[12:00] <Motoko-chan> I don't know how to do two entries with grub. I'm more used to lilo.
[12:00] <_max_> free~lowman62: can't sissy people ;) sometimes you gotta play hardball to get em to read.
[12:00] <Motoko-chan> rjb, you can try checking the wiki.
[12:00] <Motoko-chan> Probably one piece of hardware is causing issues.
[12:00] <lowman62> anyways tis friday...i am outta here...later room and even those that are Sdorks...flush laterz
[12:00] <btaylor5619> Can someone indulge me with the answer to a question?
[12:00] <rjb> Motoko-chan, did that but no answer found
[12:00] <_max_> lowman62: and yeah ubuntu's a huge step for linux in the comercial world :) lovin in on desktops ;)
[12:00] <Motoko-chan> rjb, sorry, I don't know then. Maybe someone else does.
[12:00] <_max_> s/in/it
[12:01] <Andrew[CS] > PUMPERNICKLE
[12:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : Yes?
[12:01] <Andrew[CS] > PM
[12:01] <dawid> can sum1 help me with wine?
[12:01] <Storkme> #winehq
[12:01] <_max_> free~dawid: ask the question and people who know the answer will answer.
[12:02] <btaylor5619> Is there any way to defragment my Ubuntu hard drive?
[12:02] <mwe> maybe ubuntu is for people that can't read but that means they can't do irc either :)
[12:02] <dawid> okay i get this error where the programs actually run but when they try and grab their current directory its incorrect.. like a file in C:\Games\SC would say its in C:\Windows and if i change the
[12:02] <Motoko-chan> btaylor5619, you usually don't need to defrag on Linux.
[12:02] <Telemachus> btaylor5619: it does not need defragmenting
[12:02] <yggdrasil> mwe what do you think ?
[12:02] <dawid> setup using winetools the directory it claims to be in changes, however its static no-matter where the file really is
[12:02] <btaylor5619> i see
[12:02] <mwe> yggdrasil: you didn't post a link
[12:03] <yggdrasil> blah
[12:03] <yggdrasil> haha
[12:03] <Telemachus> btaylor5619: it is not a fat or ntfs filesystem so works diffrently
[12:03] <yggdrasil> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6700
[12:03] <yggdrasil> how dat
[12:03] <kemik> dawid:  is winetools used in the wine-version that comes with breezy? think it's 'winecfg' now
[12:03] <Storkme> ok, so i've booted up from the live cd. how do i partition now
[12:03] <yggdrasil> cfdisk ?
[12:03] <polpak> Storkme, gparted
[12:03] <bueller> pumpernickel you are royalty
[12:03] <dawid> yes it is, winecfg is part of winetools (or is called from wine tools)
[12:03] <Storkme> polpak, i'm an uber noob to this. i don't understand how to work gparted
[12:03] <polpak> Storkme, but it may not work right. I had issues with the breezy live cd
[12:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: :D
[12:03] <mwe> yggdrasil: it's messed. I'll clean it and post the link
[12:04] <bueller> 1024 looks letterbox
[12:04] <yggdrasil> cfthanks
[12:04] <myke> can someone help me with a firewire mount
[12:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: Letterbox? O_o
[12:04] <bueller> but 800-600 looks ok
[12:04] <yggdrasil> i dont know how it got so screwd up
[12:04] <myke> i plug it in and it isnt working
[12:04] <dawid> here is error giving when using winetools to install : err:exec:SHELL_ExecuteW cannot set directory L"c:\\windows\\system32\\shell32.dll"
[12:04] <yggdrasil> i just wasnt paying attention
[12:04] <bueller> think widescreen dvd
[12:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ah
[12:04] <mwe> yggdrasil: please back it up next time you edit it
[12:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cool
[12:04] <myke> what is the list cmd for ieee1394?
[12:04] <bueller> speaking of dvd
[12:04] <bueller> lol
[12:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ^^
[12:04] <IdleOne> why d i get an error when i try to install fakeroot?
[12:05] <Storkme> polpak, what i did, is resize the old partition, then create a new one with the unallocated space. is that right?
[12:05] <polpak> Storkme, correct
[12:05] <Storkme> oh good
[12:05] <polpak> Storkme, or create 3 with the unallocated space
[12:05] <Storkme> i don't think it's working though
[12:05] <mwe> yggdrasil: you want back-ports, universe and multiverse?
[12:05] <polpak> Storkme, which is what I prefer
[12:05] <bueller> isplaying mp3 and dvd a nightmare
[12:05] <Storkme> polpak, why?
[12:05] <yggdrasil> mwe yea
[12:05] <yggdrasil> like everything
[12:05] <Storkme> polpak, how long should it take?
[12:05] <polpak> Storkme, Well it's generall a good idea to have 1 partition for swap
[12:05] <polpak> Storkme, a while
[12:05] <dawid> mm guess no1?
[12:05] <Storkme> oh ok
[12:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bueller: Shouldn't be.
[12:06] <kemik> dawid:  do you use the latest wine? i think it's supposed to use 'winecfg' and not winetools
[12:06] <polpak> Storkme, and I like to have /home on a different partition than /
[12:06] <Storkme> polpak, fair enough
[12:06] <IdleOne> how do I install java-package and fakeroot?
[12:06] <polpak> Storkme, so I can reinstall or upgrade more easily
[12:06] <myke> anyone use firewire drives?>
[12:06] <Storkme> polpak, i'm a linux noob so i don't think it'll matter much. is data loss likely?
[12:06] <polpak> ubotu, tell IdleOne about java
[12:06] <_max_> Storkme : cfdisk is reaaally easy to use. just cfdisk /dev/yourdevice
[12:06] <dawid> no but winetools has a section to launch winecfg so i beleive it is supperior.. but i will call it indirectly then
[12:06] <Berg> I need help
[12:06] <bueller> well ubuntu doesnt recognize my cdrw/dvd player as such
[12:06] <polpak> Storkme, not terribly likely no.
[12:07] <_max_> free~Berg: dont ask for help, ask the question :)
[12:07] <dawid> kemik : Im sure im using the latest wine i installed ubuntu yesterday
[12:07] <yggdrasil> can ubuntu make me more popular with the ladies ?
[12:07] <Storkme> polpak, by the way i decided to install ubuntu 32-bit so it'll be easier to install quake4 (i'm dying to play that game)
[12:07] <bueller> and mp3's say missing plugin
[12:07] <mwe> yggdrasil: now promise to back it up first if you wanna mess with it again. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6701
[12:07] <Andrew[CS] > cant  u  read  this  ???
[12:07] <yggdrasil> yes sir
[12:07] <polpak> Storkme, and you can always resize your linux install afterwards
[12:07] <dawid> yggdrasil : It may have the opposite effect
[12:07] <Berg> I just installed ubuntu and my resolution is 640x whatever and I want to make it bigger but it wont let me
[12:07] <dawid> yggdrasil : However KDE with its transparent windows might
[12:07] <kemik> Andrew[CS] : yes we can
[12:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !nonfree
[12:07] <ubotu> PuMpErNiCkLe: I give up, what is it?
[12:07] <yggdrasil> haha
[12:07] <crimsun> !tell Berg about fixres
[12:07] <_max_> Berg: you probably dont have the graphics drivers installed.
[12:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hmm
[12:07] <yggdrasil> im using enlightenment
[12:07] <IdleOne> polpak,  did that but when i enter in sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common i get error E: Couldn't find package java-package
[12:07] <Berg> how can I do that? it wont load any of my CD's
[12:08] <Storkme> IdleOne, you need to install universe and multiverse
[12:08] <polpak> IdleOne, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[12:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I must have forgotten the right syntax.
[12:08] <Berg> 5.02
[12:08] <Andrew[CS] > caz i dont pumpernickel can
[12:08] <Berg> but I ordered 10.2
[12:08] <crimsun> Berg: I just had a link sent to you. Read it.
[12:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : What can I do?
[12:08] <Berg> oops
[12:08] <myke> can someone help me with a firewire drive?
[12:08] <Berg> I closed it
[12:08] <Berg> :(
[12:08] <IdleOne> 5.10 and universe and multiverse are enabled
[12:08] <C-O-L-T> topyli: I don't know what happened but now works Rythmbox yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:08] <Andrew[CS] > read my pms??
[12:08] <Storkme> IdleOne, no, they aren't
[12:08] <Andrew[CS] > pm's*
[12:08] <crimsun> Berg: ask ubotu about fixres
[12:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : Getting nothing, sorry...
[12:09] <Storkme> IdleOne, oh sorry i misread. ignore that
[12:09] <Andrew[CS] > oh, thats gay
[12:09] <Berg> can you send the link again?
[12:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> indeed
[12:09] <IdleOne> Storkme,  np
[12:09] <topyli> C-O-L-T: \o/
[12:09] <polpak> !info java-package
[12:09] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[12:09] <Andrew[CS] > Andrew[CS]  I can only get 800 by 600 res :(
[12:09] <Andrew[CS] > Andrew[CS]  could u help me?
[12:09] <C-O-L-T> topyli: thanks for help
[12:09] <dawid> what cool apps would u guys suggest?
[12:09] <polpak> IdleOne, If you have multiverse enabled you should find it
[12:10] <Berg> where can I enable multiuniverse?
[12:10] <mwe> dawid: for what?
[12:10] <IdleOne> hmmm let me check again
[12:10] <polpak> IdleOne, you've done apt-get update
[12:10] <topyli> C-O-L-T: no problem, for what it was worth :)
[12:10] <myke> anyone here use firewire drives
[12:10] <dawid> dunno, something interesting..
[12:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : sure, put your xorg.conf in the pastebin and I'll see what I can do. :)
[12:10] <IdleOne> polpak,  no I havent
[12:10] <crimsun> !tell Berg about repos
[12:10] <mwe> dawid: quake4
[12:10] <C-O-L-T> topyli: thanks and have a good night
[12:10] <Andrew[CS] > Andrew[CS]  and is "sudo apt-get install 'filename.deb' " how to installl a .deb?
[12:10] <dawid> where
[12:10] <polpak> IdleOne, you need to do apt-get update when you change your repos
[12:10] <kameron> Motoko-Chan would it be best just to install x86 ubuntu on this system, so i don't have to hassle with video support, etc?
[12:10] <dawid> CAN IT BE DONE???
[12:10] <_max_> !tell Andrew[CS]  about fixres
[12:10] <bueller> I am in love with ubuntu
[12:10] <polpak> IdleOne, with sudo obviously
[12:10] <mwe> dawid: what?
[12:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : nope, it's 'sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'
[12:10] <myke> can someone help me please
[12:10] <polpak> dawid, ?
[12:10] <Motoko-chan> kameron, might be for now.
[12:10] <_max_> gah.. does the bot pm me aswell everytime i !tell someone ;p
[12:11] <_max_> bleh.
[12:11] <Motoko-chan> If you need win32 codecs, yes.
[12:11] <myke> when i connect it to the system it doesent detect it
[12:11] <mwe> _max_: yeah it sucks
[12:11] <IdleOne> polpak,  apt- get update is done
[12:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : Or 'sudo apt-get install filename'
[12:11] <kameron> Motoko-Chan anything in the works to get more amd64 repositories going on?
[12:11] <polpak> IdleOne, ok, now try
[12:11] <Andrew[CS] > umm ok?
[12:11] <crimsun> myke: did you search the forum for hints?
[12:11] <bueller> is it possible to take in cat5 then adhoc a wap from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it
[12:11] <_max_> free~myke: define "detect"
[12:11] <Motoko-chan> That isn't the problem.
[12:11] <kemik> just keep the ubotu pmdialog open ;)
[12:11] <dawid> quake 4 and doom 3? on linux?
[12:11] <IdleOne> couldnt find java-package
[12:11] <polpak> dawid, sure
[12:11] <mwe> dawid: yeah
[12:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : One is if you downloaded teh .deb file, the other is if you want to get it from the repository and have it installed automatically.
[12:11] <Motoko-chan> The problem is that no one has gotten all the 64-bit codecs packaged up.
[12:12] <_max_> free~dawid: ID have native support for linux <3
[12:12] <Motoko-chan> Or that they even exist.
[12:12] <myke> when i plug a usb drive in it auto mounts it and puts a link on the desktop
[12:12] <mwe> dawid: most id games work in linux
[12:12] <dawid> how, no emu?
[12:12] <polpak> IdleOne, ok, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[12:12] <Andrew[CS] > ok ty
[12:12] <mwe> dawid: no native
[12:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : np :)
[12:12] <Andrew[CS] > sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'
[12:12] <mwe> dawid: google icculus
[12:12] <Storkme> polpak, i had an error resizing the first partition :|
[12:12] <dawid> ah so where can i get this version of q4?
[12:12] <myke> but i dont know the command to see if the system even sees the firewire drivwe
[12:12] <mwe> dawid: google icculus
[12:12] <rjb> VLC player is pretty good at multimedia codecs
[12:12] <myke> yes i searched the forum
[12:12] <paladinew> what us the best program to manage my finances ???
[12:12] <polpak> Storkme, yeah. I have had that issue with the breezy live cd also
[12:12] <mwe> dawid: you know how to do that, right?
[12:12] <_max_> dawid : of your quake4 cd.. theres docu on the net on how to install it.
[12:12] <rjb> it grokked every .avi i threw at it
[12:13] <polpak> Storkme, I eventually had to use Knoppix to resize my windows partition
[12:13] <myke> anyone
[12:13] <bueller> is it possible to take in cat5 then adhoc a wap from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it
[12:13] <Storkme> polpak, what should i do then?
[12:13] <butcherbird> myke: what was problem?
[12:13] <polpak> Storkme, but I think the breezy install disk will also let you resize
[12:13] <polpak> Storkme, and that seems to work ok
[12:13] <mwe> works great
[12:13] <dawid> okay cool
[12:13] <myke> i cant get my external firewire to work
[12:13] <_max_> myke : check dmesg if it tells you some usefull info, never used a firewire drive, id assume if you have no s-ata drive it would be /dev/sda
[12:13] <Storkme> oh ok, it's just, last time i tried that i messed up my hdd
[12:13] <polpak> Storkme, well
[12:14] <paladinew> Doesn anyone know what the best free application similar to Quicken would be for ubuntu ?
[12:14] <Berg> hey...well can anyone just join #helpberg to help me
[12:14] <polpak> Storkme, if you're concerned, get the knoppix CD and use that to resize your ntfs partition
[12:14] <mwe> Berg: what's wrong with this room?
[12:14] <bueller> is it possible to take in cat5 then adhoc a wap from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it
[12:14] <Storkme> polpak, what's a noppix cd?
[12:14] <mwe> Berg: then ask here
[12:14] <myke> i dont see anything in dmesg
[12:14] <kameron> Motoko-Chan dang. anything i can do to help the process?
[12:14] <Berg> ok
[12:14] <polpak> !knoppix
[12:14] <ubotu> polpak: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:14] <polpak> oh
[12:14] <polpak> hrm
[12:14] <bueller> is it possible to take in cat5 at this pc then adhoc a wap  from ubuntu( i want my laptop to get internet from it
[12:14] <polpak> one sec
[12:15] <mwe> Berg: maybe someone else could benefit
[12:15] <polpak> Storkme, it's like a live CD
[12:15] <Storkme> polpak, bah, cd's are not my forte
[12:15] <Motoko-chan> kameron, bug the mplayer people. They maintain win32codecs
[12:15] <Andrew[CS] > how do i link to it if its on desktop
[12:15] <polpak> Storkme, but it's a different distro. It's not very good. But the partition editor works
[12:15] <dawid> im sorry but at http://icculus.org/projects/ i can find only a quake 3 project
[12:15] <butcherbird> myke: try maybe ls -t /dev | head and try to mount the /dev/whatever it responds with
[12:15] <Telemachus> paladinew: gnucash?
[12:15] <Cpt_Vimes> N00bQuestion: Is there a good (text)file-differ included in Ubuntu?
[12:15] <mwe> dawid: yes
[12:16] <yggdrasil> mwe so is this bunk ?
[12:16] <yggdrasil> http://www.soulmachine.net/wiki/index.php?title=Enlightenment_on_Ubuntu_5.10_(Breezy_Badger)
[12:16] <kameron> Motoko-Chan will do
[12:16] <bueller> i have two netcards one cat5 one wireless....cat5 is primary...i'd like to make it an ad-hoc wap
[12:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : Link to what?
[12:16] <Dreamglider> why wont this mount my iso files ? -> http://pastebin.com/494171
[12:16] <Andrew[CS] > like, the path name
[12:16] <rjb> hmm where is the info about howto run flashplayer under amd64? i'm sure i've seen it somewhere but can't find it now
[12:16] <paladinew> telemachus: thank you, now how do I install it?  I've tried adding it and also doing apt-get, but doesnt work
[12:16] <Berg> alright...my resolution is so large that I can almost not do anything and to make it bigger I need to install the driver. BUT when I try to open the .exe files on the CD's I use to intall the drivers it wont let me...now you tell me to activate something and I get some links which I cant read because of the resolution so can anyone give me a step by step guide on how to get theese .exe files going
[12:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : ~/Desktop/filename
[12:16] <Andrew[CS] > ok thx
[12:16] <dawid> mwe : so how do install quake 4 then if theres only a quake 3
[12:16] <mwe> dawid: here's a link to quake4 for linux: http://www.google.com/search?q=quake4+linux
[12:16] <yggdrasil> man this # moves fast
[12:16] <myke> butcherbird what do u mean?
[12:16] <myke> i did that and didnt get a dev
[12:17] <Telemachus> paladinew: should be able to : sudo apt-get install gnucash
[12:17] <polpak> Storkme, http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V4.0.2CD-2005-09-23-EN.iso
[12:17] <paddygman> hey all was tryin to install jre java and got an error back "E: libapache-mod-tsunami: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[12:17] <paddygman> anyone any help??
[12:17] <Andrew[CS] > still not working
[12:17] <polpak> Storkme, just download that and burn it to CD like you did the Breezy ISO then reboot
[12:17] <Berg> what do I do?
[12:17] <bueller> hey what was the syntaxt for replacing the xorg conf file....for my notes
[12:18] <Andrew[CS] > sais cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[12:18] <polpak> Storkme, I dunno why the Breezy Live CD doesn't work for resizing, but I've tried it on 3 different machines, and no luck
[12:18] <Berg> what do I do to get .exe fiels rnning?
[12:18] <butcherbird> myke: is this a external hard drive?
[12:18] <paddygman> hey all was tryin to install jre java and got an error back "E: libapache-mod-tsunami: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[12:18] <paddygman> anyone any help??
[12:18] <Storkme> polpak, that's a shame. although for a note, i suck at burning cd's, which is why i had them mailed to me :p
[12:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : What exactly are you trying to do, and what command are you using?
[12:19] <myke> butcherbird yes it is a IEEE1394 drive
[12:19] <phos-phoros> Berg, use wine
[12:19] <polpak> Storkme, oh
[12:19] <mwe> Berg: you can't run exe files in linux. wine will however run a few
[12:19] <polpak> Storkme, you just need the right app
[12:19] <Andrew[CS] > im trying to install the new version of amsn
[12:19] <polpak> Storkme,  for windows yes?
[12:19] <butcherbird> myke: been using it in windows or on a mac?
[12:19] <Andrew[CS] > im using the "terminal"
[12:19] <myke> it worked on dows
[12:19] <Berg> so how do I intall my drivers if I cant run the .exe files that open the,
[12:19] <Berg> *them
[12:20] <mwe> Berg: you can't install windows drivers in linux
[12:20] <Andrew[CS] > sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb'
[12:20] <Andrew[CS] > uh
[12:20] <Berg> then am I screwed?
[12:20] <phos-phoros> you need to download the non .exe drivers, such as tar.gz, .deb, etc
[12:20] <Andrew[CS] > user@Andrew-ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i ~/desktop/amsn_0.95-1.deb
[12:20] <Andrew[CS] >      **
[12:20] <mwe> Berg: no you install linux drivers instead
[12:20] <Berg> where can I do that?
[12:20] <Storkme> polpak, i'm too poor for windows
[12:20] <Telemachus> Berg: what are you trying to install
[12:20] <butcherbird> myke: the 'ls -t /dev | head' i would think would respond with an sda or sdb like sdb1 if device is pugged in
[12:20] <Berg> my graphics driver
[12:20] <polpak> Storkme, ok, well what OS do you have
[12:20] <phos-phoros> Berg, more than likely the same site where you downloaded the .exes
[12:20] <Berg> and everything else
[12:20] <mwe> Berg: what card
[12:20] <polpak> Storkme, that works
[12:21] <phos-phoros> fromthe manufacturer's website
[12:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : I think it's 'Desktop' and case-sensitive, so try replacing it with a capital 'D'
[12:21] <Storkme> polpak, ubuntu 64-bit, i have 32-bit though
[12:21] <mwe> Berg: everything else? so nothing works?
[12:21] <Motoko-chan> kameron, one other thing on win32codecs.
[12:21] <Andrew[CS] > k
[12:21] <kameron> Motoko-Chan yes
[12:21] <jahshua--> hey is there a commad for me to check what keyboard setup im using?
[12:21] <dawid> lovely... Warcraft III Is running in wine
[12:21] <mwe> Berg: how can you type anything if nothing works?
[12:21] <Berg> well I did not download them I got them on a CD
[12:21] <Motoko-chan> At the very least, it seems mplayer uses some wine code to hook the codecs.
[12:21] <polpak> Storkme, are you currently in ubuntu?
[12:21] <jahshua--> ie..us/international.british etc
[12:21] <Motoko-chan> And wine is 32-bit only too.
[12:21] <julio_> hi mans
[12:21] <jahshua--> i think its british
[12:21] <polpak> Storkme, and not on a live CD?
[12:21] <julio_> i have one webcam
[12:21] <Andrew[CS] > uh
[12:21] <Andrew[CS] > yes, thats it
[12:21] <Andrew[CS] > thank you
[12:21] <mwe> Berg: the installer takes care of installing most drivers for you
[12:21] <julio_> how can i config it?
[12:21] <Motoko-chan> So even updating to 64-bit codec files might not work.
[12:21] <Storkme> polpak, no, but i'm going to fuck 64-bit and reformat and install 32bit
[12:21] <mwe> Berg: then for 3d you need another driver
[12:21] <phos-phoros> ha ha
[12:22] <julio_> hi people
[12:22] <Berg> I dont have a card
[12:22] <julio_> who can help-me?
[12:22] <kameron> Storkme: i'm about to do the same thing
[12:22] <polpak> Storkme, ok.. So to clarify. There isn't anything on your disk that you need
[12:22] <yggdrasil> anyon ehere have e17 running ?
[12:22] <Berg> I just need to intall my grpahics driver
[12:22] <kameron> Motoko-chan shiatttt. alright. reinstall.
[12:22] <Motoko-chan> julio_, just ask your question
[12:22] <phos-phoros> so Ubuntu x64 is buggy as all get out, or what?
[12:22] <Motoko-chan> kameron, hehe
[12:22] <Storkme> polpak, besides my settings, not really
[12:22] <julio_> i have one webcam, how can i config it?
[12:22] <mwe> Berg: so you do have other drivers installed? I guess or you couldn't boot
[12:22] <Motoko-chan> This is what happens with closed source.
[12:22] <Telemachus> jahshua--: top toolbar> System> preferences> keyboard> Layout tab
[12:22] <mwe> Berg: what card
[12:22] <polpak> phos-phoros, there are issues with some drivers and certain apps
[12:22] <Berg> I do
[12:22] <mwe> Berg: what card
[12:22] <mwe> Berg: what card
[12:22] <Berg> IDK
[12:22] <Berg> !
[12:22] <ubotu> Berg: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:22] <Motoko-chan> Can't even support Indeo2 in Windows anymore.
[12:22] <Motoko-chan> (16-bit codec)
[12:22] <myke> myke@ubuntu:~$ ls -t /dev | head
[12:22] <myke> ptmx
[12:22] <myke> xconsole
[12:22] <myke> tty
[12:22] <myke> log
[12:22] <myke> tty6
[12:22] <Berg> how?
[12:23] <myke> tty4
[12:23] <jahshua--> Telemachus: thanks
[12:23] <julio_> How can i config my webcam???????
[12:23] <myke> tty1
[12:23] <Berg> I got it from DELL
[12:23] <myke> tty2
[12:23] <myke> tty3
[12:23] <myke> tty5
[12:23] <myke> myke@ubuntu:~$
[12:23] <Berg> where can I find the name of it
[12:23] <polpak> Storkme, well if you are planning to reformat anyway. Just boot off the install cd, and use the installation process to partition and format your drive
[12:23] <Berg> it takes awhile to get used to ubuntu
[12:23] <Darky469> lo
[12:23] <Andrew[CS] > guhhh
[12:23] <mwe> Berg: yeah
[12:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : ?
[12:23] <julio_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! xD How can i config my webcam?
[12:23] <sedeki> julio_ what webcam do you have?
[12:23] <Berg> so where can I find the name of the driver from my computer
[12:23] <Andrew[CS] > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amsn:
[12:23] <Andrew[CS] >  amsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:
[12:23] <Andrew[CS] >   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.
[12:23] <julio_> hm.. wait moment
[12:23] <Darky469> anyone  knows  how  to get  the realplayer 10 working ?
[12:24] <mwe> Berg: you need to find the name of your hardware not the name of the drivers
[12:24] <julio_> Yoyo webcam.. HEDY
[12:24] <Berg> well can I do that from my computer?
[12:24] <paddygman> hey all was tryin to install jre java and got an error back "E: libapache-mod-tsunami: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[12:24] <mwe> Berg: is it booted into ubuntu or what?
[12:24] <paddygman> anyone any help??
[12:24] <Andrew[CS] > can i go into the package manager thing and find something there?
[12:24] <Berg> and by that you mean?
[12:24] <julio_> sedeki
[12:24] <julio_> YOYO WEBCAM... HEDY
[12:25] <julio_> sedeki: YOYO WEBCAM... HEDY
[12:25] <Andrew[CS] > !libstdc++6
[12:25] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Andrew[CS] 
[12:25] <navarone> Berg are you running ubuntu as we speak or are you currently using windows?
[12:25] <Storkme> Chuck Norris is not hung like a horse... horses are hung like Chuck Norris
[12:25] <polpak> paddygman, looks like you tried removing something and the removal didn't go quite right
[12:25] <mwe> Berg: is ubuntu running on the machine now?
[12:25] <kameron> how much of a performance loss is there in running x86 instead of amd64 on an amd64 system? i don't really care, just wondering, any kind of ballpark figure out there?
[12:25] <Andrew[CS] > oh...
[12:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : yes, but that's the latest that's in the repository for breezy
[12:25] <Berg> I am using ubuntu
[12:25] <Telemachus> Berg: open a terminal and type -  lspci
[12:25] <Berg> where can I open a terminal?
[12:25] <paddygman> y/msg polpak have had it on before
[12:25] <Andrew[CS] > so, no amsn 0.95 for me yet ? :(
[12:26] <poningru> Berg: applications->accessories
[12:26] <navarone> Berg> Applications/Accessories/Terminal in top menu on desktop
[12:26] <pa_l> is it possible to get shockwave on linux ubuntu breezy or one of the browsers
[12:26] <polpak> paddygman, try sudo apt-get clean
[12:26] <julio_> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! xD How can i config my webcam?
[12:26] <Berg> then what?
[12:26] <Telemachus> Berg: top menubar > Applications> System Tools> Terminal
[12:26] <Berg> yeah
[12:26] <poningru> pa_l: no
[12:26] <Berg> then what?
[12:26] <Andrew[CS] > julio
[12:26] <mwe> Berg: then type lspci on the prompt and look for you video card
[12:26] <julio_> hi
[12:26] <Berg> ok
[12:26] <pa_l> omg
[12:26] <Andrew[CS] > hi
[12:26] <navarone> Berg then type lspci and enter
[12:26] <mwe> I told him
[12:26] <julio_> how can i config my webcam?
[12:27] <sedeki> julio_ did you check the manufacturers homepage?
[12:27] <sedeki> for drivers?
[12:27] <navarone> mwe you are too quick...<s>
[12:27] <mwe> navarone: however you go ahead and help him
[12:27] <Telemachus> Berg: look for VGA controller
[12:27] <julio_> yes.. but there dont have =/
[12:27] <Berg> alright...my resolution is so large that I can almost not do anything and to make it bigger I need to install the driver. BUT when I try to open the .exe files on the CD's I use to intall the drivers it wont let me...now you tell me to activate something and I get some links which I cant read because of the resolution so can anyone give me a step by step guide on how to get theese .exe files going
[12:27] <Andrew[CS] > uh... now i cant even run the old version
[12:27] <Berg> oops
[12:27] <AndyR> lo all
[12:27] <Berg> ok
[12:27] <Darky469> does  anyone  knows  how  to get  realplayer 10  working on unbuntu
[12:27] <polpak> !realplayer
[12:27] <ubotu> I heard realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:28] <Motoko-chan> Berg, .exe is a windows executable.
[12:28] <Motoko-chan> Not Linux.
[12:28] <mwe> navarone: I don't know if he needs 3d or what since he wants to install a driver for the video card. dont know if his card supports 3d
[12:28] <bueller> going through steps to install unfree formats got error in pastebin
[12:28] <Berg> I know that now
[12:28] <yggdrasil> darky i wann know that too
[12:28] <yggdrasil> !realplayer
[12:28] <ubotu> from memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:28] <mwe> navarone: have him fix xorg.conf instead
[12:28] <kcantin> I had to step away for a sec
[12:28] <Motoko-chan> Do you know what card you have?
[12:28] <Motoko-chan> Brand-wise?
[12:28] <Berg> this is what I found
[12:28] <sedeki> julio_ try the philips module
[12:28] <Berg> Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:28] <julio_> ??
[12:28] <poningru> bueller: link to the pastebin?
[12:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-4.0/ has a later version of the missing library, but I gotta warn you - mixing different distributions' libraries can cause massive pains later on
[12:29] <julio_> !tell julio about webcam
[12:29] <kcantin> I have 2 questions....first, can anyone please help me connect to my windows network?
[12:29] <mwe> Berg: yeah that's the sound card
[12:29] <Darky469> i did  everything  it says  at  realplayer site
[12:29] <sedeki> julio_ It's called 'pwc'
[12:29] <Berg> :(
[12:29] <Motoko-chan> That is the audio card.
[12:29] <Darky469> but  it diden't work
[12:29] <bueller> i have it in pastebin
[12:29] <mwe> Berg: the audio you know
[12:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Andrew[CS] : So if you really want the new version of amsn, you can try the .deb from the link, but I don't recommend it very much. :)
[12:29] <Berg> found it
[12:29] <bueller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6702
[12:29] <Berg> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[12:29] <kcantin> Linux rOcKs but, I jus can't seem to get this accomplished
[12:29] <Motoko-chan> Intel Integrated.
[12:29] <mwe> Berg: that's good but does it do accelerated 3d?
[12:30] <Berg> maybe?
[12:30] <Telemachus> i810
[12:30] <Berg> it can do 3D
[12:30] <crimsun> not reasonably
[12:30] <sedeki> julio_ type 'sudo -c "modprobe pwc" '
[12:30] <Andrew[CS] > ok... what kinda stuff will it do later on?
[12:30] <Berg> it worked with XP
[12:30] <Motoko-chan> It is Intel Extreme.
[12:30] <kcantin> I get an error that I do not have permissions to access the windows network
[12:30] <Motoko-chan> Should do 3D.
[12:30] <crimsun> "extreme"ly slowly.
[12:30] <poningru> bueller: did you enable multiverse?
[12:30] <Berg> well no
[12:30] <Telemachus> Berg: its fine for running ubuntu
[12:30] <navarone> Berg...it would help if you could find your xorg.conf file and copy and paste it to pastebin so we can see what we are working with in config
[12:30] <Berg> k
[12:30] <Andrew[CS] > plus can i tell this to cut, copy and paste with the windows commands (x,c,v)
[12:30] <polpak> Darky469, you don't have to go to realplayers site
[12:30] <Berg> where it that
[12:30] <polpak> Darky469, just read the wiki
[12:30] <mwe> Berg: you wanna fix your resolution problem first
[12:30] <bueller> the wiki said my syntaxt was alternative to multi install
[12:31] <Motoko-chan> The video driver should be i810
[12:31] <Darky469> oke  will try that
[12:31] <Berg> right
[12:31] <Andrew[CS] > !keyboard commands
[12:31] <ubotu> Andrew[CS] : Are you on ritalin?
[12:31] <Andrew[CS] > ?
[12:31] <navarone> Berg...it is in folder /etc/X11
[12:31] <Darky469>  thx  polpak
[12:31] <Andrew[CS] > !hotkeys
[12:31] <ubotu> Andrew[CS] : I don't know
[12:31] <Motoko-chan> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <poningru> bueller: I would use synaptic if you are uncomfortable with command line
[12:31] <Andrew[CS] > oh
[12:31] <poningru> bueller: what page in the wiki?
[12:31] <kcantin> Other questions is.....can I connect to ubuntu with using RDT or Terminal services?
[12:31] <bueller> i prefer command line, being a newb i figure it is the best way to get grounded in gnu/linux
[12:31] <Berg> can I maybe first get a link to the thing that intalls my driver?
[12:31] <Motoko-chan> kcantin, System / Preferences / Remote Desktop
[12:32] <bueller> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:32] <Motoko-chan> Berg, video driver is installed already.
[12:32] <navarone> Berg...you may just need to edit config file to properly recognize the video chips capabilities
[12:32] <poningru> bueller: ok did you enable multiverse in sources.list?
[12:32] <mwe> Berg: fix the resolution first is my advice. then try to get 3d accel working
[12:32] <bueller> im attempting to enable mp3 and dvd playback
[12:32] <Telemachus> Berg: the driver is already there, it just needs to be configured to use it
[12:32] <jahshua--> ok
[12:32] <jahshua--> time to boot into slackware :)
[12:32] <jahshua--> enough of this i say!
[12:32] <bueller> ponigru nope
[12:32] <Berg> how can I configure it?
[12:32] <polpak> bueller, yeah, but it's nice to have a pretty background while you hack on the command line.. That's what GUI's are for.. =)
[12:32] <Motoko-chan> jahshua--, indeed
[12:32] <mwe> !fixres
[12:32] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:32] <Berg> me?
[12:32] <bueller> how do i reply to a user in with redtext
[12:32] <Andrew[CS] > how do i find out all the specks of the machine without tearing it apart, like the graphics and stuff
[12:33] <polpak> Andrew[CS] , lspci
[12:33] <bueller> gui's can be so sticky though
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> Andrew[CS] , lspci, lsusb
[12:33] <Andrew[CS] > "!fixres" doesn't help me
[12:33] <julio_> how can i go to my foder /etc/apt/ with the KDE?
[12:33] <bueller> kinda gooey
[12:33] <butcherbird> Berg: if i understand video and res is fine just 3d accel problem?
[12:33] <mwe> Berg: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the console
[12:33] <Andrew[CS] > and neither does "lspci"
[12:33] <poningru> !tell bueller about multiverse
[12:33] <mwe> butcherbird: no
[12:33] <julio_> julio_ how can i go to my foder /etc/apt/ with the KDE?
[12:33] <Andrew[CS] > do i type that in command?
[12:33] <Motoko-chan> bueller, keep them away from water and you should be fine. No melting.
[12:33] <butcherbird> well nm them :)
[12:33] <mwe> butcherbird: his resolution is screwed
[12:33] <polpak> Andrew[CS] , yes
[12:33] <Andrew[CS] > ok
[12:33] <bueller> hahaha
[12:33] <jahshua--> Motoko-cha: you gonna do it wirh me? :)
[12:34] <Berg> where is the console? the terminal?
[12:34] <Andrew[CS] > thanks
[12:34] <polpak> Berg, terminal will work
[12:34] <mwe> butcherbird: and he has an intel exreme card
[12:34] <Telemachus> can he not just dpkg-reconfigure <xfree package name>
[12:34] <Motoko-chan> jahshua--, already done on 8 servers and two workstatoins
[12:34] <mwe> Berg: right
[12:34] <crimsun> xserver-xorg
[12:34] <Motoko-chan> Berg, Applications / Accessories / Terminal
[12:34] <jahshua--> Motoko-cha: nice :D its my first time !
[12:34] <Motoko-chan> jahshua--, on Slack?
[12:34] <jahshua--> yep
[12:34] <Berg> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[12:34] <jahshua--> im about to b00t
[12:34] <Motoko-chan> Ah.
[12:34] <Motoko-chan> Been on it since 9.2 or so
[12:35] <jahshua--> awesome
[12:35] <ves> Hi folks, is there anyway to check what version a package is in apt before installing it?
[12:35] <Berg> this is what I got: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[12:35] <foxiness> i have this error with apt-get "http://to/path/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)" after the line -connection- disconnection wheel the apt-get download this file,and i do some search with google but i can not find solve for this problem and i can download it by wget,how can help me around this, please?
[12:35] <foxiness> hi
[12:35] <julio_> !tell julio about webcam
[12:35] <msg43> Hi
[12:35] <mwe> Berg: yeah as I said type sudo in front of the command
[12:35] <beau> hey, how would i go about installing a virtual machine program so I can run windows XP on my ubuntu system as well?
[12:35] <msg43> How can I get the kernel tree?
[12:35] <Telemachus> Berg:         sudo  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:35] <mwe> Berg: that will run it as super user
[12:35] <poningru> ves: apt-cache showpkg foobar
[12:35] <msg43> I'm assuming I'd need headers or source though what package i s that called?
[12:36] <iKrnel> msg43: You need to download the kernel source, if that's what you're asking.
[12:36] <foxiness> msg43, apt-get install tree
[12:36] <ves> poningru: awesome, cheers man
[12:36] <poningru> ves: yep
[12:36] <navarone> Berg this pastebin entry has an xorh.conf file that specifies your video chip...Take a look at it and compare it with yours...or copy and paste yours to pastebin so that we can compare them as well http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6033
[12:36] <msg43> I need it for the orinoco usb cvs
[12:36] <poningru> foxiness: what exactly is the prob?
[12:36] <beau> hey, how would i go about installing a virtual machine program so I can run windows XP on my ubuntu system as well?
[12:36] <poningru> you need a certain pkg?
[12:37] <iKrnel> They should make a kernel-devel pacakge, so that people don't need to download whole kernel sources just to compile some drivers.
[12:37] <poningru> !tell beau about xen
[12:37] <foxiness> msg43, apt-get install linux-tree-'uname -r'
[12:37] <poningru> !tel beau about qemu
[12:37] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, poningru
[12:37] <poningru> wtf
[12:37] <msg43> iKrnel, uname -r says i have 2.6.12 I can't seem to find the source in apt for 2.12
[12:37] <crimsun> linux-tree-2.6.12, not $(uname -r)
[12:37] <mwe> someone spoon feed Berg a bit for me. I'm getting tired
[12:37] <navarone> tell* maybe poningru
[12:37] <kameron> mwe: lollerskates
[12:38] <poningru> doh
[12:38] <crimsun> iKrnel: you don't need -source-2.6.12 to compile drivers.
[12:38] <poningru> !qemu
[12:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[12:38] <beau> tell me again =)
[12:38] <msg43> crimsun, thanks seems to be getting it know
[12:38] <beau> k
[12:38] <msg43> *now
[12:38] <msg43> I'm tryin ot get a 2wire wireless usb card to work
[12:38] <mwe> do you guys find qemu usable? It ran so slow here I gave up using it. even with kqemu enabled
[12:38] <beau> whats better, xen or qemu?
[12:38] <msg43> It for my sisters
[12:38] <poningru> beau: your choice :)
[12:38] <beau> xen has been getting a lot of attention lately
[12:38] <crimsun> mwe: even with the binary-only accelerator module?
[12:38] <mwe> crimsun: right
[12:39] <tahorg> windows runs on xen ?
[12:39] <poningru> beau: I have personally never used either of them
[12:39] <mwe> crimsun: the qemu console confirmed it was loaded
[12:39] <beau> ok
[12:39] <omoios> from wav to mp3 an easy way for gnome desktop?
[12:39] <poningru> beau: if you are just trying to run windows there is always wine
[12:39] <beau> well
[12:39] <beau> tried
[12:39] <beau> buti cant get it to run photoshop cs2
[12:39] <beau> I use gimp when I can, but cs2 just has more features that i need
[12:39] <poningru> beau: why dont you just dualboot?
[12:40] <beau> because it's annoying :)
[12:40] <polpak> <3 gimp
[12:40] <_SD_Keo> alo =)
[12:40] <Telemachus> beau: I always use vmware.....but its not free :(
[12:40] <beau> <3 gimp too but I need some things in photoshop
[12:40] <poningru> beau: hehe
[12:40] <beau> tele: vmware is for win right?
[12:40] <poningru> beau: yeah gimp isnt there yet
[12:40] <mwe> crimsun: googling around revealed very varied succes by using the kqemu module. from almost no performance gain to like boosting by a factor 10
[12:40] <_SD_Keo> Who was it that told me stem desktop was a good hoice for older hardware?
[12:40] <Telemachus> beau: Yes its excellent
[12:40] <beau> gimp is getting there there poningru
[12:40] <poningru> yeah true
[12:41] <beau> well I was hoping to keep linux as my main OS, and then just run WinXP to run a couple apps I really need
[12:41] <msg43> crimsun, were is the tree located?
[12:41] <beau> I like wine but it doesn't always work and doesn' tseem to like CS2
[12:41] <beau> i'll check out xen, thanks a lot guys
[12:41] <crimsun> msg43: the tarballs and dirs are in /usr/src/
[12:41] <_SD_Keo> beau, cedega, if you want to pay for it
[12:42] <msg43> crimsun, ok thanks
[12:42] <navarone> beau...that is what I do basically...ubuntu I use for internet use exclusively cos it is just safer
[12:42] <Telemachus> beau: no worries...there are free evals of vmware if you want to test it
[12:42] <beau> Tele: thanks, i'll look into it for sure
[12:42] <mwe> crimsun: I went the vmware player hack way instead. it works great
[12:42] <_SD_Keo> gah bitchx is a horrid IRC client.. brb
[12:43] <Andrew[CS] > pumpernickel it doesn't have it it seems... and what would be so bad about doing it, what would it do later?
[12:43] <IdleOne> low fat BitchX is tatsy
[12:43] <bob832> is it possible to change the date/time through the command line?
[12:43] <mwe> bob832: yes
[12:43] <TCTCH> hey there.....is anybody able to play midi on ubuntu??
[12:43] <mwe> bob832: the date commaned will do it
[12:44] <Andrew[CS] > whats the date command
[12:44] <kemik> crimsun:  shouldnt alsa-oss get skype to work with soundmixing ?
[12:44] <crimsun> TCTCH: I've used timidity.
[12:44] <bob832> mwe:  lol didn't realize it would be that easy
[12:44] <haike> hi
[12:44] <crimsun> kemik: generally, no.
[12:44] <bob832> thanks
[12:44] <Andrew[CS] > pumpernickel ?
[12:44] <Telemachus> date MMDDhhmm
[12:44] <mwe> bob832: it's not. the syntax sucks and I have to look it up everytime I use it
[12:44] <crimsun> kemik: if it works, it's because something's broken
[12:44] <poningru> hello haike
[12:44] <kemik> crimsun:  hmm, why doesnt that work ?
[12:44] <kemik> damn this soundsystem is a real PITA ;)
[12:44] <haike> hi poningru
[12:44] <midza> ubuntu.de
[12:44] <crimsun> kemik: because of the way Skype apparently uses OSS{/Free}
[12:44] <TCTCH> crimsun: is it in the original reposity?
[12:45] <crimsun> !info timidity
[12:45] <ubotu> timidity: (Software sound renderer (MIDI sequencer, MOD player)), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 2.13.2-6ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 532 kB, Installed size: 1704 kB
[12:45] <shooters> Is there a way to do a script that would look for a string in a file, and if it finds it, simply delete the file...
[12:45] <TCTCH> crimsun: dont I have to configure my midi output?
[12:45] <khermans> mwe, date 2006010622:22
[12:45] <mwe> shooters: yes
[12:45] <butcherbird> shooters: python is great for stuff like that
[12:45] <poningru> shooters: what do you mean in a file?
[12:45] <crimsun> TCTCH: there are instructions online under the midi docs at alsa.opensrc.org
[12:45] <navarone> wb Berg
[12:45] <poningru> shooters: nm
[12:45] <kemik> ick :(
[12:45] <mwe> shooters: sed -i 's/removeme//g' file.txt
[12:46] <kemik> better mail skype developers :)
[12:46] <midza> how can speak german
[12:46] <bob832> mwe: yeah, i see, according to Telemachus's example
[12:46] <shooters> look for the string "File not found" (I'm downloading some pages from a website)
[12:46] <TCTCH> crimsun: uhu....looks quite complicated
[12:46] <poningru> !de
[12:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:46] <Andrew[CS] > so who knows how to get to another server from xchat?
[12:46] <bueller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6704    while attempting to update mulit-and-universe
[12:46] <bueller> got errors
[12:46] <kemik> Andrew[CS] :  /connect servername
[12:46] <TCTCH> crimsun: isnt there a wiki how do make it in ubuntu enable?
[12:46] <Andrew[CS] > ok...
[12:46] <kemik> Andrew[CS] :  ctrl-t opens a new tab
[12:46] <IdleOne> Anders,  /server you.server.ofchoice
[12:46] <poningru> Andrew[CS] : press ctrl+t and then type /server irc.servername.org
[12:47] <msg43> make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[12:47] <msg43> Why is that happinging?
[12:47] <berg_> I am back
[12:47] <IdleOne> opps i meant Andrew[CS] 
[12:47] <berg_> something weird
[12:47] <kemik> guess /connect was mirc then ;Z
[12:47] <mwe> msg43: gcc-3.4 is not installed I guess
[12:47] <kemik> or irssi
[12:47] <kemik> whatever :)
[12:47] <berg_> I typed that thing in the terminal
[12:47] <msg43> mwe, yeah I have 4.0
[12:47] <msg43> so how do I fix it
[12:47] <berg_> and this gray screen came
[12:47] <mwe> msg43: what are you trying to do?
[12:47] <berg_> and it asked me theese questions
[12:47] <kemik> msg43:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:47] <msg43> mwe, compile orinoco source
[12:47] <kemik> msg43:  it seems you don not have the compiler
[12:47] <msg43> kemik, that how I got gcc-4.0
[12:47] <globe> Is anybody else having problems with macromedia flash movies displaying properly in ff?  I cant see any fonts at all....
[12:48] <bueller> got errors
[12:48] <berg_> then once that was done the screen turned all black
[12:48] <mwe> msg43: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[12:48] <bueller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6704
[12:48] <jahshua--> hey can someone please tell me the command to check how much RAM i have ??
[12:48] <poningru> globe: its a known prob
[12:48] <kemik> msg43:  well, either hax the Makefile, or apt-get gcc-3.4
[12:48] <Andrew[CS] > its not doing anything
[12:48] <berg_> and then it opened my DOS prompt or something
[12:48] <poningru> globe: I think the solution was installing mscorefont
[12:48] <riddlebox> jahshua-- free
[12:48] <poningru> dont remember
[12:48] <IdleOne> Andrew[CS] ,  what server do you want?
[12:48] <poningru> !tell globe about font
[12:48] <globe> poningru: can I apt-get that?
[12:48] <berg_> and I could not do anything else
[12:48] <poningru> globe: yep
[12:48] <Andrew[CS] > archspace...
[12:48] <msg43> ok
[12:48] <mwe> someone help berg_ out. He's completely lost
[12:49] <poningru> globe: search for the exact package name
[12:49] <globe> poningru: thanks!
[12:49] <msg43> I hate wireless cards that are a pain the ass to get working
[12:49] <berg_> :(
[12:49] <IdleOne> Andrew[CS] ,  type /server irc.archspace.com
[12:49] <bueller> anyone have some clues regarding my inabiltiy to update multiverse and universe?
[12:49] <Andrew[CS] > irc.archspace.org
[12:49] <IdleOne> or .net
[12:49] <IdleOne> ok .org
[12:49] <berg_> my mom is kinda also getting pissed
[12:49] <Telemachus> berg_: and what did you enter when it asked you questions?
[12:49] <berg_> I said OK
[12:49] <Andrew[CS] > i did it and it didn't do anything
[12:49] <Andrew[CS] > wait
[12:49] <mwe> Telemachus: wrong info apparently :)
[12:50] <Andrew[CS] > someone else said connect sorry
[12:50] <Telemachus> mwe: lol
[12:50] <iKrnel> Eep... ubuntu does come preconfigured with some kind of security, doesn't it?
[12:50] <crimsun> iKrnel: clarify?
[12:50] <kcantin> ok, anyone able to asssit me in connecting to my windows network?
[12:50] <berg_> it asked me about the mouse and the hardware and it found the best compatable programs and such but then it turned black
[12:50] <vb_coder> how can i completely remove the kernel that came with ubuntu including all of the packages with it and just use the new one i updated to?
[12:50] <bueller> rebooting
[12:50] <polpak> iKrnel, how do you mean?
[12:50] <poningru> bueller: did you need help with multiverse?
[12:50] <bueller> ponigru yes
[12:50] <topyli> what's the best way to upload pictures to flickr on linux?
[12:50] <kemik> i guess he means there's no need for a fw since no services are running
[12:50] <crimsun> vb_coder: why remove it? Just update-grub and reboot into your preferred one.
[12:50] <kemik> ?
[12:51] <navarone> mwe...i found doing the reconfigure xserver thing to solve a display problem caused more problems than it solved. I lost mouse and keyboard trying it that way. editting xorg.conf directly seems easier to me
[12:51] <kameron> okay well, im uninstalling amd64, installing x86. WISH ME LUCK
[12:51] <IdleOne> kcantin,  windows network wizzard can help you with that
[12:51] <ColonelPanique> vb_coder : don't remove it! you may need it someday!
[12:51] <iKrnel> polpak: Like, SELinux?
[12:51] <poningru> bueller: ok heres what you should do
[12:51] <bueller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6704
[12:51] <polpak> iKrnel, no, it doesn't have SELinux enabled
[12:51] <bueller> k
[12:51] <mwe> navarone: ok. please help berg out with it then :)
[12:51] <Telemachus> berg_: can you open another terminal
[12:51] <foxiness> poningru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6706 ,this error happen after i deavtive my conn wheel the apt-get loading the index of universe
[12:51] <berg_> k
[12:51] <mwe> navarone: he's completely lost
[12:51] <iKrnel> polpak: ah... dammn. I need to enable it quickly...
[12:52] <poningru> bueller: hold on
[12:52] <polpak> iKrnel, why?
[12:52] <berg_> done
[12:52] <bueller> np
[12:52] <navarone> berg> what are you able to see and do presently? Do you have full screen desktop adn use of mouse?
[12:52] <berg_> my screen is not full and I can use the mouse
[12:52] <berg_> when I minimize programs I cant open them again
[12:52] <poningru> bueller: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:52] <iKrnel> polpak: Some guy reckons he can "hack" me
[12:52] <crimsun> you really want ``gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list''
[12:52] <poningru> bueller: replace the entire thing with the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:53] <mwe> poningru: have him back it up first :)
[12:53] <bueller> ponigru in term?
[12:53] <poningru> mwe: he already borked it
[12:53] <Telemachus> berg_:  press the up arrow until you get to your dpkg-reconfigure command
[12:53] <polpak> iKernel, I find that unlikely since ubuntu doesn't listen to the outside world by default either
[12:53] <CanadianSnow> ok
[12:53] <mwe> poningru: I see :)
[12:53] <cafuego> iKernel: I bet that makes him feel really smart.
[12:53] <poningru> bueller: what does that mean? in term
[12:53] <berg_> then it asks for a password
[12:53] <CanadianSnow> so in the server list, how do I specifiy a port to use for xchat
[12:53] <bueller> in a terminal window?
[12:53] <berg_> yeah
[12:53] <poningru> bueller: yep
[12:53] <poningru> err
[12:53] <bueller> ok
[12:53] <iKernel> cafuego: I don't think he really understands how hard it is to crack a linux system.
[12:53] <Telemachus> berg_: okay type your password
[12:54] <poningru> bueller: when you do sudo gedit ... it should open up a gedit window
[12:54] <polpak> iKernel, particularly one that doesn't listen to the outside world
[12:54] <cafuego> iKernel: Well, depending on the system it can be trivially easy (redhat 6 :-)
[12:54] <CanadianSnow> aka text
[12:54] <CanadianSnow> anyways
[12:54] <navarone> berg type cd /etc/X11 and enter in terminal
[12:54] <berg_> done
[12:54] <polpak> iKernel, I don't think you need to go to the trouble of SELinux
[12:54] <CanadianSnow> how do i tell it what ports to use?
[12:54] <iKernel> cafuego: heh heh...
[12:54] <cafuego> iKernel: But a default Ubuntu install? Not likely.
[12:54] <berg_> now the grey screen comes
[12:54] <CanadianSnow> !port
[12:54] <ubotu> CanadianSnow: Not a clue
[12:54] <CanadianSnow> !ports
[12:54] <ubotu> CanadianSnow: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:54] <CanadianSnow> uh
[12:54] <navarone> Okay...I will wait for Telemachus ...too many people trying to help at once...lol
[12:55] <CanadianSnow> navarone, do you know
[12:55] <CanadianSnow> ?
[12:55] <Telemachus> navarone: you welcome to take over :)
[12:55] <navarone> know what?
[12:55] <Comrade_Sergei> where can i go for ebay supprot and dont say #ebay cause theres noone there
[12:55] <iKernel> polpak: What do you mean by "doesn't listen to the outside world"? He could sneak in port 80, couldn't he?
[12:55] <CanadianSnow> how to specify a port to use
[12:55] <cafuego> iKernel: See?
[12:55] <poningru> bueller: did it work?
[12:55] <berg_> ....
[12:55] <polpak> iKernel, did you install apache?
[12:55] <Telemachus> berg_: what do you have on your screen
[12:56] <berg_> -_-...I got the grey screen...
[12:56] <CanadianSnow> for a server
[12:56] <navarone> no Telemachus  go for it
[12:56] <navarone> CanadianSnow, a irc server?
[12:56] <crimsun> iKernel: no daemons installed by default listen on external interfaces
[12:56] <mwe> iKernel: you can't "sneak in a port" if nothing is listening
[12:56] <iKernel> polpak: Maybe, but apparently it isn't running :)
[12:56] <poningru> mwe: whats the bogoactivation daemon
[12:56] <CanadianSnow> because my x-chat is using port 6667 trying to connect, which doesn't work (for other irc server) and i dont know how to change it
[12:56] <cafuego> iKernel: Ubuntu *only* listens for connections if you explicitly install the software to do so. Even then, the packaged apache is unlikely to contains exploits only this (dalnet?) person knows about.
[12:56] <iKernel> mwe: point taken.
[12:56] <poningru> anyone actually ^^^
[12:56] <liable> CanadianSnow: in the config file for whatever service it is.
[12:57] <CanadianSnow> wheres that
[12:57] <berg_> anything>
[12:57] <berg_> anything?
[12:57] <bueller> working...im keeping notes of all my systme configureation journey's i think it will make a good novel
[12:57] <poningru> bueller: hehe true
[12:57] <Telemachus> berg_: I assume that is just in the terminal you ran the dpkg-reconfigure on....or are you using irc on a diffrent computer?
[12:57] <bueller> ok going to terminal now
[12:57] <navarone> CanadianSnow, when you type /server <servername> <port nuumber> <-- usually 6667 but can be 6668-9 etc
[12:57] <berg_> I am using the IRC on my only comp
[12:57] <iKernel> cafuego: Somehow, I don't think this guy uses his own tools. I think he just downloads "hacking" tools off the internet.
[12:57] <berg_> its a small grey screen
[12:58] <polpak> iKernel, which makes him even less likely to succeed
[12:58] <iKernel> polpak: Yep.
[12:58] <cafuego> iKernel: that's why I was guessing at dalnet ;-)
[12:58] <berg_> it also has some blue and black
[12:58] <CanadianSnow> but if i do it thru the server list...
[12:58] <Telemachus> berg_: okay...so your whole screen obviously isn't grey
[12:58] <berg_> no
[12:58] <Comrade_Sergei> where can i go for ebay supprot and dont say #ebay cause theres noone there
[12:58] <iKernel> cafuego: Nah, this guy is from school.
[12:58] <CanadianSnow> it wont work automatically
[12:58] <polpak> iKernel, unless you installed a bunch of daemons you have nothing to worry about
[12:58] <cafuego> iKernel: Oh dear :-)  I'd just ignore him.
[12:58] <iKernel> polpak: Ok.
[12:58] <CanadianSnow> and then i'll have to join another server to get to a different one
[12:58] <navarone> Comrade...i can tell you...and I'll start the bidding at $20...j/k <h'yuk>
[12:59] <berg_> it says at the top configuring xserver-Xorg
[12:59] <iKernel> cafuego: I reckon he's blocked me :D
[12:59] <polpak> iKernel, and even if you did install daemons it's doubtful any of them allow for remote exploits that he'd know about
[12:59] <cafuego> iKernel: Maybe 'ping -s 1025' his windows box at some stage.
[12:59] <Telemachus> berg_: when you say the screen is grey what do you mean....just the terminal window that you typed dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:59] <berg_> no'
[12:59] <berg_> I mean yes
[12:59] <berg_> yes
[12:59] <iKernel> cafuego: Unfortuneatly, I don't know how to find out his ip address over the msn protocall.
[12:59] <rambo3> i mean no
[12:59] <berg_> definately
[12:59] <Belboz99> Hey, I'm having trouble using the audio I/O engine.  Audacity can't seem to intialize it, even though ALSA's running fine in all other apps
[12:59] <bueller> should i reboot and try to play an mp3?
[01:00] <beau> !vmware
[01:00] <bueller> poni?
[01:00] <berg_> should I press OK on the grey/black/blue screen?
[01:00] <Unity> anyone else having trouble connecting to the wiki?
[01:01] <Belboz99> Anyone else having trouble with Audacity and the audio I/O engine?
[01:01] <Telemachus> berg_: does the grey screen have text on it?
[01:01] <berg_> yes
[01:01] <bueller> !tell ponigru i did it should i reboot and attempt to plan an mp3?
[01:01] <Telemachus> berg_: what does it say?
[01:01] <mwe> Unity: it loads here
[01:01] <berg_> it said I should use this if I want to find reccomended x server and x driver for my video card
[01:01] <Unity> mwe: odd
[01:01] <kcantin> on luck, is there anyone that can help me connect to my windows network?
[01:02] <Belboz99> kcantin, you need SAMBA
[01:02] <polpak> kcantin, my suggestion is to install smbfs and smb4k
[01:02] <Telemachus> berg_: okay...select no
[01:02] <CanadianSnow> !samba
[01:02] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:02] <berg_> I cant
[01:02] <berg_> there is only one option
[01:02] <berg_> OK
[01:02] <CanadianSnow> so
[01:02] <berg_> highlighted in red
[01:02] <CanadianSnow> ya
[01:03] <CanadianSnow> about this port thing?
[01:03] <berg_> ...
[01:03] <Telemachus> berg_: right......press enter
[01:03] <CanadianSnow> anyone here use xchat
[01:03] <iKernel> Should be easy enough, I'll just traceroute 207.46.0.32:1863
[01:03] <berg_> now it says attempt autodetect hardware?
[01:03] <bueller> hahahahahah mp3's work yippeeee!
[01:03] <bueller> tytyty pnoigru
[01:03] <Telemachus> berg_: you selected no and pressed enter?
[01:04] <bunghole> hi
[01:04] <berg_> no I pressed enter
[01:04] <bueller> should dvd's play on appropriate hardware to?
[01:04] <berg_> there was only one option
[01:04] <berg_> OK
[01:04] <poningru> CanadianSnow: yeah I use xchat
[01:04] <berg_> now I can choose between yes and no
[01:04] <poningru> bueller: ?
[01:04] <bueller> it worked
[01:04] <poningru> bueller: cool
[01:04] <bueller> should dvds play too?
[01:05] <Telemachus> berg_: right......is it now asking if you want to autodetect
[01:05] <polpak> !dvd
[01:05] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:05] <bunghole> I finally installed ubuntu server only and now i need to know how to do the nvidia geforce mx2/200 driver setup.  I know the debian way, is it the same, like nvidia-kernel-common and glx etc. and then build the kernel module and insall it?
[01:05] <berg_> yes
[01:05] <poningru> no dont thing so
[01:05] <quacker> how do I restart the sound server in Ubuntu?
[01:05] <polpak> bah
[01:05] <crimsun> bunghole: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:05] <Sanne> CanadianSnow: when I click on add server, it gives me newserver/6667, so I guess that's how you specify a port.
[01:05] <CanadianSnow> poningru ok, do you use any servers besides this one?
[01:05] <poningru> bueller: normal dvds should play, but some might need libdvd
[01:05] <polpak> bueller, see the restricted howto
[01:05] <poningru> CanadianSnow: yes
[01:05] <Telemachus> berg_: select the no option...we will choose stuff manually
[01:05] <crimsun> quacker: System> Preferences> Sound
[01:05] <quacker> I think I have aRTs OSS and ALSA (as well as SDL)
[01:05] <polpak> ubotu tell bueller about restricted
[01:05] <iKernel> cafugego: What will ping -s 1025 do?
[01:05] <poningru> CanadianSnow: irc.mozilla.org
[01:05] <crimsun> quacker: are you using GNOME or KDE?
[01:05] <mwe> I believe you don't need samba to just mount a windows share on your linux machine. smbfs is enough, right?
[01:05] <poningru> mwe: yeah
[01:05] <berg_> now I have to chose the desired X server driver
[01:06] <CanadianSnow> so you just put /port number beside it?
[01:06] <iKernel> cafugego: Cause I'm about to ping -s 1025 172.30.215.24
[01:06] <poningru> CanadianSnow: yeah I think so
[01:06] <poningru> CanadianSnow: hold on
[01:06] <spacey_ki> iKernel, man ping
[01:06] <bunghole> im in console, i need an ssl capable browser to view that site
[01:06] <Telemachus> berg_: press the up arrow and choose i810
[01:06] <bunghole> links2 is crap
[01:06] <bunghole> :/
[01:06] <berg_> done
[01:06] <Telemachus> berg_: when highlighted press enter
[01:06] <poningru> CanadianSnow: yeah /server irc.gimp.org 7000
[01:06] <poningru> for example
[01:06] <quacker> Hey, crimsun Happy New Year.  You helped me get it up and running in the first place (at least PCM for digital audio extraction wave playback)
[01:06] <robotgeek> bunghole: w3m
[01:06] <CanadianSnow> thanks
[01:06] <berg_> now I need to input identifier for my video card
[01:07] <poningru> yep
[01:07] <crimsun> bunghole: then install links-ssl
[01:07] <mwe> iKernel: what would that do? ping with a large packet size?
[01:07] <CanadianSnow> YEA it works now
[01:07] <CanadianSnow> thanks
[01:07] <poningru> OMG
[01:07] <Telemachus> berg_: just press enter...we'll use the default
[01:07] <berg_> k
[01:07] <poningru> I was on Open cd front page
[01:07] <bunghole> ahh, elinks
[01:07] <quacker> bunghole, I gots dem both and a few root consoles too
[01:07] <berg_> now I need to input te bud identifier
[01:07] <berg_> bus
[01:07] <Telemachus> berg_:  press enter at this one
[01:08] <iKernel> mwe: Ah... it's been a little while since I last used a linux system, except yesterday. 3, 2 days...
[01:08] <berg_> now I can enter the memory I can use (in Kb) for my card
[01:08] <quacker> Where do the actual 'guts' live?
[01:08] <Telemachus> berg_: press enter again...we don't need to define this
[01:08] <kcantin> how do I install smbfs and smb4k?
[01:09] <bueller> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6708
[01:09] <polpak> kcantin, sudo apt-get install smbfs smb4k
[01:09] <bueller> new error will try lib file
[01:09] <berg_> now it asks if I should use kernel frame buffer device interface
[01:09] <Telemachus> berg_: press enter again...we'll ignore the framebuffer
[01:09] <berg_> now I must select the keyboard layout
[01:09] <mwe> iKernel: I wonder if it would flood the network at that ip or what
[01:09] <Telemachus> berg_: yes to autodetect keyboard
[01:09] <iKernel> mwe: maybe
[01:09] <berg_> I have qwerty but it says us
[01:10] <iKernel> mwe: But I don't wanna do anything to him
[01:10] <Telemachus> berg_: are you in the us?
[01:10] <berg_> yes
[01:10] <Telemachus> berg_: its fine press okay
[01:10] <theking> when i run make, I get "Default KERNELPATH not found"
[01:10] <theking> any ideas?
[01:10] <berg_> now I select the XKB set to use
[01:10] <dabaR> !any ideas
[01:10] <ubotu> Yeah, I have an idea!  But I'll need a drawer full of condoms, a little vegemite, and 5 or 6 rabid bunnies.  And keep the FBI off my back fo
[01:11] <berg_> *the rule set
[01:11] <kcantin> I got an error with dpkg so I am running that manually now to fix the problem
[01:11] <Telemachus> berg_: press enter here
[01:11] <berg_> now I select keyboard model
[01:11] <berg_> it says pc104
[01:11] <iKernel> !tell iKernel about iKernel
[01:11] <dabaR> Is the command for vi "syntax on" for syntax coloring?
[01:11] <Telemachus> berg_: press enter again :)
[01:11] <iKernel> !tell iKernel about ubuntu
[01:11] <berg_> I should now select keyboard variant
[01:11] <kcantin> E: Couldn't find package smb4k
[01:11] <kcantin> "
[01:12] <berg_> and its blank
[01:12] <ves> Does anybody use screen and ever notice it behaving strangely with gnome-terminal? Screens blacking out, typing over the status bar and generally being a pain in the ass? :/
[01:12] <Telemachus> berg_: press enter again :)
[01:12] <berg_> now I should select my keyboard options
[01:12] <berg_> its blank
[01:12] <berg_> should I press enter? :)
[01:12] <Telemachus> berg_: ok - press enter again :)
[01:12] <kcantin> after downloading smbfs and smb4k then, what do I need to do?
[01:12] <iKernel> ves: Try using tty instead of gnome-terminal. Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:12] <berg_> it says attempt mouse device autodetection
[01:12] <berg_> ?
[01:13] <berg_> yes or no
[01:13] <Telemachus> berg_: choose yes
[01:13] <kcantin> after downloading smbfs and smb4k then, what do I need to do?
[01:13] <kcantin> could not find smb4k
[01:13] <berg_> now it says please choose your mouse port
[01:13] <berg_> and lots of options
[01:14] <ves> iKernel: I'm sure it may work pretty good, I just wondered if there was a workaround for gnome-terminal, I enjoy using it with x
[01:14] <kcantin> smbfs is installed I think
[01:14] <Telemachus> berg_:what kind of mouse do you have?...usb....ps2?
[01:14] <rambo3> copy/paste on gnome terminal
[01:14] <berg_> it is not USB
[01:14] <berg_> thats all I know
[01:15] <poningru> berg_: is it an old mouse?
[01:15] <Telemachus> berg_: what options do you have
[01:15] <berg_> ball mouse with wheel
[01:15] <robotgeek> ves: yes,i've noticed that. i use rxvt now
[01:16] <Telemachus> berg_: you said it had lots of options on the screen?
[01:16] <berg_> it connects to my comp like an antenna would to a TV
[01:16] <berg_> yeah
[01:16] <ves> robotgeek: Could you elaborate on what that is? Another type of terminal? I've thought about trying aterm or something similar
[01:16] <kent> Berg, are you from sweden?
[01:16] <Eugman> !lamp
[01:16] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:16] <Eugman> !lamp
[01:16] <Eugman> whoops
[01:16] <Jared> how can i add some code for the v4l drivers........i found an error in the driver for the creative instant webcam
[01:16] <robotgeek> ves: similiar to aterm, but lesser resources. also supports unicode etc etc
[01:16] <bunghole> ~umm, whats the package name for xwindows
[01:16] <crimsun> bunghole: x-window-system-core
[01:17] <bunghole> oh same as debian
[01:17] <bunghole> word
[01:17] <berg_> all have /dev/ then in order: ttyS2, ttyS3, /input/mice
[01:17] <berg_> and more
[01:17] <jahshua--> hey how can i check what kind of mouse im using ?
[01:17] <ves> robotgeek: Oh, cool. You miss anything from gnome-terminal? I've found it to be a pretty nice app and it'd be a shame to leave it. I'll check rxvt out though
[01:17] <berg_> atibm
[01:17] <jahshua--> anyone know the command ?
[01:17] <berg_> sunmouse, gpmdata
[01:17] <Telemachus> berg_: okay....is there a /dev/input/mice option
[01:17] <berg_> yes
[01:17] <berg_> select that?
[01:17] <Telemachus> berg_:choose that one
[01:18] <berg_> oops...I pressed OK on something else
[01:18] <berg_> -_-
[01:18] <berg_> @_@
[01:18] <robotgeek> ves: what features do you like in gnome-terminal
[01:18] <jahshua--> hey how can i check what kind of mouse im using, anyone know the command for that?
[01:18] <Telemachus> berg_:bollox!
[01:19] <berg_> ?
[01:19] <ves> robotgeek: good point. :) I've just always found it to do its job nicely, and installed on most linux machines.
[01:19] <robotgeek> ves: it might not be straight forward to change colors etc, but it's a whole lot easier to move the configuration files around
[01:19] <Telemachus> guys can you go back on the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg screen
[01:19] <berg_> I can do it over
[01:19] <ves> robotgeek: I see.
[01:19] <berg_> I remember the options
[01:19] <Telemachus> berg_: okay...we'll start again!
[01:20] <robotgeek> ves: i can also share with you my conf files :)
[01:20] <jahshua--> robotgeek: do you know how i might check what type of mouse im using ?
[01:20] <Telemachus> berg_: press ctrl and c
[01:20] <ves> robotgeek: That would be cool, thanks :)
[01:20] <ves> robotgeek: Is it based on aterm?
[01:20] <robotgeek> jahshua--: usb/ps2/serial..these are the only three types i know
[01:20] <bueller> im at seveas im a bit lost on doing this procedure...doesnt seem to be clearly defined
[01:20] <Telemachus> berg_: hold ctrl down and press c at the same time
[01:20] <robotgeek> ves: similiar, but not identical.
[01:20] <ves> hmm
[01:21] <kcantin> i just can't seem to get this to work.  Can anyone help?
[01:21] <berg_> done
[01:21] <berg_> now back to normal
[01:21] <poningru> kcantin: what are you trying to do?
[01:21] <jahshua--> robotgeek:its a wireless microsoft one
[01:21] <berg_> now it asks if I want to emulate a 3 button mouse
[01:21] <mwe> !tell kcantin about helpme
[01:21] <poningru> bueller: what have you done so  far?
[01:21] <Telemachus> berg_: okay...press the up key and the dpkg-reconfigure command should reappear
[01:21] <Jared> how do you open a tar.bz2 file?
[01:22] <berg_> I am back to where we left off
[01:22] <berg_> no need
[01:22] <poningru> Jared: you can just right click on it and press extract
[01:22] <mwe> Jared: tar jxvf foo.tar.bz2 will extract it
[01:22] <bueller> im merely at seveas site im about to updat to the packages
[01:22] <Jared> kk
[01:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jared about compile
[01:22] <bueller> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:22] <mwe> you are all so modern with right clicking files and all
[01:22] <Telemachus> berg_: you mean at the screen after you chose the wrong option?
[01:23] <poningru> bueller: hold on
[01:23] <berg_> right
[01:23] <bueller> k ty
[01:23] <berg_> but I chose the right option this time
[01:23] <berg_> :D
[01:23] <ves> robotgeek: I remember spend ages trying to get a decent font for aterm and ended up giving up
[01:23] <Telemachus> berg_: cool.....
[01:23] <robotgeek> ves: http://robotgeek.org/dotfiles/Xdefaults
[01:23] <Bjelleklang> is there any easy way to install JDK from ssh?
[01:23] <Bjelleklang> apt-get install something?
[01:23] <berg_> should I emulate a three button mouse? I CAN click my wheel so it is practically a button
[01:23] <poningru> bueller: ok you dont have to do that
[01:23] <rambo3> eterm is nice , just that it doesnt have scrollbar
[01:23] <ves> robotgeek: Cheers, I appreciate it
[01:24] <Telemachus> berg_: nope
[01:24] <poningru> bueller: go into a terminal and sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[01:24] <robotgeek> ves: it's got aterm,xterm and urxvt
[01:24] <berg_> enable scroll event for mouse wheel?
[01:24] <Telemachus> berg_: don't emaulate the 3 button
[01:24] <berg_> k
[01:24] <berg_> done
[01:24] <poningru> bueller: and then sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[01:24] <iKernel> :D gotta love fast internet
[01:24] <poningru> iKernel: I know gigabit connections are awesoom
[01:24] <berg_> should I enable scroll event for the mouse?
[01:24] <Telemachus> berg_: yeah u can eanble the scroll event
[01:25] <ves> robotgeek: Nice, ~/.Xdefaults yeah? Doesn't seem to be loading them..
[01:25] <berg_> now I should select the x.org server module
[01:25] <Telemachus> berg_: just press enter here
[01:26] <berg_> write default files selection to configuration file?
[01:26] <Telemachus> berg_: choose yes
[01:27] <mwe> Telemachus: did it ask for resolution or do you have to change that editing the file afterwords?
[01:27] <berg_> write default DRI section to configuration file?
[01:27] <bueller> couldnt stat source package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6709
[01:27] <Telemachus> mwe: not at that point yet :)
[01:27] <Bjelleklang> is there any easy way to install java sdk from ssh?
[01:27] <Bjelleklang> apt-get install something?
[01:27] <mwe> Telemachus: ok
[01:27] <berg_> ?
[01:27] <Telemachus> berg_: enter yes here
[01:28] <navarone> yikes
[01:28] <ves> robotgeek: I don't know if http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-ncurses/2002-03/msg00025.html would be of any interest to you, by far the only documented problem I can find
[01:28] <Telemachus> that wee bugger has gone!
[01:29] <bueller> i think it is basically saying I have libdvdread3
[01:29] <flodine> can you install the new gnome on breezy
[01:29] <Berg> ok
[01:29] <Berg> so it just rebooted
[01:29] <bueller> yet dvd and vcd have no video in totem
[01:30] <bueller> dvd wont even play
[01:30] <Telemachus> Berg:  ???? your whole computer rebooted?
[01:30] <Berg> it went black then I had to log in again
[01:30] <poningru> bueller: wait what did it say?
[01:30] <rambo3> sudo reboot
[01:30] <bueller> couldnt stat source package http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6709
[01:30] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[01:30] <robotgeek> ves: you will need to save that file as .Xdefaults in your home directory and do xrdb -merge .Xdefaults
[01:30] <flodine> help
[01:30] <mwe> flodine: sure. "just" install it from source
[01:30] <ves> robotgeek: cheers
[01:30] <flodine> thxs
[01:31] <bueller> ponigru is that link for me?
[01:31] <poningru> bueller: yeah but thats not the problem
[01:31] <Telemachus> Berg: we'll have to do it again!
[01:31] <bueller> hmmmm
[01:31] <Berg> :(
[01:31] <poningru> I forgot to tell you to apt-get update
[01:31] <bueller> standby?
[01:31] <Berg> I can do it fast
[01:31] <torron> 7list
[01:31] <bueller> ahh
[01:31] <ves> robotgeek: Nice, you ever looked into the font though? And getting the annoying left hand side bar away?
[01:31] <poningru> bueller: in a terminal sudo apt-get update
[01:31] <bueller> apt-get updat then your syntax?
[01:32] <torron> wee
[01:32] <bueller> will do.
[01:32] <robotgeek> ves: hmm, in which one? rxvt?
[01:32] <Telemachus> Berg: okay.......but not to fast
[01:32] <ves> robotgeek: yeah
[01:32] <poningru> bueller: yeah
[01:32] <Telemachus> Berg: can you open the terminal and type the dpkg-reconfigure command again
[01:32] <robotgeek> ves: these settings are for rxvt-unicode
[01:33] <ves> robotgeek: Oh, sorry I think I might be running just rxvt
[01:33] <bunghole> hey, i did what the site on binary driver howto/nvidia said,, but upon starting x, i get nvidia kernel module not found
[01:33] <bunghole> whats up withthat
[01:33] <bueller> no pub key on breezy
[01:33] <Manifold> Guys.
[01:33] <bunghole> i tried modprobe nvidia no dice, do i need to build the kernel module?
[01:33] <Manifold> I can't see the slit.
[01:33] <poningru> bueller: hmm?
[01:33] <robotgeek> ves: yeah, i am not sure if rxvt and rxvt-unicode use the same resource name
[01:33] <Manifold> I just installed Fluxbox.
[01:34] <Manifold> But the slit aint there..
[01:34] <rambo3> slit?
[01:34] <bunghole> oh come on man
[01:34] <bunghole> anyone?
[01:34] <bunghole> please
[01:34] <Eugman> anyone here have a working webserver on thier comp?
[01:34] <bunghole> help!
[01:34] <Manifold> Oh damn.
[01:34] <ves> robotgeek: Ah, that's much nicer. Still tiny font though :/
[01:34] <robotgeek> Eugman: yeah, still facing problems?
[01:34] <bueller> same error libdvdread3 is curremt
[01:34] <butcherbird> bunghole: you followed wiki site instructions?
[01:34] <Eugman> well I fixed the old problems
[01:34] <robotgeek> ves: you can increase the font size and stuff
[01:34] <bunghole> butcherbird: yes i did, to the dot
[01:34] <bueller> will do=im doing the task ;)
[01:35] <Stork> what does this mean: Warning: your X configuration has been succesfully changed.
[01:35] <Stork> In order to take full advantage of the changes, X needs to
[01:35] <Stork> be restarted.
[01:35] <kremonte> how do i check my internal IP? =X
[01:35] <Eugman> I completely remove everything and followed the directions so php works fine now
[01:35] <ves> robotgeek: yeah, I'll look into the config. I remember mucking with aterm and trying to get something nice like bittstream vera but gave up
[01:35] <bunghole> kremonte: ifconfig
[01:35] <kremonte> thanks
[01:35] <bunghole> no problem
[01:35] <butcherbird> bunghole: what model card?
[01:35] <bunghole> geforece mx2/200
[01:35] <bunghole> legacy
[01:35] <ves> robotgeek: It's really fast, though.
[01:35] <Eugman> but the problem now is that the files for media wiki seem to be in /var/lib/ instead of /var/www/
[01:35] <Telemachus> I've gotta go, its 00:35 here......can someone help Berg through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg menus.....he needs the i810 driver
[01:35] <Theflame> ci sei??
[01:36] <robotgeek> ves: yep, on my slow machine, it's very nice :)
[01:36] <Eugman> is there anyway to acess them through the server?
[01:36] <ves> robotgeek: :)
[01:36] <bunghole> i don't need 3d acceleration really, if i just use the nv driver it should work correct?
[01:36] <Theflame> vince???
[01:36] <Theflame> vince'??
[01:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bunghole: yeah, kinda
[01:36] <bunghole> i've always had to build the kernel module for nvidia myself in debian and modprobe it, or use module-assistant etc.
[01:36] <torron> wee
[01:36] <torron> ciao
[01:36] <torron> finalmente
[01:36] <torron> pvt dai
[01:37] <bunghole> but this ubuntu is crappin my mind
[01:37] <Theflame> questo e il chan dei rikkioni inglesi
[01:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bunghole: Here all you have to do for the nvidia driver is 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' :)
[01:37] <Theflame> aspe'
[01:37] <torron> auhauhahua
[01:37] <Theflame> vai su lista canali sopra
[01:37] <torron> si dei ricchioni
[01:37] <Stork> how do i restart my "X server" ?
[01:37] <Berg> ooook
[01:37] <torron> ahuauhaahuuaha
[01:37] <Theflame> e scrivi italia
[01:37] <gnomefreak> !es
[01:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:37] <bunghole> PuMpErNiCkLe: i did, as well as nvidia-glx.blah enable comand
[01:37] <Theflame> trovi
[01:37] <bunghole> no dice
[01:37] <Theflame> ubuntu.it
[01:37] <Theflame> entra li
[01:37] <gnomefreak> !it
[01:37] <Theflame> ok???
[01:37] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Stork: ctrl-alt-backspace - it'll quit all your applications, though
[01:37] <butcherbird> Stork: alt-ctrl-backspace? for sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:37] <kcantin> can anyone posbiby help me out?
[01:37] <torron> ok
[01:38] <Theflame> la detto pure il bot
[01:38] <Berg> should I write default files section to configuration file? yes or no
[01:38] <bueller> i got a gpg error
[01:38] <robotgeek> Eugman: you need to edit /etc/apach2/sites-enabled/your-sites-config-file
[01:38] <Stork> oh, okay
[01:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bunghole: Did you reconfigure xorg to use the nvidia module instead of nv?
[01:38] <Theflame> pezzi di merda
[01:38] <Theflame> rikkioniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:38] <Eugman> k
[01:38] <Theflame> hahhhah
[01:38] <torron> wee
[01:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Berg: yes
[01:38] <torron> auuahauhahuuahauhahaha
[01:38] <torron> porco dio
[01:38] <Theflame> vi ciulo le moglii
[01:38] <Theflame> hhahahahah
[01:38] <sushi> hohoho
[01:38] <torron> fatemi na pompa
[01:38] <Theflame> torron ci sei allo in ubuntu .it??
[01:38] <torron> auhahua
[01:38] <robotgeek> Eugman: Basically change the DocumentRoot/ create a symlink
[01:38] <torron> si
[01:38] <ompaul> !it
[01:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:39] <Theflame> vwnfo
[01:39] <iKernel> :D 265 meg file, download in 40 minutes
[01:39] <Sanne> bunghole: I also needed to install linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version)-nvidia-legacy and linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version) in addition to what the wiki said.
[01:39] <gnomefreak> bueller, gpg errors are ok they are just warnings for the most part
[01:39] <Berg> should I?
[01:39] <bueller> so my process to update libdvdread3 probably worked contrary to syntax?
[01:40] <Storkme> butcherbird, i did the sudo command, now there's no graphics at all :|
[01:40] <Eugman> That sentence is an oxymoron for me robotgeek. I am not well acquainted with symlinks.
[01:40] <robotgeek> Eugman: hmm, sorry.
[01:40] <drcurl> Hi
[01:40] <ompaul> Storkme, was that >>>>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<<
[01:40] <Eugman> np
[01:41] <drcurl> do some of you run the drapper drake colony 2?
[01:41] <B_166-ER-X> how can i know my Cpu temp?
[01:41] <Eugman> I've hard of them but know nothing about them
[01:41] <Storkme> ompaul, no it was "Stork: alt-ctrl-backspace? for sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:41] <bunghole> well i have to resort to using the nv drivers as apposed to nvidia
[01:41] <crimsun> B_166-ER-X: acpi -t  if yours is supported.
[01:41] <gnomefreak> drcurl, sure
[01:41] <butcherbird> Storkme: sorry work problems one sec
[01:41] <rambo3> put a termometer on CPU
[01:41] <bunghole> can i just build the kernel module myself and install it
[01:41] <bunghole> ?
[01:41] <bunghole> the debian way?
[01:41] <drcurl> gnomefreak, how os the speed improvment in gnome, noticable?
[01:41] <drcurl> how is
[01:41] <bunghole> or is that not recommended, because i've done everything the wiki said, but still nvidia module can't be found/loaded
[01:42] <Sanne> bunghole: did you see what I told you?
[01:42] <ompaul> Storkme, do >>sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start<< and then it should be there
[01:42] <B_166-ER-X> crimsun,  No support for device type: thermal , doesnt look like it :\
[01:42] <Storkme> ompaul, i did, it doesn't work
[01:42] <crimsun> B_166-ER-X: then you need to install lmsensors.
[01:42] <bunghole> Sanne: no i didin't
[01:42] <gnomefreak> drcurl, not really if it does become faster it wont be for a while
[01:42] <Storkme> ompaul, a nasty error lol
[01:42] <Sanne> bunghole: I said: I also needed to install linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version)-nvidia-legacy and linux-restricted-modules-(kernel-version) in addition to what the wiki said.
[01:42] <Unity> i can't play divx video the picture appears entirely black but the sound plays. which pacjage should i install? i already installed w32codecs
[01:43] <ompaul> Storkme, what is the laugh out loud about? - I would be a little concerned :)
[01:43] <bueller> sounds like unity and I are on the same task
[01:43] <drcurl> gnomefreak, but I read about the fact that it was starting faster and using less memory, these improvment aren't in drapper?
[01:43] <robotgeek> Eugman: in 'sudo ln -s /path/to/data_dir /var/www/mediawiki
[01:43] <gnomefreak> drcurl, you ask if they were noticable
[01:43] <Storkme> ompaul, i was messing with the xorg.conf file, how do i restore the backup one again?
[01:43] <drcurl> ok
[01:43] <bueller> where are w32codecs located?
[01:43] <bunghole> man, they are already the newest version
[01:44] <mwe> Storkme: you can't if you didn't make a backup
[01:44] <gnomefreak> drcurl, there is too many broken packages to tell if it is moving faster
[01:44] <drcurl> thanks for the info gnomefreak
[01:44] <drcurl> ok
[01:44] <flogiston> I'd like to know that to.
[01:44] <ompaul> Storkme, sudo >>>>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<
[01:44] <flogiston> The w32codecs.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:44] <Sanne> bunghole: ok, then I don't know, sorry.
[01:44] <ompaul> Storkme, that other command here are your options: Usage: /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}
[01:44] <B_166-ER-X> crimsun,  when i search for lmsensors , the only package it gives me is 'gdesklets-data' wich i have already installed...
[01:44] <mwe> Storkme: next time make a backup before messing with it
[01:45] <franky123> bueller: w32codecs are downloadable at an alternate location as a .deb. you can install them by typing dpkg -i w32codecs.deb
[01:45] <mwe> sudo dpkg -i
[01:45] <mwe> !w32codecs
[01:45] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:46] <Storkme> mwe, woot, i fixed it :)
[01:46] <bueller> frankly i was told in terminal that the package doesnt exist
[01:46] <ompaul> Storkme, na the command did :)
[01:46] <Storkme> mwe, it was because i changed my "nv" to "nvidia"
[01:46] <nalioth> bueller: you have to manually grab them
[01:46] <franky123> bueller: thats true. its not in the repositories
[01:46] <Storkme> ompaul, i did it manually with xorg.conf
[01:46] <mwe> Storkme: yeah
[01:46] <ompaul> Storkme, hehe
[01:46] <franky123> bueller: erm, the command line told you that it couldnt find them so as far as it knew they dindt exist
[01:46] <Storkme> i'm trying to get quake4 running natively on linux - it's hell
[01:47] <bueller> gotcha downloading now follwing the wiki frankly thanks
[01:48] <mwe> Storkme: at least if you dont have 3d acceleration working it is
[01:48] <jmhodges> ok, i used a2enmod rewrite and fcgid but they are not showing up as enabled in apache
[01:48] <Storkme> mwe, how can i get that working :) ?
[01:48] <kcantin> ok, let me ask this
[01:48] <ompaul> kcantin, we wait
[01:48] <kcantin> How do I download and install ssh and telent?
[01:48] <jmhodges> hmph, at least.. its not showing up in the little information part at the bottom of the page
[01:48] <mwe> Storkme: install and configure the driver for your card
[01:48] <jmhodges> what am i missing here?
[01:49] <Storkme> mwe, where from?
[01:49] <user__> r
[01:49] <gnomefreak> synaptic?
[01:49] <mwe> Storkme: it sounds like that's what you were trying to do
[01:49] <mwe> Storkme: what card do you have?
[01:49] <kcantin> I could probably work on this remotley if I could access this maching remotley
[01:49] <Storkme> well, i use an nvidia 6600GT
[01:49] <Storkme> geforce
[01:49] <mwe> !nvidia
[01:49] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:49] <Storkme> so i need nvidia-glx ?
[01:49] <butcherbird> kcantin: sudo apt-get install openssh-server not on ubuntu to check telnet server
[01:49] <mwe> Storkme: follow that
[01:49] <Sanne> kcantin: there's a nice chapter about ssh in the ubuntu starter guide that comes with breezy.
[01:49] <Storkme> mwe, thanks
[01:49] <tehdot> I was just wondering. I have a laptop with composite out, radeon mobility, and was wondering if anyone knew if DRI or any other OS drivers supported it
[01:49] <bueller> wow collectivley natural human beings are amazing...
[01:50] <franky123> kcantin: if you want to access an ubuntu machine from ssh i think you have to enable some option in it first ...
[01:50] <s3> algium brasileiro???
[01:50] <ompaul> !pl
[01:50] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[01:50] <franky123> s3: is that the same as algun espanol? "someone spanish" ? "someone brazilian" ?
[01:50] <ompaul> !pt
[01:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:50] <bueller> so the 10million shuttleworth gave to start the ubuntu non-profit is used to ship cd's?
[01:51] <mwe> tehdot: I think fglrx does. check out the docs at ati.com though
[01:51] <butcherbird> bueller: thats right we're trying to outdo aol in the coaster market
[01:51] <bunghole> is there a contrib or non-free for ubuntu in repos
[01:51] <ompaul> bueller, no it has also paid wages and stuff for a some staff to make things a little smoother in he background
[01:51] <Storkme> mwe, how do i know if my nvidia card is geforce1 or geforce2 or neither? on the box it just said geforce
[01:51] <kcantin> I have putty on a windows machine and I just ran "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell bunghole about easysource
[01:52] <mwe> Storkme: did you say geforce 6600?
[01:52] <ompaul> butcherbird, ehh sorry on that one only people who actually have an interest in the CDs and ask me for them after I talk about them get them
[01:52] <Storkme> mwe, yes, nvidia geforce 6600 GT
[01:52] <mwe> Storkme: I don't have a geforce but I believe that's geforce4
[01:53] <ompaul> butcherbird, of course they may not all actually do something productive with it
[01:53] <Storkme> mwe, oh, okay. thanks
[01:53] <mwe> who knows that?
[01:53] <Berg> yeah
[01:53] <Sanne> Storkme: 'lspci | grep -i geforce' might tell you whichone
[01:53] <Berg> I still need help
[01:53] <mwe> isn't geforce 6600 geforce4?
[01:53] <ubuntu__> is there frenchies ?
[01:53] <Eugman> sorry had to get the phone. Well it works, robotgeek, I just didn't do it exactly right for how I wanted.
[01:54] <bueller> hey so once you have installed a deb package from home can you safely delete the file
[01:54] <ompaul> Berg, what in particular do you need help with
[01:54] <ompaul> Berg, address the channel as I may not have the answer :)
[01:54] <Berg> I still need help with intalling my video cdriver
[01:54] <mwe> bueller: yeah
[01:54] <robotgeek> Eugman: i am no apache guru, i just noticed these things
[01:54] <Eugman> thanks I should be able to figure out the rest
[01:54] <Berg> I had someone else help me
[01:55] <Berg> mwe should know
[01:55] <mwe> Berg: what?
[01:55] <Storkme> mwe, when following that tutorial, i got an error ;\
[01:55] <Berg> mwe: who was helping me earlier?
[01:55] <mwe> Storkme: what error?
[01:55] <Berg> T something
[01:56] <Storkme> mwe, "Errorm your x config has been altered, this script cannot proceed automatically"
[01:56] <mwe> Storkme: what gives you that?
[01:56] <ompaul> Berg, look define the problem and what you have done in a single line and then press enter, wait for us to think and if we have an answer we can help
[01:56] <Storkme> mwe, when doing glx-config-enable
[01:56] <Berg> well it does not matter but I still need help with installing my video driver so I can change it
[01:56] <Storkme> "sudo nvidia-glx-config" enable
[01:57] <butcherbird> Storkme: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and try again
[01:57] <Berg> except the update for my driver came in a windows CD
[01:57] <mwe> Storkme: I don't know. ask someone with a geforce card, but I guess you should at least prefix the command with sudo
[01:57] <Berg> and I need something to use instead
[01:57] <Berg> :(
[01:57] <tafsen> Where can I find .xinitrc?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> dont look at me i have 2 ati cards and neither of them work in 3d
[01:58] <mwe> tafsen: in your homedir
[01:58] <gnomefreak> one i cant get to work at all :(
[01:58] <ompaul> Berg, what kind of video card?
[01:58] <kcantin> ok, I was able to ssh in to my ubuntu machine
[01:58] <B_166-ER-X> crimsun,  when i search for lmsensors , the only package it gives me is 'gdesklets-data' wich i have already installed...
[01:58] <kcantin> Can I remote desktop in to my ubuntu mahcine from a windows machine?
[01:58] <mwe> ompaul: intel extreme I think
[01:58] <Berg> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[01:58] <poningru> !sensor
[01:58] <ubotu> sensor is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[01:58] <crimsun> B_166-ER-X: lm-sensors
[01:59] <ompaul> mwe, ahh
[01:59] <dad> kcantin, no vbut you can VNC and VNC is freely avail
[01:59] <CanadianSnow> yo
[01:59] <mwe> Berg: weren't you gonna fix the resolution for starters?
[01:59] <Eugman> hey robotgeek, is there a way to check for symlinks?
[01:59] <kcantin> gotchya
[01:59] <Berg> yeah
[01:59] <ompaul> Berg, the only thing I can suggest to you is >>dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<<
[01:59] <Berg> but I cant
[01:59] <mwe> Berg: fix 3d later. first get 2d working right
[01:59] <kcantin> how do I download and install vnc on ubuntu?
[01:59] <Berg> right
[01:59] <mwe> ompaul: he did
[01:59] <ompaul> Berg, start that with sudo
[01:59] <Berg> when I use that ompaul
[02:00] <Berg> I have been doing so
[02:00] <robotgeek> Eugman: ls -l will show symlinks
[02:00] <mwe> ompaul: he did it already
[02:00] <mwe> ompaul: he needs to edit the xorg.conf file
[02:00] <Berg> but when it tells me if I want to write default DRI files for configuration in it it logs me off
[02:00] <dad> I think there's a package for it or you can find a windows d/l (there are many flaovors)  w/Google
[02:00] <Storkme> ompaul, hehe, i think you just like telling people to use dpkg-reconfigure :P
[02:01] <papaubuntu> kcantin: sudo apt-get install vncserver
[02:01] <ompaul> Storkme, /etc/init.d  is also a family favorite
[02:01] <papaubuntu> and
[02:01] <Storkme> OH MY GOD
[02:01] <Storkme> QUAKE4 WORKS
[02:01] <papaubuntu> sudo apt-get install vncviewer
[02:01] <Storkme> I LOVE YOU MWE AND OMPAUL
[02:01] <mwe> Storkme: lol
[02:01] <Berg> the ubuntu configuration is not working for me
[02:01] <ompaul> Storkme, ehh don't use capitals and now enjoy
[02:01] <Berg> I have tried multiple times
[02:01] <robotgeek> Storkme: typically, you buy them beer
[02:02] <Berg> everytime I end up in the DOS prompt
[02:02] <jared> AlbaLilian
[02:02] <mwe> Berg: can you get into the x windows at all?
