) and I've already installd from it.  Is there a simple way to check the integrity of all installed packages without finding an official checksum for each on the Internet?03:46
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xenopunkass, im so lost to as how that would work03:46
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tafsenanyone here that knows Feh?03:46
PMantisFirestarter doesn't seem to work for dual NIC systems (LAN and WLAN). Any ideas for my laptop?03:46
punkassxeno: hehe03:46
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lapucky(and I all out of blank media -- for a while -- too)03:46
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chmod775what is transparency in gdeslkets03:46
chmod775?03:46
Steve|thanks guys, i'll just see if i can get access to a laptop so i can talk on here and fix up the ubuntu on this machine03:47
mlalkakaCSeymour, in order to get a computer to boot from a CD, the OS installed doesn't make a difference. all you have to do is put the CD in your cd-rom drive, and restart your computer. if that does not work, then you need to access your bios and change a setting so that your computer checks the cd-rom drive for a bootable CD.03:47
chmod775will the the whol desktop appear transarent03:47
xenopunkass, what i did was wget the package, and then dpkg it then i can just run 915resolution -l list my modes, change it to 1280x800 and im stuck there03:47
greenwomhey how do you install conflicting packages like Opera and Amarok03:47
PMantisSteve|, Good luck!!03:47
ajmitchpunkass: only do that if you want to leave a number of messy files around :)03:47
lapuckyWhat if I were to d/l the ISO w/o burning it and run diff vs. the damaged DVD?03:47
HomeDawgDoes anyone know what would cause "No directory, logging in with HOME=/" to occur?03:48
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j2daosh!pastebin03:48
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:48
punkassxeno: ajmitch..well at the time it was the only way i could get it to work right03:48
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tafsenanyone here that knows Feh? plz need some help03:48
chmod775!gdesklets03:48
ubotugDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/03:48
tafsen!feh03:48
ubotutafsen: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:48
ajmitchpunkass: the debian version starts at S20 in rc2.d, iirc03:49
chmod775!goodies03:49
ubotuchmod775: I give up, what is it?03:49
ajmitchpunkass: for dapper it needs to be S1203:49
Knowerrorsanyone know where to get libdivxdecore0 for ubuntu?03:49
bustacapI am getting this error when I try to test my WPA setup - ENGINE: ctrl cmd_string failed: LOAD (null) [error:25066067:DSO support routines:DLFCN_LOAD:could not load the shared library] 03:49
bustacaphas anyone seen this before?03:49
j2daoshcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6721  can u explain which package i need to delete and which one i need to install? i just want the w32codecs...03:49
punkassajmitch...well i am still running it from S40 in dapper and its workin fine03:49
mlalkakawhat's the difference between linux-headers and linux-source? i know that the linux-headers packages only provide the header files of the linux-source. but when would you use linux-headers and when would you use linux-source?03:50
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bustacapthe error is followed by SSL: Failed to initialize TLS context.03:50
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ajmitchpunkass: that's because you have it in rcS.d instead03:50
punkassah right03:50
Sannemlalkaka: for compiling kernel modules, the headers are mostly sufficient. If you want to build your own kernel, you need the source.03:51
chmod775hey transparency in gdekslets03:51
xenopunkass, check pm03:51
chmod775need composite manager03:51
chmod775how can I install it ?03:52
HomeDawgWhat would cause 'no directory, logging in with HOME=/'03:52
juliohi03:52
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chmod775hey transparency in gdekslets03:52
autocrosserapt-get xcompmgr03:52
chmod775how can I install it ?03:52
greenwomhow do you install conflicting packages like Opera and Amarok, they want to uninstall eachother03:52
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julioi downloaded the UNRAR.. but when i click in the UNRAR in the folder /rar/ the ubuntu doesnt does anything03:53
mlalkakaSanne, thanks for your help. i want to compile/install the spca50x module for my webcam, but i didn't want to install the whole kernel source unless i absolutely had to.03:53
autocrosserchmod775--look at the forums for vista effects03:53
chmod775how03:53
chmod775?03:53
_jasonjulio, are you attempting to install unrar so you can extract files from a .rar archive?03:53
chmod775xcompmgr is ask for a libcomposite03:53
julioyes!03:53
chmod775how do I install that03:53
chmod775what is the package name03:53
s10caseDoes anyone know if older versions of ubuntu are still getting much in the way of new packages?03:54
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autocrosserthen synaptic it03:54
_jasonjulio, there is a package called unrar-nonfree that will let you do that03:54
juliohow jason? i cant understand03:54
bustacaphas anyone got WPA running using the Prism54 driver?03:54
_jasonjulio, are you comfortable with using synaptic to install packages?03:54
s10caseor are new releases just done on the current version?03:54
Sannemlalkaka: if it's a kernel module, the headers might work. Is there a readme somewhere with the package? Most times it is stated what's necessary to compile.03:54
autocrosserbye!03:55
julioyes.. but i need extract my Pro Evolution Soccer 5.rar03:55
_jasonjulio, have you enabled multiverse?03:55
bustacapas opposed to Pro Creationism Soccer 6 :D03:55
slewis there a program for linux thats like quicken?03:55
mlalkakaSanne, the readme says that you need to have the source, but it also says it doesn't modify it. so i'm guessing the headers will still work.03:55
julioi dont know what is it!03:55
Sannes10case: the stable versions of ubuntu got no new releases of software, only bug fixes and security updates.03:55
_jasonubotu, tell julio about repos03:55
KeeganXHey everyone when I click to Direct Connect with people using GAIM, it never works.  Is it cause AIM can't connect with GAIM, or is it a windows and linux issue?03:55
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mlalkakaj2daosh, i was looking at your paste, and it seems like you simply typed w32codecs package incorrectly.03:56
Sannemlalkaka: yeah, seems so. I would try with the headers. You will see if it doesn't work ;)03:56
juliojeson03:56
chmod775can some tell me how to install libcomposite103:56
juliojason03:56
chmod775it's is not there in the reps03:56
chmod775repos03:56
julioi only want know how can i do the UNRAR function03:56
s10casehey is firefox 1.5 available in breezy?03:57
j2daoshwha?! no...03:57
KeeganXs10case: yes03:57
j2daoshreally?03:57
chmod775!firefox03:57
_jasonjulio 'unrar x <file>' I believe.  But if you have that installed. you can just double click on the rar file and it will open03:57
s10casechmod are you making fun of me?03:57
CodenameKT anyone know a good pcmcia nic card that will run under ubuntu nicely03:57
HomeDawganyone have an idea on this 'no directory, logging in with HOME=/'03:57
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j2daoshmlalkaka, where did i go wrong?03:58
_jasonHomeDawg, guessing-- maybe you home directory does not exist?03:58
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julioyes03:58
HomeDawgit does03:58
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juliobut when i do it03:58
bustacapCodenameKT, wireless or wired?03:58
s10caseexcuse me for not spending all of my waking hours tracking what is going on  on ubuntu03:58
julioit doesnt does anything!03:58
CodenameKTI would like to do wired before wireless03:58
j2daoshand it was wrong why is my update manager beeping at me about updating the dang libfame-0.903:58
j2daosh?03:58
CodenameKTbustacap: u know a wireless one that works good?03:59
SanneHomeDawg: I don't know, but sometimes you could have success by searching for the error message in google.03:59
HomeDawgi wouldnt be here if google had solved my problem03:59
mlalkakaj2daosh, on your first command (line 001) the error says that it no file "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" exists in the current working directory. have you downloaded the w32codecs package?03:59
bustacapCodenameKT, I am not sure off the top of my head, the first place to look would be tuxmobile.net03:59
HomeDawgso your smartass comments arent helping03:59
_jasonHomeDawg, try to find out where the home directory is set and make sure it's pointing to the right place03:59
xptestjulio have you looked in synaptic for rar, it is in mine and should do all you need03:59
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j2daoshoh... no ignore that part... i didn't have it when i did that command04:00
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HomeDawg_jason: its set and pointing to the right place, infact i've removed the account and tried to readd it04:00
chmod775bye!04:00
bustacapCodenameKT, sure do, I use the SMC2835W PCMCIA card04:00
bustacapworks great..04:00
HomeDawgand im getting the exact same errors04:00
CodenameKTbustacap:thnx04:00
bustacapCodenameKT, but!04:00
_jasonjulio, you need to install 'unrar-nonfree'.  It is in multiverse.04:00
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bustacapCodenameKT, the reason why I am on here at the moment is because I am trying to get WPA to be installed04:00
j2daoshok gimme one second... i have to rerun something on a comp at work04:00
SanneHomeDawg: if this is directed at me, I didn't mean to be a smartass. I really wanted to help. Did you try to surround the error message with double quotes in google? That might give more results.04:00
CodenameKTbustacap: Oh i see04:00
bustacapCodenameKT, WEP (encryption) works fine, but it is insecure :)04:01
_jasonHomeDawg, where is that information actually set?  (I don't know)04:01
HomeDawgSanne: Yes, I've tried that. Sorry about that.04:01
HomeDawg_jason: The home dir is set in /etc/passwd04:01
MalachiI'm having trouble installing mplayer. Does anyone know of a good deb?04:01
juliohm..04:01
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bustacapCodenameKT, however, most PCMCIA wireless cards use the same chipset, so I will see how I go..04:01
juliook jason04:01
j2daoshok back... where do i get the w32codecs?04:01
SanneHomeDawg: ok :)04:01
mlalkakaMalachi, mplayer is already in one of the ubuntu repositories04:01
CodenameKTbustacap: I share wireless as it is04:02
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Malachimlalkaka: I've already looked, couldn't find it.04:02
HomeDawgthis is pretty wierd04:02
bustacapCodenameKT, by share, do you mean unencrypted?04:02
HomeDawgi've even removed the account and that should work fine if i readd it04:02
mlalkakaMalachi, have you included the universe and multiverse repositories?04:02
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slewis there a program for linux thats like quicken?04:02
mlalkakaubotu, tell Malachi about mplayer04:02
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jjcastenum does anyone know if i can run my ipod on ubuntu04:03
Malachimlalkaka: Yes, I have.04:03
CodenameKTbustacap: yes04:03
jjcastenyes04:03
jjcastenhow04:03
jjcasten?04:03
j2daoshnevermind... got them04:03
juliojason04:03
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mlalkakaMalachi, hmm. that's weird. so there is not package with the word mplayer in it?04:03
julioi do what you say04:03
Madpilot!ipod04:03
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto04:03
juliobut everything say how before04:03
jjcastenthank you04:04
Malachimlalkaka: Nope.04:04
jjcasten!!!!!!!04:04
ubotujjcasten: No idea04:04
HomeDawghrm, so anyone else have any ideas? :x04:04
_jasonjulio, what about when you do04:04
_jasonjulio, 'unrar x /path/to/file'04:04
Malachimakario@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-38604:04
MalachiReading package lists... Done04:04
MalachiBuilding dependency tree... Done04:04
MalachiPackage mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:04
MalachiThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:04
Malachiis only available from another source04:05
MalachiE: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate04:05
Malachimlalkaka: Don't know why....04:05
tafsenHow can I make my NTFS disc automount everytime I start Ubunut? And how Can I make it readable for the regular user?04:05
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bustacapyou haven't enabled Universe or Multiverse repositories04:05
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Zenyo04:05
mlalkakaMalachi, can you send me your /etc/apt/sources.list?04:05
MalachiYeah...04:05
ZenI'm having a problem installing to my mirror--it shows up as two drives instead of one04:06
stombiMalachi: use http://pastebin.com/04:06
mlalkakaMalachi, yeah or just paste it somewhere. that's simpler04:06
cafuegoZen: highpoint or promise on-mobo "raid" ?04:07
Malachimlalkaka, stombi, Mhmm, I know....04:07
mase_!webcam04:07
ubotuwebcam is probably now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.04:07
Zencafuego, same class of hardware--it's a silicon image 2-port card04:07
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IdleOne!amsn04:07
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net04:07
cafuegoZen: Yeah, you ned to set up in-kernel software raid via the 'md' driver.04:07
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alekandrEvening all :] 04:07
tafsenmase_: webcam is included in the newest aMsn04:07
freelove!sources04:08
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:08
Zencafuego, how might I do this?  I'm intending to install linux to this mirror04:08
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mase_tafsen: yeah i know... but installing YOURS is fucked up04:08
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cafuegoZen: Ah ok, easy then. In the installer, when you are asked to partition, choose 'Manual' and then "Raid'04:08
tafsenmase_: YOURS?04:09
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Malachimlalkaka: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/672204:09
cafuegoZen: ... create a raid1 set, add partitions on both drives to it. (You'll need to create 'RAID" type partitions on both disks first.04:09
alekandrI was wondering if someone could help me momentarly, I cant see to get gedit to open via term, thus cannot modify my sources.list as root, and Login Screen Setup wont load, so I cant allow root login access :(04:09
TheAspI'm trying to install breezy and when i reboot grub never comes up.04:09
TheAspwhich is a problem :P04:09
mase_tafsen: yeah04:09
mase_tafsen:  my webcam so i can use it on linux04:09
Zenwill they maintain in-tact when I'm in windows and it decides to do a "rebuild"?04:09
cafuegoalekandr: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'04:10
cafuegoZen: Most likely not.04:10
mlalkakaMalachi, are you using Synaptic or apt-get to install packages?04:10
Malachimlalkaka: I've tried both.04:10
alekandrcafuego: i did exactly that, entered password, nothing loaded or happened04:11
cafuegoalekandr: Then you have brokenness.04:11
stombiMalachi: add multiverse to this line -> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted04:11
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alekandrcafuego: :] 04:11
mase_grrrrrrrr can someone help me out here04:11
mlalkakaMalachi, did you do `apt-get update` before trying to install with apt-get?04:11
MalachiYes.04:11
Paradossohas anybody got a banshee 0.9.8 .deb package please?04:12
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mase_The following packages have unmet dependencies:04:12
mase_  gcc-4.0: Depends: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) but 4.0.2-6 is to be installed04:12
mase_the thing keeps telling me THIS04:12
Zencafuego, this presents a problem then--windows is installed to this mirror as well04:12
mase_but its already on newest version04:12
mase_so WTF?04:12
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SanneMalachi: maybe I'm just blind, but I can't see multiverse in your sources.list04:12
mlalkakaMalachi, i found the problem. you've added the universe repository. but not he multiverse repository04:12
naliothmase_: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin04:12
MalachiSanne: What?04:13
mase_nalioth: it was small, so :/04:13
MalachiSanne: You're right again!!!04:13
SanneMalachi: only for backports04:13
SanneMalachi: hehe04:13
MalachiI've overlooked that about seven times now....04:13
HomeDawghrm, so is there any way without formatting my computer to solve the problem?04:13
naliothmase_: there are approximately 600 people in here. do you want a "it was small" from all of them? the /topic states "please use a pastebin"04:13
mase_so can anyone help..04:13
HomeDawgbecause this is rediculous, i've used many other distros for the past few years and never had a stupid problem like this04:13
mase_nalioth: not all 600 people are needing help at the same time.04:13
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naliothmase_: other ops will ban you for pasting, they will not speak. it IS in the /topic04:14
HomeDawg"No directory, logging in with HOME=/"04:14
mase_nor are all 600 looking at the chan04:14
mase_i just want some help......04:14
naliothmase_: ask your question04:15
purplefeltangeli am getting a weird noise when i use mplayer in firefox. it's like this constant low blipping or thudding . . . i can't even describe it. but it's really annoying. anyone know what's going on?04:15
mase_i already did..04:15
HomeDawgmaybe i'll just install gentoo again04:15
HomeDawgits community is far better and actually supports its users.04:15
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naliothmase_: i've not seen it, ask again please04:15
kremonteHomeDawg:  what?04:15
_jasonpurplefeltangel, does it happen with regular mplayer?04:15
purplefeltangel_jason: hold on, i'll check04:15
cafuegoHomeDawg: Bye then.04:16
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slewis there a program for linux thats like quicken?04:17
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MalachiSorry for all the trouble guys....my stupidity/sleepiness/sickness/stupidity04:17
naliothslew: kmymoney or gnucash04:17
SapentisI'm not sure I know qicken.04:17
SapentisQuicken*04:17
Sanneslew: better describe what your program *does*, not all people know what quicken is04:17
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mase_nalioth: apt-get keeps asking for something already installed..04:18
mase_saying it needs gcc4.0, but its already on the newest version..04:18
purplefeltangel_jason: no, it doesn't happen in regular mplayer04:18
slewk thanks04:18
naliothmase_: what are you trying to install, and from where?04:18
mase_trying to install easycam from apt-get04:18
SanneMalachi: no problem :)04:18
_jasonpurplefeltangel, if you run firefox from a terminal, do you get any error output to the terminal when you view the video?04:19
naliothmase_: you are using non ubuntu repos04:19
mase_it says i dont have build-essentia, and when i do apt-get install build-essential it syas i dont have gcc or g++04:19
naliothmase_: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin please04:19
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naliothmase_: paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:19
alekandrcafuego: hmm, i rebooted and still nothing loads as root, but, if i open term and su and then apply password and open stuff, it works :(04:20
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mase_k one sec..04:20
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MattwestMhas anyone gotten a Linksys USB wireless card to work?04:20
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mase_nalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/672304:21
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ice_1963my first time using ubuntu04:23
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naliothmase_: you cannot run a sources.list like that and NOT have diffeculties04:24
purplefeltangel_jason: uh, hold on will try that04:24
Magraojoin /#ubuntu-br04:24
mase_well what am i suppose to do then04:24
Sanneice_1963: nice, isn't it? Welcome :)04:24
naliothmase_: i hope you are not in for a total reinstall04:24
mase_heh04:24
cafuegomase_: Put a # in front of *everything* without us.archive.ubuntu.com in it.04:24
mase_k04:24
naliothmase_: using non official repos WILL cause problems04:24
naliothmase_: as you are seeing now04:25
ice_1963t/u sanne04:25
ice_1963yes it is04:25
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alekandrMan, nothing loads :|04:25
alekandrA fresh breezy install borked04:26
mase_k04:26
mase_done04:26
mase_what now04:26
naliothmase_: what have you done?04:26
mase_only left kubuntu.org04:26
mase_things04:26
stombimase_: sudo apt-get update04:27
cafuegomase_: 'sudo apt-get update'04:27
naliothmase_: hopefully you can sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install    (but i suspect you may be in for a reinstall)04:27
bur[n] er_alias up='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade $1'04:27
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purplefeltangel_jason: i did it and it gave me something about href=null or something but i don't think it's an error message04:28
ice_1963does 3ddesktop work on ubuntu?04:28
cafuegoice_1963: yes04:28
ice_1963ok04:28
_jasonpurplefeltangel, not sure then... make sure the options in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf are the same as in /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf04:29
mase_nalioth: that apt-get -f install didnt do anything04:29
ice_1963so jest apt-get install 3ddesktop04:29
stombimase_: what's the dpkg error ?04:29
Madpilotice_1963: have you enabled the Universe repos?04:29
mase_there is no error04:29
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mase_just 0 things to install04:29
ice_1963nop04:30
naliothstombi: mase had many non official repos and was having problems with depends04:30
Madpilot!tell ice_1963 about repos04:30
Sannenight all04:30
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naliothmase_: the best way to install things is to enable "Source" repos and have apt-get build the package for you04:30
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dnbanyone know how to upgrade to newer version of firefox?04:30
mase_nalioth: take a look04:30
mase_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/672404:31
naliothmase_: you still have foreign packages installed that has corrupted your box04:31
ice_1963can i jest use vi for sources ?04:32
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mase_i tried to install gcc-4.0 directly from debian's ftp but still that didnt work04:32
mase_keeps saying i need gcc 4.0 ...04:32
naliothmase_: this is Ubuntu, debian packages WILL break it04:32
mase_well wtf04:32
mase_how do i unbreak them than04:32
Madpilotice_1963: sure, if you don't want to use gedit04:32
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naliothmase_: i suspect you'll need to back up your homedir and reinstall. you've successfully locked yourself up04:33
mase_cant i just remove them04:33
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mase_and apt-get it back04:33
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naliothmase_: if you wish, and can remember everything that has been added during every 'apt-get upgrade', sure04:33
mase_ill just remove everything thats  broken04:33
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tafsenhow do I change icon, not for only one file, but f.ex for all files with the ending .avi ?04:35
_ldy_Hi, all a question about ubuntu security. If I include breezy-security in my source.list. Then Can I patch all the holes by apt-get upgrade?04:35
Toma-_ldy_: yes04:35
_ldy_tafsen: I think theme will help you.04:35
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tafsen_ldy_,  how?04:36
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_ldy_Toma-: got it :)04:36
mase_holy shit04:36
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naliothmase_: please respect us with your language04:36
_ldy_tafsen: which desktop env are you useing? gnome or kde?04:36
djlilyazi /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <your-password>04:36
tafsen_ldy_, gnome04:36
techhello i need some help here! how can i get in my desktop using the run command line, i cant get in.04:36
djlilyazihi04:37
Hobbseetech: startx?04:37
beginerI have a broadband connection... I start the server, I check bandwidth and I have cca. 1600kbps. In time, the connection is going down and after few hor i have 200...300kbps... i restart debian and when i check, all become to normal at 1600kbps... what is that?04:37
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techstartx?04:37
Knelixstarx04:37
_ldy_tafsen: give a mins.04:37
Knelixstartx04:37
Knelixthat is.04:38
Hobbseetech: as in, type that in, hit enter, and your desktop should come up04:38
techHobbsee: ok04:38
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techim not authorized? how can i get authorized?04:39
_ldy_tafsen: click system menus.04:39
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tech_ldy_: ok then?04:39
_ldy_tafsen: easy way: open gnome-terminal, input gnome-theme-manger04:39
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egkamptech: are you not authorized to run startx?04:40
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JairunCalothI can't get my current linux-headers from apt-get04:40
_ldy_tafsen: I am useing chinese version ubuntu and I am useing kde. I can not remeber the menu name.04:41
JairunCalothIt keeps telling me the package dosn't exist04:41
Madpilot_ldy_ & tafsen: System menu --> Prefs --> Themes04:41
techegkamp: thats my computer say, but i install this myself04:41
egkampsudo startx04:41
_ldy_Madpilot: bingle :-) and I think gnome-theme-manger is the same04:41
JairunCalotherrr, that's not kernel-headers, but kernel-source04:41
egkampi think you have to run startx w/privilidges04:42
Hobbsee_egkamp, you shouldnt have to04:42
techegkamp: it ask password04:42
JairunCalothdoh, nevermind. I was looking for the wrong package04:42
egkampyes, use your password04:42
egkampwhat you used to log in04:42
Madpilot_ldy_: it is, I just checked04:43
Madpilottech: when you use sudo, use your own user password04:43
techegkamp: ok then whats next?04:43
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tafsenMadpilot: thx04:44
egkampdid startx run? you should be in xwindows, if it did04:44
techyes, thanks04:44
tafsenhow do I add icons on the desktop using rox?04:44
egkamp:-) it is good to be useful04:44
_ldy_Madpilot: Yes, It's useful, I can let gtk based application use theme even when I use fvwm.04:44
tafsenMadpilot: could you give an exampel? How do i change the icons for *.avi files?04:46
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alekandr!sources04:48
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:48
Madpilottafsen: to be honest, I'm not sure about tweaking individual icons, changing whole themes is all I've done04:49
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Madpilot!themes04:49
linlinanyone know of a guide available for dusl monitors on an nvidia video card in ubuntu?04:49
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linlin*dual monitors04:49
Madpilotfrom the bot: themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from http://art.gnome.org/ Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com See also !KDEThemes04:49
naliothMadpilot: fer pets's sake. . .. .04:50
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MorgIf it says permissions are lrwxrwxrwx, what does the l mean?04:50
dabaRMadpilot: change a picture for one icon?04:50
dabaR*change the picture...04:51
dabaRMorg: link?04:51
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MorgdabaR: Are you sure?04:52
Setoutlife in sweden is wild04:52
MorgBecause if I create my own link, it doesn't show such an l.04:52
SetI got kicked to the head. went right down04:52
ptoloMorg: 'l' is symbolic link (ln -s <original> <newlink>)04:53
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ptoloMorg: if you didn't use '-s', you created a hardlink04:53
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Sexythinghello04:53
ptoloMorg: which is actually one file showing up at two different places (this trick works only across one filesystem)04:54
hikenbootit appears that ubuntu does not recognize modules lines in the menu.lst...is there a place to read up on its method of implementing modules?04:54
ptoloMorg: hardlinks are rarely  used (if you don't know what kind of link you want, use soft links)04:54
Sexythingim having problem with setting up SSH, help me please04:54
dabaRMorg: No, not sure at all.04:54
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Sexythingim having problem setting up SSH, help me please04:55
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dabaRptolo: wtheck does your nick mean, and how come you chose to change it?04:55
Kr0ntabsup people....04:55
tafsenMadpilot: I don't want to change all the icons... Don't want icon theme.  I wan't to change the icons for one type of files04:55
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Morgptolo: OK, thanks.04:56
dabaRSexything: how are you trying to set up ssh?04:56
Sexythingthanks04:56
Sexythingi have already installed SSH and openssh04:56
ptolodabaR: oh, my connection broke so this was a fallback nick and i forgot to change it back04:56
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Sexythingits working within my lan04:56
Madpilottafsen: I know, but I'm not sure how to do that - someone else might, though04:56
dabaRand what is ptlo?04:56
jherkecan some point me to documentaion for 1600X1200 screen res for nvidia04:56
hikenbootanyone?04:56
Sexythingi can accss it04:56
tafsenMadpilot, k, thx anyway04:56
tafsenhow do I change icon, not for only one file, but f.ex for all files with the ending .avi ?04:57
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tafsenand I don't want icon themes :P04:57
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ptlodabaR: nothing, just me04:57
Sexythingwhen trying it on other places i cant access my SSh server04:57
nanangwhere ican set my environment variable?04:57
dabaRptlo: but what is it, it is not a name, or a word, that I know...04:57
dabaRSexything: do you use a router? what is your IP adress of the computer?04:58
Sexythingyap04:58
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McJerrywho here uses a linksys wireless router on their setup? And what if any third party firmware do you use on it? I know this is unrelated to topic, but i just want to know?04:58
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Sexythinggeone@192.168.0.14204:58
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dabaRthen you need to set up the router to forward port 22 requests to this computer.04:58
Sexythingport 2204:58
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dabaRSexything: and then access from the Internet using the external router IP address.04:58
ptlodabaR: its incorrectly spelled abbreviation of my former nick, which i happened to like04:58
Koruptwhat's the hold up with firefox 1.5..... its driving me nuts?04:59
indoi use linysys wireless 3rd pt firmware though04:59
dabaRpetlo?04:59
Sexythingok thanks04:59
indo*no 3rd party firmware04:59
dabaRtolp?04:59
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dabaRptlo: you do python, eh? you helped me on #python today, I think..04:59
ptlodabaR: 'ptolo' <- 'ptolomei'04:59
ptlodabaR: yup04:59
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jherkeanyone know where to find documentation on nvidia for ubuntu 1600X1200 res problem05:00
Sexythingthanks dabar05:00
Sexythingthanks05:00
dabaRptlo: did you tell me about pygtk.org, or something else?05:00
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Madpilot!tell jherke about nvidia05:00
jherkethanks05:00
ptlodabaR: about tutorial on pygtk, yeah05:01
hikenbootit appears that ubuntu does not recognize modules lines in the menu.lst...is there a place to read up on its method of implementing modules?05:01
ptlodid it help? :)05:01
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nanangany one can help where ican set my environment variable?05:04
naliothnanang: put any environment things in your ~/.bashrc05:04
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Guest666whats a variable05:05
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dabaRptlo: ya, that is a great reference. I am learning python now, just starting, so I will read that tutorial there. But I am at work now, so I will start going through the examples when I get home, and when I get time. How come you are up so late lately? Are you in HR still?05:07
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LoneWolf071is there any way to limit the amount of processor a user can use?05:07
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crimsunLoneWolf071: yes, see the manpage for pam's limits05:09
beginerecho "1" > /var/log/test  return ./test: line 2: /var/log/test No such file or directory05:09
beginerhow must i use echo to create that file?05:09
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dabaRcrimsun: is ":syntax on" in vim supposed to work over ssh with screen?05:09
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LoneWolf071is there any way to limit the amount of processor a user can use? ulimit isn't implemented in 2.4 kernels or above...05:10
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ptlodabaR: yup, i'm in .hr; i've screwed up my biorhythm :-) and i'm working on my diploma project05:11
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dabaRdiploma? how old are you?05:12
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LoneWolf071anyone?05:13
Eleaflol05:13
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alekandrLoneWolf071: google it :] 05:13
Silver_AdeptIs this the right channel to ask a troubleshooting question in?05:13
phreak97my systemtray icons appear in a window in the top left of my desktop, not in the systemtray05:13
EleafLoneWolf071, I would like to know how to do this too, it seems interesting.05:13
phreak97the only thing in the tray is the sound icon05:13
phreak97how do i fix it?05:13
LoneWolf071lol, well google come up with everything old...05:13
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LoneWolf071there were programs, but they are all implemented before the 2.4 kernel05:14
brennerSilver_Adept: yep..it's also nice if it's ubuntu related somehow. :)05:14
alekandrLoneWolf071: http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/ArticleID/7602/7602.html05:14
dabaRSilver_Adept: any channel on freenode is the right channel to ask a question in. ot all are great to get an answer to the question in. Try.05:14
naliothbrenner: howdy05:14
Silver_AdeptThank you. Does it matter if I'm runnking Kubuntu, or should I find the appropriately-named channel for that?05:15
morphixi have a few problems with getting pypanel to load at startup with openbox.. can someone help me plz??05:15
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brennerphreak97: system tray?  anyway, you can move icons by right-clicking and selecting move, or add applets by selecting 'add to panel'05:15
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dabaRSilver_Adept: ask away05:15
dabaRSilver_Adept: there is #kubuntu05:15
phreak97brenner, i added a notification area, but they dont use it05:16
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phreak97they spawn their own05:16
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Silver_AdeptWell, it's probably one that's been heard before - I'm running an nVidia geForce4 card, and I want my monitor to run my display with a refresh rate higher than 60Hz. But the config options are locked at 60Hz.05:17
ptlodabaR: i'm 26 ;-)05:17
phreak97you know, when you run gaim an icon appears on the top right next to the time05:17
phreak97mine doesnt, it appears in a window in the top left of the desktop05:17
phreak97and its annoying as hell05:17
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Silver_AdeptI've tried a couple of the manual modeline hacks, and they worked for a while, but today instead X crashed to console login rather than loading up K.05:18
dfgasanyone have problems with php not working with php on a fresh install?05:19
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enginuitorbleh05:21
morphixhow would i take a screenshot??05:22
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phreak97brenner, help?05:22
Guest666print screen05:22
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Madpilotmorphix: press the Print Screen key05:22
brennerphreak97: screenshot?  i'm not sure exactly what's going on05:22
enginuitorI've got a Ubuntu Hoary live CD, and have installed an sshd through apt using the default repos provided. However, I can't seem to get scp to work.05:22
enginuitorssh from the console works fine...05:23
phreak97ok05:24
phreak97holdon05:24
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morphixbut what image editin program do i need to save it??05:24
Silver_AdeptGIMP should work.05:24
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poningru_gamesmorphix: it should be there already05:25
Chris_Tuckerhow does one force the cdrom to open? nomatter what?05:25
morphixyeh it is lol05:25
xenocan someone help me apply the dsdt initd patch for the kernel?05:25
Madpilotmorphix: gnome should pop up a screenshot app automatically05:25
Guest666Chris_Tucker, pin in the whole05:25
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Chris_Tuckeri have a screwed up cd in my burner that didnt burn right, and wont eject. how do i override the lock?05:25
enginuitorHmm, scp ~is~ working...05:25
EleafGuest666, lol, whenever I need to do that, the cd drive always squeels and then like clunks, and it wont come out stilll lolol05:26
linlinpaperclip05:26
brennerChris_Tucker: have you tried 'sudo eject'?05:26
Chris_TuckerGuest666, no can do. system is powered on. and cant reboot right now.05:26
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enginuitorI guess I have to go bug #kde about konqueror, then, if scp itself isn't the problem05:26
EleafChris_Tucker, you can do it with the computer on, I do05:26
Chris_Tuckerbrenner, >.< that worked05:26
Eleaflolol05:26
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enginuitorThe "fish:/" kioslave uses scp, right?05:26
enginuitor...or is it sftp?05:26
brennerChris_Tucker: cool...i wasn't betting on it. :)05:27
Chris_Tuckeri didnt think sudo eject would work cause k3b complained about not being able to unlock the drive.05:27
enginuitorI guess this is the wrong place to be asking05:27
xenocan someone help me apply the dsdt initd patch for the kernel?05:27
enginuitorChris_Tucker: By the way, hdparm can set the  "door lock" state for IDE drives, though I'm not entirely sure if it would apply for a CD-ROM drive...05:28
Chris_Tuckerenginuitor, i'll keep that in mind should sudo eject ever disobey...05:29
brennerenginuitor: #kubuntu might be useful also05:29
Chris_TuckerAAAAAAHHHHHHHH i didnt realize k3b had sounds! i think i just woke up my entire house05:29
drcodeany one know if I can convert firefox bookmark into mozilla browser?05:29
DShepherddrcode: ??? go again?05:30
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enginuitorChris_Tucker: Never mind -- doesn't look like CD-ROM drives like that command :) However, there is a program called 'eject' (clever name), which will eject CD-ROM drives and all manner of other ejectable media05:31
drcodeI want to convert bookmarks.html of firefox into mozilla05:31
Chris_Tuckerdrcode, if all else fails.. go to ~/.mozilla/ navigate your way to your bookmarks.html and just open the link in your browser of choice05:31
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DShepherddrcode: why?05:31
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DShepherddrcode: do what Chris_Tucker said05:31
enginuitorEven put up a webcam so they could watch it happen05:32
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enginuitorThat got old *real* fast05:32
drcodek05:32
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drcodeI will expline05:32
phnxgkHowdy ho everyone05:32
drcodeI want to use my bookmark as remote bookmark05:32
brennerenginuitor: and you implemented that, why? :)05:32
drcodeI found squrilmail , that it as bookmark and option to import05:33
drcodebut it need netscape or IE6 bookmark05:33
enginuitorbrenner: Spoon slipped when measuring caffeine powder into my morning tea that day :-D05:33
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phnxgkOk i have an instalation problem.05:33
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im-a-newbiehi05:33
im-a-newbiei would like to ask05:34
brennerlol05:34
im-a-newbiehow can i connect to the internet using ubuntu?05:34
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djlilyazihow can i access my files on my windows xp ?05:34
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brennerubotu: tell djlilyazi about ntfs05:35
im-a-newbiedjlilyazi: how can i access my files on my windows xp ? --- it depends..if ur windows xp drive is in fat32 u can still see it05:35
DShepherddrcode: have you tried exporting the firefox bookmark and se if that  works with squirlmail?05:35
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im-a-newbiebut if it's on ntfs..sorry man..05:35
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DShepherddrcode: se=see05:35
djlilyaziyes NTFS05:35
im-a-newbieDShepherd : how can i connect to internet using ubuntu?05:35
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timin ubuntu, is the root account not supposed to be used interactively?05:36
brennerdjlilyazi: check your pms.  ubotu's sent you a link05:36
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phnxgkok as well as having instalation problems, im also having problems with apps closing on me randomly.05:36
drcodeyes05:36
im-a-newbieDShepherd : i have installed ubuntu 5.1 and there seems no program like KPPP to connect...05:36
purpleheart_USMCI can't get my network card to work in ubuntu05:37
drcodeit give me some error05:37
drcodeof time out05:37
drcodeI will try again05:37
drcodethe firefox bookmarks and netscape are same?05:37
im-a-newbietim: in ubuntu, is the root account not supposed to be used interactively? --- eh? what do you mean?05:38
brennertim: root account is disabled by default05:38
DShepherddrcode: I think so05:38
brennerubotu: tell tim about root05:38
DShepherdim-a-newbie: you on dial up?05:38
purpleheart_USMCits a 3com that i know works with linux, and a built in one as well.  both show the green led for a connection, and show the yellow for activity, but neither seem to work...05:38
im-a-newbieDShepherd : yes05:38
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DShepherdim-a-newbie: I feel your pain05:38
Christophe971hello minna05:38
im-a-newbieDShepherd : does ubuntu work with DUP?05:38
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DShepherdim-a-newbie: sure05:39
timbrenner: thanks05:39
Christophe971is it normal that i've network access from i gentoo (chrooted from ubuntu breezy)05:39
phnxgkWell with my instalation problems.  i try to install a package useing Synaptic Package Manager,  it downloads the package, then it trys to install it, but it gives me an error.......05:39
Christophe971?05:39
brennerim-a-newbie: depends on your modem05:39
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im-a-newbieDShepherd : it detects my modem05:39
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im-a-newbieDShepherdbut what program should i use to connect05:39
DShepherdim-a-newbie: sudo aptitude install gnome-ppp. I havent personally used it.... but it should work05:39
im-a-newbieahh okei05:40
im-a-newbieso any release or any distribution programs would work with it??05:40
purpleheart_USMCcan someone help me?05:40
brennerphnxgk: what error?  (use pastebin if > $ lines)05:40
phnxgkthe error says.......failed to apply all changes, scroll in the terminal buffer to see whats wrong.05:40
phnxgki look at the terminal buffer and all it says is "preconfigering packages...."05:41
DShepherdim-a-newbie: ubuntu should05:41
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brennerphnxgk: paste the command you used and the error output to a pastebin05:41
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korkowhello?05:41
DShepherdhi05:42
phnxgkbrenner i didnt use a comand, i am using the Synaptic GUI thingy.05:42
korkowim having ssh trouble05:42
brennerphnxgk: ah, my mistake.  what package are you trying to install?05:42
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korkowi have openssh installed properly, and it starts up fine05:42
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phnxgkbrenner aalib105:43
korkowbut i can't connect to this box from any other compy05:43
hejuxhi05:43
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korkowport 22 is open in my fire and everything05:43
korkow*firewall05:43
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korkowno one want to help, eh?05:43
phnxgkbrenner however all the packages do the same thing when i try to install them.  I cant even do the auto update thing.05:43
brennerphnxgk: sounds like a repo problem05:44
nilsLHey! I run Breezy Ubuntu on a PPC Ibook G3. How do I install Java for Mozilla Firefox?05:44
brennerphnxgk: aalib1 installed fine for me05:44
DShepherdubotu tell nilsL about java05:44
brennerubotu: tell phnxgk about repos05:44
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nilsL!javadebs05:45
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy05:45
phnxgkbrenner when i installed ubuntu, during the second part of the instalation before it boots, at about 84 percent it says that some files wernt installed, and that i should fix it manually.05:45
nanangnalioth : tq05:45
nilsLDShepherd: thx!05:45
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DShepherdnilsL: sure05:45
brennerphnxgk: that doesn't sound too good.  you might have a broken install there05:45
DShepherdkorkow: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto?highlight=%28ssh%2905:46
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phnxgkbrenner it has happend with 3 different downloads and burns, as well as a distro disk i got from Linux Format magazine05:46
DShepherdkorkow: this one is a little bit more advanced05:47
DShepherdkorkow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH?highlight=%28ssh%2905:47
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brennerphnxgk: gee, that's no good05:47
purpleheart_USMCcan someone help me?05:47
keyhackHow can I find out what package "ffmpeg" is in?05:47
brennerkeyhack: packages.ubuntu.com has a file search feature...but that package should be easy enough to find with a title search05:48
phnxgkbrenner  ya, I ordered a disk from the web site, but im begging to think its something on my end, but i dont know what.  Ubuntu is the only one that does it.05:48
brennerusing synatpic/other apt tool05:48
Chris_Tuckerkeyhack, sudo apt-cache search ffmpeg05:48
DShepherdkeyhack: sudo aptitude searc ffmped works05:48
Chris_Tuckerkeyhack, or search in synaptic05:48
DShepherdkeyhack: sudo aptitude search ffmped works05:48
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DShepherdffmpeg* ahh typos!05:49
keyhackThe only thing that showed up was "gstreamer0.8-misc - Collection of various GStreamer plugins"05:49
SweetestSavageWhat's the command to show your LAN IP and Subnet Mask etc? (Like ipconfig in windows)05:49
Eleafifconfig05:49
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EleafSweetestSavage, ^^05:50
xenocan someone help me with dsdt table install05:50
phnxgkbrenner any ideas about whats wrong?05:50
keyhackTo me that didn't seem like the right package05:50
DShepherdkeyhack: do you have universe installed?05:50
SweetestSavageEleaf, oh, heh. Thanks =P05:50
Eleaf= )05:50
keyhackDShepherd: No idea05:50
DShepherdtell keyhack about repos05:50
DShepherdItell keyhack about repos05:51
DShepherdubotu keyhack about repos05:51
ubotuDShepherd: Bugger all, i dunno05:51
brennerphnxgk: my 1st thought was a repo problem, but aalib1 is in main, so you should be able to install it straight...05:51
DShepherdubotu tell keyhack about repos05:51
brennerphnxgk: so *all* your installs failed?05:51
DShepherdubotu: thanks for keeping up with my typos05:51
ubotuDShepherd: pas de quoi05:51
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phnxgkbrenner all of the ones i tried.  But i havnt gone through every single package yet.05:52
brennerphnxgk: i meant the actual distro installs actually05:52
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brennerphnxgk: try installing using 'sudo apt-get install <package>'.  you might get some more useful info in the terminal05:53
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phnxgkbrenner yes all of them did the same thing.05:53
phnxgkok one sec ill try that05:53
hejuxhi05:53
DShepherdhey05:53
keyhackI have multiverse, and I still don't see a simple package for "ffmpeg"05:54
mlalkakaa certain kernel module (spca5xx) is loaded when my computer starts up. i want to send an option to the driver when it is loaded. how do i do that?05:54
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DShepherdkeyhack: do you have universe enabled05:54
hejuxDShepherd, i am using x-chat ,how to set my own color to blue ? it is gray default05:54
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DShepherdhejux: I dont know...05:54
StarKruzrdoes anyone know what to do to get movie files such as mpgs to play inside a webpage on Firefox?  or to get Flash working on Firefox?  the script which installs it from Macromedia appears to be broken.05:54
brennerkeyhack: ffmpeg is in universe05:54
scanwinderive got a soundblaster live 5.1 soundcard and 5.1 speakers and, i cant get any sound out of the back 2 speakers in ubuntu, how do i fix this?05:55
DShepherdhejux: try preferences05:55
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phnxgkbrenner E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:55
phnxgkE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:55
hejuxDShepherd, okay ,thanks05:55
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brennerphnxgk: close synaptic05:55
DShepherdhejux: sure05:55
brennerphnxgk: you can only use one apt tool at a time05:56
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MorgHow do you use apt-get to see if you already have a package installed?05:56
Christophe971apt-cache show05:56
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mlalkakaStarKruzr, for flash, all you have to do is go to a site that has flash on it. it will ask you to install the plugin05:56
bloodis my sound sapposed to work when i first instal?05:56
StarKruzrmlalkaka: that does not work.05:56
TheAspAnyone know of a problem with grub and sata and the a8n sli premium mb?  After debconf puts grub on and reboots, grub doesn't load up.  If I try to boot a grub floppy and load the menu, it gets erorrs trying to do savedefault.  When that is removed it boots.05:57
mlalkakaStarKruzr, then i'm not sure. for mpg's, you need to install the package mozilla-mplayer or something like that05:57
StarKruzrmlalkaka: instead after you hit the grey button it does nothing.05:57
TheAspJust hangs where grub would normally start05:57
StarKruzrmlalkaka: will that not expect mozilla rather than firefox?05:57
mlalkakaStarKruzr, that package works for both05:58
StarKruzrokay.05:58
mlalkakaStarKruzr, firefox derived from mozilla.05:58
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mlalkakaStarKruzr, for flash, have you tried the original installer from macromedia's site?05:58
Jaredi got the drivers for my webcam i just can't get my cam to show up as /dev/video0....any ideas         ANYONE05:58
JaredMy webcam is a must have05:59
scanwinderi cant get my soundblaster live 5.1 to output to the rear speakers, does ubuntu fully support the card without installing drivers?05:59
StarKruzrmlalkaka: it breaks.05:59
mlalkakaStarKruzr, hhmm. weird.05:59
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StarKruzrI'll tell you what it says05:59
morphixomg.05:59
StarKruzroyg?05:59
JaredAnyone in here have any ideas?06:00
phnxgkbrenner i have a sneeky suspicion that a total system lock up is not good.06:00
StarKruzr!pastebin06:00
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:00
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brennerStarKruzr: have you tried the flashplayer-mozilla package?06:00
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phnxgkbrenner what was the sudo command agein?06:01
morphixi'm in openbox.. i change the .xsession file so that pypanel will load up automatically.. but it doesnt...i have to open a terminal and manually open pypanel.. and if i close that terminal.. so does pypanel.06:01
brennerphnxgk: ouch.  ok, something's definitely wrong06:01
StarKruzrhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6730 <-- brenner, mlalkaka06:01
brennerJared: had a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam?06:01
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hejuxduring this half year ,ubuntu or Linux has made greate progress on its desktop perfermence06:02
Jaredokay brenner06:02
mlalkakaStarKruzr, after that it just closes?06:02
StarKruzrno, it sits waiting on readline, and no matter what you type and press enter on, it just sits there.06:02
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Jaredbrenner easy cam don't have the drivers for my webcam......so i got the from somewhere else. so06:03
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FlimFlamManisnt it possible to rename a printer in gnome-cups-manager (or specify a name when creating the printer)?06:03
hejuxthe display of CJK is nearly perfect!06:03
brennerStarKruzr: can't help you there.  i've never used the official installer06:03
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mlalkakaStarKruzr, does /dev/tty exist on your system?06:03
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brennerJared: yeah, not sure really...i just asked ubotu quickly about webcams.  sorry06:04
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StarKruzrthere is flashplayer-mozilla, and flashplugin-nonfree.  the latter says "useful for mozilla variants."06:04
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brennerJared: have you searched the forum?06:04
phnxgkgrr06:04
phnxgkdern thing closed on me.06:04
StarKruzrmlalkaka: it sure does.06:04
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phnxgkbrenner ok this iw what my terminal says....06:04
Jaredno06:04
Jaredi will06:04
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phnxgkbrenner phnxgk@Transformer:~$ sudo apt-get install aalib106:04
phnxgkPassword:06:04
phnxgkReading package lists... Done06:04
phnxgkBuilding dependency tree... Done06:04
phnxgkThe following NEW packages will be installed:06:04
keyhackDoes anyone here know how to use the libdvdread3? I'm trying to copy a VOB off of my DVD decrypted06:04
phnxgk  aalib106:04
phnxgk0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 40 not upgraded.06:04
phnxgk20 not fully installed or removed.06:05
phnxgkNeed to get 0B/1456B of archives.06:05
phnxgkAfter unpacking 28.7kB of additional disk space will be used.06:05
phnxgkPreconfiguring packages ...06:05
phnxgkdpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 19059 package `openssh-client':06:05
phnxgk `Provides' field, invalid package name `06:05
phnxgkE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)06:05
phnxgkphnxgk@Transformer:~$06:05
phnxgksorry for larg post guys. and gals06:05
Madpilot!pastebin06:05
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:05
CaptainMorganto read win flles, I cant mount the win partition... anyone know how I can read linux files in win?06:05
brennersorry guys..i thought i told him about the pastebin06:05
mlalkakaStarKruzr, are you able to check for it at the moment?06:05
phnxgkyou did.  it was my falt i had no idea what you ment.06:06
mlalkakaa certain kernel module (spca5xx) is loaded when my computer starts up. i want to send an option to the driver when it is loaded. how do i do that?06:06
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StarKruzrmlalkaka: check for what?06:07
StarKruzr/dev/tty exists, if that's what you mean.06:07
phnxgkclosed on me agien.06:07
CaptainMorganhow do i read ubuntu's files in win ?06:07
phnxgkok what was the past bin web site agien?  Fire fox crashed also.  *cries* gosh this sucks.06:07
brennerphnxgk: sounds like dpkg is borked06:07
mlalkakaStarKruzr, check for /dev/tty06:07
StarKruzrdude06:08
StarKruzrI did06:08
StarKruzrit's there.06:08
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brennerphnxgk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:08
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phnxgkbrenner  thanks.06:08
phnxgkbrenner ok so how do i fix dpkg?06:08
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mlalkakaStarKruzr, i just realized that i am using the package flashplayer-mozilla, and it seems to be providing firefox with the plugin as well. have you tried that package?06:10
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Guest666is there a shortcut key to a console window in ubuntu?06:10
brennerphnxgk: i'm not certain, but i could suggest somet things to try06:10
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brennerGuest666: alt+f1?06:10
brenneralt+f7 to go back iirc06:10
djlilyaziwhats the diff between KDE,Gnome ?06:11
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phnxgkirc closed on me agien...06:11
Guest666and why didnt this ubuntu install ask me fo ra root password to be set at all?06:11
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brennerphnxgk: i have a feeling your failed install is causing all this06:11
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blood_Can i play wow from windows while using linux?06:11
blood_hello06:12
djlilyaziwhats the diff between KDE and Gnome ?06:12
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phnxgkbrenner is there anyway to fix it?  because as i said, i have tried 3 diff downloads and a distro disk from Linux Format Magazine.06:12
Jaredi just need to know how to make my cam show up as /dev/video006:13
CaptainMorgananyone know anything about EXT2IFS ?06:13
brennerphnxgk: you might have rotten luck. i.e. all cds were bad. do you have a spare computer you can install on?06:13
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CaptainMorgansays if installed to the system root, nt may not boot....06:13
CaptainMorganwtf ?06:13
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Jaredhmph06:14
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phnxgkbrenner not one with any free hard drive space.06:14
phnxgkbrenner is there a way to install it over the internet?06:14
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Guest666the root account is disabled by default. If you want to do something with root permission on the console you have to type sudo before the command.06:15
brennernot afaik06:15
Guest666"sudo" means superuser do. "sudo" will prompt for "Password:". Please specify user password06:15
Guest666Your way of enabling the root account is wrong. The correct way to enable the root account (which is not advised to do) is :06:15
Guest666sudo passwd root06:15
Guest666HOMO06:15
monziehi all06:15
brenneri'm not really sure...try searching the forum with the error output06:15
monzieis there a way to download the source code for GNOME using apt-get06:15
monziei am using Ubuntu breezy06:15
phnxgkhmm06:15
brenneri can't really think of anything except getting a clean install06:15
brennersory06:15
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brenner+r06:16
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morphixCaptainMorgan, i used ext2ifs to look at my linux partitions in windows..06:16
morphixuse*06:16
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phnxgkbrenner could you send me an iso of your distro disk?  ill burn that and see if that would work.06:17
brennerphnxgk: i don't think you'd want that. i'm on dialup :-/06:17
Kindredit'll only take a week06:17
phnxgkbrenner hmm....  ya, that would take a while.06:17
brennerphnxgk: there's a way to check the cd's integrity iirc.  md5sum or something06:18
monziehelp please, i want to get sources for the GNOME desktop using apt-get06:18
monzieis it possible in any way?06:18
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phnxgkbrenner  how would i do that?06:19
brennerphnxgk: maybe try repairing broken packages thru synaptic06:19
brennerit's in the edit menu06:19
toyiti12how to edit grub loader time to choose betn 2 os06:19
phnxgkbrenner ill try that real quick06:19
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brennertoyiti12: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:20
brennerthe timeout field06:20
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hikenbootanyone know the Ubuntu package for Development install of zlib (e.g., zlib-dev)06:20
toyiti12terminal command plz06:20
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crimsun!info zlib1g-dev06:21
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hikenbootAh ok wasnt sure if that was it or not06:21
hikenbootthanks06:21
brennertoyiti12: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:21
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phnxgkbrenner closed on me agien.06:21
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brennerok, could someone confirm that checking the md5sum is a way of checking the install cd's integrity?  and how would phnxgk do that?06:22
phnxgkbrenner it wont even let me reinstall a package06:22
brennerphnxgk: like i said, sounds like dpkg is borked06:23
PuMpErNiCkLebrenner: Yes, that's how you check if it's 'intact'.06:23
phnxgkbrenner what is dpkg?06:23
PuMpErNiCkLebrenner: To do that, you have to compare the md5 hash provided on the website with the one you get for the downloaded .iso file.06:23
daskogI just tryed the Ubuntu Flight 2 live cd! dam* it's fast on my system! it's not like anything i've seen frome a linux distroe before! could it be the 2.6.15 kernel & my Nforce 4+ AMD X2?06:24
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PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: With that hardware, wouldn't anything be fast? :)06:24
daskogyeah, but i mean it was crazy fast06:24
alphyhow do I get GIMP to save as a jpg or bmp?06:24
daskog!!!06:24
ubotu??06:24
PuMpErNiCkLealphy: When you go to save, it'll let you select the file format.06:24
daskogeverything was realy snappy and faaaast!06:24
brennerPuMpErNiCkLe: so that would help?  he seems to be having package problems and apparently all his installs have failed somewhere in the 84% region (phnxgk: at the package config stage right?)06:25
SweetestSavagedaskog, dang, nice o_o06:25
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toyiti12command not found06:25
PuMpErNiCkLebrenner: It wouldn't necessarily help... it would just show if file integrity is the problem.06:25
SweetestSavageAMD X2.. nForce 4+.. nice =)06:25
brennerphnxgk: from the man page: 'dpkg  is  a  tool to install, build, remove and manage Debian packages'06:25
spikesanyone know how to set up weplab?06:25
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, it doesn't.06:25
PuMpErNiCkLebrenner: He'd still have to download/burn a new iso.06:25
phnxgkbrenner the package install part, during the second part of the instalation after it restarted once06:26
toyiti12asked passward first ,then said commnad not found06:26
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DShepherdalphy: try save as-> select file extension06:27
s_spiffhi06:27
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DShepherdey06:27
StarKruzrcan somoene recommend to me a good sftp and ftp client for KDE?06:27
DShepherdhey*06:27
s_spiffcan a newbie raise his doubts here or is there another channel for it?06:27
brennerphnxgk: to be honest, i'm not sure what's going on.  are you ensuring you leave enough space for the install?06:27
StarKruzrspiff: most of the people who talk in here are newbies :)06:28
s_spiffusing both ubuntu and added kde about 2 days back.06:28
s_spiffohh ok06:28
PuMpErNiCkLealphy: I'll post a screenshot of what I mean in the pastebin... gimme a second...06:28
phnxgkbrenner 10 gigs06:28
DShepherdStarKruzr: you may get more help in #kubuntu06:28
brennerphnxgk: yeah, that's fine06:28
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daskog*everybody whants to cha cha cha*06:29
s_spiffare there any scripts for x-chat? like i used !euphoria for mIRC in windows06:29
phnxgkbrenner could it possibly be a hardware issue?06:29
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brennerphnxgk: maybe.  which is why i suggested trying an install on a spare computer06:30
PuMpErNiCkLebah06:30
Kindred:\06:30
spikesi guess no one knows anything about weplab06:30
brennerbut i'm gonna have to defer to the real gurus.  i'm not sure i could help you further. sorry06:30
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PuMpErNiCkLealphy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6731  <--- A screenshot HOWTO06:30
phnxgkbrenner  is there a way to install it with out probing for hard ware?06:30
monziehi all06:30
daskogI whant to know what the dev team did with the Flight 2 realease that made my system act like it had NOS?06:30
monziehas anybody here ever built Ubuntu from source06:31
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, I got it thanks for all the help06:31
s_spiffcan someone help me with a firewall? I want to install one without disrupting my connection.06:31
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: For one thing, the interface is OpenGL accelerated... that might do it.06:31
monziei would like to try doing that, any pointers?06:31
brennerphnxgk: not sure.  i've always used default06:31
monziesudo apt-get install firestarter s_spiff06:31
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s_spiffok06:31
phnxgkbrenner i know fedora core 3 wouldnt install unless i told it not to prob06:31
s_spiffthanks06:31
brenners_spiff: might want to ask in #xchat on the scripts.  the guys in there are pretty cool06:32
notenoughnicksIs there a way to get the exit status of the command before the pipe, like getting the exit status of test in "test -f doesntexist | tee log"?06:32
brennerphnxgk: that's interesting06:32
daskogPuMpErNiCkLe, How long til next official Ubuntu release? tobad it's still under dev06:32
brennerbut like i said, i'm not sure how you'd do that with ub06:32
monzieany channel on which the Ubuntu developers sit pe se?06:32
monzieor is this the one?06:32
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: The next 'stable' release is in April.06:32
phnxgkbrenner susu installs, but it crashes on me.06:32
brennerphnxgk: then it could very well be a hardware issue06:33
phnxgkbrenner the only distro that hasnt given me any probls is knoppix06:33
monzieDapper Drake if i am not wrong06:33
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s_spiffi though ubuntu is always under dev. as in they release a new version every 6 months right?06:34
s_spiffthought*06:34
PuMpErNiCkLes_spiff: yes06:34
daskogApril..ahh06:34
s_spiffthen, are there any more builds to come in case of breeze badger?06:34
PuMpErNiCkLes_spiff: But there's a period of a month or so when all they do is bugfixes.06:34
monzieno PuMpErNiCkLe06:34
PuMpErNiCkLes_spiff: nope06:35
daskogIt's like waitng for sex frome my girl =P06:35
PuMpErNiCkLes_spiff: Breezy badger only gets bugfixes from now on.06:35
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brennerphnxgk: i need to go.  good luck though.  keep coming back in here.  you might get someone else who can actually help you :-/06:35
s_spiffas in ?06:35
PuMpErNiCkLes_spiff: All the new stuff is going to Dapper.06:35
s_spiffohh ok06:35
s_spiff so no more new packages for BB?06:35
hejuxI Love Ubuntu!06:35
hejuxso great!06:36
PuMpErNiCkLes_spiff: Probably not.06:36
s_spiffI already downloaded the iso of Dapper Drake06:36
spikesI <3 Ubuntu06:36
s_spiffbut i think i liked BB better than DD06:36
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PuMpErNiCkLes_spiff: Well, it is only a test build of Dapper...06:36
s_spiffNiCkLE is there a script which i can download for auto nick completion? its gets real tiresome to type all of it out in the righ way.06:36
hejuxDapper : linux kernel  2.6.1506:37
s_spiffok.06:37
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ilba7rs_spiff, use the tab key06:37
Madpilots_spiff: if you're running XChat, just hit TAB06:37
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s_spiffyeah ok.06:37
skon..thanks for the tip06:37
tonyyarussoCan someone tell me how to put spacer lines in a grub menu?  What I tried didn't work.06:37
skondidn't know that heh06:37
s_spiffMadpilot : thanks06:38
daskogIknow to little about Linux.. but Kernels are they to be released all the time or is it hard coded into every new distroes`? (like 2.6.15 for example)06:38
s_spiffhehe.. thanks cool.06:38
skondaskog, you can update the new ones whenever they come out06:38
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PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: They can be replaced - anything can be replaced - but it takes a lot of work to make them completely compatible with each release's way of doing things.06:39
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: so yes and no :)06:39
daskogOk just the answer i needed06:40
daskogHehe just what makes me love Linux06:40
daskogeverything is posible06:40
s_spiffoen noob questuion06:40
s_spiff how to install stuff on the pc?06:40
Madpilotdaskog: Ubuntu will tell you if there are updates ready - look for the red circle thing up next to your clock06:40
skons_spiff, what specifically06:40
tonyyarussoAlso, our other computer, when using the 2.6.12-5 kernel, gives an error: Fatal, no module ext2, which cuts off the splash screen.  2.6.10-9 is fine.06:41
Mr_Milenkored circle with a green icon in it06:41
Mr_Milenko:)06:41
s_spiffas in i download a package , like opera, or firefox 1.506:41
Madpilots_spiff: easiest way is with Synaptic06:41
daskogwell i dont use Ubuntu at the moment (im testing the live cd)06:41
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s_spiffyeah, but synaptic doesn't always have what I want06:41
s_spiff eg : FF1.506:41
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: That's a bad error 0_o06:41
skons_spiff, download it from the FF site then06:41
s_spiffi already installed it06:41
s_spiff by using the commands given in wiki06:42
s_spiff but wiki doesn't have the solution to all the programs..06:42
Madpilots_spiff: there's a wiki page for Opera as well06:42
tonyyarussoPuMpErNiCkLe, It sure sounds that way, doesn't it?  The other kernel doesn't complain though, which seems odd.06:42
s_spiff so wanted a basic idea as to how to do it?06:42
Madpilot!tell s_spiff about opera06:42
skons_spiff, most of the programs you'll want to install will either have documentation or are avaiable through synatpic06:42
daskogiknow this is a loong shot in the dark, but do someone in here(or someone you know) Run/tryed Softimage XSI 5 on Ubuntu?06:42
PuMpErNiCkLetonyyarusso: odd indeed06:42
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sorush20guys any programs out there that has the ability to convert mp3 to wav and write to cdr?06:43
s_spiffskon, ok will check it out.06:43
Madpilotsorush20: lots - k3b seems to be the best06:43
Corrupterhow do i install an rpm?06:43
PuMpErNiCkLesorush20: Serpentine does, and I think it's defaulted in ubuntu.06:43
skonCorrupter, use the alien program06:43
Corrupterskon: ...?06:43
sorush20thanks06:43
PuMpErNiCkLesorush20: Applications -> Sound -> Serpentine06:44
skonCorrupter, type man alien06:44
MadpilotPuMpErNiCkLe: Serpentine burns far too many coasters for me - k3b doesn't, although it isn't as easy to use06:44
Corrupterskon: no manual entry for alien06:44
skonCorrupter, sudo apt-get install alien06:44
tonyyarussoIn a grub menu, I tried just having title and root lines with nothing after them to make blank spacers, but it just didn't show them.  How can I force space into the menu?06:45
PuMpErNiCkLeMadpilot: I only had that problem when I had a busted power supply and the entire computer crashed... since then it works perfectly. o_O06:45
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KindredI have a 100% success rate with Serpentine, only used it once though.06:45
Mr_Milenkowould this be a bad PSU,06:45
Mr_MilenkoMy computer runs, but freezes no matter what HDD is in it or what cdrom its booted from or OS its using06:46
Corrupteri like gnome baker better06:46
PuMpErNiCkLeMr_Milenko: Either teh PSU, the mobo, or the CPU.06:46
PuMpErNiCkLeMr_Milenko: Or the RAM.06:46
CorrupterMr_Milenko: it could be the RAM, the CPU, the mobo or the PSU06:46
PuMpErNiCkLeMr_Milenko: You can check the RAM with memtest.06:46
Corrupterlol06:46
steve_laptopwhere can I find a who to on madwifi?06:46
Corrupteryou beat me to it06:46
Mr_Milenkotoo late this was years ago.. i stripped the pc06:47
PuMpErNiCkLeCorrupter: :D06:47
Mr_Milenkolol06:47
daskogHow many would be intrested in a Adobe like creative suit for Linux?06:47
PuMpErNiCkLeol06:47
skonsteve_laptop, huh?06:47
Mr_Milenkonow im running a peice of shit 399mhz system06:47
Mr_Milenkowith the same HDD that was in that system06:47
Mr_Milenko:-/06:47
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steve_laptopim looking for the madwifi drivers06:47
Corrupterdaskog: keep talking06:47
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Mr_Milenkobah.. guys havin a problem06:47
skon!wifi06:47
ubotufrom memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto06:47
MadpilotMr_Milenko: so it's probably not that HDD, then..06:47
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tonyyarussoHas anyone answered the question yet about whether it's possible to have different desktop backgrounds on different workspaces?06:47
Mr_MilenkoMy cdrom is broken and im trying to boot Ubuntu in a Virtual machine06:48
Mr_Milenkocopied the files over network to my hdd and made an ISO06:48
Mr_Milenkobut its not bootable06:48
Mr_Milenko:(06:48
Mr_Milenkoany thing i can use (on a windows pc) to make a bootable iso?06:48
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daskogFirst of Adobe is not making a port! far as iknow about, but some friends of mine is planning to deal with it anytime soon!06:48
adam_hi there asl06:48
Mr_Milenkoasl? rofl06:48
daskogjust like Oppenoffice is for the world out there now06:48
skonMr_Milenko, look up "DVD Burner"..there's a program06:48
PuMpErNiCkLebahahaha06:48
PuMpErNiCkLeasl :P06:49
s_spiffanyways thanks for the help06:49
s_spiffwill be back later06:49
s_spiff have to study right now06:49
skonMr_Milenko, I can send it you if you want06:49
Mr_Milenkonah im ok06:49
Mr_Milenkodialup :P06:49
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skonok...it's only like 1MB if I remember right06:49
Madpilot!tell Mr_Milenko about iso06:49
Mr_Milenkoi know06:49
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MadpilotMr_Milenko: that wiki page has Win iso burning apps mentioned as well...06:50
Mr_Milenkonot trying to burn06:50
MadpilotMr_Milenko: ah, nvr mind then...06:50
Mr_Milenkotrying to create a bootable ISO from the files on the ubuntu install cd06:50
Mr_Milenkomy cd drive is broken06:50
steve_laptopThanks06:50
Mr_Milenkoso i copied the files via network from my xbox06:50
Mr_Milenkorofl06:50
daskogbut they need more developers on the team! anyway it will soon be all over the web i guess06:50
Mr_Milenkowhy! do you! keep talking like this, man!06:50
Mr_Milenkowe get!! the picture!! you're excited!!!111shift+one06:51
Mr_Milenko:P06:51
daskogare you talkin to me!!06:51
skonStop being childish06:51
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Mr_MilenkoI'm not being childish, I'm mocking him in a mature manor.06:51
skonmanner06:52
Mr_Milenkowhatever06:52
Mr_Milenko:P06:52
Steve|lol06:52
DShepherdlol06:52
Madpilotyou're mocking him in a mature fancy house? what? :P06:52
daskogwtf06:52
skon!offtopic06:52
ubotuwell, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!06:52
skon:-D06:52
PuMpErNiCkLeo_O06:52
Mr_MilenkoI'm in offtopic.. but nobodys active :(06:52
Mr_Milenkowait i was wrong06:52
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daskogOkay..Back to Opensource ADOBE LIKE Creative suit...06:53
PuMpErNiCkLeMr_Milenko: Try telling them that Fedora rules ;)06:53
daskogdont any of you pay intrest to this subject?06:53
Mr_MilenkoFedora Blows!06:53
uoouwhat you mean daskog?06:53
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Madpilotdaskog: given that GIMP already exists, as does Inkscape, what's left to do?06:53
Mr_Milenkoi think hes talking about the photoshop linux rumor06:53
daskogLol06:54
Mr_Milenkoand to be honest.. i prefer gimp over photoshop06:54
daskogpeople just don't get it06:54
Davey`gimp blows06:54
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Kindredgimp is alright.  I hated it at first but..06:54
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KindredI'd still take photoshop though..06:54
PuMpErNiCkLegimp is cool, so long as the feature I need is documented06:54
Mr_Milenkoyeah in all honestly it does come off as "What the hell is this.."06:55
daskogBelive it or not there will be a Opensource Creative pack in the coming 2 years06:55
Mr_Milenkobut it grows on you06:55
ColonelPaniqueGimp is one of those bomboclot recursive acronyms, it be standing for "Gimp Is Mediocre Photoshop" boiiii!06:55
Mr_Milenkolmao06:55
PuMpErNiCkLe0_006:55
Mr_MilenkoGNU Infilitrated My Photoshop06:55
Mr_MilenkoInfiltrated*06:55
Mr_Milenkobah06:55