[02:02] <poningru> rofl
[02:02] <Berg> yes
[02:02] <ompaul> Berg, ------------------------------------------------------------------
[02:02] <Berg> :(
[02:02] <mwe> Berg: but the resolution is wrong still?
[02:02] <Storkme> robotgeek, i'm underage :(
[02:02] <Berg> yes
[02:02] <ompaul> Berg, that is not a dos prompt
[02:02] <Berg> what is it?
[02:02] <robotgeek> Storkme: lol
[02:02] <Berg> it is black and looks like it
[02:02] <ompaul> Berg, that is a shell prompt
[02:02] <Berg> ok
[02:02] <mwe> Berg: what does the res need to be?
[02:02] <Berg> higher than this
[02:03] <mwe> Berg: what exactly?
[02:03] <ompaul> Berg, a bash shell prompt
[02:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:03] <dad> in kubuntu: can't get admin button to work on systems settings like Sharing, either no button appears or putting in the password when it DOES appear, doesn't seem to "take"
[02:03] <Berg> IDK....the normal size I guess
[02:03] <Storkme> i have a feeling the sound is messed up though
[02:03] <gnomefreak> bash shell prompt=unix  but shhhhhhhh
[02:03] <Eugman> !commands
[02:03] <ubotu> commands is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[02:03] <mwe> Berg: I think you're brave for a linux n00b not just quitting right away
[02:03] <Eugman> !symlink
[02:03] <ubotu> rumour has it, symlink is ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link
[02:03] <Berg> thanks
[02:04] <Storkme> ompaul, mwe: the sound is completely messed up on the game lol
[02:04] <mwe> Berg: is it a laptop?
[02:04] <Berg> windows was being a b**** so I decided to borrow linux from my friend and try it out
[02:04] <ompaul> Berg, just a sec - mwe talk him through pastbin the file
[02:04] <shooters> How could I set if ((grep - q "text" "filename.txt") == (NULL)) is true/false to a variable?
[02:04] <Berg> no its not
[02:04] <Berg> it is a dell inspiron(something)
[02:04] <Berg> desktop
[02:04] <gnomefreak> inspiron is a desktop?
[02:05] <Berg> something like that...IDK
[02:05] <Berg> its a DELL
[02:05] <mwe> Berg: ok. decide what resolution you want and well fix it. is the machine online?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> i thought that was laptop and dementin was the desktop
[02:05] <Berg> ok
[02:05] <Berg> 1080x whatever is appropriate
[02:05] <hydroksyde> How do I configure non-pnp ISA serial ports?
[02:05] <mwe> Berg: 1024x768
[02:05] <Berg> k
[02:05] <Berg> thats seems nice
[02:05] <mwe> Berg: is the machine on the internet?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> i use that too :)
[02:05] <Berg> yes
[02:06] <Berg> durr
[02:06] <pa_l> anyone who can tell if there is a good and easy to use alternative to Gftp?
[02:06] <bunghole> !mplayer
[02:06] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:06] <Berg> if it wasnt then I would not be on IRC
[02:06] <bshumate> shooters: that question would probably be best asked in #bash ;-)
[02:06] <mwe> Berg: do you think you can pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> Berg, more than one pc will allow you to do both
[02:06] <Berg> I guess
[02:06] <Berg> sry
[02:06] <mwe> Berg: you could be irc'ing from another machine :)
[02:06] <Sanne> pa_l: if you use KDE's konqueror, it's very nice for ftp.
[02:07] <Berg> well I said earlier but then again you would prolly not remember
[02:07] <B_166-ER-X> crimsun,  i installed lm-sensors, but it it stills No support for device type: thermal
[02:07] <mwe> Berg: anyway
[02:07] <Berg> so what do I do?
[02:07] <mwe> Berg: do you think you can pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:07] <Berg> dummy it down plz?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[02:07] <pa_l> Sanne: ok ill try it since GFtp works when it wants to work
[02:07] <mwe> Berg: you're not
[02:08] <Sanne> pa_l: yeah, I noticed that too
[02:08] <Berg> *gets
[02:08] <mwe> Berg: can you open a browser?
[02:08] <Berg> yes
[02:08] <mwe> !pastebin
[02:08] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:08] <kremonte> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ctrl+a ctrl+c goto pastebin ctrl+v? =P
[02:08] <Berg> I wrote it in
[02:08] <mwe> Berg: go there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:08] <Sanne> pa_l: basically you specify the ftp address in the location bar of konqueror, and when you're connected, you can set it as a bookmark.
[02:08] <Berg> done
[02:09] <B_166-ER-X> mwe , could you help ? i'm trying to find how to get my cpu Temp ?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !sensors
[02:09] <ubotu> I guess sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[02:09] <mwe> Berg: have you pasted the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:09] <Malachi> B_166-ER-X: I'm sure there is a gDesklet app
[02:09] <Berg> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[02:09] <Berg> #
[02:09] <Berg> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[02:09] <Berg> # values from the debconf database.
[02:09] <Berg> #
[02:09] <Berg> # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
[02:09] <Berg> # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[02:09] <kremonte> ahhh
[02:09] <mwe> Berg: not in her
[02:09] <Berg> #
[02:09] <Berg> # This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
[02:10] <Berg> # if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
[02:10] <Berg> # package.
[02:10] <B_166-ER-X> malachi , yeap, but they dont show anything
[02:10] <gnomefreak> not in her? lol
[02:10] <Berg> #
[02:10] <Berg> # If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
[02:10] <Berg> # again, run the following commands:
[02:10] <Sanne> Berg: STOP!!!
[02:10] <Berg> #
[02:10] <gnomefreak> Berg,  stop please
[02:10] <Berg> #   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[02:10] <Berg> #   sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[02:10] <Berg> #   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:10] <Berg> Section "Files"
[02:10] <ompaul> Berg, press CTRL + C
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"unix/:7100"			# local font server
[02:10] <Berg> 	# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
[02:10] <Malachi> B_166-ER-X: Hmm.....
[02:10] <hydroksyde> die Berg!!!!
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
[02:10] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <ompaul> Berg, press CTRL + C
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
[02:10] <Berg>         # paths to defoma fonts
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
[02:10] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-c
[02:10] <Berg> 	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
[02:10] <ompaul> mwe, stop
[02:10] <Berg> EndSection
[02:10] <Berg> Section "Module"
[02:10] <Berg> 	Load	"bitmap"
[02:10] <Berg> 	Load	"dbe"
[02:10] <Berg> 	Load	"ddc"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"dri"
[02:11] <mwe> !ops
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"extmod"
[02:11] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"freetype"
[02:11] <ompaul> Berg, press CTRL + C
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"glx"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"int10"
[02:11] <B_166-ER-X> !paste
[02:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"record"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"type1"
[02:11] <gnomefreak> i pmed him but no luck hes still going
[02:11] <Berg> 	Load	"vbe"
[02:11] <Berg> EndSection
[02:11] <iKernel> Tell me when he stops floding.
[02:11] <Berg> Section "InputDevice"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Driver		"keyboard"
[02:11] <kremonte> ahrhrhrgrgghghghghgg
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
[02:11] <iKernel> Just ignore him!
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
[02:11] <Berg> EndSection
[02:11] <Berg> Section "InputDevice"
[02:11] <Motoko-chan> ...
[02:11] <Berg> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[02:11] <robotgeek> !ops
[02:11] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[02:11] <Berg> 	Driver		"mouse"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[02:11] <kremonte> but then we don't know when he's not spamming :-(
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
[02:11] <Berg> EndSection
[02:11] <Motoko-chan> A bot would be handy...
[02:11] <robotgeek> nalioth: hellp!!
[02:11] <Berg> Section "Device"
[02:11] <Berg> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdal
[02:11] <mwe> Berg: stop it
[02:12] <Berg> oh
[02:12] <kremonte> yea
[02:12] <iKernel> kremonte: Well, one person will have to not ignore him.
[02:12] <Berg> -_-
[02:12] <gnomefreak> lol robotgeek
[02:12] <Berg> on what?
[02:12] <Berg> cp[y what?
[02:12] <mwe> Berg: freak
[02:12] <Berg> *copy
[02:12] <Motoko-chan> ...
[02:12] <Berg> no
[02:12] <ompaul> Berg, stop-
[02:12] <Berg> I pressed ctrl+c
[02:12] <mwe> Berg: don't paste in here
[02:12] <Berg> what should I copy
[02:12] <Motoko-chan> If that happens again, leave the channel to stop it.
[02:12] <Berg> >:(
[02:12] <Berg> done
[02:12] <ompaul> Berg, it is a matter of whhere
[02:12] <kremonte> Berg: you realize you just spammed us a good deal =P
[02:12] <mwe> Berg: use pastebin
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Berg, you got very very lucky you didnt get banned :(
[02:12] <ompaul> Berg, you never EVER paste in a channel
[02:12] <ompaul> !paste
[02:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:12] <Berg> I was not the one saying press ctrl+c
[02:12] <mwe> Berg: you could have been banned for that
[02:12] <bshumate> !tell Berg about pastebin
[02:12] <Berg> sry
[02:13] <ColonelPanique> !tell Berg about crackhead
[02:13] <Berg> lol?
[02:13] <ompaul> Berg, read that and then paste your file there on the pastebin
[02:13] <ompaul> Berg, is it a web page for stuff like that
[02:13] <kcantin> Ok, I got vnc and ssh working thank you for all of your help!!
[02:14] <Berg> OK..I am waiting for it to load
[02:14] <Berg> my internet is hella slow since I installed ubuntu
[02:14] <mwe> Berg: why the heck did you paste it in here? :)
[02:14] <Berg> IDK
[02:14] <tafsen> Anyone here that knows openBOX?
[02:14] <bueller> hiya ubuntu new error it a one liner can i post here?
[02:15] <iKernel> System lag!!
[02:15] <mwe> Berg: I guess you're forgiven. lucky the ops weren't in a bad moode
[02:15] <mwe> Berg: post the url to the paste here
[02:15] <gnomefreak> bad mood they werent even looking
[02:15] <Berg> its named my comp
[02:15] <iKernel> this shouldn't happen. I have three windows open.
[02:15] <Berg> wait a sec
[02:15] <Berg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6711
[02:15] <bueller> i did the restricted rformats wiki still no dvd real stuff and java now working flawlessly though
[02:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: I guess not. he would have been banned
[02:16] <gnomefreak> mwe, fast too
[02:16] <Coleenie> what
[02:16] <hydroksyde> does anyone know how to get Non PnP ISA serial ports/modems to work in ubuntu???
[02:16] <pa_l> Sanne: would i be able to upload files?
[02:16] <Coleenie> no
[02:16] <Coleenie> y?
[02:16] <Coleenie> whats your name
[02:16] <Coleenie> ??????
[02:16] <robotgeek> tafsen: what do you need with openbox?
[02:16] <Coleenie> hello
[02:16] <hydroksyde> who are you speaking to?
[02:16] <Coleenie> what
[02:16] <iKernel> Coleenie: Who are you talking to?
[02:16] <hydroksyde> Coleenie, who are you speaking to?
[02:16] <Sanne> pa_l: yes, just like local files.
[02:16] <Coleenie> nvm
[02:16] <gnude> Help: I need binutils for a new application I'm installing ... is there one binutils for all of Ubuntu or one for every program??
[02:17] <crimsun> !info binutils
[02:17] <duende> gnude, is it a binary package or a source distribution?
[02:17] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think the bot should autokick and give a warning when people paste
[02:17] <Sanne> pa_l: best is using a view profile with two panes side by side.
[02:17] <gnomefreak> build-essential has binutils or you can just sudo apt-get binutils
[02:17] <iKernel> !info coreutils
[02:17] <gnude> duende, it's sources ... what do I do ??
[02:17] <Berg> sry
[02:17] <Berg> I have posted the pastebin
[02:17] <gnomefreak> mwe,  i agree
[02:17] <Berg> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6711
[02:17] <iKernel> !info
[02:17] <gnomefreak> berg we saw
[02:17] <Berg> ok
[02:18] <Berg> so now what?
[02:18] <pa_l> oki thanks Sanne
[02:18] <iKernel> !info ''
[02:18] <crimsun> !info binutils dapper
[02:18] <ubotu> binutils: (The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.16.1cvs20051214-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1589 kB, Installed size: 6956 kB
[02:18] <gnomefreak> im not sure but it looks better than mine did :(
[02:18] <gnude> mwe, I didn't paste! just type a lot
[02:18] <pa_l> Now i will be able to upload my projects without stops ;)
[02:18] <gnude> crimsun,  what's dapper?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> unstable
[02:18] <crimsun> gnude: it's the devel version.
[02:18] <mwe> gnude: ?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> dapper is ubuntu 6.04 set to be released in april :)
[02:19] <gnude> iKernel, I can't get anything with !info
[02:19] <mwe> gnude: I didn't mention you :)
[02:19] <ompaul> gnomefreak, the 20th of April
[02:19] <Sanne> pa_l: one thing: the konaueror in breezy is kinda dumbed down, no view profiles and such. Should I go find the instructions on how to get the full power back? :)
[02:19] <gnude> mwe, just new to irc, want to be po po lite.
[02:19] <mwe> Berg: did you try restarting X and see if the res is fixed?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul
[02:19] <Berg> yes
[02:19] <iKernel> gnude: Try !info aalib1
[02:19] <iKernel> !info aalib1
[02:19] <cubed> hello all
[02:19] <gnomefreak> gnude,  !info doesnt command the bot to do anything
[02:19] <tafsen> robotgeek: I need to make few programs autostart when I login... Like Gnome-panel and gdesklets, Can you help me?
[02:19] <iKernel> sif it doesn't exsit.
[02:19] <gnude> iKernel, what's aalibl?
[02:19] <bueller> wow exciting dvd now works!
[02:20] <iKernel> gnude: Not l, 1.
[02:20] <crimsun> it doesn't. We've already transitioned. It's libaa1.
[02:20] <pa_l> wtf Sanne it has stalled twice with konqueror too. is it a problem when uploading tar.gz files?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> cafuego, its like that now
[02:20] <crimsun> !info libaa1
[02:20] <gnude> gnomefreak,  what is the bot?
[02:20] <ompaul> cafuego, so put something in the bot to reply to that
[02:20] <cafuego> gnomefreak: YOU MEAN IT'S OUT NOW!?!
[02:20] <iKernel> !info libaa1
[02:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gnude about you
[02:20] <Sanne> pa_l: not that I know of.
[02:20] <mwe> Berg: restart x windows
[02:20] <iKernel> !info libaa1
[02:20] <ompaul> !bot
[02:20] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:20] <Berg> I dont have windows anymore
[02:20] <bueller> ok how can i get ubuntu to make peace everlasting in the world?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> cafuego, no i mean everyone wants it now
[02:20] <crimsun> bot's db needs to be refreshed.
[02:20] <iKernel> !info libaa1 now you silly bot!!!
[02:20] <iKernel> :(
[02:21] <gnomefreak> !libaa1
[02:21] <ubotu> I don't know, gnomefreak
[02:21] <mwe> Berg: lol
[02:21] <cubed> Quick question (I hope).  I just installed Ubuntu and everything seems to be working fine.  Only problem is PS/2 mouse is not working.  Touchpad (laptop) works fine.  Anyone have any ideas how to resolve this issue.
[02:21] <Sanne> pa_l: sometimes you need to configure active/passive ftp, depends on the ftp server, I believe.
[02:21] <pa_l> ok
[02:21] <robotgeek> tafsen: http://icculus.org/openbox/faq.php
[02:21] <iKernel> cubed: Yeah. Reboot with the mouse in.
[02:21] <mwe> Berg: the grapichal server of linux, the window manager
[02:21] <cafuego> !dapper
[02:21] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[02:21] <gnude> cafuego,  what's !dapper mean?
[02:21] <Berg> where is that?
[02:22] <cubed> iKernel, ok I will give that a shot, but it was pluged in durring install and first boot up.
[02:22] <iKernel> gnude: ! is a way of passing an arguement to the bot.
[02:22] <cafuego> gnude: No, it's not mean.
[02:22] <iKernel> cubed: Don't try it then.
[02:22] <gnomefreak> can we add "USE IT AND LOSE IT!!!!!!!"???
[02:22] <ompaul> gnude, the ! is to summon the ot the word after it means explain that word (arguement)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> lol sorry had to
[02:22] <bueller> any good audio production progs for ubuntu?
[02:22] <cafuego> gnomefreak: I would, but it works fine(-ish) ;-)
[02:23] <iKernel> !meow
[02:23] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, iKernel
[02:23] <pa_l> how do i configure it Sanne, i want to upload by project backup its critical
[02:23] <gnude> ompaul, what's the bot?
[02:23] <mwe> Berg: press ctrl-alt-backspace. warning it closes everything and restarts the window manager
[02:23] <gnomefreak> cafuego, i had OOo issues and locales issues
[02:23] <iKernel> !sif
[02:23] <ubotu> iKernel: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:23] <iKernel> !no
[02:23] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[02:23] <iKernel> !lol
[02:23] <ubotu> I heard lol is "laugh out loud", or really annoying when used as punctuation
[02:23] <gnomefreak> the OOo issues i couldnt find way around to save my life
[02:23] <Sanne> pa_l: I'm looking for it, just a minute...
[02:23] <iKernel> !sif
[02:23] <ompaul> gnude, a database that talks to the channel via the name ubotu
[02:23] <gnomefreak> the locales was bit easy
[02:23] <ompaul> iKernel, dont play with the bot
[02:23] <redhook> ubotu: lol == lamers on line
[02:23] <ubotu> redhook: Are you smoking crack?
[02:23] <mwe> do you need to restart gdm after editing xorg.conf for changes to take effect?
[02:23] <iKernel> ompaul: Why not?
[02:23] <gnude> ompaul,  you're kidding right?
[02:23] <redhook> mwe: yes
[02:24] <cafuego> gnomefreak: there we go
[02:24] <ompaul> gnude, no
[02:24] <gnomefreak> mwe, more than likely
[02:24] <iKernel> !leet
[02:24] <ubotu> iKernel: What?
[02:24] <iKernel> !ubotu
[02:24] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:24] <ajmitch> iKernel: stop playing with the bot
[02:24] <redhook> mwe: or just ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:24] <cafuego> gnomefreak: They got sorted in yesterdays update, no?
[02:24] <gnude> ubotu, are you reaLL?
[02:24] <ubotu> gnude: What?
[02:24] <iKernel> ajmitch: sorry ok
[02:24] <kremonte> how do i update my "locate" cache?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> cafuego, i got rid of it yesterday :(
[02:24] <gnude> ubotu, are you a person or machine?
[02:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, gnude
[02:24] <redhook> kremonte: updatedb
[02:24] <kremonte> thanks
[02:24] <mwe> redhook: are you sure? you don't need to go to the console and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart?
[02:24] <ompaul> gnude, it is a machine -
[02:24] <cafuego> gnude: Stop playing with the bot.
[02:25] <cafuego> kremonte: 'sudo updatedb' actually.
[02:25] <redhook> mwe: you just need to restart X
[02:25] <gnomefreak> i put winxp on here for school :(
[02:25] <gnude> cafuego, this is blowing my mind, it's someone messing with me ... !
[02:25] <redhook> mwe: ctrl|alt|backspace restarts X
[02:25] <kremonte> yup, slowly but surely updating
[02:25] <cafuego> gnude: No, ubotu is a perl script with a mysql database. Nothing else.
[02:25] <ompaul> gnude, it is not it is a well written computer progam with a huge database read the URL
[02:25] <cafuego> gnude: You can play with him via /msg if you need to.
[02:25] <gnude> cafuego, so I can ! to get answers out of it?
[02:26] <gnude> cafuego, I'll try to do that!
[02:26] <cafuego> gnude: Go and have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:26] <cafuego> gnude: it documents the most common commands
[02:26] <Sanne> pa_l: If you have KDE control center, go to internet&Network/Connection Preferences. There's FTP Options for passive mode.
[02:26] <gnude> cafuego, do all irc channels have an ubotu?
[02:26] <mwe> redhook: I guess I got poor Berg locked out or something by making him press ctrl-alt-bs after editing xorg.conf. he didn't come back :)
[02:26] <ompaul> no
[02:27] <pa_l> Sanne iam currently using gnome, i will go over to KDE wait a min.
[02:27] <cafuego> gnude: No. ubotu is on a few ubuntu-related channels. Others channels may have a different bot running the same software, though.
[02:28] <tafsen> robotgeek: I neither have a .xinitrc file or a .xsession file =\ What does that mean?
[02:28] <kremonte> to add things to gnome session start, go to System -> Preferences -> Session, tafsen
[02:28] <B_166-ER-X> !paste
[02:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:29] <robotgeek> tafsen: how are u using openbox, in gnome or standalone?
[02:29] <Storkme> now that i can game, ubuntu owns :)
[02:29] <ompaul> cafuego, what is the message the bot factoid?
[02:29] <Hobbsee> !tell ompaul about msgthebot
[02:29] <ompaul> Storkme, that is slightly better than the way you were talking last nigh
[02:29] <B_166-ER-X> if someone is good with things about 'sensors'  i wonder whats my problem /what to do next.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6712
[02:30] <tafsen> robotgeek: I installed openbox trough apt-get and I chose OpenBOX when I logged on.
[02:30] <ompaul> Hobbsee, I was thinking more for our new friends
[02:30] <ompaul> :-)
[02:30] <cafuego> !msg the bot
[02:30] <Hobbsee> !+msgthebot
[02:30] <ubotu> well, msgthebot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know know whether some factoid exists.)
[02:30] <tafsen> robotgeek: using Ubuntu 5.10
[02:30] <ompaul> thats the one
[02:30] <robotgeek> tafsen: hmm, okay
[02:30] <Berg> alright
[02:30] <Berg> so what should I do in window manager?
[02:31] <ompaul> Berg, try ctrl+alt++ see if you get the fonts you want
[02:31] <robotgeek> cafuego: i tht !lart was removed?
[02:31] <Berg> ctrl+alt+what?
[02:31] <ompaul> Berg, you can cycle through that
[02:31] <gnude> iKernel, what is binutils?
[02:31] <ompaul> Berg, plus
[02:31] <netstar> does grub need anything loading into the mBR like lilo, or just edit menu.lst?
[02:31] <pa_l> Sanne iam using KDE now, where did you say i should go into?
[02:32] <iKernel> gnude: Lemme give binutils to ubotu
[02:32] <Berg> nothing whith ctrl+alt++
[02:32] <tafsen> robotgeek: Does that make any sence? :P
[02:32] <gnude> iKernel,  should I query the bot in a minute or what?
[02:32] <Berg> should I just unintall this OS and go back to windows where I belong?
[02:32] <robotgeek> tafsen: yes, it does
[02:32] <Sanne> pa_l: an aside: you were gone so quickly, you could just have staerted kcontrol, or even access the settings from the konqueror sidebar (just so you know)
[02:32] <iKernel> !binutils
[02:32] <ubotu> it has been said that binutils is the GNU binary utilities (BFD development files)
[02:33] <iKernel> there you go.
[02:33] <Sanne> pa_l: go to Internet&Network/Connection Preferences. There's FTP Options for passive mode.
[02:33] <Berg> should I?
[02:33] <Berg> or is linux THAT much....
[02:33] <gnude> iKernel,  how did you get that into ubotu ??
[02:33] <Berg> is linux worth it in the end?
[02:33] <iKernel> gnude: Not telling :D
[02:33] <kremonte> hm. wierd. at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage , there's ubotu forum <topic id>. it seem's that's been replaced
[02:33] <Sanne> Berg: yes!
[02:33] <tafsen> robotgeek: you know what to do then?
[02:33] <kremonte> functionality still there and someone just broke it?
[02:33] <ompaul> Berg, no, it is worth it from the beginning :)
[02:33] <Sanne> ompaul: right :)
[02:33] <robotgeek> tafsen: i'm looking :)
[02:33] <Berg> so goodbye
[02:34] <ompaul> Berg, where exactly city wise are you on planet earth
[02:34] <gnude> iKernel,  Okay, but are you an Ubuntu owner or something, or can anyone brainwash the bot?
[02:34] <cafuego> kremonte: Maybe disabled, certainly not replaced.
[02:34] <Berg> Osceola WI
[02:34] <punkass> is there a specific dapper irc room for ubuntu?
[02:34] <iKernel> gnude: Not telling :D
[02:34] <Berg> originally from Iceland
[02:34] <ompaul> Berg, what is WI please remember we do not all understand that shorthand
[02:34] <Berg> Wisconsin
[02:34] <cafuego> gnude: Ubotu is a like a wiki, anyone can make changes. (The changes are logged though)
[02:34] <Berg> sry
[02:35] <tafsen> robotgeek: Ok :) thx
[02:35] <pa_l> ok Sanne what next. i can see File sharing
[02:35] <gnude> cafuego,  thx ... still readin tutotial.  thx
[02:35] <ompaul> Berg, it is worth it I want to hook you up with your local lug and then you can most likely get some one local to help you over the starting bumps
[02:35] <Sanne> pa_l: where are you now?
[02:35] <kremonte> cafuego: well if someone overwrote the forum command, how to get the functionality back? =P
[02:35] <kremonte> !forum
[02:35] <ubotu> it has been said that forum is the ubuntu web forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:35] <Berg> what is so much better about linux for the average CPU user?
[02:35] <kremonte> Berg: lots? heh :-)
[02:35] <pa_l> Kcontrol, Internet & Networking and Filesharing
[02:35] <Berg> like what?
[02:36] <kremonte> it's all free?
[02:36] <Berg> well....I can always use limewire
[02:36] <cafuego> Berg: it doesn't get infected with adware and spyware within 30 seconds of first bootup.
[02:36] <tafsen> I got this(error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[02:36] <tafsen> )  error when I tried to install something with Python, any idea of what's wrong?
[02:36] <kremonte> Berg: windows + limewire?
[02:36] <Berg> thats why we have firewalls
[02:36] <kremonte> piracy is not legal
[02:36] <cafuego> Berg: Nor do yuo have to pay $100 a year to make sure it doesn't happen.
[02:36] <Berg> fine
[02:36] <cafuego> Berg: The windows firewall is shit and others cost money.
[02:36] <pa_l> Sanne in connection preference you said passive mode?
[02:36] <Berg> well is there a chance I can get local help?
[02:36] <Sanne> pa_l: on my kcontrol, I have "Internet & Network", and the first option under that is "Connection Preferences". That's what we want.
[02:37] <Sanne> pa_l: yes
[02:37] <kremonte> $200 for windows, and 90% of the software is proprietary, while there is very few pieces of pay-to-use software on linux
[02:37] <robotgeek> tafsen: sorry, i dunno the answer right now
[02:37] <iKernel> And if you want to know what gnu is...
[02:37] <Berg> could geeksquad help?
[02:37] <pa_l> passive mode is already enabled same is mark partially upload
[02:37] <iKernel> !gnu
[02:37] <ubotu> from memory, gnu is an ancronym for GNU's Not UNIX. It is an organization devoted to the creation and support of Open Source software.
[02:37] <cafuego> Berg: Many people don't mind; I do.
[02:37] <robotgeek> tafsen: /etc/gdm/Sessions/openbox maybe
[02:37] <Berg> mind what?
[02:37] <Berg> paying?
[02:37] <Berg> yeah I guess
[02:37] <cafuego> Berg: needlessly paying.
[02:38] <Sanne> pa_l: please state my nich when replying, otherwise I might miss what you say.
[02:38] <kremonte> from asking around locally, most people i seem to encounter think, #1 computers are expensive business, and #2 adware/spyware/virii are a fact of life
[02:38] <Sanne> pa_l: try with passive mode disabled.
[02:38] <ompaul> Berg, are these locations any where near you? http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms?&cc=US&rc=WI
[02:38] <pa_l> Sanne sorrt for that, what now?
[02:38] <Sanne> pa_l: try with passive mode disabled.
[02:38] <Unity> i can't play divx video the picture appears entirely black but the sound plays. which pacjage should i install? i already installed w32codecs
[02:38] <Berg> well does linux have an X to .mp4 converter?
[02:38] <Berg> can it play my games?
[02:39] <tafsen> robotgeek: nope =\ only PostSession and PreSession :(
[02:39] <kremonte> Berg:  yes
[02:39] <kremonte> most
[02:39] <kremonte> http://appdb.winehq.com/
[02:39] <gnude> !newlib
[02:39] <ubotu> gnude: Wish i knew
[02:39] <robotgeek> tafsen: hmm, sorry i am quite lost. i havent changed stuff in a while
[02:39] <Berg> how can it play americas army?
[02:39] <cafuego> Berg: Would you play WIndows games on a Mac?
[02:39] <robotgeek> tafsen: i use openbox, but in Gnome
[02:39] <Berg> no
[02:39] <cafuego> Berg: Would you expect them to work?
[02:39] <Berg> on
[02:39] <Berg> no
[02:39] <cafuego> Well then.
[02:40] <Sanne> Berg: americas army is native for Linux, iirc.
[02:40] <cafuego> (Yes, Linux *can* play your game and yes, it *does* do mp4 ;-)
[02:40] <Berg> kewl
[02:40] <tafsen> robotgeek: how can I use openbox in gnome? and will it improve the speed?
[02:40] <kremonte> if you aren't ready for linux's learning curve then i wouldn't quite be expecting to play bleeding edge windows games
[02:40] <robotgeek> tafsen: yes, it does imporove the speed
[02:40] <Berg> so maybe if I find linux help locally I should just use that
[02:40] <cafuego> Berg: For windoze games there's a cedega (not free, but cheaper than windows!)
[02:40] <kremonte> cvscedega ;-)
[02:40] <Berg> what is a cedega?
[02:40] <ompaul> Berg, did you check the url I gave? was it any use?
[02:40] <cafuego> !cedega
[02:41] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[02:41] <Berg> no I dont think so
[02:41] <Unity> cafuego: cedega isn't perfect
[02:41] <ompaul> Berg, are these locations any where near you? http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms?&cc=US&rc=WI
[02:41] <Berg> could you check minnesota?
[02:41] <tafsen> robotgeek: ok :) maybee I just do it your way then =) How do I do it? :P
[02:41] <cafuego> Unity: No, but at least it doesn't hijack your machine with pr0nspam ;-)
[02:41] <ompaul> is there
[02:41] <gnude> !toggle tabs in mozilla
[02:41] <ubotu> gnude: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:41] <Unity> cafuego: even after a lot of configuration, some games just wont work
[02:41] <Berg> I live like close to the border of the two
[02:41] <kremonte> yup
[02:42] <pa_l> Sanne its  stalling again. i should try another  ftp program
[02:42] <cafuego> Unity: Well, like I said: Would you expect to run windoze games on macos?
[02:42] <pa_l> does firefox have one?
[02:42] <kremonte> Unity: that's when you bug the devs for linux port!
[02:42] <ompaul> Berg, have a look at that http://lugww.counter.li.org/groups.cms?&cc=US&rc=MN
[02:42] <kremonte> pa_l: FireFTP is an extension for firefox
[02:42] <robotgeek> tafsen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239&highlight=openbox
[02:42] <Unity> we neeed to reverse engineer a whole bunch of games into linux code
[02:42] <Sanne> pa_l: hmmm, maybe the problem is on the server side? There's "ftp" on the command line, if you're up to that, though...
[02:42] <ompaul> !tell gnude about msgthebot
[02:42] <Berg> yep
[02:42] <Berg> close enough
[02:42] <Berg> about a 1hr ride
[02:42] <Berg> or less
[02:42] <kremonte> i fixed msgthebot to have <reply> =P
[02:42] <ompaul> gnude, read the msg from the bot
[02:43] <Berg> so I should bring my computer there?
[02:43] <ompaul> Berg, mail them and talk to them
[02:43] <kremonte> Berg:  what problem are you having in the first place, may i ask?
[02:43] <Berg> video card trouble
[02:43] <kremonte> ah
[02:43] <tafsen> robotgeek: thx
[02:43] <ompaul> Berg, what size monitor have you got?
[02:44] <pa_l> Thanks anyway Sanne
[02:44] <Sanne> paddel: you're wel... dang
[02:44] <Berg> IDK around 24 inches up
[02:45] <Sanne> paddel: sorry
[02:45] <Unity> what are some of the most cpu-intensive games that aro in the repos? like quake2?
[02:45] <iKernel> !spam
[02:45] <netstar> have msttcorefonts been disabled?
[02:45] <iKernel> !info spam
[02:45] <netstar> "Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:45] <netstar> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:45] <netstar> is only available from another source
[02:45] <netstar> "
[02:46] <ompaul> iKernel, message the bot please we don't need it to tell us
[02:46] <iKernel> :D
[02:46] <Sanne> netstar: it's in multiverse
[02:46] <Unity> netstar: don1t paste here!
[02:46] <Berg> so let me get this straight...I should contact this person who IDK at ALL and then have them help me?
[02:46] <nalioth> netstar: please read the /topic (and use a pastebin for pasting)
[02:46] <Berg> personallu
[02:46] <netstar> Sanne, I see.
[02:46] <netstar> thanks
[02:46] <Berg> personally
[02:46] <Sanne> netstar: you're welcome
[02:46] <Berg> I dont think my dad will let me do that -_-
[02:46] <ompaul> netstar, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:47] <ompaul> Berg, so you ask your dad to contact them for you he can take control of the conversation
[02:47] <kremonte> Berg: i am 14 =P
[02:47] <Hobbsee> !tell netstar about msttcorefonts
[02:47] <cafuego> Stop making me feel old.
[02:48] <cafuego> Or I'll spank you.
[02:48] <kremonte> oh, not at all
[02:48] <Unity> i'm eight!
[02:48] <Berg> I know my parents well enough that I know they will NEVER agree with iths
[02:48] <Berg> this
[02:48] <kremonte> i'm a young wabbit
[02:48] <ompaul> cafuego, you are only a youngster
[02:48] <cafuego> Berg: Oh come on, you cna trust an unshaven stranger...
[02:48] <Unity> where do i go to get help on the quake2 port? beacuse i am getting this error when i do `quake2` in a shell: Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[02:48] <Berg> -_-
[02:49] <Berg> "unshaven"?
[02:49] <IdleOne> anybody know how to get java working on ppc?
[02:49] <cafuego> ompaul: I can remember the 70's mate - not that I'm particularly happy about that ;-)
[02:49] <ompaul> cafuego, :)
[02:49] <Berg> lol
[02:49] <cafuego> IdleOne: IBM have a jre/j2sdk 1.5 preview (bit buggy still)
[02:49] <ompaul> cafuego, I was alive when JFK was shot
[02:50] <cafuego> ompaul: is that a confession?
[02:50] <kremonte> i was alive when CLINTON was prez!!!!
[02:50] <kremonte> wewt
[02:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell IdleOne about javedebs
[02:50] <Sanne> Berg: another possibility is, find the info on the net and read everything you can get your hands on (the ubuntu wiki is a good start). You *can* teach yourself using Linux. I did once.
[02:50] <nalioth> !offtopic
[02:50] <ubotu> somebody said offtopic was Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:50] <Berg> o rly?
[02:50] <IdleOne> nalioth tried the javadebs it doesnt work :|
[02:50] <ompaul> nalioth, ack
[02:50] <Berg> well its just one of those things that I will learn in time
[02:50] <_Antar_> hey guys
[02:50] <_Antar_> i have a question
[02:50] <_Antar_> right quick
[02:50] <Berg> but honestly
[02:50] <Sanne> Berg: and I'm a girl, even ;)
[02:50] <Berg> could the geeksquad help me?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell IdleOne about java
[02:51] <Berg> I am going to bestbuy tomorrow
[02:51] <Berg> getting a new router
[02:51] <Berg> :D
[02:51] <nalioth> IdleOne: if you read the info ubotu sent, there are java debs for ppc
[02:51] <kremonte> what problem are you having with your graphics card, anyhow?
[02:51] <Berg> I cant install it
[02:51] <Berg> -_-\
[02:51] <_Antar_> Since I have installed and removed KDE my root windows look realy ugly in Gnome
[02:51] <dfgas> how do i import a sql file into a database?
[02:51] <kremonte> why not? =S
[02:51] <_Antar_> they used to fallow the theme i was runing
[02:51] <Berg> complicated
[02:51] <_Antar_> but now they are all ugly gtk themes
[02:51] <kremonte> don't know how, physically?
[02:51] <dfgas> how do i import a sql file into a database? brand new database because of new install
[02:52] <Sanne> dfgas: if it's mysql, you can use phpmyadmin for that.
[02:52] <kremonte> well, depends what you want to learn with linux ;)
[02:52] <kremonte> the local bestbuy's geeksquad is pretty clueless about linux
[02:52] <Berg> are they only windows or do they work all around?
[02:52] <kremonte> i think there's like, one person who uses mandriva
[02:52] <kremonte> and that's about it ><
[02:52] <cafuego> !start a language war
[02:52] <Berg> oh
[02:52] <ubotu> bahasa is far more elegant than german
[02:52] <nalioth> Berg: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:53] <iKernel> :( Ubotu asked me if I am on ritilan. So what if I am? >:(
[02:53] <cafuego> iKernel: Then you have bad/irresponsible parents.
[02:53] <Sanne> dfgas: there's also a shell command for that, but I don't know offhand. Try man mysql.
[02:53] <gnomefreak> iKernel, feel lucky im always on crack to ubotu :(
[02:54] <ompaul> iKernel, please your keep your conversation with ubotu confidential
[02:54] <Sanne> every language is more elegant than german :(
[02:54] <iKernel> cafuego: Sorry, you're dead wrong. I'd have bad/irresponsible parents if i WASN'T on ritalin.
[02:54] <_Antar_> who are my root windows ugly now?
[02:54] <kremonte> nein!
[02:54] <Sanne> doch! ;)
[02:54] <kremonte> i don't even know what doch means :-(
[02:54] <ompaul> !de
[02:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:54] <kremonte> woohoo, half my open apps just crashed
[02:55] <Sanne> kremonte: something like "on the contrary, with a vengance" ;)
[02:55] <nalioth> iKernel: Sanne: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:55] <Sanne> sorry
[02:55] <tafsen> robotgeek: How do I get the OpenBOX menu?
[02:55] <iKernel> ompaul: Ok.
[02:55] <robotgeek> tafsen: right click?
[02:55] <cupOcocoa> Synaptic couldn't stat my repo's :'(
[02:55] <robotgeek> tafsen: oh, you are using gnome, right? you need to disable nautilus drawing root windows
[02:56] <mase_> wheres the kernel source located? its not in /usr/src/
[02:56] <ompaul> cupOcocoa, is there a second synaptic open?
[02:56] <tafsen> robotgeek: ohh...
[02:56] <cupOcocoa> nope
[02:56] <rhythminmind> what base packages do i need to install to configure apps from source?
[02:56] <SweetestSavage> Can someone explain why this HTTP Cache Cleaner randomly runs every now and then? It's rather annoying..
[02:57] <robotgeek> SweetestSavage: good question, i want to know why too :)
[02:57] <ompaul> cupOcocoa, paste you /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then tell me the url please
[02:57] <kremonte> any idea what the monitors are in this ss? (top left, mid-right) http://icculus.org/openbox/shots/full/cronos.jpg
[02:57] <cafuego> rhythminmind: build-essential at a minimum. Any depends for said package too. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[02:57] <Sanne> dfgas: oh, here it is (in man mysql):  mysql  database < backup-file.sql
[02:57] <bradley_> help!!! ;)
[02:57] <ompaul> !anyone
[02:57] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:58] <bradley_> i can't connect to the web using my ubuntu box...
[02:58] <bradley_> i have a network and all other boxers are working...
[02:58] <esiqueira> hi there
[02:58] <ompaul> bradley_, what kind of network connection has it got?
[02:58] <bradley_> cable
[02:58] <maple-techie> does anyone here know about ubuntu?
[02:59] <Berginator> .action is about to reinstall windows
[02:59] <Berginator> so long and thanks for all the fish
[02:59] <iKernel> Should I use the kernel framebuffer device?
[02:59] <ompaul> bradley_, from the menu >>system adminstartion networking<<
[02:59] <SweetestSavage> Berginator.. heh, are you suggesting the Linux world is about to explode? ;)
[02:59] <gnomefreak> iKernel, yes
[02:59] <Berginator> yes
[02:59] <kremonte> any idea what the monitors are in this ss? (top left, mid-right) http://icculus.org/openbox/shots/full/cronos.jpg
[02:59] <Berginator> maybe I will meet you in 20 years
[02:59] <iKernel> gnomefreak: For 3D gaming?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> it says yes unless you have problems with it lol
[02:59] <Berginator> then I can MAYBE handle the awesome power of linux
[02:59] <bradley_> got it
[02:59] <iKernel> ok
[02:59] <ompaul> !tell maple-techie about ask
[03:00] <ompaul> maple-techie, read the message from the bot
[03:00] <tafsen> robotgeek: How do I make the "openbox --replace" permently?
[03:00] <robotgeek> tafsen: i have it start in my sessions, System -> Preferences -> sessions
[03:01] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:01] <bradley_> now...
[03:01] <cupOcocoa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6713
[03:01] <Madpilot> hi all
[03:01] <cupOcocoa> here it is...
[03:02] <cyphase> is the dapper installer going to have a GUI option?
[03:02] <woodgrain> is there a stock developer kit for ubuntu?
[03:02] <cyphase> and if so, are there any screenshots?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> cupOcocoa, remove the # infront of the deb://http
[03:02] <IdleOne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6714  can someone look at that and tell me what my next step should be?
[03:02] <woodgrain> Ubuntu doesn't come with gcc, does it?
[03:02] <dutch> good night all
[03:02] <gnomefreak> cyphase, dapper installer is pretty much the same as breezy
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell woodgrain about gcc
[03:03] <cyphase> wasn't there talk about a GUI installer?
[03:03] <cyphase> or was that for dapper+1?
[03:03] <woodgrain> gnomefreak,  why is gcc not inc w/ ubuntu
[03:03] <ompaul> cupOcocoa, that works from here - I wonder would you care to try this in a web browser >>>http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/<<
[03:03] <gnomefreak> cyphase, what would you call the breezy installer? and if not gui seeing as dapper has 4 months to go it might
[03:04] <crimsun> because it's a desktop distro, not a devel distro.
[03:04] <crimsun> install build-essential if you want them.
[03:04] <cyphase> woodgrain, just install it
[03:04] <gnomefreak> woodgrain, it is look in synaptic search for gcc
[03:04] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:04] <cyphase> or synaptic
[03:04] <SweetestSavage> cyphase, he meant why isn't it pre-installed
[03:04] <cyphase> yea, i know
[03:04] <linlin> sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[03:04] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, cyphase, I already installed gcc -- WHY is it left out of the OS?
[03:04] <cupOcocoa> ompaul, whats i do with it?
[03:04] <cyphase> woodgrain, because most people don't use it
[03:04] <TokenBad> how compile c file on ubuntu?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> gcc4.9 is installed by default but gcc base is not becaused its used to compile
[03:05] <ompaul> woodgrain, it is not left out, it is just not installed as part of the base
[03:05] <gnomefreak> 4.0
[03:05] <woodgrain> TokenBad, get gcc !!!
[03:05] <TokenBad> I have gcc
[03:05] <woodgrain> ompaul, why not a part of base/
[03:05] <ompaul> cupOcocoa, put it in a web browser
[03:05] <gnomefreak> TokenBad, sudo apt-get build-essential
[03:05] <cyphase> woodgrain, because most people don't use it
[03:05] <cupOcocoa> lol
[03:05] <TokenBad> I have gcc but how use it to compile a c file?
[03:05] <Malachi> woodgrain, sudo apt-get build-essential
[03:05] <woodgrain> ompaul, I heard there were a class of 'self-compiling' viruses that use gcc ... any truth?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> woodgrain, other than compiling you wont need gcc for anything
[03:06] <ompaul> woodgrain, if you need it you will get it rather quickly but most people who use linux don;t want it
[03:06] <linlin> gcc sourcefile -o binaryfile
[03:06] <Unity> did anyone install quake2 and discover that colormap.pcx doesn't exist?
[03:06] <cyphase> woodgrain, not everyone is a developer, and not everyone develops in language that use gcc
[03:06] <IdleOne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6714  can someone look at that and tell me what my next step should be? please
[03:06] <cyphase> like python
[03:06] <gnomefreak> sourcefile = file.c binaryfile =file
[03:07] <cupOcocoa> well synaptic is being nice now, thanks...
[03:07] <woodgrain> cyphase, or ARM assembly!
[03:07] <ompaul> woodgrain, yeah Linux users :-0 they are a virus according to some company in redmond :) and no I never head of such a beastie
[03:07] <woodgrain> ompaul, I heard this (ianm) from ubuntu users on an electronics IRC.
[03:07] <ompaul> woodgrain, got a reference point for it?
[03:07] <woodgrain> ompaul,  long ago.
[03:08] <chmod775> !new
[03:08] <ubotu> chmod775: Wish i knew
[03:08] <ompaul> woodgrain, well I guess it ain't come to pass that I know of
[03:08] <B_166-ER-X> how do i install a .deb ?
[03:08] <ompaul> !tell IdleOne about java
[03:08] <woodgrain> ompaul, THE POWER OF FEAR -- it gets us all sometimes.
[03:09] <chmod775> !wine
[03:09] <cyphase> B-166-ER-Xsudo dpkg -i package.deb
[03:09] <cyphase> oops
[03:09] <cyphase> B-166-ER-X, sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[03:09] <ompaul> IdleOne, that message from the bot will give you useful info for what you are trying to do
[03:09] <woodgrain> ompaul, how many people are using ubunt?  I love this shnizzy.
[03:09] <chmod775> !!art
[03:09] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chmod775
[03:09] <chmod775> !rt
[03:09] <ubotu> chmod775: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:09] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[03:09] <tafsen> !art
[03:09] <ompaul> woodgrain, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, art is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityArtwork
[03:09] <chmod775> !gnome-art
[03:09] <ubotu> chmod775: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:09] <tafsen> :P
[03:10] <chmod775> ;PPPPPPPPPPP
[03:11] <indigo> i have a question: I've gotten my bluetooth dongle working, and I see my mouse when i run 'hcitool scan' (actually it just worked by default :) ), but it stops short of moving the pointer on the screen. I think it might be because I need a pin to pair with the mouse, or something. Anyone know what I might try next?
[03:11] <rhythminmind> anyone know why i would be getting a (    urb status -79  ) what i try to shutdown or reboot... it's only doing thing after i installed my new nvida card... i did a clean install and same thing
[03:11] <rhythminmind> what = when
[03:12] <bradley_> can i reset my connection somehow? a repair connection in windows?
[03:12] <indigo> rhythminmind: i don't have an nvidia card, but I do have an nforce motherboard, and i was getting the same thing
[03:12] <rhythminmind> bradley - network-admin
[03:13] <rhythminmind> it's weird it worked fine with the ati card
[03:13] <indigo> rhythminmind: i think it went away when i upgraded my kernel to 2.6.14-3, but i reboot so rarely i'm not sure :)
[03:13] <IdleOne> ompaul,  thank for the info but I have tried and keep getting an error
[03:13] <bradley_> i deactivated my conection and then reactivated it... still no luck
[03:13] <rhythminmind> everything else works great
[03:13] <rhythminmind> but i cant reboot
[03:14] <ompaul> ohh well
[03:14] <baubba> Hello everyone, I've installed ubuntu as my workstation/standalone samba server. I have a samba domain server working fine. I've installed the samba repsitory from samba.org, and updated samba. I've installed webmin, and swat. My problem is that I like to use swat inplace of webmin's version of Samba administrator. If I log on to swat (through webmin) using my user name, I can't configure samba, I don't get all the icons. I think I need to log i
[03:14] <baubba> n as root. Is there a work around this
[03:15] <chmod775> !ubotu
[03:15] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:15] <rhythminmind> i unfortunately have to switch back to XP on a dual boot for my audio production work.. but i'm in ubuntu for everyday use
[03:16] <chmod775> !file auto.msc
[03:16] <j2daosh> hello again everyone. as usual i have another question (what a shock huh?). how do i fix a "broken package"? i tried using the fix broken package option in synaptic but it didn't work and i have been unable to figure out how to get the w32codecs
[03:16] <misfit_toy> !w32codecs
[03:16] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:16] <chmod775> hey does anyone know how to control the services loaded at startup
[03:16] <chmod775> ?
[03:16] <chmod775> hey does anyone know how to control the services loaded at startup
[03:16] <chmod775> ?
[03:17] <Eleaf> hi
[03:17] <Eleaf> lol
[03:17] <punkass> you can use BUM if believe
[03:17] <chmod775> what
[03:17] <punkass> BootUpManager
[03:17] <chmod775> ?
[03:17] <punkass> its in synaptic
[03:17] <Sanne> chmod775: or services-admin, or rcconf, or sysv-rc-conf
[03:17] <chmod775> is there any other package installed by default
[03:17] <Eleaf> Does anybody know how to change the ubuntu image at boot?
[03:17] <Eleaf> = )
[03:17] <netstar> is there anyway to install xchat 2.6 without building from source?
[03:17] <Sanne> chmod775: you have the services-admin somewhere from the panel.
[03:17] <punkass> well as Sanne said there is the command line stuff, but if you want a simple gui BUM works
[03:18] <misfit_toy> Eleaf, there is a howto at http://ubuntuforums.org
[03:18] <Malachi> Would anyone happen to have the mozilla-mplayer deb file?
[03:18] <rhythminmind> chmod - init.d or use webmin as a gui
[03:18] <Malachi> Debian's down at the moment...
[03:19] <woodgrain> Malachi, what is build-essential?
[03:19] <Sanne> Malachi: mozilla-mplayer is in multiverse
[03:19] <Kindred> has anyone mounted shared memory to /dev/shm .. i'm wondering if it is normal to need to do this..
[03:20] <Malachi> Sanne: Oh...didn't know that ;)
[03:20] <j2daosh> transcode: Depends: libfame-0.9 but it is not going to be installed
[03:20] <j2daosh> ....that is the problem i seem to keep encountering anytime i try to get anything that concerns a nonfree codec... how do i fix that
[03:20] <Sanne> Malachi: :)
[03:20] <chmod775> how do I speed up the bootup in ubuntu
[03:20] <chmod775> it's a bit slow
[03:20] <Malachi> woodgrain: build-essential is a collections of developing tools, like gcc
[03:20] <Malachi> woodgrain: It's *essential* for compiling source
[03:21] <woodgrain> Malachi, does it inc. gcc and all or is it sep?
[03:21] <shadeofgrey> okay guys
[03:21] <chmod775> how do I see which file delongs to which package
[03:21] <chmod775> ?
[03:21] <Eleaf> misfit_toy, oooewww lol
[03:21] <shadeofgrey> i need help on this one...  i JUST bought a new usb2.0 hub for my desk
[03:22] <jenda> chmod775: Have a look at the forum (for the boot process)
[03:22] <chmod775> in redhat ur have the option rpm -qf
[03:22] <shadeofgrey> and for the first two days it worked flawlessly
[03:22] <robotgeek> chmod775: dpkg -S <file>
[03:22] <chmod775> !boot
[03:22] <ubotu> chmod775: I give up, what is it?
[03:22] <Eleaf> misfit_toy, just somewhere randomly on the forum eh?
[03:22] <j2daosh> i have a broken package contained in the libfame-0.9 but i dont know how to fix it... or even uninstall it and fix it for that matter.
[03:22] <shadeofgrey>  but now, every time i insert my 512 meg usb drive, it doesnt get hit by hotrplug and show up on the desktop anymore
[03:22] <crimsun> j2daosh: remove the package.
[03:23] <shadeofgrey> how do i troubleshoot thgis?  ive never EVER seen ubuntu NOT recognise a USB device before
[03:23] <Malachi> Sanne: It won't install...does it not like my version of Mplayer?
[03:23] <Malachi> Sanne: mplayer itself isn't in there.
[03:23] <chmod775> robotgeek, not working ?
[03:23] <j2daosh> also... i have excess keys in my sources list that apparantly aren't correct or aren't needed because anything i do a sudo apt-get install/upgrade it gives me errors about my keys... how do i take those keys out or upgrade them?
[03:23] <Eleaf> misfit_toy, ?
[03:24] <rhythminmind> shadeofgrey - do you see it in disks-admin?
[03:24] <Malachi> woodgrain: it's all in there, along with a bunch of other stuff.
[03:24] <rhythminmind> is it just not mounted?
[03:24] <misfit_toy> Eleaf, let me use minutes of my life to make SEARCHING easier for you, please hold.
[03:24] <shadeofgrey> ryth:  yes
[03:24] <j2daosh> crimsun, but if i remove the package how am i supposed to reinstall? i get errors saying the package is also located in another package and im not trying to have my programs messed up because i accidently depeted a dependency
[03:24] <shadeofgrey> rhythminmind:  yes
[03:24] <Eleaf> misfit_toy, I'll figure it out myself
[03:24] <j2daosh> by jenda
[03:25] <woodgrain> Malachi, that rules ... does it default to unstable?
[03:25] <jenda-zZz> night j2daosh :)
[03:25] <Eleaf> I found how to change the color misfit_toy  lol
[03:25] <crimsun> j2daosh: if you use ``apt-get remove foo'' to remove the package foo, it removes dependencies automatically
[03:25] <misfit_toy> Eleaf, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835&highlight=boot+image
[03:25] <rhythminmind> ok well lck on the partition and pick a folder to mount it in... like /media/usbdrive
[03:25] <Malachi> woodgrain: Don't think so, but don't quote me on that.
[03:25] <rhythminmind> pick
[03:25] <rhythminmind> then click enable
[03:25] <bradley_> do i need to adjust any settings under hosts?
[03:26] <Eleaf> misfit_toy, = )  You get a celery stick as a reward.  Thanks
[03:26] <j2daosh> but the thing is crimsun i dont want to delete a package if other programs depend on it also. then i will not only have one broken package but also broken programs and the like... correct?
[03:26] <shadeofgrey> i can see it from the disks area of administration
[03:26] <shadeofgrey> but it wont pop up on the desktop or anything
[03:26] <shadeofgrey> andit worked flawlessly a few days ago
[03:26] <Malachi> How do you uninstall a program you've compiled?
[03:26] <misfit_toy> Eleaf, it's ok, I have a bottle of wine, I never had a celery stick in my life and I'm not starting now.
[03:26] <Sanne> Malachi: I see mplayer-* in Synaptic (* = 386, 686 etc). I haven't installed it yet, so I'm afraid I won't be able to help further, sorry.
[03:26] <j2daosh> shade... u need to add it to your fstab and then you can do a sudo mount
[03:27] <shadeofgrey> and as far as i can tell my system hasnt changed at all as far as config files are concerned or anything
[03:27] <woodgrain> does anyone here run ubuntu on ARM7 platforms?
[03:27] <sethk> shadeofgrey, sounds like you mucked up your automounting
[03:27] <j2daosh> or if it is in your fstab just try a sudo mount -a
[03:27] <Eleaf> misfit_toy, are you serious?
[03:27] <Eleaf> =p
[03:27] <shadeofgrey> sethk:  how is a problem like that resolved?
[03:27] <Eleaf> misfit_toy, enjoy!
[03:27] <shadeofgrey> i really have to get this working NOW
[03:27] <misfit_toy> Eleaf, the only time I've even seen a celery stick was in a bloody mary, and I hate those.
[03:27] <shadeofgrey> i have to fedex my 600 page manuscript to my new agent by 8am tomorrow
[03:28] <sethk> shadeofgrey, just mount it by hand, instead of it automounting
[03:28] <shadeofgrey> and the usb drive is the only place i have the final draft pn
[03:28] <vegalabs> anyone use tetex with languages other than english?
[03:28] <shadeofgrey> sthk:  how do i accomplisdh that?
[03:28] <sethk> shadeofgrey, mount it using mount from the command line
[03:28] <rhythminmind> well just browse it from disks-admin and copy it over locally
[03:28] <Malachi> Sanne: Are you sure? It's not in mine....
[03:28] <Sanne> Malachi: I will update, sec
[03:28] <xenox> hello
[03:28] <Malachi> Sanne: Both Multi and Universe are installed....still don't see it.
[03:29] <shadeofgrey> what would the command be assuming the drive was marked /dev/sdc?
[03:29] <sethk> shadeofgrey, mounting it?  if it is in fstab, all you have to do is   mount /media/usbdisk
[03:29] <xenox> i'm a new ubunt user
[03:29] <sethk> shadeofgrey, if it isn't in fstab I'll tell you how, but check first
[03:29] <xenox> and i have some problems :-(
[03:29] <Sanne> Malachi: yes, I've got them. Let me check my sources.list.
[03:29] <sethk> shadeofgrey, probably it isn't, so...
[03:29] <j2daosh> shadeofgrey, sudo vi /etc/fstab .... add /dev/sda1 (tab) /media/USB (tab) vfat (tab) defaults (tab) 0 (tab) 0
[03:29] <IdleOne> !javadebs
[03:29] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:30] <j2daosh> dont put the tabs in
[03:30] <sethk> shadeofgrey, you'll do   mount -t whatever /dev/sda1 /some/mount/point
[03:30] <shadeofgrey> how do i check fstab?  iuve never used that before
[03:30] <sethk> shadeofgrey, forget that, automounts don't go in there, so forget I mentioned it
[03:30] <shadeofgrey> okay
[03:30] <sethk> shadeofgrey, the -t whatever depends on how it is formatted
[03:30] <sethk> shadeofgrey, e.g.   mount -t vfat3 /dev/sdc1 /media/usbdisk
[03:31] <sethk> shadeofgrey, the directory can be any empty directory, but /media/usbdisk is where mine gets automounted so you probably have that directory
[03:31] <mase_> !java
[03:31] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:31] <mase_> !javadebs
[03:31] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:32] <Sanne> Malachi: nothing extraordinary in my sources.list
[03:32] <Malachi> Hmm.....
[03:32] <xenox> if i try to edit my xorg.conf. and i want to save with ":ws" comes the error msg "E319: Der Befehl ist in dieser Version nicht implementiert ". can anyone help me?
[03:32] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to know how many bandwidth i'm using on ubuntu ?
[03:32] <rhythminmind> auto apt is great... thanks
[03:32] <Malachi> Sanne: I only see mozilla-mplayer....
[03:32] <hydroksyde> is there any way of connecting/disconnecting a PPP connection other that system-administration-networking?
[03:33] <Sanne> Malachi: I'll paste my sources.list, sec
[03:34] <tr011> hi! i all ready installed the mozilla-mplayer plugin, but it's not working, when i'm try to open a video, it always sendme the download window, how can i do this plugin work? (ubuntu 5.10)
[03:34] <Sanne> Malachi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6719
[03:34] <punkass> on boot up where would the ipw2200 module be called from?
[03:35] <xenox> how can i save changes on my xorg.conf????
[03:35] <robotgeek> punkass: /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
[03:35] <j2daosh> ok dangit... crimsun, you said eariler something about deleting the package with apt-get remove foo... how does that work? commandwise? sudo apt-get remove foo libfame-0.9?
[03:35] <Malachi> Sanne: You're right....
[03:35] <punkass> robotgeek: yes that is the module but what calls it to load?
[03:35] <Sanne> Malachi: I am?
[03:36] <Malachi> Sanne: I don't know what the problem is, then...
[03:36] <Malachi> Sanne: I don't see anything I don't have...
[03:36] <punkass> Malachi, foo just stands for any package name
[03:36] <Malachi> Sanne: Except the CD
[03:36] <robotgeek> punkass: modprobe ipw2200
[03:36] <xeno> hey is anyone able to help me up setting up a laptop with 915resolution?
[03:37] <Sanne> Malachi: can't be the cd, because multiverse is not on it
[03:37] <crimsun> j2daosh: s/foo//
[03:37] <j2daosh> say wha?
[03:37] <punkass> rebotgeek, ok what i want to do is on boot up somewhere ipw2200 gets called, what i want is to havce ipw2200 led=1 called instead
[03:37] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to know how many bandwidth i'm using on ubuntu ? like my 'total speed' right now  -live- ?
[03:37] <maino82> has anyone else had problems getting sendmail to actually send mail? like from a cgi email form or using php's built in functions?
[03:37] <punkass> xeno, sure how far along are ya
[03:38] <xeno> punkass, i have 915installed and under root i used the command 915resolution 38 1280 800, then i added it to /etc/init.d/boot.local but it didnt' work at bot
[03:39] <punkass> what did you add to boot.local?
[03:39] <ajmitch> xeno: becaus eyou have to add it to /etc/default/915resolution
[03:39] <xeno> i just deleted it because it didint' work
[03:39] <xeno> but i think it was usr/sbin/915resolution 38 1280 800
[03:39] <PMantis> What firewall config tools are recommended for a laptop install? Firestarter isn't good enough for my use.
[03:39] <punkass> ajmitch, i tried using the default file and it wasnt working for me i created my own init
[03:39] <ajmitch> xeno: don't do that then :)
[03:39] <xeno> do i have to create some kind of script to run boot.local at startup?
[03:39] <ajmitch> punkass: worked for me, I setup this laptop yesterday
[03:40] <punkass> ajmitch: breezy or dapper?
[03:40] <ajmitch> dapper
[03:40] <Steve|> hey guys, when i was trying to install a driver on ubuntu, i read the readme and i told me to type "make menuconfig" but i don't any kernal sources apparently..... so how would i go abouts installing this driver (i'm new to the whole linux thing)
[03:40] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error any help please?
[03:40] <punkass> interesting, didnt work for me...ah well ill do a reinstall when flight3 is out
[03:40] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6720
[03:40] <xeno> ajmitch, how do i get 915resolution to work at boot?
[03:40] <IdleOne> !javadebs
[03:40] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:41] <IdleOne> !java
[03:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:41] <j2daosh> what was that command crimsun?
[03:41] <ajmitch> xeno: are you using the deb from dapper? if so, it reads /etc/default/915resolution at boot
[03:41] <xeno> im using breezy
[03:41] <PMantis> Steve|, Normally, you'll have to have the "kernel headers" installed, then patch the Makefile to include the new code. turn it on with "make menuconfig" then "make" to compile, etc.
[03:42] <Steve|> yeah it says i have no c compiler
[03:42] <PMantis> Steve|, Install gcc
[03:42] <ajmitch> xeno: is that package in breezy?
[03:42] <Steve|> PMantis: how do i do that and where can i get it?
[03:42] <PMantis> Steve|, sudo apt-get install gcc
[03:42] <xeno> ajmitch, no i had to get 915resolution-0.5-1 debian package
[03:42] <_jason> Steve|, install the build-essential package, it will give you gcc and other stuff you need to build
[03:43] <ajmitch> xeno: that's your problem then
[03:43] <Steve|> _jason: how?
[03:43] <xeno> ajmitch,  how should i set this up then
[03:43] <ajmitch> xeno: the debian package won't start 915resolution early enough
[03:43] <PMantis> _jason, Ahhh, dependencies... nice
[03:43] <xeno> ajmitch, how do i set it up so it does then
[03:43] <Sanne> Steve|: are you sure you need to start off with compiling kernel modules? Which driver is it? Maybe you just need to load the module that is already present?
[03:43] <Eleaf> lol
[03:43] <Steve|> Sanne: atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2
[03:43] <PMantis> Steve|, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:43] <_jason> Steve|, you can use synaptic to search for it if you want, or: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:44] <mlalkaka> what's the difference between linux-headers and linux-source? i know that the linux-headers packages only provide the header files of the linux-source. but when would you use linux-headers and when would you use linux-source?
[03:44] <CSeymour> i have the dumbest question ever... on Mac OS X, how do i get the Ubuntu 5.10 Live CD to boot?
[03:44] <ajmitch> xeno: get the package from dapper instead, or rename the file in /etc/rc2.d so that it's S12915resolution
[03:44] <tafsen> robotgeek: do you use feh?
[03:44] <Steve|> _jason and PMantis: does that require an internet connection or anything? because at the moment i'm on my windows partition and i'm trying to install my wireless lan card on ubuntu
[03:45] <xeno> ajmitch, how do i rename it in /etc/rc2.d
[03:45] <punkass> xeno: what i did was created a file called  /etc/init/run915 and in it put: #!/bin/sh
[03:45] <punkass> /usr/sbin/915resolution 5c 1280 800
[03:45] <Rusczyk> Alguien habla espaol aqui?
[03:45] <_jason> Steve|, it should be available through the cd
[03:45] <Steve|> ah ok
[03:45] <Sanne> Steve|: ah, for wlan... don't have it, but this seems to be a situation where you might need to compile. Ok, I just wanted to make sure you won't go through this unnecessarily, since you're new.
[03:45] <punkass> xeno: then did a  ln -s /etc/init/run915 /etc/rcS.d/S40run915
[03:45] <Steve|> i see, thanks
[03:45] <HomeDawg> Does anyone know what would cause "No directory, logging in with HOME=/" to occur?
[03:45] <punkass> xeno: whether thats the right way or not i am not sure, but it works for me
[03:46] <lapucky> hmmm... I've got an ISO with corrupt packages (more than one) and I've already installd from it.  Is there a simple way to check the integrity of all installed packages without finding an official checksum for each on the Internet?
[03:46] <xeno> punkass, im so lost to as how that would work
[03:46] <tafsen> anyone here that knows Feh?
[03:46] <PMantis> Firestarter doesn't seem to work for dual NIC systems (LAN and WLAN). Any ideas for my laptop?
[03:46] <punkass> xeno: hehe
[03:46] <lapucky> (and I all out of blank media -- for a while -- too)
[03:46] <chmod775> what is transparency in gdeslkets
[03:46] <chmod775> ?
[03:47] <Steve|> thanks guys, i'll just see if i can get access to a laptop so i can talk on here and fix up the ubuntu on this machine
[03:47] <mlalkaka> CSeymour, in order to get a computer to boot from a CD, the OS installed doesn't make a difference. all you have to do is put the CD in your cd-rom drive, and restart your computer. if that does not work, then you need to access your bios and change a setting so that your computer checks the cd-rom drive for a bootable CD.
[03:47] <chmod775> will the the whol desktop appear transarent
[03:47] <xeno> punkass, what i did was wget the package, and then dpkg it then i can just run 915resolution -l list my modes, change it to 1280x800 and im stuck there
[03:47] <greenwom> hey how do you install conflicting packages like Opera and Amarok
[03:47] <PMantis> Steve|, Good luck!!
[03:47] <ajmitch> punkass: only do that if you want to leave a number of messy files around :)
[03:47] <lapucky> What if I were to d/l the ISO w/o burning it and run diff vs. the damaged DVD?
[03:48] <HomeDawg> Does anyone know what would cause "No directory, logging in with HOME=/" to occur?
[03:48] <j2daosh> !pastebin
[03:48] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:48] <punkass> xeno: ajmitch..well at the time it was the only way i could get it to work right
[03:48] <tafsen> anyone here that knows Feh? plz need some help
[03:48] <chmod775> !gdesklets
[03:48] <ubotu> gDeslets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefuleness Homepage is hhtp://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[03:48] <tafsen> !feh
[03:48] <ubotu> tafsen: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:49] <ajmitch> punkass: the debian version starts at S20 in rc2.d, iirc
[03:49] <chmod775> !goodies
[03:49] <ubotu> chmod775: I give up, what is it?
[03:49] <ajmitch> punkass: for dapper it needs to be S12
[03:49] <Knowerrors> anyone know where to get libdivxdecore0 for ubuntu?
[03:49] <bustacap> I am getting this error when I try to test my WPA setup - ENGINE: ctrl cmd_string failed: LOAD (null) [error:25066067:DSO support routines:DLFCN_LOAD:could not load the shared library] 
[03:49] <bustacap> has anyone seen this before?
[03:49] <j2daosh> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6721  can u explain which package i need to delete and which one i need to install? i just want the w32codecs...
[03:49] <punkass> ajmitch...well i am still running it from S40 in dapper and its workin fine
[03:50] <mlalkaka> what's the difference between linux-headers and linux-source? i know that the linux-headers packages only provide the header files of the linux-source. but when would you use linux-headers and when would you use linux-source?
[03:50] <bustacap> the error is followed by SSL: Failed to initialize TLS context.
[03:50] <ajmitch> punkass: that's because you have it in rcS.d instead
[03:50] <punkass> ah right
[03:51] <Sanne> mlalkaka: for compiling kernel modules, the headers are mostly sufficient. If you want to build your own kernel, you need the source.
[03:51] <chmod775> hey transparency in gdekslets
[03:51] <xeno> punkass, check pm
[03:51] <chmod775> need composite manager
[03:52] <chmod775> how can I install it ?
[03:52] <HomeDawg> What would cause 'no directory, logging in with HOME=/'
[03:52] <julio> hi
[03:52] <chmod775> hey transparency in gdekslets
[03:52] <autocrosser> apt-get xcompmgr
[03:52] <chmod775> how can I install it ?
[03:52] <greenwom> how do you install conflicting packages like Opera and Amarok, they want to uninstall eachother
[03:53] <julio> i downloaded the UNRAR.. but when i click in the UNRAR in the folder /rar/ the ubuntu doesnt does anything
[03:53] <mlalkaka> Sanne, thanks for your help. i want to compile/install the spca50x module for my webcam, but i didn't want to install the whole kernel source unless i absolutely had to.
[03:53] <autocrosser> chmod775--look at the forums for vista effects
[03:53] <chmod775> how
[03:53] <chmod775> ?
[03:53] <_jason> julio, are you attempting to install unrar so you can extract files from a .rar archive?
[03:53] <chmod775> xcompmgr is ask for a libcomposite
[03:53] <julio> yes!
[03:53] <chmod775> how do I install that
[03:53] <chmod775> what is the package name
[03:54] <s10case> Does anyone know if older versions of ubuntu are still getting much in the way of new packages?
[03:54] <autocrosser> then synaptic it
[03:54] <_jason> julio, there is a package called unrar-nonfree that will let you do that
[03:54] <julio> how jason? i cant understand
[03:54] <bustacap> has anyone got WPA running using the Prism54 driver?
[03:54] <_jason> julio, are you comfortable with using synaptic to install packages?
[03:54] <s10case> or are new releases just done on the current version?
[03:54] <Sanne> mlalkaka: if it's a kernel module, the headers might work. Is there a readme somewhere with the package? Most times it is stated what's necessary to compile.
[03:55] <autocrosser> bye!
[03:55] <julio> yes.. but i need extract my Pro Evolution Soccer 5.rar
[03:55] <_jason> julio, have you enabled multiverse?
[03:55] <bustacap> as opposed to Pro Creationism Soccer 6 :D
[03:55] <slew> is there a program for linux thats like quicken?
[03:55] <mlalkaka> Sanne, the readme says that you need to have the source, but it also says it doesn't modify it. so i'm guessing the headers will still work.
[03:55] <julio> i dont know what is it!
[03:55] <Sanne> s10case: the stable versions of ubuntu got no new releases of software, only bug fixes and security updates.
[03:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell julio about repos
[03:55] <KeeganX> Hey everyone when I click to Direct Connect with people using GAIM, it never works.  Is it cause AIM can't connect with GAIM, or is it a windows and linux issue?
[03:56] <mlalkaka> j2daosh, i was looking at your paste, and it seems like you simply typed w32codecs package incorrectly.
[03:56] <Sanne> mlalkaka: yeah, seems so. I would try with the headers. You will see if it doesn't work ;)
[03:56] <julio> jeson
[03:56] <chmod775> can some tell me how to install libcomposite1
[03:56] <julio> jason
[03:56] <chmod775> it's is not there in the reps
[03:56] <chmod775> repos
[03:56] <julio> i only want know how can i do the UNRAR function
[03:57] <s10case> hey is firefox 1.5 available in breezy?
[03:57] <j2daosh> wha?! no...
[03:57] <KeeganX> s10case: yes
[03:57] <j2daosh> really?
[03:57] <chmod775> !firefox
[03:57] <_jason> julio 'unrar x <file>' I believe.  But if you have that installed. you can just double click on the rar file and it will open
[03:57] <s10case> chmod are you making fun of me?
[03:57] <CodenameKT>  anyone know a good pcmcia nic card that will run under ubuntu nicely
[03:57] <HomeDawg> anyone have an idea on this 'no directory, logging in with HOME=/'
[03:58] <j2daosh> mlalkaka, where did i go wrong?
[03:58] <_jason> HomeDawg, guessing-- maybe you home directory does not exist?
[03:58] <julio> yes
[03:58] <HomeDawg> it does
[03:58] <julio> but when i do it
[03:58] <bustacap> CodenameKT, wireless or wired?
[03:58] <s10case> excuse me for not spending all of my waking hours tracking what is going on  on ubuntu
[03:58] <julio> it doesnt does anything!
[03:58] <CodenameKT> I would like to do wired before wireless
[03:58] <j2daosh> and it was wrong why is my update manager beeping at me about updating the dang libfame-0.9
[03:58] <j2daosh> ?
[03:59] <CodenameKT> bustacap: u know a wireless one that works good?
[03:59] <Sanne> HomeDawg: I don't know, but sometimes you could have success by searching for the error message in google.
[03:59] <HomeDawg> i wouldnt be here if google had solved my problem
[03:59] <mlalkaka> j2daosh, on your first command (line 001) the error says that it no file "w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb" exists in the current working directory. have you downloaded the w32codecs package?
[03:59] <bustacap> CodenameKT, I am not sure off the top of my head, the first place to look would be tuxmobile.net
[03:59] <HomeDawg> so your smartass comments arent helping
[03:59] <_jason> HomeDawg, try to find out where the home directory is set and make sure it's pointing to the right place
[03:59] <xptest> julio have you looked in synaptic for rar, it is in mine and should do all you need
[04:00] <j2daosh> oh... no ignore that part... i didn't have it when i did that command
[04:00] <HomeDawg> _jason: its set and pointing to the right place, infact i've removed the account and tried to readd it
[04:00] <chmod775> bye!
[04:00] <bustacap> CodenameKT, sure do, I use the SMC2835W PCMCIA card
[04:00] <bustacap> works great..
[04:00] <HomeDawg> and im getting the exact same errors
[04:00] <CodenameKT> bustacap:thnx
[04:00] <bustacap> CodenameKT, but!
[04:00] <_jason> julio, you need to install 'unrar-nonfree'.  It is in multiverse.
[04:00] <bustacap> CodenameKT, the reason why I am on here at the moment is because I am trying to get WPA to be installed
[04:00] <j2daosh> ok gimme one second... i have to rerun something on a comp at work
[04:00] <Sanne> HomeDawg: if this is directed at me, I didn't mean to be a smartass. I really wanted to help. Did you try to surround the error message with double quotes in google? That might give more results.
[04:00] <CodenameKT> bustacap: Oh i see
[04:01] <bustacap> CodenameKT, WEP (encryption) works fine, but it is insecure :)
[04:01] <_jason> HomeDawg, where is that information actually set?  (I don't know)
[04:01] <HomeDawg> Sanne: Yes, I've tried that. Sorry about that.
[04:01] <HomeDawg> _jason: The home dir is set in /etc/passwd
[04:01] <Malachi> I'm having trouble installing mplayer. Does anyone know of a good deb?
[04:01] <julio> hm..
[04:01] <bustacap> CodenameKT, however, most PCMCIA wireless cards use the same chipset, so I will see how I go..
[04:01] <julio> ok jason
[04:01] <j2daosh> ok back... where do i get the w32codecs?
[04:01] <Sanne> HomeDawg: ok :)
[04:01] <mlalkaka> Malachi, mplayer is already in one of the ubuntu repositories
[04:02] <CodenameKT> bustacap: I share wireless as it is
[04:02] <Malachi> mlalkaka: I've already looked, couldn't find it.
[04:02] <HomeDawg> this is pretty wierd
[04:02] <bustacap> CodenameKT, by share, do you mean unencrypted?
[04:02] <HomeDawg> i've even removed the account and that should work fine if i readd it
[04:02] <mlalkaka> Malachi, have you included the universe and multiverse repositories?
[04:02] <slew> is there a program for linux thats like quicken?
[04:02] <mlalkaka> ubotu, tell Malachi about mplayer
[04:03] <jjcasten> um does anyone know if i can run my ipod on ubuntu
[04:03] <Malachi> mlalkaka: Yes, I have.
[04:03] <CodenameKT> bustacap: yes
[04:03] <jjcasten> yes
[04:03] <jjcasten> how
[04:03] <jjcasten> ?
[04:03] <j2daosh> nevermind... got them
[04:03] <julio> jason
[04:03] <mlalkaka> Malachi, hmm. that's weird. so there is not package with the word mplayer in it?
[04:03] <julio> i do what you say
[04:03] <Madpilot> !ipod
[04:03] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[04:03] <julio> but everything say how before
[04:04] <jjcasten> thank you
[04:04] <Malachi> mlalkaka: Nope.
[04:04] <jjcasten> !!!!!!!
[04:04] <ubotu> jjcasten: No idea
[04:04] <HomeDawg> hrm, so anyone else have any ideas? :x
[04:04] <_jason> julio, what about when you do
[04:04] <_jason> julio, 'unrar x /path/to/file'
[04:04] <Malachi> makario@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[04:04] <Malachi> Reading package lists... Done
[04:04] <Malachi> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:04] <Malachi> Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:04] <Malachi> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:05] <Malachi> is only available from another source
[04:05] <Malachi> E: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate
[04:05] <Malachi> mlalkaka: Don't know why....
[04:05] <tafsen> How can I make my NTFS disc automount everytime I start Ubunut? And how Can I make it readable for the regular user?
[04:05] <bustacap> you haven't enabled Universe or Multiverse repositories
[04:05] <Zen> yo
[04:05] <mlalkaka> Malachi, can you send me your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[04:05] <Malachi> Yeah...
[04:06] <Zen> I'm having a problem installing to my mirror--it shows up as two drives instead of one
[04:06] <stombi> Malachi: use http://pastebin.com/
[04:06] <mlalkaka> Malachi, yeah or just paste it somewhere. that's simpler
[04:07] <cafuego> Zen: highpoint or promise on-mobo "raid" ?
[04:07] <Malachi> mlalkaka, stombi, Mhmm, I know....
[04:07] <mase_> !webcam
[04:07] <ubotu> webcam is probably now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[04:07] <Zen> cafuego, same class of hardware--it's a silicon image 2-port card
[04:07] <IdleOne> !amsn
[04:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, amsn is at http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[04:07] <cafuego> Zen: Yeah, you ned to set up in-kernel software raid via the 'md' driver.
[04:07] <alekandr> Evening all :] 
[04:07] <tafsen> mase_: webcam is included in the newest aMsn
[04:08] <freelove> !sources
[04:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:08] <Zen> cafuego, how might I do this?  I'm intending to install linux to this mirror
[04:08] <mase_> tafsen: yeah i know... but installing YOURS is fucked up
[04:08] <cafuego> Zen: Ah ok, easy then. In the installer, when you are asked to partition, choose 'Manual' and then "Raid'
[04:09] <tafsen> mase_: YOURS?
[04:09] <Malachi> mlalkaka: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6722
[04:09] <cafuego> Zen: ... create a raid1 set, add partitions on both drives to it. (You'll need to create 'RAID" type partitions on both disks first.
[04:09] <alekandr> I was wondering if someone could help me momentarly, I cant see to get gedit to open via term, thus cannot modify my sources.list as root, and Login Screen Setup wont load, so I cant allow root login access :(
[04:09] <TheAsp> I'm trying to install breezy and when i reboot grub never comes up.
[04:09] <TheAsp> which is a problem :P
[04:09] <mase_> tafsen: yeah
[04:09] <mase_> tafsen:  my webcam so i can use it on linux
[04:09] <Zen> will they maintain in-tact when I'm in windows and it decides to do a "rebuild"?
[04:10] <cafuego> alekandr: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:10] <cafuego> Zen: Most likely not.
[04:10] <mlalkaka> Malachi, are you using Synaptic or apt-get to install packages?
[04:10] <Malachi> mlalkaka: I've tried both.
[04:11] <alekandr> cafuego: i did exactly that, entered password, nothing loaded or happened
[04:11] <cafuego> alekandr: Then you have brokenness.
[04:11] <stombi> Malachi: add multiverse to this line -> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe main restricted
[04:11] <alekandr> cafuego: :] 
[04:11] <mase_> grrrrrrrr can someone help me out here
[04:11] <mlalkaka> Malachi, did you do `apt-get update` before trying to install with apt-get?
[04:11] <Malachi> Yes.
[04:12] <Paradosso> has anybody got a banshee 0.9.8 .deb package please?
[04:12] <mase_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:12] <mase_>   gcc-4.0: Depends: gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) but 4.0.2-6 is to be installed
[04:12] <mase_> the thing keeps telling me THIS
[04:12] <Zen> cafuego, this presents a problem then--windows is installed to this mirror as well
[04:12] <mase_> but its already on newest version
[04:12] <mase_> so WTF?
[04:12] <Sanne> Malachi: maybe I'm just blind, but I can't see multiverse in your sources.list
[04:12] <mlalkaka> Malachi, i found the problem. you've added the universe repository. but not he multiverse repository
[04:12] <nalioth> mase_: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin
[04:13] <Malachi> Sanne: What?
[04:13] <mase_> nalioth: it was small, so :/
[04:13] <Malachi> Sanne: You're right again!!!
[04:13] <Sanne> Malachi: only for backports
[04:13] <Sanne> Malachi: hehe
[04:13] <Malachi> I've overlooked that about seven times now....
[04:13] <HomeDawg> hrm, so is there any way without formatting my computer to solve the problem?
[04:13] <nalioth> mase_: there are approximately 600 people in here. do you want a "it was small" from all of them? the /topic states "please use a pastebin"
[04:13] <mase_> so can anyone help..
[04:13] <HomeDawg> because this is rediculous, i've used many other distros for the past few years and never had a stupid problem like this
[04:13] <mase_> nalioth: not all 600 people are needing help at the same time.
[04:14] <nalioth> mase_: other ops will ban you for pasting, they will not speak. it IS in the /topic
[04:14] <HomeDawg> "No directory, logging in with HOME=/"
[04:14] <mase_> nor are all 600 looking at the chan
[04:14] <mase_> i just want some help......
[04:15] <nalioth> mase_: ask your question
[04:15] <purplefeltangel> i am getting a weird noise when i use mplayer in firefox. it's like this constant low blipping or thudding . . . i can't even describe it. but it's really annoying. anyone know what's going on?
[04:15] <mase_> i already did..
[04:15] <HomeDawg> maybe i'll just install gentoo again
[04:15] <HomeDawg> its community is far better and actually supports its users.
[04:15] <nalioth> mase_: i've not seen it, ask again please
[04:15] <kremonte> HomeDawg:  what?
[04:15] <_jason> purplefeltangel, does it happen with regular mplayer?
[04:15] <purplefeltangel> _jason: hold on, i'll check
[04:16] <cafuego> HomeDawg: Bye then.
[04:17] <slew> is there a program for linux thats like quicken?
[04:17] <Malachi> Sorry for all the trouble guys....my stupidity/sleepiness/sickness/stupidity
[04:17] <nalioth> slew: kmymoney or gnucash
[04:17] <Sapentis> I'm not sure I know qicken.
[04:17] <Sapentis> Quicken*
[04:17] <Sanne> slew: better describe what your program *does*, not all people know what quicken is
[04:18] <mase_> nalioth: apt-get keeps asking for something already installed..
[04:18] <mase_> saying it needs gcc4.0, but its already on the newest version..
[04:18] <purplefeltangel> _jason: no, it doesn't happen in regular mplayer
[04:18] <slew> k thanks
[04:18] <nalioth> mase_: what are you trying to install, and from where?
[04:18] <mase_> trying to install easycam from apt-get
[04:18] <Sanne> Malachi: no problem :)
[04:19] <_jason> purplefeltangel, if you run firefox from a terminal, do you get any error output to the terminal when you view the video?
[04:19] <nalioth> mase_: you are using non ubuntu repos
[04:19] <mase_> it says i dont have build-essentia, and when i do apt-get install build-essential it syas i dont have gcc or g++
[04:19] <nalioth> mase_: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin please
[04:19] <nalioth> mase_: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:20] <alekandr> cafuego: hmm, i rebooted and still nothing loads as root, but, if i open term and su and then apply password and open stuff, it works :(
[04:20] <mase_> k one sec..
[04:20] <MattwestM> has anyone gotten a Linksys USB wireless card to work?
[04:21] <mase_> nalioth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6723
[04:23] <ice_1963> my first time using ubuntu
[04:24] <nalioth> mase_: you cannot run a sources.list like that and NOT have diffeculties
[04:24] <purplefeltangel> _jason: uh, hold on will try that
[04:24] <Magrao> join /#ubuntu-br
[04:24] <mase_> well what am i suppose to do then
[04:24] <Sanne> ice_1963: nice, isn't it? Welcome :)
[04:24] <nalioth> mase_: i hope you are not in for a total reinstall
[04:24] <mase_> heh
[04:24] <cafuego> mase_: Put a # in front of *everything* without us.archive.ubuntu.com in it.
[04:24] <mase_> k
[04:24] <nalioth> mase_: using non official repos WILL cause problems
[04:25] <nalioth> mase_: as you are seeing now
[04:25] <ice_1963> t/u sanne
[04:25] <ice_1963> yes it is
[04:25] <alekandr> Man, nothing loads :|
[04:26] <alekandr> A fresh breezy install borked
[04:26] <mase_> k
[04:26] <mase_> done
[04:26] <mase_> what now
[04:26] <nalioth> mase_: what have you done?
[04:26] <mase_> only left kubuntu.org
[04:26] <mase_> things
[04:27] <stombi> mase_: sudo apt-get update
[04:27] <cafuego> mase_: 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:27] <nalioth> mase_: hopefully you can sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f install    (but i suspect you may be in for a reinstall)
[04:27] <bur[n] er_> alias up='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade $1'
[04:28] <purplefeltangel> _jason: i did it and it gave me something about href=null or something but i don't think it's an error message
[04:28] <ice_1963> does 3ddesktop work on ubuntu?
[04:28] <cafuego> ice_1963: yes
[04:28] <ice_1963> ok
[04:29] <_jason> purplefeltangel, not sure then... make sure the options in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf are the same as in /etc/mplayerplug-in.conf
[04:29] <mase_> nalioth: that apt-get -f install didnt do anything
[04:29] <ice_1963> so jest apt-get install 3ddesktop
[04:29] <stombi> mase_: what's the dpkg error ?
[04:29] <Madpilot> ice_1963: have you enabled the Universe repos?
[04:29] <mase_> there is no error
[04:29] <mase_> just 0 things to install
[04:30] <ice_1963> nop
[04:30] <nalioth> stombi: mase had many non official repos and was having problems with depends
[04:30] <Madpilot> !tell ice_1963 about repos
[04:30] <Sanne> night all
[04:30] <nalioth> mase_: the best way to install things is to enable "Source" repos and have apt-get build the package for you
[04:30] <dnb> anyone know how to upgrade to newer version of firefox?
[04:30] <mase_> nalioth: take a look
[04:31] <mase_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6724
[04:31] <nalioth> mase_: you still have foreign packages installed that has corrupted your box
[04:32] <ice_1963> can i jest use vi for sources ?
[04:32] <mase_> i tried to install gcc-4.0 directly from debian's ftp but still that didnt work
[04:32] <mase_> keeps saying i need gcc 4.0 ...
[04:32] <nalioth> mase_: this is Ubuntu, debian packages WILL break it
[04:32] <mase_> well wtf
[04:32] <mase_> how do i unbreak them than
[04:32] <Madpilot> ice_1963: sure, if you don't want to use gedit
[04:33] <nalioth> mase_: i suspect you'll need to back up your homedir and reinstall. you've successfully locked yourself up
[04:33] <mase_> cant i just remove them
[04:33] <mase_> and apt-get it back
[04:33] <nalioth> mase_: if you wish, and can remember everything that has been added during every 'apt-get upgrade', sure
[04:33] <mase_> ill just remove everything thats  broken
[04:35] <tafsen> how do I change icon, not for only one file, but f.ex for all files with the ending .avi ?
[04:35] <_ldy_> Hi, all a question about ubuntu security. If I include breezy-security in my source.list. Then Can I patch all the holes by apt-get upgrade?
[04:35] <Toma-> _ldy_: yes
[04:35] <_ldy_> tafsen: I think theme will help you.
[04:36] <tafsen> _ldy_,  how?
[04:36] <_ldy_> Toma-: got it :)
[04:36] <mase_> holy shit
[04:36] <nalioth> mase_: please respect us with your language
[04:36] <_ldy_> tafsen: which desktop env are you useing? gnome or kde?
[04:36] <djlilyazi>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <your-password>
[04:36] <tafsen> _ldy_, gnome
[04:36] <tech> hello i need some help here! how can i get in my desktop using the run command line, i cant get in.
[04:37] <djlilyazi> hi
[04:37] <Hobbsee> tech: startx?
[04:37] <beginer> I have a broadband connection... I start the server, I check bandwidth and I have cca. 1600kbps. In time, the connection is going down and after few hor i have 200...300kbps... i restart debian and when i check, all become to normal at 1600kbps... what is that?
[04:37] <tech> startx?
[04:37] <Knelix> starx
[04:37] <_ldy_> tafsen: give a mins.
[04:37] <Knelix> startx
[04:38] <Knelix> that is.
[04:38] <Hobbsee> tech: as in, type that in, hit enter, and your desktop should come up
[04:38] <tech> Hobbsee: ok
[04:39] <tech> im not authorized? how can i get authorized?
[04:39] <_ldy_> tafsen: click system menus.
[04:39] <tech> _ldy_: ok then?
[04:39] <_ldy_> tafsen: easy way: open gnome-terminal, input gnome-theme-manger
[04:40] <egkamp> tech: are you not authorized to run startx?
[04:40] <JairunCaloth> I can't get my current linux-headers from apt-get
[04:41] <_ldy_> tafsen: I am useing chinese version ubuntu and I am useing kde. I can not remeber the menu name.
[04:41] <JairunCaloth> It keeps telling me the package dosn't exist
[04:41] <Madpilot> _ldy_ & tafsen: System menu --> Prefs --> Themes
[04:41] <tech> egkamp: thats my computer say, but i install this myself
[04:41] <egkamp> sudo startx
[04:41] <_ldy_> Madpilot: bingle :-) and I think gnome-theme-manger is the same
[04:41] <JairunCaloth> errr, that's not kernel-headers, but kernel-source
[04:42] <egkamp> i think you have to run startx w/privilidges
[04:42] <Hobbsee_> egkamp, you shouldnt have to
[04:42] <tech> egkamp: it ask password
[04:42] <JairunCaloth> doh, nevermind. I was looking for the wrong package
[04:42] <egkamp> yes, use your password
[04:42] <egkamp> what you used to log in
[04:43] <Madpilot> _ldy_: it is, I just checked
[04:43] <Madpilot> tech: when you use sudo, use your own user password
[04:43] <tech> egkamp: ok then whats next?
[04:44] <tafsen> Madpilot: thx
[04:44] <egkamp> did startx run? you should be in xwindows, if it did
[04:44] <tech> yes, thanks
[04:44] <tafsen> how do I add icons on the desktop using rox?
[04:44] <egkamp> :-) it is good to be useful
[04:44] <_ldy_> Madpilot: Yes, It's useful, I can let gtk based application use theme even when I use fvwm.
[04:46] <tafsen> Madpilot: could you give an exampel? How do i change the icons for *.avi files?
[04:48] <alekandr> !sources
[04:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:49] <Madpilot> tafsen: to be honest, I'm not sure about tweaking individual icons, changing whole themes is all I've done
[04:49] <Madpilot> !themes
[04:49] <linlin> anyone know of a guide available for dusl monitors on an nvidia video card in ubuntu?
[04:49] <linlin> *dual monitors
[04:49] <Madpilot> from the bot: themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from http://art.gnome.org/ Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com See also !KDEThemes
[04:50] <nalioth> Madpilot: fer pets's sake. . .. .
[04:50] <Morg> If it says permissions are lrwxrwxrwx, what does the l mean?
[04:50] <dabaR> Madpilot: change a picture for one icon?
[04:51] <dabaR> *change the picture...
[04:51] <dabaR> Morg: link?
[04:52] <Morg> dabaR: Are you sure?
[04:52] <Set> outlife in sweden is wild
[04:52] <Morg> Because if I create my own link, it doesn't show such an l.
[04:52] <Set> I got kicked to the head. went right down
[04:53] <ptolo> Morg: 'l' is symbolic link (ln -s <original> <newlink>)
[04:53] <ptolo> Morg: if you didn't use '-s', you created a hardlink
[04:53] <Sexything> hello
[04:54] <ptolo> Morg: which is actually one file showing up at two different places (this trick works only across one filesystem)
[04:54] <hikenboot> it appears that ubuntu does not recognize modules lines in the menu.lst...is there a place to read up on its method of implementing modules?
[04:54] <ptolo> Morg: hardlinks are rarely  used (if you don't know what kind of link you want, use soft links)
[04:54] <Sexything> im having problem with setting up SSH, help me please
[04:54] <dabaR> Morg: No, not sure at all.
[04:55] <Sexything> im having problem setting up SSH, help me please
[04:55] <dabaR> ptolo: wtheck does your nick mean, and how come you chose to change it?
[04:55] <Kr0ntab> sup people....
[04:55] <tafsen> Madpilot: I don't want to change all the icons... Don't want icon theme.  I wan't to change the icons for one type of files
[04:56] <Morg> ptolo: OK, thanks.
[04:56] <dabaR> Sexything: how are you trying to set up ssh?
[04:56] <Sexything> thanks
[04:56] <Sexything> i have already installed SSH and openssh
[04:56] <ptolo> dabaR: oh, my connection broke so this was a fallback nick and i forgot to change it back
[04:56] <Sexything> its working within my lan
[04:56] <Madpilot> tafsen: I know, but I'm not sure how to do that - someone else might, though
[04:56] <dabaR> and what is ptlo?
[04:56] <jherke> can some point me to documentaion for 1600X1200 screen res for nvidia
[04:56] <hikenboot> anyone?
[04:56] <Sexything> i can accss it
[04:56] <tafsen> Madpilot, k, thx anyway
[04:57] <tafsen> how do I change icon, not for only one file, but f.ex for all files with the ending .avi ?
[04:57] <tafsen> and I don't want icon themes :P
[04:57] <ptlo> dabaR: nothing, just me
[04:57] <Sexything> when trying it on other places i cant access my SSh server
[04:57] <nanang> where ican set my environment variable?
[04:57] <dabaR> ptlo: but what is it, it is not a name, or a word, that I know...
[04:58] <dabaR> Sexything: do you use a router? what is your IP adress of the computer?
[04:58] <Sexything> yap
[04:58] <McJerry> who here uses a linksys wireless router on their setup? And what if any third party firmware do you use on it? I know this is unrelated to topic, but i just want to know?
[04:58] <Sexything> geone@192.168.0.142
[04:58] <dabaR> then you need to set up the router to forward port 22 requests to this computer.
[04:58] <Sexything> port 22
[04:58] <dabaR> Sexything: and then access from the Internet using the external router IP address.
[04:58] <ptlo> dabaR: its incorrectly spelled abbreviation of my former nick, which i happened to like
[04:59] <Korupt> what's the hold up with firefox 1.5..... its driving me nuts?
[04:59] <indo> i use linysys wireless 3rd pt firmware though
[04:59] <dabaR> petlo?
[04:59] <Sexything> ok thanks
[04:59] <indo> *no 3rd party firmware
[04:59] <dabaR> tolp?
[04:59] <dabaR> ptlo: you do python, eh? you helped me on #python today, I think..
[04:59] <ptlo> dabaR: 'ptolo' <- 'ptolomei'
[04:59] <ptlo> dabaR: yup
[05:00] <jherke> anyone know where to find documentation on nvidia for ubuntu 1600X1200 res problem
[05:00] <Sexything> thanks dabar
[05:00] <Sexything> thanks
[05:00] <dabaR> ptlo: did you tell me about pygtk.org, or something else?
[05:00] <Madpilot> !tell jherke about nvidia
[05:00] <jherke> thanks
[05:01] <ptlo> dabaR: about tutorial on pygtk, yeah
[05:01] <hikenboot> it appears that ubuntu does not recognize modules lines in the menu.lst...is there a place to read up on its method of implementing modules?
[05:01] <ptlo> did it help? :)
[05:04] <nanang> any one can help where ican set my environment variable?
[05:04] <nalioth> nanang: put any environment things in your ~/.bashrc
[05:05] <Guest666> whats a variable
[05:07] <dabaR> ptlo: ya, that is a great reference. I am learning python now, just starting, so I will read that tutorial there. But I am at work now, so I will start going through the examples when I get home, and when I get time. How come you are up so late lately? Are you in HR still?
[05:07] <LoneWolf071> is there any way to limit the amount of processor a user can use?
[05:09] <crimsun> LoneWolf071: yes, see the manpage for pam's limits
[05:09] <beginer> echo "1" > /var/log/test  return ./test: line 2: /var/log/test No such file or directory
[05:09] <beginer> how must i use echo to create that file?
[05:09] <dabaR> crimsun: is ":syntax on" in vim supposed to work over ssh with screen?
[05:10] <LoneWolf071> is there any way to limit the amount of processor a user can use? ulimit isn't implemented in 2.4 kernels or above...
[05:11] <ptlo> dabaR: yup, i'm in .hr; i've screwed up my biorhythm :-) and i'm working on my diploma project
[05:12] <dabaR> diploma? how old are you?
[05:13] <LoneWolf071> anyone?
[05:13] <Eleaf> lol
[05:13] <alekandr> LoneWolf071: google it :] 
[05:13] <Silver_Adept> Is this the right channel to ask a troubleshooting question in?
[05:13] <phreak97> my systemtray icons appear in a window in the top left of my desktop, not in the systemtray
[05:13] <Eleaf> LoneWolf071, I would like to know how to do this too, it seems interesting.
[05:13] <phreak97> the only thing in the tray is the sound icon
[05:13] <phreak97> how do i fix it?
[05:13] <LoneWolf071> lol, well google come up with everything old...
[05:14] <LoneWolf071> there were programs, but they are all implemented before the 2.4 kernel
[05:14] <brenner> Silver_Adept: yep..it's also nice if it's ubuntu related somehow. :)
[05:14] <alekandr> LoneWolf071: http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/ArticleID/7602/7602.html
[05:14] <dabaR> Silver_Adept: any channel on freenode is the right channel to ask a question in. ot all are great to get an answer to the question in. Try.
[05:14] <nalioth> brenner: howdy
[05:15] <Silver_Adept> Thank you. Does it matter if I'm runnking Kubuntu, or should I find the appropriately-named channel for that?
[05:15] <morphix> i have a few problems with getting pypanel to load at startup with openbox.. can someone help me plz??
[05:15] <brenner> phreak97: system tray?  anyway, you can move icons by right-clicking and selecting move, or add applets by selecting 'add to panel'
[05:15] <dabaR> Silver_Adept: ask away
[05:15] <dabaR> Silver_Adept: there is #kubuntu
[05:16] <phreak97> brenner, i added a notification area, but they dont use it
[05:16] <phreak97> they spawn their own
[05:17] <Silver_Adept> Well, it's probably one that's been heard before - I'm running an nVidia geForce4 card, and I want my monitor to run my display with a refresh rate higher than 60Hz. But the config options are locked at 60Hz.
[05:17] <ptlo> dabaR: i'm 26 ;-)
[05:17] <phreak97> you know, when you run gaim an icon appears on the top right next to the time
[05:17] <phreak97> mine doesnt, it appears in a window in the top left of the desktop
[05:17] <phreak97> and its annoying as hell
[05:18] <Silver_Adept> I've tried a couple of the manual modeline hacks, and they worked for a while, but today instead X crashed to console login rather than loading up K.
[05:19] <dfgas> anyone have problems with php not working with php on a fresh install?
[05:21] <enginuitor> bleh
[05:22] <morphix> how would i take a screenshot??
[05:22] <phreak97> brenner, help?
[05:22] <Guest666> print screen
[05:22] <Madpilot> morphix: press the Print Screen key
[05:22] <brenner> phreak97: screenshot?  i'm not sure exactly what's going on
[05:22] <enginuitor> I've got a Ubuntu Hoary live CD, and have installed an sshd through apt using the default repos provided. However, I can't seem to get scp to work.
[05:23] <enginuitor> ssh from the console works fine...
[05:24] <phreak97> ok
[05:24] <phreak97> holdon
[05:24] <morphix> but what image editin program do i need to save it??
[05:24] <Silver_Adept> GIMP should work.
[05:25] <poningru_games> morphix: it should be there already
[05:25] <Chris_Tucker> how does one force the cdrom to open? nomatter what?
[05:25] <morphix> yeh it is lol
[05:25] <xeno> can someone help me apply the dsdt initd patch for the kernel?
[05:25] <Madpilot> morphix: gnome should pop up a screenshot app automatically
[05:25] <Guest666> Chris_Tucker, pin in the whole
[05:25] <Chris_Tucker> i have a screwed up cd in my burner that didnt burn right, and wont eject. how do i override the lock?
[05:25] <enginuitor> Hmm, scp ~is~ working...
[05:26] <Eleaf> Guest666, lol, whenever I need to do that, the cd drive always squeels and then like clunks, and it wont come out stilll lolol
[05:26] <linlin> paperclip
[05:26] <brenner> Chris_Tucker: have you tried 'sudo eject'?
[05:26] <Chris_Tucker> Guest666, no can do. system is powered on. and cant reboot right now.
[05:26] <enginuitor> I guess I have to go bug #kde about konqueror, then, if scp itself isn't the problem
[05:26] <Eleaf> Chris_Tucker, you can do it with the computer on, I do
[05:26] <Chris_Tucker> brenner, >.< that worked
[05:26] <Eleaf> lolol
[05:26] <enginuitor> The "fish:/" kioslave uses scp, right?
[05:26] <enginuitor> ...or is it sftp?
[05:27] <brenner> Chris_Tucker: cool...i wasn't betting on it. :)
[05:27] <Chris_Tucker> i didnt think sudo eject would work cause k3b complained about not being able to unlock the drive.
[05:27] <enginuitor> I guess this is the wrong place to be asking
[05:27] <xeno> can someone help me apply the dsdt initd patch for the kernel?
[05:28] <enginuitor> Chris_Tucker: By the way, hdparm can set the  "door lock" state for IDE drives, though I'm not entirely sure if it would apply for a CD-ROM drive...
[05:29] <Chris_Tucker> enginuitor, i'll keep that in mind should sudo eject ever disobey...
[05:29] <brenner> enginuitor: #kubuntu might be useful also
[05:29] <Chris_Tucker> AAAAAAHHHHHHHH i didnt realize k3b had sounds! i think i just woke up my entire house
[05:29] <drcode> any one know if I can convert firefox bookmark into mozilla browser?
[05:30] <DShepherd> drcode: ??? go again?
[05:31] <enginuitor> Chris_Tucker: Never mind -- doesn't look like CD-ROM drives like that command :) However, there is a program called 'eject' (clever name), which will eject CD-ROM drives and all manner of other ejectable media
[05:31] <drcode> I want to convert bookmarks.html of firefox into mozilla
[05:31] <Chris_Tucker> drcode, if all else fails.. go to ~/.mozilla/ navigate your way to your bookmarks.html and just open the link in your browser of choice
[05:31] <DShepherd> drcode: why?
[05:31] <DShepherd> drcode: do what Chris_Tucker said
[05:32] <enginuitor> Even put up a webcam so they could watch it happen
[05:32] <enginuitor> That got old *real* fast
[05:32] <drcode> k
[05:32] <drcode> I will expline
[05:32] <phnxgk> Howdy ho everyone
[05:32] <drcode> I want to use my bookmark as remote bookmark
[05:32] <brenner> enginuitor: and you implemented that, why? :)
[05:33] <drcode> I found squrilmail , that it as bookmark and option to import
[05:33] <drcode> but it need netscape or IE6 bookmark
[05:33] <enginuitor> brenner: Spoon slipped when measuring caffeine powder into my morning tea that day :-D
[05:33] <phnxgk> Ok i have an instalation problem.
[05:33] <im-a-newbie> hi
[05:34] <im-a-newbie> i would like to ask
[05:34] <brenner> lol
[05:34] <im-a-newbie> how can i connect to the internet using ubuntu?
[05:34] <djlilyazi> how can i access my files on my windows xp ?
[05:35] <brenner> ubotu: tell djlilyazi about ntfs
[05:35] <im-a-newbie> djlilyazi: how can i access my files on my windows xp ? --- it depends..if ur windows xp drive is in fat32 u can still see it
[05:35] <DShepherd> drcode: have you tried exporting the firefox bookmark and se if that  works with squirlmail?
[05:35] <im-a-newbie> but if it's on ntfs..sorry man..
[05:35] <DShepherd> drcode: se=see
[05:35] <djlilyazi> yes NTFS
[05:35] <im-a-newbie> DShepherd : how can i connect to internet using ubuntu?
[05:36] <tim> in ubuntu, is the root account not supposed to be used interactively?
[05:36] <brenner> djlilyazi: check your pms.  ubotu's sent you a link
[05:36] <phnxgk> ok as well as having instalation problems, im also having problems with apps closing on me randomly.
[05:36] <drcode> yes
[05:36] <im-a-newbie> DShepherd : i have installed ubuntu 5.1 and there seems no program like KPPP to connect...
[05:37] <purpleheart_USMC> I can't get my network card to work in ubuntu
[05:37] <drcode> it give me some error
[05:37] <drcode> of time out
[05:37] <drcode> I will try again
[05:37] <drcode> the firefox bookmarks and netscape are same?
[05:38] <im-a-newbie> tim: in ubuntu, is the root account not supposed to be used interactively? --- eh? what do you mean?
[05:38] <brenner> tim: root account is disabled by default
[05:38] <DShepherd> drcode: I think so
[05:38] <brenner> ubotu: tell tim about root
[05:38] <DShepherd> im-a-newbie: you on dial up?
[05:38] <purpleheart_USMC> its a 3com that i know works with linux, and a built in one as well.  both show the green led for a connection, and show the yellow for activity, but neither seem to work...
[05:38] <im-a-newbie> DShepherd : yes
[05:38] <DShepherd> im-a-newbie: I feel your pain
[05:38] <Christophe971> hello minna
[05:38] <im-a-newbie> DShepherd : does ubuntu work with DUP?
[05:39] <DShepherd> im-a-newbie: sure
[05:39] <tim> brenner: thanks
[05:39] <Christophe971> is it normal that i've network access from i gentoo (chrooted from ubuntu breezy)
[05:39] <phnxgk> Well with my instalation problems.  i try to install a package useing Synaptic Package Manager,  it downloads the package, then it trys to install it, but it gives me an error.......
[05:39] <Christophe971> ?
[05:39] <brenner> im-a-newbie: depends on your modem
[05:39] <im-a-newbie> DShepherd : it detects my modem
[05:39] <im-a-newbie> DShepherdbut what program should i use to connect
[05:39] <DShepherd> im-a-newbie: sudo aptitude install gnome-ppp. I havent personally used it.... but it should work
[05:40] <im-a-newbie> ahh okei
[05:40] <im-a-newbie> so any release or any distribution programs would work with it??
[05:40] <purpleheart_USMC> can someone help me?
[05:40] <brenner> phnxgk: what error?  (use pastebin if > $ lines)
[05:40] <phnxgk> the error says.......failed to apply all changes, scroll in the terminal buffer to see whats wrong.
[05:41] <phnxgk> i look at the terminal buffer and all it says is "preconfigering packages...."
[05:41] <DShepherd> im-a-newbie: ubuntu should
[05:41] <brenner> phnxgk: paste the command you used and the error output to a pastebin
[05:41] <korkow> hello?
[05:42] <DShepherd> hi
[05:42] <phnxgk> brenner i didnt use a comand, i am using the Synaptic GUI thingy.
[05:42] <korkow> im having ssh trouble
[05:42] <brenner> phnxgk: ah, my mistake.  what package are you trying to install?
[05:42] <korkow> i have openssh installed properly, and it starts up fine
[05:43] <phnxgk> brenner aalib1
[05:43] <korkow> but i can't connect to this box from any other compy
[05:43] <hejux> hi
[05:43] <korkow> port 22 is open in my fire and everything
[05:43] <korkow> *firewall
[05:43] <korkow> no one want to help, eh?
[05:43] <phnxgk> brenner however all the packages do the same thing when i try to install them.  I cant even do the auto update thing.
[05:44] <brenner> phnxgk: sounds like a repo problem
[05:44] <nilsL> Hey! I run Breezy Ubuntu on a PPC Ibook G3. How do I install Java for Mozilla Firefox?
[05:44] <brenner> phnxgk: aalib1 installed fine for me
[05:44] <DShepherd> ubotu tell nilsL about java
[05:44] <brenner> ubotu: tell phnxgk about repos
[05:45] <nilsL> !javadebs
[05:45] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[05:45] <phnxgk> brenner when i installed ubuntu, during the second part of the instalation before it boots, at about 84 percent it says that some files wernt installed, and that i should fix it manually.
[05:45] <nanang> nalioth : tq
[05:45] <nilsL> DShepherd: thx!
[05:45] <DShepherd> nilsL: sure
[05:45] <brenner> phnxgk: that doesn't sound too good.  you might have a broken install there
[05:46] <DShepherd> korkow: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto?highlight=%28ssh%29
[05:46] <phnxgk> brenner it has happend with 3 different downloads and burns, as well as a distro disk i got from Linux Format magazine
[05:47] <DShepherd> korkow: this one is a little bit more advanced
[05:47] <DShepherd> korkow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH?highlight=%28ssh%29
[05:47] <brenner> phnxgk: gee, that's no good
[05:47] <purpleheart_USMC> can someone help me?
[05:47] <keyhack> How can I find out what package "ffmpeg" is in?
[05:48] <brenner> keyhack: packages.ubuntu.com has a file search feature...but that package should be easy enough to find with a title search
[05:48] <phnxgk> brenner  ya, I ordered a disk from the web site, but im begging to think its something on my end, but i dont know what.  Ubuntu is the only one that does it.
[05:48] <brenner> using synatpic/other apt tool
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> keyhack, sudo apt-cache search ffmpeg
[05:48] <DShepherd> keyhack: sudo aptitude searc ffmped works
[05:48] <Chris_Tucker> keyhack, or search in synaptic
[05:48] <DShepherd> keyhack: sudo aptitude search ffmped works
[05:49] <DShepherd> ffmpeg* ahh typos!
[05:49] <keyhack> The only thing that showed up was "gstreamer0.8-misc - Collection of various GStreamer plugins"
[05:49] <SweetestSavage> What's the command to show your LAN IP and Subnet Mask etc? (Like ipconfig in windows)
[05:49] <Eleaf> ifconfig
[05:50] <Eleaf> SweetestSavage, ^^
[05:50] <xeno> can someone help me with dsdt table install
[05:50] <phnxgk> brenner any ideas about whats wrong?
[05:50] <keyhack> To me that didn't seem like the right package
[05:50] <DShepherd> keyhack: do you have universe installed?
[05:50] <SweetestSavage> Eleaf, oh, heh. Thanks =P
[05:50] <Eleaf> = )
[05:50] <keyhack> DShepherd: No idea
[05:50] <DShepherd> tell keyhack about repos
[05:51] <DShepherd> Itell keyhack about repos
[05:51] <DShepherd> ubotu keyhack about repos
[05:51] <ubotu> DShepherd: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:51] <brenner> phnxgk: my 1st thought was a repo problem, but aalib1 is in main, so you should be able to install it straight...
[05:51] <DShepherd> ubotu tell keyhack about repos
[05:51] <brenner> phnxgk: so *all* your installs failed?
[05:51] <DShepherd> ubotu: thanks for keeping up with my typos
[05:51] <ubotu> DShepherd: pas de quoi
[05:52] <phnxgk> brenner all of the ones i tried.  But i havnt gone through every single package yet.
[05:52] <brenner> phnxgk: i meant the actual distro installs actually
[05:53] <brenner> phnxgk: try installing using 'sudo apt-get install <package>'.  you might get some more useful info in the terminal
[05:53] <phnxgk> brenner yes all of them did the same thing.
[05:53] <phnxgk> ok one sec ill try that
[05:53] <hejux> hi
[05:53] <DShepherd> hey
[05:54] <keyhack> I have multiverse, and I still don't see a simple package for "ffmpeg"
[05:54] <mlalkaka> a certain kernel module (spca5xx) is loaded when my computer starts up. i want to send an option to the driver when it is loaded. how do i do that?
[05:54] <DShepherd> keyhack: do you have universe enabled
[05:54] <hejux> DShepherd, i am using x-chat ,how to set my own color to blue ? it is gray default
[05:54] <DShepherd> hejux: I dont know...
[05:54] <StarKruzr> does anyone know what to do to get movie files such as mpgs to play inside a webpage on Firefox?  or to get Flash working on Firefox?  the script which installs it from Macromedia appears to be broken.
[05:54] <brenner> keyhack: ffmpeg is in universe
[05:55] <scanwinder> ive got a soundblaster live 5.1 soundcard and 5.1 speakers and, i cant get any sound out of the back 2 speakers in ubuntu, how do i fix this?
[05:55] <DShepherd> hejux: try preferences
[05:55] <phnxgk> brenner E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:55] <phnxgk> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:55] <hejux> DShepherd, okay ,thanks
[05:55] <brenner> phnxgk: close synaptic
[05:55] <DShepherd> hejux: sure
[05:56] <brenner> phnxgk: you can only use one apt tool at a time
[05:56] <Morg> How do you use apt-get to see if you already have a package installed?
[05:56] <Christophe971> apt-cache show
[05:56] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, for flash, all you have to do is go to a site that has flash on it. it will ask you to install the plugin
[05:56] <blood> is my sound sapposed to work when i first instal?
[05:56] <StarKruzr> mlalkaka: that does not work.
[05:57] <TheAsp> Anyone know of a problem with grub and sata and the a8n sli premium mb?  After debconf puts grub on and reboots, grub doesn't load up.  If I try to boot a grub floppy and load the menu, it gets erorrs trying to do savedefault.  When that is removed it boots.
[05:57] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, then i'm not sure. for mpg's, you need to install the package mozilla-mplayer or something like that
[05:57] <StarKruzr> mlalkaka: instead after you hit the grey button it does nothing.
[05:57] <TheAsp> Just hangs where grub would normally start
[05:57] <StarKruzr> mlalkaka: will that not expect mozilla rather than firefox?
[05:58] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, that package works for both
[05:58] <StarKruzr> okay.
[05:58] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, firefox derived from mozilla.
[05:58] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, for flash, have you tried the original installer from macromedia's site?
[05:58] <Jared> i got the drivers for my webcam i just can't get my cam to show up as /dev/video0....any ideas         ANYONE
[05:59] <Jared> My webcam is a must have
[05:59] <scanwinder> i cant get my soundblaster live 5.1 to output to the rear speakers, does ubuntu fully support the card without installing drivers?
[05:59] <StarKruzr> mlalkaka: it breaks.
[05:59] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, hhmm. weird.
[05:59] <StarKruzr> I'll tell you what it says
[05:59] <morphix> omg.
[05:59] <StarKruzr> oyg?
[06:00] <Jared> Anyone in here have any ideas?
[06:00] <phnxgk> brenner i have a sneeky suspicion that a total system lock up is not good.
[06:00] <StarKruzr> !pastebin
[06:00] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:00] <brenner> StarKruzr: have you tried the flashplayer-mozilla package?
[06:01] <phnxgk> brenner what was the sudo command agein?
[06:01] <morphix> i'm in openbox.. i change the .xsession file so that pypanel will load up automatically.. but it doesnt...i have to open a terminal and manually open pypanel.. and if i close that terminal.. so does pypanel.
[06:01] <brenner> phnxgk: ouch.  ok, something's definitely wrong
[06:01] <StarKruzr> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6730 <-- brenner, mlalkaka
[06:01] <brenner> Jared: had a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam?
[06:02] <hejux> during this half year ,ubuntu or Linux has made greate progress on its desktop perfermence
[06:02] <Jared> okay brenner
[06:02] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, after that it just closes?
[06:02] <StarKruzr> no, it sits waiting on readline, and no matter what you type and press enter on, it just sits there.
[06:03] <Jared> brenner easy cam don't have the drivers for my webcam......so i got the from somewhere else. so
[06:03] <FlimFlamMan> isnt it possible to rename a printer in gnome-cups-manager (or specify a name when creating the printer)?
[06:03] <hejux> the display of CJK is nearly perfect!
[06:03] <brenner> StarKruzr: can't help you there.  i've never used the official installer
[06:03] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, does /dev/tty exist on your system?
[06:04] <brenner> Jared: yeah, not sure really...i just asked ubotu quickly about webcams.  sorry
[06:04] <StarKruzr> there is flashplayer-mozilla, and flashplugin-nonfree.  the latter says "useful for mozilla variants."
[06:04] <brenner> Jared: have you searched the forum?
[06:04] <phnxgk> grr
[06:04] <phnxgk> dern thing closed on me.
[06:04] <StarKruzr> mlalkaka: it sure does.
[06:04] <phnxgk> brenner ok this iw what my terminal says....
[06:04] <Jared> no
[06:04] <Jared> i will
[06:04] <phnxgk> brenner phnxgk@Transformer:~$ sudo apt-get install aalib1
[06:04] <phnxgk> Password:
[06:04] <phnxgk> Reading package lists... Done
[06:04] <phnxgk> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:04] <phnxgk> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[06:04] <keyhack> Does anyone here know how to use the libdvdread3? I'm trying to copy a VOB off of my DVD decrypted
[06:04] <phnxgk>   aalib1
[06:04] <phnxgk> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 40 not upgraded.
[06:05] <phnxgk> 20 not fully installed or removed.
[06:05] <phnxgk> Need to get 0B/1456B of archives.
[06:05] <phnxgk> After unpacking 28.7kB of additional disk space will be used.
[06:05] <phnxgk> Preconfiguring packages ...
[06:05] <phnxgk> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 19059 package `openssh-client':
[06:05] <phnxgk>  `Provides' field, invalid package name `
[06:05] <phnxgk> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[06:05] <phnxgk> phnxgk@Transformer:~$
[06:05] <phnxgk> sorry for larg post guys. and gals
[06:05] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[06:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:05] <CaptainMorgan> to read win flles, I cant mount the win partition... anyone know how I can read linux files in win?
[06:05] <brenner> sorry guys..i thought i told him about the pastebin
[06:05] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, are you able to check for it at the moment?
[06:06] <phnxgk> you did.  it was my falt i had no idea what you ment.
[06:06] <mlalkaka> a certain kernel module (spca5xx) is loaded when my computer starts up. i want to send an option to the driver when it is loaded. how do i do that?
[06:07] <StarKruzr> mlalkaka: check for what?
[06:07] <StarKruzr> /dev/tty exists, if that's what you mean.
[06:07] <phnxgk> closed on me agien.
[06:07] <CaptainMorgan> how do i read ubuntu's files in win ?
[06:07] <phnxgk> ok what was the past bin web site agien?  Fire fox crashed also.  *cries* gosh this sucks.
[06:07] <brenner> phnxgk: sounds like dpkg is borked
[06:07] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, check for /dev/tty
[06:08] <StarKruzr> dude
[06:08] <StarKruzr> I did
[06:08] <StarKruzr> it's there.
[06:08] <brenner> phnxgk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:08] <phnxgk> brenner  thanks.
[06:08] <phnxgk> brenner ok so how do i fix dpkg?
[06:10] <mlalkaka> StarKruzr, i just realized that i am using the package flashplayer-mozilla, and it seems to be providing firefox with the plugin as well. have you tried that package?
[06:10] <Guest666> is there a shortcut key to a console window in ubuntu?
[06:10] <brenner> phnxgk: i'm not certain, but i could suggest somet things to try
[06:10] <brenner> Guest666: alt+f1?
[06:10] <brenner> alt+f7 to go back iirc
[06:11] <djlilyazi> whats the diff between KDE,Gnome ?
[06:11] <phnxgk> irc closed on me agien...
[06:11] <Guest666> and why didnt this ubuntu install ask me fo ra root password to be set at all?
[06:11] <brenner> phnxgk: i have a feeling your failed install is causing all this
[06:11] <blood_> Can i play wow from windows while using linux?
[06:12] <blood_> hello
[06:12] <djlilyazi> whats the diff between KDE and Gnome ?
[06:12] <phnxgk> brenner is there anyway to fix it?  because as i said, i have tried 3 diff downloads and a distro disk from Linux Format Magazine.
[06:13] <Jared> i just need to know how to make my cam show up as /dev/video0
[06:13] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know anything about EXT2IFS ?
[06:13] <brenner> phnxgk: you might have rotten luck. i.e. all cds were bad. do you have a spare computer you can install on?
[06:13] <CaptainMorgan> says if installed to the system root, nt may not boot....
[06:13] <CaptainMorgan> wtf ?
[06:14] <Jared> hmph
[06:14] <phnxgk> brenner not one with any free hard drive space.
[06:14] <phnxgk> brenner is there a way to install it over the internet?
[06:15] <Guest666> the root account is disabled by default. If you want to do something with root permission on the console you have to type sudo before the command.
[06:15] <brenner> not afaik
[06:15] <Guest666> "sudo" means superuser do. "sudo" will prompt for "Password:". Please specify user password
[06:15] <Guest666> Your way of enabling the root account is wrong. The correct way to enable the root account (which is not advised to do) is :
[06:15] <Guest666> sudo passwd root
[06:15] <Guest666> HOMO
[06:15] <monzie> hi all
[06:15] <brenner> i'm not really sure...try searching the forum with the error output
[06:15] <monzie> is there a way to download the source code for GNOME using apt-get
[06:15] <monzie> i am using Ubuntu breezy
[06:15] <phnxgk> hmm
[06:15] <brenner> i can't really think of anything except getting a clean install
[06:15] <brenner> sory
[06:16] <brenner> +r
[06:16] <morphix> CaptainMorgan, i used ext2ifs to look at my linux partitions in windows..
[06:16] <morphix> use*
[06:17] <phnxgk> brenner could you send me an iso of your distro disk?  ill burn that and see if that would work.
[06:17] <brenner> phnxgk: i don't think you'd want that. i'm on dialup :-/
[06:17] <Kindred> it'll only take a week
[06:17] <phnxgk> brenner hmm....  ya, that would take a while.
[06:18] <brenner> phnxgk: there's a way to check the cd's integrity iirc.  md5sum or something
[06:18] <monzie> help please, i want to get sources for the GNOME desktop using apt-get
[06:18] <monzie> is it possible in any way?
[06:19] <phnxgk> brenner  how would i do that?
[06:19] <brenner> phnxgk: maybe try repairing broken packages thru synaptic
[06:19] <brenner> it's in the edit menu
[06:19] <toyiti12> how to edit grub loader time to choose betn 2 os
[06:19] <phnxgk> brenner ill try that real quick
[06:20] <brenner> toyiti12: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:20] <brenner> the timeout field
[06:20] <hikenboot> anyone know the Ubuntu package for Development install of zlib (e.g., zlib-dev)
[06:20] <toyiti12> terminal command plz
[06:21] <crimsun> !info zlib1g-dev
[06:21] <hikenboot> Ah ok wasnt sure if that was it or not
[06:21] <hikenboot> thanks
[06:21] <brenner> toyiti12: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:21] <phnxgk> brenner closed on me agien.
[06:22] <brenner> ok, could someone confirm that checking the md5sum is a way of checking the install cd's integrity?  and how would phnxgk do that?
[06:22] <phnxgk> brenner it wont even let me reinstall a package
[06:23] <brenner> phnxgk: like i said, sounds like dpkg is borked
[06:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brenner: Yes, that's how you check if it's 'intact'.
[06:23] <phnxgk> brenner what is dpkg?
[06:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brenner: To do that, you have to compare the md5 hash provided on the website with the one you get for the downloaded .iso file.
[06:24] <daskog> I just tryed the Ubuntu Flight 2 live cd! dam* it's fast on my system! it's not like anything i've seen frome a linux distroe before! could it be the 2.6.15 kernel & my Nforce 4+ AMD X2?
[06:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: With that hardware, wouldn't anything be fast? :)
[06:24] <daskog> yeah, but i mean it was crazy fast
[06:24] <alphy> how do I get GIMP to save as a jpg or bmp?
[06:24] <daskog> !!!
[06:24] <ubotu> ??
[06:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: When you go to save, it'll let you select the file format.
[06:24] <daskog> everything was realy snappy and faaaast!
[06:25] <brenner> PuMpErNiCkLe: so that would help?  he seems to be having package problems and apparently all his installs have failed somewhere in the 84% region (phnxgk: at the package config stage right?)
[06:25] <SweetestSavage> daskog, dang, nice o_o
[06:25] <toyiti12> command not found
[06:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brenner: It wouldn't necessarily help... it would just show if file integrity is the problem.
[06:25] <SweetestSavage> AMD X2.. nForce 4+.. nice =)
[06:25] <brenner> phnxgk: from the man page: 'dpkg  is  a  tool to install, build, remove and manage Debian packages'
[06:25] <spikes> anyone know how to set up weplab?
[06:25] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, it doesn't.
[06:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brenner: He'd still have to download/burn a new iso.
[06:26] <phnxgk> brenner the package install part, during the second part of the instalation after it restarted once
[06:26] <toyiti12> asked passward first ,then said commnad not found
[06:27] <DShepherd> alphy: try save as-> select file extension
[06:27] <s_spiff> hi
[06:27] <DShepherd> ey
[06:27] <StarKruzr> can somoene recommend to me a good sftp and ftp client for KDE?
[06:27] <DShepherd> hey*
[06:27] <s_spiff> can a newbie raise his doubts here or is there another channel for it?
[06:27] <brenner> phnxgk: to be honest, i'm not sure what's going on.  are you ensuring you leave enough space for the install?
[06:28] <StarKruzr> spiff: most of the people who talk in here are newbies :)
[06:28] <s_spiff> using both ubuntu and added kde about 2 days back.
[06:28] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[06:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: I'll post a screenshot of what I mean in the pastebin... gimme a second...
[06:28] <phnxgk> brenner 10 gigs
[06:28] <DShepherd> StarKruzr: you may get more help in #kubuntu
[06:28] <brenner> phnxgk: yeah, that's fine
[06:29] <daskog> *everybody whants to cha cha cha*
[06:29] <s_spiff> are there any scripts for x-chat? like i used !euphoria for mIRC in windows
[06:29] <phnxgk> brenner could it possibly be a hardware issue?
[06:30] <brenner> phnxgk: maybe.  which is why i suggested trying an install on a spare computer
[06:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bah
[06:30] <Kindred> :\
[06:30] <spikes> i guess no one knows anything about weplab
[06:30] <brenner> but i'm gonna have to defer to the real gurus.  i'm not sure i could help you further. sorry
[06:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6731  <--- A screenshot HOWTO
[06:30] <phnxgk> brenner  is there a way to install it with out probing for hard ware?
[06:30] <monzie> hi all
[06:30] <daskog> I whant to know what the dev team did with the Flight 2 realease that made my system act like it had NOS?
[06:31] <monzie> has anybody here ever built Ubuntu from source
[06:31] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, I got it thanks for all the help
[06:31] <s_spiff> can someone help me with a firewall? I want to install one without disrupting my connection.
[06:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: For one thing, the interface is OpenGL accelerated... that might do it.
[06:31] <monzie> i would like to try doing that, any pointers?
[06:31] <brenner> phnxgk: not sure.  i've always used default
[06:31] <monzie> sudo apt-get install firestarter s_spiff
[06:31] <s_spiff> ok
[06:31] <phnxgk> brenner i know fedora core 3 wouldnt install unless i told it not to prob
[06:31] <s_spiff> thanks
[06:32] <brenner> s_spiff: might want to ask in #xchat on the scripts.  the guys in there are pretty cool
[06:32] <notenoughnicks> Is there a way to get the exit status of the command before the pipe, like getting the exit status of test in "test -f doesntexist | tee log"?
[06:32] <brenner> phnxgk: that's interesting
[06:32] <daskog> PuMpErNiCkLe, How long til next official Ubuntu release? tobad it's still under dev
[06:32] <brenner> but like i said, i'm not sure how you'd do that with ub
[06:32] <monzie> any channel on which the Ubuntu developers sit pe se?
[06:32] <monzie> or is this the one?
[06:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: The next 'stable' release is in April.
[06:32] <phnxgk> brenner susu installs, but it crashes on me.
[06:33] <brenner> phnxgk: then it could very well be a hardware issue
[06:33] <phnxgk> brenner the only distro that hasnt given me any probls is knoppix
[06:33] <monzie> Dapper Drake if i am not wrong
[06:34] <s_spiff> i though ubuntu is always under dev. as in they release a new version every 6 months right?
[06:34] <s_spiff> thought*
[06:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s_spiff: yes
[06:34] <daskog> April..ahh
[06:34] <s_spiff> then, are there any more builds to come in case of breeze badger?
[06:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s_spiff: But there's a period of a month or so when all they do is bugfixes.
[06:34] <monzie> no PuMpErNiCkLe
[06:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s_spiff: nope
[06:35] <daskog> It's like waitng for sex frome my girl =P
[06:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s_spiff: Breezy badger only gets bugfixes from now on.
[06:35] <brenner> phnxgk: i need to go.  good luck though.  keep coming back in here.  you might get someone else who can actually help you :-/
[06:35] <s_spiff> as in ?
[06:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s_spiff: All the new stuff is going to Dapper.
[06:35] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[06:35] <s_spiff>  so no more new packages for BB?
[06:35] <hejux> I Love Ubuntu!
[06:36] <hejux> so great!
[06:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s_spiff: Probably not.
[06:36] <s_spiff> I already downloaded the iso of Dapper Drake
[06:36] <spikes> I <3 Ubuntu
[06:36] <s_spiff> but i think i liked BB better than DD
[06:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s_spiff: Well, it is only a test build of Dapper...
[06:36] <s_spiff> NiCkLE is there a script which i can download for auto nick completion? its gets real tiresome to type all of it out in the righ way.
[06:37] <hejux> Dapper : linux kernel  2.6.15
[06:37] <s_spiff> ok.
[06:37] <ilba7r> s_spiff, use the tab key
[06:37] <Madpilot> s_spiff: if you're running XChat, just hit TAB
[06:37] <s_spiff> yeah ok.
[06:37] <skon> ..thanks for the tip
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> Can someone tell me how to put spacer lines in a grub menu?  What I tried didn't work.
[06:37] <skon> didn't know that heh
[06:38] <s_spiff> Madpilot : thanks
[06:38] <daskog> Iknow to little about Linux.. but Kernels are they to be released all the time or is it hard coded into every new distroes`? (like 2.6.15 for example)
[06:38] <s_spiff> hehe.. thanks cool.
[06:38] <skon> daskog, you can update the new ones whenever they come out
[06:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: They can be replaced - anything can be replaced - but it takes a lot of work to make them completely compatible with each release's way of doing things.
[06:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: so yes and no :)
[06:40] <daskog> Ok just the answer i needed
[06:40] <daskog> Hehe just what makes me love Linux
[06:40] <daskog> everything is posible
[06:40] <s_spiff> oen noob questuion
[06:40] <s_spiff>  how to install stuff on the pc?
[06:40] <Madpilot> daskog: Ubuntu will tell you if there are updates ready - look for the red circle thing up next to your clock
[06:40] <skon> s_spiff, what specifically
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> Also, our other computer, when using the 2.6.12-5 kernel, gives an error: Fatal, no module ext2, which cuts off the splash screen.  2.6.10-9 is fine.
[06:41] <Mr_Milenko> red circle with a green icon in it
[06:41] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[06:41] <s_spiff> as in i download a package , like opera, or firefox 1.5
[06:41] <Madpilot> s_spiff: easiest way is with Synaptic
[06:41] <daskog> well i dont use Ubuntu at the moment (im testing the live cd)
[06:41] <s_spiff> yeah, but synaptic doesn't always have what I want
[06:41] <s_spiff>  eg : FF1.5
[06:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: That's a bad error 0_o
[06:41] <skon> s_spiff, download it from the FF site then
[06:41] <s_spiff> i already installed it
[06:42] <s_spiff>  by using the commands given in wiki
[06:42] <s_spiff>  but wiki doesn't have the solution to all the programs..
[06:42] <Madpilot> s_spiff: there's a wiki page for Opera as well
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> PuMpErNiCkLe, It sure sounds that way, doesn't it?  The other kernel doesn't complain though, which seems odd.
[06:42] <s_spiff>  so wanted a basic idea as to how to do it?
[06:42] <Madpilot> !tell s_spiff about opera
[06:42] <skon> s_spiff, most of the programs you'll want to install will either have documentation or are avaiable through synatpic
[06:42] <daskog> iknow this is a loong shot in the dark, but do someone in here(or someone you know) Run/tryed Softimage XSI 5 on Ubuntu?
[06:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tonyyarusso: odd indeed
[06:43] <sorush20> guys any programs out there that has the ability to convert mp3 to wav and write to cdr?
[06:43] <s_spiff> skon, ok will check it out.
[06:43] <Madpilot> sorush20: lots - k3b seems to be the best
[06:43] <Corrupter> how do i install an rpm?
[06:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: Serpentine does, and I think it's defaulted in ubuntu.
[06:43] <skon> Corrupter, use the alien program
[06:43] <Corrupter> skon: ...?
[06:43] <sorush20> thanks
[06:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: Applications -> Sound -> Serpentine
[06:44] <skon> Corrupter, type man alien
[06:44] <Madpilot> PuMpErNiCkLe: Serpentine burns far too many coasters for me - k3b doesn't, although it isn't as easy to use
[06:44] <Corrupter> skon: no manual entry for alien
[06:44] <skon> Corrupter, sudo apt-get install alien
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> In a grub menu, I tried just having title and root lines with nothing after them to make blank spacers, but it just didn't show them.  How can I force space into the menu?
[06:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Madpilot: I only had that problem when I had a busted power supply and the entire computer crashed... since then it works perfectly. o_O
[06:45] <Kindred> I have a 100% success rate with Serpentine, only used it once though.
[06:45] <Mr_Milenko> would this be a bad PSU,
[06:46] <Mr_Milenko> My computer runs, but freezes no matter what HDD is in it or what cdrom its booted from or OS its using
[06:46] <Corrupter> i like gnome baker better
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mr_Milenko: Either teh PSU, the mobo, or the CPU.
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mr_Milenko: Or the RAM.
[06:46] <Corrupter> Mr_Milenko: it could be the RAM, the CPU, the mobo or the PSU
[06:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mr_Milenko: You can check the RAM with memtest.
[06:46] <Corrupter> lol
[06:46] <steve_laptop> where can I find a who to on madwifi?
[06:46] <Corrupter> you beat me to it
[06:47] <Mr_Milenko> too late this was years ago.. i stripped the pc
[06:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Corrupter: :D
[06:47] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[06:47] <daskog> How many would be intrested in a Adobe like creative suit for Linux?
[06:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ol
[06:47] <skon> steve_laptop, huh?
[06:47] <Mr_Milenko> now im running a peice of shit 399mhz system
[06:47] <Mr_Milenko> with the same HDD that was in that system
[06:47] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[06:47] <steve_laptop> im looking for the madwifi drivers
[06:47] <Corrupter> daskog: keep talking
[06:47] <Mr_Milenko> bah.. guys havin a problem
[06:47] <skon> !wifi
[06:47] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:47] <Madpilot> Mr_Milenko: so it's probably not that HDD, then..
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone answered the question yet about whether it's possible to have different desktop backgrounds on different workspaces?
[06:48] <Mr_Milenko> My cdrom is broken and im trying to boot Ubuntu in a Virtual machine
[06:48] <Mr_Milenko> copied the files over network to my hdd and made an ISO
[06:48] <Mr_Milenko> but its not bootable
[06:48] <Mr_Milenko> :(
[06:48] <Mr_Milenko> any thing i can use (on a windows pc) to make a bootable iso?
[06:48] <daskog> First of Adobe is not making a port! far as iknow about, but some friends of mine is planning to deal with it anytime soon!
[06:48] <adam_> hi there asl
[06:48] <Mr_Milenko> asl? rofl
[06:48] <daskog> just like Oppenoffice is for the world out there now
[06:48] <skon> Mr_Milenko, look up "DVD Burner"..there's a program
[06:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bahahaha
[06:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> asl :P
[06:49] <s_spiff> anyways thanks for the help
[06:49] <s_spiff> will be back later
[06:49] <s_spiff>  have to study right now
[06:49] <skon> Mr_Milenko, I can send it you if you want
[06:49] <Mr_Milenko> nah im ok
[06:49] <Mr_Milenko> dialup :P
[06:49] <skon> ok...it's only like 1MB if I remember right
[06:49] <Madpilot> !tell Mr_Milenko about iso
[06:49] <Mr_Milenko> i know
[06:50] <Madpilot> Mr_Milenko: that wiki page has Win iso burning apps mentioned as well...
[06:50] <Mr_Milenko> not trying to burn
[06:50] <Madpilot> Mr_Milenko: ah, nvr mind then...
[06:50] <Mr_Milenko> trying to create a bootable ISO from the files on the ubuntu install cd
[06:50] <Mr_Milenko> my cd drive is broken
[06:50] <steve_laptop> Thanks
[06:50] <Mr_Milenko> so i copied the files via network from my xbox
[06:50] <Mr_Milenko> rofl
[06:50] <daskog> but they need more developers on the team! anyway it will soon be all over the web i guess
[06:50] <Mr_Milenko> why! do you! keep talking like this, man!
[06:51] <Mr_Milenko> we get!! the picture!! you're excited!!!111shift+one
[06:51] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[06:51] <daskog> are you talkin to me!!
[06:51] <skon> Stop being childish
[06:51] <Mr_Milenko> I'm not being childish, I'm mocking him in a mature manor.
[06:52] <skon> manner
[06:52] <Mr_Milenko> whatever
[06:52] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[06:52] <Steve|> lol
[06:52] <DShepherd> lol
[06:52] <Madpilot> you're mocking him in a mature fancy house? what? :P
[06:52] <daskog> wtf
[06:52] <skon> !offtopic
[06:52] <ubotu> well, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:52] <skon> :-D
[06:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> o_O
[06:52] <Mr_Milenko> I'm in offtopic.. but nobodys active :(
[06:52] <Mr_Milenko> wait i was wrong
[06:53] <daskog> Okay..Back to Opensource ADOBE LIKE Creative suit...
[06:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mr_Milenko: Try telling them that Fedora rules ;)
[06:53] <daskog> dont any of you pay intrest to this subject?
[06:53] <Mr_Milenko> Fedora Blows!
[06:53] <uoou> what you mean daskog?
[06:53] <Madpilot> daskog: given that GIMP already exists, as does Inkscape, what's left to do?
[06:53] <Mr_Milenko> i think hes talking about the photoshop linux rumor
[06:54] <daskog> Lol
[06:54] <Mr_Milenko> and to be honest.. i prefer gimp over photoshop
[06:54] <daskog> people just don't get it
[06:54] <Davey`> gimp blows
[06:54] <Kindred> gimp is alright.  I hated it at first but..
[06:54] <Kindred> I'd still take photoshop though..
[06:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gimp is cool, so long as the feature I need is documented
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> yeah in all honestly it does come off as "What the hell is this.."
[06:55] <daskog> Belive it or not there will be a Opensource Creative pack in the coming 2 years
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> but it grows on you
[06:55] <ColonelPanique> Gimp is one of those bomboclot recursive acronyms, it be standing for "Gimp Is Mediocre Photoshop" boiiii!
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> lmao
[06:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> 0_0
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> GNU Infilitrated My Photoshop
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> Infiltrated*
[06:55] <Mr_Milenko> bah
[06:55] <uoou> Gimp is kinda shit but photoshop is a real pain in the ass to use
[06:56] <uoou> but a pain in the ass I'm used to
[06:56] <skon> Gimp is More Productive :-D
[06:56] <daskog> Gimp is hmm i dont have a word for it..but it's ugly
[06:56] <Madpilot> daskog: I'm still not sure what you mean by a "creative suite", honestly
[06:56] <uoou> ut us that
[06:56] <docta_v> what about gimpshop
[06:56] <uoou> I read about someone doing a PS-like interface for gimp
[06:56] <Kindred> the windows version of gimp is a horrible experience
[06:56] <uoou> I didn't try it though
[06:56] <docta_v> uoou: gimpshop
[06:56] <uoou> ta
[06:56] <Mr_Milenko> sure is but i didnt feal like buying Photoshop Kindred
[06:56] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[06:56] <Mr_Milenko> feel*
[06:56] <daskog> Ok lets list em up, Adobe page maker, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere
[06:57] <daskog> +++
[06:57] <Mr_Milenko> daskog, no offense... but it doesnt seem like anyone cares :-/
[06:57] <uoou> this is the trouble with linux I guess
[06:57] <daskog> yea i noticed...tobad realy
[06:57] <skon> Don't forget GPaint
[06:57] <Madpilot> daskog: PS = the GIMP, Illustrator = Inkscape, and there are already good HTML/web editors...
[06:57] <uoou> the only... area that's really well catered for is coding and stuff that relates to that
[06:57] <Mr_Milenko> TuxPaint!
[06:57] <skon> Yess
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol
[06:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TuxPaint :o
[06:58] <daskog> gimp haaaa..
[06:58] <Davey`> actually, InkScape is an amazing Vector graphics application
[06:58] <paulproteus|lapt> Madpilot: There are good Linux WYSIWYG HTML editors?
[06:58] <uoou> now if someone would port all the shit they have on osx to linux we'd be cool
[06:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> There are actually some pretty cool image manipulation programs for linux.
[06:58] <paulproteus|lapt> uoou: Totally. (-:
[06:58] <Mr_Milenko> agreed uoou
[06:58] <Davey`> paulproteus|lapt: the only one thats worth anything is Nvu, but it sucks still
[06:58] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[06:58] <Madpilot> paulproteus|lapt: WYSIWYG editors are never good, so who cares? :P
[06:58] <Kindred> there are no good wysiwyg editors
[06:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ie, potrace, which converts bitmaps to vector "drawing-style" images...
[06:59] <paulproteus|lapt> Davey: That's what I thought. (-:
[06:59] <Mr_Milenko> Dreamweaver
[06:59] <daskog> sorry but if the Gimp dev team cant stick to industrial standards the 99% of industry people whant use it! My creative studio is on the %
[06:59] <ColonelPanique> http://www.tradeshowhell.com/?q=penguinpiss
[06:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ColonelPanique: >_<
[06:59] <Mr_Milenko> who gives a rats arse about standards!
[06:59] <uoou> gimp, like most linux apps, is a good powerful app with a fucking awful inconsistent interface
[06:59] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[06:59] <Kindred> tables for everyone
[07:00] <Mr_Milenko> uoou chill with the cursing, at least try to hide it...
[07:00] <Mr_Milenko> (i noticed i slipped a couple times)
[07:00] <daskog> well im just sharing my toughts ..will newer do that again
[07:00] <uoou> why, is my nan here?
[07:01] <daskog> i guess people today is just to arogant or waaaay up there in the skyes
[07:01] <Mr_Milenko> There are minors in this channel, and the devs/ops and users seem to frown upon it
[07:01] <Madpilot> daskog: by "industrial standards" to you actually mean "how Adobe does it"?
[07:01] <daskog> noooo
[07:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mr_Milenko: The ops are paying attention? :o
[07:01] <daskog> did i say that?
[07:01] <Mr_Milenko> not today
[07:01] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[07:01] <Mr_Milenko> but we all know nalioth is lurking about
[07:02] <uoou> I swore more when I was a minor
[07:02] <uoou> was more fun back then
[07:02] <Mr_Milenko> uoou: you just dont know.. when i found out what the F word was.. i used it against my teacher
[07:02] <ColonelPanique> Madpilot : Adobe pretty much sets the standard, and as for industry standards, they use them, (e.g. CYMK press/pre-press, and Pantone color scales) ;-)
[07:02] <Mr_Milenko> i framed the warning slip that i got in kindergarten
[07:02] <uoou> haha
[07:02] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[07:02] <nalioth> uoou: please respect us with your language choices, this is a family channel
[07:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol
[07:02] <Mr_Milenko> i used it 27 times in one sentance
[07:02] <skon> like fox family?
[07:03] <Madpilot> ColonelPanique: that is one weakness in the GIMP so far, it's print support...
[07:03] <daskog> Madpilot, CMYK, Pt, Histograms, etc
[07:03] <Mr_Milenko> those were the days... ritalin... and kindergarten
[07:03] <daskog> higher bit rates
[07:03] <Mr_Milenko> you get free snacks and playdough
[07:03] <daskog> etc
[07:03] <Mr_Milenko> and a half hour nap
[07:03] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[07:03] <uoou> I'd take a decent interface over more features any day
[07:04] <Mr_Milenko> to be honest the interface doesnt bother me
[07:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> uoou: Irix? :)
[07:04] <Mr_Milenko> but alas... it can be "cleaned up" a little bit
[07:04] <daskog> i do believe that if gimp had made a better interface the proggie would get a whole lot better..as it is today it dont makes much sense to me..still with and open mind to it
[07:04] <uoou> haha
[07:04] <uoou> for gimp I mean
[07:04] <uoou> I agree
[07:04] <uoou> it's not so much the ugliness, aesthetics are secondary
[07:05] <uoou> it's just the inconsistency
[07:05] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:05] <ubotu> I guess offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> What I think would be really kick-ass for the gimp to have is customizable menus...
[07:05] <daskog> YES!
[07:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> That way you can get rid of functions you never use and make it easier to find the useful stuff.
[07:06] <j2daosh> ok... how do i fix a broken package? the manual way? i tried the fix in synaptic but that didn't work... i sudo rm'ed the files in question but i still get the errors
[07:06] <skon> j2daosh, did you try sudo apt-get update
[07:06] <j2daosh> yep
[07:07] <dustin_> can someone possibly help me out with cvscedega in a pm please?
[07:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> j2daosh: By the synaptic way, do you mean Synaptic -> edit -> Fix broken packages?
[07:07] <skon> j2daosh, what package
[07:07] <j2daosh> and sudo apt-get -f install
[07:07] <j2daosh> yep pumper
[07:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[07:07] <j2daosh> libfame-0.9******
[07:07] <nalioth> dustin_: have you tried #cedega ?
[07:07] <uoou> dpkg -remove ?
[07:07] <dustin_> no i havent, i just came here first
[07:08] <dustin_> will they help me with the cvs version?
[07:08] <j2daosh> the package is gone i believe
[07:08] <crimsun> j2daosh: didn't you ``apt-get remove libfame-0.9''?
[07:08] <nalioth> dustin_: they should
[07:08] <j2daosh> i just su rm'ed it about 3 minutes ago
[07:08] <dustin_> is it on freenode?
[07:08] <j2daosh> yeah but it gave me the same error crim
[07:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dustin_: yes
[07:08] <daskog> but for real, why have none tryed to make some realy good naitive artist tools for Linux? just instead of duplicating stuff frome other platforms?
[07:08] <dustin_> thanks
[07:08] <j2daosh> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libfame-0.9_0.9.0-0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libfame-0.9.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libfame0
[07:08] <uoou> rming it won't tell apt that it's not installed
[07:08] <skon> daskog, what was gimp from?
[07:09] <crimsun> j2daosh: that's because libfame0 was already there. You need to remove that one instead.
[07:09] <j2daosh> thats what it gave me... i got rid of the /usr and the /var one... there is no libfame0 though....
[07:09] <DJLILYAZI> how do i find where my browser files are ?
[07:09] <daskog> besides gimp lol
[07:09] <skon> DJLILYAZI, probably /home/username/.mozilla
[07:09] <uoou> daskog: I'd say lack of interest. Coders use linux so you get image making apps good enough to make icons or whatver. Designers use OSX so they're well catered for there.
[07:09] <daskog> sorry have no answer for that
[07:10] <Madpilot> daskog: have a look at Inkscape...
[07:10] <DJLILYAZI> skon, thats the thing its all empty
[07:10] <daskog> but i mean so many years why have not this evolved on the Linux platform?
[07:10] <skon> DJLILYAZI, what browser do you use
[07:10] <uoou> because designers don't use linux
[07:10] <j2daosh> because linux is essentially ibm
[07:10] <uoou> and even if they do, they don't code
[07:10] <j2daosh> microsoft is also ibm
[07:11] <daskog> did bill gates throw a big crack party back in the days and suckered all the Good nix developers?
[07:11] <uoou> there's an economy in open source. It's not cash driven but it's still there
[07:11] <dustin_> cedega peeps are dicks
[07:11] <Xenguy_> Hi - I'm trying to install 'cups' but I get error 'no installation candidate'.  Anyone know what's up with that?
[07:11] <dustin_> they wont help me because they pay for the service
[07:11] <j2daosh> mac's have a tight control over hardware and software
[07:11] <uoou> the demand is need and ability rather than cash
[07:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Yes :D  And the Borland ones, too... and etc.
[07:11] <skon> Xenguy_, are you using apt-get?
[07:11] <Xenguy_> skon: yes
[07:11] <ilba7r_> Xenguy_, i thought cups is already installed
[07:11] <j2daosh> therefore they can get more outta there hardware then an os trying to do alot of different things with it
[07:11] <skon> Xenguy_, yeah..cups is usualyl installed by default
[07:11] <Xenguy_> ilba7r_: dpkg -l cups <-- says no
[07:12] <Xenguy_> hrm
[07:12] <uoou> lilyazi, what do you mean by browser files?
[07:12] <ilba7r_> Xenguy_, it is the default print server
[07:12] <Corrupter> is anybody else having problems updating lately?
[07:12] <skon> Corrupter, with the security updates?
[07:12] <Xenguy_> ilba7r_: OK, so I'm wondering why the discrepancy
[07:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Corrupter: not really - I haven't noticed any updates, tbh.
[07:12] <j2daosh> yeah i am... but thats because i cant find a certain package that seems to be blocking all my updates
[07:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenguy_: dpkg -l cupsys ?
[07:13] <skon> Corrupter, I've been trying to update all night and I keep getting errors that it can't connect to the ubuntu security database....and I haven't changed my sources.list so it must be the server
[07:13] <Xenguy_> PuMpErNiCkLe: I was trying: dpkg -l cups
[07:13] <dustin_> is there a cvscedega channel?
[07:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenguy_: Try dpkg -l cupsys, then.
[07:13] <Corrupter> skon: i'm getting the same error
[07:14] <Xenguy_> PuMpErNiCkLe: OK, I'll do apt-cache show also
[07:14] <skon> Corrupter, makes me feel good :-D I didn't screw things up
[07:14] <j2daosh> dustin... do a /join #cvscegeda and let us know
[07:14] <lysis> hey; what DEBIAN sources can i add to apt-get?   i'm trying to install a program called ARDOUR but it's not able to find it with the sources included with breezy.   ardour claims it's on debian sources . . .
[07:14] <daskog> Just checked out Inkscape..looks promesing =)
[07:14] <uoou> I'm downloading inkscape
[07:14] <crimsun> lysis: ardour is in universe.
[07:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog, uoou : cool :)
[07:14] <j2daosh> !easysources
[07:14] <ubotu> j2daosh: Are you smoking crack?
[07:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !crack
[07:14] <hejux>  hey ! i am  using ubuntu , how to adjust the fonts of QT programme ?
[07:14] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[07:14] <uoou> anyone used Processing at all?
[07:15] <Mr_Milenko> rofl
[07:15] <Kr0ntab> Corrupter, I always just take off the "us." of my repositories....
[07:15] <j2daosh> !easysource
[07:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:15] <Kr0ntab> try that...
[07:15] <dustin_> j2daosh: no there isnt one on this server
[07:15] <Kr0ntab> I always have probs with the us mirrors...
[07:15] <daskog> i feel like i have to take this in my own hands.
[07:15] <lysis> crimsun, i have universe enabled.
[07:15] <Corrupter> krontab: thats what i usually do, but this isn't a US site, it's plantemirror or something like that
[07:15] <daskog> is it hard to Code for linux?
[07:16] <theconartist> .....
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: It can be...
[07:16] <Kr0ntab> hmmm... is that something you put in?  thats not a default mirror
[07:16] <daskog> what about java?
[07:16] <crimsun> lysis: that's because the package is called 'ardour-gtk'
[07:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell daskog about java
[07:16] <daskog> iknow a tiny bit Lol
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Some people worship it, some people hate it.
[07:16] <uoou> daskog: have a look at www.processing.org
[07:16] <hejux> hey ! i am  using ubuntu , how to adjust the fonts of QT programme ? any suggest ?
[07:16] <skon> Anyone know what unix services take up the most memory, generally?
[07:16] <daskog> 99% hoog
[07:17] <Corrupter> kr0ntab: i honestly have no idea whatsoever where it came from or what it updates
[07:17] <daskog> ya we love it
[07:17] <lysis> why would ardour's site not specify this!!! :(
[07:17] <Mr_Milenko> hejux: what is your native language?
[07:17] <morphix> on my other windows pc in the house.. i have Remote Administrator(radmin) installed on it so i could control it from this pc (when i'm in windows).. does anyone know of a linux app that can connect to radmin controlled pc's??
[07:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> skon: Check in system monitor...
[07:17] <hejux> Mr_Milenko, chinese
[07:17] <morphix> radmn > vnc
[07:17] <daskog> then we can just throw that other X2 core on and sprinkle some crack after words..yaaay
[07:17] <j2daosh> morphix
[07:17] <Mr_Milenko> nalioth: is there a chinese support chan?
[07:17] <j2daosh> u dont need vnc
[07:18] <j2daosh> go to applications...internet...terminal services
[07:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> morphix: Do you know if radmn works under Wine?  That might work...
[07:18] <lysis> crimsun, ardour could not connect to jack.   how do i get this to happen?
[07:18] <nalioth> Mr_Milenko: i believe there is, however i don't think there will be many folks there
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> hmm thought it might help him better then us trying to explain in english
[07:18] <Mr_Milenko> :(
[07:18] <crimsun> lysis: did you install and configure 'jackd', too?
[07:18] <Xenguy_> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks, it looks good now (I'll know soon :-)
[07:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenguy_: Awesome. :)
[07:19] <lysis> crimsun, i installed jack.  not sure how to configure.
[07:19] <morphix> hrm.
[07:19] <Xenguy_> BTW, I think it is a *stupid* idea to rename cups -> cupsys...
[07:19] <Xenguy_> too confusing
[07:19] <theconartist> lysis, run jackd --off
[07:19] <crimsun> lysis: not jack but jackd.
[07:19] <lysis> done.
[07:19] <theconartist> lol
[07:19] <j2daosh> lol
[07:20] <lysis> still won't connect.
[07:20] <theconartist> LOL
[07:20] <theconartist> rofl
[07:20] <hydroksyde> stupid nz.ubuntulinux.org
[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> OMG
[07:20] <theconartist> that made my day
[07:20] <crimsun> lysis: you have to configure jackd first
[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> priceless
[07:20] <crimsun> lysis: there are a variety of guides on the WWW
[07:20] <lysis> hmm.
[07:20] <hydroksyde> is there any way to configure the the update program to only bug me for security related updates???
[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> That should go to bash.org
[07:20] <theconartist> yes it should
[07:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> theconartist: You first. :)
[07:21] <lysis> hydroksyde, i think you would have to disable the rest of your sources from apt.
[07:21] <daskog> http://www.processing.org/
[07:21] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[07:21] <hydroksyde> ok
[07:21] <lysis> hydroksyde, leaving only the security sources un-commented.
[07:21] <hydroksyde> that's a pain
[07:21] <lysis> it is . . .
[07:21] <theconartist> PuMpErNiCkLe, bash.org keeps refusing my "connection"
[07:21] <daskog> what a nice site
[07:21] <hydroksyde> how retarded
[07:21] <lysis> i just do em all.   no reason not to for me.
[07:22] <crimsun> hydroksyde: anything new in -updates or -security is what triggers it.
[07:22] <hejux> you know the skype's face  seems very ugly under ubuntu
[07:22] <skon> How come apache says it takes up 223MB of virtual memory but when I shut it down, my memory level stays the same?
[07:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> theconartist: I'll do it, then.
[07:22] <hydroksyde> crimsun, interesting
[07:22] <crimsun> hydroksyde: and fwiw, anything that lands in either is worth being notified about
[07:22] <lysis> skon, are you sure it's no longer running in top / system monitor?
[07:22] <crimsun> hydroksyde: I'd disable breezy-backports, probably
[07:22] <skon> lysis, yes, it disappears and it no longer says 223MiB
[07:23] <ilba7r_> skon type free in a terminal and see your cache
[07:23] <lysis> and your RAM AND SWAP are not updating?
[07:23] <daskog> uoou, you work with coding etc?
[07:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> theconartist: http://www.bash.org/?599670
[07:23] <skon> lysis: they just change like 0.5% or whatever
[07:23] <theconartist> nice  work
[07:23] <ircleuser> does anyone know where i can get aac support for breezy?
[07:24] <uoou> daskog: not really. Most of my work is in flash, rest is php/mysql
[07:24] <theconartist> flash :/
[07:24] <daskog> hey how cool
[07:24] <skon> ilba7r_, doesn't change when i start or stop it
[07:24] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:24] <ubotu> it has been said that offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:24] <uoou> don't hate me
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> ircleuser, Check the restricted formats page for it.
[07:24] <nalioth> ircleuser: install gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad
[07:24] <uoou> I'm into art really
[07:24] <daskog> im moastly into 3d cgi vfx..but been paying more intrest to PHP/flash latetly
[07:25] <pablo928>  uoou:do you work in flasj with Linux?
[07:25] <lysis> skon, .5%?   are you sure you're looking at RAM and not LOAD?
[07:25] <daskog> no
[07:25] <uoou> no, just in windows
[07:25] <daskog> Windows
[07:25] <uoou> daskog: 3dmax?
[07:25] <daskog> but i whant linux for my 3d
[07:25] <daskog> render speed is awesome
[07:25] <skon> lysis: user memory, swap memory in Gnome system monitor
[07:25] <lysis> hmmm
[07:25] <ilba7r_> skon than you can check what program is using which resource using top
[07:25] <theconartist> roflztix
[07:25] <uoou> yeah
[07:25] <skon> lysis: is it because apache is listed as "sleeping"?
[07:25] <uoou> I have a friend who does that stuff for a living
[07:25] <lysis> skon, if apache is sleeping, it might not allocate the memory
[07:26] <daskog> Softimage XSI5
[07:26] <lysis> not the RAM anyway;  MAYBE the swap . . .
[07:26] <skon> well when does apache wake up?
[07:26] <uoou> oooh, the daddy
[07:26] <uoou> so have you had a look at ... ahh what's it called?
[07:26] <lysis> skon, when it's being USED it will wake.
[07:26] <daskog> uoou, did use 3d studio max but thats long time ago
[07:27] <uoou> blender, that's the one. Had a look at that
[07:27] <uoou> ?
[07:27] <lysis> skon, if something is happening to make apache actually do some work . . . load a page, update something . . . whatever . . . then it's ACTIVE.  otherwise it's ASLEEP
[07:27] <skon> lysis: okay that makes sense now
[07:27] <daskog> uoou, Yes allso been watching closely what they are doing, find the whole project realy cool
[07:27] <Diablo69> sup guys
[07:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Wup?
[07:28] <daskog> Blender has realy matured over the years
[07:28] <uoou> it's interesting - same problem as gimp (interface). I've had a play a few times though
[07:28] <uoou> aye it has
[07:28] <daskog> yea, only thing that makes me wonder thoe. How the he** do i use it
[07:28] <uoou> hahaha yeah
[07:29] <uoou> really have to read howtos
[07:29] <uoou> so har dto memorise, all on the keyboard
[07:29] <daskog> uoou, XSI, MAX, MAya all easy compared to Blenders interface (at least i think so)
[07:29] <uoou> yeah
[07:29] <uoou> only one that was as bad was lightwave. That had an awful interface back in the day
[07:30] <daskog> but Blender is free so im not giving it up..imagine it in a couple of years where will it be then?
[07:30] <uoou> yup
[07:30] <uoou> free is important I think
[07:30] <dustin_> if i try to use a command and it says not found, but if i locate the it and i get a bunch of locations /root what does that mean
[07:30] <marcster> hi. i just updated my kernel and now im using 2.6.12. where can i find kernel-sources and kernel-tree for this so i can reinstall nvidia driver?
[07:30] <Matthew_W> crimsun; are you here?
[07:30] <crimsun> Matthew_W: only for a for more minutes
[07:31] <Diablo69> hey I was wondering, I have been having this lame problem with hotplug, after I installed the ubuntu dvd/cd, I have tried both, the install went fine, but the system froze when it was starting hotplug, and I was wondering if I can mount what I have, so I can edit the kernel and recompile it without hotplug
[07:31] <uoou> I'm actually thinking of having a go at proper coding. I'm doing some pattern matching stuff and java is too slow
[07:31] <crimsun> Matthew_W: -for
[07:31] <daskog> I just saw some realy impressive Blender stuff the other day
[07:31] <Matthew_W> crimsun; there's some Option line to add to the Device part of the xorg.conf to force it to use DVI. What is this, because my xorg is hosed.
[07:31] <Matthew_W> (I can't get to a web browser to check x-x)
[07:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: There are a couple things you can do to fix that.
[07:31] <crimsun> Matthew_W: binary-only Nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <Diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: I am open for suggestions :)
[07:32] <Matthew_W> crimsun; I think so, yes.
[07:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: One is to hit ctrl-c one it gets to the 'loading hotplug' stage to make it skip that.
[07:32] <crimsun> Matthew_W: documented in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README*
[07:32] <daskog> uoou, What pattern stuff?
[07:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: (Or so I've heard... I've never tried it.)
[07:32] <kro> dvdauthor question.  It's creating a file named VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO but mkisofs -dvd-video looks for VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO.   Any ideas on how to fix that?
[07:32] <Diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: any others :)?
[07:33] <uoou> daskog: linguistics stuff. I'm looking into the indexicality of written language. It's currently working off a huge (millions of records) database and I've made a script to generate the info I need but it's going to take about 500 hours to execute
[07:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Another is to run chmod -x on /sbin/hotplug /etc/rc0.d/K89hotplug /etc/rc6.d/K89hotplug
[07:33] <daskog> uoou, ouch! what about C++?
[07:34] <daskog> or Python?
[07:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: That assumes you can at least boot once into Ubuntu or use a livecd or something.
[07:34] <uoou> daskog: yeah, I think that's where I'm going to have to look
[07:34] <Diablo69> can you pm me with instructions on how to dot hat
[07:34] <Diablo69> I have tried everything including dapper
[07:34] <Diablo69> and it won't run past the hardware/hotplug part
[07:34] <uoou> python would have the same probs as java I think
[07:34] <Matthew_W> crimsun; I don't think it's in here.
[07:34] <daskog> hmm probaly
[07:34] <Matthew_W> crimsun; I don't quite know what the TLS is, but I think that's it.
[07:34] <Sonderblade> if i remove ALL the -dev packages on my box will ubuntu break down?
[07:35] <dustin_> can someone help me out with cvscedega, the cedega channel has been no help
[07:35] <crimsun> Matthew_W: the dvi option is. I used to use those binary-only drivers.
[07:35] <uoou> saying that though, it's actually sql slowing me down at present
[07:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: And the final one that I can think of is if you have a combined 'onboard' graphics chip and a proper video card, remove the vid card and then try booting.
[07:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Hotplug has severe issues with that kind of setup.
[07:35] <Matthew_W> crimsun; erm.  Ok, well... *looks through readme again*
[07:35] <Diablo69> so take out my ati radion 9250 card?
[07:35] <crimsun> Matthew_W: it's the readme that Nvidia distributes
[07:35] <marcster> hi. i just updated my kernel and now im using 2.6.12. where can i find kernel-sources and kernel-tree for this so i can reinstall nvidia driver?
[07:36] <crimsun> Sonderblade: not at all
[07:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Only if you have another 'integrated' video controller.
[07:36] <Diablo69> I think I do
[07:36] <Diablo69> how can I be certain?
[07:36] <daskog> uoou, A friend of mine has develope some cinda C++ engine Like OpenGL is for Graphics that will speed up the runtime dramaticly..but im not that much into coding
[07:36] <Matthew_W> crimsun; I looked in the reading you pointed me to
[07:36] <crimsun> Sonderblade: by default it doesn't install any
[07:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Ummm... check the back of your computer; if you have another VGA port that's not on your video card, you do.
[07:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Or DVI, if that's what you have.
[07:37] <uoou> daskog: yeah, same really. I'm not interested in coding for its own sake. Just to produce artwork. SO, from that point of view I think learning c++ or something would waste  alot of time
[07:37] <crimsun> Matthew_W: README.txt.gz
[07:37] <Matthew_W> crimsun; how do I untar it?
[07:38] <crimsun> Matthew_W: just use vi to read it.
[07:38] <lysis> tar zxvf filename
[07:38] <lysis> that's how i always do it anyway . . .
[07:38] <uoou> brb
[07:38] <daskog> uoou, Id be intrest to know what tools you use for you art?
[07:38] <uoou> hang on, gotta reboot
[07:38] <uoou> back in 5
[07:38] <daskog> ok
[07:41] <Matthew_W> crimsun; how do I close vi?
[07:41] <crimsun> ZZ
[07:41] <Sonderblade> crimsun: ok thanks
[07:42] <Matthew_W> crimsun; z does nothing.
[07:42] <Matthew_W> Oh!
[07:42] <Matthew_W> lol
[07:42] <DRAGON_Ultra> exit
[07:42] <crimsun> those are two capital Zs
[07:42] <Matthew_W> Still, nothing o_O
[07:42] <crimsun> [esc] :q[enter] 
[07:42] <Satan> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanx
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: ?
[07:43] <Satan> I got d/c
[07:43] <Satan> this laptop is gay
[07:43] <Satan> <---Diablo69
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ah... right
[07:43] <Satan> yeah sorry
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np
[07:43] <Satan> last night I was "naughty-nurse"
[07:43] <Satan> hehe
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol!
[07:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> That's awesome...
[07:43] <Satan> yeah
[07:44] <Matthew_W> crimsun; I now have 3 of my 4 terminals locked w/ vi...
[07:44] <Satan> no body suggested ctl c to me before
[07:44] <Satan> odd on how simple some things are
[07:44] <Satan> do I have to do this every time
[07:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Does it work?
[07:44] <crimsun> Matthew_W: :q  exits
[07:44] <Satan> or can I google for a answer on how to recomplie my kernel without hotplug
[07:44] <Satan> and yes it worked
[07:44] <Satan> I think
[07:44] <Satan> its
[07:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sweet
[07:44] <Satan> installing packages
[07:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Okay, it worked, then.
[07:44] <Satan> I might have to make a page about that
[07:44] <Satan> google didn't have one
[07:44] <crimsun> Satan: hotplug is a userspace program. It has nothing to do with the kernel.
[07:44] <Satan> I have read at least 50 or 60 different things
[07:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> If you want to disable hotplug, once it's finished handling packages, run these commands:
[07:45] <Morg> I'm seeing evolution-excha, evolution-data-, and evolution-alarm when I do ps -e, but I want nothing to do with Evolution. How do I stop them from running?
[07:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> 'sudo chmod -x /sbin/hotplug' 'sudo chmod -x /etc/rc0.d/K89hotplug' 'sudo chmod -x /etc/rc6.d/K89hotplug'
[07:46] <Satan> PuMpErNiCkLe: to my understading hotplug just auto mounts your usb don't it?
[07:46] <Morg> And I do know it's an e-mail client. :)
[07:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: It handles that, and it also manages some hardware detection on boot.
[07:46] <Satan> hmmm thats what i thought
[07:47] <Satan> I just switched from fbsd
[07:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: It shouldn't be a big problem if you don't have it.
[07:47] <Satan> PuMpErNiCkLe: you familar with hacking psp's?
[07:47] <odat> hi everyone
[07:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: Nope, sorry.
[07:47] <DivGradCurl> Anybody know much about building a boot disk, 'initrd', and 'linuxrc'?  I'd like (need) to try something out of my league.
[07:47] <Satan> hmmm ok
[07:47] <Satan> I know how to
[07:47] <Satan> I hear you can mount usb devices on ubuntu
[07:47] <Satan> which is what you use
[07:47] <geforceter> noob warning::   "does the latest ubuntu support geforce 6600gt?"
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: yes
[07:48] <marcster> how do i add contrib and non-free ?
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: You'll probably want to install the nvidia driver, though, which doesn't come with the base install because of licensing issues.
[07:48] <daskog> driver 7667 does
[07:48] <Satan> PuMpErNiCkLe: what is your 2 favorite os you have tried?
[07:48] <daskog> i think
[07:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: Which means running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings"
[07:49] <geforceter> "i have the live 5.1 cd from the free Shipit and tried to boot it it does everytihng but when it startups the screen pecome full of purplish lines
[07:49] <DivGradCurl> Satan: Was the "I know how to" comment to me?
[07:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: Ubuntu and MacOSX
[07:49] <Satan> from what I have seen
[07:49] <Satan> ubuntu and fbsd are my favorites
[07:50] <Satan> I like to try something new when I get bored lol
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: Do you have a CRT monitor?
[07:50] <Satan> DivGradCur: what are you refering to?
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: Me too.. I think I'll try Solaris soon :D
[07:50] <Morg> How do I simply see if a package is installed or not?
[07:50] <geforceter> ya
[07:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Morg: If you know the exact package name, run 'dpkg -l name'.
[07:50] <Satan> yeah I tried to hack one of those boxes legally through a friend for a challange he gave us
[07:50] <Satan> and no one could do it
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Morg: If not, open synaptic and search for something kinda matching the name and pray. :D
[07:51] <Satan> not even my buddies who were going to take over a whole ton of computers with one worm
[07:51] <DivGradCurl> Satan: (Still) Trying to boot Ubuntu I just installed on a USB external hard drive using a computer whose BIOS doesn't support USB Booting.  Having a boot disk etc doesn't work, since the BIOS lacks the drivers.
[07:51] <timfrost> marcster, The ubuntu equivalents of these are universe (=contrib) and multiverse(=non-free).
[07:51] <Morg> PuMpErNiCkLe: Well, I'm doing this in a terminal
[07:51] <marcster> thanks
[07:51] <ilba7r_> Morg, you can use synaptic you can use sudo aptitude search if i is the first thing you see it is installed
[07:51] <Satan> DivGradCurl: I think I fixed that now
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Morg: Then use dpkg -l name_of_package
[07:52] <Morg> And if it's listed that means it's installed?
[07:52] <DivGradCurl> Satan:  Fortunately, somebody figured out how to do it for firewire and usb ( http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html ) but it involves something about building a linux kernel and special initrd.
[07:52] <Satan> hmmm
[07:52] <DivGradCurl> Satan: (see the two-phase boot section)
[07:52] <Satan> can you recomplie your kernel on ubuntu how you wish?
[07:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: That can be a problem with CRTs - it won't autodetect the right HorizSync and VertRefresh values.
[07:52] <Satan> recompile*
[07:53] <Satan> I always built my own custom kernel on freebsd
[07:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: That can be a problem with CRTs - it won't autodetect the right HorizSync and VertRefresh values.
[07:53] <DivGradCurl> Satan:  See, that I wouldn't know.  I've done tons of research on how this can even be done but am completely new when it comes to implimentation.
[07:53] <Satan> ahh ok
[07:53] <Matthew_W> Anyone know what the OPTION I would put in DEVICE in my xorg.conf file to allow it to use DVI?
[07:53] <geforceter2> so is there any solution?
[07:54] <Satan> geforceter: I think ctrl + c at boot up worked for me
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: Yeah, kinda... the monitor should have a label on the back or a button on the front that will show the right values.
[07:54] <DivGradCurl> Satan:  So, I get the general idea - build this and slip in this code here and this is the overarching strategy - but actually putting together the entire thing is where experience is a must.
[07:54] <Den> Hi - Any ubuntu developers here?
[07:54] <odat> gnome rocks!
[07:54] <geforceter2> the fH and fV??
[07:54] <Satan> DivGradCurl: programing isn't my strong point yet, but build, I mean comment out what I didn't want and add a few lines to the kernel to get sound support
[07:55] <daskog> yeah i Love those in the Lord of the ring to =P
[07:55] <Satan> by build*
[07:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: It shouldn't be a problem when you're not using a graphical interface, so if you can drop to a console, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', and when it gets to monitor configuration, select 'advanced' and enter the right values.
[07:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: That should fix it.
[07:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: Sounds about right.
[07:55] <geforceter2> ok
[07:55] <DivGradCurl> Satan:  Eh, if you recognize the words I dropped earlier and know how to build a boot disk, then I'd appreciate help going ahead.
[07:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: To get to a plain console interface, hit alt + F2
[07:55] <geforceter2> in the live cd can i choose to go to console?
[07:56] <geforceter2> ok
[07:56] <geforceter2> thanks al
[07:56] <Satan> uhh sure, pm me wiht what you need help with
[07:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: np :)
[07:56] <geforceter2> u were very helpful
[07:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thank you
[07:56] <DivGradCurl> Satan:  I have the advantage of having an external with the first phase of installation complete, two computers, one of which already has Ubuntu installed.
[07:56] <geforceter2> shall come back for more help
[07:56] <garry> To get back out of the plain console, alt F7
[07:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: Excellent. :)
[07:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter2: What garry said.
[07:56] <Satan> DivGradCurl: I used a usb dvd drive to install mine
[07:57] <geforceter2> ok
[07:58] <geforceter2> but is the config in sude easy?
[07:58] <garry> I remember, I got curous about going to console mode, but had to hit reset because I didn't know how to get back to the gui. .... Doh!
[07:58] <DivGradCurl> Satan: According to the guide, "we need to create two things, a kernel and an initrd image."  They provide code for the image, and it doesn't sound like much editing of the kernel is needed, but what it means to edit and build a kernel is new to me.
[07:58] <geforceter2> sudo i mean..
[07:59] <Satan> I have come from the land of freebsd LOL, I know it like the back of my hand..well for the most part, enough to manuaver around it for 2 years and get it to do what I want
[07:59] <Satan> oy shit
[07:59] <Satan> I tried to start x
[07:59] <DivGradCurl> Satan: By bad; they provide the linuxrc which apparently is "inside" the initrd.  Whatever "inside" means.
[08:00] <Satan> PuMpErNiCkLe: I seem to be at a cmd prompt, but x won't work
[08:00] <Satan> it crashed on me
[08:00] <Satan> with a error
[08:01] <DivGradCurl> So, yeah, where do I go about starting this entire project?  I assume I need to download something, make some changes - I think I understand what I need to change at this point - put it back together, and put it on a disk.
[08:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: What's the error?
[08:02] <Satan> uhh It crashed
[08:02] <Satan> let me reboot and try to see the error again
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: Relatively easy... it's completely interactive.
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: okay.
[08:02] <DivGradCurl> Satan: (a) Where do I get a "kernel", (b) how do I take it apart so I can tweak the initrd linuxrc, (c) how do I compile it back together, and (d) create an image and get it on a floppy.
[08:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: There are a lot of pre-made boot floppies - have you checked to see if there's one that matches your requirements?
[08:03] <freelove> even after doing pppoeconf the connection isn't started at boot time! even when i do pon it doesnt start!
[08:03] <freelove> ive to ppoeconf everytime i log in!
[08:03] <freelove> help!
[08:04] <DivGradCurl> PuMpErNiCkLe:  Yeah, but I alwas could have missed something.  The challenge here is that I have to create a virtual kernel that loads inself into the RAM, loads some drivers, detects the dang external, and then boots into the kernel on the external.
[08:04] <daskog> Is the Ubuntu team spending more time developing on the x86-64, x86 or both?
[08:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: woah
[08:05] <DivGradCurl> PuMpErNiCkLe:  I've already spent a bunch of time tweaking the grub already installed on the local machine, and it quite simply doesn't realize there is an external there before it tries booting!
[08:05] <NaughtyNurse> oy sorry
[08:05] <NaughtyNurse> <---Diablo69
[08:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NaughtyNurse: wb
[08:05] <DivGradCurl> Well, it is scarier than it sounds.  I think.  http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html provides some oustanding device.
[08:05] <NaughtyNurse> thanx
[08:05] <NaughtyNurse> I hate this damn winblows machine
[08:05] <Matthew_W> Does anyone know the option line you have to add to make a DVI monitor work in the nvidia drivers? I've SCOURED the readme...
[08:06] <odat> NaughtyNurse, lol
[08:06] <DivGradCurl> PuMpErNiCkLe: Everything I need to do it is intermediate from the looks of things.  However, I ain't intermediate.
[08:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: What are you? ;)
[08:06] <DivGradCurl> Oh, and if anyone tries to read the dang article I suggest just skipping down to the "Two-phase boot" sectons.
[08:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NaughtyNurse: Did you catch the error message this time?
[08:07] <NaughtyNurse> PuMpErNiCkLe: Screen is blue with a lot of jumbled stuff on it "Failed to start the X server (your graphical interface)  It is likely that it is not setup correctly would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?
[08:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NaughtyNurse: say no.. it's rarely relevant.
[08:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NaughtyNurse: Once the error message goes away, try logging in and running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.
[08:07] <NaughtyNurse> PuMpErNiCkLe: The X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly
[08:08] <DivGradCurl> PuMpErNiCkLe:  Completely new.  I used Norton Partiton to carve out room on my dads comp and then installed Ubuntu for him.  At this point, I know how to install Ubuntu, and how to move around in directories.  He asked me how to install Opera and I had no idea where to start (the forums held the answer)
[08:09] <NaughtyNurse> PuMpErNiCkLe: typed "sudo dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg" and it said sudo: Unable to lookup (none) via gethostname
[08:10] <DivGradCurl> I've been tracking this question fairly thoroughly, and there are a lot of people with the same problem and no answer.  This is the first method I've seen.  And frankly, it makes a lot of sense and doesn't seem too hard if one understands how to tweak kernels and burn images, which I believe is intermediate.
[08:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NaughtyNurse: wtf o_O
[08:10] <NaughtyNurse> PuMpErNiCkLe: isn't that f'd
[08:10] <odat> DivGradCurl, why do you want opera
[08:10] <DivGradCurl> Erp, I mispoke when I said "it is scarier than it sounds."  Got it backwards.
[08:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: tweaking kernels sounds more advanced to me
[08:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: It's one of the few things I haven't tackled...
[08:11] <DivGradCurl> odat:  I installed it for my dad, HE wanted Opera.  I use Firefox.
[08:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> NaughtyNurse: hmm
[08:12] <odat> DivGradCurl, if you can't figure out how to get opera on your machine how the hell you gonna reconfigure and compile a kernel
[08:12] <DivGradCurl> PuMpErNiCkLe:  Heh, I really have no idea how advanced kernel tweaking is.
[08:12] <garry> I've compiled kernels up the wazoo for slack, but I do not know about ubuntu, I'd hate to give out some advice that would wreck someone's system.
[08:12] <teja> sorry for offtopic question. how to enter rescue environment in freebsd?
[08:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: It's infinitely variable, so ^_^
[08:13] <geforceter> still no luck
[08:13] <Diablo69> oy f'ing winblows
[08:13] <Diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: any idea man
[08:13] <Diablo69> I need to completly turn off hotplug
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> teja: Try in #freebsd
[08:13] <odat> DivGradCurl, are you familiar with synaptic?
[08:13] <DivGradCurl> odat:  (a) I didn't give up on Opera, I just didn't know where to start.  And I'm not here asking for help with Opera because looking at the message boards and tweaking things around on my own is enough.
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: Can you login on the Ubuntu box?
[08:13] <teja> it says u require authentication or sth I dont know how to do
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: Have you tried downloading the installer from Opera.com?  They provide an ubuntu-specific version...
[08:13] <teja> please_register
[08:14] <DivGradCurl> odat:  I briefly read about Synaptic.  Either a bootloader or rescue thing, not 100% sure which.
[08:14] <ilba7r_> DivGradCurl, just go to opera website and add the deb repos to your source list
[08:14] <garry> if you drop hotplug, you might not have usb surpport. The latest kernel requires udev .71 which needs hotplug If I read correctly.
[08:14] <DivGradCurl> Oh, wait Synaptic is the package manager.
[08:14] <geforceter> i booted the live cd again then after all the loading it showend the screen full of lines then i alt+f2 but it didnt show the console
[08:14] <DivGradCurl> Yeah, that I figured out how to use.
[08:14] <__Dwayne> synaptic is a package manager
[08:14] <odat> DivGradCurl, yes here add this    deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free
[08:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> garry: But if he can't boot with hotplug on, he might as well drop it.
[08:14] <Madpilot> !tell DivGradCurl about opera
[08:14] <globe> how do I change my default mp3 player to xmms?
[08:14] <odat> now since microsoft bought opera i would expect to see it around for linux anymore
[08:14] <garry> PuMpErNiCkLe nods.
[08:15] <Diablo69> shit
[08:15] <vilmantas> what is wrong in proftpd config if it says anonymous password is incorrect?
[08:15] <DivGradCurl> odat:  Yep, already did.  But my point about Opera is that using Synaptic manager was new for me, not that I wasnt able to research it.'
[08:15] <Diablo69> any ideas on how to get aroundt his
[08:15] <Diablo69> or is the answr
[08:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: whoa, sorry - ctrl + alt + F2
[08:15] <Madpilot> odat: nobody's bought Opera, unless it's happened in the last 24hrs...
[08:15] <Diablo69> I can't have ubuntu on this box
[08:15] <ilba7r_> odat oh tthey did that
[08:15] <geforceter> hah
[08:15] <geforceter> ok
[08:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> geforceter: I'm slow today :=/
[08:15] <geforceter> nvm
[08:15] <odat> Madpilot, was in the news
[08:15] <geforceter> shall boot again now
[08:15] <vilmantas> what is wrong in proftpd config if it says anonymous password is incorrect?
[08:15] <DivGradCurl> Unlike Opera, building the two-phase boot disk is what I could use help with.
[08:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: MS didn't buy it...
[08:16] <Madpilot> odat: it's not on Opera's own homepage...
[08:16] <ilba7r_> did not see it on slash too
[08:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: There was a rumor, but the Opera CEO said it wouldn't happen.
[08:16] <dabaR> globe: right click on a mp3 file, select properties, open with>choose xmms
[08:16] <j2daosh> what is up people?
[08:16] <globe> dabaR: thanks.
[08:16] <DivGradCurl> Actually, a breezy install of opera is on their webpage.
[08:17] <Madpilot> odat: running "microsoft buys opera" thru Google News brings up only a round of silly rumours from before Christmas...
[08:17] <j2daosh> how do i fix unmet dependencies
[08:17] <Diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: Is there anyway to get ubuntu to work on my box?
[08:17] <j2daosh> DivGradCurl, hows it going... find anything on your compaq mobo?
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Can you log in through the console?
[08:17] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh:  Heya!
[08:17] <Diablo69> the screen flashes black then goes tot hat damn error
[08:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: After you dismiss the error message, though... can you login?
[08:18] <Diablo69> yes
[08:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: excellent
[08:18] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh:  Sort of.  The grub isn't the problem.  I did a ton of research, and found a probably solution here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html
[08:18] <odat> Madpilot, then i guess i got fooled by linuxtoday then
[08:18] <Diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: what now
[08:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: sudo chmod -x /sbin/hotplug && sudo chmod -x /etc/rc0.d/K89hotplug && sudo chmod -x /etc/rc6.d/K89hotplug
[08:19] <garry> I had a similar isue Diablo69, I set the drive it was on, as the first boot disk, and it started working.
[08:19] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh:  The "two-phase boot" section is the main point of interest.  It seems possible but relies on tweaking kernels and building/burning disk images.
[08:19] <Madpilot> odat: looks like it - it was just an oddball rumour that went around, I guess...
[08:19] <garry> might try what PuMpErNiCkLe said irst tho.
[08:19] <odat> Madpilot, ahhh my bad
[08:19] <garry> first
[08:20] <DivGradCurl> j2daosh:  Satan and odat were giving me some advice.  Any of you three curious to help me obtain/edit/build the proper kernel?
[08:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole, sorry ;D
[08:20] <odat> Madpilot, does opera still have that advertisment banner at the top of their browser
[08:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Sorry, that was to DivGradCurl
[08:20] <Diablo69> shit same thing
[08:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Ignore second last message
[08:20] <Diablo69> unable to lookup none via gethost name
[08:20] <Madpilot> odat: no, that's been for quite a while
[08:20] <odat> DivGradCurl, why are you trying to build a kernel
[08:20] <DivGradCurl> PuMpErNiCkLe:  *lol*  That's cool.
[08:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: Sorry, but out of my league with kernels. :D
[08:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Hang on a sec, I'm gonna look up that error...
[08:21] <DivGradCurl> odat:  " In a nutshell, the kernel is booted as normal; but instead of mounting the "real" root file system, a miniature root filesystem is created in RAM, and that is mounted. Any number of arbitrary steps can then be performed in this initial environment before the real root is mounted and we switch to using the real root and destroy the initial RAM disk.    This is useful in all sorts of circumstances, but for our purposes we w
[08:21] <Diablo69> k
[08:22] <garry> DivGradCurl, Its a lot of little steps, hard to explain it in full, there are so many variations, such as having to rename system.map in specific ways and the vmlunuz as well to keep a backup kernel avail via grub incase things go wonkers
[08:22] <Madpilot> odat: been *gone* for quite a while, I meant... :P
[08:22] <DivGradCurl> odat: " In order to use this method, we need to create two things, a kernel and an initrd image.    The kernel is just a regular kernel which has initrd support built in. The initrd image is a loopback filesystem image which contains our mini-root filesystem (this image can optionally compressed with gzip to reduce its size). " That about sums it up.
[08:23] <DivGradCurl> odat:  The thing is, I'd be building the kernel for a boot disk rather than an internal, so it is (relatively) safe.
[08:23] <Diablo69> DivGradCurl: I was thingin about your question with knowledge, read the fbsd handbook on compling a custom kernel foudn at www.freebd.org, adn that should explain to you some steps I took to do it, although I don't know if there the same
[08:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82900.html offers a potential solution
[08:24] <DivGradCurl> Diablo69:  *lol*  Cute.
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: from what's on that webpage, I think we can fix the 'sudo' problem, and from there get the rest fixed.
[08:25] <garry> Yeah, and I find so much out-dated info on kernel compiling that it is bound to be confusing and frustrating to those starting out on the brave adventure of kernel compiling.
[08:25] <Diablo69> ok one sec
[08:26] <garry> I've seen articles that stared out about compiling 2.6.x kernels, but the last half, pertained to kernel 2.4.x
[08:26] <Diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: where is it at?
[08:26] <Diablo69> I didn't see anythign about it
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: kinda everywhere
[08:27] <DivGradCurl> garry:  The article notes that anything 2.0.X should be enough.
[08:27] <Diablo69> you lost me @ PuMpErNiCkLe
[08:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Basically, what they suggest doing is rebooting, hitting 'ESC' once you get to Grub and selecting 'Recovery mode', and through that automatically gaining root access.
[08:27] <garry> DivGradCurl good to know thanks. It gets scary when I see it and don't expect it. :)
[08:27] <DivGradCurl> I don't think that it needs to be the same kernel you are even trying to boot to.  It simply needs to be a kernel that can load itself into RAM, do a scan for devices, and then boot to a specific partition.
[08:27] <Diablo69> ok let me do that
[08:28] <Diablo69> one sec
[08:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: k
[08:28] <odat> now i have some questions about opera lol thanks a lot divGradCurl
[08:28] <odat> lol
[08:28] <odat> anyone use it?
[08:29] <s_spiff> hey anyone know about oDC here? its a software I use to get on a local, LAN hub.
[08:29] <DivGradCurl> Diablo69:  btw, was there a non-bdsm website you were trying to point me to?
[08:29] <s_spiff>  I downloaded dcgui yesterday, but it coudn't connect to the specified hub.
[08:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: Occasionally... what's the problem?
[08:30] <DivGradCurl> odat:  Dad uses it for XP, it complained about missing libraries when I spent five minutes getting him to try to install it on Ubuntu.  Frankly, I'll worry about it once I have Ubuntu on my external!
[08:31] <tim> is it a Bad Idea to use official debian packages within ubuntu?
[08:31] <Satan> ooy fucking windows
[08:31] <Satan> and laptops
[08:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tim: kinda, yeah
[08:31] <Satan> damn battery was low so it went to "hibernate"
[08:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tim: Not terrible, but kinda.
[08:31] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, just want to know what is so nice about it
[08:31] <lastnode> hey aeon17x
[08:31] <lastnode> :)
[08:31] <DivGradCurl> Satan: My new keyboard comes with a hibername button build in.  Located directly between the "mute" and "volume down" buttons.