uoouGimp is kinda shit but photoshop is a real pain in the ass to use06:55
uooubut a pain in the ass I'm used to06:56
skonGimp is More Productive :-D06:56
daskogGimp is hmm i dont have a word for it..but it's ugly06:56
Madpilotdaskog: I'm still not sure what you mean by a "creative suite", honestly06:56
uoouut us that06:56
docta_vwhat about gimpshop06:56
uoouI read about someone doing a PS-like interface for gimp06:56
Kindredthe windows version of gimp is a horrible experience06:56
uoouI didn't try it though06:56
docta_vuoou: gimpshop06:56
uoouta06:56
Mr_Milenkosure is but i didnt feal like buying Photoshop Kindred06:56
Mr_Milenkolol06:56
Mr_Milenkofeel*06:56
daskogOk lets list em up, Adobe page maker, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere06:56
daskog+++06:57
Mr_Milenkodaskog, no offense... but it doesnt seem like anyone cares :-/06:57
uoouthis is the trouble with linux I guess06:57
daskogyea i noticed...tobad realy06:57
skonDon't forget GPaint06:57
Madpilotdaskog: PS = the GIMP, Illustrator = Inkscape, and there are already good HTML/web editors...06:57
uoouthe only... area that's really well catered for is coding and stuff that relates to that06:57
Mr_MilenkoTuxPaint!06:57
skonYess06:57
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PuMpErNiCkLelol06:57
PuMpErNiCkLeTuxPaint :o06:58
daskoggimp haaaa..06:58
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Davey`actually, InkScape is an amazing Vector graphics application06:58
paulproteus|laptMadpilot: There are good Linux WYSIWYG HTML editors?06:58
uoounow if someone would port all the shit they have on osx to linux we'd be cool06:58
PuMpErNiCkLeThere are actually some pretty cool image manipulation programs for linux.06:58
paulproteus|laptuoou: Totally. (-:06:58
Mr_Milenkoagreed uoou06:58
Davey`paulproteus|lapt: the only one thats worth anything is Nvu, but it sucks still06:58
Mr_Milenkolol06:58
Madpilotpaulproteus|lapt: WYSIWYG editors are never good, so who cares? :P06:58
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Kindredthere are no good wysiwyg editors06:58
PuMpErNiCkLeie, potrace, which converts bitmaps to vector "drawing-style" images...06:58
paulproteus|laptDavey: That's what I thought. (-:06:59
Mr_MilenkoDreamweaver06:59
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daskogsorry but if the Gimp dev team cant stick to industrial standards the 99% of industry people whant use it! My creative studio is on the %06:59
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ColonelPaniquehttp://www.tradeshowhell.com/?q=penguinpiss06:59
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PuMpErNiCkLeColonelPanique: >_<06:59
Mr_Milenkowho gives a rats arse about standards!06:59
uoougimp, like most linux apps, is a good powerful app with a fucking awful inconsistent interface06:59
Mr_Milenkolol06:59
Kindredtables for everyone06:59
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Mr_Milenkouoou chill with the cursing, at least try to hide it...07:00
Mr_Milenko(i noticed i slipped a couple times)07:00
daskogwell im just sharing my toughts ..will newer do that again07:00
uoouwhy, is my nan here?07:00
daskogi guess people today is just to arogant or waaaay up there in the skyes07:01
Mr_MilenkoThere are minors in this channel, and the devs/ops and users seem to frown upon it07:01
Madpilotdaskog: by "industrial standards" to you actually mean "how Adobe does it"?07:01
daskognoooo07:01
PuMpErNiCkLeMr_Milenko: The ops are paying attention? :o07:01
daskogdid i say that?07:01
Mr_Milenkonot today07:01
Mr_Milenkolol07:01
Mr_Milenkobut we all know nalioth is lurking about07:01
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uoouI swore more when I was a minor07:02
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uoouwas more fun back then07:02
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Mr_Milenkouoou: you just dont know.. when i found out what the F word was.. i used it against my teacher07:02
ColonelPaniqueMadpilot : Adobe pretty much sets the standard, and as for industry standards, they use them, (e.g. CYMK press/pre-press, and Pantone color scales) ;-)07:02
Mr_Milenkoi framed the warning slip that i got in kindergarten07:02
uoouhaha07:02
Mr_Milenko:P07:02
naliothuoou: please respect us with your language choices, this is a family channel07:02
PuMpErNiCkLelol07:02
Mr_Milenkoi used it 27 times in one sentance07:02
skonlike fox family?07:02
MadpilotColonelPanique: that is one weakness in the GIMP so far, it's print support...07:03
daskogMadpilot, CMYK, Pt, Histograms, etc07:03
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Mr_Milenkothose were the days... ritalin... and kindergarten07:03
daskoghigher bit rates07:03
Mr_Milenkoyou get free snacks and playdough07:03
daskogetc07:03
Mr_Milenkoand a half hour nap07:03
Mr_Milenko:D07:03
uoouI'd take a decent interface over more features any day07:03
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Mr_Milenkoto be honest the interface doesnt bother me07:04
PuMpErNiCkLeuoou: Irix? :)07:04
Mr_Milenkobut alas... it can be "cleaned up" a little bit07:04
daskogi do believe that if gimp had made a better interface the proggie would get a whole lot better..as it is today it dont makes much sense to me..still with and open mind to it07:04
uoouhaha07:04
uooufor gimp I mean07:04
uoouI agree07:04
uoouit's not so much the ugliness, aesthetics are secondary07:04
uoouit's just the inconsistency07:05
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nalioth!offtopic07:05
ubotuI guess offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!07:05
PuMpErNiCkLeWhat I think would be really kick-ass for the gimp to have is customizable menus...07:05
daskogYES!07:05
PuMpErNiCkLeThat way you can get rid of functions you never use and make it easier to find the useful stuff.07:05
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j2daoshok... how do i fix a broken package? the manual way? i tried the fix in synaptic but that didn't work... i sudo rm'ed the files in question but i still get the errors07:06
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skonj2daosh, did you try sudo apt-get update07:06
j2daoshyep07:06
dustin_can someone possibly help me out with cvscedega in a pm please?07:07
PuMpErNiCkLej2daosh: By the synaptic way, do you mean Synaptic -> edit -> Fix broken packages?07:07
skonj2daosh, what package07:07
j2daoshand sudo apt-get -f install07:07
j2daoshyep pumper07:07
PuMpErNiCkLehm07:07
j2daoshlibfame-0.9******07:07
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naliothdustin_: have you tried #cedega ?07:07
uooudpkg -remove ?07:07
dustin_no i havent, i just came here first07:07
dustin_will they help me with the cvs version?07:08
j2daoshthe package is gone i believe07:08
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crimsunj2daosh: didn't you ``apt-get remove libfame-0.9''?07:08
naliothdustin_: they should07:08
j2daoshi just su rm'ed it about 3 minutes ago07:08
dustin_is it on freenode?07:08
j2daoshyeah but it gave me the same error crim07:08
PuMpErNiCkLedustin_: yes07:08
daskogbut for real, why have none tryed to make some realy good naitive artist tools for Linux? just instead of duplicating stuff frome other platforms?07:08
dustin_thanks07:08
j2daoshE: /var/cache/apt/archives/libfame-0.9_0.9.0-0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libfame-0.9.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libfame007:08
uoourming it won't tell apt that it's not installed07:08
skondaskog, what was gimp from?07:08
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crimsunj2daosh: that's because libfame0 was already there. You need to remove that one instead.07:09
j2daoshthats what it gave me... i got rid of the /usr and the /var one... there is no libfame0 though....07:09
DJLILYAZIhow do i find where my browser files are ?07:09
daskogbesides gimp lol07:09
skonDJLILYAZI, probably /home/username/.mozilla07:09
uooudaskog: I'd say lack of interest. Coders use linux so you get image making apps good enough to make icons or whatver. Designers use OSX so they're well catered for there.07:09
daskogsorry have no answer for that07:09
Madpilotdaskog: have a look at Inkscape...07:10
DJLILYAZIskon, thats the thing its all empty07:10
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daskogbut i mean so many years why have not this evolved on the Linux platform?07:10
skonDJLILYAZI, what browser do you use07:10
uooubecause designers don't use linux07:10
j2daoshbecause linux is essentially ibm07:10
uoouand even if they do, they don't code07:10
j2daoshmicrosoft is also ibm07:10
daskogdid bill gates throw a big crack party back in the days and suckered all the Good nix developers?07:11
uoouthere's an economy in open source. It's not cash driven but it's still there07:11
dustin_cedega peeps are dicks07:11
Xenguy_Hi - I'm trying to install 'cups' but I get error 'no installation candidate'.  Anyone know what's up with that?07:11
dustin_they wont help me because they pay for the service07:11
j2daoshmac's have a tight control over hardware and software07:11
uoouthe demand is need and ability rather than cash07:11
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Yes :D  And the Borland ones, too... and etc.07:11
skonXenguy_, are you using apt-get?07:11
Xenguy_skon: yes07:11
ilba7r_Xenguy_, i thought cups is already installed07:11
j2daoshtherefore they can get more outta there hardware then an os trying to do alot of different things with it07:11
skonXenguy_, yeah..cups is usualyl installed by default07:11
Xenguy_ilba7r_: dpkg -l cups <-- says no07:11
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Xenguy_hrm07:12
uooulilyazi, what do you mean by browser files?07:12
ilba7r_Xenguy_, it is the default print server07:12
Corrupteris anybody else having problems updating lately?07:12
skonCorrupter, with the security updates?07:12
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Xenguy_ilba7r_: OK, so I'm wondering why the discrepancy07:12
PuMpErNiCkLeCorrupter: not really - I haven't noticed any updates, tbh.07:12
j2daoshyeah i am... but thats because i cant find a certain package that seems to be blocking all my updates07:12
PuMpErNiCkLeXenguy_: dpkg -l cupsys ?07:13
skonCorrupter, I've been trying to update all night and I keep getting errors that it can't connect to the ubuntu security database....and I haven't changed my sources.list so it must be the server07:13
Xenguy_PuMpErNiCkLe: I was trying: dpkg -l cups07:13
dustin_is there a cvscedega channel?07:13
PuMpErNiCkLeXenguy_: Try dpkg -l cupsys, then.07:13
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Corrupterskon: i'm getting the same error07:13
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Xenguy_PuMpErNiCkLe: OK, I'll do apt-cache show also07:14
skonCorrupter, makes me feel good :-D I didn't screw things up07:14
j2daoshdustin... do a /join #cvscegeda and let us know07:14
lysishey; what DEBIAN sources can i add to apt-get?   i'm trying to install a program called ARDOUR but it's not able to find it with the sources included with breezy.   ardour claims it's on debian sources . . .07:14
daskogJust checked out Inkscape..looks promesing =)07:14
uoouI'm downloading inkscape07:14
crimsunlysis: ardour is in universe.07:14
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog, uoou : cool :)07:14
j2daosh!easysources07:14
ubotuj2daosh: Are you smoking crack?07:14
PuMpErNiCkLe!crack07:14
hejux hey ! i am  using ubuntu , how to adjust the fonts of QT programme ?07:14
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.07:14
uoouanyone used Processing at all?07:14
Mr_Milenkorofl07:15
Kr0ntabCorrupter, I always just take off the "us." of my repositories....07:15
j2daosh!easysource07:15
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:15
Kr0ntabtry that...07:15
dustin_j2daosh: no there isnt one on this server07:15
Kr0ntabI always have probs with the us mirrors...07:15
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daskogi feel like i have to take this in my own hands.07:15
lysiscrimsun, i have universe enabled.07:15
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Corrupterkrontab: thats what i usually do, but this isn't a US site, it's plantemirror or something like that07:15
daskogis it hard to Code for linux?07:15
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theconartist.....07:16
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: It can be...07:16
Kr0ntabhmmm... is that something you put in?  thats not a default mirror07:16
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daskogwhat about java?07:16
crimsunlysis: that's because the package is called 'ardour-gtk'07:16
naliothubotu: tell daskog about java07:16
daskogiknow a tiny bit Lol07:16
PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Some people worship it, some people hate it.07:16
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uooudaskog: have a look at www.processing.org07:16
hejuxhey ! i am  using ubuntu , how to adjust the fonts of QT programme ? any suggest ?07:16
skonAnyone know what unix services take up the most memory, generally?07:16
daskog99% hoog07:16
Corrupterkr0ntab: i honestly have no idea whatsoever where it came from or what it updates07:17
daskogya we love it07:17
lysiswhy would ardour's site not specify this!!! :(07:17
Mr_Milenkohejux: what is your native language?07:17
morphixon my other windows pc in the house.. i have Remote Administrator(radmin) installed on it so i could control it from this pc (when i'm in windows).. does anyone know of a linux app that can connect to radmin controlled pc's??07:17
PuMpErNiCkLeskon: Check in system monitor...07:17
hejuxMr_Milenko, chinese07:17
morphixradmn > vnc07:17
daskogthen we can just throw that other X2 core on and sprinkle some crack after words..yaaay07:17
j2daoshmorphix07:17
Mr_Milenkonalioth: is there a chinese support chan?07:17
j2daoshu dont need vnc07:17
j2daoshgo to applications...internet...terminal services07:18
PuMpErNiCkLemorphix: Do you know if radmn works under Wine?  That might work...07:18
lysiscrimsun, ardour could not connect to jack.   how do i get this to happen?07:18
naliothMr_Milenko: i believe there is, however i don't think there will be many folks there07:18
Mr_Milenkohmm thought it might help him better then us trying to explain in english07:18
Mr_Milenko:(07:18
crimsunlysis: did you install and configure 'jackd', too?07:18
Xenguy_PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks, it looks good now (I'll know soon :-)07:18
PuMpErNiCkLeXenguy_: Awesome. :)07:18
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lysiscrimsun, i installed jack.  not sure how to configure.07:19
morphixhrm.07:19
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Xenguy_BTW, I think it is a *stupid* idea to rename cups -> cupsys...07:19
Xenguy_too confusing07:19
theconartistlysis, run jackd --off07:19
crimsunlysis: not jack but jackd.07:19
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lysisdone.07:19
theconartistlol07:19
j2daoshlol07:19
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lysisstill won't connect.07:20
theconartistLOL07:20
theconartistrofl07:20
hydroksydestupid nz.ubuntulinux.org07:20
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PuMpErNiCkLeOMG07:20
theconartistthat made my day07:20
crimsunlysis: you have to configure jackd first07:20
PuMpErNiCkLepriceless07:20
crimsunlysis: there are a variety of guides on the WWW07:20
lysishmm.07:20
hydroksydeis there any way to configure the the update program to only bug me for security related updates???07:20
PuMpErNiCkLeThat should go to bash.org07:20
theconartistyes it should07:20
PuMpErNiCkLetheconartist: You first. :)07:21
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lysishydroksyde, i think you would have to disable the rest of your sources from apt.07:21
daskoghttp://www.processing.org/07:21
hydroksydehmmm07:21
hydroksydeok07:21
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lysishydroksyde, leaving only the security sources un-commented.07:21
hydroksydethat's a pain07:21
lysisit is . . .07:21
theconartistPuMpErNiCkLe, bash.org keeps refusing my "connection"07:21
daskogwhat a nice site07:21
hydroksydehow retarded07:21
lysisi just do em all.   no reason not to for me.07:21
crimsunhydroksyde: anything new in -updates or -security is what triggers it.07:22
hejuxyou know the skype's face  seems very ugly under ubuntu07:22
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skonHow come apache says it takes up 223MB of virtual memory but when I shut it down, my memory level stays the same?07:22
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PuMpErNiCkLetheconartist: I'll do it, then.07:22
hydroksydecrimsun, interesting07:22
crimsunhydroksyde: and fwiw, anything that lands in either is worth being notified about07:22
lysisskon, are you sure it's no longer running in top / system monitor?07:22
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crimsunhydroksyde: I'd disable breezy-backports, probably07:22
skonlysis, yes, it disappears and it no longer says 223MiB07:22
ilba7r_skon type free in a terminal and see your cache07:23
lysisand your RAM AND SWAP are not updating?07:23
daskoguoou, you work with coding etc?07:23
PuMpErNiCkLetheconartist: http://www.bash.org/?59967007:23
skonlysis: they just change like 0.5% or whatever07:23
theconartistnice  work07:23
ircleuserdoes anyone know where i can get aac support for breezy?07:23
uooudaskog: not really. Most of my work is in flash, rest is php/mysql07:24
theconartistflash :/07:24
daskoghey how cool07:24
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skonilba7r_, doesn't change when i start or stop it07:24
nalioth!offtopic07:24
ubotuit has been said that offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!07:24
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uooudon't hate me07:24
tonyyarussoircleuser, Check the restricted formats page for it.07:24
naliothircleuser: install gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad07:24
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uoouI'm into art really07:24
daskogim moastly into 3d cgi vfx..but been paying more intrest to PHP/flash latetly07:24
pablo928 uoou:do you work in flasj with Linux?07:25
lysisskon, .5%?   are you sure you're looking at RAM and not LOAD?07:25
daskogno07:25
uoouno, just in windows07:25
daskogWindows07:25
uooudaskog: 3dmax?07:25
daskogbut i whant linux for my 3d07:25
daskogrender speed is awesome07:25
skonlysis: user memory, swap memory in Gnome system monitor07:25
lysishmmm07:25
ilba7r_skon than you can check what program is using which resource using top07:25
theconartistroflztix07:25
uoouyeah07:25
skonlysis: is it because apache is listed as "sleeping"?07:25
uoouI have a friend who does that stuff for a living07:25
lysisskon, if apache is sleeping, it might not allocate the memory07:25
daskogSoftimage XSI507:26
lysisnot the RAM anyway;  MAYBE the swap . . .07:26
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skonwell when does apache wake up?07:26
uoouoooh, the daddy07:26
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uoouso have you had a look at ... ahh what's it called?07:26
lysisskon, when it's being USED it will wake.07:26
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daskoguoou, did use 3d studio max but thats long time ago07:26
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uooublender, that's the one. Had a look at that07:27
uoou?07:27
lysisskon, if something is happening to make apache actually do some work . . . load a page, update something . . . whatever . . . then it's ACTIVE.  otherwise it's ASLEEP07:27
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skonlysis: okay that makes sense now07:27
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daskoguoou, Yes allso been watching closely what they are doing, find the whole project realy cool07:27
Diablo69sup guys07:27
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Wup?07:28
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daskogBlender has realy matured over the years07:28
uoouit's interesting - same problem as gimp (interface). I've had a play a few times though07:28
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uoouaye it has07:28
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daskogyea, only thing that makes me wonder thoe. How the he** do i use it07:28
uoouhahaha yeah07:28
uooureally have to read howtos07:29
uoouso har dto memorise, all on the keyboard07:29
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daskoguoou, XSI, MAX, MAya all easy compared to Blenders interface (at least i think so)07:29
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uoouyeah07:29
uoouonly one that was as bad was lightwave. That had an awful interface back in the day07:29
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daskogbut Blender is free so im not giving it up..imagine it in a couple of years where will it be then?07:30
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uoouyup07:30
uooufree is important I think07:30
dustin_if i try to use a command and it says not found, but if i locate the it and i get a bunch of locations /root what does that mean07:30
marcsterhi. i just updated my kernel and now im using 2.6.12. where can i find kernel-sources and kernel-tree for this so i can reinstall nvidia driver?07:30
Matthew_Wcrimsun; are you here?07:30
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crimsunMatthew_W: only for a for more minutes07:30
Diablo69hey I was wondering, I have been having this lame problem with hotplug, after I installed the ubuntu dvd/cd, I have tried both, the install went fine, but the system froze when it was starting hotplug, and I was wondering if I can mount what I have, so I can edit the kernel and recompile it without hotplug07:31
uoouI'm actually thinking of having a go at proper coding. I'm doing some pattern matching stuff and java is too slow07:31
crimsunMatthew_W: -for07:31
daskogI just saw some realy impressive Blender stuff the other day07:31
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Matthew_Wcrimsun; there's some Option line to add to the Device part of the xorg.conf to force it to use DVI. What is this, because my xorg is hosed.07:31
Matthew_W(I can't get to a web browser to check x-x)07:31
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PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: There are a couple things you can do to fix that.07:31
crimsunMatthew_W: binary-only Nvidia drivers?07:31
Diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: I am open for suggestions :)07:32
Matthew_Wcrimsun; I think so, yes.07:32
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PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: One is to hit ctrl-c one it gets to the 'loading hotplug' stage to make it skip that.07:32
crimsunMatthew_W: documented in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README*07:32
daskoguoou, What pattern stuff?07:32
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: (Or so I've heard... I've never tried it.)07:32
krodvdauthor question.  It's creating a file named VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO but mkisofs -dvd-video looks for VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO.   Any ideas on how to fix that?07:32
Diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: any others :)?07:32
uooudaskog: linguistics stuff. I'm looking into the indexicality of written language. It's currently working off a huge (millions of records) database and I've made a script to generate the info I need but it's going to take about 500 hours to execute07:33
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PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Another is to run chmod -x on /sbin/hotplug /etc/rc0.d/K89hotplug /etc/rc6.d/K89hotplug07:33
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daskoguoou, ouch! what about C++?07:33
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daskogor Python?07:34
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: That assumes you can at least boot once into Ubuntu or use a livecd or something.07:34
uooudaskog: yeah, I think that's where I'm going to have to look07:34
Diablo69can you pm me with instructions on how to dot hat07:34
Diablo69I have tried everything including dapper07:34
Diablo69and it won't run past the hardware/hotplug part07:34
uooupython would have the same probs as java I think07:34
Matthew_Wcrimsun; I don't think it's in here.07:34
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daskoghmm probaly07:34
Matthew_Wcrimsun; I don't quite know what the TLS is, but I think that's it.07:34
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Sonderbladeif i remove ALL the -dev packages on my box will ubuntu break down?07:34
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dustin_can someone help me out with cvscedega, the cedega channel has been no help07:35
crimsunMatthew_W: the dvi option is. I used to use those binary-only drivers.07:35
uoousaying that though, it's actually sql slowing me down at present07:35
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: And the final one that I can think of is if you have a combined 'onboard' graphics chip and a proper video card, remove the vid card and then try booting.07:35
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Hotplug has severe issues with that kind of setup.07:35
Matthew_Wcrimsun; erm.  Ok, well... *looks through readme again*07:35
Diablo69so take out my ati radion 9250 card?07:35
crimsunMatthew_W: it's the readme that Nvidia distributes07:35
marcsterhi. i just updated my kernel and now im using 2.6.12. where can i find kernel-sources and kernel-tree for this so i can reinstall nvidia driver?07:35
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crimsunSonderblade: not at all07:36
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Only if you have another 'integrated' video controller.07:36
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Diablo69I think I do07:36
Diablo69how can I be certain?07:36
daskoguoou, A friend of mine has develope some cinda C++ engine Like OpenGL is for Graphics that will speed up the runtime dramaticly..but im not that much into coding07:36
Matthew_Wcrimsun; I looked in the reading you pointed me to07:36
crimsunSonderblade: by default it doesn't install any07:36
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Ummm... check the back of your computer; if you have another VGA port that's not on your video card, you do.07:36
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PuMpErNiCkLeOr DVI, if that's what you have.07:37
uooudaskog: yeah, same really. I'm not interested in coding for its own sake. Just to produce artwork. SO, from that point of view I think learning c++ or something would waste  alot of time07:37
crimsunMatthew_W: README.txt.gz07:37
Matthew_Wcrimsun; how do I untar it?07:37
crimsunMatthew_W: just use vi to read it.07:38
lysistar zxvf filename07:38
lysisthat's how i always do it anyway . . .07:38
uooubrb07:38
daskoguoou, Id be intrest to know what tools you use for you art?07:38
uoouhang on, gotta reboot07:38
uoouback in 507:38
daskogok07:38
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Matthew_Wcrimsun; how do I close vi?07:41
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crimsunZZ07:41
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Sonderbladecrimsun: ok thanks07:41
Matthew_Wcrimsun; z does nothing.07:42
Matthew_WOh!07:42
Matthew_Wlol07:42
DRAGON_Ultraexit07:42
crimsunthose are two capital Zs07:42
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Matthew_WStill, nothing o_O07:42
crimsun[esc] :q[enter] 07:42
SatanPuMpErNiCkLe: thanx07:42
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PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: ?07:43
SatanI got d/c07:43
Satanthis laptop is gay07:43
Satan<---Diablo6907:43
PuMpErNiCkLeah... right07:43
Satanyeah sorry07:43
PuMpErNiCkLenp07:43
Satanlast night I was "naughty-nurse"07:43
Satanhehe07:43
PuMpErNiCkLelol!07:43
PuMpErNiCkLeThat's awesome...07:43
Satanyeah07:43
Matthew_Wcrimsun; I now have 3 of my 4 terminals locked w/ vi...07:44
Satanno body suggested ctl c to me before07:44
Satanodd on how simple some things are07:44
Satando I have to do this every time07:44
PuMpErNiCkLeDoes it work?07:44
crimsunMatthew_W: :q  exits07:44
Satanor can I google for a answer on how to recomplie my kernel without hotplug07:44
Satanand yes it worked07:44
SatanI think07:44
Satanits07:44
PuMpErNiCkLesweet07:44
Sataninstalling packages07:44
PuMpErNiCkLeOkay, it worked, then.07:44
SatanI might have to make a page about that07:44
Satangoogle didn't have one07:44
crimsunSatan: hotplug is a userspace program. It has nothing to do with the kernel.07:44
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SatanI have read at least 50 or 60 different things07:44
PuMpErNiCkLeIf you want to disable hotplug, once it's finished handling packages, run these commands:07:45
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MorgI'm seeing evolution-excha, evolution-data-, and evolution-alarm when I do ps -e, but I want nothing to do with Evolution. How do I stop them from running?07:45
PuMpErNiCkLe'sudo chmod -x /sbin/hotplug' 'sudo chmod -x /etc/rc0.d/K89hotplug' 'sudo chmod -x /etc/rc6.d/K89hotplug'07:45
SatanPuMpErNiCkLe: to my understading hotplug just auto mounts your usb don't it?07:46
MorgAnd I do know it's an e-mail client. :)07:46
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: It handles that, and it also manages some hardware detection on boot.07:46
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Satanhmmm thats what i thought07:46
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SatanI just switched from fbsd07:47
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: It shouldn't be a big problem if you don't have it.07:47
SatanPuMpErNiCkLe: you familar with hacking psp's?07:47
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odathi everyone07:47
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: Nope, sorry.07:47
DivGradCurlAnybody know much about building a boot disk, 'initrd', and 'linuxrc'?  I'd like (need) to try something out of my league.07:47
Satanhmmm ok07:47
SatanI know how to07:47
SatanI hear you can mount usb devices on ubuntu07:47
Satanwhich is what you use07:47
geforceternoob warning::   "does the latest ubuntu support geforce 6600gt?"07:47
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: yes07:48
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marcsterhow do i add contrib and non-free ?07:48
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: You'll probably want to install the nvidia driver, though, which doesn't come with the base install because of licensing issues.07:48
daskogdriver 7667 does07:48
SatanPuMpErNiCkLe: what is your 2 favorite os you have tried?07:48
daskogi think07:48
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: Which means running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings"07:49
geforceter"i have the live 5.1 cd from the free Shipit and tried to boot it it does everytihng but when it startups the screen pecome full of purplish lines07:49
DivGradCurlSatan: Was the "I know how to" comment to me?07:49
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: Ubuntu and MacOSX07:49
Satanfrom what I have seen07:49
Satanubuntu and fbsd are my favorites07:49
SatanI like to try something new when I get bored lol07:50
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: Do you have a CRT monitor?07:50
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SatanDivGradCur: what are you refering to?07:50
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: Me too.. I think I'll try Solaris soon :D07:50
MorgHow do I simply see if a package is installed or not?07:50
geforceterya07:50
PuMpErNiCkLeMorg: If you know the exact package name, run 'dpkg -l name'.07:50
Satanyeah I tried to hack one of those boxes legally through a friend for a challange he gave us07:50
Satanand no one could do it07:50
PuMpErNiCkLeMorg: If not, open synaptic and search for something kinda matching the name and pray. :D07:51
Satannot even my buddies who were going to take over a whole ton of computers with one worm07:51
DivGradCurlSatan: (Still) Trying to boot Ubuntu I just installed on a USB external hard drive using a computer whose BIOS doesn't support USB Booting.  Having a boot disk etc doesn't work, since the BIOS lacks the drivers.07:51
timfrostmarcster, The ubuntu equivalents of these are universe (=contrib) and multiverse(=non-free).07:51
MorgPuMpErNiCkLe: Well, I'm doing this in a terminal07:51
marcsterthanks07:51
ilba7r_Morg, you can use synaptic you can use sudo aptitude search if i is the first thing you see it is installed07:51
SatanDivGradCurl: I think I fixed that now07:51
PuMpErNiCkLeMorg: Then use dpkg -l name_of_package07:51
MorgAnd if it's listed that means it's installed?07:52
DivGradCurlSatan:  Fortunately, somebody figured out how to do it for firewire and usb ( http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html ) but it involves something about building a linux kernel and special initrd.07:52
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Satanhmmm07:52
DivGradCurlSatan: (see the two-phase boot section)07:52
Satancan you recomplie your kernel on ubuntu how you wish?07:52
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: That can be a problem with CRTs - it won't autodetect the right HorizSync and VertRefresh values.07:52
Satanrecompile*07:52
SatanI always built my own custom kernel on freebsd07:53
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PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: That can be a problem with CRTs - it won't autodetect the right HorizSync and VertRefresh values.07:53
DivGradCurlSatan:  See, that I wouldn't know.  I've done tons of research on how this can even be done but am completely new when it comes to implimentation.07:53
Satanahh ok07:53
Matthew_WAnyone know what the OPTION I would put in DEVICE in my xorg.conf file to allow it to use DVI?07:53
geforceter2so is there any solution?07:53
Satangeforceter: I think ctrl + c at boot up worked for me07:54
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: Yeah, kinda... the monitor should have a label on the back or a button on the front that will show the right values.07:54
DivGradCurlSatan:  So, I get the general idea - build this and slip in this code here and this is the overarching strategy - but actually putting together the entire thing is where experience is a must.07:54
DenHi - Any ubuntu developers here?07:54
odatgnome rocks!07:54
geforceter2the fH and fV??07:54
SatanDivGradCurl: programing isn't my strong point yet, but build, I mean comment out what I didn't want and add a few lines to the kernel to get sound support07:54
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daskogyeah i Love those in the Lord of the ring to =P07:55
Satanby build*07:55
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: It shouldn't be a problem when you're not using a graphical interface, so if you can drop to a console, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and when it gets to monitor configuration, select 'advanced' and enter the right values.07:55
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: That should fix it.07:55
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PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: Sounds about right.07:55
geforceter2ok07:55
DivGradCurlSatan:  Eh, if you recognize the words I dropped earlier and know how to build a boot disk, then I'd appreciate help going ahead.07:55
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: To get to a plain console interface, hit alt + F207:55
geforceter2in the live cd can i choose to go to console?07:55
geforceter2ok07:56
geforceter2thanks al07:56
Satanuhh sure, pm me wiht what you need help with07:56
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: np :)07:56
geforceter2u were very helpful07:56
PuMpErNiCkLethank you07:56
DivGradCurlSatan:  I have the advantage of having an external with the first phase of installation complete, two computers, one of which already has Ubuntu installed.07:56
geforceter2shall come back for more help07:56
garryTo get back out of the plain console, alt F707:56
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: Excellent. :)07:56
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter2: What garry said.07:56
SatanDivGradCurl: I used a usb dvd drive to install mine07:56
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geforceter2ok07:57
geforceter2but is the config in sude easy?07:58
garryI remember, I got curous about going to console mode, but had to hit reset because I didn't know how to get back to the gui. .... Doh!07:58
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DivGradCurlSatan: According to the guide, "we need to create two things, a kernel and an initrd image."  They provide code for the image, and it doesn't sound like much editing of the kernel is needed, but what it means to edit and build a kernel is new to me.07:58
geforceter2sudo i mean..07:58
SatanI have come from the land of freebsd LOL, I know it like the back of my hand..well for the most part, enough to manuaver around it for 2 years and get it to do what I want07:59
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Satanoy shit07:59
SatanI tried to start x07:59
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DivGradCurlSatan: By bad; they provide the linuxrc which apparently is "inside" the initrd.  Whatever "inside" means.07:59
SatanPuMpErNiCkLe: I seem to be at a cmd prompt, but x won't work08:00
Satanit crashed on me08:00
Satanwith a error08:00
DivGradCurlSo, yeah, where do I go about starting this entire project?  I assume I need to download something, make some changes - I think I understand what I need to change at this point - put it back together, and put it on a disk.08:01
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: What's the error?08:01
Satanuhh It crashed08:02
Satanlet me reboot and try to see the error again08:02
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: Relatively easy... it's completely interactive.08:02
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: okay.08:02
DivGradCurlSatan: (a) Where do I get a "kernel", (b) how do I take it apart so I can tweak the initrd linuxrc, (c) how do I compile it back together, and (d) create an image and get it on a floppy.08:02
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: There are a lot of pre-made boot floppies - have you checked to see if there's one that matches your requirements?08:03
freeloveeven after doing pppoeconf the connection isn't started at boot time! even when i do pon it doesnt start!08:03
freeloveive to ppoeconf everytime i log in!08:03
freelovehelp!08:03
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DivGradCurlPuMpErNiCkLe:  Yeah, but I alwas could have missed something.  The challenge here is that I have to create a virtual kernel that loads inself into the RAM, loads some drivers, detects the dang external, and then boots into the kernel on the external.08:04
daskogIs the Ubuntu team spending more time developing on the x86-64, x86 or both?08:04
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: woah08:04
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DivGradCurlPuMpErNiCkLe:  I've already spent a bunch of time tweaking the grub already installed on the local machine, and it quite simply doesn't realize there is an external there before it tries booting!08:05
NaughtyNurseoy sorry08:05
NaughtyNurse<---Diablo6908:05
PuMpErNiCkLeNaughtyNurse: wb08:05
DivGradCurlWell, it is scarier than it sounds.  I think.  http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html provides some oustanding device.08:05
NaughtyNursethanx08:05
NaughtyNurseI hate this damn winblows machine08:05
Matthew_WDoes anyone know the option line you have to add to make a DVI monitor work in the nvidia drivers? I've SCOURED the readme...08:05
odatNaughtyNurse, lol08:06
DivGradCurlPuMpErNiCkLe: Everything I need to do it is intermediate from the looks of things.  However, I ain't intermediate.08:06
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: What are you? ;)08:06
DivGradCurlOh, and if anyone tries to read the dang article I suggest just skipping down to the "Two-phase boot" sectons.08:06
PuMpErNiCkLeNaughtyNurse: Did you catch the error message this time?08:06
NaughtyNursePuMpErNiCkLe: Screen is blue with a lot of jumbled stuff on it "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface)  It is likely that it is not setup correctly would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?08:07
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PuMpErNiCkLeNaughtyNurse: say no.. it's rarely relevant.08:07
PuMpErNiCkLeNaughtyNurse: Once the error message goes away, try logging in and running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.08:07
NaughtyNursePuMpErNiCkLe: The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly08:07
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DivGradCurlPuMpErNiCkLe:  Completely new.  I used Norton Partiton to carve out room on my dads comp and then installed Ubuntu for him.  At this point, I know how to install Ubuntu, and how to move around in directories.  He asked me how to install Opera and I had no idea where to start (the forums held the answer)08:08
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NaughtyNursePuMpErNiCkLe: typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg" and it said sudo: Unable to lookup (none) via gethostname08:09
DivGradCurlI've been tracking this question fairly thoroughly, and there are a lot of people with the same problem and no answer.  This is the first method I've seen.  And frankly, it makes a lot of sense and doesn't seem too hard if one understands how to tweak kernels and burn images, which I believe is intermediate.08:10
PuMpErNiCkLeNaughtyNurse: wtf o_O08:10
NaughtyNursePuMpErNiCkLe: isn't that f'd08:10
odatDivGradCurl, why do you want opera08:10
DivGradCurlErp, I mispoke when I said "it is scarier than it sounds."  Got it backwards.08:10
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: tweaking kernels sounds more advanced to me08:11
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PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: It's one of the few things I haven't tackled...08:11
DivGradCurlodat:  I installed it for my dad, HE wanted Opera.  I use Firefox.08:11
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PuMpErNiCkLeNaughtyNurse: hmm08:11
odatDivGradCurl, if you can't figure out how to get opera on your machine how the hell you gonna reconfigure and compile a kernel08:12
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DivGradCurlPuMpErNiCkLe:  Heh, I really have no idea how advanced kernel tweaking is.08:12
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garryI've compiled kernels up the wazoo for slack, but I do not know about ubuntu, I'd hate to give out some advice that would wreck someone's system.08:12
tejasorry for offtopic question. how to enter rescue environment in freebsd?08:12
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PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: It's infinitely variable, so ^_^08:12
geforceterstill no luck08:13
Diablo69oy f'ing winblows08:13
Diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: any idea man08:13
Diablo69I need to completly turn off hotplug08:13
PuMpErNiCkLeteja: Try in #freebsd08:13
odatDivGradCurl, are you familiar with synaptic?08:13
DivGradCurlodat:  (a) I didn't give up on Opera, I just didn't know where to start.  And I'm not here asking for help with Opera because looking at the message boards and tweaking things around on my own is enough.08:13
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: Can you login on the Ubuntu box?08:13
tejait says u require authentication or sth I dont know how to do08:13
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PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: Have you tried downloading the installer from Opera.com?  They provide an ubuntu-specific version...08:13
tejaplease_register08:13
DivGradCurlodat:  I briefly read about Synaptic.  Either a bootloader or rescue thing, not 100% sure which.08:14
ilba7r_DivGradCurl, just go to opera website and add the deb repos to your source list08:14
garryif you drop hotplug, you might not have usb surpport. The latest kernel requires udev .71 which needs hotplug If I read correctly.08:14
DivGradCurlOh, wait Synaptic is the package manager.08:14
geforceteri booted the live cd again then after all the loading it showend the screen full of lines then i alt+f2 but it didnt show the console08:14
DivGradCurlYeah, that I figured out how to use.08:14
__Dwaynesynaptic is a package manager08:14
odatDivGradCurl, yes here add this    deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free08:14
PuMpErNiCkLegarry: But if he can't boot with hotplug on, he might as well drop it.08:14
Madpilot!tell DivGradCurl about opera08:14
globehow do I change my default mp3 player to xmms?08:14
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odatnow since microsoft bought opera i would expect to see it around for linux anymore08:14
garryPuMpErNiCkLe nods.08:14
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Diablo69shit08:15
vilmantaswhat is wrong in proftpd config if it says anonymous password is incorrect?08:15
DivGradCurlodat:  Yep, already did.  But my point about Opera is that using Synaptic manager was new for me, not that I wasnt able to research it.'08:15
Diablo69any ideas on how to get aroundt his08:15
Diablo69or is the answr08:15
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: whoa, sorry - ctrl + alt + F208:15
Madpilotodat: nobody's bought Opera, unless it's happened in the last 24hrs...08:15
Diablo69I can't have ubuntu on this box08:15
ilba7r_odat oh tthey did that08:15
geforceterhah08:15
geforceterok08:15
PuMpErNiCkLegeforceter: I'm slow today :=/08:15
geforceternvm08:15
odatMadpilot, was in the news08:15
geforcetershall boot again now08:15
vilmantaswhat is wrong in proftpd config if it says anonymous password is incorrect?08:15
DivGradCurlUnlike Opera, building the two-phase boot disk is what I could use help with.08:15
PuMpErNiCkLeodat: MS didn't buy it...08:15
Madpilotodat: it's not on Opera's own homepage...08:16
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ilba7r_did not see it on slash too08:16
PuMpErNiCkLeodat: There was a rumor, but the Opera CEO said it wouldn't happen.08:16
dabaRglobe: right click on a mp3 file, select properties, open with>choose xmms08:16
j2daoshwhat is up people?08:16
globedabaR: thanks.08:16
DivGradCurlActually, a breezy install of opera is on their webpage.08:16
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Madpilotodat: running "microsoft buys opera" thru Google News brings up only a round of silly rumours from before Christmas...08:17
j2daoshhow do i fix unmet dependencies08:17
Diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: Is there anyway to get ubuntu to work on my box?08:17
j2daoshDivGradCurl, hows it going... find anything on your compaq mobo?08:17
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Can you log in through the console?08:17
DivGradCurlj2daosh:  Heya!08:17
Diablo69the screen flashes black then goes tot hat damn error08:17
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: After you dismiss the error message, though... can you login?08:18
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Diablo69yes08:18
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: excellent08:18
DivGradCurlj2daosh:  Sort of.  The grub isn't the problem.  I did a ton of research, and found a probably solution here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html08:18
odatMadpilot, then i guess i got fooled by linuxtoday then08:18
Diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: what now08:18
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: sudo chmod -x /sbin/hotplug && sudo chmod -x /etc/rc0.d/K89hotplug && sudo chmod -x /etc/rc6.d/K89hotplug08:19
garryI had a similar isue Diablo69, I set the drive it was on, as the first boot disk, and it started working.08:19
DivGradCurlj2daosh:  The "two-phase boot" section is the main point of interest.  It seems possible but relies on tweaking kernels and building/burning disk images.08:19
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Madpilotodat: looks like it - it was just an oddball rumour that went around, I guess...08:19
garrymight try what PuMpErNiCkLe said irst tho.08:19
odatMadpilot, ahhh my bad08:19
garryfirst08:19
DivGradCurlj2daosh:  Satan and odat were giving me some advice.  Any of you three curious to help me obtain/edit/build the proper kernel?08:20
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole, sorry ;D08:20
odatMadpilot, does opera still have that advertisment banner at the top of their browser08:20
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Sorry, that was to DivGradCurl08:20
Diablo69shit same thing08:20
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Ignore second last message08:20
Diablo69unable to lookup none via gethost name08:20
Madpilotodat: no, that's been for quite a while08:20
odatDivGradCurl, why are you trying to build a kernel08:20
DivGradCurlPuMpErNiCkLe:  *lol*  That's cool.08:20
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: Sorry, but out of my league with kernels. :D08:21
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Hang on a sec, I'm gonna look up that error...08:21
DivGradCurlodat:  " In a nutshell, the kernel is booted as normal; but instead of mounting the "real" root file system, a miniature root filesystem is created in RAM, and that is mounted. Any number of arbitrary steps can then be performed in this initial environment before the real root is mounted and we switch to using the real root and destroy the initial RAM disk.    This is useful in all sorts of circumstances, but for our purposes we w08:21
Diablo69k08:21
garryDivGradCurl, Its a lot of little steps, hard to explain it in full, there are so many variations, such as having to rename system.map in specific ways and the vmlunuz as well to keep a backup kernel avail via grub incase things go wonkers08:22
Madpilotodat: been *gone* for quite a while, I meant... :P08:22
DivGradCurlodat: " In order to use this method, we need to create two things, a kernel and an initrd image.    The kernel is just a regular kernel which has initrd support built in. The initrd image is a loopback filesystem image which contains our mini-root filesystem (this image can optionally compressed with gzip to reduce its size). " That about sums it up.08:22
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DivGradCurlodat:  The thing is, I'd be building the kernel for a boot disk rather than an internal, so it is (relatively) safe.08:23
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Diablo69DivGradCurl: I was thingin about your question with knowledge, read the fbsd handbook on compling a custom kernel foudn at www.freebd.org, adn that should explain to you some steps I took to do it, although I don't know if there the same08:23
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82900.html offers a potential solution08:24
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DivGradCurlDiablo69:  *lol*  Cute.08:24
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: from what's on that webpage, I think we can fix the 'sudo' problem, and from there get the rest fixed.08:25
garryYeah, and I find so much out-dated info on kernel compiling that it is bound to be confusing and frustrating to those starting out on the brave adventure of kernel compiling.08:25
Diablo69ok one sec08:25
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garryI've seen articles that stared out about compiling 2.6.x kernels, but the last half, pertained to kernel 2.4.x08:26
Diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: where is it at?08:26
Diablo69I didn't see anythign about it08:26
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: kinda everywhere08:26
DivGradCurlgarry:  The article notes that anything 2.0.X should be enough.08:27
Diablo69you lost me @ PuMpErNiCkLe08:27
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Basically, what they suggest doing is rebooting, hitting 'ESC' once you get to Grub and selecting 'Recovery mode', and through that automatically gaining root access.08:27
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garryDivGradCurl good to know thanks. It gets scary when I see it and don't expect it. :)08:27
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DivGradCurlI don't think that it needs to be the same kernel you are even trying to boot to.  It simply needs to be a kernel that can load itself into RAM, do a scan for devices, and then boot to a specific partition.08:27
Diablo69ok let me do that08:27
Diablo69one sec08:28
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: k08:28
odatnow i have some questions about opera lol thanks a lot divGradCurl08:28
odatlol08:28
odatanyone use it?08:28
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s_spiffhey anyone know about oDC here? its a software I use to get on a local, LAN hub.08:29
DivGradCurlDiablo69:  btw, was there a non-bdsm website you were trying to point me to?08:29
s_spiff I downloaded dcgui yesterday, but it coudn't connect to the specified hub.08:29
PuMpErNiCkLeodat: Occasionally... what's the problem?08:29
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DivGradCurlodat:  Dad uses it for XP, it complained about missing libraries when I spent five minutes getting him to try to install it on Ubuntu.  Frankly, I'll worry about it once I have Ubuntu on my external!08:30
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timis it a Bad Idea to use official debian packages within ubuntu?08:31
Satanooy fucking windows08:31
Satanand laptops08:31
PuMpErNiCkLetim: kinda, yeah08:31
Satandamn battery was low so it went to "hibernate"08:31
PuMpErNiCkLetim: Not terrible, but kinda.08:31
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odatPuMpErNiCkLe, just want to know what is so nice about it08:31
lastnodehey aeon17x08:31
lastnode:)08:31
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DivGradCurlSatan: My new keyboard comes with a hibername button build in.  Located directly between the "mute" and "volume down" buttons.08:31
timPuMpErNiCkLe, why not?08:31
PuMpErNiCkLeodat: Try it and see. :)  Personally, I prefer FireFox's interface.08:31
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PuMpErNiCkLetim: Different compiler versions, different GlibC versions that they're compiled against... it can occasionally cause weird bugs.08:32
SatanPuMpErNiCkLe: it froze when it froze it said "[4294701.6700]  <0> kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt08:32
lastnodeDivGradCurl, that is bad design, aint it?08:32
Satanthen it says below that08:32
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Satan[4294701.67700] 08:32
DivGradCurllastnode:  Yes.  Very.  And it is the one button that I can't change.08:33
PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: O_o08:33
daskogPuMpErNiCkLe, Are you realy one of them new Honda robots? lol arent you sleepy`?08:33
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lastnodeDivGradCurl, stick in a knife and kill it08:33
Godone of my fallen angels is around here08:33
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PuMpErNiCkLedaskog: Not yet - I'm a night person. ^^08:33
DivGradCurllastnode:  Somehow I doubt that hitting it with a knife will be any different than hitting it with my finger.08:33
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DivGradCurllastnode:  And we all know what happens when I do that.08:33
javaddudes:08:33
javadis winex free?08:33
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PuMpErNiCkLeSatan: That sounds really really borked.08:33
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PuMpErNiCkLejavad: Yes.08:34
daskogNice to see someone is givng good support...Night everyone08:34
lastnodeDivGradCurl, switch it off, slide the knife in and pull it out, so you cant accidentally hit it anymore08:34
PuMpErNiCkLejavad: You can get it from the repositories.08:34
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poningru!info winex08:34
mitrovarrI have a little problem... I have twinview working with the tv-out, but whenever I leave the X server, the computer locks up completely08:34
mitrovarranyone else experience that08:35
odatPuMpErNiCkLe, on linux i like to stick with the most support08:35
DivGradCurlSoooooooo....  is there anybody who wants to help me tweak a kernel.  I think it can be ANY kernel ANY distro as long as it is 2.0.X+.08:35
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: Have you tried in #linux or #kernel? ;)08:35
odatDivGradCurl, go start reading08:36
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Naughty-Nursedamn box08:36
Naughty-Nursegrrrrr08:36
javadi dont have it in my reps08:36
mitrovarrI mean, it seriously freezes up, any sound playing continually repeats, etc.08:36
javadill google it08:36
Naughty-Nursesame shit @ unable to sudo08:36
DivGradCurlodat:  Isn't that the answer to any noob's question?  I've spent days just figuring out this is even possible, so I don't consider myself lazy.08:36
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PuMpErNiCkLejavad: Open Synaptic, go to Settings -> repositories and add all of them.08:37
dabaRNaughty-Nurse: are you a male or female naughty nurse? Why are you unable to sudo? do you use your password, and get rejected?08:37
Naughty-Nurse<---Diablo6908:37
Naughty-Nurse<--satan08:37
PuMpErNiCkLejavad: Also, it's called "xwine" for some odd reason... o_O08:37
Naughty-NurseI keep getting d/c08:37
DivGradCurlPuMpErNiCkLe:  Not a bad idea.  This seemed a good place to start since (a) I'm an aspiring Ubuntu user (b) it MIGHT work with any kernel, not 100% if it must be a copy, and (c) this room is extremely active.08:37
dabaR<-- not reading all the time.08:37
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dabaRI saw your nick, though.08:37
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dabaRthe diablo69 one.08:38
dabaRNaughty-Nurse: so, do you try your password?08:38
Naughty-NurseI have tried08:38
dabaRNaughty-Nurse: do you have other users on that computer?08:38
Naughty-Nursesudo chmdo -x "cmd"08:38
Naughty-Nurseand then I have tried su root08:38
Naughty-Nurseand it won't work08:38
Naughty-Nurseno fresh install08:38
dabaRwhat is cmd?08:38
dabaRoh, some command...08:38
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DivGradCurlodat:  Actually, at this point I've been pointed to a bdsm site by one person here and then told to "go start reading".08:39
linlin!realplayer08:39
ubotuwell, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:39
PuMpErNiCkLeDivGradCurl: lol08:39
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Awalasdf08:39
PuMpErNiCkLeAwal: o_O08:39
dabaRNaughty-Nurse: then you need to reboot, and choose recovery mode in grub. it will let you choose that if you hit escape while bootuing. In recovery mode, "adduser userName admin" then "reboot -n"08:39
Razor-Xdoes anyone have an idea why xpdf refuses to refresh the bottom of the document area?08:39
Awallol08:40
Naughty-Nursedoesn't work if I am not root08:40
dabaRuserName is gonna be your user name. you will add your user name to the admin group, and anyone in admin group can sudo using their user name,.08:40
Naughty-Nurseand I can't get root08:40
dabaR!sudo08:40
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:40
Naughty-Nursewhich pises me off08:40
Razor-XI dunno.... xzgv has also been working a bit weird after the Breezy upgrade08:40
dabaRNaughty-Nurse: you will be root when you boot recovery mode,08:40
Naughty-Nursenaw08:40
Naughty-NurseIt froze on hotplug again08:40
Razor-Xthey both use freetype, I tried reinstalling libfreetype6, but to no avail08:40
Naughty-Nurseso I hit ctrl c to by pass08:40
Naughty-Nurseit08:40
Naughty-Nurseand it won't work right08:40
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Razor-XI think they both use motif, so I reinstalled that too, and same thing08:40
odatDivGradCurl, i come here to help out and ask a couple questions of my own but honestly i track down a lot of my problems while i'm in here   it works better if its a combination of the two08:40
Naughty-NurseI am wodnering if ubuntu hates my guts08:40
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dabaRRazor-X: I have issues with e-vince, it goes blank a lot of the time.08:41
srbakeryo08:41
PuMpErNiCkLesrbaker: Wup?08:41
dabaRYO@@!08:41
srbakeri had my roommate burn a copy of the PPC livecd08:41
srbakerbut my mac mini won't boot it08:41
mitrovarrI've had e-vince do that.  If you sit and wait, sometimes it appears.08:41
srbakeris there something special i need to do to get it to burn from nero?08:41
Razor-XdabaR: for me, the very bottom seems to not refresh, it carries on portions of the document08:41
dabaRsrbaker: hold down "c" while booting.08:41
garryMight be time to start unplugging things Naughty-Nurse to see if you can discover what device is causing the hang.08:42
srbakerdabaR: i did08:42
Naughty-NurseI did08:42
srbakerit didn't boot off the cd08:42
Naughty-Nursecould it be my ati radion graphic card?08:42
Razor-XI like evince... but I don't use many GTK programs, so it becomes a pain to load it, but evince works perfectly in the few times I tried it08:42
tonyyarussoHow can I put spaces between entries in a Grub menu?08:42
dabaRsrbaker: did you burn it as a cd image? a bootable CD...08:42
srbakerdabaR: burned it as a cd image08:42
beobaassuming i plugged an external firewire drive into my computer, what should it's /dev entry be?08:42
garryPossibly the ATI. folks seem to have some nightmares with ati and linux, but I've heard of work arounds.08:43
Naughty-Nurseshit08:43
Naughty-Nursewell I had to put it in for x to run on fbsd08:43
Naughty-NurseI tank08:43
Naughty-Nurseshould I try and take it out08:43
garryOn my system, a firewire shows up like a sata or usb. ... dev /sdx#08:43
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Razor-XI'm looking for another common depend between xzgv and xpdf08:43
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dabaRsrbaker: well, as long as you do not just have a .iso file on teh CD it should boot. maybe a different key needs to be held down, like the apple key or something.08:43
beobayeah, i'm not finding any sd* in /dev08:44
srbakeri was thinking that it might not have written the boot sector08:44
DivGradCurlodat:  I understand completely the need to read.  But to be frank, this is an issue that isn't well addressed by Ubuntu, anywhere, and I've had to do a shitload of research to figure out what I already have.  Coming to the conclusion that a regular boot disk and a tweaked grub won't do the trick already has tweaked out my "new stuff to read about" part of my brain.08:44
srbakeri'll try again08:44
dabaRRazor-X: you can do apt-cache show-depend, I bet you tried.08:44
garryIf ye have a spare card, maybe. but i think you might find a fix b y googling for your ati brand and linux.08:44
beobaand dmesg is being uninformative08:44
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Razor-XdabaR: I am :)08:44
ilba7r_beoba, the sound dev is /dev/dsp08:44
beobailba7r_: looking for a harddrive08:45
Naughty-NurseI think I have a onboard card08:45
Razor-XdabaR: but ``apt-cache depends foo'' is the syntax08:45
Naughty-Nursenot sur though08:45
dabaRright08:45
beobai'll tweak around with it a bit08:45
Razor-Xthey both use libx11-6, but that's about all they have in common :(08:45
DivGradCurlodat:  So, yeah, sorry if asking for help building a kernel makes me lazy, but so far the most constructive piece of advice has been "go check out another room".08:45
Rikoletehi08:45
Razor-Xcan someone holler out to the MOTU's to do a recompile of libfreetype?08:45
sethkDivGradCurl, what's your question?  I just got here08:45
garryBios should be able to disable if it's integrated, but I'm hoping google will help you and you won't have to go as far as disabling ATI and swapping in a card.08:45
Naughty-Nurseuhh gary08:46
Naughty-NurseI have tried google08:46
ajmitchRazor-X: eh? why?08:46
Naughty-Nursehow would I do the bios thing08:46
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Razor-Xajmitch: some of my libfreetype programs are being a little buggy after the Breezy upgrade08:46
garrydang. I see. yeah, google sometimes just returns piles of useless info.08:46
Razor-Xajmitch: that, and libx11 are the only common libs I can see in the depends08:46
Razor-X(other than, of course, stuff like libc)08:47
sethkNaughty-Nurse, root is easy.  what's your problem with it?08:47
Naughty-Nursebbl08:47
j2daoshnaughty... go get to bios restart and before it loads anything hit either del key a few times or f2 key a few times08:47
Razor-Xajmitch: xzgv refuses to load more than a screenfull of thumbnails with `u' and xpdf doesen't refresh the bottom inch-or-so of the document08:47
DivGradCurlsethk:  Need to do the "two-phase boot" thing from http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html .08:47
Naughty-Nursesomebody needs this damn box08:47
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ajmitchRazor-X: and freetype is in main, so complaining to MOTUs won't help - you'd also need to get a bugreport filed as to why you really think it's freetype's fault08:47
sethkDivGradCurl, ok...08:47
beobawell, i'm fairly sure the computer is seeing it, as i get stuff like this in dmesg:08:47
beoba[4298336.585000]  ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:102308:47
Razor-Xajmitch: oh that's right! not MOTU's hmmm08:47
beoba[4298336.586000]  ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:102308:47
Razor-Xajmitch: you're a MOTU, right?08:48
DivGradCurlsethk: Basically, I "need to create two things, a kernel and an initrd image".08:48
ajmitchRazor-X: yes08:48
sethkDivGradCurl, ok ...08:48
Razor-Xajmitch: you have an idea why it's doing this?08:48
ajmitchRazor-X: no :)08:48
Razor-Xmeh08:48
ajmitchsince I haven't seen the problem nor heard of it from others08:48
fujisani'm having a problem with the timeslice kernel takes about 3 jiffy's too long,,,08:48
DivGradCurlsethk:  However, I'd appreciate some guidence on downloading, editing, recompiling, and burning a kernel to a boot disk.08:48
Razor-Xxzgv is still livable with, but xpdf malfunctioning is... annoying08:48
fujisanany experts?08:48
sethkDivGradCurl, ok, but you'll have to ask more specific questions08:48
DivGradCurlsethk:  I've read the article in depth, and feel comfortable doing the tweaking on my own.08:49
sethkDivGradCurl, ok, but what don't you feel comfortable with?08:49
Razor-Xunless someone can reccomend something that uses the poppler engine and doesen't use GTK or QT08:49
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DivGradCurlsethk:  I am still a bit new.  Where do I go to get a kernel, what does it mean for something to be "inside it".  Also, supposedly "Within the initrd image, there is a file called linuxrc".  A file within a file?08:50
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sethkDivGradCurl, correct08:50
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sethkDivGradCurl, because an initrd (with 2.6 now changed to initramfs) is a file system image08:50
sethkDivGradCurl, the default for 2.6 is that the initrd is a cpio archive08:51
DivGradCurlcpio archive?08:51
sethkDivGradCurl, if you are used to windows, it's equivalent to being in, say, a zip archive08:51
sethkDivGradCurl, that's a file within a file08:51
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garryOk, kernels can be had from www.kernels.org if I recall. Read the readme, and the changes. I can't with the initrd thing because when it comes to initrd in ubuntu I just don't know.08:51
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sethkDivGradCurl, cpio is a program for copying, backing up, etc.08:51
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PuMpErNiCkLeHaagen Dazs is the best commercially available ice cream, and I have some right now.  Life is good. :D08:52
DivGradCurlGot it.  And the initramfs is merely an image that contains the linuxrc file?08:52
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sethkDivGradCurl, not just the linuxrc file08:52
sethkDivGradCurl, a complete, although small of course, root file system08:52
garryAnd I always get the full source and extract somewhere for tweaking, I've found the patches flakey08:52
Razor-Xlemme try and seriously compile xpdf, I downloaded a tgz package and it had the same problem, hopefully a compile will fix it08:52
Razor-Xif it doesen't , it's a lib problem08:52
DivGradCurlbtw, thank you very much for letting me know that the initrd had been changed.  Saved me hours of probable confusion.08:52
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odatDivGradCurl, maybe Damn Small Linux will do what you want08:53
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sethkDivGradCurl, I believe the old format is also supported, but the cpio format is much much easier to make08:53
onkarshindeAnybody using cipherfunk repos?08:53
DivGradCurlOkay, so the initramfs is an image, I understand the idea there.  What is its relationship to a kernel?08:53
sethkDivGradCurl, what is happening here is this:08:53
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sethkDivGradCurl, you are creating a root file system that will be a ramdisk, that will be used only during the first stage of boot,where you can do insmod of the kernel modules that you need to boot08:54
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onkarshindeWhere can I find public key of cipherfunk repos?08:54
sethkDivGradCurl, in this case, insmod of the kernel module for firewire08:54
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garrythe initramfs commonly is loaded with modules needed to sucessfully boot. Otherwise, it might need the module, before it has loaded the code that can load the module. the ole chicken and egge.08:54
sethkDivGradCurl, so, the kernel temporarily uses initrd as its root file system08:55
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garrystorage space for modules needed to boot.08:55
DivGradCurlRight.  Basically, load an artificial os that loads drivers and then loads the real os after detecting it?08:55
sethkDivGradCurl, I'm not sure what you mean by "os" in that sentence.  Remember it is the same kernel being used08:55
DivGradCurlThat is the theory, which besides being really cool also requires some technical expertise (like building and burning a kernel).08:56
sethkDivGradCurl, you have two root file systems, one kernel.08:56
sethkDivGradCurl, so it isn't quite correct to speak of two os08:56
DivGradCurl...08:56
DivGradCurlAhhhh, I hadn't realized that.08:56
DivGradCurlsethk:  No, I had misunderstood not mispoke.08:56
sethkDivGradCurl, if you aren't familiar with it, do a man on chroot08:56
Razor-Xwhere do the libmotif dev files live?08:56
onkarshindeWhere can I find public key of cipherfunk repos?08:57
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srbakeryo08:57
BigKahunadoes the ubuntu live cd have any security utils? can I use it to crack an XP admin password?08:57
srbakeri can't figure out how to get it to boot the live cd on the mac mini08:57
DivGradCurlsethk:  Okay, give me a second.  Booting the other comp into ubuntu.08:57
srbakeri burned the live cd on nero08:57
crimsunRazor-X: lesstif-dev/universe08:57
onkarshindesrbaker: did you burn the right cd?08:57
srbakertrhe ppc livecd08:58
srbakeryes08:58
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onkarshindesrbaker: I don't know how macs work but there must be some sort of bios setting08:58
PuMpErNiCkLeBigKahuna: No.08:58
srbakerno08:58
Razor-Xcrimsun: locally?08:58
srbakeryou're supposed to be able to get it to boot from disc by holding08:58
srbakerC08:58
srbakerdoesn't work here, tho08:58
srbakeropen firmware boot doesn't work either08:58
crimsunRazor-X: packages.ubuntu.com/lesstif-dev08:59
DivGradCurlsethk/garry: Found http://www.kernel.org/, which has kernel archives.08:59
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onkarshindesrbaker: did you check md5sum os iso before burning?08:59
PuMpErNiCkLesrbaker: Can you try burning it using Apple's Disk Utility?08:59
bloodhow do i open /etc/apt/sources.list: ?08:59
srbakeri don't have any blank cds left08:59
PuMpErNiCkLeblood: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:59
bloodthx08:59
onkarshindeblood: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'08:59
dabaRcrimsun: do you know whether ":syn on" for vim works through ssh with putty?08:59
crimsundabaR: yes09:00
onkarshindeWhere can I find public key of cipherfunk repos?09:00
DivGradCurlsethk:  But I do know that my system is booting something involving 2.6.12-9-686.  Is this something unique to Ubuntu or will a generic linux one work?09:00
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Razor-Xcrimsun: after you've downloaded the package libmotif-dev, where should it go to?09:00
mommerhullo. I want to recompile my kernel but want to change only one setting. Is there a way to install the sources for my current kernel (stock ubuntu. Just finished installing)? I see a few "source" packages but none is explicit about that point09:00
dabaRI can not get it to do it, I will check whether it works at all when I get home, if I remember.09:00
garryHmm, can't reply, The kernels are in the archive, there is a key, you click on C to see change log, F to download kernel.09:00
sethkDivGradCurl, oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were looking for that, I would have told you.09:00
odatblood, are you just trying to add some more repos?09:00
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sethkDivGradCurl, completely generic to linux09:00
dabaRcrimsun: how about with screen?09:00
PuMpErNiCkLemommer: What setting?  It's possible it can be changed without recompiling.09:00
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DivGradCurlsethk:  Right, so what I need to do is get the kernel from where it was installed on my external, make some tweaks, recompile it, and then put it on a floppy?09:01
crimsunRazor-X: you'd dpkg -i [..] , and it'd be in /usr/X11R6/include/Xm09:01
dabaRcrimsun: my os X terminal can do colors with os X vim. But when I use ssh to my Ubuntu, it does not work, I will see when I get home.09:01
ksmurfanyone running dapper that has issues with gnome panel control?09:01
crimsundabaR: works fine with screen, too (depends on $TERM)09:01
mommerPuMpErNiCkLe: there is some frequency setting - I keep forgetting the name - that has to be lowered. Otherwise my laptop keeps making an anoying high-pitched sound.09:01
mommerI think that gets compiled into the image09:01
dabaR$TERM is screen in screen. xterm in ssh09:02
sethkDivGradCurl, you can put it on your machines mbr, and have it dual boot (if that is windows), which is probably easier than making a floppy09:02
garryOh ouch, latest kernels don't support booting from floppy. I thought ye might be burning to cd.09:02
sethkDivGradCurl, I would use a bootable cd, if possible, instead of a floppy09:02
DivGradCurlOkay, going to leave this logged on here for when I reboot the Ubuntu box and use 'StokesTheorem' there temporarily.09:02
Razor-Xcrimsun: ah, thanks09:02
PuMpErNiCkLemommer: Uh, sure.... hang on a second...09:02
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sethkgarry, I've done it to cd for years.  Didn't  know that floppy booting isn't there.09:02
dabaRcrimsun: how come text goes blank in evince a lot of the time with pdf files, do you know anything about that?09:02
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dabaRcrimsun: I use openbox, won't matter likely.09:03
Mr_Molezcan any 1 tell me how to install the kernel source for breezy ?09:03
onkarshindegarry: I don't think floppy booting is kernel specific09:03
crimsundabaR: I don't; file a bug in bugzilla if it's reproducible09:03
mommerPuMpErNiCkLe: timer freequency, I think.09:03
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garrysethk yeah, nice. :) I usually just edit my lilo and rename my old kernels and system map and other things so that the old kernel is saved.09:03
dabaRcrimsun: oh it is. I may do that, I am a lazy bug reporter, it kinda works, when you click on the blank area.09:04
Mr_MolezPuMpErNiCkLe: hey ur that bzflag spammer :D09:04
StokesTheoremOkay, back.09:04
sethkgarry, I still have a 2.4 kernel saved.  :)09:04
dabaRMr_Molez: aptitude search kernel-source09:04
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garryonkarshine yep, I think a lilo on a floppy works, just need to still have kernel on the HD unless I misread the info, which would not be a surprise if I did.09:05
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StokesTheoremsethk:  I need it to be generic so I can use it wherever I may roam, and although I much prefer a cd, I should probably use a floppy until I have it down better so I don't burn through twenty cds.09:05
PuMpErNiCkLeMr_Molez: No, that was some guy pretending to be me.09:05
sethkStokesTheorem, cd-rw09:05
Mr_MolezdabaR: ive done a search but it only comes up with 2.4* and 2.6.10/11 .. but breezy has 2.6.1209:05
PuMpErNiCkLemommer: sudo apt-get install kernel-source09:05
Mr_MolezPuMpErNiCkLe: oh ok09:05
Razor-Xcrimsun: where does libfreetype6 live?09:06
StokesTheoremsethk:  One sec...  because the only thing harder then what I'm trying to do is digging through piles of CDs!  This may take a minute!09:06
crimsunRazor-X: dpkg -L libfreetype609:06
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Razor-Xcrimsun: ok09:06
sethkStokesTheorem, just a suggestion, because I hate floppies.  :)09:06
Razor-Xcrimsun: ah, many thanks09:06
vultairequestion: gnome just spontaneously restarted on me.  Is there any way I can check a log to see what might have caused this?09:07