[08:31] <tim> PuMpErNiCkLe, why not?
[08:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odat: Try it and see. :)  Personally, I prefer FireFox's interface.
[08:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tim: Different compiler versions, different GlibC versions that they're compiled against... it can occasionally cause weird bugs.
[08:32] <Satan> PuMpErNiCkLe: it froze when it froze it said "[4294701.6700]  <0> kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[08:32] <lastnode> DivGradCurl, that is bad design, aint it?
[08:32] <Satan> then it says below that
[08:32] <Satan> [4294701.67700] 
[08:33] <DivGradCurl> lastnode:  Yes.  Very.  And it is the one button that I can't change.
[08:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: O_o
[08:33] <daskog> PuMpErNiCkLe, Are you realy one of them new Honda robots? lol arent you sleepy`?
[08:33] <lastnode> DivGradCurl, stick in a knife and kill it
[08:33] <God> one of my fallen angels is around here
[08:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> daskog: Not yet - I'm a night person. ^^
[08:33] <DivGradCurl> lastnode:  Somehow I doubt that hitting it with a knife will be any different than hitting it with my finger.
[08:33] <DivGradCurl> lastnode:  And we all know what happens when I do that.
[08:33] <javad> dudes:
[08:33] <javad> is winex free?
[08:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Satan: That sounds really really borked.
[08:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> javad: Yes.
[08:34] <daskog> Nice to see someone is givng good support...Night everyone
[08:34] <lastnode> DivGradCurl, switch it off, slide the knife in and pull it out, so you cant accidentally hit it anymore
[08:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> javad: You can get it from the repositories.
[08:34] <poningru> !info winex
[08:34] <mitrovarr> I have a little problem... I have twinview working with the tv-out, but whenever I leave the X server, the computer locks up completely
[08:35] <mitrovarr> anyone else experience that
[08:35] <odat> PuMpErNiCkLe, on linux i like to stick with the most support
[08:35] <DivGradCurl> Soooooooo....  is there anybody who wants to help me tweak a kernel.  I think it can be ANY kernel ANY distro as long as it is 2.0.X+.
[08:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: Have you tried in #linux or #kernel? ;)
[08:36] <odat> DivGradCurl, go start reading
[08:36] <Naughty-Nurse> damn box
[08:36] <Naughty-Nurse> grrrrr
[08:36] <javad> i dont have it in my reps
[08:36] <mitrovarr> I mean, it seriously freezes up, any sound playing continually repeats, etc.
[08:36] <javad> ill google it
[08:36] <Naughty-Nurse> same shit @ unable to sudo
[08:36] <DivGradCurl> odat:  Isn't that the answer to any noob's question?  I've spent days just figuring out this is even possible, so I don't consider myself lazy.
[08:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> javad: Open Synaptic, go to Settings -> repositories and add all of them.
[08:37] <dabaR> Naughty-Nurse: are you a male or female naughty nurse? Why are you unable to sudo? do you use your password, and get rejected?
[08:37] <Naughty-Nurse> <---Diablo69
[08:37] <Naughty-Nurse> <--satan
[08:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> javad: Also, it's called "xwine" for some odd reason... o_O
[08:37] <Naughty-Nurse> I keep getting d/c
[08:37] <DivGradCurl> PuMpErNiCkLe:  Not a bad idea.  This seemed a good place to start since (a) I'm an aspiring Ubuntu user (b) it MIGHT work with any kernel, not 100% if it must be a copy, and (c) this room is extremely active.
[08:37] <dabaR> <-- not reading all the time.
[08:37] <dabaR> I saw your nick, though.
[08:38] <dabaR> the diablo69 one.
[08:38] <dabaR> Naughty-Nurse: so, do you try your password?
[08:38] <Naughty-Nurse> I have tried
[08:38] <dabaR> Naughty-Nurse: do you have other users on that computer?
[08:38] <Naughty-Nurse> sudo chmdo -x "cmd"
[08:38] <Naughty-Nurse> and then I have tried su root
[08:38] <Naughty-Nurse> and it won't work
[08:38] <Naughty-Nurse> no fresh install
[08:38] <dabaR> what is cmd?
[08:38] <dabaR> oh, some command...
[08:39] <DivGradCurl> odat:  Actually, at this point I've been pointed to a bdsm site by one person here and then told to "go start reading".
[08:39] <linlin> !realplayer
[08:39] <ubotu> well, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> DivGradCurl: lol
[08:39] <Awal> asdf
[08:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Awal: o_O
[08:39] <dabaR> Naughty-Nurse: then you need to reboot, and choose recovery mode in grub. it will let you choose that if you hit escape while bootuing. In recovery mode, "adduser userName admin" then "reboot -n"
[08:39] <Razor-X> does anyone have an idea why xpdf refuses to refresh the bottom of the document area?
[08:40] <Awal> lol
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> doesn't work if I am not root
[08:40] <dabaR> userName is gonna be your user name. you will add your user name to the admin group, and anyone in admin group can sudo using their user name,.
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> and I can't get root
[08:40] <dabaR> !sudo
[08:40] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> which pises me off
[08:40] <Razor-X> I dunno.... xzgv has also been working a bit weird after the Breezy upgrade
[08:40] <dabaR> Naughty-Nurse: you will be root when you boot recovery mode,
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> naw
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> It froze on hotplug again
[08:40] <Razor-X> they both use freetype, I tried reinstalling libfreetype6, but to no avail
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> so I hit ctrl c to by pass
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> it
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> and it won't work right
[08:40] <Razor-X> I think they both use motif, so I reinstalled that too, and same thing
[08:40] <odat> DivGradCurl, i come here to help out and ask a couple questions of my own but honestly i track down a lot of my problems while i'm in here   it works better if its a combination of the two
[08:40] <Naughty-Nurse> I am wodnering if ubuntu hates my guts
[08:41] <dabaR> Razor-X: I have issues with e-vince, it goes blank a lot of the time.
[08:41] <srbaker> yo
[08:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> srbaker: Wup?
[08:41] <dabaR> YO@@!
[08:41] <srbaker> i had my roommate burn a copy of the PPC livecd
[08:41] <srbaker> but my mac mini won't boot it
[08:41] <mitrovarr> I've had e-vince do that.  If you sit and wait, sometimes it appears.
[08:41] <srbaker> is there something special i need to do to get it to burn from nero?
[08:41] <Razor-X> dabaR: for me, the very bottom seems to not refresh, it carries on portions of the document
[08:41] <dabaR> srbaker: hold down "c" while booting.
[08:42] <garry> Might be time to start unplugging things Naughty-Nurse to see if you can discover what device is causing the hang.
[08:42] <srbaker> dabaR: i did
[08:42] <Naughty-Nurse> I did
[08:42] <srbaker> it didn't boot off the cd
[08:42] <Naughty-Nurse> could it be my ati radion graphic card?
[08:42] <Razor-X> I like evince... but I don't use many GTK programs, so it becomes a pain to load it, but evince works perfectly in the few times I tried it
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> How can I put spaces between entries in a Grub menu?
[08:42] <dabaR> srbaker: did you burn it as a cd image? a bootable CD...
[08:42] <srbaker> dabaR: burned it as a cd image
[08:42] <beoba> assuming i plugged an external firewire drive into my computer, what should it's /dev entry be?
[08:43] <garry> Possibly the ATI. folks seem to have some nightmares with ati and linux, but I've heard of work arounds.
[08:43] <Naughty-Nurse> shit
[08:43] <Naughty-Nurse> well I had to put it in for x to run on fbsd
[08:43] <Naughty-Nurse> I tank
[08:43] <Naughty-Nurse> should I try and take it out
[08:43] <garry> On my system, a firewire shows up like a sata or usb. ... dev /sdx#
[08:43] <Razor-X> I'm looking for another common depend between xzgv and xpdf
[08:43] <dabaR> srbaker: well, as long as you do not just have a .iso file on teh CD it should boot. maybe a different key needs to be held down, like the apple key or something.
[08:44] <beoba> yeah, i'm not finding any sd* in /dev
[08:44] <srbaker> i was thinking that it might not have written the boot sector
[08:44] <DivGradCurl> odat:  I understand completely the need to read.  But to be frank, this is an issue that isn't well addressed by Ubuntu, anywhere, and I've had to do a shitload of research to figure out what I already have.  Coming to the conclusion that a regular boot disk and a tweaked grub won't do the trick already has tweaked out my "new stuff to read about" part of my brain.
[08:44] <srbaker> i'll try again
[08:44] <dabaR> Razor-X: you can do apt-cache show-depend, I bet you tried.
[08:44] <garry> If ye have a spare card, maybe. but i think you might find a fix b y googling for your ati brand and linux.
[08:44] <beoba> and dmesg is being uninformative
[08:44] <Razor-X> dabaR: I am :)
[08:44] <ilba7r_> beoba, the sound dev is /dev/dsp
[08:45] <beoba> ilba7r_: looking for a harddrive
[08:45] <Naughty-Nurse> I think I have a onboard card
[08:45] <Razor-X> dabaR: but ``apt-cache depends foo'' is the syntax
[08:45] <Naughty-Nurse> not sur though
[08:45] <dabaR> right
[08:45] <beoba> i'll tweak around with it a bit
[08:45] <Razor-X> they both use libx11-6, but that's about all they have in common :(
[08:45] <DivGradCurl> odat:  So, yeah, sorry if asking for help building a kernel makes me lazy, but so far the most constructive piece of advice has been "go check out another room".
[08:45] <Rikolete> hi
[08:45] <Razor-X> can someone holler out to the MOTU's to do a recompile of libfreetype?
[08:45] <sethk> DivGradCurl, what's your question?  I just got here
[08:45] <garry> Bios should be able to disable if it's integrated, but I'm hoping google will help you and you won't have to go as far as disabling ATI and swapping in a card.
[08:46] <Naughty-Nurse> uhh gary
[08:46] <Naughty-Nurse> I have tried google
[08:46] <ajmitch> Razor-X: eh? why?
[08:46] <Naughty-Nurse> how would I do the bios thing
[08:46] <Razor-X> ajmitch: some of my libfreetype programs are being a little buggy after the Breezy upgrade
[08:46] <garry> dang. I see. yeah, google sometimes just returns piles of useless info.
[08:46] <Razor-X> ajmitch: that, and libx11 are the only common libs I can see in the depends
[08:47] <Razor-X> (other than, of course, stuff like libc)
[08:47] <sethk> Naughty-Nurse, root is easy.  what's your problem with it?
[08:47] <Naughty-Nurse> bbl
[08:47] <j2daosh> naughty... go get to bios restart and before it loads anything hit either del key a few times or f2 key a few times
[08:47] <Razor-X> ajmitch: xzgv refuses to load more than a screenfull of thumbnails with `u' and xpdf doesen't refresh the bottom inch-or-so of the document
[08:47] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  Need to do the "two-phase boot" thing from http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-fireboot.html .
[08:47] <Naughty-Nurse> somebody needs this damn box
[08:47] <ajmitch> Razor-X: and freetype is in main, so complaining to MOTUs won't help - you'd also need to get a bugreport filed as to why you really think it's freetype's fault
[08:47] <sethk> DivGradCurl, ok...
[08:47] <beoba> well, i'm fairly sure the computer is seeing it, as i get stuff like this in dmesg:
[08:47] <beoba> [4298336.585000]  ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023
[08:47] <Razor-X> ajmitch: oh that's right! not MOTU's hmmm
[08:47] <beoba> [4298336.586000]  ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023
[08:48] <Razor-X> ajmitch: you're a MOTU, right?
[08:48] <DivGradCurl> sethk: Basically, I "need to create two things, a kernel and an initrd image".
[08:48] <ajmitch> Razor-X: yes
[08:48] <sethk> DivGradCurl, ok ...
[08:48] <Razor-X> ajmitch: you have an idea why it's doing this?
[08:48] <ajmitch> Razor-X: no :)
[08:48] <Razor-X> meh
[08:48] <ajmitch> since I haven't seen the problem nor heard of it from others
[08:48] <fujisan> i'm having a problem with the timeslice kernel takes about 3 jiffy's too long,,,
[08:48] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  However, I'd appreciate some guidence on downloading, editing, recompiling, and burning a kernel to a boot disk.
[08:48] <Razor-X> xzgv is still livable with, but xpdf malfunctioning is... annoying
[08:48] <fujisan> any experts?
[08:48] <sethk> DivGradCurl, ok, but you'll have to ask more specific questions
[08:49] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  I've read the article in depth, and feel comfortable doing the tweaking on my own.
[08:49] <sethk> DivGradCurl, ok, but what don't you feel comfortable with?
[08:49] <Razor-X> unless someone can reccomend something that uses the poppler engine and doesen't use GTK or QT
[08:50] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  I am still a bit new.  Where do I go to get a kernel, what does it mean for something to be "inside it".  Also, supposedly "Within the initrd image, there is a file called linuxrc".  A file within a file?
[08:50] <sethk> DivGradCurl, correct
[08:50] <sethk> DivGradCurl, because an initrd (with 2.6 now changed to initramfs) is a file system image
[08:51] <sethk> DivGradCurl, the default for 2.6 is that the initrd is a cpio archive
[08:51] <DivGradCurl> cpio archive?
[08:51] <sethk> DivGradCurl, if you are used to windows, it's equivalent to being in, say, a zip archive
[08:51] <sethk> DivGradCurl, that's a file within a file
[08:51] <garry> Ok, kernels can be had from www.kernels.org if I recall. Read the readme, and the changes. I can't with the initrd thing because when it comes to initrd in ubuntu I just don't know.
[08:51] <sethk> DivGradCurl, cpio is a program for copying, backing up, etc.
[08:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Haagen Dazs is the best commercially available ice cream, and I have some right now.  Life is good. :D
[08:52] <DivGradCurl> Got it.  And the initramfs is merely an image that contains the linuxrc file?
[08:52] <sethk> DivGradCurl, not just the linuxrc file
[08:52] <sethk> DivGradCurl, a complete, although small of course, root file system
[08:52] <garry> And I always get the full source and extract somewhere for tweaking, I've found the patches flakey
[08:52] <Razor-X> lemme try and seriously compile xpdf, I downloaded a tgz package and it had the same problem, hopefully a compile will fix it
[08:52] <Razor-X> if it doesen't , it's a lib problem
[08:52] <DivGradCurl> btw, thank you very much for letting me know that the initrd had been changed.  Saved me hours of probable confusion.
[08:53] <odat> DivGradCurl, maybe Damn Small Linux will do what you want
[08:53] <sethk> DivGradCurl, I believe the old format is also supported, but the cpio format is much much easier to make
[08:53] <onkarshinde> Anybody using cipherfunk repos?
[08:53] <DivGradCurl> Okay, so the initramfs is an image, I understand the idea there.  What is its relationship to a kernel?
[08:53] <sethk> DivGradCurl, what is happening here is this:
[08:54] <sethk> DivGradCurl, you are creating a root file system that will be a ramdisk, that will be used only during the first stage of boot,where you can do insmod of the kernel modules that you need to boot
[08:54] <onkarshinde> Where can I find public key of cipherfunk repos?
[08:54] <sethk> DivGradCurl, in this case, insmod of the kernel module for firewire
[08:54] <garry> the initramfs commonly is loaded with modules needed to sucessfully boot. Otherwise, it might need the module, before it has loaded the code that can load the module. the ole chicken and egge.
[08:55] <sethk> DivGradCurl, so, the kernel temporarily uses initrd as its root file system
[08:55] <garry> storage space for modules needed to boot.
[08:55] <DivGradCurl> Right.  Basically, load an artificial os that loads drivers and then loads the real os after detecting it?
[08:55] <sethk> DivGradCurl, I'm not sure what you mean by "os" in that sentence.  Remember it is the same kernel being used
[08:56] <DivGradCurl> That is the theory, which besides being really cool also requires some technical expertise (like building and burning a kernel).
[08:56] <sethk> DivGradCurl, you have two root file systems, one kernel.
[08:56] <sethk> DivGradCurl, so it isn't quite correct to speak of two os
[08:56] <DivGradCurl> ...
[08:56] <DivGradCurl> Ahhhh, I hadn't realized that.
[08:56] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  No, I had misunderstood not mispoke.
[08:56] <sethk> DivGradCurl, if you aren't familiar with it, do a man on chroot
[08:56] <Razor-X> where do the libmotif dev files live?
[08:57] <onkarshinde> Where can I find public key of cipherfunk repos?
[08:57] <srbaker> yo
[08:57] <BigKahuna> does the ubuntu live cd have any security utils? can I use it to crack an XP admin password?
[08:57] <srbaker> i can't figure out how to get it to boot the live cd on the mac mini
[08:57] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  Okay, give me a second.  Booting the other comp into ubuntu.
[08:57] <srbaker> i burned the live cd on nero
[08:57] <crimsun> Razor-X: lesstif-dev/universe
[08:57] <onkarshinde> srbaker: did you burn the right cd?
[08:58] <srbaker> trhe ppc livecd
[08:58] <srbaker> yes
[08:58] <onkarshinde> srbaker: I don't know how macs work but there must be some sort of bios setting
[08:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BigKahuna: No.
[08:58] <srbaker> no
[08:58] <Razor-X> crimsun: locally?
[08:58] <srbaker> you're supposed to be able to get it to boot from disc by holding
[08:58] <srbaker> C
[08:58] <srbaker> doesn't work here, tho
[08:58] <srbaker> open firmware boot doesn't work either
[08:59] <crimsun> Razor-X: packages.ubuntu.com/lesstif-dev
[08:59] <DivGradCurl> sethk/garry: Found http://www.kernel.org/, which has kernel archives.
[08:59] <onkarshinde> srbaker: did you check md5sum os iso before burning?
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> srbaker: Can you try burning it using Apple's Disk Utility?
[08:59] <blood> how do i open /etc/apt/sources.list: ?
[08:59] <srbaker> i don't have any blank cds left
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> blood: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:59] <blood> thx
[08:59] <onkarshinde> blood: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'
[08:59] <dabaR> crimsun: do you know whether ":syn on" for vim works through ssh with putty?
[09:00] <crimsun> dabaR: yes
[09:00] <onkarshinde> Where can I find public key of cipherfunk repos?
[09:00] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  But I do know that my system is booting something involving 2.6.12-9-686.  Is this something unique to Ubuntu or will a generic linux one work?
[09:00] <Razor-X> crimsun: after you've downloaded the package libmotif-dev, where should it go to?
[09:00] <mommer> hullo. I want to recompile my kernel but want to change only one setting. Is there a way to install the sources for my current kernel (stock ubuntu. Just finished installing)? I see a few "source" packages but none is explicit about that point
[09:00] <dabaR> I can not get it to do it, I will check whether it works at all when I get home, if I remember.
[09:00] <garry> Hmm, can't reply, The kernels are in the archive, there is a key, you click on C to see change log, F to download kernel.
[09:00] <sethk> DivGradCurl, oh, sorry, I didn't realize you were looking for that, I would have told you.
[09:00] <odat> blood, are you just trying to add some more repos?
[09:00] <sethk> DivGradCurl, completely generic to linux
[09:00] <dabaR> crimsun: how about with screen?
[09:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mommer: What setting?  It's possible it can be changed without recompiling.
[09:01] <DivGradCurl> sethk:  Right, so what I need to do is get the kernel from where it was installed on my external, make some tweaks, recompile it, and then put it on a floppy?
[09:01] <crimsun> Razor-X: you'd dpkg -i [..] , and it'd be in /usr/X11R6/include/Xm
[09:01] <dabaR> crimsun: my os X terminal can do colors with os X vim. But when I use ssh to my Ubuntu, it does not work, I will see when I get home.
[09:01] <ksmurf> anyone running dapper that has issues with gnome panel control?
[09:01] <crimsun> dabaR: works fine with screen, too (depends on $TERM)
[09:01] <mommer> PuMpErNiCkLe: there is some frequency setting - I keep forgetting the name - that has to be lowered. Otherwise my laptop keeps making an anoying high-pitched sound.
[09:01] <mommer> I think that gets compiled into the image
[09:02] <dabaR> $TERM is screen in screen. xterm in ssh
[09:02] <sethk> DivGradCurl, you can put it on your machines mbr, and have it dual boot (if that is windows), which is probably easier than making a floppy
[09:02] <garry> Oh ouch, latest kernels don't support booting from floppy. I thought ye might be burning to cd.
[09:02] <sethk> DivGradCurl, I would use a bootable cd, if possible, instead of a floppy
[09:02] <DivGradCurl> Okay, going to leave this logged on here for when I reboot the Ubuntu box and use 'StokesTheorem' there temporarily.
[09:02] <Razor-X> crimsun: ah, thanks
[09:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mommer: Uh, sure.... hang on a second...
[09:02] <sethk> garry, I've done it to cd for years.  Didn't  know that floppy booting isn't there.
[09:02] <dabaR> crimsun: how come text goes blank in evince a lot of the time with pdf files, do you know anything about that?
[09:03] <dabaR> crimsun: I use openbox, won't matter likely.
[09:03] <Mr_Molez> can any 1 tell me how to install the kernel source for breezy ?
[09:03] <onkarshinde> garry: I don't think floppy booting is kernel specific
[09:03] <crimsun> dabaR: I don't; file a bug in bugzilla if it's reproducible
[09:03] <mommer> PuMpErNiCkLe: timer freequency, I think.
[09:03] <garry> sethk yeah, nice. :) I usually just edit my lilo and rename my old kernels and system map and other things so that the old kernel is saved.
[09:04] <dabaR> crimsun: oh it is. I may do that, I am a lazy bug reporter, it kinda works, when you click on the blank area.
[09:04] <Mr_Molez> PuMpErNiCkLe: hey ur that bzflag spammer :D
[09:04] <StokesTheorem> Okay, back.
[09:04] <sethk> garry, I still have a 2.4 kernel saved.  :)
[09:04] <dabaR> Mr_Molez: aptitude search kernel-source
[09:05] <garry> onkarshine yep, I think a lilo on a floppy works, just need to still have kernel on the HD unless I misread the info, which would not be a surprise if I did.
[09:05] <StokesTheorem> sethk:  I need it to be generic so I can use it wherever I may roam, and although I much prefer a cd, I should probably use a floppy until I have it down better so I don't burn through twenty cds.
[09:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mr_Molez: No, that was some guy pretending to be me.
[09:05] <sethk> StokesTheorem, cd-rw
[09:05] <Mr_Molez> dabaR: ive done a search but it only comes up with 2.4* and 2.6.10/11 .. but breezy has 2.6.12
[09:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mommer: sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[09:05] <Mr_Molez> PuMpErNiCkLe: oh ok
[09:06] <Razor-X> crimsun: where does libfreetype6 live?
[09:06] <StokesTheorem> sethk:  One sec...  because the only thing harder then what I'm trying to do is digging through piles of CDs!  This may take a minute!
[09:06] <crimsun> Razor-X: dpkg -L libfreetype6
[09:06] <Razor-X> crimsun: ok
[09:06] <sethk> StokesTheorem, just a suggestion, because I hate floppies.  :)
[09:06] <Razor-X> crimsun: ah, many thanks
[09:07] <vultaire> question: gnome just spontaneously restarted on me.  Is there any way I can check a log to see what might have caused this?
[09:07] <sethk> StokesTheorem, but remember older machines may not be able to boot from cd
[09:07] <garry> Yeah, floppies are often like IOU's written on ice cubes.
[09:07] <garry> in summertime
[09:07] <dabaR> with invisible ink
[09:07] <garry> hehe
[09:08] <garry> black ink on black paper.
[09:08] <fujisan> whahahaahahaha
[09:08] <fujisan> such humor whahahaahahahaha
[09:08] <fujisan> stop gary please
[09:08] <fujisan> :(
[09:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vultaire: sudo gnome-system-log
[09:08] <garry> hehe
[09:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vultaire: Or from the CLI, check /var/log for anything that seems relevant.
[09:09] <mommer> PuMpErNiCkLe: it asks me for a version. uname -a returns 2.6.12-10, but this does not appear among the options I get from apt-get
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> How can I put spaces between entries in a Grub menu?
[09:09] <coz> morning all
[09:09] <fujisan> garry they should make a jarhead type of flick starring nerds, geek, losers, etnic monorities :)
[09:09] <fujisan> Minorities*
[09:09] <mommer> PuMpErNiCkLe: or rather. It tells me that I should specify a version.
[09:09] <StokesTheorem> I've seen more computers these days that don't have floppy drives than don't have CD booting.  But I agree, floppys are a huge pain.
[09:09] <garry> fujisan hehe, yep.
[09:09] <vultaire> pumpernickle: thx
[09:10] <coz> happy one week into the new year
[09:10] <fujisan> I had a black girl in my class who was in a wheelchair
[09:10] <ajmitch> !offtopic
[09:10] <ubotu> it has been said that offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[09:10] <fujisan> so the teacher said once to her you have it all: YOur a female , handicapt and black
[09:10] <fujisan> :P
[09:10] <ajmitch> fujisan: take it elsewhere
[09:11] <fujisan> ajmitch:  i will soz
[09:11] <fujisan> happy new year ajmitch
[09:11] <StokesTheorem> Holy...  I found a CD RW.  God is on my side tonight!  Albeit a bide scratched...
[09:12] <fujisan> lol
[09:12] <coz> Well I assume we are all "sudo experts" now, right?
[09:12] <StokesTheorem> sethk:  I assume there is an easy way to delete and burn things on this sucker in gnome.
[09:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mommer: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[09:12] <fujisan> didnt god gave us freewill?
[09:12] <garry> Ubuntu is a great sudo tutorial
[09:12] <Linuturk> what's the best way to see what inf file is associated with a particular device?
[09:12] <StokesTheorem> sethk:  Okay, now what files do I need to dig out for my kernel.
[09:13] <fujisan> ajmitch:  ubunto-offtopic is empty
[09:13] <StokesTheorem> fujisan:  Yes, he gave us all free will.  But tonight he also gave me a CD RW.
[09:13] <sethk> StokesTheorem, the kernel source archive.
[09:13] <fujisan> this is offtopic hour
[09:13] <fujisan> :)
[09:13] <fujisan> like happy hour
[09:13] <fujisan> :))
[09:13] <ajmitch> no it's not
[09:13] <fujisan> i'm joking geeez
[09:13] <mommer> PuMpErNiCkLe: hey thanks. That is there.
[09:13] <fujisan> lol
[09:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mommer: np... took me awhile to find it :)
[09:14] <StokesTheorem> sethk:  Is that somewhere online, or simply a file on the external's root partition.
[09:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wtf, this is wacked...
[09:14] <sethk> the kernel?  its a tarball from kernel.org (or from ubuntu)
[09:14] <fujisan> i'm having a problem with the timeslice kernel takes about 3 jiffy's too long,,,
[09:15] <mommer> yeah, it seems it is a stock kernel.
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I open the gnome logfile viewer from it's place in the applications menu... not only does it take like half a minute to open, which is crazy slow on my computer, but it opens one virtual workspace to the right. o_O
[09:15] <mommer> does ubuntu keep its kernel tree secret? :-)
[09:15] <fujisan> lol
[09:15] <fujisan> A jiffy is an actual timeunit mommer
[09:16] <fujisan> 1 jiffy = 1/100th of a second
[09:16] <ajmitch> mommer: not secret at all
[09:17] <garry> The latest kernel 2.5.15 is a big changes, need to upgrade udev, and it does away with devfs and you have to compile the udev if you are unlucky as I was and could not find a precompiled udev.
[09:17] <StokesTheorem> sethk: will /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-686 work?
[09:17] <mommer> ajmitch: i presume so. It would be nice if oune could install the very same sources that were used to build the current kernel.
[09:17] <fujisan> i don't get why they won't use the source code
[09:17] <ajmitch> mommer: you can, easily
[09:17] <Mr_Molez> how do i get mp3 support for ubuntu ?
[09:17] <mommer> ajmitch: aha - what is the trick?
[09:18] <ajmitch> linux-source, or apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r`
[09:18] <dabaR> !mp3
[09:18] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:18] <ajmitch> if you're trying to build modules, getting the current linux-headers is usually enough
[09:19] <garry> ubotu is such a helpull widdle bot. :)
[09:19] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, garry
[09:19] <christian_> I'm trying to put up a server. I've got apache2 installed. But which HTTP server should I choose?
[09:19] <StokesTheorem> sethk:  Also, the only halfway-run install on the external uses 2.6.12-9-686, while I believe Breezy upgraded to 2.6.12-10-686.  Should I download the newer, or go with the older until I upgrade on my external?
[09:19] <fujisan> There is a story....
[09:19] <mommer> ajmitch: linux-source is the stock kernel. I'll try the second one....
[09:19] <fujisan> about an alien that lands on Earth. The alien wishes to return home with the knowledge of all books on Earth. Unfortunately, his spaceship is so small that he can only take with him a small stick. So what he does is the following.
[09:19] <sethk> StokesTheorem, I wouldn't try to figure this out and change kernel versions at the same time.
[09:19] <dabaR> +b
[09:19] <trappist> fujisan: wtf does that have to do with ubuntu
[09:19] <sethk> StokesTheorem, get it working, then worry about updating the kernel.
[09:19] <fujisan> First, he digitizes each book. This translates each book in one huge, but finite, number. Then he attaches all these numbers to each other, which results in an enormous, but still finite, number. In front of this number he places "0.", turning it into a fraction between zero and one.
[09:20] <Jnx> I'm trying to put up a server. I've got apache2 installed. But which HTTP server should I choose?
[09:20] <ajmitch> fujisan: I told you about off-topic stuff
[09:20] <coz> fujisan as much as i appreciate ok jokes I think ajmitch is right
[09:20] <coz> it is one thing to get banned for being right then you have the badge of honor but not for telling jokes
[09:21] <stevea> hey, i'm trying to install a wireless usb lan card, and in the readme it says i might not need to build my kernal manually... i think i do though
[09:21] <Jnx> Does anyone in here know anything about HTTP servers??
[09:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> fujisan: shut the fuck up
[09:21] <poningru> fujisan: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:21] <mommer> "dpkg-source: command not found". Hm...
[09:21] <coz> Light heartedness is great and there is a place for it here
[09:21] <coz> but...
[09:21] <stevea> it says check /usr/src/therunningkernal/.config to see if you can but i don't have anything under /src/
[09:21] <Jnx> coz, have any knowledge about HTTP servers?
[09:22] <trappist> stevea: look in /boot for the config of the running kernel
[09:22] <garry> At lease I note we are not humor impaired. :)
[09:22] <coz> Jnx unfortunately no that is my nephews arena
[09:22] <trappist> stevea: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[09:22] <coz> fujisan what Os are you running?
[09:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> he was banned
[09:22] <coz> unbann him
[09:22] <stevea> trappist - is that exactly what i'm meant to type? sorry i'm new to linux
[09:22] <mommer> install dpkg-dev, of course.
[09:23] <crimsun> he's not banned; he's muzzled for continually spamming the channel with off-topic cruft.
[09:23] <Jnx> coz, do you know of a way I can shut down my port: 80 procccesses? Because, when I try to run my HTTPD, I get: Could not listen on port 80.  dhttpd/1.02a failed to start
[09:23] <trappist> stevea: it's not a command, but if you for example put "vi /boot/config-$(uname -r)" that would open the config
[09:23] <stevea> oh ok
[09:23] <dabaR> cruft...
[09:24] <Kr0ntab> exit
[09:24] <coz> Jnx sorry guy as i said networking is my nephews arena i am strictly residential/coporate without netowrking we work together
[09:24] <Kr0ntab> oops
[09:24] <Jnx> coz, ok. Thanks anyway
[09:24] <coz> Sorry jnx
[09:25] <coz> I think i mentioned this here the other night
[09:25] <sethk> Jnx, you can find the processes with lsof or netstat -p, if that's what you mean
[09:25] <garry> I seem to remember something about mysql using port 80 but it was a sleepy night, could have bene another app entirely.
[09:25] <coz> but I found that ubuntu is extra sensitive to a dirty or previously occupied hard drive
[09:25] <Jnx> sethk, thanks. I'll try that
[09:25] <coz> tested it out again three times this evening with the same results
[09:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[09:26] <StokesTheorem> sethk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/linux-image-2.6.12-9-686 is what I'm looking for, yes?
[09:27] <mommer> coz: indeed.
[09:27] <coz> I ususally use seagate's disk utility to low format the hard drive before any install however
[09:27] <sethk> StokesTheorem, I think the source has a different name, and you need the source
[09:27] <coz> someone on the ubuntuforums channel suggested an app named "Dban"
[09:27] <Mr_Molez> i also need that kernel source
[09:27] <coz> I tried it and although it appears to be a wiping utility it does, at the end of the cycle write zeros to the drive
[09:28] <Jnx> sethk, do you happen to have an idea why this happens when I write apache2 in terminal. Error: netstat -p
[09:28] <Jnx> oops
[09:28] <Jnx> sethk, do you happen to have an idea why this happens when I write apache2 in terminal. Error: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[09:28] <Jnx> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[09:28] <coz> I also am guessing that many problems , quoted on this channel, may be avaoided with a utility like thi before the install
[09:28] <coz>  though I would give some small results of the test
[09:28] <AussieExile> hey i try to load the unbuntu live cd and it says it cant load my graphics driver, i ave the ATI 200m
[09:28] <AussieExile> unbuntu**
[09:28] <woodwizzle> can you have multiple homepages in epiphany like you can in firefox
[09:28] <AussieExile> ubuntu*****
[09:29] <StokesTheorem> sethk: This, then?: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/linux-source-2.6.12
[09:29] <sethk> Jnx, if you are running as an ordinary user, you can't access ports < 1024
[09:29] <sethk> StokesTheorem, yes, I believe so
[09:29] <Jnx> sethk, I used sudo.
[09:29] <stevea> can someone go through the installation process of this hardware with me please? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59001&package_id=158645&release_id=343983
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> How can I put spaces between entries in a Grub menu?
[09:29] <stevea> i'm new to linux/ubuntu and i have no idea how to install it
[09:29] <sethk> Jnx, perhaps another process still have the port?
[09:30] <Jnx> hm, I can't really think of which process would be using the :80
[09:30] <Jnx> sethk,  have any idea of which process might use it?
[09:30] <Mr_Molez> ahh apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 works :D
[09:30] <sethk> Jnx, do this:   lsof -i :80
[09:31] <StokesTheorem> sethk: linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz vs linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-9.23.diff.gz
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> I'll take a look stevea.
[09:31] <Jnx> Didn't get any feedback.
[09:31] <Jnx> sethk, Didn't get any feedback.
[09:31] <sethk> StokesTheorem, the diff is for the case where you are changing kernel versions, already have source, and only want files that have changed
[09:31] <Nikusan> samba problem, when I try "/etc/init.d/samba start
[09:31] <Nikusan> " I get "/etc/init.d/samba: line 24: 10178 Aborted .... [fail] ". It was working fine yesterday and as far as I can tell nothing has changed. Any ideas?
[09:31] <stevea> tonyyarusso: thanks
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> stevea, You've downloaded the .tar.bz2?
[09:31] <sethk> StokesTheorem, you want all of it.
[09:31] <stevea> yep
[09:32] <Jnx> sethk, the command didn't respond. Just prompting for another command. Just as there wasn't any processes using :80
[09:32] <stevea> i'm actually on my laptop at the moment and i'm trying to install that lan card on my pc
[09:32] <mommer> Mr_Molez: that's the source from kernel.org, not the source of the kernel you are running (proably)
[09:32] <hydroksyde> will I get much better performance from upgrading from a Celeron 333 to a Pentium II 350?
[09:32] <coz> hydroksyde YESS
[09:32] <redhook> are there i686 packages? all this i386 stuff is slow
[09:32] <sethk> Jnx, then that's not the reason.  Hmm, what's the exact error again?
[09:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hydroksyde: kinda mebbe not so much depending on what you do
[09:33] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[09:33] <Jnx> sethk, (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[09:33] <Jnx> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[09:33] <Mr_Molez> mommer: well spotted :P
[09:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hydroksyde: Celerons apparently overclock better than Pentiums, so you can possibly just overclock it to compensate for teh difference.
[09:33] <coz> hydroksyde Celerons are crap processors andy real pentium will give better performance
[09:33] <hydroksyde> PuMpErNiCkLe, i'd rather not... I'm selling this machine
[09:33] <redhook> PuMpErNiCkLe: no you cant, celerons have much less l2 and and a slower fsb
[09:33] <sethk> Jnx, If you do netstat -na | grep 80       you get nothing?
[09:34] <coz> hydroksyde better yet go with an amd
[09:34] <StokesTheorem> sethk:  Obtained!
[09:34] <mommer> Mr_Molez: it seems that what works is: cd to /usr/src (as root) and do "dpkg source linux-image-`uname -r`"
[09:34] <Diablo69> well good new PuMpErNiCkLe
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> stevea, Okay, you're going to open up a terminal, and cd to the directory you downloaded that to.
[09:34] <hydroksyde> coz, K6s aren't as fast as P-IIs
[09:35] <Diablo69> I took out my ati radion card and it will get past hotplug
[09:35] <Diablo69> BUT
[09:35] <coz> wrong
[09:35] <Diablo69> it still says x server is configured wrong
[09:35] <Stinkywrix> need some help. basically I downloaded the world of warcraft trial off of fileplanet, but I can't get it to open with either winzip or the regular archive manager.  It gives me an error with
[09:35] <coz> amd K6 and K7 are much snappier that pentiums
[09:35] <Mr_Molez> mommer: yeh i was just reading the forums and did that, thanks :)
[09:35] <garry> probaly have to reconfigure it now.
[09:35] <Stinkywrix> [/home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip] 
[09:35] <Stinkywrix>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[09:35] <Stinkywrix>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[09:35] <Stinkywrix>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[09:35] <Stinkywrix>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[09:35] <stevea> tonyyarusso: done
[09:35] <Stinkywrix> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of /home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip or
[09:35] <Stinkywrix>         /home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip.zip, and cannot find /home/willie14/Desktop/world_of_warcraft_install-1.zip.ZIP, period.
[09:35] <coz> I am running k7 right now on this machine
[09:35] <Jnx> sethk, I get some stuff. unix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     11880    private/relay
[09:35] <AussieExile> i need help with the Live version of ubuntu
[09:35] <Jnx> unix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     13680    /tmp/orbit-xxx/linc-1ff4-0-4b857470b333f
[09:35] <Jnx> unix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     13480    /tmp/orbit-xxx/linc-1ff4-0-4b857470b333f
[09:35] <Jnx> unix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     13180    /tmp/orbit-xxx/linc-1ffb-0-7deaba939e3a1
[09:35] <Jnx> unix  3      [ ]          STREAM     CONNECTED     12980    /tmp/.esd/socket
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> stevea, Then, tar -jxvf atmel*
[09:35] <Diablo69> howw would I reconfigure it gary
[09:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> redhook: That's true, but they're crazy overclockable.
[09:35] <Diablo69> just reinstall it?
[09:35] <redhook> PuMpErNiCkLe: good way to fry a system too
[09:35] <Stinkywrix> anyone know whats up?
[09:35] <coz> it is a 600mgz I believe and it wipped the pentium 1 gigherz processor rather celeron
[09:36] <sethk> Jnx, no, it has to be in the external section and look like this:      0.0.0.0:80
[09:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> redhook: Cheap way to upgrade it if you keep it within reasonable limits. :)
[09:36] <sethk> Jnx, assuming it is listening for all connections.  just look for :80
[09:36] <garry> I forget, someone help please use folks with poor memory?
[09:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> http://arstechnica.com/paedia/celeron_oc_faq.html
[09:36] <jinroh> How do you enable backports?
[09:36] <redhook> PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah, and then you start wondering where all these stability problems come from after a while
[09:36] <coz> jinrogh the gui way is to go into add applications
[09:36] <Jnx> sethk, tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN <- that was on the top of what I just pasted.
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> stevea, That will create a directory with all of the files that were in the zipped archive.
[09:37] <sethk> Jnx, ok, there's your problem.  Now use -p to find out what process that is
[09:37] <Mez> !tell jinroh about backports
[09:37] <Diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: should I reinstall ubuntu now, or try to reconfigure x server, cuz I have no clue on how to reconfigure x server
[09:37] <garry> I think the /etc/x11/xorg.conf file tells you how to reconfigure.
[09:37] <coz> jinrogh then settirepositories
[09:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Have you managed to get root access yet?
[09:37] <coz> settings repositories
[09:37] <Diablo69> uhh not sure
[09:37] <Diablo69> I haven't tried that
[09:37] <StokesTheorem> sethk/garry: Okay, so I have a bunch of files.  And now?
[09:38] <coz> right click on each click add then tick the blank check boxes
[09:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Because if you can't get root access, you can't really reconfigure anything...
[09:38] <tonyyarusso> stevea, cd into that new directory.
[09:38] <sethk> StokesTheorem, now you do make xconfig
[09:38] <stevea> ok
[09:38] <stevea> done
[09:39] <Jnx> sethk, I'm sorry. But I haven't used linux for too long. Anyways,  netstat -p | procces name? :P
[09:39] <sethk> Jnx, netstat -nap | grep :80
[09:39] <garry> StokesTheorem read README and documentation/changes
[09:39] <redhook> is there a way to update my system to i686 binaries? this i386 stuff is real slow
[09:40] <garry> Yes, red, but its tedious, ye have to get the source and recompile. A bit of a pain.
[09:40] <stevea> tonyyarusso: what next?
[09:40] <trappist> redhook: a) not really, there's not.  b) i686 won't be noticeably faster than i386 for most things.
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> stevea, Now it looks like this doesn't have a configure in the main directory, so we'll try something which will probably work, and if not I have a plan B.
[09:40] <redhook> trappist: wanna bet?
[09:40] <stevea> oh ok
[09:40] <StokesTheorem> sethk/garry:  Okay, reading now...
[09:40] <redhook> garry: ok, just going to put gentoo back on then
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> stevea, So, in that directory, do sudo make && make install
[09:40] <trappist> redhook: yes.
[09:40] <Diablo69> holy shit
[09:40] <Diablo69> I see xorg
[09:40] <Diablo69> :)
[09:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69:  :O
[09:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> What happened?
[09:41] <stevea> argh
[09:41] <garry> redhook ok, good luck. I hear gentoo is nice.
[09:41] <Diablo69> it was my fucking graphics card
[09:41] <redhook> trappist: I can assure you that i686 compiled binaries run much faster on i686 then i386 binaries
[09:41] <stevea> tonyyarusso: it says i must have root privledges to install the driver
[09:41] <trappist> redhook: mkay
[09:41] <tonyyarusso> stevea: Did you put the sudo in front?
[09:41] <redhook> garry: it is, I just installed ubuntu because I heard it was nice... its a disappointment though
[09:41] <garry> nods.
[09:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: lol
[09:41] <redhook> no real control, cheap hacked up debian
[09:41] <stevea> tonyyarusso: yep
[09:41] <Diablo69> something popped up about updates
[09:41] <Diablo69> what should I do?
[09:41] <Diablo69> or what is it
[09:42] <trappist> redhook: are you just here to troll, or do you have another question?
[09:42] <stevea> i typed "sudo make && make install"
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> stevea: Try sudo make && sudo make install
[09:42] <Jnx> sethk, thanks alot :) I found the procces and killed it. Apache is able to start now.
[09:42] <redhook> trappist: if I was here to troll I'd be talking in leet
[09:42] <stevea> tonyyarusso: ok it worked
[09:42] <coz> redhook what is the problem?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> stevea, Any output at all?
[09:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: That'll be security updates since the official release... you'll probably want to install them, if you have a decent net connection.
[09:42] <Diablo69> ok
[09:42] <Diablo69> can I change the wm
[09:42] <stevea> tonyyarusso: well actually it says usb directory already exists, pci directory already exists, same as bin and xllr6 bin
[09:42] <Diablo69> to enlightment?
[09:43] <stevea> tonyyarusso: then it says run #deopmod -aeq after installation
[09:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Probably - I think they have enlightenment in the repositories.
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> stevea, Hmm, not sure what the implications of that are.  I'd do what it tells you though.
[09:43] <stevea> depmod sorry
[09:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Never tried it myself, though, so I can't advise you there.
[09:43] <stevea> tonyyarusso: how do i run that?
[09:43] <Diablo69> what would it be under?
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> stevea, Now, some things have been developed to be easier than their documentation claims, so if that gives you any grief, you can always go back and do the smart, but not so fun thing of reading the README for further instruction (in that same directory).
[09:44] <stevea> tonyyarusso: oh never mind i got it... but it says permission deined
[09:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: it's in the 'universe' repository - just search for 'enlightenment' in synaptic
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> stevea: The # indicates that the command needs to be run as root (normal users are $), so that too will need sudo in front.
[09:44] <stevea> tonyyarusso: yeah i tried reading the readme before but it said all this stuff about need a kernal source
[09:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: Then 'mark for installation' and then pray it works :D
[09:45] <Diablo69> id on't see a universe
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> stevea, Yeah, doesn't look pretty, so if this works be thankful.
[09:45] <stevea> tonyyarusso: so i type "sudo depmod -aeq" ?
[09:45] <mommer> the .config seems to have been kept . /boot in the past. Is this no longer the case or didi something go worng in the install?
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> stevea: Yep.
[09:45] <stevea> tonyyarusso: ok i did that but... nothing happened..
[09:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6734
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> stevea: Generally things only tell you if they don't work, so take that as a good sign until you find out otherwise.  In this case, testing whether your hardware works.  If not, read the instructions.
[09:46] <mommer> darn. It lacks a dot of course
[09:47] <stevea> tonyyarusso: so basically.. it should be installed?
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> stevea: We hope so anyway, yes.
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> stevea: So that's the basic process for installing things from source in a tar archive.  Some things to note though:
[09:48] <stevea> tonyyarusso: ah ok. Well is there any application for setting up the wireless lan card? I have wep encryption on my WLAN
[09:48] <mommer> Hm... This is not working.
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> stevea: The j in your tar command is for when it's a .tar.bz2.  If it's .tar.gz, use tar zxvf, with a z instead.
[09:49] <stevea> tonyyarusso: ah ok
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> stevea: That'll depend on the card, and is beyond the scope of my knowledge.  My card worked out of the box, I just had to put in some info under System > Administration > Networking.
[09:49] <Diablo69> trying now wish me luck :)
[09:49] <stevea> ah ok
[09:49] <stevea> thanks
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> stevea: Also, if the unpacked directory contains an executable file named configure, install, or any such thing, you'll add a step.
[09:50] <garry> To save old kernels, rename your vmlinuz, your system.map to filename-2.6.Y.R where Y is minor number, and Y is release candidate, and change lilo accordingly, then your old kernels are saved and still bootable. I don'tl know about how to rename the initrd.gz
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> stevea: For those, most commonly you'll see configure, in which case you do sudo ./configure && make && make install
[09:50] <foampeace> ya hear on the news they said windows cant handle web code cause it isnt code lol what the hell is it then :o
[09:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Diablo69: break a leg :)
[09:51] <stevea> i see
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> stevea, The ./ tells it to run a command that is a script in the current directory, rather than looking in the normal command tree.
[09:51] <garry> a virus?
[09:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Okay, I'm going to sleep now.
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> stevea, That's all I've got, so good luck!
[09:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Peace out everyone!
[09:51] <Diablo69> uhh I marked it and isntalled tit
[09:51] <garry> yeah, same here, bushed. Gook luck to ye all.
[09:51] <Diablo69> it*
[09:51] <stevea> tonyyarusso: thank you very much :)
[09:51] <Diablo69> then it froze the package manager did at least
[09:51] <jinroh> coz:  I went to Add Applications/Settings/Repositories but I didn't see where you add backports.  I click the Add button and checked community supported option.  Is this how you add backports?
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> stevea, np.
[09:52] <Diablo69> do I have to restart x for the new theme?
[09:52] <Mez> !backports
[09:52] <ubotu> I heard backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[09:52] <garry> oh for the kernel compiles at least for nvidia ye will need to reinstall/recompile the nvidia driver.
[09:53] <foampeace> ~note. windows is a virus. keep handing out your ubuntu cd to infected users
[09:53] <Jnx> garry, do you have any knowledge on Apache?
[09:53] <Stinkywrix> I love ubuntu, its great. ^_^
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> foampeace, Am doing!  Kind of hard to convince them though.  So I just wait until they next time they talk about their computer crashing, and cackle.
[09:53] <Madpilot> foampeace: there's a sig I see sometimes: "Play a Windows CD backward, and it plays satanic messages - but that's nothing, because if you run it forwards it installs Windows..." :P
[09:53] <SweetestSavage> Me too Stinkywrix, it is great =)
[09:53] <garry> jnx none really. I hear its named as a patchey web server, but it seems quite popular.
[09:54] <foampeace> dont get to close to windows users, use a suit and a reach stick if you have to get the ubuntu cd to them
[09:54] <SweetestSavage> Stinkywrix, what were you using before Ubuntu?
[09:54] <Diablo69> when I choose a new wm, will it automatically put it on, or will I have to shut x down and start x again for the new wm to come up
[09:54] <Jnx> garry, hehe, ok. Thanks anyway
[09:54] <Stinkywrix> I was using windows. >_>
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, I always get a kick out of that one.
[09:54] <SweetestSavage> Stinkywrix, me too, for 10 years ;)
[09:54] <foampeace> a reach stick with a dinosaur let them know you mean business lol
[09:54] <alex__> is it possible to adcd a protocol afp to the connect to server utility ?
[09:55] <SweetestSavage> Stinkywrix, how long ago did you switch?
[09:55] <garry> jnx welcome
[09:55] <Stinkywrix> I've been using Ubuntu for about a month.
[09:55] <SweetestSavage> Stinkywrix, ahh, I see. I made the transition a couple of weeks ago.
[09:56] <StokesTheorem> (away for a bit)
[09:58] <Diablo69> whats the difference b/w complete removal and removal?
[09:59] <Stinkywrix> complete removal gets rid of everything related to the file. removal only gets rid of the important stuff.
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> I've run through the whole gamut of typewriters, a Commodore 64 (not much OS to speak of really), DOS (two computers, neither with a hard drive, the first running 5 1/4 inch floppies, the second the newer diskettes), Macintosh (before it was pretty and modern), and Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000, and XP, and now Ubuntu, as of last August.  And I'm not even 20 yet.  And yes, I have actually done work on all of the above, and
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> turned it in for school.  At least now my family has caught up on the technology front.
[09:59] <Madpilot> Diablo69: complete removal nukes the config files and such too
[09:59] <marcster> hi. i have an ubuntu installation on a partition of an 80G hard disk. i would like to transfer this ubuntu installation on a spare 40G hard disk that i have. can anyone please give me an idea on how to accomplish that without reinstalling the entire os?
[09:59] <Diablo69> ohh ok
[09:59] <drakeoutlaw> Hi all, can someone tell why playing wma files slows the frame rate to a crawl sometimes. (I've done stuff suggested by the Getting Started Guide)
[09:59] <Stinkywrix> ow, 3.1? yikes.
[10:00] <drakeoutlaw> marcster: look up and learn to use parted. I think it can copy partitions
[10:00] <Diablo69> then I just click apply right?
[10:00] <marcster> alright. thanks
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> Stinkywrix, The computer with 3.1 is still running, btw.
[10:00] <Madpilot> Diablo69: yes
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, Windows.. 3.1?
[10:00] <Diablo69> I am trying to install a different wm
[10:01] <Diablo69> does it work automaticaly
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, Yep.  My dad's old laptop.
[10:01] <Diablo69> cuz it didn't change anything
[10:01] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, that's crazy. How long has it been running for?
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> As is the Commodore, Mac, and W98 machine.
[10:01] <mommer> Diablo69: you have to select it as session in the login window
[10:01] <Diablo69> uhh how do I find that?
[10:02] <mommer> the login window has a few buttons. Press on them in turn :-)
[10:02] <mommer> until you find it
[10:02] <Diablo69> I haven't seena login window
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> I started computers a long time ago, too. I'm only 17.. I've seen DOS, the old Mac OS.. of course, not as old as going to the floppies =)
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, Erm, not exactly sure, but it must be at least since 1994, since W95 wasn't out yet.
[10:02] <mommer> Diablo69: how do you login?
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, haha, nice. Still usable, I guess?
[10:02] <Diablo69> cmd prompt
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, Oh yeah.  My sister uses it for her schoolwork.
[10:03] <andromorph> Hi, can anyone suggest how to disable 'rivafb' at boot ?
[10:03] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, I can't believe somebody would use that old thing at all, wow.
[10:03] <mommer> Diablo69: ah i see. Then you'll have to edit the .xinitrc, or install kdm, I think.
[10:04] <drakeoutlaw> Can you imagine how blazingly FAST win3.1 would be on today's computer
[10:04] <SweetestSavage> drakeoutlaw, I've seen it, actually..
[10:04] <SweetestSavage> drakeoutlaw, it crashed in 30 minutes
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, I've spent many an hour playing Frogger on the Commodore, which is another decade older than that.  I must say, what passes for a word processor on that thing is a beast to use though.  You have to type in commands for all of your formatting.  (My mom did her thesis on the thing.)
[10:04] <drakeoutlaw> lol
[10:04] <Linuturk> it's official. My wireless works with ndiswrapper, but the cd doesn't come with the ndiswrapper-utils. WHY??
[10:05] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, ah, hah, nice. =)
[10:05] <twitch> sigh ive given up on synaptic because i have an external harddrive that im using a live cd with
[10:05] <mommer> tonyyarusso: wordstar?
[10:05] <twitch> so could i just get some one to send me and unzipped gftp front end for ubuntu
[10:05] <mommer> tonyyarusso: and have you ever heard of latex?:-)
[10:05] <twitch> over aim or somthing
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> mommer, I don't think that's it...  something script maybe?  It's been a while.
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> mommer, No, not that one.
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> I wonder what a functional Commodore 64 could fetch on eBay in a few years?
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> With program disks.
[10:07] <Linuturk> I'll give you my kidney's
[10:07] <Linuturk> both of them
[10:07] <twitch> can anyone send me an unzipped gftp app
[10:07] <Diablo69> so in .xinitrc I would type "exec /usr/bin/fluxbox"
[10:07] <twitch> with everything in it
[10:07] <Madpilot> twitch: why isn't Synaptic working?
[10:07] <twitch> live cd
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> Linuturk, Will paypal accept that?
[10:07] <jenda-zZz> What was that thing one had to do to be able to play m4a's in xmms again?
[10:07] <jenda-zZz> lol...
[10:07] <Linuturk> tonyyarusso, they are rolling out organ support in a few months
[10:07] <drakeoutlaw> Linuturk: If you would seriously like to get your hands on a comodore 64 I might have one for you
[10:07] <Madpilot> twitch: Synaptic should work on a LiveCD, it just won't save any data after you shut everything down...
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> Linuturk, Good to know.
[10:08] <twitch> unless you could show me how to make it write the repositories and packages to my HD
[10:08] <Linuturk> drakeoutlaw, got a price?
[10:08] <irc> im wrestling the tv card lion anyone configed one in ubuntu?
[10:08] <twitch> where would it save gftp
[10:09] <rudi_> jjjjjjjjjow
[10:09] <drakeoutlaw> Linuturk: let me locate the machine. It will take a couple of days
[10:09] <Madpilot> twitch: when you're running the LiveCD, everything is just in RAM, that's why it's slow - unless you've mounted a harddrive
[10:09] <twitch> i have an external usb hard drive
[10:09] <Linuturk> drakeoutlaw, pm?
[10:10] <twitch> im using that as a big memory card i guess...
[10:10] <Diablo69> oy vey, I didn't know if I took away gnome, the package manager would be gone
[10:10] <Diablo69> thats fuckedu p
[10:10] <irc> any tv video config hints available
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[10:10] <Madpilot> twitch: OK - but unless you've told Ubuntu to mount it, I don't think it's being used right now...
[10:10] <twitch> it auto mounts
[10:10] <Linuturk> drakeoutlaw, i got an email address for you on pm
[10:10] <irc> i might go play panzer more unless someone has done it
[10:10] <irc> i have gotten no where with it
[10:11] <B_166-ER-X> i keep putting some gdesklets network apps on my desktop, but ...they keep disapearing by there own after a few minutes...the other Gdesklets apps have no problem..
[10:11] <GTroy> hey guys, can anyone tell me how to use switches in terminal?
[10:11] <Diablo69> so will I be able to have the package manger if I take off the current gnome wm
[10:11] <Diablo69> ?
[10:14] <chmod775> does anyone know how to install libcomposite
[10:14] <chmod775> for gdesklets
[10:14] <chmod775> I guess it's not there in the reposittory
[10:15] <ajmitch> chmod775: libxcomposite1
[10:16] <chmod775> thanks dude
[10:16] <ajmitch> and the corresponding libxcomposite-dev
[10:16] <twitch> can anyone send me a gftp folder that is unzipped?
[10:16] <ajmitch> (if you're needing to build something with it)
[10:16] <JohnFlux> Seveas: ping
[10:16] <chmod775> ajmitch, are u sure
[10:17] <JohnFlux> hey all
[10:17] <chmod775> I just did a apt-get install libxcomposite
[10:17] <chmod775> nope it's not there
[10:17] <ajmitch> chmod775: I said libxcomposite1
[10:17] <JohnFlux> I'm trying to install libdvdcss and w32codecs etc.  I added seveas's repos to be sources, but it says I missing his pgp key
[10:18] <chmod775> nope ajmitch
[10:18] <chmod775> I did libxcomposite1
[10:18] <chmod775> nope
[10:18] <linuxboy> chmod775: nice nick
[10:18] <chmod775> thanks dude
[10:19] <JohnFlux> does anyone know another good place to get libdvdcss etc please?
[10:19] <ajmitch> chmod775: and I can see that it's been in since hoary
[10:19] <chmod775> ok
[10:19] <chmod775> ajmitch, can u suggest something
[10:19] <ompaul> JohnFlux, just point your web browser at Seveas's site and pull
[10:19] <ajmitch> chmod775: pastebin, show me what you're typing & the result, please
[10:19] <chmod775> sure
[10:19] <chmod775> hang on
[10:20] <JohnFlux> ompaul: download the packages individually manually?
[10:20] <ompaul> JohnFlux, why not
[10:20] <chmod775> !pastebin
[10:20] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> Does someone know how to make a metapackage?
[10:20] <drakeoutlaw> Linuturk: mail to you is bouncing back
[10:20] <Diablo69> hey all...I am trying to install gyache enhanced, what package would I need?
[10:20] <ompaul> JohnFlux, it is the same end result when they are down dpkg -i foo.deb
[10:21] <chmod775> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6735
[10:21] <drakeoutlaw> Linuturk: sorry spelling error
[10:21] <ompaul> JohnFlux, sorry >>sudo dpkg -i foo.deb<< - me not coffeed yet
[10:21] <chmod775> here u go ajmitch
[10:21] <JohnFlux> ompaul: thanks
[10:21] <ompaul> JohnFlux, enjoy
[10:22] <chmod775> u there ajmitch
[10:22] <chmod775> ?
[10:22] <ajmitch> chmod775: yes, have some patience
[10:22] <chmod775> sorry ajmitch
[10:23] <ajmitch> chmod775: you are using breezy?
[10:23] <chmod775> yes
[10:23] <chmod775> breezy
[10:23] <ajmitch> strange, I see it on the mirrors, and in the package lists
[10:23] <chmod775> shall i paste my sources.list on pastebin
[10:23] <ajmitch> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/libxcomposite1
[10:23] <ajmitch> sure
[10:24] <chmod775> let me check out the link u sent me first
[10:24] <ompaul> chmod775, you _must_ have something wrong with your repo sources - that lib is in main
[10:25] <chmod775> ok
[10:25] <chmod775> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6736
[10:25] <chmod775> here is my sources.list file
[10:25] <ompaul> chmod775, any result from this >>> apt-cache policy libxcomposite1 <<<
[10:25] <Linuturk> drakeoutlaw, you get it?
[10:25] <chmod775> no ompaul nothing at all
[10:25] <ajmitch> chmod775: your sources.list is wrong
[10:25] <chmod775> oh
[10:26] <chmod775> what should I change to make it correct
[10:26] <ajmitch> chmod775: uncomment line 4, 'deb http://us..'
[10:26] <chmod775> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[10:26] <ompaul> chmod775, and while your at it us a  # to comment out the CDrom line
[10:26] <ajmitch> chmod775: not that line
[10:26] <drakeoutlaw> Linuturk: pls chk your email
[10:27] <ajmitch> the line above, with deb, not deb-src
[10:27] <ajmitch> remove the #
[10:27] <Linuturk> drakeoutlaw, got it. Just keep me informed
[10:27] <chmod775> ajmitch, I am confused ompaul is telling something else
[10:27] <drakeoutlaw> Linuturk: lets hope I find it.
[10:28] <chmod775> what should I do one at a time plz
[10:28] <AussieExile> is the ATI Radeon Xpress 200M supported by ubuntu?????
[10:28] <ajmitch> chmod775: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6737
[10:29] <chmod775> what did u do ?
[10:29] <ajmitch> chmod775: removed the #, as I said, on line 4
[10:29] <Mr_Molez> can ne 1  help. i have installed the kernel-headers package for my kernel, but when complinging the ati drivers i get error  entering directory /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 Makefile: no such file or directory
[10:29] <Diablo69> hey I just complied something from source
[10:29] <Diablo69> how do I add it to my menu list
[10:29] <Diablo69> or how do I open it
[10:29] <lachyg> hi, how can I configure PAM to do authentication via NIS?
[10:29] <ompaul> chmod775, hash out the CDROM line while your at it - unless you leave the CDrom in the machine the whole time
[10:30] <chmod775> ok done
[10:30] <lachyg> I can get it working under OpenBSD, but it doesn't work in ubuntu
[10:30] <lachyg> Diablo69, use the menu editor
[10:30] <ajmitch> chmod775: sudo apt-get update
[10:30] <Diablo69> where would it be located at?
[10:31] <ajmitch> chmod775: and then try & get the library again
[10:31] <chmod775> yup doing it ajmitch I actually want to enable transparency with gdesklets
[10:31] <chmod775> and after that I will have to install xcompmgr right ajmitch
[10:31] <chmod775> ?
[10:32] <ajmitch> chmod775: possibly, I don't know :)
[10:32] <chmod775> ok
[10:32] <chmod775> ompaul, do u know this ?
[10:33] <stevea> hey, can someone help me install this wireless usb lancard please? someone tried before, but unfortunately it didn't work.... i don't think my computer has recognised the hardware
[10:33] <ompaul> chmod775, it should work - but hey try it
[10:33] <lachyg> Diablo69, sudo apt-get install smeg && smeg
[10:33] <chmod775> ok ompaul u guys are really helpful
[10:33] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: pls describe the card
[10:33] <stevea> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59001&package_id=158645&release_id=343983
[10:33] <stevea> thats the one
[10:33] <Diablo69> ok but I installed it from source
[10:33] <chmod775> it's been months since I have been from fedora core 4 to ubuntu it sure rocks
[10:33] <Diablo69> where would the file be
[10:33] <Diablo69> it complied fine, becuz I was on it for a sec
[10:34] <lachyg> so you've got smeg running?
[10:34] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: well it's actually a NE-WUSB wireless lan card but when i searched that on google for linux drivers, it sent me that way
[10:34] <ajmitch> Diablo69: usually /usr/local/bin by default, or wherever you configured it to install to
[10:34] <lachyg> Diablo69, autotools defaults to --prefix=/usr/local
[10:34] <Diablo69> I just saw a gui
[10:34] <Diablo69> I have no kewl
[10:34] <lachyg> so /usr/local/bin/
[10:35] <ajmitch> Diablo69: be warned that installing from source can introduce issues later on :)
[10:35] <lachyg> umm what? you've done ./configure, make, make install right?
[10:35] <lachyg> ajmitch, does it?
[10:35] <Diablo69> nuthing is in /usr/local/bin
[10:35] <Diablo69> I was trying to install gyache with webcam support btw
[10:36] <lachyg> ok, so what did you do to get it installed?
[10:36] <ajmitch> lachyg: sure, if you installed things in gentoo from source outside of the portage system it could also cause issues
[10:36] <Diablo69> I clicked it
[10:36] <Diablo69> and when it asked what it shoudl do
[10:36] <lachyg> ajmitch, not really, since portage installs everything in /usr rather than /usr/local
[10:36] <Diablo69> I said open with and there was a default application there
[10:36] <ajmitch> lachyg: usually just because you can have a package install to /usr, something from source from /usr/local, and you forget later on, wondering what goes wrong
[10:37] <lachyg> what? i thought you compiled from source
[10:37] <lachyg> true
[10:37] <Diablo69> it was a tar.gz file
[10:37] <ajmitch> lachyg: I said for something installed apart from portage
[10:37] <lachyg> but we have package.provided to avoid that
[10:37] <ajmitch> yes
[10:37] <ompaul> ajmitch, how to kill a box factoid
[10:38] <lachyg> Diablo69, so you did what exactly? you've untarred it, then what?
[10:38] <Diablo69> let me do it again
[10:38] <Diablo69> and I will tell you step by step
[10:38] <ajmitch> which is why the packagers do a lot of work to get as much useful stuff into the repositories :)
[10:38] <ajmitch> ompaul: kill?
[10:38] <lachyg> there's always problems getting some stuff in which no-one wants to maintain
[10:38] <Diablo69> I went to www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat.index.php
[10:39] <Diablo69> clicked on download
[10:39] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: do you think you can help?
[10:39] <ompaul> ajmitch, okay s/kill/broke so that issues arrise and brains get under stress
[10:39] <ajmitch> ompaul: I don't really know what you mean, and I don't deal with ubotu enough :)
[10:40] <Diablo69> then I clicked on "gyach-enchanced-pyvoicechat-1.0.7-1_i586.tar.bz2
[10:40] <Diablo69> chose a mirror
[10:40] <ompaul> ajmitch, I'll do it after a coffee
[10:40] <lachyg> Diablo69, skip to the part after you downloaded it
[10:40] <lachyg> does anyone know how to configure NIS?
[10:40] <Diablo69> I clicked open with archive manager (default)
[10:41] <Diablo69> then I clicked on makefile I think
[10:41] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: I'm looking up netami. in the meantime can you see it with iwconfig?
[10:41] <lachyg> oh
[10:41] <lachyg> so you didn't actually compile it then
[10:41] <Diablo69> what did I do?
[10:41] <lachyg> i'll walk you through  it
[10:41] <lachyg> nothing at all
[10:41] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: nope
[10:41] <Diablo69> ok :)
[10:41] <lachyg> you can't execute a makefile
[10:41] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: if it helps... lsusb doesn't show anything either except for my mouse
[10:42] <lachyg> ok, download the file to somewhere, (save, not open) and then open up a terminal
[10:42] <Mr_Molez> Diablo69: I wouldn't bother trying to compile that, just get the binary. The developer is idle and a waste of space. If you really want to compile it i suggest getting the patches from the gentoo bugzilla
[10:44] <Madpilot> has anyone ever installed the Linux version of Filezilla? It's beta, and I was wondering how usable/stable it is...
[10:46] <Diablo69> what now lachyg?
[10:47] <Morrowyn> where can i dump ubuntu wallpapers?
[10:48] <Mr_Molez> can someone please tell me what is wrong with the kernel-headers.. most of the files in there are symlinks to its own file but they are broken links.........
[10:51] <Mr_Molez> oh nevermind i figures it out
[10:52] <Mr_Molez> *figured
[10:52] <Diablo69> lachyg: You Here?
[10:53] <lachyg> Diablo69, sorry, got to go, need to go single user
[10:54] <SweetestSavage> Could someone explain to me the performance difference between 64-bit and 32-bit?
[10:54] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: pls see this article. then lets proceed step by step: http://tips.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/20/2251203&tid=100&tid=18&tid=121
[10:54] <stevea> ok
[10:56] <annibis> Does anyone here use skype?
[10:56] <annibis> I cannot get mine to work
[10:58] <annibis> can anyone help me get skype to work, I installed it but when I click the icon it never launches
[10:58] <_Gray_> annbis: did u try launching in terminal and see what happens?
[10:59] <annibis> how do I do that
[10:59] <_Gray_> open a reminal and type 'skype' i guess
[10:59] <_Gray_> terminal*
[10:59] <Morrowyn> SweetestSavage,  with 32bit systems you are capped at 2^32 possibilities (and thus memory adress space) with 64bit you can have 2^64, notice the increase
[11:00] <SweetestSavage> Morrowyn, right, but in todays environment.. is it really going to be worth the wait?
[11:01] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: it makes a reference to /etc/wlan but i don't have that folder?
[11:01] <Morrowyn> SweetestSavage, depends, but 64bit cpus can process more data at the same time
[11:02] <Chousuke> Hmm.
[11:02] <Morrowyn> and if applications are specially made 64bit
[11:02] <SweetestSavage> Morrowyn, true
[11:02] <Morrowyn> you will gain some performance
[11:02] <Chousuke> SweetestSavage: as far as I know 32bit systems can't handle more than 1 GB of RAM very well, and are capped at 4GB.
[11:02] <Morrowyn> but for now, 90% of the apps are 32bit
[11:03] <Chousuke> 64 bits allows you to address a lot wider memory space, which helps if you have a lot of RAM.
[11:03] <SweetestSavage> Hmm.. I suppose I'll stick with 64-bit then =)
[11:03] <Diablo69> where can I find themes for mplayer?
[11:03] <Diablo69> I searched the packages and didn't see them
[11:03] <SweetestSavage> Chousuke, yeah.. I was thinking of adding more ram into this computer anyways. 1gb just doesn't seem to cut it like it used to
[11:03] <Morrowyn> SweetestSavage, yeah, the apps will come around
[11:04] <Morrowyn> depends what you wanna do on yor system
[11:04] <Morrowyn> 1gb for just office usage
[11:04] <SweetestSavage> Morrowyn, I'm running a server for an online game at the moment
[11:04] <Morrowyn> should be enough
[11:04] <sampan> diablo69  you can download skins for mplayer on the mplayer website (assuming that's what you're looking for)
[11:04] <Chousuke> Morrowyn: on Linux though 90% of the most common apps already work natively 64 bit :)
[11:04] <Morrowyn> SweetestSavage, i can imagine dumping in more ram will make your life easier
[11:05] <Diablo69> same with xmms?
[11:05] <SweetestSavage> Morrowyn, yep, plus RAM will be getting cheaper and cheaper.. so it's not much of a cost either.
[11:05] <mal1> why would someone choose RHEL over Ubuntu?
[11:05] <sampan> diablo69  yeah i think so -- xmms also can use winamp3 skins iirc
[11:05] <Chousuke> mal1: perhaps for the support.
[11:05] <Morrowyn> Chousuke, nice, but 90% isnt really good enough for me, i need 64bit apps all the way, at least for all the programs im using
[11:05] <SweetestSavage> Diablo69, if you're looking for an alternative I recommend amaroK.
[11:05] <mal1> my guess too
[11:06] <Morrowyn> but im patient :)
[11:06] <SweetestSavage> I just hope gaming goes toward the 64-bit side of things =)
[11:06] <Chousuke> Morrowyn: Well, if you don't need w32codecs or proprietary stuff you can pretty much have 100%
[11:07] <Morrowyn> true
[11:07] <Morrowyn> thing is i need maya, photoshop, flash etc....
[11:07] <_Gray_> use windows then
[11:07] <Morrowyn> no
[11:07] <mal1> I wanted to install ubuntu on the various machines in the lab, but the admin of the department net says that he would prefer centos
[11:07] <SweetestSavage> GIMP is 64-bit compatible.. Flash.. not yet.. maya? Not sure what that is
[11:07] <Morrowyn> maya runs extremely nice on 32bit ubuntu
[11:07] <Morrowyn> as well as photoshop through crossover office
[11:07] <Morrowyn> and 32bit flash is nice too
[11:08] <drakeoutlaw> stevea; I assume its 802.11b or 802.11g right?
[11:08] <Morrowyn> so no windows for me
[11:08] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: yeah
[11:08] <stevea> 802.11b i'm pretty sure
[11:08] <mal1> i hear that RHEL tends to be more stable since it has longer support cycles and shorter development cycles
[11:08] <mal1> but for a computer graphics lab, ubuntu seems like the right choice
[11:09] <LeonWP> moin
[11:09] <LeonWP> errr, hi :-)
[11:09] <mal1> might have been coding cycles
[11:10] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: six lights on top white colored box?
[11:10] <mal1> dunno, but if you spend less time adding features and more time supporting those existing features, I can see how it would result in stabler software
[11:10] <Diablo69> I got the skin
[11:10] <Diablo69> how do I install it?
[11:10] <AtreidesNZ> Hello,
[11:10] <AtreidesNZ> I haven't been using Ubuntu long and I have a question. Firefox 1.5 has been out for a while and has a Linux version, and I want to update my computer's version from 1.0.7 to 1.5.
[11:10] <AtreidesNZ> I tried downloading the .tar.gz from the Firefox website but got confused by where exactly I should extract it. Synaptic seemed to offer an easier approach to updating stuff, but it says that the latest version available is only 1.0.7. Why? What should I do?
[11:10] <mal1> heh, wait
[11:10] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: sorry?
[11:10] <Chousuke> mal1: true that, but if you do the "support" on a released version it kind of ruins it all.
[11:10] <Kindred> !ff1.5
[11:10] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:11] <Kindred> AtreidesNZ, I would take a look at that
[11:11] <SweetestSavage> Question: Is there a program for Linux that operates like Fraps does? (http://www.fraps.com/), basically making videos of a certain program running on your desktop? I've tried Istanbul and it's not what I was looking for.. atleast, it didn't work for games.
[11:11] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: is it a white colored box with 6 lights on top? do any of the lights come on when plugged into usb port?
[11:11] <Chousuke> if on the other hand your development consists of adding some features and fixing bugs before release, then it's probably going to be stable
[11:11] <AtreidesNZ> Ok, I'll have a look. Thanks..
[11:12] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: If you mean the wireless usb lan card, yeah a light does come on
[11:12] <Morrowyn> SweetestSavage, maya is a 3d animation application, which was used in all pixar movies, lotr movies etc. gimp, well it a nice app for small stuff, but its so gimped in comparison with photoshop
[11:12] <mal1> Morrowyn: ? You mean the UI?
[11:12] <stevea> http://www.dawoonet.co.kr/Images/FTPImage/00/00/12/99/NE-WUSB_s.jpg <--- thats basically it
[11:13] <Morrowyn> yeah, like resizing your burshes on the fly
[11:13] <antonio_> hi guys anyone can help me with ubuntu+java?
[11:13] <mal1> gimp can do everything and more
[11:13] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: any sign of activity in /var/log/syslog? ( you can do tail /var/log/syslog)
[11:13] <mal1> it'll just take longer =)
[11:13] <Morrowyn> i use [ and ]  in photoshop to resize the bursh size i havent seen such an option in gimp yet
[11:13] <Morrowyn> and i use that a lot
[11:14] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: yep
[11:14] <Mr_Molez> where can i get more updated kernels for ubuntu (.deb) ?
[11:14] <ajmitch>      ~.
[11:14] <stevea> "usb2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address5"
[11:14] <mal1> I wouldn't call gimp "production quality," but it is good for most general uses
[11:15] <antonio_> I need help, plz: how can i get libgcj.so.6.0.0 for ubuntu?
[11:15] <Kindred> Morrowyn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105466
[11:15] <Kindred> seems easy enough.
[11:15] <Morrowyn> i see
[11:15] <mal1> I would say its more important knowing how to use the existing tools well, rather than having the tool do everything for you
[11:15] <mal1> what doesn't photoshop do?
[11:16] <Kindred> Morrowyn, agreed htough it's no photoshop.
[11:16] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: so now we have to correctly identify the chipset and then go find a driver. do you have windows installed and does it work in windows?
[11:18] <StokesTheorem> gtg
[11:18] <StokesTheorem> thanks for your help everyone
[11:18] <mal1> one day math will become trendy
[11:18] <mal1> everyone will wear tshirts with their favorite mathematical theorem on it
[11:18] <mal1> it'll be great
[11:19] <Morrowyn> mal1 im not going to discuss gimp vs photoshop with you, i prefer using photoshop , their ui is a lot better than gimps (imo) . Just the fact that i need to create a "dynamic" brush and attach kotkeys to it. Sorry is not my thing.
[11:20] <Diablo69> oy who's idea was it for apps in ubuntu to freeze?
[11:20] <mal1> Morrowyn: everyone knows photoshop is better, no arguing that
[11:20] <Morrowyn> however gimp has a lot of potential
[11:21] <Morrowyn> its just that they need a good ui, so ppl can get work done
[11:21] <Morrowyn> and not do lots of stuff manually
[11:21] <mal1> Morrowyn: well its hard to expect something thats free to reach the level of quality of a professional grade application (although it has happened)
[11:21] <Morrowyn> before they can actually work on their images
[11:21] <mal1> Morrowyn: especially when we talk about expert systems
[11:22] <Morrowyn> true, although, you can learn a lot from the expert system
[11:22] <SweetestSavage> What is the current stability of Dapper Drake? I'm thinking of trying it out..
[11:22] <Morrowyn> and maybe incorporate it in your own, especially the handy stuff
[11:22] <Morrowyn> like dynamic burshes
[11:22] <Morrowyn> its just to make life easier
[11:23] <Morrowyn> in gimp
[11:23] <Mr_Molez> where can i get more updated kernels for ubuntu (.deb) ?
[11:23] <mal1> Morrowyn: Yea, it could definitely be improved. I don't exactly know how many people code for GIMP or how easy or hard it is to add new features to it
[11:23] <mal1> I imagine its quite difficult
[11:24] <Morrowyn> here in holland there is this saying (translated directly) better well stolen, than poorly designed
[11:24] <Morrowyn> i totally agree
[11:24] <Morrowyn> but designing a good user interface is an abstract thing
[11:24] <Morrowyn> you dont have to code 1 line for that
[11:25] <mal1> Morrowyn: I don't know if GIMP is built upon solid OOP principles
[11:25] <Morrowyn> just sit and think, if i wanna do "this" how can i do that efficiently and easy
[11:26] <mal1> Morrowyn: heh, I do that all the time, but its not so easy when you start coding
[11:26] <Morrowyn> should i place this "button" on the left corner or the top right corner, should i make a "wizard" so the end user can resize its image or just a menu option
[11:26] <stevea> sorry drakeoutlaw
[11:26] <stevea> i got disconnected
[11:26] <SweetestSavage> What is the current stability of Dapper Drake? I'm thinking of trying it out.. that is, using it instead of Breezy (as my main desktop).
[11:27] <mal1> Morrowyn: You should try using GTK, its not exactly easy =)
[11:27] <stevea> what was the last message you typed drakeoutlaw?
[11:27] <mal1> Morrowyn: qt is a lot easier if you ask me
[11:27] <slonocode> which file controls the services that start on boot?
[11:27] <drakeoutlaw> stevea: so now we have to correctly identify the chipset and then go find a driver. do you have windows installed and does it work in windows?
[11:27] <Morrowyn> ok
[11:27] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: yes i do
[11:27] <cyphase> whenever it gets to dark, it turns off
[11:27] <kestas> is there any way to get xchat going in a notification bar like gaim?
[11:28] <Morrowyn> the only gui toolkits i have used is awt/swing and .net so far
[11:28] <cyphase> kestas, yes
[11:28] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: actually sorry, did you type anything before that? the last message i typed was the information about regarding the usb thing..
[11:28] <cyphase> i have it in the bar
[11:28] <Morrowyn> breakfast :D
[11:29] <kestas> cyphase, okay... :) can you guess what my next question will be?
[11:29] <mal1> I am an open source nut. I like things free and community driven. Even if it sucks, its still spiritually fulfilling
[11:29] <concept10> !mysql
[11:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:29] <cyphase> kestas, i think so
[11:29] <concept10> !info mysql
[11:29] <drakeoutlaw> stevea; I was hoping that syslog would give more info on what the usb device was
[11:29] <kestas> how do I get it running in the notification bar like gaim?
[11:30] <cyphase> kestas, i know :)
[11:30] <cyphase> just install xchat-systray
[11:30] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: oh thats right
[11:31] <stevea> drakeoutlaw: so yeah.. i have windows and the wireless card works on it.. do you want me to look for somthing?
[11:32] <Qzxc> can i run ubunto with 64 mb of ram ?
[11:32] <TengkSA> is it possible, through linux, to edit files on your windows mounted drives
[11:33] <mal1> we need to start comparing gimp to mspaint
[11:33] <AtreidesNZ> Installing Firefox 1.5. Bah. Complicated. I did what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion said but I think I've broken something. At least 1.0.7 does still work. I'm going to bed. Otherwise my head'll fall off.
[11:33] <drakeoutlaw> look in controlpanel > system to see what the driver of the card is
yes but it is dangerous
[11:33] <SweetestSavage> AtreidesNZ, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:33] <cyphase> TengkSA, yes, unless it's using NTFS
[11:33] <TengkSA> Qzxc, why is it dangerous?
[11:33] <Madpilot> mal1: that's hardly fair - GIMP is far closer to PS than MSPaint, even if it isn't all the way there... :P
[11:33] <Kindred> AtreidesNZ, yeah it's a bit of a process..
[11:33] <cyphase> TengkSA, Qzxc means dangerous on NTFS
[11:34] <AtreidesNZ> SweetestSavage, latest one. Breezy Badger. 5.10
[11:34] <Qzxc> if you work with ntfs ...
[11:34] <TengkSA> but WHY
[11:34] <cyphase> on others it's fine
[11:34] <SweetestSavage> AtreidesNZ, what Kernel?
[11:34] <cyphase> TengkSA, because linux doesn't have good support for writing to NTFS
[11:34] <AtreidesNZ> I dunno. I just updated everything automagically cos it told me to.
[11:34] <Qzxc> ntfs stores the file on sepreate places on the same medium
[11:34] <SweetestSavage> What's the command that displays your kernel? Anyone know? It's uname something
[11:34] <Kindred> uname -r
[11:34] <Qzxc> uname -r
[11:35] <Madpilot> SweetestSavage: uname -a
[11:35] <SweetestSavage> -r or -a? o.o
[11:35] <cyphase> -r
[11:35] <SweetestSavage> Alright
[11:35] <Madpilot> SweetestSavage: -r for just the kernel, -a for everthing
[11:35] <Qzxc> -r kernel version -a all info
[11:35] <SweetestSavage> AtreidesNZ, type uname -r and tell me what it says
[11:35] <TengkSA> and is there no way to access files saved in your linux partition through windows
[11:35] <mal1> madpilot: heh, I mean that both are free and packed with the OS, therefore its unfair to compare gimp to photoshop.
[11:35] <AtreidesNZ> SweetestSavage, 2.6.12-9-386
[11:36] <cyphase> TengkSA, no
[11:36] <Kindred> TengkSA, sure there is
[11:36] <SweetestSavage> AtreidesNZ, hmm, well it should work.. make sure you followed all the instructions properly.
[11:36] <cyphase> ..
[11:36] <Madpilot> mal1: "free" from MS != free software free...
[11:36] <Qzxc> i need to run on amd 500 with 64 mb ram any suggestions ?
[11:36] <cyphase> TengkSA, what's your setup?
[11:36] <Madpilot> Qzxc: buy a lot more ram?
[11:36] <mal1> Madpilot: I was going to use quotes but that was like 2 extra characters
[11:36] <wizardjames> How do i read ext3 format on windows?
[11:36] <blue-frog> qx
[11:36] <TengkSA> cyphase, windows on one partition and linux on another
[11:37] <blue-frog> Qzxc, server install
[11:37] <cyphase> TengkSA, what are the filesystems?
[11:37] <stevea> drakeoutlaw
[11:37] <TengkSA> ntfs
 10x ..
[11:37] <Kindred> wizardjames, ext2fs, mount everything,.. there's a few bits of software around for that
[11:37] <TengkSA> cyphase, ntfs
[11:37] <mal1> oh btw, you can actually create new brushes that are of variable width =)
xfce should run ?
[11:38] <blue-frog> Qzxc, more than slowly
[11:38] <AtreidesNZ> SweetestSavage, Yeah, it should, but it don't, and now I'm going to bed. I'm off on two weeks holiday in the South Island leaving tomorrow morning and it's now almost midnight. Linux will have to wait. Why can't I have my nice .exe installers anymore? Boohoo. Lucky I still have my Windows PC sitting on top of my Ubuntu one.
[11:38] <cyphase> TengkSA, linux can read ntfs fine, but not write, whereas windows can't do anything with linux formats
[11:38] <Qzxc> how to acces reisfs ?
[11:38] <cyphase> TengkSA, consider making a third partition formatted as FAT32..
[11:38] <Qzxc> via xp
[11:38] <mal1> I don't think many people are actually aware of how capable gimp really is =)
[11:38] <blue-frog> Qzxc, server install eats 40 RAm I think, don't know what xubuntu-desktop will take
[11:39] <cyphase> TengkSA, and use it for things you need to have on both
[11:39] <TengkSA> cyphase, or format my 2nd hard drive .. my multimedia hard drive to be fat32
 ooh .. bummer ..
[11:39] <cyphase> TengkSA, that too
[11:39] <TengkSA> so does that mean that i could download to that hard drive off both username
[11:39] <cyphase> TengkSA, yes
[11:39] <TengkSA> i mean both OSs cyphase
[11:39] <cyphase> TengkSA, and either way, you can read the windows stuff with linux
[11:40] <cyphase> TengkSA, so if you need to just move stuff from windows to linux, it'd be fine
[11:40] <Qzxc> cu channel have to go ..
[11:41] <TengkSA> cyphase, no i wanna download stuff using linux too like music/movies but it obv cant save so that i can access it thru win
[11:41] <cyphase> TengkSA, not in ntfs anyway
[11:41] <Kindred> TengkSA, if you want to read/write to a linux partition in windows check out http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:41] <mal1> install a ext3 reader for windows
[11:41] <Madpilot> TengkSA: both Windows & Linux can read FAT32
[11:41] <mal1> ^ like that
[11:42] <Madpilot> TengkSA: read & write, I meant to say...
[11:42] <mal1> ok, I have a question. What do you guys think Linux simply can't do that Windows can?
[11:42] <mal1> apart from playing WMV9
[11:42] <Madpilot> mal1: get viruses :P
[11:43] <ompaul> ajmitch, may I msg u ?
[11:43] <Kindred> shrink my dual layer dvds to single layer and burn one in about 15 minutes?
[11:43] <mal1> heh, a windows lab machine in our lab caught a virus and nearly crippled the department
[11:43] <BigKahuna> is john the ripper in the ubuntu repos?
[11:43] <mal1> we are no longer allowed to connect our windows machines to the network
[11:44] <cyphase> mal1, same thing happened at the area community college
[11:44] <cyphase> during the blaster outbreak, and more recently
[11:44] <cyphase> the entire network was taken down
[11:45] <mal1> yea, we call that Fridays at my University =)
[11:45] <mal1> heh
[11:45] <cyphase> :)
[11:45] <Kindred>  hehe
[11:45] <kemik> mal1:  seems reasonable considering the security issues in windows ;)
[11:45] <cyphase> i was able to convince them to at least install firefox
[11:45] <mal1> luckily nearly every lab uses linux
[11:46] <mal1> too bad they are all using centos
[11:46] <mal1> 90% of the graduate students can't administer the systems, which is kinda sad
[11:46] <welp> how do i install fluxbox? apt-get install fluxbox?
[11:47] <JuhazOne> y0
[11:47] <mal1> ah well, you don't learn linux until you have to work with a really basic linux distro
[11:47] <JuhazOne> can't create an udf filesystem on a dvd+rw. help appreciated. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6738
[11:47] <stevea> hi, can anyone help me install this wireless usb lan card driver? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59001&package_id=158645&release_id=343983
[11:47] <welp> :P
[11:47] <cyphase> stevea, which card?
[11:48] <mal1> same here
[11:48] <mal1> Gentoo is what I learned like 80% of what I know about it
[11:48] <soai> ..
[11:48] <mal1> Learned practically nothing with Mandrake
[11:48] <ajmitch> ompaul: not now, sorry
[11:48] <JuhazOne> i used gentoo myself, too
[11:48] <welp> by basic, do you mean easy to use, or loads of text-file configuration?
[11:48] <ompaul> np
[11:48] <mal1> Gentoo is great, but somewhat impractical
[11:49] <JuhazOne> i liked it... except for the fact that when i got my new computer it never seemed to work
[11:49] <cyphase> since we're talking about distros..
[11:49] <cyphase> i love ubuntu :P
[11:49] <cyphase> been using it since day one (of the distro)
[11:49] <stevea> cyphase: its a NE-WUSB
[11:49] <stevea> but when i searched for it, it led me to that driver
[11:49] <ROBOd> hey guys
[11:49] <JuhazOne> well, seems like i'm not getting much help for the udf problem i have...
[11:50] <ROBOd> i got my ubuntu 5.10 linux ... and it's downloading like crazy
[11:50] <welp> i love gentoo, but i'm having endless problems with it on my laptop, and i'm a fan of ubuntu too, although i have it on no computers
[11:50] <welp> ATM
[11:50] <JuhazOne> anyone have an idea why the hell some of my network related apps freeze?
[11:50] <ROBOd> already 30-40 mb downloaded
[11:50] <JuhazOne> the processes actually become immortal.
[11:50] <ROBOd> a lot of traffic ...
[11:50] <JuhazOne> i've written a bit about it there: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=613730
[11:50] <mal1> JuhazOne: I sometimes have that problem with the network tool that Ubuntu uses to configure the network
[11:50] <welp> so do i just do: apt-get install fluxbox? to get fluxbox
[11:50] <ROBOd> i tried netstat -tup ... and the the port being used for traffic is ... not showing any PID
[11:51] <JuhazOne> mal1: well i have it with wget :<
[11:51] <JuhazOne> and that's bad
[11:51] <ROBOd> why?
[11:51] <mal1> JuhazOne: hmmm, sounds like a driver issue
[11:51] <ROBOd> how to determine what app does the downloading?
[11:51] <JuhazOne> interesting
[11:52] <evert> hello all
[11:52] <JuhazOne> the nic is some basic intel. bought in 2000 i believe. :)
[11:52] <JuhazOne> intel pro 10/100+ or something
[11:52] <pienilammas> Hi everybody! I was trying to install ubuntu on my laptop but without any success. I would like to do it from my USB device. And I understand absolutely nothing about PCs. Anyone willing to help me please?
[11:52] <JuhazOne> pienilammas: hey lil' sheep
[11:52] <ROBOd> anybody knows? ...
[11:53] <pienilammas> juhazOne :)  moi!
[11:53] <JuhazOne> :)
[11:53] <fek> moin
[11:53] <kemik> Juhaz:  NIC's rarely "die"
[11:53] <evert> how can i copy a file into ect/mozilla-firefox/profile/chrome ? i can't paste there a thing :(  i have to paste there a new userconfig.css file
[11:53] <kemik> *JuhazOne
[11:53] <JuhazOne> kemik: they just start acting weird?
[11:53] <kemik> evert:  sudo
[11:54] <Burgundavia> I am looking for the author of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OtherWaysToInstall
[11:54] <kemik> JuhazOne:  rarely... i'd say it's the NIC driver more likely
[11:54] <JuhazOne> hmmh.
[11:54] <evert> how can you sudo a thing when you are just like in windows doing it by using the "explorer ?"
[11:54] <kemik> JuhazOne:  if i were you i'd try another NIC (another brand aswell)
[11:54] <generalleoff> got a rather small yet annoying issue I can't fix. I have a uTorrent folder on one of my windows drives with the proper u "micro" charector.
[11:54] <generalleoff> Ubuntu can not see this folder correct
[11:54] <generalleoff> any way to make it see it?
[11:55] <JuhazOne> maybe i'll have to look for one then
[11:55] <kemik> evert:  then you'd have to start nautilus with gksudo i guess
[11:55] <JuhazOne> or try the integrated one perhaps
[11:55] <JuhazOne> it just didn't work in windows :>
[11:55] <kemik> JuhazOne:  the integrated should be fine
[11:55] <evert> kemik ; i'm completely new to ubuntu and to linux ... what you said is like chinese for me :(
[11:55] <JuhazOne> hey, actually i've got another NIC that's exactly like the one i've got in this computer
[11:55] <concept10> firefox 1.5 should still be in beta.  It has too many mem leaks!
[11:55] <kemik> evert:  then learn chinese ;)
[11:55] <Burgundavia> PaulOMalley?
[11:56] <kemik> evert:  you have different users which own files
[11:56] <evert> there is just one user ...
[11:56] <kemik> evert:  systemfiles are usually owned by the "root" user (the administrator if you like)
[11:56] <kemik> evert:  and then there is your user
[11:56] <evert> yeah
[11:56] <evert> i get that
[11:56] <kemik> evert:  in order to have "root" access, in ubuntu you use "sudo"
[11:57] <JuhazOne> kemik: do i need to configure the integrated adapter or _should_ it start working right away after i've enabled it in the bios?
[11:57] <evert> but i can use sudo , but that's in that console thing ?
[11:57] <kemik> evert:  yea
[11:57] <evert> how can i copy things when i'm in the console ?
[11:57] <kemik> evert:  but you can start "nautilus" (the 'explorer' app)
[11:57] <zhangtao> ?
[11:57] <Madpilot> !cli
[11:57] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[11:57] <Madpilot> evert: ^^^
[11:57] <evert> so in console i have to typ : sudo nautilus ?
[11:57] <kemik> evert:   "gksudo nautilius"  (not that i recommend todo that unless you have to)
[11:58] <evert> ok
[11:58] <kemik> evert:  sudo works aswell, but gksudo is recommended for guiapps
[11:58] <saib0t> New version of my Ubuntu loginscreen is out.! http://gnomelook.org/content/pre1/33444-1.jpg
[11:58] <evert> i'm trying it now :)
[11:58] <kemik> evert:  or you could use "cp" which i copy
[11:58] <kemik> cp source destination
[11:58] <kemik> JuhazOne:  i'm not sure if linux would autodetect the new device... i *hope* so ;)
[11:59] <evert> when i try gksudo nautilius , i get an error :(
[11:59] <kemik> JuhazOne:  try enabling it and see what happens
[11:59] <JuhazOne> k
[11:59] <JuhazOne> kemik: thanks :)
[11:59] <JuhazOne> -->
[11:59] <Madpilot> evert: what error?
[11:59] <evert> command not found
[11:59] <Kindred> nautilus not nautilius btw
[12:00] <kemik> evert:  spelled it wrong
[12:00] <Madpilot> evert: spelling counts on the command line! :P
[12:00] <kemik> cant just copy paste what i say *hehhehe
[12:00] <evert> lol i know
[12:00] <evert> i copy pasted it !