sethkStokesTheorem, but remember older machines may not be able to boot from cd09:07
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garryYeah, floppies are often like IOU's written on ice cubes.09:07
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garryin summertime09:07
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dabaRwith invisible ink09:07
garryhehe09:07
garryblack ink on black paper.09:08
fujisanwhahahaahahaha09:08
fujisansuch humor whahahaahahahaha09:08
fujisanstop gary please09:08
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fujisan:(09:08
PuMpErNiCkLevultaire: sudo gnome-system-log09:08
garryhehe09:08
PuMpErNiCkLevultaire: Or from the CLI, check /var/log for anything that seems relevant.09:08
mommerPuMpErNiCkLe: it asks me for a version. uname -a returns 2.6.12-10, but this does not appear among the options I get from apt-get09:09
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tonyyarussoHow can I put spaces between entries in a Grub menu?09:09
cozmorning all09:09
fujisangarry they should make a jarhead type of flick starring nerds, geek, losers, etnic monorities :)09:09
fujisanMinorities*09:09
mommerPuMpErNiCkLe: or rather. It tells me that I should specify a version.09:09
StokesTheoremI've seen more computers these days that don't have floppy drives than don't have CD booting.  But I agree, floppys are a huge pain.09:09
garryfujisan hehe, yep.09:09
vultairepumpernickle: thx09:09
cozhappy one week into the new year09:10
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fujisanI had a black girl in my class who was in a wheelchair09:10
ajmitch!offtopic09:10
ubotuit has been said that offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!09:10
fujisanso the teacher said once to her you have it all: YOur a female , handicapt and black09:10
fujisan:P09:10
ajmitchfujisan: take it elsewhere09:10
fujisanajmitch:  i will soz09:11
fujisanhappy new year ajmitch09:11
StokesTheoremHoly...  I found a CD RW.  God is on my side tonight!  Albeit a bide scratched...09:11
fujisanlol09:12
cozWell I assume we are all "sudo experts" now, right?09:12
StokesTheoremsethk:  I assume there is an easy way to delete and burn things on this sucker in gnome.09:12
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PuMpErNiCkLemommer: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1209:12
fujisandidnt god gave us freewill?09:12
garryUbuntu is a great sudo tutorial09:12
Linuturkwhat's the best way to see what inf file is associated with a particular device?09:12
StokesTheoremsethk:  Okay, now what files do I need to dig out for my kernel.09:12
fujisanajmitch:  ubunto-offtopic is empty09:13
StokesTheoremfujisan:  Yes, he gave us all free will.  But tonight he also gave me a CD RW.09:13
sethkStokesTheorem, the kernel source archive.09:13
fujisanthis is offtopic hour09:13
fujisan:)09:13
fujisanlike happy hour09:13
fujisan:))09:13
ajmitchno it's not09:13
fujisani'm joking geeez09:13
mommerPuMpErNiCkLe: hey thanks. That is there.09:13
fujisanlol09:13
PuMpErNiCkLemommer: np... took me awhile to find it :)09:14
StokesTheoremsethk:  Is that somewhere online, or simply a file on the external's root partition.09:14
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PuMpErNiCkLewtf, this is wacked...09:14
sethkthe kernel?  its a tarball from kernel.org (or from ubuntu)09:14
fujisani'm having a problem with the timeslice kernel takes about 3 jiffy's too long,,,09:14
mommeryeah, it seems it is a stock kernel.09:15
PuMpErNiCkLeI open the gnome logfile viewer from it's place in the applications menu... not only does it take like half a minute to open, which is crazy slow on my computer, but it opens one virtual workspace to the right. o_O09:15
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mommerdoes ubuntu keep its kernel tree secret? :-)09:15
fujisanlol09:15
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fujisanA jiffy is an actual timeunit mommer09:15
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fujisan1 jiffy = 1/100th of a second09:16
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ajmitchmommer: not secret at all09:16
garryThe latest kernel 2.5.15 is a big changes, need to upgrade udev, and it does away with devfs and you have to compile the udev if you are unlucky as I was and could not find a precompiled udev.09:17
StokesTheoremsethk: will /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686 work?09:17
mommerajmitch: i presume so. It would be nice if oune could install the very same sources that were used to build the current kernel.09:17
fujisani don't get why they won't use the source code09:17
ajmitchmommer: you can, easily09:17
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Mr_Molezhow do i get mp3 support for ubuntu ?09:17
mommerajmitch: aha - what is the trick?09:17
ajmitchlinux-source, or apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`09:18
dabaR!mp309:18
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:18
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ajmitchif you're trying to build modules, getting the current linux-headers is usually enough09:18
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garryubotu is such a helpull widdle bot. :)09:19
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, garry09:19
christian_I'm trying to put up a server. I've got apache2 installed. But which HTTP server should I choose?09:19
StokesTheoremsethk:  Also, the only halfway-run install on the external uses 2.6.12-9-686, while I believe Breezy upgraded to 2.6.12-10-686.  Should I download the newer, or go with the older until I upgrade on my external?09:19
fujisanThere is a story....09:19
mommerajmitch: linux-source is the stock kernel. I'll try the second one....09:19
fujisanabout an alien that lands on Earth. The alien wishes to return home with the knowledge of all books on Earth. Unfortunately, his spaceship is so small that he can only take with him a small stick. So what he does is the following.09:19
sethkStokesTheorem, I wouldn't try to figure this out and change kernel versions at the same time.09:19
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dabaR+b09:19
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trappistfujisan: wtf does that have to do with ubuntu09:19
sethkStokesTheorem, get it working, then worry about updating the kernel.09:19
fujisanFirst, he digitizes each book. This translates each book in one huge, but finite, number. Then he attaches all these numbers to each other, which results in an enormous, but still finite, number. In front of this number he places "0.", turning it into a fraction between zero and one.09:19
JnxI'm trying to put up a server. I've got apache2 installed. But which HTTP server should I choose?09:20
ajmitchfujisan: I told you about off-topic stuff09:20
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cozfujisan as much as i appreciate ok jokes I think ajmitch is right09:20
cozit is one thing to get banned for being right then you have the badge of honor but not for telling jokes09:20
steveahey, i'm trying to install a wireless usb lan card, and in the readme it says i might not need to build my kernal manually... i think i do though09:21
JnxDoes anyone in here know anything about HTTP servers??09:21
CanYouHelpMePlzfujisan: shut the fuck up09:21
poningrufujisan: #ubuntu-offtopic09:21
mommer"dpkg-source: command not found". Hm...09:21
cozLight heartedness is great and there is a place for it here09:21
cozbut...09:21
steveait says check /usr/src/therunningkernal/.config to see if you can but i don't have anything under /src/09:21
Jnxcoz, have any knowledge about HTTP servers?09:21
trappiststevea: look in /boot for the config of the running kernel09:22
garryAt lease I note we are not humor impaired. :)09:22
cozJnx unfortunately no that is my nephews arena09:22
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trappiststevea: /boot/config-$(uname -r)09:22
cozfujisan what Os are you running?09:22
CanYouHelpMePlzhe was banned09:22
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cozunbann him09:22
steveatrappist - is that exactly what i'm meant to type? sorry i'm new to linux09:22
mommerinstall dpkg-dev, of course.09:22
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crimsunhe's not banned; he's muzzled for continually spamming the channel with off-topic cruft.09:23
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Jnxcoz, do you know of a way I can shut down my port: 80 procccesses? Because, when I try to run my HTTPD, I get: Could not listen on port 80.  dhttpd/1.02a failed to start09:23
trappiststevea: it's not a command, but if you for example put "vi /boot/config-$(uname -r)" that would open the config09:23
steveaoh ok09:23
dabaRcruft...09:23
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Kr0ntabexit09:24
cozJnx sorry guy as i said networking is my nephews arena i am strictly residential/coporate without netowrking we work together09:24
Kr0ntaboops09:24
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Jnxcoz, ok. Thanks anyway09:24
cozSorry jnx09:24
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cozI think i mentioned this here the other night09:25
sethkJnx, you can find the processes with lsof or netstat -p, if that's what you mean09:25
garryI seem to remember something about mysql using port 80 but it was a sleepy night, could have bene another app entirely.09:25
cozbut I found that ubuntu is extra sensitive to a dirty or previously occupied hard drive09:25
Jnxsethk, thanks. I'll try that09:25
coztested it out again three times this evening with the same results09:25
PuMpErNiCkLehm09:26
StokesTheoremsethk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 is what I'm looking for, yes?09:26
mommercoz: indeed.09:27
cozI ususally use seagate's disk utility to low format the hard drive before any install however09:27
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sethkStokesTheorem, I think the source has a different name, and you need the source09:27
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cozsomeone on the ubuntuforums channel suggested an app named "Dban"09:27
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Mr_Molezi also need that kernel source09:27
cozI tried it and although it appears to be a wiping utility it does, at the end of the cycle write zeros to the drive09:27
Jnxsethk, do you happen to have an idea why this happens when I write apache2 in terminal. Error: netstat -p09:28
Jnxoops09:28
Jnxsethk, do you happen to have an idea why this happens when I write apache2 in terminal. Error: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8009:28
Jnxno listening sockets available, shutting down09:28
cozI also am guessing that many problems , quoted on this channel, may be avaoided with a utility like thi before the install09:28
coz though I would give some small results of the test09:28
AussieExilehey i try to load the unbuntu live cd and it says it cant load my graphics driver, i ave the ATI 200m09:28
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AussieExileunbuntu**09:28
woodwizzlecan you have multiple homepages in epiphany like you can in firefox09:28
AussieExileubuntu*****09:28
StokesTheoremsethk: This, then?: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/linux-source-2.6.1209:29
sethkJnx, if you are running as an ordinary user, you can't access ports < 102409:29
sethkStokesTheorem, yes, I believe so09:29
Jnxsethk, I used sudo.09:29
steveacan someone go through the installation process of this hardware with me please? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59001&package_id=158645&release_id=34398309:29
tonyyarussoHow can I put spaces between entries in a Grub menu?09:29
steveai'm new to linux/ubuntu and i have no idea how to install it09:29
sethkJnx, perhaps another process still have the port?09:29
Jnxhm, I can't really think of which process would be using the :8009:30
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Jnxsethk,  have any idea of which process might use it?09:30
Mr_Molezahh apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 works :D09:30
sethkJnx, do this:   lsof -i :8009:30
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StokesTheoremsethk: linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz vs linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23.diff.gz09:31
tonyyarussoI'll take a look stevea.09:31
JnxDidn't get any feedback.09:31
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Jnxsethk, Didn't get any feedback.09:31
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sethkStokesTheorem, the diff is for the case where you are changing kernel versions, already have source, and only want files that have changed09:31
Nikusansamba problem, when I try "/etc/init.d/samba start09:31
Nikusan" I get "/etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 10178 Aborted .... [fail] ". It was working fine yesterday and as far as I can tell nothing has changed. Any ideas?09:31
steveatonyyarusso: thanks09:31
tonyyarussostevea, You've downloaded the .tar.bz2?09:31
sethkStokesTheorem, you want all of it.09:31
steveayep09:31
Jnxsethk, the command didn't respond. Just prompting for another command. Just as there wasn't any processes using :8009:32
steveai'm actually on my laptop at the moment and i'm trying to install that lan card on my pc09:32
mommerMr_Molez: that's the source from kernel.org, not the source of the kernel you are running (proably)09:32
hydroksydewill I get much better performance from upgrading from a Celeron 333 to a Pentium II 350?09:32
cozhydroksyde YESS09:32
redhookare there i686 packages? all this i386 stuff is slow09:32
sethkJnx, then that's not the reason.  Hmm, what's the exact error again?09:32
PuMpErNiCkLehydroksyde: kinda mebbe not so much depending on what you do09:32
hydroksydehmmm09:33
Jnxsethk, (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8009:33
Jnxno listening sockets available, shutting down09:33
Mr_Molezmommer: well spotted :P09:33
PuMpErNiCkLehydroksyde: Celerons apparently overclock better than Pentiums, so you can possibly just overclock it to compensate for teh difference.09:33
cozhydroksyde Celerons are crap processors andy real pentium will give better performance09:33
hydroksydePuMpErNiCkLe, i'd rather not... I'm selling this machine09:33
redhookPuMpErNiCkLe: no you cant, celerons have much less l2 and and a slower fsb09:33
sethkJnx, If you do netstat -na | grep 80       you get nothing?09:33
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cozhydroksyde better yet go with an amd09:34
StokesTheoremsethk:  Obtained!09:34
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mommerMr_Molez: it seems that what works is: cd to /usr/src (as root) and do "dpkg source linux-image-`uname -r`"09:34
Diablo69well good new PuMpErNiCkLe09:34
tonyyarussostevea, Okay, you're going to open up a terminal, and cd to the directory you downloaded that to.09:34
hydroksydecoz, K6s aren't as fast as P-IIs09:34
Diablo69I took out my ati radion card and it will get past hotplug09:35
Diablo69BUT09:35
cozwrong09:35
Diablo69it still says x server is configured wrong09:35
Stinkywrixneed some help. basically I downloaded the world of warcraft trial off of fileplanet, but I can't get it to open with either winzip or the regular archive manager.  It gives me an error with09:35
cozamd K6 and K7 are much snappier that pentiums09:35
Mr_Molezmommer: yeh i was just reading the forums and did that, thanks :)09:35
garryprobaly have to reconfigure it now.09:35
Stinkywrix[/home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip] 09:35
Stinkywrix  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not09:35
Stinkywrix  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the09:35
Stinkywrix  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on09:35
Stinkywrix  the last disk(s) of this archive.09:35
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steveatonyyarusso: done09:35
Stinkywrixunzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip or09:35
Stinkywrix        /home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip.zip, and cannot find /home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip.ZIP, period.09:35
cozI am running k7 right now on this machine09:35
Jnxsethk, I get some stuff. unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11880    private/relay09:35
AussieExilei need help with the Live version of ubuntu09:35
Jnxunix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     13680    /tmp/orbit-xxx/linc-1ff4-0-4b857470b333f09:35
Jnxunix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     13480    /tmp/orbit-xxx/linc-1ff4-0-4b857470b333f09:35
Jnxunix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     13180    /tmp/orbit-xxx/linc-1ffb-0-7deaba939e3a109:35
Jnxunix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     12980    /tmp/.esd/socket09:35
tonyyarussostevea, Then, tar -jxvf atmel*09:35
Diablo69howw would I reconfigure it gary09:35
PuMpErNiCkLeredhook: That's true, but they're crazy overclockable.09:35
Diablo69just reinstall it?09:35
redhookPuMpErNiCkLe: good way to fry a system too09:35
Stinkywrixanyone know whats up?09:35
cozit is a 600mgz I believe and it wipped the pentium 1 gigherz processor rather celeron09:35
sethkJnx, no, it has to be in the external section and look like this:      0.0.0.0:8009:36
PuMpErNiCkLeredhook: Cheap way to upgrade it if you keep it within reasonable limits. :)09:36
sethkJnx, assuming it is listening for all connections.  just look for :8009:36
garryI forget, someone help please use folks with poor memory?09:36
PuMpErNiCkLehttp://arstechnica.com/paedia/celeron_oc_faq.html09:36
jinrohHow do you enable backports?09:36
redhookPuMpErNiCkLe: yeah, and then you start wondering where all these stability problems come from after a while09:36
cozjinrogh the gui way is to go into add applications09:36
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Jnxsethk, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN <- that was on the top of what I just pasted.09:36
tonyyarussostevea, That will create a directory with all of the files that were in the zipped archive.09:37
sethkJnx, ok, there's your problem.  Now use -p to find out what process that is09:37
Mez!tell jinroh about backports09:37
Diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: should I reinstall ubuntu now, or try to reconfigure x server, cuz I have no clue on how to reconfigure x server09:37
garryI think the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file tells you how to reconfigure.09:37
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cozjinrogh then settirepositories09:37
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Have you managed to get root access yet?09:37
cozsettings repositories09:37
Diablo69uhh not sure09:37
Diablo69I haven't tried that09:37
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StokesTheoremsethk/garry: Okay, so I have a bunch of files.  And now?09:37
cozright click on each click add then tick the blank check boxes09:38
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Because if you can't get root access, you can't really reconfigure anything...09:38
tonyyarussostevea, cd into that new directory.09:38
sethkStokesTheorem, now you do make xconfig09:38
steveaok09:38
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steveadone09:38
Jnxsethk, I'm sorry. But I haven't used linux for too long. Anyways,  netstat -p | procces name? :P09:39
sethkJnx, netstat -nap | grep :8009:39
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garryStokesTheorem read README and documentation/changes09:39
redhookis there a way to update my system to i686 binaries? this i386 stuff is real slow09:39
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garryYes, red, but its tedious, ye have to get the source and recompile. A bit of a pain.09:40
steveatonyyarusso: what next?09:40
trappistredhook: a) not really, there's not.  b) i686 won't be noticeably faster than i386 for most things.09:40
tonyyarussostevea, Now it looks like this doesn't have a configure in the main directory, so we'll try something which will probably work, and if not I have a plan B.09:40
redhooktrappist: wanna bet?09:40
steveaoh ok09:40
StokesTheoremsethk/garry:  Okay, reading now...09:40
redhookgarry: ok, just going to put gentoo back on then09:40
tonyyarussostevea, So, in that directory, do sudo make && make install09:40
trappistredhook: yes.09:40
Diablo69holy shit09:40
Diablo69I see xorg09:40
Diablo69:)09:40
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69:  :O09:40
PuMpErNiCkLeWhat happened?09:41
steveaargh09:41
garryredhook ok, good luck. I hear gentoo is nice.09:41
Diablo69it was my fucking graphics card09:41
redhooktrappist: I can assure you that i686 compiled binaries run much faster on i686 then i386 binaries09:41
steveatonyyarusso: it says i must have root privledges to install the driver09:41
trappistredhook: mkay09:41
tonyyarussostevea: Did you put the sudo in front?09:41
redhookgarry: it is, I just installed ubuntu because I heard it was nice... its a disappointment though09:41
garrynods.09:41
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: lol09:41
redhookno real control, cheap hacked up debian09:41
steveatonyyarusso: yep09:41
Diablo69something popped up about updates09:41
Diablo69what should I do?09:41
Diablo69or what is it09:41
trappistredhook: are you just here to troll, or do you have another question?09:42
steveai typed "sudo make && make install"09:42
tonyyarussostevea: Try sudo make && sudo make install09:42
Jnxsethk, thanks alot :) I found the procces and killed it. Apache is able to start now.09:42
redhooktrappist: if I was here to troll I'd be talking in leet09:42
steveatonyyarusso: ok it worked09:42
cozredhook what is the problem?09:42
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tonyyarussostevea, Any output at all?09:42
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: That'll be security updates since the official release... you'll probably want to install them, if you have a decent net connection.09:42
Diablo69ok09:42
Diablo69can I change the wm09:42
steveatonyyarusso: well actually it says usb directory already exists, pci directory already exists, same as bin and xllr6 bin09:42
Diablo69to enlightment?09:42
steveatonyyarusso: then it says run #deopmod -aeq after installation09:43
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Probably - I think they have enlightenment in the repositories.09:43
tonyyarussostevea, Hmm, not sure what the implications of that are.  I'd do what it tells you though.09:43
steveadepmod sorry09:43
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Never tried it myself, though, so I can't advise you there.09:43
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steveatonyyarusso: how do i run that?09:43
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Diablo69what would it be under?09:43
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tonyyarussostevea, Now, some things have been developed to be easier than their documentation claims, so if that gives you any grief, you can always go back and do the smart, but not so fun thing of reading the README for further instruction (in that same directory).09:44
steveatonyyarusso: oh never mind i got it... but it says permission deined09:44
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: it's in the 'universe' repository - just search for 'enlightenment' in synaptic09:44
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tonyyarussostevea: The # indicates that the command needs to be run as root (normal users are $), so that too will need sudo in front.09:44
steveatonyyarusso: yeah i tried reading the readme before but it said all this stuff about need a kernal source09:44
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: Then 'mark for installation' and then pray it works :D09:45
Diablo69id on't see a universe09:45
tonyyarussostevea, Yeah, doesn't look pretty, so if this works be thankful.09:45
steveatonyyarusso: so i type "sudo depmod -aeq" ?09:45
mommerthe .config seems to have been kept . /boot in the past. Is this no longer the case or didi something go worng in the install?09:45
tonyyarussostevea: Yep.09:45
steveatonyyarusso: ok i did that but... nothing happened..09:45
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PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/673409:46
tonyyarussostevea: Generally things only tell you if they don't work, so take that as a good sign until you find out otherwise.  In this case, testing whether your hardware works.  If not, read the instructions.09:46
mommerdarn. It lacks a dot of course09:46
steveatonyyarusso: so basically.. it should be installed?09:47
tonyyarussostevea: We hope so anyway, yes.09:47
tonyyarussostevea: So that's the basic process for installing things from source in a tar archive.  Some things to note though:09:47
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steveatonyyarusso: ah ok. Well is there any application for setting up the wireless lan card? I have wep encryption on my WLAN09:48
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mommerHm... This is not working.09:48
tonyyarussostevea: The j in your tar command is for when it's a .tar.bz2.  If it's .tar.gz, use tar zxvf, with a z instead.09:48
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steveatonyyarusso: ah ok09:49
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tonyyarussostevea: That'll depend on the card, and is beyond the scope of my knowledge.  My card worked out of the box, I just had to put in some info under System > Administration > Networking.09:49
Diablo69trying now wish me luck :)09:49
steveaah ok09:49
steveathanks09:49
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tonyyarussostevea: Also, if the unpacked directory contains an executable file named configure, install, or any such thing, you'll add a step.09:50
garryTo save old kernels, rename your vmlinuz, your system.map to filename-2.6.Y.R where Y is minor number, and Y is release candidate, and change lilo accordingly, then your old kernels are saved and still bootable. I don'tl know about how to rename the initrd.gz09:50
tonyyarussostevea: For those, most commonly you'll see configure, in which case you do sudo ./configure && make && make install09:50
foampeaceya hear on the news they said windows cant handle web code cause it isnt code lol what the hell is it then :o09:50
PuMpErNiCkLeDiablo69: break a leg :)09:50
steveai see09:51
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tonyyarussostevea, The ./ tells it to run a command that is a script in the current directory, rather than looking in the normal command tree.09:51
garrya virus?09:51
PuMpErNiCkLeOkay, I'm going to sleep now.09:51
tonyyarussostevea, That's all I've got, so good luck!09:51
PuMpErNiCkLePeace out everyone!09:51
Diablo69uhh I marked it and isntalled tit09:51
garryyeah, same here, bushed. Gook luck to ye all.09:51
Diablo69it*09:51
steveatonyyarusso: thank you very much :)09:51
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Diablo69then it froze the package manager did at least09:51
jinrohcoz:  I went to Add Applications/Settings/Repositories but I didn't see where you add backports.  I click the Add button and checked community supported option.  Is this how you add backports?09:51
tonyyarussostevea, np.09:51
Diablo69do I have to restart x for the new theme?09:52
Mez!backports09:52
ubotuI heard backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports09:52
garryoh for the kernel compiles at least for nvidia ye will need to reinstall/recompile the nvidia driver.09:52
foampeace~note. windows is a virus. keep handing out your ubuntu cd to infected users09:53
Jnxgarry, do you have any knowledge on Apache?09:53
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StinkywrixI love ubuntu, its great. ^_^09:53
tonyyarussofoampeace, Am doing!  Kind of hard to convince them though.  So I just wait until they next time they talk about their computer crashing, and cackle.09:53
Madpilotfoampeace: there's a sig I see sometimes: "Play a Windows CD backward, and it plays satanic messages - but that's nothing, because if you run it forwards it installs Windows..." :P09:53
SweetestSavageMe too Stinkywrix, it is great =)09:53
garryjnx none really. I hear its named as a patchey web server, but it seems quite popular.09:53
foampeacedont get to close to windows users, use a suit and a reach stick if you have to get the ubuntu cd to them09:54
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SweetestSavageStinkywrix, what were you using before Ubuntu?09:54
Diablo69when I choose a new wm, will it automatically put it on, or will I have to shut x down and start x again for the new wm to come up09:54
Jnxgarry, hehe, ok. Thanks anyway09:54
StinkywrixI was using windows. >_>09:54
tonyyarussoMadpilot, I always get a kick out of that one.09:54
SweetestSavageStinkywrix, me too, for 10 years ;)09:54
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foampeacea reach stick with a dinosaur let them know you mean business lol09:54
alex__is it possible to adcd a protocol afp to the connect to server utility ?09:54
SweetestSavageStinkywrix, how long ago did you switch?09:55
garryjnx welcome09:55
StinkywrixI've been using Ubuntu for about a month.09:55
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SweetestSavageStinkywrix, ahh, I see. I made the transition a couple of weeks ago.09:55
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StokesTheorem(away for a bit)09:56
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Diablo69whats the difference b/w complete removal and removal?09:58
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Stinkywrixcomplete removal gets rid of everything related to the file. removal only gets rid of the important stuff.09:59
tonyyarussoI've run through the whole gamut of typewriters, a Commodore 64 (not much OS to speak of really), DOS (two computers, neither with a hard drive, the first running 5 1/4 inch floppies, the second the newer diskettes), Macintosh (before it was pretty and modern), and Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, and XP, and now Ubuntu, as of last August.  And I'm not even 20 yet.  And yes, I have actually done work on all of the above, and09:59
tonyyarussoturned it in for school.  At least now my family has caught up on the technology front.09:59
MadpilotDiablo69: complete removal nukes the config files and such too09:59
marcsterhi. i have an ubuntu installation on a partition of an 80G hard disk. i would like to transfer this ubuntu installation on a spare 40G hard disk that i have. can anyone please give me an idea on how to accomplish that without reinstalling the entire os?09:59
Diablo69ohh ok09:59
drakeoutlawHi all, can someone tell why playing wma files slows the frame rate to a crawl sometimes. (I've done stuff suggested by the Getting Started Guide)09:59
Stinkywrixow, 3.1? yikes.09:59
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drakeoutlawmarcster: look up and learn to use parted. I think it can copy partitions10:00
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Diablo69then I just click apply right?10:00
marcsteralright. thanks10:00
tonyyarussoStinkywrix, The computer with 3.1 is still running, btw.10:00
MadpilotDiablo69: yes10:00
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SweetestSavagetonyyarusso, Windows.. 3.1?10:00
Diablo69I am trying to install a different wm10:00
Diablo69does it work automaticaly10:01
tonyyarussoSweetestSavage, Yep.  My dad's old laptop.10:01
Diablo69cuz it didn't change anything10:01
SweetestSavagetonyyarusso, that's crazy. How long has it been running for?10:01
tonyyarussoAs is the Commodore, Mac, and W98 machine.10:01
mommerDiablo69: you have to select it as session in the login window10:01
Diablo69uhh how do I find that?10:01
mommerthe login window has a few buttons. Press on them in turn :-)10:02
mommeruntil you find it10:02
Diablo69I haven't seena login window10:02
SweetestSavageI started computers a long time ago, too. I'm only 17.. I've seen DOS, the old Mac OS.. of course, not as old as going to the floppies =)10:02
tonyyarussoSweetestSavage, Erm, not exactly sure, but it must be at least since 1994, since W95 wasn't out yet.10:02
mommerDiablo69: how do you login?10:02
SweetestSavagetonyyarusso, haha, nice. Still usable, I guess?10:02
Diablo69cmd prompt10:02
tonyyarussoSweetestSavage, Oh yeah.  My sister uses it for her schoolwork.10:02
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andromorphHi, can anyone suggest how to disable 'rivafb' at boot ?10:03
SweetestSavagetonyyarusso, I can't believe somebody would use that old thing at all, wow.10:03
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mommerDiablo69: ah i see. Then you'll have to edit the .xinitrc, or install kdm, I think.10:03
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drakeoutlawCan you imagine how blazingly FAST win3.1 would be on today's computer10:04
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SweetestSavagedrakeoutlaw, I've seen it, actually..10:04
SweetestSavagedrakeoutlaw, it crashed in 30 minutes10:04
tonyyarussoSweetestSavage, I've spent many an hour playing Frogger on the Commodore, which is another decade older than that.  I must say, what passes for a word processor on that thing is a beast to use though.  You have to type in commands for all of your formatting.  (My mom did her thesis on the thing.)10:04
drakeoutlawlol10:04
Linuturkit's official. My wireless works with ndiswrapper, but the cd doesn't come with the ndiswrapper-utils. WHY??10:04
SweetestSavagetonyyarusso, ah, hah, nice. =)10:05
twitchsigh ive given up on synaptic because i have an external harddrive that im using a live cd with10:05
mommertonyyarusso: wordstar?10:05
twitchso could i just get some one to send me and unzipped gftp front end for ubuntu10:05
mommertonyyarusso: and have you ever heard of latex?:-)10:05
twitchover aim or somthing10:05
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tonyyarussomommer, I don't think that's it...  something script maybe?  It's been a while.10:05
tonyyarussomommer, No, not that one.10:05
tonyyarussoI wonder what a functional Commodore 64 could fetch on eBay in a few years?10:06
tonyyarussoWith program disks.10:06
LinuturkI'll give you my kidney's10:07
Linuturkboth of them10:07
twitchcan anyone send me an unzipped gftp app10:07
Diablo69so in .xinitrc I would type "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox"10:07
twitchwith everything in it10:07
Madpilottwitch: why isn't Synaptic working?10:07
twitchlive cd10:07
tonyyarussoLinuturk, Will paypal accept that?10:07
jenda-zZzWhat was that thing one had to do to be able to play m4a's in xmms again?10:07
jenda-zZzlol...10:07
Linuturktonyyarusso, they are rolling out organ support in a few months10:07
drakeoutlawLinuturk: If you would seriously like to get your hands on a comodore 64 I might have one for you10:07
Madpilottwitch: Synaptic should work on a LiveCD, it just won't save any data after you shut everything down...10:07
tonyyarussoLinuturk, Good to know.10:07
twitchunless you could show me how to make it write the repositories and packages to my HD10:08
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Linuturkdrakeoutlaw, got a price?10:08
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ircim wrestling the tv card lion anyone configed one in ubuntu?10:08
twitchwhere would it save gftp10:08
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rudi_jjjjjjjjjow10:09
drakeoutlawLinuturk: let me locate the machine. It will take a couple of days10:09
Madpilottwitch: when you're running the LiveCD, everything is just in RAM, that's why it's slow - unless you've mounted a harddrive10:09
twitchi have an external usb hard drive10:09
Linuturkdrakeoutlaw, pm?10:09
twitchim using that as a big memory card i guess...10:10
Diablo69oy vey, I didn't know if I took away gnome, the package manager would be gone10:10
Diablo69thats fuckedu p10:10
ircany tv video config hints available10:10
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY10:10
Madpilottwitch: OK - but unless you've told Ubuntu to mount it, I don't think it's being used right now...10:10
twitchit auto mounts10:10
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Linuturkdrakeoutlaw, i got an email address for you on pm10:10
irci might go play panzer more unless someone has done it10:10
irci have gotten no where with it10:10
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B_166-ER-Xi keep putting some gdesklets network apps on my desktop, but ...they keep disapearing by there own after a few minutes...the other Gdesklets apps have no problem..10:11
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GTroyhey guys, can anyone tell me how to use switches in terminal?10:11
Diablo69so will I be able to have the package manger if I take off the current gnome wm10:11
Diablo69?10:11
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chmod775does anyone know how to install libcomposite10:14
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chmod775for gdesklets10:14
chmod775I guess it's not there in the reposittory10:14
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ajmitchchmod775: libxcomposite110:15
chmod775thanks dude10:16
ajmitchand the corresponding libxcomposite-dev10:16
twitchcan anyone send me a gftp folder that is unzipped?10:16
ajmitch(if you're needing to build something with it)10:16
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JohnFluxSeveas: ping10:16
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chmod775ajmitch, are u sure10:16
JohnFluxhey all10:17
chmod775I just did a apt-get install libxcomposite10:17
chmod775nope it's not there10:17
ajmitchchmod775: I said libxcomposite110:17
JohnFluxI'm trying to install libdvdcss and w32codecs etc.  I added seveas's repos to be sources, but it says I missing his pgp key10:17
chmod775nope ajmitch10:18
chmod775I did libxcomposite110:18
chmod775nope10:18
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linuxboychmod775: nice nick10:18
chmod775thanks dude10:18
JohnFluxdoes anyone know another good place to get libdvdcss etc please?10:19
ajmitchchmod775: and I can see that it's been in since hoary10:19
chmod775ok10:19
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chmod775ajmitch, can u suggest something10:19
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ompaulJohnFlux, just point your web browser at Seveas's site and pull10:19
ajmitchchmod775: pastebin, show me what you're typing & the result, please10:19
chmod775sure10:19
chmod775hang on10:19
JohnFluxompaul: download the packages individually manually?10:20
ompaulJohnFlux, why not10:20
chmod775!pastebin10:20
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:20
tonyyarussoDoes someone know how to make a metapackage?10:20
drakeoutlawLinuturk: mail to you is bouncing back10:20
Diablo69hey all...I am trying to install gyache enhanced, what package would I need?10:20
ompaulJohnFlux, it is the same end result when they are down dpkg -i foo.deb10:20
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chmod775http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/673510:21
drakeoutlawLinuturk: sorry spelling error10:21
ompaulJohnFlux, sorry >>sudo dpkg -i foo.deb<< - me not coffeed yet10:21
chmod775here u go ajmitch10:21
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JohnFluxompaul: thanks10:21
ompaulJohnFlux, enjoy10:21
chmod775u there ajmitch10:22
chmod775?10:22
ajmitchchmod775: yes, have some patience10:22
chmod775sorry ajmitch10:22
ajmitchchmod775: you are using breezy?10:23
chmod775yes10:23
chmod775breezy10:23
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ajmitchstrange, I see it on the mirrors, and in the package lists10:23
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chmod775shall i paste my sources.list on pastebin10:23
ajmitchhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libxcomposite110:23
ajmitchsure10:23
chmod775let me check out the link u sent me first10:24
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ompaulchmod775, you _must_ have something wrong with your repo sources - that lib is in main10:24
chmod775ok10:25
chmod775http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/673610:25
chmod775here is my sources.list file10:25
ompaulchmod775, any result from this >>> apt-cache policy libxcomposite1 <<<10:25
Linuturkdrakeoutlaw, you get it?10:25
chmod775no ompaul nothing at all10:25
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ajmitchchmod775: your sources.list is wrong10:25
chmod775oh10:25
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chmod775what should I change to make it correct10:26
ajmitchchmod775: uncomment line 4, 'deb http://us..'10:26
chmod775deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted10:26
ompaulchmod775, and while your at it us a  # to comment out the CDrom line10:26
ajmitchchmod775: not that line10:26
drakeoutlawLinuturk: pls chk your email10:26
ajmitchthe line above, with deb, not deb-src10:27
ajmitchremove the #10:27
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Linuturkdrakeoutlaw, got it. Just keep me informed10:27
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chmod775ajmitch, I am confused ompaul is telling something else10:27
drakeoutlawLinuturk: lets hope I find it.10:27
chmod775what should I do one at a time plz10:28
AussieExileis the ATI Radeon Xpress 200M supported by ubuntu?????10:28
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ajmitchchmod775: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/673710:28
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chmod775what did u do ?10:29
ajmitchchmod775: removed the #, as I said, on line 410:29
Mr_Molezcan ne 1  help. i have installed the kernel-headers package for my kernel, but when complinging the ati drivers i get error  entering directory /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 Makefile: no such file or directory10:29
Diablo69hey I just complied something from source10:29
Diablo69how do I add it to my menu list10:29
Diablo69or how do I open it10:29
lachyghi, how can I configure PAM to do authentication via NIS?10:29
ompaulchmod775, hash out the CDROM line while your at it - unless you leave the CDrom in the machine the whole time10:29
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chmod775ok done10:30
lachygI can get it working under OpenBSD, but it doesn't work in ubuntu10:30
lachygDiablo69, use the menu editor10:30
ajmitchchmod775: sudo apt-get update10:30
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Diablo69where would it be located at?10:30
ajmitchchmod775: and then try & get the library again10:31
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chmod775yup doing it ajmitch I actually want to enable transparency with gdesklets10:31
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chmod775and after that I will have to install xcompmgr right ajmitch10:31
chmod775?10:31
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ajmitchchmod775: possibly, I don't know :)10:32
chmod775ok10:32
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chmod775ompaul, do u know this ?10:32
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steveahey, can someone help me install this wireless usb lancard please? someone tried before, but unfortunately it didn't work.... i don't think my computer has recognised the hardware10:33
ompaulchmod775, it should work - but hey try it10:33
lachygDiablo69, sudo apt-get install smeg && smeg10:33
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chmod775ok ompaul u guys are really helpful10:33
drakeoutlawstevea: pls describe the card10:33
steveahttp://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59001&package_id=158645&release_id=34398310:33
steveathats the one10:33
Diablo69ok but I installed it from source10:33
chmod775it's been months since I have been from fedora core 4 to ubuntu it sure rocks10:33
Diablo69where would the file be10:33
Diablo69it complied fine, becuz I was on it for a sec10:33
lachygso you've got smeg running?10:34
steveadrakeoutlaw: well it's actually a NE-WUSB wireless lan card but when i searched that on google for linux drivers, it sent me that way10:34
ajmitchDiablo69: usually /usr/local/bin by default, or wherever you configured it to install to10:34
lachygDiablo69, autotools defaults to --prefix=/usr/local10:34
Diablo69I just saw a gui10:34
Diablo69I have no kewl10:34
lachygso /usr/local/bin/10:34
ajmitchDiablo69: be warned that installing from source can introduce issues later on :)10:35
lachygumm what? you've done ./configure, make, make install right?10:35
lachygajmitch, does it?10:35
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Diablo69nuthing is in /usr/local/bin10:35
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Diablo69I was trying to install gyache with webcam support btw10:35
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lachygok, so what did you do to get it installed?10:36
ajmitchlachyg: sure, if you installed things in gentoo from source outside of the portage system it could also cause issues10:36
Diablo69I clicked it10:36
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Diablo69and when it asked what it shoudl do10:36
lachygajmitch, not really, since portage installs everything in /usr rather than /usr/local10:36
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Diablo69I said open with and there was a default application there10:36
ajmitchlachyg: usually just because you can have a package install to /usr, something from source from /usr/local, and you forget later on, wondering what goes wrong10:36
lachygwhat? i thought you compiled from source10:37
lachygtrue10:37
Diablo69it was a tar.gz file10:37
ajmitchlachyg: I said for something installed apart from portage10:37
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lachygbut we have package.provided to avoid that10:37
ajmitchyes10:37
ompaulajmitch, how to kill a box factoid10:37
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lachygDiablo69, so you did what exactly? you've untarred it, then what?10:38
Diablo69let me do it again10:38
Diablo69and I will tell you step by step10:38
ajmitchwhich is why the packagers do a lot of work to get as much useful stuff into the repositories :)10:38
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ajmitchompaul: kill?10:38
lachygthere's always problems getting some stuff in which no-one wants to maintain10:38
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Diablo69I went to www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat.index.php10:38
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Diablo69clicked on download10:39
steveadrakeoutlaw: do you think you can help?10:39
ompaulajmitch, okay s/kill/broke so that issues arrise and brains get under stress10:39
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ajmitchompaul: I don't really know what you mean, and I don't deal with ubotu enough :)10:39
Diablo69then I clicked on "gyach-enchanced-pyvoicechat-1.0.7-1_i586.tar.bz210:40
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Diablo69chose a mirror10:40
ompaulajmitch, I'll do it after a coffee10:40
lachygDiablo69, skip to the part after you downloaded it10:40
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lachygdoes anyone know how to configure NIS?10:40
Diablo69I clicked open with archive manager (default)10:40
Diablo69then I clicked on makefile I think10:41
drakeoutlawstevea: I'm looking up netami. in the meantime can you see it with iwconfig?10:41
lachygoh10:41
lachygso you didn't actually compile it then10:41
Diablo69what did I do?10:41
lachygi'll walk you through  it10:41
lachygnothing at all10:41
steveadrakeoutlaw: nope10:41
Diablo69ok :)10:41
lachygyou can't execute a makefile10:41
steveadrakeoutlaw: if it helps... lsusb doesn't show anything either except for my mouse10:41
lachygok, download the file to somewhere, (save, not open) and then open up a terminal10:42
Mr_MolezDiablo69: I wouldn't bother trying to compile that, just get the binary. The developer is idle and a waste of space. If you really want to compile it i suggest getting the patches from the gentoo bugzilla10:42
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Madpilothas anyone ever installed the Linux version of Filezilla? It's beta, and I was wondering how usable/stable it is...10:44
Diablo69what now lachyg?10:46
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Morrowynwhere can i dump ubuntu wallpapers?10:47
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Mr_Molezcan someone please tell me what is wrong with the kernel-headers.. most of the files in there are symlinks to its own file but they are broken links.........10:48
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Mr_Molezoh nevermind i figures it out10:51
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Mr_Molez*figured10:52
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Diablo69lachyg: You Here?10:52
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lachygDiablo69, sorry, got to go, need to go single user10:53
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SweetestSavageCould someone explain to me the performance difference between 64-bit and 32-bit?10:54
drakeoutlawstevea: pls see this article. then lets proceed step by step: http://tips.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/20/2251203&tid=100&tid=18&tid=12110:54
steveaok10:54
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annibisDoes anyone here use skype?10:56
annibisI cannot get mine to work10:56
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annibiscan anyone help me get skype to work, I installed it but when I click the icon it never launches10:58
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_Gray_annbis: did u try launching in terminal and see what happens?10:58
annibishow do I do that10:59
_Gray_open a reminal and type 'skype' i guess10:59
_Gray_terminal*10:59
MorrowynSweetestSavage,  with 32bit systems you are capped at 2^32 possibilities (and thus memory adress space) with 64bit you can have 2^64, notice the increase10:59
SweetestSavageMorrowyn, right, but in todays environment.. is it really going to be worth the wait?11:00
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steveadrakeoutlaw: it makes a reference to /etc/wlan but i don't have that folder?11:01
MorrowynSweetestSavage, depends, but 64bit cpus can process more data at the same time11:01
ChousukeHmm.11:02
Morrowynand if applications are specially made 64bit11:02
SweetestSavageMorrowyn, true11:02
Morrowynyou will gain some performance11:02
ChousukeSweetestSavage: as far as I know 32bit systems can't handle more than 1 GB of RAM very well, and are capped at 4GB.11:02
Morrowynbut for now, 90% of the apps are 32bit11:02
Chousuke64 bits allows you to address a lot wider memory space, which helps if you have a lot of RAM.11:03
SweetestSavageHmm.. I suppose I'll stick with 64-bit then =)11:03
Diablo69where can I find themes for mplayer?11:03
Diablo69I searched the packages and didn't see them11:03
SweetestSavageChousuke, yeah.. I was thinking of adding more ram into this computer anyways. 1gb just doesn't seem to cut it like it used to11:03
MorrowynSweetestSavage, yeah, the apps will come around11:03
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Morrowyndepends what you wanna do on yor system11:04
Morrowyn1gb for just office usage11:04
SweetestSavageMorrowyn, I'm running a server for an online game at the moment11:04
Morrowynshould be enough11:04
sampandiablo69  you can download skins for mplayer on the mplayer website (assuming that's what you're looking for)11:04
ChousukeMorrowyn: on Linux though 90% of the most common apps already work natively 64 bit :)11:04
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MorrowynSweetestSavage, i can imagine dumping in more ram will make your life easier11:04
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Diablo69same with xmms?11:05
SweetestSavageMorrowyn, yep, plus RAM will be getting cheaper and cheaper.. so it's not much of a cost either.11:05
mal1why would someone choose RHEL over Ubuntu?11:05
sampandiablo69  yeah i think so -- xmms also can use winamp3 skins iirc11:05
Chousukemal1: perhaps for the support.11:05
MorrowynChousuke, nice, but 90% isnt really good enough for me, i need 64bit apps all the way, at least for all the programs im using11:05
SweetestSavageDiablo69, if you're looking for an alternative I recommend amaroK.11:05
mal1my guess too11:05
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Morrowynbut im patient :)11:06
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SweetestSavageI just hope gaming goes toward the 64-bit side of things =)11:06
ChousukeMorrowyn: Well, if you don't need w32codecs or proprietary stuff you can pretty much have 100%11:06
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Morrowyntrue11:07
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Morrowynthing is i need maya, photoshop, flash etc....11:07
_Gray_use windows then11:07
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Morrowynno11:07
mal1I wanted to install ubuntu on the various machines in the lab, but the admin of the department net says that he would prefer centos11:07
SweetestSavageGIMP is 64-bit compatible.. Flash.. not yet.. maya? Not sure what that is11:07
Morrowynmaya runs extremely nice on 32bit ubuntu11:07
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Morrowynas well as photoshop through crossover office11:07
Morrowynand 32bit flash is nice too11:07
drakeoutlawstevea; I assume its 802.11b or 802.11g right?11:08
Morrowynso no windows for me11:08
steveadrakeoutlaw: yeah11:08
stevea802.11b i'm pretty sure11:08
mal1i hear that RHEL tends to be more stable since it has longer support cycles and shorter development cycles11:08
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mal1but for a computer graphics lab, ubuntu seems like the right choice11:08
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LeonWPmoin11:09
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LeonWPerrr, hi :-)11:09
mal1might have been coding cycles11:09
drakeoutlawstevea: six lights on top white colored box?11:10
mal1dunno, but if you spend less time adding features and more time supporting those existing features, I can see how it would result in stabler software11:10
Diablo69I got the skin11:10
Diablo69how do I install it?11:10
AtreidesNZHello,11:10
AtreidesNZI haven't been using Ubuntu long and I have a question. Firefox 1.5 has been out for a while and has a Linux version, and I want to update my computer's version from 1.0.7 to 1.5.11:10
AtreidesNZI tried downloading the .tar.gz from the Firefox website but got confused by where exactly I should extract it. Synaptic seemed to offer an easier approach to updating stuff, but it says that the latest version available is only 1.0.7. Why? What should I do?11:10
mal1heh, wait11:10
steveadrakeoutlaw: sorry?11:10
Chousukemal1: true that, but if you do the "support" on a released version it kind of ruins it all.11:10
Kindred!ff1.511:10
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:10
KindredAtreidesNZ, I would take a look at that11:11
SweetestSavageQuestion: Is there a program for Linux that operates like Fraps does? (http://www.fraps.com/), basically making videos of a certain program running on your desktop? I've tried Istanbul and it's not what I was looking for.. atleast, it didn't work for games.11:11
drakeoutlawstevea: is it a white colored box with 6 lights on top? do any of the lights come on when plugged into usb port?11:11
Chousukeif on the other hand your development consists of adding some features and fixing bugs before release, then it's probably going to be stable11:11
AtreidesNZOk, I'll have a look. Thanks..11:11
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steveadrakeoutlaw: If you mean the wireless usb lan card, yeah a light does come on11:12
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MorrowynSweetestSavage, maya is a 3d animation application, which was used in all pixar movies, lotr movies etc. gimp, well it a nice app for small stuff, but its so gimped in comparison with photoshop11:12
mal1Morrowyn: ? You mean the UI?11:12
steveahttp://www.dawoonet.co.kr/Images/FTPImage/00/00/12/99/NE-WUSB_s.jpg <--- thats basically it11:12
Morrowynyeah, like resizing your burshes on the fly11:13
antonio_hi guys anyone can help me with ubuntu+java?11:13
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mal1gimp can do everything and more11:13
drakeoutlawstevea: any sign of activity in /var/log/syslog? ( you can do tail /var/log/syslog)11:13
mal1it'll just take longer =)11:13
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Morrowyni use [ and ]  in photoshop to resize the bursh size i havent seen such an option in gimp yet11:13
Morrowynand i use that a lot11:13
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steveadrakeoutlaw: yep11:14
Mr_Molezwhere can i get more updated kernels for ubuntu (.deb) ?11:14
ajmitch     ~.11:14
stevea"usb2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address5"11:14
mal1I wouldn't call gimp "production quality," but it is good for most general uses11:14
antonio_I need help, plz: how can i get libgcj.so.6.0.0 for ubuntu?11:15
KindredMorrowyn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10546611:15
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Kindredseems easy enough.11:15
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Morrowyni see11:15
mal1I would say its more important knowing how to use the existing tools well, rather than having the tool do everything for you11:15
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mal1what doesn't photoshop do?11:15
KindredMorrowyn, agreed htough it's no photoshop.11:16
drakeoutlawstevea: so now we have to correctly identify the chipset and then go find a driver. do you have windows installed and does it work in windows?11:16
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StokesTheoremgtg11:18
StokesTheoremthanks for your help everyone11:18
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mal1one day math will become trendy11:18
mal1everyone will wear tshirts with their favorite mathematical theorem on it11:18
mal1it'll be great11:18
Morrowynmal1 im not going to discuss gimp vs photoshop with you, i prefer using photoshop , their ui is a lot better than gimps (imo) . Just the fact that i need to create a "dynamic" brush and attach kotkeys to it. Sorry is not my thing.11:19
Diablo69oy who's idea was it for apps in ubuntu to freeze?11:20
mal1Morrowyn: everyone knows photoshop is better, no arguing that11:20
Morrowynhowever gimp has a lot of potential11:20
Morrowynits just that they need a good ui, so ppl can get work done11:21
Morrowynand not do lots of stuff manually11:21
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mal1Morrowyn: well its hard to expect something thats free to reach the level of quality of a professional grade application (although it has happened)11:21
Morrowynbefore they can actually work on their images11:21
mal1Morrowyn: especially when we talk about expert systems11:21
Morrowyntrue, although, you can learn a lot from the expert system11:22
SweetestSavageWhat is the current stability of Dapper Drake? I'm thinking of trying it out..11:22
Morrowynand maybe incorporate it in your own, especially the handy stuff11:22
Morrowynlike dynamic burshes11:22
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Morrowynits just to make life easier11:22
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Morrowynin gimp11:23
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Mr_Molezwhere can i get more updated kernels for ubuntu (.deb) ?11:23
mal1Morrowyn: Yea, it could definitely be improved. I don't exactly know how many people code for GIMP or how easy or hard it is to add new features to it11:23
mal1I imagine its quite difficult11:23
Morrowynhere in holland there is this saying (translated directly) better well stolen, than poorly designed11:24
Morrowyni totally agree11:24
Morrowynbut designing a good user interface is an abstract thing11:24
Morrowynyou dont have to code 1 line for that11:24
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mal1Morrowyn: I don't know if GIMP is built upon solid OOP principles11:25
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Morrowynjust sit and think, if i wanna do "this" how can i do that efficiently and easy11:25
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mal1Morrowyn: heh, I do that all the time, but its not so easy when you start coding11:26
Morrowynshould i place this "button" on the left corner or the top right corner, should i make a "wizard" so the end user can resize its image or just a menu option11:26
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steveasorry drakeoutlaw11:26
steveai got disconnected11:26
SweetestSavageWhat is the current stability of Dapper Drake? I'm thinking of trying it out.. that is, using it instead of Breezy (as my main desktop).11:26
mal1Morrowyn: You should try using GTK, its not exactly easy =)11:27
steveawhat was the last message you typed drakeoutlaw?11:27
mal1Morrowyn: qt is a lot easier if you ask me11:27
slonocodewhich file controls the services that start on boot?11:27
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drakeoutlawstevea: so now we have to correctly identify the chipset and then go find a driver. do you have windows installed and does it work in windows?11:27
Morrowynok11:27
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steveadrakeoutlaw: yes i do11:27
cyphasewhenever it gets to dark, it turns off11:27
kestasis there any way to get xchat going in a notification bar like gaim?11:27
Morrowynthe only gui toolkits i have used is awt/swing and .net so far11:28
cyphasekestas, yes11:28
steveadrakeoutlaw: actually sorry, did you type anything before that? the last message i typed was the information about regarding the usb thing..11:28
cyphasei have it in the bar11:28
Morrowynbreakfast :D11:28
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kestascyphase, okay... :) can you guess what my next question will be?11:29
mal1I am an open source nut. I like things free and community driven. Even if it sucks, its still spiritually fulfilling11:29
concept10!mysql11:29
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP11:29
cyphasekestas, i think so11:29
concept10!info mysql11:29
drakeoutlawstevea; I was hoping that syslog would give more info on what the usb device was11:29
kestashow do I get it running in the notification bar like gaim?11:29
cyphasekestas, i know :)11:30
cyphasejust install xchat-systray11:30
steveadrakeoutlaw: oh thats right11:30
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steveadrakeoutlaw: so yeah.. i have windows and the wireless card works on it.. do you want me to look for somthing?11:31
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Qzxccan i run ubunto with 64 mb of ram ?11:32
TengkSAis it possible, through linux, to edit files on your windows mounted drives11:32
mal1we need to start comparing gimp to mspaint11:33
AtreidesNZInstalling Firefox 1.5. Bah. Complicated. I did what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion said but I think I've broken something. At least 1.0.7 does still work. I'm going to bed. Otherwise my head'll fall off.11:33
drakeoutlawlook in controlpanel > system to see what the driver of the card is11:33
Qzxc<TengkSA>:yes but it is dangerous11:33
SweetestSavageAtreidesNZ, what version of Ubuntu are you using?11:33
cyphaseTengkSA, yes, unless it's using NTFS11:33
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TengkSAQzxc, why is it dangerous?11:33
Madpilotmal1: that's hardly fair - GIMP is far closer to PS than MSPaint, even if it isn't all the way there... :P11:33
KindredAtreidesNZ, yeah it's a bit of a process..11:33
cyphaseTengkSA, Qzxc means dangerous on NTFS11:33
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AtreidesNZSweetestSavage, latest one. Breezy Badger. 5.1011:34
Qzxcif you work with ntfs ...11:34
TengkSAbut WHY11:34
cyphaseon others it's fine11:34
SweetestSavageAtreidesNZ, what Kernel?11:34
cyphaseTengkSA, because linux doesn't have good support for writing to NTFS11:34
AtreidesNZI dunno. I just updated everything automagically cos it told me to.11:34
Qzxcntfs stores the file on sepreate places on the same medium11:34
SweetestSavageWhat's the command that displays your kernel? Anyone know? It's uname something11:34
Kindreduname -r11:34
Qzxcuname -r11:34
MadpilotSweetestSavage: uname -a11:35
SweetestSavage-r or -a? o.o11:35
cyphase-r11:35
SweetestSavageAlright11:35
MadpilotSweetestSavage: -r for just the kernel, -a for everthing11:35
Qzxc-r kernel version -a all info11:35
SweetestSavageAtreidesNZ, type uname -r and tell me what it says11:35
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TengkSAand is there no way to access files saved in your linux partition through windows11:35
mal1madpilot: heh, I mean that both are free and packed with the OS, therefore its unfair to compare gimp to photoshop.11:35
AtreidesNZSweetestSavage, 2.6.12-9-38611:35
cyphaseTengkSA, no11:36
KindredTengkSA, sure there is11:36
SweetestSavageAtreidesNZ, hmm, well it should work.. make sure you followed all the instructions properly.11:36
cyphase..11:36
Madpilotmal1: "free" from MS != free software free...11:36
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Qzxci need to run on amd 500 with 64 mb ram any suggestions ?11:36
cyphaseTengkSA, what's your setup?11:36
MadpilotQzxc: buy a lot more ram?11:36
mal1Madpilot: I was going to use quotes but that was like 2 extra characters11:36
wizardjamesHow do i read ext3 format on windows?11:36
blue-frogqx11:36
TengkSAcyphase, windows on one partition and linux on another11:36
blue-frogQzxc, server install11:37
cyphaseTengkSA, what are the filesystems?11:37
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steveadrakeoutlaw11:37
TengkSAntfs11:37
Qzxc<blue-frog>: 10x ..11:37
Kindredwizardjames, ext2fs, mount everything,.. there's a few bits of software around for that11:37
TengkSAcyphase, ntfs11:37
mal1oh btw, you can actually create new brushes that are of variable width =)11:37
Qzxc<blue-frog>:xfce should run ?11:38
blue-frogQzxc, more than slowly11:38
AtreidesNZSweetestSavage, Yeah, it should, but it don't, and now I'm going to bed. I'm off on two weeks holiday in the South Island leaving tomorrow morning and it's now almost midnight. Linux will have to wait. Why can't I have my nice .exe installers anymore? Boohoo. Lucky I still have my Windows PC sitting on top of my Ubuntu one.11:38
cyphaseTengkSA, linux can read ntfs fine, but not write, whereas windows can't do anything with linux formats11:38
Qzxchow to acces reisfs ?11:38
cyphaseTengkSA, consider making a third partition formatted as FAT32..11:38
Qzxcvia xp11:38
mal1I don't think many people are actually aware of how capable gimp really is =)11:38
blue-frogQzxc, server install eats 40 RAm I think, don't know what xubuntu-desktop will take11:38
cyphaseTengkSA, and use it for things you need to have on both11:39
TengkSAcyphase, or format my 2nd hard drive .. my multimedia hard drive to be fat3211:39
Qzxc<blue-frog>: ooh .. bummer ..11:39
cyphaseTengkSA, that too11:39
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TengkSAso does that mean that i could download to that hard drive off both username11:39
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cyphaseTengkSA, yes11:39
TengkSAi mean both OSs cyphase11:39
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cyphaseTengkSA, and either way, you can read the windows stuff with linux11:39
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cyphaseTengkSA, so if you need to just move stuff from windows to linux, it'd be fine11:40
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Qzxccu channel have to go ..11:40
TengkSAcyphase, no i wanna download stuff using linux too like music/movies but it obv cant save so that i can access it thru win11:41
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cyphaseTengkSA, not in ntfs anyway11:41
KindredTengkSA, if you want to read/write to a linux partition in windows check out http://www.fs-driver.org/11:41
mal1install a ext3 reader for windows11:41
MadpilotTengkSA: both Windows & Linux can read FAT3211:41
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mal1^ like that11:41
MadpilotTengkSA: read & write, I meant to say...11:42
mal1ok, I have a question. What do you guys think Linux simply can't do that Windows can?11:42
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mal1apart from playing WMV911:42
Madpilotmal1: get viruses :P11:42
ompaulajmitch, may I msg u ?11:43
Kindredshrink my dual layer dvds to single layer and burn one in about 15 minutes?11:43
mal1heh, a windows lab machine in our lab caught a virus and nearly crippled the department11:43
BigKahunais john the ripper in the ubuntu repos?11:43
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mal1we are no longer allowed to connect our windows machines to the network11:43
cyphasemal1, same thing happened at the area community college11:44
cyphaseduring the blaster outbreak, and more recently11:44
cyphasethe entire network was taken down11:44
mal1yea, we call that Fridays at my University =)11:45
mal1heh11:45
cyphase:)11:45
Kindred hehe11:45
kemikmal1:  seems reasonable considering the security issues in windows ;)11:45
cyphasei was able to convince them to at least install firefox11:45
mal1luckily nearly every lab uses linux11:45
mal1too bad they are all using centos11:46
mal190% of the graduate students can't administer the systems, which is kinda sad11:46
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welphow do i install fluxbox? apt-get install fluxbox?11:46
JuhazOney011:47
mal1ah well, you don't learn linux until you have to work with a really basic linux distro11:47
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JuhazOnecan't create an udf filesystem on a dvd+rw. help appreciated. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/673811:47
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steveahi, can anyone help me install this wireless usb lan card driver? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59001&package_id=158645&release_id=34398311:47
welp:P11:47
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cyphasestevea, which card?11:47
mal1same here11:48
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mal1Gentoo is what I learned like 80% of what I know about it11:48
soai..11:48
mal1Learned practically nothing with Mandrake11:48
ajmitchompaul: not now, sorry11:48
JuhazOnei used gentoo myself, too11:48
welpby basic, do you mean easy to use, or loads of text-file configuration?11:48
ompaulnp11:48
mal1Gentoo is great, but somewhat impractical11:48
JuhazOnei liked it... except for the fact that when i got my new computer it never seemed to work11:49
cyphasesince we're talking about distros..11:49
cyphasei love ubuntu :P11:49
cyphasebeen using it since day one (of the distro)11:49
steveacyphase: its a NE-WUSB11:49
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steveabut when i searched for it, it led me to that driver11:49
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ROBOdhey guys11:49
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JuhazOnewell, seems like i'm not getting much help for the udf problem i have...11:49
ROBOdi got my ubuntu 5.10 linux ... and it's downloading like crazy11:50
welpi love gentoo, but i'm having endless problems with it on my laptop, and i'm a fan of ubuntu too, although i have it on no computers11:50
welpATM11:50
JuhazOneanyone have an idea why the hell some of my network related apps freeze?11:50
ROBOdalready 30-40 mb downloaded11:50
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JuhazOnethe processes actually become immortal.11:50
ROBOda lot of traffic ...11:50
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JuhazOnei've written a bit about it there: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=61373011:50
mal1JuhazOne: I sometimes have that problem with the network tool that Ubuntu uses to configure the network11:50
welpso do i just do: apt-get install fluxbox? to get fluxbox11:50
ROBOdi tried netstat -tup ... and the the port being used for traffic is ... not showing any PID11:50
JuhazOnemal1: well i have it with wget :<11:51
JuhazOneand that's bad11:51
ROBOdwhy?11:51
mal1JuhazOne: hmmm, sounds like a driver issue11:51
ROBOdhow to determine what app does the downloading?11:51
JuhazOneinteresting11:51
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everthello all11:52
JuhazOnethe nic is some basic intel. bought in 2000 i believe. :)11:52
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JuhazOneintel pro 10/100+ or something11:52
pienilammasHi everybody! I was trying to install ubuntu on my laptop but without any success. I would like to do it from my USB device. And I understand absolutely nothing about PCs. Anyone willing to help me please?11:52
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JuhazOnepienilammas: hey lil' sheep11:52
ROBOdanybody knows? ...11:52
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pienilammasjuhazOne :)  moi!11:53
JuhazOne:)11:53
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fekmoin11:53
kemikJuhaz:  NIC's rarely "die"11:53
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everthow can i copy a file into ect/mozilla-firefox/profile/chrome ? i can't paste there a thing :(  i have to paste there a new userconfig.css file11:53
kemik*JuhazOne11:53
JuhazOnekemik: they just start acting weird?11:53
kemikevert:  sudo11:53
BurgundaviaI am looking for the author of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OtherWaysToInstall11:54
kemikJuhazOne:  rarely... i'd say it's the NIC driver more likely11:54
JuhazOnehmmh.11:54
everthow can you sudo a thing when you are just like in windows doing it by using the "explorer ?"11:54
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kemikJuhazOne:  if i were you i'd try another NIC (another brand aswell)11:54
generalleoffgot a rather small yet annoying issue I can't fix. I have a uTorrent folder on one of my windows drives with the proper u "micro" charector.11:54
generalleoffUbuntu can not see this folder correct11:54
generalleoffany way to make it see it?11:54
JuhazOnemaybe i'll have to look for one then11:55
kemikevert:  then you'd have to start nautilus with gksudo i guess11:55
JuhazOneor try the integrated one perhaps11:55
JuhazOneit just didn't work in windows :>11:55
kemikJuhazOne:  the integrated should be fine11:55
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evertkemik ; i'm completely new to ubuntu and to linux ... what you said is like chinese for me :(11:55
JuhazOnehey, actually i've got another NIC that's exactly like the one i've got in this computer11:55
concept10firefox 1.5 should still be in beta.  It has too many mem leaks!11:55
kemikevert:  then learn chinese ;)11:55
BurgundaviaPaulOMalley?11:55
kemikevert:  you have different users which own files11:56
evertthere is just one user ...11:56
kemikevert:  systemfiles are usually owned by the "root" user (the administrator if you like)11:56
kemikevert:  and then there is your user11:56
evertyeah11:56
everti get that11:56
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kemikevert:  in order to have "root" access, in ubuntu you use "sudo"11:56
JuhazOnekemik: do i need to configure the integrated adapter or _should_ it start working right away after i've enabled it in the bios?11:57
evertbut i can use sudo , but that's in that console thing ?11:57
kemikevert:  yea11:57
everthow can i copy things when i'm in the console ?11:57
kemikevert:  but you can start "nautilus" (the 'explorer' app)11:57
zhangtao?11:57
Madpilot!cli11:57
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org11:57
Madpilotevert: ^^^11:57
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evertso in console i have to typ : sudo nautilus ?11:57
kemikevert:   "gksudo nautilius"  (not that i recommend todo that unless you have to)11:57
evertok11:58
kemikevert:  sudo works aswell, but gksudo is recommended for guiapps11:58
saib0tNew version of my Ubuntu loginscreen is out.! http://gnomelook.org/content/pre1/33444-1.jpg11:58
everti'm trying it now :)11:58
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kemikevert:  or you could use "cp" which i copy11:58
kemikcp source destination11:58
kemikJuhazOne:  i'm not sure if linux would autodetect the new device... i *hope* so ;)11:58
evertwhen i try gksudo nautilius , i get an error :(11:59
kemikJuhazOne:  try enabling it and see what happens11:59
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JuhazOnek11:59
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JuhazOnekemik: thanks :)11:59
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JuhazOne-->11:59
Madpilotevert: what error?11:59
evertcommand not found11:59
Kindrednautilus not nautilius btw11:59
kemikevert:  spelled it wrong12:00
Madpilotevert: spelling counts on the command line! :P12:00
kemikcant just copy paste what i say *hehhehe12:00
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evertlol i know12:00
everti copy pasted it !12:00
Kindred:)12:00
kemikim errorprone12:00
evertthis is what i did in console : evert@evert:~$ gksudo nautilius12:00
evertsudo: nautilius: command not found12:00
kemikyeah12:01
kemikwell gksudo nautilus12:01
Madpilotevert: nautilus - no 2nd i12:01
mahanguhow can i install .ttf fonts in ubuntu?12:01
evertah ok :)12:01
Madpilot!fonts12:01
ubotufonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto12:01
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mal1woot, got maya working on this laptop12:01
mal1so easy too12:01
mal1alien is awesome12:02
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kemik!info acroread12:02
ubotuacroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB12:02
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ZiX_!info alienware12:02
ZiX_!alienware12:02
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ZiX_12:02
Madpilot!info alien12:02
Madpilot!alien12:03
everti dit the nautilus thing , it worked , but i still can't paste the file into that mozilla firefox map ?12:03
ubotumethinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/12:03
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kemikevert:  what error do you get?12:03
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SmerdyKoV_ah sweet12:03
kemikevert:  and beware, using nautilus with root permissions can be devastating...12:03
SmerdyKoV_sweet sweet linux users to help me with my computing needs12:03
everti don't get an error ... if i right klick , i can't use the "'past" thing in the menu ...12:03
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  just ask you real question12:03
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StorkHELP! i keep getting this error ("/home/alex/torrent: No such file or directory") when doing "scp -r ~/torrent/ alex@192.168.0.10:/home/alex/"12:04
kemikevert:  well, you have to copy it first12:04
evert?12:04
kemikyou cant just "paste" it from nowhere12:04
kemikhave to copy it first..aiiit12:04
SmerdyKoV_i was just wondering if someone could direct me to a channel at which i could learn the basics of hacking12:04
everti have copied it in another screen12:04
evert:s12:04
StorkSmerdyKoV_, #script-kiddies12:04
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  'hacking' eh? ;)12:04
MadpilotSmerdyKoV_: "hacking" in what sense?12:04
Storkyou'll never be a leet haxor like i am.12:05
SmerdyKoV_breaking into other people's computers12:05
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Storklol.12:05
SmerdyKoV_i.e. lone gunmen12:05
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Kindredheh12:05
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kemikevert:  well, it doesnt carry over to anohter process12:05
Storka) that's illegal, b) this isn't the place for it, c) no12:05
kemikevert:  what have you copied btw, a File or just text ?12:05
evertnow it workded :12:06
StorkHELP! i keep getting this error ("/home/alex/torrent: No such file or directory") when doing "scp -r ~/torrent/ alex@192.168.0.10:/home/alex/"12:06
kemikevert:  good12:06
evertthanks kemik :)12:06
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kemiknp12:06
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kemikSmerdyKoV_:  grow up :P12:06
SmerdyKoV_yeah i should12:06
Storkit's not hard anyway12:06
evertlinux isn't that easy as i hoped it i'll be :(12:06
Storka simple home-made trojan will suffice12:06
SmerdyKoV_I just feel very ignorant trying to learn the workings of computers without knowing even the concept behind hacking12:06
JuhazOnewow12:06
JuhazOneyou guys are awesome12:07
JuhazOnewget works perfectly now :))12:07
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  there are alot of ways to 'hack'.. usually exploit bugs in programs etc.. or you can social-engineer.. now go use google12:07
Madpilotevert: it's different, and a bit more locked down than Windows - which is one of the major reasons it's more secure, too12:07
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kemiki think vista will be 'harder' to learn as well12:08
evertyes , but you have to do some many things with the console :(12:08
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JuhazOnekemik: thanks :)12:08
kemikevert:  not really... there are GUI equivalents to alot of things12:08
kemikJuhazOne:  works?12:08
sudhirwhich repo has mplayer ?12:08
JuhazOnekemik: yup12:08
pienilammasWhen I try to install ubuntu from the CD-rom my pc doesn't respond at all. Did someone have the same problem? does  someone know how to solve it?12:08
kemikJuhazOne:  good... could be driverissue or failiinghardware.... hard to determine which it is12:09
sudhirpienil : does ur comp respond to other OS while booting from CD ?12:09
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JuhazOnekemik: yep...12:09
Madpilotevert: there are some very good basic console tutorials out there - it's not that scary and even pretty cool, some of things you can do in console12:09
kemiksudhir:  universe/multiverse12:09
Storkis there any way to "alt+tab" out of quake4 while it's running in full screen mode? the only way i can get working is ctrl+alt+backspace, which is pretty annoying having to restart everything12:09
JuhazOneit was interesting though that the nic worked a while after installing a new kernel12:09
sudhirkemik : I open all :( but no use :(12:10
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kemiksudhir:  well it's there... tried search ?12:10
cyphasehttp://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/12/27/web-212:10
evertmadpilot , do you know a site with some of that basic console tutorials on ?12:10
sudhiryeh did it says mozilla mplayer plugin12:10
pienilammasSudhir: I was able to boot knoppix live cd but not ubuntu live cd.12:10
Seigmannhello, does anybody know about any programs who is compatible with Ipod, or are there any way to get Itunes for linux?12:11
kemiksudhir:  did you update after adding repos?12:11
SmerdyKoV_no one in script kiddies12:11
kemik!info mplayer12:11
ulaasSeigmann, banshee12:11
Seigmannthanks, Ill try that..12:11
sudhiryep12:11
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Storkis there any way to "alt+tab" out of quake4 while it's running in full screen mode? the only way i can get working is ctrl+alt+backspace, which is pretty annoying having to restart everything12:11
Madpilot!tell evert about cli12:12
evertcli ?12:12
kemiksudhir:  well i took it from universe or multiverse i'm sure12:12
sudhirpienil : did u perform md checksum12:13
Madpilotevert: the bot should have sent you a message?12:13
sudhirkemik : humm.... :( ok last option, let me compile from source code ( I hate this ;)12:13
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kemiksudhir:  you really dont have to compile it12:14
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kemiksudhir:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/673912:14
Madpilotevert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org12:14
evertah i see12:15
evertsorry12:15
Storkhow do i extract a bunch of .rar files into one single file?12:15
evertthanx for the links !12:15
docta_vStork: unrar12:15
sudhirwow thats cool12:15
kemiksudhir:  it's in "multiverse" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto12:16
SmerdyKoV_kemik: what do you recomend i search for on google, "hacking" returns PLENTY of irrelevant material12:16
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  i wont do your homework12:16
sudhirkemik : can u cp ur /etc/apt/source.list12:16
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moodogMorning all.12:16
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Storkdocta_v, there's like 20 rar files (.r01, .r02, etc) and together they make up a whole file. what's the command to extract them into one file?12:16
pienilammassudhir: no, but I've tried two cd for ubuntu: one form ubuntulunux.org and the other form linuxmagazine cd. and both they work perfectly on my other pc.12:16
Madpilotlater, all... I need sleep12:16
SmerdyKoV_:S12:17
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docta_vStork: unrar12:17
kemiksudhir:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6740 <- should be what you want12:17
docta_vSmerdyKoV_: try "buffer overflow"12:17
wdhStork, just unrar the main file.. probably *.rar12:17
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SmerdyKoV_what would that be?12:17
Storkoh ok12:17
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docta_vwhat's up with people coming in here for help extracting their warez12:19
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docta_vnever happened to me in any other linux channel12:19
kemikdocta_v:  just cause stuff is .rared doesnt mean it's "WAREZ"12:20
wdhdocta_v, well.. maybe he's trying to unrar his brother's backups :P12:20
kemik(even tho it probably is...)12:20
SmerdyKoV_are there any channels that might be more helpful to my hacking research12:20
SmerdyKoV_i.e. want to get rid of me/12:20
docta_vkemik: it's like when I worked tech support at an ISP and customers needed help with binary newsgroups. of course it was porn12:21
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docta_vbut you just had to pretend it was something legit12:21
SmerdyKoV_i was afraid to take my computer to the shop because of the massive ammount of porn on my media partition12:21
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SmerdyKoV_lol12:21
docta_vSmerdyKoV_: i told you to google for buffer overflow...get to work12:21
SmerdyKoV_i did12:22
wdhSmerdyKoV_, i guess it goes the other way around.. learn everything of computers there is to know.. and then you'll be an excellent hacker12:22
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SmerdyKoV_i don't really understand what i'm supposed to see12:22
frans-thhi all12:22
frans-thi am a breezy user, want to know how to install openoffice 2.0 in my ubuntu12:22
kemikdocta_v:  it could be regular "anime" ... heh12:22
SmerdyKoV_:S12:22
frans-thcan help12:22
docta_vthat's because you only spent five minutes looking at it instead of 2 weeks12:22
SmerdyKoV_i'm not looking to learn how, i just want to know the basic concepts12:22
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docta_vgo to wikipedia or something then12:23
wdhfrans-th, "Applications" -> "Add applications" ?12:23
wdhfrans-th, or: " System" -> "Administration" -> "Synaptic Package Manager"12:24
docta_vSmerdyKoV_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker12:24
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  this isnt "hackers"12:24
kemik"#hackers"12:24
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SmerdyKoV_that's all i was looking for12:24
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  first you'll have to learn how to use GOOGLE12:24
docta_vkemik: lmao12:24
docta_vand wikipedia12:24
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kemikwikipedia rocks12:25
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pigorhallo12:25
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SmerdyKoV_well not knowing basics of computer operating systems, looking up obscure technical facts doesn't really help me12:25
SmerdyKoV_i'm trying to find what the basic concept of "hacking" is12:26
docta_vso learn the basics then12:26
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berkeshello good people :)12:26
wdhSmerdyKoV_, i already told you so.. hacking is all about obscure technical facts.. get a clue.. learn everything there is to know about computers.. and after that start thinking about hacking..12:26
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  i already told you the basic concept(s)12:26
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frans-thwdh: i find still 1.9.x12:26
frans-thwdh: the openoffice 2.0 is not there12:27
kemikSmerdyKoV_:  exploiting bugs, or social engineering basically..12:27
docta_vand read that entire wikipedia entry including all the external links12:27
pigori have just made a new ubuntu installation and wanna revover my evolution address book (i have saved my ".evolution" directory)12:27
berkeswhat is the ubuntu "good practice" for adding binaries and scripts to my user account?12:27
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berkesi mean: what to put in PATH and where to store them?12:27
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wdhfrans-th, you are probably right there.. openoffice2.0 was released after the release of breezy.. and therefore it has not been included..12:27
pigorfirst i have tried to use the import function - but it seems not to support address books12:28
fancygod ,so many E~anybody is Chinese ?12:28
fancy?12:28
berkeswdh: frans-th, odd, because my kubuntu ships with 2.012:28
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wdhfrans-th, the 1.9.x works fine for me though.. i recommend using that and waiting untill Dapper comes in april..12:28
pigorthen i have copied the whole ".evolution" directory in my home ... but no addresses :-(12:28
berkesabout the executables: should I put them under ~/bin ?12:29
wdhberkes, it doesnt.. it's called openoffice2, but is actually of version 1.9.129-something..12:29
pigorberkes: why not? but you have to put ~/bin in your PATH (-> .bashrc)12:29
berkespigor: no reason why not, :)12:30
berkespigor: i wanted to know what the "ubuntu defaults" are for this12:30
GURThow can i clear the cache of things i've entered into a terminal windows command line?12:30
berkesI mean, off course I can put them under ~/coffeemug and add that to $PATH12:30
pienilammasplease, can someone help mi in installing my ubunt version? teh cd rom doesn't work on this PC and I would find another way or a solution.12:31
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berkesbut i doubt that that is the ubuntu default :)12:31
pigorberkes: are there any defaults? .. never heared about that12:31
GURTif i press the up arrow i get all the things i've typed, is there a way ot clear those?12:31
wdhberkes, try "apt-cache show openoffice.org2 | grep Version:"  What does it say?12:31
berkespigor: no, neither have I12:31
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Myrttirefresh my memory, is 5GB enough for Ubuntu installation?12:31
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berkeswdh: Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 indeed12:32
kemikMyrtti:  yes12:32
Myrttithanks.12:32
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TengkSAwhat program do you use as a P2P like limewire or kazaa12:32
berkeswdh: because previously the spash had this ugly 1.9^D^D 2.0 thing, I thought it now shipped 2.012:32
pigorTengkSA: frostwire12:33
wdhberkes, you'll probably wont notice the difference anyway :)12:33
berkesTengkSA: and on linux emule is quit well supported12:33
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berkeswdh: i hope I will, its very unstable still (on KDE)12:33
TengkSAwhat is better.. frostwire or emule? and is there such a thing as spyware on linux12:33
berkesbut I hardly use it anyway. Faaaar to bloated, slow and crufty anyway.12:34
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wdhberkes, ok, didnt know that.. i happen to dislike office suites ;P12:34
pigorTengkSA: never heared about spyware on linux12:34
berkesI very much prefer koffice.12:34
berkesits, i remember, 15% the size of oo.o12:35
berkesstill it offers nearly 80% of the features.12:35
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katie_Anyone familiar with matroska on Ubuntu?12:35
berkesand it loads 3.75 times faster here, too. But that is because KDE has the libs and stuff preloaded off course12:36
TengkSApigor, will you please guide me through the installation of frostwire once i have downloadaed it12:36
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tuomas1Little help with installation needed: installation freezes on an amilo d8830 laptop. any ideas?12:37
frans-thwdh, why should i wait, if i can install now? but how :P12:38
berkestuomas1: did you try the -noapic options'?12:38
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tuomas1berkes: thanks, I'll give it a try12:39
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joshihei hei ppl! :) i got problem12:39
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Katie^Haven't we all...12:39
joshii maneged to get work UT goty but it runs too fast...12:39
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joshilike twice faster than normal12:40
pigorTengkSA: ok .. i will try12:40
wdhfrans-th, for stability purposes i would say.. but then again.. berkes tells me that its not that stable at the moment..12:40
wdhfrans-th, so i would recommend that you tried 1.9.xxx and only upgrade to 2.0 if you find that it is really unstable/annoying..12:41
frans-thwdh, what is that mean?12:41
berkeswdh: i think that has much to do with KDE12:41
frans-thwdh, i use in windows, 2.0 is very stable, and i want it in my ubuntu,12:41
frans-thwsh, how can you said it is unstable?12:41
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orhs_hey12:42
berkesoowriter2: sys     0m1.336s | kword: sys     0m0.068s12:42
wdhfrans-th, never mind.. do whatever you think you should do.. i think i said enough for now..12:42
berkesthat is incredible! openoffice needs nearly 20 times as much time as koffice to load a file.12:43
wdh:)12:43
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orhs_ya all know that ubuntu supports the "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" thats version 1.0 right? well ubuntu dosen't support my card but thats exactly like besides that it is Version 2.0 !12:43
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TengkSAcan someone please help me install frostwire12:43
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mweberkes: so what. who can't wait one second for a file to open?12:43
frans-thwdh, when will the stabel 2.0 can be run in ubuntu? must wait druppe?12:43
ompaulberkes, now make both of thise files around 10 megs and see see how long it takes12:43
berkesmwest: that is the system time12:44
welphow is ubuntu with bluetooth?12:44
TengkSAANYONE?!!?12:44
orhs_good welp12:44
berkesthe real time is 50 seconds vs 4.8 seconds12:44
ompaulfrans-th, dapper12:44
berkesthat is a minute vs instantaniously.12:44
frans-thompaul, right :P12:44
mweberkes: 50 seconds to open a file? your system must be broken12:44
ompaul!patients12:44
ubotuompaul: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!12:44
berkesmwest: no you are getting me wront12:45
berkeswrong12:45
welporhs_, i have a PDA with bluetooth and if i get a bluetooth thing for my ubuntu laptop reckon i could use it?12:45
TengkSAompaul, heya12:45
wdhfor another matter: can anyone tell me how to get the usplash working on breezy? i upgraded it from hoary earlier.. but the usplash seems to fail on a message like: "insmod: cant read /lib/modules/xxxx/vesafb.ko"12:45
ompaulTengkSA, hello12:45
berkes50 seconds to load a file by firing op openoffice completely12:45
lucasvowelp: I don't think WinCE will like it12:45
Katie^how do i run mplayer with GUI12:45
orhs_welp, Yes i think so. it worked fine between my cell and laptop12:45
mweberkes: oh12:45
berkesmy point is, no-one can deny that, that open office is HUGE, and quite slow, in doing stuff.12:46
welporhs_, ok, thanks, do i need to install anything on the laptop or is it plug and play?12:46
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frans-thhmb12:46
wdhberkes, it is huge.. but when loaded.. it can be quite fast though..12:46
berkeseven compared to microsoft office it performs horrible. The reasons are obvious for a developer/tech savvy person. But the end user gets to see a bloated system12:47
TengkSAPLEASE will someone help me install frostwire???? **12:47
orhs_welp, Do you have any bluetooth programs installed ?12:47
kestastakes me 15 secs to open a doc in openoffice on a 1.5celeron 512mb ram12:47
mweberkes: it took 15 secs here. but then again I run kde and oowriter uses gtk so it needs to load that too. I might have been faster in gnome. but yes oo is big12:47
ompaulberkes, discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please12:47
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berkesompaul: sorry :)12:47
welporhs_, i'm installing ubuntu right now12:47
ompaulTengkSA, give it a few minutes before you ask again - maybe that no one knows12:48
kestasin the benchmarks oo.o performs better than MS office, but lower in features12:48
wdhTengkSA, obviously.. noone even remotely seems to know what frostwire is :)12:48
docta_vompaul: wouldn't it just be sudo apt-get install frostwire12:48
tHomEhi i cant mount my windows partition mount say no volume but it still there ?12:48
orhs_oh. when it its finished and ubuntu is on the run. Go to synaptic and search for bluetooth there is a few applications u should install for activateing bluetooth on your machine12:48
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ompauldocta_v, I don't even know what it is where it is from12:48
wdhTengkSA, ok.. "FrostWire is an absolutely free Gnutella P2P application"12:48
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berkesgetting back on topic :) you can install 2.0 on ubuntu, frans-th, but unless you experience instability, there is hardly any reason to do so. the version in ubuntu and the released 2.0 hardly differ.12:49
mahangu_inkscape asks me for a command to when i say to print12:49
wdhTengkSA, i recommend install "gtk-gnutella" from "System" -> "Administration" -> "synaptic package manager"12:49
mahangu_where would my printer be? (path)12:49
ompauldocta_v, it does not exist in main, universe, multiverse W: Unable to locate package frostwire12:49
docta_vah...must be junkie then12:50
Katie^how do i run mplayer with a gui12:50
TengkSAwdh, but what if i wanna use frostwire12:50
Kindredthe version of gtk-gnutella in the repos wont work, it was upgraded a week or two ago12:50
cafuego!find frostwire12:50
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wdhKatie^, gmplayer12:50
Katie^thanks.12:50
pigor_hello .. i have made a fresh installation of my system and now cannot recover my evolution address book. i have copied ".evolution", eMails are there but now addresses :-( can anyone help me please?12:50
mahangu_would my printer be in /dev/ ?12:50
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frans-thberkes, can explain more easily, is that mean, install ubuntu with oo 2.0 is not recommended?12:50
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ompaulTengkSA, you can, but you have to support yourself, you should also be aware that installing random packages can break stuff12:51
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Katie^Also, im trying to play a matroska file, and I've downloaded the codecs, should it work fine? or what?12:51
berkesfrans-th: no, there is nothing withholding you from doing so. But it is unnessecary to go trough all that hassle.12:51
ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'frostwire' returned no results.12:51
wdhTengkSA, obviously, we are not going to help you break your system :)12:51
cafuegofrans-th: OO.o2 comes _with_ Ubuntu.12:51
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cafuegoTengkSA: Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall12:51
berkesfrans-th: you will no longer have a vanilla ubuntu, and so, while you will not feel, see, hear any difference12:51
LinuturkI have a amd 64 bit processor. Should I install the i86 for better driver support, or would it be safe to install the 64 bit version? Would I get better performance out of the 64-bit version?12:52
ompaulfrans-th, it is not built for breezy nor will it be, but you then have to manage any issues yourself you loose the security of the distro, as in others managing problems they become yours do this with 10 packages and you now have to watch a lot of stuff12:52
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cafuegoLinuturk: Will you need flash, java and video (movie) support?12:52
Katie^This is really starting to piss me off.12:52
Linuturkcafuego, probably12:52
cafuegoLinuturk: Then i386 is the way to go.12:53
ompaulKatie^, language please12:53
wdhfrans-th, upgrade to dapper next april.. it will have OOo 2.0 by then :)12:53
Linuturkcafuego, will I notice a big performance loss?12:53
ompaulLinuturk, if you notice it you will be sharpest person on planet earth12:53
cafuegoLinuturk: Not on normal desktop work, no. Compiling will be slower, but unless you compile a LOT that shouldn't be an issue.12:53
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wdhpigor_, try "sudo chown -R YOURUSERNAMEHERE ~/.evolution"12:54
kestasI want 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb' to run automatically at bootup, but I'm not sure how to do it cleanly12:54
Linuturkcool, sounds good, thanks fellas12:54
kestasI could always hack some rc file but I'd rather do it right12:54
frans-thwdh, in our experience here, in fedora, we never love to upgrade the OS, except bugs that annoyin gour work12:54
cafuegoLinuturk: make sure /home is on a *separate* partition, then you can upgrade the system to 64bit at any time without losing any data.12:54
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frans-thwdh, but i am think of ugrade my breezy to dapper :P12:54
LinuturkUbuntu install takes about 3 gigs, right?12:54
cafuegoLinuturk: around 2GB for the base desktop system12:55
frans-thLinuturk, the problem no in 3 gigs, but we have to coonnect to the net, and indonesian internet slow12:55
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Katie^okay12:55
Katie^so i got it working12:55
Katie^but there's no sound12:55
Katie^ideas?12:55
cafuego!return12:56
ubotucafuego: I don't know, could you explain it?12:56
welpi bet everyone my sound will not work out of the box12:56
cafuego!enter12:56
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:56
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Linuturkcafuego, well, it's good to have that padding there. Will packages be installed on the base system partition or the user file partiton?12:56
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cafuegoLinuturk: no software is ever installed to /home12:56
Linuturkcafuego, so tis better to have the base system larger for any apps I want to install12:56
cafuegoLinuturk: So if you need 64bit, or wwant to change when it's mature, simply format the system partition, install, then re-mount /home.12:57
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cafuegoLinuturk: Yeah, probably 5GB just in case.12:57
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Linuturkokie dokie12:57
cafuegoLinuturk: Most stuff goes into /usr (3GB on my machine)12:57
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Caiushey, is there an ubuntu ppc channel or do I ask in here?12:58
cafuegoCaius: just ask12:58
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cafuego(There's only 4 people on #ubuntu-ppc)12:59
Caiusmy machine is old and the hardware clock doesn't keep the time anymore, so the boot hangs on "setting system clock using hardware clock as reference" for a while12:59
Caiusanyway to disable that?12:59
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Caiusor skip it12:59
cafuegoCaius: Yep, there is.12:59
berkesbah, stupid me. I just opened .bash_profile and found that the ubuntu default for local, userspace bin is indeed ~/bin12:59
Morrowynhttp://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?do=member&imageuser=6433612:59
Caiuscafuego: how!12:59
Morrowynhuman theme wallpaper01:00
Morrowyni created this morning01:00
cafuegoCaius: sudo $EDITOR /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh01:00
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Caiuscafuego: its still hung on setting the clock on bootup atm :(01:00
cafuegoCaius: Under "HWCLOCKPARS" insert "exit 0" on a line by itself, without quotes.01:00
Morrowynim off, cya01:00
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CaiusMorrowyn: cya01:01
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kestasI want 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb' to run automatically at bootup, but I'm not sure how to do it cleanly01:02
kestasI could always hack some rc file but I'd rather do it right01:02
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cafuegokestas: sudo $EDITOR /etc/default/hdparm01:03
cafuego'defaults' even, I think01:03
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Caiuscafuego: its still stuck there :(01:03
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cafuegoAdd in the disk and add in the parm. You may want -c1 and -u1 too.01:03
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cafuegoCaius: ctrl-c it01:03
Caiuscafuego: no effect01:03
cafuegoBenC: How's the new laptop? :-)01:03
cafuegoCaius: ctrl-\ ?01:04
Caiuscafuego: rebooted it, waiting for it to hang now01:04
Caiuscafuego: nope01:05
cafuegoCaius: boot it with 'init=/bin/bash' as params to the kernel.01:05
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Caiuscafuego: pardon?01:05
cafuegoCaius: That'll teach it!01:05
CaiusLinux init=/bin/bash01:05
Caius?01:05
cafuegoCaius: When you get the yaboot prompt, 'Linux init=/bin/bash'01:05
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Storkif my game is an .iso file how do i install it?01:05
Caiuscafuego: OK01:05
cafuegoCaius: Yeah, that'll make it run a shell instead of the init scripts.01:05
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Caiuscafuego: I'm at home in bash :)01:06
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cafuegoCaius: Now edit /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh01:06
pmhello dupki :)01:06
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cafuegoCaius: just insert 'exit 0' at the top of the file, that'll make it just exit,.01:07
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cafuegoyou!@01:07
pmhello cafuego :)01:07
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pmdupku :)01:07
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Caiuscafuego: k01:07
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TTilusblack-on-white xterm annoys me, how can i make it white-on-black?  (reverse video, xterm -rv or xterm -r does not help)01:08
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pmhello TTilus :)01:08
cafuegoTTilus: xterm -fg white -bg black01:08
nailheadpm jestes z polski :] ?01:08
Storkif my game is an .iso file how do i install it?01:08
cafuegoTTilus: Consider rxvt, much nicer too.01:08
pmsorry?01:08
cafuego!pl01:08
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl01:08
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TTiluscafuego: thanx that helped01:09
TTiluspm: hello01:09
TTiluscafuego: any idea why -rv does not swap colors, it used to work?01:10
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nailheadi have  question how to install xmms ,i dont know how to do this becouse i have only one day this system01:11
nailheadso i dont know01:11
TTiluscafuego: what are the "much nicer" things of rxvt?  (convince me!)01:11
pmis there a version of kubuntu with kde 3.5?01:11
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ccookenailhead: Click System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager01:11
ccookenailhead: then, search for xmms01:11
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nailheadi try dpkg -i xmms.1.2.10 and nothing01:12
pmif so, where can i find it?01:12
Caiuscafuego: just says "can't open file for writing: read only file system"01:12
nailheadccooke i try this one but nothing happends01:12
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Caiusthink I might reinstall it01:12
ccookenailhead: double click on it when it appears in the list, say "okay" to any prompts about additional packages, and click the "Apply" button.01:12
TTilusnailhead: or $ sudo aptitude install xmms01:12
nailheadok i will try01:13
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TTilusnailhead: take a quick look on synaptic help, you'll learn alot01:13
nailheadwait a one moment :)01:13
pmxmms has ugly fonts01:13
mwepm: yeah01:14
Toma-pm: bmp has nice fonts, and is exactly the same as xmms01:14
pmyou have to work a little to get things better01:14
pmToma-, amarok rules! :)01:15
Toma-bah, not in gnome :D01:15
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manuellordalguem usa o ubuntu em portugal aqui?01:15
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TTiluspm: depends mostly on the definition of "better"01:15
Storkgnomebaker gives me this whenever i try to burn an iso image onto my cd: ":-( /dev/hdb: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"01:16
pmmuch more advanced???01:16
TTilus!pt01:17
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.01:17
pmhave you heard about songbird?01:17
TTilusmanuellord: does that help?01:17
pmsounds interesting01:17
manuellordthank you ttilus01:17
Storkgnomebaker gives me this whenever i try to burn an iso image onto my cd: ":-( /dev/hdb: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"? it's a 4.7gb dvd-rw.. do i need just a dvd-r ?01:18
TTilusmanuellord: yre wellcome01:18
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TTilusStork: is your drive recognized to handle dvd-rw01:18
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Storkin the device settings it doesn't recognise the drive as being able to write anything01:19
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Storknot even CD-R01:19
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TTilusStork: so, thats the problem01:19
TTilusStork: somehow ubuntu thinks you drive is not capable of doing that01:19
TTilusStork: is it?01:20
TTilusStork: (just to make sure)01:20
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Caiushttp://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/103.html01:20
Storki should think so, how can i check?01:21
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TTilusStork: have you been able to write anything with it ever?01:21
sdaserverQuestion: What's the best way to make my ubuntu machine a dedicated server for Internet use on my network?01:21
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TTilussdaserver: what you want it to do?01:22
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TTilussdaserver: "dedicated server for Internet use" is rather vagye01:22
TTiluss/vagye/vague/01:22
StorkTTilus, nope01:23
sdaserverTTilus: I want it to stand as my Internet router, i guess01:23
sdaserverTTilus: I mean Internet gateway01:23
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sdaserverTTilus: And then it should also work as my DHCP server01:24
TTilusStork: try $ hdparm -i /dev/[cdromdev] 01:24
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TTilusStork: what does it say the 'Model' is?01:25
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TTilussdaserver: dhcp server for "internal" network and NAT-router?01:25
Qzxchow many ubuntu versions are there i mean is there stable+ unstable or only 5.04 and etc ..01:25
TTilussdaserver: install base system, configure networking to route and do NAT01:26
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deltaHi.01:27
sdaserverTTilus: I'm a newbie in Linux (3 days old), and i'm still lost at how to configure networking services01:27
TTilussdaserver: for nat your /etc/network/interfaces should have "up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o [externalinterface]  -j MASQUERADE" under you internal interface conf01:27
Qzxcps anyone here uses Iwiz ? im seraching from to donload it ...01:27
deltaI'm trying to burn a dvd-rw with gnombaker but it freezes. Any other application?01:27
Qzxcwhere01:27
TTilussdaserver: you either edit text files under /etc/network or use gui tools provided01:28
sdaserverTTilus: The last thing I was trying was webmin, but i can't login01:28
docta_vdelta: there's a version of nero for linux...i think there's a free trial version01:28
TTilussdaserver: i prefer editing text-files, its simple01:28
deltadocta_v, I'd prefer a GPL-like program. Any suggestion?01:29
deltadocta_v, I mean GPL free :)01:29
sdaserverTTilus: I could try that, text-file editing01:29
TTilussdaserver: i think you should start from linux tutorial before running into configuring router, ok?01:29
sdaserverTTilus: yeah, i'm researching online for more info01:29
sdaserverTTilus: I am getting what you mean though coz i ran across the iptables thing sometime yesterday01:30
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TTilussdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html01:31
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deltaAny pb with dvd+rw maybe?01:32
TTilussdaserver: and keep in mind that ubuntu is a kind of debian01:32
docta_vdelta: tried k3b?01:32
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deltadocta_v, not yet. But I will if you recommend it.01:32
sdaserverthanks TTilus01:32
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TTilussdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/users-guide.en.html01:33
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sdaserverTTilus: Thanks for the links. i've been looking for stuff like this for a long time01:38
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takedownhi there01:38
wdhcan anyone tell me how to get the usplash working on breezy? i upgraded my system from hoary earlier.. but the usplash seems to fail on a message like: "insmod: cant read /lib/modules/xxxx/vesafb.ko" Anything i can do about this, apart from a reinstall of breezy?01:39
takedowni have a little question01:39
TTilussdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/#manuals is the place for comprehensive manuals and tutorials01:39
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geert_are your permission on vesafb correct?01:40
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takedowni installed cedega on chroot on my amd64 breezy, updated to last version, but cedega dont see video drivers. How i can fix it? (sry for my terrible english)01:40
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takedowni try to run a game, but game run very slowly01:41
geert_takedown, do you have direct rendering enabled?01:41
takedownyes01:41
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geert_and you are using binary drivers?01:42
takedowntakedown@breezy:~$ glxinfo |grep direct01:42
takedowndirect rendering: Yes01:42
takedownyep01:42
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takedowni installed drivers with instruction on ubuntu forum01:42
geert_hmm... guess that is as far as my knowledge of cedega goes....01:43
geert_I don't use it, coz I hate to pay01:43
geert_or use CVS versions...01:43
geert_sorry01:43
takedownso ok, may be someone else can help me?01:44
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TTilustakedown: dunno nothing about cadega, but does the chroot env have required devices ( say /dev/dri/* ) available?01:44
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takedownwait a minute, i go to see this01:44
TTilus(just guessing, if the prog inside chroot wants to use dri or like)01:44
Caiushow can I enter a blank password or set ubuntu to auto login to my account?01:44
Caiusis either possible?01:45
geert_try gdm configure program01:45
TTilusCaius: autologin is gdm conf01:45
Caiusk01:45
TTilusiirc01:45
takedowni have card0 in /dev/dri on chroot01:45
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abellihi there01:45
geert_hello01:45
TTilustakedown: ok, then permissions?01:45
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takedowncrw-rw-rw-  1 root root 226, 0 2006-01-07 07:28 /dev/dri/card001:46
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Zugotif i have kubuntu installed, and i want the regular ubuntu as well, all i have to do is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, correct?01:46
geert_just, some side note, but have you tried a native linux 3d game?01:46
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geert_Zugot, that is correct... however, you'll get a real populated menu01:47
takedownyes i have a native ut2004 and it works well...01:47
Zugotgeert_: i can handle that...01:47
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Zugoti wanna use kde, my girlfriend prefers gnome01:47
vesHas anybody got any idea what the "System terminal font" is?01:47
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Zugotplus, i have the flu today, so if i screw it up, i have nothing else to do01:48
abelliis there any good guide for converting divx' into dvds'?01:48
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geert_You can handle it...01:48
takedownTTilus: so, what do u think?01:48
welphow can i install fluxbox? what do i need to do?01:48
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vesabelli: check out http://fredrik.hubbe.net/hacks/mkdvd.html01:48
takedownsudo apt-get install fluxbox01:48
geert_btw Zugot, you can use smeg to hide those Kde entries for your girlfriend...01:49
abellives: thks01:49
Kindred!fluxbox01:49
ubotuwell, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net01:49
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welpthankee!01:50
Katie^how can I use Xine to play a movie?01:50
takedownxine filename.avi01:50
Katie^http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7gq.png01:50
geert_Have you got your win32 codecs installed?01:50
takedownor just type xine in console01:50
bryanlapt-get install gnome-desktop fineshed running in 3 minutes... i love my internet connection01:50
Katie^cmd not fond01:50
geert_sudo apt-get install xine xine-ui01:51
Katie^someone saids omething about using synaptic01:51
abellives: something more user-friendly?01:51
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abellives: im talking about GUIs01:51
googlahhi ya guys01:51
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takedownguys, who can help me with my cedega problem?01:51
geert_hi01:51
googlahhi geert_01:51
Katie^do I need to do something to the source list?01:51
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Katie^http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7gq.png01:51
bryanlabelli: have a look at qdvdauthor01:52
Katie^Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:52
geert_universe and multiverse enabled?01:52
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vesabelli: I'm not entirely sure about that, maybe some guides over at doom9.org might help but I'm not sure if they're all windows programs mentioned.01:52
TTilustakedown: dont really know, that was my 5 cents  :)01:52
googlahKatie^, you probably need to add another respitory01:52
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takedowndamn01:52
geert_about that cedega problem... i really don't know01:52
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geert_maybe check your logs for info01:53
geert_?01:53
bryanloh the flu sucks so bad..01:53
Katie^how do i do that01:53
googlahjust a quick question everybody... how do i mark/select an entire text in pico or another texteditor?01:53
geert_gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:54
sdaserveris there a way to access the terminal faster in ubuntu?01:54
geert_and remove the # before the lines with universe in them01:54
takedownwhat logs i need? just i see a my problem and i dont need to looks to logs...01:54
googlahKatie^, etc/apt/sources.list  and uncomment universe and multiverse.01:54
takedownwhat do u think? install fglrx in chroot can help to me?01:54
Storkhow can i mount an .iso image without having to burn it to a dvd?01:54
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geert_mostly x.org complains on a situation it can't use drm01:55
takedownStork: mount -o loop01:55
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googlahnoone knows the answer on my question? 8)01:55
Storktakedown, hm? what's the loop?01:55
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY01:55
Perversushi all01:55
googlahhi Perversus01:55
googlahwhat's up? :)01:55
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takedownStork: its a mount option01:55
takedownStork: see man mount for more info01:56
Storkokay01:56
geert_takedown, it is in /var/log/x.org.... check for errors and warnings01:56
Katie^how do i uncomment them01:56
Katie^lol01:56
geert_hi Perversus01:56
Storktakedown, if the thing i was trying to mount was a game designed for windows, it probably wouldn't do anything if i just mounted it, right? i'd have to use it thriough wine?01:56
Perversus:)01:56
geert_just remove the #01:56
Seveas!goodmorning01:56
ubotuGooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)01:56
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googlah:)01:57
bryanlthe switch from kubuntu to ubuntu went well01:57
bryanland quick01:57
googlahgreat01:57
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geert_Now finally free of QT01:57
bryanlno... i like qt.. as a programmer, it is easier and more well thought out than gtk01:57
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Perversus1 question, I Have ubuntu but I want Kubuntu,Can you help me?01:58
bryanli need to figure out why nspluginviewer/firefox were taking up 600MB of real memory between them this morning01:58
googlahi also wanna know how to switch to kubuntu01:58
binaPerversus: I think you just need to do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:59
geert_It probably is... bryanl, never tried it, but they all say it...01:59
Perversusbina thank you01:59
Madeyeany deb for php5.1.1?01:59
takedownStork: loop option can mount games images like mds,iso etc.01:59
binaPerversus, apt-cache search <package> looks for packages that you can install01:59
concept10bryanl, becuase firefox has massive mem leaks01:59
Perversus:)01:59
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geert_takedown, found anything in your logs?02:00
takedownnope02:00
googlahbina, yeah, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but there is another package called kubuntu as well. what is the difference?02:00
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abellibryanl: thank you.02:00
abellives: thank you.02:00
tafsenAnyone here that know rox?02:00
bryanlPerversus, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will do what you want02:00
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binagooglah: I'm not sure, i dont have kubuntu on its own in my lists.  Maybe it installs everything kubuntu-ish02:01
apinatorhi02:01
CodenameKTtafsen: rox-filer?02:01
bryanlanyone here using gaim 2.0?02:01
SweetestSavagebryanl, sorry mine is 1.5.02:02
ROBOdguys ... i have ubuntu 5.10 ... and i got samba ...looking with ethereal i noticed my computer communicates with the Windows server of my LAN ... querying for /Trash-robod/ .... of course the windows server always replies "no such name"02:02
CodenameKTbryan1: I am using gaim on occasion02:02
geert_Wish me luck people, going dapper... let's hope that I don't need a reinstall... be back in a minute02:02
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ROBOdbut Linux ... continues to query .... very very often02:02
tafsenCodenameKT, YEAH02:02
ROBOdit's almost like a flood02:02
CodenameKTbryan1: some reason centericq is messed up so i gotta02:02
bryanli use gaim all the time02:02
ROBOdhow to stop it?02:02
bryanlwe have a jabber server at work that everyone uses instead of talking of the phone02:02
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CodenameKTtafsen: What's your question. Even tho I don't know much about it02:02
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apinatorI'm little bit of lost... I just installd my first linux... Could some one tell me is in ubunt some kind of RPM program? =D02:03
CodenameKTbryan1: u had a question?02:03
drpatateHi, I can't find a repository with WMII 3 ? anyone knows one or should I install the tar.gz package ???02:03
bryanlCodenameKT, nope... just curious02:03
CodenameKTapinator: ubuntu is a flavor of linux it uses the deb package system02:03
tafsenCodenameKT, Well, Im using OpenBox in gnome, and I have turned of Nautilus drawing desktop.  Now I need rox to have icons on my desktop02:04
Katie^ALL the universe and multiverse ones?02:04
CodenameKTbryan1: oh ok. well the only reason i don't use gaim is because i like the one a transparent term running centericq looks and it has smaller footprint on mem02:04
CodenameKTtafsen: that would be the pinboard option i believe02:05
tafsenCodenameKT, yes02:05
CodenameKT!rox-filer02:05
ubotuCodenameKT: I don't know, could you explain it?02:05
tafsenCodenameKT, How do i use it?02:05
tafsen!rox02:05
ubotutafsen: Are you on ritalin?02:05
CodenameKTlol02:05
CodenameKTbe nice bot02:05
tafsenhaha02:05
bryanlCodenameKT, ah... i see.  all my boxes have at least 1GB of memory, and my laptop has 2GB, so i don't even think about the memory02:05
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CodenameKTbryan1: well, i have a gig but i usually like to keep 700mb free02:06
wdhafter installing xubuntu-desktop, the usplash image is changed to one specific to xubuntu. I would like it to be the ubuntu one.. any ideas on how to change it??02:06
bryanlCodenameKT, i wish i could do that, but its hard with eclipse and mysql running all day :)02:06
CodenameKTbryan1: understandable02:07
pmi've got one question - how to compile a new kernel so as to be able to install nvidia drivers from repositories, not using installer from www.nvidia.com?02:07
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CodenameKTtafsen: I can't give u a direct answer without doing a bunch of research but it looks like there is a good doc here at rox.sourceforge.net/manual/manual/manual.html02:08
tafsenCodenameKT, Ok, I take look. Thx02:08
CodenameKTbryan1: u said u use openbox02:09
bryanlanyone here use subversion?02:09
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CodenameKTtafsen: no prob sorry i couldn't be more helpful02:09
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bryanlCodenameKT, no.. i'm using not using openbox.. i don't really care for the minimallist windowmanagers02:10
CodenameKTbryan1: so let me guess u use kde\02:10
CodenameKTbryan1: biggest bloat of em all02:10
tafsenCodenameKT, ;) but the url you gave didn't work02:10
bryanlCodenameKT, yep...02:10
bryanlCodenameKT, kde is cool....   fish:// is worth the bloat02:10
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CodenameKTtafsen: do a search in google for rox-filer pinboard and second link02:11
bryanli'm in gnome right now02:11
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CodenameKTbryan1: gnome is still way better than kde imho02:11
bryanlCodenameKT, to each his own...02:11
bryanli like windows too sometimes02:11
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CodenameKTbryan1: affirmative. lovely how we get a choice with linux no?02:12
bryanl:)02:12
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CodenameKTbryan1: I am a gamer on my off period in which i tend to hafta boot up to windows02:12
CodenameKTbryan1: stinks alot of the cracks for games arn't linux based ;o)02:12
bryanli only game on the consoles now... xbox 360 is enough for me02:12
m0waxCodenameKT: I would ask you what it is you like about Gnome, cos I am interested.  But I feel it might start a flame war with other people in the room :)02:13
bryanlplus.. i have way too much code to right nowadays to game at all02:13
pmDid anyone of you compile kernel on Ubuntu?02:13
m0waxI'll refrain ;)02:13
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bryanli like evolution or kmail... kmail keeps on screwing up my imap mailbox02:13
bryanler i like evolution over kmail02:13
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CodenameKTm0wax: It's no real evidence anyways I just like the look feel and once again less memory than kde. It seems to run smoother and less useless aps installed02:14
CodenameKTbryan1: thunderbird?02:14
bryanlthunderbird just doesn't do it for me02:14
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gnomefreakthanks for reminding me :)002:15
bryanlits kinda cool though02:15
CodenameKTbryan1: Imma go cry now02:15
CodenameKTgnomefreak: about what eh chap?02:15
gnomefreakthunderbird i forgot to install it yesterday02:15
m0waxOk, I want to download ubuntu onto a flash key and install it from there........is that possible?  And if so how?02:16
gnomefreak!install02:16
ubotufrom memory, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation02:16
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gnomefreakthere are the ways to install it02:16
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m0waxgnomefreak: thanks02:17
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loretoi need to find sb.ko module on breezy to install an old sb sound card, but i can't find that module, is avalaible for breezy?02:17
ompaulloreto, on my breezy box this exists /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko02:18
googlah500kb/sec from the repositories. not too bad.02:19
bryanlgooglah thats what i'm ge tting02:19
ompaulgooglah, 5meg hmm02:19
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bryanltime to install jboss02:19
CodenameKTompaul: 5 meg is very roughly 5000kb02:19
loretoompaul, do i need to install an special package?02:20
loretoloreto@loreto:~$ sudo modprobe sb02:20
loretoPassword:02:20
loretoFATAL: Error inserting sb (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko): No such device02:20
CodenameKTloreto: oh the pw must be wrong what did u put again02:20
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bryanlat the most with my connection, i should be able to download 750Kb/s02:20
CodenameKT:o)02:20
ompaulCodenameKT,  funny that02:21
bryanlmy hosted server has a 10MB/s connection...02:21
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ompaulFetched 48.2MB in 11s (4274kB/s)02:21
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googlahgdm or kdm ?!02:22
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googlahjust installed kubuntu-desktop.02:22
ompaulgooglah, then kdm02:22
googlahhad gnome before.02:22
maskdlol... i followed the xubuntu desktop guide, and im maxed out at 640x48002:22
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drpatateI try to install a .tar.gz package but I need the binary "cc" in what package does it comes in ??02:23
ompaulloreto_away, it was just there when I installed and I use a not very new sb card02:23
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maskdit's fun..02:23
bryanli love java web start02:23
ompauldrpatate, before you do that what package ae you trying to install?02:23
googlahompaul; roger... i chosed kdm.02:23
googlahthanks.02:24
drpatateompaul: WMII latest version02:24
cleodrpatate: install build-essential02:24
ompauldrpatate, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:24
drpatatethanks guys, I not that noob, I thinkg02:25
gnomefreakthere is no such thing as "just install" a tar :((02:25
gnomefreaki really wish there was02:25
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maskdhey just wanted to ask, whats the cmd to reconfigure x.org?02:25
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pigorping02:26
googlahkubuntu-desktop is now installed. when the login-screen shows up, can i choose wether i'm gonna use gnore or kde?02:26
TengkSAHow does one make a shortcut?02:27
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gnomefreakgooglah, yes go to sessions and choose kde02:27
bpucciomaskd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:27
googlahgnomefreak, roger. but i suppose you don't like kde at all? :)02:27
maskdthanks bpuccio02:27
gnomefreaki use it googlah02:27
pigorTengkSA: in terminal with "ln -s <target> <shortcutname>"02:27
googlahgnomefreak, even if you're a gnomefreak? cool :)02:28
gnomefreakgooglah, there are some apps that i like better on kde than gnome02:28
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pigoris there a german speaking ubuntu channel?02:28
gnomefreak!gr02:28
ubotuElate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi02:28
gnomefreakgod im hopping that german02:29
Kindredwouldn't that be greek02:29
TengkSApigor, would it be under command02:29
CodenameKTlol02:29
Kindredyou might want de02:29
gnomefreak!de02:29
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de02:29
gnomefreakthat is it ty Kindred02:29
Kindredhehe :)02:29
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TengkSA!shortcut02:30
ubotushortcut is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7956002:30
pmproblem with kernel compilation? ] 02:30
pigorTengkSA: what do you mean with "under command" ?02:30
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pmcould anyone help me?02:30
TengkSApigor can i talk to u in prvt please02:30
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maskdahhh, much better02:30
TengkSApigor, i right click on desktop and click create launcher02:30
TengkSAfill in name: My Documents02:30
TengkSAGeneric name: My documents02:30
TengkSACommand: ?????????02:31
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pigorTengkSA: then type the name of the programm in the command field02:31
TengkSAits a directory02:32
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googlahgonna make a try of kde now. see ya later guys.02:32
TengkSApigor,  its a directory02:32
welp_when i try to do: apt-get install fluxbox, i get the following error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory), i have uncommented the universe lines in sources.list02:33
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welp_how doi fix this?02:33
maskdwelp_, you need to do sudo apt-get update firsy02:33
welp_*do i02:33
pigorTengkSA: ok then open nautilus, go to directory, right click directory, choose shortcut and drag new shortcut on desktop02:33
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TengkSAhow does one open nautilus02:34
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TengkSAokay its open02:34
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pigorTengkSA: now go to one diretctory above the directory you wanna shortcut02:34
welpmaskd, ok, thanks02:35
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tafsenCan I use desktop icons when I use OpenBOX?02:35
pigorTengkSA: then right click directory and make a shortcut02:35
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Techie_dudewhat repository do i need to add to download sun-j2re1.5?02:35
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CodenameKTtafsen: try fbdesk02:35
pigorTengkSA: the new shortcut will appear in nautilus and you can drag it with your mouse on your desktop02:36
TengkSApigor, im sorry but i dont understand ur explanation02:36
TengkSAGO TO DIRECTORY? is that something i must click on or must i go to the directory that i wanna shortcut02:36
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TengkSApigor, ?02:36
alexissofthi02:36
tafsenCodenameKT, ok. Because rox disabled the openbox menu02:36
pigorTengkSA: you must go to the directory you wanna shortcut02:37
CodenameKTtafsen: if u r just looking for desktop icons i think it is best to not use rox02:37
TengkSAand now how do i right click directory choose shortcut02:37
TengkSApigor02:37
pigorTengkSA: you are there? then go one directory above02:37
TengkSAyes02:37
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pigorTengkSA: and right-click on your directory you wanna shortcut02:38
KuolioTengkSA: drag the folder to your desktop holding down your mice _midle_ button02:38
TengkSApigor, yes02:38
TengkSAKuolio, that was easy :P02:38
TengkSAthanks Kuolio and pigor02:38
pigorTengkSA: there you can choose "shortcut" (perhaps it calls a little bit different -- i have a german version)02:38
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TengkSApigor, it is02:39
loreto_awayompaul, instaler didn't recognize the sound card, on redhat i got sndconfig but on ubuntu it isn't02:39
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ompaulloreto_away, if you did "/away some message" instead of changing your nick then you would generate a lot less traffic, when you return you just /away and it kills the away message02:40
tafsenCodenameKT, But rox took over the desktop.  And when I tried to open the icons on the desk, it used its own filebrowser02:40
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Techie_dudewhat repository is it that has sun-j2re1.502:40
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gnomefreakthe java repo02:41
Linuturkfinished my ubuntu install02:41
Linuturki just wish ndiswrapper was on the cd02:41
Techie_dudejava repo?02:41
Linuturk:(02:41
CodenameKTtafsen: my poitn exactly. rox has a bunch of different stuff. it is filebrowser pic browser icon maker launch menu blah blah02:41
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gnomefreakTechie_dude, most people (smart people) use the java page to get java02:42
gnomefreak!java02:42
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:42
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CodenameKTtafsen: I believe in one app for one use02:43
tafsenCodenameKT, but I wan't to use Nautlius02:43
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Techie_dudethankyou02:44
Techie_dudebye bye02:44
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CodenameKTtafsen: i hear u. so instead of using rox for icons use fbdesk. fbdesk does nothing but icons02:44
CodenameKTand works well with *box or gnome02:44
tafsenCodenameKT, ok. Thx :)02:44
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CodenameKTtafsen: i can't remember but doesn't nautilus have a way to do icons02:45
afiefwhat distos will work on a 200MHz, 32 MB ram PC?02:45
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CodenameKTafief: dsl linux but ur in wrong chan02:46
seicherlbobmorning everybody! anybody knows about the magic file?? mine is empty but i need it for filerecovery02:46
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Kindredyeah i'd probably try dsl..02:46
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afiefCodenameKT: Thanks, but at #Linux they are all asleep it seems. won't do it again;)02:47
MalachiHas anyone noticed problems with mplayer's audio synchronization when playing DVDs?02:47
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mlotsHow do I disable the "is identified to services" messages?02:47
tafsenCodenameKT, Without drawing the desktop?02:47
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ompaulafief, you could try xubuntu02:48
orhs_karandir02:48
seicherlbobafief: I have debian on a P2, 233 MHz, don't know the ram02:49
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CodenameKTafief: np it is true xubuntu is possible02:49
lsuactiafnerafief : slackware, it doesnt boot with a gui, freebsd or netbsd should also be nice for it02:49
seicherlbobafief: depends on whau you want to run on it. a fileserver? a firewall? then debian would do it.02:49
lsuactiafnerubuntu has too many things it runs by default, might slow the system down02:49
lsuactiafnerwould make a nice firewall02:49
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gnomefreakseicherlbob, your running ubuntu my guess is that you have atleast 128mb ram02:50
lsuactiafneri run slackware on a p166 with 42mb of broken ram as a firewall02:50
seicherlbobgnomefreak: morning my friend.On my fileserver, i got debian.02:50
gnomefreakahhhhh and good moring02:50
gnomefreakmorning02:50
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afiefseicherlbob: small games, some word processor(i'm not piky)02:51
seicherlbobgnomefreak: still not finished with the recover stuff.... need a magic file (/etc/magic) but mine is empty02:51
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neymac_did anybody try fvwm-crystal-3.0 and get it working?02:52
seicherlbobafief: you could give it a try. I don't know how good the xserver will run on that machine. but aslong as you don't use any features02:52
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Diabloa69sup guys02:53
phanterHey how will the next ubuntu version be named?02:53
Diabloa69:)02:53
mwephanter: dapper02:54
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mwephanter: 6.0402:54
Diabloa69has anybody gotten gyach to work with webcam on ubuntu02:54
phantercould I use dapper for testing already?02:54
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Diabloa69phanter: yes02:55
mwephanter: If you don't mind some things being broken02:55
Diabloa69phanter: I have a image of it if you want it02:55
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mwephanter: Also you should know how to fix your own problems02:55
phanterI wan tit yes, but is there not some way that I can just change the depositories?02:55
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imc_g'Day everyone. Got breezy on a box with a sony memorystick reader which worked under hoary and not now. Put card in and nothing in /var/log/messages or lspci. Anyone?02:56
Seveas!dapper02:56
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.02:56
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ubuntudo somebody know if i can download skype and run it with ubuntu Live-Cd?02:56
joshisscifiHey everybody!02:56
Seveas!skype02:56
ubotuskype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/02:56
Diabloa69sup josh02:56
joshisscifitrying to get this stupid wireless working properly02:56
mwephanter: sudo sed -i 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list has worked for people with varied success02:56
joshisscifiI've got the ndiswrapper loaded, and shows that the hardware is present02:56
Diabloa69can't help you there man :(02:56
joshisscifibut it won't show up02:56
Diabloa69you know man02:56
Diabloa69in my own personal experience of dealing with that type of bullshit02:57
Diabloa6999% of the time I had to reboot my cable modem02:57
Diabloa69:))02:57
joshisscifilol02:57
Diabloa69might wanna try that02:57
mwephanter: if you intend doing anything serious on the machine don't use dapper02:57
phanterDiabloa69, oke, maybe I will go for your image. where can I find it?02:57
joshisscifiwell, when I use ifconfig or even the KWifiManager, neither show the wireless existing02:57
Diabloa69I will copy it from my cd02:57
Diabloa69one sec02:57
Diabloa69you want cd or dvd?02:57
phantermwe, I just want to look into the future... I will keep my breezy running... for sure02:57
mwejoshisscifi: Maybe it's not configured02:58
phanterDiabloa69, cd please02:58
joshisscifimwe, recommendation?02:58
Diabloa69ok one min man02:58
mwephanter: great. in that case go ahead02:58
mwejoshisscifi: Not enough information02:58
joshisscifischool starts back monday, so I have time to play around and get it working02:58
imc_ANyone help on the memorystick problem?02:58
joshisscifimwe, I used ndiswrapper -i with the bcmwl5.inf file, then ndiswrapper -m to load, then ndiswrapper -l shows that the file is there and hardware present02:59
gnomefreakimc_, what about memory stick?02:59
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joshisscifiI used the wrong file the first time, so its showing bcmwl5a.inf as well as bcmwl5.inf, problem there?02:59
joshisscifibut only the bcmwl5.inf file shows the hardware present msg beside it02:59
imc_hi gnomefreak, got a Memory stick reader which worked under hoary but not under breezy; /var/log/messages and lspci shows nothing02:59
mwejoshisscifi: yes. have you checked on the ndiswrapper page that the driver version you're using is supposed to work with ndiswrapper03:00
slartsHi there ... what do I change to persist an ifconfig change?03:00
Diabloa69give me a few phanter..I have to install k3b apparently03:00
slartsin FC it's in /etc/sysconfig/networking-scripts/ ... where is it in Ubuntu?03:00
joshisscifimwe, will check now03:00
phanterDiabloa69, no hurries for me... hahaha, holidays here ;-)03:00
mwejoshisscifi: yeah. lots of drivers break with ndiswrapper so ...03:00
Diabloa69lol k03:01
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joshisscifimwe, I had it working with ubuntu... I'm on kubuntu now03:01
mwejoshisscifi: oh03:01
mwejoshisscifi: that shouldn't change your network setup03:01
Diabloa69man I am glad I switched from fbsd03:01
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imc_sure would like the memory stick to work!03:01
mwejoshisscifi: did you reinstall?03:01
Diabloa69now I don't have to mount my damn drive everytime03:01
slartsSPeaking of network setup, what file do I change to persist an IP address? :>03:02
joshisscifioh yeah, long ago lol03:02
Diabloa69hehe I wonder if I can hack my psp on here03:02
Diabloa69:D03:02
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mwejoshisscifi: ok. and you had ndiswrapper working with the driver you're trying to use now?03:02
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Dasnipa`yes Diabloa69: then you will be a '1337 h4x0r'03:02
imc_gnomefreak, any ideas?03:02
Diabloa69lol you mean cracker :P03:02
Diabloa69I need to get my homebrew back on it03:02
joshisscifimwe, from ndiswrapper wiki: Other: Use bcmwl5.inf. Worked out of the box on Fedora Core 4, kernel 2.6.11.03:03
mwejoshisscifi: ok03:03
Diabloa69I was a moron and upgraded to 2.0 to play the new gta lcs03:03
joshisscifimwe, how do I remove the first entry?03:03
joshisscifimwe, since I have both the inf files listed, I'm thinking that COULD be the problem...03:03
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mwejoshisscifi: man ndiswrapper. look for uninstall03:04
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joshisscifimwe, k03:04
cvt|gnuyearwhat are the chances someone is logging my keystrokes?03:04
joshisscifihaha that was easy03:04
joshisscifi-e does it03:04
mwejoshisscifi: I think it's ndiswrapper -r, but it's been a while so I'm not sure03:04
davidhousehi, i'm looking to install ubuntu and i could do with some device03:04
davidhouse*advice03:04
tafsenCan someone help me with fbdesk?03:04
Diabloa69davidhouse: my advice is, don't have a ati radion 9250 pci card03:05
davidhousei have a 60GB hard disk in my laptop and already have winxp and suse installed on it.03:05
mwejoshisscifi: good03:05
sdaserverhelp: how does one log in to webmin?03:05
davidhouseDiabloa69: ;)03:05
mwejoshisscifi: now does ifconfig show your wireless interface?03:05
joshisscifimwe, nope03:05
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joshisscifieth0 and lo only03:05
s1gnAlI am getting ready to install Ubuntu on another box(Breezy 5.10 install CD) and I don't have a need for X on that box, if I select server at boottime will that prevent that?03:05
mwejoshisscifi: ifconfig -a?03:05
davidhousewill there be room for ubuntu, or should i back everything up and delete my suse partition?03:05
gnomefreakmy advice is to lose suse :)) but thats only because im partial to ubuntu :)03:05
joshisscifimwe, no03:05
joshisscifieth0, lo, sit003:06
Diabloa69davidhouse: I kept on getting this lame ass hotplug error, It was fixed after I took out my graphic card03:06
mwejoshisscifi: what's dmesg|grep -i ndis say?03:06
sdaserverhelp: how does one log in to webmin?03:06
slartsok, so how do I persist an IP address change across reboots?03:06
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mwejoshisscifi: what's sit0?03:06
joshisscifimwe, nothing at all03:06
davidhousegnomefreak, i don't think i'll be using it, i'd just like to keep it around in case i need something i haven't backed up03:06
joshisscifimwe, it says: sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv403:06
mwejoshisscifi: and the module is loaded? lsmod|grep ndis03:06
gnomefreakDiabloa69, dont feel bad i have 2 ati cards one radeon and one that is just a rage pro and neither get 3d both being 3d cards :(03:06
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joshisscifimwe, its not showing up in lsmod03:07
mwejoshisscifi: ok. sudo modprobe ndiswrapper03:07
joshisscifibut if I type ndiswrapper -l, it hows up03:07
joshisscifimwe, done03:07
tafsenCan someone help me with fbdesk?03:07
s1gnAlI am getting ready to install Ubuntu on another box(Breezy 5.10 install CD) and I don't have a need for X on that box, if I select server at boottime will that prevent that?03:07
mwejoshisscifi: ndiswrapper -l shows what drivers are installed, not if the module is loaded. does it show in lsmod now?03:08
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joshisscifimwe, yes it does03:08
mwejoshisscifi: good03:08
gnomefreakati and nvidia where are they made?03:08
mwejoshisscifi: try ifconfig -a now again03:08
joshisscifimwe, shows ndiswrapper and usbcore lol03:08
joshisscifimwe, nope03:08
mwejoshisscifi: and dmesg|grep -i ndis ?03:09
grundohwo i can join different servers?03:09
mwegrundo: /server foobar03:09
grundook03:09
mwegrundo: or /connect03:09
joshisscifi[4295822.220000]  ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_add_one_pci_dev:188): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C0000001)03:09
mwejoshisscifi: that's bad03:09
mwejoshisscifi: probably using an incompatible driver03:10
joshisscifihmm03:10
Diabloa69hey would anybody happen to have a copy of dvddecrypter laying aroudn?03:10
Diabloa69around*03:10
mwejoshisscifi: check ndiswrapper.sf.net and click your way to the compatibility list that shows what driver should be used for your card03:10
s1gnAlwindows version?03:11
Diabloa69yeah03:11
s1gnAlsure I have one03:11
Diabloa69could you send it to me03:11
mwejoshisscifi: that's my advice03:11
Diabloa69I googled for it and no one has it03:11
slartsok, so how do I persist an IP address change across reboots?03:11
joshisscifimwe, I'm using the same one thats listed on there03:11
s1gnAlyou bet, do you use AIM or Yahoo IM?03:11
Diabloa69either or03:11
mwejoshisscifi: the same version?03:11
Diabloa69aim=Diablo696666903:11
joshisscifimwe yup03:11
Diabloa69yahoo=skullzsoldier122103:11
s1gnAlok Ill get on Yahoo, brt03:11
Diabloa69k03:12
mwejoshisscifi: then I don't know why it wont work. maybe try rebooting, though I doubt it will help03:12
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joshisscifimwe, well, might as well give it a shot lol03:12
joshisscifimwe, dells do odd things03:12
mwejoshisscifi: what card is it?03:12
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joshisscifimwe 147003:12
grundoeny good wireless internet cards for laptop?03:13
mwegrundo: yeah prism based ones03:13
grundoprism?03:13
mwegrundo: yes03:13
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grundowhat's that?03:13
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DrAdmin38789hi all !03:14
mwegrundo: a chip03:14
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pigornetgea03:14
grundook03:14
pigornetgear03:14
mwegrundo: prism203:14
joshisscifibrb03:14
joshisscifigonna try the reboot03:14
mwejoshisscifi: ok03:14
cvt|gnuyearscreen looks fuzzy and unfocused. how do fix?03:14
gnomefreaksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:14
grundoreboot or clean your monitor03:14
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Myrtticheck your refresh rate03:14
slartsAm I going to have to whack a monitor and keyboard on this thing just to change the IP address through Gnome?03:14
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grundo:)03:15
mwegrundo: yeah, cleaning the monitor sounds like good advice :)03:15
grundoi bump windows yesterday and sawp ubuntu! this is Grt!!!03:15
gnomefreakhome path is /username/home?03:16
mwegrundo: yeah03:16
mwegnomefreak: no03:16
gnomefreak/home/username/<03:16
mwegnomefreak: yes03:16
gnomefreakty03:16
tafsenIs there an Linux gaming channel or something? Some place that can help me installing wow on Ubuntu?03:16
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grundoi installed libdvdcss2 and it didn't work for totem03:17
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grundowhat i can do?03:17
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mwegrundo: I don't know. it works with kaffeine03:17
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grundoyeah03:17
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grundoit sure do.  .03:18
Pygifreaky: ping03:18
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gnomefreakPygi, pong03:18
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concept10Anyone run ubuntu on PPC?  How do it fare?03:18
Pygifreaky: I need to talk  to you about somethin'03:18
cvt|gnuyeari'm affraid i'm going to make some change on not be able to see the screen anymore03:18
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grundo:-)03:18
mwegrundo: programs not using codecs and libs is a general problem I recon03:18
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gnomefreakPygi, give me a few mins to finsih this and ill be free for a bit03:18
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Pygifreaky: k, I'l wait03:18
gnomefreakbrb03:19
grundoquite true mwe03:19
mwegrundo: for example mplayer can play all my movies but other players can't03:19
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seicherlbobgnomefreak: WOHOOO! Filerecovery is running! lets see ...03:19
mwegrundo: well some can03:19
grundo:)03:19
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DrAdmin38789may i install packahes from debain to ubuntu ?03:20
mwegrundo: it's because they don't do things a common way03:20
MyrttiDrAdmin38789: it's not encouraged03:20
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gimmulf_!ssh03:20
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto03:20
Diabloa69DrAdmin38789: yes do "sudo dpgk -i pkg.deb03:20
Myrttiin many cases it might break up the system03:20
grundothis one day i was removing trojan.zlob from windows and i release that is time to change to linux03:20
Myrttibut still, yes you can03:21
mwewhat's extra about ssh?03:21
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phanterDiabloa69, I found the nightly build... I will try it from there. Thanks anyway :-)03:21
grundoall my "windows" friends tell my that linux like ubuntu is for pro users. . .03:22
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mweDrAdmin38789: it can break your system03:22
sabzilhi men03:22
Myrttilinux like ubuntu? ha03:22
Myrttilinux like slackware is for pros03:22
grundo:)03:22
PygiMyrtti: heh, actually Slackware can also be used by beginners :P03:22
tafsenIs there an Linux gaming channel or something? Some place that can help me installing wow on Ubuntu?03:22
Myrttilinux like ubuntu is for linux noobs and those who don't want to waste their time on excess tweaking03:23
butcherbirdtafsen: maybe check ubuntuforums.org03:23
MyrttiPygi: true, but the process of getting it to work might be a great turnoff03:23
PygiMyrtti: I started with Slackware 2.x and continued, so I guess I learned everything on slackware :)03:23
Dasnipa`Myrtti, slackware isnt anything hard... try gentoo lol03:23
slartsI found it, thanks for everyone's help03:23
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PygiDasnipa: gentoo is not hard, it's just a pain to install it :P03:23
Myrttiwas it gentoo, can't remember03:23
Myrttianyway03:23
DrAdmin38789mwe why ? ubuntu based on debian or not ?03:24
grundoFree BS is for pro users. . .03:24
mweDasnipa`: gentoo is easy. the install is just tedious but it's a monkey see  monkey do job03:24
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grundowhat about Suse?03:24