[12:00] <Kindred> :)
[12:00] <kemik> im errorprone
[12:00] <evert> this is what i did in console : evert@evert:~$ gksudo nautilius
[12:00] <evert> sudo: nautilius: command not found
[12:01] <kemik> yeah
[12:01] <kemik> well gksudo nautilus
[12:01] <Madpilot> evert: nautilus - no 2nd i
[12:01] <mahangu> how can i install .ttf fonts in ubuntu?
[12:01] <evert> ah ok :)
[12:01] <Madpilot> !fonts
[12:01] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[12:01] <mal1> woot, got maya working on this laptop
[12:01] <mal1> so easy too
[12:02] <mal1> alien is awesome
[12:02] <kemik> !info acroread
[12:02] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[12:02] <ZiX_> !info alienware
[12:02] <ZiX_> !alienware
[12:02] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ZiX_
[12:02] <Madpilot> !info alien
[12:03] <Madpilot> !alien
[12:03] <evert> i dit the nautilus thing , it worked , but i still can't paste the file into that mozilla firefox map ?
[12:03] <ubotu> methinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:03] <kemik> evert:  what error do you get?
[12:03] <SmerdyKoV_> ah sweet
[12:03] <kemik> evert:  and beware, using nautilus with root permissions can be devastating...
[12:03] <SmerdyKoV_> sweet sweet linux users to help me with my computing needs
[12:03] <evert> i don't get an error ... if i right klick , i can't use the "'past" thing in the menu ...
[12:03] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  just ask you real question
[12:04] <Stork> HELP! i keep getting this error ("/home/alex/torrent: No such file or directory") when doing "scp -r ~/torrent/ alex@192.168.0.10:/home/alex/"
[12:04] <kemik> evert:  well, you have to copy it first
[12:04] <evert> ?
[12:04] <kemik> you cant just "paste" it from nowhere
[12:04] <kemik> have to copy it first..aiiit
[12:04] <SmerdyKoV_> i was just wondering if someone could direct me to a channel at which i could learn the basics of hacking
[12:04] <evert> i have copied it in another screen
[12:04] <evert> :s
[12:04] <Stork> SmerdyKoV_, #script-kiddies
[12:04] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  'hacking' eh? ;)
[12:04] <Madpilot> SmerdyKoV_: "hacking" in what sense?
[12:05] <Stork> you'll never be a leet haxor like i am.
[12:05] <SmerdyKoV_> breaking into other people's computers
[12:05] <Stork> lol.
[12:05] <SmerdyKoV_> i.e. lone gunmen
[12:05] <Kindred> heh
[12:05] <kemik> evert:  well, it doesnt carry over to anohter process
[12:05] <Stork> a) that's illegal, b) this isn't the place for it, c) no
[12:05] <kemik> evert:  what have you copied btw, a File or just text ?
[12:06] <evert> now it workded :
[12:06] <Stork> HELP! i keep getting this error ("/home/alex/torrent: No such file or directory") when doing "scp -r ~/torrent/ alex@192.168.0.10:/home/alex/"
[12:06] <kemik> evert:  good
[12:06] <evert> thanks kemik :)
[12:06] <kemik> np
[12:06] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  grow up :P
[12:06] <SmerdyKoV_> yeah i should
[12:06] <Stork> it's not hard anyway
[12:06] <evert> linux isn't that easy as i hoped it i'll be :(
[12:06] <Stork> a simple home-made trojan will suffice
[12:06] <SmerdyKoV_> I just feel very ignorant trying to learn the workings of computers without knowing even the concept behind hacking
[12:06] <JuhazOne> wow
[12:07] <JuhazOne> you guys are awesome
[12:07] <JuhazOne> wget works perfectly now :))
[12:07] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  there are alot of ways to 'hack'.. usually exploit bugs in programs etc.. or you can social-engineer.. now go use google
[12:07] <Madpilot> evert: it's different, and a bit more locked down than Windows - which is one of the major reasons it's more secure, too
[12:08] <kemik> i think vista will be 'harder' to learn as well
[12:08] <evert> yes , but you have to do some many things with the console :(
[12:08] <JuhazOne> kemik: thanks :)
[12:08] <kemik> evert:  not really... there are GUI equivalents to alot of things
[12:08] <kemik> JuhazOne:  works?
[12:08] <sudhir> which repo has mplayer ?
[12:08] <JuhazOne> kemik: yup
[12:08] <pienilammas> When I try to install ubuntu from the CD-rom my pc doesn't respond at all. Did someone have the same problem? does  someone know how to solve it?
[12:09] <kemik> JuhazOne:  good... could be driverissue or failiinghardware.... hard to determine which it is
[12:09] <sudhir> pienil : does ur comp respond to other OS while booting from CD ?
[12:09] <JuhazOne> kemik: yep...
[12:09] <Madpilot> evert: there are some very good basic console tutorials out there - it's not that scary and even pretty cool, some of things you can do in console
[12:09] <kemik> sudhir:  universe/multiverse
[12:09] <Stork> is there any way to "alt+tab" out of quake4 while it's running in full screen mode? the only way i can get working is ctrl+alt+backspace, which is pretty annoying having to restart everything
[12:09] <JuhazOne> it was interesting though that the nic worked a while after installing a new kernel
[12:10] <sudhir> kemik : I open all :( but no use :(
[12:10] <kemik> sudhir:  well it's there... tried search ?
[12:10] <cyphase> http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/12/27/web-2
[12:10] <evert> madpilot , do you know a site with some of that basic console tutorials on ?
[12:10] <sudhir> yeh did it says mozilla mplayer plugin
[12:10] <pienilammas> Sudhir: I was able to boot knoppix live cd but not ubuntu live cd.
[12:11] <Seigmann> hello, does anybody know about any programs who is compatible with Ipod, or are there any way to get Itunes for linux?
[12:11] <kemik> sudhir:  did you update after adding repos?
[12:11] <SmerdyKoV_> no one in script kiddies
[12:11] <kemik> !info mplayer
[12:11] <ulaas> Seigmann, banshee
[12:11] <Seigmann> thanks, Ill try that..
[12:11] <sudhir> yep
[12:11] <Stork> is there any way to "alt+tab" out of quake4 while it's running in full screen mode? the only way i can get working is ctrl+alt+backspace, which is pretty annoying having to restart everything
[12:12] <Madpilot> !tell evert about cli
[12:12] <evert> cli ?
[12:12] <kemik> sudhir:  well i took it from universe or multiverse i'm sure
[12:13] <sudhir> pienil : did u perform md checksum
[12:13] <Madpilot> evert: the bot should have sent you a message?
[12:13] <sudhir> kemik : humm.... :( ok last option, let me compile from source code ( I hate this ;)
[12:14] <kemik> sudhir:  you really dont have to compile it
[12:14] <kemik> sudhir:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6739
[12:14] <Madpilot> evert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[12:15] <evert> ah i see
[12:15] <evert> sorry
[12:15] <Stork> how do i extract a bunch of .rar files into one single file?
[12:15] <evert> thanx for the links !
[12:15] <docta_v> Stork: unrar
[12:15] <sudhir> wow thats cool
[12:16] <kemik> sudhir:  it's in "multiverse" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[12:16] <SmerdyKoV_> kemik: what do you recomend i search for on google, "hacking" returns PLENTY of irrelevant material
[12:16] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  i wont do your homework
[12:16] <sudhir> kemik : can u cp ur /etc/apt/source.list
[12:16] <moodog> Morning all.
[12:16] <Stork> docta_v, there's like 20 rar files (.r01, .r02, etc) and together they make up a whole file. what's the command to extract them into one file?
[12:16] <pienilammas> sudhir: no, but I've tried two cd for ubuntu: one form ubuntulunux.org and the other form linuxmagazine cd. and both they work perfectly on my other pc.
[12:16] <Madpilot> later, all... I need sleep
[12:17] <SmerdyKoV_> :S
[12:17] <docta_v> Stork: unrar
[12:17] <kemik> sudhir:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6740 <- should be what you want
[12:17] <docta_v> SmerdyKoV_: try "buffer overflow"
[12:17] <wdh> Stork, just unrar the main file.. probably *.rar
[12:17] <SmerdyKoV_> what would that be?
[12:17] <Stork> oh ok
[12:19] <docta_v> what's up with people coming in here for help extracting their warez
[12:19] <docta_v> never happened to me in any other linux channel
[12:20] <kemik> docta_v:  just cause stuff is .rared doesnt mean it's "WAREZ"
[12:20] <wdh> docta_v, well.. maybe he's trying to unrar his brother's backups :P
[12:20] <kemik> (even tho it probably is...)
[12:20] <SmerdyKoV_> are there any channels that might be more helpful to my hacking research
[12:20] <SmerdyKoV_> i.e. want to get rid of me/
[12:21] <docta_v> kemik: it's like when I worked tech support at an ISP and customers needed help with binary newsgroups. of course it was porn
[12:21] <docta_v> but you just had to pretend it was something legit
[12:21] <SmerdyKoV_> i was afraid to take my computer to the shop because of the massive ammount of porn on my media partition
[12:21] <SmerdyKoV_> lol
[12:21] <docta_v> SmerdyKoV_: i told you to google for buffer overflow...get to work
[12:22] <SmerdyKoV_> i did
[12:22] <wdh> SmerdyKoV_, i guess it goes the other way around.. learn everything of computers there is to know.. and then you'll be an excellent hacker
[12:22] <SmerdyKoV_> i don't really understand what i'm supposed to see
[12:22] <frans-th> hi all
[12:22] <frans-th> i am a breezy user, want to know how to install openoffice 2.0 in my ubuntu
[12:22] <kemik> docta_v:  it could be regular "anime" ... heh
[12:22] <SmerdyKoV_> :S
[12:22] <frans-th> can help
[12:22] <docta_v> that's because you only spent five minutes looking at it instead of 2 weeks
[12:22] <SmerdyKoV_> i'm not looking to learn how, i just want to know the basic concepts
[12:23] <docta_v> go to wikipedia or something then
[12:23] <wdh> frans-th, "Applications" -> "Add applications" ?
[12:24] <wdh> frans-th, or: " System" -> "Administration" -> "Synaptic Package Manager"
[12:24] <docta_v> SmerdyKoV_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker
[12:24] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  this isnt "hackers"
[12:24] <kemik> "#hackers"
[12:24] <SmerdyKoV_> that's all i was looking for
[12:24] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  first you'll have to learn how to use GOOGLE
[12:24] <docta_v> kemik: lmao
[12:24] <docta_v> and wikipedia
[12:25] <kemik> wikipedia rocks
[12:25] <pigor> hallo
[12:25] <SmerdyKoV_> well not knowing basics of computer operating systems, looking up obscure technical facts doesn't really help me
[12:26] <SmerdyKoV_> i'm trying to find what the basic concept of "hacking" is
[12:26] <docta_v> so learn the basics then
[12:26] <berkes> hello good people :)
[12:26] <wdh> SmerdyKoV_, i already told you so.. hacking is all about obscure technical facts.. get a clue.. learn everything there is to know about computers.. and after that start thinking about hacking..
[12:26] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  i already told you the basic concept(s)
[12:26] <frans-th> wdh: i find still 1.9.x
[12:27] <frans-th> wdh: the openoffice 2.0 is not there
[12:27] <kemik> SmerdyKoV_:  exploiting bugs, or social engineering basically..
[12:27] <docta_v> and read that entire wikipedia entry including all the external links
[12:27] <pigor> i have just made a new ubuntu installation and wanna revover my evolution address book (i have saved my ".evolution" directory)
[12:27] <berkes> what is the ubuntu "good practice" for adding binaries and scripts to my user account?
[12:27] <berkes> i mean: what to put in PATH and where to store them?
[12:27] <wdh> frans-th, you are probably right there.. openoffice2.0 was released after the release of breezy.. and therefore it has not been included..
[12:28] <pigor> first i have tried to use the import function - but it seems not to support address books
[12:28] <fancy> god ,so many E~anybody is Chinese ?
[12:28] <fancy> ?
[12:28] <berkes> wdh: frans-th, odd, because my kubuntu ships with 2.0
[12:28] <wdh> frans-th, the 1.9.x works fine for me though.. i recommend using that and waiting untill Dapper comes in april..
[12:28] <pigor> then i have copied the whole ".evolution" directory in my home ... but no addresses :-(
[12:29] <berkes> about the executables: should I put them under ~/bin ?
[12:29] <wdh> berkes, it doesnt.. it's called openoffice2, but is actually of version 1.9.129-something..
[12:29] <pigor> berkes: why not? but you have to put ~/bin in your PATH (-> .bashrc)
[12:30] <berkes> pigor: no reason why not, :)
[12:30] <berkes> pigor: i wanted to know what the "ubuntu defaults" are for this
[12:30] <GURT> how can i clear the cache of things i've entered into a terminal windows command line?
[12:30] <berkes> I mean, off course I can put them under ~/coffeemug and add that to $PATH
[12:31] <pienilammas> please, can someone help mi in installing my ubunt version? teh cd rom doesn't work on this PC and I would find another way or a solution.
[12:31] <berkes> but i doubt that that is the ubuntu default :)
[12:31] <pigor> berkes: are there any defaults? .. never heared about that
[12:31] <GURT> if i press the up arrow i get all the things i've typed, is there a way ot clear those?
[12:31] <wdh> berkes, try "apt-cache show openoffice.org2 | grep Version:"  What does it say?
[12:31] <berkes> pigor: no, neither have I
[12:31] <Myrtti> refresh my memory, is 5GB enough for Ubuntu installation?
[12:32] <berkes> wdh: Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 indeed
[12:32] <kemik> Myrtti:  yes
[12:32] <Myrtti> thanks.
[12:32] <TengkSA> what program do you use as a P2P like limewire or kazaa
[12:32] <berkes> wdh: because previously the spash had this ugly 1.9^D^D 2.0 thing, I thought it now shipped 2.0
[12:33] <pigor> TengkSA: frostwire
[12:33] <wdh> berkes, you'll probably wont notice the difference anyway :)
[12:33] <berkes> TengkSA: and on linux emule is quit well supported
[12:33] <berkes> wdh: i hope I will, its very unstable still (on KDE)
[12:33] <TengkSA> what is better.. frostwire or emule? and is there such a thing as spyware on linux
[12:34] <berkes> but I hardly use it anyway. Faaaar to bloated, slow and crufty anyway.
[12:34] <wdh> berkes, ok, didnt know that.. i happen to dislike office suites ;P
[12:34] <pigor> TengkSA: never heared about spyware on linux
[12:34] <berkes> I very much prefer koffice.
[12:35] <berkes> its, i remember, 15% the size of oo.o
[12:35] <berkes> still it offers nearly 80% of the features.
[12:35] <katie_> Anyone familiar with matroska on Ubuntu?
[12:36] <berkes> and it loads 3.75 times faster here, too. But that is because KDE has the libs and stuff preloaded off course
[12:36] <TengkSA> pigor, will you please guide me through the installation of frostwire once i have downloadaed it
[12:37] <tuomas1> Little help with installation needed: installation freezes on an amilo d8830 laptop. any ideas?
[12:38] <frans-th> wdh, why should i wait, if i can install now? but how :P
[12:38] <berkes> tuomas1: did you try the -noapic options'?
[12:39] <tuomas1> berkes: thanks, I'll give it a try
[12:39] <joshi> hei hei ppl! :) i got problem
[12:39] <Katie^> Haven't we all...
[12:39] <joshi> i maneged to get work UT goty but it runs too fast...
[12:40] <joshi> like twice faster than normal
[12:40] <pigor> TengkSA: ok .. i will try
[12:40] <wdh> frans-th, for stability purposes i would say.. but then again.. berkes tells me that its not that stable at the moment..
[12:41] <wdh> frans-th, so i would recommend that you tried 1.9.xxx and only upgrade to 2.0 if you find that it is really unstable/annoying..
[12:41] <frans-th> wdh, what is that mean?
[12:41] <berkes> wdh: i think that has much to do with KDE
[12:41] <frans-th> wdh, i use in windows, 2.0 is very stable, and i want it in my ubuntu,
[12:41] <frans-th> wsh, how can you said it is unstable?
[12:42] <orhs_> hey
[12:42] <berkes> oowriter2: sys     0m1.336s | kword: sys     0m0.068s
[12:42] <wdh> frans-th, never mind.. do whatever you think you should do.. i think i said enough for now..
[12:43] <berkes> that is incredible! openoffice needs nearly 20 times as much time as koffice to load a file.
[12:43] <wdh> :)
[12:43] <orhs_> ya all know that ubuntu supports the "3com officeConnect wireless 11g pc card" thats version 1.0 right? well ubuntu dosen't support my card but thats exactly like besides that it is Version 2.0 !
[12:43] <TengkSA> can someone please help me install frostwire
[12:43] <mwe> berkes: so what. who can't wait one second for a file to open?
[12:43] <frans-th> wdh, when will the stabel 2.0 can be run in ubuntu? must wait druppe?
[12:43] <ompaul> berkes, now make both of thise files around 10 megs and see see how long it takes
[12:44] <berkes> mwest: that is the system time
[12:44] <welp> how is ubuntu with bluetooth?
[12:44] <TengkSA> ANYONE?!!?
[12:44] <orhs_> good welp
[12:44] <berkes> the real time is 50 seconds vs 4.8 seconds
[12:44] <ompaul> frans-th, dapper
[12:44] <berkes> that is a minute vs instantaniously.
[12:44] <frans-th> ompaul, right :P
[12:44] <mwe> berkes: 50 seconds to open a file? your system must be broken
[12:44] <ompaul> !patients
[12:44] <ubotu> ompaul: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:45] <berkes> mwest: no you are getting me wront
[12:45] <berkes> wrong
[12:45] <welp> orhs_, i have a PDA with bluetooth and if i get a bluetooth thing for my ubuntu laptop reckon i could use it?
[12:45] <TengkSA> ompaul, heya
[12:45] <wdh> for another matter: can anyone tell me how to get the usplash working on breezy? i upgraded it from hoary earlier.. but the usplash seems to fail on a message like: "insmod: cant read /lib/modules/xxxx/vesafb.ko"
[12:45] <ompaul> TengkSA, hello
[12:45] <berkes> 50 seconds to load a file by firing op openoffice completely
[12:45] <lucasvo> welp: I don't think WinCE will like it
[12:45] <Katie^> how do i run mplayer with GUI
[12:45] <orhs_> welp, Yes i think so. it worked fine between my cell and laptop
[12:45] <mwe> berkes: oh
[12:46] <berkes> my point is, no-one can deny that, that open office is HUGE, and quite slow, in doing stuff.
[12:46] <welp> orhs_, ok, thanks, do i need to install anything on the laptop or is it plug and play?
[12:46] <frans-th> hmb
[12:46] <wdh> berkes, it is huge.. but when loaded.. it can be quite fast though..
[12:47] <berkes> even compared to microsoft office it performs horrible. The reasons are obvious for a developer/tech savvy person. But the end user gets to see a bloated system
[12:47] <TengkSA> PLEASE will someone help me install frostwire???? **
[12:47] <orhs_> welp, Do you have any bluetooth programs installed ?
[12:47] <kestas> takes me 15 secs to open a doc in openoffice on a 1.5celeron 512mb ram
[12:47] <mwe> berkes: it took 15 secs here. but then again I run kde and oowriter uses gtk so it needs to load that too. I might have been faster in gnome. but yes oo is big
[12:47] <ompaul> berkes, discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:47] <berkes> ompaul: sorry :)
[12:47] <welp> orhs_, i'm installing ubuntu right now
[12:48] <ompaul> TengkSA, give it a few minutes before you ask again - maybe that no one knows
[12:48] <kestas> in the benchmarks oo.o performs better than MS office, but lower in features
[12:48] <wdh> TengkSA, obviously.. noone even remotely seems to know what frostwire is :)
[12:48] <docta_v> ompaul: wouldn't it just be sudo apt-get install frostwire
[12:48] <tHomE> hi i cant mount my windows partition mount say no volume but it still there ?
[12:48] <orhs_> oh. when it its finished and ubuntu is on the run. Go to synaptic and search for bluetooth there is a few applications u should install for activateing bluetooth on your machine
[12:48] <ompaul> docta_v, I don't even know what it is where it is from
[12:48] <wdh> TengkSA, ok.. "FrostWire is an absolutely free Gnutella P2P application"
[12:49] <berkes> getting back on topic :) you can install 2.0 on ubuntu, frans-th, but unless you experience instability, there is hardly any reason to do so. the version in ubuntu and the released 2.0 hardly differ.
[12:49] <mahangu_> inkscape asks me for a command to when i say to print
[12:49] <wdh> TengkSA, i recommend install "gtk-gnutella" from "System" -> "Administration" -> "synaptic package manager"
[12:49] <mahangu_> where would my printer be? (path)
[12:49] <ompaul> docta_v, it does not exist in main, universe, multiverse W: Unable to locate package frostwire
[12:50] <docta_v> ah...must be junkie then
[12:50] <Katie^> how do i run mplayer with a gui
[12:50] <TengkSA> wdh, but what if i wanna use frostwire
[12:50] <Kindred> the version of gtk-gnutella in the repos wont work, it was upgraded a week or two ago
[12:50] <cafuego> !find frostwire
[12:50] <wdh> Katie^, gmplayer
[12:50] <Katie^> thanks.
[12:50] <pigor_> hello .. i have made a fresh installation of my system and now cannot recover my evolution address book. i have copied ".evolution", eMails are there but now addresses :-( can anyone help me please?
[12:50] <mahangu_> would my printer be in /dev/ ?
[12:50] <frans-th> berkes, can explain more easily, is that mean, install ubuntu with oo 2.0 is not recommended?
[12:51] <ompaul> TengkSA, you can, but you have to support yourself, you should also be aware that installing random packages can break stuff
[12:51] <Katie^> Also, im trying to play a matroska file, and I've downloaded the codecs, should it work fine? or what?
[12:51] <berkes> frans-th: no, there is nothing withholding you from doing so. But it is unnessecary to go trough all that hassle.
[12:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'frostwire' returned no results.
[12:51] <wdh> TengkSA, obviously, we are not going to help you break your system :)
[12:51] <cafuego> frans-th: OO.o2 comes _with_ Ubuntu.
[12:51] <cafuego> TengkSA: Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[12:51] <berkes> frans-th: you will no longer have a vanilla ubuntu, and so, while you will not feel, see, hear any difference
[12:52] <Linuturk> I have a amd 64 bit processor. Should I install the i86 for better driver support, or would it be safe to install the 64 bit version? Would I get better performance out of the 64-bit version?
[12:52] <ompaul> frans-th, it is not built for breezy nor will it be, but you then have to manage any issues yourself you loose the security of the distro, as in others managing problems they become yours do this with 10 packages and you now have to watch a lot of stuff
[12:52] <cafuego> Linuturk: Will you need flash, java and video (movie) support?
[12:52] <Katie^> This is really starting to piss me off.
[12:52] <Linuturk> cafuego, probably
[12:53] <cafuego> Linuturk: Then i386 is the way to go.
[12:53] <ompaul> Katie^, language please
[12:53] <wdh> frans-th, upgrade to dapper next april.. it will have OOo 2.0 by then :)
[12:53] <Linuturk> cafuego, will I notice a big performance loss?
[12:53] <ompaul> Linuturk, if you notice it you will be sharpest person on planet earth
[12:53] <cafuego> Linuturk: Not on normal desktop work, no. Compiling will be slower, but unless you compile a LOT that shouldn't be an issue.
[12:54] <wdh> pigor_, try "sudo chown -R YOURUSERNAMEHERE ~/.evolution"
[12:54] <kestas> I want 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb' to run automatically at bootup, but I'm not sure how to do it cleanly
[12:54] <Linuturk> cool, sounds good, thanks fellas
[12:54] <kestas> I could always hack some rc file but I'd rather do it right
[12:54] <frans-th> wdh, in our experience here, in fedora, we never love to upgrade the OS, except bugs that annoyin gour work
[12:54] <cafuego> Linuturk: make sure /home is on a *separate* partition, then you can upgrade the system to 64bit at any time without losing any data.
[12:54] <frans-th> wdh, but i am think of ugrade my breezy to dapper :P
[12:54] <Linuturk> Ubuntu install takes about 3 gigs, right?
[12:55] <cafuego> Linuturk: around 2GB for the base desktop system
[12:55] <frans-th> Linuturk, the problem no in 3 gigs, but we have to coonnect to the net, and indonesian internet slow
[12:55] <Katie^> okay
[12:55] <Katie^> so i got it working
[12:55] <Katie^> but there's no sound
[12:55] <Katie^> ideas?
[12:56] <cafuego> !return
[12:56] <ubotu> cafuego: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:56] <welp> i bet everyone my sound will not work out of the box
[12:56] <cafuego> !enter
[12:56] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:56] <Linuturk> cafuego, well, it's good to have that padding there. Will packages be installed on the base system partition or the user file partiton?
[12:56] <cafuego> Linuturk: no software is ever installed to /home
[12:56] <Linuturk> cafuego, so tis better to have the base system larger for any apps I want to install
[12:57] <cafuego> Linuturk: So if you need 64bit, or wwant to change when it's mature, simply format the system partition, install, then re-mount /home.
[12:57] <cafuego> Linuturk: Yeah, probably 5GB just in case.
[12:57] <Linuturk> okie dokie
[12:57] <cafuego> Linuturk: Most stuff goes into /usr (3GB on my machine)
[12:58] <Caius> hey, is there an ubuntu ppc channel or do I ask in here?
[12:58] <cafuego> Caius: just ask
[12:59] <cafuego> (There's only 4 people on #ubuntu-ppc)
[12:59] <Caius> my machine is old and the hardware clock doesn't keep the time anymore, so the boot hangs on "setting system clock using hardware clock as reference" for a while
[12:59] <Caius> anyway to disable that?
[12:59] <Caius> or skip it
[12:59] <cafuego> Caius: Yep, there is.
[12:59] <berkes> bah, stupid me. I just opened .bash_profile and found that the ubuntu default for local, userspace bin is indeed ~/bin
[12:59] <Morrowyn> http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/browseimages.php?do=member&imageuser=64336
[12:59] <Caius> cafuego: how!
[01:00] <Morrowyn> human theme wallpaper
[01:00] <Morrowyn> i created this morning
[01:00] <cafuego> Caius: sudo $EDITOR /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh
[01:00] <Caius> cafuego: its still hung on setting the clock on bootup atm :(
[01:00] <cafuego> Caius: Under "HWCLOCKPARS" insert "exit 0" on a line by itself, without quotes.
[01:00] <Morrowyn> im off, cya
[01:01] <Caius> Morrowyn: cya
[01:02] <kestas> I want 'sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/hdb' to run automatically at bootup, but I'm not sure how to do it cleanly
[01:02] <kestas> I could always hack some rc file but I'd rather do it right
[01:03] <cafuego> kestas: sudo $EDITOR /etc/default/hdparm
[01:03] <cafuego> 'defaults' even, I think
[01:03] <Caius> cafuego: its still stuck there :(
[01:03] <cafuego> Add in the disk and add in the parm. You may want -c1 and -u1 too.
[01:03] <cafuego> Caius: ctrl-c it
[01:03] <Caius> cafuego: no effect
[01:03] <cafuego> BenC: How's the new laptop? :-)
[01:04] <cafuego> Caius: ctrl-\ ?
[01:04] <Caius> cafuego: rebooted it, waiting for it to hang now
[01:05] <Caius> cafuego: nope
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: boot it with 'init=/bin/bash' as params to the kernel.
[01:05] <Caius> cafuego: pardon?
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: That'll teach it!
[01:05] <Caius> Linux init=/bin/bash
[01:05] <Caius> ?
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: When you get the yaboot prompt, 'Linux init=/bin/bash'
[01:05] <Stork> if my game is an .iso file how do i install it?
[01:05] <Caius> cafuego: OK
[01:05] <cafuego> Caius: Yeah, that'll make it run a shell instead of the init scripts.
[01:06] <Caius> cafuego: I'm at home in bash :)
[01:06] <cafuego> Caius: Now edit /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh
[01:06] <pm> hello dupki :)
[01:07] <cafuego> Caius: just insert 'exit 0' at the top of the file, that'll make it just exit,.
[01:07] <cafuego> you!@
[01:07] <pm> hello cafuego :)
[01:07] <pm> dupku :)
[01:07] <Caius> cafuego: k
[01:08] <TTilus> black-on-white xterm annoys me, how can i make it white-on-black?  (reverse video, xterm -rv or xterm -r does not help)
[01:08] <pm> hello TTilus :)
[01:08] <cafuego> TTilus: xterm -fg white -bg black
[01:08] <nailhead> pm jestes z polski :] ?
[01:08] <Stork> if my game is an .iso file how do i install it?
[01:08] <cafuego> TTilus: Consider rxvt, much nicer too.
[01:08] <pm> sorry?
[01:08] <cafuego> !pl
[01:08] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[01:09] <TTilus> cafuego: thanx that helped
[01:09] <TTilus> pm: hello
[01:10] <TTilus> cafuego: any idea why -rv does not swap colors, it used to work?
[01:11] <nailhead> i have  question how to install xmms ,i dont know how to do this becouse i have only one day this system
[01:11] <nailhead> so i dont know
[01:11] <TTilus> cafuego: what are the "much nicer" things of rxvt?  (convince me!)
[01:11] <pm> is there a version of kubuntu with kde 3.5?
[01:11] <ccooke> nailhead: Click System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:11] <ccooke> nailhead: then, search for xmms
[01:12] <nailhead> i try dpkg -i xmms.1.2.10 and nothing
[01:12] <pm> if so, where can i find it?
[01:12] <Caius> cafuego: just says "can't open file for writing: read only file system"
[01:12] <nailhead> ccooke i try this one but nothing happends
[01:12] <Caius> think I might reinstall it
[01:12] <ccooke> nailhead: double click on it when it appears in the list, say "okay" to any prompts about additional packages, and click the "Apply" button.
[01:12] <TTilus> nailhead: or $ sudo aptitude install xmms
[01:13] <nailhead> ok i will try
[01:13] <TTilus> nailhead: take a quick look on synaptic help, you'll learn alot
[01:13] <nailhead> wait a one moment :)
[01:13] <pm> xmms has ugly fonts
[01:14] <mwe> pm: yeah
[01:14] <Toma-> pm: bmp has nice fonts, and is exactly the same as xmms
[01:14] <pm> you have to work a little to get things better
[01:15] <pm> Toma-, amarok rules! :)
[01:15] <Toma-> bah, not in gnome :D
[01:15] <manuellord> alguem usa o ubuntu em portugal aqui?
[01:15] <TTilus> pm: depends mostly on the definition of "better"
[01:16] <Stork> gnomebaker gives me this whenever i try to burn an iso image onto my cd: ":-( /dev/hdb: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"
[01:16] <pm> much more advanced???
[01:17] <TTilus> !pt
[01:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[01:17] <pm> have you heard about songbird?
[01:17] <TTilus> manuellord: does that help?
[01:17] <pm> sounds interesting
[01:17] <manuellord> thank you ttilus
[01:18] <Stork> gnomebaker gives me this whenever i try to burn an iso image onto my cd: ":-( /dev/hdb: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"? it's a 4.7gb dvd-rw.. do i need just a dvd-r ?
[01:18] <TTilus> manuellord: yre wellcome
[01:18] <TTilus> Stork: is your drive recognized to handle dvd-rw
[01:19] <Stork> in the device settings it doesn't recognise the drive as being able to write anything
[01:19] <Stork> not even CD-R
[01:19] <TTilus> Stork: so, thats the problem
[01:19] <TTilus> Stork: somehow ubuntu thinks you drive is not capable of doing that
[01:20] <TTilus> Stork: is it?
[01:20] <TTilus> Stork: (just to make sure)
[01:20] <Caius> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/103.html
[01:21] <Stork> i should think so, how can i check?
[01:21] <TTilus> Stork: have you been able to write anything with it ever?
[01:21] <sdaserver> Question: What's the best way to make my ubuntu machine a dedicated server for Internet use on my network?
[01:22] <TTilus> sdaserver: what you want it to do?
[01:22] <TTilus> sdaserver: "dedicated server for Internet use" is rather vagye
[01:22] <TTilus> s/vagye/vague/
[01:23] <Stork> TTilus, nope
[01:23] <sdaserver> TTilus: I want it to stand as my Internet router, i guess
[01:23] <sdaserver> TTilus: I mean Internet gateway
[01:24] <sdaserver> TTilus: And then it should also work as my DHCP server
[01:24] <TTilus> Stork: try $ hdparm -i /dev/[cdromdev] 
[01:25] <TTilus> Stork: what does it say the 'Model' is?
[01:25] <TTilus> sdaserver: dhcp server for "internal" network and NAT-router?
[01:25] <Qzxc> how many ubuntu versions are there i mean is there stable+ unstable or only 5.04 and etc ..
[01:26] <TTilus> sdaserver: install base system, configure networking to route and do NAT
[01:27] <delta> Hi.
[01:27] <sdaserver> TTilus: I'm a newbie in Linux (3 days old), and i'm still lost at how to configure networking services
[01:27] <TTilus> sdaserver: for nat your /etc/network/interfaces should have "up iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o [externalinterface]  -j MASQUERADE" under you internal interface conf
[01:27] <Qzxc> ps anyone here uses Iwiz ? im seraching from to donload it ...
[01:27] <delta> I'm trying to burn a dvd-rw with gnombaker but it freezes. Any other application?
[01:27] <Qzxc> where
[01:28] <TTilus> sdaserver: you either edit text files under /etc/network or use gui tools provided
[01:28] <sdaserver> TTilus: The last thing I was trying was webmin, but i can't login
[01:28] <docta_v> delta: there's a version of nero for linux...i think there's a free trial version
[01:28] <TTilus> sdaserver: i prefer editing text-files, its simple
[01:29] <delta> docta_v, I'd prefer a GPL-like program. Any suggestion?
[01:29] <delta> docta_v, I mean GPL free :)
[01:29] <sdaserver> TTilus: I could try that, text-file editing
[01:29] <TTilus> sdaserver: i think you should start from linux tutorial before running into configuring router, ok?
[01:29] <sdaserver> TTilus: yeah, i'm researching online for more info
[01:30] <sdaserver> TTilus: I am getting what you mean though coz i ran across the iptables thing sometime yesterday
[01:31] <TTilus> sdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html
[01:32] <delta> Any pb with dvd+rw maybe?
[01:32] <TTilus> sdaserver: and keep in mind that ubuntu is a kind of debian
[01:32] <docta_v> delta: tried k3b?
[01:32] <delta> docta_v, not yet. But I will if you recommend it.
[01:32] <sdaserver> thanks TTilus
[01:33] <TTilus> sdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/users-guide.en.html
[01:38] <sdaserver> TTilus: Thanks for the links. i've been looking for stuff like this for a long time
[01:38] <takedown> hi there
[01:39] <wdh> can anyone tell me how to get the usplash working on breezy? i upgraded my system from hoary earlier.. but the usplash seems to fail on a message like: "insmod: cant read /lib/modules/xxxx/vesafb.ko" Anything i can do about this, apart from a reinstall of breezy?
[01:39] <takedown> i have a little question
[01:39] <TTilus> sdaserver: http://www.debian.org/doc/#manuals is the place for comprehensive manuals and tutorials
[01:40] <geert_> are your permission on vesafb correct?
[01:40] <takedown> i installed cedega on chroot on my amd64 breezy, updated to last version, but cedega dont see video drivers. How i can fix it? (sry for my terrible english)
[01:41] <takedown> i try to run a game, but game run very slowly
[01:41] <geert_> takedown, do you have direct rendering enabled?
[01:41] <takedown> yes
[01:42] <geert_> and you are using binary drivers?
[01:42] <takedown> takedown@breezy:~$ glxinfo |grep direct
[01:42] <takedown> direct rendering: Yes
[01:42] <takedown> yep
[01:42] <takedown> i installed drivers with instruction on ubuntu forum
[01:43] <geert_> hmm... guess that is as far as my knowledge of cedega goes....
[01:43] <geert_> I don't use it, coz I hate to pay
[01:43] <geert_> or use CVS versions...
[01:43] <geert_> sorry
[01:44] <takedown> so ok, may be someone else can help me?
[01:44] <TTilus> takedown: dunno nothing about cadega, but does the chroot env have required devices ( say /dev/dri/* ) available?
[01:44] <takedown> wait a minute, i go to see this
[01:44] <TTilus> (just guessing, if the prog inside chroot wants to use dri or like)
[01:44] <Caius> how can I enter a blank password or set ubuntu to auto login to my account?
[01:45] <Caius> is either possible?
[01:45] <geert_> try gdm configure program
[01:45] <TTilus> Caius: autologin is gdm conf
[01:45] <Caius> k
[01:45] <TTilus> iirc
[01:45] <takedown> i have card0 in /dev/dri on chroot
[01:45] <abelli> hi there
[01:45] <geert_> hello
[01:45] <TTilus> takedown: ok, then permissions?
[01:46] <takedown> crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 226, 0 2006-01-07 07:28 /dev/dri/card0
[01:46] <Zugot> if i have kubuntu installed, and i want the regular ubuntu as well, all i have to do is apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, correct?
[01:46] <geert_> just, some side note, but have you tried a native linux 3d game?
[01:47] <geert_> Zugot, that is correct... however, you'll get a real populated menu
[01:47] <takedown> yes i have a native ut2004 and it works well...
[01:47] <Zugot> geert_: i can handle that...
[01:47] <Zugot> i wanna use kde, my girlfriend prefers gnome
[01:47] <ves> Has anybody got any idea what the "System terminal font" is?
[01:48] <Zugot> plus, i have the flu today, so if i screw it up, i have nothing else to do
[01:48] <abelli> is there any good guide for converting divx' into dvds'?
[01:48] <geert_> You can handle it...
[01:48] <takedown> TTilus: so, what do u think?
[01:48] <welp> how can i install fluxbox? what do i need to do?
[01:48] <ves> abelli: check out http://fredrik.hubbe.net/hacks/mkdvd.html
[01:48] <takedown> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[01:49] <geert_> btw Zugot, you can use smeg to hide those Kde entries for your girlfriend...
[01:49] <abelli> ves: thks
[01:49] <Kindred> !fluxbox
[01:49] <ubotu> well, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[01:50] <welp> thankee!
[01:50] <Katie^> how can I use Xine to play a movie?
[01:50] <takedown> xine filename.avi
[01:50] <Katie^> http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7gq.png
[01:50] <geert_> Have you got your win32 codecs installed?
[01:50] <takedown> or just type xine in console
[01:50] <bryanl> apt-get install gnome-desktop fineshed running in 3 minutes... i love my internet connection
[01:50] <Katie^> cmd not fond
[01:51] <geert_> sudo apt-get install xine xine-ui
[01:51] <Katie^> someone saids omething about using synaptic
[01:51] <abelli> ves: something more user-friendly?
[01:51] <abelli> ves: im talking about GUIs
[01:51] <googlah> hi ya guys
[01:51] <takedown> guys, who can help me with my cedega problem?
[01:51] <geert_> hi
[01:51] <googlah> hi geert_
[01:51] <Katie^> do I need to do something to the source list?
[01:51] <Katie^> http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7gq.png
[01:52] <bryanl> abelli: have a look at qdvdauthor
[01:52] <Katie^> Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:52] <geert_> universe and multiverse enabled?
[01:52] <ves> abelli: I'm not entirely sure about that, maybe some guides over at doom9.org might help but I'm not sure if they're all windows programs mentioned.
[01:52] <TTilus> takedown: dont really know, that was my 5 cents  :)
[01:52] <googlah> Katie^, you probably need to add another respitory
[01:52] <takedown> damn
[01:52] <geert_> about that cedega problem... i really don't know
[01:53] <geert_> maybe check your logs for info
[01:53] <geert_> ?
[01:53] <bryanl> oh the flu sucks so bad..
[01:53] <Katie^> how do i do that
[01:53] <googlah> just a quick question everybody... how do i mark/select an entire text in pico or another texteditor?
[01:54] <geert_> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:54] <sdaserver> is there a way to access the terminal faster in ubuntu?
[01:54] <geert_> and remove the # before the lines with universe in them
[01:54] <takedown> what logs i need? just i see a my problem and i dont need to looks to logs...
[01:54] <googlah> Katie^, etc/apt/sources.list  and uncomment universe and multiverse.
[01:54] <takedown> what do u think? install fglrx in chroot can help to me?
[01:54] <Stork> how can i mount an .iso image without having to burn it to a dvd?
[01:55] <geert_> mostly x.org complains on a situation it can't use drm
[01:55] <takedown> Stork: mount -o loop
[01:55] <googlah> noone knows the answer on my question? 8)
[01:55] <Stork> takedown, hm? what's the loop?
[01:55] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[01:55] <Perversus> hi all
[01:55] <googlah> hi Perversus
[01:55] <googlah> what's up? :)
[01:55] <takedown> Stork: its a mount option
[01:56] <takedown> Stork: see man mount for more info
[01:56] <Stork> okay
[01:56] <geert_> takedown, it is in /var/log/x.org.... check for errors and warnings
[01:56] <Katie^> how do i uncomment them
[01:56] <Katie^> lol
[01:56] <geert_> hi Perversus
[01:56] <Stork> takedown, if the thing i was trying to mount was a game designed for windows, it probably wouldn't do anything if i just mounted it, right? i'd have to use it thriough wine?
[01:56] <Perversus> :)
[01:56] <geert_> just remove the #
[01:56] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[01:56] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[01:57] <googlah> :)
[01:57] <bryanl> the switch from kubuntu to ubuntu went well
[01:57] <bryanl> and quick
[01:57] <googlah> great
[01:57] <geert_> Now finally free of QT
[01:57] <bryanl> no... i like qt.. as a programmer, it is easier and more well thought out than gtk
[01:58] <Perversus> 1 question, I Have ubuntu but I want Kubuntu,Can you help me?
[01:58] <bryanl> i need to figure out why nspluginviewer/firefox were taking up 600MB of real memory between them this morning
[01:58] <googlah> i also wanna know how to switch to kubuntu
[01:59] <bina> Perversus: I think you just need to do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:59] <geert_> It probably is... bryanl, never tried it, but they all say it...
[01:59] <Perversus> bina thank you
[01:59] <Madeye> any deb for php5.1.1?
[01:59] <takedown> Stork: loop option can mount games images like mds,iso etc.
[01:59] <bina> Perversus, apt-cache search <package> looks for packages that you can install
[01:59] <concept10> bryanl, becuase firefox has massive mem leaks
[01:59] <Perversus> :)
[02:00] <geert_> takedown, found anything in your logs?
[02:00] <takedown> nope
[02:00] <googlah> bina, yeah, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but there is another package called kubuntu as well. what is the difference?
[02:00] <abelli> bryanl: thank you.
[02:00] <abelli> ves: thank you.
[02:00] <tafsen> Anyone here that know rox?
[02:00] <bryanl> Perversus, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will do what you want
[02:01] <bina> googlah: I'm not sure, i dont have kubuntu on its own in my lists.  Maybe it installs everything kubuntu-ish
[02:01] <apinator> hi
[02:01] <CodenameKT> tafsen: rox-filer?
[02:01] <bryanl> anyone here using gaim 2.0?
[02:02] <SweetestSavage> bryanl, sorry mine is 1.5.
[02:02] <ROBOd> guys ... i have ubuntu 5.10 ... and i got samba ...looking with ethereal i noticed my computer communicates with the Windows server of my LAN ... querying for /Trash-robod/ .... of course the windows server always replies "no such name"
[02:02] <CodenameKT> bryan1: I am using gaim on occasion
[02:02] <geert_> Wish me luck people, going dapper... let's hope that I don't need a reinstall... be back in a minute
[02:02] <ROBOd> but Linux ... continues to query .... very very often
[02:02] <tafsen> CodenameKT, YEAH
[02:02] <ROBOd> it's almost like a flood
[02:02] <CodenameKT> bryan1: some reason centericq is messed up so i gotta
[02:02] <bryanl> i use gaim all the time
[02:02] <ROBOd> how to stop it?
[02:02] <bryanl> we have a jabber server at work that everyone uses instead of talking of the phone
[02:02] <CodenameKT> tafsen: What's your question. Even tho I don't know much about it
[02:03] <apinator> I'm little bit of lost... I just installd my first linux... Could some one tell me is in ubunt some kind of RPM program? =D
[02:03] <CodenameKT> bryan1: u had a question?
[02:03] <drpatate> Hi, I can't find a repository with WMII 3 ? anyone knows one or should I install the tar.gz package ???
[02:03] <bryanl> CodenameKT, nope... just curious
[02:03] <CodenameKT> apinator: ubuntu is a flavor of linux it uses the deb package system
[02:04] <tafsen> CodenameKT, Well, Im using OpenBox in gnome, and I have turned of Nautilus drawing desktop.  Now I need rox to have icons on my desktop
[02:04] <Katie^> ALL the universe and multiverse ones?
[02:04] <CodenameKT> bryan1: oh ok. well the only reason i don't use gaim is because i like the one a transparent term running centericq looks and it has smaller footprint on mem
[02:05] <CodenameKT> tafsen: that would be the pinboard option i believe
[02:05] <tafsen> CodenameKT, yes
[02:05] <CodenameKT> !rox-filer
[02:05] <ubotu> CodenameKT: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:05] <tafsen> CodenameKT, How do i use it?
[02:05] <tafsen> !rox
[02:05] <ubotu> tafsen: Are you on ritalin?
[02:05] <CodenameKT> lol
[02:05] <CodenameKT> be nice bot
[02:05] <tafsen> haha
[02:05] <bryanl> CodenameKT, ah... i see.  all my boxes have at least 1GB of memory, and my laptop has 2GB, so i don't even think about the memory
[02:06] <CodenameKT> bryan1: well, i have a gig but i usually like to keep 700mb free
[02:06] <wdh> after installing xubuntu-desktop, the usplash image is changed to one specific to xubuntu. I would like it to be the ubuntu one.. any ideas on how to change it??
[02:06] <bryanl> CodenameKT, i wish i could do that, but its hard with eclipse and mysql running all day :)
[02:07] <CodenameKT> bryan1: understandable
[02:07] <pm> i've got one question - how to compile a new kernel so as to be able to install nvidia drivers from repositories, not using installer from www.nvidia.com?
[02:08] <CodenameKT> tafsen: I can't give u a direct answer without doing a bunch of research but it looks like there is a good doc here at rox.sourceforge.net/manual/manual/manual.html
[02:08] <tafsen> CodenameKT, Ok, I take look. Thx
[02:09] <CodenameKT> bryan1: u said u use openbox
[02:09] <bryanl> anyone here use subversion?
[02:09] <CodenameKT> tafsen: no prob sorry i couldn't be more helpful
[02:10] <bryanl> CodenameKT, no.. i'm using not using openbox.. i don't really care for the minimallist windowmanagers
[02:10] <CodenameKT> bryan1: so let me guess u use kde\
[02:10] <CodenameKT> bryan1: biggest bloat of em all
[02:10] <tafsen> CodenameKT, ;) but the url you gave didn't work
[02:10] <bryanl> CodenameKT, yep...
[02:10] <bryanl> CodenameKT, kde is cool....   fish:// is worth the bloat
[02:11] <CodenameKT> tafsen: do a search in google for rox-filer pinboard and second link
[02:11] <bryanl> i'm in gnome right now
[02:11] <CodenameKT> bryan1: gnome is still way better than kde imho
[02:11] <bryanl> CodenameKT, to each his own...
[02:11] <bryanl> i like windows too sometimes
[02:12] <CodenameKT> bryan1: affirmative. lovely how we get a choice with linux no?
[02:12] <bryanl> :)
[02:12] <CodenameKT> bryan1: I am a gamer on my off period in which i tend to hafta boot up to windows
[02:12] <CodenameKT> bryan1: stinks alot of the cracks for games arn't linux based ;o)
[02:12] <bryanl> i only game on the consoles now... xbox 360 is enough for me
[02:13] <m0wax> CodenameKT: I would ask you what it is you like about Gnome, cos I am interested.  But I feel it might start a flame war with other people in the room :)
[02:13] <bryanl> plus.. i have way too much code to right nowadays to game at all
[02:13] <pm> Did anyone of you compile kernel on Ubuntu?
[02:13] <m0wax> I'll refrain ;)
[02:13] <bryanl> i like evolution or kmail... kmail keeps on screwing up my imap mailbox
[02:13] <bryanl> er i like evolution over kmail
[02:14] <CodenameKT> m0wax: It's no real evidence anyways I just like the look feel and once again less memory than kde. It seems to run smoother and less useless aps installed
[02:14] <CodenameKT> bryan1: thunderbird?
[02:14] <bryanl> thunderbird just doesn't do it for me
[02:15] <gnomefreak> thanks for reminding me :)0
[02:15] <bryanl> its kinda cool though
[02:15] <CodenameKT> bryan1: Imma go cry now
[02:15] <CodenameKT> gnomefreak: about what eh chap?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> thunderbird i forgot to install it yesterday
[02:16] <m0wax> Ok, I want to download ubuntu onto a flash key and install it from there........is that possible?  And if so how?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> !install
[02:16] <ubotu> from memory, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:16] <gnomefreak> there are the ways to install it
[02:17] <m0wax> gnomefreak: thanks
[02:17] <loreto> i need to find sb.ko module on breezy to install an old sb sound card, but i can't find that module, is avalaible for breezy?
[02:18] <ompaul> loreto, on my breezy box this exists /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko
[02:19] <googlah> 500kb/sec from the repositories. not too bad.
[02:19] <bryanl> googlah thats what i'm ge tting
[02:19] <ompaul> googlah, 5meg hmm
[02:19] <bryanl> time to install jboss
[02:19] <CodenameKT> ompaul: 5 meg is very roughly 5000kb
[02:20] <loreto> ompaul, do i need to install an special package?
[02:20] <loreto> loreto@loreto:~$ sudo modprobe sb
[02:20] <loreto> Password:
[02:20] <loreto> FATAL: Error inserting sb (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound/oss/sb.ko): No such device
[02:20] <CodenameKT> loreto: oh the pw must be wrong what did u put again
[02:20] <bryanl> at the most with my connection, i should be able to download 750Kb/s
[02:20] <CodenameKT> :o)
[02:21] <ompaul> CodenameKT,  funny that
[02:21] <bryanl> my hosted server has a 10MB/s connection...
[02:21] <ompaul> Fetched 48.2MB in 11s (4274kB/s)
[02:22] <googlah> gdm or kdm ?!
[02:22] <googlah> just installed kubuntu-desktop.
[02:22] <ompaul> googlah, then kdm
[02:22] <googlah> had gnome before.
[02:22] <maskd> lol... i followed the xubuntu desktop guide, and im maxed out at 640x480
[02:23] <drpatate> I try to install a .tar.gz package but I need the binary "cc" in what package does it comes in ??
[02:23] <ompaul> loreto_away, it was just there when I installed and I use a not very new sb card
[02:23] <maskd> it's fun..
[02:23] <bryanl> i love java web start
[02:23] <ompaul> drpatate, before you do that what package ae you trying to install?
[02:23] <googlah> ompaul; roger... i chosed kdm.
[02:24] <googlah> thanks.
[02:24] <drpatate> ompaul: WMII latest version
[02:24] <cleo> drpatate: install build-essential
[02:24] <ompaul> drpatate, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:25] <drpatate> thanks guys, I not that noob, I thinkg
[02:25] <gnomefreak> there is no such thing as "just install" a tar :((
[02:25] <gnomefreak> i really wish there was
[02:25] <maskd> hey just wanted to ask, whats the cmd to reconfigure x.org?
[02:26] <pigor> ping
[02:26] <googlah> kubuntu-desktop is now installed. when the login-screen shows up, can i choose wether i'm gonna use gnore or kde?
[02:27] <TengkSA> How does one make a shortcut?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> googlah, yes go to sessions and choose kde
[02:27] <bpuccio> maskd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:27] <googlah> gnomefreak, roger. but i suppose you don't like kde at all? :)
[02:27] <maskd> thanks bpuccio
[02:27] <gnomefreak> i use it googlah
[02:27] <pigor> TengkSA: in terminal with "ln -s <target> <shortcutname>"
[02:28] <googlah> gnomefreak, even if you're a gnomefreak? cool :)
[02:28] <gnomefreak> googlah, there are some apps that i like better on kde than gnome
[02:28] <pigor> is there a german speaking ubuntu channel?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !gr
[02:28] <ubotu> Elate sto #ubuntu-gr gia Elliniki sizitisi
[02:29] <gnomefreak> god im hopping that german
[02:29] <Kindred> wouldn't that be greek
[02:29] <TengkSA> pigor, would it be under command
[02:29] <CodenameKT> lol
[02:29] <Kindred> you might want de
[02:29] <gnomefreak> !de
[02:29] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:29] <gnomefreak> that is it ty Kindred
[02:29] <Kindred> hehe :)
[02:30] <TengkSA> !shortcut
[02:30] <ubotu> shortcut is probably http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79560
[02:30] <pm> problem with kernel compilation? ] 
[02:30] <pigor> TengkSA: what do you mean with "under command" ?
[02:30] <pm> could anyone help me?
[02:30] <TengkSA> pigor can i talk to u in prvt please
[02:30] <maskd> ahhh, much better
[02:30] <TengkSA> pigor, i right click on desktop and click create launcher
[02:30] <TengkSA> fill in name: My Documents
[02:30] <TengkSA> Generic name: My documents
[02:31] <TengkSA> Command: ?????????
[02:31] <pigor> TengkSA: then type the name of the programm in the command field
[02:32] <TengkSA> its a directory
[02:32] <googlah> gonna make a try of kde now. see ya later guys.
[02:32] <TengkSA> pigor,  its a directory
[02:33] <welp_> when i try to do: apt-get install fluxbox, i get the following error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory), i have uncommented the universe lines in sources.list
[02:33] <welp_> how doi fix this?
[02:33] <maskd> welp_, you need to do sudo apt-get update firsy
[02:33] <welp_> *do i
[02:33] <pigor> TengkSA: ok then open nautilus, go to directory, right click directory, choose shortcut and drag new shortcut on desktop
[02:34] <TengkSA> how does one open nautilus
[02:34] <TengkSA> okay its open
[02:34] <pigor> TengkSA: now go to one diretctory above the directory you wanna shortcut
[02:35] <welp> maskd, ok, thanks
[02:35] <tafsen> Can I use desktop icons when I use OpenBOX?
[02:35] <pigor> TengkSA: then right click directory and make a shortcut
[02:35] <Techie_dude> what repository do i need to add to download sun-j2re1.5?
[02:35] <CodenameKT> tafsen: try fbdesk
[02:36] <pigor> TengkSA: the new shortcut will appear in nautilus and you can drag it with your mouse on your desktop
[02:36] <TengkSA> pigor, im sorry but i dont understand ur explanation
[02:36] <TengkSA> GO TO DIRECTORY? is that something i must click on or must i go to the directory that i wanna shortcut
[02:36] <TengkSA> pigor, ?
[02:36] <alexissoft> hi
[02:36] <tafsen> CodenameKT, ok. Because rox disabled the openbox menu
[02:37] <pigor> TengkSA: you must go to the directory you wanna shortcut
[02:37] <CodenameKT> tafsen: if u r just looking for desktop icons i think it is best to not use rox
[02:37] <TengkSA> and now how do i right click directory choose shortcut
[02:37] <TengkSA> pigor
[02:37] <pigor> TengkSA: you are there? then go one directory above
[02:37] <TengkSA> yes
[02:38] <pigor> TengkSA: and right-click on your directory you wanna shortcut
[02:38] <Kuolio> TengkSA: drag the folder to your desktop holding down your mice _midle_ button
[02:38] <TengkSA> pigor, yes
[02:38] <TengkSA> Kuolio, that was easy :P
[02:38] <TengkSA> thanks Kuolio and pigor
[02:38] <pigor> TengkSA: there you can choose "shortcut" (perhaps it calls a little bit different -- i have a german version)
[02:39] <TengkSA> pigor, it is
[02:39] <loreto_away> ompaul, instaler didn't recognize the sound card, on redhat i got sndconfig but on ubuntu it isn't
[02:40] <ompaul> loreto_away, if you did "/away some message" instead of changing your nick then you would generate a lot less traffic, when you return you just /away and it kills the away message
[02:40] <tafsen> CodenameKT, But rox took over the desktop.  And when I tried to open the icons on the desk, it used its own filebrowser
[02:40] <Techie_dude> what repository is it that has sun-j2re1.5
[02:41] <gnomefreak> the java repo
[02:41] <Linuturk> finished my ubuntu install
[02:41] <Linuturk> i just wish ndiswrapper was on the cd
[02:41] <Techie_dude> java repo?
[02:41] <Linuturk> :(
[02:41] <CodenameKT> tafsen: my poitn exactly. rox has a bunch of different stuff. it is filebrowser pic browser icon maker launch menu blah blah
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Techie_dude, most people (smart people) use the java page to get java
[02:42] <gnomefreak> !java
[02:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:43] <CodenameKT> tafsen: I believe in one app for one use
[02:43] <tafsen> CodenameKT, but I wan't to use Nautlius
[02:44] <Techie_dude> thankyou
[02:44] <Techie_dude> bye bye
[02:44] <CodenameKT> tafsen: i hear u. so instead of using rox for icons use fbdesk. fbdesk does nothing but icons
[02:44] <CodenameKT> and works well with *box or gnome
[02:44] <tafsen> CodenameKT, ok. Thx :)
[02:45] <CodenameKT> tafsen: i can't remember but doesn't nautilus have a way to do icons
[02:45] <afief> what distos will work on a 200MHz, 32 MB ram PC?
[02:46] <CodenameKT> afief: dsl linux but ur in wrong chan
[02:46] <seicherlbob> morning everybody! anybody knows about the magic file?? mine is empty but i need it for filerecovery
[02:46] <Kindred> yeah i'd probably try dsl..
[02:47] <afief> CodenameKT: Thanks, but at #Linux they are all asleep it seems. won't do it again;)
[02:47] <Malachi> Has anyone noticed problems with mplayer's audio synchronization when playing DVDs?
[02:47] <mlots> How do I disable the "is identified to services" messages?
[02:47] <tafsen> CodenameKT, Without drawing the desktop?
[02:48] <ompaul> afief, you could try xubuntu
[02:48] <orhs_> karandir
[02:49] <seicherlbob> afief: I have debian on a P2, 233 MHz, don't know the ram
[02:49] <CodenameKT> afief: np it is true xubuntu is possible
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> afief : slackware, it doesnt boot with a gui, freebsd or netbsd should also be nice for it
[02:49] <seicherlbob> afief: depends on whau you want to run on it. a fileserver? a firewall? then debian would do it.
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> ubuntu has too many things it runs by default, might slow the system down
[02:49] <lsuactiafner> would make a nice firewall
[02:50] <gnomefreak> seicherlbob, your running ubuntu my guess is that you have atleast 128mb ram
[02:50] <lsuactiafner> i run slackware on a p166 with 42mb of broken ram as a firewall
[02:50] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: morning my friend.On my fileserver, i got debian.
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh and good moring
[02:50] <gnomefreak> morning
[02:51] <afief> seicherlbob: small games, some word processor(i'm not piky)
[02:51] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: still not finished with the recover stuff.... need a magic file (/etc/magic) but mine is empty
[02:52] <neymac_> did anybody try fvwm-crystal-3.0 and get it working?
[02:52] <seicherlbob> afief: you could give it a try. I don't know how good the xserver will run on that machine. but aslong as you don't use any features
[02:53] <Diabloa69> sup guys
[02:53] <phanter> Hey how will the next ubuntu version be named?
[02:53] <Diabloa69> :)
[02:54] <mwe> phanter: dapper
[02:54] <mwe> phanter: 6.04
[02:54] <Diabloa69> has anybody gotten gyach to work with webcam on ubuntu
[02:54] <phanter> could I use dapper for testing already?
[02:55] <Diabloa69> phanter: yes
[02:55] <mwe> phanter: If you don't mind some things being broken
[02:55] <Diabloa69> phanter: I have a image of it if you want it
[02:55] <mwe> phanter: Also you should know how to fix your own problems
[02:55] <phanter> I wan tit yes, but is there not some way that I can just change the depositories?
[02:56] <imc_> g'Day everyone. Got breezy on a box with a sony memorystick reader which worked under hoary and not now. Put card in and nothing in /var/log/messages or lspci. Anyone?
[02:56] <Seveas> !dapper
[02:56] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[02:56] <ubuntu> do somebody know if i can download skype and run it with ubuntu Live-Cd?
[02:56] <joshisscifi> Hey everybody!
[02:56] <Seveas> !skype
[02:56] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[02:56] <Diabloa69> sup josh
[02:56] <joshisscifi> trying to get this stupid wireless working properly
[02:56] <mwe> phanter: sudo sed -i 's/breezy/dapper/g' /etc/apt/sources.list has worked for people with varied success
[02:56] <joshisscifi> I've got the ndiswrapper loaded, and shows that the hardware is present
[02:56] <Diabloa69> can't help you there man :(
[02:56] <joshisscifi> but it won't show up
[02:56] <Diabloa69> you know man
[02:57] <Diabloa69> in my own personal experience of dealing with that type of bullshit
[02:57] <Diabloa69> 99% of the time I had to reboot my cable modem
[02:57] <Diabloa69> :))
[02:57] <joshisscifi> lol
[02:57] <Diabloa69> might wanna try that
[02:57] <mwe> phanter: if you intend doing anything serious on the machine don't use dapper
[02:57] <phanter> Diabloa69, oke, maybe I will go for your image. where can I find it?
[02:57] <joshisscifi> well, when I use ifconfig or even the KWifiManager, neither show the wireless existing
[02:57] <Diabloa69> I will copy it from my cd
[02:57] <Diabloa69> one sec
[02:57] <Diabloa69> you want cd or dvd?
[02:57] <phanter> mwe, I just want to look into the future... I will keep my breezy running... for sure
[02:58] <mwe> joshisscifi: Maybe it's not configured
[02:58] <phanter> Diabloa69, cd please
[02:58] <joshisscifi> mwe, recommendation?
[02:58] <Diabloa69> ok one min man
[02:58] <mwe> phanter: great. in that case go ahead
[02:58] <mwe> joshisscifi: Not enough information
[02:58] <joshisscifi> school starts back monday, so I have time to play around and get it working
[02:58] <imc_> ANyone help on the memorystick problem?
[02:59] <joshisscifi> mwe, I used ndiswrapper -i with the bcmwl5.inf file, then ndiswrapper -m to load, then ndiswrapper -l shows that the file is there and hardware present
[02:59] <gnomefreak> imc_, what about memory stick?
[02:59] <joshisscifi> I used the wrong file the first time, so its showing bcmwl5a.inf as well as bcmwl5.inf, problem there?
[02:59] <joshisscifi> but only the bcmwl5.inf file shows the hardware present msg beside it
[02:59] <imc_> hi gnomefreak, got a Memory stick reader which worked under hoary but not under breezy; /var/log/messages and lspci shows nothing
[03:00] <mwe> joshisscifi: yes. have you checked on the ndiswrapper page that the driver version you're using is supposed to work with ndiswrapper
[03:00] <slarts> Hi there ... what do I change to persist an ifconfig change?
[03:00] <Diabloa69> give me a few phanter..I have to install k3b apparently
[03:00] <slarts> in FC it's in /etc/sysconfig/networking-scripts/ ... where is it in Ubuntu?
[03:00] <joshisscifi> mwe, will check now
[03:00] <phanter> Diabloa69, no hurries for me... hahaha, holidays here ;-)
[03:00] <mwe> joshisscifi: yeah. lots of drivers break with ndiswrapper so ...
[03:01] <Diabloa69> lol k
[03:01] <joshisscifi> mwe, I had it working with ubuntu... I'm on kubuntu now
[03:01] <mwe> joshisscifi: oh
[03:01] <mwe> joshisscifi: that shouldn't change your network setup
[03:01] <Diabloa69> man I am glad I switched from fbsd
[03:01] <imc_> sure would like the memory stick to work!
[03:01] <mwe> joshisscifi: did you reinstall?
[03:01] <Diabloa69> now I don't have to mount my damn drive everytime
[03:02] <slarts> SPeaking of network setup, what file do I change to persist an IP address? :>
[03:02] <joshisscifi> oh yeah, long ago lol
[03:02] <Diabloa69> hehe I wonder if I can hack my psp on here
[03:02] <Diabloa69> :D
[03:02] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok. and you had ndiswrapper working with the driver you're trying to use now?
[03:02] <Dasnipa`> yes Diabloa69: then you will be a '1337 h4x0r'
[03:02] <imc_> gnomefreak, any ideas?
[03:02] <Diabloa69> lol you mean cracker :P
[03:02] <Diabloa69> I need to get my homebrew back on it
[03:03] <joshisscifi> mwe, from ndiswrapper wiki: Other: Use bcmwl5.inf. Worked out of the box on Fedora Core 4, kernel 2.6.11.
[03:03] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok
[03:03] <Diabloa69> I was a moron and upgraded to 2.0 to play the new gta lcs
[03:03] <joshisscifi> mwe, how do I remove the first entry?
[03:03] <joshisscifi> mwe, since I have both the inf files listed, I'm thinking that COULD be the problem...
[03:04] <mwe> joshisscifi: man ndiswrapper. look for uninstall
[03:04] <joshisscifi> mwe, k
[03:04] <cvt|gnuyear> what are the chances someone is logging my keystrokes?
[03:04] <joshisscifi> haha that was easy
[03:04] <joshisscifi> -e does it
[03:04] <mwe> joshisscifi: I think it's ndiswrapper -r, but it's been a while so I'm not sure
[03:04] <davidhouse> hi, i'm looking to install ubuntu and i could do with some device
[03:04] <davidhouse> *advice
[03:04] <tafsen> Can someone help me with fbdesk?
[03:05] <Diabloa69> davidhouse: my advice is, don't have a ati radion 9250 pci card
[03:05] <davidhouse> i have a 60GB hard disk in my laptop and already have winxp and suse installed on it.
[03:05] <mwe> joshisscifi: good
[03:05] <sdaserver> help: how does one log in to webmin?
[03:05] <davidhouse> Diabloa69: ;)
[03:05] <mwe> joshisscifi: now does ifconfig show your wireless interface?
[03:05] <joshisscifi> mwe, nope
[03:05] <joshisscifi> eth0 and lo only
[03:05] <s1gnAl> I am getting ready to install Ubuntu on another box(Breezy 5.10 install CD) and I don't have a need for X on that box, if I select server at boottime will that prevent that?
[03:05] <mwe> joshisscifi: ifconfig -a?
[03:05] <davidhouse> will there be room for ubuntu, or should i back everything up and delete my suse partition?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> my advice is to lose suse :)) but thats only because im partial to ubuntu :)
[03:05] <joshisscifi> mwe, no
[03:06] <joshisscifi> eth0, lo, sit0
[03:06] <Diabloa69> davidhouse: I kept on getting this lame ass hotplug error, It was fixed after I took out my graphic card
[03:06] <mwe> joshisscifi: what's dmesg|grep -i ndis say?
[03:06] <sdaserver> help: how does one log in to webmin?
[03:06] <slarts> ok, so how do I persist an IP address change across reboots?
[03:06] <mwe> joshisscifi: what's sit0?
[03:06] <joshisscifi> mwe, nothing at all
[03:06] <davidhouse> gnomefreak, i don't think i'll be using it, i'd just like to keep it around in case i need something i haven't backed up
[03:06] <joshisscifi> mwe, it says: sit0 Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
[03:06] <mwe> joshisscifi: and the module is loaded? lsmod|grep ndis
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Diabloa69, dont feel bad i have 2 ati cards one radeon and one that is just a rage pro and neither get 3d both being 3d cards :(
[03:07] <joshisscifi> mwe, its not showing up in lsmod
[03:07] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok. sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:07] <joshisscifi> but if I type ndiswrapper -l, it hows up
[03:07] <joshisscifi> mwe, done
[03:07] <tafsen> Can someone help me with fbdesk?
[03:07] <s1gnAl> I am getting ready to install Ubuntu on another box(Breezy 5.10 install CD) and I don't have a need for X on that box, if I select server at boottime will that prevent that?
[03:08] <mwe> joshisscifi: ndiswrapper -l shows what drivers are installed, not if the module is loaded. does it show in lsmod now?
[03:08] <joshisscifi> mwe, yes it does
[03:08] <mwe> joshisscifi: good
[03:08] <gnomefreak> ati and nvidia where are they made?
[03:08] <mwe> joshisscifi: try ifconfig -a now again
[03:08] <joshisscifi> mwe, shows ndiswrapper and usbcore lol
[03:08] <joshisscifi> mwe, nope
[03:09] <mwe> joshisscifi: and dmesg|grep -i ndis ?
[03:09] <grundo> hwo i can join different servers?
[03:09] <mwe> grundo: /server foobar
[03:09] <grundo> ok
[03:09] <mwe> grundo: or /connect
[03:09] <joshisscifi> [4295822.220000]  ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_add_one_pci_dev:188): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C0000001)
[03:09] <mwe> joshisscifi: that's bad
[03:10] <mwe> joshisscifi: probably using an incompatible driver
[03:10] <joshisscifi> hmm
[03:10] <Diabloa69> hey would anybody happen to have a copy of dvddecrypter laying aroudn?
[03:10] <Diabloa69> around*
[03:10] <mwe> joshisscifi: check ndiswrapper.sf.net and click your way to the compatibility list that shows what driver should be used for your card
[03:11] <s1gnAl> windows version?
[03:11] <Diabloa69> yeah
[03:11] <s1gnAl> sure I have one
[03:11] <Diabloa69> could you send it to me
[03:11] <mwe> joshisscifi: that's my advice
[03:11] <Diabloa69> I googled for it and no one has it
[03:11] <slarts> ok, so how do I persist an IP address change across reboots?
[03:11] <joshisscifi> mwe, I'm using the same one thats listed on there
[03:11] <s1gnAl> you bet, do you use AIM or Yahoo IM?
[03:11] <Diabloa69> either or
[03:11] <mwe> joshisscifi: the same version?
[03:11] <Diabloa69> aim=Diablo6966669
[03:11] <joshisscifi> mwe yup
[03:11] <Diabloa69> yahoo=skullzsoldier1221
[03:11] <s1gnAl> ok Ill get on Yahoo, brt
[03:12] <Diabloa69> k
[03:12] <mwe> joshisscifi: then I don't know why it wont work. maybe try rebooting, though I doubt it will help
[03:12] <joshisscifi> mwe, well, might as well give it a shot lol
[03:12] <joshisscifi> mwe, dells do odd things
[03:12] <mwe> joshisscifi: what card is it?
[03:12] <joshisscifi> mwe 1470
[03:13] <grundo> eny good wireless internet cards for laptop?
[03:13] <mwe> grundo: yeah prism based ones
[03:13] <grundo> prism?
[03:13] <mwe> grundo: yes
[03:13] <grundo> what's that?
[03:14] <DrAdmin38789> hi all !
[03:14] <mwe> grundo: a chip
[03:14] <pigor> netgea
[03:14] <grundo> ok
[03:14] <pigor> netgear
[03:14] <mwe> grundo: prism2
[03:14] <joshisscifi> brb
[03:14] <joshisscifi> gonna try the reboot
[03:14] <mwe> joshisscifi: ok
[03:14] <cvt|gnuyear> screen looks fuzzy and unfocused. how do fix?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <grundo> reboot or clean your monitor
[03:14] <Myrtti> check your refresh rate
[03:14] <slarts> Am I going to have to whack a monitor and keyboard on this thing just to change the IP address through Gnome?
[03:15] <grundo> :)
[03:15] <mwe> grundo: yeah, cleaning the monitor sounds like good advice :)
[03:15] <grundo> i bump windows yesterday and sawp ubuntu! this is Grt!!!
[03:16] <gnomefreak> home path is /username/home?
[03:16] <mwe> grundo: yeah
[03:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: no
[03:16] <gnomefreak> /home/username/<
[03:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: yes
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ty
[03:16] <tafsen> Is there an Linux gaming channel or something? Some place that can help me installing wow on Ubuntu?
[03:17] <grundo> i installed libdvdcss2 and it didn't work for totem
[03:17] <grundo> what i can do?
[03:17] <mwe> grundo: I don't know. it works with kaffeine
[03:17] <grundo> yeah
[03:18] <grundo> it sure do.  .
[03:18] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Pygi, pong
[03:18] <concept10> Anyone run ubuntu on PPC?  How do it fare?
[03:18] <Pygi> freaky: I need to talk  to you about somethin'
[03:18] <cvt|gnuyear> i'm affraid i'm going to make some change on not be able to see the screen anymore
[03:18] <grundo> :-)
[03:18] <mwe> grundo: programs not using codecs and libs is a general problem I recon
[03:18] <gnomefreak> Pygi, give me a few mins to finsih this and ill be free for a bit
[03:18] <Pygi> freaky: k, I'l wait
[03:19] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:19] <grundo> quite true mwe
[03:19] <mwe> grundo: for example mplayer can play all my movies but other players can't
[03:19] <seicherlbob> gnomefreak: WOHOOO! Filerecovery is running! lets see ...
[03:19] <mwe> grundo: well some can
[03:19] <grundo> :)
[03:20] <DrAdmin38789> may i install packahes from debain to ubuntu ?
[03:20] <mwe> grundo: it's because they don't do things a common way
[03:20] <Myrtti> DrAdmin38789: it's not encouraged
[03:20] <gimmulf_> !ssh
[03:20] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[03:20] <Diabloa69> DrAdmin38789: yes do "sudo dpgk -i pkg.deb
[03:20] <Myrtti> in many cases it might break up the system
[03:20] <grundo> this one day i was removing trojan.zlob from windows and i release that is time to change to linux
[03:21] <Myrtti> but still, yes you can
[03:21] <mwe> what's extra about ssh?
[03:21] <phanter> Diabloa69, I found the nightly build... I will try it from there. Thanks anyway :-)
[03:22] <grundo> all my "windows" friends tell my that linux like ubuntu is for pro users. . .
[03:22] <mwe> DrAdmin38789: it can break your system
[03:22] <sabzil> hi men
[03:22] <Myrtti> linux like ubuntu? ha
[03:22] <Myrtti> linux like slackware is for pros
[03:22] <grundo> :)
[03:22] <Pygi> Myrtti: heh, actually Slackware can also be used by beginners :P
[03:22] <tafsen> Is there an Linux gaming channel or something? Some place that can help me installing wow on Ubuntu?
[03:23] <Myrtti> linux like ubuntu is for linux noobs and those who don't want to waste their time on excess tweaking
[03:23] <butcherbird> tafsen: maybe check ubuntuforums.org
[03:23] <Myrtti> Pygi: true, but the process of getting it to work might be a great turnoff
[03:23] <Pygi> Myrtti: I started with Slackware 2.x and continued, so I guess I learned everything on slackware :)
[03:23] <Dasnipa`> Myrtti, slackware isnt anything hard... try gentoo lol
[03:23] <slarts> I found it, thanks for everyone's help
[03:23] <Pygi> Dasnipa: gentoo is not hard, it's just a pain to install it :P
[03:23] <Myrtti> was it gentoo, can't remember
[03:23] <Myrtti> anyway
[03:24] <DrAdmin38789> mwe why ? ubuntu based on debian or not ?
[03:24] <grundo> Free BS is for pro users. . .
[03:24] <mwe> Dasnipa`: gentoo is easy. the install is just tedious but it's a monkey see  monkey do job
[03:24] <grundo> what about Suse?
[03:24] <Myrtti> I'm off to play Stepmania
[03:24] <mwe> DrAdmin38789: based on, but different
[03:24] <Dasnipa`> mwe i know after the install its very nice... ive performed 4-5 installs of it
[03:24] <Pygi> grundo: yes, but once you get familiar with FreeBSD then you are almost familiar with all unix & Linux systems :)
[03:24] <Pygi> grundo: huh, not the Suse thingy :/
[03:25] <mwe> Dasnipa`: I got tired of it always compiling stuff
[03:25] <grundo> :)
[03:25] <jw> does anyone know a graphical frontend to subversion?
[03:25] <mwe> Dasnipa`: you get a super fast system but it's always crawling because you're compiling all the time
[03:25] <jw> like Cervisia for CVS?
[03:25] <Pygi> jw: rapidsvn
[03:25] <Dasnipa`> compiling everything is rediculasly optimized though
[03:25] <grundo> can i run Guild Wars in linux?
[03:25] <Pygi> grundo: does it use OpenGL>
[03:25] <Pygi> ?
[03:26] <grundo> duno ..
[03:26] <grundo> but if it use
[03:26] <mwe> grundo: what's that?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> oh and btw slackware is easy compared to gentoo
[03:26] <Pygi> mwe: game
[03:26] <grundo> Guild Wars?
[03:26] <grundo> yeap
[03:26] <DrAdmin38789> mwe i want install Ubuntu 5.10 on my notebook - iRu Stilo1415Combo ! what u known problem ?
[03:26] <irvin> grundo, yes you can
[03:26] <fli7e> guild wars is a lot like world of warcraft
[03:26] <mwe> grundo: you can run like 1 out of 1000 windows games on linux
[03:26] <grundo> cool!!
[03:26] <Pygi> gnomefreaky: huh, no, gentoo  is REALLY REALLY EASY, just the INSTALL is a bit over ...huh...bad :P
[03:27] <gnomefreak> i found gentoo harder than slack
[03:27] <cvt|gnuyear> i don't know what i'm doing in configuring xserver, should i stop?
[03:27] <Pygi> gnomefreak: huh, I just saw that gentoo install is not good, and since I use slackware since 2.0 I don't intend to get out of it :P
[03:27] <grundo> has enyone try out kubuntu?
[03:27] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think the only hard thing in gentoo is the installation. and it's not really hard. just tedious
[03:28] <irvin> grundo, i have back in hoary
[03:28] <gnomefreak> grundo, kubuntu=ubuntu/kde
[03:28] <Pygi> mwe: agreed
[03:28] <Pygi> mwe: takes too long for no reason :P
[03:28] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, are any changes i do in xserver easy to undo?
[03:28] <schmourtz> hello
[03:28] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, any changes you do can be undone by runnign the commmand and going through it again
[03:29] <mwe> Pygi: right. you get a lightning fast system though. too bad it's always crawling because you're compiling all the time
[03:29] <grundo> it's that true that linux os are more security that windows?
[03:29] <gnomefreak> grundo, much more
[03:29] <cvt|gnuyear> gnomefreak, but what if i can't see the screen anymore? seriously
[03:29] <Pygi> mwe: ah, yes :/
[03:29] <grundo> Did you heard the new security hole in windows
[03:29] <grundo> wmf hole
[03:29] <mwe> yeah
[03:29] <Pygi> mwe: but still, after 9 years of Slackware.... :)
[03:29] <grundo> hah windows!!!
[03:30] <grundo> :P
[03:30] <gnomefreak> cvt|gnuyear, runnign sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you should beable to pull up and see if not than i dont know
[03:30] <mwe> grundo: they posted a fix on windows update though
[03:30] <ubuntu> hello. i am a newbie. i have downloaded skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb. how do i install it?
[03:30] <grundo> yeah . .
[03:30] <gnomefreak> !skype
[03:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:30] <Pygi> ubuntu: sudo dpkg -i  pack.deb
[03:30] <J3ff> got some couple of invites for newsvine. if anyone cares just for the heck...
[03:30] <grundo> they still reveal hwo unsecurity windows is..
[03:31] <gnomefreak> what is newsvine?
[03:31] <mase> how do i upgrade to kde 3.5 ?
[03:31] <mwe> grundo: but that's old news
[03:31] <Stork>  how can i display my system specs with xchat?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> mase use the kde repo on easysource
[03:31] <grundo> old?, it was yesterday's news
[03:31] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[03:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:31] <DanglyBits> is there a 64bit version of mplayer available for dapper? or breezy?
[03:31] <mwe> grundo: I mean windows being insecure is old news
[03:31] <grundo> :)
[03:31] <grundo> true it has allways been..
[03:32] <grundo> since the windows 3x
[03:32] <gnomefreak> DanglyBits, neither i dont think
[03:32] <Stork> anyone?
[03:32] <mwe> grundo: one basic design flaw is everone logging on as super user by default all the time
[03:32] <mwe> grundo: and even without a password on most installations
[03:32] <takedown> Stork: use sysinfo script ;)
[03:33] <Stork> takedown, where can i get that?
[03:33] <knubbe> J3ff: id like one if you dont mind.
[03:33] <grundo> that sounds bad. .
[03:33] <grundo> mwe
[03:33] <DrAdmin38789> mwe Thnx ! i found site http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ :)
[03:33] <mwe> DrAdmin38789: what?
[03:33] <takedown> Stork: visit xchat.org and use search
[03:34] <Stork> okay
[03:34] <grundo> eny good IDE for c/c++ devolpment?
[03:34] <khetan> .
[03:34] <mwe> grundo: define good
[03:34] <Pygi> grudo: use VI :))))
[03:34] <grundo> ;)
[03:34] <davidhouse> kdevelop, eclipse
[03:34] <Pygi> grudo: VI is the best IDE ever and forever :)
[03:34] <mwe> grundo: anjuta, kdevelop, eclupse
[03:34] <grundo> ok
[03:35] <grundo> what about Borland?
[03:35] <grundo> ah!
[03:35] <grundo> sory..
[03:35] <mwe> grundo: oh and if you like something simple, xwpe
[03:35] <Pygi> why nobody suggested Vi :(((
[03:35] <grundo> :)
[03:35] <mwe> Pygi: vi? do you mean vim or plain vi?
[03:35] <mase> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_packages_kde35_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:35] <mase> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:35] <mase> whats that about?
[03:35] <Pygi> mwe: plain vi is enough :)
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: I think it sucks. I'd rather use ed then
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: :)
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: vim rocks though
[03:36] <Pygi> mwe: ed???
[03:36] <ubuntu-FrK> vi..
[03:36] <Pygi> mwe: I don't know, I use vi for all my development :/
[03:36] <ubuntu-FrK> cya all!
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: ok. I use vim
[03:36] <ubuntu-FrK> diner time. .
[03:36] <ves> Anyone know how to get anti-aliased fonts working in rxvt-unicode?
[03:36] <mwe> Pygi: for most of it at least
[03:36] <Pygi> mwe: yup, vim is good as well
[03:37] <mwe> Pygi: I can't live without syntax hilighting and auto indeting and stuff like that
[03:37] <Pygi> mwe: ah, well :P
[03:38] <Pygi> mwe: what languages are you developing anyway?
[03:38] <mwe> Pygi: don't you know ed? the oldest unix editor
[03:38] <Pygi> mwe: not actually, never used it :/
[03:39] <Raskall> agh.. need help. I have two completely empty drives. I want to merge these (with lvm) so that I can have one filesystem on them. How do I do that
[03:39] <mwe> Pygi: ok. try it just type ed. then figure out how to quit :)
[03:39] <Katie^> how do i  you'll need to set your
[03:39] <Katie^> *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point
[03:39] <Katie^> *** to the installed location ?
[03:39] <gnomefreak> there is an app in synaptic that lets you add hightlighting into most editord
[03:39] <Pygi> mwe: I got out :)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> s*
[03:39] <Pygi> mwe: meaning: quited :P
[03:39] <Pygi> I knew about that, just couldn't remember the name :P
[03:40] <Malachi> How can I fix this error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[03:40] <Malachi> I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10...
[03:40] <mwe> Pygi: great. you already a pro. quick learner :)
[03:40] <Stork> how do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file
[03:40] <Pygi> mwe: heh, I've been using slack since 2.x :P I couldn't have lived since then until now if I haven't learned a few things :P
[03:41] <mwe> Pygi: well you're asking what languages I program in. python perl c c++ mainly. I haven't done anything major though
[03:41] <Pygi> mwe: me doesn't like perl :/
[03:41] <Stork> how do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file
[03:42] <Pygi> mwe: but I also do C/C++ and python .... I do development using mono framework (C#) as well :P
[03:42] <mwe> Pygi: I have made small programs and done some bug fixing other peoples code
[03:42] <Malachi> How can I fix this "error: configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" ?
[03:42] <Malachi> Whatdo I need?
[03:42] <mwe> Pygi: ok
[03:42] <Pygi> mwe: ah, well :) I am currently doing several things :P
[03:43] <Stork> how do i install an xchat script? i have the .pl file
[03:44] <Pygi> !patience
[03:44] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[03:44] <Stork> sorry
[03:44] <TheAsp> Stork, drop it in ~/.xchat
[03:45] <Stork> oh ok
[03:45] <rowanjl> Hey, I'm trying to work out what package includes the Apache2 APXS, I've searched and all I can find is the package for Apache1
[03:45] <rowanjl> does anyone know? I'm trying to build a custom module
[03:45] <mwe> TheAsp: it's not .xchat2 ?
[03:46] <gnomefreak> lamp?
[03:46] <mwe> !lamp
[03:46] <ubotu> [lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:46] <TheAsp> mwe: well, ok, .xchat2 :)
[03:46] <rowanjl> gnomefreak, you talking to me?
[03:46] <Pygi> mwe: wann  do some development? :)
[03:46] <netstar> What's the best way to install firefox 1.5 on ubuntu? is automatix any good? it sounds dodgy
[03:47] <gnomefreak> rowanjl, yes
[03:47] <J3ff> tried automatix, works great.
[03:47] <apokryphos> !automatix
[03:47] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[03:47] <ubotu> automatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:47] <dfgas> gnomefreak: you know anything about apache?
[03:47] <gnomefreak> dfgas, nope :)
[03:47] <netstar> apokryphos, what do you suggest?
[03:47] <cvt|gnuyear> is there a place where i can check my video memory size?
[03:47] <J3ff> ubotu: like what?
[03:47] <ubotu> J3ff: I don't know
[03:47] <apokryphos> netstar: /msg ubotu easyubuntu
[03:47] <J3ff> ubotu: right
[03:47] <ubotu> J3ff: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:47] <rowanjl> gnomefreak, well, good try but no :P
[03:48] <apokryphos> J3ff: ubotu is a bot :)
[03:48] <dfgas> anyone know why apache won't connect to mysql, all the things are installed for php and mysql
[03:48] <gnomefreak> all i knew lamp had apache
[03:48] <J3ff> apokryphos: a stupid bot
[03:48] <rowanjl> APXS isn't apache, its the "Apache extension tool"
[03:48] <J3ff> im new here, so why would a bot defame a good program?
[03:48] <J3ff> that's just plain stupid.
[03:48] <apokryphos> J3ff: nope, not stupid.
[03:48] <mwe> Pygi: development, on what?
[03:49] <Pygi> mwe: well, the projects :)
[03:49] <J3ff> so automatix is really banned in here?
[03:49] <J3ff> like ive never read any bad reviews about it
[03:49] <Pygi> j3ff: yes :)
[03:49] <J3ff> it's even recommended at times
[03:49] <mwe> Pygi: what projects?
[03:49] <Pygi> mwe: you can choose out of 3 :) Cromath, Fama IM or Woot Newsreader
[03:49] <J3ff> Pygi: from what grounds?
[03:50] <Pygi> j3ff: well, it has issues :P
[03:50] <J3ff> linkage for better explanation why shouldn't I use automatix?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> J3ff, you like it that is fine but we wont tell people to use it because it can hurt the security
[03:50] <Pygi> well, use it if you really want, just don't cry when it breakes somethin'
[03:50] <ubuntu> well, I downloaded an ubuntu 5.10 vmware image from cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware and I was just wondering if anyone would know what the password is so I can update and add programs
[03:50] <mwe> !automatix
[03:50] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:50] <J3ff> Well, i used it just to install FF 1.5
[03:50] <irvin> ubuntu, try ubuntu
[03:51] <Katie^> ok
[03:51] <ubuntu> will try it right now :)
[03:51] <Katie^> so i have now got Xine up and running, I tried to open my file
[03:51] <Katie^> but it doenst work
[03:51] <J3ff> I just find it irrational to hate a thing when I dont know why should I hate it int he first place
[03:51] <apokryphos> J3ff: because you've seen it recommended it wouldn't really make it ok. automatix has produced -- and can potentially produce -- quite a few problems
[03:51] <J3ff> Im new here. I want to learn and I think it's okay to know why such programs are dangerous.
[03:51] <Pygi> mwe: Cromath - math engine much like Mathematica and Matlab --- Fama IM - can't be compared to anythin :) ----- Woot newsreader --- well, the newsreader :)
[03:51] <stoneage> just use the official mozilla.org binaries or compile it yourself!!
[03:51] <ubuntu> irvin, it worked, thank you!
[03:51] <Pygi> apokryphos: agreed
[03:51] <irvin> ubuntu, np
[03:51] <mwe> J3ff: did you read what ubotu said?
[03:52] <J3ff> Yeah, like it explained everything duh.
[03:52] <BigKahuna> anybody have experience running ubuntu on a box with only 32 MB of ram? How is the performance?
[03:52] <J3ff> You guys actually know why?
[03:52] <mwe> Pygi: ok. I think I'm a little too busy at the univerity ATM
[03:52] <gnomefreak> BigKahuna, not good
[03:52] <apokryphos> J3ff: for example, it (i) creates a root user (not an ubuntu recommendation), (ii) modifies your sources.list, (iii) uses --force-yes options with apt, and has been known to overwrite some main system files.
[03:52] <J3ff> any single html page that explains THE WHY?
[03:52] <Katie^> argh
[03:52] <Pygi> j3ff: well it causes security issues :/
[03:52] <gnomefreak> 32mb ram isnt enough
[03:53] <J3ff> Pygi: wow, that's comforting
[03:53] <J3ff> ah well
[03:53] <apokryphos> J3ff: that's why easubuntu has been set up.
[03:53] <J3ff> Im not a blind follower
[03:53] <J3ff> I'll search on it
[03:53] <stoneage> my xorg even eats ~130 mb ram :)
[03:53] <apokryphos> *easyubuntu
[03:53] <Pygi> j3ff: well, don't use it :P
[03:53] <BigKahuna> gnomefreak, youve tried it?
[03:53] <apokryphos> J3ff: I just told you why.
[03:53] <Pygi> !easyubuntu
[03:53] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[03:53] <gnomefreak> BigKahuna, ive seen people try it
[03:53] <J3ff> I know apokryphos. that's fair enough
[03:53] <J3ff> I'll do more reading thanks
[03:53] <irvin> J3ff, lookie here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/CC_2005-12-06
[03:54] <gnomefreak> i wanna say 128mb is least ram to use for graphical
[03:54] <BigKahuna> gnomefreak, I dont want to do anything fancy, just run a slideshow of photos, thats it.
[03:54] <J3ff> thx irvin, ill check sure that. :)
[03:54] <gnomefreak> slideshows=graphics
[03:55] <mwe> the root user is already created on any ubuntu installation
[03:55] <Madeye> any idea how to enable CTRL-V on terminal ?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> BigKahuna, you can try it but i dont think it will work if it runs at all it will be very very slow and prolly freeze up on you if you open an app
[03:55] <apokryphos> mwe: but it's disabled
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: no
[03:55] <apokryphos> mwe: yes
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: it just doesn't have a password
[03:55] <gnomefreak> im not ever sure 32mb ram is ok for damn small linux :(
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: try sudo -i
[03:55] <BigKahuna> ok. maybe Ill stick with Win98 then.
[03:55] <gnomefreak> even*
[03:55] <mwe> apokryphos: and you become root
[03:56] <davro> Im trying to add a drive containg a windows 2000 install, to the grub boot loader what would be the best way todo this ?
[03:56] <gnomefreak> mwe, will ubuntu graphical run on 32mb ram? im thinking no
[03:56] <mwe> apokryphos: a linux system without a root user would not work
[03:56] <netstar> WHat's the best way to install Firefox 1.5 on ubuntu?
[03:56] <ubuntu_> hi can someone help me with ubuntu someone said theres a program called Gpartition i cant find it
[03:56] <Katie^> someone help me
[03:56] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[03:56] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:56] <mwe> gnomefreak: I don't think so either
[03:56] <Katie^> pleassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[03:56] <Pygi> netstar: compile it
[03:56] <gnomefreak> firefox 1.5
[03:57] <Diabloa69> bbl all
[03:57] <gnomefreak> !firefox 1.5
[03:57] <ubotu> gnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:57] <Diabloa69> peace
[03:57] <netstar> !firefox
[03:57] <gnomefreak> ok whos been changing ubotu :(
[03:57] <gnomefreak> oh nm it ran :(
[03:57] <Stork> how do i restart from the command line?
[03:57] <ubuntu_> anyone know were i can download Gpartion or find it on ubuntu
[03:57] <netstar> !firefox1.5
[03:57] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:58] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gpart?
[03:58] <Katie^> How can I play .mkv file on Xine?
[03:58] <apokryphos> mwe: surprise surprise, (can't find t he link), but (i) the encryption used for the scrambling of the root pass is the definition of it being "disabled"
[03:58] <apokryphos> mwe: sudo -i is *NOT* the same as a root user.
[03:58] <irvin> ubuntu_, sudo apt-get install gparted
[03:58] <apokryphos> mwe: see man sudo
[03:58] <mwe> apokryphos: it's not my definition. several processes run as the root user
[03:58] <grundo> hi all!
[03:59] <apokryphos> mwe: that's great; considering you're not the one making the encryption, we shouldn't care less for your definition. Personally I take theirs.
[03:59] <Katie^> How can I play .mkv file on Xine?
[03:59] <Katie^> How can I play .mkv file on Xine?
[03:59] <mwe> apokryphos: so I don't see how root is disabled other than not letting you login as root
[03:59] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, sudo -i isnt the same but you can do same things with sudo -i as you can su
[03:59] <apokryphos> Katie^: please stop being annoying
[03:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Katie^ about restricted
[03:59] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: no, not all the same things; the environment is totally different.
[03:59] <rowanjl> so, does anyone here know anything about the Apache2 packages?
[04:00] <apokryphos> mwe: because the encryption defines that scrambling as it being "disabled"
[04:00] <tafsen> If want to find out what command a shortcut on the gnome menu executes, how do I do that? :P
[04:00] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, but anything you have to do as "root" in ubuntu sudo -i is good and will do it
[04:00] <netstar> tafsen, /usr/share/applications
[04:00] <Katie^> apokryphos, stop ignoring me then.
[04:00] <e_machinist> Is Firefox 1.5 not available in the breezy repositories yet?
[04:00] <Yoni> Hello
[04:00] <grundo> hi
[04:00] <gnomefreak> Katie^,  ask once and someone will answer you if they know
[04:00] <gnomefreak> read this
[04:01] <gnomefreak> !anyone
[04:01] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[04:01] <mwe> apokryphos: whatever. if not letting you login as root though you can become root and the system in all other ways has the root account, then yes it's disabled. I think it's a bad definition though
[04:01] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: no, not true at all. sudo -i is not the recommended method for running GUI apps under root, for example.
[04:01] <Kindred> e_machinist, no it wont be..
[04:01] <Yoni> In the Konsole, how can I see some service ( for example the ssh service ) status? -- the command "service sshd status" isn't working for me
[04:01] <grundo> lol
[04:01] <grundo> :)
[04:01] <apokryphos> Katie^: no. If someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[04:01] <e_machinist> Kindred: gonna be a dapper release?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, that would be gksudo
[04:01] <apokryphos> Katie^: spamming gets annoying, very fast.
[04:01] <Pygi> well, gui apps should be run under gksudo or kdesu
[04:01] <Pygi> !patience
[04:01] <grundo> we just dont know katie
[04:01] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:01] <ubuntu> how is ubuntu able to afford their bandwidth being a free distribution? I'm just wondering as I'm getting 40MB of updates at nearly 200KB/s...
[04:01] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: yes, or kdesu.
[04:01] <Pygi> !patience
[04:01] <Kindred> e_machinist: yep
[04:01] <gnomefreak> e_machinist, late april dapper is set to be out
[04:01] <yatesy> ubuntu: donations
[04:02] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:02] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[04:02] <apokryphos> mwe: you haven't understood that sudo and su are quite different models. sudo -i and su are not the same, for one. And yes, the root account is disabled by default.
[04:02] <mwe> apokryphos: um yes I have
[04:02] <e_machinist> Yep, I got April 20 on me calendar... counting the days. (Not really)
[04:02] <e_machinist> heh.
[04:02] <gnomefreak> lol e_
[04:02] <mwe> apokryphos: so what does the 'id' command say after you sudo -i?
[04:02] <apokryphos> mwe: sudo -i and su are emphatically *not* the same.
[04:02] <gnomefreak> its gonna be nice once they get all bugs worked out and packages fixed :))
[04:03] <apokryphos> irrelevant, again.
[04:03] <grundo> hwo i can define what version of ubuntu im running?
[04:03] <mwe> apokryphos: I know it's not the same. I didn't state they're the same
[04:03] <apokryphos> grundo: define? Find out? cat /etc/issue
[04:03] <shuveb-home> hi, can i upgrade to breezy while still running GNOME... or do I have to exit all X stuff and do it from the text mode?
[04:03] <mwe> apokryphos: you still become root with sudo -i
[04:03] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, if im not mistaken its only in the "background" that they are not same
[04:03] <grundo> ok
[04:04] <apokryphos> shuveb-home: better to do it from a console -- will save things stop running through the installation. Still, it's possible either way.
[04:04] <grundo> thanks
[04:04] <gnomefreak> shuveb-home, you can do it eitehr way
[04:04] <Unity> sometimes, i get `cpu temperature above threshold, running in modulated clock mode` in my first console, because my cpu cooling is bad. is this ubuntu specific or does all linux have this
[04:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell shuveb-home about upgrade
[04:04] <shuveb-home> gnomefreak, apokryphos : thanks
[04:04] <Stork> how can i make my ubuntu machine always request the same ip addr?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:04] <gnomefreak> shuveb-home, read the pm ubotu sent you
[04:05] <apokryphos> mwe: the point here was that automatix enables the root (su) user account, which is  not "the ubuntu way", quite evidently. There's reasons for why it's disabled.
[04:05] <grundo> there is no such file than /etc/issue
[04:05] <shuveb-home> gnomefreak, got that, thanks!
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> grundo,  make one then?
[04:05] <sorush20> is there any messenger that enables sound transfere in yahoo?
[04:05] <Stork> how can i make my ubuntu machine always request the same ip addr? it's command line only.
[04:05] <apokryphos> grundo: there really is.
[04:05] <grundo> i just want to find out what's version of ubuntu im running right now..
[04:06] <apokryphos> Stork: you'll have to set up a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:06] <mwe> apokryphos: Yeah the reason is someone thinks it's more secure. and it probably is too
[04:06] <kameron> after a apt-get update, i get this: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[04:06] <apokryphos> grundo: cat /etc/issue, then
[04:06] <kent> grundo, in the desktop - choose System -> About ubuntu
[04:06] <ubuntu> click on system and then click on about ubuntu
[04:06] <tafsen> Anyone here that knows Gparted?
[04:06] <apokryphos> mwe: not just that; it's a superior model in many ways.
[04:06] <mwe> apokryphos: how so, other that being more secure?
[04:07] <Stork> apokryphos, at the moment it's configured to use dhcp, how can i change that? do i just put a different ip?
[04:07] <kent> Stork, in the network-settings yes.
[04:08] <Stork> the network-settings??
[04:08] <Pygi> !patience
[04:08] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:08] <grundo> still don't know what version. .
[04:08] <netstar> !firefox1.5
[04:08] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:08] <apokryphos> mwe: check the wiki; it highlights a few things.
[04:08] <Katie^> yeah, patient for the next what 3 hours, lol
[04:08] <mwe> !root
[04:08] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:09] <apokryphos> mwe: I've gotta dash, so I'll expand later. But basically, sudo lets you run what as who.
[04:09] <grundo> !version
[04:09] <ubotu> grundo: I haven't a clue
[04:09] <grundo> !ubuntu version
[04:09] <ubotu> grundo: I haven't a clue
[04:09] <Pygi> grundo: you got ur answer, what seems to be problem?
[04:09] <apokryphos> grundo: cat /etc/issue
[04:09] <grundo> cat?
[04:10] <apokryphos> grundo: put that command in.
[04:10] <sorush20> is ymessenger anywhere in the repositories?
[04:10] <grundo> sory for beeing so pain in the ****
[04:10] <grundo> :)
[04:10] <grundo> im just neeb
[04:10] <grundo> noob
[04:10] <grundo> newbie
[04:10] <cvt|kde> how can i play sound from two different apps simultaneously?
[04:11] <tafsen> How is the easyest way to add some unused space on the HDD in ubuntu?
[04:11] <Unity> tafsen: you can buy a bigger hdd
[04:11] <apokryphos> Stork: gotta dash, but basically you'll want to structure your interfaces like this http://pastebin.com/494941
[04:11] <cvt|kde> when i play a video sound in java doesn't work and when i play sound in flash, sound in video doesn't work
[04:11] <apokryphos> Stork: you'll want to change 10.0.0.50 (or leave it the same, I guess) -- that'll be your static ip
[04:11] <cvt|kde> i personally don't see the purpose in that
[04:12] <grundo> cool im running Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger
[04:12] <apokryphos> Stork: after you change it, then sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[04:12] <Stork> apokryphos, ok thanks
[04:12] <Caius> mines still installing hoary after 4 hours :(
[04:12] <tafsen> Unity, lol.. I miss typed something there :p I have Dualboot, and I freed some space from the NTFS disc, now I wan't to add that do my linux part
[04:12] <mwe> apokryphos: I think the sudo way is perfectly sane and I see the point about fine grained security policy. I think we just use different definitions. In my world the root account is not disabled, just root login
[04:13] <Yoni> How can I configure iptables to work automatic with the boot of Ubuntu?
[04:13] <Unity> tafsen: sorry i dunno much about resizing partitions. wait for someone else to help you out
[04:13] <tafsen> Anyone who can help me with resizing partitions?
[04:13] <Pygi> !oatuebce
[04:13] <ubotu> Not a clue, Pygi
[04:13] <Pygi> !patience
[04:13] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[04:13] <THE_DIRK> hello
[04:14] <mwe> tafsen: yeah live-cd, run parted
[04:14] <MrKeuner> hi, which is the meta package to compile programs and create deb packages?
[04:14] <THE_DIRK> how do you install deb packages??
[04:14] <kameron> source-o-matic creates instructions on what to do if you get bad keys.. cat /etc/apt/sources.list shows you how to create gpg database, etc. cool!
[04:14] <MrKeuner> THE_DIRK/ dpkg -i <package_name>
[04:14] <Unity> tafsen: wait, freeing space on ntfs doesn't mean you can transfer that over to your linux partition...
[04:14] <grundo> sudo apt-get instal plaaplaal.deb
[04:15] <JoeBlow> does anyone know where the wiki is for manually installing grub?
[04:15] <mase> !webcam
[04:15] <JoeBlow> cant find it anywhere
[04:15] <Unity> tafsen: you can only add unpartitioned space to your linux partition
[04:15] <ubotu> somebody said webcam was now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[04:15] <mwe> !grub
[04:15] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:15] <THE_DIRK> thanx
[04:15] <tafsen> Unity, yes.. I freed it(unpartitioned it)
[04:16] <mwe> amsn. ugh
[04:16] <JoeBlow> mwe, thank you
[04:16] <Unity> tafsen: oh ok, sorry i misread
[04:16] <mwe> JoeBlow: you're welcome
[04:16] <BigKahuna> sorry if this is a stupid question but is it possible to allocate hard disk space as RAM?
[04:16] <Unity> BigKahuna: that's what swap is
[04:16] <mwe> BigKahuna: yeah. swap
[04:16] <yatesy> BigKahuna: yes its called swap
[04:17] <mwe> BigKahuna: you should always have some
[04:17] <Unity> BigKahuna: type in `mount|grep swap`
[04:17] <tafsen> mwe: could you give me commnd of adding unpartitioned space to my ubuntu part?
[04:17] <THE_DIRK> dpkg doesn'y work =(
[04:17] <BigKahuna> ok so if I only have 32MB of RAM can I resolve potential performance issues be increasing my swap partition?
[04:17] <JoeBlow> tafsen, try gparted
[04:17] <Unity> BigKahuna: nvm, that doens't work...
[04:17] <THE_DIRK> how do you install .deb packages?
[04:18] <tafsen> JoeBlow, Im not allowed to do anything in it
[04:18] <chmod775> !kernel
[04:18] <kremonte> THE_DIRK:  sudo dpkg -i debname.deb
[04:18] <chmod775> ubotu, u there ?
[04:18] <ubotu> chmod775: Wish i knew
[04:18] <chmod775> !kernel
[04:18] <mwe> tafsen: just run qtparted from a knoppix cd. you can resize and what not in the gui. I think the ubuntu live-cd has gparted IIRC it does the same
[04:18] <THE_DIRK> thanx
[04:18] <sorush20> anyone here.
[04:18] <kent> BigKahuna, you can create a swap-file on the drive. Its the most easyest way to solve it i think. But using swap as ram is very very slow. Its better to find cheap ram somewhere.
[04:18] <chmod775> !ub
[04:18] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, chmod775
[04:19] <chmod775> !lol
[04:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, lol is "laugh out loud", or really annoying when used as punctuation
[04:19] <kremonte> stop spamming the bot, use /msg please
[04:19] <chmod775> I am sorry kremonte
[04:19] <mwe> rofl
[04:19] <mase> !rofl
[04:19] <ubotu> mase: Are you on ritalin?
[04:19] <Unity> BigKahuna: ubuntu should have automatically deteremined how much swap you should have when you installed it, unless you manually partitioned
[04:19] <BigKahuna> problem I have is that I cant update the RAM on my notebook, it's a very very old Song Vaio...was looking for alternative ways to speed things up. Any suggestions.
[04:19] <BigKahuna> Sony
[04:19] <yatesy> swap won't speed things up
[04:20] <mwe> BigKahuna: how much ram does it have
[04:20] <BigKahuna> 32
[04:20] <yatesy> if anything it'll slow things down if your hard drive is constantly swapping
[04:20] <mwe> BigKahuna: you can't run x windows decently with that
[04:20] <Seveas> 32mb is not enough
[04:20] <BigKahuna> yeah I know...
[04:20] <Unity> sometimes, i get `cpu temperature above threshold, running in modulated clock mode` in my first console, because my cpu cooling is bad. is this ubuntu specific or does all linux have this
[04:20] <hikenboot> anyone know what this is looking for  Unable to find the QT installation.?????
[04:21] <BigKahuna> thats why Im looking for a way to increase the RAM somehow...
[04:21] <Seveas> !tell hikenboot about compiling
[04:21] <mwe> BigKahuna: I would look for another linux distro
[04:21] <mwe> BigKahuna: and not use x windows
[04:21] <Seveas> BigKahuna, damn small linux may be better for you
[04:21] <yatesy> was just about to suggest that :)
[04:22] <BigKahuna> I need a graphical interface, I have modded my old vaio so it's kind of a digital picture frame, the idea is to run photo slideshows on it.
[04:23] <yatesy> that you might be able to get away with, if you run nothing else
[04:23] <jungle> general direction pls on how to obtain OfFice 2,0 for ubuntu package
[04:23] <yatesy> but ubuntu is still not for you
[04:23] <kremonte> jungle - synaptic?
[04:23] <hardbop200> hey, good news guys
[04:23] <yatesy> !openoffice
[04:23] <ubotu> yatesy: I haven't a clue
[04:23] <jungle> yes, synaptic,
[04:24] <yatesy> :/
[04:24] <kremonte> !info openoffice
[04:24] <BigKahuna> what about the thin client thingy?
[04:24] <kremonte> boo
[04:24] <jtrask> morning all... im considering a couple different distros for a machine im building. im very much liking the looks of ubuntu, though i was curious -- what kind of support is there for amd64?
[04:24] <kremonte> ah
[04:24] <kremonte> !info openoffice.org
[04:24] <ubotu> openoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.5-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6707 kB, Installed size: 28920 kB
[04:24] <hardbop200> I was able to get a fully-preemptable kernel with realtime privs compiled and running last night on my 5.10 box
[04:24] <jungle> tks, ill try now
[04:25] <hardbop200> (good for audio work)
[04:25] <irvin> jungle, just try updating your box (sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade)
[04:26] <yatesy> i thought openoffice 2 wasn't in the repositories? i had to install it from debs provided by a developer
[04:26] <yatesy> i can't find the link again
[04:27] <jungle> yes, i dont thinks in the repositores
[04:27] <mwe> yatesy: seveas
[04:27] <kestas> is there any script which will wipe free space on ext3?
[04:27] <irvin> yatesy, it's on universe
[04:27] <kestas> so all the unlinked to space gets wiped!!
[04:27] <Sionide> rm -rf   ?
[04:28] <yatesy> wasn't when i installed it
[04:28] <Katie^> men
[04:28] <kremonte> recursive and removes directories, Sionide
[04:28] <Katie^> got it to work
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Sionide,  he means to zero out the allready deleted files so they cant be recovered i think
[04:28] <Katie^> btw.
[04:28] <mwe> yatesy: wnat the link?
[04:28] <kestas> Sionide, rm -rf just unlinks it, it doesnt wipe it
[04:28] <Sionide> *shrug*
[04:28] <yatesy> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80392 < thats what i used
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> there are secure delete tools out for linux
[04:28] <kestas> Dr_Willis, there must be some out now though right?
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> for the truely paranoid :P
[04:28] <kestas> for ext3
[04:28] <mwe> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/ ./
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> ive seen some on several live cd's  - ive juist never used any
[04:29] <yatesy> mwe: thats what i just said ;)
[04:29] <mwe> yatesy: I thought you talked about a forum thread
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> Several wiping tools (such as shred and wipe) ensure that files are really erased from your hard disk
[04:30] <mwe> or dd
[04:30] <yatesy> mwe: thats the line taken from the first post :)
[04:30] <mwe> yatesy: ok
[04:30] <mwe> yatesy: I didn't read it :|
[04:33] <indo> I have a small home network, 2 pcs both running ubuntu - is there a way I can download updates only once and then install to both the computers?
[04:34] <mwe> indo: yes but I forgot how :\
[04:34] <jinroh> Can anyone recommend a USB scanner for ver 5.10 that will work out of the box?
[04:35] <mwe> I there anything special you need to get fglrx to do tvout?
[04:35] <yatesy> indo: theres a package on debian to do that, dunno if its been ported over to ubuntus respositories
[04:35] <mwe> yatesy: do you remember the name?
[04:35] <yatesy> apt cacher or something
[04:36] <yatesy> http://www.nick-andrew.net/projects/apt-cacher/
[04:36] <indo> going to check it out, thanks yatesy
[04:36] <mwe> yatesy: oh it's in ubuntu, just found it
[04:36] <mwe> yatesy: apt-cacher it was, indeed
[04:37] <yatesy> nice :)
[04:37] <indo> all you ubuntu gurus kick ass
[04:37] <mwe> yatesy: in universe though
[04:38] <JoeBlow> can someone help me out with installing grub from live cd, ive done it a couple times fine, but this time, i get some weird errors
[04:38] <JoeBlow> and ive done the wilki
[04:38] <bSON> hi
[04:38] <Grundo> hi
[04:38] <JoeBlow> hi
[04:39] <Grundo> :-)
[04:39] <aTypical> Hello all
[04:39] <yatesy> nice host
[04:39] <Grundo> hi
[04:39] <chihchun> hi
[04:39] <Kindred>  hi
[04:39] <mase> !cdrom
[04:39] <ubotu> mase: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:39] <JoeBlow> !grub
[04:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:39] <mase> how do i mount cdrom
[04:39] <Grundo> :)
[04:40] <JoeBlow> mase, a real cd, or iso?
[04:40] <Grundo> mount /cdrom
[04:40] <Madeye> anyone have php5 installed on ubuntu ? if yes please tell me what's the default group for it?
[04:40] <Grundo> type that
[04:40] <chihchun> double click nautilus ?
[04:40] <ppd> hello! does somebody know a gnome applet which provides me some extended information about cups? e.g pages printed today, the last week.... printed document size alltogether... printed pages of the last 3 hours... and so on
[04:40] <Grundo> for  umount type umount /cdrom
[04:40] <Grundo> :-)
[04:40] <mwe> heh. a new version of ipw2200 was just released. it's broken there's already a patch for it. bummer
[04:40] <JoeBlow> how do i mount a drive in live cd?
[04:41] <kremonte> !mount
[04:41] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:41] <mwe> JoeBlow: mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/something
[04:41] <Grundo> !windowsdrives
[04:41] <ubotu> somebody said windowsdrives was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[04:41] <JoeBlow> mwe , can u do it in live cd?
[04:41] <mwe> JoeBlow: sure
[04:41] <bSON> couldn't you implement in ubuntu that it puts the partitions into /etc/fstab by volume label and not by device? i think volumes named "Share" or "MP3s" are simpler than such volumes like "hda5" and "hda8", especially for home users
[04:42] <Niju> hello where cani download drivers for linux
[04:42] <JoeBlow> mwe , mount: can't find /dev/hdb3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:42] <mwe> JoeBlow: if it can't detect the file system you need mount -t <fs_type> though
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: type it like I told you to
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: mount /dev/hdb /mnt/<mountpoint>
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/<mountpoint>
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: that is
[04:43] <JoeBlow> mwe, oh crap, i forgot the /mnt/boot
[04:43] <mwe> JoeBlow: mkdir -p /mnt/hdb3 && mount /dev/hdb3 /mnt/hdb3
[04:44] <JoeBlow> mwe, ok i got it mounted
[04:44] <mwe> JoeBlow: great
[04:45] <JoeBlow> mwe, when i do grub install for it, it tells me /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[04:46] <mwe> bSON: maybe. feel free to change it yourself though
[04:46] <mwe> JoeBlow: what are you trying to do?
[04:46] <JoeBlow> mwe, /sbin/grub-install /dev/hdb
[04:47] <mwe> JoeBlow: I only know how to use the grub shell. did you read the wiki?
[04:47] <bSON> yes, i mean during installation of ubuntu, whereever this is done there
[04:47] <JoeBlow> mwe, yea
[04:47] <bSON> or maybe not volume labels but something else
[04:47] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone
[04:48] <mwe> JoeBlow: sure you didn't miss anything, like the chroot if you wanna do it automatically?
[04:48] <Kindred> hey
[04:48] <bSON> but the device names aren't quite intuitive for most people. i think
[04:48] <bonez> Anyone able to help me how to change the splashscreen? I've read on art.gnome.org but I just dont get it =(
[04:48] <JoeBlow> mwe, it didnt say anythignabout chroot in wili
[04:48] <bSON> i know, it's just a little thing
[04:48] <JoeBlow> mwe, wiki
[04:49] <mwe> JoeBlow: well here it does: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:50] <JoeBlow> mwe, on what part, im on that page
[04:50] <Grundo> i tryed make exe program whit KDevelop and it compline it but it cannot configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[04:50] <Grundo> what to do?
[04:50] <JoeBlow> mwe, oh shit, ok i see it
[04:50] <mwe> JoeBlow: about a page down, just before "Recovering GRUB Automatically"
[04:50] <Pygi> grudno: .exe??? :P
[04:51] <Grundo> :P
[04:51] <JoeBlow> mwe, I never even had to touch that part before, ive installed grub about 5 times this week, and this is the first trouble its given me, i could have done it by memory before this
[04:51] <mwe> JoeBlow: ok
[04:51] <Pygi> grundo: shouldnt you been trying to create a .bin? :P
[04:51] <Grundo> :P all
[04:51] <mwe> JoeBlow: just run "grub" and do it manually. that should work
[04:51] <Grundo> i just sawp linux
[04:51] <Grundo> :)
[04:51] <Red-Sox> hello
[04:51] <Grundo> hi
[04:51] <JoeBlow> mwe, thats how i was doing it, and it wasnt working, was it because the hd wasnt mounted?
[04:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: in that case you can forget about chroot
[04:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: no
[04:52] <Red-Sox> I was trying to use the 64-bit live cd on an amd 64 fx dual-core and I got no gui :/
[04:52] <LoPMX84> hi, can anyone tell me how can i run internet explorer on ubuntu? because i need a browser!!!
[04:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: what was the error. be careful about typing the right partitions
[04:52] <Pygi> LoP: omg, internet explorer? are you sane? :P
[04:52] <Pygi> Lop: you have mozilla firefox
[04:53] <Red-Sox> LoPMX84: just use firefox/opera!!
[04:53] <LoPMX84> geez, i'm just jerking out ;] 
[04:53] <LoPMX84> :P
[04:53] <Kindred> i knew it..
[04:53] <mwe> sed 's/opera//'
[04:53] <Corwin> I just replaced windows for ubuntu. I really l ike it.
[04:54] <LoPMX84> Corwin, yeah, so did i, i need it for Ruby on Rails development, windows sucks as a dev machine for it
[04:54] <sorush20> how can I edit peoples configuration files from a remote location as a customer service tool?
[04:54] <Red-Sox> gosh!! I want ubuntu on my computer, just if i mess up the partitioning process, I'm knee-deep in trouble
[04:54] <Pygi> hehe, Ruby on rails :)
[04:54] <Red-Sox> :/
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  thts  when it pays to have a 2nd hard drive just for linux
[04:54] <Pygi> Red-Sox: well, get someone to install it remotely for you
[04:54] <LoPMX84> Pygi, r u RoR dev aswell?
[04:54] <Grundo> okay i get this error:
[04:54] <Grundo> *** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.4-p6.
[04:54] <Grundo> *** KDE requires automake 1.6
[04:54] <Grundo> make[1] : *** [cvs]  Error 1
[04:54] <Grundo> make: *** [all]  Error 2
[04:54] <Grundo> *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[04:55] <Pygi> LoP: No, I am a C/C++/Python/C# and whatever not developer :P
[04:55] <Red-Sox> !tell Grundo about paste
[04:55] <kremonte> is there anyway to list all usb devices i have plugged in?
[04:55] <Pygi> Grundo: dont paste :P
[04:55] <Grundo> ok
[04:55] <Grundo> sory
[04:55] <Grundo> :)
[04:55] <Pygi> just install new automake
[04:55] <LoPMX84> Pygi,  ;] 
[04:55] <Red-Sox> Dr_Willis: do you know about the partitioning process?
[04:55] <Grundo> sudo apt-get install automake?
[04:55] <Grundo> update
[04:55] <Grundo> ?
[04:55] <Corwin> Yeah i recently heard about Ruby on Rails.....now use PHP...any reason to swap?
[04:55] <Pygi> Red-Sox: well , what seems to be the problem? :P
[04:55] <LoPMX84> damn, tell me, why do i love terminal so much? ;] 
[04:56] <Pygi> Corwin: huh, ruby on railgun is way better :)
[04:56] <utada> hello, how can i save flash/shockwave movies to my hd using ff/epiphany?
[04:56] <Red-Sox> LoPMX84: if you really want to run ie, use crossover
[04:56] <LoPMX84> Corwin, any? 4 times faster development process? is it any good? ;] 
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Red-Sox,  ive done it doznes of times in the past.. and if you are not carefull - Yes you can trash your existing install
[04:56] <kremonte> is there anyway to list all usb devices i have plugged in?
[04:56] <Pygi> red-sox: as I said, get someone to install it remotely for you
[04:56] <LoPMX84> Red-Sox, nah, no need, i'll jus tswitch to xp whenever i need to test IE's CSS capabilities ;] 
[04:56] <Red-Sox> Pygi: well, I really REALLY want ubuntu on my computer, but if I fry my HDD :O
[04:56] <Kindred> kremonte, lsusb
[04:56] <Pygi> ubotu tell kremonte about patience
[04:57] <Corwin> Really that much faster.. gotta try Ruby on Rails then...
[04:57] <Grundo> i tryed and it says that automake 1.4 is allready the new version
[04:57] <Red-Sox> Pygi: uummm, I tried that once, it's just that they couldnt get through my firewall :O
[04:57] <kremonte> Kindred: thanks :-)
[04:57] <Pygi> red-sox: huh? firewall when network installing? what are you talking about :P
[04:57] <Pygi> grundo: use synaptic
[04:57] <Grundo> ?
[04:57] <prxq> hi. What is the prefered way to install xemacs packages for which there is no debian support? I mean things as x-symbols, reftex, etc.
[04:57] <LoPMX84> Corwin, i'm a PHP developer aswell, but when you get ur hands on Ruby (the language) and Rails, u won't switch back to PHP
[04:57] <Red-Sox> Pygi: what?
[04:57] <Red-Sox> Pygi: i dont know what you are talking about :O
[04:57] <prxq> s/debian/ubuntu
[04:57] <LoPMX84> Corwin, Ruby just increases your creativity
[04:58] <utada> ?
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: and I have a router, if that matters
[04:58] <Pygi> red sox: well, when you are using network install cd, you don't have a firewall :P
[04:58] <Red-Sox> :(
[04:58] <Pygi> LoP: ruby on railgun? :)
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: you mean remote access, right?
[04:58] <Pygi> red-sox: yup, yup
[04:58] <LoPMX84> Pygi, rather a machinegun ;] [
[04:58] <Pygi> LoP: nah, machinegun is not good....
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: hmmm
[04:58] <Red-Sox> Pygi: well, I'm still not sure
[04:58] <LoPMX84> Corwin, and, if you don't own a mac - radrails.org, a good editor for free (based on eclipse)
[04:59] <LoPMX84> Pygi, volcano?
[04:59] <Red-Sox> Pygi: mb I'll just buy/rip a secondary hard drive
[04:59] <Red-Sox> Pygi: or just use the live cd :D
[04:59] <Red-Sox> but that is why I came here...
[04:59] <Corwin> Allright. I go and try it.  But PHP has many free scripts. does ROR also have this?
[04:59] <LoPMX84> Pygi, are you 'she'? ;] 
[04:59] <Pygi> LoP: lol, no :P
[04:59] <Red-Sox> I was trying to use the 64-bit live cd on an amd 64 fx dual-core and I got no gui :/
[04:59] <Red-Sox> gah!
[04:59] <Red-Sox> command line is scary
[04:59] <Pygi> LoP: why would you made such an assumption? LOL
[04:59] <Red-Sox> o_O
[04:59] <Pygi> Red-Sox: command line is great :P
[05:00] <Red-Sox> Pygi: ya
[05:00] <LoPMX84> Corwin, well, it depends what do you mean by script? ROR is a framework, not a language, Ruby is a language
[05:00] <Pygi> Red-Sox: way better then gui
[05:00] <Red-Sox> Pygi: it's too much for my young mind
[05:00] <Red-Sox> gtg
[05:00] <LoPMX84> Pygi cuz it sounds like a female nickname? :P
[05:00] <Pygi> LoP: lol
[05:00] <LoPMX84> Red-Sox, way way way better than gui ;] 
[05:01] <LoPMX84> Pygi, nah, look at os x ;] 
[05:01] <LoPMX84> but, this year is going to be fun for linux
[05:01] <LoPMX84> many changes in KDE (version 4), GNOME (version 3) and X Window for example
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> morenin folks...
[05:01] <Kr0ntab> mornin*
[05:01] <LoPMX84> we're going to have a great os up here ;] 
[05:01] <Mr_Molez> does anyone know of any place to get updated kernel versions ?
[05:01] <Pygi> LoP: I will, I just have to buy a apple mini :P
[05:02] <druke> Heya ubuntu, i'm using an acer aspire 3003wlmi (a laptop), and i'm trying to get the internal wifi to work. I know i have to set up the DSDT, just wondering if anyone has any experiance in the same matter here?
[05:02] <wdh> LoPMX, we already have one :)
[05:02] <yatesy> Mr_Molez: kernel.org :P
[05:02] <Pygi> Molez: well, compile the kernel on your own
[05:02] <LoPMX84> Pygi, yeah, i'm considering to buy mini aswell ;] 
[05:02] <Kr0ntab> druke, what card do you have
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> id rather build my own uber-micro-itx :P
[05:02] <LoPMX84> wdh but not as fun as os x is! ;] 
[05:02] <Pygi> LoP: i've never use mac :P and now I have to learn Cocoa thingy
[05:02] <LoPMX84> Dr_Acemaster, lol
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> Got an ImacDV in the back room.. rarely even used.
[05:02] <Mr_Molez> i was hoping i would not have to do that, are there not any updated kernel versions made especially for ubuntu ?
[05:02] <LoPMX84> Pygi, well install x86 version then on ur pc, i got it running, it worked as a charm, great os, but don't want to use it illegally
[05:03] <LoPMX84> Mr_Molez, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:03] <druke> Kr0ntab: its nat a cr dits built in, just says "wigi b/g" ndiswrapper has the drivers, but its a hardware problem with the bios formw hat i understand
[05:03] <cleo> how can you upgrade from hoary to breezy with cd? what do I have to add in sources.list?
[05:03] <Pygi> LoP: huh, I'll rather buy the mini thingy
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> I just must expect more out of Os-X -  it just dident impress me much.
[05:03] <Corwin> Is there anyone here who's theme looks like the old motif/CDE look? just curious...
[05:03] <LoPMX84> Pygi, + 30" display? ;] 
[05:03] <prxq> any xemacs users here?
[05:03] <Pygi> LoP: no, no need for that :P
[05:03] <yatesy> CDE sucks
[05:03] <Corwin> mine does. I kind of like it.
[05:03] <LoPMX84> Corwin, eh ;] 
[05:04] <Pygi> LoP: vi refuses to run on such a large screen :P
[05:04] <LoPMX84> Pygi, lol
[05:04] <prxq> Corwin: i kinda hate it, but have to use cde at work.
[05:04] <Corwin> yeah I noticed many people find it extremely ugly
[05:04] <LoPMX84> Pygi, then go to text mate ;] 
[05:04] <druke> Kr0ntab:  hands was off .. its not a card its built in "wi-fi b/g"
[05:04] <prxq> I find the sun box I have to work with horrible
[05:05] <LoPMX84> damn, why i can't get my Intel Media Accelerator 900 3D acceleration to work? ;/
[05:05] <prxq> including cde
[05:05] <Corwin> I use kubuntu...but window and buttons etc are motif like. So I don't use CDE. but Gnome
[05:05] <LoPMX84> i'd love to have compmgr hardware accelerated shadows
[05:06] <LoPMX84> KDE...
[05:06] <LoPMX84> dunno why, but i hate KDE
[05:06] <aTypical> Anyone here using Dapper?  If so, how is it?  Is it relatively stable?  I was using it a month or so ago, but switched distro's for a spell.
[05:06] <LoPMX84> aTypical, stable
[05:06] <Corwin> Yes are these "hardware accelerated" GUI's much faster? like the stuff from Xi graphics?
[05:06] <LoPMX84> aTypical, using it now, works great
[05:06] <davidhouse> hey, i want to install ubuntu on my 60GB laptop drive. i already have winxp and suse installed. will it be easy to repartition and put ubuntu on?
[05:07] <LoPMX84> Corwin, usually yeah?
[05:07] <davidhouse> or will it be too much of a squeeze
[05:07] <aTypical> LoPMX84, at one point there was an issue with locales.  Did you experience that?  Also, did you do a fresh install or a dist-upgrade?
[05:07] <LoPMX84> davidhouse, yeah
[05:07] <LoPMX84> aTypical, a dist-upgrade from 5.10, yesterdaty
[05:07] <LoPMX84> aTypical, and i don't get any problems with locale
[05:08] <aTypical> LoPMX84, that's great news.  Thank you.
[05:08] <davidhouse> LoPMX84, will the ubuntu installer do it?
[05:08] <Kr0ntab> druke,  sorry my kid woke and had to address somethin...  what type of wireless card are you trying to get working?
[05:08] <LoPMX84> davidhouse, sure, if you want it to
[05:08] <tafsen> mwe: witch live cd was I supose to use for partitioning?
[05:08] <davidhouse> do i want it to? :)
[05:09] <davidhouse> or should i use something else then install ubuntu
[05:09] <LoPMX> I LOOOOOVE UBUNTU!!! (and everybody now, 'I LOOOOOVE UBUNTU!)
[05:09] <Corwin> *CHEERS WITH LoPMX*
[05:09] <LoPMX> davidhouse, depends what do u want it to do?
[05:10] <LoPMX> davidhouse, you want to remove suse and install ubuntu on it's place?
[05:11] <davidhouse> well, my suse installation currently takes up about 30GB, winxp about 20GB and the rest is swap and a diagnostics partition the vendor stuck on my laptop
[05:11] <davidhouse> i'd like to resize one or either of them down so i can install ubuntu.
[05:11] <Grundo> hwo i can update my automake to 1.6
[05:11] <davidhouse> i'd like to avoid removing suse if possible
[05:11] <LoPMX> hmm, don't think you can resize it on install process, try installing any windows/linux tool for resizing (like gparted for linux)
[05:11] <bSON> Grundo: install automake1.6
[05:11] <Grundo> hwo?
[05:12] <bSON> apt-get install automake1.6
[05:12] <Corwin> Has anyone experience with VMWare?
[05:12] <Grundo> ok
[05:12] <Grundo> thanks
[05:12] <bSON> sudo apt-get install automake1.6
[05:12] <bSON> that is
[05:13] <davidhouse> LoPMX, and would you recommend that approach or would it be too difficult?
[05:14] <LoPMX> well, i'd suggest to remove suse, i mean in the installer tell it to use the old (suse) linux partitions
[05:14] <LoPMX> and that's it
[05:14] <davidhouse> yeah
[05:14] <Kr0ntab> Corwin, what's the issue?
[05:15] <VincentMX> why isn't Aleph One in the Ubuntu repositories?
[05:15] <mwe> VincentMX: what's that?
[05:15] <fred_> What about RSS owl
[05:15] <VincentMX> mwe it's a game, based on bungie
[05:15] <VincentMX> 's marathon
[05:15] <Mr_Molez> how would let apt-get install packaged from the dapper release ??
[05:16] <Amaranth> Mr_Molez: you'd have to upgrade to dapper, which isn't stable right now
[05:16] <Mr_Molez> Amaranth: k
[05:16] <bSON> how stable is dapper at this point? i mean, if using flght cd 2?
[05:16] <bSON> does it still have major issues?
[05:17] <LoPMX> hmm, what bittorrent client do u suggest?
[05:18] <VincentMX> LoPMX, gnome has a bittorent client, but i don't know it's name
[05:18] <LoPMX> bSON, i'm using dist-upgraded version from breezy, work's great
[05:18] <LoPMX> VincentMX, yeah, but it has no configuration options at all ;] 
[05:18] <bSON> cool
[05:18] <VincentMX> ok
[05:18] <irvin> bSON, it's still unstable but you're always welcome to test it and report bugs
[05:19] <Amaranth> bSON: Do you know how to 1) fix dependency problems, 2) use apt pinning, and 3) report bugs?
[05:19] <VincentMX> are you still there, mwe?
[05:19] <aTypical> LoPMX, did you work off someones instructions for you upgrade?
[05:19] <bSON> Amaranth: i know 3), but not 1) and 2)
[05:20] <Amaranth> bSON: then you probably shouldn't use dapper
[05:20] <LoPMX> aTypical, eh, no? just apt-get dist-upgrade, that's all (+ added dapper repositories)
[05:20] <Amaranth> bSON: not for another month or so, anyway
[05:20] <mwe> VincentMX: yeah I'm here
[05:20] <akurashy> how do i extract a .ace ?
[05:21] <mwe> akurashy: unace
[05:21] <bSON> but actually I'd like to help with dapper... what is apt pinning?
[05:21] <JoeBlow> quit
[05:21] <akurashy> mwe, thanks going to try now
[05:22] <VincentMX> mwe, so Aleph One is a game based on Bungie's marathon, and i really like it, but it's not in the apt, and so i had to download some stupid rpm witch doesn't work, so i'd really like to have it in apt.
[05:22] <C-O-L-T> how can i install from synaptic skype?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> theres a SKYPE wiki page - you should read.
[05:23] <VincentMX> C-O-L-T you can't it's not free software iiac
[05:23] <C-O-L-T> VincentMX: I want to install the new version
[05:23] <mwe> !skype
[05:23] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[05:23] <C-O-L-T> VincentMX: how?
[05:23] <VincentMX> C-O-L-T see ubotu
[05:23] <mwe> VincentMX: so bug the developers to get it in
[05:24] <Seveas> !no skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:24] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[05:24] <Seveas> mwe, Ubuntu will mostlikely never include skype
[05:24] <Inf3ctedFx> I use Gizmo Prohect
[05:24] <Inf3ctedFx> better than skype
[05:24] <bluesign> hi where can I get kernel sources for 2.6.12-10-386?
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> Project
[05:25] <mwe> Seveas: no
[05:25] <aTypical> LoPMX, I'm trying a dist-upgrade and it says there's nothing to do.  Did you ever experience that?
[05:25] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: the link to install skype  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/  is broken
[05:25] <LoPMX> aTypical, did you add dapper repositories to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[05:25] <mwe> Seveas: it was a guy who wanted an open source game in ubuntu
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> C-O-L-T:  install gizmo project
[05:25] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: how to install the new version of skype and firefox
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> is much better
[05:25] <aTypical> LoPMX, I went through my sources.list and changed everything breezy to dapper.
[05:25] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: what is that?
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> hold on let me show u
[05:26] <aTypical> It appears to read the dapper sources, but then does nothing.
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> is a VoIP services like skype
[05:26] <polpak> aTypical: did you then sudo apt-get update
[05:26] <LoPMX> aTypical, so first sudo apt-get update (to udpate)
[05:26] <mase> !skype
[05:26] <ubotu> I guess skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:26] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: i need skype, my contacts use skype
[05:26] <Inf3ctedFx> C-O-L-T:   http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> there is no skype for ubuntu, used to be but now anymore
[05:27] <C-O-L-T> ubotu: the link is broken
[05:27] <ubotu> C-O-L-T: okay
[05:27] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: I believe seveas has skupe packages
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> ubotu  is a bot. :P
[05:27] <ubotu> Dr_Willis: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:27] <aTypical> LoPMX, polpak, I did that, but still no go.  The last line I get is this - 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:27] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: skype*
[05:28] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: can i phone skype users with gizmo?
[05:28] <Grundo> hi all!
[05:28] <polpak> aTypical: then did you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:28] <JoeBlow> !grub
[05:28] <ubotu> I guess grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:28] <aTypical> polpak, yes.
[05:28] <Grundo> !sudo
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> I couldn't update my sources because is srewing me the Seveas  repositories :(
[05:28] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:28] <Inf3ctedFx> for the public key
[05:28] <C-O-L-T> ubotu: how to install skype. Don't give me again the broken link.
[05:28] <ubotu> C-O-L-T: Wish i knew
[05:29] <polpak> ubotu tell C-O-L-T about ubotu
[05:29] <C-O-L-T> Inf3ctedFx: gizmo compatible with skype/
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> C-O-L-T,  ubotu  is a bot - not a real person
[05:29] <Grundo> ubotu are u a bot?
[05:29] <ubotu> Grundo: Syntax error in line 1
[05:29] <Inf3ctedFx> I dont know C-O-L-T
[05:29] <davidhouse> heh.
[05:29] <davidhouse> that means yes
[05:29] <Kr0ntab> hehe
[05:29] <Grundo> :)
[05:29] <Grundo> yeah  . .
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> it PAYS to learn to use the wiki search... :P
[05:30] <Mr_Molez> !lart me
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: I realized now :)))) . How to install skype can you help me
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> C-O-L-T,  Nope. other then read the wiki...
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> i dont use skype
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> also ive heard of a lot of issues with skype and alsa
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: the link is broken
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: that one which is given by ubotu
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Im looking at   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29 right now.
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> as i said.. it pays to use the search feature of the wiki.
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> theyve reorganized the web site some
[05:32] <irvin> cool repo Seveas!
[05:32] <JoeBlow> mwe, hey can uhelp me out with manual grub install, it tells me my disk does not exist
[05:33] <cvt|kde> how do i make ubuntu play sounds from multiple apps at the same time?
[05:33] <mwe> ubotu: no, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:33] <ubotu> mwe: okay
[05:33] <cvt|kde> when one sound comes from one app sound from another app stops
[05:33] <mwe> !skype
[05:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[05:34] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: thanks it will work
[05:34] <mwe> JoeBlow: you need to give it the correct disk and partition
[05:34] <LoPMX> anyone interested to write good software for ubuntu?
[05:34] <Inf3ctedFx> hey mwe  this is the error that I have when I made apt-get upgrade  -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6743
[05:34] <JoeBlow> mwe, im using hdb3, i tell it (hd1,2)
[05:34] <polpak> LoPMX: to do what?
[05:35] <LoPMX> polpak, there is much to, np. stworzenie dobrego gui?
[05:35] <Grundo> i am interested
[05:35] <mwe> JoeBlow: looks ok. use tab completion to see what it recognizes
[05:35] <Grundo> what kind og progrssm?
[05:35] <LoPMX> what computer languages can u speak?
[05:35] <JoeBlow> mwe, how do i do that?
[05:35] <Grundo> c++
[05:35] <Grundo> c
[05:35] <Grundo> java
[05:35] <Grundo> python
[05:35] <mwe> !tell Inf3ctedFx about seveas
[05:35] <LoPMX> Grundo, great, any examples?
[05:36] <Grundo> what you mean?
[05:36] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: read that. use a mirror instead or you get 403
[05:36] <polpak> !tell Grundo about punctuation
[05:36] <LoPMX> Grundo, any programs?
[05:36] <polpak> !tell Grundo about enter
[05:36] <LoPMX> code examples?
[05:36] <Grundo> yes..
[05:36] <mwe> JoeBlow: type root(hd<tab> in the grub shell
[05:36] <Inf3ctedFx> I already it done that mwe  but now this is the error I get when I made apt-get update ->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6744
[05:37] <NoWhereMan> Gnomebaker freeze on startup: console -> (gnomebaker:11220): Gtk-WARNING **: gtkwidget.c:4205: widget not within a GtkWindow
[05:37] <NoWhereMan> *** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0x0811f4b0 ***
[05:37] <NoWhereMan> any known fix?
[05:37] <JoeBlow> mwe, it just repeats what i wrote, doesnt add any numbers
[05:37] <Grundo> do you want me to post some in here?
[05:37] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: broken mirror. use another one
[05:37] <Grundo> or your e-mail...
[05:37] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: (+ei)]  [3:#ubuntu(+Pcnt)]  [Act: 1,2] 
[05:37] <polpak> !tell Grundo about pastebin
[05:37] <mwe> [#ubuntu]  Inf3ctedFx:
[05:37] <mwe> sorry
[05:38] <pawelstol> LoPMX: are you ubuntu official? or just asking?
[05:38] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ works
[05:38] <Grundo> :)
[05:38] <LoPMX> pawelstol, nie, im not an official ;>
[05:38] <Inf3ctedFx> let me c that mwe
[05:39] <JoeBlow> mwe, any ideas, i know the drives mounted, ive browsed it
[05:39] <Grundo> what kind of program you have on your mind?
[05:39] <Sillion> hi
[05:39] <Grundo> hi
[05:39] <Sillion> i'm looking for some help... after searching on the web i havnt found a solution...
[05:39] <pawelstol> LoPMX: so what kind of software do you mean? are you looking for help with your project?
[05:40] <Sillion> no
[05:40] <Sillion> about a soft
[05:40] <Bevin> hi
[05:40] <Sillion> evolution
[05:40] <Kr0ntab> Sillion, just ask....
[05:40] <Sillion> to import my old mails from thunderbird
[05:40] <LoPMX> no im just thinking of making linux a better unified platform
[05:40] <mwe> JoeBlow: so root(hd1,2) doesn't work?
[05:41] <Bevin> I'm considering installing Ubuntu 32 bit on my 64 bit laptop, is there any real speed decrease or so that I should expect after doing so?
[05:41] <ROBOd> hey guys
[05:41] <ROBOd> i got a problem
[05:41] <LoPMX> pawelstol, like, improving gnome/kde? or maybe creating a brand new desktop environment?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  i use 32bit on my 64bit laptop...
[05:41] <ROBOd> i have gcc4.0.2 and my kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4.2
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,   unless you need 64bit for somtning. id stick with 32
[05:41] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: it seems that you avoid a lot of problems by doing so
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  Exactly!
[05:41] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: yeah, I think I'll reinstall
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  thats what i endedup doing as well
[05:42] <Sillion> Kr0ntab, some idea where i can find info about that?
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  my COmpaqV2311 is working nicely now with Ubuntu 5.10
[05:42] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: ok, cool :-)
[05:42] <pawelstol> LoPMX: ok, i see... not much sense to create another one desktop! it's much better to improve existing one and create utilities... IMHO
[05:42] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: I have an Acer Ferrari 4005
[05:42] <julio> hi, i will back to wndows >(((((((((((((((((
[05:42] <mwe> Bevin: frankly I don't think ubuntu 64bit is ready for the desktop
[05:42] <bryanl> Bevin, i'm jealous
[05:42] <LoPMX> pawelstol, skad jestes?
[05:42] <julio> cause the CEDEGA cant function my favorite game! Pro Evolution Sccer 5
[05:42] <julio> (
[05:43] <julio> :(
[05:43] <bryanl> i'm gonna get a dual core apple when they come out
[05:43] <Sillion> the import fonction build in soesnt work or i cant use it ! :P
[05:43] <Bevin> bryanl: I'm coming from mac
[05:43] <julio> carlos xD
[05:43] <pawelstol> LoPMX: Bydgoszcz ;)
[05:43] <mwe> Bevin: to much stuff don't work or only works half
[05:43] <LoPMX> pawelstol, o prosze ;]  tez ;]  studiujesz?
[05:43] <carlos__> hola?
[05:43] <Bevin> bryanl: I did some speed tests, and this laptop is 40% faster than my dual G5 2.5 GHz powermac :-/
[05:43] <Bevin> bryanl: quite frustrating
[05:43] <Kr0ntab> I've never done that... I'd have to search on it...
[05:43] <ROBOd> and ... it's not even the latest version ( kernel 2.6.12-10-386 )
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: yeah, that's what it looks like
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: I'm impression with Ubuntu though
[05:44] <Sillion> thx Kr0ntab  ;)
[05:44] <carlos__> someone can help me with a trouble?
[05:44] <Inf3ctedFx> mwe:  I cannot completed those.. here on the Seveas's Packages said If I have a 403 error means I'm getting the package from his machine and his bandwith is only finte, but now I use one of the mirros and all of them are broken mirros
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: I used to be a contributer to Gentoo
[05:44] <ROBOd> now ... installing the official nvidia drivers require me to compile their module for the kernel
[05:44] <ROBOd> with the same gcc
[05:44] <ROBOd> what to do?
[05:44] <mwe> Bevin: they ought to put a warning on the download site
[05:44] <pawelstol> anyone interested in creating ubuntu packages for my app (kleansweep)... there are debian packages already, so it should be relatively easy... i'm looking for a volunteer
[05:44] <Bevin> mwe: but Ubuntu really seems to bring linux to the desktop, finally
[05:44] <kbrooks> Hey all.
[05:44] <JoeBlow> mwe, right
[05:44] <julio> i will back to windows :(
[05:44] <ROBOd> where to get the latest kernel built with the gcc version i need?
[05:44] <mwe> Bevin: ubuntu is great
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:45] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: what would you give an A?
[05:45] <JoeBlow> i used windows for about 2 hours last night, then it reminded me why i deleted it in the first place
[05:45] <mwe> Bevin: you can't really blame ubuntu for sun and macromedia being lame, can you?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  Nothing that exists at this time
[05:45] <pawelstol> LoPMX: sort of... pracuje i studiuje zaocznie
[05:45] <oleerik> I cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help..
[05:45] <pawelstol> LoPMX: tzn robie drugie studia  :] 
[05:45] <mwe> Bevin: still it gives 64 bit users problems
[05:45] <Bevin> mwe: not, but I need both flash and java
[05:45] <ROBOd> somebody??
[05:45] <LoPMX> pawelstol,  ;]  swietnie,
[05:45] <Bevin> mwe: that's what I do for a living
[05:46] <carlos__> please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice
[05:46] <Bevin> ubuntu: :-)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> I dont even need a computer for what I do for a Living. :P
[05:46] <LoPMX> pawelstol, gdzie pracujesz? (btw. jakis komunikator masz?)
[05:46] <bryanl> 64 bit desktop isn't quite there yet
[05:46] <mwe> Bevin: yeah you wont get either to work in 64 bit unless you do 32 bit chroot. My advice is just use the 32 bit version
[05:46] <julio> !tell julio about Windows
[05:46] <julio> xD
[05:46] <pawelstol> LoPMX: w lucent technologies
[05:46] <carlos__> ke? XD
[05:46] <oleerik> I cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help... 64bit cpu but not installed the 64bit version of ubuntu.. can that be by problem?
[05:46] <Mr_Molez> * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the
[05:46] <LoPMX> pawelstol, uuuu ;] 
[05:46] <Mr_Molez> anyone know what package i need ?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> !info tuxracer
[05:46] <ubotu> tuxracer: (dummy transition package), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[05:47] <cvt|kde> everything is getting stuck in the processes
[05:47] <Mr_Molez> ive tried  apt-get install libqt4-dev
[05:47] <carlos__> please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice
[05:47] <Bevin> How do Guildwars and WoW run under wine? Is it as good as on Windows?
[05:47] <pawelstol> LoPMX: psi (gg & jabber()
[05:47] <mwe> Mr_Molez: qt4 ?!
[05:47] <mwe> Mr_Molez: why qt4?
[05:47] <LoPMX> pawelstol (gg:1083263, jabber: lopmx@jabberpl.org)
[05:48] <oleerik> I cant get apt-get install tuxracer work.. and i cant get ppracer to install eather... I need help... 64bit cpu but not installed the 64bit version of ubuntu.. can that be by problem?
[05:48] <Mr_Molez> mwe: umm wanted the latest version, is there something wrong with qt4 ?
[05:48] <mwe> Mr_Molez: you need libqt3-mt-dev and libqt3-headers
[05:48] <LoPMX> pawelstol, what do u program in?
[05:48] <Mr_Molez> mwe: ok thanks
[05:48] <carlos__> please, i have installed ubuntu into a slave and installed the grub into a master (with winxp) but when i reboot, the grub dont have the windows choice
[05:48] <ubuntu> now that I know that the download bandwidth and all that is run through donations, how much do you think that the 600MB cost them? not that im looking for minimum amounts here :P
[05:48] <LoPMX> carlos__, poor you ;] 
[05:48] <cvt|kde> popping noises when new app starts
[05:49] <pawelstol> LoPMX: c, c++, perl, python -- http://linux.bydg.org/~yogin for my projects
[05:49] <carlos__> fuck you all
[05:49] <vrln> ...
[05:49] <ubuntu> :(
[05:49] <vrln> or he could have waited a few seconds until someone would have answered
[05:49] <vrln> but I guess not
[05:50] <polpak> I think he was upset by LoPMX 's response
[05:50] <LoPMX> pawelstol, no prosze, tez na blug ;] 
[05:50] <deFrysk> polpak, I think he was upset, period
[05:50] <ubuntu> now both your responses have upset me
[05:50] <kbrooks> I just wanted to annunce the Programedia project. Our website / wiki is at http://programedia.ath.cx
[05:50] <mwe> I think he was a jerk, period.
[05:50] <pawelstol> LoPMX: taaa... ale nie udzielam sie, za malo czasu
[05:50] <deFrysk> perhaps he has his period
[05:50] <mwe> deFrysk: yeah :)
[05:51] <deFrysk> ;p
[05:51] <Vivaldi> hello
[05:51] <Kindred> hey
[05:52] <dickmc> Hi all  -  How do I get the plugin to burn Mp3's to audia in GnomeBaker??  Thanks
[05:52] <Vivaldi> how much time has passed since the last version of ubuntu went out?
[05:52] <BxL> Vivaldi, october
[05:52] <polpak> Vivaldi: 3 months
[05:52] <vrln> Vivaldi: the next should be out in april (or was it march?)
[05:52] <ubuntu> I wish it was 0-day :/
[05:52] <Vivaldi> is there any other newer famous distribution?
[05:53] <irvin> Vivaldi, umm... Ubuntu?
[05:53] <vrln> Vivaldi: I would still try ubuntu - it is still "newer" than most other stable distributions (gnome 2.12 etc) :)
[05:53] <mwe> Vivaldi: 5.10 stands for year 2005 month 10 release
[05:53] <vrln> yup, next is 6.04
[05:54] <Vivaldi> i liked kubuntu, which is supposed to be based on ubuntu. i installed it 4 times and i was never able to login as root thorugh any of the graphical interfaces available there
[05:54] <irvin> Vivaldi, seriously you can check out www.distrowatch.com to see the new distros
[05:54] <BxL> Vivaldi, that's normal.
[05:54] <Dasnipa`> lol @ Vivaldi
[05:54] <vrln> Vivaldi: there is no root account by default
[05:54] <mwe> Vivaldi: root password is not set in ubuntu. you need to use sudo instead
[05:55] <vrln> Vivaldi: ubuntu uses sudo, ie, you can run commands as root by adding "sudo" in front of the command
[05:55] <Chousuke> Vivaldi: ... and you shouldn't login to X as root either.
[05:55] <Vivaldi> vrln, i was able to login from a terminal though
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> " is supposed to be "   ? :) it IS based on it.
[05:55] <Mr_Molez> anyone know where to find/install make-kpkg
[05:55] <yatesy> vrln: of course root exists you idiot :P
[05:55] <vrln> Vivaldi: and the password that it asks you when you use "sudo" is your normal user account
[05:55] <Dasnipa`> kubuntu is ubuntu btw with the kde window manager instead of gnome... you can get ubuntu and then switch to kubuntu by apt-getting it
[05:55] <vrln> yatesy: well, yes, it exists in a theoretical way, but not as in "you can log in with root"
[05:55] <bryanl> Chousuke, and why shouldn't you?
[05:55] <vrln> by default that is
[05:55] <ubuntu> there's a way to make root, saw it on some site
[05:55] <yatesy> it is there, theres countless daemons that run as root :P
[05:55] <Dasnipa`> you can sudo change root password and then there is root
[05:55] <Chousuke> bryanl: X assumes you don't :P
[05:56] <Vivaldi> vrln, NO. it was NOT. i did come here many times when i encountered the problem: everyone told me to provide the user password, but it didnt work in that case too
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> the 'evil' - "i have to be root!" mentality !:P
[05:56] <mwe> vrln: it does very much exist. sudo su root would be like logging in as root. many processes run as root
[05:56] <sproingie> if you install with the 'advanced' installer, you get a normal root
[05:56] <Dasnipa`> Vivaldi, you dont su - you do sudo <command> and then it prompts for pass
[05:56] <sproingie> and no sudo user by default
[05:56] <Vivaldi> sproingie, that's what i did
[05:56] <Bevin> Still wondering which filesystem to use on a laptop, ext3 or reiser?
[05:56] <vrln> yatesy/mwe: I know, but know what I meant :)
[05:56] <vrln> you know*
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> heh... such a simple security alteration.. causes soo much screaming.
[05:57] <sproingie> Vivaldi: it's still using sudo, so login as root and visudo and add yourself to sudoers
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  ext3 :P
[05:57] <chrissturm> is there a tutorial somewhere how to use remote x11 from an osx system to ubuntu?
[05:57] <ubuntu> yeah, i prefer not to have to deal with stuff like that so it makes it easier to learn the other stuff
[05:57] <steve44> Morning
[05:57] <yatesy> vrln: we might, but other users won't so don't just say something that isn't true. it won't help them in the longrun
[05:57] <mwe> sproingie: I didn't get that. I believe I did the advanced install though
[05:57] <Vivaldi> sproingie, i did an advanced installation , while everyone telling me to insert the user password did a normal installation
[05:57] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: any particular reason, or just that it's worked well for you?
[05:57] <Vivaldi> i think that was the reason of the problem
[05:57] <chrissturm> hey bevin :)
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  i see no reason to not use ext3 actually
[05:57] <sproingie> mwe: maybe breezy did it different.  hoary worked that way, i've just upgraded it since then
[05:57] <Bevin> hi chrissturm, do I know you?
[05:57] <vrln> yatesy: well, ok, sorry, that was very unclearly said and I do apologise
[05:58] <mwe> sproingie: I think it sound inconsistent at least
[05:58] <Bevin> chrissturm: you nick doesn't ring a bell
[05:58] <yatesy> vrln: no need to appologise, just follow where i'm coming from :)
[05:58] <Mr_Molez> anyone know where to find/install make-kpkg
[05:58] <Bevin> chrissturm: but I have a bad memory ;-)
[05:58] <mcrslewis> anyone know why my system is like it is @ http://www-personal.umich.edu/~donofrio/6jan2006/after-updates/
[05:58] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: people say that reiser is faster
[05:58] <sproingie> mwe there's an implicit assumption that people who use the advanced installer are old hands at the os.  personally i think it's unwarranted
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  people say a lot of things. :P
[05:59] <sproingie> Bevin: reiser and xfs run circles around ext3
[05:59] <ktogias> Hi all, I often install Breezy in Greek language and after the installation (where i choose greek as the language), apt has to download from the net some packages as 'language-pack-el-base' for complete support of the greek lang. Those packages don't exist on the installation disk (CD). I am wondering how easy (or hard) it is to I build an custom installation ISO image with those (greek) packages included and some other tweaks.. Is there any ubuntu spe
[05:59] <ktogias> cific suggestion or howto, before I start trying?
[05:59] <chrissturm> bevin: from #xfire
[05:59] <Vivaldi> i do not understand how can one configure his/her system without having a  root account
[05:59] <mwe> yatesy: someone kept insisting root is disabled in ubuntu since the passwd man page defines disabled accounts as accounts with bogus hashed passwords :)
[05:59] <tafsen> Does the Ubuntu live cd include any partition programs?
[05:59] <Bevin> chrissturm: aaah, cool :-)
[06:00] <Bevin> sproingie: I've had good experiences with xfs on servers
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> I cant even recall ever seeing mention of the 'advanced' installer of ubuntu.. but all these people wuith problems seem to use it.. :P perhaps its best its hidden.
[06:00] <sproingie> Bevin: i run it on my desktop.  it's quite nice and fast
[06:00] <ROBOd> how to get gcc 3.4.2 ?
[06:00] <Bevin> sproingie: I think I'll try reiser, xfs is not really intended for desktop use, though it should be very stable
[06:01] <chrissturm> bevin: i wouldnt recommend using reiser
[06:01] <sproingie> Bevin: i've got a server at work running redhat with ext3 and another on even older hardware running suse 9 with reiser.  the suse box blows the doors off the redhat box
[06:01] <Vivaldi> for istance, how can i setup my particular connection to internet by modyfing some files under /etc without having the appropriate privilegies?
[06:01] <Bevin> chrissturm: why?
[06:01] <mwe> don't use xfs unless you are positive you wont get a power failure :)
[06:01] <trappist> ROBOd: that particular version isn't packaged, at least for breezy
[06:01] <sproingie> Bevin: xfs is fine for desktop use, long as you have a 64 bit desktop
[06:01] <Inf3ctedFx> I anyone familiar with the xchat? I'm trying to load up an script for xmms but I'm getting an error  here it is --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6745
[06:01] <Bevin> sproingie: I've had problems with both ext3 and reiser, so ;-)
[06:02] <sproingie> mwe: xfs journalling is just fine
[06:02] <Bevin> sproingie: well I'm going back to a 32 bit desktop
[06:02] <mwe> sproingie: I know
[06:02] <Bevin> sproingie: xfd caches a lot in ram though
[06:02] <Bevin> xfs
[06:02] <chrissturm> bevin: i think it too exotic. you are more likely to run into problems that noone filed before if you run a distro on a filesystem that it doesnt use by default
[06:02] <sproingie> Bevin: oh i don't really trust reiser either.  if that filesystem gets any errors, the whole partition is probably gone
[06:02] <mwe> sproingie: it uses heavy caching though so data loss is very likely on power failures
[06:02] <Bevin> sproingie: yeah, that's what happened once
[06:02] <tafsen> Does the Ubuntu live cd include any partition programs?
[06:03] <chrissturm> bevin: on the other hand the reiserfs people were very helpful when i had lost some data
[06:03] <Bevin> sproingie: but I had an unrepearable ext3 partition before too
[06:03] <bSON> tafsen: that's planned for dapper as far as i know
[06:03] <ktogias> tafsen, I sould have fdisk....
[06:03] <sproingie> mwe: my desktop use patterns include long enough pauses that it can typically keep the buffer flushed
[06:03] <Bevin> people should port ZFS to linux :-)
[06:03] <Bevin> anybody using JFS?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> BeOSFS
[06:03] <mwe> sproingie: good for you then :)
[06:04] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows how to install the xmms-perl??
[06:04] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: have you seen the new Solaris ZFS file system?
[06:04] <mwe> sproingie: I see no reason to run the risk though
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Bevin,  nope - i aint that big a nerd. :P
[06:04] <thierry_> Inf3ctedFx : if it's in universe then "sudo apt-get install xmms-perl"
[06:04] <chrissturm> bevin: you could use nexenta
[06:04] <Inf3ctedFx> I did  thierry_  but it wont get any package
[06:04] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/demos/
[06:05] <Bevin> Dr_Willis: check that out
[06:05] <Bevin> chrissturm: what's that?
[06:05] <thierry_> Inf3ctedFx : do you have the universe urls added to your sources.list?
[06:05] <chrissturm> bevin: debian with solaris kernel
[06:05] <Bevin> chrissturm: I also have opensolaris running
[06:05] <Bevin> chrissturm: quite nice
[06:05] <Inf3ctedFx> mm I dont really know... xD thierry_  do u have the line??
[06:05] <Bevin> chrissturm: just that wireless, sound and bluetooth don't work :-/
[06:06] <chrissturm> hehe
[06:06] <Bevin> chrissturm: for the rest it's a pretty Gnome 2.12 desktop
[06:07] <chrissturm> anyone know a tutorial how to do remote X11 from osx to a ubuntu box?
[06:07] <mwe> Bevin: just wifi sound and bluetooth. who cares about that crap? :)
[06:07] <yatesy> ssh -X
[06:07] <Bevin> chrissturm: apple's X should just work
[06:07] <Bevin> chrissturm: I used that a while ago with Gentoo
[06:07] <Inf3ctedFx> thierry_:  do u have the universal line for the sources.list?
[06:08] <JoeBlow> when i boot using the install cd, when it goes into my partitions, it doesnt read the partitions on one of my harddrives, it just shows the harddrive name and size
[06:08] <PaKeT_> cls
[06:09] <JoeBlow> anyone ever seen this before?
[06:09] <JoeBlow> when i go in with live cd, i can mount and browse all my paritions on that drive
[06:09] <mikex> need help with a broadcom wireless card
[06:09] <mwe> isn't OSX based on linux?
[06:09] <irvin> mwe, no
[06:09] <JoeBlow> mwe, i think its unix
[06:10] <mwe> JoeBlow: do you what unix then?
[06:10] <JoeBlow> mwe, no, i want ubuntu
[06:10] <mikex> followed the how to. wireless light is on but does not show in networking
[06:10] <JoeBlow> mwe, but it is giving me trouble with install
[06:10] <ColonelPanique> OS X is based upon FreeBSD
[06:11] <DonVincenzo> how can I configure an ethernet connexion without using pppoeconf nor a graphic interface ?
[06:11] <thierry_> Inf3ctedFx : do you speak french? I found about 10 howto in french on what and where to add this
[06:11] <Xenguy> DonVincenzo: pppoeconf is the easiest way IMO
[06:11] <Inf3ctedFx> not really thierry_  I speak bad english and spanish xD
[06:11] <JoeBlow> has anyone had an error installing ubuntu where it doesnt read the partitions on a drive
[06:12] <DonVincenzo> Xenguy: it does not work on my macjine
[06:12] <ROBOd> guys how to get gcc 3.4.5 ?
[06:12] <irvin> thierry_, add what?
[06:12] <thierry_> Inf3ctedFx : I would say search in google with english option something like "sources.list universe ubuntu" and I'm sure you'll find what you want
[06:12] <meepy> Anyone got experience with Eggdrop?
[06:12] <Xenguy> DonVincenzo: is it something specific?
[06:12] <irvin> !repositories
[06:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:12] <mwe> ROBOd: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[06:12] <thierry_> irvin : the universe repositories stuff in the sources.list for apt-get
[06:12] <Xenguy> ROBOd: packages.ubuntu.com  ?
[06:13] <piernik> I can't open acroread. I klick the icon, see a slpash and it's over  :(   How to fix it?
[06:13] <ROBOd> mwe: i have gcc 4.0.2 already installed
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> Hold on thierry_  I think I got it
[06:13] <Xenguy> piernik: xpdf is your best bet
[06:13] <ROBOd> mwe: is it possible to have multiple versions installed?
[06:13] <DonVincenzo> I am using a router modem, but I can not configure it. With gentoo, I was able to setup it configuring /etc/conf.d/net, which does not exist in my Ubuntu distribution
[06:13] <ROBOd> mwe: or do i have to uninstall gcc 4 first?
[06:13] <irvin> tell Inf3ctedFx about repositories
[06:13] <piernik> no it isn't
[06:13] <irvin> !tell Inf3ctedFx about repositories
[06:14] <Xenguy> ROBOd: I was able to have 2 different versions installed
[06:14] <ROBOd> Xenguy: so ... doing sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 is safe?
[06:14] <Xenguy> ROBOd: AFAIK you just need to set an environmental variable after installing, to use an older version
[06:14] <JoeBlow> no ideas for the ubuntu installer not reading partitions
[06:15] <Xenguy> ROBOd: it should be; make sure that it is not going to remove anything important, that's all
[06:15] <Xenguy> ROBOd: you can always abort if it looks dodgey
[06:15] <DonVincenzo> is there an equivalent of gentoo /etc/conf.d/net in ubuntu ?
[06:16] <irvin> JoeBlow, what does mount say?
[06:16] <Xenguy> ROBOd: anyway, it worked for me (I had to compile NVIDIA drivers for my new box)
[06:16] <JoeBlow> irvin, mount works fine through live cd
[06:17] <irvin> JoeBlow, if the live cd can see it then the installer can too. maybe you just need to manually mount the partition or add them to /etc/fstab
[06:17] <JoeBlow> irvin, when i go to the installer, it just says maxtor 82gb xxxxxxx or whatever
[06:18] <JoeBlow> irvin, normally the install cd sees it fine
[06:18] <s_spiff> hello
[06:18] <JoeBlow> irvin, i was having trouble with booting into ubuntu as well, that was why i was reinstalling, but I have through live cd browsed my root partition
[06:19] <lsuactiafner> Xenguy : the nvidia.com drivers you compile yourself works better imho
[06:19] <mahangu__> is there an easy way to edit my bootsplash?
[06:19] <PaKeT_> hey guyz, can anyone help me please???
[06:19] <Razor-X> when compiling Xpdf, doesen't Xm live in /usr/X11R6/include/Xm and Freetype lives in /usr/include/freetype2/freetype ?
[06:19] <s_spiff> ?
[06:19] <Papageno> How do I mount a usb drive? I do not want any auto-mount or gui tools.
[06:19] <ColonelPanique> !anyone
[06:19] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[06:19] <lsuactiafner> PaKeT_ : just ask!
[06:19] <mase> how do i refresh fstab?
[06:19] <seven_six_two> I tried to install ubuntu breezy on a laptop with xp, and now I get grub error 16 when I try to boot. I looked for a cause, but I'm at a loss. I remember the error from when I first tried to dual, but I don't remember the solution. any ideas?
[06:19] <s_spiff> can someone tell me what does the X11R6 folder contain? what is it?
[06:19] <lsuactiafner> mase : you dont
[06:19] <mase> well how then
[06:19] <Razor-X> Papageno: ``sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1'' where /mnt/sda1 is an existing mount point
[06:20] <lsuactiafner> mase : you just mount -a actually i think
[06:20] <PaKeT_> what is the command to change folder privilages from root to current user??
[06:20] <Razor-X> PaKeT_: chmod
[06:20] <s_spiff> Razor-X, how do i mount somthing at boot up?
[06:20] <lsuactiafner> chown user.user * (edc.edc)
[06:20] <s_spiff>  as in i have a hdd  [ master ]  partition hda7
[06:20] <s_spiff> fat 32
[06:20] <PaKeT_> Razor-X, can you please be more specific??
[06:21] <s_spiff>  i want it to be mounted at startup
[06:21] <bina> how do you stop KDE from automatically opening CDs in konqueror?
[06:21] <s_spiff>  how do i do it?
[06:21] <lsuactiafner> chmod changes permisssions
[06:21] <Razor-X> s_spiff: if it's mounted, take a look at your mtab and copy that line into your fstab
[06:21] <lsuactiafner> chown changes users
[06:21] <s_spiff> ok
[06:21] <Papageno> Razor-X: How do I create the mount point? I create a dir first?
[06:21] <mase> !winmac_fstab
[06:21] <ubotu> I don't know, mase
[06:21] <Razor-X> oh wait, change users? yeah, that's chown
[06:21] <mase> where do i get winmac_fstab
[06:21] <Inf3ctedFx> hey this is the other problem that I got  jezzzz  -->  Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:21] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[06:22] <Razor-X> chown -R is for folders, generally
[06:22] <Chousuke> C-O-L-T: ok :P
[06:22] <ColonelPanique> C-O-L-T : auto-aways == booooo!
[06:22] <s_spiff> brb
[06:22] <ROBOd> Xenguy: doing apt-get install gcc-3.4 will retrieve gcc-3.4.4 for my breezy distribution
[06:22] <Razor-X> Papageno: yeah, exactly
[06:22] <Razor-X> Papageno: in this case ``mkdir /mnt/sda1''
[06:22] <ROBOd> but my kernel is compiled with gcc 3.4.5
[06:22] <mase> where do i get winmac_fstab
[06:23] <lsuactiafner> ROBOd : try apt-get install build-essentials
[06:23] <mase> where do i get winmac_fstab
[06:23] <Papageno> Razor-X: Yup, thanks. Works.
[06:23] <ROBOd> i saw there's gcc3.4.5 in dapper distro ...
[06:23] <Razor-X> Papageno: cool
[06:23] <ROBOd> would it be save to install that?
[06:23] <Inf3ctedFx> ROBOd:  r u trying to install VMWare?
[06:23] <Razor-X> ugghh, xpdf just won't compile
[06:23] <ROBOd> Inf3ctedFx: that too :P
[06:23] <bshumate> !tell mase about diskmounter
[06:23] <Inf3ctedFx> I did it not to long ago
[06:24] <rc> hi! can someone tell me what the syntax for greater than is?
[06:24] <ROBOd> Inf3ctedFx: but i also tried installing the official nvidia drivers
[06:24] <lsuactiafner> Razor-X : its in apt?
[06:24] <ColonelPanique> rc: >
[06:24] <ColonelPanique> rc: ;-P
[06:24] <meepy> i heard you can use checkinstall instead of "make install" right?
[06:24] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: yeah... but I've been having problems with the apt version after a breezy upgrade
[06:24] <Inf3ctedFx> ROBOd:  i did it just like this:  apt-get install nvidia
[06:24] <Razor-X> meepy: yeah, ``sudo checkinstall'' should work out fine
[06:25] <rc> colonel: isnt that stdout redirection?
[06:25] <meepy> Thanks!
[06:25] <JoeBlow> I hate windows
[06:25] <meepy> :)
[06:25] <Razor-X> lsuactiafner: I've even tried a statically linked binary and that's having the same problems, I'm going to try and compile as a last resort
[06:25] <Inf3ctedFx> ROBOd:  http://ark.blogspirit.com/archive/2005/12/14/nvidia-ubuntu-breezy.html
[06:25] <ColonelPanique> rc: it is also greater than !  you can use -gt in some case too though
[06:25] <_damn_> any good games for linux
[06:26] <JoeBlow> after i installed windows, my grub got messed up beyond fixing, ubuntu, cant find my partitions on a drive, and it turned one of my drives into raw, and i lost 160 gigs of media
[06:26] <lsuactiafner> _damn_ : same ones thats good for windows
[06:26] <ColonelPanique> rc: man test for examples
[06:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _damn_ about games
[06:26] <_damn_> :D
[06:26] <mase> !root
[06:26] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:26] <ryancasimiro_> colonel: i tried using -gt and it gave me the error "unary operator expected"
[06:27] <ryancasimiro_> actually, it was when i used -lt that i experienced the error
[06:27] <ColonelPanique> marcin`: you're using it incorrectly then
[06:27] <renis> hola
[06:27] <ROBOd> thanks dude
[06:27] <marcin`> ColonelPanique: ?
[06:27] <ROBOd> the Ubuntu Wiki also really helpful
[06:27] <ColonelPanique> marcin`: that, or you don't have an integer on both sides of the -gt
[06:28] <ROBOd> gotta go now :)
[06:28] <ROBOd> bye
[06:28] <_damn_> bye
[06:28] <ColonelPanique> marcin`: err that was supposed to go to you: that, or you don't have an integer on both sides of the -gt
[06:28] <marcin`> ColonelPanique: are you sure that you want to talk to me?
[06:28] <ryancasimiro_> colonel: i dont see anything wrong
[06:28] <ryancasimiro_> if [ $x -lt $y ]  <- is this correct syntax?
[06:29] <theine> Hi, there is a type in texinfo.postinst (texinfo version 4.8-3). In line 56, `update_ls_files' should read `update_lsr_files'
[06:29] <ColonelPanique> ryancasimiro_ : arghhh... nick changing!  yeah, that is right, but you know what?  one of either $x, or $y is not getting set to an integer value, and that is why you're getting the error
[06:30] <AndyR> hi all
[06:30] <theine> typo
[06:30] <_damn_> hi
[06:30] <ColonelPanique> ryancasimiro_ : best to take this kinda crap to #bash homey
[06:30] <_damn_> ok
[06:30] <Inf3ctedFx> Hey ppl, I'm trying to install the xmms-perl but it said E: Couldn't find package xmms-perl
[06:30] <mase> !skype
[06:30] <ryancasimiro_> colonel: how do i do that?
[06:30] <ubotu> skype is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[06:30] <ColonelPanique> ryancasimiro_ : do what? ask people in #bash?  type: /join #bash
[06:31] <AndyR> is there a correct way to copy all /home to a new install on a different computer?
[06:31] <Zoohouse> hello everyone. I am running ubuntu 5.10 and I get this error when I try to build my docbook index: htdig failed
[06:31] <ryancasimiro_> ok! thnx colonel!
[06:31] <Zoohouse> Whats the problem?
[06:31] <ColonelPanique> ryancasimiro_ : sure thing mon!
[06:31] <mase> can i download skype debian package and install on kubuntu? or will i have problems?
[06:32] <Inf3ctedFx> Hey ppl, I'm trying to install the xmms-perl but it said E: Couldn't find package xmms-perl
[06:32] <cleo> mase: take seveas repository for skype package
[06:33] <kameron> mas: you will have problems. the deb package is broken, it's dependent on a library that does not exist.
[06:33] <bshumate> Inf3ctedFx: try: sudo apt-get install libxmms-perl instead ;-)
[06:33] <Inf3ctedFx> add this lines to ur sources.list cleo -->  # Seveas' packages (packages, GPG key: 1135D466)
[06:33] <Inf3ctedFx> #deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[06:33] <Inf3ctedFx> deb http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/  ubuntu-seveas freenx
[06:33] <Inf3ctedFx> # Seveas' packages (sources, GPG key: 1135D466)
[06:33] <Inf3ctedFx> deb-src http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[06:34] <Inf3ctedFx> ok bshumate
[06:34] <Inf3ctedFx> sorry for the flood :(
[06:34] <kameron> !paste
[06:34] <ubotu> somebody said paste was please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:34] <cleo> Inf3ctedFx: mase needs it, not me
[06:34] <Inf3ctedFx> ohh oks cleo  sorry
[06:35] <Korupt> does seveas have ff1.5?
[06:42] <fabio> !w32codecs
[06:42] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:43] <FeestBijtje> I fukin hate compiling
[06:43] <FeestBijtje> lol
[06:43] <FeestBijtje> Can some one help me installing AMSN?
[06:43] <drayen> Hey, i think i may have killed my external hard disk, its formated useing ext3, but it wont mount and e2fsck -b 8193 <device> doenst work... is there any more heavy duty / altervative tools for data recovery? i know the drive is working as i can see it in drive management...
[06:44] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: where's the problem with amsn?
[06:44] <polpak> FeestBijtje: why not gaim?
[06:44] <FeestBijtje> I must compile it but it dousnt compile no matter what i am doing its saying i am missing some thing with APT-Get is toolazy to get
[06:44] <theguy> hello
[06:45] <theguy> Can I asume that the broken OpenOffice and broken Ubuntu desktop thing is common?
[06:45] <theguy> becasue it has happend on two computers
[06:45] <polpak> theguy: what do you mean 'broken'
[06:46] <kameron> FeestBijtje: get the ubuntu package instead of compiling, it works great
[06:46] <polpak> !info amsn
[06:46] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[06:46] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: did you checked the forum? there's a good guide for the cvs
[06:46] <FeestBijtje> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75276 <= i am following that tutorial
[06:46] <theguy> every time I do a fesh install of ubuntu, i get "You have two borken packes" message
[06:46] <tafsen> Can anyone tell witch program I can use to add unpartitioned space to my Ubuntu partition?
[06:46] <barry> messenger7julie
[06:46] <NoWhereMan> polpak: it's too old the one on the repo
[06:46] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, well 1st command brings me already trouble 1st time no prob
[06:46] <theguy> and they are always OpenOffice (paticiualy writer) and ubuntu desktop
[06:46] <FeestBijtje> now its a big prob
[06:46] <fade> tafsen -- gnu parted
[06:47] <Xenguy> lsuactiafner: I couldn't get the apt-get'able nvidia drivers to work (but I expect they'll be included soon enough)
[06:47] <Korupt> <annoyed rant> I'm pretty sure at this point I'm going to grow old and die before the Ubuntu devs switch to FF1.5
[06:47] <polpak> Korupt: you going to die in 3 months?
[06:47] <FeestBijtje> feestbijtje@FeestBijtje:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential tcl8.4-dev tk8.4-dev imlib11-dev esound-clients
[06:47] <FeestBijtje> Reading package lists... Done
[06:47] <FeestBijtje> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:47] <FeestBijtje> E: Couldn't find package imlib11-dev
[06:48] <kameron> FeestBijtje: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/amsn/amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb?download
[06:48] <FeestBijtje> E: Couldn't find package imlib11-dev
[06:48] <Korupt> are there any debian sources out there for FF1.5?
[06:48] <TheAsp> Where would I get newer debs of the nvidia drivers?
[06:48] <polpak> !ff1.5
[06:48] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:48] <Korupt> polpak..... I could kiss you
[06:48] <Korupt> again
[06:48] <polpak> ;p
[06:48] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: looks like you don't have any deb-src repository, do you?
[06:48] <Luixs> como me brinco al irc en espaol
[06:48] <polpak> !es
[06:48] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:49] <FeestBijtje> wb kameron
[06:49] <Luixs> Join #ubuntu -es
[06:49] <kameron> Feestbijtje: wb?
[06:49] <Luixs> Joined #ubuntu -es
[06:49] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, i just did an clean install
[06:49] <Luixs> 
[06:49] <FeestBijtje> kameron, wb = Welcome Back
[06:49] <Razor-X> kameron: welcome back
[06:49] <polpak> Luixs: try  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:49] <kameron> Feestbijtje: oh, okay. thanks. i had a kde crash.. again.
[06:49] <FeestBijtje> WBB = Welcome Back Biatch
[06:50] <Razor-X> it's one of those AOL greetings, like re :P
[06:50] <kameron> lol.
[06:50] <FeestBijtje> KDE is unstable last few month's idd <_<
[06:50] <kameron> my kicker keeps crashing.
[06:50] <kameron> i think it's called kicker. the panel deal.
[06:50] <fade> 're' is auld irc speak. ;)
[06:50] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: a clean install... so you mean you don't? :p
[06:50] <tafsen> fade: do you know the command?
[06:50] <FeestBijtje> okay
[06:50] <duckx0r> is there a way in apt-get to upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu? i'm using 5.04
[06:50] <Korupt> FeestBijtje, don't get me started..... have you tried installing kubuntu? right now I'mamazed it even runs
[06:50] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, you got a big gun? shoot me :)
[06:51] <polpak> !breezy
[06:51] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:51] <kameron> duckx0r: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:51] <FeestBijtje> Korupt, i am on ubuntu
[06:51] <duckx0r> ty guys
[06:51] <FeestBijtje> And not verry awake
[06:51] <kameron> oh wait, no. i think that just upgrades everything in your distro..
[06:51] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: ehe, so that was the problem?
[06:51] <nerezus> hi
[06:51] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, i want to use AMSN but its bitching at me
[06:51] <polpak> duckx0r: just follow the wiki
[06:51] <polpak> duckx0r: it always knows =)
[06:51] <duckx0r> kameron, i'll just read that url ubotu gave me
[06:51] <FeestBijtje> follow the wiki wiki follow the wiki
[06:52] <Fade> tafsen: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html
[06:52] <kameron> duckx0r: good call
[06:52] <Razor-X> Fade: hmmm, I've never really seen it on many IRC channels, but whatever
[06:52] <kameron> duckx0r: im reading it too. i am right, just just need to change repositories.
[06:53] <Fade> Razor-X: it's shorthand for 're-join' or 're-emerge' etc.
[06:53] <FeestBijtje> ARG!
[06:53] <Bevin> don't you just hate it when you download the live cd while you needed the install cd
[06:54] <kameron> Bevin: uhhh, haha. i guess it could happen to the best of us.
[06:54] <Razor-X> Fade: yeah, but it can also be reply, or resubmit, or simply the prefix re
[06:54] <tafsen> Fade: it looks kind of tough for me, isn't there anything easyer?
[06:54] <FeestBijtje> Selecting previously deselected package amsn.
[06:54] <FeestBijtje> (Reading database ... 58519 files and directories currently installed.)
[06:54] <FeestBijtje> Unpacking amsn (from amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb) ...
[06:54] <FeestBijtje> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of amsn:
[06:54] <FeestBijtje>  amsn depends on tcltls; however:
[06:54] <FeestBijtje>   Package tcltls is not installed.
[06:54] <FeestBijtje> dpkg: error processing amsn (--install):
[06:54] <FeestBijtje>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:54] <FeestBijtje> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:54] <polpak> FeestBijtje: don't paste in here
[06:54] <seven_six_two> i'm still getting grub error 16. I tried using the live cd and chrooting to / and running grub-install, but it didn't change anything   :(
[06:54] <Fade> tafsen: lol
[06:54] <kremonte> !tell FeestBijtje about paste
[06:54] <kameron> Bevin: i once downloaded and tried to install a PPC version on my x86.. i swore it said PC, and not PPC. it was a late night.
[06:54] <FeestBijtje> .deb were so easy one's in the past
[06:54] <Bevin> kameron: lol :-)
[06:55] <Bevin> kameron: anyway, I'll pass it one to a friend so that he can try linux out
[06:55] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: I think there is an option for dpkg to solve dependencies but I don't remember it right now
[06:55] <Fade> you can install the parted packages and go from there. There may even be some graphical front ends for the parted libraries. Dunno.
[06:55] <Bevin> s/one/on/
[06:55] <kameron> Bevin: good idea
[06:55] <tafsen> fade: im a n00b
[06:55] <Fade> backup all your important stuff before you start screwing around with parted. :)
[06:55] <Fade> partition magic is a commercial product that does the same thing.
[06:55] <kameron> seven_six_two: should work..
[06:56] <freeman> hello
[06:56] <Fade> it has a click 'n drool interface, so you might be happier with that.
[06:56] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, polpak  kremonte kameron: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6750
[06:56] <freeman> someone to try gnoma meeting please ?
[06:56] <seven_six_two> kameron: perhaps it should, but it didn't
[06:56] <polpak> Fade: there's also gparted and qtparted for your gui partition editing needs
[06:56] <Razor-X> Fade: I trust my data to nothing but Partition Magic :) (although it isn't the dumbed down Symantec one)
[06:56] <kameron> FeestBijtje: i haven't pasted anything man
[06:57] <kameron> freeman: yeah, i've been wanting to try it too.
[06:57] <polpak> kameron:  he wants you to look at his error
[06:57] <FeestBijtje> kameron, check the link what ive pasted
[06:57] <seven_six_two> oh well. I guess I can't use ubuntu
[06:57] <matt_> Hi!
[06:57] <kameron> FeestBijtje: oh, wtf. i thought you akdfa.sd ... okay nevermind.
[06:57] <ubuntu_zol> hi
[06:57] <kameron> seven_six_two: are you on amd64 or x86?
[06:58] <seven_six_two> x86
[06:58] <matt_> I have a problem with a dlink router!
[06:58] <kameron> seven_six_two: hmm, i had a lot of troubles with grub on my amd64 and ended up installing lilo.
[06:58] <matt_> when installing ubuntu using a linksys router it installs fine, but not with a dlink router!
[06:59] <Fade> kameron: were you booting from a reiserfs partition?
[06:59] <kameron> Feestbijtje: is that the package i linked you to?
[06:59] <kameron> Fade: ext3
[06:59] <FeestBijtje> yes thats ur package
[06:59] <seven_six_two> the ubuntu installer didn't give me a choice. I could try expert install
[06:59] <polpak> matt_: do you have a wireless connection?
[06:59] <Fade> the only time I've had problems with grub on amd64 was trying to boot from reiserfs.
[06:59] <NoWhereMan> guys how do you fetch dependencies with dpkg?
[06:59] <Fade> although the problem was transient, and I haven't seen it in some time.
[06:59] <JoeBlow> Damn it feels good to be gangsta
[06:59] <JoeBlow> lo
[06:59] <JoeBlow> l
[07:00] <kameron> Feestbijtje: you need the tcl package, amsn requires it. sudo apt-get install tcltls
[07:00] <seven_six_two> i'm trying to dual, installed grub on mbr, and my linux partition is ext3
[07:00] <JoeBlow> my 80 gig maxtor died, 4 days after warranty
[07:00] <JoeBlow> justnow
[07:00] <Razor-X> .... I would request everyone follows the CoC and refrain from kicking anyone's anything
[07:00] <matt_> Polpak - yes, but it also has a problem with LAN
[07:00] <JoeBlow> seven_six_two, alright, whats the problem
[07:00] <JoeBlow> seven_six_two, installed linux, THEN windows, and now u cant go into linux?
[07:00] <kameron> JoeBlow: ouch!!
[07:00] <FeestBijtje> kameron, i remember that i installed that last time but the error was diffrence
[07:01] <polpak> JoeBlow: you need to reinstall grub
[07:01] <kameron> Feestbijtje: the error right now is that amsn depends on that package. is it installed?
[07:01] <polpak> JoeBlow: windows blew away your mbr
[07:01] <JoeBlow> kameron, yea, i lost 13 seasons of the simpsons
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:01] <kameron> JoeBlow: double ouch!!
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> "doh!"
[07:01] <JoeBlow> polpak, im helping someone out, i was just repeating their problem, im good
[07:01] <seven_six_two> JoeBlow, no. xp pro was there
[07:01] <lucky> hi guys.  I mounted my NTFS windows partition but only root can access the files, is there any way i can change the permissions so a normal user can read/write the files?
[07:01] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: if you haven't gotten rid of the Windows partition, it's all still there
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:01] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:01] <JoeBlow> seven_six_two, ok so whats wrong?
[07:01] <seven_six_two> installed ubuntu into last 4gb of drive
[07:02] <matt_> polpak - its not a wireless problem - does adept use port 80 or another port - do you know?
[07:02] <JoeBlow> razor-X , windows partition, lol, i threw the drive out the window
[07:02] <seven_six_two> but now neither will boot, and getting GRUB error 16
[07:02] <lucky> Dr_Willis thanks
[07:02] <FeestBijtje> kameron, Houston we've got an problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6751
[07:02] <polpak> matt_: no it doesn't. It just connects out
[07:02] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: *ahem*
[07:02] <matt_> then thats strange!
[07:02] <steve12> hey
[07:02] <kameron> i have about 200gb of movies, music, backups, etc, on an NTFS partition. i'd like to convert it to ext3. how would i do that? or would it be best to dd it to another drive, and reformat, then put data back on?
[07:02] <steve12> can i successfully update ubuntu hoary to the breezey
[07:02] <JoeBlow> razor-X , i dunno, i would follow the reinstalling grub instructions using the live cd, i was getting grub errors, and what happened was, a harddrive died, 10 minutes ago
[07:03] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: meh
[07:03] <polpak> matt_: I'd suggest trying a live cd and see if you can connect to the outside
[07:03] <kameron> Feestbijtje: do you have multiverse, universe, etc, all in your sources.list ?
[07:03] <seven_six_two> this hd still works fine. I just used it this morning
[07:03] <Fade> kameron -- back it up to another disk, but don't use dd
[07:03] <JoeBlow> razor-X , dude, it was dead
[07:03] <FeestBijtje> *suicides*
[07:03] <kameron> Fade: use what?
[07:03] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: I understand
[07:04] <matt_> also when installing debian again the dlink wont allow the install to fetch updates but the linksys will!
[07:04] <Fade> cpio is a good choice for that.
[07:04] <JoeBlow> razor-X , installing windows finally killed it, and now im gonna get billy boy
[07:04] <Fade> so is tar.
[07:04] <Razor-X> you may want to throw it in the freezer, take it out, and dd the thing
[07:04] <FeestBijtje> kameron, you mean the extra respons... thingy's
[07:04] <steve12> It will work?
[07:04] <polpak> matt_: I think there's a problem with the dlink.. not with the installer
[07:04] <Korupt> polpak, what package has libstdc++5?
[07:04] <matt_> i agree
[07:04] <kameron> Feestbijtje: repositories, yes
[07:04] <JoeBlow> razor-X , Im gonna do the same thing the UN would do, be very very angry, and write him a letter telling him how im angry
[07:04] <kameron> !tell FeestBijtje about repositories
[07:04] <matt_> I wondered what was special about the installation or adept when connecting to the internet
[07:04] <JoeBlow> razor-X, weird idea
[07:05] <JoeBlow> razor-X, does it really work?
[07:05] <Fade> if you use dd, you'll end up with an image of an ntfs partition, complete with geometry and everything.
[07:05] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: it does
[07:05] <matt_> that is allowed by the linksys but not the dlink
[07:05] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: I've recovered stuff like that
[07:05] <kameron> !tell FeestBijtje about easysource
[07:05] <duckx0r> i'm trying to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10, but when I do `apt-get dist-upgrade` it wants to uninstall kubuntu-desktop... is there a way around this so that I don't lose everything?
[07:05] <polpak> Korupt: dunno
[07:05] <JoeBlow> razor-X, thats pretty cool
[07:05] <polpak> duckx0r: you can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop.
[07:05] <steve12> HEY guys, how do i get my wireless working??
[07:05] <Fade> which is why dd is the simplest way to make an iso9660 image of a cdrom: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/ubuntu-breezy.iso bs=512
[07:05] <kameron> duckx0r: you can reinstall it later.
[07:05] <duckx0r> polpak, will i lost all the settings?
[07:05] <polpak> duckx0r: removing it won't kill anything
[07:06] <duckx0r> oh ok ty guys
[07:06] <polpak> duckx0r: no, those are in your home directory
[07:06] <kameron> duckx0r: i don't think so, it's in your home directory
[07:06] <kameron> polpak, you're too quick man :P
[07:06] <steve12> I dont understand the proccess of making the pc understand it's there
[07:06] <polpak> kameron: =)
[07:06] <kameron> Fade: cpio or tar.. okay thanks bud.
[07:07] <Fade> n'p
[07:07] <AngryAngryHippos> hey
[07:07] <AngryAngryHippos> any ubuntu gurus around?
[07:07] <duckx0r> nope
[07:07] <Fade> is it a trick question? :)
[07:07] <steve12> lol
[07:07] <AngryAngryHippos> haha
[07:07] <AngryAngryHippos> I understand you're looking for LTSP testers
[07:08] <Korupt> polpak can you post that FF1.5 link again?
[07:08] <Inf3ctedFx> Does anyone knows how to make it work the xmms2? or how to make it run?
[07:08] <Fade> mmmmmm teh lisp is the tru path.
[07:08] <polpak> !ff1.5
[07:08] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:08] <Fade> unfortunately sbcl is currently broken. =(
[07:08] <julio> Hi
[07:08] <ksmurf> anyone running dapper having issues with the gnome main-menu
[07:08] <Fade> clisp and gcl appear to work, though.
[07:09] <JoeBlow> !kubuntu
[07:09] <ubotu> kubuntu is, like, Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[07:09] <julio> I hve instatalled here in my CEDEGA PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 and COUNTER STRIKE 1.6.. but when i click in the exe of that two, anything do!
[07:09] <steve12> i want my wireless working
[07:09] <kameron> julio: you can try #ubuntu-pt
[07:09] <Fade> but I don't know anything about a request for LISP testers, above and beyond the fact that testers are always welcome.
[07:09] <steve12> but i dont know how to enable dhcp, or even get it to work... It's a ibm r40 and it's detected but network gives me only eth0 which is the RJ45
[07:09] <gnomefreak> did you read the wiki on wifi?