MyrttiI'm off to play Stepmania03:24
mweDrAdmin38789: based on, but different03:24
Dasnipa`mwe i know after the install its very nice... ive performed 4-5 installs of it03:24
Pygigrundo: yes, but once you get familiar with FreeBSD then you are almost familiar with all unix & Linux systems :)03:24
Pygigrundo: huh, not the Suse thingy :/03:24
mweDasnipa`: I got tired of it always compiling stuff03:25
grundo:)03:25
jwdoes anyone know a graphical frontend to subversion?03:25
mweDasnipa`: you get a super fast system but it's always crawling because you're compiling all the time03:25
jwlike Cervisia for CVS?03:25
Pygijw: rapidsvn03:25
Dasnipa`compiling everything is rediculasly optimized though03:25
grundocan i run Guild Wars in linux?03:25
Pygigrundo: does it use OpenGL>03:25
Pygi?03:25
grundoduno ..03:26
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grundobut if it use03:26
mwegrundo: what's that?03:26
gnomefreakoh and btw slackware is easy compared to gentoo03:26
Pygimwe: game03:26
grundoGuild Wars?03:26
grundoyeap03:26
DrAdmin38789mwe i want install Ubuntu 5.10 on my notebook - iRu Stilo1415Combo ! what u known problem ?03:26
irvingrundo, yes you can03:26
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fli7eguild wars is a lot like world of warcraft03:26
mwegrundo: you can run like 1 out of 1000 windows games on linux03:26
grundocool!!03:26
Pygignomefreaky: huh, no, gentoo  is REALLY REALLY EASY, just the INSTALL is a bit over ...huh...bad :P03:26
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gnomefreaki found gentoo harder than slack03:27
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cvt|gnuyeari don't know what i'm doing in configuring xserver, should i stop?03:27
Pygignomefreak: huh, I just saw that gentoo install is not good, and since I use slackware since 2.0 I don't intend to get out of it :P03:27
grundohas enyone try out kubuntu?03:27
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mwegnomefreak: I think the only hard thing in gentoo is the installation. and it's not really hard. just tedious03:27
irvingrundo, i have back in hoary03:28
gnomefreakgrundo, kubuntu=ubuntu/kde03:28
Pygimwe: agreed03:28
Pygimwe: takes too long for no reason :P03:28
cvt|gnuyeargnomefreak, are any changes i do in xserver easy to undo?03:28
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schmourtzhello03:28
gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, any changes you do can be undone by runnign the commmand and going through it again03:28
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mwePygi: right. you get a lightning fast system though. too bad it's always crawling because you're compiling all the time03:29
grundoit's that true that linux os are more security that windows?03:29
gnomefreakgrundo, much more03:29
cvt|gnuyeargnomefreak, but what if i can't see the screen anymore? seriously03:29
Pygimwe: ah, yes :/03:29
grundoDid you heard the new security hole in windows03:29
grundowmf hole03:29
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mweyeah03:29
Pygimwe: but still, after 9 years of Slackware.... :)03:29
grundohah windows!!!03:29
grundo:P03:30
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gnomefreakcvt|gnuyear, runnign sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you should beable to pull up and see if not than i dont know03:30
mwegrundo: they posted a fix on windows update though03:30
ubuntuhello. i am a newbie. i have downloaded skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb. how do i install it?03:30
grundoyeah . .03:30
gnomefreak!skype03:30
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/03:30
Pygiubuntu: sudo dpkg -i  pack.deb03:30
J3ffgot some couple of invites for newsvine. if anyone cares just for the heck...03:30
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grundothey still reveal hwo unsecurity windows is..03:30
gnomefreakwhat is newsvine?03:31
masehow do i upgrade to kde 3.5 ?03:31
mwegrundo: but that's old news03:31
Stork how can i display my system specs with xchat?03:31
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gnomefreakmase use the kde repo on easysource03:31
grundoold?, it was yesterday's news03:31
gnomefreak!easysource03:31
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:31
DanglyBitsis there a 64bit version of mplayer available for dapper? or breezy?03:31
mwegrundo: I mean windows being insecure is old news03:31
grundo:)03:31
grundotrue it has allways been..03:31
grundosince the windows 3x03:32
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gnomefreakDanglyBits, neither i dont think03:32
Storkanyone?03:32
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mwegrundo: one basic design flaw is everone logging on as super user by default all the time03:32
mwegrundo: and even without a password on most installations03:32
takedownStork: use sysinfo script ;)03:32
Storktakedown, where can i get that?03:33
knubbeJ3ff: id like one if you dont mind.03:33
grundothat sounds bad. .03:33
grundomwe03:33
DrAdmin38789mwe Thnx ! i found site http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ :)03:33
mweDrAdmin38789: what?03:33
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takedownStork: visit xchat.org and use search03:33
Storkokay03:34
grundoeny good IDE for c/c++ devolpment?03:34
khetan.03:34
mwegrundo: define good03:34
Pygigrudo: use VI :))))03:34
grundo;)03:34
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davidhousekdevelop, eclipse03:34
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Pygigrudo: VI is the best IDE ever and forever :)03:34
mwegrundo: anjuta, kdevelop, eclupse03:34
grundook03:34
grundowhat about Borland?03:35
grundoah!03:35
grundosory..03:35
mwegrundo: oh and if you like something simple, xwpe03:35
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Pygiwhy nobody suggested Vi :(((03:35
grundo:)03:35
mwePygi: vi? do you mean vim or plain vi?03:35
maseW: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde35_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:35
maseW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:35
masewhats that about?03:35
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Pygimwe: plain vi is enough :)03:35
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mwePygi: I think it sucks. I'd rather use ed then03:36
mwePygi: :)03:36
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mwePygi: vim rocks though03:36
Pygimwe: ed???03:36
ubuntu-FrKvi..03:36
Pygimwe: I don't know, I use vi for all my development :/03:36
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ubuntu-FrKcya all!03:36
mwePygi: ok. I use vim03:36
ubuntu-FrKdiner time. .03:36
vesAnyone know how to get anti-aliased fonts working in rxvt-unicode?03:36
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mwePygi: for most of it at least03:36
Pygimwe: yup, vim is good as well03:36
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mwePygi: I can't live without syntax hilighting and auto indeting and stuff like that03:37
Pygimwe: ah, well :P03:37
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Pygimwe: what languages are you developing anyway?03:38
mwePygi: don't you know ed? the oldest unix editor03:38
Pygimwe: not actually, never used it :/03:38
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Raskallagh.. need help. I have two completely empty drives. I want to merge these (with lvm) so that I can have one filesystem on them. How do I do that03:39
mwePygi: ok. try it just type ed. then figure out how to quit :)03:39
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Katie^how do i  you'll need to set your03:39
Katie^*** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point03:39
Katie^*** to the installed location ?03:39
gnomefreakthere is an app in synaptic that lets you add hightlighting into most editord03:39
Pygimwe: I got out :)03:39
gnomefreaks*03:39
Pygimwe: meaning: quited :P03:39
PygiI knew about that, just couldn't remember the name :P03:39
MalachiHow can I fix this error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool03:40
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MalachiI'm trying to install Gimp 2.10...03:40
mwePygi: great. you already a pro. quick learner :)03:40
Storkhow do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file03:40
Pygimwe: heh, I've been using slack since 2.x :P I couldn't have lived since then until now if I haven't learned a few things :P03:40
mwePygi: well you're asking what languages I program in. python perl c c++ mainly. I haven't done anything major though03:41
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Pygimwe: me doesn't like perl :/03:41
Storkhow do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file03:41
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Pygimwe: but I also do C/C++ and python .... I do development using mono framework (C#) as well :P03:42
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mwePygi: I have made small programs and done some bug fixing other peoples code03:42
MalachiHow can I fix this "error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" ?03:42
MalachiWhatdo I need?03:42
mwePygi: ok03:42
Pygimwe: ah, well :) I am currently doing several things :P03:42
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Storkhow do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file03:43
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Pygi!patience03:44
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.03:44
Storksorry03:44
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TheAspStork, drop it in ~/.xchat03:44
Storkoh ok03:45
rowanjlHey, I'm trying to work out what package includes the Apache2 APXS, I've searched and all I can find is the package for Apache103:45
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rowanjldoes anyone know? I'm trying to build a custom module03:45
mweTheAsp: it's not .xchat2 ?03:45
gnomefreaklamp?03:46
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mwe!lamp03:46
ubotu[lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:46
TheAspmwe: well, ok, .xchat2 :)03:46
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rowanjlgnomefreak, you talking to me?03:46
Pygimwe: wann  do some development? :)03:46
netstarWhat's the best way to install firefox 1.5 on ubuntu? is automatix any good? it sounds dodgy03:46
gnomefreakrowanjl, yes03:47
J3fftried automatix, works great.03:47
apokryphos!automatix03:47
gnomefreak!automatix03:47
ubotuautomatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!03:47
dfgasgnomefreak: you know anything about apache?03:47
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gnomefreakdfgas, nope :)03:47
netstarapokryphos, what do you suggest?03:47
cvt|gnuyearis there a place where i can check my video memory size?03:47
J3ffubotu: like what?03:47
ubotuJ3ff: I don't know03:47
apokryphosnetstar: /msg ubotu easyubuntu03:47
J3ffubotu: right03:47
ubotuJ3ff: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:47
rowanjlgnomefreak, well, good try but no :P03:47
apokryphosJ3ff: ubotu is a bot :)03:48
dfgasanyone know why apache won't connect to mysql, all the things are installed for php and mysql03:48
gnomefreakall i knew lamp had apache03:48
J3ffapokryphos: a stupid bot03:48
rowanjlAPXS isn't apache, its the "Apache extension tool"03:48
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J3ffim new here, so why would a bot defame a good program?03:48
J3ffthat's just plain stupid.03:48
apokryphosJ3ff: nope, not stupid.03:48
mwePygi: development, on what?03:48
Pygimwe: well, the projects :)03:49
J3ffso automatix is really banned in here?03:49
J3fflike ive never read any bad reviews about it03:49
Pygij3ff: yes :)03:49
J3ffit's even recommended at times03:49
mwePygi: what projects?03:49
Pygimwe: you can choose out of 3 :) Cromath, Fama IM or Woot Newsreader03:49
J3ffPygi: from what grounds?03:49
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Pygij3ff: well, it has issues :P03:50
J3fflinkage for better explanation why shouldn't I use automatix?03:50
gnomefreakJ3ff, you like it that is fine but we wont tell people to use it because it can hurt the security03:50
Pygiwell, use it if you really want, just don't cry when it breakes somethin'03:50
ubuntuwell, I downloaded an ubuntu 5.10 vmware image from cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware and I was just wondering if anyone would know what the password is so I can update and add programs03:50
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mwe!automatix03:50
ubotuwell, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!03:50
J3ffWell, i used it just to install FF 1.503:50
irvinubuntu, try ubuntu03:50
Katie^ok03:51
ubuntuwill try it right now :)03:51
Katie^so i have now got Xine up and running, I tried to open my file03:51
Katie^but it doenst work03:51
J3ffI just find it irrational to hate a thing when I dont know why should I hate it int he first place03:51
apokryphosJ3ff: because you've seen it recommended it wouldn't really make it ok. automatix has produced -- and can potentially produce -- quite a few problems03:51
J3ffIm new here. I want to learn and I think it's okay to know why such programs are dangerous.03:51
Pygimwe: Cromath - math engine much like Mathematica and Matlab --- Fama IM - can't be compared to anythin :) ----- Woot newsreader --- well, the newsreader :)03:51
stoneagejust use the official mozilla.org binaries or compile it yourself!!03:51
ubuntuirvin, it worked, thank you!03:51
Pygiapokryphos: agreed03:51
irvinubuntu, np03:51
mweJ3ff: did you read what ubotu said?03:51
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J3ffYeah, like it explained everything duh.03:52
BigKahunaanybody have experience running ubuntu on a box with only 32 MB of ram? How is the performance?03:52
J3ffYou guys actually know why?03:52
mwePygi: ok. I think I'm a little too busy at the univerity ATM03:52
gnomefreakBigKahuna, not good03:52
apokryphosJ3ff: for example, it (i) creates a root user (not an ubuntu recommendation), (ii) modifies your sources.list, (iii) uses --force-yes options with apt, and has been known to overwrite some main system files.03:52
J3ffany single html page that explains THE WHY?03:52
Katie^argh03:52
Pygij3ff: well it causes security issues :/03:52
gnomefreak32mb ram isnt enough03:52
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J3ffPygi: wow, that's comforting03:53
J3ffah well03:53
apokryphosJ3ff: that's why easubuntu has been set up.03:53
J3ffIm not a blind follower03:53
J3ffI'll search on it03:53
stoneagemy xorg even eats ~130 mb ram :)03:53
apokryphos*easyubuntu03:53
Pygij3ff: well, don't use it :P03:53
BigKahunagnomefreak, youve tried it?03:53
apokryphosJ3ff: I just told you why.03:53
Pygi!easyubuntu03:53
ubotuwell, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu03:53
gnomefreakBigKahuna, ive seen people try it03:53
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J3ffI know apokryphos. that's fair enough03:53
J3ffI'll do more reading thanks03:53
irvinJ3ff, lookie here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC_2005-12-0603:53
gnomefreaki wanna say 128mb is least ram to use for graphical03:54
BigKahunagnomefreak, I dont want to do anything fancy, just run a slideshow of photos, thats it.03:54
J3ffthx irvin, ill check sure that. :)03:54
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gnomefreakslideshows=graphics03:54
mwethe root user is already created on any ubuntu installation03:55
Madeyeany idea how to enable CTRL-V on terminal ?03:55
gnomefreakBigKahuna, you can try it but i dont think it will work if it runs at all it will be very very slow and prolly freeze up on you if you open an app03:55
apokryphosmwe: but it's disabled03:55
mweapokryphos: no03:55
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apokryphosmwe: yes03:55
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mweapokryphos: it just doesn't have a password03:55
gnomefreakim not ever sure 32mb ram is ok for damn small linux :(03:55
mweapokryphos: try sudo -i03:55
BigKahunaok. maybe Ill stick with Win98 then.03:55
gnomefreakeven*03:55
mweapokryphos: and you become root03:55
davroIm trying to add a drive containg a windows 2000 install, to the grub boot loader what would be the best way todo this ?03:56
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gnomefreakmwe, will ubuntu graphical run on 32mb ram? im thinking no03:56
mweapokryphos: a linux system without a root user would not work03:56
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netstarWHat's the best way to install Firefox 1.5 on ubuntu?03:56
ubuntu_hi can someone help me with ubuntu someone said theres a program called Gpartition i cant find it03:56
Katie^someone help me03:56
gnomefreak!ff1.503:56
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:56
mwegnomefreak: I don't think so either03:56
Katie^pleassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss03:56
Pyginetstar: compile it03:56
gnomefreakfirefox 1.503:56
Diabloa69bbl all03:57
gnomefreak!firefox 1.503:57
ubotugnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about03:57
Diabloa69peace03:57
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netstar!firefox03:57
gnomefreakok whos been changing ubotu :(03:57
gnomefreakoh nm it ran :(03:57
Storkhow do i restart from the command line?03:57
ubuntu_anyone know were i can download Gpartion or find it on ubuntu03:57
netstar!firefox1.503:57
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:57
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install gpart?03:58
Katie^How can I play .mkv file on Xine?03:58
apokryphosmwe: surprise surprise, (can't find t he link), but (i) the encryption used for the scrambling of the root pass is the definition of it being "disabled"03:58
apokryphosmwe: sudo -i is *NOT* the same as a root user.03:58
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irvinubuntu_, sudo apt-get install gparted03:58
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apokryphosmwe: see man sudo03:58
mweapokryphos: it's not my definition. several processes run as the root user03:58
grundohi all!03:58
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apokryphosmwe: that's great; considering you're not the one making the encryption, we shouldn't care less for your definition. Personally I take theirs.03:59
Katie^How can I play .mkv file on Xine?03:59
Katie^How can I play .mkv file on Xine?03:59
mweapokryphos: so I don't see how root is disabled other than not letting you login as root03:59
gnomefreakapokryphos, sudo -i isnt the same but you can do same things with sudo -i as you can su03:59
apokryphosKatie^: please stop being annoying03:59
gnomefreakubotu tell Katie^ about restricted03:59
apokryphosgnomefreak: no, not all the same things; the environment is totally different.03:59
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rowanjlso, does anyone here know anything about the Apache2 packages?03:59
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apokryphosmwe: because the encryption defines that scrambling as it being "disabled"04:00
tafsenIf want to find out what command a shortcut on the gnome menu executes, how do I do that? :P04:00
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gnomefreakapokryphos, but anything you have to do as "root" in ubuntu sudo -i is good and will do it04:00
netstartafsen, /usr/share/applications04:00
Katie^apokryphos, stop ignoring me then.04:00
e_machinistIs Firefox 1.5 not available in the breezy repositories yet?04:00
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YoniHello04:00
grundohi04:00
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gnomefreakKatie^,  ask once and someone will answer you if they know04:00
gnomefreakread this04:00
gnomefreak!anyone04:01
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>04:01
mweapokryphos: whatever. if not letting you login as root though you can become root and the system in all other ways has the root account, then yes it's disabled. I think it's a bad definition though04:01
apokryphosgnomefreak: no, not true at all. sudo -i is not the recommended method for running GUI apps under root, for example.04:01
Kindrede_machinist, no it wont be..04:01
YoniIn the Konsole, how can I see some service ( for example the ssh service ) status? -- the command "service sshd status" isn't working for me04:01
grundolol04:01
grundo:)04:01
apokryphosKatie^: no. If someone is able/willing to help, they will.04:01
e_machinistKindred: gonna be a dapper release?04:01
gnomefreakapokryphos, that would be gksudo04:01
apokryphosKatie^: spamming gets annoying, very fast.04:01
Pygiwell, gui apps should be run under gksudo or kdesu04:01
Pygi!patience04:01
grundowe just dont know katie04:01
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.04:01
ubuntuhow is ubuntu able to afford their bandwidth being a free distribution? I'm just wondering as I'm getting 40MB of updates at nearly 200KB/s...04:01
apokryphosgnomefreak: yes, or kdesu.04:01
Pygi!patience04:01
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Kindrede_machinist: yep04:01
gnomefreake_machinist, late april dapper is set to be out04:01
yatesyubuntu: donations04:01
gnomefreak!dapper04:02
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.04:02
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apokryphosmwe: you haven't understood that sudo and su are quite different models. sudo -i and su are not the same, for one. And yes, the root account is disabled by default.04:02
mweapokryphos: um yes I have04:02
e_machinistYep, I got April 20 on me calendar... counting the days. (Not really)04:02
e_machinistheh.04:02
gnomefreaklol e_04:02
mweapokryphos: so what does the 'id' command say after you sudo -i?04:02
apokryphosmwe: sudo -i and su are emphatically *not* the same.04:02
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gnomefreakits gonna be nice once they get all bugs worked out and packages fixed :))04:02
apokryphosirrelevant, again.04:03
grundohwo i can define what version of ubuntu im running?04:03
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mweapokryphos: I know it's not the same. I didn't state they're the same04:03
apokryphosgrundo: define? Find out? cat /etc/issue04:03
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shuveb-homehi, can i upgrade to breezy while still running GNOME... or do I have to exit all X stuff and do it from the text mode?04:03
mweapokryphos: you still become root with sudo -i04:03
gnomefreakapokryphos, if im not mistaken its only in the "background" that they are not same04:03
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grundook04:03
apokryphosshuveb-home: better to do it from a console -- will save things stop running through the installation. Still, it's possible either way.04:04
grundothanks04:04
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gnomefreakshuveb-home, you can do it eitehr way04:04
Unitysometimes, i get `cpu temperature above threshold, running in modulated clock mode` in my first console, because my cpu cooling is bad. is this ubuntu specific or does all linux have this04:04
gnomefreakubotu tell shuveb-home about upgrade04:04
shuveb-homegnomefreak, apokryphos : thanks04:04
Storkhow can i make my ubuntu machine always request the same ip addr?04:04
gnomefreakyw04:04
gnomefreakshuveb-home, read the pm ubotu sent you04:04
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apokryphosmwe: the point here was that automatix enables the root (su) user account, which is  not "the ubuntu way", quite evidently. There's reasons for why it's disabled.04:05
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grundothere is no such file than /etc/issue04:05
shuveb-homegnomefreak, got that, thanks!04:05
Dr_Willisgrundo,  make one then?04:05
sorush20is there any messenger that enables sound transfere in yahoo?04:05
Storkhow can i make my ubuntu machine always request the same ip addr? it's command line only.04:05
apokryphosgrundo: there really is.04:05
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grundoi just want to find out what's version of ubuntu im running right now..04:05
apokryphosStork: you'll have to set up a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces04:06
mweapokryphos: Yeah the reason is someone thinks it's more secure. and it probably is too04:06
kameronafter a apt-get update, i get this: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508804:06
apokryphosgrundo: cat /etc/issue, then04:06
kentgrundo, in the desktop - choose System -> About ubuntu04:06
ubuntuclick on system and then click on about ubuntu04:06
tafsenAnyone here that knows Gparted?04:06
apokryphosmwe: not just that; it's a superior model in many ways.04:06
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mweapokryphos: how so, other that being more secure?04:06
Storkapokryphos, at the moment it's configured to use dhcp, how can i change that? do i just put a different ip?04:07
kentStork, in the network-settings yes.04:07
Storkthe network-settings??04:08
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Pygi!patience04:08
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.04:08
grundostill don't know what version. .04:08
netstar!firefox1.504:08
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:08
apokryphosmwe: check the wiki; it highlights a few things.04:08
Katie^yeah, patient for the next what 3 hours, lol04:08
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mwe!root04:08
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.04:08
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apokryphosmwe: I've gotta dash, so I'll expand later. But basically, sudo lets you run what as who.04:09
grundo!version04:09
ubotugrundo: I haven't a clue04:09
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grundo!ubuntu version04:09
ubotugrundo: I haven't a clue04:09
Pygigrundo: you got ur answer, what seems to be problem?04:09
apokryphosgrundo: cat /etc/issue04:09
grundocat?04:09
apokryphosgrundo: put that command in.04:10
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sorush20is ymessenger anywhere in the repositories?04:10
grundosory for beeing so pain in the ****04:10
grundo:)04:10
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grundoim just neeb04:10
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grundonoob04:10
grundonewbie04:10
cvt|kdehow can i play sound from two different apps simultaneously?04:10
tafsenHow is the easyest way to add some unused space on the HDD in ubuntu?04:11
Unitytafsen: you can buy a bigger hdd04:11
apokryphosStork: gotta dash, but basically you'll want to structure your interfaces like this http://pastebin.com/49494104:11
cvt|kdewhen i play a video sound in java doesn't work and when i play sound in flash, sound in video doesn't work04:11
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apokryphosStork: you'll want to change 10.0.0.50 (or leave it the same, I guess) -- that'll be your static ip04:11
cvt|kdei personally don't see the purpose in that04:11
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grundocool im running Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger04:12
apokryphosStork: after you change it, then sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth004:12
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Storkapokryphos, ok thanks04:12
Caiusmines still installing hoary after 4 hours :(04:12
tafsenUnity, lol.. I miss typed something there :p I have Dualboot, and I freed some space from the NTFS disc, now I wan't to add that do my linux part04:12
mweapokryphos: I think the sudo way is perfectly sane and I see the point about fine grained security policy. I think we just use different definitions. In my world the root account is not disabled, just root login04:12
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YoniHow can I configure iptables to work automatic with the boot of Ubuntu?04:13
Unitytafsen: sorry i dunno much about resizing partitions. wait for someone else to help you out04:13
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tafsenAnyone who can help me with resizing partitions?04:13
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Pygi!oatuebce04:13
ubotuNot a clue, Pygi04:13
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Pygi!patience04:13
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.04:13
THE_DIRKhello04:13
mwetafsen: yeah live-cd, run parted04:14
MrKeunerhi, which is the meta package to compile programs and create deb packages?04:14
THE_DIRKhow do you install deb packages??04:14
kameronsource-o-matic creates instructions on what to do if you get bad keys.. cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows you how to create gpg database, etc. cool!04:14
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MrKeunerTHE_DIRK/ dpkg -i <package_name>04:14
Unitytafsen: wait, freeing space on ntfs doesn't mean you can transfer that over to your linux partition...04:14
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grundosudo apt-get instal plaaplaal.deb04:14
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JoeBlowdoes anyone know where the wiki is for manually installing grub?04:15
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mase!webcam04:15
JoeBlowcant find it anywhere04:15
Unitytafsen: you can only add unpartitioned space to your linux partition04:15
ubotusomebody said webcam was now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.04:15
mwe!grub04:15
ubotuit has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting04:15
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THE_DIRKthanx04:15
tafsenUnity, yes.. I freed it(unpartitioned it)04:15
mweamsn. ugh04:16
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JoeBlowmwe, thank you04:16
Unitytafsen: oh ok, sorry i misread04:16
mweJoeBlow: you're welcome04:16
BigKahunasorry if this is a stupid question but is it possible to allocate hard disk space as RAM?04:16
UnityBigKahuna: that's what swap is04:16
mweBigKahuna: yeah. swap04:16
yatesyBigKahuna: yes its called swap04:16
mweBigKahuna: you should always have some04:17
UnityBigKahuna: type in `mount|grep swap`04:17
tafsenmwe: could you give me commnd of adding unpartitioned space to my ubuntu part?04:17
THE_DIRKdpkg doesn'y work =(04:17
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BigKahunaok so if I only have 32MB of RAM can I resolve potential performance issues be increasing my swap partition?04:17
JoeBlowtafsen, try gparted04:17
UnityBigKahuna: nvm, that doens't work...04:17
THE_DIRKhow do you install .deb packages?04:17
tafsenJoeBlow, Im not allowed to do anything in it04:18
chmod775!kernel04:18
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kremonteTHE_DIRK:  sudo dpkg -i debname.deb04:18
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chmod775ubotu, u there ?04:18
ubotuchmod775: Wish i knew04:18
chmod775!kernel04:18
mwetafsen: just run qtparted from a knoppix cd. you can resize and what not in the gui. I think the ubuntu live-cd has gparted IIRC it does the same04:18
THE_DIRKthanx04:18
sorush20anyone here.04:18
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kentBigKahuna, you can create a swap-file on the drive. Its the most easyest way to solve it i think. But using swap as ram is very very slow. Its better to find cheap ram somewhere.04:18
chmod775!ub04:18
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chmod77504:18
chmod775!lol04:19
uboturumour has it, lol is "laugh out loud", or really annoying when used as punctuation04:19
kremontestop spamming the bot, use /msg please04:19
chmod775I am sorry kremonte04:19
mwerofl04:19
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mase!rofl04:19
ubotumase: Are you on ritalin?04:19
UnityBigKahuna: ubuntu should have automatically deteremined how much swap you should have when you installed it, unless you manually partitioned04:19
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BigKahunaproblem I have is that I cant update the RAM on my notebook, it's a very very old Song Vaio...was looking for alternative ways to speed things up. Any suggestions.04:19
BigKahunaSony04:19
yatesyswap won't speed things up04:19
mweBigKahuna: how much ram does it have04:20
BigKahuna3204:20
yatesyif anything it'll slow things down if your hard drive is constantly swapping04:20
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mweBigKahuna: you can't run x windows decently with that04:20
Seveas32mb is not enough04:20
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BigKahunayeah I know...04:20
Unitysometimes, i get `cpu temperature above threshold, running in modulated clock mode` in my first console, because my cpu cooling is bad. is this ubuntu specific or does all linux have this04:20
hikenbootanyone know what this is looking for  Unable to find the QT installation.?????04:20
BigKahunathats why Im looking for a way to increase the RAM somehow...04:21
Seveas!tell hikenboot about compiling04:21
mweBigKahuna: I would look for another linux distro04:21
mweBigKahuna: and not use x windows04:21
SeveasBigKahuna, damn small linux may be better for you04:21
yatesywas just about to suggest that :)04:21
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BigKahunaI need a graphical interface, I have modded my old vaio so it's kind of a digital picture frame, the idea is to run photo slideshows on it.04:22
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yatesythat you might be able to get away with, if you run nothing else04:23
junglegeneral direction pls on how to obtain OfFice 2,0 for ubuntu package04:23
yatesybut ubuntu is still not for you04:23
kremontejungle - synaptic?04:23
hardbop200hey, good news guys04:23
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yatesy!openoffice04:23
ubotuyatesy: I haven't a clue04:23
jungleyes, synaptic,04:23
yatesy:/04:24
kremonte!info openoffice04:24
BigKahunawhat about the thin client thingy?04:24
kremonteboo04:24
jtraskmorning all... im considering a couple different distros for a machine im building. im very much liking the looks of ubuntu, though i was curious -- what kind of support is there for amd64?04:24
kremonteah04:24
kremonte!info openoffice.org04:24
ubotuopenoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6707 kB, Installed size: 28920 kB04:24
hardbop200I was able to get a fully-preemptable kernel with realtime privs compiled and running last night on my 5.10 box04:24
jungletks, ill try now04:24
hardbop200(good for audio work)04:25
irvinjungle, just try updating your box (sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade)04:25
yatesyi thought openoffice 2 wasn't in the repositories? i had to install it from debs provided by a developer04:26
yatesyi can't find the link again04:26
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jungleyes, i dont thinks in the repositores04:27
mweyatesy: seveas04:27
kestasis there any script which will wipe free space on ext3?04:27
irvinyatesy, it's on universe04:27
kestasso all the unlinked to space gets wiped!!04:27
Sioniderm -rf   ?04:27
yatesywasn't when i installed it04:28
Katie^men04:28
kremonterecursive and removes directories, Sionide04:28
Katie^got it to work04:28
Dr_WillisSionide,  he means to zero out the allready deleted files so they cant be recovered i think04:28
Katie^btw.04:28
mweyatesy: wnat the link?04:28
kestasSionide, rm -rf just unlinks it, it doesnt wipe it04:28
Sionide*shrug*04:28
yatesyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80392 < thats what i used04:28
Dr_Willisthere are secure delete tools out for linux04:28
kestasDr_Willis, there must be some out now though right?04:28
Dr_Willisfor the truely paranoid :P04:28
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kestasfor ext304:28
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mwedeb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./04:28
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Dr_Willisive seen some on several live cd's  - ive juist never used any04:29
yatesymwe: thats what i just said ;)04:29
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mweyatesy: I thought you talked about a forum thread04:29
Dr_WillisSeveral wiping tools (such as shred and wipe) ensure that files are really erased from your hard disk04:30
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mweor dd04:30
yatesymwe: thats the line taken from the first post :)04:30
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mweyatesy: ok04:30
mweyatesy: I didn't read it :|04:30
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indoI have a small home network, 2 pcs both running ubuntu - is there a way I can download updates only once and then install to both the computers?04:33
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mweindo: yes but I forgot how :\04:34
jinrohCan anyone recommend a USB scanner for ver 5.10 that will work out of the box?04:34
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mweI there anything special you need to get fglrx to do tvout?04:35
yatesyindo: theres a package on debian to do that, dunno if its been ported over to ubuntus respositories04:35
mweyatesy: do you remember the name?04:35
yatesyapt cacher or something04:35
yatesyhttp://www.nick-andrew.net/projects/apt-cacher/04:36
indogoing to check it out, thanks yatesy04:36
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mweyatesy: oh it's in ubuntu, just found it04:36
mweyatesy: apt-cacher it was, indeed04:36
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yatesynice :)04:37
indoall you ubuntu gurus kick ass04:37
mweyatesy: in universe though04:37
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JoeBlowcan someone help me out with installing grub from live cd, ive done it a couple times fine, but this time, i get some weird errors04:38
JoeBlowand ive done the wilki04:38
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bSONhi04:38
Grundohi04:38
JoeBlowhi04:38
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Grundo:-)04:39
aTypicalHello all04:39
yatesynice host04:39
Grundohi04:39
chihchunhi04:39
Kindred hi04:39
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mase!cdrom04:39
ubotumase: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:39
JoeBlow!grub04:39
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting04:39
masehow do i mount cdrom04:39
Grundo:)04:39
JoeBlowmase, a real cd, or iso?04:40
Grundomount /cdrom04:40
Madeyeanyone have php5 installed on ubuntu ? if yes please tell me what's the default group for it?04:40
Grundotype that04:40
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chihchundouble click nautilus ?04:40
ppdhello! does somebody know a gnome applet which provides me some extended information about cups? e.g pages printed today, the last week.... printed document size alltogether... printed pages of the last 3 hours... and so on04:40
Grundofor  umount type umount /cdrom04:40
Grundo:-)04:40
mweheh. a new version of ipw2200 was just released. it's broken there's already a patch for it. bummer04:40
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JoeBlowhow do i mount a drive in live cd?04:40
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kremonte!mount04:41
ubotuI heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f04:41
mweJoeBlow: mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/something04:41
Grundo!windowsdrives04:41
ubotusomebody said windowsdrives was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f04:41
JoeBlowmwe , can u do it in live cd?04:41
mweJoeBlow: sure04:41
bSONcouldn't you implement in ubuntu that it puts the partitions into /etc/fstab by volume label and not by device? i think volumes named "Share" or "MP3s" are simpler than such volumes like "hda5" and "hda8", especially for home users04:41
Nijuhello where cani download drivers for linux04:42
JoeBlowmwe , mount: can't find /dev/hdb3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:42
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mweJoeBlow: if it can't detect the file system you need mount -t <fs_type> though04:42
mweJoeBlow: type it like I told you to04:43
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mweJoeBlow: mount /dev/hdb /mnt/<mountpoint>04:43
mweJoeBlow: mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/<mountpoint>04:43
mweJoeBlow: that is04:43
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JoeBlowmwe, oh crap, i forgot the /mnt/boot04:43
mweJoeBlow: mkdir -p /mnt/hdb3 && mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/hdb304:43
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JoeBlowmwe, ok i got it mounted04:44
mweJoeBlow: great04:44
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JoeBlowmwe, when i do grub install for it, it tells me /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.04:45
mwebSON: maybe. feel free to change it yourself though04:46
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mweJoeBlow: what are you trying to do?04:46
JoeBlowmwe, /sbin/grub-install /dev/hdb04:46
mweJoeBlow: I only know how to use the grub shell. did you read the wiki?04:47
bSONyes, i mean during installation of ubuntu, whereever this is done there04:47
JoeBlowmwe, yea04:47
bSONor maybe not volume labels but something else04:47
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Inf3ctedFxHello everyone04:47
mweJoeBlow: sure you didn't miss anything, like the chroot if you wanna do it automatically?04:48
Kindredhey04:48
bSONbut the device names aren't quite intuitive for most people. i think04:48
bonezAnyone able to help me how to change the splashscreen? I've read on art.gnome.org but I just dont get it =(04:48
JoeBlowmwe, it didnt say anythignabout chroot in wili04:48
bSONi know, it's just a little thing04:48
JoeBlowmwe, wiki04:48
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mweJoeBlow: well here it does: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:49
JoeBlowmwe, on what part, im on that page04:50
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Grundoi tryed make exe program whit KDevelop and it compline it but it cannot configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables04:50
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Grundowhat to do?04:50
JoeBlowmwe, oh shit, ok i see it04:50
mweJoeBlow: about a page down, just before "Recovering GRUB Automatically"04:50
Pygigrudno: .exe??? :P04:50
Grundo:P04:51
JoeBlowmwe, I never even had to touch that part before, ive installed grub about 5 times this week, and this is the first trouble its given me, i could have done it by memory before this04:51
mweJoeBlow: ok04:51
Pygigrundo: shouldnt you been trying to create a .bin? :P04:51
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Grundo:P all04:51
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mweJoeBlow: just run "grub" and do it manually. that should work04:51
Grundoi just sawp linux04:51
Grundo:)04:51
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Red-Soxhello04:51
Grundohi04:51
JoeBlowmwe, thats how i was doing it, and it wasnt working, was it because the hd wasnt mounted?04:51
mweJoeBlow: in that case you can forget about chroot04:52
mweJoeBlow: no04:52
Red-SoxI was trying to use the 64-bit live cd on an amd 64 fx dual-core and I got no gui :/04:52
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LoPMX84hi, can anyone tell me how can i run internet explorer on ubuntu? because i need a browser!!!04:52
mweJoeBlow: what was the error. be careful about typing the right partitions04:52
PygiLoP: omg, internet explorer? are you sane? :P04:52
PygiLop: you have mozilla firefox04:52
Red-SoxLoPMX84: just use firefox/opera!!04:53
LoPMX84geez, i'm just jerking out ;] 04:53
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LoPMX84:P04:53
Kindredi knew it..04:53
mwesed 's/opera//'04:53
CorwinI just replaced windows for ubuntu. I really l ike it.04:53
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LoPMX84Corwin, yeah, so did i, i need it for Ruby on Rails development, windows sucks as a dev machine for it04:54
sorush20how can I edit peoples configuration files from a remote location as a customer service tool?04:54
Red-Soxgosh!! I want ubuntu on my computer, just if i mess up the partitioning process, I'm knee-deep in trouble04:54
Pygihehe, Ruby on rails :)04:54
Red-Sox:/04:54
Dr_WillisRed-Sox,  thts  when it pays to have a 2nd hard drive just for linux04:54
PygiRed-Sox: well, get someone to install it remotely for you04:54
LoPMX84Pygi, r u RoR dev aswell?04:54
Grundookay i get this error:04:54
Grundo*** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6.04:54
Grundo*** KDE requires automake 1.604:54
Grundomake[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 104:54
Grundomake: *** [all]  Error 204:54
Grundo*** Exited with status: 2 ***04:54
PygiLoP: No, I am a C/C++/Python/C# and whatever not developer :P04:55
Red-Sox!tell Grundo about paste04:55
kremonteis there anyway to list all usb devices i have plugged in?04:55
PygiGrundo: dont paste :P04:55
Grundook04:55
Grundosory04:55
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Grundo:)04:55
Pygijust install new automake04:55
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LoPMX84Pygi,  ;] 04:55
Red-SoxDr_Willis: do you know about the partitioning process?04:55
Grundosudo apt-get install automake?04:55
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Grundoupdate04:55
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Grundo?04:55
CorwinYeah i recently heard about Ruby on Rails.....now use PHP...any reason to swap?04:55
PygiRed-Sox: well , what seems to be the problem? :P04:55
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LoPMX84damn, tell me, why do i love terminal so much? ;] 04:55
PygiCorwin: huh, ruby on railgun is way better :)04:56
utadahello, how can i save flash/shockwave movies to my hd using ff/epiphany?04:56
Red-SoxLoPMX84: if you really want to run ie, use crossover04:56
LoPMX84Corwin, any? 4 times faster development process? is it any good? ;] 04:56
Dr_WillisRed-Sox,  ive done it doznes of times in the past.. and if you are not carefull - Yes you can trash your existing install04:56
kremonteis there anyway to list all usb devices i have plugged in?04:56
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Pygired-sox: as I said, get someone to install it remotely for you04:56
LoPMX84Red-Sox, nah, no need, i'll jus tswitch to xp whenever i need to test IE's CSS capabilities ;] 04:56
Red-SoxPygi: well, I really REALLY want ubuntu on my computer, but if I fry my HDD :O04:56
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Kindredkremonte, lsusb04:56
Pygiubotu tell kremonte about patience04:56
CorwinReally that much faster.. gotta try Ruby on Rails then...04:57
Grundoi tryed and it says that automake 1.4 is allready the new version04:57
Red-SoxPygi: uummm, I tried that once, it's just that they couldnt get through my firewall :O04:57
kremonteKindred: thanks :-)04:57
Pygired-sox: huh? firewall when network installing? what are you talking about :P04:57
Pygigrundo: use synaptic04:57
Grundo?04:57
prxqhi. What is the prefered way to install xemacs packages for which there is no debian support? I mean things as x-symbols, reftex, etc.04:57
LoPMX84Corwin, i'm a PHP developer aswell, but when you get ur hands on Ruby (the language) and Rails, u won't switch back to PHP04:57
Red-SoxPygi: what?04:57
Red-SoxPygi: i dont know what you are talking about :O04:57
prxqs/debian/ubuntu04:57
LoPMX84Corwin, Ruby just increases your creativity04:57
utada?04:58
Red-SoxPygi: and I have a router, if that matters04:58
Pygired sox: well, when you are using network install cd, you don't have a firewall :P04:58
Red-Sox:(04:58
PygiLoP: ruby on railgun? :)04:58
Red-SoxPygi: you mean remote access, right?04:58
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Pygired-sox: yup, yup04:58
LoPMX84Pygi, rather a machinegun ;] [04:58
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PygiLoP: nah, machinegun is not good....04:58
Red-SoxPygi: hmmm04:58
Red-SoxPygi: well, I'm still not sure04:58
LoPMX84Corwin, and, if you don't own a mac - radrails.org, a good editor for free (based on eclipse)04:58
LoPMX84Pygi, volcano?04:59
Red-SoxPygi: mb I'll just buy/rip a secondary hard drive04:59
Red-SoxPygi: or just use the live cd :D04:59
Red-Soxbut that is why I came here...04:59
CorwinAllright. I go and try it.  But PHP has many free scripts. does ROR also have this?04:59
LoPMX84Pygi, are you 'she'? ;] 04:59
PygiLoP: lol, no :P04:59
Red-SoxI was trying to use the 64-bit live cd on an amd 64 fx dual-core and I got no gui :/04:59
Red-Soxgah!04:59
Red-Soxcommand line is scary04:59
PygiLoP: why would you made such an assumption? LOL04:59
Red-Soxo_O04:59
PygiRed-Sox: command line is great :P04:59
Red-SoxPygi: ya05:00
LoPMX84Corwin, well, it depends what do you mean by script? ROR is a framework, not a language, Ruby is a language05:00
PygiRed-Sox: way better then gui05:00
Red-SoxPygi: it's too much for my young mind05:00
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Red-Soxgtg05:00
LoPMX84Pygi cuz it sounds like a female nickname? :P05:00
PygiLoP: lol05:00
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LoPMX84Red-Sox, way way way better than gui ;] 05:00
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LoPMX84Pygi, nah, look at os x ;] 05:01
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LoPMX84but, this year is going to be fun for linux05:01
LoPMX84many changes in KDE (version 4), GNOME (version 3) and X Window for example05:01
Kr0ntabmorenin folks...05:01
Kr0ntabmornin*05:01
LoPMX84we're going to have a great os up here ;] 05:01
Mr_Molezdoes anyone know of any place to get updated kernel versions ?05:01
PygiLoP: I will, I just have to buy a apple mini :P05:01
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drukeHeya ubuntu, i'm using an acer aspire 3003wlmi (a laptop), and i'm trying to get the internal wifi to work. I know i have to set up the DSDT, just wondering if anyone has any experiance in the same matter here?05:02
wdhLoPMX, we already have one :)05:02
yatesyMr_Molez: kernel.org :P05:02
PygiMolez: well, compile the kernel on your own05:02
LoPMX84Pygi, yeah, i'm considering to buy mini aswell ;] 05:02
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Kr0ntabdruke, what card do you have05:02
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Dr_Willisid rather build my own uber-micro-itx :P05:02
LoPMX84wdh but not as fun as os x is! ;] 05:02
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PygiLoP: i've never use mac :P and now I have to learn Cocoa thingy05:02
LoPMX84Dr_Acemaster, lol05:02
Dr_WillisGot an ImacDV in the back room.. rarely even used.05:02
Mr_Molezi was hoping i would not have to do that, are there not any updated kernel versions made especially for ubuntu ?05:02
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LoPMX84Pygi, well install x86 version then on ur pc, i got it running, it worked as a charm, great os, but don't want to use it illegally05:02
LoPMX84Mr_Molez, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:03
drukeKr0ntab: its nat a cr dits built in, just says "wigi b/g" ndiswrapper has the drivers, but its a hardware problem with the bios formw hat i understand05:03
cleohow can you upgrade from hoary to breezy with cd? what do I have to add in sources.list?05:03
PygiLoP: huh, I'll rather buy the mini thingy05:03
Dr_WillisI just must expect more out of Os-X -  it just dident impress me much.05:03
CorwinIs there anyone here who's theme looks like the old motif/CDE look? just curious...05:03
LoPMX84Pygi, + 30" display? ;] 05:03
prxqany xemacs users here?05:03
PygiLoP: no, no need for that :P05:03
yatesyCDE sucks05:03
Corwinmine does. I kind of like it.05:03
LoPMX84Corwin, eh ;] 05:03
PygiLoP: vi refuses to run on such a large screen :P05:04
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LoPMX84Pygi, lol05:04
prxqCorwin: i kinda hate it, but have to use cde at work.05:04
Corwinyeah I noticed many people find it extremely ugly05:04
LoPMX84Pygi, then go to text mate ;] 05:04
drukeKr0ntab:  hands was off .. its not a card its built in "wi-fi b/g"05:04
prxqI find the sun box I have to work with horrible05:04
LoPMX84damn, why i can't get my Intel Media Accelerator 900 3D acceleration to work? ;/05:05
prxqincluding cde05:05
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CorwinI use kubuntu...but window and buttons etc are motif like. So I don't use CDE. but Gnome05:05
LoPMX84i'd love to have compmgr hardware accelerated shadows05:05
LoPMX84KDE...05:06
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LoPMX84dunno why, but i hate KDE05:06
aTypicalAnyone here using Dapper?  If so, how is it?  Is it relatively stable?  I was using it a month or so ago, but switched distro's for a spell.05:06
LoPMX84aTypical, stable05:06
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CorwinYes are these "hardware accelerated" GUI's much faster? like the stuff from Xi graphics?05:06
LoPMX84aTypical, using it now, works great05:06
davidhousehey, i want to install ubuntu on my 60GB laptop drive. i already have winxp and suse installed. will it be easy to repartition and put ubuntu on?05:06
LoPMX84Corwin, usually yeah?05:07
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davidhouseor will it be too much of a squeeze05:07
aTypicalLoPMX84, at one point there was an issue with locales.  Did you experience that?  Also, did you do a fresh install or a dist-upgrade?05:07
LoPMX84davidhouse, yeah05:07
LoPMX84aTypical, a dist-upgrade from 5.10, yesterdaty05:07
LoPMX84aTypical, and i don't get any problems with locale05:07
aTypicalLoPMX84, that's great news.  Thank you.05:08
davidhouseLoPMX84, will the ubuntu installer do it?05:08
Kr0ntabdruke,  sorry my kid woke and had to address somethin...  what type of wireless card are you trying to get working?05:08
LoPMX84davidhouse, sure, if you want it to05:08
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tafsenmwe: witch live cd was I supose to use for partitioning?05:08
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davidhousedo i want it to? :)05:08
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davidhouseor should i use something else then install ubuntu05:09
LoPMXI LOOOOOVE UBUNTU!!! (and everybody now, 'I LOOOOOVE UBUNTU!)05:09
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Corwin*CHEERS WITH LoPMX*05:09
LoPMXdavidhouse, depends what do u want it to do?05:09
LoPMXdavidhouse, you want to remove suse and install ubuntu on it's place?05:10
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davidhousewell, my suse installation currently takes up about 30GB, winxp about 20GB and the rest is swap and a diagnostics partition the vendor stuck on my laptop05:11
davidhousei'd like to resize one or either of them down so i can install ubuntu.05:11
Grundohwo i can update my automake to 1.605:11
davidhousei'd like to avoid removing suse if possible05:11
LoPMXhmm, don't think you can resize it on install process, try installing any windows/linux tool for resizing (like gparted for linux)05:11
bSONGrundo: install automake1.605:11
Grundohwo?05:11
bSONapt-get install automake1.605:12
CorwinHas anyone experience with VMWare?05:12
Grundook05:12
Grundothanks05:12
bSONsudo apt-get install automake1.605:12
bSONthat is05:12
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davidhouseLoPMX, and would you recommend that approach or would it be too difficult?05:13
LoPMXwell, i'd suggest to remove suse, i mean in the installer tell it to use the old (suse) linux partitions05:14
LoPMXand that's it05:14
davidhouseyeah05:14
Kr0ntabCorwin, what's the issue?05:14
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VincentMXwhy isn't Aleph One in the Ubuntu repositories?05:15
mweVincentMX: what's that?05:15
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fred_What about RSS owl05:15
VincentMXmwe it's a game, based on bungie05:15
VincentMX's marathon05:15
Mr_Molezhow would let apt-get install packaged from the dapper release ??05:15
AmaranthMr_Molez: you'd have to upgrade to dapper, which isn't stable right now05:16
Mr_MolezAmaranth: k05:16
bSONhow stable is dapper at this point? i mean, if using flght cd 2?05:16
bSONdoes it still have major issues?05:16
LoPMXhmm, what bittorrent client do u suggest?05:17
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VincentMXLoPMX, gnome has a bittorent client, but i don't know it's name05:18
LoPMXbSON, i'm using dist-upgraded version from breezy, work's great05:18
LoPMXVincentMX, yeah, but it has no configuration options at all ;] 05:18
bSONcool05:18
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VincentMXok05:18
irvinbSON, it's still unstable but you're always welcome to test it and report bugs05:18
AmaranthbSON: Do you know how to 1) fix dependency problems, 2) use apt pinning, and 3) report bugs?05:19
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VincentMXare you still there, mwe?05:19
aTypicalLoPMX, did you work off someones instructions for you upgrade?05:19
bSONAmaranth: i know 3), but not 1) and 2)05:19
AmaranthbSON: then you probably shouldn't use dapper05:20
LoPMXaTypical, eh, no? just apt-get dist-upgrade, that's all (+ added dapper repositories)05:20
AmaranthbSON: not for another month or so, anyway05:20
mweVincentMX: yeah I'm here05:20
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akurashyhow do i extract a .ace ?05:20
mweakurashy: unace05:21
bSONbut actually I'd like to help with dapper... what is apt pinning?05:21
JoeBlowquit05:21
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akurashymwe, thanks going to try now05:21
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VincentMXmwe, so Aleph One is a game based on Bungie's marathon, and i really like it, but it's not in the apt, and so i had to download some stupid rpm witch doesn't work, so i'd really like to have it in apt.05:22
C-O-L-Thow can i install from synaptic skype?05:22
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Dr_Willistheres a SKYPE wiki page - you should read.05:22
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VincentMXC-O-L-T you can't it's not free software iiac05:23
C-O-L-TVincentMX: I want to install the new version05:23
mwe!skype05:23
ubotuI heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/05:23
C-O-L-TVincentMX: how?05:23
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VincentMXC-O-L-T see ubotu05:23
mweVincentMX: so bug the developers to get it in05:23
Seveas!no skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/05:24
ubotuSeveas: okay05:24
Seveasmwe, Ubuntu will mostlikely never include skype05:24
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Inf3ctedFxI use Gizmo Prohect05:24
Inf3ctedFxbetter than skype05:24
bluesignhi where can I get kernel sources for 2.6.12-10-386?05:24
Inf3ctedFxProject05:25
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mweSeveas: no05:25
aTypicalLoPMX, I'm trying a dist-upgrade and it says there's nothing to do.  Did you ever experience that?05:25
C-O-L-TSeveas: the link to install skype  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/  is broken05:25
LoPMXaTypical, did you add dapper repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list?05:25
mweSeveas: it was a guy who wanted an open source game in ubuntu05:25
Inf3ctedFxC-O-L-T:  install gizmo project05:25
C-O-L-TSeveas: how to install the new version of skype and firefox05:25
Inf3ctedFxis much better05:25
aTypicalLoPMX, I went through my sources.list and changed everything breezy to dapper.05:25
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C-O-L-TInf3ctedFx: what is that?05:25
Inf3ctedFxhold on let me show u05:26
aTypicalIt appears to read the dapper sources, but then does nothing.05:26
Inf3ctedFxis a VoIP services like skype05:26
polpakaTypical: did you then sudo apt-get update05:26
LoPMXaTypical, so first sudo apt-get update (to udpate)05:26
mase!skype05:26
ubotuI guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/05:26
C-O-L-TInf3ctedFx: i need skype, my contacts use skype05:26
Inf3ctedFxC-O-L-T:   http://www.gizmoproject.com/05:26
Inf3ctedFxthere is no skype for ubuntu, used to be but now anymore05:27
C-O-L-Tubotu: the link is broken05:27
ubotuC-O-L-T: okay05:27
mweInf3ctedFx: I believe seveas has skupe packages05:27
Dr_Willisubotu  is a bot. :P05:27
ubotuDr_Willis: Do they come in packets of five?05:27
aTypicalLoPMX, polpak, I did that, but still no go.  The last line I get is this - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.05:27
mweInf3ctedFx: skype*05:27
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C-O-L-TInf3ctedFx: can i phone skype users with gizmo?05:28
Grundohi all!05:28
polpakaTypical: then did you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?05:28
JoeBlow!grub05:28
ubotuI guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting05:28
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aTypicalpolpak, yes.05:28
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Grundo!sudo05:28
Inf3ctedFxI couldn't update my sources because is srewing me the Seveas  repositories :(05:28
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:28
Inf3ctedFxfor the public key05:28
C-O-L-Tubotu: how to install skype. Don't give me again the broken link.05:28
ubotuC-O-L-T: Wish i knew05:28
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polpakubotu tell C-O-L-T about ubotu05:29
C-O-L-TInf3ctedFx: gizmo compatible with skype/05:29
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Dr_WillisC-O-L-T,  ubotu  is a bot - not a real person05:29
Grundoubotu are u a bot?05:29
ubotuGrundo: Syntax error in line 105:29
Inf3ctedFxI dont know C-O-L-T05:29
davidhouseheh.05:29
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davidhousethat means yes05:29
Kr0ntabhehe05:29
Grundo:)05:29
Grundoyeah  . .05:29
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Dr_Willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto05:30
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Dr_Willisit PAYS to learn to use the wiki search... :P05:30
Mr_Molez!lart me05:30
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C-O-L-TDr_Willis: I realized now :)))) . How to install skype can you help me05:31
Dr_WillisC-O-L-T,  Nope. other then read the wiki...05:31
Dr_Willisi dont use skype05:31
Dr_Willisalso ive heard of a lot of issues with skype and alsa05:31
C-O-L-TDr_Willis: the link is broken05:31
C-O-L-TDr_Willis: that one which is given by ubotu05:31
Dr_WillisIm looking at   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29 right now.05:31
Dr_Willisas i said.. it pays to use the search feature of the wiki.05:31
Dr_Willistheyve reorganized the web site some05:32
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irvincool repo Seveas!05:32
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JoeBlowmwe, hey can uhelp me out with manual grub install, it tells me my disk does not exist05:32
cvt|kdehow do i make ubuntu play sounds from multiple apps at the same time?05:33
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mweubotu: no, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/05:33
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ubotumwe: okay05:33
cvt|kdewhen one sound comes from one app sound from another app stops05:33
mwe!skype05:33
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uboturumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/05:33
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C-O-L-TDr_Willis: thanks it will work05:34
mweJoeBlow: you need to give it the correct disk and partition05:34
LoPMXanyone interested to write good software for ubuntu?05:34
Inf3ctedFxhey mwe  this is the error that I have when I made apt-get upgrade  -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/674305:34
JoeBlowmwe, im using hdb3, i tell it (hd1,2)05:34
polpakLoPMX: to do what?05:34
LoPMXpolpak, there is much to, np. stworzenie dobrego gui?05:35
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Grundoi am interested05:35
mweJoeBlow: looks ok. use tab completion to see what it recognizes05:35
Grundowhat kind og progrssm?05:35
LoPMXwhat computer languages can u speak?05:35
JoeBlowmwe, how do i do that?05:35
Grundoc++05:35
Grundoc05:35
Grundojava05:35
Grundopython05:35
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mwe!tell Inf3ctedFx about seveas05:35
LoPMXGrundo, great, any examples?05:35
Grundowhat you mean?05:36
mweInf3ctedFx: read that. use a mirror instead or you get 40305:36
polpak!tell Grundo about punctuation05:36
LoPMXGrundo, any programs?05:36
polpak!tell Grundo about enter05:36
LoPMXcode examples?05:36
Grundoyes..05:36
mweJoeBlow: type root(hd<tab> in the grub shell05:36
Inf3ctedFxI already it done that mwe  but now this is the error I get when I made apt-get update ->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/674405:36
NoWhereManGnomebaker freeze on startup: console -> (gnomebaker:11220): Gtk-WARNING **: gtkwidget.c:4205: widget not within a GtkWindow05:37
NoWhereMan*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0811f4b0 ***05:37
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NoWhereManany known fix?05:37
JoeBlowmwe, it just repeats what i wrote, doesnt add any numbers05:37
Grundodo you want me to post some in here?05:37
mweInf3ctedFx: broken mirror. use another one05:37
Grundoor your e-mail...05:37
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mweInf3ctedFx: (+ei)]  [3:#ubuntu(+Pcnt)]  [Act: 1,2] 05:37
polpak!tell Grundo about pastebin05:37
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mwe[#ubuntu]  Inf3ctedFx:05:37
mwesorry05:37
pawelstolLoPMX: are you ubuntu official? or just asking?05:38
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mweInf3ctedFx: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ works05:38
Grundo:)05:38
LoPMXpawelstol, nie, im not an official ;>05:38
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Inf3ctedFxlet me c that mwe05:38
JoeBlowmwe, any ideas, i know the drives mounted, ive browsed it05:39
Grundowhat kind of program you have on your mind?05:39
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Sillionhi05:39
Grundohi05:39
Sillioni'm looking for some help... after searching on the web i havnt found a solution...05:39
pawelstolLoPMX: so what kind of software do you mean? are you looking for help with your project?05:39
Sillionno05:40
Sillionabout a soft05:40
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Bevinhi05:40
Sillionevolution05:40
Kr0ntabSillion, just ask....05:40
Sillionto import my old mails from thunderbird05:40
LoPMXno im just thinking of making linux a better unified platform05:40
mweJoeBlow: so root(hd1,2) doesn't work?05:40
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BevinI'm considering installing Ubuntu 32 bit on my 64 bit laptop, is there any real speed decrease or so that I should expect after doing so?05:41
ROBOdhey guys05:41
ROBOdi got a problem05:41
LoPMXpawelstol, like, improving gnome/kde? or maybe creating a brand new desktop environment?05:41
Dr_WillisBevin,  i use 32bit on my 64bit laptop...05:41
ROBOdi have gcc4.0.2 and my kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4.205:41
Dr_WillisBevin,   unless you need 64bit for somtning. id stick with 3205:41
BevinDr_Willis: it seems that you avoid a lot of problems by doing so05:41
Dr_WillisBevin,  Exactly!05:41
BevinDr_Willis: yeah, I think I'll reinstall05:41
Dr_WillisBevin,  thats what i endedup doing as well05:41
SillionKr0ntab, some idea where i can find info about that?05:42
Dr_WillisBevin,  my COmpaqV2311 is working nicely now with Ubuntu 5.1005:42
BevinDr_Willis: ok, cool :-)05:42
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pawelstolLoPMX: ok, i see... not much sense to create another one desktop! it's much better to improve existing one and create utilities... IMHO05:42
BevinDr_Willis: I have an Acer Ferrari 400505:42
juliohi, i will back to wndows >(((((((((((((((((05:42
mweBevin: frankly I don't think ubuntu 64bit is ready for the desktop05:42
bryanlBevin, i'm jealous05:42
LoPMXpawelstol, skad jestes?05:42
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juliocause the CEDEGA cant function my favorite game! Pro Evolution Sccer 505:42
julio(05:42
julio:(05:43
bryanli'm gonna get a dual core apple when they come out05:43
Sillionthe import fonction build in soesnt work or i cant use it ! :P05:43
Bevinbryanl: I'm coming from mac05:43
juliocarlos xD05:43
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pawelstolLoPMX: Bydgoszcz ;)05:43
mweBevin: to much stuff don't work or only works half05:43
LoPMXpawelstol, o prosze ;]  tez ;]  studiujesz?05:43
carlos__hola?05:43
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Bevinbryanl: I did some speed tests, and this laptop is 40% faster than my dual G5 2.5 GHz powermac :-/05:43
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Bevinbryanl: quite frustrating05:43
Kr0ntabI've never done that... I'd have to search on it...05:43
ROBOdand ... it's not even the latest version ( kernel 2.6.12-10-386 )05:43
Bevinmwe: yeah, that's what it looks like05:44
Bevinmwe: I'm impression with Ubuntu though05:44
Sillionthx Kr0ntab  ;)05:44
carlos__someone can help me with a trouble?05:44
Inf3ctedFxmwe:  I cannot completed those.. here on the Seveas's Packages said If I have a 403 error means I'm getting the package from his machine and his bandwith is only finte, but now I use one of the mirros and all of them are broken mirros05:44
Bevinmwe: I used to be a contributer to Gentoo05:44
ROBOdnow ... installing the official nvidia drivers require me to compile their module for the kernel05:44
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ROBOdwith the same gcc05:44
ROBOdwhat to do?05:44
mweBevin: they ought to put a warning on the download site05:44
pawelstolanyone interested in creating ubuntu packages for my app (kleansweep)... there are debian packages already, so it should be relatively easy... i'm looking for a volunteer05:44
Bevinmwe: but Ubuntu really seems to bring linux to the desktop, finally05:44
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kbrooksHey all.05:44
JoeBlowmwe, right05:44
julioi will back to windows :(05:44
ROBOdwhere to get the latest kernel built with the gcc version i need?05:44
mweBevin: ubuntu is great05:44
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Dr_Willis:P05:45
BevinDr_Willis: what would you give an A?05:45
JoeBlowi used windows for about 2 hours last night, then it reminded me why i deleted it in the first place05:45
mweBevin: you can't really blame ubuntu for sun and macromedia being lame, can you?05:45
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Dr_WillisBevin,  Nothing that exists at this time05:45
pawelstolLoPMX: sort of... pracuje i studiuje zaocznie05:45
oleerikI cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help..05:45
pawelstolLoPMX: tzn robie drugie studia  :] 05:45
mweBevin: still it gives 64 bit users problems05:45
Bevinmwe: not, but I need both flash and java05:45
ROBOdsomebody??05:45
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LoPMXpawelstol,  ;]  swietnie,05:45
Bevinmwe: that's what I do for a living05:45
carlos__please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice05:46
Bevinubuntu: :-)05:46
Dr_WillisI dont even need a computer for what I do for a Living. :P05:46
LoPMXpawelstol, gdzie pracujesz? (btw. jakis komunikator masz?)05:46
bryanl64 bit desktop isn't quite there yet05:46
mweBevin: yeah you wont get either to work in 64 bit unless you do 32 bit chroot. My advice is just use the 32 bit version05:46
julio!tell julio about Windows05:46
julioxD05:46
pawelstolLoPMX: w lucent technologies05:46
carlos__ke? XD05:46
oleerikI cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help... 64bit cpu but not installed the 64bit version of ubuntu.. can that be by problem?05:46
Mr_Molez* Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the05:46
LoPMXpawelstol, uuuu ;] 05:46
Mr_Molezanyone know what package i need ?05:46
Dr_Willis!info tuxracer05:46
ubotutuxracer: (dummy transition package), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 44 kB05:46
cvt|kdeeverything is getting stuck in the processes05:47
Mr_Molezive tried  apt-get install libqt4-dev05:47
carlos__please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice05:47
BevinHow do Guildwars and WoW run under wine? Is it as good as on Windows?05:47
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pawelstolLoPMX: psi (gg & jabber()05:47
mweMr_Molez: qt4 ?!05:47
mweMr_Molez: why qt4?05:47
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LoPMXpawelstol (gg:1083263, jabber: lopmx@jabberpl.org)05:47
oleerikI cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help... 64bit cpu but not installed the 64bit version of ubuntu.. can that be by problem?05:48
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Mr_Molezmwe: umm wanted the latest version, is there something wrong with qt4 ?05:48
mweMr_Molez: you need libqt3-mt-dev and libqt3-headers05:48
LoPMXpawelstol, what do u program in?05:48
Mr_Molezmwe: ok thanks05:48
carlos__please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice05:48
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ubuntunow that I know that the download bandwidth and all that is run through donations, how much do you think that the 600MB cost them? not that im looking for minimum amounts here :P05:48
LoPMXcarlos__, poor you ;] 05:48
cvt|kdepopping noises when new app starts05:48
pawelstolLoPMX: c, c++, perl, python -- http://linux.bydg.org/~yogin for my projects05:49
carlos__fuck you all05:49
vrln...05:49
ubuntu:(05:49
vrlnor he could have waited a few seconds until someone would have answered05:49
vrlnbut I guess not05:49
polpakI think he was upset by LoPMX 's response05:50
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LoPMXpawelstol, no prosze, tez na blug ;] 05:50
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deFryskpolpak, I think he was upset, period05:50
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ubuntunow both your responses have upset me05:50
kbrooksI just wanted to annunce the Programedia project. Our website / wiki is at http://programedia.ath.cx05:50
mweI think he was a jerk, period.05:50
pawelstolLoPMX: taaa... ale nie udzielam sie, za malo czasu05:50
deFryskperhaps he has his period05:50
mwedeFrysk: yeah :)05:50
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deFrysk;p05:51
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Vivaldihello05:51
Kindredhey05:51
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dickmcHi all  -  How do I get the plugin to burn Mp3's to audia in GnomeBaker??  Thanks05:52
Vivaldihow much time has passed since the last version of ubuntu went out?05:52
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BxLVivaldi, october05:52
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polpakVivaldi: 3 months05:52
vrlnVivaldi: the next should be out in april (or was it march?)05:52
ubuntuI wish it was 0-day :/05:52
Vivaldiis there any other newer famous distribution?05:52
irvinVivaldi, umm... Ubuntu?05:53
vrlnVivaldi: I would still try ubuntu - it is still "newer" than most other stable distributions (gnome 2.12 etc) :)05:53
mweVivaldi: 5.10 stands for year 2005 month 10 release05:53
vrlnyup, next is 6.0405:53
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Vivaldii liked kubuntu, which is supposed to be based on ubuntu. i installed it 4 times and i was never able to login as root thorugh any of the graphical interfaces available there05:54
irvinVivaldi, seriously you can check out www.distrowatch.com to see the new distros05:54
BxLVivaldi, that's normal.05:54
Dasnipa`lol @ Vivaldi05:54
vrlnVivaldi: there is no root account by default05:54
mweVivaldi: root password is not set in ubuntu. you need to use sudo instead05:54
vrlnVivaldi: ubuntu uses sudo, ie, you can run commands as root by adding "sudo" in front of the command05:55
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ChousukeVivaldi: ... and you shouldn't login to X as root either.05:55
Vivaldivrln, i was able to login from a terminal though05:55
Dr_Willis" is supposed to be "   ? :) it IS based on it.05:55
Mr_Molezanyone know where to find/install make-kpkg05:55
yatesyvrln: of course root exists you idiot :P05:55
vrlnVivaldi: and the password that it asks you when you use "sudo" is your normal user account05:55
Dasnipa`kubuntu is ubuntu btw with the kde window manager instead of gnome... you can get ubuntu and then switch to kubuntu by apt-getting it05:55
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vrlnyatesy: well, yes, it exists in a theoretical way, but not as in "you can log in with root"05:55
bryanlChousuke, and why shouldn't you?05:55
vrlnby default that is05:55
ubuntuthere's a way to make root, saw it on some site05:55
yatesyit is there, theres countless daemons that run as root :P05:55
Dasnipa`you can sudo change root password and then there is root05:55
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Chousukebryanl: X assumes you don't :P05:55
Vivaldivrln, NO. it was NOT. i did come here many times when i encountered the problem: everyone told me to provide the user password, but it didnt work in that case too05:56
Dr_Willisthe 'evil' - "i have to be root!" mentality !:P05:56
mwevrln: it does very much exist. sudo su root would be like logging in as root. many processes run as root05:56
sproingieif you install with the 'advanced' installer, you get a normal root05:56
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Dasnipa`Vivaldi, you dont su - you do sudo <command> and then it prompts for pass05:56
sproingieand no sudo user by default05:56
Vivaldisproingie, that's what i did05:56
BevinStill wondering which filesystem to use on a laptop, ext3 or reiser?05:56
vrlnyatesy/mwe: I know, but know what I meant :)05:56
vrlnyou know*05:56
Dr_Willisheh... such a simple security alteration.. causes soo much screaming.05:56
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sproingieVivaldi: it's still using sudo, so login as root and visudo and add yourself to sudoers05:57
Dr_WillisBevin,  ext3 :P05:57
chrissturmis there a tutorial somewhere how to use remote x11 from an osx system to ubuntu?05:57
ubuntuyeah, i prefer not to have to deal with stuff like that so it makes it easier to learn the other stuff05:57