[07:10] <ompaul> AngryAngryHippos, may I suggest that you check out #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-devel one of those will deal with the LTSP stuff
[07:10] <julio> yes i know kameron
[07:10] <steve12> umm
[07:10] <kameron> julio: okay, just letting you know! :P
[07:10] <gnomefreak> !wifi
[07:10] <julio> but the community of there cant explain anything
[07:10] <ubotu> well, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:10] <steve12> laptop no interneto
[07:10] <julio> xD
[07:10] <julio> I hve instatalled here in my CEDEGA PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 and COUNTER STRIKE 1.6.. but when i click in the exe of that two, anything do!
[07:10] <steve12> thank u
[07:10] <AngryAngryHippos> ok thx ompaul
[07:10] <ksmurf> steve 12 what type of lappy
[07:10] <ompaul> AngryAngryHippos, thank you for hanging around long enough for someone to be able to catch up on conversation :-)
[07:11] <julio> if i copy the WINDOWS folder of the WINDOWS XP and put in the cedega.. my games function ok?
[07:11] <FeestBijtje> joy!
[07:11] <polpak> julio: I don't think that's advisable
[07:11] <ompaul> AngryAngryHippos, we have had people leave inside 30 seconds rare but it happens :) did not expect such a result given the subject matter
[07:12] <julio> hm.. my friends did it.. they saied of the game function xD
[07:12] <julio> polpak: I hve instatalled here in my CEDEGA PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 5 and COUNTER STRIKE 1.6.. but when i click in the exe of that two, anything do!
[07:12] <polpak> julio: well you're welcome to try it I suppose
[07:12] <polpak> julio: I certainly don't have any alternative suggestions
[07:13] <julio> polpak: But you think of it function?
[07:13] <TheAsp> julio: some games work, some don't
[07:13] <ksmurf> anyone running dapper having issues with the gnome main-menu.  I'm just trying to confirm b4 writing a bug
[07:13] <julio> TheAsp
[07:13] <steve12> how safe is it going from hoary to breezy
[07:13] <polpak> steve12: pretty safe
[07:13] <ksmurf> steve very safe
[07:13] <steve12> so
[07:13] <polpak> ubotu tell steve12 about breezy
[07:13] <julio> But in one time i can play... but nao NO
[07:13] <drayen> help! i seem to have corrupted both the primary and alternate superblocks on my external 160gb ext3 hard disk, i've tried running e2fsck /dev/sda1 and with -b 8193, but both tell me the superblock is corrupt? ???? help
[07:14] <Kindred> julio you could always try #cedega I guess
[07:14] <Fade> copying your windowsxp windows folder into the cedega directory in your $HOME won't work... it's probably a good way to break things.
[07:14] <FeestBijtje> Every thing works as it worked :)
[07:14] <julio> yes.. but the people there DONT HELP!
[07:14] <steve12> umm do I not just install some new sources and type sudo apt-get upgrade?
[07:14] <julio> Kindred: But the people there dont helo
[07:14] <julio> help
[07:14] <FeestBijtje> kameron, That was the fuckin problem :) ty for the help *hug*
[07:14] <polpak> steve12: read the wiki
[07:14] <steve12> Darn Intelligent AIs here polpak
[07:14] <steve12> polpak: thank u
[07:14] <kameron> steve12: you install sources, and type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:14] <polpak> steve12: sure
[07:15] <kameron> !tell steve about breezy
[07:15] <ompaul> !upgrade
[07:15] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:15] <polpak> kameron: I did that already =0
[07:15] <kameron> steve: read that
[07:15] <steve12> nononono i'm there Dude :P
[07:15] <ompaul> steve that should help you
[07:15] <ksmurf> http://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=Main_Page
[07:15] <kameron> polpak: slow down mang!!! haha.
[07:15] <kameron> FeestBijtje: anytime buddddy. the new 1.95 is REALLY nice, i like it a lot.
[07:15] <Fade> when you add a new source to /etc/apt/sources.list you have to run 'apt-get update' to update the available packages db locally on your machine.
[07:15] <ompaul> FeestBijtje, can you take it easy with the language
[07:15] <ksmurf> julio http://linux.strangegamer.com/index.php?title=Main_Page is a great gaming resource
[07:15] <IdleOne> !tcl
[07:15] <ubotu> IdleOne: Are you smoking crack?
[07:16] <IdleOne> heh
[07:16] <Fade> then you can run the upgrade with the new sources.
[07:16] <IdleOne> seems I am
[07:16] <ompaul> IdleOne, the answer is !yes
[07:16] <ksmurf> IdleOne Share?
[07:16] <Kindred> !crack
[07:16] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[07:16] <julio> hm..
[07:16] <mondi> anyone here use newton?
[07:16] <IdleOne> !weed
[07:16] <ubotu> Not a clue, IdleOne
[07:17] <ksmurf> !yes
[07:17] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, ksmurf?
[07:17] <FeestBijtje> kameron,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102299&highlight=AMSN <= use that if ur lazy ;)
[07:17] <xandrix> sorry guys i have a slite problem im denied even as sudo or root i cant access anything thats on localhost
[07:17] <polpak> mondi: I've looked at it.. Haven't tried it yet
[07:17] <FeestBijtje> i know ive worked with the newest CVS version
[07:17] <polpak> xandrix: anything like... ?
[07:17] <xandrix> ssh wont even work on localhost
[07:17] <mondi> what do u guys use for desktop wiki?
[07:17] <polpak> xandrix: did you install the daemon?
[07:17] <ksmurf> xandrix have u tried going into a single session?
[07:17] <xandrix> anything on localhost trying to access localhost wont work
[07:17] <kameron> FeestBijtje: wow that's REALLY lazy. i didn't think it was very difficult. but i know from past versions that it uses tcl
[07:18] <FeestBijtje> i use wiki as a god its the god of knowlige
[07:18] <julio> hey msn... if i copy my WINDOWS folder of WINDOWS where i put it? and.. if i put in the correct place it function correct?
[07:18] <FeestBijtje> kameron, its like when ur doing it manual onlly automatic :)
[07:18] <xandrix> polpak, yes i did install the deamon
[07:18] <kameron> FeestBijtje: haha, pretty much
[07:18] <mondi> I mean what application do u use for ur desktop wiki?
[07:18] <julio> hey msn... if i copy my WINDOWS folder of WINDOWS where i put it? and.. if i put in the correct place it function correct?
[07:19] <polpak> xandrix: netstat -an | grep listen   does it show port 22 open? and on which IP ?
[07:19] <FeestBijtje> kameron, its precise like: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75276
[07:19] <FeestBijtje> only simpel
[07:19] <FeestBijtje> 4 commands and 1 password and ur on msn
[07:19] <biazinha> ae
[07:19] <biazinha> toda essa galera ai usa ubuntu ?
[07:19] <julio> i have isntaled here in my CEDEGa counter Strike.. but when i click in the COUNTER STRIKE EXE... anything do!!!!!!!!!!!! plz help-me
[07:19] <gnomefreak> still have to pay for chat in msn (chatrooms)
[07:19] <julio> sim biazinha
[07:19] <kameron> FeestBijtje: wow, people are lazy.
[07:19] <julio> mais aqui e uma comunidade internazional
[07:19] <biazinha> alguem pode me ajudar ?
[07:20] <julio> biazinha
[07:20] <xandrix> polpak, bad exemple but when i run kismet it wont connect cuz its denied access to localhost and the port its weird
[07:20] <julio> entre na comunidade #ubuntu-br
[07:20] <biazinha> [[julio] ] : obrigada
[07:20] <julio> a nao ser que voce fale ingles
[07:20] <biazinha> hello
[07:20] <biazinha> somebody here can help me ?
[07:20] <biazinha> please ?
[07:20] <polpak> xandrix: what is kismet?
[07:20] <julio> melhoro xD
[07:20] <steve12> I get a error, I tried entering synaptics but I get
[07:20] <julio> qual teu problema biazinha?
[07:20] <xandrix> polpak, its a wifi sniffer the best one there is
[07:21] <gnomefreak> !br
[07:21] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[07:21] <steve12> Child Terminated with 1 status, what the heck this mean?
[07:21] <biazinha> [julio] : eu instalei esse negocio de linux, e agora nao consigo configurar a webcam
[07:21] <julio> !tell biazinha about ubuntu-br
[07:21] <xandrix> polpak, it runs a server on localhost then the client and gui connects to it from and to localhost but its denied
[07:21] <julio> xD
[07:21] <julio> eu tbm tenhu.. mas ta foda =/
[07:21] <FeestBijtje> kameron, well  i can tell it you verry simple
[07:21] <kameron> who maintains ubotu?
[07:21] <biazinha> [julio] : entra la
[07:21] <polpak> xandrix: and you're sure the server is running and listening on the right port?
[07:21] <kameron> FeestBijtje: tell me what?
[07:21] <xandrix> polpak, yes
[07:22] <julio> !tell biazinha about webcam
[07:22] <polpak> xandrix: what port is it supposed to be on?
[07:22] <FeestBijtje> My face is inside my bed facing an LSD screen and an trackball mouse and an splitted keyboard
[07:22] <xandrix> i straced it and all but iot crashes
[07:22] <xandrix> 2501
[07:22] <marcin`> !tell marcin` about webcam
[07:22] <FeestBijtje> kameron,  Ive build my computer inside my bed so i don't have to stand up early in the morning to get behind my computer
[07:22] <polpak> xandrix: can you pastebin the output of netstat -an | grep LISTEN
[07:22] <biazinha> [julio] : e problema no programa
[07:22] <xandrix> well there is nothing at the moment cuz the server shutsdown if the client cant connect for 30 seconds
[07:22] <kameron> FeestBijtje: i have a laptop in my bathroom on wifi so i can still be on irc.
[07:23] <julio> hm.....
[07:23] <kameron> brb, bathroom
[07:23] <FeestBijtje> That won't beat my camera XD
[07:23] <steve12> am i screwed?
[07:23] <steve12> Child Terminated with 1 status, what the heck this mean?
[07:23] <Kindred> kameron, cafuego maintains ubotu
[07:23] <FeestBijtje> kameron_onthecan, lol
[07:23] <kameron_onthecan> cafuego: thanks
[07:24] <kameron_onthecan> FeestBijtje: :P
[07:24] <jono> hi all
[07:24] <steve12> ok.,,,,,,,,,,,, thank yall for ur help
[07:24] <steve12> i out
[07:24] <jono> is OOo2 in Dapper going to use the GNOME picker by default?
[07:24] <kameron> Kindred: i mean, thanks to you, not cofuego. anyways..
[07:24] <xandrix> polpak, http://pastebin.com/495187
[07:25] <gnomefreak> jono, i would say in ubuntu yes in kubuntu not likely
[07:25] <CanYouHelpMePlz> does anyone know of a linux audio file converter say, ogg to mp3 with a gui for ubuntu?
[07:25] <xandrix> polpak, got that ?
[07:26] <polpak> xandrix: nothing is listening on that port
[07:26] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[07:26] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:26] <xandrix> polpak, omfg i just told u why
[07:26] <xandrix> screw this
[07:26] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:26] <Kindred> well..
[07:26] <gnomefreak> ohwell
[07:27] <polpak> lol
[07:27] <polpak> some people are dumbasses
[07:27] <gnomefreak> 647 feel free to miss what one person says
[07:29] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:29] <JaCk[a] L> hellooooooo
[07:29] <Fade> irc support isn't for people with ADHD and/or low frustration tollerances. ;)
[07:29] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: did you manage to make it work?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> its just with 600 or so people how do you answer everyones questions right away? :(
[07:30] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, yes :)
[07:30] <NoWhereMan> how?
[07:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> does anyone know of a linux audio file converter say, ogg to mp3 with a gui for ubuntu?
[07:31] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, just forgotten to add respos thingy's
[07:31] <NoWhereMan> good :)
[07:31] <JaCk[a] L> i ve trouble with my reporitories!
[07:31] <JaCk[a] L>   i m looking for w32codecs
[07:31] <kameron> CanYouHelpMePlz: why would you want to do that?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> !codecs
[07:31] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[07:31] <biazinha> how configure amsn and webcam  logitec pro 9400 ?
[07:31] <NoWhereMan> FeestBijtje: latest release really rox, CVSs are even better :P
[07:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kameron: because i hav an mp3 playe
[07:31] <deepspaceant> guys is there a way to get bind9 with mysql backend for zones?
[07:32] <kameron> CanYouHelpMePlz: ah, true.
[07:32] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell JaCk[a] L about easysource
[07:32] <FeestBijtje> NoWhereMan, i know check this: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#addrepositories
[07:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kameron: know of any?
[07:32] <FeestBijtje> But i have to go lads :(
[07:32] <FeestBijtje> bye kameron & NoWhereMan
[07:32] <kameron> CanYouHelpMePlz: no, but im looking
[07:32] <kameron> Feestbijtje: take care man! see ya again.
[07:32] <NoWhereMan> bye
[07:33] <FeestBijtje> il be here tomorrow so don't worry
[07:33] <mase> gstreamer cant play mp3s, what do i do?
[07:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kameron: looks good http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Convert-3104.shtml
[07:33] <mase> !mp3
[07:33] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <testmachine> gpierce: well, why?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> btw for the newbies ^^is not a good idea
[07:34] <gpierce> testmachine--sorry
[07:34] <NoWhereMan> apropos, does anybody know how to make work gnomebaker?
[07:34] <testmachine> i tried it too :P
[07:34] <testmachine> gpierce: i ment gnomefreak
[07:34] <Acidic32> :P
[07:34] <testmachine> gnomefreak: well, why?
[07:34] <Acidic32> can i install Ubuntu with KDE default
[07:34] <kameron> damnit, now my gnome desktop is crashing too.
[07:34] <Acidic32> using my Ubuntu cd's
[07:34] <gnomefreak> testmachine, from that link the guy just pasted here ill get it
[07:34] <Acidic32> not Kubuntu?
[07:34] <SirKillalot> do you know a good tool to compose midi sounds?
[07:34] <kameron> i thought it was just kde.
[07:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> no
[07:34] <gnomefreak> http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#addrepositories
[07:35] <gnomefreak> please you offical guide
[07:35] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[07:35] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[07:35] <Hoxzer> what other windows emulators are there than wine?
[07:35] <kouwe> how do i mount a writeable NTFS drive @ ubuntu....
[07:35] <gnomefreak> kouwe, dont? its not all that good to do that
[07:36] <testmachine> kouwe: mount /dev/*** /***
[07:36] <jenda> Any idea what I could possibly do to get a DVD recognised? It seems not to see it. Cleaning doesn't help.
[07:36] <kouwe> i now have this @ my fstab : /dev/hdc1 /media/data ntfs umask=000
[07:36] <ksmurf> !dapper
[07:36] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[07:36] <testmachine> gnomefreak: mwah, mounting is possible
[07:36] <acuster> hey all
[07:36] <Kindred> he said writeable.
[07:36] <ksmurf> !dapper bugs
[07:36] <ubotu> ksmurf: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:36] <kameron> grrr. ubuntu amd64 was so much more stable, but i installed x86 for win32 codecs, wine, etc.
[07:36] <TheAsp> heh
[07:36] <testmachine> kouwe: ah shit
[07:36] <testmachine> ok
[07:36] <testmachine> hehe
[07:36] <acuster> how does one type accented characters from a us keyboard layout?
[07:36] <TheAsp> releasing a dist on hitlers birthday
[07:36] <gnomefreak> testmachine, yes it is but mounting ntfs (writable) is a really really bad idea
[07:36] <kouwe> not good?
[07:36] <testmachine> wasnt that possible in the new kernel?
[07:37] <biazinha> LOGITECH 9400 PRO  - AMSN
[07:37] <biazinha> Please
[07:37] <gnomefreak> ksmurf, go to the bugzilla and search for the bugs beware there are a lot of them
[07:37] <testmachine> 2.6.15
[07:37] <kouwe> so its better to format it as a linux drive?
[07:37] <TheAsp> grrr, i can get mplayer to output over spdif directly, but can't get anything else to
[07:37] <testmachine> kouwe: yes
[07:37] <testmachine> kouwe: way better
[07:37] <gnomefreak> testmachine, its possible in all kernels just not a good idea
[07:37] <testmachine> kouwe: ntfs is bad anyway
[07:37] <kouwe> i got .12*
[07:38] <kouwe> kernel*
[07:38] <gnomefreak> use fat if you want to write
[07:38] <kouwe> well then i just format it for linux
[07:38] <kouwe> buts ill have 2 backup my movies :)
[07:38] <Hoxzer> what would be good virtual PC program for running windows?
[07:38] <kouwe> vmware?
[07:39] <kouwe> well formatting :D
[07:39] <kouwe> thnx
[07:39] <JaCk[a] L> !win
[07:39] <ubotu> Not a clue, JaCk[a] L
[07:39] <JaCk[a] L> !codecs
[07:39] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[07:39] <JaCk[a] L> !easysource
[07:39] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:40] <jenda> My drive refuses to recognise a DVD. Anything I could do besides scrubbing the disc?
[07:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone tell me what permissions /usr/bin fodler should be?
[07:40] <acuster> any ideas? (right alt used to work in iso**** (western) locales but I don't grok the utf-8 stuff.
[07:40] <acuster> ubuntu:~> ll /usr/
[07:40] <acuster> total 108K
[07:40] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x    2 root root  28K 2006-01-07 19:41 bin/
[07:40] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x    2 root root 4.0K 2006-01-03 02:45 doc/
[07:40] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x    2 root root 4.0K 2006-01-07 15:33 games/
[07:40] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x   82 root root 4.0K 2006-01-07 18:48 include/
[07:40] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x    2 root root 4.0K 2006-01-03 03:04 info/
[07:41] <Fade> erk
[07:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ..
[07:41] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x  142 root root  36K 2006-01-07 19:40 lib/
[07:41] <acuster> drwxrwxrwx    9 root root 4.0K 2006-01-03 03:04 local/
[07:41] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x    2 root root 8.0K 2006-01-07 19:41 sbin/
[07:41] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x  256 root root 8.0K 2006-01-07 19:40 share/
[07:41] <acuster> drwxrwsr-x    2 root src  4.0K 2005-10-05 11:37 src/
[07:41] <acuster> drwxr-xr-x    5 root root 4.0K 2006-01-03 02:39 X11R6/
[07:41] <gnomefreak> acuster, please dont paste in here use pastebin for pasting
[07:41] <acuster> freakout man for ten lines
[07:41] <acuster> life goes on, eh?
[07:41] <gnomefreak> acuster, read the topic
[07:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: what permissions should my /usr/bin be?
[07:42] <Fade> CanYouHelpMePlz: 755
[07:42] <STARSCREAM> Hi, cany anyone please show me how to mount a fat32 partition so it will be mounted on startup?
[07:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thanks fade
[07:42] <gnomefreak> yeah i think i have it at 755 also
[07:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell STARSCREAM about mount
[07:44] <jenda> My drive refuses to recognise a DVD. Anything I could do besides scrubbing the disc?
[07:44] <borisattva> i'm trying to install a gaim-rhythmbox plug in, configure step of which fails due to version number failing to meet requirement of being >= 0.79   because it is actually 1.5.0.1 i found an instance of this varibale steting in config.ac and adjsuted and saved it but it still fails. anyone have experience with this?
[07:44] <gnomefreak> yep mine is 755 sorry had to check :(
[07:45] <polpak> jenda: did you read the DVD part of the restricted formats wiki?
[07:45] <polpak> ubotu tell jenda about restricted
[07:45] <jenda> polpak: It plays DVDs normally
[07:45] <kremonte> jenda: software-wise :-)
[07:45] <mase> gah
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ummmmmm how does it play if it doesnt recognize it :(
[07:45] <mase> can someone help me install SKYPE?
[07:45] <polpak> jenda: ah.. just one particular dvd then
[07:46] <jenda> polpak: yes
[07:46] <mase> the guide you guys have is EXTREMELY OUTDATED and the .deb is 404'ed
[07:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mase about skype
[07:46] <jenda> kremonte: what?
[07:46] <kremonte> oh, 1 dvd
[07:46] <kremonte> nevermind =P
[07:47] <ompaul> !skype
[07:47] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[07:47] <acuster> Seveas: are you a bot?
[07:47] <ompaul> mase, that guide?
[07:47] <acuster> Seveas: seen jdub
[07:47] <adjacent> how do i measure usb transfer speeds
[07:48] <polpak> acuster: ubotu is the bot
[07:48] <gnomefreak> mase, read the 2nd url
[07:48] <STARSCREAM> Does anyone know how I can restart my fstab file to take immediate effect without rebooting?
[07:48] <ompaul> acuster, he is real, and he met jdub a month or two ago
[07:48] <polpak> STARSCREAM: no, but you can just mount the stuff manually to have the same effect
[07:48] <Seveas> acuster, ?
[07:48] <STARSCREAM> well I know I can restart my mounts, how do I do that?
[07:48] <gnomefreak> lol are you a bot
[07:48] <ompaul> gnomefreak, no you are :P
[07:49] <Seveas> acuster, some call me a bot but general agreement in here is that I'm human
[07:49] <gnomefreak> i dream of being a bot someday
[07:49] <Seveas> ompaul, actually almost 3 months
[07:49] <ompaul> Seveas, who is general and what is he in agreement with?
[07:49] <acuster> Seveas: oh, sorry to bother you then.
[07:50] <STARSCREAM> Does anyone know the command to restart all mounts?
[07:50] <jenda> STARSCREAM: mount -a
[07:50] <STARSCREAM> cheers jeda
[07:50] <STARSCREAM> jedna
[07:50] <STARSCREAM> jenda
[07:50] <mase> yeah
[07:50] <mase> none of those repos WORK
[07:50] <mase> they are all 404's
[07:50] <mase> no good
[07:51] <ompaul> mase, Seveas's repos are 404? for skype?
[07:51] <gnomefreak> Seveas, hes saying your repos dont work they were working fine for me :(
[07:51] <made> hello all
[07:51] <made> I think I screwed up my firefox installation
[07:51] <mase> yes
[07:51] <mase> they all 404
[07:51] <kameron> is there a kmplayer package in ubuntu?
[07:51] <Seveas> ompaul, bollocks
[07:51] <STARSCREAM> can anyone help me... I need to mount my 3rd partition on my 1st hard which is a fat32 fs, what device is it?
[07:51] <poningru> try one of the other mirrors then people
[07:51] <ubuntu_> hey ppl
[07:51] <mase> uh yeah
[07:51] <made> I tried to use the wiki install guide for the update from firefox 1.0.7 to 1.5 and now firefox won't open
[07:51] <mase> i tried 5 mirros
[07:51] <Seveas> my repos are working fine, some users are stupid though
[07:51] <mase> they are all 404
[07:52] <ompaul> Seveas, :)
[07:52] <mase> Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/list_of_sections/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[07:52] <gnomefreak> yep they are working fine :)
[07:52] <mase> Failed to fetch http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/list_of_sections/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[07:52] <mase> Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/list_of_sections/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[07:52] <mase> Failed to fetch http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/dists/ubuntu-seveas/freenx/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[07:52] <linuxfree> does anybody knows how can I mount my floppy disk automaticaly?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> not good
[07:52] <n00b-guy> guys, how could i install something from a deb archive?
[07:52] <poningru> maddler: whats wrong
[07:52] <Seveas> mase, read the wikipage correctly
[07:52] <poningru> made: whats wrong?
[07:52] <Seveas> and THEN READ IT AGAIN
[07:52] <poningru> oooohh
[07:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> whats a good way for getting the track info automatically for an audio cd?
[07:52] <poningru> you got served
[07:52] <kameron> linuxfree: add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[07:52] <Seveas> because you are making very stupid mistakes there
[07:53] <poningru> !seveas
[07:53] <ubotu> from memory, seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:53] <made> I can't use firefox. .I think I screwed up the install
[07:53] <poningru> made: ok what did you think you did wrong?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> i cant remember the command that everyone forgets for ff1.5 :(
[07:53] <ompaul> mase, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl//pool/extras/skype_1.2.0.18-1ubuntu3_i386.deb that you can't find that?
[07:54] <made> I copy&paste everything correctly into terminal like I did on my first install of ubuntu so that I could upgrade the firefox version
[07:54] <made> and now firefox will not open
[07:54] <gnomefreak> devirte that was it
[07:54] <bambata> i've got problems with my proftpd server
[07:54] <made> I know I pasted everything correctly
[07:54] <ompaul> mase, download it manually and run apt-get install filename.deb
[07:54] <bambata> can anyone help me
[07:54] <poningru> made: which instructions did you follow?
[07:54] <STARSCREAM> anyone know how to mount a windows ntfs drive with read and write access?
[07:54] <polpak> !ntfs
[07:54] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:54] <kameron> STARSCREAM: the kernel does not support writing
[07:54] <made> wiki.ubuntu.com  firefox NEWVERSION
[07:55] <linuxfree> Thanks, but I cannot open my floppy disk just clicking in the icon - I need to mount first writing in line command!
[07:55] <jorik> Is there something i can do to make my cd-rom go any faster ? i already have DMA enabled (i think, how do i check?) but i still am only getting 50kB/s ... (it feels slower than in windows)
[07:55] <poningru> made: hmm yeah that should have worked
[07:55] <bambata> actually users can log in
[07:55] <poningru> made: ok lets try for starters with your profile
[07:55] <made> I know it should have.. I've done it once before without error
[07:55] <poningru> made: go into your home folder
[07:55] <gnomefreak> <<<thinks he didnt get rid of 1.0.7 first
[07:55] <ompaul> made,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:55] <kameron> linuxfree: yes, i know. but if you add that line to fstab, and then type: mount /dev/fd0, it will be mounted, and even after a reboot, ti will auto mount at boot
[07:55] <bambata> but can't list the repertory
[07:55] <made> ok
[07:56] <poningru> made: press ctrl+h
[07:56] <poningru> made: find .mozilla
[07:56] <linuxfree> ok
[07:56] <Hoxzer> eh... what command I use to run VMware?
[07:56] <made> ok
[07:56] <kameron> so there's no kmplayer package for ubuntu hey?
[07:56] <made> it's there
[07:57] <poningru> made: rename it something like RealMozilla
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !info kmplayer
[07:57] <made> folder/firefox along with plugin.dat
[07:57] <poningru> made: right but rename .mozilla -> RealMozilla
[07:57] <kameron> Dr_Willis: ?
[07:57] <gnomefreak> i thought kubuntu used mplayer also didnt know there was a kmplayer
[07:57] <made> ok
[07:57] <made> done
[07:57] <poningru> made: now start up firefox
[07:58] <|Banana|> Hey people, who wants some SATA related fun? I'm getting errors on boot with a SATAII drive on an GA-K8NF9 Ultra board. Installing breezy fine, but system won't boot. I'm trying leaving / out of LVM, see if that fixes things.
[07:58] <kouwe> but now, how do i format a NTFS drive to a linux drive in linux?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> |Banana|, what errors?
[07:58] <nase> !time
[07:58] <ubotu> nase: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:58] <made> it opens "Starting Firefox Web Browser" on the taskbar.. but then it just closes out with no browser window
[07:58] <poningru> kouwe: use gparted
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> kouwe,  you mean convert? or delete and remake..
[07:59] <poningru> made: hmm
[07:59] <kouwe> is it possible 2 convert Dr_Willis
[07:59] <|Banana|> gnomefreak, command 0x35 timeout, stat 0xd0 host_stat 0x21, amongst others. I can give a better idea once I've finished this install attempt, which wont take long
[07:59] <poningru> kouwe: not possible
[07:59] <ompaul> kouwe, it is possible but you will loose any data
[07:59] <kouwe> hmmm
[07:59] <poningru> kouwe: you have to delete and remake
[07:59] <kouwe> then its the same as delete and remake
[07:59] <kouwe> poningru with gparted?
[07:59] <made> and I also think that I may have splooged my winxp ide primary hda
[07:59] <made> when I installed. .
[07:59] <poningru> !gparted
[07:59] <ubotu> poningru: Syntax error in line 1
[08:00] <ompaul> !info gparted
[08:00] <poningru> kouwe: helping made right now hold on just a sec
[08:00] <ompaul> Package 'gparted' does not exist.
[08:00] <kouwe> ok
[08:00] <kouwe> ill installed it
[08:00] <kouwe> apt-get install
[08:00] <nase> how do i ajust time? it keeps telling me im in berlin!!!
[08:00] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul i had it
[08:00] <made> I installed ubuntu on the ide primary slave with winxp in the primary master
[08:00] <nase> now sydney?? wtf
[08:00] <gnomefreak> !partion
[08:00] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak
[08:01] <set_> bonsoir
[08:01] <ompaul> gnomefreak, fdisk /dev/hdXN is the way forward there
[08:01] <poningru> made: ok hmm
[08:01] <kouwe> i have gparted running
[08:01] <STARSCREAM> Anyone, is it possible to make an NTFS partition writable from ubuntu?
[08:01] <made> would grub take over the primary master mbr?
[08:01] <kremonte> !ntfs
[08:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[08:01] <|Banana|> gnomefreak, <grr> getting errors in the installer now. They seem to come and go. "ATA: abnormal status 0xD) on port 0x9F7"
[08:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> whats a good way for getting the track info automatically for an audio cd?
[08:01] <cduby1> nase, right-click the date and select Adjust Date and Time
[08:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell STARSCREAM about ntfs
[08:01] <poningru> made: yeah
[08:01] <STARSCREAM> Ive been there
[08:01] <ompaul> STARSCREAM, not at this time- blame the people who developed it for not releasing documentation
[08:02] <STARSCREAM> but it doesnt mention writable
[08:02] <|Banana|> sda: Current: sense key: Hardware Error\nAdditional sense: No additional sense information
[08:02] <STARSCREAM> ah i see
[08:02] <kouwe> poningru, but now gparted would only see my hda1&hda2 but not my ntfs driver hdc1
[08:02] <STARSCREAM> so its impossible then?
[08:02] <made> what would I do to get my master boot record back in order to run winxp again.. *sigh*
[08:02] <gnomefreak> STARSCREAM, not a good idea to write to ntfs
[08:02] <poningru> made: hmm look into !grub
[08:02] <kameron> made: install-mbr
[08:02] <acuster> writing to ntfs is possible just not a good idea
[08:02] <gnomefreak> its possible but not recomended
[08:02] <cduby1> CanYouHelpMePlz, methinks SoundJuicer automagically searches the CDDB......
[08:02] <poningru> !tell made about grub
[08:03] <cduby1> at least it does on mine
[08:03] <kameron> made: err, sorry, it's this: fdisk install-mbr
[08:03] <kouwe> poningru, but now gparted would only see my hda1&hda2 but not my ntfs driver hdc1
[08:03] <acuster> STARSCREAM: better is to have another partition to transfer data between *nix and win
[08:03] <poningru> kameron: would that detect everything?
[08:03] <gnomefreak> yay OOo updates :)
[08:03] <ompaul> STARSCREAM, you can but you have to run windows software inside your Linux kernel space to even try - horrible - as acuster said - do a stepped approach use fat32 in the middle
[08:03] <poningru> kouwe: ok thats weird because hdc is usually used for cd drives
[08:04] <kouwe> got it vnc wasmnt that big to show that :$
[08:04] <kameron> shit shit shit.. made: okay, sorry, this is definitely the right command, i was trying to think about it: sudo install-mbr /dev/hda
[08:04] <kameron> poningru: it reinstalls the default windows bootloader
[08:04] <poningru> kameron: but he doesnt want that
[08:04] <poningru> he wants grub
[08:04] <kameron> "what would I do to get my master boot record back in order to run winxp again.. *sigh*"
[08:04] <gnomefreak> kameron, you might want to tell it grub
[08:04] <poningru> with windows
[08:05] <gnomefreak> !grub
[08:05] <ubotu> grub is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:05] <poningru> kouwe: I will be right with you dude hold on just a sec
[08:05] <gnomefreak> theres a few ways :)
[08:05] <made> will that wiki grub guide show me how to boot win and nix as a selector?
[08:05] <drayen> Hi could someone help me with my extenral hard disk, its a ext2/3 disk but it seems to have corrupt superblocks even when useing the alt... im not sure if i am just trying to run e2fsck on the wrong thing or what, but i'm going crazy as its got years worth of work on it.... please...
[08:05] <poningru> made: look at the trouble shooting
[08:05] <kameron> made: to install grub, configure it, and: sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[08:05] <poningru> wait
[08:05] <pippijn> hi all
[08:06] <made> but I still can't run firefox..
[08:06] <pippijn> in the card list there are no cards at all.. only "unlisted card" and in that unlisted card area I see only ati and vmware
[08:06] <s_spiff> cant run firefox?
[08:06] <cutterjohn> hello
[08:06] <s_spiff>  as in?
[08:06] <made> I did the renaming but it still won't work
[08:06] <Hoxzer> how do I get my self out of vmware window?
[08:07] <s_spiff> u mean u tried installing ff 1.5?
[08:07] <yatesy> Hoxzer: control and alt usually
[08:07] <made> uhh yeah..
[08:07] <cutterjohn> I was wondering if anyone might be able to offer some insight into a network problem?  (May not be a network problem after all, but...)
[08:07] <s_spiff> and now even if u click on the icon for FF, nothing loads?
[08:07] <knoppix_> hi, one simple question: where does synaptic store the packages it downloads and installs?
[08:07] <made> it opens "Starting Firefox Web Browser" on the taskbar.. but then it just closes out with no browser window
[08:07] <poningru> made: one problem at a time
[08:07] <poningru> made: which one do you want to solve first?
[08:08] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can anyone tell me why ubuntu see's .aac as mpeg4 video?
[08:08] <made> ok.. sorry.. many apologies
[08:08] <drayen> ask away cutter... worst they will do is pay no attention
[08:08] <Kindred> knoppix_: /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:08] <s_spiff> yeah, made : what you do is, go through the whole installation procedure again, there are some files missing, which the wiki talks about in the starting
[08:08] <made> firefox.. so that I can view the troubleshooting
[08:08] <cutterjohn> Drayen, thx
[08:08] <knoppix_> Kindred: thx
[08:08] <s_spiff>  load those, and you should be on your way
[08:08] <poningru> made oh true
[08:08] <s_spiff>  i'm a noob, but I did it some time back
[08:08] <cutterjohn> Here goes, I've got a powerpc Ubuntu linux(5.04) running dialup and acting as a router for my LAN.
[08:08] <dickmc> anyone know where to get the mp3 plugin for GnomeBaker??  Thanks
[08:08] <yatesy> made: run it in a terminal
[08:08] <s_spiff>  and had  to format my hdd the 1st time cuz i didnt know how to work it out
[08:09] <kameron> cutterjohn: sounds like a fun project
[08:09] <poningru> made: ok open up a terminal and start firefox there see what errors it gives
[08:09] <cutterjohn> The notebook connects via 802.11b(bridge) to the wired portion of the LAN, on which I've got a
[08:09] <cutterjohn> FreeBSD & win2k box.  The problem that I've been having is that https connections for the win2k
[08:09] <gnomefreak> dial-up wioth a router :( i was never able to find router for dial- up:(
[08:09] <made> /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:09] <xophEr> how unstable is dapper ?
[08:10] <cutterjohn> box are unable to sustain bandwidth in transfers(took ~3h to xfer 2.5M), while http & ftp xfers
[08:10] <gnomefreak> very
[08:10] <poningru> made: you obviously didnt go through that step
[08:10] <cutterjohn> can sustain 4.4k and ~2k ish respectivel...
[08:10] <made> ohh damn.. I did miss that..
[08:10] <poningru> made: simple to fix
[08:10] <made> damn . I feel like a complete dumbass noob
[08:10] <made> ok ok
[08:10] <gnomefreak> xophEr, it can and more than likely will break something your best off waiting till end of april
[08:10] <s_spiff> hehe
[08:10] <cutterjohn> Is is likely that the https protocol is the source of the problem  (BTW: the problem actually shows up in a game update utility, and the dev insists that it's a network issue...)
[08:10] <kameron> made: we've all felt that way before, but don't worry about it. you have to crawl before you can walk. :-)
[08:10] <s_spiff>  i thought he missed that .
[08:10] <s_spiff> i did the same
[08:10] <poningru> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[08:11] <cdubya> CanYouHelpMePlz, have you tried to open it with Rhythmbox at all?
[08:11] <made> kameron: right on
[08:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> cdubya: got it working thanks
[08:11] <cutterjohn> I've tried re-adjusting, my linux router setting, and firestarter IPTABLE rules, changing ffrom wwwoffle to squid again...
[08:11] <cdubya> np
[08:11] <_asraniel__> hi, i have to find out on which ubuntu mirror a certain application is that i installed with apt-get, is that possible?
[08:11] <dickmc> anyone know where to get the mp3 plugin for GnomeBaker??  Thanks
[08:12] <cutterjohn> (thosejust tunnel the connection), tried modifying ethernet card setting in win2k, but no luck (I personally think its the update utility)
[08:12] <som1> anyone has exprience convincing his family to use ubuntu? :)
[08:12] <s_spiff> hey any1 knows where I can find more of these desktop toys?
[08:12] <poningru> made: yeah what kameron said
[08:12] <s_spiff> haha, I did som1
[08:12] <made> ok ok.. it's done...
[08:12] <kameron> poningru: werd
[08:12] <made> lmco
[08:12] <cutterjohn> (but it works fine for broadband people, and those with direct connections, which I can't test right now as no ext. modems or even an internal one...)
[08:12] <s_spiff> lmco?
[08:12] <amonkey> how can i figure out which serial port is which?
[08:12] <made> Lauging my culo off
[08:12] <s_spiff> lol ok.
[08:13] <kameron> s_spiff: Laughing my culo off, duh
[08:13] <cutterjohn> so, anyone have any other suggestions? or anything obvious that I may be overlooking?
[08:13] <cutterjohn> (or nonobvious...)
[08:13] <s_spiff> i dunno what culo off is..but.. seems to be funny
[08:13] <s_spiff> :P
[08:13] <jorgp> !w32codecs
[08:13] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:13] <Kindred> _asraniel__: apt-cache policy appname
[08:13] <kameron> cutterjohn: everything you typed.. it was a lot, paste it into a pastebin, and i'll read that, it was hard to keep up.
[08:13] <poningru> made: did it work?
[08:13] <kameron> !tell john about paste
[08:13] <made> yes it worked
[08:13] <made> but it's back to 1.07
[08:13] <cutterjohn> okey, want a msg of it?
[08:14] <s_spiff> sorry, disconnected by mistake
[08:14] <made> *1.0.7
[08:14] <kameron> cutterjohn: link to the pastebin in channel
[08:14] <s_spiff>  som1  , please do not send pm's, open chat is just fine :P
[08:14] <LordLinux> I have a quick question.
[08:14] <made> I'm going to so thru the install..
[08:14] <s_spiff> I got my dad to use it
[08:14] <Dr_Acemaster> I can ping a windows box, but can't find it with file browser, how do I find it with file browser?
[08:14] <s_spiff>  though, its just  a start.
[08:14] <cutterjohn> oops, ok, now I'm at a loss... what's a pastebin?
[08:14] <Kindred> made I think you'll find the about box says that but it isn't, if I recall correctly
[08:14] <kameron> !tell john about paste
[08:14] <cdubya> som1, I always try to get family to use it.
[08:14] <B_166-ER-X> i keep putting some gdesklets network apps on my desktop, but ...they keep disapearing by there own after a few minutes...the other Gdesklets apps have no problem..
[08:14] <som1> cutterjohn, its pastebin.com, a place to paste long things
[08:14] <made> brb.
[08:15] <cutterjohn> ah, ok... thx... brb
[08:15] <B_166-ER-X> what could be the reason ?
[08:15] <kameron> soml: well, being a linux channel, we prefer to use: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ <--- cutterjohn
[08:15] <cutterjohn> (i'd never heard of it before...)
[08:15] <made> that's not it m8.. I've installed it before.. and it says 1.5 in the about
[08:15] <cutterjohn> d'oh... ok going there..
[08:15] <LordLinux> how does one become a download mirror ?
[08:15] <deepspaceant> guys im getting this erro rwhen compiling bind9 what do i need ar program not found.  Please fix your PATH to include the directory in
[08:15] <deepspaceant> which ar resides, or set AR in the environment with the full path to ar.
[08:15] <s_spiff> whats this pastebin nad paste.ubuntu..yada yada?
[08:15] <linuxfree> does anybody know how can I convert .OGG files (ogg theora) (movie) to .MPEG or .AVI - I want to make a VCD.
[08:16] <kameron> cutterjohn: it doesn't _really_ matter, but the ubuntu one has the nice logos and what not :P
[08:16] <made> brb
[08:16] <poningru> kouwe: dude you still there?
[08:16] <LordLinux> anyone up for a quick question?
[08:16] <poningru> LordLinux: yeah
[08:16] <mwe> linuxfree: are you aware that converting from one compressed format to another means a pretty fair amount loss of quality?
[08:16] <ColonelPanique> !anyone
[08:16] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:17] <s_spiff> hey how do i create a launcher/icon on my desktop for my home folder?
[08:17] <LordLinux> I want to offer some bandwidth and ftp space to ubuntu.
[08:17] <kameron> s_spiff: what window manager?
[08:17] <poningru> mwe: it does if the compression is lossy
[08:17] <s_spiff> i'm on kde actually
[08:17] <poningru> LordLinux: there is an email address for that hold on let me dig it up
[08:17] <s_spiff>  i  mean I got ubuntu, but just i nstalled the kde meta package 2 days back
[08:17] <kameron> LordLinux: get in touch with Seveas, i'm sure he'll be able to help you out. or.. help you help us :D
[08:17] <deepspaceant> guys im getting this error rwhen compiling bind9 what do i need ar program not found.
[08:18] <LordLinux> thanks
[08:18] <s_spiff> whats bind9?
[08:18] <LordLinux> DNS server
[08:18] <B_166-ER-X> i keep putting some gdesklets network apps on my desktop, but ...they keep disapearing by there own after a few minutes...the other Gdesklets apps have no problem.. anyone have and idea ?
[08:18] <LordLinux> Berkley Internet Name Daemond
[08:18] <deepspaceant> dont really matter what it is where can i find th eAR Archiver
[08:18] <LordLinux> Berkley Internet Name Daemon
[08:18] <s_spiff> ouu ok, no clue man.
[08:18] <poningru> LordLinux: mirrors@ubuntu.com
[08:18] <LordLinux> thx
[08:18] <LordLinux> much  appriciated
[08:18] <s_spiff> how to create short cuts/ icons on desktop for home folder?
[08:19] <LordLinux> I have an unmetered box on dual oc-12's. just wanna help
[08:19] <poningru> LordLinux: also there is a email list which you can use if that email doesnt work hold on
[08:20] <poningru> LordLinux: ubuntu-mirrors@lists.ubuntu.com
[08:20] <poningru> LordLinux: also take a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/mirror
[08:20] <poningru> s_spiff: just drag and drop it from the menu
[08:21] <s_spiff> ok
[08:21] <s_spiff> thanks
[08:21] <made> alrighty.. I now have Firefox 1.5 installed and working..
[08:21] <cutterjohn> kameron, link is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6755
[08:21] <kameron> cutterjohn, ty
[08:21] <s_spiff> made : cool
[08:22] <made> poningru: what did you say I should do about the grub thing?
[08:22] <s_spiff> you should check out their session saver plugin
[08:22] <s_spiff>  its neat
[08:22] <cutterjohn> hmmm.. oops I noticed that it didn't wrap lines...
[08:22] <igaaa> hi
[08:22] <poningru> made: cool
[08:22] <bubblenut> Hi, anyone know how I can get songs onto my PSP? I've connected it with a usb cable but my laptop (running breazy) won't recognise that it's there.
[08:22] <poningru> made: !grub
[08:22] <metho> could someone help me with the wireless networking, i got belkin f5d7010, IEEE 802.11g/54mbps, i have no clue what needs to be done!!!!!!
[08:22] <poningru> !grub
[08:22] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:22] <poningru> ok that link is wrong
[08:22] <igaaa> could someone tell me how to make the optical output work ?
[08:22] <s_spiff> anyways
[08:23] <s_spiff>  good night people [ or whatever time it is there ] 
[08:23] <s_spiff>  cya tomorrow
[08:23] <poningru> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto
[08:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell metho about wifi
[08:23] <poningru> made: look at that and follow the instructions for grub-update
[08:23] <igaaa> with an internal Intel AC97 audio card
[08:23] <kameron> cutterjohn: omfg, that shit's over my head. but one question: how can you afford a win2k, bsd, and linux box, but not a decent internet connection?
[08:24] <poningru> brb
[08:24] <made> thx. I'll brb. hopefully one of these days I will be able to assist people in this channel
 thought I'd cracked it then
[08:25] <cvt|kde> somebody is trying to give ppl a trojan on yahoo. can that affect me?
[08:25] <leafw> which of all the /etc/rcX.d or /etc/init.d scripts is in control of the apache web server? There are K and S entries for it. Is this explained somewhere?
[08:25] <|Banana|> I left out LVM entirely, it fscks ok, and then  get screen fulls complaining about such things as "DeviceFault CorrectedError Error". :/
[08:26] <cutterjohn> kameron, win2k box is 5y old, FreeBSD box in something like 8u old, and notebooks is also c. 5y old
[08:26] <Overscun>  salut tout le monde
[08:26] <Overscun> =)
[08:26] <insomnd> hi. i am helping my friend over the phone to install ubuntu,
[08:26] <cutterjohn> (pretty low specs too...)
[08:26] <polpak> !fr
[08:26] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:26] <LordLinux> thank you everyone.
[08:26] <cutterjohn> (... and no good broadband carriers in the area ATM...)
[08:26] <insomnd> she has an old toshiba protege 3110
[08:26] <kameron> cutterjohn: ah, okay.
[08:26] <poningru> made: let me know if you do run into trouble
[08:27] <poningru> kouwe: you still there dude?
[08:27] <Hoxzer> how do I transfer files between VMware virtual PC and the host?
[08:27] <insomnd> we can't seem to boot up from external cdrom
[08:27] <insomnd> any ideas?
[08:27] <poningru> insomnd: yes
[08:27] <poningru> insomnd: hold on
[08:27] <Overscun> lol
[08:27] <cutterjohn> kameron, thx for trying, I've looked into everything that I could think of and frankly if I can sustain bandwidth on http connections, I should also be able to via https as that is just encrypted http...
[08:27] <salomo> hello! Anyone knows howto remove an item from gnome menu by hand?
[08:27] <Overscun> any one there speak french ?
[08:27] <cutterjohn> kameron, very annoying...
[08:27] <gaz> how does Synaptic work does it only show packages that are stored in the cache or does it access the internet also?
[08:27] <insomnd> poningru, thanks
[08:27] <kameron> Overscun: se joindre d'essai #ubuntu-fr
[08:28] <kameron> Overscun: Je suis parle francais
[08:28] <Overscun> tks
[08:28] <Overscun> =)
[08:28] <poningru> insomnd: do you have a floppy drive?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> salomo, look for menu editor in systemtools
[08:28] <insomnd> poningru, she does yes
[08:28] <djk_> how do i list all files that'll be installed via kubuntu-desktop ?
[08:29] <kameron> Overscun: Je parle francais, je signifie..
[08:29] <kameron> man i'm rusty.
[08:29] <cutterjohn> kameron, you wouldn't happen to know of someone else I could bounce that off of, or of someplace else to try would you?
[08:29] <gnomefreak> you can add remove apps from menu there salomo
[08:29] <insomnd> poningru, however i am unsure if it is working
[08:29] <cutterjohn> Je parle un peux francais?
[08:29] <poningru> insomnd: http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[08:29] <cutterjohn> (or is it the other way aaround...)
[08:29] <poningru> woah
[08:30] <insomnd> poningru ok
[08:30] <kameron> cutterjohn: do you mean another channel to ask in, or what?
[08:30] <top222> Hello... could someone please msg me the contents of the original sources.list of Ubuntu Hoary (5.04)?
[08:30] <poningru> insomnd: dude if it doesnt work there might be problems
[08:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell top222 about sources
[08:30] <insomnd> poningru, no way to boot from external cdrom?
[08:30] <cutterjohn> kameron: another channel, another person, a web site, pretty much anything/place...
[08:30] <poningru> insomnd: you may wanna try and update the bios
[08:30] <insomnd> poningru ok thanks
[08:31] <cutterjohn> kameron: I've been beating on that problem for about a week off and on, and it's driving me nuts...
[08:31] <gnomefreak> yuck at flashing bios :(
[08:31] <poningru> insomnd: let me know if you have probs with that boot manager
[08:31] <poningru> gnomefreak: hehe
[08:31] <polpak> cutterjohn: I'm not sure I understand what the problem is..
[08:31] <made> ok
[08:31] <gnomefreak> :) good luck
[08:31] <kameron> polpak: https isn't sustaining bandwidth in his network configuration
[08:31] <jhhghgk> can someone tell me a file that loads at start that i can add entries too....
[08:31] <jhhghgk> like what rc.local used to do
[08:31] <simonvc> hey, what do i apt-get to install the kernel src's?
[08:32] <kameron> cutterjohn: honestly, sorry to say it, but when i have hard quiestions that #ubuntu can't answer, i try #mandriva
[08:32] <insomnd> poningru so can she use the bootmanager to boot from the cdrom?
[08:32] <cutterjohn> polpak: erm, did you get the pastebin link?  basically my https connections aren't sustaining transfer bandwidth, and exhibiting basic flakiness..
[08:32] <poningru> insomnd: yeah
[08:32] <insomnd> poningru, seems cool enough :)
[08:32] <made> now I understand grub.. and if I am correct I should be able to boot into winxp thru grub without setting up anthing. correct?
[08:32] <cvt|kde> will someone test a link for danger?
[08:32] <kameron> polpak, cutterjohn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6755
[08:32] <made> except for the timeout,.
[08:32] <polpak> cutterjohn: any https connection?
[08:32] <cutterjohn> kameron: would that be on the freenode network as well?
[08:32] <poningru> made: it should have set it up for you
[08:32] <kameron> cutterjohn: yes sir
[08:32] <gnomefreak> made, if you installed win first grub automaticlly sees it
[08:33] <inventor_> rules?
[08:33] <made> ok.. I'm going to test it out and I'll see you on the flipside..
[08:33] <made> brb..
[08:33] <kameron> cutterjohn: all the distros have a channel here, aswell as help for programming languages, programs like wine, etc.
[08:33] <rickard> Hi
[08:33] <poningru> inventor_: ?
[08:33] <cutterjohn> polpak: well, thats my other problem, as I couldn't think of any other external https links I could test again, so I just *ducks* assumed that if http & ftp worked fine, so should https... but its not... with that app...
[08:33] <inventor_> :)
[08:33] <asteroid> hi
[08:33] <gnomefreak> if you install win last than no it hide/overwrites grub and youll not beablet o boot into linux :(
[08:33] <kameron> inventor_: /topic ?? i guess. we're not too strict here :P
[08:33] <cutterjohn> polpak: s/again/against/
[08:33] <inventor_> i could use some help getting an SMP kernel installed...  anyone?
[08:33] <top222> gnomefreak: Almost solved my problem.  I know "hoary universe" and "hoary-security universe" were disabled in the original...
[08:33] <inventor_> thanks in advance
[08:34] <gnomefreak> almost?
[08:34] <asteroid> why the /dev/device doesn't exist, and if I mknod it, after reboot it doesn't keep ?
[08:34] <polpak> cutterjohn: if you open a web browser and go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ does it load?
[08:34] <asteroid> s/device/video0
[08:34] <top222> gnomefreak: "hoary main restricted" was enabled... and I guess that "hoary-security main restricted" was also enabled
[08:34] <poningru> inventor_: dude go into synaptic, search for smp
[08:34] <gnomefreak> top that link is the offcial hoary sources
[08:34] <inventor_> whats synaptic?
[08:34] <cutterjohn> polpak, hang on, I'll have to go onto one of the machines behind this one(I'm on the routing machine ATM...)
[08:34] <top222> gnomefreak: But how about "hoary-updates main restricted"?  Was it enabled or disabled by default?
[08:35] <ompaul> !tell inventor_ about synaptic
[08:35] <simonvc> inventor: its a touchpad
[08:35] <gnomefreak> top222, dont you want all of them enabled?
[08:35] <djk_> how do i list all files that'll be installed via kubuntu-desktop?
[08:35] <inventor_> lol
[08:35] <inventor_> thx
[08:35] <ompaul> inventor_, the bot has send you a pm and it will tell you lots about the program synaptic
[08:35] <top222> gnomefreak: I have a very much mixed system with Debian Unstable and hoary universe... I'd like to downgrade it to its original state and then upgrade to Breezy
[08:35] <butcherbird> inventor_: gui frontend for apt-get
[08:36] <rickard> I just installed ubuntu, but while trying to install graphic drivers it says I need to be root, how do I become root?
[08:36] <top222> gnomefreak: That is why I want to know how it was "fresh" out of the box
[08:36] <inventor_> can i just apt-get install the kernel w/ the -smp?  and reboot?
[08:36] <poningru> inventor_: you can also do apt-file search smp
[08:36] <polpak> rickard: what graphic drivers?
[08:36] <guest666> can someone tell me a file that loads at start that i can add entries too....like what rc.local used to do
[08:36] <inventor_> k.. i can do that
[08:36] <metho> gnomefreak: i checked the wifi guide but for it doesnt make any sense to me, are there any alternatives
[08:36] <simonvc> rickard, sudo su -
[08:36] <rickard> Nvidia GeForce
[08:36] <ompaul> simonvc, it is also software, in fact in the case of ubuntu is is mostly software
[08:36] <asteroid> I try to run a Quickcam Express (working fine on slack) but Xawtv (or camarama) do not find /dev/video0. Module is load ? what can be the fuck ?
[08:36] <polpak> guest666: /etc/rc2.d
[08:36] <salomo> gnomefreak: yes but i installed helix player from bin-file and removed it by hand. and now i can't remove that shortcut using that add/remove-thing.
[08:36] <poningru> inventor_: then apt-get install  the package
[08:36] <kameron> how can i restart x without rebooting? damn, i used to remember.
[08:36] <gnomefreak> top222, anything that says universe was disabled same with multiverse
[08:36] <FliesLikeABrick> kameron,  ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:36] <polpak> kameron: ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:37] <asteroid> I try to run a Quickcam Express (working fine on slack) but Xawtv (or camarama) do not find /dev/video0. Module is load , what can be the fuck ?
[08:37] <gnomefreak> salomo, where is the shortcut?
[08:37] <ompaul> rickard, sudo command to do the job - you do not need to do sudo su -
[08:37] <CmaX> wow
[08:37] <CmaX> just discovered freenode
[08:37] <guest666> polpak is there a certain file there or?
[08:37] <salomo> in the soud&video section
[08:37] <top222> gnomefreak: Ok.  I will enable all "main" and disable all "universe" and "multiverse" and see what happens.  Thanks.
[08:37] <poningru> hehe
[08:37] <CmaX> ahoy all
[08:37] <polpak> rickard: are you following the wiki?
[08:37] <polpak> !nvidia
[08:37] <ubotu> hmm... nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:37] <poningru> CmaX: ahoy hoy
[08:37] <Kindred> hey there.
[08:37] <salomo> gnomefreak: in the sound&video section
[08:37] <cutterjohn> polpak: yes, I can get to https://wiki/ubuntu.com, but the xfer rate doesn't appear to be as stable as with plain http... but not nearly as bad as the other problematic app exhibits...
[08:37] <CmaX> poningru: *nod*
[08:37] <rickard> polpak what wiki?
[08:37] <polpak> guest666: you need to make a start/stop file
[08:38] <polpak> ubotu tell rickard about nvidia
[08:38] <metho> could anyone please help me with the wifi networking, my belkin card is supported by ubuntu
[08:38] <gnomefreak> salomo, im not sure why you cant disable it :(
[08:38] <salomo> gnomefreak, it has no icon, only text is showing
[08:38] <cutterjohn> polpak: oops, it looks like it actually has gotten worse now...
[08:38] <CmaX> mark shuttleworth here tonight?
[08:38] <guest666> polpak i just want to run a firewall rule set file.......
[08:38] <poningru> metho: whats wrong?
[08:38] <cutterjohn> polpak: nm on the worse...
[08:38] <poningru> CmaX: look for sabdfl, but he doesnt hang out here usually
[08:39] <gnomefreak> metho, did you read the pm ubotu sent you about wifi?
[08:39] <polpak> cutterjohn: what is the app that's giving you trouble?
[08:39] <cutterjohn> polpak: page loaded up fine, I really should test it against a file xfer via https...
[08:39] <kameron> polpak: that restarts x? i thought it just logs me out
[08:39] <gnomefreak> sabdfl=mark shuttleworth?
[08:39] <polpak> kameron: it force kills X, then gdm will restart it
[08:39] <kameron> gnomefreak: yes
[08:39] <metho> gnomefreak: yeah, but didnt make any sense, i am totally noob and i got new wifi card which is supported by linux but i dont know how to install it
[08:39] <cutterjohn> polpak: well, it happens to be a windows game.... }:)  (Minions of Mirth) ...
[08:39] <gnomefreak> oh damnnnnnnn
[08:40] <poningru> gnomefreak: yeah
[08:40] <kameron> polpak: oh, cool. i didn't realize it restats x. maybe i shouldn't do that to log out? probably bad?
[08:40] <polpak> cutterjohn: using wine, or cedega then?
[08:40] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yes ...
[08:40] <poningru> metho: ok you have a laptop right?
[08:40] <kameron> does SABDFL come here ever?
[08:40] <polpak> kameron: not really bad. Just doesn't give your proggies a chance to shutdown
[08:40] <poningru> kameron: not usually
[08:40] <cutterjohn> polpak: ah, I'm actually running it on the win2k machine as it's the only one with a GPU capable of running it, so just in windows...
[08:40] <metho> poningru: yeah
[08:40] <gnomefreak> kameron, yes ive seen him a few times
[08:40] <kameron> polpak, poningru, oh cool, alright
[08:40] <polpak> cutterjohn: ah. ok
[08:40] <poningru> metho: plug in your wifi card, and restart the laptop
[08:40] <kameron> gnomefreak: oh cool dude. he's like a celebrity to all 656 of us here :P
[08:41] <kameron> !sabdfl
[08:41] <ubotu> kameron: I don't know
[08:41] <kameron> !stupid bot
[08:41] <ubotu> stupid kameron
[08:41] <polpak> cutterjohn: well I'd guess that it's actually using a different port
[08:41] <poningru> metho: I am assuming its a pcmcia card
[08:41] <ompaul> kameron, don't play with the bot
[08:41] <cutterjohn> polpak: nope, I can see it connecting through port 443 if I watch firestarter's GUI...
[08:41] <_asraniel> what is the easiest way to get the arial font in open office?
[08:41] <metho> poningru: restart? shell i leave i leaver the ethernet cable in aswell which is my eth0
[08:41] <kameron> ompaul: i was checking for a sabdfl entry, failing that, decided he was dumb
[08:41] <cutterjohn> polpak: or dump connections in the console...
[08:41] <inventor_> not to sound like i don't want to search online.. but i just spent a couple mins and can't find a list of packages.. anyone?
[08:41] <inventor_> kinda new at this apt-get stuff
[08:41] <poningru> metho: yeah make sure the ethernet cable is plugged in
[08:42] <polpak> cutterjohn: well, does that game require an inbound port to be open as well? you'll need to set up port forwarding or some such in that case
[08:42] <poningru> inventor_: what proc do you have?
[08:42] <inventor_> dual xeon 1ghz
[08:42] <ompaul> kameron, if you play with the bot, one of the ops will kick you or I will install you on a fat32 partition and unplug the box :)
[08:42] <metho> poningru: ok, be right back m8!!!!!!
[08:42] <inventor_> i386 rather
[08:42] <korridoren> exit
[08:42] <kameron> ompaul: haha, okay. :P
[08:42] <korridoren> q
[08:42] <korridoren> sry
[08:42] <top222> One problem... if I have Debian Unstable packages installed, then how do I downgrade them to the latest Hoary version?
[08:42] <cutterjohn> polpak: ...and it's only the large xfers of the update, as I got in one time and could play online fine, can play other online games fine, it's just the large chunk xfer for updates that seem to kill https xfers over the network...
[08:42] <St0n3-C0l> where do I put splash screen .png /
[08:42] <ompaul> korridoren,  >>>/quit<<<
[08:43] <top222> Or how do I do that downgrade automatically?
[08:43] <cutterjohn> polpak: i.e. small chunks fly through fine, big chunks and we've got trouble...
[08:43] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: for boot or login?
[08:43] <guest666> :(
[08:43] <polpak> cutterjohn: well if it's https can you just get the url and try it through your web browser?
[08:43] <St0n3-C0l> kameron: http://art.ubuntu.com/themes/splash_screens/3
[08:43] <St0n3-C0l> this one
[08:44] <bubblenut> Anyone using their PSP via ubuntu?
[08:44] <bubblenut> I could really use a little help
[08:44] <cutterjohn> polpak: yes, I was thinking about seeing if i couldn't do that... but it would be unofficial... I was really hoping that this was a fixable problem as it may crop up in other areas in the future...
[08:44] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: hmm, it's not loading.
[08:44] <korridoren> I've installed the nvidia driver for my geforce4 4200ti, Horzsync and vertsync are set right, driver is "nvidia". But when I've done all this I loose higher (1600x1200) resolution.
[08:44] <korridoren> Anyone know how to solve this?
[08:44] <polpak> cutterjohn: well this would determine if it was an actual network problem or just a problem with the app
[08:44] <poningru> inventor_: apt-get install linux-image-686-smp
[08:45] <St0n3-C0l> kameron: working here...anyways tell me for boot ?
[08:45] <poningru> err add a sudo in front of that
[08:45] <ompaul> top222, you don't if you want to install something then breezy is the latest release, dapper is tracking unstable and it will be released in april
[08:45] <cutterjohn> polpak: ... and I'm not sure if the game is doing anything funny, the dev claims its 99.99999% likely to be an https problem, not his stuff..
[08:45] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: drop it in /boot, then configure grub to use it
[08:45] <metho> poningru: i restarted my laptop
[08:45] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: and i don't know a lot about grub, ive been using lilo since day 1
[08:45] <poningru> cool
[08:45] <salomo> gnomefreak, Now I figured it out. You ment that 'applications menu editor'. I thought you ment that 'add programs' -thing. Thanks!
[08:45] <poningru> metho: now go to system
[08:46] <cutterjohn> polpak: ...and I'm unlikely to be able to get the code, I already tried getting him to setup for manual updates too, but no go...
[08:46] <St0n3-C0l> kameron: Np. Thanks for the help :)
[08:46] <metho> poningru: ok
[08:46] <poningru> metho: administrative->network
[08:46] <gnomefreak> salomo, sorry if i wasnt clear
[08:46] <korridoren> When I use driver "nv" then I can access higher res but loose 3D-acc and can't use nvidia config utils
[08:46] <polpak> cutterjohn: well if you install ethereal you should be able to see the request being made by the app and mimic it with your browser if possible
[08:46] <St0n3-C0l> I might use it as my display picture :P
[08:46] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: actually, it's in this book i just bought, i'll look it up for you
[08:46] <metho> got it
[08:46] <metho> poningru: i am in
[08:46] <iuhguig> ?
[08:46] <polpak> ubotu tell korridoren about fixres
[08:46] <ompaul> top222, I would get the breezy CD back up the home partition, do a clean install, put the old home partition somewhere the those who need it can read it and work from there
[08:46] <cutterjohn> polpak:  only one real dev on the project... good pt. polpak, I'll try it out... and see what happens...
[08:46] <poningru> metho: now do you see your card there?
[08:47] <St0n3-C0l> kameron: which one?
[08:47] <inventor_> poningru:  thx much
[08:47] <cutterjohn> polpak: thx for the suggestion btw, as I had forgotten that I was going to try tcpdump on it...
[08:47] <tomplast> hi guys
[08:47] <salomo> gnomefreak, No it was my fault. You gave just right solution :)
[08:47] <inventor_> trying now
[08:47] <poningru> inventor_: you will need a restart
[08:48] <inventor_> i know :)
[08:48] <tomplast> can anyone tell me the easiest way to start creating windows and other graphically thing?
[08:48] <metho> poningru: i see ethernet network (eth0, this is ethernet cable connection), other one is ppp0 which is the modem of the laptop(i think but i am not sure)
[08:48] <poningru> metho: hmm
[08:48] <poningru> hold on
[08:48] <Saturn5> hey
[08:48] <Saturn5> tomplast, tcltk ?
[08:48] <poningru> metho: whats the chipset of that card?
[08:48] <tomplast> what is that?
[08:48] <korridoren> polpak : thnx for the help. I appriciate it. But the FixVideoResolutionHowto doesn't fix my problem (It do fix initial res problem with the "nv" driver)
[08:49] <metho> poningru: make of the card is belkin and model number is f5d7010
[08:49] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxdeskhks/index.html
[08:49] <inventor_> poningru: any chance this will break my installation when i reboot?
[08:49] <salomo> gnomefreak, This ubuntu works quite well now. My laptop is FS Amilo M7405 and its working just fine. I like this ubuntu and gnome environment.
[08:49] <St0n3-C0l> thanks :)
[08:49] <tomplast> Saturn5? what is tcltk?
[08:49] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: ;)
[08:49] <rickard> woho, my drivers worked :D
[08:50] <poningru> inventor_: it shouldnt but you can just choose the other kernel on restart if it does
[08:50] <inventor_> nice...
[08:50] <poningru> metho: hmm hold on
[08:50] <metho> poningru: np!
[08:50] <djk_> could someone with a standard ubuntu do a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and pastebin the output please?
[08:50] <tomplast> is it supported by ubuntu and kubuntu?
[08:51] <som1> tomplast, www.tcl.tk ;)
[08:51] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: how about i write you a short tutorial, and throw it on pastebin, that cool?
[08:51] <salomo> gnomefreak, I even got streaming real media ja windows media things working. Now i don't miss anything from windows-world.
[08:51] <tomplast> thanks som1 ;)
[08:51] <tomplast> but im allready there :P
[08:51] <som1> oh, sorry
[08:51] <som1> and yeah im almost sure it is.
[08:51] <rickard> I got a hard drive using ntfs system, is it possible to see the files from ubuntu?
[08:51] <St0n3-C0l> yeah
[08:52] <Flying_Deagleman> hi all, I have a question....I have an SB Live! 24-bit sound card, and ubuntu reads it as a audigy LS.  This isn't true, of course, and I'd like to know how to get ubuntu to read it as an SB Live! 24bit.  On another note, I installed teamspeak, and it auto mutes my headphones, and my mic, how do I fix that?
[08:52] <St0n3-C0l> ;)
[08:52] <som1> tomplast, sudo apt-cache search tcl agrees with me ;)
[08:52] <kameron> rickard: yes. add this to /etc/fstab: /dev/hdb5       /media/ntfs     ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[08:52] <tomplast> :P
[08:52] <kameron> rickard: replace /dev/hdb5 with whatever your hd is. that just happens to be mine.
[08:52] <tomplast> thanks som1 :)
[08:52] <tomplast> i will look at it
[08:52] <polpak> !ntfs
[08:52] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[08:52] <veriz> !link
[08:52] <ubotu> [link]  broken
[08:52] <tomplast> take care som1
[08:52] <tomplast> bye
[08:52] <Jesusaurus-Rex> Ok, I need some serius help, my ubuntu bow didn't have the right "acelerated 3d driver" for my ATI card, so I followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI in the "Using the drivers from ati.com" section. now, when booting, it gets to the desktop, and everything but the mouse crashes, I made a backup of my original xorg.conf, and restoreing it does not solve the problem, any ideas?
[08:52] <Jesusaurus-Rex> *box
[08:53] <Maxhb> !list
[08:53] <ubotu> somebody said list was you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:53] <top222> Is there something wrong if 99% of the packages "apt-get upgrade" wants to install can't be authenticated?
[08:53] <polpak> Jesusaurus-Rex: also remove the kernel driver
[08:53] <poningru> metho: bad news
[08:53] <Jesusaurus-Rex> how?
[08:53] <korridoren> 
[08:53] <korridoren> f
[08:53] <poningru> metho: its not supported out of the box
[08:53] <polpak> Jesusaurus-Rex: /etc/modules I believe
[08:53] <blue-frog> top222, apt-get update should solve your problem..
[08:53] <poningru> metho: you are going to have to work for it
[08:53] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/F5D7000
[08:53] <metho> poningru: :(
[08:53] <top222> blue-frog: It didn't
[08:54] <metho> poningru: danm i am doomed, lol
[08:54] <poningru> metho: wait
[08:54] <ompaul> Jesusaurus-Rex, would dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?
[08:54] <Jesusaurus-Rex> polpak, I have no idea what file to delete in there
[08:54] <poningru> metho: did you say 7000 or 7010?
[08:54] <Jesusaurus-Rex> whats that do?
[08:54] <simonvc> Hey alll, where can i get the ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 sources from?
[08:54] <metho> poningru: 7010
[08:54] <polpak> Jesusaurus-Rex: do you have a line that says fglrx ?
[08:54] <ompaul> Jesusaurus-Rex, slight change >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<
[08:54] <nickrud> djk_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6761
[08:54] <metho> poningru: f5d7010
[08:54] <poningru> metho: oh
[08:54] <top222> blue-frog: Wait... I updated again and now it is gone.  Thanks.
[08:54] <poningru> metho: that should have worked out of the box
[08:54] <djk_> nickrud: thank you
[08:54] <Jesusaurus-Rex> ompaul, whats that do?
[08:54] <poningru> metho: hmm
[08:55] <Flying_Deagleman> hi all, I have a question....I have an SB Live! 24-bit sound card, and ubuntu reads it as a audigy LS.  This isn't true, of course, and I'd like to know how to get ubuntu to read it as an SB Live! 24bit.  On another note, I installed teamspeak, and it auto mutes my headphones, and my mic, how do I fix that?
[08:55] <poningru> metho: ok hold on
[08:55] <metho> poningru: ok!
[08:55] <gnomefreak> ok now ill be back need to boot to win yucky :(
[08:55] <Jesusaurus-Rex> ompaul, whats that do?
[08:56] <ompaul> reconfigures the video setup
[08:56] <poningru> metho: go to a terminal
[08:56] <metho> poningru: ok
[08:56] <Maxhb> does anyone know how to make an audio optical output work ???
[08:56] <poningru> metho: and type in iwconfig press enter
[08:56] <metho> poningru: i got three and they all say no wireless connection
[08:57] <poningru> metho: hmm
[08:57] <poningru> you sure it was plugged in when you started?
[08:57] <poningru> your computer I mean
[08:57] <metho> yeah
[08:57] <metho> u want me to restart again, just to make sure
[08:57] <coz> hello all
[08:58] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: actually, found a howto online: http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/
[08:58] <poningru> metho: yeah lets just try it again
[08:58] <poningru> metho: there are other things to do too but go ahead and restart just to make sure we its not something simple
[08:59] <metho> poningru: ok!!
[08:59] <salomo> Hey! Does anyone know how to make mplayer menus look better. Now they are quite ugly.
[09:00] <Davey`> salomo: step 1) Install Totem
[09:00] <salomo> Davey, Ok I'll give it a try..
[09:00] <poningru> salomo: yeah dude install couple of skins
[09:01] <poningru> salomo: no you dont have to switch to a different player
[09:01] <poningru> just install couple of skins
[09:01] <butcherbird> who was having problems with kubuntu-deskop packages?
[09:02] <cdubya> anyone use skype at all?
[09:02] <blue-frog> cdubya, yes
[09:02] <cdubya> blue-frog, did you have any issues getting it installed?
[09:02] <salomo> poningru, Ok I'll try some skins first.
[09:02] <cdubya> I'm getting a dep issue with libqt
[09:02] <St0n3-C0l> kameron: Thanks once again :)))
[09:03] <ompaul> cdubya, dont do that version there is a fixed one
[09:03] <blue-frog> cdubya, no
[09:03] <fbl-> someone who has some spare time for a noob ?
[09:03] <ompaul> !tell cdubya about skype
[09:03] <cdubya> ompaul, where?
[09:03] <metho> poningru: bad news, didnt work
[09:03] <ompaul> cdubya, read the bot message
[09:03] <metho> poningru:c:(
[09:03] <blue-frog> fbl fire up we'll see.
[09:03] <stgraber> hi
[09:03] <kameron> St0n3-c0l: no problem man. sorry i can't be of much more help, the only thing i did with grub on ubuntun was trash it :P
[09:03] <ompaul> !tell fbl- about anyone
[09:04] <fbl-> Well, i can't get the install running, meaning that i think it hangs somewhere
[09:04] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[09:04] <poningru> metho: hmm ok
[09:04] <cdubya> ompaul, k
[09:04] <poningru> metho: go into a terminal type in lspci
[09:04] <simonvc> Hey does anyone know how i can get the new kernel headers? 2.6.12-10-386?
[09:04] <poningru> metho: do you see your card in the list?
[09:04] <fbl-> i think it has some problems with my sata and or raid card
[09:04] <metho> poningru: 1 min m8
[09:05] <ompaul> fbl-, that is a little vague, care to say what is on the screen when it stops?
[09:05] <poningru> metho: take your time
[09:05] <blue-frog> cdubya, check the iso md5, if good boot abd type expert at boot prompt, then choose verify cd.
[09:05] <fbl-> well nothing, it's blue and grey and i can type, that's it
[09:05] <ompaul> fbl-, have you got the LiveCD ?
[09:05] <fbl-> ompaul no, breezy b cd
[09:05] <poningru> simonvc: why are you using a 386?
[09:06] <metho> poningru: yeah i see it, yes yes!!! >"0000:02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless  LAN Controller (rev 03)
[09:06] <metho> "
[09:06] <poningru> ok so it is recognized by your comp
[09:06] <fbl-> if i'm not mistaking it does that before i have to chose the hdd where it schould install
[09:06] <ompaul> blue-frog, who was that for?;-)
[09:06] <metho> poningru: yeah
[09:06] <davidlew> hello?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> hi
[09:06] <poningru> metho: ok type in iwconfig again
[09:07] <simonvc> poingru, im not using a 385, thats just the kernel name i got from uname -a
[09:07] <metho> poningru: ok
[09:07] <simonvc> ^^386
[09:07] <ompaul> fbl-, does it get to the point where it asks you about language and stuff?
[09:07] <davidlew> having problems getting a first-time install of UBUNTU on my Apple G5 imac to boot up..
[09:07] <cdubya> kewl, thanks ompaul
[09:07] <poningru> simonvc: what proc are you using? and is there a reason you are not using that kernel?
[09:07] <davidlew> cannot get YABOOT to install...
[09:07] <metho> poningru: nothing, it says no wireless externsins
[09:07] <poningru> wtf
[09:07] <poningru> ok this is very weird
[09:07] <ompaul> cdubya, enjoy
[09:07] <fbl-> ompaul yeah all that without any problem.. language, keyboard, until it scans the hdd
[09:08] <simonvc> poingru: its a newish laptop.. im just trying to find the headers for the normal ubuntu kernel that auto updated recently..
[09:08] <davidlew> anybody here know how to tweak YABOOT???
[09:08] <TheAsp> all the caps is making my head hurt
[09:08] <gnomefreak> !yaboot
[09:08] <ubotu> gnomefreak: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:08] <davidlew> I'm a LINUX "Newbie" unfortunately..
[09:08] <fbl-> ompaul but i have 1 SATA hdd installed and 1RAID PCI card installed :<
[09:08] <davidlew> sorry..  :-)
[09:08] <blue-frog> fbl-, , check the iso md5, if good boot abd type expert at boot prompt, then choose verify cd.
[09:09] <poningru> metho: I am confused dude
[09:09] <fbl-> cd is ok :)
[09:09] <metho> poningru: whats wrong
[09:09] <ompaul> fbl-, as the man says - it may be your sata - if you know the make and model I would use uncle google for it
[09:09] <poningru> simonvc: well its linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[09:09] <davidlew> hmm..
[09:09] <nickrud> davidlew, nothing to be sorry for. Yabooters do appear here now and then.
[09:09] <poningru> err
[09:10] <poningru> simonvc: linux-image-2.6.12-10-38
[09:10] <poningru> sorry
[09:10] <davidlew> sorry---just resetting this chat-client to display text at 24pt  (visually impaired at this end..)
[09:10] <poningru> metho: I dont understand why the you can see the thing but its not loading
[09:10] <poningru> metho: hold on let me seee something
[09:10] <davidlew> I'm not sure why not, either...
[09:10] <metho> poningru: ok
[09:11] <fbl-> ompaul i know the model, Silicon Image, and their site states : "You must use a kernel version of 2.4.18-14 or later to have SATA support for the SiI3x12. More recent kernel support SiI3114, SiI3124, and SiI3132."
[09:11] <kameron> i've been thinking about getting ubuntu intalled on my beige g3 mac.. anyone had experience dealing with old world macs? where you boot with BootX, and not yaboot? i currently have ydl 3.0.1 installed on there.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> 2.6 is later
[09:11] <simonvc> poingru: Thx that was what i needed.
[09:11] <user_> I've just installed ubuntu and its not working as it should...
[09:11] <davidlew> I get an error message: Failed to install bootloader--installation of the yaboot boot loader failed-please check the system log on the output on the third console (tty3)--warning your system may be unbootable
[09:11] <luk3> hey anyone can help me to setup a dial up connection?
[09:12] <poningru> metho: type this in your termina lsmod | grep 2.00
[09:12] <ompaul> fbl-, you are above that breezy is  2.6
[09:12] <metho> poningru: ok
[09:12] <gnomefreak> user_, what do you mean not working like it should?
[09:12] <poningru> metho: are you using breezy or hoary?
[09:12] <poningru> metho: 5.10 or 5.04?
[09:12] <nase> how do i stop kopete from popping up ALERTS? xxx is online ,etc
[09:12] <metho> poningru: ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[09:12] <poningru> metho: just checking
[09:12] <fbl-> ompaul indeed, so that shouldn't be the problem. still it get the blue and grey screen where i can type, but nothing happens there
[09:12] <user_> its asking me for passwords to update it and i set them all to the same yet it wont let me in.
[09:13] <poningru> cause the only in breezy this card became usable out of the box
[09:13] <idleData> make sure caps arent on
[09:13] <flames> how can i install w32codecs for breezy?
[09:13] <gnomefreak> user_, what are you using to get in and what are you trying to get in
[09:13] <metho> poningru: i typed lsmod | grep 2.00 and nothing happened which means something happen in linux world
[09:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell flames about codecs
[09:13] <davidlew> is there a private "room" here where somebody can discuss YABOOT with me?  all these streams of text are visually very confusing.
[09:13] <poningru> metho: try
[09:14] <user_> when i log in to ubuntu breezy badger... i get an update report saying i have 36 updates... i dont know the password... something to do with sudo...
[09:14] <poningru> lsmod | grep RT2500
[09:14] <gnomefreak> davidlew, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <poningru> lsmod | grep Rt2500
[09:14] <TheAsp> user_: it's your password
[09:14] <gnomefreak> see if someone in htere knows
[09:14] <luk3> how can i connect to tje internet through a 56k dial up connection?
[09:14] <user_> my login password???
[09:14] <davidlew> thanks..  not  quite sure how to get to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:14] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:14] <Bjelleklang> flames: try apt-get install w32-codecs
[09:14] <davidlew> where is it?
[09:14] <poningru> user_: yes your login password
[09:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell user_ about sudo
[09:14] <ompaul> fbl-, I am at a loss, I do have one mad cap idea providing your sure the disk is okay - it is this - reboot the box and when it pauses a few seconds into the boot type "server" as the install after that when the box reboots login and >>sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop<<
[09:14] <poningru> metho: try those two commands
[09:14] <kameron> !tell flames about win32codecs
[09:14] <Bjelleklang> sorry, w32codecs
[09:14] <user_> but that doesnt work cuz its password
[09:14] <metho> poningru: ok
[09:15] <poningru> user_: your password
[09:15] <Bjelleklang> or see this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:15] <gnomefreak> user_, read up on sudo please
[09:15] <poningru> user_: your login password
[09:15] <kameron> flames: you likely don't have w32codecs in your sources.list
[09:15] <poningru> Bjelleklang: please dont recomend ubuntuguide
[09:15] <poningru> !ubuntuguide
[09:15] <Bjelleklang> oh?
[09:15] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:15] <gnomefreak> the same password you logged into ubuntu with is the same password you will use
[09:15] <poningru> !easybreezy
[09:15] <ubotu> poningru: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:15] <idleData> user_>  when you type in your password you wont see any * just type it in and hit enter
[09:15] <poningru> !easybreazy
[09:15] <Bjelleklang> ok, thanks
[09:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, poningru
[09:15] <poningru> grr
[09:15] <gnomefreak> !easyubuntu
[09:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[09:15] <poningru> oh
[09:15] <poningru> doh
[09:15] <gnomefreak> poningru, that one?
[09:15] <poningru> yeah but what happend to the website?
[09:15] <metho> poningru: i typed those two commands and went ok!
[09:16] <gnomefreak> poningru,  dont know
[09:16] <poningru> metho: so it didnt show anything?
[09:16] <metho> poningru: no
[09:16] <nickrud> my, those easyubuntu guys are cautious :)
[09:17] <poningru> metho: hmm ok so the rt2500 module isnt loaded for you
[09:17] <poningru> lets try loading that it should work after that
[09:17] <kp_sacher> a
[09:17] <ompaul> nickrud, well that might be better than being wreckless :)
[09:17] <poningru> hold on
[09:17] <jasonk123> i can't get AIM to install for ubuntu linux
[09:17] <luk3> nobody knows!!??
[09:17] <metho> poningru: ok
[09:18] <gnomefreak> jasonk123, aim 1.5 is garbage go with gaim
[09:18] <BearHunter> Is anyone else having trouble accessing the ubuntu help website?
[09:18] <idleData> ubotu tell jasonk123  about amsn
[09:18] <flames> !easysource
[09:18] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:18] <jasonk123> i go with it now
[09:18] <nickrud> ompaul, wreckless is a nice state all to itself ;)
[09:18] <simonvc> ??whats the command that shows keypresses? (like for acpi keys on a laptop\?)
[09:18] <jasonk123> i use GAIM now..after aim didn't work
[09:18] <poningru> simonvc: xev
[09:18] <Sanne> luk3: sorry, I'm on broadband, I wouldn't know how to set up a modem connection.
[09:18] <jasonk123> who here is using ubuntu linux
[09:18] <jasonk123> ????????????????????
[09:18] <ompaul> luk3, go here on the menu  >> system - administration - networking <<
[09:18] <luk3> okay!
[09:18] <TheAsp> no one?
[09:18] <idleData> jasonk123>  most everyone
[09:19] <simonvc> lol
[09:19] <jasonk123> me 2
[09:19] <luk3> i tried already
[09:19] <jorgp> jasonk123: nobody here is
[09:19] <gnomefreak> jasonk123, aim 1.5 isnt the easiest to install and aim 1.5 is crap no extras you cant iggy anything either
[09:19] <simonvc> id say everyone.
[09:19] <luk3> it says that the modem device is active
[09:19] <BearHunter> i am just about to . . .
[09:19] <jasonk123> i'm using ubuntu on emulator
[09:19] <kameron> why doesn't http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic have universe or multiverse?
[09:19] <butcherbird> luk3: you should be able to put a number and login info there right?
[09:19] <BearHunter> what is the best way to setup a dual boot ubuntu/windows xp? I haven't installed either yet
[09:19] <jasonk123> linux has lack of drivers
[09:20] <luk3> yup!
[09:20] <luk3> i did!
[09:20] <nickrud> kameron, it does, look again
[09:20] <gnomefreak> BearHunter, windows first
[09:20] <gnomefreak> ubuntu last
[09:20] <ompaul> jasonk123, em it has more out of the box that windows :-)
[09:20] <jasonk123> BearHunter, Install Windows then Install ubuntu linux
[09:20] <BearHunter> ok
[09:20] <luk3> then it says that it's active
[09:20] <kameron> nickrud: hmmm.. i don't see it? searched for it too.
[09:20] <ompaul> luk3, then you can work with it?
[09:20] <BearHunter> so windows becomes boot partition?
[09:20] <luk3> i was wonder if there is some kind of a dialer
[09:20] <jasonk123> I tried installing Linux first then Windows..what a hell going through
[09:20] <luk3> yup!
[09:21] <luk3>  i cannot
[09:21] <Bea> When i log in i have to enter a password to update via sudo...  when i enter my password it says... Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[09:21] <Bea>  The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> kameron, it has them
[09:21] <Paqito> Hi. I have a question. What are Ubuntu minimum requirements?
[09:21] <top222> If there is a Cardbus WLAN card that works with Ubuntu out of the box, what would you recommend?
[09:21] <kameron> gnomefreak, nickrud: is it called something other than multiverse and universe?
[09:21] <nickrud> kameron, I just looked, it's the community supported stuff (not very clear)
[09:21] <flames> i download w32codec...i386.deb and install it with dpkg -i ... is this ok?
[09:21] <kameron> nickrud: ah, okay
[09:22] <jorgp> flames: sure
[09:22] <ompaul> luk3, I have not got a modem to follow your actions sorry, maybe someone else has, type modem in the search box on http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <gnomefreak> kameron, its in either the first or second section
[09:22] <BearHunter> so if i have two hardrives, i install windows on the boot partition then ubuntu on the other drive?
[09:22] <gnomefreak> if you click them they will show up
[09:22] <gnomefreak> after you send it
[09:22] <luk3> thanks a lot!
[09:22] <Bea> i have a question...
[09:22] <Paqito> I have an old celeron with Windows XP and I am trying to  move to Linux. Someone told me about Ubuntu. But I am not sure if it will work at my PC
[09:22] <butcherbird> Paqito: have run server install w/blackbox on p133 16mb ram.. prob dont want to try gnome on that :)
[09:22] <korridoren> Nvidia+Ubuntu=problem. Have gone through all avai. guides. With "nv" drive I get good working 2D-acc with nice res and refresh rate, when I change to "nvidia" drive I loose high res (1600x1200) but gain 3D-acc. Refreshrate is fine. I've tried reducing colorDepth, adding Modlines. Hsync and Vsync are set to correct val for my monitor. Is this problem solveable?
[09:23] <butcherbird> Paqito: check out xubuntu
[09:23] <Paqito> butcherbird tnaks
[09:23] <Paqito> thanks, indeed
[09:23] <kameron> gnomefreak: i see, i see.
[09:24] <Inf3ctedFx> I have a question i'm following the howto on ubuntu forum about how to enable my sound to work with multiples sounds, but I got to the point is asking me to do a gedit on /etc/asound.conf but I dont have that file...
[09:24] <kameron> gnomefreak: i have official, universe, multiverse, and seveas. but i can't find package gmplayer. do you know what it's a part of?
[09:24] <kameron> gnomefreak: and i did apt-get update
[09:24] <ompaul> luk3, just a quick question is it is an internal modem or a serial modem?
[09:24] <flames> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb <- this is 403 forbidden for me!?
[09:24] <luk3> internal
[09:24] <luk3> PCI
[09:24] <gnomefreak> no i dont but my list is alot longer than that try the backports
[09:24] <ompaul> luk3, is it a winmodem?
[09:25] <kameron> gnomefreak: roger
[09:25] <Seveas> kameron, it's part of multiverse
[09:25] <Seveas> !info gmplayer
[09:25] <luk3> i am not sure!?!
[09:25] <Bea> Can some one help me please...
[09:25] <Seveas> !info mplayer
[09:25] <Seveas> kameron, it's part of the mplayer-$arch packages
[09:25] <Seveas> !info mplayer-586
[09:25] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[09:25] <flames> where can i download w32codecs deb?
[09:25] <luk3> what do ya mean by '' a winmodem''?
[09:25] <Seveas> !tell flames about w32codecs
[09:26] <MERT> selam
[09:26] <gnomefreak> flames i gave you the link like 20 mins ago
[09:26] <poningru> metho: ok here we go
[09:26] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/DriverAndRaconfig
[09:27] <Inf3ctedFx> anyone has an idea?
[09:27] <poningru> metho: follow the instructions to install the driver
[09:27] <metho> poningru: thanks!!!
[09:27] <metho> poningru: u r the man
[09:27] <poningru> metho: you dont need to install the raconfig/rautil thingy though
[09:27] <user_> what do i do if i get a message saying  When i log in i have to enter a password to update via sudo...  when i enter my password it says... Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[09:27] <user_> Bea  The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator. when i enter a password to update ubuntu...
[09:28] <nickrud> kameron, I was away for a second, if you're still looking for gmplayer it's in the mplayer package
[09:28] <Inf3ctedFx> I have a question i'm following the howto on ubuntu forum about how to enable my sound to work with multiples sounds, but I got to the point is asking me to do a gedit on /etc/asound.conf but I dont have that file...
[09:28] <metho> poningru: so just install the drivers than?
[09:28] <flames> "can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk" what is this?
[09:28] <poningru> metho: yep
[09:28] <poningru> and the adding module part
[09:28] <MertTezer> selam
[09:28] <metho> poningru: ok
[09:28] <j2daosh> hows it going everyone
[09:28] <idleData> flames> ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76910.html
[09:28] <trae> bmpx?
[09:29] <trae> !bmpx
[09:29] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, trae
[09:29] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[09:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:29] <kameron> nickrud: i'm building a new sources.list that's bloated with everything, and i'll try again, it's updating now.
[09:29] <poningru> yeah just uptill it says 'sudo insmod rt2500.ko'
[09:29] <trae> hmmm
[09:29] <trae> gnomefreak, seen crimsun lately?
[09:29] <poningru> Seveas: wasnt there a website for easyubuntu?
[09:29] <gnomefreak> flames you will find those repos in easysource
[09:29] <poningru> it disapeared from ubotu
[09:29] <gnomefreak> trae, not today
[09:29] <trae> hope he's ok.
[09:29] <poningru> !easyubuntu
[09:29] <ubotu> easyubuntu is probably a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu
[09:29] <gnomefreak> poningru, no it didnt
[09:29] <trae> haven't seen him on in a while.
[09:29] <flames> !easysource
[09:29] <metho> poningru: no problem ponin
[09:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:30] <poningru> metho: yep
[09:30] <nickrud> flames, make your life easy, go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:30] <gnomefreak> nickrud, how hard can it be to click a button or two and add to your sources list :(
[09:30] <BearHunter> If i want to dual boot, I install windows on my boot drive (primary master) and install ubuntu on the secondary (slave)??
[09:30] <JoeBlow> !grub
[09:30] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[09:31] <drayen> hey, im haveing real problems with my /dev/sda, it seems all my superblocks  (well the 6 i've tried) have bad magic numbers yet, dumpe2fs contains all sorts of relvent data - anyh anyone help me recover? (bit of a newbie, but learning fast)
[09:31] <SinnerG> I got this error while dist-upgrade'ing to breezy
[09:31] <SinnerG> rrors were encountered while processing:
[09:31] <SinnerG>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdevelop3-data_4%3a3.2.3-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[09:31] <SinnerG> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:31] <gnomefreak> BearHunter, that is fine
[09:31] <nickrud> gnomefreak, it's a matter of trust, if you're not sure about what you're doing, it's not stupid to do nothing
[09:31] <Inf3ctedFx> anyone can give me an idea about my question??
[09:31] <BearHunter> thankyou :))
[09:31] <nickrud> although, source-o-matic is the bomb
[09:31] <poningru> !easyubuntu is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[09:31] <ubotu> okay, poningru
[09:32] <jasonk123> UBOTU UR GAY!!!!!
[09:32] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, jasonk123
[09:32] <Gaap> hi all
[09:32] <Inf3ctedFx> I have a question i'm following the howto on ubuntu forum about how to enable my sound to work with multiples sounds, but I got to the point is asking me to do a gedit on /etc/asound.conf but I dont have that file... do I have to create  the file? or is suppost to be there...
[09:32] <jasonk123> Bugger all, i dunno,
[09:32] <jasonk123> shut up..ubotu!!!!
[09:33] <stgraber> Inf3ctedFx: you have to create it
[09:33] <erUSUL> Inf3ctedFx, just create it it will do no harm
[09:33] <Inf3ctedFx> oks
[09:33] <Inf3ctedFx> thx
[09:33] <flames> thx everybody, it's downloading
[09:33] <korridoren> Question : Is there any setup-util for the nvidia "nv" driver that corresponds to the "nvidia" nvidia-settings util?
[09:33] <poningru> Inf3ctedFx: you will probably have to do 'sudo gedit /etc/asound.conf'
[09:34] <luk3> hey... what about partitioning my HD with ubuntu
[09:34] <luk3> how can i do that?
[09:34] <poningru> luk3: gparted
[09:34] <poningru> or qtparted
[09:34] <Inf3ctedFx> oks poningru
[09:34] <luk3> yup but..
[09:34] <luk3> i dont have it installed
[09:34] <poningru> just grab it from synaptic
[09:34] <stgraber> About partitioning, is there any tool to edit LVM graphically (like resize, add an harddisk, ...) ?
[09:34] <luk3> and i dont have a connection seted in my ubuntu SO
[09:35] <poningru> luk3: what do you mean?
[09:35] <Manifold> Guys.
[09:35] <poningru> luk3: you dont have internet connection?
[09:35] <Manifold> How do I execute a .py program?
[09:35] <luk3> i am running windows xp right now
[09:35] <luk3> yup
[09:35] <poningru> Manifold: python foo.py
[09:35] <erUSUL> stgraber, afaik you can use evms tools for that
[09:35] <JoeBlow> I hate installing windows xp, cause grub always messes with me, im doing drub install now
[09:35] <luk3> i can figure out how to dial up a connection with ubuntu
[09:36] <JoeBlow> It will be nice in the future, when linux is better for games and easier, then it will destroy windows completely
[09:36] <erUSUL> luk3, use pppconfig
[09:36] <nickrud> luk3, if you have an external modem, you can use pppconfig very nicely
[09:36] <poningru> JoeBlow: it will happen with ps3, because then switching over to linux is not going to be that hard especially on power arch
[09:36] <luk3> mine is a PCI internal modem
[09:36] <Octon> Trying to set options for my nvidia driver in ubuntu... Doesn't seem like I have an /etc/modules.conf, what's the equiv?  (or should I just touch this file)
[09:37] <poningru> !tell luk3 about winmodem
[09:37] <Manifold> Aha. Thank you, poningru.
[09:37] <JoeBlow> poningru, gonna be sweet. I cant wait to never have to touch another Microshaft product again
[09:37] <luk3> where can i find pppconfig?
[09:37] <kameron> seveas, nickrud, gnomefreak, here's my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6765 and i still can't find gmplayer
[09:37] <nickrud> well, it depends on the modem, then, luk3 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[09:37] <Seveas> kameron, the package is called mplayer-586, not gmplayer
[09:37] <gnomefreak> kameron, search for mplayer not gmplayer
[09:38] <poningru> luk3: I think actually gparted is in your ubuntu-cd
[09:38] <mark_> hi
[09:38] <luk3> is it?
[09:38] <poningru> Seveas: do you know? if gparted is included in the cd?
[09:38] <poningru> luk3: hold on
[09:38] <nickrud> luk3, it's in main
[09:38] <luk3> sure
[09:38] <gnomefreak> poningru, you hav eto install it
[09:38] <gnomefreak> have to*
[09:38] <JoeBlow> my harddrive is sda1, so what command do i use for , root (hdX,X) ?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> i think its in main repo
[09:39] <poningru> if its in main then its in the cd right?
[09:39] <kameron> seveas, gnomefreak: ah, okay. usually (well, from my experiences at least) there's mplayer, and then a seperate package, gmplayer, that goes on top, or any other front end.
[09:39] <poningru> yeah I am pretty sure it is in it
[09:39] <korridoren> Question : Have gone through all avai. guides. With "nv" drive I get good working 2D-acc with nice res and refresh rate, when I change to "nvidia" drive I loose high res (1600x1200) but gain 3D-acc. Refreshrate is fine. I've tried reducing colorDepth, adding Modlines. Hsync and Vsync are set to correct val for my monitor. So how do I get High res with 3D?
[09:39] <poningru> luk3: put in your ubuntu cd, then go into synaptic and try and install it
[09:39] <poningru> !info gparted
[09:39] <poningru> stupid bot
[09:39] <gnomefreak> poningru, im not sure if it is or not i dont use cd repo :))
[09:39] <nickrud> kameron, this is ubuntu, your world has shifted :)
[09:39] <poningru> hehe
[09:40] <kameron> nickrud: i guess so? i did mdk and ydl for years.. i have to say, i like apt-get a lot more than yum or urpmi
[09:40] <JoeBlow> I like mplayer, just make sure u set your driver to xv and install the optional fonts package
[09:40] <blanky> !recoverubuntuafterinstallingwindows
[09:40] <ubotu> I don't know, blanky
[09:40] <blanky> !recover
[09:40] <ubotu> recover is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:40] <luk3> alright
[09:40] <JoeBlow> !grub
[09:40] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[09:40] <poningru> blanky: its in !grub
[09:40] <blanky> got it already, thanks
[09:40] <nickrud> kameron, I've been a happy apt user for years. The original is still the best, I hear.
[09:41] <kameron> nickrud: the original what is still the best?
[09:41] <poningru> kameron: apt
[09:41] <kameron> ...nickrud, poningru what do you mean?
[09:41] <poningru> apt > aptitude >synaptic
[09:41] <JoeBlow> anyone ever installed grub on a sata drive? what do i use in the grub installer, instead of (hd,0,0)
[09:42] <JoeBlow> its not hda, its sda
[09:42] <kameron> poningru: oh okay, right right.
[09:42] <nickrud> kameron, apt is the library that decodes dependencies and the like: yum and such are also rans :)
[09:42] <sorush20> guys what sound plugins do need to add to be able to run multiple sound programs.. like to run skype and amarok at the same time.?
[09:42] <poningru> !alsa
[09:42] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:42] <kameron> poningru: wtf is aptitude.. i've used synaptic.
[09:42] <metho> poningru: i am stuck at make part (i am in cd ./rt2500*/Module) and i extracted the files in /home/metho therefore i can not use the make command
[09:42] <coz> sorush20 alsa will do
[09:43] <gnomefreak> kameron, aptitude is apt
[09:43] <gnomefreak> apt=short and you can run either
[09:43] <poningru> metho: try sudo make
[09:43] <metho> ok
[09:43] <butcherbird> JoeBlow: i would think (sd0,1) etc
[09:43] <gnomefreak> sudo aptitude ..... or sudo apt-get
[09:43] <poningru> !aptitude
[09:43] <ubotu> well, aptitude is like apt-get or synaptic, but uses a full-screen text interface, or the replacement/user front end for apt-get as of Debian Sarge
[09:43] <poningru> ubotu: bot snack
[09:43] <ubotu> :)
[09:44] <kameron> gnomefreak: oh, i just ran it. it's CLI apt.. kind of confusing
[09:44] <metho> poningru: its all done
[09:44] <metho> poningru: what shell i do next
[09:44] <gnomefreak> kameron, thats why most people use apt if im not mistaken aptitude can do things apt cant but not sure
[09:44] <nickrud> kameron, you can also use it from the command line in place of apt-get. It has some extra capabilities
[09:44] <mvdg> Hi there,
[09:45] <kameron> nickrud what sort of capabilities?
[09:45] <poningru> metho: jsut restart and use network settings
[09:45] <poningru> err networking
[09:45] <poningru> from system->administration
[09:45] <mvdg> Does anyone know how to configure a second monitor to my dell d800 without losing the screen resolution
[09:45] <nickrud> the most likeable is it tracks dependencies of a package you install. After you uninstall that package, it will remove any unused dependencies.
[09:45] <metho> poningru: ok, i hope it works this time, finger cross
[09:45] <kameron> nickrud: apt can do that can't it?
[09:45] <metho> poningru: lol
[09:45] <nickrud> plus, it has some extra search and other functions
[09:45] <poningru> hehe good luck
[09:46] <SealyDave> hi
[09:46] <nickrud> kameron, no, apt-get does not
[09:46] <gnomefreak> nickrud, doesnt it only do that if you install it with aptitude?
[09:46] <kameron> nickrud: hmm, okay. i thought there was an option to do that.
[09:46] <nickrud> gnomefreak, but of course.
[09:46] <Diogo> #irc
[09:46] <Diogo> e ae gakera
[09:46] <poningru> !es
[09:46] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:46] <gnomefreak> anyone know what lang. that is?
[09:47] <Diogo> num estou entendendo nada do que vcs estao falando
[09:47] <Diogo> hehehehehe
[09:47] <poningru> assuming espana
[09:47] <kameron> gnomefreak: espanol
[09:47] <Diogo> ai galera estou testando esse sistema aqui
[09:47] <SealyDave> i cant switch to su in terminal , but can sudo apt get, what gives, says authentication failure?
[09:47] <nickrud> um, mexican :)
[09:47] <poningru> oh
[09:47] <gnomefreak> looks right after what he posted 2nd time
[09:47] <poningru> SealyDave: we dont use su here
[09:47] <erUSUL> !tell Diogo about pt
[09:47] <gnomefreak> SealyDave, dont use su use sudo
[09:47] <poningru> brb
[09:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell SealyDave about rootsudo
[09:48] <luk3> humm GParted is not on ubuntu CD!
[09:48] <erUSUL> portuguese
[09:48] <asteroid> I try to run a Quickcam Express (working fine on slack) but Xawtv (or camarama) do not find /dev/video0. Module is load, what can be the fuck ?
[09:48] <Diogo> acuma
[09:48] <mwe> SealyDave: use sudo -i if you need a root prompt
[09:48] <gnomefreak> i cant check right now :(
[09:48] <asteroid> /dev/video* do not exist
[09:48] <luk3> erUSUL, what about portuguese?
[09:48] <Diogo> no saco nada de outra lingua ai pra me ajudar
[09:48] <gnomefreak> go to packages.ubuntu.com it will tell you what repo it is in
[09:49] <poningru> luk3: did it work?
[09:49] <poningru> crap
[09:49] <luk3> nope
[09:49] <Diogo> :
[09:49] <Diogo> :
[09:49] <mvdg> Does anyone know how to connect a second monitor to my Dell d800
[09:49] <luk3> it's not on ubuntu cd
[09:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i release my soundcard from running processes ?
[09:49] <asteroid> mvdg, a laptop ?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> luk3, go to packages.ubuntu.com and find what repo it is in
[09:49] <Diogo> :}
[09:49] <erUSUL> luk3, Diogo is speaking portuguese...
[09:49] <kameron> !pt
[09:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:49] <Diogo> sim prtugueses
[09:50] <gnomefreak> im on win running a crap load of stuff or i would :(
[09:50] <luk3> from brazil?
[09:50] <luk3> or portugal?
[09:50] <Diogo> sim brasil
[09:50] <SealyDave> mwe thanks
[09:50] <gnomefreak> luk3, same lang.
[09:50] <luk3> yup!
[09:50] <kameron> Diogo por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt
[09:50] <Diogo> grato
[09:50] <kameron> werd
[09:51] <Diogo> #ubuntu-pt
[09:51] <mvdg> sorry don't speak any brazillian
[09:51] <kameron> diogo: /join #ubuntu-pt
[09:51] <metho> poningru: didnt work m8!!!
[09:51] <poningru> oh crap
[09:51] <metho> poningru: didnt work m8!!!
[09:51] <Diogo> a sim grato
[09:51] <kameron> werd
[09:51] <metho> poningru: i know m8
[09:51] <poningru> do
[09:51] <luk3> kameron, do you speak portuguese?
[09:51] <poningru> lsmod | 2.00
[09:51] <poningru> again
[09:51] <gnomefreak> dmesg output yet?
[09:52] <nase> !limewire
[09:52] <ubotu> limewire is probably first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[09:52] <SealyDave> so i downloaded easykubuntu installed it for plugins, but none of my plugins work?
[09:52] <metho> poningru: ok
[09:52] <kameron> luk3 pff, no. i just copied what ubotu said, and assume that "grato" means thank you.
[09:52] <poningru> luk3: do you have an ubuntu-live cd?
[09:52] <asteroid> why if I `mknod` /dev/video, after reboot there is not ?
[09:52] <luk3> lol
[09:52] <luk3> nice
[09:52] <kameron> ;)
[09:52] <luk3> yup!
[09:52] <poningru> luk3: you do?
[09:53] <tafsen> System > Admin > Disks doesn't work. Anyone?
[09:53] <luk3> yup
[09:53] <luk3> i do!
[09:53] <poningru> luk3: that has gparted in it
[09:53] <poningru> just boot it up
[09:53] <luk3> where
[09:53] <metho> poningru: lsmod | 2.00) it says command not found
[09:53] <Diogo>  /join #ubuntu-pt
[09:53] <luk3> i have checked it on tool folder
[09:53] <butcherbird> tafsen: what are you trying to do?
[09:53] <mwe> folder?
[09:53] <luk3> i mean POOL
[09:53] <poningru> metho: doh
[09:53] <tafsen> butcherbird, just trying to open it
[09:54] <luk3> folder
[09:54] <poningru> metho: lsmod | grep 2.00
[09:54] <poningru> my bad
[09:54] <metho> np
[09:54] <poningru> luk3?
[09:54] <metho> poningru: it worked
[09:54] <tafsen> butcherbird, There was an error running the backend script
[09:54] <luk3> what!?
[09:54] <poningru> metho: ?
[09:54] <Diogo> ae frends no conseguindo ainda
[09:55] <Diogo> plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:55] <luk3> what !?poningru
[09:55] <chadash> anybody here using supybot?
[09:55] <poningru> luk3: nothing, you said pool folder
[09:55] <metho> poningru: command didnt do anything so it means that the command was ok
[09:55] <Diogo> help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:55] <gnomefreak> what is supybot?
[09:55] <poningru> metho: no it should have listed stuff
[09:55] <Chris_in_the_uk> hey, i'm having trouble intstalling ubuntu onto a pc from a CD.  I've followed the wiki tutorials but i'm getting errors halfway through.
[09:55] <mwe> !helpme
[09:55] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:55] <poningru> metho: try just lsmod
[09:55] <luk3> yup
[09:55] <metho> ok
[09:56] <luk3> pool> main
[09:56] <nase> !java
[09:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:56] <poningru> luk3: oh you mean like that
[09:56] <SealyDave> how do i change to su in mc
[09:56] <tafsen> butcherbird, Can you help me?
[09:56] <metho> poningru: it listed all sort of stuff, what am i lookinf for in there
[09:56] <poningru> metho: somethin like rt2500
[09:56] <butcherbird> tafsen: thought you might be looking for a terminal solution dont know gnome..
[09:56] <Diogo> alguem ajuda help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:56] <luk3> it was the ony main folder i found !
[09:56] <mwe> someone kick Diogo please
[09:57] <gnomefreak> SealyDave, what do you mean su?
[09:57] <gnomefreak> !ops
[09:57] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[09:57] <SealyDave> superuser
[09:57] <metho> ok
[09:57] <bud> salut
[09:57] <nase> Diogo, seu mongol vai pro #ubuntu-br
[09:57] <nickrud> Diogo, #ubuntu-pt
[09:57] <nalioth> gnomefreak: may i help you?
[09:57] <luk3> hahahahha
[09:57] <gnomefreak> mwe asked something
[09:57] <luk3> that was cool!!
[09:57] <Diogo> mas como vou pra la e que no sei
[09:57] <mwe> nalioth: Diogo keeps being annoying
[09:57] <luk3> nase!
[09:57] <nickrud> hey, nalioth wass happinin
[09:57] <sorush20> guys where is skype 2.0?
[09:57] <luk3> hehehe
[09:57] <bud> francais ?
[09:57] <nase> Diogo, ueh tecla /join #ubuntu-br
[09:57] <nalioth> Diogo: vaya de el #ubuntu-br
[09:57] <poningru> !skype
[09:57] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:58] <gnomefreak> ty sir
[09:58] <nalioth> !fr
[09:58] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:58] <mwe> nalioth: we told him several times to join antoher channel but he keeps acting lame
[09:58] <Seveas> nase Please adhere to the code of conduct
[09:58] <Chris_in_the_uk> !install
[09:58] <ubotu> install is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[09:58] <nase> Seveas, what did i do wrong
[09:58] <bud> nouveau sur linux
[09:58] <nase> i was just helping the guy
[09:58] <nase> he didnt know ho to join the proper channel
[09:58] <nalioth> bud: #ubuntu-fr
[09:58] <nase> and doesnt speak english
[09:58] <nase> so WHAT did i do?:
 Diogo, seu mongol vai pro #ubuntu-br
[09:58] <P3TU-> hey mzlla
[09:58] <nalioth> nase: you are fine
[09:58] <Seveas> 'mongol'//
[09:59] <mzlla> hey
[09:59] <nase> mongol in portuguese isnt what you think it is
[09:59] <P3TU-> aattelin vaan tulla tnne
[09:59] <Berg> hello
[09:59] <P3TU-> mut m lhen koht
[09:59] <Berg> I am back
[09:59] <Seveas> nase, then I'm sorry
[09:59] <poningru> metho: doh I forgot to tell you something
[09:59] <nalioth> P3TU-: english please in here
[09:59] <poningru> metho: to load the module
[10:00] <poningru> metho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo/DriverAndRaconfig#head-f65d067202a0c0609377d7b5d5827f647a36adbb
[10:00] <metho> poningru: yeah
[10:00] <poningru> follow from step 3
[10:00] <wmiles> when I try to mount /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1, the system hangs... has anybody seen this before?
[10:00] <Berg> I am using XP now after finding all my device driver CD's and everything is back to normal, I just bought a new router and I am planning to install it shortly
[10:00] <metho> poningru: ok
[10:00] <mwe> Berg: I guess you got lost after trying to restart X windows yesterday?
[10:00] <Berg> nah
[10:00] <Berg> I have done it numerous times
[10:01] <Berg> now I want to take a shot at *drumrolls* DUAL BOOTING!
[10:01] <mwe> Berg: it's easy
[10:01] <Berg> yay
[10:01] <Berg> I am using mIRC right now
[10:02] <luk3> alright, alright...
[10:02] <mwe> Berg: the installer sets up a dual boot for you if you install linux after windows
[10:02] <poningru> wmiles: because there is already an /media/sda1 for usb mounts
[10:02] <Berg> kewl
[10:02] <luk3> now here are some questions for you guys
[10:02] <SealyDave> if i uninstalled firefox 1.07 and dependency packages, and reinstalled 1.5 from web, would i end up kicking myself in the ass ?
[10:02] <Berg> will it slow my computer down alot?
[10:02] <gnomefreak> luk3, ask away :)
[10:02] <Peter> whats the command to relaunch the xorg config setup?
[10:02] <poningru> !tell SealyDave about firefox1.5
[10:02] <gnomefreak> SealyDave, you might
[10:02] <luk3> i am running ubuntu on a 64 bits plataform
[10:02] <|stefan_|> hellu =)
[10:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SealyDave about firefox15
[10:02] <nickrud> gnomefreak, maybe you could be the guinea pig for the iTunes stuff on restricted formats :)
[10:03] <mwe> Peter: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts X
[10:03] <poningru> nalioth: too slow :P
[10:03] <nalioth> SealyDave: you'll break a lot of functionality in your box, follow the instructions
[10:03] <poningru> j/k
[10:03] <gnomefreak> lol nickrud thats what i was trying to avoid :)
[10:03] <gerald-volt> how do I use apt-get to search for an installed program?
[10:03] <gerald-volt> and then delete it?
[10:03] <Peter> mwe: is there a way to set it up again? i screwed up the resolutions i need
[10:03] <Berg> will duall booting slow down my computer alot?
[10:03] <metho> poningru: i got the following error<cp: cannot stat `/home/metho/rt2500-cvs-daily/Module/rt2500.ko': No such file or directory
[10:03] <metho> )))
[10:03] <mwe> Peter: killingg everything though
[10:03] <gerald-volt> or uninstall
[10:03] <mwe> Peter: yeah
[10:03] <luk3> so obviously that i should download the AMD64 packet files right!?!!
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Berg, no it shouldnt have any affect on speed
[10:03] <Berg> good
[10:03] <Berg> how will it work though?
[10:03] <mwe> Peter: back up your current config first though
[10:04] <gnomefreak> Berg, dual booting your still only running one OS at a time
[10:04] <Peter> yeah
[10:04] <Peter> how do i run it?
[10:04] <Berg> oj
[10:04] <Berg> ok
[10:04] <poningru> metho: make sure you are have the file there
[10:04] <kameron> Berg: you install a bootloader, and it gives you the option to boot to either windows or linux, no performance loss at all
[10:04] <poningru> metho: where did you make it to?
[10:04] <mwe> Peter: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:04] <Berg> good
[10:04] <Berg> so I choose everytime I boot or what?
[10:04] <Darky469> hello everyone
[10:04] <borisattva> has anyone experienced sudden slowness in firefox page loads after switching to linux?
[10:04] <poningru> metho: follow that path and find out where your rt2500.ko is
[10:05] <kameron> Berg: you can, but you can also set a default, so that it auto boots to one choice after a certain amount of time has passed (say three seconds, or whatever you decide)
[10:05] <SealyDave> whats the deal with opt/firefox, why that directory?
[10:05] <Berg> borisattva: yes when I did it
[10:05] <luk3> but right now i am running win xp
[10:05] <gnomefreak> maybe if i get back to ubuntu tonight i will attempt one of the ipod programs
[10:05] <poningru> borisattva: yes if you are using firefox 1.0.7
[10:05] <luk3> now my doubt is...
[10:05] <Kindred> can an ipod do drag and drop like every other mp3 player?.. ha totally off subject but someone mentioned it.
[10:05] <Berg> good
[10:05] <poningru> borisattva: use 1.5
[10:05] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[10:05] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:05] <Berg> I dont think my parents are comfortable with a new OS...
[10:05] <Peter> mwe: how would i find out my video card bus identifier?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> lspci
[10:05] <mwe> Peter: just press enter on that one
[10:05] <kameron> Berg: they probably won't be. i can show you how to install linux so that they will never ever notice though.
[10:05] <navarone> borisattva, you may wish to disable ipv6 in firefox setting type about:config in address bar and find network.ipv6 setting and toggle to true
[10:06] <Berg> nah
[10:06] <luk3> does it come zipped(compressed) or it will run installation as soon as the download is iver?
[10:06] <Berg> they barely use the computer
[10:06] <luk3> over*
[10:06] <kameron> Berg: okay. that's how i did it when i was 15.
[10:06] <nickrud> Berg, set up what they do, and they won't know the diff
[10:06] <kameron> Berg: oh, okay.
[10:06] <metho> poningru: is that the file u r talking about /home/metho/rt2500-1.1.0-b3
[10:06] <gerald-volt> how do i use apt-get to uninstall a package
[10:06] <nickrud> apt-get remove <pkg>
[10:06] <mwe> gerald-volt: sudo apt-get install foobar
[10:06] <navarone> apt-get remove
[10:06] <mwe> gerald-volt: sorry
[10:06] <gnomefreak> gerald-volt, sudo apt-get remove <package
[10:06] <gerald-volt> fankyou
[10:06] <mwe> gerald-volt: you said uninstall :)
[10:07] <gnomefreak> or apt-get remove --purge <package>
[10:07] <Berg> my mom got mad at me when I formatted since she had some important files (for church (she is sometimes minister)) and then I tought them the importance of backing up your files
[10:07] <gnomefreak> no no no fank you sir :)
[10:07] <borisattva> thanks guys.. i didnt even notice its an older version. any idea why its not listed in symantics?
[10:07] <kameron> Berg: what i did when i installed on my parents comp years ago, i set the timeout to 10ms and had it auto boot to windows, so i had to frantically press the up or down errors so it wouldn't time out of the menu, before i could even see it!
[10:07] <nickrud> Berg, you're the admin, you're supposed to set up the backups ;(
[10:07] <kameron> BerG: hahaha. there's a greater importance in not formatting other peoples shit!
[10:07] <Bjelleklang> when installing apache, do i need to create user and group www-data?
[10:07] <kameron> haha, true, what nickrud said Berg
[10:07] <Berg> well the computer needed to be formatted
[10:08] <poningru> metho: yeah inside that file
[10:08] <Bjelleklang> or could this be set to an existing user
[10:08] <SealyDave> gcc =?
[10:08] <nickrud> all windows needs a proper format
[10:08] <kameron> sealydave: the Gnu C Compiler
[10:08] <metho> poningru: ok
[10:08] <poningru> look for a file nameed rt2500.ko
[10:08] <gnomefreak> gcc is a compiler for C lang
[10:08] <SealyDave> sweet
[10:08] <mwe> not only for c
[10:08] <Berg> there was some kind of error with some of my hardware files so most of my .exe files (mostly apple .exe files) would not run
[10:08] <gnomefreak> gcc is only for C
[10:08] <mwe> for a broad range of languages
[10:08] <Berg> well anyway time to dual boot
[10:08] <gnomefreak> g++ is only for C++
[10:09] <gnomefreak> gjc=java
[10:09] <borisattva> navarone: just to clarify, i want to DISABLE that ipv6 string?
[10:09] <kameron> goodluck Berg, we'll be here
[10:09] <metho> poningru: ok
[10:09] <nickrud> gcc has fortran even
[10:09] <gnomefreak> isnt that g77?
[10:09] <HELP> HI I TOTALY NEED HELP.....MY Ubuntu Wont DO>>>ANYHTING...IF i Type anything into the comand line it just says PASSWORD:.....?
[10:09] <Berg> BTW...I found a geforce 6200 graphics card with Farcry and controller for $97...good or bad?
[10:09] <navarone> borisattva, I believe the setting is worded disable ipv6 and so the setting should be set to true...right click to toggle
[10:09] <gnomefreak> HELP, put your user password there
[10:09] <mwe> HELP: fix your caps lock key too
[10:09] <poningru> HELP: then put in your password
[10:09] <nickrud> it's gnu compilers, true. gcc was wrong.
[10:10] <borisattva> help: use the password you use to get into ubuntu. its your 'pseudo-root password too
[10:10] <HELP> It Doesnt work
[10:10] <gnomefreak> HELP, did you install ubuntu?
[10:10] <borisattva> navarone: yep got it, just making sure
[10:10] <TCTCH> hi, what for a "Software Syntisizer" do I need to play MIDI in ubuntu?
[10:10] <borisattva> thanks
[10:10] <poningru> HELP: just type it in and press enter
[10:10] <kameron> HOLY CRAP! the gcc man page has like.. 1045 pages!!!
[10:10] <nalioth> HELP: put your username in first thing
[10:10] <mwe> kameron: yeah :)
[10:10] <kameron> mwe: i'm never reading man pages again
[10:10] <Peter> when i run 'glxgears' when i quit it, it says "X Connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)" is that correct?
[10:10] <navarone> np boris
[10:11] <gnomefreak> kameron, yes it is :)
[10:11] <navarone> hope it helps
[10:11] <poningru> HELP: even if nothing shows up it doesnt mean your password isnt being entered
[10:11] <mwe> kameron: so now you know what to be doing the rest of the day
[10:11] <kameron> i consider 20 pages a long man page. never mind over a thousand, that's retarded.
[10:11] <gnomefreak> nothing will show up for protection
[10:11] <nickrud> kameron, use info on that one :)
[10:11] <gnomefreak> kameron, its easier to google gcc
[10:12] <kameron> probably gnomefreak
[10:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kameron about gcc
[10:12] <Berg> so is a Gforce 6200 Graphics card for $97 good?
[10:12] <Voodoo_Vibe> how do i install grub?? im on live cd, but i have kubuntu installed. im new to Linux.... my  brother ran fixmbr from win xp cd...
[10:12] <gnomefreak> lmao it tells him to type man gcc lol
[10:12] <nickrud> Berg, not bad for Texas, bad for california
[10:12] <mwe> kameron: you would typically be searching for something particular when reading the gcc page :)
[10:12] <cartesian1984> does anyone know of a good guide to recompiling the Linux kernel?
[10:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Voodoo_Vibe about recover
[10:12] <Berg> is it a good price?
[10:12] <kameron> mwe: i was just browsing.. stupid idea that was
[10:13] <nickrud> reasonable. Not particularly good.
[10:13] <Berg> well where can I get a good price for a good card? somewhere in hte $100 range?
[10:13] <C-O-L-T> hello
[10:13] <Voodoo_Vibe> nalioth: Thanx!
[10:13] <C-O-L-T> how can install firefox 1.5
[10:14] <mwe> !ff15
[10:14] <ubotu> mwe: What?
[10:14] <mwe> !firefox1.5
[10:14] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell C-O-L-T about ff1.5
[10:14] <nickrud> Berg, you should be able to get a 6800 for that, with careful shopping
[10:14] <kameron> Berg: it depends on how much performance you want. i'm not big into gaming or video editing, etc.. but i do play a few games, and i like cripst graphics.. i run a 6600gt, reasonable performance for the price.
[10:14] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:14] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, yw
[10:14] <Berg> so mine is good enough to last me a couple of years
[10:14] <kameron> Berg: any card you're interested in, google "benchmarks ___graphics-card-name-here___" to see how it performs compared to other cards.
[10:15] <Bjelleklang> is there a command to list all usergroups from bash?
[10:15] <kameron> Berg: what card do you have/
[10:15] <nickrud> Bjelleklang, groups
[10:15] <Bjelleklang> ah
[10:15] <jadewolf> is there a way to tell ubuntu to upgrade all packages? I just installed it from the CDs I ordered online
[10:15] <metho> echo "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2500
[10:15] <Berg> well it comes with Farcry and a controller so thats also good
[10:15] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:15] <ned> is there somewhere i can find hardware optimizing for ubuntu?
[10:15] <metho> poningru: do i need this command
[10:15] <nickrud> Bjelleklang, ah, groups <user> , and cat /etc/group will tell you all
[10:15] <kameron> jadewolf: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:15] <Berg> what about 512MB of ram for about $55
[10:15] <Hoxzer> what is the fastest way to create .iso image?
[10:15] <navarone> Berg> controller like gamepad you mean?
[10:15] <Hoxzer> empty one
[10:15] <Hoxzer> and put files into it
[10:15] <Berg> yeah like USB controller
[10:16] <_Antar_> can someone paste the contents of their .gtkrc-2.0 file for me?
[10:16] <jadewolf> whats the sudo password its asking me for?
[10:16] <_Antar_> mine is gone..
[10:16] <Bjelleklang> nickthanks'
[10:16] <Berg> looks like hybrid of Xbox and PS2
[10:16] <_Antar_> and my root apps look ugly
[10:16] <jadewolf> lol nvm
[10:16] <kameron> jadewolf: your password that you used to login
[10:16] <cyberix> I can't burn cds :-(
[10:16] <navarone> berg that sounds reasonable...but maybe google card to see how good it is in reviews
[10:16] <poningru> bbl
[10:16] <sklav> hi guys
[10:16] <jadewolf> kameron: yeah I was thinking it was asking for root password but then I tried ine and it worked
[10:16] <_Antar_> can someone paste the contents of their .gtkrc-2.0 file for me?
[10:17] <Berg> well ANYWAY...moving on. I put the ubuntu install CD and it did not autoplay but now I have a screen full of folders
[10:17] <cyberix> Gnome detects an empty cd and asks me what I want to do, but when I start burning it tells me to insert an empty disk. Why?
[10:17] <kameron> jadewolf: ubuntu disables the root account by default for security reasons, and it's suggested that you use sudo
[10:17] <kameron> !tell jadewold about sudo
[10:17] <mwe> _Antar_: well why?
[10:17] <_Antar_> cause i need to recreate one
[10:17] <veriz> do anyone know any good howtos for JBOSS installation?
[10:17] <navarone> Berg> I recently paid $35 for 256 so 55 for 512 is reasonable
[10:17] <mwe> _Antar_: just use switch2
[10:17] <IrIT> i there
[10:17] <borisattva> hmmm interesting.. while in firefox i was copy pasting a link http://http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96595 and that lead me straight to www.microsoft.com
[10:17] <_Antar_> i need it to make my root apps look nice
[10:17] <Berg> should I dual boot install from my desktop or when I turn on?
[10:17] <borisattva> is that firefox's doing?
[10:17] <mwe> _Antar_: from gtk-theme-switch
[10:17] <_Antar_> switch2?
[10:17] <metho> poningru: i followed the guide and should i restart again now?
[10:17] <mwe> _Antar_: yes
[10:17] <jadewolf> kameron: my ubuntu cds are from last spring, is there something I should do to alter so I ahve the most recent version? also gdm isn't starting up, any idea why?
[10:18] <nickrud> ubuntu disables <logging> into the root account, only.
[10:18] <mwe> _Antar_: install gtk-theme-switch
[10:18] <kameron> jadewolf: what version are you running?
[10:18] <jadewolf> warty
[10:18] <mwe> _Antar_: then run switch from a terminal window
[10:18] <C-O-L-T> Does exist a kind of google earth for linux, or a world atlas, or some map system
[10:18] <navarone> Berg are you asking how to install for dual boot?
[10:18] <Berg> yes
[10:18] <kameron> !tell jadewolf about breezy
[10:18] <_Antar_> installing
[10:18] <Berg> yes
[10:18] <IrIT> anyone here has compiled psybnc on ubuntu?
[10:18] <mwe> Berg: pop in the ubuntu cd after installing windows
[10:18] <Berg> I have
[10:19] <jadewolf> kameron: should I wait till I get x working?
[10:19] <mwe> Berg: go ahead
[10:19] <Berg> done
[10:19] <navarone> Bergh> you boot with install cd in cd drive and make sure bios is set to boot from cd rom and when it boots follow instructions
[10:19] <nickrud> jadewolf, you really need to get the breezy iso: upgrading to breezy from warty is not a good idea.
[10:19] <C-O-L-T> Does exist a kind of google earth for linux, or a world atlas, or some map system
[10:19] <_Antar_> ok...actually
[10:19] <mwe> Berg: you'll have the option of resizing the windows partition to make room for ubuntu
[10:19] <Berg> thanks
[10:19] <kameron> jadewolf: it's up to you i guess. are you on a fresh install?
[10:19] <_Antar_> how do i make my root aps look nice?
[10:19] <jadewolf> kameron: yes
[10:19] <_Antar_> they used to but kde screwed them up
[10:19] <Voodoo_Vibe> can i just download some other boot loader from windows and then start Kubuntu from that one??
[10:19] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i dont think so other than stars type maps
[10:19] <_Antar_> kde is gone now
[10:20] <nalioth> _Antar_: you shouldnt be using 'root' apps for long enough to be offended, imho
[10:20] <jadewolf> nickrud: hard to d/l and burn a new iso when I don't have a working OS
[10:20] <_Antar_> firestarter
[10:20] <kameron> jadewolf: warty is very old, it's probably best to install breezy. upgrading to breezy from warty is a long process.
[10:20] <Berg> boot from CD. make room for ubuntu. got it
[10:20] <nickrud> jadewolf, ah.
[10:20] <_Antar_> i see it all the time
[10:20] <Berg> thanks
[10:20] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: but i can access country maps with it
[10:20] <_Antar_> i am offended
[10:20] <nickrud> you need to get warty up so you can get the iso. Ok.
[10:20] <_Antar_> now how can i fix it?
[10:20] <navarone> C-O-L-T, try searching for earth3d in synaptic...it is a rougher prog than goog;e earth but functions
[10:20] <_Antar_> there has to be a way to fix it because it was good before
[10:20] <gnomefreak> is there an earth 2d?
[10:21] <jadewolf> nickrud: so I guess I need to figure out why x wont start
[10:21] <C-O-L-T> navarone: can i access country maps and maps from it
[10:21] <C-O-L-T> ?
[10:21] <bambata> i have a problem with my proftpd server
[10:21] <gnomefreak> my pc wont let me use 3d :(
[10:21] <bambata> can anyone help
[10:21] <bambata> me
[10:21] <_Antar_> i am sick of looking at firestarter with its crappy old gtk theme
[10:21] <kameron> jadewolf: note on the link that ubotu sent you, it says "Note: Upgrades from Ubuntu 4.10 (Warty Warthog) to Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) are not supported and not recommended. See HoaryUpgradeNotes to upgrade to Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog)"
[10:21] <bambata> users can log in
[10:21] <kameron> jadewolf: it'd probably be best to burn a new disc with breezy on it
[10:21] <nickrud> jadewolf, what vid card?
[10:21] <bambata> but not list the repertories
[10:21] <HELP> Im Still having troulble,, Ubuntu wont let me use certain programs...including the one to change the ROOT password....Because it asks me for the root password and i dont know it and its not my user password
[10:21] <SealyDave> i cant for the love of god get my plugins running on firefox
[10:22] <navarone> C-O-L-T, I just took screenshot of program on my desktop...will paste in bin for you to see...brb
[10:22] <jadewolf> nickrud: nvidia AGP 6600 GT 128M
[10:22] <kameron> jadewolf: i have the same card
[10:22] <bambata> i need help please
[10:22] <luk3> =)
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> navarone: ok give me the link
[10:22] <Voodoo_Vibe> nalioth: this looks hard! cant i just install grub on mbr, like its done on the installation??
[10:22] <bambata> if somebody knows proftpd well
[10:22] <jadewolf> kameron: I just want to get X up so I can d/l the iso and burn it
[10:22] <mwe> man I wish it would be feasible to buy a new keyboard for a laptop
[10:22] <kameron> jadewolf: oh, i see
[10:22] <nalioth> Voodoo_Vibe: you may do as you wish and are comfortable doing
[10:23] <nickrud> jadewolf, well, I've not done ati in a long while. How about posting /etc/X11/xorg.cong and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from a failed login to pastebin?
[10:23] <navarone> !pastebin
[10:23] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:23] <kameron> jadewolf: you can download it by command line? and burn it.
[10:23] <jadewolf> I have no webbrowser
[10:23] <jadewolf> lynx and links are command not found
[10:23] <mike-e> I just intalled gcc and i'm trying to configure a package, it says no c compiler availabl
[10:23] <kameron> jadewolf: wget http://ubuntu.blah.blah.blah.iso
[10:23] <Voodoo_Vibe> nalioth: yeah, since im new i want it as easy as possible. can i install grub on MBR and how with keeping my installed Kubuntu
[10:24] <jadewolf> kemeron: need the iso name to do that :)
[10:24] <HELP> My Ubuntu WILL NOT WORK...Somebody please help me
[10:24] <gnomefreak> mike-e, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:24] <nalioth> Voodoo_Vibe: i'd follow the wiki to make sure you have a kubuntu to go back to
[10:24] <Flying_Deagleman> hi all, I have a question....I have an SB Live! 24-bit sound card, and ubuntu reads it as a audigy LS.  This isn't true, of course, and I'd like to know how to get ubuntu to read it as an SB Live! 24bit.  On another note, I installed teamspeak, and it auto mutes my headphones, and my mic, how do I fix that?
[10:24] <C-O-L-T> navarone: ????????/
[10:24] <navarone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i6767
[10:24] <Voodoo_Vibe> nalioth: yeah but i dont understand mostly of it
[10:24] <metho> hello every1, i installed rt2500 for my card and still wireless card isnt working
[10:25] <nalioth> Voodoo_Vibe: take it a step at a time
[10:25] <Stork> !java
[10:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:25] <kameron> jadewolf: i'll get it for you in half a minute, a little busy
[10:25] <Voodoo_Vibe> nalioth: ok i will try it.... can i ask you if i get into any troubles??
[10:25] <gnomefreak> HELP, are you the one that installed ubuntu on that pc?
[10:25] <nalioth> Voodoo_Vibe: there are several folks in here that are knowledgable
[10:25] <HELP> yeh
[10:26] <gnomefreak> the password you used while installing ubuntu is the password you use
[10:26] <HELP> it doesnt work
[10:26] <HELP> Tried it a thousand times
[10:26] <gnomefreak> i think you need it even to add a sudoer to the sudoer list
[10:26] <Voodoo_Vibe> where is my fstab located??
[10:27] <jadewolf> kameron: I got it downloaidng, I apt-get installed links
[10:27] <metho> any professionals on wireless networking in here?????
[10:27] <Kindred> Voodoo_Vibe, /etc/fstab
[10:27] <gnomefreak> !wifi
[10:27] <ubotu> wifi is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:27] <jadewolf> kameron: 40 mins on download :-/
[10:27] <Voodoo_Vibe> Kindred: ok, Thanx
[10:27] <kameron> jadewolf: oh, okay. i just had it for you too.
[10:27] <kameron> jadewolf: that's not bad at all!
[10:27] <HELP> But oit askes me for that password Everytime i try and run ANYTHING.... it Wont even Run THe Atomatic Update Manager...
[10:27] <sklav> HELP, you cannot log in as user root
[10:28] <sklav> you must use sudo
[10:28] <jean> 0
[10:28] <jean> francais
[10:28] <C-O-L-T> navarone: I have seen it, but I can not see details from countries from example I can not look at New York
[10:28] <Berg> hi
[10:28] <mwe> HELP: then edit the grub entry and add init=/bin/bash then boot and reset the password and make sure the user is in the admin group
[10:28] <jean> salu je mappele mathieu
[10:28] <gnomefreak> !fr
[10:28] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:28] <jean> salu
[10:29] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:29] <Berg> I came back from trying to install ubuntu with windows but when it asked if I wanted to create a partition I was scared it would delete the rest of the data on here
[10:29] <jean> je mappele mathieu
[10:29] <HELP> DUDE...i dont know ANYTHING abotu what im doin here...] 
[10:29] <Berg> hi Mathew
[10:29] <gnomefreak> berg you need to resize win partion than add some space for ubuntu
[10:29] <IdleOne> jean>  pour discussion en francais tu peut aller au #ubuntu-fr
[10:29] <nalioth> jean: either #ubuntu-fr or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:29] <Berg> how do I do that?
[10:30] <jean> salu  les mac,
[10:30] <jean> ?
[10:30] <jean> ?????allo
[10:30] <mwe> jean: speak english or join #ubuntu-fr please
[10:30] <Berg> I dont have two computers so I must do either this or that
[10:30] <gnomefreak> jean, /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:30] <nalioth> jean: anglais ici, franais en #ubuntu-fr
[10:30] <dell500> anyone here know how to get port 6881 working for Azureus? I've edited the access control for my router and added the port to be open, but it's not working....
[10:30] <the-antique> will ubuntu format my hd?
[10:31] <Berg> ^^
[10:31] <gnomefreak> the-antique, yes
[10:31] <IdleOne> the-antique>  yes if thats what you want
[10:31] <Mabus06> how do you get archive manager to read rar files
[10:31] <navarone> C-O-L-T, I don't think it gives anythign like that detail
[10:31] <mwe> HELP: is ubuntu on the computer you're using now?
[10:31] <Berg> what if I dont want it to be formatted? and still install it
[10:31] <gnomefreak> berg your gonna have to use manual partioner
[10:31] <the-antique> and if I don't want it to, will it leave the files there alone?
[10:32] <HELP> Yeah Im using it know...Is it Possible for anone to Access My PC Remotely and Fix the problems With My Ubuntu..?
[10:32] <Berg> can someone guide me through it step by step *gets paper and pencil
[10:32] <C-O-L-T> how can i set my whole gnome to have windows like characters
[10:32] <mwe> dell500: I think you need to forward the port
[10:32] <alekandr> Evening guys :] 
[10:32] <C-O-L-T> navarone: can't i simply run google earth somehow
[10:32] <mwe> HELP: well you say you can't log in?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell berg about install
[10:33] <navarone> C-O-L-T, you can try themes and chose one that tries to recreate windows environment
[10:33] <alekandr> I cant seem to get xmms to output anything, I've installed all the codecs and plugins that it needs, audacity works, as does totem when play music. XMMS< just gives me an error saying sound card not configured :(
[10:33] <Berg> well ubotu is annoying
[10:33] <Berg> the bot sucks IMO
[10:33] <navarone> C-O-L-T, I dunno if there is an online or linux version
[10:33] <jean__> salut le mac??????????
[10:33] <the-antique>  and if I don't want it to format, will it leave the files already on my hd alone?
[10:33] <Berg> ...^^^
[10:33] <C-O-L-T> navarone: how where can i find that? I am using Linux just for 3 months
[10:33] <jean__> vous ete des mate!
[10:33] <mwe> jean__: hello speak english or leave
[10:33] <IdleOne> !tell the-antique  about install
[10:34] <kameron> jen__ /join #ubuntu-fr
[10:34] <the-antique> jean__: parle anglais, ou allez au #ubuntu-fr
[10:34] <navarone> C-O-L-T, online at google.com...but I dunno if there is an online one...try the web site for linux version...but I doubt it exists at this point
[10:34] <jean__> caca pipi popo
[10:34] <Kovecses> !w32codecs
[10:34] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:34] <C-O-L-T> navarone: ok
[10:34] <the-antique> thanks idleone
[10:35] <IdleOne> np
[10:35] <mwe> HELP: can you log in to ubuntu or what?
[10:35] <HELP> No i can log in to my user account....and certaqin things just work.. e.g. X-Chat and firefox.... But Most things dont work, Because Im Bieng asked For A ROOT password and its not the same as my user password
[10:36] <HELP> i cant even type that fast..SORRY
[10:36] <gnomefreak> HELP, you got passed the log-in screen?
[10:36] <HELP> yeh
[10:36] <mwe> HELP: well then I guess you cannot set up ssh access for me to log in and have a look at it
[10:36] <the-antique> well, time for football. GO SKINZ!
[10:36] <gnomefreak> the password is the same by default if you installed ubuntu
[10:36] <nickrud> o.O
[10:36] <HELP> I can Try..
[10:36] <Kovecses> HELP, did you ever set a root passwd
[10:36] <gnomefreak> if you didnt install it ask the person that did
[10:36] <HELP> nope...
[10:36] <HELP> It never worked from the start
[10:37] <IdleOne> help the password is the same as your user password
[10:37] <Kr0ntab> heya folks
[10:37] <gnomefreak> HELP, does it work for gui apps?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> like synaptic?
[10:37] <Kovecses> bbl
[10:37] <mwe> HELP: it should never ask you for a root password
[10:38] <gnomefreak> it should just say password
[10:38] <HELP> i installed it and i set the user password..... But it doesnt work for this ROOT password i dunno why..hang oinm ill find out what it says again...
[10:38] <gnomefreak> HELP, does it work for synaptic?
[10:38] <mwe> HELP: you're not using ubuntu
[10:38] <yggdrasil> Elo gents
[10:38] <mwe> HELP: ubuntu does not ask for the root password
[10:38] <gnomefreak> mwe he might be trrying to use su
[10:39] <gnomefreak> trying
[10:39] <yggdrasil> hey mwe i just wanted to thank you for the help yesterday
[10:39] <mwe> yggdrasil: you're welcome
[10:39] <C-O-L-T> navarone: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_GoogleEarth_with_wine
[10:39] <C-O-L-T> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_GoogleEarth_with_wine
[10:39] <sorush20> any one here know of a webcam that works with linux?
[10:40] <yggdrasil> ive got a buncha computer with ubuntu on it
[10:40] <mwe> sorush20: I think most do
[10:40] <yggdrasil> well like 3
[10:40] <zcat[1] > sorush20: bt878 capture cards work excellently
[10:40] <yggdrasil> the fourth is fighting it
[10:40] <HELP> when i first tried to fix this problem using FAQs from other sites i ended up with what i started,,, this mit not make any sense to anyone but this is what i typed...its all copied and pasted (i dont know anything about linux).. user@ubuntu:~$ oxao
[10:40] <HELP> bash: oxao: command not found
[10:40] <HELP> user@ubuntu:~$ sudo adduser accountname
[10:40] <HELP> Password:
[10:40] <HELP> Sorry, try again.
[10:40] <HELP> Password:
[10:40] <HELP> Sorry, try again.
[10:40] <yggdrasil> ive got an old mac clone running it
[10:40] <nase> !java
[10:40] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:40] <sorush20> really like logitech creative ?
[10:41] <sorush20> anyone here think ubuntu should do an intro for using the computer?
[10:41] <nickrud> no
[10:41] <kameron> jadewolf: if you need help burning the iso, just let me know when you're done downloading
[10:41] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[10:41] <Pygi> !Iso
[10:41] <ubotu> somebody said iso was download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:41] <nickrud> sorush20, unless you want to write it
[10:42] <Berg> OK...I am defragmenting and then backing up some info (device drives) after that I will try to install windows
[10:43] <gnomefreak> Pygi, im here and i sent you the start but it came back saying your mail was bad
[10:43] <mwe> Berg: I thought windows was installed
[10:43] <Berg> oops
[10:43] <mwe> Berg: and you were trying to install ubuntu as well
[10:43] <Berg> *I will install ubuntu
[10:43] <Berg> correction
[10:43] <yggdrasil> mwe i got a question
[10:43] <Berg> oops
[10:43] <nase> !source creator
[10:43] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nase
[10:43] <mwe> Berg: go ahead it's straight forward
[10:43] <nase> whats the link to source list creator thing
[10:43] <Berg> I know
[10:43] <mwe> yggdrasil: yes?
[10:44] <nickrud> !easysources
[10:44] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, nickrud
[10:44] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[10:44] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:44] <Pygi> gnomefreak: to what mail?
[10:44] <kameron> !easysource
[10:44] <yggdrasil> ive gota laptop and im trying to get ubuntu breazy on it but it gets halfway thru and says osme packags could not be installed
[10:44] <yggdrasil> what you make of that
[10:44] <Berg> there is always this thing in the back of my mind that tells me something bad WILL happen
[10:44] <Pygi> do not abuse ubotu please, thanks
[10:44] <gnomefreak> the one you gave me said it was a bad or missing domain name
[10:44] <nickrud> hmp, anyone know how to do an indirect for ubotu :)
[10:44] <mwe> yggdrasil: bad cd I recon
[10:44] <Kindred> Berg, really you want to backup everything important so it doesn't matter even if it does..
[10:44] <yggdrasil> or crappy cd drive
[10:44] <Berg> K
[10:44] <HELP> Should i just Re-install UBUNTU....
[10:44] <nalioth> nickrud: and indirect?
[10:45] <IdleOne> HELP>  yes
[10:45] <Berg> I dont really have ANYTHING important since I just formatted
[10:45] <nickrud> a link, for cognates
[10:45] <Berg> and installed the drivers
[10:45] <yggdrasil> strange cuz i used the cd for other installs with nop
[10:45] <yggdrasil> problem
[10:45] <Berg> and got my modem working
[10:45] <nalioth> nickrud: you've lost me
[10:45] <Kindred> Berg, well not much to worry about then, it'll likely go fine anyway
[10:45] <mwe> HELP: why would you reinstall?
[10:45] <Berg> well OK...
[10:45] <nickrud> so us folks that don't always remember the right ubotu thingo can be not so stupid :)
[10:45] <nalioth> HELP: please dont paste in here, use a pastebin (read the /topic)
[10:46] <HELP> I just dunno, Because i did it last itme and it was realy hard cos i had to set it so that it didnt wipe my existing Data.. and my pc still runs XP
[10:46] <HELP> SORRY
[10:46] <gnomefreak> berg right after install it has things to move?
[10:46] <Berg> what?
[10:46] <nickrud> nalioth, indirect == pointer to the right thing
[10:46] <nalioth> nickrud: that would be nice, eh?
[10:46] <yggdrasil> does updatedb go thru and add smb mounts ?
[10:46] <gnomefreak> berg you just install windows like 30 mins ago?
[10:46] <Berg> no
[10:46] <Berg> yesterday
[10:46] <nickrud> lol, I'll ask cafuego when I get a chance
[10:46] <mwe> HELP: is the user you're logged on as the one you created during install?
[10:46] <Berg> I intalled my modem today
[10:47] <HELP> yehn
[10:47] <IdleOne> HELP>  what is it yu are trying to do that it asks for password?
[10:47] <yggdrasil> mount
[10:47] <HELP> yeh..
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ohh ok
[10:47] <HELP> The automatic update mannager..
[10:47] <HELP> it just wont work
[10:47] <Berg> done defragmenting
[10:47] <Berg> see you in ubuntu
[10:47] <gnomefreak> HELP, try sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:47] <Berg> ;)
[10:47] <IdleOne> ok type sudo apt-get update
[10:47] <mwe> HELP: type "groups" in a terminal. does it mention admin?
[10:48] <HELP> hang on ill try it
[10:48] <HELP> its ses user admin ect.
[10:48] <yggdrasil> good luck bergus
[10:48] <mwe> HELP: ok. good
[10:49] <gnomefreak> HELP, open terminal and type sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:49] <mwe> HELP: but "sudo ls" followed by your user password and enter says what?
[10:50] <HELP> i typed .. sudo apt-get upgrade and it sed.. Password:
[10:50] <gnomefreak> type user password
[10:50] <IdleOne> now type in your password
[10:50] <SealyDave> can someone help please with installing java/flash plugins for firefox1.5
[10:50] <Pygi> !java
[10:50] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:50] <Pygi> !javadebs
[10:50] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[10:50] <Pygi> !flash
[10:50] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:51] <HELP> it just ses _ user@ubuntu:~$
[10:51] <Pygi> SealyDave: there you go :)
[10:51] <SealyDave> man i installed easykubuntu already
[10:51] <mwe> HELP: you supposed to answer with your users password followed by return to the password prompt
[10:51] <yggdrasil> is there anyway to burn mac dmg image files to a cd in ubuntu ?
[10:51] <Pygi> well, just burn it as data cd
[10:51] <erUSUL> SealyDave,  ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so  /inst_dir/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[10:52] <fissy> hello, is it possible to mount an iso of a dvd and it be playable in totem?
[10:52] <nalioth> yggdrasil: you'll need to google a perl file called "dmg2iso" for taht
[10:52] <yggdrasil> nalioth
[10:52] <HELP> i do and it just ses ........ user@ubuntu:~$
[10:52] <yggdrasil> thanks
[10:52] <HELP> like it did before
[10:52] <nalioth> Pygi: it's not so easy as that. see above
[10:52] <SealyDave> erUSUL: so i goto plugins directory and type that?
[10:53] <HELP> but it didnt do that before it just sed it was wrong 3 time and then it sed
[10:53] <HELP> user@ubuntu:~$
[10:53] <mwe> HELP: it didn't complain about the password being wrong?
[10:53] <HELP> no not this time
[10:53] <Pygi> nalioth: ah, well :/ can't you just save it as a data cd?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> hes up to date?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> try sudo apt-get update
[10:53] <HELP> but it also didnt do...Anythin
[10:53] <gnomefreak> see if they run :)
[10:53] <nalioth> Pygi: a dmg is and is not a image. it needs to be polished into a standard iso
[10:53] <mwe> gnomefreak: maybe he's sources.list only has the cd path
[10:54] <sverre> someone here who has tried salome-platform?...need som help installing.
[10:54] <erUSUL> SealyDave, it should work from any dir but you have to change inst_dir for the dir you instaled ff1.5 and you need to install (previusly) de jre deb that ubotu told you
[10:54] <gnomefreak> mwe it will still give him that as output tho
[10:54] <Pygi> nalioth: well, I do understand that.... but can't I save a dmg without "unpacking" on a media ?
[10:54] <mwe> gnomefreak: what?
[10:54] <BalsamicVinigga> hello all
[10:54] <nickrud> ff1.5
[10:54] <djfdsfds> anyone know what im missing and getting this, checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:54] <HELP> if i try and run the atomatic updat thing now it ses....Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic
[10:54] <nickrud> !ff1.5
[10:54] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:54] <nickrud> doh
[10:54] <gnomefreak> than atleast we will know that sudo is fine and the updated notifier hasnt gotten to him yet :)
[10:54] <nalioth> Pygi: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[10:54] <Pygi> nalioth: k
[10:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah
[10:55] <gnomefreak> HELP, type sudo apt-get update
[10:55] <gnomefreak> than you password at prompt
[10:55] <Pygi> nalioth: there I am
[10:56] <adamh> I used to be able to print to my Canon S520. For the past month or two (on Dapper), when I print I see my printer's light blinking as if I were printing something... but then it stops, CUPS says the job is finished, and nothing comes out of the printer. Any ideas?
[10:56] <HELP> it didnt do nothin
[10:56] <SealyDave> erUSUL so i went to sun site and i only see rpm packages
[10:56] <guest666> whats the package called for tcl?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> did it complain about wrong password?
[10:56] <C-O-L-T> help me please
[10:56] <C-O-L-T> how to install ww2d
[10:56] <C-O-L-T> I am new in Linux
[10:56] <C-O-L-T> help me please it is urgent
[10:57] <cleo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6768 can someone look at this and tell me how to set the LogLevel to debug? (cups)
[10:57] <Pygi> guest666: tcl? :)
[10:57] <adamh> cleo: sudo nano /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[10:57] <guest666> heh no
[10:57] <mwe> gnomefreak: isn't that what it would do, nothing, if sources.list is empty
[10:57] <gnomefreak> HELP, did it say wrong password?
[10:57] <nickrud> SealyDave, jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin is what you want
[10:57] <guest666> Package tcl is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:57] <guest666> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:57] <guest666> is only available from another source
[10:57] <gnomefreak> mwe yes thats why im asking
[10:57] <Pygi> guest: use synaptic
[10:57] <adamh> cleo: You should see the line. Then you have to run "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart" to make your change take effect.
[10:57] <guest666> what is that
[10:57] <HELP> no
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell guest666 about javadebs
[10:58] <HELP>  it just came up wiht the user promt
[10:58] <Pygi> guest: go system --> administration --> Synaptic
[10:58] <IdleOne> guest666>  why do you need tcl?
[10:58] <nickrud> guest666, you need to expand your sources.list, see what the next link says
[10:58] <HELP> prompt sorry
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ok good HELP :)
[10:58] <nickrud> !easysource
[10:58] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:58] <C-O-L-T> help me
[10:58] <erUSUL> !tell SealyDave about javadebs
[10:58] <gnomefreak> !help
[10:58] <guest666> gnomefreak why do i need to  know about java?
[10:58] <Loevborg> Anyone using an ibook?
[10:58] <cleo> adamh: yes I see, I overlooke the linke, thanks
[10:58] <HELP> yeh
[10:58] <cleo> *line
[10:58] <gnomefreak> thats not what i wanted :(
[10:58] <C-O-L-T> how to install ww2d
[10:58] <Pygi> ubotu tell guest666 about synaptic
[10:59] <gnomefreak> guest666, did you just ask what was java.deb?
[10:59] <guest666> hmm no
[10:59] <guest666> i am asking about tcl, and the above gcc error i had above
[10:59] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, sudo apt-get install <package>
[10:59] <nase> are all the repos on source-o-matic safe? dont want to break stuff..
[10:59] <borisattva> quick q, i'm installing kubuntu desktop as addition to Gnome which i love, to take advantage of some of the KApps, and its aksing me which display manager to use KDM or GDM, anyone with experience with both to recommend one over other?
[10:59] <C-O-L-T> somebody?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> sorry guest666  i saw you say what is that after someone said something about java
[10:59] <Pygi> guest: well, Synaptic helps you installs tcl :P
[10:59] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: it is a program like google earth
[10:59] <gnomefreak> nase, yes for most part
[11:00] <nase> ok
[11:00] <guest666> Pygi everything is command line
[11:00] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: do you know?
[11:00] <guest666> for me
[11:00] <adamh> borisattva: You can't go wrong. Since you're using KDE, maybe KDM is best.
[11:00] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: it will work with this?
[11:00] <aquarius> borisattva, it doesn't really matter which you choose.
[11:00] <adamh> borisattva: Either will work fine
[11:00] <gnomefreak> no C-O-L-T  i dont and i thought he said it was called something else
[11:00] <Pygi> guest: are you using dapper
[11:00] <guest666> 5.1
[11:00] <borisattva> thanks guys
[11:00] <guest666> some badger crap
[11:00] <aquarius> borisattva, you can just install the KDE applications and run them on your normal Gnome desktop if you like, as well.
[11:00] <Pygi> breezy badger...?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Pygi, yes
[11:01] <fissy> charming
[11:01] <gnomefreak> thats what 5.1 is
[11:01] <Pygi> well, he's calling it crap :/
[11:01] <gnomefreak> he doesnt know any better i guess
[11:01] <fissy> badgers are awesome
[11:01] <Pygi> that's no good you know, and you won't get far with that :P
[11:01] <guest666> whatever the latest is, i dont know the code names
[11:01] <guest666> i said 5.1
[11:01] <gnomefreak> but if he thinks its crap he installed it he can figure out how to uninstall it :)
[11:01] <Pygi> well, it surely isn't crap :P
[11:01] <mwe> bur[n] er: but there is no 5.1
[11:02] <antisepticx> click the uninstall button lol
[11:02] <mwe> guest666: there is no 5.1. it's 5.04 or 5.10
[11:02] <gnomefreak> mwe no there isnt but win users dont know that they think they can leave the 0 off
[11:02] <antisepticx> oh man
[11:02] <guest666> 5.10 = 5,1
[11:02] <IdleOne> guest666>  install tcl via synaptic package manager
[11:02] <guest666> no GUI!
[11:02] <Pygi> Idke: he doesnt have gui :P
[11:02] <guest666> i just need the package name
[11:02] <Pygi> k, wait a sec pls
[11:02] <IdleOne> guest666>  5.10 = 5.1 only in mathematical terms
[11:03] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search tcl
[11:03] <gnomefreak> it will output the names that have that in it
[11:03] <mwe> guest666: 5.10 is the october (10th month) release of 2005
[11:03] <antisepticx> looking for what package?
[11:03] <guest666> thanks gn0me
[11:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:04] <guest666> anyone know what im missing and getting this(trying to compile eggdrop), checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:04] <antisepticx> opps just needed to read huh
[11:04] <Pygi> guest: well, gcc :P
[11:04] <guest666> gcc is there.....
[11:04] <cleo> adamh: maybe you know what this means? It happens when I print from any windows client through IPP on cups printserver, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6769 (debug loglevel) ... this continous till I get "Unable to open /dev/null too many files open"
[11:04] <antisepticx> all of it
[11:04] <mwe> gnomefreak: or descriptions. you need apt-cache -n search to only search the names :)
[11:04] <sorush20> nickrud: yes i mean an animation like linspire
[11:04] <nickrud> guest666, sudo apt-get install build-essential , I would think
[11:04] <Pygi> tcl8.0 is the name guest :)
[11:04] <antisepticx> correct
[11:05] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: please help me http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction look at this
[11:05] <Pygi> guest: and make sure you dont use gcc 4.0
[11:05] <antisepticx> yippee
[11:05] <Pygi> guest: it is troublesome
[11:05] <antisepticx> 3.4
[11:05] <adamh> cleo: You'll have to put more -- there's no error at the bottom of that snippet.
[11:05] <guest666> tcllib seemed to work too
[11:05] <nickrud> sorush20, ? I got lost in the chatter
[11:05] <cleo> adamh: but thats it, the same message repeats
[11:06] <guest666> thanks nickrud
[11:06] <adamh> cleo: It means that /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb is exiting for some reason. That's all I can figure out, sorry :(
[11:07] <adamh> cleo: I'm having CUPS problems, too :P
[11:07] <guest666> commands like  apt-get install build-essential just dont pop into someone's head ! :) and thats all i needed
[11:07] <gnomefreak> ok back to ubuntu brb
[11:07] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak:??????????????
[11:07] <nickrud> guest666, lol, no they don't :)
[11:07] <antisepticx> you could've went to the ubuntu package site
[11:07] <cleo> adamh: uhm ;)
[11:08] <antisepticx> then do some dpkg -i
[11:08] <cleo> adamh: It does not happen If I print from another linux box ...
[11:08] <C-O-L-T> somebody can help me in installing ww2d program like google earth http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[11:08] <meshe> C-O-L-T: read the instructions the site you are quoting, they explain it there: http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Download
[11:09] <antisepticx> lol
[11:09] <C-O-L-T> meshe: i am using linux for 3 months, i simpy can not make anything, just with adept
[11:09] <C-O-L-T> meshe: :))
[11:09] <C-O-L-T> meshe: i need a guide
[11:09] <antisepticx> humm
[11:10] <antisepticx> google
[11:10] <meshe> you dont' need to make anything, you need to download the files, and unzip them... read the page i just quoted
[11:10] <antisepticx> readme
[11:10] <C-O-L-T> meshe: i will try it
[11:10] <antisepticx> install
[11:10] <IdleOne> !tell mesh about read
[11:10] <IdleOne> !tell meshe  about read
[11:11] <BearHunter> I am trying to dual boot ubuntu with windows and having a problem can someone help me?
[11:11] <thegladiator> can any one connect to www.kde-look.org ?
[11:11] <haasteem> hi, could anybody please tell how to change the keyboard layout when using blackbox?
[11:11] <antisepticx> any good dri/drm questions today
[11:12] <antisepticx> I hate those
[11:12] <haasteem> gnome-keyboard-properties doesn't work
[11:12] <BearHunter> i have windows installed on hda and are trying to install ubuntu on hdb
[11:12] <thegladiator> i wonder if its my browser settings , please can someone check the site is accepting conenctions ?
[11:12] <C-O-L-T> meshe: in case that i fail installing it please help me
[11:12] <nalioth> BearHunter: the grub needs to go on hda
[11:12] <C-O-L-T> meshe: i am following the instructions now :)
[11:13] <sobersabre> hi guys. does anybody know who's in charge of gdb on breezy for amd64 ?
[11:13] <IdleOne> thegladiator>  nope
[11:13] <jadewolf> using cdrecord how would I burn this.iso to a cdr on /dev/hdd?
[11:13] <BearHunter> nalioth: how do i do that?
[11:13] <Kindred> thegladiator, not for me
[11:13] <nickrud> thegladiator, another no
[11:13] <antisepticx> wow
[11:13] <thegladiator> many thanks :-) so it is the site
[11:13] <haasteem> thegladiator: same here
[11:13] <erez> yo
[11:13] <jadewolf> kameron: are you still here?
[11:13] <nalioth> BearHunter: when it asks where to install grub, tell it hda
[11:13] <BearHunter> its not asking me that yet . . .
[11:13] <kameron> jadewold: yes, i was out for a sec, now back in,.
[11:14] <jadewolf> kameron: using cdrecord how would I burn this.iso to a cdr on /dev/hdd?
[11:14] <zcat[1] > jadewolf: sudo cdrecord speed=16 -v -dao --eject dev=/dev/hdd this.iso
[11:14] <BearHunter> i am on the partition disks screen
[11:14] <sobersabre> guys how do I resolve responsibility chain of package maintainers ?
[11:14] <BearHunter> and i cannot go any further
[11:14] <nickrud> sobersabre, you get the signing key off of a pgp server
[11:15] <kameron> jadewolf: cdrecord dev=0,0,0 filename.iso
[11:15] <antisepticx> anyone boot an iso off of a hardrive ?
[11:15] <nickrud> sobersabre, as best as I can read that question, that is
[11:15] <Nafallo> sobersabre: we don't have maintainership in Ubuntu, so all core-devs are responsible for that package...
[11:15] <antisepticx> not a live cd
[11:15] <BearHunter> it is saying that "no root file system is defined"
[11:15] <nalioth> BearHunter: you need to assign a partition the '/' symbol
[11:15] <antisepticx> /dev/hdb
[11:15] <erUSUL> sobersabre, enter a bug report in bugzilla for the package
[11:15] <nalioth> see y'all later
[11:16] <BearHunter> which partition and how do i do that?
[11:16] <jadewolf> kameron: thanks its burning now, gonna install it soon as its done :)
[11:16] <kameron> jadewolf: :D
[11:16] <kameron> jadewolf: breezy is sooo nice, i can't wait for dapper
[11:16] <antisepticx> hda1
[11:16] <antisepticx> hda2
[11:16] <antisepticx> hda3
[11:17] <antisepticx> not hda2 or 5
[11:17] <antisepticx> maybe
[11:17] <CodenameKT> dapper is broken I hate ubuntu
[11:17] <antisepticx> need more info "jonny5"
[11:17] <antisepticx> why
[11:18] <nickrud> lol, a troll one can love :)
[11:18] <guest666> hmmm tcl is given me problems now :/
[11:18] <CodenameKT> I'm just joking
[11:18] <BearHunter> nalioth: I cannot see where I assign the '/' symbol
[11:18] <Nafallo> CodenameKT: well, dapper is not stable. and I haven't seen it broken, if it is; could you please file a bug? :-)
[11:18] <CodenameKT> it is broken but i don't hate
[11:18] <CodenameKT> that is such a strong word
[11:18] <Kindred> BearHunter, for mount point on one of the partitions
[11:18] <noirequus> BearHunter: in the partitioning step, you need to go over each partition and enter all the required info
[11:18] <Nafallo> agreed. but it is not broken for me :-P
[11:19] <noirequus> BearHunter: perhaps it'd be easier to just make some free space and let linux 'use free space on partition'
[11:19] <CodenameKT> Nafallo: Does the network setup properly for u?
[11:19] <BearHunter> i am using a separate drive for ubuntu
[11:19] <antisepticx> wanna see a broken dist. lookup Evil Entity
[11:19] <sorush20> guys where can I get this file libqt3c102-mt?
[11:19] <CodenameKT> Nafallo: Or does your network connections automatically configure correctly
[11:19] <antisepticx> Broken from the start
[11:19] <Nafallo> CodenameKT: I have network-manager installed, so yes. :-)
[11:20] <telkus> algun latino
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Nafallo, im betting its broken for you you just dont know it yet :)
[11:20] <noirequus> telkus: que idioma ?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Nafallo, install anjuta :))
[11:20] <antisepticx> :)
[11:20] <telkus> espaol
[11:20] <gnomefreak> !es
[11:20] <noirequus> !es
[11:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:20] <Nafallo> CodenameKT: it is known however and the quick workaround is to add auto-lines to /etc/network/interfaces :-)
[11:21] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: I wouldn't use it even if it was installed ;-)
[11:21] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:21] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: what's up with it? :-)
[11:21] <gnomefreak> its broken
[11:21] <jadewolf> kameron: is there anything special I should do on install since I hae a 6600 GT?
[11:21] <Di42lo> is there another open-source gui ftp program for gnome except gftp ?
[11:21] <Belgain> quick question which has been bugging me, would be grateful if someone could help me out.... how do i disable autostarting of RAID arrays on boot?
[11:21] <CodenameKT> Nafallo: oh ok. It's just I can fix every problem I get on linux as long as I have an internet connection. but without one i am dead in the water like 90% of the time
[11:21] <gnomefreak> theres a patched version of it but cant compile it
[11:21] <nickrud> sorush20, that qt package is very old; you need to find something that depends on a qt package that is more recent
[11:21] <blood> when i try to connect to my other computer it wants me to log in so i put my pw in and it keeps asking me to do it over any1 help me?
[11:21] <Belgain> i think they get autostarted by the kernel rather than by mdadm...
[11:22] <kameron> jadewolf: not really. once you get the system installed, assuming X works properly, install the nvidia-glx package, and you're laughing.
[11:22] <jadewolf> okay
[11:22] <kemik> Di42lo:  there are no really good ftp clients for linux afaik
[11:22] <telkus> algien que me ayude con asterisk
[11:22] <antisepticx> anybody have high power 3d without an nv or ati
[11:22] <nickrud> Di42lo, not that I know of
[11:22] <CodenameKT> kemik: What!?
[11:22] <kameron> jadewolf: or giggling like a school girl, whatever you prefer really
[11:22] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: well. WHAT is broken? :-)
[11:22] <sorush20> nickrud: the new .deb package for linux skype2 needs that?
[11:22] <kemik> Di42lo:  gftp is what ppl usually refer to.. but i dont like it ;)
[11:22] <haasteem> hi, could anybody please tell how to change the keyboard layout when using blackbox?
[11:22] <zcat[1] > kameron: umm and reconfigure X to use nvidia instead of nv
[11:22] <gnomefreak> i heard they fixed the OOo problem not overwrting the lang. file
[11:22] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: bugreport?
[11:22] <BearHunter> OK i think i got it . . . I had to select the LVM option correct?
[11:22] <Kindred> gftp is a bit buggy.
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Nafallo, yes there is
[11:22] <antisepticx> I mean hardware
[11:22] <nickrud> sorush20, that's a package from Debian; take a look at what seveas has
[11:22] <kameron> zcat[1] : what configuration is needed?
[11:23] <Di42lo> anyways...what is the command to get full directroy with the terminal ftp command ?
[11:23] <nickrud> !seveas
[11:23] <ubotu> hmm... seveas is a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:23] <nickrud> heh, it exists :)
[11:23] <gnomefreak> Nafallo, the bug report says to install anjuta 1.2.4a but it doesnt compile right
[11:23] <Nafallo> damn! I thought Seveas was a person :-P
[11:23] <zcat[1] > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:23] <Seveas> Nafallo, I'm not :)
[11:23] <Nafallo> Seveas: :-)
[11:23] <nickrud> bots are :)
[11:24] <Seveas> !seveas =~ s/a semi/<reply> Seveas has a semi/
[11:24] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[11:24] <Seveas> !+seveas
[11:24] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:24] <gnomefreak> do they have a date for flight3?
[11:24] <Seveas> Nafallo, better?
[11:24] <antisepticx> anyone using irssi
[11:24] <Seveas> gnomefreak, not yet
[11:24] <Nafallo> Seveas: indeed :-)
[11:24] <Kovecses> irssi is cool
[11:24] <kameron> zcat[1] : for me, nvidia-glx enable was good enough.
[11:24] <zcat[1] > hmm.. ok
[11:24] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:25] <nickrud> Seveas, if you could be more clear that community includes universe & multiverse ...
[11:25] <gnomefreak> im assuming they fixed the locales issues?
[11:25] <sorush20> nickrud: the Seveas repositories
[11:25] <CodenameKT> antisepticx: I use bitchx it is like irssi
[11:25] <kameron> zcat[1] : maybe. try to put kameron in your messages so i actually find them :P
[11:26] <nickrud> absolut-damn-tutly
[11:26] <CodenameKT> Seveas: I never met a talking repository before
[11:26] <sobersabre> does anyone here use ubuntu on amd64 system ?
[11:26] <kameron> sobersabe: yes
[11:26] <sobersabre> kameron: have you tried to use GDB ?
[11:26] <Nafallo> sobersabre: yes.
[11:26] <kameron> sobersabe: what is that>?
[11:26] <Nafallo> kameron: gnu debugger :-)
[11:27] <zcat[1] > kameron: also when i updated, the last version of ubuntu was using the old nvidia packages.. they broke and I had to fix stuff up manually, so I'm not sure how much autoconfig the packages do when installed cleanly :)
[11:27] <antisepticx> Kovecses < anything special about it?
[11:27] <sobersabre> kameron: nevermind.
[11:27] <Kovecses> antisepticx, its non-gui
[11:27] <sobersabre> Nafallo: and YOU ? have you tried to use gdb ?
[11:27] <Kovecses> antisepticx, very light
[11:27] <kameron> sobersabre sorry, never used it
[11:27] <mwe> sobersabre: I think most folks with an amd64 processor are using the 32bit ubuntu
[11:27] <Kovecses> antisepticx, but i still use xchat
[11:27] <kameron> zcat[1] : it's amazing how well packages work when they install clean :P
[11:28] <sobersabre> kameron: I could've guessed that ; )
[11:28] <goog> how come i can't login to wiki.ubuntu.org with my newly created launchpad account?
[11:28] <Nafallo> sobersabre: I'm on dapper, but it worked in the breezy devel cycle :-)
[11:28] <Nafallo> mwe: no, we are not :-)
[11:28] <sobersabre> Nafallo: well it doesn't I've filed a bug... maybe I should try this Dapper... is it stable ?
[11:28] <Kovecses> ubuntu is sweet ... after using gentoo for so long its so nice that packages are installed so quickly
[11:28] <mwe> Nafallo: are you most amd64 users?
[11:29] <kameron> mwe: i used amd64 for a day, then switched
[11:29] <Nafallo> sobersabre: no. what bugnumber is that? :-)
[11:29] <CodenameKT> Kovecses: nice, a gentoo user who switched
[11:29] <antisepticx> Kovecses > kewl
[11:29] <mwe> kameron: yeah
[11:29] <Nafallo> mwe: nope, but everyone I talked to with amd64 have used ubuntu for their arch :-)
[11:29] <Kovecses> CodenameKT, your a former gentooer
[11:29] <sobersabre> Nafallo: I cannot remember by heart... need to ... skim the bookmarks...
[11:29] <kameron> Nafallo: talk to me
[11:29] <mwe> Nafallo: I challenge you to view a flash or java page in 64bit ubuntu
[11:29] <AstralJava> Hi all, anyone in who's had success in loading smsc-ircc2 module, for IrDA connections?
[11:29] <sobersabre> Nafallo: actually it is not much of a bug: the gdb simply dies upon usage with segfault.
[11:29] <Nafallo> kameron: about? :-)
[11:30] <CodenameKT> Kovecses: I have tried everything under the stars since I started the linux ride in 1999
[11:30] <Kovecses> CodenameKT, yeah me too
[11:30] <Nafallo> mwe: java works fine, flash is not ubuntus fault :-)
[11:30] <mwe> Nafallo: to my knowledge there is no working java plugin
[11:30] <kameron> Nafallo: i was just joking.. "everyone I talked to with amd64 have used ubuntu for their arch"
[11:30] <Nafallo> sobersabre: does it work on i386? :-)
[11:30] <CodenameKT> mwe: huh?
[11:30] <sobersabre> Nafallo: are you kidding?!?!?!?!? :)
[11:30] <mwe> CodenameKT: for 64bit
[11:30] <CodenameKT> mwe: oh yeah yeah ok nm
[11:31] <Mabus06> I have a cd image file (CDI) that is 775MB... but it's supposed to fit on a 700MB cd... am I missing something?
[11:31] <antisepticx> ubuntu is just like any other deb dist
[11:31] <CodenameKT> Mabus06: they tricked you
[11:31] <Nafallo> mwe: apt-cache search blackdown :-) it's in multiverse
[11:31] <gnomefreak> antisepticx, its nothing like sarge :)
[11:31] <goog> anyone know why i can't login to wiki.ubuntu.org ? i created a launchpad account...
[11:31] <sobersabre> antisepticx: I disagree - no debian release would've come without a working debugger!
[11:31] <nase> does ubuntu have video 4 linux built in the kernel?
[11:32] <sobersabre> nase: no. as module.
[11:32] <kameron> nase: no
[11:32] <mwe> Nafallo: I didn't say it's ubuntus fault. there is simply just to much that doesn't work or only works half for my taste. but that's just me
[11:32] <sobersabre> nase: do you know the diff ?
[11:32] <nase> i just want it so i can work my webcam :/
[11:32] <mwe> Nafallo: blackdown has a browser plugin that works on 64bit ubuntu? I think not
[11:32] <sobersabre> Nafallo: but it's ubuntu's fault I don't have a debugger... isn't it ?
[11:32] <kameron> Nafallo: if i wasn't using ubuntu as a desktop system, i'd go with the proper version
[11:32] <antisepticx> well you could probably find a way to incorp anything ubuntu has or dosn't have in or out of it
[11:32] <gnomefreak> hey atleast you get a firewall with the kernel what want everything in kernel lol :) j/k
[11:33] <F4k3> hi
[11:33] <antisepticx> maybe not the debug
[11:33] <sobersabre> mwe: there is a 64bit plugin. it  is not in the latest JRE though...
[11:33] <mwe> sobersabre: blackdown?
[11:33] <sobersabre> I will go back to the roots: Debian.
[11:33] <guest666> how do i tell apt not to use cdrom as  install source
[11:33] <F4k3> Got one question. Is there anyway to install Ubuntu about network ??
[11:33] <sobersabre> mwe: Sun Microsystems.
[11:33] <Mabus06> CodenameKT, but I have several CDI files and they're all larger than 700MB... ?
[11:33] <sobersabre> use java.sun.com
[11:33] <Kovecses> debian is cool for some things... but for a desktop system ubuntu is key
[11:33] <antisepticx> just depends how bored you are
[11:33] <gnomefreak> put a # infront of the cdrom repo
[11:33] <mwe> sobersabre: what version?
[11:34] <guest666> where gnomefreak
[11:34] <Berg> hi
[11:34] <Berg> I am back
[11:34] <F4k3> hi
[11:34] <antisepticx> for a quick setup ubuntu is nice
[11:34] <sobersabre> 1.4.x I don't remember exactly. browse the freaking site.
[11:34] <antisepticx> ndiswrapper
[11:34] <Berg> I have both OS's now
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell guest666 about sources
[11:34] <Nafallo> sobersabre: you have a debugger. it might now work on everything though. that's not ubuntus fault in general. depends on what caused the "bug" :-)
[11:34] <Berg> but I have a probles
[11:34] <Berg> problem
[11:34] <Berg> -_-
[11:34] <gnomefreak> bot/both
[11:34] <F4k3> I have a notebook without cdrom drives and wanna install ubuntu about network. Is that possible ???
[11:34] <CodenameKT> Mabus06: then logic permits us to think that maybe the people making these images know that u have a 700mb disk and made it accordingly. I don't believe u will have a problem burning. I don't know the CDI format so It could be a couple mb is bloat and won't even be burned to the cd
[11:35] <Nafallo> mwe: yes, IIRC you can use blackdown with firefox. there is a guide on the wiki... :-)
[11:35] <sobersabre> erUSUL: isn't farewell = goodbye ?
[11:35] <Kovecses> gnomefreak, plus ubuntu had the latest gnome :)
[11:35] <guest666> well its not in the sources.list file
[11:35] <antisepticx> pcx
[11:35] <Berg> it seems that when I set the partition space I made  ubuntu 46GB while XP is now only 10GB....how can I change that?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Kovecses, that too :)
[11:35] <bart_> thos anyone know how to install the ircspy dcc manager
[11:35] <Berg> w/o deleting windows
[11:35] <mwe> well there are to many problems also like bad multimedia performance in 64bit ubuntu for my taste
[11:35] <nickrud> ahuman01, experimental, I hardly new ye
[11:35] <erUSUL> sobersabre, you said that you are going to go back to debian ;)
[11:35] <bart_> hi guys
[11:35] <gnomefreak> guest666, did you run sudo apt-get update after changing the source.list file?
[11:35] <nickrud> darn
[11:35] <mwe> dvds skippign etc
[11:35] <sobersabre> erUSUL: only on 64bit machine.
[11:36] <Berg> is there a way to delete the ubuntu partition w/o deleting XP?
[11:36] <erUSUL> sobersabre, good to know XD
[11:36] <kameron> Berg: yes
[11:36] <Berg> how?
[11:36] <Kovecses> Berg, qparted
[11:36] <nickrud> Berg, sure
[11:36] <Nafallo> mwe: what app are you using? it have always worked here with totem-xine since warty :-=
[11:36] <Nafallo> :-)
[11:36] <guest666> yes gnomefreak, but it sitll asks
[11:36] <Aven> hey
[11:36] <erUSUL> Berg, deleting the ubuntu partition only ;)
[11:36] <guest666> thee's nothing in that .list file about cdrom
[11:36] <Berg> yah
[11:37] <Kovecses> guest666, paste you sources.list in the pastebin
[11:37] <nickrud> Berg, even windows partititioners can blow away an ubuntu partition
[11:37] <Aven> when people ssh, how can I change the text that it says after logging in?
[11:37] <haasteem> hi, could anybody please tell how to change the keyboard layout when using blackbox?
[11:37] <Berg> I have given up on linux with this computers
[11:37] <gnomefreak> guest666, its not commented out than paste you /etc/apt/source.list file to pastebin please
[11:37] <meshe> isn't that the wrong way? shouldn't you be deleting windows?
[11:37] <Berg> I still cant change the resoilution
[11:37] <Berg> resolution
[11:37] <meshe> *grins*
[11:37] <erUSUL> Aven, /etc/motd
[11:37] <guest666> n.m gnomefreak, it ws the first line, i didnt see it
[11:37] <mwe> Nafallo: everyone I tried. I'm glad it works for you though. I hear many people complaining about various issues on the 64bit version. I'm glad it works for someone
[11:37] <Aven> erUSUL: ah thanks
[11:37] <nickrud> Berg, have you tried looking at the following yet:
[11:37] <nickrud> !fixres
[11:37] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:37] <Berg> yes
[11:37] <Kovecses> Berg, installl drivers ... change resolution
[11:38] <antisepticx> haasteem you can change it using xf86config
[11:38] <Berg> fine
[11:38] <Kovecses> Berg, what video card are you using
[11:38] <nickrud> ok, then, if it's not a voodoo3, or a cheaper nvidia, I'll shut up.
[11:38] <IrIT> Argh, just can't get psybnc compiled :-/
[11:38] <Berg> DUNNO
[11:38] <Kovecses> guest666, have you pasted?
[11:38] <antisepticx> it would be easier to do it with a text editor
[11:38] <Berg> I went through this yesterday with NO success
[11:38] <mwe> Berg: it's intel exreme
[11:38] <Nafallo> mwe: I've never had issues I haven't managed to fix/get fixed :-)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Kovecses, he found it
[11:38] <Berg> see he knows
[11:39] <Nafallo> but that's just me ;-)
[11:39] <MrPockets> Ubuntu doesnt offer any easy-install or preinstalled Ipod interphase does it?
[11:39] <mwe> Nafallo: great for you
[11:39] <Kovecses> lol....cool
[11:39] <Berg> how do I delete a partition?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> !ipod
[11:39] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[11:39] <MrPockets> Berg,  use Partition majic, or Fdisk
[11:39] <mwe> Nafallo: I think it was too much of a hassle
[11:39] <Berg> ?
[11:39] <haasteem> antisepticx: ok, where can i find that program (if i installed it, that is)?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> locate <programname>
[11:39] <MrPockets> magic*
[11:39] <antisepticx> your using ubuntu right?
[11:39] <haasteem> yes
[11:39] <Nafallo> mwe: well, that's what great with free software. you can do what you want with it :-).
[11:40] <inventor_> can someone help me with an ubuntu install on a compaq box w/ scsi drive? getting an error after says 'loading kernel...' that it couldn't open the cdrom?
[11:40] <sorush20> I keep getting this error when I try to add the seves gpg key to the apt directory http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6770
[11:40] <mwe> Nafallo: yeah
[11:40] <ksmurf> anyone have dapper installed and having issues with the gnome-panel menu?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> ksmurf, sudo apt-get install menu
[11:40] <gnomefreak> it will fix it
[11:40] <kameron> Berg: fdisk is a part of DOS, you can wipe our partitions and do all sorts of things with it, if you boot to it on a floppy or cdrom. or you can use partition magic, a product from Symantec i think, and run it from windows.
[11:40] <inventor_> 'unable to find group ubuntu' among other errors..
[11:40] <antisepticx> type sudo gedit in a term
[11:40] <Kovecses> oh what a glorious dayayay
[11:40] <mwe> Nafallo: I'd love to use the 64bit version. I think I'll wait a year so until it matures a bit more though
[11:41] <Berg> well does anyone have instructions on how to do it for free w/o software
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ksmurf, i dont know why the gnome menu gets messed up after kubuntu-desktop install
[11:41] <kameron> Berg: yes, i can guide you
[11:41] <nickrud> MrPockets, if you could keep at gnomefreak about ipods ...
[11:41] <holy_cow> http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2006010701126NWEV  <-- i hope google posts this, i wanna see the robin williams parts
[11:41] <SealyDave> erUSUL: thanks for the info on java, I got it runnning, thanks!
[11:41] <gnomefreak> re-installing menu fixes it though
[11:41] <haasteem> antispeticx: ok
[11:41] <Nafallo> mwe: i.e. the lazy people at Macromedia ports flash to 64-bit? ;-)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> lol nickrud
[11:41] <inventor_> can anyone help with a scsi install?
[11:41] <mwe> Nafallo: that would help
[11:41] <erUSUL> SealyDave, no problem
[11:41] <MrPockets> nickrud, hmm?
[11:41] <mwe> Nafallo: I'm not blaming ubuntu
[11:42] <Nafallo> mwe: or hopefully the free flash-projects will do it first :-). well, that's good :-).
[11:42] <nickrud> MrPockets, it's sort of a joke, but gnomefreak has an ipod :)
[11:42] <Berg> Kameron I have messaged you privately
[11:42] <haasteem> antispeticx: what next?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> MrPockets, did you read the post about ipod before?
[11:42] <Kindred> since when was flash ever desireable.. :\
[11:42] <ksmurf> gnome freak Thanks ......
[11:42] <kameron> Berg: messages are disabled from unidentified users on FreeNode, i did not recieve it
[11:42] <Berg> oops
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ksmurf, yw
[11:42] <Berg> then join #berg
[11:42] <MrPockets> yeah but all that shits pretty over my head
[11:42] <Nafallo> Kindred: agreed :-)
[11:43] <mwe> Nafallo: the free flash project has been around for ages. but hoping wont hurt anyone ...
[11:43] <antisepticx> haas you still needing help
[11:43] <ksmurf> gnome freak Thanks ...... but it didn't help....  My app menu portion is still screwed
[11:43] <kameron> Berg: just join this channel #cheese
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ksmurf, restart x
[11:43] <haasteem> antispeticx: yes please
[11:43] <Nafallo> mwe: there are several if I understood correctly :-). one of them will probably succeed soon ;-)
[11:43] <gnomefreak> MrPockets, i havent looked at it yet bit giv eme a few ill try it :(
[11:44] <IrIT> argh, bliver sindsyg af psybnc
[11:44] <mwe> Nafallo: let's cross fingers
[11:44] <MrPockets> thank you much
[11:44] <SealyDave> same kinda deal with flash install?
[11:44] <IrIT> oops, sorry. Wrong channe
[11:44] <IrIT> channel*
[11:44] <antisepticx> you'll need to browse to you x configuration file
[11:44] <haasteem> antispeticx: i opened gedit as root
[11:44] <gnomefreak> btw can we go with perky penguin for 6.10 pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sorry forgot to ask yesterday i liked that one best :)
[11:44] <antisepticx> located /etc/x11
[11:45] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: well. that's sabdfl to decide. but it is very unlikely :-)
[11:45] <IrIT> http://pastebin.com/495579 <-- when i try to compile psybnc?
[11:45] <made> hello all
[11:45] <mwe> Nafallo: flash is great. I wish it was an open standard and the tools open source as well :)
[11:45] <haasteem> antispeticx: ok
[11:46] <Nafallo> gnomefreak: he said he will use alphabetic order, so next will probably be E something :-)
[11:46] <gnomefreak> i figured as much i was just looking through it last night and liked that one :)
[11:46] <Nafallo> mwe: I would rather see SVG come through :-).
[11:46] <made> grub isn't able to see my ntfs hda on boot
[11:46] <haasteem> antispeticx: xorg.conf?
[11:46] <antisepticx> yep
[11:46] <mwe> Nafallo: I don't know that from anything but some desktop icons :|
[11:47] <guest666> heh i cant get eggdrop to compile, stupid tcl now :I
[11:47] <haasteem> antispeticx: ok, i opened it
[11:47] <antisepticx> keboard options should be under Input Device
[11:47] <Kovecses> is gnome-look down?
[11:47] <Nafallo> mwe: there is a demo somewhere on the web where you can play tetris :-)
[11:47] <antisepticx> for your keyboard
[11:47] <Psychaos> can someone help me, i can't update thunderbird on hoary from 1.0.2 to 1.0.7 because of a 'bad header line'.
[11:47] <mwe> Nafallo: great
[11:48] <Nafallo> mwe: it will totally be able to kill flash in the future ;-)
[11:48] <haasteem> antispeticx: right, i found it
[11:48] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrr why do they say banshee is in deb and all they give you is tar:( but the deb is in repos :)
[11:48] <made> !ntfs
[11:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[11:48] <Mabus06> where do you find wine's "c" drive?
[11:48] <mwe> Nafallo: I free alternative would be great. and if it's better even ...
[11:48] <haasteem> antispeticx: so there i just change to the layout i want and that's all?
[11:49] <antisepticx> what layout are you looking for
[11:49] <Seveas> Mabus06, ~/.wine/C_drive/ iirc
[11:49] <haasteem> antispeticx: canadian french
[11:49] <Nafallo> mwe: the free alternatives usually is :-)
[11:49] <antisepticx> you'll have to save it
[11:49] <meshe> i think it's ~/.wine/drive_c/
[11:49] <haasteem> antispeticx: right, that's obvious :)
[11:49] <ace> so like...im on 5.04 ...do i have to download and install another .iso to upgrade to 5.10 or is there some other way?
[11:49] <gnomefreak> he left :(
[11:49] <gnomefreak> oh well
[11:50] <erUSUL> !breezy
[11:50] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:50] <ace> thanks
[11:50] <mwe> Nafallo: I found the tetris svg game. when the game ended it said "GAM" lol. but I see the potetial
[11:50] <Nafallo> :-)
[11:51] <Kovecses> gnometris... comes with ubuntu
[11:51] <ksmurf> gnomefreak that didn't help... :( oh well.  I guess that development
[11:51] <ace> im so sexci
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ksmurf, the applications part of menu is closing?
[11:51] <mwe> Kovecses: yeah. we were discussing svg as an alternative to flash though
[11:51] <made> nvm.. I figured it out myself.. TTYL
[11:52] <ksmurf> gnomefreak ... more like dissappearing... stays up for less than a second
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ksmurf, yes that is what fixed mine
[11:52] <ace> holy moly there is a lot of people in here..is this the most populated linux distro channel on this server?
[11:52] <haasteem> antispeticx: so for xkblayout i just change from us to canadian french i guess?
[11:52] <C-O-L-T> who is also interested in google earth http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[11:52] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[11:52] <ksmurf> gnome-panel-control --main-menu does the same ... it appears and the dissappears right away
[11:52] <nickrud> ace, who cares about most populated, this channel is about most useful
[11:53] <Pygi> freaky: I've responded on tour mail
[11:53] <C-O-L-T> who is also interested in google earth http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[11:53] <ace> nickrud, dont be an asshole
[11:53] <gnomefreak> Pygi, ok ill look in a few trying to get banshee
[11:53] <Seveas> ace: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[11:53] <nickrud> ace, sorry, I'm not. But, I've been out in that space now and then.
[11:53] <ace> Seveas, i'll look at it in a minute
[11:53] <Pygi> freaky: kk
[11:53] <ace> eh?
[11:54] <Seveas> ace, btw: #debian and #gentoo are bigger :)
[11:54] <ace> :(
[11:54] <Pygi> ace: btw. you can get 10000 people on a channel, but you cant get so much usefull people as here :)
[11:54] <Kovecses> Seveas, you mean bigger aholes?
[11:54] <thestagemanager> Anyone out there think they can tackle a Calendar printing question?
[11:55] <ace> i was just wondering
[11:55] <antisepticx> one sec
[11:55] <ace> i dont care how useful it is
[11:55] <Pygi> Kovecses: calm down
[11:55] <Pygi> ace: huh, then don't care....
[11:55] <Kovecses> Pygi, what?... i didnt do anything
[11:55] <haasteem> ok
[11:55] <Seveas> Kovecses, no bigger channels :)
[11:55] <Kovecses> Seveas, ahh
[11:56] <Seveas> Kovecses, actually, at least for #debian your statement also holds :)
[11:56] <Kovecses> Seveas, yeah #debian is pretty bad
[11:57] <sobersabre> guys... whoever uses ubuntu on an amd64 in 32 mode.... what do you gain except soft. compatibility with 32 apps ? isn't it a waste ?
[11:57] <kameron> ace: gentoo has like 30% more people than here. but it also has like 10 times the suck.
[11:57] <antisepticx> i think ca is the layout you want
[11:57] <ace> OKAY
[11:57] <ace> jeez
[11:57] <Seveas> sobersabre, you hit the point: compatibility with 32bit only proprietary crap
[11:57] <meshe> lol
[11:57] <Pygi> kameron: heh, maybe true... but you can't actually judge all people by 1 :P
[11:57] <ace> you wont shut up about it
[11:57] <Pygi> ace: no :)
[11:58] <haasteem> antispeticx: let me try
[11:58] <Seveas> ace, relax dude, it's saturday night :)
[11:58] <kameron> Pygi: i don't actually know anyone who uses gentoo, or is in that channel. i was just being silly.
[11:58] <Kovecses> kameron, 10 times the suck?
[11:58] <Seveas> grab a beer or something :)
[11:58] <kameron> Kovecses: i don't know, nevermind :P
[11:58] <Kovecses> gentoo is great
[11:58] <Pygi> kameron: yes, I understood that :P
[11:58] <haasteem> antispeticx: so i saved it and then i guess i do a restart?
[11:58] <Pygi> Seveas, can I ask you for a little favor pls?
[11:58] <Seveas> Pygi, that depends on the favor
[11:59] <Pygi> well, you would need to comment on one thingy
[11:59] <Pygi> I need it for the app I am building
[11:59] <antisepticx> yep give it a shot
[11:59] <Seveas> Pygi, -> #ubuntu-offtopic or private chat then :)
[11:59] <Pygi> yes,I'll send you a pm
[11:59] <Kovecses> i was on gentoo today... then after watching dvdrip compile for about and hour.. and still wasnt done.. i needed a change