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steve44Morning05:57
yatesyvrln: we might, but other users won't so don't just say something that isn't true. it won't help them in the longrun05:57
mwesproingie: I didn't get that. I believe I did the advanced install though05:57
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Vivaldisproingie, i did an advanced installation , while everyone telling me to insert the user password did a normal installation05:57
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BevinDr_Willis: any particular reason, or just that it's worked well for you?05:57
Vivaldii think that was the reason of the problem05:57
chrissturmhey bevin :)05:57
Dr_WillisBevin,  i see no reason to not use ext3 actually05:57
sproingiemwe: maybe breezy did it different.  hoary worked that way, i've just upgraded it since then05:57
Bevinhi chrissturm, do I know you?05:57
vrlnyatesy: well, ok, sorry, that was very unclearly said and I do apologise05:57
mwesproingie: I think it sound inconsistent at least05:58
Bevinchrissturm: you nick doesn't ring a bell05:58
yatesyvrln: no need to appologise, just follow where i'm coming from :)05:58
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Mr_Molezanyone know where to find/install make-kpkg05:58
Bevinchrissturm: but I have a bad memory ;-)05:58
mcrslewisanyone know why my system is like it is @ http://www-personal.umich.edu/~donofrio/6jan2006/after-updates/05:58
BevinDr_Willis: people say that reiser is faster05:58
sproingiemwe there's an implicit assumption that people who use the advanced installer are old hands at the os.  personally i think it's unwarranted05:58
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Dr_WillisBevin,  people say a lot of things. :P05:59
sproingieBevin: reiser and xfs run circles around ext305:59
ktogiasHi all, I often install Breezy in Greek language and after the installation (where i choose greek as the language), apt has to download from the net some packages as 'language-pack-el-base' for complete support of the greek lang. Those packages don't exist on the installation disk (CD). I am wondering how easy (or hard) it is to I build an custom installation ISO image with those (greek) packages included and some other tweaks.. Is there any ubuntu spe05:59
ktogiascific suggestion or howto, before I start trying?05:59
chrissturmbevin: from #xfire05:59
Vivaldii do not understand how can one configure his/her system without having a  root account05:59
mweyatesy: someone kept insisting root is disabled in ubuntu since the passwd man page defines disabled accounts as accounts with bogus hashed passwords :)05:59
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tafsenDoes the Ubuntu live cd include any partition programs?05:59
Bevinchrissturm: aaah, cool :-)05:59
Bevinsproingie: I've had good experiences with xfs on servers06:00
Dr_WillisI cant even recall ever seeing mention of the 'advanced' installer of ubuntu.. but all these people wuith problems seem to use it.. :P perhaps its best its hidden.06:00
sproingieBevin: i run it on my desktop.  it's quite nice and fast06:00
ROBOdhow to get gcc 3.4.2 ?06:00
Bevinsproingie: I think I'll try reiser, xfs is not really intended for desktop use, though it should be very stable06:00
chrissturmbevin: i wouldnt recommend using reiser06:01
sproingieBevin: i've got a server at work running redhat with ext3 and another on even older hardware running suse 9 with reiser.  the suse box blows the doors off the redhat box06:01
Vivaldifor istance, how can i setup my particular connection to internet by modyfing some files under /etc without having the appropriate privilegies?06:01
Bevinchrissturm: why?06:01
mwedon't use xfs unless you are positive you wont get a power failure :)06:01
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trappistROBOd: that particular version isn't packaged, at least for breezy06:01
sproingieBevin: xfs is fine for desktop use, long as you have a 64 bit desktop06:01
Inf3ctedFxI anyone familiar with the xchat? I'm trying to load up an script for xmms but I'm getting an error  here it is --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/674506:01
Bevinsproingie: I've had problems with both ext3 and reiser, so ;-)06:01
sproingiemwe: xfs journalling is just fine06:02
Bevinsproingie: well I'm going back to a 32 bit desktop06:02
mwesproingie: I know06:02
Bevinsproingie: xfd caches a lot in ram though06:02
Bevinxfs06:02
chrissturmbevin: i think it too exotic. you are more likely to run into problems that noone filed before if you run a distro on a filesystem that it doesnt use by default06:02
sproingieBevin: oh i don't really trust reiser either.  if that filesystem gets any errors, the whole partition is probably gone06:02
mwesproingie: it uses heavy caching though so data loss is very likely on power failures06:02
Bevinsproingie: yeah, that's what happened once06:02
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tafsenDoes the Ubuntu live cd include any partition programs?06:02
chrissturmbevin: on the other hand the reiserfs people were very helpful when i had lost some data06:03
Bevinsproingie: but I had an unrepearable ext3 partition before too06:03
bSONtafsen: that's planned for dapper as far as i know06:03
ktogiastafsen, I sould have fdisk....06:03
sproingiemwe: my desktop use patterns include long enough pauses that it can typically keep the buffer flushed06:03
Bevinpeople should port ZFS to linux :-)06:03
Bevinanybody using JFS?06:03
Dr_WillisBeOSFS06:03
mwesproingie: good for you then :)06:03
Inf3ctedFxdoes anyone knows how to install the xmms-perl??06:04
BevinDr_Willis: have you seen the new Solaris ZFS file system?06:04
mwesproingie: I see no reason to run the risk though06:04
Dr_WillisBevin,  nope - i aint that big a nerd. :P06:04
thierry_Inf3ctedFx : if it's in universe then "sudo apt-get install xmms-perl"06:04
chrissturmbevin: you could use nexenta06:04
Inf3ctedFxI did  thierry_  but it wont get any package06:04
BevinDr_Willis: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/demos/06:04
BevinDr_Willis: check that out06:05
Bevinchrissturm: what's that?06:05
thierry_Inf3ctedFx : do you have the universe urls added to your sources.list?06:05
chrissturmbevin: debian with solaris kernel06:05
Bevinchrissturm: I also have opensolaris running06:05
Bevinchrissturm: quite nice06:05
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Inf3ctedFxmm I dont really know... xD thierry_  do u have the line??06:05
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Bevinchrissturm: just that wireless, sound and bluetooth don't work :-/06:05
chrissturmhehe06:06
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Bevinchrissturm: for the rest it's a pretty Gnome 2.12 desktop06:06
chrissturmanyone know a tutorial how to do remote X11 from osx to a ubuntu box?06:07
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mweBevin: just wifi sound and bluetooth. who cares about that crap? :)06:07
yatesyssh -X06:07
Bevinchrissturm: apple's X should just work06:07
Bevinchrissturm: I used that a while ago with Gentoo06:07
Inf3ctedFxthierry_:  do u have the universal line for the sources.list?06:07
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JoeBlowwhen i boot using the install cd, when it goes into my partitions, it doesnt read the partitions on one of my harddrives, it just shows the harddrive name and size06:08
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PaKeT_cls06:08
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JoeBlowanyone ever seen this before?06:09
JoeBlowwhen i go in with live cd, i can mount and browse all my paritions on that drive06:09
mikexneed help with a broadcom wireless card06:09
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mweisn't OSX based on linux?06:09
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irvinmwe, no06:09
JoeBlowmwe, i think its unix06:09
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mweJoeBlow: do you what unix then?06:10
JoeBlowmwe, no, i want ubuntu06:10
mikexfollowed the how to. wireless light is on but does not show in networking06:10
JoeBlowmwe, but it is giving me trouble with install06:10
ColonelPaniqueOS X is based upon FreeBSD06:10
DonVincenzohow can I configure an ethernet connexion without using pppoeconf nor a graphic interface ?06:11
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thierry_Inf3ctedFx : do you speak french? I found about 10 howto in french on what and where to add this06:11
XenguyDonVincenzo: pppoeconf is the easiest way IMO06:11
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Inf3ctedFxnot really thierry_  I speak bad english and spanish xD06:11
JoeBlowhas anyone had an error installing ubuntu where it doesnt read the partitions on a drive06:11
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DonVincenzoXenguy: it does not work on my macjine06:12
ROBOdguys how to get gcc 3.4.5 ?06:12
irvinthierry_, add what?06:12
thierry_Inf3ctedFx : I would say search in google with english option something like "sources.list universe ubuntu" and I'm sure you'll find what you want06:12
meepyAnyone got experience with Eggdrop?06:12
XenguyDonVincenzo: is it something specific?06:12
irvin!repositories06:12
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:12
mweROBOd: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.406:12
thierry_irvin : the universe repositories stuff in the sources.list for apt-get06:12
XenguyROBOd: packages.ubuntu.com  ?06:12
piernikI can't open acroread. I klick the icon, see a slpash and it's over  :(   How to fix it?06:13
ROBOdmwe: i have gcc 4.0.2 already installed06:13
Inf3ctedFxHold on thierry_  I think I got it06:13
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Xenguypiernik: xpdf is your best bet06:13
ROBOdmwe: is it possible to have multiple versions installed?06:13
DonVincenzoI am using a router modem, but I can not configure it. With gentoo, I was able to setup it configuring /etc/conf.d/net, which does not exist in my Ubuntu distribution06:13
ROBOdmwe: or do i have to uninstall gcc 4 first?06:13
irvintell Inf3ctedFx about repositories06:13
piernikno it isn't06:13
irvin!tell Inf3ctedFx about repositories06:13
XenguyROBOd: I was able to have 2 different versions installed06:14
ROBOdXenguy: so ... doing sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 is safe?06:14
XenguyROBOd: AFAIK you just need to set an environmental variable after installing, to use an older version06:14
JoeBlowno ideas for the ubuntu installer not reading partitions06:14
XenguyROBOd: it should be; make sure that it is not going to remove anything important, that's all06:15
XenguyROBOd: you can always abort if it looks dodgey06:15
DonVincenzois there an equivalent of gentoo /etc/conf.d/net in ubuntu ?06:15
irvinJoeBlow, what does mount say?06:16
XenguyROBOd: anyway, it worked for me (I had to compile NVIDIA drivers for my new box)06:16
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JoeBlowirvin, mount works fine through live cd06:16
irvinJoeBlow, if the live cd can see it then the installer can too. maybe you just need to manually mount the partition or add them to /etc/fstab06:17
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JoeBlowirvin, when i go to the installer, it just says maxtor 82gb xxxxxxx or whatever06:17
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JoeBlowirvin, normally the install cd sees it fine06:18
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s_spiffhello06:18
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JoeBlowirvin, i was having trouble with booting into ubuntu as well, that was why i was reinstalling, but I have through live cd browsed my root partition06:18
lsuactiafnerXenguy : the nvidia.com drivers you compile yourself works better imho06:19
mahangu__is there an easy way to edit my bootsplash?06:19
PaKeT_hey guyz, can anyone help me please???06:19
Razor-Xwhen compiling Xpdf, doesen't Xm live in /usr/X11R6/include/Xm and Freetype lives in /usr/include/freetype2/freetype ?06:19
s_spiff?06:19
PapagenoHow do I mount a usb drive? I do not want any auto-mount or gui tools.06:19
ColonelPanique!anyone06:19
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>06:19
lsuactiafnerPaKeT_ : just ask!06:19
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masehow do i refresh fstab?06:19
seven_six_twoI tried to install ubuntu breezy on a laptop with xp, and now I get grub error 16 when I try to boot. I looked for a cause, but I'm at a loss. I remember the error from when I first tried to dual, but I don't remember the solution. any ideas?06:19
s_spiffcan someone tell me what does the X11R6 folder contain? what is it?06:19
lsuactiafnermase : you dont06:19
masewell how then06:19
Razor-XPapageno: ``sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1'' where /mnt/sda1 is an existing mount point06:19
lsuactiafnermase : you just mount -a actually i think06:20
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PaKeT_what is the command to change folder privilages from root to current user??06:20
Razor-XPaKeT_: chmod06:20
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s_spiffRazor-X, how do i mount somthing at boot up?06:20
lsuactiafnerchown user.user * (edc.edc)06:20
s_spiff as in i have a hdd  [ master ]  partition hda706:20
s_spifffat 3206:20
PaKeT_Razor-X, can you please be more specific??06:20
s_spiff i want it to be mounted at startup06:21
binahow do you stop KDE from automatically opening CDs in konqueror?06:21
s_spiff how do i do it?06:21
lsuactiafnerchmod changes permisssions06:21
Razor-Xs_spiff: if it's mounted, take a look at your mtab and copy that line into your fstab06:21
lsuactiafnerchown changes users06:21
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s_spiffok06:21
PapagenoRazor-X: How do I create the mount point? I create a dir first?06:21
mase!winmac_fstab06:21
ubotuI don't know, mase06:21
Razor-Xoh wait, change users? yeah, that's chown06:21
masewhere do i get winmac_fstab06:21
Inf3ctedFxhey this is the other problem that I got  jezzzz  -->  Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs06:21
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY06:21
Razor-Xchown -R is for folders, generally06:22
ChousukeC-O-L-T: ok :P06:22
ColonelPaniqueC-O-L-T : auto-aways == booooo!06:22
s_spiffbrb06:22
ROBOdXenguy: doing apt-get install gcc-3.4 will retrieve gcc-3.4.4 for my breezy distribution06:22
Razor-XPapageno: yeah, exactly06:22
Razor-XPapageno: in this case ``mkdir /mnt/sda1''06:22
ROBOdbut my kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4.506:22
masewhere do i get winmac_fstab06:22
lsuactiafnerROBOd : try apt-get install build-essentials06:23
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masewhere do i get winmac_fstab06:23
PapagenoRazor-X: Yup, thanks. Works.06:23
ROBOdi saw there's gcc3.4.5 in dapper distro ...06:23
Razor-XPapageno: cool06:23
ROBOdwould it be save to install that?06:23
Inf3ctedFxROBOd:  r u trying to install VMWare?06:23
Razor-Xugghh, xpdf just won't compile06:23
ROBOdInf3ctedFx: that too :P06:23
bshumate!tell mase about diskmounter06:23
Inf3ctedFxI did it not to long ago06:23
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rchi! can someone tell me what the syntax for greater than is?06:24
ROBOdInf3ctedFx: but i also tried installing the official nvidia drivers06:24
lsuactiafnerRazor-X : its in apt?06:24
ColonelPaniquerc: >06:24
ColonelPaniquerc: ;-P06:24
meepyi heard you can use checkinstall instead of "make install" right?06:24
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: yeah... but I've been having problems with the apt version after a breezy upgrade06:24
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Inf3ctedFxROBOd:  i did it just like this:  apt-get install nvidia06:24
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Razor-Xmeepy: yeah, ``sudo checkinstall'' should work out fine06:24
rccolonel: isnt that stdout redirection?06:25
meepyThanks!06:25
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JoeBlowI hate windows06:25
meepy:)06:25
Razor-Xlsuactiafner: I've even tried a statically linked binary and that's having the same problems, I'm going to try and compile as a last resort06:25
Inf3ctedFxROBOd:  http://ark.blogspirit.com/archive/2005/12/14/nvidia-ubuntu-breezy.html06:25
ColonelPaniquerc: it is also greater than !  you can use -gt in some case too though06:25
_damn_any good games for linux06:25
JoeBlowafter i installed windows, my grub got messed up beyond fixing, ubuntu, cant find my partitions on a drive, and it turned one of my drives into raw, and i lost 160 gigs of media06:26
lsuactiafner_damn_ : same ones thats good for windows06:26
ColonelPaniquerc: man test for examples06:26
gnomefreakubotu tell _damn_ about games06:26
_damn_:D06:26
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mase!root06:26
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:26
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ryancasimiro_colonel: i tried using -gt and it gave me the error "unary operator expected"06:26
ryancasimiro_actually, it was when i used -lt that i experienced the error06:27
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ColonelPaniquemarcin`: you're using it incorrectly then06:27
renishola06:27
ROBOdthanks dude06:27
marcin`ColonelPanique: ?06:27
ROBOdthe Ubuntu Wiki also really helpful06:27
ColonelPaniquemarcin`: that, or you don't have an integer on both sides of the -gt06:27
ROBOdgotta go now :)06:28
ROBOdbye06:28
_damn_bye06:28
ColonelPaniquemarcin`: err that was supposed to go to you: that, or you don't have an integer on both sides of the -gt06:28
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marcin`ColonelPanique: are you sure that you want to talk to me?06:28
ryancasimiro_colonel: i dont see anything wrong06:28
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ryancasimiro_if [ $x -lt $y ]  <- is this correct syntax?06:28
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theineHi, there is a type in texinfo.postinst (texinfo version 4.8-3). In line 56, `update_ls_files' should read `update_lsr_files'06:29
ColonelPaniqueryancasimiro_ : arghhh... nick changing!  yeah, that is right, but you know what?  one of either $x, or $y is not getting set to an integer value, and that is why you're getting the error06:29
AndyRhi all06:30
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theinetypo06:30
_damn_hi06:30
ColonelPaniqueryancasimiro_ : best to take this kinda crap to #bash homey06:30
_damn_ok06:30
Inf3ctedFxHey ppl, I'm trying to install the xmms-perl but it said E: Couldn't find package xmms-perl06:30
mase!skype06:30
ryancasimiro_colonel: how do i do that?06:30
ubotuskype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/06:30
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ColonelPaniqueryancasimiro_ : do what? ask people in #bash?  type: /join #bash06:30
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AndyRis there a correct way to copy all /home to a new install on a different computer?06:31
Zoohousehello everyone. I am running ubuntu 5.10 and I get this error when I try to build my docbook index: htdig failed06:31
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ryancasimiro_ok! thnx colonel!06:31
ZoohouseWhats the problem?06:31
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ColonelPaniqueryancasimiro_ : sure thing mon!06:31
masecan i download skype debian package and install on kubuntu? or will i have problems?06:31
Inf3ctedFxHey ppl, I'm trying to install the xmms-perl but it said E: Couldn't find package xmms-perl06:32
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cleomase: take seveas repository for skype package06:32
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kameronmas: you will have problems. the deb package is broken, it's dependent on a library that does not exist.06:33
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bshumateInf3ctedFx: try: sudo apt-get install libxmms-perl instead ;-)06:33
Inf3ctedFxadd this lines to ur sources.list cleo -->  # Seveas' packages (packages, GPG key: 1135D466)06:33
Inf3ctedFx#deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all06:33
Inf3ctedFxdeb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/  ubuntu-seveas freenx06:33
Inf3ctedFx# Seveas' packages (sources, GPG key: 1135D466)06:33
Inf3ctedFxdeb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all06:33
Inf3ctedFxok bshumate06:34
Inf3ctedFxsorry for the flood :(06:34
kameron!paste06:34
ubotusomebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:34
cleoInf3ctedFx: mase needs it, not me06:34
Inf3ctedFxohh oks cleo  sorry06:34
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Koruptdoes seveas have ff1.5?06:35
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fabio!w32codecs06:42
ubotu[w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install06:42
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FeestBijtjeI fukin hate compiling06:43
FeestBijtjelol06:43
FeestBijtjeCan some one help me installing AMSN?06:43
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drayenHey, i think i may have killed my external hard disk, its formated useing ext3, but it wont mount and e2fsck -b 8193 <device> doenst work... is there any more heavy duty / altervative tools for data recovery? i know the drive is working as i can see it in drive management...06:43
NoWhereManFeestBijtje: where's the problem with amsn?06:44
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polpakFeestBijtje: why not gaim?06:44
FeestBijtjeI must compile it but it dousnt compile no matter what i am doing its saying i am missing some thing with APT-Get is toolazy to get06:44
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theguyhello06:44
theguyCan I asume that the broken OpenOffice and broken Ubuntu desktop thing is common?06:45
theguybecasue it has happend on two computers06:45
polpaktheguy: what do you mean 'broken'06:45
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kameronFeestBijtje: get the ubuntu package instead of compiling, it works great06:46
polpak!info amsn06:46
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB06:46
NoWhereManFeestBijtje: did you checked the forum? there's a good guide for the cvs06:46
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FeestBijtjehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75276 <= i am following that tutorial06:46
theguyevery time I do a fesh install of ubuntu, i get "You have two borken packes" message06:46
tafsenCan anyone tell witch program I can use to add unpartitioned space to my Ubuntu partition?06:46
barrymessenger7julie06:46
NoWhereManpolpak: it's too old the one on the repo06:46
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FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, well 1st command brings me already trouble 1st time no prob06:46
theguyand they are always OpenOffice (paticiualy writer) and ubuntu desktop06:46
FeestBijtjenow its a big prob06:46
fadetafsen -- gnu parted06:46
Xenguylsuactiafner: I couldn't get the apt-get'able nvidia drivers to work (but I expect they'll be included soon enough)06:47
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Korupt<annoyed rant> I'm pretty sure at this point I'm going to grow old and die before the Ubuntu devs switch to FF1.506:47
polpakKorupt: you going to die in 3 months?06:47
FeestBijtjefeestbijtje@FeestBijtje:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential tcl8.4-dev tk8.4-dev imlib11-dev esound-clients06:47
FeestBijtjeReading package lists... Done06:47
FeestBijtjeBuilding dependency tree... Done06:47
FeestBijtjeE: Couldn't find package imlib11-dev06:47
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kameronFeestBijtje: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb?download06:48
FeestBijtjeE: Couldn't find package imlib11-dev06:48
Koruptare there any debian sources out there for FF1.5?06:48
TheAspWhere would I get newer debs of the nvidia drivers?06:48
polpak!ff1.506:48
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:48
Koruptpolpak..... I could kiss you06:48
Koruptagain06:48
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polpak;p06:48
NoWhereManFeestBijtje: looks like you don't have any deb-src repository, do you?06:48
Luixscomo me brinco al irc en espaol06:48
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polpak!es06:48
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:48
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FeestBijtjewb kameron06:49
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LuixsJoin #ubuntu -es06:49
kameronFeestbijtje: wb?06:49
LuixsJoined #ubuntu -es06:49
FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, i just did an clean install06:49
Luixs06:49
FeestBijtjekameron, wb = Welcome Back06:49
Razor-Xkameron: welcome back06:49
polpakLuixs: try  /join #ubuntu-es06:49
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kameronFeestbijtje: oh, okay. thanks. i had a kde crash.. again.06:49
FeestBijtjeWBB = Welcome Back Biatch06:49
Razor-Xit's one of those AOL greetings, like re :P06:50
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kameronlol.06:50
FeestBijtjeKDE is unstable last few month's idd <_<06:50
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kameronmy kicker keeps crashing.06:50
kameroni think it's called kicker. the panel deal.06:50
fade're' is auld irc speak. ;)06:50
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NoWhereManFeestBijtje: a clean install... so you mean you don't? :p06:50
tafsenfade: do you know the command?06:50
FeestBijtjeokay06:50
duckx0ris there a way in apt-get to upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu? i'm using 5.0406:50
KoruptFeestBijtje, don't get me started..... have you tried installing kubuntu? right now I'mamazed it even runs06:50
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FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, you got a big gun? shoot me :)06:50
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polpak!breezy06:51
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:51
kameronduckx0r: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:51
FeestBijtjeKorupt, i am on ubuntu06:51
duckx0rty guys06:51
FeestBijtjeAnd not verry awake06:51
kameronoh wait, no. i think that just upgrades everything in your distro..06:51
NoWhereManFeestBijtje: ehe, so that was the problem?06:51
nerezushi06:51
FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, i want to use AMSN but its bitching at me06:51
polpakduckx0r: just follow the wiki06:51
polpakduckx0r: it always knows =)06:51
duckx0rkameron, i'll just read that url ubotu gave me06:51
FeestBijtjefollow the wiki wiki follow the wiki06:51
Fadetafsen: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html06:52
kameronduckx0r: good call06:52
Razor-XFade: hmmm, I've never really seen it on many IRC channels, but whatever06:52
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kameronduckx0r: im reading it too. i am right, just just need to change repositories.06:52
FadeRazor-X: it's shorthand for 're-join' or 're-emerge' etc.06:53
FeestBijtjeARG!06:53
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Bevindon't you just hate it when you download the live cd while you needed the install cd06:53
kameronBevin: uhhh, haha. i guess it could happen to the best of us.06:54
Razor-XFade: yeah, but it can also be reply, or resubmit, or simply the prefix re06:54
tafsenFade: it looks kind of tough for me, isn't there anything easyer?06:54
FeestBijtjeSelecting previously deselected package amsn.06:54
FeestBijtje(Reading database ... 58519 files and directories currently installed.)06:54
FeestBijtjeUnpacking amsn (from amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb) ...06:54
FeestBijtjedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amsn:06:54
FeestBijtje amsn depends on tcltls; however:06:54
FeestBijtje  Package tcltls is not installed.06:54
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FeestBijtjedpkg: error processing amsn (--install):06:54
FeestBijtje dependency problems - leaving unconfigured06:54
FeestBijtjeErrors were encountered while processing:06:54
polpakFeestBijtje: don't paste in here06:54
seven_six_twoi'm still getting grub error 16. I tried using the live cd and chrooting to / and running grub-install, but it didn't change anything   :(06:54
Fadetafsen: lol06:54
kremonte!tell FeestBijtje about paste06:54
kameronBevin: i once downloaded and tried to install a PPC version on my x86.. i swore it said PC, and not PPC. it was a late night.06:54
FeestBijtje.deb were so easy one's in the past06:54
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Bevinkameron: lol :-)06:54
Bevinkameron: anyway, I'll pass it one to a friend so that he can try linux out06:55
NoWhereManFeestBijtje: I think there is an option for dpkg to solve dependencies but I don't remember it right now06:55
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Fadeyou can install the parted packages and go from there. There may even be some graphical front ends for the parted libraries. Dunno.06:55
Bevins/one/on/06:55
kameronBevin: good idea06:55
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tafsenfade: im a n00b06:55
Fadebackup all your important stuff before you start screwing around with parted. :)06:55
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Fadepartition magic is a commercial product that does the same thing.06:55
kameronseven_six_two: should work..06:55
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freemanhello06:56
Fadeit has a click 'n drool interface, so you might be happier with that.06:56
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FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, polpak  kremonte kameron: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/675006:56
freemansomeone to try gnoma meeting please ?06:56
seven_six_twokameron: perhaps it should, but it didn't06:56
polpakFade: there's also gparted and qtparted for your gui partition editing needs06:56
Razor-XFade: I trust my data to nothing but Partition Magic :) (although it isn't the dumbed down Symantec one)06:56
kameronFeestBijtje: i haven't pasted anything man06:56
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kameronfreeman: yeah, i've been wanting to try it too.06:57
polpakkameron:  he wants you to look at his error06:57
FeestBijtjekameron, check the link what ive pasted06:57
seven_six_twooh well. I guess I can't use ubuntu06:57
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matt_Hi!06:57
kameronFeestBijtje: oh, wtf. i thought you akdfa.sd ... okay nevermind.06:57
ubuntu_zolhi06:57
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kameronseven_six_two: are you on amd64 or x86?06:57
seven_six_twox8606:58
matt_I have a problem with a dlink router!06:58
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kameronseven_six_two: hmm, i had a lot of troubles with grub on my amd64 and ended up installing lilo.06:58
matt_when installing ubuntu using a linksys router it installs fine, but not with a dlink router!06:58
Fadekameron: were you booting from a reiserfs partition?06:59
kameronFeestbijtje: is that the package i linked you to?06:59
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kameronFade: ext306:59
FeestBijtjeyes thats ur package06:59
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seven_six_twothe ubuntu installer didn't give me a choice. I could try expert install06:59
polpakmatt_: do you have a wireless connection?06:59
Fadethe only time I've had problems with grub on amd64 was trying to boot from reiserfs.06:59
NoWhereManguys how do you fetch dependencies with dpkg?06:59
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Fadealthough the problem was transient, and I haven't seen it in some time.06:59
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JoeBlowDamn it feels good to be gangsta06:59
JoeBlowlo06:59
JoeBlowl06:59
kameronFeestbijtje: you need the tcl package, amsn requires it. sudo apt-get install tcltls07:00
seven_six_twoi'm trying to dual, installed grub on mbr, and my linux partition is ext307:00
JoeBlowmy 80 gig maxtor died, 4 days after warranty07:00
JoeBlowjustnow07:00
Razor-X.... I would request everyone follows the CoC and refrain from kicking anyone's anything07:00
matt_Polpak - yes, but it also has a problem with LAN07:00
JoeBlowseven_six_two, alright, whats the problem07:00
JoeBlowseven_six_two, installed linux, THEN windows, and now u cant go into linux?07:00
kameronJoeBlow: ouch!!07:00
FeestBijtjekameron, i remember that i installed that last time but the error was diffrence07:00
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polpakJoeBlow: you need to reinstall grub07:01
kameronFeestbijtje: the error right now is that amsn depends on that package. is it installed?07:01
polpakJoeBlow: windows blew away your mbr07:01
JoeBlowkameron, yea, i lost 13 seasons of the simpsons07:01
Dr_Willis:)07:01
kameronJoeBlow: double ouch!!07:01
Dr_Willis"doh!"07:01
JoeBlowpolpak, im helping someone out, i was just repeating their problem, im good07:01
seven_six_twoJoeBlow, no. xp pro was there07:01
luckyhi guys.  I mounted my NTFS windows partition but only root can access the files, is there any way i can change the permissions so a normal user can read/write the files?07:01
Razor-XJoeBlow: if you haven't gotten rid of the Windows partition, it's all still there07:01
Dr_Willis!ntfs07:01
ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK07:01
JoeBlowseven_six_two, ok so whats wrong?07:01
seven_six_twoinstalled ubuntu into last 4gb of drive07:01
matt_polpak - its not a wireless problem - does adept use port 80 or another port - do you know?07:02
JoeBlowrazor-X , windows partition, lol, i threw the drive out the window07:02
seven_six_twobut now neither will boot, and getting GRUB error 1607:02
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luckyDr_Willis thanks07:02
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FeestBijtjekameron, Houston we've got an problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/675107:02
polpakmatt_: no it doesn't. It just connects out07:02
Razor-XJoeBlow: *ahem*07:02
matt_then thats strange!07:02
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steve12hey07:02
kameroni have about 200gb of movies, music, backups, etc, on an NTFS partition. i'd like to convert it to ext3. how would i do that? or would it be best to dd it to another drive, and reformat, then put data back on?07:02
steve12can i successfully update ubuntu hoary to the breezey07:02
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JoeBlowrazor-X , i dunno, i would follow the reinstalling grub instructions using the live cd, i was getting grub errors, and what happened was, a harddrive died, 10 minutes ago07:02
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Razor-XJoeBlow: meh07:03
polpakmatt_: I'd suggest trying a live cd and see if you can connect to the outside07:03
kameronFeestbijtje: do you have multiverse, universe, etc, all in your sources.list ?07:03
seven_six_twothis hd still works fine. I just used it this morning07:03
Fadekameron -- back it up to another disk, but don't use dd07:03
JoeBlowrazor-X , dude, it was dead07:03
FeestBijtje*suicides*07:03
kameronFade: use what?07:03
Razor-XJoeBlow: I understand07:03
matt_also when installing debian again the dlink wont allow the install to fetch updates but the linksys will!07:04
Fadecpio is a good choice for that.07:04
JoeBlowrazor-X , installing windows finally killed it, and now im gonna get billy boy07:04
Fadeso is tar.07:04
Razor-Xyou may want to throw it in the freezer, take it out, and dd the thing07:04
FeestBijtjekameron, you mean the extra respons... thingy's07:04
steve12It will work?07:04
polpakmatt_: I think there's a problem with the dlink.. not with the installer07:04
Koruptpolpak, what package has libstdc++5?07:04
matt_i agree07:04
kameronFeestbijtje: repositories, yes07:04
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JoeBlowrazor-X , Im gonna do the same thing the UN would do, be very very angry, and write him a letter telling him how im angry07:04
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kameron!tell FeestBijtje about repositories07:04
matt_I wondered what was special about the installation or adept when connecting to the internet07:04
JoeBlowrazor-X, weird idea07:04
JoeBlowrazor-X, does it really work?07:05
Fadeif you use dd, you'll end up with an image of an ntfs partition, complete with geometry and everything.07:05
Razor-XJoeBlow: it does07:05
matt_that is allowed by the linksys but not the dlink07:05
Razor-XJoeBlow: I've recovered stuff like that07:05
kameron!tell FeestBijtje about easysource07:05
duckx0ri'm trying to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, but when I do `apt-get dist-upgrade` it wants to uninstall kubuntu-desktop... is there a way around this so that I don't lose everything?07:05
polpakKorupt: dunno07:05
JoeBlowrazor-X, thats pretty cool07:05
polpakduckx0r: you can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop.07:05
steve12HEY guys, how do i get my wireless working??07:05
Fadewhich is why dd is the simplest way to make an iso9660 image of a cdrom: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/ubuntu-breezy.iso bs=51207:05
kameronduckx0r: you can reinstall it later.07:05
duckx0rpolpak, will i lost all the settings?07:05
polpakduckx0r: removing it won't kill anything07:05
duckx0roh ok ty guys07:06
polpakduckx0r: no, those are in your home directory07:06
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kameronduckx0r: i don't think so, it's in your home directory07:06
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kameronpolpak, you're too quick man :P07:06
steve12I dont understand the proccess of making the pc understand it's there07:06
polpakkameron: =)07:06
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kameronFade: cpio or tar.. okay thanks bud.07:06
Faden'p07:07
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AngryAngryHipposhey07:07
AngryAngryHipposany ubuntu gurus around?07:07
duckx0rnope07:07
Fadeis it a trick question? :)07:07
steve12lol07:07
AngryAngryHipposhaha07:07
AngryAngryHipposI understand you're looking for LTSP testers07:07
Koruptpolpak can you post that FF1.5 link again?07:08
Inf3ctedFxDoes anyone knows how to make it work the xmms2? or how to make it run?07:08
Fademmmmmm teh lisp is the tru path.07:08
polpak!ff1.507:08
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:08
Fadeunfortunately sbcl is currently broken. =(07:08
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julioHi07:08
ksmurfanyone running dapper having issues with the gnome main-menu07:08
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Fadeclisp and gcl appear to work, though.07:08
JoeBlow!kubuntu07:09
ubotukubuntu is, like, Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/07:09
julioI hve instatalled here in my CEDEGA PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 and COUNTER STRIKE 1.6.. but when i click in the exe of that two, anything do!07:09
steve12i want my wireless working07:09
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kameronjulio: you can try #ubuntu-pt07:09
Fadebut I don't know anything about a request for LISP testers, above and beyond the fact that testers are always welcome.07:09
steve12but i dont know how to enable dhcp, or even get it to work... It's a ibm r40 and it's detected but network gives me only eth0 which is the RJ4507:09
gnomefreakdid you read the wiki on wifi?07:09
ompaulAngryAngryHippos, may I suggest that you check out #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-devel one of those will deal with the LTSP stuff07:10
julioyes i know kameron07:10
steve12umm07:10
kameronjulio: okay, just letting you know! :P07:10
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gnomefreak!wifi07:10
juliobut the community of there cant explain anything07:10
ubotuwell, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto07:10
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steve12laptop no interneto07:10
julioxD07:10
julioI hve instatalled here in my CEDEGA PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 and COUNTER STRIKE 1.6.. but when i click in the exe of that two, anything do!07:10
steve12thank u07:10
AngryAngryHipposok thx ompaul07:10
ksmurfsteve 12 what type of lappy07:10
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ompaulAngryAngryHippos, thank you for hanging around long enough for someone to be able to catch up on conversation :-)07:10
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julioif i copy the WINDOWS folder of the WINDOWS XP and put in the cedega.. my games function ok?07:11
FeestBijtjejoy!07:11
polpakjulio: I don't think that's advisable07:11
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ompaulAngryAngryHippos, we have had people leave inside 30 seconds rare but it happens :) did not expect such a result given the subject matter07:11
juliohm.. my friends did it.. they saied of the game function xD07:12
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juliopolpak: I hve instatalled here in my CEDEGA PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 and COUNTER STRIKE 1.6.. but when i click in the exe of that two, anything do!07:12
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polpakjulio: well you're welcome to try it I suppose07:12
polpakjulio: I certainly don't have any alternative suggestions07:12
juliopolpak: But you think of it function?07:13
TheAspjulio: some games work, some don't07:13
ksmurfanyone running dapper having issues with the gnome main-menu.  I'm just trying to confirm b4 writing a bug07:13
julioTheAsp07:13
steve12how safe is it going from hoary to breezy07:13
polpaksteve12: pretty safe07:13
ksmurfsteve very safe07:13
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steve12so07:13
polpakubotu tell steve12 about breezy07:13
julioBut in one time i can play... but nao NO07:13
drayenhelp! i seem to have corrupted both the primary and alternate superblocks on my external 160gb ext3 hard disk, i've tried running e2fsck /dev/sda1 and with -b 8193, but both tell me the superblock is corrupt? ???? help07:13
Kindredjulio you could always try #cedega I guess07:14
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Fadecopying your windowsxp windows folder into the cedega directory in your $HOME won't work... it's probably a good way to break things.07:14
FeestBijtjeEvery thing works as it worked :)07:14
julioyes.. but the people there DONT HELP!07:14
steve12umm do I not just install some new sources and type sudo apt-get upgrade?07:14
julioKindred: But the people there dont helo07:14
juliohelp07:14
FeestBijtjekameron, That was the fuckin problem :) ty for the help *hug*07:14
polpaksteve12: read the wiki07:14
steve12Darn Intelligent AIs here polpak07:14
steve12polpak: thank u07:14
kameronsteve12: you install sources, and type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:14
polpaksteve12: sure07:14
kameron!tell steve about breezy07:15
ompaul!upgrade07:15
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:15
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polpakkameron: I did that already =007:15
kameronsteve: read that07:15
steve12nononono i'm there Dude :P07:15
ompaulsteve that should help you07:15
ksmurfhttp://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=Main_Page07:15
kameronpolpak: slow down mang!!! haha.07:15
kameronFeestBijtje: anytime buddddy. the new 1.95 is REALLY nice, i like it a lot.07:15
Fadewhen you add a new source to /etc/apt/sources.list you have to run 'apt-get update' to update the available packages db locally on your machine.07:15
ompaulFeestBijtje, can you take it easy with the language07:15
ksmurfjulio http://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=Main_Page is a great gaming resource07:15
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IdleOne!tcl07:15
ubotuIdleOne: Are you smoking crack?07:15
IdleOneheh07:16
Fadethen you can run the upgrade with the new sources.07:16
IdleOneseems I am07:16
ompaulIdleOne, the answer is !yes07:16
ksmurfIdleOne Share?07:16
Kindred!crack07:16
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.07:16
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juliohm..07:16
mondianyone here use newton?07:16
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IdleOne!weed07:16
ubotuNot a clue, IdleOne07:16
ksmurf!yes07:17
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, ksmurf?07:17
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FeestBijtjekameron,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102299&highlight=AMSN <= use that if ur lazy ;)07:17
xandrixsorry guys i have a slite problem im denied even as sudo or root i cant access anything thats on localhost07:17
polpakmondi: I've looked at it.. Haven't tried it yet07:17
FeestBijtjei know ive worked with the newest CVS version07:17
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polpakxandrix: anything like... ?07:17
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xandrixssh wont even work on localhost07:17
mondiwhat do u guys use for desktop wiki?07:17
polpakxandrix: did you install the daemon?07:17
ksmurfxandrix have u tried going into a single session?07:17
xandrixanything on localhost trying to access localhost wont work07:17
kameronFeestBijtje: wow that's REALLY lazy. i didn't think it was very difficult. but i know from past versions that it uses tcl07:17
FeestBijtjei use wiki as a god its the god of knowlige07:18
juliohey msn... if i copy my WINDOWS folder of WINDOWS where i put it? and.. if i put in the correct place it function correct?07:18
FeestBijtjekameron, its like when ur doing it manual onlly automatic :)07:18
xandrixpolpak, yes i did install the deamon07:18
kameronFeestBijtje: haha, pretty much07:18
mondiI mean what application do u use for ur desktop wiki?07:18
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juliohey msn... if i copy my WINDOWS folder of WINDOWS where i put it? and.. if i put in the correct place it function correct?07:18
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polpakxandrix: netstat -an | grep listen   does it show port 22 open? and on which IP ?07:19
FeestBijtjekameron, its precise like: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7527607:19
FeestBijtjeonly simpel07:19
FeestBijtje4 commands and 1 password and ur on msn07:19
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biazinhaae07:19
biazinhatoda essa galera ai usa ubuntu ?07:19
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julioi have isntaled here in my CEDEGa counter Strike.. but when i click in the COUNTER STRIKE EXE... anything do!!!!!!!!!!!! plz help-me07:19
gnomefreakstill have to pay for chat in msn (chatrooms)07:19
juliosim biazinha07:19
kameronFeestBijtje: wow, people are lazy.07:19
juliomais aqui e uma comunidade internazional07:19
biazinhaalguem pode me ajudar ?07:19
juliobiazinha07:20
xandrixpolpak, bad exemple but when i run kismet it wont connect cuz its denied access to localhost and the port its weird07:20
julioentre na comunidade #ubuntu-br07:20
biazinha[[julio] ] : obrigada07:20
julioa nao ser que voce fale ingles07:20
biazinhahello07:20
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biazinhasomebody here can help me ?07:20
biazinhaplease ?07:20
polpakxandrix: what is kismet?07:20
juliomelhoro xD07:20
steve12I get a error, I tried entering synaptics but I get07:20
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julioqual teu problema biazinha?07:20
xandrixpolpak, its a wifi sniffer the best one there is07:20
gnomefreak!br07:21
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.07:21
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steve12Child Terminated with 1 status, what the heck this mean?07:21
biazinha[julio] : eu instalei esse negocio de linux, e agora nao consigo configurar a webcam07:21
julio!tell biazinha about ubuntu-br07:21
xandrixpolpak, it runs a server on localhost then the client and gui connects to it from and to localhost but its denied07:21
julioxD07:21
julioeu tbm tenhu.. mas ta foda =/07:21
FeestBijtjekameron, well  i can tell it you verry simple07:21
kameronwho maintains ubotu?07:21
biazinha[julio] : entra la07:21
polpakxandrix: and you're sure the server is running and listening on the right port?07:21
kameronFeestBijtje: tell me what?07:21
xandrixpolpak, yes07:21
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julio!tell biazinha about webcam07:22
polpakxandrix: what port is it supposed to be on?07:22
FeestBijtjeMy face is inside my bed facing an LSD screen and an trackball mouse and an splitted keyboard07:22
xandrixi straced it and all but iot crashes07:22
xandrix250107:22
marcin`!tell marcin` about webcam07:22
FeestBijtjekameron,  Ive build my computer inside my bed so i don't have to stand up early in the morning to get behind my computer07:22
polpakxandrix: can you pastebin the output of netstat -an | grep LISTEN07:22
biazinha[julio] : e problema no programa07:22
xandrixwell there is nothing at the moment cuz the server shutsdown if the client cant connect for 30 seconds07:22
kameronFeestBijtje: i have a laptop in my bathroom on wifi so i can still be on irc.07:22
juliohm.....07:23
kameronbrb, bathroom07:23
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FeestBijtjeThat won't beat my camera XD07:23
steve12am i screwed?07:23
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steve12Child Terminated with 1 status, what the heck this mean?07:23
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Kindredkameron, cafuego maintains ubotu07:23
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FeestBijtjekameron_onthecan, lol07:23
kameron_onthecancafuego: thanks07:23
kameron_onthecanFeestBijtje: :P07:24
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jonohi all07:24
steve12ok.,,,,,,,,,,,, thank yall for ur help07:24
steve12i out07:24
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jonois OOo2 in Dapper going to use the GNOME picker by default?07:24
kameronKindred: i mean, thanks to you, not cofuego. anyways..07:24
xandrixpolpak, http://pastebin.com/49518707:24
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gnomefreakjono, i would say in ubuntu yes in kubuntu not likely07:25
CanYouHelpMePlzdoes anyone know of a linux audio file converter say, ogg to mp3 with a gui for ubuntu?07:25
xandrixpolpak, got that ?07:25
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polpakxandrix: nothing is listening on that port07:26
gnomefreak!restricted07:26
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats07:26
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xandrixpolpak, omfg i just told u why07:26
xandrixscrew this07:26
gnomefreaklol07:26
Kindredwell..07:26
gnomefreakohwell07:26
polpaklol07:27
polpaksome people are dumbasses07:27
gnomefreak647 feel free to miss what one person says07:27
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gnomefreak:)07:29
JaCk[a] Lhellooooooo07:29
=== gnomefreak sees it as you dont like my answer than figure it out :))
Fadeirc support isn't for people with ADHD and/or low frustration tollerances. ;)07:29
NoWhereManFeestBijtje: did you manage to make it work?07:29
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gnomefreakits just with 600 or so people how do you answer everyones questions right away? :(07:30
FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, yes :)07:30
NoWhereManhow?07:30
CanYouHelpMePlzdoes anyone know of a linux audio file converter say, ogg to mp3 with a gui for ubuntu?07:30
FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, just forgotten to add respos thingy's07:31
NoWhereMangood :)07:31
JaCk[a] Li ve trouble with my reporitories!07:31
JaCk[a] L  i m looking for w32codecs07:31
kameronCanYouHelpMePlz: why would you want to do that?07:31
gnomefreak!codecs07:31
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories07:31
biazinhahow configure amsn and webcam  logitec pro 9400 ?07:31
NoWhereManFeestBijtje: latest release really rox, CVSs are even better :P07:31
CanYouHelpMePlzkameron: because i hav an mp3 playe07:31
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deepspaceantguys is there a way to get bind9 with mysql backend for zones?07:31
kameronCanYouHelpMePlz: ah, true.07:32
gnomefreakubotu tell JaCk[a] L about easysource07:32
FeestBijtjeNoWhereMan, i know check this: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#addrepositories07:32
CanYouHelpMePlzkameron: know of any?07:32
FeestBijtjeBut i have to go lads :(07:32
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FeestBijtjebye kameron & NoWhereMan07:32
kameronCanYouHelpMePlz: no, but im looking07:32
kameronFeestbijtje: take care man! see ya again.07:32
NoWhereManbye07:32
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FeestBijtjeil be here tomorrow so don't worry07:33
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masegstreamer cant play mp3s, what do i do?07:33
CanYouHelpMePlzkameron: looks good http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Convert-3104.shtml07:33
mase!mp307:33
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:33
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testmachinegpierce: well, why?07:33
gnomefreakbtw for the newbies ^^is not a good idea07:33
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gpiercetestmachine--sorry07:34
NoWhereManapropos, does anybody know how to make work gnomebaker?07:34
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testmachinei tried it too :P07:34
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testmachinegpierce: i ment gnomefreak07:34
Acidic32:P07:34
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testmachinegnomefreak: well, why?07:34
Acidic32can i install Ubuntu with KDE default07:34
kamerondamnit, now my gnome desktop is crashing too.07:34
Acidic32using my Ubuntu cd's07:34
gnomefreaktestmachine, from that link the guy just pasted here ill get it07:34
Acidic32not Kubuntu?07:34
SirKillalotdo you know a good tool to compose midi sounds?07:34
kameroni thought it was just kde.07:34
CanYouHelpMePlzno07:34
gnomefreakhttp://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#addrepositories07:34
gnomefreakplease you offical guide07:35
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gnomefreak!ubuntuguide07:35
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead07:35
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Hoxzerwhat other windows emulators are there than wine?07:35
kouwehow do i mount a writeable NTFS drive @ ubuntu....07:35
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gnomefreakkouwe, dont? its not all that good to do that07:35
testmachinekouwe: mount /dev/*** /***07:36
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jendaAny idea what I could possibly do to get a DVD recognised? It seems not to see it. Cleaning doesn't help.07:36
kouwei now have this @ my fstab : /dev/hdc1 /media/data ntfs umask=00007:36
ksmurf!dapper07:36
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.07:36
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testmachinegnomefreak: mwah, mounting is possible07:36
acusterhey all07:36
Kindredhe said writeable.07:36
ksmurf!dapper bugs07:36
ubotuksmurf: I don't know, could you explain it?07:36
kamerongrrr. ubuntu amd64 was so much more stable, but i installed x86 for win32 codecs, wine, etc.07:36
TheAspheh07:36
testmachinekouwe: ah shit07:36
testmachineok07:36
testmachinehehe07:36
acusterhow does one type accented characters from a us keyboard layout?07:36
TheAspreleasing a dist on hitlers birthday07:36
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gnomefreaktestmachine, yes it is but mounting ntfs (writable) is a really really bad idea07:36
kouwenot good?07:36
testmachinewasnt that possible in the new kernel?07:36
biazinhaLOGITECH 9400 PRO  - AMSN07:37
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biazinhaPlease07:37
gnomefreakksmurf, go to the bugzilla and search for the bugs beware there are a lot of them07:37
testmachine2.6.1507:37
kouweso its better to format it as a linux drive?07:37
TheAspgrrr, i can get mplayer to output over spdif directly, but can't get anything else to07:37
testmachinekouwe: yes07:37
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testmachinekouwe: way better07:37
gnomefreaktestmachine, its possible in all kernels just not a good idea07:37
testmachinekouwe: ntfs is bad anyway07:37
kouwei got .12*07:37
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kouwekernel*07:38
gnomefreakuse fat if you want to write07:38
kouwewell then i just format it for linux07:38
kouwebuts ill have 2 backup my movies :)07:38
Hoxzerwhat would be good virtual PC program for running windows?07:38
kouwevmware?07:38
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kouwewell formatting :D07:39
kouwethnx07:39
JaCk[a] L!win07:39
ubotuNot a clue, JaCk[a] L07:39
JaCk[a] L!codecs07:39
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories07:39
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JaCk[a] L!easysource07:39
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:39
jendaMy drive refuses to recognise a DVD. Anything I could do besides scrubbing the disc?07:40
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone tell me what permissions /usr/bin fodler should be?07:40
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acusterany ideas? (right alt used to work in iso**** (western) locales but I don't grok the utf-8 stuff.07:40
acusterubuntu:~> ll /usr/07:40
acustertotal 108K07:40
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Fadeerk07:41
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gnomefreakacuster, please dont paste in here use pastebin for pasting07:41
acusterfreakout man for ten lines07:41
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acusterlife goes on, eh?07:41
gnomefreakacuster, read the topic07:41
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CanYouHelpMePlzgnomefreak: what permissions should my /usr/bin be?07:41
FadeCanYouHelpMePlz: 75507:42
STARSCREAMHi, cany anyone please show me how to mount a fat32 partition so it will be mounted on startup?07:42
CanYouHelpMePlzthanks fade07:42
gnomefreakyeah i think i have it at 755 also07:42
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gnomefreakubotu tell STARSCREAM about mount07:42
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jendaMy drive refuses to recognise a DVD. Anything I could do besides scrubbing the disc?07:44
borisattvai'm trying to install a gaim-rhythmbox plug in, configure step of which fails due to version number failing to meet requirement of being >= 0.79   because it is actually 1.5.0.1 i found an instance of this varibale steting in config.ac and adjsuted and saved it but it still fails. anyone have experience with this?07:44
gnomefreakyep mine is 755 sorry had to check :(07:44
polpakjenda: did you read the DVD part of the restricted formats wiki?07:45
polpakubotu tell jenda about restricted07:45
jendapolpak: It plays DVDs normally07:45
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kremontejenda: software-wise :-)07:45
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masegah07:45
gnomefreakummmmmm how does it play if it doesnt recognize it :(07:45
masecan someone help me install SKYPE?07:45
polpakjenda: ah.. just one particular dvd then07:45
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jendapolpak: yes07:46
masethe guide you guys have is EXTREMELY OUTDATED and the .deb is 404'ed07:46
gnomefreakubotu tell mase about skype07:46
jendakremonte: what?07:46
kremonteoh, 1 dvd07:46
kremontenevermind =P07:46
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ompaul!skype07:47
ubotuskype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/07:47
acusterSeveas: are you a bot?07:47
ompaulmase, that guide?07:47
acusterSeveas: seen jdub07:47
adjacenthow do i measure usb transfer speeds07:47
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polpakacuster: ubotu is the bot07:48
gnomefreakmase, read the 2nd url07:48
STARSCREAMDoes anyone know how I can restart my fstab file to take immediate effect without rebooting?07:48
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ompaulacuster, he is real, and he met jdub a month or two ago07:48
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polpakSTARSCREAM: no, but you can just mount the stuff manually to have the same effect07:48
Seveasacuster, ?07:48
STARSCREAMwell I know I can restart my mounts, how do I do that?07:48
gnomefreaklol are you a bot07:48
ompaulgnomefreak, no you are :P07:48
Seveasacuster, some call me a bot but general agreement in here is that I'm human07:49
gnomefreaki dream of being a bot someday07:49
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Seveasompaul, actually almost 3 months07:49
ompaulSeveas, who is general and what is he in agreement with?07:49
acusterSeveas: oh, sorry to bother you then.07:49
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STARSCREAMDoes anyone know the command to restart all mounts?07:50
jendaSTARSCREAM: mount -a07:50
STARSCREAMcheers jeda07:50
STARSCREAMjedna07:50
STARSCREAMjenda07:50
maseyeah07:50
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masenone of those repos WORK07:50
masethey are all 404's07:50
maseno good07:50
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ompaulmase, Seveas's repos are 404? for skype?07:51
gnomefreakSeveas, hes saying your repos dont work they were working fine for me :(07:51
madehello all07:51
madeI think I screwed up my firefox installation07:51
maseyes07:51
masethey all 40407:51
kameronis there a kmplayer package in ubuntu?07:51
Seveasompaul, bollocks07:51
STARSCREAMcan anyone help me... I need to mount my 3rd partition on my 1st hard which is a fat32 fs, what device is it?07:51
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poningrutry one of the other mirrors then people07:51
ubuntu_hey ppl07:51
=== gnomefreak checking again
maseuh yeah07:51
madeI tried to use the wiki install guide for the update from firefox 1.0.7 to 1.5 and now firefox won't open07:51
masei tried 5 mirros07:51
Seveasmy repos are working fine, some users are stupid though07:51
masethey are all 40407:51
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ompaulSeveas, :)07:52
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maseFailed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/list_of_sections/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found07:52
gnomefreakyep they are working fine :)07:52
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linuxfreedoes anybody knows how can I mount my floppy disk automaticaly?07:52
gnomefreaknot good07:52
n00b-guyguys, how could i install something from a deb archive?07:52
poningrumaddler: whats wrong07:52
Seveasmase, read the wikipage correctly07:52
poningrumade: whats wrong?07:52
Seveasand THEN READ IT AGAIN07:52
poningruoooohh07:52
CanYouHelpMePlzwhats a good way for getting the track info automatically for an audio cd?07:52
poningruyou got served07:52
kameronlinuxfree: add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       007:52
Seveasbecause you are making very stupid mistakes there07:52
poningru!seveas07:53
ubotufrom memory, seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:53
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madeI can't use firefox. .I think I screwed up the install07:53
poningrumade: ok what did you think you did wrong?07:53
gnomefreaki cant remember the command that everyone forgets for ff1.5 :(07:53
ompaulmase, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/extras/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu3_i386.deb that you can't find that?07:53
madeI copy&paste everything correctly into terminal like I did on my first install of ubuntu so that I could upgrade the firefox version07:54
madeand now firefox will not open07:54
gnomefreakdevirte that was it07:54
bambatai've got problems with my proftpd server07:54
madeI know I pasted everything correctly07:54
ompaulmase, download it manually and run apt-get install filename.deb07:54
bambatacan anyone help me07:54
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poningrumade: which instructions did you follow?07:54
STARSCREAManyone know how to mount a windows ntfs drive with read and write access?07:54
polpak!ntfs07:54
ubotuntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK07:54
kameronSTARSCREAM: the kernel does not support writing07:54
madewiki.ubuntu.com  firefox NEWVERSION07:54
linuxfreeThanks, but I cannot open my floppy disk just clicking in the icon - I need to mount first writing in line command!07:55
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jorikIs there something i can do to make my cd-rom go any faster ? i already have DMA enabled (i think, how do i check?) but i still am only getting 50kB/s ... (it feels slower than in windows)07:55
poningrumade: hmm yeah that should have worked07:55
bambataactually users can log in07:55
poningrumade: ok lets try for starters with your profile07:55
madeI know it should have.. I've done it once before without error07:55
poningrumade: go into your home folder07:55
gnomefreak<<<thinks he didnt get rid of 1.0.7 first07:55
ompaulmade,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:55
kameronlinuxfree: yes, i know. but if you add that line to fstab, and then type: mount /dev/fd0, it will be mounted, and even after a reboot, ti will auto mount at boot07:55
bambatabut can't list the repertory07:55
madeok07:55
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poningrumade: press ctrl+h07:56
poningrumade: find .mozilla07:56
linuxfreeok07:56
Hoxzereh... what command I use to run VMware?07:56
madeok07:56
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kameronso there's no kmplayer package for ubuntu hey?07:56
madeit's there07:56
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poningrumade: rename it something like RealMozilla07:57
Dr_Willis!info kmplayer07:57
madefolder/firefox along with plugin.dat07:57
poningrumade: right but rename .mozilla -> RealMozilla07:57
kameronDr_Willis: ?07:57
gnomefreaki thought kubuntu used mplayer also didnt know there was a kmplayer07:57
madeok07:57
madedone07:57
poningrumade: now start up firefox07:57
|Banana|Hey people, who wants some SATA related fun? I'm getting errors on boot with a SATAII drive on an GA-K8NF9 Ultra board. Installing breezy fine, but system won't boot. I'm trying leaving / out of LVM, see if that fixes things.07:58
kouwebut now, how do i format a NTFS drive to a linux drive in linux?07:58
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gnomefreak|Banana|, what errors?07:58
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nase!time07:58
ubotunase: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:58
madeit opens "Starting Firefox Web Browser" on the taskbar.. but then it just closes out with no browser window07:58
poningrukouwe: use gparted07:58
Dr_Williskouwe,  you mean convert? or delete and remake..07:58
poningrumade: hmm07:59
kouweis it possible 2 convert Dr_Willis07:59
|Banana|gnomefreak, command 0x35 timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x21, amongst others. I can give a better idea once I've finished this install attempt, which wont take long07:59
poningrukouwe: not possible07:59
ompaulkouwe, it is possible but you will loose any data07:59
kouwehmmm07:59
poningrukouwe: you have to delete and remake07:59
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kouwethen its the same as delete and remake07:59
kouweponingru with gparted?07:59
madeand I also think that I may have splooged my winxp ide primary hda07:59
madewhen I installed. .07:59
poningru!gparted07:59
ubotuponingru: Syntax error in line 107:59
ompaul!info gparted08:00
poningrukouwe: helping made right now hold on just a sec08:00
ompaulPackage 'gparted' does not exist.08:00
kouweok08:00
kouweill installed it08:00
kouweapt-get install08:00
nasehow do i ajust time? it keeps telling me im in berlin!!!08:00
gnomefreaklol ompaul i had it08:00
madeI installed ubuntu on the ide primary slave with winxp in the primary master08:00
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nasenow sydney?? wtf08:00
gnomefreak!partion08:00
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak08:00
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set_bonsoir08:01
ompaulgnomefreak, fdisk /dev/hdXN is the way forward there08:01
poningrumade: ok hmm08:01
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kouwei have gparted running08:01
STARSCREAMAnyone, is it possible to make an NTFS partition writable from ubuntu?08:01
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madewould grub take over the primary master mbr?08:01
kremonte!ntfs08:01
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK08:01
|Banana|gnomefreak, <grr> getting errors in the installer now. They seem to come and go. "ATA: abnormal status 0xD) on port 0x9F7"08:01
CanYouHelpMePlzwhats a good way for getting the track info automatically for an audio cd?08:01
cduby1nase, right-click the date and select Adjust Date and Time08:01
gnomefreakubotu tell STARSCREAM about ntfs08:01
poningrumade: yeah08:01
STARSCREAMIve been there08:01
ompaulSTARSCREAM, not at this time- blame the people who developed it for not releasing documentation08:01
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STARSCREAMbut it doesnt mention writable08:02
|Banana|sda: Current: sense key: Hardware Error\nAdditional sense: No additional sense information08:02
STARSCREAMah i see08:02
kouweponingru, but now gparted would only see my hda1&hda2 but not my ntfs driver hdc108:02
STARSCREAMso its impossible then?08:02
madewhat would I do to get my master boot record back in order to run winxp again.. *sigh*08:02
gnomefreakSTARSCREAM, not a good idea to write to ntfs08:02
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poningrumade: hmm look into !grub08:02
kameronmade: install-mbr08:02
acusterwriting to ntfs is possible just not a good idea08:02
gnomefreakits possible but not recomended08:02
cduby1CanYouHelpMePlz, methinks SoundJuicer automagically searches the CDDB......08:02
poningru!tell made about grub08:02
cduby1at least it does on mine08:03
kameronmade: err, sorry, it's this: fdisk install-mbr08:03
kouweponingru, but now gparted would only see my hda1&hda2 but not my ntfs driver hdc108:03
acusterSTARSCREAM: better is to have another partition to transfer data between *nix and win08:03
poningrukameron: would that detect everything?08:03
gnomefreakyay OOo updates :)08:03
ompaulSTARSCREAM, you can but you have to run windows software inside your Linux kernel space to even try - horrible - as acuster said - do a stepped approach use fat32 in the middle08:03
poningrukouwe: ok thats weird because hdc is usually used for cd drives08:03
kouwegot it vnc wasmnt that big to show that :$08:04
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kameronshit shit shit.. made: okay, sorry, this is definitely the right command, i was trying to think about it: sudo install-mbr /dev/hda08:04
kameronponingru: it reinstalls the default windows bootloader08:04
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poningrukameron: but he doesnt want that08:04
poningruhe wants grub08:04
kameron"what would I do to get my master boot record back in order to run winxp again.. *sigh*"08:04
gnomefreakkameron, you might want to tell it grub08:04
poningruwith windows08:04
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gnomefreak!grub08:05
ubotugrub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting08:05
poningrukouwe: I will be right with you dude hold on just a sec08:05
gnomefreaktheres a few ways :)08:05
madewill that wiki grub guide show me how to boot win and nix as a selector?08:05
drayenHi could someone help me with my extenral hard disk, its a ext2/3 disk but it seems to have corrupt superblocks even when useing the alt... im not sure if i am just trying to run e2fsck on the wrong thing or what, but i'm going crazy as its got years worth of work on it.... please...08:05
poningrumade: look at the trouble shooting08:05
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kameronmade: to install grub, configure it, and: sudo grub-install /dev/hda08:05
poningruwait08:05
pippijnhi all08:05
madebut I still can't run firefox..08:06
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pippijnin the card list there are no cards at all.. only "unlisted card" and in that unlisted card area I see only ati and vmware08:06
s_spiffcant run firefox?08:06
cutterjohnhello08:06
s_spiff as in?08:06
madeI did the renaming but it still won't work08:06
Hoxzerhow do I get my self out of vmware window?08:06
s_spiffu mean u tried installing ff 1.5?08:07
yatesyHoxzer: control and alt usually08:07
madeuhh yeah..08:07
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cutterjohnI was wondering if anyone might be able to offer some insight into a network problem?  (May not be a network problem after all, but...)08:07
s_spiffand now even if u click on the icon for FF, nothing loads?08:07
knoppix_hi, one simple question: where does synaptic store the packages it downloads and installs?08:07
madeit opens "Starting Firefox Web Browser" on the taskbar.. but then it just closes out with no browser window08:07
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poningrumade: one problem at a time08:07
poningrumade: which one do you want to solve first?08:07
CanYouHelpMePlzcan anyone tell me why ubuntu see's .aac as mpeg4 video?08:08
madeok.. sorry.. many apologies08:08
drayenask away cutter... worst they will do is pay no attention08:08
Kindredknoppix_: /var/cache/apt/archives08:08
s_spiffyeah, made : what you do is, go through the whole installation procedure again, there are some files missing, which the wiki talks about in the starting08:08
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madefirefox.. so that I can view the troubleshooting08:08
cutterjohnDrayen, thx08:08
knoppix_Kindred: thx08:08
s_spiff load those, and you should be on your way08:08
poningrumade oh true08:08
s_spiff i'm a noob, but I did it some time back08:08
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cutterjohnHere goes, I've got a powerpc Ubuntu linux(5.04) running dialup and acting as a router for my LAN.08:08
dickmcanyone know where to get the mp3 plugin for GnomeBaker??  Thanks08:08
yatesymade: run it in a terminal08:08
s_spiff and had  to format my hdd the 1st time cuz i didnt know how to work it out08:08
kameroncutterjohn: sounds like a fun project08:09
poningrumade: ok open up a terminal and start firefox there see what errors it gives08:09
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cutterjohnThe notebook connects via 802.11b(bridge) to the wired portion of the LAN, on which I've got a08:09
cutterjohnFreeBSD & win2k box.  The problem that I've been having is that https connections for the win2k08:09
gnomefreakdial-up wioth a router :( i was never able to find router for dial- up:(08:09
made/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:09
xophErhow unstable is dapper ?08:09
cutterjohnbox are unable to sustain bandwidth in transfers(took ~3h to xfer 2.5M), while http & ftp xfers08:10
gnomefreakvery08:10
poningrumade: you obviously didnt go through that step08:10
cutterjohncan sustain 4.4k and ~2k ish respectivel...08:10
madeohh damn.. I did miss that..08:10
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poningrumade: simple to fix08:10
madedamn . I feel like a complete dumbass noob08:10
madeok ok08:10
gnomefreakxophEr, it can and more than likely will break something your best off waiting till end of april08:10
s_spiffhehe08:10
cutterjohnIs is likely that the https protocol is the source of the problem  (BTW: the problem actually shows up in a game update utility, and the dev insists that it's a network issue...)08:10
kameronmade: we've all felt that way before, but don't worry about it. you have to crawl before you can walk. :-)08:10
s_spiff i thought he missed that .08:10
s_spiffi did the same08:10
poningrusudo apt-get install libstdc++508:10
cdubyaCanYouHelpMePlz, have you tried to open it with Rhythmbox at all?08:11
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madekameron: right on08:11
CanYouHelpMePlzcdubya: got it working thanks08:11
cutterjohnI've tried re-adjusting, my linux router setting, and firestarter IPTABLE rules, changing ffrom wwwoffle to squid again...08:11
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cdubyanp08:11
_asraniel__hi, i have to find out on which ubuntu mirror a certain application is that i installed with apt-get, is that possible?08:11
dickmcanyone know where to get the mp3 plugin for GnomeBaker??  Thanks08:11
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cutterjohn(thosejust tunnel the connection), tried modifying ethernet card setting in win2k, but no luck (I personally think its the update utility)08:12
som1anyone has exprience convincing his family to use ubuntu? :)08:12
s_spiffhey any1 knows where I can find more of these desktop toys?08:12
poningrumade: yeah what kameron said08:12
s_spiffhaha, I did som108:12
madeok ok.. it's done...08:12
kameronponingru: werd08:12
madelmco08:12
cutterjohn(but it works fine for broadband people, and those with direct connections, which I can't test right now as no ext. modems or even an internal one...)08:12
s_spifflmco?08:12
amonkeyhow can i figure out which serial port is which?08:12
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madeLauging my culo off08:12
s_spifflol ok.08:12
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kamerons_spiff: Laughing my culo off, duh08:13
cutterjohnso, anyone have any other suggestions? or anything obvious that I may be overlooking?08:13
cutterjohn(or nonobvious...)08:13
s_spiffi dunno what culo off is..but.. seems to be funny08:13
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s_spiff:P08:13
jorgp!w32codecs08:13
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:13
Kindred_asraniel__: apt-cache policy appname08:13
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kameroncutterjohn: everything you typed.. it was a lot, paste it into a pastebin, and i'll read that, it was hard to keep up.08:13
poningrumade: did it work?08:13
kameron!tell john about paste08:13
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madeyes it worked08:13
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madebut it's back to 1.0708:13
cutterjohnokey, want a msg of it?08:13
s_spiffsorry, disconnected by mistake08:14
made*1.0.708:14
kameroncutterjohn: link to the pastebin in channel08:14
s_spiff som1  , please do not send pm's, open chat is just fine :P08:14
LordLinuxI have a quick question.08:14
madeI'm going to so thru the install..08:14
s_spiffI got my dad to use it08:14
Dr_AcemasterI can ping a windows box, but can't find it with file browser, how do I find it with file browser?08:14
s_spiff though, its just  a start.08:14
cutterjohnoops, ok, now I'm at a loss... what's a pastebin?08:14
Kindredmade I think you'll find the about box says that but it isn't, if I recall correctly08:14
kameron!tell john about paste08:14
cdubyasom1, I always try to get family to use it.08:14
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B_166-ER-Xi keep putting some gdesklets network apps on my desktop, but ...they keep disapearing by there own after a few minutes...the other Gdesklets apps have no problem..08:14
som1cutterjohn, its pastebin.com, a place to paste long things08:14
madebrb.08:14
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cutterjohnah, ok... thx... brb08:15
B_166-ER-Xwhat could be the reason ?08:15
kameronsoml: well, being a linux channel, we prefer to use: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ <--- cutterjohn08:15
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cutterjohn(i'd never heard of it before...)08:15
madethat's not it m8.. I've installed it before.. and it says 1.5 in the about08:15
cutterjohnd'oh... ok going there..08:15
LordLinuxhow does one become a download mirror ?08:15
deepspaceantguys im getting this erro rwhen compiling bind9 what do i need ar program not found.  Please fix your PATH to include the directory in08:15
deepspaceantwhich ar resides, or set AR in the environment with the full path to ar.08:15
s_spiffwhats this pastebin nad paste.ubuntu..yada yada?08:15
linuxfreedoes anybody know how can I convert .OGG files (ogg theora) (movie) to .MPEG or .AVI - I want to make a VCD.08:15
kameroncutterjohn: it doesn't _really_ matter, but the ubuntu one has the nice logos and what not :P08:16
madebrb08:16
poningrukouwe: dude you still there?08:16
LordLinuxanyone up for a quick question?08:16
poningruLordLinux: yeah08:16
mwelinuxfree: are you aware that converting from one compressed format to another means a pretty fair amount loss of quality?08:16
ColonelPanique!anyone08:16
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>08:16
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s_spiffhey how do i create a launcher/icon on my desktop for my home folder?08:17
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LordLinuxI want to offer some bandwidth and ftp space to ubuntu.08:17
kamerons_spiff: what window manager?08:17
poningrumwe: it does if the compression is lossy08:17
s_spiffi'm on kde actually08:17
poningruLordLinux: there is an email address for that hold on let me dig it up08:17
s_spiff i  mean I got ubuntu, but just i nstalled the kde meta package 2 days back08:17
kameronLordLinux: get in touch with Seveas, i'm sure he'll be able to help you out. or.. help you help us :D08:17
deepspaceantguys im getting this error rwhen compiling bind9 what do i need ar program not found.08:17
LordLinuxthanks08:18
s_spiffwhats bind9?08:18
LordLinuxDNS server08:18
B_166-ER-Xi keep putting some gdesklets network apps on my desktop, but ...they keep disapearing by there own after a few minutes...the other Gdesklets apps have no problem.. anyone have and idea ?08:18
LordLinuxBerkley Internet Name Daemond08:18
deepspaceantdont really matter what it is where can i find th eAR Archiver08:18
LordLinuxBerkley Internet Name Daemon08:18
s_spiffouu ok, no clue man.08:18
poningruLordLinux: mirrors@ubuntu.com08:18
LordLinuxthx08:18
LordLinuxmuch  appriciated08:18
s_spiffhow to create short cuts/ icons on desktop for home folder?08:18
LordLinuxI have an unmetered box on dual oc-12's. just wanna help08:19
poningruLordLinux: also there is a email list which you can use if that email doesnt work hold on08:19
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poningruLordLinux: ubuntu-mirrors@lists.ubuntu.com08:20
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poningruLordLinux: also take a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/mirror08:20
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poningrus_spiff: just drag and drop it from the menu08:20
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s_spiffok08:21
s_spiffthanks08:21
madealrighty.. I now have Firefox 1.5 installed and working..08:21
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cutterjohnkameron, link is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/675508:21
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kameroncutterjohn, ty08:21
s_spiffmade : cool08:21
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madeponingru: what did you say I should do about the grub thing?08:22
s_spiffyou should check out their session saver plugin08:22
s_spiff its neat08:22
cutterjohnhmmm.. oops I noticed that it didn't wrap lines...08:22
igaaahi08:22
poningrumade: cool08:22
bubblenutHi, anyone know how I can get songs onto my PSP? I've connected it with a usb cable but my laptop (running breazy) won't recognise that it's there.08:22
poningrumade: !grub08:22
methocould someone help me with the wireless networking, i got belkin f5d7010, IEEE 802.11g/54mbps, i have no clue what needs to be done!!!!!!08:22
poningru!grub08:22
ubotu[grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting08:22
poningruok that link is wrong08:22
igaaacould someone tell me how to make the optical output work ?08:22
s_spiffanyways08:22
s_spiff good night people [ or whatever time it is there ] 08:23
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s_spiff cya tomorrow08:23
poningruhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto08:23
gnomefreakubotu tell metho about wifi08:23
poningrumade: look at that and follow the instructions for grub-update08:23
igaaawith an internal Intel AC97 audio card08:23
kameroncutterjohn: omfg, that shit's over my head. but one question: how can you afford a win2k, bsd, and linux box, but not a decent internet connection?08:23
poningrubrb08:24
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madethx. I'll brb. hopefully one of these days I will be able to assist people in this channel08:24
|Banana|<grrr> thought I'd cracked it then08:24
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cvt|kdesomebody is trying to give ppl a trojan on yahoo. can that affect me?08:25
leafwwhich of all the /etc/rcX.d or /etc/init.d scripts is in control of the apache web server? There are K and S entries for it. Is this explained somewhere?08:25
|Banana|I left out LVM entirely, it fscks ok, and then  get screen fulls complaining about such things as "DeviceFault CorrectedError Error". :/08:25
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cutterjohnkameron, win2k box is 5y old, FreeBSD box in something like 8u old, and notebooks is also c. 5y old08:26
Overscun salut tout le monde08:26
Overscun=)08:26
insomndhi. i am helping my friend over the phone to install ubuntu,08:26
cutterjohn(pretty low specs too...)08:26
polpak!fr08:26
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ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:26
LordLinuxthank you everyone.08:26
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cutterjohn(... and no good broadband carriers in the area ATM...)08:26
insomndshe has an old toshiba protege 311008:26
kameroncutterjohn: ah, okay.08:26
poningrumade: let me know if you do run into trouble08:26
poningrukouwe: you still there dude?08:27
Hoxzerhow do I transfer files between VMware virtual PC and the host?08:27
insomndwe can't seem to boot up from external cdrom08:27
insomndany ideas?08:27
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poningruinsomnd: yes08:27
poningruinsomnd: hold on08:27
Overscunlol08:27
cutterjohnkameron, thx for trying, I've looked into everything that I could think of and frankly if I can sustain bandwidth on http connections, I should also be able to via https as that is just encrypted http...08:27
salomohello! Anyone knows howto remove an item from gnome menu by hand?08:27
Overscunany one there speak french ?08:27
cutterjohnkameron, very annoying...08:27
gazhow does Synaptic work does it only show packages that are stored in the cache or does it access the internet also?08:27
insomndponingru, thanks08:27
kameronOverscun: se joindre d'essai #ubuntu-fr08:27
kameronOverscun: Je suis parle francais08:28
Overscuntks08:28
Overscun=)08:28
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poningruinsomnd: do you have a floppy drive?08:28
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gnomefreaksalomo, look for menu editor in systemtools08:28
insomndponingru, she does yes08:28
djk_how do i list all files that'll be installed via kubuntu-desktop ?08:28
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kameronOverscun: Je parle francais, je signifie..08:29
kameronman i'm rusty.08:29
cutterjohnkameron, you wouldn't happen to know of someone else I could bounce that off of, or of someplace else to try would you?08:29
gnomefreakyou can add remove apps from menu there salomo08:29
insomndponingru, however i am unsure if it is working08:29
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cutterjohnJe parle un peux francais?08:29
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poningruinsomnd: http://btmgr.webframe.org/08:29
cutterjohn(or is it the other way aaround...)08:29
poningruwoah08:29
insomndponingru ok08:30
kameroncutterjohn: do you mean another channel to ask in, or what?08:30
top222Hello... could someone please msg me the contents of the original sources.list of Ubuntu Hoary (5.04)?08:30
poningruinsomnd: dude if it doesnt work there might be problems08:30
gnomefreakubotu tell top222 about sources08:30
insomndponingru, no way to boot from external cdrom?08:30
cutterjohnkameron: another channel, another person, a web site, pretty much anything/place...08:30
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poningruinsomnd: you may wanna try and update the bios08:30
insomndponingru ok thanks08:30
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cutterjohnkameron: I've been beating on that problem for about a week off and on, and it's driving me nuts...08:31
gnomefreakyuck at flashing bios :(08:31
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poningruinsomnd: let me know if you have probs with that boot manager08:31
poningrugnomefreak: hehe08:31
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polpakcutterjohn: I'm not sure I understand what the problem is..08:31
madeok08:31
gnomefreak:) good luck08:31
kameronpolpak: https isn't sustaining bandwidth in his network configuration08:31
jhhghgkcan someone tell me a file that loads at start that i can add entries too....08:31
jhhghgklike what rc.local used to do08:31
simonvchey, what do i apt-get to install the kernel src's?08:31
kameroncutterjohn: honestly, sorry to say it, but when i have hard quiestions that #ubuntu can't answer, i try #mandriva08:32
insomndponingru so can she use the bootmanager to boot from the cdrom?08:32
cutterjohnpolpak: erm, did you get the pastebin link?  basically my https connections aren't sustaining transfer bandwidth, and exhibiting basic flakiness..08:32
poningruinsomnd: yeah08:32
insomndponingru, seems cool enough :)08:32
madenow I understand grub.. and if I am correct I should be able to boot into winxp thru grub without setting up anthing. correct?08:32
cvt|kdewill someone test a link for danger?08:32
kameronpolpak, cutterjohn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/675508:32
madeexcept for the timeout,.08:32
polpakcutterjohn: any https connection?08:32
cutterjohnkameron: would that be on the freenode network as well?08:32
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poningrumade: it should have set it up for you08:32
kameroncutterjohn: yes sir08:32
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gnomefreakmade, if you installed win first grub automaticlly sees it08:32
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inventor_rules?08:33
madeok.. I'm going to test it out and I'll see you on the flipside..08:33
madebrb..08:33
kameroncutterjohn: all the distros have a channel here, aswell as help for programming languages, programs like wine, etc.08:33
rickardHi08:33
poningruinventor_: ?08:33
cutterjohnpolpak: well, thats my other problem, as I couldn't think of any other external https links I could test again, so I just *ducks* assumed that if http & ftp worked fine, so should https... but its not... with that app...08:33
inventor_:)08:33
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asteroidhi08:33
gnomefreakif you install win last than no it hide/overwrites grub and youll not beablet o boot into linux :(08:33
kameroninventor_: /topic ?? i guess. we're not too strict here :P08:33
cutterjohnpolpak: s/again/against/08:33
inventor_i could use some help getting an SMP kernel installed...  anyone?08:33
top222gnomefreak: Almost solved my problem.  I know "hoary universe" and "hoary-security universe" were disabled in the original...08:33
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inventor_thanks in advance08:33
gnomefreakalmost?08:34
asteroidwhy the /dev/device doesn't exist, and if I mknod it, after reboot it doesn't keep ?08:34
polpakcutterjohn: if you open a web browser and go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ does it load?08:34
asteroids/device/video008:34
top222gnomefreak: "hoary main restricted" was enabled... and I guess that "hoary-security main restricted" was also enabled08:34
poningruinventor_: dude go into synaptic, search for smp08:34
gnomefreaktop that link is the offcial hoary sources08:34
inventor_whats synaptic?08:34
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cutterjohnpolpak, hang on, I'll have to go onto one of the machines behind this one(I'm on the routing machine ATM...)08:34
top222gnomefreak: But how about "hoary-updates main restricted"?  Was it enabled or disabled by default?08:34
ompaul!tell inventor_ about synaptic08:35
simonvcinventor: its a touchpad08:35
gnomefreaktop222, dont you want all of them enabled?08:35
djk_how do i list all files that'll be installed via kubuntu-desktop?08:35
inventor_lol08:35
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inventor_thx08:35
ompaulinventor_, the bot has send you a pm and it will tell you lots about the program synaptic08:35
top222gnomefreak: I have a very much mixed system with Debian Unstable and hoary universe... I'd like to downgrade it to its original state and then upgrade to Breezy08:35
butcherbirdinventor_: gui frontend for apt-get08:35
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rickardI just installed ubuntu, but while trying to install graphic drivers it says I need to be root, how do I become root?08:36
top222gnomefreak: That is why I want to know how it was "fresh" out of the box08:36
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inventor_can i just apt-get install the kernel w/ the -smp?  and reboot?08:36
poningruinventor_: you can also do apt-file search smp08:36
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polpakrickard: what graphic drivers?08:36
guest666can someone tell me a file that loads at start that i can add entries too....like what rc.local used to do08:36
inventor_k.. i can do that08:36
methognomefreak: i checked the wifi guide but for it doesnt make any sense to me, are there any alternatives08:36
simonvcrickard, sudo su -08:36
rickardNvidia GeForce08:36
ompaulsimonvc, it is also software, in fact in the case of ubuntu is is mostly software08:36
asteroidI try to run a Quickcam Express (working fine on slack) but Xawtv (or camarama) do not find /dev/video0. Module is load ? what can be the fuck ?08:36
polpakguest666: /etc/rc2.d08:36
salomognomefreak: yes but i installed helix player from bin-file and removed it by hand. and now i can't remove that shortcut using that add/remove-thing.08:36
poningruinventor_: then apt-get install  the package08:36
kameronhow can i restart x without rebooting? damn, i used to remember.08:36
gnomefreaktop222, anything that says universe was disabled same with multiverse08:36
FliesLikeABrickkameron,  ctrl+alt+backspace08:36
polpakkameron: ctrl-alt-backspace08:36
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asteroidI try to run a Quickcam Express (working fine on slack) but Xawtv (or camarama) do not find /dev/video0. Module is load , what can be the fuck ?08:37
gnomefreaksalomo, where is the shortcut?08:37
ompaulrickard, sudo command to do the job - you do not need to do sudo su -08:37
CmaXwow08:37
CmaXjust discovered freenode08:37
guest666polpak is there a certain file there or?08:37
salomoin the soud&video section08:37
top222gnomefreak: Ok.  I will enable all "main" and disable all "universe" and "multiverse" and see what happens.  Thanks.08:37
poningruhehe08:37
CmaXahoy all08:37
polpakrickard: are you following the wiki?08:37
polpak!nvidia08:37
ubotuhmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:37
poningruCmaX: ahoy hoy08:37
Kindredhey there.08:37
salomognomefreak: in the sound&video section08:37
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cutterjohnpolpak: yes, I can get to https://wiki/ubuntu.com, but the xfer rate doesn't appear to be as stable as with plain http... but not nearly as bad as the other problematic app exhibits...08:37
CmaXponingru: *nod*08:37
rickardpolpak what wiki?08:37
polpakguest666: you need to make a start/stop file08:37
polpakubotu tell rickard about nvidia08:38
methocould anyone please help me with the wifi networking, my belkin card is supported by ubuntu08:38
gnomefreaksalomo, im not sure why you cant disable it :(08:38
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salomognomefreak, it has no icon, only text is showing08:38
cutterjohnpolpak: oops, it looks like it actually has gotten worse now...08:38
CmaXmark shuttleworth here tonight?08:38
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guest666polpak i just want to run a firewall rule set file.......08:38
poningrumetho: whats wrong?08:38
cutterjohnpolpak: nm on the worse...08:38
poningruCmaX: look for sabdfl, but he doesnt hang out here usually08:38
gnomefreakmetho, did you read the pm ubotu sent you about wifi?08:39
polpakcutterjohn: what is the app that's giving you trouble?08:39
cutterjohnpolpak: page loaded up fine, I really should test it against a file xfer via https...08:39
kameronpolpak: that restarts x? i thought it just logs me out08:39
gnomefreaksabdfl=mark shuttleworth?08:39
polpakkameron: it force kills X, then gdm will restart it08:39
kamerongnomefreak: yes08:39
methognomefreak: yeah, but didnt make any sense, i am totally noob and i got new wifi card which is supported by linux but i dont know how to install it08:39
cutterjohnpolpak: well, it happens to be a windows game.... }:)  (Minions of Mirth) ...08:39
gnomefreakoh damnnnnnnn08:39
poningrugnomefreak: yeah08:40
kameronpolpak: oh, cool. i didn't realize it restats x. maybe i shouldn't do that to log out? probably bad?08:40
polpakcutterjohn: using wine, or cedega then?08:40
ompaulgnomefreak, yes ...08:40
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poningrumetho: ok you have a laptop right?08:40
kamerondoes SABDFL come here ever?08:40
polpakkameron: not really bad. Just doesn't give your proggies a chance to shutdown08:40
poningrukameron: not usually08:40
cutterjohnpolpak: ah, I'm actually running it on the win2k machine as it's the only one with a GPU capable of running it, so just in windows...08:40
methoponingru: yeah08:40
gnomefreakkameron, yes ive seen him a few times08:40
kameronpolpak, poningru, oh cool, alright08:40
polpakcutterjohn: ah. ok08:40
poningrumetho: plug in your wifi card, and restart the laptop08:40
kamerongnomefreak: oh cool dude. he's like a celebrity to all 656 of us here :P08:40
kameron!sabdfl08:41
ubotukameron: I don't know08:41
kameron!stupid bot08:41
ubotustupid kameron08:41
polpakcutterjohn: well I'd guess that it's actually using a different port08:41
poningrumetho: I am assuming its a pcmcia card08:41
ompaulkameron, don't play with the bot08:41
cutterjohnpolpak: nope, I can see it connecting through port 443 if I watch firestarter's GUI...08:41
_asranielwhat is the easiest way to get the arial font in open office?08:41
methoponingru: restart? shell i leave i leaver the ethernet cable in aswell which is my eth008:41
kameronompaul: i was checking for a sabdfl entry, failing that, decided he was dumb08:41
cutterjohnpolpak: or dump connections in the console...08:41
inventor_not to sound like i don't want to search online.. but i just spent a couple mins and can't find a list of packages.. anyone?08:41
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inventor_kinda new at this apt-get stuff08:41
poningrumetho: yeah make sure the ethernet cable is plugged in08:41
polpakcutterjohn: well, does that game require an inbound port to be open as well? you'll need to set up port forwarding or some such in that case08:42
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poningruinventor_: what proc do you have?08:42
inventor_dual xeon 1ghz08:42
ompaulkameron, if you play with the bot, one of the ops will kick you or I will install you on a fat32 partition and unplug the box :)08:42
methoponingru: ok, be right back m8!!!!!!08:42
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inventor_i386 rather08:42
korridorenexit08:42
kameronompaul: haha, okay. :P08:42
korridorenq08:42
korridorensry08:42
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top222One problem... if I have Debian Unstable packages installed, then how do I downgrade them to the latest Hoary version?08:42
cutterjohnpolpak: ...and it's only the large xfers of the update, as I got in one time and could play online fine, can play other online games fine, it's just the large chunk xfer for updates that seem to kill https xfers over the network...08:42
St0n3-C0lwhere do I put splash screen .png /08:42
ompaulkorridoren,  >>>/quit<<<08:42
top222Or how do I do that downgrade automatically?08:43
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cutterjohnpolpak: i.e. small chunks fly through fine, big chunks and we've got trouble...08:43
kameronSt0n3-c0l: for boot or login?08:43
guest666:(08:43
polpakcutterjohn: well if it's https can you just get the url and try it through your web browser?08:43
St0n3-C0lkameron: http://art.ubuntu.com/themes/splash_screens/308:43
St0n3-C0lthis one08:43
bubblenutAnyone using their PSP via ubuntu?08:44
bubblenutI could really use a little help08:44
cutterjohnpolpak: yes, I was thinking about seeing if i couldn't do that... but it would be unofficial... I was really hoping that this was a fixable problem as it may crop up in other areas in the future...08:44
kameronSt0n3-c0l: hmm, it's not loading.08:44
korridorenI've installed the nvidia driver for my geforce4 4200ti, Horzsync and vertsync are set right, driver is "nvidia". But when I've done all this I loose higher (1600x1200) resolution.08:44
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korridorenAnyone know how to solve this?08:44
polpakcutterjohn: well this would determine if it was an actual network problem or just a problem with the app08:44
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poningruinventor_: apt-get install linux-image-686-smp08:44
St0n3-C0lkameron: working here...anyways tell me for boot ?08:45
poningruerr add a sudo in front of that08:45
ompaultop222, you don't if you want to install something then breezy is the latest release, dapper is tracking unstable and it will be released in april08:45
cutterjohnpolpak: ... and I'm not sure if the game is doing anything funny, the dev claims its 99.99999% likely to be an https problem, not his stuff..08:45
kameronSt0n3-c0l: drop it in /boot, then configure grub to use it08:45
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methoponingru: i restarted my laptop08:45
kameronSt0n3-c0l: and i don't know a lot about grub, ive been using lilo since day 108:45
poningrucool08:45
salomognomefreak, Now I figured it out. You ment that 'applications menu editor'. I thought you ment that 'add programs' -thing. Thanks!08:45
poningrumetho: now go to system08:45
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cutterjohnpolpak: ...and I'm unlikely to be able to get the code, I already tried getting him to setup for manual updates too, but no go...08:46
St0n3-C0lkameron: Np. Thanks for the help :)08:46
methoponingru: ok08:46
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poningrumetho: administrative->network08:46
gnomefreaksalomo, sorry if i wasnt clear08:46
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korridorenWhen I use driver "nv" then I can access higher res but loose 3D-acc and can't use nvidia config utils08:46
polpakcutterjohn: well if you install ethereal you should be able to see the request being made by the app and mimic it with your browser if possible08:46
St0n3-C0lI might use it as my display picture :P08:46
kameronSt0n3-c0l: actually, it's in this book i just bought, i'll look it up for you08:46
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methogot it08:46
methoponingru: i am in08:46
iuhguig?08:46
polpakubotu tell korridoren about fixres08:46
ompaultop222, I would get the breezy CD back up the home partition, do a clean install, put the old home partition somewhere the those who need it can read it and work from there08:46
cutterjohnpolpak:  only one real dev on the project... good pt. polpak, I'll try it out... and see what happens...08:46
poningrumetho: now do you see your card there?08:46
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St0n3-C0lkameron: which one?08:47
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inventor_poningru:  thx much08:47
cutterjohnpolpak: thx for the suggestion btw, as I had forgotten that I was going to try tcpdump on it...08:47
tomplasthi guys08:47
salomognomefreak, No it was my fault. You gave just right solution :)08:47
inventor_trying now08:47
poningruinventor_: you will need a restart08:47
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inventor_i know :)08:48
tomplastcan anyone tell me the easiest way to start creating windows and other graphically thing?08:48
methoponingru: i see ethernet network (eth0, this is ethernet cable connection), other one is ppp0 which is the modem of the laptop(i think but i am not sure)08:48
poningrumetho: hmm08:48
poningruhold on08:48
Saturn5hey08:48
Saturn5tomplast, tcltk ?08:48
poningrumetho: whats the chipset of that card?08:48
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tomplastwhat is that?08:48
korridorenpolpak : thnx for the help. I appriciate it. But the FixVideoResolutionHowto doesn't fix my problem (It do fix initial res problem with the "nv" driver)08:48
methoponingru: make of the card is belkin and model number is f5d701008:49
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kameronSt0n3-c0l: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/index.html08:49
inventor_poningru: any chance this will break my installation when i reboot?08:49
salomognomefreak, This ubuntu works quite well now. My laptop is FS Amilo M7405 and its working just fine. I like this ubuntu and gnome environment.08:49
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St0n3-C0lthanks :)08:49
tomplastSaturn5? what is tcltk?08:49
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kameronSt0n3-c0l: ;)08:49
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rickardwoho, my drivers worked :D08:49
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poningruinventor_: it shouldnt but you can just choose the other kernel on restart if it does08:50
inventor_nice...08:50
poningrumetho: hmm hold on08:50
methoponingru: np!08:50
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djk_could someone with a standard ubuntu do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and pastebin the output please?08:50
tomplastis it supported by ubuntu and kubuntu?08:50
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som1tomplast, www.tcl.tk ;)08:51
kameronSt0n3-c0l: how about i write you a short tutorial, and throw it on pastebin, that cool?08:51
salomognomefreak, I even got streaming real media ja windows media things working. Now i don't miss anything from windows-world.08:51
tomplastthanks som1 ;)08:51
tomplastbut im allready there :P08:51
som1oh, sorry08:51
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som1and yeah im almost sure it is.08:51
rickardI got a hard drive using ntfs system, is it possible to see the files from ubuntu?08:51
St0n3-C0lyeah08:51
Flying_Deaglemanhi all, I have a question....I have an SB Live! 24-bit sound card, and ubuntu reads it as a audigy LS.  This isn't true, of course, and I'd like to know how to get ubuntu to read it as an SB Live! 24bit.  On another note, I installed teamspeak, and it auto mutes my headphones, and my mic, how do I fix that?08:52
St0n3-C0l;)08:52
som1tomplast, sudo apt-cache search tcl agrees with me ;)08:52
kameronrickard: yes. add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb5       /media/ntfs     ntfs    umask=0222      0       008:52
tomplast:P08:52
kameronrickard: replace /dev/hdb5 with whatever your hd is. that just happens to be mine.08:52
tomplastthanks som1 :)08:52
tomplasti will look at it08:52
polpak!ntfs08:52
ubotuI heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK08:52
veriz!link08:52
ubotu[link]  broken08:52
tomplasttake care som108:52
tomplastbye08:52
Jesusaurus-RexOk, I need some serius help, my ubuntu bow didn't have the right "acelerated 3d driver" for my ATI card, so I followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI in the "Using the drivers from ati.com" section. now, when booting, it gets to the desktop, and everything but the mouse crashes, I made a backup of my original xorg.conf, and restoreing it does not solve the problem, any ideas?08:52
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Jesusaurus-Rex*box08:52
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Maxhb!list08:53
ubotusomebody said list was you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:53
top222Is there something wrong if 99% of the packages "apt-get upgrade" wants to install can't be authenticated?08:53
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polpakJesusaurus-Rex: also remove the kernel driver08:53
poningrumetho: bad news08:53
Jesusaurus-Rexhow?08:53
korridoren08:53
korridorenf08:53
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poningrumetho: its not supported out of the box08:53
polpakJesusaurus-Rex: /etc/modules I believe08:53
blue-frogtop222, apt-get update should solve your problem..08:53
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poningrumetho: you are going to have to work for it08:53
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/F5D700008:53
methoponingru: :(08:53
top222blue-frog: It didn't08:53
methoponingru: danm i am doomed, lol08:54
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poningrumetho: wait08:54
ompaulJesusaurus-Rex, would dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?08:54
Jesusaurus-Rexpolpak, I have no idea what file to delete in there08:54
poningrumetho: did you say 7000 or 7010?08:54
Jesusaurus-Rexwhats that do?08:54
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simonvcHey alll, where can i get the ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 sources from?08:54
methoponingru: 701008:54
polpakJesusaurus-Rex: do you have a line that says fglrx ?08:54
ompaulJesusaurus-Rex, slight change >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<08:54
nickruddjk_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/676108:54
methoponingru: f5d701008:54
poningrumetho: oh08:54
top222blue-frog: Wait... I updated again and now it is gone.  Thanks.08:54
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poningrumetho: that should have worked out of the box08:54
djk_nickrud: thank you08:54
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Jesusaurus-Rexompaul, whats that do?08:54
poningrumetho: hmm08:54
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Flying_Deaglemanhi all, I have a question....I have an SB Live! 24-bit sound card, and ubuntu reads it as a audigy LS.  This isn't true, of course, and I'd like to know how to get ubuntu to read it as an SB Live! 24bit.  On another note, I installed teamspeak, and it auto mutes my headphones, and my mic, how do I fix that?08:55
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poningrumetho: ok hold on08:55
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methoponingru: ok!08:55
gnomefreakok now ill be back need to boot to win yucky :(08:55
Jesusaurus-Rexompaul, whats that do?08:55
ompaulreconfigures the video setup08:56
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poningrumetho: go to a terminal08:56
methoponingru: ok08:56
Maxhbdoes anyone know how to make an audio optical output work ???08:56
poningrumetho: and type in iwconfig press enter08:56
methoponingru: i got three and they all say no wireless connection08:56
poningrumetho: hmm08:57
poningruyou sure it was plugged in when you started?08:57
poningruyour computer I mean08:57
methoyeah08:57
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methou want me to restart again, just to make sure08:57
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cozhello all08:57
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kameronSt0n3-c0l: actually, found a howto online: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/08:58
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poningrumetho: yeah lets just try it again08:58
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poningrumetho: there are other things to do too but go ahead and restart just to make sure we its not something simple08:58
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methoponingru: ok!!08:59
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salomoHey! Does anyone know how to make mplayer menus look better. Now they are quite ugly.08:59
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Davey`salomo: step 1) Install Totem09:00
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salomoDavey, Ok I'll give it a try..09:00
poningrusalomo: yeah dude install couple of skins09:00
poningrusalomo: no you dont have to switch to a different player09:01
poningrujust install couple of skins09:01
butcherbirdwho was having problems with kubuntu-deskop packages?09:01
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cdubyaanyone use skype at all?09:02
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blue-frogcdubya, yes09:02
cdubyablue-frog, did you have any issues getting it installed?09:02
salomoponingru, Ok I'll try some skins first.09:02
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cdubyaI'm getting a dep issue with libqt09:02
St0n3-C0lkameron: Thanks once again :)))09:02
ompaulcdubya, dont do that version there is a fixed one09:03
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blue-frogcdubya, no09:03
fbl-someone who has some spare time for a noob ?09:03
ompaul!tell cdubya about skype09:03
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cdubyaompaul, where?09:03
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methoponingru: bad news, didnt work09:03
ompaulcdubya, read the bot message09:03
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methoponingru:c:(09:03
blue-frogfbl fire up we'll see.09:03
stgraberhi09:03
kameronSt0n3-c0l: no problem man. sorry i can't be of much more help, the only thing i did with grub on ubuntun was trash it :P09:03
ompaul!tell fbl- about anyone09:03
fbl-Well, i can't get the install running, meaning that i think it hangs somewhere09:04
St0n3-C0lLOL09:04
poningrumetho: hmm ok09:04
cdubyaompaul, k09:04
poningrumetho: go into a terminal type in lspci09:04
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simonvcHey does anyone know how i can get the new kernel headers? 2.6.12-10-386?09:04
poningrumetho: do you see your card in the list?09:04
fbl-i think it has some problems with my sata and or raid card09:04
methoponingru: 1 min m809:04
ompaulfbl-, that is a little vague, care to say what is on the screen when it stops?09:05
poningrumetho: take your time09:05
blue-frogcdubya, check the iso md5, if good boot abd type expert at boot prompt, then choose verify cd.09:05
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fbl-well nothing, it's blue and grey and i can type, that's it09:05
ompaulfbl-, have you got the LiveCD ?09:05
fbl-ompaul no, breezy b cd09:05
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poningrusimonvc: why are you using a 386?09:05
methoponingru: yeah i see it, yes yes!!! >"0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless  LAN Controller (rev 03)09:06
metho"09:06
poningruok so it is recognized by your comp09:06
fbl-if i'm not mistaking it does that before i have to chose the hdd where it schould install09:06
ompaulblue-frog, who was that for?;-)09:06
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methoponingru: yeah09:06
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davidlewhello?09:06
gnomefreakhi09:06
poningrumetho: ok type in iwconfig again09:06
simonvcpoingru, im not using a 385, thats just the kernel name i got from uname -a09:07
methoponingru: ok09:07
simonvc^^38609:07
ompaulfbl-, does it get to the point where it asks you about language and stuff?09:07
davidlewhaving problems getting a first-time install of UBUNTU on my Apple G5 imac to boot up..09:07
cdubyakewl, thanks ompaul09:07
poningrusimonvc: what proc are you using? and is there a reason you are not using that kernel?09:07
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davidlewcannot get YABOOT to install...09:07
methoponingru: nothing, it says no wireless externsins09:07
poningruwtf09:07
poningruok this is very weird09:07
ompaulcdubya, enjoy09:07
fbl-ompaul yeah all that without any problem.. language, keyboard, until it scans the hdd09:07
simonvcpoingru: its a newish laptop.. im just trying to find the headers for the normal ubuntu kernel that auto updated recently..09:08
davidlewanybody here know how to tweak YABOOT???09:08
TheAspall the caps is making my head hurt09:08
gnomefreak!yaboot09:08
ubotugnomefreak: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!09:08
davidlewI'm a LINUX "Newbie" unfortunately..09:08
fbl-ompaul but i have 1 SATA hdd installed and 1RAID PCI card installed :<09:08
davidlewsorry..  :-)09:08
blue-frogfbl-, , check the iso md5, if good boot abd type expert at boot prompt, then choose verify cd.09:08
poningrumetho: I am confused dude09:09
fbl-cd is ok :)09:09
methoponingru: whats wrong09:09
ompaulfbl-, as the man says - it may be your sata - if you know the make and model I would use uncle google for it09:09
poningrusimonvc: well its linux-headers-2.6.12-10-38609:09
davidlewhmm..09:09
nickruddavidlew, nothing to be sorry for. Yabooters do appear here now and then.09:09
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poningruerr09:09
poningrusimonvc: linux-image-2.6.12-10-3809:10
poningrusorry09:10
=== gnomefreak not a yabooter but im an aimbooter :)
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davidlewsorry---just resetting this chat-client to display text at 24pt  (visually impaired at this end..)09:10
poningrumetho: I dont understand why the you can see the thing but its not loading09:10
poningrumetho: hold on let me seee something09:10
davidlewI'm not sure why not, either...09:10
methoponingru: ok09:10
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fbl-ompaul i know the model, Silicon Image, and their site states : "You must use a kernel version of 2.4.18-14 or later to have SATA support for the SiI3x12. More recent kernel support SiI3114, SiI3124, and SiI3132."09:11
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kameroni've been thinking about getting ubuntu intalled on my beige g3 mac.. anyone had experience dealing with old world macs? where you boot with BootX, and not yaboot? i currently have ydl 3.0.1 installed on there.09:11
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gnomefreak2.6 is later09:11
simonvcpoingru: Thx that was what i needed.09:11
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user_I've just installed ubuntu and its not working as it should...09:11
davidlewI get an error message: Failed to install bootloader--installation of the yaboot boot loader failed-please check the system log on the output on the third console (tty3)--warning your system may be unbootable09:11
luk3hey anyone can help me to setup a dial up connection?09:11
poningrumetho: type this in your termina lsmod | grep 2.0009:12
ompaulfbl-, you are above that breezy is  2.609:12
methoponingru: ok09:12
gnomefreakuser_, what do you mean not working like it should?09:12
poningrumetho: are you using breezy or hoary?09:12
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poningrumetho: 5.10 or 5.04?09:12
nasehow do i stop kopete from popping up ALERTS? xxx is online ,etc09:12
methoponingru: ubuntu 5.10 breezy09:12
poningrumetho: just checking09:12
fbl-ompaul indeed, so that shouldn't be the problem. still it get the blue and grey screen where i can type, but nothing happens there09:12
user_its asking me for passwords to update it and i set them all to the same yet it wont let me in.09:12
poningrucause the only in breezy this card became usable out of the box09:13
idleDatamake sure caps arent on09:13
flameshow can i install w32codecs for breezy?09:13
gnomefreakuser_, what are you using to get in and what are you trying to get in09:13
methoponingru: i typed lsmod | grep 2.00 and nothing happened which means something happen in linux world09:13
gnomefreakubotu tell flames about codecs09:13
davidlewis there a private "room" here where somebody can discuss YABOOT with me?  all these streams of text are visually very confusing.09:13
poningrumetho: try09:13
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user_when i log in to ubuntu breezy badger... i get an update report saying i have 36 updates... i dont know the password... something to do with sudo...09:14
poningrulsmod | grep RT250009:14
gnomefreakdavidlew, try #ubuntu-offtopic09:14
poningrulsmod | grep Rt250009:14
TheAspuser_: it's your password09:14
gnomefreaksee if someone in htere knows09:14
luk3how can i connect to tje internet through a 56k dial up connection?09:14
user_my login password???09:14
davidlewthanks..  not  quite sure how to get to #ubuntu-offtopic09:14
gnomefreakyes09:14
Bjelleklangflames: try apt-get install w32-codecs09:14
davidlewwhere is it?09:14
poningruuser_: yes your login password09:14
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gnomefreakubotu tell user_ about sudo09:14
ompaulfbl-, I am at a loss, I do have one mad cap idea providing your sure the disk is okay - it is this - reboot the box and when it pauses a few seconds into the boot type "server" as the install after that when the box reboots login and >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<09:14
poningrumetho: try those two commands09:14
kameron!tell flames about win32codecs09:14
Bjelleklangsorry, w32codecs09:14
user_but that doesnt work cuz its password09:14
methoponingru: ok09:14
poningruuser_: your password09:15
Bjelleklangor see this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/09:15
gnomefreakuser_, read up on sudo please09:15
poningruuser_: your login password09:15
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kameronflames: you likely don't have w32codecs in your sources.list09:15
poningruBjelleklang: please dont recomend ubuntuguide09:15
poningru!ubuntuguide09:15
Bjelleklangoh?09:15
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead09:15
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gnomefreakthe same password you logged into ubuntu with is the same password you will use09:15
poningru!easybreezy09:15
ubotuponingru: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:15
idleDatauser_>  when you type in your password you wont see any * just type it in and hit enter09:15
poningru!easybreazy09:15
Bjelleklangok, thanks09:15
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, poningru09:15
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poningrugrr09:15
gnomefreak!easyubuntu09:15
uboturumour has it, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu09:15
poningruoh09:15
poningrudoh09:15
gnomefreakponingru, that one?09:15
poningruyeah but what happend to the website?09:15
methoponingru: i typed those two commands and went ok!09:15
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gnomefreakponingru,  dont know09:16
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poningrumetho: so it didnt show anything?09:16
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methoponingru: no09:16
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nickrudmy, those easyubuntu guys are cautious :)09:16
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poningrumetho: hmm ok so the rt2500 module isnt loaded for you09:17
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poningrulets try loading that it should work after that09:17
kp_sachera09:17
ompaulnickrud, well that might be better than being wreckless :)09:17
poningruhold on09:17
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jasonk123i can't get AIM to install for ubuntu linux09:17
luk3nobody knows!!??09:17
methoponingru: ok09:17
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gnomefreakjasonk123, aim 1.5 is garbage go with gaim09:18
BearHunterIs anyone else having trouble accessing the ubuntu help website?09:18
idleDataubotu tell jasonk123  about amsn09:18
flames!easysource09:18
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:18
jasonk123i go with it now09:18
nickrudompaul, wreckless is a nice state all to itself ;)09:18
simonvc??whats the command that shows keypresses? (like for acpi keys on a laptop\?)09:18
jasonk123i use GAIM now..after aim didn't work09:18
poningrusimonvc: xev09:18
Sanneluk3: sorry, I'm on broadband, I wouldn't know how to set up a modem connection.09:18
jasonk123who here is using ubuntu linux09:18
jasonk123????????????????????09:18
ompaulluk3, go here on the menu  >> system - administration - networking <<09:18
luk3okay!09:18
TheAspno one?09:18
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idleDatajasonk123>  most everyone09:18
simonvclol09:19
jasonk123me 209:19
luk3i tried already09:19
jorgpjasonk123: nobody here is09:19
gnomefreakjasonk123, aim 1.5 isnt the easiest to install and aim 1.5 is crap no extras you cant iggy anything either09:19
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simonvcid say everyone.09:19
luk3it says that the modem device is active09:19
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BearHunteri am just about to . . .09:19
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jasonk123i'm using ubuntu on emulator09:19
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kameronwhy doesn't http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic have universe or multiverse?09:19
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butcherbirdluk3: you should be able to put a number and login info there right?09:19
BearHunterwhat is the best way to setup a dual boot ubuntu/windows xp? I haven't installed either yet09:19
jasonk123linux has lack of drivers09:19
luk3yup!09:20
luk3i did!09:20
nickrudkameron, it does, look again09:20
gnomefreakBearHunter, windows first09:20
gnomefreakubuntu last09:20
ompauljasonk123, em it has more out of the box that windows :-)09:20
jasonk123BearHunter, Install Windows then Install ubuntu linux09:20
BearHunterok09:20
luk3then it says that it's active09:20
kameronnickrud: hmmm.. i don't see it? searched for it too.09:20
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ompaulluk3, then you can work with it?09:20
BearHunterso windows becomes boot partition?09:20
luk3i was wonder if there is some kind of a dialer09:20
jasonk123I tried installing Linux first then Windows..what a hell going through09:20
luk3yup!09:20
luk3 i cannot09:21
BeaWhen i log in i have to enter a password to update via sudo...  when i enter my password it says... Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:09:21
Bea The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.09:21
gnomefreakkameron, it has them09:21
PaqitoHi. I have a question. What are Ubuntu minimum requirements?09:21
top222If there is a Cardbus WLAN card that works with Ubuntu out of the box, what would you recommend?09:21
kamerongnomefreak, nickrud: is it called something other than multiverse and universe?09:21
nickrudkameron, I just looked, it's the community supported stuff (not very clear)09:21
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flamesi download w32codec...i386.deb and install it with dpkg -i ... is this ok?09:21
kameronnickrud: ah, okay09:21
jorgpflames: sure09:22
ompaulluk3, I have not got a modem to follow your actions sorry, maybe someone else has, type modem in the search box on http://wiki.ubuntu.com09:22
gnomefreakkameron, its in either the first or second section09:22
BearHunterso if i have two hardrives, i install windows on the boot partition then ubuntu on the other drive?09:22
gnomefreakif you click them they will show up09:22
gnomefreakafter you send it09:22
luk3thanks a lot!09:22
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Beai have a question...09:22
PaqitoI have an old celeron with Windows XP and I am trying to  move to Linux. Someone told me about Ubuntu. But I am not sure if it will work at my PC09:22
butcherbirdPaqito: have run server install w/blackbox on p133 16mb ram.. prob dont want to try gnome on that :)09:22
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korridorenNvidia+Ubuntu=problem. Have gone through all avai. guides. With "nv" drive I get good working 2D-acc with nice res and refresh rate, when I change to "nvidia" drive I loose high res (1600x1200) but gain 3D-acc. Refreshrate is fine. I've tried reducing colorDepth, adding Modlines. Hsync and Vsync are set to correct val for my monitor. Is this problem solveable?09:22
butcherbirdPaqito: check out xubuntu09:23
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Paqitobutcherbird tnaks09:23
Paqitothanks, indeed09:23
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kamerongnomefreak: i see, i see.09:23
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Inf3ctedFxI have a question i'm following the howto on ubuntu forum about how to enable my sound to work with multiples sounds, but I got to the point is asking me to do a gedit on /etc/asound.conf but I dont have that file...09:24
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kamerongnomefreak: i have official, universe, multiverse, and seveas. but i can't find package gmplayer. do you know what it's a part of?09:24
kamerongnomefreak: and i did apt-get update09:24
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ompaulluk3, just a quick question is it is an internal modem or a serial modem?09:24
flameshttp://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb <- this is 403 forbidden for me!?09:24
luk3internal09:24
luk3PCI09:24
gnomefreakno i dont but my list is alot longer than that try the backports09:24
ompaulluk3, is it a winmodem?09:24
kamerongnomefreak: roger09:25
Seveaskameron, it's part of multiverse09:25
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Seveas!info gmplayer09:25
luk3i am not sure!?!09:25
BeaCan some one help me please...09:25
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Seveas!info mplayer09:25
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Seveaskameron, it's part of the mplayer-$arch packages09:25
Seveas!info mplayer-58609:25
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB09:25
flameswhere can i download w32codecs deb?09:25
luk3what do ya mean by '' a winmodem''?09:25
Seveas!tell flames about w32codecs09:25
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MERTselam09:26
gnomefreakflames i gave you the link like 20 mins ago09:26
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poningrumetho: ok here we go09:26
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/DriverAndRaconfig09:26
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Inf3ctedFxanyone has an idea?09:27
poningrumetho: follow the instructions to install the driver09:27
methoponingru: thanks!!!09:27
methoponingru: u r the man09:27
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poningrumetho: you dont need to install the raconfig/rautil thingy though09:27
user_what do i do if i get a message saying  When i log in i have to enter a password to update via sudo...  when i enter my password it says... Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:09:27
user_Bea  The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator. when i enter a password to update ubuntu...09:27
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nickrudkameron, I was away for a second, if you're still looking for gmplayer it's in the mplayer package09:28
Inf3ctedFxI have a question i'm following the howto on ubuntu forum about how to enable my sound to work with multiples sounds, but I got to the point is asking me to do a gedit on /etc/asound.conf but I dont have that file...09:28
methoponingru: so just install the drivers than?09:28
flames"can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk" what is this?09:28
poningrumetho: yep09:28
poningruand the adding module part09:28
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MertTezerselam09:28
methoponingru: ok09:28
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j2daoshhows it going everyone09:28
idleDataflames> ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76910.html09:28
traebmpx?09:28
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trae!bmpx09:29
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, trae09:29
gnomefreak!easysource09:29
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:29
kameronnickrud: i'm building a new sources.list that's bloated with everything, and i'll try again, it's updating now.09:29
poningruyeah just uptill it says 'sudo insmod rt2500.ko'09:29
traehmmm09:29
traegnomefreak, seen crimsun lately?09:29
poningruSeveas: wasnt there a website for easyubuntu?09:29
gnomefreakflames you will find those repos in easysource09:29
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poningruit disapeared from ubotu09:29
gnomefreaktrae, not today09:29
traehope he's ok.09:29
poningru!easyubuntu09:29
ubotueasyubuntu is probably a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu09:29
gnomefreakponingru, no it didnt09:29
traehaven't seen him on in a while.09:29
flames!easysource09:29
methoponingru: no problem ponin09:29
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:29
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poningrumetho: yep09:30
nickrudflames, make your life easy, go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:30
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gnomefreaknickrud, how hard can it be to click a button or two and add to your sources list :(09:30
BearHunterIf i want to dual boot, I install windows on my boot drive (primary master) and install ubuntu on the secondary (slave)??09:30
JoeBlow!grub09:30
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting09:30
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drayenhey, im haveing real problems with my /dev/sda, it seems all my superblocks  (well the 6 i've tried) have bad magic numbers yet, dumpe2fs contains all sorts of relvent data - anyh anyone help me recover? (bit of a newbie, but learning fast)09:31
SinnerGI got this error while dist-upgrade'ing to breezy09:31
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SinnerGrrors were encountered while processing:09:31
SinnerG /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb09:31
SinnerGE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:31
gnomefreakBearHunter, that is fine09:31
nickrudgnomefreak, it's a matter of trust, if you're not sure about what you're doing, it's not stupid to do nothing09:31
Inf3ctedFxanyone can give me an idea about my question??09:31
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BearHunterthankyou :))09:31
nickrudalthough, source-o-matic is the bomb09:31
poningru!easyubuntu is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu09:31
ubotuokay, poningru09:31
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jasonk123UBOTU UR GAY!!!!!09:32
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, jasonk12309:32
Gaaphi all09:32
Inf3ctedFxI have a question i'm following the howto on ubuntu forum about how to enable my sound to work with multiples sounds, but I got to the point is asking me to do a gedit on /etc/asound.conf but I dont have that file... do I have to create  the file? or is suppost to be there...09:32
jasonk123Bugger all, i dunno,09:32
jasonk123shut up..ubotu!!!!09:32
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stgraberInf3ctedFx: you have to create it09:33
erUSULInf3ctedFx, just create it it will do no harm09:33
Inf3ctedFxoks09:33
Inf3ctedFxthx09:33
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flamesthx everybody, it's downloading09:33
korridorenQuestion : Is there any setup-util for the nvidia "nv" driver that corresponds to the "nvidia" nvidia-settings util?09:33
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poningruInf3ctedFx: you will probably have to do 'sudo gedit /etc/asound.conf'09:33
luk3hey... what about partitioning my HD with ubuntu09:34
luk3how can i do that?09:34
poningruluk3: gparted09:34
poningruor qtparted09:34
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Inf3ctedFxoks poningru09:34
luk3yup but..09:34
luk3i dont have it installed09:34
poningrujust grab it from synaptic09:34
stgraberAbout partitioning, is there any tool to edit LVM graphically (like resize, add an harddisk, ...) ?09:34
luk3and i dont have a connection seted in my ubuntu SO09:34
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poningruluk3: what do you mean?09:35
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ManifoldGuys.09:35
poningruluk3: you dont have internet connection?09:35
ManifoldHow do I execute a .py program?09:35
luk3i am running windows xp right now09:35
luk3yup09:35
poningruManifold: python foo.py09:35
erUSULstgraber, afaik you can use evms tools for that09:35
JoeBlowI hate installing windows xp, cause grub always messes with me, im doing drub install now09:35
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luk3i can figure out how to dial up a connection with ubuntu09:35
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JoeBlowIt will be nice in the future, when linux is better for games and easier, then it will destroy windows completely09:36
erUSULluk3, use pppconfig09:36
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nickrudluk3, if you have an external modem, you can use pppconfig very nicely09:36
poningruJoeBlow: it will happen with ps3, because then switching over to linux is not going to be that hard especially on power arch09:36
luk3mine is a PCI internal modem09:36
OctonTrying to set options for my nvidia driver in ubuntu... Doesn't seem like I have an /etc/modules.conf, what's the equiv?  (or should I just touch this file)09:36
poningru!tell luk3 about winmodem09:37
ManifoldAha. Thank you, poningru.09:37
JoeBlowponingru, gonna be sweet. I cant wait to never have to touch another Microshaft product again09:37
luk3where can i find pppconfig?09:37
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kameronseveas, nickrud, gnomefreak, here's my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6765 and i still can't find gmplayer09:37
nickrudwell, it depends on the modem, then, luk3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto09:37
Seveaskameron, the package is called mplayer-586, not gmplayer09:37
gnomefreakkameron, search for mplayer not gmplayer09:37
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poningruluk3: I think actually gparted is in your ubuntu-cd09:38
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mark_hi09:38
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luk3is it?09:38
poningruSeveas: do you know? if gparted is included in the cd?09:38
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poningruluk3: hold on09:38
nickrudluk3, it's in main09:38
luk3sure09:38
gnomefreakponingru, you hav eto install it09:38
gnomefreakhave to*09:38
JoeBlowmy harddrive is sda1, so what command do i use for , root (hdX,X) ?09:38
gnomefreaki think its in main repo09:39
poningruif its in main then its in the cd right?09:39
kameronseveas, gnomefreak: ah, okay. usually (well, from my experiences at least) there's mplayer, and then a seperate package, gmplayer, that goes on top, or any other front end.09:39
poningruyeah I am pretty sure it is in it09:39
korridorenQuestion : Have gone through all avai. guides. With "nv" drive I get good working 2D-acc with nice res and refresh rate, when I change to "nvidia" drive I loose high res (1600x1200) but gain 3D-acc. Refreshrate is fine. I've tried reducing colorDepth, adding Modlines. Hsync and Vsync are set to correct val for my monitor. So how do I get High res with 3D?09:39
poningruluk3: put in your ubuntu cd, then go into synaptic and try and install it09:39
poningru!info gparted09:39
poningrustupid bot09:39
gnomefreakponingru, im not sure if it is or not i dont use cd repo :))09:39
nickrudkameron, this is ubuntu, your world has shifted :)09:39
poningruhehe09:39
kameronnickrud: i guess so? i did mdk and ydl for years.. i have to say, i like apt-get a lot more than yum or urpmi09:40
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JoeBlowI like mplayer, just make sure u set your driver to xv and install the optional fonts package09:40
blanky!recoverubuntuafterinstallingwindows09:40
ubotuI don't know, blanky09:40
blanky!recover09:40
uboturecover is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:40
luk3alright09:40
JoeBlow!grub09:40
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting09:40
poningrublanky: its in !grub09:40
blankygot it already, thanks09:40
nickrudkameron, I've been a happy apt user for years. The original is still the best, I hear.09:40
kameronnickrud: the original what is still the best?09:41
poningrukameron: apt09:41
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kameron...nickrud, poningru what do you mean?09:41
poningruapt > aptitude >synaptic09:41
JoeBlowanyone ever installed grub on a sata drive? what do i use in the grub installer, instead of (hd,0,0)09:41
JoeBlowits not hda, its sda09:42
kameronponingru: oh okay, right right.09:42
nickrudkameron, apt is the library that decodes dependencies and the like: yum and such are also rans :)09:42
sorush20guys what sound plugins do need to add to be able to run multiple sound programs.. like to run skype and amarok at the same time.?09:42
poningru!alsa09:42
ubotuwell, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206309:42
kameronponingru: wtf is aptitude.. i've used synaptic.09:42
methoponingru: i am stuck at make part (i am in cd ./rt2500*/Module) and i extracted the files in /home/metho therefore i can not use the make command09:42
cozsorush20 alsa will do09:42
gnomefreakkameron, aptitude is apt09:43
gnomefreakapt=short and you can run either09:43
poningrumetho: try sudo make09:43
methook09:43
butcherbirdJoeBlow: i would think (sd0,1) etc09:43
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gnomefreaksudo aptitude ..... or sudo apt-get09:43
poningru!aptitude09:43
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ubotuwell, aptitude is like apt-get or synaptic, but uses a full-screen text interface, or the replacement/user front end for apt-get as of Debian Sarge09:43
poningruubotu: bot snack09:43
ubotu:)09:43
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kamerongnomefreak: oh, i just ran it. it's CLI apt.. kind of confusing09:44
methoponingru: its all done09:44
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methoponingru: what shell i do next09:44
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gnomefreakkameron, thats why most people use apt if im not mistaken aptitude can do things apt cant but not sure09:44
nickrudkameron, you can also use it from the command line in place of apt-get. It has some extra capabilities09:44
mvdgHi there,09:44
kameronnickrud what sort of capabilities?09:45
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poningrumetho: jsut restart and use network settings09:45
poningruerr networking09:45
poningrufrom system->administration09:45
mvdgDoes anyone know how to configure a second monitor to my dell d800 without losing the screen resolution09:45
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nickrudthe most likeable is it tracks dependencies of a package you install. After you uninstall that package, it will remove any unused dependencies.09:45
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methoponingru: ok, i hope it works this time, finger cross09:45
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kameronnickrud: apt can do that can't it?09:45
methoponingru: lol09:45
nickrudplus, it has some extra search and other functions09:45
poningruhehe good luck09:45
SealyDavehi09:46
nickrudkameron, no, apt-get does not09:46
gnomefreaknickrud, doesnt it only do that if you install it with aptitude?09:46
kameronnickrud: hmm, okay. i thought there was an option to do that.09:46
nickrudgnomefreak, but of course.09:46
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Diogo#irc09:46
Diogoe ae gakera09:46
poningru!es09:46
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:46
gnomefreakanyone know what lang. that is?09:46
Diogonum estou entendendo nada do que vcs estao falando09:47
Diogohehehehehe09:47
poningruassuming espana09:47
kamerongnomefreak: espanol09:47
Diogoai galera estou testando esse sistema aqui09:47
SealyDavei cant switch to su in terminal , but can sudo apt get, what gives, says authentication failure?09:47
nickrudum, mexican :)09:47
poningruoh09:47
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gnomefreaklooks right after what he posted 2nd time09:47
poningruSealyDave: we dont use su here09:47
erUSUL!tell Diogo about pt09:47
gnomefreakSealyDave, dont use su use sudo09:47
poningrubrb09:47
gnomefreakubotu tell SealyDave about rootsudo09:48
luk3humm GParted is not on ubuntu CD!09:48
erUSULportuguese09:48
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asteroidI try to run a Quickcam Express (working fine on slack) but Xawtv (or camarama) do not find /dev/video0. Module is load, what can be the fuck ?09:48
Diogoacuma09:48
mweSealyDave: use sudo -i if you need a root prompt09:48
gnomefreaki cant check right now :(09:48
asteroid/dev/video* do not exist09:48
luk3erUSUL, what about portuguese?09:48
Diogono saco nada de outra lingua ai pra me ajudar09:48
gnomefreakgo to packages.ubuntu.com it will tell you what repo it is in09:48
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poningruluk3: did it work?09:49
poningrucrap09:49
luk3nope09:49
Diogo:09:49
Diogo:09:49
mvdgDoes anyone know how to connect a second monitor to my Dell d80009:49
luk3it's not on ubuntu cd09:49
CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i release my soundcard from running processes ?09:49
asteroidmvdg, a laptop ?09:49
gnomefreakluk3, go to packages.ubuntu.com and find what repo it is in09:49
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Diogo:}09:49
erUSULluk3, Diogo is speaking portuguese...09:49
kameron!pt09:49
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.09:49
Diogosim prtugueses09:49
gnomefreakim on win running a crap load of stuff or i would :(09:50
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luk3from brazil?09:50
luk3or portugal?09:50
Diogosim brasil09:50
SealyDavemwe thanks09:50
gnomefreakluk3, same lang.09:50
luk3yup!09:50
kameronDiogo por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt09:50
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Diogograto09:50
kameronwerd09:50
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Diogo#ubuntu-pt09:51
mvdgsorry don't speak any brazillian09:51
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kamerondiogo: /join #ubuntu-pt09:51
methoponingru: didnt work m8!!!09:51
poningruoh crap09:51
methoponingru: didnt work m8!!!09:51
Diogoa sim grato09:51
kameronwerd09:51
methoponingru: i know m809:51
poningrudo09:51
luk3kameron, do you speak portuguese?09:51
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poningrulsmod | 2.0009:51
poningruagain09:51
gnomefreakdmesg output yet?09:51
nase!limewire09:52
ubotulimewire is probably first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.09:52
SealyDaveso i downloaded easykubuntu installed it for plugins, but none of my plugins work?09:52
methoponingru: ok09:52
kameronluk3 pff, no. i just copied what ubotu said, and assume that "grato" means thank you.09:52
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poningruluk3: do you have an ubuntu-live cd?09:52
asteroidwhy if I `mknod` /dev/video, after reboot there is not ?09:52
luk3lol09:52
luk3nice09:52
kameron;)09:52
luk3yup!09:52
poningruluk3: you do?09:52
tafsenSystem > Admin > Disks doesn't work. Anyone?09:53
luk3yup09:53
luk3i do!09:53
poningruluk3: that has gparted in it09:53
poningrujust boot it up09:53
luk3where09:53
methoponingru: lsmod | 2.00) it says command not found09:53
Diogo /join #ubuntu-pt09:53
luk3i have checked it on tool folder09:53
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butcherbirdtafsen: what are you trying to do?09:53
mwefolder?09:53
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luk3i mean POOL09:53
poningrumetho: doh09:53
tafsenbutcherbird, just trying to open it09:53
luk3folder09:54
poningrumetho: lsmod | grep 2.0009:54
poningrumy bad09:54
methonp09:54
poningruluk3?09:54
methoponingru: it worked09:54
tafsenbutcherbird, There was an error running the backend script09:54
luk3what!?09:54
poningrumetho: ?09:54
Diogoae frends no conseguindo ainda09:54
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Diogoplz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:55
luk3what !?poningru09:55
chadashanybody here using supybot?09:55
poningruluk3: nothing, you said pool folder09:55
methoponingru: command didnt do anything so it means that the command was ok09:55
Diogohelp!!!!!!!!!!!!09:55
gnomefreakwhat is supybot?09:55
poningrumetho: no it should have listed stuff09:55
Chris_in_the_ukhey, i'm having trouble intstalling ubuntu onto a pc from a CD.  I've followed the wiki tutorials but i'm getting errors halfway through.09:55
mwe!helpme09:55
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.09:55
poningrumetho: try just lsmod09:55
luk3yup09:55
methook09:55
luk3pool> main09:56
nase!java09:56
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:56
poningruluk3: oh you mean like that09:56
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SealyDavehow do i change to su in mc09:56
tafsenbutcherbird, Can you help me?09:56
methoponingru: it listed all sort of stuff, what am i lookinf for in there09:56
poningrumetho: somethin like rt250009:56
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butcherbirdtafsen: thought you might be looking for a terminal solution dont know gnome..09:56
Diogoalguem ajuda help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!109:56
luk3it was the ony main folder i found !09:56
mwesomeone kick Diogo please09:56
gnomefreakSealyDave, what do you mean su?09:57
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gnomefreak!ops09:57
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth09:57
SealyDavesuperuser09:57
methook09:57
budsalut09:57
naseDiogo, seu mongol vai pro #ubuntu-br09:57
nickrudDiogo, #ubuntu-pt09:57
naliothgnomefreak: may i help you?09:57
luk3hahahahha09:57
gnomefreakmwe asked something09:57
luk3that was cool!!09:57
Diogomas como vou pra la e que no sei09:57
mwenalioth: Diogo keeps being annoying09:57
luk3nase!09:57
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nickrudhey, nalioth wass happinin09:57
sorush20guys where is skype 2.0?09:57
luk3hehehe09:57
budfrancais ?09:57
naseDiogo, ueh tecla /join #ubuntu-br09:57
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naliothDiogo: vaya de el #ubuntu-br09:57
poningru!skype09:57
ubotuit has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/09:57
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gnomefreakty sir09:58
nalioth!fr09:58
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais09:58
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mwenalioth: we told him several times to join antoher channel but he keeps acting lame09:58
Seveasnase Please adhere to the code of conduct09:58
Chris_in_the_uk!install09:58
ubotuinstall is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation09:58
naseSeveas, what did i do wrong09:58
budnouveau sur linux09:58
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nasei was just helping the guy09:58
nasehe didnt know ho to join the proper channel09:58
naliothbud: #ubuntu-fr09:58
naseand doesnt speak english09:58
naseso WHAT did i do?:09:58
Seveas<nase> Diogo, seu mongol vai pro #ubuntu-br09:58
P3TU-hey mzlla09:58
naliothnase: you are fine09:58
Seveas'mongol'//09:58
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mzllahey09:59
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nasemongol in portuguese isnt what you think it is09:59
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P3TU-aattelin vaan tulla tnne09:59
Berghello09:59
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P3TU-mut m lhen koht09:59
BergI am back09:59
Seveasnase, then I'm sorry09:59
poningrumetho: doh I forgot to tell you something09:59
naliothP3TU-: english please in here09:59
poningrumetho: to load the module09:59
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poningrumetho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/DriverAndRaconfig#head-f65d067202a0c0609377d7b5d5827f647a36adbb10:00
methoponingru: yeah10:00
poningrufollow from step 310:00
wmileswhen I try to mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1, the system hangs... has anybody seen this before?10:00
BergI am using XP now after finding all my device driver CD's and everything is back to normal, I just bought a new router and I am planning to install it shortly10:00
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methoponingru: ok10:00
mweBerg: I guess you got lost after trying to restart X windows yesterday?10:00
Bergnah10:00
BergI have done it numerous times10:00
Bergnow I want to take a shot at *drumrolls* DUAL BOOTING!10:01
mweBerg: it's easy10:01
Bergyay10:01
BergI am using mIRC right now10:01
luk3alright, alright...10:02
mweBerg: the installer sets up a dual boot for you if you install linux after windows10:02
=== gnomefreak hasnt tried ipod apps in linux yet so i still have to be in windows for that :(
poningruwmiles: because there is already an /media/sda1 for usb mounts10:02
Bergkewl10:02
luk3now here are some questions for you guys10:02
SealyDaveif i uninstalled firefox 1.07 and dependency packages, and reinstalled 1.5 from web, would i end up kicking myself in the ass ?10:02
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Bergwill it slow my computer down alot?10:02
gnomefreakluk3, ask away :)10:02
Peterwhats the command to relaunch the xorg config setup?10:02
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poningru!tell SealyDave about firefox1.510:02
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gnomefreakSealyDave, you might10:02
luk3i am running ubuntu on a 64 bits plataform10:02
|stefan_|hellu =)10:02
naliothubotu: tell SealyDave about firefox1510:02
nickrudgnomefreak, maybe you could be the guinea pig for the iTunes stuff on restricted formats :)10:02
mwePeter: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts X10:03
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poningrunalioth: too slow :P10:03
naliothSealyDave: you'll break a lot of functionality in your box, follow the instructions10:03
poningruj/k10:03
gnomefreaklol nickrud thats what i was trying to avoid :)10:03
gerald-volthow do I use apt-get to search for an installed program?10:03
gerald-voltand then delete it?10:03
Petermwe: is there a way to set it up again? i screwed up the resolutions i need10:03
Bergwill duall booting slow down my computer alot?10:03
methoponingru: i got the following error<cp: cannot stat `/home/metho/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko': No such file or directory10:03
metho)))10:03
mwePeter: killingg everything though10:03
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gerald-voltor uninstall10:03
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mwePeter: yeah10:03
luk3so obviously that i should download the AMD64 packet files right!?!!10:03
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gnomefreakBerg, no it shouldnt have any affect on speed10:03
Berggood10:03
Berghow will it work though?10:03
mwePeter: back up your current config first though10:03
gnomefreakBerg, dual booting your still only running one OS at a time10:04
Peteryeah10:04
Peterhow do i run it?10:04
Bergoj10:04
Bergok10:04
poningrumetho: make sure you are have the file there10:04
kameronBerg: you install a bootloader, and it gives you the option to boot to either windows or linux, no performance loss at all10:04
poningrumetho: where did you make it to?10:04
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mwePeter: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:04
Berggood10:04
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Bergso I choose everytime I boot or what?10:04
Darky469hello everyone10:04
borisattvahas anyone experienced sudden slowness in firefox page loads after switching to linux?10:04
poningrumetho: follow that path and find out where your rt2500.ko is10:04
kameronBerg: you can, but you can also set a default, so that it auto boots to one choice after a certain amount of time has passed (say three seconds, or whatever you decide)10:05
SealyDavewhats the deal with opt/firefox, why that directory?10:05
Bergborisattva: yes when I did it10:05
luk3but right now i am running win xp10:05
gnomefreakmaybe if i get back to ubuntu tonight i will attempt one of the ipod programs10:05
poningruborisattva: yes if you are using firefox 1.0.710:05
luk3now my doubt is...10:05
Kindredcan an ipod do drag and drop like every other mp3 player?.. ha totally off subject but someone mentioned it.10:05
Berggood10:05
poningruborisattva: use 1.510:05
poningru!firefox1.510:05
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:05
BergI dont think my parents are comfortable with a new OS...10:05
Petermwe: how would i find out my video card bus identifier?10:05
gnomefreaklspci10:05
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mwePeter: just press enter on that one10:05
kameronBerg: they probably won't be. i can show you how to install linux so that they will never ever notice though.10:05
navaroneborisattva, you may wish to disable ipv6 in firefox setting type about:config in address bar and find network.ipv6 setting and toggle to true10:05
Bergnah10:06
luk3does it come zipped(compressed) or it will run installation as soon as the download is iver?10:06
Bergthey barely use the computer10:06
luk3over*10:06
kameronBerg: okay. that's how i did it when i was 15.10:06
nickrudBerg, set up what they do, and they won't know the diff10:06
kameronBerg: oh, okay.10:06
methoponingru: is that the file u r talking about /home/metho/rt2500-1.1.0-b310:06
gerald-volthow do i use apt-get to uninstall a package10:06
nickrudapt-get remove <pkg>10:06
mwegerald-volt: sudo apt-get install foobar10:06
navaroneapt-get remove10:06
mwegerald-volt: sorry10:06
gnomefreakgerald-volt, sudo apt-get remove <package10:06
gerald-voltfankyou10:06
mwegerald-volt: you said uninstall :)10:06
gnomefreakor apt-get remove --purge <package>10:07
Bergmy mom got mad at me when I formatted since she had some important files (for church (she is sometimes minister)) and then I tought them the importance of backing up your files10:07
gnomefreakno no no fank you sir :)10:07
borisattvathanks guys.. i didnt even notice its an older version. any idea why its not listed in symantics?10:07
kameronBerg: what i did when i installed on my parents comp years ago, i set the timeout to 10ms and had it auto boot to windows, so i had to frantically press the up or down errors so it wouldn't time out of the menu, before i could even see it!10:07
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nickrudBerg, you're the admin, you're supposed to set up the backups ;(10:07
kameronBerG: hahaha. there's a greater importance in not formatting other peoples shit!10:07
Bjelleklangwhen installing apache, do i need to create user and group www-data?10:07
kameronhaha, true, what nickrud said Berg10:07
Bergwell the computer needed to be formatted10:07
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poningrumetho: yeah inside that file10:08
Bjelleklangor could this be set to an existing user10:08
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SealyDavegcc =?10:08
nickrudall windows needs a proper format10:08
kameronsealydave: the Gnu C Compiler10:08
methoponingru: ok10:08
poningrulook for a file nameed rt2500.ko10:08
gnomefreakgcc is a compiler for C lang10:08
SealyDavesweet10:08
mwenot only for c10:08
Bergthere was some kind of error with some of my hardware files so most of my .exe files (mostly apple .exe files) would not run10:08
gnomefreakgcc is only for C10:08
mwefor a broad range of languages10:08
Bergwell anyway time to dual boot10:08
gnomefreakg++ is only for C++10:08
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gnomefreakgjc=java10:09
borisattvanavarone: just to clarify, i want to DISABLE that ipv6 string?10:09
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kamerongoodluck Berg, we'll be here10:09
methoponingru: ok10:09
nickrudgcc has fortran even10:09
gnomefreakisnt that g77?10:09
HELPHI I TOTALY NEED HELP.....MY Ubuntu Wont DO>>>ANYHTING...IF i Type anything into the comand line it just says PASSWORD:.....?10:09
BergBTW...I found a geforce 6200 graphics card with Farcry and controller for $97...good or bad?10:09
navaroneborisattva, I believe the setting is worded disable ipv6 and so the setting should be set to true...right click to toggle10:09
gnomefreakHELP, put your user password there10:09
mweHELP: fix your caps lock key too10:09
poningruHELP: then put in your password10:09
nickrudit's gnu compilers, true. gcc was wrong.10:09
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borisattvahelp: use the password you use to get into ubuntu. its your 'pseudo-root password too10:10
HELPIt Doesnt work10:10
gnomefreakHELP, did you install ubuntu?10:10
borisattvanavarone: yep got it, just making sure10:10
TCTCHhi, what for a "Software Syntisizer" do I need to play MIDI in ubuntu?10:10
borisattvathanks10:10
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poningruHELP: just type it in and press enter10:10
kameronHOLY CRAP! the gcc man page has like.. 1045 pages!!!10:10
naliothHELP: put your username in first thing10:10
mwekameron: yeah :)10:10
kameronmwe: i'm never reading man pages again10:10
Peterwhen i run 'glxgears' when i quit it, it says "X Connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" is that correct?10:10
navaronenp boris10:10
gnomefreakkameron, yes it is :)10:11
navaronehope it helps10:11
poningruHELP: even if nothing shows up it doesnt mean your password isnt being entered10:11
mwekameron: so now you know what to be doing the rest of the day10:11
kameroni consider 20 pages a long man page. never mind over a thousand, that's retarded.10:11
gnomefreaknothing will show up for protection10:11
nickrudkameron, use info on that one :)10:11
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gnomefreakkameron, its easier to google gcc10:11
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kameronprobably gnomefreak10:12
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gnomefreakubotu tell kameron about gcc10:12
Bergso is a Gforce 6200 Graphics card for $97 good?10:12
Voodoo_Vibehow do i install grub?? im on live cd, but i have kubuntu installed. im new to Linux.... my  brother ran fixmbr from win xp cd...10:12
gnomefreaklmao it tells him to type man gcc lol10:12
nickrudBerg, not bad for Texas, bad for california10:12
mwekameron: you would typically be searching for something particular when reading the gcc page :)10:12
cartesian1984does anyone know of a good guide to recompiling the Linux kernel?10:12
naliothubotu: tell Voodoo_Vibe about recover10:12
Bergis it a good price?10:12
kameronmwe: i was just browsing.. stupid idea that was10:12
nickrudreasonable. Not particularly good.10:13
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Bergwell where can I get a good price for a good card? somewhere in hte $100 range?10:13
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C-O-L-Thello10:13
Voodoo_Vibenalioth: Thanx!10:13
C-O-L-Thow can install firefox 1.510:13
mwe!ff1510:14
ubotumwe: What?10:14
mwe!firefox1.510:14
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:14
gnomefreakubotu tell C-O-L-T about ff1.510:14
nickrudBerg, you should be able to get a 6800 for that, with careful shopping10:14
kameronBerg: it depends on how much performance you want. i'm not big into gaming or video editing, etc.. but i do play a few games, and i like cripst graphics.. i run a 6600gt, reasonable performance for the price.10:14
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: thanks10:14
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, yw10:14
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Bergso mine is good enough to last me a couple of years10:14
kameronBerg: any card you're interested in, google "benchmarks ___graphics-card-name-here___" to see how it performs compared to other cards.10:14
Bjelleklangis there a command to list all usergroups from bash?10:15
kameronBerg: what card do you have/10:15
nickrudBjelleklang, groups10:15
Bjelleklangah10:15
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jadewolfis there a way to tell ubuntu to upgrade all packages? I just installed it from the CDs I ordered online10:15
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methoecho "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt250010:15
Bergwell it comes with Farcry and a controller so thats also good10:15
gnomefreaksudo apt-get upgrade10:15
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nedis there somewhere i can find hardware optimizing for ubuntu?10:15
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methoponingru: do i need this command10:15
nickrudBjelleklang, ah, groups <user> , and cat /etc/group will tell you all10:15
kameronjadewolf: sudo apt-get upgrade10:15
Bergwhat about 512MB of ram for about $5510:15
Hoxzerwhat is the fastest way to create .iso image?10:15
navaroneBerg> controller like gamepad you mean?10:15
Hoxzerempty one10:15
Hoxzerand put files into it10:15
Bergyeah like USB controller10:15
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_Antar_can someone paste the contents of their .gtkrc-2.0 file for me?10:16
jadewolfwhats the sudo password its asking me for?10:16
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_Antar_mine is gone..10:16
Bjelleklangnickthanks'10:16
Berglooks like hybrid of Xbox and PS210:16
_Antar_and my root apps look ugly10:16
jadewolflol nvm10:16
kameronjadewolf: your password that you used to login10:16
cyberixI can't burn cds :-(10:16
navaroneberg that sounds reasonable...but maybe google card to see how good it is in reviews10:16
poningrubbl10:16
sklavhi guys10:16
jadewolfkameron: yeah I was thinking it was asking for root password but then I tried ine and it worked10:16
_Antar_can someone paste the contents of their .gtkrc-2.0 file for me?10:16
Bergwell ANYWAY...moving on. I put the ubuntu install CD and it did not autoplay but now I have a screen full of folders10:17
cyberixGnome detects an empty cd and asks me what I want to do, but when I start burning it tells me to insert an empty disk. Why?10:17
kameronjadewolf: ubuntu disables the root account by default for security reasons, and it's suggested that you use sudo10:17
kameron!tell jadewold about sudo10:17
mwe_Antar_: well why?10:17
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_Antar_cause i need to recreate one10:17
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verizdo anyone know any good howtos for JBOSS installation?10:17
navaroneBerg> I recently paid $35 for 256 so 55 for 512 is reasonable10:17
mwe_Antar_: just use switch210:17
IrITi there10:17
borisattvahmmm interesting.. while in firefox i was copy pasting a link http://http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595 and that lead me straight to www.microsoft.com10:17
_Antar_i need it to make my root apps look nice10:17
Bergshould I dual boot install from my desktop or when I turn on?10:17
borisattvais that firefox's doing?10:17
mwe_Antar_: from gtk-theme-switch10:17
_Antar_switch2?10:17
methoponingru: i followed the guide and should i restart again now?10:17
mwe_Antar_: yes10:17
jadewolfkameron: my ubuntu cds are from last spring, is there something I should do to alter so I ahve the most recent version? also gdm isn't starting up, any idea why?10:17
nickrudubuntu disables <logging> into the root account, only.10:18
mwe_Antar_: install gtk-theme-switch10:18
kameronjadewolf: what version are you running?10:18
jadewolfwarty10:18
mwe_Antar_: then run switch from a terminal window10:18
C-O-L-TDoes exist a kind of google earth for linux, or a world atlas, or some map system10:18
navaroneBerg are you asking how to install for dual boot?10:18
Bergyes10:18
kameron!tell jadewolf about breezy10:18
_Antar_installing10:18
Bergyes10:18
IrITanyone here has compiled psybnc on ubuntu?10:18
mweBerg: pop in the ubuntu cd after installing windows10:18
BergI have10:18
jadewolfkameron: should I wait till I get x working?10:19
mweBerg: go ahead10:19
Bergdone10:19
navaroneBergh> you boot with install cd in cd drive and make sure bios is set to boot from cd rom and when it boots follow instructions10:19
nickrudjadewolf, you really need to get the breezy iso: upgrading to breezy from warty is not a good idea.10:19
C-O-L-TDoes exist a kind of google earth for linux, or a world atlas, or some map system10:19
_Antar_ok...actually10:19
mweBerg: you'll have the option of resizing the windows partition to make room for ubuntu10:19
Bergthanks10:19
kameronjadewolf: it's up to you i guess. are you on a fresh install?10:19
_Antar_how do i make my root aps look nice?10:19
jadewolfkameron: yes10:19
_Antar_they used to but kde screwed them up10:19
Voodoo_Vibecan i just download some other boot loader from windows and then start Kubuntu from that one??10:19
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, i dont think so other than stars type maps10:19
_Antar_kde is gone now10:19
nalioth_Antar_: you shouldnt be using 'root' apps for long enough to be offended, imho10:20
jadewolfnickrud: hard to d/l and burn a new iso when I don't have a working OS10:20
_Antar_firestarter10:20
kameronjadewolf: warty is very old, it's probably best to install breezy. upgrading to breezy from warty is a long process.10:20
Bergboot from CD. make room for ubuntu. got it10:20
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nickrudjadewolf, ah.10:20
_Antar_i see it all the time10:20
Bergthanks10:20
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: but i can access country maps with it10:20
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_Antar_i am offended10:20
nickrudyou need to get warty up so you can get the iso. Ok.10:20
_Antar_now how can i fix it?10:20
navaroneC-O-L-T, try searching for earth3d in synaptic...it is a rougher prog than goog;e earth but functions10:20
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_Antar_there has to be a way to fix it because it was good before10:20
gnomefreakis there an earth 2d?10:20
jadewolfnickrud: so I guess I need to figure out why x wont start10:21
C-O-L-Tnavarone: can i access country maps and maps from it10:21
C-O-L-T?10:21
bambatai have a problem with my proftpd server10:21
gnomefreakmy pc wont let me use 3d :(10:21
bambatacan anyone help10:21
bambatame10:21
_Antar_i am sick of looking at firestarter with its crappy old gtk theme10:21
kameronjadewolf: note on the link that ubotu sent you, it says "Note: Upgrades from Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog) to Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) are not supported and not recommended. See HoaryUpgradeNotes to upgrade to Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog)"10:21
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bambatausers can log in10:21
kameronjadewolf: it'd probably be best to burn a new disc with breezy on it10:21
nickrudjadewolf, what vid card?10:21
bambatabut not list the repertories10:21
HELPIm Still having troulble,, Ubuntu wont let me use certain programs...including the one to change the ROOT password....Because it asks me for the root password and i dont know it and its not my user password10:21
SealyDavei cant for the love of god get my plugins running on firefox10:21
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navaroneC-O-L-T, I just took screenshot of program on my desktop...will paste in bin for you to see...brb10:22
jadewolfnickrud: nvidia AGP 6600 GT 128M10:22
kameronjadewolf: i have the same card10:22
bambatai need help please10:22
luk3=)10:22
C-O-L-Tnavarone: ok give me the link10:22
Voodoo_Vibenalioth: this looks hard! cant i just install grub on mbr, like its done on the installation??10:22
bambataif somebody knows proftpd well10:22
jadewolfkameron: I just want to get X up so I can d/l the iso and burn it10:22
mweman I wish it would be feasible to buy a new keyboard for a laptop10:22
kameronjadewolf: oh, i see10:22
naliothVoodoo_Vibe: you may do as you wish and are comfortable doing10:22
nickrudjadewolf, well, I've not done ati in a long while. How about posting /etc/X11/xorg.cong and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a failed login to pastebin?10:23
navarone!pastebin10:23
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:23
kameronjadewolf: you can download it by command line? and burn it.10:23
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jadewolfI have no webbrowser10:23
jadewolflynx and links are command not found10:23
mike-eI just intalled gcc and i'm trying to configure a package, it says no c compiler availabl10:23
kameronjadewolf: wget http://ubuntu.blah.blah.blah.iso10:23
Voodoo_Vibenalioth: yeah, since im new i want it as easy as possible. can i install grub on MBR and how with keeping my installed Kubuntu10:23
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jadewolfkemeron: need the iso name to do that :)10:24
HELPMy Ubuntu WILL NOT WORK...Somebody please help me10:24
gnomefreakmike-e, sudo apt-get install build-essential10:24
naliothVoodoo_Vibe: i'd follow the wiki to make sure you have a kubuntu to go back to10:24
Flying_Deaglemanhi all, I have a question....I have an SB Live! 24-bit sound card, and ubuntu reads it as a audigy LS.  This isn't true, of course, and I'd like to know how to get ubuntu to read it as an SB Live! 24bit.  On another note, I installed teamspeak, and it auto mutes my headphones, and my mic, how do I fix that?10:24
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C-O-L-Tnavarone: ????????/10:24
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navaronehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i676710:24
Voodoo_Vibenalioth: yeah but i dont understand mostly of it10:24
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methohello every1, i installed rt2500 for my card and still wireless card isnt working10:24
naliothVoodoo_Vibe: take it a step at a time10:25
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Stork!java10:25
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:25
kameronjadewolf: i'll get it for you in half a minute, a little busy10:25
Voodoo_Vibenalioth: ok i will try it.... can i ask you if i get into any troubles??10:25
gnomefreakHELP, are you the one that installed ubuntu on that pc?10:25
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naliothVoodoo_Vibe: there are several folks in here that are knowledgable10:25
HELPyeh10:25
gnomefreakthe password you used while installing ubuntu is the password you use10:26
HELPit doesnt work10:26
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HELPTried it a thousand times10:26
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gnomefreaki think you need it even to add a sudoer to the sudoer list10:26
Voodoo_Vibewhere is my fstab located??10:26
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jadewolfkameron: I got it downloaidng, I apt-get installed links10:27
methoany professionals on wireless networking in here?????10:27
KindredVoodoo_Vibe, /etc/fstab10:27
gnomefreak!wifi10:27
ubotuwifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto10:27
jadewolfkameron: 40 mins on download :-/10:27
Voodoo_VibeKindred: ok, Thanx10:27
kameronjadewolf: oh, okay. i just had it for you too.10:27
kameronjadewolf: that's not bad at all!10:27
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HELPBut oit askes me for that password Everytime i try and run ANYTHING.... it Wont even Run THe Atomatic Update Manager...10:27
sklavHELP, you cannot log in as user root10:27
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sklavyou must use sudo10:28
jean010:28
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jeanfrancais10:28
C-O-L-Tnavarone: I have seen it, but I can not see details from countries from example I can not look at New York10:28
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Berghi10:28
mweHELP: then edit the grub entry and add init=/bin/bash then boot and reset the password and make sure the user is in the admin group10:28
jeansalu je mappele mathieu10:28
gnomefreak!fr10:28
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais10:28
jeansalu10:28
gnomefreakyw10:29
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BergI came back from trying to install ubuntu with windows but when it asked if I wanted to create a partition I was scared it would delete the rest of the data on here10:29
jeanje mappele mathieu10:29
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HELPDUDE...i dont know ANYTHING abotu what im doin here...] 10:29
Berghi Mathew10:29
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gnomefreakberg you need to resize win partion than add some space for ubuntu10:29
IdleOnejean>  pour discussion en francais tu peut aller au #ubuntu-fr10:29
naliothjean: either #ubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-offtopic10:29
Berghow do I do that?10:29
jeansalu  les mac,10:30
jean?10:30
jean?????allo10:30
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mwejean: speak english or join #ubuntu-fr please10:30
BergI dont have two computers so I must do either this or that10:30
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gnomefreakjean, /join #ubuntu-fr10:30
naliothjean: anglais ici, franais en #ubuntu-fr10:30
dell500anyone here know how to get port 6881 working for Azureus? I've edited the access control for my router and added the port to be open, but it's not working....10:30
the-antiquewill ubuntu format my hd?10:30
Berg^^10:31
gnomefreakthe-antique, yes10:31
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IdleOnethe-antique>  yes if thats what you want10:31
Mabus06how do you get archive manager to read rar files10:31
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navaroneC-O-L-T, I don't think it gives anythign like that detail10:31
mweHELP: is ubuntu on the computer you're using now?10:31
Bergwhat if I dont want it to be formatted? and still install it10:31
gnomefreakberg your gonna have to use manual partioner10:31
the-antiqueand if I don't want it to, will it leave the files there alone?10:31
HELPYeah Im using it know...Is it Possible for anone to Access My PC Remotely and Fix the problems With My Ubuntu..?10:32
Bergcan someone guide me through it step by step *gets paper and pencil10:32
C-O-L-Thow can i set my whole gnome to have windows like characters10:32
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mwedell500: I think you need to forward the port10:32
alekandrEvening guys :] 10:32
C-O-L-Tnavarone: can't i simply run google earth somehow10:32
mweHELP: well you say you can't log in?10:32
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gnomefreakubotu tell berg about install10:33
navaroneC-O-L-T, you can try themes and chose one that tries to recreate windows environment10:33
alekandrI cant seem to get xmms to output anything, I've installed all the codecs and plugins that it needs, audacity works, as does totem when play music. XMMS< just gives me an error saying sound card not configured :(10:33
Bergwell ubotu is annoying10:33
Bergthe bot sucks IMO10:33
navaroneC-O-L-T, I dunno if there is an online or linux version10:33
jean__salut le mac??????????10:33
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the-antique and if I don't want it to format, will it leave the files already on my hd alone?10:33
Berg...^^^10:33
C-O-L-Tnavarone: how where can i find that? I am using Linux just for 3 months10:33
jean__vous ete des mate!10:33
mwejean__: hello speak english or leave10:33
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IdleOne!tell the-antique  about install10:33
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the-antiquejean__: parle anglais, ou allez au #ubuntu-fr10:34
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navaroneC-O-L-T, online at google.com...but I dunno if there is an online one...try the web site for linux version...but I doubt it exists at this point10:34
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jean__caca pipi popo10:34
Kovecses!w32codecs10:34
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install10:34
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C-O-L-Tnavarone: ok10:34
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the-antiquethanks idleone10:34
IdleOnenp10:35
mweHELP: can you log in to ubuntu or what?10:35
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HELPNo i can log in to my user account....and certaqin things just work.. e.g. X-Chat and firefox.... But Most things dont work, Because Im Bieng asked For A ROOT password and its not the same as my user password10:35
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HELPi cant even type that fast..SORRY10:36
gnomefreakHELP, you got passed the log-in screen?10:36
HELPyeh10:36
mweHELP: well then I guess you cannot set up ssh access for me to log in and have a look at it10:36
the-antiquewell, time for football. GO SKINZ!10:36
gnomefreakthe password is the same by default if you installed ubuntu10:36
nickrudo.O10:36
HELPI can Try..10:36
KovecsesHELP, did you ever set a root passwd10:36
gnomefreakif you didnt install it ask the person that did10:36
HELPnope...10:36
HELPIt never worked from the start10:36
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IdleOnehelp the password is the same as your user password10:37
Kr0ntabheya folks10:37
gnomefreakHELP, does it work for gui apps?10:37
gnomefreaklike synaptic?10:37
Kovecsesbbl10:37
mweHELP: it should never ask you for a root password10:37
gnomefreakit should just say password10:38
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HELPi installed it and i set the user password..... But it doesnt work for this ROOT password i dunno why..hang oinm ill find out what it says again...10:38
gnomefreakHELP, does it work for synaptic?10:38
mweHELP: you're not using ubuntu10:38
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yggdrasilElo gents10:38
mweHELP: ubuntu does not ask for the root password10:38
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gnomefreakmwe he might be trrying to use su10:38
gnomefreaktrying10:39
yggdrasilhey mwe i just wanted to thank you for the help yesterday10:39
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mweyggdrasil: you're welcome10:39
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C-O-L-Tnavarone: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_GoogleEarth_with_wine10:39
C-O-L-Thttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_GoogleEarth_with_wine10:39
sorush20any one here know of a webcam that works with linux?10:39
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yggdrasilive got a buncha computer with ubuntu on it10:40
mwesorush20: I think most do10:40
yggdrasilwell like 310:40
zcat[1] sorush20: bt878 capture cards work excellently10:40
yggdrasilthe fourth is fighting it10:40
HELPwhen i first tried to fix this problem using FAQs from other sites i ended up with what i started,,, this mit not make any sense to anyone but this is what i typed...its all copied and pasted (i dont know anything about linux).. user@ubuntu:~$ oxao10:40
HELPbash: oxao: command not found10:40
HELPuser@ubuntu:~$ sudo adduser accountname10:40
HELPPassword:10:40
HELPSorry, try again.10:40
HELPPassword:10:40
HELPSorry, try again.10:40
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yggdrasilive got an old mac clone running it10:40
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nase!java10:40
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:40
sorush20really like logitech creative ?10:40
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sorush20anyone here think ubuntu should do an intro for using the computer?10:41
nickrudno10:41
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kameronjadewolf: if you need help burning the iso, just let me know when you're done downloading10:41
Pygifreaky: ping10:41
Pygi!Iso10:41
ubotusomebody said iso was download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto10:41
nickrudsorush20, unless you want to write it10:41
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BergOK...I am defragmenting and then backing up some info (device drives) after that I will try to install windows10:42
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gnomefreakPygi, im here and i sent you the start but it came back saying your mail was bad10:43
mweBerg: I thought windows was installed10:43
Bergoops10:43
mweBerg: and you were trying to install ubuntu as well10:43
Berg*I will install ubuntu10:43
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Bergcorrection10:43
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yggdrasilmwe i got a question10:43
Bergoops10:43
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nase!source creator10:43
ubotuWish i knew, nase10:43
mweBerg: go ahead it's straight forward10:43
nasewhats the link to source list creator thing10:43
BergI know10:43
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mweyggdrasil: yes?10:43
nickrud!easysources10:44
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, nickrud10:44
gnomefreak!easysource10:44
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:44
Pygignomefreak: to what mail?10:44
kameron!easysource10:44
yggdrasilive gota laptop and im trying to get ubuntu breazy on it but it gets halfway thru and says osme packags could not be installed10:44
yggdrasilwhat you make of that10:44
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Bergthere is always this thing in the back of my mind that tells me something bad WILL happen10:44
Pygido not abuse ubotu please, thanks10:44
gnomefreakthe one you gave me said it was a bad or missing domain name10:44
nickrudhmp, anyone know how to do an indirect for ubotu :)10:44
mweyggdrasil: bad cd I recon10:44
KindredBerg, really you want to backup everything important so it doesn't matter even if it does..10:44
yggdrasilor crappy cd drive10:44
BergK10:44
HELPShould i just Re-install UBUNTU....10:44
naliothnickrud: and indirect?10:44
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IdleOneHELP>  yes10:45
BergI dont really have ANYTHING important since I just formatted10:45
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nickruda link, for cognates10:45
Bergand installed the drivers10:45
yggdrasilstrange cuz i used the cd for other installs with nop10:45
yggdrasilproblem10:45
Bergand got my modem working10:45
naliothnickrud: you've lost me10:45
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KindredBerg, well not much to worry about then, it'll likely go fine anyway10:45
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mweHELP: why would you reinstall?10:45
Bergwell OK...10:45
nickrudso us folks that don't always remember the right ubotu thingo can be not so stupid :)10:45
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naliothHELP: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin (read the /topic)10:45
HELPI just dunno, Because i did it last itme and it was realy hard cos i had to set it so that it didnt wipe my existing Data.. and my pc still runs XP10:46
HELPSORRY10:46
gnomefreakberg right after install it has things to move?10:46
Bergwhat?10:46
nickrudnalioth, indirect == pointer to the right thing10:46
naliothnickrud: that would be nice, eh?10:46
yggdrasildoes updatedb go thru and add smb mounts ?10:46
gnomefreakberg you just install windows like 30 mins ago?10:46
Bergno10:46
Bergyesterday10:46
nickrudlol, I'll ask cafuego when I get a chance10:46
mweHELP: is the user you're logged on as the one you created during install?10:46
BergI intalled my modem today10:46
HELPyehn10:47
IdleOneHELP>  what is it yu are trying to do that it asks for password?10:47
yggdrasilmount10:47
HELPyeh..10:47
gnomefreakohh ok10:47
HELPThe automatic update mannager..10:47
HELPit just wont work10:47
Bergdone defragmenting10:47
Bergsee you in ubuntu10:47
gnomefreakHELP, try sudo apt-get upgrade10:47
Berg;)10:47
IdleOneok type sudo apt-get update10:47
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mweHELP: type "groups" in a terminal. does it mention admin?10:47
HELPhang on ill try it10:48
HELPits ses user admin ect.10:48
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yggdrasilgood luck bergus10:48
mweHELP: ok. good10:48
gnomefreakHELP, open terminal and type sudo apt-get upgrade10:49
mweHELP: but "sudo ls" followed by your user password and enter says what?10:49
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HELPi typed .. sudo apt-get upgrade and it sed.. Password:10:50
gnomefreaktype user password10:50
IdleOnenow type in your password10:50
SealyDavecan someone help please with installing java/flash plugins for firefox1.510:50
Pygi!java10:50
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:50
Pygi!javadebs10:50
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy10:50
Pygi!flash10:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats10:50
HELPit just ses _ user@ubuntu:~$10:51
PygiSealyDave: there you go :)10:51
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SealyDaveman i installed easykubuntu already10:51
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mweHELP: you supposed to answer with your users password followed by return to the password prompt10:51
yggdrasilis there anyway to burn mac dmg image files to a cd in ubuntu ?10:51
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Pygiwell, just burn it as data cd10:51
erUSULSealyDave,  ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so  /inst_dir/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so10:51
fissyhello, is it possible to mount an iso of a dvd and it be playable in totem?10:52
naliothyggdrasil: you'll need to google a perl file called "dmg2iso" for taht10:52
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yggdrasilnalioth10:52
HELPi do and it just ses ........ user@ubuntu:~$10:52
yggdrasilthanks10:52
HELPlike it did before10:52
naliothPygi: it's not so easy as that. see above10:52
SealyDaveerUSUL: so i goto plugins directory and type that?10:52
HELPbut it didnt do that before it just sed it was wrong 3 time and then it sed10:53
HELPuser@ubuntu:~$10:53
mweHELP: it didn't complain about the password being wrong?10:53
HELPno not this time10:53
Pyginalioth: ah, well :/ can't you just save it as a data cd?10:53
gnomefreakhes up to date?10:53
gnomefreaktry sudo apt-get update10:53
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HELPbut it also didnt do...Anythin10:53
gnomefreaksee if they run :)10:53
naliothPygi: a dmg is and is not a image. it needs to be polished into a standard iso10:53
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mwegnomefreak: maybe he's sources.list only has the cd path10:53
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sverresomeone here who has tried salome-platform?...need som help installing.10:54
erUSULSealyDave, it should work from any dir but you have to change inst_dir for the dir you instaled ff1.5 and you need to install (previusly) de jre deb that ubotu told you10:54
gnomefreakmwe it will still give him that as output tho10:54
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Pyginalioth: well, I do understand that.... but can't I save a dmg without "unpacking" on a media ?10:54
mwegnomefreak: what?10:54
BalsamicViniggahello all10:54
nickrudff1.510:54
djfdsfdsanyone know what im missing and getting this, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables10:54
HELPif i try and run the atomatic updat thing now it ses....Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic10:54
nickrud!ff1.510:54
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:54
nickruddoh10:54
gnomefreakthan atleast we will know that sudo is fine and the updated notifier hasnt gotten to him yet :)10:54
naliothPygi: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please10:54
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Pyginalioth: k10:54
mwegnomefreak: yeah10:55
gnomefreakHELP, type sudo apt-get update10:55
gnomefreakthan you password at prompt10:55
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Pyginalioth: there I am10:55
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adamhI used to be able to print to my Canon S520. For the past month or two (on Dapper), when I print I see my printer's light blinking as if I were printing something... but then it stops, CUPS says the job is finished, and nothing comes out of the printer. Any ideas?10:56
HELPit didnt do nothin10:56
SealyDaveerUSUL so i went to sun site and i only see rpm packages10:56
guest666whats the package called for tcl?10:56
gnomefreakdid it complain about wrong password?10:56
C-O-L-Thelp me please10:56
C-O-L-Thow to install ww2d10:56
C-O-L-TI am new in Linux10:56
C-O-L-Thelp me please it is urgent10:56
cleohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6768 can someone look at this and tell me how to set the LogLevel to debug? (cups)10:57
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Pygiguest666: tcl? :)10:57
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adamhcleo: sudo nano /etc/cups/cupsd.conf10:57
guest666heh no10:57
mwegnomefreak: isn't that what it would do, nothing, if sources.list is empty10:57
gnomefreakHELP, did it say wrong password?10:57
nickrudSealyDave, jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin is what you want10:57
guest666Package tcl is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:57
guest666This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:57
guest666is only available from another source10:57
gnomefreakmwe yes thats why im asking10:57
Pygiguest: use synaptic10:57
adamhcleo: You should see the line. Then you have to run "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart" to make your change take effect.10:57
guest666what is that10:57
HELPno10:57
gnomefreakubotu tell guest666 about javadebs10:58
HELP it just came up wiht the user promt10:58
Pygiguest: go system --> administration --> Synaptic10:58
IdleOneguest666>  why do you need tcl?10:58
nickrudguest666, you need to expand your sources.list, see what the next link says10:58
HELPprompt sorry10:58
gnomefreakok good HELP :)10:58
nickrud!easysource10:58
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:58
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C-O-L-Thelp me10:58
erUSUL!tell SealyDave about javadebs10:58
gnomefreak!help10:58
guest666gnomefreak why do i need to  know about java?10:58
LoevborgAnyone using an ibook?10:58
cleoadamh: yes I see, I overlooke the linke, thanks10:58
HELPyeh10:58
cleo*line10:58
gnomefreakthats not what i wanted :(10:58
C-O-L-Thow to install ww2d10:58
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Pygiubotu tell guest666 about synaptic10:58
gnomefreakguest666, did you just ask what was java.deb?10:59
guest666hmm no10:59
guest666i am asking about tcl, and the above gcc error i had above10:59
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, sudo apt-get install <package>10:59
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naseare all the repos on source-o-matic safe? dont want to break stuff..10:59
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borisattvaquick q, i'm installing kubuntu desktop as addition to Gnome which i love, to take advantage of some of the KApps, and its aksing me which display manager to use KDM or GDM, anyone with experience with both to recommend one over other?10:59
C-O-L-Tsomebody?10:59
gnomefreaksorry guest666  i saw you say what is that after someone said something about java10:59
Pygiguest: well, Synaptic helps you installs tcl :P10:59
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: it is a program like google earth10:59
gnomefreaknase, yes for most part10:59
naseok11:00
guest666Pygi everything is command line11:00
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: do you know?11:00
guest666for me11:00
adamhborisattva: You can't go wrong. Since you're using KDE, maybe KDM is best.11:00
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: it will work with this?11:00
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aquariusborisattva, it doesn't really matter which you choose.11:00
adamhborisattva: Either will work fine11:00
gnomefreakno C-O-L-T  i dont and i thought he said it was called something else11:00
Pygiguest: are you using dapper11:00
guest6665.111:00
borisattvathanks guys11:00
guest666some badger crap11:00
aquariusborisattva, you can just install the KDE applications and run them on your normal Gnome desktop if you like, as well.11:00
Pygibreezy badger...?11:00
gnomefreakPygi, yes11:00
fissycharming11:01
gnomefreakthats what 5.1 is11:01
Pygiwell, he's calling it crap :/11:01
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gnomefreakhe doesnt know any better i guess11:01
fissybadgers are awesome11:01
Pygithat's no good you know, and you won't get far with that :P11:01
guest666whatever the latest is, i dont know the code names11:01
guest666i said 5.111:01
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gnomefreakbut if he thinks its crap he installed it he can figure out how to uninstall it :)11:01
Pygiwell, it surely isn't crap :P11:01
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mwebur[n] er: but there is no 5.111:01
antisepticxclick the uninstall button lol11:02
mweguest666: there is no 5.1. it's 5.04 or 5.1011:02
gnomefreakmwe no there isnt but win users dont know that they think they can leave the 0 off11:02
antisepticxoh man11:02
guest6665.10 = 5,111:02
IdleOneguest666>  install tcl via synaptic package manager11:02
guest666no GUI!11:02
PygiIdke: he doesnt have gui :P11:02
guest666i just need the package name11:02
Pygik, wait a sec pls11:02
IdleOneguest666>  5.10 = 5.1 only in mathematical terms11:02
gnomefreakapt-cache search tcl11:03
gnomefreakit will output the names that have that in it11:03
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mweguest666: 5.10 is the october (10th month) release of 200511:03
antisepticxlooking for what package?11:03
guest666thanks gn0me11:03
gnomefreakyw11:04
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guest666anyone know what im missing and getting this(trying to compile eggdrop), checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables11:04
antisepticxopps just needed to read huh11:04
Pygiguest: well, gcc :P11:04
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guest666gcc is there.....11:04
cleoadamh: maybe you know what this means? It happens when I print from any windows client through IPP on cups printserver, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6769 (debug loglevel) ... this continous till I get "Unable to open /dev/null too many files open"11:04
antisepticxall of it11:04
mwegnomefreak: or descriptions. you need apt-cache -n search to only search the names :)11:04
sorush20nickrud: yes i mean an animation like linspire11:04
nickrudguest666, sudo apt-get install build-essential , I would think11:04
Pygitcl8.0 is the name guest :)11:04
antisepticxcorrect11:04
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: please help me http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction look at this11:05
Pygiguest: and make sure you dont use gcc 4.011:05
antisepticxyippee11:05
Pygiguest: it is troublesome11:05
antisepticx3.411:05
adamhcleo: You'll have to put more -- there's no error at the bottom of that snippet.11:05
guest666tcllib seemed to work too11:05
nickrudsorush20, ? I got lost in the chatter11:05
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cleoadamh: but thats it, the same message repeats11:05
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guest666thanks nickrud11:06
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adamhcleo: It means that /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb is exiting for some reason. That's all I can figure out, sorry :(11:06
adamhcleo: I'm having CUPS problems, too :P11:07
guest666commands like  apt-get install build-essential just dont pop into someone's head ! :) and thats all i needed11:07
gnomefreakok back to ubuntu brb11:07
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak:??????????????11:07
nickrudguest666, lol, no they don't :)11:07
antisepticxyou could've went to the ubuntu package site11:07
cleoadamh: uhm ;)11:07
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antisepticxthen do some dpkg -i11:08
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cleoadamh: It does not happen If I print from another linux box ...11:08
C-O-L-Tsomebody can help me in installing ww2d program like google earth http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction11:08
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mesheC-O-L-T: read the instructions the site you are quoting, they explain it there: http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Download11:08
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antisepticxlol11:09
C-O-L-Tmeshe: i am using linux for 3 months, i simpy can not make anything, just with adept11:09
C-O-L-Tmeshe: :))11:09
C-O-L-Tmeshe: i need a guide11:09
antisepticxhumm11:09
antisepticxgoogle11:10
mesheyou dont' need to make anything, you need to download the files, and unzip them... read the page i just quoted11:10
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antisepticxreadme11:10
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C-O-L-Tmeshe: i will try it11:10
antisepticxinstall11:10
IdleOne!tell mesh about read11:10
IdleOne!tell meshe  about read11:10
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BearHunterI am trying to dual boot ubuntu with windows and having a problem can someone help me?11:11
thegladiatorcan any one connect to www.kde-look.org ?11:11
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haasteemhi, could anybody please tell how to change the keyboard layout when using blackbox?11:11
antisepticxany good dri/drm questions today11:11
antisepticxI hate those11:12
haasteemgnome-keyboard-properties doesn't work11:12
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BearHunteri have windows installed on hda and are trying to install ubuntu on hdb11:12
thegladiatori wonder if its my browser settings , please can someone check the site is accepting conenctions ?11:12
C-O-L-Tmeshe: in case that i fail installing it please help me11:12
naliothBearHunter: the grub needs to go on hda11:12
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C-O-L-Tmeshe: i am following the instructions now :)11:12
sobersabrehi guys. does anybody know who's in charge of gdb on breezy for amd64 ?11:13
IdleOnethegladiator>  nope11:13
jadewolfusing cdrecord how would I burn this.iso to a cdr on /dev/hdd?11:13
BearHunternalioth: how do i do that?11:13
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Kindredthegladiator, not for me11:13
nickrudthegladiator, another no11:13
antisepticxwow11:13
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thegladiatormany thanks :-) so it is the site11:13
haasteemthegladiator: same here11:13
erezyo11:13
jadewolfkameron: are you still here?11:13
naliothBearHunter: when it asks where to install grub, tell it hda11:13
BearHunterits not asking me that yet . . .11:13
kameronjadewold: yes, i was out for a sec, now back in,.11:13
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jadewolfkameron: using cdrecord how would I burn this.iso to a cdr on /dev/hdd?11:14
zcat[1] jadewolf: sudo cdrecord speed=16 -v -dao --eject dev=/dev/hdd this.iso11:14
BearHunteri am on the partition disks screen11:14
sobersabreguys how do I resolve responsibility chain of package maintainers ?11:14
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BearHunterand i cannot go any further11:14
nickrudsobersabre, you get the signing key off of a pgp server11:14
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kameronjadewolf: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 filename.iso11:15
antisepticxanyone boot an iso off of a hardrive ?11:15
nickrudsobersabre, as best as I can read that question, that is11:15
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Nafallosobersabre: we don't have maintainership in Ubuntu, so all core-devs are responsible for that package...11:15
antisepticxnot a live cd11:15
BearHunterit is saying that "no root file system is defined"11:15
naliothBearHunter: you need to assign a partition the '/' symbol11:15
antisepticx/dev/hdb11:15
erUSULsobersabre, enter a bug report in bugzilla for the package11:15
naliothsee y'all later11:15
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BearHunterwhich partition and how do i do that?11:16
jadewolfkameron: thanks its burning now, gonna install it soon as its done :)11:16
kameronjadewolf: :D11:16
kameronjadewolf: breezy is sooo nice, i can't wait for dapper11:16
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antisepticxnot hda2 or 511:17
antisepticxmaybe11:17
CodenameKTdapper is broken I hate ubuntu11:17
antisepticxneed more info "jonny5"11:17
antisepticxwhy11:17
nickrudlol, a troll one can love :)11:18
guest666hmmm tcl is given me problems now :/11:18
CodenameKTI'm just joking11:18
BearHunternalioth: I cannot see where I assign the '/' symbol11:18
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NafalloCodenameKT: well, dapper is not stable. and I haven't seen it broken, if it is; could you please file a bug? :-)11:18
CodenameKTit is broken but i don't hate11:18
CodenameKTthat is such a strong word11:18
KindredBearHunter, for mount point on one of the partitions11:18
noirequusBearHunter: in the partitioning step, you need to go over each partition and enter all the required info11:18
Nafalloagreed. but it is not broken for me :-P11:18
noirequusBearHunter: perhaps it'd be easier to just make some free space and let linux 'use free space on partition'11:19
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CodenameKTNafallo: Does the network setup properly for u?11:19
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BearHunteri am using a separate drive for ubuntu11:19
antisepticxwanna see a broken dist. lookup Evil Entity11:19
sorush20guys where can I get this file libqt3c102-mt?11:19
CodenameKTNafallo: Or does your network connections automatically configure correctly11:19
antisepticxBroken from the start11:19
NafalloCodenameKT: I have network-manager installed, so yes. :-)11:19
telkusalgun latino11:20
gnomefreakNafallo, im betting its broken for you you just dont know it yet :)11:20
noirequustelkus: que idioma ?11:20
gnomefreakNafallo, install anjuta :))11:20
antisepticx:)11:20
telkusespaol11:20
gnomefreak!es11:20
noirequus!es11:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:20
NafalloCodenameKT: it is known however and the quick workaround is to add auto-lines to /etc/network/interfaces :-)11:20
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Nafallognomefreak: I wouldn't use it even if it was installed ;-)11:21
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gnomefreaklol11:21
Nafallognomefreak: what's up with it? :-)11:21
gnomefreakits broken11:21
jadewolfkameron: is there anything special I should do on install since I hae a 6600 GT?11:21
Di42lois there another open-source gui ftp program for gnome except gftp ?11:21
Belgainquick question which has been bugging me, would be grateful if someone could help me out.... how do i disable autostarting of RAID arrays on boot?11:21
CodenameKTNafallo: oh ok. It's just I can fix every problem I get on linux as long as I have an internet connection. but without one i am dead in the water like 90% of the time11:21
gnomefreaktheres a patched version of it but cant compile it11:21
nickrudsorush20, that qt package is very old; you need to find something that depends on a qt package that is more recent11:21
bloodwhen i try to connect to my other computer it wants me to log in so i put my pw in and it keeps asking me to do it over any1 help me?11:21
Belgaini think they get autostarted by the kernel rather than by mdadm...11:21
kameronjadewolf: not really. once you get the system installed, assuming X works properly, install the nvidia-glx package, and you're laughing.11:22
jadewolfokay11:22
kemikDi42lo:  there are no really good ftp clients for linux afaik11:22
telkusalgien que me ayude con asterisk11:22
antisepticxanybody have high power 3d without an nv or ati11:22
nickrudDi42lo, not that I know of11:22
CodenameKTkemik: What!?11:22
kameronjadewolf: or giggling like a school girl, whatever you prefer really11:22
Nafallognomefreak: well. WHAT is broken? :-)11:22
sorush20nickrud: the new .deb package for linux skype2 needs that?11:22
kemikDi42lo:  gftp is what ppl usually refer to.. but i dont like it ;)11:22
haasteemhi, could anybody please tell how to change the keyboard layout when using blackbox?11:22
zcat[1] kameron: umm and reconfigure X to use nvidia instead of nv11:22
gnomefreaki heard they fixed the OOo problem not overwrting the lang. file11:22
Nafallognomefreak: bugreport?11:22
BearHunterOK i think i got it . . . I had to select the LVM option correct?11:22
Kindredgftp is a bit buggy.11:22
gnomefreakNafallo, yes there is11:22
antisepticxI mean hardware11:22
nickrudsorush20, that's a package from Debian; take a look at what seveas has11:22
kameronzcat[1] : what configuration is needed?11:22
Di42loanyways...what is the command to get full directroy with the terminal ftp command ?11:23
nickrud!seveas11:23
ubotuhmm... seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:23
nickrudheh, it exists :)11:23
gnomefreakNafallo, the bug report says to install anjuta 1.2.4a but it doesnt compile right11:23
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Nafallodamn! I thought Seveas was a person :-P11:23
zcat[1] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:23
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SeveasNafallo, I'm not :)11:23
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NafalloSeveas: :-)11:23
nickrudbots are :)11:23
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Seveas!seveas =~ s/a semi/<reply> Seveas has a semi/11:24
ubotuOK, Seveas11:24
Seveas!+seveas11:24
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:24
gnomefreakdo they have a date for flight3?11:24
SeveasNafallo, better?11:24
antisepticxanyone using irssi11:24
Seveasgnomefreak, not yet11:24
NafalloSeveas: indeed :-)11:24
Kovecsesirssi is cool11:24
kameronzcat[1] : for me, nvidia-glx enable was good enough.11:24
zcat[1] hmm.. ok11:24
gnomefreak:(11:24
nickrudSeveas, if you could be more clear that community includes universe & multiverse ...11:25
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gnomefreakim assuming they fixed the locales issues?11:25
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sorush20nickrud: the Seveas repositories11:25
CodenameKTantisepticx: I use bitchx it is like irssi11:25
kameronzcat[1] : maybe. try to put kameron in your messages so i actually find them :P11:25
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nickrudabsolut-damn-tutly11:26
CodenameKTSeveas: I never met a talking repository before11:26
sobersabredoes anyone here use ubuntu on amd64 system ?11:26
kameronsobersabe: yes11:26
sobersabrekameron: have you tried to use GDB ?11:26
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Nafallosobersabre: yes.11:26
kameronsobersabe: what is that>?11:26
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Nafallokameron: gnu debugger :-)11:26
zcat[1] kameron: also when i updated, the last version of ubuntu was using the old nvidia packages.. they broke and I had to fix stuff up manually, so I'm not sure how much autoconfig the packages do when installed cleanly :)11:27
antisepticxKovecses < anything special about it?11:27
sobersabrekameron: nevermind.11:27
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Kovecsesantisepticx, its non-gui11:27
sobersabreNafallo: and YOU ? have you tried to use gdb ?11:27
Kovecsesantisepticx, very light11:27
kameronsobersabre sorry, never used it11:27
mwesobersabre: I think most folks with an amd64 processor are using the 32bit ubuntu11:27
Kovecsesantisepticx, but i still use xchat11:27
kameronzcat[1] : it's amazing how well packages work when they install clean :P11:27
sobersabrekameron: I could've guessed that ; )11:28
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googhow come i can't login to wiki.ubuntu.org with my newly created launchpad account?11:28
Nafallosobersabre: I'm on dapper, but it worked in the breezy devel cycle :-)11:28
Nafallomwe: no, we are not :-)11:28
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sobersabreNafallo: well it doesn't I've filed a bug... maybe I should try this Dapper... is it stable ?11:28
Kovecsesubuntu is sweet ... after using gentoo for so long its so nice that packages are installed so quickly11:28
mweNafallo: are you most amd64 users?11:28
kameronmwe: i used amd64 for a day, then switched11:29
Nafallosobersabre: no. what bugnumber is that? :-)11:29
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CodenameKTKovecses: nice, a gentoo user who switched11:29
antisepticxKovecses > kewl11:29
mwekameron: yeah11:29
Nafallomwe: nope, but everyone I talked to with amd64 have used ubuntu for their arch :-)11:29
KovecsesCodenameKT, your a former gentooer11:29
sobersabreNafallo: I cannot remember by heart... need to ... skim the bookmarks...11:29
kameronNafallo: talk to me11:29
mweNafallo: I challenge you to view a flash or java page in 64bit ubuntu11:29
AstralJavaHi all, anyone in who's had success in loading smsc-ircc2 module, for IrDA connections?11:29
sobersabreNafallo: actually it is not much of a bug: the gdb simply dies upon usage with segfault.11:29
Nafallokameron: about? :-)11:29
CodenameKTKovecses: I have tried everything under the stars since I started the linux ride in 199911:30
KovecsesCodenameKT, yeah me too11:30
Nafallomwe: java works fine, flash is not ubuntus fault :-)11:30
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mweNafallo: to my knowledge there is no working java plugin11:30
kameronNafallo: i was just joking.. "everyone I talked to with amd64 have used ubuntu for their arch"11:30
Nafallosobersabre: does it work on i386? :-)11:30
CodenameKTmwe: huh?11:30
sobersabreNafallo: are you kidding?!?!?!?!? :)11:30
mweCodenameKT: for 64bit11:30
CodenameKTmwe: oh yeah yeah ok nm11:30
Mabus06I have a cd image file (CDI) that is 775MB... but it's supposed to fit on a 700MB cd... am I missing something?11:31
antisepticxubuntu is just like any other deb dist11:31
=== gnomefreak glad i have 32bit :)
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CodenameKTMabus06: they tricked you11:31
Nafallomwe: apt-cache search blackdown :-) it's in multiverse11:31
=== Kindred happy with 64bit
gnomefreakantisepticx, its nothing like sarge :)11:31
googanyone know why i can't login to wiki.ubuntu.org ? i created a launchpad account...11:31
sobersabreantisepticx: I disagree - no debian release would've come without a working debugger!11:31
nasedoes ubuntu have video 4 linux built in the kernel?11:31
sobersabrenase: no. as module.11:32
kameronnase: no11:32
mweNafallo: I didn't say it's ubuntus fault. there is simply just to much that doesn't work or only works half for my taste. but that's just me11:32
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sobersabrenase: do you know the diff ?11:32
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nasei just want it so i can work my webcam :/11:32
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mweNafallo: blackdown has a browser plugin that works on 64bit ubuntu? I think not11:32
sobersabreNafallo: but it's ubuntu's fault I don't have a debugger... isn't it ?11:32
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kameronNafallo: if i wasn't using ubuntu as a desktop system, i'd go with the proper version11:32
antisepticxwell you could probably find a way to incorp anything ubuntu has or dosn't have in or out of it11:32
gnomefreakhey atleast you get a firewall with the kernel what want everything in kernel lol :) j/k11:32
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F4k3hi11:33
antisepticxmaybe not the debug11:33
sobersabremwe: there is a 64bit plugin. it  is not in the latest JRE though...11:33
mwesobersabre: blackdown?11:33
sobersabreI will go back to the roots: Debian.11:33
guest666how do i tell apt not to use cdrom as  install source11:33
F4k3Got one question. Is there anyway to install Ubuntu about network ??11:33
sobersabremwe: Sun Microsystems.11:33
Mabus06CodenameKT, but I have several CDI files and they're all larger than 700MB... ?11:33
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sobersabreuse java.sun.com11:33
Kovecsesdebian is cool for some things... but for a desktop system ubuntu is key11:33
antisepticxjust depends how bored you are11:33
gnomefreakput a # infront of the cdrom repo11:33
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mwesobersabre: what version?11:33
guest666where gnomefreak11:34
Berghi11:34
BergI am back11:34
F4k3hi11:34
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antisepticxfor a quick setup ubuntu is nice11:34
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sobersabre1.4.x I don't remember exactly. browse the freaking site.11:34
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antisepticxndiswrapper11:34
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BergI have both OS's now11:34
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gnomefreakubotu tell guest666 about sources11:34
Nafallosobersabre: you have a debugger. it might now work on everything though. that's not ubuntus fault in general. depends on what caused the "bug" :-)11:34
Bergbut I have a probles11:34
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Bergproblem11:34
Berg-_-11:34
gnomefreakbot/both11:34
F4k3I have a notebook without cdrom drives and wanna install ubuntu about network. Is that possible ???11:34
CodenameKTMabus06: then logic permits us to think that maybe the people making these images know that u have a 700mb disk and made it accordingly. I don't believe u will have a problem burning. I don't know the CDI format so It could be a couple mb is bloat and won't even be burned to the cd11:34
Nafallomwe: yes, IIRC you can use blackdown with firefox. there is a guide on the wiki... :-)11:35
sobersabreerUSUL: isn't farewell = goodbye ?11:35
Kovecsesgnomefreak, plus ubuntu had the latest gnome :)11:35
guest666well its not in the sources.list file11:35
antisepticxpcx11:35
Bergit seems that when I set the partition space I made  ubuntu 46GB while XP is now only 10GB....how can I change that?11:35
gnomefreakKovecses, that too :)11:35
bart_thos anyone know how to install the ircspy dcc manager11:35
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Bergw/o deleting windows11:35
mwewell there are to many problems also like bad multimedia performance in 64bit ubuntu for my taste11:35
nickrudahuman01, experimental, I hardly new ye11:35
erUSULsobersabre, you said that you are going to go back to debian ;)11:35
bart_hi guys11:35
gnomefreakguest666, did you run sudo apt-get update after changing the source.list file?11:35
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nickruddarn11:35
mwedvds skippign etc11:35
sobersabreerUSUL: only on 64bit machine.11:35
Bergis there a way to delete the ubuntu partition w/o deleting XP?11:36
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erUSULsobersabre, good to know XD11:36
kameronBerg: yes11:36
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Berghow?11:36
KovecsesBerg, qparted11:36
nickrudBerg, sure11:36
Nafallomwe: what app are you using? it have always worked here with totem-xine since warty :-=11:36
Nafallo:-)11:36
guest666yes gnomefreak, but it sitll asks11:36
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Avenhey11:36
erUSULBerg, deleting the ubuntu partition only ;)11:36
guest666thee's nothing in that .list file about cdrom11:36
Bergyah11:36
Kovecsesguest666, paste you sources.list in the pastebin11:37
nickrudBerg, even windows partititioners can blow away an ubuntu partition11:37
Avenwhen people ssh, how can I change the text that it says after logging in?11:37
haasteemhi, could anybody please tell how to change the keyboard layout when using blackbox?11:37
BergI have given up on linux with this computers11:37
gnomefreakguest666, its not commented out than paste you /etc/apt/source.list file to pastebin please11:37
mesheisn't that the wrong way? shouldn't you be deleting windows?11:37
BergI still cant change the resoilution11:37
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Bergresolution11:37
meshe*grins*11:37
erUSULAven, /etc/motd11:37
guest666n.m gnomefreak, it ws the first line, i didnt see it11:37
mweNafallo: everyone I tried. I'm glad it works for you though. I hear many people complaining about various issues on the 64bit version. I'm glad it works for someone11:37
AvenerUSUL: ah thanks11:37
nickrudBerg, have you tried looking at the following yet:11:37
nickrud!fixres11:37
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto11:37
Bergyes11:37
KovecsesBerg, installl drivers ... change resolution11:37
antisepticxhaasteem you can change it using xf86config11:38
Bergfine11:38
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KovecsesBerg, what video card are you using11:38
nickrudok, then, if it's not a voodoo3, or a cheaper nvidia, I'll shut up.11:38
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IrITArgh, just can't get psybnc compiled :-/11:38
BergDUNNO11:38
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Kovecsesguest666, have you pasted?11:38
antisepticxit would be easier to do it with a text editor11:38
BergI went through this yesterday with NO success11:38
mweBerg: it's intel exreme11:38
Nafallomwe: I've never had issues I haven't managed to fix/get fixed :-)11:38
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gnomefreakKovecses, he found it11:38
Bergsee he knows11:38
Nafallobut that's just me ;-)11:39
MrPocketsUbuntu doesnt offer any easy-install or preinstalled Ipod interphase does it?11:39
mweNafallo: great for you11:39
Kovecseslol....cool11:39
Berghow do I delete a partition?11:39
gnomefreak!ipod11:39
ubotuinfo for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto11:39
MrPocketsBerg,  use Partition majic, or Fdisk11:39
mweNafallo: I think it was too much of a hassle11:39
Berg?11:39
haasteemantisepticx: ok, where can i find that program (if i installed it, that is)?11:39
gnomefreaklocate <programname>11:39
MrPocketsmagic*11:39
antisepticxyour using ubuntu right?11:39
haasteemyes11:39
Nafallomwe: well, that's what great with free software. you can do what you want with it :-).11:39
inventor_can someone help me with an ubuntu install on a compaq box w/ scsi drive? getting an error after says 'loading kernel...' that it couldn't open the cdrom?11:40
sorush20I keep getting this error when I try to add the seves gpg key to the apt directory http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/677011:40
mweNafallo: yeah11:40
ksmurfanyone have dapper installed and having issues with the gnome-panel menu?11:40
gnomefreakksmurf, sudo apt-get install menu11:40
gnomefreakit will fix it11:40
kameronBerg: fdisk is a part of DOS, you can wipe our partitions and do all sorts of things with it, if you boot to it on a floppy or cdrom. or you can use partition magic, a product from Symantec i think, and run it from windows.11:40
inventor_'unable to find group ubuntu' among other errors..11:40
antisepticxtype sudo gedit in a term11:40
Kovecsesoh what a glorious dayayay11:40
mweNafallo: I'd love to use the 64bit version. I think I'll wait a year so until it matures a bit more though11:40
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Bergwell does anyone have instructions on how to do it for free w/o software11:41
gnomefreakksmurf, i dont know why the gnome menu gets messed up after kubuntu-desktop install11:41
kameronBerg: yes, i can guide you11:41
nickrudMrPockets, if you could keep at gnomefreak about ipods ...11:41
holy_cowhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2006010701126NWEV  <-- i hope google posts this, i wanna see the robin williams parts11:41
SealyDaveerUSUL: thanks for the info on java, I got it runnning, thanks!11:41
gnomefreakre-installing menu fixes it though11:41
haasteemantispeticx: ok11:41
Nafallomwe: i.e. the lazy people at Macromedia ports flash to 64-bit? ;-)11:41
gnomefreaklol nickrud11:41
inventor_can anyone help with a scsi install?11:41
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mweNafallo: that would help11:41
erUSULSealyDave, no problem11:41
MrPocketsnickrud, hmm?11:41
mweNafallo: I'm not blaming ubuntu11:41
Nafallomwe: or hopefully the free flash-projects will do it first :-). well, that's good :-).11:42
nickrudMrPockets, it's sort of a joke, but gnomefreak has an ipod :)11:42
BergKameron I have messaged you privately11:42
haasteemantispeticx: what next?11:42
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gnomefreakMrPockets, did you read the post about ipod before?11:42
Kindredsince when was flash ever desireable.. :\11:42
ksmurfgnome freak Thanks ......11:42
kameronBerg: messages are disabled from unidentified users on FreeNode, i did not recieve it11:42
Bergoops11:42
gnomefreakksmurf, yw11:42
Bergthen join #berg11:42
MrPocketsyeah but all that shits pretty over my head11:42
NafalloKindred: agreed :-)11:42
mweNafallo: the free flash project has been around for ages. but hoping wont hurt anyone ...11:43
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antisepticxhaas you still needing help11:43
ksmurfgnome freak Thanks ...... but it didn't help....  My app menu portion is still screwed11:43
kameronBerg: just join this channel #cheese11:43
gnomefreakksmurf, restart x11:43
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haasteemantispeticx: yes please11:43
Nafallomwe: there are several if I understood correctly :-). one of them will probably succeed soon ;-)11:43
gnomefreakMrPockets, i havent looked at it yet bit giv eme a few ill try it :(11:43
IrITargh, bliver sindsyg af psybnc11:44
mweNafallo: let's cross fingers11:44
MrPocketsthank you much11:44
SealyDavesame kinda deal with flash install?11:44
IrIToops, sorry. Wrong channe11:44
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IrITchannel*11:44
antisepticxyou'll need to browse to you x configuration file11:44
haasteemantispeticx: i opened gedit as root11:44
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gnomefreakbtw can we go with perky penguin for 6.10 pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sorry forgot to ask yesterday i liked that one best :)11:44
antisepticxlocated /etc/x1111:44
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Nafallognomefreak: well. that's sabdfl to decide. but it is very unlikely :-)11:45
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IrIThttp://pastebin.com/495579 <-- when i try to compile psybnc?11:45
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madehello all11:45
mweNafallo: flash is great. I wish it was an open standard and the tools open source as well :)11:45
haasteemantispeticx: ok11:45
Nafallognomefreak: he said he will use alphabetic order, so next will probably be E something :-)11:46
gnomefreaki figured as much i was just looking through it last night and liked that one :)11:46
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Nafallomwe: I would rather see SVG come through :-).11:46
madegrub isn't able to see my ntfs hda on boot11:46
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haasteemantispeticx: xorg.conf?11:46
antisepticxyep11:46
mweNafallo: I don't know that from anything but some desktop icons :|11:46
guest666heh i cant get eggdrop to compile, stupid tcl now :I11:47
haasteemantispeticx: ok, i opened it11:47
antisepticxkeboard options should be under Input Device11:47
Kovecsesis gnome-look down?11:47
Nafallomwe: there is a demo somewhere on the web where you can play tetris :-)11:47
antisepticxfor your keyboard11:47
Psychaoscan someone help me, i can't update thunderbird on hoary from 1.0.2 to 1.0.7 because of a 'bad header line'.11:47
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mweNafallo: great11:47
Nafallomwe: it will totally be able to kill flash in the future ;-)11:48
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haasteemantispeticx: right, i found it11:48
gnomefreakgrrrrrrrrrr why do they say banshee is in deb and all they give you is tar:( but the deb is in repos :)11:48
made!ntfs11:48
uboturumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK11:48
Mabus06where do you find wine's "c" drive?11:48
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mweNafallo: I free alternative would be great. and if it's better even ...11:48
haasteemantispeticx: so there i just change to the layout i want and that's all?11:48
antisepticxwhat layout are you looking for11:49
SeveasMabus06, ~/.wine/C_drive/ iirc11:49
haasteemantispeticx: canadian french11:49
Nafallomwe: the free alternatives usually is :-)11:49
antisepticxyou'll have to save it11:49
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meshei think it's ~/.wine/drive_c/11:49
haasteemantispeticx: right, that's obvious :)11:49
aceso like...im on 5.04 ...do i have to download and install another .iso to upgrade to 5.10 or is there some other way?11:49
gnomefreakhe left :(11:49
gnomefreakoh well11:49
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erUSUL!breezy11:50
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade11:50
acethanks11:50
mweNafallo: I found the tetris svg game. when the game ended it said "GAM" lol. but I see the potetial11:50
Nafallo:-)11:50
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Kovecsesgnometris... comes with ubuntu11:51
ksmurfgnomefreak that didn't help... :( oh well.  I guess that development11:51
aceim so sexci11:51
gnomefreakksmurf, the applications part of menu is closing?11:51
mweKovecses: yeah. we were discussing svg as an alternative to flash though11:51
madenvm.. I figured it out myself.. TTYL11:51
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ksmurfgnomefreak ... more like dissappearing... stays up for less than a second11:52
gnomefreakksmurf, yes that is what fixed mine11:52
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aceholy moly there is a lot of people in here..is this the most populated linux distro channel on this server?11:52
haasteemantispeticx: so for xkblayout i just change from us to canadian french i guess?11:52
C-O-L-Twho is also interested in google earth http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction11:52
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Pygifreaky: ping11:52
ksmurfgnome-panel-control --main-menu does the same ... it appears and the dissappears right away11:52
nickrudace, who cares about most populated, this channel is about most useful11:52
Pygifreaky: I've responded on tour mail11:53
C-O-L-Twho is also interested in google earth http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction11:53
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acenickrud, dont be an asshole11:53
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gnomefreakPygi, ok ill look in a few trying to get banshee11:53
Seveasace: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct11:53
nickrudace, sorry, I'm not. But, I've been out in that space now and then.11:53
aceSeveas, i'll look at it in a minute11:53
Pygifreaky: kk11:53
aceeh?11:53
Seveasace, btw: #debian and #gentoo are bigger :)11:54
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ace:(11:54
Pygiace: btw. you can get 10000 people on a channel, but you cant get so much usefull people as here :)11:54
KovecsesSeveas, you mean bigger aholes?11:54
thestagemanagerAnyone out there think they can tackle a Calendar printing question?11:54
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acei was just wondering11:55
antisepticxone sec11:55
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acei dont care how useful it is11:55
PygiKovecses: calm down11:55
Pygiace: huh, then don't care....11:55
KovecsesPygi, what?... i didnt do anything11:55
haasteemok11:55
SeveasKovecses, no bigger channels :)11:55
KovecsesSeveas, ahh11:55
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SeveasKovecses, actually, at least for #debian your statement also holds :)11:56
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KovecsesSeveas, yeah #debian is pretty bad11:56
sobersabreguys... whoever uses ubuntu on an amd64 in 32 mode.... what do you gain except soft. compatibility with 32 apps ? isn't it a waste ?11:57
kameronace: gentoo has like 30% more people than here. but it also has like 10 times the suck.11:57
antisepticxi think ca is the layout you want11:57
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aceOKAY11:57
acejeez11:57
Seveassobersabre, you hit the point: compatibility with 32bit only proprietary crap11:57
meshelol11:57
Pygikameron: heh, maybe true... but you can't actually judge all people by 1 :P11:57
aceyou wont shut up about it11:57
Pygiace: no :)11:57
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haasteemantispeticx: let me try11:58
Seveasace, relax dude, it's saturday night :)11:58
kameronPygi: i don't actually know anyone who uses gentoo, or is in that channel. i was just being silly.11:58
Kovecseskameron, 10 times the suck?11:58
Seveasgrab a beer or something :)11:58
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kameronKovecses: i don't know, nevermind :P11:58
Kovecsesgentoo is great11:58
Pygikameron: yes, I understood that :P11:58
haasteemantispeticx: so i saved it and then i guess i do a restart?11:58
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PygiSeveas, can I ask you for a little favor pls?11:58
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SeveasPygi, that depends on the favor11:58
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Pygiwell, you would need to comment on one thingy11:59
PygiI need it for the app I am building11:59
antisepticxyep give it a shot11:59
SeveasPygi, -> #ubuntu-offtopic or private chat then :)11:59
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Pygiyes,I'll send you a pm11:59
Kovecsesi was on gentoo today... then after watching dvdrip compile for about and hour.. and still wasnt done.. i needed a change11:59
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